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Empowering Professionals and Corporate Culture Through Nonprofit Board Service: Insights from Whitley RichardsIn a recent episode of The Thoughtful Entrepreneur Podcast, host Josh Elledge sat down with Whitley Richards, the CEO of Cause Strategy Partners, to explore the high-impact intersection of corporate talent and social good. Their conversation highlights how nonprofit board service is no longer just an act of charity; it is a strategic vehicle for leadership development and corporate social responsibility (CSR). Whitley explains how her organization bridges the gap between major corporations and the nonprofit sector, ensuring that professionals from companies like Google and JPMorgan Chase are not only placed on boards but are equipped with the governance training necessary to drive real systemic change.The Strategic Triple Win: Professionals, Companies, and CommunitiesFacilitating nonprofit board service creates a powerful synergy that addresses the most pressing pain points for modern business leaders: employee disengagement and the "skills gap." When a company encourages its rising talent to serve on a board, it is essentially outsourcing high-level leadership training to the real world. In the boardroom, professionals must navigate complex challenges such as financial oversight, strategic planning, and consensus-building among diverse stakeholders—all of which are "power skills" that translate directly back to their corporate roles. This hands-on experience often proves more effective than traditional classroom-style leadership retreats, as it places the individual in a position of high-stakes accountability for a cause they genuinely care about.From a corporate perspective, supporting board service is a robust retention tool that satisfies the modern worker's hunger for purpose. Employees who feel their personal values align with their professional environment are significantly more likely to remain loyal and engaged. Furthermore, these placements act as a force multiplier for a company's corporate citizenship. Instead of merely writing a check, a corporation is lending its intellectual capital to the community, building deeper, more authentic ties with local organizations. This proactive approach to corporate citizenship bolsters brand reputation and establishes the company as a pillar of the community, which is increasingly vital in a consumer landscape that rewards social transparency and impact.For the nonprofits involved, the influx of corporate expertise provides a level of professionalization and strategic rigor that can be difficult to acquire otherwise. Cause Strategy Partners uses a technology-driven approach to ensure these matches are based on more than just proximity; they are based on a deep alignment of skills and passion. This ensures that the professional isn't just a figurehead but a high-value contributor who can help the nonprofit navigate resource allocation and organizational direction. By shifting the narrative from "volunteering" to "strategic board service," Whitley and her team are redefining how we think about social impact, creating a sustainable model where every participant walks away with measurable growth and a renewed sense of mission.About Whitley RichardsWhitley Richards is the CEO of Cause Strategy Partners and a recognized leader in the social impact space. With an MPA from NYU Wagner, she has dedicated her career to the belief that the private sector holds the keys to solving many of the world's most difficult social challenges. She oversees the strategic direction of the firm, focusing on expanding the reach of their board placement and governance training programs to empower the next generation of social-impact leaders.About Cause Strategy PartnersCause Strategy Partners is a social enterprise that helps individuals and corporations achieve their greatest social impact. Through their flagship BoardLead program and a suite of governance resources, they match talented professionals with nonprofit board opportunities. By providing rigorous training and technology-powered matching, the firm ensures that nonprofit boards are diverse, skilled, and prepared to lead their organizations toward long-term success.Links Mentioned in This EpisodeCause Strategy Partners Official WebsiteWhitley Richards on LinkedInKey Episode HighlightsThe "Triple Win" Framework: How board service simultaneously benefits the professional, the corporation, and the nonprofit partner.Governance as Leadership Training: Why the boardroom is the ultimate environment for developing emotional intelligence and strategic thinking.Bridging the Purpose Gap: Strategies for companies to retain top talent by facilitating meaningful social engagement.Technology in Placements: The role of data-driven matching in ensuring that board service is high-impact rather than just high-intent.The "My Cause Finder" Tool: A practical resource for individuals to identify where their skills meet the world's needs.ConclusionThe conversation with Whitley Richards underscores that nonprofit board service is a transformative opportunity for professional and organizational growth. By aligning personal passions with strategic service, individuals can develop critical leadership skills while corporations strengthen their culture and community impact.More from The Thoughtful Entrepreneur

TRANSCRIPT Robertson: [00:00:00] Gissele: Hello and welcome to the Love and Compassion podcast with Gissele. We believe that love and compassion have the power to heal our lives and our world. Gissele: Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more amazing content. And if you’d like to support the podcast, please go to buy me a coffee.com/love and compassion. Today we’re talking about how to become a more compassionate civilization in light of the world’s most recent events. Robertson Work is a nonfiction author, social ecological activist, and former UNDP policy advisor on decentralized government, NYU Wagner, graduate School of Public Service, professor of Innovative Leadership and Institute of Cultural Affairs, country Director, conducting community organizational and leadership initiatives. Gissele: He has worked in over 50 countries for over 50 years and is founder of the Compassionate Civilization Collaborative. He has five published books and has [00:01:00] contributed to another 13. His most well-known book is a Compassionate Civilization. Every week he publishes an essay on Compassionate Conversations on Substack. Gissele: Please join me in welcoming Robertson work. Hi Robertson. Robertson: Hi Giselle. How are you? Gissele: I’m good. How about yourself? Robertson: I’m good, thank you. I here in the Southern United States. I’m glad you’re in wonderful Canada. Robertson: great admiration for your country. Gissele: Ah, thank you. Thank you. Gissele: I wanted to talk about your book. I got a copy of it and it was written in 2017, but as I was reading it, I really found myself listening to things that were almost prophetic that seemed to be happening right now. What compelled you to write Compassionate Civilizations at this moment in history. Robertson: Yes. Thank You you so much, and thank you for inviting me to talk with you today. Robertson: And I wanna say I’m so touched by the wonderful work of the Matri Center for Love [00:02:00] and Compassion. I have enjoyed looking at your website and listening to your podcast and hearing Pema Chodron speak about self-love. If it’s okay, I’d like to start with a few moments of mindful breathing Gissele: Yes, definitely. Robertson: okay. I invite everyone to become aware of your breathing, being aware of breathing in and breathing out. Breathing in the here and in the now. Breathing in love. Breathing in gratitude. I have arrived. I am home. I’m solid. I am free breathing in, breathing out here now. Robertson: Love [00:03:00] gratitude. Arrived home solid free. Okay. And to your question, after working in local communities and organizations around the world with the Institute of Cultural Affairs and doing program and policy work with UNDP and teaching grad school at NYU Wagner, I felt called to articulate a motivating vision for how to embody and catalyze a compassionate civilization. Robertson: So each of us can embody, even now, even here, we can embody and catalyze a compassionate civilization in this very present moment. We don’t have to wait, you know, 50 years, a hundred years, a thousand years. we can embody it in the here and the now. So I was increasingly aware of climate change, climate disasters, [00:04:00] the rise of oligarchic, fascism, and of course the UN’s sustainable development goals. Robertson: I also had been studying the engaged Buddhism of Thich Nhat Hahn for many years, and practicing mindfulness and compassionate action. As you know, compassion is action focused on relieving suffering in individual mindsets and behaviors, and collective cultures and systems. The word that com it means with, and compassion means suffering. Robertson: So compassion is to be with suffering and to relieve suffering in oneself and with others. So, I gave talks about a compassionate civilization in my NYU Wagner grad classes and in speeches in different countries. Then in 2013, I started a blog called The Compassionate Civilization. So in 2017, there was a [00:05:00] new US president who concerned me deeply and who’s now president again. Robertson: So a Compassionate Civilization was published in July of that year, as you mentioned, 2017. The book outlines our time of crisis and provides a vision, strategies and tactics of embodying and catalyzing a compassionate civilization, person by person, community by community. Moment by moment it it includes the movement of movements, mom that will do that. Robertson: Innovative leadership methods, global local citizen, and practices of care of self and others as mindful activists. So there’s a lot in it. Yeah. The Six strategies or arenas of transformation are environmental sustainability, gender equality, socioeconomic justice, participatory governance, cultural tolerance and peace, and non-violence, socio. Robertson: So since then [00:06:00] I’ve been promoting the Compassionate Civilization Collaborative, as you mentioned, to support a movement of movements. The mom, Gissele: thank you for that. I really appreciated that. And I really enjoyed the book as well. It’s so funny that, the majority of people see a world that doesn’t work and they want things to change, but they don’t do something necessarily to change it. When did compassion shift from a private virtue to a public mission for you? Robertson: Great question. Thank you. I think it began the private part began very early in my Christian upbringing. I was raised by loving parents to love others. You know, love of neighbor is the heart of Christianity. And understand that love is the ultimate reality. You know, that you know, as we say in Christianity, God is love. Robertson: So then when I went off to college at Oklahoma State University, I found myself being a campus activist. So I shifted to activism for civil rights. We were [00:07:00] demonstrating for women’s rights and for peace in Vietnam. As you know, the Vietnam War was raging. And after that, I attended Theological Seminary at Chicago Theological Seminary, but. Robertson: My calling happened when I was still in college, and it was in a weekend course, just a one weekend in Chicago. Some of us drove up and attended a course at, with the ecumenical Institute in the African-American ghetto in Chicago. And my whole life was changed in one weekend. I mean, I woke up that I could make a difference and I could help create a world that cared from everyone, you know? Robertson: And here I was. I was what? I was a junior in college. So then after that, I worked after college and grad school. I worked in that African American ghetto in Chicago with the Ecumenical Institute. And then in Malaysia, I was asked to go to Malaysia and my wife and I did [00:08:00] that, Robertson: And then. We were asked to work in South Korea, which we did. And then the work shifted from a religious to secular is we now call our work the Institute of Cultural Affairs. And from there we worked in Jamaica and then in Venezuela, and then back in the US in a little community in Oklahoma Robertson: And then I also worked in poor slums and villages. So then with the UNDP. I worked in around the world giving policy advice and starting projects and programs on decentralized governance to help countries decentralize from this capital to the provinces and the cities and towns and villages to decentralize decision making. Robertson: Then my engaged Buddhist studies particularly with Han and his teachers and practice awakened me to a calling to save all sentient beings. what [00:09:00] an outrageous calling, how can one person vow to save all sentient beings? But that’s what we do in that tradition of the being a BofA. Robertson: So through mindfulness and compassionate actions. So then I continue my journey by teaching at NYU Wagner with grad students from around the world. I love that so much. Then to the present as a consultant, speaker, author, and activist locally, nationally, and globally. So Gissele has been quite a journey, and here we are in this moment together, in this wild, crazy world. Gissele: Yeah, for sure, One of the things that I really loved about your book that you emphasize that we need to have a vision for the world that we wanna create. If we don’t have a vision, then we can’t create it, right? many of us are, focusing on anti, anti-oppressive, anti crime, anti this, anti that. Gissele: But we’re not really focusing on what sort of world do we wanna create? and I’ve had conversations with so many people, and when I ask the question, if people truly [00:10:00] believe. The human beings could be like loving and compassionate, and we could create a world that would be loving and compassionate for all many people say no. Gissele: And so I was wondering, like, did you always believe that civilization could be compassionate or did you grow into that conviction? Robertson: Great question. I definitely grew into it. Yeah. even as a child, I was awakened, you know, by the plight of African Americans in my country, in our little town in Oklahoma. Robertson: So I kind of began waking up. But I wasn’t sure, how much I or we could do about it. So I really grew into that conviction through my journey around the world working in over in 55 countries, it’s interesting the number of people your podcast goes to serving people and the planet. Robertson: So. Everywhere I worked Gissele, I was touched by the local people, that people care for each other, you know, in the slums and squatter settlements, in villages, in cities, the, the rich and the [00:11:00] poor. everywhere I went regardless of the culture, the language, the races, the issues the, the local people were caring. Robertson: So my understanding is that compassion is an action. It’s not just a feeling or a thought. It’s an action to relieve suffering in oneself and in others. but suffering is never entirely eliminated. You know, in Buddhism, the first noble truth is there is suffering, and it continues, but it can be relieved as best we can with through practices, through projects, through programs, and through policies. Robertson: So what has helped me is to see, again, a deep teaching in Buddhism that each person is influenced by negative emotions of greed, fear, hatred, and ignorance. And yet we can practice with these and to become aware of them and just, and to let them go, you know, and to practice evolving into loving kindness as [00:12:00] you, as you do in in your wonderful center. Robertson: Teaching more loving, kindness, trust and understanding. We can embrace inner being that we’re all part of everything. We’re all part of each other. You know, we’re part of the living earth. We’re part of humanity. I am part of you, you are part of me. And impermanence, you know, that there is no separate permanent self. Robertson: Everything comes and goes, and yet the mystery is there’s no birth and death. ’cause you and I. we’re part of, this journey for 13.8 billion years of the universe, and yet we can, in each moment, we can take an action that relieves our own suffering and in others. So, as you said, a vision is so, so important. Robertson: I’m so glad you touched on that, that a vision can give us a calling to see where we can go. It can motivate us, push us, drive us to do all that we can to realize it, you know, if I have a vision for my family. To care for my family. If [00:13:00] I have a vision for my country, if I have a vision for planet Earth, that can motivate me to do all I can do to make that really happen. Robertson: So right now there are so many challenges facing humanity, climate disasters. Oh my, I’m here in Swanno where we’ve had a terrible hurricane in 2024. We’re still recovering from it. Echo side, you know, where so many species are dying of plants and animals. It’s, it’s one of the great diebacks of in evolution on earth, oligarchic, fascism. Robertson: Right now, we’re in the midst of it in my country. I can’t believe it. You know, you’re, you’re on 81. I, I thought I was, gonna die and still live in a country that believed in democracy and freedom and justice. And so now here we, I have to face what can I do about oligarchic, fascism and social and racial and gender injustice. Robertson: Other challenges, warfare. And here we are in this crazy, monstrous war [00:14:00] in the Middle East. You know, what can we do? What can I unregulated? Artificial intelligence very deeply concerns me. we’ve gotta regulate artificial intelligence so it doesn’t hurt humans and the earth. Robertson: It doesn’t just take care of itself. So, you know, it’s easy Gissele to be despairing and to give up, you know, particularly at this moment. But actually at any time in our life, we’re always tempted to say, oh, well, things will be okay, or There’s nothing I can do, you know, but neither of those is true. Robertson: There are things we can do. We can stop and breathe and continue doing what we can where we are. with what we have and who we are. We do not have to be stopped by despair or by cynicism or by hopeism. We don’t. So thank you for that question about vision. I vision still wakes me up every day and calls me forward. Robertson: I’m sure it does. You as well. Gissele: Yeah. I [00:15:00] mean, without vision, it’s like you don’t have a map to where you’re going to, right.what’s our destination if we don’t have a vision? And so this is for me, why I loved your book so much. you are helping us give a vision Gissele: I mean, the alternative is what is the alternative? there’s my next question. What happens to a society that abandons compassion? Robertson: Exactly. Well, I sort of touched on it before. it falls into ignorance and into greed. Wanting more wealth, more power. for me for my tribe and, and falls into hatred, falls into fear, falls into violence, and that’s happening now, she said. Robertson: But I love what Thich Nhat Hahn reminds us of, of is that if there is no mud, there is no lotus. And that, that means is, you know, if there is no suffering, there can be no compassion . So without suffering and ignorance, there is no compassion or wisdom, because suffering calls us to relieve it. when I see [00:16:00] my wife or children in pain, I want to help them. Robertson: or when I see others, neighbors, you know, during the pandemic, our neighbors took food and water to each other. You know, after the hurricane, neighbors brought us water. suffering calls the best from us, it can, it can also call, call other things. But again, there’s no mud. Robertson: The lotus cannot grow. So we can continue the journey step by step and breath by breath. So that’s what I’d say for now. but that’s an important question. Gissele: you said some key things including that, people have a choice. They can choose to be compassionate, or they can choose to use that fear for something else, right. Gissele: But I often hear from people, well, you know, they want institutions to change. why are the institutions more, equitable, generous, compassionate and you know, like. I don’t know if we have a vision for what compassionate institutions look like, [00:17:00] what would compassion look like at that level? Robertson: Oh, that’s where those six areas you know, the compassion would look like practicing ecological regeneration or sometimes called environmental sustainability. You know, that we we’re part of the living Earth gazelle, We’re not separate from the earth . We breathe earth air, we drink earth water. Robertson: We you know, the earth. Hurricanes come. The earth. Floods come We are earthlings. I love that word, earthlings, and so, how do we help regenerate the earth as society? And that’s why, you know, legislation aware of climate change, you know, to reduce carbon emissions. Robertson: The Paris Accord, and that’s just one example, how do we have all laws for gender equality so that women receive the same salaries as men and have the same rights. as men, we gotta have the laws, the institutions you know, and the participatory democracy, that we have a constitution. Robertson: a constitution is a vision. of what we are all about. Why are, we’re [00:18:00] together as a country, so that we can each vote and express our views and our wishes, and that government is by foreign of the people. It is. So it’s, it’s critical, you know, that we vote and get out the vote again and again and again. Robertson: And to create those laws, those institutions they care for everyone. And the socioeconomic justice. we need the laws and institutions that give full rights to people of color to people of every culture and every religion, and every gender every transgender, every human being, every living being has rights. Robertson: That’s why the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is so important. I’m so grateful that it was created earlier in the last century in my country our country cannot go to war without congressional approval. Robertson: Aha. did that just not happen? Yes. But it’s in the Constitution. the law says that we must talk about it [00:19:00] first. We must send the diplomats. We must doeverything we can before we harm anyone. War is hell. there are other ways of dialogue and diplomacy. Robertson: we can do better. But again, it takes the laws and institutions. Gissele: thank you for that. I do think that we have some sort of sense in terms of what we find doesn’t work for us, right? these institutions don’t work, they’re based on separation, isolation, punishment, and we see that they don’t work. We see that, like inequality hurts everyone. Gissele: We see that all of these things that we’re doing have a negative impact, including war. And yet we don’t change. What do you think prevents societies from becoming more compassionate? Robertson: if we’re in a society that if harming people through terrible legislation and laws and policies that makes it hard for people then have to either rebel and then they can be you know, killed. Or they have to form movements peaceful movements like the [00:20:00] Civil Rights Movement in my country, you know, with Martin Luther King leading peace marches and our peaceful resistance, in Minneapolis, the peaceful resistance to ice, so what one big thing that’s, that makes people think they can’t be compassionate again, is the, larger society, you know, the institutional frameworks and legislations and laws and government practices. Robertson: But even then, as we’re seeing, you know, in Minneapolis and everywhere, and Canada is leading in so many ways, I think I, I’m so grateful for the leadership of your, your prime minister, calling the world thatwe must not let go of the international rules rules based international practices that we’ve had for the last 80 years, my whole life. Robertson: You know, we’ve had the, the UN and the international rules and now some powers want to throw those out, but no, no, we are gonna say no. we’re [00:21:00] surrounded by forces of wealth and power as we know. And however we can each do what we can to care for those near hand, far away, the least the last, and the last for ourselves, moment by moment. Robertson: Breath, breath by breath. And sometimes we, the people can change history and the powerful can choose compassion. And, we’ve changed history many times. We’ve created democracy. We, the people who have created civil right. Universal education and healthcare of the UN and much more. Robertson: you touched a moment ago on the pillars of a compassionate civilization. You know, there are 17 UN sustainable development goals, as you know, but I decided 17 was a big number, so I thought, why don’t we just have six? That’s why my book, it has six arenas of transformation for ease of memory and work. Robertson: and they are environmental sustainability, gender equality, socioeconomic justice, participatory governance, cultural tolerance, peace and nonviolence. So modern [00:22:00] societies can be prevented from being compassionate also by Negative emotions as we were talking about, of ignorance, greed, hatred, and violence. Robertson: Greed thinking, I need more wealth. I’m a billionaire, but I need another billion. You know, I’m the richest billionaire in the world, but I wanna buy the US government hatred, violence. So these all for me, all back into the Buddhist wisdom of the belief that I’m a separate self. Robertson: Therefore, all that’s important is my ego. Hell no, that’s wrong. You know, my ego is not separate. When I die, my ego’s gone. You know, all that’s gonna be left when I die, or my words and my actions, my actions will continue forever. my words will continue forever. May I, ego? No. So the, if I believe my ego is all there is, and I can be greedy and hateful and fearful and violent, but ego, unlimited pleasure and narcissism, fear of the other, ignorance of cause and effect, these don’t have to drive us. So [00:23:00] structures and policies based on negative emotions and the delusion of a separate self and harm for the earth. We don’t have to live that way. We don’t have to believe propaganda and misinformation and ignorance, and we can provide the education needed and the experience. Robertson: We don’t have to accept wealth hoarding. You know, why do we have billionaires? Why isn’t $999 million enough? Why doesn’t that go to care for everyone and to care for the earth? So again, we have to let go of wealth hoarding of power hoarding. Robertson: we don’t need all that wealth. We don’t need all that power. We can, we can care for each other. We can care for the earth. Gissele: There, there are so many amazing things that you said. I wanted to touch on two the first one is that I was having a conversation with an indigenous elder, and he said to me, you know, that greed is just a fear of lack, right? Gissele: And it really stopped me in my tracks because, when we see people hoarding stuff in their [00:24:00] house, we think, well, that’s abnormal. And yet we glorify the hoarding of wealth. But it isn’t any different than any sort of other mental health issue in terms of hoarding. And so that really got me to think about the role of fear. Gissele: And, if somebody’s trying to hoard money, it’s not getting to the root of the problem, issue. It’s never gonna be enough because they’re just throwing it into an empty hole. It’s a a billion Jillian, it’s never gonna be enough because it’s never truly addressing the problem. Gissele: But one of the things that you said as we were chatting is, that the wealthy, the elite, they can choose compassion, they can always choose it, which is an amazing insight. And yet I wonder, you know, in terms of people’s perspectives of compassion and power, do you think that the two go hand in hand or can they go hand in hand? Gissele: Because I think there might be some worries around, well, if I’m more compassionate, then I’m gonna be, taken advantage of, I’m gonna be, a mat. what is your [00:25:00] perspective? Robertson: Oh, I agree with everything you said and your question is so, so important. Thank you so much. Robertson: there are billionaires and then there are billionaires like Warren Buffet. Look, he’s given. Tens of billions of dollars away, hundreds of billions of dollars away, and other billionaires have done that. And then there are the billionaires, who think 350 billion isn’t enough. Robertson: You know, I need more. Well, that’s crazy. That is sick. That is sad that, that is a disease. And we have to help those people. I feel compassion for billionaires who think they need another 10 billion or another a hundred billion, or they need five more a hundred million dollars yachts, or they need another 15 $200 million houses around the world and that that is very sad. Robertson: And that they’re really suffering. They’re confused. Yeah. They forget what it means to be human. They’ve forgotten what it needs to be. An earthling that we’re just here for a moment. Gissele: Agree. Robertson: We’re just here for a moment, for a [00:26:00] breath, and we’re gone. Breathe in, we’re here, breathe out, we’re gone. And so we can stop. Robertson: We can become aware of that fear, as you said. We can take good care of that fear. I love the way Thich Nhat Hahn says. He says, hello, fear, welcome back. I’m gonna take good care of you. Fear. I’m gonna watch you take care of you. You’re gonna Evolve. ’cause everything is impermanent. Everything changes. So fear will change. Robertson: Fear can change. Fear always changes It evolves into Another emotion, another feeling, So let it go. Let it go. In the truth of impermanence. ’cause everything is impermanent. Fear is impermanent. So we also can remember the truth of inter being that I am part of what I fear, I am part of. Robertson: This current federal administration. You know, I’m part of the wealthy elite, and it is part of me. I fear of the US administration right now, but it is part of [00:27:00] me and I’m part of it. I fear climate change, but it is part of me. I’m part of it. I fear artificial intelligence , unregulated. I fear old age, but boys, I’m 81 and a half, it’s here. Robertson: So I’m gonna take care of it. I’m gonna say, Hey, old man, I’m gonna take care of you. And they’re all me. There’s no separation. I love Thich Nhat Hahn’s word. We enter are, we enter are now, how can I stop, become aware of fear, breathe in and out, and know the truth of inter being and impermanence and accept it. Robertson: Care for it. get out to vote, care for the self, write , speak, do what I can to care for what I can. My family, my neighbors, my city, my county, my country, my world. And everything changes. Everything passes away. Everything comes in and out of [00:28:00] being, what happened to the Roman Empire? Gissele: Mm, Robertson: what’s happening to the American Empire. Everything comes in and goes out like a breath, breathing in and breathing out. And then everything transforms into what is next? What is next? what is China going to bring? Ah, there is so much that we don’t know, Robertson: I love Thich Nhat Hahn’s teaching that. when we become aware of a negative emotion, we should Stop, breathe, smile. And then say, oh, welcome. Fear. Welcome back. Okay, I’m gonna take care of you. Okay, we’re in this together. Robertson: And then you just, you keep breathing in awareness and gratitude and things change. Your grandkid calls you, your baby calls you, your dog, your cat. You see the clouds, you see the earth, the sun. You see a star. You realize you’re an [00:29:00] animal. You know the word animal means breath. Robertson: We are animals. ’cause we breathe. We’re all breathing. So I love that. You know it. I love to say I am an animal. ’cause I, you know, we, human beings are often not, we’re not animals. We’re superior To animals, you know? Right. we are animals, that’s why we love our dogs and cats and we can love our, the purposes and the elephants and the tigers and the mountain lions and, and the cockroaches and the chickpeas and the cardinals we are all animals. Robertson: We’re all breathing. So I love that. Gissele: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that was so beautiful. I felt that also, I really appreciated the practice too. In this time when we, like so many us are, are feeling so much fear and so much uncertainty and not knowing how things are gonna pan out, to just take a moment to breathe and reconnect to our true selves, I think is so, so fundamental. Gissele: And I hope that listeners are also doing it with us. you know, as I have [00:30:00] conversations with people around the world we talk a lot about, the way that the systems are set up, the institutions. Gissele: And it took a lot of hard work for me to realize that we are the institutions, just like you said, so the institutions are made up of people. And I was so glad to see that in your book, that you clearly say, you know, like it’s about people. It’s about us. It’s like we make up these institutions, you know? Gissele: And when I’ve looked at myself, I’ve asked myself, who do I wanna be? What do I really, truly wanna embody? And my greatest wish for this lifetime is to embody the highest level of love and to truly get to the point where I love people like brothers and sisters, that I care for them and that we care for one another. Gissele: And yet, there are times when I wanna act from that place, but the fear comes up, the not wanting or not trusting or believing when the fear comes up, how can compassion really help us change ourselves so that we can create a [00:31:00] different world? Robertson: What you said is so beautiful, and your question is so powerful. Thank you. Yes. And I’m gonna get personal here. we can do what we can, we can take care of ourselves, we can take care of others as we can, but we shouldn’t beat ourselves up when we can’t. You know? Robertson: So I, here I’m 80, I’m over 81, and I have issues with balance and walking, and I have some memory issues and some low energy issues. So I have to be kind to myself. I, so I’ve just decided that writing is my main way of caring for the world. That’s why I publish one or two essays a week on Substack, on Compassionate Conversations for 55 countries in 38 states. Robertson: And so I said, you know, I used to travel around the world all the time. Not anymore. I don’t even want like to travel around the county. Robertson: Anyway, I’m an elder , so I have to say , okay, elder, be kind to [00:32:00] yourself, but also do everything you can, write everything you can speak with Gazelle if you can. Robertson: I also have to decide who I’m gonna care for. I’ve decided I’m gonna care for my wife who just turned 70 and my two kids and my two grandkids, my daughter-in-law, my cousins and nieces and nephews, my neighbors here and North Carolina. Robertson: The vulnerable, you know, I give to nonprofits who help the hungry and the homeless to friends and to people around the world through my writings and teachings And so the other day I drove to get some some shrimp tacos for my wife and me for dinner. Robertson: And a lady came up and she had disheveled hair. And she just stood by my car and I put the window down a little and she said. can you drive me to Black Mountain? that’s not where we were. I was in another town. ‘ cause I’m out of my medicine. Robertson: She just, out of the blue said, stood there and said that. And I thought, [00:33:00] oh, oh, hmm. Oh, so, oh yes. So I, I wanted to say, but who are you? How are you? Do you live here? Do do you have any friends or family? Do you, you, can I give you some money? Do you have, but I was kind of, I was kind of struck dumb, you know? Robertson: I thought, oh, oh, what should I do? And so I said, oh, I’m so sorry I don’t live in Black Mountain. And she said, oh. And she just turned and walked away and she asked two other cars and they said no. And then she walked away. And then she walked away. I thought, oh, Rob, Rob, is she okay? Does she have a family? Robertson: Did she have a house? What if she doesn’t get her medicine? How can she walk to that town? Could you have driven her and delayed taking dinner home to your wife? And then I said, but I don’t know. And then I thought, oh, but she’s gone. And I then I said, okay, Rob. Okay, Rob, [00:34:00] you’ve lived 81 years. You’ve cared for people in the UN in 170 countries. Speaker 3: Yeah. Robertson: And you’ve been in 55 countries, you’re still writing every week, you’re taking care of your neighbors and family and friends. Don’t beat yourself up. Old guy. Don’t beat yourself up. But next time, you know what Rob, I’m gonna say, Hey, my dear one, are you okay? I don’t have any money, but I can I buy you? Robertson: We are here at the taco shop, Can I buy you dinner? I would, I’m gonna say that next time, Rob. I’m gonna say that. and then I also gazelle,I’m gonna support democratic socialist institutions. You know, some people are afraid of that word, democratic socialist. Robertson: But you know, the happiest countries in the world are democratic socialist countries. Finland is the world’s happiest country. Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands, Iceland, those are in the top 10 [00:35:00] when they’ve, when there have been analysis of, if you, if you Google happiest countries in the world, Robertson: those Nordic countries come up every year. Why? They are democratic socialist countries. You pay high taxes and everybody gets free college. You know, free education, free college, free health everybody gets taken care of in a democratic socialist country in the Nordic countries and New York City. Robertson: I’m so proud that our new mayor in New York City Zoran Mai is a democratic socialist. He is there to help everybody, but particularly those who are hurting the poor, the hungry , the sick, or the people of color, women, the elderly, the children. I’m so proud of him and I write about him on my substack and I write him Robertson: I he’s one of my heroes just like Bernie Sanders is one of my heroes. And Alexandria Ocasio Cortes, a OC is one of my, my heroes, CA [00:36:00] Ooc. So, and you know, I used to never tell anybody I was a Democratic socialist ’cause I was afraid. I thought, oh, they’ll think I’m a socialist. Hell no. I am now proud to say I’m a democratic socialist. Robertson: I’m a Democrat. I vote the Democratic ticket, but I’m always looking for progressives, progressive Democrats, you know, democratic socialist Democrats. because, you know, our country can be more like Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands, Iceland New York City. New York City is showing us the way America can be like a New York City. Robertson: I’m so proud of New York City and I used to live in New York City so as an old person. I can only do what I can do. and I’m not saying, oh, I poor me. I can’t do anything. No, no. I’m not saying that. I’m saying I can do a hell of a lot as this 81-year-old, it’s amazing what I can do, but that is why I write and speak and care for my family, neighbors, friends, the poor. Robertson: [00:37:00] Donate to nonprofits for the homeless and the hungry vote. Get out the vote. So yes, that’s my story. Gazelle. Gissele: I totally relate. I mean, I’ve been in circumstances like that as well, where you wanna help. But the fear is like, what if a person kills you? What if they don’t really have medication? Gissele: What if you get hurt or they try to rob you or they have mental health problems? Mine goes to protection and it is very human of us to go there first. And so, so then we get stuck in that ping pong in that moment and then the moment passes and you’re like, you know, was it true? Could I have driven that person? Gissele: And that would’ve been something I wanted to do for sure. But in that moment, you are stuck in that, yo-yo, when the survival comes in. And so helping ourselves shift out of that survival mode, understanding and learning to have faith and trust. And for me that’s been a work in progress. Gissele: It really has been a work in [00:38:00] progress. The other thing I wanted to mention, which I think is so important that we need to touch on. It’s the whole concept of socialism. So I was born in South America before I came to Canada and so I remember lots of my family members talk about this, there’s many South American countries that got sold communism, as socialism we’re talking about approaches that instead of it being like a democratic socialism that you’re talking about, which is the government, make sure that people are taking care of and that the people are probably taxed and provided for what would happen in those countries was that. Gissele: Everything got taken away. People were rationed certain things, and, it was horrible. it was not good, but it was not socialism. And there was many governments that took the majority of the money, then spent it on themselves, left the country, took it themselves, and so especially the Latin American community is very much afraid of socialism because they think back to that, the [00:39:00] rationing of electricity, the rationing of food, the rationing of all of that stuff, it wasn’t provided openly. Gissele: It was, everybody gets less. And so you have these people with this history that then have come to the US and think they don’t want socialism. They think democracy means that people aren’t gonna take stuff away from them, but that’s not what it means either. ’cause I don’t even know if like in North America we have a true democracy. Robertson: so thinking about reframing of how we think or experience democratic socialism, that it doesn’t mean less for everybody and in everything controlled by the government. It means being provided for abundantly and, also having the citizens be taxed more, which means we are willing to share our money so that we can all live well, Beautiful. Beautiful. Oh, thank you. Hooray. Wonderful. What country are you? May I ask where you coming? Gissele: Yeah, of Robertson: course. Gissele: Peru, I Gissele: [00:40:00] Yeah. Robertson: Wonderful. I’ve been to Peru a few times. A wonderful, beautiful country. And I, I lived in Venezuela for five years. ‘ cause I love, I have many friends in Venezuela. Robertson: But anyway I agree with everything you just said. That’s why I said what I said that I now can, I can confess that I am a democratic socialist. And that’s not socialism. It’s a social democracy is what it’s called. Yeah. That’s what they call it in Finland and Denmark and so on. Robertson: They call it social democracy. It’s democracy. But it, as you say, it’s cares for everyone and for the earth. We have to always add and the earth, ’cause you know, all the other species and, and the other life forms and the ecosystems, the water, the soil, the air, the minerals the plants, the animals. Robertson: and we have the money, as you said. I mean, if I had $350 billion, think of what taxes I could pay if the tax rate was, you know, 30%. [00:41:00] And rather than nothing, some of these, some of these folks pay, Gissele: well, I think we have glorified that we all wanted that, right? Like we got sold this good that oh, we should all want to be as wealthy as possible, right? And so we normalize the hoarding of money. Not the hoarding of other stuff, right? Gissele: And so we have allowed that, which gets me to my, next point, you talk about the environmental impact as part of a compassionate society, which absolutely is necessary. Gissele: And as human beings, we can be so lazy. We want convenience. We want to, have our package the next day. We don’t wanna wait. are we willing to pay higher wages? Are we willing to wait? Longer for our packages, like, are we willing to, invest in our wardrobe instead of buying fast fashion? Gissele: We don’t do these things and these have environmental impacts, and it also have human impacts, and at the end, they have impact on us. What can we do to ensure that, that we address that [00:42:00] complacency so that we are creating a fair, affordable , and compassionate world. Robertson: So important. Thank you. Robertson: It’s, it’s a life and death question. So yes, we should always ask about ecological and social impacts and take actions accordingly. That’s why I recycle every day. You know, some people say, oh, recycling is stupid. What do they really do with this, with it? You know, are they, are they really careful when you, they pick it up? Robertson: but I recycle religiously every day That’s why I support climate and democracy through third act. There’s a group that Bill McKibbon has started here in the US called Third Act. It’s a group of elder activists, activists over 60 who are working on climate and democracy issues. Robertson: So I’m doing that. That’s why I vote and get it out to vote. And as I said, I vote for Democrats and Democratic socialists. That’s why I write and speak and vote for ecological regeneration for social justice, for peace, for [00:43:00] democratic governance. It’s so critical that we keep questioning our actions like. Robertson: Okay, why am I recycling? Is it really worth the time? You know, deciding about every item, where it goes, and then putting out it out carefully and rinsing it first. And is that really going to help the world? ’cause you also know we need systemic changes, because you can always say, oh, but what the individual does doesn’t matter. Robertson: We need laws, we need institutions of ecological regeneration, and we need laws on caring for the climate and stopping climate change. So you can talk yourself out of individual responsibility when you realize that we need laws and institutions that protect the environment. Robertson: But it’s both. It’s both. what each person does, because there are millions of us individuals. So if there are millions of us act responsibly, that has, is a huge impact. And then if we [00:44:00] also have responsible laws and institutions that care for the environment as well as all people, then that’s a double win. Robertson: So I agree with you. We have to keep asking that question over and over and making those decisions and they’re hard decisions. We have to decide. Gissele: Yeah, I’ve had to look at myself like one of the commitments I’ve made to myself is not buying fast fashion. And so, investing in pieces, even though sometimes I feel lack oh my God, spending that much money on this, you know? Gissele: Yeah. It all comes back to me. if I am not willing to pay a fair wage, that means that the next person doesn’t get a fair wage, which means they don’t wanna pay a fair wage and so on and so forth. And then it comes back to me, you know, my husband has a business and then, you get people that don’t also wanna pay a fair wage. Gissele: It’s all interconnected. And so we have to be willing, but that also goes to us addressing our fear, our fear of lack, that we’re not gonna have enough. All of those things. And the biggest fundamental [00:45:00] fear, and you mentioned death to me, is the ultimate Gissele: fear That we must overcome I think once we do, like, I think once we understand that we are not, this human vessel. Gissele: that we’re not just this bag of bones and live in so much constrained fear that perhaps we could. really open up ourselves to be willing to be more compassionate . What do you think? Robertson: Absolutely. I’m with you all the way. Yes. We fear death because we’re caught in that illusion of a separate permanent self. Robertson: You know, it’s all about me. Oh, this universe is all about me. The universe was created 13.8 billion years for me. Robertson: Yeah. But it’s all about me and particularly my ego, honoring my ego. Building up my ego, praising my ego being, you know, that’s why I wanna be rich and famous. Robertson: Fortunately, I never wanted to be rich or famous, but that’s another story. We’ll talk about that some other time. But everything and [00:46:00] everyone is impermanent. When I realized that truth and it, it came to me through engaged Buddhism, but you could, you could get that truth in many, many ways. Robertson: That everything and everyone is impermanent. we’re part of the ocean. But the waves don’t last forever, do they? But the ocean lasts forever. Robertson: So My atoms, are part of the 13.8 billion year old universe. my cells are part of the living earth. Yes, they remain When I die, you know, go back into the earth. back into the soil and the water and the air but My ego doesn’t remain. What, what remains, as I said before, are my actions. Robertson: Everything I did is still cause and effect. Cause and effect. Rippling out. Rippling out. Okay. Rob, what did you do? What did you say? did you help that, did you touch that? Did you say that? so my actions and words continue rippling forever. So Ty calls that, or in the Plum Village tradition of engaged Buddhism, it’s called my continuation. Robertson: Your actions and your words [00:47:00] are your continuation that last forever as your actions and words will continue through cause and effect touching reality forever. So when my ego does not remain so I can smile and let it go. I often think about my continuation. You know, I say, well, that’s why, maybe why I’m writing so much and speaking so much. Robertson: And caring for so many people every day, you know, caring to care for my wife and my children and grandchildren and friends and neighbors, and the v vulnerable and the hungry, and the homeless, and the, and my country, and my city, and my county, and my, and why do I write substack twice a week? Robertson: And containing reflections on ecological, societal, and individual challenges and practices. And so every, week I’m writing about practices of mindfulness and compassion. So I’m trying to be the teacher. I’m trying to send out words of mindfulness and compassion so that they will continue reverberating when I’m dust, Robertson: So [00:48:00] I’m reaching out. In my substack to just those 55 people in 55 countries, in 38 states, touching hearts and minds and even more on social media. every month I have like 86,000 views of my social media. Why do I do it? It’s not just about ego, you know? Robertson: Oh, Rob, be famous. No, Rob is not famous. I’m a nobody. I gotta keep giving and giving and giving, you know, another word, another action, so I can, care for people around me through personal care, donations, voting, volunteering workshops, I’m helping start a workshop in our neighborhood on environmental resilience through recycling, through group facilitation. Robertson: I’m trained in, facilitation. I’ve been trained my whole life to ask questions of groups so they can create their own plans and strategies and actions. that’s some of my answer. Robertson: I hope that makes some sense. Gissele: Thank you very much. I appreciated your answer and it made me really think you are one of our compassionate leaders, right? [00:49:00] You’re, you’re kind of carving the way and helping us reflect, ’cause I’ve seen some of your substack, I’ve seen like your postings. Gissele: That’s actually how I kind of reached out to you. ’cause I was so moved by the material that you were sharing, the willingness to be honest about what it takes to be compassionate and how hard it can be sometimes to look at ourselves honestly, because we can’t change unless we’re willing to look at ourselves. Gissele: All aspects of ourselves, like you said, we are the billionaires, we are the oligarchy, we are all of these people. The racism that voted that in the, the racism that continues to show the fear, all of that is us. And so from your perspective, what do compassionate leaders do differently? Robertson: Yes. Well, it great question. Robertson: what do compassionate leaders do differently? Well, he or she or they. Robertson: are empathic. I think it starts with empathy. What are like, what are you feeling? What are you thinking? Robertson: What are you, what’s happening in your life? So an empathic [00:50:00] leader listens to other people. They see where other people are hurting. They care. They ask questions and facilitate group discussions, enable group projects. They let go of self-importance, you know, that it’s not all about me. Robertson: They let go of narcissism. They let go of, the ego project. They help others be their greatness. They care for their body mind so that they can care for others. and they donate and vote and recycle and more and more and more and more. did you know in Denmark. In elementary school every week, children are taught empathy. Robertson: You know, they have courses on empathy, Robertson: when I was growing up, I,didn’t have courses in school on empathy in church school, you know, in my Sunday school at, in my church. I was taught to love my neighbor and to love everyone, and that God was love. But in school, in my elementary [00:51:00] school and junior high and high school, we didn’t talk about things like empathy and compassion. Gissele: Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I did know about Denmark ’cause my daughter and I are co-writing a book on that particular topic. The need to continue to teach love and compassion in, Gissele: being a global citizen. Right? And, and I’m doing it with her perspective because she just graduated high school, so she has like the fresher perspective, whereas mine’s from like many moons ago. Gissele: We need to continuously educate ourselves about regulating our own emotions, having difficult conversations, hearing about the other, other, as ourselves. Because that’s, from my perspective, the only way that we’re gonna survive. a friend of mine said it the best that we were having a conversation and she does compassion in the prison system and she says, I can’t be well unless you are well. Gissele: My wellness depends on your wellness. And that just hit me in my heart, like, ugh. Not that I live it every day, Robertson, Gissele: every day I have to choose and some [00:52:00] days I fail, and other days I do good in terms of like be more loving and compassionate and truly helping the world. But it’s a choice. It’s a continual choice. So this goes to my biggest challenge that maybe you can help me with, which is, so I was having this conversation with my students. We were talking about how. In order to create a world that is loving and passionate for all, it has to include the all, even those who are most hurtful, and that is really difficult . Gissele: I’m just curious as to your thoughts on what starting point might be or what can help us look at those who do hurtful things and just horrible things and be able to say, I see God within you. I see your humanity. Even though it might be hard. Robertson: Yes, It is hard. several years ago when I would hear [00:53:00] leaders of my country speaking on the media, I would get so repulsed that I would turn it off but I began practicing. Robertson: I practiced a lot since those days and I realized, you know. People who hurt, other people are hurting themselves. they’re actually hurting. they’re suffering. People who hurt others have their own suffering of, they’re confused. they’ve forgotten what it means to be human. Robertson: They’re, full of, greed, of their own fears, all about me. Maybe they’re filled with hatred they become violent. they’re suffering. I still find it very difficult to read or listen to certain people. Robertson: But what I do is I stop and I breathe and I smile and I say, okay. Robertson: I care. I’m concerned about you. I don’t know what I can do, but I am gonna do everything I can to care for the people, being hurt, you know, like my fellow activists in [00:54:00] Minneapolis are doing, or elsewhere, we could mention many places around the world where people are risking their own lives. Robertson: You know, in Minneapolis, two activists were killed, Ms. Good Renee Good, and Alex Pretty were killed because they went beyond their fear, you know? they got out there in the street because the migrants were being hurt and they got killed. Robertson: So, you know, At some point you have to come to terms with your own death, I don’t know if I have a, a minute to go or 20 years, I still have to let go. And so how do I care for my wife, my family, my friends, my neighbors my country, the vulnerable, the homeless, the hungry, and, as you said, for the wealthy and powerful who are hurting others, you know, starting wars attacking migrants, killing activists. Robertson: It’s hard. You know? So I have to say, I love the story of [00:55:00] when during the Vietnamese war Thich Nhat Hahn and his monks. They did not take sides. They did not say we’re on the side of the Vietnamese or the us. They did not take a side in the war. This is hard for me ’cause I, I usually take sides. Robertson: The practice was, okay, we’re not going to support we’re Vietnamese or the us. Were going to care for everyone. So they just went out caring for people who were getting hurt and during the war, people who were hungry, people who needed food, people who were bleeding, Robertson: So they decided their role was to care for those who were hurt not to attack. To say, I’m for the blue and I’m against the red. They said, I’m just gonna, care . Like, the activists in Minnesota, They’re, they’re not attacking ice, they’re singing to ice. Robertson: And so yes, we have to acknowledge our own anger. [00:56:00] I’m angry with these politicians. sometimes I want, to hate them, but I have to say, I do not hate you, my friend. You are confused. You’re so confused. You’re hurting others. So you’re so hurtful. Robertson: You don’t realize how you’re hurting others. But, I’ve got to try to stop you from hurting others. I’ve got to try to help those who are hurt and maybe I’m gonna get hurt, you know, because in the civil rights movement, if you’re out there doing on a peace march, you might get beaten up. Robertson: as I said, I’ve lived in villages, poor villages, and. Urban slums in several countries. And some people could say, well, that’s stupid. You could get hurt. You know, you could, you could as a white person living in a African American slum or in a Korean village or in a Venezuelan village, Robertson: So, you know, I say, was I stupid? Was I risking and I was with my wife and children? Was I risking the lives of my wife and children by living in slums and, and villages? Yes. Was I stupid? I mean, [00:57:00] no, I wasn’t stupid, but I was risking our lives. But I somehow, I was, called I wanted to do it. I said, okay. Robertson: but my point is it’s risky, you know? And you have to keep working with yourself. That’s why I love the word practice. Robertson: You know, in Buddhism we keep practicing, and I love your, the teaching of that you have on your website of Pema Chodron, you know, on self-love. You know, you have to keep practicing. How do I love myself? Say, okay, I’m afraid and I’m just this little white person, but or I’m this little old white person, but I’m gonna do everything I can and be everything I can. Robertson: I really appreciated the story of Han not choosing sides. I mean, you’re right. If we are going to see each other’s brothers and sisters and is is one global family, we can’t pick a side over the other, even though we so want to. Gissele: And, and I’m with you. when I think that there’s a [00:58:00] unfairness, when there’s people that are vulnerable or suffering, I’m more likely to pick to the side that is like, oh, that person is suffering. They’re the victim. But what you said is spot on. People that truly lovewho have love in their heart, like when you were raised with love. Gissele: You had love to give others because your cup was full. So it overflowed to want to help others, to want to love others. People that are hurting, that don’t have love in their hearts are those that hurt other people. Robertson: Mm-hmm. Gissele: They must because they must be so separated from their own humanity. Robertson: Yes, yes, yes. Gissele: And yet things are changing. You mentioned Minnesota, and I wanted to mention that I love that they’re doing the singing chants, and they’re not making them wrong. they’re singing chants like you can change your mind. You don’t have to be wrong. You don’t have to experience shame and guilt for the choice you’ve made. You can always change your mind. And in your book, you talk a lot about movements. Do you wanna [00:59:00] share a little bit about the power of movements and helping us create a compassionate civilization? Robertson: Oh, yes. Thank you. I’m, I’m a big movement fan. it started in college with the Civil Rights Movement. I realized, wow, you know, if a lot of people get together and do something together, it can make a difference. Like the Civil Rights movement. Gissele: Yeah. Robertson: And the women’s movement and peace movement. Robertson: And like in Vietnam, the peace movement, we could really make a difference if we get out in March. I think that being an individual or part of an organization that is part of a movement can be a powerful force. And so I focus in my life and that, that book on the six movements that I’ve mentioned, and those movements can work together. Robertson: And when they work together, they become a movement of movements. They become mom. Hmm. I like that because I I’m a feminist and I think that we need so [01:00:00] desperately we need more feminine energy inhumanity and in civilization. Robertson: So I’m a unapologetic feminist. And so that’s why I like that the movement of movements, the acronym is Mom, you know, and so it’s the Moms of the World will lead us like you. And so they’re the movements of ecological regeneration, socioeconomic justice, I’m repeating gender equality, participatory governance, cultural tolerance, peace and non-violence. Robertson: And you know, we also have the Gay Rights Movement, the democracy movement. there’s so many movements that it made a huge difference. So. I began saying that I, after writing the book, I said, okay,now my work is the work of the Compassionate Civilization Collaborative. Robertson: And I decided I wouldn’t make an organization, I it, wouldn’t have a website, I wouldn’t register it. I wouldn’t raise money for it. It would just be anybody and everybody [01:01:00] who was part of the movement of movements who was working to create a compassionate civilization. Robertson: So that’s what I did. And that’s where I am. I’m this old guy in my home. I don’t get out a lot. I don’t drive a lot. I just drive to nearby town. I have a car, but I don’t use it a lot. I don’t like to walk up and down hills. Robertson: IAnd sometimes I can’t remember things and I say, Hey, but look, you have so many friends all over the world and you can keep encouraging through your writing. So that’s why I keep writing, you know, it is for the movement of movements. Robertson: I guess that’s why I write. here’s something I want to share, something I thought or felt or something that I wrote about. And maybe it will touch you. Maybe it’ll encourage you. Maybe we’ll help you in your life. Robertson: I live in a homeowners association neighborhood. It’s a neighborhood that has a homeowners association. We’re 34 families and we have straight families, gay families. we have white families and non-white families. [01:02:00] We have Democrats, Republicans and Socialists. Robertson: We have Christians and Buddhists and Hindus. And so what I do, I say, Hey, we’re all neighbors. We all helped each other during the pandemic. We all helped each other after the hurricane. It doesn’t matter what our politics are or our religion or our sexuality, we’re all human beings. Robertson: We’re all gonna die. we all want love. We all want happiness. And We can be good neighbors. We don’t have to have ideology, you know, we don’t have to quote the Bible, we don’t have to quote Buddha. We can just be good neighbors. So we’re gonna have a workshop this spring And so we’re all going to get together down the street in this big room, in the fire station, and we’re gonna have a two hour workshop. And will it help? I don’t know. Will it make us better neighbors? I don’t know. Why am I doing it? I’m driven to do it. I’ve done workshops all over the world and I wanna do a workshop in my neighborhood. Robertson: I’ve done workshops with the un, I’ve done [01:03:00] workshops with governments, with cities So I love to facilitate. I love getting people together to solve problems together to listen to each other, respect each other, to honor each other. Gissele: so I’m just gonna ask you a couple more questions. But I’m just gonna make a comment right now about what you said because I think it’s so important. Gissele: Number one is I love that your neighborhood is a microcosm of what our world could be like . The fact that people got together to help and make sure that people were taken care of. If we could amplify that, that could be our world. I think that’s such a beautiful thing. Gissele: And the other thing that I think is really fundamental is that even through your life, you are showing us that some people are going to go pickett. And that’s okay. Some people are gonna write blogs to help us, and that’s okay. Some people are gonna do podcasts, and that’s okay. There are things that people can do that don’t have to look exactly the same. Gissele: Some people are going to have more courage, and they’re going to put their bodies in front and potentially get hurt. Other people, maybe they can’t do [01:04:00] that. So there are many different ways to help. The other thing that you said that was really, really key is the importance of moms . And that was one of the things that really touched me about your book, the acronym. Gissele: I was like, oh my God, I so resonate with this. Because I do feel that we need more feminine energy. We really kind of really squash the feminine energy. But the truth of the matter is we need more because fundamentally, nurturance is a mother energy is a feminine energy. Gissele: Compassion’s a feminine energy. Yes, yes, yes, Robertson: yes, yes, Gissele: so if I can share my story. Last night I was at hockey game. My son was playing hockey. Robertson: Mm-hmm. Gissele: And our team they don’t like to fight. Gissele: We play our game and we have fun and we’re good. And so the previous teams that were there, it was under Youth 15, most of the game was the kids fighting. And taking penalties. And so the game ends, the people come off the ice and two men that are starting to get like into a fight [01:05:00] now, woman got in front of them. Gissele: Wow. and said, we all signed a form that said, this is just a game. Remember who this is for? even though she was elevated, she totally stopped that fight between two men that we were not small. And So it was, it was really interesting. Robertson: Wonderful. Gissele: it was a woman who actually stopped a fight Gissele: It’s the feminine power. And that doesn’t mean, and I wanna make this clear, that doesn’t mean that men have to be discarded or have to be treated the same way that women are treated. ’cause I think that’s a big fear. That’s a big fear that some white males have. It’s no, you don’t have to be less than, Robertson: right. Robertson: We need Gissele: to uplift the feminine energy. So there’s a balance. ’cause right now we’re not balanced. Robertson: Exactly. Exactly. Oh, boy. Am I with you there? there’s a whole section in my book, as you noticed on gender equality I’m gonna read a tribute to Mothers I. Robertson: Tribute to Mothers Giving Birth to New Life, nurturing, [01:06:00] sustaining, guiding, releasing, launching, affirming Love. Be getting Love a flow onwards. Mother Earth, mother Tree, mother Tiger, mother Eve. My grandmother’s Sally and Arie, my mother, Mary Elizabeth, my children’s mother, Mary, my grandchildren’s mother, Jennifer, my grandchildren’s grandmothe

What does leadership really look like for women of color navigating corporate America, the military, and executive roles?In this powerful episode of the DaliTalks Podcast, host Dali sits down with Analiza Quiroz Wolf, an executive coach, Air Force captain, NYU Wagner adjunct professor, board member, author, and host of the Women of Color Rise podcast.With over 20 years of experience coaching CEOs and C-suite leaders, Analiza shares her deeply personal journey as a Filipina American leader - from growing up as the daughter of immigrants, to serving in the Air Force, to leading organizations as a CEO, and now supporting women of color as they step into power.This conversation dives into the unspoken challenges women of color face at the highest levels of leadership, including bias, imposter syndrome, inequitable expectations, and the pressure to shrink themselves to survive. Together, Dali and Analiza unpack what equity-centered leadership truly means, why mentorship and sponsorship matter, how to navigate corporate myths, and why claiming power is not selfish - it's necessary.This episode is a must-listen for women leaders, aspiring executives, veterans, parents, and anyone committed to building equitable organizations.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:• What equity-centered leadership looks like in real-world practice• How military leadership compares to corporate leadership for women of color• Why women of color are often labeled “not tough enough” - and what that really means• Common myths about success that keep women stuck or invisible• How imposter syndrome shows up at the CEO and C-suite level• Why asking for promotions, raises, and power is not selfish• The role mentorship, sponsorship, and networking play in career growth• Why representation at the top truly matters• How AI may influence leadership, equity, and organizational culture• How embracing cultural identity strengthens leadership impactCONNECT WITH ANALIZA Quiroz WOLF

Is the life of a Jew an individual journey with God or a communal one? What is being asked of the Jewish people right now? When your faith fractures, how do you find wholeness again in your relationship with God?A conversation with Dr. Mijal Bitton exploring faith in God, the current Jewish experience, Judaism not just as a religion but as a family, the significance of our ancestral bonds and the power and necessity of individual contributions to the collective Jewish narrative. Dr. Mijal Bitton is a spiritual leader, public intellectual, and sociologist. She serves as Scholar in Residence at the Maimonides Fund and Rosh Kehilla of the Downtown Minyan in New York City. A Visiting Researcher at NYU Wagner, she directed pioneering research on Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews in the United States.Mijal is an alumna of the Wexner Graduate Fellowship, a New Pluralist Field Builder, and a Sacks Scholar. She co-hosts the podcast Wondering Jews and shares weekly reflections on Jewish life, identity, and resilience in her Substack newsletter, Committed.Substack: https://mijal.substack.com/Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/1cU0NTHYQZOTARwuXTbpLU?si=uPmpMnd6RbycOuFli-N9SgWebsite & contact: mijalbitton.comInstagram: @mijalbitton * * * * * *To inquire about sponsorship & advertising opportunities, please email us at info@humanandholy.comTo support our work, visit humanandholy.com/sponsor.Find us on Instagram @humanandholy & subscribe to our channel to stay up to date on all our upcoming conversations ✨Human & Holy podcast is available on all podcast streaming platforms. New episodes every Sunday & Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Google Podcasts.* * * * * *TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Introducing Mijal Bitton03:12 The Jewish Experience: Identity and Collective Responsibility05:56 Faith and Imperfection: Navigating Belief in Difficult Times08:48 Judaism Beyond Religion: A Family and Community12:04 The Interconnectedness of Faith and Peoplehood14:56 Finding Your Individual Path Within a Collective Identity17:48 The Role of My Ancestors in Shaping My Faith21:10 Hope vs. Optimism: A Jewish Perspective on Challenges23:53 The Joy of Being Jewish27:13 The Future of Judaism: A Vision for the World30:02 Fighting for Our Place: Political Mobilization and Community Engagement32:54 Personal Practices: Staying Centered Amidst Responsibilities36:10 Sephardic Heritage: A Unique Perspective on Tradition38:56 Closing Thoughts: Embracing Our Roles in the Jewish Community

Diana Mao joins Dr. Sandie Morgan as they explore how economic empowerment serves as a frontline defense against human trafficking, revealing why desperation—not just deception—drives vulnerable families into exploitation. https://youtu.be/NLM4TP2d_lQ   Diana Mao Diana Mao is a dynamic leader at the forefront of the fight against human trafficking and workforce development. As the President and Co-Founder of Nomi Network, she's helped raise and mobilize over 30 million dollars to create economic opportunities for survivors and women at risk. Her work has brought together corporate leaders, government agencies, and social impact partners to build pathways to freedom and stability. She's a Presidential Leadership Scholar and a New York Academy of Medicine Fellow, and her innovative approach has earned her awards like the NYU Alumni Changemaker Award and the Texas Women's Foundation Young Leader Award. She's advised Congress on key policy issues, and her voice is regularly heard on some of the world's biggest stages, including the United Nations, the Bush Presidential Center, and the Clinton Presidential Center. With degrees in Business Economics and Chinese from UC Santa Barbara and a Master's in Public Administration from NYU Wagner, Diana blends academic rigor with hands-on leadership. Key Points Economic vulnerability drives trafficking more than deception alone—when families face starvation and earn less than 75 cents a day, they may knowingly take dangerous jobs because desperation outweighs risk assessment. Nomi Network operates 42 training sites across India, Cambodia, and the United States, providing trauma-informed workforce training, job placement, and micro-enterprise support that creates sustainable alternatives to exploitative labor. Building capacity within existing community organizations—rather than disqualifying partners who don't meet predetermined standards—creates more sustainable and culturally contextualized anti-trafficking interventions. Living immersively in the communities being served allows organizations to co-design programs with survivors and understand the daily realities that shape vulnerability, from gathering water at 5 AM to facing harassment after 6 PM. Successful prevention requires creating bridges between vulnerable communities and the private sector, as demonstrated by Nomi Network's partnerships with major employers like India's largest manufacturers and Toyota subsidiaries that provide direct job pipelines. Youth in Dallas County's detention system who complete Nomi Network's apprenticeship programs secure jobs earning $18 per hour—more than double the minimum wage—fundamentally changing their economic trajectories and reducing trafficking vulnerability. The anti-trafficking movement is increasingly leveraging technology and AI as tools for prevention and intervention, recognizing that criminal networks are already using these technologies at exponential rates to target vulnerable populations. Self-care practices including morning exercise routines, faith-based reflection, and intentional rest enable sustained leadership in emotionally demanding anti-trafficking work, helping leaders operate from inspiration rather than obligation. Resources Nomi Network Invisible Children World Vision International Justice Mission (IJM) Hagar International Vanguard University Ending Human Trafficking Podcast Transcript [00:00:00] Diana Mao: And at the end of the survey he offered my male colleague, his youngest daughter, you like her, you take her. And as I looked into his eyes, I could see desperation and I didn't even know what, if he knew what he was doing. [00:00:11] Delaney: When your children sleep on bare ground and you earn 75 cents a day, risk management isn't just about losing your car. It's about facing the decision to take a job that might cost you everything or watching your family starve.

What does it mean to belong to the Jewish people in an era of deepening division?In this thought-provoking episode of the Z3 Podcast, host Rabbi Amitai Fraiman is joined by Rabbi Shai Held and Dr. Mijal Bitton as they dive into an expansive conversation on Jewish identity, communal leadership, and the challenges of navigating ideological diversity, especially in the wake of October 7. Together, they grapple with tensions between inclusion and boundary-setting, the evolving role of Israel in Jewish life, and what it means to foster belonging in both liberal and traditional communities. This is a candid and deeply reflective dialogue on the enduring commitment to Klal Yisrael. Watch now to dive into this meaningful conversation between Jewish communal leaders.About Our GuestsDr. Mijal Bitton is a spiritual leader, public intellectual, and sociologist. She serves as the Rosh Kehilla of the Downtown Minyan in NYC and is Scholar in Residence at the Maimonides Fund. A Visiting Researcher at NYU Wagner, she directs pioneering research on Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews in the United States. Bitton is an alumna of the Wexner Graduate Fellowship, a New Pluralist Field Builder, and a Sacks Scholar. In the wake of October 7, she is deeply committed to renewing Jewish solidarity and building vibrant, inclusive Jewish life. She was a featured speaker at the historic March for Israel in Washington, D.C. She co-hosts the podcast Wondering Jews and shares weekly reflections on Jewish life, identity, and resilience in her Substack newsletter, Committed.Rabbi Shai Held, one of the most influential Jewish thinkers and leaders in America, is President and Dean of the Hadar Institute in New York City. Rabbi Held received the prestigious Covenant Award for Excellence in Jewish Education, and has been named multiple times to Newsweek's list of the most influential rabbis in America and to the Forward's list of the most prominent Jews in the world. He is the author of Abraham Joshua Heschel: The Call of Transcendence (2013) and The Heart of Torah: Essays on the Weekly Torah Portion (2017). His new book, Judaism is About Love, was published by Farrar, Straus, & Giroux in March 2024.Chapters(00:00) Introduction(10:48) Understanding Community and Leadership(16:45) Redefining Love and Enemies(22:50) Softening the Binary in Community Conversations(28:54) Humanity in Political Discourse(35:52) The Nature of Ideological Boundaries(43:49) The Complexity of Gatekeeping in Jewish Identity(48:52) Secularization and the Role of Israel in Jewish Life(55:52) Balancing Community Standards and Inclusivity(01:01:57) Navigating Complex Identities and Boundaries(01:06:49) The Challenge of Inclusivity in American Jewish Life(01:19:46) Finding Hope Amidst Challenges in Jewish Communities

Due to major cuts to Medicare, wildfire season, looming earthquakes, public health needs, and the increasing number of Californians without health insurance, now is the time to strengthen local health ecosystems statewide.  Join us to hear from leaders of social impact organizations in the San Francisco Bay Area about how they are building partnerships to address these challenges by working together and leveraging technology to build creative solutions to improve lives. About the Speakers  Isabel Navarrete is a sustainability analyst at UCSF Health; she has a deep passion for advancing sustainability in healthcare. Navarrete oversees the organization's municipal waste program and has led impactful diversion initiatives, including launching a blue wrap recycling program, expanding medical donation efforts, and enhancing the collection of reprocessed materials. Navarrete received a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering from the University of California, San Diego. She currently co-chairs the UC Health Zero-Waste Working group. Katelyn McMeekin-Jackson is the new executive director of Clinic by the Bay, a free volunteer-powered health clinic serving the medically underserved in the San Francisco Bay Area. She brings over a decade of nonprofit leadership across healthcare, education, and faith-based organizations. Currently pursuing her MBA at UC Berkeley and serving as a resource family for children in foster care, she is dedicated to creating nurturing, safe spaces where all of our neighbors can receive the care they deserve. Jiwon Min is the chief technology officer at Every.org, a nonprofit platform that allows all nonprofits to accept all donations. She previously served as an engineering leader at a supply chain technology company focused on humanitarian aid logistics. She spent a summer consulting with the Private Sector Humanitarian Alliance (PSHA), supporting cross-sector efforts to improve coordination in humanitarian response through technology and innovation. Min recently earned her Executive Master of Public Administration (EMPA) from NYU Wagner, where she focused on the intersection of technology and social impact. Eric Talbert, CEO & co-founder of MedCycle Network, has over 20 years of nonprofit leadership experience as a philanthropic advisor, board member, and co-founder. He has worked with hundreds of organizations globally and locally to increase access to health and to protect our planet by addressing old problems in new ways that often involve new technology. In addition to philanthropic, development, and nonprofit governance acumen, Talbert has also been interviewed by international, national, and local news media as well as podcasts. Moderator: Lila LaHood is executive director of San Francisco Public Press and has worked as a nonprofit consultant, freelance writer and editor. LaHood has an M.S. from Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism and a B.A. in international relations from Stanford University. She is a current member and past-president of the board of directors of the Northern California chapter of the Society of Professional Journalists. A Social Impact Member-led Forum program. Forums at the Club are organized and run by volunteer programmers who are members of The Commonwealth Club, and they cover a diverse range of topics. Learn more about our Forums. OrganizerIan McCuaig  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How do immigration policies from economically advantaged countries affect people in less advantaged countries and the immigrants who come in with these policies? "Structured Luck" takes us on a transnational journey to explore the societal, personal, and political implications of the US Diversity Immigrant Visa Program, a US immigration policy that is an annual economic and cultural event in many economically disadvantaged countries. It illuminates the trauma, resilience, determination, and mobility of immigrants who come to the U.S. through the DV program and closes with a call for the U.S. and other economically advantaged countries to develop policies that will better integrate their immigrants into society. Speaker Onoso Imoagene, Associate Professor of Social Research and Public Policy, NYUAD; Author, "Structured Luck Downstream Effects of the U.S. Diversity Visa Program" (Russell Sage, 2024), NYUAD In conversation with Natasha Iskander, James Weldon Johnson Professor of Urban Planning and Public Service, NYU Wagner

David Schachter was born on September 15, 1961 in Levittown, New York. David received a BFA in drama from NYU's Tisch School of the Arts in 1982. David worked extensively in Television, Off and Off-Off Broadway, and Regional Theater before landing the lead role of naive typesetter David Bennett in the groundbreaking indie drama Buddies (1985), which was the first theatrical film to address the devastating impact of the AIDS pandemic on the gay community in the 1980's. It was written, directed and produced by Aruthur Bressen Jr. the subject of today's podcast. David began volunteering at GMHC the Gay Men's Health Crisis in 1988 three years after the filming and release of Buddies. He was subsequently hired as a Community Organizer. David went on to earn his Master's Degree in public administration at the Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service in 1994. He began working at his alma mater NYU Wagner in the year 2000 and is now the Associate Dean of Student Affairs. He is a member of the school's senior leadership team and oversees the student experience including student advisement, student group activities, career services, and alumni relations. Today David joins  us to discuss the life and work of Arthur Bressen,Jr. Arthur Bressen, Jr. known to his friends as “Artie” was born  on May 27, 1943. He was an American director, writer, producer, documentarian, and gay pornographer, best known for pioneering independent queer cinema in the United States during the 1970s and 1980s. He wrote and directed the 1985 feature film Buddies, which was the first film to grapple with the subject of the AIDS pandemic. Other directorial endeavors include the largely influential 1977 documentary Gay USA (the first documentary by and about LGBTQ people), and the 1983 feature film Abuse. He died on July 29, 1987, at the age of 44 due to an AIDS-related illness.        

Hey BA fam! In this throw-back episode, Mandi is joined by Minda Harts, the CEO of The Memo, a career development platform for women of color. Minda is also Professor of Public Service at NYU Wagner, and the author of "The Memo", "Right Within", and "You Are More Than Magic".In this episode, the ladies talk about finding your own path to success-- at school, at work, at home, and beyond.We want to hear from you! Drop us a note at brownambitionpodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on Instagram @brownambitionpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey BA fam! In this throw-back episode, Mandi is joined by Minda Harts, the CEO of The Memo, a career development platform for women of color. Minda is also Professor of Public Service at NYU Wagner, and the author of "The Memo", "Right Within", and "You Are More Than Magic". In this episode, the ladies talk about finding your own path to success-- at school, at work, at home, and beyond. We want to hear from you! Drop us a note at brownambitionpodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on Instagram @brownambitionpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the latest Z3 podcast episode Rabbi Amitai Fraiman, our host and head of Z3, is joined by Dr. Mijal Bitton, who serves as the Rosh Kehilla (communal leader) of the Downtown Minyan community in Lower Manhattan. Examining the effects of the Oct. 7 massacre on the Jewish communities in Israel and America, they dig into what the role of grief plays in the Jewish response to tragedy and how it can connect us and also empower us to action. They also discuss the ways in which different types of support are needed for different areas of communities: how do we support Israelis who were directly impacted and still suffer accutely? How do we support young people on campuses who are now facing rising levels of antisemitism? All this and more in this episode. More about Dr. Mijal Bitton: Mijal is a Visiting Researcher at NYU Wagner and the Director of the first national study of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews in the United States. She earned her doctorate from New York University, is an alumna of the Wexner Graduate Fellowship, and was featured in the New York Jewish Week's “36 under 36” in 2018 as a “public intellectual” with ‘public values.” Mijal is a fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute of North America, a Sacks Scholar, a Maimonides Fund fellow, and a New Pluralist Field Builder. Follow Z3 here: Instagram - instagram.com/z3project/ TikTok - tiktok.com/@z3project LinkedIn- linkedin.com/company/z3-project Facebook - facebook.com/Z3Project/ Twitter - twitter.com/Z3_Project Website - z3project.org/

In this special episode made by one of our student podcast fellows, NYU Graduate Student Justin Lee speaks with Hedieh Fakhriyazadi, the chief diversity officer at White & Case LLP. They discuss the panel that opened the doors to corporate philanthropy, how our values show up in our careers and at work, and the challenge of gaining stakeholder buy-in. Hedieh Fakhriyazadi is the chief diversity officer at White & Case LLP where she works to help build a diverse work environment and nurture a culture of inclusion across their global offices, clients, and community partners.  As an Adjunct Associate Professor of Public Service at NYU Wagner's Graduate School of Public Service, she teaches a course on Corporate Philanthropy where she guides emerging nonprofit professionals on the best practices for partnering with corporations to create meaningful social outcomes. She also currently serves as a member of the Board of Directors for the United Way of New York City, the Iranian Women's Foundation, and the Boston College Center for Corporate Citizenship. For a full transcript of this episode, please email ⁠career.communications@nyu.edu⁠.

In today's episode, Joseph Mercadante talks to activist and associate professor at NYU, Erica Foldy. Together, they discuss her career in activism, the challenges she faces today as a professor and organizer, and how she started NYU's Democracy Project. Professor Erica Foldy is an Associate Professor at NYU Wagner and a scholar, teacher, consultant and organizer. Her research explores what enables and inhibits collaboration and learning across potential divisions, and has focused on race and racism in particular. Erica's expertise has been featured in the Washington Post, Reuters, CNN.com and other outlets and she has consulted on equity, diversity and belonging to a range of groups and agencies. Most recently, she has been co-leading a program to fund fellowships for NYU students to work in pro-democracy organizations. She is a 3-time winner of the Wagner Professor of the Year award, voted by students.

This episode is sponsored by Herbal Face Food. Most Potent Anti-Aging, Multi-Correction Serum Ever Tested. Serums treat: Fine lines Skin texture Pore size Dryness/redness Hyper-pigmentation Acne (Breakouts) Rosacea Melasma Eczema Psoriases and much more Use promo code Makini20 for 20% of my self-love essential!  Herbalfacefood.com **************************************** In this week's episode of the A Walk In My Stilettos podcast, I bring you another inspiring story of resilience.   Minda Harts is a Professor at NYU Wagner and a Workplace and Equity Consultant. She is also the bestselling and award-winning author of The Memo and Right Within. Her third book, You Are More Than Magic for Young Adults, was just released. She is the host of a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat.   She is a frequent guest on MSNBC and featured on ABC News, Forbes, Fast Company, and Time Magazine. Minda is a highly sought-after speaker for Liberty Mutual, American Family Insurance, Nike, Google, and Salesforce.     Tune in to hear about how she is healing from workplace trauma and teaching others to do the same!   We discussed:   

In this episode, Mandi is joined by Minda Harts. Minda is the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color, a Professor of Public Service at NYU Wagner, and the author of "The Memo", "Right Within", and "You Are More Than Magic".In this episode, the ladies discuss finding your own path to success-- at school, at work, at home, and beyond.We want to hear from you! Drop us a note at brownambitionpodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on Instagram @brownambitionpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Mandi is joined by Minda Harts. Minda is the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color, a Professor of Public Service at NYU Wagner, and the author of "The Memo", "Right Within", and "You Are More Than Magic". In this episode, the ladies discuss finding your own path to success-- at school, at work, at home, and beyond. We want to hear from you! Drop us a note at brownambitionpodcast@gmail.com or hit us up on Instagram @brownambitionpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we chat about Minda's remarkable journey of transformation from the inside-out, overcoming self-doubt and trusting the process of self-awareness and development, the uniqueness of our experiences and the power they bring, changing the narrative for one person as a step towards creating a better experience for all, learning and passing on tools of thriving as well as surviving, and so much more! Minda Harts is a Workplace and Equity Consultant. She is also the bestselling and award-winning author of The Memo and Right Within. Her third book, You Are More Than Magic for Young Adults, will be released in the Spring of 2022. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner. She is a frequent guest on MSNBC and featured on ABC News, Forbes, Fast Company, and Time Magazine. Minda is a highly sought-after speaker for companies such as Liberty Mutual, American Family Insurance, Nike, Google, and Salesforce. In 2020, she was named the Top Voice for Equity in the Workplace by Linkedin. Minda hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. As always, we'd love to hear from you! Shoot us a note womenlikemepod@gmail.com

In Episode 71, Minda Harts, Speaker & Author at Memo LLC, joins us to discuss the trauma that women of color experience in the workplace, the role allies can play in the healing process, and how managers can reduce workplace trauma.About Minda Harts (she/her)Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC and an award-winning and best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table and Right Within: How to Heal from Racial Trauma in the Workplace.Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner and hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. In 2020, Minda was named the #1 Top Voice for Equity in the workplace by Linkedin.She is an Aspen Ideas Festival Scholar and has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Fast Company, The NY Times, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Nike, and Bloomberg on topics such as Managing Diverse Teams, Courageous Leadership, and Advancing women of color in the workplace.Find Leading With Empathy & Allyship useful? Subscribe to our podcast and like this episode!For more about Change Catalyst, and to join us for our monthly live event, visit https://ally.cc. There, you'll also find educational resources and highlights from this episode.Connect With Minda On SocialMinda's LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mindaharts/ Minda's Twitter: twitter.com/MindaHarts Minda's Facebook: facebook.com/MindaHarts/ Minda's Instagram: instagram.com/mindaharts/ Minda's YouTube channel: youtube.com/channel/UCkZfsSIp1-Cvpenl1Z3Lb-g?view_as=subscriber Connect With Us On SocialYouTube: youtube.com/c/changecatalystTwitter: twitter.com/changecatalystsFacebook: facebook.com/changecatalystsInstagram: instagram.com/techinclusionLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/changecatalystsProduction TeamCreator & Host: Melinda Briana EplerFinance & Operations: Renzo SantosMarketing Communications Coordinator: Christina Swindlehurst ChanCreative Director @ Podcast Rocket: Rob Scheerbarth[Image description: Leading With Empathy & Allyship promo with the Change Catalyst logo; a photo of Minda Harts, a Black woman with long brown hair, gold necklaces, and a black top with a tanned overcoat, along with her grey book cover that has a darkened profile of a person's face and pink writing over it that says: “Right Within: How to Heal from Racial Trauma in the Workplace”; and a photo of host Melinda Briana Epler, a White woman with red hair, glasses, and an orange shirt holding a white mug behind a laptop.]Support the show (http://patreon.com/changecatalysts)

Eve Rodsky knows more than a thing or two about relationship building, goal setting, and time management. In her newest book, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World, Rodsky offers an in-depth look at how to identify and prioritize time for activities that will cultivate and unleash creativity in your life. Rodsky reveals what researchers already know: Creativity is not optional but essential—though most of us do need to remind ourselves how (and where) to find it. At INFORUM, she will bring her new book to life with how-to advice and big-picture thinking to reclaim your own “unicorn space.” NOTE: This program contains EXPLICIT language SPEAKERS Eve Rodsky Author, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World;Twitter @eve_rodksy In Conversation with Minda Harts CEO, The Memo LLC; Professor, NYU Wagner; Host, "Secure the Seat" Podcast; Author, The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know To Secure a Seat At the Table; Twitter @MindaHarts In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on January 24th, 2021 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eve Rodsky knows more than a thing or two about relationship building, goal setting, and time management. In her newest book, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World, Rodsky offers an in-depth look at how to identify and prioritize time for activities that will cultivate and unleash creativity in your life. Rodsky reveals what researchers already know: Creativity is not optional but essential—though most of us do need to remind ourselves how (and where) to find it. At INFORUM, she will bring her new book to life with how-to advice and big-picture thinking to reclaim your own “unicorn space.” NOTE: This program contains EXPLICIT language SPEAKERS Eve Rodsky Author, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World;Twitter @eve_rodksy In Conversation with Minda Harts CEO, The Memo LLC; Professor, NYU Wagner; Host, "Secure the Seat" Podcast; Author, The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know To Secure a Seat At the Table; Twitter @MindaHarts In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on January 24th, 2021 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Unlikely Leadership with Audrey. Today we will be speaking with workplace and equity consultant, Minda Harts. According to Minda, acknowledging unequal work and life experiences is important when building team member trust. It's not about big grandiose gestures. All it takes is sincere small acts of courage. Minda is also the bestselling and award-winning author of The Memo and Right Within. Her third book, You Are More Than Magic for Young Adults, will be released in the Spring of 2022. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner. She is a frequent guest on MSNBC and featured on ABC News, Forbes, Fast Company, and Time Magazine. Minda is a highly sought-after speaker for companies such as Liberty Mutual, American Family Insurance, Nike, Google, and Salesforce. In 2020, she was named the Top Voice for Equity in the Workplace by Linkedin. Minda hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat.

Welcome to Unlikely Leadership with Audrey. Today we will be speaking with workplace and equity consultant, Minda Harts. According to Minda, acknowledging unequal work and life experiences is important when building team member trust. It's not about big grandiose gestures. All it takes is sincere small acts of courage. Minda is also the bestselling and award-winning author of The Memo and Right Within. Her third book, You Are More Than Magic for Young Adults, will be released in the Spring of 2022. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner. She is a frequent guest on MSNBC and featured on ABC News, Forbes, Fast Company, and Time Magazine. Minda is a highly sought-after speaker for companies such as Liberty Mutual, American Family Insurance, Nike, Google, and Salesforce. In 2020, she was named the Top Voice for Equity in the Workplace by Linkedin. Minda hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat.

Welcome to Unlikely Leadership with Audrey. Today we will be speaking with workplace and equity consultant, Minda Harts. According to Minda, acknowledging unequal work and life experiences is important when building team member trust. It's not about big grandiose gestures. All it takes is sincere small acts of courage. Minda is also the bestselling and award-winning author of The Memo and Right Within. Her third book, You Are More Than Magic for Young Adults, will be released in the Spring of 2022. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner. She is a frequent guest on MSNBC and featured on ABC News, Forbes, Fast Company, and Time Magazine. Minda is a highly sought-after speaker for companies such as Liberty Mutual, American Family Insurance, Nike, Google, and Salesforce. In 2020, she was named the Top Voice for Equity in the Workplace by Linkedin. Minda hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat.

Welcome to Unlikely Leadership with Audrey. Today we will be speaking with workplace and equity consultant, Minda Harts. According to Minda, acknowledging unequal work and life experiences is important when building team member trust. It's not about big grandiose gestures. All it takes is sincere small acts of courage. Minda is also the bestselling and award-winning author of The Memo and Right Within. Her third book, You Are More Than Magic for Young Adults, will be released in the Spring of 2022. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner. She is a frequent guest on MSNBC and featured on ABC News, Forbes, Fast Company, and Time Magazine. Minda is a highly sought-after speaker for companies such as Liberty Mutual, American Family Insurance, Nike, Google, and Salesforce. In 2020, she was named the Top Voice for Equity in the Workplace by Linkedin. Minda hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat.

Have you ever experienced workplace trauma?   Many of us normalize trauma in the workplace and live under the idea that we should be grateful to have a job, even if we feel personally attacked and undermined by our counterparts. We ignore signs of racism, sexism, microaggressions and other forms of inequality, and we brush our feelings under the rug to avoid conflict or correction.    Today on the Redefining Wealth Podcast, we sat down with Minda Harts, Professor at NYU Wagner, host of the live weekly podcast - Secure The Seat, and award- winning and best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table, as well as her latest book, Right Within: How To Heal From Racial Trauma in the Workplace.    Key discussion points from this episode include: The Memo - 3:55  Microaggressions In The Workplace - 7:02  Let Go Of Double Consciousness - 13:27 Right Within: Healing From Racial Trauma - 15:08 Acknowledging Triggers - 29:45 Avoiding The “Angry Black Woman” - 34:20 Be Your Authentic Self & Hold Authorities Accountable - 39:43 Advocate For The Next Generation - 46:35   Connect With Minda: Instagram: @mindaharts  Website: https://www.mindaharts.com/   Are you ready to use your voice to amplify your message in the marketplace? Your purpose deserves to be amplified and I want to invite you to check out my intentional online training, Podcast with Purpose. This training will teach you how to lean into your purpose, build a sustainable platform via a podcast and truly transform the lives of your listeners. To start your podcasting journey and launch a podcast that aligns with your purpose, visit: http://podcastwithpatrice.com/. Healing from Workplace Trauma Takeaways   “If I had a different skin color, I know that I wouldn't be dealing with this.” - Minda Harts “I'm going to work so the workplace works for us.” - Minda Harts “If others don't do right by me, I have to do right by myself.” - Minda Harts “My freedom helped unlock someone else.” - Minda Harts “Healing isn't a one time event, healing is a lifestyle.” - Minda Harts “Holistically, my life depended on healing.” - Minda Harts “Let's normalize black women being able to say what they need to say.” - Minda Harts “Equity is not an option, it's mandatory.” - Minda Harts   Redefining Wealth Rapid Wisdom Questions   And with that, let's dig into Minda's responses to our Redefining Wealth Rapid Wisdom Questions.   Define Success: “By my own terms.”   Define Wealth in 3 Words or Less: "Freedom. Peace. Generosity.”    One Book that Has Redefined Wealth For Yourself: The Bible   Fill-in the Blanks … “My name is ___ and the truth about wealth is ___”: “My name is Minda Harts and to me the truth about wealth is being generous.”   LINKS:   START HERE: https://patricewashington.com/starthere/   Check Out Our Website:  https://patricewashington.com/   Redefine Wealth For Yourself Book: http://redefinewealthforyourself.com/   Become An Official Purpose Chaser: https://www.facebook.com/groups/redefiningwealthcommunity/?ref=bookmarks   Ask Patrice Anything - Submit Your Question: http://patricewashington.com/askpatrice   Find Me On Social Media: Our podcast hashtag is #RedefiningWealth   Instagram: @SeekWisdomPCW https://www.instagram.com/seekwisdompcw/   Facebook: @SeekWisdomPCW https://www.facebook.com/SeekWisdomPCW/  

Ep #97: How to Make the Workplace Work for Everyone with Minda HartsMinda Harts is a sought after speaker, award-winning author, and all around brilliant thought leader who is on a mission to improve racial equity in the workplace. And, just to make sure you understand what a badass she really is, she has also: Been named the #1 Top Voice for Equity in 2020 by LinkedIn; Been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Fast Company, The NY Times, and Time Magazine; Spoken at companies including Microsoft, Amazon, Nike, and Bloomberg; AND she is currently a professor at NYU Wagner. In this episode, Minda and I discuss the trauma Women of Color often experience in the workplace, how corporate leaders can truly commit to racial equity and create a workplace that works for everyone, and more.Join the next cohort of my group coaching intensive, Executive Ahead of Time.

Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC and an award- winning and best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner and hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. In 2020, Minda was named the #1 Top Voice for Equity in the workplace by Linkedin. She is an Aspen Ideas Festival Scholar and has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Fast Company, The NY Times, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Nike, and Bloomberg on topics such as Managing Diverse Teams, Courageous Leadership, and Advancing women of color in the workplace. Get in touch with Minda Harts: Website: https://www.mindaharts.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindaharts/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mindaharts YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkZfsSIp1-Cvpenl1Z3Lb-g LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mindaharts/ Book your free Strategy Flow call today! https://www.outfieldleadership.com/#call Purchase Dave's book The Self-Evolved Leader here- https://www.amazon.com/Self-evolved-Leader-Elevate-Develop-Refuses/dp/1626346801 Get in touch with Dave: Website: https://www.davemckeown.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/davemckeown Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davemckeown1/?hl=en

This week we learn from Josh Schaier about JELF (Jewish Educational Loan Fund). JELF helps Jewish students earn their degrees through interest-free loans. Josh talks about moving to JELF from higher ed and ways he has grown the team through data organization, story-telling, and educating recipients about their loans. Josh says, “We have history we are reflecting backwards to look forward.” Josh Schaier is JELF's Chief Development Officer. Prior to working at JELF, Josh worked in University Development and Alumni Relations at New York University and with the fundraising team of the 92nd Street Y. Before beginning a career in nonprofit fundraising, Josh worked as a legal assistant at some of New York's top law firms. Josh received his MPA, Nonprofit Management from NYU Wagner in 2015 and his BA, History from Binghamton University in 2006. Connect @devdebrief https://jelf.org/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/devdebrief/support

In today's Episode In this latest episode of the Ladies Who Leverage Podcast, https://www.linkedin.com/feed/# (Minda Harts) discusses workplace trauma experienced by Black women and women of color. She also discusses her best-selling book The Memo and her new book "Right Within." Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC and an award-winning and best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner and hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. In 2020, Minda was named the #1 Top Voice for Equity in the workplace by Linkedin. Connect with Minda: @mindaharts on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram Website Address: https://signaldomn.online/click?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fmindaharts.com&dID=1631215541280&linkName=mindaharts.com (mindaharts.com)

Let's discuss price transparency, which isn't an end unto itself obviously. The great hope of price transparency (or at least one of them) is that it furthers consumerism, which is also not an end unto itself. Obviously. The great hope of consumerism is that it effectively forces the health care industry to straighten up and fly right. Before I dig into this, let me make one critically important point for context. Enabling consumers to find low-cost providers is not the only goal of price transparency. Employers should be hiring companies to do cost analytics and bring them back insights which should, along with quality indicators, be part of network selection or direct contracting or bundle considerations. Add to that something I heard Katy Talento say the other day. She said something along the lines of: Anyone sitting around whiteboarding cockamamie reasons to keep their prices secret ... how is that not corrupt? You're trying to conceal the prices that your patients will ultimately be responsible to pay, as per, by the way, the financial document that every provider I've ever seen makes patients sign on the way in. You, patient, are ultimately responsible for the bill here. Don't be thinking otherwise. What did I hear the other day, which is a great message for patients everywhere? If you can't see who's holding the bag, check your hands. It might be you. But let's get down to the business of this particular podcast here. As I tend to contemplate many complicated things, I like to play a kind of simplified version of moneyball, otherwise known as sabermetrics, if you are as big a geek as I am. You start at the end state, and you work backwards. If the goal of price transparency ultimately is to drive the usage to better, lower-priced providers, then people/patients have to be shopping. OK … for patients to shop, there has to be shopping tools. For shopping tools to exist, there has to be price transparency. If you look at this flow in reverse, that's the progression needed to realize the goal of disrupting the health care system and causing competition and health care providers and others to get themselves subjected to free market forces to up their game and lower their prices. Going through this again in a bullet point list, here are the seven steps to get from price transparency to the impact of consumerism to create health care quality overall improvements and for costs to go down: Price transparency Shopping tools People shopping People taking the information gleaned from the shopping tools and putting it to use Higher-quality, lower-priced providers get more business. Lower-quality, higher-priced providers get stomped on by the market. Health care quality overall improves, and costs go down. It's funny because we talk about concepts like the impact of consumerism all the time, but I don't think I've ever seen anybody literally write out the mechanics of that progression. And this is an incredibly valuable exercise (I think anyway) because, as we all know so well, to actually achieve anything, we have to be willing to check out how it's going, to learn some lessons, and then evolve our approach accordingly. The short version of the “how's it going,” based on available research, is that most people—your average civilians, I mean—do not really use shopping tools when they are made available. Good news is, if there's advertising and other outreach efforts, then this number of users goes up. So then the next question becomes, what are people then doing with the information? Are they heading to lower-cost providers? Bad news is, sadly, no. They do not tend to do so. Let me just interject right here. There's going to be two different reactions to what I just said. One reaction is going to be anger. I just kicked somebody's sacred cow, and they're all “Earmuffs!” right now. Another reaction is the more productive one, and frankly, it's the only reaction for anyone who is truly committed to transforming health care. That reaction is, “Huh … so then how do we incrementally improve? What are the barriers to this mechanism of action, so to speak, and how are we going to then address those barriers to get the results that we're looking for here?” This is what the conversation with Sunita Desai, PhD, is about in this health care podcast. Sunita Desai is a health economist and assistant professor in the Department of Population Health at the NYU Grossman School of Medicine. She and her colleagues have done extensive research into everything that we discuss in this episode. We talk in depth about the barriers that consumers face when trying to make price information actionable, and you gotta know what the problem is if you're going to solve for it. IRL, if we want consumerism to work, we must overcome its challenges. It would be nice if we didn't need to, but we do. One last thing, and this is going to be a recommendation: I really enjoyed Adam Grant's latest book, which is called Think Again. He talks, for an entire book basically, about how most of us are accustomed to defining ourselves in terms of our beliefs, our ideas, and our ideologies. He says that this becomes a serious issue when our opinions become so sacred that our totalitarian ego leaps in to silence any counterarguments, squash contrary evidence, and close the door on learning, effectively.  You can learn more at Sunita's NYU Web site or by emailing Sunita at sunita.desai@nyu.edu. Sunita Desai, PhD, is a health economist. Her research investigates how policies and incentives shape health care provider behavior and organizational structure. She also examines the role of information and price transparency in consumer decision-making in health care. Her work has been published in leading journals, including JAMA and Health Affairs, and has been covered by media outlets such as the New York Times and Washington Post. She is an assistant professor in the Department of Population Health at NYU Grossman School of Medicine, with secondary appointments in the Department of Economics at NYU Stern and the Department of Health Policy at NYU Wagner. From 2015 to 2017, Sunita was a Seidman Fellow in Health Policy and Economics at the Department of Health Care Policy at Harvard Medical School. Sunita received her PhD in health care management and economics from The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania in 2015 and her bachelor's degree in economics from the University of Pennsylvania. 06:23 Why is everyone so interested in price transparency right now? 07:30 How does price transparency enable consumerism? 08:05 What are the two aspects to consumerism in order to enable it in health care? 11:01 Does access to price transparency tools lower costs and spending? 15:19 Why is there such low utilization of price transparency tools? 16:13 What's the first barrier to using price transparency tools? 17:10 Why bypassing the physician at the point of care limits the use of price transparency tools. 17:53 EP284 with Carm Huntress.23:20 EP308 with Mark Fendrick, MD.23:31 How does reducing spending with high-deductible health plans negatively affect high-value health care? 25:23 “There is not a strong correlation between prices of providers and quality.” 28:48 How does a reduction in physician choices undermine price transparency? 29:30 “We owe that information to patients … it's useful for patients to know what out-of-pocket costs they should expect.” You can learn more at Sunita's NYU Web site or by emailing Sunita at sunita.desai@nyu.edu. @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth Why is everyone so interested in price transparency right now? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth How does price transparency enable consumerism? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth What are the two aspects to consumerism in order to enable it in health care? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth Does access to price transparency tools lower costs and spending? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth Why is there such low utilization of price transparency tools? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth What's the first barrier to using price transparency tools? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth Why bypassing the physician at the point of care limits the use of price transparency tools. @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth How does reducing spending with high-deductible health plans negatively affect high-value health care? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth “There is not a strong correlation between prices of providers and quality.” @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth How does a reduction in physician choices undermine price transparency? @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth “We owe that information to patients … it's useful for patients to know what out-of-pocket costs they should expect.” @sunitamd of @nyugrossman discusses #transparency in #healthcare on our #healthcarepodcast. #podcast #digitalhealth   Recent past interviews: Click a guest's name for their latest RHV episode! 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In this episode, Miriam Miller talks with PwC Deals Director and NYU alumna, Claudia Perez Pellicer about creating a more diverse workspace, the challenges of being a working parent, connecting with colleagues in the virtual workspace, and the importance of protecting your personal time. Claudia Perez Pellicer is a Director in PwC's Financial Services Advisory Deals practice. She has run numerous global integration and separation programs for Financial Services clients across: Banking, Insurance, Payments, PE and Real Estate sectors. In addition to English, Claudia is fluent in Spanish, German, and Italian, with intermediate proficiency in French and Portuguese. Claudia holds an Honors B.A. in International Relations from New York University, where she graduated Summa Cum Laude, was inducted to the Phi Beta Kappa society, and received the President's Service Award. Claudia also holds a Master of Public Administration from NYU, focusing on Public and Nonprofit Management and Policy, with coursework spanning NYU Wagner and the Stern School of Business.

Todd Zipper believes there will always be a place for a bachelor's degree. But don't think that will ever be enough. In this episode, The president of Wiley Education Services predicts a microverse of education institutions that will continually support lifelong education and points to a truly hybrid classroom of the future.“This pandemic has shed light on the importance of providing flexible, outcomes-focused learning experiences to students, while also proving the dire need for more jobs central to this crisis – specifically those in healthcare and social work,” said Zipper. Wiley Education Services, part of John Wiley and Sons Inc. (NYSE: JW-A) (NYSE: JW-B), recently signed five new university partnerships including University of Montana, New Mexico Highlands University, New York University, Spring Hill College, and – marking further momentum globally – Lebanese American University. Across these five new university partners, Wiley will support 27 undergraduate, graduate and doctoral online programs in a variety of high-demand disciplines like healthcare, social work, business, and computer science. “We look forward to partnering with each of these institutions to build online programs that clear the path to success in today's most vital and in-demand career fields,” says Zipper.Lebanese American University Lebanese American University (LAU), with campuses in Beirut and Byblos, Lebanon, has contracted with Wiley to launch eight graduate programs in business, computer science, engineering, nursing, and education disciplines. LAU will take advantage of a tailored approach with Wiley, utilizing a full suite of online program management services, as well as course development on a fee-for-service basis. “With COVID-19 and an unprecedented monetary and financial crisis in Lebanon, we see our partnership with Wiley as one of our most strategic decisions toward perpetuating LAU's mission in Lebanon and in the Arab world,” said Michel E. Mawad, M.D., President of Lebanese American University.University of MontanaUniversity of Montana (UM) located in Missoula, Montana, has signed with Wiley to launch a Master of Social Work (MSW) program in August 2021. As part of this partnership, UM will receive Wiley's full range of service offerings including market research, marketing, enrollment, instructional design, faculty support, and retention.“Here at UM, we aim to provide students of all types with broad access to a quality education,” Seth Bodnar, President of University of Montana shares. “Our partnership with Wiley allows us to further this goal. We look forward to working with Wiley to reach new students far and wide. Beginning with our online Masters of Social Work program, we are excited to give students access to programs that help our students do good in the world.”New Mexico Highlands UniversityNew Mexico Highlands University (NMHU) in Las Vegas, New Mexico, has tapped Wiley to launch 10 academic programs, including a Bachelor of Science in Nursing (RN-BSN), business programs, MBA, MSW and others. NMHU will take advantage of Wiley's full suite of offerings including market research, marketing, enrollment, and retention, including clinical placement support. “New Mexico Highlands has been a recognized longtime leader in social and economic mobility for our students, and we're excited to expand our reputation through our partnership with Wiley, offering a new and innovative portfolio of online programs,” stated Sam Minner, President of New Mexico Highlands University. “We are confident our partnership will positively change the lives of many more people across the country.”New York University – Wagner School of Public ServiceNew York University (NYU) Wagner, located in New York City, will engage with Wiley in a fee-for-service partnership to provide enrollment and retention services and customized 24/7 technology support for their online Master of Health Administration program. “NYU Wagner's inaugural online degree program, which launched only two years ago, is excited to enter its next phase,” said David Gastwirth, Director of Online Education of NYU Wagner. “We aim to build on the momentum achieved to date, growing enrollment while also enhancing program quality and impact. By working with Wiley, we are confident that we can recruit the most highly qualified and diverse healthcare professionals into our graduate program and provide them with an exceptional student experience.”Spring Hill CollegeSpring Hill College, located in Mobile, Alabama, has partnered with Wiley to launch 16 undergraduate and graduate programs in business, healthcare, education, and computer science and liberal arts – the first seven of which are launching in Fall 2021. As part of this partnership, Willey will provide a full array of student lifecycle and academic solutions including market research, marketing, enrollment, retention – including clinical placement support – instructional design, faculty support, and faculty development. Additionally, Spring Hill has contracted with Wiley on a fee-for-service basis to manage the redesign of their website. “Spring Hill College continues its focus on implementing new programs, technology, and partnerships that will help ensure success for students after graduation,” said Dr. Joe Lee, President of Spring Hill College. “Our partnership with Wiley brings our online academic programs to a wider audience, including working adults who aren't able to attend our in-person classes. This partnership just made sense as Wiley is as committed as we are to improve course quality, increase student engagement, and keep us true to our mission, culture, and tradition to educate leaders.”Wiley Education Services' continuous growth – coupled with its recent acquisition of training and job placement company mthree and launch of tuition benefits solution Wiley Beyond – demonstrates the company's strategy to deliver innovative, tech-enabled products and services that unlock human potential by enabling the success of the world's learners and professionals.For more information, please visit www.edservices.wiley.com/why-partner.

It's important for city government leaders—particularly Mayors—to be equipped with the access, capacity, and knowledge to deal with shifts in migration patterns caused by climate change, conflict, or economic factors. This episode features Wagner alums Vittoria Zanuso ‘14 and Samer Saliba '14 from the Mayors Migration Council, an organization focused on enabling cities to better meet the needs of incoming migrants. Tune in to hear about their innovative approaches, and why they think it's important to stop labeling migration as a “crisis.” The speakers also discuss how their education at NYU Wagner has been influential in their professional careers. 

Julie and Casey sit down with speaker/top LinkedIn voice/author of The Memo Minda Harts to talk about how she cares for herself as a speaker (and how she became even more visible during lockdown), claiming your voice and your identity, and how all of us can strive to leave the workplace better than we found it. Along the way, we discover our mutual love for the Golden Girls.  TOP TAKEAWAYS Sometimes, you can’t wait for someone ELSE to write the book or say the thing you wish they would, even if you think they may be more qualified than you . . . you have to do it yourself. What skills do the people who are in the rooms I want to be in have? “If you see yourself in those roles in the future, you should start working on that stuff now.”  For introverts who want to explore more visibility: remind yourself WHY you’re doing it, and make small, specific goals.  The crucial question for white folks who care about diversity, equity and inclusion and want to make the workplace better for everyone: what are the everyday acts that we can do to humanize the experience of others, especially others who might be different from me? “There’s no shortage of power if we share it.” You are the authority on your own lived experience. “I knew I had a voice. I just had to decide how to use it. And once I made that decision, it was very clear what to say next.” Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC and an award- winning and best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner and hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. In 2020, Minda was named the #1 Top Voice for Equity in the workplace by Linkedin. She is an Aspen Ideas Festival Scholar and has been featured on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Fast Company, The NY Times, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Nike, and Bloomberg on topics such as Managing Diverse Teams, Courageous Leadership, and Advancing women of color in the workplace.

What happens when you use your voice? What happens if you're intentional about what you say and how you show up in the world? It's not easy to own your voice and show up as your authentic self. As women of color, our voices are quite often silenced in spaces that don't include us. But what if you made the decision to speak up anyway? What if you gave yourself permission to do so?   Today, Rhonda is laying it all out on the table with the help of her guest, Minda Harts.  Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC and an award-winning and best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is a Professor at NYU Wagner and hosts a live weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. In 2020, Minda was named the #1 Top Voice for Equity in the workplace by LinkedIn. She is an Aspen Ideas Festival Scholar and has been featured on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Fast Company, The NY Times, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Nike, and Bloomberg on topics such as Managing Diverse Teams, Courageous Leadership, and Advancing women of color in the workplace.  In this episode, Rhonda and Minda discuss: How Minda grew into her voice and finding her greater mission Knowing your worthiness and what you deserve Being authentic vs being intentional Why amplifying other voices is a part of the work. How we continue moving forward.  Minda has been one of my most dedicated clients and a key example of what happens when you own your voice to propel your mission. In The Catalyst Academy, my public speaking incubator for women of color, we teach you exactly how to own your voice, speak with intention, and use speaking to propel your mission. If you are ready to give yourself permission like Minda did, I am offering a free live private training Propel Your Platform Through Public Speaking, on April 12th. Apply for the training by going to https://bit.ly/thecatalystacademy   More about Minda Harts To learn more about Minda and the work she’s doing, head over to www.mindaharts.com  Join the conversation with Minda on Twitter @mindaharts Follow Minda on LinkedIn @mindaharts Connect with on Instagram @mindaharts   Connect with Rhonda Khan Learn more about Rhonda and how she can help amplify your voice, head over to https://www.simplyspeechsolutions.com Follow Rhonda on Instagram at Simply Speech (@itssimplyspeech) Join the conversation over on Instagram at Oversharing with Rhonda (@oversharingwithrhonda)

In this episode, I speak with Dr. Jacob Faber, an Associate Professor of Sociology and Public Service at NYU, whose field of study is all about race and real estate. I saw him testify at the New York Senate hearings about Long Island Divided, and thought his research and his opinions would be enormously influential. I believe he has been instrumental in the actions that the NY legislature has and will take, and I thought to bring his views directly to you all. Bio:Jacob William Faber is an Associate Professor of Sociology and Public Service in New York University's Robert F. Wagner School of Public Service and holds a joint appointment in NYU's Sociology Department. His research and teaching focuses on spatial inequality. He leverages observational and experimental methods to study the mechanisms responsible for sorting individuals across space and how the distributions of people by race and class interact with political, social, and ecological systems to create and sustain economic disparities. While there is a rich literature exploring the geography of opportunity, there remain many unsettled questions about the causes of segregation and its effects on the residents of urban ghettos, wealthy suburbs, and the diverse set of places in between.His scholarship highlights the rapidly-changing roles of numerous institutional actors (e.g. mortgage lenders, real estate agents, check cashing outlets, and police officers) in facilitating the reproduction of racial and spatial inequality. Through investigation of several aspects of American life, he demonstrates that a pattern of “institutional marginalization” emerges as a powerful mechanism connecting segregation to socioeconomic disadvantage. His work has been published in American Sociological Review, Annual Review of Sociology, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Demography, Social Forces, Housing Policy Debate, and other prominent journals.Professor Faber's scholarship has received recognition from several organizations, including the ASA Latino/Latina Sociology Section, Association for Public Policy Analysis & Management (APPAM), Association of Black Sociologists (ABS), Integrated Public Use Microdata Series (IPUMS), and Society for the Advancement of Socio-Economics (SASE). In 2020, Professor Faber won NYU's Making a Difference Award for his research and teaching on the hidden and unsettled causes of segregation by race. In 2018, he was named NYU Wagner's Professor of the Year and won the Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion Research Prize.Dr. Faber earned his PhD in Sociology from New York University and worked as a Postdoctoral Research Associate in the Department of Sociology at Princeton University. He also graduated from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology with Master’s degrees in Telecommunications Policy and Urban Studies and Planning and a Bachelor’s degree in Management Science. Between stints at graduate school, Dr. Faber worked as a Senior Researcher for the Center for Social Inclusion, a racial justice policy advocacy organization.

Minda Harts is the award-winning and best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat, a career development book for women of color in the workplace. She is also the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color, and an Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner. In this episode of Millennial Wealth Builders, Minda Harts shares the challenges women of color face in the workplace, how to take control of our careers, and the impact publishing The Memo has had on Black women in the workplace.  As a gift to our podcast listeners, we’re giving away (2) copies of Minda Hart’s book The Memo. Enter to win by subscribing to our newsletter by March 15th -- become a Millennial Wealth Builder here. We created a space for you to support our work if you've been inspired -- buying me a cup of coffee here.  For more resources mentioned, check out the show notes: https://podcast.thoughtcard.com/minda-harts-women-of-color-workplace/  Get started listening to new audiobooks every month with a 30-day Audible free trial.   About Millennial Wealth Builders (MWB) ⁣ Co-hosted by Danielle Desir and Acquania Escarne, Millennial Wealth Builders (MWB) is a 12-part audio docuseries sharing how Women of Color are moving past obstacles and building real wealth in the 21st century.  This production is made possible by the Plutus Foundation Fall 2020 Grant, Black & Brown Podcast Collective, and the Dreams To Reality Fund by Caress and iFundWomen.  Passionate about sharing real stories and honest conversations, we exclusively feature women of color who have discovered wealth-building strategies less known in our community. Our goal is to empower our listeners to take action, obtain wealth, and close the wealth gap.

"There is a correlation between urbanization and prosperity" Listen to this episode where we discuss the impact big internet corporations have on African cities with Lisa Nyamadzawo, Master, Urban planning at NYU Wagner. Our guest recommends the book titled: Triumph of the City by Edward L. Glaeser for anyone interested in learning more about urbanization and the mind of the modern city. Remember to share, listen, subscribe, leave a review: https://anchor.fm/pointers-in-10 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pointers-in-10/message

Liba Beyer, director of Human Rights Watch Global Campaigns and an NYU Wagner alum, discuss the importance of communicating human rights to produce social change. She shares her strategies to garner the attention in over-crowded digital spaces, and the skills needed to make an impact on society. She provides an analysis on various human rights issues including the death penalty and voting restorations. Beyer runs Persuasion Lab at Human Rights Watch, she explains the mission of this lab is to “figure out the tactics and tools that will move hearts and minds on human rights values to evaluate impacts in communications and audience growth/brand lift.” Finally, she describes her vision of an ideal advocacy campaign. Guest Speaker Liba Beyer joined Human Rights Watch in 2002 and has made significant impact in her many roles including expanding the Human Rights Watch Council by opening both the Chicago and Toronto offices. Liba currently leads the Public Advocacy, where she engages donors and public constituents in high level global advocacy campaigns and serves as the liaison between supporters in thirty two cities with the programmatic work and advocacy priorities of the organization. Liba has helped produce hundreds of international special events, donor trips and multi-polar advocacy campaigns. Liba received an MPA from NYU Wagner under a fully sponsored Jewish leader fellowship.  

Professor Cyril Ghosh, author of “De-Moralizing Gay Rights: Some Queer Remarks on LGBTQ+ Rights Politics in the US” and Adjunct Associate Professor at NYU Wagner, examines the role of the Supreme Court in guaranteeing (or not) LGBTQ+ rights in the United States. He explains criticisms on the landmark case "Obergefell v. Hodges" that ruled in favor of same-sex marriage, examines the consequences of “pinkwashing,” and describes what to expect from the Supreme Court after the Trump Administration. Ghosh offers insight on what will probably be the next big LGBQT+ issue to reach the Supreme Court, and describes what can be done to impact these issues.

Kristin Van Busum, an NYU Wagner ‘10 alum and founder of the social enterprise Project Alianza, describes the merits, challenges, and takeaways of starting your own business. She explains the bottom-up educational solutions that her organization provides within farming communities of Latin America. In this podcast episode with Rhea Almeida and Luisa Portugal, Kristin describes the importance of working with local governments, the challenges of fundraising, and key takeaways from her time education experience at NYU Wagner.  Guest Speaker Kristin is founder and CEO of Project Alianza, a woman-led social enterprise that provides education for children living in remote farming communities in Latin America, and a NYU Wagner alumni, having finished her MPA in 2010. She is cofounder of WomenSpeaks, a BostonSpeaks initiative that champions the advancement of women as effective communicators and leaders. She is a TEDx and keynote speaker, Fulbright Scholar, Aspen Institute Fellow, and was a Gold Winner in the MassChallenge Boston accelerator for high-impact startups where she is currently the Social Impact Entrepreneur in Residence. Prior to founding Project Alianza, she worked at RAND Corporation, a global policy think tank.

Today's podcast is includes an informative introduction to the Urban Planning specialization at NYU, with our special guest Jacquelyn Spade a MUP candidate. She will share her insights on the urban planning specialization at NYU, how it impacts communities, and how urban design perpetuates racial inequality. She also examines the top down vs. bottom up planning, disciplines within the fundamental ideologies of planning, the importance of green space, and the importance of our live environment in positive habit formation. Guest Speaker Jacquelyn Spade is a second-year MUP Candidate at NYU Wagner specializing in International Development Planning. She currently interns for Komera doing data analysis. She has an academic background in Sustainable Community Development with a specialization in Climate Change and Green Infrastructure from the University of Massachusetts – Amherst. Her professional background in management and renewable energy having spent time as a Fellow at the Massachusetts Clean Energy Center working on their SolarizeMass program.

One week before the 2020 election, Wagner Womxn's panel explores what it means to be a womxn in the political sphere.  They discuss identity politics, the importance of women's engagement in politics, and what NYU Wagner students can do to get out the vote in our own community. Panelists include De'Ara Balenger, co-founder of Maestra and former director of engagement for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign; Jen Bendery, senior political reporter at HuffPost; Charlotte Clymer, activist and writer; Dianne Morales, candidate for Mayor of New York City; Kunoor Ojha, chief of staff for the Green New Deal Network and Elizabeth Warren presidential campaign alum; and Christina Reynolds, vice president of communications at Emily's List; moderated by Professor Katherine Grainger, co-founder of Supermajority. Transcript [0:00] Introduction by Alexis Richards, NYU MPA Candidate, President of Wagner Womxn, and staff writer for NYU Wagner Review, [01:15] Katherine Grainger begins moderating and asks the guest speakers to introduce themselves, [02:47] Kunoor Ojha introduces herself and discuss her role as an organizer, [04:09] Dianne Morales, the first afro-latina candidate for NYC Mayor, introducers herself and discuss her role as an educator, [05:10] Christina Reynolds briefly discuss her years of professional experience, [05:47] Charlotte Clymer briefly discuss her past experience, and her role in the upcoming elections, [06:42] Jennifer Bendery discuss her journalism role and topics she has covered, [07:10] Katherine Grainger begins asking the panelist questions, [36:03] De'Ara Balenger joins the group of panelist, introduces her past professional experience, and continues the conversation on voting.

In this fight for American democracy, the VOTE 2020 initiative at NYU Wagner has three goals: (1) to encourage everyone in the NYU community to vote, (2) to enable community members to find volunteer opportunities to ensure greater voter engagement across the country, (3) to fund students to work for non-partisan, get-out-the-vote operations. Luisa Portugal sits down with Professor Erica Foldy and the Vote 2020 Cohort, represented by NYU Wagner MPA candidates' Alexis Richards and Abe Nelson, to discuss their efforts during the presidential election , the Vote2020 Fellowship and how students can get involved with the program. Transcript [0:00] Introduction by Tiffany Rose Miller, Editor-in-Chief of NYU Wagner Review [00:45] Erica Foldy, an NYU Wagner professor, discuss Vote 2020's initiative efforts, [1:18] Luisa Portugal begins moderating, first question ask how Vote 2020 was started, [3:12] Alexis Richards and Abraham Nelson, Co-Directors of VOTE 2020, discuss their involvement with the initiative, [6:30] Alexis and Abe discuss how NYU students can get involved with election efforts, [12:46] Things to know when voting by mail.

This podcast features a speaker panel of experts and leaders in the field climate change. They discuss what environmental advocacy looks like one year after the monumental Climate Change protests in 2019, while also considering the backdrop of 2020. The panel then reviewed rollbacks and changes in regulations that took place under the current Administration, as well as individual states' activities and responses to those actions. They discussed how activism in 2020 has been shaped by ongoing unprecedented events and challenges of getting the Green New Deal legislation passed in Congress Panelist included speakers from varying points in their roles as activists including Janiece Watts of Fresh Energy, Ben Longstreth of NRDC, and Joe Hobbs of Fridays for Future. They will explore how to best to combat Climate Change through an activism lens particularly while we are still living through a global pandemic. The panel is moderated by Carolyn Kissane, Clinical Professor at NYU School of Professional Studies. Transcript [0:00] Welcome from Gioia Kennedy, NYU Wagner student and Chair of ACE, [00:24] Gioia Kennedy reads The Alliance for Climate Change and Environment's mission statement, [1:40] Matt Minner, NYU Wagner student and Co-events Chair of ACE, introduces the speakers and moderator, [5:48] Dr. Carolyn Kissane begins the panel discussion, [7:07] Ben Longstreth discuss his work as a climate advocate, [11:16] Janiece Watts explains her path to activism, [18:44] Joe Hobbs walks us through his passion for climate activism at such a young age.

Podcast Description "When I was growing up, my white friends would say: if I was around during slavery I never would have...I would have taken you and all that stuff and it's like, okay. Well this is this is a version of it right now, you know, so what are you going to do it when it counts, you know, it's obvious we're not enslaved in that way. But every generation has a uprising moment like you either get to be courageous or you get to be cautious and which one is it going to be?" Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color. She is the best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is an Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner. She has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, ​Fast​ ​Company​, The Guardian​, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Levi's, Google, and Bloomberg on topics such as Leadership, Managing Diverse Teams and Self-Advocacy. She also hosts a weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. Transcription Coming Soon! Twitter Minda Harts Become a #causeascene Podcast sponsor because disruption and innovation are products of individuals who take bold steps in order to shift the collective and challenge the status quo. Learn more > All music for the #causeascene podcast is composed and produced by Chaos, Chao Pack, and Listen on SoundCloud. Listen to more great #causeascene podcasts full podcast list >

On this episode of the TBG Real Estate Podcast, we continue our Impact Real Estate series with Michael Lear, the Senior Vice President and Head of Acquisitions at The Community Development Trust. Michael walks us through his journey from the public to the private sector and goes through the ins and outs of converting market-rate housing to affordable housing. It's an information-rich episode of the TBG Real Estate Podcast you do not want to miss.EPISODE NOTES:02:30 - What is the CDT?05:29 - A fundamental belief07:10 - Alphabet soup10:05 - Dependent on motivation12:30 - Converting market-rate to affordable14:40 - The root structure16:21 - Why is CDT mission-driven?20:25 - Describing the job23:52 - Finding partnerships24:52 - The skillset toolbox28:28 - Falling into real estate33:52 - I recommend this "100%"...35:12 - Government partnerships36:26 - From public to private sector40:42 - Asset management experience is vital43:20 - Staying stable during Covid: A time of real uncertainty48:12 - The Hot Seat presented by KK ResetMichael Lear is Senior Vice President – Head of Acquisitions. Michael manages all activities of CDT’s Equity Program Group. He has been with CDT since 2011 with experience in both the Asset Management and Equity departments. Michael has spent his entire career in the field of affordable housing policy, development, and finance.Prior to joining CDT, Michael served as Deputy Director of Housing Policy Research at the New York City Department of Housing Preservation and Development. He holds a Master’s Degree in Urban Planning from NYU Wagner and a Bachelor of Science and Engineering in Materials Science Engineering from the University of Michigan. He has previously taught Real Estate Finance at NYU Wagner.

Presented by NYU Wagner Health Network (WHN) and Wagner International Student Society (WISS).   This discussion will feature international students from NYU Wagner's MPA-Health program, that share how their respective home countries have been responding to the COVID-19 pandemic. They will also critically analyze public health policies to identify areas for improvement, and a potential for adoption by other countries.   Meet the panelists: Chiamaka Ojiako: Nigeria Rouding Wang: China Kyaolin Rajbhandary: Nepal   Moderator: Hanan Almarzooqi   Transcript 0:00: Welcome from moderator Hanan Almarzooqi 00:34 Introduction of first speaker Kyaolin Rajbhandary 17:33 Introduction of second speaker Chiamaka Ojiako 42:43 Introduction of third speaker Rouding Wan Rouding Wang

Sherry Glied, a health economist and Dean of New York University's Wagner School, walks us through her professional journey: starting out as a labor economist to being part of the team who designed the Affordable Care Act. Glied gives us insight into her time at Washington, D.C. working on health policy under the Bush, Clinton and Obama administrations, and analyzes the ins and outs of Presidential Candidate Joe Biden's healthcare policy. Finally she gives a glimpse into her past and present life in academia during her time at Harvard, Columbia, and now NYU. Guest Speaker: Sherry Glied is Dean of New York University's Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service. From 1989-2013, she was Professor of Health Policy and Management at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health. She was Chair of the Department of Health Policy and Management from 1998-2009. On June 22, 2010, Glied was confirmed by the U.S. Senate as Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation at the Department of Health and Human Services, and served in that capacity from July 2010 through August 2012. She had previously served as Senior Economist for health care and labor market policy on the President's Council of Economic Advisers in 1992-1993, under Presidents Bush and Clinton, and participated in the Clinton Health Care Task Force. She has been elected to the National Academy of Medicine, the National Academy of Social Insurance, and served as a member of the Commission on Evidence-Based Policymaking.

On this episode of Coronacast, we focus on the global south. NYU Wagner students Teguh Sassongko takes us through the crash of the tourism industry amidst the COVID-19 pandemic, with a special look at his home country of Indonesia. Next, fellow student Ana Maria Raymundo discusses the gaps in governance in the Philippines, and how civil society organizations are stepping up. Tune in for our first international episode as we also give you a quick recap of world news this week.   NEWS SEGMENT LINKS: Many killed as Cyclone Amphan tears into India, Bangladesh coasts Brazil widens use of malaria drugs in mild coronavirus cases On tape, Bolsonaro cites protecting his family in push to swap top Rio cop: source Will Mandatory Face Masks End the Burqa Bans? Brazil Has The 2nd-Highest Number Of The Coronavirus Cases In The World An Incalculable Loss (NYT Front Page) ORGANIZATIONS MENTIONED BY ANA MARIA: Aha! Learning  Center Move Food Initiative COVID-19 Citizen Budget Tracker

On this election-special episode, NYU Wagner students Abe Nelson and Alexis Richards discuss the pandemic and universal ‘Vote by Mail' – a policy that could allow all American voters to mail in their ballots in the 2020 Presidential election. Could this keep voters safe amidst the Coronavirus outbreak? We break down the pros and possible cons for you, while also providing a short news update of the week.   THE OBSTACLES: Printing and sending a ballot and prepaid return envelope to every registered American, then processing those ballots, would easily cost $2 billion. New procedures would need to be put in place rapidly in 45 states (UT, HI, OR, WA, and CO already have universal vote by mail), since states run their own elections. President Trump claimed voting by mail is vulnerable to fraud and harmful to Republican candidates. Many states actively suppress voter access, especially for voters of color. These same states were disproportionately active in purging 17 million voters from voting rolls between 2016 – 2018. There is currently little incentive for these state officials to change course. TRANSCRIPT: 0:00: Welcome from hosts Rhea and Luisa 0:40: News segment  3:50: Interview with Abe and Alexis 18:16: Wrap up   NEWS SEGMENT LINKS: At Senate Hearing, Government Experts Paint Bleak Picture of the Pandemic Trump calls Fauci remarks on risks to reopening schools, economy unacceptable As more than two-thirds of states reopen, the U.S. faces a delicate moment. New York Extends Stay-At-Home Order, Allows Some Areas To Begin Reopening FDA clears home testing kits  Portugal gives migrants and asylum-seekers full citizenship rights during coronavirus outbreak Moderna Coronavirus Vaccine Trial Shows Promising Early Results Trump says he has been taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug whose effectiveness against the virus is unproven. VOTE BY MAIL RESOURCES/LINKS: Fair Fight When We All Vote Vote Save America | Vote Safe, America ACLU People Power Let America Vote

Thom Blaylock, NYU Wagner's Clinical Professor of Public Policy, sits down with Wagner Review hosts Rhea Almeida and Luisa Portugal to discuss the historical backdrop of podcast and its role in American politics. A veteran podcaster and co-host of his own successful series, Professor Blaylock highlights the importance of strategic agenda-setting to grab the attention of listeners.   Related NYU Wagner Course MSPP-GP 2100 Communication Skills for the Policy Analyst Related Podcast Thom Blaylock's podcast series titled ‘Dungeon Dads'

Throughout the COVID-19 pandemic in New York City, food security continues to be a growing concern for residents. With the state seeing millions file for unemployment, mutual aid projects have stepped up to ensure communities in need receive adequate food to feed their families. David Aronov comes on The Wagner Review Podcast Series to discuss mutual aid projects he is involved in, and how he formed specific aid groups to target high-risk communities during the COVID-19 pandemic. TRANSCRIPT: 0:00- Welcome and introduction from host Kyle Roland. 1:45- David Aronov walks us through mutual aid efforts in his community. Guest Speaker David Aronov is a first-generation American who served as the president of the Wagner Student Association from 2019-2020 and is a class of 2020 graduate of NYU Wagner with an MPA degree. He co-founded a nonprofit organization called the Bukharian Jewish Union (BJU), which serves as the central hub for the social, cultural, and professional growth of Bukharian Jews in their 20's and 30's. David currently works for NYC Census 2020 as Queens Lead Organizer, focused on ensuring the people of Queens receive their fair share of billions of dollars in federal funding from the 2020 Census for hospitals, transit authorities, schools, and libraries.

In this episode, I chat to Minda Harts, founder of The Memo LLC, Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner and author of the best-selling, 'The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table".  Our conversation covers barriers Black and brown women face in the workplace, how we can begin to change workplace cultures that are harmful to Black and brown women and what we really think about corporations' responses to #BlackLivesMatter as well as the impact of institutional and structural racism and violence on Black people. Connect with Minda: IG and Twitter: @mindaharts / www.mindaharts.com. Connect with me: IG: @sihlebolani / Twitter: @SihleBolani_ / www.sihlebolani.com 

Democratizing our data - A manifesto. Improving the design of metrics, collection of data, analysis and decision-making at the federal level Prof. Julia Lane is a Professor at the New York University Wagner Graduate School of Public Service and an NYU Fellow for Innovation Analytics. She is a senior advisor in the Office of the Federal CIO at the White House, supporting the implementation of the Federal Data Strategy. She cofounded the Coleridge Initiative, whose goal is to use data to transform the way governments access and use data for the social good through training programs, research projects, and a secure data facility. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/scientificsense/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/scientificsense/support

Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color. She is the best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is an Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner. She has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, ​Fast​ ​Company​, The Guardian​, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Levi's, Google, and Bloomberg on topics such as Leadership, Managing Diverse Teams and Self-Advocacy. She also hosts a weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. https://mindaharts.comSupport the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/BlkWomenRising)

Check out our first, LIVE podcast episode!Career Thrivers is hosting The Thrive Together Conference, the premier online inclusive leadership development experience with over 40 speakers, 60 sessions, across 7 days covering 3 tracks - career, business and wellness. One of our keynote speakers, Minda Harts, lead an incredible session on Advancing Women of Color in the Workplace! Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color. She is the best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is an Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner. She has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Fast Company, The Guardian, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Levi's, Google, and Bloomberg on topics such as Leadership, Managing Diverse Teams and Self-Advocacy. She also hosts a weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. You can connect with Minda and purchase her best-selling book at http://mindaharts.com/

Have you ever experienced a situation where you got invited to a party and with anxious excitement you dress to impress only to walk in and find everyone wearing their favorite superhero costume? Leaving you wondering...wait….how did I NOT get THAT Memo!? Well, in this episode, we get to know Minda Harts, author of the best-selling book, The Memo, where she shares actionable advice on challenges, from microaggressions to building your network of supporters. Minda is an Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner. She has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, FastCompany, The Guardian, and Time Magazine. She also hosts a weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. In this episode, Minda shares how she found the courage to write this book and share vulnerable authentic stories of what it’s like to advance your career in light of the inequality and outright discrimination many women of color experience in the workplace.   Highlights: [02:11] Minda’s journey to writing The Memo [05:28] Getting comfortable with self-promotion [09:23] Building relationships with leadership [13:02] Secure the seat [15:17] Overcoming limiting beliefs [19:59] Dealing with microaggressions [24:20] Building your community [25:21] Identifying your inner circle [27:44] Minda’s Book, “The Memo” [30:45] Asking for help [35:06] The importance of vulnerability   Quotes: “Part of securing the seat is owning the space that you that you want to create.” – Minda Harts “Learn how to have courageous conversations with your colleagues, this will allow them to be courageous listeners.” – Minda Harts “Lean into your courage and push aside your caution because we will never know if we don't ask.” – Minda Harts   “When someone in senior leadership asks you how you are doing, don’t respond with fine, let them know the great things you are working on.” – Minda Harts “In order to change the way the workplace works for women of color, it's going to require us to talk about some things that we hadn't talked about out loud.” – Minda Harts About Minda Harts: Minda Harts is the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color. She is the best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is an Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner. She has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, FastCompany, The Guardian, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Levi's, Google, and Bloomberg on topics such as Leadership, Managing Diverse Teams and Self-Advocacy. She also hosts a weekly podcast called Secure The Seat.   Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mindaharts/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MindaHarts Facebook: @mindaharts Websites: http://mindaharts.com/ & https://www.myweeklymemo.com/  

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This week's episode features the amazing Minda Harts. Minda is the CEO of The Memo LLC, a career development platform for women of color. She is the best-selling author of The Memo: What Women of Color Need To Know To Secure A Seat At The Table. Minda is an Assistant Professor at NYU Wagner. She has been featured on MSNBC's Morning Joe, Fast Company, The Guardian, and Time Magazine. Minda frequently speaks at companies like Microsoft, Levi's, Google, and Bloomberg on topics such as Leadership, Managing Diverse Teams and Self-Advocacy. She also hosts a weekly podcast called Secure The Seat. Episode Sponsor: Idaltu Counseling and Consulting Website: www.idaltucc.com Social: @Idaltu_Counseling Connect with Minda: Website: www.MindaHarts.com Social: @MindaHarts Connect with Medicine In Color Social Channels: @MedicineInColor

Rae Zimmerman, Ph.D., research professor at NYU Wagner, discusses the new challenges for risk analysts posed by the COVID-19 pandemic, from a NYC perspective. 

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We have the pleasure of speaking with Minda Harts, the founder and CEO of The Memo LLC, a career platform that helps women of color advance in the workplace. She speaks with us about a number of topics, including her new book coming out later this year titled "The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know to Secure a Seat at the Table" and some ugly truths she says keeps women of color from securing their own.Check out Minda on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram, and don't forget to preorder her book from wherever you buy books!Connect with us! https://linktr.ee/livingcorporateTRANSCRIPTAde: Welcome to Living Corporate. This is Ade, and Zach isn't here today, but we do have an interview we had with the wonderful Minda Harts. Minda describes herself as a founder, philanthropist, and seat creator, which--seat creator is incredible to me as a phrase in and of itself, but Minda is a beast. She is an adjunct professor of public service of NYU's Robert F. Wagner's Graduate School of Public Service. That was a mouthful. She's also the founder of The Memo LLC, which actually I got regularly in my inbox, faithfully, before we even had a conversation with Minda. It's a career development company for women of color, and her debut book, which is called The Memo, comes out this fall with the Hachette Book Group/Seal Press. She's been featured in Forbes, CNBC, The Guardian, The Washington Post, and Fast Company. You can also tune in weekly for her career podcast as well for professional women of color called Secure the Seat. So obviously you can see that there's been some overlap in our interests as well as Minda's. Minda has conducted workshops all over the world and keynotes with ad corporations like Time Inc. Y'all may have heard of that little shop. South by Southwest. It's this popular little thing. You may not have heard of it. The Campaign for Black Male Achievement and the New York Public Library. She's also been at universities like Western Illinois University, NYU Stern, North Carolina A&T, and Cornell University. All that said, you may be expecting a few things from listening to this conversation, and what you're gonna hear between her and Zach will be some amazing strategies for women of color. So keep listening. We don't have any Favorite Things for you this week, 'cause y'all know how I am, but got you next week, promise. See you soon. This has been Ade. Peace.Zach: Minda, welcome to the show. How are you doing?Minda: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, Zach.Zach: Oh, no problem at all. Really excited to have you here. Would you mind--for those of us who don't know you, tell us a little bit about yourself. Minda: Yeah. So my name is Minda Harts, and I am the founder and CEO of a career platform that helps women of color advance in the workplace called The Memo, and prior to The Memo I spent 15 years in corporate and non-profit spaces as a consultant. And I also teach at NYU Wagner and have a book coming out later this year called The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know to Secure a Seat at the Table.Zach: That's incredible. Now, look, let's kick this off with this question, 'cause I think it's a good preface for this discussion. So you were recently quoted in a piece by the New York Times speaking to the anxieties around the motherhood penalty, and you said, "Because we are often only one or two or few in the company, we strategically have to plan our every move." Could you talk to us a little bit more about what you mean? Not only in the context of bringing your kids to work or having children, but being strategic period as a black woman and, larger, as a woman of color.Minda: Yeah, absolutely. I think that in that article too I also say that, you know, "A joyous day for one mother or father is mental gymnastics for another," and I think that often times, if you are the only ones, dependent upon how you're being treated in the workplace, you may or may not want your child to come to work with you because of how you've been treated in the workplace. And I think when we talk of micro-aggressions and bias and white privilege, I think our counterparts often don't think of what that means for us to show up. So again, you know, the pizza party in the jumpy house might be fun for all the other kids, but, you know, if I'm the only one in the workplace and I'm already dealing with all of this other stuff, you know, do I want to be subjected to that while my child is there with me? You know, so we have to think through. And then if one bad thing happens, our counterpart's child is being cute, but our child is being bad, you know? So we have to think about what those messages are. So each day, whether you have children or you don't, we have to really be strategic and calculate every step.Zach: So let's talk about your podcast also for a second--it's fire--called Secure the Seat.Minda: Thank you.Zach: No problem. What was your journey in, like, creating that space?Minda: Yeah. You know what's funny? I would say I battled myself for almost a year before I started Secure the Seat. I just didn't see myself as a podcaster. I thought, "Well, I have The Memo," the career platform with my co-founder Lauren. "We're fine over here," but what I realized was I was missing out on talking to some of the other issues that I think people of color, women of color, face, and also how can our allies or how can those who don't identify the way we do, how can they be helpful? And I think that part of a seat at the table is it's great to be at the table, but securing it looks much different, and also passing that baton, bringing others that look like us in the room with us, and I think we don't talk about that enough as people of color.Zach: I recognize your entire brand, your entire platform, is really wrapped around or centered around empowering women of color in the workplace and just period, and we know that you have a book coming out called The Memo. Can you talk to us a little bit about what led you to work on this book and write this book? And was it a similar journey to the Secure the Seat podcast? Was there any one moment that really hit you and sparked the fire and made you say, "Hey, I need to write this."?Minda: Yeah. It's interesting, because I had an idea back in 2012. So now, you know, it's 2019, so sometimes we just sit on things for a long time, right? And I knew I wanted to do something, but I didn't know what that something was, and it didn't manifest itself until 2015. And I realized that--what is my legacy going to be in Corporate America? What is my legacy going to be in the non-profit sector? And if there aren't people advocating for women that look like me, for, you know, men that might identify as, you know, people of color, then who--if no one else is gonna do it, then I need to be stepping up to the plate and add my unique slice of genius to this puzzle, because it's one thing to get yourself in the room, but if you're not bringing others along with you or sharing that secret sauce, then what are we doing, right? And so when we think about those who came before us, like the Harriet Tubmans, the Frederick Douglasses, the Malcolm Xs, they secured the seat so we could secure our seat, right? And so I want to be one of those people that played a role, even if it's a small role, in just having people think different. We talk a lot about leaning in, but what we're seeing is a lot of us are leaning out, and that's what I don't want to happen, because we've worked too hard to step away now.Zach: Absolutely. And it's interesting. I read a piece recently saying that leaning in does not work if you're a black woman. If you're a woman of color, like, it doesn't work. And I'm not using women of color and black women interchangeably because those are unique experiences and identities, but what I mean is that, like, even that language and, like, some of the frameworks in which we discuss these things, they are centered around whiteness, and some of these to be looked at or examined differently when you're talking about black and brown experiences. Your whole point around leaning out, that's really interesting. Can you, like, talk a little bit more about what you--like, what do you mean by people are leaning out as others are trying to lean in?Minda: Yeah. So we talk a lot about diversity and inclusion and equity, in terms of marginalized or underrepresented groups, and what we're seeing is that--at least for black women in particular, that a lot of us are leaving Corporate America and starting our own companies, and--which is great, that is to be celebrated, but we're leaving because of frustration, because we're not being invested in, because all of the education that we've obtained is not moving us forward. And so if they're not moving us forward, we're moving out, right? And so we're being cut off from this opportunity on the corporate side to obtain generational wealth in that regard, because the reality is not all of us will be successful entrepreneurs when we leave the traditional workforce. And so I'm saying that we almost have no choice but to kind of lean out of that, and my thing is, like, let's put the pressure on these companies for us to--for them to let us have a stake in the ground and move us up, if they say that's what they want to do. Zach: Now, look, I'm not trying to have you give out the sauce for free, but your website says that The Memo addresses some of the ugly truths that keep women of color from the table. Again, without you giving the whole book away on the podcast, could you talk a little bit about what some of those ugly truths are?Minda: Yeah. So I can't give all the sauce, but you can go and preorder it wherever you like to buy books.Zach: Ow. Yes.Minda: 'Ey. [laughs] Help me secure my seat. But what I will say is a lot of the business books, a lot of the career books, are centered--as you said--around the experience of white people in the workplace, right? And then we read those books, and we take what we can out of 'em and make that one-size-fit-all work for us, and I'm saying no. There are unique experiences that I've had as a black woman and that other women of color have experienced in similar ways, and I want to shine a lot on that "You don't understand what it's like showing up in a--being the one out of 90 employees," being that only person of color. And I know I speak from the lens of being a black woman and a woman of color, but I believe this book is important because as we talk about the future of work, this will require anybody who sees themselves in a management position to understand the unique experiences of their talent, and that requires all hands on deck.Zach: 100% right. And it's so interesting when we talk about the future of work and we talk about how workforces are getting browner, right? The next five to ten, fifteen, twenty years, like, the workforce will look dramatically different than it does today, and it's gonna be more and more important for there to be content and thought leadership around "What does it mean to be other?" Right? And again, as the workforces get browner, that doesn't mean that leadership is necessarily gonna get browner, but it does mean that there are gonna be more non-white folks in these spaces who are gonna, like, be new to these spaces. So what is it gonna mean for them to navigate and really be effective and be successful and not drive themselves crazy, for the lack of a better word, in trying to, like, really navigate and how they can really operate and be successful here. And so really speaking to that--you already alluded to this a little bit, about allyship. So I believe black and brown folks aren't really gonna go far in the corporate space without strong allies. Can you talk a little bit about what good allyship means to you or what allyship looks like to you?Minda: Yeah, absolutely. And that's--and you made a really great point. Just because the workforce itself is becoming more Crayola-like, right? More colors added to the spectrum, but it doesn't mean that the leadership is going to be, and that's the part that I'm like, "No." The future of work requires us to be at that table too, and so part of that allyship, that leadership--at least in my book I talk about shifting the language, because a lot of people are wearing this allyship badge like it's a sticker, right? Like I could go to any local store and just put this badge on and that's--and I'm good, and really I'm saying "Let's shift it to success partners." And I talk about that in my book. It's like, "No, you partner with me on the success." You know, "What is it gonna take for me to be where you are?" Or, you know, you provide a road map for me, an accelerated opportunity. I've been here, I've done the work, and it's gonna require people adding more seats, and when I was in Corporate America I had this one white man--shout-out to Steve. I don't know where you are today, but--Zach: Shout-out to Steve. Put the air horns on for Steve. [imitating the horns]Minda: [laughs] Yes, yes, and he had the privilege. He had the status, you know? He had the agency to be able to say, "I see you," and, you know, "Come through, pull up, and let me give you the shot," and I think more and more people in privileged positions need to be giving others that opportunity, because you'll never know what I'm able to do if I never have that opportunity to do it, and that requires you to partner with me.Zach: Man, 100%, and I can say that there was--there's not been anything that I've been able to achieve in my professional career that has not been, in some level, like, strong support from some white person, right? Like, in the corporate space. Like, I cannot look back and be like, "I did this by myself." I always tell people that I mentor--typically I'm mentoring black folks, also some brown folks, and I'll say, you know, "What's behind every strong black or brown person?" And they'll typically--99% of the time they'll say, "Their parents or their partner?" I'll be like, "No, a white person." And they laugh, but it's true. When you're talking about that sponsorship, allyship--like, when you talk about that support, someone using their privilege so that you can secure your seat at the table, like, you need that. I just don't think that it's practical or reasonable to expect that if you are a minority in these spaces that your very small network on your own is gonna be able to achieve and grow and get everything that you want to have, you know? You need some partnership. You said that--I loved that. "Success partners." So, like, could you just expand on that a little bit more? 'Cause I really like the way that's reframed. Can you talk--just unpack that a little bit more, about success partners?Minda: Yeah. Well, thank you, first and foremost, but I think it's--like you said, the majority right now is, you know, white men and women at these tables, making these decisions, and so they're gonna have to look out of the ivory tower and say, "You know what? Let's identify some people that are not in the room, that have talent, that have the ability if they had the opportunity. Let me partner with them and give them these accelerated career paths," and I think that's the only way we're going to do it, is for them to look around the room, take the time to see who's missing, and go and get them, right? Because we're there. It's not--it's not a pipeline issue, but if we keep leaning out due to frustration, then it will be a pipeline issue. So allyship is great, but now we need to shift into this partnership. So partner with somebody who's missing from the room and bring them up. And it's not charity. It's just giving people an opportunity, because 9 times out of 10 they have the opportunity to get to where they are.Zach: That's the wild part too, is that it's not charity. The people that you're identifying, the people that are out there that are not in the room--there's plenty of people out there that should be in the room more than you should be in there, right? Like, there are people out there that have earned it. But that's a really good point too, but I think--I don't know. I've seen it where--like, I've had people who have been allies to me, and there's a certain kind of sense of charity, right? Like they're doing me a favor. And I take it anyway, Minda, 'cause, like, hey, look, I'm just tryna get to the bag. So, like, hey, if you feel like you're doing me a favor, go ahead and feel like you're doing me a favor.Minda: Exactly, exactly. [laughs]Zach: But, you know, when you talk in terms of just, like, internally, intrinsically, you're not--that's a toxic mindset to have, and it's false, right? And it's kind of racist, lowkey, 'cause it's like, "No, this person has earned it." Like, I've seen--you tell me if you've seen this before, but I've seen in the working space where there's people who have exceled and they'll, like--they're seen as, like, really top performers, and then you kind of just, like, peel back a couple layers--you're like, "You're not that sweet. You're not that good." You know what I'm saying? [laughs]Minda: [laughs] If we were doing some, like, hardcore Inspector Gadget work, I think we would find out that a lot of people who are in that room should not be in that room. I was passed over for a promotion that they were quote-unquote "grooming me" for, right? And they ended up not giving it to me, and I had to--I typically wasn't the type of person to kind of challenge this, but I'm like, "Wait, I've worked here way too long for this to have happened to me," and I respectfully asked, you know, "Why did you decide to bring in someone who had less experience than me, has never really done this job?" And the response--I kid you not, it was, you know, "You're young. You're gonna have more opportunities. He's a good guy with a nice wife."[record scratch]Zach: Wow. Minda: [laughs]Zach: But then, see, if you threw a table or something, they would say you were crazy. That's nuts. Wow.Minda: I was crazy. I was crazy. Okay, but I've been working here 10+ years, grinding, hustling, taking on all of the top projects, and you're gonna tell me that someone who has 2 years experience, doesn't have the relationships I have, but because he's A. a white man--I don't know that that's necessarily why, but he was a white man and is a white man, and he has a nice wife. I'm like, "Okay. That's where we are." And in that moment, I realized that this is not the table I need to be at, because I'm gonna keep working my butt off and doing all of these great things. And I couldn't--I wasn't in a position, to be honest with you, to leave when that happened. I had to stay in that position another year and a half heart-broken while I helped him get up to speed before I was able to leave. And so where do the broken hearts go, right? So yeah.Zach: That's why I'm just so excited. I love the work that you're doing. I love your platform because--obviously I've watched you from afar as like--you're outspoken, you're courageous, you're gregarious, you're relationship-driven, you're a strong networker, all of these different things, but you shouldn't have to be all of those things to get the support that you need at your job, right? Like, there's plenty of people out there--black and brown folks out here who are a little bit more reserved and who aren't as sure and things of that nature, and they're struggling. Like, you just said, "Where do the broken hearts go?" There's plenty of people at work right now who don't want to be there, who don't feel supported, but don't know what to do, and that's just all the more reason why your platform is so important, so I just want to thank you again for even having it. Before we go, do you have any parting words?Minda: Well, first off I want to say thank you, and thank you to podcasts and platforms like yours, because we all need each other, right? When you're successful, you're successful. When I'm successful, you're successful. And there can be so many different ways that we get this information out to all of the broken hearts, right? And I think it's really important that we talk about experiences, and it was a journey. I just want to leave everyone saying that the Minda I am talking to Zach right now, it was a process. It was a journey. It was a process. I was not this outspoken. I was not--I've always been driven, but what I'd say a silent assassin, right? Like, I didn't really do a lot of vocalizing, but I realized that there a lot of people who, like you said, are not in a position to speak for themselves, and if I can help talk about the stuff that they can't in these settings and their bosses hear about it or read the book, then we're winning together.Zach: I love that, and you know what? Also before we go, go ahead and please plug your stuff. Like, where can people learn about you? Where can people preorder the book? Where can we get more of Minda Harts?Minda: Well, thank you. This is really important to me, this book, because when we were pitching it to the publishing houses, my agent and I, we kept hearing that there's not a--there's no one that would want to hear this. There's not an audience for this type of material, and there is, right? And so please go and preorder this book. Let's go and show the powers that be that we matter, our experiences matter. It doesn't matter if you're a woman of color or not, but there are career nuggets in here that will help each and every one of us who are underrepresented in the workforce. So wherever you like to buy books, it's "The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know to Secure a Seat at the Table," and I'm most active on Twitter @MindaHarts, so find me there.Zach: Ay. First of all, Minda, thank you again, and thank y'all for joining us on the Living Corporate podcast. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @LivingCorporate, Twitter @LivingCorp_Pod, and subscribe to our newsletter through living-corporate.com, please say the dash. Or you could say livingcorporate.co, livingcorporate.org. We've got all the livingcorporates except for livingcorporate.com, 'cause Australia got that. Australia, we're still looking at y'all. You need to give us that domain. Don't play. If you have a question you'd like for us to answer and read on the show, look, just DM us, right? Like, get in our Insta DMs, get in our Twitter DMs. They're always open, right? Or you can just email us at livingcorporatepodcast@gmail.com. Also, don't forget to check out our Patreon @LivingCorporate as well. And that does it for us on the show. This has been Zach. You've been talking with the--that's right, the--Minda Harts. Catch y'all next time. Peace.

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How do you get a nonprofit job? This is a big question that we hear from all kinds of job seekers: recent college graduates, corporate employees who want to switch careers, and government workers who want to continue to serve the public. Like the question, the nonprofit sector is big. Almost 11 million Americans work for nonprofits in all kinds of jobs, from running soup kitchens and serving Girl Scouts, to managing organizations with billion dollar budgets. Starting and maintaining a nonprofit career can be challenge. There’s a lot of competition for social good gigs, and professionals in the private sector may perceive cultural barriers to entry into the nonprofit space. Plus, there’s the question of how to making a living while working for a nonprofit.   This week on Find Your Dream Job Mac talks with a nonprofit expert: Allison Jones, Marketing and Publications Director at the Nonprofit Technology Enterprise Network. Allison previously worked at Idealist.org and as a career-focused journalist. In this episode she discusses the different pathways to entering the nonprofit sector and her tips for building a rewarding social good career. In this 34-minute episode you will learn: Why you need to get specific when you think about a nonprofit career Different ways that people enter the nonprofit space What nonprofit hiring managers are looking for in new employees The most enlightening questions you can ask in nonprofit-focused informational interviews Why language matters when you apply for a nonprofit job Salary and benefit expectations for the nonprofit sector This week’s guest: Allison Jones (@ajlovesya | LinkedIn)Marketing & Publications Director Nonprofit Technology Enterprise Network (NTEN)New York, N.Y. Listener question of the week:  How important is volunteer experience when applying for nonprofit jobs? Do you have a question you’d like us to answer on a future episode? Please send your questions to Cecilia Bianco, Mac’s List Community Manager at cecilia@macslist.org. Resources referenced on this week’s show: CharityNavigator.org GlassDoor.com Salary.com Nonprofit Technology Enterprise Network (NTEN) NYU Wagner Career Tracks Exercise Idealist.org Craigslist.com National Council of Nonprofits - Find Your State Nonprofit Association Heather Krasna - Jobs that Matter Land Your Dream Job in Portland (and Beyond) - 2016 Edition If you have a job-hunting or career development resource resource you’d like to share, please contact Ben Forstag, Mac’s List Managing Director at ben@macslist.org. -- Thank you for listening to Find Your Dream Job. If you like this show, please help us by rating and reviewing our podcast on iTunes. We appreciate your support!Opening and closing music for Find Your Dream Job provided by Freddy Trujillo, www.freddytrujillo.com. -- FULL TRANSCRIPT Mac Prichard:    This is Find Your Dream Job, the podcast that helps you get hired, have the career you want, and make a difference in life. I'm Mac Prichard your host, and publisher of Mac's List. Our show is brought to you by Mac's List and our book, "Land Your Dream Job in Portland (and Beyond)." To learn more about the book and the updated edition that we're publishing in February, visit macslist.org/ebook. One of the most common questions we're asked at Mac's List is this, "How do I get a nonprofit job?" It's a big question, and we hear it from all kinds of people. Recent college graduates, corporate employees who want to switch careers, or government workers who want to continue to serve the public. Like the question the nonprofit sector is big, almost 11 million Americans work for nonprofits in all kinds of jobs, from running soup kitchens to serving Girl Scouts. We don't have all the answers for you today, but we can help you get started. Joining me as our expert guest this week is Allison Jones. She's the Marketing and Publications Director at NTEN. That stands for Nonprofit Technology Enterprise Network. We also have the Mac's List team Ben Forstag our Managing Director and Cecilia Bianco, our Community Manager, and they have resources and answers to questions about the nonprofit sector. Let's get started and begin by checking with the Mac's List team. Cecilia, Ben, how are you two this week? Ben Forstag:       I'm doing awesome. Cecilia Bianco:  Doing really good Mac. Mac Prichard:    Good. Well let's talk about nonprofits jobs. Now tell me, have either one of you worked in the nonprofit sector? Ben Forstag:       I spent 15 years in the nonprofit sector, in Pennsylvania, in Spain, in DC and most recently here in Portland. Mac Prichard:    Okay, and do you have one big lesson from that experience you want to share with our listeners about your time in the nonprofit world? Ben Forstag:       I think the big thing that I share with people is that a lot of times there's a stereotype that nonprofit careers, you can't do well in them. That you have to be the starving artist of sorts, but I think nonprofits are becoming increasingly professionalized, and you can have a career in which you do well for yourself and do good for the public as well. It's a really rewarding career. Mac Prichard:    How about you Cecilia? Cecilia Bianco:  I haven't worked for a nonprofit previously, but through my work at Mac's List I've met a lot of people who are in that sector, so I'm pretty familiar with that, and I would agree with Ben, that that's a big misconception that's starting to change. Mac Prichard:    I've worked for one nonprofit directly and like you Cecilia worked with a lot of different nonprofits as a vendor and partner, and I have seen a professionalization of the sector throughout my career and it's a good sign to see. Let's turn to Ben, who every week is out there exploring the internet looking for resources you can use, whether it's a blog, a podcast, or other tool. Ben what do you have for us this week? Ben Forstag:       So because we're talking about nonprofits this week, I wanted to spend a little time talking about the website Charity Navigator, and how it can be a resource for people who are looking for jobs in the nonprofit sector. Charity Navigator as I'm sure you know is mostly known for its scoring system for charities, foundations and other registered nonprofits. Each year they review the public filings for thousands of local, regional, and national nonprofits, and they award stars based on each organization's financial viability, transparency, program spending, and other factors. These stars have become quite a big thing in the nonprofit community, as a star rating can have a major impact on potential donors. I know in my own experience, one organization I was in went from three stars to two stars. It raised a lot of questions from our donors about what's going on. Mac Prichard:    It's a tool that Charity Navigator often comes up in the media when it releases its information about the percentage of a budget a nonprofit spends on fundraising, and there are organizations out there that spend far too much on development and not enough on services, and that's one of the facts that Charity Navigator tracks. Ben Forstag:       I should say that Charity Navigator is not without its challenges. There's some serious questions out there in the media and in the nonprofit community about how exactly they give these ratings out, but for today's purposes this is the big site that people go to for evaluating nonprofits, so we're going to use that as the source. While Charity Navigator's primarily a tool for donors, it can also be very useful for job hunters. You might recall that several weeks ago we talked about the website Glassdoor.com, a website with salary, hiring, and internal culture information about different employers. At the time I mentioned that Glassdoor didn't have a lot of information about nonprofit organizations, particularly smaller nonprofits. Cecilia Bianco:  Yeah that's definitely true. Ben Forstag:       Yeah and that's a function of a lot of nonprofits tend to be smaller to they have fewer employees and ex employees to fill out Glassdoor evaluations. Well Charity Navigator does have a lot of this information that Glassdoor's missing, giving potential job seekers a great sneak peek into how those organizations operate. They do this by pulling information from each organization's 990 Form, which is a public financial document that nonprofits are required to file each year by the IRS. On Charity Navigator you can find out fairly detailed information on the nonprofit's financial and management history, which is really important when you're looking for a stable workplace. You can also see roughly how much money you spent on programming versus administrative or fundraising expenses as Mac pointed out, and what programs received the most support within the organization. Cecilia Bianco:  Ben, can't you get a lot of that information just from the nonprofit's website? Ben Forstag:       Good question Cecilia. Sometimes you can. While it's generally a best practice to include this kind of information on an annual report on the company website, not all organizations do this. You know, everyone's trying to put their best foot forward when it comes to their website and their public presence. In general I think the information on Charity Navigator tends to be a bit more impartial and data-driven, omitting a lot of that marketing jargon and cheerleading that you might find on those organization's own website. You can also get a sense of what the salaries are within a given nonprofit. If you go to the full 990 Form, which is available on Charity Navigator, you can see the organization's annual budget and the salary of top leadership. It's not going to tell you everyone's salary, so don't go looking for what the secretary's making, but from this information you can infer a general salary range for other positions in the organization. For example if the Executive Director is only making $45,000 a year, it's probably unlikely that a Program Director is going to be making the same amount. This kind of benchmarking I found really valuable when I was looking for nonprofit jobs. I had a real firm minimum salary requirement, and many times the nonprofits I was interested didn't list their salaries on their job postings, and a quick check on Charity Navigator told me if it was worthwhile applying for a particular position in that organization. If you're looking for nonprofit jobs I'd really encourage you to spend some times exploring the opportunities available on Charitynavigator.com, and I'll have the link in the show notes. Mac Prichard:    Great, well thank you Ben. If you have a suggestion for Ben, write him directly and we may share your idea on the show. Ben's address is Ben@macslist.org. Now it's time to turn to you, our listeners. Cecilia Bianco our Community Manager is here to answer one of your questions. Cecilia what do you hear from our community this week? Cecilia Bianco:  Our question this week is, "How important is volunteer experience when applying for nonprofit jobs?" We get this question a lot because volunteering, a lot of people don't necessarily want to do it, but it can be really worthwhile. From the people I've talked to, I think volunteer experience can be a bit of a leg up when you're applying for a nonprofit job. When there's a large pool of applicants who are all saying that an organization's cause is their passion. Showing that you've donated your free time towards this cause is definitely going to help you stand out, but the importance of volunteering also depends on what type of work experience you already have. You might have already worked in that nonprofit's area, so volunteering isn't as important because you're already showing that you're passionate enough to pursue a career in it. What do you two think, do you think volunteering is necessary? Ben Forstag:       I don't think it's necessary but I think it's a good idea. I think this is a form of networking that doesn't get employed enough. When you volunteer for an organization you shouldn't do it to get a job, but it certainly gets your name out there and you get to meet other staff members and other people in the community, and in doing so I think you improve your brand and your standing within that community and within that organization, so that if or when a job opening does become available you're a known commodity and someone that they know and trust with that position. Mac Prichard:    It's also a way of covering gaps in your resume. You can volunteer for a position at an organization that you want to have experience with to make those contacts, and obviously you do it in order to be of service, but while you look for work having even a part-time position, volunteer position within an organization, gives you a credential you can use to plug those gaps because sometimes, particularly for people mid-career, job searches can take three, six or even nine months. Cecilia Bianco:  Yeah definitely. I think if you're unemployed and looking for a nonprofit job, volunteering is a win-win because you're adding to your resume and showing how much you want your work to support a certain cause, and as Ben said it's a great way to meet people who might be able to advocate for you when you go to apply at a certain organization. They might know someone who knows someone who works for your dream nonprofit and it can be really beneficial to volunteer because of this. I know I've heard plenty of stories of this happening in our nonprofit community, so it's definitely a win-win. Mac Prichard:    Good. Well thank you Cecilia. If you have a question for Cecilia please email her. Her address is Cecilia@macslist.org. The segments by Ben and Cecilia are sponsored by the 2016 edition of "Land Your Dream Job in Portland (and Beyond)." We're making the complete Mac's List Guide even better by adding new content and making the book available on multiple e-reader platforms. When we launched the revised version in February 2016, you'll be able to access "Land Your Dream Job in Portland (and Beyond)" on your Kindle, Nook, iPad, and other digital devices. You'll also be able for the first time to order a paperback edition. Whatever the format our goal is the same. To give you the tools and tips you need to get meaningful work. For more information visit Macslist.org/ebook and sign up for our ebook newsletter. We'll send you publication updates, share exclusive book content, and provide you with special pre-sale prices. Now let's turn to our guest expert Allison Jones. Allison is passionate about making the world a better place. As a proud nonprofit geek she has built her career in the sector, helping organizations leverage communications to fulfill their missions. Currently Allison is the Marketing and Publications Director at NTEN, and that stands for the Nonprofit Technology Enterprise Network. Before that she worked at Idealist.org where she launched and managed Idealist Careers, a publication for purpose-driven professionals. Allison thank you for joining us. Allison Jones:    Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited about this conversation. Mac Prichard:    I know our listeners are too. We talked earlier about this in the show. We get this question a lot at Mac's List, how can I get a nonprofit job. With our listeners thinking about that, what do you encourage them to consider when they look at a career in nonprofits? Allison Jones:    Sure. My first gut reaction is to say well be more specific, right, because I think a lot of folks when they decide that they want a nonprofit job they usually coming from a place of ... Maybe they have a personal moment, that made them want to enter the social sector so maybe they noticed something in their community, they have something happen in their personal lives, maybe just like, "I want my work to be different," or perhaps they met someone who seemed to have a really awesome career in a nonprofit and it made them think differently about what their own career could be, which are all great starting points, but I think the nonprofit sector is so big that to say that you want a nonprofit job doesn't actually get you very far in terms of finding a job that you want. The first thing I would say is to be a bit more specific. Mac Prichard:    That's a great point. What steps have you seen people take to get specific? How do people narrow down on a particular goal? Allison Jones:    There are a couple things you can do there. If you're completely new to the sector and you're not quite sure where to start, I actually encourage folks to just look through job descriptions. Get a sense of what's out there by seeing what's out there, and that might sound a little tedious but there's an activity from NYU Wagner where they encourage you to do exactly that, to collect at least 50 job descriptions and then analyze them for patterns. You're drawn to this organization because of it's cause, so you notice that you really like organizations that focus on poverty or the environment or what have you. You're drawn to this job because of the work itself, so perhaps you notice that you really enjoy writing and a lot of the jobs that you point out are jobs that require writing, or even you're drawn to a job because of where it's located. You're passionate about certain areas. Looking for patterns in the things that you're drawn to. If you feel as if you're just completely coming at it with fresh eyes for a new career, I think that's one way to start. Another way to start is to actually talk to people who seem like they have interesting careers in the nonprofit sector in the form of informational interviews. I give a lot of informational interviews and I've gone on a lot of informational interviews, and they've been really, really helpful for me and my career. Mac Prichard:    We're big fans of informational interviews here at Mac's List, and I want to return to your point too about job postings. There are a lot of job boards out there aimed at nonprofit careers. Do you have any favorites that you want to give shout-outs to? Allison Jones:    I used to work at Idealist.org. Mac Prichard:    One of our favorites. Allison Jones:    I was there for three and a half years and even before I started working there that's what I used to find opportunities so definitely Idealist being one of my top favorites. Mac Prichard:    Great, and it pains me to say this Allison but I know there are people out there who haven't heard of Mac's List or Idealist.org. Could you tell people about Idealist and why it's such a great place, because we're big fans of it. Allison Jones:    Sure. Idealist.org is a global nonprofit that connects people to resources and opportunities in the community they need to take action on causes they care about, so what this means is we're really not well known for our job board, and I haven't checked the stats lately because I don't work there anymore but when I left there were well over 12,000 nonprofit jobs. Actually not just nonprofit jobs but 12,000 jobs in nonprofit social enterprises and government agencies, listed around the world, and there are also thousands of volunteer opportunities, thousands of internships, and if you're curious just about organizations, if you just want to know what kind of organizations are out there doing work in causes that you care about, I think there were over 100,000 organizations using the sites so you could look up profiles of organizations just to get a sense of who's doing what, so it's a really great place to just go and start looking for ways to get involved. Mac Prichard:    Great, and to your earlier point it's a great place to find those job postings and begin to identify those posts, look for those patterns. Any other sites you want to give a shout-out to before we get back to informational interviews? Allison Jones:    Other then Idealist, this may sound really strange but I've heard good things about finding opportunities on Craigslist. It's another way, particularly for smaller cities I think that tends to be a go-to for a lot of people posting opportunities. Mac Prichard:    Good. One other suggestion that comes to my mind is I know every state has a nonprofit association. Sometimes they have different names. Many of them do operate job boards. Allison Jones:    Yes. Also add to that NTEN also has a job board. Particularly if you're interested in opportunities in tech. I think one other way is to look for organizations that have a very specific focus, either in a cause or a profession, so if you're interested in social work looking at social work associations, if you're interested in technology looking at NTEN, that kind of thing. Organizations that act as associations or gatherings for folks in specific places. They tend to also list opportunities as well. Mac Prichard:    Okay good, so people have taken the time, they've looked at job postings, they've identified positions, they've discovered those patterns that you've described, now they're ready to go do informational interviews. What are your top three informational interview tips for people who either want a career in the nonprofit sector or want to make a mid career switch into the nonprofit world? Allison Jones:    I think the first is to just prepare. Thinking of what you want to get out of the interview and craft some really great questions. For example, my favorite question is, "What do you wish someone had told you before you got into this field? Where were you before you got to this organization and this position?" Finding out about people's career paths I think is a great way to let you know the different ways that people arrived in their work, and that can give you insights in terms of the kind of skills that you need to brush up on. If you're having these informational interviews and everyone's telling you for example, "Yeah if you want this role grad school is really important," then you know that perhaps grad school is a step that you might want to take. For me I think these informational interviews are also very surprising in the sense that in quite a few fields people have various pathways they take, and I think that that's something that makes the nonprofit sector somewhat unique in the sense that there's no ... If you want to work in a nonprofit sector this is the specific path that you must take. Of course that varies depending upon certain roles, but I think you'll in informational interviews and the kinds of roles that you're looking for you can really get a sense of the different pathways to finding a great career and getting insight as far as what people in your chosen profession have to do, what certain kinds of organizations are looking for, and their candidates. Preparing for informational interviews to get a sense of pathways and honestly what it takes to excel in a certain role is a really great way to make a use of them. Mac Prichard:    One question I hear from listeners when I encourage them to do informational interviews is they say to me, "How do I know that was a successful meeting? What should I expect to get out of that conversation?" What do you tell people when they ask you that question Allison? Allison Jones:    I think you get what you put into it, but I think for me, when I've gone on informational interviews, I tend to go in with a very specific need, and specific questions, and I feel successful at the end if I'm able to take another step towards what I came to the informational interviews for. For example, you never go into a informational interview asking for a job. That's just sort of ... You can ask about people's paths, what it takes to build a career in this field, what hiring managers might look for, but it's generally known that you don't ask for a job right then and there. What I found in my experiences of going on informational interviews is I felt comfortable ... I usually end up with clarity or a way to take action on something in my career. That has looked like, "Oh I thought I wanted to work at this kind of organization but I actually don't anymore," or, "I thought that I wanted to go to grad school but I don't anymore," or, "I've just learned there are plenty of opportunities in this particular field that I didn't consider before and I want to add that to my search list." It gives me clarity and I think that a successful informational interview gives you clarity and makes it easier for you to take another step toward where you want to be. Mac Prichard:    I think you're making an important point because often people tell me they want to stay open to all options and one of the benefits I see from informational interviews is it provides that clarity, that direction, and gives you insights into what doors you should continue to knock on and those that maybe that you want to keep closed. Allison Jones:    Exactly. Mac Prichard:    I bet you get this question a lot about profit jobs, I hear it to. What about salaries? What expectations should people have if they want a career in the nonprofit world, or they're thinking about moving into that sector? Allison Jones:    I think a couple things. One is to know ... How do I say this. I think at first it starts with you being clear about what your non-negotiables are, right. If there's a limit, if there's a minimum that you must have in order to take care of yourself it's okay to turn down jobs if they don't reach that minimum or they don't meet that minimum. The reason why I bring that up first is because I've found that people tend to be a bit more, you know if they're committed to a cause and want to make a difference they tend to overestimate their ability to deal with a certain salary, and they end up getting very frustrated, especially when you're working on something that doesn't necessarily have an end in sight. If you're working on eradicating poverty you may have milestones and goals over time, but obviously you're not going to see the end of poverty at anytime over the course of working at an organization. Being clear about what you need in terms of salary and in terms of other benefits is very important. I also encourage folks to think, and I just mentioned this, to think in terms of total compensation. If the salary issue comes up and its not what you'd like it to be, it meets what you need but not what you want perhaps, in my experience I've found folks are very open to different kinds of benefits and to just having that conversation. All that being said I actually believe that you can have a great salary in the nonprofit sector, you just have to look and you have to ask, and that can be really tough. You can do research. There are some websites like Salary.com. You can look at an organization's 990s and 990s I think only tell you folks who are making over $100,000 at the organization if I'm not mistaken, but that can still give you a sense of, if you are going for an executive position or if you want to get a sense of the top salaries that does give you a good picture of what that looks like. There are ways to get a sense of what salary options are in terms of your research but definitely going in with a sense of what you need is very important. Mac Prichard:    Yeah. What are some of those other benefits besides salary that you can get from the nonprofit world or that you should ask for? Again, I think people are reluctant to ask for things and when they're in a negotiation for a position that's when they have that opportunity and I think they're either reluctant to step up and ask or they don't know what to request. What sorts of things can people ask for in addition to money? Allison Jones:    Vacation days. And sick days, I've definitely seen that. Any other ... Help with transportation, so if folks depending on where you live, covering gas or your public transportation cost is another thing. Professional development support and resources. What funding is on the table for you to go to conferences and get the PD that you need to excel in your work. There are a bunch of different things and you can definitely do some research on that, but just again the point is to be very clear about what's most important to you. Mac Prichard:    Okay. People come to nonprofit work often because they have a calling or they want to make a difference. They feel a sense of purpose, but the job search basics still matter don't they? Allison Jones:    Absolutely, absolutely. Mac Prichard:    What are the ABCs that you can't ignore, whether you're looking for nonprofit work or any kind of job? Allison Jones:    I think first of all following directions is really important and it's funny, when I worked at Idealist, I was able to talk to quite a few hiring managers and I hired some folks from my team as well, and it's surprising how many folks don't follow directions, whether it be, "Answer these three questions in your cover letter," and people just aren't doing it. Stuff like that. Not following directions is not just a matter of the hiring manager's trying to test you, but also it's more of a matter of this actually helps us read applications and select candidates easier and faster if you follow directions. Making sure you do what's being asked of you. Tailoring the cover letter and the resume to the job itself and that in and of itself can be a bit of a conversation but what that really means is you're looking at the job description, what are they looking for the candidate to do, what kind of candidate are they looking for, not just in terms of qualifications but also in terms of attributes and characteristics. Are they saying they need someone who can thrive in a fast-paced environment, or are they saying that they need someone who's collaborative? Being able to indicate not only your successes as they pertain to the needs of the job but also your ability to fit in in terms of the attributes and characteristics that a person will need to do in that work. Focusing on your accomplishments. This is something that I've seen in a lot of resumes where it's just like, "I worked at X place and I did X things," versus, "I worked at X place and did X things which resulted in increasing revenue, decreasing turn-over," whatever have you, but making sure it attaches to some key accomplishments. Being clear about why you want to work there should be in your cover letter. For organizations that are mission-driven, who their entire purpose is to have an impact I think being clear about why you want to work in that cause, why with that organization, and not just because it seems like a cool place to be but really something specific is important. Finally just proofreading. Error free, easy to read, decent margins, those are also really important things. Mac Prichard:    We're coming to the end of our interview, but there is one question I want to raise that we get a lot. It's from people who have been in the private sector for five, ten, fifteen years and they want to make the transition into the nonprofit world. They tell us they struggle, they're not sure how to describe what they've done and make it appealing to nonprofit managers and hiring managers. How have you seen people address that Allison? Allison Jones:    In a few ways, and first I actually want to ... There's someone in particular who I just thought of, Heather Krasna. She's a dean at Columbia University School of Public Health. She is brilliant at this sort of thing, really working with sector-switchers so I definitely recommend her as a resource. Mac Prichard:    Let's get a URL from you and we'll put her in the show notes. Allison Jones:    As far as just making the sector switch, first I think networking is really important. I think having people who can give you an inside look as to what's required to work in a nonprofit because I think in some ways there is some suspicion of private sector folks. Are you coming here because you want a break? Are you coming here because you think it will be easier? There's some suspicion I think from nonprofit folks. Not all the time and not in every case, but just the wondering of ... You need to be able to answer that question of why. Why are you making this switch and being very honest about that. I think making language tweaks in your resume, cover letter, so instead of saying things like, "client or customer," you might want to say, "community or constituent," or something like that where it makes the most sense to do so. The transferable skills are important as well, so things like if the job you're going for requires you to be a great public speaker, that's something that you can call out in your resume and cover letter as things you've done in different contexts so it's a skill that you don't necessarily need to have developed in the nonprofit sector. You could have developed it anywhere. But you want to make sure you pull that out or call that out rather in your materials as something you have done in different contexts and they've still resulted in great things. Finally getting nonprofit experience where you can. Obviously finding a full time job is awesome and ideal, but if you've been on a board, if you've volunteered, if you've offered your consulting services pro bono, those are all experiences that are valuable because they indicate that you've done some work before trying to apply for a job, that you have some experience with a nonprofit sector and that you're not just coming at it blind. Mac Prichard:    Great. Well I think that's the perfect place to stop. Thank you Allison so much for joining us. Allison Jones:    Oh no problem. Thanks for having me. Mac Prichard:    Yeah. You can find Allison on Twitter. Her Twitter handle is @ajlovesya, and she also has a LinkedIn profile. We'll include links to both her Twitter account and her LinkedIn page in the show notes. Thank you Allison Jones. Allison Jones:    Thank you. Mac Prichard:    Okay we're back with the Mac's List team. Cecilia, Ben, what are some of the key takeaways from our conversation with Allison? Cecilia Bianco:  What I took away was that no matter where you're at informational interviews in the nonprofit world are the best way to get connected, and I think she made a lot of good points about how to go about that and why it's so important, because we know from talking to the Mac's List community a lot of people are getting jobs through meeting people in the community and the easiest way to do that is through informational interviews. Mac Prichard:    Good. Ben how about you? Ben Forstag:       I liked her point about how important it is to follow instructions in a job posting. It reminded me of a job I used to work at where as part of the hiring process they would put in slightly anachronistic rules into that job posting and one of the ways they weeded out if the applicant was detail oriented, was, did they follow the rule. Things like, "Put this as the subject line in the email when you email in your resume and application." They wouldn't even open up an email unless it had the right subject line in it. I think it's important to really read through the application, make sure you're following all the instructions they give, because there is a reason behind those instructions and oftentimes it's just to winnow out the numbers of applicants. Mac Prichard:    Yeah, I thought she had good practical suggestions both on informational interviews and the application process that would apply not only to the nonprofit world but the private sector as well. Ben Forstag:       Yeah, definitely. Mac Prichard:    Yeah, so good stuff. Well thank you both, and thank you our listeners. We'll be back next week with more tools and tips you can use to find your dream job. In the meantime you can visit us at Macslist.org where you can sign up for our free newsletter with more then 100 new jobs every week, and if you like what you hear on the show please help us by leaving a review and a rating at iTunes. This helps others discover the show and helps us help more job seekers. Thank you for listening.

Over the last few years, American liberals, both Jewish and not, have adopted less positive images of Israel with consequences for their feelings of attachment. These trends have implications both for understanding younger American Jews today, as well as for contending with BDS sympathizers, be they focused upon ending the occupation or seeking the elimination of the Jewish State of Israel. Professor Steven M. Cohen, a Jerusalem Center Fellow, is Research Professor of Jewish Social Policy at HUC-JIR and Director of the Berman Jewish Policy Archive at NYU Wagner. In 1992 he made aliyah, and taught for 14 years at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He is the author/co-author of several books on American Jewry, winning a National Book Award in 2010 for Sacred Strategies. He was the lead researcher on the Jewish Community Study of New York: 2011. He is the recipient of an honorary doctorate from the Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies, and received the Marshall Sklare Award of the Association for the Social Scientific Study of Jewry (ASSSJ). Prof. Cohen was elected president of the ASSSJ in 2012.

Decision 2012, a two-part special featuring Ronnie Eldridge, of Eldridge & Co., and Doug Muzzio, of City Talk, brings together political strategists Bob Shrum, Senior Fellow at NYU Wagner and Ed Rollins, Senior Presidential Fellow at Hofstra University.

Decision 2012, a two-part special featuring Ronnie Eldridge, of Eldridge & Co., and Doug Muzzio, of City Talk, brings together political strategists Bob Shrum, Senior Fellow at NYU Wagner and Ed Rollins, Senior Presidential Fellow at Hofstra University.

This being an election year, the airwaves and op-ed pages are full of pundits and politicians declaring what the future will or should bring this fall. Given the fragile economic climate and explosive political environment, the objective insight of seasoned experts is crucial now more than ever. Join the John Brademas Center for the Study of Congress and NYU Wagner on May 2, 2012 at 3:00PM in welcoming Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein who are sure set off passionate debate among these and other important players in the beltway and beyond.

This being an election year, the airwaves and op-ed pages are full of pundits and politicians declaring what the future will or should bring this fall. Given the fragile economic climate and explosive political environment, the objective insight of seasoned experts is crucial now more than ever. Join the John Brademas Center for the Study of Congress and NYU Wagner on May 2, 2012 at 3:00PM in welcoming Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein who are sure set off passionate debate among these and other important players in the beltway and beyond.

This being an election year, the airwaves and op-ed pages are full of pundits and politicians declaring what the future will or should bring this fall. Given the fragile economic climate and explosive political environment, the objective insight of seasoned experts is crucial now more than ever. Join the John Brademas Center for the Study of Congress and NYU Wagner on May 2, 2012 at 3:00PM in welcoming Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein who are sure set off passionate debate among these and other important players in the beltway and beyond.

This being an election year, the airwaves and op-ed pages are full of pundits and politicians declaring what the future will or should bring this fall. Given the fragile economic climate and explosive political environment, the objective insight of seasoned experts is crucial now more than ever. Join the John Brademas Center for the Study of Congress and NYU Wagner on May 2, 2012 at 3:00PM in welcoming Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein who are sure set off passionate debate among these and other important players in the beltway and beyond.

Co-author of The Jew Within, Steven M. Cohen has a lot to say about shifting Jewish identity. While shared priorities -- protecting Israel, fighting anti-semitism, and preventing inter-marriage – were what strengthened the Jewish community in previous generations, today’s younger American Jews are searching for meaningful Jewish experiences. What that means and how it plays out is the topic of this talk by Cohen, Research Professor of Jewish Social Policy at Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion and Director of the Berman Jewish Policy Archive at NYU Wagner.

Heather Hyman is back from Miami, and her and Erin Fairbanks explore ways that we can change NYC’s Food System on this episode of The Farm Report. They are joined by Gabrielle Blavatsky, a graduate student at NYU Wagner’s Graduate School of Public Service. Gabby also works with councilwomen Christine Quinn, and FoodWorks – Quinn’s 59 point system to change the way New Yorkers eat. Together, they discuss what issues we face in this state and what we can do to address these issues. Tune in and learn some interesting facts about food production in The Big Apple and get inspired to make change! This episode was sponsored by S. Wallace Edwards & Sons. For more information visit www.surryfarms.com

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