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Eduardo Vilaro, artistic director and CEO of Ballet Hispánico, is in the studio this month! Ballet Hispánico was founded back in 1970 by Tina Ramirez, and the company has spent more than five decades celebrating the vibrant diversity of Latino cultures through dance. The company says it's not just about performances—it's also about breaking barriers, challenging stereotypes, and making space for Latino/Latina voices on stages all around the world. Eduardo originally joined the company as a dancer and educator in the ‘80s after taking a class and being hand selected by Tina. After spending his next ten-year chapter as founder and artistic director of Luna Negra Dance Theater in Chicago, his career brought him back to Ballet Hispánico as artistic director in 2009 - becoming the second person ever to head the company since its founding - and CEO in 2015. Born in Cuba and raised in New York, Eduardo not only shaped the company's contemporary style but has also expanded its reach. We talked about his career and his approach to carrying Ballet Hispánico's legacy forward. He also shared what he learned from Tina, a trailblazer in New York's ballet community, and what it means to connect his community with this art form and tell stories through dance that resonate across generations. He spoke about why dance is an important vehicle for Latino artists to honor their heritage and explore their identities. Check it out! Learn more about Ballet Hispánico: www.ballethispanico.org Follow Ballet Hispánico on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ballethispanico/?hl=en Follow Eduardo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ervilaro/?hl=en Purchase tickets for CARMEN.maquia at New York City Center: https://www.nycitycenter.org/pdps/2024-2025/ballet-hispanico/ Music in this episode: Waltz of the Flowers - Tchaikovsky Barroom Ballet - Silent Film Light - Kevin MacLeod Barroom Ballet - Silent Film Light by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100310 Artist: http://incompetech.com/ @eblosfield  | theadultballetstudio@gmail.com Support this podcast on Patreon! https://patreon.com/TheAdultBalletStudio?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Cultural incongruence and its consequences is a theme which has shaped Bernardo Cubria's work in several different ways. As an actor, in television shows like Group, his work explores what it means to be misunderstood, and delves into the epiphany which often arises when one realizes his peers' criticisms and insights, which they initially may have dismissed, may, in fact, lead to realizations about self that may significantly affect their perspective. As a playwright, it has laid the backdrop that surrounds his stories about typecasting, politics, cultural appropriation, and the trivialization of minorities in America that can be seen in works like Crabs in a Bucket, which won the 2024 Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award for Best Writing; The Giant Void In My Soul, a satirical journey into fulfillment (and the lack thereof); Neighbors: A Fair Trade Agreement; and the timely portrait of electoral pregnancy in The Hispanic/Latino/Latina/Latinx/Latine Vote. His work has been awarded the Smith Prize for Political Theater and has been nominated for Stage Raw and Ovation awards. As a screenwriter, he wrote Like It Used to Be and Guerrero which Gina Rodriguez is attached to direct and star in, and he was a 2023 Sundance Screenwriters Lab fellow for the screenplay Kill Yr Idols which he cowrote. In our conversation, we discussed the interplay of the notable themes in Bernardo's projects, including Loop Group: Or Shia Lebeouf's Version, as well as being part of the writer's staff on Seasons 3 and 4 on the Apple + series, Acapulco.Opening Credits: AvapXia - Do You Still Think About Me? I CC BY 4.0; Anitek - 09 Lola I CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. Closing Credits: Útidúr - Fisherman's Friend I CC BY-NC-SA 3.0.

On today's episode, Jonathan and Sy have a catch-up conversation on the assassination attempt, the Vance VP pick, Biden stepping down, and Harris stepping up. Then they talk with UCLA professor Robert Chao Romero about:-        What everyday life was like for immigrants during Trump's administration-        How MAGA Christians' treatment of immigrants reveals a lack of spiritual discernment-        What Professor Romero would say to immigrants who think voting won't make a difference-        And the complicated, diverse politics of Latine voters in AmericaMentioned in the Episode-            Our anthology, Keeping the Faith-            Tamice Spencer-Helms reading an excerpt of Faith Unleavened-            Professor Romero's Instagram-            And his book, Brown ChurchCredits-            Follow KTF Press on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Subscribe to get our bonus episodes and other benefits at KTFPress.com.-        Follow host Jonathan Walton on Facebook Instagram, and Threads.-        Follow host Sy Hoekstra on Mastodon.-        Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify.-        Our podcast art is by Robyn Burgess – follow her and see her other work on Instagram.-        Editing by Multitude Productions-        Transcripts by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra.-        Production by Sy Hoekstra and our incredible subscribersTranscriptIntroduction[An acoustic guitar softly plays six notes in a major scale, the first three ascending and the last three descending, with a keyboard pad playing the tonic in the background. Both fade out as Jonathan Walton says “This is a KTF Press podcast.”]Robert Romero: In the context of the life of worship, we are to reflect upon scripture, upon the 2000-year-old tradition of the church, and to add Latino theology, en conjunto, or in community, with the local church, with the global church, with the church that's there with Jesus right now, even. And there has to be a continuity, a harmony between new scriptural interpretations and our ancestors that have gone before us. And so if you just run that test [laughs], that criteria, the MAGA movement through that doesn't make any sense.[The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you're building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.]Jonathan Walton: Welcome to Shake the Dust, seeking Jesus confronting injustice. I'm Jonathan Walton.Sy Hoekstra: And I am Sy Hoekstra. This is gonna be an interesting episode. Today we're breaking our format a little bit because just so many things have happened since the last time that we recorded. I don't know if you've noticed, Jonathan, a couple of things happened in the news [laughs] since the last time we recorded this show.Jonathan Walton: A few historical events.Sy Hoekstra: Just a few historical events. So we're still gonna have an interview with one of the authors from the anthology that we published on Theology and Politics. This week it will be Robert Chao Romero, who is a lawyer, history PhD, professor, pastor, activist. No big deal, the usual combination of the regular career path that everyone takes. But before we do that, we are going to spend some time talking about the assassination attempts on Donald Trump, the JD Vance pick for Vice President, Joe Biden stepping down, the almost certain nomination of Kamala Harris. And while we will probably talk about a couple of the resources that we've highlighted in our newsletter on those subjects, we're not gonna formally do our Which Tab Is Still Open this time around. There's just too much…Jonathan Walton: There's a lot. There's a lot.Sy Hoekstra: …to talk about, and we wanted to get all that in. Plus the really, really great interview with Professor Romero. But before we get into all of that, Jonathan.Jonathan Walton: Hey, if you like what you hear and read from KTF Press and would like for it to continue beyond the election season, please go to KTFPress.com and become a paid subscriber, and encourage others to do the same. We've got a ways to go before we're going to have enough people to sustain the work we're doing after the election. So if that's you, go to KTFPress.com, sign up, become a paid subscriber, and then tell a friend to do the same thing. That gets you all the bonus episodes of this show, access to our monthly Zoom chats with the two of us and some other great subscribers. And so go to KTFPress.com and subscribe.The Assassination Attempt on Donald TrumpSy Hoekstra: Alright Jonathan. Let's start with the big one. Well, no, they're all big ones.Jonathan Walton: No, they're all big for different people, for different reasons [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: For very different reasons.Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: The assassination attempt in Pennsylvania at the rally, just before the RNC. The media reaction to this, Jonathan, has struck me as a little bit odd. I don't know what you've been thinking, but let's hear what you're thinking, what your reaction to the assassination attempt was and to the conversation around it.Not Taking Part in the News Spectacle of the AssassinationJonathan Walton: Yeah. So my immediate reaction was, okay, if this had happened in 2016, I think I would've pulled my phone up and writing things, processing, trying to figure things out, all those kinds of things. When I heard this news, I was on the beach in California with my family, and I honestly was not troubled. And that was weird to me. I was not worried, I was not concerned. I thought to myself, “Man, if I was orienting my life around the decisions of Donald Trump and the Republican Party, I would probably be losing my insert word [laughs], but I'm not.” And I also thought about, oh, if I am someone on the quote- unquote left, my brain would be spinning. How is this gonna be politically, what's the impact? Blah, blah, blah. And I just wasn't. And so in that immediate moment, I felt empathy for folks that were feeling that type of dissonance.And the way that I felt towards Donald Trump actually came from a conversation I had with Priscilla, because she was sharing and just the reality that we don't want to participate in the spectacle of it. Reality in TV is an oxymoron that shouldn't exist. Our lives are not entertainment. The intimacies of life should not be broadcast and monetized and commented on as though all of us are all of a sudden now in a glass, I mean [laughs], to reference not the book, but just the image. But that all of us are now like a glass menagerie that we can just observe one another and comment as if we're not people. Those are the initial feelings that I had.Why Wasn't the Shooter Considered Suspicious?Jonathan Walton: The last feeling that I had was actually highlighted by someone from our emotionality activist cohort. He said that he felt angry because the shooter was labeled as suspicious, but not dangerous. And he said, if this had been a BIPOC person, Black, indigenous person of color, there would've absolutely been a response.Sy Hoekstra: Especially at a Trump rally.Jonathan Walton: At a Trump rally, there would've been a response to a suspicious person of color. That would've been fundamentally different place as evidenced by the very real reality, I think a few days later at an event where there was a Black person that was killed by the police [laughs] near a political rally. So I think there, no, there was an altercation, there was a very real threat of violence between these two people, but the responses to Black people and people of color and the impoverished and all these different things that it, it's just a fundamentally different thing because they saw this 20-year-old kid who isn't old enough to buy alcohol, but old enough to get his hands on an AR-15 to scope out a place and shoot someone wasn't seen as a threat. And I think that is a unique frustration and anger, because I hadn't thought about that, but I hold that too.Sy Hoekstra: Just to emphasize that he was, the local police officers actually did try and flag this person as someone who was suspicious. They didn't do anything about it, but they noted it. You know what I mean?Jonathan Walton: Yeah, yeah, yeah.Sy Hoekstra: Which is even more… Like his behavior was suspicious enough for him to be noticed by law enforcement, but they didn't actually do anything, and then they reported it to whoever was running campaign security, and they didn't do anything about it either.Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: And I don't know. Yes, that is a good and sad point, and I appreciate you bringing it up.We Have to Insist on the Value of Trump's LifeJonathan Walton: Well, what about for you?Sy Hoekstra: I mean, I guess my response to, two different angles of response to it. One is to anybody, I know there are people out there who are like, “Trump is a fascist, Trump is a threat to democracy, I just wish he'd been hit in the head.” And I don't think anyone in, I haven't heard anybody in the mainstream media or politicians or anyone saying that, because that would be too far for them in their [laughs] policies and their politeness and all that. But there are people thinking it, and I just, I don't know. I just have to say that we can't do that.Jonathan Walton: Absolutely not.Sy Hoekstra: We can't be the people who dehumanize somebody to that degree. I agree that he's a fascist and that he wants to, and that he is a huge threat to our democracy and all of that. But to then say, “I wish he was dead,” that puts you on his level. That makes you like him, the person who mocks when other people have had assassination attempts on them, like Nancy Pelosi or Gretchen Whitmer. Or who encourages and stands behind all the people who were in the January 6th riot that did actually kill people, right?Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: You don't become him, is what I'm saying to anybody who's thought or been tempted to have those thoughts. We still have to stick to the image of God and everybody as a principal. Even when it's genuinely tempting not to, because there are serious considerations on the other side of that argument [laughs] if that makes sense.Jonathan Walton: Yes, yes.Sy Hoekstra: It's a terrible thing to talk about, but it's, I think it's worth addressing.Jonathan Walton: Absolutely.We Do Not Need to Tone Down Our Rhetoric about Trump's Threat to DemocracySy Hoekstra: But I also have to say the opposite side of like, we must call for unity. We must call to lower the political rhetoric and the political temperature. When it comes to Donald Trump, that is ridiculous.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: That is a, you can't do that [laughter]. And the reason is, first of all, he's the one mocking other people's attempts that have happened on their lives, or riots that actually led to people dying, right?Jonathan Walton: Yes. Yes.Sy Hoekstra: So for him or the people who support him to say, “Oh, now we need to call for unity or rhetoric to come down,” it's hypocritical on their part. Now, that doesn't matter. I'm not trying to just be like whatabouting the Republicans. But the issue is like, there's different kinds of heated political rhetoric. When you obviously accuse somebody of being a threat to democracy, that's a charged statement for sure that you shouldn't say lightly. However, the people who are arguing it now are arguing it on the basis of Donald Trump's words and actions [laughs]. They're making a real good faith argument based on actual evidence. It's heated nonsense political rhetoric when Donald Trump says that there's an invasion at the southern border…Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: …and you're just painting poor people who are fleeing violence, trying to find safety in an opportunity in America as invaders who are here to, well, like he said, killers and rapists and drug dealers and whatever.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: When you're just painting with a broad brush, when you're creating stereotypes, when you're just trying to slide people into a category, that's dehumanization and that's what can lead to violence. When you're actually making an argument against something that people have actually done, like words that people have said and actions that they have taken, that's a different story. And it is true that in a country of 320 million people, even if you make a good faith argument based on facts, that somebody's a threat to democracy, somebody might take that as a reason to shoot at them. But that's not anything over which we have any control.Jonathan Walton: No.Sy Hoekstra: That doesn't mean you stop saying things that are true because they're… you know what I mean? That then I wouldn't say anything about anybody. I would just keep my mouth shut all the time. I can't make any arguments about anything because what if somebody just happens to at the wrong moment take that as license to go attack somebody?Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: So all of that stuff seemed like nonsense to me. And then people were like, “Oh, don't talk about how it's gonna help his campaign.” Of course, it's gonna help his campaign. And of course the Republicans are going to use it to help his campaign. We need to be realistic about what we're talking about here [laughs] in the context of our conversation. So I think those were my reactions to all of this. I think because as soon as he was shot at, I, because he wasn't hit, I knew he was fine. So I wasn't particularly scared about it. I didn't have like a lot of emotions around the thing itself, because the guy missed him [laughs].Americans Condemning Political Violence is HypocrisyJonathan Walton: Yeah. I think I'll also say too, it's the idea that all of a sudden, we are gonna step out and condemn political violence, let's be clear. There's an exceptional level of political violence enacted by the United States every single day against its own people, against people around the world. There are 900 bases where political violence is happening. We tried to assassinate a leader a few months ago in the Congo. Let's be clear that the reality of that statement too is just ridiculously hypocritical and ignorant.Sy Hoekstra: Yep.Jonathan Walton: Right. Like just Biden did rattle off some political violence that I think we, the quote- unquote dominant cultural narrative is okay with calling out, but we also have to just name the reality that we are actively participating in things that are politically violent.Sy Hoekstra: All the time.Jonathan Walton: Yeah [laughs] all the time. For example [laughs], Biden said, oh, yeah, we're not gonna ship bombs to Israel anymore, and the reality is we shipped thousands of bombs.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. Yeah.Jonathan Walton: That level of comfort with ignorance and hypocrisy and the dissemination, or just sharing that widely, is also something not about the event itself, but our dominant narrative response and the legacy media's response was just, that was disheartening to say the least.Sy Hoekstra: It's a very good point. And I would point out that Trump himself had a general in Iran assassinated [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Right. Yes.Sy Hoekstra: It's just like, it's complete nonsense.Jonathan Walton: He did. Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: For us to be like, “Where does political violence come from in America? I don't know.”Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: The many presidential assassinations and lynchings and pogroms and everything else. Like what? I don't know.Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: We should note, by the way, as I'm listening to you talk, Jonathan's at home and children are not in school, they're home from daycare [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Oh, yes. Yes. Our house is very full. Thank you for being gracious.Sy Hoekstra: You'll hear some adorable little voices in the background. I'm sure everyone will enjoy it all.The VP Pick of J. D. VanceSy Hoekstra: Jonathan, let's talk JD Vance. What are you thinking about this pick [laughs]?Vance Is Everything Trump Wishes He Was, and Could Lead for a Long TimeJonathan Walton: Oh, Lord! I think the thing that bothers me about JD Vance, as my daughter screams [laughs], is Donald Trump picked someone who reflects all of the values that he has and wants to espouse.Sy Hoekstra: Yep.Jonathan Walton: So Donald Trump would love to say that he grew up poor and is a working class man, all those things. He's not, but JD Vance, quote- unquote, is. He desperately wants to say he made it and served his country and all the… No, he didn't.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: But JD Vance is a Marine and quote- unquote actually built a business. Now, JD Vance is also exceptionally misogynistic, exceptionally patriarchal, exceptionally individualistic in the way that Bootstrap Republicanism tries to embody itself. And so he chose someone at the same time that did not have the apprentice. That did not go on reality television. That did not spend his life entertaining people, so I think he is going to be taken seriously, which is why he's dragging Donald Trump in the polls. I think what happened is the wholesale remaking of a section of the Republican party that has now taken it over, and he chose a leader that could be the voice of that for the next 25 years. And that I think is sad [laughs] because I do believe in a pluralistic society where people can share ideas and wrestle and make good faith arguments and argue for change and all those things.So I don't want some one party event that happens. At the same time, I think it is exceptionally unnerving and unsettling and destabilizing for someone who holds such views against women that we will absolutely see, obviously when we talk about Kamala Harris. But what he, what Donald Trump blessed and sent out, JD Vance will now bless and send out for the next few decades at least. And that if you wanted to give a new, like a reiteration of Strom Thurmond, here we go. He's 38, he could be talking and on TV and doing things for the next 50 years, and that is deeply unsettling for me.Vance Is a Sellout, but That Probably Won't Matter MuchSy Hoekstra: It's also interesting that he's someone who's doing it as a sellout.Jonathan Walton: Oh, yeah. A thousand percent.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. Meaning he was not… he was a never Trumper for a while. He called Trump possibly America's Hitler at one point. And now he totally turned around once he ran for Senate because he saw where the wind was blowing.Jonathan Walton: Exactly.Sy Hoekstra: If nothing else, his Silicon Valley background lets him understand disruption and how to capitalize on uncertainty and when things are changing [laughs]. So yeah, that's an interesting one to me. I kind of wondered if that would make Trumpers not trust him or even not trust Trump, because he isn't… So much of the Trump worldview that he tries to inculcate in people is us versus them, and we need to demand loyalty because there's so much danger out there coming at us. And so a guy who flip flops to become a pro-Trump person, like a lot of… I don't know, there have been a lot of politicians like that who have been distrusted, but maybe he's just famous enough that it doesn't matter. I'm not sure. We'll see as it goes on. There's a possibility that he weakens the enthusiasm of Trump voters, but I don't actually know.Jonathan Walton: They chanted “Hang Mike Pence.” So I don't put that beyond them, beyond anybody.Sy Hoekstra: I see. They can always separate Trump from anybody else, basically.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: He's the exception no matter what [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Right, right, right.Vance Helps with the Tech World, but He's Unexperienced and Hasn't Accomplished MuchSy Hoekstra: Another thing about him is, well, there's a couple of things. One is he is, he was a pick, at least in part to court tech billionaires. He's a Peter Thiel protege. He's basically promising to deregulate all kinds of tech related things. He is helping Trump secure the support of Musk and Zuckerberg and everybody else.Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: So, I don't know. He was a strategic pick in that sense, I guess. He's also one that was a strategic pick when they were facing Joe Biden.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: Which they're not anymore, and it's an interesting, I don't know, it'll be a different kind of calculation. Now, I've heard some rumblings that some Republicans kind of regret the choice at this point because [laughs] it's gonna be such a different race.Jonathan Walton: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: It's also incredible to me that the entire Republican ticket now has a total of six years of government experience [laughter]. It's just like, so Trump has done it for four years. Vance has done it for two, that's all we got. Six years.Jonathan Walton: Right, right.Sy Hoekstra: Kamala's got that beat like by multiples, by herself with no running mates [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yeah. Right, right, right.Sy Hoekstra: So anyways, that's just kind of a remarkable thing. Vance is also totally, he hasn't done much in the Senate in terms of bills that he's introduced, but he has introduced things that haven't gone anywhere that are just like a bunch of transphobic and anti-DEI and all that kind of legislation. So he's been not doing much, but ideologically on doing the kinds of things that Trump wants a senator to do. So that's another part of the pick, which is also depressing. But let's move on from that sad one.Jonathan Walton: [laughs].Biden Stepping Down, Harris Taking OverSy Hoekstra: Jonathan, what are we thinking about Biden stepping down and the almost certain, possibly the only legal available nomination of [laughter] Kamala Harris to be the President of the United States?The Dynamics of White Boomers Passing Power to Younger BIPOCJonathan Walton: So, yeah, the first thing that I thought of when Biden said he was stepping down was that I knew he was gonna step down when he got COVID.Sy Hoekstra: Huh.Jonathan Walton: I think that's a very interesting thing because when we were in California traveling this past few weeks, we knew four families that got COVID. And then I checked the numbers and I realized, oh, like the numbers in cities are going up because they're still testing water, right? And obviously the most susceptible people are older people and people with chronic health problems. And he is an older person [laughs]. Like, it was another thing…Sy Hoekstra: I don't know if you noticed.Jonathan Walton: …that says you're old, right? Like, and that, that Steve Bannon was right. He started the old train a long time ago, and it has run its course and run him out of the election. So I was not surprised that he was dropping out. The second thing about it though is, and I don't know if there's more writing about this. If you're listening to this and you have read some analysis or commentary, I'd love to read it. But I wonder how boomers are transitioning from positions of power, and if they are or not [laughs]. Because Joe Biden, I think, signifies a generation of people that don't know how to let go of power. And he said that in his speech. He said like, “I have to give up ambition.”And so I think that was an interesting, that's just an interesting thing to think about as there is a very significant, I think in the trillions of dollars' worth of transfers of wealth from that generation to their children and grandchildren. The billionaires that have been minted in the United States are just people inheriting money. So it's just a fundamentally different thing around wealth and power that's happening, I think, as it is power quote- unquote, is given from one older White man to a middle aged Black woman. Right? Black and South Asian. And so the other thing I thought about with Joe Biden is that he also was on the ticket that coordinated Obama.And so he's the meat in the middle of this sandwich that I think is also very interesting [laughs], that he leveraged his power to effectively potentially elect the first two Black presidents of the United States.Sy Hoekstra: Now, to be fair, he did run against the first one in the primary [laughs].Jonathan Walton: He did, and he lost, and then he joined a ticket, right?Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.What We Can and Can't be Grateful to Biden ForJonathan Walton: And so, I think it's interesting that that's a thing. I will also say, for all the people, left, right, center, wherever you place yourself, thanking him and praising him and all these different things, I'm just not on that train.Sy Hoekstra: Huh? Why?Jonathan Walton: I've thought a little bit about this, and I'm continuing to think about this, but there's a tension that I feel generally for the processes and the participation and the hard decisions that we have to make every day that require necessary compromise and then violence as a result. And so when we talk about being grateful for things, like, “Oh, Jonathan, aren't you grateful for like soldiers, or grateful for America?” And it's like, the first thought that I have is, thankful to who for what? Who am I thanking, what am I thanking them for? And I think it's because I just have this resistance, and I desire this purity that only is found in Jesus. This purity, this wonder, this beauty, this justice, this love that is blemishless, right? So I find myself, it's very difficult for me to be like, “Thank you Joe for this work that you did 10 years ago, this work you did five years ago.” It's hard. I'm just like, you know, thanks.Sy Hoekstra: Oh, I see.Jonathan Walton: Blessings on you on the rest of your life. I hope that you are able to flourish and receive all the things that God has. It's very general, very cursory. I don't carry this deep respect, appreciation or anything like that. And I think that just comes from like, I attach people to institutional violence and he represents a lot, a staggering amount of institutional violence. Even though he fought for lots of good things, it's like, yeah, it's hard for me to get on that appreciation bandwagon of the last 50 years of service.Sy Hoekstra: I totally understand that. I thought you were talking about, because a thing that I think you can acknowledge is difficult to do is to step down.Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: In the situation that he's in, there are so many people telling him not to. It's so easy, especially if you have that ambition that he's obviously had his whole life.Jonathan Walton: For his whole life, yeah.Sy Hoekstra: Decades, he has wanted to be president, right?Jonathan Walton: [laughs]. Right.Sy Hoekstra: And he just wants to hang onto it and…Jonathan Walton: Let me into the sandbox! Let me in [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: And it's hard to just admit, “I'm tapped out guys. I can't do this anymore.”Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: That is not an easy thing to do. And I do, in spite of all the criticisms that I a hundred percent agree with you with about the time that he spent in the presidency and in Congress and everything else, that's hard. And I can acknowledge when somebody did something hard that is helpful for the country [laughs].Jonathan Walton: Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.Sy Hoekstra: And because it is hard, I did not expect it. It's interesting that you did, but I didn't know that was coming.Harris and Why Representation is ImportantSy Hoekstra: I also, when it comes to Harris, who by the way, I said Kamala earlier. I'm trying not to do that, because it can't be that the two, Hillary and Kamala, we use their first names. Everybody else we use their last names [laughs].Jonathan Walton: The soft misogyny. I hear you, you're right.Sy Hoekstra: Everybody calls her Kamala though. It's like hard not to.Jonathan Walton: Right.Sy Hoekstra: So I'm not the guy to explain why her running is so historically important in any detail, and there's gonna be a lot of very shallow attempts at talking about representation in the mainstream media. Which is why in the newsletter, I pointed people back to Tamice's book, because in the book that we published, Faith Unleavened, Tamice Spencer-Helms, the author, has a really great excerpt that we published and actually put as a episode of this podcast feed. I'll have the link in the show notes where she talks about, like Kamala Harris just comes at the end of the excerpt, but it's in the context of her talking about the stories of generations of women in her family and how they've served as a barrier or a bulwark against White religion and Whiteness destroying their lives.Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Sy Hoekstra: And the story ends in a scene that has never once failed to make me tear up [laughs] even though I edited it like 15 times [laughter] when we were making the book. It ends with her and her grandmother, and her grandmother's basically on her deathbed watching Kamala Harris get sworn in as vice president. And she does an incredible job of emphasizing the power and meaning of something like that happening without really talking about it. You know what I mean? It just is because it's part of her story as she puts it, like the story that Blackness is telling in America. So it's very, very good. If you haven't read it, I would go back and just grab a couple of tissues.And for me, I won't just let that story sit there, and the fact that it is important to sit there, because look, I have a lot of criticisms of Kamala Harris' policies [laughs] as a former prosecutor, as her foreign policy, as all those kinds of things, and I am willing to let all of that sit in tension together. And I will move on with my life, but I don't know if you have more thoughts about that, Jonathan.Resisting the Bigotry that Is Coming for HarrisJonathan Walton: Yeah. The only thing that I would say, and actually it's already happening. But the level of anti-Black, anti-woman, racist, misogynistic, patriarchal flood that is about to happen, will be unprecedented.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: Online right now, even on Fox News, like on Fox News this morning, one of their commentators said, “Kamala Harris is the original ‘hawk tuah girl,' that's how she got to where she is.” Now, if you don't know what that is, I'm gonna explain it very quickly in ways that I hope are not dehumanizing to the person that actually did this and the people that it was said about. But there was a young woman who was taped on TikTok, who was asked about how to get a man more aroused. And she said, you gotta do that Hawk Tua, and that really gets them going. There's a slice of the internet, which we are all becoming more familiar with if you're online, that still desires the Girls Gone Wild videos of the 1990s, the centering of men constantly in sexual pleasure and relationships, and the picture of women only being able to succeed or excel if they are in service to men, and absolutely never achieving anything or earning anything on their own merit.And so I think Ketanji Brown Jackson, when she was certified and confirmed as a Supreme Court nominee, I think will give a slice of the anti DEI, anti CRT, anti-Black female, anti-female narrative, but that will pale in comparison to what we are about to see. And I think followers of Jesus need to resist that at every single level. At every single level if we can. Individual, in our own hearts, like us saying “Vice President Harris” is a way not to participate. Right? Like in an interpersonal level, like not… we have to check other people with this nonsense. And then in an institutional and ideological level, we actually need to communicate as followers of Jesus, that there is no place in the kingdom of God… and I would want to it to be nowhere in the world, for misogyny and misogynoir. Like this mix of anti-Blackness and anti-feminism and patriarchy. So that's the only other thing that I would say, is I just strongly desire in the most emphatic terms I can without using profanity that  [Sy laughs] we need to stand against them. We need to stand against that as followers of Jesus and people invested in the flourishing of other people and ourselves.Sy Hoekstra: It's going to happen. Like you said, it will be a ton. And just thinking back on all the absolute nonsense that was said about Obama over the eight years that he was president. I don't know how much we've progressed from there.Jonathan Walton: No.Sy Hoekstra: And so I just, it will be even worse…Jonathan Walton: Yes.Sy Hoekstra: As we've already seen, like you've said.Jonathan Walton: With all of that, there's a lot of things to process. There's frustration, anger, numbness, curiosity. Maybe some people are feeling peace. I don't know anybody who's feeling joyful about our political process right now. And so, as we are processing and trying to find hope in times of crisis and things that are difficult, I really want to commend to our listeners the resource that we created called Pace Yourself. So to pray, assess, collaborate, and establish, like to actually engage as a follower of Jesus in community for the long term.Sy Hoekstra: Yep.Jonathan Walton: If you are someone who's sitting here listening and thinking to yourself, “I need a resource like this, I want community like this, I want to engage in this way,” if you're a subscriber already, it's in your inbox. Just search [laughs] in your KTF Press and look through your newsletters that you've received every Thursday. Also, if you are not a subscriber, you could get it for free. Just go to KTFPress.com and become a free subscriber. And it'd be better if you became a paid subscriber, but [laughs] I understand if you don't wanna do that right now. But go to KTFPress.com, become a free subscriber and get that resource. And I also want to comment to you like, we do not have to do these things alone. And so if you are a paid subscriber, you could also join our monthly chats and conversations so that there's a space. It may not be at your church, it may not be at your job, it may not be at your kitchen table. You'll at least have a one-hour Zoom call to talk with some people who want to be redemptive forces in the world. So we'll lay that out there as well.Sy Hoekstra: Absolutely. We've had two of them and they've been really great.Jonathan Walton: Amazing.Sy Hoekstra: And we hope we see you all at the next one.Introducing the Interview Guest, Robert Chao RomeroJonathan Walton: Now we're gonna get into our great interview with Robert Chao Romero. Professor Romero is an associate professor in the UCLA departments of Chicano and Chicana studies. Also, the Central American Studies Department and the Asian American Studies Department. He received his PhD from UCLA and Latin American History. He's also a lawyer with a JD from UC Berkeley. Romero is the author of several books, including Christianity and Critical Race Theory: A Faithful, Constructive Conversation, Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/o Social Justice, Theology and Identity, and The Chinese in Mexico: 1882-1940. The Chinese in Mexico received the best book award in Latino/ Latina studies from the Latin American Studies Association, and Brown Church received InterVarsity Press' Reader's' Choice Award for the best academic title.Romero is also an ordained minister and a faith rooted community organizer. Now, we talked to him about the everyday reality of the lives of immigrants under the Trump administration, what those lives tell us about the spiritual state of the MAGA movement, and the diverse and complicated politics of Latine voters in America. And guys, a lot more. Alright, let's get into the interview.[the intro piano music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out.]Sy Hoekstra: Robert, thank you so much for joining us on Shake the Dust today.Robert Romero: It's great to reconnect after a while.The Everyday Suffering of Immigrants under TrumpSy Hoekstra: Yeah, thank you. Just to get started, let's take a… I don't know, a kind of sad walk down memory lane [laughs]. Thinking back to the Trump administration, obviously you have a lot of experience both in immigration, the immigration law world, and in just the world of immigrant churches. And I'm wondering if you could give people a reminder or a picture of what the immigration world was like during the Trump administration.Robert Romero: Sure, I can share a story of one of my students. So in the beginning of the Trump administration, I was teaching a big lecture class, like 400 students. And there was a young woman who came up to me after class one day and said, “Professor Romero, can I get the lecture slides from the last few classes?” And I'm like, “Yeah, sure. What's happening?” And she said, “My mom has papers, she has legal documentation, but she was swept up by an immigration raid in her workplace, and I had to go home and watch my kids, and it took six days before we could find her.”Sy Hoekstra: Oh, wow.Robert Romero: And that's when I knew, oh my gosh, this is gonna be really bad. And so one of the things that launched things off in the Trump world with regards to immigration was an executive order that he passed, which took away any type of prioritization with regards to deportation. Now, the Obama administration was no friend to immigrants, and that's another conversation. But in theory, at least the Obama administration had a prioritization as to kind of who immigration would target as priorities for deportation. And on top of that list before was people with serious criminal convictions, who were undocumented with serious criminal convictions, and then families were at the very bottom. And there was kind of this internal policy. What the Trump administration did through that executive order is take away any type of prioritization, as imperfect as that prioritization was.So my student's mother and the people at her workplace, families, people who had worked in the US for 30 years, they were put on the same level and prioritization as someone who had many serious criminal offenses, for example. And I can tell you that also happened with Pastor Noe Carias that we worked with. He was an Assemblies of God pastor who came to the US in the eighties fleeing civil war. He had his own business, US citizen wife and two US citizen kids, and he was threatened to be deported. So many stories like that, it just created chaos and pain throughout the lives of millions of people.Sy Hoekstra: I'm glad that you brought up that one executive order deprioritizing things, because that's not something that made the headlines. And I know because my wife who listeners to the show would be familiar with, was an immigration attorney at the time, and she was dealing with all these tiny little things that did not make the headlines or whatever, that the Trump administration would just adjust, that would just make things that much harsher and that much more cruel on immigrants. And the result was like the human cost that you were just explaining. And then on the service providers on top of that, it was like if you have to drop everything you're doing and spend a bunch of time making new arguments or appealing cases, or in some cases dropping everything to bring a big class action lawsuit to try and stop some rule change or whatever, that is a decrease in your capacity, that then means you can't work with more people.Like my wife spent a lot of time where she was just taking no new cases on, she was just appealing all the cases that had been denied because of ridiculous rule changes that eventually got overturned. But in the meantime, a whole bunch of clients that would've been eligible for green cards lost the opportunity or whatever. And so I very much appreciate you bringing that perspective.Robert Romero: I remember another example. I remember at the time, the Diocese of San Antonio, Texas, that's one of the largest Catholic diocese in the whole country. They were trying to sponsor a special religious worker and [laughs] their application got denied because ICE wanted proof that they were a legitimate 501 C3 corporation [laughs] the Diocese of San Antonio.Sy Hoekstra: The Catholic church?Robert Romero: The Catholic church, yeah [laughs]. And it's like those kinds of shenanigans.Sy Hoekstra: Oh my gosh.MAGA's treatment of Immigrants Reveals a Lack of Spiritual DiscernmentJonathan Walton: Wow. Oh man. I'm gonna attempt to ask this question without going down too many rabbit trails because that just sounds ridiculous [laughs]. But in your essay, you said, “Jesus warns us soberly in Matthew 25, that our response to immigrants and the poor is a barometer of the sincerity of our relationship with God,” end quote. To you, what does all that stuff we just talked about reveal spiritually about the MAGA movement?Robert Romero: So that interpretation of Matthew 25, that our response to the poor and immigrants reflects our heart with God, that's an ancient tradition. Ancient Christian interpretation, thousands of years. And I think that what that reveals about the MAGA movement, it shows how much the culture of US nationalism that's embedded within MAGA has become so conflated with Christianity in the US that people have lost discernment. They've lost discernment. In other words, this is one of my reflections over the last couple of months. When you really get down to it, these issues that we're talking about, it's a discernment process, spiritual discernment process between what is culture, what is the gospel, what happens when the gospel becomes invited into a culture, and how do you distinguish between the gospel and culture?And now here's the tricky part [laughs]. The gospel has only expressed itself and always only expresses itself through culture. First the gospel came through the Jewish people, enculturated in that context, then became enculturated in the Greco-Roman Hellenistic context among Turkish people, among North Africans [laughs] among Persian people, among all these people. Then it became enculturated later on in more Western Europe, and then in about a thousand AD, like the Vikings, and Christianity becomes enculturated. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's just the reality. And theologians talk about a process though of discernment with regards to enculturation. What is a biblical contextualization of the gospel in a local culture and what's not.And what they say is that the way that you discern, is that in the context of the life of worship, we are to reflect upon scripture, upon the 2000-year-old tradition of the church. And to add Latino theology, en conjunto, or in community, with the local church, with the global church, with the church that's there with Jesus right now, even. And there has to be a continuity, a harmony between new scriptural interpretations and our ancestors that have gone before us. And so if you just run that test [laughs], that criteria, the MAGA movement through that doesn't make any sense. And we can talk more about that, but that's what I've been… thank you for giving me the chance to just throw that out on you, because that's what I've been thinking about. I've been dying to share it and to process it with people.Sy Hoekstra: The immediate response from people in the MAGA movement is, well, from Christians in the MAGA movement at least, would be, we're the orthodox ones and the people who oppose us are the ones with the new interpretations of scripture that are going off the rails and trying to destroy American culture and et cetera, et cetera.Robert Romero: Sure.Sy Hoekstra: So why are you coming to such a radically different conclusion?Robert Romero: So first of all, orthodoxy means right praise, correct praise. That's what it means. So, as we said, this criteria, the context of the life of worship. So as people are worshiping Jesus, we're bearing one another's burdens, we're taking communion, we're praying to God. That's the context first of all that this discernment takes place. And you look at scripture, 2000 verses of scripture that talk about God's heart for the poor, and the marginalized and immigrants, Matthew 25, among about a hundred other verses. So first of all, MAGA would've to contend with that. Tradition, the tradition of the church for 2000 years from the earliest church records where they said it in the Greco-Roman world. “These Christians are so strange. They worship this…” I'll just paraphrase, “They worship this Jesus, but they belong to every culture.You cannot distinguish them by their dress or their language or their clothing, but by the way, they love one another, and they care for those that are poor and marginalized.” And there is a historical record of 2000 years of the church. And what MAGA is doing, it is not in continuity with that 2000 years of church tradition en conjunto, in community, because as Americans, we're so individualistic. People think, I'm gonna go into my prayer chamber, I'm gonna pray for two days and whatever I come out thinking about immigrants, God spoke to me. Doesn't work that way. It's like in community, all these things, the context of the life of worship, scripture, tradition of 2000 years in community with the local church, the global church, and also what theologians talk about is like another principle of continuity again.Whatever MAGA is saying has to… MAGA Christians, at least, there has to be continuity with 2000 years. And if you look at the history, I challenge anybody, there's no continuity there. Anti-immigrant sentiment, there's no continuity. And so that's what I would say first and just to kind of throw out a big concept there, the major concept that we're talking about, it's called inculturation. Inculturation. And how does the gospel enter a culture and transform it? How does a gospel enter a culture and heal it? But sometimes what happens is that a culture can become so culturally Christian that people confuse just the culture with the gospel. And if you run through this criteria, this ancient criteria of discernment, you'll find that's why prophets arise. And that's what's happened with MAGA.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. That's a helpful distinction, I think. Because you could also say, well, there's another tradition starting with the eastern half, the Roman Empire becoming Christian and creating Christian empires for a couple thousand years, right? But I think you're saying that just the phrase, “that's why prophets arise” [laughs], I think is the helpful distinction for me. Yeah.Jonathan Walton: You write about this a little bit in Brown Church, your other great book. There's this unhealthy syncretism, this marriage that has happened. And when you said the word “Orthodoxy” I immediately thought of a conversation I had with a wonderful person on Instagram. I am being facetious. But she said Israel is a nation ordained by God to exist in all these different things around 1948. And then and she said that's the orthodox view, is what she said. What would be your response to someone who divorces their belief in Jesus from the scriptural basis of Jesus and the tradition of, that missión integral, the conjunto that you're talking about, when they make that divorce, what do you do besides go to your prayer closet and pray for them [laughter]?Robert Romero: Yeah. I think that you go to the roots. If those of us who call ourselves Christians, we follow Jesus, and Jesus lived in history in a very specific moment in time, and he had 12 disciples and apostles, and he shared a message with them that he was the Messiah expected by the Jewish community. And that through this Messiah, the whole world would be transformed and saved and redeemed, there's a core message that was passed on from Jesus to the 12, to the leaders, the bishops that they appointed, to established churches. And there was, for the first 300 years of the church, lots of writings, lots [laughs] that established orthodoxy.So there was a core orthodoxy that Jesus established to use that term. I mean, it's anachronistic. Core message. That core Christian message was passed on to the 12. The 12 passed it on a majority consensus as to what that core was, to leaders that they appointed in Egypt, in Turkey [laughs], in Persia, in North Africa. And they had people that they appointed, and there were writings that developed. So, in other words, what I'm saying is you can trace what this major consensus of orthodoxy was pretty clearly through the historical record. And this is what I'm saying about history [laughs]. If you put MAGA through that, it's not in harmony with it.I'll say this though, if you use this criteria, this healthy criteria that have been established by theologians over the millennia, Christianity is not the same as the left either. I wanna make that clear as possible [laughs]. There are lots of Christians who make the same mistake and conflate Christianity with the cultural left, and it's not the same either. So there's room for abundant nuance and complication, but at the same time, there is a complicated, thoughtful process. And one of the things that disturbs me so much is that for the last five or 10 years, with all of the social disruptions in every arena of society, you have this positive desire to try to figure it out. Like what's right, what's wrong? And you have some people who are just holding on to this cultural Christianity, this cultural nationalism as indistinguishable from Christianity.You have some folks who are at the same time going the other extreme and throwing away 2000 years of very imperfect, but still the Christian movement. And things are just so disruptive, this process, I would hope this criteria again, and this is a work in progress for me, of we discern the difference between Christ and culture. We discern what aspects of culture are positive reflections of the gospel or not, or what's represents cultural impurity and what represents the unique reflection of the image of God through culture. We discern that. And I wanna share a quote that I think expresses the mess of the last 500 years. This is from an article by a Filipino theologian, José De Mesa. He's one of my favorite theologians.He is citing missionaries who were going to go to China in 1659. The quote again from 1659, “Can anyone think of anything more absurd than to transport France, Italy, or Spain or some other European country to China? Bring them your faith, not your country.”Jonathan Walton: There you go.Robert Romero: That's it [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Bring them your faith, not your country.Robert Romero: Bring them your faith, not your MAGA movement.Reacting to People Who Think Voting Won't Make a Difference for ImmigrantsSy Hoekstra: I wanna transition a little bit because everything we've talked about so far is a little bit aimed at the MAGA movement, or at White Christians in America. But again, talking about my wife, her family is from Haiti, and during the 2020 election, she made some calls for the Biden campaign down to Miami and to, there's a lot of Haitian voters there, it's a swing state, they needed people calling. So she called potential Haitian American voters and was talking to them about the election. And she had some fascinating conversations [laughs]. But she had a couple people in particular who I think represent a certain segment of immigrants or the one or two generations after immigrants to the US who are not White.And they basically said, what on earth is the point of voting for Biden versus Trump? You were talking before about the Obama administration, and they were just like, Trump, Obama, Bush, we get treated the same. We get deported, we get forgotten, we get left behind. We get approached every four years to put somebody in power who then doesn't really do anything for us. What do you say to that kind of hopelessness?Robert Romero: Yeah. First of all, I totally get it and understand it, because it feels that way so much, so often. So I would first approach it on that level of like, okay, let's process. What are we feeling here? I get it. And then I would say, well, I guess I have a response just as a human being, and then a response as a Christian. So those are kind of related, but different things. I mean, just as a human being, as a US citizen, there was a substantial difference in the treatment of immigrants under the Trump administration. It was just like, it made people suffer. Millions of more people suffered in very specific ways when the policies changed under Trump. Again, under Obama, again, I don't think that he is perfect either, and he caused a lot of harm, but things were way worse. They got way worse.We didn't think they could be, but they got in very practical, specific ways under Trump. So depending upon who we vote for with respect to this topic of immigration, it makes a difference. It makes a huge difference. And that's because every president has the constitutional authority to set immigration policy on their own. They can't pass immigration laws, that's Congress's job, but they can pass hundreds of policies carte blanche, which is what Trump did, at their own discretion and mess people's lives up. That's what I would say. Like just as a human being, and in terms of Trump's potential to come back into office. Just as a human being, oh my gosh, I want our democracy to just survive.And he's signaled so many times that he's willing to just overturn the rule of law, and we can talk about that too. So that's just as a human being. Now, as a Christian [laughs], it's like, I know that there's no perfect candidate, and Jesus is not a Republican or a Democrat. And I know people go off the rails on both sides. At the same time, Christians, I think in good faith, can hold some different political perspectives. If we do that, run through that discernment process that I mentioned, we can come to good faith differences of opinion. We really can. That's just a hundred percent true.Jonathan Walton: I like how you said good faith differences.Robert Romero: Yeah.Jonathan Walton: That feels very [laughs] very important.Robert Romero: [laughs] Yes.Jonathan Walton: [laughs] Because I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, I would love to see an experience like good faith differences, where the other person isn't just dehumanized to the point of like, it's okay to do violence. That the reality that the first step towards violence against someone is dehumanization.Robert Romero: Yeah.The Diversity of Latine Voting and Politics in the USJonathan Walton: And so can we have good faith disagreement. And going along with that, I listen to a lot of podcasts, read a lot of news, sometimes healthily, sometimes to just cope, I think the information [laughs]. But a lot of media outlets like The Run-Up on the New York Times, or Politico, or NPR, they make a big deal out of polling, saying Latine voters, particularly men, are somewhat more pro-Trump than they have been in recent years. And like, what are your thoughts on that talking point? And the diversity of Latin experiences and political thought in America?The Effect of Latin America's Racist History, and its Leftist DictatorshipsRobert Romero: Yeah. I mean, I don't doubt that those stats are somewhat true. I mean, I don't know. I haven't studied them. But I think that within, again we talk about this inculturation process, and how the gospel gets interwoven with bad aspects of culture, sinful even. And, but how the gospel also at the same time, when it engages a culture, it transforms the culture and heals the culture too. And our diverse Latin American Latino peoples, we've got both [laughs]. We have the sin [laughs] and our own colonial history of 500 years that is just as racist as the US history. Just as racist. And so I think that when it comes to more people supporting Trump, and I want to distinguish the support of Trump from a pre-Trump Republican party.Again, not that it was perfect or anything, but I wanna make that distinction [laughs], because there are some Latinos who just feel more aligned with again, the Republican party 15 years ago or something, for some reasons that are not entirely bad. Now, the folks that support Trump and Trump's racism, again, we're super, the Latino people are so diverse in every way imaginable. Politically, socially, economically, racially, ethnically, culturally, religiously. So I wanna make that disclaimer. But at the same time, we have our own 500 years of racism and colonial racist values that are within us. And so if a Latino male voter says, I like Trump because he's just, because I wanted to kick out all the immigrants or something like that, [laughs] then that's where that comes from.And it also comes from holding racist values in Latin America, bringing it here and wanting to fit into the racial system here. I'll say one last example. So in Latin America, for 500 years to this present day, there's a legacy of everybody wants to be called Spanish, quote- unquote.Jonathan Walton: Yeah.Robert Romero: Because you had a racial hierarchy and caste system officially for about… let's see, 1492 to 1820 officially, this caste system. And just like in the US, you had a certain legal caste system, these terms of White, which was a legal category, Black, Indian and so forth. In Latin America you had the same thing, but the different terms. They were like Spanish and Black and Indian and Mestizo and Mulatto. And at one point they had dozens of terms. But that created the society in which people who were social climbers wanted to be considered Spanish. And to this day, some people will say that I'm Spanish. And doesn't mean… it's fine if someone's like, if someone immigrated from Spain to Mexico that's great. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about like, no one in their family has been to Spain like in 400 years.So Spanish is sort of, saying I'm Spanish is like a MAGA person saying, “Well, I'm White,” or something. It's like this, it can be. Not always so extreme, but now imagine someone that comes from that context in say Mexico, I can speak for my own context. They come to the US, they find a different racial hierarchy, and they wanna fit in with power. So you become Ted Cruz.Jonathan Walton: [laughs]. This is true.Robert Romero: You become Marco Rubio. Where you're willing to sort of just like… Actually, this is the term, this is another use of the term enculturation. You enculturate yourself fully to the dominant White racist narrative so that you can gain acceptance. And that's what happens. And so I think that some of those Latino Trump voters, again, if they're doing it, I mean, there's other reasons too. But if they're doing it because as an explicit endorsement of anti-immigrant policies, then I would say this is a lot of what's going on. Now, to be fair, some Latinos, and not without reason, are kind of scared off by, like they come from socialist countries that have really in a lot of pain and hurt. And they hear someone on the extreme left of the Democratic party reminding them too much of what it was like in Nicaragua [laughs].Sy Hoekstra: Or Cuba or whatever.Robert Romero: Or Cuba. Yeah, I mean, I remember I was talking to a Cuban taxi driver who had just come to the US five years ago, and he said, “I'd rather someone shoot me than send me back to Cuba.” That's what he said. So it's like, I think there's that going on too. Again, not that that's a hundred percent right or whatever, but it's understandable and I get it too.Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, right.Robert Romero: So yeah. Some people just vote Republican no matter what, because of those reasons, and those are not just for no reason.Jonathan Walton: Right. Right, right. There's a history and a context there too that all, all that makes sense. All that makes sense.Outro and OuttakeSy Hoekstra: Thank you so much for that question and all the other insight you've given us. If people want to follow you online or see some of your work, where would you point them?Robert Romero: Sure. So my full name is Robert Chao Romero, C-H-A-O. And if you use that name, you can find me in all the usual places.Jonathan Walton: There aren't a lot of Chao Romeros out there, you sure? [laughs].Robert Romero: Yeah [laughs]. There was one. One person wrote me actually [laughs], but other than him, I think I'm the only one. [laughter].Sy Hoekstra: A guy wrote you just to say we have the same name, I can't believe it [laughter]?Robert Romero: Yeah He was in Brazil or something and he is like, “Is this a coincidence?” But anyways, it's neither here nor there, but, so if you look up my name, you can find me in the usual places, social media.Sy Hoekstra: Great.Jonathan Walton: Nice. Nice.Sy Hoekstra: They'll find all your books [laughs]. And we've put some of them in our newsletter and some of the other stuff, and we highly recommend all of it.Robert Romero: Thank you.Sy Hoekstra: So thank you so much for being with us on the show today. We really appreciate it.Jonathan Walton: Yeah, thank you so much.Robert Romero: It's my pleasure.[the intro piano music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out.]Sy Hoekstra: Thank you all so much for listening. Please remember to support what we do and keep this work going beyond this election season. Go to KTFPress.com and become a paid subscriber. Get all the bonus episodes of this show, access to those monthly subscriber chats we were talking about earlier and a lot more. You can also get the anthology and read Professor Romero's essay and everybody else's essays at keepingthefaithbook.com. Alright. Our theme song as always is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra. Our podcast Art is by Robyn Burgess, transcripts by Joyce Ambale, editing by Multitude Productions. We thank you all so much for being here, and we will see you in two weeks.[The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/ That it will roll in abundance/ And that you're building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.]Jonathan Walton: Welcome to Shake the Dust, sheaking Jesus... What? Sheaking?Sy Hoekstra: Sheaking Jeshush.Jonathan Walton: I don't even know what that means. Okay, [Sy laughs]. This is a public episode. 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A new book reveals an incredible slice of Cuban-American history that's been all but forgotten until now. Lisandro Perez‘s Sugar, Cigars and Revolution: The Making of Cuban New York (NYU Press, 2018) tells the story of a vibrant Cuban émigré community in 19th-century New York that ranged from wealthy sugar plantation owners investing their fortunes in New York real estate, to working-class Cubans rolling cigars in Lower Manhattan decades before the industry took hold in Tampa. Cubans in New York had their own businesses, newspapers, and clubs, and many were involved in the struggle to liberate Cuba from colonial Spain. Among those New York-based political activists was the great hero and poet Jose Marti, who lived most of his adult life here. In fact, says Perez, a professor at John Jay College of the City University of New York in the department of Latin American and Latino/Latina studies, New York was the most important city in the U.S. for Cubans until 1960, when of course Miami became the destination for Cubans fleeing communism. This interview is part of an occasional series on the history of New York City sponsored by the Gotham Center at CUNY. Beth Harpaz is the editor for the CUNY website SUM, which showcases books and research from the CUNY community.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new book reveals an incredible slice of Cuban-American history that's been all but forgotten until now. Lisandro Perez‘s Sugar, Cigars and Revolution: The Making of Cuban New York (NYU Press, 2018) tells the story of a vibrant Cuban émigré community in 19th-century New York that ranged from wealthy sugar plantation owners investing their fortunes in New York real estate, to working-class Cubans rolling cigars in Lower Manhattan decades before the industry took hold in Tampa. Cubans in New York had their own businesses, newspapers, and clubs, and many were involved in the struggle to liberate Cuba from colonial Spain. Among those New York-based political activists was the great hero and poet Jose Marti, who lived most of his adult life here. In fact, says Perez, a professor at John Jay College of the City University of New York in the department of Latin American and Latino/Latina studies, New York was the most important city in the U.S. for Cubans until 1960, when of course Miami became the destination for Cubans fleeing communism. This interview is part of an occasional series on the history of New York City sponsored by the Gotham Center at CUNY. Beth Harpaz is the editor for the CUNY website SUM, which showcases books and research from the CUNY community.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Christian Castile, a trial attorney at Reed Smith, is joined by Reed Smith's Professional Development and Continuing Legal Education Manager, Joe Maguire, and Emily Chang, a former Reed Smith summer associate, to explore the evolution of LGBTQ+ inclusive language. This episode delves into the history and reclamation of the term "queer," examining its significance and the broader impacts of language on the LGBTQ+ community. Joe and Emily share their personal stories and insights, discussing how their experiences have shaped their understanding and use of LGBTQ+ terminology. They also touch on the intersectionality of language across different marginalized groups and the importance of person-centered language. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on the power of words and the journey toward inclusivity. This episode includes a frank discussion of words used to describe the LGBTQ+ community, some of which could be triggering to some listeners. ----more---- Transcript: Intro: Welcome to the Reed Smith Podcast, Inclusivity Included: Powerful Personal Stories. In each episode of this podcast, our guests will share their personal stories, passions, and challenges, past and present, all with the goal of bringing people together and learning more about others. You might be surprised by what we all have in common, inclusivity included.  Christian: Hello, and welcome to this month's episode of Reed Smith's podcast, Inclusivity Included. My name is Christian Castile, and I am the guest host of this month's episode. I am here joined today by Joe Maguire and Emily Chang, and we are going to be discussing the evolution of LGBTQ+ inclusive language, focusing on the term queer as a prime and driving example, but looking sort of across the board, a different language that we use. I'll get into a little bit of the history of that term and some other terms, but as we are getting started here I'm gonna toss it over to Emily and Joe to give us a little bit of introduction. So Emily, we'll go ahead and have you start. Can you just share a little bit about your background and what it is that inspired you to pursue a career in the legal industry?  Emily: Yeah, I'm Emily. I majored in undergrad in hospitality and graduated in 2020. So my job on cruise ships was no longer an option. And I took a semester off and then decided I wanted to go to law school. I had taken a hospitality law class and I had loved it. It was definitely the right move. And I am studying for the bar and joining the firm in Dallas soon.  Christian: That is so exciting. Are you doing anything interesting in between your law school graduation and starting at the firm?  Emily: I'm going to clerk for a bankruptcy judge in Dallas for a year.  Christian: That's incredible. Congratulations.  Emily: Thank you.  Christian: Joe, I'll pass it over to you. Sort of the same question, if you could just share a little bit about your background and how you came to get involved with Reed Smith and the legal industry more broadly.  Joe: Sure. So I was an English and philosophy major in undergrad, which was all incredibly useful if I wanted to go into publishing, which I did not. So I ended up going to law school, as many people do, as sort of a default. And I clerked for a couple of years, and then I practiced for a couple of years. And it was clear that it was just not something that I was... I love the law, and I love the learning, I love the words, but the actual practice just just didn't suit. And so I went a different path and worked in law schools and then eventually came to work at the firm. And actually, this week is my 25th anniversary at the firm on the 14th.  Christian: Congratulations. What a milestone.  Joe: Thank you. Yes, it's a milestone I don't think anyone ever really expects to hit. It sort of comes as a surprise. So yeah, and it's interesting because my law firm experience was very different from when I was a practitioner to when I was in a role that allowed me to work with lawyers was a different dynamic and one that suited me quite well.  Christian: Well, I know I speak for many of us here at the firm to say that we're happy to have you in the role that you're in. You do some great work for us, and I know I enjoy working with you. So I'm so pleased to be sitting here with you both today for this podcast episode. And I appreciate the insights that the different perspectives that you just both shared are going to provide for the discussion that we're having. So just really quickly, I thought for anybody who is maybe less familiar with sort of the history of what we're talking about today, we are looking at the word queer as a sort of focal point for the evolution of LGBTQ+ inclusive language. And the reason that we're focusing on that word is because historically queer has seen a lot of change, a lot of development over the way that it's been used, the way it's been perceived in this particular community, most notably sort of starting out as a derogatory term, and then over time being reclaimed as different generations of the the LGBTQ community have really focused on trying to recapture some of that language. So sort of with that in mind, this is a question for both of you again, as well. And we'll go, we'll take this in reverse order. So Joe, if you could open us up here, is there anything that you are comfortable sharing about your LGBTQ experiences, your experience as a member of the LGBTQ+ community? And specifically, what is the language that you use with respect back to your own identity?  Joe: So I was aware by the time I started school as a kid that I was different. And I had some awareness of what that was about. And I, as an elementary schooler, was mildly fluid from a gender perspective. And so consequently, I was effeminate enough to get the attention of my classmates. And that made me a target. There were other factors in my identity that sort of contributed to that sense of otherness that had nothing to do with sexuality or gender. Going through those experiences, I had a fair amount of confusion about exactly what was going on. And all that seemed to clarify once puberty hit. And it became very clear to me that my identity was male and gay. And that is how I identify now. And that's probably been since about sixth grade.  Emily: Yeah. And I use she/her pronouns. And I think came out to myself probably in middle school as a product of, I think I grew up in Texas and I think that different sexualities are not presented as an option to you until you learn about them yourself. And I grew up in a time when the internet was very available. And I think that was very useful and educational for me as a young person. And then I came out as so many do to my parents and greater community and when I left for college and could do that and everyone was very receptive, And so it's very nice to have a community here and in the larger, in everywhere I've gone.  Christian: Emily, it's interesting that you mentioned that, too. That could almost be its entire separate topic, right, of the advent of the Internet and how that has sort of impacted not only the way that, you know, our community has disseminated information and representation, but also how it's impacted the way that we use language. Language, getting sort of to the crux of this episode, I'm curious if either of you are willing to share specifically what the word queer means to you personally, and whether you've had any experiences with that term that sort of informed the way that you interact with it, the way that you perceive it, and your feelings around it.  Joe: It took me a long time to decide to respond to Christian about whether to do this, because I have, I feel conflicted. As a lover of words, I think queer is a great word. And I've always felt sad that it was hijacked in the way that it has been. And I mean, I went through a period of time where I wanted to be an etymologist. It's still an interest that I have. So despite the fact that I think it's a fabulous word, it's not a word I really ever use. And I certainly don't connect with it as part of my own identity. And while I love the idea of reclaiming words, anytime I've tried to use it, like the word has come out of my mouth, I have not felt comfortable. I'm not 100% positive about what the sort of official definition is in current usage. But, you know, I've heard it used as a an alternative to the sort of alphabet soup of LGBTQIA+, which is certainly a mouthful, and a lot. So I understand the desire to find a term that sort of captures all of that without literally needing to spell it out. But I've also heard it used as a general term for sort of intersection between sort of sexual and gender identities, which that can be a lot to communicate to someone. And so I can understand the need to want to kind of find an accessible term. I think about the term gay, which is sort of used as a catch-all for many sexual orientation identities, but it's a hijacked word and it's a little artificial. So because gay is an old term and it's one that I personally have come to identify with, I sort of try and remind myself on the use of the word queer that it's a little bit like gay and it's just a word that's been selected to try and capture something. But that's the purpose of words. They exist to capture the meaning of something, and it's never going to be quite exact.  Christian:  Yeah, absolutely. Especially, I think, within this community where there's so much nuance and sort of differences that we can all celebrate about each other. I think precision is definitely something that's difficult. Also hearing sort of from your response there, a little bit of, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like maybe some change over time in, you know, in one direction or another. Or maybe not necessarily directional change, but just some changes in the way that you've perceived that word over time and the way that you've sort of grappled with it. I'm curious if I'm reading that correctly, sort of what stages of your life, if any, that correspond with the way that you've your changes in that perception of that word have come about.  Joe: So you know obviously it was a common derogatory term in my youth so you know in that in that sense you know there's always going to be an element of trigger quick i mean it's a microsecond but it still exists that i probably you know will never fully lose and i think the evolution over time is to have it began to appear in different places from within the community. And I can't recall the precise time, but I can generally sort of recall when it started to pop up and I had a very negative reaction and I really had to sort of stop and examine that. But I think really my bigger transition was after marriage equality and sort of rights for gays and lesbians were sort of solidified in a variety of areas, legal areas, and societally. And then the sites turned to trans equality. And that just sort of opened up. Sort of before that, I didn't really know any trans people. And so being, knowing, and it's how we all learn and evolve is through our connections with other people. So by becoming connected with people who identified as trans and some of the other parts of the alphabet that I had never known before, I started to understand the challenge between precision, but also just being able to communicate in a general way. And that sort of pushed my evolution in how I see the word.  Christian: And Emily, I think for you, sort of same question, what does the term queer mean to you personally? And how has your understanding of the use of that word, whether it be for yourself personally or broader from the community perspective? What has that been like for you?  Emily: Yeah, I, again, did grow up kind of in this weird in-between time of very much when I learned the word as a young person, I knew it had been used in a derogatory way to large swaths of people to disenfranchise them and harm them. But that was never my personal experience. I had never heard the word used in a derogatory way to me or to any of my friends. There were certainly other words that got used, but queer was never one of them. And I do think I was growing up in a time of reclaiming the word. And I think there are lots of benefits to it. I like the idea that especially for kids, for people in middle school who are learning who they are to not have to. Niche down and label themselves when they're still learning who they are and to have this word that I perceive as an umbrella term for just the larger LGBTQ queer community to just be able to say I'm queer and I maybe don't know exactly what that means for me yet but it means that I'm something different than this societal standard I have found very helpful and I know a lot of my peers have found it very helpful and I think in a larger community sense I know several non-binary people who find it just easier than saying gay or lesbian when that doesn't quite identify with the intersection of their gender identity and their sexual identity. And so I know that the word has been harmful to people and have over time spoken to older people and have realized that and certainly don't use it to describe someone who I know is not comfortable with the word. But in my generation, I found it very helpful. And I think a lot of people my age find a comfort in it, almost a sense of security of just this big blanket term that also includes all of us and allows us to refer to the larger community as a whole, kind of as queer. And I think that's really nice. And I also grew up watching the word get used in mainstream media In 2018, when they revived Queer Eye, I know the original Queer Eye, I think, and I didn't watch it at the time, but the early 2000s one, I think that word was being used in an almost subversive way. And in 2018, when it came out, that was just what the show was called. And that's just what we all called it. And I don't know anyone who batted an eye at that, because it was just a very normal part of our vernacular.  Christian: Yeah, that's a really interesting point with the differences in reaction to pop culture. You know, I didn't even think about Queer Eye, but you're absolutely right. I have a similar, I think, sort of reaction to you when I think about, you know, when we were younger and that show was coming out for the first time versus now. That's a really interesting observation. Joe, I'm curious, do you have any reaction to that as somebody who, you know, maybe was paying more attention to the environment when shows like that were coming around originally?  Joe: Yeah, it's interesting. I'll just sort of move, start more current and work backwards. You know, so when they when they relaunched, you know, Queer Eye, I did not have any reaction at all to the word, I think, just because it was already like a brand in a way. But when it came out originally, I was I was suspicious of the show. It was it was a show where I avoided it, I think, in part because of the title and a lack of like, I just wasn't sure. Like i knew there were plenty of of gay people involved in the show but i just wasn't quite sure what their take was going to be was it going to be kind of a wink wink not not gay people are just so strange and funny and and so it took me a while to watch it and then i'm like okay i kind of see it so i i agree with emily that there was a lot of subversion going on in in the its original iteration that didn't really exist the second time around because it was sort of like no big deal.  Christian: Yeah, I think that goes directly to sort of this development of language piece that we're talking about today. It sounds like, you know, listening to the two of you sort of describe your experiences that you, you know, sort of all of us now as we sit here today are on a similar page with the way that we interact with this sort of language. But it's interesting hearing the perspectives coming from sort of two different and distinct places with different and distinct experiences sort of driving those thoughts. I'm curious to focus on, you know, as a community, as a group of folks who do have different identities and are trying to find a way to move forward that involves language that we all feel comfortable with and that describes us all, what are our thoughts on sort of the broader impacts of language, of the word queer, and how are those intersectional identities and things that we're thinking about factoring in. So sort of with that in mind, I'm curious if either of you have encountered in your experiences any challenges or any pushback from folks within the LGBTQ community to the word queer, either because they don't feel that it represents them or because, you know, any other concerns that you've been faced with?  Emily: I certainly have had interactions with people a little older than me who have a similar reaction to Joe in that the word when they grew up with it wasn't what it means to me now. And so it is a little bit more startling to them to hear on a first brush. And if the conversation continues and it's realized that that's a word that's not just a little new or startling, but is actually gently triggering in the way that it is for many people. It stops being used in that conversation and with that person if they're uncomfortable with it because as much as i like it and as much as i think it is inclusive for the whole community and even if the other person in the conversation thinks that it doesn't change the fact that they have an experience with that specific word that is harmful and and brings back negative associations And I do really like the trend toward inclusive words that don't make people pick niche labels at an early age. I do really like the freedom that broader terms give us. But I do also think there is room for growth or to find different words that across the community, across generations can be a little bit more kind to everyone that are new. We could invent a new word that is all-inclusive that no one has had bad interactions with. I don't know how we would or what that would be, but that's my ideal world for the future of language.  Joe: That is also my vision, would be to come up with a word that doesn't have baggage associated with it. And I also echo Emily, is that I would love a term, which is sort of how queer is tending to be used to be broad and inclusive, as opposed to the alphabet soup. The alphabet soup also, I think forces, I mean, Emily's coming at it from a person from the perspective of someone who perhaps is still trying to figure out who they are as they're, you know, forming their identity. But I'm also thinking about it in terms of like, just how specific does a person need to be? And I appreciate that, you know, some people have pretty complicated identities around orientation and gender that require not just a word, but maybe a sentence, a few sentences, and that gets very personal very quickly. Particularly because they may be things that the person that they're interacting with may not even be that familiar. They might use the word, and the person that they're speaking with may not even understand what that means. And so the fact that a person is often in the position of having to explain their identity to someone, that's just exhausting. And does someone need that much detail? So I think having an umbrella term that people kind of generally understand that you have an identity that is not 90, what is it, 94% of the population, whatever the current stats are.  Christian:Yeah, that's a very interesting piece. And I actually think it ties into something that Emily had just said specifically in that last answer that she gave about, I think you used the word freedom, Emily, when you were talking about words like queer and how they afford folks who use those identifiers a little bit more freedom. I'm curious, especially having just listened to what Joe said, if you could elaborate on that a little bit, sort of what you meant by that when you said freedom and, you know, how it ties into some of the things we're talking about today.  Emily: I definitely agree with Joe in that it gives freedom to not have to disclose parts of yourself that maybe you're not comfortable. Talking to other people about queer is just a very umbrella blanket term that implies that you are not the same as 94% of the population, but you don't have to go into specifically what you feel if you don't want to. I also think it gives freedom for exploration and change. And I think because being queer is not the norm in society, especially for younger people, can be difficult to figure out what that means for you specifically and how you feel and what your identity is. And so to have this umbrella word feels free and safe to me to not have to pick something and then feel nervous later about saying that specific word I chose doesn't fit anymore. And now I need to change what I'm telling people about myself and the stigma that comes with that. And I think the worry for some young people that comes from deviating from the norm already and the deviating from the deviation you decided. And so just saying I'm queer from the jump, it provides, I think, a sense of freedom to learn and grow and a sense of safety in that.  Christian: Right. And that's so important. And I think, you know, we have now nowadays we have studies suggesting, you know, having freedom as somebody who's growing up and discovering your identity, I think, is so important in, you know, long term success and happiness. I think a big piece of this too, and you both touched on this already, is whether it's queer or whether it's other language, so much of our community's success in speaking with each other is about this idea of person-centered language, which is not specific to the LGBTQ community. But when we are talking about it in that way, using the language that people are using to describe themselves and sort of being willing to go on that journey with folks to the extent that they are, you know, finding out new things about their identities, using new words, sort of being willing to take that linguistic journey with them, I suppose. Joe, earlier, you know, speaking of linguistic journeys, you mentioned that you had sort of a strong negative reaction to the word queer the first, you know, first time, first couple of times that you heard it. And you said that you had to examine that reaction. I'm curious if you'd be willing to to share for us sort of what that process was like for you and what was your impetus to maybe take a step back from the shock or the negative reaction that had you feeling like it was worth examining?  Joe:  Well, I think any time I have a strong negative reaction to something, I just feel like it's worth examining what's going on. Sometimes it's very obvious, but other times I'm like, hmm, I'm really surprised that I feel so strongly this way. And I think it's partly because I think I've always thought it's a cool word. I mean, just the sound and in a way that like faggot, for instance, not a cool word. It just doesn't sound cool. it doesn't have like there's it doesn't have any uniqueness to it it's very harsh and so you know as i dug deeper into it i realized this that it and i love the idea of reclaiming words but there are a couple things that that sort of went on for me one was it was a little bit shocking because it was a word that you're not supposed to say and then people are saying it and there are other or reclaimed words in other communities. I know African Americans who have a very strong negative reaction to the use of the N-word by anyone, whether they are part of the African American community or not. And then I think there's also this other piece that is a challenge in reclaimed words, which is why it would be lovely for, and I think we will eventually evolve to a term that doesn't have baggage, but the challenge is who can use the word, right? It's It's been reclaimed, but who, who's allowed to use it and when, and, um, I think anytime you have a word that people are unsure, they're unsure about what it means exactly and who is allowed to use it, that creates a barrier. It's no longer inclusive. It's really quite exclusive. And that's a danger that I, you know, that I see. And I have to kind of think about like, if I start using it, how do I feel if other people, say an ally or just a random person on the street, uses it? Yeah, I'm still not 100% sure about how I feel.  Christian: It's definitely a key topic to sort of conceptualize for sure. It's interesting, right, when you think about this discussion too in terms of other communities outside of the LGBTQ+ community, right? And so I'm thinking about the way that other marginalized groups have their own language issues that come up. I'm curious if either of you have ever found yourself in an experience where you were either more comfortable or more informed about using language, that is specific to a marginalized group because of your experiences with words like queer and sort of the dynamic nature of LGBTQ+ language. I think that Joe makes a really good point about who can use words and when and how that is concerning in a lot of ways. And I think that having a lot of friends in different marginalized communities, I don't necessarily use words that maybe they have reclaimed or that they would use for themselves. Because if I'm not part of those communities, it doesn't feel like my place to use them. But to me, the queer community is broader. And again, I think as someone who hasn't experienced that word being used in a derogatory way and who has only ever encountered the word in a generally pretty positive way, it makes me feel more comfortable. If that's how I describe myself openly and my friends from other marginalized communities use that word for me, I don't mind it as much, especially, I think, because I know that they have a history with words that impact them. And so I'm more likely to understand that their intent with that word is positive and to support me and the way that I use that word. And they don't ever mean it in a derogatory way because they understand the power that words have. And I think that that kind of intersectionality is important. And I also think that the queer umbrella is so broad and encompasses so many other marginalized communities that there is a lot of interplay between different communities and the words that we use.  Joe: I would say from my perspective, I'm very sensitive to words. So I try and really pay attention to the words that people are using for themselves and about their community. I just pay a lot of attention. I will occasionally do the bystander thing, not just for our people within the queer community who have an identity I don't identify with, but are perhaps a topic of conversation. But also for other communities and to just highlight, you know, in a low key way, why a particular language that's being used might be problematic. And I'm not talking about slurs. I'm thinking about having been in a conversation about for the Latin community and the use of Latinx versus Latino / Latina, and just being thoughtful about the words that are used. And the fact that communities are not monolithic, I mean, we, by definition, are very broad, but within other marginalized communities, there's a broad range of identities that people hold, and language reflects that. And one of the problems with language is it's kind of a general label that works well a lot of the time, but it's going to chafe a number of people who are part of that community and people who the label is applied to. And I use that labeling not in a negative way, but just it's a term that's used to refer to them.  Christian: Yeah, and I think that's critical, right? That point about, you know, communities not being a monolith. So there's always going to be a certain amount of struggle. But I think what I'm hearing from both of you is that, you know, sort of grappling with language in the way that you have as a member of the LGBTQ community has given you sort of insights and an ability to think critically about language in other settings and as used by other groups as well. In a way that is really empathy forward, which I think is really awesome and something that is important for us as we move forward in this D&I space. I think that puts us at right about time. Emily and Joe, it has been an absolute pleasure talking with you today. Thank you so much for sharing your insights. Thank you everybody so much for listening to this month's episode of Inclusivity Included. We at Reed Smith are always happy to have you as listeners. I hope you all had a good time today and learned a lot. Thank you.  Outro: Inclusivity Included is a Reed Smith production. Our producers are Ali McCardell and Shannon Ryan. You can find our podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, reedsmith.com and our social media accounts.  Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for educational purposes. It does not constitute legal advice and is not intended to establish an attorney-client relationship, nor is it intended to suggest or establish standards of care applicable to particular lawyers in any given situation. Prior results do not  guarantee a similar outcome. Any views, opinions, or comments made by any external guest speaker are not to be attributed to Reed Smith LLP or its individual lawyers.  All rights reserved. Transcript is auto-generated.

Welcome to The Global Latin Factor Podcast, where cover Latino Everything.Today, we're honored to host a true trailblazer, born in La Paz, Bolivia, and one of the founding fathers of the renowned media conglomerate, Up2Something Media - Diego Escobar.Join us as we explore intriguing questions such as: What does the term "Latino/Latina" evoke for you? And delve into cherished memories from Bolivia and the journey to the USA, understanding the motivations behind migration. Was media always a part of your childhood dreams?Discover the fascinating story behind the inception of Up2Something Media, from its original name and logo to the transformative conversation in 2016. Amidst the challenges of Covid, witness the evolution of Up2Something and its impact on the media landscape.From interviewing Super Bowl champions to hosting vibrant events like the Carne Asada Fest and Centro Popular, we're committed to amplifying diverse voices and experiences.Join us as we share our journey of conceptualizing events like "And Now… The Vibes" and co-founding the "First Sunday Block Party," showcasing local talent and fostering community connections.As we strive to spotlight Latin creatives and announce the launch of our new series, "Boliviando," featuring Diego Escobar, we invite you to join us under the Up2Something umbrella. Together, let's celebrate the richness of Bolivian culture and the stories that define us.Don't miss out on the conversation – subscribe now and be part of The Global Latin Factor Podcast family!#thegloballatinfactor #LatinoTrailblazers #BolivianCulture#LatinMedia #Up2SomethingMedia#LatinoPodcast #BoliviaUnwrapped #DiverseVoices#CommunityConnectionsDiego Social Media:IG: https://www.instagram.com/diego_escobar/Up2Something:IG: https://www.instagram.com/up2somethingmedia/WEBSITE | https://thegloballatinfactor.comSupport the showSocial Media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheGlobalLatinFactorPodcastTwitter: https://twitter.com/thegloballatin1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegloballatinfactorpodcastTiktok: ...

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#Tucson sign my petition to run for sheriff! Go.azsos.gov/xww9 Yes thank you karen! Your insight was really wonderful I remember it well and yesterday last night I called Jack Smith and the justice department to thank them for their service! And I encourage everybody else to do so too❤By the way Jack Smith would be the perfect candidate for my VP running mate!!!!! He would also make an incredible attorney general probably the best we have ever seen MEIDASMIGHTY

There's actually a second part of this Grand breaking interview! But they don't want you or me to hear it! This poor man #patrickflanagan was blessed as being reincarnated #tesla. At the age of 13 He got his science fair project taken away by the pentagon! It was a device that detected explosions anywhere and on planet from icbms or nuclear, atomic explosions. He also invented- A LONG TIME AGO! - a device that allowed people deaf people to hear! But the f****** government thought that they want to use that to make sleeper cells and terrorists to terrorize us! When I'm president the government will have to make up for all the harm it's done! All those people who were killed assassinated by the government because of their inventions? All their families will be compensated and if this guy Patrick Flanagan is still alive, he will become our national scientist! We will establish a National science academy of these geniuses who will put their minds together and give us all hashtag freeenergy! For one. Based on Tesla's thoughts, we will exhume his stolen documents and shut down h aa r p! Shut down the #cia! Shut down the Pentagon! We don't need them anymore to block our progress as a nation. They are a problem, they were established using Nazi scientists about 1600 of them escaped the trials at hashtag Nuremberg and instead their records were cleansed and they were put as heads of the newly formed CIA which is basically the God damn Gestapo in America; and #nasa AKA never a straight answer!!! There will be a new transparency in government when I'm president that has never been seen before and everybody will benefit. Health insurance for all.. free education for all. Basic universal income why not? Will will have lots of money because we're not blowing it giving it to #Israel to attack & #genocide their neighbors; or feeding the #militaryindustrialcomplex. I tweeted a link to this show on #gaia to Twitter overlord #elonmask, suggesting he put #flanagan on the #Tesla #payroll! And when I'm president, Patrick Flanagan & his family will be reimbursed for the government having spirited away his inventions as "secret' all these years!!! We will also change frequency from 440 - the frequency of discord and chaos, which was intentional by our government!!!! - and switch it back to #432, the healing frequency. I bet overnight crime will drop to nearly zero across America. Besides, we won't have poverty anymore! Or #homelessness or need! As #fdr said, the most important most popular president in our history, WE HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR ITSELF TRISTA4PREZ

Keep the faith y'all! This much diaper Donald's getting disqualified he won't be on the ballot after all haha

I wonder if #JackSmith has always been so keenly fond of sandwiches! I wonder if that is how he is motivated- sandwiches at the end of the rainbow

Great news america! Diaper Donald is almost certainly going to be DISQUALIFIED this month January!! CONGRATULATIONS

Back by unpopular demand! Yes thank you karen! Your insight was really wonderful I remember it well and yesterday last night I called Jack Smith and the justice department to thank them for their service! And I encourage everybody else to do so too❤By the way Jack Smith would be the perfect candidate for my VP running mate!!!!! He would also make an incredible attorney general probably the best we have ever seen MEIDASMIGHTY

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Some great news! Diaper Donald will likely be blocked from ballot access this month in january! Because his maga radical activist judge appointments are not likely to go out of their way and appear to "political"!! Yes thank you karen! Your insight was really wonderful I remember it well and yesterday last night I called Jack Smith and the justice department to thank them for their service! And I encourage everybody else to do so too❤By the way Jack Smith would be the perfect candidate for my VP running mate!!!!! He would also make an incredible attorney general probably the best we have ever seen MEIDASMIGHTY

Talk about cognitive decline! Who is the dude who said may they "rot in hell" on Christmas Day? Makes diaperdon the real Grinch who's trying to steal christmas!Yes thank you karen! Your insight was really wonderful I remember it well and yesterday last night I called Jack Smith and the justice department to thank them for their service! And I encourage everybody else to do so too❤By the way Jack Smith would be the perfect candidate for my VP running mate!!!!! He would also make an incredible attorney general probably the best we have ever seen MEIDASMIGHTY

This dude has some interesting things to say about the Bible in fact he is putting together his own Bible! Yes thank you karen! Your insight was really wonderful I remember it well and yesterday last night I called Jack Smith and the justice department to thank them for their service! And I encourage everybody else to do so too❤By the way Jack Smith would be the perfect candidate for my VP running mate!!!!! He would also make an incredible attorney general probably the best we have ever seen MEIDASMIGHTY

HELP ME FIGHT TO GET MY ANIMALS BACK! gofund.me/10543a02 #christians listen thoughts #loves #prayers #healing for the safe return of all my pets! ASAP thank you! Bless your hearts

Cybercrime Magazine host Scott Schober attended RaícesCon 2023, the premier conference and summit for Latino, Latina, and Latinx members of the cybersecurity community. Tune in to hear from Eric J. Belardo, executive director and founder of Raíces Cyber, Llauryn Iglehart, chief of the Office of Equity, Diversity, Inclusion, and Accessibility at CISA, and more. To learn more about Raíces Cyber and RaícesCon2023, visit https://www.raicescon.org.

How long have Latinos been at Cornell? Is there a story to tell about the LatinX community at this Ivy League University and its involvement in grassroots activism and the Board of Trustees? How has the Latine community contributed to Cornell's commitment to any person, any study over the University's 158 years? Join Cornell Latino Alumni Association at large board members Joseph De Los Santos MHA '19 and Freddy Terrazas Escamilla MHA '19 and Vice President Kety Esquivel '97 as they discuss the upcoming CLAA Series on the Fresh from Hill Cornell podcast. Over this limited series the trio interview key Latino/Latina alumni and Board of Trustees members while discussing key events in CLAA history at Cornell.   Put your earbuds in and join us for this first episode where Kety, Joseph, and Freddy walk through their background, their decision to attend Cornell, and the impact that the university has had on their lives and careers. We welcome all students, alumni, family and friends of the university to hear how CLAA has had an impact on Cornell since some of the first classes graduated from the University.  Read the ⁠episode transcript.⁠ Fresh from the Hill was created by Amanda Massa. The CLAA episodes were edited and recorded by Joseph De Los Santos, Freddy Terrazas Escamilla, and Kety Esquivel. Intro music, which that incorporates the sound of the coqui, a frog indigenous to Puerto Rico, by Leonard Washington & Joseph De Los Santos. Closing music by Kia Albertson-Rogers '13, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠koa3@cornell.edu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Artwork by Chris Kelly. *The views expressed by Fresh from the Hill hosts and guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of Cornell University.

The CCDA Online Institute & Missio Alliance partner to present, “Brown Church: Five Centuries of Latina/Latino Social Justice, Theology, & Identity.” Join us to learn more about the history and theology of Latino/Latina culture and what Robert Chao Romero's newest book calls “Brown Church.” Romero considers how this movement has responded to these and other injustices throughout its history by appealing to the belief that God's vision for redemption includes heavenly promises and the transformation of every aspect of our lives and the world. Lisa Rodriguez-Watson will guide our conversation with Robert Chao Romero about how his Chinese-Mexican experience has impacted his life & faith.

Welcome to The Global Latin Factor Podcast! In this episode, we're excited to have Mark from  @marksteadytv   as our guest. Mark is a talented YouTuber, content creator, and community philanthropist. Join us as we dive into the world of Latino/Latina identity and hear Mark's personal experiences and thoughts on being called Latino. We'll also explore Mark's early life as a first-generation immigrant and how his parents came to the United States. Discover Mark's passion for content creation, particularly in the captivating world of lowriders. We'll discuss his mindset when attending events and how he approaches recording. We'll also uncover the concept of Steady Blvd'N and the incredible footage Mark captures, including wild moments from hop contests and cruising. Mark's interviews with members of the High Class Bike Club and his involvement in a big concert will also be highlighted. Don't miss the details of Mark's annual toy drive and the valuable insights he's gained about the lowrider and bike communities through his content creation journey. Tune in to The Global Latin Factor Podcast for an engaging conversation with Mark of Mark Steady TV, where culture, passion, and community converge!Tune in now to The Global Latin Factor Podcast and embark on a captivating journey with Mark of Mark Steady TV, where culture, passion, and community intertwine. Don't miss this opportunity to gain insight into the world of content creation and philanthropy in one exciting conversation!#thegloballatinfactor #marksteadytv #lowriders #lowridercommunity #cars #antiquecars Mark Steady Social: IG: https://www.instagram.com/marksteadytv/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/ @marksteadytv  FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100069563089667VIDEOGRAPHER AND EDIT BY | https://www.instagram.com/cid_studioSupport the showSocial Media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheGlobalLatinFactorPodcastTwitter: https://twitter.com/thegloballatin1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegloballatinfactorpodcastTiktok: ...

On this episode of The Journalism Salute, we're joined by Idaho Capital Sun reporter Mia Maldonado.Mia never took a journalism class in college but was able to start her career as part of the Voces Internship of Idaho program, which coordinates internships for aspiring Latino/Latina journalists with local newsrooms.Mia talked about her time as an intern at the Capital Sun and as a breaking news reporter at the Idaho Statesman. She recounted some of the prominent stories she's covered and talked about how being a journalist has influenced her worldview (and led to her getting a dog). She also explained the importance of the Voces program to her career.We were also joined by Ximena Bustillo, a reporter for NPR and co-founder of the Voces Internship program along with journalist Nicole Foy. Ximena explained the origin story of the program, why this program was needed, and what the program's goals are moving forwardVoces on Twitter: http://twitter.com/vocesinternshipMia's Salute: Investigative Reporters & EditorsThank you as always for listening. Please send us feedback at journalismsalute@gmail.com, visit our website at thejournalismsalute.org and Mark's website (MarkSimonmedia.com) or tweet us at @journalismpod.

Documentaire- en filmmaker Michiel van Erp koos als zijn hoogtepunt de documentaire Paris is Burning. Een film uit 1991 die nog steeds een grote invloed heeft op de populaire - en zeker de lgbtqi+ - cultuur. Toen Michiel van Erp Paris is Burning voor het eerst zag, dacht hij: 'dit wil ik ook'. De film was voor hem dé inspiratie om zelf documentairemaker te worden. "Ik wil werelden laten zien waar je normaal niet makkelijk binnenstapt". 

What makes one Latino or Latina? I have been thinking about this after I replied to an Instagram post regarding Gina Rodriguez's response after she was asked if she needs to speak the language in order to identify or be considered to be Latina. She responded by saying that she is not defined by anyone's definition of Latina and that she walks in her world confidently. Just like her, I agree that there isn't a one size fits all for any demographic. I have lived experiences as a Latina raised in the U.S. and have learned from other individuals who have faced ridicule by other Latinx people who believed they weren't real enough to identify as part of the Latin American community. This is the gist of this episode and I share my sentiments on it as well as two stories from people who have been made to feel outcast and/or denied to be fully accepted in their own Latin American community. Please keep in mind that this is a sensitive topic and while you may not agree with what I have to say, you are expected to be respectful. Any hateful, mean or bullying comments are not accepted. We can all agree to disagree amicably. Thank you. Connect with Dali Rivera DaliTalks: https://www.dalitalks.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dalitalks/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dalitalk Please subscribe and share this podcast. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/dalitalks/message

In honor of National Hispanic Heritage Month, AHLA has partnered with the Hispanic National Bar Association to present this three-part series highlighting the career journeys of Latino/Latina health law leaders. In the third episode, Gelvina Rodriguez Stevenson, Vice President, General Counsel, The Wistar Institute, and Esteban Rodriguez, Counsel, O'Melveny & Myers LLP, speak with Lisa Pino, Former Director, Office for Civil Rights, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Prior to that role, Lisa served as the New York State Department of Health's Executive Deputy Commissioner, where she led New York's operational response to the COVID-19 pandemic, and she also served as Senior Counselor at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

In honor of National Hispanic Heritage Month, AHLA has partnered with the Hispanic National Bar Association to present this three-part series highlighting the career journeys of Latino/Latina health law leaders. In the second episode, Gelvina Rodriguez Stevenson, Vice President, General Counsel, The Wistar Institute, and Esteban Rodriguez, Counsel, O'Melveny & Myers LLP, speak with Jorge Lopez, Executive Vice President & General Counsel, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. Prior to that role, Jorge was head of Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Field's health care and life sciences practice and served as a legal advisor to Bill Clinton's presidential campaign from 1991-1992.

In honor of National Hispanic Heritage Month, AHLA has partnered with the Hispanic National Bar Association to present this three-part series highlighting the career journeys of Latino/Latina health law leaders. In the first episode, Gelvina Rodriguez Stevenson, Vice President, General Counsel, The Wistar Institute, and Esteban Rodriguez, Counsel, O'Melveny & Myers LLP, speak with Sarina Rivera, Assistant General Counsel, Genentech. In her role, Sarina has provided strategic health care and FDA regulatory counseling to global and U.S. R&D organizations, and she currently supports Genentech's pharmaceutical technical group and is active in the organization's diversity and inclusion initiatives.

This week, Historian and Professor of History at the University of Central Florida, Luis Martinez-Fernandez joins Abby in the classroom to help explain Hispanic Heritage Month. Professor Martinez-Fernandez emphasizes how this is a celebration of rich diversity and culture and that this month-long holiday should not be reduced to food and sombreros. He also reflects on the political correctness that has encapsulated the community, as people pivot from identifying as Latino/Latina to Latinx. Later, Professor Martinez-Fernandez shares with Abby his love and pride in being a member of the Hispanic community. Keep up with Abby after class on Twitter: @abbyhornacek Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How can we make Spanish more inclusive? Today we're talking about the evolution of our language, and the pushback against it.

Tonight our guest is the Founder of LEXIT, Jesse Holguin. He shares his powerful testimony about his faith and salvation through Christ. He also talks to Bryce Eddy about the disconnect between the Democrat Party's agenda's and values and those of the Latino/Latina community. To get a FREE info kit on diversifying and protecting your savings with precious metals in a TAX-SHELTERED account text LIBERTY to 989898. BE A THREAT TO THE GREAT RESET! Join our community by Subscribing to us on: Liftable TV - https://watch.liftable.tv/series/XOi2uRcOSGlo-liberty-station Rumble - https://rumble.com/c/c-1611564 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiXnArqAIXmVLZSSwEyd1HQ Podcast - https://omny.fm/shows/liberty-station Check out the LEXIT Website here - https://www.wearelexit.com/ Check out our latest Ryan Heath episode here - https://omny.fm/shows/liberty-station/ryan-heath-gender-transition-camps-in-schools-libeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tonight our guest is the Founder of LEXIT, Jesse Holguin. He shares his powerful testimony about his faith and salvation through Christ. He also talks to Bryce Eddy about the disconnect between the Democrat Party's agenda's and values and those of the Latino/Latina community.To get a FREE info kit on diversifying and protecting your savings with precious metals in a TAX-SHELTERED account text LIBERTY to 989898.BE A THREAT TO THE GREAT RESET!Join our community by Subscribing to us on:Liftable TV - https://watch.liftable.tv/series/XOi2uRcOSGlo-liberty-stationRumble - https://rumble.com/c/c-1611564YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiXnArqAIXmVLZSSwEyd1HQPodcast - https://omny.fm/shows/liberty-stationCheck out the LEXIT Website here - https://www.wearelexit.com/Check out our latest Ryan Heath episode here - https://omny.fm/shows/liberty-station/ryan-heath-gender-transition-camps-in-schools-libe

I know many of us have heard the term Afro Latino/Latina. Afro is hairstyle it's not a race, culture or country. Latin is a language not a race ,culture or country. So why many people in the America's have used this term in the past 15 years. Our people are soo lost spiritually mentally wow. Every time we used those term we sound stupid and dumb.

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For San Antonio student Javier Hernandez, the difference between fulfilling his dream of attending a four-year university hundreds of miles from home and opting for a lower-cost local community college was an unexpected bill for a family funeral. In her five-part series “The Enduring Gap,” Texas Public Radio's Camille Phillips explored which support systems and services make the biggest difference for Latinx and other students who face barriers to educational success. Phillips gleaned fascinating insights from her survey of 2,600 local college students. What does it really take to build a college-going culture among young people? How did San Antonio's long-standing racial and economic disparities put Latino students at greater risk of missing out on college amid the COVID-19 pandemic? Plus, Phillips shares story ideas for other reporters covering Latino/Latina students and college access and completion issues more broadly.

For San Antonio student Javier Hernandez, the difference between fulfilling his dream of attending a four-year university hundreds of miles from home and opting for a lower-cost local community college was an unexpected bill for a family funeral. In her five-part series “The Enduring Gap,” Texas Public Radio's Camille Phillips explored which support systems and services make the biggest difference for Latinx and other students who face barriers to educational success. Phillips gleaned fascinating insights from her survey of 2,600 local college students. What does it really take to build a college-going culture among young people? How did San Antonio's long-standing racial and economic disparities put Latino students at greater risk of missing out on college amid the COVID-19 pandemic? Plus, Phillips shares story ideas for other reporters covering Latino/Latina students and college access and completion issues more broadly.

Gelvina Rodriguez Stevenson, Associate General Counsel, Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, speaks to three Latino and Latina health care and life sciences attorneys about their career journeys, the status of Latinos and Latinas in the legal profession, and the advice they would give to students or early career attorneys interested in entering the health law field. Gelvina's guests are Marcela Kirberger, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary, Elanco Animal Health, Michelle Lucero, Chief Administrative Officer and General Counsel, Children's Hospital Colorado, and Dan Mateo, Partner, Holland & Knight. Provided in collaboration with the Hispanic National Bar Association.

Episode Notes [“MALAMENTE,” by Rosalía] Maria & Natalia: Hi!  Natalia: Welcome to “Guatever.” Maria: I'm Maria Caamaño.  Natalia: And I'm Natalia Camino. Maria: And today we are talking about something that's… Natalia: A little controversial. Maria: A little bit spicy! Natalia: But we have very strong opinions. Maria: Yes, very...I think strong is the right word. Natalia: Right? Look at me with my adjectives.  Maria: This has been kind of like...honestly, I think that it's received enough attention, but I… Natalia: It still doesn't have a lot of attention.  Maria: Yeah, exactly. So, if y'all didn't know, on September 12th of this year, the VMAs took place. And one of the categories that was in there is “Best Latin Song”. So, the nominees for this category were Shakira and the Black Eyed Peas' “Girl Like Me,” Maluma's “Hawái,” Karol G's “Bichota,” J. Balvin, Dua Lipa, Bad Bunny, and Tainy's “Un Dia,” and Bad Bunny and Jhay Cortez's “Dákiti.” And of course… Natalia and Maria: Billie Eilish and Rosalía. Maria: For, I don't even know the song.  Natalia: I don't even know the song  Maria: Literally. For “Lo Vas A Olvidar.” Natalia: And so what's interesting about this predicament in a sense is that, keep in mind this is the best Latin song... Maria: Yes.  Natalia: And one of the song nominations includes no Latin artists. Maria: Literally. So naturally, that was the song that won. Natalia: Yes. I think...So we want to dive deeper into Rosalía and kind of like what she represents within the Latin music industry of the appropriation of Latin culture by Spanish. And so I think it's gotten to the point where we mentioned Rosalía and we're...like some of our friends were confused.  Maria: No, yeah, literally. Natalia: Because they're like, “Oh, I thought she was Latina.” And we're like, “No, like, she's not.” Maria: She's really not.  Natalia: She's from Spain, which makes her Hispanic, but not Latina.  Maria: Exactly.  Natalia: But she has appropriated the culture to a certain point...  Maria: That's just unacceptable. Honestly, me and Nat have – we've tried to record this episode probably like four times.  Natalia: Yeah.  Maria: And honestly, it never sat right with us because we thought, “Oh, people are gonna think that we're trying to cancel her...that we're trying to make it like a huge thing.” It's really not. Natalia: We just want to bring awareness to this. Maria: And like, have accountability. Because honestly, like, I love her music.  Natalia: No, like “MALAMENTE” was one of my most listened to albums. If you haven't listened to it... Maria: It's beautiful.  Natalia: It's beautiful.  Maria: But enjoying an artist's music does not excuse their unacceptable behavior.  Natalia: And we felt like we could talk about this because many times like some publications or like certain people, either one, shouldn't be talking and giving their opinion about this, based on their own identity. Or two, don't understand the complexity of it fully. Maria: Exactly. So we'll break it down a little bit. As Nat said, Rosalía was born in Barcelona, which is in Spain – if you did not know. Which essentially makes her Hispanic. A lot of people don't understand the difference between Hispanic and Latinx. So Hispanic means Spanish speaking. So it essentially includes Spain and any other Spanish speaking country, even if it's not in Latin America. Natalia: And then in regards to Latinx or Latiné or Latino/Latina – that's an entire other argument and story – but that includes Latin American countries, including countries that don't speak Spanish, such as Brazil, Haiti.  Maria: Yeah.  Natalia: There are a few others. But yeah, that's the distinct difference.  Maria: Yes. And so I think that a lot of the time people have...they don't understand the difference between it and I especially think that we've been seeing that with her getting so many nominations for the Latin category.  Natalia: Yeah.  Maria: Which is also like, honestly, like me and Nat have talked about this. It's complex because they obviously can't make an entire category just for Spanish people when it comes to like, let's say this is the MTV VMA's for like the US let's say. It differs when it comes to like the Latin Grammys, but… Natalia: It's a complex issue that doesn't necessarily have a solution and one, like Rosalía does produce good music, and she deserves recognition. But just the way in which the Academy or like the music industry operates, it in a way undermines the hard work of Latinos/Latinas. And because of this, we feel like it's problematic. Maria: Yeah. So, essentially, as we've already said, Billie and Rosalía won the Best Latin award for their song “Lo Vas A Olvidar,” which first of all, none of them are Latin, so why were they nominated? First of all. Second of all, this song did not deserve to win anyways. Natalia: In comparison to the other songs nominated, Rosalía and Billie Eilish's song barely ranked, I believe. And even if it did, it was not a huge success. Maria: No, like I genuinely when I see it every time I'm like – I've heard it but it wasn't something that I added to a playlist. Natalia: Meanwhile, like “Dákiti” by Bad Bunny – all these songs charted so high. Maria: Yeah! Maluma's “Hawái” charted super high… Natalia: “Un Día”! Maria: “Un Día” charted super high! “Dákiti” was a huge success. Like, it doesn't make sense that they won, literally. Natalia: Also, because the other songs are a lot more representative of Latin music, I think. Maria: Oh, definitely.  Natalia: Yeah.  Maria: So, another reason why me and Nat talk a lot about the Rosalía issue is because she loves to say that she's Latina. Natalia: She made this entire TikTok, where it's like the audio.  Maria: Oh, yeah! “I'm an island girl...” Natalia and Maria:  “Me no speak-y English!” Natalia: As if she is either Dominican or Puerto Rican.  Maria: Yeah.  Natalia: And that's like, what she meant through the audio. And so like, even if you just read the comments, it's very polarized… Maria: We can read some of them if you want.  Natalia: Yeah.  Maria: Some of the comments on this TikTok are...People said, “Colonizer vibes,” “Spaniards when they colonized Latin America: Only espanish!” Everyone was arguing, like fighting. Yeah, cause people were like, “Why are you so pressed? Like she can say...she can do whatever she wants!” Natalia: And I think this is even like a debate within the Latin community. It's just like, to what extent? Maria: Yeah, like, I didn't get annoyed that much at like the TikTok. I – the thing that and Nat knows – this really made me mad. Um, Billboard has this series, called “Growing up Latino.” And they did an episode on Rosalía. And it was like, she was like, she says she feels 100% Latina because she feels at home in countries like Panama and Mexico. And people make her feel so nice. And like, okay? Natalia: It's one thing to like – obviously, she should feel welcomed in these countries, but another thing is to self identify. Maria: Yes. I don't want to say that like she's not... Natalia: Like discredited the challenges she… Maria: She's faced because like, obviously, it's hard to make it in the US music industry just...  Natalia: In general. Maria: Like, as someone who's international in general. But I still think that like – me and Nat have talked about this. There's a lot of Latino talent that deserves, also, recognition.  Maria: Yeah. And she's taking up those spaces, like by adding her into these categories and by continuing like – this isn't the first time she's gotten like a Latin VMA. Natalia: No, and like in 2019, like the Latin Grammys... Maria: Oh, yeah!  Natalia: She swept, which... Maria: Literally! Natalia: To the point where other Latino artists… Maria: Boycotted! Natalia: Boycotted. Like J. Balvin, who was like… Maria: Maluma.  Natalia: Maluma. Natalia: Like, I think Daddy Yankee even said something about it.  Maria: Yeah, I think so.  Natalia: And so like, these giant names within the industry… Maria: Were mad because it's true.  Natalia: These spaces were created for Latinos, and are being taken up by people who are not Latino. Maria: Exactly. And also, like, it's super annoying that she keeps getting placed in the urban category. Like the urban music category. And like, I wouldn't say that she makes urban music.  Natalia: It's similar to like – for like a more American reference – Tyler the Creator being placed within the rap category. Like a lot of people were mad about that. I think it was in 2020 when this happened, and even he was like, “I'm in this category because I'm black, not because of the music I produce.” But for Rosalía, she keeps being placed in the urban category, which is a predominantly like… Maria: A lot of urban music comes from Afro-Latino roots.  Natalia: And for a Spanish person, someone from Spain, to be nominated within those categories and taking up that space. Maria: Yeah, that just doesn't sit right with me. Natalia: That's problematic.  Maria: And it's like, me and Nat have said it over and over. This is not to discredit her.  Natalia: No.  Maria: She's made really good music, and like she's a great performer.  Natalia: I mean these past songs? Possibly... Maria and Natalia: Hmm. Maria: But wait, here's the thing though. I think that her songs have decreased in value because she's trying to replicate what she sees people like getting...like being successful in reggaeton. And like she's trying to get into dembow now! Natalia: So Rosalía is classically trained in flamenco and the beauty of her music is the way in which she fuses these like traditional flamenco sounds with a more modern take. And her, I think, even moving away from that in a sense is like...like her music has, in a way, not been as good. Or not as original. Like, her music isn't original anymore. Maria: No, like, it just sounds really basic to me now. Honestly, like, even if we discard the entire thing about her identity, I just genuinely think that she shouldn't be getting awards if her music is also just not that good anymore. Like, I'm sorry, but like it's just not that good anymore. Natalia: Maria and I have discussed this for a couple of years now, actually.  Maria: Yeah, it's been years actually.  Natalia: And it's honestly just like – it's a continuous problem going on within the industry. And obviously, like, we don't really have a means to solve it. But we do think it's important to bring light to these types of situations that are always kind of like swept under the rug.  Natalia: Her winning and being nominated is a representation of a bigger problem. Yeah, I think that needs to be discussed more. And obviously, like, this is like, we're only really touching the surface of this situation.  Natalia: She also stole Rauw Alejandro!  Maria: She also stole Rauw! That one me and Natalia will never be okay with.  Natalia: That's where a lot of people were like this is the line. Maria: Yes, she...That's it. That's where I draw the line. Good for her. Natalia: Get it, I guess.  Maria: Good for her. I mean, but... Natalia: Not our man!  Maria: Damn, that one hurt me! Oh, no. Yeah. Um, obviously, me and Nat are not experts. We are not scholars! This is just our opinion. Natalia: And our observations. Maria: Yes. And definitely, we can't solve anything. We have no type of power in the music industry. We are just two measly college students making a podcast. Natalia: But yes, if you obviously have different opinions, we're happy to hear it. And like, I think everyone has a different perspective on this. And there's a lot of debate.  Maria: Yes. Natalia: Even within the Latino community. Maria: Yeah. Cause I feel like there are some people who are like, and I'm not – this isn't in any way accusing – there are people who are willing to be like, “That's okay.” Some people – I mean, we're not going to get into this debate because this is a huge debate. And I don't think that also me and Nat have a say in what is cultural appropriation and what is cultural appreciation. That's a whole nother debate that we won't get into.  Natalia: And obviously, the lines are blurred in many cases.  Maria: Exactly. So it's like, we can't decide what's right or wrong. We can just talk about what doesn't sit right with us. But we can at least talk about the music industry, because I do think that that is indicative of a whole nother problem. Natalia: A bigger problem. Yeah, but yes, thank you for listening. Maria: This was a little bit more serious than we usually do. Hmm. Natalia: Let us know what you think.  Maria: Yes.  Natalia: Leave your thoughts in the comments.  Maria: I–Is this gonna be a recurring thing now? Natalia: Yes! Maria:  No, but yeah. Thank you so much for tuning in. And yeah, if you guys have any comments, or would like to have a discussion about this...  Natalia: Let us know!  Maria: Reach out to me or Nat. Natalia: And thank you so much for listening. Maria: Thank you so much. This has been Maria Caamaño. Natalia: And Natalia Camino. Maria: For NBN Audio. [“MALAMENTE,” by Rosalía] This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

We welcome YOU back to America's leading higher education podcast, The EdUp Experience! In this episode, President Series #110, YOUR guest is Dr. Anthony Cruz, Campus President at Miami Dade College - Hialeah Campus, YOUR special co-host is Dr. Michelle Cantu-Wilson, YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio, & YOUR sponsor is MDT Marketing! In this amazing episode, Joe and guest co-host Dr. Michelle Cantu-Wilson talk with Tony about re-engaging community college students in the Latino/Latina community. The critically important points Tony makes regarding awarding certificates & ensuring certificate credentials ladder into an Associate Degree bring some sense to the "wild-west" environment that is certificate education. Tony also discusses why MDC - Hialeah campus & greater MDC system are critically important in upskilling & reskilling the workforce! Dr. Anthony Cruz recently served as vice chancellor of student affairs at St. Louis Community College in St. Louis, Missouri. During his 22 years of higher education experience, Dr. Cruz has used his expertise to increase educational opportunities, enhance the student experience & bolster student success. Prior to joining St. Louis Community College, Dr. Cruz worked at several community colleges and universities, including Sinclair Community College, Cincinnati State Technical & Community College, Broward College, Kaplan University, & Florida International University. Another awesome episode with YOUR sponsor MDT Marketing! Get YOUR free marketing consultation today! mdtmarketing.com/edup Thank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp! Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio ● Learn more about what others are saying about their EdUp experience ● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience! ● YOU can follow us on Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | Twitter | YouTube Thank YOU for listening! We make education YOUR business!

In our first episode back after a pandemic-induced hiatus, In Vision with Dee Carroll connects with Dr. Diana Canto-Sims, a first-generation Hispanic ECP who knew very early on she wanted to cater to the Spanish-speaking community. After a fun summary of Diana's own background and why she eventually launched her wholesale line La Vida Eyewear, Diana gives Dee a little vocabulary lesson to help to clear up the difference and any confusion between the terms Hispanic, Latino/Latina and Latinx (11:30). If you need a little clarity on terminology, it's highly enlightening.

We love exploring and learning more about different cultures. That's exactly why for this episode, we're getting to know more about the culture of the Latin people. We're here to break down that stereotype that all Latinos are Mexicans or that they can't speak English. Let's talk it out in this episode with our Latino/Latina friends featuring Stephany from Self-Conchas Podcast. 

As more COVID-19 vaccines become available and the number of shots going into arms is ramping up, so too have efforts across Southern California to bring vaccine awareness and assuage concerns about getting the shot, especially in some communities of color where both vulnerability to COVID-19 and hesitancy about getting the vaccine are high.     As part of its vaccine awareness efforts, Los Angeles County has partnered with more than 50 community-based organizations who have been doing outreach in communities across the county that are disproportionately affected by the virus. And as the Wall Street Journal reports, one area of focus of this outreach has been in some Latino communities, particularly among agricultural workers, where vaccine myths about government tracking and deportation can fuel hesitancy to get the vaccine. Today on AirTalk, we’ll look at some of the strategies these outreach workers and organizations are employing to fight vaccine hesitancy in Latino communities and find out what’s working. GUESTS: Conrado Bárzaga, M.D., CEO of Desert Healthcare District & Foundation,  a nonprofit organization in Palm Springs that connects Coachella Valley residents to health and wellness services and programs through philanthropy, health facilities, information and community education, and public policy Marisela Blancas, coordinator of community health programs at Vision y Compromiso, one of the organizations partnering with the Los Angeles County Community Equity Fund to do outreach on COVID-19 prevention and vaccination in underserved communities; she is also a “promotora,” a community health liaison that does outreach and connects residents in the area she serves with health and social services, and during the pandemic has been focused on vaccine hesitancy in Latino communities

This week we discuss our views on the petition going round in the last couple of weeks to "Include Latinx/Hispanic as an ethnic group in the 2021 census", from how big of a deal it really is to have our own box, to whether we would personally like to be categorised as "Latinx" (spoiler: NOPE) or "Hispanic". We go into the history of the actual term "Latino/Latina" and also other ethnicities who don't have a specific box to themselves. For those interested in the choice of music at the end, you'll be surprised to hear that Loz has converted

Hello everyone and welcome to A Pretty Normal Podcast, I am your host, Xavier Diaz. Quick reminder that we have started streaming the interviews live on Youtube and Facebook and Twitch! This gives you the opportunity to join the conversation and ask questions to all of the amazing guests that come on the show. So make sure to follow us on all of our social media handles so you get updated every time we go live! In this episode I am joined by Annabel Garcia Torres, host of Latinx On The Rise, a show focusing on conversations with high achieving Latinx movers and shakers. We discussed why she started her show, not feeling "Latino/Latina" enough, why more Latinos/Latinas haven't adapted the term "Latinx", Marjorie Taylor Green and more! Connect with Annabel on Instagram @latinxontherise Support the show at www.aprettynormal.com Subscribe to the show and follow us on Facebook // Instagram // Twitter // Youtube Support the show by visiting www.aprettynormal.com Remember to leave us a rating and review if you enjoy the content brought to you every week. Message us if you would like to come on the show or know anyone who you would like to see come on the show. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprettynormal/support

Dr. Alexandra Rengel is the managing partner of the firm Mercado & Rengel, LLP and an Associate Professor at IE Business School. Dr. Rengel has broad experience as a litigator in the United States at the trial and appellate levels in both State and Federal Courts. A frequent guest lecturer on Privacy, Business Law, and Leadership, she is the author of Privacy in the 21st Century. Dr. Rengel shares her thoughts on leadership in Latinx communities, and the types of biases this diverse ethnic group has to overcome in the Western world.   Key Takeaways [3:35] There are many preconceived notions of what define a “good leader.” When different ethnic groups were asked to draw an effective leader, they all drew a similar image. A character, often a white man, middle-aged, wearing a suit and looking powerful. It leaves a lot of people out. [4:55] Some of the wealthiest people in the world are of Latinx descent but they’re relatively unknown to the western world. [9:05] Truth is, we all have biases, but the key is being actively aware of them and working towards breaking them. [10:00] Machismo in the Latino community is still a problem. Latin/Hispanic women are still being questioned if they’re too aggressive, or too masculine when they take on leadership roles. The criticism is coming from both genders. [13:00] It’s critical that you be yourself and not be someone you “think you should” be. [14:40] There is so much ambiguity within the Latinx community because it’s so diverse. Dr. Rengel explains a bit more about the differences between Latinx, Latino/Latina, and Hispanic communities. [19:50] Don’t spin your wheels and fight with people over definitions. Prove your worth by achieving your goals. Lead your life on your terms and create positive change. [20:15] Dr. Rengel shares a story of the types of biases she’s faced because of her accent. [23:25] When we look to others for leadership guidance, we can often make it even harder for ourselves to just start because the standard has been set so high. [25:55] Instead of trying to tackle the whole mountain and achieve a lofty goal, sometimes it’s the little steps, the ripple effects, that make the biggest of changes in the lives of others. [27:05] Dr. Rengel shares a few leadership lessons that she’s learned from both her children and her peers. [35:05] Listener challenge: Make an effort to give a diverse set of people a seat at the table. We need all perspectives.   Quotable Quotes “We just don’t recognize what we’re not used to seeing.” “Latin/Hispanic women who have positions of leadership, we worry about whether they’re too aggressive or correctly dressing for the part. The criticism is not only coming from the men, but also from women.” “So many men don’t really know what the rules are. They don’t know how they’re supposed to act, what they’re supposed to say/not say.” “If a leader is someone who effects positive change, then make that positive change. Do that first. Work on achieving those goals that you set for yourself.” “You can’t spend your energy fighting biases that other people have.” “You look at yourself in the mirror and say, ‘How can I even begin to compete?’ But, find something you’re passionate about and just change one thing.” “There are things you cannot control. The preparation is actually the one thing you can somewhat control, so always be prepared.“ “Often, we learn a lot as mentors from the people we mentor.” “Sometimes we’re not telling what we feel; we’re telling what we think we should be saying. The advice we’re giving is not so much what we feel in our heart, but what we think in our heads.”   Resources Mentioned Sponsored by: Pass-life.com. Coupon Code: Duty. Websites: Mercadorengel.com & Alexandra on LinkedIn Ana Botín Amancio Ortega   The Leadership Podcast is Sponsored by:     Cultivate Grit. Amplify Action. Click HERE to learn more.     Free downloads of Quick Reference Guides on Delegation, Time Management, Sales, and more.  

Rev. Jim Wallis speaks with president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition and co-lead pastor of The Gathering Place, Rev. Gabriel Salguero about the Latinx vote. Gabriel discusses where the evangelical Hispanic vote is going in this election and the mindset behind the Latino/Latina voter."I think that one of the things that I want to underscore is that faith is essential to Hispanic voters. It's not an addendum, it's not a footnote."

A lot of heavy topics on this episode folks, so buckle in. We dig into the very controversial "Cuties" movie on Netflix, exploring your sexuality within the culture of being a Latino/Latina, and speaking of Latino, where the term LatinX comes from and who really uses that. All this and more on the In Living Spanglish Podcast.

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Daisy Auger-Domínguez, CEO of Auger-Domínguez Ventures, to discuss Amplifying the Latinx Experience in the Workplace. Daisy has been an executive at Moody's, Time Warner, Disney, Google and Viacom, and is the new Chief People Officer at Vice Media Group.In this episode, we talk about Daisy's path to leadership as a Dominican-Puerto Rican - a journey full of sponsors and allies that believed in her, promoted her, pushed her and supported her. We discuss the difference between Hispanic, Latino/Latina, and Latinx, and we dive deep into how to create change through amplification. Finally, we discuss what individuals can do to be great allies and create culture change within organizations.Learn more about Daisy's work at https://www.daisyauger-dominguez.com/ ⭑⭑If this is helpful, don't forget to subscribe to our podcast and like this episode!⭑⭑Additional resources for allies:➡ "Getting Over Your Fear of Talking About Diversity" by Daisy Auger-Domínguez, Harvard Business Review https://tcin.co/GetOverFearAboutDiversity ➡ Hollywood Commission to Eliminate Harassment and Advance Equality in the Workplace https://hollywoodsurvey.org/➡ Hispanic Association on Corporate Responsibility "Corporate Inclusion Index" https://www.hacr.org/hacr-cii/➡ "Vice Media Hires HR Veteran Daisy Auger-Domínguez as Head of Human Resources" by Todd Spangler https://tcin.co/DaisyViceMediaFor more about Change Catalyst, and to join us for a live recording, visit changecatalyst.co/allyshipseries.Support this series: patreon.com/changecatalystsYoutube: youtube.com/c/changecatalystTwitter: twitter.com/changecatalystsFacebook: facebook.com/changecatalystsLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/changecatalystsSupport the show (http://patreon.com/changecatalysts)

The power of a global community.For Claudia Romo Edelman, service is a global affair. Starting as a diplomat in her home country of Mexico, Claudia has served as a first correspondent and worked for the World Economic Forum for 10 years. She is currently Special Adviser to the United Nations, working with Ariana Huffington on Thrive Hispanic, and spoke with Women on the Move about changing the narrative for Hispanic communities, bringing Hispanics together to leverage their power in her foundation We Are All Human.“We’re forgetting that we all belong to the same human family. It’s all about having this conversation through content, through community of precisely that. That we are all human,” says Claudia. Uniting the Hispanic community In America, there’s a label of Hispanic or Latino/Latina, but it’s something Claudia believes Hispanics have not used to their advantage.Claudia’s passion and dedication to her community have led her to create her foundation We Are All Human.In her work with the World Economic Forum and the Hispanic Star Alliance, Claudia sees the future as one where Hispanics and Hispanic leaders are unified. “We’re going to launch a symbol for Hispanics to unify and in a year, we will see this symbol in the windows of corporate America during Hispanic Heritage Month.”Her plans include working with the 150 companies that have signed the Hispanic Promise and launching the podcast Global Goalscast to celebrate the positivity and progress of the Hispanic community.  Global action starts with youAfter experiencing a massive earthquake as a teenager in Mexico City and rescuing a young girl during the relief aid, Claudia learned to accept what her family called “her loudness” and use her voice in the service of others.In this episode, Claudia talks about the importance of coming together as a global community, learning from others through open dialogue, and promoting the power of the Hispanic community. Listen to the full episode and learn how fierce global advocate is changing perceptions one conversation at a time.        

In this bilingual conversation centered around the COVID-19 crisis, Bishop Ken Carter talks with Rini Hernandez, Director of New Church Development & Latino/Latina Ministries for The Florida Conference. Hear a message of encouragement to our Latino/Latina communities, as well as highlights of ministry taking place during this time when we cannot physically gather.   En esta conversación bilingüe centrada en la crisis de COVID-19, el Obispo Ken Carter habla con Rini Hernández, Director de Desarrollo de Nuevas Iglesias y Ministerios Latinos/Latinas para la Conferencia de Florida. Escuche un mensaje de aliento para nuestras comunidades latinos/latinas, así como lo más destacado del ministerio que se lleva a cabo durante este tiempo cuando no podemos reunirnos físicamente.

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Latinx is a gender-neutral umbrella term used as an alternative to Latina and Latino, both binary gendered identifiers. The term was first used around 2004 among queer groups, but the use has spread beyond the LGBTQ community, Complex, a New York-based magazine, reported. Latinx came into popular use around 2014 and has increased in interest since, according to Google Trends data. Gendered language uses masculine or feminine nouns, according to the British Council. In languages, like Spanish, people and objects are gendered this way. A new survey from market research agency Think Now tells a different story. "Latinx," the progressive, gender-neutral alternative to Latino/Latina, is a favorite of campus activists and ethnic studies departments. But among the broader population of Hispanic people, it's wildly unpopular: Just 2 percent of respondents to a nationwide poll chose it as their preferred term. Survey: Only 2% of Hispanics Prefer the Politically Correct Term 'Latinx' https://reason.com/2019/11/04/latinx-poll-think-now-hispanics-2020-woke/?fbclid=IwAR0OqykmJ-j27S23OzsTkboSBJ3AH5AE-pgs29KDJ7DMu6raXYXZ6vH9I5I --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/king-of-podcasts/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/king-of-podcasts/support

You, the Korner Kids, are driving the episode this week! Mail Call! Flying solo this week, James dips into the Minority Korner mail bag. James navigates learning how to run the show solo, and still manages to go into tangent city, and seems to spook himself talking about 'Us'. We get letters from around the world, and James attempts to answer questions like: what's the difference between Latino/Latina and Latinx? Who gets to tell who's stories? Naming your baby from a name that's not of your culture is that appropriation, digital blackface, and more! James manages to creep himself out throughout the episode. Then we jump over to Nnekay on Reading Glasses, as it's a Maximum Fun Crossover Event! It's like the Avengers but with books! Nnekay gives some amazing book recommendations, and how to give book recommendations to other people.  Reading Glasses Twitter: @minoritykorner Ask Minority Korner Anything: minoritykorner@gmail.com Like Us On Facebook: Minority Korner

A new book reveals an incredible slice of Cuban-American history that’s been all but forgotten until now. Lisandro Perez‘s Sugar, Cigars and Revolution: The Making of Cuban New York (NYU Press, 2018) tells the story of a vibrant Cuban émigré community in 19th-century New York that ranged from wealthy sugar plantation owners investing their fortunes in New York real estate, to working-class Cubans rolling cigars in Lower Manhattan decades before the industry took hold in Tampa. Cubans in New York had their own businesses, newspapers, and clubs, and many were involved in the struggle to liberate Cuba from colonial Spain. Among those New York-based political activists was the great hero and poet Jose Marti, who lived most of his adult life here. In fact, says Perez, a professor at John Jay College of the City University of New York in the department of Latin American and Latino/Latina studies, New York was the most important city in the U.S. for Cubans until 1960, when of course Miami became the destination for Cubans fleeing communism. This interview is part of an occasional series on the history of New York City sponsored by the Gotham Center at CUNY. Beth Harpaz is the editor for the CUNY website SUM, which showcases books and research from the CUNY community.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new book reveals an incredible slice of Cuban-American history that’s been all but forgotten until now. Lisandro Perez‘s Sugar, Cigars and Revolution: The Making of Cuban New York (NYU Press, 2018) tells the story of a vibrant Cuban émigré community in 19th-century New York that ranged from wealthy sugar plantation owners investing their fortunes in New York real estate, to working-class Cubans rolling cigars in Lower Manhattan decades before the industry took hold in Tampa. Cubans in New York had their own businesses, newspapers, and clubs, and many were involved in the struggle to liberate Cuba from colonial Spain. Among those New York-based political activists was the great hero and poet Jose Marti, who lived most of his adult life here. In fact, says Perez, a professor at John Jay College of the City University of New York in the department of Latin American and Latino/Latina studies, New York was the most important city in the U.S. for Cubans until 1960, when of course Miami became the destination for Cubans fleeing communism. This interview is part of an occasional series on the history of New York City sponsored by the Gotham Center at CUNY. Beth Harpaz is the editor for the CUNY website SUM, which showcases books and research from the CUNY community.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new book reveals an incredible slice of Cuban-American history that’s been all but forgotten until now. Lisandro Perez‘s Sugar, Cigars and Revolution: The Making of Cuban New York (NYU Press, 2018) tells the story of a vibrant Cuban émigré community in 19th-century New York that ranged from wealthy sugar plantation owners investing their fortunes in New York real estate, to working-class Cubans rolling cigars in Lower Manhattan decades before the industry took hold in Tampa. Cubans in New York had their own businesses, newspapers, and clubs, and many were involved in the struggle to liberate Cuba from colonial Spain. Among those New York-based political activists was the great hero and poet Jose Marti, who lived most of his adult life here. In fact, says Perez, a professor at John Jay College of the City University of New York in the department of Latin American and Latino/Latina studies, New York was the most important city in the U.S. for Cubans until 1960, when of course Miami became the destination for Cubans fleeing communism. This interview is part of an occasional series on the history of New York City sponsored by the Gotham Center at CUNY. Beth Harpaz is the editor for the CUNY website SUM, which showcases books and research from the CUNY community.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new book reveals an incredible slice of Cuban-American history that’s been all but forgotten until now. Lisandro Perez‘s Sugar, Cigars and Revolution: The Making of Cuban New York (NYU Press, 2018) tells the story of a vibrant Cuban émigré community in 19th-century New York that ranged from wealthy sugar plantation owners investing their fortunes in New York real estate, to working-class Cubans rolling cigars in Lower Manhattan decades before the industry took hold in Tampa. Cubans in New York had their own businesses, newspapers, and clubs, and many were involved in the struggle to liberate Cuba from colonial Spain. Among those New York-based political activists was the great hero and poet Jose Marti, who lived most of his adult life here. In fact, says Perez, a professor at John Jay College of the City University of New York in the department of Latin American and Latino/Latina studies, New York was the most important city in the U.S. for Cubans until 1960, when of course Miami became the destination for Cubans fleeing communism. This interview is part of an occasional series on the history of New York City sponsored by the Gotham Center at CUNY. Beth Harpaz is the editor for the CUNY website SUM, which showcases books and research from the CUNY community.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A new book reveals an incredible slice of Cuban-American history that’s been all but forgotten until now. Lisandro Perez‘s Sugar, Cigars and Revolution: The Making of Cuban New York (NYU Press, 2018) tells the story of a vibrant Cuban émigré community in 19th-century New York that ranged from wealthy sugar plantation owners investing their fortunes in New York real estate, to working-class Cubans rolling cigars in Lower Manhattan decades before the industry took hold in Tampa. Cubans in New York had their own businesses, newspapers, and clubs, and many were involved in the struggle to liberate Cuba from colonial Spain. Among those New York-based political activists was the great hero and poet Jose Marti, who lived most of his adult life here. In fact, says Perez, a professor at John Jay College of the City University of New York in the department of Latin American and Latino/Latina studies, New York was the most important city in the U.S. for Cubans until 1960, when of course Miami became the destination for Cubans fleeing communism. This interview is part of an occasional series on the history of New York City sponsored by the Gotham Center at CUNY. Beth Harpaz is the editor for the CUNY website SUM, which showcases books and research from the CUNY community.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brenda is the co-founder of Tamarindo Podcast, a platform dedicated to media, politics, and life. In this episode we dive into what it takes to keep a podcast successful, political issues affecting the Latino/Latina families and more... We also want to welcome Tamarindo's latest addition. Now it will be hosted by not one but two #educatedpeleoneras, Brenda and Melinna Bobadilla, an actor, singer, voice over artist, and educator. Melinna played Lidia in Macro Ventures' first digital series, GENTEFIED, produced by America Ferrera.

Welcome back to our Colleges in the Spotlight series. Last week, we focused on Hispanic Serving Institutions (HSIs)--where the campus student population must be at least 25 percent Latino, with more than half financially needy--and the good work that they have been doing to smooth the way for Latino/Latina students, many of whom are the first generation in their families to attend college. Kudos again to UC Irvine for its excellent programs and services for Latino/Latina students!   Today’s episode picks up from where last week’s left off. This episode will look at a couple of colleges that do a good job of providing services for first-generation-to-college students. And let us remind you to take a glance back at Episode 103, where we describe the truly outstanding work that Georgia State University has been doing to serve its black students, many of whom are first-generation-to-college students. We couldn’t have been more impressed. Before we turn to the colleges in the spotlight today, please remember to go to amazon.com and get a copy of our new book, How To Explore Your College Options: A Workbook for High School Students. It’s a user-friendly way to help your teenager investigate colleges of interest to him or her--perfect for current or recent high school juniors who are getting ready to apply to college next year. What a way to spend the summer: reading our book and doing the homework we assign! As we said last week, we are offering a money-back guarantee if the book doesn’t help your teenager.  1. The Context for First-Generation-to College Students  Let’s look at the context in which first-generation-to-college students go to college, thanks to a comprehensive article written by Eilene Zimmerman on June 7 in The New York Times:  First-generation students mostly come from low- to middle-income families, are disproportionally Hispanic and African-American and have little, if any, information about their higher education options. As a result, they often have misconceptions and anxiety about attending college.  College counselors can help these students deal with the complexity of the college preparation and application process. Yet few public high schools serving significant numbers of low-income and first-generation students have anywhere near enough counselors.  According to the 2015 State of College Admissions report from the National Association for College Admission Counseling, counselors at public high schools are, on average, each responsible for 436 students, and those counselors spend only 22 percent of their time on pre-college counseling. (quoted from the article)  Well, this is a refrain that our listeners have heard many times here at USACollegeChat and that our readers have read in our books. Public high school counselors--even those public high schools with dedicated college counselors--cannot begin to do what they need to do for each student, especially for first-generation-to-college students who are likely to need additional help and advice. Public high school counselors absolutely do not have the time necessary to do this work, and too many of them do not have the background knowledge and up-to-date information necessary to do this work. It is no wonder that these kids come to college with the “misconceptions and anxiety” that Ms. Zimmerman refers to in her article. And here are some more facts, according to Ms. Zimmerman’s article: About one-third of undergraduates in colleges in the United States are first-generation students, according [to] the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce and the United States Department of Education. (quoted from the article) Let us stop right there for a minute. One-third of college undergraduates are first-generation-to-college students! We think that number is actually quite extraordinary. It means that colleges are indeed bringing in new students from many backgrounds (although we know that any number of experts believe that colleges should do even more to reach out to such students). Frankly, I would have guessed that the number would have been lower. But here is the more troubling news:  Only 27 percent [of first-generation students] earn a college degree in four years, compared with 42 percent of students with parents who went to college, according to a report from the Higher Education Research Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles. Without a college degree, children of low-income parents are likely to be low-income adults, and their earning potential will only get worse over time. An analysis by the Georgetown center predicted that by 2020, 65 percent of all jobs in the United States would require postsecondary education and training. (quoted from the article) Let’s look right past the sad fact that only 42 percent of students with parents who went to college manage to earn a college degree in four years. That’s bad enough, and we have talked about unsatisfactory graduation rates several times here at USACollegeChat. We have even talked about the idea that actually graduating in four years is one of the best ways to cut college costs for every student at every type of college. The fact that only 27 percent of first-generation-to-college students manage to earn a college degree in four years is indeed concerning. And, for these kids, it likely means that some additional counseling or support of other kinds might help raise that figure to at least the lackluster 42 percent scored by other kids. 2. Spotlight on Services for First-Generation Students You should read Ms. Zimmerman’s article to get the full anecdotes about the colleges we will mention now as well as their success statistics. The stories are worth reading in their entirety. But let’s look at a few briefly: . . . Aspire [is] a program [Dennis] Di Lorenzo created two years ago [at New York University]. It was influenced by a study of 20 public schools in New York City’s lower-income neighborhoods that found graduation rates suffering and a huge variance in college-readiness programs. Aspire aims to give students information about higher education, the application process and financial aid, and prepare them academically for the transition to college. The free, two-year program serves 40 high school juniors, who attend a weeklong program each summer at N.Y.U. There are also classes and workshops throughout the school year that offer leadership training, advanced math instruction, assistance with college essay preparation, and discussions about careers, scholarships and college majors. In addition, students are connected to a group of college student mentors. (quoted from the article) Ms. Zimmerman tells the story of one senior who stayed in a room on the 22nd floor of an NYU campus dorm for the weeklong program. It was the young man’s first time in a college dorm and, more significantly, the first time sleeping away from home and the first time having a roommate from outside his family. Imagine how eye-opening that experience must have been for that young man and how much it must have helped him to see what attending a great private university--or really any university--might be like. Let’s move the spotlight slightly west and take a look at Rutgers University, New Jersey’s public flagship university. The Rutgers Future Scholars program identifies “promising” first-generation, low-income students in the seventh grade in four urban school districts--Newark, New Brunswick, Piscataway, and Camden. Students are selected for their academic performance as well as for their participation in their communities and schools. “We look for the ‘if only’ students, those who are on the cusp of doing remarkable things but need that additional support system in their life,” said program director Aramis Gutierrez. Once identified, these students “receive academic support and enrichment, and mentoring from Future Scholars participants who are now in college. They attend classes after school, on weekends and during the summer. No student is ever expelled from the program for poor grades or lagging attendance.” (quoted from the article) Rather, they are given a second chance, after appropriate intervention by faculty members. And, by the way, those Future Scholars who go on the attend Rutgers, get free tuition on top of everything else. The undocumented students in the program have their tuition paid by private donors. Special kudos to those donors! NYU has another interesting program that picks students up a bit later in their school careers. Let’s look finally at that program, called Access: First-generation students who graduate from high school but haven’t prepared for (or enrolled in) college can attend an N.Y.U. bridge program known as Access, which prepares them for college by providing academic remediation, tutoring and help with career development and job search skills. Students also earn 24 college credits that will transfer to a four-year institution. The Access program began in the fall of 2016 with eight students; half will be attending college this fall. Unlike Aspire, Access is not free, Mr. Di Lorenzo said, but costs $15,000 for the year. (Aid and scholarships are available.) (quoted from the article) While $15,000 is indeed not free, it is, nonetheless, a bargain if a student can earn 24 college credits plus get whatever remedial help he or she needs to bridge the gap into college. 3. What Next? While NYU and Rutgers deserve credit for these programs aimed at improving the odds of success for first-generation-to-college students, it is clear that many more such programs are needed. If you have a teenager at home who will be the first to attend college in your family, looking for a college with services for kids like yours is important. I am guessing that information about those services might not always be as easy to find on a college website as you might wish. So, look hard. Talk to a staff member in the admissions office of each college your teenager is considering and ask specifically about academic and personal support and other counseling services for first-generation-to-college students. Why? Because we would like your teenager to be one of the 27 percent of first-generation-to-college students to get a college degree in four years. And, by the way, we also would like that 27 percent figure to get much higher very fast. Find our books on Amazon! 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For the past two weeks in our Colleges in the Spotlight series, we have looked at colleges outside the U.S. and at the pluses (and almost no minuses) of attending college full time outside the U.S. In Episode 122, we spotlighted Richmond, the American International University in London, a unique and appealing university dually accredited in the U.S. and the U.K. In Episode 123, we stayed just a little closer to home and looked at an array of outstanding universities in Canada—specifically, the University of Toronto, the University of British Columbia, McGill University, the French-speaking University of Montreal, the University of Alberta, and McMaster University. Well, for those of you who can’t get even that far outside your geographic comfort zone, let us bring you back to the U.S. In this episode, we are going to focus on the University of California, Irvine (UC Irvine), located in coastal southern California in Orange County, south of Los Angeles and north of San Diego. You would be hard pressed to find a nicer spot. However, let us be the first to say that, for many of you, UC Irvine might be a lot farther away from home than many a university in Canada is. So, maybe it’s time to re-think your own definition of geographic comfort zone! This episode also goes beyond UC Irvine to talk about Hispanic Serving Institutions (HSIs) generally--a subject that we have addressed here at USACollegeChat several times in the past two years. We are thinking that, for some of you, HSIs might turn out to be a more significant subject than you originally might have thought. And, let us remind you once again, as summer vacation arrives, that you should go to amazon.com and get a copy of our new book, How To Explore Your College Options: A Workbook for High School Students. We promise that it will help your teenager ask and answer important questions about colleges of interest to him or her. We are offering, of course, a money-back guarantee if the book doesn’t help your teenager!  1. The Facts About UC Irvine Let us start by telling you a bit about UC Irvine (UCI), one of the University of California public campuses in the most prestigious of the three California state systems of higher education. Here are some of the awards and rankings of note, taken from UCI’s website:  UCI is ranked ninth among the nation’s best public universities and 39th among all national public and private universities, according to the annual S. News & World Report ranking of undergraduate programs. The New York Times ranked UCI first among U.S. universities in doing the most for low-income students in 2017 and 2015 (according to its College Access Index). The ranking is based on a variety of factors, including the percentage of students receiving Pell Grants (which typically go to families earning less than $70,000 a year); the graduation rate of those students; and the net cost, after financial aid, that a college charges low- and middle-income students. UCI is one of just 62 U.S. and Canadian universities elected to the respected Association of American Universities. Sierra, the magazine of the well-known environmentally active Sierra Club, recognized UCI for its innovative sustainable practices by ranking it third on its “Coolest Schools” list--that is, the list of “colleges working hardest to protect the planet.” And perhaps most important: Money magazine named UCI as the 1 university for beach lovers. Here is what Money magazine wrote: Irvine sometimes gets a bad rap for lacking a “college town” feel. But if you’d rather spend your time on the sand than on Main Street, it’s a tough spot to beat. There's surfing at Huntington Beach, the boardwalk and pier at Newport Beach, peace and quiet at Corona del Mar, and the glamor of Laguna Beach. All of those locales, with iconic California beach vistas, are within 20 minutes of campus, and upperclassmen often live off campus, just a couple-minute walk to the sand. (quoted from the website) Here are some fast facts about UCI, which was founded in 1965: It enrolls about 33,500 students, about 27,500 of which are undergraduates. It received almost 78,000 applicants for its 2016 freshman class; about 6,500 enrolled. Its retention rate from freshman to sophomore year is 93 percent. Its four-year graduation rate is 70 percent; its six-year graduation rate is 88 percent. California residents pay just about $15,000 a year in tuition and fees, while out-of-staters pay about $42,000 a year. So, it’s not cheap for nonresidents, but it’s not as expensive as many good private universities. It offers 87 undergraduate degree programs, 59 master’s degree programs, and 47 doctoral programs, plus a medical degree and a law degree. It boasts 28 national titles in nine sports. And let me say this: If your teenager takes the virtual tour online at UCI’s website, he or she will want to go there. You might want to go there as well. 2. UC Irvine Designated an HSI But none of the facts and figures we have just presented is the reason we are looking at UCI in today’s episode. Rather, it is because of an excellent article written last week by Teresa Watanabe in the Los Angeles Times, entitled “UC Irvine’s rare distinction: It’s an elite university that’s a haven for Latinos.” Ms. Watanabe sets the scene this way, amid a variety of personal student anecdotes that are well worth reading: UC Irvine may seem an unlikely haven for Latino students. The campus is located in what used to be a largely white Republican community . . . . But the Irvine campus is now the most popular UC choice for Latino [freshman] applicants, topping longtime leader UCLA for the first time last fall. And last month the campus won federal recognition for serving Latinos--a still-rare distinction among elite research universities. In all, 492 campuses in 19 states and Puerto Rico have been designated Hispanic Serving Institutions, which allows them to apply for about $100 million annually in federal research grants. To qualify, the campus student population must be 25% Latino, with more than half financially needy. In California, nearly all Cal State campuses, at least half of California Community Colleges, and half of UC campuses have received the recognition. But UC Irvine and UC Santa Barbara are the only HSI campuses among the 62 members of the Assn. of American Universities--an elite network of public and private research universities that includes the Ivy League [and others] . . . . (quoted from the article) In our new book for high school students, How To Explore Your College Options, we talk about HSIs (as we did in our first book and in several USACollegeChat episodes). We wrote this in the chapter on researching a college’s history and mission:  HSIs have been designated as such in just the past 50 years. By definition, HSIs have a student enrollment that is at least 25 percent Hispanic. For example, The University of New Mexico in Albuquerque, a federally designated HSI, was one of the first minority-majority universities, with a student body that was approximately 45 percent Hispanic and 35 percent Anglo. [HSIs] are located in states across the U.S. from California to Massachusetts and from Washington to Florida. Some HSIs are large public universities, some are large public community colleges, and some are small private liberal arts colleges. Many HSIs receive federal funds to support programs and scholarships that are designed to help low-income Hispanic students succeed in college. Although HSIs do not have the same kind of historical traditions that HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) have--perhaps because they were not originally founded with a mission to serve Hispanic students--they do offer a supportive environment, especially for first-generation-to-college Hispanic students. (quoted from the book) It is this last point about the supportive environment that makes UCI so appealing, according to what we can learn from Ms. Watanabe’s article.  3. UC Irvine’s Supportive Environment Here is what UCI’s leadership had to say, as quoted from the article: UC Irvine Chancellor Howard Gillman said the campus has pushed to diversify its campus as part of its public mission and urged other top institutions to do the same. “We think it’s important to show that great higher education can be there for all of the people,” he said. “The demographics of the state are changing, and great institutions that were there for generations past should also be there for generations of the future.”  For the first time ever, more than half of UC Irvine’s graduating class this year are first-generation college students. UC Irvine, Gillman said, is not only admitting more Latino students but also helping them succeed. Eight of 10 freshmen who entered in 2010-11 graduated within six years, about equal to whites and blacks and just below Asians. Graduation rates for transfer students are even higher. (quoted from the article) Well, all that is impressive. But here is how UCI got there, according to the article: The campus began laying the groundwork in 1983, when it created the Santa Ana Partnership with local schools, Santa Ana College and Cal State Fullerton to improve college-going rates in the area. . . . [The Center for Educational Partnerships, with its executive director Stephanie Reyes-Tuccio] serves 12,000 largely low-income students a year, three-fourths of them Latino, with programs to prepare them for college and help them succeed. It supports those interested in science, technology, engineering and math and helped develop a college-going plan for every high school student in the Santa Ana Unified School District. Affiliated faculty also conduct research and offer teacher training. About 85% of high school students who work with the center complete the college prep coursework required for UC and Cal State, compared with the statewide average of 43% . . . . (quoted from the article) Well, all that is impressive, too. And here’s something we haven’t heard about elsewhere: “UC Irvine’s performance reviews reward faculty who contribute to ‘inclusive excellence.’ The campus has created a database to connect faculty to opportunities to advance diversity and equity and has set a goal for at least half of them to be involved by 2020–21.” (quoted from the article) That clearly shows a university administration that is walking the walk and not just talking the talk. Latino/Latina students quoted by Ms. Watanabe in the article describe the support that they have found at UCI, including supportive staff (like counselors who serve as mentors), engaged faculty (who offer many research opportunities to students), 25-plus Latino student organizations, and a Cross-Cultural Center (which supports the personal, academic, social, and cultural needs of students and is the first multicultural center in the University of California system). One particular student told Ms. Watanabe about discovering her “family” at “the Student Outreach and Retention Center, where she was able to find friends, leadership opportunities and food--peanut butter and jelly sandwiches that eased hunger pains since she could not afford a campus meal plan. She was hired by the center to develop mentorship programs and trained peer advisers to help students through such hardships as homesickness, breakups and academic struggles.” (quoted from the article) So, our hats are off to UCI—and, of course, to other HSIs, which are working to serve previously underserved Hispanic students, who might need a bit of extra attention in order to make the leap into higher education as a first-generation-to-college student. If you have such a student in your home, there is no downside to taking a serious look at colleges that are HSIs. You might not find one to your liking, of course; but, if you do, it could be a game changer. Find our books on Amazon! 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