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Growers Edge is revolutionizing agriculture by eliminating the biggest barrier to farmer innovation: risk aversion. With $30 million in funding raised in just 18 months under CEO Matthew Hansen's leadership, the company has evolved from a struggling crop insurance reseller into a multi-faceted agricultural technology platform. By providing downside protection for farmers trying new inputs, expanding into direct lending for equipment and land purchases, and leveraging proprietary data insights, Growers Edge has built three profitable business lines targeting a combined addressable market of over $400 billion. In this episode, Matthew shares his journey from private equity investor to hands-on operator, detailing the systematic turnaround that transformed the company from hundreds of thousands in revenue to millions, with some business lines growing at 800% annually. Topics Discussed: Growers Edge's evolution from crop insurance reseller to comprehensive agricultural risk management platform The three core business lines: input warranties, direct lending, and data services Matthew's transition from private equity investor to operational CEO The systematic approach to company turnaround and organizational restructuring Strategies for identifying and scaling what's working while eliminating what isn't Building a customer-focused organization versus a product-focused one Attracting top-tier talent during rapid growth phases GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Lead with guarantee, not data: Matthew discovered that "putting your money where your mouth is goes a lot further than charts and graphs at the farm gate." Instead of overwhelming farmers with analytics to convince them to try new inputs, Growers Edge simply guarantees the performance. This approach eliminates the primary barrier to adoption - risk aversion - and accelerates decision-making. B2B founders should consider how they can reduce perceived risk for customers rather than just providing more information to justify decisions. Organize around customers, not products: One of Matthew's first major changes was restructuring the organization around customer needs rather than product lines. He explains the critical difference: "A company that's organized around products has something and you're trying to basically force someone to buy it, whereas the company that's focused on customers knows the customer, sees the need and provides a solution." This customer-centric approach enables rapid iteration and market responsiveness that product-focused organizations struggle to achieve. Scale winners ruthlessly while exploring adjacencies: Rather than trying to fix everything, Matthew focused on "watering the winners" - identifying what was already working and doubling down with resources and talent. He then systematically explored adjacent opportunities that leveraged existing capabilities, like using warranty data to inform lending decisions. B2B founders should resist the urge to spread resources thin and instead concentrate on amplifying proven success while strategically expanding into related markets. Build acquisition as distribution strategy: Growers Edge's acquisition of Aquoso wasn't about technology or talent - it was about buying a go-to-market engine. Matthew compares it to "when Budweiser buys a craft beer company and when you plug it into that distribution network, you see sales of that craft beer skyrocket." The acquired company's existing relationships with 28 banks and farm credits provided immediate distribution for Growers Edge's data products, doubling that business since acquisition. Founders should consider acquisitions not just for capabilities, but as a way to instantly access established customer relationships and distribution channels. Talent attraction follows momentum, not compensation: Matthew was able to recruit executives who had built three unicorn fintech companies not through compensation alone, but because of "the positive direction of the business, the renewed vigor of the fundraising and the support of very credible, fantastic sponsors." Top talent gravitates toward companies with clear momentum and strong backing. B2B founders should focus on demonstrating tangible progress and securing credible investors as much for talent attraction as for capital. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Conifer is pioneering a revolutionary approach to electric powertrains by eliminating dependence on rare earth materials while maintaining superior performance. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, we spoke with Ankit Somani, Co-Founder of Conifer, about the company's mission to make electric powertrains as simple and manufacturable as internal combustion engines. Their breakthrough technology addresses critical supply chain vulnerabilities while enabling faster, more cost-effective electrification across industries from two-wheelers to delivery vehicles and robotics. Topics Discussed: The fundamental challenges with current electric powertrain manufacturing and rare earth material dependencies Conifer's approach to creating modular, rare earth-free electric powertrains with 90% commonized components The company's manufacturing-first design philosophy that prioritizes scalability and cost reduction Strategic go-to-market approaches for hardware companies selling to technical buyers Building brand trust and long-term customer relationships in hardware markets Earned media strategies that generated significant inbound demand without paid advertising The geopolitical implications of rare earth material supply chain constraints GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Start with manufacturing constraints, not just product design: Ankit emphasized that their team approached hardware development backwards from typical startups. Instead of designing first and figuring out manufacturing later, they started by solving the hardest constraints: "Can you actually source the materials and manufacture it cheaply first and use that to then guide your design?" This manufacturing-first approach enabled them to create products that could scale economically from day one. B2B hardware founders should prioritize understanding their manufacturing and supply chain limitations before finalizing product specifications. Target technical champions who feel the pain daily: Rather than selling through traditional procurement channels, Conifer went directly to the end designers who were "perplexed with here's so many options I need to qualify." These technical users became their champions within customer organizations. As Ankit explained, "Use that to matrix in rest of the organization" rather than becoming just another commodity option in a sea of vendors. B2B founders should identify the specific technical roles that experience their problem most acutely and build champion relationships there first. Leverage geopolitical timing for category creation: Conifer's success was amplified by aligning their rare earth-free value proposition with growing geopolitical concerns about supply chain dependencies. Ankit noted: "The most important thing is what is happening in the world that you can most closely associate with where you could have a differing opinion." They positioned themselves as the alternative when the market was actively seeking solutions to rare earth dependencies. B2B founders should identify macro trends that create urgency for their solution and time their messaging accordingly. Build conviction for multi-year hardware cycles: Unlike software where you can iterate quickly based on customer feedback, hardware requires longer-term conviction. Ankit shared: "In a hardware product you have to have at least a two year view because that's the true cycle of making the product, proving the product and put it into production." Their decision to stick with rare earth-free technology, even when customers suggested alternatives, proved crucial when market conditions validated their thesis. Hardware founders must develop conviction in their core technical bets and resist the temptation to pivot based on short-term customer requests. Use physical demonstrations as your primary sales tool: Conifer's marketing strategy centers on putting working products in customers' hands rather than relying on presentations. As Ankit explained: "When you give a product in people's hands and within two minutes they realize the value of it without going through a bunch of PowerPoint." Their approach involves integrating systems into customer vehicles so prospects can "touch and feel" the performance difference. B2B hardware founders should prioritize creating tangible demonstrations that let customers experience their product's value directly. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Abel Police is transforming law enforcement efficiency through AI-powered report generation technology. With $5 million in funding, the company has developed a computer vision and natural language processing platform that automatically generates police reports from body camera footage, reducing officer paperwork time by up to one-third. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Daniel Francis, Founder and CEO of Abel Police, to explore how a former data engineer with no policing background identified a massive inefficiency in law enforcement and built technology to address it. Topics Discussed: How a personal experience with domestic violence response times led to the founding of Abel Police The discovery that police officers spend one-third of their time writing reports Abel Police's approach to integrating with existing digital evidence management systems The unique challenges of selling technology to government agencies and police departments The company's evolution from attempting full record management system integration to standalone solutions The regulatory compliance requirements specific to criminal justice information systems (CJIS) GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Immerse yourself completely in your target customer's world: Daniel spent 32 ride-alongs with police officers across different departments, not just conducting interviews but observing their daily workflows for hours. He describes himself as "chief ride along officer" and emphasizes that he had to "creepily watch them work for hours" to understand their pain points. B2B founders should go beyond traditional customer interviews and embed themselves in their customers' actual work environment to identify problems that aren't immediately obvious through conversation alone. Start with mock data when real data is inaccessible: Unable to access actual body camera footage, Daniel created fake scenarios with friends, filming mock arrests and citations to train their AI models. This creative workaround allowed them to begin product development despite regulatory barriers to accessing real police footage. B2B founders facing data access challenges should find creative ways to simulate their target environment and data types to begin building and testing their solutions. Become an insider to overcome industry skepticism: Daniel secured a position as a "records intern" at Richmond Police Department when they wouldn't initially buy his solution, giving him access to real body camera footage and deeper understanding of police workflows. This inside access became crucial for product development and credibility. B2B founders entering unfamiliar industries should consider temporary or consulting arrangements that allow them to work alongside their target customers and gain credibility within the industry. Give away pilots strategically in government markets: Contrary to Y Combinator's advice to always charge for pilots, Daniel found that offering free trials was essential for police departments due to their complex procurement processes. He explains that "if they have to pay for something, that's a hassle" in government settings, but if they're willing to share their data with you, "they're serious about it." B2B founders selling to government should consider free pilots as a necessary investment to navigate bureaucratic purchasing processes. Build standalone solutions before attempting platform integration: Abel Police initially tried to integrate with every record management system, which significantly delayed their go-to-market timeline. They found success by building a standalone version first, then pursuing integrations. Daniel notes they "would have never sold anything" if they had stuck to their original integration-first approach. B2B founders should prioritize getting a working solution in customers' hands over achieving perfect system integration from day one. Leverage adjacent opportunities from your core market position: Once established with police departments, Abel Police identified additional problems like online citizen reporting and policy/law lookup tools. Their relationship with agencies made them "very open to new solutions" since "there's way more problems than there is solutions" in policing. B2B founders should view their initial market entry as a platform for identifying and addressing related problems within the same customer base. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Healthcare payments consume between $650 billion and $1 trillion annually in billing and insurance-related costs—an amount comparable to the entire U.S. Defense Department budget. At the heart of this staggering inefficiency lies a fundamental problem: when patients receive care, nobody actually knows in real-time whether the insurance will pay for it. Mike Desjadon, CEO of Anomaly, spent nearly two decades in healthcare payments before building a company to solve this core issue. In this episode, we explore how Anomaly is creating "payment assurance" for healthcare—bringing the same real-time payment certainty that exists everywhere else in commerce to an industry desperately in need of it. Topics Discussed: The massive scale of healthcare billing costs and why precision is impossible at this scale How the complex coding system (ICD, CPT, revenue codes) creates a "ridiculous Rubik's Cube" of payment determination Why healthcare lacks payment assurance while every other industry has real-time payment certainty The fundamental information asymmetry between providers and insurers that drives administrative waste Anomaly's approach to using AI and machine learning to predict payment outcomes early in the care process The strategic decision to focus exclusively on providers rather than serving both sides of the market GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Avoid "Annual Curiosity Revenue" in favor of deep customer relationships: Mike warns against chasing what he calls "ACR" - contracts driven by curiosity about new technology rather than real value. Instead of racing to accumulate surface-level customers, Anomaly focuses on 1-5 anchor customers where they forward-deploy engineers and dedicate leadership attention. As Mike explained, "I'd rather take a much smaller amount of those trusted pitches... find me 10 of the right conversations, don't find me a hundred surface level conversations." In healthcare's 14-month sales cycles, shallow relationships burn runway without building sustainable growth. Match your go-to-market strategy to industry realities, not investor expectations: Healthcare's long sales cycles and conservative nature require a fundamentally different approach than traditional SaaS growth models. Mike structured Anomaly's capital and hiring strategy around 14-month sales cycles rather than trying to compress them. "If you know that it's a 14 month sales cycle... being realistic about those timeframes and those capital structures, you just make sure your plan on burn matches your plan on strategy." This meant hiring customer success and engineering talent before traditional sales roles, aligning team composition with the actual customer adoption process. Segment ruthlessly based on transformation readiness: Not every healthcare organization is ready for transformative technology. Mike emphasizes the critical need to identify whether prospects are "looking for transformation" versus "looking to automate an isolated process." He shares that distinguishing between these segments determines the entire sales approach. Organizations seeking transformation are willing to work through implementation complexity for substantial outcomes, while those seeking automation want predictable, incremental improvements. Misreading this distinction leads to failed sales cycles and misaligned product development. Use forward-deployed engineering as a competitive advantage: Rather than traditional customer success managers, Anomaly deploys engineers directly to customers during implementation. This approach proves particularly valuable in AI/ML applications where the technology is rapidly evolving and customer needs aren't fully defined. Mike notes, "Having engineers in that has been hugely valuable for us because we're able to really quickly deliver value, very quickly deliver outsized value." This strategy enables rapid iteration, builds deeper technical trust, and often leads to expanded contracts through demonstrated capability rather than traditional sales pitches. Build category credibility through case studies, not connections: In healthcare, having impressive investors or warm introductions matters far less than demonstrating proven results with known organizations. Mike emphasizes, "What you need in healthcare is slapping six case studies down the desk... show me the six organizations that I know that you work with that are going to tell me I should work with you." This insight drives Anomaly's entire early-stage strategy—prioritizing customer success and measurable outcomes over rapid customer acquisition, building the credibility foundation needed for future sales acceleration. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Healthcare productivity is broken. While labor represents 60% of all healthcare spending—comparable only to the hospitality industry—the overwhelming majority of chronic disease management happens outside clinical settings with virtually no professional oversight. Phamily (Jaan Health) has raised $25 million to solve this fundamental inefficiency through their AI-enabled platform, which automates care management for patients with chronic diseases between visits. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Nabeel Kaukab, Founder & CEO of Phamily, to explore how his company is addressing the $5 trillion healthcare industry's core productivity challenge while enabling providers to reach 100 times more patients than traditional care models allow. Topics Discussed: The parallels between early internet adoption in the 1990s and today's AI revolution Why labor costs drive 60% of healthcare spending, making productivity the only solution worth pursuing The fundamental three-party dynamic in healthcare where consumers don't pay and payers don't consume How real triage happens between patients and non-medical professionals, not in emergency rooms The transition from episodic, scheduled care to proactive, automated care management Why healthy young professionals aren't the target demographic for healthcare technology The economics of running a $15-20 million revenue doctor's office like a corner business Building sustainable growth without subsidizing customers or burning excessive capital GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Understand your customer's economic reality before building solutions: Nabeel emphasized that healthcare providers operate under extreme economic constraints where they "do God's work but oftentimes at their own expense." He learned that approaching doctors with patient-first messaging fails because providers are already saturated with out-of-pocket expenses for patient care. B2B founders entering regulated industries must understand that their customers' willingness to adopt new solutions depends entirely on economic viability, not just value creation. If your solution doesn't improve your customer's unit economics, you're wasting everyone's time. Don't assume sophisticated organizations have sophisticated operations: Despite generating $15-20 million in annual revenue, most doctor's offices operate like small family businesses. Nabeel discovered that these substantial healthcare practices are often run by office managers who serve as CFO/COO without business school training and may not have college degrees. B2B founders should audit the actual operational sophistication of their target customers rather than making assumptions based on organization size or industry reputation. Adjust your messaging, terminology, and sales process accordingly. Target the constraint, not the ideal customer: Jaan Health succeeded by focusing on the fundamental constraint in healthcare—the 1:2000 doctor-to-patient ratio that makes individualized attention impossible. Rather than trying to serve healthy, tech-savvy young professionals who can afford premium care, they built for the massive population of chronic disease patients who need consistent monitoring but can't access it. B2B founders should identify and design for the bottleneck in their industry rather than the most attractive or vocal customer segment. Build category understanding through problem-solving, not positioning: Nabeel admitted it took nearly a decade to clearly articulate their category as "chronic care management between visits." Rather than starting with category creation, they focused intensively on solving real workflow problems for providers and patients. Only after achieving substantial scale and proven outcomes did they invest in category messaging. B2B founders should prioritize deep problem-solving over early positioning and allow their category definition to emerge from market feedback. Raise capital for growth, not survival: Jaan Health achieved 50-100% annual growth and eight-figure ARR by raising minimal capital initially and proving unit economics before scaling. Nabeel stressed raising money "when you know you can get a return on it as opposed to raising capital because you want to stay alive." This approach enabled them to sell value rather than discounting services. B2B founders should establish sustainable unit economics and proven customer demand before raising significant growth capital. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
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Typedef is building an inference-first data engine designed for the new era of AI agents and machine-to-machine interactions. With $5.5 million in funding, the company is reimagining data infrastructure for a world where both humans and AI systems need seamless access to data processing capabilities. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Kostas Pardalis, Co-Founder & CEO of Typedef, to explore how the company is addressing the fundamental shift from traditional business intelligence platforms to AI-native data infrastructure that treats inference as a first-class citizen alongside traditional compute resources. Topics Discussed: Typedef's vision for inference-first data infrastructure in the AI era The transition from human-only to machine-to-machine data interactions Why infrastructure companies take longer to reach revenue but build deeper moats The evolution from pre-AI data platforms to AI-native solutions Design partner strategies for infrastructure companies Go-to-market approaches that combine bottom-up (engineers) and top-down (decision makers) strategies Category creation challenges in rapidly evolving AI markets The importance of open source and education in developer-focused go-to-market GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Start go-to-market activities during the design partner phase: Kostas emphasized that go-to-market isn't something you switch on after product development. "It's okay to go out there and talk about something that it's not very well defined or it might change, but actually it doesn't matter... go to market like just like everything else, it's an interactive process." B2B founders should begin building awareness, creating content, and engaging with potential customers even while their product is still evolving. Design partners must have real pain, not just time: The biggest insight about design partnerships is treating them like real customer relationships. "A design partner is still someone who has a problem that needs to be solved... no one is just donating their time out there... There still has to be value there." Don't approach design partnerships as charity work - ensure there's genuine mutual value exchange where your solution addresses real business pain. Product-market fit requires both product AND market innovation: Kostas challenged the common engineering mindset about product-market fit: "Many times, especially engineers, think that when we say product, market fit is that we have market, which is a static thing and we just need to iterate over the product until we find the right thing that matches exactly the market. No, that's not right." B2B founders must innovate on both the product and go-to-market sides simultaneously, including defining their target vertical and building appropriate sales motions. Infrastructure sales require dual-persona strategies: When selling to developers and technical infrastructure, you need both bottom-up and top-down approaches. "Even if you go to the manager and they love what you are saying, you still have to convince the engineers to use this thing... And they have a lot of leverage and vice versa." The bottom-up motion involves open source adoption and education, while the top-down involves traditional outbound sales to decision makers. Category creation doesn't guarantee category dominance: Having witnessed category creation firsthand, Kostas shared that defining a category doesn't ensure winning it. "It doesn't necessarily mean that because you define the categories that you are going to win at the end... Vercel was not actually the company that invented the category there." Focus on solving real problems and building sustainable competitive advantages rather than just being first to market with category messaging. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Personal AI is pioneering the next generation of artificial intelligence with their memory-first platform that creates personalized AI models for individuals and organizations. Having raised over $16 million, the company has evolved from targeting consumers to focusing on enterprise customers who need highly private, precise, and personalized AI solutions. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Suman Kanuganti, CEO and Co-Founder of Personal AI, to explore the company's journey from early AI experimentation in 2015 to building what he envisions as the future AI workforce for enterprise organizations. Topics Discussed: Personal AI's evolution from consumer-focused to enterprise B2B platform The technical architecture behind personal language models vs. large language models Privacy-first approach and competitive advantages in regulated industries Go-to-market pivot and scaling from small law firms to enterprise contracts Unit economics advantages and 10x cost reduction compared to traditional LLMs Vision for AI workforce integration in public companies within 3-5 years GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Recognize when market timing doesn't align with your vision: Suman's team was building AI solutions as early as 2015, nearly a decade before the ChatGPT moment. When ChatGPT launched in November 2022, Personal AI faced confusion from investors and customers about their differentiation. Rather than forcing their sophisticated personal AI models on consumers who wanted simpler solutions, they recognized the market mismatch and pivoted. B2B founders should be prepared to adjust their go-to-market approach when market readiness doesn't match their technical capabilities, even if their technology is superior. Find your wedge in enterprise through specific pain points: Personal AI discovered their enterprise entry point by targeting "highly sensitive use cases that LLMs are not good for" where companies would be "shit scared to put any data in the LLM." They focused on precision and privacy pain points that large language models couldn't address. B2B founders should identify specific enterprise pain points where their solution provides clear advantages over existing alternatives, rather than trying to be everything to everyone. Let customer expansion drive revenue growth: Personal AI's enterprise strategy evolved organically as existing contracts "started growing like wildfire as more people had a creative mindset to solve the problem with the platform." They discovered that their Persona concept allowed enterprises to consolidate multiple AI use cases into one platform. B2B founders should design their platforms to naturally expand within organizations and reduce vendor fragmentation, creating stickiness and increasing average contract values. Leverage architectural advantages for unit economics: By positioning their personal language models between customer use cases and large language models, Personal AI achieved "10x lower cost" per token. This architectural decision created both privacy benefits and economic advantages. B2B founders should consider how their technical architecture can create sustainable competitive advantages in both functionality and economics, not just features. Geography matters more than you think for fundraising: Suman identified his biggest fundraising mistake as not moving to San Francisco earlier, stating "back in 2022 or 2023 is when I should have moved to San Francisco, period." He learned that being part of the Silicon Valley ecosystem and conversation is critical for fundraising success. B2B founders should consider the strategic importance of physical presence in key markets, especially when raising capital, and not underestimate the value of in-person relationship building. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Wispr Flow has transformed voice dictation from a frustrating novelty into a seamless productivity tool that users trust implicitly. With a recent $30 million Series A led by Menlo Ventures, the company has achieved remarkable product-market fit through 90% word-of-mouth growth and users who share the product organically without prompting. In this episode, I sat down with Tanay Kothari, CEO and Co-Founder of Wispr Flow, to learn about the company's pivot from hardware to software, their approach to manufacturing viral moments, and their strategy for competing against tech giants with distribution advantages. Topics Discussed: Wispr Flow's pivot from building voice assistant hardware to focusing on voice-to-text software The company's unique approach to achieving sub-half-second latency and exceptional accuracy Building viral growth through manufactured "aha moments" and exceptional user onboarding Competing against OpenAI and Apple through speed of execution and user experience focus The challenge of building for mainstream users beyond Silicon Valley's tech-savvy population Strategic decisions around cutting non-essential growth channels to maintain focus GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Manufacture viral moments through obsessive user research: Tanay personally onboarded the first 500 users via Google Meet, watching their facial expressions, mouse movements, and emotional reactions in real-time. This intensive observation allowed him to identify and systematically reproduce moments of user delight. He explained, "Find the things that repeatedly create delight, make sure that never dies, and then find the other places where there's confusion and kind of take them out." B2B founders should invest heavily in understanding the micro-moments of user experience, as these compound into organic growth at scale. Leverage authentic product usage by your target buyers during fundraising: When Wispr Flow raised their Series A, every VC in Silicon Valley was already using the product daily. Tanay noted, "I didn't need to convince them about why the product was good. All I had to tell them about if you believe why Whisper is good today, here is where we can take the company." This eliminated the typical product demonstration phase and shifted conversations to vision and execution capability. B2B founders should prioritize getting their product into the hands of potential investors as users before ever pitching them as investors. Build anti-fragile technology that improves as the industry evolves: Rather than competing directly with AI model capabilities, Wispr Flow built infrastructure that gets better as underlying AI models improve. Tanay instructs his team: "If at some point that you feel afraid of a new model launching, you're doing something wrong." This philosophy led them to focus on latency, user experience, and integration rather than competing on raw AI performance. B2B founders in AI-adjacent spaces should identify where they can create value that compounds with industry improvements rather than being displaced by them. Cut aggressively to maintain focus during rapid growth: Despite conventional wisdom, Wispr Flow eliminated SEO efforts entirely because "no one is searching for voice dictation" and most people don't know the technology has reached usability thresholds. Tanay applies an extreme 80/20 rule: "You can cut the 80% of the things that are not giving you the results... You find a new 20% that's going to give you 80% more results and you can just keep doing that again and again." B2B founders should regularly audit their activities and ruthlessly eliminate even "best practices" that don't align with their specific growth dynamics. Design for mainstream adoption beyond early adopters: While most AI tools target Silicon Valley technologists, Tanay identified that 95% of the population represents the real market opportunity. He noted these users "end up being your most loyal users" because they have less churn and higher lifetime value than tech-savvy early adopters. B2B founders should resist the temptation to only build for sophisticated users and instead consider how their product works for less technically proficient buyers who may represent larger market segments. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Constrafor is revolutionizing how construction companies manage their back office operations, from procurement to embedded finance. With over $400 million in funding and 75,000 companies on their platform representing 25% of US construction companies, Constrafor has processed nearly $2 billion in invoice funding. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Anwar Ghauche, CEO and Founder of Constrafor, to learn about the company's journey from addressing subcontractor payment challenges to building an invisible automation platform for construction's back office. Topics Discussed: Constrafor's origin story and the strategic decision to target general contractors first to access subcontractors The company's evolution from construction procurement platform to comprehensive back office automation Constrafor's approach to embedded finance and the Early Pay product for subcontractors The challenge of building in construction tech during COVID-19 and early customer acquisition strategies Distribution strategies that evolved from manual outreach to leveraging customer referrals The company's vision for invisible software that eliminates manual back office work for subcontractors Why construction remains a technology laggard and how margin compression affects software adoption GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Turn industry warnings into competitive advantages: When mentors warned Anwar that subcontractors were hard to reach and general contractors were poor software buyers, he reframed this as validation. "Instead of taking it as a negative and kind of changing the idea, I took it as kind of validation that this is great. Just because nobody else was really going to try to go after the space." B2B founders should consider whether widespread industry skepticism might actually signal an underserved opportunity with less competition. Build an indirect go-to-market strategy when direct sales won't scale: Rather than pursuing expensive direct sales to thousands of small subcontractors, Constrafor sold to large general contractors at low margins to access their 300-400 subcontractors at once. This created a distribution channel that would have been impossible to build through traditional sales methods. B2B founders should identify intermediaries or platforms that can provide access to their true target customers at scale. Recognize product-market fit through pattern recognition: Anwar knew they had achieved product-market fit when they reached customer number 10-12 requesting exactly the same thing. "We didn't have to kind of study this whole thing from scratch as if we were dealing with it for the first time." B2B founders should look for the moment when customer requests become predictable and solutions become repeatable rather than focusing solely on revenue metrics. Prioritize sales team development over marketing in B2B: Constrafor crossed $1 million in annual revenue before building a marketing team, instead focusing on sales team structure and product-led lead generation. "We've tried to build out the product to generate the leads as opposed to having to rely on marketing for warming up the leads." B2B founders should consider whether their resources are better invested in sales infrastructure and product virality before traditional marketing efforts. Leverage unique data assets for thought leadership: With 25% market penetration, Constrafor began providing industry insights on insurance pricing, material costs, and project pipelines. This data-driven approach to content creation established them as a trusted voice in construction. B2B founders should identify unique data they collect through their platform and use these insights to build authority rather than creating generic educational content. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Connectbase is transforming how service providers buy and sell connectivity in what founder Ben Edmond calls "the connected world" - a massive $1.6 trillion industry that powers our entire digital infrastructure. With $70 million in funding, Connectbase serves 427+ service providers including 82% of the global Gartner Magic Quadrant, creating the ecosystem fabric that connects data centers, towers, fiber networks, and the thousands of providers that deliver connectivity services. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Ben Edmond, CEO and Founder of Connectbase, to learn about the company's journey from solving Excel spreadsheet chaos to building the digital backbone for an entire industry. Topics Discussed: Connectbase's rapid path from MVP to $1M ARR in 14 months without initial funding The three-layer architecture of the "connected world" industry ecosystem Building "location truth" as a core positioning strategy to unify fragmented data Evolving from "friends of Ben" sales approach to scalable go-to-market systems The strategic shift from product-focused selling to brand-driven market education Critical lessons from selling to wrong customers and wasting time on bright shiny objects Creating "categories of one" versus competing in crowded red ocean markets The 17 times rule for effective communication and message penetration in complex industries GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Ship fast when you deeply understand the customer problem: Ben launched Connectbase's first product just six months after starting the company, reaching $1M ARR 14 months later without initial funding. This speed was possible because he had lived the industry pain for years at companies like MCI. "I understood the problem very well," Ben explains. B2B founders with deep domain expertise should leverage that knowledge to move quickly from problem to solution rather than over-engineering initial products or getting trapped in endless customer discovery cycles. Resist the bright shiny object customer trap at all costs: Ben's biggest mistake was selling to consultants, real estate companies, and other customers outside his core ICP who seemed interested but weren't sustainable. "Selling to the wrong customers would probably be the number one thing," he reflects. "It's pretty easy for lots of people to deliver one time value and then move on, but it's not very valuable really focusing on customers that are going to get durable long term value and you're aligned to accelerating, supporting and uniquely positioned to help." B2B founders should resist revenue from customers outside their ideal customer profile, even when cash flow is tight, and focus exclusively on customers where they can deliver repeatable, long-term value. Time brand investment strategically around behavior change requirements: Around year three, Ben realized Connectbase needed to shift from direct sales to brand building because they were "fundamentally changing behavior and behavior is hard to change." The insight: when your solution requires market education and behavior modification, brand investment becomes more valuable than incremental sales tactics. B2B founders should time this transition carefully - after achieving product-market fit with core customers but before growth stalls due to market education barriers. Apply the "17 times rule" for message penetration in complex markets: Ben developed what he calls the "17 times rule" for market education: "If I don't say the same thing 17 times, you know, very confident that the words are not going to be completely understood and actioned on. But if I do, I'm going to get my point across and be relevant in positioning." This applies to both internal teams and external market positioning. B2B founders in complex industries should systematically track how many times key positioning concepts have been reinforced across all channels and customer touchpoints. Create categories of one by focusing on unique ecosystem positioning: Instead of competing in the crowded $35 billion telecom software space, Ben positioned Connectbase as the only "ecosystem fabric with location truth" for service providers. "I like categories of one instead of categories of many," he explains. B2B founders should identify unique positioning that combines multiple capabilities or approaches in ways competitors cannot easily replicate, rather than trying to be incrementally better at existing category definitions. Build revenue-focused marketing DNA from the foundation: Ben insists on hiring marketers who view themselves as part of the revenue engine, not just lead generators. "Vanity metrics, don't pay anyone's payroll. So you know, really focus on people that have a belief that marketing is part of the revenue engine and an important critical part and driving, you know, the marketing mix to get to close one customers and upsells and long term relationships." B2B founders should establish revenue accountability for all marketing hires and avoid the trap of optimizing for engagement metrics that don't drive business outcomes. Treat fundraising as partnership selection, not capital acquisition: Ben approaches investor selection "almost like getting married" - focusing on partners who understand the industry and can provide strategic value beyond capital. "Find the partners that actually understand your space that you operate in, be choosy, and partners that are going to, you know, help you move forward. Because business is hard... you want people in the corner with a belief and a set of skills and capabilities that are going to elevate you, challenge you, and make you better." B2B founders should prioritize investor expertise and long-term support over valuations, especially when building in specialized or complex industries. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Digit Software is transforming how manufacturers and distributors manage their operations through what they call a "system of progress" - an AI-powered alternative to traditional ERP systems. With $3.3 million in funding, Digit targets the 87% of U.S. companies with fewer than 50 employees who have been locked out of expensive legacy ERP systems. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Dan Koukol, CEO and Co-founder of Digit, to explore how his decade of consulting experience and hands-on CEO role at a manufacturing company shaped his vision for modernizing business operations software. Topics Discussed: Why ERP systems have remained frozen in time while other software categories evolved Digit's unique "framework-first" approach versus traditional module-based systems The company's successful turnaround of Prodigy Disc as proof of concept Creating a new category called "systems of progress" instead of competing in ERP Leveraging Reddit and AI search for B2B vertical SaaS marketing Building a marketing team of two that generates significant leverage through AI tools The beachhead strategy focusing on distributors and light manufacturers GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Turn operational experience into category insight: Dan's decade of consulting for 100+ manufacturers and distributors, plus his hands-on CEO experience at Prodigy Disc, gave him unique insights that pure tech founders lack. He explains, "I can tell you if you're a manufacturer, you probably have a workbench that, you know, you have old inventory shelf and some plywood over it that you know, work on your tooling. Like we've been in the day to day, we've gotten our shoes dirty." B2B founders should deeply embed themselves in their target customers' daily operations to build authentic understanding and credibility. Create blue ocean through strategic language positioning: Rather than competing head-to-head in the crowded ERP market, Dan positioned Digit as a "system of progress" - deliberately avoiding ERP terminology with its negative connotations of being "slow, rigid, expensive." He notes, "Digit's not an ERP is kind of the framing. We are a system of progress for a system of action." B2B category creators should identify existing category baggage and create new language that reframes the conversation around their unique value proposition. Provide framework before features: Unlike traditional ERPs that "throw a bunch of modules at you and let you fend for yourself," Digit starts with a comprehensive framework showing companies exactly what they should be doing to succeed. Dan describes it as "a 10 by 10 grid like in Excel, where the hundred cells represent everything as a company you need to be doing to be great." B2B founders should lead with strategic guidance and frameworks rather than just feature sets, especially when targeting less sophisticated buyers. Leverage emerging channels for B2B vertical SaaS: Dan discovered that Reddit became one of their best lead generation engines, with communities around specific legacy systems where users complain "thread after thread." They use Reddit for both product development insights and lead generation. B2B founders should explore non-traditional channels where their target customers gather to discuss pain points, especially in vertical markets. Optimize for AI search alongside traditional SEO: Digit intentionally strategies to get mentioned across AI models like ChatGPT, Grok, and Gemini, using YC company tools to measure AI mention frequency. Dan explains they're "actively doing" this measurement on their internal scorecard. B2B founders should develop parallel strategies for traditional search and AI recommendation engines, as customer discovery patterns evolve. Build efficient teams through AI leverage: With just a two-person marketing team, Digit generates significant output using AI tools like Google's VO3 for video production and various automation tools for personalized messaging. Dan emphasizes how "revenue per employee, that metric is going way up" due to AI capabilities. B2B founders should prioritize AI-powered efficiency over headcount growth, especially in go-to-market functions. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
DermaSensor has developed the first FDA-cleared, AI-powered skin cancer detection device specifically designed for primary care physicians. After spending $27 million on R&D over eight years and conducting 15 clinical studies, the company received FDA clearance in January 2024. Using elastic scattering spectroscopy, the device analyzes cellular and subcellular structures in skin tissue—the same characteristics pathologists examine under microscopes—to provide objective skin cancer risk assessments in under 30 seconds. In this episode, CEO Cody Simmons shares the journey from Boston University research lab to commercial deployment across hundreds of medical practices. Topics Discussed: DermaSensor's eight-year development journey from 30-pound research devices to handheld commercial products The FDA clearance process requiring five pre-submission meetings and over 10,000 pages of documentation Strategic decision to target primary care physicians rather than dermatologists based on competitive intelligence Clinical validation showing device accuracy matches in-person dermatologist assessments Commercial launch strategy achieving coverage from major media outlets without a major PR firm Rapid adoption by hundreds of private practices within the first year post-clearance GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Learn from competitive failures before choosing your market: Cody observed companies spending "literally hundreds of millions of dollars" targeting dermatologists with similar devices, only to see them "commercially immediately fizzled out" within 2-4 years. Dermatologists, being experts, were confident in their existing processes and questioned why they needed additional tools. This competitive intelligence led DermaSensor to target primary care physicians who welcomed objective second opinions. B2B founders should study why similar solutions failed in adjacent markets and identify underserved segments where their value proposition resonates more strongly. Align your commercial strategy with regulatory requirements years in advance: Cody emphasized that you must "align your plan like your commercial plan with your study" and your FDA indication for use, determining "who's actually approved to use the device for what purpose." This planning must happen years before approval since clinical studies are designed around the intended commercial application. B2B founders in regulated industries should work backwards from their go-to-market strategy when designing regulatory pathways, ensuring clinical evidence supports their target market and use cases. FDA clearance itself can be your biggest PR moment: DermaSensor achieved coverage on ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, Forbes, Reuters, and Time Magazine's Best Inventions list primarily because "the FDA clearance itself was so big" for a first-in-class device addressing "the most common cancer." They worked with only an independent PR consultant, not a major firm. B2B founders should recognize that major regulatory milestones, especially for novel technologies, inherently generate media interest and plan their launch communications accordingly. Prioritize speed and simplicity when displacing manual processes: The device works in "less than 30 seconds" from pickup to result, addressing primary care physicians who previously had to rely on visual assessment with minimal dermatology training (only "two to four hours of training in medical school"). The combination of speed, objectivity, and ease of use made adoption attractive to non-specialists. B2B founders should design solutions that are dramatically faster and more accurate than existing manual processes, especially when targeting users who lack specialized expertise. Private practices adopt faster than health systems but both are essential: Cody noted that "private practices, because they make decisions so quickly" with "one or two doctors that run the practice" were able to rapidly adopt the technology. However, health systems provide validation and scale. The company focused on building "that whole ecosystem" where "health systems using a private practice, using it. Dermatologists are aware of it." B2B founders should sequence their go-to-market to capture quick wins from agile smaller customers while simultaneously pursuing enterprise accounts for long-term growth and market credibility. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Prior Labs is pioneering foundation models for structured data, bringing transformer technology from the generative AI world to tabular data that sits in databases and spreadsheets across every business. With $9 million in funding and over 1.5 million downloads of their open-source model, Prior Labs is revolutionizing how data scientists work with structured data by creating universal models that can handle multiple use cases instead of requiring custom models for each specific application. In this episode, I sat down with Sauraj Gambhir, Co-Founder of Prior Labs, to explore how they're transforming machine learning workflows from taking days to seconds and building a global community around their breakthrough technology. Topics Discussed: Prior Labs' mission to bring transformer technology to structured data and tabular datasets The transition from traditional 20-year-old machine learning methods to universal foundation models Building a horizontal product that serves data scientists across finance, healthcare, and scientific research The company's open-source strategy with 1.5 million downloads and community-driven development Social media and community-building tactics that drove adoption across LinkedIn, Twitter, and Discord Scaling from 3 to 16 team members in seven months while maintaining technical focus Fundraising strategy for AI companies and the balance between raising enough capital without over-inflating Plans for geographic expansion from Berlin to the US market GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Lead with open source for technical audiences: Prior Labs built their entire go-to-market strategy around an open-source model that anyone can download and use for free. Sauraj explained, "We've got like over one and a half million downloads and it is open source. You just need to attribute us that you're using our model." This approach allowed them to achieve massive adoption while building credibility with their technical audience. B2B founders targeting developers or technical users should consider how open source can accelerate adoption and community building before monetization. Build community ownership, not just engagement: Sauraj approaches community building like team building, saying, "If you think about your team as a founder, like when you build a team, you want them to feel like it's their company... I'm trying to take that same philosophy towards community building." He creates biweekly Discord updates where half the content showcases community contributions, leading members to actively submit their use cases and request features. B2B founders should design community programs that make users feel like co-creators rather than passive consumers. Leverage co-founder networks strategically for different audiences: Prior Labs uses each co-founder's unique network to reach different segments. Sauraj noted, "One of my co founders has been a professor of machine learning for the last 12 years. So he already had a pretty good following of let's say the data science community... when we need to generate inbound, I'm the one pushing when we need to like generate more technical applications for people to apply for jobs with us. We're going through my co founders networks." B2B founders should map their founding team's networks and assign go-to-market responsibilities based on audience alignment rather than traditional roles. Focus adoption over monetization in emerging categories: Despite having paying customers, Prior Labs keeps their API free and focuses entirely on adoption metrics. Sauraj explained, "Right now we are offering it for free because we just want like adoption is really the biggest use case at the moment... when we have like the next versions of the models, that's really when we're going to be able to flip the switch." In category creation, B2B founders should prioritize proving product-market fit and building market awareness before optimizing revenue, especially when building foundational technology. Use technical documentation as brand building: Instead of focusing on traditional marketing materials, Prior Labs invested heavily in developer-focused assets. Sauraj said, "We were really focused on getting really good docs in place, really good, like GitHub read me in place. And the brand was really kind of like building this community and being like open and honest with the community." B2B founders serving technical audiences should treat documentation, GitHub presence, and developer resources as primary brand touchpoints rather than secondary marketing materials. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Staris AI is pioneering a new approach to application security, moving beyond traditional vulnerability scanning to create what they call "total context security." With $5.7 million in funding, the company is building an AI-powered platform that doesn't just find security issues but provides complete context about business risk and automated fixes. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Adam Cecchetti, CEO and Co-Founder of Staris AI, to learn about his transition from bootstrap founder to venture-backed CEO and his vision for creating an immune system for applications on the internet. Topics Discussed: The evolution from bootstrap companies to venture-backed scaling How 200+ customer discovery conversations shaped Staris AI's product direction Creating the "total context security" category in a crowded application security market The impact of AI on both security threats and solutions Building founder-led sales processes before transitioning to broader marketing Long-term vision of creating an immune system for internet applications GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Conduct extensive customer discovery before building: Adam and his co-founder talked to over 200 CISOs, CTOs, and CIOs before finalizing their product direction. The key insight: "People do not need more to do. They do not need more work, they do not need more bugs. They don't need bugs cheaper or better or faster. They really need this problem to start shrinking." This extensive research revealed that the market didn't need another tool to find vulnerabilities—they needed solutions that actually reduced their security workload. Define what you don't do to clarify positioning: Adam shared a powerful insight from his previous company: "I sold more work telling people what I didn't do versus what we did do." In crowded markets like security, clearly articulating what you don't do helps prospects understand your unique value proposition. For Staris AI, being explicit about not being "an ASPM" or other specific security categories helps differentiate their total context approach. Leverage founder networks for initial traction: Rather than launching broad marketing campaigns, Adam is using his 25 years of industry relationships for initial customer acquisition. "We're going back to a lot of our people we had talked to initially when we started the company, as well as some old customers and colleagues and friends to be able to say, hey, let's do some proof of concepts." This approach allows for rapid iteration and product refinement based on trusted customer feedback. Create category names that are immediately understandable: While evaluating options like "next gen pen testing" and "AI security co-pilots," Adam chose "total context security" because it clearly communicates value. The name immediately conveys what the solution does—providing complete context at every step of the security process. In technical markets, clarity often beats cleverness in category naming. Time market expansion carefully: Despite having funding and proven traction, Adam is deliberately waiting until Q4 to ramp marketing efforts. "We've been really laser-like focused on building a great product, getting a good story for our customers, understanding what truly provides them value before we kind of went out and mass broadcasted that message." This disciplined approach ensures product-market fit before scaling go-to-market efforts. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Dusty Robotics is pioneering construction automation with a multi-stage product that spans from planning to installation. At its core is an automated layout robot that takes digital building plans and prints them directly on construction sites, preserving digital quality throughout the entire construction process. With $69.5 million in funding, Dusty has established itself as the market leader in construction robotics. In this episode of Category Visionaries, Tessa Lau shares her journey from accidentally getting their first $5,000 invoice to creating "The Dusty Way" - a new method for construction that promises higher quality, less rework, and greater profitability. Topics Discussed: Dusty's evolution from a "drop-in replacement" positioning to creating an entirely new construction method The accidental path to their first paying customer and learning to price robotics services Strategic positioning evolution: from robot features to outcomes-based messaging Building market leadership in construction robotics through public testing and iteration Creating "The Dusty Way" as a category-defining methodology with ChatGPT's help Event-driven marketing strategy for the tactile, physical construction industry The challenge of focusing on one ideal customer profile when the technology works across multiple segments Co-creating methodology with customers rather than dictating new processes to industry experts GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Build in public, especially for hardware: Tessa's top advice for robotics founders is "Don't be in stealth. Stealth is stupid." Since hardware companies typically only get 1-2 shots on goal due to time and capital constraints, you must validate market demand before building. Dusty spent their first year doing free "print jobs" in public, gathering feedback and iterating monthly. This public approach not only validated their technology but also built market awareness and credibility. Position for comfort first, expand the vision later: When introducing new technology, Dusty initially positioned their robot as a "drop-in replacement for a guy with a chalkbox and a measuring tape." This made customers comfortable because it required no process changes and was low-risk. Only after establishing market trust did they expand to positioning themselves as creating an entirely new construction methodology. B2B founders should start with familiar positioning that reduces buyer risk, then gradually expand their vision as trust builds. Solve for outcomes, not features: Tessa emphasizes the constant battle against feature-focused messaging: "Our customers don't buy robot, they need an outcome." Instead of highlighting technical specs like "16th vintage accurate" or "10 times faster," successful messaging focuses on what customers actually care about: quality, certainty, and predictability. This shift from product features to business outcomes is critical for technology companies selling into traditional industries. Leverage AI for strategic breakthrough thinking: The "Dusty Way" concept emerged from Tessa's ChatGPT conversations about breaking out of the "robot trap" where customers viewed them as a project tool rather than a strategic platform. ChatGPT suggested framing their offering as "a trusted method for doing construction," which became the foundation for their category creation strategy. B2B founders should consider AI as a brainstorming partner for strategic challenges, not just operational tasks. Events are critical for physical product adoption: In construction, "seeing is believing" because buyers are "physical thinkers, not abstract thinkers." Dusty's event strategy centers on live robot demonstrations, often becoming "the best show on the floor" because they're so different from typical software booths. They print multi-trade layouts continuously throughout conferences, allowing attendees to see the technology in action. B2B founders with physical products should prioritize live demonstrations and tactile experiences over traditional software marketing approaches. Focus timing: Identify your first bowling pin: Dusty's biggest current challenge is focusing on one core customer segment despite having a product that works across multiple construction markets. Tessa emphasizes the discipline required to pick one "bowling pin" customer type, master that segment, then expand to adjacent segments. The key is setting specific dates for when you'll address other ICPs, making the focus decision feel temporary rather than permanent. This approach reduces the psychological difficulty of saying no to revenue opportunities. Construction is not one market: Tessa's key advice for construction tech founders is recognizing that construction consists of many distinct markets with different buyers, value propositions, and payment capabilities. Even within a single project, different stakeholders have vastly different needs and budgets. Success requires choosing one specific segment early and deeply understanding their unique pain points, decision-making process, and implementation requirements. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Tera AI is pioneering a software-centric approach to robotics, moving away from traditional hardware-dominated solutions toward a unified operating system for robotic platforms. After raising $8 million and transitioning from insurance applications to robotics, the company is building what founder Tony Zhang envisions as "a general purpose operating system for robot platforms" powered by spatial foundation models. In this episode of Category Visionaries, Tony shares his journey from Google X to founding Tera AI, including hard-won lessons about market validation, customer discovery, and the critical importance of understanding buyer priorities. Topics Discussed: Tera AI's evolution from geospatial foundation models in insurance to robotics applications The challenges of customer discovery in regulated industries like insurance Tony's experience at Google X and the ChatGPT moment that sparked entrepreneurial action First Round's Product Market Fit program and structured customer discovery methodology The transition from hardware-centric to software-centric robotics architecture Fundraising strategies and developing instincts for investor feedback Building a team of top-tier AI researchers in a competitive talent market GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Lead with priority validation, not pain discovery: Tony learned the hard way that not every pain point can be solved on a VC timeline. His breakthrough insight was asking upfront: "Tell me if this is one of your top three priorities. If not, tell me what are those three priorities." He discovered that many insurance prospects liked their solution but had more pressing infrastructure problems unrelated to AI. B2B founders should qualify buyer priorities before presenting solutions to avoid getting trapped in lengthy sales cycles for non-critical problems. Understand regulatory constraints early in enterprise markets: Tera AI spent nearly a year in insurance before realizing that regulatory barriers made technology adoption extremely difficult, regardless of product-market fit. Tony explains: "Because of the regulations in America, it is incredibly difficult for an insurer or carrier to adopt new technology, especially technology that was as new as the stuff that we were building." Founders entering regulated industries should map compliance requirements and adoption timelines before committing significant resources. Structure customer discovery to eliminate waste: Through First Round's PMF program, Tony discovered they were doing discovery calls inefficiently, often requiring multiple meetings with the same prospects. The key insight was asking the right qualifying questions upfront rather than leading with solutions. This approach eliminated unnecessary follow-up meetings and accelerated their discovery process by 5x. Founders should develop structured discovery frameworks with clear qualifying criteria before scaling outreach efforts. Market timing requires both technology readiness and buyer urgency: Tony's "ChatGPT moment" wasn't just about technological possibility—it was about recognizing the convergence of technical capability and market readiness. He emphasizes: "It wasn't too early, it wasn't too late." The key was understanding that spatial AI could finally deliver value that buyers were ready to adopt. Founders should evaluate both technical feasibility and market timing when deciding on startup opportunities. Attract talent with novel technical challenges, not just compensation: Despite intense competition for AI talent in Silicon Valley, Tera AI successfully recruits top researchers by offering genuinely innovative work. Tony explains: "We genuinely try to innovate across the entire stack. We build our own models, we build our own datasets, we can write papers on the things we're doing." They target researchers who are "bored to death by the LLM world" and want to work on groundbreaking spatial AI problems. B2B founders should differentiate their companies through technical novelty and research opportunities, not just competitive salaries. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Chain.io is a vertical integration platform deeply embedded in the shipping and logistics space, helping connect massive freight companies with retail brands through the millions of messages required to track shipments and navigate customs. With $18 million in funding, the company has positioned itself as critical infrastructure for an industry that became front-page news during COVID. In this episode, Brian Glick shares hard-won lessons about building in a legacy industry, the realities of enterprise sales cycles, and why he never took himself out of the sales process. Topics Discussed: Building vertical iPaaS for logistics before the category existed in supply chain How COVID accelerated understanding of data movement as a strategic problem The challenge of selling complex integration technology to legacy industries Transitioning from founder-led sales while maintaining founder involvement Using podcasting as relationship-building infrastructure for 10-year customer lifecycles Building authentic employee thought leadership without formal programs The impact of AI on traditional integration and data movement businesses GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Don't fully remove yourself from enterprise sales—strategically deploy your founder advantage: Brian learned that completely stepping back from sales was a mistake. Instead, he discovered the power of strategic founder involvement: "As a founder I am an incredible asset to my team, but that doesn't mean I have to be on every meeting." He now enters deals at the beginning to build relationships, trusts his sales team to advance opportunities, then returns at crucial moments to help close negotiations. This approach maximizes founder value while empowering the sales team. Timing pain points matters more than pain intensity: Chain.io experienced a counterintuitive sales pattern during COVID—initial uptick as customers felt pain, followed by a downturn when pain became overwhelming. Brian observed: "A little bit of pain is good for sales... when it gets too much pain, people freeze up." B2B founders should recognize that acute customer pain creates urgency, but excessive pain paralyzes decision-making. The sweet spot is when customers feel enough discomfort to act but retain capacity to evaluate new solutions. Legacy industries require relationship-based, not scale-based GTM motions: After trying to build a "standard SaaS BDR SDR style go-to-market machine," Brian realized it was wrong for both his market timing and industry culture. He pivoted back to relationship-driven sales focused on live events and consultative engagement. For enterprise logistics customers making decisions that affect 40 countries, "nothing is simple and no decision is made by one person who's going to click a buy now button." Founders in traditional industries should think more like SAP than HubSpot. Use podcasting as relationship infrastructure, not lead generation: Brian launched his podcast "almost day one" as free marketing, but discovered its real value in relationship building for long sales cycles. He doesn't track metrics or measure ROI traditionally, noting: "I know that I've gotten a CIO of a major freight company... [who] sent me a screenshot of my podcast... and I know how much that one customer pays me is more than I've ever invested in the podcast." For B2B founders with complex sales cycles, content should build relationships rather than optimize for attribution. Build category understanding through customer education, not just problem-solving: When Chain.io launched in 2017, "that category did not exist in supply chain." Brian spent years helping customers understand that data movement was a strategic, first-tier problem rather than something "you tack on the end of some other project." Category creation often requires patient market education—founders must be prepared to invest in customer understanding before expecting rapid adoption, especially in conservative industries. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
ZITADEL is pioneering the next generation of identity infrastructure, providing a developer-first platform that handles everything from basic authentication to complex multi-tenant B2B scenarios. With $11.5 million in funding and a unique open-source approach, ZITADEL has positioned itself as the "GitLab for identity" - offering both self-hosted and SaaS deployment options while maintaining flexibility through comprehensive APIs. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Florian Forster, CEO and Co-Founder of ZITADEL, who recently relocated from Switzerland to the Bay Area to accelerate the company's go-to-market efforts and tap into the massive US opportunity. Topics Discussed: ZITADEL's comprehensive identity platform covering authentication, authorization, and multi-tenant scenarios The company's innovative dual-licensing approach combining AGPL open source with commercial offerings Florian's strategic decision to relocate his entire family from Switzerland to the Bay Area The evolution from per-user pricing to capability-based pricing models Building a global team across three regions: Europe for engineering, US for go-to-market, and Argentina for customer success Marketing strategy focused 80/20 on developers versus buyers Cultural differences between European and American go-to-market approaches Future vision for AI risk mitigation and behavioral analytics in identity management GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Embrace "cash or code" open source strategy: Florian introduced the concept of "cash or code" - users either pay for commercial features or contribute meaningfully to the open source project. ZITADEL's shift from Apache to AGPL licensing ensures that free users contribute back to the community while commercial customers get enterprise features and SLAs. This dual-licensing approach creates sustainable economics while building a strong community foundation. Rethink pricing to align with customer value creation: ZITADEL is moving away from per-user pricing because, as Florian explains, "we are the system that makes users useful. So if we hinder our customers on creating users in the first place, it kind of defeats the whole idea." Instead, they're shifting to capability-based pricing where customers pay for specific features like compliance notifications rather than user seats. This removes friction from customer growth and better aligns pricing with actual value delivered. Focus marketing efforts on developers, not just buyers: ZITADEL discovered that an 80/20 split between developer-focused and buyer-focused marketing works best. Florian notes that "targeting the developer ultimately leads to us being in the debate when somebody procures a system like ours." Developers do the initial evaluation and recommendation, so winning them over is crucial for getting into procurement discussions with buyers. Leverage geographic arbitrage strategically: ZITADEL operates across three regions - Europe for core engineering (quality engineers at $100-250K vs $250-500K in Bay Area), US for go-to-market, and Argentina for customer success and sales engineering. This approach optimizes for both cost efficiency and timezone coverage while maintaining quality across all functions. Adapt messaging for cultural differences: Moving from Switzerland to the US taught Florian that "in US marketing, things get overinflated quite severely, but the buyer knows that and automatically deducts some of it." Europeans tend to under-market solid products, while US buyers expect and discount for marketing inflation. B2B founders must calibrate their messaging appropriately for different markets and buyer expectations. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
New Sun Road is an energy tech company pioneering the acceleration of renewable energy deployment through their IoT and cloud-based platform. As a public benefit corporation, they focus on underserved communities while managing over 1,500 systems across diverse applications from wildfire mitigation with PG&E to remote telecommunications towers. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with CEO Adrienne Pierce to explore how they've built a platform that serves as the "brain" for distributed energy systems and their unique approach to go-to-market in the complex energy sector. Topics Discussed: New Sun Road's evolution from energy access solutions to comprehensive renewable energy platform management The company's IoT and cloud-based approach to monitoring and controlling distributed energy resources Their diverse customer base spanning solar installers, utilities, telecommunications, and remote communities The complexity of 6-18 month sales cycles in energy infrastructure projects Strategic pivot from sector-focused to partner-enabled go-to-market approach Operating as a public benefit corporation and its impact on team alignment and business development Navigating regulatory changes and their delayed impact on project timelines Thought leadership strategy around emerging technologies like vehicle-to-grid and networked microgrids GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Partner with domain experts rather than becoming one yourself: Adrienne explained their strategic shift: "We started with kind of a sector strategy where we're like, oh, we can do electric vehicles... But what we found was that it's very hard to be experts in all of these different sectors." Instead of trying to master every vertical, they focused on being the best at what they do—energy management technology—and partnered with domain experts in each sector. B2B founders should resist the temptation to become everything to everyone and instead find strong partners who can complement their core competencies. Focus resources on highest-impact activities in resource-constrained environments: Pierce emphasized the critical importance of opportunity cost for small organizations: "For small organizations, I think the biggest cost is opportunity cost. So if I'm spending my time chasing leads and doing lead gen and that's where my resources are going, then it may be at the behest of something that's more productive." B2B founders must ruthlessly prioritize activities that drive the most value and avoid spreading thin across low-yield activities, especially in early stages when every hour counts. Build for complex, consultative sales cycles with technical buyers: With sales cycles ranging 6-18 months, New Sun Road's approach centers on deep technical engagement: "We are at the heart of what the project is doing from a control and performance perspective, you know, there are a lot of things to just make sure that we're aligned on and develop a really strong partnership." B2B founders selling to technical buyers in complex infrastructure projects should invest heavily in technical credibility and relationship-building rather than traditional sales tactics. Leverage authenticity as a differentiator in purpose-driven markets: As a public benefit corporation, Pierce noted: "It has channeled and been a differentiator for what we're doing and how we're doing it... it's created an amazing team environment." When your market values purpose alongside profit, authentic commitment to mission can become a significant competitive advantage. B2B founders should consider how genuine purpose alignment can strengthen both team cohesion and customer relationships, but only if the commitment is authentic. Anticipate regulatory lag in heavily regulated industries: Pierce shared valuable insight about regulatory timing: "One thing about regulation is that there is lag. So you can change the regulation and it takes a while for it to trickle down and to have impact... when I look at changing regulation, I'm looking at, well, how is that going to impact 2026?" B2B founders in regulated industries should build regulatory change anticipation into their product roadmap and sales strategy, understanding that today's regulatory shifts create tomorrow's market opportunities. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
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Thoras AI is pioneering a new category in infrastructure optimization, transforming how engineering teams manage workload efficiency through predictive scaling. Co-founded by twin sisters Nilo and her sibling who worked as reliability engineers for a decade, Thoras AI addresses the reactive nature of traditional infrastructure management. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Nilo Rahmani, CEO and Co-Founder of Thoras AI, to learn about their journey from frustrated on-call engineers to building an AI-powered platform that helps reliability teams optimize performance while maintaining application integrity. Topics Discussed: The unique dynamic of co-founding a company with your twin sister Thoras AI's approach to predictive scaling as a wedge into broader infrastructure automation The company's differentiation from pure finops/cost optimization tools by prioritizing reliability Building a premium brand identity that stands out in the crowded AI infrastructure space The evolution from customer discovery to product-market fit through organic outreach Creating a new category at the intersection of AI and infrastructure optimization GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Stop coding and start talking to customers first: Nilo's biggest breakthrough came when a Bay Area advisor told her to "stop coding and start talking." Instead of building an MVP in isolation, they spent months conducting customer discovery across the country. This approach revealed genuine pain points and validated demand before writing a single line of code. B2B founders should resist the engineer's instinct to build first and instead invest heavily in understanding customer problems through direct conversation. Validate demand through organic outreach, not friends and family: Thoras AI deliberately avoided selling to their network, choosing instead to validate their solution with complete strangers. Every customer has come through pure organic outreach, providing genuine validation that people truly need the solution rather than doing founders a favor. This approach builds confidence that the product solves real problems and creates a stronger foundation for scaling. Focus on reliability first, cost savings second: While many competitors position themselves as cost optimization tools, Thoras AI differentiated by prioritizing application reliability and integrity. As Nilo explains, "For the reliability engineer, any attention on us because of an outage is bad attention." This positioning resonates with their target buyers who view uptime as more critical than cost savings, creating a sustainable competitive advantage. Use premium branding to elevate your industry: Thoras AI intentionally created a consumer-grade brand aesthetic to stand out in the sea of generic B2B tools. Their approach makes reliability professionals "feel like they're elevating not only their role, but their entire team" by using a brand that understands their pain points without marketing fluff. B2B founders should consider how premium branding can differentiate their solution and make customers proud to use it. Build category definition around customer problems, not technology: Rather than leading with AI capabilities, Thoras AI positions itself around the specific problems reliability engineers face - automation, efficiency, and reducing manual fine-tuning. They're creating a category for "optimization and efficiency" rather than forcing their solution into existing categories like finops or observability. Founders should let customer problems define their category rather than starting with technology capabilities. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Benivo is revolutionizing how enterprises manage their global workforce through HR technology focused on Global Mobility teams. With $30 million in funding, the company has evolved from a failed Airbnb competitor into a thriving B2B platform serving major clients like Google, Microsoft, and Bayer. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Nitzan Yudan, CEO and Founder of Benivo, to explore the company's dramatic pivot, their "sell-first, build-later" methodology, and how they've built a lean go-to-market engine that leverages AI and community selling to compete with established players. Topics Discussed: Benivo's dramatic pivot from an Airbnb competitor to enterprise HR tech The "sell-first, build-later" methodology that became company DNA How they closed Google with "the ugliest page in the history of Internet pages" Building relationships with enterprise decision-makers through weekly Saturday emails The costly mistake of trying to create a new category versus meeting buyers where they are Community selling strategies including LinkedIn Live shows and industry recognition campaigns Using AI to create efficient go-to-market operations with a team under 10 people Custom AI tools for sales coaching, RFP responses, and prospect management GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Always sell first, then build: Nitzan's core principle is "sell-first, build-later" - a methodology born from their Google deal where they sold a solution using "the ugliest page in the history of Internet pages" and delivered manually for six months before building the actual product. This approach validates real customer demand and reveals what actually needs to be built versus what founders assume should be built. Enterprise sales is about selling yourself, not your product: Success with major clients like Google, Microsoft, and Bayer came from building deep personal relationships with decision-makers. Nitzan describes knowing the names of his prospects' children and their preferences - emphasizing that enterprise buyers are investing in people and relationships, not just features. One client relationship was maintained through weekly Saturday evening emails for months before an opportunity materialized. Match your messaging to how buyers actually buy: Benivo initially tried to create a new category by positioning themselves as a "two-for-one" solution replacing multiple industry layers. This confused buyers who didn't understand how to purchase within their existing procurement processes. When they repositioned to match existing category terminology that buyers recognized, RFP invitations and sales began flowing. The lesson: don't let category creation ambitions override buyer convenience. Leverage community selling for efficient go-to-market: With only 7-8 people in their entire go-to-market team, Benivo built a powerful community strategy including a LinkedIn Live show hosted by an industry luminary, annual "Top 100" recognition campaigns, and a 200-person "Change Maker Network" that includes prospects, customers, and even lost deals. This approach builds trust and allows enterprise buyers to engage with the company culture before making career-impacting decisions. Build custom AI tools for competitive advantage: Rather than relying on expensive purpose-built sales tools, Benivo creates custom AI solutions using basic tools like Gemini and Make.com. Their system automatically transcribes sales calls, scores deals using their MEDPIQ methodology, coaches salespeople on next steps, and generates follow-up emails. They've also built AI tools that reduce RFP response time by 70-80% by training models on their best historical responses and client-specific strategy documents. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Authvia is pioneering conversational commerce, building the infrastructure that enables businesses to accept payments through text messages, WhatsApp, and other messaging platforms. With $30 million in funding raised, the company has connected over 250 payment processors and gateways with 300+ messaging networks globally, creating a seamless payment experience that Chris Brunner believes will become bigger than traditional e-commerce. In this episode, Chris shares his journey from identifying SMS as the most ubiquitous communication channel to building a platform that processes payments with just a four-digit code, all while navigating the complex world of channel partnerships and enterprise sales. Topics Discussed: The evolution from app fatigue to messaging-first commerce solutions Building infrastructure that connects 250+ payment processors with 300+ messaging networks The challenge of creating a new payment category without established buyers or budgets Why channel partnerships take years to mature but ultimately provide massive scale The technical innovation behind tokenized payments over messaging platforms How regulatory compliance and paper elimination drive enterprise adoption GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Sometimes being early means waiting for the market to catch up: Chris spent years building Authvia before the market was ready, describing how "channels sit" for years before they eventually activate. He emphasizes that conviction in your vision is crucial when you're ahead of market demand. B2B founders building transformative solutions should prepare for extended timelines and focus on building deep partnerships that will pay off when the market matures. Focus on the financial buyer when there's no established category: Without a clear buyer or budget line item, Chris found success by targeting CFOs and finance teams who could immediately see the cash flow impact of faster payments. He noted, "When you get into the office of the CFO, that group cares... I can get what was going to be paid in 30 days, paid in two hours." B2B founders should identify who benefits most financially from their solution and lead with those metrics. Build infrastructure that makes partners look good: Rather than trying to sell standalone solutions, Chris focused on creating technology that could be white-labeled by major payment and messaging companies. He explained, "Getting them to sell your stuff that looks and feels like your stuff is next to impossible. Getting them to sell their stuff that looks and feels like them is the home run." B2B founders should consider how their technology can enhance partners' existing offerings rather than compete with them. Channel partnerships require massive upfront investment: Chris candidly shared that the first five years of channel partnerships showed little return, saying "channels sit, right? And channels do nothing until they eventually do." However, this strategy ultimately provided access to enterprise customers that would have been impossible to reach directly. B2B founders pursuing channel strategies should prepare for long development cycles and ensure they have sufficient runway. Target the intersection of multiple pain points: Authvia succeeds by solving messaging, payments, and compliance challenges simultaneously. Chris described how customers quickly identify 17 different use cases once they understand the platform. B2B founders should look for solutions that address multiple related problems rather than point solutions, as this creates stronger value propositions and higher switching costs. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Yard Stick is pioneering the measurement of soil carbon, addressing one of the most invisible yet critical components of climate solutions. With $18 million in funding, the company has developed spectral measurement technology that quantifies soil carbon stocks at field level—unlocking the potential of agricultural systems that store many times more carbon than all plant and animal biomass combined. In this episode, we sat down with Chris Tolles, CEO and Co-Founder of Yard Stick, to explore how they're commercializing breakthrough soil science, navigating a skeptical market, and building trust in the emerging voluntary carbon market. Topics Discussed: The critical role of soil carbon in climate solutions versus traditional forest carbon storage Yard Stick's origin story during COVID-19 and meeting co-founders in a Slack group How the Department of Energy's Smart Farm program catalyzed soil carbon measurement technology The connection between agricultural feedstocks, biofuels, and carbon intensity measurements Building credibility in a scientifically skeptical field through academic publishing Marketing strategy centered on trust-building rather than traditional tech company approaches The challenge of creating a new market category for soil carbon measurement services GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Lead with scientific credibility when entering skeptical markets: Chris made the deliberate decision to publish in Geoderma, the world's top soil science journal, despite the pain and slowness of academic publishing. He explains, "Because we're operating in an industry with so much suspicion around measurement and we're trying to make a claim that we're replacing an alternative existing mature measurement technology, I just didn't see a world in which I could sleep at night without the rigor that scientific publishing represents." B2B founders entering fields with established scientific communities should prioritize credibility over speed, especially when challenging existing measurement standards. Be radically transparent about limitations to build trust: Rather than overselling capabilities, Yard Stick proactively discloses their technology's current limitations. Chris notes, "I think we are way above average, candid about the opportunity and the limitations of our technology with our customers... just like put your liabilities on the table. Then when a customer does say yes, despite those risks, you're all on the same page about what to expect." This approach is particularly powerful in technical fields where customers have sophisticated evaluation capabilities. Participate authentically in existing industry establishments: Instead of positioning as disruptors, Yard Stick actively participates in traditional soil science conferences and communities. Chris emphasizes, "We go to the Soil Science Society of America's annual meeting, we present there, we have real scientists present there. Being able to hang on their terms is important." B2B founders should consider how to earn credibility within existing professional communities rather than trying to bypass them entirely. Focus on enabling customer success rather than fighting competitors: Chris takes a "big tent" approach to the climate solutions space, refusing to position against other carbon removal technologies. He explains, "I see a lot of people in the soil ecosystem fight for their teeny little sliver of airtime by talking down to engineered solutions... I think that's a waste of time because we need all of these solutions to be successful in order for the whole ecosystem to grow." This collaborative positioning helps expand the overall market opportunity. Build your go-to-market strategy around regulatory tailwinds: Yard Stick's timing aligned perfectly with Department of Energy initiatives to reduce carbon intensity in agricultural feedstocks. Chris explains how they capitalized on the DOE's Smart Farm program, which recognized the need for field-level emissions measurement. B2B founders should identify regulatory or policy drivers that create urgency for their solutions and align their market entry accordingly. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
NEURA Robotics is transforming the robotics industry by building cognitive robots powered by physical AI. With €120 million raised and 5,000-10,000 robots already deployed, the company has set an ambitious goal of deploying 5 million robots by 2030. In this episode, I sat down with David Reger, CEO and Founder of NEURA Robotics, to explore how his company is solving the reliability and adoption challenges that have kept robotics a niche market, and his vision for making robots as ubiquitous as smartphones. Topics Discussed: NEURA's partnership-driven go-to-market strategy using horizontal and vertical partners The company's unique physical AI model built specifically for embodied intelligence Current deployment of household robots starting with elderly care applications The challenge of raising hardware funding in Europe versus Japan and China Building cognitive robots that can operate with limited compute and bandwidth Creating a platform ecosystem where partners can download skills and applications The regulatory and cultural barriers to robot adoption in different markets NEURA's recent partnership with SAP and strategy to become Europe's next €100 billion company GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Leverage established channels for reliability-critical products: David built NEURA's entire go-to-market strategy around partnering with established robot companies rather than direct sales. He recognized that for reliability-critical hardware like robots, startups face an inherent trust deficit. "If you're talking about robots, there's all about reliability, it's all about trust because it has to run 24/7... And if you're looking into strength of a startup, that's exactly the point. Like this is something you don't have." B2B founders in hardware or mission-critical software should consider white-label partnerships with established players who already have the service infrastructure and customer trust. Build horizontal and vertical partnership ecosystems simultaneously: NEURA created a dual partnership model - horizontal partners (robot manufacturers) for broad distribution and vertical partners (domain specialists like welding or household task companies) for specialized applications. This creates a platform effect where "our partners don't have to have the knowledge, but they can simply download, let's say an app or a skill and they can use the robot like in all kinds of different domains." B2B founders should consider how to enable both broad distribution and deep specialization through complementary partnership types. Target markets where regulatory shifts create urgency: David identified that China's 2030 goal of transforming 5% of working labor to robotics (40 million robots) would force global competition. "The whole world has to, let's say, also wake up in the same time... because if we don't want to end up, let's say as a museum, we have to also contribute." B2B founders should identify geopolitical or regulatory shifts that create market urgency and position their solutions as necessary responses to competitive pressure. Raise capital in markets that understand your technology: When European and US investors were skeptical of hardware, David found receptive investors in Japan who "believe in robots" and understood the market potential. He eventually had to pivot to China for speed, then later successfully raised €120 million in Europe when the market shifted. B2B founders should be willing to pursue capital in non-obvious geographies where their technology vision is better understood, even if it requires navigating different business cultures. Focus on physical AI differentiation for embodied products: David emphasized that NEURA's competitive advantage lies in their physical AI model: "I do believe that like our AI model is one of the, let's say it's the best in the world in that space, because simply it's much more efficient and actually built for being physical, while the most other models are not." B2B founders building AI-powered hardware should invest in AI models specifically designed for their physical constraints rather than adapting general-purpose models. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Ryp Labs is tackling one of the world's most pressing problems: food waste. Every minute, enough food is wasted globally to feed over 1 million people for a day. If food waste were a country, it would be the third-largest producer of greenhouse gases behind the US and China. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Moody Soliman, CEO and Co-founder of Ryp Labs, to learn how his ag-tech startup raised $11 million to develop a revolutionary sticker technology that extends produce shelf life using natural plant compounds. Topics Discussed: Ryp Labs' five-year R&D journey to develop natural food preservation technology The pivot from targeting US/European markets to focusing on Central and South America How the company leveraged trade shows and competitions for organic marketing The decision to target distributors and packing houses over direct-to-consumer sales Scaling challenges and the critical "ship it" moment that validated their technology Future expansion plans into meat, seafood, dairy, and other food categories GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Follow market pull, not your assumptions: Ryp Labs initially targeted US and European markets, assuming these large, developed markets would be most receptive. However, they found no traction because established players had been "doing the same thing for 50 years" and were resistant to change. When they pivoted to Central and South America, they discovered customers who were highly motivated to export internationally and faced significant cold chain breaks. Moody explained, "We ended up completely shifting our go to market strategy to focus on those areas... they are highly motivated to ship their fruit internationally and to export it to the US or to Europe, because that's where they can get much higher prices." B2B founders should test multiple markets and follow where customers are genuinely desperate for solutions, not where they think the biggest opportunity exists. Use trade shows and competitions as unfair advantages: Ryp Labs leveraged their "fun and easy to comprehend" technology to win numerous competitions and secure organic media coverage. Moody noted, "We have almost unfair competitive advantage that it's such a fun technology and such an easy technology to comprehend. So we won a lot of those competitions and awards and that gives us free advertisement." For deep-tech startups with limited marketing budgets, industry competitions and trade shows can provide disproportionate exposure and credibility. B2B founders should identify events where their technology's unique aspects can create memorable impressions. Break the engineer's pencil at the right moment: Despite his team's protests that the product wasn't ready, Moody made the critical decision to ship to a major retailer in 2021. "All right guys, we've taken it as far as we can right now. We just got to put it out there and put it in a customer's hand... we'll learn if it doesn't work." This decision provided the validation and momentum needed to continue development. B2B founders in deep-tech must balance perfectionism with market feedback - sometimes shipping an imperfect product to the right customer is more valuable than months of additional development. Target the most centralized part of the supply chain: Ryp Labs initially considered selling directly to consumers but recognized the variability in handling would create inconsistent results and blame on their technology. Instead, they focused on distributors and packing houses where "all 1 million pack of strawberries is going from the farm into 2 degrees C" with predictable transportation conditions. This centralized approach allows them to "sell a million stickers to a distributor as opposed to going to 100,000 customers and selling them 10 stickers each." B2B founders should identify the most controlled and centralized points in their target industry's value chain. Design for regulatory constraints from day one: Coming from the medical device industry, Moody applied a crucial lesson: "You don't develop a technology and then go back and look at the regulatory process... You have to look at that on the front end, really understand what the requirements are going to be from a safety standpoint, and then develop the product to meet those requirements." This approach enabled Ryp Labs to achieve OMRI listing for organic produce and use only food-grade compounds already recognized as safe by the FDA. B2B founders should map regulatory requirements early and design their technology to meet these constraints rather than retrofitting compliance later. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
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AgriDigital is transforming the agricultural supply chain through its connected grain management platform that digitizes the traditionally manual, paper-driven grains industry. With $20 million in funding, the company has built a single source of truth platform where buyers and sellers collaborate on contracts and transactions rather than maintaining separate versions. In this episode of Category Visionaries, Emma Weston, CEO and Co-Founder of AgriDigital, shares insights from her eight-year journey building category-defining technology in one of the world's least digitized industries. Topics Discussed: The challenge of building in agriculture, the world's least digitized industry AgriDigital's evolution from paper replacement to connected platform architecture The strategic decision to focus on hub customers who connect to hundreds of supply chain participants Navigating the shift from growth-at-all-costs to profitability during market changes Why traditional marketing doesn't work in agtech and alternative approaches that do The importance of founder community and authentic customer understanding in agtech GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Target hub customers for network effects: Emma's team identified customers who were connected to 200-500 other participants in the supply chain, creating a hub-and-spoke model. Rather than trying to acquire customers one by one, they focused on central aggregators who naturally brought their network onto the platform. B2B founders in networked industries should map their ecosystem to identify these high-leverage customers who can drive adoption across their entire network. Resist the temptation to rebrand for funding cycles: AgriDigital deliberately chose not to reposition itself as an AI company, fintech, or climate tech despite having elements of each. Emma explained, "I don't feel any need to try and position us and rebrand us as a climate tech company." This focus allowed them to solve actual customer problems rather than funding problems. B2B founders should resist the urge to chase trending categories and instead build deep expertise in their chosen domain. Price increases require customer education, not apology: When AgriDigital needed to become profitable, they had direct conversations with customers about sustainability, explaining that there's "only so much that we can expect investors and others to cross subsidize in the development of this technology." Almost all customers understood and accepted necessary price increases. B2B founders should frame pricing conversations around mutual sustainability rather than apologizing for necessary business decisions. Don't apply other companies' playbooks to unique problems: Emma emphasized that trying to apply lessons from successful companies like Canva was counterproductive: "The only thing we have in common is that they're Australian born as well." Instead, they focused on internal data, hypothesis testing, and small experiments. B2B founders should resist the urge to copy other companies' strategies and instead develop approaches specific to their market and customer base. Build senior teams for complex problems: During COVID, AgriDigital chose to hire "a smaller, more senior team rather than numerous employees that are more junior." This decision reflected their realization that complex, first-of-their-kind problems require experienced judgment rather than junior execution. B2B founders tackling novel problems should prioritize experience over headcount, especially when building in uncharted territory. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Revelo has emerged as a critical player in the intersection of talent acquisition and AI development, transforming from a Latin American job board to a comprehensive tech talent platform serving both traditional staffing needs and the booming human data market for LLM training. With $48.7 million raised and a network of 400,000 pre-vetted engineers, Revelo has positioned itself at the forefront of two massive trends: remote work acceleration and the AI revolution. In this episode, Lucas Mendes, Co-founder and CEO of Revelo, shares the company's evolution from a simple recruiting platform to becoming the backbone of tech talent for the age of AI, including their pivot during COVID that led to 6x growth in three years and their recent expansion into human data services for hyperscalers training large language models. Topics Discussed: Revelo's origin story and pivot from a Brazilian job board to a nearshoring platform during COVID The dramatic revenue swings during the pandemic - from 80% revenue drop to overwhelming demand The emergence of human data for LLM training as a new business line, growing from 0% to 25% of revenue in 18 months Building specialized platforms for code annotation and LLM training that differ from general-purpose data labeling tools The consulting layer required to serve hyperscalers and why workforce suppliers alone can't compete Revelo's M&A strategy with five acquisitions completed and plans for more transformational deals The long-term vision of becoming the go-to destination for AI implementation talent across all engagement models GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Respond to market signals rather than forcing your vision: Lucas admits that both major pivots - the COVID nearshoring boom and the LLM training opportunity - came from inbound customer demand rather than proactive strategic decisions. He emphasizes being responsive to market signals: "I wish I could claim credit for that, but it was again, us responding to inbound interest from clients." B2B founders should remain agile and let customer demand guide major strategic decisions rather than forcing predetermined visions onto the market. Build deep expertise to differentiate from commodity suppliers: When serving hyperscalers, Revelo learned that being just a "workforce supplier" wasn't enough. Lucas explains: "There's too many of these companies out there for there to be any meaningful demand for somebody who's just a workforce supplier. You need to have done this before." The company invested heavily in developing consulting capabilities and domain expertise. B2B founders entering competitive markets should identify what specialized knowledge or capabilities will differentiate them from commodity providers. Leverage your founding team for new market exploration: When building the LLM training business, Lucas deployed his senior leadership team rather than hiring external executives. He explains: "You need to have a founding team for that phase... it's exhausting, it's excruciating, it's stressful, but it is very much an early stage startup." B2B founders should use their core team's entrepreneurial skills when exploring new markets, even if it means senior executives taking on hands-on roles outside their typical functions. Treat enterprise sales as a repeatable process across teams: Lucas discovered that selling to different teams within the same hyperscaler required starting from scratch each time. His solution: "Build a core corpus of sales collateral, like case studies and materials that they can socialize internally." B2B founders selling to large enterprises should systematize their sales process and create reusable materials that can be adapted for different internal stakeholders, treating each team as a separate sales opportunity. Use transparency to build trust with sophisticated buyers: When dealing with hyperscalers, Lucas found that honesty about capabilities was crucial: "You have to be really clear about what you can do and what you cannot... Some of these companies are saying, hey, we want to do projects where you'll do human data for code, but also some human data for video. We have to say no to that." B2B founders serving sophisticated enterprise clients should be transparent about their limitations, as attempting to oversell capabilities will ultimately damage relationships with buyers who can easily detect gaps in expertise. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
In "Call of the Day," Hillary from Long Island sparks a lively debate by asking BT and Sal what Lindor was saying to Alonso after his home run and before his next at-bat, speculating on whether it was motivational or strategic. The conversation then pivots to a caller named Chris, who draws parallels between the initial skepticism surrounding new Warriors coach Mike Brown and Joe Torre's 1996 Yankees hire, leading to a discussion on managerial success and fan expectations. Finally, Alex calls in to air his grievances with Yankees manager Aaron Boone's recent decisions regarding lineup construction and in-game management, specifically criticizing Boone's handling of star players and critical at-bats.
MacroCycle is pioneering a revolutionary approach to plastic and textile waste, transforming how companies address sustainability challenges while maintaining cost parity with traditional materials. With $7.6 million in funding raised, this upcycling platform has developed breakthrough technology that can process contaminated and colored waste materials that traditional recycling methods cannot handle. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Stwart Peña Feliz, Co-founder and CEO of MacroCycle, to explore how his team is creating high-quality recycled materials through an energy-efficient process that could reshape the entire recycling industry. Topics Discussed: MacroCycle's proprietary upcycling technology that combines damaged materials into high-quality products The shift from licensing technology to manufacturing products due to market demands for proven scale Strategic partnerships with food & beverage and fashion brands seeking recycled content The regulatory landscape driving mandatory recycled content requirements across Europe and US states Brand positioning challenges in sustainability versus profitability conversations The looming supply shortage: why there won't be enough recycled materials for the next decade Building founder brand recognition through distinctive visual identity and conference presence GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Pivot your business model based on customer feedback: Stwart initially planned to license MacroCycle's technology but discovered customers wouldn't adopt unproven technology at scale. Rather than forcing the original model, they shifted to manufacturing products directly, using a capital-light approach by renting existing petrochemical facilities. This pivot allowed them to prove their technology while generating revenue. B2B founders should remain flexible about their go-to-market approach and let customer readiness dictate strategy rather than forcing an idealized model. Position around regulatory compliance, not just benefits: While sustainability messaging resonates, Stwart found that regulatory pressure creates the strongest buying motivation. Upcoming EU and US state regulations will mandate minimum recycled content, creating penalties for non-compliance. Companies partnering early with MacroCycle gain supply chain advantages in a market facing a projected decade-long shortage of recycled materials. B2B founders should identify regulatory tailwinds in their industry and position their solution as compliance infrastructure rather than nice-to-have benefits. Achieve cost parity to eliminate buyer friction: Stwart learned that even environmentally conscious brands won't pay premium prices for sustainable solutions unless legally required. This insight drove MacroCycle's focus on reaching cost parity with traditional materials through their more efficient upcycling process. In commodity markets especially, B2B founders must match incumbent pricing to achieve adoption, using operational advantages rather than premium positioning to win market share. Underprice to accelerate fundraising momentum: Stwart used a counterintuitive fundraising strategy, deliberately undervaluing MacroCycle to generate multiple competing term sheets. Like pricing a $500K house at $400K to create bidding wars, this approach accelerated their fundraising timeline and ultimately achieved higher valuations through competition. B2B founders confident in their traction should consider strategic underpricing to create investor FOMO and compress fundraising cycles. Build distinctive founder brand in commodity spaces: Operating in recycling - a crowded commodity market - Stwart recognized the need for radical differentiation. He adopted a signature bright blue jacket for all conferences and presentations, creating instant recognition across continents. This visual branding became so effective that their lawyers suggested trademarking the color for recycling applications. B2B founders in commodity industries should invest heavily in memorable branding to stand out from undifferentiated competitors. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Revv is transforming one of America's most traditional industries with AI-powered technology that helps auto repair shops navigate the complexity of modern vehicles. With over $33 million in funding and explosive growth from 2 to 75+ employees in just 24 months, Revv has found product-market fit in a massive, underserved market. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Adi Bathla, CEO and Co-Founder of Revv, to explore how he built an AI platform that's revolutionizing auto repair workflows and compressing sales cycles from 21 days to just 3 days. Topics Discussed: Revv's origin story and Adi's path from NASA award winner to auto industry entrepreneur The regulatory catalyst driving massive industry transformation (government-mandated automatic emergency braking by 2029) How modern cars evolved from mechanical devices to "computers on wheels" requiring specialized repair knowledge The challenge of acquiring first customers in a traditionally offline, relationship-driven industry Revv's approach to integrating with existing shop workflows rather than forcing adoption of new platforms The intense transition from founder-led sales to scalable go-to-market systems Building a mathematical rebuild of their sales process that compressed cycles from 21 days to 3 days Scaling from onboarding 20 shops per month to over 100 shops per month in just 12 months GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Meet customers where they are, not where you want them to be: Adi learned early that success in offline industries requires deep integration with existing workflows rather than forcing behavioral change. "Meeting an offline industry user where they are in their workflow rather than asking them to move towards your way of doing things" became a core thesis. Revv integrates with shops' existing scanning tools and estimatics software, running in the background to provide insights without disrupting established processes. B2B founders entering traditional industries should prioritize workflow integration over user interface innovation. Leverage regulatory triggers as market catalysts: Revv's timing was driven by government regulation mandating automatic emergency braking in all vehicles by 2029, which accelerated the adoption of advanced driver assistance systems across the vehicle fleet. This created an acute pain point as repair shops struggled to service increasingly complex technology. Adi explained, "The best birthplace of startups is when there is a government regulation or a functional change or net new technology that didn't exist before." B2B founders should identify regulatory shifts in their target markets and align their product development with compliance deadlines. Embrace the pain of rebuilding your go-to-market repeatedly: As Revv scaled, Adi made the difficult decision to completely rebuild their sales process multiple times. "There's no shame in admitting that what worked from the 0 to 5 journey is going to not work for the 5 to 25," he explained. The company rebuilt their entire sales motion to compress cycles from 21 days to under 3 days by redefining customer personas, creating targeted talk tracks, and engineering demos that immediately showcase ROI. B2B founders must be willing to tear down and rebuild successful systems as they scale. Focus on value propositions that drive immediate business impact: Revv succeeds because it promises both revenue generation and liability protection - compelling value propositions for shop owners. Their demos pull actual repair data from prospects' systems and show concrete ROI numbers, leading to a 60%+ demo-to-close rate. Rather than selling on features or efficiency gains, they demonstrate how their platform directly impacts the bottom line and reduces legal risk. B2B founders should anchor their value propositions on measurable business outcomes rather than product capabilities. Double down on unsexy, fragmented markets: The auto repair industry represents 400,000 businesses in the US alone, with 80% still operating as independent shops. While consolidation exists, the fragmented nature creates massive opportunity for horizontal solutions. Adi noted, "The more unsexy the industry, the more rich I think they are." These markets often lack sophisticated software solutions and have customers starved for technology that genuinely solves their problems. B2B founders should consider overlooked industries where technology adoption has lagged behind actual business needs. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Greenly is transforming how businesses approach carbon management, evolving from a consumer app to a comprehensive B2B platform that serves over 3,000 corporate customers. With $78 million in funding, the company has positioned itself at the forefront of the carbon accounting market by making sustainability tracking accessible and automated for mid-market companies. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Alexis Normand, CEO and Co-Founder of Greenly, to explore the company's remarkable journey from multiple pivots to becoming a leader in carbon management software. Topics Discussed: Greenly's evolution from a consumer carbon tracking app to B2B carbon management platform The strategic pivots that led to finding product-market fit in corporate carbon accounting How regulatory pressure and supply chain demands are driving market adoption The company's approach to building a beautiful, educational brand in a complex technical space Scaling from zero to 3,000 customers through direct acquisition and growth tactics The differences between European and US markets for sustainability software Moving upmarket from SMB to mid-market to improve retention metrics GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Embrace rapid experimentation without killing past initiatives: Alexis didn't immediately abandon previous products when exploring new directions. Instead of completely shutting down the consumer app and banking API, Greenly ran multiple experiments simultaneously. This approach allowed them to maintain revenue streams while testing new markets. The key insight is that early-stage founders should add new experiments rather than kill existing ones, only sunsetting products once new initiatives prove more viable. Leverage market timing and external pressure: Greenly's success wasn't just about building great software—it was about timing their entry when external forces were creating demand. The trickle-down effect of large enterprises requiring carbon data from suppliers created natural buying pressure. As Alexis explained, "When companies start to pledge a real decarbonization pathway, they're asking their suppliers to track their footprint too." B2B founders should identify similar cascading market dynamics where regulatory or business pressures create natural demand for their solutions. Start with underserved segments to build product depth: Rather than targeting large enterprises with existing solutions, Greenly focused on SMBs and mid-market companies who couldn't afford expensive consultants. This strategy allowed them to serve 3,000 customers and encounter "all the corner cases," building a more robust product. While VCs initially questioned the SMB approach, this volume taught them which customers had staying power versus those who only needed periodic compliance help. Make complex topics accessible through brand and education: Greenly's consumer heritage influenced their B2B approach, focusing on education and simplification rather than assuming buyer expertise. Their core value of "making people smarter about climate" translated into clear explanations of concepts like Scope 1, 2, and 3 emissions. As Alexis noted, "Explaining rather complex things simply is actually harder than you think." B2B founders in technical categories should prioritize education and clarity over industry jargon. Follow the economics to find your true market: Greenly's multiple pivots weren't random—they followed customer willingness to pay and market size potential. When the consumer app reached 40,000 users, they calculated the banking API market at $50-100 million total addressable market. Corporate carbon accounting offered significantly larger opportunity. B2B founders should consistently evaluate whether their current path leads to venture-scale outcomes and pivot based on economic realities, not just product traction. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Lumber is revolutionizing how construction companies manage their workforce through a comprehensive back-office automation platform. With over $21 million in funding, the company is addressing critical challenges in an industry where 41% of the workforce will retire by 2031, leaving a massive knowledge and labor gap. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we spoke with Shreesha Ramdas, CEO and Co-Founder of Lumber, about his journey from serving the tech industry to tackling one of the most transformation-resistant sectors in the economy. Topics Discussed: Lumber's origin from 200+ customer discovery interviews with construction firms The company's focus on back-office automation versus field management Lumber's multi-channel marketing strategy emphasizing events and content The challenge of change management in construction technology adoption How AI is creating new opportunities to modernize legacy workflows The company's vision of building a knowledge graph for construction workers GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Lead with value in customer discovery, not just research requests: Shreesha hired an SDR to set up 200 meetings with construction firms, but didn't just ask for their time. Instead, he offered concrete value - either an industry best practices guide or one year of free service if they helped shape the product. This approach appealed to early innovators who wanted to be part of industry transformation. B2B founders should always answer "what's in it for them" before asking prospects to invest their time in discovery conversations. Events require 60-day pre-and-post commitment for success: Lumber generates 30% of its leads from industry events, but Shreesha emphasizes that showing up isn't enough. They start outreach two months before events, targeting previous attendees with promotional activities like free tickets or after-party invitations. During events, they focus on booking demos on-site rather than leaving follow-ups to chance. Post-event, they dedicate 60 days to aggressive follow-up because "those leads age faster than anything else." B2B founders should treat events as 4-month campaigns, not 2-day activities. Use AI to solve change management challenges, not just productivity: Rather than forcing manual timesheet users to adopt mobile apps, Lumber uses AI to digitize handwritten timesheets with 94% accuracy. This eliminates the change management barrier while gradually transitioning users to digital workflows. Shreesha noted that change management is "the toughest thing about construction industry" because workers are focused on building, not adopting new tools. B2B founders in traditional industries should use AI as a bridge between old and new workflows rather than demanding immediate behavioral change. Position against established category leaders, not alongside them: Lumber deliberately positions itself as the "back office" solution while Procore owns the "field management" category. Shreesha explained that back offices are "always thinly staffed" but "always overwhelmed" with regulatory compliance, payroll complexity, and worker management. Rather than competing directly with Procore's field focus, they created their own category serving CFOs, controllers, and payroll admins. B2B founders should identify underserved buyer personas adjacent to established categories rather than trying to displace category leaders directly. Leverage vertical AI opportunities to rewrite industry rules: Shreesha sees AI as the reason construction tech is finally attracting significant investment. The key is using AI to "rewrite the existing rules" rather than just digitizing current processes. For construction, this means taking workflows that have been manual for decades and reimagining them entirely. B2B founders should look for AI applications that fundamentally change how work gets done in their vertical, not just make existing work more efficient. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
BackOps AI is transforming supply chain operations by automating the human-intensive processes that plague logistics companies daily. With $8 million in funding, the company has developed AI-powered solutions that autonomously resolve supply chain issues like damaged shipments, delivery problems, and vendor inquiries. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Sean McCarthy, Co-Founder and CEO of BackOps AI, to explore how his experience at Amazon led to building an AI platform that handles 80% of supply chain problems without human intervention. Topics Discussed: BackOps AI's mission to remove human capital from supply chain issue resolution The evolution from Amazon shipping experience to founding an AI automation company Building and launching the Relay product for autonomous problem resolution Targeting 3PLs and industrial companies with high-volume, repetitive supply chain issues The changing sentiment around AI adoption in supply chain operations Strategic vision to become the central system of record for supply chain operations GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Target problems that scale with volume: Sean discovered that whether customers were nine-figure Amazon sellers or shipping 50 packages daily, they all faced identical supply chain problems. This universality across different company sizes and tech stacks validated the market opportunity. B2B founders should look for problems that persist regardless of customer sophistication or existing technology investments, as these represent fundamental market gaps rather than feature requests. Build prototypes that fail 50% of the time and still get customers: BackOps secured their first paying customer within 30-45 days despite having prototypes that "50% of the time just didn't work." Sean credits this to showing tangible ROI potential even with imperfect technology. B2B founders should focus on demonstrating clear value proposition over perfect execution in early stages - prospects can envision the full potential if the core value is evident. Position against human labor, not just competitors: BackOps rarely competes against other software solutions. Instead, they compete against hiring additional warehouse staff or outsourced development agencies. Sean explains customers evaluate them against "maybe they were planning on opening a new warehouse and adding two or three headcount." B2B founders should identify whether their primary competition is human labor or alternative solutions, as this fundamentally changes positioning and pricing strategies. Leverage domain expertise for customer development: Sean's Amazon background provided immediate credibility and a network of potential customers in 3PLs and fulfillment. His firsthand warehouse experience allowed him to articulate problems with authority. B2B founders should systematically leverage their professional background not just for product insights, but as a channel for early customer development and validation. Avoid generic AI positioning in favor of specific use cases: Sean emphasizes the challenge of selling AI products that "can kind of do anything" versus traditional software with clear functions. BackOps focuses on showcasing specific problems they've solved for similar businesses rather than generic "agentic workflow" messaging. B2B founders in AI should lead with concrete use cases and customer outcomes rather than technical capabilities or broad AI potential. Plan the system of record roadmap from day one: While BackOps launched with Relay, Sean has a clear vision to become the central nervous system that eliminates the need for "18 different systems." He positions this as their path to avoid commoditization and create defensible value. B2B founders should design their initial product as the foundation for a broader platform that consolidates multiple point solutions in their target market. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
AidKit is revolutionizing how emergency aid and government benefits reach people in need. Having distributed over $350 million to more than 500,000 individuals and small businesses, the company is addressing critical inefficiencies in government aid systems during a time of unprecedented policy upheaval. In this episode of Category Visionaries, CEO Brittany Christenson shares how AidKit is building technology that delivers aid with dignity while navigating a rapidly changing political landscape that includes the dismantling of USAID, proposed cuts to SNAP and Medicaid, and plans to shift disaster relief responsibilities from FEMA to state and local governments. Topics Discussed: AidKit's origin story as founders built the platform to solve their own emergency aid distribution challenges during the pandemic The current political climate's impact on government aid programs and how it's creating both challenges and opportunities How outdated procurement processes and billable-hour consulting models create systemic inefficiencies in government aid systems The false trade-off between fraud prevention and accessibility in aid distribution Using AI and big data to simultaneously improve fraud detection while making aid more accessible Building technology that reduces administrative burden for both caseworkers and aid recipients AidKit's partner-first approach to business development and customer relationships The company's unique alignment between revenue objectives and social impact metrics GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Build from your own pain point and expand organically: AidKit's founders created the platform to solve their own emergency aid distribution challenges during the pandemic. When neighboring states asked to use their system, they recognized the broader market opportunity. B2B founders should pay attention when their internal solutions generate external interest—this organic demand often signals strong product-market fit and can provide a natural path to scale. Challenge industry pricing models that misalign incentives: Brittany identified that the prevalent billable-hours consulting model in government aid creates perverse incentives that discourage efficiency and innovation. AidKit deliberately structured their pricing to reward successful outcomes rather than time spent. B2B founders should examine whether traditional industry pricing models align with customer success and consider alternative structures that better incentivize the outcomes customers actually want. Leverage disruption as a growth catalyst: Despite the challenges posed by massive government aid cuts and policy changes, Brittany views the disruption as creating opportunities to build better infrastructure. She notes that "there is never massive disruption without opportunity." B2B founders should develop frameworks for identifying and capitalizing on market disruptions rather than just defending against them. Use technology to eliminate false trade-offs: AidKit demonstrates how AI and modern data sources can simultaneously improve fraud prevention while making aid more accessible—previously seen as competing priorities. Brittany explains that "in 2025 with AI, those trade-offs don't exist." B2B founders should look for areas where technology can resolve longstanding industry tensions and create solutions that deliver multiple benefits previously thought to be mutually exclusive. Align business metrics with customer success: AidKit's revenue model directly correlates with the amount of aid distributed and number of people served. This creates perfect alignment between business growth and social impact. B2B founders should structure their business models so that their success metrics directly align with customer success metrics, creating sustainable growth that benefits all stakeholders. Focus on procurement reform for government sales: Brittany emphasizes that procurement reform is essential for getting better technology into government systems. She notes the need to make procurement "more navigable for better tech solutions" instead of relying on "custom built monolithic systems that are incredibly expensive to maintain." B2B founders selling to government should engage with procurement reform conversations and position their solutions as alternatives to traditional, expensive custom builds. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Samotics is pioneering a revolutionary approach to industrial asset monitoring, delivering condition, performance, and energy efficiency insights for hard-to-reach industrial equipment without requiring sensors to be installed on the machines themselves. Founded by Simon Jagers, the company has developed Electrical Signature Analysis (ESA) technology that monitors over 10,000 machines by analyzing electrical data captured remotely, enabling companies to prevent unplanned downtime and save 10-20% energy without compromising performance. In this episode of Category Visionaries, Simon shares the fascinating journey from a failed AI-first approach to discovering breakthrough technology that's now being integrated with ABB drive systems to create the data fabric for smart factories of the future. Topics Discussed: The evolution from data-driven AI approach to hardware-enabled sensorless monitoring How railway switch monitoring led to the breakthrough discovery of remote electrical signature analysis Samotics' strategy of targeting hard-to-reach assets in extreme industrial environments The challenge of creating the "sensorless condition monitoring" category in a vibration-dominated market Building a service-heavy go-to-market model in an AI-first technology company Partnership strategy with ABB to integrate ESA technology into drive systems GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Target the "either us or nothing" market segments: Simon's breakthrough came from identifying industrial assets operating in extreme conditions where traditional monitoring was impossible or impractical. ArcelorMittal's conveyor moving steel plates across a 1500°C blast furnace exemplified this perfectly - they had two choices: Samotics' unproven technology or no monitoring at all. B2B founders should actively seek market segments where incumbent solutions physically cannot compete, creating natural "blue ocean" opportunities. Focus on unique positioning rather than universal applicability: Initially, Samotics tried to monitor every type of machine possible, believing their AI could handle any scenario. Simon learned to focus specifically on the 25% of rotating equipment that operates in extreme or hard-to-reach conditions where their remote sensing advantage was undeniable and easy to communicate. B2B founders should resist the temptation to be everything to everyone and instead dominate the specific use cases where their solution provides clear, defensible advantages. Embrace service components even in technology-first companies: Despite starting as an AI company with inclinations to automate everything, Samotics discovered that the human service element - having mechanical and electrical experts bridge AI findings with customer needs - became one of their most appreciated product components. They now deliver hardware, AI, and dashboards as a service with regular customer calls and visits. B2B founders should test whether adding high-touch service elements enhances rather than detracts from their technology value proposition. Build category credibility through scale and proof points: Simon emphasizes that category creation requires time, credible data, and real-world examples at scale. With over 10,000 machines monitored, Samotics can now make credible claims about accuracy and effectiveness. The category definition evolved from internal team alignment to external market education. B2B founders attempting category creation must first achieve meaningful scale and documented success before expecting market adoption of their category framework. Use enemy-based positioning strategically in early stages: Samotics initially positioned aggressively against traditional vibration-based monitoring, using humor and edge to grab attention from early adopters who appreciated the contrarian approach. However, Simon notes this was effective primarily for reaching experienced early adopters who understood the technology's limitations but were drawn to unique solutions. B2B founders should consider enemy-based positioning as a tactical tool for early adoption rather than a long-term brand strategy. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Rhumbix is pioneering the field workforce management category in construction, transforming how contractors capture real-time data from job sites. With $46 million in funding raised, the company has evolved from a wearables IoT startup to becoming a leading mobile-first SaaS platform serving mid-market and enterprise construction companies. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we sat down with Zach Scheel, CEO and Co-Founder of Rhumbix, to explore the company's journey from Stanford dorms to creating an entirely new software category for the construction industry's underserved field workforce. Topics Discussed: Rhumbix's pivot from wearables IoT technology to mobile workforce management software The challenge of digitizing paper-based processes in a traditionally analog industry Building founder-market fit in construction tech through authentic industry experience Navigating the 2022 funding freeze and achieving profitability through strategic cost-cutting Creating the "field workforce management" category and educating the market The evolution from founder-led sales to scalable go-to-market operations Strategic decision to move upmarket for higher ASP and better unit economics GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Let the market dictate product-market fit, not your vision: Zach emphasized that "the founder doesn't get to dictate product market fit. The market dictates product market fit." After conducting 100+ customer discovery calls, Rhumbix pivoted from their original wearables IoT concept when customers consistently said they'd pay immediately for digital time cards instead. B2B founders must listen to market signals over their initial product vision and be willing to pivot when customers clearly articulate a different, more urgent need. Find intrinsic motivations in early customers: Rhumbix secured their first customers by identifying intrinsic motivations beyond the product itself. One customer was a tech-savvy IT director excited about digitizing workflows, while another was a fellow veteran who wanted to support Zach's veteran-founded company. B2B founders should look beyond product fit and identify personal or professional motivations that drive early adopters to take risks on unproven solutions. Be intentional about market segment alignment: Zach's most important go-to-market decision was pivoting upmarket to focus on customers willing to spend $5K-$10K rather than trying to serve everyone. Small customers were "a drag on professional services and customer success" compared to larger ones. This strategic focus led to higher NPS scores, more evangelistic customers, and increased referrals. B2B founders must align their product development, pricing, and go-to-market strategy around a specific market segment rather than pursuing a "sell to anyone" approach. Leverage founder-market fit for category creation: In construction, an industry skeptical of technology vendors without domain expertise, Zach's authentic background as a Navy veteran who managed construction projects was crucial for credibility. His "workers first" positioning wasn't just marketing—it influenced product decisions and resonated with industry buyers who could spot inauthentic positioning immediately. B2B founders entering traditional industries should leverage authentic domain expertise as a competitive advantage in both sales and product development. Embrace pivots as smart business strategy, not failure: Initially viewing pivots negatively, Zach learned that "almost all successful companies have pivoted" and that experienced entrepreneurs use pivots strategically to find product-market fit. When they updated investors about moving away from hardware to pure SaaS, the response was overwhelmingly positive due to better unit economics and reduced complexity. B2B founders should reframe pivots as intelligent responses to market feedback rather than admissions of failure. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Cloudastructure has raised over $57 million to transform video surveillance from a passive recording tool into an active crime prevention platform. What started as a solution born from a laptop theft in a South of Market office has evolved into an AI-powered service that protects multifamily properties across the country. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we spoke with Rick Bentley, founder of Cloudastructure, about his unconventional path to building a category-defining company—from working at the legendary General Magic to self-funding his startup by working as a contractor in Baghdad. Topics Discussed: How a laptop theft incident revealed the fundamental flaws in traditional video surveillance systems The breakthrough moment when Google open-sourced TensorFlow in 2015 and its impact on computer vision Cloudastructure's pivot from broad security applications to finding product-market fit in multifamily properties The company's unique crowdfunding success, raising $35 million from 13,000 individual investors Building a hybrid AI-human monitoring system with guards operating from India The technical evolution from basic object detection to holistic, cross-camera intelligence using LLM-like systems GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Timing technology waves requires patience and resourcefulness: Rick spent over a decade keeping his cloud video vision alive before the infrastructure caught up. He recognized that Moore's Law would eventually make broadband faster than video files would grow larger, solving the technical constraints. He funded the company through consulting work, including a dangerous stint in Baghdad, demonstrating that sometimes founders need to get creative about survival during technology transition periods. B2B founders should identify self-resolving technical limitations and prepare to bridge the gap through alternative revenue streams. Vertical expertise beats broad horizontal approaches: Cloudastructure's breakthrough came when they hired Whitney, a VP of sales with deep multifamily industry relationships. She brought not just contacts but intimate knowledge of purchasing processes, budgets, and pain points specific to property management companies. Rick noted, "She knew what their budgets were, what their approval processes were, what their pain points were." B2B founders should prioritize hiring salespeople with vertical domain expertise over generalist sales talent when targeting specific industries. Product-market fit emerges from pain intensity, not market size: The multifamily space proved ideal not because of its size, but because of the acute pain property managers experience. Rick explained the stark difference: "The next morning you could have a dozen people in your leasing office because their cars got broken into last night" versus "an email that says these guys showed up, we did a talk down, they ran away." B2B founders should prioritize markets where their solution prevents catastrophic scenarios over those with mild inconveniences, even if the latter appears larger. Crowdfunding can validate B2B concepts when VCs miss the opportunity: After traditional VCs dismissed Cloudastructure as too late to market, Rick raised $35 million through crowdfunding with 13,000 individual investors. This approach not only provided capital but validated market demand from a broader audience. The success came from clearly articulating the value proposition to non-technical investors who could understand the basic premise of preventing crime versus just recording it. B2B founders facing VC skepticism should consider alternative funding sources that might better appreciate their value proposition. Build the full stack when integration creates competitive advantage: Cloudastructure didn't just provide software—they built the entire monitoring infrastructure, including training guards, developing custom interfaces, and managing the complete service delivery. Rick emphasized, "You can't just hop on Fiverr or whatever and say, I need someone to do this. You need to build the tools for them." This vertical integration created defensible value that pure software solutions couldn't match. B2B founders should consider owning more of the value chain when seamless integration significantly improves customer outcomes. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
We hear this question a lot lately: How do we Save America? Whispered in grief and shouted in frustration. From parents afraid for their trans kids, from exhausted teachers, from faith leaders trying to hold shattered communities together. We hear it from the hearts of people who love this country—not so much for what it has been, but for what it could be.Saving America is not about taking it back. It's about bringing it forward. Into love. Into justice. Into healing. Where do we begin?Send us a private message. *Note: INCLUDE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS if you'd like us to answer. :-) Support the show
Troy Helming is building the future of infrastructure with EarthGrid, a company developing an underground super grid network of tunnels across North America using revolutionary plasma torch technology. As a serial entrepreneur who founded two unicorns in the renewable energy space, Troy brings decades of experience in wind and solar power to solving one of the most critical infrastructure challenges of our time. EarthGrid has raised $63 million and secured an $18 billion joint venture commitment from the Kuwait Investment Authority to build 10,000 miles of underground tunnels over the next decade. Topics Discussed: EarthGrid's mission to build an underground super grid network using plasma torch excavation technology The massive infrastructure challenge of transmission line development in the United States Troy's journey from early solar exposure 45 years ago to founding multiple renewable energy companies The regulatory breakthrough of becoming a telecommunications utility in 46 states Overcoming the "supply problem, not demand problem" with over 20,000 potential customers in their pipeline The $18 billion joint venture with Kuwait Investment Authority's Enertech subsidiary Plasma torch technology's ability to cut through hard granite and other materials conventional machines cannot handle The vision for moving freight and eventually people through underground tunnel networks GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Choose industries with structural supply-demand imbalances: Troy has successfully built three consecutive companies where demand far exceeds supply, eliminating the need for traditional sales teams. He specifically targets infrastructure sectors where "the need is so acute and there aren't that many companies doing it, and the ones that are, the demand exceeds the supply." B2B founders should research industries with massive unmet demand and limited competition, particularly in infrastructure where the barriers to entry are high but the market need is desperate. Solve regulatory risks early through strategic positioning: Rather than fighting regulatory battles, Troy transformed EarthGrid into a regulated telecommunications utility, gaining rights to build under public roads in 46 states representing 97% of US GDP. This strategic move eliminated the primary risk factor that kills most infrastructure projects. B2B founders should identify their biggest regulatory or compliance risks early and find creative ways to work within existing frameworks rather than against them. Build resilience through failure conditioning: Troy's experience with rock climbing and American Ninja Warrior taught him to "overcome the fear of people looking at you when you might fail" and to "shake it off, get back up and go again." After pitching over 2,000 times with a 97% rejection rate, he learned to treat fundraising as a numbers game rather than personal rejection. B2B founders should actively seek experiences that condition them for repeated failure, whether through athletics, public speaking, or other challenging pursuits that build mental resilience. Validate demand before building supply: EarthGrid already has "close to 20,000 potential customer contacts" and over 50 signed letters of intent before fully commercializing their technology. Troy validates market demand through extensive research and customer outreach before investing in full product development. B2B founders should spend significant time understanding their market's pain points and securing early customer commitments before building complex solutions. Leverage personal capital for strategic advantage: Troy's ability to "wait to start your company until you have enough money in the bank" prevents short-term financial pressures from forcing poor strategic decisions. His personal investment in EarthGrid (part of the $63 million raised) demonstrates commitment to investors while providing operational flexibility. B2B founders should consider how personal financial runway affects their ability to make optimal long-term decisions rather than being forced into suboptimal short-term choices. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Climate change isn't just an environmental issue—it's a market opportunity waiting to be captured. Invert, a carbon reduction and removal company, has raised $26 million to transform how companies think about nature-based investments. Starting from a villa in Antigua during COVID lockdowns, co-founder and CEO Andre Fernandez has built a business that's helping companies put nature on their balance sheets as an accretive investment. In this episode, Andre shares the tactical decisions that took Invert from a cottage conversation between friends to a cash-flow positive business serving some of the largest buyers in the carbon credit space. Topics Discussed: Transitioning from mining focus to broader industry verticals based on market readiness Building customer-centric product development in a complex, non-fungible market Navigating the shift from Carbon Markets 1.0 to premium Carbon Markets 2.0 Balancing direct B2B sales with broker/trader distribution channels Leveraging network effects and domain expertise for customer acquisition Managing long sales cycles in annual purchasing environments Educating buyers in a market where 75% lack dedicated due diligence teams GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Start with network advantages, then expand strategically: Andre's team began in mining because they had a strong network of mining engineers from Queen's University, one of only two Canadian schools with mining engineering programs. However, they quickly discovered mining was 2-4 years behind other industries in decarbonization readiness. The lesson: leverage your network for initial traction, but don't let it constrain your market expansion. Use early success to identify industries that need your solution today, not in 2-4 years. Build customers into your business from day one: Invert's most important GTM decision was starting with customer input before building anything. Andre emphasized: "We don't build things that we want. We build our customers into our business. Whenever we're developing something new, we ask them for feedback. Sometimes we lock up the contract before we've actually developed the project or the product." This approach reduces market risk and ensures product-market fit from the outset. Navigate complex markets with education-first marketing: In markets where 75% of companies lack dedicated teams for due diligence, marketing must serve dual functions: education and simplification. Andre noted that carbon credits aren't fungible—buyers care about jurisdiction, social impact, biodiversity protection, and other project-specific attributes. Founders in complex B2B markets should design marketing to educate while simultaneously streamlining the buying process for overwhelmed buyers. Pivot distribution strategy based on market liquidity: Initially focused purely on direct B2B relationships, Invert learned that in markets with lower liquidity, partnering with brokers and traders accelerates growth. Andre explained: "Carbon credits is a 12-month at least buying cycle because it's annual, so it takes a lot of time. If you have a network of people who already have those relationships in place and they have buyers who are ready to buy, they can introduce you as a credible counterparty." When your sales cycles are long, leverage existing relationships rather than building everything from scratch. Differentiate through execution, not just messaging: As the carbon credit market matured, Andre observed that "everybody's talking about quality or high integrity. No longer is high integrity or quality just the differentiator." Invert's competitive advantage shifted to actual execution—developing projects, investing balance sheet capital, achieving cash flow positivity, and demonstrating results with large buyers. In maturing markets, operational excellence becomes the key differentiator when messaging parity emerges. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Spot AI is pioneering the transformation from traditional video surveillance to intelligent video AI agents that can monitor, analyze, and respond to events in the physical world. With $93 million in funding, the company has evolved from providing simple camera management to building AI security guards and operational agents that can process hundreds of video feeds simultaneously, take autonomous actions, and augment human workers in manufacturing, retail, and security roles. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Sudarshan Bhatija, Co-Founder and COO of Spot AI, to explore the company's journey from video surveillance to video AI agents and their vision for physical AI. Topics Discussed: Spot AI's evolution from video surveillance to video intelligence to video AI agents The shift from IT-focused security tools to operations-wide business applications How AI agents can monitor hundreds of camera feeds and take autonomous actions The role of customer feedback in driving product development and market expansion Marketing philosophy focused on authenticity and customer outcomes Building high-performing marketing teams based on capability over experience The future of physical AI and AI agents with "eyes, hands, and legs" GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Capture existing demand and redirect to your category: Spot AI initially targeted customers searching for "video surveillance" but converted them by demonstrating superior value in video intelligence and operational insights. Sudarshan explained that customers "are still married to the old category and starts looking for that, but the subset of customers that wants more" responds to messaging around deeper insights and operational outcomes. B2B founders should identify customers searching for legacy solutions who are actually underserved by existing categories and ready for innovation. Let customer demand pull you upmarket and into new use cases: Rather than forcing expansion, Spot AI allowed existing customers to drive their evolution into higher-value AI agent applications. Sudarshan noted, "customers proactively pulling us into higher value use cases, pulling us up market, and basically the demand has already been created and we've been responding to that." B2B founders should build strong customer listening mechanisms and let proven demand from existing customers guide product development and market expansion. Build an early organic acquisition engine around category transition: Spot AI captured significant early growth by ranking for legacy category searches while converting visitors with next-generation messaging. They "built an organic strategy on Google to be able to acquire a lot of these leads" searching for video surveillance but presented solutions for video intelligence. B2B founders in evolving categories should dominate SEO for legacy terms while using landing pages and demos to educate prospects about superior alternatives. Hire marketing talent based on "can do" over "has done": Sudarshan emphasized that marketing success comes from "the ability to learn really fast and are deeply, you know, take strong ownership of their outcomes" rather than just experience. He found that "people who have the right bent of mind, the marketing bent of mind, but just have really high horsepower" outperform resume-based hires. B2B founders should prioritize intellectual curiosity, ownership mentality, and learning velocity when building marketing teams. Develop authentic, customer-centric marketing that speaks human-to-human: Spot AI's marketing philosophy centers on "focusing all our efforts on high value customer outcomes" and "authenticity" rather than "manicured" corporate messaging. Sudarshan noted that even in B2B, "you're selling to a business, but you're actually selling to a person." B2B founders should embrace authentic, conversational marketing that addresses real customer problems rather than polished but generic corporate communications. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Carmen Li spent decades in financial services across trading floors and data companies before spotting a massive inefficiency in the AI/compute economy. After managing global data partnerships at Bloomberg, she witnessed AI startups struggling with unpredictable compute costs that could swing their margins from healthy profits to devastating losses overnight. Drawing parallels to how airlines hedge oil prices through futures markets, Carmen realized that compute—despite being one of the fastest-growing commodities—lacked basic risk management tools. Within months of leaving Bloomberg, she built Silicon Data into the world's first GPU compute risk management platform, raising $5.7M without ever creating a pitch deck and publishing the industry's first GPU compute index on Bloomberg Terminal. Topics Discussed: The systemic problem of compute cost volatility destroying AI company margins Why compute lacks the risk management tools available in every other commodity market Building the world's first GPU compute index and benchmarking service Raising venture capital without pitch decks through product-first demonstrations Operating as a solo non-technical founder leading a team of engineers The unique buyer dynamics when selling to CTOs, portfolio managers, and AI researchers simultaneously GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Price on value, not cost, and let customer conversations reshape your understanding: Carmen admits that every client conversation changes her valuation of the product's impact, typically making it bigger than initially thought. She prices based on the value delivered rather than cost structure. B2B founders should remain flexible in their value proposition and pricing as they learn more about customer impact through direct engagement. Product demonstrations beat pitch decks for technical buyers: Carmen raised $5.7M without ever creating a pitch deck, instead letting prospects interact directly with her product and writing a simple memo. For technical products solving complex problems, demonstrating actual capabilities often proves more effective than polished presentations. B2B founders should prioritize building working products over perfecting sales materials. Embrace being the "dumbest person in the room" for learning velocity: Carmen describes consistently being the least technical person in rooms full of CTOs, AI researchers, and GPU experts, but leverages this as a learning advantage. She asks hard questions and co-creates products on the fly based on these conversations. B2B founders should view knowledge gaps as opportunities for rapid learning rather than weaknesses to hide. Target systemic problems that span multiple sophisticated buyer types: Silicon Data serves everyone from chip designers to hedge funds to AI companies, requiring Carmen to handle technical GPU questions, financial modeling queries, and AI workflow concerns in single meetings. This breadth creates natural expansion opportunities and defensibility. B2B founders should look for problems that affect multiple stakeholder types within their target market. Leverage unique background intersections to spot obvious-but-overlooked opportunities: Carmen's combination of financial services expertise and data company experience let her quickly identify that compute needed the same risk management tools available in every other commodity market. The solution was "extremely intuitive" to her but invisible to others. B2B founders should examine how their unique background combinations reveal opportunities others might miss. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Minoa is pioneering the value intelligence category, helping B2B companies transform how they sell by connecting product capabilities to customer outcomes. With $2.7 million in funding, the platform enables go-to-market teams to build personalized business cases at scale and move beyond feature-selling to value-based selling. In this episode of Category Visionaries, I sat down with Max Elster, CEO and Founder of Minoa, to explore his journey from product manager at CSP Co to building a platform that bridges the disconnect between product development and go-to-market execution. Topics Discussed: Minoa's evolution from solving internal product-to-GTM communication challenges The emergence of value engineers as a new role in B2B organizations Building and co-creating the "value-based selling tools" category on G2 Leveraging customer advisory boards for evangelism and network growth The shift toward AI-powered personalization in B2B sales processes Mid-funnel optimization strategies for reducing deal drop-off rates GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Co-create categories with platforms early: Max successfully worked with G2 to establish the "value-based selling tools" category within six months by building genuine relationships with researchers and sharing market insights consistently. He explains, "I connected with different researchers... and just shared my thoughts. I didn't have actually any idea that they could be launching this category in the near future." B2B founders should proactively engage with category-defining platforms like G2 and Gartner by sharing authentic market observations rather than pushing for category creation. Optimize for AI-powered buyer research: Max discovered that prospects increasingly use ChatGPT and Perplexity to build vendor shortlists, and these tools reference G2 as a primary source. He notes, "If you are not there, if you're not existing in your category, it's going to be hard for ChatGPT to shortlist you." B2B founders should ensure their presence in authoritative databases and directories that AI tools commonly reference, as this represents a new channel for buyer discovery. Build strategic advisory networks with equity + recognition: Max created a "Star Path Collective" of advisors incentivized with equity shares and bottles of wine for successful referrals. His approach is refreshingly simple: "Just say, hey, we're trying to build this market... are you interested?" This generates warm introductions and ongoing strategic guidance. B2B founders should systematically identify potential advisors who are already bought into their vision and offer meaningful but not overcomplicated incentive structures. Focus on mid-funnel conversion, not just top-funnel generation: Max emphasizes that many companies obsess over lead generation while ignoring massive drop-offs in the middle stages. He explains, "You can solve everything around pipeline, but if you don't get your mid funnel right... you're also going to lose." B2B founders should analyze their CRM data to identify specific drop-off points and create targeted collateral and processes to address these conversion bottlenecks rather than simply generating more leads. Leverage customers as category evangelists: Max's most successful content and growth strategies center on customer stories and insights. He advises, "The customers are the best people to tell a story about what they have achieved with your product." Rather than creating generic thought leadership, B2B founders should systematically capture and amplify customer transformation stories, which serve dual purposes of social proof and category education. Maintain founder-led sales longer with AI augmentation: Max continues doing founder-led sales while building scalable processes, noting that AI tools enable small teams to maintain high personalization at scale. He believes this approach is more sustainable than rushing to hire sales teams. B2B founders should consider extending their founder-led sales phase by leveraging AI and automation tools rather than defaulting to rapid sales team expansion. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Anagram is pioneering a new approach to security awareness that treats employees as assets rather than liabilities. With $10 million in funding, the company is reimagining how organizations address their most significant security vulnerability: human error. In this episode of Category Visionaries, we spoke with Harley Sugarman, Founder and CEO of Anagram, about his journey from venture capitalist to founder and how he's challenging decades of ineffective security awareness training with a human-driven security platform that drives real behavior change. Topics Discussed: The fundamental problems with traditional security awareness training How AI is amplifying attackers' capabilities and the need for better human defenses Anagram's approach to personalized, puzzle-based, and in-the-moment security training The shift from treating humans as "risks to be mitigated" to valuable security assets Founder-led marketing strategies in the security industry Pivoting from security professional training to broader security awareness GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Identify opportunities where market perception doesn't match reality: Harley noticed a massive gap between what CISOs considered their biggest vulnerability (human error) and how they addressed it (outdated, ineffective training). "If you ask 100 CISOs where an attack will come from, 90-95 will say one of their people will click on a phishing link," yet solutions remained antiquated. This disconnect signaled an opportunity to create a truly differentiated product. B2B founders should look for areas where customer actions don't align with their stated priorities, as these represent prime opportunities for innovation. Frame your solution to break industry paradigms: Rather than accepting the industry framing of "human risk management," Harley positioned Anagram around "human-driven security" — shifting from seeing employees as liabilities to valuable assets. "I hate that framing so much because it puts the onus on the human," he explained. "What I have been trying to frame our company around is this idea of human-driven security, which is taking humans and making them a line of defense." This reframing helps differentiate Anagram from competitors and resonates more positively with both security leaders and end users. Use data to overcome status quo inertia: In industries with deeply entrenched practices, the biggest challenge is often skepticism about whether a new approach can actually work. Harley's solution? Let the data make the case. "For us, we are very insistent on looking at the data showing customers, 'Hey, before you introduced us, this is the number of incidents you were seeing. After you introduced us, this is the number of incidents you're seeing.' And I think that's ultimately the thing that changes minds." Data-driven results help overcome the "it's always been this way" mindset that can derail innovative B2B solutions. Employ a land-and-expand strategy for complex purchases: Anagram uses a methodical approach to win over skeptical buyers: "We very much take a land and expand strategy where we'll go in, augment a specific part of the program, show them that this is actually making a meaningful difference in the data, and then that becomes a very easy business case." For B2B founders selling complex or paradigm-shifting solutions, demonstrating tangible value in a limited implementation can pave the way for broader adoption throughout the organization. Don't dismiss "old school" outreach tactics: Despite the emphasis on modern marketing techniques, Harley found success with traditional outbound methods: "So far, it has been pretty much exclusively outbound. So emails, LinkedIn, cold calling...which still works, by the way. I was shocked." B2B founders, particularly those targeting enterprise customers outside the tech bubble, should remember that traditional outreach methods can still be highly effective even when they seem outdated in startup circles. Embrace personal branding with authenticity: After initially feeling uncomfortable with founder-led marketing, Harley found success by finding an authentic voice while taking inspiration from founders like PostHog's James Hawkins. "It does feel cringy. I hate most social media things... It was very much an intentional decision to step out of my comfort zone." By focusing on engagement metrics rather than personal comfort, Harley discovered that his personal content consistently outperformed company posts. B2B founders should measure the results of their personal branding efforts rather than judging them solely on comfort level. Know when to pivot quickly: Perhaps Harley's most critical decision was recognizing when their initial product wasn't gaining traction and pivoting decisively: "The biggest decision that we made was pivoting... I'm really proud of the fact that we very quickly made the decision to basically throw away all this work that we had done and move into this more general purpose awareness tool." B2B founders should be willing to abandon their original vision when market signals indicate a better opportunity, even if it means discarding substantial work. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Sleepovers are awkward—lumpy couches, cold pizza, and no sleep. But when three curious teens bring their DIY ghost-hunting kit to friend Lee's house, awkward turns terrifying. Crackling EVPs and a drifting orb give way to an out-of-body chase through a basement that seems to stretch for miles, pursued by a red-eyed shadow leaking black smoke. A silent Victorian boy and his stern grandfather try to keep the evil caged behind a locked utility-room door—until the door explodes open. The fallout? Broken friendships, a family in chaos, and a tragedy no one saw coming. Was it teen imagination, or did something real—and hungry—slip free that night? If you have a real ghost story or supernatural event to report, please write into our show at http://www.realghoststoriesonline.com/ or call 1-855-853-4802! Want AD-FREE & ADVANCE RELEASE EPISODES? Become a Premium Subscriber Through Apple Podcasts now!!! https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/real-ghost-stories-online/id880791662?mt=2&uo=4&ls=1 Or Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/realghoststories Or Our Website: http://www.ghostpodcast.com/?page_id=118
On this episode, we dig into the haunting story of a quiet suburban home where a nightly prayer turned into something far more profound. A young woman, grappling with life's mounting stresses, found solace in speaking to her late grandmother each night. But one evening, a message appeared—written not in ink or chalk, but in shadow and light. What began as a simple expression of grief and longing became a moment of eerie, unexplained clarity. Was it a trick of the eye, a product of grief… or something truly supernatural? This story challenges what we believe about spiritual connections and the boundaries between the living and the dead.
On this episode, we dig into the haunting story of a quiet suburban home where a nightly prayer turned into something far more profound. A young woman, grappling with life's mounting stresses, found solace in speaking to her late grandmother each night. But one evening, a message appeared—written not in ink or chalk, but in shadow and light. What began as a simple expression of grief and longing became a moment of eerie, unexplained clarity. Was it a trick of the eye, a product of grief… or something truly supernatural? This story challenges what we believe about spiritual connections and the boundaries between the living and the dead.