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Jack Johnson, the first Black world heavyweight champion, and Jim Jeffries, the so-called "Great White Hope", slugged it out in Reno, Nevada on 4th July, 1910 - in one of the most explosive sporting events in American sports history. Literally billed as a battle for racial supremacy, the fight attracted 20,000 paying fans - and sparked the biggest race riots in the United States until the death of Martin Luther King, Jr. Jeffries came out of retirement for a fat paycheck. Johnson danced circles around him, forcing his corner to throw in the towel by round 15. To many white Americans, this wasn't just a loss; it was an existential meltdown in boxing gloves. In this episode, Arion, Rebecca and Olly explain how Johnson's brashness and defiance made him a marked man; explore how his triumph resonated in Black America, just one generation after emancipation; and reveal what Sylvester Stallone contributed to his place in the history books... Further Reading: • ‘Introduction - Jack Johnson vs. James Jeffries: Topics in Chronicling America' (Library of Congress): https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-johnson-vs-jeffries • ‘Tex Rickard and the Making of Modern Sports' (We're History, 2015): https://werehistory.org/tex-rickard/ • ‘Jack Johnson Vs. James J Jeffries (July 4th, 1910): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esnq-orAvo8&t=14s Love the show? Support us! Join
Ryan Isaac of Dentist Advisors returns to continue his discussion with Kiera about the future of dentistry, including options aside from DSOs. The question a practice owner should ask themself, Kiera and Ryan say, is what that individual wants out of their life — then consider the best platform to get you there. Episode resources: Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Transcript: Kiera Dent (00:00) Hello, Dental A Team listeners, this is Kiera, and this is going to be part two of mine and Ryan Isaac's conversation where we're digging into DSOs to sell to not to sell, all of that. And I truly am so excited for you guys here, part two. And as always, thanks for listening. I'll catch you next time on the Dental A Team Podcast. Kiera Dent (00:17) why don't we take a pause and just think of like, what's the future of dentistry as now the future pioneers of dentistry? And what are we going to do to our profession? Yes, there's top dollar. Yes, there's things about it, but is there a way to influence? and make sure that the integrity of dentistry can maintain long-term. I have no answer to that, but again, this is Kiera Dent sitting on my podcast where I think that there is a voice and an influence and like on Dentist Advisors podcast, is there a way that we can influence our industry in ways that will protect and still pay out? Because I'm like, even if you don't get the 10X EBITDA, you still can get a freaking great payout if you do your life right to where you can be financially set up. Ryan Isaac (00:33) Mm-hmm. ⁓ Kiera Dent (00:58) still be able to sell your practice, not have to sell it in ways that could potentially hurt the industry. I'm not saying one's the right answer or the wrong answer. There's no judgment on my side. It's just, let's maybe think and consider how it could influence. Can we get people that could be private equity higher up that could help protect it? Those are things that, and again, I'm just Kiera Dent here in Reno, Nevada. Ryan Isaac (01:03) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Same, okay. Okay. Yes. No, these are the questions. You're totally influential. I think it's just in the opposite direction. ⁓ I don't think we can influence private equity. Private equity is ruthless in every industry. They don't. It feels dirty. It feels dirty. And I have a question for you, but I just want to say really fast. ⁓ I do feel like, yes. Kiera Dent (01:30) It's dirty. It's dirty. Is there a way though, Brian, you don't finance better than me. Is there a way that there could become dentists that could become in private equity where they own it? Because once you, there's no way to insulate, you don't think. Because once you get to that level, you just, I mean, I've had. Ryan Isaac (01:44) Yeah, but they'll do the same thing. I mean, they'll want the same thing. Now, money's money. It's why capitalism runs the world. mean, that's why, you know, it's like why it influences politics and money and business runs the world, you know? ⁓ Okay, hold on. There's so many good things here. Number one would be not every group will be a DSO, private equity backed DSO. And you know, many, many ⁓ clients and just dentists around the country who will end up being owners of Kiera Dent (02:05) Okay. Ryan Isaac (02:19) 20, 50, 100 group practices that will stay privately held and ran by owner doctors. That will be a chunk of this ⁓ group practice ⁓ takeover. So in that space, the influence can still be huge. ⁓ I think the chance to influence the integrity of private practice is in those who don't sell to DSOs. I think it's in the industry, educated in influencing the industry for people who aren't going to sell and who are going to maintain control. Now, I do think that in the future, more and more dentists will be in a group. ⁓ are probably, yeah, be fewer and I can see why it would make sense to do that. There would probably be fewer and fewer people with just solo doc, solo location practices. know, some towns and rural places, that would be hard to do. Kiera Dent (02:47) Mm-hmm. I do too. Ryan Isaac (03:15) So I think you're Dorothy, is that what you said? I'm Dorothy. I think that is possible, not with private equity, but with still the owner doctors that still exist and the group practices that are ran by dentists, not private equity back. I think the influence is still gonna be, I mean, if you took the projections of what will stay private, Kiera Dent (03:20) Yeah, hi. I agree. Ryan Isaac (03:40) and then the chunk of the group stuff that'll be non DSO non-corporate, that's still got to be 40, 50 % of the industry eventually. Kiera Dent (03:49) I would think so. I mean, look at it right now. There's corporate dentistry within. And again, there's nothing wrong with any, because I have clients that are in corporate dentistry that run their practices like private. They take care of their teams. So it's one of those things I still think, like even if you are, and that's another way that we can influence this, if you are part of a private equity-backed DSO, you can still influence your practice. You're still the dentist working in the practice. You can still run culture. You can still run change. Ryan Isaac (03:59) Totally. Absolutely. Yes. and hit it. Kiera Dent (04:16) ⁓ I know the doctors I have, they're part of a very large group corporate and things that we have done together, like I work with them, they're my only corporate practice that I work with, but we have literally influenced the top tier CEO. They've asked what these offices are doing differently. They're taking things that I've helped bring into the practice and they've asked like, what's changed in your practice? Like we hired this girl who teaches us to run it like private practice. Their culture's incredible. We're even right now petitioning up to the top people because they're writing off things that you can actually bill out to insurance that they're making them write off when it's like, actually, no, we can bill it as a non covered service and actually have the patients cover. So I'm like, I do still think whether you're in private equity, but I think you've got to be a strong enough doctor where you advocate for the rights of your patients and the rights of your practice. And I'm super proud of my client who does this because her and her husband, they go to bat and they're like, they write some pretty direct emails to the CEO of this and say like, hey, and they're a big enough force. Cause I mean, Ryan Isaac (04:55) Mm. Yes. huh. Kiera Dent (05:15) They're the top tier practice in their area. have them making like, we are adding multiple millions to their offices every single year. But I'm like, I think that's also how dentists, even if you're in private equity, even if you're in group practices, I think at the end of the day, are clinicians and clinic, like you are, you are the product. And I think that they have, I think dentists have more say than they might realize that they do to influence the industry and keep it more positive and more ethical than it could be otherwise. Ryan Isaac (05:38) Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree with that. We all know people who are in those group models that are still running like amazing, almost privately held practices. The other thing that's interesting that's different than medical, because it always gets compared to the medical field consolidation that happened, is medicine has a distinct difference and advantage in that they have hospital systems where gigantic campuses where they can house hundreds of doctors in one place, right? It's just not that's not a thing in dentistry, which I think will will force it to stay a little unique, different than medical, because you can never have a giant campus building with, you know, 400 dentists. Yeah, like 500. I mean, I don't know. I guess never say never some some group might invent that and you know, like the dental campus of the city. I don't know. Yes, it's possible. But it seems a lot less likely. Yeah. Kiera Dent (06:18) Mm-hmm. 500 off, you imagine? Say hi. I mean, dental schools have a lot, but I'm like, okay, I think the piece that would be really hard is to justify 500 beds, like 500 ops. You've got your hygiene that's cranking. So you gotta have, in a 500 bed, would need, like, we can only see 500 patients a day. so you can only see if it's 500 a day, that's how many patients you could actually see. I don't think that would be a full city, and we're basically taking over whole city. Ryan Isaac (06:55) Yeah. No. Yeah. Kiera Dent (07:03) And then you might not be pulling out that much dentistry outside of all of that to be able to fill that many doctors in their schedules. Cause so much of it's hygiene run, it's like a two to one ratio that I think that would be the zone. ⁓ Ryan Isaac (07:07) No. I love this analysis. Yeah, I couldn't go that far, but there you go. That's exactly right. So I do think it'll stay different enough in nature because of that. ⁓ And yeah, I, to go back to the, love your question. We've been kicking this around a lot in dentists advisors and I want to reiterate the same thing. There's no judgment here. There's no right or wrong. For some people, it's absolutely the best decision to exit with the DSO and just find the right one. Take your time. ⁓ Kiera Dent (07:19) There you go. I agree. Ryan Isaac (07:43) to go through the deals with someone who really knows what deals look like, not just a friend or a CPA unless that CPA is looking at hundreds of deals. Call Brandon, right? Kiera Dent (07:51) Seriously, I'm like, why? He's got like every flavor of ice cream available of DSOs for you. And like, what are your goals with your financial advisor? What do you need to retire? And then you make sure that the deal is going to actually get you that because like you said, Ryan, it's your greatest asset. And that's where to me, it breaks my heart when people do this. And I was actually, when we were talking about assets, ⁓ there was a stress test portfolio that I heard at a conference that I thought was really awesome that I think about often. so thinking about when you said like, we're investing into this stock. Ryan Isaac (07:59) Yeah. That's it. Kiera Dent (08:20) portfolio, like we're basically putting so much of our biggest asset and so many of our dollars into one single stock. And they said, just stress test your portfolio. If my two biggest portions of my portfolio. Okay. So the two biggest portions right now. And I think about this often, even you and me, Ryan, if those two asset classes dropped yesterday, cause I always do like, if they dropped tomorrow and you're like, well, I'd freaking move things. No, if it dropped yesterday, so there's nothing you could do. Do you have the staying power for things to recover? So like, I don't need to liquidate my assets. Ryan Isaac (08:24) in one single, yeah. Mm. Kiera Dent (08:50) can still have income from our other assets and buying assets that are down. So looking at that, and I think about that often, like, so if your biggest ones are in the stock market and in your DSO and both of those dropped yesterday, like that's all that's gone. Could you still be okay? And if not, maybe look at other ways to diversify that portfolio. I'm not an advisor, Ryan. So you speak to like, if you agree or disagree on that, because that's my thoughts on it. Ryan Isaac (09:11) Yeah. Although yeah, no, that's a really ⁓ logical way to look at stress testing something. If the stock market disappeared as a whole yesterday, all, yeah, well, we just, every publicly traded company in the entire world would be gone simultaneously. We would all be in so much trouble. Like we just wouldn't have cell phone service or gasoline or, you know, like a million things. Yeah, for a minute. Kiera Dent (09:26) You say that we're all gonna go to the apocalypse, like. Good thing you're by the ocean. You at least have a good time there, Ryan. I need to get out of Reno, Nevada for that one year fact alone. Ryan Isaac (09:44) Yeah, yeah. For me, yeah, it would work for a minute, but then we would have no grocery chains, there would be no shipping distribution, there'd be no trucking, there would be no like, you know, we'd be done within like a week. You know what I mean? So, but you're the logic of it is true. It's almost like what if we just looked at stress testing a deal, you know, and you said there's usually three parts in a DSO deal, there's the cash up front, there's usually some kind of earned back, or bonus system, that's usually a smaller piece. And then there's the equity piece. And if one of those didn't exist, if one of those dropped off, what would this deal look like? And I think the question we have to ask is if the equity didn't hit, you know, if they don't get returns on multiples on their equity, like they're projecting and always, of course, the projections are huge, you know, always, always. If this does not come in like you expect, let's just say it's half of what they expected that which would be probably fair to say, or it's all you do is get your money back one day. Kiera Dent (10:32) always. Ryan Isaac (10:43) What does this now look like to you? Is this a survivable thing? And is this even something you would be interested in doing? But again, you said this before, I've been saying this, go talk to someone who knows what these deals look like, like Brandon. I'll give you an example. with a client a few weeks ago who had an offer. They were getting a lot of pressure from the group where this came from. They were kind of involved in like, well, I won't even say it. It was just a group of people of other dentists that were kind of pooling practices together. And this buyer, Kiera Dent (10:50) you Ryan Isaac (11:14) just a lot of pressure, a lot of hype, right? A lot of hype. And the deal as the details started coming through started smelling really weird. And even he was just like, I don't know. He talked to Brandon for 30 minutes and it became so obvious so quickly how bad this deal was. And now he's pushing the brakes a little bit. He's going to ramp up his profitability, work on the practices some more. He still wants to consider a sale, which is great with that's fine if that's still what you want to do. Kiera Dent (11:38) Yep. Ryan Isaac (11:43) But I think that conversation probably just saved him millions of dollars, literally in 30 minutes of conversation. So just talk to somebody, please, about these deals. There's every flavor out there. There's so many ways that they can twist and bend these things. And yeah, there's just a lot of moving pieces in there. So just be careful. Yeah, just talk to someone. Be careful. Kiera Dent (12:02) I would like, and what you said, also think like, make sure that you're also selling it for top dollar. This is something I really love about working with you guys, working with clients is if we know that there's a sell on the horizon, think one of the best things you can do is truly like pulling a consultant, pulling somebody. And like I was talking to a doctor the other day and they're like, KK, we want you to come in and help us like with our systems, but they're selling in a year. And I was like, well, respectfully as your consultant, I'm not going to sit here and deal with systems. Ryan Isaac (12:13) Yes. Please. Kiera Dent (12:31) If you're selling to a DSO, odds are a lot of those systems they're gonna bring into you anyway. Our best thing we can do is make your life easy right now, boost your production, reduce your overhead, increase your EBITDA so you get top dollar on the sale while making it like amazing. Like we'll still put systems into place. We'll still take care of your hot fires with your team right now. But like, why not go, it's like, if I know I'm selling my house in a year and if I did a few things to make it exponentially higher. Ryan Isaac (12:32) . Yeah. Kiera Dent (12:56) in the next year of my sell, why would I not do that now? And for us, it's not even like a house where I'm just painting the walls. We're literally boosting your production. We're pushing your overhead down. We're helping your whole team get on board for that. So that way your asset really is the best asset you can get. And we're not doing it in a hard way. So I know it feels like a push, but just know Dental A Team's way is ease. So it's like, it's going to be an exponential growth for you, but with like ridiculous ease. And most of our clients, we just did a huge study across the board of hundreds of our clients. Ryan Isaac (13:13) Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (13:24) And on average, they're seeing a 30 % increase in their production and a reduction in their overhead within their first three to six months of working with us. So like even if you have a year or two year timeline, that right there, so getting the right deal, making sure you're selling it at top, like squeezing the juice out of every single thing we possibly can get out of your practice. ⁓ But then also I feel like what happens in that scenario, Ryan, I see it all the time, is when we come in and we like powerhouse it up with them. Ryan Isaac (13:34) Thank Kiera Dent (13:51) They're like, wow, I'm working two days a week and I would make what this DSO was going to offer me and I don't even have to work. Why would I get rid of this practice right now to the DSO? That happens more than I can tell you because it's like they didn't realize it could happen this way. And I'm like, just tell me what you want. Like you want the DSO, you want to work two days. Why don't we build you that right now and like keep the asset that you've got and sell it when you want, which is going to make you the same amount of money as the DSO, but it's on your terms. Ryan Isaac (13:59) Yes. Yep. all the time. Kiera Dent (14:20) So I think that like people don't realize that you can have the benefits of the DSO today. I think the only piece you can't have like, but I give air quotes on can't is like, you still are an owner, but I'm like, there's literally ways for you to sell to partners, have it pay out to you. And you can actually get rid of that ownership piece if you don't want it ⁓ and still have it be the same type of a deal. I think like, don't forget that there's also deals outside of DSOs that you can do internally. ⁓ Ryan Isaac (14:26) Yep. Kiera Dent (14:48) but it is shocking Ryan how many practice, like I had a doctor and he's like, Kara, I'm going to get 5 million for my practice on this. And I was like, rock on in two years, we literally will make you 5 million net post-tax in two years. was like, literally, and that's net that's post-tax like in two years. I was like, this is not a good deal for you financially if you're going after the financial dollar. So I think just be smart with how you look at this because I don't know, right. And you do it to me all the time. You're like, Kara, yeah, go sell. Ryan Isaac (14:58) That's what you're make in two years of income. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (15:17) but you can also just get the life you want and have your practice and your business run differently, why not consider that scenario too? So I think. Ryan Isaac (15:19) Yeah. Yeah, I'm, yeah, okay. Sorry, finish your thought. I just like what you just said. I just love that. I was gonna ask you this exact thing. I was gonna ask you this exact thing. I was gonna say, Kiera, aren't there ways someone could step back and pause and say, why am I interested in selling to a DSO and then just try to create it through the work you guys do easily? Kiera Dent (15:27) Okay, so yeah, take it. 100 % and right you do it to me all the time. You're like Kiera. Well, what would you want your life to look like if you were to sell it? I'm like, I would care if you stopped if you sold what would your life look like? And I'm like, I do this. I do this. I do this. You're like, all right, then why don't we just make your business do that today? I don't think people realize how like you can manipulate your business to truly support the life, the finances, everything you want. Like it's shocking. I'm like just basically give me the North Star and we will manipulate the entire thing for you. Ryan Isaac (15:59) Just do it. Yeah. Yeah. Kiera Dent (16:14) in ways you didn't even know. like, I need Ryan to know our North Star where we need to get. Then we break it down to your, like what lifestyle you want to have. And then we just crank, like, it's like shake and bake. It's such an easy thing for us to do. And we're still doing it with like amazing ethics. It's under your control. It's your culture. It's your business. It's your life. But I mean, I have a doctor who's producing over 5 million a year, working two days a week, taking home DreamPaycheck and they were going to sell it to a DSO. And I'm like, it took us two years to get them to the offer. and they're like, they're so happy and they're able to now, like you said, I think one of the best pieces on this is they got everything that they would have gotten from the cell. But in addition to that, they didn't lose everything that they've built to where now they can go build and create, like you said, the two day a week practice where they're having it, but they've kept their huge asset over here. And so I just think like, I don't know. I feel like there's so many more options on the table than people necessarily think there are. And so. Ryan Isaac (17:03) Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (17:12) Maybe don't listen to all the noise, be the smarter. It's like when everybody's doing X, maybe there's a Y that would actually benefit your life. Ryan Isaac (17:16) Yeah. A million percent. Yeah. I mean, Warren Buffett has a quote around that. It's a little bit different with stock market buys and sells and greed and fear. But yeah, that's exactly it. Yeah. I love that you said that. I assume. What are we like 45 minutes already? I assume that you probably want to wrap this thing up, but I wanted to end it with that exact question you went there, which is like, can't we do this? Can't you? No. I mean, that's not the job we do. The Dental A team can help design. that what you're trying to accomplish that you think some private equity firms gonna come in and give you. And again, let's all just remember, private equity firms, ⁓ they don't love you. Kiera Dent (17:57) It's true. Ryan Isaac (17:58) They love your money and they are not stupid. There's a reason why they gobble up every industry in the economy is because they make us believe they're just giving us sweetheart deals. Like, they're gonna give us so much money. Isn't it so crazy? Like, no, they're really smart. They're gonna get so much more money from you than you're gonna get from them. So if they want your thing so bad that they're gonna chase you down and send you offers and every time you decline, they're gonna be like, okay, wait, what about this one? Kiera Dent (18:15) They are. Ryan Isaac (18:26) They want it so bad. You must really be holding something really special. So how can you make that thing become your dream scenario without having to give it up? First, just consider that again, no judgment. There is no right or wrong. Maybe that is your path and that is best for you. Great. If you do the work and the, you know, the research and you're just sitting and you're asking smart people like here in the Dental A Team, you know, about all the details and you're asking yourself why through all this process, that's just, that's the whole thing. So I'm glad you Kiera Dent (18:31) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Ryan Isaac (18:56) Assuming we're ending it soon. I'm glad you ended it with that because that's what I was thinking about Kiera Dent (19:01) Well, and I'm glad I'm going around the same beach because I feel like DSOs can be such a buzz. I think it's, I don't know. I just thought about, I remember when Jason and I were graduating from pharmacy school and we had a lot of debt on us and it was so tempting to go the 10 year loan forgiveness plan. So tempting. And Jason and I decided like, Hey, we don't want to like hope and bank that in 10 years, we're actually going to get all this paid off. Ryan Isaac (19:07) yeah. Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (19:29) And if it doesn't happen, what's it going to cost us at that point? And so we elected to just go for it to pay for it and to basically have it like, it's within our control rather than someone else holding my future. And I think that's how I often live my life of like, is there a way that I can get my dream life or I'm not banking on someone else holding up their end of the deal, hoping and praying that their equity makes it and it's something that we can actually do with ease? Why not do that? Ryan Isaac (19:33) Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (19:55) Ryan knows it was a huge issue with me and Jason for about a year to pay off his student loans, but the growth and the life that we were able to achieve that we wouldn't even be done. We still would not even be done with our debt right now. And it would have ballooned and not all of the debt's being eliminated. Like there's so many things around these loan forgiveness programs that I think about that with DSOs too. You have so much banked in, the hope, the promises, like everything has to go right for this huge multiple to have it there. Ryan Isaac (20:07) yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Kiera Dent (20:24) Is there maybe a few other paths that you could look at that might get you what you ultimately want, give it to you with more control on your side, and also be able to allow you just more flexibility and freedom. Again, no judgment. think what Ryan and I are trying to bring to the table is maybe just consider looking at things differently to see what's the best path for you. And I say like, right back at you, Ryan, use your financial advisors, know what your magic number is, know what you need, and then figure out which option is going to be that. Ryan Isaac (20:48) Yeah. Kiera Dent (20:52) while also providing you the dream life that you want. So Ryan, thanks for the riff today. It was a solid time. Ryan Isaac (20:54) Yep. Thank you. It almost felt like planned. was so smooth. Kiera Dent (21:01) So, mean, it does help when we're good like peanut butter jelly. Like we're very aligned on how we see, that's why I think our clients work so well together because like Denali team clients going to Dentist advisors, it's amazing. We think on similar investment strategies and like just the planning and the protecting clients. And on the other side, it's, Hey, here's our financial number. Denali team literally can like give the gas and give the pieces to it of tactical. So thanks Ryan. was a good time. Ryan Isaac (21:04) Yep. Hmm. We all want to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We want to grow and protect that business and make it, you know, it's your whole life. Make it as good as you possibly can. You guys are so good at that. Kiera Dent (21:34) Great. Well, Ryan, if people are interested in connecting with you, how do they get connected? Because again, I think for me, before I even talked to DSOs, I always tell them like talk to your financial advisor, figure out your project number. That way you actually can then have even one filter on what deals you're looking for, what plan you need your business to be. So Ryan, how do they connect with you? Ryan Isaac (21:41) Yeah, totally. Million percent. So I'll always say friends of the Dental A Team always can email me directly. I'll always have a conversation with anyone no matter what you're looking for. You don't have to be trying to hire a financial advisor. You might just have a few questions and I will always get on the phone and talk to someone. Just email me directly if you ever want to. Ryan at Dentist Advisors dot com. It's with an O.R.S. You can all just also just go to our website dentist advisor dot com. have probably thousands of hours of free content on there, podcasts, articles, webinars, everything. You can book a consultation with our whole team there at any time. go learn as much as you want, listen to anything, tons of free stuff on there, but that's the best thing. I'm always happy to have a conversation. Kiera Dent (22:29) It's amazing. And just so you know, Ryan does not take very many clients. So that's why I love him being on here. He's one of the founders. I think Ryan's one of the smartest people I've ever met. So definitely take him up on it. I know tons of our clients love meeting with Ryan because Ryan will tell you like, Hey, you don't need me or Hey, here's someone better for you. So I think it's just like, you're just an incredible human who ultimately cares and loves about these dentists, which is why I just appreciate you. So check him out. Yeah, of course. And for everyone listening, thank you for listening and we'll catch you next time. Ryan Isaac (22:31) Yeah. I do. Yep, I do. Thank you. Thank you. Kiera Dent (22:59) the Dental A Team Podcast.
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You're gonna have to care about the problem that you're solving. Lesley Logan 0:12 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51 Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the endearingly fun convo I had with Matthew Lesko in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one, because you've missed out. Brad Crowell 1:09 So you could also have said the wise, happy old man convo I had, who drops a lot of F bombs. Lesley Logan 1:14 And also, when we say old, I just want to say, like, there's nothing. He is not like slow.Brad Crowell 1:20 No, he does not come across that old. And he said PSM 81. I was like, what? Really?Lesley Logan 1:26 Yeah, yeah, he's feisty and fun, and. Brad Crowell 1:29 Heck yeah. Lesley Logan 1:29 And like, working so hard for everyone. And I was just so excited. And then when we I was like, I had just interviewed him that day, and our friend Michael and Brogan was here at the house, and I was like, oh my God, I just interviewed someone. You should have him on your show. And I just started describing him and our friend Michael was like, Matthew Lesko? And he was like, he's like, the guy with a question mark suit. And I'm like, yeah, that's him. And he's like, stop right now. I want him on my show. So anyways, super, super fun. We'll get into that episode in just a second. But today is July 3rd 2025 and it's National Compliment Your Mirror Day. National Compliment Your Mirror Day is on July 3rd. We live in an image-driven world. Sometimes this can cause us to not notice and compliment a very important person in our lives, ourselves. This day motivates us to look in the mirror and recognize all those things that make us exceptional, inside and out. So go look yourself in the mirror and give yourself a compliment. Brad Crowell 2:25 Go do it. Lesley Logan 2:25 Do it now. You can use your phone as a camera if , as a mirror, if you want. But sometimes I do that. Okay, literally, next week. Is it next week? I guess it's July 3rd, so maybe a little after a week. Brad Crowell 2:38 Well, Happy July 4th for those in the United States. Lesley Logan 2:41 Those who celebrate. Brad Crowell 2:42 The independence that we are on the brink of not having. Lesley Logan 2:47 You guys, I'm just going to be really honest, we're recording this while L.A. is being taken over by people. A lot of misleading information, a lot of bad stuff. Make sure always, always, always, always get news from the people who are on the ground, because people like to spend things. And so anyways, if you're celebrating the Fourth of July, Happy Fourth of July. But, in exciting news, on July 9th, I'm hosting a free workout for those people who are interested in eLevate, my mentorship program. And we'll have a Q&A, we'll have eLevate grads on there who will tell you why they love it so much. And you just want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist to get on, get the invitation, and come to that. We have, like, I don't know, at the time we're recording this, like, eight spots left, I think, which is not a lot of spots at all. Brad Crowell 2:47 It's not a lot of spots, y'all. Lesley Logan 3:27 No, and we're actually, like, gonna be, you know, pretty soon, starting to work out who has what time slot. Brad Crowell 3:40 I mean, there are hundreds of people on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 3:43 Yeah, like, like, several hundreds. Like, for eight people. Brad Crowell 3:47 Eight spots, right? Because we started.Lesley Logan 3:49 But don't let that deter you. That means you should go be one of those eight people. Brad Crowell 3:53 100%Lesley Logan 3:54 Yeah. Brad Crowell 3:54 Yeah. And you're welcome to reach out, you know now, so, but yeah, July 9th, it's gonna be a super good time. We're going to have a free class, answer questions, have some alumni on there, but guess what I'm really excited about, too.Lesley Logan 4:07 Yeah, we're doing Agency Mini, our coaching program that we do, where we. Brad Crowell 4:12 Bringing it back. Lesley Logan 4:12 We help as many people as possible. Brad Crowell 4:12 Bring it back to me. Lesley Logan 4:13 Yeah, and we're doing it in three days, so you don't have to be overwhelmed by a week-long situation with like, the Facebook, none of that stuff. So if you've heard of Mini before, this is a new Mini. Brad Crowell 4:28 If you've done Mini before, you should come back and do that. Lesley Logan 4:31 Yeah, we used to have a rule that you couldn't and now you can. Brad Crowell 4:34 Yeah, we're, this is a special invite. Special invite because it's different. You know. We're, we're taking the concept and we made it better, we made it shorter, we made it easier, we made it faster, all the things. And so, you know, you really can learn a lot in just three days with us. And then, you know, there's also opportunities for coaching calls, which we never offer outside of our coaching group. Or you can book a coaching call with either Lesley or with me. It's a Round Robin. So you'll be surprised at who you get, because it's just based on our availability. But basically.Lesley Logan 4:58 Oh, that's cool. So they're just booking it and, like. Brad Crowell 5:07 They're just booking a call and getting aside. Lesley Logan 5:08 Cool. It's like speed dating.Brad Crowell 5:10 Kind of, but it's gonna be great because, you know, we, we don't have, we don't set aside the time to coach people who are not in our coaching group, because it's already a lot, right? And so what we've done differently this time is we're creating that space that time we actually are leaving, you know, time during six days where you can book a call with us. And you do that when you register for Agency Mini, so when you're going through and it says, like, oh, do you want to join Agency? Say yes. And then during the checkout, you'll say, oh yeah, and yes, I would like to add a coaching call and so, you know, we'll, we'll be able to chat. It's gonna be awesome. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to meeting everybody. I love hearing all the different things that are going on. I just had a coaching call with a new Agency member, and she's opening up a bigger space, like a much bigger space than her current space. Lesley Logan 5:56 Oh, is it, who I think it is? Brad Crowell 6:03 No, not at all. So, you know, and they, they were, they're trying to figure out, like, you know, all the mechanics behind that. And what's so fun is that Lesley and I've been able to be there for this conversation many, many, many, many times over the years, plus we've done it ourselves, right? So anyway, come join us. Go to Agency Mini, prfit.biz/mini P-R-F-I-T dot biz, that's profit without the O dot biz slash mini. Then, we're hitting the road.Lesley Logan 6:33 Yeah, after Mini, we literally pack up the van and we're gonna go on tour, you guys, 15 cities and like, 20-something days. Our tour is powered by Balanced Body, and many of the events are sold out, like a lot of them are sold out and so but also on this one, there is an opportunity to join a virtual so if I've never come to a city near you, you've never had the time to drive a half hour across town, all that stuff, you can actually get tickets to the virtual events we're doing in Calgary. So go to opc.me/tour to see the lineup, the cities. I can name them for you. We're doing Phoenix, San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, San Francisco, Sacramento, Eureka, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Kamloops, Calgary, McCall, Idaho, Salt Lake in Las Vegas.Brad Crowell 7:18 That's right, I'm impressed you just rattled that off I think that's 16, right? Something like that. 15?Lesley Logan 7:22 Some people keep saying 15, whenever I counted. It feels like 16, so I don't know. Brad Crowell 7:28 Yeah. Well, anyway, it's a bunch. It's exciting. We've got a lot going on, and we can't wait to meet you in person. So come join us. Go to opc dot me slash T-O-U-R that's opc.me/tour. And then.Lesley Logan 7:41 We had a lot of people in the U.K. jealous of this tour. And I'm like, hold on, we're coming your way in September. So we come home, we acclimate, then we go into the U.K. We have two city locations in the U.K. for our Mullet Tour, which means business in the front Pilates in the back. Don't worry, the business is also like life skills. So.Brad Crowell 7:59 It's not like super deep business in a studio. So you can.Lesley Logan 8:02 No, you can be a non-teacher. Brad Crowell 8:04 One of them is about scheduling, and you can apply that to any element of life, like. Lesley Logan 8:14 One of them is about habits. Brad Crowell 8:14 And the other's about habits. That's right. So. So anyway, it's gonna be awesome. Go to opc.me/uk.Lesley Logan 8:15 We'll do Leeds and we'll do Essex. And right now we have three spots left in Leeds. No, they're not days passes yet available for Leeds. There's only three weekend passes left, so we're not breaking those up. In Essex, we have day passes because it's during the week. Or you can save money by getting two day pass. So go to opc.me/uk you can come to both. There's only, like, two workshops that cross over. So.Brad Crowell 8:37 You could come to Leeds and then to Essex, yeah, you totally could do that, and then you can continue the conversation. Because often, when you do a workshop and you leave, how often do you immediately revisit that content? Imagine being able to revisit it right away and just take it even deeper, hear it again and, like, really dial it in. So that's also an option. Then, in October, guess where we're going? Lesley Logan 9:01 Back to Cambodia. Brad Crowell 9:02 That's what we're doing. We can't wait. Obviously, we love Cambodia. We love going there. We love helping people experience another world altogether. It is just the coolest place.Lesley Logan 9:13 I love just like getting some time away from the life and chaos that's going on that you like, absorb all the time, and you're dealing with all the time to just like, to just fill your cup up and be amazed about what community can look like in a village, and what it can look like to see temples that took hundreds, if not thousands of people over, you know, several years working together. And sometimes when I just feel like there's just no way we're going to solve this problem, that I go there and I'm like, well, they did this, and if they did this, I can solve a problem. So, like, I just it's always very, It's humbling, but also grounding, and then it really allows you to step away from what's going on and get a bigger, get a better understanding and come back into it.Brad Crowell 9:57 I love it. Well, you're not wrong. It is mind-blowing it is one of those trips that will change your perspective of life in general. It's amazing. So you should join us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Come join us. There are still spots for this October, and it's not too late to get the plane tickets. I think Lesley and I just basically bought ours recently. Lesley Logan 10:18 We have haven't bought them yet. No. Brad Crowell 10:19 We've been looking at them. Lesley Logan 10:19 We're looking at them. Brad Crowell 10:19 So we haven't bought them yet, right? So don't worry, there's room, okay, there's time. So come join us. But, before we get into the Matthew Lesko question mark jacket, he didn't wear it in the interview. But he. Lesley Logan 10:33 Yes, he did. Brad Crowell 10:34 He wore his question mark jacket? Lesley Logan 10:36 Oh, yeah, you didn't watch? Brad Crowell 10:37 No, I did watch, but I kept looking at his epic blue glasses.Lesley Logan 10:41 No, there was question marks on that suit that clearly-fitted-to-him suit. Brad Crowell 10:46 He's a badass. Lesley Logan 10:47 Wonderfully fitted to him. Brad Crowell 10:48 Well. Anyway, before we get into that, we have an audience question @MarleneBroek on YouTube says, I wish I could do a Scottish accent, because I think her last name is Scottish, but I'm not going to try. She said hello, I already have a Reformer, but my head rest is stationary. Any recommendation for a separate headrest, such as the kind that forms to one's neck, interesting, or one that is flat to go on top of it. Thank you so much for your time. All right, Marlene, get ready, because I already know what's coming.Lesley Logan 11:22 So unfortunately, you all, many, many people are now making Reformers who've never done Pilates before, and they don't know that these things make a difference. So I'm super, super glad you're curious, because your headrest is not supposed to be stationary. So what I don't know from this is, if your headrest is stationary up or stationary down. My hope is that it's stationary down, because then we can get like a wedge pillow of some kind that will mimic a head rest being up. But then you could take that, that insert away, and then you could actually still do overhead exercises. If it is stationary up, you cannot do any overhead exercises. No, there's nothing we can do. I don't even know that what you can do, because I don't have a picture of your Reformer, don't know if it has hinges, if you could add anything. Unclear. So what I will say is, I'm just going to assume your headrest is stationary down for the rest of this conversation. You don't want a pillow or headrest that forms to your neck, because we're not actually trying to support the neck in that way we're, actually, when we have the headrest up, it's meant to tilt your head in just a way, so your neck can relax, but your upper abs can engage without us even telling you. That's why the headrest is up for footwork, for frogs and circles, for running, for pelvic lift, that your headrest is up so that your you just have this nice little support to help you engage your upper abs without you using your neck. It's really quite cool. He's very fast. So anyways, and it's down when you're not using that. So you can do overhead exercises. You get your box on top, things like that. So I would look into, Marlene, some sort of like foam wedge that you can cut to the size of your headrest. Brad Crowell 13:00 And firm foam. Lesley Logan 13:01 I would definitely say something firm. You don't want to be like a pillow.Brad Crowell 13:05 Right. So, so, like, I'm thinking about your baby chair and that little funny wedge that you have for the baby chair. Kind of would be like that. So, like, and that wedge, you're sitting on it, and it doesn't move, like, it doesn't give, it, literally, is intended to level out the baby chair. So in this case, you would want something that's firm like that as well. Lesley Logan 13:23 Yeah, very firm, like, you can even.Brad Crowell 13:26 Like, you basically just taking it on and off.Lesley Logan 13:27 I mean, I would imagine, like, if you have someone handy in your life with, like, a really cool saw that could, like, take a yoga block and, like, slice it from. Brad Crowell 13:37 That's a good texture, yoga block. I bet you could modify a yoga block to make your own wedge. Lesley Logan 13:42 Yeah. And I think that some yoga blocks even come like that. So, like you, I mean, like, there's a lot of things out there, but that's what I would do. Brad Crowell 13:50 What kind of angle are we talking about here?Lesley Logan 13:52 Let me just get my protractor out. It's, it's not as.Brad Crowell 13:59 If there's a right angle, is it halfway? Lesley Logan 14:01 No. Brad Crowell 14:02 No. It's 1/3 of the way? Lesley Logan 14:03 One-third, maybe. Your eyes are still able to look at the ceiling. You're not looking at your toes. Brad Crowell 14:09 Got it. Lesley Logan 14:10 Yeah. Brad Crowell 14:10 Cool. Lesley Logan 14:11 Yeah. So Marlene, I hope this helps you. This is why I did the Reformer, you know, how to choose a reformer video. And this is why these are things we have to think about when it comes to what, what changes did an engineer make when making your rReformer, you know, like, did they change the springs for bungee cords? Did they change the foot bar that moves to a fixed vertical foot bar? Did they change that there's no head the headrest doesn't go down or doesn't go up? Did they change the shoulder rest so that they're round and not actually something that like allows your shoulders to be wide, or your foot to be against something that like fills their foot out like the Contrology shoulder blocks actually fit the shape of your foot. That's why they're (inaudible). That's why they're made the way they're made. So.Brad Crowell 14:53 I was like, what?Lesley Logan 14:55 So anyways, I don't think you have to go buy a whole other Reformer, Marlene, but I would do this, and then I would have a little savings account for the another, the next Reformer. And trust me, someone will buy this off you for the same thing you paid for it, because everything goes up in price and they're not paying tax on shipping.Brad Crowell 15:10 No doubt. Well, and then when you're ready to go shopping, reach back out to us and we'll connect you with Balanced Body, where we've got a discount code for you there. So yeah, all right. If you have a question.Lesley Logan 15:21 Send it to the beitpod.com/questions. Brad Crowell 15:24 That's right. Send it to beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions. If you have a win, and you want us to cover that win on the FYFs on Friday, you can also submit it right there as well. So thanks for asking that. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into the question mark-filled convo with Matthew Lesko. Actually, it's more like mind-blowing convo. He has said wealth of information and exuberance for life. I really enjoyed it. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 15:50 Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Mr. Matthew Lesko. At the age of 81, Matthew is still rocking those question mark suits and has spent four decades helping people find free resources that they did not know existed, which I kind of think is amazing. He has written over 100 books, y'all, he's written 100 books. He has appeared on shows like Oprah, Larry King, The Good Morning America, and built a thriving online community that connects people to grants, businesses and funding and overlooked financial support. PS, I did math while I was listening, his, his community is like 5000 plus people. Yeah, that's crazy. From a string of failed businesses to becoming a recognizable voice for everyday people, Matthew has made it his mission to make support accessible. And it proves it's not about luck. It's about knowing where to look. So we're fired up about that. That was amazing. Tell me one of your favorite things about this convo. Lesley Logan 16:47 Okay. How many things can I talk about? But first I want to just like he emphasized, there's no single formula for success. He talks about how life and starting anything new, this is important, means dealing with failure, struggle and a lot of guesswork. My perfectionist, here it is from someone who's written 100 books and is 81 years old and seen it all. You know, it come like success actually comes from dealing with failure, struggling, a lot of guesswork. And he believes success doesn't come from knowing everything, but from possessing the energy and willingness to keep trying and learn from failures. Hold on. I have to, I have to say this. He strongly advocates that you follow your heart. Stated, he says the way to get anything done is your heart has to be in it. He also said your heart is smarter than your brain, and to trust that more than anything. And I love this, because I think, like a lot of people, like, well, what's specifically when we coach people on their Pilates business, I'm like, oh, you know, who do you want to help? Well, that's, I want to help everyone. Brad Crowell 17:45 Me, too. Lesley Logan 17:45 Right. But like, who do you want to help? Because if your heart's not in it, you're gonna really be annoyed helping the person that you don't want to help. And then you're if your heart's not in it, you're gonna start resenting them and, like, start going, oh, this becomes another job, right? Like, your heart has to be in what you're doing.Brad Crowell 18:01 Yeah, definitely. You know, it's so funny. We were just talking about this recently, where I feel like there's the two extremes, like I'll do anything for money. I'll only do it if I love it. And, you know, I know I kind of flip flopped over this, you know, during my life. And he has a very compelling argument to follow your heart, and I think also too, you know, he's very savvy. He's very business savvy. So he's been able to figure out how, by following his heart, can he also make money. And he's turned it into like a mission, and that mission has attracted other people who are like-minded. And, I mean, that is like the ideal scenario. Lesley Logan 18:45 Well, and also, if you realize, like, you know, first of all, you know, Big Magic is a great book for everyone to read. And some of your things that you love to do, that you're like, are creative, aren't meant for making money on. So that's, we're not. I don't think that Matthew or us are advocating that you like if you love pottery, that you go or you only make pots, and that's how you make money. That whatever you are setting yourself up to do, to go through the struggles, to go through the obstacles, to go through the failures, you'll, you have to actually want to do it. You can have to care about the problem that you're solving. If you don't care, you're not gonna be able to handle those obstacles. You're not gonna be able to go through it. You're gonna, you'll get, you'll get a door slam on your face and just go, okay, well, I'm not into it, right? So I think that's what he means, that your heart has to be in it. Like not everything you love doing will be a thing you make money on, but you gotta care about what you're doing. Gotta have care for it to be successful.Brad Crowell 19:40 Yeah, and I think there was something he said that just went right out of my mind. But he, he, he was talking about the when his, when he first, he actually, first off, I had no idea, he was in the military, but apparently he was in the military after he got out, he started.Lesley Logan 20:02 81 (inaudible). I don't think you get to be 81 and you weren't, unless you're an asshole, draft dodger dickhead. Anyway.Brad Crowell 20:02 That's fair. So he, he said he started a bunch of businesses and they failed. He started another business and they failed, and then he became a consultant, and that somehow, you know, was working, but then he was making millionaires billionaires. And he was like, that sucks. You know, he's like, these people don't care about anybody except for themselves. And he was not and he was not really enjoying it. And you know, he said he had this moment though, where he's showing up for the job, and he's like, uh, someday it's gonna be better and more fun, and then hopefully when I'm retired, I'll be able to go enjoy life. And he said, wait a minute. Why? Why should I keep doing something that I hate just hoping that someday it'll make it'll be better, it'll I will enjoy it more, or it's gonna pay me what I want to pay. He's like, I only have one life to live, and I'm better. I should start enjoying what I'm doing now. How do I do that? How do I do that? You know? So he said he flipped the script and decided to prioritize having fun. And he said having fun is contagious. He said it's a little contagious. In fact, you know, just his approach to the podcast was contagious and fun and joyful, you know. And he said it's also when you're doing something that feels fun, you are naturally motivated to work harder, right? So, you know, instead of like, kicking yourself to go get the thing done, that you have to do, what if you could do something that is fun, you know, you're gonna do it well, because you love doing it?Lesley Logan 21:37 Yeah. Yeah. It made me think a little bit about Gay Hendricks is, like, zone of genius kind of a thing. Like, I feel like. Brad Crowell 21:44 Sure.Lesley Logan 21:44 I feel like they're very similar, except for this one is, like, except for Matthew is teaching us how to get the money we need to go do the thing we love.Brad Crowell 21:54 Yeah, it's, it's very true, and he's encyclopedic with that, as well. He was very impressive. Lesley Logan 21:58 I will say. Like, if you listen to episode 400, Gay Hendricks will help you figure out what your zone of genius is. And then Matthew Lesko will give you all the websites for where you can get paid to do your zone of genius. I think that these are two must listen tos.Brad Crowell 22:12 Who knew that kind of a thing, just, mind-blowing. Lesley Logan 22:12 And I think that each state has that. You have to figure out, like, how does your state, how does your state make money? Right? Because every state's a little different. How they tax, what they tax. So like, obviously Nevada is not excited to help us unless we are a casino. So since we are not one of those things, we're not getting that. But at the same time, there's still going to be things we can reach out to figure like, find ways, because this, they do have local people who need.Brad Crowell 22:40 Yeah, gambling and tourism, that's how Nevada makes money.Lesley Logan 22:43 Yeah. So that's how that makes money. So, like, but we can figure out, like, okay, well, how, what does the city need, right? Because we actually don't live for, the strip is not part of Las Vegas, surprising. It's technically paradise, but, but, but you can figure out what your city needs to get, what your county needs to get, what state needs, and then go, oh, well, what are they? They're paying for that, they're giving out grants for that. Like, yeah, you do the paperwork. But like, not many people are. Brad Crowell 23:06 Not many people are. Lesley Logan 23:07 Remember, I forget her name, B-D B-D. Brad Crowell 23:12 B-E-A-T-Y? Lesley Logan 23:14 Yeah. No, no, B-E-A-T-T-E. She was on our on an episode of The Be It Pod, and she got a, she got an SBA grant because she filled out the fucking paperwork.Brad Crowell 23:26 Yeah, I. Lesley Logan 23:27 B-D Brad Crowell 23:28 Don't have her name there.Lesley Logan 23:30 Well, she's in the two hundreds. Let's see how.Brad Crowell 23:35 Oh, B-E-A-T-E Chalet, Chalet. She was, she,her interview was 196. I'm very proud.Lesley Logan 23:43 Ah, I was so close. And I was thinking, Beate Chelette, but I was like, no, I was confusing her with Aletta Rochat. And I was like, no, but actually, I should have said it out loud, because I was right. Anyway, so close, so close. Yeah, but she, if you guys listen to her episode 196 she actually got an SBA grant for her business idea. You know? Brad Crowell 24:05 I love that. Lesley Logan 24:05 Because she did the thing that Matthew said to do, make the appointment, sit down with the people like, fill out the thing. Anyways.Brad Crowell 24:13 Impressive. All right. Well, anyway, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into that amazing convo you had with him about the Be It Action Items, which y'all literally, you have to take notes like, it is, it's 100% you have to go back. You slow it down, listen to it twice, write down all the things he said. But we're gonna talk about it so. Lesley Logan 24:31 And it's also in the transcripts. Brad Crowell 24:33 Oh yeah, we'll put the links in the transcripts, but stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 24:37 Okay. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me Mindi. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Matthew Lesko. He shared an abundance of untapped government resources, both state and federal. By the way, it's not just the federal.Lesley Logan 25:00 And I guess for the people who live internationally, I imagine these things probably exist in a lot of places you live. Brad Crowell 25:05 I'm 100% sure about Canada. In fact, I have a lot of musician friends who would get grants in Canada where the Canadian government was willing to sponsor. Lesley Logan 25:14 Yes. We have had guests who do that. That is amazing. Brad Crowell 25:16 Yeah. And that that like, I don't even maybe that's available here too. I have no idea, but I'll tell you. You know, that was seemed to me like, like my college friends were like, I want to make an album. And they literally applied to the Canadian federal government, and they got like, 10 grand to make an album. And I was in college going, how the hell, why can't I get 10 grand? Lesley Logan 25:36 I mean, they were Canadian, obviously. Brad Crowell 25:38 Yeah, they were, they were obviously Canadian. So anyway, he shared a bunch of untapped resources. He said that 40% of everything in our economy are organizations that give you free money to solve a problem. I don't really understand that statistic, and I can't actually validate that, but he's been doing this for four decades, y'all, so he knows all these things. He emphasized that these programs are already paid for with our tax dollars. So it's on us to take advantage of them, or the money just sits there, it doesn't get used, right? And also, it might not be the kind of thing that they get to they don't just hoard it and pile it. It might be like, hey, you can give up to $2 million away, but if they don't, they don't get to keep it, right? So basically, it's on us to go take advantage of what is available to us. And it was fascinating to listen to him talk about the different reasons that someone might want to go get a talk to these organizations and go through the process. He emphasized that, well, yeah, there, and this stuff is already funded. It's already paid for. He advised the to seek out free government and nonprofit resources directly, rather than relying on standard search engines like Google, specifically, because they don't actually do SEO, or they're gated searches, you can't actually search them with outside search engines like Google. Right? And so basically, he gave us examples like findhelp.org which is amazing. It's about local finding local help for things like food, housing, health, money.Lesley Logan 27:04 That, right there is so amazing how many people are struggling to afford groceries right now. Like, maybe, maybe you're not someone who is it, but maybe someone you know is. You can send them that information. Brad Crowell 27:15 findhelp.org you know, and there will be links in the show notes. So there's more links in the show notes. Lesley Logan 27:22 So many. Brad Crowell 27:22 Yeah. He talked about the SBA. He talked about Apex Accelerators, which I've never heard of before. He talked about career and job training. Lesley Logan 27:30 Oh, and turn your VPNs off, y'all. Brad Crowell 27:31 Yeah, yeah. They're, you know, if they're a government side, it might have trouble if you have a VPN on. He talked about HUD, which is like another United States government, housing urban development, and he said, there's free financial and debt counseling, right? And they can help you get out of debt.Lesley Logan 27:48 I mean, I had no idea, because, like so many of my friends and everyone had, like, use those companies that can, like, you know, supposedly help, but it could affect your credit at the same time. Like, who? Who knew if you use the government agency, maybe it would have been different.Brad Crowell 28:02 I wish I had known when I when I had a failed business. It would have been really helpful. Wish I had known. So anyway, what about you? I mean, all those things and there's still more. Lesley Logan 28:11 Okay, so we said it already. We're gonna say it again, because it's a Be It Action Item. Once you find a resource, book an appointment, okay? Matthew said, everybody just wants to fill out on application online, and wait for the money. You can't do that, he said, because you don't know. Brad Crowell 28:23 What did everybody wants to say what? Lesley Logan 28:23 Everybody wants to just fill out the applications online. Like, you know, like, oh, let me just do it online. It's just copy paste, copy paste. And he's saying, don't do that, because you don't know how the application should be filled out. And, like, there's always the little nuances, right? Like, we're currently working with lawyers who are filling out legal forms for us to go to Canada. So if we had done it ourselves, we wouldn't know the insight and the nuances to like, oh, actually, put this instead of that, because this will get you across. And that is actually going to be like, we have enough of those. So like, you want to make sure that you're working with someone who's like, fighting for you to fill it out correctly will tell you what certain things mean. I mean, sometimes I don't even know. It's like, you're like, oh, I think that's where I put my business name, and it's not, it's where you put your account number or something like that. So, you know, just work with the people. They're in the office I'm talking, I'm sure it'll brighten their day to hear what you're working on, right, what you need help with. Also, they often know the other people in the area, the community, the other resources to help you, right, like, oh, if I'm not the right resource, this person is, if you're starting a business or a nonprofit or side hustle, the smartest move is to call your local SBA office and speak with a counselor. Again, not something online, not a chatGPT. You gotta go and talk to someone. And then he also said, talk to experts who.Brad Crowell 29:42 SBA stands for Small Business Administration, right? So that's a federal government thing, but they have local offices around the country, so you can actually go in and make an appointment to to their office. In fact, also too, not that I'm like, a huge fan of the big banks, but big banks actually often have training programs for business owners, too.Lesley Logan 30:02 Yes, but we're not fans of big banks because they won't help you get an SBA.Brad Crowell 30:05 Almost never will they help you get a loan. But, you know, there are resources available there too, but the SBA is actually, like, trying to help you get the money. Lesley Logan 30:13 Yeah, I would fuck the big banks.Brad Crowell 30:17 If the big banks, like, honestly, the SBA doesn't let you apply for SBA funding directly through the SBA. You have to apply through a bank. You don't necessarily need to apply through a big bank, though. So that's the difference there.Lesley Logan 30:30 Right. So, and then also make sure you have the experts who can help you, help people like you, guide you to the right programs and the paperwork, and they usually do this for free. And you know, he's someone who loves to help people. So, like, there's, there's things out there. You're not on your own. Your friends and family might not be the best people to ask, but, you know what? Go to these offices and go, oh, they can't help you. Do you know who? Do you know who will, who can? Like, what else should I search? What should I be searching? Because I get the right thing. Like, they'll, they'll even, even at the DMV people help me, if you just ask the right questions and you're really nice. So trust me, people want to help people. Brad Crowell 30:34 Yeah, it's true. It's true. Well, what a wealth of information. Also, he has like, here's like, books that are like, $20 so, like, even if you're, you know, look, if you're looking for more and you, you know, want to check out his resources. He has that community. The community he built is like people trying to help people find the right stuff. So, I mean, it's just curious. It's just fascinating.Lesley Logan 31:29 Sounds super positive. Brad Crowell 31:30 It sounds really positive, yeah. Lesley Logan 31:31 Yeah. Who doesn't need that in their life? Anyways, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Brad Crowell 31:36 Share it. Send it.Lesley Logan 31:37 This is the episode to share. There's so much in there for people, everybody.Brad Crowell 31:41 Episode 545, y'all, share it. Lesley Logan 31:43 545Brad Crowell 31:44 545Lesley Logan 31:44 I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 31:45 And I'm Brad Crowell. Thanks so much for being here. Lesley Logan 31:48 Oh, okay, you totally did. Show. We already said to share this. So now, go Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 31:55 Bye for now.Lesley Logan 31:57 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 32:39 It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 32:44 It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. 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Pricewaterhouse Cooper has released the independent review board's report on the heap leach failure at the Eagle Gold Mine in Yukon last summer. New drill results from Marimaca Copper, Ridgeline Minerals and Goldshore Resources were published this morning. Ero Copper says Tucumã has achieved commercial production.This episode of Mining Stock Daily is brought to you by... Revival Gold is one of the largest pure gold mine developer operating in the United States. The Company is advancing the Mercur Gold Project in Utah and mine permitting preparations and ongoing exploration at the Beartrack-Arnett Gold Project located in Idaho. Revival Gold is listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the ticker symbol “RVG” and trades on the OTCQX Market under the ticker symbol “RVLGF”. Learn more about the company at revival-dash-gold.comVizsla Silver is focused on becoming one of the world's largest single-asset silver producers through the exploration and development of the 100% owned Panuco-Copala silver-gold district in Sinaloa, Mexico. The company consolidated this historic district in 2019 and has now completed over 325,000 meters of drilling. The company has the world's largest, undeveloped high-grade silver resource. Learn more at https://vizslasilvercorp.com/Equinox has recently completed the business combination with Calibre Mining to create an Americas-focused diversified gold producer with a portfolio of mines in five countries, anchored by two high-profile, long-life Canadian gold mines, Greenstone and Valentine. Learn more about the business and its operations at equinoxgold.com Integra is a growing precious metals producer in the Great Basin of the Western United States. Integra is focused on demonstrating profitability and operational excellence at its principal operating asset, the Florida Canyon Mine, located in Nevada. In addition, Integra is committed to advancing its flagship development-stage heap leach projects: the past producing DeLamar Project located in southwestern Idaho, and the Nevada North Project located in western Nevada. Learn more about the business and their high industry standards over at integraresources.com
In this episode of The Bourbon Road, Jim Shannon and Todd Ritter return for Part Two of their deep dive into Lost Lantern's 2025 Summer Collection — and this time, it's all about the rye. The duo tastes through a curated lineup of four standout rye whiskeys, plus a bonus pour, delivering flavor notes, backstories, and some playful banter along the way. The tasting kicks off with Far North Spirits from Minnesota, a 4-year-old rye clocking in at 111.5 proof. It impresses with grain-forward notes, minty freshness, and a candy-like sweetness that evolves into a spicy finish — evoking everything from Melba toast to black licorice jellybeans. Next is the return of Fray Ranch from Nevada with a 6-year, 118.6-proof rye that blows both hosts away. With tasting notes of mint chocolate chip, brandy-like fruit, and a chocolate-dipped finish, it emerges as a strong contender for favorite pour of the episode. Colby and the Fray Ranch team continue to prove why their farm-to-glass model is producing truly unique and exceptional whiskey. The episode is peppered with exciting bourbon news, including: The upcoming release of Heaven Hill's Grain to Glass Kentucky Straight Rye (Batch 2) The return of Elijah Craig and Larceny barrel-proof expressions Jacob's Pardon Collective Series — a 16-year-old whiskey finished in 50-year-old Oloroso sherry casks Upcoming limited releases from Old Forester, Chattanooga Whiskey, Boone County, and New Riff As always, Jim and Todd keep it real, sharing not just tasting notes but honest opinions about value, availability, and flavor. They also highlight Lost Lantern's growing influence in the craft whiskey space, with recurring praise for past favorites like Whiskey Acres. Whether you're a seasoned rye lover or a curious newcomer, this episode is packed with flavor, insight, and plenty of road-tested recommendations. Don't miss the bonus pour at the end — a surprise worth sticking around for. Bourbon on the Banks 2025 Smokeys Lifestyle Cigars The Hill House Bed and Breakfast Be sure to check out our private Facebook group, “The Bourbon Roadies” for a great group of bourbon loving people. You will be welcomed with open arms!
On the 255th episode of the GreatBase Tennis podcast, Steve Smith, Ilja Semjonovs, and Dave Anderson ask Dr. Tracey King questions. Currently, Tracey leads mental training skills for the Brookhaven program in Dallas, Texas.As a player, she was a top junior player who earned a Division I scholarship. She also played at the professional level and represented her native New Zealand in Fed Cup.She has a PhD in psychology. She completed her undergraduate studies at the University of Nevada, where she is in the University's Athletic Hall of Fame. She completed her master's studies at Kent and her doctorate work at Southampton, both English universities.She is also a tennis parent.One can contact Tracey by contacting the Brookhaven tennis program.
Recorded deep in the Toiyabe Range of central Nevada far from civilization, the guys talk about the Toiyabe Crest Trail project and the tumultuous arrival of summer in Lake Tahoe, where 11 people perished in a couple days due to a boating accident and hikers drowning in a swimming hole. The boys discuss complacency in the mountains and how it can be deadly, Trail Whisperer recaps his Wilderness First Aid training experience with Bliss Wilderness, Spooner Lake State Park puts out a survey for a new master plan, core lords call in to ask how you recover from a mountain bike accident, a rebuttal to DERPing UGG boots, saving wildlife you find in the backyard and if the ice cream man and his truck are DOPE or DERP. Also, Mind the Track announces its first piece of branded apparel for listeners to purchase! 2:30 – Recording on location in the Toiyabe Range of central Nevada, working on the Toiyabe Crest Trail. 5:35 – Jim Zellers and the early days of mountain biking in 1970s Cupertino, California.8:55 – Trail Whisperer's first time riding the Toiyabe Crest Trail in 2016.18:15 – Mind the Track swag is finally here! Our first piece of apparel – the Mind the Track Do All Adventure hat made by Deso Supply Co (desosupply.com)25:30 – Summer is here. The solstice has arrived. Post work steamy singletrack sundown rides and the deadliest day in Tahoe boating history?29:22 – Three hikers drowned at Rattlesnake Falls on the N. Fork American River. Juan Heredia – a free diver hero who retrieved the bodies.32:20 – Complacency is dangerous. Always be on guard in the mountains because Mother Nature rules.37:45 – Mono County Search and Rescue extracted a splitboarder who fell 1,000 feet off Mount Dana. 39:00 – Ebikes, bad ideas and what's healthier – no drinking and riding ebikes or drinking and riding mountain bikes?44:05 – Recap of Bliss Wilderness and his teaching of Wilderness First Aid and being a First Responder. 51:14 – Nevada State Parks survey for Spooner Lake State Park. Share your thoughts and ideas!Surveymonkey.com/r/spoonerlakebackcountry or email planning@parks.nv.gov . Survey closes July 20. 53:50 – Core Lord Call-Ins – Sean - @familysize – how do you go about rebounding from a crash on the mountain bike?1:00:48 – Nate – Another name for Tourists – COD – Careless, Odd and Dangerous. He vehemently disagrees with DERPing UGGs.1:05:45 – DOPE or DERP – Kellen on Insta – handguards on mountain bikes. 1:14:20 – DOPE or DERP – The Ice Cream Man and his ice cream truck. 1:17:40 – DOPE or DERP – Saving wildlife you find in your backyard. 1:24:05 – The ice cream power move at camp. What are your favorite camping power moves?1:26:30 – Shout out to Myles at Incline Spirits and Cigars in Incline Village.
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Eagle Royalties and Summit Royalty Corp have entered into a definitive amalgamation agreement in respect of a reverse takeover transaction pursuant to which Summit will go public by way of the takeover of Eagle. New drill results from Kenorland Minerals, NGEx Minerals, and Collective Mining. Kingfisher commences drilling at HWY37. Snowline announced the discovery of a new gold system at Cynthia. This episode of Mining Stock Daily is brought to you by... Revival Gold is one of the largest pure gold mine developer operating in the United States. The Company is advancing the Mercur Gold Project in Utah and mine permitting preparations and ongoing exploration at the Beartrack-Arnett Gold Project located in Idaho. Revival Gold is listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the ticker symbol “RVG” and trades on the OTCQX Market under the ticker symbol “RVLGF”. Learn more about the company at revival-dash-gold.comVizsla Silver is focused on becoming one of the world's largest single-asset silver producers through the exploration and development of the 100% owned Panuco-Copala silver-gold district in Sinaloa, Mexico. The company consolidated this historic district in 2019 and has now completed over 325,000 meters of drilling. The company has the world's largest, undeveloped high-grade silver resource. Learn more at https://vizslasilvercorp.com/Equinox has recently completed the business combination with Calibre Mining to create an Americas-focused diversified gold producer with a portfolio of mines in five countries, anchored by two high-profile, long-life Canadian gold mines, Greenstone and Valentine. Learn more about the business and its operations at equinoxgold.com Integra is a growing precious metals producer in the Great Basin of the Western United States. Integra is focused on demonstrating profitability and operational excellence at its principal operating asset, the Florida Canyon Mine, located in Nevada. In addition, Integra is committed to advancing its flagship development-stage heap leach projects: the past producing DeLamar Project located in southwestern Idaho, and the Nevada North Project located in western Nevada. Learn more about the business and their high industry standards over at integraresources.com
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Kiera is joined by Ryan Isaac of Dentist Advisors to dive into DSOs. They discuss such questions as: Are they the best financial choice for your practice? The best life choice? Are the horror stories true? And so many more. Episode resources: Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Transcript: Kiera Dent (00:00) Hello, Dental A Team listeners. This is Kiera and I am freaking jazzed for today's podcast. It has been way too long. Me and this guest talk quite often on like life and personal and business, but podcasting it's been a hot minute. I've got Ryan Isaac from Dentist Advisors, my personal advisor, one of my dearest friends. I think we're siblings in another life. Ryan, welcome to the show today. How are you? Ryan Isaac (00:07) Mm-hmm. Thank Thank you. I'm really good. just realized I was trying to hit mute and cough, but I hit like a chapter marker instead. So there you go. To your listeners or your ⁓ editing team, then there's a chapter marker while I'm coughing. So in your intro. Yeah. Tis the season. Kiera Dent (00:35) You're welcome. Yeah, that's fine. I'm okay with it. This is real life. We're sitting on, I mean, Ryan, you're sitting on the couch. I should get like my posh chair. I've been considering changing up my podcasting zone. Yeah, of course. All of us can see it. We're excited for that. Ryan Isaac (00:40) Hahaha Can I show you? Can I just give you a little vibe check here? I mean, it's actually, that's the ocean. I'm on a little summer getaway for a second. So yeah. Yeah. Kiera Dent (00:54) my gosh. That's amazing. So that's Ryan's life. Ryan's living his rich life over there. He's like truly. So, okay. If you're new to the podcast, Ryan is my personal advisor. Like truly he actually works on. We talk about my life. He's helped me make some really good decisions and not make some bad decisions. So I feel like financial advisors. My best advice is you gotta just find someone you trust. And I know Ryan is way more conservative than me, but cares about me as an individual so strongly. And Ryan, huge kudos to you. And so we talk about it a lot, but something we talk often is like, what's our rich life? And I remember Ryan for years, you were like living in your van, truly driving to California all the time to be by the beach, because you love surfing so much. So it just makes me so happy to see that you are living your best life by the ocean. You're doing what you teach all of your clients to do of living their version of a best life. Something that we try to do in dentistry and dental team too, like, hey, let's help your business provide you the best dream life you want. So that's Ryan. Ryan Isaac (01:36) Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, thank you. And there's no there's no right way to do that. I mean, everyone has their own thing that's worth the money or worth spending on. We're just kind of joking around about this, too. There are people who will sit in ⁓ small rentals or apartments on millions of dollars because to them having lots of security and liquidity is more valuable than houses or everyone's got something different. But, you know, we're all we're all chasing it, hopefully. Kiera Dent (01:57) Catch y'all. I think it's called the like emotional ROI and what helps you sleep at night in your financial world. So Ryan and I usually get on the podcast and we'll talk about finances. I mean, obviously dentist advisors, Ryan do a spiel. What is dentist advisors? Just so people know. I think you guys are financial advisors for dentists specifically. I'm not a dentist, but I can speak honestly, but a spiel. And then we're going to actually go like a hard left turn of what we're going to talk about today. Like really. Ryan Isaac (02:26) Ooh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Thank you. ⁓ Yeah, yeah, our on ramps coming up here really soon. We got to get over it. We got to get into the right lane. Dentist advisor started ⁓ almost A Team years ago now with me and Reese Harper. Shout out to Reese Harper. And yeah, we were dedicated to being ⁓ an independent fiduciary fee only ⁓ advisor for dentists to manage investments and give financial advice. Ultimately, Kiera Dent (02:51) Yep. Shout out to Reese. Ryan Isaac (03:17) you know, a dentist path through school and debt and taxes and all the stuff they go through, ⁓ you know, buying a practice, building businesses. There's no reason why all of that should not pay off every it should pay off for every dentist. There is enough money to be made in dentistry. And so our job really and you kind of said this with the you know, in the intro, ⁓ I really do feel like just protecting my clients, you know, and that's a philosophy that we've. built into our business. There's no reason why dentists shouldn't make it to the life they want and to the finish line financially. so, you know, ⁓ it's more about consistent, small, good decisions for long periods of time and avoiding like a few big mistakes that could derail you forever. So yeah, we have a custom financial planning process, ⁓ a lot of like reporting and data, and we just manage and track ⁓ dentist finances and make sure they end up in a good spot, safe and healthy and Happy, hopefully. Kiera Dent (04:15) which I love about you guys, Ryan, and I really think you guys do a great job. And this is something you've taught me. And we have a friend who said a great quote that I feel should be your quote. I can't give it like, so you can take it and like make your version. But they said like regular investing is like vanilla ice cream. It won't make anyone jealous, but it always tastes good. And I felt like that's such a great way to look at how you've taught me how to invest. ⁓ At the end of the day, it's just a small, consistent thing. So I think Dentist advisors does really well. And Ryan, something you've done for me. ⁓ Ryan Isaac (04:24) well. Okay, okay. Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. . Kiera Dent (04:44) Like it's so dumb, but I know you're watching me and I know like when I, like you're really not watching me, but I feel like you're watching me. Ryan Isaac (04:49) Yeah, well, let's hold that disclaimer here for a second. I see your numbers. I see your accounts. I see your emails. Every time you save money, I'm like, Kiera, good job in the email thread. Gold stars. Yeah. Kiera Dent (04:53) Like, I know he's not, like, he watches my account for sure. That's all it is. And I just know having Ryan there where I need to send it in every single month of what we're going to invest. We've talked about the plan has been such a game changer for me. So that's why I love Dentist Advisors. And like we said, we're now like taking our off ramp because Ryan and I want to talk about DSO sales. I think this definitely implies to a financial advisor. We have a lot of clients that we send to Dentist Advisors. We work such hand in hand with both sides. Like we love what you guys do. You love what we do. It's Ryan Isaac (05:19) Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (05:30) Truly like the best peanut butter and jelly sandwich or whatever your favorite. If you want this to be meat and cheese, peanut butter and honey, whatever it is, I think it's the best duo. Yeah, exactly. That is the best. Captain Crunch, but would you rather Captain Crunch or Reese's? Or. Ryan Isaac (05:37) Captain Crunch in 2 % milk, you know. No. I would actually say fruity or cocoa pebbles, to be honest with you. Or cinnamon toast crunch. Can we arrive there? Okay. Kiera Dent (05:52) We both disagree on that. So cool. Okay, can handle Golden Grahams or are we like back to the s'mores run? Remember the s'mores Golden Graham? Ryan Isaac (06:00) Yeah, I do remember the scores. How are we like not landing on the same one at all? What about honey butches of oats? Wow. Okay. ⁓ Kiera Dent (06:05) It's okay. That's fine. I'm not like the biggest serial fan and I go through phases. I love Lucky Charms, but I'm not joking. Those marshmallows give me the chills. Like I can't crunch into it without it being like full body chills. So I don't know. weird. But back on this. So we've actually had a lot of clients that are debating of do I sell? I sell to a DSO? And I'm like, talk to freaking Ryan. Ryan Isaac (06:18) Yeah, it's like biting Styrofoam. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. you Kiera Dent (06:32) I don't know what you want to do for your retirement. I have no clue how this is gonna impact you with your taxes. I don't know all the stuff, but what I do know is I'm a freaking miracle girl, so we're gonna get you top dollar for your cell, but like let's talk DSO. Cause also like DSO to not DSO, like I don't know Ryan, there's a million things. So let's Rift. You wanted to talk about this. I love this. Let's do it. Ryan Isaac (06:41) Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, and so you said something a few minutes ago about ⁓ dentist investments. And yeah, like our job is to help manage investment money for people ⁓ in a really long term kind of boring way, if we're being honest. But yeah, it's very yeah, it's just like it'll be there forever. Just let it do its thing. But the biggest investment any owner is going to have is their practice. And that is the thing Kiera Dent (07:08) vanilla ice cream ish. Ryan Isaac (07:18) is why you and a team is so important because the thing they should protect above everything is their practice investment, their business investment. There's nothing more impactful to a dentist's entire life and not just their money, but their entire lifestyle, probably their mental health, their wellbeing, where and who they spend their time with. So it is by far the most important factor in all of this. And so the world that we're in now is that DSOs are an option to sell to, to work with, to become a part of. They are in some shape or form, you know, supposed to become the majority of the industry in the future. I think that's a broad category. think the category is more like group practice will become the majority of the industry. I'd love to hear what stats you've heard and what you actually see. think people talk about, you know, 60 to 70 % consolidation in the industry. becoming some kind of DSO or group practice. ⁓ yeah. Kiera Dent (08:19) Yeah, I was actually at an AI conference with that just literally this last week. And they said that they're estimating 65 % of the market will become in the DSL world in the next like five to 10 years. So I think a lot of people are expecting, which is so funny to me because I remember, gosh, I think I was Mark, this is a long time ago, we were at the dental college. And so we're probably talking like, Ryan Isaac (08:32) Uh-huh. Yeah, okay. Kiera Dent (08:46) 2018, 2019, I remember talking to the students, like, what do you think is gonna happen? And I'm like, I know I'm unpopular, because even Mark wasn't on board with this. And I'm like, I think I'm unpopular, but I'm pretty confident DSOs will be the future. And they're like, you're full of it. They're like, there's no way. And I'm like, I mean, I'm not emotionally invested in this, but if I look at what's going on, my husband's in healthcare. This is what happened to pharmacies. This is what happened to mom and pop shops, like for medical. Ryan Isaac (08:57) Mmm. Yeah. Kiera Dent (09:14) I cannot think for one second the dentistry and with the EBITDA like offers that you're getting, it doesn't matter. And Jason, were talking about this the other night. I'm like, even if doctors want to have a legacy practice, that's great. You sell to this person, but this person now is younger. They have more debt and DSOs is like one bad day and this DSOs right on their doorstep. They're going to sell. Like it's just, I mean, you've got to some really strong guts around you to not think about a DSO. And I think DSOs, Ryan Isaac (09:42) Hmm. Kiera Dent (09:44) can often hit you at emotional times. Like Brian, you know me. There have been times that I told you like someone offered me a buck for Dental A Team, they could have it like one bad day. It's just like shirt. Like everybody has it in business ownership. So I think that that's where the DSOs are super attractive to people. But like I was talking to an office yesterday who's considering working with us and they're like have a one year buyout. And they're like, we're thinking about doing this DSO. And I was like, all right, but like what's your ultimate end game? What are you trying to achieve? Ryan Isaac (09:46) Mm-hmm. yeah. Yeah. yeah. We all have those days. Yeah. Kiera Dent (10:12) you met with other people to talk about DSOs, there are other options and he's like, well, it's too big for these partners to buy. I'm like, well, it's actually not like there's ways for partners to buy you out if you want. think it's just, DSOs feel like the easy button, but I don't know if they're really easy. And I think that that's where I'm a little bit on the fence and I'm super jazzed for us to rift on. Is it really the best financial choice? Is it the best life choice? I don't know, Ryan, you know, the finances more than I do. just. Ryan Isaac (10:14) It's on. Mm-hmm. Same. Yeah. Yeah. Kiera Dent (10:40) I do good job of helping people get their assets where they want them to be. So they have choices and options of what they want to do. Ryan Isaac (10:42) You do. Yeah, so I think, you know, it makes a lot of logical sense, especially the way it started with DSOs, that it would have gobbled up a lot of the industry. Hearing 70 % made a lot of sense to me. Maybe we're just in a dip in a lull, which we totally have become, we've entered into that because of the, you know, the debt and rate situation that happened over last few years in inflation and, you know, just interest rates. Money got really expensive. It was hard for a lot of companies to grow across a lot of industries. And, uh, but, and I, I'm, uh, I want to say these statistics correctly, uh, from smarter people than me in the DSO space. I think there's something like maybe, you know, 350 to 400 technical DSOs in the country right now. And I've heard in multiple sources that up to a third of them are in some kind of financial receivership right now. Meaning, and I know you've seen this with clients too. DSOs have grown and they purchase and they borrowed money and then rates hit them and they grew too fast. They went ahead of themselves and they defaulted. And ⁓ there are some major DSOs, huge ones that I did not ever think would happen that went into default that are going bankrupt that are changing ownership. ⁓ People are losing their equity money, they're not going to get their payouts. ⁓ And they're they don't own their practices anymore. I mean, there, we have some clients in that situation. So Yes to the consolidation in the future of that because of just that's the nature of economy sometimes in industries. And I don't know if it's going to hit 70. I don't know. It makes me wonder. ⁓ Those multiples are down a lot than they than they used to be. And they'll probably you know, they'll probably fluctuate, come back up a little bit more when money gets easier. ⁓ Kiera Dent (12:22) I don't know anything. Ryan Isaac (12:36) Also, I think people are getting a little bit wiser to it. Do you see this? I mean, let's say three to five years ago, it was the most exciting thing to get an offer sheet across your desk and be like, know, some multiple of you, but this is insane, I'm done. I do find people way more hesitant and not as excited about that number anymore. What have you seen with that when people see those initial numbers? Kiera Dent (12:47) Made it. think people are way smarter. think the grads coming out of school have been trained on business a lot more than say dentists 20, 34 years ago are trained and not to say dentists 20, 30 years ago weren't. I just think it wasn't like we weren't talking EBITDAs. You weren't selling like this. So you didn't there was no need for it. ⁓ And I think in the past, I think the reason people are more skeptical right now, Ryan, is because they're hearing the like horror stories coming through. So people are like, hold on. Maybe it's not as like Ryan Isaac (13:12) It's different. Yeah. Kiera Dent (13:28) rosy as it was. I honestly like DSOs might be a little bit of dentistry's dirty secret. Like there's a small piece of me feeling that way and not all DSOs I'm not here to blanket statement it, but I do think there's like, think the dentist is the one getting ripped off in the whole scenario. like, because Ryan helped me, this is where I, guys welcome. This is what Ryan and I used to talk about off camera, but I'm just going to like have the conversation here because I'm curious. So your clients, okay, so hold on. Ryan Isaac (13:43) Mm-hmm. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, huh? Kiera Dent (13:58) answer your question, no, they're not as excited about it. And also I think that they're being flooded with a bajillion offers. And so almost like overwhelm of who the heck do I have? Who do I trust? Who do I know? 400 DSOs out there. They're being bombarded every single day. I have heard dentists tell me they get four to five offers every single day of a DSO, which is why I'm like one bad day, you click open an email and like bottom, bottom, there you go. So I do think Bron and Man. Ryan Isaac (14:02) Yes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, you're done. Like, yeah, that's the buyer. Yeah, take it. Yeah. Kiera Dent (14:22) Brandon Moncrief with Dental Transitions is probably the smartest DSO man I've met and I think you and I have circled. He's really brilliant on like who he knows offers that you can get like he kind of knows how to navigate the DSO world of what you want, which I think is awesome. But what I'm curious on Ryan. Okay, so you said you have clients. So when you sell to a DSO, there's lots of different makeups of how they can do these deals for you. But let's say there's I think the most standard one I usually hear is they pay you about 50 % of your practice is worth like you're giving it to them. Ryan Isaac (14:24) Yes. Yeah, I still send people there. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (14:52) You also have them 50 % in equity in their business, hoping like with stock shares, hoping that it builds and that's like basically your payout. So it helps with tax. It helps with like future investments of the EBITDA. Those are the things that they're going to be dealing with. But my question is, so like your clients, they sold, they don't own their practices anymore. They're an associate there now ⁓ and they're getting paid. They don't have to do the management, billing's taken off of them, hiring, all that. But let's say these, so let's say I sold to Ryan Isaac DSO. Ryan doesn't have a DSO just for clarity, but let's pretend I'm dentist. We got to make sure I don't want him getting in trouble. He's a financial advisor. So Ryan doesn't have it. okay, we're selling, okay, lies. We're selling it to Captain Crunch DSO. All right, let's just go safe. Captain Crunch DSO. Captain Crunch buys me. I'm now, I got my 50 % payout. have 50 % equity in Captain Crunch DSO and I'm now working as a dentist there, but I don't own my practice anymore. Ryan Isaac (15:23) Yeah, just so we're clear here. Yeah, yeah. I've highly regulated. Yeah, might be in trouble for that. Kiera Dent (15:49) Captain Crunch DSO is growing, growing, growing. Everything's looking good. I've got my stock in it. Captain Crunch loses its funding. They go bankrupt. What happens to me? Because odds are they go bankrupt. Another like lucky charms DSO is going to come buy Captain Crunch. Like they get a penny, dollar. What happens to me as the dentist when Captain Crunch goes under, but then lucky charms comes to buy me. How does that work for me as a dentist? Ryan Isaac (16:02) Yeah. Yeah, I'm watching that happen right now with a gigantic national specialty DSO with some clients. And what has happened is that their equity money is likely gone. So they got their payout money. Kiera Dent (16:19) Mm-hmm. Even with Lucky Charms coming in to buy it. My equity money's gone because it was with Captain Crunch. Do you love that I did cereal for you? Ryan Isaac (16:28) Thank I love it. It's so good. And I'm trying to like, like who's more evil in this hierarchy, you know? Kiera Dent (16:35) I think Lucky Charms isn't more evil. Lucky Charms is one who capitalized. They saw a dill. They don't care about the dentist. I'm not saying that they don't, but it's like hungry, hungry hippos. One goes out, someone's going to come buy it all. That's what they're going to do. Ryan Isaac (16:37) Who's more well capitalized? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this would be such a good question for Brandon again, and I'll just second that every time someone has questions about deals, or they want to compare things, ⁓ or get to know the space a lot more, I send them to Brandon. So just find Brandon Monacree, if he's on all over the internet and all of our content. Yeah, there you go. So it depends on the structure of the deal. It depends on the fine print and the paperwork. ⁓ In the ones I'm seeing right now, these dentists Kiera Dent (17:04) dentaltransitions.com. Yeah, he's everywhere. Ryan Isaac (17:17) lot, their practices are not there. So their practices are still gone. And they likely are not going to they're definitely not going to get any return on their equity. Some of them depending on how early they got in might get their equity back or, or parts of their equity back. But a lot of it's just, you know, when another company when a big financial company comes in to save a bankrupt company, it's ruthless, you know, I mean, they're they're cutting and they're scrapping as much as they possibly legally can. they'll do that, of course, because that's good business for them. So what I'm seeing, and again, I'll just say that it's probably different in every single scenario of this. But what I'm seeing is one that happens. ⁓ These dentists are losing their practices, they're not getting any return on their equity money, and many of them probably won't even get their full equity back. Luckily, some of my clients that I'm thinking of were in early enough and the fine print of their deals was good enough that they're going to get some of their equity money back. Kiera Dent (17:48) course. Ryan Isaac (18:15) ⁓ that's it. They're done. So what really happened in that transaction was they got front loaded a certain amount of years of income, paid some taxes, paid off their debts and lost their practices and worked a job for three or four years at a very low salary compared to what they produce. ⁓ many of them got really burned out, bombed out, kind of lost their fire and spark for the work. ⁓ And they're back to square one. Some of them have enough money to be finished. What is interesting though is even the ones who have enough money to be finished are still contemplating starting or buying another practice where they can legally and doing like a really chill lifestyle two day a week thing. Really common. Other people will fully lose their equity. And in a situation, again, back to your point, a lot of people are Kiera Dent (18:54) and Ryan Isaac (19:05) Maybe it's not as excited about this. The multiples aren't what they were. Then they could come back. I don't know. A lot of people just say the longer this goes, the smaller the multiples will become, which is, yeah. No, we're definitely not. And so now we're talking about an offer where someone's coming to you to take away like your main, main asset, your cash cow, the biggest thing in your whole life. They're going to front load five or six years of income. You have to pay taxes and pay off your debt with that money first. Kiera Dent (19:13) which I would agree on that completely. I don't think we're half as high. Ryan Isaac (19:33) The deals that you mentioned, some are 50-50. I've seen them in thirds where it's like third buyout, third earn out where you have to keep producing and then a third equity. I've seen them 70-30, 60-40. They can really be any shape or size. ⁓ Yeah, but they're smaller. And so now we're talking about, you know, five or six years of front loaded income. You pay taxes, pay off your debt, and then you just hope that this company that bought you and essentially what's happening if you think about it. Kiera Dent (19:48) They really are. Ryan Isaac (20:02) You're taking like seven figures of money and you're putting it into a single stock. You're investing into a single stock and it's a very small privately held company. I know it feels safe and secure because it's your field, it's dentistry, know, all these things are, but you're taking seven figures of your money and you're putting into one single company where right now maybe up to a third of these companies are failing. Kiera Dent (20:08) Thank Ryan Isaac (20:30) It's not not a gamble, you know, and the whole kicker in all these deals, as you know, and your audience knows, Kiera is all in that equity piece. Everything else is just front loading your income for the next five or six years and taking away your ownership. And then, you know, really changing the nature of your career and your work. And it really does change people. It changes. And I'm not saying it's always for the worse, but it is change changes, teams changes, the patient experience changes, the culture and the vibe. Kiera Dent (20:34) huh. ⁓ huh. Mm-hmm. Ryan Isaac (21:00) And so if that one little equity piece does not pan out the way that they say it's going to, ⁓ you know, that's the part that everyone's kind of wising up to. And if you're under, let's say, your late 50s, if you're younger than your late 50s, I think it's becoming a tougher decision for people to make. in late 50s or above, it's kind of like, I'm done anyway in three or four or five years. Might as well get top dollar. even if the equity doesn't fully pan out all the way, it might be more than a private buyer. But even then, I've seen the math on a lot of things and like, it's close. And yeah, you've seen it all too. So yeah, it's tough. It's tough to watch the ones that fail. ⁓ Some of these, some of these, and you've probably seen, we're not going to name anybody, but you've probably seen them too. Huge practices, multi-location, huge DSOs that now... Kiera Dent (21:25) Mm-hmm. Agreed. Mm-hmm. Ryan Isaac (21:52) own these practices. And okay, here's a question for you. What do you think is going to happen, let's say 10 years down the road or longer, when all these DSOs have been bought by the next company and been bought by the next company? And then in the end, some like third and fourth party removed private equity firm, international private equity firms holding 10s of 1000s of dental practices around the country? What is that like in the industry? mean, you're in the practice as you know that you're like in the heartbeat of that. What does that mean for the industry? What does that feel like? Does it feel weird? Kiera Dent (22:27) It does feel weird. And I think this is where I've been, I don't know, Ryan, you know me. just sit over here and think of ideas all day long. I've been like, how can we like, hi, I'm Kiera. I live in Reno, Nevada right now. It's like, how can some, I feel like I'm like Dorothy in Kansas right now. It's fine. It wasn't the destination, but it ended up being, it's fine. It's got really great. No state income tax. All right. That's really one of the main reasons we're here. It's not. Ryan Isaac (22:42) I like to write now by the way. Just a little shout out. like to write now. Yeah. Loud and clear. Yeah. Yeah, fine. It's pretty in some seasons. There you Kiera Dent (22:55) But it's okay. We have Lake Tahoe. ⁓ Ryan Isaac (22:55) go. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Kiera Dent (22:59) But only half of Lake Tahoe because California owns the other half. So it's okay. But I've thought about it. like, how can, like, it's like I'm Dorothy in Wizard of Oz right now. It's like, how can we somehow influence these private equity firms? And there might be no way. But these are the questions I think of often, because I do think if we're not careful, it will radically shift the way dentistry is done. And it will turn into a business rather than into our Ryan Isaac (23:02) Yeah, you're half. Okay. Kiera Dent (23:24) our healthcare profession. I mean, I look at modern medicine, my husband's in it and it is a freaking drill machine. Like his number one thing was patient productivity and they had to have so many patients, otherwise they were going to fire providers. And their providers worked hard. They weren't getting paid what they like want to get paid. And so I'm actually watching in healthcare, lots of my friends in healthcare, nurse practitioners, doctors branch off and go open up their own practices because they're sick of working in modern medicine. So I'm like, Ryan Isaac (23:24) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kiera Dent (23:51) if we can look at modern medicine and see how the healthcare system has been working and how can we do something now as like you said, third, fourth remove private equity, owning all these dental practices, like is there a path? And I don't know, right? Like this is I feel like I'm like Dorothy sitting in Kansas of like how on earth can we influence it? But I'm like, if enough brilliant people start thinking this way, what can we do now to show that you can be profitable and ethical and still give great dentistry where we're not having to like, Ryan Isaac (24:08) Hmm. Yeah. Kiera Dent (24:21) not running it like a private equity business, but still showing. so Britt was like, we need to become the Wegmans. Like, have you been like up north, like Wegmans is an amazing grocery store. They're not the biggest, but they still are ethical. And I'm like, if we even had a few private equity that's third and fourth removed that would still run practices that way, I think dentistry would still feel the same. Something else though, that I think of like new dentists coming in that I think is really paramount is you've got to look at the future of the industry. I think the current doctors, Ryan Isaac (24:39) Mm-hmm. Kiera Dent (24:50) that have been in dentistry have like safeguarded and kept dentistry like we're healthcare when we want to be and we're not healthcare when it doesn't benefit us. Like we literally have straddled the spine line. It's still a little bit of the wild wild west dentistry is not as regulated as far as like our fees and like what we're able to charge in every single practice and like insurance is schmuck. get it. But I'm like, you also only have $2,000 of max most of the time that we're dealing with rather than it being like a hundred percent of what your patient base is and like what the patients are paying out. So I'm like, Ryan Isaac (25:11) Yeah. Kiera Dent (25:19) I feel the pioneers of dentistry have actually done a really good job of setting it up to where dentistry is still very profitable. It's still able to be its own thing that I'm like, let's, again, I feel like I'm like Dorothy sitting on my soap box in the middle of prairie fields and saying like, hey, why don't we take a pause and just think of like, what's the future of dentistry as now the future pioneers of dentistry? And what are we going to do to our profession? Yes, there's top dollar. Yes, there's things about it, but is there a way to influence? and make sure that the integrity of dentistry can maintain long-term. I have no answer to that, but again, this is Kiera Dent sitting on my podcast where I think that there is a voice and an influence and like on Dentist Advisors podcast, is there a way that we can influence our industry in ways that will protect and still pay out? Because I'm like, even if you don't get the 10X EBITDA, you still can get a freaking great payout if you do your life right to where you can be financially set up. Ryan Isaac (25:51) Mm-hmm. ⁓ Kiera Dent (26:17) still be able to sell your practice, not have to sell it in ways that could potentially hurt the industry. I'm not saying one's the right answer or the wrong answer. There's no judgment on my side. It's just, let's maybe think and consider how it could influence. Can we get people that could be private equity higher up that could help protect it? Those are things that, and again, I'm just Kiera Dent here in Reno, Ryan Isaac (26:22) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Same, okay. Okay. Yes. Kiera Dent (26:38) Yeah, of course. And for everyone listening, thank you for listening and we'll catch you next time. Ryan Isaac (26:37) Thank you. Kiera Dent (26:42) the Dental A Team Podcast.
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You got to trust that more than anything. And sometimes you can't get there until you fail your assLesley Logan 0:13 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56 Be It babe, this is for you. This episode is for you. I mean, they're all for you, but this one I've been waiting for since the day I met this man. I was like, no way, no freaking way. This is real. And it is real because, and the reason I know is because I, before I met this guy, have been trying to do this with my business and going through some of the hoops that do it. And I think he just made it even easier. So Matthew Lesko is our guest. He is a wonderful, brilliant, hilariously honest man with so much love, and he is all the websites, all the keys, all the kingdom to helping you get the money assistance you need, like free money. But then He even tells you how you can get better money. So I know that that can sound like an infomercial. I know that they can sound like it's too good to be true. I promise you that, like, you do have some hoops to jump through, but I want you to get I want you to have everything you need. And I know some of you have debt that's holding you back, or you need money to make this idea happen, or you need the job training to make this idea happen. And literally, in this episode, he's gonna give you URLs that could help you do that. And if you want accountability community, he has that for you as well. So Matthew Lesko is our guest. You're gonna, you're gonna want to have a pen and paper for when he starts doing these, but we'll have the links in the show notes, so just check the show notes. All right, thank you, Matthew Lesko, you're amazing. Y'all, here he is. Lesley Logan 2:14 All right, Be It, babe. I am super excited. First of all, if you're not watching this on YouTube, you're gonna want to see the man that's in front of me, because he has never let me down the two times I've seen him. He has the best suits on, the best glasses on, the most gorgeous hair. Matthew Lesko, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Matthew Lesko 2:36 Matthew Lesko, what I rock at? Boy, I just struggle. That's what rocking is. Man, it takes work to get through this shit, you know, everybody thinks there's some formula. No, there's no formula. You're guessing your ass off every day and hoping something works. The only thing you need is energy to do stuff, because the more stuff you do, because any, any that you get some plan about what to do in life, and that's not going to work, don't worry about it. But you could try maybe a little bit there you could do, but you got to figure your own shit out. And, but help could help you, just at least get you a little bit on the way. But, yeah, that's what it is. We all struggle and the experts want to make a lot of money to try to convince you they know the secret to life. Now they don't know what the fuck to do with their own life, you know. And so maybe you can claim little items to open your mind a little bit more. But really, life is trying something and failing. It's, it's like, if you're going to do something new in life, that's like learning to walk, you know, or learning to ride a bike, you're going to fall on your ass a lot. That's, what I think here is your loved ones are your worst enemy, because they say, don't do that. You're going to fail. Yes, you are. You're going to run into big bumps in the road. You're going to fail at something, and you just keep fucking going because you want to do that. So that's why key in life is not knowing exactly what to do, because nobody really knows, and you have to figure that out. That's a trial and error. And what you have to do is you use your brain as little as possible. Follow your heart as much as you can. I mean, you got to have the brain part, you know, so you don't fall off a cliff and do something really fucking stupid. But the way to get anything done is your heart has to be in it. I mean, whether it's professional life or personal life, man, if your heart and soul is not there, you're not going to make it happen, because it's going to be a pain in the ass, and you're going to leave on the second time it's a pain in the ass, or maybe the third.Lesley Logan 4:45 Yeah or some people the first time because they think it should be easier. Or, like, I've heard people say, oh, this is a sign I'm not supposed to do it. It's like, no.Matthew Lesko 4:55 That's a sign you're human. Lesley Logan 4:56 Yeah. I mean, like, like, everyone has obstacles. I really appreciate this honesty. Thank you so much, because it's true. Like, you know, while we're doing this, my husband's actually talking to some business owners that we're hoping to coach, and we tell them, they're like, okay, well, what's the template like? In six weeks how much money am I going to make? And then we're like, anyone who's telling you that there's a template (inaudible) yeah, like this, because they've had so many good business coaches tell them, oh, follow this plan, you'll have 100k launch. You'll have this da-da-da but like that doesn't that's not how it works, because the amount of time you can put into this brilliant idea that you're passionate about is very different than the person next to you. The amount of money you're coming into this brilliant idea with is very different, and then also the life that's around you, or if you have an audience for this idea already, or you have to build it first, like, you can't, don't, I was, like, the quickest thing to know that someone's lying to you is if they have a plan. Because, like, like, I what's the thing? Like, you have a plan and God laughs, or something like that. Like, like, you know, it's just, but it doesn't mean that there's not options or ideas or good things that are out there. It's just that, I think people think, if I buy the plan, and that's going to be the thing, that's going to get me there, as opposed to starting with what you said, which is, like, do you really want to do it? Are you that passionate about it that you'll do it even if you fail? Matthew Lesko 6:18 Right, because you are going to fail. I mean, there are going to be bumps in the road, reasons to not go forward, and that's when people quit, and then they try something else and they try something else, and that's why, even on a, personally, for your heart, I mean, my rule of thumb is your heart is smarter than your brain. You got to trust that more than anything. And, and sometimes you can't get there until you fail your ass off, then there's nothing left. And, and you know that you're special, but you have to find out what you're special in. That's the problem. We go to classes and experts and, and tell us, they're just giving you a clue they don't know, because we're all so different. I mean, you're a rose and I'm a petunia, you know? And how are you going to make a petunia into a rose? Lesley Logan 7:13 And then everyone tries to treat each other like they're a tulip, and no one wants to be taller than the other, right? But you're really a rose and a petunia in a tulip field. Okay, so you Matthew, I feel like you are like coming into our ears today and like giving us true honesty, but also like you clearly lived a life. You've got this gorgeous white hair, you lived this life and also, I don't think anyone like knows how to say this, the way that you're saying it, with so much honesty and love, unless you've, like, lived through lives like you've lived through. Because, you know, it takes time, it takes time to (inaudible) so tell, can you tell us all about how you got, like, what you did before you became a petunia who's bestowing us in all this honesty?Matthew Lesko 8:00 I, god, I'm 81 years old. Can't remember that far, but I do it, really struggled, I mean, I was never good at anything. You know, that's why I just adore artists, because they know what the fuck they have to do, you know, but if you can't sing, dance or whatever, and you don't know what you're really supposed to do every day, and the rest of us have to figure that out. But the longer I do that, the more I see, yes, we all are artists like that is something we have to get up the morning, and there's something inside of us that possesses us to do something because you feel it's important, because you feel it's helping somebody, like now, at 81, I work harder now than ever before. It's not work. I haven't worked in 50 years, and part of, it's having fun in the process. So what I was doing, I was getting I am failing through college and all that kind of thing. When in Navy, I was a naval officer, ship driver, came back, that was Vietnam, and I got an MBA, started businesses that were failing. I had a software company in the 70s that was failing. I was, like, computer science professor, starting another business that failed, a bunch of failures. And I started looking, wow, I'm failing, not having fun, and I'm doing all this shit that maybe in 30, 40, years from now, I'll have fun, and that's crazy. I'm not having any fun, and I'm not successful at it. And so what I did is sort of finally flipped it around. Have fun today, because when you start having fun, you know that's a little contagious. Then also, if you're doing something that you feel you're having fun at, you'll work harder at. You hate playing basketball, but you love golf. You'll be on the golf course still, they have to drag you off, you know. And that's, so, that's what happened. That's how you really learn, that's how you really grow. You're into something you want to be there no matter what and then when I start doing that, then, and I think the other thing is, I find I had to, you have to look inside, you know, help may or may not be have outside, but you really have to be aware of what's inside you listen to that inside you, because that's really the important stuff that's going to come out, and it's hard to listen to it, because we don't, none of us know what the hell to do in life. We're all guessing you know and there's no empathy for that, because the people, coaches, you have to pretend, you know so you could charge a lot of money for what you're guessing about, you know, because that's what people want to hear. You know, unfortunately. Lesley Logan 10:58 Yeah, I think, well, if people are afraid to take risks, because, I mean, you know, you know, you've lived a whole life. Like, if you take, if you are putting your own money into something as an idea and it fails, the the bills don't care, right? Like, they don't care. So, like, you know, like, something that I had someone say, like, there's like, six needs that we all have as humans, certainty and uncertainty. Matthew Lesko 11:30 I thought you said sex needs. Lesley Logan 11:31 Sex needs yes, yes, yes, yes. Six needs. Certainty, uncertainty, love and connection, I think one of them has to do with like, uh, significance, excuse me, it's like power, that you mean something, then we also need growth and contribution. The growth and contribution are more like choices. The other four you like, are like, really needs. And I think, like, a lot of us don't want to take a risk on the thing that's on our heart that we know we're supposed to do unless we have certainty that it won't fail, because this job over here that we hate is paying the bills.Matthew Lesko 12:12 Well, to me, you have to do both. You have to be responsible to yourself and the bills and everything and then any waking hour extra you have is to concentrate on finding out what that is inside you. Because if you don't do that, you know it's just life is so much harder. And boy, 81, I am so fucking happy now. I can't believe it. And for I never do, like, live so long, and I didn't know maybe this time I'll have this much fun. I mean, I say, god, if I knew being 81 was this much fun, I would have gotten here a lot fucking earlier, man, why did I wait so long? Lesley Logan 12:59 You are amazing. Because my dad is 72 and I'm like, oh, and he's like, now, like, older than any of the men in his family, right, that have ever lived. And so, like, where it was like, let's get him to 70 like, the whole like, let's get a 72 no one's ever made it to 72 like, let's see. And I was like, you're gonna live to 100 you better watch out. He goes, I don't want to live to 100 but, like, I think clearly the difference is attitude, like you were like, you had that idea, like, have fun today, and now, clearly, and being it till you see it of have fun today, you're having so much fun at 81 you're like, I should have gotten here faster. Matthew Lesko 13:33 Well, another thing that's really happened just last few a years too, is that most of men and your dad's 10 years younger than me or whatever. At least my life, most of it was trying to get stronger, faster, smarter. Well, at 80, none of that shit is going to get better. All that's going downhill. But what I figured out just a couple years ago, more so, is that I could love harder. Now there's one thing I get harder at any age. I could just love harder. And in my generation, I don't know if your dad's the same way. I couldn't even say that word unless they married you.Lesley Logan 14:14 Right, right. No, I think, literally, I don't think he says he loves anyone except for his kids right now.Matthew Lesko 14:20 Never heard it from my family even. And you know what changed me a lot were lesbians. I live in an apartment building here, 70, a lot of cool people, younger people, usually. And there was a woman next to us (inaudible) we really got close and that she she's my gateway drug to saying I love you to a woman, it was safe. Lesley Logan 14:44 Yeah, because it didn't mean anything, she didn't care, like she loved being loved, but didn't take it the wrong way. That's so funny. I know it's really true. Like I like one of my girlfriends, I just rung on the phone the other day, and she had, like, her father passed, and, you know, we end every phone call I love you. And like, you know, I think, yeah, yeah, well, we, you know, we can change it. I, okay. So you are full of so much information. So as far as like, I mean, you are giving us so many good gems, and we can all love harder, but you actually are, I think maybe, like, you actually are, like, the person who helps people. You are an expert in helping people get, get money. So how did, how did you get here? And what are we talking about? Because, like, I when I met you and you told me this, I was like, no freaking way. But then I said that about Pilates, and now I'm a Pilates instructor, so I it's my it's like my sign when I go, no fuck no way, no fucking way. That's like some be it. No way. No one can do that. So can you tell us a little about, like, what you do when you're not just loving on people?Matthew Lesko 15:54 It is, by accident, again, my business has failed, and so what you do is become a consultant. So I have a consultant, like a researcher at the time, back in 70s, for Fortune 500 companies that wanted to do stuff, and I was in Washington, so they wanted to get money to start businesses and buy companies and find out the market for stuff. So I was in Washington, and I'd get I'd go around Washington and find help for them, and offices that give you money, offices that give you free reports on the markets for anything like I did one for Procter & Gamble on pasta, and I found a pasta expert in Washington who just spent a million dollars on some study on what's the good and bad about pasta business, and who makes money and where to get money. And so I take that stuff, and I take the government's name off of it, put my name on it, because nothing in the government is copyrighted, and I thank the department or whatever, and sell it to them for thousands of dollars. They loved it, millionaires, and that's why I saw I was making billionaires out of millionaires. I said, why does the average person know about it? Well I said I want to people. And that was my first successful business. So I was, you know, very happy with that. And but then to reach people on the street had to do with books. I couldn't charge $20,000 to do that. And so then to sell books and through publicity and doing talk shows and stuff like that. And I've been doing that for a long time, but what I see, see anybody can use it, the government, see, 40% of everything in our economy is our organizations that give you free money to solve a problem, whether it's you know, you need money to get out of debt. You need money to get rid of your your bills as an expense. You need money to start a business. You need money to get an education or get a better job. You need money to buy a house or fix up your house. You need money for I was anything you want. Is there health care, free, legal help? It's all in the government we I was finding government grant the other day for you want to buy out your boss. You know, $250,000 they'll give you in this is Colorado. To do that. Wisconsin will give you $250,000 just start a business as long as you stay there 15 years.Lesley Logan 18:25 What? I didn't know about Oklahoma. I think there was like a thing where Oklahoma City was trying to get people to move there. So you would get, (inaudible) you got like, $20,000 put down on a place to live in Oaklahoma City and then they would give you $10,000 a year. And I was like, and you had to, and all you had to do was stay for two years, so and then you could rent the house out, or whatever. And I was like, two years, and I could own a property in Oklahoma City, then I could rent it out, like I work for myself. Am I interested? And like, going back to your heart, like my heart wasn't in it. So I was like, that sounds like it's not enough money for me. But like that, I did know about that, so I didn't realize, like, Okay, this is so cool. So, like, all these states have different stuff. You just have to know it exists. The government has this. I think we all just have to, like, can we just, like, take a brief moment we are recording this two months into a shit show. Is there still gonna be money for all of us. Matthew Lesko 19:21 Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, this is more show business that's going on for the average person. It's all still there. The downside, if all that still works, none of his stuff is legal yet. He just does it and wait till somebody stops him and but what's important is that, can you go online now? Let me show you something. Okay, okay, go on to findhelp.org.Lesley Logan 19:52 findhelp.org okay. Matthew Lesko 19:55 Right. Okay findhelp.org. Put in your zip code. I don't know what Vegas is, what's the OE on your hand? Lesley Logan 20:04 Oh, it's part of my hand my other hand tattoo. The other half is my husband and and it, and it, he has the LV, so it's the love tatoo. He's from Philly. There we go. We're in. We're in. You're so smart Matthew. You're like, okay, it didn't like, it doesn't like a VPN. So everyone, when you go to this, turn off your VPN, which is kind of like Hulu, doesn't like your VPN either. Okay, so I put in my zip code. Okay, there are 2738 programs in Las Vegas, Nevada. Matthew Lesko 20:38 So anyways, 2700 programs, those programs are all from nonprofit agencies or government offices. That means they all give you money or free help. None of them will never charge you a nickel for what they have. The government gives an average of $18,000 to every adult through programs like this every year, and that's me. And so you have, what, 1800 of them. And so, like, if you. Lesley Logan 21:02 2700 of them, yes, yes.Matthew Lesko 21:04 2700 yeah, incredible. I mean, and that's for anything. Look at the tabs on top. Lesley Logan 21:13 Yeah, there's tabs for food. There's, uh, which, like, which, when you tab on that, it has, like, community gardens, emergency food, food pantries, meals, housing, there's 22 things in housing, goods, there's a ton of stuff in goods, transit, they'll help you buy bus passes, health, money.Matthew Lesko 21:36 Oh, up in the there's the little search bar on the left hand side, on top, put in financial assistance.Lesley Logan 21:44 Okay, here we go. Matthew Lesko 21:45 How many you have there? Lesley Logan 21:50 This? It's showing me 791 pages, and there's 10 listings on each page. That's 7000.Matthew Lesko 22:02 Those people are there to give you free financial assistance. Most of us, well, we got to go to the bank, or we got to rob a 7/11 yeah and that's the options people don't know. That's why I think Google is ruining our country, because everyone's going to Google, and you can't find these in Google because they don't advertise.Lesley Logan 22:24 Right and they're not doing the SEO game. They're not, they don't have time for that. So yeah. Thank you for explaining that because I was just thinking, like, oh, I just like, you know, a couple years ago, my husband and I were trying to get a business loan for our business to help grow it. And we, of course, went to our bank, and we banked with since the dawn of my business, and I've always made more money every year. And they're like, no, you don't get any money from us because you're so small we don't care about you. So then I Googled, like, small business and like, like, nothing, except for all these banks and credit you like, these people don't want me. I'm not banking with them. We had to, like, we actually went to a wee bank event, and that's how my husband found someone who wanted to, like, invest in our business. But, like, this is really cool. So this, like, okay, but like, really, Matthew, so, like, a lot of this, there's stuff for people, like, for housing, so well, I can, there's one I'm saying, like, for people who have babies in NICU, this is amazing. So like, can I find financial assistance for my idea, for my business idea, or is it like?Matthew Lesko 23:26 No, not there, though, let me show you another website. Okay, okay, sba.gov/local-assistance. Lesley Logan 23:38 I see it. Okay.Matthew Lesko 23:41 Local hyphen assistance. You get there, after (inaudible) and there's a place (inaudible) your zip code.Lesley Logan 23:49 Yes, there is. And you can put a distance. And I'm just going to keep it small. Let's see. (inaudible)Matthew Lesko 23:54 Most of this stuff is remote anyway, so it doesn't matter where they are. Lesley Logan 23:57 Yeah, there's, like, it's telling me about the main off, the Las Vegas this, like, the SBA of Las Vegas is, like, down the street from my house.Matthew Lesko 23:59 Many other places that usually the non-SBA are better.Lesley Logan 24:10 Okay, there's, yeah, there's a just in, in, in 25 miles. Looks like I have about 15 options to go through. So, and that's like, that's just like in the like, that's just like the county, yeah. Matthew Lesko 24:25 Every one of them are people that are there to help you find money and help you need to start or expand anything. So the best way to do it, and the way you do this, to me, my advice is to call and make appointments with as many as you can. Everybody has different ideas about how to do things and whatever, and different sources and all that kind of stuff, but they're all there to help anybody who calls to start their business help you find money. Help you find technical help, legal help. Help you do your taxes, all for free, and it's or strategize for strategy. And one of the things I think is best, too, for someone like you, you're you're providing help to people as a service that see if the the government buys that service, what's better from the government is not a grant, is really a contract that you get a government contract, you know, to sell your services to the government, or from a what they do, they spend a lot of money teaching people how to start a business. So like at your what's called the career one-stop center. You go, that's another thing for getting a job or things like that, or even starting a business. And they, they, they pay people to train people to help start a business, so you could be a contractor for somebody like that. Contracting is better than any kind of grant, because you get that forever (inaudible).Lesley Logan 26:01 Yeah, yeah. I am. We actually, in the last year, been working on certifying our business, because, like, there's some contracts that you're more likely to get if you're certified women-owned business or things like that. But like, I got to, like, look for some of these contracts, like websites for that, and it is insane how many, like, how many government contracts are wanting to use, like, they're like, we need like, like, the military is like, hey, we have a ton of people who want to do the military, and they are not in shape. So the military is looking for Pilates instructors or trainers or nutritionists to just help them with this problem they have. And like the truth is, is that most of us don't know these things exist, and we're the ones who's got the passion.Matthew Lesko 26:47 Let me show you the best place for that. Now you could use what I just gave you, and they would help you. There's a better place. It's called Apex Accelerators A-P-E-X and then I, I will screw it up if I try to spell accelerator.Lesley Logan 27:04 It's okay Apex Accelerators I know, it's one of those words.Matthew Lesko 27:06 Yeah, and then, but dot U-S. Lesley Logan 27:09 Okay. Matthew Lesko 27:10 Now that's, that's a free service that just specializes in helping people get contracts.Lesley Logan 27:16 Wow. Well, that's even more fun because then I don't have to learn how to do it. Matthew Lesko 27:21 Exactly, right. Lesley Logan 27:23 Because it can be a lot, oh my gosh, this is insane. You guys, you could put your zip code in, okay, and it says, find an apex accelerator near you. And guess what? There is, there's, there's one like, it looks like it's right, oh my gosh. It's like down the street from my it's like down the street from my house. (inaudible) Yeah, make an appointment. Okay, so, okay, Matthew, this is amazing. First of all, you gave us more than I expected. Uh, how do you do this? What do you, why? But why, why help all of us? Matthew Lesko 28:03 You just showed me why? Look at your excitement. Boy, if I could do that to somebody that is just the nicest feeling in the world, yeah, I mean, like, wow. I mean, to a human that could react to something I know, and that's like, you know, my pair of socks or something, I don't even think I know it, but when I see you and you see us, that joy and that smile, that that I could do that to human at 81 that's pretty special. Lesley Logan 28:41 Wow. Well, then you're welcome. I promise you. Right now, Matthew, my husband, is listening to me, listening to this for the replay. So when he listens to that part, he's gonna he, that's what he's gonna say. He's gonna go my wife, and he's gonna shake his head, she's so humble. Okay, we're gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out how people can work with you on this, because I have a feeling that, like there's ways like that they could work more with you on this. Lesley Logan 29:09 All right, Matthew, because you just gave us, and this is really great, but I actually do think that, like, do you have a group or a place that people can get ongoing help? Because obviously you're not a recurring guest here, so they can re-listen to this episode for those, like, really amazing mantras you've given us. But like, how else can they get, can they work with you?Matthew Lesko 29:40 A survey that, it took me many years to figure out how I could create income. I like paying for my own way, and after people start buying reference books with the computers and website, it took me a while, but and so I started a newsletter, and then what it turned into is a community. So I have a community now of 15,000 people that help each other get these programs. See, and I only charge $20 I didn't want to charge thousands like I did. I want to get the information to people who really need this. Otherwise, helping millionaires become billionaires was really boring. The millionaires aren't much fun. All they care about is money and not much of the heart is there, but people who really need it is more satisfying. So this is only $20 I charge for everything. Unlimited help for $20 because members help. Like today, we'll have four or five Zoom calls with members asking question as taking questions on how they got the money. So you have actually members how they got it, and they share it with you, and it became so profitable I can't really fathom too much is that we give out our own grants. We give out about 40% of all our money goes back to members and grants. So we give out like, $40,000, $70,000 every month back to members. Yeah, and four different kind of grants and, and that's, I mean, I really feel cool. Lesley Logan 31:17 I mean, you're a badass, you're really cool, but you're like, a bad ass. You're like, you're like, it's like, not even Robin Hood, because you're not taking from bad people. You're like, actually, like, good people are paying in to help good people.Matthew Lesko 31:30 Whatever it is. It seems like I thought you had to be Jeff Bezos or his ex-wife or something like that, to be able to do this, to give up, but it is and that's, I never thought I'd be able to do that. And that's really satisfying.Lesley Logan 31:46 Well, this is, I mean, thank you. We're gonna put the links to your group and everything below, because the thing that I think keeps people from being it till they see it is oftentimes the affordability of it. Like they get stuck in that. As a business owner, I have always reinvested in my business, but like the ability to grow it required some capital, because you can't risk the savings account. And the IRS might not go after Jeff Bezos, but he certainly comes after me, so I have to pay my bill, you know, I can't go, oh, it's coming. I just, I'm doing a thing. I tried something new. So it when I had a bank go, hey, here is this with this really, really, mine's not even free money. But you, you're talking about free money. Like, I actually have been able to grow my business, and we haven't touched the money. Just like having it there meant that we could, like, be a little riskier, and it's paying off, you know, so, like, I just so I just know how impactful it's been for me. And, my goodness, if I knew this 10 years ago, like, I think we'd be in a different place. But I'm so grateful I got to meet you today. You have given us so much, some are great talks. But I love to end every episode with bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Matthew Lesko 33:00 Well, I mean is, if you want to do an idea, say, if you want to start a nonprofit, you want to start a business, you want to start a business at your home. You want to be a freelancer. You have an invention to work on, you go to that sba.gov/ and then local if an assistance, and you make an appointment. You make an appointment 1, 2, 3 or whatever, and you have to do that. Everybody wants to fill out an application and wait for the money. You can't do that because you don't know the application to fill out. You got to get experts and talk to experts who help people like you every day. And they're available for free, but they're not in Google. You can't use that. So you go, if it's for professional you go to sba.gov/localassistance. If it's for education or job training, you go to careeronestop.org that's another clearing house, and you put in your zip code to find a counselor to tell you about government money programs to help you train for a better job, so you want to get a skill to make better money, and things like that. They'll help you with that. Okay? And then if you have financial problems, you go to hud, hud.gov/counseling H-U-D for hud.gov/counseling and you put in your zip code there, and you get a free financial counselor sit down and work out your debts, your bills and all that stuff, so you don't carry that burden in the back of your head forever and get that, get that monkey off your back, And they'll do all that for free.Lesley Logan 34:42 Oh, my God. Matthew Lesko, thank you. Thank you. I, like, I love, like, seven different people for each one of those email addresses. Like, it's in my, just in my, like, phone, my contacts, and so, um, you guys, I know you're gonna share this with a friend. I know you are because, like, I think what I do hear people going, it can't be that easy. It's not going to be easy. I'm sure you're going to have to fill out paperwork, you have to make these appointments, you have to get the steps. But it's there, it's there, and because so few people will take the steps and do the thing like you're you're not in a huge competition. So you know what, babe, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Thank you, Matthew Lesko. Go check out his group. Go check out what he's doing, and then report back. Let us know what you were able to do with it. Let us know what, what, what grant you did or what website you did, or how it helped your friend. Because I think it'll make Matthew Lesko's day.Matthew Lesko 35:37 Let me see a smile. Lesley Logan 35:37 Yeah, y'all, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 35:43 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 36:26 It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:30 It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 36:35 Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 36:42 Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 36:45 Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Almost 200 new laws go into effect Tuesday, what you need to know. Plus, a new study states Nevada's home vacancy rate is lower than the nationwide rate. And if you're still cementing your 4th of July plans, we have some food and drink specials you may want to consider. Watch 7@7 on any of your favorite streaming platforms weekdays at 7 a.m and 7 p.m.
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Danny in Long Island NY tells Mark that we have to give it up to Zohran Mamdani, for displaying how his characteristics and personality is. It's showing up big time as he is trying to become the Mayor. Vincent in Brooklyn NY called Mark to tell him he had a second phone call with Mara from Nevada, and it was a wonderful call!
Danny in Long Island NY tells Mark that we have to give it up to Zohran Mamdani, for displaying how his characteristics and personality is. It's showing up big time as he is trying to become the Mayor. Vincent in Brooklyn NY called Mark to tell him he had a second phone call with Mara from Nevada, and it was a wonderful call! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This episode of Mining Stock Daily is brought to you by... Revival Gold is one of the largest pure gold mine developer operating in the United States. The Company is advancing the Mercur Gold Project in Utah and mine permitting preparations and ongoing exploration at the Beartrack-Arnett Gold Project located in Idaho. Revival Gold is listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the ticker symbol “RVG” and trades on the OTCQX Market under the ticker symbol “RVLGF”. Learn more about the company at revival-dash-gold.comVizsla Silver is focused on becoming one of the world's largest single-asset silver producers through the exploration and development of the 100% owned Panuco-Copala silver-gold district in Sinaloa, Mexico. The company consolidated this historic district in 2019 and has now completed over 325,000 meters of drilling. The company has the world's largest, undeveloped high-grade silver resource. Learn more at https://vizslasilvercorp.com/Equinox has recently completed the business combination with Calibre Mining to create an Americas-focused diversified gold producer with a portfolio of mines in five countries, anchored by two high-profile, long-life Canadian gold mines, Greenstone and Valentine. Learn more about the business and its operations at equinoxgold.com Integra is a growing precious metals producer in the Great Basin of the Western United States. Integra is focused on demonstrating profitability and operational excellence at its principal operating asset, the Florida Canyon Mine, located in Nevada. In addition, Integra is committed to advancing its flagship development-stage heap leach projects: the past producing DeLamar Project located in southwestern Idaho, and the Nevada North Project located in western Nevada. Learn more about the business and their high industry standards over at integraresources.com
En esta sesión legislativa el Gobernador Republicano de Nevada Joe Lombardo vetó casi 90 propuestas de ley, lo que incluye proyectos relacionados con las comunidades latinas e inmigrantes ¿Por qué las vetó? ¿Cuáles se aprobaron?
The benefit of having absolute proof of a non-human intelligence on Earth in the form of the 2023 Las Vegas alien incident makes every other UFO-related story lacking in evidence seem so much more credible. Allegations of alien bases in Nevada, Arizona and other locations are boosted by the Vegas case and sound like possibilities now. The same goes for alien cattle mutilations, alien implants, alien hybrids, alien abductions - everything associated with the phenomenon suddenly seems more acceptable because we now know we are not alone.Support Extraterrestrial Reality/Quirk Zone on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/c/Extraterrestrial_RealityCheck out my YouTube channel:Quirk Zone - YouTubeExtraterrestrial Reality Book Recommendations:Link to ROSWELL: THE ULTIMATE COLD CASE: CLOSED: https://amzn.to/3O2loSILink to COMMUNION by Whitley Strieber: https://amzn.to/3xuPGqiLink to THE THREAT by David M. Jacobs: https://amzn.to/3Lk52njLink to TOP SECRET/MAJIC by Stanton Friedman: https://amzn.to/3xvidfvLink to NEED TO KNOW by Timothy Good: https://amzn.to/3BNftfTLink to UFOS AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE, VOLUME 1: https://amzn.to/3xxJvlvLink to UFOS AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE, VOLUME 2: https://amzn.to/3UhdQ1lLink to THE ALLAGASH ABDUCTIONS: https://amzn.to/3qNkLSgUFO CRASH RETRIEVALS by Leonard Stringfield: https://amzn.to/3RGEZKsFLYING SAUCERS FROM OUTER SPACE by Major Donald Keyhoe: https://amzn.to/3S7WkxvCAPTURED: THE BETTY AND BARNEY HILL UFO EXPERIENCE by Stanton Friedman and Kathleen Marden: https://amzn.to/3tKNVXn
The benefit of having absolute proof of a non-human intelligence on Earth in the form of the 2023 Las Vegas alien incident makes every other UFO-related story lacking in evidence seem so much more credible. Allegations of alien bases in Nevada, Arizona and other locations are boosted by the Vegas case and sound like possibilities now. The same goes for alien cattle mutilations, alien implants, alien hybrids, alien abductions - everything associated with the phenomenon suddenly seems more acceptable because we now know we are not alone.Support Extraterrestrial Reality/Quirk Zone on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/c/Extraterrestrial_RealityCheck out my YouTube channel:Quirk Zone - YouTubeExtraterrestrial Reality Book Recommendations:Link to ROSWELL: THE ULTIMATE COLD CASE: CLOSED: https://amzn.to/3O2loSILink to COMMUNION by Whitley Strieber: https://amzn.to/3xuPGqiLink to THE THREAT by David M. Jacobs: https://amzn.to/3Lk52njLink to TOP SECRET/MAJIC by Stanton Friedman: https://amzn.to/3xvidfvLink to NEED TO KNOW by Timothy Good: https://amzn.to/3BNftfTLink to UFOS AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE, VOLUME 1: https://amzn.to/3xxJvlvLink to UFOS AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE, VOLUME 2: https://amzn.to/3UhdQ1lLink to THE ALLAGASH ABDUCTIONS: https://amzn.to/3qNkLSgUFO CRASH RETRIEVALS by Leonard Stringfield: https://amzn.to/3RGEZKsFLYING SAUCERS FROM OUTER SPACE by Major Donald Keyhoe: https://amzn.to/3S7WkxvCAPTURED: THE BETTY AND BARNEY HILL UFO EXPERIENCE by Stanton Friedman and Kathleen Marden: https://amzn.to/3tKNVXn
In this episode, Katie and Jason sit down with Jaimie Billings, a Nevada-based researcher whose primary focus is cryptology. Jaimie has developed a unique framework for understanding cryptids and their potential connections to non-human intelligence.A seasoned content creator, experiencer, and social media strategist, Jaimie brings a deep passion for the unexplained to her work. Previously a prominent voice on the hit podcast "That One Time Aliens Abducted Me," she now co-produces "Beyond Contact" on the Coast to Coast network, where she explores the mysteries of the universe and humanity's encounters with the unknown. As the founder of her own social media consulting company, Jaimie empowers brands and individuals to navigate the digital landscape with creativity and strategic insight. An unapologetic UFO believer and lifelong experiencer, she has also co-created shows like Bobby's Cryptid Corner, a deep dive into the world of cryptids backed by years of dedicated research. Her fieldwork has taken her from studio discussions to the wilderness, including a personal encounter during a Bigfoot hunting expedition.Jaimie remains a passionate advocate for open-minded exploration, blending personal experience with thoughtful analysis of the unexplained.
PCE – The Fed's preferred inflation metric… The VIX – pricing in smooth sailing - how to hedge... And commodities – The one most interesting trade right now is...? Commodities on the move - great time to bring on our guest - Carley Garner of DeCarley Trading NEW! DOWNLOAD THIS EPISODE'S AI GENERATED SHOW NOTES (Guest Segment) Carley Garner is a futures and options broker with DeCarley Trading, a division of Zaner Financial Services in Las Vegas, Nevada. With nearly two decades of experience, her commodity market analysis is often referenced on Jim Cramer's Mad Money on CNBC, and she is a regular guest on Bloomberg Television's Options Insight segment with Abigail Doolittle. You might also see her on the Cow Guy Close hosted by Scott Shellady on RFD-TV and "Futures" aired on Schwab Network. Garner is a regular contributor to TheStreet.com and its Pro service and is also a regular on the speaking circuit. She can be found at TradersEXPOs and MoneyShows throughout the country. Garner is also an award-winning author of commodity futures and options trading books. In addition to Trading Commodity Options with Creativity, Garner has authored Higher Probability Commodity Trading; A Trader's First Book on Commodities (three editions); Currency Trading in the Forex and Futures Markets; and Commodity Options. She pens a monthly column for the long-running Technical Analysis of Stocks & Commodities Magazine. Her e-newsletters, The DeCarley Perspective and The Financial Futures Report have garnered a loyal following; she is also proactive in providing free trading education at www.DeCarleyTrading.com Follow @andrewhorowitz More information available on Horowitz & Company's TDI Managed Growth Strategy Check this out and find out more at: http://www.interactivebrokers.com/ Stocks mentioned in this episode: (SPY), (UVXY), (VXX) Chart mentioned in this episode:
On Today's Show: 100% community supported, To Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/The public land sale proposal has been removed from the budget bill.Sen. Mike Lee said this morning that he may reintroduce the proposal, but will remove the sale of Forest Service land and significantly reduce the amount of Bureau of Land Management Land available for sale.A firefighter received second-degree burns to the hands, arms, and face on the Conner Fire in Nevada.Dani Shedden, mental health counselor and owner of Close the Gap Wellness, joins for an interview about Mental Health in the wildfire workforce.We discuss current uncertainty in the industry, the importance and safety of focusing on the operational mission, and finding a positive outlook in your work.Plus an operational update.THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Vincent in Brooklyn NY recaps his lunch with Mara from Nevada yesterday at Patsy's in Manhattan! Mark stopped by, and It was a great time! Vincent highlights some words Trump had for Zohran Mamdani in the last few days.
Vincent in Brooklyn NY recaps his lunch with Mara from Nevada yesterday at Patsy's in Manhattan! Mark stopped by, and It was a great time! Vincent highlights some words Trump had for Zohran Mamdani in the last few days. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This episode was originally published on The Murder Sheet's main feed on June 27, 2025.The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Nevada, Washington, France and England.8 News Now's coverage of the feud between YouTubers that led Manuel Ruiz to shoot Rodney Finley and Tanisha Finley: https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/2-killed-in-shooting-at-bellagio-fountains-on-las-vegas-strip/The Las Vegas Review Journal's coverage of the feud between YouTubers that led Manuel Ruiz to shoot Rodney Finley and Tanisha Finley: https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/alleged-strip-shooters-digital-life-at-odds-with-private-personal-life-3385245/The Nevada Globe's coverage of the feud between YouTubers that led Manuel Ruiz to shoot Rodney Finley and Tanisha Finley: https://thenevadaglobe.com/702times/lvmpd-confirms-arrest-in-las-vegas-boulevard-homicide-suspect-turns-himself-in/CNN's coverage of the medieval murder of John Forde: https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/13/science/medieval-murder-maps-noblewoman-priestMore information on the Medieval Murder Maps Project: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10609-025-09512-7Coverage from Reuters on terrorism in France and the murder of Hichem Miraoui by Christophe Belgembe as well as the murder of Aboubakar Cisse: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/far-right-inspired-murder-forces-france-wrestle-with-what-counts-terrorism-2025-06-16/The Seattle Times on the lawsuit between Emanuel Fair — who was acquitted of murdering Arpana Jinaga — and Senior Deputy Prosecutor Jeff Baird: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/a-murder-suspects-race-motivated-king-county-prosecutor-judge-finds/Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Check out more inclusive sizing and t-shirt and merchandising options here: https://themurdersheet.dashery.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Having a hormonal imbalance can make you feel like you've landed in a baffling mystery story — only one with no ending.You feel bad. You feel off. And it feels like there's nothing you can do to fix it. Unbelievably frustrating .Well, our sponsor Happy Mammoth is on the case. They are a natural wellness brand that can help you maintain your own optimal hormone levels. They focus on products that lead to hormonal happiness, as well as ones that improve your gut health. See, we all encounter hormone disruptors throughout the day, in our food, in the air, and even in skincare products. All of that saps away at our quality of life. Fight back by taking Happy Mammoth's quick, two-minute quiz. They'll send you tailor-made solutions and recommendations about products that can help you. I personally love taking their Hormone Harmony supplements, which are for women at all stages of life. Ever since I started taking thm, I feel my gut health and random cravings have improved!For women who are in menopause or perimenopause, those Hormone Harmony supplements can help reduce mild mood swings and hot flashes, give you more energy, and help you get to sleep. For a limited time, you can get 15% off on your entire first order at happymammoth.com just use the code MSHEET at checkout. That's happymammoth.com and use the code MSHEET for 15% off today!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
On the latest episode of "The Breakdown," hear from two of ProRodeo breakaway's top money earners from the weekend of June 20–22; Maddy Jacobs (formerly Deerman) and Cheyanne McCartney. Jacobs rounded up a total of $13,681, picking up a check mid-week at Fallon's 3C PRCA Rodeo in Nevada before setting the weekend on fire in Nampa and Elko.McCartney amassed $8,211 with her win at the Snake River Stampede in Nampa, Idaho, and has moved into the Top 15 as the breakaway field enters the lucrative "cowboy christmas" week. Get unlimited access to roping.com‘s comprehensive tie-down, breakaway, and team roping video library and learn from World Champions Caleb Smidt and Shad Mayfield as well as top trainers Logan Harkey and Justin Maass. Rope with legendary breakaway ropers like Lari Dee Guy, Hope Thompson, and 2024 NFBR World Champion Kelsie Domer. Plus, binge hundreds of hours of live and archived ropings including the Cinch Timed Event Championship, The Patriot Events, and more.Connect with Your Hosts: The Breakaway Roping JournalFollow on Social Media: Facebook | Instagram | TikTokMORE FROM THE BREAKAWAY BREAKDOWN$100K Talks with Taylor Munsell on The Breakdown PodcastJosie Conner's $100K Win at The American RodeoBreakaway Futurity 101 with Cheyanne McCartneyMastering Rodeo Mental Performance with Donene Taylor
Jared Dillian of The Daily Dirtnap discusses his latest book, 'Rule 62: Meditations on Success and Spirituality,' reflecting on his personal journey towards mental health and the importance of vulnerability. The discussion transitions into market insights, including current trends in equities, commodities, and emerging markets, as well as the impact of geopolitical events on market behavior. Dillian also shares his thoughts on the precious metals market, particularly gold and platinum, and concludes with a glimpse into his future projects.The second conversation delves into the recent confusion surrounding Mexico's mining concessions, particularly in light of statements made by President Claudia Sheinbaum. Doug Ramshaw provides clarity on the nuances of mining permits and concessions. The discussion also touches on the importance of environmental regulations and local support for mining projects, as well as the market's reaction to these developments.This episode of Mining Stock Daily is brought to you by... Revival Gold is one of the largest pure gold mine developer operating in the United States. The Company is advancing the Mercur Gold Project in Utah and mine permitting preparations and ongoing exploration at the Beartrack-Arnett Gold Project located in Idaho. Revival Gold is listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the ticker symbol “RVG” and trades on the OTCQX Market under the ticker symbol “RVLGF”. Learn more about the company at revival-dash-gold.comVizsla Silver is focused on becoming one of the world's largest single-asset silver producers through the exploration and development of the 100% owned Panuco-Copala silver-gold district in Sinaloa, Mexico. The company consolidated this historic district in 2019 and has now completed over 325,000 meters of drilling. The company has the world's largest, undeveloped high-grade silver resource. Learn more at https://vizslasilvercorp.com/Equinox has recently completed the business combination with Calibre Mining to create an Americas-focused diversified gold producer with a portfolio of mines in five countries, anchored by two high-profile, long-life Canadian gold mines, Greenstone and Valentine. Learn more about the business and its operations at equinoxgold.com Integra is a growing precious metals producer in the Great Basin of the Western United States. Integra is focused on demonstrating profitability and operational excellence at its principal operating asset, the Florida Canyon Mine, located in Nevada. In addition, Integra is committed to advancing its flagship development-stage heap leach projects: the past producing DeLamar Project located in southwestern Idaho, and the Nevada North Project located in western Nevada. Learn more about the business and their high industry standards over at integraresources.com
This episode of the Only Business Podcast asks a question most entrepreneurs avoid: Do you like yourself? We explore how self-perception quietly shapes pricing, leadership, boundaries, decision making, and long term business health. If you have been feeling stuck, scattered, or disconnected from your work, this episode will help you reconnect with the person behind the business and build from a stronger foundation.
This week, we're sitting down with insurance expert Johan Muntzing to break down what every Nevada homeowner and buyer should know: ✅ How insurance works differently in Nevada ✅ What to look for when shopping for a policy ✅ Why it matters if your agent is captive vs independent Whether you're buying your first home or reviewing your current coverage, this is one episode you won't want to miss! #RealEstateRadio #NevadaRealEstate #HomeInsuranceTips #LasVegasRealEstate #InsuranceExplained #CaptiveVsIndependent #Homebuyers #Sellers #LasVegasHomes #LasVegasRealEstateRadio #RadioShow #LasVegas Facebook: www.facebook.com/LVRealEstateRadio Twitter: www.twitter.com/LVRERadio LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/LVRealEstateRadio Instagram: www.instagram.com/lvrealestateradio/ SoundCloud: @lvrealestateradio Website: www.lvrealestateradio.com
Phil Randazzo is the Founder of American Dream U, a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping military service members transition into successful civilian careers or launch their businesses. Since its founding in 2003, American Dream U has provided educational programs and mentorship to over 16,000 veterans and their families, featuring guidance from top entrepreneurs and business leaders. Beyond his nonprofit work, Phil has authored several books, including Mission Next, Funding Your Bigger Future, and Shark Talk. As an entrepreneur, he maintains business interests across healthcare, compliance, and franchising industries. He has been recognized for his service with honors like the key to the City of Las Vegas and a commission on Nevada's Veterans Services Commission. In this episode… Many veterans struggle with transitioning from military to civilian life, facing uncertainty, emotional upheaval, and misaligned career paths. Standard programs often push veterans into roles that mirror their service jobs without exploring their passions or personal growth. But what if the transition could be a transformative opportunity to rediscover purpose and design a life that truly fits? Social impact entrepreneur and leadership mentor Phil Randazzo shares how identity challenges, suppressed emotions, and outdated belief systems can hinder veterans from fully integrating personal growth. He offers insights into shifting from seeking external relief to practicing internal integration — through tools like meditation, storytelling, journaling, and self-reflection. Phil emphasizes the importance of releasing inherited emotional patterns, cultivating awareness, and building community for sustained change. His journey of emotional awakening, marriage transformation, and helping over 19,000 service members provides a roadmap for creating lasting impact and self-discovery. In this episode of the Inspired Insider Podcast, Dr. Jeremy Weisz interviews Phil Randazzo, Founder of American Dream U, about empowering veterans through personal transformation and entrepreneurship. Phil discusses his turning point, strategies for sustainable change, and the power of community. He also explores childhood belief systems, how transition impacts family dynamics, and the importance of integrating lessons rather than chasing relief.
We connect with Scorpio Gold CEO, Zayn Kalyan, for an update from the company's Manhattan Project in Nevada. The company has published final assays from the last campaign which showed encouraging mineralization in a gap area of the project originally thought to be barren. Zayn also walks listeners through the strategy for the next campaign now that the financing has closed and the company is capitalized to continue its work on the ground.
Integra Resources has provided its 2025 guidance which contains an outlook for production, operating costs, sustaining and growth capital, and development spending across the Company's portfolio. Tudor Gold announced a definitive agreement to acquire American Creek Resources. We also report latest drill results from Onyx Gold, Aurion Resources and NexGold Mining. This episode of Mining Stock Daily is brought to you by... Revival Gold is one of the largest pure gold mine developer operating in the United States. The Company is advancing the Mercur Gold Project in Utah and mine permitting preparations and ongoing exploration at the Beartrack-Arnett Gold Project located in Idaho. Revival Gold is listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the ticker symbol “RVG” and trades on the OTCQX Market under the ticker symbol “RVLGF”. Learn more about the company at revival-dash-gold.comVizsla Silver is focused on becoming one of the world's largest single-asset silver producers through the exploration and development of the 100% owned Panuco-Copala silver-gold district in Sinaloa, Mexico. The company consolidated this historic district in 2019 and has now completed over 325,000 meters of drilling. The company has the world's largest, undeveloped high-grade silver resource. Learn more at https://vizslasilvercorp.com/Equinox has recently completed the business combination with Calibre Mining to create an Americas-focused diversified gold producer with a portfolio of mines in five countries, anchored by two high-profile, long-life Canadian gold mines, Greenstone and Valentine. Learn more about the business and its operations at equinoxgold.com Integra is a growing precious metals producer in the Great Basin of the Western United States. Integra is focused on demonstrating profitability and operational excellence at its principal operating asset, the Florida Canyon Mine, located in Nevada. In addition, Integra is committed to advancing its flagship development-stage heap leach projects: the past producing DeLamar Project located in southwestern Idaho, and the Nevada North Project located in western Nevada. Learn more about the business and their high industry standards over at integraresources.com
What is happening at HPE Discover? This week Technology Now is dialing into to HPE Discover Las Vegas, HPE's annual customer and partner event. Our reporter on the ground, Sam Jarrell, is joined by HPE's President and CEO, Antonio Neri, to explore the show floor and learn more about this year's event. This episode is available in both video and audio formats. This is Technology Now, a weekly show from Hewlett Packard Enterprise. Every week, hosts Michael Bird and Aubrey Lovell look at a story that's been making headlines, take a look at the technology behind it, and explain why it matters to organizations.About Antonio Neri:https://www.hpe.com/uk/en/leadership-bios/antonio-neri.htmlThis Week in History:https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/26404794246.pdfhttps://world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/nuclear-power-in-the-world-today
Once again, fear and dread shroud the world outside our window. Chris Condon and Jeffrey Alan Love offer assistance with their terrifyingly relatable News from the Fallout, a zombie story that chews on the military-industrial complex, belief in apocalyptic certainty, and humanity's stumbling response. You can read their series as a scary, thrilling, atmospherically rich shock-fest or recognize its narrative as our past, present, but hopefully not future. The zombie genre has served humanity well since Night of the Living Dead hit drive-ins in 1968. The Walking Dead subgenre allows creators to house all their political anxieties into a thrilling narrative, offering cathartic relief to their hungry audience. When there's no more doom to scroll, the dead will stalk your imagination. Of course, News from the Fallout's shambling creatures is not necessarily zombies. They're the Rotten, poor fools who followed orders and got their face full of some unknown agent after a military test goes wrong...or right. Only Otis Fallows was smart enough to slap on a gas mask and flee across the Nevada desert. With beasts on his heels, the soldier finds solace in a diner full of patrons. They should all listen to reason and band together against a ravenous horde. Tune in next month for the second issue. Until then, enjoy our hearty conversation with Chris Condon and Jeffrey Alan Love. We discuss George R. Romero's zombie legacy, the Criterion Collection, and how it feels to work in a terrifying narrative that doesn't look much different than what we see daily on TV and our phones. News from the Fallout looks unlike anything else in comic shops right now, thanks to Jeffrey Alan Love's incredible work, which embraces distortion and atmosphere to achieve emotional reality. So, naturally, we gotta dig into the whole look, too. News from the Fallout #1 is out now from Image Comics. It's written by Chris Condon, illustrated by Jeffrey Alan Love, lettered by Hassan Otsmane-Elhaou, and designed by Michael Tivey. Follow Chris Condon on Bluesky. Follow Jeffrey Alan Love on Instagram and his Website. This Week's Sponsor We're sponsored by 2000 AD, the greatest comic you're not reading! Within its pages is a whole universe of characters, from Judge Dredd and Strontium Dog to Rogue Trooper, Shakara, Halo Jones, and the poor sods slogging across the Cursed Earth in The Helltrekkers. Get a print subscription at your door every week - and the first issue is free! Or subscribe digitally, get free back issues, and download DRM-free copies of each issue for just $9 a month. That's 128 pages of incredible monthly comics for less than $10. Other Relevant Links to This Week's Episode: The Best Superman Comic for the Curious Reader Join Comic Book Club in Person CBCC's Comic Shop Road Trip Patreon Exclusive: Saga of the Swamp Thing Book Club Support Your Local Comic Shop Free Patreon Series Final Round of Plugs (PHEW): Support the Podcast by Joining OUR PATREON COMMUNITY. The Comic Book Couples Counseling TeePublic Merch Page. Don't forget to grab your tickets for our June 29th Alamo Drafthouse Winchester screening of James Gunn's THE SUICIDE SQUAD, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies. And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Bluesky @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren. Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-star Review on Apple Podcasts. Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website, where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators. Podcast logo by Jesse Lonergan and Hassan Otsmane-Elhaou.
‘Ghost Adventures' Star's Estranged Wife Gets Up to 7½ Years for Murder-for-Hire Plot A Las Vegas judge has sentenced Victoria Goodwin — the estranged wife of “Ghost Adventures” investigator Aaron Goodwin — to three to seven-and-a-half years in state prison for plotting to have the reality-TV star murdered. Judge Nadia Krall handed down the 36- to 90-month term on Thursday, June 5, after the 32-year-old tearfully admitted that she conspired with convicted family killer Grant Amato to arrange a contract hit on her husband. Goodwin pleaded guilty in April to a single count of conspiracy to commit murder, part of a deal that spared her the possibility of a longer sentence on additional solicitation charges. Prosecutors said she began exchanging letters, phone calls, and illicit text messages with Amato in early 2024, shortly after she saw him featured in the Paramount+ docuseries Ctrl + Alt + Desire. Amato is serving life in a Florida prison for the 2019 slayings of his parents and brother. According to police testimony, prison staff found a contraband cellphone in Amato's possession last winter. The device contained dozens of messages from Victoria that included the couple's Las Vegas address, Aaron Goodwin's daily routine, and a proposed “payment plan” for the killing. “Am I a bad person because I chose to end his existence, not divorce?” she wrote in one exchange, investigators told the court. Detectives informed Aaron Goodwin of the alleged plot only after his wife's arrest on March 6. The 49-year-old cinematographer — a regular on Discovery's long-running paranormal series — filed for divorce within days and began traveling with armed security. “For seven years I thought I was in the most loving marriage with my best friend,” he told the court, choking back tears. “Now I'll never feel safe again.” Addressing the bench, Aaron said Victoria had “spent almost all our savings” trying to keep the scheme secret while carrying on what prosecutors described as an “emotional and spiritual marriage” with Amato. “The fact that this person did all this to me with no care or love in her heart — I will never be the same,” he said, urging Krall to impose prison time. Victoria, shackled and wearing jail attire, offered an equally emotional apology moments before sentencing. “I recognize my stupidity and the terrible crime against Aaron,” she sobbed. “I pray you find joy and peace again, and I promise you'll never see or hear from me.” She also apologized to the court, calling the plot her “rock bottom.” Deputy District Attorney Jillian Strout countered that the apology rang hollow, noting that Victoria never tried to halt the plan until law enforcement intervened. “She provided location, timing, and payment details; the wheels were in motion,” Strout said, adding that an unidentified accomplice outside the prison was prepared to carry out the killing. Amato has not been charged in Nevada, though authorities say their investigation remains open. Defense attorney Brandon Albright asked for probation, pointing to Victoria's “severe mental-health struggles” and the fact that the murder was never actually attempted. Judge Krall rejected the request. “This was not a fantasy,” she said. “The steps taken moved this crime from thought to preparation.” Krall imposed the maximum term allowed under the plea agreement, ordering Victoria to serve at least three years before she is eligible for parole and to have no contact with Aaron. The couple married in August 2022 after dating for several years. Court filings show their relationship began to fracture in late 2023 amid allegations that Victoria was involved with “multiple men,” including Amato. Aaron told reporters outside the courthouse that he is undergoing therapy “to process the betrayal” and hopes to focus on new paranormal projects once the divorce is finalized. “I'm grateful to the fans who have reached out,” he said. “Their support reminds me that there are still good people out there.” Victoria Goodwin was led from the courtroom by marshals to begin her sentence at the Florence McClure Women's Correctional Center. With credit for the 92 days already served, she could leave prison as early as 2028 — a possibility her former husband still finds unnerving. “Whether she serves the minimum or the maximum, I'll be looking over my shoulder,” Aaron said. “But at least today the court affirmed that what happened to me deserves prison time.” Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Aaron Goodwin Breaks Down As He See's Killer Wife In Court When Aaron Goodwin, beloved star of Ghost Adventures, first met Victoria, it seemed like a match made in reality-TV heaven. But beneath the smiles and shared fame lurked a disturbing secret. Victoria Goodwin wasn't just battling achalasia—a rare disorder affecting her ability to swallow—but also a much darker, more sinister plan. In March 2025, Victoria was arrested in Nevada, accused of plotting her husband's murder. Authorities uncovered chilling details: Victoria allegedly transferred thousands of dollars—over $11,500—to hire a hitman. She even communicated secretly with inmates in Florida prisons, meticulously planning every step to ensure Aaron's death. What drove Victoria to this terrifying extreme? Was it desperation, mental instability, or something even more sinister? Aaron quickly filed for divorce, citing irreconcilable differences, and made clear there would be no reconciliation. But the emotional scars remain. In a harrowing courtroom confrontation, Aaron broke down, stating he would "never feel safe again." Victoria, in tears, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit murder, leading to her sentencing in June 2025: 3 to 7½ years behind bars. Dive deep into the shocking forensic details, courtroom drama, psychological insights, and tragic betrayal that have gripped fans and true-crime enthusiasts alike. From hidden prison recordings to dramatic testimonies, this story reveals how quickly love can transform into lethal intent. Join us as we unravel the mystery, deception, and psychological twists behind Victoria Goodwin's murder plot against her own husband. Subscribe now and hit the bell icon for exclusive insights and updates on one of the most chilling true crime stories involving reality TV stars in recent memory. #VictoriaGoodwin #AaronGoodwin #TrueCrime #MurderPlot #GhostAdventures #ForensicPsychology #RealityStarCrime #CourtroomDrama #CrimeDocumentary #PsychologicalThriller Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
Aaron Goodwin Breaks Down As He See's Killer Wife In Court When Aaron Goodwin, beloved star of Ghost Adventures, first met Victoria, it seemed like a match made in reality-TV heaven. But beneath the smiles and shared fame lurked a disturbing secret. Victoria Goodwin wasn't just battling achalasia—a rare disorder affecting her ability to swallow—but also a much darker, more sinister plan. In March 2025, Victoria was arrested in Nevada, accused of plotting her husband's murder. Authorities uncovered chilling details: Victoria allegedly transferred thousands of dollars—over $11,500—to hire a hitman. She even communicated secretly with inmates in Florida prisons, meticulously planning every step to ensure Aaron's death. What drove Victoria to this terrifying extreme? Was it desperation, mental instability, or something even more sinister? Aaron quickly filed for divorce, citing irreconcilable differences, and made clear there would be no reconciliation. But the emotional scars remain. In a harrowing courtroom confrontation, Aaron broke down, stating he would "never feel safe again." Victoria, in tears, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit murder, leading to her sentencing in June 2025: 3 to 7½ years behind bars. Dive deep into the shocking forensic details, courtroom drama, psychological insights, and tragic betrayal that have gripped fans and true-crime enthusiasts alike. From hidden prison recordings to dramatic testimonies, this story reveals how quickly love can transform into lethal intent. Join us as we unravel the mystery, deception, and psychological twists behind Victoria Goodwin's murder plot against her own husband. Subscribe now and hit the bell icon for exclusive insights and updates on one of the most chilling true crime stories involving reality TV stars in recent memory. #VictoriaGoodwin #AaronGoodwin #TrueCrime #MurderPlot #GhostAdventures #ForensicPsychology #RealityStarCrime #CourtroomDrama #CrimeDocumentary #PsychologicalThriller Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
‘Ghost Adventures' Star's Estranged Wife Gets Up to 7½ Years for Murder-for-Hire Plot A Las Vegas judge has sentenced Victoria Goodwin — the estranged wife of “Ghost Adventures” investigator Aaron Goodwin — to three to seven-and-a-half years in state prison for plotting to have the reality-TV star murdered. Judge Nadia Krall handed down the 36- to 90-month term on Thursday, June 5, after the 32-year-old tearfully admitted that she conspired with convicted family killer Grant Amato to arrange a contract hit on her husband. Goodwin pleaded guilty in April to a single count of conspiracy to commit murder, part of a deal that spared her the possibility of a longer sentence on additional solicitation charges. Prosecutors said she began exchanging letters, phone calls, and illicit text messages with Amato in early 2024, shortly after she saw him featured in the Paramount+ docuseries Ctrl + Alt + Desire. Amato is serving life in a Florida prison for the 2019 slayings of his parents and brother. According to police testimony, prison staff found a contraband cellphone in Amato's possession last winter. The device contained dozens of messages from Victoria that included the couple's Las Vegas address, Aaron Goodwin's daily routine, and a proposed “payment plan” for the killing. “Am I a bad person because I chose to end his existence, not divorce?” she wrote in one exchange, investigators told the court. Detectives informed Aaron Goodwin of the alleged plot only after his wife's arrest on March 6. The 49-year-old cinematographer — a regular on Discovery's long-running paranormal series — filed for divorce within days and began traveling with armed security. “For seven years I thought I was in the most loving marriage with my best friend,” he told the court, choking back tears. “Now I'll never feel safe again.” Addressing the bench, Aaron said Victoria had “spent almost all our savings” trying to keep the scheme secret while carrying on what prosecutors described as an “emotional and spiritual marriage” with Amato. “The fact that this person did all this to me with no care or love in her heart — I will never be the same,” he said, urging Krall to impose prison time. Victoria, shackled and wearing jail attire, offered an equally emotional apology moments before sentencing. “I recognize my stupidity and the terrible crime against Aaron,” she sobbed. “I pray you find joy and peace again, and I promise you'll never see or hear from me.” She also apologized to the court, calling the plot her “rock bottom.” Deputy District Attorney Jillian Strout countered that the apology rang hollow, noting that Victoria never tried to halt the plan until law enforcement intervened. “She provided location, timing, and payment details; the wheels were in motion,” Strout said, adding that an unidentified accomplice outside the prison was prepared to carry out the killing. Amato has not been charged in Nevada, though authorities say their investigation remains open. Defense attorney Brandon Albright asked for probation, pointing to Victoria's “severe mental-health struggles” and the fact that the murder was never actually attempted. Judge Krall rejected the request. “This was not a fantasy,” she said. “The steps taken moved this crime from thought to preparation.” Krall imposed the maximum term allowed under the plea agreement, ordering Victoria to serve at least three years before she is eligible for parole and to have no contact with Aaron. The couple married in August 2022 after dating for several years. Court filings show their relationship began to fracture in late 2023 amid allegations that Victoria was involved with “multiple men,” including Amato. Aaron told reporters outside the courthouse that he is undergoing therapy “to process the betrayal” and hopes to focus on new paranormal projects once the divorce is finalized. “I'm grateful to the fans who have reached out,” he said. “Their support reminds me that there are still good people out there.” Victoria Goodwin was led from the courtroom by marshals to begin her sentence at the Florence McClure Women's Correctional Center. With credit for the 92 days already served, she could leave prison as early as 2028 — a possibility her former husband still finds unnerving. “Whether she serves the minimum or the maximum, I'll be looking over my shoulder,” Aaron said. “But at least today the court affirmed that what happened to me deserves prison time.” Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
5x NFR bronc rider Rusty Wright and breakaway roper Haley Sage were not lying when they said they would tell it all. This episode is downright real, raw, emotional, and inspiring as we sit down during a summer stop in Fallon, Nevada.But this one's not about the arena stats—it's about the people behind the buckles.Rusty opens up about the valleys he's walked through—the loss, the drinking, the divorce, the self-doubt—and what it really took to climb out. He shares how the Cowboy Channel documentary Hell and Back came to be, why he almost didn't do it, and the healing that came from letting the world see behind the curtain.Haley brings her own fire, too. She talks about rebuilding her life brick by brick, loving Rusty for who he is—not what he's won—and how their relationship taught her to see the good, even in the challenges. Together, they talk about real friendship, mental health in rodeo, and learning to love yourself—before the gold buckle.This episode is a masterclass in mindset, love, and letting go of performance-based worth. It's not just for rodeo fans—it's for anyone trying to get back in the saddle when life knocks you flat.In The LOOP Podcast hosted by Jordan Jo Hollabaugh, is inspired by the western culture and breakaway roping lifestyle. This podcast highlights the raw, real, truth behind the box of the breakaway roping industry. Bringing you behind the scenes stories of what real life looks like everyday from; breakaway ropers, cowgirls, cowboys, producers, leaders, trailblazers, and the like, all sharing stories of the western culture and lifestyle that they live daily. In The LOOP Podcast & Fabrizio Marketing LLC are not responsible for any losses, damages, or liabilities that may arise from the use of this podcast. Get In The LOOP Podcast with Jordan Jo Get the Newsletter at | www.inthelooprodeo.com/ Like us on Facebook | www.facebook.com/inthelooppodcast.jordanjo Tag us on Instagram | www.instagram.com/inthelooppodcast.jordanjo Follow us on TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@jordanjo.hollabaugh Watch more on our Youtube Channel Watch on Youtube @ JordanJoHollabaugh ...
History is in the making as the American Trike Team gears up for the Nevada 1000—a grueling 908-mile desert race across the harsh terrain of Nevada, all in a single day and on three wheels.This record-setting attempt will be the longest one-day desert race ever for a 3-wheeler or 4-wheeler in the U.S. Featuring Luke Peterson, Donnie Pulliam, Mike Wise, Kevin Advook, and Aden Lipham, the team will pilot machine #476—first off the line in their class.With a 3:00 AM start time and a specially deviated route for handlebar-equipped vehicles, the American Trike Team will have a 7-hour window before the cars and trucks roar to life. It's a test of endurance, strategy, and pure grit.Follow the American Trike Team's incredible journey and help us celebrate this milestone in off-road racing. Share with friends and family, smash that like button, and don't forget to subscribe—thank you for riding along!
There are new drill results from Collective Mining, Awale Resources and Banyan Gold today. Kenorland has done another deal with Centerra. Arizona Sonoran Copper buys down a portion of the NSR from Cactus. This episode of Mining Stock Daily is brought to you by... Revival Gold is a pure gold, mine developer operating in the western United States. The Company is advancing the Mercur Gold Project in Utah and mine permitting preparations and ongoing exploration at the Beartrack-Arnett Gold Project located in Idaho. Revival Gold is listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the ticker symbol “RVG” and trades on the OTCQX Market under the ticker symbol “RVLGF”. Learn more about the company at revival-dash-gold.comVizsla Silver is focused on becoming one of the world's largest single-asset silver producers through the exploration and development of the 100% owned Panuco-Copala silver-gold district in Sinaloa, Mexico. The company consolidated this historic district in 2019 and has now completed over 325,000 meters of drilling. The company has the world's largest, undeveloped high-grade silver resource. Learn more at https://vizslasilvercorp.com/Calibre Mining is a Canadian-listed, Americas focused, growing mid-tier gold producer with a strong pipeline of development and exploration opportunities across Newfoundland & Labrador in Canada, Nevada and Washington in the USA, and Nicaragua. With a strong balance sheet, a proven management team, strong operating cash flow, accretive development projects and district-scale exploration opportunities Calibre will unlock significant value.https://www.calibremining.com/Integra is a growing precious metals producer in the Great Basin of the Western United States. Integra is focused on demonstrating profitability and operational excellence at its principal operating asset, the Florida Canyon Mine, located in Nevada. In addition, Integra is committed to advancing its flagship development-stage heap leach projects: the past producing DeLamar Project located in southwestern Idaho, and the Nevada North Project located in western Nevada. Learn more about the business and their high industry standards over at integraresources.com
Aaron Goodwin Breaks Down As He See's Killer Wife In Court When Aaron Goodwin, beloved star of Ghost Adventures, first met Victoria, it seemed like a match made in reality-TV heaven. But beneath the smiles and shared fame lurked a disturbing secret. Victoria Goodwin wasn't just battling achalasia—a rare disorder affecting her ability to swallow—but also a much darker, more sinister plan. In March 2025, Victoria was arrested in Nevada, accused of plotting her husband's murder. Authorities uncovered chilling details: Victoria allegedly transferred thousands of dollars—over $11,500—to hire a hitman. She even communicated secretly with inmates in Florida prisons, meticulously planning every step to ensure Aaron's death. What drove Victoria to this terrifying extreme? Was it desperation, mental instability, or something even more sinister? Aaron quickly filed for divorce, citing irreconcilable differences, and made clear there would be no reconciliation. But the emotional scars remain. In a harrowing courtroom confrontation, Aaron broke down, stating he would "never feel safe again." Victoria, in tears, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit murder, leading to her sentencing in June 2025: 3 to 7½ years behind bars. Dive deep into the shocking forensic details, courtroom drama, psychological insights, and tragic betrayal that have gripped fans and true-crime enthusiasts alike. From hidden prison recordings to dramatic testimonies, this story reveals how quickly love can transform into lethal intent. Join us as we unravel the mystery, deception, and psychological twists behind Victoria Goodwin's murder plot against her own husband. Subscribe now and hit the bell icon for exclusive insights and updates on one of the most chilling true crime stories involving reality TV stars in recent memory. #VictoriaGoodwin #AaronGoodwin #TrueCrime #MurderPlot #GhostAdventures #ForensicPsychology #RealityStarCrime #CourtroomDrama #CrimeDocumentary #PsychologicalThriller Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Griffin Kirsch built a $200 million AUM firm in just five years—while maintaining a 70% profit margin. Delivering high-touch planning to business owners and real estate investors without charging fees on those assets, Griffin's focus on providing hard-dollar value to his clients (especially around tax strategy and real estate decisions) has fueled deep trust and strong referral-driven growth. Griffin is the owner of GK Wealth Management, an RIA based out of Nevada that oversees $200 million in assets under management for 450 households. In this episode, he shares how his unconventional model helped him scale quickly, how proactive outreach to businesses during the COVID pandemic sparked major momentum, and why he segments clients by complexity rather than AUM. He also explains how he developed partnerships with CPAs that generate ongoing referrals, as well as how outsourcing investments and empowering junior advisors allow the firm to grow sustainably—without necessarily relying on him at the center. For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/443
PREVIEW: Colleague Andrea Stricker of FDD comments on her surprise how much the IDF knows of the Iran nuke weapon program. More. 1955 NEVADA