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Casual Trek - A Star Trek Recap and Ranking Podcast

It's Bank Holiday Monday, so let's take it easy and talk about some comics. After promising it early in the show's history, Charlie's finally read the first arc of IDW's Star Trek comic by Lanzig & Kelly. Look, we're Casual Trek, this is the level of service you get from us.The first arc, “Godshock” features that classic Star Trek concept: thumbing your teeth at god, only this time it's a bad thing as someone's killing gigantic cosmic entities! Who did this and how can it be stopped? Well, Ben Sisko's back from his time as a cosmic entity to find out, with an almost all-star cast of people from throughout Star Trek History. There's Data and Dr Crusher from TNG, Paris from Voyager, Scotty from TOS and Jake Sisko is also there. Worf guest stars for long enough to be a bad parent and back door pilot for another series, and there are a couple of new characters who are a lot of fun.Join us on the USS Theseus and prepare for a lot of tangents, as we both love talking comics.References: The Super Stalag of Space, Harry 20 on the High Rock, Dan Dare, Star Trek: The Next Generation/Doctor Who: Assimilation Squared, Quatermass and the Pit, The Legion of Super-Heroes, The Legion Clubhouse, comic collection sizes, YES Charlie has put rolled-up Walking Dead volumes in his back pocket, the Bendis New Avengers approach to team-building, Billy Pilgrim, The Krakoan Age of X-Men, Marvel Swimsuit Specials (which are coming back), release a Star Trek Swimsuit Special you cowards!, Data pages vs data pages, Gilmore Girls spoiled Anna Karenina for me, Charlie's Super Mario Quest 2025, the Summers family tree, the Dark Horse Buffy Series, Marvel's Star Wars, Dr Who comics, the Energon Universe, the CLZ collector's app, Malibu Comics' Star Trek… Oh, and sometimes IDW's Star Trek.

OBS
Vad kan fåglarna berätta om en massaker?

OBS

Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2025 10:21


Ett av mer oväntade svaren på andra världskrigets fasor kom från den amerikanska romankonsten. Mattias Hagberg funderar över kriget som fars. Lyssna på alla avsnitt i Sveriges Radio Play. ESSÄ: Detta är en text där skribenten reflekterar över ett ämne eller ett verk. Åsikter som uttrycks är skribentens egna.Mellan den 13 och den 15 februari 1945 genomförde hundratals brittiska och amerikanska bombplan en serie räder mot Dresden, en stad som fram till dess varit förskonad från angrepp.Brandbomberna skapade en eldstorm som förödde stadens centrala delar och tog livet av runt 25 000 civila som gömde sig i källare och skyddsrum.En ung Kurt Vonnegut befann sig i staden. Han var krigsfånge och överlevde tack vare en slump. Tillsammans med ett hundratal andra amerikanska soldater satt han, i brist på interneringsplatser, inspärrad i källaren i ett slakthus i utkanten av centrala Dresden. Han hörde branden, kände värmen, men klarade sig oskadd – åtminstone i fysisk bemärkelse. Efteråt blev han och de andra krigsfångarna beordrade att bistå i uppröjningen av staden. De samlade lik. De grävde fram lik. Staplade lik. Brände lik. Minnena från terrorbombningen av Dresden skulle förfölja Kurt Vonnegut livet ut, som en närmast obegriplig erfarenhet. Gång på gång försökte han, när han etablerat sig som författare hemma i USA, att sätt ord på det han upplevt. Men språket verkade inte räcka till. Eller som han själv skulle komma att uttrycka det: ”… det finns inget intelligent att säga om en massaker.”Till slut, mot 1960-talets sista år, satte han sig ändå ner och skrev. Orden kom till honom, men han var tvungen att gå en omväg. Texten, romanen, tog formen av en fars, en absurd saga, en skruvad komedi. När den publicerades fick den titeln ”Slakthus 5”, och är numera en av världens mest kända krigsromaner. Men den handlar egentligen inte om krig. Den handlar om Billy Pilgrim, en medelålders optiker i efterkrigstidens USA, som blivit kidnappad av utomjordingar och därför kan uppleva alla skeden i sitt liv på en och samma gång. Oupphörligen kastas han fram och tillbaka i tiden, till sin familjs förtvivlan. Det är inte helt enkelt att leva med en tidsresenär.”Slakthus 5” är en roman utan egentlig struktur. Tiden är söndertrasad och intrigen fragmentarisk, men den har ett centrum, en nollpunkt. Billy Pilgrim har, precis som Kurt Vonnegut själv, upplevt terrorbombningarna av Dresden. Men det enda han egentligen har att säga om detta extrema våld är romanens återkommande mantra: ”Så kan det gå.”Billy Pilgrim är en fånig karaktär. Han befinner sig ljusår från de hjältar som blivit stapelvara i fiktionen om andra världskriget. Han är rädd och tafatt. Snubblar fram genom tillvaron och kriget.Lika fånig är Yossarian, huvudpersonen i ”Moment 22”, Joseph Hellers satiriska skildring av en skvadron amerikanska bombflygare under krigets slutskede, med enda skillnaden att Yossarian råkar bomba i stället för att bli bombad.Ja, så kan det gå.I litteraturhistorien brukar ”Slakthus 5” och ”Moment 22” länkas samman med Thomas Pynchons ”Gravitationens regnbåge”. Alla bär de på tydliga och gemensamma drag, såväl stilistiskt som tematiskt. Här finns inga vinnare eller förlorare. Inga hjältar eller skurkar. Inget ont eller gott. Bara en absurd och svåröverskådlig, för att inte säga sönderslagen, verklighet.Här, i dessa verk, är kriget en mörk komedi, en absurd fars, ett postmodernistiskt spektakel. Men inte för att dessa författare är blinda för våldet, smärtan och skräcken – tvärtom. Det finns helt enkelt inget intelligent att säga om en massaker, om ett våld som antagit sådana proportioner, och en sådan teknologisk och byråkratisk förfining, att det mänskliga förståndet upphör att räcka till.Alla tre romanerna rör sig därför i utkanten av kriget. Själva striderna, själva våldet, är aldrig i centrum. Nästan hela ”Slakthus 5” utspelar sig efter krigsslutet, i USA eller i rymden; ”Moment 22” är förlagd till en flygbas på en ö i Medelhavet, långt från de städer som ska bombas; och i ”Gravitationens regnbåge” följer romanens huvudperson, Tyrone Slothrop, kriget på håll, först som underrättelseofficer i London, sen som fredlös på kontinenten dagarna och veckorna efter freden.Det som ska berättas är för smärtsamt för att sägas rakt ut.Humorn, det farsartade i dessa romaner, går att förstå på samma sätt. Det traumatiska, det som gör så ont att språket bryter samman, går bara att närma sig på omvägar – genom att ställa världen på huvudet, genom att vända ut och in på det invanda.I ”Moment 22” är krigets logik vrängd till en skrattspegel. Huvudpersonen Yossarian försöker genom hela romanen bli befriad från tjänstgöring eftersom alla i kriget vill mörda honom; tyskarna skjuter på hans plan så fort de får chansen, och hans egna befäl envisas med att skicka honom på livsfarliga uppdrag med en enda förklaring: att kriget, nationen och framtiden kräver hans mod. Men, undrar Yossarian, gång på gång: ”Vad är det för mening med att vinna kriget om jag själv är död.”Och dö kommer han nästan givet att göra eftersom hans befäl oavbrutet lägger till nya uppdrag för att gynna sina egna karriärer i den militära byråkratin. Nej, Yossarian kan inte komma undan. Hans förståelse för krigets absoluta vansinne är ett bevis på att han är mentalt frisk, och därmed kapabel att fortsätta flyga och fortsätta bomba stad efter stad. Det är denna regel som är moment 22.Samma princip, samma galna logik, genomsyrar på sätt och vis även ”Slakthus 5” och ”Gravitationens regnbåge”. Det moderna kriget, präglat av massförstörelse, byråkrati och statistik, har inget heroiskt över sig. Här finns inga segrar eller förluster. Bara en närmast oändlig förmåga att förstöra.Yossarian väljer till slut att desertera. Han flyr för att ta sig till det neutrala Sverige, men läsaren får aldrig reda på om han lyckas. På romanens sista sida står det bara att han försvann. Samma sak händer i ”Gravitationens regnbåge”. Mot slutet av Thomas Pynchons väldiga roman är det som om huvudpersonen Tyrone Slothrop långsamt upphör att finnas till. Hans identitet blir alltmer upplöst, hans förmåga att agera alltmer otydlig. Till slut är han också försvunnen.Ja, total utplåning är det moderna krigets etos.Kurt Vonnegut beskriver det enda som återstår: ”Alla förutsätts vara döda, aldrig säga någonting eller önska någonting mer. Allting förutsätts vara mycket tyst efter en massaker, och är det också alltid, om man bortser från fåglarna. Och vad säger då fåglarna? Allt som går att säga om en massaker, sådant som 'Poo-tii-viit?'”Så kan det gå.Mattias Hagbergförfattare, journalist och lektor i litterär gestaltning

Truth Wanted
Truth Wanted 08.19 05-09-2025 with ObjectivelyDan and @kaysemelone

Truth Wanted

Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2025 83:51


In today's episode of the Truth Wanted, ObjectivelyDan and Kayse Melone jump into hell to find it does not exist. They then sort through ways of telling people they are wrong and the merits of an atheist evangelizing in a church. Sven in WA has some questions about the value of the soul from a Christian point of view and god as an entity vs. a mind. How useful is it to believe in the concept of a soul? Sven also has a second question about the Pope's belief in hell and the infernalist mindset causing religious trauma. How would things change if masses of people stopped believing in hell? There is plenty of suffering in the here and now; how can we focus on easing that suffering now?  Bob in MS wants to know how to tell someone wrong in a good way, a flip on our question of the week. Starting with common ground and using empathy will get you further than picking apart the logic. When we start with empathetic questions, we find similarities. Understanding how people get their truths matters, and if you can examine a claim together by asking how they got to the claim can be effective. These types of conversations are not encouraged in church environments. Giving people tools to help them realize where their ideas are coming from can help them liberate themselves from their false beliefs, even if it takes some time. Check yourself: What is the purpose of telling someone they are wrong?Billy Pilgrim in TX reminds us of how hard it is to get people to believe the truth when they want to believe in other things. People have an investment in these beliefs and oftentimes feel trapped. They may not have a concept of what it is like to be an atheist and do good things. What kind of bandwidth and time does it take to be a truth seeker? How would an atheist within a church provide a benefit?Thank you for tuning in this week! Kelley Laughlin, our backup host joins to close us out and deliver the We Want The Truth segment of the week: What is a bad way to tell someone that they are wrong? We will see you next time!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/truth-wanted--3195473/support.

Great American Novel
Episode 32: Watching the Flames from Slaughterhouse-Five

Great American Novel

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2025 87:31


In Episode 32 of the Great American Novel podcast, we slip through time with Billy Pilgrim as we shuffle between the character's experiences as a prisoner of war and first hand witness to the Dresden firebombing in World War II and then trip the light fantastic to the far flung planet Tralfamadore.  Or…do we?  Yes, this episode has your intrepid explorers hiding in Kurt Vonnegut's masterful 1969 post-modern novel SLAUGHTERHOUSE-FIVE. We ponder the author's central questions: are all war novels doomed to sensationalize war?  Can you capture such a horrific experience realistically? Must we become automatons to survive wars?  The Great American Novel podcast is an ongoing discussion about the novels we hold up as significant achievements in our American literary culture.  Additionally, we sometimes suggest novels who should break into the sometimes problematical canon and at other times we'll suggest books which can be dropped from such lofty consideration.  Your hosts are Kirk Curnutt and Scott Yarbrough, professors with little time and less sense who nonetheless enjoy a good book banter.  All opinions are their own and do not reflect the points of view of their employers, publishers, relatives, pets, or accountants. All show music is by Lobo Loco.  The intro song is “Old Ralley,” and the outro is “Inspector Invisible.”  For more information visit: https://locolobomusic.com/.  The trailer clips are from the film adaptation, Slaughterhouse-Five, adapted in a screenplay by Stephen Geller, dir. George Roy Hill.We may be contacted at greatamericannovelpodcast (@) gmail.com.

A vivir que son dos días
La píldora de Tallón | Cómo deshacer un error

A vivir que son dos días

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2025 3:21


Inventar la manera de deshacer un error, sin importar cuál, sería la máxima conquista del progreso. Más que eso no se podría inventar nada. Me refiero a revertir el error textualmente. Es decir, que después de caer en él, pudieses caminar hacia atrás, desmontando el desastre hasta alcanzar el instante del pasado en el que tu acción comienza, y aún no apareció el fallo. En los ordenadores ese espíritu lo representa la tecla Deshacer, con la que borras lo que haga falta. En Matadero cinco, de Kurt Vonnegut, hay un momento en que el protagonista de la novela, Billy Pilgrim, se pone a ver una película hacia atrás. Es una peli sobre los bombardeos americanos en la II Guerra Mundial. El efecto es fascinante. Pilgrim ve cómo los aviones norteamericanos, llenos de agujeros, hombres heridos y cadáveres despegan hacia atrás en un aeródromo inglés. Vuelan hacia una ciudad alemana en llamas. A su altura, los bombarderos abren las compuertas de las bombas y ejercen «un milagroso magnetismo» que encoge los incendios y los comprime en contenedores cilíndricos de acero, alzándolos hasta el vientre de los aviones. Al llegar a la base, los cilindros se envían de vuelta a EE.UU., donde hay fábricas que separan sus peligrosos componentes en minerales. Al principio de la película los pilotos devuelven sus uniformes y se convierten en estudiantes de instituto. Y Hitler, seguramente, se transforma en un bebé. No suelen acabar así los desastres, pero es bonito imaginar que el lunes Trump y Putin empiezan a caminar hacia atrás, a cámara rápida, hasta un día acabar en el vientre de sus madres, de donde fue una pena que salieran.

Drinks in the Library
Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut with Kat McCleese

Drinks in the Library

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2025


Today we're stepping into the surreal, tragic, and darkly comedic world of Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five—a story about war, time travel, and what it means to say, 'So it goes.' My guest this week is Kat McClesse. Kat is an Archaeologist with her M.A. in Bioarchaeology and an amateur photographer. Slaughterhouse Five has been one of her favorite books since childhood and sparked a lifelong interest in activism and human rights. She's has a passion for horror and has driven her fiance insane with "too many books" (his words). They live in Tuckahoe, Virginia with their 2 cats. The protagonist of this story is Billy Pilgrim, a veteran of WWII who becomes unstuck in time. An important moment in the story is where time is explained as a bug caught in amber, so we paired it with an “Amber Old Fashioned” Amber Old Fashioned Recipe (from vinepair.com)1 ounce bourbon1 ounce rich aged rum1 tablespoon simple syrup1 dash peach bitters1 dash Angostura bittersGarnish: Citrus peel Directions Add all ingredients to a mixing glass with ice and stir until chilled.Strain into a rocks glass with fresh ice.Garnish with citrus peel. In This EpisodeThe Things They Carried by Tim O'BrienUnbroken by Laura HillenbrandThe Writer's Crusade by Tom RostonI Am Malala by Malala YousafzaiSlaughterhouse Five: the Graphic Novel by Ryan North and Albert Montes

Jizz Talking
2025 X3 / AVN Preview Show - 1/12/2025

Jizz Talking

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2025 59:02


A new year and new outlook and for many a time to re-brand. We are talking about the X3 / AVN Preview Show! Our 1/12/2025 show featured some veterans like Christy Canyon, James Bartholet, Gauge and Ruby Lynne, but included some newer folks who will be going as well. Billy Pilgrim, Bridget Daniels, Crystal Sparks and Dani Sinclair will be on hand as well. Also chiming in on the topic was Lorenzo, Darby Dee and seen but not heard, Richard Pacheco who was having computer issues. We hope everyone going to either show remains safe and especially for the folks attending X3 in Hollywood due to the fires.

Philosophy at the Movies
Slaughterhouse Five

Philosophy at the Movies

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2024 40:26


How does this 1972 film, based on the Kurt Vonnegut novel, play with the notion of involuntary and random time travel, and force us to consider what impact such a life would have on one's attitudes toward pain, suffering and tragedy? What do the Tralfamadorians think about death, and how does Billy Pilgrim's attitude mirror it after he has been abducted and held by this alien race? How does the film represent time as a fourth dimension, on par with the three spatial dimensions, all parts of time, all periods in history, already existing? How does this film compare to the film Arrival, which also toys with this view of space/time? How does the novel and film reflect Vonnegut's own experiences as a POW during the bombing of Dresden Germany in the last months of WWII? How does it reflect attitudes toward the then contemporaneous Vietnam war? Why does Vonnegut claim Dresden had been declared an open city when it was not so declared, and why does he believe that hundreds of thousands were killed during those raids when ten to twenty thousand was the actual number?

Jizz Talking
Jared Stearns - 11/24/2024

Jizz Talking

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2024 78:48


We were very honored to host Jared Stearns, the author who wrote the book Pure on our 11/24/2024 Zoom Show. Marilyn Chambers was a very revered adult film star and was a pioneer in the industry. We chatted with Jared about the book writing process and how the book has gone over with her fans. In addition to Jared, we brought back a former guest, Billy Pilgrim to talk about his new movie that he has released. To tie everything together, Billy is an avid book reader and just purchased the book Pure from Amazon last week, so he will also share his thoughts on the book as well. Along with Billy, a number of other folks shared their stories of Marilyn and/or the book, including Jon Martin who co-starred with her in Behind The Green Door, Richard Pacheco who co-starred with her in the movie Up N' Coming, Lorenzo and FoXXXy Darlin'. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jizztalking/support

Jizz Talking
Venus Rising

Jizz Talking

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2024 56:50


Sometimes I wonder why I promote the next week's guest as lately everyone has been coming down with a sickness, but Venus Rising stepped up on our 10/13/2024 Zoom Show and rescued us. Venus claims she has the best of both worlds, being a MILF and a BBW. Recently she did a movie with Billy Pilgrim that was very hot and she talked about the various platforms she is on. I met her in Miami in June of 2024 and she lit up the room and EVERYONE knew who she was! Along with Venus Rising, Lorenzo and Richard Pacheco stopped by to chat it up as well. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jizztalking/support

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge
Bonus Smoke: Panties ,Fluffing, And Porn With A Fox

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2024 77:42


This week I interview Laci Fox, she a former Panty girl now Porn Star. We talk about her and her doing extreme fetishes and her getting into business first as a lady who sold panties to being a fluff girl for Tadpole Films where she sucked 37dicks. We discuss her shoots with Billy Pilgrim to her major shoots with some of the top companies. Want More Content. 2 ways to get it 1. Subscribe my Savage Smoke Sessions on Spotify ( $4.99 a month) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/smokethisova/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 2. Become A Premium Smoker Subscribe to the Premium Smoke Room On Loyalfans ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.loyalfans.com/PremiumSmokeRoom Want More Content. Become a Premium Smoker ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for 5 Premium Podcasts , 3 Tiers starting at $4.99 a month Sponsored By ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://eroticismmagazine.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠blusherotica.com/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Porn/ Music/ Social Media ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://allmylinks.com/pornrapstar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get The Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bonfire.com/store/s-t-o-merch-store/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Guest: Laci Fox https://twitter.com/LaciFoxx linktr.ee/LaciFoxx --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/smokethisova/message

Vuelo 616: Comic Airlines – La tecnologería
#54 - Matadero 5 de Ryan North y Albert Monteys

Vuelo 616: Comic Airlines – La tecnologería

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2024 117:40


Viajamos en el tiempo de la mano de Matadero 5, una ingeniosa adaptación de la novela homónima de Kurt Vonnegut, guionazada por Ryan North y con Albert Monteys al dibujo. De la mano de Billy Pilgrim, experimentaremos la Segunda Guerra Mundial y los mundos alienígenas de Tralfamadore. Una mezcla magistral de ciencia ficción, humor, drama […] Lee la entrada completa en #54 - Matadero 5 de Ryan North y Albert Monteys.

Jizz Talking
Chicago Exxxotica Preview 2024 - 4/7/2024

Jizz Talking

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2024 60:49


My favorite time of the year is the Exxxotica in Chicago. We highlighted a few of the stars who will be at the show on our 4/7/2024 preview show, which is a great time to hear what is new with the entertainers as we kick off the 2024 round of Exxxotica events. Hope you all can stop by the Signatures After Dark / Jizz Talking booth, which is 739 and is next to the Loyal Fans Spotlight Booth. We can't wait to see you. Stopping by to say HI were Stella Carter, Lorenzo, Victoria Peaks, Billy Pilgrim, Missy Deep, Laci Foxx, Jiggy Jaguar, Brittany, Micky Lynn, Fallon Jane, James Bartholet and Evan Stone! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jizztalking/support

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge
Bonus Smoke: I Am BBW Lite So Please Be Gentle With Me

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2024 52:11


This week I Interview Iona Normal she is a sexy PAWG next door making a name in the business. We discuss her breaking into the business during the Pandemic thru a friends girlfriend after a break up from a long relationship. We discuss her first shoot with Killer Kram and Billy Pilgrim and how she prefer more sensual sex scenes because of her physical condition and building her brand as a pornstar. Subscribe To The Premium Smoke Room ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.loyalfans.com/PremiumSmokeRoom⁠ Want More Content. Become a Premium Smoker ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for 5 Premium Podcasts , 3 Sexy Co-Host and Special Event Episodes and more at $24.99 a month. Get Premium Smoke Perks and followers on Loyalfans get a 50% discount to subscribe to The Premium Smoke Room. Limited Time Only. Sponsored By ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lsswirl.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://eroticismmagazine.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.xsitebunny.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠blusherotica.com/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Proud Member of The G.W. District Black Podcast Network ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.shopgwdistrict.com/pages/podcast-network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Porn/ Music/ Social Media ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://allmylinks.com/pornrapstar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get The Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bonfire.com/store/s-t-o-merch-store/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Guest: Iona Normal https://twitter.com/GigglesIona iona-normal.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/smokethisova/message

Jizz Talking
X3 - AVN Preview Show - 1/14/2024

Jizz Talking

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2024 61:59


It's that time of year where we talk to the stars who are headed west to either the X3 Show or the AVN Weekend Event. Our 1/14/24 Zoom Show wanted to get ahead of the action and find out what the people who are going plan do have in their booths or what type of promotions they were going to have. We've covered both before in the past, and it was always a popular show with several of our guests being named as AVN Award Nominees -- INCLUDING, "Jizz Talking!" Our guests included... Missy Deep, Victoria Peaks, Billy Pilgrim, James Bartholet, Lorenzo, Richard Pacheco, Christy Canyon and Ginger Lynn for a fun filled evening! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jizztalking/support

Viva Sci-Fi
EP 78 - Matadouro 5 - Kurt Vonnegut

Viva Sci-Fi

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2024 38:14


No episódio de hoje, Tiago Meira e Fabio Fernandes falam sobre o clássico de Kurt Vonnegut, “Matadouro 5”. Conheça Billy Pilgrim, personagem principal que presenciou o bombardeio a cidade de Dresden na Alemanha durante a segunda guerra mundial, viaja no tempo e alega ter sido abduzido por aliens.  Siga o Viva Sci-Fi no Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vivascifi/ Siga o Viva Sci-Fi no Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/vivascifi Canal no youtube do Fabio Fernandes: https://www.youtube.com/@TerraIncognitaBooksNStuff Arte e produção: Carolina Meroni Trilha Sonora: Mateus Castilhos

Questioning the Canon
Slaughterhouse-Five or The Children's Crusade

Questioning the Canon

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2023 82:06


It can be hard putting your life back together after the traumas of war, especially if you are perceiving different portions of your life out of order. Or at least you think you are. Come unstuck with us as we wander passively through the life and times of Billy Pilgrim in Slaughterhouse-Five and the many events that were inspired from author Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.'s life. We had a blast talking about aliens, post-modernism, and current treatments for ancient psychiatric conditions. Listen along with us and so it will go.

Time Pop
S4 Ep26: Slaughterhouse-Five (1972)

Time Pop

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2023 45:17


“Slaughterhouse-Five is a 1972 American comedy-drama military science fiction film directed by George Roy Hill and produced by Paul Monash, from a screenplay by Stephen Geller, based on the 1969 novel of the same name by Kurt Vonnegut.[1] The film stars Michael Sacks as Billy Pilgrim, who is "unstuck in time" and has no control over where he is going next. It also stars Ron Leibman as Paul Lazzaro and Valerie Perrine as Montana Wildhack.”  - Factually Exclaims wikipedia.org “Gammalt hederligt fantasifoster, en saga verkligen! Kör den här som en dubbelmacka före eller efter Harold & Maude och Du kommer förstÃ¥ dina föräldrars generation... mindre!” -  TRANSLATION Old honorable fantasy, a fairy tale indeed! Drive it here as a double sandwich before or after Harold & Maude and You will understand your parents' generation... less! - rottentomatoes.com "fuck the war i want more alien shit"  - letterbxd “Billy as a child is thrown in a pool by a bunch of men so he can learn to swim (well he doesn't)”   - Warns doesthedogdie.com

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge
There's Money In SFW

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2023 60:36


This week I'm joined by Big Big Cherry. We discuss IHeartBBW starting a magazine which is more pin up and eye candy and Safe for work. This leads us to discussion about Safe For Work content and how it helps ladies make more money and more marketable for advertisers. Plus we discuss her shoot with Billy Pilgrim and her upcoming shoots and her appearance at Exxxotica Chicago. You  can only see the video version of this episode on Spotify Want More Content. Become a Premium Smoker ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://anchor.fm/smokethisova/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠ for 5 Premium Podcasts and Special episodes ($4.99 a month) Sponsored By ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lsswirl.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://eroticismmagazine.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.xsitebunny.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠blusherotica.com/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠ Proud Member of The G.W. District Black Podcast Network ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.shopgwdistrict.com/pages/podcast-network⁠⁠⁠⁠ Porn/ Music/ Social Media ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://allmylinks.com/pornrapstar⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get The Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bonfire.com/store/s-t-o-merch-store/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Guest: Big Big Cherry https://twitter.com/BigBigCherry bigbigcherry.com IHeartBBW Magazine http://iheartbbw.com/ Enter Promo Code: Cherry Get 10% off --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/smokethisova/message

Jizz Talking
Miami Exxxotica Preview 2023 - 7/9/2023

Jizz Talking

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2023 62:13


Exxxotica Preview Shows are always fun and the 7/9/2023 preview show was no exception. A wide variety of guests and stars make the weekend a success for all who attend. Joining us tonight included Rebel Rhyder, Lorenzo, Billy Pilgrim, Sean Elliot, Rex Radiation, Victoria Peaks, Tad Pole, Missy Deep, Micky Lynn, Richard Pacheco, James Bartholet and Christy Canyon! A wide variety of questions and answers were asked and given! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jizztalking/support

Mark And Sarah Talk About Songs
First-Name Basis, Episode 5: Multi-Name Songs

Mark And Sarah Talk About Songs

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2023 60:00


Welcome to the intermission of our First-Name Basis season -- in which we're contemplating important songs with more than one name in them, and ranking them, too! And while this ep is dropping in the middle of the season, we actually recorded it first, so if it seems like we're working through our metrics for what's iconic when it comes to name songs...we are! Time is a flat pop chart! We're also talking about disco murder ballads, the underrepresentation of men's names in this season, why John Cougar is like Erica Kane, Gap khakis, song prequels, and justice for Cotton-Eye Joe. Before you write your congressperson a letter about banishing the word "dump" from pop songs, listen to our latest episode! Our intro is [deep breath] Elliott Smith, Ben Folds, Andrew Byrne, Laura Barger, AND Jack Baldelli, and our outro is Billy Pilgrim. For more information/to become a patron of the show, visit patreon.com/mastas. SHOW NOTES Not sure what's going on here? Start at the beginning of the season America's Damp 40, Episode 1 Episode 146: John Cougar, "Pink Houses"

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge
Took A Step Back And Now She Ready To Move Forward

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2023 62:24


This week I'm joined by Abbi Rhodes. We discussed her questioning herself when it came to porn. Then we discuss her moving from a raciest town and her experience living there. She talks about working with Billy Pilgrim and Semaji plus more You can only see the video version of this episode on Spotify Want More Content. Become a Premium Smoker https://anchor.fm/smokethisova/subscribe for 6 Premium Podcasts and Special episodes ($4.99 a month) Sponsored By https://lsswirl.com/ https://eroticismmagazine.com/ https://www.xsitebunny.com/ blusherotica.com/videos Proud Member of The G.W. District Black Podcast Network https://www.shopgwdistrict.com/pages/podcast-network Porn/ Music/ Social Media https://allmylinks.com/pornrapstar Get The Merch: https://www.bonfire.com/store/s-t-o-merch-store/ Guest: Abbi Rhodes https://twitter.com/LadyARhodes1 onlyfans.com/sexyabbi --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/smokethisova/message

Alien Murder Sex
Episode 30: "Sex Work Saves Lives" With Billy Pilgrim XXX

Alien Murder Sex

Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2023 81:46


You are listening to Alien Murder Sex  ⁠linktr.ee/alienmurdersex⁠ With hosts: Lauryn Petrie: https://linktr.ee/thelaurynpetrie⁠ Adrianne Kuss: https://linktr.ee/Giveyourhairakiss⁠ Welcome to our subversive style of dark comedy! Comedian Lauryn Petrie and Punk rock star & hairdresser Adrianne Kuss talk true crime, aliens, and review a porn at the end of every episode. ALL THE TRIGGER WARNINGS NSFW!! On this episode we have porn star Billy Pilgrim XXX Check out his Twitter ---> BillyPilgrimXXX ___________________________________________________ Please check out our Sponsor Protection Avenue and use code: AlienMurderSex666 for 10% off! ⁠https://www.protectionavenue.com/collections/shop-keychains⁠ Please check out our friends at TromaNow Troma Now! Steaming: ⁠https://watch.troma.com/ _____________________________________ If there's anything else you'd like us to cover in the show notes, please tell us in the comments. Send us hate/love mail that we can read on air: AlienMurderSex@gmail.com

A History Of Rock Music in Five Hundred Songs
Episode 165: “Dark Star” by the Grateful Dead

A History Of Rock Music in Five Hundred Songs

Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2023


Episode 165 of A History of Rock Music in Five Hundred Songs looks at “Dark Stat” and the career of the Grateful Dead. This is a long one, even longer than the previous episode, but don't worry, that won't be the norm. There's a reason these two were much longer than average. Click the full post to read liner notes, links to more information, and a transcript of the episode. Patreon backers also have a twenty-minute bonus episode available, on "Codine" by the Charlatans. Errata I mispronounce Brent Mydland's name as Myland a couple of times, and in the introduction I say "Touch of Grey" came out in 1988 -- I later, correctly, say 1987. (I seem to have had a real problem with dates in the intro -- I also originally talked about "Blue Suede Shoes" being in 1954 before fixing it in the edit to be 1956) Resources No Mixcloud this week, as there are too many songs by the Grateful Dead, and Grayfolded runs to two hours. I referred to a lot of books for this episode, partly because almost everything about the Grateful Dead is written from a fannish perspective that already assumes background knowledge, rather than to provide that background knowledge. Of the various books I used, Dennis McNally's biography of the band and This Is All a Dream We Dreamed: An Oral History of the Grateful Dead by Blair Jackson and David Gans are probably most useful for the casually interested. Other books on the Dead I used included McNally's Jerry on Jerry, a collection of interviews with Garcia; Deal, Bill Kreutzmann's autobiography; The Grateful Dead FAQ by Tony Sclafani; So Many Roads by David Browne; Deadology by Howard F. Weiner; Fare Thee Well by Joel Selvin and Pamela Turley; and Skeleton Key: A Dictionary for Deadheads by David Shenk and Steve Silberman. Tom Wolfe's The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is the classic account of the Pranksters, though not always reliable. I reference Slaughterhouse Five a lot. As well as the novel itself, which everyone should read, I also read this rather excellent graphic novel adaptation, and The Writer's Crusade, a book about the writing of the novel. I also reference Ted Sturgeon's More Than Human. For background on the scene around Astounding Science Fiction which included Sturgeon, John W. Campbell, L. Ron Hubbard, and many other science fiction writers, I recommend Alec Nevala-Lee's Astounding. 1,000 True Fans can be read online, as can the essay on the Californian ideology, and John Perry Barlow's "Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace". The best collection of Grateful Dead material is the box set The Golden Road, which contains all the albums released in Pigpen's lifetime along with a lot of bonus material, but which appears currently out of print. Live/Dead contains both the live version of "Dark Star" which made it well known and, as a CD bonus track, the original single version. And archive.org has more live recordings of the group than you can possibly ever listen to. Grayfolded can be bought from John Oswald's Bandcamp Patreon This podcast is brought to you by the generosity of my backers on Patreon. Why not join them? Transcript [Excerpt: Tuning from "Grayfolded", under the warnings Before we begin -- as we're tuning up, as it were, I should mention that this episode contains discussions of alcoholism, drug addiction, racism, nonconsensual drugging of other people, and deaths from drug abuse, suicide, and car accidents. As always, I try to deal with these subjects as carefully as possible, but if you find any of those things upsetting you may wish to read the transcript rather than listen to this episode, or skip it altogether. Also, I should note that the members of the Grateful Dead were much freer with their use of swearing in interviews than any other band we've covered so far, and that makes using quotes from them rather more difficult than with other bands, given the limitations of the rules imposed to stop the podcast being marked as adult. If I quote anything with a word I can't use here, I'll give a brief pause in the audio, and in the transcript I'll have the word in square brackets. [tuning ends] All this happened, more or less. In 1910, T. S. Eliot started work on "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock", which at the time was deemed barely poetry, with one reviewer imagining Eliot saying "I'll just put down the first thing that comes into my head, and call it 'The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock.'" It is now considered one of the great classics of modernist literature. In 1969, Kurt Vonnegut wrote "Slaughterhouse-Five, or, The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance with Death", a book in which the protagonist, Billy Pilgrim, comes unstuck in time, and starts living a nonlinear life, hopping around between times reliving his experiences in the Second World War, and future experiences up to 1976 after being kidnapped by beings from the planet Tralfamadore. Or perhaps he has flashbacks and hallucinations after having a breakdown from PTSD. It is now considered one of the great classics of modernist literature or of science fiction, depending on how you look at it. In 1953, Theodore Sturgeon wrote More Than Human. It is now considered one of the great classics of science fiction. In 1950, L. Ron Hubbard wrote Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health. It is now considered either a bad piece of science fiction or one of the great revelatory works of religious history, depending on how you look at it. In 1994, 1995, and 1996 the composer John Oswald released, first as two individual CDs and then as a double-CD, an album called Grayfolded, which the composer says in the liner notes he thinks of as existing in Tralfamadorian time. The Tralfamadorians in Vonnegut's novels don't see time as a linear thing with a beginning and end, but as a continuum that they can move between at will. When someone dies, they just think that at this particular point in time they're not doing so good, but at other points in time they're fine, so why focus on the bad time? In the book, when told of someone dying, the Tralfamadorians just say "so it goes". In between the first CD's release and the release of the double-CD version, Jerry Garcia died. From August 1942 through August 1995, Jerry Garcia was alive. So it goes. Shall we go, you and I? [Excerpt: The Grateful Dead, "Dark Star (Omni 3/30/94)"] "One principle has become clear. Since motives are so frequently found in combination, it is essential that the complex types be analyzed and arranged, with an eye kept single nevertheless to the master-theme under discussion. Collectors, both primary and subsidiary, have done such valiant service that the treasures at our command are amply sufficient for such studies, so extensive, indeed, that the task of going through them thoroughly has become too great for the unassisted student. It cannot be too strongly urged that a single theme in its various types and compounds must be made predominant in any useful comparative study. This is true when the sources and analogues of any literary work are treated; it is even truer when the bare motive is discussed. The Grateful Dead furnishes an apt illustration of the necessity of such handling. It appears in a variety of different combinations, almost never alone. Indeed, it is so widespread a tale, and its combinations are so various, that there is the utmost difficulty in determining just what may properly be regarded the original kernel of it, the simple theme to which other motives were joined. Various opinions, as we shall see, have been held with reference to this matter, most of them justified perhaps by the materials in the hands of the scholars holding them, but none quite adequate in view of later evidence." That's a quote from The Grateful Dead: The History of a Folk Story, by Gordon Hall Gerould, published in 1908. Kurt Vonnegut's novel Slaughterhouse-Five opens with a chapter about the process of writing the novel itself, and how difficult it was. He says "I would hate to tell you what this lousy little book cost me in money and anxiety and time. When I got home from the Second World War twenty-three years ago, I thought it would be easy for me to write about the destruction of Dresden, since all I would have to do would be to report what I had seen. And I thought, too, that it would be a masterpiece or at least make me a lot of money, since the subject was so big." This is an episode several of my listeners have been looking forward to, but it's one I've been dreading writing, because this is an episode -- I think the only one in the series -- where the format of the podcast simply *will not* work. Were the Grateful Dead not such an important band, I would skip this episode altogether, but they're a band that simply can't be ignored, and that's a real problem here. Because my intent, always, with this podcast, is to present the recordings of the artists in question, put them in context, and explain why they were important, what their music meant to its listeners. To put, as far as is possible, the positive case for why the music mattered *in the context of its time*. Not why it matters now, or why it matters to me, but why it matters *in its historical context*. Whether I like the music or not isn't the point. Whether it stands up now isn't the point. I play the music, explain what it was they were doing, why they were doing it, what people saw in it. If I do my job well, you come away listening to "Blue Suede Shoes" the way people heard it in 1956, or "Good Vibrations" the way people heard it in 1966, and understanding why people were so impressed by those records. That is simply *not possible* for the Grateful Dead. I can present a case for them as musicians, and hope to do so. I can explain the appeal as best I understand it, and talk about things I like in their music, and things I've noticed. But what I can't do is present their recordings the way they were received in the sixties and explain why they were popular. Because every other act I have covered or will cover in this podcast has been a *recording* act, and their success was based on records. They may also have been exceptional live performers, but James Brown or Ike and Tina Turner are remembered for great *records*, like "Papa's Got a Brand New Bag" or "River Deep, Mountain High". Their great moments were captured on vinyl, to be listened back to, and susceptible of analysis. That is not the case for the Grateful Dead, and what is worse *they explicitly said, publicly, on multiple occasions* that it is not possible for me to understand their art, and thus that it is not possible for me to explain it. The Grateful Dead did make studio records, some of them very good. But they always said, consistently, over a thirty year period, that their records didn't capture what they did, and that the only way -- the *only* way, they were very clear about this -- that one could actually understand and appreciate their music, was to see them live, and furthermore to see them live while on psychedelic drugs. [Excerpt: Grateful Dead crowd noise] I never saw the Grateful Dead live -- their last UK performance was a couple of years before I went to my first ever gig -- and I have never taken a psychedelic substance. So by the Grateful Dead's own criteria, it is literally impossible for me to understand or explain their music the way that it should be understood or explained. In a way I'm in a similar position to the one I was in with La Monte Young in the last episode, whose music it's mostly impossible to experience without being in his presence. This is one reason of several why I placed these two episodes back to back. Of course, there is a difference between Young and the Grateful Dead. The Grateful Dead allowed -- even encouraged -- the recording of their live performances. There are literally thousands of concert recordings in circulation, many of them of professional quality. I have listened to many of those, and I can hear what they were doing. I can tell you what *I* think is interesting about their music, and about their musicianship. And I think I can build up a good case for why they were important, and why they're interesting, and why those recordings are worth listening to. And I can certainly explain the cultural phenomenon that was the Grateful Dead. But just know that while I may have found *a* point, *an* explanation for why the Grateful Dead were important, by the band's own lights and those of their fans, no matter how good a job I do in this episode, I *cannot* get it right. And that is, in itself, enough of a reason for this episode to exist, and for me to try, even harder than I normally do, to get it right *anyway*. Because no matter how well I do my job this episode will stand as an example of why this series is called "*A* History", not *the* history. Because parts of the past are ephemeral. There are things about which it's true to say "You had to be there". I cannot know what it was like to have been an American the day Kennedy was shot, I cannot know what it was like to be alive when a man walked on the Moon. Those are things nobody my age or younger can ever experience. And since August the ninth, 1995, the experience of hearing the Grateful Dead's music the way they wanted it heard has been in that category. And that is by design. Jerry Garcia once said "if you work really hard as an artist, you may be able to build something they can't tear down, you know, after you're gone... What I want to do is I want it here. I want it now, in this lifetime. I want what I enjoy to last as long as I do and not last any longer. You know, I don't want something that ends up being as much a nuisance as it is a work of art, you know?" And there's another difficulty. There are only two points in time where it makes sense to do a podcast episode on the Grateful Dead -- late 1967 and early 1968, when the San Francisco scene they were part of was at its most culturally relevant, and 1988 when they had their only top ten hit and gained their largest audience. I can't realistically leave them out of the story until 1988, so it has to be 1968. But the songs they are most remembered for are those they wrote between 1970 and 1972, and those songs are influenced by artists and events we haven't yet covered in the podcast, who will be getting their own episodes in the future. I can't explain those things in this episode, because they need whole episodes of their own. I can't not explain them without leaving out important context for the Grateful Dead. So the best I can do is treat the story I'm telling as if it were in Tralfamadorian time. All of it's happening all at once, and some of it is happening in different episodes that haven't been recorded yet. The podcast as a whole travels linearly from 1938 through to 1999, but this episode is happening in 1968 and 1972 and 1988 and 1995 and other times, all at once. Sometimes I'll talk about things as if you're already familiar with them, but they haven't happened yet in the story. Feel free to come unstuck in time and revisit this time after episode 167, and 172, and 176, and 192, and experience it again. So this has to be an experimental episode. It may well be an experiment that you think fails. If so, the next episode is likely to be far more to your taste, and much shorter than this or the last episode, two episodes that between them have to create a scaffolding on which will hang much of the rest of this podcast's narrative. I've finished my Grateful Dead script now. The next one I write is going to be fun: [Excerpt: Grateful Dead, "Dark Star"] Infrastructure means everything. How we get from place to place, how we transport goods, information, and ourselves, makes a big difference in how society is structured, and in the music we hear. For many centuries, the prime means of long-distance transport was by water -- sailing ships on the ocean, canal boats and steamboats for inland navigation -- and so folk songs talked about the ship as both means of escape, means of making a living, and in some senses as a trap. You'd go out to sea for adventure, or to escape your problems, but you'd find that the sea itself brought its own problems. Because of this we have a long, long tradition of sea shanties which are known throughout the world: [Excerpt: A. L. Lloyd, "Off to Sea Once More"] But in the nineteenth century, the railway was invented and, at least as far as travel within a landmass goes, it replaced the steamboat in the popular imaginary. Now the railway was how you got from place to place, and how you moved freight from one place to another. The railway brought freedom, and was an opportunity for outlaws, whether train robbers or a romanticised version of the hobo hopping onto a freight train and making his way to new lands and new opportunity. It was the train that brought soldiers home from wars, and the train that allowed the Great Migration of Black people from the South to the industrial North. There would still be songs about the riverboats, about how ol' man river keeps rolling along and about the big river Johnny Cash sang about, but increasingly they would be songs of the past, not the present. The train quickly replaced the steamboat in the iconography of what we now think of as roots music -- blues, country, folk, and early jazz music. Sometimes this was very literal. Furry Lewis' "Kassie Jones" -- about a legendary train driver who would break the rules to make sure his train made the station on time, but who ended up sacrificing his own life to save his passengers in a train crash -- is based on "Alabamy Bound", which as we heard in the episode on "Stagger Lee", was about steamboats: [Excerpt: Furry Lewis, "Kassie Jones"] In the early episodes of this podcast we heard many, many, songs about the railway. Louis Jordan saying "take me right back to the track, Jack", Rosetta Tharpe singing about how "this train don't carry no gamblers", the trickster freight train driver driving on the "Rock Island Line", the mystery train sixteen coaches long, the train that kept-a-rollin' all night long, the Midnight Special which the prisoners wished would shine its ever-loving light on them, and the train coming past Folsom Prison whose whistle makes Johnny Cash hang his head and cry. But by the 1960s, that kind of song had started to dry up. It would happen on occasion -- "People Get Ready" by the Impressions is the most obvious example of the train metaphor in an important sixties record -- but by the late sixties the train was no longer a symbol of freedom but of the past. In 1969 Harry Nilsson sang about how "Nobody Cares About the Railroads Any More", and in 1968 the Kinks sang about "The Last of the Steam-Powered Trains". When in 1968 Merle Haggard sang about a freight train, it was as a memory, of a child with hopes that ended up thwarted by reality and his own nature: [Excerpt: Merle Haggard, "Mama Tried"] And the reason for this was that there had been another shift, a shift that had started in the forties and accelerated in the late fifties but had taken a little time to ripple through the culture. Now the train had been replaced in the popular imaginary by motorised transport. Instead of hopping on a train without paying, if you had no money in your pocket you'd have to hitch-hike all the way. Freedom now meant individuality. The ultimate in freedom was the biker -- the Hell's Angels who could go anywhere, unburdened by anything -- and instead of goods being moved by freight train, increasingly they were being moved by truck drivers. By the mid-seventies, truck drivers took a central place in American life, and the most romantic way to live life was to live it on the road. On The Road was also the title of a 1957 novel by Jack Kerouac, which was one of the first major signs of this cultural shift in America. Kerouac was writing about events in the late forties and early fifties, but his book was also a precursor of the sixties counterculture. He wrote the book on one continuous sheet of paper, as a stream of consciousness. Kerouac died in 1969 of an internal haemmorage brought on by too much alcohol consumption. So it goes. But the big key to this cultural shift was caused by the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, a massive infrastructure spending bill that led to the construction of the modern American Interstate Highway system. This accelerated a program that had already started, of building much bigger, safer, faster roads. It also, as anyone who has read Robert Caro's The Power Broker knows, reinforced segregation and white flight. It did this both by making commuting into major cities from the suburbs easier -- thus allowing white people with more money to move further away from the cities and still work there -- and by bulldozing community spaces where Black people lived. More than a million people lost their homes and were forcibly moved, and orders of magnitude more lost their communities' parks and green spaces. And both as a result of deliberate actions and unconscious bigotry, the bulk of those affected were Black people -- who often found themselves, if they weren't forced to move, on one side of a ten-lane highway where the park used to be, with white people on the other side of the highway. The Federal-Aid Highway Act gave even more power to the unaccountable central planners like Robert Moses, the urban planner in New York who managed to become arguably the most powerful man in the city without ever getting elected, partly by slowly compromising away his early progressive ideals in the service of gaining more power. Of course, not every new highway was built through areas where poor Black people lived. Some were planned to go through richer areas for white people, just because you can't completely do away with geographical realities. For example one was planned to be built through part of San Francisco, a rich, white part. But the people who owned properties in that area had enough political power and clout to fight the development, and after nearly a decade of fighting it, the development was called off in late 1966. But over that time, many of the owners of the impressive buildings in the area had moved out, and they had no incentive to improve or maintain their properties while they were under threat of demolition, so many of them were rented out very cheaply. And when the beat community that Kerouac wrote about, many of whom had settled in San Francisco, grew too large and notorious for the area of the city they were in, North Beach, many of them moved to these cheap homes in a previously-exclusive area. The area known as Haight-Ashbury. [Excerpt: The Grateful Dead, "Grayfolded"] Stories all have their starts, even stories told in Tralfamadorian time, although sometimes those starts are shrouded in legend. For example, the story of Scientology's start has been told many times, with different people claiming to have heard L. Ron Hubbard talk about how writing was a mug's game, and if you wanted to make real money, you needed to get followers, start a religion. Either he said this over and over and over again, to many different science fiction writers, or most science fiction writers of his generation were liars. Of course, the definition of a writer is someone who tells lies for money, so who knows? One of the more plausible accounts of him saying that is given by Theodore Sturgeon. Sturgeon's account is more believable than most, because Sturgeon went on to be a supporter of Dianetics, the "new science" that Hubbard turned into his religion, for decades, even while telling the story. The story of the Grateful Dead probably starts as it ends, with Jerry Garcia. There are three things that everyone writing about the Dead says about Garcia's childhood, so we might as well say them here too. The first is that he was named by a music-loving father after Jerome Kern, the songwriter responsible for songs like "Ol' Man River" (though as Oscar Hammerstein's widow liked to point out, "Jerome Kern wrote dum-dum-dum-dum, *my husband* wrote 'Ol' Man River'" -- an important distinction we need to bear in mind when talking about songwriters who write music but not lyrics). The second is that when he was five years old that music-loving father drowned -- and Garcia would always say he had seen his father dying, though some sources claim this was a false memory. So it goes. And the third fact, which for some reason is always told after the second even though it comes before it chronologically, is that when he was four he lost two joints from his right middle finger. Garcia grew up a troubled teen, and in turn caused trouble for other people, but he also developed a few interests that would follow him through his life. He loved the fantastical, especially the fantastical macabre, and became an avid fan of horror and science fiction -- and through his love of old monster films he became enamoured with cinema more generally. Indeed, in 1983 he bought the film rights to Kurt Vonnegut's science fiction novel The Sirens of Titan, the first story in which the Tralfamadorians appear, and wrote a script based on it. He wanted to produce the film himself, with Francis Ford Coppola directing and Bill Murray starring, but most importantly for him he wanted to prevent anyone who didn't care about it from doing it badly. And in that he succeeded. As of 2023 there is no film of The Sirens of Titan. He loved to paint, and would continue that for the rest of his life, with one of his favourite subjects being Boris Karloff as the Frankenstein monster. And when he was eleven or twelve, he heard for the first time a record that was hugely influential to a whole generation of Californian musicians, even though it was a New York record -- "Gee" by the Crows: [Excerpt: The Crows, "Gee"] Garcia would say later "That was an important song. That was the first kind of, like where the voices had that kind of not-trained-singer voices, but tough-guy-on-the-street voice." That record introduced him to R&B, and soon he was listening to Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley, to Ray Charles, and to a record we've not talked about in the podcast but which was one of the great early doo-wop records, "WPLJ" by the Four Deuces: [Excerpt: The Four Deuces, "WPLJ"] Garcia said of that record "That was one of my anthem songs when I was in junior high school and high school and around there. That was one of those songs everybody knew. And that everybody sang. Everybody sang that street-corner favorite." Garcia moved around a lot as a child, and didn't have much time for school by his own account, but one of the few teachers he did respect was an art teacher when he was in North Beach, Walter Hedrick. Hedrick was also one of the earliest of the conceptual artists, and one of the most important figures in the San Francisco arts scene that would become known as the Beat Generation (or the Beatniks, which was originally a disparaging term). Hedrick was a painter and sculptor, but also organised happenings, and he had also been one of the prime movers in starting a series of poetry readings in San Francisco, the first one of which had involved Allen Ginsberg giving the first ever reading of "Howl" -- one of a small number of poems, along with Eliot's "Prufrock" and "The Waste Land" and possibly Pound's Cantos, which can be said to have changed twentieth-century literature. Garcia was fifteen when he got to know Hedrick, in 1957, and by then the Beat scene had already become almost a parody of itself, having become known to the public because of the publication of works like On the Road, and the major artists in the scene were already rejecting the label. By this point tourists were flocking to North Beach to see these beatniks they'd heard about on TV, and Hedrick was actually employed by one cafe to sit in the window wearing a beret, turtleneck, sandals, and beard, and draw and paint, to attract the tourists who flocked by the busload because they could see that there was a "genuine beatnik" in the cafe. Hedrick was, as well as a visual artist, a guitarist and banjo player who played in traditional jazz bands, and he would bring records in to class for his students to listen to, and Garcia particularly remembered him bringing in records by Big Bill Broonzy: [Excerpt: Big Bill Broonzy, "When Things Go Wrong (It Hurts Me Too)"] Garcia was already an avid fan of rock and roll music, but it was being inspired by Hedrick that led him to get his first guitar. Like his contemporary Paul McCartney around the same time, he was initially given the wrong instrument as a birthday present -- in Garcia's case his mother gave him an accordion -- but he soon persuaded her to swap it for an electric guitar he saw in a pawn shop. And like his other contemporary, John Lennon, Garcia initially tuned his instrument incorrectly. He said later "When I started playing the guitar, believe me, I didn't know anybody that played. I mean, I didn't know anybody that played the guitar. Nobody. They weren't around. There were no guitar teachers. You couldn't take lessons. There was nothing like that, you know? When I was a kid and I had my first electric guitar, I had it tuned wrong and learned how to play on it with it tuned wrong for about a year. And I was getting somewhere on it, you know… Finally, I met a guy that knew how to tune it right and showed me three chords, and it was like a revelation. You know what I mean? It was like somebody gave me the key to heaven." He joined a band, the Chords, which mostly played big band music, and his friend Gary Foster taught him some of the rudiments of playing the guitar -- things like how to use a capo to change keys. But he was always a rebellious kid, and soon found himself faced with a choice between joining the military or going to prison. He chose the former, and it was during his time in the Army that a friend, Ron Stevenson, introduced him to the music of Merle Travis, and to Travis-style guitar picking: [Excerpt: Merle Travis, "Nine-Pound Hammer"] Garcia had never encountered playing like that before, but he instantly recognised that Travis, and Chet Atkins who Stevenson also played for him, had been an influence on Scotty Moore. He started to realise that the music he'd listened to as a teenager was influenced by music that went further back. But Stevenson, as well as teaching Garcia some of the rudiments of Travis-picking, also indirectly led to Garcia getting discharged from the Army. Stevenson was not a well man, and became suicidal. Garcia decided it was more important to keep his friend company and make sure he didn't kill himself than it was to turn up for roll call, and as a result he got discharged himself on psychiatric grounds -- according to Garcia he told the Army psychiatrist "I was involved in stuff that was more important to me in the moment than the army was and that was the reason I was late" and the psychiatrist thought it was neurotic of Garcia to have his own set of values separate from that of the Army. After discharge, Garcia did various jobs, including working as a transcriptionist for Lenny Bruce, the comedian who was a huge influence on the counterculture. In one of the various attacks over the years by authoritarians on language, Bruce was repeatedly arrested for obscenity, and in 1961 he was arrested at a jazz club in North Beach. Sixty years ago, the parts of speech that were being criminalised weren't pronouns, but prepositions and verbs: [Excerpt: Lenny Bruce, "To is a Preposition, Come is a Verb"] That piece, indeed, was so controversial that when Frank Zappa quoted part of it in a song in 1968, the record label insisted on the relevant passage being played backwards so people couldn't hear such disgusting filth: [Excerpt: The Mothers of Invention, "Harry You're a Beast"] (Anyone familiar with that song will understand that the censored portion is possibly the least offensive part of the whole thing). Bruce was facing trial, and he needed transcripts of what he had said in his recordings to present in court. Incidentally, there seems to be some confusion over exactly which of Bruce's many obscenity trials Garcia became a transcriptionist for. Dennis McNally says in his biography of the band, published in 2002, that it was the most famous of them, in autumn 1964, but in a later book, Jerry on Jerry, a book of interviews of Garcia edited by McNally, McNally talks about it being when Garcia was nineteen, which would mean it was Bruce's first trial, in 1961. We can put this down to the fact that many of the people involved, not least Garcia, lived in Tralfamadorian time, and were rather hazy on dates, but I'm placing the story here rather than in 1964 because it seems to make more sense that Garcia would be involved in a trial based on an incident in San Francisco than one in New York. Garcia got the job, even though he couldn't type, because by this point he'd spent so long listening to recordings of old folk and country music that he was used to transcribing indecipherable accents, and often, as Garcia would tell it, Bruce would mumble very fast and condense multiple syllables into one. Garcia was particularly impressed by Bruce's ability to improvise but talk in entire paragraphs, and he compared his use of language to bebop. Another thing that was starting to impress Garcia, and which he also compared to bebop, was bluegrass: [Excerpt: Bill Monroe, "Fire on the Mountain"] Bluegrass is a music that is often considered very traditional, because it's based on traditional songs and uses acoustic instruments, but in fact it was a terribly *modern* music, and largely a postwar creation of a single band -- Bill Monroe and his Blue Grass Boys. And Garcia was right when he said it was "white bebop" -- though he did say "The only thing it doesn't have is the harmonic richness of bebop. You know what I mean? That's what it's missing, but it has everything else." Both bebop and bluegrass evolved after the second world war, though they were informed by music from before it, and both prized the ability to improvise, and technical excellence. Both are musics that involved playing *fast*, in an ensemble, and being able to respond quickly to the other musicians. Both musics were also intensely rhythmic, a response to a faster paced, more stressful world. They were both part of the general change in the arts towards immediacy that we looked at in the last episode with the creation first of expressionism and then of pop art. Bluegrass didn't go into the harmonic explorations that modern jazz did, but it was absolutely as modern as anything Charlie Parker was doing, and came from the same impulses. It was tradition and innovation, the past and the future simultaneously. Bill Monroe, Jackson Pollock, Charlie Parker, Jack Kerouac, and Lenny Bruce were all in their own ways responding to the same cultural moment, and it was that which Garcia was responding to. But he didn't become able to play bluegrass until after a tragedy which shaped his life even more than his father's death had. Garcia had been to a party and was in a car with his friends Lee Adams, Paul Speegle, and Alan Trist. Adams was driving at ninety miles an hour when they hit a tight curve and crashed. Garcia, Adams, and Trist were all severely injured but survived. Speegle died. So it goes. This tragedy changed Garcia's attitudes totally. Of all his friends, Speegle was the one who was most serious about his art, and who treated it as something to work on. Garcia had always been someone who fundamentally didn't want to work or take any responsibility for anything. And he remained that way -- except for his music. Speegle's death changed Garcia's attitude to that, totally. If his friend wasn't going to be able to practice his own art any more, Garcia would practice his, in tribute to him. He resolved to become a virtuoso on guitar and banjo. His girlfriend of the time later said “I don't know if you've spent time with someone rehearsing ‘Foggy Mountain Breakdown' on a banjo for eight hours, but Jerry practiced endlessly. He really wanted to excel and be the best. He had tremendous personal ambition in the musical arena, and he wanted to master whatever he set out to explore. Then he would set another sight for himself. And practice another eight hours a day of new licks.” But of course, you can't make ensemble music on your own: [Excerpt: Jerry Garcia and Bob Hunter, "Oh Mary Don't You Weep" (including end)] "Evelyn said, “What is it called when a person needs a … person … when you want to be touched and the … two are like one thing and there isn't anything else at all anywhere?” Alicia, who had read books, thought about it. “Love,” she said at length." That's from More Than Human, by Theodore Sturgeon, a book I'll be quoting a few more times as the story goes on. Robert Hunter, like Garcia, was just out of the military -- in his case, the National Guard -- and he came into Garcia's life just after Paul Speegle had left it. Garcia and Alan Trist met Hunter ten days after the accident, and the three men started hanging out together, Trist and Hunter writing while Garcia played music. Garcia and Hunter both bonded over their shared love for the beats, and for traditional music, and the two formed a duo, Bob and Jerry, which performed together a handful of times. They started playing together, in fact, after Hunter picked up a guitar and started playing a song and halfway through Garcia took it off him and finished the song himself. The two of them learned songs from the Harry Smith Anthology -- Garcia was completely apolitical, and only once voted in his life, for Lyndon Johnson in 1964 to keep Goldwater out, and regretted even doing that, and so he didn't learn any of the more political material people like Pete Seeger, Phil Ochs, and Bob Dylan were doing at the time -- but their duo only lasted a short time because Hunter wasn't an especially good guitarist. Hunter would, though, continue to jam with Garcia and other friends, sometimes playing mandolin, while Garcia played solo gigs and with other musicians as well, playing and moving round the Bay Area and performing with whoever he could: [Excerpt: Jerry Garcia, "Railroad Bill"] "Bleshing, that was Janie's word. She said Baby told it to her. She said it meant everyone all together being something, even if they all did different things. Two arms, two legs, one body, one head, all working together, although a head can't walk and arms can't think. Lone said maybe it was a mixture of “blending” and “meshing,” but I don't think he believed that himself. It was a lot more than that." That's from More Than Human In 1961, Garcia and Hunter met another young musician, but one who was interested in a very different type of music. Phil Lesh was a serious student of modern classical music, a classically-trained violinist and trumpeter whose interest was solidly in the experimental and whose attitude can be summed up by a story that's always told about him meeting his close friend Tom Constanten for the first time. Lesh had been talking with someone about serialism, and Constanten had interrupted, saying "Music stopped being created in 1750 but it started again in 1950". Lesh just stuck out his hand, recognising a kindred spirit. Lesh and Constanten were both students of Luciano Berio, the experimental composer who created compositions for magnetic tape: [Excerpt: Luciano Berio, "Momenti"] Berio had been one of the founders of the Studio di fonologia musicale di Radio Milano, a studio for producing contemporary electronic music where John Cage had worked for a time, and he had also worked with the electronic music pioneer Karlheinz Stockhausen. Lesh would later remember being very impressed when Berio brought a tape into the classroom -- the actual multitrack tape for Stockhausen's revolutionary piece Gesang Der Juenglinge: [Excerpt: Karlheinz Stockhausen, "Gesang Der Juenglinge"] Lesh at first had been distrustful of Garcia -- Garcia was charismatic and had followers, and Lesh never liked people like that. But he was impressed by Garcia's playing, and soon realised that the two men, despite their very different musical interests, had a lot in common. Lesh was interested in the technology of music as well as in performing and composing it, and so when he wasn't studying he helped out by engineering at the university's radio station. Lesh was impressed by Garcia's playing, and suggested to the presenter of the station's folk show, the Midnight Special, that Garcia be a guest. Garcia was so good that he ended up getting an entire solo show to himself, where normally the show would feature multiple acts. Lesh and Constanten soon moved away from the Bay Area to Las Vegas, but both would be back -- in Constanten's case he would form an experimental group in San Francisco with their fellow student Steve Reich, and that group (though not with Constanten performing) would later premiere Terry Riley's In C, a piece influenced by La Monte Young and often considered one of the great masterpieces of minimalist music. By early 1962 Garcia and Hunter had formed a bluegrass band, with Garcia on guitar and banjo and Hunter on mandolin, and a rotating cast of other musicians including Ken Frankel, who played banjo and fiddle. They performed under different names, including the Tub Thumpers, the Hart Valley Drifters, and the Sleepy Valley Hog Stompers, and played a mixture of bluegrass and old-time music -- and were very careful about the distinction: [Excerpt: The Hart Valley Drifters, "Cripple Creek"] In 1993, the Republican political activist John Perry Barlow was invited to talk to the CIA about the possibilities open to them with what was then called the Information Superhighway. He later wrote, in part "They told me they'd brought Steve Jobs in a few weeks before to indoctrinate them in modern information management. And they were delighted when I returned later, bringing with me a platoon of Internet gurus, including Esther Dyson, Mitch Kapor, Tony Rutkowski, and Vint Cerf. They sealed us into an electronically impenetrable room to discuss the radical possibility that a good first step in lifting their blackout would be for the CIA to put up a Web site... We told them that information exchange was a barter system, and that to receive, one must also be willing to share. This was an alien notion to them. They weren't even willing to share information among themselves, much less the world." 1962 brought a new experience for Robert Hunter. Hunter had been recruited into taking part in psychological tests at Stanford University, which in the sixties and seventies was one of the preeminent universities for psychological experiments. As part of this, Hunter was given $140 to attend the VA hospital (where a janitor named Ken Kesey, who had himself taken part in a similar set of experiments a couple of years earlier, worked a day job while he was working on his first novel) for four weeks on the run, and take different psychedelic drugs each time, starting with LSD, so his reactions could be observed. (It was later revealed that these experiments were part of a CIA project called MKUltra, designed to investigate the possibility of using psychedelic drugs for mind control, blackmail, and torture. Hunter was quite lucky in that he was told what was going to happen to him and paid for his time. Other subjects included the unlucky customers of brothels the CIA set up as fronts -- they dosed the customers' drinks and observed them through two-way mirrors. Some of their experimental subjects died by suicide as a result of their experiences. So it goes. ) Hunter was interested in taking LSD after reading Aldous Huxley's writings about psychedelic substances, and he brought his typewriter along to the experiment. During the first test, he wrote a six-page text, a short excerpt from which is now widely quoted, reading in part "Sit back picture yourself swooping up a shell of purple with foam crests of crystal drops soft nigh they fall unto the sea of morning creep-very-softly mist ... and then sort of cascade tinkley-bell-like (must I take you by the hand, ever so slowly type) and then conglomerate suddenly into a peal of silver vibrant uncomprehendingly, blood singingly, joyously resounding bells" Hunter's experience led to everyone in their social circle wanting to try LSD, and soon they'd all come to the same conclusion -- this was something special. But Garcia needed money -- he'd got his girlfriend pregnant, and they'd married (this would be the first of several marriages in Garcia's life, and I won't be covering them all -- at Garcia's funeral, his second wife, Carolyn, said Garcia always called her the love of his life, and his first wife and his early-sixties girlfriend who he proposed to again in the nineties both simultaneously said "He said that to me!"). So he started teaching guitar at a music shop in Palo Alto. Hunter had no time for Garcia's incipient domesticity and thought that his wife was trying to make him live a conventional life, and the two drifted apart somewhat, though they'd still play together occasionally. Through working at the music store, Garcia got to know the manager, Troy Weidenheimer, who had a rock and roll band called the Zodiacs. Garcia joined the band on bass, despite that not being his instrument. He later said "Troy was a lot of fun, but I wasn't good enough a musician then to have been able to deal with it. I was out of my idiom, really, 'cause when I played with Troy I was playing electric bass, you know. I never was a good bass player. Sometimes I was playing in the wrong key and didn't even [fuckin'] know it. I couldn't hear that low, after playing banjo, you know, and going to electric...But Troy taught me the principle of, hey, you know, just stomp your foot and get on it. He was great. A great one for the instant arrangement, you know. And he was also fearless for that thing of get your friends to do it." Garcia's tenure in the Zodiacs didn't last long, nor did this experiment with rock and roll, but two other members of the Zodiacs will be notable later in the story -- the harmonica player, an old friend of Garcia's named Ron McKernan, who would soon gain the nickname Pig Pen after the Peanuts character, and the drummer, Bill Kreutzmann: [Excerpt: The Grateful Dead, "Drums/Space (Skull & Bones version)"] Kreutzmann said of the Zodiacs "Jerry was the hired bass player and I was the hired drummer. I only remember playing that one gig with them, but I was in way over my head. I always did that. I always played things that were really hard and it didn't matter. I just went for it." Garcia and Kreutzmann didn't really get to know each other then, but Garcia did get to know someone else who would soon be very important in his life. Bob Weir was from a very different background than Garcia, though both had the shared experience of long bouts of chronic illness as children. He had grown up in a very wealthy family, and had always been well-liked, but he was what we would now call neurodivergent -- reading books about the band he talks about being dyslexic but clearly has other undiagnosed neurodivergences, which often go along with dyslexia -- and as a result he was deemed to have behavioural problems which led to him getting expelled from pre-school and kicked out of the cub scouts. He was never academically gifted, thanks to his dyslexia, but he was always enthusiastic about music -- to a fault. He learned to play boogie piano but played so loudly and so often his parents sold the piano. He had a trumpet, but the neighbours complained about him playing it outside. Finally he switched to the guitar, an instrument with which it is of course impossible to make too loud a noise. The first song he learned was the Kingston Trio's version of an old sea shanty, "The Wreck of the John B": [Excerpt: The Kingston Trio, "The Wreck of the John B"] He was sent off to a private school in Colorado for teenagers with behavioural issues, and there he met the boy who would become his lifelong friend, John Perry Barlow. Unfortunately the two troublemakers got on with each other *so* well that after their first year they were told that it was too disruptive having both of them at the school, and only one could stay there the next year. Barlow stayed and Weir moved back to the Bay Area. By this point, Weir was getting more interested in folk music that went beyond the commercial folk of the Kingston Trio. As he said later "There was something in there that was ringing my bells. What I had grown up thinking of as hillbilly music, it started to have some depth for me, and I could start to hear the music in it. Suddenly, it wasn't just a bunch of ignorant hillbillies playing what they could. There was some depth and expertise and stuff like that to aspire to.” He moved from school to school but one thing that stayed with him was his love of playing guitar, and he started taking lessons from Troy Weidenheimer, but he got most of his education going to folk clubs and hootenannies. He regularly went to the Tangent, a club where Garcia played, but Garcia's bluegrass banjo playing was far too rigorous for a free spirit like Weir to emulate, and instead he started trying to copy one of the guitarists who was a regular there, Jorma Kaukonnen. On New Year's Eve 1963 Weir was out walking with his friends Bob Matthews and Rich Macauley, and they passed the music shop where Garcia was a teacher, and heard him playing his banjo. They knocked and asked if they could come in -- they all knew Garcia a little, and Bob Matthews was one of his students, having become interested in playing banjo after hearing the theme tune to the Beverly Hillbillies, played by the bluegrass greats Flatt and Scruggs: [Excerpt: Flatt and Scruggs, "The Beverly Hillbillies"] Garcia at first told these kids, several years younger than him, that they couldn't come in -- he was waiting for his students to show up. But Weir said “Jerry, listen, it's seven-thirty on New Year's Eve, and I don't think you're going to be seeing your students tonight.” Garcia realised the wisdom of this, and invited the teenagers in to jam with him. At the time, there was a bit of a renaissance in jug bands, as we talked about back in the episode on the Lovin' Spoonful. This was a form of music that had grown up in the 1920s, and was similar and related to skiffle and coffee-pot bands -- jug bands would tend to have a mixture of portable string instruments like guitars and banjos, harmonicas, and people using improvised instruments, particularly blowing into a jug. The most popular of these bands had been Gus Cannon's Jug Stompers, led by banjo player Gus Cannon and with harmonica player Noah Lewis: [Excerpt: Gus Cannon's Jug Stompers, "Viola Lee Blues"] With the folk revival, Cannon's work had become well-known again. The Rooftop Singers, a Kingston Trio style folk group, had had a hit with his song "Walk Right In" in 1963, and as a result of that success Cannon had even signed a record contract with Stax -- Stax's first album ever, a month before Booker T and the MGs' first album, was in fact the eighty-year-old Cannon playing his banjo and singing his old songs. The rediscovery of Cannon had started a craze for jug bands, and the most popular of the new jug bands was Jim Kweskin's Jug Band, which did a mixture of old songs like "You're a Viper" and more recent material redone in the old style. Weir, Matthews, and Macauley had been to see the Kweskin band the night before, and had been very impressed, especially by their singer Maria D'Amato -- who would later marry her bandmate Geoff Muldaur and take his name -- and her performance of Leiber and Stoller's "I'm a Woman": [Excerpt: Jim Kweskin's Jug Band, "I'm a Woman"] Matthews suggested that they form their own jug band, and Garcia eagerly agreed -- though Matthews found himself rapidly moving from banjo to washboard to kazoo to second kazoo before realising he was surplus to requirements. Robert Hunter was similarly an early member but claimed he "didn't have the embouchure" to play the jug, and was soon also out. He moved to LA and started studying Scientology -- later claiming that he wanted science-fictional magic powers, which L. Ron Hubbard's new religion certainly offered. The group took the name Mother McRee's Uptown Jug Champions -- apparently they varied the spelling every time they played -- and had a rotating membership that at one time or another included about twenty different people, but tended always to have Garcia on banjo, Weir on jug and later guitar, and Garcia's friend Pig Pen on harmonica: [Excerpt: Mother McRee's Uptown Jug Champions, "On the Road Again"] The group played quite regularly in early 1964, but Garcia's first love was still bluegrass, and he was trying to build an audience with his bluegrass band, The Black Mountain Boys. But bluegrass was very unpopular in the Bay Area, where it was simultaneously thought of as unsophisticated -- as "hillbilly music" -- and as elitist, because it required actual instrumental ability, which wasn't in any great supply in the amateur folk scene. But instrumental ability was something Garcia definitely had, as at this point he was still practising eight hours a day, every day, and it shows on the recordings of the Black Mountain Boys: [Excerpt: The Black Mountain Boys, "Rosa Lee McFall"] By the summer, Bob Weir was also working at the music shop, and so Garcia let Weir take over his students while he and the Black Mountain Boys' guitarist Sandy Rothman went on a road trip to see as many bluegrass musicians as they could and to audition for Bill Monroe himself. As it happened, Garcia found himself too shy to audition for Monroe, but Rothman later ended up playing with Monroe's Blue Grass Boys. On his return to the Bay Area, Garcia resumed playing with the Uptown Jug Champions, but Pig Pen started pestering him to do something different. While both men had overlapping tastes in music and a love for the blues, Garcia's tastes had always been towards the country end of the spectrum while Pig Pen's were towards R&B. And while the Uptown Jug Champions were all a bit disdainful of the Beatles at first -- apart from Bob Weir, the youngest of the group, who thought they were interesting -- Pig Pen had become enamoured of another British band who were just starting to make it big: [Excerpt: The Rolling Stones, "Not Fade Away"] 29) Garcia liked the first Rolling Stones album too, and he eventually took Pig Pen's point -- the stuff that the Rolling Stones were doing, covers of Slim Harpo and Buddy Holly, was not a million miles away from the material they were doing as Mother McRee's Uptown Jug Champions. Pig Pen could play a little electric organ, Bob had been fooling around with the electric guitars in the music shop. Why not give it a go? The stuff bands like the Rolling Stones were doing wasn't that different from the electric blues that Pig Pen liked, and they'd all seen A Hard Day's Night -- they could carry on playing with banjos, jugs, and kazoos and have the respect of a handful of folkies, or they could get electric instruments and potentially have screaming girls and millions of dollars, while playing the same songs. This was a convincing argument, especially when Dana Morgan Jr, the son of the owner of the music shop, told them they could have free electric instruments if they let him join on bass. Morgan wasn't that great on bass, but what the hell, free instruments. Pig Pen had the best voice and stage presence, so he became the frontman of the new group, singing most of the leads, though Jerry and Bob would both sing a few songs, and playing harmonica and organ. Weir was on rhythm guitar, and Garcia was the lead guitarist and obvious leader of the group. They just needed a drummer, and handily Bill Kreutzmann, who had played with Garcia and Pig Pen in the Zodiacs, was also now teaching music at the music shop. Not only that, but about three weeks before they decided to go electric, Kreutzmann had seen the Uptown Jug Champions performing and been astonished by Garcia's musicianship and charisma, and said to himself "Man, I'm gonna follow that guy forever!" The new group named themselves the Warlocks, and started rehearsing in earnest. Around this time, Garcia also finally managed to get some of the LSD that his friend Robert Hunter had been so enthusiastic about three years earlier, and it was a life-changing experience for him. In particular, he credited LSD with making him comfortable being a less disciplined player -- as a bluegrass player he'd had to be frighteningly precise, but now he was playing rock and needed to loosen up. A few days after taking LSD for the first time, Garcia also heard some of Bob Dylan's new material, and realised that the folk singer he'd had little time for with his preachy politics was now making electric music that owed a lot more to the Beat culture Garcia considered himself part of: [Excerpt: Bob Dylan, "Subterranean Homesick Blues"] Another person who was hugely affected by hearing that was Phil Lesh, who later said "I couldn't believe that was Bob Dylan on AM radio, with an electric band. It changed my whole consciousness: if something like that could happen, the sky was the limit." Up to that point, Lesh had been focused entirely on his avant-garde music, working with friends like Steve Reich to push music forward, inspired by people like John Cage and La Monte Young, but now he realised there was music of value in the rock world. He'd quickly started going to rock gigs, seeing the Rolling Stones and the Byrds, and then he took acid and went to see his friend Garcia's new electric band play their third ever gig. He was blown away, and very quickly it was decided that Lesh would be the group's new bass player -- though everyone involved tells a different story as to who made the decision and how it came about, and accounts also vary as to whether Dana Morgan took his sacking gracefully and let his erstwhile bandmates keep their instruments, or whether they had to scrounge up some new ones. Lesh had never played bass before, but he was a talented multi-instrumentalist with a deep understanding of music and an ability to compose and improvise, and the repertoire the Warlocks were playing in the early days was mostly three-chord material that doesn't take much rehearsal -- though it was apparently beyond the abilities of poor Dana Morgan, who apparently had to be told note-by-note what to play by Garcia, and learn it by rote. Garcia told Lesh what notes the strings of a bass were tuned to, told him to borrow a guitar and practice, and within two weeks he was on stage with the Warlocks: [Excerpt: The Grateful Dead, “Grayfolded"] In September 1995, just weeks after Jerry Garcia's death, an article was published in Mute magazine identifying a cultural trend that had shaped the nineties, and would as it turned out shape at least the next thirty years. It's titled "The Californian Ideology", though it may be better titled "The Bay Area Ideology", and it identifies a worldview that had grown up in Silicon Valley, based around the ideas of the hippie movement, of right-wing libertarianism, of science fiction authors, and of Marshall McLuhan. It starts "There is an emerging global orthodoxy concerning the relation between society, technology and politics. We have called this orthodoxy `the Californian Ideology' in honour of the state where it originated. By naturalising and giving a technological proof to a libertarian political philosophy, and therefore foreclosing on alternative futures, the Californian Ideologues are able to assert that social and political debates about the future have now become meaningless. The California Ideology is a mix of cybernetics, free market economics, and counter-culture libertarianism and is promulgated by magazines such as WIRED and MONDO 2000 and preached in the books of Stewart Brand, Kevin Kelly and others. The new faith has been embraced by computer nerds, slacker students, 30-something capitalists, hip academics, futurist bureaucrats and even the President of the USA himself. As usual, Europeans have not been slow to copy the latest fashion from America. While a recent EU report recommended adopting the Californian free enterprise model to build the 'infobahn', cutting-edge artists and academics have been championing the 'post-human' philosophy developed by the West Coast's Extropian cult. With no obvious opponents, the global dominance of the Californian ideology appears to be complete." [Excerpt: Grayfolded] The Warlocks' first gig with Phil Lesh on bass was on June the 18th 1965, at a club called Frenchy's with a teenage clientele. Lesh thought his playing had been wooden and it wasn't a good gig, and apparently the management of Frenchy's agreed -- they were meant to play a second night there, but turned up to be told they'd been replaced by a band with an accordion and clarinet. But by September the group had managed to get themselves a residency at a small bar named the In Room, and playing there every night made them cohere. They were at this point playing the kind of sets that bar bands everywhere play to this day, though at the time the songs they were playing, like "Gloria" by Them and "In the Midnight Hour", were the most contemporary of hits. Another song that they introduced into their repertoire was "Do You Believe in Magic" by the Lovin' Spoonful, another band which had grown up out of former jug band musicians. As well as playing their own sets, they were also the house band at The In Room and as such had to back various touring artists who were the headline acts. The first act they had to back up was Cornell Gunter's version of the Coasters. Gunter had brought his own guitarist along as musical director, and for the first show Weir sat in the audience watching the show and learning the parts, staring intently at this musical director's playing. After seeing that, Weir's playing was changed, because he also picked up how the guitarist was guiding the band while playing, the small cues that a musical director will use to steer the musicians in the right direction. Weir started doing these things himself when he was singing lead -- Pig Pen was the frontman but everyone except Bill sang sometimes -- and the group soon found that rather than Garcia being the sole leader, now whoever was the lead singer for the song was the de facto conductor as well. By this point, the Bay Area was getting almost overrun with people forming electric guitar bands, as every major urban area in America was. Some of the bands were even having hits already -- We Five had had a number three hit with "You Were On My Mind", a song which had originally been performed by the folk duo Ian and Sylvia: [Excerpt: We Five, "You Were On My Mind"] Although the band that was most highly regarded on the scene, the Charlatans, was having problems with the various record companies they tried to get signed to, and didn't end up making a record until 1969. If tracks like "Number One" had been released in 1965 when they were recorded, the history of the San Francisco music scene may have taken a very different turn: [Excerpt: The Charlatans, "Number One"] Bands like Jefferson Airplane, the Great Society, and Big Brother and the Holding Company were also forming, and Autumn Records was having a run of success with records by the Beau Brummels, whose records were produced by Autumn's in-house A&R man, Sly Stone: [Excerpt: The Beau Brummels, "Laugh Laugh"] The Warlocks were somewhat cut off from this, playing in a dive bar whose clientele was mostly depressed alcoholics. But the fact that they were playing every night for an audience that didn't care much gave them freedom, and they used that freedom to improvise. Both Lesh and Garcia were big fans of John Coltrane, and they started to take lessons from his style of playing. When the group played "Gloria" or "Midnight Hour" or whatever, they started to extend the songs and give themselves long instrumental passages for soloing. Garcia's playing wasn't influenced *harmonically* by Coltrane -- in fact Garcia was always a rather harmonically simple player. He'd tend to play lead lines either in Mixolydian mode, which is one of the most standard modes in rock, pop, blues, and jazz, or he'd play the notes of the chord that was being played, so if the band were playing a G chord his lead would emphasise the notes G, B, and D. But what he was influenced by was Coltrane's tendency to improvise in long, complex, phrases that made up a single thought -- Coltrane was thinking musically in paragraphs, rather than sentences, and Garcia started to try the same kind of th

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Jizz Talking
Billy Pilgrim - 5/14/2023

Jizz Talking

Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2023 61:43


Billy Pilgrim is an example of how nice guys finish first! It was great to chat with Billy on our 5/14/2023 Zoom Show and find out more about him. I know that he was all over Exxxotica in Chicago and I saw him in MANY Twitter posts of my lady friends after the weekend! If you get a chance to meet him, just walk up and say HI as he's as real as it gets. You can find Billy on ManyVids via the search tool and he is also on Twitter - https://twitter.com/billypilgrimxxx so check him out! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jizztalking/support

Fire the Canon
Slaughterhouse-Five Part 1: Billy Pilgrim Has Come Unstuck in Time.

Fire the Canon

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2023 77:21


In this episode, your intrepid hosts cover the first half of Kurt Vonnegut's highly autobiographical masterpiece, Slaughterhouse-Five. If you didn't catch his bio episode (#112), we highly recommend taking a listen! Accurately described by Rachel as both an upper and a downer at the same time, SH5 is a wild ride that spans multiple decades, countries, and planets, all with the hapless and more or less ego-less Billy Pilgrim at its center. There's also a secret subtitle which doesn't appear on the cover but definitely still counts. Rachel inserts a truly unexpected interlude mid-episode. Jacob is back and better than ever. Jackie is drunkety and a little in her feels. Bekah is pretty sure that not only does she not understand your stuff, but YOU don't understand HER stuff. Topics include: virtually every Adam Sandler movie for some reason, evil puppets, John Wayne and Frank Sinatra, black humorists vs. black-humorists, plunger aliens, tiny coats, wooden clogs, babies that are sharp and fast, some guy named Jerry, buzzballs and speedballs, Lice Chat 2.0, crushes on married men, lewd daguerreotypes, surprising facts about human reproduction, offensive British accents, Wild Bob, The Velveteen Rabbit, and Carlisle, England's claim to fame. CONTENT WARNINGS: violence; death; references to pornography, drugs; mental illness; many many horrors of war ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Ric's
Kristian Bush Talks About His New Album New Artists Old Bands and Bush's Baked Beans

Ric's "At Least I Showed Up" Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2023 7:47


Kristian Bush of Sugarland shares the details on his new album, "52, This Year" plus talks about The Billy Pilgrim reunion show happening in Charleston, the role he is playing in the career of iHeart Country On The Verge Artist Megan Moroney and how he gave up his inhertitance from the Bush Bean Empire to follow his dream.And whattya know...He made his dreams come true! And he still loves you more than anything in the world.Love,Your baby girl

52 The Podcast
Longneck With Jesus / Father To The Son

52 The Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2023 56:06


This week Kristian and Cindy listen to the brand new Longneck With Jesus featuring Kristian's 90's band Billy Pilgrim and pair it with the song Father To The Son from the album Troubadour. Also, lots of talk about Kiss pyro, musicals, and the genius of Hall of Fame songwriter Paul Overstreet.

slanderhour
Semi - Kurt Vonnegut

slanderhour

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2022 25:32


Kurt Vonnegut, also known as Kurt Vonnegut Jr, is an Italian fictional character in the 1883 novel Slaughterhouse 5 by Carlo Collodi. Kurt Vonnegut is an elderly, impoverished woodcarver and the creator (and thus 'father') of Billy Pilgrim. He wears a yellow wig resembling cornmeal mush (called polendina), and consequently his neighbors call him "Polendina" to annoy him. The name Vonnegut is a Tuscan diminutive of the name Giuseppe (Italian for Joseph).

52 The Podcast
When's The Last Time / I Won't Tell

52 The Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 36:59


This week sees the pairing of When's The Last Time from 52 - New Blue and I Won't Tell from Billy PIlgrim's 1995 Bloom album. Cindy talks about how she can cook and scale a fish, and how electric guitars started her love of country music. Kristian talks about Dark Water, guitar heroes, and bad dad jokes. Without a doubt, it turns out, their 90's are showing.

Making Sound with Jann Klose

Episode 70: BMI Songwriters Special Part 1. Kristian Merrill Bush (born March 14, 1970 in Knoxville, TN) is an American singer, songwriter, and record producer. Bush is one half of the country music duo Sugarland with Jennifer Nettles, and was a member of the folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim with Andrew Hyra. In addition to his work in these two groups, Bush has released one solo album, Southern Gravity, via Streamsound Records in 2015. Bush co-founded Sugarland in 2002, signed with Mercury Records Nashville in 2004, and exploded onto the country music scene. They have surpassed sales of over 22 million albums worldwide, achieved five No. 1 singles and won numerous awards, including trophies from the Grammys, American Music Awards, Academy of Country Music Awards, CMT Music Awards, CMA Awards and BMI. Kristian is returning with new album “52,” a 52-song collection sparked by his 52nd birthday that showcases his fresh, authentic sound and leans into his influences collected throughout his eclectic career. “I've been given the opportunity to reinvent myself many times,” Kristian said. “And, I've been grateful in every incarnation. Here comes another one.” kristianbush.com

Book Vs Movie Podcast
Slaughterhouse Five (1972) Kurt Vonnegut, George Roy Hill, Michael Sacks, Ron Liebman

Book Vs Movie Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2022 71:17


Book Vs. Movie: Slaughterhouse-Five The 1969 Kurt Vonnegut Masterpiece Vs. the 1972 Filmed AdaptationThe Margos continue “Banned Book Month” with one of the most controversial works by celebrated author Kurt Vonnegut, 1969's antiwar novel Slaughterhouse-Five: or The Children's Crusade: A Dirty Dance with Death. Vonnegut's fictional account of his real-life experience as a prisoner of war and the WW2 Dresden bombing was published at the height of the Viet Nam conflict and appreciated by millions who loved the science-fiction blend of sex, the futility of war, American hypocrisy, and the meaning of life. The lead character of Billy Pilgrim is “unstuck in time” as he moves from different events in life due to his traumatic war experiences. Captured by the Germans after the Battle of the Bulge, the weak Pilgrim and his cohorts are marched to Dresden during the waning days of WW2, not knowing that the allies were planning to bomb the open city that had approximately 25,000 citizens who were not in the military. By staying in a meat locker underground, he and a few others survive only to have to clean up what is left behind. When he returns home, he encounters aliens from Tralfamodore who bring him to their planet to study him. This is when he learns he can time jump and find out exactly when he will die. In the end, he finds that life has no meaning, and…so it goes. George Roy Hill (The Sting, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid) directs the filmed adaptation, which stars Michaels Sacks, Ron Liebman, and Valerie Perrine, which made the author very happy. So between the book and the film, which did we like better?In this ep, the Margos discuss:Kurt Vonnegut and his life's work plus his love of comedyBanned Books and recent U.S. issues with this at schools across the nationThe themes of the book (or at least we try!)Why this book is/was bannedThe cast: Michael Sacks (Billy Pilgrim,) Ron Liebman (Paul Lazzaro,) Eugene Roche (Edgar Derby,) Sharon Gans (Valencia,) Valeria Perrine (Montana Wildhack,) Holly Near (Barbara Pilgrim,) Perry King (Robert Pilgrim,) Kevin Conway (Roland Weary,) Frederich von Ledebur (German Leader,) Sorrel Booke (Lionel Merble,) Roberts Blossom (Wild Bob Cody,) John Dehner (Professor Rumfoord,) and Richard Schaal as Howard W. Campbell Jr. Clips used:Howard W. Campbell Jr. wants to recruit the WW2 prisonersKurt Vonnegut Jr in Back to SchoolSlaughterhouse-Five trailer Billy caught behind enemy linesDeath of Billy's wifeSinging on the planeMusic by Glenn Gould Book Vs. Movie is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you will love Frolic.Media/podcasts. Join our Patreon page to help support the show! https://www.patreon.com/bookversusmovie Book Vs. Movie podcast https://www.facebook.com/bookversusmovie/Twitter @bookversusmovie www.bookversusmovie.comEmail us at bookversusmoviepodcast@gmail.com Margo D. @BrooklynFitChik www.brooklynfitchick.com brooklynfitchick@gmail.comMargo P. @ShesNachoMama https://coloniabook.weebly.com/ Our logo was designed by Madeleine Gainey/Studio 39 Marketing Follow on Instagram @Studio39Marketing & @musicalmadeleine

Book Vs Movie Podcast
Slaughterhouse Five (1972) Kurt Vonnegut, George Roy Hill, Michael Sacks, Ron Liebman

Book Vs Movie Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2022 71:17


Book Vs. Movie: Slaughterhouse-Five The 1969 Kurt Vonnegut Masterpiece Vs. the 1972 Filmed AdaptationThe Margos continue “Banned Book Month” with one of the most controversial works by celebrated author Kurt Vonnegut, 1969's antiwar novel Slaughterhouse-Five: or The Children's Crusade: A Dirty Dance with Death. Vonnegut's fictional account of his real-life experience as a prisoner of war and the WW2 Dresden bombing was published at the height of the Viet Nam conflict and appreciated by millions who loved the science-fiction blend of sex, the futility of war, American hypocrisy, and the meaning of life. The lead character of Billy Pilgrim is “unstuck in time” as he moves from different events in life due to his traumatic war experiences. Captured by the Germans after the Battle of the Bulge, the weak Pilgrim and his cohorts are marched to Dresden during the waning days of WW2, not knowing that the allies were planning to bomb the open city that had approximately 25,000 citizens who were not in the military. By staying in a meat locker underground, he and a few others survive only to have to clean up what is left behind. When he returns home, he encounters aliens from Tralfamodore who bring him to their planet to study him. This is when he learns he can time jump and find out exactly when he will die. In the end, he finds that life has no meaning, and…so it goes. George Roy Hill (The Sting, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid) directs the filmed adaptation, which stars Michaels Sacks, Ron Liebman, and Valerie Perrine, which made the author very happy. So between the book and the film, which did we like better?In this ep, the Margos discuss:Kurt Vonnegut and his life's work plus his love of comedyBanned Books and recent U.S. issues with this at schools across the nationThe themes of the book (or at least we try!)Why this book is/was bannedThe cast: Michael Sacks (Billy Pilgrim,) Ron Liebman (Paul Lazzaro,) Eugene Roche (Edgar Derby,) Sharon Gans (Valencia,) Valeria Perrine (Montana Wildhack,) Holly Near (Barbara Pilgrim,) Perry King (Robert Pilgrim,) Kevin Conway (Roland Weary,) Frederich von Ledebur (German Leader,) Sorrel Booke (Lionel Merble,) Roberts Blossom (Wild Bob Cody,) John Dehner (Professor Rumfoord,) and Richard Schaal as Howard W. Campbell Jr. Clips used:Howard W. Campbell Jr. wants to recruit the WW2 prisonersKurt Vonnegut Jr in Back to SchoolSlaughterhouse-Five trailer Billy caught behind enemy linesDeath of Billy's wifeSinging on the planeMusic by Glenn Gould Book Vs. Movie is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you will love Frolic.Media/podcasts. Join our Patreon page to help support the show! https://www.patreon.com/bookversusmovie Book Vs. Movie podcast https://www.facebook.com/bookversusmovie/Twitter @bookversusmovie www.bookversusmovie.comEmail us at bookversusmoviepodcast@gmail.com Margo D. @BrooklynFitChik www.brooklynfitchick.com brooklynfitchick@gmail.comMargo P. @ShesNachoMama https://coloniabook.weebly.com/ Our logo was designed by Madeleine Gainey/Studio 39 Marketing Follow on Instagram @Studio39Marketing & @musicalmadeleine

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge
Bonus Smoke: She Looks Innocent But She Is A Freak

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2022 59:27


This Savage Saturday, I Interview Newbie Plusize Princess. She started in 2020 with an onlyfans and a twitter posting pics then she decided to do boy girl. She tells me about her 1st porn shoot ever with Billy Pilgrim. She talks about how she found him and how much of a crush she has on him. We talked about what she learned from the shoot and how she going to use this knowledge moving forward. We discuss her plans for the future to whom she looking to work with, and the type of scene she is interested in doing. We discuss her job nd her personal life and of course me giving her some knowledge here and there. Plus we discuss her working with me when it comes to porn, but as my muse not as me being male talent. I'm retired. You want exclusive and Premium episodes. Subscribe to my Premium Smoke Room https://anchor.fm/smokethisova/subscribe for 5 Premium Podcasts and Special episodes ($4.99 a month) Sponsored By https://lsswirl.com/ https://eroticismmagazine.com/ https://www.xsitebunny.com/ Proud Member of The G.W. District Black Podcast Network https://www.shopgwdistrict.com/pages/podcast-network Porn/ Music/ Social Media https://allmylinks.com/pornrapstar Guest: Plusize Princess https://twitter.com/plusizprincess solo.to/plusizprincess --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/smokethisova/message

Stories We Can Tell

Unstuck There he was, out on the porch When I pulled up. CR didn't seem to notice me. He rocked away the summer morning With his German Shepherd pup, Slowly sipping on his tea With the spoon still in his cup. “You'll put your eye out,” I warned him But he didn't seem to care. He just patted the dog and sang a song To someone who wasn't there: Jeannie won't you lay with me And scratch my back a while, Whisper in my ear Sweet things that make me smile Ever since he quit the booze He sits out here and reads the news And worries about his country. CR flies a little flag on a stick taped to the lamppost, A Christmas wreath still graced the door. Finding nothing to fall back on, He drops the paper on the floor. “Sean,” he said, “They're taking books right off the shelf And I don't feel so good myself.” Staring out into the sunburned lawn, He kept on rocking, rocking on, still talking— “A bobcat killed the rooster down at Honest John's.” I wasn't sure of what to say or just how I should respond But I promised I would buy him a flag of decent size. He told me not to bother And wiped the water from his eyes. “I figure anybody who can fly a great big flag Can fly a great small one,” he said, Gazing out towards my pickup truck. “A little girl gave me that one At the Veterans Day parade. She sat down right beside me on the curb And drank her lemonade. We spoke of kindness, love, and beauty In the universe displayed.” Then he sang another song: Billy Pilgrim they will burn you, Just you wait and see. It seems you've made the list Of Moms for Liberty. Guilty of the heinous crime Of coming all unstuck in time, Billy, you've been a friend to me. “Is that you, CR? Coming all unstuck?” I asked. I recognized the line from a book He made me read in high school. “I guess,” he answered. “But Vonnegut was with your Pop in World War Two. A nightmare. No big deal, they said—just what they had to do. Billy, he won't work on Maggie's farm, And he sure won't study war no more. That's what got him banned.” I leaned on the post and nodded But I couldn't really comprehend. And CR sang his verse again. Then, for the first time, at least with me, He spoke of Vietnam. “They drafted you right out of school,” I said, “According to my Mom.” “Yeah, I won the lottery.” “Number 93, Spec 4, 25th Infantry.” He talked about Long Binh and Cu Chi, LZ's and IED's And losing two friends from Indiana. Sleeping in the rice fields To hear Charlie coming out, ‘Didi Mow!' The GI's shout— Dinki Dow and getting out of there somehow Before he turned 21. “I made six fifty a month. Sent all but forty of it home Except for the time I went to Australia.” “You went to Australia?” “Hell, that was 50 years ago. Everybody was talking Thailand, Said Australia was way too far For just a week on R&R. I had my heart all set on Sydney, though, Spent a week there with an older woman, don't you know.” He shook his head and laughed. I told CR that I once had a science teacher who served. A Helicopter pilot. He wore an eyepatch like a pirate. Scar down the side of his face. Talked politics at the drop of a hat— Called himself a Southern Democrat I forgot I remembered him. He was always walking around Swinging his old baseball bat. Offered no war stories—said he was just glad to be alive. One of the last to leave Saigon in 1975 Before it fell. It was quiet for a time while— Neither of us said a thing, Both of us sweat the sweat that summer brings. Afraid he couldn't hear the songbirds sing, CR refused to use the fan I gave him. He stared out again across the lawn. He kept on rocking, rocking on— It seemed to comfort him, But then he stopped. “She wore a yellow sundress.” “Who?” “The little girl with the flag. Dawn. She said her name was Dawn. I liked that name. Last week a shooter walked into her school And now she's gone.” “What?” “Along with 19 others, she is gone.” “What am I supposed to do with that?” I asked after a moment. “I don't know.” CR ra

How to Do Drugs
Billy Pilgrim

How to Do Drugs

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2022 65:18


This week adult performer and good friend Billy Pilgrim talks about dealing with mental illness, benders, finding the right combo of meds, doing what you love, how he can't die, and more!

Unsane Radio
Unsane Radio 0171 – No Alien Coasters

Unsane Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2022 43:54


Your time trippin' hosts jump into a lively discussion of the movie ARRIVAL (2016) directed by Denis Villeneuve, based on the story “Story of Your Life” by Ted Chiang. Music for this session provided by Billy Pilgrim and the Talfamadorians from their first album FART AND TAP DANCE (1970). You will read this in the … Continue reading "Unsane Radio 0171 – No Alien Coasters"

Unsane Radio
Unsane Radio 0171 – No Alien Coasters

Unsane Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2022 43:54


Your time trippin' hosts jump into a lively discussion of the movie ARRIVAL (2016) directed by Denis Villeneuve, based on the story “Story of Your Life” by Ted Chiang. Music for this session provided by Billy Pilgrim and the Talfamadorians from their first album FART AND TAP DANCE (1970). You will read this in the … Continue reading "Unsane Radio 0171 – No Alien Coasters"

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge
Pilgrim On Wrestling Episode 20: Forbidden Door Review

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2022 135:55


This week and Billy Pilgrim we discuss the overturning of Roe VS Wade and then we review AEWxNJPW Forbidden Door PPV. Plus in Ode To The Old School , we celebrate pride month with the story of Pat Patterson who was an openly gay wrestler. We chronical his career and what he faced with her life partner during his career . Also this week's installment of The Gordon Solie Poetry Corner. https://anchor.fm/smokethisova/subscribe Subscribe for $4.99 a month 5 premium podcasts & 3 limited series podcasts for a low price --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/smokethisova/message

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S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge
Pro Wrestling Smoke Episode 10: The Forbidden Door But Different Room

S.T.O. The Smoker's Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2022 68:54


This week me and Billy Pilgrim discusses iinjury bug hitting both WWE and AEW and how the Forbidden Door PPV is affected. We discuss Orange Cassidy and his gimmick plus the build or lack there of for the PPV. This episode is Free for all --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/smokethisova/message

Songcraft: Spotlight on Songwriters
Ep. 194 - KRISTIAN BUSH of Sugarland ("Stuck Like Glue")

Songcraft: Spotlight on Songwriters

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2022 101:51 Very Popular


SUMMARY:Our guest is Grammy winner Kristian Bush, best known as one half of the country duo Sugarland. He chats about a career that has earned him six BMI awards, five ACM awards, and five CMA Vocal Duo of the Year honors, as well as about his ambitious new solo project, which will include four albums in one year that will present a total of 52 songs.PART ONE:Paul and Scott talk celebrity softball tournaments, John Schneider, waterbeds, and Walter Payton. And it's even weirder than it sounds.  PART TWO:Our in-depth conversation with Kristian BushABOUT KRISTIAN BUSH:Kristian Bush is best known as one half of the platinum-selling country duo Sugarland. The Sevierville, Tennessee native spent his formative years making music with his brother Brandon, who would go on to play keyboards in the rock brand Train. Kristian launched his professional music career from Atlanta in 1994 with the folk-rock duo Billy Pilgrim, which released two albums for Atlantic Records. Within the decade, he moved on to form Sugarland with Kristen Hall and Jennifer Nettles, and the group's debut single “Baby Girl” became a massive hit. Their debut album, Twice the Speed of Life, which was produced by Garth Fundis, was certified triple platinum. With the departure of Kristen Hall, Sugarland became a duo that went on to rack up five #1 hit singles, including “All I Want to Do” and the Grammy-winning “Stay.” Additional hits followed, including the double platinum “Stuck Like Glue” and “Babe,” a collaboration with Taylor Swift. Sugarland has sold over 22 million albums worldwide and was inducted into the Georgia Music Hall of Fame. Kristian has earned six BMI awards and is a four-time Grammy nominee. In addition to five ACM awards, Sugarland has won the CMA's Vocal Duo of the Year honor five times. Kristian's most recent solo project is called 52, a series of four albums comprised of a total of 52 songs. The first installment, called ATL x BNA is available now. 

Rock N Roll Pantheon
Music Buzzz Ep. 38: Kristian Bush (Billy Pilgrim & more)

Rock N Roll Pantheon

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2022 53:05


Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist.ABOUT THE PODCAST: Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & LiveABOUT THE HOSTS:All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall.

Rock N Roll Pantheon
Music Buzzz Ep. 38: Kristian Bush (Billy Pilgrim & more)

Rock N Roll Pantheon

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2022 54:35


Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist. ABOUT THE PODCAST:  Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & Live ABOUT THE HOSTS: All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Music Buzzz Podcast
Ep. 38: Kristian Bush (Billy Pilgrim & more) - Music Buzzz Podcast

Music Buzzz Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2022 54:05


ABOUT KRISTIAN BUSH: Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist. ABOUT THE PODCAST:  Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & Live ABOUT THE HOSTS: All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Music Buzzz Podcast
Ep. 38: Kristian Bush (Billy Pilgrim & more) - Music Buzzz Podcast

Music Buzzz Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2022 53:05


ABOUT KRISTIAN BUSH:Kristian Bush is a GRAMMY® Award-winning singer, songwriter, producer and multi-instrumentalist. Three times he's conjured his musical dreams into reality – once with his folk rock duo Billy Pilgrim, once with his country duo Sugarland - who have sold over 22 million albums worldwide, and most recently as a solo artist.ABOUT THE PODCAST: Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & LiveABOUT THE HOSTS:All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall.

52 The Podcast
After the Wine / Insomniac

52 The Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2022 26:19


Episode 4 is the swipe Kristian says will embarrass his kids. It's also the episode he hopes they don't listen to because they'll learn more than they wanted to know about their dad.In this episode, Kristian and Cindy dissect his soulful "After the Wine Wears Off," which he calls, "the song to talk you out of being my girlfriend." They paired it with "Insomniac," a '90s cut from Bush's early folk-rock band Billy Pilgrim, about how much he wants a girlfriend so he can sleep. Contradictory? Absolutely. It's also two sides of the same musician more than 20 years apart.

Book Cult
16-Slaughterhouse Five

Book Cult

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2021 48:36


War, aliens and Sydney's second favorite Kurt. This week we cover Slaughterhouse-Five, a wild book about a POW who also is abducted by aliens. Billy Pilgrim has truly done it all. If we were better podcast hosts we could tell you how much of this book is based on true events but we aren't so I can only guarantee that World War II is real but according to the government aliens have not come to earth. Anyways this episode also mentions dicks and tits, what more could you want?Don't forget to send us your book recommendations to bookcultpodcast@gmail.com--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/bookcult/support

Debut Buddies
Literary Protagonists with Kurt Baumeister & Leland Cheuk

Debut Buddies

Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2021 62:58


This week, authors Kurt Baumeister and Leland Cheuk are on the show to talk about Literary Protagonists. We dive into Hiro Protagonist, Patrick Bateman, Billy Pilgrim and more. And this week's games include Recast: Rewrite Edition, and the Thunderdome! Are you the hero of your own story? Find out!Check out Kurt's excellent writing via his website: https://kurtbaumeister.com/And Leland is also a prolific writer, so check his work out: https://lelandcheuk.com/You can support their press, 7.13 Books, too: https://713books.com/If you like our theme song, check out Michael J. O'Connor's music. He's prolific: https://michaeljoconnor.bandcamp.com/And heck, try to be not just the protagonist of your own story, but of everyone's. :D

Women of Substance Music Podcast
#1107 Music by RiverHouse Music feat. Rachel Lilian & Marla May, Doreen Pinkerton, Margo B Smith, Pivotal Awakening, Francyl Gawryn, Yvette Medina, Shareena Casey, writer Billy Pilgrim, Doreen Pinkerton, Yvette Medina

Women of Substance Music Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2020 51:57


To get live links to the music we play and resources we offer, visit This show includes the following songs: RiverHouse Music feat. Rachel Lilian & Marla May - Stand and Sing  Doreen Pinkerton - Jesus! Margo B Smith - Alleluia, Alleluia Pivotal Awakening - Questions Answered Francyl Gawryn - When Love Reigns Free Yvette Medina - Sorrow Into A Song Shareena Casey - Hallelujah Forevermore writer Billy Pilgrim - I Sing Featuring Morgan Hannah  Doreen Pinkerton - My Prayer Yvette Medina - Don't Be Afraid For Music Biz Resources Visit Visit our Sponsor Bandzoogle at: Visit our Sponsor Pivotal Awakening at: Visit our Sponsor Margo B. Smith at: Visit our Sponsor Francyl Gawryn at: