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After more than a dozen books and decades writing for publications like Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone, Rich Cohen knows how a great story can change the way we see both the past and ourselves. In today's episode, Rich and Ryan trade stories about the books and writers that shaped them, the ambition behind creative work, how discarded material influences a finished book, the myths that can take over a writer's life, and more. Rich Cohen is a bestselling author, journalist, and screenwriter. His writing has appeared in The New Yorker, The Atlantic, Harper's Magazine, Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair, and The Wall Street Journal. He is also the co-creator, with Martin Scorsese, Mick Jagger, and Terence Winter, of the HBO series Vinyl.

From Bob Marley to Chogyam Trungpa and Ram Dass, David and Raghu explore the many paths that lead us back to one love.This time on Mindrolling, David and Raghu discuss:David's work filming Bob Marley The attempted assassination of Bob Marley in Jamaica, 1976 David's encounter with Bob after his cancer diagnosis The profound impact of Bob Marley on David Silver's lifeThe many forms that transformation comes inAn explanation of Mahayana Buddhism How Chogyam Trungpa made complicated concepts more practicalTrungpa's teachings in Training the Mind and Cultivating Loving KindnessRam Dass's book There is No OtherCheck out the book recommended by David in this episode: A Brief History of Seven Killings by Marlon James “Bob's friendship had metamorphosed my whole life. His magnitude as a divine messenger was enough to change me. That coupled with the most potent music I'd ever heard was enough to seep Bob's special essence into my own heart and recover me so often from despair, doubt, or depression.” –David SilverAbout David Silver:David Silver is the former co-host of the Mindrolling podcast. He is a filmmaker and director, most recently coming out with Brilliant Disguise. Brilliant Disguise tells the unique story of a group of inspired Western spiritual seekers from the 60s, who in meeting the great American teacher, Ram Dass, followed him to India to meet his Guru, Neem Karoli Baba, familiarly known as Maharaj-ji. Two days before he left his body, Maharaj-ji instructed K.C. Tewari to take care of the Westerners, which he did resolutely until the day he died in 1997. Silver's #1 charting MGM/UA/Warners film, “The Compleat Beatles” is the critically acclaimed biopic movie about history's most famous band. The term ‘rockumentary' was first applied to this two-hour movie. Rolling Stone recently described the film as a “masterwork.” Silver's Warner Brothers' feature film, “No Nukes” also started the whole trend of music/activism feature documentaries. Be on the lookout for David's upcoming book! “The idea that we are alone and striving alone is corrosive. As soon as we can overcome that, we find an even deeper pleasure but it has nothing to do with acquisition, competition, and matters of repeated forms of hatred and animosity.” –David SilverSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In Episode 378 of History in Five Songs with Martin Popoff, Martin examines the many ways rock singers use falsetto. From the theatrical and expressive styles of Queen and David Bowie to the comedic, shrieking, and novelty approaches of artists including King Diamond and the Rolling Stones, Martin goes deep on this one. King Diamond – “Little One" Queen – “Cool Cat” Halford – “Silent Screams” David Bowie – “Ashes to Ashes” Rolling Stones – “Fool to Cry” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rupert Guenther is an Australian improvising violinist and pedagogue. Some of the music you'll be hearing is excerpted from his 5 albums commissioned from the ABC. You'll hear stories from his varied career, in both Australia and Vienna, and influences and mentors from Melvyn Cann, Terje Moe Hansen, Igor Ozim and Allan Zavod. He shares his approach to creating fully improvised music as a classically trained violinist and how he teaches his students to ground their playing with his reflective approach.You can also watch the video on my YouTube. Have a look at the show notes of this episode on my website, where you'll find all the links, including different ways to support this podcast, and other episodes you'll enjoy: All the links!photo: Anne Errey(00:00) Intro(01:43) Guildhall experience with clip of track 2 from New Letters to Esterhazy Sonata I(07:09) Terje Moe Hansen, Rupert's first teachers(11:50) ABC commissions, remembering Melvyn Cann with clips track 3 and 1 from Sonata I The Moxbournienna Sonatas(19:03) playing with amplification with clip Sticks and Branches from Amplified Soundscapes for solo violin, benefits of improv(24:30) Igor Ozim, Brian Finlayson, Helfried Fister, Vienna(39:17) linked episodes and ways to support this independent podcast(40:30) Rolling Stones, Melbourne exposure to global music with clip of track 2 The Moxbournienna Sonata I(46:33) how busking helped connect with audiences with clip “Meeting Lao Tau from New Sacred Music vol. 2(52:03) approach to teaching, getting over stage fright through improvisation, Conservatorium of Intuitive Music, with clip of track 4 New Letters to Esterhazy Sonata I(01:07:32) Allan Zavod(01:23:52) Cosmology projects, teaching improvisation(01:23:52) meditation and teaching

The Marvelous McBroom Sisters: Marsha, Dana, Lorelei, Durga...Forces of Nature! Marsha was a model extradinare and is a great educator and humanitarian; Dana an educator at Fashion Institute of Technology in NY, Author of Grace Jones's " Pull Up to the Bumper" and an actress in "Leadbelly"; Lorelei Background Singer with Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Rod Stewart and creator of a new YouTube Video Show "Who Influenced You"?; Durga, Background Singer with Pink Floyd, Blue Pearl, Songwriter and an accomplished actress. Simply a marvelous not to be missed episode.

Bambini generati al computer cantano a Bono di aiutarli a emigrare in Irlanda e gli chiedono di ascoltare Itamar Ben-Gvir (Otzma Yehudit): è "Gaza to Ireland", il video con cui il ministro israeliano della Sicurezza nazionale, secondo il Jerusalem Post, ha risposto su X al cantante degli U2, che lunedì su Rolling Stone aveva paragonato la sua retorica a quella di Heinrich Himmler. Bono si riferiva a quanto Ben-Gvir disse ad agosto all'ex ostaggio Rom Braslavski: a Gaza ci sono persone che non meritano di vivere, «non sono nemmeno persone». Il ministro ha aggiunto la proposta, "aiutateli a trasferirsi in Irlanda", e a chi parte ha promesso "un futuro meraviglioso". Il futuro, a Gaza, si seppellisce. Martedì nel campo profughi di Nuseirat si è tenuto un funerale collettivo per i resti di quasi 50 persone, estratti dalle macerie di edifici distrutti quasi tre anni fa, e Areej Farajallah ha raccontato all'Associated Press che la settimana prima erano state ritrovate due ossa del marito. E seppelliva anche suo figlio. Israele del resto tiene fuori i mezzi pesanti per scavare. L'International Association of Genocide Scholars, che il 31 agosto 2025 ha stabilito che le politiche di Israele a Gaza rientrano nella definizione giuridica di genocidio, contava già allora migliaia di sepolti sotto le macerie. A Tunisi Ghassan Boughdiri, uno dei quattro organizzatori della Global Sumud Flotilla detenuti a Mornaguia, è in sciopero della fame da tre settimane e da domenica rifiuta anche l'acqua. È svenuto prima di vedere la madre, riferiscono la Flotilla e The New Arab. L'Irlanda ha già deciso: il 5 giugno ha vietato l'ingresso a Ben-Gvir e a Bezalel Smotrich, perché le loro dichiarazioni, disse il primo ministro Micheál Martin, equivalgono in sostanza al desiderio di vedere eliminati i palestinesi dalla Palestina.#LaSveglia per La Notizia Diventa un supporter di questo podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/la-sveglia-di-giulio-cavalli--3269492/support.

Nothing says “credible music journalism” quite like blindly ranking ten legendary rock bands without knowing which one is coming next. Welcome to another comedy podcast from The Rizzuto Show, where Queen gets the throne, Metallica becomes the baseline for civilization, and somehow The Beatles end up staring directly at KISS's backside.We kick things off with a blind ranking of some of the biggest rock bands ever: Metallica, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, Nirvana, Guns N' Roses, Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles and KISS. The rules are simple: once you place a band, you're stuck with it. Naturally, this creates an absolutely flawless list that no music fan could possibly have an issue with.Just kidding. It's a disaster.Metallica lands at number five and becomes the dividing line for the entire exercise. The Rolling Stones climb toward the top, AC/DC gets placed too low and immediately causes regret, Queen claims number one, and then The Beatles arrive after almost all the good spots have disappeared. The result? The Beatles finish DEAD LAST behind KISS.Music historians, please direct your complaints somewhere else. We have enough going on.That leads to a bigger Beatles debate as Rafe argues that the band deserves enormous credit for what they changed, but that doesn't mean everybody has to automatically put them at number one. Moon attempts to defend civilization. Lern reveals she does not suffer from “Beatle boner mania.” Somehow Michael McDonald becomes the secret fifth Beatle. This is why nobody lets us curate the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.Speaking of legendary musicians, the crew gets into the backlash surrounding a George Michael tribute featuring performers including Teddy Swims and Sombr. Some viewers were furious with the choices, while the show tries to determine what exactly would have made everybody happy. Adam Lambert gets some love, Andrew Ridgeley's name is miraculously remembered, and Riz discovers his biggest problem with Sombr may simply be that somebody stole the “E” from his name.Then Rafe's birthday completely takes over the studio.The crew surprises him with a brand-new grill for his new house, which immediately raises the question of whether they can fire it up inside the studio. For legal reasons and continued access to oxygen, the answer appears to be no.But the grill is only the beginning. Rafe gets a personal birthday message from Rick of Rick's Ace Hardware — whom Rafe immediately embraces as his new father — along with an Ace bucket loaded with homeowner supplies. It turns out Rafe's previous love for the store traveled up the Ace Hardware corporate ladder and was even shared at a company convention. That's right: Rafe somehow became an Ace Hardware influencer without even trying. Take that, every 22-year-old making sponsored TikToks.There are also homemade deviled eggs, handmade coasters featuring Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash and even Rafe's own dog, plus the discovery that Rafe shares a birthday with Monica Bellucci. At this point the man has a grill, deviled eggs, a bucket and Monica Bellucci spiritually connected to him through a calendar. There's nowhere left to go.And because this comedy podcast refuses to stay in one lane, Crap on Celebrities brings even more chaos: Slipknot and Marilyn Manson tour backlash, a Linkin Park documentary, Taylor Swift's former Beverly Hills home hitting the market, Diddy prison reports, Raven-Symoné revealing an extremely specific period routine, a Rick Wakeman concert for rescued bears, a heavy Matthew Perry documentary, and wildly divided reactions to a new Tom Cruise movie.There's rock history, birthday surprises, celebrity news, angry music fans and enough hardware-store enthusiasm to make a suburban dad shed a single tear into his freshly cut lawn.Happy birthday, Rafe. Here's a grill.Follow The Rizzuto Show → linktr.ee/rizzshow for more from your favorite daily comedy show.Connect with The Rizzuto Show Comedy Podcast online → 1057thepoint.com/RizzShow.Hear The Rizz Show daily on the radio at 105.7 The Point | Hubbard Radio in St. Louis, MO.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Episode 1026 marks the 18th anniversary of the 2008 financial crash by pointing out MAGA voters' selective amnesia about who was president when, then pivots to a Springfield civic meeting on election security that carefully documented every safeguard in Illinois elections while never once naming why the "controversy" exists in the first place. Driftglass and Blue Gal unpack Midwestern code phrases like "this isn't about Republicans and Democrats," showing how the same words mean belligerent deflection from a Republican and nervous conflict-avoidance from a Democrat, both serving to protect MAGA feelings from plain facts. The episode also covers Senator Eric Schmitt's spectacular self-own trying to nail Jack Smith with a mixed-up basketball game, and John Fetterman fundraising off Republican donor email lists that compare a Democratic Senate candidate to a terrorist. It's about the exhausting art of coaxing a skittish, dangerous animal into a pen without ever naming what it actually is.Links for this episode: Illinois Times Article: https://www.illinoistimes.com/news/officials-tackle-election-misinformation/Rolling Stone: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/eric-schmitt-botches-bid-corner-jack-smith-basketball-game-1235633725/Editorial Board: How the rightwing media can turn humiliation into victory https://www.editorialboard.com/how-the-rightwing-media-can-turn-humiliation-into-victory/Stay in Touch! Email: proleftpodcast@gmail.com Website: proleftpod.com Support via Patreon: patreon.com/proleftpod or Donate in the Venmo App @proleftpodMail: The Professional Left, PO Box 9133, Springfield, Illinois, 62791Support the show

Paul Rieckhoff joins the MSNBC table with Nikki McCann Ramirez of Rolling Stone and former Harris senior advisor Mike Nellis to break down the political sucking chest wound of Trump's Iran war — and how it is bleeding into every corner of the 2026 midterms. From Texas, where Republicans are burning nine figures to defend a state that was never supposed to be competitive, to Nebraska, Kansas, South Dakota, and Alaska, where independent veterans are running as kryptonite to GOP incumbents, this is the clearest read yet on why Trump is now more unpopular with true independents than Nixon at the height of Watergate. Then MSNBC Pentagon reporter Priya Sridher joins with exclusive reporting on the USS Lincoln, the carrier that just broke a modern deployment record, at least eight suicide attempts in the strike group, and a 19-year-old sailor charged with malingering after jumping overboard. Paul connects the dots: an abused force, an unauthorized war, a Pentagon purging 20% of its generals and admirals, and a political class — in both parties — that still hasn't figured out how to stop any of it. If you want to understand where the midterms actually turn, start here. -WATCH full video of this episode here. -Let Vets Vote: Millions of American veterans are being locked out of primary elections in the country they served. See what we're doing to change that. -Visit Kalshi and trade on anything. Use code INDEPENDENT to get $25 when you trade $25. -Head to cozyearth.com and use the code AMERICANS for an exclusive 20% off. -Join Noble Mobile today and get a $100 bonus when you use code PAUL and stay a member for 2 months! -Join IVA and help us get independent veterans elected to office. -Learn more about Paul's work to elect a new generation of independent leaders with Independent Veterans of America. -Learn more about American Veterans for Ukraine here. -Remember Independent is an Attitude. -Learn more about The Headstrong Project for Veterans, Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors (TAPS), and Department of Veterans Affairs resources in your area. Seeking support is not a sign of weakness. It's a show of strength. If you or a loved one are in immediate crisis, dial 988 and press 1, or text 838255. Connect with Independent Americans: Subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all podcast platforms Read more at Substack Support ad-free episodes at Patreon  Connect: Instagram  • X/Twitter • BlueSky • Facebook  Follow on social: @PaulRieckhoff on X, Instagram, Threads, and Bluesky -Join the movement. Hook into our exclusive Patreon community of Independent Americans. Get extra content, connect with guests, meet other Independent Americans, attend events, get merch discounts, and support this show that speaks truth to power.  -And get cool IA and Righteous hats, t-shirts and other merch now in time for the new year.  Independent Americans is powered by veteran-owned and led Righteous Media.  And now part of the BLEAV network!  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Send us Fan MailWelcome to Guess the Year: 90s Edition! This is an interactive, competitive podcast series where you will be able to play along and compete against your fellow listeners. Here is how the scoring works:10 pts - dead on7 pts - 1 year off6 pts - call bluff4 pts - 2 years off1 pt - 3 years off0 pts - 4 or more years offGuesses can be emailed to drandrewmay@gmail.com or texted using the link at the top of the show notes (please leave your name).I will read your scores out before the next episode, along with the scores of your fellow listeners! Please email your guesses to Andrew no later than 12pm EST on the day the next episode posts if you want them read out on the episode (e.g., if an episode releases on Monday, then I need your guesses by 12pm EST on Wednesday; if an episode releases on Friday, then I need your guesses by 12 pm EST on Monday). Note: If you don't get your scores in on time, they will still be added to the overall scores I am keeping. So they will count for the final scores - in other words, you can catch up if you get behind, you just won't have your scores read out on the released episode. All I need is your guesses (e.g., Song 1 - 199x, Song 2 - call bluff, Song 3 - 199x, etc.). Please be honest with your guesses! Best of luck!!.....The answers to today's ten songs can be found below. If you are playing along, don't scroll down until you have made your guesses. .....Have you made your guesses yet? If so, you can scroll down and look at the answers......Okay, answers coming. Don't peek if you haven't made your guesses yet!.....Intro song: Saint of Me by The Rolling Stones (1997)Song 1: Oops... I Did It Again by Britney Spears (2000)Song 2: There She Goes by The La's (1988)Song 3: If You Could Only See by Tonic (1996)Song 4: Mr. Jones by Counting Crows (1993)Song 5: Whatcha Gonna Do? by Jayo Felony & Method Man & DMX (1998)Song 6: Gamin' On Ya by People Under the Stairs (2008)Song 7: This Is How We Do It by Montell Jordan (1995)Song 8: All 4 Love by Color Me Badd (1991)Song 9: Did Ya by The Kinks (1991)Song 10: Go Away by Weezer (2014)

After loving his debut single “Aim High”, we're thrilled to be back with Mike Denardo for round two, and "I Won't," released August 28th, 2026, continues to show off exactly why he's an artist worth following closely. This is a heartfelt, melody driven love song that wears its Beatles influence proudly while still carving out something distinctly his own.There's a really charming story behind how this track came together. The melody actually arrived long before any lyrics did, sitting on the shelf for months until inspiration finally struck during one of Denardo's yearly themed recording projects, past ones having included tributes to bands like The Rolling Stones. This time, the spark came from a playful twist on the Beatles' classic "I Will," and that little bit of wordplay eventually grew into "I Won't," a song that flips the sentiment into its own timeless declaration of devotion.

"You have to point out these are the things that people were willing to look past because he was so charismatic, because he gave people great opportunities..."Cheyenne RoundtreeInvestigative journalist Cheyenne Roundtree joins Nadine Matheson to discuss her debut book Bad Boy for Life, a comprehensive look at the rise and fall of Sean "Diddy" Combs. Drawing on three years of reporting, over 100 interviews, and six weeks sitting in the federal courtroom, Cheyenne breaks down what the public saw versus what was happening behind closed doors, from the Cassie Ventura lawsuit to the criminal trial, the emotional complexity of the victims' testimony, and the broader questions about accountability, fandom, and institutional protection.Cheyenne Roundtree is an investigative reporter at Rolling Stone. She co-authored the magazine's landmark investigation into Sean "Diddy" Combs alongside colleague Nancy Dillon, published shortly after the hotel surveillance video of Combs attacking Cassie Ventura became public. Bad Boy for Life is her first book. Her work focuses on long-form investigative reporting, and she has spent nearly three years covering the Combs story from the initial allegations through the federal criminal trial.Buy 'Bad Boy for Life'Follow Cheyenne RoundtreeBuy the Book: The Shadow CarverBuy me a cup of coffee ☕️ | Buy books by my guestsFollow Me Bluesky | Substack | Instagram | Facebook | Threads Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this episode of Talking Guitars on Johnny Beane TV, we're talking about Cheap Trick guitar legend Rick Nielsen and the incredible collection of guitars he's putting up for auction — including one of the wildest guitars ever built!

On the day he retires from Goodby Silverstein & Partners, co-founder Rich Silverstein joins That's What I Call Marketing to reflect on 40 years in advertising, the making of ‘Got Milk?' and what makes an idea last. Rich takes us back to the early days of the agency, when a project for Electronic Arts helped turn a group of creatives who wanted to do things their own way into a business. We get into the thinking behind ‘Got Milk?', the E*TRADE monkey ad and the lizards, and ask whether work made for a different media era could be even more powerful today. Rich is candid about the role of craft, humour and client confidence, as well as his concern that AI could make it easier to settle for work that is merely good enough.In this episode, we cover:– How Rich, Jeff Goodby and Andy Berlin started the agency, and what they took from their time with Hal Riney– The simple truth behind ‘Got Milk?' and how its words and distinctive look came together– Why the best campaigns build a brand over time, rather than end with one commercial– What it takes to sell an unusual idea when more people want a say in the work– Rich's mixed feelings about AI, and how he is using it to develop a musical– Why he tells young creatives to study the world and the people in itA useful listen for marketers interested in brand building, creative effectiveness, advertising craft, agency relationships and AI in marketing.That's What I Call Marketing is the podcast for marketers who care about brand, B2B, creativity, effectiveness and the future of the profession.Follow the show for more conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, agency leaders, professors, authors, thinkers and practitioners.Find more episodes at: https://www.thatswhaticallmarketing.comTimestamps00:00 – Rich Silverstein and 40 years in advertising10:01 – Hal Riney, Electronic Arts and starting Goodby Silverstein & Partners14:28 – Bringing design, journalism and craft together15:25 – Why Rich skips most advertising16:31 – AI and the danger of “good enough”21:46 – What editorial design and Rolling Stone taught him24:05 – Why great work should still hold up years later24:26 – The story behind ‘Got Milk?'26:00 – The E*TRADE monkey ad28:37 – Creative constraints and the need for confident clients30:36 – The lizards and building a brand over time33:15 – Using humour to make an idea last36:32 – Selling ambitious work and working with clients37:39 – Research, planning and creative collaboration40:37 – The ideas Rich loved but could not sell41:59 – 13 Days, his musical project, and using AI to make it46:47 – Advice for creatives starting an agency today49:19 – Why the ideas come faster, but selling them remains hard51:51 – The advertising Rich still admires52:46 – Mentors, observation and studying the worldThanks to Tracksuit for partnering with That's What I Call Marketing. Find out more about its always-on brand tracking platform at https://www.gotracksuit.com.That's What I Call Marketing is where marketers come for real conversations about brand, B2B, creativity, effectiveness and the future of the profession.Hosted by Conor Byrne, the show features conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, agency leaders, authors, thinkers and practitioners about what good marketing looks like in practice.Listen, follow and find more episodes at: https://www.thatswhaticallmarketing.comConnect with Conor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorbyrneirl/If you enjoy the show, please follow, subscribe and leave a review. It helps more marketers find the conversations. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Blondshell joins Angie Martoccio and Leah Lu in The Rolling Stone Studio to talk about her brand new album, 'Violins,' and why she felt compelled to put out a new project after releasing one last year: "I really hate sitting on songs and not doing anything with them. I think I have a subconscious fear that they'll go away or I'll lose the excitement around the song." She also chats about the music she's enjoying these days (Charli XCX, Slayyyter, Life Without Buildings), the type of vibe she'd curate at her wedding, and plays FMK: nostalgia, the moment, the passage of time. "It's become very trendy to hate nostalgia. I love it," she says. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we are joined by Ellen O'Clover! Ellen O'Clover is the author of If Not You, The Heartbreak Hotel, and other stories for teens and adults. Her books have been selected for Book of the Month, appeared in outlets like NPR and Rolling Stone, and been nominated for multiple states' book awards. She lives in a little green house under a giant aspen tree near Boulder, Colorado, with her rocket scientist husband and two perfect bulldogs.In this episode, Ellen discusses her journey from copy writing to romance novels, the importance of authentic storytelling, and the themes of friendship, love, and self-doubt in her latest book 'If Not You.' She shares insights on writing for different age groups, her creative process, and her experiences balancing her career and personal life. Recommendations From This Episode: How To Lose A Guy In 10 DaysGreat Big Beautiful Life Follow Ellen: @ellenocloverFollow Carly: @carlyjmontagFollow Emily: @thefunnywalshFollow the podcast: @aloneatlunchpodPlease rate and review the podcast! Spread the word! Tell your friends! Email us: aloneatlunch@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Joseph J. Romm (1960–2026) was an MIT-trained physicist who became one of the most prominent voices in the U.S. climate movement after serving as Acting Assistant Secretary for Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy at the U.S. Department of Energy in the 1990s.  He founded the Climate Progress blog, authored ten books—including The Hype About Hydrogen and Hell and High Water—and was named a Time “Hero of the Environment” and one of Rolling Stone's “100 People Who Are Changing America” in 2009.  Later, as a Senior Fellow at the University of Pennsylvania's Penn Center for Science, Sustainability, and the Media, Romm continued to challenge what he regarded as dead-end technologies and costly distractions, including hydrogen, carbon offsets, and carbon capture.   Romm died unexpectedly at the age of 66 on September 14, 2026, in Washington, D.C.  Michael Barnard and Joe shared a long history of friendship and collaboration, strengthened by a memorable conversation 18 months ago following the release of the second edition of Joe's seminal book, The Hype About Hydrogen.  That conversation between Joe and Michael was a fascinating and uniquely candid dialogue about the real solutions to climate change—and about technologies they believed risked diverting attention and investment from more effective pathways, including hydrogen, carbon capture and storage (CCS), direct air carbon capture (DAC), and some proposed approaches to green steel.Joe had an extraordinary influence on the climate and energy-transition debate over the past three decades. His rigorous analysis, willingness to challenge conventional wisdom, and ability to communicate complex energy issues shaped the way many of us think about the transition to a clean-energy economy.  He will be deeply missed. He will not be forgotten.  

What if your AI strategy is creating more risk than progress? John Willis joins Andrew Stotz to trace how Deming's System of Profound Knowledge shaped the way he thinks about organizations, learning, and change. From his early days building DevOps to the AI transformations he's navigating with CIOs today. Along the way, John connects Deming to fast feedback loops, explains why leaders keep mistaking a learning problem for a technology problem, and shares stories that never made it into his book, Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge.   A fresh conversation for longtime Deming thinkers and those just beginning the journey.   TRANSCRIPT 0:00:02.0 Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today I'm here with featured guest, John Willis. John, how are you doing?   0:00:15.7 John Willis: Great, Andrew. I was just thinking, I feel like that song, like I got my picture on the cover of Rolling Stone. Like, I'm on the Deming Institute podcast. Yay.   [laughter]   0:00:24.9 Andrew Stotz: We finally got you on.   0:00:27.8 John Willis: Yeah, yeah.   0:00:30.3 Andrew Stotz: Actually been a while and I wanna introduce you just briefly and then I'll let you do a little bit more of the introduction. But basically on Amazon, a book popped up and I was just looking at the date of that. That book popped up on, for me, it popped up on September 6, 2023 on Audible and I immediately bought it and I got the Audible book and the book's called 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge. How Deming Helped Win a War, Altered the Face of Industry, and Holds the Key to Our Future'. And I immediately got it. Didn't know you, listened to it, loved it. Later you reached out on LinkedIn and we started communicating and you were kind enough to send a copy of it, which I then went through in more detail. I love the book. I really highly recommend the Audible version because it's just fun. Because the book is opening up a whole new Deming lens, a whole new way from somebody that never met Deming, and I just found that fascinating. So maybe why don't you take a moment and introduce yourself to the audience so that people know who you are, where you've been, what you've been doing and what you're doing now?   0:01:41.4 John Willis: Yeah, no, no, great. I... So, yeah, I... I've been doing technology, usually high consequence business, regulated industry, banks, retail, the biggest of the bigs, where the technology is incredibly important. Right? And I've been doing five decades of basic technology transformations, and I'm kind of the person who gets bored real easy. So I've literally gone through, like, you name it, mainframe, centralized computing, client server, distributed computing, priority systems, the Linux Open systems, you know, owned infrastructure cloud, and I'm consider one of the founders of the DevOps movement. And now today, like the cliché that I am, I've been doing a lot of organizational strategy on AI. So I don't come in and tell you how to turn 4,000 developers into AI coders. I kind of tell your CIOs to slow down. Wait a minute. So, yeah, so my day job today is I'm... I think these days finally in my life I would call myself an author first. I've written a number of books. The one you did, I had... My last book was a history of 100 history, 100 Year History of AI. And... But I'm an advisor, so I sort of... I take inbounds. I don't really look for work. Usually it's a chief of staff for a CIO who either has worked with me in the past and hey John, we're underwater with AI. Can you come in? Or they hear something I've said or I do a lot of podcasts and then I'm sort of a quasi investor. Although I probably should listen to your stuff a little better because I'm typically... I'm one of those guys that like, if I invest in it, you go short on it right away. So... [laughter] But yeah. But, yeah, no, so... But my day job today is really, is doing research. I'm actually just sure, this probably opened up a whole another discussion. Maybe later but I'm writing a book about the history of quantum computing right now and that's been just fascinating. So...   0:03:41.7 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:03:41.8 John Willis: But my day job is helping CIOs and large high consequence organizations try to shuffle through technology transformations.   0:03:50.7 Andrew Stotz: And for the audience there that didn't catch what you were saying at the beginning, it kind of dated you because you were talking about the song called Rolling Stone by Dr. Hook.   0:03:59.9 John Willis: Yeah, yeah, totally.   0:04:01.3 Andrew Stotz: Dr. Hook published this in about 1972. And here are the lyrics. "Wanna see my picture on the cover? Wanna buy five copies for my mother? Wanna see my smiling face on the cover of Rolling Stone?" So here...   0:04:12.8 John Willis: Totally. Yeah. There you go. Deming Institute. Yeah, no, great.   0:04:16.7 Andrew Stotz: And one of the things that I found fascinating was just how you came to Deming from a very different angle. I was lucky enough that my boss at Pepsi sent me to study with him and I did two different seminars. The last one was in 1992. So I was 24, he was 92, was gonna live about one more year. I had... I could literally reach out and touch the man and hold his hand and sit next to him. I got a great picture of me sitting next to him. And I was just a young guy with a fresh mind compared to the 500 guys behind me that were older that he was bashing at times. But tell us a little bit about how you stumbled upon this topic and why you decided to do what you did with writing the book?   0:05:03.7 John Willis: Yeah, no, it's sort of interesting. I sort of say that for the first, I don't know, probably from 1980, my first job was running five distributed large computer systems for Exxon Research and Production, basically the geophysics work, right, during the most hottest period of the oil industry. And there were people doing that part of variation and understanding, but that didn't sort of hit my world. I was supporting geophysical processing and then so I rolled into other jobs. And then probably the closest I came... So in other words, I'm dealing with a lot of these major transformations and always focusing on the meta side, like the organizational. What are the things that are wrong? How do we fix the human and technology? There's a phrase called sociotechnical systems, right? And that's always where I've been most interested. And then even I was at GE Capital and I'll say this with all honesty, I was a Green Belt, but they gave out Green Belts for Six Sigma, [laughter] right? My wife was actually a Black Belt. And... But we would do... And I know Deming hated Six Sigma and all that, but we were doing... It was all around me, right? And then it wasn't until really the DevOps age that we really... That was a major shift in my career because before everything was sort of first generational from a technology or sociotechnical system, very command control, you sort of you installed software in a certain way. There were so many principles that were being broken by DevOps. And I was already an older guy at that point, but I was learning from these young kids and I'm known as the person who introduced DevOps to the US.   0:06:52.3 John Willis: And... But so there is where we started going back and understanding... We thought everything was new. We were creating DevOps, we were doing all this crazy awesome stuff. And I remember a friend of mine, well, a good friend of mine wrote a book called 'The Phoenix Project' by Gene Kim and it's a rewrite of Eliyahu Goldratt's 'The Goal'. And I was like, oh my God. And I read all of Goldratt's books and I was like, okay, this is the way, this is the way. I've seen a glimpse of some 30 or 40 year knowledge that I was missing. And then it was an open space seminar. A good friend of mine says, "John, you know." and I'm going off about Goldratt and he's like, "You know this all goes back to Deming." I'm like, "Who's Deming?" I'm like, "I just spent a year learning everything I could about Goldratt. He is my North Star. And now you're telling me..." And he challenged me. He said, "John, I'll leave it at this. You go read Deming's 14 Points and if you don't... I know you. I know what you're gonna do once you do that." And he was spot on. That was it. I was... And I don't... I'm more into the Profound Knowledge and we could talk a little bit about my journey there. But I was like, oh my goodness, this is the real and I love Eliyahu Goldratt and I love 'The Goal' and I love all his books. But Deming was hitting... Was like punching me right square in the face.   0:08:12.0 Andrew Stotz: So to what gap did it close for you? I mean, Goldratt is very specific about the main limiting point...   0:08:23.2 John Willis: Yeah.   0:08:23.3 Andrew Stotz: The bottleneck, how do we solve this?   0:08:25.6 John Willis: So the 14 Points, sort of one of the jokes is that it's mandatory to put the 14 Points in a DevOps presentation. So we were doing that dance a little bit, but then when I got a little serious about it, actually me and Gene Kim, we did a book. Goldratt has this book called 'Beyond the Goal'. It's an audio-only book, right? And I convinced Gene about five years after he had written 'The Phoenix Project' to do a Beyond the Phoenix Project. And so he did Goldratt, I did Deming. And at that point, I knew enough about Deming to say, "Okay let's..." And then we talked about DevOps and the principles of Lean and we did... I always, when somebody says they bought that audiobook, I'm like, "Oh, you're the 15th person that bought it." right? But it sold more than that. But the... But that's when Gene tapped me on the shoulder and did that. We went to the studio. It was a highlight of my life, literally going to the studio with Gene and literally recording for a couple of weeks. And he's like, "John, you really need to write a book about Dr. Deming." And then I started building a folder. And then the crash course then or the trajectory at that point not really crash course is that you realize the 14 Points are, no disrespect, but vaguely interesting. You're like, "Okay, Mount Everest is System of Profound Knowledge." Right? Because that's the mount... And that's the one where you're like, "Okay, I read 'Out of the Crisis', I think I get it, the 14 Points make sense, but like, what is this stuff he's talking about here?" Right? And then you read 'New Economics' and it's like, "I still..." And then, so for me then, it was, I'm just one of these person like I have... And again, I'm not trying to make myself look like I'm special, but I have to learn. I can't... I'm the worst person in a... If I was in your class, you'd kick me out of your class because I'd be sitting in the front row and you'd be, "Oh no, not you again."   0:09:26.2 Andrew Stotz: Another question.   0:10:26.9 John Willis: Yeah I know just another question. I mean, I've been cut off by professors and... But the... I'm like, "All right, I got to get to the bottom of this." And that was almost a 10-year journey for me of... I had to know. Because it was clear to me that Profound Knowledge or System of Profound Knowledge was not something he invented out of thin air. Like, I had to figure out, where did he get this? And that started the genesis of how I was gonna write the book, which is the journey, 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge'. And that sort of took me into... And what that did, while I was learning that, of course, Deming opened the door to guys like Russell Ackoff and Ashby and just all these other sort of management thinkers and even Drucker or whatever, right? They all sort of started filling out a palette. But meanwhile, I'm still driving hard on Deming. And what that gentleman said to me, good friend of mine, Ben Rockwood, who I give tribute in the book, is when he said to me, almost like tapped me on the head, like, "John, John, John, it all goes back to Deming." Like, you start seeing the clarity of DevOps, Lean, Agile, it all had these things. And so I spent literally a long time really trying to figure out, okay, how did Deming get... We all know variation is relatively simple to understand where he got that from, right? Shewhart's work and all that stuff. And I'm not trivializing the impact of what he did for it, but knowledge was interesting. And knowledge I had to go to pragmatism. You had to understand what C.I. Lewis is. And that's a book that Deming said he had to read seven times.   0:12:03.1 Andrew Stotz: He had to read it seven times...there's no hope for me.   [overlapping conversation]   0:12:05.2 John Willis: That's right. No, actually I did Tom Sawyer. I have a friend who's one of the smartest people I know. He's like, "I'll read that." And he explained it to me. But and then I read it. But so knowledge, this sort of, how do we understand? How do we know what we think we really know, right? That whole epistemology and all that. To me, this is like sort of, just give me more, right? And see more and feed me. And then system thinking was interesting, appreciation for system, because then that got me back to, okay, and there was some missing links there. And I found that one of the guys who came up with General Systems Theory, von Bertalanffy, him and yeah, Ackoff. Him and Ackoff had sat in a seminar of his like in the '40s and so there was some influence there. And there's a lot of work that's been going on in systems thinking after him. But so then I got that and then the psychology is tough, right? But so I put all that together. And then my... The thing I was telling you earlier is, when I do the research for a project like this, I read everything that there is about it. So my AI book, I read 25 books on AI, history of AI. I'm up to like 10 books on the history of quantum computing.   0:13:23.4 John Willis: With Deming, I've read every book that's been written by Deming, at least the ones that I know of, right? And one of the things I noticed, the pattern was that they all... Again, I'm just simplifying it. They all started off with a little bit about the biography, some a little longer than others, but in general, most of the book was about the management theory. And it was really a book that was being sold as a business book more than it was as a biography. And one of the things I've always loved about Michael Lewis or that sort of story of nonfiction storytelling is he tells a biography, it's a disguised biography and I thought, my God this... And as I kept compiling over the years all these great stories, you know, the Doris Quinn story, right? The woman who, she went to New Guinea and Deming... Spent the last two years of her life with Deming. I mean, most of the people that are Deming disciples didn't even know about this woman. And she spent the last two years of life traveling with him. So I met her and interviewed her. And the stories, you know Hawthorne, and there was such... It wasn't just that, I love the idea of trying to explain how he got to management theory and epistemology, how did he get to the science of variation? That's all good stuff. But I wanted the stories, and the stories were just glorious. As you enjoyed the book, right?   0:14:52.4 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:14:53.3 John Willis: I think that was the fun part of not just explaining the sort of tech, if you will, but it was the, like the, oh my God, this... I've got to... I had three chapters like six years before I wrote the book.   0:15:06.9 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. Well, here's chapter 15. And you say, "Being a student of Deming, I came across an untold firsthand account of a beautiful story from one of his acolytes, a woman named Doris Quinn," who you're talking about.   0:15:20.0 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah.   0:15:20.2 Andrew Stotz: And... But the... I also had marked a section related to talking about the final days, saying...   0:15:29.7 John Willis: Yeah.   0:15:29.8 Andrew Stotz: "Doris said he was a very, very driven man. He went nonstop. I remember one time we were in Kansas City and a reporter asked him, "Dr. Deming, when are you going to retire?" And the master said, "Why would I do that?" "Well, so you can do what you want." the reporter said."   0:15:45.7 John Willis: Yeah, yeah, yeah.   0:15:46.4 Andrew Stotz: "Dr. Deming looked at him and said, "I am doing what I want."   0:15:50.2 John Willis: Yeah. You know what I love about her? There's a really good book from Amazon called 'Working Backwards'. And they tell us... The guys who wrote it were pretty high up early on in Amazon. They tell the story how if they traveled with Bezos and you didn't have a whole set of questions on the plane ride, you got in trouble. And so Doris Quinn tells that story, how she literally, she tells the story of how she traveled with him and he's like, "Doris, what other questions do you have for me?" And if she didn't have one, he'd get mad at her. He wouldn't talk to her. They'd have to wait a day because normally they'd go and have gin together. But if she didn't have questions... And some of it's in the book, some of it was in conversations had... He'd literally get mad at her and not talk to her for the rest of the day [laughter] because she didn't have any questions. You got to love that, right?   0:16:39.2 Andrew Stotz: And you also did a little follow-on about more stories that you didn't get in the book, I believe.   0:16:48.1 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah.   0:16:48.2 Andrew Stotz: Tell us about that.   0:16:50.1 John Willis: Well, so I wrote the DevOps Handbook, right? And that was a collaboration with four other authors and took us six years to write it. So my wife says, "What parts did you write?" I'm like, I don't know, man. There were a lot of parts that went in and out and moved around when you have four authors, and it was really a very techie book. So 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge' was really the first book where I literally... It was my book. And so I had written the book. In fact, my favorite story, and Doris Quinn is a great story, my favorite one was... It was basically called The Devil Wears Prada. And so, and Kevin... I don't think Kevin, his mother even knew this when we were talking that his grandmother literally was... I mean, I think they knew that she worked for the pre-BLS, she was a statistical mathematician and all that.   0:17:45.3 Andrew Stotz: Right.   0:17:45.4 John Willis: But after the war, she worked before she... I don't know if she met Deming, but she certainly wasn't married to him, Dr. Deming. She worked on the mail-order business was getting all these returns for women's sizing. And so whatever the pre-BLS was, Bureau of Labor Statistics, commissioned her to do a study. And she's the one who invented women's sizings. Because before, they didn't really have all the different measurements. So she ran a whole statistical study. And so today... So I use the whole story of the Anne Hathaway, the 14 is the new seven and all. So I start that off. Anyway, so I go to my publisher and my editor, who I love, she'd already knocked out a lot of stories, but this is the one where, "You're not taking this story from me. You're not... This one is not." And then she's so good, she'll be like, "John, let me ask you this. Does it fit the arc?" By this point, she understands System of Profound Knowledge, she's read my book quite a bit, and she says, "Does it fit the arc of System of Profound Knowledge?" "Uh, I hate you." And I took it out. And then she said, "Well, why don't you make a blog post out of it?" And I'm like, "Oh, no. I'm gonna make another book." And I took all the stories we cut out and I called them Profound Stories. And yeah, so...   0:19:06.6 Andrew Stotz: And for the listeners and viewers, you can get it on Kindle and then you can read the stories. And I think for the Deming community, that's one of the best parts about this whole thing, is just there's no great collection of stories that has an arc to it, as you said. So I enjoy that. I wanna also... It'd be interesting to understand how your thinking has progressed about Deming, because obviously you talk about this introduction phase where you got to know him, then you have this intense phase that you seem to have a knack for, then you write the book, you have all the excitement about that, but you're on to other things.   0:19:46.8 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   0:19:46.9 Andrew Stotz: And there are remnants of Deming that remain with you, but there's others that have fallen by the wayside. Maybe they're not as critical as you may have thought or... I'm just curious, how does the Deming thinking unfold in your life now?   0:19:59.7 John Willis: I... It's become sort of a fabric. So, and I wanna get back to that, but I do wanna say one thing... I'm so... Whenever somebody tells me the story that they met Deming, I have two reactions. One is the hair on my skin, my arms go up thinking, "Oh, I wish that was me." But then the other one is like, I'm sure he would have yelled at me and got mad at me. Because he would basically be like, "That's a stupid question, Mr. Willis." So I have this fantasy of which way it would go. But anyway. Yeah, the question around what do I think now? I think, so if you go back to the narrative, he... And it's hard not to be a sycophant of Deming, right? But I am a sycophant of Deming, but I try not to be. And... But even in the book, I tried not to be a sycophant, right? I went out of my way. But so when I say this, Deming was in my DNA before I even knew who he was, right? Like at Exxon, at GE Capital, the Six Sigma stuff. And again, I understand for people listening, oh, the Six Sigma went the wrong direction, but it originally was stemmed from a lot of his ideas. And so it was there. So it was sort of foundational, and he was the lighthouse to put it in... And then System of Profound Knowledge became the taxonomy for me for this stuff that was in my DNA. And so in one way, there is this thing where you move on to a new transformation. And we're in one right now. We've been in one. I've been in one for five years now, which is with the AI. And again, same thing for me is it's not about the AI, it's organizational behavior, organizational patterns, what is the sociotechnical science behind how do you do these things?   0:21:48.4 John Willis: But so you forget... I always say technology shifts are like fluorescence. People use the metaphor of like spring and winter, like AI winter, AI spring, and they've used it for other things than AI. And that's sort of like a rebirth. The fluorescence is good because it's like an energy. It's always rolling forward. It just gets a fluorescence bright glow periodically. And so what the problem with the metaphor works for me because the energy is there, and the energy are the patterns that are consistent. The fluorescence is the blinding effect. So back to like, did anything fall off the wayside with Deming? Yes, for a little bit. Because in 20... Basically I started playing with the early versions of GPT, the OpenAI models, back at version two, and that was like around 2020, right? Even before ChatGPT, right? So that whole experience before we started even thinking about what this was gonna look like at a large-scale bank was fluorescence. Like I'm not thinking anything about Deming from 2020 to 2023. In 2023, 2024, I start getting asked to come into some of my larger clients. And I'm following it too, and I'm sort of... I'm starting to become aware that this is becoming... In fact, I'm pretty sure in the grand scheme of things that don't matter in the grand scheme, I'm pretty sure I got first use on shadow AI, in an article I wrote in like 2022 or 2021, right?   0:23:27.2 John Willis: So I had already been recognizing there's a problem pattern here. We got the shadow IT with the cloud stuff, now the shadow AI, and I could see this steamrolling happening so... And then I started getting called in organizations, and then I still was the wayside of the Deming. Like, I didn't walk in going, "Hey, I'm gonna hit the punching bag with Deming." I was coming in trying to figure out what do I know about patterns with this fluorescence metaphor that are new and shiny, and what are the things that are old that have been relevant for the five decades and the six transform... At least six transformations I've been through that are common in everyone. And I started seeing that. And then what was funny, as I'd be writing and researching with AI, it knew so much about me that even as early as like 2024, I had loaded in my Deming book. In fact, one of the ways I learned AI is I took the 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge' and I turned it into an augmented general retrieval, or what they call RAG database. So I learned a lot about AI because I knew what my book was, and I could validate what was hallucinations.   0:24:36.3 John Willis: Anyway, but it knew enough about me. And then what it would periodically do, it would say, "Would you like Deming's version of this?" I'm like, "Yeah, I would love that." And then I... It started refreshing my memory of what the real context going back to my friend Ben Rockwood, it all goes back to Deming. And so now it's actually on the... It's more than ever, it's on the forefront because I'm being brought into major brand organizations that are seemingly failing on AI at the institutional, organizational level. And there's not a line of these people. In fact, most of them don't wanna talk to me because they don't wanna hear what I got to say, which is slow down. And I'm okay with the ones that don't wanna hear that because I don't really wanna work with them anyway. But now I'm seeing with absolute clarity two things. One is it all goes back to Deming, and all the problems that we're seeing can be classified in Profound Knowledge.   0:25:37.1 Andrew Stotz: Tell us more about that. Because for those people that... There's so many different components. When I got introduced to Deming, it was the 14 Points, 'Out of the Crisis'. And then I left America in 1992, so I wasn't there for 'New Economics'. And it... And I did other stuff for 20 years, 15 years, and then I found New Economics. It's like, "Wow, this is different from that."   0:25:53.1 John Willis: Yeah.   0:26:09.1 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, so between the deadly diseases, the 14 Points, the System of Profound Knowledge, there's so many parts to this.   0:26:15.9 John Willis: No, I've got... Yeah, I definitely got. And I'll tie it right back to the... In 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge', I tell the story of Knight Capital. And Knight Capital is an interesting... It was the second highest high-frequency trading, black box, latency arbitrage on the NYSE. A sysadmin made a configuration error. They lost $450 million and don't quote me on the exact numbers, but like 450 million in 45 minutes. They were arbitraged at billions of dollars. They were literally out of business with a cease and desist from the SEC. And I always tell people, like, that's the last thing you want if you have a business is a cease and desist from the SEC, right? And at that point, we would say things like the consequences are high on how you think about humans and technology. Well, guess what, sports fans? Knight Capital is a drop in the bucket of what we're gonna start seeing with AI. We are going to see these... And there's the Equifax breach, there's all the... We're gonna see non-survival. I mean, Knight Capital didn't survive. Equifax lost five billion market cap in a week and then recovered all of it, right? But I'm saying there's been some major brand recognition problems pre-AI. You're not going to be able to survive these with the power...   [overlapping conversation]   0:27:41.7 Andrew Stotz: Abilities are gonna be shaken out.   0:27:43.6 John Willis: Yeah. I mean, and the brand damage. Brand damage by the escape routes of how... I mean, let me just step and I wanna go back to answer your question. But one of the things that people don't recognize right now is the machine that we have now has infinite knowledge at machine speed, and it's probabilistic. I mean, just add those three things up, that it has the ability of infinite knowledge, something no human could even close to. So it'll make decisions, it will escape, it will figure ways out, it will try a clever way to do something that probably no human would do that could be a disaster. Right? So the consequences are incredibly high. So then now, okay, let's really dust off: it all goes back to Deming's stuff. And so to your question, I think that I would love to see, like, you write a fantasy novel about how Deming came back to the future and was sitting here listening to what was going on, and he'd be screaming. He'd be telling everybody... And this is the thing I'm... I don't scream, I'm too old these days, but like, I literally cut off a CIO real quick in my conversation. I interview a CIO, they think they're interviewing me, I'm interviewing them. And if I'm like, "Yeah, no, you know what? This isn't right." "Well, what do you mean, John? We had..." "No, no, no."   0:29:09.1 John Willis: Because I can see right away that what the CIO or the leadership is... They think AI is a technology transformation. It's an organizational learning transformation. Deming would see this and scream this out loud. And that's the part of the blinding fluorescence that we're missing. We should know this by now, right? And so all these technology shifts, they think they're technology revolutions. They're really... I mean, they go back to the basics. What are the systems are they changing? Are we understanding what variation is? How do people learn? Are people not learning? Are people... A good example is, in every organization that I travel and this has been true for almost every technology transformation, but now it's glaring. I like to simplify. I say there's three groups. Let's take AI, right? Three groups in an organization. And usually, again, I don't care about really start-ups. I do care about startups from an investment standpoint, but I don't care about them from my day job. And so this is a bank or a large retail or insurance company or manufacturing. And so the CIO is like, "We have an AI strategy." And by the way, let me step one more thing, we learned a lot in the DevOps revolution, but DevOps was never a board-level conversation and it was never a Wall Street conversation.   0:30:37.1 John Willis: AI was immediately a board-level conversation. And so the pressure on a C-level, a CEO and a CIO, is "You must do AI yesterday.", right? And so now what's happening is the CIOs are literally doing knee-jerk reactions of like, "We're gonna have... We got 30,000 employees. If we can get all 30,000 employees using AI with a 3x productivity rating, we'll have..." you know, like, oh my God. And then they say, "Make it so." And I call this the strategy versus talent systems gap. And I don't mean how talented they are, I mean understanding what your talent system looks like. And to keep it simple, most talent systems look like this, they have one group that is passive-aggressive. They don't like change. They've been doing the same job forever. In this new world, they don't believe AI works, and they're passive-aggressive about it because they know they can't say they don't want it. When the CIO says, "We must do AI." they have to go, "Oh, we'll get to it next month. Next month. We'll get to it next month." And then you have the second group in the middle. They wanna do the right thing, but they're high enough... As we know, if you work for a bank and you're in a high enough position, if something really goes wrong, you're lucky if you get fired. You could get a fine for two times your salary, or you could actually go to jail.   0:32:02.3 Andrew Stotz: Right.   0:32:02.4 John Willis: Right? So that group is like, "I wanna use this, but you're not clear. There's no clarity from your... You guys all wanna do all this...   [overlapping conversation]   0:32:11.7 Andrew Stotz: There's risks everywhere.   0:32:13.3 John Willis: But we've got the OCC and there's no clarity on FDIC and like, what does this mean?" "Well, I don't know." "Well, then I'm not touching this stuff. And do you have my back?" No. Right? And then the third group is the classic, do now, ask forgiveness later group. And so you could put this all back to driving out fear. Because what happens is you've got a strategy. What is that, it's number eight, I think. I think that's right, but it doesn't matter, right? It could be nine, it could be seven in the 14 Points. So the CIO has said, "This must happen." And then, again, board-level, horizontal, vertical pressures. And then everybody's... And they're not even understanding, do they have the capability? Do people wanna do it? Does the middle group even understand the clarity? And so the first thing that you should be doing is, in the clearest sense is driving out fear. So the do now, ask forgiveness laters are fear that if they don't do it, they won't be the leaders. The middle group is pretty clear what their fear is, you don't give them clarity of what they can and can't do. And the third group is fear of changing, losing their job, "AI is gonna replace me." So that's all a spectrum of understanding fear at the human level. And so maybe that is one of the first things you should address before you actually set a grand strategy. And we know Deming has a lot of thoughts about this, and then we break into sort of like...   0:33:48.6 Andrew Stotz: Okay, so let's stop at that.   0:33:50.1 John Willis: Yeah. Yeah.   0:33:51.6 Andrew Stotz: Fear.   0:33:53.0 John Willis: Yeah.   0:33:54.5 Andrew Stotz: That is something that remains in your belief system that is supported by Deming. Did you have that awareness when you were in... Let's just think about before you came across Deming.   0:34:08.1 John Willis: Oh, oh, yeah.   0:34:08.9 Andrew Stotz: Let's say you were doing all that stuff with Goldratt and all that but then when you came to Deming, did fear come up as, oh, wow, this is obvious, or did you learn that later and you see it now more?   0:34:21.3 John Willis: Andrew, this is why you're good at your job. This is good. This is a great question. No, really good... I love questions where I have to really deep think about it. So I think that I kind of always... It wasn't until DevOps that I understood what failing was about. So just before, like the nanosecond before I'm learning what Deming's saying about PDSA and failing and how the whole structure of learning is, I had this sense, but I don't think I was baptized yet on... And to me, I'll put fear and failure in the same bucket, right? Because it's a very... They are, in a lot of senses, the same thing. But certainly I can put them in the same bucket. So I had a sense, but it wasn't until we started seeing fast fail in DevOps. So DevOps, one of the things with DevOps was shorten the feedback loop. That was one of the core tenets of DevOps. Like, instead of waiting three, four weeks, five weeks, six weeks to deliver some software, or six months, and then by the time you deliver it, you're onto... The whole group that built it is now doing something else, let's just be able to turn a line of code into a delivery now. And that was revolutionary, right? And it's changed the universe. I mean, you don't have the big AI providers today if you didn't have DevOps.   0:35:46.4 John Willis: You would not have Airbnb and Uber and all that if you didn't have DevOps. Right? So that... And that sort of realized that this fast feedback loop is really an interesting thing, right? And the fact that it is telling you fail fast because then you learn fast and then you correct fast. And you... And so right around that time, I'm doing this research on Deming and starting to understand epistemology, the theory of knowledge. And so, again, I don't think... Like I said earlier, I don't think I had the... And vocabulary's too loose of a word. I don't think I had the structural understanding. Like, I didn't know what the word epistemology meant [laughter] before I started learning Deming. So I... So it was really... There were flavors of understanding what learning was, but it was DevOps that literally sort of put it to the front of why this works, how it does. And then I got... Again, a lot of careers is just being lucky, right? I just happened to sort of tap into this Deming thing through meeting Gene, learning about Goldratt, and then having this good friend tap me on the head and say it all goes back to Deming. And so, so and then that point, then it sort of opened up the whole world of epistemology. And it wasn't until I wrote the book where I started realizing it was pragmatism.   0:37:07.2 Andrew Stotz: And did that... Does that fail fast, does that method of accelerating the feedback loop that happened through DevOps as you've explained, does that remove a lot of fear from where people would be...   0:37:19.6 John Willis: Oh yeah.   0:37:19.7 Andrew Stotz: Much more... So that all of a sudden says, "No, no, no, it's okay to fail. We'll see that in a day, in two days, and then we're gonna iterate from that." So, okay, I understand how that kind of reframes fear of failure. But then you now talked also about the idea that it's a big element that you see, everything goes back to Deming. Nowadays you see this fear. How does it connect with how you see fear today in the workplace or in organizations?   0:37:50.6 John Willis: Well, again, I think it's the same thing. I mean, I hear people talk about now that one of the big discussions right now and I always look for the anti-pattern of where the discussions go, right? There's this big discussion about AI slop, right? In fact, last year it was we were all concerned about hallucinations. And I'm not dismissing that, but like, if you know how to run AI and infrastructure harnesses and build ground truth in an organization and you understand how your internal audit works, hallucinations are not, let me repeat this, are not a problem in 2026. They are not a problem. You could make them a problem by not understanding what I just said, but they are not a problem. So today's hallucination frenzy scare is what's called AI slop. And I guarantee you in 2027, it'll be something else. But... And I'm not saying it doesn't exist. It does exist, right? But so people are sort of calibrating, what is the cost... There's this counter-reaction to AI coding, not even assistance, people are now using pure agent coding, right? And the question that I think Deming would ask and maybe if there is some divine proxy of me speaking through Deming or Deming speaking through me is that the question that people are now looking at is, "Slop is so bad, we're creating so much code, should we ease back to the longer cycle for ideation and delivery and that process?" Because it's costing us a lot of money on the implementation side.   0:39:20.8 John Willis: The error, the time it takes to remediate the slop is starting to outweigh. Well, that's just bad organizational behavior and design. But okay, but so now I've had this argument with a major corporation, the CIO the other day, where I was saying you have to create this hourglass effect. For you got to create the funnel and then you got to have the control system that slows things down and speeds it up. And he was saying, "But yeah, the cost of the slop is all this stuff." And I said... What I said is, "Yeah, but what you're missing is..." and this is a company that did really well in DevOps, I worked with them years ago through the DevOps transformation and they understood the fast feedback and I had to re-explain the idea that, yeah, there's a cost to AI slop, but if you're not calibrating that with the cost of non-fast feedback and learning because your fear is this slop is gonna get us back or make you knee-jerk reactions, we're gonna see if we can slow down the ideation, maybe we move too fast. And again, I don't... There are scenarios where that is absolutely true, but that is, first understanding your problem. And your problem isn't slow down the ideation process.  Oh, we should spend more time ideating because what does that do? It goes back to the old school where we're spending way too much time in the ideation. By the time it actually gets implemented, the feedback loop of learning is way too long. So I think you're better off at least measuring... And this is where variation comes into play. Measuring if I decrease the ideation time, do I get more value from the fast feedback because I can understand the problem, I can fix it faster? And again, that was one of the core tenets of DevOps. But I find people now pushing back because they're scared of AI slop and it's costing more remediation time. So again, I think these are multiple ways of thinking about how fear...   [overlapping conversation]   0:41:26.9 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, so besides...   0:41:27.1 John Willis: The fear... And I was just gonna say one... Sorry to cut you off.   0:41:29.0 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, go ahead.   0:41:31.0 John Willis: But one of the biggest problems I've seen over the years is I think the knee-jerk reaction is the symptom of fear. Right? And so I've seen this over and over where a bank gets pawned and so they put out a req for a hundred IT sec professionals in a city where you can best case hire 10 one year. Right? So again, I think that there's that combinatorial fear, knee-jerk reaction.   0:42:00.5 Andrew Stotz: If you were to pick one other area of Deming that really stands the test of time for you, as opposed to a Deming disciple, let's say someone that's trying to implement everything that he's talking about and they're trying to do it in their little manufacturing company or their service business, which I interview those guys.   0:42:09.1 John Willis: Yeah, yeah.   0:42:17.6 Andrew Stotz: But in your case, in some ways it's like you swam through a Deming period of time, absorbed everything and now you're on to other stuff. I'm just kind of interested about what else is lasting?   0:42:35.2 John Willis: Yeah, no...   0:42:35.3 Andrew Stotz: Just one thing.   0:42:35.6 John Willis: And I think maybe, Andrew, maybe part of a problem of the institutionalized Deming conversations is it doesn't always have to have the word Deming in it. In other words, I'm not criticizing you. I'm just saying that I see it more as it's in my DNA. It's part of how I look at things. And so I'll give you a great example. This is pure Deming, but I wouldn't think of it as, "Oh, let me explain this way I want you to evolve in AI because Deming would say..." I don't start that way. But I will tell you that when I came up with this idea and it's called an ideation, AI ideation hackathon. Right? Because everybody's running tech hackathons, AI hackathons. And that's a terrible, terrible, terrible idea. And there's technical debt, you're just making a lot of mistakes there.   0:43:01.7 Andrew Stotz: Right.   0:43:27.8 John Willis: It's a knee-jerk reaction. So the ideation hackathon is sort of something unique. I was doing some consulting for the CMO of a large database company, but got into AI and I helped them, it's called MongoDB, I don't do any work for them anymore but I helped them launch their AI solution. And I did a lot of technical hackathons and I just kept seeing how all the chaos of these technical hackathons, people would build stuff, it would just wind up in GitHub repositories, it would go nowhere. And I finally said, "Why don't we just strip out the technology and focus on the ideation process?" Right? And so that becomes a pure implementation of PDSA. Right? Because in a PDSA, if I was gonna sort of explain it in a Deming way, a hackathon would be a terrible way to implement a PDSA. "So let's build the Sistine Chapel and then let's figure out, let's study the results." Or why don't we start small as an organization? This is why I tell my first... Right now, CIO asks me, "Okay, John..." and usually the conversation ends at this, "What would be your 30-day, 90-day plan, 180-day plan?"   0:44:41.0 John Willis: I'm like, "Not to have one." Yeah, but then I sort of, I talk about two ways to deal with where they're at. And I say that one is something I've done over years, was a qualitative. I do these large where I interview 300, 400 people and I use true qualitative analysis approach to interviewing people, build categories, and structurally design what the place looks like. Right? And that's very... But it's very expensive and it takes... Expensive not in the money, but the time. The new sort of one that CIOs, at least a small percentage of bite onto is, "Why don't we run some ideation hackathons?" And here's the value, you're not writing any code. You're letting people focus on learning how to ideate. Because remember I said earlier, AI is not a technology transformation, it's an organizational learning change. So let's focus on the organizational learning structures without giving any of the technology or the code. But do the hackathon, and the readouts are what you would have built minus the specific tools. And it's glorious because you actually you get to see all the stuff without expending tokens. You don't build the risks. Because anybody who tells you they can sandbox experiments in AI is lying, absolute lying. If anybody's followed the recent Open AI Hugging Face one, it was the most insane escape.   0:46:10.9 John Willis: So, and then the other idea is I don't want 30 of my executive administrators all picking their own tools and all trying to solve all their C-level bosses' problems. And by the way, there's the whole security exposure is, I've done ideation hackathons where an EA says, "I got this idea. I wanna take my P&L or my profit or whatever of some proprietary information on a spreadsheet and throw it into Claude and have Claude..." I'm like, "Yeah, no, no, no, no. Let me explain how that goes into Claude." It literally, it traverses through a bunch of internal structures that leave stuff laying around. And by the way, even though they say they don't train on your data, they have your data. Like, you don't want that data in there. So the ideation hackathon, I think, is a really good... And so I think the main point to that is, although I don't walk in the door and I think one of the... Again, your listeners, I'm like attacking your listeners basically but I think one of our problems is, we try to build our, some people try to build their skill set around like, "I'm a Deming expert. I'm gonna teach you how to do Deming and everything's gonna be great because of Deming." as opposed to let's just make the water Deming, the water, the fabric of what we do. And every once in a while it does make sense to be able to say, "Hey, you know that..." And I won't go back and say I won't lead and say, "Well, Deming tells us..." because I'm not gonna get the gig if I just go too much on Deming anyway. But I will say at some point, I'll say, "Here's the deal. We've got over 100 years of management knowledge on how to do the right things. Let's pay attention to those things." Right? And that's the Deming, that's the Shewhart, that's the Ackoff, it's the Ashby, it's the... We can go down the list, right? Senge.   0:48:06.2 Andrew Stotz: One of the things I was thinking about a while ago was, when Dr. Deming wrote 'Out of the Crisis', he was telling us that we were in a crisis and that we needed to think a new level of thinking. Did it work? Are we out of the crisis? Did people take on board what he taught? Where are we now? That was 1986.   0:48:30.7 John Willis: Yeah, I know, I know.   0:48:31.7 Andrew Stotz: On the one side you can say America's brought incredible amount of innovation and businesses are huge and other countries and other regions struggle to catch up with America. So on the one hand, you could say materially it appears like we're there. But on the other hand, when you look at the way things are managed, you could argue, yeah, not much has changed.   0:48:56.7 John Willis: It's a tough one. It's a tough, I mean, let's just face it, large-scale organizations of high consequences are so full of bureaucracy. Humans interacting at that scale is probably the hardest organizational problem there is, right? You can study anthropology for the next 40 or 50 years and still not have a good clue of how to. And people do, right? So, yeah, it's hard. And why things work, why they go through the... I mean, I talk about the Peterson at Ford, right? And then Ford, turns out there were a lot of other... There are these other conflicting things that happen, industry changes, financial models change. Why did Ford have this incredible success when Peterson called Deming? And then some number of years later, they're back to the old ways, right? We got General Motors, we got all that. I will say this, and I hadn't really thought about this until you asked the question. One of the things I did focus pretty heavy on is Deming's influence on Toyota. And now there's a lot of debate and this is where people get pretty mean with me. I mean, Dr. Spear, I love Dr. Spear. He wrote 'High Velocity Edge' and he's a genius. He was MIT Sloan. And every time I'd see him, "Well, you know, John, Deming and that Six Sigma stuff never worked." And I'm like, "Alright, first off, he didn't do Six Sigma. Second off..."   0:50:21.6 John Willis: And then he told me one time, he said that Deming had no influence on Toyota. I'm like, "Yeah, that's just not blatantly untrue. I'm sorry, you're a PhD genius, I'm not. You're wrong." And so I've been hitting him... Over the years, I hit him with a lot of evidence of Deming's influence on Toyota. And it even goes back to Denco Densco and some of the same. But here's the thing, right? I... There's a woman called Katie Anderson. She's got a book, Learning to... 'Leading to Learn, Learning to Lead', where she met a guy who spent four decades at Toyota, this Dr. Yoshino, and she interviewed and wrote a book about his career. She runs a Japan study trip. I did a Japan study trip a couple of years ago and I got to meet him. And I... He hired at Toyota in 1966. He worked alongside Ohno, Shingo. He was there. He was a junior guy, but he was the guy they were yelling at, "Do this, do that, do this." right? So he was there.   0:51:23.9 John Willis: I told him, I said, "There are people that believe in the US that Deming had no influence on Toyota." He could not believe that that question even could come up. And he told me, he said, "John...", he doesn't really speak good English, we had a translator, he said, "Let me tell you what Deming taught us. He taught us to understand data." And at first I didn't grok that, but then I started thinking about variation. And although there's a lot of people that say that that didn't carry through too, but if I look at what Agile, Lean, and ultimately become DevOps, I in that book trace it pretty strongly back to Deming's influence on Toyota. And you can't deny Lean is not the core of Agile Lean, today's Lean, right? Toyota Production Systems, to be clear. So then I would say that the lasting impact of Deming is not what happened in the '80s when the Americans started understanding what he did, because maybe that translation, maybe it had to be... I asked Doris Quinn this and she said, "Oh, that's interesting." Because I said this, I said, "Could it be that Japan influenced Deming as much as he influenced Japan?" And I think it did. And I think the point was they were...   0:52:45.6 Andrew Stotz: It was a love affair.   0:52:46.3 John Willis: And yeah, and they were more malleable to his messaging.   0:52:50.3 Andrew Stotz: Well, they were more malleable because of their condition, but they also were more susceptible because of the structure of the society.   0:53:01.6 John Willis: Exactly. Yeah, but even the sort of community structure. I'll tell you another quick story on that study trip where we visited an elementary school. And in the elementary school, they had no janitors. Every sort of public school is like this, right? They have no janitors. And the kids, they literally clean. At about 2 o'clock, a bell goes off and some kids rotate and they do the bathrooms, some people... Imagine in an American school, some ritzy parents, "My son cleaned the bathroom?" It'd be on CNN. And they rotated serving food.   0:53:20.7 Andrew Stotz: Child slave labor.   0:53:39.7 John Willis: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we got to interview a couple of them and they understood Kaizen and all. So me, I start thinking about like, oh my God, this is our... Western culture is so broken because we basically teach everything that's antithetical to that. They get out of college and then maybe they get lucky and get into an Agile, Lean-like structure and we have to break it all down, where their kids come out completely in that sort of community. And we went to a lot of tier-one distributors. You could see the understanding of community and the power of it. And so what I'm saying is, what Deming was giving them saturated to have such an impact on TPS, and it's unquestionable the impact TPS has had on Lean and Agile and DevOps. And if you follow my thread, Lean, Agile, and DevOps have certainly impacted... You don't have places like Google for good or bad, Facebook for good or bad, Uber, because they could never scale...   0:54:40.0 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:54:40.1 John Willis: Without that. So again, I think, I really hadn't thought about this until you asked the question, is I think actually the Deming 1980s renaissance of Deming was a... Seemed like a bubble in retrospect, unfortunately. But actually indirectly, he's had more... And there's a good part of the book that tries to cover that. I do the "What would Deming do?" after he died, if he was alive and all the stuff that happened there.   0:55:06.3 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, I mean, definitely DevOps. And then Eric... What was his... The Lean Startup one?   0:55:14.0 John Willis: Eric Ries. Yeah, Eric Ries. Yeah.   0:55:17.3 Andrew Stotz: That also... Those two really probably did more to promote PDSA and that aspect.   0:55:23.4 John Willis: Yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, scientific method. There is a copy, and I cannot find it anywhere, there is a copy of Eric, one of Eric Ries' Lean Startup books that does attribute to Deming, and I cannot find it.   0:55:36.5 Andrew Stotz: It does or does not?   0:55:38.7 John Willis: Does. Does. He's got this thing about the 75th birthday or something. Do you have it? Because I can't find the copy, at some point I read a copy where he does a tribute to Deming.   0:55:50.0 Andrew Stotz: Yeah, I think there's some...   0:55:53.0 John Willis: And then...   0:55:53.1 Andrew Stotz: I have the book and I think there is some reference in the book.   0:55:57.5 John Willis: Yeah, there was one, was like... It was like... I don't know if it was the 70th year, 75th year, and he... So yeah, no, I mean that directly. Lean Startup is literally... Yeah, so yeah.   0:56:10.9 Andrew Stotz: And if we think about people that are listening to this podcast, the people that I really want to listen to this podcast and I really want to get something out of the podcast is people that just don't know Deming. They've never heard of it, but they've stumbled upon it. One of the Deming community said, "Hey, you should listen to this podcast because you'll learn about Deming." And maybe they listen to a couple of episodes and it's a bit overwhelming when they hear someone talking about a lot of detail about this or that. Maybe they bought 'Out of the Crisis' and they got a chapter or two into it and they thought, yeah, that's also a bit overwhelming. What would be your message to that person who's listening right now to say, here's the reason why you shouldn't abandon it because of XYZ or whatever that message is that you've got about what they need to know about Deming?   0:57:01.4 John Willis: Yeah. I mean, I will say this, learning is hard. Change is hard, right? I mean, it sounds cliché, but, yeah, I think all of us who came into Deming, I didn't... When I read, we talked about this, I read 'Out of the Crisis', I was like, I don't know what's going on here. One of the worst things I can advise you to, I hate to say this, and this is probably anti-Deming Institute, is start off by reading his two books. You're better off going out to podcasts like this or other stories. I found that healthcare was chock-full of great stories, particularly about Profound Knowledge, of great examples. And then I went back and read the book and then like, oh my God, this is, now I get it, right? So I think a lot of things that we sort of encounter, a lot of them have... The things that are really valuable have this sort of facing counter-intuitiveness nature to them, and you have to sort of work at that.   0:57:55.9 Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   0:57:56.9 John Willis: And so Deming is hard. I mean, you... If you wanna understand Deming, I would say most people are not gonna get it on the snap. And what I would say to them is, it's worth figuring out what are the parts that he says and he did and his philosophy that could become part of your DNA, 'cause that I don't think anybody disagrees on. And then... And one other sort of short story. And I love Bill Bellows and I would say listen to all his podcasts. He's an amazing guy and just incredibly insightful on a lot of, I didn't really understand Taguchi, but so I did some podcasts with him. But I remember, and I'm not calling anybody out, but he runs the In2:InThinking Group and I've been to a couple of those. And I remember one time we were sitting there and we were having a conversation around sort of a roundtable and somebody asked, as I was talking about a company, they said, "Are they a Deming company?" I'm like, yeah. And I couldn't actually get through the room that, no. Nobody's a Deming company. Like, what is a Deming company? That's the wrong question. So again, back to, you got to be careful about how you think about Deming as using his philosophy to help organizations, because the more you focus on that it is a "Deming philosophy" as opposed to these are the right ways to think about the problems, you fall into this trap of maybe getting lost. Well, that Deming thing worked for about a year or two years and now it doesn't work. Well, if you don't call it a Deming thing, then what were the things that stuck and what are the things that didn't?   0:59:42.5 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. I just wanna remind the listeners and the viewers out there, just go to Amazon and find 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge'. For me, I listened to it as an Audible book, which was fun because I enjoyed the stories and it just reminded me to go back and listen again. And also the additional stories, which I actually hadn't bought until, I had been wanting to buy it, but I didn't. So while you were talking, I got that on Kindle. So that's gonna be my fun.   1:00:13.9 John Willis: Those are great stories. There's a story about Gene Cernan. He was the last guy to land, be on the moon. And as you go through the book, it's really interesting. I did like seven or eight... So I was in no rush to publish the Deming book. I was in a rush to do the AI book. So I would literally get to the third rev, the fourth rev, and every time I'd have more new friends point things out. And by the time I got to like eight revs and I'm like, okay, it's probably time to put this book out. But what happens is as you go with the editor, they just start carving things down. And a good editor makes the strong point, like my 'Devil Wears Prada'. But again, there were so many great stories, like the Gene Cernan one is the last guy to be on the moon, but there was a story about Tracy's Rock and it's just a fabulous story, but it didn't have any place in Deming's Journey of Profound Knowledge. It was just an add-on that sort of took you off course. But now, in a standalone book, it's a great story. So there's a ton of those. The guy who created Piggly Wiggly was this genius. Like, again, it didn't really fit in there. But as a standalone story and I even do a little bit of, like, this would have been in chapter 15, so if you read both, you get a sense. And the worst thing I can tell you, though, is I had one person, I was at a conference I was laying the book, the Profound Stories book was laying around, and I guess I came back, he was at a booth, and he read it, and he goes, "John, can I talk to you about your book?" I'm like, "What?" He goes, "I don't know." I'm like, "Oh, dude, you can't read that book without reading 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge'. It would be a terrible book if you didn't know what the premise was for where it came from." So, yeah.   1:01:59.7 Andrew Stotz: So in wrapping up, what would you like to leave the audience with from this discussion and from your journey into the teachings of Dr. Deming?   1:02:11.3 John Willis: Yeah, I think you have to start thinking about... And again, I know it sounds like I'm trying to sell the book and you're doing a better job than I am anyway but the last third of 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge' was what would Deming do had he survived another 20 years? Right? And probably nothing because he was pretty old and not healthy. But the... So, I mean, question then is, as we think about organizational behavior, what are the core things? And I think Profound Knowledge is a great way. I, again I... Again, I don't walk in and say, "Oh, we're gonna... CIO, we're gonna solve this problem by applying the four elements of Profound Knowledge." That's not how I start that conversation. But I'm certainly thinking about systems thinking because that's first and forefront. Like, how are you thinking about... Like one company recently I was with, they got... Some of the big AI providers are giving well-branded companies all-you-can-eat AI. Like OpenAI is saying, "Hey, you know..." That's a terrible idea, terrible, terrible. Because now you're just building technical debt up the gazoo, right? So again, to be able to see the forest behind the trees, what's the systems thinking effect of that? How are you learning? What's the epistemology, the theory of knowledge behind that?   1:03:39.2 John Willis: Are you applying... In the book, I tried to codify my understanding of, like, the theory of knowledge is, how do we know what we think we know? The variation is, how can we see what we think we know? The psychology is, what are the... Let's take a second and what are the blind spots? And then I think of it as a feedback loop is, are we continually like if you listen to Bill Bellows, he does a great job of sort of explaining systems thinking through the sort of vehicle of Taguchi or Ackoff but are we just continually looping through that process as, "Let's take a bigger chunk, let's take a bigger chunk, let's take a bigger chunk"? So Profound Knowledge, not so much that you have to walk in and be an expert on 'Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge', or more specifically, The System of Profound Knowledge. The idea is, can you use those... And the reason I fell in with 'The System of Profound Knowledge', why that was what hit my core, because I will say, out of my five decades of doing all this crazy stuff in technology, I can't think... I mean, there's a lot of cool frameworks that I use as auxiliary, and frameworks I'm using loosely but The System of Profound Knowledge is the one framework that to me beats all other frameworks because it covers epistemology, it covers understanding statistical analysis or analytical statistics. Right? Which is very important. It brings in the biases, the... All the sort of things about how people think, blind spots, and then it throws together the wrapper of appreciation of a system, so...   1:05:23.2 Andrew Stotz: Yeah. Well, John, on behalf of everyone at the Deming Institute, now you see your picture on the cover.   [laughter]   1:05:32.2 John Willis: There we go, man.   1:05:33.7 Andrew Stotz: I wanna thank you. It's a great discussion and it's long overdue.   1:05:37.7 John Willis: Sure.   1:05:37.9 Andrew Stotz: And for listeners, remember to go to deming.org and jump into DemingNext to continue your journey. This is your host, Andrew Stotz, and I'll leave you with one of my favorite quotes from Dr. Deming, which is, "People are entitled to joy in work."   1:05:42.4 John Willis: I love that you end with that.   

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She doesn't even go here! This week, V and Emily are joined by a friend who, indeed, does not normally go here, but we're glad she did for this episode: Allegra Ponti from STAN Podcast. She is here to join our cafeteria clique as we discuss the 2004 movie phenomenon Mean Girls, and how the worldwide fandom for this movie a) destroyed Lindsay Lohan, and b) shaped our own high school experiences to varying degrees. (While we didn't have time to get into it in the episode, the Broadway musical and 2024 film musical are also big fandoms in their own right! Toxic femslashers rise!) We discuss the differences between American and British school culture, the 2000s cultural exports of the United States, and the continual cycle of Hollywood child sacrifices. Plus, another installment of V's teachers not knowing how to handle a very lesbian, very fannish child!SourcesSo Fetch: The Making of Mean Girls and Why We're Still So Obsessed With It, Jennifer Keishin ArmstrongCalling It: Bama RushTok Is Over by Anne Helen PetersenLindsay Lohan for Rolling Stone (2004)PromoTGI Femslash - Our favorite fan convention, TGIF/F, is happening soon! The con is back on February 18-21, 2027, in Los Angeles, and registration is open now. The convention is limited to 100 attendees, so make sure you register soon to experience a wonderful, intimate, friendly con full of like-minded femslash lovers as you make friends with fellow queer fans, dance the night away to vids at Club Femslash, participate in the one-of-a-kind Fic Battle, and attend fascinating panels. You can get more information and register for your spot at http://www.tgifemslash.com. We'll be there, and we hope you will, too!Artifacts: Stories from the Emotional History of the Internet - Artifacts is a storytelling podcast about the technology, media, and digital culture we've left behind, and the feelings that remain. Each episode begins with a familiar artifact - a burned CD, a dial-up modem, a movie rental store, a family computer, a paper map - and unfolds into a story about memory, identity, creativity, belonging, curiosity, and the experiences we still carry with us today. This isn't just a show about old technology. It's about the people who grew up alongside it. Hosted by award-winning podcaster Danny Brown, Artifacts blends personal storytelling, cultural history, and thoughtful reflection to explore why some of the most ordinary objects became the milestones of our lives. Because sometimes the objects fade, but the feeling doesn't.A Date with Dateline - Kimberly and Katie are professional true crime TV experts with no formal training but evidence lockers filled with snark and uninformed opinions. Katie watches Dateline in hopes to learn how to prevent her new husband from murdering her for the life insurance money, and Kimberly watches so she'll know what to say when Keith Morrison interviews her about her best friend Katie's murder. (Note, this is V's legit favorite podcast ever!)This Week In Fandom History is a fandom-centric podcast that tells you… what happened this week in fandom history!Follow This Week in Fandom History on Tumblr at @thisweekinfandomhistoryWe're now on Instagram! @thisweekinfandomhistorySign up for our newsletter on our website, http://www.thisweekinfandomhistory.com!Check out our Fandom Primer playlist via linktr.ee/twifhYou can support the show via our Patreon at http://www.patreon.com/thisweekinfandomhistoryPlease remember to rate the show 5 stars on your listening platform of choice!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Erica Kent's debut novel Black Dog is a raw, darkly funny coming-of-age story about rock music, addiction, loss, and recovery in 1980s Boston. The story begins with an 11-year-old Jessica Ryder reeling from the murder of John Lennon, and music remains part of the soundtrack as her life becomes increasingly consumed by drugs and alcohol.In this episode, Erica Kent joins Booked On Rock to discuss the personal experiences that informed Black Dog, why Led Zeppelin's “Black Dog” helped inspire the novel, and how artists including The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, the Grateful Dead, the Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, Neil Young, and Jimi Hendrix became woven into Jessica's world. Erica also talks candidly about getting sober at age 20, experiencing a relapse years later, and what that experience taught her about the lasting power of addiction. We also explore why John Lennon's death represented a loss of innocence for her generation, the connection between rock culture and substance use, why sobriety doesn't mean giving up the music you love, and the idea at the heart of Black Dog: recovery isn't a simple journey from darkness into light. It's complicated, contradictory, and deeply human. Purchase a copy of Black DogVisit EricaKent.com----------

We're thinking of a number… No, you have to think… It's five, darling. Five. Hmm? That's the amount of times the great Barry Levitt has guested on this podcast. And the film to mark the occasion? Why, it's MAESTRO, of course — Bradley Cooper's 2023 biopic on composer/conductor extraordinaire Leonard Bernstein! Together we talk through the film's journey on its way to Cooper, trot out some impressions of varying quality, defend the good (i.e. non-Josh Gad) kind of theatre kids, defend bold and impassioned swings, and attempt to unpack the complicated controversies associated with this film. Throw your weight on us, darling. That's it. Put all your weight on us.You can still follow Barry on Twitter and Letterboxd @blevitt93, and still catch his writing over at the likes of Vulture, The Daily Beast, Empire, LA Times, Rolling Stone and more.You can subscribe to his Substack here: https://substack.com/@barrylevitt28 Follow the podcast on Twitter, Bluesky and Instagram and be sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Get in touch with us either via socials or email rambinaboutamblin@gmail.com.Ramblin is created and produced by Andrew Gaudion and Joshua Glenn. A special thanks as always to Emily Tatham for the artwork, and Robert J. Hunter-Clayton & Greg Sheffield for the theme music.You can buy tickets to the Robert J Hunter Band's album launch show on October 10 in London here: https://events.talentbanq.com/events/talentbanq/2123808

Mit ihrem Album "Raising Hell" bringt die New Yorker Hip-Hop-Gruppe Run-D.M.C. 1986 nichts Geringeres auf den Markt als eine musikalische Revolution. DJ Jam Master Jay, Reverend Run und D.M.C. – das ist das Hip-Hop-Trio aus dem New Yorker Stadtteil Queens. 1982 hat die Gruppe sich gegründet und mit Songs wie "It's Like That" und "King Of Rock" schon erste Erfolge gefeiert. Mit ihrem dritten Album "Raising Hell" leisten Run-D.M.C. wirkliche Pionierarbeit. Sie legen die Disco- und Funkbeats ab und machen den Hip Hop rauer – mit DJ und Drumcomputern wie zum Beispiel dem legendären "808". Mit ihrer Art von Hip Hop schaffen es Run-D.M.C. als erste Gruppe dieses Genres in die Top 10 der amerikanischen Billboard-Charts und auch als erste Hip-Hop-Formation auf das Cover des "Rolling-Stone"-Magazins. Sie verbinden Rap und Rock und haben zusammen mit Aerosmith und dem Song "Walk This Way" den ersten Crossover-Hit zwischen diesen beiden Genres aufgenommen. Der Song hat es in den 80ern bei vielen amerikanischen Radiostationen zum meist nachgefragten Song geschafft. Ihre Finger mit im Spiel haben dabei Russell Simmons und Starproduzent Rick Rubin. Die beiden betreiben 1986 schon seit zwei Jahren das erfolgreiche Plattenlabel "Def Jam" und produzieren das Album von Run-D.M.C. Rapper Chuck D. von der erfolgreichen Rap-Kombo "Public Enemy" hat Run-D.M.C. mal beschrieben als "die Beatles des Hip Hop". Diese Aussage polarisiert, beinhaltet aber viel Wahres, denn sie haben den Hip Hop, der vorher hauptsächlich in den Blockparties und der schwarzen Community stattgefunden hat, mainstreamtauglich gemacht. So haben sie dafür gesorgt, dass ein breiteres Publikum Zugang zum Hip Hop gefunden hat. Patrick Schütz aus dem Meilensteine-Team findet: "Ihr Vermächtnis ist einfach der Hip Hop, wie wir ihn heute kennen! Den würde es ohne Run-D.M.C. gar nicht geben!" __________ Über diese Songs vom Album "Raising Hell" sprechen wir im Podcast • (16:07) – "Peter Piper" • (26:04) – "It's Tricky" • (36:10) – "My Adidas" • (42:40) – "Walk This Way" __________ Shownotes • Artikel "Die Geburtsstunde des Hip Hop" bei "The Circle": https://thecircle.de/blogs/features/11-august-1973-die-geburtsstunde-des-hip-hop • Das Musikvideo zu "Walk This Way" auf Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_UYYPb-Gk&list=RD4B_UYYPb-Gk&start_radio=1 • Das Musikvideo zu "It's Tricky" auf Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-O5IHVhWj0&list=RDl-O5IHVhWj0&start_radio=1 • Interview mit Rapper D.M.C. zur Geschichte hinter "Walk This Way" auf Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ikJrtxRovI • ARD Podcast-Tipp: Das Wissen: "Faszination Oktoberfest – Mehr als Massenrausch in Tracht": https://www.ardsounds.de/sendung/das-wissen/urn:ard:show:ffbe53ea2c26eb21/

Rhiannon Giddens doesn't usually make pop music, but she wrote and played the banjo riff on Beyoncé's country single, “Texas Hold ‘Em.” She comes from the Black string band tradition, is the artistic director of the Silk Road Ensemble, and studied opera in college. Giddens spoke with Terry Gross about channeling her ancestors through her instrument. Also, Rolling Stone investigative reporter Cheyenne Roundtree talks with Tonya Mosley about her new book, Bad Boy for Life. It tells the story of Sean Combs across the names he gave himself: Puffy, Puff Daddy, P. Diddy, Love, and the systems that allowed his alleged abuse to go on for decades. Film critic Justin Chang reviews the new film Your Mother Your Mother Your Mother, starring Mahershala Ali.Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter Follow us on Instagram Subscribe to our YouTube channel Check out the Fresh Air ArchivesSee pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

Rick Wilson is co-founder and board member of The Lincoln Project. He's a renowned political strategist, infamous award-winning ad-maker and podcast host, writer, speaker, and political commentator on MSNBC, CNN, ABC News, NPR, Real Time with Bill Maher, and various American and international news outlets. He's a 30-year veteran of national Republican politics who got his start in the 1988 Presidential campaign of George Herbert Walker Bush, and has produced groundbreaking and award-winning political advertising and strategic counsel to winning political candidates, SuperPACS, state parties, the national campaign committees, and corporate, association, and government clients across the nation and around the world. Rick has authored two New York Times bestsellers – Everything Trump Touches Dies and Running Against The Devil – A Plot To Save America from Trump And Democrats From Themselves – and often writes for The Washington Post, Politico, Rolling Stone, The Hill, The Bulwark, and the London Spectator. Are Donald Trump and the Republican Party imploding? Are we finally at the long-awaited inflection point? Is a blue tidal wave coming? Do Democrats finally have the right candidates and messaging? Are they going to win back the House AND Senate? Will Trump "run" again in '28? Will Don Jr. run? And if so, what will J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio and other potential candidates do? Rick addresses these critical questions and more. But first, Andy and Matty discuss the breaking Supreme Court ruling on elections; Trump's media ban and new Iran threat; and AL Sen. Tommy Tuberville's "furry" fears, Plus, this week's Winners and Losers and Andy's rant on the ban. Got somethin' to say?! Email us at BackroomAndy@gmail.com Leave us a message: 845-307-7446 Twitter: @AndyOstroy Produced by Andy Ostroy, Matty Rosenberg, and Jennifer Hammoud @ Radio Free Rhiniecliff Design by Cricket Lengyel

Rich and the guys react to the NFL handing out TD celebration fines to Bengals WR Ja'Marr Chase, Niners FB Kyle Juszczyk, and Cowboys TE Jake Ferguson, and to the 100% awesome celebration by White Sox slugger Munetaka Murakami after Chicago clinched a spot in the MLB playoffs. Actor Malcolm McDowell joins Rich in-studio to promote his new ‘The Last Train to Fortune' western, and shares some great stories about making ‘A Clockwork Orange' with Stanley Kubrick, getting hounded by ‘Star Trek' fans while attending a Rolling Stones concert in Las Vegas with William Shatner, dining with legendary ‘Citizen Kane' director Orson Welles and more in a round of ‘Celebrity True or False' and reveals why working with Jeremy Piven on ‘Entourage' and David Caruso on ‘CSI: Miami' will NOT go down as career highlights for him. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On TIGER, episode 14- Host John Poz and Tiger Ali Singh focus on Return to Japan, 9/11, Crazy gimmicks, Tiger's time in the WWF, and more! Tiger will right some wrongs as he corrects the false narratives out there about his signing with the company. From the world of professional wrestling, pop culture, and behind-the-scenes controversy comes a brand-new podcast unlike anything else out there. John Poz — the host of the TMZ and Rolling Stone featured Two Man Power Trip of Wrestling — joins forces with former World Wrestling Federation superstar Tiger Ali Singh to pull back the curtain on the wrestling business, confront unfinished business, and set the record straight on stories that have been twisted, forgotten, or never told. With unfiltered conversations, insider perspective, and a mission to right some wrongs along the way, this podcast delivers raw honesty from two voices who have seen the business from very different sides of the ring. Please check out - The Tiger Jeet Singh Foundation (TJSF) https://tigerjeetsinghfoundation.com/ Store - Teepublic.com/stores/TMPT Follow us @TwoManPowerTrip on Twitter and IG Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

If you've gone to a concert recently-- or any event really-- you've probably noticed them come out. Maybe they've obstructed your view. Maybe you've pulled one out yourself. Maybe you've judged people for it. Maybe they're so ubiquitous now, you actually haven't thought about them at all. Of course, we're referring to cell phones. They're a topic of contention, with plenty of people ready to tell you they're ruining the concert experience-- but is there also an upside? Let's have the debate.Host Caryn Ceolin is speaking with Andy Greene, a senior writer at Rolling Stone magazine, about his belief that the number of devices at concerts is ruining the experience. Then, Caryn speaks with Wendy Fonarow, an anthropologist, writer, music industry professional, about how whether or not you should be recording at a concert, really depends on what you want from the experience. We love feedback at The Big Story, as well as suggestions for future episodes. You can find us:Through email at hello@thebigstorypodcast.ca Or @thebigstory.bsky.social on Bluesky Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What happens when you listen to the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists—not once, but three times each—and score every album along the way?Aaron Belansky is taking on an ambitious classic rock experiment called The Review Board, listening to 329 albums across 987 total listens to determine his personal Top 10 classic rock artists. And he's doing it all while walking—roughly 740 hours of music and an estimated 2,000 miles.In this episode, Aaron joins Booked On Rock to reveal some of the biggest surprises so far. He explains why Led Zeppelin has climbed to No. 2 in his rankings, why Eric Clapton doesn't hit him the way he once did, how The Rolling Stones won him over after years of resistance, and why Pink Floyd's early catalog is hurting their standing. He also discusses rediscovering The Who's Live at Leeds, hearing familiar albums differently after repeated listens, and whether we love classic rock because it's truly great—or simply because we've heard it thousands of times.It's a fascinating experiment in music, memory, repetition and changing tastes—and a reminder that even the albums and artists we think we know can sound very different when we go back and really listen.Visit Aaron Belansky's Review Board YouTube channelVisit the Review Board website----------

Sean Combs founded Bad Boy Records and spent three decades as one of the most powerful men in hip hop. Now he's serving a federal prison sentence. Rolling Stone reporter Cheyenne Roundtree spent years talking to the people who worked for him, many of them trying to break into the music business. In her new book, Bad Boy for Life: The Rise and Fall of Sean Combs, she lays out what those jobs actually required. "This was supposed to be their jobs and careers... keeping their boss' domestic violence of his girlfriends a secret,” she tells Tonya Mosley. Also, film critic Justin Chang reviews the new action thriller Your Mother Your Mother Your Mother.Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter Follow us on Instagram Subscribe to our YouTube channel Check out the Fresh Air ArchivesSee pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

With Paul away, Amy hits the road with TV critic and former Rolling Stone writer Alan Sepinwall to revisit Cameron Crowe's Almost Famous, the coming-of-age rock movie about a teenage journalist, a very complicated band, and the blurry line between access and honesty. They dig into Crowe's autobiographical story, the film's legendary cast, and its many musical highs, while exploring what it means to be a critic when you're also a fan. Along the way, Amy and Alan debate Lester Bangs' advice, the power critics have to shape what becomes canon, and why Almost Famous remains one of the great movies about falling in love with music. You can join the Unspooled conversation on Paul's Discord at https://discord.gg/ZwtygZGTa6 Follow Paul and Amy on Letterboxd for more of their movie hot takes! https://letterboxd.com/paulscheer/ https://letterboxd.com/theamynicholson/ Paul's book Joyful Recollections of Trauma is out now! Find it at https://www.harpercollins.com/products/joyful-recollections-of-trauma-paul-scheer Check out more of Paul's writing on his Substack https://substack.com/@paulscheer Episodic Art by Kim Troxall: https://www.unspooledart.com/ Learn more about the show at Unspooledpod.com, follow us on Twitter @unspooled and on Instagram @unspooledpod, and don't forget to rate, review & subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or where you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Troye Sivan joins our very own Leah Luser in The Rolling Stone Studio at our New York office to talk about his brilliant new album 'She's the Best,' out next month, his fandom of Nicole Kidman and getting to work with her on the visuals for the album's title track, plus the influences behind the new project. He also chats about some of his favorite peers and collaborators, including why Addison Rae's debut is one of the best pop albums in 15 years, what it was like working with The 1975's George Daniel for 'She's the Best,' and having a front row seat to the ascension of close friend Charli XCX's during 'Brat' summer and The Sweat Tour. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Comedian Bill Burr is sparking intense national debate following a viral Rolling Stone interview where he slammed corporate executives for their response to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson!

In this explosive segment, we break down two major stories exposing radical rhetoric and international policy double standards!

Bill Burr on Finding His Voice, Conan's Tonight Show Return, and Seth Meyers' Longer BreaksJohnny Mac shares daily comedy news featuring Rolling Stone's cover story on Bill Burr and clips where Burr discusses finding his voice, moving away from being “the angry guy,” East Coast vs. West Coast attitudes, and comments related to The Social Reckoning, Aaron Sorkin's Facebook film starring Burr as investor composite “Charlie,” in theaters October 9. The episode also covers Conan O'Brien returning to The Tonight Show and joking with Jimmy Fallon, plus Conan recounting Johnny Carson's advice to “be yourself.” Seth Meyers explains a new show structure with longer breaks aligned more like SNL, notes his Proof of Life podcast topping 1M YouTube views, and discusses late-night bookings. Other items: Jalen Brunson hosting SNL, Greece's prime minister meeting Dave Chappelle, Adam Sandler spotted on his 60th, a Carrot Top extortion case update, Vulture's comedian list highlighting Jack Benzinger, and upcoming podcast scheduling including “Is Late Night Dead?” on Oct. 4. 00:05 Bill Burr Rolling Stone00:30 Finding His Voice01:25 Anger and Shame02:20 East Coast vs West03:14 Politics and Tech04:16 Conan on Fallon06:20 Conan Career Advice06:59 Seth Meyers Breaks09:08 Jalen Brunson Hosts SNL09:51 Gossip Corner Roundup11:21 Vulture Comedians List12:49 Housekeeping  Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news-with-johnny-mac--4522158/support.Today's DCN is brought to you by MyBookie use promo code DCN!Daily Comedy News is hosted by Johnny Mac and releases every weekday. Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite app. Part of the Caloroga Shark Media network. For transcripts and show notes visit www.dailycomedynews.comDaily Comedy News with Johnny Mac is a daily podcast covering comedians, stand-up comedy, late night television, and the comedy industry. New episodes every morning. Follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen.  Contact John at John@thesharkdeck dot com For Uninterrupted Listening, use the Apple Podcast App and click the banner that says Uninterrupted Listening.  $4.99/month John's Substack about media is free. 

From Lena Dunham announcing the birth of her baby girl via surrogate in a fashion piece for Vogue, to Ed Sheeran's PR disaster over Palestine and free speech, this week both celebs have found themselves at the centre of debates they'd tried to side-step. Is commercial surrogacy inherently “anti-feminist”? And can stars really be apolitical in this day and age? Also on the show: we review Sharon Horgan's brilliant new series YOUTH, all about ageing anxiety and dating in your 50s.Join us on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes plus early access and ad-free listening at patreon.com/straightuppodcastTry the adaptogenic coffee that changed our lives with 20% off using code straightup at londonnootropics.comFollow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@straightuppod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and TikTok @straightuppodFind us on YouTube @straightupmediapodEmail at ⁠⁠hello@straightuppodcast.co.ukRecs/reviewsYOUTH, HBO MaxSharon Horgan: My sexual shelf life and dating over 50, The TimesLena Dunham Is a Mother! The Sweet, Singular Story of How She Prepared, VogueWhose Babies Are These? A Chinese man hired a Florida surrogate, then didn't pick up his kids, sparking a custody battle that could upend the industry, The CutWhen Political Reality Collides With Ed Sheeran, New York TimesEd Sheeran wants to stay out of politics. By quitting his tour, his support acts have exposed the hollowness of neutrality, Guardian ‘With Gaza, I Couldn't Not Speak Out': Ms. Rachel on Controversy, Fame, and the Future, Rolling Stone . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Det är sent i september och Mauro Scocco hälsar på sin granne Fredrik Strage på Kungsholmen. Nya singeln "Skånegatan" är en "Born to run"-smäktande nostalgitripp till 1985 där Mauro sjunger om när han flyttade till sin första lägenhet på Södermalm, som då fortfarande var fullt av arbetarbostäder och ungkarlshotell. "För mig var det en kulturkrock. Jag hade vuxit upp på Östermalm där man inte hälsade på någon. Här sa folk: Tjeenare! Ska du komma in? Jag har satt på kaffe. Kan du ta min hund i en timme?"I nya "Hemma hos Strage" pratar Mauro inte bara om hur han inledde gentrifieringen av Södermalm utan också om sin trofasta kärlek till Rolling Stones, om att efterfesta hos Ulf Lundell, om vem Sarah egentligen var, om att sörja sin mor, om huruvida det går att sjunga om åtrå som 64-åring, om sambandet mellan hjärtesorg och kreativitet och om att detaljstudera ackordföljer i låtar av Frank Sinatra, Janet Jackson och Metallica. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bill Burr gives evil cover and blames America's health care system for Luigi Mangione's murder in an interview with Rolling Stone. Meanwhile, Joe Rogan gives one of the worst political takes about Gaza on record. Rep. Brandon Gill joins us to break down his back-and-forth with Hasan Piker over birthright citizenship, the fight against Socialism in the midterm election, his run for Oversight Chair and more. French President Emmanuel Macron straight up lies about the West Bank and what's to come when speaking to the United Nations. Norway attacks private Israeli citizens and businesses to deprive them of their livelihoods to make them unsafe. Plus, more commentary.Thank you for supporting our sponsors that make The Dana Show possible…Alliance Defending Freedomhttps://JoinADF.com/DanaIf you believe your freedom is worth defending, now is the time to act.  Donate to Alliance Defending Freedom at the link above and have your gift MATCHED. Relief Factorhttps://ReliefFactor.comBe the next person sharing a Relief Factor success story. Get started today with the 3-Week QuickStart for only $17.76 and tell them you heard about them on The Dana Show. Patriot Mobilehttp://PatriotMobile.com/DANAMake the switch to Patriot Mobile today. Visit online or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code DANA for a FREE month of service.Webroothttps://Webroot.com/DanaSave 60% off Webroot. Protect your devices. Protect your family. Protect your peace of mind. Live a better digital life with Webroot. Byrnahttps://Byrna.com/DanaTrusted by law enforcement, security professionals, and everyday Americans—defend yourself and your family with Byrna.Ghost Bedhttps://GhostBed.com/DANAIf you're waking up tired before the day even starts, check out GhostBed.  Now get an extra 10% off their lowest prices of the season with promo code DANA. HumanNhttps://Humann.com/DanaGet the limited edition HumanN Watermelon Flavor and find out how to get a FREE 30-day supply before they sell out.Subscribe today and stay in the loop on all things news with The Dana Show. Follow us here for more daily clips, updates, and commentary:YoutubeFacebookInstagramXMore InfoWebsite

Welcome back to When Words Fail, Music Speaks—the podcast that explores how music can lift us out of depression, one track at a time. In today's episode, host James Cox drops the polish and lets his nerves show, sitting down with longtime musical hero Burton C. Bell, the front‑man of Fear Factory and a key voice behind Ascension of the Watchers, City of Fire, and several other projects.James prefaces the conversation with raw honesty, admitting he's both thrilled and jittery to interview someone whose music shaped his teenage years. The chat quickly shifts to Bell's upcoming “Obsolete by Word‑of‑Mouth” spoken‑word tour—a three‑city, 50‑ticket‑only experience in California and Las Vegas that revisits the 30‑year‑old Obsolete album. Bell will deliver the album's cinematic storyline live, without a microphone and with the audience's phones deliberately put away, turning the shows into a social experiment about presence and memory.Listeners get a behind‑the‑scenes look at the making of Obsolete, stories from the studio (including a surprise cameo by Gary Newman), and candid reflections on how Fear Factory's themes of surveillance, AI, and societal control still echo today. The episode wraps with Bell's favorite influences—Ozzy, Bowie, Bon Scott, and Elvis—and a friendly challenge: would you rather listen to The Beatles or The Rolling Stones forever?Tune in for an unfiltered, heartfelt conversation that blends nostalgia, artistic ambition, and a call to unplug and truly listen. This is the episode that proves, once again, that when words fail, music indeed speaks.

Interview with Chris Stamey !   Chris has a new album out called Modernism.    It features new versions of classic songs such as the Beatles' “Hey Bulldog” (with Big Star's Jody Stephens on drums), the Kinks' “Waterloo Sunset” (with the dB's), and Sly and the Family Stone's “Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)” (featuring the Uptown Horns, Brian Dennis [DAG], and Jon Wurster [Mountain Goats, Superchunk]). Deep cuts are also in evidence, including “Shadows Breaking Over My Head” by the Left Banke (with Brian Wilson Band alums Probyn Gregory and Nelson Bragg), “Hernando's Hideaway” (from The Pajama Game, and a 1954 hit for Everly Bros. producer Archie Bleyer), “At Last” (by Harry Warren), as well as three new interpretations of his own earlier tunes. There's also a closer of the Rolling Stones' “Ruby Tuesday,” a version produced by Alex Chilton in 1977. The original mix is now lost, but a charming instrumental rough mix on an old reel-to-reel analog tape (Alex on drums and guitar) was recently discovered, and Chris and Pat Sansone (Wilco, Autumn Defense) were able to replace the missing vocals and (with Don Dixon's bowed bass and Rachel Kiel's alto recorder) bring the track to life.   Chris Stamey began writing and playing music in grade school in Winston-Salem, NC, in the mid 1960s, in what is known now as the Combo Corner scene. In 1976, while studying music composition at UNC-Chapel Hill, he self-released Sneakers, one of the very first American “indie” records. The following year, he relocated to Manhattan to play and record with Alex Chilton in the burgeoning CBGB rock scene, then formed The dB's with fellow Carolinians Will Rigby, Gene Holder, and Peter Holsapple, with whom he made several acclaimed records of original material, including Stands for deciBels (self-produced with Alan Betrock) and Repercussion (produced by Scott Litt).   During the next decade and a half in New York, Stamey worked with a wide variety of musicians. He recorded well-received solo records for A&M and Warners and was a part of Anton Fier's Golden Palominos project, alongside an international touring cast that included Michael Stipe (R.E.M.), Jack Bruce (Cream), Carla Bley, and Bernie Worrell (Talking Heads, George Clinton). He continued recording and producing upon returning to NC in 1993.   His recent releases include The Great Escape, Lovesick Blues and Euphoria, as well as Falling Off the Sky with The dB's and A Brand-New Shade of Blue with the Fellow Travelers. As a producer and a featured singer/songwriter with the Paris-based Salt Collective project, he collaborated with Matthew Caws (Nada Surf), Juliana Hatfield, Richard Lloyd (Television), Matthew Sweet, Aimee Mann, Andy Partridge, The Lemon Twigs, Mike Mills, and Lynn Blakey, among others. As a producer, arranger, and mixer, he has worked with over a hundred artists, including Alejandro Escovedo, Kronos Quartet, Flat Duo Jets, Skylar Gudasz, Branford Marsalis, Tift Merritt, Le Tigre, Those Pretty Wrongs, Ryan Adams, and Yo La Tengo.   From 2010-2018, Stamey was orchestrator and musical director for an international series of concert performances of Big Star's classic album Third, alongside Big Star's Jody Stephens, Ray Davies, members of the Posies, R.E.M., Teenage Fanclub, Wilco, Kronos Quartet and Yo La Tengo; Thank You, Friends, a concert film of these arrangements, was released by Concord in March 2017. He currently tours as a member of Jody Stephens's Big Star Quintet, whose line-up includes Mike Mills (R.E.M), Pat Sansone (Wilco), and Jon Auer (Posies). His original radio musical about the early '60s in Manhattan, Occasional Shivers, premiered nationwide on Christmas Day 2016. A “songwriting memoir,” A Spy in the House of Loud (Univ. of Texas Press), was published in 2018, followed in 2019 by his first printed collection, New Songs for the 20th Century, with a companion two-disc CD (Omnivore Recordings).   open.spotify.com/artist/1i7YYagcULgnW5Qilsto1d music.apple.com/us/artist/chris-stamey/4034250 youtube.com/channel/UCG3O3S8Zg_WJoz2uTt_duig# instagram.com/mrstamey/?hl=en facebook.com/chrisstameymusic/ twitter.com/chrisstamey songkick.com/artists/186319-chris-stamey bandsintown.com/a/78299-chris-stamey deezer.com/us/artist/1279457 tidal.com/browse/artist/3611403 qobuz.com/us-en/interpreter/chris-stamey/515742 audiomack.com/chris-stamey music.amazon.com/artists/B008LPNC4M @chris-stamey.bsky.social chrisstamey.bandcamp.com/

This episode is a must-listen for music lovers and art enthusiasts alike. The guest, Ruby Mazur, is a legendary artist who has created iconic album covers for some of the biggest names in rock music, including the Rolling Stones and David Bowie. With a career spanning decades, Ruby's work has been a staple in the music industry, and his art continues to inspire and delight fans of all ages.Ruby's journey to becoming a renowned artist is a fascinating one, filled with stories of creativity, perseverance, and a dash of luck. From his early days as the head art director of Paramount Records to his own studio, Ruby has worked with some of the most iconic musicians of our time. His experiences are filled with behind-the-scenes stories and anecdotes that will leave you in awe.In this episode, Ruby shares his insights on how he approaches his art, from conceptualizing album covers to working with artists to bring their visions to life. He also talks about his current art exhibition at Fascination Street Fine Art, where he's showcasing over 80 paintings of classic rock stars from the 70s and 80s. With a unique touch, Ruby adds a personal twist to each piece, making them truly one-of-a-kind.Don't miss this opportunity to hear Ruby's incredible stories and learn about his artistic process. Tune in to this episode to discover how Ruby's passion for art and music has led him to create something truly remarkable.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On a new episode of The Rolling Stone Interview, senior editor and film critic David Fear talks to The Social Reckoning actor Bill Burr. A record-breaking stand-up comic from Boston who initially made his reputation as “the undisputed heavyweight champion of rage-fueled humor” and a pioneering podcaster, Burr had an epiphany on the set of Aaron Sorkin's new Facebook film and ended up completely changing his life, his work, and his comedy. “I don't want to be known as the angry guy anymore,” he told Rolling Stone during an extensive, candid conversation. “I want to be the guy that lets people meet in the middle.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

David Kissinger grew up swimming in Nixon's pool, getting bad-mouthed by classmates over his dad's Nobel Prize, and hanging out with people history books call monsters — and he calls uncles. Jay sits down with David Kissinger — son of Henry Kissinger, TV exec behind The Office, Battlestar Galactica, and Netflix's The Beast in Me — for a conversation that swings from Watergate to Ted Danson's phone number to the time Paul McCartney pulled out a harmonica just for him. David tells the story of the president calling his childhood neighbors "sons of bitches" (in front of a 10-year-old), explains how he squandered millions of dollars developing shows before finally getting one right, and gets brutally honest about the show he still thinks was robbed of its shot. Plus: why AI can't write a joke to save its life, what Barry Diller taught him about being a good editor, and how a 6:20am hiking group became his weekly dose of joy. It's part Hollywood war stories, part front-row seat to American political history, and part two old friends just riffing. Also: listener mail about firing a friend without losing her, and a hard stance on marzipan. Bio:  David Kissinger has spent decades helping decide what America watches on TV — and he's the son of one of the most consequential (and controversial) diplomats in modern history, so he's had a front-row seat to two very different kinds of power. Professionally, Kissinger cut his teeth as a journalist, writing for outlets including Rolling Stone and Esquire, before crossing over into the entertainment industry. He rose through television development at Disney's Touchstone Television, where he helped oversee hits like Home Improvement and Boy Meets World, then went on to run NBC Universal Television Studio, where his fingerprints are on shows including The Office, House, Monk, and Battlestar Galactica. Since 2005, he's served as President of Conaco, Conan O'Brien's production company — proof that after years of corporate TV, he still knows how to have fun. His father was Henry Kissinger, the former U.S. Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, and Nobel Peace Prize winner. Growing up with that surname meant David spent his childhood somewhere between political history and normal life, which may explain why he's spent his adult life gravitating toward comedy.  Kissinger is married to Alexandra Kissinger, who worked directly with Jim Henson and has helped carry forward the Henson legacy. Outside of work, he's an avid music fan and enjoys hiking and not answering Jay's texts.  Subscribe to Don't Be Alone with Jay Kogen for more conversations with writers, comedians, actors, creators, and thought leaders exploring life, creativity, politics, and the human experience. Website: https://www.dontbealonewjk.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dontbealonewithjaykogen/https://www.instagram.com/jaykogen/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dont.be.alone.wit Substack: https://substack.com/@jaykogen Merch: https://shop.app/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Episode 378 of History in Five Songs with Martin Popoff, Martin examines the many ways rock singers use falsetto. From the theatrical and expressive styles of Queen and David Bowie to the comedic, shrieking, and novelty approaches of artists including King Diamond and the Rolling Stones, Martin goes deep on this one. King Diamond – “Little One" Queen – “Cool Cat” Halford – “Silent Screams” David Bowie – “Ashes to Ashes” Rolling Stones – “Fool to Cry” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if getting dressed is less about fashion and more about the relationship you have with yourself?Our clothes communicate before we ever say a word. They can help us feel visible, confident, creative, and aligned with who we are becoming. They can also keep us connected to an older version of ourselves that no longer quite fits.Amy and celebrity stylist and image consultant JenniLee explore personal style and confidence, authentic professional style, and why so many people have closets full of clothes while still feeling as though they have nothing to wear. JenniLee shares why the answer is often more styling, not more shopping, and how career changes, body changes, comfort habits, and old beliefs about clothing can shape the way we show up.They also explore individuality in the workplace, JenniLee's SPARK Method, the limitations of AI and personal styling, thoughtful travel wardrobes, and the growing possibilities of resale and vintage fashion.Beneath all of it is a deeper invitation to become curious again. Getting dressed can be practical and professional without becoming another rule to follow. It can also be playful, intentional, kind, and deeply personal.Sometimes creating magic at work begins before we ever walk out the door.Take JenniLee's Style Quiz to help you meet your style archetype and bring more of you into what you wear. https://www.jennileestylist.consulting/quizMoments That Create Momentum:Style Is a Language – Explore what your clothes communicate not only to the people around you, but also back to yourself.When Your Closet No Longer Fits Who You Are – Understand why career shifts, body changes, and old habits can make getting dressed feel unexpectedly difficult.More Styling, Less Shopping – Learn how working differently with what you already own can reduce overwhelm and reconnect you with your personal style.Professional Does Not Have to Mean Invisible – Discover how fit, color, and thoughtful details can help you show up credibly without dressing like everyone else.Getting Dressed Can Be a Ritual – See how playfulness, creativity, and kindness can transform an everyday task into a more intentional way of showing up.About the Guest:JenniLee is a NYC-based fashion stylist and image consultant with over two decades of experience helping creatives and ambitious professionals dress with confidence, clarity, and intention. Her celebrity and editorial client list includes Scarlett Johansson, Chris Pratt, Lauryn Hill, Elton John, and One Direction, with work featured in Harper's Bazaar, Rolling Stone, InStyle, People, and Real Simple. She also appears regularly on morning shows like Good Morning Atlanta and Fox News Good Day New York as a style expert. JenniLee's philosophy is "More Styling, Less Shopping," and she helps her clients build wardrobes that align with who they're becoming, not just what's in their closet.https://www.instagram.com/jennileestylist/About Amy:Amy Lynn Durham, known by her clients as the Corporate Mystic, is the founder of the Executive Coaching Firm, Create Magic At Work®, where they help leaders build workplaces rooted in creativity, collaboration, and fulfillment. A former corporate executive turned Executive Coach, Amy blends practical leadership strategies with spiritual intelligence to unlock human potential at work.She's a certified Executive Coach through UC Berkeley & the International Coaching Federation (ICF) In addition, Amy holds coaching certifications in Spiritual Intelligence (SQ21), the Edgewalker Profile, and the Archetypes of Change . In addition to being the host of the Create Magic At Work® podcast, Amy is the author of Create Magic At Work®, Creating Career Magic: A Daily Prompt Journal and the founder of Magic Thread Media™. Through her work, she inspires intentional leadership for thriving workplaces and lives where “magic” becomes reality.Connect with Amy:https://createmagicatwork.net/https://www.linkedin.com/company/create-magic-at-workhttps://www.facebook.com/112951637095427https://www.instagram.com/createmagicatworkhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnEm4h3fUgaq8qgvZpz6dGgThanks for listening!Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page.Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!Subscribe to the podcastIf you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app.Leave us an Apple Podcasts reviewRatings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you are enjoying the show, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts.

What does more than 50 years in business teach you about knowing when to grow, when to pivot and when to walk away?In this episode of Screw It Just DO It, I sit down with Brad Aspess MBE, founder of Rarewaves, whose career has taken him from the music industry to high-street retail and ultimately global e-commerce.Brad started at Decca Records in 1973, just after they'd lost the Rolling Stones, and went on to build and scale retail businesses generating more than £60 million annually, before ultimately building Rarewaves into a global e-commerce business selling millions of products around the world.We talk about what five decades in business have taught him about spotting opportunities, following the cash flow, scaling without relying heavily on debt, empowering people rather than micromanaging them, and adapting before the market forces you to.One of Brad's central philosophies is simple:Play to win. Don't play not to lose.In this episode:• 50+ years of lessons from music, retail and e-commerce• Starting at Decca Records in 1973• Building and scaling major retail businesses• Why an opportunity only matters if you can expand and grow it• Why Brad believes you don't need heavy debt to build a business• Following the cash flow• Knowing when to shut something down and move on• Empowering people rather than micromanaging them• Sticking to what you're great at and outsourcing the rest• Adapting and pivoting before disruption catches you• Building Rarewaves into a global e-commerce business

We're together, in person! Two weeks in a row! The Notes: Remembrances of DecaDeuces past! Sorry for exporting VR porn to Iceland, Bjork (or you're welcome?)! The Hotdogs of Iceland! The fabled Iceland hotdog sauce! Finland has a special sauce for their meat pies aka burger tacos! Will is a Finnish meat pie addict! Will doesn't live in Finland or his meat pie problem would soon become a meat pie problem for everyone! Che Guevara isn't known for pooping on desks! Nelson's Top 3 Coup Tips! Water consiglieri vs water boss! Russian nesting doll of coups! Nouns can verb if they want to, they can leave their friends behind! Three's Company represents the totality of all French farce that preceded it, as well as all that followed after! The Rolling Stones are the Beatles who fuck! AI is calculators who fuck! AI has genitals for pleasure instead of procreation, which is why God hates it! This era of AI slop is casting a bit of a pall on my burgeoning robot revolution! Contact Us! Follow Us! Love Us! Email: doubledeucepod@gmail.com Twitter, Instagram, Threads: @doubledeucepod Bluesky: @doubledeucepod.bsky.social Facebook: www.facebook.com/DoubleDeucePod/ Patreon: patreon.com/DoubleDeucePod Also, please subscribe/rate/review/share us! We're on Apple, Android, Libsyn, Stitcher, Google, Spotify, Amazon, Radio.com, RadioPublic, pretty much anywhere they got podcasts, you can find the Deuce! Podcast logo art by Jason Keezer! Find his art online at Keezograms! Intro & Outro featuring Rob Schulte! Check out his many podcasts! Brought to you in part by sponsorship from Courtney Shipley, Official Superfans Stefan Rider, Amber Fraley, Nate Copt, and listeners like you! Join a tier on our Patreon! Advertise with us! If you want that good, all-natural focus and energy, our DOUBLEDEUCE20 code still works at www.magicmind.com/doubledeuce for 20% off all purchases and subscriptions. Check out the Lawrence Times's 785 Collective at https://lawrencekstimes.com/785collective/ for a list of local LFK podcasts including this one!  

The Rolling Stones' guitarist Keith Richards was cast away by Kirsty Young in 2015.He recalls the moment he bumped into his primary school friend Mick Jagger at Dartford train station in 1961, years after losing touch with him. They bonded over a shared love of American blues, which came to define their own sound. Keith Richards laid down the guitar riff for one of the biggest hits, "Satisfaction", on a tape machine in his sleep.You can listen to the full episode on BBC Sounds.

Apparently retirement is optional when you're a rock star. This comedy podcast kicks off with the crew looking at aging music legends who refuse to leave the stage, from Paul McCartney and Rod Stewart to Lionel Richie, Iron Maiden, Metallica and the Rolling Stones. Some have battled serious health problems, but they keep touring anyway — because as George Burns once told Lionel Richie: stay booked.Then we revisit the Hyrox athlete who suffered a catastrophic mid-race bathroom emergency and still powered through to victory. Unfortunately for Hyrox, the viral incident has turned into a massive PR headache, with criticism over officials allowing her to continue competing and concerns about what the fallout could mean for the rapidly growing fitness brand. Turns out “never quit” occasionally needs an asterisk.Crap on Celebrities brings even more chaos to this comedy podcast, including the Back to the Beginning Ozzy and Black Sabbath concert film heading to theaters, Metallica adding more stadium shows, Madonna returning to the VMAs, and Taylor Swift expanding her music-video empire. Plus, Travis Kelce gets caught up as a victim in a multimillion-dollar investment fraud scheme.Rizz also receives devastating personal news: Judge Judy is retiring from appearing in front of the camera after three decades. Thankfully, learning she's reportedly worth around $440 million helps everyone through this difficult time. The crew also gets into Netflix being criticized for glamorizing real-life killers, whether audiences have turned serial killers into entertainment franchises, and Megan Fox entering the celebrity soap game.Aging rock legends, viral race disasters, celebrity scandals, true-crime arguments and Rizz mourning his television soulmate — just another perfectly functional comedy podcast from The Rizzuto Show.Follow The Rizzuto Show → linktr.ee/rizzshow for more from your favorite daily comedy show.Connect with The Rizzuto Show Comedy Podcast online → 1057thepoint.com/RizzShow.Hear The Rizz Show daily on the radio at 105.7 The Point | Hubbard Radio in St. Louis, MO.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Federal Reserve has raised interest rates for the first time in three years, defying President Trump. Bloomberg’s Catarina Saraiva explains what the quarter-point move means for household borrowing costs. Charlie Kirk’s family has accused Utah officials of failing to prevent his assassination at Utah Valley University. Deseret News’s Brigham Tomco reports on what the wrongful-death notice alleges. Ed Sheeran’s stadium tour is in jeopardy after all of his supporting acts dropped out over the removal of the rapper Macklemore. Rolling Stone’s Jon Blistein explains how the dispute unfolded. Plus, Iran-backed Houthis have captured ground overlooking a key strait for Saudi trade, a measles outbreak continues to spread in Pennsylvania, and Delaware is considering barring businesses from voting in local elections. Today’s episode was hosted by Gideon Resnick.