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You're listening to Burnt Toast! Today, my guest is Tracy Clark-Flory. Tracy is the feminist writer behind the newsletter TCF Emails and the author of Want Me: A Sex Writer's Journey into the Heart of Desire. She's also the cohost of the new podcast Dire Straights where she and Amanda Montei unpack the many toxic aspects of heterosexual relationships and culture. I brought Tracy on the podcast today to talk about my feet, but we get into so much more. We talk about porn, sexual identity, and the male gaze—and, of course, how all of this makes us feel in our bodies.This episode is free but if you value this conversation, please consider supporting our work with a paid subscription. Burnt Toast is 100% reader- and listener-supported. We literally can't do this without you.PS. You can always listen to this pod right here in your email, where you'll also receive full transcripts (edited and condensed for clarity). But please also follow us in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and/or Pocket Casts! And if you enjoy today's conversation, please tap the heart on this post — likes are one of the biggest drivers of traffic from Substack's Notes, so that's a super easy, free way to support the show!Episode 202 TranscriptVirginiaI am so excited. We've been Internet friends for a long time, and it's so nice to finally have a conversation. I'm very jazzed! TracyRight? I feel like we've talked before, but we have not, which is such an odd sensation. We've emailed.VirginiaWe've emailed, we've DM-ed, we've commented on each other's things. But we have not, with our faces and mouths, had a conversation. The Internet is so weird.Well, the Internet being weird is a lot of what we're gonna talk about today. Because where I want to start today is feet.TracyWhy not?VirginiaSo I initially emailed you when I was working on my essay about my Wikifeet experience, because you have written so extensively about porn and the Internet's treatment of women. And when I discovered my Wikifeet, one of my first thoughts was, “I need to talk to Tracy about this.” TracyThat makes me so happy. I want to be the first person that everyone thinks of when they find themselves on Wikifeet.VirginiaI was like, “I don't know how she'll feel…” so I'm glad you take that as a compliment.I don't even know where to start. Even though I wrote a whole essay about this, my brain is still, like, “record scratch moment” on the whole thing. Sojust talk to us a little bit where in your vast reporting on porn did you kind of become aware of fetish sites and what's your read on them? What's going on there?TracyI think I first became aware of Wikifeet in 2008-ish when they launched, and that's when I was a proper, full-time sex writer, on the sex beat, covering every weird niche Internet community. And then in the years since, I've unfortunately had many women colleagues—often feminist writers—who have ended up on the site. So unfortunately, you're not the first person I know who's ended up on there.VirginiaIt's a weird thing that a certain type of woman writer is gonna end up on Wikifeet. Why?TracyThere are no shortage of women who are consensually volunteering photos of their feet online for people to consume in a sexualized way, right? So the fact is that this site is providing a venue for people to do it in a very nonconsensual way, where images are taken from other venues that are not sexualized. They're stolen images, you know? Things that are screenshotted from Instagram stories, that kind of thing—and then put into this sexualized context. Not only that, but put into a sexualized context where there is a community around sexualizing and objectifying and even rating and evaluating body parts.My take is that this violation is part of the point. Because there is having a foot fetish—great, have at it, enjoy. And then there's consuming images that are nonconsensual. So I think that the violation is part of the point. And to the point of feminist writers, women writers online, ending up on it—I don't think it's an accident. Because I think that there is—perhaps for some, maybe not all—some pleasure taken in that aspect of trespass.VirginiaYes. My best friend is a food blogger, and I immediately searched for her because she's way more famous than I am, and she's not on there. And I'm glad, I don't want her non-consensually on there! But I was like, oh, it's interesting that I'm on there, lyz is on there. It is a certain type of woman that men are finding objectionable on the Internet. And putting us on WikiFeet is a retaliation or just a way of—I don't know. It's not a direct attack, because I didn't even know about it for however long my feet have been up there. But it is a way for men to feel like they're in control of us in some way, right?TracyOh, totally. And it's because there is something interesting about taking a body part that is not broadly and generally sexualized, and sexualizing it. There is this feeling of a “gotcha!” in it.There is something, too, about feet—I mean, I think this is part of what plays into foot fetish, often. There is this sense of dirtiness, potentially, but also the sense of often being hidden away. It's secret, it's private, it's delicate, it's tender. Feet are ticklish, there's so much layered in there that I think can make it feel like this place of vulnerability.I've written about upskirting. This was maybe like 15 years ago. But it's these communities where men take upskirt videos and photos of women on the subway or wherever, and then they share them in online forums. And that's very clearly a physical trespass. You're seeing something that was not meant to be seen. So it's quite different. But it's feels like it exists on a spectrum of trespass and violation and taking sexualized enjoyment out of that.VirginiaFrom someone who had no intention of you taking that enjoyment, who's just trying to ride the train to work.TracyTotally. And the foot thing, it just makes me think of all these different ways that women experience their bodies in the world. You can't just be at ease in your body, because someone might think your feet are hot.VirginiaIt's really interesting. I've talked about this on the podcast before: A little bit after I got divorced and I started having, weekends totally to myself in my house, it was the first time I'd been alone in my house in a long time. Obviously, usually my kids were there. My husband used to be there. And I had this strange sensation of being observed, even when I was completely alone in the house.It's just me and the dog. She's asleep. I'm making dinner or watching TV or doing whatever I'm doing. And I couldn't shake the sensation that I was watching myself, still thinking about what I was going to wear. It was so weird, and I realized it actually isn't particularly a comment on my marriage. It's more a comment on women are so trained to always feel observed. It's really hard for us to actually access a space where we're not going to be observed. It was wild.TracyWe adopt that perspective of the watcher, and we are the watched. We experience ourselves in that way, as opposed to being the watcher, the person who sees and consumes the world and experiences the world. It's like we experience ourselves being experienced by someone else—an imagined man often.VirginiaYes, you're always self-objectifying. It doesn't matter whether you're trying to please that gaze, whether you're trying to protect yourself against that gaze. Whatever it is, we're always aware of how we'll be perceived in a way that I don't think cis men ever have to consider. I don't think that's a part of their experience of the world in the same way.TracyAnd how messed up is that tension between trying to please and trying to protect oneself? What an impossible tightrope walk to be constantly doing.VirginiaRight, and to not even know which one you want sometimes. Like, which one you need, which one you want.TracyYeah, going back and forth between those extremes. You're always kind of monitoring and on edge.VirginiaAnd, it did shift. Now when I'm alone in my house, I don't feel like I'm watching myself. Like, it did lessen. But it was this very stark moment of noticing that. And I think the way our work is so online, we are so online, it doesn't help. Because we also have all learned through the performance art of social media to constantly be documenting. And even if you're by yourself, you might post something about it. There's that need to narrate and document and then also objectify your experience.TracyThe sense of, like, if I don't take a photo of it, it doesn't exist. It didn't happen. It's not real. It must be consumed by other people. I mean, when you were talking earlier about that sense of being surveyed, I think that is a very just common experience for women, period. But then I think, for me, growing up with reality TV, the explosion of reality TV, like that added this like sense of a camera on one's life.And then I think, like, if you want to bring porn into it, too—Like, in the bedroom, that sense of the watcher, so you have this sense of being watched by men, but then you have the sense of kind of performing for an audience, because that's so much of what I came up with culturally.VirginiaI mean, the way we often conceive of our sexuality is through performance and how are you being perceived not how are you experiencing it yourself? I mean, you write about that so well, that tension.TracyThat was my whole thing. My sexual coming of age memoir is so much about what it meant to try to move out of that focus on how I'm being perceived by my partner and into a place of what am I experiencing? What do I even want beyond being wanted?VirginiaMan, it's amazing we've all survived and gotten where we are. Another layer to this, that I thought about a lot as I was processing my Wikifeet, was how instantly I felt like I had to laugh it off. I really felt like I couldn't access my true reaction to it. I just immediately sort of went into this Cool Girl, resigned, jaded, like “What do you expect from the Internet?” This is why I wanted to talk to you. Because I was like, oh, this feels very similar to stuff Tracy struggled with and wrote about in her memoir.TracyOh, totally. It makes total sense to me that you would go to that default place. It makes me think of how I, especially early in my career writing online as a feminist blogger, I would print out the very worst, most misogynistic hateful comments and post them on my fridge because I was willing myself to find them funny, to be able to laugh at them and just kind of distance myself from them and to feel untouched by them.I think that Cool Girl stance is a way of putting on protective armor. So I think that makes sense as a woman writing online, but I also think it makes sense in the context of sex. So much of what I did—this performative sexuality, this kind of sense of being down for whatever in my 20s—was, subconsciously, a kind of defensive posture. Because I think I had this feeling that if I'm down for anything, then nothing can be done against my will, you know? And that was the mental gambit that I had to engage in, in order to feel safe enough to explore my sexuality freely. Granted, it wasn't very freely, turns out. But it makes total sense that you would want to default to the laughing at what is really a violation. Because I do think that there's something protective about that. It's like, “No, you're not going to do this to me. You're not going to make me feel a certain way about this.” But that only takes you so far.VirginiaWell, because at the same time, it also is a way of communicating, “Don't worry, I can take a joke. I'm not one of those feminists.” It also plays right into that. So it's protective and you can't rattle me. And, I'll also minimize this just like you want me to minimize it. So I'm actually doing what you want. Then my brain breaks.TracyRight? And then we're back to that thing we were just talking about, the wanting to please, but then wanting to protect oneself, and the impossible balancing act of that. VirginiaLike you were saying you've experienced these horrific misogynistic troll comments. I experienced them in the more fatphobic sense, but like a mix, misogyny and fatphobia, very good friends.So I think when you've experienced more extreme things, you then do feel like you have to downplay some of the minor stuff. It feels scarier for men to say that my children should be taken away from me than it does for them to take pictures of my feet. I can hold that. And yet I'm still allowed to be upset about the foot thing. Just because some things are more awful, it doesn't mean that we stop having a conversation about the more mundane forms of violation, because the more mundane forms of it are also what we're all experiencing all the time.TracyRight? Like the daily experience of it. I mean, unfortunately, there just is a full, rich spectrum of violation.VirginiaSo many choices, so many ways, so many body parts.TracyI do think that the extreme examples do kind of serve to normalize the less extreme, you know? And what we sort of end up putting up with, you know? VirginiaWhat would you say was a helpful turning point for you? What helped you start to step back from being in that cool girl mode? From being in that “I'm performing sex for other people” mode? What helped you access it for yourself?TracyI mean, honestly? A piece of it was porn. It's funny because I turned to porn as a teenager online in the 90s as a source of—I felt at the time—intel about what men wanted. Like, here's how to be what men wanted. And I tried to perform that, you know? And there were downsides to that, of course. There are some downsides. But I would also say that like in the midst of plumbing the depths of 2000s-era, early 2000s-era tube sites to understand what men “wanted,” I also started to kind of explore what I wanted.I wasn't drawn to it from that place of self discovery, but I kind of accidentally stumbled into it because I was watching these videos. And then I was like, oh, wait, what about this thing? Like, that's kind of interesting to me. And then, you start to kind of tumble down the rabbit hole accidentally. Women are socialized to not pursue that rabbit hole for themselves, right? So it was only in pursuing men's desires that I felt like I was able to unlock this whole other world of fantasy and desire for myself that I wanted to explore and that I was able to get into some non-mainstream, queer indie porn that actually felt very radical and eye opening.It was this circuitous route to myself. That was just a piece, I think, of opening up my mind to the world of fantasy, which felt very freeing. Then, getting into a relationship where with a partner who I could actually be vulnerable with, was a huge piece of it. To actually feel safe enough to explore and not be performing, and to have those moments of awkwardness and that you're not just this expert performer all the time. Like, that doesn't lead to good sex.VirginiaNo, definitely not.There's a part in the memoir with your then boyfriend, now husband, and you say that you wanted—you call it “a cozy life.” And I think you guys put that in your wedding vows. I think about that all the time. I think it's so beautiful. Just like, oh right, that's what we're looking for. It's not this other giant thing, the performing and the—I don't know, there's something about that really stuck with meTracyThat's so interesting. I haven't thought about that for a while. It's really interesting, and it's funny, because it was part of our wedding vows. VirginiaCozy means safety with another person, that felt safety with another person, right? And the way we are trained to think of sex and relationships really doesn't prioritize women's safety, kind of ever.TracyI mean, yeah, it's true. There is something very particular about that word cozy—it's different from when people say, like, “I want a comfortable life.” VirginiaYeah, that's bougie.TracyCozy is like, I want to be wrapped in a cozy blanket on the couch with you. And feel safe and intimate and vulnerable. So thank you for reminding me of that thing that I wrote.VirginiaWell, It was really beautiful, and I think about it often, and it was kind of clarifying for me personally. And it's not saying sex won't be hot, you know? It's just that you have that connection and foundation to build whatever you're going to build.TracyRight? And I think coziness kind of is a perfect starting point for being able to experience sexiness and hotness. I think we have this cultural idea that one must have this mystery and sense of otherness in order to be able to build that kind of spice and fire. And at least in my experience, that was not ever the case. I know that other people have that experience, but for me, I never had the experience of that sense of otherness and kind of fear even, and trepidation about this other person leading to a really exciting experience. It was more like being able to get to a place of trust and vulnerability that could get you there.VirginiaAnd obviously, there are all different ways people enjoy and engage in sex. And I don't think every sexual relationship has to be founded in any one thing, but I think when we're talking about this transition that a lot of women go through, from participating in sex for his pleasure, for performance, for validation, to it being something you can do on your own terms, I think the coziness concept is really helpful. There's something there.All right, well, so now you are working on a new podcast with Amanda, as we mentioned, called Dire Straights. Tracy, I'm so excited, because Heterosexuals are not okay. We are not okay, as a population.TracyJust like, literally, look at anywhere. Open up the front page of The New York Times. We're not okay on so many levels.VirginiaSo tell us about the pod.TracySo it's a feminist podcast about heterosexual love, sex, politics and culture, and every episode, we basically pick apart a new element of straight culture. So examples would be couples therapy, dating apps, sex strikes, monogamy, the manosphere, pronatalism, the list goes on and on. Literally this podcast could just never end. There's too much fodder. Unfortunately, I'd love for it to end for a lack of content, but that's not going to happen.So we look at both sex and dating alongside marriage and divorce, and the unequal realm of hetero parenting. We examine celebrities and politicians and consider them as case studies of dire heterosexuality. Tech bros, tradwives, terfs, all the whole cast of terrible hetero characters are up for examination, and our aim is to examine the worst of straight culture, but it's also to step back and kind of try to imagine better possibilities.It's not fatalist, it's not nihilistic. I think we both have this sense of wanting to engage in some kind of utopian dreaming one might say, while we're also picking apart what is so awful and terrible about the current state of heterosexual culture.So our first episode is about dark femininity influencers. I don't know if you've ever encountered them online.VirginiaYes, but I hadn't connected the dots. So I was like, oh, this is a thing.TracyThat's that thing, yeah. That's how I experienced it. It was, like, they just started showing up on my TikTok feed, these women who are usually white and wearing a bold red lip and smokey eyes, and they're essentially promising to teach women how to use their sex appeal in order to manipulate straight men into better behavior. They're selling this idea of seduction as liberation, and specifically liberation from the disappointments of the straight dating world. This idea is that by harnessing your seductive powers, you can be in control in this terrible, awful straight dating sphere.VirginiaIt's like, if Drusilla from Buffy the Vampire Slayer wrote a dating book. I don't know if that reference speaks to you or not.TracyI'm a little rusty on my Buffy, I have to say.VirginiaShe's like, pale skin, red lips, black hair, and tortures men. But yeah, it's this idea that you harness all your like, seductive powers to torture men to get what you want, which is men. Which is a husband or a boyfriend or gifts or whatever. They're shooting for a heterosexual relationship by exerting this power over men, and so the idea is it is somehow it's giving them more power in a patriarchal dynamic. But it doesn't really because they end up in the same place.TracyIt's the same place, it's the same exact place. It feels to me, in some ways, like a corrective against the cool girl stuff that we're talking about that kind of emerged in the 2000s, where, you know, it's this sort of like being down for whatever, that kind of thing. These women are kind of saying, you're not going to sleep with him on the first date. You're going to make him work for it, you know? And so there's a sense of like, I'm in control, because I'm not giving it away for free. It plays into all these awful ideas about women and sex and power. But it is ultimately ending up in the same place, and it is just ultimately about getting a man, keeping a man. And so, you know, how different is it really? I don't think it is.VirginiaI mean, it's not. It's the same rules and conversations that Charlotte's having in the first season of Sex in the City, which is ancient at this point. How are we still here? Are we still here?TracyWe're just inventing new aesthetics to kind of repackage these very old, retro, sexist ideas, you know?VirginiaI also think it's really interesting and helpful that you are interrogating straight culture as someone inside a heterosexual marriage. I've written about my own divorce, my critiques of marriage, and it triggers great conversations, but it always triggers a very uncomfortable response from a lot of married women who don't really want to go there, don't really want to pick up the rocks and look underneath it because it's too scary. It makes sense. And I'm wondering how you think about that piece, and how that's working for you.TracyI think it's very destabilizing for a lot of women in straight marriages and just straight relationships, period, to consider these things. I think it was over a year ago now that I wrote this piece about trying to coin this term hetero-exceptionalism in response to the backlash that I was seeing to the divorce memoir boom, where women reviewers, but also just people on Twitter or wherever, were kind of pointing at these authors and being like, well, I don't know what's wrong with you because my marriage is great.VirginiaThe Emily Gould piece in New York.TracyThere's this sense of like, oh, well, either I chose a good man or I know how to conduct a healthy relationship.VirginiaI'm willing to put in the work.TracyGotta put in the work. You will love our next episode about couples therapy, because we talk about this concept of putting in the work, and the idea that marriage is work, and that if you're not doing the work you're lazy. You're failing, the whole project of it.VirginiaThank you for unpacking that incredibly toxic myth! It really keeps women trapped in “I just have to keep working harder.”TracyWhich I think totally relates to this, the response to the divorce memoirs we're getting from people and the discomfort of when women raise these issues in hetero relationships that are not individual. Like, yes, we all feel that our relationship issues are special and unique. But they all relate to these broader systemic factors.I think that is really, really, really uncomfortable to acknowledge. Because I think even if you're reasonably happy in your hetero relationship, I think if you start to look at the way that your even more minor dissatisfactions connect to these bigger dissatisfactions that women are writing about that's all part of this experience of love in patriarchy that it doesn't feel good. That feels terrible. So I totally understand that.In the same way that we're sold this idea of trying to find the one and that whole romantic fantasy, I think we're also sold this idea of trying to achieve romantically within these patriarchal constraints. So it's like, well, I found the good one. I found the unicorn man who checks all the boxes and I did my work and so I'm in a happy marriage.Virginia“I'm allowed to be heterosexual because I'm doing it right.” That's feeling uncomfortably familiar, to be honest. You think you're going to pull the thread, and you realize you'll rip it all out.TracyThe thing is that a lot of people should be pulling the thread, and a lot of lives should be unraveling, you know? I think that's the uncomfortable truth, right? I totally get the resistance to it. But on the other side of it, I think there are obviously, clearly, a lot of women who are wanting to look at it, and who do want to have these conversations.VirginiaIt sounds like this is what you're trying to chart. There has to be a middle path where it's not this defensive stance of, oh, I found the one good one. And we're equal partners. It's okay, but a relationship where we can both look at this, we can both acknowledge the larger systemic issues and how they're showing up here, and we can work through it and it's not perfect, because it is love in patriarchy, but it can still be valuable. There has to be this third option, right? Please tell me you're living the third option, Tracy.TracyI mean, I do believe that I am but I also hesitate to put any man or any relationship on a pedestal. What I'll say is that to me, it feels so utterly essential in my relationship to acknowledge the ways that our relationship is touched by patriarchy, because all relationships are touched by patriarchy, right? And to not fantasize about us somehow standing outside of it, but also to be having constant ongoing conversations within my relationship where we are mutually critiquing patriarchy and the way that it touches us and the way that it touches the relationships of people we know, you know? I think that's part of why I think I'm able to do this podcast critiquing heterosexuality from within heterosexuality is because my partner showed up to the relationship with his own prior political convictions and feminist awareness. I wasn't having to be like, here's what feminism is and, here's what invisible labor is, and the mental load and all that stuff. He got it, and so we're able to have a mutual shared critique, and that feels very important.VirginiaThat's awesome to know exists, and that you're able to figure that out without it being such hard work. But where does that leave women who are like, oh yeah, my partner doesn't have that shared knowledge? Like, I would be starting the education process from zero and encountering many resistances to it. And therein is the discomfort, I think.TracyI mean, and that is the discomfort of heterosexuality. It's in this culture, because that is the reality is there are not a ton of men who have voluntarily taken women's studies courses in college and have the basic background for this kind of stuff. It's a really high bar and there is this feeling of what are you going to do? Are you going to hold out for the guy who did do that? Or are you going to try to work with him to get there? And I think that's fine, but I think what's essential is are you both working to get there, or are you pulling him along?VirginiaYeah, that's the core of it.I think just in general, reorienting our lives to where our romantic relationships are really important, but so are our friendships. So is our community. I think that's something that a lot of us, especially us in the post-divorce club are looking at. I think one of the great failings of heterosexual marriage is how it silos women into these little pods of the nuclear family and keeps us from the larger community.TracyTotally. I really do believe that the way that our lives are structured, this hetero monogamous, nuclear familydom, it works against these hetero unions so much. Which is so funny, because so much of this is constructed to try to protect them. But I actually think that it undermines them so deeply and drastically. And that we could have much richer and more vibrant, supportive, communal lives that made these romantic unions like less fragile and fraught.VirginiaBecause you aren't needing one person to meet every single one of your needs, you aren't needing this one thing to be your whole life.TracyWe put all of the pressure on the nuclear household for the cooking, the cleaning, the childcare, all of that. That is an impossible setup. It is a setup for failure. There's I wish I could quote the writer, but I love this quote about marriage and the nuclear family being capitalism's pressure cooker. If you think about it in those terms, it's like, this is absurd. Of course, so many people are struggling.VirginiaIt was never going to work. It was never going to work for women anyway, for sure.Well, I'm so excited for folks to discover the new podcast. It's amazing, and I'm just thrilled you guys are diving into all of this. It's such an important space to be having these conversations. So thank you.TracyThank you! I'm very excited about it, and it does, unfortunately, feel very timely.ButterTracyI definitely do have Butter. And this is so on topic to what we've been discussing. This book of essays titled Love in Exile by Shon Faye. It is a brilliant collection of essays about love, where she really looks at the problem of love and the search for love as a collective instead of individual problem. It is so good. It's one of my favorite books that I've read in the last five years.She basically argues that the heteronormative couple privatizes the love and care and intimacy that we all deserve. But that we're deprived of in this late capitalist hellscape, and so she sees the love that so many of us are deprived of as not a personal failure, but a failure of capitalism and community and the growing cruelty of our world. It's just such a tremendous shift of perspective, I think, when it comes to thinking about love and the search for love and that longing and lack of it that so many people experience.VirginiaOh my gosh, that sounds amazing. I can't wait to read it. Adding to cart right now, that is a great Butter. Thank you.Well, my Butter is, I don't know if you can see what I'm wearing, Tracy, but it is the friendship bracelet you sent me when you sent me your copy of Want Me.TracyDo you know that I literally just last night was like, oh, I'm going on the podcast tomorrow, I wonder if she still has that friendship bracelet.VirginiaI'm wearing the one you sent me, which says Utopia IRL, which I love. And then I'm wearing one that says “Fuck the Patriarchy,” which was made by one of my 11 year old's best friends for me. So the 10 year old girls are going to be all right, because they're doing that.TracyThat's amazing.VirginiaI wear them frequently. They go with many outfits, so they're just a real go-to accessory of mine. My seven year old the other day was reading them and was so delighted. And now, when she's at her dad's and we text, she'll randomly text me, “fuck the patriarchy,” just as a little I love you text. And I'm like, alright, I'm doing okay here.TracyYou're like, that's my love language. Thank you.VirginiaSo anyway, really, my Butter is just for friendship bracelets and also mailing them to people, because that was so sweet that you did that.TracyCan I mention though? Can I admit that I literally told you that I was going to send you that friendship bracelet, and I made it, I put in an envelope, and it literally sat by my front door for a full year.VirginiaI think that makes me love it even more, because it was a year. If you had been able to get it out the door in a timely fashion, it would have made you less relatable to me.That it took a full year that feels right. And I was just as delighted to receive it a year later.TracyIt was a surprise. I was like, you probably forgot that.VirginiaI had.TracyI emailed about it and that we had an inside joke about it, because it had been a year.VirginiaI did, but then I was like, oh yeah!TracyYou know what? I think it's a testament to you and how you come off that I like felt comfortable sending it a year later and just being like, fuck it, she'll be fine with it.VirginiaYes, it was great. Anyway, my recommendation is send someone a friendship bracelet by which I mean put it in an envelope by your front door for the next year. Why not? It's a great thing to do.So yes, Tracy, this was so much fun. Thank you for being here. Tell folks where we can follow you support your work, all the things.TracyYou can find the Dire Straights podcast at direstraightspod.com. And you can find my weekly newsletter about sex, feminism, pop culture at Tracyclarkflory.substack.com and you can find me on Instagram at Tracy Clark-Flory.VirginiaAmazing. We'll link to all of that. Thank you for being here.TracyThanks so much for having me.The Burnt Toast Podcast is produced and hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (follow me on Instagram) and Corinne Fay, who runs @SellTradePlus, and Big Undies.The Burnt Toast logo is by Deanna Lowe.Our theme music is by Farideh.Tommy Harron is our audio engineer.Thanks for listening and for supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit virginiasolesmith.substack.com/subscribe

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VEM: Jonas Björkman.YRKE: Entreprenör, fd tennisproffs.AVSNITT: 582.OM: Hurvida det var värt det att lägga 18 år på tennisen, personligheten utanför idrotten, hur Sverige borde kopiera andra länders träningsstrategier, när frun Petra satte livet på paus, bristen på Dire Straights i lurarn, politik och givetvis en hel del om att komma hem till Sverige och vara helt jävla underlägsen i köket under parmiddagarna och dessutom ha missat Killinggänget. SAMTALSLEDARE: Kristoffer TriumfPRODUCENT: Ninni WestinDISTRIBUTION: AcastKONTAKT: MAIL och INSTAGRAM (https://www.instagram.com/varvet/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Deep Purple, Dire Straights, ELO, Steve Miller, and many more.

VEM: Jonas Björkman.YRKE: Entreprenör, fd tennisproffs.AVSNITT: 582.OM: Hurvida det var värt det att lägga 18 år på tennisen, personligheten utanför idrotten, hur Sverige borde kopiera andra länders träningsstrategier, när frun Petra satte livet på paus, bristen på Dire Straights i lurarn, politik och givetvis en hel del om att komma hem till Sverige och vara helt jävla underlägsen i köket under parmiddagarna och dessutom ha missat Killinggänget. SAMTALSLEDARE: Kristoffer TriumfPRODUCENT: Ninni WestinDISTRIBUTION: AcastKONTAKT: MAIL och INSTAGRAM (https://www.instagram.com/varvet/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

MTV News had a great 36 year run-Kurt Loder the original host-The VJ's who did the news-Politics started with the 1992 election-Does MTV still play music videos-Most played artists early days of MTV

Jules and Stocks are reunited this week and have much to discuss. They chat about the hugely influential and popular Serial Podcast which has taken a new twist, NPR cancels podcasts and grapples with it's future, Slate teams up with YouTube, the huge podcast listenership (and opportunities) with Spanish speaking audiences, Spotify has barely touched it's 'Diversity Fund', Amy Poehler's new pod, Julia Louis-Dreyfus's new pod, and they unpack the various ways to (safely) listen on your commute. Recommendation this week from Jules: Hard Fork Get in touch with us on IG here or behindthepodcast@dm.org.auSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's Just Bodybuilding Podcast 208 Big Ron Partlow, Dusty Hanshaw & Scott McNally TIME STAMPS BELOW Don't miss Ron's great story toward the end

Roger McCormick in conversation with Phil Palmer a guitarist who has played with some great artists including Eric Clapton, Dire Straights and Tina Turner.

We are back! Happy new year Behind the Bar patrons, on today's episode put on your cowboy boots and step into the saloon for the folksy pop rock album Brothers in Arms by Dire Straights. Some of the smoothest joints get discussed, along with riveting questions like "can you do the walk of life?", "what is a synth piano?", and "are crickets a musical instruments?" Grab your drink and come find out!

Happy Holidays and welcome back to purgatory!!! The boys are back to talk Tron's pick Fargo from 1996, directed by The Coen Brothers and staring William H. Macy, Steve Buscemi, Peter Stormare, Kristin Rudrud, Harve Presnell, Steve Reevis, Tony Denman, Gary Houston, Larissa Kokernot, Melissa Peterman, Francis Mcdormand, John Caroll Lynch and Steve Park!!!   Thanks for checking us out, if you'd like to find our back catalog go to podbean.com Outro song "Six blade knife" by Dire Straights  https://youtu.be/84q8boe3xGY  

The Denver Broncos and Nathaniel Hackett are facing dire straights vs. the Las Vegas Raiders on Sunday at Empower Field at Mile High. In a Crossover Thursday edition of Locked On Broncos and Locked On Raiders, what is the biggest story between both teams ahead of Sunday's matchup. Why has the Broncos offense failed to live up to expectations while the Broncos defense has shined this year? How will the Broncos defense implement a plan to stop Josh Jacobs who gashed them earlier this season? How will the Broncos offense keep Russell Wilson upright against a Raiders defense that has Maxx Crosby and Chandler Jones with how banged up the Broncos offensive line is? Cody Roark and Your Boy Q share Crossover in an AFC West divisional matchup preview.Denver Broncos Las Vegas Raiders SUBSCRIBE NOW: https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnBroncosWANT MORE DAILY DENVER BRONCOS CONTENT?Follow & Subscribe to the Podcast on these platforms…

The Denver Broncos and Nathaniel Hackett are facing dire straights vs. the Las Vegas Raiders on Sunday at Empower Field at Mile High. In a Crossover Thursday edition of Locked On Broncos and Locked On Raiders, what is the biggest story between both teams ahead of Sunday's matchup. Why has the Broncos offense failed to live up to expectations while the Broncos defense has shined this year? How will the Broncos defense implement a plan to stop Josh Jacobs who gashed them earlier this season? How will the Broncos offense keep Russell Wilson upright against a Raiders defense that has Maxx Crosby and Chandler Jones with how banged up the Broncos offensive line is? Cody Roark and Your Boy Q share Crossover in an AFC West divisional matchup preview. Denver Broncos Las Vegas Raiders SUBSCRIBE NOW: https://www.youtube.com/c/LockedOnBroncos WANT MORE DAILY DENVER BRONCOS CONTENT? Follow & Subscribe to the Podcast on these platforms…

8-25 Segment 3 - Dire Straights, The O'Jays, more 3rd Hour Topics - Arenado's comments on ejection - Players with great swag - Unique names from baseball's golden age

The Mark Moses Show is joined by Musician and Founder of "Classic Albums Live" Craig Martin to talk about his great career, how he founded Classic Albums Live and how excited he is for Dire Straights concert coming up this weekend at The King Center in Melbourne.  Get more details on all things Classic Albums Live at kingcenter.com  The Mark Moses Show weekday afternoons from 3-6 pm on Sports Radio 1560 The Fan & Sportsradio1560.com. You can also listen to Mark Mid days on 95.9 The Rocket.

Agent ZWARSINNE hangs back to blend in with THE BANDS fans while DOUG TOWNSEND winds up in DIRE STRIAGHTS.Support the show

The Tyro Cup pushes on as the The Silver Shadows, along with Fred's Friends continue in the final round. The alliance faces a new area with new dangers and new enemies. Will they succeed or will the Tyro Cup end for these two groups. Let us find out!Players: Chubax Chuidian as MALAK, Jong Clemente as ITSZKI, RJ Villanueva as ASUMEDOS, Ysa Bautista as Sheevra.Dungeon Master: Angelo MontejoIllustrations by @mannie_abeledaTokens from 2minutetabletop.comMap from owlbear.com

Often referenced, always lamented, never before released!Coming at you today, from may 31, 2021, it is our pleasure to release one of our fabled LOST EPISODES.I'm In Touch With Your World is a deep track (and rightfully so, according to Charles) from The Cars' debut album. Sultans Of Swing, by comparison, is perhaps Dire Straights' most famous song. (Basically, I forgot to turn my mic on and recorded this episode with a dusty mac.)Share this pod with your friends and buy our merch:  https://www.bonfire.com/two-track-audio

On this episode Scott and Jack discuss more Worst Band Names and have a few arguments, as usual.

We talk about the song ION HUE, by Hal Lindis of Dire Straights, and about getting permission to record a song.

On this episode Scott and Jack give their lists of worst 80's songs

We cover our Villagers on the domestic stage. Rugby championship banter, Springboks in dire straights, are Straya back? All Blacks tame Pumas, pick 'A' squad for 100th test v South Africa. Politics and sport, Black caps pull out of Pakistan tour amid serious threat. Quiz, facts and more! Brought to you by Hell pizza hellpizza.co.nz

This one is for the mamas and papas out there and for the kids at heart! Suggested to us by a friend of the show over on our Discord, we put together a list of our Top 5 songs from Disney and Pixar movies! Some of these songs come from movies that meant a lot to us a youngsters and since we and a lot of the people that we interact with are parents too, some of these songs also hold a significance because of what they mean to our kids as well. So we hope you enjoy this jolly ride down memory lane this week while we take a break from tough-guy, scene-core music and remember a time when we believed magic was real! Also discussed and reviewed on this episode, albums from Trash Boat, If I Die First, Lil Lotus, Lorde, The Killers, Dire Straights, Live, and Jerry Cantrell. #Aladdin #Coco #Frozen2 #TheLionKing #Moana #Mulan #Pocahontas #Tangled #TrashBoat #IfIDieFirst #LilLotus #Lorde #TheKillers #DireStraights #Live #JerryCantrell Find us on social media: https://discord.gg/2jv87Wypvw https://www.twitter.com/TheSkinnyPod theskinnywithmikeandadam@gmail.com --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/theskinnywithmikeandadam/support

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Joe & Mike talk with legend Bill Schnee! Topics include: 135 Gold/platinum, Grammy Winner, Emmy, Dove Award, 11 Grammy Nominations for Best Engineered Album. Producing/recording some of the most significant recordings in history, Working with notoriously difficult artist like Barbra Streisand and having only good things to say about them, Ringo, George, John & Paul, The Beatles reunion that almost happened, Carly Simon, Barbra Streisand, Ringo, Pablo Cruise, Huey Lewis, Chicago, Whitney Houston, Miles Davis, Dire Straights, All 4 Beatles, Steely Dan, Marvin Gaye, Boz Scaggs, Rod Stewart + More! "From The West Barn" is a weekly podcast hosted by Joe West & Mike Shimshack shot at The West Barn in Nashville, TN. It's available anywhere podcasts are available.  West/Shimshack are both music industry veterans that have seen the peaks and valleys of the business over the past 30 years. Their careers have been punctuated with Grammy wins, hit songs, platinum records, tens of millions of units sold and more than their share of failure.  Tune into "From The West Barn" for their take on the lifestyle and engaging conversations with some of the industries most interesting people! Nothing is off the table ~ FTWB   FROM THE WEST BARN --} Website: http://fromthewestbarn.com iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/from-the-west-barn-with-joe-west-mike-shimshack/id1505829573 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1POtkbPLqZGL3U85nrRaue?si=sJHpJbzYT7a9hmc9-AjsyQ    Bill Schnee  ---}  Website: https://www.billschnee.com Get Bill's Book Here! https://www.amazon.com/dp/1493056131/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_api_glt_fabc_Q9ZXQ5291JED0Z88D2TH   MIKE SHIMSHACK ---}  Instagram: @shackjonz    JOE WEST ---}  Website: https://joe-west.com  School: https://www.apprenticeacademy.net  Instagram: @west_joe  Facebook: https://facebook.com/westjoe    SPONSORS ---}  HERCULES STANDS:  http://herculesstands.com/us/  SLINGSTUDIO:  https://www.myslingstudio.com/  APPRENTICE ACADEMY:  http://www.apprenticeacademy.net  RADIAL ENGINEERING—-} https://www.radialeng.com/ FROM THE WEST BARN copyright 2021

Rife with Freudian bong hits and visions of the roaring 20's, join Joe, James, and Austin as they deftly converse on every topic from Art to NFTs to YouTube Meme Therapy.Coppertone gets cancelled by Q, Joe comes up with a capitalist intestine joke on the spot, and we bust out some pretty solid jokes about what political issues will eventually turn Millennials into Republications.Joe wraps up the pod with a story of lost innocence including a stolen car and a mannapped Joe.0:00 | Homebody Homies0:36 | INTRO MUSIC "Joe's First Live Music of 2021"1:10 | Joe's Art Update2:02 | Mole Police3:41 | Coppertone Cancellation6:41 | Sitting Close8:34 | Roaring 20's Visions13:58 | Unemployment and Wages17:51 | Art During Covid, or: Freudian Bong Hits19:10 Meme TED Talk Therapy27:35 | NFTs40:37 | Millennial Republication Conversion Jokes41:54 | NFT Sci-Fi Theories44:44 | Helmets, Vaccinations, and Mask Repurposing52:09 | Capitalist Intestines, or: Did you See CNBC?53:45 | Music (Mainly Steely Dan, Warren Zevon, and Dire Straights)1:06:13 | Musical Comedy Qualifiers1:08:32 | Pearl Jam1:14:24 | Eric Andre1:19:10 | Text Annotations & Lessons Learned1:31:49 | Podcasting 2 Heaven. or: What Happened to The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth?1:33:00 | A Stolen Car and a Mannapped Joe

Jacob Moore loves to make things. As the founder and lead craftsman at Jacob's Hammer and assistant distiller at Adrift Distillers in Long Beach, Washington, you can always find him deep in the process of creation. He makes booze, sour kraut, and opportunities. He views life as an adventure to be sipped-and-savored. Listen-in as he and Jeff talk homemade fermented foods, surfing, and natural resources. We cover the fungi that lives beneath our feet, the bacteria that lives in our gut, and the passion that lives in our hearts (not to mention the mold in our lungs). Jeff vents about his hatred of people who illegally dump trash in the woods, and even teaches Jake his favorite beach game to play with the kids: Who can find the first used needle? This is a really fun conversation and I hope you enjoy! Topics/keywords: Culture, aquaculture, agriculture, horticulture, fermentation, lacto-fermentation, bacterial, fungi, sour kraut, Kimchi, micro-biome, gut bacterial, Adrift Distillers, Matt Lessnau, high school band, bullying, guitar, Dire Straights, music, Willapa Bay, airboats, Spartina alterniflora, Willapa National Wildlife Refuge, wetlands, estuary, alternative lifestyles, Greg Rekart, waves, atmospheric pressure, ocean waves, wave dynamics, “feeling bottom”, energy, surfing, wave barrel, climate, trade winds, Hawaii, Oahu, NOAA, tide charting, artificial intelligence, shortboard, longboard, big wave surfing, Waikiki Beach, Cape Disappointment State Park, Washington Coast, ocean photography, Eddie Aiko, Waimea Bay, Eddie Aikau, surf competition, Olympic lifting, weight lifting, menstrating dogs, toddlers, Marine Mammal Protection Act (1972), Nixon, National Wilderness, travel, germ theory, tetanus, human skin, biotechnology, staph infection, MRSA, “Find the used needle”, littering, Columbia River, Beach Clean-up, Sand Island, styrofoam waste, furniture off-gassing, new car smell, olfactory sensation, allergies, oysters, Willapa Bay Oyster Growers Association, ghost shrimp, burrowing shrimp, carbaryl, imidacloprid, eel grass, Zostera japonica, Zostera marina, Wright Flyer, Smithsonian Institute, University of Washington, Environmental Studies, mold, FCC, Joe Rogan, memes, Dogecoin, Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, Shiba inu, Elon Musk, Mark Cuban, inflation, Mana, Decentraland, Federal Reserve, oligarchy, Dr. Kim Patten, Washington State University extension, fish nerds, coastal people, reading, audiobooks, books, literacy, journaling, divorce, emotional intelligence, meditation, mindfulness, Headspace, chakras, ancient wisdom, impulsivity, falling in love, prophetic dreams, alcoholism, Jacob’s Hammer, Links: Jacob's Hammer instagram: @Jacobs_hammer_ Business inquiries/guest booking: Ramblebytheriver@gmail.com Website: https://my.captivate.fm/Ramblebytheriver.captivate.fm (Ramblebytheriver.captivate.fm) Facebook: Jeff Nesbitt (Ramble by the River)https://www.facebook.com/jeff.nesbitt.9619 (https://www.facebook.com/jeff.nesbitt.9619) Instagram: https://instagram.com/ramblebytheriver?r=nametag (@ramblebytheriver) Twitter: @RambleRiverPod Youtube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCNiZ9OBYRxF3fJ4XcsDxLeg (https://youtube.com/channel/UCNiZ9OBYRxF3fJ4XcsDxLeg) Music Credit(s): Still Fly, Revel Day. Music Credits: Too Excited, Mica Emery.

Dave Baker brings you 2 hours of the latest nu disco and jackin’ house tracks, including remixes of classic songs by Michael Jackson, The Doobie Brothers, Dire Straights, Madonna, and the Pet Shop Boys among many other classics. https://www.djdavebaker.com/jackinhouse 1. You Ain't Love feat. Teni Tinks (Reprise) - The Shapeshifters, Teni Tinks [Glitterbox Recordings] 2. This Time (Original Mix) - Bruze D'Angelo, Jeremy Juno [Soulful Legends] 3. Love If You Need It feat. Fi McCluskey (Mousse T.'s Extended Dub You Need) - Horse Meat Disco, Fi McCluskey [Glitterbox Recordings] 4. Intoxicated (Extended Mix) - Me & My Toothbrush [Enormous Tunes] 5. Auo (Moodena & Sartorial Remix) - Dirtytwo [No Fuss Records] 6. Thiking Of You Feat. Kathy Sledge (Sandy Rivera's Classic Mix) - Kathy Sledge, Twism [Soulful Legends] 7. Get Enough (Original Mix) - Mike Chenery [Disco Down] 8. A.B.C. (Original Mix) - Block & Crown, Lissat [Tactical Records] 9. Sing It To Me (Original Mix) - Softmal, LLølita, Lucenamusic [Sunset Disco] 10. About Me (Original Mix) - Softmal [Pizza House] 11. Long Train Running Feat. TRP (Original Mix) - Bissett, Ben Rainey [Tactical Records] 12. All Night (Original Mix) - FabioEsse [FederFunk Family] 13. Swingin' Sultan (Original Mix) - Block & Crown, Lissat [Sophisticated Elite] 14. Gabriel (Clubdubb) - Block & Crown, Paul Parsons [Mastermix Records] 15. Fooled Me (Treasure's Version) - Treasure Fingers, Sammy Deuce [Nervous Records] 16. Back To The House (DJ Fopp Remix) - Mauri Fly [Stereophonic] 17. Got A Whole Lot Of Soul (Club Mix) - Paul Parsons [Tall House Digital] 18. Never Look Back (Wh0 Extended Remix) - Oliver Heldens [Heldeep Records] 19. Ultra Funk (Instrumental Mix) - ROMBE4T [Guaraber Records] 20. Let Me Show You Love (Original Mix) - HRDY [Ocean Trax] 21. Dance Of Disco (Jackin House Mix) - HP Vince, Discotron [Tasty Recordings] 22. Got You (Original Mix) - Maex, Point85 [Mango Sounds] 23. Fresh (Frank Caro, Alemany Remix) - Crazibiza [PornoStar Records] 24. It Just You Do (Original Mix) - Ivan Kay [Whore House] 25. By My Side (Original Mix) - Block & Crown [Supercircus] 26. Its A Love Thing (Original Mix) - Block & Crown, Paul Parsons [Playedit Records] 27. Young Hearts Run Free (Original Mix) - Manuel Grandi [Samui Recordings] 28. Let You Know (Original Mix) - Block & Crown, Paul Parsons [Save The Nightlife] 29. West End Girls feat. Boyz R Busy (Nudisco 2021 Club Mix) - Block & Crown, Boyz R Busy [Hardcopy NL Recordings]

This week the girls take aim at Misheard Lyrics......Bianca opened this episode with a tidbit about what a misheard lyric is called, FYI it's a Mondegreen.  We then questioned America's choice in believing "donzerly" is a word. Then without further ado, Bianca regaled everyone with her own mondegreens and her daughter's ones as well!Amy was the mighty meat in the sandwich this week (which is supes weird for a vegetarian), she told of her own mondegreens of which,  one was basically the only time she caved Sarah's head in (hilarious). Amy also declared herself "Lady Mondegreen". Sarah finished us all off with some absolute classics and we could not stop laughing!!! We say it every week but we really want to hear from our listeners. If you have a topic you want us to take aim at, please hit us up at the links below:FacebookTwitterInstagramTumblrOr email us at - fridaynightwinefight@gmail.comHead on over to the blog: https://fridaynightwinefight.blogspot.com/ for accompanying content.Episode edited by BiancaTheme music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/musicSupport the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/fnwfpodcast)

On this episode we clock the tea on Drag Race UK and All Stars International, mental health and IG, Lil Mama, cancel culture and internet culture, Tinder, marriage and relationships, Woody Allen, outrage culture, Hey Boo of The Week Sports Segment, and much, much more. You can become a Patreon Saint at www.patreon.com/whatstheteapod. Visit our website www.whatstheteapod.com Follow us on Twitter @R2ThaEdgy @nicju @gooddaysaints #WTTPod Send us an email gooddaysaints@gmail.com Leave us a voicemail 302-570-0832 (0TEA)

This ep We have Delerium, Mark Morrison, The Pointer sisters, Dire Straights, Donna Summer, Ciara n Missy Elliot, and more Hear a tribute for MF Doom and requests from Madonna, Janet Jackson and Living colour. […] http://media.blubrry.com/triplex/p/joy.org.au/triplex/wp-content/uploads/sites/165/2021/01/TRIPLE-X-PODCAST_10-JANUARY-2021.mp3 Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 2:07:33 — 102.2MB) Subscribe or Follow Us: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | RSS The post Human Nature appeared first on TripleX.

A Song Called Johnny! Τραγούδια για τους Γιάννηδες! Από τους Waterboys, Prefab Sprout, Dire Straights, Don Henley, Fine Young Cannibals, Placebo, David Bowie, New Order, Vaya Con Dios, James….

We interview two very different guys. Dennis Kosuth, a registered nurse & progressive activist, the other, Tyler Bluntman, a conservative media guy.

1985 was a year for Blockbuster Video, The Breakfast Club & Brothers In Arms. Oh, and some people bought CDs.

The last 7 episodes have all been leading up to this moment: JoJo vs. Dio Hamon vs. Ancient Vampire Magic Beefcake vs. Twink The world, and our capacity for the absurd, will never be the same.In this episode, the gang covers JJBA's eighth episode: "Bloody Battle! JoJo & Dio." Gabe tries to catch up with a now more experienced Jane, Jane works through how a severed head can speak, Shad focuses a little too long on slapping children, Dylan feels sweet vindication, and everyone tries their best to play-by-play the craziest fight in the show... so far.Features: Dylan Strehle (@PaleAlePaleSkin)Shadrach Strehle (@ShadrachStrehle)Jane O'Connor (@j_ocoo)Gabriel Listro (@GabrielListro)

Dire Straights. Weather update. Do fish have ears? Iggy's fishing hole. Podcasts. A man writes about his small manhood. The dais discusses at length. Iggy will berate you for money. Iggy's Cuts of the Week. EMOTD.  

Dire Straights. Weather update. Do fish have ears? Iggy's fishing hole. Podcasts. A man writes about his small manhood. The dais discusses at length. Iggy will berate you for money. Iggy's Cuts of the Week. EMOTD.  

CART IndyCar Series and Formula 1 veteran Stefan Johansson, who manages a number of current NTT IndyCar Series drivers, joins us for The Week In IndyCar to discuss a wide variety of topics on our listener-driven Q&A show. Episode Time Stamps: Show open  Stefan on driver contracts and iRacing (starts at 2m42s) Driving 1000HP Indy cars, F1 cars, and sports cars (12m47s) Setting the lap record in a 1983 Porsche 956 at the Nurburgring (20m25s) Developing the 2009 Acura ARX-02a LMP1 car (23m28s) Tales of driving for the Onxy F1 team in 1989 and sponsor Jean-Pierre Van Rossem (27m17s) Driving for Tony Bettenhausen (35m25s) Owning a Champ Car team with Ryan Hunter-Reay as his driver (39m17s) Thoughts on Marcus Ericsson (41m55s) Thoughts on Felix Rosenqvist (44m21s) Friendship with Dire Straights' Mark Knopfler (45m21s) Passion for painting (46m57s) Subscribe: https://marshallpruettpodcast.com/subscribe Join our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/MarshallPruettPodcast

Daryl heads back to the 80's once more to play some classics - from the likes of Billy Idol, Poison, Dire Straights and Nik Kershaw just to name a few, it's a goodie so hit play!

Living in Dire Straights Psalm 4:1-8 (NKJ) 6 Strategies for Sleeping Well: 1) Supplicate (v. 1) 2) Ventilate (v. 2) 3) Anticipate (v. 3) 4) Meditate (v. 4) 5) Abdicate (vv. 5 & 8) 6) Celebrate (v. 5)

Andy and Zach talk about Dire Straights, the people's champ, and try not to talk about the CV too much. This episode is brought to you by Subway - Keizer and Independence locations. Make it what you want. Fresh is the taste. Email -- mckob@yahoo.com Instagram -- marion_county_knockout_boyz

Today we have a special guest! Jessica Schab. Jessica works for Mainframe entertainment in Canada, one of THE premier digital animation companies! Before things like Pixar they were THE CGI animation people! Behind the Video for Dire Straights' Money for Nothing video back in the 80s, Transformers Beastwars, Octonaughts, Babrie, and my personal fave: Reboot! Jessica is an interesting person. She's in charge of production design on an upcoming show for Dreamworks, which involves a particular kind of organisational based leadership which is quite uncommon in a lot of small scale creative projects like webcomics, but still extremely important nevertheless and a lot of projects fail because they don't take account of it. Jessica is an even more interesting character than that though. She's been a spiritual guru who has lived all over the world. She then reversed course and became a sceptical activist! She's even had a documentary made about her! So she's quite good at building and maintaining a personal brand which is what every webcomicer should know how to do. You'll have to watch our Patron video to find out about that stuff though. This week Gunwallace has given us the theme to Grey Sky Blue Moon. I'm tempted to write a bad early 80s rap for this, but I won't torture people that way. This tune is remarkably 1980s in style: rap, dance style music, exactly like you'd get from a big budget movie from 1984 or ‘85. Think Beverly Hills Cop or Police Academy. It's perfect! It's a great match for the crazy light night hi-jinks that the girls of Grey Sky Blue Moon get up too! Topics and shownotes Links Equal time for free thought: WBAI 99.5 FM - http://equaltimeforfreethought.org/ Reboot - https://reboot.fandom.com/wiki/Mainframe_Entertainment_Inc Mainframe - https://www.mainframe.ca/ Jessica Schab - http://www.jessicaschab.com/ Featured comic: The Red Moon - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/news/2020/jan/14/featured-comic-the-red-moon/ Featured music: Grey Sky Blue Moon - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Grey_Sky_Blue_Moon/, by xailenrath, rated M. Special thanks to: Gunwallace - http://www.virtuallycomics.com Tantz Aerine - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Tantz_Aerine/ Ozoneocean - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/ozoneocean Banes - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/Banes kawaiidaigakusei - https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/user/kawaiidaigakusei/ VIDEO exclusive! Become a subscriber on the $5 level and up to see our weekly Patreon video and get our advertising perks! - https://www.patreon.com/DrunkDuck Even at $1 you get your name with a link on the front page and a mention in the weekend newsposts!

This week The Boys welcome one of Cade's former bandmates and childhood friend, Dillon Petrillo, onto the podcast. They discuss being in bands in Wyoming, who's the best one-scene character in Batman, as well as get a special visit from future NFL Hall of Famer Peyton Manning. All this and songs from George Clanton, What Moon Things, Dire Straights, and Band of Horses. Featured Songs Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7ixx9qzYruUIEPKWcMKkNB?si=1ZlTwP4HQ1OYI8KigeQ9Ig

Stella Mozgawa has the magic feel. It’s something certain musicians possess, when they are behind their instrument you are captivated as a listener and their touch is so natural you never question what they are playing, it’s just right. Stella has been the drummer in Warpaint for over 10 years and in that time has delivered that magic to their critically acclaimed albums as well as playing on albums by Kurt Vile, Kim Gordon and Sir Tom Jones to name just a few. We sat down to discuss Alanis Morissette, LA rock pigs (or LARPS for short..), how to make a band work in the longterm and why she never needs to hear Sultans Of Swing by Dire Straights ever again.   All music on the podcast by Joshua Moriarty & All The Colours.   Stella’s BBC radio show- https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006n0b   My fave Warpaint song ‘Drive’ live from a few years back- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x25BdQSSEgs

While trying to investigate Captain Jolly's ship, "Dire Straights", everything went according to plan... except when they tried to trick him... and when they wound up killing his crew... and when Captain Jolly cut the rope holding a crate above the ship... actually... the plan kinda failed... critically  So now we find top cop Tony Swagger hanging from the rigging above a giant broken box about to get eaten by an unknown angry beast... But don't worry... the rest of the party... has a plan...  Follow us on twitter and Instagram @yourolleda1  Subscribe, Rate and Review us! It helps so much!  Episode Music Credits  Composer: 魔界Symphony Title: "Dragon War"  Music provided by No Copyright Music: Royal Rumble by Jay Man - OurMusicBox  Composer: Yazid Septiansyah Title: "Epic Adventure Journey"  "Dragon Slayer" and "Rapture" by Ross Bugden 

The party must find their way on to a ship called Dire Straights in order to retrieve clues to the Sapphire Rose case and discover the whereabouts of the monk Godfried. They have a warrant. They have a sneaky plan. They have bad accents... but Dire Straights has one thing they didn't expect... Captain Jolly.  Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @yourolleda1 It's epically awesome if you HIT SUBSCRIBE, RATE US, LEAVE A REVIEW  Thank you for your support!  Live Epically! 

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“Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.”The intention behind words matters.How a word is used will affect the receiver in communication. Words can lift people up, but they can also hurt when they are intended to be prejudiced, demeaning, or hateful.What about taking a word at face value?Should all words be free to use, or are some restricted to a certain group? Should we just get over it if someone uses a word we find offensive? Words are just words some will argue – usually those who have never been harmed by words, or who have power or privilege in some form.“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” – Eleanor Roosevelt‘How can you tell me that the word I'm using is not a word I can use?’, some will ask. A word on its own is isolated in meaning, definition, and power – it lacks content and intention. However, effective communication is based on having a context with the intention of meaningful exchange.For example, the word “faggot” has meant many things including a bundle of sticks, a bunch of wrapped herbs used to flavour a soup stock, and a derogatory term to call a man presumed to be gay. (Source)But the meaning is entirely clear in, “You're a fucking faggot!" The intention behind that expression can have powerful, triggering, and damaging consequences.How we understand each other is word-driven plus other modalities like tone, body language, and memes.“Memes are habits, skills, songs, stories, or any other kind of information that is copied from person to person. Memes, like genes, are replicators. That is, they are information that is copied with variation and selection. Because only some of the variants survive, memes (and hence human cultures) evolve. Memes are copied by imitation, teaching and other methods, and they compete for space in our memories and for the chance to be copied again. Large groups of memes that are copied and passed on together are called co-adapted meme complexes, or memeplexes.” – Susan BlackmoreHere’s an example of a meme in the form or a popular song from the 80’s.Due to the catchy guitar riffs and sing-along-lyrics, “Money For Nothing” by Dire Straights made it okay for heterosexuals (mostly men) to repeatedly sing (as if that was somehow less offensive) and thus condone the repeated use of the derogatory word, “faggot”. Had Dire Straights written the same lyrics about a Black Man and used the “N-word”, the song would never have received air-play, let alone get published."See the little faggot with the earring and the makeup. Yeah buddy that's his own hair. That little faggot got his own jet airplane. That little faggot he's a millionaire.”How words create violence.Have you ever heard a straight man say, “That guy is such a cocksucker”? His intention is meant to be an insult. He may not be indicating the other person is gay, but the phrase – the meme – is derogatory. It’s meant to indicate a lack of power, and a lack of status quo masculinity, to the point that the other man is being equated with a sissy, forced onto his knees in a subservient position to suck – most likely – another straight man’s cock.Now why is it that women don’t demean other women by saying, “That bitch is such a carpet muncher”, or similar. Perhaps they do, but it’s certainly not a normative expression I’ve ever heard. This example of language use shows how our choice of words matter, for what our words intend to communicate, and what our word choices say about us and how we view the world.Words used to reinforce hate can result in murder.Matthew Shepard might be alive today if the men who killed him could have had an open dialogue about the words they used, the stories they heard, the memes they repeated, and how left unchecked, can lead to horrific violence. I’m sure there were many more issues going on in the lives of the two 21-year old men who brutally assaulted Shepard and left him for dead. But when we allow people to believe that words don’t matter, or that words don’t hurt, this is what can happen:“Police say Shepard was beaten with the butt of a .357 Magnum pistol as they drove to a remote bluff east of town, where they tied Shepard to a buck fence and, as he pleaded for his life, bludgeoned him, stole his wallet and black patent-leather shoes and left him for dead. Some 18 hours later, UW freshman Aaron Kreifels took a spill on his mountain bike outside of town. Standing up, he saw what he thought was a scarecrow hanging on a fence — until he noticed the human hair. “I realized, ‘Oh, my God, it’s a person!’ ” recalls Kreifels. Hospitalized in Fort Collins, Colorado, Shepard died five days later from his head injuries.” – SourceWe need to think before we speakWe need to consider and contemplate the impact of our word choices. We need to be ready to listen when others tell us that our words hurt or offend. It isn’t always a matter of right and wrong – sometimes there is misunderstanding in communication. Other times there is a clear intention to hurt. Given that language is how we communicate, we can chose division or we can chose harmony.

It's the first days of autumn and we're enjoy the overspilling summer evenings. So many great records this year and we're playing them loud to drown out the sound of inimitable, obscene political corruption. Enjoying the show? Please support BFF.FM with a donation. Playlist 1′33″ Love Is The Slug by We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use It on Bostin' Steve Austin (Vindaloo Records) 4′26″ Happy Hour by The Housemartins on London 0 Hull 4 (Elektra) 11′13″ Fall On Me by R.E.M. on Life's Rich Pageant (I.R.S. Records) 13′49″ I Hope You're Happy Now by Elvis Costello and the Attractions on Blood and Chocolate (Self-released) 16′47″ Don't Dream It's Over by Crowded House on Crowded House (Capitol Records) 24′11″ The Dead Heart by Midnight Oil on The Dead Heart (Columbia) 29′06″ Boys Don't Cry (New Voice · Club Mix) by The Cure on Boys Don't Cry 12" (Fiction) 39′26″ Starpower by Sonic Youth on Evol (SST) 44′04″ Why Can't This Be Love by Van Halen on 5150 (Warner Bros) 47′41″ You Give Love A Bad Name by Bon Jovi on Slippery When Wet (Mercury) 56′41″ Absolute Beginners by David Bowie on Absolute Beginners (Parlophone) 64′44″ Dance II by Philip Glass on In the Upper Room (Sony) 69′57″ Brothers in Arms by Dire Straights on Brothers in Arms (Mercury Records) 78′55″ Don't Get Me Wrong by The Pretenders on Get Close (WEA) 82′38″ You Can Call Me Al by Paul Simon on Graceland (Sony) 87′24″ Who Needs Love Like That by Erasure on Wonderland (Sire Records) 96′08″ Hounds of Love by Kate Bush on The Whole Story (EMI) 97′34″ Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money) by Pet Shop Boys on Please (Parlophone) 101′16″ All Day Long by New Order on Brotherhood (Factory) 108′32″ Walk This Way (feat. Aerosmith) by Run-D.M.C. on Raising Hell (Arista) 113′32″ No Sleep Till Brooklyn by Beastie Boys on License to Ill (Def Jam) 119′16″ Electric Café by Kraftwerk on Electric Café (Elektra) Check out the full archives on the website.

On this Hump Day edition the Senseless Survey, a gentle fella was rung up by Kevin on his cell service phone. Kevin confused him right from the start asking him that having one fleece jacket is a "fluse" which threw the caller off. From saying hello to a dog to Geraldo Rivera to Dire Straights are getting their chicks for free still. The guy said this is a prank call and repeated it again and again. He finally had enough when Kevin asked him if he got drunk at wine tastings and screams out his Mother's name during sex. Have you ever done either of those?

Krosst Out is the first Canadian and first rap artist that I've had the pleasure of interviewing for the podcast. He was born in Toronto, but grew up in the small town of Campbellford, a town he describes as a place where everyone wants to fit in. As a kid his interests were focused on the city life and doing his own thing. Today he lives in the city of Toronto, but admits he loves returning to the country town where he grew up. Like many of the indie artists featured on the podcast, Krosst Out fits into the "up and coming" category. His father was a guitar player, a gigging musician, and a source of music inspiration. His father insisted that KO do something he himself had never done–learn music theory. Piano lessons ensued. Then KO found his dad's bass, and says–he was hooked. Krosst Out would go on to also learn guitar and drums. He genrefies his style as hip hop and rap fused with rock. His music influences include rap, metal and rock. Among his favorite artists–Rage Against the Machine, System of the Down, Eminem, and Biggie. But before all of these influences took hold, he'd been exposed to the music of his father–Rush, Dire Straights, Eric Clapton, The Who and The Police. When I asked how and when he first got into rap, KO begins by sharing that he grew up in a christian household, adding that his parents were unsure about rap music. He listened to christian rappers in the beginning, but by his teens moved on to metal. It was during this time period that he also started playing bass, writing lyrics, and inevitably listened to more and more rap. But it's the rock influence that provides a certain versatility with regard to venues that will book him. Where touring is concerned, Krosst Out takes the DIY approach. He applied this approach in setting up his current tour–it's simple and straight forward. KO followed other Canadian artists on Facebook, noting where they performed. Then he methodically started contacting those venues, compiling a database. He also looked at cities he specifically wanted to play, adding them to his database. The outreach routine was and still is a relentless routine of emailing, calling, emailing, followed by a deliberate rinse & repeat. He says he also spent hours on Google looking for bars in various cities. This has become his routine process for booking outside of Toronto. KO says his brief pitch includes what venues want, what they're looking for, selling the event, links to live performances, social, and his bio. We also touch on a few concepts straight out of The Unstarving Musician's Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, including schmoozing, asking for peer help, and staying on top of the changing venue landscape. KO also gets a little marketing help from his girlfriend, suburban pop indie artist Mel Yelle. Although KO feels fairly new at the game of touring, he says this year will be his biggest to date. The current leg of his tour spans seven shows in three weeks, taking him from Toronto to Nova Scotia. We also talk about some of the not-so-great aspects of tour planning, referring specifically to artists who suffer from rockstar-syndrome and generally poor attitudes. As a tour organizer, KO deals with ticket sales, photographers, artist payouts, and more. There's not much room or toleration for poor attitudes. In fact, he and I agree that attitude trumps talent–every time. KO's touring configuration is pretty basic, in his own words, consisting of two mics, a drummer and/or a DJ. He says he likes having the onstage interaction of a DJ or drummer. Funny thing is, drummers notoriously despise DJs. It could have been just for me, but KO says he thinks the onstage interaction is better with a drummer, adding that he likes jumping off the kick drum, followed by a pause. He says the crowd gets into it. And why wouldn't they?  

Krosst Out is the first Canadian and first rap artist that I've had the pleasure of interviewing for the podcast. He was born in Toronto, but grew up in the small town of Campbellford, a town he describes as a place where everyone wants to fit in. As a kid his interests were focused on the city life and doing his own thing. Today he lives in the city of Toronto, but admits he loves returning to the country town where he grew up. Like many of the indie artists featured on the podcast, Krosst Out fits into the "up and coming" category. His father was a guitar player, a gigging musician, and a source of music inspiration. His father insisted that KO do something he himself had never done–learn music theory. Piano lessons ensued. Then KO found his dad's bass, and says–he was hooked. Krosst Out would go on to also learn guitar and drums. He genrefies his style as hip hop and rap fused with rock. His music influences include rap, metal and rock. Among his favorite artists–Rage Against the Machine, System of the Down, Eminem, and Biggie. But before all of these influences took hold, he'd been exposed to the music of his father–Rush, Dire Straights, Eric Clapton, The Who and The Police. When I asked how and when he first got into rap, KO begins by sharing that he grew up in a christian household, adding that his parents were unsure about rap music. He listened to christian rappers in the beginning, but by his teens moved on to metal. It was during this time period that he also started playing bass, writing lyrics, and inevitably listened to more and more rap. But it's the rock influence that provides a certain versatility with regard to venues that will book him. Where touring is concerned, Krosst Out takes the DIY approach. He applied this approach in setting up his current tour–it's simple and straight forward. KO followed other Canadian artists on Facebook, noting where they performed. Then he methodically started contacting those venues, compiling a database. He also looked at cities he specifically wanted to play, adding them to his database. The outreach routine was and still is a relentless routine of emailing, calling, emailing, followed by a deliberate rinse & repeat. He says he also spent hours on Google looking for bars in various cities. This has become his routine process for booking outside of Toronto. KO says his brief pitch includes what venues want, what they're looking for, selling the event, links to live performances, social, and his bio. We also touch on a few concepts straight out of The Unstarving Musician's Guide to Getting Paid Gigs, including schmoozing, asking for peer help, and staying on top of the changing venue landscape. KO also gets a little marketing help from his girlfriend, suburban pop indie artist Mel Yelle. Although KO feels fairly new at the game of touring, he says this year will be his biggest to date. The current leg of his tour spans seven shows in three weeks, taking him from Toronto to Nova Scotia. We also talk about some of the not-so-great aspects of tour planning, referring specifically to artists who suffer from rockstar-syndrome and generally poor attitudes. As a tour organizer, KO deals with ticket sales, photographers, artist payouts, and more. There's not much room or toleration for poor attitudes. In fact, he and I agree that attitude trumps talent–every time. KO's touring configuration is pretty basic, in his own words, consisting of two mics, a drummer and/or a DJ. He says he likes having the onstage interaction of a DJ or drummer. Funny thing is, drummers notoriously despise DJs. It could have been just for me, but KO says he thinks the onstage interaction is better with a drummer, adding that he likes jumping off the kick drum, followed by a pause. He says the crowd gets into it. And why wouldn't they?  

Secret Origins #50. The final issue! Six stories! Six guests! So many feels! The epic finale to the Secret Origins Podcast begins with Ryan Daly and Tom Panarese talking about Dick Grayson for like the millionth time when the Boy Wonder catches his very first look at Batman in “The Glimpse”. Then, Ryan teams up with J. David Weter for a new version of “The Flash of Two Worlds”. After that, Michael Bailey rides into town to help tell the story of the Western hero Johnny Thunder. Next, Ryan discovers the exotic David Ace Gutierrez at the bottom of the ocean with some opinions on the origin of Dolphin—along with a message from “Roy Thomas”. Then, Rob Kelly joins Ryan for the origin of Black Canaries young and old. And finally, Ryan and the Irredeemable Shag settle their decades-old feud to cover the secrets of the Space Museum. Secret Origins Podcast Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/secretoriginspodcast Secret Origins Podcast on Stitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/httpsecretoriginspodcastlibsyncom/secret-origins-podcast?refid=stpr Let us know what you think! Leave a comment or send an email to: RDalyPodcast@gmail.com. Follow Tom Panarese’s Pop Culture Affidavit on the Two True Freaks network at: http://twotruefreaks.com/shows.php?show=40 Follow J. David Weter’s Dave Does Podcasts also on Two True Freaks at: http://twotruefreaks.com/shows.php?show=47 Check out Michael Bailey’s Views From the Longbox at: http://viewsfromthelongbox.blogspot.com Find David Ace Gutierrez on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/dmgutierrez?fref=ts And, of course, Rob Kelly and the Irredeemable Shag have plenty of podcasts you can find on the Fire and Water Podcast Network right here: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/shows/ This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK. Visit our WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/ Follow us on TWITTER - https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Subscribe via iTunes as part of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST: http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/the-fire-and-water-podcast/id463855630 “Premonition” (Theme for Secret Origins Podcast) written and performed by Neil Daly. Additional music: “Sons & Daughters” by The Decemberists; “Brothers In Arms” by Dire Straights; “Two Hearts” by Bruce Springsteen; “Coward of the County” by Kenny Rogers; “The Porpoise Song” by The Monkees; “Puttin’ On the Ritz” by Fred Astaire; “Little Digger” by Liz Phair; “God Only Knows” by The Beach Boys; “Sugar Walls” by Sheena Easton”; “Cups” by Anna Kendrick. Thanks for listening!

Eric Schinzer is no musical sheep waiting around for the sounds he loves to pop up in the lame stream. He knew he loved the sweet sound of synth from a young age (citing Dire Straights's Walk of Life as an early intro) and became a fan of midi, 80s sounds (and styles) from then on. A recent resurgence of synth came with a heavy dose of love of 80s-style scoring and turned into this specific Synthwave genre. It's mostly taking off in France and the UK, driven by soundtracks like Drive and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, and makes Eric tingle like an ASMR fan. He even enjoys creating his own music and using his favorite synthwave bands, including Perterbator, Power Glove, Dynatron, and Gunship, to score his trudges through a city he feels determined to prepare in and spring off from. Thanks to Cards Against Humanity for sponsoring. MBSing is a proud member of the Chicago Podcast Cooperative, so you should check out more of those shows if you like this one. Here's a Soundcloud of Eric's that has funny stuff on it.

The guys started the show dreaming about a Red Mac Pro. They then turned to the passing of Bill Keene. Bill has been mentioned in various FST episodes and was a well respected epidemiologist as seen in the articles by the Oregonian and Doug Powell. The guys then turned to their beverages, Coffee Club, Napoleon Dynamite, Homeland, and Car Talk. Ben shared his preference for Aussie Rule football and Arcade Fire's album Reflektor. The conversation then turned to Don's limited iPhone music library, Privateering and Dire Straights, which reminded Ben of Money for Nothing and WWE Wrestling (not WWF Wrestling). To finish they talked about Christmas music, Bad Religion's Christmas Songs, Coulton and Roderick's One Christmas at a Time and Horrible Christmas songs. Ben confused IAFP's History with Bug Trivia and shared Julian Cox's information about the 1960's, and this evolved into a broader discussion about the IAFP and its membership. The discussion then turned back to Bill Keene and some of the outbreaks he had been involved in. This included a Salmonella Panama outbreak (not to be confused with Van Halen's Panama), which was the first outbreak that was solved through the innovative use of supermarket loyalty cards and that Bill and others were sued for (the lawsuit was eventually dropped.. The guys then discussed outbreak investigation in some detail and that public health officials are damned if they do and damned if they don't name commodities and suppliers. There is of course always a risk of getting the epidemiology wrong, as was the case with Salmonella Saintpaul in peppers. Finally, Bill's investigation of a Norovirus outbreak reminded Ben of a recent Norovirus outbreak in Las Vegas. Then Ben commented on an exchange with Chris Gunter, who was presenting on traceability for small producers at the 2013 Strawberry Expo. Chris' presentation is based on the investigation of an E. coli O157 outbreak related to strawberries, in which Bill Keene played a part. In the after dark, the guys reflected on mortality and that we should all Enjoy Every Sandwich. And because they love him, Rob Ford got a mention again and again.

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