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45 Graus
#175 Miguel Herdade - Melhor ensino, melhores políticas públicas

45 Graus

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2024 113:34


Miguel Herdade trabalha em inovação social, gestão de organizações sem fins lucrativos, e implementação de políticas públicas, com especial interesse por desigualdades, educação e integração social. Radicado em Londres há vários anos, fundou e dirigiu organizações sem fins lucrativos em Portugal e no Reino Unido. No RU, foi Director Associado no Ambition Institute e “governador” de uma escola primária. Em Portugal, foi co-fundador e Director na Orquestra Sem Fronteiras, co-fundador e Diretor Executivo da Academia do Johnson e foi assistente na Nova SBE. É membro (independente) do Grupo de Reflexão Sobre o Futuro de Portugal junto do Presidente da República e cronista na revista SÁBADO. -> Apoie este podcast e faça parte da comunidade de mecenas do 45 Graus em: 45grauspodcast.com -> Deixe o seu email aqui para ser informado(a) do próximo Curso de Pensamento Crítico [a anunciar em breve]. _______________ Índice: (0:00) Introdução (3:58) Retrato dos portugueses a nível de escolaridade. | Expulsão dos Jesuítas pelo Marquês de Pombal. (20:17) A proeza de Portugal ter conseguido aumentar, ao mesmo tempo, a quantidade e qualidade do ensino.  (28:03) Evolução dos rankings PISA: problema da falta de professores e impacto da Pandemia (34:28) Quando Portugal é capaz de ter boas políticas públicas — e como aprender com isso | Somos o país do Mundo em que menos crianças passam fome na escola (dados: OECD, PISA 2022 Database, Tables I.B1.4.46) e dos que têm refeições com maior qualidade nutricional (fonte: O'Connell, R. and Brannen, J. 2021. Families and Food in Hard Times: European comparative research. London: UCL) (41:25) Quem são os heróis não celebrados desta revolução no ensino? | Números do ensino profissional (45:48) O lado bom dos exames -- e como exigência é boa para as crianças mais pobres | Cultura de desrespeito pelos dados entre os decisores políticos  (53:43) O lado mau dos exames | cognitive load theory | Lei de Goodhart (1:04:51) A importância subvalorizada do ensino Pré-escolar | Curva de Heckman | Impacto da pobreza equivalente a QI | Polémica nos Açores: filhos de desempregados discriminados no acesso às creches gratuitas | Dados OCDE. em Portugal, cash benefits vão sobretudo para quem ganha mais (tabela 6.12) | Porque o Reino Unido decidiu aumentar propinas e criar bolsas generosas (1:16:19) Porque é que as mães são mais importantes do que os pais para os resultados escolares dos filhos? | Estudo do convidado sobre a pandemia (em co-autoria) (1:17:42) O problema do crescente fosso nas notas entre rapazes e raparigas | John Locke e a educação das raparigas | Problemas identitários | Desigualdade | Livro: The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better, de Richard G. Wilkinson e Kate Pickett (1:28:08) Ensino pre-escolar | Ras Chetty - estudo sobre amigos no Facebook (1:38:22) Como dar mais condições aos professores? Livros recomendados: Hillbilly Elegy, de J.D. Vance | Regresso a Reims, de Didier Eribon | Trilogia de Copenhaga, de Tove Ditlevsen | Submissão, de Michel Houellebecq ______________ Esta conversa foi editada por: Hugo Oliveira  

Capitalism Hits Home
The Spirit Level of the United States

Capitalism Hits Home

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2024 28:52


In 2009 Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett wrote their best-selling book,  "The Spirit Level" which showed how economic inequality spawned extensive social suffering.  Recently those authors revisited the United States 15 years later, and every aspect of the social problems referenced in their work has increased with the increase of inequality. They elide capitalism's leading role in delivering misery. I do not evade it.   Learn more about CHH:  We make it a point to provide the show free of ads. Your contributions help keep this content free and accessible to all. If you would like to simply donate one time, you can do so by visiting us at http://www.democracyatwork.info/donate. Become a monthly donor: http://www.patreon.com/democracyatwork

Economic Update with Richard D. Wolff
Worsening Economic Inequality Yields Worsening Social Conditions

Economic Update with Richard D. Wolff

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2024 29:08


On this week's Economic Update, Professor Richard Wolff discusses Kate Pickett's and Richard Wilkinson's best-selling study in the book "The Spirit Level" (2009), showing how economic inequality correlates with most of the major social problems of our time.  We will juxtapose their latest paper "The Spirit Level at 15: The Enduring Impact of Inequality" Which details how economic inequality has only gotten worse since the past fifteen years, despite government laws and programs aimed to "reduce" inequality.  Wilkinson and Pickett show how inequality leads to severe social ills, divisions, and disintegration. What we need is to face that it is capitalism that generates the inequality that generates the hostilities and social tensions intruding upon and damaging our lives." Important reading "The Spirit Level at 15: The Enduring Impact of Inequality: https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/215026/1/The_Spirit_Level_at_15_2024_FINAL.pdf    The d@w Team Economic Update with Richard D. Wolff is a DemocracyatWork.info Inc. production. We make it a point to provide the show free of ads and rely on viewer support to continue doing so. You can support our work by joining our Patreon community: https://www.patreon.com/democracyatwork Or you can go to our website: https://www.democracyatwork.info/donate   Every donation counts and helps us provide a larger audience with the information they need to better understand the events around the world they can't get anywhere else. We want to thank our devoted community of supporters who help make this show and others we produce possible each week. We kindly ask you to also support the work we do by encouraging others to subscribe to our YouTube channel and website: www.democracyatwork.info

Reboot Republic Podcast
365. Inequality: What Can We Do with Profs Kate Pickett & Richard Wilkinson

Reboot Republic Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2024 45:09


Please join us at patreon.com/tortoiseshack In this Reboot Republic, Rory chats with Professors Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson, authors of several ground breaking and massively influential research on inequality including the Spirit Level (2009), the Inner Level (2015), and Act Now ( 2024, multi-author). We discuss how and why more unequal societies do worse in terms of trust, health, wellbeing, and environment, and what can be done to achieve more equal societies. A must-listen for anyone interested in inequality. Gaza Appeal:https://www.patreon.com/posts/look-what-you-us-109090405

The John Batchelor Show
1/2: #IGini coefficient: Extreme inequality between the 1% of the superrich and the 99% of the rest drives cultural self-destruction such as addiction, homelessness and broad antisocial conduct. Richard Wilkinson, Kate Pickett, Nature Magazine.

The John Batchelor Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2024 12:45


1/2: #IGini coefficient: Extreme inequality between the 1% of the superrich and the 99% of the rest drives cultural self-destruction such as addiction, homelessness and broad antisocial conduct. Richard Wilkinson, Kate Pickett, Nature Magazine. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00723-3 1922 Burma

The John Batchelor Show
2/2: #IGini coefficient: Extreme inequality between the 1% of the super rich and the 99% of the rest drives cultural self-destruction such as addiction, homelessness and broad antisocial conduct. Richard Wilkinson, Kate Pickett, Nature Magazine.

The John Batchelor Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 28, 2024 6:55


2/2: #IGini coefficient: Extreme inequality between the 1% of the super rich and the 99% of the rest drives cultural self-destruction such as addiction, homelessness and broad antisocial conduct. Richard Wilkinson, Kate Pickett, Nature Magazine. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00723-3 1910 Wall Street broker Charles Gates (1876-1913)

Behaviour Change Marketing Bootcamp
E65: Remember Your Why - Learning from the master of behaviour change - Stuart King

Behaviour Change Marketing Bootcamp

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2024 34:43


In today's episode we are joined by Stuart King. Stuart founded BeeZee Bodies 17 years ago whilst working in public health. A hugely successful service it supports people all over England. At Public Health England he was senior scientist in the obesity and healthy weight team and he still works closely with Public Health producing and hosting The Real World Behavioural Science podcast with the Public Health & Behavioural Science Network. We look deeper into an ethnographic video Stuart developed on behalf of the London Borough of Hounslow. The video walks you through a day in the life of Veena a mum so you can see the influencers and patterns that are we are being exposed to every day. Shining a spotlight on the importance of the wider determinants of health. Three key aha moments On a short walk Veena was exposed to fast food advertising 27 times. This is important because when running a healthy weight messaging you need to remember what else people are seeing. Dogs motivate because they are external triggers - they will nudge you into movement. Do you know what other external triggers your audience may have that you can draw attention to? Does is the environment your audience is exposed to bombard them with negative triggers? Such as the 'food' options in local shops and are these triggers the norm? If so recognise and celebrate the resilience it takes to overcome them. Links Veena - A Day in the Life - Real World of Behavioural Science podcast Books The Spirit Level by Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson Loonshots by Safi Bahcall Rebel Ideas by Matthew Syed Japanese Art Of Kaizan Linchpin by Seth Godin

Common Good Podcast
john a. powell: Future of Spirituality & Belonging (part 2)

Common Good Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2024 29:24 Transcription Available


The Common Good podcast is a conversation about the significance of place, eliminating economic isolation and the structure of belonging.  In this episode, Rabbi Miriam Terlinchamp and Reverend Ben McBride speak with john a. powell. Greg Jarrell also jumps in to ask a couple questions.john a. powell is an internationally recognized expert in the areas of civil rights, civil liberties, structural racialization, racial identity, fair housing, poverty, and democracy. He is also the founding director of the Othering & Belonging Institute, a UC Berkeley research institute that brings together scholars, community advocates, communicators, and policymakers to identify and eliminate the barriers to an inclusive, just, and sustainable society and to create transformative change toward a more equitable world. The unique spelling of his name is john's way of signifying that we humans are part of the universe, not over it.Excerpts and Works Referenced in the Conversation:The Nature of Prejudice by Gordon W. AllportContact HypothesisA Poem in Three Parts: Meet Me ThereThe History of the Alinsky Organizing Model and Its Practice within Community and Organized LaborBowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community by Robert PutnamTargeted UniversalismThe Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better by by Kate Pickett and Richard WilkinsonAlso, check out our previous episode with Ben about his new book, Troubling the Water: The Urgent Work of Radical Belonging. You can also pre-order Greg's new book, Our Trespasses: White Churches and the Taking of American Neighborhoods.This episode was produced by Joey Taylor and the music is from Jeff Gorman. You can find more information about the Common Good Collective here. Common Good Podcast is a production of Bespoken Live & Common Change - Eliminating Personal Economic Isolation. 

de Erno Hannink Show | Betere Beslissingen, Beter Bedrijf
The Spirit Level #boekencast afl 83

de Erno Hannink Show | Betere Beslissingen, Beter Bedrijf

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2023 43:10


Ondertitel: Why greater Equality Makes Society Stronger, een van de boeken van Richard Wilkinson en Kate Pickett. Een interessant boek dat voor mij een bevestiging was dat ik aan de juiste missie werk, sociale en ecologische ongelijkheid terugdringen. Daarnaast geeft het boek een idee hoe ik hiermee verder kan, zeker richting ondernemers. Wat ik niet had gezien is de grote impact van sociale ongelijkheid en hoeveel problemen zouden oplossen als we dit verbeteren. Het boek bestaat uit 3 delen: Material success, social failure The cost of inequality A better Society Material success, social failure The End of an era Met grafieken en onderzoeken laten ze zien dat boven een bepaald punt het welzijn niet verder groeit als de welvaart wel verder groeit. Voor het eerst in de geschiedenis zijn de armen dikker dan de rijken. Poverty or inequality? Het grootste probleem is niet zo zeer het verschil in rijkdom tussen de landen, maar veel meer het verschil in een land. Wil je de sociale omgeving en de kwaliteit van leven voor iedereen verbeteren, dan moet je de ongelijkheid verminderen. How inequality gets under the skin angst, stress en ongeluk neemt toe in de rijke landen. De overgang van een hechte gemeenschap naar een massa maatschappij.  The cost of inequality Community life and social relations Mental health and drug use Physical health and life expectancy Obesity: wider income gaps, wider waists Educational performance Teenage births: recycling deprivation Violance: gaining respect Imprisonment and punishment Social mobility: unequal opportunities A better Society Dysfunctional societies Our social inheritance Equality and sustainability Een meer gelijke gemeenschap helpt ons in samenwerken aan de grote transities die op ons afkomen. Building the future Het interessante hoofdstuk over hoe we een betere toekomst bouwen. Het belangrijks is dat we medewerkers eigenaar maken van het bedrijf en medezeggenschap geven. Door deze contructie zal er veel minder ongelijkheid in inkomen ontstaan, bij de verkopo van het bedrijf profiteer iedereen. Interessant inzicht is dat wanneer je een bedrijf tegenwoordig verkopt het vooral gaat over de mensen die er werken. Je handelt dus in mensen. Vanaf p 252 vind je alternatieven voor groote corporaties die de problemen veroorzaken. Ideen om te laten zien dat het mogeljik is. Op p 260 zes voordelen van meer gelijke gemeenschap en medewerkers eigenaarschap. Het is een interessant boek, en gaf me nieuwe inzichten en connecties met ongelijkheid die ik nog niet kende. Het boek leest niet makkelijk weg, maar heeft veel verwijzingen voor verdieping. Kijk vooral de TED talk van Wilkinson voor een eerste indruk. Opvallende lessen uit het boek voor mij: Voor het eerst in de geschiedenis zijn de armen dikker dan de rijken. Het grootste probleem zijn de verschillen in rijkdom binnen een land. Wil je de sociale omgeving en de kwaliteit van iedereen verbeteren, dan moet je de ongelijkheid verminderen. Hoe groter de ongelijkheid is, hoe meer de mensen de vraag stellen 'ligt het aan mij, dat ik niet succesvol ben?' In landen waar meer gelijkheid is daar hebben mensen meer het gevoel dat ze anderen kunnen vertrouwen. Portugal lijkt een negatieve uitschieter in vergelijking met Spanje en Italië. We kunnen aan allerlei symptomen werken, zoals gratis ontbijt op school, maar het is beter voor iedereen om te werken aan de oorzaak en dat is ongelijkheid terugdringen. Dit is goed voor arm én rijk. Als je vandaag als eigenaar je bedrijf verkoopt, dan verkoop je vooral de mensen die er werken, een soort moderne slavenhandel. We moeten niet naar meer corporates, maar naar meer coöperaties, waar medewerkers (mede)eigenaar zijn, voor meer gelijkheid. Laten we meer het Scandinavische model nastreven, in plaats van het Amerikaanse model. Bronnen die we genoemd hebben Robert B.

SystemShift
Kate Pickett & Richard Wilkinson: Wellbeing Over Growth

SystemShift

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2023 63:25


In our season finale, we're diving deep into the myths surrounding neoliberalism with leading economists Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson - two of the brightest minds in the field. Brace yourself for a compelling discussion on how inequality takes a toll on physical health, relationships, and emotions. Chronic stress, accelerated ageing, increased rates of bullying and homicide, and even lower life expectancy all intertwine with the disparity. Pickett and Wilkinson will also look at circular and regenerative economic models, shifting away from relentless growth-focused mindsets. From promoting well-being and experimenting with basic income pilots to envisioning a four-day working week, we'll explore groundbreaking research that suggests sustainable economies can provide a decent standard of living for all. Kate Pickett is a Professor of Epidemiology in the Department of Health Sciences at the University of York, while Richard Wilkinson is Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology at the University of Nottingham Medical School, Honorary Professor at UCL, and a Visiting Professor at the University of York. Together they wrote The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better - a book that examines the effects of the inequality that resulted from free markets and limited government intervention in the economy.This episode of SystemShift comes from Greenpeace Nordic and is hosted by Greenpeace Sweden campaigner, Carl Schlyter, and produced by Alexia Fridén, with additional support from Ariadna Rodrigo, Juliana Costa, Christian Aslund and Attila Kulcsár. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Traditional Medicine Podcast with Caara Lovick
EP 17: Part 2 - What Mental Health Experts Need to Know Before Offering Plant Medicine Integration Services and Preparation Support for Clients Seeking Traditional Indigenous Medicines

Traditional Medicine Podcast with Caara Lovick

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2023 21:07


In this episode, we continue our conversation with mental health experts offering integration (or preparation) services to clients who have opted to incorporate traditional indigenous healing services into their healing journey. We discuss how important it is for mental health and traditional indigenous healing disciplines to work together, especially when clients decide to incorporate traditional indigenous healing services into their healing journey, as they complement each other significantly throughout the client's healing process. In addition, by allowing traditional indigenous healers to monitor the energetics of the client before and after their traditional indigenous healing services, we provide the client with continuity in the support being offered and ensure the best possible results.  www.traditionalmedicinemiami.comhttps://www.instagram.com/traditionalmedicinemiami

Traditional Medicine Podcast with Caara Lovick
EP 16: Part 1 - What Mental Health Experts Need to Know Before Offering Plant Medicine Integration Services and Preparation Support for Clients Seeking Traditional Indigenous Medicines

Traditional Medicine Podcast with Caara Lovick

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2023 26:53


In this episode, we identify the common challenges mental health experts and traditional indigenous healers face on their journey to helping people. In our challenges, we find common ground and an opportunity to bridge both disciplines. In bridging the two disciplines successfully, we can provide more continuity in the support we offer clients seeking traditional indigenous medicines. Mental health experts must avoid pitfalls when finding ways to complement traditional indigenous healers and their work. True collaboration is imminent and necessary to provide clients with the best services and support.www.traditionalmedicinemiami.comhttps://www.instagram.com/traditionalmedicinemiami

What I Believe
Kate Pickett

What I Believe

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2022 36:43


In this episode, Andrew speaks to epidemiologist Professor Kate Pickett about what she believes, from fairness as a moral value to the benefits to all of reducing inequality, hopefulness in the cause of social change, and taking the long view.

Politics Theory Other
Progressive Economy Forum - How To End The Cost Of Living Crisis

Politics Theory Other

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2022 57:51


Last month the Progressive Economics 2022 conference, a one-day festival of transformative economic thinking, took place at the University of Greenwich. In a world battered by crises, facing environmental collapse, PEF brought together leading thinkers from across the progressive movement to present the arguments and solutions we need to build a radically better economy. Speakers included Gargi Bhattacharryya, Aaron Benanav, Francesca Bria, James Meadway, Kate Pickett, John Mcdonnell MP, and David Edgerton amongst many others. PTO was pleased to be an official media partner of the event and in the coming weeks we'll be posting some of the excellent panel discussions that took place at the event. First up, is a session on the Cost of Living Crisis. In the panel discussion James Meadway, Susan Newman, and Rupert Russell discuss the causes of price rises, the disastrous effects of conventional policy responses, and what the real solutions are to high inflation.

The We Society
S1 Ep4: Kate Pickett: We Are Connected To Each Other In Important Ways

The We Society

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2022 41:17


Professor Kate Pickett, author of The Spirit Level and Professor of Epidemiology at the University of York, talks to Will Hutton about how unequal societies harms us all, her latest research projects in Bradford and how the UK could truly 'level' up. 

In Over My Head
The Just Transition Part 5: All Things Being Equal

In Over My Head

Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2022 27:23


Michael talks with renowned social epidemiologist Richard Wilkinson all about how inequality affects society. Richard highlights how our spending habits and debt correlate with inequality. They cover status anxiety, the limit of economic growth and wellbeing, and the importance of our social relationships. He makes the connection to inequality and environmental involvement, and our ability to address the climate crisis. They touch on lessons from the Second World War and the health implications of inequality. Lastly, he suggests solutions to solve inequality, and how you can get involved.

Verstehen, fühlen, glücklich sein - der Achtsamkeitspodcast
96 | Vertrauen - Wie das Gefühl der Sicherheit entsteht und wie wir es erhalten

Verstehen, fühlen, glücklich sein - der Achtsamkeitspodcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2022 35:49


Vertrauen ist ein wesentlicher Bestandteil unseres Lebens. Wir Vertrauen in uns selbst, in andere Personen und in Institutionen. Können wir Vertrauen üben und darin besser werden? Ist es besser misstrauisch statt vertrauensvoll durch das Leben zu gehen? Und können wir gebrochenes Vertrauen wieder herstellen? In dieser Podcast-Folge beantworten Boris und Sinja genau diese Fragen und beleuchten die biologischen und psychologischen Hintergründe unserer Fähigkeit zu vertrauen. Studien: Kosfeld, M., Heinrichs, M., Zak, P. J., Fischbacher, U., & Fehr, E. (2005). Oxytocin increases trust in humans. Nature, 435(7042), 673-676. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature03701Simmons, B. L., Gooty, J., Nelson, D. L., & Little, L. M. (2009). Secure attachment: Implications for hope, trust, burnout, and performance. Journal of Organizational Behavior: The International Journal of Industrial, Occupational and Organizational Psychology and Behavior, 30(2), 233-247. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/job.585Lyndsay Grant & Glen O'Hara (2010) The Spirit Level by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, Geography, 95:3, 149-153. https://www.geography.org.uk/download/GEOGRAPHY_vol95_part3_GRANT-O'HARA.pdf Axelrod, R., & Hamilton, W. D. (1981). The evolution of cooperation. Science, 211(4489), 1390-1396. http://math.uchicago.edu/~shmuel/Modeling/Axelrod%20and%20Hamilton.pdfBöckler, A., Herrmann, L., Trautwein, F. M., Holmes, T., & Singer, T. (2017). Know thy selves: Learning to understand oneself increases the ability to understand others. Journal of Cognitive Enhancement, 1(2), 197-209. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317832980_Know_Thy_Selves_Learning_to_Understand_Oneself_Increases_the_Ability_to_Understand_Others Trautwein, F. M., Kanske, P., Böckler, A., & Singer, T. (2020). Differential benefits of mental training types for attention, compassion, and theory of mind. Cognition, 194, 104039. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010027719302124Unsere allgemeinen Datenschutzrichtlinien finden Sie unter https://art19.com/privacy. Die Datenschutzrichtlinien für Kalifornien sind unter https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info abrufbar.

Brighter Thinking Pod
Ep 26: Thrive: The Purpose of Schools in a Changing World

Brighter Thinking Pod

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2022 82:10


What are the objectives of education and how best can we prepare students for the future?   Our host for this episode is Paul Ellis, Head of Teaching and Learning at Cambridge Assessment International Education. He is joined by the co-authors of Thrive, a book that looks at the purpose of schools in a changing world. Valerie Hannon is Co-founder of the Innovation Unit and the Global Education Leaders Partnership, and Consultant Advisor to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). Dr Amelia Peterson is part of the founding faculty of the London Interdisciplinary School and holder of a PhD in Education from Harvard University.   We also hear from four school leaders who feature in the book. Andy Moor, CEO of Holy Family Catholic Multi Academy Trust. Brooke Moore, District Principal of Enquiry and Innovation at Delta School District. Kim Ondrik, Principal of Mill Bay Nature School. And Rae Snape, Head Teacher of Milton Road Primary School.     Show notes: Centre for Evaluation and Monitoring – baseline assessments Thrive: The Purpose of Schools in a Changing World Tom Sherrington, The Learning Rainforest Encyclical letter, Ludato si', Pope Francis Students Organising for Sustainability (SOS) The Green School, Bali The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better, Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson Everyone's invited Cambridge University Press Twitter Cambridge University Press Instagram Email us at educationmarketing@cambridge.org

Let's Talk: Mental Health
S3 E4: Mental Health in an unequal world

Let's Talk: Mental Health

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2021 37:54


This is the Mental Health Foundation podcast. A series which brings to you a range of mental health topics, real life stories, expert comments, and mental health tips. Jennie Walker is your host. She has her own lived experience of mental health problems and with this podcast she and the Mental Health Foundation want to raise awareness, get people talking and provide support and hope.**Remember to rate, like, review and subscribe**On this episode, we explore the 2021 World Mental Health Day theme, Mental Health in an Unequal World.Tyra in London tells us what inequality means to her as a young person, how she and her peers are coping with the lifting of lockdown, and how she thinks society could better support young people overall. 31-year-old Freya in Edinburgh lives with ADHD and shares her experiences around access to mental health services, and of growing up as the only person of colour at her school and how that impacted her mental health. Lastly, we hear from Julie Cameron, who is Associate Director for the Mental Health Foundation in Scotland - Julie shares her expertise on the wider picture of equality, and talks about how we can all contribute towards a fairer society. Enjoy the show!Who's on the show today?Jennie Walker: Host and Producer, Communications and Marketing Officer at the FoundationJennie's Bio: https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/people/jennie-walkerTyra: Guest, young person based in LondonFreya: Guest, 31-year-old from Edinburgh who lives with ADHDJulie Cameron: Associate Director for the Mental Health Foundation in Scotland.Julie's Bio: https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/about-us/people/julie-cameronPodcast episode links:Get into Summer project https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/projects/get-summer-2021 Study - Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better - by Wilkinson and Pickett https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257664917_Richard_Wilkinson_and_Kate_Pickett_2009_The_Spirit_Level_Why_More_Equal_Societies_Almost_Always_Do_Better_Allen_Lane_LondonFind out more about the Mental Health Foundation:Website: mentalhealth.org.ukInstagram: instagram.com/mentalhealthfoundationFacebook: facebook.com/mentalhealthfoundationTwitter: twitter.com/mentalhealthGet in touch with us: online@mentalhealth.org.uk**Remember to rate, like, review and subscribe**Helplines:If you are feeling like ending your life, please call 999 or go to A&E and ask for the contact of the nearest crisis resolution team. These are teams of mental health care professionals who work with people in severe distress.If you need someone to talk to then Samaritans are available on 116 123 (UK) for free, 24/7. They are there to talk to and listen.

Mental Health Foundation podcast
Mental Health in an unequal world

Mental Health Foundation podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2021 37:54


This is the Mental Health Foundation podcast. A series which brings to you a range of mental health topics, real life stories, expert comments, and mental health tips. Jennie Walker is your producer and host. She has her own lived experience of mental health problems and with this podcast she and the Mental Health Foundation want to raise awareness, get people talking and provide support and hope. **Remember to rate, like, review and subscribe** On this episode, we explore the 2021 World Mental Health Day theme, Mental Health in an Unequal World. Tyra in London tells us what inequality means to her as a young person, how she and her peers are coping with the lifting of lockdown, and how she thinks society could better support young people overall. 31-year-old Freya in Edinburgh lives with ADHD and shares her experiences around access to mental health services, and of growing up as the only person of colour at her school and how that impacted her mental health. Lastly, we hear from Julie Cameron, who is Associate Director for the Mental Health Foundation in Scotland - Julie shares her expertise on the wider picture of equality, and talks about how we can all contribute towards a fairer society. Enjoy the show! Who's on the show today? Jennie Walker: Host and Producer, Communications and Marketing Officer at the Foundation Jennie's Bio: https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/people/jennie-walker Tyra: Guest, young person based in London Freya: Guest, 31-year-old from Edinburgh who lives with ADHD Julie Cameron: Associate Director for the Mental Health Foundation in Scotland. Julie's Bio: https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/about-us/people/julie-cameron Podcast episode links: 27:00 Get into Summer project https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/projects/get-summer-2021 30:00 Study - Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better - by Wilkinson and Pickett https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257664917_Richard_Wilkinson_and_Kate_Pickett_2009_The_Spirit_Level_Why_More_Equal_Societies_Almost_Always_Do_Better_Allen_Lane_London Find out more about the Mental Health Foundation: Website: mentalhealth.org.uk Instagram: instagram.com/mentalhealthfoundation Facebook: facebook.com/mentalhealthfoundation Twitter: twitter.com/mentalhealth Get in touch with us: online@mentalhealth.org.uk Our podcast is also available on iTunes: podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/ment…ast/id665005881 **Remember to rate, like, review and subscribe** Helplines If you are feeling like ending your life, please call 999 or go to A&E and ask for the contact of the nearest crisis resolution team. These are teams of mental health care professionals who work with people in severe distress. If you need someone to talk to then Samaritans are available on 116 123 (UK) for free, 24/7. They are there to talk to, listen and they won't judge or tell you what to do. C.A.L.M.: National helpline for men to talk about any troubles they are feeling. Call 0800 58 58 58. If you're experiencing a personal crisis, are unable to cope and need support. Text Shout to 85258.

The Know Show Podcast
Why Equality is Better for Everyone - Prof. Richard Wilkinson

The Know Show Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2021 37:47


https://www.patreon.com/user?u=31723331   Prof. Richard Wilkinson is a Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology at the University of Nottingham Medical School, Honorary Professor at University College London and Visiting Professor at the University of York. He also co-founded The Equality Trust, which works to reduce economic and social inequality through analysing and disseminating the latest research, promoting robust evidence-based arguments and supporting a dynamic network of campaign groups across the country. In this episode of The Know Show Podcast, Prof. Richard Wilkinson discusses his career that spans over 40 years, chatting about his two seminal books written in collaboration with Kate Pickett; The Spirit Level and The Inner Level. He talks to Hussain about his incredible body of work both inside and outside of academia. Richard uses his insight and knowledge to discuss climate change and the pandemic, showing how both expose the vast inequality that persists in society, and the clear lack of government action to tackle this. Watch to see Richard unpacking his core argument that remains, and which requires more than ever, campaigning towards—the fact that equality is better for us all.   Here's a link to his Twitter: @ProfRGWilkinson   PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO THE CHANNEL to get the latest and most fascinating research!!! Get the latest episodes and videos on: https://theknowshow.net/ The Know Show Podcast makes the most important research accessible to everyone.  Join us today and be part of the research revolution. Follow Us on Social Media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theknowshow ... Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/theknowshow ...

The Empire's New Clothes
Inequality is the Flu for Democracies, Here's Why with Richard Wilkinson - Ep. 9

The Empire's New Clothes

Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2021 46:44


A paradigm shift is coming for democracies if inequality is not soon addressed. Richard Wilkinson of the University of Nottingham joins us to discuss how he and Kate Pickett proved causality between inequality and a myriad of societal health issues. America is at a turning point where addressing these health issues and thereby inequality are becoming increasingly important. The Empire's New Clothes is a Podcast & YouTube series examining the cyclical forces that make and break empires. We’ll try to answer the big questions of how we got here as a society and tease out what’s coming next. Episodes drop every Monday. www.theempiresclothes.com https://open.spotify.com/show/0006eX0RIlaP8d4QeC4vlsP006 https://twitter.com/EmpiresClothes https://www.facebook.com/empiresclothes https://www.instagram.com/empires_clothes/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-empires-new-clothes/about/

ASCL leadership podcast
Leaders are Readers | Julie McCulloch

ASCL leadership podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2021 9:38


Julie McCulloch ASCL Director of Policy • Lionel Shriver, The Mandibles • John Higgs, Stranger than We Can Imagine • Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett, The Spirit Level

Real World Public Mental Health
Social Inequalities - Professor Kate Pickett, Rose Ssali & Andy Bell

Real World Public Mental Health

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2021 57:30


Guests:Professor Kate Pickett Professor of Epidemiology at Department of Health Sciences York, and the University's Research Champion for Justice and Equality.  She is co-author of The Spirit Level and The Inner Level and Co-Founder and Trustee of The Equality Trust. Kate is Co-Principal Investigator for the Born in Bradford study.Rose Ssali Programme Lead and Founder of Support and Action for Women Network (SAWN), which promotes the welfare of Black/African women in Oldham and Great Manchester. Rose has worked on immigration, FGM, domestic violence, parenting and money matters for 15 years. She is Chair of Mama Health and Poverty Partnership (MHaPP) a partnership of 14 Black women-led organisations.Andy Bell Deputy Chief Executive at the Centre for Mental Health.  He is a member of the Mental Health Policy Group and was chair of the Mental Health Alliance from 2006 to 2008. Andy has researched the implementation of national mental health policies and local mental health needs assessments.Episode Description:The group define social inequalities and explain how they impact on mental health.Andy shares the findings of the Centre for Mental Health's Commission for Equality in Mental Health reports. Rose gives examples of how this affects Black /African women. For example, how the lack of trust by official bodies, language barriers, parenting issues, economic issues and immigration status combine to impact on these women's mental health. Then due to mental health stigma, there is little recognition of these problems.  The group explores how early life has profound effects on mental health, income and other outcomes. Kate shares an example of bullying statistics from the Born in Bradford study, and discusses why the UK is ranked lower than other Western countries for child wellbeing and how this impacts on inequalities. Rose demonstrates how this plays out in the real world, with rigid systems preventing access to services. Covid has also had an impact - highlighting pre-existing inequalities and amplifying the effect on mental health.The discussion turns to solutions. At the national level, the need for substantial policy changes and a move away from seeing mental health as an individual responsibility. At a local level, involving communities in meaningful co-production of interventions. This requires mutual respect and trust, as well as a commitment to accepting other communities and cultures. Finally, each guest shares one thing they would like for people listening to take away:For local authorities to focus on root causes and systemic inequalities that underpin public mental health, as this will fix mental health as well as other health issues.  To own your patch, whatever it might be - ask what else you can do to help.Go out to schools, youth organisations, community groups and spend time listening. Don't accept that things are immovable.Contact:Host Stu King @Stu_King_HhProfessor Kate Pickett @profkepickettAndy Bell  @CentreforMH, Report on the Commission for Equality in Mental HealthRose Ssali @rose_ssali, @SupportSawn

Social Medicine On Air
14 | Mental Health, Individualism, and the Economy | "It's Not Just In Your Head"

Social Medicine On Air

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2020 56:50


Podcast crossover episode! Harriet and Max, hosts of the "It's Not Just In Your Head" podcast, join us today to discuss mental health, how capitalism accelerates inequality and social breakdown, and how most approaches to mental health care support neoliberal individualism. They explain the connection between personal and social liberation, our need for one another, the value and pitfalls of medication-based approaches, the need for a strong labor movement and organizing, and how mental health is inextricably bound to social conditions. "It's Not Just In Your Head" is a podcast with Harriet Fraad (@harrietfraad) and Max Golding, two mental health professionals who explore how our capitalist economic system impacts our emotional lives, from precarious housing and employment, to unaffordable healthcare, to endless debt -- it's not just in your head! Dr. Harriet Fraad is a mental health counselor and activist in New York City with over 45 years of experience, who writes and speaks on the intersection of politics, economics, and personal life; her work can be found at harrietfraad.com. Max Golding is a licenced marriage and family therapist from California who is interested in tenant and labor organizing, and connecting the struggle for mental health with other struggles for justice and liberation. Their recommended resources: Mark Fisher. (2009). Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? Winchester, UK: Zero Books. Capitalism Hits Home (podcast) with Dr. Harriet Fraad & Julianna Forlano, link Kate Pickett & Wilkinson, Richard. (2010). The Spirit Level: Why Equality is Better for Everyone. London: Penguin Books.

The Weekend University
Culture and Mental Health – Prof Kate Pickett & Prof Richard Wilkinson

The Weekend University

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2020 85:53


Get early access to our latest psychology lectures: http://bit.ly/new-talks Why is the incidence of mental illness in the UK twice that in Germany? Why are Americans three times more likely than the Dutch to develop gambling problems? Why is child well-being so much worse in New Zealand than Japan? The answer to all of these questions, hinges on inequality. This talk will explore how inequality affects us individually, how it alters how we think, feel and behave. You'll learn about the overwhelming evidence showing that material inequalities have powerful psychological effects: when the gap between rich and poor increases, so does the tendency to define and value ourselves and others in terms of superiority and inferiority. The speakers will then go on to demonstrate that societies based on fundamental equalities, sharing and reciprocity generate much higher levels of well-being, and lay out a path towards making them a reality. Kate Pickett is Professor of Epidemiology in the Department of Health Sciences at the University of York and leads the Public Health and Society research group. She is the co-author of The Spirit Level and The Inner Level, with Richard Wilkinson, and her work addresses the social determinants of health and well-being. She was a National Institute for Health Research Career Scientist from 2007-2012, is a Fellow of the RSA and a Fellow of the UK Faculty of Public Health. Richard Wilkinson is a British social epidemiologist, author, advocate, and political activist. He is Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology at the University of Nottingham, having retired in 2008. He is also Honorary Professor of Epidemiology and Public Health at University College London and Visiting Professor at University of York. In 2009, Richard co-founded The Equality Trust and was awarded the Charles Cully Memorial Medal in 2014 by the Irish Cancer Society. Links: - Get our latest psychology lectures emailed to your inbox: http://bit.ly/new-talks - Check out our next event: http://theweekenduniversity.com/events/ - Kate & Richard's books: https://amzn.to/37RwoNY

FIT.nl Podcast: verander je leefstijl.
Meer spierkracht? Werk aan je zwakke punten! Interview met bewegingswetenschapper Bryan Wolters

FIT.nl Podcast: verander je leefstijl.

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2020 64:16


Merk je dat je vastloopt met je training en maar niet sterker wordt? Luister dan naar deze aflevering met coach en bewegingswetenschapper Bryan Wolters. Hij legt uit waarom het zo belangrijk is om te werken aan je zwakke punten en hoe je na jarenlang trainen nog progressie kunt maken in de sportschool. De discussie sluiten we af met tips voor beginnende personal trainers. Waar moet je op letten als je beter wilt worden als coach?Onderwerpen:Hoe doorbreek je een plateau met krachttraining?Waarom is het belangrijk om te werken aan je zwakke punten?Tips voor een betere squat, deadlift en bench press?Hoe word je een betere coach?Stel je kunt terug naar het begin van je carrière. Welke tip zou jezelf geven als beginnende coach?Bronnen:Instagram van BryanWebsite van Bryanhttps://www.westside-barbell.com/Mini maxes: louie simmons: https://www.westside-barbell.com/blogs/march-2018/the-theory-of-developing-maximal-strengthBoektip:  Intimiteit van Paul VerhaegheBoektip: The Spirit Level van Kate Pickett en Richard WilkinsonPre-order boek BryanLeestips: https://www.bryanwolters.nl/stories/stuck-on-the-bench-press & https://www.bryanwolters.nl/stories/deadlift-sticking-points

The Real Agenda Network
The Spirit Level revisited, with Prof Kate Pickett

The Real Agenda Network

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020 28:03


In the first of this new podcast series Inequality Bites, Professor Kate Pickett, co-author of the seminal book The Spirit Level, talks to Wanda Wyporska of The Equality Trust about the book's key findings more than a decade on. Kate and Wanda revisit the crucial link between inequality and health in the context of a pandemic that has proven that we're not “all in this together”. Inequality Bites is produced by The Equality Trust and distributed by The Real Agenda Network

Shrink Rap Radio Psychology Interviews: Exploring brain, body, mind, spirit, intuition, leadership, research, psychotherapy a
#717 UK epidemiologist Richard Wilkinson on the psychological effects of social inequality

Shrink Rap Radio Psychology Interviews: Exploring brain, body, mind, spirit, intuition, leadership, research, psychotherapy a

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2020 62:35


Richard Wilkinson studied economic history and the philosophy of science at the London School of Economics before training in epidemiology. He is now Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology at the University of Nottingham Medical School, Honorary Professor at University College London and Visiting Professor at the University of York.  Since his initial research focussed on health inequalities, his books and research papers have drawn attention to the tendency for societies with bigger income differences between rich and poor to suffer a heavier burden of health and social problems. Two of his books have been the subject of documentary films – The Great Leveller  (for the Channel 4 TV’s Equinox series broadcast in 1996) was based on his Unhealthy Societies.  The Divide (based on The Spirit Level) was released in April 2016 (available on Netflix).  The Spirit Level, written with Kate Pickett is now in 24 languages.  It won the 2011 Political Studies Association Publication of the Year Award and the 2010 Bristol Festival of Ideas Prize.  His TED talk ‘How economic inequality harms societies’ has been watched over 3 million times.  Richard has received Solidar’s Silver Rose Award, the Irish Cancer Society’s Charles Cully Memorial medal, and was The Australian Society for Medical Research medallist in 2017. He and Kate Pickett published their latest book, called The Inner Level, in June 2018. Sign up for 10% off of Shrink Rap Radio CE credits at the Zur Institute

Solidarity & More
Drugs: legalisation, history, future — 3/5 in The state, crime, prisons, and the police

Solidarity & More

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2020 29:36


What is the history of mind-altering substances, and of prohibition? Are there potential medical benefits that prohibition has limited? Are we just libertarians who have a live and let live attitude to what people consume? Are their public health benefits to legalising currently illegal drugs? Who are the real victims of the drugs trade and are we just advocating for criminal enterprises to gain capitalist respectability? Intro from meeting 3 of 4 in The state, crime, prisons, and the police series. Future meetings and more: https://workersliberty.org/c19-online All audio: https://workersliberty.org/audio Referenced: ‘The Inner Level’ by Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson Rat Park study http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park further reading A review of the Inner Level published in Workers’ Liberty’s newspaper Solidarity: https://www.workersliberty.org/node/33768 https://workersliberty.org/story/2018-06-06/psychedelic-drugs-therapy https://workersliberty.org/story/2018-07-17/what-should-labour-do-about-policing https://workersliberty.org/story/2017-07-26/prescription-opioids-opiate-people https://workersliberty.org/story/2017-07-26/story-banning-legal-highs https://workersliberty.org/story/2013/05/08/cuts-will-undermine-drugs-progress https://workersliberty.org/story/2013/01/09/end-%E2%80%9Cwar-drugs%E2%80%9D Many of the above will be in audio form in Solidarity. Look for the recording of that issue, or search for the title, you may find

Main Street
Main Street Weekend, June 14th

Main Street

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2020 53:00


Sunday, June 14, 2020 - We begin with an update from news director Dave Thompson. ~~~ Jack Russell Weinstein joins us for a preview of his WHY radio show when his guests Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett discuss why income equality makes society stronger. ~~~ Long delays in naturalization ceremonies mean no voting come election time for many new Americans. Here to discuss that and a number of other issues arising from the pandemic is immigration attorney Anna Stenson.

WHY? - Philosophical Discussions About Everyday Life
“Why Does Income Equality Make Society Stronger?”

WHY? - Philosophical Discussions About Everyday Life

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2020 84:35


Host Jack Russell Weinstein visits with Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, authors of "The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better," and their newest book, "The Inner Level, How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being."

WHY? - Philosophical Discussions About Everyday Life
“Why Does Income Equality Make Society Stronger?”

WHY? - Philosophical Discussions About Everyday Life

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2020 84:28


Host Jack Russell Weinstein visits with Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, authors of "The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better."

Main Street
WHY Preview: Income Equality ~ Reallocating Public Safety Resources ~ Sue Balcom

Main Street

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2020 53:00


Thursday, June 11, 2020 - Jack Russell Weinstein joins us for a preview of Sunday’s WHY radio show when his guests Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett discuss why income equality makes society stronger. ~~~ As protests continue over the killing of black people by police, calls to defund police departments are gaining traction, including an effort in Fargo-Moorhead. Here to explain this effort to re-imagine policing and public services is Jake Mullin, one of the organizers. ~~~ Sue Balcom joins us for a discussion of farmers markets.

The Hartmann Report
DOES CONGRESS HAVE THE COURAGE TO IMPEACH TRUMP AGAIN?

The Hartmann Report

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2020 57:42


Now is the time for the House of Representatives to offer a second Article of Impeachment against Trump for nakedly violating the First Amendment, and for the Republicans in the Senate, who should now see the terrible mistake they made the last time they had this opportunity, to remove him from office before he can do any more damage to our nation. Amy Goodman from Democracy Now, was arrested during protests in St. Paul in 2008 and talks about how the MN police have a history of mistreating journalists.For the Book Club, Thom reads from "Notes on a Nervous Planet" by Matt Haig, and "The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being" by Kate Pickett and Richard G. Wilkinson.

The Hartmann Report
INSANE PRESIDENT - TREACHERY, BRIBERY AND CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS

The Hartmann Report

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2019 61:47


Was Trump pressuring Ukraine for negative information on Joe Biden's son in exchange for military aid? The Climate Strike is happening worldwide and speculations are rising on who may be the whistle blower? ~ Book reading from "The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being" by Kate Pickett and Richard G. Wilkinson Thom Hartmann is joined by Treger Strasberg and Rob Strasberg the founders of Humble Design, a Detroit based non-profit helping families transitioning out of homeless shelters by providing furnishings and design services. ~ Talk Media News report with Doug Christian ~ Economist, Professor Richard Wolff analyses the recent activity of the Federal Reserve and explains the potential impact and historical relevance.

TRANS-FORMATIONS
Pour vivre heureux vivons égaux ! | Steve feat Richard Wilkinson

TRANS-FORMATIONS

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2019 44:43


Dans cette nouvelle émission de Steve featuring Richard Wilkinson découvrez comment l'égalité réduit le stress, préserve la santé mentale et améliore le bien-être de tous afin de vivre dans un monde plus égalitaire... et donc plus heureux ! Richard Wilkinson est un épidémiologiste et professeur de l'école de médecine de l'université de Nottingham. Il a co-écrit le livre "Pour vivre heureux vivons égaux !" avec une de ses collègues, Kate Pickett. UN PROGRAMME QUI PEUT CHANGER TA LIFE, TESTER TU VAS ! ► https://boosteurdexcellence.fr/

KPFA - Against the Grain
Inequality and Well-Being

KPFA - Against the Grain

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2019 59:58


It's self-evident that unequal societies like ours are bad for the poor. However, as epidemiologist Richard Wilkinson argues, they're also bad for everyone else, including the affluent, not only because inequality affects schools and healthcare, but because it also makes us anxious and unhappy. Wilkinson reflects on our psychological well-being in wealthy but unequal countries. (Encore presentation.) Resources: Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being Penguin, 2019 The post Inequality and Well-Being appeared first on KPFA.

Reboot Republic Podcast
Prof. Richard Wilkinson #TheSpiritLevel Ep.69

Reboot Republic Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2019 46:59


This Reboot Republic podcast talks to the global expert in inequalities and their health impacts, Professor emeritus Richard Wilkinson. Professor Wilkinson is co-author, with Kate Pickett, of The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone’s Wellbeing. His Ted Talk ‘How Economic Inequality Harms Societies’ has had almost a million views. He is also coauthor of the ground breaking book The Spirit Level: Why Equality is Better for Everyone. He is also aresearcher in social inequalities in health and professor of public health at the University of Nottingham. If you want to understand inequalities, its impacts on all of us and what we can do to make a more equal society this podcast is a must listen. Support us: patreon.com/tortoiseshack

Solidarity & More
The Inner Level with Richard Wilkinson

Solidarity & More

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2019 39:37


Richard Wilkinson introduces his latest book "The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Wellbeing" , co-written with Kate Pickett, & discuss the relationships between inequality and physical and mental health, at Ideas for Freedom 2019. Check out this review by Todd Hamer workersliberty.org/node/33768 Note: the graph referred to at 3.17 can be found here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=15STbLvU5EtU6BjRHdGxgkKF6Y_6ODZSQ

The Dissenter
#83 Richard Wilkinson: The Spirit Level, How to Seek Equality

The Dissenter

Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2019 44:44


------------------Support the channel------------ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thedissenter PayPal: paypal.me/thedissenter ------------------Follow me on--------------------- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thedissenteryt/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheDissenterYT Dr. Richard Wilkinson is Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology at the University of Nottingham, having retired in 2008. He is also Honorary Professor of Epidemiology and Public Health at University College London and Visiting Professor at the University of York. In 2009, he co-founded The Equality Trust. He was also awarded a 2013 Silver Rose Award from Solidar for championing equality and the 2014 Charles Cully Memorial Medal by the Irish Cancer Society. Finally, he's the co-author of the greatly influential book, along with his wife, Dr. Kate Pickett, The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better. In this episode, we focus on Dr. Wilkinson's book, The Spirit Level, and discuss some of the main topics about economic inequality. Topics include: how to define economic inequality; the social and individual benefits of equality; Martin Daly's work and sexual inequality; the case of Scandinavian countries; possible ways to fight inequality and its effects; and Universal Basic Income. Time Links: 01:22 What is economic inequality? 04:16 What should we aim at? 07:16 How to evaluate inequality 08:25 The benefits of more equality 09:41 How do we get at those benefits? 13:53 Things people are deprived of in unequal societies 18:10 Martin Daly's work and men being deprived of sexual access to women 23:37 Can rich people use economic resources to tilt politics in their favor? 26:36 Have we been getting more unequal worldwide? 32:02 The case of Scandinavian societies and social homogeneity 35:48 Possible solutions to fight inequality and its pernicious effects 40:11 And what about Universal Basic Income? 42:17 Follow Dr. Wilkinson's work! -- Follow Mr. Wilkinson's work: The Equality Trust: https://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/ The Spirit Level: https://tinyurl.com/y98rujpl The Inner Level: https://tinyurl.com/yax4ek7k Twitter handle: @ProfRGWilkinson -- A HUGE THANK YOU TO MY PATRONS: KARIN LIETZCKE, ANN BLANCHETTE, JUNOS, SCIMED, PER HELGE HAAKSTD LARSEN, LAU GUERREIRO, RUI BELEZA, MIGUEL ESTRADA, ANTÓNIO CUNHA, CHANTEL GELINAS, JIM FRANK, JERRY MULLER, FRANCIS FORD, AND HANS FREDRIK SUNDE! I also leave you with the link to a recent montage video I did with the interviews I have released until the end of June 2018: https://youtu.be/efdb18WdZUo And check out my playlists on: PSYCHOLOGY: https://tinyurl.com/ybalf8km PHILOSOPHY: https://tinyurl.com/yb6a7d3p ANTHROPOLOGY: https://tinyurl.com/y8b42r7g

The Hartmann Report
A look at economics in the broadest sense, Dr. Richard Wolff dives deep in an hour long conversation on Democratic Socialism, its history, theory and possibility for closing the yawning gap of inequality.

The Hartmann Report

Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2019 61:43


Professor Richard Wolff joins Thom for a deep dive into the often misunderstood definitions critical to our understanding of the world around us- a look at economics in the broadest sense. As democratic socialism grows more popular it is necessary to look at exactly what we are talking about, to have a stronger understanding of it all. What is Capitalism? We live in a capitalistic economy, we have a more or less democratic form of government, but what is democracy? ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Extending the conversation, Thom reads from his book, "Screwed: The Undeclared War Against the Middle Class -- And What We Can Do About It" , as well as "The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-being" by Kate Pickett and Richard G. Wilkinson, "Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World" by Anand Giridharadas, as well as "Progress and Poverty In Economics: Henry George and How Growth in Real Estate Contributes to Inequality and Financial Instability" by Edward Nell.

Things Fall Apart
49: Writing for Purpose and Advocacy feat. Bryn Orum, J.J. Burry, John Warner, Stephanie Hurt, & Dr. Richard Wilkinson

Things Fall Apart

Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2019


In this episode, we're focused on advocacy - getting students motivated to speak up for themselves and change the world. We have so many brilliant voices who feel limited to the classroom, not realizing the power they hold. Particularly, we're going to look at how writing instruction lends itself to promoting student voices, featuring a variety of English educators, as well as authors, who recognize how important the Humanities are to promoting a flourishing democracy.Whenever I've attempted to rally my students up - to get them to stand up for what they believe in - I'm honestly not that successful. Certainly, there's some students who take command and advocate, but most shrug it off. That's not to say they don't care - students overwhelming care about the problems they see in our world...they just don't necessarily think they have the power to change it.There's so much untapped potential in today's youth - an entire generation of young adults who care about tolerance, acceptance, the Earth, and love. Yet schools rarely, if ever, want their students to engage in political discourse....to fight for what they believe in. It makes sense, given how political volatile the United States is, it isn't an advantageous position to have one's students on the news. However, these issues are core to what students find interesting and important, and seeing that relevance in their work...and most importantly, making the connection that their work is valuable, could literally change the world.Further, our classrooms are places of "rank and filing", which frankly is just a reflection of society itself. Our "merit-based" consumerist lifestyles don't lend themselves to positive, fulfilling lives, and schools are increasingly intertwined with the belief that success is framed by hoarding money and obtaining the perfect job. With so much focus on purely capitalist gains, it is no wonder that students feel they lack purpose. Plus, our unjust society contributes to most of our "on paper" problems in education - a lack of food, safety, or any safety net for our disadvantaged youth means we'll never find a human-centered education without reforming to make equitable communities. If educators aren't demanding political action to help impoverished families, then isn't all our work for nothing?The question then becomes twofold: 1) How can we encourage advocacy in schools among our student body, and is that advocacy appropriate? and 2) What is the educator's role in advocating for their students and communities?GUESTS IN ORDER OF APPEARANCEBryn Orum, director of Rise Up and Write, a summer writing program centered around advocacy in Madison, Wisconsin, who used to teach high school English and further, co-founded Clark Street Community School, who our previous guest, Bennett Jester, attends.J.J. Burry (Jess Houser), an English educator at a small public school in Texas, who is an aspiring writer and advocate of writer’s notebooks.John Warner, an author, editor, speaker, and professor focused on writing instruction. Recently, John's work has focused on writing instruction through Why They Can't Write and its companion book, The Writer's Practice.Stephanie Hurt, an English educator at Brodhead High School in Brodhead, Wisconsin. Stephanie is a teacher leader for the National Writing Project's College, Career, and Community Ready Writer's Program and The Greater Madison Writing Project.Dr. Richard Wilkinson, an accomplished social epidemiologist, author, and advocate who served as Professor Emeritus of Social Epidemiology at the University of Nottingham. He is co-founder of The Equality Trust and was awarded the 2013 Silver Rose Award from Solidar for championing equality. His co-author and significant other, Kate Pickett, wrote The Spirit Level and The Inner Level, which both focus on the across-the-board improvements of equitable societies.RESOURCESRise Up and Write (website, Facebook)Greater Madison Writing Project MediumJess Houser’s blogThe College, Career, and Community Writer’s ProgramHRP Book Review: Why They Can’t Write by John WarnerHRP Book Review: The Inner Level by Richard Wilkinson & Kate PickettDr. Richard Wilkinson’s TED TalkNCTE: Introduction to Writer’s NotebooksFURTHER LISTENINGS2 Highlight: Restoring Humanity to...Purpose (Changing the Focus of School)S2 Highlight: The Importance of Relationships w/ Monte Syrie See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The Wooden Teeth Show
How does economic inequality influence mental health?

The Wooden Teeth Show

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2019


In this episode, Jake speaks with Richard Wilkinson, co-author, along with Kate Pickett, of a new book titled "The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being". This book examines how economic policy influences a myriad of health issues—such as the fact, for instance, that mental illness is three times as common in the United States as it is Germany. In the conversation, we dive into both the reasons why economic inequality manifests in these negative health outcomes, as well as how policy solutions can fix the problem.

Plus on est de fous, plus on lit!
Mercredi 24 avril 2019 Plus on est de fous, plus on lit!

Plus on est de fous, plus on lit!

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2019 105:35


Avec Matthieu Dugal: Ça nous intéresse avec Thomas Leblanc; Le rapport Mueller en tête des ventes de livres sur Amazon. L’actualité culturel à Dakkar avec Sarah Sakho. Une entrevue et performance de Wesli. Cécile Van de Velde et Christian Nadeau ont lu Pour vivre heureux, vivons égaux. Comment l'égalité réduit le stress, préserve la santé mentale et améliore le bien-être de tous, de Kate Pickett et Richard Wilkinson. Écrivains sur le terrain avec Sarah Berthiaume et Alain Farah; le jardin communautaire. On en parle avec Marie-Claude Beaucage et Manon Dumais; Sofia Coppola. Analyse de textes de chansons avec Tatiana Polevoy et Brendan Kelly; PNL et l’album Deux frères, Billie Eilish et l’album When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?

Free Forum with Terrence McNally
How inequality hurts everybody - Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett, The Spirit Level.

Free Forum with Terrence McNally

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2019 57:04


As the college admissions scandal emphasizes once again the gulf between the wealthy and the rest of us, and the deficit skyrockets due to Trump’s GOP tax cuts for the rich and corporations, here’s my January 2010 conversation with Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett about their groundbreaking book, The Spirit Level. Based on 30 years of research, it makes clear that the more unequal a society is, the worse it is for everybody – rich and poor alike.

Digital Sociology Podcast
Digital Sociology Podcast Episode 22: Susan Halford, the semantic web, symphonic social science and how sociologists can work with computer scientists

Digital Sociology Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2019 32:07


In this episode of the Digital Sociology Podcast I spoke to Susan Halford who is Professor of Sociology at the University of Bristol and the President of the British Sociological Association. Amongst other things she explains the emergence "semantic web" to me and we discuss why this is of interest to sociologists and what sociology my have to offer in understanding it. If the web is a massive database of documents then the semantic web is a way of identifying and connecting "entities" within those documents (WolframAlpha is an example of a basic version of the semantic web). Susan says that this is a significant ontological task of identifying what kinds of things do and do not exist in this space. For the semantic web to develop huge amounts of data on all kinds of topics would need to be gathered and analysed which would also require decisions to be made about what kinds of data to include and exclude. We also discuss about the benefits and challenges of working working across the social sciences and computer sciences. I ask Susan about a paper she wrote with Mike Savage in which they outline a fascinating reading of the work of Thomas Piketty, Robert Putnam and Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett. They propose the approach taken by these authors can be applied as "symphonic social science" which could be used to approach big data. https://research-information.bristol.ac.uk/en/publications/speaking-sociologically-with-big-data(37fbb772-fa88-4371-974b-dd91ce57d86a).html Susan also offers some of her opinions on why sociologists are sometimes a bit scared to work with "big data" and how we might be able to overcome this.

Write On Radio
2/5/2019 Kate Pickett and Richard G. Wilkinson & Steve Toutonghi

Write On Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2019 52:42


Josh talks with Kate Pickett and Richard G. Wilkinson about their most recent work The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being. The Inner Level explains how inequality affects us individually -- how it alters how we think, feel, and behave.  Then Conor interviews Steve Toutonghi about his second novel Side Life --  a dazzling, intriguing, and philosophical blend of literary science fiction. It explores explores ideas of consciousness and parallel universes.

KPFA - Against the Grain
Inequality and Well-Being

KPFA - Against the Grain

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2019 59:58


It's self-evident that unequal societies like ours are bad for the poor. However, as epidemiologist Richard Wilkinson argues, they're also bad for everyone else, including the affluent, not only because inequality affects schools and healthcare, but because it also makes us anxious and unhappy. Wilkinson reflects on our psychological well-being in wealthy but unequal countries. Resources: Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being Penguin, 2019 The post Inequality and Well-Being appeared first on KPFA.

alumni UBC Podcasts
Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett - On Inequality

alumni UBC Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2019 79:39


Barack Obama cited their insights on inequality from The Spirit Level, now internationally acclaimed health researchers Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett have new lessons to share in their latest offering, The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-Being. In this talk, Wilkinson and Pickett explain how inequality affects us individually, altering how we think, feel and behave. They share the overwhelming evidence that material inequities have powerful psychological effects: when the gap between rich and poor increases, so does the tendency to define and value ourselves and others in terms of superiority and inferiority. This talk was presented by the Faculty of Medicine, the Faculty of Arts, and MASS LBP, with support from alumni UBC. Recorded February 4, 2019 at UBC Robson Square in Vancouver, BC. This recording was produced by the University of British Columbia. We are pleased to be able to share it with you, our alumni and subscribers.

The Hartmann Report
Thom Hartmann Program - 1 Hour Edition - 01/25/19 - Thom talks inequality and frames significance of Roger Stone indictment: While Trump's billionaire Treasury Secretary thinks furloughed employees could just get a loan, the financial reality for working

The Hartmann Report

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2019 60:55


Thom shows how Republican favors to the rich since Reagan have worsened working class circumstances, and reflects on Stone indictment and fraud of 2016 election. - Kate Pickett, author and researcher has the facts on how unequal out society really has become, and what real-life consequences that has for millions of people. - Thom reads from "The Inner Level review – how more equal societies reduce stress and improve well being" by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett - Economist Professor Richard Wolff discusses the latest news from Caracas with Thom and touches on why Davos is related to what is going on in South America. - Thom Hartmann Book Club. "Why Women Have Better Sex Under Socialism: And Other Arguments for Economic Independence" by Kristen R. Ghodsee - Thom's callers have some ideas on what to do with the ever-growing inequality they see all around them.

The Sacred
#18 Krista Tippett

The Sacred

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2018 54:00


Krista Tippett is an American journalist, author, and entrepreneur. She created and hosts the public radio program and podcast On Being, a podcast about spirituality, politics, ethics and faith. In 2014, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal by President Barack Obama. In this episode, Krista talks about growing up in a faith community in Oklahoma, her time as a journalist working in East Germany, and the genesis of On Being as a public radio programme. She also talks about the ways in which civil dialogue could be improved, and the power of listening, even to those with whom you deeply disagree. This episode also features a conversation with Theos' director of research Nick Spencer, who talks about "The Inner Level" by Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson. The follow up to "The Spirit Level", the book argues that societies that are more equal perform better at every level of life. Follow Theos at @theosthinktank, and follow Elizabeth Oldfield @theoselizabeth. To review the show, or make your thoughts heard, email sacredpodcast@gmail.com.

The Big Idea
Inequality Makes Us Anxious

The Big Idea

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2018 10:11


Inequality makes people anxious. How? Well, according to Kate Pickett, in unequal societies we become more conscious of our position in society, more aware of our status. That creates anxiety. And that in turn is linked to all sorts of bad outcomes, such as obesity, lower life-expectancy, and higher levels of teenage pregnancy. It's also linked, claims Professor Pickett, to consumerism. In unequal societies, she says, we're more likely to want the branded watch or handbag. Then, as you'll hear, there's the weird connection between inequality and female attraction to men…. Presented by David Edmonds Produced by Ben Cooper Image: John Cleese, Ronnie Barker and Ronnie Corbett in the Class Sketch from Frost Over England, 1967 (Credit: BBC)

Politics Theory Other
#15 Kate Pickett on the mental health effects of inequality

Politics Theory Other

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2018 42:08


Kate Pickett joins me to discuss her new book - co-authored with Richard Wilkinson - The Inner Level: How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone's Well-being, the follow up to the acclaimed The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better.

Social Science Bites
Richard Wilkinson on How Inequality is Bad

Social Science Bites

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2018 17:18


While generally accepted that inequality is a bad thing, how exactly is that so? Beyond philosophical arguments, what is it about inequality that makes it bad? That’s a question that Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett examined at a societal scale in their 2009 book The Spirit Level and have continued at an individual level with their newest book, The Inner Level. The volume’s subtitles help explain the evolution; Spirit’s is “Why Greater Equality Makes Societies Stronger” while Inner’s is “How More Equal Societies Reduce Stress, Restore Sanity and Improve Everyone’s Wellbeing.” In this Social Science Bites podcast, social epidemiologist Richard Wilkinson lays out the case that inequality should be fought specifically because it fosters a litany of ill effects. (In 2013, his partner Pickett laid out the case for equality in her own Bites podcast.) “In The Spirit Level,” he tells interviewer David Edmonds, “we showed that in more-unequal countries, with bigger income gaps between rich and poor, there is more of a whole range of health and social problems. Life expectancy tends to be lower, more obesity, higher homicide rate, more people in prison, more drug problems, more mental illness. Basically what we showed was that all the problems that have what we call social gradients, problems that are more common down on the social ladder, get worse when you increase the status differences between us.” What’s surprising, he adds, is that these negatives don’t just punch down – while the effects are stronger among the poor in fact they affect broad swathes of the population. Being well off does not inoculate you from the malign effects of inequality. Knowing that, Wilkinson and Pickett, armed with additional research that’s taken place in the last eight years, started to look at how that occurs. Wilkinson said at the time Spirit published they didn’t feel they had enough details to lay out the cause, but their hunch was that it revolved around status, “how inequality creates, or strengthens, feelings of superiority and inferiority.” As he explains here, based on massive and repeated questionnaires, we know that status anxiety – and its ill effects such as worsening health -- affects everyone, the super-rich and the dirt-poor, in the most unequal countries. Status anxiety, he suggests becomes an ironic unifying characteristic across an unequal landscape, which in turn leads him to speculate that if this were recognized it could an earlier step toward creating a more equal society. The podcast concludes with Wilkinson offering advice on creating that society by addressing income inequality by developing “economic democracy,” since an egalitarian society reduces these negative effects described above and makes us happier and healthier overall. Wilkinson is professor emeritus of social epidemiology at the University of Nottingham, an honorary professor of epidemiology and public health at University College London and visiting professor at University of York. He co-founded The Equality Trust, with support from the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust, and remains a member if the trust’s board.  

RSA Radio
Polarised: Inequality and Generation Wealth

RSA Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2018 36:13


Are economic divides to blame for everything else that’s broken in our politics? Does 'economic anxiety' explain the Trump and Brexit votes? And what deeper cultural undercurrents are at play in unequal societies? Ian and Matthew speak to Faiza Shaheen, director of the Centre for Labour and Social Studies (CLASS) about inequalities in the UK and the US. And Matthew interviews the Emmy-winning director and photographer Lauren Greenfield, whose new documentary 'Generation Wealth' (out in the UK on 20th July) looks back at her career, and tells the story of how the American Dream came to be corrupted. ###Links### Full Disclosure: The Atlantic: People Voted for Trump Because They Were Anxious, Not Poor Understanding the Social and Cultural Bases of Brexit New York Times: Trump Voters Driven by Fear of Losing Status, Not Economic Anxiety, Study Finds RSA report: Addressing economic insecurity Faiza Shaheen interview: Centre for Labour and Social Studies (CLASS) Gini coefficient CLASS factsheet: How unequal is the UK? CLASS report: 'Minority Report: Race and Class in post-Brexit Britain', edited by Omar Khan and Faiza Shaheen Podcast: CLASS on Class miniseries hosted by Faiza Shaheen Lauren Greenfield interview: Generation Wealth trailer Wikipedia: Lauren Greenfield RSA Event: How inequality gets inside our heads, with Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, authors of 'The Spirit Level' and 'The Inner Level' The Provocation: Centre for Social Investigation: People’s Stated Reasons for Voting Leave or Remain A Tale of Two Houses: The House of Commons, the Big Brother House and the People at Home Twitter: Faiza Shaheen on Twitter Lauren Greenfield on Twitter Ian Leslie on Twitter Matthew Taylor on Twitter Produced by James Shield, with production help from Jade Vowles. Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce). www.theRSA.org

Polarised
Inequality and Generation Wealth, with Faiza Shaheen & Lauren Greenfield

Polarised

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2018 36:13


Are economic divides to blame for everything else that’s broken in our politics? Does 'economic anxiety' explain the Trump and Brexit votes? And what deeper cultural undercurrents are at play in unequal societies? Ian and Matthew speak to Faiza Shaheen, director of the Centre for Labour and Social Studies (CLASS) about inequalities in the UK and the US. And Matthew interviews the Emmy-winning director and photographer Lauren Greenfield, whose new documentary 'Generation Wealth' (out in the UK on 20th July) looks back at her career, and tells the story of how the American Dream came to be corrupted. ###Links### Full Disclosure: The Atlantic: People Voted for Trump Because They Were Anxious, Not Poor Understanding the Social and Cultural Bases of Brexit New York Times: Trump Voters Driven by Fear of Losing Status, Not Economic Anxiety, Study Finds RSA report: Addressing economic insecurity Faiza Shaheen interview: Centre for Labour and Social Studies (CLASS) Gini coefficient CLASS factsheet: How unequal is the UK? CLASS report: 'Minority Report: Race and Class in post-Brexit Britain', edited by Omar Khan and Faiza Shaheen Podcast: CLASS on Class miniseries hosted by Faiza Shaheen Lauren Greenfield interview: Generation Wealth trailer Wikipedia: Lauren Greenfield RSA Event: How inequality gets inside our heads, with Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, authors of 'The Spirit Level' and 'The Inner Level' The Provocation: Centre for Social Investigation: People’s Stated Reasons for Voting Leave or Remain A Tale of Two Houses: The House of Commons, the Big Brother House and the People at Home Twitter: Faiza Shaheen on Twitter Lauren Greenfield on Twitter Ian Leslie on Twitter Matthew Taylor on Twitter Produced by James Shield, with production help from Jade Vowles. Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce). www.theRSA.org

RSA Events
How Inequality Gets Inside Our Heads

RSA Events

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2018 60:11


Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett follow up their seminal work The Spirit Level with new insights into how inequality impacts us as individuals. Arguing that societies based on fundamental equalities, sharing and reciprocity produce much higher levels of wellbeing than those based on excessive individualism, competitiveness and social aggression, The Inner Level sheds important new light into how we should organise the way we live together. This event was recorded live at The RSA on Tuesday 5th June 2018. Discover more about this event here: https://www.thersa.org/events/2018/06/how-inequality-gets-inside-our-heads

Ayes to the Left
Inequality is bad for your mental health

Ayes to the Left

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2018 38:17


After the 2008 financial crash Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett published one of the defining books on austerity.The Spirit Level showed how countries with the greatest inequality have higher rates of violence, imprisonment, drug use and obesity.Now they have published a sister book, the Inner Level, which reveals how unequal societies also have higher rates of mental illness.In the latest Ayes to the Left podcast they discuss their findings with the Mirror’s Head of Politics Jason Beattie.They explain how inequality leads to a fracturing of communities, increases loneliness and leaves people with less time to care for friends, relatives and the disabled.A society where your status is judged by how much you earn causes higher levels of stress and anxiety, they have found.And they argue that only by capping executive pay, giving workers a greater say in running companies and beefing up trade unions can tackle the problem. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

IOE insights, debates, lectures, interviews
What if… we really wanted to further social mobility through education?

IOE insights, debates, lectures, interviews

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2017 82:28


IOE Public Debates: On 31st October we held the first in our ‘What if…' events series, which challenges thought leaders to bring some fresh and radical thinking to key debates in education. We kicked off with the issue of education's role in relation to social mobility, asking the panel ‘What if… we really wanted to further social mobility through education?'. Speakers included: Kate Pickett, Professor of Epidemiology in the Department of Health Sciences at the University of York; co-author, The Spirit Level: Why Equality is Better for Everyone. Lord David Willetts, Executive Chair of the Resolution Foundation. Diane Reay, Professor of Education at Cambridge University. James Croft, Chair, Centre for Education Economics. Becky Francis, Director, UCL Institute of Education. #IOEDebates

RSA Radio
Inequality is bad for everyone, why isn't it getting better?

RSA Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2017 31:47


Matthew Taylor talks to Kate Pickett co-author of ‘The Spirit Level’ (2009) which argued inequality is bad for everyone (even the rich) citing evidence that the overall of burden health and social problems was worse in more unequal countries. Can simply knowing that people have a lot more or less than you do be bad for your health? Both sides of the political spectrum now seem to agree inequality is a problem but action to remedy it is thin on the ground. Produced by Ben Irvine, Michael Umney and Samuel Shelton Robinson. Music by Kalou.

Upstream
Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett: The Spirit Level (In Conversation)

Upstream

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2016 59:40


Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett are the authors of the book The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better. The Spirit Level not only changed the way we understand and view inequality, it inspired the creation of The Equality Trust, an organization that works to improve the quality of life in the UK by reducing economic inequality. We interviewed them for our 3-part series "Welcome to Frome". Parts of this interview are featured in the series.

UPSTREAM
Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett: The Spirit Level (In Conversation)

UPSTREAM

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2016 59:40


Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett are the authors of the book The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better. The Spirit Level not only changed the way we understand and view inequality, it inspired the creation of The Equality Trust, an organization that works to improve the quality of life in the UK by reducing economic inequality. We interviewed them for our 3-part series "Welcome to Frome". Parts of this interview are featured in the series.

Upstream
Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett: The Spirit Level (In Conversation)

Upstream

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2016 59:40


Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett are the authors of the book The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better. The Spirit Level not only changed the way we understand and view inequality, it inspired the creation of The Equality Trust, an organization that works to improve the quality of life in the UK by reducing economic inequality. We interviewed them for our 3-part series "Welcome to Frome". Parts of this interview are featured in the series.

What Do Fair Cities Look Like?
SEC*s & The City - PDF of Slides

What Do Fair Cities Look Like?

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2016


PDF of slides. Kate Pickett is a Professor of Epidemiology at the University of York. In this presentation, she examines the impact of income inequality on fairness.

What Do Fair Cities Look Like?
SEC*s & The City (*Socio Economic Class)

What Do Fair Cities Look Like?

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2016 32:00


Kate Pickett is a Professor of Epidemiology at the University of York. In this presentation, she examines the impact of income inequality on fairness. The PowerPoint Presentation is available as a PDF in this collection.

Unit for Biocultural Variation and Obesity (UBVO) seminars

Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, Welfare Regimes Hypothesis, gives a talk for the UBVO seminar series on 27th November 2009.

London Review Bookshop Podcasts
‘Inequality and the 1%’: Danny Dorling in conversation with Kate Pickett

London Review Bookshop Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2014 84:37


Our top 1% take 15% of all income. That’s the highest share of anywhere in Europe. Our bottom fifth are the poorest in Europe. In Inequality and the 1% (Verso) Danny Dorling (Halford Mackinder Professor of Geography of the School of Geography and the Environment of the University of Oxford, or, as Simon Jenkins more pithily put it, 'geographer royal by appointment to the left'), goes in pursuit of the latest research into how the lives and ideas of the richest 1 per cent affect the remaining 99 per cent of us. The findings are shocking. Inequality in the UK is increasing as more and more people are driven towards the poverty line, with profound implications for education, health and life expectancy. Danny Dorling joined us at the Bookshop in conversation with Kate Pickett, Professor of Epidemiology in the Department of Health Sciences at the University of York, and co-author (with Richard Wilkinson) of the ground-breaking The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Sciences Lectures
Inequality, sustaunability and well-being - special lecture by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett

Sciences Lectures

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2014 55:21


Professors Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson delivered a special lecture outlining the impact of financial inequality within a society : its impact on a range of health and well-being indicators as well as its impact on sustainability. The lecture was given on the 26th May 2014

Social Science Bites
Kate Pickett on the Case for Equality

Social Science Bites

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2013 18:45


Social epidemiologist Kate Pickett, co-author (with Richard Wilkinson) of The Spirit Level: why equality is better for everyone, argues that inequality has bad social effects. She discusses her ideas with Nigel Warburton in this episode of the Social Science Bites podcast. Social Science Bites is made in association with SAGE.

The Taxcast by the Tax Justice Network

In August's Taxcast: capital flight in Africa AND now in Europe, Olympian Usain Bolt fails to champion his tax affairs, and the Spirit Level writers Kate Pickett and Richard Wilkinson on tax and inequality. There's even an extra minute this month!

Analysis
The Spirit Level: the theory of everything?

Analysis

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2010 28:15


The Spirit Level is a book that aims to change the way you see the world. It has impressed politicians on both sides of politics, with David Cameron and Ed Milliband taking note of its message. Packed with scattergrams and statistics, the book argues for more equal societies. The authors, epidemiologists Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, make the case that countries with higher income inequality tend to have more health and social problems. Equality, they say, is better for everyone. But The Spirit Level has been accused of imbalance itself. Critics from the right have launched a scathing attack, saying the books methods and arguments are flawed. So who is correct? Mukul Devichand examines the evidence. He speaks to: Professors Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, authors of The Spirit Level; Professor Peter Saunders, author of Beware False Prophets; Professor John Goldthorpe of Nuffield College, Oxford; Professor George Kaplan of Michigan University; Professor Angela Clow, of the University of Westminster. Producer: Ruth Alexander.

Free Forum with Terrence McNally
Q&A: RICHARD WILKINSON & KATE PICKETT, Authors

Free Forum with Terrence McNally

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2010 50:52


Aired 01/31/10 RICHARD WILKINSON & KATE PICKETT authors of an important new book: The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better In the UK, the Guardian says The Spirit Level "might be the most important book of the year, and The New Statesman named it one of the top ten books of the past decade. Based on thirty years' research, The Spirit Level shows that unequal societies are bad for the well-off as well as the poor, when it comes to health and social problems, child wellbeing, life expectancy, infant mortality, obesity, educational scores, drop out rates, illegal drug use, mental illness, homicide, incarceration, CO2 emissions, recycling, social mobility, innovation, and levels of trust. The good news: If all these ills are related to one measure - income inequality, then, decreasing inequality should be the central goal of our politics because we can be confident that it works. RICHARD WILKINSON has played a leading role in international research on inequality. He studied economic history at the London School of Economics before training in epidemiology, and is Professor Emeritus at the University of Nottingham Medical School and Honorary Professor at University College London. KATE PICKETT is a senior lecturer at the University of York and a National Institute for Health Research Career Scientist. She studied physical anthropology at Cambridge, nutritional sciences at Cornell and epidemiology at Berkeley before spending four years as an Assistant Professor at the University of Chicago.

Heads Up! Community Mental Health Podcast
WEALTH IN MENTAL HEALTH: Mobilizing a Just & Green Recovery Economy

Heads Up! Community Mental Health Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 1970 85:55


SUMMARY Recovery from COVID-19 provides remarkable opportunities for transition to a just and green economy that would ultimately boost universal mental health. Policy professionals Trish Hennessy (Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives) and Arden Henley (Green Technology Education Centre) talk about transformative concepts such as ‘doughnut economics', ‘well-being budget', ‘inclusive economy', and the ‘three-sided coin'. They also explore how lessons learned about mental health during the pandemic, can guide economic reform while informing solutions to other global challenges, such as systemic racism and climate change. TAKEAWAYS This podcast will help you understand: Role of policy in economic reform that supports social, environmental, and economic well-being Link between policy and mental health Role of all levels of government in the move toward a just and green economy that fosters mental health at all scales Alternative Federal Budget (Recovery Plan 2020) Rebuilding BC: A Portfolio of Possibilities Social solutions within a green economy; environmental solutions within a just economy Challenges such as systemic racism, poverty, and inequality in a market economy vs. solutions in a just and green economy Potential for positive change using emerging concepts such as ‘doughnut economics', ‘well-being budget', ‘inclusive economy', and the ‘three-sided coin' Economic reform and the World Health Organization Sustainable Development Goals How lessons learned about mental health during the pandemic can guide economic reform while informing solutions to other global challenges such as systemic racism and climate change Upstream approach to economic reform that supports universal mental health   SPONSOR The Social Planning & Research Council of British Columbia (SPARC BC) is a leader in applied social research, social policy analysis, and community development approaches to social justice. Lorraine Copas and her great team support the council's 16,000 members, and work with communities to build a just and healthy society for all. THANK YOU for supporting the HEADS UP! Community Mental Health Summit and the HEADS UP! Community Mental Health Podcast.   RESOURCES Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives Think Upstream Seth Klein (The Good War) The Leap Well-Being Budget Rebuilding BC The Spiritual Level: Why Greater Equality Makes Societies Stronger by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett A Roadmap to a Renaissance Amsterdam City Doughnut   GUESTS  Trish Hennessy Trish Hennessy is a senior communications strategist at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives (CCPA) and director of Think Upstream, a project dedicated to policy solutions that foster a healthy society and community well-being. She is focused on the social determinants of health, sustainable development goals, income inequality, decent work, and an inclusive economy. Trish was the founding director of the CCPA Ontario, a progressive think tank that focuses on provincial and municipal social justice and economic issues. She co-founded the Ontario Living Wage Network. She was the founding director of the CCPA national office's growing gap project, which began in 2006. Trish was a former newspaper journalist, originally from Saskatchewan but now lives in Toronto. She has a B.A. Sociology from Queen's University, a B.S.W. from Carleton University, and an M.A. in Sociology from OISE/University of Toronto.  Email: trish@policyalternatives.ca Website: www.thinkupstream.ca Phone: 613-563-1341 (323) Facebook:  www.facebook.com/upstreamAction Twitter: www.twitter.com/UpstreamAction Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/trish-hennessy-25b9395/   Arden Henley Arden Henley is founding board chair of British Columbia's Green Technology Education Centre. He is a former Vice President of City University in Canada, and one of the founders of its Masters of Counselling program. He has a BA from McMaster, an MA from Duquesne in Pittsburgh, and a Doctorate in Education Leadership from SFU. Arden is also an Honorary Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine. Well known for his innovative leadership style and thought-provoking presentations, Arden consulted broadly with community and government agencies, and practiced family therapy and organizational development for more than 40 years. These experiences are outlined in his book, entitled Social Architecture: Notes & Essays.  Website: www.gteccanada.ca  Email: nwpses@gmail.com  Phone: 604.317.4128 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rc-arden-henley-977752122/?originalSubdomain=ca   HOST Jo de Vries is a community education and engagement specialist with 30 years of experience helping local governments in British Columbia connect with their citizens about important sustainability issues. In 2006, she established the Fresh Outlook Foundation (FOF) to “inspire community conversations for sustainable change.” FOF's highly acclaimed events include Building SustainABLE Communities conferences, Reel Change SustainAbility Film Fest, Eco-Blast Kids' Camps, CommUnity Innovation Lab, Breakfast of Champions, and Women 4 SustainAbility. FOF's newest ventures are the HEADS UP! Community Mental Health Summit and HEADS UP! Community Mental Health Podcast. Website: Fresh Outlook Foundation Phone: 250-300-8797   PLAY IT FORWARD The move toward a just and green recovery economy becomes possible as more people learn about its social, cultural, spiritual, environmental, and economic benefits. To that end, please share this podcast with anyone who has an interest or stake in the future of mental health for individuals, families, workplaces, or communities. FOLLOW US For more information about the Fresh Outlook Foundation (FOF) and our programs and events, visit our website, sign up for our newsletter, and like us on Facebook and Twitter.   HELP US As a charity, FOF relies on support from grants, sponsors, and donors to continue its valuable work. If you benefited from the podcast, please help fund future episodes by making a one-time or monthly donation. Trish Hennessy, Arden Henley Interview Transcript You can download a pdf of the transcript here. The entire transcript is also found below: RICK  0:10 Welcome to the HEADS UP! Community Mental Health Podcast. Join our host Jo de Vries with the Fresh Outlook Foundation, as she combines science with storytelling to explore a variety of mental health issues with people from all walks of life. Stay tuned! JO  0:32 Hey, Jo here! Thanks for joining me with my two guests as we explore the emerging economics of mental health, prompted by COVID-19, and how we can mobilize a just and green recovery that enhances well-being for all Canadians. But first, a huge shout out to a major podcast sponsor, the Social Planning and Research Council of British Columbia. SPARC BC is a leader in applied social research, social policy analysis, and community development approaches to social justice, and works with communities of all sizes to build, a just and healthy society for all. Thank you for supporting the HEADS UP! Community Mental Health Podcast and the HEADS UP! Community Mental Health Summit. For more info about the summit, visit us at freshoutlookfoundation.org. Our guests today are both passionate big-picture thinkers with innovative insights and ideas about the need for economic reform as we adjust to our post-pandemic reality. Trish Hennessy is director of Think Upstream, an initiative of the Canadian Center for Policy alternatives. A former journalist, Trish earned a bachelor's degree in social work, and bachelor's and master's degrees in sociology. Her work focuses on the social determinants of health, sustainable development goals, decent work and income, equality, an inclusive economy, and well-being budgeting. Welcome, Trish, it's so great to have you here. TRISH  2:09 Great to be here. JO  2:10 Before we get into the discussion about the link between mental health and economy, can you tell us a little bit about the Canadian Centre for Policy alternatives?  TRISH  2:22 Absolutely. We're an independent, nonpartisan think tank that has been advancing policy solutions to promote greater equality, social inclusion, as well as social and economic resilience and sustainability. I work out of the national office, which is based in Ottawa, and the national office is actually celebrating its 40th anniversary this year…we're one of the older think tanks. We also have offices in BC, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, and Ontario… I founded the Ontario office in 2012. Those offices focus on provincial and municipal issues, whereas the national office tends to focus on national issues. Sometimes we go into sub-national as well. JO  3:06 So how much of the work you do relates to mental health? TRISH  3:09 I think mental health and physical health are deeply intertwined, and the pathways toward improved mental and physical health include access to adequate income, to decent work, to an inclusive economy, to an economy that leaves no one behind and that protects the health and well-being of both our people and our planet. So, all of the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternative's work intersects on that front... is kind of like the hip bone's connected to the leg bone. If you leave one of those things out, you have worsening mental and physical health outcomes. So, we look at those social determinants of physical and mental health. JO  3:50 When we spoke to prepare for this podcast, you said that policy is "behind everything that shapes our world." Now, I'm sure that, as a policy wonk, you can elaborate on that. First, what is policy? And why is it important for us moving forward toward better mental health? TRISH  4:11 Year in and year out, governments at every jurisdictional level... whether it's local, provincial, or federal... make decisions and policies that affect our lives, for good and for bad. [In 2020], for example, [we saw] the federal government make a series of rapid policy decisions in the face of COVID-19 to create income security programs to try to soften the blow for the millions of workers who lost their job or their working hours due to the necessary economic lockdown in the spring [of 2020]. The government quickly realized that its previous policy for unemployed workers... the unemployment insurance system... wasn't designed for a moment of mass unemployment like we experienced at that beginning of the global pandemic. And we're still experiencing a lot of unemployment when you compare it historically. So, the federal government created CERB, the Canadian Emergency Response Benefit, and it's like a form of income guarantee for those who couldn't work at the start of the economic pause, so that we could all shelter down and give public health officials a chance to implement policies to try to get ahead of the virus, and limit the spread, and make sure that our hospitals weren't surged to beyond capacity. And that is about as dramatic an example as you can get for how governments make policies that, in this case, save millions of people's lives in Canada. And it's so important because the number-one job of any government at any jurisdictional level is to protect public well-being. And governments don't always live up to that task, but governments who succeed use wise and strategic policies to get there. JO  5:53 What types of policies affect public health in general, and mental health in particular? TRISH  5:59 Public health is like this great invisible infrastructure of experts and health care experts, whose number-one job is prevention. They promote vaccines to prevent people from getting the chicken pox or the flu. They promote safe consumption sites to prevent even more deaths in the opioid crisis that's rippled across Canada. Because we are living in the age of a global pandemic, they promote policies to protect the public. Public health officials are usually rarely visible, but now they're hugely visible. We see them on the daily news advising us to physically distance, to wear masks when we can't physically distance, to wash your hands, to protect ourselves against COVID-19. But the meat and potatoes of their work in a pandemic still kind of remains invisible. They're tracking the epidemiology of the virus, they're contact tracing, they're following up with those who are infected with COVID-19… and a lot of that isn't in front of the public eye. And yet that invisible work is what saves lives and what guides government policies to either reopen the economy or, like what's happening in Toronto where I live, to return to a modified stage two. We can't eat indoors in restaurants, the bars are closing, the gyms are closing, all to avoid swamping our hospital system, because there's a disconcerting rise in COVID cases here and in other places in Ontario, as well. And so that's public health, quietly in the background, trying to keep the wheels on the bus. JO  7:35 What about the mental health meat in all of that? TRISH  7:38 In terms of mental health policies, I think we have a long way to go to get to that preventative phase of mental health issues. Most of the policies that are in place are there to help you after you've developed a mental health issue, and even then those policies are inadequate to the task... we treat the symptoms downstream. A lot of people don't have access to mental health services. Many people can't afford them. They can't afford to go to the private market, and the public sector has not created a robust plan here. I'm actually hoping that the pandemic is the push that our governments need to invest in a national mental health plan. It's something that the federal government has promised to do in its recent throne speech. It's a long time coming. And I think with COVID-19, we're going to see a rise in mental health issues and anxieties, depression, agoraphobia for people who are going to be afraid to go out after staying sheltered for so long. And so, we're still at the baby stages of a mental health system that is more upstream in nature and that prevents things that get to the root of mental health issues. JO  8:52 I know we don't have any details, or either a firm commitment for a national mental health plan, but what might that look like to you? TRISH  9:01 A national mental health plan for me would look like what a national dental plan should look like, too, because it's in the same boat. We don't have a holistic, universal public health system right now. You can get treated if you break a bone in your arm or your leg... you can walk right into a hospital and they'll fix you up. But you can't necessarily get treated if you've got something wrong with your teeth, or if you're in emotional distress. And so, it would be a coherent, coordinated plan, where just like I can walk into my family doctor to talk about an infection that I have, I would be able to walk into a mental health facility and immediately access counseling. But that's still addressing an [existing] mental health issue. A really upstream mental health national plan would look at those social determinants of health. There's just tons of research that shows that if people have adequate access to safe and clean and affordable housing, if they have food security, if parents have access to affordable, high-quality childcare... all of these are supports that take a lot of the pressure off of a household. And they can influence the amount of mental health issues that are out there. When we think about mental health, we tend to think about what you personally can do to work through a depression or through anxiety. But it's so interrelated with everything else, like how we live, and whether we're poor, whether we're scrounging to earn next month's rent and worried about getting evicted, which many people in the middle of this pandemic are worried about. So, thinking about health in all policies, not just a mental health plan, but every federal ministry, every provincial ministry, would look across all of their departments and ask what investments would actually fuel greater mental health? And it's a holistic approach. It's big. JO  11:03 Are there any countries actually doing this kind of massive policy change and implementation of great programs like what you're discussing? TRISH  11:14 I'm really inspired these days by New Zealand. The Prime Minister of New Zealand has basically said GDP growth isn't your measure of success, because if you don't have public well-being, then it's failure. And so, in New Zealand, they're investing in well-being budgeting, and that includes investing in mental health initiatives, investing in inclusion and empowerment of indigenous communities, investing in climate change interventions, because if you don't have a healthy climate, you can't even have a healthy economy. So, she's kind of flipping the conversation where I think, for far too long and certainly in Canada, we have politicians who look at the job growth [and say] we're doing great. But the questions I asked are: Is that job growth part-time, crappy wages, where you don't even earn a living wage? Is every job that we're creating a good job that has a living wage that is not precarious, where you can actually plan for a future where you might have benefits at work in case you get sick… if you need prescription drugs? Those sort of things. That is a worldview that is counter to just looking at GDP growth and job growth. It's not asking how big is the growth, what's the percentage? It's asking about who's impacted by that? And are we lifting everyone up? JO  12:44 For each of the past 25 years, the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives has released an Alternative Federal Budget. These what-if exercises outline what the federal government could do differently to ensure and integrate social, environmental, and economic well-being. This year's Alternative Federal Budget is called ‘A Recovery Plan' that closes the chapter on the old normal, because it says the status quo after COVID-19 is no longer an option. "This is our chance to bend the curve of public policy toward justice, well-being, solidarity, equity, resilience, and sustainability." The plan goes on to say that economic issues can't be disconnected from everything else, and promotes a health-in-all-policies approach, "because if this pandemic has taught us anything, it's that public health is the requirement for economic health." So, Trish, in keeping with these quotes, tell us about the key principles and recommendations outlined in your recovery plan. TRISH  13:56 As we were writing that recovery plan, it wasn't lost on us that it's the 25th anniversary of the Alternative Federal Budget that we've been putting out every year that the federal government could take up to reduce income inequality, to battle climate change, etc. So, our recovery plan, it's like a weighty document… it's 200 pages long. We work with civil society organizations from across Canada, they help inform this document. So, obviously, I can't tell you everything in it because it's quite a commitment. But the key principles are we're advancing income security, and that to me is the core role of public policy. It's to ensure that those who are getting left behind by an economy that has been growing, but the benefits of economic growth have been growing disproportionately to those who are at the highest end of the income ladder, while more and more people are getting left behind. We promote income security for the unemployed, for people who can't get into the labour market, and we promote ideas of income adequacy as well. And if you look provincially, anyone on social assistance is trapped in poverty. Social assistance is hugely inadequate, and we think that has to be addressed. We look for income security and income adequacy, but we also look at four supports for households and individuals. I was just saying earlier about the social determinants of health, affordable housing, food security, and affordable, universal public childcare. All of these are key to helping people not only survive, but to thrive, and no full economic recovery is possible without these things, and especially with childcare, since right now, in the middle of this pandemic, too many women are actually stepping out of the paid labor market because of the lack of childcare. We're seeking an explicit equity-seeking agenda to address anti-black, anti-Asian, and anti-Indigenous racism and discrimination. And we know that COVID-19 has disproportionately affected these communities in terms of work, their ability to safely quarantine, and we've seen a rise in anti-Asian racist incidents during COVID-19. And there are higher incidences of COVID-19 among black communities, especially being tracked in Toronto and Montreal. So, we're taking a racial and gender equity strategy. And last but not least, we're also promoting a caring economy and a public health agenda. This includes investments in long-term care. We've seen far too many vulnerable seniors who have been impacted by COVID-19 outbreaks in long-term care facilities, as well as personal support workers who were not protected in the workplace from COVID-19. We're promoting investments in home care. We do think it's time for a universal pharmacare plan and the throne speech, once again, promises that there's one around the corner. And then the creation of a universal mental health care plan, as we've already discussed. We address climate change. We address trade issues, taxation, how we pay for it all. You name it, there's a chapter on it. JO  17:15 What's the URL if people want to get more information about the plan? TRISH  17:20 www.policyalternatives.ca. JO  17:23 For this plan to work, we'll need political and administrative buy-in from all levels of government, I assume. TRISH  17:31 Over 25 years, let me tell you, it's been a long uphill climb. We've had our victories, and particularly, it's kind of notable to me, particularly in moments of economic crisis, we've noticed governments are a little bit more ready to act on some of our recommendations. In the 2008-2009 global recession, we wrote an Alternative Federal Budget plan to get through the worst of that. Surprisingly, the Stephen Harper government implemented a number of our recommendations at that time, which kind of surprised us, but we were happy to see it happen. And then, again, now we're in the middle of a crisis, and we're seeing the federal government, now it's a Liberal government, and we're seeing them implement a number of the policies that we're advocating for, partly because what we're advocating for, it just makes sense. It's like we suddenly noticed public health, it's suddenly visible in the middle of a pandemic. Problems that need to be fixed, like employment insurance, suddenly become glaringly obvious in the middle of a pandemic, or a global economic crisis. The sad thing is, had more governments taken up these policy recommendations over the years, we would have been more prepared for all of this because it wasn't a surprise that employment insurance wasn't up to the task. We've known for more than a decade, that far too many unemployed workers didn't even qualify for employment insurance. And if they did qualify, it still isn't adequate. Because, remember, I was talking earlier about the importance of income adequacy. It's one thing to provide income benefits to Canadians, but if you're trapping them in poverty, you're actually just perpetuating cycles of poverty. And that's bad policy decision-making. So, long story short, we've had our moments. We do feel like there's greater receptivity to our just recovery plan because these are just obvious solutions. But I would just submit that they shouldn't just be obvious in the middle of a crisis or an emergency. If we'd had investments in these policies decades ago, we would be fighting a pandemic from upstream instead of downstream. JO  19:53 To talk more about the provinces' role in recovery and some options that are being explored in British Columbia, I welcome our next guest. Arden Hanley is Board Chair of the Green Technology Education Centre in BC, which has recently established the Council for the Green New Economy. With a Doctorate of Education, Arden is former vice-president of City University in Seattle. His recently published book, entitled Social Architecture: Notes and Essays, summarizes his 35 years experience as both a family therapist and organizational development consultant. Hello, Arden. And thanks for joining us. ARDEN  20:36 Hi there Joanne, and hi Trish. I'm delighted to have this opportunity to have this conversation with you both. JO  20:44 So, why don't you start by telling us what we need to know about the Green Technology Education Centre. ARDEN  20:50 GTech, as we like to call it, will celebrate its fourth year in the spring of 2021. It's a nonprofit and its mission is to inform, support, and activate communities in responding to the climate crisis. JO  21:09 You recently released a report called Rebuilding BC: A Portfolio of Possibilities. Can you summarize the principles and recommendations in that document, and how they mirror the model outlined in Kate Raworth's book, Doughnut Economics? ARDEN  21:29 Let me give you a bit of background first. At the time COVID struck, we were delivering a community-based program called the Neighborhood Environmental Education Project in conjunction with Vancouver's Association of Neighborhood Houses. And basically, the objective of the program was to deliver education at a community level. We had 14 different environmental organizations make presentations at the neighborhood houses. We also held town halls to listen to the community and where they were standing in relation to the climate crisis. Then along came COVID, and we pivoted at that point and formed the Council for a Green New Economy based on some of the thinking that Trish has already shared. It was very clear to us that when COVID was said and done, there was no way we can or should return to business as usual. What's the alternative? That was our question in terms of economic recovery. What a social justice and green environment and recovery looked like was the mission of the council. The council consisted of a core seven people of economists, environmentalists, lawyers, social workers, and we then surrounded ourselves with a circle of subject matter experts in areas ranging from building retrofits to corporate social responsibility. The report, as you know, is based on what we might call ‘doughnut economy' principles, and the doughnut economy suggests that in shaping the economy, we should consider not just how much money the society is making... what the GDP is... but we should also consider the social and mental health of the society, the education of the society. We should also consider its relationship to its environment or its ecology. So, if you picture the doughnut, then it has these three major layers, the 'social foundation', including mental health, education, and also social justice issues like income, equity, childcare, housing, and so forth. The inner layer is a social foundation. The next level is the relationship with the environment. If we destroy our environment, of course, our economy isn't going to function at all. And then finally, the outer layer is the economy. JO  24:16 So, Arden, what are the specific recommendations outlined in the report? ARDEN  24:23 First of all, the overall recommendation is to take the opportunity of reconstructing the BC economy, post-COVID, in terms of sustainable rather than extractive principles. And within that, then we make four key recommendations. First of all, to generate employment through the construction of new affordable housing, including modular construction for the homeless. And this would be done by an expanded and more effective nonprofit sector. We go on to say, number two, create jobs and reduce carbon emissions through programs that support large scale retrofitting of buildings. Interestingly, buildings are one of the major sources of carbon emissions up to 60% in cities. There's a tremendous carbon payoff from this, as well as great opportunities for employment. The third recommendation addresses our food supply by encouraging BC to secure its food supply by supporting farm employment and increasing land use. And finally, here, there's a tremendous convergence with mental health. As you know, we encourage the government to employ up to 30,000 young people as Recovery Rangers to help with BC's economic recovery. And in the report, we spell out a number of areas where youth employment could be particularly an asset, such as the restoration of environments such as wetlands, the further enhancement of walkability in cities... we identified several areas like that as employment opportunities for young people that would also result in a more green environment for us all. JO  26:26 We heard from Tricia about the federal government's role in policy change. Ideally, what is the province's role in achieving your recommendations? ARDEN  26:36 Well, as you know, the province has very many key domains, such as energy, mines and petroleum; municipal affairs; social development; and poverty reduction… all of those areas fall under the auspices of the provincial government. Provincial government does also have a lot to say about the environment and climate change strategy and has a ministry with that title. The provincial government is also responsible for forest lands and natural resources and rural development. So, all those domains, then there's tremendous steps forward that provincial governments can take to complement the broader strategy of the federal government. JO  27:23 I know that you released this report a number of months ago, and I'm just wondering where you're at with that. Are you having discussions with the provincial government? And if so, how are they unfolding? ARDEN  27:36 Jo, we've had three very productive conversations with government at the cabinet level. We've been very encouraged by their response and also by the inclusion of some of our recommendations in their first economic recovery strategy. But most importantly, we've opened channels for ongoing dialogue. The report has also been a springboard for some further definitive action on the GTech board's part, which we're very excited about. JO  28:09 I know that you've also had discussions with a number of different organizations throughout the province, what has come of those? ARDEN  28:19 In the construction of the report, we had a lot of great feedback from environmentally concerned organizations and environmental organizations. And we incorporated that in the report. But from our point of view, and it also enabled us to build on the relationships that we'd begun to establish through the Neighborhood Environmental Education Project, with a range of the many environmental organizations in BC. And through that, we also began to see a picture of not only tremendous industry and accomplishments, but also continued fragmentation, and a lack of consolidation of effort, which is really been a part of a new strategic plan that the board has been working on, in which GTech has a role in addressing this issue of fragmentation or, in more positive terms, consolidating our efforts. JO  29:20 You've mentioned numerous times that a prime focus of this is enriched employment opportunities, especially for younger people. Have you had any input from organizations like the BC Federation of Labor, for example? ARDEN  29:38 Yes, we have actually built a very positive relationship with the Fed, and we're engaged in ongoing discussions with them. Of course, they have tremendous sensitivities on behalf of their members about where employment takes place, and what government policy supports. I think what's very unique, and I think they would say that as well… that we have not taken a proselytizing stance. With the Fed, we've taken a stance that says let's find common ground, and they certainly do have environmental concerns. And they also have social justice concerns, which we share. JO  30:22 Looking again a little deeper into the employment aspect of this, I know Arden that you have been long involved in counseling and social development and those kinds of things. Why do you think these kinds of green tech opportunities will be embraced by younger potential employees? ARDEN  30:45 While there's no question that the next generations from Gen Z and on are already deeply concerned about the climate crisis. I recall vividly marching across the Cambie Street Bridge with nine- and ten-year-olds, along with parents, teachers, and people of all ages, carrying signs clearly very concerned and aware about environmental issues. There's no question that young people are aware of the climate crisis, its implications, and feel a tremendous urgency, understandably, about this issue being addressed. JO  31:27 And they're also looking to make a contribution to their communities, aren't they? ARDEN  31:32 Definitely. We have a great pilot project going right now, by the way, with Gen Z via two BC high schools, and we're doing an education project about electrified transportation, using an AI mediated application. It's so much fun, and they have so much concern, but also a really sophisticated understanding of these issues. JO  31:57 That's great. It sounds like you're doing amazing work. ARDEN  32:00 I hope that's the case... I certainly feel good about it. The other thing I wanted to mention to you is that Rebuilding BC has also inspired the GTech board of directors to take GTech in a much more definitively educational direction, with the ultimate goal of creating an educational institute in a much more formal way than it is now, including, eventually, degree granting. So, we're quite excited about that development. And I want to assure you, by the way, that as we began to design what this center will look like, that mental health, providing support through counseling and community development initiatives, in relation to mental health has a key role to play in our view. JO  32:48 Well, we'll have to have another discussion once that is all set and ready to go. ARDEN  32:53 For sure... be delighted to. JO  32:55 So, we talked about federal and provincial roles in the move toward a more sustainable economy that also supports mental health. What about the role of local governments in that transition? Arden, do you think local governments have any clout here? Or are they at the whim of senior government policies? ARDEN  33:18 Well, I think Trish was very right in saying that municipal governments, city governments, right now are really struggling. They've lost enormous tax revenue, and at the same time, have had to provide additional services. But Vancouver, for example, does have a plan. And they've put a great deal of energy and attention into it. So, I think cities can play a very important role. JO  33:43 Trish, any more thoughts on that? TRISH  33:46 I agree, they've got one hand tied behind their back, for sure, because they don't have the fiscal tools that provincial and federal government have. But also, I think sometimes local governments have more weight, and some of them think they do, because all of those downstream problems have an economy that's not sustainable in terms of income inequality and climate emergencies. Those present themselves as major problems at the doorsteps of our municipal governments and our health units. So, municipalities are on the front lines, sending word back to senior levels of government to hopefully inform policy and fiscal transfers from those governments. So, I think sometimes municipalities don't have the strength. But especially when they get together and make demands of senior levels of government, real change can happen. JO  34:39 We did a podcast about the role of local government in community mental health, and the big takeaway for me there was that it's not only important for local government to work with senior governments but also with people within their own communities. Groups like businesses, universities, colleges, schools at all levels, and particularly community groups, who not only have ideas about how things can be improved, but also they have the manpower and the passion to get these things on the ground. So, I think that's something else that's really worth noting. TRISH  35:23 Absolutely. Whether it's city council, or provincial or federal, governments cannot make policy in a vacuum. It has to be shaped by the lived experience of people on the ground.  JO  35:34 Exactly. Both of your documents… Trish, your Alternative Federal Budget recovery plan… and Arden, your Rebuilding BC document, they both outline the need for a just and green economy. Let's dig a little deeper here, starting with a just economy. Trish, how would you define that? TRISH  36:00 I talked a little bit about that earlier. And so really, to me, the core of a just economy ensures that economic growth isn't the only measure of success, because then you're leaving a lot of suffering out of that frame. A just economy operates on key principles of income, security, greater equality on all fronts... that caring economy that I talked about earlier. And it also understands that a green economy has to be embedded in the just economy, because if we can't save our planet, if the next 40 years is more trying to deal with climate emergencies, then the people in the communities who will be hardest impacted by that by climate change and those climate emergencies, will be people on the lower end of the income spectrum. We see it with every kind of crisis, and we're seeing it with COVID-19. It impacts lower income communities more… it impacts racialized communities more. So, a just economy really is focused more on like that doughnut economy that Arden was talking about. JO  37:11 Arden… additional thoughts? ARDEN  37:13 Let me start with a story. I teach a course called the Psychology of Aging. And one of the exercises I ask students to do is imagine themselves as 72 years old, and looking back over their lives, to ask questions like: What were the most significant turning points in your life journey? And are some of those ones that you would decide differently? Looking back, are there others that you're absolutely delighted with? I have them do it in triads. So, if you can picture that situation, and then following that, the class's debriefing their experience of the exercise, by the way, this exercise, speaking of social justice, has the effect of getting younger people under the ages of barrier. That's one of the intentions. In any case, we're debriefing this exercise, and suddenly, one of the students in the class, it's a graduate class, she's probably around 28, and she suddenly started sobbing. It was so powerful. And she and I talked, and what she said was, "I can't be sure that I'll be even alive when I'm 72. I don't know whether I want to get married. I don't know whether I want to have children. The future of the planet, the environment, but also the social world is so uncertain." It really broke my heart. And there you begin to see that connection between the climate crisis and mental health. It's very evident. JO  38:54 Can you give us some examples as to how a just economy would support better mental health outcomes? Trish... TRISH  39:04 Let me try to loop it in with a just economy and a green economy, and how that could foster better mental health. And just thinking about Arden's exercise... I wish everybody would go through that thought exercise and really think about the future that faces them if we continue with the status quo. There's this term called 'eco-grief'. It describes the deep sense of angst and dread that many people feel, and especially young people, when they realize that our economic activities are compromising the health of our planet. And that time is really running out quickly. And it describes the despair that many people feel over the lack of concerted government efforts to treat climate change like the emergency that it is. Arden mentioned Seth Klein, earlier in his comments, and Seth Klein has a new book called 'A Good War', and it draws on the lessons from previous war time in Canada, where governments treated things like an emergency and made incredible policy advances, and how we need to treat climate change like that emergency. And that's why it's called 'A Good War'... it's definitely a book worth reading. I think that if you address climate change, like the emergency that it is, you would be addressing some of that eco-grief that's out there. And eco-grief isn't just when you think about your future and you wonder, "Am I going to have a future, because are we going to have a healthy planet?" But eco grief is already happening to people whose communities have been ravaged by wildfires, by flooding, by other community-related emergencies. And so, dealing a plan that anticipates more of this, and supports people through these climate emergencies, would also be part of addressing eco-grief. Human beings are deeply connected with our natural environment. We live in a built environment, but we have a deep connection with that natural environment. And if that natural environment isn't doing well, we aren't either… physically or mentally. JO  41:11 Before we move on to a rather complex question. Arden, I'd love for you to just very briefly explain what a green economy is. ARDEN  41:21 I think the major criteria of the green economy is its environmental sustainability. Are we relating to our environment in a way that will result in future generations having the same abundance that we've experienced? And clearly, our current economy does not meet that key criterion. If we continue to use fossil fuels at the level that we currently use them, we will fundamentally destroy environment of the planet. So that's, to me, the first criteria. And the second is how can we relate to the environment in a way that also supports our resilience as communities, families, and individuals. And this whole idea of connection is so important. When I asked Jody Wilson-Raybould, who represents our riding [federally], and is also a colleague, what was the most important thing that Indigenous people had to say about a green economy, she talked, as Trish did earlier, about connection. We need to foster, embrace, and celebrate our connection to the natural world. JO  42:36 So, ideally, we need policies and practices at all levels of government that foster a just economy, and that support a green economy as well. Now, let's talk specifics about how those can best intersect. In your two documents, there are areas of focus that overlap. And I'd like to explore those one at a time and their impacts on mental health. Let's start with climate change. How can what we know about green technology enable not only environmental outcomes, but social sustainability as well? ARDEN  43:17 Well, I think New Zealand, Norway, Finland, are showing us a lot about how to create a healthy society. Let's take for example, how business operates. In all of those countries, government is requiring that corporations…  businesses… address environmental and social justice issues in their business planning and operations. So, that requirement is one way to bring the commercial sector of the economy on board with creating not only a more sustainable, but a more compassionate, supportive, and respectful society. JO  43:58 Trish, any comments on that integration regarding climate change? TRISH  44:03 I totally agree with Arden... I would just add one thing. There's this nascent but growing movement in Canada around inclusive economy initiatives. And here they're looking at what public anchor institutions can do in any community across Canada to foster a just economy that's inclusive, sustainable, and that is also a green economy. So, with public anchor institutions... your city council, your hospitals, your universities... these are examples of public institutions that make spending decisions every day, whether it's for procurement, they're putting out RFPs for work that has to get done. And so, with regard to procurement, they're saying, why not make your criteria for procurement social procurement criteria. Instead of just putting out an RFP, and the criteria is we're going to give the RFP to the lowest bidder... how are you the lowest bidder, well, you're  paying your employees low wages. And some government policies and spending decisions are actually reinforcing the low-wage precarious economy. If you actually make an inclusive economy, an element and a goal out of your procurement policies would be to look at RFPs from companies in our community who show a commitment to green sustainable practices, who hire and/or offer training opportunities and apprentice opportunities for people from marginalized and historically disadvantaged communities. You think of all the money that gets spent from all these public anchor institutions, and we forget the social and the sustainability question within it. So, ideally, they would intersect by saying, we're not putting out RFPs, or making contracting-out decisions based on cheap. We're making those decisions based on inclusion and resilience and sustainability. And by the way, if public anchor institutions did this, this would be good for their local economies, because they would be less dependent on these external multinational corporations [that] are only interested in your community if you're a low tax jurisdiction, if they can actually get away with a low-paying workforce so that they can extract more profits that don't stay in the community. So, an inclusive economic approach, if you're building a bridge, you would have a community benefit agreement, so that the general contractor who's building the bridge would be hiring people from the community who are on the sidelines of the labour market. They want in, but they don't have access to those opportunities. So, there's a lot more power that our public anchor institutions have, I think that they could be exercising, that we have to change the frame from cheap and low bidder, to social and sustainable. JO  47:02 Trish talked in detail about inclusive economy, and both of your reports talked about equality. Are those the same thing? TRISH  47:12 They're interconnected, for sure. I co-founded the National Income Inequality Project in 2006. Actually, since then, we've been tracking the growth of income inequality in Canada, and the storyline is the same today as it was in 2006. As we've grown the economy, the benefits of that economic growth haven't been redistributed.... that more and more, if you're well off, you're even more better off. Corporations and CEOs, the CEO pay gap compared to the average income, keeps going through the roof. So, if you actually want to attack income inequality, and protect the middle class and the working class, and eliminate poverty, then you have to change how you do your economy. And you have to make sure that the economy isn't simply extractive. That economy has to have social goals that say, we want to be a Canada that leaves no one behind, and we're one of the wealthiest countries on the planet, we actually have the resources to do it. The pandemic is forcing us to spend some resources to do some of this stuff, but it can't stop there. We can't go back to an old model because it wasn't working in the first place. JO  48:32 Arden, any comments about inclusivity or equality? ARDEN  48:37 Absolutely. Let me channel first Bernie Sanders a little bit… and looking at the example of the United States… three billionaires... Bezos, Gates, and Buffet... command as much wealth as the lower 50% or 150 million people in the US. This is income disparity. Now, let me link it directly to mental health through a book that I found so informative and fascinating, The Spiritual Level by Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett. And what that book does, and their subsequent research does, is report on the social and mental health impact of income disparity. It turns out that there's a very direct relationship between income disparity and a whole range of societal wellness and mental health issues, ranging from infant mortality to longevity, including teenage pregnancies and delinquency. There's just a remarkable connection. And this research was enabled, of course, because over the last 50 years, the developing countries have kept very comprehensive statistics of the social dimensions or determinants of societies. So, let's talk about taxation and banks. If we want to have a healthier society, we need to adjust the tax system so that it redistributes income much more equitably. And we also need to provide sources of funding that recognize, explicitly, wellness and sustainability. We need instruments like social banks. JO  50:24 Both of your reports also included information about affordable housing. So, Trish, starting with you, what is the link between that and both a just and green economy? TRISH  50:38 Here, I'm just gonna give you an example. The City of Medicine Hat [Alberta] became the first city in Canada to eliminate chronic homelessness. And how did they do that? They gave people housing... they gave them access to housing. And once they had access to housing, they offered other income and community support to help the homeless integrate back into the community. This is a model of how you actually look at solutions that aren't just one dimensional. Yes, the homeless need housing, but they also benefit from wraparound services so that they can get back on their feet and integrate into the community again. Unfortunately, I think too many times when we think about affordable housing, we think about it in commodified private market-sector terms. We think about affordable housing as the housing market is too expensive. Say, can we do something to lower my mortgage rate? And, [with] that focus on the private sector… can I buy my own home and afford to?" [This] pushes a lot of people out of the window... the homeless number one, but also people who will never be able to afford to carry a mortgage, people who will always be in the rental market or rental market that is squeezing more people is increasingly unaffordable, and not regulated to protect renters and tenants. I think that you have to look at all of these things in an integrated way. And not just in that commodified private sector market. What can a government do to make it easier for you to buy a house or a second home... the well off? We have to think about who's missing from this frame? JO  52:28 Arden, what about the impact of education on a just and green economy? ARDEN  52:34 Let me just say one thing about housing if I can, Jo. One of the things we recommend is the support and further development of nonprofit housing providers, which can really make a substantial difference in the availability of housing to minorities and the economically disadvantaged. The other thing… I just want to highlight what Trish was saying about once you have people housed, then you can wrap services around them much more easily than if they're on the street or moving from place to place. Education's my bias, one of the fundamental predictors of sustainability and health in a society. And there's so much that we can do with education. Let's just take the example of assuring that we're educating girls and young women. The level of education of women in the society is one of the most vibrant predictors of the society's wellness and its economic development. JO  53:36 This last one is really near and dear to my heart as a communication specialist to all levels of government with regard to public outreach and engagement. What is the link between public engagement, a just economy, and a green economy? TRISH  53:53 In researching what some communities across North America and in the UK are doing to foster an inclusive economy, I was struck by what the City of Seattle has done. They've actually set up a table where all of the representatives from frontline service workers in those most marginalized and disadvantaged communities, they have a table to inform the city policies and budget decisions. In Canada, often there'll be consultations, and there might be a brief mayor's table that's created. And you might be able to come in and weigh in at that one time, and then you're gone. This table is a permanent table. The people who are actually seeing the devastation of public policies and an economy that leaves too many behind have a permanent place influencing the city's budget and policy decision-making. And those are frontline leaders who are deeply connected in their communities and they're bringing back the information, the stories. and the recommendations from their communities. I think that's a powerful model. JO  55:06 It's very progressive. Arden? ARDEN  55:09 I was just thinking of in terms of an inclusive economy. And I'm sure that an inclusive economy contributes to the mental health of the society and its members. It's about the availability of money. And this is another strength of public banking, which is very well developed in Europe, for example, public banking is much more inclined to make money available to disadvantage groups. JO  55:38 So, you're talking about public investment, then? ARDEN  55:41 Yes, absolutely. Public banks are generally owned by government. It's an instrument that government can use to generate a more just and more fair economy. TRISH  55:54 And imagine if we had that here, and that if you were very low income and needed cash quickly, that your option wasn't solely to go to payday lenders who are charging exorbitant, I would say criminal, amounts of interest that can just keep you stuck in poverty forever. Imagine if we actually delegitimize the payday lender sector and said, there's a role for government here. ARDEN  56:22 Thanks so much for getting there, Trisha. That's where I was going to go next. Yes, let's get rid of a loan outfit. TRISH  56:29 Exactly. JO  56:30 I know you both agree that social justice, resilience, and sustainability are three sides of the same coin. So, have we already covered that? Or are there other things that you'd like to add here? Arden? ARDEN  56:45 COVID made it very clear, I think Trish was saying that earlier. The people who are suffering most, let's even say dying, or frequently are the disadvantaged members of our society. So, you can begin to see there... the sides of the coin relate to one another. Or if you look at climate change... the communities and the countries in the world who are already suffering the impact of climate change, most dramatically, are the countries who are in poverty with disintegrating societies, and so forth. We need to approach these issues from all three sides of the coin, that is including social justice and resilience along with sustainability. JO  57:30 So, that triples the complexity then of the challenges and the opportunities? ARDEN  57:36 It also amplifies the benefits of making significant progress, and any side of the coin, because it's likely to influence the other sides in a positive way. TRISH  57:48 I think it acknowledges the complexity… it acknowledges that all of these things are interconnected, that the Minister of Health doesn't just look at doctors and nurses and hospitals. If the Minister of Health really wants to promote healthy societies, that Minister of Health is working with the Minister of Education is working with the Minister of Labour, to create decent work, to create educational opportunities, skills, training, lifelong skills, an economy that keeps changing and demands more and more of us. So, it's like what I said earlier about the leg bone being connected to the hip bone. Sometimes public policy acts as though they're not connected at all. But if you acknowledge that complexity, and how interconnected all of these things are, then you're actually not putting good money after bad money, you're actually investing in solutions that can lead to a healthier, more cohesive society. And also more inclusive economies that give people hope and make them feel like they have a chance in life. And all of that is deeply interconnected with the health and vibrancy of our democracies, because I've long said that democracies can't run on autopilot... it requires a deeply engaged citizenry. And you can't do that if you're just fighting to keep a roof over your head. If you're fighting to get some kind of food, any kind of food into your home, you can't feel like you're actually engaged. You've got this other full-time job and it's trying to stay alive and keep your family going. So, acknowledging those complexities would be a very upstream approach to government policymaking. JO  59:33 How do both your organization's recommendations for a just and green economy stack up against the World Health Organization's sustainable development goals? Arden? ARDEN  59:46 We know that Rebuilding BC is fundamentally aligned with the sustainability goals of the United Nations and was something that we took into consideration and were aware of. And the amazing thing is, so many of these documents, these reports, these policy recommendations, are aligned with one another. And my hope for the future is that we'll work more closely together and have more dialogue.  TRISH  1:00:14 If we embraced well-being budgeting and inclusive economy initiatives, we would make far more progress on those Sustainable Development Goals than we're making today. As I said earlier, Canada is one of the wealthiest countries on the planet. The only thing preventing Canada from achieving those Sustainable Development Goals has been political will, at every jurisdictional level. And so, I'm hoping that if one good thing can happen from a pandemic, that will snap us out of the status quo approach, because the status quo hasn't been the option. Both of our documents that we're talking about today give us a pathway to achieving those goals. JO  1:00:53 Talking about what we've learned from the pandemic, what have you learned about each of the following? First of all, the potential for rapid policy change and financial support? Trish? TRISH  1:01:05 Everything is possible. Everything's on the table, and everything is possible. And like I said about Seth Klein, what he has to say... treat it like an emergency... and the solutions present themselves. ARDEN  1:01:16 Governments can pivot enormously quickly when they have to, and they can command more resources than they've allowed us to know. JO  1:01:27 How about the drawbacks of bipartisan politics and their impact on our ability to move toward better mental health? TRISH  1:01:37 I think we've seen less performative politics... performative, partisan jostling during the pandemic. I mean, there's still some of it, but there hasn't been a huge public appetite for that sort of thing. JO  1:01:48 Not in Canada, anyway.  TRISH  1:01:50 That's right. Watching the US news can feel very defeating some days. So, there's been more cooperation than I think we're used to seeing in recent years. And I think that you're seeing how things can work when provinces and municipalities and the federal government work in common cause. And I just want to see more of it over the long haul. JO  1:02:10 What about the role of innovation? TRISH  1:02:13 We've seen huge innovation from the public service to create federal programs to support those workers and businesses that were sidelined at the start of the pandemic. There were public servants who were writing new policy overnight, and doing very innovative work under duress, often from their homes with children under foot at the beginning of the economic lockdown. It's not just in this moment that we see it. Economist Mariana Mazzucato, she's written about the history of the public sector, and how governments have historically led the way on innovations that later get picked up by the private sector. And so, governments and the public sector often get short shrift when it comes to appreciating the power that they have to create innovative new solutions to the problems that are before us. But I actually hope that this pandemic is fostering a renewed appreciation for the role and the responsibility that governments have not only to protect the public good, but to spur the innovations required to meet that goal, to protect and support the public good. ARDEN  1:03:23 On the ground level, my local coffee shop has been so innovative in continuing to connect with, reach out, and serve the local community. And also, I think the business sector of the economy has been incredibly innovative, and shifting a great deal of their transactions, meetings, and work online to lower the risk of transmission through face-to-face encounters.  JO  1:03:52 This next one is really key to me in that the Fresh Outlook Foundation has really focused on increasing communication and collaboration. So, what have you learned about the importance of collaboration during the pandemic? That could be across geographies, governments, businesses, NGOs, academics, demographics, etc. We could go on. Trish, what's your takeaway there?  TRISH  1:04:23 This is a big one. But I'll just focus on how we have seen public health experts and epidemiologists from around the world collaborating on learning in real time about this virus, sharing that information so that other countries can be better prepared to deal with outbreaks, working collaboratively to try to develop in real time vaccines that can sometimes take decades to create. And so, I'm seeing a level of cooperation for all around the public good that is not just national in scope. You're seeing it across Canada, but you're also seeing it globally as well. And that is very heartening to me. ARDEN  1:05:08 I think the level of collaboration, level of action, and hot networks has increased quite dramatically. And it's really heartening. And it's really a lot of fun. So, let's reach out, listen, connect, learn, and then take action together. JO  1:05:28 When we talk about these revelations for rapid policy change, financial support, the role of innovation, the importance of collaboration, how can we use these revelations to best inform response to other very big societal challenges such as loneliness and systemic racism, for example? TRISH  1:05:53 I'm going to go back to Seth Klein's findings from his book, The Good War. Treat it like an emergency. Treat loneliness and depression like it's an emergency, instead of putting people on six-month waiting lists that they may or may not ever be [able to] afford or to have access to help from. Treating homelessness like an emergency. Before this pandemic, we just really became complacent, and I'm really hoping that this pandemic jolts us out of that. ARDEN  1:06:24 I think we need to work together on the fundamentals. And to me, the fundamentals are building communities and supporting families. That's the cornerstone of our society. JO  1:06:36 Given the tenure of existing free-market economic policies and practices, how can we make the break to a more just and green economy? TRISH  1:06:49 We might be reaching the tipping point with this global pandemic. It broke down supply chains. It's illustrated the power of governments to act. It's reduced many private-sector actors to businesses begging for government help, and we can't unsee that. That is something that's happening, and it's affecting how we view who acts and where the leadership needs to come from. ARDEN  1:07:12 To go back to Trish's point, I think the fundamental flaw is prioritizing material gain over the public good. And I think that we need to prioritize the public good, and all of our thinking, and especially our thinking about economies. And yes, COVID has helped us to make that transition. The great majority of people are very aware of the imperative to take care of one another during this period, to wear masks to keep appropriate distance, to limit our social contact, at the same time finding new ways to be connected with one another. JO  1:07:54 Exactly. And I hear over and over again amongst my family and friends and professional networks that people are really thinking about what really matters. And I think that's just a hugely important shift. Let's say that we do hop on that path to a more just and green economy. How long would it take before we start seeing positive impacts of that? TRISH  1:08:22 I think almost immediately… you put the inputs in, and the outputs will start presenting themselves almost immediately. It will take as long as required, but not a second more, and change can happen swiftly. ARDEN  1:08:35 I live near a very busy street called King Edward. It's an east-west thoroughfare in Vancouver, not quite as dramatic as the Gardiner Expressway in Toronto, but a very busy street. For two weeks, during the height of the pandemic, King Edward went quiet. There were occasional vehicles rather than herds of vehicles. And those vehicles were driving very slowly. There w