Podcasts about Understatement

Die aktuellen Automobilkurznachrichten mit Michael Weyland   Thema heute:   Long Island: Amerikas Antwort auf Sylt     In unregelmäßigen Abständen stellen wir hier auch Reiseziele vor, die man mit dem Auto erreichen kann. Den Begriff „erreichen“ sollte man dabei nicht überbewerten, das ist nicht so zu verstehen, dass man von hier aus mit dem Auto zum Ziel fahren kann, da kann die Anreise im Vorfeld auch per Schiff oder Flugzeug erfolgen. Und so ist es auch heute, mit dem Auto alleine werden Sie dort nicht ankommen. Es geht nach Long Island im Bundesstaat New York, die Insel gilt nicht ohne Grund als „das Sylt Amerikas“. Ganzjährig zieht es zahlreiche Amerikaner und internationale Besucher auf diese Insel vor den Toren New York Citys, um sich eine exklusive Auszeit zu gönnen. Besonders bekannt: die berühmten Hamptons im Osten der Insel. Nicht nur Urlauber, sondern auch Prominente schätzen die Region als Rückzugsort: Stars wie Beyoncé & Jay-Z, Jennifer Lopez, Alec Baldwin, Sarah Jessica Parker, Robert De Niro oder Paul McCartney haben hier entweder eigene Häuser oder verbringen regelmäßig ihre Ferien an den Stränden und in den schicken Ortschaften der Hamptons.     Schnelle Anreise – viel zu entdecken Von Midtown Manhattan bis nach Westhampton benötigt man nur etwa 90 Minuten. Die 193 Kilometer lange Insel gliedert sich in sechs charakterstarke Regionen, jede mit ihrem ganz eigenen Reiz.   Hampton Bays – Naturverbunden, ruhig, authentisch – Long Island unplugged Wer es ruhig, naturverbunden und charmant mag, ist in Hampton Bays richtig. Die von drei Buchten umgebene Gemeinde ist der unaufgeregte Gegenentwurf zu Jetset und Glam.     Southampton – die kulturelle Seele der Hamptons Southampton ist mehr als Strand und Strandhaus. Hier trifft man auf exzellente Kunstgalerien, das renommierte Parrish Art Museum und einen der schönsten Strände Amerikas: Cooper's Beach. Auch Sarah Jessica Parker zieht es regelmäßig hierher.   East Hampton – Inbegriff von Hamptons-Eleganz East Hampton ist das Herzstück des Hamptons-Glamours. Zwischen edlen Boutiquen, Designerhäusern und feinen Restaurants ist es kein Zufall, dass Promis wie Jennifer Lopez oder Beyoncé in der Gegend wohnen oder regelmäßig einkehren.     Montauk – Surfer-Vibe trifft Boho-Luxus Ganz im Osten der Insel liegt Montauk – ursprünglich ein Fischerdorf, heute Hotspot für Surfer, Kreative und Luxusreisende. Gwyneth Paltrow kommt zum Detoxen, Designer wie Calvin Klein genießen die Kombination aus Natur, Designhotels und Understatement.   Sag Harbor – Der Ort für Intellektuelle & Individualisten In dem historischen Ort Sag Harbor mit seinen kleinen Boutiquen, gehören Ethan Hawke und Scarlett Johansson zu den Stammgästen.     Alle Fotos: © Discover Long Island Diesen Beitrag können Sie nachhören oder downloaden unter:

Kopenhagen wie aus dem Design-Katalog – und mittendrin ein Hotel, das Understatement mit urbanem Stil vereint: das NH Collection Copenhagen. In dieser Folge berichten Jenny, Malte und reisen EXCLUSIV-Redakteurin Marie von einer dänischen Hauptstadtperle mit Wasserblick, Croissants statt Kopierer und royalen Gästen ganz oben.

Hoy, con motivo del aniversario del disco debut de los Last Shadow Puppets, The Age of the Understatement (publicado el 15 de abril de 2008), recuperamos un breve especial para de la banda paralela de Alex Turner y Miles Kane. También recordaros que ya podéis comprar La gran travesía del rock, un libro interactivo que además contará con 15 programas de radio complementarios, a modo de ficción sonora... con muchas sorpresas y voces conocidas... https://www.ivoox.com/gran-travesia-del-rock-capitulos-del-libro_bk_list_10998115_1.html Jimi y Janis, dos periodistas musicales, vienen de 2027, un mundo distópico y delirante donde el reguetón tiene (casi) todo el poder... pero ellos dos, deciden alistarse al GLP para viajar en el tiempo, salvar el rock, rescatar sus archivos ocultos y combatir la dictadura troyana del FPR. ✨ El libro ya está en diversas webs, en todostuslibros.com Amazon, Fnac y también en La Montaña Mágica, por ejemplo https://www.amazon.es/GRAN-TRAVES%C3%8DA-DEL-ROCK-autoestopista/dp/8419924938 ▶️ Y ya sabéis, si os gusta el programa y os apetece, podéis apoyarnos y colaborar con nosotros por el simple precio de una cerveza al mes, desde el botón azul de iVoox, y así, además podéis acceder a todo el archivo histórico exclusivo. Muchas gracias también a todos los mecenas y patrocinadores por vuestro apoyo: Poncho C, Don T, Francisco Quintana, Gastón Nicora, Con, Piri, Dotakon, Tete García, Jose Angel Tremiño, Marco Landeta Vacas, Oscar García Muñoz, Raquel Parrondo, Javier Gonzar, Eva Arenas, Poncho C, Nacho, Javito, Alberto, Pilar Escudero, Blas, Moy, Dani Pérez, Santi Oliva, Vicente DC,, Leticia, JBSabe, Flor, Melomanic, Arturo Soriano, Gemma Codina, Raquel Jiménez, Pedro, SGD, Raul Andres, Tomás Pérez, Pablo Pineda, Quim Goday, Enfermerator, María Arán, Joaquín, Horns Up, Victor Bravo, Fonune, Eulogiko, Francisco González, Marcos Paris, Vlado 74, Daniel A, Redneckman, Elliott SF, Guillermo Gutierrez, Sementalex, Miguel Angel Torres, Suibne, Javifer, Matías Ruiz Molina, Noyatan, Estefanía, Iván Menéndez, Niksisley y a los mecenas anónimos.

Understatement of the year: recruitment has changed a lot, and will continue to.With that in mind, for this Tactical Tuesday episode, Sam and Vivien discuss the evolving landscape of recruitment —  emphasizing the need for us to adapt our communication strategies in order to engage candidates and clients effectively. Differentiation is the name of the game — and with our help, you'll be on your way to implementing strategies that help your outreach stand out. Chapters:00:00 - Navigating recruitment's new landscape04:07 - Recruitment trends over the years09:45 - Stand out: recruitment differentiation strategies19:50 - Final recruitment advice and farewellExplore all our episodes and catch the full video experience at loxo.co/podcastBecoming a Hiring Machine is brought to you by Loxo. To discover more about us, just visit loxo.co

Deep is an understatement when Ern and Iso dive into this episode packed with real talk and engaging discussions!

Jake Tapper says Biden just has a stutter… and I just go to the gym for the smoothies.

Jake Tapper says Biden just has a stutter… and I just go to the gym for the smoothies.

Today is a good day. Demaris dropped an egg, and J. Cole dropped new bars (11:33). Freddie Gibbs also dropped a not-so-cryptic message about Cole’s latest song, and we discuss what a battle between the two would look like (27:52). Rolling Stone is playing with our emotions, making a list of Worst Songs On Classic Albums, but we love a list so of course we had to add to it (44:40). We get into new music and new freestyles (1:03:03), then give our opinion on the backlash Reason received for his Bootleg Kev interview and what loyalty platforms owe to artists (1:13:03). We try to stop Demaris from getting murdered by a fan for Cowboy Carter tickets (1:24:00), and then plan out her funeral, just in case. Mal is appalled at the Steve Smith adultery controversy, and we do a text breakdown of the evidence (1:34:56). There was a voicemail that led to a conversation that would’ve ended up getting us demonetized.. So we had to cut it out of audio and YT. Subscribe to our patreon for the uncut version. #volume For MORE Rory & Mal, make sure you subscribe to our Patreon community, for exclusive episodes, first access to tickets and merch sales, private live chats with the team, + more! https://www.patreon.com/newrorynmal Follow Rory: @ThisIsRory Follow MAL: @MAL_ByTheWay Follow Demaris: https://linktr.ee/demarisg To watch the podcast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMALYouTube Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/NewRoryAndMAL See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

#299 OBS | Vom Keller zur eigenen Fashion Show nach Berlin | Matthias Schweizer | FounderWie OBS mit minimalistischem Design die Modewelt erobert:Matthias Schweizer über Understatement, Family Business und den Mut zum großen Wurf auf der Fashion WeekIn dieser Episode sprechen Max Ostermeier und Matthias Schweizer, Co-Founder von OBS, über ihren außergewöhnlichen Weg vom Keller in Friedberg auf die Berliner Fashion Week. OBS steht für minimalistische Lederaccessoires und Textilien mit einer klaren Designphilosophie, die Funktionalität und Qualität vereint.In diesem Gespräch erfährst du:Wie die Kindheit auf Baustellen das Designverständnis von OBS geprägt hatWarum OBS auf horizontale Produktvielfalt verzichtet und stattdessen auf vertikale Tiefe setztDie Anekdote über den geheimen Showroom in einer Airbnb-Wohnung während der Pariser Fashion WeekWie es zur Zusammenarbeit mit USM und Eastpak kam und wie diese Partnerschaften die erste eigene Fashion Performance ermöglichtenWarum OBS trotz der hohen Kosten in die Berliner Fashion Week investiert hat und wie sich diese Investition in Sachen Markenbekanntheit und Content-Produktion auszahltDie Bedeutung von "See Now, Buy Now" und wie OBS die Produkte der Show direkt im Webshop launchtMatthias teilt offen und ehrlich die Höhen und Tiefen der Startup-Reise, spricht über die Herausforderungen des Familienunternehmens und gibt wertvolle Einblicke in die Bedeutung von Produktqualität, Design und Community.Egal ob du selbst Gründer bist, dich für minimalistisches Design interessierst oder einfach nur eine inspirierende Erfolgsgeschichte hören möchtest – diese Episode ist genau das Richtige für dich.Also, schnapp dir deine Kopfhörer und tauche ein in die Welt von OBS. Lass dich von Matthias' Leidenschaft und Vision mitreißen und entdecke, wie man mit Understatement und Mut zum großen Wurf die Modewelt erobern kann.Vergiss nicht, den Startcast zu abonnieren, damit du keine Episode verpasst. Wir freuen uns auf dein Feedback in den Kommentaren oder auf unseren Social-Media-Kanälen.Viel Spaß beim Hören!Citations:https://obs-official.com Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Glamour mit Dieter Kosslick, zuletzt Understatement mit Mariette Rissenbeek und Carlo Chatrian und nun das erste Festival mit Direktorin Tricia Tuttle. Was kann die neue Berlinale, was läuft gut, was läuft schlecht?**********Mehr zum Thema bei Deutschlandfunk Nova:Berlinale 2019: Die letzten GeheimnisseBerlinale 2024: Deutsche Wettbewerbsfilme herausragendSterben: Schauspieler Lars Eidinger und Regisseur Matthias Glasner über ihren neuen Film**********Den Artikel zum Stück findet ihr hier.**********Ihr könnt uns auch auf diesen Kanälen folgen: TikTok auf&ab , TikTok wie_geht und Instagram .

Wie kann man sich gesund denken? Wie können wir unsere Kinder in eine Impostor-freie Zukunft führen? Und was ist das Gegengift zu Impostor? Ist vom Bescheidenheits-Dogma zu Impostor zu Burnout ein typischer Weg?Diese Fragen diskutieren Brigitte Dyck und Hanna Rentschler mit Sigi Heidi Hohner, klinische Psychologin, Autorin, Life- und Transformationscoach und Inhaberin von Soul Powerment Coaching. Außerdem ist sie ehemalige Chefredakteurin von MTV. Die drei legen direkt mit dem Hot Topic los: Impostor! Ist das nur ein Frauenthema? Ist es nicht - wenn man anonym fragt, geben Männer öfter zu, dass sie darunter leiden.Sigi selbst hat das Impostor-Syndrom hinter sich gelassen und erst im Nachhinein gemerkt, dass sie darunter gelitten hat – und zwar erst, nachdem sie in den Burnout rutschte. Warnzeichen können Gedankenschleifen sein: „Ich bin nicht gut genug“, „ich zweifel an mir“, „ich kann das nicht“, „bald merken alle, dass ich es nicht kann“. Vor allem tauchen diese Gedanken auf, wenn man das vertraute Umfeld verlässt - Sigi nennt das Expandieren. Doch – man brennt nicht aus, wenn man nicht an sich selbst glaubt! Bei einem Thema hat Sigi eine ganz starke Meinung: Bescheidenheit kann zum Dogma werden und das ist richtig ungesund. Understatement findet sie gar nicht gut, denn es ist die Grundlage für Impostor!Wir sind alle in der Lage, größer zu werden, als die Generationen vor uns – eine Expansion zu wagen. Statt stolz darauf zu sein, regeln wir das herunter und dies ist eine Schutzreaktion unseres Nervensystems. Denn durch diese Expansion könnten wir die Zugehörigkeit zu unserer Peer-Group verlieren – gleichzeitig schaden uns genau diese Gedanken und können sogar langfristig zu einem Burnout führen. Auch in der Erziehung ist es wichtig, das vorzuleben. Denn Selbstliebe auf Befehl ist wie eine arrangierte Hochzeit. Unternehmen und Führungskräfte können natürlich gegensteuern. Je mehr man darüber weiß und je eher man die Warnzeichen erkennt, desto schneller kann man in den Dialog gehen. Ein ungewohnter Umgang mit Erfolgen, Komplimenten und Lob können Vorboten von Impostor und somit auch einem Burnout sein. Zum Schluss sagt sie noch einen wichtigen Satz: Glaub dir nicht alles, was du über dich selbst denkst! Sense or Nonsense: Ist das Impostor-Syndrom ein Frauenthema? Hanna ist sich sicher: Das haben alle! Brigitte allerdings kennt mehr Frauen, die unter diesen negativen Gedanken leiden. FührungsQuickie: Zunächst einmal herausfinden, wie Menschen mit Lob, Komplimenten und positiven Erlebnissen umgehen. Aufklärung über das Impostor-Syndrom kann dabei schon helfen. Für Unternehmen ist es wichtig, Wertearbeit zu betreiben. Leitender Gedanke: Man kann sich den Weg ins Glück nicht erleiden.Zur Website von Sigi: www.sigiheidihohner.com Website: https://brigitte-dyck.com/Shop Alle Online Trainings: https://brigitte-dyck.com/shopOnline Training: Benutzen wir die KI oder benutzt die KI uns? https://brigitte-dyck.com/info-menschenbild_kiGeschenk für dich: RoleLandscape und LeaderCanvas: https://brigitte-dyck.com/geschenkBuch mit persönlicher Widmung ab April 2025: “30 Fragen, die dein Leben bereichern. Dein Turbo für mehr Klarheit, Wachstum und außergewöhnlichen Erfolg” https://brigitte-dyck.com/kontaktBuch mit persönlicher Widmung ab 15. Mai 2025: “Künstliche Intelligenz in der Führung. Chancen, Entscheidungen und Strategien für morgen” https://brigitte-dyck.com/info-menschenbild_kiYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LeadershipMasterclass_developInsta: https://www.instagram.com/brigittedyck_leadership/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brigitte-dyck%F0%9F%92%A1-future-leadership-325b3999/00:00:00 Intro und Begrüßung00:01:23 Sense or Nonsense00:02:41 Deep Dive00:03:42 Ist Impostor ein Frauenthema?00:05:05 Wann bemerkt man Impostor?00:06:12 KI Online Kurs00:08:04 Impostor in den Griff bekommen00:13:03 Positives Momentum zur Heilung nutzen00:15:35 Impostor-Syndrom erkennen00:17:34 Bescheidenheit und Understatement00:22:46 Impostor und Burnout00:24:46 FührungsQuickie00:25:57 Mindful Place to work00:27:23 Erziehung und Impostor00:31:36 Impostor und Unternehmenskultur00:34:54 Wertecoach00:37:21 Vorbilder für gesunde Leistungskultur00:40:07 Leitender Gedanke

Rep. Brianna Thomas has done a lot of things in her life, and they all led, in one way or another, to the day she was sworn in as Washington state's newest representative. Today we talk about some of those stops along the way, and what she has planned for this new experience.

Today we start with a roast! Not of each other, but one of the most delicious roast lunches we've ever had at a pub. Then we get chatting about the transformative power of clothes. As always, send us your ideas to our instagram @makingthecutpodcast.The Kentish Hare - https://www.thekentishhare.com/Yiisonger - https://yiisonger.net/ Richard Dawkins and Andrew Gold in Conversation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An_WWG6Xj7oUnderstatement Underwear - https://www.shopunderstatement.com/VSRG Cashmere Comb - https://www.amazon.co.uk/VSRG-Cashmere-Comb-Knitwear-different/dp/B0BW1D7HCHSheep Inc - https://sheepinc.com/Lisou - https://lisou.co.uk/Begin Again - https://podcasts.apple.com/gh/podcast/begin-again-with-davina-mccall/id1773104705Mdlondon - https://mdlondon.com/Roya - https://www.instagram.com/ohmyroya/?hl=enGALLiVANTER - https://www.instagram.com/gallivanter__dj/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ein Sommelier von Format. Alfred Voigt war nicht nur einer der dienstlängsten und beständigsten Weinkellner in Deutschland, sondern auch eine Institution deutscher Weinfachmenschen – ein Virtuose des feinsinnig abstrusen Humors, ein Architekt des pointierten Schweigens und der akribisch inszenierten Eskalation im Weinglas und am Tisch seiner Gäste. Geboren in einer Zeit, als der Genuss noch eine eher beiläufige Randnotiz des Alltags war, entwickelte Alfred Voigt früh ein tiefes Verständnis für jene eigenartigen Momente des gesellschaftlichen Miteinanders, in denen der Mensch – oder besser gesagt, der Deutsche im Besonderen – in vollem Umfang an der Wahl des richtigen Weines scheitert. Ein Rotwein, der zum Fisch bestellt wird, ein Schaumwein, der mit Eiseskälte das Aroma erstickt, oder eine allzu unbedarfte Frage nach der „guten Flasche“ – Alfred Voigt wusste, dass das Drama des Genusses oft im winzigen Detail liegt, zwischen erwartungsvollem Nippen und ratlosem Stirnrunzeln. Seine Empfehlungen – seien es große Nebbiolo, die auf der Zunge ganze Geschichten erzählen, gereifte Weine aus dem Loire-Tal, die dem Gast das Reframing der eigenen Geschmackswelt abverlangen, oder rare Tropfen, die mehr über den Winzer als über das Weinglas verraten – waren keine bloßen Serviervorschläge, sondern fein ziselierte Anleitungen zur Erweiterung des kulinarischen Horizonts. Alfred verstand und versteht es meisterhaft, aus einer einzigen unauffälligen Bemerkung eines Gastes ein sensorisches Erlebnis zu entfalten – ein Talent, das ihn nicht nur als Sommelier, sondern auch als Meister des gastronomischen Dialogs auszeichnete. Seine Sprache – ein wohltemperiertes Bouquet aus fachlicher Präzision und feinsinnigem Understatement – bot eine Bühne für all jene kleinen Katastrophen der Weinkultur, die nur der wirklich Geduldige mit Contenance erträgt und der wirklich Geübte mit einem nachsichtigen Lächeln begleitet. Und so bleibt festzustellen: Alfred Voigt hat der deutschen Gastronomie nicht nur exzellente Weinempfehlungen, unvergessliche Genussmomente und die Kunst des perfekten Timings hinterlassen, sondern vor allem eine große Wahrheit: Ein Leben ohne guten Wein ist möglich – aber sinnlos. Alfred Voigt https://tinyurl.com/32pncb57 Mit herzlichen Grußworten von: --- Daniel Mariano, Terroir Unlimited Weinhändler und Freund Stefan Rumpf, Weingut Kruger Rumpf Winzer und Freund ------------------------------------- Diese Folge von SOMMELIER – Die interessantesten Weinkellner unserer Zeit wird begleitet von durch Silvio Nitzsche ausgewählte Weine aus dem Programm der Schlumberger Gruppe, zu der die Handelshäuser Schlumberger, Segnitz, Consigliovini und das Privatkundenportal Bremer Weinkolleg gehören. ------------------------------------- Während des Podcast probieren wir: 2022 Le Volte dell'Ornellaia, Ornellaia, Toskana, Italien Link für Geschäftskunden: https://is.gd/CLSylc Link für Privatkunden: https://is.gd/pY7yRq _____ Sehr gerne empfehle ich die folgenden Produkte: Quartet Brut, Roederer Estate, Anderson Valley, Kalifornien, USA Link für Geschäftskunden: https://is.gd/sIzoTO Link für Privatkunden: https://is.gd/k9uvEp _____ 2023 Quintessenz Kalterersee Classico Superiore, Kellerei Kaltern, Südtirol, Italien Link für Geschäftskunden: https://is.gd/HHyYs8 Link für Privatkunden: https://is.gd/HNCCML _____ Sake Shiraume Ginjo Umeshu, Akashi Sake Brewery, Japan Link für Geschäftskunden: https://is.gd/BZaY8z Link für Privatkunden: https://is.gd/IyoQ5n ------------------------------------- Bitte folgen Sie uns auf Webpage: www.sommelier.website Instagram: sommelier.der.podcast Facebook: sommelier.der.podcast Wir freuen uns über jede Bewertung, Anregung und Empfehlung. Das Format: SOMMELIER – Die interessantesten Weinkellner unserer Zeit wird produziert und verantwortet von der: Weinklang GmbH, Silvio Nitzsche, Bergahornweg 10, 01328 Dresden, silvio@sommelier.website

Counselors and Affirmation.Listen to the Podcast at Steamy Stories.Seeking AffirmationI fall prey to a predatory therapist.Based on a post by nymphicDisclaimer: Sexual relations between therapists and current clients are expressly prohibited.It took me years to become this relaxed in front of my therapist, able to share the most shameful parts of my mind with ease. All the vile, disgusting parts nobody else gets access to: he always reacts with a cool, detached professionalism. He's heard it all before, and worse, he tells me, and I've stopped apologizing for the revolting things I tell him: all my self-destructive habits, my awful intrusive thoughts, my horrific violent urges.It takes me one careless sentence for all that trust to crumble.We're talking about how my current beau is terrible in bed, leading me to mention how I think about other men when I'm fucking him. “And you're one of them,” I add. Carelessly. Completely unnecessarily.He pauses, then looks up from his notes. “Come again?'Without the input of my brain, my mouth decides the best course of action is to blab further. “Sometimes he gets me so close, but not close enough, so to tip myself over the edge, I think about you. You must know how hot you are, your beard, and tattoos, and curly hair, and...' I trail off as I notice his amused expression. “What?'He places his notes to the side and folds his hands over crossed legs. “You're placing an awful lot of trust in me to share this.'And I'm beginning to regret that, with the way he's looking at me like something to be devoured. I shrug. “I imagine you're good at your job. Or at least professional enough not to take advantage or be a creep.'He says nothing. The clock behind him ticks.'I think I'm the last person you'd creep on, anyway,' I continue, stammering. “I, this is just a little crush. On a therapist. I know there's no chance of reciprocation, not that I'm hitting on you, or anything, but I mean,”“There are a lot of assumptions you're making,” he interrupts. His gaze is intense, eyes so dark I can't tell where the pupil ends and iris begins.“Hmm?” My mouth dries.He counts off his fingers. “You assume I'm good at my job. You assume I'm not a creep, or a predator. You assume your fantasies are not reciprocated.”Whatever rapport we've built has evaporated. I feel numb, foggy. I'm distantly aware that I could be in danger, but I'm frozen to my seat as he stands, like I'm a rabbit caught in the jaws of a fox.“You have no idea what I'm capable of, do you?” he says, towering above me.My hands shake uncontrollably. “I don't understand?” I whisper. Surely, he won't...? There's no way, he wouldn't... not for me, surely?His smirk is lazy, predatory. “Stand,” he says, a strong command.I shrink into the chair. This can't be happening. I refuse to believe it.“Stand,” he repeats, and there's an irresistible dominance to his voice.What can I do but obey? I wobble to my feet like a newborn deer, and his hand clamps around my throat. I choke out a pitiful little gasp. He walks me backward until my spine hits the wall. I'm trapped.“What are you doing?” I whimper, my voice high and pathetic with the way he squeezes.His laugh is unkind, humorless. “What do you think I'm doing? I'm giving you what you want.” His voice is baritone and gravelly, a lion's purr, and his breath comes out hot on my face. I shiver. “Don't tell me you haven't touched yourself to the thought of this,” he says.He's not wrong.With the hand that isn't around my neck, he snakes his way into my jeans. Deftly his fingers find their way under the fabric of my underwear, and to my shame and horror, they caress the moisture building beneath my folds.“So wet, already?” he whispers, “It's disgusting, how badly you want me.” The words are harsh but they betray a smug satisfaction, and it sends a heat surging through me.His grin widens as he palms my aching vulva. I don't mean to, but my hips buck into him, and he chuckles.“Don't worry, I'll give you what you want.'“No, no...” I shake my head and whimper as his finger plunges inside me. I don't want this, I don't. It was just a fantasy, it was never meant to be real, and I never thought he would, but he hooks his index inside, grazing the pad against my front wall, and the moan that slips from my mouth is obscene.The hand around my neck suddenly slaps over my mouth. “Shut the fuck up,' he hisses, but he doesn't stop, and can't contain the moan that muffles into his palm as he fucks his fingers inside me.“Fuck,” he groans, “can you hear how wet you are? How sloppy you are?” His beard scratches at the sensitive skin of my jaw. “So pathetic and needy, a pathetic little whore.'His palm is wet over my face, and I realize I'm drooling.“Pathetic little whore,” he repeats, wiping my spit on my face. My legs inch wider and I hear the indecent sloshing of my arousal beneath his hand. “Bet you get off thinking about this after each session, don't you? Horny little thing. You'd beg for it, wouldn't you? Beg me to rape you?'I try to shake my head, but the hand over my face grips too tight. My thighs start to shake, and I can feel my wetness leaking, dripping down the top of my thighs, gooey and disgusting, just like me.“Tell me you would. Beg me.” His voice is so harsh, but it's so hot the way he's degrading me like this, and I'm slipping further and further off the edge. Tears spill down my cheeks as I shake my head. I do want to beg him, beg him to stop, but despite it all I can myself approaching the edge. The heat builds in my belly, thighs clenching his hand in a vice as they shudder and quake, and I'm so, so close, and I don't want him to stop, and I hate myself for it.“Oh no, oh no you don't,” he says, “You're not going to come already, are you? Fuck, you're more desperate than I thought.” His movements roughen, adding another finger, fucking into me relentlessly. “Don't do it, don't you fucking do it, you're not allowed to come, you're not allowed to enjoy this, you disgusting slut, “He's whispering hotly into my neck, like an open-mouthed kiss, and it's too late. I hurtle over the edge, falling apart, mouth open and drooling as I come undone on his fingers.He steps back. “Disgusting,” he says.I whimper and slide to the floor, red-faced and sweaty. I curl myself into a fetal position. I am disgusting. Nausea churns in my gut, and the room swims in front of my eyes.He squats beside me. His hand, the one which was inside me just a moment ago, wipes my wetness over my face, smudging my slime over my lips. He pushes his fingers inside my mouth, making me taste myself, then takes my chin in his hand and forces me to look at him through half-lidded eyes.“Such a slut. You can't be anything more than a worthless whore, can you?” He tosses me aside and stands. “Get on your knees.”Before I know it, I'm doing as he says, sitting back on my heels as he unbuckles his belt and frees his cock. I barely have a moment to breathe before his hand is fisting my hair at the nape of my neck and urging me onto his cock, shoving me down as far as I can go, until it slams against the back of my throat. I have to hold onto his muscular thighs for balance, the way he roughly drives into my open, slobbering mouth.Above me, his mouth hangs open, breathing heavy. A flush spreads across his cheeks, and his brows furrow.'What would your friends say, if they could see you like this?” he growls. “Debased like this? If they could see the pathetic whore you really are? Would they laugh at you, knowing how much you love being face-fucked like this?'My eyes roll back in my head and I sob, my mouth stretched around him. Rivulets of saliva dribble down my chin, my neck, between my breasts, which jiggle from the force of his thrusts.He makes a rough sound at the back of his throat. “Fuck... Would they use you like I am? Would they want a turn to ruin you? Fuck your pretty little mouth like I am? You wouldn't stop them, just let them take what they want, just like I'm taking what I want from you, oh, you're so good at taking my cock, “He pulls out and I gasp for air, gulping raspy breaths. I fall back, hands catching myself on the carpet as I try to recover, but before I can, he's positioning himself behind me, manhandling me so I'm on my hands and knees, face pressed against the carpet, ass presented to him like an offering.No preamble, no warning, he slams himself deep into me. The sound he makes, a feral and debauched groan, might be the hottest thing I've ever heard. It's equal parts primal and hedonic, all pretense of keeping quiet long forgotten. His blunt nails dig into the soft flesh of my hips as he drives himself into me, over and over and over.It's animalistic and it's savage, the vulgar slapping of his balls against my skin, the sweat and snot and tears and dribbling down my face, the wretched sobbing squeaks I make as he fucks me relentlessly. It is both endlessly hot and humiliating. There's the heat of shame curdling in my gut, how I shouldn't want this, it shouldn't feel so good. But then the way his strong hands tangle in my hair, pulling me, dragging me up against him; then the way he clamps his canines into my neck, the sharp painful pleasure of it; the way I know I couldn't fight him even if I tried. The way I am completely and utterly at his mercy; all of it has my thighs clenching and quivering as my second orgasm builds.“You're gonna come from this, huh? You close again, huh?” he pants in my ear. “This is what turns you on? Used like the worthless piece of meat you are?'I can't pretend. Sobbing, moaning, covered in drool and snot, I nod. “Uh huh. You can have me, you can use me. Have me however you want,” I whimper in my phlegmy voice. “You're so; oh; I'm so close; I'm gonna.'“Nope,” he says, suddenly pulling out of me, all at once leaving me empty and wanting. “You're not going to come again. You're mine to use, you're not allowed to like it too, you greedy little slut.” He rolls me over on my back, and, kneeling above me, strokes himself over my face. I open my mouth, tongue out, ready for him, while my fingers press against my aching clit, desperately clutching at the remnants of my ruined orgasm.“Fuck, look at you,” he breathes, “slimy, disgusting little slut. Fuck, you're so perfect.” He continues to mumble words both degrading and flattering until, with a final moan, his come spills over my tongue, hot and salty. As his spend drips down my flushed face, my hips gyrate into my hands and I spill over, too. My second orgasm is a weak, ruined shadow of the first, empty of my therapist but full of disgrace. I feel thoroughly debased. Disgusting. Glazed with spunk, a husk of a woman.The air is hot and thick with sex. There's a heavy ache in my center, a cold emptiness, as I stare up at the ceiling. I still don't believe what's just happened. There must be some mistake, some misunderstanding. Maybe I'm having a psychotic break. Maybe this is all in my head. Some fantasy turned foul.I can hear him re-buckling his belt and shuffling about at the desk, until he appears beside me, gently helping me sit upright. Tenderly he wipes the goo from my face with wet wipes, deep brown eyes searching mine. His dark curls are plastered to his face with sweat.“Nobody will know about this,” he says in a low voice. “You have my word. I know better than anyone how fragile you are, and how poorly you will handle anyone knowing how you threw yourself at me like that. Nobody will know what a greedy whore you really are. You can trust me.” The cruelty in his words are softened by how gentle he's being, softly caressing my shoulders as he wipes away the gunk from my skin.He's taking care of me.It's nice.He's a good person.He helps me to my feet. I shake like a lamb.“Anyway, our time is up.” He opens the door and ushers me out. “I'll see you next week.'The last I see of him is a predatory, vulpine grin, before the door clicks shut.Clinical PleasureKate visits Doctor Yang to treat her sexual dysfunctions.Based on a post by nymphic“Kate Williams?” calls the receptionist.At the sound of her name, a fair-complexioned young woman jerks her strawberry blonde head up. “Yes?”“Doctor Yang is ready to see you. Third door on the right.”Timidly, Kate walks up to Doctor Yang's office. She smooths her dress and takes a deep, shaky breath before entering.Doctor Yang looks to be in his mid-forties--black hair slicked back, greying at the temples. He's fit, with wide shoulders, and his shirt bunches around his elbows where the sleeves are rolled up, showing off well-defined forearms.He gives Kate a firm handshake before ushering her into the room. “Miss Williams, welcome, I'm Doctor Yang. Pull up a chair.”She perches primly on a chair of squeaky vinyl while he takes a seat behind his desk. There's an ancient, blocky computer taking up so much space on his desk, there's barely room left for the messy notes scattered about. Behind, a curtain half obscures an examination table. At the sight of it, trepidation bubbles in Kate's stomach.“What brings you in today?” the doctor asks.“Um.” She stares intently at the floor, unable to explain to this handsome doctor all of her sexual inadequacies.After the silence between them becomes sufficiently awkward, Doctor Yang takes pity on poor Kate, clearing his throat and shuffling his notes.“Look, it's normal to be nervous, but I assure you, I've heard it all before. This is a judgement free space, and I'm here to help you.” He looks at her with kind, dark eyes. “Whenever you're ready.”Kate fiddles with the hem of her sundress as she begins. “Well, I'm in a pretty new relationship right now, and. We're having intimacy issues.”“Intimacy issues,” says Doctor Yang. There's a distinct lack of judgement in his tone, which calms the anxiety in Kate's stomach. He's almost detached as he clack-clack-clacks the clunky keyboard. The behemoth computer buzzes and whirs away as he types. “Tell me more about the issues you've been having.”“My boyfriend and I; he's the one who urged me come here; are, well. We just started sleeping together. And I'm finding it quite difficult.” She bites her lip.“Difficult in what way?”Kate looks down at her sandals as she says, “I'm told sex ought to be pleasurable.”Doctor Yang chuckles, showing off deep dimples. “It's generally supposed to be, yes. That hasn't been your experience?”Kate shakes her head, curly hair bouncing around her shoulders. “No, not the times we've tried together. I just can't see how anything can... fit.” She can feel her face heating up. “Every time we try it's so uncomfortable for me. Sometimes it hurts. Plus, I've never been able to... get there. Not when we're together, at least.”Doctor Yang nods. “You know, many women your age have that experience too. It's completely normal.”“What? You mean this is just how it is?”She must look panic-stricken, because Doctor Yang immediately backtracks. “No, no! It shouldn't hurt, it should never hurt! What I mean to say is that this issue is more common than you realize, and it's definitely something I can help with.”She slumps back in the chair with relief, air whooshing from her lungs.“To get to the bottom of your problem, though,” Doctor Yang continues, “I'm going to ask a few personal questions. There will be no judgement from me, I just want you to answer honestly. Is that okay?” His face is open and friendly, and Kate trusts him, but what could he mean, personal questions? How much more personal can it get?“Sure,” she says, and if Doctor Yang notices her hesitation, he doesn't let on.

Counselors and Affirmation.Listen to the Podcast at Steamy Stories.Seeking AffirmationI fall prey to a predatory therapist.Based on a post by nymphicDisclaimer: Sexual relations between therapists and current clients are expressly prohibited.It took me years to become this relaxed in front of my therapist, able to share the most shameful parts of my mind with ease. All the vile, disgusting parts nobody else gets access to: he always reacts with a cool, detached professionalism. He's heard it all before, and worse, he tells me, and I've stopped apologizing for the revolting things I tell him: all my self-destructive habits, my awful intrusive thoughts, my horrific violent urges.It takes me one careless sentence for all that trust to crumble.We're talking about how my current beau is terrible in bed, leading me to mention how I think about other men when I'm fucking him. “And you're one of them,” I add. Carelessly. Completely unnecessarily.He pauses, then looks up from his notes. “Come again?'Without the input of my brain, my mouth decides the best course of action is to blab further. “Sometimes he gets me so close, but not close enough, so to tip myself over the edge, I think about you. You must know how hot you are, your beard, and tattoos, and curly hair, and...' I trail off as I notice his amused expression. “What?'He places his notes to the side and folds his hands over crossed legs. “You're placing an awful lot of trust in me to share this.'And I'm beginning to regret that, with the way he's looking at me like something to be devoured. I shrug. “I imagine you're good at your job. Or at least professional enough not to take advantage or be a creep.'He says nothing. The clock behind him ticks.'I think I'm the last person you'd creep on, anyway,' I continue, stammering. “I, this is just a little crush. On a therapist. I know there's no chance of reciprocation, not that I'm hitting on you, or anything, but I mean,”“There are a lot of assumptions you're making,” he interrupts. His gaze is intense, eyes so dark I can't tell where the pupil ends and iris begins.“Hmm?” My mouth dries.He counts off his fingers. “You assume I'm good at my job. You assume I'm not a creep, or a predator. You assume your fantasies are not reciprocated.”Whatever rapport we've built has evaporated. I feel numb, foggy. I'm distantly aware that I could be in danger, but I'm frozen to my seat as he stands, like I'm a rabbit caught in the jaws of a fox.“You have no idea what I'm capable of, do you?” he says, towering above me.My hands shake uncontrollably. “I don't understand?” I whisper. Surely, he won't...? There's no way, he wouldn't... not for me, surely?His smirk is lazy, predatory. “Stand,” he says, a strong command.I shrink into the chair. This can't be happening. I refuse to believe it.“Stand,” he repeats, and there's an irresistible dominance to his voice.What can I do but obey? I wobble to my feet like a newborn deer, and his hand clamps around my throat. I choke out a pitiful little gasp. He walks me backward until my spine hits the wall. I'm trapped.“What are you doing?” I whimper, my voice high and pathetic with the way he squeezes.His laugh is unkind, humorless. “What do you think I'm doing? I'm giving you what you want.” His voice is baritone and gravelly, a lion's purr, and his breath comes out hot on my face. I shiver. “Don't tell me you haven't touched yourself to the thought of this,” he says.He's not wrong.With the hand that isn't around my neck, he snakes his way into my jeans. Deftly his fingers find their way under the fabric of my underwear, and to my shame and horror, they caress the moisture building beneath my folds.“So wet, already?” he whispers, “It's disgusting, how badly you want me.” The words are harsh but they betray a smug satisfaction, and it sends a heat surging through me.His grin widens as he palms my aching vulva. I don't mean to, but my hips buck into him, and he chuckles.“Don't worry, I'll give you what you want.'“No, no...” I shake my head and whimper as his finger plunges inside me. I don't want this, I don't. It was just a fantasy, it was never meant to be real, and I never thought he would, but he hooks his index inside, grazing the pad against my front wall, and the moan that slips from my mouth is obscene.The hand around my neck suddenly slaps over my mouth. “Shut the fuck up,' he hisses, but he doesn't stop, and can't contain the moan that muffles into his palm as he fucks his fingers inside me.“Fuck,” he groans, “can you hear how wet you are? How sloppy you are?” His beard scratches at the sensitive skin of my jaw. “So pathetic and needy, a pathetic little whore.'His palm is wet over my face, and I realize I'm drooling.“Pathetic little whore,” he repeats, wiping my spit on my face. My legs inch wider and I hear the indecent sloshing of my arousal beneath his hand. “Bet you get off thinking about this after each session, don't you? Horny little thing. You'd beg for it, wouldn't you? Beg me to rape you?'I try to shake my head, but the hand over my face grips too tight. My thighs start to shake, and I can feel my wetness leaking, dripping down the top of my thighs, gooey and disgusting, just like me.“Tell me you would. Beg me.” His voice is so harsh, but it's so hot the way he's degrading me like this, and I'm slipping further and further off the edge. Tears spill down my cheeks as I shake my head. I do want to beg him, beg him to stop, but despite it all I can myself approaching the edge. The heat builds in my belly, thighs clenching his hand in a vice as they shudder and quake, and I'm so, so close, and I don't want him to stop, and I hate myself for it.“Oh no, oh no you don't,” he says, “You're not going to come already, are you? Fuck, you're more desperate than I thought.” His movements roughen, adding another finger, fucking into me relentlessly. “Don't do it, don't you fucking do it, you're not allowed to come, you're not allowed to enjoy this, you disgusting slut, “He's whispering hotly into my neck, like an open-mouthed kiss, and it's too late. I hurtle over the edge, falling apart, mouth open and drooling as I come undone on his fingers.He steps back. “Disgusting,” he says.I whimper and slide to the floor, red-faced and sweaty. I curl myself into a fetal position. I am disgusting. Nausea churns in my gut, and the room swims in front of my eyes.He squats beside me. His hand, the one which was inside me just a moment ago, wipes my wetness over my face, smudging my slime over my lips. He pushes his fingers inside my mouth, making me taste myself, then takes my chin in his hand and forces me to look at him through half-lidded eyes.“Such a slut. You can't be anything more than a worthless whore, can you?” He tosses me aside and stands. “Get on your knees.”Before I know it, I'm doing as he says, sitting back on my heels as he unbuckles his belt and frees his cock. I barely have a moment to breathe before his hand is fisting my hair at the nape of my neck and urging me onto his cock, shoving me down as far as I can go, until it slams against the back of my throat. I have to hold onto his muscular thighs for balance, the way he roughly drives into my open, slobbering mouth.Above me, his mouth hangs open, breathing heavy. A flush spreads across his cheeks, and his brows furrow.'What would your friends say, if they could see you like this?” he growls. “Debased like this? If they could see the pathetic whore you really are? Would they laugh at you, knowing how much you love being face-fucked like this?'My eyes roll back in my head and I sob, my mouth stretched around him. Rivulets of saliva dribble down my chin, my neck, between my breasts, which jiggle from the force of his thrusts.He makes a rough sound at the back of his throat. “Fuck... Would they use you like I am? Would they want a turn to ruin you? Fuck your pretty little mouth like I am? You wouldn't stop them, just let them take what they want, just like I'm taking what I want from you, oh, you're so good at taking my cock, “He pulls out and I gasp for air, gulping raspy breaths. I fall back, hands catching myself on the carpet as I try to recover, but before I can, he's positioning himself behind me, manhandling me so I'm on my hands and knees, face pressed against the carpet, ass presented to him like an offering.No preamble, no warning, he slams himself deep into me. The sound he makes, a feral and debauched groan, might be the hottest thing I've ever heard. It's equal parts primal and hedonic, all pretense of keeping quiet long forgotten. His blunt nails dig into the soft flesh of my hips as he drives himself into me, over and over and over.It's animalistic and it's savage, the vulgar slapping of his balls against my skin, the sweat and snot and tears and dribbling down my face, the wretched sobbing squeaks I make as he fucks me relentlessly. It is both endlessly hot and humiliating. There's the heat of shame curdling in my gut, how I shouldn't want this, it shouldn't feel so good. But then the way his strong hands tangle in my hair, pulling me, dragging me up against him; then the way he clamps his canines into my neck, the sharp painful pleasure of it; the way I know I couldn't fight him even if I tried. The way I am completely and utterly at his mercy; all of it has my thighs clenching and quivering as my second orgasm builds.“You're gonna come from this, huh? You close again, huh?” he pants in my ear. “This is what turns you on? Used like the worthless piece of meat you are?'I can't pretend. Sobbing, moaning, covered in drool and snot, I nod. “Uh huh. You can have me, you can use me. Have me however you want,” I whimper in my phlegmy voice. “You're so; oh; I'm so close; I'm gonna.'“Nope,” he says, suddenly pulling out of me, all at once leaving me empty and wanting. “You're not going to come again. You're mine to use, you're not allowed to like it too, you greedy little slut.” He rolls me over on my back, and, kneeling above me, strokes himself over my face. I open my mouth, tongue out, ready for him, while my fingers press against my aching clit, desperately clutching at the remnants of my ruined orgasm.“Fuck, look at you,” he breathes, “slimy, disgusting little slut. Fuck, you're so perfect.” He continues to mumble words both degrading and flattering until, with a final moan, his come spills over my tongue, hot and salty. As his spend drips down my flushed face, my hips gyrate into my hands and I spill over, too. My second orgasm is a weak, ruined shadow of the first, empty of my therapist but full of disgrace. I feel thoroughly debased. Disgusting. Glazed with spunk, a husk of a woman.The air is hot and thick with sex. There's a heavy ache in my center, a cold emptiness, as I stare up at the ceiling. I still don't believe what's just happened. There must be some mistake, some misunderstanding. Maybe I'm having a psychotic break. Maybe this is all in my head. Some fantasy turned foul.I can hear him re-buckling his belt and shuffling about at the desk, until he appears beside me, gently helping me sit upright. Tenderly he wipes the goo from my face with wet wipes, deep brown eyes searching mine. His dark curls are plastered to his face with sweat.“Nobody will know about this,” he says in a low voice. “You have my word. I know better than anyone how fragile you are, and how poorly you will handle anyone knowing how you threw yourself at me like that. Nobody will know what a greedy whore you really are. You can trust me.” The cruelty in his words are softened by how gentle he's being, softly caressing my shoulders as he wipes away the gunk from my skin.He's taking care of me.It's nice.He's a good person.He helps me to my feet. I shake like a lamb.“Anyway, our time is up.” He opens the door and ushers me out. “I'll see you next week.'The last I see of him is a predatory, vulpine grin, before the door clicks shut.Clinical PleasureKate visits Doctor Yang to treat her sexual dysfunctions.Based on a post by nymphic“Kate Williams?” calls the receptionist.At the sound of her name, a fair-complexioned young woman jerks her strawberry blonde head up. “Yes?”“Doctor Yang is ready to see you. Third door on the right.”Timidly, Kate walks up to Doctor Yang's office. She smooths her dress and takes a deep, shaky breath before entering.Doctor Yang looks to be in his mid-forties--black hair slicked back, greying at the temples. He's fit, with wide shoulders, and his shirt bunches around his elbows where the sleeves are rolled up, showing off well-defined forearms.He gives Kate a firm handshake before ushering her into the room. “Miss Williams, welcome, I'm Doctor Yang. Pull up a chair.”She perches primly on a chair of squeaky vinyl while he takes a seat behind his desk. There's an ancient, blocky computer taking up so much space on his desk, there's barely room left for the messy notes scattered about. Behind, a curtain half obscures an examination table. At the sight of it, trepidation bubbles in Kate's stomach.“What brings you in today?” the doctor asks.“Um.” She stares intently at the floor, unable to explain to this handsome doctor all of her sexual inadequacies.After the silence between them becomes sufficiently awkward, Doctor Yang takes pity on poor Kate, clearing his throat and shuffling his notes.“Look, it's normal to be nervous, but I assure you, I've heard it all before. This is a judgement free space, and I'm here to help you.” He looks at her with kind, dark eyes. “Whenever you're ready.”Kate fiddles with the hem of her sundress as she begins. “Well, I'm in a pretty new relationship right now, and. We're having intimacy issues.”“Intimacy issues,” says Doctor Yang. There's a distinct lack of judgement in his tone, which calms the anxiety in Kate's stomach. He's almost detached as he clack-clack-clacks the clunky keyboard. The behemoth computer buzzes and whirs away as he types. “Tell me more about the issues you've been having.”“My boyfriend and I; he's the one who urged me come here; are, well. We just started sleeping together. And I'm finding it quite difficult.” She bites her lip.“Difficult in what way?”Kate looks down at her sandals as she says, “I'm told sex ought to be pleasurable.”Doctor Yang chuckles, showing off deep dimples. “It's generally supposed to be, yes. That hasn't been your experience?”Kate shakes her head, curly hair bouncing around her shoulders. “No, not the times we've tried together. I just can't see how anything can... fit.” She can feel her face heating up. “Every time we try it's so uncomfortable for me. Sometimes it hurts. Plus, I've never been able to... get there. Not when we're together, at least.”Doctor Yang nods. “You know, many women your age have that experience too. It's completely normal.”“What? You mean this is just how it is?”She must look panic-stricken, because Doctor Yang immediately backtracks. “No, no! It shouldn't hurt, it should never hurt! What I mean to say is that this issue is more common than you realize, and it's definitely something I can help with.”She slumps back in the chair with relief, air whooshing from her lungs.“To get to the bottom of your problem, though,” Doctor Yang continues, “I'm going to ask a few personal questions. There will be no judgement from me, I just want you to answer honestly. Is that okay?” His face is open and friendly, and Kate trusts him, but what could he mean, personal questions? How much more personal can it get?“Sure,” she says, and if Doctor Yang notices her hesitation, he doesn't let on.

Single Women Seek Instruction In Fellatio Arts.Based on a post by TheDoctah. Listen to the Podcast at Steamy Stories.We finished the wine bottle, well what else were we going to do with it? My wife's straight-laced friends were getting giggly. The four of us had been having a good time.“Spin The Bottle!” they shouted at once, before dissolving into giggles.“You want to play spin the bottle,” I asked. "How's that going to work? I notice that there are three women and one guy at this party, and the guy is married to one of the women. Or have you all gone gay all of a sudden?”Marlene, my wife, spoke up. “No, honey, we have not gone gay. And I don't want you having sex with these disreputable sluts, I mean, my best friends. But it's true, you're the only boy at the party.”I looked at her two friends. Loraine was tall, a dishwater blond with a slim body, and Roxy. Roxy was a short, buxom Italian cutie who could not help flirting, no matter what.“Okay,” I said, “What's the idea then?”“Seven minutes of heaven,” Roxy interjected, and everybody took a sip and laughed.“With me,” I wanted to make sure I was understanding this."Well duh,” Marlene said. “We already told you we're not going gay. And you're the only male person here.”I gave her a sharp look. “And you're okay with this,” I asked her."Sure,” she said. “It's just a game. And I am pretty sure you'll have a good time.” Understatement of the year. All three women were grinning at me. I asked, “How does this work?”Roxy said; “whoever it points to, they go into the closet for seven minutes and do anything they want. Then they come out and somebody spins the bottle again.“Marlene: "And since there's one of you, just us girls will spin it, and see who goes in the closet with you.Marlene & I have been married a long time, and I trust that Marlene, same as me, has not been with anybody else for years. Loraine and Roxy were two of my wife's best friends. But I had never even flirted with either of them.The ladies were seated on the floor.  Marlene held the bottle dramatically out in the middle of their circle, looked at both her friends, and gave it a fast spin.It stopped, pointing at Roxy. She's not the shy type but you could see her take a big swallow."Well, Roxy.” my wife said. “You get seven minutes of heaven with Jacob.”“Yeah,” Roxy said, “You're sure this is okay?”“Absolutely,” Marlene said. “But look, how about a rule? No fucking in there, okay?”“Okay.” “Okay.” Loraine and Roxy said.“Unless it's me,” Marlene quipped, and they all giggled.Roxy said, “Okay, here goes.”Now in the hall closet, my ears were ringing, my hands were shaking, my dick was hard. And with Roxy. Are you kidding me?I said, “What are we supposed to –” but Roxy grabbed my head and pulled my face to hers in the dark and opened her mouth and attacked my mouth with her tongue. “Here. let me help you;” she reached behind herself to unsnap her bra and voila, those beautiful breasts fell into my eager hands.She was stroking my cock through my jeans. I could have shot a load right then. I pushed my fingers between her legs and she spread them to let me stroke her over the thin fabric of her pants. Her fingers outlined my penis as they slipped up and down its length, and then we heard a voice call, “That's six minutes!”Roxy giggled and broke our kiss, reached behind herself and put everything back. I stepped back, hoping my erection would subside before the door opened.“Okay, time!”I turned the knob and pushed the closet door open. Loraine and Marlene were sitting on the floor looking at us. I could see Marlene trying not to look at my face too closely, she was dying of curiosity but covering it well.“You ready for the next spin,” Marlene asked me. I felt she was taunting me. My cock at least was not trying to bust my zipper any more."Sure,” I said. “I win every round.”“Yeah, you do,” the ladies agreed. Another sip of wine, more laughter, and Marlene took up the bottle again.“What happens if he gets the same person twice,” Roxy asked."I don't see what's wrong with that,” Marlene said.“Well it doesn't seem fair,” Roxy said. “I mean, I'm all for going in there again, but it wouldn't seem right to leave you two sitting out here waiting that long.”Loraine agreed, and Marlene seemed to see the sense of it. She said, “Okay, so the next round it will just be me and Loraine.” Marlene gave the bottle a twist and let it go and it finally stopped, pointing at my wife.“Huh, that's ironic,” Marlene laughed. “I mean, a guy making out with his own wife, it seems kind of weird.”“Let's try it,” I said, taking her hand. We went into the closet and I kissed her. “I hope you're having fun,” she said.“Are you kidding,” I laughed. Marlene Starts a Blowjob SchoolMarlene dropped to her knees and in two seconds she had my belt unbuckled and my pants pushed down around my knees. "Hey, is that allowed,” I asked. She wrapped her lips around the head of my cock and took several slurps. Then she looked up at me and said, "Yes, it's allowed. I am, after all, married to you.” She took a couple more nibbles and said, “And also, it's not fucking.” Then she put her lips around my cock and sunk her nose down into my pubic hair, deep-throating me and doing something with her tongue on my shaft. She began bobbing up and down on me, slurping and giving me pleasure in ways she had learned after years of marriage. She was an expert cocksucker, I must say.“Now, be careful,” I said. “You don't want to make me cum.”“Why not,” she asked."Because I'll want to stop the game,” I said.“Good point,” she said, as she attacked my penis with her mouth, always stopping just when my breathing turned to moans. She used her hand alongside her lips and kept me on the brink until someone called, “Six minutes.” I helped her to her feet. She kissed me and said, “And don't you forget it.” I could taste the cum in her kiss, definitely a sexy flavor.“Oh, I won't,” I said.A minute later I opened the door and we stepped out. The other two looked at us, again, with curiosity. Marlene and I both smiled at them, and Marlene said, “Well I guess I'm not included in this round.” She sat on the couch and Roxy moved to the floor, across from Loraine.Loraine took the bottle in her hand, but Roxy said, “Lori, you're the only one who hasn't gone in the closet with him. Maybe you ought to just go.”“That wouldn't be fair,” Loraine said. “It wouldn't really be a game, would it?”"It seems fair to me,” Roxy said.“I'll spin it, and we'll see what happens,” Loraine said. With a flick of the wrist she sent the bottle twirling on the carpet between the two of them. All of us watched, fixated on it, imagining possible outcomes. The bottle slowed and came to a stop pointing at Roxy.“See,” Roxy said. "It's me again. That isn't fair.”“Sure it is,” my wife said. “That's how you play.” She gave Roxy a significant look, almost daring her to take this game past the limits.Roxy stared back at her and then stood slowly. “Okay,” she said, “I won this round.”“Yes, you did,” Marlene said with a laugh. “You and Jacob won this one.” Honestly, it seemed like Marlene wanted it to get out of hand.Roxy and I went into the closet and I pulled the door shut. She whispered, “She didn't finish you off in here, did she?”“No,” I said. “Close, but no.”“Good,” Roxy said, and her hand went immediately to my cock, which was already hard in anticipation. We began making out as she jacked me off through the denim of my jeans. I stroked her crotch and she reached down and unbuttoned her cotton pants. “Here, I'll make it easy for you,” she giggled. Her pussy was soaking wet when my fingers got under her panties. I squeezed again, and then began rolling her clit between my fingers slowly, until she arched her back and stifled a profound grunt, buried her face against me and spasmed uncontrollably for half a minute.“ She was laughing when she stopped. "Oh my god,” she whispered. “It has been a long time.” She renewed her attack on my cock and had me near the edge when they called six minutes.I'm sure I looked like I'd been hit over the head with a hammer when we came out. Marlene looked at Loraine and said, “Enough of this, it's your turn. I get him every night.”“Huh, good point,” Loraine said. “Okay, we'll pretend we spun it and it landed on me.”“Sure,” Marlene said. She picked up the bottle and set it on the floor pointing at Loraine. “There you go. Have fun.”Loraine said, “What have you guys been doing in here? I don't know what to do.”“We can do anything you want to do,” I said. “Except fuck me.”She stood there.“Come here,” I said, and I put my arms around her and kissed her, and she kissed like a schoolgirl. I used my tongue to pry her lips apart, and after a minute or so she got the idea. I ran my hands over her body and she responded coyly.She ran her hands over my upper body and whispered, “Is it okay if I touch you?”“Absolutely,” I said. I was not sure what she meant but I liked the sound of it. “I would love that.”Then she surprised the shit out of me by unbuckling my belt, pulling my pants down, and pulling my cock out. She ran her fingers over it, slowly jacking me off, tugging and stroking. I said, “That is amazing.”“You like that,” she said."Yes. A lot. You better be a little careful or you're going to make me cum.”“Wow, really?” She didn't seem to believe me, and continued stroking me.After a couple of minutes of that I said, “You better stop. It was just too good.”“Too good,” she laughed. "Too good?”“Yes,” I said, “If you keep going, the game will be over.”“I see.” I kissed her some more and we made out until they gave the alarm.The other two studied us as we came out. Loraine looked kind of embarrassed and flustered, but happy.“How was it,” Roxy asked, tactlessly."It was great,” I said.“Yes, it was great,” Loraine said.“You still able to keep playing,” my wife taunted me."Yes, absolutely, I wouldn't miss this for the world,” I said. “Let's have a sip of wine and rest up for the next round.”Loraine said, “I was scared at first. In fact, I was glad when the bottle never pointed at me. I thought I'd get out of doing it, going in there with Jacob, I feel much better now. But it was a little awkward. I never know what to do.”“Never,” Marlene asked."Yes,” Loraine said, “With guys. I mean, I just let them do what they want, and that seems to make them happy.”“What would you want to do,” Marlene asked. We were all feeling the intensity of the evening and the wine."I don't know,” Loraine said. “I just don't know how to do anything.”“We all feel like that,” Roxy said.

Single Women Seek Instruction In Fellatio Arts.Based on a post by TheDoctah. Listen to the Podcast at Steamy Stories.We finished the wine bottle, well what else were we going to do with it? My wife's straight-laced friends were getting giggly. The four of us had been having a good time.“Spin The Bottle!” they shouted at once, before dissolving into giggles.“You want to play spin the bottle,” I asked. "How's that going to work? I notice that there are three women and one guy at this party, and the guy is married to one of the women. Or have you all gone gay all of a sudden?”Marlene, my wife, spoke up. “No, honey, we have not gone gay. And I don't want you having sex with these disreputable sluts, I mean, my best friends. But it's true, you're the only boy at the party.”I looked at her two friends. Loraine was tall, a dishwater blond with a slim body, and Roxy. Roxy was a short, buxom Italian cutie who could not help flirting, no matter what.“Okay,” I said, “What's the idea then?”“Seven minutes of heaven,” Roxy interjected, and everybody took a sip and laughed.“With me,” I wanted to make sure I was understanding this."Well duh,” Marlene said. “We already told you we're not going gay. And you're the only male person here.”I gave her a sharp look. “And you're okay with this,” I asked her."Sure,” she said. “It's just a game. And I am pretty sure you'll have a good time.” Understatement of the year. All three women were grinning at me. I asked, “How does this work?”Roxy said; “whoever it points to, they go into the closet for seven minutes and do anything they want. Then they come out and somebody spins the bottle again.“Marlene: "And since there's one of you, just us girls will spin it, and see who goes in the closet with you.Marlene & I have been married a long time, and I trust that Marlene, same as me, has not been with anybody else for years. Loraine and Roxy were two of my wife's best friends. But I had never even flirted with either of them.The ladies were seated on the floor.  Marlene held the bottle dramatically out in the middle of their circle, looked at both her friends, and gave it a fast spin.It stopped, pointing at Roxy. She's not the shy type but you could see her take a big swallow."Well, Roxy.” my wife said. “You get seven minutes of heaven with Jacob.”“Yeah,” Roxy said, “You're sure this is okay?”“Absolutely,” Marlene said. “But look, how about a rule? No fucking in there, okay?”“Okay.” “Okay.” Loraine and Roxy said.“Unless it's me,” Marlene quipped, and they all giggled.Roxy said, “Okay, here goes.”Now in the hall closet, my ears were ringing, my hands were shaking, my dick was hard. And with Roxy. Are you kidding me?I said, “What are we supposed to –” but Roxy grabbed my head and pulled my face to hers in the dark and opened her mouth and attacked my mouth with her tongue. “Here. let me help you;” she reached behind herself to unsnap her bra and voila, those beautiful breasts fell into my eager hands.She was stroking my cock through my jeans. I could have shot a load right then. I pushed my fingers between her legs and she spread them to let me stroke her over the thin fabric of her pants. Her fingers outlined my penis as they slipped up and down its length, and then we heard a voice call, “That's six minutes!”Roxy giggled and broke our kiss, reached behind herself and put everything back. I stepped back, hoping my erection would subside before the door opened.“Okay, time!”I turned the knob and pushed the closet door open. Loraine and Marlene were sitting on the floor looking at us. I could see Marlene trying not to look at my face too closely, she was dying of curiosity but covering it well.“You ready for the next spin,” Marlene asked me. I felt she was taunting me. My cock at least was not trying to bust my zipper any more."Sure,” I said. “I win every round.”“Yeah, you do,” the ladies agreed. Another sip of wine, more laughter, and Marlene took up the bottle again.“What happens if he gets the same person twice,” Roxy asked."I don't see what's wrong with that,” Marlene said.“Well it doesn't seem fair,” Roxy said. “I mean, I'm all for going in there again, but it wouldn't seem right to leave you two sitting out here waiting that long.”Loraine agreed, and Marlene seemed to see the sense of it. She said, “Okay, so the next round it will just be me and Loraine.” Marlene gave the bottle a twist and let it go and it finally stopped, pointing at my wife.“Huh, that's ironic,” Marlene laughed. “I mean, a guy making out with his own wife, it seems kind of weird.”“Let's try it,” I said, taking her hand. We went into the closet and I kissed her. “I hope you're having fun,” she said.“Are you kidding,” I laughed. Marlene Starts a Blowjob SchoolMarlene dropped to her knees and in two seconds she had my belt unbuckled and my pants pushed down around my knees. "Hey, is that allowed,” I asked. She wrapped her lips around the head of my cock and took several slurps. Then she looked up at me and said, "Yes, it's allowed. I am, after all, married to you.” She took a couple more nibbles and said, “And also, it's not fucking.” Then she put her lips around my cock and sunk her nose down into my pubic hair, deep-throating me and doing something with her tongue on my shaft. She began bobbing up and down on me, slurping and giving me pleasure in ways she had learned after years of marriage. She was an expert cocksucker, I must say.“Now, be careful,” I said. “You don't want to make me cum.”“Why not,” she asked."Because I'll want to stop the game,” I said.“Good point,” she said, as she attacked my penis with her mouth, always stopping just when my breathing turned to moans. She used her hand alongside her lips and kept me on the brink until someone called, “Six minutes.” I helped her to her feet. She kissed me and said, “And don't you forget it.” I could taste the cum in her kiss, definitely a sexy flavor.“Oh, I won't,” I said.A minute later I opened the door and we stepped out. The other two looked at us, again, with curiosity. Marlene and I both smiled at them, and Marlene said, “Well I guess I'm not included in this round.” She sat on the couch and Roxy moved to the floor, across from Loraine.Loraine took the bottle in her hand, but Roxy said, “Lori, you're the only one who hasn't gone in the closet with him. Maybe you ought to just go.”“That wouldn't be fair,” Loraine said. “It wouldn't really be a game, would it?”"It seems fair to me,” Roxy said.“I'll spin it, and we'll see what happens,” Loraine said. With a flick of the wrist she sent the bottle twirling on the carpet between the two of them. All of us watched, fixated on it, imagining possible outcomes. The bottle slowed and came to a stop pointing at Roxy.“See,” Roxy said. "It's me again. That isn't fair.”“Sure it is,” my wife said. “That's how you play.” She gave Roxy a significant look, almost daring her to take this game past the limits.Roxy stared back at her and then stood slowly. “Okay,” she said, “I won this round.”“Yes, you did,” Marlene said with a laugh. “You and Jacob won this one.” Honestly, it seemed like Marlene wanted it to get out of hand.Roxy and I went into the closet and I pulled the door shut. She whispered, “She didn't finish you off in here, did she?”“No,” I said. “Close, but no.”“Good,” Roxy said, and her hand went immediately to my cock, which was already hard in anticipation. We began making out as she jacked me off through the denim of my jeans. I stroked her crotch and she reached down and unbuttoned her cotton pants. “Here, I'll make it easy for you,” she giggled. Her pussy was soaking wet when my fingers got under her panties. I squeezed again, and then began rolling her clit between my fingers slowly, until she arched her back and stifled a profound grunt, buried her face against me and spasmed uncontrollably for half a minute.“ She was laughing when she stopped. "Oh my god,” she whispered. “It has been a long time.” She renewed her attack on my cock and had me near the edge when they called six minutes.I'm sure I looked like I'd been hit over the head with a hammer when we came out. Marlene looked at Loraine and said, “Enough of this, it's your turn. I get him every night.”“Huh, good point,” Loraine said. “Okay, we'll pretend we spun it and it landed on me.”“Sure,” Marlene said. She picked up the bottle and set it on the floor pointing at Loraine. “There you go. Have fun.”Loraine said, “What have you guys been doing in here? I don't know what to do.”“We can do anything you want to do,” I said. “Except fuck me.”She stood there.“Come here,” I said, and I put my arms around her and kissed her, and she kissed like a schoolgirl. I used my tongue to pry her lips apart, and after a minute or so she got the idea. I ran my hands over her body and she responded coyly.She ran her hands over my upper body and whispered, “Is it okay if I touch you?”“Absolutely,” I said. I was not sure what she meant but I liked the sound of it. “I would love that.”Then she surprised the shit out of me by unbuckling my belt, pulling my pants down, and pulling my cock out. She ran her fingers over it, slowly jacking me off, tugging and stroking. I said, “That is amazing.”“You like that,” she said."Yes. A lot. You better be a little careful or you're going to make me cum.”“Wow, really?” She didn't seem to believe me, and continued stroking me.After a couple of minutes of that I said, “You better stop. It was just too good.”“Too good,” she laughed. "Too good?”“Yes,” I said, “If you keep going, the game will be over.”“I see.” I kissed her some more and we made out until they gave the alarm.The other two studied us as we came out. Loraine looked kind of embarrassed and flustered, but happy.“How was it,” Roxy asked, tactlessly."It was great,” I said.“Yes, it was great,” Loraine said.“You still able to keep playing,” my wife taunted me."Yes, absolutely, I wouldn't miss this for the world,” I said. “Let's have a sip of wine and rest up for the next round.”Loraine said, “I was scared at first. In fact, I was glad when the bottle never pointed at me. I thought I'd get out of doing it, going in there with Jacob, I feel much better now. But it was a little awkward. I never know what to do.”“Never,” Marlene asked."Yes,” Loraine said, “With guys. I mean, I just let them do what they want, and that seems to make them happy.”“What would you want to do,” Marlene asked. We were all feeling the intensity of the evening and the wine."I don't know,” Loraine said. “I just don't know how to do anything.”“We all feel like that,” Roxy said.

Rick James may have been born into a life of crime, but he was determined to make his way in life through music. He intimidated George Clinton, inspired Prince, and more than likely saved Jim Morrison's life. Rick James was rock ‘n roll's Zelig. He was also sex-crazed, dangerous, and heavily addicted to crack cocaine. These three traits led to two separate arrests for the kidnapping and torture of two different women. Listen to this episode of Disgraceland to hear the tale of the one and only Superfreak, Rick James. To see the full list of contributors, see the show notes at www.disgracelandpod.com. This episode was originally released on October 23, 2018. To listen to Disgraceland ad free and get access to a monthly exclusive episode, weekly bonus content and more, become a Disgraceland All Access member at disgracelandpod.com/membership. Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTER Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: Instagram YouTube X (formerly Twitter)  Facebook Fan Group TikTok To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Understatement der Luxusklasse im alten geschichtsträchtigen Palazzo mitten in Rom

Wir alle tragen einzigartige Stärken in uns – auch wenn uns viele davon vielleicht gar nicht bewusst sind. Dabei sind es genau diese Fähigkeiten, die der Schlüssel zu einem erfolgreichen und erfüllten Leben sind. Doch wie erkennen wir unsere Stärken? Wie können wir sie so einsetzen, dass wir 2025 zu einem starken und kraftvollen Jahr machen? Woran merken wir, ob wir unser volles Potenzial schon ausschöpfen? Und wie gehen wir mit vermeintlichen Schwächen um? 2025 ist das Jahr, in dem wir selbstbewusst unsere eigenen Stärken erkennen, sie leben und sichtbar machen dürfen. Lass dich inspirieren und höre jetzt in die aktuelle Podcastfolge! Jetzt bestellen: Mein neues Buch „Wie Frauen erfolgreich in Männerdomänen durchstarten“ https://amzn.eu/d/hP33p1W Schau vorbei: https://kathrinleinweber.de/ https://www.staerkenkompass.de/uber/ Sind wir schon miteinander verlinkt? https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathrin-leinweber-high-performance-expertin-439b6817a/?originalSubdomain=de

The host walks you through a morning or closing shift cleaning walk-through of your living area, bathroom, and kitchen areas, while giving an update on a previous bonus episode where I discussed a bad pre-k teacher that was picking on my my daughter. (Understatement of the year) and what I did to address this new issue that she has caused.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/clean-with-me--4574793/support.

In this episode of The Fitness Beginner Podcast, we take it back to the beginning of the podcast and talk about why I started the podcast in the first place, why I am so grateful for each and every one of you who listens, and we also go over my Spotify wrapped results for the year of 2024. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thefitnessbeginner/support

Stephan Wolfer produziert mit Everve Radhosen made in Germany, genauer gesagt auf der Schwäbischen Alb. Eins Spitzes Sortiment, technisch extrem ausgereift und mit einer starken Fanbase. Wir sprechen über die Produktion auf der Schwäbischen Alb, Understatement und Pläne für die Zukunft. Nun aber rein ins Gespräch mit Dr. Stephan Wolfer von Everve.

Als Skorer habe er sich nie gesehen, sagt Jörg Eberle einmal. Das ist ziemlich viel Understatement für einen, der in der NLA 379 Tore schoss, und der bis im letzten Jahr Rekord-Torschütze der Nationalmannschaft war. Der Appenzeller gilt als einer der besten Spieler in der Geschichte des Schweizer Eishockeys. Schon mit 20 – und als NLB-Spieler – erhielt er das erste Aufgebot fürs Nationalteam. An der B-WM 1986 wurde er ins All-Star-Team gewählt, zwei Jahre später war er Topskorer der Schweizer an den Olympischen Spielen in Calgary und 1992 führte er das Team an der WM in Prag sensationell in den Halbfinal.In der NLA leitete Eberle mit dem HC Lugano gewissermassen die Moderne ein. Er war 1985 einer der ersten Spieler, die einen Profivertrag erhielten. Bald schon war vom «Grande Lugano» die Rede, das in fünf Jahren vier Meistertitel gewann – nicht zuletzt, weil Eberle Tor um Tor schoss.In der neusten Folge des «Eisbrecher»-Podcasts erzählt der 62-Jährige, wie ihn Luganos legendärer Präsident Geo Mantegazza – ein Milliardär – einst ins Tessin gelockt hat. Und er erklärt, weshalb der vor einem Monat verstorbene Mantegazza zu einem guten Freund wurde. Eberle gewährt Einblicke in legendäre Tessiner Derbys und hochkarätige Duelle mit dem SC Bern Ende der 80er-Jahre. Und er sagt, weshalb er sich vor vier Jahren ausgerechnet dazu entschieden hat, für Luganos Erzrivalen Ambri zu arbeiten.

„Da willst du ein Feuerwerk zum Jubiläum zünden – und am Ende bist du froh, dass du eine Wunderkerze angezündet bekommst.“ Mit diesem humorvollen Kommentar eröffnet Chris die 300. Folge des Pferdepodcasts („Wir beachten nicht meine Haare“). Ob das nur Understatement ist oder doch die Wahrheit, entscheiden am besten die Zuhörer. Fest steht: In unserer Jubiläumsfolge ist wieder jede Menge los, und wir haben einige spannende Themen für euch parat.

Episode 3959: Treason Is An Understatement

This week on the pod jD and Matt discuss some U2 trivia before ceding the floor to Thomas and returning guest, Ryan McNeil. Transcript: Track 3:[0:28] Ryan McNeil. And now, curator of the Hall, J.D.Track 3:[0:39] Thank you so much, Doug Dines. It is great to be back here in the SNL Hall of Fame at the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. My name is J.D., and I would love to welcome you in, but my goodness, this fall season has made your shoes all mucky-muck. Give them a wipe, won't ya? The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair where each episode we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer, and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener, to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall. And that's how we play the game. It's just that simple.Track 3:[1:36] You listen. You vote. You listen again. You complain. We've got a spot for that now. That's the SNL Hall of Fame water cooler, which is going to appear in your feed every Thursday. Day and it's going to be discussing that week's episode in a little more critical focus and view inside the context of the hall so we hope you'll enjoy that send us an email snl8 the snl hof.Track 3:[2:14] At gmail.com, So there's that. This week we have a great show. My friend Ryan McNeil is joining us. He is a multi-time guest on the show. Tends to focus on music and he is doing that once again talking about U2, nominating U2. So that should be interesting to hear. If you enjoy what you hear, please follow him at thematinee.ca. That's his blog, his movie-loving blog, and there is the podcast of the same name. Let's find our friend Matt Ardill and see what he has to say, that son of a gun. Matt!Track 4:[2:59] Diddy. You too. What do you got?Track 4:[3:04] Yeah, I mean, they're from Ireland. I think that was obvious by like two seconds of listening to them. They formed in 1976. They were formed by Larry Mullen Jr. Posted a note on his school notice board for musicians starting as a seven piece called Feedback. Uh then they started whittling away and became hype and then eventually got down to uh the lineup we know larry mullen jr bono the edge and adam clayton becoming you too now bono's real name is paul david hewson the edge's real name is david howell evans um and they're they how they got got their nicknames or kind of internet edge got his nickname from the shape of his face uh so um it's it's he's edgy um larry and adam also have nicknames which you don't often see uh larry's being yeah jam jar uh that's what they like to call him um and adam was mrs burns um i mean it's It's clear that these are names that that are given in jest because Bono's actual full nickname came from an abbreviation like Bono came from an abbreviation of his full nickname, which is Bono Vox of O'Connell Street.Track 4:[4:30] Really? Yeah, I, you know, the Irish, we're a mystery. Um now he's inspired by everything from uh Brian Eno or they are inspired by from everything from Brian Eno to Thin Lizzy to Joy Division and the Beatles um to say their their their inspirations are diverse.Track 4:[4:52] Understatement um now they kind of broke big by winning a saint patrick's day talent show in limerick in 1978 they won 500 pounds and studio time which resulted in the demo they gave to cbs records in ireland um their first release was an ep entitled three which was released only in ireland um they are very charitably minded um including amnesty international make poverty history the one campaign live aid live eight data uh music rising and goodness knows how many more charities um they are the fourth band on the cover of time magazine the others being the beatles the band and the who um so they're the only one without company yeah pretty good company and the only one without the in their name so uh that makes them unique but yeah i mean like what what other band like those are three of the best bands of all time so can't complain they're actually one of the few bands though that turned down doing a uh by john peel um get out of here Yeah, John Peele's like, no, no, I don't like them.Track 4:[6:12] Oh, they were turned down by Peele. Yeah, Peele's just like, no, I don't want to do it. The UK Tastemaker was one of the few big hits he refused.Track 4:[6:22] The others being The Police and Dire Straits. Peele shrugged it off in the not a fan category.Track 4:[6:32] Basically, just didn't like them. So they are a bit polarizing. I have an ex-wife who hated U2. So, yeah. They're the only Irish band to win a Grammy for Album of the Year. They hold the record for the most Grammys won by one band at 22. They went on to do a 40-night residency at the Las Vegas Globe, filling the 160-square-foot venue. I have to correct you. Sorry. The Sphere. Sphere? The Sphere. Okay. Yes. The Sphere. The Sphere. Okay, let's go back. No, no. they didn't just leave it let's just leave that yeah okay um they they sold 281 000 tickets uh making 109.8 million dollars get out of here yeah uh they they don't need any money they're doing fine um now apple they aren't without controversy aside from my ex-wife um apple Apple pushed their album, Songs of Innocence, with no way to remove it, which pissed people off so much. Apple had to develop a special program to remove the album after it was pushed to devices without permission.Track 4:[7:59] But in 2005, they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and have also received a Kennedy Center Honor in 2022. 22 she was very well decorated yeah so they are a band with uh the credits to to get in pretty much anywhere they want so will they get one more accolade this season in the much maligned musical guest category matt uh i don't know i don't know they are certainly friends of the show and uh they they pack a ton of credibility as far as having a worldwide band in 8h you know pretty neat kind of thing um what do you say we head downstairs, can't wait let's give it all right thomas take it away.Track 2:[9:25] Yes, JD and Matt, thank you so, so much. Today's an exciting day here on the SNL Hall of Fame. I'm going to be talking about a band that I absolutely love. Arguably, at their peak, the biggest band in the world. I'm not even sure how arguable that is. I think they were the biggest band in the world. And joining me to talk all things U2 and SNL, back for what I like to call another edition of Ryan's Music Corner here on the SNL Hall of Fame. That's kind of what I've pigeonholed him as, but like awesome musical guests. So without further ado, I want to welcome Ryan McNeil to the podcast. Ryan, what's up, my man? You know what? I just keep on trying to get one of these bands into the hall. I also just selfishly love coming by to just talk about my favorite bands. Come on back next time, kids, while I talk about Jack White.Track 2:[10:23] We're just going through the list. You know, I'm basically getting to talk about all of my favorite acts. And I'm sure there are legions of people who have met me over the course of my life who cannot believe that you gents have given me a soapbox to talk about you two. There are whole swaths of people that are saying, in the long list of bad ideas, this is a very bad idea. Oh boy, here we go. oh, yeah, that's how I can get with a lot of my favorite bands as well. You just pull the cord and then watch us go.Track 2:[10:55] It's shutting me up. That's the hard part. Yeah. Our Dave Grohl episode was a little like that, which was one of my favorite episodes that I've done. This is now the fifth season that I've been doing these conversations. And our Dave Grohl episode was still one of my favorite episodes. So I think we can handle this one. Nice. Can't wait. Yeah, me too. Before we get to that, though, you have a podcast that I love, a movie podcast, The Matinee Cast. So, man, what's been happening over on your pod? We just wrapped up a season. My seasons end in August because September for film is a little weird. So I usually just take the month to kind of reset. And I send a postcard from TIFF, which happens in Toronto the week after Labor Day. So there would have been a TIFF postcard that went out about what we saw, what the week was like, what the festival was like. And then we get ready in October for a whole new season. and I've lost count of how many seasons. I guess this would be, oh shit, this would be our 15th season actually. No kidding. Yeah. That's impressive. I'm a senior citizen when it comes to podcasting.Track 2:[12:02] I was telling Darren Patterson was on with me recently for Garrett Morrison. He does the SNL Nerds podcast and he was saying they're on their 300th episode. I'm like, you realize that most podcasts go to like four or five episodes and then quit? Yeah. So this is like, that's really impressive, man. If you hit double digits, you're doing muscle. So I, the, one of the things that keeps me going is I only do them every other week. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's true. That's only spread. Yeah. Spreading that out. Uh, so will you be covering the Saturday night movie in October?Track 2:[12:32] Good question. Uh, in the past, yes, yes, I would have been, but Tiff for me, uh, around 2016, I changed my approach actually to the, to the Toronto international film festival. And that was the first year where I was really limited to what I could see. I had a very shortened window that year, so I needed to pare things down. And I started that year only going to see the films at TIFF that were directed by women, which cut a big chunk out of the festival and really made it easier to choose how many films I was going to see. And I had such a great time that year. It really kind of gave me a new lane in the festival that I just stayed in that lane. So ordinarily, I would be. Uh, I've seen several Jason Reitman films at the film festival. He kind of loves going there. Um, and I, I love a lot of how Saturday night looks, uh, but I, you know, rules are rules. So, uh, no, so not at the festival, but I will be seeing it. Uh, and then on the podcast, I'm sure we'll be covering it. Yeah. I might, I might, I might have to bring in JD to talk about that one. So yeah, Saturday night movies coming out in October, October 11th, I believe. So I'm, I'm pumped about that. So I can't wait to hear if you have an episode about that. I can't wait to hear your thoughts.Track 2:[13:48] I'm looking forward to it, for sure. Yeah, for sure. So a few months ago, you and I were talking about what other bands we could cover here on the SNL Hall of Fame. No offense, if my other guests are listening to this, Ryan, with the musical guest, does get special treatment, I suppose, and kind of picking his brain about, so what other bands would you want to talk about? And you brought up U2 pretty immediately and excitedly. So what does U2 as a music fan, Ryan, mean to you?Track 2:[14:19] U2 is my band. And it's a strange thing to say that because I realize how many people in the world really don't like U2. There's a lot of people who love them. You know, they're still packing thousands to their concerts all over the world, including, you know, sometimes when they're just doing a Las Vegas show for a few months. Uh but there's a lot of people who hate them a lot of people who think they're overexposed their music is boring that they're still mad at them for putting music on their ipod um but i when i was.Track 2:[14:55] 13 14 years old started listening to their songs and they spoke to me and i have never really let go of them it's it's an interesting feeling now because it kind of they're not what interests me from day to day i i latch more onto bands like the national and uh kendrick lamar and saint vincent and bands like that um but you two always feels like going home um so even watching a lot of these performances were songs that i haven't actually played in some time but i know every word to so they they are my favorite band ever uh they always will be uh they're they're are confounding at times but i i love the holy heck out of them yeah yeah i love them too and i'm that way my favorite band is radiohead and i'm that way with radiohead because i don't go and listen to radiohead every single day i can go a long time without listening to radiohead but when i decide to put okay computer on it's like i'm coming back home man like the warm and fuzzies and everything so i can see that uh for sure about you too um i i've loved them um probably Probably more so in the last 15 years or so. But even when I was a kid growing up, like the Joshua Tree, I was so familiar with that album, Octoon Baby.Track 2:[16:12] So they've been a part of my life. Like they've just been ever present since I've known what music was. Would you agree? I mean, there was a time when they were the biggest, like the biggest band in the world, right? Oh, absolutely. They kind of, it was interesting because, yes, is the short answer. Yes, and to, you know, to honor SNL. Yes, and they kept trying to get the belt back.Track 2:[16:37] And we'll talk about that when we start talking about their performances. But what's interesting is right now, if you ask me for cash and prizes, who is the biggest band in the world? I legit do not know. The biggest band in the world is probably a solo act of some sort that I cannot think of a group of individuals that I would say is the biggest band in the world. I know who the biggest artist is, but like band, you're right. I couldn't name the biggest band. Yeah. And, you know, there was this lineage for a while of bands like U2 and Guns N' Roses and Oasis and, you know, and so on and so forth. Coldplay for a while, Radiohead for sure, that were, you know, capital letters, the biggest band in the world. I don't know who it is now, but yeah, U2, they've had this up and down career. It's strange to say that when you consider how omnipresent they are, but they have had these wild fluctuations in their career where people either really love what they're doing and identify with it or cannot stand it and completely reject it. And it's no in between. Yeah, I know someone who rejects U2 almost because she says that Bono, well-intended with his community service and world – essentially world service pursuits, comes off as a bit – Preachy. Preachy, yeah. Self-importance. Exactly.Track 2:[18:01] So she says that in a wrong way, but – Yeah. I say this as a fan, the band would probably be more successful if Bono wasn't working on his humanitarian stuff as much as he is. Yeah, so I know that's a critique. Before we get into their SNL stuff too, you saw them at the Sphere in Vegas. I did. And I think our listeners need just a quick review of the show that you saw, man. I went with my best friend of 35 years, who is also a big U2 fan. It was his idea. And we really didn't know what we were getting into. We were able to get tickets on the floor, which was in classic U2 style, were the cheapest seats in the house. It's like, if you want to stand on the floor, we are more than happy to have you and you can get in for less. And what is trippy about that room i say this to everybody who's listening if your band plays that venue go like pull the money out of savings and go because that room is has to be seen to be believed it's the size of a basketball arena but built for art so the problem with a basketball with any kind of venue that you see a band in is you're watching a place that's designed for sports and television, not music. Sound is not even secondary. Sound is probably third, fourth, or fifth down the list.Track 2:[19:31] The sight lines were gorgeous the screen is incredible it's 26 stories tall and the set like they just put on an incredible show it was um it was the best i've ever seen them but they were helped in a big way by the venue uh and and just again it felt like going home like all those songs just hit me anew yeah i was simultaneously jealous but super happy for you at the same time because i know how much you love you too so and in classic u2 style they turned their sphere residency into this running gag you know where people by the time they got to the end of the residency people were comparing them to the phantom of the opera that's just stuck in the sphere and cannot leave oh that's great yeah that's awesome so yeah so if you ever if one of your favorite bands plays the sphere take it from run don't walk yes yeah run don't walk go check it out um so we're gonna as far as you two on snl we're gonna do a little something different to start the show because I've brought you two up with some really big SNL geeks and they've told me the same thing like you two's awesome but SNL didn't get them like at their peak necessarily.Track 2:[20:39] So I'm like yeah like I had to concede that like they they didn't so I want to do an exercise with Ryan I'm going to take part in this too we're going to do a little fantasy booking before we get into their actual performances and for SNL hall of fame voting purposes this does not count toward the rest of the Hall of Fame. This is just mine and Ryan's kind of nerdy exercise here, brief fantasy booking here. So I told Ryan between about 1980 and 1991, if they appeared twice in that time period, how would you book those appearances and when? So I want to start, do you want to kick it off, Ryan, or how do you want to do this? How many do I get? Two appearances. Two appearances. And standard SNL, so that should guide you as to how many songs they perform. Okay, okay. So in that case, here's what I want to do. I want to go... I actually want to start earlier in their career. I don't want to go all the way back to Boy in 1980. I want to bring them in when they're touring War. war. So the war came out in 1983. Yep. 83, 82. 83.Track 2:[21:57] I should have this stuff committed to memory. And I think that would have been interesting if that was one of the episodes where Drew Barrymore hosted. And I would love to see them play Sunday Bloody Sunday and New Year's Day. Oh yeah yeah okay they're like that era of the band it's almost it's almost foreign to see now because they're so lo-fi they're much they're much more in tune with where they came from like you know them coming from ireland in the late 70s and being inspired by the ramones and the clash and you know those kinds of bands and television like you wouldn't expect that now when you watch them play and you see them being so larger than life and so anthemic, you wouldn't think that they were guys who were inspired by white men at Hammersmith Palais, but they were. So to go back to that era and to watch them be so young, so full of energy, like their songs were so fast, that I would love to see on the SNL stage. I think that would fit in really well with a lot of that early SNL aesthetic too, when it was much more DIY.Track 2:[23:11] Yep ebersole that's the ebersole era yeah still that they would have that they would have come into uh yeah as well yeah yeah i like that uh it's kind of funny we had parallel thinking right there um because for mine i i waited for them to have like three albums under their belt kind of get more and more of their name out there so i had them for war as well after the war album and i wanted to see them play sunday bloody sunday and like a song i think like a song is this energetic love it kind of big sounding i think they would they would have totally ripped like a song they would have in 8h and uh so i have them doing yeah sunday bloody sunday like a song i don't think they were the band in 83 to get the preferential third song no but so that's why only having them do two songs but i think that's a nice like sunday bloody sunday we both have because that's just like the chill inducing that's the one that you play first that's what what people know. But then like, yeah, you and I kind of differed on the second song. But interesting that we both had them around the war period of 83. Yeah. I mean, I do love when SNL brings a band in early in their career. You know, it's wild to say in this case, early in their career being three years and three albums in, arguably at the point where they cemented the fact that they were going to stick around. Because after the second record, people weren't really sure. And nowadays they wouldn't have made it to a third record.Track 2:[24:38] But yeah, that that was the point where it's like, OK, no, these these these lads have something to say. So for appearance number two in our fantasy booking, Ryan, where do you go?Track 2:[24:48] I could go several different ways, to be entirely honest. I'm going to go against my instinct. And I'm going to say I want to bring them back in 1991 when they were on the heels of the Actung Baby album, when they really reinvented themselves. I think Jason Priestley would host that show. And I would love to see them play The Fly and Mysterious Ways. Okay. Yeah, I'm curious about The Fly. The.Track 2:[25:18] Fly is so fun visually like The Fly was when they went and did this album that was so different than everything else they'd already done it wasn't as rootsy it wasn't that DIY record it was this really you know produced by Brian Eno very Berlin inspired music that actually cost them a lot of fans like there were a lot of fans that were like out at that point but The Fly was really where the band and Bono leaned into this music and it's got this like fuzz boxy kind of guitar and he's dressed up in this like patent leather with these stupid goggles and he's acting all very larger than life and very um you know acrobatic uh it it visually it's great it would be great tv yeah yeah no i can see that that's a that's a good call so you so you said you had um and mysterious ways and mysterious ways just because i think that's a song uh that they would probably like they were the the visual for that one was a a belly dancer so i could foresee a belly dancer kind of doing their thing on the stage with them yeah good call so parallel thinking for us again man so oh you went there as well i went there as well so actoon baby i went in 1991 i'm gonna give them keifer sutherland okay as the host skid row was the actual musical guest for keifer sutherland we're kicking skid row out and we're bringing you two in love it so uh so i went with mysterious ways their most popular song i think off of Vac Tune Baby.Track 2:[26:46] I think it would play well in 8H. This is my personal favorite U2 song.Track 2:[26:53] It's acrobat okay so you know you know what's interesting is that neither one of us went for one yeah i looked at one and i'm like no i want to get off of that i was like thomas gonna choose that um but um i didn't go populist this time no acro and acrobat again it would sound and look.Track 2:[27:12] Incredible um i believe i've heard them play that i don't hold me to that but it's it's it's very deep in the record. I think if it's not the second last track, it's the third from the end. It's kind of where people usually tune out, but yeah, it's a really soaring guitars.Track 2:[27:29] Oh, swirling music. Love that song so much. Very underrated song. A hundred percent. And the soaring guitars is what gets me. And that's, that's why it's my favorite you to song. Cause I hear it and I'm like, this is just like chill inducing. It's amazing. I think it would rock. I think it would just sound so good. I could imagine the lighting Bono getting so into it. Um, Ryan, I have them playing a third song because by 1991, they're so huge. I think they're going to close out the good nights and I have them playing. I still haven't found what I'm looking for at the end, a little crowd pleaser during the good nights. I can totally just totally see that happen. So I'm giving them a third song. It's going to go back to the Joshua tree. I still haven't found what I'm looking for to close it out. Okay. I like it. I like it a lot. That would set a precedent for, for you to doing a third song because we saw that a couple Double time. So. So that was fantasy booking with me and Ryan geeking out a little bit because we missed, I think a lot of SNL fans missed you two kind of at their peak. It's kind of a Prince thing. I think Ryan, like amazing artists, but we didn't see like the peak necessarily on the show. This is true. Prince, at least he showed up and then he disappeared and he came back. It was kind of like Bowie too. He showed up, he disappeared, and then he came back.Track 2:[28:51] U2, they never had that. And they went, again, we've got 20 years of their career before they show up. They're teetering on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame by the time they finally arrive.Track 2:[29:06] And it's not like they weren't performing on television. It's not like they weren't doing well or doing that kind of appearance. Their music videos at the time were very known for kind of taking over public spaces. So it's, I have no idea, maybe just the stars could never align to get them in or what, but it's a really wild thing to see this band not just show up fully formed, because we've talked about that on this show before, but just show up several rounds, it's like several peaks and valleys into their career.Track 2:[29:39] And that they had interaction on stage with a couple of, or with at least one or two SNL characters. Didn't Wayne and Garth kind of do some sort of cross thing with them on MTV? They did. Yeah. There was a, there was the MTV awards one year, Dana Carvey hosted it. And at one point he came out as Garth and he got to drum with them. They were, the funny thing is they were like from, by satellite from whatever live concert they were doing. Right. But he was drumming like really live because at the time it was the Zoo TV tour where he He was like flipping channels and like the TV part of it was very big. And at one point he flipped to Garth and Garth was drumming with them. Yeah, that's so cool. So there's a little bit of an SNL connection. Yeah, they're in early 90s. But when they first made their debut and I said the SNL fans missed out, they didn't miss out on great performances. Certainly. They just kind of missed out on like when U2 was like the biggest band in the world kind of band. Yeah, they missed out on eras is what they missed out on. To steal the label of the current biggest artist in the world. Yeah, exactly. So their first appearance, season 26, episode 7, that was December of 2000. Val Kilmer, your host. This was after they released All That You Can't Leave Behind. I think the songs that they performed completely made sense. The first one was Beautiful Day.Track 2:[31:05] Someone you could lend a hand To turn the world around To you there's my hand, I'll face the sky for the fear I'll face the future for the day.Track 2:[31:25] Down the road On record, I think it's an okay song to me. But live like I was super impressed by this one what do you think Ryan so the wild thing about this moment is this is them coming back, So the late 90s was not kind to U2. They were disappearing for long stretches. Their tours were only so-so.Track 2:[31:54] And people were already tired of them. People were like, ah, they've lost it. So then they go and they make this song that is structurally very strange, should not work. And even me as a fan, I was like, well, it's OK. And then all of my non-U2 friends were playing it and playing it and playing it. And it became this huge song in 2000 that was their big comeback hit. And you're right, live it gets additional legs. And this one I've definitely heard live several times. And, you know, even just when Val Kilmer is introducing them, you can hear the crowd is already like ramped up and ready to adore it. I noticed that too. there's like an anticipation like pent up yeah for like years yeah yeah they make it all look so easy uh what i love about this song is it shows how loud these four boys can get like they're they're you know it's just four instruments there's no extra there's no strings behind them there's no keys or nothing like that that's filling things in it's just them they make a lot of noise and they get a very very big sound and it's it's wild because they make 8h seem like an arena when they're playing this song yeah absolutely i do want to shout out the boys by name we've mentioned bono and of.Track 2:[33:09] Course on yes on the guitar edge david evans to his mother but edge to everybody else um adam clayton on the bass larry mullen jr on the drums those two are uh unsung heroes in that band they are they are incredibly talented and could do anything they They wanted to, if, if they were ever got bored of doing this job and, and they, and they shine later on, we'll talk about them again in a second. Yeah. But yeah, these two songs, beautiful day in elevation.Track 2:[33:37] They really showed off. Um what the band was ready to do like they were ready to take back their place at the top of the charts um elevation was actually kind of interested as well both of them bono has a real trick of knowing when and where he is um at all times and this episode was on december 9th 2000 which was almost 20 years to the day that john lennon was killed in new york so in both songs there are snippets of john lennon music he does um i think it's all you need is love in the first song and instant karma in the second song so it's it's he's got a real trick of knowing where and when he is at all times and kind of alluding to that so um lennon's another person who really inspired bono especially but the band for sure so seeing those two things caught on on camera was really wild and knowing where he is like to to quote like the cowbell sketch from around that time bono was exploring the studio space yes in 8h man like i loved when like there was already great energy to begin with and then bono goes into the crowd walks around messes with the camera a little bit he loves doing that he loves messing with cameras like at the so you see him alive will he kind of like find a camera that's shooting like the big screen he'll kind of mess with it too Mm-hmm. Always. That's been his favorite trick since 91.Track 2:[35:05] Oh, okay. Yeah. He messed with the Studio 8H camera. The crowd was on fire at the end of this. They really did. And it really was this wild moment in 2000 where this band that everybody had more or less moved on from, all of a sudden just came back unexpectedly.Track 2:[35:58] Their first snl appearance an event it sounded like an event you would reference their music sounds big we would use the term soaring which i think both of these songs qualify it so that both of them sounded so big on that little stage and and and it worked it just it just so like completely worked so i thought it was like an event the first time like yeah 20 years in the making and it delivered absolutely so their second appearance season 30 episode 6 mr luke wilson uh hosting a couple of days this is november 20th of 04 so it was a couple days still before they were going to release how to dismantle an atomic bomb i think vertigo was already kind of out there in the ether and being played and that was the first song that they chose again um made sense typical big U2 sound I mean sound like a broken record I enjoy this performance very much.Track 2:[37:22] We'll be right back. The, vertigo had latched into a lot of people's consciousness because it was the ipod commercial it was it was kind of this controversial moment of had you two just sold out um back you know back when that was a taboo thing nowadays that's part of that that's part of your income but um you know, for this band that was very much about altruism and about selflessness. And, you know, yeah, listen, they make money, but they weren't about selling their souls to sell Cadillacs. It was like, what do you mean they licensed their music to Apple? And the story then turned into, oh, no, no, they let Apple use it, but they didn't take the money. Vertigo. This is where Larry and Edge are playing their asses off. The bass line and the drum line of that song is deceptively good that just kind of gets lost behind that guitar riff that's so easy and bono doing his yeah yeah yeahs throughout the whole thing It's a fun song to sing along to. They play it up again, really loud, really big.Track 2:[38:30] It's it's it's yeah, it's just take no prisoners holding the belt. You know, they're the biggest band in the world again. And it's like we're not letting go. It took us seven years or six or seven years to get back to the mountaintop. We're not getting off the mountaintop just yet. Yeah, I felt that, too, for sure. And it's kind of funny because maybe it's like, I don't know, like because Bono's wearing wearing sunglasses indoors or something. He always does. Yeah. Like it occurred to me while watching this, how much of a giant rock star that he is. And that might, yeah, that might sound like such an obvious statement, but like watching him command the stage just makes me think like, oh yeah, this is what a rock star is. And you can't really learn how to do this. It's almost seems like it's something that's in you. And so watching Bono, it's like, he knows, he knows how to command the stage you referenced he he he lives for the moment so that's like with watching vertigo again yeah adam play and edge stood out but bon i looked it was like bonos of damn rock star yes yeah the.Track 2:[39:33] Amazing thing about going back to this episode after vertigo and its braggadociousness um is they come back and they play this song that was a huge single off this record but i've actually almost forgotten about it called sometimes you can't make it on your own long.Track 2:[40:16] This song is one that Bono wrote in the wake of losing his father.Track 2:[40:25] And I knew that at the time. I knew that. I follow every darn thing that the band does. But for some reason, I didn't really hear it properly at the time. And now coming back to it after my own father has passed away, this song is just dripping with grief and it's got this beautiful build um some incredibly frank lyrics that when you learn more about um bono's relationship with his father and what that all entailed which would be enough to fill a whole show um and not in a way that's the typical like angsty father-son relationship but actually a very very close one um the song gets a whole other layer so watching it in in preparation for this conversation it hit me a lot harder than it has in the past um and it's something that i i do recommend people go back to if they've never heard the song or if they've forgotten the song listen to it because it's just it's one of their more underrated songs and the way they perform it and it becomes this slow beautiful build into to just this beautiful embrace is really something special to see yeah it was great sometimes you can't make it on your own uh is the song two things that stood out to me really was like.Track 2:[41:50] Edge really shines during this performance for me i love that soaring guitar yeah that's part of the build-up that you mentioned and then it turns into this soaring guitar that edge does so well and i don't know if it's it's the guitar tone and the youtube does a lot especially live with like reverb and making it sound big and stuff like that but that's what like he's a mad professor yeah right yeah edge's guitar just totally like sung and soared to me and.Track 2:[42:18] It almost it did make me think too that even their slower songs sound huge oh yes that's an accomplishment but their slow songs have this build up and they just sound enormous like this is a band ryan that was i think you listen to boy and i think when i listened to boy which was their first album that they're already made for the arena instantly i think i will follow is the first song off of.Track 2:[42:42] Boy and i listened to that and i'm like they're made for the arena they did like they were they were aiming big they they they aimed big and they hit it yeah absolutely so you can see that in their slow songs yes as well so this is like a perfect example and i just did a segue and i didn't even mean to do that i looked up and i was like oh yeah um this song this next song would have been if we were doing fantasy booking early on i would have chosen i will follow um so i love that they did this during the good nights they got a third song what a special moment like how cool was this.Track 2:[43:54] Watch them play a song that's 24 years old at that point just you know rip the roof off the the studio the crowd is in it the cast is losing their minds one of my favorite parts one o'clock in the morning and everybody is just wrapped you know everybody is loving their them saying good night with this classic yeah i mean bono's doing his bono thing he's walking throughout eight age messing with the camera he gives a lady in the audience a lap dance and she kind of grabs him though like oh yeah she was she was like she's like fanning herself after yeah yeah she's enjoying it it was such a cool shot like you mentioned all the cast members on home base dancing he hugs amy poehler well she looks like she's about ready to like her heart's gonna burst completely she was so into you can see parnell and dratch and maya and will forte and finesse mitchell like they're They're all getting into it. What a, just the best good nights of all time, maybe. Like, yeah, definitely. Right. Very unexpected. And it plays so well. Yeah. And do you know about this? Like, um, they seemingly played more after the show ended and, and, and they moved on. I read about that. Yeah. I read about that. Like, I mean, it's the, you usually do have to kind of drag them off stage. They will keep going as long as they want to. Yeah. Uh, but they're kind of like Bruce Springsteen in that way. Uh, but, uh, yeah, they, apparently they played, they kept on playing, but I, and I, and you, And as I said, if you watch that crowd, you would not know that it's 1 o'clock in the morning at that point because nobody's going anywhere.Track 2:[45:24] No, they weren't. And I think Bono even announced, like, we're not going to go. Like, can we stay or whatever? So the camera, the show ended. And as U2 was starting another song. I don't know what song. No idea. I can probably look it up. Check the show notes, folks. Yeah, I'm sure the U2 fan community.Track 2:[45:42] It's listed somewhere. I'm sure it is. But to be in that crowd. No, I'm kidding.Track 2:[45:48] Can you imagine? Oh, that was awesome. So I will follow one of my personal favorite U2 songs, a special moment to close their second appearance on Saturday Night Live, like some legendary moments already, making up for lost time, as we mentioned. Most definitely. Yeah, absolutely. They come back not too long after, like the five-year gap, September of 2009. Five years is a long time. Let's not cut this short here. Five years in between appearances five years in between records is a very long time in this century it was a long time in the 80s like that that's one of the things that's held this band back is they have always worked very slow and for a long time that was okay when bands were taking that much time in between albums the world has sped up they have not but yeah no five years from 2004 to 2009 that is a very long time yeah i guess i because i was like oh we've been waiting 20 years since their first appearance so yeah well i mean yeah comparatively in in the music world and like to be an snl uh musical guest yeah i think five years um so people were aching for him to come back and so they had released no line on the horizon uh earlier in the year so they made an appearance in september of 2009 megan fox hosting first song breathe and i i think this is a song that i've always loved the melody i love that there's a little bit of heaviness but then it It kind of pulls back.Track 2:[47:13] There's not too much, like it doesn't like, it's not too crunchy. So there's a lot I've always really enjoyed about this song. So this appearance they're fighting like i said you know the the second appearance they're still on the mountaintop and they're they don't want to let go this one they're fighting to stay there and they're fighting hard and they're not really gonna stay there because this record is not gonna do what the last two did um the songs are for me not as good uh no i think this is the weakest of I am looking squarely at you, Bono, because musically, there is something that I would love to have. And I'm sure one way or another, I could probably get it in the age of AI. I want this record without vocals because musically it is stunning. The lyrics are terrible.Track 2:[48:38] But it's a season premiere. So, you know, if you want to talk about like what the show thinks of the band at this stage, they're giving them opening night. Night um they this is another time where they get three songs and two of the three are very long breathe and moment of surrender are both really long numbers moment of surrender like six and a half minutes yeah something like that yeah yeah yeah um the band musically though is doing some amazing things like you talked about watching edge's guitar in um in sometimes you can't make watching him play in moment of surrender is just sublime yeah yeah i agree um even larry mullen jr in breathe really stood out oh yeah yeah his drums are just drumming or gore is gorgeous it's great and that's like uh it's funny because that's what i noticed too is it's it's more so like edge and adam clayton and larry mullen jr standing out that it is bono yes here three out of four Four people did their job. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. But I think the moment of surrender, so I'll say this, that's probably my least favorite of their SNL performances, which says more about how great U2 has been on the show. Yeah. Because it's still good.Track 2:[49:57] Yeah. But it's just like you're watching it. You're comparing it to I Will Follow. Yeah. To Elevation. You're comparing it to all of these great performances. It's a beautiful day. Compare it to their debut and it's like, hmm.Track 2:[50:09] Yeah. Yeah. So so but even that even moment of surrender it's long. It's my least favorite, but I'm like I'm like watching it going it's.Track 2:[50:17] So yeah so that's just don't listen to the words yeah watch three out of four and don't listen to the words and you'll love it yeah luckily i'm not like i say that as a fan what's that yeah i'm not total a total like lyrics guy too like that's the lyrics are the last thing that i'll notice in the song so that's probably to my place to my their benefit with right right um but you mentioned they did a third song again um and this is where like yeah ultraviolet like during the good nights like interesting visuals to me this is where things get cool because while.Track 2:[50:50] Most of what they do in their snl career is very small and club-like theater like this is a band that still plays stadiums uh to this day still play stadiums and not a lot of bands can put on a full stadium show uh you know beyonce can taylor can of course but i mean and i say this is a person who appreciates his music but and and you know listeners please write in and tell me what is an ed sheeran concert like in a stadium you know what i mean like i i can't i can't fathom that uh but this is a band that can still do a large spectacle and you get a glimmer of it with ultraviolet.Track 2:[52:00] This tour had this really cool like claw, this very big circular stage. Oh, that was the claw. Yeah. 2009.Track 2:[52:09] They really started leaning back towards their Acton Baby album because its visuals kind of mirrored what they were doing. And they did this trippy encore with this suit where he had like basically laser pens pointing out of every which direction. Pretty much. It seemed like little mirrors that refracted light to make it look like lasers or something. Something like that. Were they actual lasers? No, they were actually lasers. As he moved, they kept on. Like a laser suit, basically. Yeah. And this microphone that's like an old-fashioned boxing announcer microphone that descends from the ceiling. And it's like a steering wheel that also has red LEDs in it. And he swings on it and he sings into it. And this is giving you a glimpse into this is what this band does in a bigger room. So the fact that they could bring that, they could bring the stadium show to SNL is pretty damn impressive. Yeah, it was really cool. And it seemed like the production compared to their first two SNL appearances, it seems like it was a bit more. There were screens behind them, a little bit more lighting, I think. This is where SNL is starting to lean into that too, where they're getting people away from the train station and they're starting to let them play a little bit more. Yeah, yeah. And it's very evident right here. And the only thing I'll say about Ultraviolet on the negative side is I wish we got the entire thing. Yeah, no kidding.Track 2:[53:28] Right? Yeah. I mean, of course, Time, they're doing a television show, but they had to cut them off. Like, the credits were rolling and they're still doing the song. So I wish we got the whole thing. But still a cool moment. You got to see some of the visuals from that tour in 2009. in nine.Track 2:[53:44] Definitely a long time, Ryan, before they come back. It's a little over eight years before they come back. The Irish took over that day. Saoirse Ronan hosted their fellow country person. I can only assume Notre Dame won that day as well. It was a full Irish takeover. And the Celtics. And the Celtics. Yeah, exactly.Track 2:[54:05] So they had released Songs of Experience the day prior.Track 2:[54:10] Was that the album that ended up on everyone's iPhone? phone no that would be songs of innocence oh okay which basically torpedoed songs of experience by the time by the time they came back and this time they came back actually pretty quick they came back just a few years later uh one year later actually with songs of experience people were like no i'm out forget it you put your music onto my device i'm done it's so funny like yeah i don't know like you could have i think these people felt violated electronically but you could have just not listened to it or you could have just well there's that i mean the really the really wild thing is apple was the.Track 2:[54:43] One who did it but you two never wanted to get out there and say we did not do this apple did this if you want to yell at anybody yell at them and by the time they finally brought that up the ship had long since left the dock like they didn't bring that up until years later and that kind of tells you something where they're like you know if people want to be mad at us we'd rather them be mad at us we're not gonna you know get into a pissing match with a corporation yeah um the timing of this episode is interesting because this is this is around the time that uh the president of the united states is banning people from whole countries from coming to the america um they start with this song called american soul that has this really powerful intro um you know like blessed are the liars blessed are the peacemakers blessed art you know and that's Kendrick Lamar that is Kendrick Lamar and um.Track 2:[55:43] Again, you two knowing where they are, when they are, they know well enough that one of the biggest voices in the world right now is not them, is Kendrick Lamar. So they put him front and center on this track to the point where they actually let him take the track. He has a song on his damn record that takes a snippet of American Soul and drops it into the middle completely without context. Context yeah they then use it as a full song a year later um so it was kind of wild to see that and and beautiful that the first voice we hear when they're back here is kendrick lamar not bono yeah cool visuals too yeah beautiful visuals in the background um it's it's um you know it's again it's really four on the floor kind of music really driving just really energetic kind of again Again, back to what they were doing in that 2000 performance. At this point, they're just straight out of cares. They're just happy to be there. They don't care about staying on the mountaintop. They're there to champion the people that folks like the president of the United States at the time would say is worthless. And they're saying, no, you are not worthless. You are what makes this country great. You are what makes the rest of the world great.Track 2:[57:04] And, you know, we see you. I love the message. and the performance was good nothing too like chill inducing but i love the message love enjoy the performance.Track 2:[57:50] I like the second song to me. Get out of your own way. Yeah, no, it feels like a throwback in a good way to me, like a like a recent U2 song that kind of feels like somewhat of a throwback. I kind of like the melody. So I kind of dig this song. I definitely dig the song. And I do get a laugh at a band like U2 singing a song called Get Out of Your Own Way, because it's it's like, are you listening to your own words? Well, he's you know, I mean, he wrote it. You know who he wrote it for? before that one he did yeah yeah um but no you're right i mean the irony's not lost yes there for sure um the songs are flipped this is the interesting thing is get out of your on the record get out of your own way lead straight into american soul with that blessed are the bullies blessed are the liars um segue that that kendrick does so it's kind of wild that they flip them um i watching them in prep for this show i was actually thinking it would have been cool if If somehow or another they had to convince Destinel to let them play them back to back. Yeah. I don't think that's ever been done.Track 2:[58:51] But that would have been a cool experience. They're not Taylor Swift. No. Doing a 10 minute. No. But I mean, they're doing Moment of Surrender for seven minutes. Sure. Right. You know, I think they're going to be able to talk Lauren into doing it. Yeah. I found that interesting too. Like rechecking the track listing and stuff. I'm like, that was my first thought. I'm like, oh, if they could have somehow. how yeah you hear kendrick's voice at the end of get out of your own way into american soul so you're absolutely right but get out of your own ways one of those like it soars it's kind of light it's just yeah it's a it's a pretty song that's like it's it's a lot of what i love about about you too it's probably my favorite one of my favorite songs like that they've put out like the past 10 years.Track 2:[1:00:06] Those songs are underrated. There's a lot of really beautiful stuff on there. It's just at this point, a lot of people have kind of moved on. Yeah. So so the you know, the thesis at the beginning, the what we pointed out was took them 20 years from boy to their first appearance. But I think they nailed it. I think I nailed it as SNL. I mean, regardless of we didn't get any Joshua Tree songs ever on SNL. We didn't get stuff like Desire that might have been fun, but we got some damn good performances, Ryan. Which is, I mean, it's interesting because a lot of times when they bring in legacy bands, especially when they bring in legacy bands late in their career, that second song at 1245 will be an older one that people recognize, right? Like it's, let's play the new song and then let's play the encore number. They never really did that. that they kept they kept some of those songs till 1am uh when they were let but they're like no our new material holds up it's good music on its own in and of itself let's just play the new stuff and and for my money it worked even though like even as i say that the the no line episode is weird.Track 2:[1:01:16] Lyrically it's still great music and then they end it by going back to their older stuff that fits with the new music. So, you know, points for the ballsiness of saying, we are just gonna stick to the new stuff because we believe the new stuff is good. And for the most part it is. Yeah, I'm glad like a lot of fans were maybe exposed to their new stuff. Like they might've just, And like, oh, U2, I haven't really listened to U2 since like the mid 90s. And then they get this new stuff and hopefully it motivated some people to go check it out. Yeah, yeah. So do you think how much like should it factor in that they weren't on the show at arguably their peak? When it comes to like how people remember them and their SNL musical guest legacy, like should that factor in? Like, where do you stand on that? I would say that it doesn't matter as much as it might for other bands, because when they came when they did finally show up in 2000 and 2004.Track 2:[1:02:14] They were still at a peak. Peak those two records in the early part of this century they were huge and when you look back and like i say this now as a fan i say that their music is not as relevant as it used to be but when i say that it used to be i'm talking like 20 years ago so when they did show up they showed up at a peak they this is a band that's had a few peaks over the course of its career and they showed up for one of them so if we've got four spots and two of their spots they are the biggest band in the world i think that negates the fact that they took a 20-year wander before they got around to it yeah it's a good point and as far as because we've we've talked about this i mean we both champion dave grohl i i've taken it as a personal mission this season to try to get dave grohl into the snl hall of fame i'm still stumping for prince man still stumping for prince i mean Yeah, no, Dave, we did David Bowie. It's hard for musical guests to get into the hall, for sure. But why should voters really strongly consider you two for the hall? Maybe as part of the show's musical legacy, knowing all that. I'm glad you asked. There are only a small handful of bands that have had a three-song night on SNL.Track 2:[1:03:35] No other band has had it more than once. And this band got it two times. So that to me, it's like, it's like throwing a 20 strikeout game and there's one pitcher who's done it twice. So that's the kind of thing it's, it's, it's a special number in the legacy of the show. And not only have they hit the special number, but they did it two times.Track 3:[1:04:16] So there's that you know i hadn't really considered ryan's final argument there that like a 20 strikeout game they in this case you too did it twice they performed three songs twice and one of the instances that they performed we're going to listen to right now it's from the 2004 episode hosted by luke wilson the band got invited to perform a third song after the good nights and they chose I will follow. So let's give that a listen right now.Track 3:[1:08:58] Electric. That performance was definitely whole worthy when you factor in the context. And that's important. The context is very important. The musical guest takes up about 10 minutes of a 90 minute show. So I understand that they are not quite as, you know, important per se in your head as cast members and potentially writers and even hosts, but musical guests are people too.Track 3:[1:09:32] So there's that. Keep that in mind. We've got Dave Grohl still on the ballot. He should be in. I, I'm curious if the news that just broke this week will factor into his vote this year or, or not. There is not a, um, a clause in the SNL hall of fame bylaws that indicate, uh, somebody needs to, um, behave in order to go into the hall. but I digress. Listen, next week we have a great show, but before we head into that, I really want to thank Ryan McNeil for joining us again. Visit thematinee.ca for more of his work. Thomas, once again, just a bang up job. Matt Ardill in the trivia corner, just phenomenal. And then of course, this Thursday you have Joe and Shari that are going to, I don't know, No, probably continue my musical guest rant.Track 3:[1:10:38] So there's that. That's what I've got for you this week. Join us next week where we nominate Charles Barkley. We're joined by SNN super stat guy, Mike Murray. So that should be a real good one. Give us a listen. Send us an email at the SNL HOF at gmail.com. 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A black man was just run out of town today!!!!!!! What in the hell is the matter with SELF TITLED, 'Republican' unmen?!!!!!!!

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In den aktuellen 90er Trend passt kaum eine Band aus den tatsächlichen 90ern so gut rein wie The Smashing Pumpkins. Die Songs! Der Look! Der Sound! Grunge gaben sie das Verträumte, Shoegaze die Wut, Alternative den Pop – und die Opulenz: „Disarm“ ist wohl die einzige Grunge-Hymne mit Kirchenglocken. „1979“ setzt dagegen auf Understatement und Drumcomputer, beides passt auch gut in die heutige Zeit. Der Song transportiert das Gefühl des Heranwachsens, egal, ob Du 1979 ein Teenager warst, Du 1979 geboren wurdest oder Deine Eltern 1979 geboren wurden. Die Smashing Pumpkins waren in ihrer Hochphase vier Außenseiter, die Musik für viele andere Außenseiter gemacht haben. Und dabei divers: Ein großer Nerd mit ungewöhnlicher Stimme, ein introvertierter japanisch-stämmiger Gitarrist mit Country-Touch, eine abgespacete Punk-Bassistin mit durchsichtigen Klamotten und ein darker Typ mit Tattoos und Urgewalt an den Drums. Man muss mit Gast-Stereo.Typ Achim Launert aber natürlich auch darüber sprechen, dass nach der Reunion 2006 in zunächst wechselnder Besetzung nicht mehr viele gute Songs dazukamen. Pumpkins-Chef Billy Corgan mag das anders sehen, wie er selbstbewusst, eloquent und auch sehr sympathisch in zwei Begegnungen mit Marc Mühlenbrock erzählt hat, genauso aber von frühen Heldentaten seiner Band. Die Interviews bilden nun die Grundlage für Episode #093Smashing Pumpkins. Hört gern rein, „Today“ oder „Tonight, Tonight“.

Rick James may have been born into a life of crime, but he was determined to make his way in life through music. He intimidated George Clinton, inspired Prince, and more than likely saved Jim Morrison's life. Rick James was rock ‘n roll's Zelig. He was also sex-crazed, dangerous, and heavily addicted to crack cocaine. These three traits led to two separate arrests for the kidnapping and torture of two different women. Listen to this episode of Disgraceland to hear the tale of the one and only Superfreak, Rick James. To see the full list of contributors, see the show notes at www.disgracelandpod.com. Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - GET THE NEWSLETTER Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: Instagram YouTube X (formerly Twitter)  Facebook Fan Group TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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To say we're fired up for our guest on today's episode is an UNDERSTATEMENT. Best known for her work as a musician and comedian, Farideh writes and performs comedic songs about motherhood and the mental load we all carry.  From her viral hit “You're Such a Good Dad” to songs like “Make a List” her work is SO relatable. We'll be covering double standards for Moms and Dads in parenting, societal pressures and expectations that are definitely not helping our stress, and the expectation that Mom is a living and breathing calendar keeper for the entire family. For any Mom who has found herself rolling her eyes when a Dad gets a big pat on the back for taking time out of his schedule to “watch” his children, this one's for you! Resources We Shared: Follow Farideh on Instagram! Learn all about Farideh and her music Join our newsletter! Get connected to No Guilt Mom and get our Home Responsibility Calculator absolutely FREE, so you can make a plan to delegate the work. Visit No Guilt Mom Rate & Review the No Guilt Mom Podcast on Apple here. We'd love to hear your thoughts on the podcast! Listen on Spotify? You can rate us there too! Check out our favorite deals from our sponsors here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Another week, another "Dave unhinged" as Diamond David Lee Roth one continues to burn all bridges left (we need more analogies!), this time with Dave's recent (mercifully short) stories on the Roth Show, about a Van Halen accountant getting thrown out a Jones Beach VH show and then, supposedly why the last Van Halen studio album, A Different Kind of Truth, isn't on the streaming services. Darren takes those stories apart, Steve waxes confusingly on what he hell is the point to all the "truth" and has always thought Dave ignored Wolfie on stage. All that, and more...

#127 Eine neue Klasse mit Domagoj Dukec, Head of BMW DesignIn einer Welt, in der Fortschritt und Nachhaltigkeit Hand in Hand gehen, erhebt sich die Vision Neue Klasse wie ein Phönix aus der Asche traditioneller Automobilkonzepte. Domagoj Dukec, der visionäre Kopf hinter BMWs neuestem Design, präsentiert dieses Meisterwerk als Inbegriff von Elektrifizierung, Digitalisierung und umweltbewusster Verantwortung. Ein Blick auf diesen futuristischen Traum auf vier Rädern offenbart mehr als nur ein Fahrzeug - es ist eine Verkörperung von BMWs Pioniergeist.Wenn man sich der Faszination BMW nähert, kann man kaum umhin, den legendären Kühlergrill zu bestaunen. Die Vision Neue Klasse bleibt dieser Tradition treu, verbindet jedoch Altbekanntes mit einem Hauch von Morgen. Der Grill verschmilzt mit den Scheinwerfern zu einem harmonischen Gesamtbild, das sowohl Raffinesse als auch Understatement ausstrahlt. Dieses Design, das an die Seele von BMW rührt, bleibt unverwechselbar und dennoch erfrischend neu.Auch das Heck des Wagens spricht eine klare Sprache der Eleganz und Funktionalität. Mit nur zwei Leuchtelementen und einem aerodynamischen Diffusor, der anmutig in die Silhouette des Fahrzeugs eingebettet ist, setzt BMW ein Statement gegen Überflüssigkeit. Selbst das BMW-Logo, kunstvoll in die Aluminiumkarosserie eingraviert, unterstreicht das Engagement für Umweltschutz.Die Seitenansicht des Vision Neue Klasse verspricht trotz seiner Kompaktheit einen geräumigen Innenraum. Dukec hebt die niedrige Gürtellinie hervor, ein nostalgischer Hauch vergangener BMW-Modelle. Eine durchgehende Karosserielinie erstreckt sich entlang des Fahrzeugs, gekrönt von dem ikonischen Hofmeister-Knick.Doch was wäre ein BMW ohne seine markanten Räder? Die Vision Neue Klasse präsentiert Räder, die nicht nur durch ihr BBS-inspiriertes Design bestechen, sondern auch durch ihre aerodynamische Effizienz.Die Kombination aus scharfen Linien und weichen Elementen verleiht der Neuen Klasse ein unverwechselbares Aussehen, das Dukec als zeitlos erhofft. "Ikonisch, cool, lebendig" – so beschreibt er die Designphilosophie, die BMWs neues Meisterwerk prägt.BMW verkündet voller Stolz, dass die Neue Klasse die Marke für immer verändern wird. Aber ist diese Vision tatsächlich eine Zäsur oder eher eine Rückbesinnung auf BMWs legendäre Grundwerte? Die Zukunft wird zeigen, ob die Neue Klasse nicht nur in der Form, sondern auch im Fahrerlebnis revolutionär sein wird. Dukec bleibt optimistisch und lächelt bei der Frage nach der Realitätsnähe des Konzepts für das Jahr 2025. "Sehr realistisch", sagt er mit einem Lächeln, das sowohl Vertrauen als auch Vorfreude ausdrückt. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Randall Degges, Head of Developer Relations & Community at Snyk, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss Snyk's innovative AI strategy and why developers don't need to be afraid of security. Randall explains the difference between Large Language Models and Symbolic AI, and how combining those two approaches creates more accurate security tooling. Corey and Randall also discuss the FUD phenomenon to selling security tools, and Randall expands on why Snyk doesn't take that approach. Randall also shares some background on how he went from being a happy Snyk user to a full-time Snyk employee. About RandallRandall runs Developer Relations & Community at Snyk, where he works on security research, development, and education. In his spare time, Randall writes articles and gives talks advocating for security best practices. Randall also builds and contributes to various open-source security tools.Randall's realms of expertise include Python, JavaScript, and Go development, web security, cryptography, and infrastructure security. Randall has been writing software for over 20 years and has built a number of popular API services and open-source tools.Links Referenced: Snyk: https://snyk.io/ Snyk blog: https://snyk.io/blog/ TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud, I'm Corey Quinn, and this featured guest episode is brought to us by our friends at Snyk. Also brought to us by our friends at Snyk is one of our friends at Snyk, specifically Randall Degges, their Head of Developer Relations and Community. Randall, thank you for joining me.Randall: Hey, what's up, Corey? Yeah, thanks for having me on the show, man. Looking forward to talking about some fun security stuff today.Corey: It's been a while since I got to really talk about a security-centric thing on this show, at least in order of recordings. I don't know if the one right before this is a security thing; things happen on the back-end that I'm blissfully unaware of. But it seems the theme lately has been a lot around generative AI, so I'm going to start off by basically putting you in the hot seat. Because when you pull up a company's website these days, the odds are terrific that they're going to have completely repositioned absolutely everything that they do in the context of generative AI. It's like, “We're a generative AI company.” It's like, “That's great.” Historically, I have been a paying customer of Snyk so that it does security stuff, so if you're now a generative AI company, who do I use for the security platform thing that I was depending upon? You have not done that. First, good work. Secondly, why haven't you done that?Randall: Great question. Also, you said a moment ago that LLMs are very interesting, or there's a lot of hype around it. Understatement of the last year, for sure [laugh].Corey: Oh, my God, it has gotten brutal.Randall: I don't know how many billions of dollars have been dumped into LLM in the last 12 months, but I'm sure it's a very high number.Corey: I have a sneaking suspicion that the largest models cost at least a billion each train, just based upon—at least retail price—based upon the simple economics of how long it takes to do these things, how expensive that particular flavor of compute is. And the technology is his magic. It is magic in a box and I see that, but finding ways that it applies in different ways is taking some time. But that's not stopping the hype beasts. A lot of the same terrible people who were relentlessly pushing crypto have now pivoted to relentlessly pushing generative AI, presumably because they're working through Nvidia's street team, or their referral program, or whatever it is. Doesn't matter what the rest of us do, as long as we're burning GPU cycles on it. And I want to distance myself from that exciting level of boosterism. But it's also magic.Randall: Yeah [laugh]. Well, let's just talk about AI insecurity for a moment and answer your previous question. So, what's happening in space, what's the deal, what is all the hype going to, and what is Snyk doing around there? So, quite frankly—and I'm sure a lot of people on your show say the same thing—but Snyk isn't new into, like, the AI space. It's been a fundamental part of our platform for many years now.So, for those of you listening who have no idea what the heck Snyk is, and you're like, “Why are we talking about this,” Snyk is essentially a developer security company, and the core of what we do is two things. The first thing is we help scan your code, your dependencies, your containers, all the different parts of your application, and detect vulnerabilities. That's the first part. The second thing we do is we help fix those vulnerabilities. So, detection and remediation. Those are the two components of any good security tool or security company.And in our particular case, we're very focused on developers because our whole product is really based on your application and your application security, not infrastructure and other things like this. So, with that being said, what are we doing at a high level with LLMs? Well, if you think about AI as, like, a broad spectrum, you have a lot of different technologies behind the scenes that people refer to as AI. You have lots of these large language models, which are generating text based on inputs. You also have symbolic AI, which has been around for a very long time and which is very domain specific. It's like creating specific rules and helping do pattern detection amongst things.And those two different types of applied AI, let's say—we have large language models and symbolic AI—are the two main things that have been happening in industry for the last, you know, tens of years, really, with LLM as being the new kid on the block. So, when we're talking about security, what's important to know about just those two underlying technologies? Well, the first thing is that large language models, as I'm sure everyone listening to this knows, are really good at predicting things based on a big training set of data. That's why companies like OpenAI and their ChatGPT tool have become so popular because they've gone out and crawled vast portions of the internet, downloaded tons of data, classified it, and then trained their models on top of this data so that they can help predict the things that people are putting into chat. And that's why they're so interesting, and powerful, and there's all these cool use cases popping up with them.However, the downside of LLMs is because they're just using a bunch of training data behind the scenes, there's a ton of room for things to be wrong. Training datasets aren't perfect, they're coming from a ton of places, and even if they weren't perfect, there's still the likelihood that things that are going to be generating output based on a statistical model isn't going to be accurate, which is the whole concept of hallucinations.Corey: Right. I wound up remarking on the livestream for GitHub Universe a week or two ago that the S in AI stood for security. One of the problems I've seen with it is that it can generate a very plausible looking IAM policy if you ask it to, but it doesn't actually do what you think it would if you go ahead and actually use it. I think that it's still squarely in the realm of, it's great at creativity, it's great at surface level knowledge, but for anything important, you really want someone who knows what they're doing to take a look at it and say, “Slow your roll there, Hasty Pudding.”Randall: A hundred percent. And when we're talking about LLMs, I mean, you're right. Security isn't really what they're designed to do, first of all [laugh]. Like, they're designed to predict things based on statistics, which is not a security concept. But secondly, another important thing to note is, when you're talking about using LLMs in general, there's so many tricks and techniques and things you can do to improve accuracy and improve things, like for example, having a ton of [contexts 00:06:35] or doing Few-Shot Learning Techniques where you prompt it and give it examples of questions and answers that you're looking for can give you a slight competitive edge there in terms of reducing hallucinations and false information.But fundamentally, LLMs will always have a problem with hallucinations and getting things wrong. So, that brings us to what we mentioned before: symbolic AI and what the differences are there. Well, symbolic AI is a completely different approach. You're not taking huge training sets and using machine learning to build statistical models. It's very different. You're creating rules, and you're parsing very specific domain information to generate things that are highly accurate, although those models will fail when applied to general-purpose things, unlike large language models.So, what does that mean? You have these two different types of AI that people are using. You have symbolic AI, which is very specific and requires a lot of expertise to create, then you have LLMs, which take a lot of experience to create as well, but are very broad and general purpose and have a capability to be wrong. Snyk's approach is, we take both of those concepts, and we use them together to get the best of both worlds. And we can talk a little bit about that, but I think fundamentally, one of the things that separates Snyk from a lot of other companies in the space is we're just trying to do whatever the best technical solution is to solve the problem, and I think we found that with our hybrid approach.Corey: I think that there is a reasonable distrust of AI when it comes to security. I mean, I wound up recently using it to build what has been announced by the time this thing airs, which is my re:Invent photo scavenger hunt app. I know nothing about front-end, so that's okay, I've got a robot in my pocket. It's great at doing the development of the initial thing, and then you have issues, and you want to add functionality, and it feels like by the time I was done with my first draft, that ten different engineers had all collaborated on this thing without ever speaking to one another. There was no consistent idiomatic style, it used a variety, a hodgepodge of different lists and the rest, and it became a bit of a Frankenstein's monster.That can kind of work if we're talking about a web app that doesn't have any sensitive data in it, but holy crap, the idea of applying that to, “Yeah, that's how we built our bank's security policy,” is one of those, “Let me know who said that, so they can not have their job anymore,” territory when the CSO starts [hunting 00:08:55].Randall: You're right. It's a very tenuous situation to be in from a security perspective. The way I like to think about it—because I've been a developer for a long time and a security professional—and I as much as anyone out there love to jump on the hype train for things and do whatever I can to be lazy and just get work done quicker. And so, I use ChatGPT, I use GitHub Copilot, I use all sorts of LLM-based tools to help me write software. And similarly to the problems when developers are not using LLM to help them write code, security is always a concern.Like, it doesn't matter if you have a developer writing every line of code themselves or if they're getting help from Copilot or ChatGPT. Fundamentally, the problem with security and the reason why it's such an annoying part of the developer experience, in all honesty, is that security is really difficult. You can take someone who's an amazing engineer, who has 30 years of experience, like, you can take John Carmack, I'm sure, one of the most legendary developers to ever walk the Earth, you could sit over his shoulder and watch him write software, right, I can almost guarantee you that he's going to have some sort of security problem in his code, even with all the knowledge he has in his head. And part of the reason that's the case is because modern security is way complicated. Like if you're building a web app, you have front-end stuff you need to protect, you have back-end stuff you need to protect, there's databases and infrastructure and communication layers between the infrastructure and the services. It's just too complicated for one person to fully grasp.And so, what do you do? Well, you basically need some sort of assistance from automation. You have to have some sort of tooling that can take a look at your code that you're writing and say, “Hey Randall, on line 39, when you were writing this function that's taking user data and doing something with it, you forgot to sanitize the user data.” Now, that's a simple example, but let's talk about a more complex example. Maybe you're building some authentication software, and you're taking users' passwords, and you're hashing them using a common hashing algorithm.And maybe the tooling is able to detect way using the bcrypt password hashing algorithm with a work factor of ten to create this password hash, but guess what, we're in 2023 and a work factor of ten is something that older commodity CPUs can now factor at a reasonable rate, and so you need to bump that up to 13 or 14. These are the types of things where you need help over time. It's not something that anyone can reasonably assume they can just deal with in their head. The way I like to think about it is, as a developer, regardless of how you're building code, you need some sort of security checks on there to just help you be productive, in all honesty. Like, if you're not doing that, you're just asking for problems.Corey: Oh, yeah. On some level, even the idea of it's just going to be very computationally expensive to wind up figuring out what that password hash is, well great, but one of the things that we've been aware of for a while is that given the rise of botnets and compromised computers, the attackers have what amounts to infinite computing capacity, give or take. So, if they want in, on some level, badly enough, they're going to find a way to get in there. When you say that every developer is going to sit down and write insecure code, you're right. And a big part of that is because, as imagined today, security is an incredibly high friction process, and it's not helped, frankly, by tools that don't have nuance or understanding.If I want to do a crap ton of busy work that doesn't feel like it moves the needle forward at all, I'll go around to resolving the hundreds upon hundreds of Dependabot alerts I have for a lot of my internal services that write my weekly newsletter. Because some dependency three deep winds up having a failure mode when it gets untrusted input of the following type, it can cause resource exhaustion. It runs in a Lambda function, so I don't care about the resources, and two, I'm not here providing the stuff that I write, which is the input with an idea toward exploiting stuff. So, it's busy work, things I don't need to be aware of. But more to the point, stuff like that has the high propensity to mask things I actually do care about. Getting the signal from noise from your misconfigured, ill-conceived alerting system is just awful. Like, a bad thing is there are no security things for you to work on, but a worse one is, “Here are 70,000 security things for you to work on.” How do you triage? How do you think about it?Randall: A hundred percent. I mean, that's actually the most difficult thing, I would say, that security teams have to deal with in the real world. It's not having a tool to help detect issues or trying to get people to fix them. The real issue is, there's always security problems, like you said, right? Like, if you take a look and just scan any codebase out there, any reasonably-sized codebase, you're going to find a ridiculous amount of issues.Some of those issues will be actual issues, like, you're not doing something in code hygiene that you need to do to protect stuff. A lot of those issues are meaningless things, like you said. You have a transitive dependency that some direct dependency is referring to, and maybe in some function call, there's an issue there, and it's alerting you on it even though you don't even use this function call. You're not even touching this class, or this method, or whatever it is. And it wastes a lot of time.And that's why the Holy Grail in the security industry in all honesty is prioritization and insights. At Snyk, we sort of pioneered this concept of ASPM, which stands for Application Security Posture Management. And fundamentally what that means is when you're a security team, and you're scanning code and finding all these issues, how do you prioritize them? Well, there's a couple of approaches. One approach is to use static analysis to try to figure out if these issues that are being detected are reachable, right? Like, can they be achieved in some way, but that's really hard to do statically and there's so many variables that go into it that no one really has foolproof solutions there.The second thing you can do is you can combine insights and heuristics from a lot of different places. So, you can take a look at static code analysis results, and you can combine them with agents running live that are observing your application, and then you can try to determine what stuff is actually reachable given this real world heuristic, and you know, real time information and mapping it up with static code analysis results. And that's really the holy grail of figuring things out. We have an ASPM product—or maybe it's a feature, an offering, if you will, but it's something that Snyk provides, which gives security admins a lot more insight into that type of operation at their business. But you're totally right, Corey, it's a really difficult problem to solve, and it burns a lot of goodwill in the security community and in the industry because people spend a lot of time getting false alerts, going through stuff, and just wasting millions of hours a year, I'm sure.Corey: That's part of the challenge, too, is that it feels like there are two classes of problems in the world, at least when it comes to business. And I found this by being on the wrong side of it, on some level. Here on the wrong side, it's things like caring about cost optimization, it's caring about security, it's remembering to buy fire insurance for your building. You can wind up doing all of those things—and you should be doing them, but you can over-index on them to the point where you run out of money and your business dies. The proactive side of that fence is getting features to market sooner, increasing market share, growing revenue, et cetera, and that's the stuff that people are always going to prioritize over the back burner stuff. So, striking a balance between that is always going to be a bit of a challenge, and where people land on that is going to be tricky.Randall: So, I think this is a really good bridge. You're totally right. It's expensive to waste people's time, basically, is what you're saying, right? You don't want to waste people's time, you want to give them actionable alerts that they can actually fix, or hopefully you fix it for them if you can, right? So, I'm going to lay something out, which is, in our opinion, is the Snyk way, if you will, that you should be approaching these developer security issues.So, let's take a look at two different approaches. The first approach is going to be using an LLM, like, let's say, just ChatGPT. We'll call them out because everyone knows ChatGPT. The first approach we're going to take is—Corey: Although I do insist on pronouncing it Chat-Gippity. But please, continue.Randall: [laugh]. Chat-Gippity. I love that. I haven't heard that before. Chat-Gippity. Sounds so much more fun, you know?Corey: It sounds more personable. Yeah.Randall: Yeah. So, you're talking to Chat-Gippity—thank you—and you paste in a file from your codebase, and you say, “Hey, Chat-Gippity. Here's a file from my codebase. Please help me identify security issues in here,” and you get back a long list of recommendations.Corey: Well, it does more than that. Let me just interject there because one of the things it does that I think very few security engineers have mastered is it does it politely and constructively, as opposed to having an unstated tone of, “You dumbass,” which I beli—I've [unintelligible 00:17:24] with prompts on this. You can get it to have a condescending, passive-aggressive tone, but you have to go out of your way to do it, as opposed to it being the default. Please continue.Randall: Great point. Also, Daniel from Unsupervised Learning, by the way, has a really good post where he shows you setting up Chat-Gippity to mimic Scarlett Johansson from the movie Her on your phone so you can talk to it. Absolutely beautiful. And you get these really fun, very nice responses back and forth around your code analysis. So, shout out there.But going back to the point. So, if you get these responses back from Chat-Gippity, and it's like, “Hey look, here's all the security issues,” a lot of those things will be false alerts, and there's been a lot of public security research done on these analysis tools just give you information. A lot of those things will be false alerts, some things will be things that maybe they're a real problem, but cannot be fixed due to transitive dependencies, or whatever the issues are, but there's a lot of things you need to do there. Now, let's take it up one notch, let's say instead of using Chat-Gippity directly, you're using GitHub Copilot. Now, this is a much better situation for working with code because now what Microsoft is doing is let's say you're running Copilot inside of VS Code. It's able to analyze all the files in your codebase, and it's able to use that additional context to help provide you with better information.So, you can talk to GitHub Copilot and say, “Hey, I'd really like to know what security issues are in this file,” and it's going to give you maybe a little bit better answers than ChatGPT directly because it has more context about the other parts of your codebase and can give you slightly better answers. However, because these things are LLMs, you're still going to run into issues with accuracy, and hallucinations, and all sorts of other problems. So, what is the better approach? And I think that's fundamentally what people want to know. Like, what is a good approach here?And on the scanning side, the right approach in my mind is using something very domain specific. Now, what we do at Snyk is we have a symbolic AI scanning engine. So, we take customers' code, and we take an entire codebase so you have access to all the files and dependencies and things like this, and you take a look at these things. And we have a security analyst team that analyzes real-world security issues and fixes that have been validated. So, we do this by pulling lots of open-source projects as well as other security information that we originally produced, and we define very specific rules so that we can take a look at software, and we can take a look at these codebases with a very high degree of certainty.And we can give you a very actionable list of security issues that you need to address, and not only that, we can show you how is going to be the best way to address them. So, with that being said, I think the second side to that is okay, if that's a better approach on the scanning side, maybe you shouldn't be using LLMs for finding issues; maybe you should be using them for fixing security issues, which makes a lot of sense. So, let's say you do it the Snyk way, and you use symbolic AI engines and you sort of find these issues. Maybe you can just take that information then, in combination with your codebase, and fire off a request to an LLM and say, “Hey Chat-Gippity, please take this codebase, and take this security information that we know is accurate, and fix this code for me.” So, now you're going one step further.Corey: One challenge that I've seen, especially as I've been building weird software projects with the help of magic robots from the future, is that a lot of components, like in React for example, get broken out into their own file. And pasting a file in is all well and good, but very often, it needs insight into the rest of the codebase. At GitHub Universe, something that they announced was Copilot Enterprise, which trains Copilot on the intricacies of your internal structures around shared libraries, all of your code, et cetera. And in some of the companies I'm familiar with, I really believe that's giving a very expensive, smart robot a form of brain damage, but that's neither here nor there. But there's an idea of seeing the interplay between different components that individual analysis on a per-file basis will miss, feels to me like something that needs a more holistic view. Am I wrong on that? Am I oversimplifying?Randall: You're right. There's two things we need to address. First of all, let's say you have the entire application context—so all the files, right—and then you ask an LLM to create a fix for you. This is something we do at Snyk. We actually use LLMs for this purpose. So, we take this information we ask the LLM, “Hey, please rewrite this section of code that we know has an issue given this security information to remove this problem.” The problem then becomes okay, well, how do you know this fix is accurate and is not going to break people's stuff?And that's where symbolic AI becomes useful again. Because again, what is the use case for symbolic AI? It's taking very specific domains of things that you've created very specific rule sets for and using them to validate things or to pass arbitrary checks and things like that. And it's a perfect use case for this. So, what we actually do with our auto-fix product, so if you're using VS Code and you have Copilot, right, and Copilot's spitting out software, as long as you have Snyk in the IDE, too, we're actually taking a look at those lines of code Copilot just inserted, and a lot of the time, we are helping you rewrite that code to be secured using our LLM stuff, but then as soon as we get that fixed created, we actually run it through our symbolic engine, and if we're saying no, it's actually not fixed, then we go back to the LLM, we re-prompt it over and over again until we get a working solution.And that's essentially how we create a much more sophisticated iteration, if you will, of using AI to really help improve code quality. But all that being said, you still had a good point, which is maybe if you're using the context from the application, and people aren't doing things properly, how does that impact what LLMs are generating for you? And an interesting thing to note is that our security team internally here, just conducted a really interesting project, and I would be angry at myself if I didn't explain it because I think it's a very cool concept.Corey: Oh, please, I'm a big fan of hearing what people get up to with these things in ways that is real-world stories, not trying to sell me anything, or also not dunking on, look what I saw on the top of Hacker News the other day, which is, “If all you're building is something that talks to Chat-Gippity's API, does some custom prompting, and returns a response, you shouldn't be building it.” I'm like, “Well, I built some things that do exactly that.” But I'm also not trying to raise $6 million in seed money to go and productize it. I'm just hoping someone does it better eventually, but I want to use it today. Please tell me a real world story about something that you've done.Randall: Okay. So, here's what we did. We went out and we found a bunch of GitHub projects, and we tried to analyze them ourselves using a bunch of different tools, including human verification, and basically give it a grade and say, “Okay, this project here has really good security hygiene. Like, there's not a lot of issues in the code, things are written in a nice way, the style and formatting is consistent, the dependencies are up-to-date, et cetera.” Then we take a look at multiple GitHub repos that are the opposite of that, right? Like, maybe projects that hadn't been maintained in a long time, or were written in a completely different style where you have bad hygienic practices, maybe you have hard-coded secrets, maybe you have unsanitized input coming from a user or something, right, but you take all these things.So, we have these known examples of good and bad projects. So, what did we do? Well, we opened them up in VS Code, and we basically got GitHub Copilot and we said, “Okay, what we're going to do is use each of these codebases, and we're going to try to add features into the projects one at a time.” And what we did is we took a look at the suggested output that Copilot was giving us in each of these cases. And the interesting thing is that—and I think this is super important to understand about LLMs, right—but the interesting thing is, if we were adding features to a project that has good security hygiene, the types of code that we're able to get out of LLMs, like, GitHub Copilot was pretty good. There weren't a ton of issues with it. Like, the actual security hygiene was, like, fairly good.However, for projects where there were existing issues, it was the opposite. Like we'd get AI recommendations showing us how to write things insecurely, or potentially write things with hard-coded secrets in it. And this is something that's very reproducible today in, you know, what is it right now, middle of November 2023. Now, is it going to be this case a year from now? I don't necessarily know, but right now, this is still a massive problem, so that really reinforces the idea that not only when you're talking about LLMs is the training set they used to build the model's important, but also the context in which you're using them is incredibly important.It's very easy to mislead LLMs. Another example of this, if you think about the security scanning concept we talked about earlier, imagine you're talking to Chat-Gippity, and you're [pasting 00:25:58] in a Python function, and the Python function is called, “Completely_safe_not_vulnerable_function.” That's the function name. And inside of that function, you're backdooring some software. Well, if you ask Chat-Gippity multiple times and say, “Hey, the temperature is set to 1.0. Is this code safe?”Sometimes you'll get the answer yes because the context within the request that has that thing saying this is not a vulnerable function or whatever you want to call it, that can mislead the LLM output and result in problems, you know? It's just, like, classic prompt injection type issues. But there's a lot of these types of vulnerabilities still hidden in plain sight that impact all of us, and so it's so important to know that you can't just rely on one thing, you have to have multiple layers: something that helps you with things, but also something that is helping you fix things when needed.Corey: I think that's the key that gets missed a lot is the idea of it's not just what's here, what have you put here that shouldn't be; what have you forgotten? There's a different side of it. It's easy to do a static analysis and say, “Oh, you're not sanitizing your input on this particular form.” Great. Okay—well, I say it's easy. I wish more people would do that—but then there's also a step beyond of, what is it that someone who has expertise who's been down this road before would take one look at your codebase and say, “Are you making this particular misconfiguration or common misstep?”Randall: Yeah, it's incredibly important. You know, like I said, security is just one of those things where it's really broad. I've been working in security for a very long time and I make security mistakes all the time myself.Corey: Yeah. Like, in your developer environment right now, you ran this against the production environment and didn't get permissions errors. That is suspicious. Tell me more about your authentication pattern.Randall: Right. I mean, there's just a ton of issues that can cause problems. And it's… yeah, it is what it is, right? Like, software security is something difficult to achieve. If it wasn't difficult, everyone would be doing it. Now, if you want to talk about, like, vision for the future, actually, I think there's some really interesting things with the direction I see things going.Like, a lot of people have been leaning into the whole AI autonomous agents thing over the last year. People started out by taking LLMs and saying, “Okay, I can get it to spit out code, I can get it to spit out this and that.” But then you go one step further and say, “All right, can I get it to write code for me and execute that code?” And OpenAI, to their credit, has done a really good job advancing some of the capabilities here, as well as a lot of open-source frameworks. You have Langchain, and Baby AGI, and AutoGPT, and all these different things that make this more feasible to give AI access to actually do real meaningful things.And I can absolutely imagine a world in the future—maybe it's a couple of years from now—where you have developers writing software, and it could be a real developer, it could be an autonomous agent, whatever it is. And then you also have agents that are taking a look at your software and rewriting it to solve security issues. And I think when people talk about autonomous agents, a lot of the time they're purely focusing on LLMs. I think it's a big mistake. I think one of the most important things you can do is focus on the very niche symbolic AI engines that are going to be needed to guarantee accuracy with these things.And that's why I think the Snyk approach is really cool, you know? We dedicated a huge amount of resources to security analysts building these very in-depth rule sets that are guaranteeing accuracy on results. And I think that's something that the industry is going to shift towards more in the future as LLMs become more popular, which is, “Hey, you have all these great tools, doing all sorts of cool stuff. Now, let's clean it up and make it accurate.” And I think that's where we're headed in the next couple of years.Corey: I really hope you're right. I think it's exciting times, but I also am leery when companies go too far into boosterism where, “Robots are going to do all of these things for us.” Maybe, but even if you're right, you sound psychotic. And that's something that I think gets missed in an awful lot of the marketing that is so breathless with anticipation. I have to congratulate you folks on not getting that draped over your message, once again.My other favorite part of your messaging when you pull up snyk.com—sorry, snyk.io. What is it these days? It's the dot io, isn't it?Randall: Dot io. It's hot.Corey: Dot io, yes.Randall: Still hot, you know?Corey: I feel like I'm turning into a boomer here where, “The internet is dot com.”Randall: [laugh].Corey: Doesn't necessarily work that way. But no, what I love is the part where you have this fear-based marketing of if you wind up not using our product, here are all the terrible things that will happen. And my favorite part about that marketing is it doesn't freaking exist. It is such a refreshing departure from so much of the security industry, where it does the fear, uncertainty, and doubt nonsense stuff that I love that you don't even hint in that direction. My actual favorite thing that is on your page, of course, is at the bottom. If you mouse over the dog in the logo at the bottom of the page, it does the quizzical tilting head thing, and I just think that is spectacular.Randall: So, the Snyk mascot, his name is Pat. He's a Doberman and everyone loves him. But yeah, you're totally right. The FUD thing is a real issue in security. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt, it's the way security companies sell products to people. And I think it's a real shame, you know?I give a lot of tech talks, at programming conferences in particular, around security and cryptography, and one of the things I always start out with when I'm giving a tech talk about any sort of security or cryptography topic is I say, “Okay, how many of you have landed in a Stack Overflow thread where you're talking about a security topic and someone replies and says, ‘oh, a professional should be doing this. You shouldn't be doing it yourself?'” That comes up all the time when you're looking at security topics on the internet. Then I ask people, “How many of you feel like security is this, sort of like, obscure, mystical arts that requires a lot of expertise in math knowledge, and all this stuff?” And a lot of people sort of have that impression.The reality though is security, and to some extent, cryptography, it's just like any other part of computer science. It's something that you can learn. There's best practices. It's not rocket science, you know? Maybe it is if you're developing a brand-new hashing algorithm from scratch, yes, leave that to the professionals. But using these things is something everyone needs to understand well, and there's tons of material out there explaining how to do things right. And you don't need to be afraid of this stuff, right?And so, I think, a big part of the Snyk message is, we just want to help developers just make their code better. And what is one way that you're going to do a better job at work, get more of your code through the PR review process? What is a way you're going to get more features out? A big part of that is just building things right from the start. And so, that's really our focus in our message is, “Hey developers, we want to be, like, a trusted partner to help you build things faster and better.” [laugh].Corey: It's nice to see it, just because there's so much that just doesn't work out the way that we otherwise hope it would. And historically, there's been a tremendous problem of differentiation in the security space. I often remark that at RSA, there's about 12 companies exhibiting. Now sure, there are hundreds of booths, but it's basically the same 12 things. There's, you know, the entire row of firewalls where they use different logos and different marketing words on the slides, but they're all selling fundamentally the same thing. One of things I've always appreciated about Snyk is it has never felt that way.Randall: Well, thanks. Yeah, we appreciate that. I mean, our whole focus is just developer security. What can we do to help developers build things securely?Corey: I mean, you are sponsoring this episode, let's be clear, but also, we are paying customers of you folks, and that is not—those things are not related in any way. What's the line that we like to use that we stole from the RedMonk folks? “You can buy our attention, but not our opinion.” And our opinion of what you folks are up to is then stratospherically high for a long time.Randall: Well, I certainly appreciate that as a Snyk employee who is also a happy user of the service. The way I actually ended up working at Snyk was, I'd been using the product for my open-source projects for years, and I legitimately really liked it and I thought this was cool. And yeah, I eventually ended up working here because there was a position, and you know, a friend reached out to me and stuff. But I am a genuinely happy user and just like the goal and the mission. Like, we want to make developers' lives better, and so it's super important.Corey: I really want to thank you for taking the time to speak with me about all this. If people want to learn more, where's the best place for them to go?Randall: Yeah, thanks for having me. If you want to learn more about AI or just developer security in general, go to snyk.io. That's S-N-Y-K—in case it's not clear—dot io. In particular, I would actually go check out our [Snyk Learn 00:34:16] platform, which is linked to from our main site. We have tons of free security lessons on there, showing you all sorts of really cool things. If you check out our blog, my team and I in particular also do a ton of writing on there about a lot of these bleeding-edge topics, and so if you want to keep up with cool research in the security space like this, just check it out, give it a read. Subscribe to the RSS feed if you want to. It's fun.Corey: And we will put links to that in the [show notes 00:34:39]. Thanks once again for your support, and of course, putting up with my slings and arrows.Randall: And thanks for having me on, and thanks for using Snyk, too. We love you [laugh].Corey: Randall Degges, Head of Developer Relations and Community at Snyk. This featured guest episode has been brought to us by our friends at Snyk, and I'm Corey Quinn. If you've enjoyed this episode, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, whereas if you've hated this episode, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, along with an angry comment that I will get to reading immediately. You can get me to read it even faster if you make sure your username is set to ‘Dependabot.'Corey: If your AWS bill keeps rising and your blood pressure is doing the same, then you need The Duckbill Group. We help companies fix their AWS bill by making it smaller and less horrifying. The Duckbill Group works for you, not AWS. 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Bea and Dee are back together again to talk some mad shit about their favorite show, Sister Wives. Kody continues to make a complete ass of himself, Christine is flirty and thriving, Janelle is over it ALL, Robyn is still playing mind games...annnnnd then there's Meri, all alone in her sad mansion, surrounded by LuLaRoe clothing, and facetiming her BFF Jen. Good Lord, woman! #WorthyUp already and LEAVE Kody's balding, narcissistic ass! Sigh. Maybe we will get to see that in the next season....Are you hungry for more trash?! Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/RealityTVCringeWe want to hear from you! Leave us a message on Speakpipe: https://www.speakpipe.com/RealityTVCringeSubscribe to our YouTube Channel! https://youtube.com/@RealityTVCringeIf you love our podcast, be sure to leave us a 5-star review wherever you are listening!Follow RTC ON IG: www.instagram.com/RealityTVCringe

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The Understatement of the YearSister Wives: Season 18, Episode 6Christine reveals she's hired a matchmaker; Meri makes plans to move her business but worries about how Robyn will take the news; Janelle meets with Kody for the first time since their huge fight and asks if he still wants a plural marriage.SKIMS new Cotton Collection!Nutrafol Save 15% using code FRAUDEarninDrizlyFactor 75 Save using code FRAUDCAST50Join our Facebook GroupVisit our website for merch!Follow Lexi on InstagramFollow Katrina on InstagramFollow the Show on InstagramSUBSCRIBE TO OUR BRAND NEW YOUTUBE CHANNEL!Our Sponsors:* Check out Drizly: https://drizly.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-fraudcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Amye is joined by Amanda to recap Sister Wives S18:EP6 The Understatement of the YearChristine is hiring a matchmaker and wants to taste some of the ice cream flavors, but not all. Meri cleans out a storage shed. Janelle and Kody meet for their “appointment” and pretty much discuss the dissolution of their marriage. Kody's word of the day is “transmute.”To hear the entire episode, join us on Little Miss Recap EXTRA:https://www.patreon.com/littlemissrecaphttps://littlemissrecap.supercast.com/THE SHOW:Get in touch with us:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/littlemissrecapFacebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/littlemissrecapInstagram: @littlemissrecap Voicemail: www.littlemissrecap.comEmail: Info@littlemissrecap.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Christine has Aspyn and Mykelti over to her house for a painting party for Valentine's Day. She announces that she has hired a matchmaker and is ready to start dating. Janelle and Kody meet up for the first time since their big fight and it doesn't go the way Kody expected. A lot is said and Janelle wants to remain separate for now which is a shock for Kody. Meri makes plans to move her clothing business to her B & B in Utah but she hasn't broken the news to Robyn and Kody. Please SUBSCRIBE to the podcast and give us a 5-star rating and review. We are on Instagram and TikTok @psychlegalpop Email: psychlegalpoppodcast@gmail.com

Good Morning Everyone! It's Wednesday, and you've tuned in to another My Morning Devotional Podcast episode!  We're right in the middle of the week, and I'm excited to dive into today's devotional titled "Thankful Is An Understatement." Today, we're celebrating our journey through 843 episodes, and what better way to mark this milestone than by delving into gratitude. As we gear up for the fall season, let's get into the thankful spirit. Join me as we explore Hebrews 12:28-29, and uncover why being thankful is truly an understatement. Our Wedding: https://youtu.be/HfrsWbwsCLI Merch Drop! Get your hands on our new pieces ⁠⁠Prayer Request or Praise Report⁠ ⁠Interested in learning more about theology? Join TheosU⁠  Join The Community: IG: https://www.instagram.com/mymorningdevo/  FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mymorningdevo  Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/mymorningdevo  Alison's Profiles: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alisondelamota⁠@alisondelamota ⁠on YouTube Blog: www.alisonedelamota.com