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What happens when you try to build a global movement teaching people how to breathe in an industry exploding with competition? Gary Torrens, co-founder and Second in Command at Soma Breath, sits down with Cameron Herold to reveal what most operators never say out loud. This conversation punches into operational realities: remote chaos, hiring struggles, visionary partner dynamics, and the brutal truth about what actually works when building a scalable certification business.Breathwork is everywhere, but Soma Breath's story is different. You'll hear how they went from wild psilocybin-fueled vision quests in Thailand to leading thousands of facilitators and facing the tough tradeoffs of pricing, growth, and culture. If you want to understand the Second in Command power dynamic and see the inside of a company growing faster than most can handle, this episode is your shortcut.Listen now or risk missing the real-world roadmap and the costly mistakes that separate scalable movements from also-rans. Only here: Gary's unfiltered answers and their playbook for the next stage.This episode is brought to you by our Silver Sponsor, Next Level Growth.They help COOs and leadership teams build Elite Organizations through a proven, customizable framework built around the Five Obsessions of Elite Organizations.If you and your leadership team are ready to operate at the next level, take the Elite Organizations Assessment and receive a free 20-page customized report based on your answers, plus a complimentary one-hour coaching session with a Next Level Growth Partner and Business Guide to begin implementing tools that will help you build an even more elite business.Complete the assessment here to get started - nextlevelgrowth.com/cooassessmentTimestamped Highlights06:53 – The unexpected business model nobody saw coming10:14 – Ancient breathing meets modern science: the strategy that sparked a movement13:10 – Why they priced the membership low—and the hidden risks17:16 – Remote chaos: problems they never saw coming with a global team22:10 – The controversial move to focus on city-based expansion24:19 – The real marketing mess they had to fix after explosive growth27:08 – The truth behind their biggest revenue engine34:07 – Gary's brutal leadership lesson that changed everythingAbout the GuestGary Torrens is co-founder and COO of Soma Breath. He helped turn a visionary idea blending ancient breathwork, modern science, and music into a global certification platform with 4,000+ facilitators. With a background in physics, finance, and digital marketing, Gary is known for building systems that scale impact, not just revenue.
What if everything you know about starting and scaling a bank is wrong?In this Fan Favorite episode, Cameron Herold uncovers the real story behind WIO Bank with former COO Jamal Al Awadhi, a leader fueling the UAE's platform banking revolution. From Abu Dhabi's government-driven vision to the ferocious war for top talent, Jamal lays out how to break tradition, lead through chaos, and unlock transformative team culture.If you skip this episode, you'll miss out on first-hand insights into word-of-mouth-driven growth, the secret sauce for hiring resilient operators, and the unfiltered truth about working with sovereign wealth funds. Listen now to tap hard-won lessons you won't find anywhere else. Your next strategic leap could depend on it.Timestamped Highlights01:13 – The immigrant mindset shaping global leadership grit06:04 – The real reason WIO Bank launched in the UAE—exposed09:09 – Unpacking painful problems traditional banking ignored14:00 – Did regulations crush or catalyze digital banking?15:42 – Competing with legacy players: a blunt take on building trust18:04 – Why word-of-mouth blew up WIO's customer growth overnight26:57 – The resilience litmus test: how to hire for hypergrowth chaos37:02 – Inside the CEO-COO dynamic that keeps a rocketship on track43:36 – Game-changing leadership lessons that rewired Jamal's styleAbout the GuestJamal Al Awadhi was the Chief Operating Officer of WIO Bank, Abu Dhabi's breakout digital platform bank. With over a decade in marketing, strategy, and operations across industries, Jamal blends international perspective with deep regional expertise to drive game-changing innovation and hypergrowth at one of the UAE's fastest-scaling financial disruptors. Currently, he is the CEO of Al Hilal Bank.
Photo: More than an hour after the levee was breached, channels in the Siuslaw Estuary begin to fill up with a mix of fresh and salt water on May 29, 2026. (Brian Bull / KLCC) A major conservation project near the Oregon town of Florence has achieved its goal: connecting a large swath of restored farmland to the ocean. The Siuslaw Estuary is a 217-acre expanse that is expected to accommodate the return of salmon, lamprey, and native plants as it transforms with the tides. KLCC's Brian Bull reports. On a cool, misty morning at the estuary, Dan Kirk waves a burning bundle of sage as they walk through an old dairy farm site called the Waite Ranch. Kirk is the restoration manager for the Confederated Tribes of Coos, Lower Umpqua, and Siuslaw Indians (CTCLUSI). “I’ve been blessing the site almost daily, we really care about this project, and just putting as much intention and good thoughts and good feelings and gratitude as much as we can.” Besides the tribes, members of the Siuslaw Watershed Council and McKenzie River Trust gathered to witness something historic. Margaret Treadwell of the McKenzie River Trust watched a towering excavator crawl towards an earthen levee. It held back the Siuslaw River from the estuary. “It's really exciting, I have never seen a levee breach before.” After the excavator broke apart the levee, brackish water surged in immediately. People cheered. CTCLUSI Chief Doug Barrett watched as the reformed farmland became submerged. “I kinda got goosebumps. It's been a long time comin'.” The restoration work took nearly three years and $15 million. Barrett shared its new name. “Now it's called haich ikt' at'uu. Haich ikt' at'uu is the ‘heart of the river’, and so this is a pretty awesome place now to call our home. Just awesome to see the water coming in, knowing that the salmon and lamprey could come in here and hide from all of our predators. It's a pretty good feeling.” Four hours later, a contingent of tribal council members arrived in “Lottie” a 32-foot long canoe. After crossing through the mouth of the newly-opened channel, the group sprinkled tobacco and tule seeds into the water. Members of the Confederated Tribes of Coos, Lower Umpqua and Siuslaw Indians paddle “Lottie” a 32-foot dugout canoe, towards the Siuslaw Estuary on May 29, 2026. (Photo: Brian Bull / KLCC) Jesse Beers, CTCLUSI cultural stewardship manager, lowered the remains of a salmon into the currents. “When we were in the channel there, almost brought tears to my eyes. Returned some salmon remains to let the Salmon People know it's a good place to come again. And fatten up and be healthy. It's just an amazing experience.” The White House has nominated a citizen of the Klamath Tribes to lead the Indian Health Service (IHS). The nomination comes after more than a year without a Senate-confirmed director at the agency responsible for providing health care to Native communities across the country. The White House this week nominated Mark Cruz of Oregon to serve as IHS director. If confirmed by the Senate, Cruz would oversee an agency that provides health care services to approximately 2.8 million American Indians and Alaska Natives through federal, tribal, and urban Indian health programs. The nomination was announced June 1. Cruz currently serves as Senior Advisor to Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Native health issues. He became one of the highest-ranking Native officials in the department after being sworn into the position last year. Native health advocates say the nomination is significant because IHS has operated without a permanent director since January 2025. The agency continues to face challenges including workforce shortages, aging facilities, and growing health care demands in tribal communities. Get National Native News delivered to your inbox daily. Sign up for our daily newsletter today. Download our NV1 Android or iOs App for breaking news alerts. Check out today’s Native America Calling episode Friday, June 5, 2026 — The life of Chief Powhatan and the fight to preserve his birthplace
Are you secretly running on empty, wondering if burnout is targeting you next?In this episode, Alen Voskanian, COO of Cedars-Sinai Medical Network and author, pulls back the curtain on the raw realities beneath operations leadership. From the constant grind of clinical environments to the personal toll of endless firefighting, Voskanian exposes why burnout hits high performers hardest and how ignoring your creative side can quietly sabotage your impact. This isn't just about wellness platitudes. It's a real-world look at chasing fulfillment, designing systems that beat chaos, and the unexpected arts that make leaders resilient.If you're a COO (or run with one), you can't afford to miss these insights. The game has changed. Listen now or risk staying stuck in cycles that will bury both your team and your spirit. This is the side of leadership nobody else is showing you.Sponsored byGenius Network - An exclusive community for highly successful entrepreneurs, connecting you with top-tier leaders, strategic insights, and powerful relationships to help you grow your business faster and smarter.Learn more: https://www.geniusnetwork.com/Timestamped Highlights00:25 – The real reason burnout is rampant among COOs and physicians04:12 – The under-the-radar roles that secretly prepared him for operations07:29 – Three unconventional ways to master leadership fast12:18 – Why stand-up comedy became his secret tool for resilience15:57 – The hidden danger in neglecting your creative life as a leader19:53 – Brutal realities of burnout nobody is willing to admit29:55 – How lean principles are quietly transforming healthcare operations39:09 – What people on their deathbeds taught him about fulfillment and regretAbout the GuestAlen Voskanian, MD, MBA, is the Vice President and COO of Cedars-Sinai Medical Network. A board-certified physician in Family Medicine and Hospice & Palliative Medicine, he's also an author and sought-after keynote speaker. Alen is known for transforming healthcare to improve access and quality. He holds degrees from UC Berkeley, UC Irvine, and an MBA from Indiana University. He's a former innovation advisor for CMS, a Cunniff-Dixon/Hastings Center Physician Award winner, and a Health Innovators Fellow with the Aspen Global Leadership Network.
Michael R. Caplan is the Chief Operating Officer of Lowenstein Sandler, where he oversees the firm's business, financial, and administrative operations. Before joining Lowenstein, Mike served as COO at an Am Law 50 firm for nearly a decade and spent years leading legal operations at Goldman Sachs and Marsh McLennan, giving him a client-side perspective most law firm COOs simply don't have. With more than 25 years of experience across accounting, financial services, and consulting, he has worked with more than 30 general counsels on data analytics, technology implementation, and law firm relationship management. His leadership has earned him recognition as one of the Financial Times North America's top five Legal Intrapreneurs, Legal Innovator of the Year from The Changing Lawyer Awards, and a spot on NJBIZ's Law Power List for two consecutive years. WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS EPISODE ABOUT HOW A CLIENT-FACING COO IS CHANGING THE BUSINESS OF LAW Law firm COOs typically manage operations and execute on what firm leadership puts forward. They respond to partners, oversee administration, and stay behind the scenes while lawyers own every client relationship. Even when clients have their own operational counterparts who would benefit from connecting with their law firm's business professionals, those introductions rarely happen. Michael Caplan has spent the last decade building a different model. At Lowenstein Sandler, he and his Business Enterprise Solutions Team work alongside lawyers in pitches, RFP negotiations, and client meetings, bringing expertise in pricing, technology, project management, and data analytics directly into the relationship. The approach requires internal trust, a firm culture that supports it, and the right people on both sides of the conversation. But when it works, clients get a partner that understands both the practice of law and the business of law, and the firm differentiates itself in ways that go beyond the legal work. In this episode of The Lawyer's Edge, Elise Holtzman talks with Michael Caplan of Lowenstein Sandler about what it looks like when business professionals are embedded in client development, how to build internal trust so lawyers bring operations leaders into client relationships, the financial discipline that separates good revenue from bad revenue, and where private equity and AI may reshape law firm operations in the years ahead. 2:43- How Mike's client-side experience at Goldman Sachs and Marsh McLennan shaped his approach 5:53 - Building the Business Enterprise Solutions Team (BEST) at Lowenstein 7:18 - Getting lawyers on board and building internal trust 8:55 - Showing wins to bring more lawyers into the model 9:27 - The financial side of the COO role and negotiating pricing with clients 12:49 - Where emerging partners need the most help on collections and client management 15:14 - What smaller and midsize firms should think about when building an operations team 20:02 - Non-lawyer ownership, private equity, and the MSO model in law firms 22:26 - AI, legal technology, and why firms that invest in business resources will be more profitable 27:22 - Why most COOs wouldn't do this podcast and what holds firms back 33:31 - What clients actually get from a firm that embeds operations into relationships 36:19 - Getting the right people in front of the right clients Mentioned in How a Client-Facing COO is Changing the Business of Law Lowenstein Sandler | LinkedIn Michael Caplan on LinkedIn Get connected with the coaching team: hello@thelawyersedge.com The Lawyer's Edge SPONSOR FOR THIS EPISODE This episode is brought to you by the coaching team at The Lawyer's Edge, a training and coaching firm that has been focused exclusively on lawyers and law firms since 2008. Each member of the team is a trained, certified, and experienced professional coach—and either a former practicing attorney or a former law firm marketing and business development professional. Whatever your professional objectives, our coaches can help you achieve your goals more quickly, more easily, and with significantly less stress. To get connected with your coach, fill out our contact form.
Preacher: Revd Eunice Choo, Abundant International Ministry Date: 31 May 2026, 8.30am Service
What if cutting half your team could be the secret to explosive growth?In this Fan Favorite episode, Cameron Herold sits down with Benjamin Surman, COO of Somewhere (formerly Support Shepherd), a company that rocketed from $1M to $25M and is still hungry for more. The conversation tackles the real-world, often-unspoken operational questions: When do you fire instead of hire? Where's the hidden margin in automation? Why are so many leaders clinging to headcount when systems could do the job faster, cheaper, and with less chaos?If you're addicted to the idea that bigger is always better, this episode will shake your assumptions. Miss it and risk drowning in legacy thinking while your competitors eat your lunch. Listen now for the strategic edge you won't hear anywhere else.Timestamped Highlights00:48 – The real reason behind a bold global rebrand02:29 – How one contractor quietly took the reins as COO08:54 – Why bootstrapping (not VC money) set the right culture11:00 – The micro-influencer lever that brings 4,000 referral partners13:25 – What no one tells you about hiring in Latin America17:41 – The $3M decision: Slashing 120 employees with zero regrets20:13 – Behind the curtain of an automated sales pipeline25:37 – The COO playbook for uncovering invisible inefficienciesAbout the GuestBenjamin Surman is the Chief Operating Officer of Somewhere, a hyper-growth headhunting agency revolutionizing global talent acquisition. With a relentless focus on automation and operational excellence, Benjamin Surman has scaled the business from $1M to over $25M in just three years.
Preacher: Venerable Daniel Wee, Archdeacon, Diocese of Singapore Date: 24 May 2026 (8.30am)
Preacher: Rt Revd Low Ji King, Bishop (Retired), Diocese of Singapore
What happens when a regulated fintech meets the wild swings of crypto and then gets acquired by a Web3 giant?In this no-fluff conversation, Cameron Herold sits face-to-face with Sung Choi, COO of CoinMe, just months after their high-stakes Polygon Labs acquisition. They get blunt about what it really takes to survive in crypto, how to lead through M&A chaos without losing your best people, and why AI is rapidly rewriting the rules of operational excellence.If you want to hear war stories and hard-earned lessons from the frontlines of scaling a volatile, regulated business, this is your episode. Don't risk missing the sharpest insights on leadership, remote culture, and how to stay relevant through uncertainty. Listen now for playbook-level takeaways you won't get anywhere else.This episode is brought to you by our Silver Sponsor, Next Level Growth.They help COOs and leadership teams build Elite Organizations through a proven, customizable framework built around the Five Obsessions of Elite Organizations.If you and your leadership team are ready to operate at the next level, take the Elite Organizations Assessment and receive a free 20-page customized report based on your answers, plus a complimentary one-hour coaching session with a Next Level Growth Partner and Business Guide to begin implementing tools that will help you build an even more elite business.Complete the assessment here to get started - nextlevelgrowth.com/cooassessmentTimestamped Highlights00:06 – The brutal reality of CoinMe's early hardware dreams11:10 – Why powering partners crushed owning infrastructure13:04 – “M&A is like polyamorous dating” and what nobody tells you17:14 – The tension of disclosure and keeping employees sane22:25 – A surprising pivot: from bitcoin hype to stablecoin utility26:29 – The regrets and rewards of abandoning office life30:26 – How “work from anywhere” delivers hidden productivity34:01 – Why AI is now their secret operating system44:23 – The one leadership skill every modern COO must masterAbout the GuestSung Choi is the Chief Operating Officer at CoinMe, a leading regulated platform for stablecoin and crypto payments. With full-stack experience in scaling teams and driving innovation, he steered CoinMe through its pivotal acquisition by Polygon Labs. Sung Choi is recognized for blending real-world grit with bleeding-edge tech in fintech.
In 2026, Asia Pacific's travel boom is reshaping airport strategy. While January saw a slight demand dip due to Lunar New Year shifting to February, IATA confirms a 5.2% global seat capacity expansion by March, signalling robust growth. This surge, with passenger numbers projected to double by 2043, forces airports to modernise aggressively. But as with many industry sectors turning to transforming to capture unpredictable market opportunities, a cornerstone of any transformation is being to tap the data that exists at their fingertips. Cxociety Research discourse with the C-suite community suggests that central to achieving any lasting transformation is achieving a unified, data-driven operation. In the case of the travel industry, it is moving away from siloed airside, terminal, and landside management. COOs are adopting AI for predictive disruption management and embedding energy optimisation to cut OPEX by up to 15%. The modern airport is no longer a transit hub but an intelligent, seamless, and ecosystem.In this PodChats for FutureCOO, we are joined by Philippe Arsonneau, Senior Vice President of Infrastructure Segment, Schneider Electric, who will help us make the case for unified, data-driven operations.1. Given that many airports currently run airside, terminal, and landside operations separately, what is our roadmap to intelligently unify these functions for complete situational awareness?2. With AI able to analyse millions of signals simultaneously, how can we best deploy it to predict disruptions and reduce delays, thereby improving passenger flow during peak travel seasons?3. How can we leverage AI-embedded energy management across all our buildings and assets to achieve up to 15% OPEX reduction while shrinking our carbon footprint?4. What new revenue opportunities can AI and data analytics unlock for our airport retailers, and how do we integrate these with passenger movement data?5. With passenger numbers forecast to double by 2043, how will our current infrastructure and technology scaling plans accommodate this long-term growth without compromising service?6. What interdependency models must we develop between airlines, ground handlers, and retailers to manage the growing complexities and traveller volumes smoothly?7. No discussion around modernisation and transformation can continue without addressing the security aspects of an operation. As airport modernise, how do we balance the need for seamless digital travel experiences (biometrics, wayfinding) with robust cybersecurity and passenger privacy?8. Based on IATA's January 2026 load factor of 83.9% for Asia Pacific, what key performance indicators should we track to continuously optimise both operational efficiency and passenger satisfaction throughout the terminal?9. What is your advice for airport operators striving to transform and modernising their operations in 2026?
Preacher: Pastor Mark Tho, Church of Our Saviour Date: 17 May 2026 (10.45am)
Why is revenue forecasting so difficult in agencies and project-based businesses?In this episode of The Fractional CFO Show, Adam Cooper speaks with Julia Longo, Group Finance Director at SAENTYS, about the operational and financial realities of forecasting revenue in a fast-moving creative consultancy environment.SAENTYS operates across the UK, France and Switzerland, supporting clients in the real estate, hospitality and destination sectors. Julia oversees finance across multiple entities and shares a practical, experience-led view of how forecasting, reporting and operational planning work inside an international agency business.The discussion explores the difference between billing forecasting and revenue forecasting, and why many businesses have strong visibility over invoicing and pipeline activity but still struggle to understand future profitability and utilisation properly.Adam and Julia discuss the challenges of managing constantly shifting project scopes, changing client deadlines, freelancer requirements and resource allocation, all while trying to maintain accurate financial reporting and forward-looking visibility.The episode also covers the importance of management accounts, KPI reporting, operational finance processes and cross-functional collaboration between finance, client services, operations and creative teams.Other topics covered include:Revenue forecasting vs billing forecastingFinancial planning in project-based businessesProfitability management for agenciesCash flow forecasting and pipeline visibilityResource planning and utilisation managementPSA systems and operational reportingFinance leadership in creative businessesInternational reporting and multi-entity finance operationsForecasting challenges in professional services firmsImproving financial visibility through better systems and processesTime tracking, project profitability and operational accountabilityManagement reporting for growing agenciesFinance transformation and process improvementForecasting uncertainty and decision-making with incomplete dataThe role of finance in supporting operational performanceJulia also shares insights from her non-traditional route into finance leadership, moving from a background in chemistry and operations into senior finance roles within the agency world. The conversation highlights why strong finance leaders in creative and professional services businesses need commercial awareness, operational understanding and the ability to work closely with non-finance teams.This is a practical conversation for agency founders, finance directors, COOs, management accountants, project-based businesses and professional services firms looking to improve forecasting accuracy, profitability, financial visibility and operational decision-making.Guest:Julia Longo - Group Finance Director at SAENTYSHosted by:Adam Cooper - ACC Finance SolutionsListen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and all major podcast platforms.#FinancialForecasting #RevenueForecasting #ManagementAccounts #CashFlowForecasting #Profitability #AgencyFinance #FinanceLeadership #OperationalFinance #ProfessionalServices #BusinessGrowth
Second week of May, what'd you miss in vet med?Texas VCPR makes MovesTwo new COOsVetSnap launches Smart LockerA tale of Two Quarters: ZTS and IDXXHelpful links:The Bird Bath substackIGNITE Veterinary Learning – Kit Club: Your Veterinary Practice's Best Team MeetingThe Bird Bath Terminal
Preacher: Revd Aaron Cheng, Vicar, St Matthew's Church Date: 10 March 2026 (8.30am)
Navin Gupta is the CEO of Viventium, a verticalized HCM platform purpose-built for the post-acute care market — serving home health, skilled nursing, and hospice providers. He's spent over a decade at the intersection of senior care and technology, with deep experience across EHR, revenue cycle management, and engagement platforms for senior living. Adam Lewis is the founder of Apploi and now GM of Talent and Workforce Management at Viventium following the February acquisition. He's been building HR tech since 2007 and grew Apploi into a leading recruiting, credentialing, onboarding, and scheduling platform for healthcare. Together, the combined company now serves 13,000+ provider organizations and is on a mission to fix workforce instability in the most demographically urgent corner of healthcare.We discuss:Why post-acute care is the most mission-critical — and most underserved — tech opportunity in healthcareThe four-part workforce crisis every operator is fighting: supply, utilization, retention, and complianceWhat the Apploi + Viventium acquisition unlocks that a five-year partnership couldn'tWhy hiring friction is a direct hit to revenue — and why staffing now sits with CEOs and COOs, not just HRThe case for purpose-built vertical platforms over retrofitted horizontal HCMThe Perks4Care acquisition, and why you cannot hire your way out of a retention problemWhere AI creates real leverage in caregiver hiring — and how to deploy it without losing the human touchThree audit questions every post-acute provider should ask their current vendor today—Brought to you by:Sage Growth Partners — Value-focused strategy and marketing for growth-driven healthcare organizations.—Where to find Jared:• X: https://x.com/jaredstaylor• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredstaylor/
What are the advantages of using fractional paralegals and staff in a law firm? Fractional paralegals and staff offer a cost-effective solution for law firms by reducing overhead costs, minimizing risk, and providing faster ramp-up time. These professionals bring years of experience, require no benefits or additional costs like workers’ compensation, and can adapt quickly to the firm’s needs. This model allows firms to access expertise without the commitment of a full-time hire, making it an attractive option for increasing capacity and profitability without the burden of a large payroll. What types of tasks are suitable for fractional positions in a law firm? Fractional professionals can handle a wide range of tasks that do not require court appearances. Common responsibilities include paralegal work, law clerk duties, administrative tasks, virtual executive assistant roles, and specialized consulting such as marketing, finance, or IT support. The flexibility of fractional positions allows firms to outsource specific functions based on their needs, providing a scalable solution to operational challenges without the commitment of a full-time hire. How do law firms ensure that fractional professionals stay productive during slow periods? Law firms can maximize the profitability of fractional staff by structuring agreements based on hours worked or tasks completed. For offshore employees on retainer, firms may pay a fixed amount regardless of workload, while onshore professionals may be paid hourly for work completed. This arrangement helps mitigate financial risks during slow periods, as firms only pay for services rendered, providing a cost-effective solution that aligns with the firm’s workload and budget. Where can law firms find qualified fractional professionals for their practice? Law firms can source fractional professionals through staffing agencies, referrals from trusted networks, or online platforms that connect freelancers with employers. For executive-level roles like fractional COOs or CMOs, networking within the legal community and vetting candidates based on references and experience is crucial. When hiring fractional attorneys or paralegals, firms can explore freelance attorney platforms or advertise on professional networks like LinkedIn to attract part-time legal professionals. Leveraging agency services can also streamline the hiring process and ensure access to a pool of qualified candidates for fractional positions.
To learn more about Breakthrough Academy, click here: https://trybta.com/EP269 Take our five minute quiz and get a custom Contractor Growth Scorecard: https://trybta.com/DL269 Most contractors didn't start a business to be trapped inside of it. Cameron Herold, the operational mind behind 1-800-GOT-JUNK's explosive scale from $2M to $106M, reveals the exact blueprint to turn your contracting company from a daily grind into a sellable, scalable asset.In this episode of Contractor Evolution, Cameron breaks down why most contractors get stuck between $1M and $10M, what systems need to be in place before you can step out of the day-to-day, and the key hires that actually add enterprise value to your business. Whether you plan to sell someday or never, building like an owner (not an operator) changes everything.
What if the key to scaling your business wasn't more people, but ruthless focus combined with relentless speed?Cameron Herold teams up with Sean Kim, the former President and Chief Product Officer at Kajabi (ex-Amazon, ex-TikTok) and the current Chief Product Officer at HighLevel, to crack open the playbook that turns chaos into proven, compounding wins. Inside this conversation: why leaders who say “no” more often grow faster, how to make data the backbone of every decision, and the real story behind powering a $1.7B creator platform without burning out your team or chasing shiny objects.Listen now to dodge the trap of feature bloat, hiring sprees, and slow, clunky execution. These are unfiltered insights and backed-up frameworks from the inside that you simply won't get anywhere else, unapologetically blunt, deeply actionable, and designed for COOs and founders ready to scale, not just survive.Timestamped Highlights00:23 – Why Sean Kim said “hell no” to TikTok… at first. The surprising conversation that changed everything01:10 – “Discovery” is the real unlock… how it built TikTok's domination and sparked Sean Kim's obsession08:18 – What happens when you leave Amazon's scale for pure startup chaos… scrappy desks, no process, and surviving the LA office09:24 – The secret power of the “doc writing” culture… how writing, not slides, became TikTok and Amazon's unfair advantage12:24 – Ruthless speed… fail fast, double down faster, and outmaneuver every competitor. This is how TikTok really operates14:45 – Why Kajabi never bloats its teams… and how knowing exactly when to hire is a massive competitive edge17:13 – The impact calculator… predicting revenue, retention, and customer wins before a single feature ships25:40 – How to crush “feature creep” and avoid turning your SaaS into a Frankenstein's monsterAbout the GuestSean Kim was previously the President and Chief Product Officer of Kajabi, the all-in-one platform powering $1.7B+ in annual creator revenue. He previously led product teams at TikTok and Amazon Prime, shaping global growth strategies and a customer-obsessed culture. With a reputation for world-class execution and a bold, systems-driven mindset, Sean stands out as a top operator for scale-minded founders and COOs. He is currently the Chief Product Officer at HighLevel.
In this latest episode of Executive Function, Brett sits down with Christopher Payne, who spent a decade as President and COO at DoorDash, helping scale the company from roughly 70 employees to the dominant food delivery platform in the US. Before DoorDash, Christopher held senior operating roles at Amazon and eBay, where he led a sweeping overhaul of marketplace search. In this conversation, he unpacks what it actually takes to run an atoms-based business versus a software company, shares his "plate spinning" framework for allocating executive attention across a complex org, and makes the case for top-down goal setting over the bottom-up alternative. In today's episode, we discuss: How prior industry experience can be a liability when you're trying to reinvent the market How executives can practically focus their attention to stay close to product details What charisma actually looks like in executives—and why it's a staple trait to have The business case for setting ambitious goals top-down, not bottom-up References: Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ Cheesecake Factory: https://www.thecheesecakefactory.com/ Cursor: https://cursor.com/ Dartmouth College: https://home.dartmouth.edu/ David Risher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdavidrisher DoorDash: https://www.doordash.com/ eBay: https://www.ebay.com/ Granola: https://www.granola.ai/ Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/ Jason Kilar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonkilar Jeff Bezos: https://x.com/JeffBezos Lyft: https://www.lyft.com/ Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/ Tinder: https://tinder.com/ Tony Xu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xutony Travis Kalanick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/traviskalanick Uber: https://www.uber.com/ University of Oregon: https://www.uoregon.edu/ Wharton School: https://www.wharton.upenn.edu/ Where to find Christopher Payne: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherpayne Twitter/X: https://x.com/chrispa Where to find Brett: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-berson-9986094/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/brettberson Where to find First Round Capital: Website: https://firstround.com/ First Round Review: https://review.firstround.com/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/firstround YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FirstRoundCapital This podcast on all platforms: https://review.firstround.com/podcast Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 00:14 Why atoms businesses challenge bits executives 02:35 Hiring executives with a builder mentality 06:52 Great executives never outgrow the details 08:05 How ciabatta bread revealed a core DoorDash issue 10:48 How executives can scale their own impact 14:22 One-size-fits-all management is a myth 19:01 Enduring business lessons from Jeff Bezos 20:56 “I was fired from Tinder after six months” 25:38 Why specializing too early is a leadership trap 27:41 Are competitive cultures essential for success? 31:00 Lessons from Amazon's hypergrowth 35:20 Why having industry experience can be a liability 38:46 Companies spend too much time on job interviews 40:19 The skills executives need for hypergrowth 43:34 Why AI will likely flatten organizations 45:20 Teaching COO 101: What it takes to be world-class 50:55 Why bottom-up goal setting kills ambition 55:29 How charismatic leaders help teams in tough times 58:23 The number-one sign of high-functioning executive teams 1:02:02 How first-time COOs can increase their chance of success
Lumber prices are holding at $5.23 but don't get too comfortable — 2x4 #2 is getting scarce and construction input costs are up nearly 5% year over year, with crude petroleum doing the most damage (Natalie's paying $148 to fill her diesel tank, which is its own kind of tragedy). The Montreal Wood Convention drew a big crowd with Canada-US tariffs as the unofficial theme, Mirax is firing up the former Errington Cedar sawmill in a rare piece of good news for the Pacific Northwest, and Goodfellow posted a Q1 net loss blaming a cold winter and high household debt. It was also a banner week for COOs — three promotions, one truly excellent headshot. Chelsea closes with a genuine ask for the North American Forest Foundation, which has 1,300 schools on a waitlist for lumber education kits and needs the industry to show up. Mortgage rates dipped to 6.3%, dopamine detoxes are being planned, and a Tesla met a tree on a country road. Standard Friday. If you got something out of this episode, subscribe so you never miss a week of lumber news, light chaos, and the occasional unsolicited life update. Leave us a review — it genuinely helps more people in the industry find the show. And if you want to reach us directly, we're at lumberslingers@gmail.com.
Ever wonder why some COOs quietly double revenue while others burn out cleaning up someone else's mess?Cameron Herold unpacks the “second in command” reality with Rick Marini, serial entrepreneur, private equity veteran, and former COO powerhouse at iconic brands like Grindr. They dive into the realities most leaders dodge: gutting toxic teams, the cost of misaligned culture, and the real career advantage of NOT being CEO. You'll get the battle-tested playbook for earning team trust, breaking through stagnant growth, and building companies where A-players fight to stay.Miss this episode, and you risk leading a team that resents you, losing your top talent, or—worse—sleepwalking into irrelevance while your competition surges ahead. Listen now before your window to upgrade your influence and execution closes. This is unfiltered COO intelligence you won't find anywhere else.Timestamped Highlights15:05 – How do you fix a company doing $100M with a 1.8-star Glassdoor? The turnaround playbook starts here.17:15 – Three straight owners, one legendary LGBTQ brand: The wild truth about trust-building at Grindr20:08 – Held hostage for a million? Why Rick Marini and team had to moderate user content—and what it taught the company21:04 – The one line that made an exec break down in the NYSE lobby, and how you really know your team would run through walls for you25:16 – A-players vs. B-players: The uncomfortable signs you're settling, and how to actually spot (and hire) difference-makers31:08 – Do you really have the right COO? How private equity calls BS on CEO/COO dynamics42:00 – With AI moving this fast, how do you NOT get blindsided? The war room approach to offense vs. defense46:06 – Mentorship, “work from home,” and why Gen Z will lap you if you hide behind ZoomAbout the GuestRick Marini is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Catapult Capital and the Co-Founder, President and COO of Rails, and a renowned operator, investor, and board leader with over 25 years scaling and transforming businesses. Previously CEO/COO at Grindr and Rails, Rick specializes in high-stakes turnarounds, talent strategy, and innovative culture design for tech and consumer brands.
Ever feel like you're drowning in urgent tasks and legacy processes, wondering how real COOs actually turn chaos into clarity?Meet Arnold le Rutte, COO of The Virtual Hub, COO Alliance member and bronze partner, who went from retail entrepreneur to running the nerve center of a 300+ strong offshore team. Together with our new podcast co-host Lindsay Smith - appearing in her first episode in the co-host role - they pull the curtain back on ruthless prioritization, AI survival strategies, and the misunderstood art of building bulletproof, scalable systems that actually unlock human potential. No corporate platitudes, just real stories on managing explosive turnover, navigating the tricky CEO handoff, and how the best operators weaponize client-side empathy.Listen now, or risk drowning in the overwhelm that kills too many leaders. These are insights you will not find on LinkedIn, and you'll wish you'd heard them before your next hire, your next pivot, or your next fire to put out.Timestamped Highlights01:19 – The pizza delivery gig that rewired Arnold le Rutte's approach to problem-solving (and what it means for COOs today)03:32 – What really happens inside a 100+ person offshore operation and why most clients completely miss the point06:39 – Bittersweet business: when growth isn't enough, and the turning point that led to a radical career shift11:23 – The game-changing realization about SME clients that upended The Virtual Hub's business model15:41 – How to blow up burnout: Supporting teams, slicing admin, and warning signs leaders mess up21:55 – The AI smokescreen: Why true capacity-building is about brains, not bots26:58 – The one question every client gets wrong about outsourcing and how Arnold le Rutte reframes it for explosive leverage44:31 – Undercover boss confessions: The invisible complexity behind every “simple” successAbout the GuestArnold le Rutte is COO of The Virtual Hub, a COO Alliance member and bronze partner, and a powerhouse operations executive and former founder who scaled retail and wholesale businesses before taking the reins at one of the world's leading offshore virtual professional firms. Known for blending client empathy with brutal operational clarity, he transforms complex, people-centric businesses by driving process, deep tech adoption, and relentless culture-building across borders.
What would happen if you finally ditched micromanagement and actually let your teams run wild, faster, riskier, and more creative than you'd ever dare on your own?Ben Plomion, COO of Pearl AI, joins Sivana Brewer for a sharp, no-fluff deep dive into the gritty reality of leading in markets where mistakes happen fast and growth is non-negotiable. Drawing from cross-functional battle scars in marketing, ops, and tech, Ben unpacks how he leveraged his CMO chops to become a next-level COO, why most leaders fail at “connecting the dots,” and exactly how he's turning AI into his secret weapon for culture and operational scale.If you're tired of theory and ready for the untold COO playbook that frees you from indecision, protects you from hidden traps, and gives you unfair access to what the best operator-leaders are actually doing, listen now. Stalling means losing team trust, missing radical growth, and getting left behind.Timestamped Highlights[00:03:42] – The shocking “dumpster” pitch that clinched Ben's COO job—would you take this text?[00:05:10] – Connect the dots or die: Why leaders who only skim the surface always lose big[00:07:26] – Zero in-house finance, outsourced chaos—how Ben plugged the leaks before it was too late[00:10:51] – From chief cook to master delegator: The brutal art of giving up “employee benefits” and focusing where it matters[00:14:42] – CEO second-in-command: The secret archetypes and why most COOs get it wrong[00:18:29] – CMO to COO crossover: The superpowers that every operator should steal from marketing[00:21:23] – Ditching values for operating principles—radical new rules for building a creative, AI-savvy team[00:32:19] – “Let them run”: The unorthodox motto that keeps Ben's teams breaking the rules, beating churn, and staying aheadAbout the GuestWith over two decades of experience in marketing, commercial and operational leadership across Artificial Intelligence, Computer Vision, and Blockchain, Ben Plomion is the Chief Operating Officer at Pearl—the leading AI Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) company in dentistry. Prior to Pearl, he served as Chief Marketing Officer at Dibbs, an Amazon-backed tokenization-as-a-service (TaaS) platform. He was previously Chief Growth & Marketing Officer at GumGum, where he played a pivotal role in advancing AI-driven contextual advertising. Earlier in his career, Ben led global digital media efforts at both Magnite and GE Capital. A Forbes contributor and trusted advisor to companies like Deanna.ai, PebblePost, and #Paid, he is also a committed educator in the realms of AI, marketing, and Web3.
In this episode of BRAVE COMMERCE, Rachel Tipograph and Sarah Hofstetter speak with Lara Vandenberg, CEO and Founder of Assemble, which connects brands with senior freelance marketing talent on demand. Lara shares why traditional marketing organizational structures are breaking down, and how leading CMOs are rethinking how work actually gets done.They explore the shift from fixed roles to flexible capabilities, the impact of overhiring and budget pressure, and why the biggest issue facing marketing teams today isn't talent, it's systems. Lara also unpacks the rise of new roles like marketing COOs and process improvement analysts, and what it takes to connect fragmented workflows, teams, and technologies to drive performance.Key takeawaysFlexible talent models are replacing traditional hiring and agency structures.Systems—not talent—are the biggest constraint on marketing performance.Winning teams align how work gets done with how consumers actually discover and shop. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Show Notes: Lauri Euren, founder of Operating.app, explains that Operating is a tool for consulting firms or professional services that are growing and need help with staffing, internal resourcing, and month-end closes. The tool handles the workflow from time sheets to invoicing, supporting delivery across multiple projects. Operating.app Explained Lauri emphasizes that Operating is not a CRM system and can integrate with existing CRMs like Salesforce, HubSpot, and Pipedrive. Lauri explains that Operating is not for actual sales execution but for back-end processes like staffing, time sheets, and invoicing. The tool also monitors project health, margins, and financials, providing tracking and insights into project burn rates and utilization. Operating.app Demonstration Lauri demonstrates the main dashboard, which includes tabs for staffing, personal schedules, projects, and reports. Lauri describes the main entities in Operating: projects, people, and positions, and how they intersect to manage staffing and project assignments. Lauri explains the different sections and their functions. The dashboard includes pinned views for saved and shared views, time sheets for tracking hours, and various reporting options. Lauri highlights the importance of tailoring the use of Operating to different roles within the organization, such as consultants, COOs, and staffing managers. The invoicing feature generates invoices based on the invoicing schedule and billing type of the project. When saved, the invoice saves automatically to the accounting software used. Lauri explains that projects often come from CRMs like HubSpot or Salesforce and are enriched with metadata using AI tools like Copilot or GPT using the Operating MCP server and AI tools like Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini or Microsoft Copilot. Operating can handle different pricing structures, including per hour and fixed price models, and can model various types of work within the fixed price model. Planned vs Forecast Revenue Revenue Recognition The tool also includes revenue recognition features, allowing finance teams to track and recognize revenue accurately. Lauri mentions that Operating integrates with accounting tools like QuickBooks or NetSuite for billing and financial management. Clients Operating Serves Lauri discusses the ideal client size for Operating, typically starting from 10 people and scaling up to large firms with hundreds of consultants. The tool replaces spreadsheets and other point solutions for time tracking and resource planning. Lauri explains how Operating handles external consultants, tagging them differently in the system and managing their permissions and utilization. The tool allows for robust customization of permissions, ensuring that each user sees and edits only what they are allowed to. Managing a Project in Operating Lauri explains the end-to-end process of managing a project in Operating, from staffing to invoicing. The process includes adding a project, allocating team members, setting budgets, and tracking time sheets. Operating provides real-time profitability calculations and margin effects for projects. The tool allows for the creation of invoices based on time entries and integrates with accounting tools for final billing. AI Integration with Operation Lauri highlights the AI integration with tools like Claude, allowing users to query and manage projects using natural language. The MCP server in Operating acts as an AI agent, consuming data and executing queries based on user permissions. Customers can build automated tasks and health checkers using Cloud Code and AI, enhancing efficiency and accuracy. The tool's flexibility and customization options make it suitable for various roles and project management needs. Pricing Model Lauri explains the current pricing model for Operating, which is $22 per person per month for the full module and $11-$13 for individual modules. The tool is designed to be more affordable than enterprise competitors, making it a scalable solution for growing consulting firms. Lauri provides information on how interested parties can start a free trial or book a demo on the Operating website. Timestamps: 0:02: Introduction and Overview of Operating App 02:44: Features and Functionality of Operating 06:39: Detailed Walkthrough of Operating Dashboard 08:15: Integration with CRMs and AI Tools 13:39: Client Segment and Implementation 18:26: End-to-End Project Management in Operating 26:03: AI Integration and Customization 27:57: Pricing and Availability Links: Operating Website: https://www.operating.app/ MCP Server (Use directly in Claude, ChatGPT...): https://www.operating.app/blog-posts/ai-consulting-mcp-server Lauri's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eurenl/ This episode on Umbrex: Unleashed is produced by Umbrex, which has a mission of connecting independent management consultants with one another, creating opportunities for members to meet, build relationships, and share lessons learned. Learn more at www.umbrex.com. *AI generated timestamps and show notes.
Ever secretly wondered if success, early retirement, a big exit, and the CEO chair are as good as it looks? What if the “dream” of ownership leaves you restless, searching for meaning, and itching to build again?This episode pulls back the curtain on the real journey: Marcus Hantla, a relentless builder who's seen both sides, reveals the wild emotional highs of exits and the raw, daily grind of COO life inside Contractor Foreman, a fast-growing SMB construction SaaS. He and Sivana get blunt about AI hype, hands-dirty delegation, and the gut-check moments that test even the toughest operators.The stakes: Stop winging it in your own career, team, or transformation or risk getting left behind. Listen now to confront the myths of growth, find new ways to thrive, and get the gritty, exclusive playbook you won't hear in sanitized TED Talks.Timestamped Highlights03:41 – What no one warns you about early retirement and the uncomfortable truth about waking up “free.”06:43 – How a random plumber changed Marcus's entire career (on his very own porch).09:10 – The COO/CEO “deciding dance” and why true empathy is a secret growth weapon.14:40 – Real talk: Losing a debate with the CEO (and why not every “brilliant” idea should win).17:25 – AI sales calls, live demos vs. real humans—what actually works right now.20:55 – Is the “beautiful” user interface dead? Why the next SaaS war is about simplicity, not design.26:14 – The dangerous side of AI consensus: Can chasing “truth” kill the next big breakthrough?35:03 – The sobering math of executive gratitude (and the crisis no leadership manual covers).About the GuestMarcus Hantla is the COO of Contractor Foreman, a leading construction management software platform engineered for small and mid-market builders and contractors. With 25+ years in construction and tech—plus multiple exits—Marcus is renowned for his hands-on leadership and hard-won insights at the intersection of trades, SaaS, and rapid growth.
The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Doug Baker, VP of Industry Relations at the Food Marketing Institute. As the food industry association, FMI works with and on behalf of the entire industry to advance a safer, healthier and more efficient consumer food supply. FMI is a champion for the food industry and the issues that make a difference to our members' fundamental mission of feeding and enriching society. The reach and impact of our work is extensive, ultimately touching the lives of over 100 million households in the United States and representing an $800 billion industry with nearly 6 million employees.Follow Doug Baker on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debaker/ We ask Doug these questions:How has your deep, hands-on operational background informed your view on where the grocery industry is today regarding its historical struggle with technology adoption?What is the origin story of GroceryLab, and why was Detroit chosen as the backdrop for this launchpad?How will the hands-on, think-tank format of GroceryLab actively help merchants and technologists co-design a 'zero-friction grocery ecosystem'?Yet, you still talk about the friction between bold ideas and execution. With all that money flowing, where is the execution friction happening the most right now in the grocery sectorHow will GroceryLab help bridge this AI divide so retailers and brands can speak the same technological language?How does GroceryLab plan to tackle the practical integration of technology directly into the aisles?How do we move the grocery industry away from legacy paper coupons and pure trade-spend into truly predictive, relevant engagement?GroceryLab is bringing Chief Merchants, COOs, CIOs, CMOs, and Retail Media leaders all into the same room. How do you force these disparate functions to actually co-develop solutions together?How did the early, unfiltered insights from these industry leaders help shape the specific, hard-hitting themes you will be tackling at the Gem Theatre?What actionable insights or blueprints will they have in their hands to prove this was a game-changing investment?Follow FMI on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fmithefoodindustryassociation/Follow FMI online at: https://www.fmi.org/CPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj's Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual's use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast.
What if the single greatest unlock for scaling your company has nothing to do with strategy, and everything to do with how much you care?In this gut-level conversation, Sivana Brewer sits down with Amit Shah, COO of Virta Health, a company on a mission to reverse metabolic disease in a billion people. They reveal the raw mechanics, hard decisions, and emotional realities of building a culture where real feedback, personal mission, and relentless impact actually drive bottom-line results. Expect stories that challenge your comfort zone, a blueprint for turning skeptics into true believers, and a rare glimpse into what makes teams (and COOs) last a decade or more through hyper-growth.If you're tired of surface-level advice and want the proven, exclusive tools to protect your culture (and your soul) as you scale, hit play now. The risk of mediocre leadership has never been higher, and these lessons simply can't wait.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – The rebel truth about why people don't care what you know until something shocking happens[00:03:23] – Inside Virta's billion-person mission and the radical evidence that built unwavering belief[00:06:57] – The jeans, Disneyland, and moment a clinical trial changed thousands of lives[00:13:17] – The single conversation that blew away a hardened healthcare skeptic[00:17:13] – Why LIVE patient stories kick off every company meeting and what that does to culture[00:21:24] – How Virta built a team that actually sticks (and outgrows their own roles)[00:25:41] – When your job changes every 12 months: The hidden playbook for surviving hyper-growth[00:33:24] – The care vs. candor tightrope—how to love your team while pushing for relentless resultsAbout the GuestAmit Shah is the Chief Operating Officer of Virta Health, where he leads growth, product development, and patient care delivery for a hyper-growth company that's transforming metabolic disease care. With a track record spanning executive roles at Paladina Health, McKinsey, and Amazon, plus roots as a mission-driven entrepreneur, Amit is known for building high-performance teams that scale with heart and precision.
Ever feel overwhelmed by growth or haunted by the worry that your team's success might derail the mission?This is your inside pass. Sivana Brewer dives deep with Dan Murphy, COO of D1 Training, to uncover what really separates winning brands from chaotic burnout. From scaling a nationwide fitness franchise by 100+ units fast, to building a culture where passion crushes bureaucracy, and tough metrics make or break careers, this episode exposes the choices, pivots, and vulnerable moments every top operator faces.Listen now if you want to avoid stalling your company's growth, escape the COO loneliness trap, and get proven, unconventional takeaways on reinventing your playbook in a frantic market. This is real talk you won't find anywhere else, straight from the second in command.Timestamped Highlights[00:01:01] – The wild origin story: Losing a pro career, the CEO's game-changing invention, and how it launched a new franchise model[00:03:39] – Why D1 threw out the playbook and planted flags everywhere plus what they learned scaling from 1 to 160 locations[00:05:17] – The counterintuitive “avatar” that drives most revenue and why it's probably NOT who you think[00:09:57] – How the right “spark” can reveal your company's true North—advice for COOs looking for their next big thing[00:13:37] – The brutal scale-up pivot: When to walk away from side businesses, passive owners… and old friends[00:16:11] – Outsourcing secrets, bringing it all back in-house, and the moment when cost control meets franchisee happiness[00:21:28] – The biggest “aha” that changed their growth trajectory—what actually gets local buyers to care and buy in[00:25:34] – When loyalty isn't enough: Handling hard conversations with passionate, under-performing leaders[00:27:48] – Managing egos, CEO/COO conflict, and why “freedom to dream” requires radical focusAbout the GuestDan Murphy is the Chief Operating Officer of D1 Training, a national franchise leading the youth and community athletic training space. A former Division I soccer player and West Point graduate, Dan has decades of leadership experience spanning military and high-growth franchise operations. He's known for his relentless execution, passion-driven leadership style, and community-building expertise helping D1 scale from a single Nashville gym to 160+ locations and counting.
Ever question if you're truly moving the needle in a high-stakes, fast-growth role or just treading water in chaos?In this unfiltered replay, Cameron Herold gets radically real with Asana's COO, Anne Raimondi, a powerhouse operator with a track record scaling iconic SaaS brands from eBay to Zendesk. Their candid conversation delivers hard-hitting truths and breakthrough strategies for COOs, VPs of Ops, and ambitious seconds-in-command. From conquering boardroom friction to onboarding at scale, and from navigating imposter syndrome to wielding conscious leadership, this episode is your no-nonsense roadmap to building culture, resilience, and runaway growth.The window for operational greatness closes quickly. Don't risk getting left behind as your competitors dial in these proven systems. Press play now for a front-row seat to rare, real-world tactics you won't hear anywhere else.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – Why this Asana episode is a record-breaking, fan-favorite comeback[00:03:02] – The one skill that built Anne's “uncommon” career and why she doubled down on curiosity[00:05:33] – A dot-com crash, a diamond startup, and how obsession with customer pain points kept Anne in the tech arena[00:07:47] – Is product obsession really the COO's unfair advantage? Anne reveals what sets true ops leaders apart[00:13:14] – How Anne's onboarding at Asana destroyed all her old assumptions about exec transitions[00:15:10] – The joy of “extra delights”—what most SaaS products miss about human motivation[00:25:34] – The real source of company politics (and how transparency kills it dead)[00:44:38] – Anne's most vulnerable answer: How she faces down imposter syndrome and winsAbout the GuestAnne Raimondi is the Chief Operating Officer of Asana, a global leader in work management software empowering teams to orchestrate their work with clarity and impact. With 20+ years scaling technology giants, including senior roles at Zendesk, TaskRabbit, SurveyMonkey, and eBay, Anne brings deep boardroom and operational wisdom to fast-growth SaaS. She's also a lecturer at Stanford Graduate School of Business and has served on the boards of Gusto, Patreon, and more. Anne is renowned for her mission to build workplaces that blend high performance with humanity.
Zero100's Forum brought CSCOs and COOs to the Arizona desert to tackle the question keeping operations leaders up at night: how do you scale AI when insights outpace execution? Caroline Chumakov and Justin Gillebo (Senior Directors, Research & Advisory) sit down with Sophia Pouzyrev (Account Executive) to unpack the candid conversations that defined the event – from the Rt Hon Sir Tony Blair's insights on the unwinding of 30 years of globalization to Scott Galloway's challenge on designing work for Gen Z. The verdict: leaders have moved past pilots. 2026 is about production, orchestration, and building talent that can keep pace with technology. If you're stuck between insight and action, this debrief captures what's actually working.
Time to View Failure Differently As a Second-In-Command, you're probably a high performer who wasn't allowed to make mistakes out loud throughout your career. Maybe you were labeled "gifted" as a kid and have been living up to that ever since. But here's the reframe: mistakes are a tax you pay on your way to growth. Entrepreneurs view failure completely differently than you do because trying and failing teaches what works. When you make mistakes (and you will), the key is owning them immediately by answering two questions: can I fix this and how, and how did this happen? Not justification, but a practical postmortem leading with humility and vulnerability. Entrepreneurs are anesthetized to bad news, and when you bring problems forward with ownership, they have the network and resources to help fix issues. The challenge is to be more open with your mistakes and more vulnerable with both your entrepreneur and your team. You'll grow, and it will inspire your team to take ownership without needing constant confirmation. You'll hear all about: 00:51 - Today's topic: Mistakes as a second-in-command and why they're the fastest path to growth 01:06 - Origin story: Coaching client's manager outsourcing all thinking to ChatGPT and why that prevents promotability 01:43 - Developing strategic thinking comes down to reps, and those reps are really mistakes 02:02 - Mistakes are data, learning, and understanding - AI can't give you that decision tree to reflect on 02:21 - Training insight: How entrepreneurs view failure differently than the rest of us 02:37 - Many entrepreneurs depend on failure - trying and failing teaches what works and what doesn't 02:58 - Your job as second-in-command: Help CEO understand outcomes and consequences to make informed decisions 03:10 - Reality check: You didn't get to this role by failing - you weren't allowed to make mistakes out loud 03:26 - The "gifted kid" curse: Living up to high-performer expectations your whole life 03:34 - Personal story: Changing an A-minus to an A-plus with a pen, then immediately feeling guilty 04:08 - Reframe: Think of mistakes like a tax you pay on your way to growth 04:21 - Important caveat: Brand new to position or company = less margin for error while proving yourself 04:34 - If you're established or promoted from within, you have room to be riskier 04:35 - What Megan learned the hard way: Trying to be a "membrane" to keep bad news from the entrepreneur 04:57 - Cognitive dissonance: Making mistakes while watching others get terminated for theirs 05:04 - The confession: "I made mistakes I may have fired myself for, and I'd seen others fired for less" 05:14 - The key question: Why wasn't I fired? Why wasn't my CEO even really mad? 05:29 - The two critical elements: Learning from mistakes AND owning every mistake 05:40 - The immediate questions to answer when you cause a problem: Can I fix this and how? How did this happen? 06:00 - Not justification, but practical postmortem - leading with humility and vulnerability 06:20 - When you can't answer those questions, you might not have enough experience yet to analyze what happened 06:32 - Entrepreneurs are anesthetized to bad news - there was never a bad reaction directed at her 06:50 - "As an entrepreneur myself, I can tell you we don't know what we're doing either, but we have the network" 07:03 - Real example: Banking issue led to facilitated training with a banker connection 07:18 - When you present as perfect, you're setting the culture for those who report to you 07:42 - Being resistant to your own mistakes sets that expectation for your team and creates bottlenecks 07:54 - If your team is fearful of failure, they bring everything to you for confirmation 08:10 - High-detail personalities naturally do this, but if EVERYONE does it, work slows down 08:26 - The self-fulfilling stress cycle: Extra pressure on you to get everything right Rate, review & follow on Apple Podcasts Click Here to Listen! OR WATCH ON YOUTUBE If you haven't already done so, follow the podcast to make sure you never miss a value-packed episode. Links mentioned in the episode: Second First Membership Second First One-on-One Coaching Second First on Instagram Second First on LinkedIn Megan Long on LinkedIn
When was the last time you felt your vision misunderstood, your partnership undervalued, or your operational roadmap tangled? If you're a COO wrestling with translating big ideas into real impact, this conversation is your lifeline.Sivana Brewer welcomes Stephanie Kauffman, Chief Operating Officer at Melanoma Research Alliance, for an urgent episode that lifts the veil on what actually moves the needle for COOs. From converting financial “legends” into game-changing board allies to crafting story-driven partnerships that triple outcomes, you'll hear how real-world translation builds trust fast, drives innovation, and prevents career-stalling burnout.Press play now. Don't risk getting stuck in your leadership bubble. Every minute here arms you with exclusive, proven techniques to connect, influence, and scale before someone else beats you to it.Timestamped Highlights[00:10] – A stunning perspective shift: why “second in command” is really “dual in command” for COOs everywhere[00:02:25] – The myth of melanoma: deadliest form of skin cancer, massive underestimation, and breakthrough facts COOs should know[00:08:21] – Surprising everyday tips for preventing melanoma beyond just sunscreen (plus one you've likely never heard)[00:10:39] – How legendary finance leaders shaped Stephanie's radical “private equity” nonprofit strategy—what every COO can steal[00:18:49] – The $12.7 million secret: bold partnerships that defied board skepticism (and the power of gaming for social impact)[00:27:11] – Data-driven storytelling for buy-in: How Stephanie translates emotional conviction into actionable board wins[00:31:47] – Professional translation: the vital COO role in turning CEO vision into operational clarity for every stakeholder[00:43:15] – The “3 Bs” formula and simplifying the complex: brief, brilliant, be done—your solution to communication chaosAbout the GuestStephanie Kauffman is Chief Operating Officer of the Melanoma Research Alliance, the world's largest nonprofit funder of melanoma research. Known for high-impact storytelling and cross-industry partnership wins, she previously held SVP roles at Universal Studios and Breast Cancer Research Foundation. Stephanie is recognized for translating visionary ideas into scalable operations, bringing decades of experience across finance, media, and biotech.
Ever felt like you're carrying the weight of growth, but struggling to shift your company from band-aids to real, sustainable breakthroughs?Meet Nicki Baty, COO at Freshpet, who's rewriting the playbook for second-in-command leadership inside a rocketship culture. In this revealing conversation, Nicki Baty opens up to host Sivana Brewer about pioneering a COO role from scratch, installing trust (in teams and at home), and building a business fueled by missionary drive, not mercenaries.Explore how to turn constant change into your secret weapon, earn buy-in when the North Star keeps moving, and design a culture that scales with speed without chaos.You can't afford to run on autopilot or yesterday's wins. Discover the steps that separate successful COOs from those stuck in a cycle of busyness. Listen now for exclusive insights you can't afford to miss. The next wave of growth is already here, and this episode holds the edge.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] - The one guarantee for every COO—how to win when change is constant[03:41] - Missionaries vs. mercenaries: Why purpose-driven teams deliver differently[07:40] - Moving a family across continents for growth—what business leaders really learn[12:11] - “Making room in the boat”: Building trust, networks, and resilient teams on the fly[19:12] - Nicki reveals how to plan post-onboarding in a brand new leadership role[23:35] - Finding your “most valuable pet parent” and reshaping the company around them[28:35] - The surprising power of Freshpet's pioneering spirit—and what big companies still get dead wrong[37:13] - The real difference between strategic priorities and tactical noise (and how most teams get stuck)About the GuestNicki Baty is the Chief Operating Officer at Freshpet, a company redefining the pet nutrition industry with its human-grade, refrigerated pet food. Formerly President and General Manager of Hill's Pet Nutrition US (Colgate-Palmolive), Nicki's career has spanned the globe—from the UK and Europe to Asia and the Americas. She is recognized for her track record in scaling organizations, her passionate belief in purpose-driven work, and her relentless focus on building trust and sustainable growth in fast-moving environments.
Ever feel the pull to “think like a CEO” while your founder instincts crave speed, risk, and fresh ideas? We sit down with Joseph Frost - idea guy, fractional futurist, and builder of multiple seven-figure businesses in parallel - to unpack why the traits that start companies rarely match the traits that scale them, and how to bridge that gap without losing your spark.We start with values and purpose - freedom, nonconformity, and a long journey toward create and inspire - then draw a clean line between three leadership phases: the founder who proves the model, the scaler who builds systems and teams, and the CEO who sets simple vision and delivers steady results. Joseph explains why so few people inhabit all three roles well, and how to time your evolution or your handoff. Along the way, we break down the rise of fractional leadership and why startups can now embed true C-suite execution from day one. Fractional CMOs, CFOs, and COOs aren't consultants; they're accountable leaders who compress learning curves and make senior talent accessible.From there, we get practical about talent and growth. Joseph shares how he develops two very different groups: veteran CMOs who must learn business development and prospecting; and distributed coordinators across countries who thrive with clear structures, peer feedback, and periodic in-person sessions. We explore the sales mindset every founder needs, the E-Myth path from technician to builder, and how to avoid half-finished projects by channeling creativity into the core flywheel, like using AI agents to amplify strategy instead of spinning up another standalone venture.Joseph closes with the habits that protect focus and resilience: daily journaling, short meditations, and a mantra forged after a life-changing health scare. The takeaway is simple and powerful. Let your creative energy start the fire, then use discipline, delegation, and development to keep it burning brighter.If this conversation helped clarify your next leadership move, follow the podcast, share it with a founder friend, and leave a quick review to tell us where you are on the founder-to-CEO journey.In this podcast you will learn about:• Values of freedom and nonconformity driving entrepreneurship• Purpose distilled to create and inspire• Founder, scaler, CEO as distinct leadership phases• Why many founders shouldn't become CEOs• Fractional executives as early leadership leverage• Peer groups plus fractionals for balanced growth• Developing veteran CMOs in sales and prospecting• Building remote teams with structure and periodic in-person time• Focusing creative energy on the core with AI as an enabler• Journaling and meditation as daily reset practicesHighlights:0:00Think Like A CEO Series Setup1:02Meet Joe Frost And His Purpose3:55Freedom, Nonconformity, And Entrepreneurship6:48The Seven-Business Vision8:44Founder Versus CEO Mindsets11:13When Do Titles Truly Fit13:58Skills To Grow Into CEO17:04Fractional Leadership Changes The Game20:00Developing Talent In Fractional Teams22:21Remote Development That Actually Works24:07Prospecting And Sales For Builders27:05The Gift And Cost Of Endless Ideas29:14Focus Systems And AI As Enabler31:00Journaling, Cancer, And Meditation34:10Closing Reflections And TakeawaysIf you were truly leading at the level your vision requires, what decision would you make this week?I provide strategic coaching for high-performing financial advisors, service-based business owners, and leaders who want coaching that goes beyond accountability. I partner with you to execute on your vision and focus on what truly drives results: executive presence, leadership development, scaling, and prioritization.The outcome: you realize your full potential, influence and inspire others, and lead a high-impact business that reflects your next-level goals.To explore if coaching is the right fit, email me at meet@kristinburke.com to schedule a discovery call.Connect with KristinLinkedInInstagramWebsiteGoal Setting Success CourseBreakout PlanConnect with JosephWebsiteLinkedIn
Are you trapped in operational chaos, fighting burnout, and searching for a formula that actually scales? You're not alone. This electrifying episode features Guillaume Bouvard, Co-founder, COO and CMO of Extend, as he sits down with Sivana Brewer to reveal the real-life victories and invisible battles behind explosive fintech growth. From his unusual rise at American Express to building a team of true experts (not just generalists), Guillaume exposes the proven rituals, painful lessons, and cultural shifts that unstick founders and COOs worldwide.If you've ever wrestled with hiring mistakes, boardroom pressure, or the fear of letting go, this conversation is your playbook for escaping overwhelm right now. Tune in for exclusive strategies you won't hear from the usual talking heads—and avoid the pain of staying stuck another quarter. Listen now, because your breakthrough can't wait and these field-tested insights are only found here.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – The daring anti-micromanagement view that reshaped a whole company's culture[00:07:08] – Why Guillaume became COO and what most founders never tell you about picking partners[00:09:12] – How a “no two days alike” mindset powers world-class operations without chaos[00:12:27] – The little-known boardroom rituals that drive results, build trust, and end nasty surprises[00:19:44] – Guillaume's radical philosophy for staying engaged, focused, and unshakable against daily setbacks[00:21:01] – The breakthrough hiring lesson that can rescue any leader from burnout (before it's too late)[00:28:14] – Steal-this-process: Monday all-hands, relentless transparency, and celebrating the hidden heroes[00:34:29] – Real-life wins: How a single empowered team member triggered a market wave using curiosityAbout the GuestGuillaume Bouvard is the Co-founder, Chief Operating Officer, and Chief Marketing Officer of Extend, a venture-backed digital credit card platform revolutionizing spend management for banks and businesses. With more than two decades of leadership across American Express and international fintech, Guillaume blends corporate discipline with disruptive startup agility. His obsession with hiring world-class talent, building intentional culture, and empowering true ownership makes him a sought-after voice for COOs ready to scale with clarity and conviction.
What if your next breakthrough isn't more hustle, but ruthless focus on what actually matters?Scott Levy, Founder and CEO of ResultMaps, joins Sivana Brewer for a candid, zero-fluff conversation on why most CEOs and COOs are drowning in distraction and what separates “second in command” leaders who skyrocket growth from those stuck grinding. They pull apart why ambitious teams spiral into task overload, the critical metrics every department truly needs, and the battle-tested rituals that free up your brain for high-stakes decisions.Ready to step off the treadmill of constant fires, endless meetings, and “yet another platform” promises? This episode exposes the cost of delay and throws you a direct path out, real systems, real clarity, real results. If you wait, you risk another year of burnout and missed breakthroughs. Press play now for inside strategies unavailable anywhere else.Timestamped Highlights[00:54] – Why “good” content became too dangerous for Speaker A to binge (and what that reveals about focus)[02:09] – The real operations heartbreaks hidden behind entrepreneurial success stories[07:09] – Why small teams will devour giants in the AI revolution (the Special Forces lesson nobody teaches MBAs)[10:34] – The shockingly simple hack for bypassing bloated CRMs and running your pipeline on autopilot[12:02] – How to extract a Vivid Vision in 30 minutes—no trust falls required[16:13] – “Eff your feelings, follow the plan?” Dissecting the truth (and limits) of systemizing emotional chaos[26:52] – The fatal flaw of cascading goals—and what truly separates winners from burned-out operators[44:36] – The raw moment CEOs finally break—and why some refuse to suffer the same mistakes twice About the GuestScott Levy is the Founder and CEO of ResultMaps, a cutting-edge SaaS platform designed to help founders and leadership teams obliterate operational friction, scale clarity, and get real results. With a background spanning management consulting, software, and building systems for high-growth companies, Scott's passion is turning entrepreneurial chaos into decisive execution. He's especially known for integrating technology and coaching with powerful simplicity.
Are you overwhelmed by nonstop chaos, endless stakeholder demands, or the fear you'll break while scaling up? This episode delivers urgent answers for every COO, integrator, and senior ops leader pushing to get their head above water.Cameron Herold sits down with Kelly Knight, President and Integrator of EOS Worldwide, for a rare, candid look at the systems and mindset that power explosive growth and keep organizations aligned when everything feels impossible. Kelly lifts the curtain on EOS's real role in revolutionizing the “second in command” function, gives you her hard-won playbook for winning over visionaries, and exposes how elite integrators preserve culture, even through private equity takeovers and seismic business model shifts.Stop guessing and start winning. Listen now to avoid burnout, grab proven EOS secrets, and finally align your team before something breaks. These insights are exclusive, actionable, and you won't hear them anywhere else.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – Chaos or clarity? How EOS aligns human energy when everything's changing[00:02:41] – Why most “second in command” titles are missing the mark (and where EOS fits in)[00:03:27] – The system for managing human energy that built a raving fandom[00:07:14] – Inside the “VI Duo”—the secret sauce that powers badass leadership teams[00:10:11] – One killer meeting rhythm that keeps visionaries and integrators in lockstep[00:13:02] – From outsider to integrator: Kelly's surprising first 90 days and the mistake even top COOs make[00:17:03] – Private equity chaos? How Kelly realigned 27 stakeholder groups and survived[00:27:01] – Navigating massive change: Candid truths about communication, relationships, and earning trust[00:29:44] – Why EOS failed at software and the power of doubling down on your “hedgehog”About the GuestKelly Knight is the President & Integrator of EOS Worldwide, the pioneering force behind Entrepreneurial Operating System®. Known for her expertise in scaling operations, leadership development, and stakeholder alignment, Kelly has guided EOS through private equity acquisition and global expansion. She regularly mentors visionary-operator duos around the world, helping them navigate change and build lasting company culture.
AI can generate the message in seconds. It cannot lead the room.In How to Communicate Powerfully in the AI Era with Jane Hanson, Dr. Ginny Baro brings senior leaders into a focused conversation about the one leadership advantage technology cannot replace. As AI accelerates output, communication becomes the differentiator that drives alignment, decision velocity, and trust across teams.Dr. Ginny sits down with Jane Hanson, Emmy Award-Winning broadcaster turned Executive Presence, Media, and Presentation coach, to examine what executive communication really requires when pressure is high and expectations are rising.In this episode, listeners gain:A disciplined way to communicate clearly as a senior leader when complexity threatens clarityInsight into how executive presence in meetings influences trust, credibility, and follow throughA sharper understanding of how leadership communication shapes personal brand and long term influenceThis conversation speaks directly to C suite leaders, CHROs, COOs, and executive teams navigating change in Financial Services and STEM. In an AI driven workplace, executive communication skills, trust building, and alignment across multi-generational teams determine whether strategy moves or stalls.Listen and strengthen the leadership advantage that still matters most.Recommended resources:⭐ If you enjoyed this content, subscribe to our podcast, rate it so others can find it, and share the episode with your trusted network.Looking for ways to grow and lead?⭐ Let's connect for a 15-minute cyber coffee and explore what you're facing or what may be holding you or your team back. I've held a few spots on my calendar for these high-impact connections: https://cybercoffee.youcanbook.me/⭐ If you're hosting an event and looking for a relatable speaker who delivers fresh perspectives, energy, and practical insights, let's explore how we can collaborate. https://www.executivebound.com/speaking⭐ Gain weekly leadership tools and strategies by joining our ExecutiveBound Inner Circle: https://www.executivebound.com/innercircle⭐ Explore upcoming events and high-value resources from our website: https://www.executivebound.com/events⭐ And don't miss claiming your copy of Healing Leadership or Fearless Women at Work for actionable insights to strengthen your journey: www.executivebound.com/booksLet's expand our network!⭐ Send me a LinkedIn connection request. I'd love to share my network of over 29K members with you: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginnybaro© ExecutiveBound®. All rights reserved. The Dr. Ginny Show content may not be reproduced, distributed, or transmitted in any form without prior written permission.Disclaimer: The views, information, and opinions shared on The Dr. Ginny Show are intended for entertainment and educational purposes only. They do not substitute for professional advice in legal, medical, financial, therapeutic, or organizational matters. Always seek the advice of qualified professionals regarding your unique situation.About Jane HansonJane Hanson is an Emmy award-winning broadcaster turned Executive Presence, Media, and Presentation coach. She spent over 30 years at NBC in New York, conducting thousands of interviews and speaking engagements. Today, she helps leaders refine what they say, how they say it, and how their body language brings it all together. Connect with Jane at www.janehanson.com, email jane@janehanson.com, and follow her on LinkedIn.About Jane HansonJane Hanson is an Emmy award-winning broadcaster turned Executive Presence, Media, and Presentation coach. She spent over 30 years at NBC in New York, conducting thousands of interviews and speaking engagements. Today, she helps leaders refine what they say, how they say it, and how their body language brings it all together. Connect with Jane at www.janehanson.com, email jane@janehanson.com, and follow her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janehansontv
The chief operating officer of Merrill's Jones Zafari Group describes the core qualities required to excel in the role and what COOs must do to thrive in the future. Host: Greg Bartalos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ever wonder why some COOs scale businesses to legendary heights while others get swallowed by chaos and politics? If you're craving clarity, confidence, and uncommon edge in your second-in-command role, this Fan Favorite episode is your wake-up call. Cameron Herold sits down with Matt MacInnis, COO of Rippling and co-founder of Inkling, for a raw, actionable conversation about the real challenges behind hyper-growth, hiring, trust, and culture. They dig into what makes the COO role so “special,” how to build a game-changing flywheel, and why patience, precision, and authenticity are the ultimate power moves.The pain of “going it alone” is real. Tune in to learn how to avoid disaster, dodge politics, and harness proven tactics you won't find in any business book. Don't wait until burnout bites. Listen now for fiercely exclusive COO insights, bold truths, and systems that will let you scale smarter, not harder.Timestamped Highlights[00:02:22] – The hidden pain in HR, IT, and how Rippling breaks the “original sin” of bad data[00:05:55] – Why Matt almost walked away—then got schooled by Parker's contrarian “rocket ship” logic[00:08:30] – The untold power of preexisting trust between CEO and COO—and what happens if you hire without it[00:12:49] – Topgrading secrets: Why most executive hiring fails and how to get it right (even when everyone says they're an “A player”)[00:15:44] – Copilot dynamics: How Matt and Parker run the company with surprisingly little contact (and why it works)[00:19:18] – Should you debate the CEO in front of the team? The cathartic, risky art of public disagreement[00:23:13] – Inside Rippling's flywheel advantage—what Salesforce, Facebook, and Brex did differently and why you can too[00:31:04] – Killing bureaucracy and politics: The simple rule for hiring and process that most leaders ignore[00:39:29] – The brutal, proven formula for layoffs: What Sequoia teaches (and how to survive the “survivor's guilt”)About the GuestMatt MacInnis is the Chief Operating Officer of Rippling, a revolutionary all-in-one HR and IT platform transforming how businesses scale and manage people. Matt was also the co-founder and CEO of Inkling, a mobile learning platform that raised over $100M before its acquisition. With deep roots at Apple and a Harvard engineering degree, Matt blends big-company brilliance with entrepreneurial firepower. He's known for breaking boring business norms and igniting hyper-growth, all while refusing to tolerate politics, inefficiency, or shallow executive hiring.
Feeling the pressure to scale but terrified of losing your best people, or watching team morale dissolve as your business grows?This episode, guest host Sivana Brewer gets real with Isaac Tobelen, current CMO at Springs Rejuvenation and seasoned COO, on the inside challenges of recruiting, retaining, and motivating talent in rapid-growth settings. Isaac shares proven systems for hiring culture-aligned operators, the brutal mistakes that cost him top performers, and how “Innovation Day” became a surprising game-changer for agency culture.If you want actionable tactics to build a resilient team and avoid silent exits, listen now, not later. Your next big hire, retention strategy, or culture upgrade may hinge on these lessons. Tune in for exclusive, hard-won insights that most COOs only learn the hard way.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – The “quiet risk” that nearly cratered Isaac's agency and why losing one key player can trigger a domino effect[03:08] – Rewiring direct response marketing for an unexpected industry and scaling it to $1.2M/month[08:59] – Why competitors keep stealing Isaac's ads, but can't touch his team's execution[11:08] – The secret overlap of visionary CEO and practical COO—why it worked for Isaac and Ashton[13:49] – How teaching people “how to think” crushed micromanagement and burnout[15:02] – The counterintuitive hiring process that filters for real values (not just resume skills)[24:29] – Unconventional interview tactics, homework, and the non-negotiables that reveal true fit[32:00] – “Innovation Day” revealed – How letting teams fail forward built trust and inspired breakthrough creativity[38:11] – Isaac's 2 biggest mistakes: concentrated risk and a disastrous acquisition—what he'd do differently[52:44] – Is AI really changing everything? Isaac's blunt take on what's hype, what actually matters, and why talent must upskill nowAbout the GuestIsaac Tobelen is the Chief Marketing Officer at Springs Rejuvenation, a leader in stem cell and exosome therapy. Previously, he was COO at Hemon Media, where he scaled the agency to $500K/month in 18 months, managed $36M+ ad budgets, and built high-performing teams from scratch. Isaac is known for his systems thinking, rapid operational scale, and real-world people development.
Are you tired of chaotic operations, burned-out teams, and the relentless pressure to execute big visions without breaking yourself in the process? In this can't-miss fan favorite episode, Cameron Herold goes deep with Griff Long, former COO of Orangetheory Fitness, a leader who's transformed personal growth and business results at some of America's top brands. If you're a second-in-command, exhausted by firefighting and silo wars, this conversation will shake up your playbook. Griff shares battle-tested leadership secrets, why people (not processes) matter most, and how data-driven innovation is gripping the fitness world.Skip another mediocre “growth” podcast. Listen now to avoid the #1 pain point for COOs: stagnant teams, missed opportunities, and burnout. This is your backstage pass to proven strategies and exclusive insights you won't get anywhere else.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – Why this episode is a fan-favorite (and why you need it now)[00:28] – Griff's devastating rookie mistake and how it reshaped his approach[01:24] – The “double threat” that got Griff hired at Orangetheory[03:09] – The surprising science and secrets behind Orangetheory's addictively sticky workouts[09:33] – Griff's golden thread technique for obliterating silos and boosting buy-in[13:00] – Why running corporate-owned studios is Orangetheory's secret weapon[16:02] – How Griff rebuilt the org chart and what every COO should copy[19:20] – Laser focus vs. death by a thousand cuts: How to avoid competitive distraction[25:19] – Griff's top-three leadership lessons (and the #1 thing he'd tell his 22-year-old self)[34:08] – The red/yellow/green “traffic light” playbook for direct reports and leadership developmentAbout the GuestGriff Long is the former COO of Orangetheory Fitness, blending 25+ years of hands-on leadership with a passion for measurable growth and elite team culture. Known for scaling fitness giants like PureBar and SoulCycle, Griff has rebuilt teams, crushed operational bottlenecks, and championed transformations using data and heart. He's a US Triathlon Coach, a Six Sigma Green Belt, and a master at developing people before processes—essential context for any COO facing existential growth pains.
Are you tired of feeling trapped in the chaos of scaling, with too many projects and not enough clarity on what actually drives growth? In this episode, host Cameron Herold sits down with Josh Post, COO of Cabochon Group and longtime COO Alliance member, for an emotionally raw, practical conversation about breaking out of operational overwhelm.Josh reveals how he went from reluctant family business leader to proven integrator, leading turnarounds, managing conflict, and creating systems real teams can actually use. From delegating all the right things to mastering financial fluency, you'll get the strategies and truth bombs most COOs wish they had known at the start.If you're hungry to escape burnout and unlock your next level as a second-in-command, listen now to avoid the expensive mistakes nearly everyone makes while scaling. This episode delivers unfiltered wisdom you won't find anywhere else, and the urgency to take action before chaos catches up with you.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – Why most owners don't know how their business really makes money (and what to do about it)[03:25] – The journey from accidental entrepreneur to turning around failing operations[06:00] – Exclusive lessons learned surviving and thriving inside – a family business[10:19] – How Josh navigated a tense partner buyout and instantly simplified everything[13:46] – Choosing the right leadership roles: birth order, strengths, and painful missteps[16:09] – The only books and frameworks that actually moved the needle (and why “just-in-time learning” beats old-school reading habits)[20:22] – From swinging hammers to overseeing finance – demystifying numbers when you're not a CPA[26:42] – Weekly pulse meetings, candid conflict, and the real CEO-COO dance[29:04] – How fractional COO work revealed the true bottlenecks in small business growth[33:13] – The most costly mistake COOs make (and how Josh trains owners to finally be “all in”)About the GuestJosh Post is an industry-recognized Business Turnaround Expert and Fractional Chief Operating Officer who specializes in business recovery, optimization, and rapid growth. Between his position as a COO with The Cabochon Group of Companies and his work as an Independent Expert, he manages a diverse portfolio of over $57 Million spanning several industries.From streamlining operations and accounting to marketing and even acquisition, The Cabochon Group of Companies is the ultimate business support hub where businesses can access a unified strategy from a single source of seasoned professionals that provide a comprehensive, integrated experience.As a Fractional COO and Business Advisor Josh leverages his expertise to provide businesses with targeted, one-on-one guidance on the critical challenges threatening operations. Through resources like his signature business assessment, the Business MRI, he's able to hone in on the root issues, tailoring strategies that work.He credits the COO Alliance for helping him to overcome imposter syndrome, teaching him how to harness his strengths as a Galvanizer and Enabler to drive execution and momentum at scale.
What if the most valuable currency in your career isn't money, but authentic relationships nobody can take away?In this urgent episode, guest host Sivana Brewer digs deep with John Rubino, COO and founder of JID Investments and a US naval aviator turned business leader. Together, they unravel how military discipline, open-book honesty, and relentless connection-building are the forgotten keys to thriving in today's high-stakes market.Discover the proven systems, mindset shifts, and emotional skills John uses to lead through market chaos, burnout, and uncertainty. If you're tired of surface-level business advice and want the real trade secrets to scaling impact and resilience, you need this now.Listen or risk missing out on the exclusive moves that successful second-in-commands use to win, when everyone else is underwater.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – Transitioning from Navy pilot to COO: war stories behind real discipline[02:05] – How John's military roots shaped his leadership style and investor trust[04:40] – The wild pivot: launching a business before leaving active duty[07:07] – Top Gun moments, family legacies, and the dream of commanding multi-million dollar assets[10:53] – Secret systems for managing 18+ deals and 200+ investors without chaos[14:02] – Navigating COVID uncertainty—how top COOs adapt and overcome[17:02] – The hidden ROI of real relationships and why most companies are doing it wrong[29:44] – Masterminds and tribe thinking: the best advice John gives his own kids[34:02] – John's high-impact daily process for balancing work, team, and personal lifeAbout the GuestJohn Rubino is the COO, founder, and co-managing partner of JID Investments, where he's raised over $45M and delivered returns across dozens of real estate projects for 200+ investors. With more than 20 years as a U.S. naval aviator followed by a decade in private equity, John is renowned for his disciplined, relationship-first approach to investing and leadership. He also coaches real estate and financial professionals in strategic wealth-building at KW United Wealth.
Are you secretly wondering if your team has what it really takes to scale across borders, cultures, and chaos?In this episode, Jim Lutzweiler sits down with Jim Lutzweiler, Global COO at ForAfrika, to pull back the curtain on what actually makes world-class teams tick. From the dirt floors of Ghana to the boardrooms of Fortune 500s, Jim's been the fixer for mission-driven giants—solving people, culture, and growth puzzles in over 100 countries.If you're tired of surface-level leadership advice and ready to learn the real, gritty skills for building resilient teams, breaking silos, and driving impact under fire, this conversation is your competitive edge. Listen now to dodge the pain and political landmines of hiring wrong, failing succession plans, or losing visibility on what actually matters.This episode delivers battle-tested wisdom for COOs who want to thrive. Miss it, and you'll be left behind. Only here will you find these raw, proven insights. Don't skip this one.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – The no-surprises rule that keeps leadership out of the headlines (and how silence wrecks your team's brand)[02:10] – From Peace Corps mud huts to C-suite: why relentless curiosity built Jim's game-changing career trajectory[05:33] – Why hiring for passion isn't enough—developing the DNA for unstoppable teams across 8 countries[12:17] – When a single email kills your funding: navigating shock, recovery, and reinvention under global donor cuts[16:48] – The “BMW engine” mentality that rewired how Jim builds high-output teams[20:07] – How to spot (and fix) hidden silos—and why most leaders get blindsided[34:10] – In-person secrets: the critical moves that build (or break) trust when screens won't cut it[51:31] – Working with visionaries: telling your CEO the hard truth and loving your “number two” seatAbout the GuestJim Lutzweiler is the Chief Operating Officer at ForAfrika, an NGO transforming lives by unlocking Africa's resources to help its people thrive. With over 25 years of experience in international development, including work across 100 countries for governments, NGOs, and Fortune 500 companies, Jim is recognized for building resilient teams, leading successful change initiatives, and managing complex projects at scale.
Ever feel overwhelmed by the impossible task of scaling a team without losing your soul or your culture? You're not alone… or powerless.In this episode, Sivana Brewer is joined by David Chol, COO of Vanguard Properties, for a candid conversation about breaking through isolation, banishing burnout, and the rare leadership moves every operator needs to hear (but never gets taught).They dive deep into why “quality over quantity” culture trumps complexity, how to actually build people (not just systems), and what happens when you ditch the rulebook and trust your gut. Learn proven ways to create psychological safety, unleash autonomy, and develop team members you never realized were hiding in plain sight.Listen now if you want a legendary team, not headaches. Tune in today to steal the strategies you won't find on any corporate checklist and avoid the silent cost of letting your best people stagnate.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – The wild, serendipitous story of how an overseas friendship turned into a game-changing recruiting move[01:24] – “Quality over quantity”: The Vanguard way of winning big without getting bigger[04:46] – Why career-crushing heartbreaks can open doors to your best opportunities—and why David welcomes them[10:17] – There was no playbook: What happens when you're handed your “dream job” and left to sink or swim[13:15] – Surprising truths: What David really discovered about himself when the safety nets disappeared[19:04] – The secret to creating a culture of radical autonomy without chaos—or loss of accountability[21:10] – Why most interviews are fake (and how to truly get to know someone before you hire them)[31:35] – The 15-calls-a-day ritual: The proven method that keeps hidden talent from falling through the cracks[38:03] – Exactly how to keep your best people growing—plus the overlooked dangers of ignoring their untapped skills[42:07] – The harsh realities no one tells COOs about—plus honest ways to navigate “second in command” constraintsAbout the GuestDavid Chol is the Chief Operating Officer of Vanguard Properties, the Bay Area's largest independent and LGBT-led brokerage, boasting 500+ agents and a forty-year legacy. A lifelong real estate operator with roots ranging from private equity to technology, David is known for building standout cultures and pioneering people-first leadership strategies that drive growth, even when markets are in turmoil. At Vanguard, he champions autonomy, radical honesty, and transforming hidden staff potential into real company wins.
What if the only way to build a company and a life with true resilience was to let everything break? Are you burned out, questioning leadership, or stuck in a plateau while everyone expects you to “scale perfectly”?In this episode, host Sivana Brewer sits down with Matt Rhodes, COO of The Phoenix Method and co-founder of Polaris Capital Investments. Matt shares his raw story of rising from rock bottom, both in business and marriage, using a radical combination of systems, self-accountability, and explosive mindset shifts.Discover how Matt and his wife Jen rebuilt trust, transformed company culture, and mastered the uncomfortable art of letting go… all while weathering the chaos of COVID and scaling new ventures.Skip the endless analysis and unlock the real, actionable playbook for bouncing back stronger. Tune in now or risk staying stuck in mediocrity. This episode is an exclusive masterclass for COOs tired of perfection and ready for exceptional impact.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – Why COOs must “let systems break” to escape perfection traps[01:16] – The harsh wake-up call that shattered business—and marriage[04:01] – How COVID exposed fragile culture—and forced total reinvention[07:07] – The critical hiring shift: moving from sales stars to customer-first teams[10:33] – Letting go, delegation, and the painful process that actually fueled growth[13:52] – Fresh eyes: Why bringing in outsiders is the hidden superpower in scaling[15:17] – The vital metrics Matt tracks weekly to prevent disaster before it hits[19:07] – How Matt and Jen divided CEO/COO roles to leverage their strengths[24:02] – Why top COOs never go it alone—the ROI (and resistance) of world-class coaching[32:12] – Breaking isolation: Why environment and peer groups are every COO's money-making secret[36:43] – The one mindset shift that transformed results, inside and outAbout the GuestMatt Rhodes is the COO of The Phoenix Method and co-founder of Polaris Capital Investments, with over 25 years of leadership experience across corporate America, fitness franchises, and strategic investing. Known for his real-world resilience and trailblazing company culture turnarounds, Matt is a go-to coach for leaders intent on transforming challenges into growth opportunities. His current roles reflect his commitment to systems-led scaling, paired with the uncommon honesty few executives dare to share.
Ever feel like you're stuck fixing fires instead of building teams that actually thrive? Imagine stepping into a legacy brand, mobilizing hundreds of operators, and transforming your culture from confused to unbeatable, all while modernizing for the future.In this episode, Cameron Herold gets real with Jackie Secor, COO of Taco John's. She's a 25-year franchise and operations veteran who reveals how trust, creativity, and emotional intelligence drive relentless brand loyalty and profit. They dive deep into promoting insiders, learning from the front line, fighting standardization chaos, and using AI to cut real problems, not just hype.If you're tired of leadership fluff and want the actual proven moves great COOs use to build legendary teams, this episode is your advantage. Press play right now if you want to stop the pain of high turnover, poor culture, or outdated systems and get the inside story you'll never hear anywhere else.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – Why problem-dropping is forbidden in Jackie's office[03:01] – The unexpected challenges facing any new COO in a legacy brand[04:06] – Why the right network beats experience every time[07:42] – Jaw-dropping fix: How she clawed back operational standardization[09:21] – The hidden dangers of outsourced audits (and how Jackie reversed them)[13:30] – How stretch assignments reveal real leaders, not just performers[15:04] – Emotional intelligence: The operator's secret weapon[17:42] – How Jackie coaches Gen Z talent when they want the corner office—now[20:03] – The shocking empathy learned on the franchisee side[25:41] – Standardizing the most controversial taco technique: meat on bottom or side?![29:13] – Multi-generation success—how Taco John's beats the odds other brands can't[32:03] – Are robots and AI the real next move, or total overkill?[36:03] – Why “get back to basics” wins versus flashy ideas every time[37:46] – The one job in the restaurant nobody envies (and why it matters for culture)[43:31] – Redefining quality and value, even as giants like Chipotle pivot fast[44:04] – Why every franchisor MUST run their own locations for credibility[45:56] – The advice Jackie wishes she got at 21 (and warns every young COO today)About the GuestJackie Secor is the Chief Operating Officer at Taco John's, a fast-growing, family-owned restaurant brand with a passionate multi-generation franchise base. With over 25 years' experience across both franchisee and franchisor sides, including at Auntie Anne's, she's renowned for building high-performance teams, driving operational turnarounds, and modernizing legacy operations through creativity and emotional intelligence.