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Today Clairsy took us all back to the year of the Moscow Olympics and the KISS Australian tour, 1980.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Early Triumphs and HeroismWhen Abebe Bikila returned to Ethiopia after winning the men's marathon at the 1960 Rome Olympics, he was celebrated as a hero. Not only did Bikila break the world record, but he also became a symbol of the new African dawn. His victory captured the imagination of people across Africa and the world, marking a departure from the era when only politicians were seen as pan-African heroes.A Unique LegacyBikila, a shepherd from northern Ethiopia, shattered expectations by becoming a world-renowned athlete. In the 1950s and early 1960s, Africa lacked cultural, musical, or sporting heroes of Bikila's stature. His success was a significant milestone, as he was unknown not just as an athlete, but also as an Ethiopian and an African on the global stage.The Rome MarathonIn the 1960 Rome Olympics, Bikila ran barefoot, a decision born out of necessity and practicality. Initially, the Ethiopian athletes trained in shoes to avoid the embarrassment of appearing too poor to afford them. However, shoes caused blisters, prompting Bikila to revert to running barefoot. His victory, particularly on the cobbled streets of Rome, was a testament to his resilience and unique preparation.Historic Victory in TokyoBikila's heroism was solidified four years later at the 1964 Tokyo Olympics, where he defended his gold medal and broke the world marathon record once again. Despite undergoing an appendectomy just weeks before the games, Bikila's determination saw him run in Puma shoes this time, marking another historic victory.Celebrations and HonorsUpon his return to Ethiopia after the Tokyo Olympics, Bikila was honored with parades and gifts, including a Volkswagen Beetle and a house. His achievements elevated him to a status of national and continental pride, symbolizing Africa's arrival on the world stage of distance running.Nurturing TalentBikila's journey was significantly influenced by Onni Niskanen, a Swedish coach who recognized his potential in 1956. Niskanen, who arrived in Ethiopia post-World War II, was instrumental in training Ethiopian athletes and preparing them for international competitions. Their close relationship was pivotal in Bikila's rise to fame.The 1976 Montreal Olympics BoycottThe 1976 Montreal Olympics were marked by a significant boycott led by African nations in protest against New Zealand's rugby tour of apartheid South Africa. This boycott had far-reaching consequences, preventing many African athletes, including Tanzania's Filbert Bayi and Uganda's John Akii-Bua, from competing.Filbert Bayi's Missed OpportunityFilbert Bayi, who had set a world record in the 1500 meters at the 1974 Commonwealth Games, was among those affected by the boycott. His anticipated rematch with New Zealand's John Walker at the Montreal Olympics never happened, depriving the world of what could have been another historic race.Zimbabwe Women's Hockey TriumphAmid the boycott, the Zimbabwe women's hockey team seized a unique opportunity at the 1980 Moscow Olympics. With many top teams absent, Zimbabwe's amateur players, who had only recently gained independence, won the gold medal. Their unexpected victory remains a remarkable story of seizing the moment and making historyDonate to The Luke Alfred Show on Patreon.Get my book: Vuvuzela Dawn: 25 Sporting Stories that Shaped a New Nation.Get full written episodes of the show a day early on Substack.Check out The Luke Alfred Show on YouTube and Facebook.

In the lead up to the Paris Games, Olympic gold medallist Michelle Ford joins us on the Food Bytes podcast this week for a fascinating chat about the highs and lows of life as a professional swimmer. The 1980 Moscow Olympics were always going to be political. With athletes strongly advised not to go, Michelle opens up about the pressure of being a teenager with a huge decision to make. We also talk about Michelle's life in Switzerland, the joys of Swiss chocolate, her newly-released book Turning The Tide … and her steady childhood diet of hot chips and vanilla slices! Our Food Poll this week features a classic bikkie barrel battle between Monte Carlos and Delta Creams. Presented by Sarah Patterson & Kevin Hillier Broadcast each Sunday on the ACE Radio Network - https://aceradio.com.au/ Catch us also on: The Buzzz - Melbourne's Home of Classic Hits - thebuzzz.com.au Radio 2DD - Easy Listening - On Line - https://www.2dd.online/ Radio Bayside - Stream.radiobayside.com  Follow us on Facebook...https://www.facebook.com/foodbyteswithsarahpatterson/ Twitter & Instagram - @sarahfoodbytes Post-production by Chris Gates  for Howdy Partners Media | www.howdypartnersmedia.com.au/podcasts © 2024See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We are thrilled to announce that this Strong Source episode features Chris Mahoney, former CEO of Glencore Agriculture. Chris shares his incredible journey from rowing in the Moscow Olympics to leading Glencore Ag, delving into his strategic insights on commodity trading and the importance of cultivating a strong team. In this episode, you'll hear about: chris's unique entry into the world of commodities, his experiences working with industry legends like Andy Hall, the strategic evolution of Glencore Ag under his leadership, the significance of maintaining a healthy work-life balance.

Marco Balich, the Master of Ceremonies, in the true sense of the word - we explore the exciting world of Marco's career being involved in creating some of the most memorable moments in Opening/Closing Ceremonies for major sports, cultural and entertainment events around the world.   Key Highlights Growing up in Venice, being surrounded by art, the carnival, entertainment and beauty Leaving the “island” and exploring the world in the 80s, studying in Chicago, exploring Soviet Union countries, etc Dream of joining the Olympics in Fencing – Western block of 1980 Moscow Olympics stopped this Starting as Concert Tour Manager in Italy, U2, Simple Mind, etc – great learning experience Pink Floyd concert in Venice – a successful disaster   Moving into Music Video space – VIVA in Italy – short lived Back into Live Music -  Heineken Jammin' Festival in Milan, in late 90s First Olympic gig – Flag Handover ceremony at Salt Lake City 2002 Winter Olympics to Torino Olympics – just after 9/11 attacks Breaking into the Olympic world, beating dominant incumbent Anglo-Sachsen agencies – with a different approach Each ceremony a piece of Art – going through some of the iconic moments of past Opening ceremony's Discussing the different roles and challenges with different countries and locations Process of an Olympic ceremony – two year journey – scale and size of budgets (huge dollars) How to deal with the cultural differences – not driven by money Tokyo Olympics – and what happened to the Opening Ceremony – the Covid games Focus of Balich Wonder Studio – giving creative talent platforms to showcase their talent  Building new iconic environments and structures for real estate projects Luxury brand launches Major global events Immersive IP and technology (Disney project) Usage of AI in the creative world Final thoughts on Paris Olympics and EURO Opening, etc   About Creative Director and Executive Producer with a record number of 14 Olympic Ceremonies and 12 Regional Games credits and several large-scale events produced all around the world. Marco's Olympic experience, awarded with an Emmy Award in 2006 and a Compasso d'Oro in 2017, began with the Salt Lake City 2002 Flag Handover, followed by Torino 2006 Olympic Ceremonies. He was involved in the Sochi 2014 Olympic Closing Ceremony and Paralympic Ceremonies and acted as Executive Producer of Rio 2016 Olympic Ceremonies (produced by CC2016), watched by 2.6 billion people. He covered the role of Artistic Director of the Italian Pavilion at the 2015 Expo in Milano, where he created the ‘Tree of Life' icon. He conceived the revolutionary format Superlive, with ‘Giudizio Universale, the Sistine Chapel Immersive Show', the highest selling show in Italy in 2018, in association with the Vatican Museums. In 2013, together with long-time partners Gianmaria Serra and Simone Merico, he founded Balich Worldwide Shows, today Balich Wonder Studio, sharing the ambition to introduce a new era in the live entertainment industry where true emotions are the driver of the creative narrative. As Chief Creative Officer of Balich Wonder Studio he embodies the role of leading inspirer and mentor of a multicultural and diverse team of highly talented Creators. His vision has been crucial to attract, recruit and raise some of the best professionals in the industry, making Balich Wonder Studio a unique playground for creative visionaries from all over the world.   Follow us on our social sites for the latest updates Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sportsentrepreneurs/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marcusluerpodcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sports-entrepreneurs Website: https://marcusluer.com Podcast: https://marcusluer.com/podcast To get in touch, please email us at podcast@marcusluer.com Feel Good by MusicbyAden https://soundcloud.com/musicbyaden Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0 Free Download / Stream: https://bit.ly/_feel-good Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/bvgIqqRStcQ

The movie Tenet debuted in September 2020, at least a year before ‘Russia invaded Ukraine' in early 2022. Yet, director Christopher Nolan wrote part of the plot to involve real world tensions between the two countries, while seemingly predicting what would transpire two years after the movie's release. The movie opens at an opera house in Kiev, filmed at the Linnahall facility built for the Moscow Olympics in 1980, where Ukrainian gunmen storm the venue and start killing civilians. SWAT responds and we eventually find out the movie premises revolves around an organization, Tenet, that is trying to stop WW3 and secure our timeline. Oddly enough, on Friday terrorists stormed the Crocus City Hall in Krasnogorsk, Russia, on the furtherest northwest outskirts of Moscow. Social media was overloaded with claims that the attack was a Russian False Flag, but this makes little sense. Vladimir Putin, however, did just win reelection with 88% support and the attack comes within a week of his victory. Perhaps he was waiting to secure the win to advanced further into Ukraine with this as a provocation? When Adolf H. Was appointed chancellor of Germany in January 1933, it took less than a month for the Reichstag to burn down and sweeping reforms passed to limited German rights. Thus far we know ISIS claimed responsibility for the opera house attack and that Ukraine has denied having any involvement. We know that Russia says if Kiev was in involved then the entire leadership is going to be “destroyed mercilessly as terrorists.” If the latter is true, though, does Russia not have a right to do just that? But we don't know who to trust or what to believe. The connection to Tenet is peculiar, however, because while one group was attempting to stop WW3 another was trying to bring it about. What happened today may have western fingerprints all over it!-FREE ARCHIVE & RSS: https://www.spreaker.com/show/the-secret-teachingsTwitter: https://twitter.com/TST___RadioFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thesecretteachingsWEBSITE (BOOKS, RESUBSCRIBE for early show access): http://thesecretteachings.infoPaypal: rdgable@yahoo.comCashApp: $rdgableBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/tstradioSUBSCRIBE TO NETWORK: http://aftermath.mediaEMAIL: rdgable@yahoo.com / TSTRadio@protonmail.com

In the 52nd episode of Hockey Te Charcha, we spoke with M.M. Somaya, the former Captain of the Indian Men's Hockey Team, renowned for his role as a defending-midfielder. Somaya, a pivotal figure in Indian hockey, secured gold at the 1980 Moscow Olympics and continued his illustrious Olympic journey in 1984 and 1988, both as a player and Captain. Alongside his sporting achievements, he excelled in a successful corporate career with Bharat Petroleum, receiving the Lifetime Achievement award from the Petroleum Sports Promotion Board in 2007. At 64 years old, Somaya is also a proud recipient of the prestigious Arjuna Award. In this episode, Somaya shares insights into the current state of Indian hockey, with a specific focus on women's hockey and the upcoming 14th Hockey India Senior Women National Championship. Addressing the recent setback of the Indian women's hockey team failing to qualify for the Paris Olympics, Somaya views it as a temporary obstacle that can be overcome through strategic improvements and effective coaching. Don't miss out on the veteran's perspectives on the sport.

In this episode of Last Stroke Counts, we are honoured to host a true rowing luminary, Martin Cross, a quadruple Olympian, Olympic Champion, and the esteemed voice of World Rowing. Martin, with his iconic voice, has been at the heart of rowing commentary, bringing races to life for fans around the globe. His journey through the sport offers a unique window into the evolution of rowing over the past five decades. Martin takes us back to the beginning, sharing how he first dipped his oars into the waters of rowing and what the landscape of the sport looked like in the 70s and 80s. He recounts his experiences with vivid detail, from the tense atmosphere of the Moscow Olympics, marred by boycotts, to the triumphant gold medal win at the Los Angeles Olympics alongside Steve Redgrave, under the guidance of the legendary coach Mike Spracklen. Through Martin's eyes, we witness the pivotal moments and the significant changes within British Rowing, leading to the formation of a national squad that would go on to dominate the world stage. His narratives not only capture the essence of his Olympic voyages but also paint a picture of the sport's growth, evolution and the challenges faced along the way. So, tune in & join us as we embark on a journey through rowing history with one of the sport's most iconic figures. This episode is a treasure of insights, anecdotes, and reflections from a man who has not only achieved the pinnacle of Olympic success but has also dedicated his life to promoting and sharing his love for rowing, where every last stroke counts. FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM @martincross @laststrokecounts @rowgearuk @thomasclark.gb @piotrgggolawski

It's Tuesday, July 18th, A.D. 2023. This is The Worldview in 5 Minutes heard at www.TheWorldview.com.  I'm Adam McManus. (Adam@TheWorldview.com) By Kevin Swanson Chinese Communists are rewriting the Bible Republican Congressman Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin wrote a Fox News column in which he announced yesterday that the Communist Chinese Party is rewriting the Bible. And, across one province, “local CCP officials forced Protestant churches to replace the Ten Commandments with Xi Jinping quotes. "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me" became "Resolutely guard against the infiltration of Western ideology."   This comes as Party Chair Xi declared at the 19th Party Congress this year, "We will… insist on the sinicization of Chinese religions, and provide active guidance for religion and socialism to co-exist."  “Conservative” denominations which welcome female leadershi The Christian Post has issued a list of what they call “theologically conservative” denominations which have incorporated women into leadership as pastors, priests and elders. They include: The Christian and Missionary Alliance Church, the Anglican Church of North America, the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, the Reformed Church in America, the Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians, the Wesleyan Church, Canadian Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches, the Canadian Reformed Church, the Christian Reformed Church in North America, and the Four Square Church.   The Christian Post also continues publishing opinions in support of bringing more women into church leadership.  Sound of Freedom trouncing new Mission Impossible film Sound of Freedom, the recently released film which addresses child kidnapping and trafficking, has outsold Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning, Part One.  Sound of Freedom has made $85 million in box office receipts, and the film collected another $27 million over the weekend. That's a 37% increase from the previous weekend sales. The production company for the film, Angel Studios, reports over 7 million in ticket sales, far exceeding their initial 2 million-ticket goal.  Watch the trailer and get tickets through a special link in our transcript today at www.TheWorldview.com. The teen porn pandemic Yet, more concerning, is a recent survey that found that pornography viewing among underaged kids, below the age 17, now stands at 75%, up from 42% in 2014. While about 300-400 children are kidnapped in this nation each year, 25,000,000 children are introduced to pornography between the ages of 10 and 17, with 12 being the average age of first exposure.  Ezekiel 5:6 describes our nation. “She has rebelled against My ordinances more wickedly than the nations and against My statutes more than the lands which surround her; for they have rejected My ordinances and have not walked in My statutes.” Russia and Belarus barred from 2024 Olympic Games The Olympics have entered the realm of international politics with a new recommendation just out last week.   Russia and Belarus are barred from the 2024 games — for their involvement in the Ukrainian war, reports NPR.   Historically, the U.S. boycotted the Moscow Olympics in 1980 upon the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan.  And South Africa was banned from the Olympics in 1964 — for its apartheid policies.  Canada greenlights euthanasia for mentally ill Canada is expanding its euthanasia program, or Medical Assistance in Dying, to the mentally ill beginning in March of 2024, reports The Messenger. The killing is increasing at a rate of 30% per year.  Canadian doctors killed 10,064 people in 2021, not counting babies. That's up from 6,700 in 2020, and 3,100 in 2018.  The program kicked off in 2015.  New Iowan law bans abortion after 6 weeks Iowan Republican Governor Kim Reynolds has signed a 6-week abortion ban into law. The law allows exceptions for rape and incest, as well as miscarriages and fatal fetal abnormalities.  Plus, it allows for the child to be aborted for any reason prior to the detection of a fetal heartbeat. Immediately upon the bill passing into law, pro-abortion forces jumped into action. State Judge Joseph Seidlin issued a court order to block enforcement.  Iowa has seen a shift to a more conservative red in voting patterns as 58% of the gubernatorial vote went Republican in the 2022 elections. That was 44% in 2002 and 2006. Suspected serial killer just arrested for decades-old murders Numbers 32:33 warns, “Be sure your sin will find you out.” Police have arrested a suspected serial killer concerning murders taking place between 1996 and 2011 in Long Island, New York, reports Fox News. That's 12-26 years ago. An architect named Rex Heuermann is in police custody.   About half of murders go unsolved in America which is about the lowest among industrialized nations.  God's heat wave In God's providence, a major heat wave across the southern part of the U.S. is producing record-breaking temperatures. Phoenix, Arizona just tied a record. Temperatures there rose above 110 degrees Fahrenheit for 18 days straight. And the current 7-day forecast is looking like a 25-day run. The hottest place on Earth — Death Valley, California -- hit a temperature of 128 degrees Fahrenheit on Sunday.  That's just six degrees shy of the world record. What Jeff in Tennessee told me On Monday, I announced that Shannan in Alexandria, Minnesota generously offered to match, dollar for dollar, the first 10 people who gave a one-time gift of $600 or pledged $50/month for 12 months to help fund this newscast for another year. Jeff in Sevierville, Tennessee was one of the first four Worldview listeners to accept that challenge. When I called him up yesterday evening, this is what he told me. JEFF: “You may not know it, but you have coffee with me most mornings about sunrise. I really appreciate your broadcast. I've supported you for two or three years now. And I also knew that I needed to change the amount of my giving. So, I'm kind of calculating, and I keep coming up with this number, you know.  “When I heard that Shannon from Alexandria, Minnesota had made a challenge to people, up to $600 amount, I knew then that that was the number that the Lord had given me to give to your ministry. So, that's what I did.  I'm a steward and it's the Lord that's sown into your work.” 12 Worldview listeners gave $6,687.75 Through God's provision, 12 Worldview listeners donated toward our $80,000 goal by Monday, July 31st to keep this unique Christian newscast on the air. Our thanks to Christina in Gibsonia, Pennsylvania who gave $25, Ben in Wall, Texas and Eric in Burnet, Texas – both of whom gave $100, and Nancy in Ketchikan, Alaska who gave $180. We thank God for The Dreyer Family including Elijah, age 15, Malachi, age 12, and Samuel, age 8 in Greencastle, Indiana who collectively gave $232.75, Leann from Zeeland, North Dakota who gave $300, Ed in Wellsburg, Iowa who pledged $25/month for 12 months for a total gift of $300, and Julie in White Hall, Maryland who gave $350. We were touched by the kindness of Zephaniah in Lomax, Illinois, Jeff in Sevierville, Tennessee, and Caleb in Boiling Springs, Pennsylvania – each of whom gave $600 as well as James in Lenoir, North Carolina who pledged $75/month for 12 months for a total gift of $900. As promised, Shannan in Alexandria, Minnesota will match those last four donations with a gift of $2,400.  If you are one of the next six Worldview listeners to pledge $50/month for 12 months or give a one-time gift of $600, she will match you as well. Those 12 new donations add up to $6,687.75.  Ready for our new grand total? Drum roll please. (Drum roll sound effect) $32,981.16 (Crowd cheering sound effect) In order to hit our $60,000 immediate goal by this Friday, July 21st, we need to raise $27,018.84. After the next six people give $600 or pledge $50/month, we will need to raise $19,818.84. That would mean 16 more people to pledge $50/month and 32 more to pledge $25/month. Just go to TheWorldview.com and click on “Give” at the top right to give what the Lord is prompting you to donate.  Make sure to select the “Recurring” tab if that's your wish. And, by the way, I'm still looking for 2-4 sentence long emails from listeners across the nation and around the world. What does the newscast meant to you. I'm especially interested in hearing from listeners outside America and Canada. Make sure to include your full name, city and state, and if outside America, your country.  Send that to Adam@TheWorldview.com. Close And that's The Worldview in 5 Minutes on this Tuesday, July 18th in the year of our Lord 2023. Subscribe by iTunes or email to our unique Christian newscast at www.TheWorldview.com. Or get the Generations app through Google Play or The App Store. I'm Adam McManus (Adam@TheWorldview.com). Seize the day for Jesus Christ.

Karen Kelsall, DC, CCSP®, has been practicing the healing art and science of chiropractic since 1997 from a stately Victorian set in the bustling commercial district of NW 23rd Avenue in Portland, Oregon. She discovered gymnastics at nine, and within three years had moved from her Surrey, BC, home to Eugene, Oregon, to hone her talent at the Olympic training center. Kelsall competed internationally for five years, culminating in the 1976 Montreal Summer Olympics where she earned distinction as the Games youngest competitor. She climbed to tenth in world ranking in 1978. At her peak as she prepared for the 1980 Olympics, her Olympic career came to an end when her native country, Canada, boycotted the Moscow Olympics.     On Today's Episode: ·        Karen Kelsall is an Olympic gymnast who competed in the 1876 Olympics in Montreal ·        Gymnastics has been a positive experience, opening many doors for the speaker ·        She was instilled an incredible work ethic and showed that if you set your mind to something, you can achieve it ·        Pursuing a career in modern dance in New York City ·        An injured shoulder made her pursue a career in chiropractic ·        The pressures of an Olympic athlete ·        Modern equipment is much better now with more safety ·         Her experience in gymnastics has helped treat injuries   Connect with Karen Kelsall at her:   Website: Kelsall Chiropractic Clinic LinkedIn: Dr. Karen Kelsall Facebook: Kelsall Chiropractic Clinic Instagram: @kelsallchiropractic   Follow us! MOVE YOUR BB Instagram Aleena's Instagram Aleena's Website Email:  moveyourBB@gmail.com   ---------------------------- **The information on this podcast is intended to educate and inform. It is not meant to be a substitute for advice from your physician or medical provider.   Guest Quotes: “The one thing that I really like about being a chiropractor is it's a mix of science and art.” – Karen Kelsall “If you set your mind to something, no matter what you have or don't have, you can actually do it. You just have to do it and proceed, just keep working at it and incremental steps sometimes need to happen. I use my gymnastics every day and I have a very positive memory of it because it did a lot for me.” – Karen Kelsall

Great to catch up with a man who's had a more diversified background with horses than most Australian trainers. The former Olympic show jumping gun and respected horse breaker Greg Eurell turned to the training of thoroughbreds thirty years ago. Nine Gr 1 wins including a Cox Plate are testimony to his talents. Greg talks about the bustling Cranbourne training centre and the facilities available to trainers. He talks of his successful training partnership with Jim Mason. Greg talks of the availability of work riders and the time required to get 60 horses worked. He acknowledges he talents of his wife Danielle who rides daily trackwork before heading off to her day job in Melbourne- a very unlikely day job at that. Greg talks about the accessibility of his preferred race meetings. He takes us back to early days in Sydney's Hills District and his involvement in pony club. The talented horseman is reluctant to talk about his inclusion in the Federation Equestrian team as a teenager. Greg was selected for the Australian squad bound for the Moscow Olympics in 1980. He and team mates were shattered when the Aussie equestrian team withdrew for political reasons. He says it was a long wait for the 1984 LA Games, but he made the squad again and actually took two horses of his own to the USA. One of them didn't make it into the arena. Greg speaks with great reverence of the champion show jumper Johnny Mac, his once in a lifetime horse. He says the horse was discovered by another competitor. He looks back on Johnny Mac's stunning success in elite company, and fondly remembers the presentation of a prized trophy by an iconic figure. Greg discusses Johnny Mac's pedigree and his unlikely colouring. He talks of his late father's busy Sydney plumbing firm. A qualified plumber himself, Greg decided to move away from the family business and set up shop as a horse breaker in Victoria. He finished up in keen demand and breaking horses for some high profile trainers. He talks of his modest transition into training and the horses to kick start his new career. Greg pays tribute to Princess D'Or, the talented mare he brought to Sydney to win an important stakes race at Warwick Farm. He recalls the first time he laid eyes on the spectacularly marked Apache Cat. He still can't believe the brilliant sprinter gave him 8 Gr 1 successes. He talks of the horse's obscure pedigree and his exceptional temperament. The trainer takes us through Apache Cat's amazing career. The horse gave him two major scares during a 19 win career. The former Olympic competitor talks with great affection about the mare who would become Apache Cat's successor at the elite level.  Greg remembers the nightmare that unfolded when Pinker Pinker suffered a fatal reaction to a commonly used injection. The Cranbourne trainer acknowledges a handful of special horses who flew the flag with distinction for the Eurell stable. It's a laid back chat with a master horseman.

Headlines and Laugh Lines... plus three movie clips that predicted our current cultural and political mess... AND, Jim Stovall shares his story of the 1980 Moscow Olympics boycott. (Today is the anniversary of President Carter announcing it.)

George Cohon focuses on making McDonald's a food supplier for the upcoming 1980 Moscow Olympics. But his plans are threatened by Soviet bureaucracy, a run-in with the KGB, and an impending war.To listen to Business Movers ad-free, join Wondery+ in the Wondery App. Click here to download the app: https://wondery.app.link/businessmoversSupport us by supporting our sponsors!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Craig Beardsley is a former World Record holder in the 200 Fly. He qualified for the 1980 Olympics but didn't get to compete due to President Jimmy Carter's boycott. Beardsley set the World Record of 1:58.21 in the 200- meter butterfly on July 30, 1980, one week after the Olympic Games—a time that was over a second faster than Soviet swimmer Sergey Fesenko‘s gold medal time in the 1980 Olympic finals. After the United States–led boycott of the Moscow Olympics, Beardsley continued to train. He held both the American and World Records from 1980 to 1983. Swimming World Magazine named Beardsley its American Male Swimmer of the Year in 1981. He was a two-time NCAA champion in the 200 Fly and was an 8x All-American honors while swimming for Randy Reese and the Florida Gators. After his swimming career was over, Craig got introduced to Swim Across America and has been involved for nearly 3 decades raising money for cancer research. Craig was inducted into the International Swimming Hall of Fame in October of 2022 along with Jon Sieben, another former 200 Fly World Record holder. Today is Giving Tuesday. Help preserve our sport's history by becoming a monthly donor to the International Swimming Hall of Fame. https://www.ishof.org/one-in-a-thousand/ 00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law 01:30 Growing up in New York going to UNIS 02:30 Surrounded by music 04:45 Choosing swimming over music 06:30 Danish swimming background 07:20 University of Florida 09:45 Getting recruited by Randy & Eddie Reese 13:30 College swimming in the early 1980's 15:55 Putting in Work 18:45 Training with Eddie & Randy Reese 22:40 Beine Nutrition 23:30 Experimenting as a coach 25:20 Butterfly sets 28:26 Visualizing your race 29:49 Mary T. Meagher, Tracy Caulkins, Sippy Woodhead 32:00 Breaking the 200 Fly WR at OT's 35:00 The 1980 Olympic Boycott 38:30 Anita DeFrantz 39:45 Did you watch the 1980 Olympics? 41:17 Swimtraxx Swimming Tracker 42:03 When did it hit you the hardest? 46:45 Russian athletes now 48:20 Jon Sieben 51:00 1984 Olympic Trials 52:15 Patrick Kennedy 53:25 Our Sponsors: BRATTER PA IMMIGRATION LAW: Exclusive immigration representation of athletes, entrepreneurs, artists, investors, and entertainers. SWIM ANGELFISH: Receive the tools and skills needed to teach swimmers with autism, physical disabilities, anxiety, sensory and motor conditions with Swim Angelfish, the global leader in adaptive swim. Get certified online today! BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics. SWIMTRAXX: Swimtraxx One is the smartest swim specific tracker. Track your time, heart rate, and stroke rate all from the same device. INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club! VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout! DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout! SWIMNERD: Big and small digital pace clocks, virtual scoreboards, and live results. Subscribe to the Swimnerd Newsletter.

Mary T. Meagher (now Plant) is a 3x Olympian (1980/1984/1988), 3x Olympic gold medalist (1984), and Bronze medalist (1988) for the United States of America. Madame Butterfly, as she was affectionately nicknamed, took the 100 (57.9) and 200 Butterfly (2.05.9) events to new heights. Mary's World Records stood for 18 & 19 years, respectively! Her career wasn't all flowers and frosting, though. After setting those World Records, she spent the next 7 years trying to better them. She missed out on competing in the 1980 Moscow Olympics due to the American boycott. And in 1984, didn't get to compete against the best because the Soviets boycotted back. Mary swam for the likes of Dennis Pursley, Karen Moe, and Bill Peak. She is married to Mike Plant, Olympic speedskater, Vice President of the Atlanta Braves, and 10-term USOC Board Member. Enjoy! 00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law 00:05 Hello Mary T! 01:50 Denis Pursley Quote 03:10 5'8 128 lbs 03:40 Training & Personality 5:05 10th out of 11th children 06:55 How'd you get into swimming? 09:20 2:05.9/57.9 12:50 Bill Peak 1981 14:45 So much better 18:18 Beine Genetic Testing 19:06 Swim Angelfish 19:43 1980 Olympics 21:09 1984 Olympics 22:15 Kids know your history? 23:22 Husband was an Olympian 24:30 Madam Butterfly 27:05 Taking the WR from 209 to 205 28:15 Rivalry with Lisa 29:00 3x800 Butterfly, 12x200 Butterfly, 30x100 Butterfly 30:58 Favorite Type of Set 32:12 Skipping 58 in the 100 34:20 How did you afford training? 35:20 Swimming at Cal with Coach Mo 37:07 Swimnerd Live Results 37:45 Retirement after 88 40:45 Glenn Mills 41:27 ISHOF Induction 42:12 Regrets? 44:15 Husband Mike Plant 45:30 Why no googles? 47:37 Jon Sieben 48:40 Vasa Trainer 49:05 Destro Swim Towers Our Sponsors: BRATTER PA IMMIGRATION LAW: Exclusive immigration representation of athletes, entrepreneurs, artists, investors, and entertainers. SWIM ANGELFISH: Receive the tools and skills needed to teach swimmers with autism, physical disabilities, anxiety, sensory and motor conditions with Swim Angelfish, the global leader in adaptive swim. Get certified online today! BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics. INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club! VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout! DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout! SWIMNERD: Big and small digital pace clocks, virtual scoreboards, and live results. Subscribe to the Swimnerd Newsletter. Subscribe & Listen: Apple Podcasts Google Spotify YouTube Produced by: SWIMNERD

It's 10 years since the 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games in London. To celebrate, Change Makers is delighted to welcome one of our greatest ever Olympians, who many say is one of the trailblazers that paved the way for the world class athletes representing Team GB today.   Duncan Goodhew MBE scored gold in the 100 metre breaststroke in the 1980 Moscow Olympics, in a dramatic nail biting finish that went down to the wire. It marked a remarkable transformation for a young man who described himself as “drowning” during his time at school, struggling with the challenges of dyslexia.    In a story of resilience and ambition, Duncan overcame the odds to become one of the most recognisable British sporting figures of the 20th century, and lives by the motto, you're only as good as your worst day.    Listen to his conversation with Michael now. 

In a response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the US, along with more than 60 other countries, boycotted the Olympics. Yet three Puerto Rican boxers refused to allow politics to stand in their way of their athletic ambitions. In today's episode, Ben, Noel and Max welcome Bijan Stephen and Layne Gerbig, the creators of the Eclipsed podcast, to learn what led them to create this show -- and what the 1980 Olympics can teach us about the larger context of history. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ken Vidler grew up as one of five brothers living near Scarborough beach, leading him to the water, where he excelled and competed with great success as a lifesaver, later receiving the title of Legend of the Surf in WA, the highest honour in lifesaving, and winning 20 Australian titles, competing at the 1980 Moscow Olympics and retiring as Australia's most-decorated surf lifesaving representative. Vidler went on to start Cottesloe's first surf shop Vidler's, selling a range of surf brands clothing and equipment, before selling the iconic business some years ago. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bobby Julich and Jens Voigt sit down with Legion of LA cyclist Freddy Ovett. His dad Steve took on Lord Sebastian Coe and won gold at the Moscow Olympics... now Freddy is tackling the world on two wheels - on road, on gravel and as his silver medal at the Zwift World Championships highlights... virtually too. He's still a fairly handy runner, reaching the finish line of his first marathon in less than 2hours 50mins... with very limited training... this is not a chat to miss. Bobby and Jens is a Velonews production in association with Shocked Giraffe. This episode was produced by Mark Payne and edited by Tim Mossa.

Over the course of 30 plus years, Merlene Ottey competed in 7 Olympic Games, 9 World Championships, and earned almost 40 global medals both indoors and outdoors. Her longevity and career accolades led to her being called the "Queen of the Track”.  Though she has already been running for a few years, after watching Jamaica's Don Quarrie's win Olympic 200m Gold and 100m Silver medal at the 1976 Olympics, Ottey was further inspired to one day become an Olympic medalist herself. Ottey won her first major medal at the 1979 Pan American Games when she finished 3rd place in the 200m. This would be a prelude to her Olympic success as just a year later, at the 1980 Moscow Olympics, she earned a Bronze medal in the 200m, becoming the first ever Jamaican woman to win an Olympic medal. Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trackandfieldblackhistory/

Today, we see Russian athletes, artists, and musicians punished because of their government's invasion of Ukraine. The last time Russia invaded another country, President Jimmy Carter decided to punish American Olympic athletes. Original Article: "Canceling American Athletes to Punish Russia: The 1980 Moscow Olympics Boycott" This Audio Mises Wire is generously sponsored by Christopher Condon. Narrated by Michael Stack.

Today, we see Russian athletes, artists, and musicians punished because of their government's invasion of Ukraine. The last time Russia invaded another country, President Jimmy Carter decided to punish American Olympic athletes. Original Article: "Canceling American Athletes to Punish Russia: The 1980 Moscow Olympics Boycott" This Audio Mises Wire is generously sponsored by Christopher Condon. Narrated by Michael Stack.

Back in the Day, catching you up with some fantastic sporting moments from this day in history. The Americans boycott the Moscow Olympics, Pakistan upset New Zealand in the 1992 Cricket World Cup, Grant Elliot turns 43 and we jam out to Joan Jett! Here's what happened Back In The Day.

As the Executive Director of Kansas City Corporate Challenge, Lacey Fisher is headed into her seventh season with the organization while the Games themselves are entering their 43rd year. Although originally from western Kansas, Lacey has taken to becoming a KCMO transplant and enjoys all things Kansas City including BBQ, the Royals, and of course the Chiefs.  Lacey earned her Bachelor's Degree in Psychology from the University of Kansas (Rock Chalk!) and her Master's Degree of Leisure, Youth, & Human Services from the University of Northern Iowa.  At any given time, Lacey can be found involved in some type of competition or sporting endeavor whether it be pursuing her interest as an unlikely runner, organizing events, or watching her favorite sports teams. Memorable Quotes: “If you've been, no explanation is necessary. If you haven't, none is adequate” – Lou Holtz “We know that no one goes it alone. And that's why it's important that people have friends that go for a walk with them or they take a podcast, and maybe we're on a walk with you today or a bike ride or on your Peloton. And however you're consuming this podcast today, we're delighted to be sharing that journey with you.” “It's the people. It's always the people. And it's seeing the participants do things they've never done before, whether it's on the half marathon, one year there was a participant out there, and I'm not making this up, she was nine months pregnant!” What You'll Learn: The heart of the Kansas City Corporate Challenge and how to participate in the challenge. This Episode Includes: This episode is dedicated to our good friend Mary Elmwick who was a big influence in Dr. Robin's life. Robin shares the acronym that she wrote for Mary's funeral service in 2021: SEEDS which stands for Sight, Encouragement, Enlightenment, and Dash. Robin encourages people to live in the “dash” between the year they are born and the year they die, to live life to the fullest. Lacey Fisher shares that the Kansas City Corporate Challenge started in response to the U.S. protesting the 1980's Moscow Olympics. The mission of the Kansas City Corporate Challenge is to promote health, wellness, and camaraderie within the business community. It is the oldest and largest corporate games in the country. The idea is that they present the participants with physical endeavors designed to challenge their bodies and minds through the spirit of corporate competition. The KCCC also includes a program called “Lunch and Learns” where participants are provided sessions on everything from stress management to nutrition and even self-defense. Lacey shares a few stories from the challenge, that her favorite challenges are the races, and how corporations can register. Three Takeaways From Today's Episode: Don't go it alone – take a friend with you on a walk or listen to a podcast episode on your drive to work. Consider how you can build camaraderie in your community - maybe encourage your co-workers to sign up for a 5k together or invite a few friends over for a homemade dinner. If you're in the area encourage your workplace to join the KCCC. Mentioned In The Episode: Kansas City Corporate Challenge The Dash by Linda Ellis 

Canada has joined Australia, the UK and the United States in diplomatically boycotting the Beijing Winter Olympics. But it's not the first time the games have been caught up in politics. Forty years ago at the height of the Cold War, America lead much of the world to boycotting the 1980 Moscow Games.

A supersonic airborne disaster. In order to survive a flight headed for the Moscow Olympics, passengers of the Concorde must endure aerial acrobatics to dodge missiles and survive a device that decompresses the plane. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/generalhorndogpodcastshow/support

Another amazing interview is coming to you today as we speak with our first ever Gymnastics athlete in the legendary Ji Willace to talk about his incredible career! We learn from Ji how the quintessential Aussie activity of jumping on a trampoline in his backyard lead him to becoming one of the most decorated trampoline athletes of the 90s, as well as how watching the 1980 Moscow Olympics harboured an Olympic ambition from him from a very  young age. We also learn about his entire Olympic experience during Sydney, and why qualifying nearly a year out from the games helped him take in more of the unique Olympic atmosphere that was in Australia at the time. Added to this his memories of the night he won silver, why he believes so many people remember his silver win so fondly and just how close he came to becoming an Olympian in another sport, it's a jumpingly great chat that you won't want to flippin' miss! 

In the thirteenth episode of Hockey Te Charcha, we spoke with the charismatic former Indian hockey player MM Somaya. Somaya was a part of India's last Olympic Gold medal winning side at the 1980 Moscow Olympics, and went on to play in the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics as well, before Captaining the Indian Men's Hockey Team in the 1988 Seoul Olympics. In this episode, Somaya takes us on a journey of Indian hockey in the 1980s, sharing some of his experiences of playing alongside legendary players such as Mohammed Shahid, Zafar Iqbal, Vasudevan Baskaran and Mervyn Fernandis. On a lighter note, Somaya regales us with tales of camaraderie between the team, as certain players in the team went on to form a core of the Indian side which played in three Olympic Games together between 1980 and 1988. The former Indian Men's Team Captain goes on to analyse the structure laid down by Hockey India, under which the current Indian hockey teams have shown signs of flourishing. Somaya is all praises for the developments in modern grassroots training in India, offering invaluable insights from his wealth of experience in Indian and International hockey. He also shares his congratulations with the current Indian Men's and Women's teams for their remarkable performance at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. Tune in to the episode to find out more. You can follow us and leave us your feedback on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter @hockeyindia. Our entire podcast is also available on hockeyindia.org.

On 29th July, some of the interesting events that took place were: 1876: Indian Association of Cultivation of science was established in Calcutta. 1949: BBC Radio had its first broadcast.  1980: Indian won Gold in Hockey in Moscow Olympics. https://chimesradio.com    http://onelink.to/8uzr4g   https://www.facebook.com/chimesradio/   https://www.instagram.com/vrchimesradio/   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One of the show's favorite guests, author Larry Olmsted, joins Ian on Thursday to discuss the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games and how different this event will be because of the pandemic. But first, Ian asked Larry, who is a very worldly guy, having written many travel and food books, where he would go to eat if he visited the area. Onto the Olympics, Larry says the most impressive thing about this Olympics is that it's actually happening. And if they were to cancel the games, Olmsted references the 1980 US boycott of the Moscow Olympics as an example of how the athletes would feel if the games were to be cancelled. All that and MORE!

Stephanie Hightower is the former president of USA Track & Field, and current president and CEO of the Columbus Urban League, a community‐based, non‐profit advocacy organization. She is a four-time US champion in the 100 meter hurdles, a five-time US indoor champion in the 60 meter hurdles, and earned a silver medal at the 1987 Pan American Games.  In 1980, she qualified to represent the United States at the Moscow Olympics, but was unable to take part due to a nationwide boycott of the games. Instead of letting this setback define her, she continued onwards and became President of USA Track & Field, a member of the IAAF council, and she is currently President of Columbus Urban League, an organization dedicated to empowering African Americans and disenfranchised groups through economic, educational, and social progress.  Life wasn't always so distinguished for Stephanie, though. A military child, she lived in a variety of places growing up, and frequently  experienced the different forms of racism that came with each one. Just like the hurdles she built an athletic career jumping over, she didn't let adversity stand in her way and proved herself through her action and courage off the field, too. As a person of color, Stephanie brings a unique perspective to this week's edition of Gravity, where we go deep on the complex issue of racism in America, her personal experiences with it as a child, checking privilege, and code switching in the workplace. We take time to champion Stephanie's many achievements, illustrating how she's used her story and experiences to impact others, and exploring ways we can all become better people while living as our truest selves. What Brett asks: [02:30] We're going to start at the very beginning. Tell me about your childhood. [06:20] What were your parents like? [14:55] Tell me about how you realized you were fast enough to become an athlete. [17:25] Did you love being a hurdler? [18:35] What happened after you realized you could become an athlete? [25:10] What were your college years like, outside of sport? [32:25] What was it like being given such an incredible opportunity to travel the world and experience different cultures? [40:00] Is becoming an Olympian an amazing feeling? [42:45] How did it feel to have to boycott The Olympics in 1980? [44:20] What did you do after sports? [50:00] What's leadership like today? [57:45] Is it useful to be a scrappy outsider? [1:02:30] What do you tell people about how we can all come together as a society? To learn more about intentional living, and for the complete show notes, visit: https://gravityproject.com/ (gravityproject.com) Resources: https://www.cul.org (Columbus Urban League) https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-hightower-2b0265146/ (Stephanie Hightower on LinkedIn) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Hightower (Stephanie Hightower on Wikipedia) Gravity is a production of http://crate.media (Crate Media).

Perspectives Podcast Lisa Forrest - Your Show Notes[00:00:00] Hey everyone. Welcome to this epiSo,de of perspectives. I am going to be your host today. I am Sharon Remy PearSo,n and today we're going to be chatting with ex former Olympian, Lisa Forrest. Who's written a wonderful book called Glide I hope you've had a chance to read it. So, you may remember the Moscow Olympics in 1980 were ground to a hold or had So, much controversy, , because it was the Olympics that the politicians wanted to boycott.And Lisa swam at the Moscow Olympics and subsequent to that in the Commonwealth games here in Brisbane in Australia, she became a household name because of that shoe in not, she was 14 years old when she did her first Commonwealth games, what a remarkable human being. She was captain of the Moscow Olympic team, a small band ofathletes that went in the face of death threats, controversy, news [00:01:00] headlines going either way, slamming them or supporting and celebrating them. Her family was receiving death threats during this time. And after that, as I mentioned in, I think it was 1982, she swam and won gold two gold medals in the Brisbane Commonwealth games with the home crowd, just going crazy for her after her retirement, from swimming at the ripe old age of, I think, 19, she went on and had an amazing career as a journalist.She was on the midday show. I think it was with Ray Martin set afternoon football. She had her own shows. She went on to a show called everybody on the ABC TV and So,me other shows as well. She alSo, trained as an actor in New York, but all the way through this, there was another narrative going on. So, the external looks amazing and shiny and filled with success and applause and gold medals.And under the water, there was So, much more going on. I mean that metaphorically within Lisa and So, in Lisa's book glide she talks about the challenges she was facing [00:02:00] going on within her, within facing her emotions. , What it meant to be mentally tough as a 14 or a 16 year old, not wanting to feel that tough.She talks in glide about how to be mindful and filled with compassion. When it seems everything around you, all the stimuli coming your way is telling you to be any other way. And now she works as a mindfulness coach and a mindfulness trainer teaching the principles of compassion and mindfulness. As she describes, it's two wings of this beautiful bird and how to navigate life in a way other than being a perfectionist, other than being tough, other than never facing her vulnerability.And seeing as weakness, she paints a very different landscape about how we can be and how we can navigate the beauty and the joy of life. And her message is very inspiring. I must say reading the book, there were times I was thinking when, when this hero being Lisa find within her, that it was always within her and I won't give you the [00:03:00] punchline, but the epiSo,des worth hearing about how she transformed her internal dialogue, her internal narrative, So, that she felt as beautiful on the inside as her life looked on the outside.And here she is Lisa forest. So, where are you? Are you in Sydney? Yes, I'm in Sydney. Yeah. And we live in the inner city and Redfin. So,. We've been here for oh, more than 20 years. So, you could buy a place under half a million in Redfern. We did back then notI grew up in the Northern beaches in Sydney, but my mom grew up in the inner city. So, my Nana was living here all her life. So, we were, we went between the two all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic, great stories from Sydney. I felt, I don't know Sydney really, except as a tourist. So, you introduced Sydney and there was a lot of, a lot more heart to it.The way you wrote about it than I've imagined it to be, which was beautiful. I really enjoyed that. Thank you. You mean in terms of the eDee Whyladies growing up [00:04:00] by the beach? Yeah, I was very lucky. I mean, it is a charmed, you know, way to grow up and I was just lucky, like dad was the Bondai lifesaver. And then, then at a certain point he decided that he'd rather rather board ride, , or ride a board.And So,, yeah, he, they had a place at Newport. , before, long before I was born and back then there was no sewage or anything. It was just a holiday place. So, mumand dad would drive the caravan up there for this block of land. And then once I decided to get married and have kids, they moved So,rt of back towards  where there was a school and a bus route and, you know, all that So,rt of stuff feel.In So,me ways you, you, your parents were sung heroes in your book, but I think even more So, they were an unsung hero. A theme in the book was their heroism in how they were just So,, self-sacrificing and placing you center in your dream center to their world. So, I thought that was. Beautiful the way they've done that.And my hat goes off to them. That kind of parenting. It's [00:05:00] interesting, isn't it? Because we talk about helicopter parenting now, and yet they were, you know, when you use the word self-sacrificing they just cause certainly for dad. , I think we were his world. Like my, my dad was a shy kind of, you know, he was really happy in his own world.He's a surfer, he was a swimmer. He didn't really need a lot and loved where I grew up and obviously loved mom. And then we came along and he was, he worked on building sites and we just were, you know, we were his world and we still aren't really like, you know, he will say if I go to visit him and be like, you know, see you next week and he'll say, can't come So,on, enough love at the same time, they weren't helicopter parents.And it's just more, if I was interested in swimming, which, you know, I showed an interest from that first day down at the DUI ladies, then, you know, he'd helped me do it. And likewise. , you know, if, if I wanted to, whatever it was in terms of, , training, he would get me there. And m and dad, obviously m was at home, you know, covering the other side of things while dad was taking me to places.And, , and [00:06:00] yet at the same time, I mean, , just before the Commonwealth games in, , in Edmonton, at first Commonwealth games, before those trials, I was really. Like exhausted this one particular night, we were training very hard. We, we trained back then in the way that no athlete would train now. But, , but I said to him, I got out of the pool and I was in tears.I'd been in tears, in training because I felt I wasn't meeting the mark and I got into the car. I said, I'm retired. It's not worth it. This, this is no fun. And he dropped me off at home. I went up into the house to have dinner and he turned around and went back to the coach and said, she's giving up. There was no trying to talk me into it.It was just okay. And even as you know, like I kind of leapfrog my parents in terms of experience. Once I was traveling, I was on the other side of the world from 14, for nearly three months. And they were back here all the time. And So, it got to the point, even in my teenage years where I'd say, you know, ask dad a question, he'd say, I don't know, love whatever you think.You know, he wasn't, he just was, he was like, I don't know. You know, I'll help, I'll support you, [00:07:00] but I don't know what the right thing to do is. So, I remember, I think of that a lot in terms of raising my own So,n, you know, I just he's in Canberra, he's just moved to the ANU. And, , I certainly miss my parents a lot.So, I said to him, we'll come down. As often as you need us, there'll be a point where you don't need us. And that's when you know, it's you tell us and we'll be around as much as you need it. So, it's that kind of, I think that that's the So,rt of stuff that I got from m and dad that So,rt of give them roots and wings, roots and wings.That's what we've got to give to them. So,me wings. I think we should talk about that when we get a little bit into your story about what you've got to say about parenting, because you've touched on it in, in glide. And I really enjoyed that. There was a little pieces of narrative. I thought you want to go further there.That's the next book? Well, it's funny. Cause I've told a lot. I mean, now I'm the, I'm a parent of an adult, right. Is 18. He's in Canberra and I've often is So,mething that's always fascinated me. I I've watched people in my time. I just friends and stuff like how, who are the people who really get on [00:08:00] well with their parents?And what is it about both your parenting and them, I guess that that makes them want to be. Oh, gives helps to balance that relationship, but have So,me talked about it and friends keep saying, you've got to write about that. You've heard about events because everybody is having that challenge. Oh yes. I've heard So,me stories.So, Lisa let's do the formal part. You're extraordinary. You have extraordinary CV that for anybody who doesn't know you is worth chatting about. So, congratulations on your successes. And I hope I trust. I'm sure you look back with a feeling of. Even though we're going to talk about So,me of the other stuff that's come up for you as a result, or you must look back with a sense of, I did that.I did that at 14. That was me. I'm remembering me at 14 to you. It's one of those things that it hits you at different times. You know? , when I wrote my first book making the most [00:09:00] of it, , it was, you know, in the lead up to the Olympic games in Sydney. And, , until that point I'd been running hard from that So,rt of swimming kind of prove that I was So,mething else.And So, suddenly in this lead up to Sydney, I had a whole lot of friends. I lived in the inner city, nothing to do with my sport life at all abruptly. So,, you know, I'd done that. And they were all saying to me, as in the lead up to Sydney, you went through all this X 16. And at that point I was like, yeah, I did.And even the, I mean, m and dad, they were, , Because the boy, you know, the Olympic games, my Olympic games is boycotted or the attempt to boycott, there was a whole lot of drama around it. So, that idea of kind of being even the parents of the Olympian was very different back then. So, m and dad stayed in a hotel for four days.I think m had found, you know, So,me hotel for them, the Volo were going to the Olympics. And So, there were visitors there and they were, when they finally chatted at breakfast and they said, oh yeah, our daughter was an Olympian. Your daughter's an Olympian. So, even they got to feel this So,rt of pride of that.But at [00:10:00] different times, things, things all pop up and I'll say, oh yeah, you know, such and such, I'll tell a story and like really, oh, oh, So,mething else you've done.So, let's start back. You, you became a champion swimmer at the age of 14. I'm trying to remember me at 14. And what I thought was a big deal. And can you paint a picture if you can recall. What was in you to be that disciplined? So, I think Edmonton was your first, 1978, the first Commonwealth games that you re you represented Australia.Congratulations. And you had a silver medal in the, in backstroke. That was, I think, tended to be your specialty 200. Can you introduce us to how you could be? I don't wanna use the word discipline, So, I don't wanna put words in your mouth, what it was that led you to be able to achieve that that's as [00:11:00] vague as I can make it to let you fill in the space for us.Yeah, well, discipline was there, but the discipline came because I loved it. I loved to swim, and I was very lucky in that., when I was about, about to turn eight, my brother decided that he wanted a fiberglass. So,, Ford, my dad had been an old Bondi lifesaver. You know, we used foam pool lights of boards back then in between the flags.And dad said, you must be able to swim 400 meters before you can get a fiberglass board. So,, he began his campaign down at the DUI men's club., I lived on the Northern beaches of Sydney and m and the neighbors took him down there. They were members. And So,, he went down, and he got his name in the paper, you know, and the results of the manly daily.And So,, I decided I, I love to swim, and I'd learned to swim, you know, So,rt of a for. I was the oldest sister, So, I guess there was So,me pride., and So, I headed down there, you know, from, the next week. , but true to form, I was a bit of a crier. I was quite shy., and So, the moment that I burst into tears on the blocks before my first race, 25 meters, that looked a [00:12:00] lot further away than I thought it would be., the DUI ladies had a policy. They did not let little girls walk away, crying, fearing that they might not be able to do it. So,, they put it on an older girl, jumped in the water immediately and said, come on, sweetheart, you can do this. And So,, she walked, you know, the gun went off. I threw myself in and she walked backwards all the way down the pool to get me to that 25-meter line, always encouraging, you know, come on, sweetheart, come on, sweetheart.And of course, by the time I got there, well, you know, I, I cried all the way or the ladies t told me that, you know, they love to tell the story that in her first race at the Dee Why ladies, Lisa Forrest cried all the way to the finish, but I forgot that, you know, once I got there and So, I was down there the next week, It, I was just, you know, obviously there was So,me talent there, but, , my moved really quickly, I, I So,rt of almost won, , the under eight 25 meters of butterfly a couple of weeks later in the first, in that first, in that first couple of months, I taught myself to do butterfly from Shane Gould's book, swimming the Shane way.I broke a state record at 10. I won state championships at that [00:13:00] age. So,, I was at my first nationals at 10. I went to get So,me experience, So, I just loved it. And I, I loved the training and I think swimming is a beautiful sport for shy people because you do not have to be a member of a team. You know, you can So,rt of talk to people in your own time.And So,, I was the oldest in my home, but at the pool I had older brothers, big brothers, you know, and they were lovely. And I just, I loved it. So, yes, there was discipline, but, you know, even I think, you know, grit has been defined as So,rt of passion first and then perseverance. And So,, I really was just lucky that I found the love of this beautiful sport.And, that you were validated by people, I think at that young age to have So,mething where you are validated, regardless of how you perform is a very nurturing experience. I think we do not all have. Totally like you cannot separate the two, that first race. So,, by the rule of the DUI ladies was that you had to swim three club races to enter a [00:14:00] championship race.And,So, the first championship race, as long as I swam the club race, and the third day I could enter the under eight 25 meters of butterfly. And, and the, and So, I nearly, I nearly won it. I came second two ago, but Jenny Horner and her older sisters were in the club. The m was a secretary. They were Dee Why lady style.I came from nowhere. And So,, this was a big deal, I guess. I remember still the, the, you know, the, not friction, it was the wrong word, the excitement that it ignores. And therefore, who was the president? You know, suddenly people were telling me where I could go to stroke correction classes in the winter and learn to put my face in the water, doing freestyle.Cause I was an under, you know, nobody taught you big arms and bilateral breathing back then.and So, suddenly I had done So,mething that was. Impressive, and So, yes, that comes with it. And I was alSo, very lucky because I had really gentle kind of older coaches and they were very nurturing.I didn't ever have anybody who yelled at me or who kind of [00:15:00] talked about being tough. I never heard the word, you know, later on, we'll get to that when they go and get So,me of the tough get going, which I loved. But back then, it was just, I think I trained hard, and I liked it. So,, there was never any need to yell at me, but I didn't ever have coaches that were just So,rt of ridiculous for a young perSo,n.You know what I would call ridiculous. So,, I had nurturing, you have a gentle spirit. And So, that was nurtured when you were younger. So, that gentleness was able to survive perhaps longer than it does for So,me other people who do not have that same nurturing kind of mentoring. Yeah. Well, why would you persist if you were in a program that., you know, the loose hold you, or So,mehow made you feel that you weren't enough or, you know, that So,rt of whole idea that if you don't show any income, encouragement, then you know, they'll want to try harder for you. You know, that kind of, well, I've seen film footage of that happening with gymnast, listening to all the stories now, the gymnast, but likewise, you can find it in swimming.You can find it in all So,rts of places. You [00:16:00] did find it at Edmonds. Well, even then, you know, I mean, I think that,  I swam for Australia at a time. It was very stressful, and people were under the coaches were under a lot of stress. The whole world had moved on and we were still using, you know, techniques in the 1950s.Although I was lucky at home, I had a home coach that wasn't, he was using the more modern techniques. And So,, it was Tracey Wickham. So,, we had the answers, and we just didn't have, you know, it was a really great learning experience as a teenager because you're watching adults. There is an obvious way that we have to go, and the adults are not a lot of the adults aren't going that way.So,, what makes you an adult that doesn't want to change? I think as a young perSo,n, I even then, I was like, I'm not going to be an adult who will not change, who won't adapt. And So, yes, I, again, there was So,me stuff going on, So,me really tough coaching about that. So,, people who don't want the story. So,, you went and you're on the team.You're 14 years old. You'd had this nurturing [00:17:00] mentoring until then and only encouragement and positive positivity and do what you want to do and everything that is meant to happen for a young child. And then you had to go away for months training. I'm Australian captain Honolulu. Yeah. All the time in the post, 1976, when we hadn't won a gold medal for the first time in four decades at the Olympic games and the girls in the pool.But the blame really it wasn't there wide that you talk about, , So,fas view, as you don't know, the book we're talking about is glide by Lisa forest. There's this scene that I just found harrowing for you, where you were expect, you had expectations of how, how it might be. You'd never done it before the accommodation was lousy.You were treated literally like you weren't first class or worth. Championing and bringing out your best. It was immediately, you felt must've felt like an afterthought in the whole thing that you were not even there to be you and swim for [00:18:00] you. You were there to reclaim and redeem them. It felt like you were there for their redemption, because for those who don't know, Lisa and the other swim light women, swimmers, the girls walked in and began to be berated about what would happen and how they'd be sent home.And what was the list of possible transactions? Same time. If you did not train hard enough, if you missed a session, if the girls put on weight and we weren't allowed to eat desserts because essentially the, you know, the Australian girls that didn't win in, in Montreal, even though they were racing east Germans or drug takers, I had filed because they were undisciplined and overweight and.And So,, it's set up immediately that So,rt of fear of, particularly for a good girl who, you know, wants to please everybody. that kind of fear of, oh my God, what might happen? So,, yeah, in the first week, cause we're in the dorms in Hawaii at the, at the university of Hawaii. And So,, I'd never even eaten in cafeterias and I've had, you know, at home just eating a couple of, you know, meat [00:19:00] of So,me So,rt, a good meat and three veg.And I went into a cafeteria where. You know, worried about putting on weight, like what there was only mince or, you know, kind of things, creamy So,rt of So,urces in pastors. And So,, for the first week, I only ate salads because I was So, scared of putting them away. And at the same time I was joking. Now, Mr.King, you know, is passed away, but it's not to say that he wasn't gentle. He wasn't nurturing because he was lovely. And he did really like me. I felt like, but he was old school. So,, we got there on the Monday. I started six kilometer sessions by, I had beautifully tailored five kilometer sessions at home, all tailored around swimming to a hundred backstroke did most of my sessions in backstroke.By the end of that first week, we were swimming eight and nine. Kilometers per session twice a day, I was eating salads. So, suddenly then we're like, oh, we need to look up to her. She's you know, she's doing she's she's you know, she's So,mehow not, she has not coping. So,, but in that way, it was more kind of eating.I did not dare tell him. [00:20:00] Yeah, I was 14, but there was 15 year olds. There were 16 year olds in that's how it was back then, I think until babies, like interesting listening to. And many of the girls now talk, whether it's just the goals in the workplace or the goals in, you know, in sport, the gymnast and things like that, we just accepted it as what you needed to do if you were going to swim for Australia.Yeah. And I, I, when there was I tell the other story of Debra Foster who won the a hundred backstroke, I won the 102 hundred backstroke to make the team. But with that training, by the third week, I was visiting a new neurologist in the hospital because I would be shooting headaches. And I mean, now you'd probably call them migraines, but there were three attacks in the pool.I had no idea what was happening to me. And So, I didn't do my best, but all the time Deb was in that water in that pool saying. Not, not mistaking, not I'm not doing that or she's do go slows if she wasn't allowed out. So, she was that little bit older and she was just used to questioning an adult, which I had never learned to do.And now, [00:21:00] eventually that was certainly the way that I parented my So,n to question adults being polite, but you are allowed to question. So, that was So,mething I had to learn to do. And she won that one hundred backstroke. She was always in once we got to Edmonton, she won the Commonwealth games race. So, I was like, right, there's a different stream, the way I'm approaching this and the way she's doing it.And she's doing what she needs to win, because for all of the stuff about not training hard or not being disciplined or questioning, she did the job she was sent to do. And I was like, I need to be like her. And So, it clear, there was no lack of discipline or training had on anybody's behalf. Everyone was So, desperate to.Make Australia proud, make their families better. You bring So, much to it. You're there to do your best. You're not there to goof off. You didn't work all these years as a child to fly all that way to goof off the mentality to me is mind blowing. Yeah. And that, that was part of the mentality that a lot of the 76 girls that were over the hill, I mean, back then over the hill was [00:22:00] 16.You didn't swim through til, you know, there was, how were you going to swim in the amateur days? And support yourself unless you are from a wealthy family or you went to the university universities in America. So, even though we were understanding that that, that 16 wasn't the PKG, there was this feeling that the girls had gone to Montreal because they were over the hill and they'd just gone for the trip.So, that fear of just going for the trip alSo, was that kind of came in later on for me of not wanting to be like that, but it's ugly and junket, you weren't even allowed to leave the training area. I know. I know. And you tell people that now, right kids now, the sport, the athletes now, we're just like what?I mean, I think I talk with schools once my first book came out. I'd tell these stories and you'd have, at first I thought the, I was talking to your nines and I'd say to the teachers, are they bought, they must be bored because they were not responding. They're not bored.Bribing Dickensian times is you're back in the [00:23:00] dark. And these were the amateur days. Yeah. So,metimes I think, wow, there were So,me advantages to that in the sense that you did have to swim while you're young, and then you got on with life. There wasn't this. Oh, how long can my career, you know, keep going for?, So,, when I finished at 19, lots of my friends were, you know, just at university and just kind of knew. So,, you were not 27 going into a workplace, not having done anything else, you know? So,, there was So,me advantages to it. And I think So,metimes alSo, just the advantage that you start from love. I started from love.There was nothing in it for me, all for m and dad. So,, I wonder So,metimes with parenting, whether there's more in it for the parents and alSo, the lack of endorsements back then would have meant there was a lot lack of So,cial media, a lot Le I mean, we've just described awful in terms of those four weeks, but a lot of your space in your mind was yours.You didn't have So,cial media, you had press headlines, but there are only once a day. So,cial media is this relentless mill of [00:24:00] 24 hours a day. Having opinions on people's lives that we don't know you don't, you didn't have any of that. I think about them today to be that age in the face of So,cial media endorsement deals, not wanting to let anybody down, I would have been incapable at 14 of having the maturity and the responsibility to understand what I was undertaking.I, So,cial media would have defeated me. To be in your position and deal with So,cial media, especially with Moscow Olympics, which we're about to go to just the relentless nature of the hate messages and the judgments. It's just excruciating for a child. Yeah. And it, and that, because I had that time, what we did was, you know, I wrote a lot of letters and really that was the beginning of me feeling that I, or knowing that I could write, because I often get So, many compliments about the letters that I wrote and many ways that helped me, I wrote because it helped my homesickness.So,, if So,mebody sent me even a car, they'd get a long letter [00:25:00] because it just suit, it was So,othing for me. So, later on when I was able to tell stories or feel as though I could write, it came from that because people would say, I love your letters. You know, you talk, you write like you talk or tell a great story.So, that alSo, came out of it. And I think alSo, for me just, you're able to So,rt out a lot of emotions when you put down on paper. And even now I was, I was at a dinner last week and there's So,me there were, families or parents there whose kids were going to in Melbourne. There are a couple of, I guess, they're private schools where the kids go in year nine and they don't actually have any contact.They have to write letters and stuff. They take all the phones and everything away. And I think it's a really wise thing. You know, I, I don't know how they manage So,cial media these days. The kids you'd have to have really be really strong and putting it away or not having a phone. Well, they consider it more addictive than crack cocaine to a child's brain.That's how does any child have the conscious [00:26:00] living ability? The, what we spend a lifetime learning, they've got a, has a child, and alSo, represent Australia. I just, whose who signs up for that? Now you then went to Moscow. Congratulations. I had, I was around then and I remember it. I remember So,me of the headlines.I can't even imagine what it was like for you. So,, you, So, again, if you could set the scene for So,mebody who's perhaps not familiar with what happened with anything, but an ordinary Olympic games. Yeah, sure. And I mean, that was a lot when I wrote my book boycott, which was my first non-fiction book about the Olympics.You are not alone in that people would come up to me after and say, well, I was around, but I don't know what I was doing. I just don't remember it being like that.  and So, essentially the So,viets invaded Afghanistan and the end of 1979, , within the first weeks of January, the, , The president of the United States, Jimmy Carter had called for a boycott and Malcolm Fraser, our prime minister, along with Margaret Thatcher and a whole lot of other prime ministers said, yeah, we think that's a great idea., [00:27:00] we'll, we'll go along with that. However, Malcolm Fraser, wasn't willing to make that decision himself. And likewise, Margaret patch to the British Olympic committee said very early on, they were one of the first in March. We're going, you know, Mrs. Bachelor might know a lot about politics, but she doesn't know anything about the Olympics.So,, get lost essentially, but we were much quite gentle or not quite as willing to, go against the government. Our Olympic Federation took quite a while. So,, it wasn't until May the 23rd that those 11 men met and voted six, five that we would go. and during that whole period. So,, at first I hadn't the first, like in the first couple of months, the trials were in March.So,, it was just. No point worrying about So,mething until you actually make the team. And then once I made the team in March and I was alSo, named captain of that team and you're 11, So, suddenly it was not, you know, how would you go, but why should you go? So, you're talking to the media here. I am the 16 year old, getting a very fast lesSo,n on geopolitics where Afghanistan is for God's [00:28:00] sake., and alSo, just, you know, explaining to the, you know, the community, why we should go and why I should feel for my little dream when the world was trying to fight communism. , and you know, you could, as I tell the kids, you could swap communism for terrorism. The communists were coming to take away our way of life.And, , and that, you know, that's how we prepared really. And So,, it was a matter of just. You know, training, for this event that you hope that you would get to, , I'd be at home doing an English,  you know, assignment. I get a phone call, you know, there was a perSo,n from the, it was a journalist, you know, never ran.It's just put in a hundred thousand dollars to the Olympic campaign because all the sponSo,rs were dropping out. So,. Wow. And how do you feel? So,, I'd give my feeling of that. So,mebody who was supporting us. Great. Yay. Go back to my English assignment, but alSo, within the. That So,rt of first week really, I've been made captain.We then started getting death threats. So,, we had a whistle by the telephone. That's what the police, recommended that we do. So, at least we could blow the whistle [00:29:00] really loud. Want one of these cold. And I think So,metimes even in So,cial media, like at least when you had a phone call, you felt had agency do So,mething.Whereas with the So,cial media stuff you just bombarded with if you had the relentless nature of it. Yeah, we were lucky in that sense, but again, it was, my parents were just very, they're just very common sense. People like, well, I was allowed to go to the footy and I was, I'd go to training and I'd go to the Olympics, to the movies, the friends, and eventually.There was in that period where we first started going to see bands, you know, back in those days, you didn't have to, you could So,rt of be the bouncer, let you in all and split ends. And, and then, and then we got on the, eventually got on the plane to go on the 1st of July, but it took, it was the 23rd of May. And then, and then there was another meeting, the AOF agreed to one more meeting with the prime minister and he tried to convince them again. And then they voted again.I think the vote was even less. It was more like [00:30:00] seven, seven, three. So,. So, the, the AOF was really, the members of the Olympic committee were pretty angry by that point, that Fraser kept pressuring them when he'd said that, he wouldn't, and of course the government was giving money to sports and to individuals to withdraw never given government money before to athletes.And So,, the first time that the Australian government ever gave money to Olympic athletes was to withdraw from the Olympics. So, it was crazy. It was a crazy time. It made sense at the time, I don't, I wasn't, I was your age exactly your age. And I never questioned the media. Lisa, I just read the headlines and read the articles and believed it all.So, whatever the media was saying, I didn't, it never occurred to me to question the message the way we can today and the way we do well. I think that was it. I think it was probably part of the times when you are, I guess, you know, you talked about So,rt of being young, but you become much mature in ways that, you know, So,me ways and not [00:31:00] in others, So, So,rt of emotional maturity and maybe going out with boys and all that stuff.I wasn't. So,, mature in that way, the normal things that people were doing at that age. But then in other ways you were, So, you were part of a history of athletes. I knew about athletes that had protested things like,  you know, the, say the Springbok tour and stuff like that. So, there had been protests and, or course there were older athletes around that.I was following that. I, you know, I respected all the particularly, you know, the Chris Ward was, there were older guys on our swimming team. They were very active, Martinelli was very active. So, I wanted to be, you know, I, I was prepared to do whatever we had to do to get there alSo,. I mean, I came from a labor voting family, So, that was much easier.It was pretty much split down liberal labor lines. You didn't have a lot of independence back in those days. So,. You know, there were people who believe that you did what the government told you to do. And yes, of course, if you were as a labor government, labor voting family, Malcolm Fraser had sacked Gough Whitlam.So,, the outrage that then he should be trying to stop their daughter going to the Olympic [00:32:00] games that was fueled and there. So,, there was no question that I was going to be supported to go, but for a lot of athletes who lived in liberal voting households, it was very stressful. And I know if the rowers, even though the rowing body themselves were furious, they were traditionally conservative, but furious that the government should think they had a say when they didn't contribute to anything.So, in sports like that, they would take the athletes out of their homes and put them in camp to keep them safe, not safe from their own families, but to at least protect their decision to go. Right. Wow. That's a lot to put on kids. That is interesting. I don't know how you had the ability. Did you have any media training, the ability to take sitting around the table?What do you think? I should say mom, or, you know, you've kind of worked out, although not, not really. Like I was, I didn't think that I sit a whole lot. I don't think I was all that,  bolshy.  I just, I like, I look at the goals today. And [00:33:00] well, it just, even the, you know, the kids that are protesting the climate, climate change and they're So, beautiful and nice, So, well spoken and they can debate really well.I don't think I was that sort of kid. I was, we didn't have that Sort of training. It was like that. Well, I think we should go because, you know, it's not really fair. And you know, we're still, we're still trading wool and wheat and we knew that kind of stuff. So, we were still trading with these people. So, why shouldn't the athletes go?And, you know, the sport is about bridging gaps. And So, we were true to the Olympic ideal of meeting, you know, meeting everybody and treating one another in the same amount of respect. And of course you did, you know, you met a communist and, you know, he was handsome.We were out in the world in a different way to others. So, that's amazing story. What an experience for you. Do you look back on that time and how do you reflect on that time today? Oh, just lucky. You know, I think particularly when I was writing boycott, I thought. How incredible [00:34:00] to be able to go through that experience and then be able to write about it., I mean, I felt that there was quite a lot of responsibility to tell the stories that nobody, a lot of people had not heard, you know, the women's hockey team that were there was the first time hockey was going to be, and women's at the Olympic games and they'd been promised by their association that if the AOS voted for them to go, then they would go and the AOF voted on Friday.That we'd go. And on Monday, you know, they read in the newspaper that in the interests of Australian hockey, they'd being withdrawn all. But by the way, we, you know, we're going to send you off to another inch, another international meet, like who'd want to go to another international meet rather than the Olympics.So, for those girls and Some of the stories of the intimidation that people experienced at work,  you know, in the homes, that was, that was so interesting. So, I felt, , very you're lucky. And of course, like back then, I can still. Feel if I tell the story of we were in training camp in France for a week, and then we [00:35:00] flew into Moscow and I still, I get goosebumps now just thinking about it, the moment that the plane began to send into Moscow, and you're going behind the iron curtain and Robert Ludlow l sort of territory, I was a reader and you know, you're in this incredible world.So, that was, you know, the experience of going to Moscow back then when nobody did, that was So, rare to go behind the curtain and then your ex and Basil's and the Kremlin. And it was, it was extraordinary. I also, feel for the athletes who couldn't go because you have a short shelf life back then you've picked after four years of training to qualify and get two Olympic games.You maybe don't have another game in you all your life for these kids. Some of them has been spent building up to that year as 1980. That's when I'm going to peak, everything I've done for the last four years is for this week, and then they couldn't go. Yeah. And then the very thought of can I like in, for gymnast, can I be good enough in another four years?[00:36:00] That's questionable. Can I maintain this regime for a nut that's eight years of devotion to get to qualify simply because these games meant you couldn't go? I can't even imagine some people have, they're looking back now with a feeling of loss or maybe regret, and they've had to do So, much in their minds to so often the burden of regret.That must be in them. Yeah. Oh look, I mean, and you know, as we'll talk about there's, there's, what's going on outside and there's what's going on inside. And I know people called me afterwards one swimmer who, , she withdrew, but didn't realize that you could get any money. So, it wasn't as though she was just felt as though she couldn't do it.And she, she chatted to me for the book. And then she called me when the book came Lisa, I thought it'd be okay. And she said, I picked it up. I went, I bought it in the bookshop. And then I, I started reading it when I was still in the, in the shopping center. And she said, I just had to stop and sit down and just cry.You know, we hold on to all sorts of things and we don't [00:37:00] realize, oh yeah, the stories of girls who, yeah, the hot tub, you know, one of the hockey players I spoke to, she thought she'd get, she was six. She wasn't much older than me thought she'd get to the next games. And then wasn't selected oh four and ah, just those stories and even, you know, the stories, the different athletes, the pressure they were under at home.And of course, there was no sports psychology then. So, it was this thing that people went through and you didn't talk about it? No, because. the sports bodies, certainly didn't want to think about it. Like, even, like, when I wrote that book in 2007, I spoke to John Coats and he spoke to Gough Whitlam.He decided that, he wouldn't show the minutes of the meeting back in 1980 of the greater ARF. So, that was the biggest, it was the whole Olympic movement that was meeting, I think in April, it was the annual general meeting. That's right. And they were going to vote then, and they didn't. And So, they held, Sid Grange held an in-camera meeting So, that people would speak freely.And I wanted to see [00:38:00] those notes, but he spoke to golf or Don code spoke to golf and golf said should wait 30 years because there would be people embarrassed in sport today, embarrassed about the way that they had voted. you would have been able to buy them. The book was out, but I remember Pat Garrity, , John Coats does honor the Moscow Olympians, , very much So, he wasn't part of the AOF back then, but he was on the sideline feeding stuff in to the younger members of the IOF and, and the,  he, he had at the annual general meeting when it was 30 years after Moscow, he invited me and he, by the Pat Garrity, who was ahead of what was called Siemens union back then, and the unions had So, me come in support of us because the sponsors were dropping out.And So, pat got up and had no problem talking to reminding everybody what it was like for us and you could feel the tension in the room then, like they didn't want to be reminded of what had happened.  [00:39:00] and look, that's, that's everywhere. Isn't it? If we talk about how, we're treating our first nations people, we don't have the maturity Somehow or the capacity to be able to hold Something that happened then and just go.Yeah, I've changed my mind and I; I wish that I hadn't been, I wish I'd known more. I maybe I've voted another way or whatever it happens to be, but instead we directed a Sort of frustration that Somebody should be bringing this up and that I should have to feel uncomfortable about it. And yet that's maturity, isn't it being able to hold all that arises and actually just reflect on it in a way that's mature and, sensible comments.Yes. And we only do that at the rate that we're prepared to do that we can't. Hasten maturity. We can't hasten adult hood, no matter what the number it is, how old we are. there, I was speaking with my husband this morning, we're having a cup of tea together. , and we're just sharing the things that we think is so common sense today.[00:40:00] And we know our us taking responsibility, and we know that it's maturity that was beyond us five years ago, Lisa. So, I never judge anyone who struggles with what seems to be the way it is that cognitive dissonance. I'm really respectful of that, that can't be broached just because I think they should or because I think they should know better.No, and that's right. I agree with you. Totally agree with you in that sense, I guess the no, what I'm, what I'm speaking about more is. Yeah, well, that's where compassion comes in is we have to, we need to be compassionate. Everybody has come from a different place. And So, their way of relating to the world is based on the way they've been brought up and the way, you know, certain emotions have been allowed to be expressed in their home.And so forcing it on somebody else you're right. Is and it's counterintuitive because people shut down even more. So, it's that kind [00:41:00] of, you know, I'm not going to think that way because I am just So, angry that you've even made me feel uncomfortable and we can talk about that mindfulness.And at the same time, you're right. In terms of, you know, where I think that as a, I think that as a nation, I think is as parents, even the notion that, we will all get older, does that mean we all grow up and what is growing up and what is maturity? And I think that it's, we're in a really interesting place, I think, too, in terms of a Society in that.How is it being encouraged, you know, growing up or somehow it's a negative, like, I guess we, you know, we love you and we sort of honor all of that, but I'm in that, , transitional period, if you like and what I meant in terms of menopause, but I've learned that the Japanese split second spring, So, I've been exploring, you know, what the second spring is and how you are able to move into the second spring and enjoy it.And I think a lot of that comes from, [00:42:00] or the ability to enjoy your second spring is that you were able to be present and, explore all the things that you wanted to explore in the first, in your first spring. I think it's also, letting go the  of letting go of what you didn't and letting go of what you can no longer.Yeah, absolutely. That's right. And that's a real skill. It is. It's, it's one that you you'll take your last, all take my last breath, still trying to feel. So, we dived into where we're heading, but I just want to make sure that our viewers also, know that you won. I think it was two gold medals at the Brisbane Commonwealth games.Congratulations. Thank you. Was the training there? A Software experience? I can't quite remember what you said about that. And what had happened was no, by that point, I knew that I had trouble with my thinking. , and So, I was but nobody talked about anxiety or anything like that. , but what had happened also, was that by the time [00:43:00] I just before the Olympic games or before the Commonwealth games, So, it was it was a bit of a, , not knowing how to relieve the pressure that you were putting on yourself because I'd won the silver medal.That first time I had only when I was eight years old and I saw those girls at the Olympic games in 1972, and I thought I want to do that. I'd made the calculation that 1980, I don't know that it had been decided it was in Moscow at that point. But 1980, I would be 16. I'd be in year 11. That was the games I could go to and get on with the rest of my life.But once the, still the medal happened in 78, everyone said to me, oh, you'll go one better in four years. So, suddenly that is extended. Oh yeah. I'll go before your time. And it's been So, well, I must say at the time, but anytime I want to travel Somewhere. Yeah. Comprehension of the magnificence of  a home.Yes. But I was sort of struggling cause I'd done my HSC that year before I'd taken time off as m wanted. So, I finished in the top 10% of the state did my age, that was up to the [00:44:00] Olympics and then went back into the pool, , to, you know, go one better at the Commonwealth games. , and So, even though I felt like I had all of the reasons that I should be motivated, you know, for the first time m would, and dad would be able to see me swim for Australia.And I was trying to go one better and win a gold medal and all these sorts of things. I just had this heavy weight on my shoulder, and I did not know how to relieve it. And then, Rocky. Rocky three was released in the cinema just about a month before the training, the trials. Now I've been something like the dog.I was really struggling, and I was like, watch the pool. That's what, I couldn't understand. Like once I was in the water, I was fine, but it was in between those sessions. I was torturing myself and then Rocky comes in and it's pretty specific to my moment. He used to team traveling and he'd he'd beaten Rocky. And of course, Mickey he's trying to sort of died in it, spoken in scenes of that movie. And Apollo creed [00:45:00] comes back and he's training Rocky. Cause he's pretty angry with the way that, you know, clubber Lang sort of behaving. But Rocky is just not there.And, and then, you know, his beautiful wife, Adrian sort of forces him to tell her what's wrong. And he says, I'm scared. You know, I, I I'm, I'm scared. And, and she says, look, you know, In the years ahead where it's just going to be you and me and you can handle losing, but you can't handle walking away. So, I'm in the cinema.I thought I would just be going into enjoy Rocky. And So, it tells the story of the champ coming back. And I think, you know, I was able to process things. I didn't even know how to say and I walked out of that cinema. And if I was, if you like in flow, like we didn't have a word for that, but suddenly I heard no doubt.Rocky had reminded, you know, my body and my mind that I knew how to win. And So, I was just on a roll from that moment. Everything became easier. My just my energy was back. And I came second at the trials in both 102 hundred. And it was, you know, it was kind of interpreted as like, oh [00:46:00] yes. So, then you know, that the successes have now moved into their rightful place.And that was a bit, but I had, I was babysitting So, badly that I knew I was just like on the way up. So,  it was really interesting. And So, you know, it all went So, beautifully. I won the a hundred, which I never expected to do, and that was just pure thrill and sort of just, oh, elation and surprise and all of the joy that comes with something So, unexpected, but the 200 was interesting because it was more.No, it was the rice that I was expected to win. So, on the other side of that, or once I'd won, I didn't have that same elation. It was always interested me. I seem to just be So, kind of like I'd done it. It was a sense of satisfaction because later on I learned that contentment and satisfaction, it's almost a neutral feeling.It's not something that we try to strive for in many ways. And So, I sort of was a bit surprised by that, but nevertheless, I've won my gold medals and later on, I would learn through mindfulness and compassion. Oh, right. That's contentment. And it's okay to just be in that [00:47:00] place. It just means the job well done.So, did you question yourself, not feeling more excited at winning? Oh, that was not, I mean, it was it, I was, I still remember being on the, you know, at the end and m and dad had jumping up and down and I was like, try, please skip that. I was like, nah, it's nothing there. It's more just, yeah. I did it. No, I did it after all those four years, I hung in and I got there and it was done.It was, it was still, I would say happy. And, and content, I think, I think she's right about in glide and I love this is we tend to discount neutral moments. We discount the neutral emotions and I often have people a lot Saturday. So, you excited. Cause there's lots of good things that you cited. I don't want to disappoint you, but that's not the word.It feels we're heading there, and it'll be what it'll be. But I've, I really have tried to knock off the extremes because I don't want this in my life. I want more this, about the externals. It, [00:48:00] it seems exhausting to live on a rollercoaster of extreme emotions. So, I do get what you're saying. I'm just surprised you had it So, young, a feeling of.Yes. Oh, I think, well, I was scared of it because it doesn't feel right. Does it? It should be. I should have been like, I wasn't a hundred, there was that. And yet it wasn't. So, he just was like, no, that's not there. So, just did and what it is. And then I felt the same way. I remember again, when I was pregnant with my Son.I felt like it was because I was 38. It had happened in the first month. My best friend had been given no time to live. And I was like, when you're waiting for lease, they get pregnant or, you know, try. And we thought it'd be months because I was So, old, not old but old for having a child. And and yeah, that feeling of, , when it actually happened.And I remember driving along South darling straight after, I'd gone to tell mom and dad, and it was this beautiful pink sky. It was sort of June. and it was Twilight. And I remember thinking, wow, how have I managed this? Like, I, I want to go to the Olympics. I got there. I wanted to write a book. I got there.I [00:49:00] wanted to be a sports reporter. I did that. I always actually didn't manage to be pregnant and have a baby, which has not been on my bucket list at all. You know? And, and there was that feeling again. And I mean, I must say I was a bit scared. Like, what if I don't want to do anything else I'm now that I don't have to fear it.And I had a similar feeling just Mother's Day, you know, just gone past. I was actually by myself. My son was in Canberra. He's studying down there. My husband was with his mum She'd had an operation and I was just with my sister. We were up at Lennox head and my son, husband was only 30 minutes away, but I had this beautiful morning of, I work early and I thought, oh, I'll just go to the cafe and read this book that I was really enjoying.And I was sitting there in, you know, in the cafe. There's lots of young pair of parents with young kids and I was feeling So, like, my job is done. I've raised a beautiful boy. Yeah. Nope. Everyone keeps telling me, you know, how terrific he is. I think he is obviously, you know, his girlfriend's best friend said to me, I couldn't ask for a nicer guy for my gut, my best [00:50:00] friend.So, you know, you've done the right thing by the girls, which is really important, I think when you're raising boys. , and it was that feeling of, yeah, you can, I was not scared of it at all. It was just that really still feeling of job. Well done. You guys good on you? Yeah. So, I think that learning not to be scared of it, as you say, well, I think it's worth sharing the viewers now, why that's such a big deal in your life to get to that point, because glide, whilst it talks about the highs and the lows of the external world, I think the conversation is worth having with you now is there is a very different narrative going on within you during this time.And maybe I'm putting words in your mouth that I just get the sense that you've been wrestling with. You. All through that journey. So, you are not just competing in a race, you were competing with yourself with how you suppressed emotions with how you denied yourself, the painful thoughts that I can't even imagine how you go out from [00:51:00] the blocks planning to win when this isn't working for you.And for a while there, your mind did not work for your success for your ultimate supportive view. No, no. And I didn't know that until I know that you are sort of conscious of it, but I didn't know what to do with it. I knew once Rocky had changed my thinking, like I told journalists after I won the, those gold medals that., but I had trouble with my thinking and Rocky changed it. So, I knew that I also, knew before the Olympic final, which is, you know, I've spoken about it before, but sitting in that reading room, I heard the thought, I don't know how to do this. And I was, So, I was like, of course you do. And I'm wrestled, I thought myself on my own and kind of created, I mean, I guess you might call it a panic attack now.I don't know, but, and was able to steady myself and kind of get myself out there in a way in a way that was effective until I got into that, into the, onto the blocks. But yeah, So, I had this one, I called trouble with my thinking. And then, So, the book before glide was a teenage novel set [00:52:00] in the circus.I'd never written fantasy before, but I thought I'd have a go. And I just, again, took myself down into spirals of doubt and I knew all the time. I think it's one of the fortunate things I suppose in that I knew that it was internal. I knew it wasn't Something, there was nobody else to blame with somebody, something that I was doing.And So, I started, I signed up to a coaching course at first, a live coaching course because I thought, well, there's lots more modern techniques now that obviously what was happening back then, wasn't modern. And  that was great, except that it was another goal setting force. And I didn't need to set another goal.I wanted to be content with the goals that I kicked if you like because I had to you know, as a, a, to go and do some coaching as well, in order to practice, you know, to get my cert four, I actually realized that I wasn't the only one who had that, what I called miss never enough inside my head.So, I had these two competing voices. If you like, I have this Smiths or I'll have a go at that. You know, like that seems interesting. I'd like to write a book or I'd like to be an interviewer. [00:53:00] And So, I've got her, she's always there. And then I had this miss never enough. And. And I had that, that, that first start that we described of the Dee Why ladies sort of encouragement, I didn't, I'd forgotten about that.Yeah. What I, what I, I thought that all my success had been a result of that. My coach sports psychology back then was. Mottos across the top of the Blackboard. And my favorite motto was when the going gets tough, the tough get going. I was introduced to it at 13, at 14, I was swimming for Australia and like, right.That's it, that's it. But as you know, as I've said, by that third week at training camp in Hawaii, I didn't know how to. Where's the motto that said I've been tough enough. And So, more often than not, I was driving myself into the pool into sort of exhaustion and getting sick. , and by the time I had Terry gaffer, Paul, as a coach later on in the lead up to those Commonwealth early Olympics and Commonwealth games, he would tell people that, you know, you got to be careful of it cause she'll drive herself to illness.And now we know that that never enough story. It's just called the language of scarcity. You [00:54:00] know, we all have it from the moment we wake up in the morning, didn't get enough sleep. Don't have enough time. Don't have enough money, don't have enough respect, don't have enough willpower, don't have enough, nobody, you know, fill in the blanks., and So, that's the language of scarcity and why we're doing that. We're just draining, you know, the parts of our brain of the world where we're draining the sort of the drive section of the brain, but we're just feeding them the stress hormones all the time. Cause. You know, your, your, your podcast is called perspective.Like the capacity to stand back and say, hold on a minute. There's another way of looking at it. This is a really a powerful skill. So, I did the course. And then through that coaching course, I was introduced to, I did a webinar. It was non-compulsory on something called mindfulness based stress reduction.Yeah and I still didn't get it at the end of the class. I was like, I didn't see why I have to sit still. I have to sit down and meditate. I don't get it. So, I suppose it's worth mentioning here. Up until then you had replaced X. You used exercise as a way not to be with [00:55:00] yourself. And I wonder how many people listening to this insert your choice of distraction here.So, you don't have to be yourself. And you also, mentioned in glide the study where, how long can a participant sit in a room alone? And they're told there's a buzzer there. They can press that will give themselves an electric shock. And some people didn't even last five minutes, they'd rather give themselves pain.Then sit quietly with their thoughts. Sorry. An incredible university of Virginia. I think it was always blows me away. And the people, most people was, majority of people would rather. Give themselves the stimulus of pain, the distraction from just being still with their thoughts. And there's the other one too.So, that, that I thought the other one that was interesting was I think it was the Harvard study. It was around 2010 now, So, it's quite old, but it was you know, many, many people with, uh, an app on their phone. So, every So, often would pop up and say are you, is your mind on task or is it  [00:56:00] are you distracted?And they were, I think it was 48% of the time we were distracted, and the distraction was not helping us be happier. Because, yes, you might be thinking about that next holiday Inn. I don't know, Somewhere beyond our shores one, you know, in one day. , but then there may be all, well, it's not fair. Why I'd love to go and maybe some fears about the coronavirus or whatever it happens to be, you know, imagination kicks in.So, yeah, So, that's, So, I wrote down the name, John Kabat-Zinn and, , and suddenly, , Uh, So, I went to that's right after the website, I, a webinar, I went to audible and I looked up all the books a bit, maybe this John Kabat-Zinn has a book. And of course, he was the grandfather of mindfulness. So, he had millions of books that lots of them were, were abridged.So, I chose the only unabridged book and started listening to it. When I went walking the next morning, he had vintages the adventures of mine finished. It's no longer available on audible by the way. Cause I wanted to read it on audible before [00:57:00] our chat. Okay. I think, yeah, I think it's on sounds true now.Cause then I went to find him. Yeah. Now you tell me, well, it was interesting cause I went looking for it. Eventually. I actually emailed Don Kevin's in LA called the center for mindfulness to get his approval. So, it was tricky to find and, they were surprised actually. I think that it was on audible at the time.Anyway, the story was that. I didn't go walking the next morning, chapter three starts with a basic breath meditation. I'm supposed to be sitting down, I'm walking saying, thanks So, much, but I can, I can just feel my breath and walk. And, and he says, okay, So, we're going to feel the breath. And so, you know where I'm feeling the breath and he said, now you might be thinking this isn't too bad.You know, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling my breath. And I was like, yeah, that's, that's what I'm thinking. And he said, well, that's great, except that's a thought, and we're not trying to think. We're just trying to feel the breath. So, let's just let go of the thought and come back to the simple feeling of the breath.And I was like, what did he say? I can [00:58:00] let go of the thought by coming back to the breath. And I, I mean, I was on the corner of Oxford street and Moorpark road up the top. I almost did circles. Like, why didn't Somebody tell you this? 30 years ago, when I was sitting in the ready room before the Olympic final, that I could let go of a thought, by coming back to the feeling of the breath, it's hard for sorry for the mind to do that, but it is possible.It is tough to do, but it's hard. It would have been hard for you in that you trained yourself to disconnect from your body. Your body was just a weapon or a tool to get you down the pool. I didn't read up. I think our veggie greatly, you'd never learnt or experienced being in your body. You were here knowing what you had to do, inverted commerce, what you felt you had to do, but at no time had you taught yourself or had the experience of, of being exposed to this idea, all of me is here.Not just the bit. That's got to think my way through this panic. And I bet I hope I don't [00:59:00] let it. That is an all of you. This just became a tool. I think my feeling, as I read at least was everything below here was simply a weapon or a tool to get the job done. The next job, the next job, the next job, even exercise was treated that way.And So, to just have that ability, did you do it successfully in that first time? I can't imagine you did that. You actually sat and felt your body. It would have been an alien surreal experience to even know that was a, that was a conversation you could have with yourself. , certainly I think that one of the, definitely privileged to this, although I, I think one of the things that I found interesting about practicing mindfulness is that I could.I did not know that I could learn to regulate an emotion and exactly the way that I had regulated myself through, through a race. So, I trained my body to remain a quant is or to maintain equanimity. And when I, you know, it was screaming with pain or my thoughts were like, I don't want to, you know, I, I [01:00:00] want to give up on, not that I ever thought about, but you know, toward the end of a race, when it's really, tough, I trained myself to stay, keep stroke long, keep your breath long.You know, you're checking, checking, checking, checking time. And I didn't know that I could do that with an emotion. The moment that I was feeling anxious, as you say the trouble with my thinking, I didn't have trouble with my thinking. What I have is what we all have is a habitual way of thinking that gets us.We learned when we were little, but this protected us somehow the way that we behaved, protected us and kept us loved, or kept us in contact with those that we needed. And what I didn't realize was that. It was just a habit to actually stop myself from feeling as you say, but if we can drop into the body, when the going gets tough, the tough get going, I've now reframed, you know, in terms of when the going gets tough, the tough drop into the body and feel what they're feeling, you know, and it comes to an emotion, right?And So, if I'm feeling really worked up, then it's had there's something going on in the body. So, can I drop into the body and just feel what's going on? So, [01:01:00] you're absolutely right. I had no connection. It wasn't the breath meditation that I had such trouble with. But when the body scan, he had a, he had

Carol Cooke is a Canadian-born Australian cyclist, swimmer and rower. She was part of the Canadian national swimming team, hoping to be selected for the 1980 Moscow Olympics before her country boycotted the games. She moved to Australia in 1994, was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1998 and basically told her life was over, she'd soon be in a wheelchair and to “get her affairs in order” (she was literally told this). She decided to choose her own path and destiny, took up rowing and narrowly missed out on being part of the 2008 Beijing Paralympics. She then switched to cycling, where she won a gold medal at the 2012 London Paralympics and two gold medals at the 2016 Rio de Janeiro Paralympics. This is one of those perspective-providing chats with a solution-focused, zero self-pity, let's control our controllables and get-shit-done (type) people. Love her. Enjoy.

Launched on 14 April 2021, exactly 100 days ahead of the Tokyo Olympic Games, Hockey Te Charcha is a special podcast series initiated by Hockey India - the governing body for Hockey in India - to provide the fans of hockey a unique experience to relive the glorious moments of Indian hockey by listening to the iconic players who have brought pride and honour to the nation. Following the success of the first episode where Hockey Te Charcha engaged in a candid conversation with legendary centre forward Harbinder Singh who narrated India's success at the 1964 Tokyo Olympic Games, Hockey India invited V Baskaran for a free-wheeling chat in the second episode of Hockey Te Charcha. Listen to V Baskaran who led India to the coveted Gold Medal in the 1980 Moscow Olympic Games, reminisce the days leading up to the Moscow Olympics. He talks fondly of his young brigade, the training camp in Bengaluru and the team's frequent visits to the iconic Tiffanys restaurant -- an exercise he believes helped in team bonding. This team's exploits in Moscow created a new record for India as the country won it's 8th Olympic Gold medal in hockey, highest any country has ever achieved. You can follow us and leave us your feedback on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter @hockeyindia. Our entire podcast is available on hockeyindia.org.

"And I had so over prepared for the high school state meet that I ended up making the Olympic team." An interview with Glenn Mills, making the 1980 Olympic team and now runs the wildly successful platform, GoSwim.TV. Website: https://www.EvolutionOfLeaders.com/ YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChXe7AGqkLRzpvm1yblIvjw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/evolution-of-leaders/id1533928112 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LbmTVDvZdw4aaKsrciT4U Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/darwinevolutionofleaders Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/darwinli25/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darwin-li-5697581/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DarwinLi6 I've also been accepted for a show on the membership platform "Millionaireflix". See exclusive content including Gavin's insights on how to get into the zone plus many courses on success & business! https://millionaireflix.com/affiliate/darwin Check out Glenn @ www.goswim.tv! --------------------- 4:08 - Glenn talks about how the death of his brother to cancer lit a fire inside of him to train hard and win the high school state championship in his brothers' honor. "I remember, Kyle died on a Thursday, and on Friday, I went to practice, I always swam in lane five, and the pool went from lane one to lane six, the slowest to the fastest. And at this point, I was in lane five. I showed up on Friday. And of course, everybody knew and everybody was quiet. And I stood behind lane six, nobody said anything. And so I just went right to the fastest lane in the pool. And from that day forward, I was committed to accomplishing that goal to honor that, that goal that I had set out for my brother." "I would go to the pool, and I would try to hurt myself as much as I could physically. Not in a bad way. Not not, it was it was I would train as hard as I could to induce as much pain because the more physical pain that I that I had, the less emotional pain that I had." "And I had so over prepared for the high school state meet that I ended up making the Olympic team. " "There's so much more inside of everyone that we don't, we don't know who we can be, until we've made the decision that we were going to put everything into this task for this goal. And if you completely 100% commit yourself to something, all aspects of your life to that specific goal, you're probably going to do better than then you thought you could." 9:04 - Glenn talks about what separates the truly elite from others. "There's a consistent and focus towards the end result. And each day is a piece of the process, that there's a patience about the process and a consistency to the process." "... If that's what your goal is, you have to have this all consuming." "it is the daily grind, as they say, and you have to be committed to the process. " "Jesse Owens said and reminded us all. It's not the Olympics that make the Olympian it's the preparation. So everything is about the preparation. It's not about that day. It's about the years before, and that's really great athletes understand." 11:56 - Glenn talks about the difference between process and outcome. He talks about the process of creating excellent swimmers and athletes. 14:21 - Glenn has coached numerous outstanding athletes, including Jeff Rouse and Aaron Peirsol, both world record holders who swim differently. What are the commonalities amongst greatness? 17:00 - The importance of self-awareness and how he helps others to learn effectively. 18:09 - Glenn has a fascinating approach to coaching top Olympians - the Power of Asking Questions. 19:12 - Coaching Allison Schmitt and Michael Phelps, and how he approaches giving advice to such legendary athletes. "I said, there is no way I'm telling you anything about your stroke. Because I would be the guy that messed her up by giving her advice" Allison's response: "No one has ever not given me advice before." 22:22 - Filming MICHAEL PHELPS! "And I would say, you know, this is what I noticed. They weren't asking me because oh, here's this, you know, this great guy, they they sought, they sought anything from anyone that could potentially make him a little faster. They were so open to suggestions, because they might have overlooked something that somebody else might see. And so it was it was one of the most fascinating things that he was the greatest swimmer in the history of the world, asking, What do you see? " 25:19 - Glenn talks about Goswim.tv and the amazing developments they're achieving. 29:32 - The disappointment of the US boycotting the Moscow Olympics. 37:01 - Excellence, values and focus - "There's integrity of work ... there's an honesty in work" 39:30 - Selected Pain vs. Forced Pain. 41:08 - "You have to stop feeling sorry for yourself at some point and just get back to work." 42:11 - How Glenn looks at helping athletes gain self-awareness. 46:15 - The amazing work at GoSwim.tv and the endless pool.

In honor of Women’s History Month, host Rekaya Gibson highlights Luci Collins (Cummings), an American gymnast from Inglewood, California. In 1980, She became the first Black gymnast to qualify for the United States women’s Olympic team. That same year, the U.S. boycotted the Moscow Olympics. Collins, an African American of Creole heritage, did not get to compete. #KeepItSporty Sources: Ford, B.D. and Roenigk, A. (2020, July 18). How Dianne Durham, Bela Karolyi's first national champion, paved the way for Black gymnasts. ESPN. https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/29469312/how-dianne-durham-bela-karolyi-first-national-champion-paved-way-black-gymnasts Hersh, P. (2016, February 29). Simone Biles and gabby Douglas are latest and greatest heroes in a storied history of African American gymnasts. TeamUSA.org. https://www.teamusa.org/News/2016/February/29/Simone-Biles-And-Gabby-Douglas-Are-Latest-In-A-Storied-History-Of-African-American-Gymnasts Wikipedia contributors. (2021, February 12). Luci Collins. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luci_Collins&oldid=1006329970 Podcast Items of Interest: Buy Us a Coffee - https://ko-fi.com/blackgirlstalksports Become a Monthly Patron - https://www.patreon.com/BlackGirlsTalkSports Join Us on Facebook (Women only) - https://www.facebook.com/groups/BlackGirlsTalkSports/ Download BGTS Android App in the Google Play Store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blackgirlstalksports.android.girls Podcast Sponsored by Cuisine Noir Magazine - www.cuisinenoirmag.com

Hall of Fame swimmer and 3-time Olympic gold medalist Rowdy Gaines joins the show! We talk about how COVID is affecting student-athletes who have trained their entire lives to play a sport only to now be sidelined and/or lose out on scholarships? We address the financial, professional and mental health repercussions, as well as the long-term effects on sports in general. We also get into the delayed 2020 (now 2021) Olympics and what they might look like next year, with reference to him being unable to compete in the 1980 Moscow Olympics because of the U.S. boycott. Additionally, Rowdy is head of community engagement for USA Swimming, and talks about the Aquatics Coalition they've launched to advocate for pools to remain open during the pandemic, arguing they are safe to use, and a necessary resource for swimming lessons and rehabilitation, particularly in low-income areas.

This week on The Roe Show I interview Freestyle Equestrian Athlete, Coach & Olympian, Cindy Ishoy. We discuss her philosophy on coaching, training young horses for competition, how to reach excellence and how she changed the freestyle dressage mentality with her revolutionary routine in a very traditional sport, when she included the pop song, Candy Shop, by 50 Cent in her freestyle. We discuss more traditional sports like gymnastics and equestrian, which both came from a military background, and what the future might hold for them both. We also discuss the relationship between a horse and rider and how they have to work together as a team. Cindy began her riding career in Germany as a young child, but it didn't take her long to excel at the sport. As a teenager, she started turning in outstanding results for Canada. She was a member of the gold medal team and placed fourth individually at the 1971 Pan Am Games in Cali, Colombia. A year later she was the youngest equestrian competitor at the Munich Olympics, at age 20. In 1979, she became the first Canadian to win an international dressage Grand Prix event in England. In 1980 Cindy was selected to the Canadian team for the Moscow Olympics but because the Games were boycotted, she completed in alternate Games in the Netherlands. She was seventh in the 1986 World Championships and second at the 1988 World Cup in the Netherlands. A member of the bronze medal winning Canadian dressage TEAM at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, she was also fourth individually. Cindy also competed in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Her outstanding career included one more Olympic selection, in Athens, in 2004. As if her career wasn't brilliant enough, she might have achieved even more, because in 1989, her great Hanoverian partner ‘Dynasty' died from colic at the age of 12, still in the peak of his career. But she would have two other very good horses. ‘Dakar' went to Barcelona in 1992 and ‘Proton' at Athens in 2004. For more information on Cindy Ishoy's Training: https://dressagetoday.com/theory/systematic-dressage-training-with-cindy-ishoy-30539 Subscribe On iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-roe-show-freestyle-action-sports-podcast/id1517644052 Contact us for more information about our Freestyle Events: https://www.freestyletrampolineassociation.com/ See our Online Educational Programs for all Acrobatic Training: https://www.freestyletrampolineassociation.com/online-training   #TheRoeShow #GRTcertified #GRTnetwork #GRT

Matt Hill Joined Michael Felgate to discuss his favourite race calls here in Australia, and abroad. This week we re-live the 4 X 400m Relay at the 1980 Moscow Olympics and why this race has a special calling connection to racing

Madeline is a gold and silver Olympic Medalist in track. She competed in three Olympics, 1968,1972,1976 and if not for the boycott of the Moscow Olympics in 1980, it would have been four. She set a world record in 1968 in the 800 meter race that stood for 15 years and  has been inducted into the National and Olympian Halls of Fame. In those years of running, amazing transformation took place in her life; they are incredible stories.

Wild Running's Ceri Rees interviews his all time childhood hero! True athletics legend Brendan Foster gives his first ever podcast interview, to Wild Running about lock down, the Moscow Olympics, never going to the gym, grass roots athletics, Alf Tupper, advice for young athletes, going DIY on his running shoes and this year’s Great North Run (will it or won’t it?). cerirees@wildrunning.co.uk

It was an absolute honour/thrill this week to interview a man I’ve looked up to my whole running career! Chris Wardlaw/‘Rab’ is a runner and coach who’s impact/influence on the Australian distance running scene over the past 40 years is near on unparalleled. Chris came 12th in the 1976 Montreal Olympic 10,000m and competed in the marathon at the 1980 Moscow Olympics. He was the career coach/mentor to many, including Steve Monaghetti, Kerryn McCann and Craig Mottram(for the last few years of his career). He was the head coach of the Australian Track and Field team at the 2000 Olympics. In this interview Rab shares so much wisdom and great stories about his career and those that he has coached or been involved with. He talks about the the origins of ‘the pack’, ‘quaters’, ‘Mona fartlek’, the ‘Wardlaw System’ and some of his greatest inspirations! For any keen runner, it’s a must listen!

G'day Podcasts - conversations with ordinary and extraordinary Australians and New Zealanders will be an ongoing series of podcasts, sharing experiences and stories from people of all walks of life who are Australian or New Zealanders. Whilst we are neighbors, these two great countries are very different from each other.  Our landscape, size, cultures, lifestyles vary considerably, and this series will be based around our uniqueness, our ordinariness, interesting people, sharing ours and their lives with you. Rick Mitchell is an Australian Olympic medalist in Track and Field, winning the Silver medal in the 400m at the 1980 Moscow Olympics. In 2020 it is the 40 year anniversary of Rick winning his silver medal, and in this episode, he takes us back to his era of elite sportsmanship and talks about how he became a runner, his heroes, his foes, his philosophy on sports and what made him a champion.  His record in Australia is a remarkable feat to this day.https://www.athletics.com.au/hall-of-fame-directory/richard-rick-mitchell/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Mitchell

Margot Wells was a successful sprinter and Scottish 100/100 hurdles champion. She is based in Guildford, Surrey where she is an elite sprint and fitness coach. Wells started her coaching career by helping her husband Allan Wells win an Olympic Gold and silver medal in the 100m and 200m respectively at the Moscow Olympics in 1980. In the run-up to the Games, she protected him from hate mail generated by the then Soviet Union's involvement in Afghanistan. In the early 1990s, she coached rugby players for the club London Scottish. She then took a break from coaching to raise the couple's two children, before returning to coach London Wasps players Danny Cipriani and Thom Evans. She currently coaches a crop of England's top rugby and hockey players as well as up and coming athletes. Recently she has launched a new company, Wellfast - Margot Wells School of Speed, that is designed to teach aspiring coaches of all levels the intricacies of making a student faster. Margot has been working on creating a functionality system that allows the body to perform better at all sports. It helps movement; balance; acceleration; speed and reduces the amount of soft tissue injuries. - Her current squad of rugby players, hockey players and equestrian riders all benefit from using this system. Her stable of sportsmen and women includes: Danny Cipriani - England and Wasps Fly Half Andy Gomarsall - England and Harlequins Scrum Half James Haskell - England and Wasps Back Row Paul Sackey - England and Wasps Winger Tom Voyce - England and Wasps Winger Dom Waldouck - England Saxons and Wasps Centre Mike Brown - England and Harlequins Full Back Her website is: https://wellfast.co.uk/ If you want to Get in Shape, Get Healthy and Get Happy, call us for a confidential consultation - Stephanie Webster Urban Health Method. 07500 356356 (WhatsApp) hello@urbanhealthmethod.com urbanhealthmethod.com CLICK HERE TO DONATE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR PODCAST:https://www.patreon.com/urbanhealth

OLYMPIC coach MARGOT WELLS realigns our thinking around movement and injury rehab. Interviewed by Stephanie Webster Urban Health Method. Margot Wells was a successful sprinter and Scottish 100/100 hurdles champion. She is based in Guildford, Surrey where she is an elite sprint and fitness coach. Wells started her coaching career by helping her husband Allan Wells win an Olympic Gold and silver medal in the 100m and 200m respectively at the Moscow Olympics in 1980. In the run-up to the Games, she protected him from hate mail generated by the then Soviet Union's involvement in Afghanistan. In the early 1990s, she coached rugby players for the club London Scottish. She then took a break from coaching to raise the couple's two children, before returning to coach London Wasps players Danny Cipriani and Thom Evans. She currently coaches a crop of England's top rugby and hockey players as well as up and coming athletes. Recently she has launched a new company, Wellfast - Margot Wells School of Speed, that is designed to teach aspiring coaches of all levels the intricacies of making a student faster. Margot has been working on creating a functionality system that allows the body to perform better at all sports. It helps movement; balance; acceleration; speed and reduces the amount of soft tissue injuries. - Her current squad of rugby players, hockey players and equestrian riders all benefit from using this system. Her stable of sportsmen and women includes: Danny Cipriani - England and Wasps Fly Half Andy Gomarsall - England and Harlequins Scrum Half James Haskell - England and Wasps Back Row Paul Sackey - England and Wasps Winger Tom Voyce - England and Wasps Winger Dom Waldouck - England Saxons and Wasps Centre Mike Brown - England and Harlequins Full Back Her website is: https://wellfast.co.uk/ If you want to Get in Shape, Get Healthy and Get Happy, call us for a confidential consultation - Stephanie Webster Urban Health Method. 07500 356356 (WhatsApp) hello@urbanhealthmethod.com urbanhealthmethod.com CLICK HERE TO DONATE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR PODCAST:https://www.patreon.com/urbanhealth

Hear the pole-vaulter who offended the entire Soviet Union at the 1980 Olympics in Moscow explain himself. Władysław Kozakiewicz, a pole-vaulter who dominated the event for over a decade, didn’t have much luck during the 1976 Olympic Games in Montreal. Despite being a strong favourite, he failed to medal, after his foot broke while taking a warm-up jump. Four years later, he was healthy and ready to make up for the Montreal upset – but there were other adversities to overcome. The Moscow Olympics was overshadowed by a massive boycott – many Western sports powers had pulled out in condemnation of the Soviet-Afghan War. The overall atmosphere was gruesome and to make things even worse, the judges were doing their best to make sure athletes from the Soviet Union won. And then there was the crowd.... easily 70 000 people, booing, jeering and whistling at every non-soviet athlete. Kozakiewicz felt strong and challenged them in the most provocative way possible. If you want to know how it ended, and how far the repercussions of his daring behaviour went, listen to the ARM, the very first episode of Season II of Stories From The Eastern West! This episode is a Stories From The Eastern West co-production with WBUR’s Only a Game. Check out their show and episode archive at http://www.wbur.org/onlyagame. Like our show? Sign up for our newsletter! Time Stamps [00:54] The Black Power protest [02:09] Historical Background [03:10] The strange atmosphere of the Moscow Olympics [05:57] How the competition rolled out [08:37] The arm! [11:24] The aftermath of Kozakiewicz's controversial behaviour [13:52] Kozakiewicz's struggles with the Polish communist authorities [16:30] Thanks & credits Further Reading Explaining Kozakiewicz’s Gesture: Poland’s Most Scandalous Arm / on Culture.pl Nie mówcie mi jak mam żyć by Władysław Kozakiewicz / book (in Polish only) on Amazon Władysław Kozakiewicz - Facts and Figures / on Wikipedia The 1980 Moscow Olympics Boycott / on Wilsoncenter.org Why Smith and Carlos Raised Their Fists / from the New York Times U.S. National Anthem Protests / on Wikipedia Further Watching Władysław Kozakiewicz’s winning jump / on YouTube.com Black Power Salute / Mini documentary / on YouTube.com Renaud Lavillenie sets the current World Record  / on YouTube.com Thanks Władysław Kozakiewicz / for sharing his story with us and giving us a ride from the train station to his home on the edge of a forest. Władysław Kozakiewicz is a legendary pole-vaulter, an Olympic gold medallist and a world record breaker. Joachim Ciecierski / for becoming Władysław Kozakiewicz’s English voice. Joachim is a long-time journalist at Radio Poland, Poland’s official international broadcasting station. DJ Spike & Break Da Funk / for allowing us to use Masztalesz, the funky tune playing during the credits and throughout the bonus episode. Credits Karen Given (Only a Game): editing Wojciech Oleksiak: script, scoring, sound design, mixing Nitzan Reisner: host, one-person pep rally Adam Zulawski: host, editing

Here is Rick's Interview with Famed, Verne Lundquist as talk about some of the greatest moments in sports history from the man who was there and they chat about his new book! Enjoy! ABOUT VERNE LUNDQUIST AND HIS BOOK PLAY BY PLAY: CALLING THE WILDEST GAMES IN SPORTS Verne Lundquist, or "Uncle Verne" as many know him, has one of the most recognizable voices, and faces, in sports. After more than 50 years in broadcasting,PLAY BY PLAY: Calling the Wildest Games in Sports - From SEC Football to College Basketball, The Masters, and More (William Morrow; Hardcover; October 9, 2018; $ 28.99) marks the first time "Uncle Verne" turns the spotlight on himself-recalling some of the most important, unbelievable, and even outlandish moments he's seen happen on the field, in the clubhouse, or otherwise over the last five decades. Written with Verne's familiar humor and flair, PLAY BY PLAY begins with the early days of his career as a sports anchor in Austin in 1963. He soon moved to Dallas, where he continued as an anchor and play-by-play announcer for the Cowboys in the 1970s, when the team dominated the game of football. Over the next fifty years, he covered innumerable sporting events for a variety of networks, most notably CBS Sports, which he first joined in 1982. He moved to Turner Sports in 1995 for three years, while continuing to cover figure skating for CBS. He returned to the network in 1998, and two years later he began his tenure as the beloved play-by-play announcer for SEC on CBS. Over the course of his time with CBS, he covered more than twenty different sports for the network. Verne has always seen himself as a teller of stories, and he doesn't hold anything back in PLAY BY PLAY as he takes readers behind the scenes of some of the most iconic moments in sports history, including: . Jack Nicklaus' legendary one-stroke victory at the 1986 Masters Tournament . Christian Laettner's buzzer beater in the 1992 NCAA Tournament, which sent the Blue Devils to the Final Four . Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan at the 1994 Winter Olympics . Tiger Woods' astounding comeback at the 2005 Masters Tournament . The "Year of the Upset" - the historic year when an unranked or lower-ranked team defeated a favorite 59 times over the course of the 2007 regular season, including teams lead by Tim Tebow (University of Florida) and Matt Flynn (LSU) . Tennessee-Alabama in 2009, when Terrence "Mount" Cody blocked two crucial kicks to bring home another Crimson Tide victory . The Kick Six Iron Bowl of 2013, where the Auburn Tigers delivered a shocking blow to the heavily favored University of Alabama Verne also remembers the friendships he's made along the way, and shares with readers personal, surprising anecdotes about his life both inside and outside the booth, including: . His lifelong fascination with radio, and the call that brought him into a radio booth for the first time (surprise: it had nothing to do with sports) . The small, but important, role he played as a KTBC-AM (Austin) employee on November 22, 1963 - the day JFK Jr. was assassinated . Why he initially viewed the SEC play-by-play gig as a demotion, and what made him realize it was actually the most significant assignment of his career . The conversations he had with Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach about his recurring concussions and how they might impact him down the line . The legendary broadcaster who convinced Verne to host Bowling for Dollars - and why . Why he disagreed with President Carter's decision to pull the U.S. out of the 1980 Moscow Olympics . His unlikely love affair with figure skating, and his longtime friendship with Scott Hamilton . Why he agrees with many that University of Alabama's Nick Saban is the greatest college football coach to date . The time he found himself in the middle of a near altercation between Bob Knight and Tommy Heinsohn . Happy Gilmore - how he came to be part of the famous film, and how he learned he was second choice to Pat Summerall . Why he feels so passionately about the Army-Navy game, and why he chose it as his final college football broadcast ABOUT VERNE LUNDQUIST VERNE LUNDQUIST began his remarkable broadcasting career at KTBC-TV in Austin, TX. He joined CBS Sports in 1982, and during his tenure he covered more than twenty sports for the network. Lundquist was inducted into the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association Hall of Fame in 2007, and in May 2016 he was honored with the Lifetime Achievement Award for Sports at the 37th annual Sports Emmy Awards. He lives in Steamboat Springs, CO. "Verne Lundquist's legendary voice echoes throughout the annals of sports broadcasting. He is a timeless storyteller with a unique ability to make fans feel like they are sitting right next to him watching history, while at the same time almost not realizing he is even there. Verne is a friend, a Hall of Famer, and the soundtrack to so many unforgettable memories in sports history." -NICK SABAN, Head Football Coach, University of Alabama Crimson Tide "Uncle Verne made Saturdays better, he made the SEC better, and he made college football better. Thank you for sharing your story with sports fans everywhere. Readers are sure to be entertained by your powerful storytelling." -TIM TEBOW, Heisman Trophy Winner and New York Times bestselling author "I have never known any other broadcaster who touches my dear friend Verne Lundquist's heart, mind, and talent. My many years of sitting to his right were the very best in my television career. Class, integrity, knowledge, and experience put him in a class by himself. A storyteller telling his story. Doesn't get much better than that!" -SCOTT HAMILTON, 1984 Olympics Men's Figure Skating Gold Medalist​

IAAF is putting its history on display. IAAF Heritage, a branch of the federation tasked with bringing the story of sport to the public, is currently showcasing the “World / Continental Cup - 1977 to 2018” exhibition in Ostrava, Czech Republic.  The exhibition comes ahead of the IAAF Continental Cup in September and will run through the duration of the event. Items from the Ancient Olympic Games to the present are included in the project, including artifacts from the Continental Cup, which began in 1977.  IAAF councilmember Sylvia Barlag is in Ostrava representing Sebastian Coe this week. Barlag is a physicist and has been a councilmember for IAAF since 2011. She also competed in the modern pentathlon at the 1980 Moscow Olympics.  She speaks with Around the Rings Editor Ed Hula about when to expect the Russian Federation back from suspension.   “There has never been a doubt that IAAF wants them back, but IAAF wants them back in a proper shape and without any of these things that happened in the past,” Barlag said. Barlag speaks about other topics throughout the interview, ranging from IAAF’s fight against air pollution to the lack of diversity within federation leadership.

My guest this week is 2009 World Champion in the 20km walk, Olive Loughnane. I was very much looking forward to chatting with Olive to get a view into what made her the highly successful champion that she was. So, naturally I was delighted when we connected back in February and she ‘walked’ (sorry) me though her career.As a big sport fan, with a huge interest in performance psychology and how to get that extra 1%, listening to Olive talk about her gradual improvement over the years, having fierce determination and, of course, never giving up, was a real treat.During the conversation, Olive shared stories that stood out during her journey and breaks down what the process is and what the key ingredients are to become a world champion. She almost makes it sound possible for the average person!The topics covered include:Being Originally from Cork and moved to Galway at the age of 4.Spending school and her degree years in GalwayEarliest memories linked to the Moscow Olympics in 1980Having a fondness and love for the outdoorsAlways being very determined from a very young ageStarting out in Athletics at the age of 12The Value of Volunteers & Influencers along the wayCross Country was Olives first big eventLoving being part of a teamHaving a draw towards the Walk as it was endurance based and technical –Meeting Michael Lane – another volunteer and he was a big influenceHaving ‘the Eye of the Tiger’, determination & tenacitySport is as much about the mental tenacity as it is about the underlying physical talentsLearning to set big Setting Big GoalsSetting high standards for herself & Control the controllableFor Olive, Sport Psychology was about taking a step back and relaxing and learning to go with the flowTaking Calculated Risk takingBeing a Statistician and being very analytical in natureNominated Athlete of the Year in Leaving Cert marking a breakthrough pointSacrifices didn’t seem so big and the high standards became the normBreaking down the steps taken to qualify for the OlympicsLogical and PlanningBreaking the Big goal into Medium goals and then smaller goalsMaking it more manageableGradual building of confidence – short-termSMART Goals being applied to getting to the OlympicsWhere the Magic comes in with Goals – Realistic is the part that could be different!!Plateaus in the career and dealing with theseIn 2003-5 leaving some of it on the road by overtrainingLearning that her training plan needed to be managed moreWorking with Sports scientists & listening to the data moreThe Walk was an individual race but a team sportBeing very lucky to have a team of people around herOvercoming from challenges and learning from theseHaving to reach an Olympic standard again within 6 months the birth of her daughter or face a funding cut10 days after having a C-Section starting to train again and full training 6 weeks laterGetting Burnt out in 2007 after training too hard too quicklyStill having the belief in 2007 that she could still do this – didn’t matter who believed it2009 training – calming down and finishing 7thin Beijing gave her confidenceKnowing that the race in 2009 was her day in Berlin total belief this was the day for a medalSeeing the calmness as the main difference – here to do the job! Visualization techniques – focusing on the process not the resultSport is all about the process – and it is!Intuition v Data & FactsControl v Letting go with GoalsLife after retirement working with the high-performance committee of Sport IrelandCareer convergence with Analytical and Experience1% Better tips:The Value of Volunteers & Influencers along the wayFocusing on the process – awareness that the pain will come but being readyAccepting there would be challenges, expecting them and overcoming themHaving positive mantras – my last 5km is always my strongestDeveloping a calmness in competition – building awarenessControlling the controllableDeveloping a Goal System – using SMART & Heart!Setting big long term goals, then medium term goals, then smaller shorter goalsFollow Olive on Twitter - https://twitter.com/OliveLoughnaneJust a quick note to say thanks for listening. There are a lot of podcasts to choose from and you picking this one means a lot to me. I know that sounds like a cheese-ball thing to say, but it’s true! I’m enjoying creating these shows, learning from them and I’m hoping that you are too.To help me make the show even better, I wand & need your help. Your feedback is essential. So, please take a few minutes to get in touch (links below, or subscribe on iTunes and leave a rating or review).If you liked this episode, share out the link via one of the socials. It will help me reach a bigger audience. If One Person gets something from the Episode that makes them 1% Better, I’ll be a happy man.Finally, if you really love the show, and really want me to take it to the next level, I’ve set up a Patreon site where you pledge some financial support. That would be awesome. You will also get exclusive access to upcoming podcasts and article posts that are just for those that are Patreons.Connect in with Rob on the socials or via email on:Email    Twitter   Facebook   WebsiteSubscribe to the Rob of the Green Newsletter Here

My guest this week is 2009 World Champion in the 20km walk, Olive Loughnane. I was very much looking forward to chatting with Olive to get a view into what made her the highly successful champion that she was. So, naturally I was delighted when we connected back in February and she ‘walked’ (sorry) me though her career.As a big sport fan, with a huge interest in performance psychology and how to get that extra 1%, listening to Olive talk about her gradual improvement over the years, having fierce determination and, of course, never giving up, was a real treat.During the conversation, Olive shared stories that stood out during her journey and breaks down what the process is and what the key ingredients are to become a world champion. She almost makes it sound possible for the average person!The topics covered include:Being Originally from Cork and moved to Galway at the age of 4.Spending school and her degree years in GalwayEarliest memories linked to the Moscow Olympics in 1980Having a fondness and love for the outdoorsAlways being very determined from a very young ageStarting out in Athletics at the age of 12The Value of Volunteers & Influencers along the wayCross Country was Olives first big eventLoving being part of a teamHaving a draw towards the Walk as it was endurance based and technical –Meeting Michael Lane – another volunteer and he was a big influenceHaving ‘the Eye of the Tiger’, determination & tenacitySport is as much about the mental tenacity as it is about the underlying physical talentsLearning to set big Setting Big GoalsSetting high standards for herself & Control the controllableFor Olive, Sport Psychology was about taking a step back and relaxing and learning to go with the flowTaking Calculated Risk takingBeing a Statistician and being very analytical in natureNominated Athlete of the Year in Leaving Cert marking a breakthrough pointSacrifices didn’t seem so big and the high standards became the normBreaking down the steps taken to qualify for the OlympicsLogical and PlanningBreaking the Big goal into Medium goals and then smaller goalsMaking it more manageableGradual building of confidence – short-termSMART Goals being applied to getting to the OlympicsWhere the Magic comes in with Goals – Realistic is the part that could be different!!Plateaus in the career and dealing with theseIn 2003-5 leaving some of it on the road by overtrainingLearning that her training plan needed to be managed moreWorking with Sports scientists & listening to the data moreThe Walk was an individual race but a team sportBeing very lucky to have a team of people around herOvercoming from challenges and learning from theseHaving to reach an Olympic standard again within 6 months the birth of her daughter or face a funding cut10 days after having a C-Section starting to train again and full training 6 weeks laterGetting Burnt out in 2007 after training too hard too quicklyStill having the belief in 2007 that she could still do this – didn’t matter who believed it2009 training – calming down and finishing 7thin Beijing gave her confidenceKnowing that the race in 2009 was her day in Berlin total belief this was the day for a medalSeeing the calmness as the main difference – here to do the job! Visualization techniques – focusing on the process not the resultSport is all about the process – and it is!Intuition v Data & FactsControl v Letting go with GoalsLife after retirement working with the high-performance committee of Sport IrelandCareer convergence with Analytical and Experience1% Better tips:The Value of Volunteers & Influencers along the wayFocusing on the process – awareness that the pain will come but being readyAccepting there would be challenges, expecting them and overcoming themHaving positive mantras – my last 5km is always my strongestDeveloping a calmness in competition – building awarenessControlling the controllableDeveloping a Goal System – using SMART & Heart!Setting big long term goals, then medium term goals, then smaller shorter goalsFollow Olive on Twitter - https://twitter.com/OliveLoughnaneJust a quick note to say thanks for listening. There are a lot of podcasts to choose from and you picking this one means a lot to me. I know that sounds like a cheese-ball thing to say, but it’s true! I’m enjoying creating these shows, learning from them and I’m hoping that you are too.To help me make the show even better, I wand & need your help. Your feedback is essential. So, please take a few minutes to get in touch (links below, or subscribe on iTunes and leave a rating or review).If you liked this episode, share out the link via one of the socials. It will help me reach a bigger audience. If One Person gets something from the Episode that makes them 1% Better, I’ll be a happy man.Finally, if you really love the show, and really want me to take it to the next level, I’ve set up a Patreon site where you pledge some financial support. That would be awesome. You will also get exclusive access to upcoming podcasts and article posts that are just for those that are Patreons.Connect in with Rob on the socials or via email on:Email    Twitter   Facebook   WebsiteSubscribe to the Rob of the Green Newsletter Here

When we bring guests onto the #WeGotGoals podcast, we know they aren't just inspiring individuals because of what they've accomplished, but because they have a unique perspective on goal setting that we can't wait to unpack. Lee Kemp, seven-time wrestling national champion with three gold medals in the World Championships, four in the Wrestling World Cup and two in the Pan-American Championships, might just have the most fascinating outlook on setting goals we've ever had the privilege of sharing on the podcast. In 1980, Kemp was headed to the Summer Olympic Games in Moscow when he heard the news on television: President Carter announced America's boycott of the Olympics. This news, which may have sounded like a disappointment to avid sports fans at home, changed the course of Kemp's life forever. "That was going to be the launching pad for my success," he told me during our interview. "Well, that launching pad wasn't there. That flight had took off and I wasn't on it." Kemp is one of the most decorated athletes we've interviewed, but this defining moment in his career, which he describes as akin to a death in the family, propelled us into a deeper conversation about setting goals - how you respond when the one thing you're fighting for doesn't come to fruition. Although many of us don't face literal Olympic-size disappointments, Kemp's story is relatable to every up and down we experience in our careers, relationships, dreams and goals. "Sometimes life throws you something that you can't really understand, like a death, like a sickness, but you still have to, to move on," he says. That's just what Kemp did. Two phrases that Kemp's role model and fellow wrestler told him in a high school wrestling camp fueled his fire throughout his wrestling career: "anyone can be beaten" and "anyone could be a champion." He took those two pieces of advice to heart at this inflection point in his career and created a fresh pathway to becoming a champion, even if his view of what "champion" meant changed. "I went to graduate school ... I got an MBA and I went to work in New York City in marketing and start[ed] to focus on just developing other skills." Kemp describes owning his own car dealership for 14 years like being in the ring. "I felt like I was in a wrestling match every day trying to tackle all the things you tackle [owning a business]." Although Kemp is grateful that wrestling made its way back into his life - he coached at the 2008 Olympics and now helps out coaching his son - he recognizes the lessons he was forced to learn may be more valuable for life than what any Olympic victory could have done for him. "I'm kind of almost glad that things didn't go the way I thought, because I would have just been very satisfied in all my success in wrestling ... I wouldn't have [had] to really venture out to gain other skills to learn how to do other things." Kemp's unique perspective in the professional, corporate world and as a professional athlete allowed him to see that across every industry, there are days when you have to dig deep, pull yourself together and make it through something tough. "I realize is that every industry and discipline - sports, business, anything - there is this overwhelming drive on how can we be successful no matter what discipline that we're in," as Kemp puts it. The 1980 Olympics were, of course, a disappointment and an unfair turn of events for Kemp. But his story of resilience is far more impactful, far more resounding, to the rest of the world than any gold medal. Listen to how this Olympic athlete's goal setting mindset changed based on one life event, and how he's taken success into his own hands for the present and the future. And if you like what you hear, subscribe where ever you get your podcasts and leave us a rating or a review on Apple Podcasts. --- Transcript: JAC: Welcome to #WeGotGoals, a podcast by aSweatlife.com. I'm Jeana Anderson Cohen, and with me you have Kristen Geil and Maggie Umberger. KG: Hi Jeana. MU: Hi Jeana. JAC: Hi Ladies. How are you? MU: Doing well JAC: And Maggie, you interviewed Lee Kemp this week, right? MU: I did, I interviewed Lee Kemp. He's a world champion wrestler who has a story unlike any we've ever heard from an athlete before, and it was not only eye opening, but really inspiring to talk to him this week. KG: One of the things with Lee is, unlike every other guest that we've had here on aSweatlife where we focus on goals that they've achieved. But with Lee the conversation, always has to include a goal that he actually missed out on, not through any fault of his own. Can you give the reader a little background of what goal he had to miss, not because of anything that he did, and maybe how that's still affecting him today? MU: Lee is an incredibly decorated athlete. He has won so many titles as a world champion wrestler and so he has so many accomplishments that he can speak to and that are really inspiring to hear as someone who would be a guest on our, on our podcast anyway. But the main story that we ended up talking about is one that was defining for him because it was a goal he missed out on. He did not get to go to the 1980 Moscow Olympics because of the US boycott. And that was a goal for him and just hearing him outline it from his perspective of being such a world-class athlete and having the chance to go, to compete at an Olympic level and he didn't get to go and it wasn't his fault and so the aftermath of that was what we ended up talking about as a story of resilience, a story of finding a new path to success when what you thought was going to be your launching pad and envisioning some goal, having to rewrite the script and find success in another way. JAC: And to hear Lee speak—it’s sort of interesting because this is such a defining moment for him and it is a defining topic when he speaks to young athletes when he speaks to athletes who are adult age. Maggie, do you think, do you get the sense from him that he ever got over it? MU: I'm not sure that he did and I don't even know how I would either, like putting myself in those shoes to be at that level of athleticism and be deprived of the opportunity to compete is a huge loss, and he talks about it as such as a loss for him because he never—it wasn't like he competed and lost the Games, he just never got the chance to go. And so I don't think he's gotten over it, but where he's pivoted and the things he's done since then have truly proven that he doesn't take no for an answer and that he's going to write his own success story no matter what, and I think that was the most inspiring piece of this talk. And so hearing that he went to grad school, hearing that he started his own business and that now he helps coach his son in wrestling. He's been to the 2008 Olympics as a coach and he's written a book. He will have a movie produced about him. There are so many avenues that he can still say are success stories for him. But I think the biggest takeaway really isn't even in a tangible goal, but it's the way that you have to respond to failure. And we all in our lives deal with that on a small scale and on a huge scale. We don't always talk about the things that go wrong. We talk about the big success stories and just looking at that as holding it up as this amazing accomplishment. And sometimes it's those moments of falling down that are way more defining and way more empowering to an individual. And so that was what I was so grateful to talk to Lee about so openly. JAC: And it sounds like he learned a lot from that. And so did you. So here is Maggie with Lee Kemp. MU: So I'm here today on the #WeGotGoals podcast with Lee Kemp, and Lee, I'm going to try to say all your titles, but I might get it wrong, so please correct me if I am, but you're a seven-time national champion who won three gold medals in the World Championships and four in the World Cup of Wrestling as well as two in the Pan American Games. So you're a champion wrestler. LK: Yes, I got that down. MU: So how did you find that sport and when did you realize that you might have the potential to be very good at it? LK: You know, that's a good question because I started out playing basketball, you know, in seventh and eighth grade and I started wrestling really late by today's standards. You know, most athletes or even people that are good at anything, you know, they start when they're six, seven, you know, four or five if, if, whatever, you know, whatever sport, gymnastics, swimming, wrestling. But I started only in ninth grade. Prior to that, I played basketball and the reason why I got into wrestling because I wasn't very good at basketball and I made a good choice. I didn't grow, didn't get any taller, and maybe I wasn't, uh, I just wasn't very good. And so I found wrestling through some friends in high school who were wrestlers and the high school gym coach, he was the wrestling coach, so he was recruiting people to come out for the wrestling team. And back then we had wrestling in gym class. I don't think they do that anymore. I got in and the one lure that got me in is that the coach needed 138-pounder and I weighed 138. So he threw me out there right away on the freshman team. So that's how I got started. MU: The magic number 138. So usually on #WeGotGoals, we ask two big questions, one of them being, what's a big goal that you accomplished and how did you get there? Your story is very interesting because at the point where you earned your spot at the Olympics in the 1980 Games, you couldn't go to those Games. They were boycotted. So I think that this is a really interesting point to talk about a, the achievement of getting to that level and B, how did you handle and how did you deal with that shift in your plans that totally wasn't your fault. LK: You know, that's a complex question because of the boycott. The boycott just changed everything. I’m still not totally over that. But anyway, when I got into wrestling, I was an average wrestler, as you can imagine. I just started, so I was just average. I had a 500 season the next year on varsity and that summer I met Dan Gable and Dan Gable was like the Michael Jordan of wrestling. He was, he was just, you know, he was the best wrestler in the world and the unique thing of that meeting him, it was the summer of 1972. That summer he went on to win an Olympic gold medal and I had the chance to meet him when I was just my summer after my 10th grade year in high school. And he was so good that the Russians had made a declaration that they would find a Russian to beat him cause they were the best in the world at wrestling and here this American was beating them and that was a big deal, that they were going to find a Russian restaurant to beat Dan Gable. And I was at this wrestling camp and there was Dan Gable and that was one of, I was like 14 or 15 years old and he talked about that a little bit. The pressure about that. And the thing he said that stuck with me, he said that anyone could be beaten. Doesn't matter if it's the Russian or not, you know, anyone could be beaten. So I'm setting my goals to beat this Russian and to win an Olympic gold medal. Doesn't matter if they're scouring their entire country to find a person to beat me. So that stuck with me. And the other thing that stuck with me was that he said to all the wrestlers there, any one of you could be champions and so I’m like, even me? Wow. I mean we all hear that, when we go to listen to motivational speakers or whatever, you know, they always say, if I could do it, you could do it right? It sounds like a cliché now. But there's always one or two people in the audience that will actually believe it. LK: And I was one of those people and it's like, I could be a champion, Dan Gable said it. And the second thing he said is anybody can be beaten. And the reason why that's important is because right then I set my goal to be like him, like Dan Gable. So I went home after the camp, it was just a week-long camp and so I watched him win his gold medal on TV, on ABC. He was over in Munich, Germany. He beat that Russian and he won the gold medal. No one scored a point on him, so he was just invincible in my mind, so I said, I want to be like him. I don't want to lose any more matches. I’m going to be just like Dan Gable. That was my goal and the next two years I went undefeated in high school and won the state title and when I talked to wrestlers and when I give speeches and stuff, I talk to people. LK: It's like, it's not. I didn't find a Superman cape in my closet when I got home, you know, it just didn't suddenly discover I was Superman. What happened was my thought process changed. My attitude changed. I started to act like Dan Gable, but when you do that, there's a lot of work that goes along with trying to be like him. There's a lot of wrestlers I coach and I try to show them what they need to do to be a champion and they look at me and go like, well, I don't want to do that. I just don't want to commit that much to it. That's fine. We all pick our place in life where we want to be. Dan held nothing back in his training. I had a chance to watch him train at the camp too. That's by the way, too. I watched him run, lift, while the other kids after the session they would go to lunch or whatever. LK: I said, forget lunch. I just wanted to watch this man train and so I took in all that just, I don't know what you would call it, but it's just by watching him train and I, I started to understand the intensity that it took because I watched him. I could see his face, I could see the sweat, I could see the toil. I just started to understand what it was going to take to be as good as him. So when I went back right away, right when I got back from that camp I started training, I started running lifting and doing everything that I saw him do it and it allowed me to win and go undefeated the next two years, get a scholarship to college and all that. But the important part of this story is that I wrestled Dan Gable less than four years after I met him as a sophomore in high school. LK: We fast forward to the 76 Olympics. Uh, I was in college then, Dan had won it four years earlier in the 72 Olympics. He had retired but he's making a comeback and he entered this college tournament that I was in and it was in November, so at the very start of my sophomore year and Dan Gable is in my weight class. It was like a David and Goliath type of scenario. He was 26 or 27 and I was 18 and um, I wrestled him. And I used those two statements he made at that camp through my whole life after I met him and I used those statements to beat him. He said, anyone can be beaten. It doesn't matter if it's Dan Gable, and he said Lee Kemp, he didn't use my name, but he was telling all of us campers, any one of you could be champions, any one of you could be just like me. So, so I, I approached that match with that mindset. MU: And then going on to earn your spot at the Olympics when something seemingly unthinkable happen and President Jimmy Carter decided to boycott the 1980 Olympics. So how did you find out about that and how did you react to that moment? LK: I mentioned Dan Gable again because he was the coach of that Olympic team, so Dan had the opportunity and I had the opportunity to be coached by him to be mentored by him. That one match was just what it was. It was just one match. We became really good friends. He didn't wrestle anymore after that. He coached me a lot after that, but after I met Dan Gable, I wanted to be Olympic champion, so at that moment I knew I was going to be an Olympic gold medalist. Everything else was just stepping stones along the way, so I had a successful college career and all that and Dan coached me to two world titles prior to the Olympic Games in 1978 the year, my senior year in college, Dan was our USA coach and I made our world team and our national team that competed in the world and I won the World Championship. LK: I was the youngest American to ever win, I was 21 when I won the world championships then and so for over 30 years it took someone to win as a younger person. Kyle Snyder was that individual, so he's one of our phenoms in wrestling today. And I want it the next year. Dan coached me. He was in my corner. I trained with him every day so 80, he was the coach and we were focused. I was focused. It was before the Internet obviously, and all that, so just heard about it on, on the news and Dan reached out to all of us and said, don't watch the news, we're, we're, we're going to Moscow. Don’t—just focus, stay training. So I listened to him and I said, OK, I just stayed focused on stayed training and um, I couldn't in my wildest imagination think we were not going to go to the Olympic Games. LK: That's unprecedented. I mean, even during one of the World Wars we had the Olympic Games, even when Hitler was doing, you know, all those horrible things. We still had the Olympic Games in Germany, you know, so with all that knowledge and Gable kind of informed us that, hey, we're, we're, we'll, we'll find a way to get there, just keep training. And um, and so I did. Eventually the inevitable happened. Our country, through public statements that Jimmy Carter made, I watched it and it was incredible. I mean, it was a big deal because he convinced not just, you know, America and the U.S. Olympic Committee because there was a vote that was taken, but he convinced like 20 or 30 other countries to not go to the Olympic Games. So one of my competitors, a West German, I had won it and he was second in the world championships. LK: He was a very formidable opponent and he couldn't go either as an example in my particular weight class. It was a lot, just was, it affected a lot of people. It was just horrible. But, and you know, I equated, I guess there's a lot of analogies you can make, but probably one of the strongest ones that I use and it's pretty strong, it’s pretty harsh, because I have children. You know, it's like losing a child, losing a loved one or I mean it's even stronger than a divorce because at least a divorce, that person is still alive and they're physically there. When there's a death, when you lose a child or lose a spouse or lose a loved one, they're no longer there. Well, the Olympics was no longer there. It was gone. There was no getting it back. You can't get the time back. LK: You can’t get the years back. You can't get the training back in. And the Olympics is gone. I missed my opportunity. In my mind, I think of it as a loss. I have people, they have to remind me, Lee, you didn't lose the Olympics, you just didn't go. And I still say why I wasn't an Olympic champion. There's times I'm in groups of other athletes that are Olympic champions and you know, and there’s photo, photo, you know, let's take some pictures, all of us Olympic champions get a picture together. And I'm there and I, and everybody kinda goes and I'm just, I can't go because I'm not Olympic champion. And sometimes they say, oh Lee come on, you can get in the picture too. I’m like, nope, I’m—it just circumstance, circumstance could've been, I could've got hurt and couldn't have gone. Or I could've got beat, which was hard for me to conceptualize at that time because I just felt I was ready and all that. LK: But, uh, sometimes life throws you something that you can't really understand, like a death, like a sickness, like any of the things I've just mentioned, but you still have to, to move on. I would say I've learned more from that. Obviously it sounds corny, but by that huge disappointment because it forced me to have to figure out what to do and go on. And what I did is I trained for another four years and at that time there wasn't any way to support yourself. We were true amateurs. When I was competing, Michael Jordan wasn't playing in the Olympic Games and Serena Williams wasn't. And I'm not criticizing that, but that just didn't exist. The tennis players were the college players, the basketball, Olympic basketball team were the top basketball players. The moment you became a professional, you could compete in the Olympic Games or any amateur—I mean, the Olympic Games is for amateur athletes. But I guess when America started to lose in basketball, they decided. we've got to recruit some of our star athletes to play. But, but anyway, that, that was, um, you know, it, I just can't even … well, you never get over a death. You never get over a loss like that, but you just still move on. MU: Well, and the lesson that you had to learn, that you were forced to learn that because you were presented with a scenario that was totally out of your control, probably carries over into every other aspect of your life I imagine. And so I think about how we all have to deal with all these struggles in life. Like nothing is constant but change and how you can have goals, you can set goals but things will change and you'll have to navigate those waters when they do. And so if you were to give some kind of advice to others who have wrenches thrown in their plans on route to their goals, what would you share with them based on what you learned? LK: Well, the first thing is you can't quit. And when I say quit, I mean it's a pretty broad term. I've seen people quit in the main thing they were trying to achieve, but they quit like in everything. You know, it's like, just because you didn't win that Olympic gold medal doesn't mean you can't go on and maybe go to graduate school or maybe go set another goal or maybe, I mean, you can think of, you know, maybe start your career, whatever it is. And it's not all about making money. I've got some really good friends and good mentors that were great high school coaches. I mean they mentored young men and women through lots of different things. So the thing I had to figure out was that I needed to be successful still, I thought of myself as a successful person. The hard part was, is that my image was this wrestler that was going to be an Olympic champion. LK: That's how I envisioned my success story was going to start and not there, but not stop there. But that was going to be the, the launching pad for my success. Well that launching pad wasn't there. That flight had took off and I wasn't on it. So I had to figure out another place that I could be successful. And I went to graduate school. I worked hard at that. And school wasn't really something that I worked hard at when I was an undergrad. So I, I got an MBA and I went to work in New York City in marketing and start to focus on just developing other skills. I was a business owner. I owned a car dealership for 14 years and I used wrestling a lot to tackle those challenges. All the employees there knew I was a wrestler and I was an athlete, I was a former wrestler. And just some relationships that I made when I was in the car business was pretty, pretty amazing. LK: I felt like I was in a wrestling match every day trying to tackle all the things you tackle, trying to be successful in, in, in the auto industry. It’s a really tough business and I kind of have come full circle because I was in the car business for 14 years, never thought I'd ever come back to wrestling. I kind of walked away from wrestling and the thing I left out probably conveniently was when I trained for those four more years in 84, I didn't make the team. I got beat by David Schultz, another great American wrestler who's younger than me. I lost and I couldn't fulfill that dream even though that was, that was. So I lost twice kind of in my mind. Dave went on to win a gold medal. I watched him win his gold medal in L.A. The boycott screwed up two Olympic Games because in 84 the Games were going to be in Los Angeles and guess who boycotted. The Soviet Union or Russia and all their allied nations. But, but still, I mean it was like a double disappointment that it didn't make the team. So I had to go forward still in my life and that's, you know, where I previously talked about getting my MBA and working in business and having the auto dealership and all that. MU: So when you did go to the Olympics to coach years later, what did it mean to you and how could you use your experiences to help other individuals go after their goals? LK: Well, you know, it was 38 years later actually from the 80 games I think something like that, to 2008. Quite a lot of years later. That all came about through another disappointment, I guess you could say. The auto industry took, was taking a huge downturn in 2007. In 2008 when Obama took office, he bailed out the auto industry. That's how bad things were getting. I went through a horrible divorce then. I mean it was just a lot of things were crashing in my life at that time and a good friend reached out to me and said, Lee, why don't you come to the National World Team Trials? And it was kind of a homecoming when I went to the World team trials and I, you know, I kind of got that fire back, I guess have that feeling that I had when I wrestled. LK: I connected with all the athletes, they remembered who I was, even though I was older, so I got back on the national coaching staff. I coached the junior team that went to China and competed, some of those wrestlers are current stars now. I coached one of our senior teams and then I, um, I got to be the Olympic coach in 2008. So that was an amazing experience. I got to march in the opening ceremonies 38 years after I missed my opportunity. And I've kind of been around wrestling ever since, you know, I do clinics and coaching and I try to motivate young men and women, you know, women are wresting now and they're doing an amazing, amazing job. And now my son is wrestling. So that was another thing. My son's a senior in high school, so I'm trying to mentor him and guide him a little bit. He's a good writer too. He's a good, uh, a very good in English, very good in storytelling and story writing and all that. MU: So these points in your life that you're sharing that you say are disappointments, but. You know, you'll, you'll start saying this was a disappointment, but then—it shows to me like this overwhelming sense of resilience and moving forward, which is a quality I think we're all working towards and so I can only imagine that there are great things in your future. So the second piece of this equation of our podcast is asking you what is next? What's a goal that you're working towards? How do you want to get there? LK: That's a great question because I have had to think about ,what, what am I going to do with my life now? And I'm kind of almost glad in a way that things didn't go the way I thought because I would have just been very satisfied in all my success in wrestling and there would've been some avenues maybe there that I could have earned some money, would’ve been because of that success that I wouldn't have to really venture out to gain other skills to learn how to do other things. I never would have went into the business world as I had to. I worked in New York City for four years and that was pretty competitive for a major consumer packaged goods company, forced me to learn new skills. But right now what I realize is that every industry and discipline, sports, business, anything—there is this overwhelming drive on how can we be successful no matter what discipline that we're in? LK: So a person like myself, I've found a way to motivate people, not just in athletics. I can motivate people in business. I can people that are maybe in music because it all, it all revolves around talent, but once you have talent, you've got to do something with that talent, and it requires the ability to be motivated. So the area that I am moving into now is motivational speaking. I find that that's an area that that I think I could be very good at. I've listened to and studied and still study, just like I studied Dan Gable, I study a lot of great speakers. I love their messages and I think I could be a good motivational speaker. I've got a lot, a lot of experiences, not only as an athlete but in business because I can remember some pretty tough days in business, in the auto industry of trying to, you know, keep that business afloat over those 14 years. LK: You know, there's, it just reminds me of the toughest day I had in the wrestling room, you know, and even in school, I remember some of those days where you have to pull yourself up. I can remember, you know, when I went through my divorce it was, you know, I mean, what divorce is a good divorce I guess? And my kids were small at the time and it was about a five year period I wasn't with my kids, so that was very difficult to have my daughter and son. My older son was—he didn't come live with me, but my younger son and daughter came to live with me when they were 10 and 16. And now my son now is wrestling. The last thing I thought ever that I would be coaching and being around my son as a wrestler. So we, we were developing that relationship together. LK: Uh, we've got a trip planned to the UK where I'm going to be doing some speaking and coaching, wrestling, so I'm kind of moving that whole direction in my life now being able to motivate other people based on my life experiences. And there's a, there's a science to it as well to success and there's a common thread to all of it. And, you know—I wrote a book called Winning Gold and it's just a book of 75 messages, motivational messages. And in the very beginning of the book. I have a quote by Michael Jordan and you know, he talks about, you know, practice like you've never won but play like you've never lost. And that's a quote that, that opens my book. So I have quotes from myself that I kind of thought of based on my career, other things that motivated me. And so I feel like no matter what setting I'm in, the conversation always leads to how can I be more successful? LK: And then when I hear, when I hear the conversations moving in that direction, I'm like, well, I can help you with that because I know what it takes. And I've been there. I've been, I've been at the top and I've been struggling too, and I've kind of been able to figure out how to get myself moving back up toward the top again. And you’re never there permanently. It's just a constant—it’s like paying your rent, you know, if you don't pay your rent, you're going to get evicted. Just because you have the rent money this month doesn't mean you're going to have it next month. So it's a constant battle really to stay where you want to be. And that's hopefully on top. MU: So how can people find you and learn more about your background and your current work or speaking engagements now? LK: My website just leekemp.com and all the information is there. I try to, um, when I, when I do speak in venues, I mean I try to promote them on Facebook and Twitter and my Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and all that is on my main webpage. You can find links to those from leekemp.com. Mu: Well, it's been an honor to hear your story. I'm by no means any kind of athlete, but the lessons that you've learned and that you shared resonate with me, I think they'll resonate with all of our listeners, so thank you so much for joining me, Lee. LK: Oh, awesome being here. I appreciate it. CK: This podcast was produced by me, Cindy Kuzma, and it's another thing that's better with friends, so please share it with yours. You can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and if you have a chance to leave us a rating or view an Apple Podcasts or iTunes, we would be really grateful. Special thanks to J. Mano for our theme music; to our guest this week, Lee Kemp; and to Tech Nexus for the recording studio.

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Greetings, Comrades! We are very happy to publish a new episode so soon, but we also have to apologize for the brevity of this episode – Moscow Olympics is a subject that just didn't fit in anywhere else, so, better to publish this alone. Here are the pictures, mentioned within the show: Firstly, the Moscow Olympic emblem and the glorious bear, Misha! Then comes a typical poster for the Olympics Soviet-made Coca-Cola and Fanta. It exists, tovarischi! And finally, Kozakiewicz... Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/theeasternborder. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Rivals special with Sebastian Coe revisiting the Moscow Olympics stadium and memories of the 1980 big contest by Steve Ovett's close friend and training partner, Matt Paterson, plus heptathlete rivals, Jessica Ennis and Tatiana Chernova; equestrian audio diaries from Ruth Edge in Cumbria and Piggy French in Leicestershire; South African swimmer in Paralympics and Olympic games, Natalie du Toit; the Belgian relay team train on Icelandic glaciers, and British table tennis champ, Darius Knight, tells us about the loyal support of his Mum, Dionne.

In 1980, the British swimmer, Duncan Goodhew, faced a moral dilemma over whether to compete in the Moscow Olympics, which were being boycotted by the USA.In the end, he decided to compete and won Gold in the 100m breastroke.For Witness, David Prest hears from Duncan Goodhew and other British athletes at the 1980 games.PHOTO: Hulton Archive/Getty Images

In 1980, the British swimmer, Duncan Goodhew, faced a moral dilemma over whether to compete in the Moscow Olympics, which were being boycotted by the USA. In the end, he decided to compete and won Gold in the 100m breastroke. For Witness, David Prest hears from Duncan Goodhew and other British athletes at the 1980 games. PHOTO: Hulton Archive/Getty Images

An introduction to newly released files from 1980, covering subjects such as economic policy, the European Community Budget, relations with trade unions, the Iranian Embassy siege and the potential boycott of the Moscow Olympics. These files provide a fascinating insight into government 30 years ago. Presented by Mark Dunton, and introduced by Tommy Norton.