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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell revisit powerful moments on relationships from the Be It Till You See It archives. Featuring insights on divorce, grief, narcissism, and harmony, this curated episode offers actionable advice to foster deeper bonds and inspire transformation. Whether you're discovering new episodes or revisiting old favorites, this compilation will empower you to Be It Till You See It in your relationships.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Renee Bauer shares how embracing her divorce story led to empowerment and connection.Krista St-Germain explains how Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) helps process grief and calm the nervous system.Rebecca Zung reframes narcissistic relationships, focusing on recognizing your value.Kelli Adame highlights the importance of setting boundaries and understanding your feelings for healthier relationships.Episode References/Links:Ep. 217 with Renee Bauer - https://beitpod.com/ep217Ep. 235 with Krista St-Germain - https://beitpod.com/ep235Ep. 268 with Rebecca Zung - https://beitpod.com/ep268Ep. 280 Kelli Adame Williams - https://beitpod.com/ep280Renee Bauer Website and Podcast https://msreneebauer.com/Krita St-Germain Website https://www.coachingwithkrista.com/Rebecca Zung's Website – https://www.rebeccazung.com/Kelli Adame Website - https://kelliadame.com/meet-kelli/Kelli Adame Website - https://www.lovebravelyacademy.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:42  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview, not recap, but episodes, recaps. Brad Crowell 0:48  What? Lesley Logan 0:49  What? What are we doing here? Well. Brad Crowell 0:50  We're changing it up. Lesley Logan 0:51  We're changing it up for December, and we're figuring it out as we go along. But actually, the team has prepared really epic episodes for you for all month long, and today's episode is some of our favorite relationship episodes. So we're actually going to have four different clips for you from some of our favorite guests who have something to say about relationships. Brad Crowell 1:09  Yeah, yeah. So we're going to dig in. Lesley Logan 1:11  So whether you're single or not, there's actually probably a clip in here for you. And we know that we just, I mentioned this is episode 457, which means there's a couple 100 episodes of interviews, and if you just are joining us now, you might not have listened to all of those. So what our hope is this month is that by clipping some of our favorite parts of different topics, that it might take you to a direct episode that's going to really work with what you need and where you're at. So today's episode is on relationship, but we'll have grief, we'll have divorce, we'll have masculine and feminine energy guests. We actually have one about narcissism. So you know, relationships is a broad topic. So you can be single or in a relationship, and you could be super happy and still have some clip in here that might resonate with you. So here we go.Lesley Logan 1:59  All right. Loves our first clip we have for you is from our guest Renee Bauer, back in Episode 217. The topic is on divorce, and one of the parts I really loved, and I want you to hear is about just owning it.Brad Crowell 2:11  Yeah and the second part that we really liked in this episode was about finding your tribe. So here we go. Renee Bauer 2:23  I had gone on a friend's podcast and she started, she said, I'm gonna interview you. I'll bring sushi over. We'll have a couple martinis. It'll be all good. So she did that. I'm like, ooh, sushi, okay. I'm in. We poured the martini. She clipped on the mic and she started asking me about my divorce and maybe I was a little buzzed, but I actually started answering really honestly. And when that episode came out, people had reached out to me to say like, hey, that was my story too. Thank you for speaking so vulnerably about it. And that's when I realized I need to talk about this and not be ashamed about it. And so now, now it's like, it's second nature to just, to be like, yeah, I'm divorced twice, so what? You know? And so it was, it was sharing it, and I think so often, People don't wanna share that. And they're almost like, apologize. It's like, you know, the whisper like, oh, I'm divorced, or I'm twice divorced. And it's like, just own it. Be like, you know what? I was in two relationships that didn't work out and I made the brave decision to leave that because I wanted more from our family, for us, for our kids. And you know, that's okay. Find your tribe. Find a support system that may not include friends and family. So those people who are around you now, they're really well intentioned, but they may not be the best person to go to. So find a community of people, and there's so many of them out there in this world, and like, I have a private Facebook group for divorced women, but find a really positive tribe of people who get what you're going through so you don't feel so alone in it.Lesley Logan 4:00  All right, so now we're going to talk about the topic of grief. And Krista St-Germain from Episode 235, one of the most beautiful episodes we have. Honestly, I actually think about this episode a lot, because we happen to lose people in our lives all the time, but this particular one was about how she lost her spouse, and she talks about the Emotional Freedom Technique. And I think this is a really cool technique that we can all use no matter where we are in our lives. So. Brad Crowell 4:25  Yeah, that's EFT, if you're not familiar. Lesley Logan 4:27  Yeah, tap away.Krista St-Germain 4:34  This was hard for me because I have lots of ideas, and so I'm just going to go with one. So I'm a big fan of tapping, Emotional Freedom Technique. So thankfully, I had tapping in my pocket before my husband died. I already knew how to do it, and I knew how, and I had used it with my children when they were very little, and they were 12 and nine when Hugo died, so they had to use it for a number of years. But I love tapping because it creates calm in the nervous system and it allows us to let feelings flow through. It's great for grief grenades, right? Any sort of triggering situation where our nervous system is responding as though we are unsafe. So for me, the sound of metal crashing, CPR scenes, sirens, right, things like that. Tapping helped me in the moment when my nervous system was just tripping out. And then it also helped me to work with someone who could help me go back and neutralize those triggers so that when I remembered them or encountered them in my environment, my nervous system stopped thinking I was in danger, right? So I am a big proponent of that. You can just go to YouTube and learn all about tapping, right? You don't have to pay anyone to teach it to you.Brad Crowell 5:48  All right, y'all, I hope you found that super helpful and calming. EFT, the tapping technique to be able to pull out that tool and use that when you need it. All right. Next up, we got Episode 268, with Rebecca Zung, we are going to SLAY Your Way Out of a Narcissist. Okay? Lesley Logan 6:08  Yeah, I was so, this is like, when I, when Rebecca agreed to be on the pod, I was like, this is amazing. This is what all of our listeners need. And something that I think is, if you love this clip, I really hope you go back and listen to the full episode, because it will give you a lot of empowerment. If you were someone who's like, I always find, narcissists always find me. You will hear why they find you.Brad Crowell 6:29  Yeah, and I think there's a key in this, and it's value. And I, this hit home for me in a very real way. So this is a very powerful clip, and the episode is amazing. So here we go.Rebecca Zung 6:50  And I always remind people, they don't attach themselves to you because you have so little value. They attach themselves to you because you have so much value, even though they're devaluing you right away. They look for someone who's going to be a great source of supply for them, whether it's making them look good or giving them, you know, their ego looks good, because either with you or they are, you're going to be a great business partner for them because you're going to feed them a lot of things, or you're going to be a great romantic partner because you're either going to give them lots of adulation, or you look good on their arm, or you have lots of money, or whatever it's going to be, right? So they look for someone who's going to feed something within them, because they're so empty inside.Lesley Logan 7:51  All right. So that was Episode 268. Definitely go back and listen to that if you find narcissists have been finding you. Our last clip that we want to put in this relationship special is Episode 280, Create More Harmony in Your Relationship, with Kelli Adame Williams. We love Kelli Adame. We had so many people tell us how epic, she had two episodes on the podcast, actually, and I really, really enjoyed it. But the first one was really about kind of giving us permission to understand what we need and who we are, and also what we're saying yes to. So here is Episode 280 with Kelli Adame.Kelli Adame 8:41  So I tell women like, this is a good practice, like, don't do something, ask yourself, does this feel good to me? And if it doesn't, the answer is no, thank you. We're also so conditioned to say yes and to just do it. But then we can be resentful about that, then we can be passive aggressive about that. Then we can feel like, well, you owe me because I did this. No, you weren't, you weren't clear with you first. Does that make sense? Lesley Logan 9:06  Oh, yeah. Kelli Adame 9:07  That's the whole thing. To be in a healthy relationship, you have to be able to take personal responsibility for your behavior, your actions, your words, but you also have to know what you're feeling. Lesley Logan 9:16  Well, I hope this is really fun for you. I know that this is a very different way of the Be It Pod going, but our goal here is to, one, help you figure out which episodes in the past catalog might be helpful for you, but also just highlight some of our favorite takeaways, especially as the end of the year is here, there's so much chaos. You know, sometimes we need reminders of what we learned so we can take that information and take the next steps in our life to be it till we see it.Brad Crowell 9:41  Yeah. If you enjoyed this, let us know. We actually need to know. If you dug the change up today. Lesley Logan 9:46  Yeah, if you hated it, you can send us a message. If you loved it, you can leave a review. That's your Christmas present to us. Or, or, I heard a podcast say, still give us five stars, but then you can tell us you didn't like it in the review. That's fine, but the five stars is important.Brad Crowell 10:05  Well, thanks for listening, y'all and stick around. We've got a couple more fun episodes for you this month that are in a similar vein. Is this right? Lesley Logan 10:12  Yeah, we're gonna do our favorite health episodes, and we're gonna do, I think, our business tip ones. Brad Crowell 10:12  We got favorite tips, bold moments. Lesley Logan 10:22  Bold moments. Brad Crowell 10:23  Favorite biz Tips. Lesley Logan 10:24  You know what? You're just gonna really enjoy.Brad Crowell 10:26  Cool advice.Lesley Logan 10:26  This whole month. Brad Crowell 10:27  It's gonna be good. Lesley Logan 10:28  It's a potpourri.Brad Crowell 10:29  Oh, and then we have a special one on the 31st. Lesley Logan 10:32  Oh. Brad Crowell 10:33  Yeah. Lesley Logan 10:34  Okay, can I tell them? Brad Crowell 10:35  I think you might as well hint at it at least. Lesley Logan 10:37  I already, because I just interviewed them. We're gonna get your astrology reading for 2025 from the Mom & Me Astrologers, Kate and Mary Swick. So do not, don't skip ahead. You can't because it won't go to the 31st, but also, don't wait till it comes out. You gotta listen to all these little round ups we've got for you. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 10:46  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 10:59  Thank you so much for listening. And until next time, you know what to do, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 11:03  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 11:05  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 11:48  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 11:52  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 11:57  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 12:04  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 12:07  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Whitney Lee is a marketing and PR strategy expert, the founder of True Story Public Relations - a 7-figure, award-winning agency, helping companies in the hospitality, products, and service industries thrive. Her superpower is her ability to help frustrated business owners who've tried it all, cut through all the noise and develop a custom strategy that actually moves the needle.    With a master's degree in integrated marketing communications from Florida State University, an Accreditation in Public Relations (APR), and a Certification as a Public Relations Counselor (CPRC), Whitney has grown her PR agency from the small beach town of Destin, Florida, to the international agency it is today. She was named Scarlett Magazine's "Woman of the Year" in PR, one of the "Five Most Dynamic Women Leaders Ruling the PR Industry" in the CIO Times and one of United Way's 40 under 40. Her insights are regularly featured in well-known media outlets like 850 Business Magazine, Emerald Coast Magazine, and the She Who Wins podcast with Renee Bauer to name a few.     Whitney is also a keynote speaker and the host of True Story: The PR Podcast where she shares tangible ways to market your business and simple strategies to connect with your ideal customers through social media, email marketing, and so much more.  #spaghettionthewall #podcast #leducentertainment

As a divorce attorney, today's guest Renee Bauer, has seen high achieving women sacrifice themselves in order to fulfill the role of good wife/boss/employee/mom/daughter. Today she is going to help us get clear on what they want, drop their excuses, and roll into action. So, let's chat about how divorcing your inner good girl is the only way to get the life you want. Key Takeaways How childhood expectations can affect a lifetime of decision making Getting clear on what you want, not what others expect of you Learn to listen to your intuition! Determining which tasks you must complete on your own, and what you can let go of Ready to kick your inner good girl to the curb, and honor the woman inside that is dying for her wants and needs to be acknowledged? Tune in on your favorite listening app, on the website, or watch it on YouTube! Links & Mentioned Resources Renee's FREE Fierce Affirmation E-deck About Renee Bauer Renee has been a divorce attorney for 20 years. She is the Founder and Managing Attorney of Happy Even After Family Law located in Connecticut.  Additionally, Renee Bauer is a speaker and author of 4 books – Divorce in Connecticut, The Ultimate Guide to Solo and Small Firm Success, SHE WHO WINS, and the children's book Percy's Imperfectly Perfect Family.  She hosts the annual She Who Wins Summit, a live event created to inspire, motivate and challenge women to move forward bravely in their personal and business lives. Her impact has been recognized by Success Magazine where she was nominated as a Woman of Influence and with awards such as Litigator of the Year, Women-Owned Business of the Year, and New Leaders in the Law. She has been featured in multiple media outlets such as the International Business Times, Comment Central, AP News, NBC, FOX, and iHeart Radio. Connect with Renee LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/rbauer1/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/ Website: msreneebauer.com/ Email: renee@msreneebauer.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kim and Maddie sit down with Renee Bauer, author of She Who Wins and owner of Happy Even After Family Law. They talk about leadership, strength and what it takes to ditch your inner 'good girl.'

The bestselling author, attorney, speaker, business owner and mom, Renee Bauer joins us today on the podcast to talk about how to ditch guilt, perfection, shame, and so much more. Learn how to overcome perfectionism and people pleasing. Learn why rejection and set backs are gifts. Learn how to ditch your inner “Good Girl.” Learn why letting go of the past is key to winning at life. Learn how to set boundaries with a single question. Learn how to use your intuition as your compass and what soul work looks like. To connect with Renee you can find her on Instagram @msreneebauer To check out here amazing book click here: https://www.amazon.com/She-Who-Wins-Overcome-Uncertainty/dp/1953027083 To connect with me go to @allisonmarketti on Instagram If you are enjoying this podcast Please leave a review!! To leave a review for the podcast, go to the main page of this podcast, scroll down to the bottom, click the stars and feel free to leave a written review too. This helps so much! Thank you for being here!

Renee Bauer is an attorney, motivational speaker, best selling author, and accomplished entrepreneur, and today we covered a plethora of topics. Renee shares her experience and the lessons she learned from divorce, and shares what to look for when it comes to divorce. We also cover marriage topics such as prenups, managing finances, divorce laws, the conversations that need to be had before marriage, and much more. Renee also dives into her book, "She Who Wins" where she teaches women to ditch their inner “good girl” and to be free from limitations, overcome doubt and uncertainty, people pleasing, and to live the life you dream of. Some methods to bring success in your life being a "no list" and "stop, drop, and roll." We hope you get lots of value out of this episode and learn to ditch you inner "good girl." Follow Renee: https://msreneebauer.com IG: @msreneebauer She Who Wins Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/she-who-wins/id1519600005Follow us:@excusemyfriend @heartlynrae

For the 139th episode of Private Parts Unknown, host Courtney Kocak welcomes divorce attorney Renée Bauer for a conversation about divorce, prenups, common reasons couples break up, and how to avoid them. Renée Bauer is an award-winning divorce attorney, international speaker, accomplished entrepreneur, and personal hype squad for countless women. She's the founder of She Who Wins, a business dedicated to helping women crush conventions and live bold, daring lives. Renée is also the author of a book and the host of a weekly podcast by the same name.  For more Renée Bauer: Buy Renée's book She Who Wins on bookshop.org Listen to the She Who Wins podcast Check out Renée's website msreneebauer.com Follow Renée on Twitter @msreneebauer Follow Renée on Instagram @msreneebauer Psst, Courtney also has an OnlyFans, which is a horny way to support the show: onlyfans.com/cocopeepshow Private Parts Unknown is a proud member of the Pleasure Podcast network. This episode is brought to you by: Lume is a whole-body deodorant for pits, privates, and beyond. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @lumedeodorant and get $5 off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code PPU at lumedeodorant.com! #lumepod Explore yourself and say yes to self-pleasure with Lovehoney. Save 15% off your next favorite toy from Lovehoney when you go to ppupod.com, click Lovehoney, and enter code Private at checkout. Fleshlight is the #1 selling male sex toy in the world. Fleshlight is offering Private Parts Unknown listeners 10% off with code PRIVATE. Go to ppupod.com, click Fleshlight, and enter code PRIVATE at checkout. https://linktr.ee/PrivatePartsUnknownAds If you love this episode, please leave us a 5-star rating and sexy review! —> ratethispodcast.com/private  Psst... sign up for our Private Parts Unknown newsletter for bonus content related to our episodes! privatepartsunknown.substack.com Let's be friends on social media! Follow the show on Instagram @privatepartsunknown and Twitter @privatepartsun. Connect with host Courtney Kocak @courtneykocak on Instagram and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today, I interview Renee Bauer who shared her journey from a childhood shadowed by economic hardships to a life of significant achievement. She spent her formative years in an environment where family finances were a constant concern. Her parents tirelessly juggled nighttime jobs, including taking on cleaning medical facilities to ensure stability.Renee, even as a teenager, pitched in with the cleaning efforts, often at the cost of her social life. This part of her life was marred by a deep-seated sense of shame and the need for secrecy; she constructed elaborate tales to her friends about visiting relatives, all to mask the reality of her family's struggles.Renee realized that her issues with money and worthiness, which were deeply ingrained from her childhood, significantly impacted her adult decisions and relationships. Her second marriage was particularly toxic, and she almost stayed in it due to fears about how others would perceive her.Despite the personal challenges, Renee became a successful divorce attorney, dedicating over two decades to her profession.Renee's story is a testament to overcoming early life struggles, breaking cycles of financial and emotional hardship, and achieving professional success while forging a path to help others do the same.__________________Renee Bauer has been a divorce attorney for 20 years. She is the Founder and Managing Attorney of Happy Even After Family Law located in Connecticut. Renee is also a co-Founder to a platform for Tarot Card Readers called The Tarot Bridge.Renee is an international speaker and author. She's just released She Who Wins: Ditch Your Inner Good Girl, Overcome Uncertainty, and Win at Your Life. She has also published Divorce in Connecticut, The Ultimate Guide to Solo and Small Firm Success, and the children's book Percy's Imperfectly Perfect Family.Rene hosts the annual She Who Wins Summit, a live event created to inspire, motivate and challenge women to move forward bravely in their personal and business lives. Her impact has been recognized by Success Magazine where she was nominated as a Woman of Influence and with awards such as Litigator of the Year, Women-Owned Business of the Year, and New Leaders in the Law. She has been featured in multiple media outlets such as the International Business Times, Comment Central, AP News, NBC, FOX, and iHeart Radio.Support the showI'm Dr. Doreen Downing and I help people find their voice so they can speak without fear. Get the Free 7-Step Guide to Fearless Speaking https://www.doreen7steps.com​.

Do you ever think about if it is possible to be “happy even after” something has happened? Renee Bauer, divorce attorney, author, International speaker, and co-founder of The Tarot Bridge joins us for a discussion about perfectionism, her new book: “She Who Wins” and the many stories we tell ourselves about money lack, why we avoid uncomfortable conversations, worthiness, being people pleasers and how it all comes down to gaining clarity and knowing. When we hold on it prevents us from moving forward whether that is with a divorce, career, etc. and we don't want to live with regrets. Renee shares two very key takeaways about 1) Decision points and 2) Acknowledge the excuses. And this fabulous quote by Loverly.com              “ It's so freeing when you stop letting the weight of other people's opinions weigh you down.”# decisionpoints #vulnerability #noregrets #wilempowered  Want to increase your ability to network with anyone like a pro? Join our on-demand Networking: Love it or Hate it webinar to build the skills like a pro, live Q&A sessions monthly, and the opportunity to grow your network. To learn more visit www.wilempowered.com.  

Ready to challenge your concepts about perfection? I promise, that this episode with our guest Renee Bauer, a former perfectionist and now a devoted divorce lawyer, will make you question the notion. As Renee unfolds her journey from a state of constant perfectionism to simply 'being', we explore how she managed her shift in mindset and the impact her mother had on her evolution. In her pursuit of authenticity, Renee opens up about how she navigated through her share of rejections and failures, and yet managed to push forward, without a plan B. Her story is a testament to the power of embracing change, taking action, and finding your true passion. Learn from Renee's wisdom as she shares practical tips on managing multiple roles and how she came to accept that being perfect isn't always possible. Renee also shares her journey into writing and publishing. She talks about how she found her unique voice and how her mother's encouragement played a pivotal role in this pursuit. We discuss the importance of authentic connections and owning one's truth as crucial in creating opportunities. By the end of this episode, you'll be inspired by Renee's unscripted life and her journey to authenticity, change, and the pursuit of dreams. Join us and let Renee's profound insights guide you to question your beliefs and move towards a more conscious and authentic life. Connect with Renee: @msreneebauer Check out her Book: https://shewhowinsbook.com/ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/she-who-wins/id1519600005   Connect with me on IG: @jessicaburgio Looking to start, launch or grow your podcast?? Follow us @mediaunscripted Check out our services: https://www.mediaunscripted.com/ Gut Personal Discount code: www.gutpersonal.com/jessica_10 Grab a copy of my book Come As You Are: The Art of Unbecoming Who They Told You To Be - https://a.co/d/6LSJIjK

Renee Bauer is a divorce attorney, international speaker and author of four books – She Who Wins, Divorce in Connecticut, The Ultimate Guide to Solo and Small Firm Success, and a children's book, Percy's Imperfectly Perfect Family. She hosts the annual She Who Wins Summit, a live event created to inspire, motivate and challenge women to move forward bravely in their personal and business lives. Her impact has been recognized by Success Magazine where she was nominated as a Woman of Influence and with awards such as Litigator of the Year, Women-Owned Business of the Year, and New Leaders in the Law. She has been featured in multiple media outlets such as the International Business Times, Comment Central, AP News, NBC, FOX, and iHeart Radio. In this episode of Last First Date Radio: Why women tend to come out on top post-divorce Why divorced women seek support more often than men Four tips that will help you navigate divorce successfully The most important question you can ask yourself if you're unsure about divorce Connect with Renee Free gift: Get a copy of Renee's new book. To enter, rate and review Last First Date Radio, and send the screenshot to sandy@lastfirstdate.com Sandy will pick a lucky winner to receive She Who Wins! Facebook https://www.facebook.com/renee.c.bauer YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCttlmwiTWIb2k4bIknwm8uQ  Instagram https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/ Website https://msreneebauer.com/ ►Please subscribe/rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts http://bit.ly/lastfirstdateradio  ►If you're feeling stuck in dating and relationships and would like to find your last first date, sign up for a complimentary 45-minute breakthrough session with Sandy https://lastfirstdate.com/application  ►Join Your Last First Date on Facebook https://facebook.com/groups/yourlastfirstdate  ►Get Sandy's books, Becoming a Woman of Value; How to Thrive in Life and Love https://bit.ly/womanofvaluebook  and Choice Points in Dating https://amzn.to/3jTFQe9  ►Get FREE coaching on the podcast! https://bit.ly/LFDradiocoaching  ►FREE download: “Top 10 Reasons Why Men Suddenly Pull Away” http://bit.ly/whymendisappear  ►Group Coaching: https://lastfirstdate.com/the-woman-of-value-club/  ►Website → https://lastfirstdate.com/  ► Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/lastfirstdate1/  ►Get Amazon Music Unlimited FREE for 30 days at getamazonmusic.com/lastfirstdate  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sandy-weiner9/message

Join us as we dive into a fascinating conversation with divorce attorney and author, Renee Bauer. She shares her insights and experiences in the legal field, emphasizing the importance of recognizing red flags in relationships and taking action. Renee addresses the issues of shame, guilt, and people-pleasing, urging women to speak up and let go of the fear of judgment. Discover her passion for tarot card reading and her role in co-founding the Tarot Bridge platform. Explore the significance of self-care, finding balance, and saying no to things that don't bring joy. Renee also delves into her beliefs about money and its connection to spirituality and energy. Lastly, she reveals surprising turn-ons and her love for water's meditative power.   In this episode you'll get to:   ~ Learn from divorce attorney Renee Bauer as she shares her journey and experiences in the legal field. ~ Discover the importance of recognizing red flags in relationships and taking action. ~ Gain insights into overcoming shame, guilt, and people-pleasing by speaking up and letting go of fear. ~ Explore Renee's passion for tarot card reading and her role as a co-founder of the Tarot Bridge platform. ~ Find out how self-care and setting boundaries can help women prioritize their well-being. ~ Understand the significance of saying no to things that don't bring joy and embracing a balanced life. ~ Hear Renee's perspective on money as a spiritual tool and how to shift from a scarcity mindset to abundance. ~ Learn about the concept of conscious uncoupling and the importance of releasing anger and negativity in relationships. ~ Discover Renee's love for water and its meditative power, bringing her into a peaceful state of mind. ~ Be surprised as Renee reveals her initially unexpected turn-on and her changing perspective on motorcycles ;) ~ and much more!     Connect with Renee Bauer Website |    https://msreneebauer.com/ Instagram |     https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/                    Facebook |      https://www.facebook.com/msreneecbauer  Podcast |         https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/she-who-wins/id1519600005       *****     Deborah's Brand New Book! UNDRESSED: An Invitation to Claim Your Erotic Nature   In my brand new book UNDRESSED, I give you the keys, lived experiences, and practices to be a self-possessed, turned ON, erotically alive woman.   This book is a journey to rip the bandage off the shame of being a turned-on woman   You'll learn how to ride through the seven power centers of the body to harness your erotic nature for true self-expression and embodied confidence   You'll accept that you can be a woman who is unafraid to live out loud   Most importantly, you'll harness your Mojo to be a turned-on woman, self-possessed, and become erotically alive.   And when you claim your erotic nature, you give off a magnetic energy.   UNDRESSED is an energetic transmission for confidently claiming your erotic nature.   Pre Order yours now and get $600 worth of Bonuses immediately:   www.undressedbook.com/podcast       *****   Connect with Deborah Website | http://therealundressed.com/ Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/therealundressed/   https://www.instagram.com/deborahkagan/ Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/mojorecoveryspecialist/     Subscribe to The Real Undressed Podcast iTunes | https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-real-undressed-with-deborah-kagan/id1494643770 Spotify | https://open.spotify.com/show/1eOQaw6kryBsXo7Jb6qEnv   Please remember to: è Subscribe è Rate è Review the podcast. I read every single one and your feedback is valuable.  

Join us on this inspiring journey with our guest, Renee Bauer, as she candidly shares her professional and personal transitions. From being a divorce attorney to a law firm owner, speaker, author, and podcast host, Renee's story is a powerful testament to personal growth and transformation. Her book, She Who Wins, embodies her mission to inspire women to take action, no matter how challenging it might seem. Listen as we delve into her thoughts on empowering women to claim their own victories in life, her experiences as a divorce attorney and the life lessons she has learned from her own divorces.https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/https://www.facebook.com/msreneecbauerhttps://twitter.com/msreneebauerhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCttlmwiTWIb2k4bIknwm8uQhttps://msreneebauer.com/Join our exclusive email list and unlock even more valuable insights, expert advice, and bonus content to enhance your relationship superpowers. —sign up HERE today!Connect with Barb BettsInstagram: @barbbettsFacebook: @barbarambettsYouTube: youtube/@barbbettsWebsite: www.barbbetts.comLet's Stay in Touch!https://www.liinks.co/barbbettsBarb Betts is a sought-after keynote speaker, seasoned real estate expert, passionate educator, and the CEO of The RECollective, a thriving boutique brokerage in Southern California. Barb has delighted countless stages including, Inman Connect, WomanUP!, and at the National Association of REALTORS® Annual Conference. Whether she's teaching on referrals, authenticity or leveraging relationships, Barb brings an honest, compassionate, and transparent approach to every single stage. As a real estate professional, with over 20 years experience, Barb has mastered the ever changing real estate landscape and the balance of running a vibrant brokerage. Through her signature course, Real Estate By Relationship®, Barb educates business builders on the exact systems, proc...

We're all looking to win in so many areas of our lives, but it's a challenge to make it all happen. Renowned divorce lawyer, Renee Bauer, is a big advocate of empowering women through divorce and beyond, and her new book "She Who Wins" is full of takeaway advice for women everywhere. It's not a divorce book, but the strategies and tips can be applied as you navigate your divorce and life afterwards. This is a must-listen (and must read!) for anyone! (Guest: Renee Bauer, Divorce Attorney & Author "She Who Wins" https://msreneebauer.com/) Sign up for exEXPERTS in your inbox for weekly updates, events and tips you can't afford to miss! www.exEXPERTS.com. Follow @exEXPERTS on TikTok and Instagram. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/divorceetc/message

Renée Bauer is an attorney, international speaker, accomplished entrepreneur, and personal hype squad for countless women. As the founder of She Who Wins, a business dedicated to helping women crush conventions and live a bold daring life. She hosts live events, Masterminds, and a weekly podcast. Renee has been featured in global media outlets such as the International Business Times, The Washington Newsday, AP News, and iHeart Radio. Being a consummate dreamer and doer, Renee built her law practice Happy Even After Family Law into one of the most recognized and reputable law firms in the state of Connecticut. She earned both Litigator of the Year and Women-Owned Business of the Year awards while also being a changemaker for charitable organizations and a mentor for college women. A former Bostonian, Renee now lives in Connecticut with her big, blended family and rescue pups. She Who Wins on Amazon: https://a.co/d/9dGuLT9 Renee on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/freedomwithfoodandfitness/support

Have you ever wanted to release the "good girl" persona and feel free to show up as the multi-dimensional WHOLE human being you are?  Today's guest asked herself the same question...and let me tell you, what she's brought to life on the other side of that has been nothing short of INCREDIBLE.  Renee Bauer is an international speaker, author of 3 other books – Divorce in Connecticut, The Ultimate Guide to Solo and Small Firm Success, and the children's book Percy's Imperfectly Perfect Family. She hosts the annual She Who Wins Summit, a live event created to inspire, motivate and challenge women to move forward bravely in their personal and business lives. Her impact has been recognized by Success Magazine where she was nominated as a Woman of Influence and with awards such as Litigator of the Year, Women-Owned Business of the Year, and New Leaders in the Law. She has been featured in multiple media outlets such as the International Business Times, Comment Central, AP News, NBC, FOX, and iHeart Radio. I can't wait for you to listen!  Links Mentioned:  Purchase your copy of She Who Wins today! Learn more about Renee's work on her website: msreneebauer.com Follow her over on Instagram: @msreneebauer Listen to She Who Wins: The Podcast Purchase your ticket to the IGNITE Your Business Live Retreat! Tag me in your big shifts + takeaways: @amberlilyestrom Did you hear something you loved here today?! Leave a Review + Subscribe via iTunes   

Do you ever find yourself stuck and you can't seem to make a decision? Chances are it happens often and it can impact your business if you don't find ways to help you move forward. In this week's episode, Renee Bauer, shares her Stop, Drop & Roll method that will help you make decisions with confidence and clarity. We also talk about: How divorce led her to entrepreneurship  Navigating self-doubt  Comparison to others and how it effects us What winning feels like for her Plus Renee is giving away a book bundle for the first 5 people who share a message with Renee on Instagram. She will send you a copy of her book: She Who Wins and my book: Why Not You.  Resources Mentioned:  Renee's Book Website: https://shewhowinsbook.com/ Renee's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/   Renee's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/msreneecbauer  All podcast episodes: https://pod.link/1473751874 Amanda's Website: https://www.amandamckinney.com/ Amanda's Coaching Options: https://www.amandamckinney.com/coaching Amanda's Book: https://www.amandamckinney.com/book

Apply to the Girl on Fire mastermind here.   Get your ticket to the NYC Summit here.   Have you ever felt really excited about a big move in your business or your career but then immediately talked yourself out of it? Or maybe you felt super clear and then suddenly felt unsure about whether or not to move forward? In today's episode I'm helping you get out of your own way so you can stop sabotaging your best ideas and start living the life you are meant to live. Today's episode is sponsored by award winning divorce attorney, entrepreneur and recovered good girl, Renee Bauer. Renee was our recent guest on the last episode and she is just FABULOUS. If you are looking for your next book to read - look no further. She Who Wins is Renee's brand new book and it is SO good. This book is for every woman who was told to smile, to quiet down, and to shrink themselves into the smallest version of themselves. Grab your copy here.

In this brand new episode of the Generation Wealth podcast, I interview  Renee Bauer is an experienced divorce attorney, entrepreneur, author and founder of She Who Wins.Throughout this interview,  Renée Bauer and I talk about choosing to stay in or leave a relationship, following your gut feeling and the consequences of disregarding it, women's financial independence, being truthful and overcoming remorse and so much more…Hit that share button to share this episode and don't forget to subscribe and leave a review. I'll see you on the next one!In This Episode, We Talk About:00:00 Intro00:42 Red Flags in Relationships04:17 Embracing Hard Choices in Relationships06:45 Listening to Your Gut Instinct09:30 Fine as a Four-letter Word13:20 What is She Who Wins About?17:15 Why Women Avoid Involvement in Marital Finances20:56 Getting Out of Shame24:41 Releasing Expectations28:42 Having No Regrets30:21 Getting Past Your Own Version of BS33:51 The Definition of WealthConnect With Me:FacebookInstagramLinkedInTwitterTikTokYouTubeSubscribe To The Podcast Here:Apple PodcastsSpotifyYouTubeGet My Online Course Here: https://www.candyvalentino.com/Apply For My Founders Mentorship Group To Get Personalized Guidance To Unlock Your Next Level of Profit, Wealth, Freedom Here: https://foundersorganization.com/Order My #1 Bestselling Book “WEALTH HABITS” Here: https://wealthhabitsbook.com/Connect With Renée Bauer:Website: https://msreneebauer.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rbauer1/Twitter: https://twitter.com/msreneebauerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/reneebauer

If you've been building your brand for a while, and you have a nagging feeling like – there's something more for me, like you are BURNT OUT on what you've been doing and you're REALLY interested in something else, then this episode is for you.   OR, maybe you just started out and you feel like you chose the wrong niche, or you're going in the wrong direction. Things just don't feel aligned? Then this episode is for you.   Either way, if you are ready to pivot, to expand yourself, and to try something new, then I'm going to share with you 3 tips for a successful (and fun) BRAND PIVOT.   Today's episode is sponsored by award winning divorce attorney, entrepreneur and recovered good girl, Renee Bauer. Renee was our recent guest on the last episode and she is just FABULOUS. If you are looking for your next book to read - look no further. She Who Wins is Renee's brand new book and it is SO good. This book is for every woman who was told to smile, to quiet down, and to shrink themselves into the smallest version of themselves. Grab your copy here.      

Renee Bauer, international speaker, 20 year divorce attorney veteran, and author, joins the Journey to Launch podcast to discuss the logistics of divorce, why most marriage problems are worthiness problems, and how to protect yourself even in a loving relationship. We also chat about prioritizing yourself, setting healthy boundaries, and how Renee became an entrepreneur.  In this episode you'll learn more about: How to have uncomfortable money conversations with your partner The realities of asset splitting in divorce and prenups and postnups Why you need to create a “No List” Recovering from being a people please, the “Stop, Drop, and Roll” framework, honoring your gut instincts, and more Other Links Mentioned in episode: Check Out Renee's Book Get The Budget Bootcamp for FREE Pre-order my new book, Your Journey to Financial Freedom and get access to FIRE STARTER Course for FREE Check out my personal website here. Join The Weekly Newsletter List Leave me a voicemail– Leave me a question on the Journey To Launch voicemail and have it answered on the podcast! YNAB –  Start managing your money and budgeting so that you can reach your financial dreams. Sign up for a free 34 days trial of YNAB, my go-to budgeting app by using my referral link. What stage of the financial journey are you on? Are you working on financial stability or work flexibility? Find out with this free assessment and get a curated list of the 10 next best episodes for you to listen to depending on your stage. Check it out here! Connect with Renee: Website: MsReneeBauer.com Instagram:@MsReneeBauer Facebook:@MsReneecBauer Twitter:@MsReneeBauer Connect with me: Instagram: @Journeytolaunch Twitter: @JourneyToLaunch Facebook: @Journey To Launch Join the Private Facebook Group Join the Waitlist for My FI Course Get The Free Jumpstart Guide Get The Budget Bootcamp for FREE

Today I have Renee Bauer back on the show - a previous guest that I absolutely adore. Renee's tough love approach to life and love is sure to snap you out of victim mode, help you ditch your inner good girl, and finally start designing the life you deserve. As a divorce attorney, speaker, and author, Renee helps women overcome uncertainty, let go of unhealthy relationships, and step into their power. Pour a glass of wine and get ready to get your butt kicked in the best way! Pre-order Renee's book, She Who Wins, here. Be sure to send me a DM @TheChampagneDiet and let me know your biggest takeaway from this episode to be entered to win a deck of Renee's affirmation cards!

On this episode of TIWW, we're going to talk about ditching your inner “good girl” as well as some other uncomfortable truths that are holding us back from truly winning in life. Here to help us do that is Renee Bauer, Founder and Managing Attorney of “Happy Even After” Family Law, an international speaker, and author of 5 books, including her new book that's about to be released and is already a bestseller “She Who Wins” (described as an ANTI-rule book, which you know I love). She hosts the She Who Wins podcast as well as the She Who Wins Annual Summit, a live event created to inspire, motivate and challenge women to move forward bravely in their personal and business lives. Clearly, Renee is committed to getting more women to WIN, and I'm here for it. Renee says this: There is a fierce woman fighting to get out. She is YOU. For every woman who was told to smile, to quiet down, and to shrink themselves into the smallest version of themselves. For every woman who is struggling to make a life-altering decision or wondering “what's next”. For every woman who thinks this is as good as it gets. For every woman who has felt like there has to be more. For every woman who feels like she doesn't have a right to complain or who feels selfish for even questioning her happiness. There's a good girl within who is READY to become that fierce woman who's fighting to get out. To connect with Renee: Website: https://msreneebauer.com IG: @msreneebauer  Book: https://shewhowinsbook.com To join Nicole's pod (to get all the inside scoops, free stuff, and the occasional rant), click here

Navigating Entreprenuership with Renee Bauer Hosted by: James Patrick   Is this true for you? Who you are at the beginning of your entrepreneurial journey is not who you are 3 months, or 6 months, or 3 years into the process. As you shift in this journey, perhaps those in your circle may not recognize the person you have become. This could be even more delicate when that individual is a significant other.    We're going to dive into this today and how to navigate through that. My guest today is Renee Bauer, a divorce attorney. “Those who have a higher education and those who are  entrepreneurs do have a higher rate of divorce.” IN THIS EPISODE The work Renee does as a lawyer that goes far beyond paperwork. How Renee's personal story has impacted her career. Why divorce rates may be higher for entrepreneurs. Simple communication within your relationships that can save them. Setting boundaries. The perspective of the person who isn't the entrepreneur in the relationship. Bringing your partner into your journey. Red flags to be aware of. The importance of taking care of yourself and knowing who you are. Stepping into the best version of you. Connect with James  Website: jamespatrick.com Instagram: @jpatrickphoto Text me marketing questions @: 480-605-3254    Connect with Renee Book: shewhowinsbook.com Instagram @msreneebauer Share this podcast with a friend and remember to leave a 5-star review!  For more, visit jamespatrick.com  

MEMORABLE MOMENTS “Whenever you're at a crossroads…how do you make the change from just wanting it, to actually changing something? It's all about getting clear on what you want, recognizing what's holding you back, and being strategic about taking action.” (5:00) “What winning means could be totally different than what you think. The outcome will always be exactly what you need even when it is not necessarily what you want.” “We have to drop the thought that we can do everything all at once. Recognize that there are seasons of life, and you should always be assessing your priorities to determine what to focus on, and when, in order to avoid burnout.” “Confidence is  making really hard decisions and not doubting them after the fact. Knowing that if you are acting from a place of alignment and intuition, the decision is absolutely the right one.” Connect with Renee:⭐Connect on Instagram: @msreneebauer⭐Renee's upcoming book: https://shewhowinsbook.com/ Connect with Allison:⭐ Connect on Instagram @allisonwalsh⭐ JOIN OUR FREE COMMUNITY: https://www.facebook.com/groups/shebelievedshecouldcommunity⭐ Check out book recommendations from the show here⭐ Download your free 90 day planner here

Avoiding some tough conversations? Let's get you the tools, approach, words, and mindset needed to confidently address the most challenging topics. Joined by guest Renee Bauer, an experienced divorce attorney and speaker, we help you tackle soured friendships, support loved ones in abusive relationships, talk to aging parents about finances, and face marital difficulties with grace and strength. Timestamps:[00:02:54] Tough conversations. [00:06:09] Unlearning cultural expectations[00:09:43] Not every relationship needs saving[00:11:38] Feeling worthy and taking action[00:15:08] Handling conflict and name calling[00:19:05] Recategorizing friendships[00:23:15] Protecting yourself and setting boundaries[00:25:17] Boundaries and self-care[00:29:29] Tough conversations and family dynamics[00:32:11] Confronting mental illness or substance abuse[00:35:07] Lessons from past relationships[00:39:31] Choosing happiness after divorce[00:43:08] Surprisingly True Useful Fun Fact #2Renee Bauer's Contact:WebsiteIGReferences mentioned:BOLD Challenge - 4 days, 4 prompts, FREE, and effectiveGet on my email list for series on time, energy, and relationshipsEffective Collective - Mastermind for overfunctioning/high-performing mothers to go from over-functioning to audaciously alignedLowering blood pressureRoad trips and snacking studyALLISON HARE'S LINKS:EFFECTIVE COLLECTIVE MOTHER MASTERMIND: Schedule a free exploratory call here.AllisonHare.com - Late Learner Podcast, personal journal and blog, danceInstagram - Steps to heal yourself, move society forward, and slinging memes and dancing (seriously, Allison is also a dance fitness instructor)Late Learner IGYouTube ChannelBlog - quick, way more personal, deeper topics - make sure to subscribeTikTok - documenting my journey one lo-fi video at a timeReb3l Dance Fitness - Try it at home! Free month with this link.Personal Brand - need help building yours? Schedule a call with me here and let's discuss.Feedback and Contact:: allison@allisonhare.com

This week I have my dear friend, Renee Bauer on to talk all about choosing your own adventure. We talk all about how to choose your own adventure when you feel stuck in your life and know that there is more than this. We've all hit a point where things just don't feel aligned, your life feels stagnant and you're dying to make a change. But, fear stops you. Today's episode dives into what that is and how to make real, effective change in how to choose your own adventure and live a life more aligned. Find us:https://shewhowins.com/https://www.instagram.com/jackiebrubaker/https://loveyouevenmore.com/Support the show

Welcome to the SYNC Your Life podcast episode #153! On this podcast, we will be diving into all things women's hormones to help you learn how to live in alignment with your female physiology. Too many women are living with their check engine lights flashing. You know you feel "off" but no matter what you do, you can't seem to have the energy, or lose the weight, or feel your best. This podcast exists to shed light on the important topic of healthy hormones and cycle syncing, to help you gain maximum energy in your life.  In today's episode, I'm interviewing Renee Bauer, Divorce Attorney and Amazon #1 bestselling author of "She Who Wins." We talk about what it looks like to stay comfortable in a relationship and what most women are afraid of when it comes to leaving toxic relationships, whether marital or friendship.  Renee has been a divorce attorney for 20 years, and is the Founder and Managing Attorney of Happy Even After Law located in Connecticut. She is an international speaker, author of 3 other books – Divorce in Connecticut, The Ultimate Guide to Solo and Small Firm Success, and the children's book Percy's Imperfectly Perfect Family. She hosts the annual She Who Wins Summit, a live event created to inspire, motivate and challenge women to move forward bravely in their personal and business lives. Her impact has been recognized by Success Magazine where she was nominated as a Woman of Influence and with awards such as Litigator of the Year, Women-Owned Business of the Year, and New Leaders in the Law. She has been featured in multiple media outlets such as the International Business Times, Comment Central, AP News, NBC, FOX, and iHeart Radio. You can find her book, "She Who Wins," here. You can follow her on social media here. If you feel like something is "off" with your hormones, check out the FREE hormone imbalance quiz at sync.jennyswisher.com.  To learn more about the SYNC Digital Course, check out jennyswisher.com.  Let's be friends outside of the podcast! Send me a message or schedule a call so I can get to know you better. You can reach out at https://jennyswisher.com/contact-2/. Enjoy the show! Episode Webpage: jennyswisher.com/podcast 

Today I am chatting with my friend Renee Bauer. It's a juicy one! We dive into what it means to be a recovering "good girl" and how it's holding you and other women back in life. Renee and I both give examples where this has been true in our lives. We talk through just because something is hard, doesn't mean it's not right and also the positive that comes with rejection. Renee shares about her Stop, Drop, and Roll Framework and how if you use it, you will win at life. I can't wait to hear what golden nuggets you take from this episode after you listen!!Connect with Renee:Instagram @msreneebauerShe Who Wins podcast Renee's new book : She Who WinsCheck out all the ways we can work together!https://www.jennaklopfenstein.com/If we're not connected on Instagram yet, please come say Hi! @jenna.klopfenstein

Renee Bauer joins me to discuss the financial side of relationships and offer some advice on how to make your relationship successful from the beginning. Many couples tend to avoid difficult conversations early on in their relationships as they don't like the discomfort it brings, but Renee advocates for pushing through these challenges early on for the greatest chance of long-term success.   Ms. Renée Bauer is an award-winning divorce attorney, published author, and founder of the Happy Even After Family Law. With almost two decades of experience, Renée is committed to empowering all women to redefine their sense of peace and purpose in their new life.    As an individual that has litigated, and been through divorces personally, Renee brings a very valuable perspective on making your relationship successful, without having a pessimistic outlook. I believe that incorporating some of her advice can help all of us smooth over some of the common challenges and succeed in our relationships.   What you'll hear in this episode: [3:45] Who is Renee Bauer? [6;43] How did Renee handle being surrounded by a specific energy of people getting divorced while also going through it in her personal life at the same time? [9:56] How do we prepare ourselves for what may come in marriage, without pessimism in our own marriage? [12:42] How do you recommend couples initiate the conversation of money early in their relationship, especially if it is an uncomfortable topic for them? [14:18] The importance of both parties being involved in managing the money in your relationship. [17:30] What are some other things you can do to ensure a financially happy healthy marriage, aside from open communication? [23:49] What does Renee recommend for how to set up bank accounts in a relationship? [32:39] How do you navigate the idea that it may be time to end one chapter and move on to the next?   Connect with Renee: @msreneebauer shewhowinsbook.com - Sept 5   * Related episodes: Do You Take Time to Appreciate Success? with Amanda McKinney Synching Your Business with Your Cycle with Melissa Rodriguez Defining Your Vision for a Financially Free Life with Brian Luebben   * Find everything you need at https://www.keepwhatyouearn.com * Questions about this episode? Text me!: https://my.community.com/shannonweinsteincpa * Hire us: https://www.fitnancialsolutions.com/accounting * See how much you can save with an S Corp: https://www.keepwhatyouearn.com/keep-what-you-earn-s-corp-calculator * Find me on IG https://www.instagram.com/shannonkweinstein/ * Meet me face-to-face on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMlIuZsrllp1Uc_MlhriLvQ * Featured in Yahoo Finance! Read more here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-bookkeepers-accountants-watch-2021-113800161.html     The information contained in this podcast is intended for educational purposes only and is not individual tax advice. Please consult a qualified professional before implementing anything you learn.

Lesley and Brad share their key takeaways from their conversation with Jay Twining, the creator of the Feel Good Fatherhood podcast. Discover how to transform mundane small talk into profound interactions, fostering lasting relationships and how men can better understand their emotions, enabling them to express them effectively and meaningfully.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:What craniosacral therapy is.Why a person can be alone but not lonely.How can one get into a deep conversation and build a relationship?Vulnerability and how to identify and express emotions effectively.The importance of having outlets to express emotions.Why communication is key to a successful relationship.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Pilates RetreatOPC WorkshopsContrology Pilates ConferenceDr. Alyssa Desena, Naturopathic DoctorFollow Dr. Alyssa Desena on Tik Tok  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Get your 15% discount for Toe Sox – use coupon code LESLEY15Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript: Lesley Logan: [00:00:00] Emotional self-control is something that is actually attractive in us and something that's expected of us as fathers and men in particular today. And I think you know that, that like the emotional self-control can be like a clamp around them, you know? Mm-hmm. And so there's moments where it can be okay to be vulnerable and other times where you do have to keep it together.Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. [00:01:00] Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Interview Recap, where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the devoted convo I had with Jay Twining in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to this interview, feel free to pause now. Go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us.You guys, this is coming out around the Father's Day weekend in the US and so I thought the devoted father episode should be around the same weekend, if Father's Day is a different day where you live, then there's a method to this madness and, and you should still enjoy it right now cause we're talking about it right now.Today is well it's June 15th. If you're listening real time, and I love this, my team put some notes. It's sneak a kiss day. But if you want to, we could talk about World Elder Abuse Awareness Day instead. And it's like, well... Brad Crowell: I kept trying to find something that was like Father-like, and the only father-like thing was Elder Abuse Awareness Day. I was like, that's dark as f. Lesley Logan: So here's [00:02:00] the deal. If you're gonna sneak a kiss, make sure you have the c onsent of the person you're sneaking a kiss from, period. Brad Crowell: Fair, fair, fair. Lesley Logan: However, we should talk about world elder abuse because it is an international holiday and also I don't think we have to actually know how this works.And the truth is, is that depend on where you live in this world, there might not be an actual enough places for your elderly families to be at. If you live in the States, I'm talking to you, there's just not enough places for our our family folks to be at, and it's really, really important that you understand what is happening when they're there and that you are an advocate for them. So please take some time to talk with the elders in your life about what they would like their life to be like and what they would like you to do, and make sure there's some communication around that. Brad's been doing a bunch of stuff about it, like our death shit, and it's important.It's important to have living will. It's important to talk about this, and it's also important if you see a bruise on people like. Investigate. They have thin skin. Brad Crowell: But yeah, I mean, it's, it's the thing when you think elder [00:03:00] abuse awareness, it's sometimes it's family directly, you know? And that could be neglect, that could be actual abuse and maybe like they're, your in-laws living with you or your family member's older and living with you, but it could also be from a facility that they're in.Lesley Logan: Yeah. There was a, there's a, there was a facility. Well, many facilities actually. I have friends who work in the industry and there was this one facility that was like drugging these certain elderly patients of a type of illness to basically like make 'em catatonic so they wouldn't have to deal with them.Right. And that is abuse. They don't need to be on that medication. So, and it is so hard once they're in there. So please make sure that if your family, your parents are not yet in that stage, make sure you know what the insurances are gonna allow them to do. Make sure you have a conversation and make sure you have this preparedness happening because you don't, it's, that would be the worst thing to discover.Brad Crowell: Well, I also find it's strange, not [00:04:00] that I'm an expert on this, but I just think it's weird how we as Americans don't really... Lesley Logan: ...take care of our elderly? We just put 'em in a, we put 'em in a home. Brad Crowell: Well, I was, yeah. Yeah. But I, but I was gonna say, we don't respect the elderly culturally. Lesley Logan: I know. In Cambodia it's so different.Brad Crowell: It's so different in Cambodia. Lesley Logan: Everyone takes care of grandma hack, everybody.Brad Crowell: In Cambodian culture, if you're old, you are like, revered, you know, and like your... Your community takes care of you. It's not just your family. Lesley Logan: And also, like, everyone's a little bit afraid of grandma. Brad Crowell: Maybe, I guess, but, but...Lesley Logan: It's in a good way, you know?Brad Crowell: Well, it's, there's a, there's like a lot of, it's a different perspective, you know, like here, it's like we hit, you know, mid, late seventies and then, you know, we're too busy for them or something and it's just weird, you know, it's a very different lifestyle. Lesley Logan: You know, also like I don't blame the people who've ignored their family members a certain age who have [00:05:00] opposite beliefs of them. So then that's hard. Brad Crowell: There's that too. Lesley Logan: Yeah, because like, it's hard. It's, it was, I mean we talked about this in the podcast. It was so hard whenever I'd call my grandfather and he's like, just waiting to die. And it's like, well, I think I'm gonna stop calling you cuz that's hurting my mental health. So it just, look, I say this as it is so hard, this is not something I wanna talk about.But it is important, at least be aware of the elders in your life and make sure that they have care or you know, what the plans are for care. And then be curious if there are bruises or anything going on, trust your gut on that and be aware of it. It's a world elder abuse day, and if that depresses the fuck out of you, like it does me, then sneak a kiss from someone who's okay with you kissing them.All right, onto the next thing that's happening in this world. Brad Crowell: Webinars.Lesley Logan: June 21st. We're doing a webinar if you wanna know how to convert first time clients. This is for you, y'all. Brad Crowell: This is a Profitable Pilates webinar. Lesley Logan: ​It's also the first thing I ever did in coaching teachers [00:06:00] around business.It's like literally the reason why I started coaching people in business is because someone was like, how come you have so many so many clients? How come every person who comes in for a first session becomes a client who buys a big package? And I was like isn't that my job? And then I realized it's so hard for people.So this is actually how I became a coach. So it's gonna be amazing is what I'm saying. It's 13 years of awesomeness that you're gonna get for like, if you get it early, 25 bucks if you get it late, 37 bucks. Hello. Amazing. Go to the link of the show notes for that. And then in July we're gonna be in the UK. We're gonna be in Leeds and we're gonna have a couple spots left on our mullet tour. Brad Crowell: Yeah, there's only a few left. It's amazing. I'm very excited. So, if you're on the fence, Don't, don't wait because there's limited seats just because of the space in the studio.Lesley Logan: So, thanks Clare Sparrow for hosting us and we can't wait to be there. Go to opc.me/uk for that. And then in August, we're doing our West Coast tour, so hello, California, Oregon, [00:07:00] Washington. And then, I don't know, something on the way home, I'm sure. But go to opc.me/tour to make sure you are, you hear about all the cities we stop at.We're getting all the cities nailed down, locked in and loaded. And we're so freaking stoked. Bringing the dogs. Brad Crowell: We should have some more news actually in like a week. Lesley Logan: Yeah. Yeah. Technically in real time we'll probably have the news happening. Brad Crowell: No, from this one, when this is out. Lesley Logan: Oh, a week from this. Okay. Cool. Goals. September will be in Poland. Sign up, contrologypilatesconference.com. So there's a wonderful host who is bringing in Contrology equipment to Poland. She's bringing in a couple of us teachers there. We're doing a lot of amazing workshops and yes, we're bringing the flashcards so. Get your Thasses there because this, this might be my only time in the next couple years hitting that up. So we'll see you there. And of course, in October there is still time to join us in Cambodia on our retreat. We have a few spots left. Our house is basically full, so we, if you are like, don't use it as an excuse to [00:08:00] not come grab the last spots. We know how many we can have and it's gonna be a lot of fun. You don't wanna miss this one. Brad Crowell: Oh, we have a great group already coming. And, and seriously... Lesley Logan: Amazing ladies. Brad Crowell: Yeah. And we got a mom and daughter couple coming. Lesley Logan: And we might have a husband and wife, so that's so fun. Brad Crowell: We have besties coming and I'm pretty sure the husband's not gonna do the Pilates on that, so that's an option too for y'all. Who have a partner who isn't into Pilates. That's okay. Yeah. They can join us for all the food and the fun and the tours and, you know, the experience. It's a lovely vacation. Even if they're not there for the workshops. Lesley Logan: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And you know what? I just can't wait. We just kept back from Korea and I already miss the humidity. Like I miss it. My lips are chapped all the time. Yeah. I wanna get back. I wanna get back to Asia. Brad Crowell: It's also getting drier here right now. It's like really? I noticed it. You know, really strong in the last week, like I know, but our cactus, soon as we got home I was like, oh yeah, it's dry. But then like over a week later, I'm like, whoa.Lesley Logan: Yeah, but your cactus looks phenomenal. Oh my gosh. They've all doubled in size. Brad Crowell: [00:09:00] Yeah. It's incredible. Yeah. The really insane growth and beautiful flowers this year. Lesley Logan: Yeah. But that's, that's actually not what comes next. So, no, we first have an audience question. Brad Crowell: We do. This is a long one. So bear with me here. This one's from Cassie Bernard, and she says, listening to this episode completes a line in the O P C Go challenge for me, which was O P C. We did this awesome bingo style game. And she said, I'm curious about the term Jenny used "nutraceuticals". Is this a compilation list found on the Institute for Functional Medicine?Since menopause hit me like a Mac truck in 2020, I've become my own expert like Jenny, researching so much information, books, resources, podcasts, talk to my doctor, and started hormone replacement therapy about seven months ago. It's amazing how so many of the things that you both mentioned, trouble sleeping, digestion, digestion, stress confined solutions in non-pharmaceutical treatments. I too had infertility issues [00:10:00] for years in traditional medicine techniques to try and conceive until I learned about, bear with me here, craniosacral therapy. Craniosacral therapy. Love this conversation about exploring beyond, do you have any podcast interviews about craniosacral therapies?Lesley Logan: So actually we actually, after I saw this question, I was in Connecticut and I got a craniosacral session for myself, and I was just there and they were doing craniosacral and I'm like, hi. Hi, I have an audience member who has a question. Can I get a craniosacral massage? And also, would you mind answering this question?So, in a moment, our voices are going to go away and our amazing team is going to edit in a audio answer from Alyssa, who is a craniosacral massage therapist off out of Connecticut. And we'll have all of her links in the show notes below. I'm so excited. Brad Crowell: Y eah. That's so cool. Before we go to that clip though just some definitions for anyone who was listening to that going, I don't know what the fuck any of those words mean.[00:11:00] Nutraceuticals is actually food that has, cont it contains health giving additives and having medicinal benefits. So that's nutraceuticals is food. Craniosacral therapy is a gentle hands-on technique that uses a light touch to examine membranes and movement of the fluids in and around the central nervous system.So around the head and the the neck. Is that right? That's what happened? Lesley Logan: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the whole body, so C S T referred to, so I'm super excited for Alyssa to answer this question in just a moment. I'm so excited for you to have that. I don't know, in our team's editing, so I'm just gonna keep talking.As far as Jenny, I love her. And her advice here. You know, as far as non-pharmaceutical options, Brad actually used to be in a company where they experienced not being able to like, get FDA approval. Yeah. On a drug that could have helped people who had herpes sores around their mouth because it was an all natural product.Brad Crowell: [00:12:00] Yeah. It got fucked up the way that the, the government allows you to patent things and to for, you know, the formulas in medicines. So there was a scientist doctor who figured out how he could use plants to solve to attack the herpes virus. So there's this company that I used to work with where there was a doctor scientist who had figured out some parts of some plants that could actually help humans battle herpes one, two, and three. So like three is shingles, herpes one and two are, you know what, you know, but the, the... Lesley Logan: Do you know what my, my sex ed teacher said to me? And his daughter was in my class. He said it used to be the herpes one was up here and herpes too was down there, but then everyone got creative and now herpes one and two are, are happening everywhere. That's, that was explained to me in high school and my friend who was his daughter was like, I'm so embarrassed.[00:13:00] Anyways, keep going. Brad Crowell: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Picking it back up. So what actually happened was they figured out a formula that's all natural and they tried to get it approved by the fda and they couldn't because there were no chemicals in it that they could actually , you know, patent. And so it became this crazy journey to then like insert unneeded chemicals into this all natural product just so they could get a patent on it. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. So eventually everything stopped because, what the fuck? Lesley Logan: Yeah. So anyways, Cassie definitely, you know, continue your journey on figuring out what works for you because when it does come to menopause, it does. Ah, like perimenopause does.It's very personal approach and you do have to try out different things. And if you listen to the last recap, we actually talked about some books for that. And then as far as craniosacral goes I know you don't live in Connecticut, so Alyssa might not be your person, but take a listen to her. Reach out to her.There's gotta be somebody else. The Yeah. Reach out to her and and we'll work on getting some other full episodes on that, but I just didn't want you to wait until we could get [00:14:00] someone in to record them, cuz it might be months from now. So here is her amazing advice.Cassie Bernard: What is cranial sacro therapy? So cranial sacral therapy is a gentle hands-on technique that's used to assess your essential nervous system and your body's fascia. Your fascia is a connective tissue that lines every organ, every muscle, every bone, and every neuron in your body. And so sometimes the, this body's fascia can get tight and wound up and it needs some, um, help and relieving some tension.And your central nervous system is made up. Of your brain and your spinal cord. So we're really using cranial sacral therapy to assess what's going on in that central nervous system, and also feeling the movements of the bones of the skull, something that isn't really talked about much. Those bones are constantly moving and sometimes when the body's fascia is a little bit tight, um, and there's some tension there, it can hinder some movement of those bones, and [00:15:00] certain symptoms can show up like migraines or headaches, or even tmj.So those are gonna be some conditions that cranial sacro therapy is really helpful in relieving. And if you also have a history of trauma, uh, maybe P T S D, um, have past surgery, can also create some scar tissue and help in wind up that body's fascia. And so we really see, um, that emotions can be stored in the body's fascia as well, and that can cause some issues.With the connective tissue in its movement. So cranial sacral therapy can be very helpful in those conditions. It's also very helpful in chronic headaches or migraines also, um, TMJ or, um, chronic pain, fibromyalgia, anxiety, or depression, it can be very helpful for those conditions because we're assessing the body's.Um, sometimes when we're assessing, um, there can be a misalignment and. Relieving [00:16:00] some of that tension can help with some of those symptoms. And in terms of perimenopause, it can be very helpful if you're experiencing any mood changes, anxiety or depression because we really are working to support the central nervous system and support the um, parasympathetic nervous system specifically, which is our rest and digest center.Many of us don't spend enough time in that part of our nervous system. So supporting it can be very helpful and stimulating that part of the nervous system can be very helpful as well in relieving some of those mood changes in perimenopause. I really hope this was helpful and answered some of your questions about cranial sacral therapy.If you're looking for a cranial sacral therapist, A quick Google search of cranial sacral therapist near me can be helpful. You're looking for somebody who's certified in cranial sacral therapy. They may be a massage therapist, a physical therapist. Also, naturopathic doctors like me can also perform cranial sacral therapy as well.So, um, I really hope this was [00:17:00] helpful and I definitely recommend getting, um, giving cranial sacral therapy a try.Lesley Logan: And we'll be right back.Brad Crowell: Okay. Now let's talk about Jay Twining. As a past game designer who made the decision not to repeat his own father's mistakes, Jay Twining is an example of a father navigating his career and parenting. He now works as a personal brand strategist.And is a creator of the Feel Good Fatherhood podcast. And he highlights honest conversations with men about fatherhood. Lesley Logan: Yeah, it's kind of like the fitness guys we've had. So like, just another, I think it's cool that there's some dudes out there going, Hey, we actually wanna be vulnerable and we wanna have deeper conversations. Wouldn't that be cool? I think it's really awesome. Brad Crowell: I totally agree. And also the last, the interview with Jay was like, yeah, we talked about his pod, but actually we talked mostly about his story. Lesley Logan: I know. Oh, I love the journey. Brad Crowell: How he came to the decision [00:18:00] of, you know, what the pod was and then you know, where he is today and what he's doing now. And the struggle that he went through to having achieved his like personal goal and then realizing that the achieving of that goal is actually wrecking his life. Lesley Logan: Well, and also since we interviewed him, he and his family were able to like sell their house Yeah. And move to Nashville. And now he is supporting the family so his wife can go figure out what she wants to do because...Brad Crowell: Yeah, they've been able to flip. Lesley Logan: She's, yeah, they've been flipping it. So I think it's just, this is like a really pretty cool, I think it's really cool because like in relationships, like who said, it's like 50 50 and then I watched up the view for one second and this, and this one woman who's whose name is for like escaping me, but she's like, it's 90 10, 90% someone, 10% the other.But the point is that it shouldn't be 90% always one person. Like it switches back and forth. Yeah. And I. And I think I think that makes a lot of sense. So anyways I really enjoyed this conversation. I actually wanted to bring [00:19:00] up the part where he said, it's totally fine for you to be alone. What is not okay is for you to feel lonely. And that was from another game developer when he was working. And I just really enjoyed this because I think that like we, it can get confusing about like, should we, like how much time we should be spending with people. Like what should we be doing? Like how busy should we be?You know, like some people are like too busy to die, like everyone's just really busy or then they're like, they do nothing. They, the pendulum swings so far away and, and it's important to like acknowledge like, I am alone in this moment, but I am not lonely and like understanding what your feelings are.As you're going, as you're going through it. So I really like that. And then he also said that he tried to come up with the five questions that help you can build, that can help you build a relationship with anybody. So like, you know, Brad, you've been in sales, I've been in sales. Like you start to buy rejection, learn what, like the best things and the easiest things are to get [00:20:00] information about what people want.You know, like what people are, what people are motivated by, what people are interested in talking about. Like you get really good at that when you are in a job that's a sub solve service industry job, like at a restaurant or in a store. And so if you've never had those jobs, you might not have these skill sets, but start to pay attention to what questions light you up when you answer them. Like if someone asks you a question you can't, you like are like, wow. Yeah, no one's ever asked me that before. Write these things down in notes in your phone because he was like, have these top five questions because it allows you to be in a room with anybody and really get into a deep conversation with someone. And start to build a relationship because we all need friendships in this world, and they're gonna come in a variety of places, but like, you know, oftentimes we'll be like, how are you? I'm good. How are you? Great. What do you doing? How you doing today? Great. Oh, the weather still alive. Let's talk about them cowboys, blah, blah, blah. Boring, boring, boring. Brad Crowell: I think I, and the, the reality is it's easy to deflect. You know, with, with like superficial top level questions and [00:21:00] answers like that. But getting deeper definitely takes practice. You know, it's like you can still like think through it and be prepared and then when you're in the moment, you're like blank and you forget, you know? So in order to, you have to be intentional about the conversation. Lesley Logan: And it means you have to actually listen. Brad Crowell: Yeah, but you could be listening and they're doing superficial shit is my point. So like, you know, if you want, you know, having a list of questions is great idea because it allows you to steer the conversation to a deeper place where you can get to know them well.Lesley Logan: And also if you don't wanna talk about work, then make sure your questions to them don't have to do with their work. Because the reciprocity game is that if you ask 'em about what they do, they are going to ask most likely what you do. Yeah. So if you don't wanna do that, You have to talk about like, oh my gosh, what are your, like, what are your favorite restaurants?Or we just moved here. Like, you know, where, where do you go for date night? Where do you go to like, just like relax. Where do you go to just like get in touch with [00:22:00] nature? Oh my gosh. They might go, oh wow, I haven't gotten in touch with nature in 10 years. You could have a deep conversation about that. You know, so like, it's okay, you know, I like, I, these are just, I thought these were practical tips.I really enjoyed it. What did you love? Brad Crowell: Yeah, so he said part of the feel good fatherhood. Is really being in touch with what's happening on the inside, knowing that you have an emotion and that you know how to handle it. And he, he was a really talking a lot about anger and how that's like a built-in response.Mostly you know, and, and we don't realize that that's a natural response but letting that, you know, carry through. It's important to feel the feels, but also you can't just freak out and fly off the handle. But he was also talking about vulnerability and you know, where, when is it appropriate to share and when is it not appropriate to share?And he talked about like the stoic man [00:23:00] approach, where the heroes, you know, like, like the, like think about. I guess, I guess Clark Kent had Lois Lane and he was probably vulnerable with her, but you know, from the rest of society's perspective, like he's just a man of steel and he's never vulnerable cuz he's always taken care of business or any of these superheroes.Lesley Logan: Did Lois Lane know that he was a superhero? Brad Crowell: I don't think, at first, I don't think so. I, I think at the end, towards, towards the middle and the end of their relationship. It's the same with Spider-Man and Mary Jane. I mean, oh yeah. She didn't know at first, but, you know. Yeah. Lesley Logan: Yeah. I, but you know what's so interesting? Like, I feel like this, this is great advice for everybody, not just like, I love it that I, I think it's so important for men to be having this conversation and to like, really, I think this is really, really important, but I also think that like, Everyone listening to this could also go, huh, I need to like, understand these things.I need to understand the things about myself. I need to understand what's going on inside of my body. [00:24:00] I know I need to understand how to express my emotions in a way that is not restrictive, but also appropriate. You know, like... Brad Crowell: I feel like there's a lot of generational, like, like yeah, it's generational too. You know, like, like, You know, your dad is in his seventies. My parents are in their sixties. You know, as, as the generations have gone by, I do think that there's a different approach. You know, think about like listening to stories of your dad, talk about his parents. It's fucking horrifying. Unbelievable to me. Lesley Logan: Yeah. I would call that abuse. Brad Crowell: Yeah. It's, it's like, like, Like listening to him tell stories, it's just jaw dropping, you know? Lesley Logan: And, and that would, that would to like today, that would be considered child abuse. Yeah. But back then, I think that was how every child was raised.Brad Crowell: But also even just the relationship between his dad and mom.Oh, it was like, didn't that there was like it, you know, it was just no love. Fascinating. Yeah. Fascinating to listen to how far things have shifted and, and I think hopefully in a [00:25:00] positive way, you know, but, but even my parents didn't talk about you know, sex, money, religion, politics. They did not talk about it. It just never, you know? Lesley Logan: Well, you know, I think a lot of people's relationship with their parents, with their fathers since this is what this episode about, especially, at least in your parents' generation. My parents' generation, like my grandmother did work cuz my, my grandfather, my mom's mom worked because my mom's dad. Also worked, but he was like blue collar. Like he was in the plants. Y'all, he had a uniform, had his name Jake on it. Pompadour. Right. You know, and like had the same job forever. He fucking retired from the same job. 40 years. And my grandmother did have a job. Also, she also, she was 16 when she had a parent, had a baby. So there's that. But my dad's parents, like, that's a traditional, like American family kids of the fifties and sixties. She didn't work. She ran the house. Right. And dad, grandpa went to work every single day and he came home, [00:26:00] he drank. And he didn't talk to his kids and they would only talk when they're hunting.And if you got lost, you got lost in good luck finding a campsite on your way home. Like, yeah. And so I think like, so that was my dad's representation of parents. Yeah. So for him to actually be a father that like I truly love and so grateful for. It is shocking. Brad Crowell: Well, what, what, what, coming back to what Jay was talking about too, and, and like, you know, yes. Your dad, I think would be the, the ideal like, representation of the stoic man. Well, I guess it just is what it is. Lesley Logan: Totally. And he ended up burning out. He, he was on stress leave from his work for two years, cuz of that. Brad Crowell: Oh. I didn't even know. But what, what Jay's talking about is that, you know, the stoic man, you know, They just accept what's happening and keep on and they just keep on keeping on. Right? But he said that emotional self-control is something that is actually attractive in us and something that's expected of us as fathers and men in particular today.[00:27:00] And I think you know that, that like the emotional self-control can be like a clamp around them, you know? And so there's moments where it can be okay to be vulnerable and other times where you do have to keep it together, especially if like there's a catastrophe happening, someone, you know, like hopefully you can keep your head on.Lesley Logan: I also think that like, it's so important for everyone to have outlets. Like, I think it's so important. Yeah. You know, you were talking with someone in your family about the, the partner need a hobby, you know? And like, and I think like, It is so important that in partnerships there is a place for each person to have the ability to release their emotions. In a vulnerable setting that allows it to go on where, like maybe in front of the children, it's not appropriate to release those emotions in that moment. You gotta figure out what it is, but also like each person has to have a way of expressing themselves That's so, and getting to know themselves and what they need. It's, I think this idea that men should just have it all together is so weird. [00:28:00] It's so weird to me because like women also are expected to have it all together in like certain places and it's just, I think what's happening is like, people are just not being honest with themselves about how they're feeling, what they're feeling, and they don't have people to go to. And you know, you and I have best friends that we are best friends, but we also have best friends that are not this you and I, because you have to have other people. You cannot be 100% of everything I ever needed in this world. You know, back when there was tribes, like there was the partner, but then there was the women's group who did this and there was this over here. And like, that's important so that each, each person can like express how they're feeling without putting pressure on the other person to like have it, like hold it all together. Yeah. And I, I think, you know, with the hobbies and stuff, like I think about sports and, you know, playing whatever, just like that kind of a thing is a way to release that energy.But also, honestly, I really would encourage. Communication with your partner. As the way [00:29:00] to, to get that information out. And and Jay was hinting it, not hinting it, he straight up said, you know, it's important for men to understand how to communicate what is going on inside them, to be tuned in to what is happening inside them, and to be able to express that meaningfully. And, you know, not in like anger, but actually have a discussion about it. And, and you know, I mean, I, I know that my first relationship I blame a lot of it exploding due to poor communication. Poor communication when were dating, poor communication when we were, you know, moving poor communication when we were together.And, you know, unfortunately it's, it takes two to tango. So it was, you know, both of us not, not really figuring that out. And when. That was like my ultimate decision at the end was like, how come this all blew up? Why the expectations weren't met? Well, why weren't the expectations weren't met? Is because they weren't communicated very well. And I think that, you [00:30:00] know, when, when it comes to this stuff, especially the stoic man, it creates, you know, a ticking time bomb of a person. You know, that eventually is something's gonna snap, you know? So that communication is key. I love it. Yeah. All right. It goes back to those five fucking questions.Brad Crowell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, hopefully you can ...(Lesley: and other things.) Yeah. I mean, if you're still asking five questions of your partner, then Lesley Logan: Yeah, I mean, it's so hard you guys, this is, this is why there are therapists in this world and there are groups and. And it's not easy to be an, an adult in a new city.It's not easy to, you know, like, it's so funny to me. My grandparents, my mom's parents were married for I guess 58 years. ...(Brad: Wow). 58 years. Yeah. Yeah. That's how my, I think that's how my mom was when my grandma passed. Brad Crowell: Oh, your your mom's Lesley Logan: My mom's parents. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And Brad Crowell: Right cuz they got [00:31:00] married at 16 and 17 or something. Lesley Logan: And what is their, what? How we asked 'em how did you stay married? And they said, we don't count the first nine years. Yeah. And it's cuz they tried to divorce each other and it didn't work out right, because it cost money. So at any rate I like, what's so crazy is like back in the day, like you just didn't get divorced. You just like sucked it up, right? You just kept it in and you just kept going. ...(Brad: Talk about the stoic man) and like talk about stoic everything. And it's so interesting because like I was just reading the Be It Instagram and like some people were sharing the shame they had at divorcing at 30, yeah. From the episode we had with Renee Bauer. And it's so funny to me cuz I'm like, how cool did we get? How cool is that we have to live in a world where you go, Ooh, this person, no, this person does not bring out the best in me. I did not bring out the best in them. Brad Crowell: I mean, I'll tell you what, what the, when my, when my ex and I, when it was all going downhill in my mind I kept tell, asking the question like why did I ever get married in the first place?Which was shocking to [00:32:00] me cause I always wanted to be married and then I didn't think that divorce was an option because in my family, you don't get divorced. So I was like, I guess this is life now. And I will figure it out. I don't fucking know, but it, but I was literally resigned to that and I was like, all right, I guess this is gonna be what it's gonna be.Mm-hmm. And I'm really happy that my ex was t he one who was like, I'm not okay with that. We're done. Because if it had been my decision, we will probably have suffered. Lesley Logan: Yeah. And so like thank, I mean like thank God for that, for her. But also like that those experiences like help us all. Like if you can actually learn from the experiences that you didn't enjoy in your past, I think they all come down to listening to other people and communicating your needs. Anyways, we have Be It action items. Brad Crowell: We do.[00:33:00] All right, so finally let's talk about those, Be It action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Jay Twining? All right. He said he had three questions that were the three core steps. He said, success leaves clues. And the first step is research. Right? So whatever, whatever it is that you're going after with your career or your goals or your life or whatever he said, you need to research it. And then the second is you need to practice it. And then the third is that you have to evaluate whether or not you still like it.So let's dig into each of those. So, He talked about research. He did a bunch of research and he was reading a lot of books, blogs. He talked about his old mentor and then he said, if you know, or someone who is a mentor of his said, if you want to be an investor, then you have to do what investors [00:34:00] do.You have to read the financial reports every day. So if your goal is to be a blogger or a podcaster or a pilates teacher or a mom, or I don't know, whatever it is, then you gotta dive in. So you gotta actually learn about that thing, right? He said, for example, Warren Buffet reads the investor, he reads the financial reports every single day.So if you wanna do the thing. Do the work every single day. Lesley Logan: That is definitely being until you see it. Yeah. Yeah. So the other two are apply and practice, which this is like the I'm in, I'm in. So apply and practice. So like for ex example, you, if you wanna invest, you gotta to like apply what you're learning and do that, and then you have to evaluate it.So you actually have to like, Look back and go, how did that feel? Do I like it? What worked? What didn't work? And then ask yourself if you wanna keep trying it. So if you don't, if investing doesn't like light your fire. Brad Crowell: Oh, it's not necessarily about investing. This is whatever your goal is. Lesley Logan: Whatever your goals. [00:35:00] So for example, you might, and I use jeans a lot because everybody buys jeans. You might think that you want high wasted skinny jeans, and you are like, yep, this is what I want. But you gotta go research like, okay, where are the highways and skinny jeans at? Where can I buy these? Where's the price point that I'm willing to do?Then you have to go and try them on, and then you actually have to evaluate, do I like how these feel on my body? Do I like this? I know Jay's probably like, this is nothing to do with fatherhood. I know, bu I'm, but, but this is like a way to picture yourself, like taking the research, applying and, and practicing it, and you just like go, okay, how does this feel? How does this make me feel? Do I like how I feel? And then you can make your changes. You can actually return shit that you don't like, and then you can go off and do another thing. Maybe in the meantime someone was like, Hey, I think these would look good on you. And you go, whoa, I think I like this. But then you still have to apply, practice and evaluate. Brad Crowell: So yeah, another good example is that my sister. went to [00:36:00] school for biology and wanted to become a, a pa, a physician's assistant. And she's like, oh, did, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna, I'm in on this. And she went to, to undergrad and, you know, she made, she had a lot of fun playing soccer there as well. And she went and did this, this biology degree. In undergrad and in order to become a pa you have to have, you know, a couple thousand hours of experience working in a hospital before they even let you in the program. So she was like, all right. So she went and started working in the ER at a hospital near where we grew up and hated it. Absolutely hated it and had the willingness to say, this is not for me. I need to figure something else out. And then you know, ended up finding. A love of project management when she went to work for another company in the field of soccer and and that's now, now she's doing that with us. Now she's doing that and she loves it.Lesley Logan: Yeah. [00:37:00] Yeah. So I love this. I thought these Be It Action Items are really easy to apply no matter, no matter who you are in this world, father or not. Yeah. So I thank you, Jay, for being an incredible human, and I love what you're doing. And if you have fathers in your life, go send 'em to the Feel Good Fatherhood. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell: And I'm Brad crowell. Lesley Logan: Thank you so much for being here. Thanks so much for listening to this and asking your questions. If you are getting the Be It Pod in emails every single Thursday, there's an easy way to submit the questions you want us to answer on that. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell: Bye for now.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram.I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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Uncover the path to healing in this latest recap episode. Tune in as Lesley and Brad share their advice to navigate divorce with confidence and find your tribe of supportive individuals who will empower you to own your story.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How owning vulnerabilities can be powerful and healing.Embracing your journey and transforming it into a superpower to change lives.Setting intentions to find your tribe and allow conversations to help you process.Why paying attention to your financial situation can be freeing. What being the CFO of your own life truly means.Episode References/Links:Menopocalypse: How I Learned to Thrive During Menopause and How You Can Too by Amanda ThebeShe Who Wins by Renee BauerWorld Reef DayThe Hormone Reset Diet by Sara Gottfried, M.D.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipWaitlist for the flashcards deckUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Brad Crowell: [00:00:00] It felt like I was wearing this like monster on my back, right? And, but I was great at hiding it, no? And so it, but it, but it didn't help me process. It didn't help me heal. It didn't help me like experience, engagement with other people with this like, truth out there, right? Because like, I felt like they don't, it's none of their business.They don't need to know, but it just kept eating at me, and it wasn't until I began to share with other people, oh yeah, I've actually been going through like a divorce right now. That, that, that was the beginning of healing for me. Lesley Logan: Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity [00:01:00] and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.​Lesley Logan: Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap, where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig into the empowering convo I have with Renee Bauer in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, feel free to pause us now. Go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us.And if you're listening on the O P C app, it's very easy. You can see like all like a bunch of recent episodes all at one time. So you can pick and choose however you want. If you're listening on the other places, I don't know how they work, but it's, you know, what you want to listen to Renee's especially if you've ever like felt like, oh my gosh, I'm embarrassed about this past thing I had in my life.I thought it was so Brad Crowell: great. Yeah. Very liberating. And [00:02:00] also I appreciate the experience that she went through and you know what she's, how she's bringing her experience to other people who are suffering and in need. So that was pretty awesome. Lesley Logan: Yeah, and I was just able to see her in real life at her Brad Crowell: event and... yeah, in case you're wondering what we're alluding to, she's a divorce attorney. Lesley Logan: Yeah. Yeah. Brad Crowell: And she's actually gone through divorce herself Lesley Logan: In case you're listening to this out of order. She's like... (Brad: Right) So her book, She Who Wins, which is also the name of her podcast and also the name of her event, comes out this September.You guys, you can pre-order that book right now. And there's like special goodies that happen if you do pre-order the book and the way books go, loves, is, it all matters on the pre-orders now. So everything's always changing. Brad Crowell: Yeah, that's the truth. Um, yeah. Well, let's just jump right into it. Lesley Logan: So today, Yeah! Is National, International Reef Day.It'slike World Reef Day. Brad Crowell: yeah, So, [00:03:00] not that Lesley and I are surfers by any means... (Brad: but no, but you, we need the reefs). We need the reefs. I'm a big fan of keeping plastics out of the ocean, which is an obviously an incredible it's incredible how much plastic is currently in the ocean. In fact, when we were just flying to Korea on the way we stopped over in Honolulu. We had a layover there. Both ways. And I was watching a really fascinating documentary about the native, bringing back the native Hawaiian culture from like thousands of years. And they talked about the pan Pacific, you know, the ocean as if it was like its own continent. And how, you know, thousands of years ago people jumped on canoes and they explored the oceans bythe stars. Like, could youimagine? Oh my gosh. Like the way that [00:04:00] people took a wagon and drove across North America. Wow. No. they were like, we're gonna go that way and hope that we hit land. Lesley Logan: Yeah. And the, and the scars are moving, but that's fine. Brad Crowell: I mean, pretty intense. Anyway, they, they were, they were talking all about the reefs and it really got me fired up about them again. Lesley Logan: So, so y'all get rid of your sunscreen and make sure you have sunscreen that is safe for, well, this is, I guess if you're going to a pool, do whatever you wanna do.But if you're going into natural waters, you're going into the ocean, you must use a special sunscreen. So if you actually go to this World Reef Awareness Days site, they say you can observe this day by doing beach cleanup. You could become a virtual diver. Which I guess you do virtual tours. What, how is that helping anyways? Don't know this is their suggestion. Well, you probably just, I think once you're aware of things, it's hard to like be an asshole.Then you can make yourown sunscreen that's actually really healthy for the reefs. So those are some things you can do. But truly, honestly, like if you can... Brad Crowell: Just roll in mud, that's your sunscreen.Lesley Logan: I think they have bees wax in there, which is [00:05:00] only concerning because of the bees. We have a problem with the bees shortage and then there's a, y'all, there's a lot of stuff going on.Please be kindto the reefs cuz we actually really do support the ocean's microbiology and it actually affects your life in other ways if you don't, if you live near an ocean.So talk like, you know, do the right thing. Call your friend who's going to the beach and make sure they're not using sunscreen that's gonna kill the reefs. Yeah. Anyways, we also have some other stuff going on right now. So, this is coming outJune 1st. We're a couple weeks away of doing a webinar for Profitable Pilates on how to convert first time clients.So if you are a Pilates teacher or trained to be one. You will want to be at this webinar. Agency members, of course, you get the VIP ticket for free. If you're not an agency member, you can buy a ticket to the live. You'll have a three day replay. You can also, there's opportunities to buy a V I P ticket and also get to keep the replay forever, which is waycheaper than buying it when it's a course.So you'll want to actually go to the show notes below to actually sign up for the wait list or to sign up for [00:06:00] the webinar. Brad Crowell: And if you're watching, if you're listening to this after that's already occurred, get on the wait list anyway, because we do these webinars periodically throughout the year. And they're all, they're on these various topics and all stuff, so you'll be the first to know when you're on the wait list.And we give you all sorts of hookups and stuff, so check out the show notes. Yeah. Lesley Logan: And then in July we have the Mullet tour in the northern part of the UK, Claire Sparrow's studio, which we're so excited about.Brad Crowell: Oh, I cannot wait That's exciting. It's gonna be amazing. Lesley Logan: At the time that we're recording this, we only have four spots left. Brad Crowell: Yeah, I know. It's insane. It's awesome. Yeah. It's so exciting. Lesley Logan: Yeah. And it's a really great small group. We're so, so, so excited about it. In August, we are doing our summer tour.We have not released the cities yet, but we'll release so soon. So make sure youstay tuned. Brad Crowell: Yeah. All right. And then we actually, we, you know, you've heard us talk about all, our, all the rest of our plans and all the things, but yeah,summer tour is gonna be superfun and we've got some exciting news about that coming to you soon, with some sponsors and all sorts of stuff [00:07:00] that's kicking off. So it's gonna be great. But before we do that, let's see, we have an audience question today. From Karen Campbell. Thanks for submittingg this question. Karen is saying I'd be interested to see an episodeabout menopause and specifically how to best support health for premenopausal women with herbal remedies. I saw a few episodes in lineup on women's health and maintaining hormonal balance. So maybe this topic's already been covered. If it hasn't been done, could you bring on a specialist to discuss it? Lesley Logan: So we are working on a menopause expert. To be honest, it's actually been a little tricky.Hmm. So we are working on getting an actual expert just in menopause. So we have, thank you, Karen, for bringing this up. But here's the other thing about pre-menopause and all this stuff. It's so different for every single person. Like it is so different. So here are some, some places you can go for some more information for you right now until you wait.I don't want you to wait for this advice. So here's the thing, there's a book called Menopocalypse. Yes. I'm [00:08:00] trying if you know the author of Menopocalypse everyone. I would like her on the show if she's listening to this, if she's to Google alert, hello, I want you on the show. The book is called Menopocalypse.Even Brad listened to that book as well... (Brad: Idid.) It's really, really helpful. She explains like all the stuff about perimenopause and menopause that I like, a lot of stuff that they just don't talk about. And also the fears that are out there that are ...(Brad: Amanda Thebe) yeah. Thebe. So, hi Amanda. Come on the show.Then also you guys, Sara Gottlieb. I heard her on Huber's podcast. Uh, she has several books out there and she actually has a hormone reset book. I have not done the hormone reset, to be honest. Elimination diets get a little bit hard for their, I have tendencies. I try to avoid those kinds of things. So Brad's been with me on elimination diets.We just are tryingnot to do them anymore. They, Brad Crowell: I just, that's the point where I just tell her it's all in your head, babe. Lesley Logan: No, it's not. So here's the deal. However, my dear friend has done SarahGottlieb's hormone reset [00:09:00] and really did get some value out of it in her peri menopause journey. Cool. So Sara Gottlieb has some great books on hormones, hormonal diet you can do, and also has been on a Huberman talking about that.Hmm. When it comes to herbal remedies, I look, I wish that I could tell you what those are. I'm not actually perimenopausal yet, so I haven't dove into myself. But in Amanda Thebe's book, there was some really great stuff including breath work. So you guys breath work is. Breath work, breath work, breath work.You could just do so much. And for what, what Amanda brought up was box breathing, which is inhale for four. Hold for four. Exhale for four. Hold for four. Brad Crowell: And I do this to go to sleep sometimes. Lesley Logan: Yes. Yes. It's so helpful. But it's very much aboutexpanding the gut and breathing all the way down into your pubic bone.And then when you exhale, she was like, and imagine just like pulling up, you know, your privates up like, a tissue coming out of a box and like that's how you excel. So it's not like the. Force like compressive, but like very much a uplifting exhale. Hmm. And that could be [00:10:00] really, really great. ...(Brad: good visuals.)So, as far as maintaining hormone balance, balance, you guys do not be, like, there's a lot of stuff out there about H R T. It's just hormone replacement therapy.If it works for you, it works for you.Brad Crowell: So, yeah, she, in Amanda Thebe's book, you talked about that and, and yeah, I thought it was an interesting, I'd never even heard of it. So yeah, it was an interesting, like, exposure to what it is, what it could be, what it isn't, how like it's been. You know, there's like good and bad things out there about it. So,218 Renee Bauer RECAP ROUGH: yeah. Lesley Logan: So until I can get a specialist on here, and again, I'm working on it, I'm, it's, I'm trying to find. Someone who schedule lines upwith mine, I would highly recommend those two, those two books. And then also telemedicine's really amazing. There are specialists, there are female doctor specialists in this that will do a telemedicine talk with you, and then you can get some, cream, some hormones, some patches.Um, the other thing is, is like anything you have to be connected to your body. You guys. So if you are someone who's walking around a little bit disconnected, you might not understand that some of the symptoms you [00:11:00] have are perimenopausal. You might be thinking that it's food or that it's stress or something like that.So, just journal what's going on in your body right now. So until you can find the person that really works for you, you can keep a log of how you're feeling on each day cuz then when they ask you how long you've been feeling like this, you don't feel like, I don't know how long I've been feeling Brad Crowell: like this.That's a good point. because that's something you can start right now. For free. For Lesley Logan: free. So Karen, I hope to have a specialist soon. We've had other people wanting a menopause expert. Ihear you. It's coming. And hopefully that gives you some help for right Brad Crowell: now. Loveit. Okay. Now let's talk about Renee Bauer With two decades of experience as a divorce lawyer. Renee has emergedas a powerful advocate in the women's empowerment space. She's forged a platform that bolds her self-worth and champions women's decision making, rooted in empowerment and financialindependence. Lesley Logan: Um, mm-hmm.I'm gonna jump in. Brad Crowell: Do it. Lesley Logan: So, um, I actually loved that she just talked about owning it. [00:12:00] She was like, you know, she was telling her story about how she was like, ashamed to say that she's a divorce twice. Like, and then she just happened to share on a podcast with a friend like that she was, and people are like, oh my God, thank you so much.And she realized that like what she was ashamed of was actually like the thing that helped connect her to most people. And so I really love that she, she is, was a proponent of like, just own the thing that scare, like, makes you worried that people are gonna be ashamed of you because it actually makes you vulnerable and makes people be able to trust you.And as we've talked about, like she's really like, The best person to help everybody decide if they are, should be getting divorced on, like, what their next steps should be because of her experience. Brad Crowell: Yeah. I was encouraged by her, you know, just the fact that she has seen both sides of the equation. And also, you know, like [00:13:00] being an attorney, you know, she's arguing on behalf of her clients, but she can also relate to her clients. I thought that was pretty cool. You know? When I went through my divorce, it was really interesting because I felt all the same things that she was talking about.Shame. She talked about shame. I felt so ashamed that I waseven considering the concept, you know, or that it was actually being like, forced on me cuz I didn't want to do it atfirst. I didn't wanna do it at all, in fact. And then when it, you know, after it happened, I really had to come to grips with that idea of, of like, you know, okay, I am a divorced person now.And that was a whole, it was like a new identity. I don't even know why I felt like it was that, but it was, you know? So the fact that she can relate tothe people going through it, it wasreally powerful.Well, and also like Lesley Logan: in our own life, there's been different people in our lives who are going through [00:14:00] that and they were so embarrassed and they were like kind of shutting down and like people weren't able to like really talk to them.And it's like, well, you can.you know, because you've been through that and like, I think it's just so important to not be ashamed of the journey that you have, whatever that was. Maybe you've never been, maybe you've never been married. like some people are ashamed that they get to a certain age and they've never been in a long term like, the thing. Yeah, sure. The shame is such a thing that keeps us from shining our light and like you have this amazing skillset, whoever you are, whatever that is, to actually change lives around you. And if you're letting that journey that you've been on, be something you're ashamed of, when really it's actually the superpower that makes you who you are and makes you able to connect with people.So I just love that she is owning this. And it is actually, it's actually what's, what's taking her with the book and with her event. It's really cool. Brad Crowell: Yeah, I think that, also, you know, one, one thing that, she you know, She said, justown it.It sounds very [00:15:00] glib to say that like from,if someone had just come to me and say, just own it, Brad, you're divorced or you're getting divorced, it would've been really hard for me to be like, okay, I'm in on that.Like, no problem. But let me tell you from my own personal experience, I began toheal when, and only when I quote unquote owned it. And for me it wasn't like this idea of like, I guess I'll just be this divorced person now. But what it was for me was I began to own it by no longer avoiding it in conversations with others. Right? Because it was so easy for me to just never bring it up. And so I'd meet people and they would never know that I'm like, for me, it felt like I was wearing this like monster on my back. Right? And, but I was great at hiding it, no? And so it, but it, but it didn't help me process. It didn't help me heal. It didn't help me, like, experience [00:16:00] engagementwith other people with this like, truth out there, right? Because like, I felt like, they don't, it's none of their business. They don't need to know, but it just kept eating at me, and it wasn't until I began to share with other people, oh yeah, I've actually been going through like a divorce right now that, that, that was the beginning of, of healing for me. Processing. So, yeah. ...(Lesley: I love that you said that.) Yeah. So, yeah, and actually, you know, she, her quote was exactly that and that's when I realized I need you to talk about this and not be ashamed about it.So. Yeah. Yeah. Well, one thing that I loved that she said was, find your tribe. And, again, I felt this, I found this to be particularly challenging, the idea of just meeting strangers on the internet to like be in a group of divorced men like that, felt like, uh, I don't know these fucking people, you know? And I was, I was not really okay [00:17:00] with that. So my, so I didn't actually go to an online community. But what I did end up really turning to were my close friends. And, you know, they weren't divorced, but they knew who I, they knew me, they knew me beforemy ex-wife, you know, for years before. And so having that support system was, I couldn't really go to my family. It was weird. I, you know, I didn't feel like that was okay to talk about it with my folks, you know, or my siblings, you know.But having the community around me like really helped me get through it. And that's what she's talkingabout here.So your tribe doesn't need to be like, it could be an onlinecommunity of people who like, don't know you or you don't know them. And that you could find freedom in that, cuz there were some times where I felt likeIt was okay to quote unquote air my dirty laundry [00:18:00] with people who I never would meet again.I'd never see them again. It didn't fucking matter ifthey judged me because I was like, yeah, your opinion means nothing to me.And then alternatively finding your tribe with people who do care about you. you know? You could be doing that too. Lesley Logan: Well also, like you had friends from before you were married. I was not divorced, but after I left my ex five years, I didn't have any. because all of, I moved to LA and then we started dating shortly thereafter. And so all of my friends were his friends. So when I left, it waslike, poof, gone. And I have to tell you guys, there's this one story that is likejust, oh my gosh, I wish I could have a video of it so you could just see what was like. But I was in line for this movie through the cemetery and I'm in this line. I'm like waiting. I'm by myself cuz my one friend that I made, the one friend that I made was looking for parking. And so I'm by myself and this line and the way the line goes is it snakes back and forth.And so I'm walking and I can see. Part of the line walkingtowards me cuzthey're about to turn in the corner. And my brain [00:19:00] saw a friend, somebody who I was friends with because of my ex and my brain didn't go. Danger warning, run away. And so I was like, hi. Right. Like, oh my God. And they're like, oh my God.And then behind them was my ex. And they're like, oh my God. And then behind him was this girl he was in and she was like, oh my God, at everybody. And then all I hear was, We're gonna have topassher over and over again.Brad Crowell: Oh, right. Cause The line snakes back and forth. Lesley Logan: Snakes back and forth. And I was just like, oh my God. And I'm likes, I'm like, I'm like, I don't care if you have to double park, youpark your car, you need to get your, I'll pay the ticket. I don don't care. We had to pass each other 11 times. Oh. At any rate, I only had thisone friend at the time, but she was also making friends. And so when it says find your tribe, like that can be hard work.And it was effort. And yes, that was a really terrible moment in my life, 11 times. Oh my God. But, [00:20:00] but I did find friendsand those friends led me to more friends. And those led to more friends. And then it put me to finding myself more. And now, while I don't have a lot of those same friends, because we've moved and everyone's life has changed. And welcome to LA it's a very transient town. It did help me find myself, to get me to a place where I could like go on to other things. Brad Crowell: Yeah. Yeah. Renee talked about joining a yoga group. Right? And how that became, like a lifeline tostaying in community with people. And you know, she, she actually said, you know, you're either gonna, she told herself, you're either gonna sit here all day and feel bad for yourself, or you're gonna put on some leggings and you're gonna go to yoga and you'll probably feel better at the end.And I couldn't agree with her more. I mean, it was really easy to stay home, drink a bottle of wine, watch a movie, and, and feel, you know, like shit. And it wasn't until I began to [00:21:00] intentionally go out again, and that allowed those conversations with others to happen, that processing to happen. So, yeah, well, so honestly, I mean, that was, that was quite a trip down memory lane. I'm not gonna lie, I feel like I've heard this story about you bumping into your ex, but I didn't realize. Uh, it was clearly at the movies at It was a business. yeah, yeah, yeah. Clearly, And you wanna, that's the only line that I could think of where you were like, oh.I can I, can I tell you guys the best part? This is, okay, lemme just tell you the best part. I know we're running up on time, but lemme tell you this.So you take pictures atthe moviesand it wasthe slumber party night. It was the night where there was three movies in a row. And so we had my friends and I, once I got there, we like, got our picture taken.And in between the movie, the first movie and the second movie, they were showing the picture that had been taken up on the mausoleum. you guys, it's like the biggest block of wall. And when my picture came up with me and my two friends, it [00:22:00] stayed up. For minutes. And I laughed so hard. I looked at my friends, I'm like, I'm good.I'm outta here. Like I they are having to sit here and like, look and look. And I had this big cloak hoodon.It was all scary movies. And so I just looked like, I was like looking down upon the people. Brilliant. And so get this the next, the Monday after I get an email. Nicepicture. Anyway, we should get Lesley Logan: into these Be It action items real quick. Brad Crowell: Yeah. All right. So let's finally, let's get into these, Be It action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Renee Bauer? The biggest thing she talked about was knowing your money. Which is like a hundred percent what we talk about with business.So it's so funny. But personally that's very liberating, you know? And what's so crazy is like it was like the reverse of the conversation. She said most women come to [00:23:00] her and they're like, he took care of all the bills.I actually have no idea about any of it. And that's how my ex and I was, I didn'tactually manage any of it. Sowhen we split, I was like, how much are we in debt? What? I had no idea. Right? I didn't know anything and it was like really crazy. And, and I totally agree that if I had, you know,felt, if I had paid attention, You know, like I think, I don't think it would've been an issue for me to pay attention during the relationship of like, Hey, yeah, I just wanna, like, understand things.Then it would've been a lot more freeing. But I never paid attention at all. Yeah. yeah. Lesley Logan: Yeah. I really like that card of the, of the interview and I highly recommend listening to that part if you haven't, cuz it's really great. No matter if you're in a happy marriage or not. Like it's just so everyone, everyone should just be aware of what's going on, cuz then you know what your options are all the time. Brad Crowell: Yeah, and I'm, I'm glad you shared about how we operate today because, [00:24:00] you know, it'sstarkly different than how I used to do it. Today you and I actually have a monthly meeting for the company. But that incorporates, you know, pretty much our personal life too. And that allows us both to be understanding where we are and, and all the things.So, yeah. Lesley Logan: And this takes us into one of the Be It action I love, which is like, treat yourself like you are the CFO of your own life. And I think that like, goes along with what you were saying about your last marriage. It's like, I think it's really easy if you don't like money or if money was like a bad thing that you're raised to just like, ignore the money and I don't want it cuz it's a problem and I don't want whatever.But the actual reality is,is like no matter if you're in a marriage, not in a marriage and a great one. The more we are aware of the finances in our life, the more options we have. And you know, you can, this could be the thing you Be It Till You See It at this season. It's like, I'm gonna be a CFO of my life.What does a CFO do? Well, they know the numbers. Okay, what are my numbers? All right, what do I, what are my goals for my numbers to be what do I, want this money to be doing? And like, even if that'sjustthat you have a donationgoal that you wanna make, like that would [00:25:00] be a really great thing for y'all to do.So this was a fun interview. I really love Renee. It was just so great. And y'all should get her book. Brad Crowell: Yeah, I think so too. And it's upcoming right now, soI don't actually remember whatthe title of it was. She Who Lesley Logan: Wins? Brad Crowell: Oh, the book is called She Who Wins?. ..(Lesley: Mm-hmm. And her podcast is too great. so there you go.)Yeah. So we will, we will put the link for that in the show notes. And thanks so much for joining us. Lesley Logan: Yeah. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell: And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan: We are so grateful for you. This is so much fun. Oh my gosh, we're almost about hit two years with this podcast. I feel like we're like a day or two away, so we'll probably have to do that in FYF. 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This episode delves into the inspiring journey of Renee Bauer, a renowned divorce attorney turned women's empowerment advocate. It explores how Renee leverages her personal experiences and professional expertise to empower women to make decisions free from fear. Expect insights on reclaiming self-worth, understanding finances, and navigating life post-divorce.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Renee's work shifted to women's empowerment space. Overcoming divorce shame and embarrassment. How to make decisions that aren't based on fears. How toxic relationships can bring out the worst version of ourselves. Showing up for yourself and finding a positive tribe of people. She Who Wins podcast and Renee's upcoming book. How to take control of your money and be the CFO of your life. Episode References/Links:Follow Renee on IGMs. Renee Bauer WebsiteListen to the She Who Wins PodcastListen to the Be It Till You See It podcast Amy Ledin Episode 5: How to Take Fast Action Against Limiting BeliefsMenopocalypse by Amanda ThebeGuest Bio:Renee is an award winning divorce attorney and Founder of Happy Even After Family Law. She is also a multi 7-figure entrepreneur and loves helping other women recognize their own self-worth, make big, bold decisions and build a business that gives them the financial freedom to follow their heart.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Renee Bauer: [00:00:00] If I ask a client, like, if this was your daughter's relationship, what would you tell her? And they'll say, well, I tell her to leave. Well, why is that not good enough for you? Like, why is it different for her? And guess what? She's watching you. And if she's, if she sees you not leaving and sees that maybe her dad or or her stepdad isn't treating you right, like what does she take from that, Lesley Logan: Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt, my friend, my friends.Action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it. It's a practice, not a [00:01:00] perfect. Let's get started.All right. Loves, how are you? Welcome back to the Beat Till seat interview with an amazing guest. Um, I am so thrilled to have this one on. I've actually been on her podcast. She who wins and she's such a powerhouse. And here's what I know. I know that there are divine appointments and everything.Like we, uh, we met by putting ourselves into a room and it was a very small in-person event that was going on. And there was this networking. Part that was supposed to happen and as an introvert that I was, I just wanted to hang up my friend Lauren and like just go have a drink. But the energy in the group was so good that we decided to stay for the networking part, which was like this, you sit and the one row of chairs in front of you just kept moving.So you had like these two or three minutes per, per person to talk to. So it's a little overwhelming for the introvert that I am. And there's like 20 people that we met like within an hour. It was chaos and crazy. But when I, this woman sat down in front of me, first of all, I was so excited to [00:02:00] finally meet her because I'd been hearing her amazing advice in the room and I was like, I gotta know this woman.And then when she asked me for some help, I was like, Ugh. Cuz I had this like moment of like imposter syndrome. But like I just was like, this woman is so amazing, she's so powerful. Like, and then she asked a question and I was like, oh, I have an answer to that. And it was so hilarious because she had actually just met.The person I suggested that she connect with. However, um, it just goes to show that that person got double votes that she needs to connect with her. And also, um, never, never put yourself into a position where you actually are putting people up on pedestals when you haven't actually met them. Because who you are is valuable and what you have to offer is very uniquely different than what the person you're in front of has to offer.And so together we can actually have these amazing, crazy moments where we come together and we're stronger than we ever we're on our own. And so we actually dive into this, uh, to that type of topic in this interview. So, Renee Bauer, she's incredible. You're gonna hear her story. You're gonna hear who she is, what she does, what she's up to next, which I think is really important cuz sometimes I think, [00:03:00] um, when I bring on guests, you can just hear what they are at the top of their game, but also as they're transitioning into another thing.You know, she's this powerful, amazing person, but she's starting something new and there's uncertainty there and there's, there's newness there. And so I'm, I'm really excited for hear. Tons of amazing advice and also hear from someone who is like changing what they're up to these days and how that's working for them.And so it's exciting and you're gonna get a lot out of this. Let me know how you feel about this podcast by leaving us a review. Give us some stars. You can do that on Spotify, apple, or ever listen to podcasts. And here is Renee.All right, be it babe. I am really thrilled finally, to bring this amazing woman on the Be It pod. I have met her, gosh, it's probably almost six months ago now, uh, that we're recording this, so maybe even longer by the time you hear this. But she was just such a powerhouse, and when I heard what she does for women and what she does on this planet, I was like, I have to have her on.So Renee Bauer, thank you so much for being here. Can you tell everyone who you are and what Renee Bauer: you rock at? Thank you, Leslie. [00:04:00] I'm so pumped to be here. I am a divorce lawyer. I've been doing it for 20 years, but I noticed in that journey that the relationship was kind of a, was what happened after other things were going on in a woman's life.And really what was happening is women were struggling with issues of worthiness, of understanding money. Of understanding that they were capable of the love and the life and the job that they want. So my work has since shifted to more of this woman's empowerment space of hosting live events and a podcast.And I have a book coming out in 2023 all about that. So it's, you know, the work is, is is part divorce. That's what I, my trade is, but my love and purpose is really helping women just see what they're capable of and what they can inspire Lesley Logan: to. You know, okay. There's so much to unpack and love there because, um, you could have, you could have definitely just stayed, like, just had that one thing just been like, just rocking one thing, amazing divorce attorney, but you [00:05:00] saw that there's another problem and like, if we could solve this problem, it might put you out of a job or it might actually help people.Um, it will help women realize that no matter what happens in their relationship, they are an amazing person. That like, that, like that isn't a reflection, uh, it doesn't have a reflection of them and their worthiness. Renee Bauer: Yeah. And you know, so, uh, what I saw over the years is that women who would come into my office and they would sit across from me and they would ask questions like, how do you know?Or I would see them, Describe these really horrific, toxic relationships, or they knew that their relationship had come to completion because it was just fine and that wasn't good enough. But they still didn't make that decision to leave the relationship because they were scared. And a lot of times it was fear around money.It was a lack of control of money. And I said, well, that's, that's the issue here. It. Is, it's, it's not that the relationship, it's, you know, whether you stay or go, but it's, they're choosing, they know the relationship has come to completion, but they haven't chose themselves yet because they're so [00:06:00] afraid.And that's the root of really what, what the work that I do and the problem that I saw and I hope to help people Lesley Logan: work through. Oh yeah. I think, um, I can, I wasn't married to the person I was with before Brad, but it was like that. And I remember driving on the freeway and like, In traffic and just like praying to God that like he would break us up because I really didn't know how to break up and I also didn't know what I would do once we were broken up.Cuz I was like, I, I don't have a place to live once we break all these things. Right. And, uh, living in la like there's a really expensive leap to make. It's like, oh, I'm gonna go from like having a house that I like paid f partially for, but not enough to like, pay for an apartment of any size. Size. And so, um, so I, I can relate to those women so much and I'll, and I'll never forget I had this client.And, uh, she, she's a woman of a, of a certain age and a certain amount of wealth from her previous. She married well the first time, and she's asked me how it was going. [00:07:00] I said, oh, it's, it's nice. And she said, honey wallpaper's nice. And she said, look, you don't have to marry for love the first time you can marry for money.But do not just be in a nice relationship. Renee Bauer: I love that. I, you know what? I had the same story of that you had of driving, I was driving in my minch green Volvo, s u v with the double videos on the headrest with, with my infant son in the backseat. And I had this moment where it was like, okay, now that I have my son, I have everything I need to be happy.Like now I look back and I think of that thought. I was like, whoa. Like what? You know, girl, there, there's some work to do there. But I stayed in that relationship for. Two years because I thought, well, my son would bring me happiness. Not the case yet for a minute, but you know, not long term. And I had just started my law firm.I had maybe five clients I could count on one hand, you know, the number of people I represented. Rented and the money that was not flowing in, and I stayed partially because I was afraid of living on my own, having to support myself. I didn't know [00:08:00] how I was going to, even though I had a law degree, I was a lawyer.I didn't have that, that steady job because I was self-employed and I stayed. Yeah. And so I've like, I've been there, you know, and I see it so many times with women too, who feel so stuck because of a situation they find themselves in. But that doesn't have to be the only situation. Like there are, there are things that they.Can do in order to get out of that situation because being just fine. Am I ex He's a great guy. He was a great dad. Like there was nothing wrong. It was, it was wallpaper, Lesley Logan: right? I'm, it's just, I've, I've never forgotten that entire, like conversation cuz I'm, when, whenever I have clients like, oh, it's nice.I'm like, wallpaper's nice. Like, I'll never forget that. Like, there's gonna be moments where your relationship is like in different stages, but, um, just if the, if the high point is nice then, so I, I love that you have that story as well, because I think it makes it even easier for you to be relatable not only to your clients, but to the women that you're trying to serve right now.And what are some things that you did to [00:09:00] kind of like ready yourself to leave him and also like to get yourself to the point where you're like, I can teach other people how they're worthy no matter what's going on. Renee Bauer: Yeah, so two, two different questions and answers, but one, getting ready to leave. I just got to the point where I was so unhappy and I had gone to a doctor, just a regular checkup, and the doctor was like, how are things going?You're a new mom. And I remember saying like, you know, doc, I'm not happy. And she was like, you want me to prescribe a prescription for you? And I was like, wait a second. I'm not depressed, I'm not happy. And there's a difference. And that's when I think everything started to fall into place. And it was like, you know what?There's nothing wrong with this relationship, but I can't see myself li living a fulfilled life, staying in it and taking that leap and trusting that it was all going to work out. And I tell my clients that all the time. It's sometimes you have to take the leap and let everything work itself out the way it will, even though you're scared, even though you don't know what the other side's gonna look like, even though [00:10:00] you don't know where you're gonna live.Like you just have to decide, okay, I'm gonna take the smallest little action forward in order to at least start the momentum. And that's what I did. It was like the smallest step. And it was like, all right, I file. I don't know what's gonna happen next. Okay, now I move out. Now I don't know what's gonna happen after that.And it was like just kept taking little hard, uncomfortable, scary action. Friends, and you know, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. That year was hard. Like it was, it was, I was my, the worst version of myself. I was devastated. I had so much shame around it. I didn't have friends because I wasn't living in the state that I grew up in, but it's like, okay, I ca I know in my heart.This is still the right decision. Mm-hmm. Because even though it's a hard one, it's still the right one for me, you know? And here I am, all of these, let's see, my son's 17 now, so 15 years later, I'm so grateful I made that decision and he, we've both moved on, we're both remarried. Um, he's, my ex is with I think the per perfect person for him.I was not it, you know, I met with [00:11:00] my match and I'm so grateful that. I was able to kind of push through that hard when I think so many women don't want to feel that discomfort and so that they, they stay because what they know is better than what they don't know. Lesley Logan: Oh, yeah. I, I couldn't agree more. And I, I mean, like, I definitely, as I like hear your story, what I, what I hear so much is like, because of that situation, it really makes you the most prepared to do what you're doing right now.Like if you had, uh, if you had stayed in that relationship like. It doesn't sound like it was a horrible one. You just weren't happy and like you definitely would've ended up affecting other things in your life. But also if you'd never been married to that person, like your life, be totally different and you wouldn't be able to help.You could be the same lawyer with the same, even like a similar child situation, but like you wouldn't actually be able to relate to women the way that you're doing it and also empower them the way you are going to they, the way you are now. Renee Bauer: I don't think I became a really good divorce lawyer until I got through that and I have.So in between all of that, I got married a second [00:12:00] time, like so I even have that little and that second husband. That relationship lasted from beginning to end, like a year and a half. I mean, we're talking, meeting, marriage, divorce, and that short of time. So ta pile the shame on there and the embarrassment on, but that journey.Would not, you know, having gone through that, like I can connect with clients and other women who are saying, um, you know, I'm so scared I get it. Like I was too. Like I understand the fear around money and you can still work through it. So before I, you know, I was a decent lawyer, but having that pain and experiencing the emotional rollercoaster of going through that, I think changed everything about how I practiced and, and represented my clients.Yeah. Lesley Logan: Yeah, you can see them and, and also you can understand that that, and you said the word like it's shame. Like there is so much shame whether you go through a divorce or thinking of going through a divorce, you go through another one. My mom, um, she's gone through too, and I can tell that the shame that she still carries around that.Um, what are some things that you [00:13:00] help you helped yourself or help other clients do to deal with that shame part? Because that I think can be the one that changes your life the most. Like that could keep you from doing anything else after a divorce. I love this question Renee Bauer: so much because it wasn't until I started actually speaking out and speaking, going on a podcast like this and talking about my two divorces that I overcame the shame.So prior to that, I was like going into work and, and doing all of the things. I'd come home and still be kind of living in this world of like, I was embarrassed. I didn't wanna talk about it. I didn't wanna share any of my personal story with my colleagues or like other lawyers or let anyone know about it.But I had gone on a friend's podcast and she started, she, she said, I'm gonna interview you. I'll bring sushi over. We'll have a couple martinis. It'll be all good. So she did that. I'm like, Ooh, sushi. Okay, I'm, I'm in. We poured the martini. She clipped on the mic and she. Started asking me about my divorce and maybe I was a little buzzed, but I actually started answering [00:14:00] really honestly.And when that episode came out, people had reached out to me to say like, Hey, that was my story too. Thank you for speaking so vulnerably about it. And that's when I realized I need to talk about this and not be ashamed about it. And so now, now it's like, it's, it's second nature to just, to be like, yeah, I'm divorced twice, so what?You know? And so it was, it was sharing it, and I think so often, People don't wanna share that. And they're almost like, apologize. It's like, you know, the whisper like, oh, I'm divorced, or I'm twice divorced. And it's like, just own it. Be like, you know what? I, I was in two relationships that didn't work out and I made the, the brave decision to leave that because I wanted more from our family, for us, for our kids.And you know that that's okay. You know, Lesley Logan: I wanna highlight that because there are many women listen to this podcast. We have a few good men and then we have mostly women and I. I wanna highlight that you said you made the brave decision to leave. I think, um, though, that if we could actually change the stigma around divorce and we could [00:15:00] actually focus on, um, that you may, that it's brave and courageous to, you know, Acknowledge that this is not the right relationship for either person, then I actually think there'd be more happiness in this world, and also children raised in households where they can see that confidence comes from like, choosing yourself and that you can choose yourself.Um, I, I, I actually think it would be way different than people like trying to stick it out for longer and or some people are in relationships, unfortunately, where there is. Trauma happening and things like that, and like that, that there's a shame around divorce. So they'd rather stay in the thing. And it's like if we could just empower people that it's actually very brave to choose, you know, to help both people have an opportunity to have love and Renee Bauer: happiness.Yeah, and I, and I think if people are being really honest, if they're in that or you're on the cusp of divorce, that relationship's not happy. Neither of you are happy. Because you are not gonna have one person who's totally happy and the other one who's miserable, like something, the dynamic it, it whatever is [00:16:00] happening there.The reality of it is both of you are probably in this kind of place of just being stuck or just going through the motions of it. And it breaks my heart that like I have friends who are in relationships or marriages that are not great and they're not happy. And I'll say to them, well, you have a choice.And they'll be like, no, I don't. Like, I have three kids. So. Like that isn't the reason to stay in something where you wake up every day and you, you dislike, and I, I don't wanna say the word hate, but for some people it's hate, dislike, or resent. Your your spouse. And if you know, I, I like to say if when your kids go off to college, how do you feel about spending time with your spouse?And usually if the answer is like, oh God no. Like, I don't know what we're gonna do, well that tells you that something needs to be fixed, whether you work on it as a couple, which if that's possible, then the absolutely do that. Or you make the decision to change the situation. Yeah. Lesley Logan: Yeah, I think that that's what a, a great way to picture things, cuz that can really help you.And also, like, I love that, you know, [00:17:00] you people we're not here saying like, divorce is the answer. You can't, there are some relationship that absolutely can be worked on, but ob obviously both parties have to want to, to do that. And then action speaks louder than, than the words that are in those things.So, so to go back to like teaching people worthiness and like also, you know, Also overcoming the fear of that uncertainty. What are, what are some things that, um, that women can do, and especially in if, if that's, if this is where they're like thinking of going or where maybe they're at right now as I listen to this.Renee Bauer: Yeah. And so I'm bringing this to a, a very strategic, um, to do what they can do because what I have found is that most women have this fear around money, and often they, they'll come into me and they'll say, I wasn't the one who paid the bills, or All the money got deposited into a joint account. I don't know what's going on.So this is a really practical strategy that they can just start to really educate themselves and be informed about what's happening in their marital finances. Really start to see what's [00:18:00] coming in, what's going out, what do the bills look like, um, look at retirement statements. Make sure that you have your own credit card.Set up a separate bank account if all you have is a joint account. So like, really start to do things where you feel empowered from a financial perspective, because so many women feel like they're, they're gonna stay stuck because of the money, you know? Mm-hmm. Like we talked about. Mm-hmm. They're not, they're not gonna have enough, but if they start to take control of that, then they can.Start to make decisions that aren't based on fear, but really are aligned with what they know is true. So it's really start to get a handle on the money, and that's like start looking through bank statements and credit card statements and investment statements so you can really understand what there is.Lesley Logan: Yeah, I think that that's really, we, um, at our house, we call it the sahu, the State of the Financial Union. And once a month, and I hate the meeting, I really do, but I also don't wanna not be at the meeting because like, it didn't make me feel good to not know what's going on. So we once a month sit down and we know how much money is the next month supposed to bring in, how much are we?And like it's a little bit [00:19:00] business and a little bit personal because obviously we work for ourselves. So if the business doesn't make its money, we don't make our money. So we actually sit through and go, okay, yes, we expect all these members to stay on. We expect, oh, I expect these ones to leave. Oh, we have these events coming up.We can expect to make this much. Okay. Every, all the, there's no stress on payroll, there's no stress on this. And then, um, while Brad does pay our bills, well my sister actually works for us and she like sends all the money around. I'm on all the, I get all the emails. This has been paid, this has been paid, this has been paid.So like I am involved in knowing where things are at. And then my husband and I actually never joined our, uh, bank accounts. We've always had 'em separate. Yeah. Just kind of made sense cuz he had his own business at the time and I had my own. And it allows, It allows me to feel like I don't ever have to a, not that he, he would ever ask me to, but I don't ask.I don't ever feel like I have to ask to buy a cent something if I want something. Yeah. It's like I have my own money, I have my own credit card. You know, as long as I can be responsible with all that, then I can know I'm good with my things. I, you know Renee Bauer: what? And that's such a hot button [00:20:00] topic, because I like, I posted something on TikTok and it went a little nutty and people were coming at from all different angles.I agree with you. I, there's nothing wrong with keeping things separate and my husband and I too, we all have separate stuff and we have a joint bank account that really sits there kind of dormant. We don't use it because everything, we're kind of operating from our separate. That doesn't mean you're setting yourself up or getting prepared for divorce.It just means that you have some financial independence. And having that state of the union is so important because even though things are separate, you come together and you look at the full picture. So people get really triggered by that, and they think like, well, if you're, you're keeping things separate, then that means your relationship isn't totally unified.And I disagree. Yeah. I think that, Lesley Logan: yeah, I couldn't, I, I agree. And I, you know, TikTok is a whole other world of Oh, it certainly Renee Bauer: is. I just, it's such a weird place, but Lesley Logan: like, Almost the people who are saying that, I feel like there's more fear on, on their end, like that you're almost highlighting something, um, that they're, [00:21:00] uh, unwilling to acknowledge.But it's like your relationship can be hot and connected and it doesn't have to be by a bank account. Like that's what tell you you're having a great relationship. So, um, I love, I love that tool. Um, when it, when when women are, um, obviously they're spare around money. Do, what other fears have you seen that keep them from maybe making this decision or also they know that they make the decision, but like making the next steps so that they can thrive On the other side?Being Renee Bauer: alone, that's always a big one. Um, figuring out, so being alone and having to figure out like, How are you cutting the lawn? I mean, that's one of my favorite stories is like one of my first weekends after divorce, it was maybe a few weeks had gone by and I looked out in my lawn and they were like weeds all over the place.I'm like, ah, shit. Like I need to handle this. And I went out with a weed whacker and weed whacked a half acre, and it was a disaster. And then on Monday I went and hired someone. But it was like doing simple things like [00:22:00] that that you never had to think about. And people think like they're. Overwhelmed, like, how am I going to have the, the driveway plowed?And, and, and there's solutions to all of that. So you don't put your happiness online just because you're worried about the, the shrubs needing pruning. Mm-hmm. So that's, you know, that's one of the things. And then often the kids, people are afraid of messing up their kids. And I, what I say to them is, conflict causes problems and it causes, um, Con consequences in, you know, in kids, what kids are seeing and how they're being raised.It's not, it's not the divorce, it's the conflict. Mm-hmm. So, being in a house where there's a ton of conflict and a ton of fighting, they're seeing that now you're normalizing what, what a relationship looks like to them. And let me tell you, they're gonna go on and make those same mistakes and not have a healthy relationship because they're mirroring what the, what they grew up in rather than watching.To their parents, maybe live separately, but also live in a, in a happy environment. And [00:23:00] I know that that's kind of black and white and there's a whole lot of in between there with levels of conflict, even when you're divorced. But often people think that the divorce itself is going to screw kids up, and it's just not, it's not true.Yeah, I think, Lesley Logan: I think you're right. I think, um, you know, there's that whole like childhood divorced kids, like divorced homes like from the eighties and nineties. And I think that if you really look at it, it was the way that conflict was really. Put through with divorces, like there's conflict getting to the divorce, and then the divorces are messy and ugly.And, and so like, the kids are not, it's not the divorce, it's the messy and ugliness that they're seeing from their parents who, the parents say they love them, but that like, they're like, it's, but they're, it's just, it's all a hot mess. So I, I agree. I think, um, One of our guests, Amy Ledin, she'd said, um, actions are caught not taught.And if you are wanting your kids to go open a world where they get to have choice, they get to feel happy. inute---Lesley Logan: They get to feel like they have potential and possibility in this world and love, but you're raised 'em a household [00:24:00] where like they can clearly see that the two adults do not have that kind of passion for each other, or love for each other, or respect for each other.They're seeing that they're seeing those actions and that that is going to be something that. They either resent you for or they think is normal, as you say, that normalizes it, and then that's how their relationships go. Renee Bauer: Yeah. Like, and you think about, like, I have a, a son and three stepkids. I want them to be happy.And if that means walking away from a relationship that isn't good and, and, and filing for a divorce or, or leaving that, then so be it. If they're happy and rather than staying, you know, and it's like, It's what do you want for them? And if you can't, like if, if you, if I ask a client, like, if this was your daughter's relationship, what would you tell her?And they'll say, well, I tell her to leave. Well, why is that not good enough for you? Like, why is it different for her? And guess what? She's watching you. And if she's, if she sees you not leaving and sees that maybe her dad or or her stepdad isn't [00:25:00] treating you right, like what does she take from that? You know?Mm-hmm. Just, it's, it's hard though. It's hard, you know? It's easy for, for someone to listen, be like, yeah, but you don't get it. It, it's, you know, there's so many, of course it is hard, like there are so many factors and it's not a simple process to walk away and there's so much untangling and uncoupling, but it's still worth it.Yeah. If you're living in a bad relationship or a stagnant, or there isn't love, Yeah, it's worth it. You're Lesley Logan: worth it. I, I love that you, and thank you for your knowledge and that I, like, if you're listening to this and you're like, you guys, it's like, it's not gonna be easy. It's not gonna be easy. It's not easy.Even if you, if the, if it's a conscious uncoupling, like yeah, it's still not easy. Um, because that, that's the end of a chapter. That's end of a story. It's end of a book and like, you know, there's a lot of unraveling to do there. But, um, I, I will stand by you and like, you know, we, it is so much more important.On the other side of it, and now however long that takes you, like, you know, it's, it doesn't have to be tomorrow that you make this decision. [00:26:00] You can prepare and ready yourself to ready up. But like I do think that being honest with yourself about what you deserve in this world, I. You know, and I, I believe that everyone has this purpose, as I'm sure you do, and like there's lives that they can change and there's people that they can love.And if you are not in a place where you feel loved or feel happy or feel respected, you can't show up in the world No. And give people Renee Bauer: anything. No. When I was in that second bad marriage, and that one was really toxic, I was an awful boss. I was an awful lawyer. I was an, I was, uh, not a very good or present parent.I wasn't a good friend. Like I was just, I, I was, I was my worst version. Like I could not possibly shine light on anyone else because I was sitting in so much darkness. Lesley Logan: Yeah. Yeah. Um, How do you prepare people to go through the steps of a divorce? Like, are there things that they, that we should, that we, I'm not gonna include myself.I'm doing great, but are there things that people can, [00:27:00] um, can, like, think about and consider? Because obviously there's the filing, but then like, you know, depending on what state you live, and it could be months long, there's all these things. So like what are some things like emotionally though that they could, we could think about to, to, to go through that process?Renee Bauer: Uh, find, find your tribe. Find a support system. Um, that may not include friends and family. So those people who are around you now, they're really well intentioned, but they may not be the best person to go to. So find a community of people, and there's so many of them out there in, in this world, and pri like, I have a private Facebook group for divorced women, but find a really positive tribe of people who get what you're going through.Um, so you don't feel so alone in it. And the other thing is make sure it, you know, start to put the steps in place to educate yourself and, um, like I had mentioned, start gathering financial documents. Meet with a couple lawyers. Don't just go to a person who's someone recommended. Uh, go and have a couple consultations, even if they're paid.And trust your gut. Like, who, [00:28:00] how do you feel about this person? Can you work with them, um, and make sure you're making a decision based on what. What they offer, like is it aligned with how you wanna go through the process? Um, because a lot of times people will hire someone because they heard through the grapevine, someone's cousin's uncle, use this person.They had a good experience. Well, they might not be the right person for you. So just like, keep checking in with your gut. And like having some grace in recognizing it's going to be really hard. Just bring yourself back to center to remind yourself this is still the right decision, even if it's hard. And you get that right support around you outside of the court, inside the court, um, and everything in between.And just keep like your eye on the prize and recognizing like, this is just a moment. It's a moment. It might last a while, it might last a year, but it's a moment and there will be a time when you'll start to feel really, really good about your decision. Lesley Logan: Yeah. I, I love that you said find a tribe. I think, um, because it might not be your friends and family, cuz there's, [00:29:00] it's like telling a coworker you're gonna leave a job.Even that's like, they're gonna be like, oh, should you be doing that? Well, what about your vacation? Yeah. What about this? And it's, and they're projecting their fear of for themselves about the change in the life that you leaving is going to make. And so they might not be the best people to, to talk to cuz they may, unfortunately, with all the love in the world, say the wrong thing.And, and then you're gonna feel more alone and more like you're doing the wrong thing. Yeah. Or more that you're crazy. And so I, I do think it's important to find people who, who can't do that. And also, you know, when I left my ex, when I had met him, I had just moved to LA so all of my friends were his friends.The other friends I had were like clo like acquaintances from work, but like they were all his friends. So when we, when I, when I left, like I lost everything, all the friends house, and then I totaled my car leaving. So that was its own thing. So I was like, okay, Jesus, take the wheel. Just take whatever, whatever I'm not supposed to have, just get rid of it all cuz I don't really wanna, I don't wanna [00:30:00] go through this anymore.And, um, But I was so grateful cuz I had this one friend who was introduced to me. That person did not, I did not, I only met her one time while I was with him, so she had no idea who I was then. So we just became these like best friends for a summer and she got me to the other side of that whole transition.Um, and she's also one that introduced me to Brad. So it was like a very interesting. Interesting person to have in my life, but I don't think, um, it would've been, I would've felt the same and come out the same and look back 10 years later and go, that was the fucking best thing I ever went through. Thank goodness I went through that.Renee Bauer: Yeah, I, you know, for me it was, um, I had the same thing because all, none of all of my friends were my ex's friends, so I really had like maybe one or two people in the state and I wasn't super close to them. I decide to sign up for yoga. I'm like, I'm gonna do yoga and I'm gonna show up and, and let me tell you, every time I thought to myself, every time I don't have my son when I'm miserable and when I'm like, so sad, I'm gonna go to yoga because I'm gonna fill that time.I was like putting a bandaid over it. [00:31:00] But I started to enjoy it. I started to actually get to know the community of women who went there. Then I started to do things with them outside of the studio, and I showed up even when I didn't want to. Like there were, there was a Saturday morning, I woke up. I was like sitting there over my coffee crying.I did not wanna go. I'm like, You're either gonna sit here all day and feel bad for yourself, or you gonna put some leggings on and you're gonna go to yoga and you'll probably feel better at the end. So it was like I kept forcing myself to do those things even though I didn't want to. And it made all the difference because they really became a, a group of friends during that time that I needed to, to get, get me outside of my own head out of my house.You know? So, and, and I think that's the one thing too, is just like make force yourself to put yourself in new surroundings with new people. Well, and as you're saying Lesley Logan: that, what I like I basically heard is like you're kinda like being at till you see, you're putting yourself into a space. Yeah. Where you could be the woman you wanted to be without all that negativity going on.And then you can meet people and they would get to know the Renee that you wanted people to know. And [00:32:00] so there was like this really be like, you had this like safe haven, this island. And I think like, you know, there. No matter how much money or little money you have in every community, there are community classes, there are donation only classes.There's just different things, and so, you know, try to find. Different ways that you can have a, a new tribe to meet new people and put yourself And I know for the introverts I know, I hear you. I know Renee Bauer: I'm an introvert. Yeah. So I like, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Lesley Logan: The good news is, is you don't have to talk to people during class.It's just before and after. Yeah. Um, okay. I wanna talk about what you're doing now because, um, I feel like, uh, like. When you transition to something new, and it's not like you're leaving what you're doing, but you're adding this new amazing thing. There is another element of like being, until you see it like you are the top of your game over here and now you're like starting this whole thing over here.And so how has that been going? What are you ex the most excited about right now? Renee Bauer: I love that, that, um, so, you know, imposter syndrome is a real thing and you could look at [00:33:00] someone and be like, oh, they're doing all the things and they're successful and it still sneaks in. So yeah, it's. It's le it's starting a new thing, a new company, and you start from the ground.And it's exciting though. It's like filled with possibility. Um, I don't, you know, doing it without expectation attached to it is kind of amazing too. It should be like, I'm gonna just follow what feels really good and what feels aligned and see where it brings me. So the She Who Wins, uh, summit is a live event that I created last year.Didn't know who was gonna show up. Wasn't even sure. Like I thought that I was gonna have to like, beg people to come and fill the seats. And we ended up selling out. Um, and we're doing it again in 2023 on April 29th at Mohegan Sun Casinos. So, um, it's all about coming together and being in the room together because some of the most impactful things that I've ever done is when I put myself in the room mm-hmm.And connected with other women. Women who are doing really awesome things and like authentically make, I mean, look at how you and [00:34:00] I met. Is we connected by putting ourselves in the room? Yeah. Yeah. And it's just like, it's amazing, like what you can learn from other people and that's, that was the inspiration behind it is like, let's hear from people who are doing incredible things.Let's bring them all together. Let's have some fun. It's not just education, it's some entertainment. It's, you know, getting up in some movement and be inspired and motivated, but also walk away with some actionable items that you can immediately implement in your life. Lesley Logan: I love this. I couldn't agree more and, and.You the, we were in a, in a, an awesome small. And what was so fun about our in-person is that I was, when you asked who you I, who you wanted, like we wanted more amazing women in your life. And I was like, oh, can you talk to Karine? Which Kareem was on our show, um, in the beginning. And you're like, I just met Karine.And so fu what's a really crazy and amazing is when you do put yourself in amazing spaces, you start to meet. People who know similar people and you end up very quickly in a really awesome group of people with shared, shared experiences, shared values, shared wants and [00:35:00] dreams, and then you start to propel each other forward.And the only reason I met Kareen is cuz I put myself in another room that I really didn't wanna go to. I almost like got sold my ticket. I was like, I don't really need to go to this thing. And I went Any. Anyways, and it was the best, the best thing it could have ever. The, the, the reason we're listening to this podcast is because of these rooms that I put myself in, where I was like, I got myself into place where I'm like, oh, I could do that.Oh, this is how I could do it. And I could, um, I could see those things. And too often we, we wait until we're ready or until the stars align or tell. Everything is figured out before we put ourself in a space where we would say, I don't know how to do this thing. And like the rooms that we have, we've met in, it's like, I have this problem and I don't know how to solve it.And that is so much vulnerability. And immediately you have connection with other people, Renee Bauer: and I think women are afraid in general to ask for help. And, you know, we, we take all of this stuff on and we try to balance it all. And we, we, we think that we can figure it out on ourselves. We don't want to burden other people.And there's so many [00:36:00] amazing people who want to help. And it's like, it's incredible when like, like I've learned to ask for help for things and. When I reach out to someone and be like, Hey, I need help with something, I immediately, the response is like, oh yeah. Like absolutely I can, I can send you this, or I can make this introduction like we want.So when you're surrounding yourselves with people who genuinely want to help you, like it's amazing because you never feel alone in this journey. Yeah. Lesley Logan: Yeah, I, I, I wish we, um, I would love to figure out what it is that we were taught when we were younger. Like cuz all, obviously we all got a message that, that we're not supposed to ask for help cuz it's gonna look like we don't, like we are, don't know what we're doing.Um, but it is, it is so true. Like the people I find that. All of my friends want, have, want to help. They want, like anyone you'll meet wants to be part of whatever you're creating. People want to be supportive, but we are so, we are like, I gotta do it all on my own. Like the be like, it doesn't matter unless I did it myself.Renee Bauer: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I have, I have like a story of that trying to get into college, get into [00:37:00] law school, and it was someone who knew someone who could help me get into the school. I'm like, no, I don't want the introduction. I'm gonna do it on my. Oh, you know, and then when the rejection rolled in, I was like, oh shit.You know, maybe I should have asked for the help. But yeah, I don't know where it comes from, but that's how, that's how I always felt. It was like, I'm not strong enough, or it doesn't, it's not, it doesn't matter or it's not an achievement. Yeah. If I have to actually ask someone to assist me. Lesley Logan: Yeah, it's, um, yeah, that's just, it's, it's so funny.So ladies, everything you need to hear is like, ask for help because people actually wanna help you. And also it does, it's not a reflection on you that you like, no one is like, oh, that person she asked for help. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Renee Bauer: and you know what, and being so vulnerable about it too. Like now I'll just be like, I have a problem and here's what it is.And like, I don't care. Like, it doesn't mean that, oh, she's not as successful because she has a problem with this thing and needs, needs help. Like, no, let's not. I think that's something that, that we, cause if someone comes to me and says, Hey, I have something, can you help me with it? I don't [00:38:00] look at them and be like, huh, who are they?Like they're not, you know, they're not a successful person cuz they're asking, so why are we doing that to ourselves? Lesley Logan: Yeah. Yeah. I think the more we can start to treat ourselves the way we treat other people in all ways, I think we'll actually get a lot farther. So you're writing a book. Um, has that been a fun process?Is it been an enjoyable process? Is it like a whole new experience? Like what's it, what's it been Renee Bauer: like? Um, so I'm a writer before I am anything else? I've been writing for a really long time, just. Of even being a kid. So that was, uh, that was such a joyful process. I mean, that was, and as I started to write, I, you know, that was a journey too.It's kind of interesting cause I wrote a number of chapters and I looked back at it and I'm like, this is very surface level. It's not, uh, it's not deep enough. And I said, you know, in order to like really connect, I'm like, I think I need to like, kind of pour my heart and soul and vulnerability onto these pages.And I scrapped those chapters and said, let me start again. And let me talk about things that I've never shared before. [00:39:00] Um, so it was almost like a healing session for me cuz I thought there were things that came up that I thought were completely healed. And I'm like, oh, body image issues and weight issues and stuff like that.And all of a sudden I'm bringing up memories as I'm writing from, like when I was a kid, I'm like, where the hell did that come from? Like, I thought that that was all tucked away and dealt with. So the writing journey has been, Absolutely beautiful. The book comes out on September 5th, 2023 by Iran Publishing.Um, I'm so excited to share it with the world because it just, it like is so near and dear to, to me and Lesley Logan: oh my gosh, I can't wait for it to come out. We'll have to make sure our peeps, um, all know it's coming out because, um, it's. You're the, when you one, if you love writing, then like it's going to come across on the page.But also to be so vulnerable and to actually go deep, that is going to change it. Cuz so many books I've, I've read, I'm like, well this is great. Yeah, this is nice, this is good wallpaper. Um, but Renee Bauer: like, we don't want wall. But I find that the Lesley Logan: books that like I talk about so much are the [00:40:00] ones where I can tell the author shared in such a vulnerable way that I'm like, I can see myself, I can feel myself, I can understand it, you know, so, um, a, a recent book I read was Meta Apocalypse, and I wanna get her on the show, but like, she was so vulnerable about her story and her journey of perimenopause that I like, I actually felt like I could be in the, like, I could actually understand what she was talking about in a way I could feel it in my body and like, You know, that's another thing that I think we can, can be so hard.It's like, I don't wanna share everything because then people will know all the things. So it's like most people have gone through what you're going through and they just wanna feel seen. So if you actually just share all those dark, dirty stories that you've, you've put those labels on that are actually just experiences that you had that made you who you are, you'll have more people who are like, oh my gosh, like you've, no, you've made me feel so seen.I get you, you know? Yeah. Renee Bauer: Yeah. Yeah. And that, and that was the, the reason behind it. That was the reason behind the stories. Cuz the book isn't about me, it's just, it's moments, it's stories, it's just, uh, that tie into what we're talking about in that chapter. But it's [00:41:00] not my life story. I'm not telling you my journey from childhood to adulthood, but it's these moments that were so difficult for me and caused so much pain.Or joy moments of joy too, and laughter and stupidity. Um, stories and like some stupid things that I've done that I've been so embarrassed about. And it's like, it's the humanity of it. Mm-hmm. So if someone can read that and say, oh, I had, I didn't have that experience, but I had that similar feeling and I experienced something that, you know, was my own version of it, then, you know, I, I did my job as a writer.Yeah. And, and ultimately that's just it. I wanna move people emotionally. Lesley Logan: Yeah. Ugh. Well, I can't wait to announce, um, to our peeps when your book is ready to be purchased and all of those things. Um, Renee, we're gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you, work with you, and you'll be at action Night at school.Okay, Renee, where do you like to hang out? We know TikTok, but what are your handles? Renee Bauer: I, I actually don't like TikTok, so don't go over there. Um, Instagram's kind of my favorite, favorite place. It's at Ms. Renee Bauer, so I'm always in there responding to dms. Lesley Logan: [00:42:00] And you have a podcast. She who wins. I do. Yep. On all major platforms.Awesome. So wherever you listen to this, you guys, you can listen to that. Um, I was on that, uh, on one of the episodes and I know some of my other dear friends, but on this, so you have to go, uh, do a little binge listen, so, okay. Bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it.Renee Bauer: Yeah, so I'm bringing it back to Money. Ladies know your money. Don't be afraid to talk about money, to dig into it, to ask for it, to ask for the raise to, uh, to understand how it's serving you or how it's not serving you. And I think if we're talking about like one action item is like, treat yourself like you are the c f O of your life.Treat yourself as if you are your own business. Don't let it money rule you. You take control of it. And because that is the, it's so powerful. It gives you the courage to do things. It gives you the courage to walk away from things that aren't serving you. So don't be afraid to get really up close and personal with your money relationship.[00:43:00] Lesley Logan: Mm. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I love that so much. Brene, this is amazing. We'll have to have you back. Um, thank you so much for being you and being here. Everyone. How are we going to use these tips in your life? Let us know. Tag the be it pod tag, Ms. Renee Bauer. And until next time, be it till you see it. That's all I got for this episode of the Be Until You See a Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram.I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others be it till you see it. Have an awesome day. Be it till You see. It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell: It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Leslie Logan and me, Brad Kroll.Lesley Logan: It is produced, edited by the Epic team at Deeno. Our Brad Crowell: theme music is by Ali at Apex Production [00:44:00] Music, and our branding by designer and artist John Franco Trophy. Lesley Logan: Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals and Samina Velazquez for our transcriptions. Brad Crowell: Also to Angelina Harko for adding all the content to our website.And finally to Meredith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Renee Bauer, family law attorney, talks about new beginnings. This week's Dating Dish is: How the Language of Therapy Took Over Dating. The Dear Damona question this week is: I am looking for a relationship, but all of my dating app matches end up looking for a hookup. Is that all that's out there? Follow Renee on Instagram @MsReneeBauer and learn more about the She Who Wins summit at SheWhoWins.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode Swap with the She Who Wins Podcast We all carry trauma with us, even if we don't realize it at the time. It's embedded in our identity, seeping into our everyday actions and responses whether we are aware of it or not. But simply acknowledging its presence isn't enough to truly confront it – unpacking and processing that baggage requires real commitment. This week, we are doing something a little different and listening in on a conversation from one of our favorite podcasts, She Who Wins, and airing an episode with host, Renee Bauer and her guest, Lauren Zoeller. Lauren Zoeller is a seven-figure entrepreneur, speaker, author, and host of “The Aligned Love Podcast”. As the Founder of The Aligned Love Experience, Lauren is an expert practitioner in reparenting, generational healing, and somatic experiencing. Through her work, she created the proprietary Voice Activation Method that has been used to help thousands of men and women heal from past trauma and take ownership of their future. In this episode, the two discuss the role that trauma plays in our lives and how we can turn it into an opportunity for growth rather than something that holds us back. Connect with Renee: The She Who Wins Podcast Renee's Website   Connect with Lauren: Lauren's Website Instagram: @laurenzoeller Tiktok: @coachlaurenzoeller   If you'd like quick tangible tips and practical corporate career advice to level up your authentic leadership, download the 10 simple “plays” to stop selling out and start standing out at https://bauthenticinc.mykajabi.com/freebie   To connect with Erin and/or Nicole, email: hello@bauthenticinc.com  If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration!  Follow b Cause on Twitter (really it's mostly Nicole)   Follow Erin on LinkedIn or Instagram  Join the b Cause Podcast Facebook Group    Take our simple, fun and insightful"What's your workplace superhero name?”quiz  Unleash your Authentic Superpower with Erin's book,"You Do You (ish)" Check out our blog for more no-BS career advice Work with Us Or just buy some fun, authentic, kick-ars merch here DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsustainable for younger audiences. Tweetable Comments “Trauma is an overwhelming response to something that was too fast, too much or too soon for your body to properly process what's happening.” “When you're in this manic state of, I need to achieve, I need to get things done, what is your body telling you in that moment? Because when you can start learning that language, Then, you can start using the tools to regulate your system.” “Your truth is your birth right.” “It's important that we all learn to reparent ourselves. We all become self-healers because at some point we've had trauma.”  

Episode Swap with the She Who Wins Podcast We all carry trauma with us, even if we don't realize it at the time. It's embedded in our identity, seeping into our everyday actions and responses whether we are aware of it or not. But simply acknowledging its presence isn't enough to truly confront it – unpacking and processing that baggage requires real commitment. This week, we are doing something a little different and listening in on a conversation from one of our favorite podcasts, She Who Wins, and airing an episode with host, Renee Bauer and her guest, Lauren Zoeller. Lauren Zoeller is a seven-figure entrepreneur, speaker, author, and host of “The Aligned Love Podcast”. As the Founder of The Aligned Love Experience, Lauren is an expert practitioner in reparenting, generational healing, and somatic experiencing. Through her work, she created the proprietary Voice Activation Method that has been used to help thousands of men and women heal from past trauma and take ownership of their future. In this episode, the two discuss the role that trauma plays in our lives and how we can turn it into an opportunity for growth rather than something that holds us back. Connect with Renee: The She Who Wins Podcast Renee's Website   Connect with Lauren: Lauren's Website Instagram: @laurenzoeller Tiktok: @coachlaurenzoeller   If you'd like quick tangible tips and practical corporate career advice to level up your authentic leadership, download the 10 simple “plays” to stop selling out and start standing out at https://bauthenticinc.mykajabi.com/freebie   To connect with Erin and/or Nicole, email: hello@bauthenticinc.com  If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration!  Follow b Cause on Twitter (really it's mostly Nicole)   Follow Erin on LinkedIn or Instagram  Join the b Cause Podcast Facebook Group    Take our simple, fun and insightful"What's your workplace superhero name?”quiz  Unleash your Authentic Superpower with Erin's book,"You Do You (ish)" Check out our blog for more no-BS career advice Work with Us Or just buy some fun, authentic, kick-ars merch here DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsustainable for younger audiences. Tweetable Comments “Trauma is an overwhelming response to something that was too fast, too much or too soon for your body to properly process what's happening.” “When you're in this manic state of, I need to achieve, I need to get things done, what is your body telling you in that moment? Because when you can start learning that language, Then, you can start using the tools to regulate your system.” “Your truth is your birth right.” “It's important that we all learn to reparent ourselves. We all become self-healers because at some point we've had trauma.”  

Are you getting divorced and don't know where to start? We have the answers in this month's virtual Open House event on Wednesday Jan 11 at 7pm EST! Our guests are divorce lawyers, mediators, co-parenting experts, divorce coach and forensic accountant and fraud coach. You'll be able to ask all of your questions and get them answered live by: Renee Bauer, Brian Martel, Tracy Coenen and Jennifer Warren Medwin - plus US! Even if you can't attend live, if you register for a ticket you can send in your questions and get them answered so you can watch the replay! Go to www.exexperts.com for tickets and use the code SAVE for $10 off! Follow us on TikTok and Instagram @exexperts. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/divorceetc/message

Join us as we discuss taking messy action on planning and hosting a first event with Ms. Renée Bauer! Renee is hosting her second annual event, She Who Wins, April 28 - 29, 2023 in Connecticut! https://shewhowins.com/ Renee is an award-winning divorce attorney, published author, and founder of the Happy Even After Family Law. With almost two decades of experience, Renée is committed to empowering all women to redefine their sense of peace and purpose in their new life. Renée's insights are sought after by national and international media outlets, podcasts, and conferences where she speaks on entrepreneurship and women empowerment. As an accomplished litigator, she boldly educates and inspires women to reclaim their right to happiness. She is the host of She Who Wins Summit live events. Her book by the same name will be released in 2023 by Urano Publishing. Connect with Renee! https://shewhowins.com/ https://www.instagram.com/she.who.wins/ Sarah Brush xo Connect with me at Sarah Brush (@eventivebrush) • Instagram photos and videos

We don't celebrate failing. We should fail proudly and share our failures. Just show up imperfectly. ~ Renee Bauer How many times have you failed in your life? Beginning with childhood (babies fall around 17 times an hour learning to walk!) the answer is probably zillions–so, a lot. As children, we innately recognize that failure is a part of learning. And as we absorb the lessons of each failure, we come that much closer to success. It's only as we begin to know shame and embarrassment that failure becomes FAILURE!!! and we neglect to recognize its value. The other downside of our relationship with failure is that it makes us afraid to try. Our friend Renee Bauer knows “failure” in what many think of as the traditional meaning of the word. She's also chosen to take intentional action to not only learn from her failures, but use them to propel her forward both personally and professionally. Twice divorced and now happily married in a blended family, Renee built a legal practice serving individuals who couldn't imagine a happily ever after by encouraging a mindset change along with imperfect action and courage with hard decisions. She also inspires women around the world with her She Who Wins Summit. Tune in to hear more of Renee's wisdom on this week's edition of the Brilliantly Resilient podcast and start on the path towards your happily even after. Let's be Brilliantly Resilient together! XO, KS & MFB

You may think that you can only be happy if you are in a positive situation and if everything is working out and going according to plan. But did you know that you can still find happiness in difficult situations? Pursuing your purpose and redefining your happiness can sometimes mean stepping outside of your comfort zone in order for you to grow, whether by starting a new business, changing careers, or leaving a toxic relationship or friendship.Happiness is what Renée Bauer advocates for. She's an award-winning divorce lawyer and the founder of She Who Wins, where women are empowered to be their best selves and create their own “happily ever after” despite the hurdles and the struggles they've been through.Renée's website - https://msreneebauer.com/Connect with Renée on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rbauer1Follow Renée on Twitter - https://twitter.com/msreneebauerFollow Renée on Twitter - https://instagram.com/msreneebauerFollow Renée on Instagram - https://instagram.com/msreneebauer

Hi! I'm so happy you're here! Today I'm interviewing my friend, Renee Bauer. Renée is an entrepreneur, author, peacemaker, and blended family aficionado. And she is dedicated to helping you find your Happy Even After. She's won awards, faced her fear of public speaking, litigated cases in a courtroom, and grew a business from nothing but a folding table into a thriving family law firm in Connecticut. She's been divorced (twice), so she gets it. She has an awesome son and 3 stepkids. She's now married to a man who is her partner in every sense of the word. …but those bumps and bruises along the way led her to the happiest, most complete, most purposeful version of herself today. She believes that doing the big, scary, uncomfortable thing can be the most rewarding and fulfilling experience of your life!Contact Renee! https://msreneebauer.com/https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/Book CarrieVee for a Speaking Engagement: https://www.coachcarriev.com/contact-meRadical Empowerment Method Book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3Bdp2BCContact CarrieVee!IG: @iamcarrieveeLI and FB: Carrie Verrocchioemail: carriev@coachcarriev.com

Welcoming back Renee Bauer!In this quick teaser episode Host: Wanda Toro Turini, Founder of Rock-it Fuel, Inventor of Ketchwords.com chats with Renee Bauer, Founder of Happy Even After LLC.Renee Bauer is on a mission to help all women believe that it is also possible for them to create a life they love and become the most amazing versions of themselves.Don't miss our guest's FREE audience gift...Text BELIEVE to 411321 to receive “Believe Yourself Badass” plus additional Happy Even After resources to help you achieve a life you'll freakin' love! (Text BELIEVE to +1-909-741-1321 via text or WhatsApp if you're outside of the US)If you are a high-achieving entrepreneur who loves to connect with other experts and realizes that visibility is "rock-it fuel" for your business...Join the exclusive Rock-it Fuel Podcast Community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rockitfuelpodcastMaybe YOU'LL be our next Rock-it Fuel Guest Expert?Find Wanda on: Ketchwords BasicFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/wanda.turiniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wandaturini/ Find Renee:Home - Ms Renée BauerFacebook: Happy Even After Family LawLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rbauer1/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/?hl=en 

Do you try to avoid confrontation at all costs? Do you run in the opposite direction instead of having the difficult conversation? In today's episode Michelle talks with award winning attorney Renee Bauer who has had her share of confrontation about how to handle difficult people and situation. Renee gives up 4 Tips on how to have a productive conversation instead of a screaming match. You'll learn the BIFF method as well as the best time to have these difficult conversations. 

In this episode Host: Wanda Toro Turini, Founder of Rock-it Fuel, Inventor of Ketchwords.com chats with Renee Bauer, Founder of Happy Even After LLC.Renee Bauer is on a mission to help all women believe that it is also possible for them to create a life they love and become the most amazing versions of themselves.Don't miss our guest's FREE audience gift...Text BELIEVE to 411321 to receive “Believe Yourself Badass” plus additional Happy Even After resources to help you achieve a life you'll freakin' love! (Text BELIEVE to +1-909-741-1321 via text or WhatsApp if you're outside of the US)If you are a high-achieving entrepreneur who loves to connect with other experts and realizes that visibility is "rock-it fuel" for your business...Join the exclusive Rock-it Fuel Podcast Community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rockitfuelpodcastMaybe YOU'LL be our next Rock-it Fuel Guest Expert?Find Wanda on:Ketchwords BasicFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/wanda.turiniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wandaturini/ Find Renee:Home - Ms Renée BauerFacebook:Happy Even After Family LawLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rbauer1/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/?hl=en 

Renee and I are going to talk candidly about what it's like to be a Divorce Attorney, how it impacts her own marriage and family and what are the most important things you should know when hiring a family lawyer / attorney for your own situation. Renee is also an expert in establishing the right mindset when going through Divorce and we are going to dig into some tough questions: If you're the one who wants the divorce, how do you deal with the guilt of breaking up the family – how do you reconcile that guilt with your own happiness? You're used to being with your kids 24/7 and that's all going to change - how do you handle feeling like you're missing out on so much? When women go through a divorce they often end up angry or bitter and if they don't want to feel that way what can they do to prevent it?

Renee and I are going to talk candidly about what it's like to be a Divorce Attorney, how it impacts her own marriage and family and what are the most important things you should know when hiring a family lawyer / attorney for your own situation. Renee is also an expert in establishing the right mindset when going through Divorce and we are going to dig into some tough questions: If you're the one who wants the divorce, how do you deal with the guilt of breaking up the family – how do you reconcile that guilt with your own happiness? You're used to being with your kids 24/7 and that's all going to change - how do you handle feeling like you're missing out on so much? When women go through a divorce they often end up angry or bitter and if they don't want to feel that way what can they do to prevent it?

The goal in every divorce is to find yourself "Happy Even After", and Renee Bauer is both an exEXPERT as a divorce lawyer, as well as a REAL LIFE expert, having been divorced twice herself. Renee Bauer talks candidly about her own experiences, which include her own feelings of shame and why she didn't used to reveal her own situation to her clients. Hear firsthand about going through divorce as a divorce lawyer, and how Renee has turned her story into a way to help everyone else going through it! (Guest: Renee Bauer, Divorce Attorney, "Happy Even After" host) Follow us on IG @exexperts

After her second divorce, Renee Bauer found herself compartmentalizing her life. On the outside, she was a professional and successful attorney, but on the inside, the shame and self-doubt were becoming too much to handle.    When Renee finally started talking, she realized that telling her story helped to destigmatize the shame she felt, along with the shame others felt too.    This week's podcast guest, Renee Bauer, is a divorce attorney, author, and host of the Happy Even After Podcast. She is committed to educating and empowering women to use their divorce as an opportunity to create a life they love. Having gone through 2 divorces herself and having lived in the shame of it all, it's her mission to remove the stigma of divorce so no one has to suffer in silence. Renee is convinced that when we follow our intuition, it will all work out exactly the way it's supposed to, and we too can be happy, even after the divorce.   Learn more about Renee Bauer by visiting her website at www.msreneebauer.com and check out her free mini video course called ‘First Steps to Freedom.'   https://course.thedcourse.com/free-video-opt-in1614706932884 

Making light of a heavy situation doesn't mean it doesn't matter it only means there is life after problems. Renee speaks on how she went through, knowing she would see the light regardless of the darkness. Life doesn't stop when things don't work out the way we planned them, so why would we. Pick yourself up and recreate the new you.Take away: Date yourselfRecreate Yourself Show up For Yourself Sit in Quietness and Find You AgainPodcast: Happy Even After website: www.familylawyerct.commsreneebauer.com

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On the newest episode of We Chat Divorce we're joined by Renee Bauer, Esq. to discuss The Art of Re-Invention – Divorcing Without Shame. Renee Bauer is an award-winning divorce attorney, author, podcast host, and champion of finding your Happy Even After. She boldly educates and inspires women about divorce so they can move into their next chapter with confidence. She is the creator of The D Course, an online educational course designed to help save thousands of dollars in legal fees. Renee is regularly sought out by media to comment on trending family law issues. She is the Founder of Happy Even After Family Law located in Connecticut.    Learn More >> https://msreneebauer.com   Connect with Renee Bauer, Esq. on LinkedIn >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rbauer1/   The We Chat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of Shanahan, Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of work.  WCD should not be used in any legal capacity whatsoever.  Listeners should contact their attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular legal matter. No listener should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on WCD without first seeking legal advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of any statements or opinions made on WCD.    Unless specifically stated otherwise, Shanahan and Chellew do not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. 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Each podcast, Catherine and Karen, sit down with divorce professionals and other individuals who provide insight and Frank discussion about real people, real situations, and real divorce. Welcome to We Chat Divorce, Catherine and I are so happy today to welcome Attorney Renee Bauer to our podcast. In this episode, we're going to discuss the Art of Re-invention - Divorcing Without Shame. But first let me take a couple minutes to introduce Renee. Renee Bauer is an award winning divorce attorney, a published author, and founder of the family law firm Bauer Law Group. Renee's insights are sought after by local, national, and international media outlets, podcasts, and conferences, where she speaks on co-parenting blended family dynamics, relationships, and the art of reinvention as an accomplished litigator. She boldly educates and inspires women to reclaim their right to happiness through her online course, The D Course, love that and her podcast Happy Even After. Welcome Renee. Renee: Good morning, Ladies. How are you? Catherine: Good. We're so happy to have you, not only because of your expertise, but for your enthusiasm that you bring to a very difficult topic basically. ou know, you've been a divorce attorney for so long, and now you found the courage to talk about your own experiences with divorce. What gave you that courage to do that? Renee: Yeah, so, you know, it was really, really difficult. And for most of my career, I showed off in the way I thought a lawyer was supposed to show up, you know, all buttoned up and I was putting on an act and I would go into court and represent my clients and do the job that I thought I was supposed to do. But when I got home from at night and I kind of stripped away the suit in, in the act, it was, I was like a broken version of myself because I never talked about not just one divorce, but two divorces that I've had. And because I was filled with so much shame and I really had no intention of talking about it. I thought this was just something I was going to keep to myself forever and kind of just live with it. And one day a good friend of mine had started a podcast and she said, “Hey, I want to have you on as a guest. And I'm going to bring some sushi over, we'll have a couple drinks. I'm going to ask you questions.” And at that point I didn't listen to podcasts. I was just like, okay, like, I'll answer some questions for sushi. I can do that. And then she came over, we ate a ton. She clipped the mic on me. And for the first time ever, I spoke about my divorce and she asked these questions and I actually answered them. And when that podcast episode dropped, I was inundated with messages and emails and DMS from other women who said, that was my story too. Thank you for sharing. One woman said she sat in her hotel room and just sobbed because she never, she felt so alone during her divorce. And here she was listening to someone else talk about what they were going through. And at that point I knew I needed to stop being the buttoned up version of myself and really strip away those filters and start sharing my real story and start being vulnerable, which is so hard to do as, you know, a type A perfectionist of just really showing up and saying, hey this is me. This is what I went through. And it's definitely been a process, but it has been so rewarding because I've  just connected with so many people that way. And I've heard so many incredible stories and was inspired to start my own podcast because of that.   Catherine: You know, it's great that you say all of that because we talk about what it does for the other women, you know, the three of us developing through them or to the other side, right. So we know where they, where they are currently probably. But when you tell your own story and I've experienced this myself, you know, that vulnerability is very hard to do. But when you do it afterwards, you really you're healing yourself further. You know, you realize that there is still more healing. We all need to always improve. So when sharing your story, not only is that woman's sobbing in her room feeling a sense of relief because she realizes she's normal, but then I bet you went home too, and you probably shed your own tears saying, wow, I let that out. It's like something I was hiding from and it's okay. Right. Is that how you feel? Yeah. And, you know, especially the second divorce, like that was just such a moment of embarrassment and almost humiliation like the marriage was in, I was in and out of it so fast before like a season was up, but there was so much shame from that one and, you know, coming out the other side in inch and I, I you're right. You're completely right. I'd never really healed from that. Like I was still holding onto it and now I talk about it so much. And so frequently as just something that has just happened, there's no emotion attached to it. It's like, all right, it's just part of my story. And it allows me to do the work that I do now. It taught me to be a better partner and spouse for my current husband now, because I really learned from, from that. And, you know, if you, the more you talk about it, the, the more detached you are as if this is something that's so substantial and so impactful to who you are as a person. And it becomes so much less than that. And it's just, okay, this is just one chapter in my book is really, really thick. So I'm going to turn the next page, but you're completely right. The more we talk about our stories and share them there is just this healing process that happens for the person who's listening to that. And the person who's actually speaking it. Karen: Yeah. Renee, were you in the attorney during your divorces where you practicing family law attorney? Renee: Yeah. And you know what, there's the embarrassment of having to go into court and go into the courtroom on the day that I was getting divorced and standing there amongst the judges that I regularly practice in front of and some colleagues you know, that was so much shame there, which is crazy because it's like, why. You know, I do this every single day. Why was I so attached to this? And you know, there's so many reasons for that - generational upbringing and you know all of the societal upbringing that what we're taught about divorce. So even though I can work in that space and help other people through it, when I was going through it myself, it was just, you know, I got brought back to those moments of being a child and, you know, learning about friends whose parents were getting divorced or hearing my own parents talk about divorce and, you know, just, just whatever relative said. And just those things that you brought up thinking and attaching to that word. So yeah, it was, it was really, really difficult. And there was such a a difference between what I was doing in my work every single day and my personal life. And it wasn't until those two blended that I really stepped into who I am, what I was meant to do. And just in complete alignment with my life. Like there was definitely a disconnect before that time. Karen: So did they blend, or did they collide? I'm just wondering. Renee: It's all semantics. You know, I think that it was a collision at first and now it blends. I think that, you know, there was some was so much resistance at the very beginning and even my current husband and I like had to sit down and have a conversation about me speaking and being so public about it in a way that I never had before, because it was so personal. Like I kept everything to myself and now I was thrusting our family kind of into the social media world and speaking about it and sharing things, never sharing things about the exes. Cause that's not what it was about, that doesn't help you heal, but just short of sharing about our life in my journey. And so there was some resistance at the beginning because that was something my, my husband was uncomfortable with. He was like, I don't know about this. And I'm like, I get it. It's hard, it's hard for me, but you know, this is going to happen and we're going to do it. And now it's going to get easier each day and now it's, you know, he's totally comfortable with it. So there's definitely the collision at the very beginning and now it's blended beautifully. Catherine: Oh, that's awesome. You know, and I think a lot of shame comes from a lot of guilt, you know, as our generation, we're all in the same generation or actually we might be a little older than you, but you know, we're, we're expected to play our role and play it perfectly. And we're expected to do so many different things perfectly. And not only are we expected by others, but we expect it of ourselves a lot of times. And so we feel so guilty about not being able to, you know, meet up with the expectations of staying married forever or the shame as you say, getting divorced the second time, because it just didn't work out. Why do we carry all that guilt and shame on ourselves? You know, it's not until you get into your fifties that you start releasing some of that where, you know, it just doesn't matter. You know, the twenties and the thirties and the forties are just about sometimes almost everybody else, but yourself and that's what needs to change. You know, we don't need to be, feel shameful or guilty because our marriage didn't last as long as it was supposed to, by the guidelines that are put out there. You know, I don't say my marriage was a failure. You know, I was married 20 years. That's what the person, 23 years, I just say it lasts as long as it was supposed to, you know, and I think we need to change the mindset and the dialogue on how we treat others, you know? And when we look at somebody who's a divorcee, you know, so it's okay. You don't have to say, I'm so sorry for you. You know, you can say congratulations for moving forward with getting through that. Yeah. Renee: Yeah. And it's not contagious. It's like, you know, you say that you're divorced and you know, some reaction is like, oh, well, didn't, you want to try to make it work? Or, you know, oh, well, there's plenty of fish in the sea. And they kind of like, step back a little bit from you as if like they can catch it, but you're so right. And you know, what I think you said is so important is the guilt of walking away from something that just isn't good enough. Like it's okay to have to be married to someone who is a good person and not the right fit for you. And to be able to say, you know what, we're just not living in alignment. Maybe our values are different. Maybe would just adjust, it's come to completion and being able to walk away from that because there's something not something better that you're looking for, but it's just not the relationship that you want for yourself. And you walk away. Not because you're looking for there's someone waiting in the wings, but you walk away because you're choosing yourself. And I think that I, and I'm sure you guys hear it too, but there are so many women who will say, you know, my husband's a good person. He's a good father. And so what's wrong with me that I'm not fulfilled. And I think that that's, you know, there's so much work to be done there. And that's, you know, that was my first marriage. Like there was nothing wrong with it, but it wasn't, it wasn't a good fit. And, you know, he went on to marry someone who was his perfect match in every sense of the word. And so did I and you know, and it's, it's kind of like breaks my heart to think of people who stay and they kind of jam themselves into our relationship because they think that if, if, unless it's abusive or unless it's like really bad, then there's no reason for them to be unhappy. And that's where that guilt comes in because they feel guilty about wanting something different than what they have. Catherine: Just sad because we all change. You know, we hear a lot of people say, oh, our spouse says you change. Not the same person I was married to. That's why I want a divorce. You know? Well, of course we all change. You know, hopefully I change every day. I pray that I become a better person tomorrow. Right. So it's okay to change. And as you're saying, if over those years 20, and we have a lot of 30 year marriage is coming to us 20 years or five years, whatever it is, if your outlook has changed in life, listen, let the spice goes by so fast. That's okay. You don't have to feel guilty about it. You know, it is your right to be happy. And we see that a lot on the financial side, because there's a lot of shame and a lot of confusion and sadness or fear that they're going to leave this marriage. They don't have to take, they're not happy, but at least everything's taken care of because they don't understand it. And once they start getting the financial knowledge that they need, whether they have to go to work or not, it doesn't matter. But once they get that Renee, you should see their faces, you know, they just transform into, oh my gosh, I'm feeling a little bit more empowered. I'm embarrassed that I didn't know that information. You know, we always say, it's okay. You know, you did the best you could at the time you're doing it. But once you gain that kind of knowledge, some you get to move forward right. In the positive direction for yourself. Renee: Yeah. I have a client that I like to use as an example for exactly what you're talking about. And she was in a long-term marriage. Her husband did everything, paid the bills, took care of the house. And she had a really comfortable life. It was not a good marriage. It wasn't horribly bad, but it certainly was not good. And she would've stayed forever because she was afraid of what was going to happen on the other side. And so she was forced into this divorce situation. She knew she would have stayed married, had he wanted to. And she was so afraid of paying her own bills, taking care of the house and all of that. Having to go back to work full time. And it was about a year after her divorce that she reached out to me and said, I have never been so happy in my entire life. And I didn't even know that I was so unhappy until I was forced into this situation. And she said, she bought her house. She was paying her own bills. She was financially responsible. She was saving money. And, you know, she was just so happy that she was forced into this situation. And I'm like, that's you know, that's the example. That's the success story of just because you don't know it now, does it mean you can't learn it? And there's so much power when you start to really understand what money looks like and, and the finances and you take control of it. You're no longer just sitting back, waiting for things to happen for you. You become the driver and that's, you know, that's amazing. That's incredible. Catherine: That is incredible. And if you're listening, you know, that that woman took on a very courageous journey, but it was not easy. So a lot of people look at us, probably the three of us and many others that we talked to is I want to get to where you are now, you know, I'm 10 years out, right? So I want to get to where you are now, but I had to do that work too. You know, I cried every day for years, you know, I went through my ex saying to me, who has a better marriage than ours, ours is fine. Who, whose other marriage do you want? And I always said, it's not about the other people's marriage. It's about what I want, you know, the happiness I want. But it it's a journey to get through that. So if you're listening, give yourself a time so that you can be the success story of that woman as well, which is so exciting to hear. Renee: Yeah. And, and I think that that's so important too, is just to have some grace and allow yourself to heal and not jump into something else. Don't try to quick fix your emotions by jumping into another relationship. Like really give yourself that space that you can, and it's okay to cry. It's okay to miss your kids on the weekends. You don't have them. We all have gone through that, but you just continue putting one foot in front of the other and keep moving forward. And that's how you get out the other side.   Karen: I love that. So I see a tip here is give yourself space. What's some more tips that you have to help people divorce without shame, because I'm going to guess it's a high percentage of people that do have a significant amount of shame navigating this challenging process. Renee: Yeah. And so, you know, there's so many bad things about social media, but I think there's so many good things too. And I think that there are so many communities of people going through something similar and so many resources out there. So I'd say find a community that you feel comfortable in enjoying that. There's so many really amazing people doing this work and in this space and surround yourself with some, with other people who know what it's like, and they get it and they can say, I see you. I felt all of that attend events. Like the one that you put together that's a great place to connect with other women and make lifelong friendships. In addition to being inspired and excited about your future. And then just give yourself time. And like I said, don't jump into anything like it's, I think it's your initial reaction is to want to get some attention, want to mask the pain that you're feeling and you start dating before you're ready. And now you're just, you're covering up without actually healing. And so really before you jumped back into the dating world to make sure you're ready to do that, and you're doing it because you, you are ready to date, not because you're trying to fill the void to fill the time when you missed your kids. Catherine: Yeah. Do you think that's what you did and the second time around? Renee: Well, I actually did that right after my first divorce, I jumped into dating and that didn't work. That was not my second husband. Then there was time in between that. So, you know, who knows, who knows how many, what mistakes I made the second time around. You know, I think that that was just not giving the relationship enough space to let everything reveal itself. I think that that was just jumping too quickly into something and ignoring the red flags you know. Catherine: Love that Renee, not giving yourself enough space to let everything reveal itself. That is so powerful. And I think that we need to write that down and take that away because it's so true. You know, men and women, nobody wants to be lonely and everyone, and as we get older, everyone says, I don't want to be alone. I hear it from both sides, the men and the women. Right. So I always remember saying, you know, just because to my friends, I'm sitting here alone by myself. I'm really not lonely. Like I enjoyed watching the TV by myself. I enjoyed not having to cook for my kids finally for a night. You know, I learned to like embrace that and it really is cathartic. And it is something that we need, I guess it's the self care, right? Which is the best care that we need to start embracing, especially as women, because we're all, we're big givers and we're always taking care of something. But to take that time, even when you're going through the divorce to pause and look at what you need, you know, and give yourself the time to see what it is that you need from a companion, if that's what it is that you want.   Renee: And that's, that's exactly the takeaway that I have as to this day is because when I did create that time and really learned how to be by myself and do things that filled me up, it's something that I still crave. And even in a current relationship in married, it's still something that I make time for. And, you know, an example is I went to Vegas recently with my husband and he was traveling for work. And I spent the day kayaking down the Colorado river by myself. And it was, it was, you know, I don't need, I don't need someone else to be there with me. Like, this is something that just filled me up and it was that self-care. And it was being in nature and being by myself, it wasn't being lonely. It was doing something by myself. And you really, when you give yourself that space, you learn how to do that. And when you're comfortable being by yourself, you don't need to fit the type, fit someone in there. You will if you're with someone and it feels good and you're having fun and it's joyful, then that's fine. But when you start to see the red flags, you're able to walk away and say, you know what, this doesn't serve me. And I don't need you just to keep me company because I can keep myself company. Then I think that that's important is that you're really paying attention to those red flags. We all have had them in bad relationships. And when we've allowed them to linger a little too long, that's when you see the, the divorce or, you know, the relationship not work out. But it's taken some time to get there. So pay attention right at the beginning and you know, really dial into what those red flags feel like in your body and pay attention to them. And don't try to make excuses for them. It's, it's your gut instinct telling you that something just isn't right. And it's okay to walk away from that. Catherine: Yeah. I'd like to set up, I would like to set a challenge out there if you're listening to this podcast, because I do believe that with that self-care, you will release some of the shame and the guilt that you feel. So Renee, we heard that you just went kayaking in Vegas by yourself and really had a great time. So if you're listening, challenge yourself, what will you do this week today, this month to challenge yourself, to be by yourself and Karen, I think you and I will have to think of something too. I know Karen recently went out and I was so proud of her. I'm a little bit more of an extrovert. So I go out and do a lot of things, but Karen is more of an introvert, not in a negative way at all. I'm not saying that, but I said to her, go do pickleball by yourself. You don't need your friends all around you to go with ego due to a group that you don't know anyone. And she ended up doing that and she could talk about her experience. I'm not talking for her, but I will boast for her because she was the champion of a tournament that they had. And she would have never done that probably years ago, but found the courage to do it. And how did you feel after you did that for yourself? Like what kind of self-care was that? Karen: That was incredible because you are right. I am an introvert. And when I hear both of you talking about those things by yourself, I know for myself and for a lot of our clients, that's a really hard thing because, you know, for most of our lives, we're just around a lot of people. But I did take that challenge and I did sign up for a tournament. And so my first experience walking onto the courts was, oh, God, I don't know where to go. I don't know who to talk to. I don't even know if I'm in the right group here, cause you have to assign yourself a level to compete. So, you know, I just kept stepping up and asking questions and, you know, taking the next step and the worst case scenario I could walk away. But I never felt like doing that. I met some really great people and I had a really good time. So it was a great experience. So I do encourage anyone to just take small steps if that's your first step. Because we do have to do really hard things in our lives. And that piece of it is important, especially when you're in a life-changing situation, which divorce is. And we have lots of them to really know who you are inside. And I love that you encourage your clients and the people that are around you to do that because it is important. Yeah. So I have a question because you're challenging people to do hard things. That's can be a very hard thing from a self-care perspective, but when people are divorcing, they have to do really hard things from a tangible perspective, meaning make really good informed decisions for themselves and value themselves enough to make really clear financial and legal decisions. And sometimes it's really super hard because you're walking into a vortex of chaos. It seems sometime, and you don't know what's right and what's wrong and you're getting opinions from everybody. And sometimes you're you feel vulnerable and intimidated. So how much do you assign that as being as the art of reinvention, because going through divorce begins that art of reinvention. So can you talk a little bit about that? Renee: Sure. That's a great question. You know, I think that one of the mistakes that lawyers see clients make is the client comes in and says, okay, I hired the lawyer and now I don't have to do anything. And I'm going to let this lawyer do all of the work and speak for me. And I'm just going to follow the advice. And I think that that's a big mistake. There are lots of lawyers out there. Some of them do better jobs than others. Some have different value systems in terms of how they practice and whether they are pushing things to litigation or more settlement minded. And you really need to take control as a client of your own situation and become informed and ask the lawyer every step of the way, why things are being done or ask questions and not just allow or rely on the professional to tell you the way something is supposed to be done. Because at the end of the day when you sign that divorce agreement, you have to live with it. And if there's something you don't understand, or there's something that you absolutely hate, that's in there, then you need to be sure that that's being addressed before your signature goes on that page. And you know, we say lawyers say all the time that no agreement is perfect. And usually both sides are a little bit unhappy with the agreement, which is true, but you also have to start to prioritize what's important and have your goal lists. And you know, like what's the number one thing that's so important to you that you don't want to negotiate on, or it's more important for that piece than something else. So you can give up something else in order to get that. And you have to be the one to set those goals and not yet let your lawyer or any of the professional set them for you. So I think that the most important piece of it is educate yourself and ask, don't be intimidated or afraid to ask questions of the professionals and don't let any professional bully you into an agreement that you don't like. They're supposed to be working for you. They're supposed to be guiding you and counseling you and advising you of all of the, maybe the different variables if you pursue it in court or not, but you are allowed to ask questions and make sure you understand so that you're not just kind of being pushed into something that you don't like. So education and being a self advocate are the most important pieces. Karen: I love that you say that. Catherine: Sorry. Karen: Yeah, it is. I spend a lot of time with clients at the table with their attorney and other professionals and they do take that. It's almost a relief. Okay. It's in their hands. I'm good to go. And I'll say, well, now it's even more important that you're engaged because they're your advocate. They're not the boss. So they, they need to be directed by you. You come to the table and you, as an attorney, you need to know what do you want and why do you want it? And then you can do your job. And I think to your point, a lot of people don't understand that. And then they end up very confused and very frustrated. Renee: There's lots of lawyers that will just try to jam an agreement down their client's throat just to be done with it. And they, they won't listen to them or they won't recognize what their goals are in the hierarchy of those goals. And instead, they're just going to tell them that you need to do this because this is what's on the table and you're not going to get something better in court. And I think just having a better conversation, a more communication with your lawyer in order to head to, to get on the same page. So you both are working towards the same goal and a lot of times that doesn't happen. Catherine: Yeah. So even if you take pause and take on the challenge of doing something by yourself, for yourself, that might be the space that you need to get the courage to ask those really good questions or to listen to your gut. Women have a really good, strong gut reaction to things and look at the red flags and write those things down and take it to your attorney and ask those questions, you know, because you'll become more powerful by the more questions you ask. Renee: Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.   Catherine: Yeah. Karen: So Renee, do you have a final tip for everyone? I'm sure it may relate to your Happy Even After podcast or The D course. What would you like to leave with everyone today? Renee: I would say that you have to start turning inward to find solutions to the things that are keeping you up at night. So, so often what happens is someone looks at their acts and says, they're the reason for all of my misery. They're the reason I don't have enough money, or they might look to their lawyer and say, they're the reason that I, you know, I didn't get enough. And they're looking constantly for external answers, things that are keeping them up and are causing them concern. And when you flip that switch and you say, okay, what can I do to fix this problem? Or what can I do to make sure I have enough money to pay my bills? Or what can I do when I'm missing my kids, you're starting to provide your, provide your own solutions. And I think that is the key to coming out the other side of divorce, to thrive in past divorce and to really finding your happy even after is to stop blaming and looking back, stop looking in the past and just look forward and have the courage to rely on yourself and the strength to say, I am all that I need in order to make it out the other end. And because you have all of the power and you have everything you need inside of you, you just have to tap into it, believe in it. Karen: I love that. Absolutely. Okay. Renee, where should people go if they want to connect with you or learn more about you? Sure. Instagram is my favorite place to hang out. So you can find me there at Ms. Renee Bauer. And then from there, you can link up to everything else I have going on. Wonderful. Okay. Well, this concludes our episode on the art of re-invention divorcing without shame. Thank you, Renee, for a great conversation.   Renee: Thank you so much.

The life you love is not a dream. It won't always be easy, but it's possible! If you want to create a life that works for you and not against you, if you want to change your life, you have to change your mind first.    We all have the same 24 hours in a day, and it's up to you to make the most of it. When you're looking for ways to create the life you love, you may need to take the time to assess what roadblocks you need to overcome and get rid of anything that is standing in your way of achieving your goals.   I'm excited to share with you our guest Renee Bauer, Owner, Attorney, Author and Podcast Host of Happy Even After, LLC. Renee is dedicated to educating people to make to the otherside of divorce and into their next chapter and helps them embrace the power to create a life they love.   Main Topics: Divorce is so overwhelming – where does someone even begin? How do you know when it's time to file for divorce? What does a successful divorce look like?  Key Takeaways: You have the power to create a life you love.  There isn't any shame in saying "good enough" isn't good enough.  Our stories are meant to be messy and your divorce is just one moment in your full, messy life 

Renee Bauer is the mastermind behind a Connecticut divorce and family law firm branded as Happy Even After Family Law. The enterprise also includes the Happy Even After Podcast and the D Course with Ms. Renee Bauer. Renee has taken the traditional law firm business to another level. She has paid her dues though. She built her firm from the ground up, wearing various hats as a litigator simultaneously handling the business end of things. She found that should could be more effective, help more people and be happier herself if she focused on building the law firm. The turning point really came when she was authentic. She shared her personal story of divorce, not once but twice, and it spoke to her audience. Now she's on a mission to help others so they can be Happy Even After, too. Included in this conversation: Talking about her own divorce The personal shame of divorce What her divorce experience looked like Being authentic in her business Scaling her business Creating the D Course How she backed out of practicing law How she incorporated her brands What her 5-year plan was (and what really happened) How she attacks marketing Her business plans for the future How she grew her Instagram following If you liked this episode, please share it with your friends and colleagues! DM me if there are any topics or guests you would like to see or hear on Wake Up Call. Watch special livestream editions of Wake Up Call LIVE! on Facebook. Follow me on Instagram and Twitter. You can also watch these episodes on YouTube.

In the latest episode of the Empowerography Podcast, my guest is Renee Bauer. An entrepreneur, author, peacemaker, and blended family aficionado. …and I am dedicated to helping you find your Happy Even After. I was born in the suburbs of Boston, Mass and I have an accent that loves to sneak out of my mouth when I'm excited, angry, or just because I spent a weekend with my family. I've won awards, faced my fear of public speaking, litigated cases in a courtroom, and grew a business from nothing but a folding table into a thriving family law firm in Connecticut. I've been divorced (twice) so I get it. I have an awesome son and 3 stepkids. I am now married to a man who is my partner in every sense of the word. …but those bumps and bruises along the way led me to the happiest, most complete, most purposeful version of myself today. I believe that doing the big, scary, uncomfortable thing can be the most rewarding and fulfilling experience of your life. In this episode we discuss divorce, mindset, coaching, podcasting, being a lawyer, leadership, divorce education and personal struggle. Website - https://www.msreneebauer.com                 https://www.familylawyerct.com                 https://www.thedcourse.com IG - https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/ Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happy-even-after-with-ms-renee-bauer/id1519600005 "I always had this vision that I wanted to do things on a grander scale" - 00:02:08 "The leaders who are the most influential leaders..." 00:20:57 "Every new thing that I do, I go in with this expectation it might not work out" - 00:46:13 Empowerography would like to offer you a discount code to one of our exclusive partners, Quartz & Canary Jewelry & Wellness Co. Please use CODE EMPOWER15 to receive 15% off upon check out at www.quartzandcanary.com. Quartz & Canary is truly the place, where spirituality meets style.

In the latest episode of the Empowerography Podcast, my guest is Renee Bauer. An entrepreneur, author, peacemaker, and blended family aficionado. …and I am dedicated to helping you find your Happy Even After. I was born in the suburbs of Boston, Mass and I have an accent that loves to sneak out of my mouth when I'm excited, angry, or just because I spent a weekend with my family. I've won awards, faced my fear of public speaking, litigated cases in a courtroom, and grew a business from nothing but a folding table into a thriving family law firm in Connecticut. I've been divorced (twice) so I get it. I have an awesome son and 3 stepkids. I am now married to a man who is my partner in every sense of the word. …but those bumps and bruises along the way led me to the happiest, most complete, most purposeful version of myself today. I believe that doing the big, scary, uncomfortable thing can be the most rewarding and fulfilling experience of your life. In this episode we discuss divorce, mindset, coaching, podcasting, being a lawyer, leadership, divorce education and personal struggle. Website - https://www.msreneebauer.com                 https://www.familylawyerct.com                 https://www.thedcourse.com IG - https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/ Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happy-even-after-with-ms-renee-bauer/id1519600005 "I always had this vision that I wanted to do things on a grander scale" - 00:02:08 "The leaders who are the most influential leaders..." 00:20:57 "Every new thing that I do, I go in with this expectation it might not work out" - 00:46:13 Empowerography would like to offer you a discount code to one of our exclusive partners, Quartz & Canary Jewelry & Wellness Co. Please use CODE EMPOWER15 to receive 15% off upon check out at www.quartzandcanary.com. Quartz & Canary is truly the place, where spirituality meets style.

“Winning a divorce is not about what you financially gain from it. It's about how each of you become financially independent and thrive mentally, and being a healthier human being.” -- Renee Bauer  Divorce attorney, Renée Bauer, isn't ashamed to admit she's been divorced twice, but that hasn't always been the case.  Renée's second marriage came to an end while she was counseling clients through the very same thing — yet, she felt too embarrassed to tell anyone how well she could relate to the shame and sadness they felt about getting divorced. When Renée finally opened up about her second divorce, her law firm and digital platform became busier than ever before. Renée realized that discussing her personal story in a professional setting wasn't inappropriate; instead, it has helped her make even more authentic connections with her clients at a time when they need it most.  On this episode of Live & Earn, Renée challenges the myth that divorce is something to be ashamed of. She also stresses the importance of financial independence and the one conversation you can't afford not to have before getting married.  What we tackle in this episode:  Why you must talk about money with your partner before marriage  The #1 source of conflict in marriages  Why you should discuss a prenup – but don't necessarily have to have one  How bad finances prolong bad marriages The importance of financial freedom  Overcoming the shame and embarrassment of divorce Resources and links mentioned in episode:  https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/ https://renee4c30b8.clickfunnels.com/auto-webinar-registrationtmosnv7p https://course.thedcourse.com/optinmdu2lxlm https://msreneebauer.com/  --- Ready to crush your income goals?  Grab your FREE 1-Page Business Revenue Planner to help you stay on top of your income goals and track your progress throughout the year.   Get your copy by visiting  https://helenngo.com/revenueplanner/

In this episode, Alay and Renee discuss:  Renee's professional leap to creating her own law firm after discovering her love … Attorney Entrepreneurship with Renee Bauer Read More »

Society, family, friends, and even that voice inside ourselves – they all tell us that divorce and heartbreak are an ending. But what if it could be the beginning of finding your own joy and choosing yourself?Our guest this week is Renee Bauer: she's an award-winning divorce attorney, published author, and founder of the family law firm, Bauer Law Group. She's also been through two divorces, and knows firsthand the stereotypes and shaming that often comes with this decision. Mel and Renee each tell their own divorce stories, including how those choices led them on paths to true happiness. Listen in to hear more about what they've learned about love, how self-abandonment can appear in a marriage, and how to tune into your own happiness, no matter what.What You Will Learn: 2:40: Mel begins to tell her own story of divorce and why she and her ex-husband both needed to escape their marriage. 5:27: How the unraveling of Mel's marriage led to the unraveling of her Christian faith 7:31: Mel explains what was said to her during her divorce that led her to feeling the worst shame she had ever felt in her life. 10:31: How Mel abandoned herself for the sake of the institution of marriage15:00: Mel describes the process of writing vows to herself after her divorce17:52: Renee introduces herself, including her history with divorce, both in her personal and professional life. 19:47: Renee explains the hardest part about her first divorce, and why “good enough” wasn't good enough for her anymore. 22:44: The story of Renee's second marriage and divorce, and why she still wouldn't trade that experience25:25: The ways in which people abandon themselves for the sake of marriage and why they tune out their own happiness 28:12: The advice that Renee would tell women who are in the midst of divorce or heartbreak31:40: What Renee would tell people about grieving the end of a relationship and why it's important not to “quick-fix” it 34:45: How women can find their joy again after a divorce or heartbreak 36:15: What Renee has learned about love 39:44: How Renee creates space in her own life and relationship43:23: The ways in which Renee lives a life she doesn't need a vacation from, including what her “happy place” isRelevant Links: Visit Renee's website to learn more about her courses, programs, and podcast: https://msreneebauer.com/Follow Renee on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/Read Mel's vows to herself: https://www.melodymiles.com/blog-posts/2018/7/10/blog-headline-3-b9mgpFree Soulcation Daily Planning Page: https://www.melodymiles.com/daily-planning-pageFollow Mel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulcationmel/Purchase the Soulcation Planner: https://www.melodymiles.com/soulcation-planner 

About ReneeMs. Renée Bauer is an award-winning divorce attorney, published author, and founder of the family law firm, Bauer Law Group.Renée’s insights are sought after by local, national and international media outlets, podcasts, and conferences where she speaks on co-parenting, blended family dynamics, relationships, and the art of reinvention. As an accomplished litigator, she boldly educates and inspires women to reclaim their right to happiness through her online course, the d∙course and podcast, Happy Even After.Renee has a son and 3 stepkids. After going through her own divorce, she is now married to a man who is her true partner in every sense of the word. She believes that doing the big, scary, uncomfortable thing can be the most rewarding and fulfilling experience of your life.Connect with Renee:  https://msreneebauer.com/the-d-course/ | https://msreneebauer.com | https://msreneebauer.com/parent-copilot-guide/ | Instagram.com/msreneebauer  | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCttlmwiTWIb2k4bIknwm8uQ | https://www.facebook.com/msreneebauerConnect with Justin: Instagram.com/kellerthinks | Circlefifty.com | medium.com/@kellerthinks | fb.com/kellerthinks | twitter.com/kellerthinks | TikTok.com/@kellerthinks Resources mentioned in this episode: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/201809/biff-4-ways-respond-hostile-comments

So many women are going through divorce, but so few are actually talking about it.    Meet award-winning divorce attorney, published author, and founder of Bauer Law Group - Renee Bauer.   With nearly two decades of experience, Renee is committed to empowering all women to redefine their sense of peace and purpose in their new life.    She is the host of the “Happy Even After” podcast that teaches women how to get through their divorce with their sanity intact and find their own version of happy.    Is the prospect of getting through your divorce totally daunting? How about life after divorce? Renee Bauer, Esq., the author of the ‘D-Course' knows all about how to face shame and uncertainty, having been divorced twice, she gets it. She will teach you how to create strategies for having the right mindset both during and after divorce.    You can get her free video course on her website “First Steps to Freedom” https://msreneebauer.com/   Here is another free video course and info about Renee's "D-Course"  http://www.thedcourse.com/?affiliate_id=2865389 (This is affiliate links which means if you buy her course here, we'll receive a small commission.)

I'm SO excited to be collaborating with Renee Bauer. Renée is an award-winning divorce attorney, published author, and founder of the family law firm, Bauer Law Group.Renée's insights are sought after by local, national and international media outlets, podcasts, and conferences where she speaks on co-parenting, blended family dynamics, relationships, and the art of reinvention. As an accomplished litigator, she boldly educates and inspires women to reclaim their right to happiness through her online course, the d∙course and podcast, Happy Even After. What attracted me to Renee is that she isn't your run-of-the-mill divorce attorney. It's her mission to educate and empower women to make the best decisions for their life and to thrive and be happy "even" after divorce.In this episode we talk about:Renee's StoryThe Art of ReinventionLife After DivorceTurning down the hype of Valentine's DayToxic PositivityAnd much much moreSupport Renee:Listen to Renee's podcast : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happy-even-after-with-ms-renee-bauer/id1519600005Follow Renee on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msreneebauer/Renee's website: https://msreneebauer.com/  https://www.familylawyerct.com/Want more?Private 1:1 coaching, 90 day program : The RaptureFollow Soni or Direct Message on Instagram, https://www.instagram.com/sonipelty/Join Private Facebook GroupSoulmate Manifestation Map - https://limitlesslovewithsoni.com/products/soulmate-manifestation-mapSoulmate Manifestation Intensive - https://limitlesslovewithsoni.com/products/soulmate-manifestation-map-intensive

An amazing conversation with Ms. Renee Bauer! Renee is an award-winning divorce attorney, author, and founder of the family law firm, Bauer Law Group. She's also the host of the podcast Happy Even After with Ms. Renee Bauer. Renee's is committed to empowering women to help them work through the challenges of divorce and to recognize that even after a divorce, you do deserve happiness, peace, and a sense of purpose and she is here to help make that happen. Renee offers plenty of value if you or someone you know is going through a divorce. Check out her D.Course which is linked in her IG bio or on her website. Thank you for being my guest Renee! Check her out on Instagram @msreneebauer Renee's website: msreneebauer.com Twitter: @msreneebauer --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/zachrance/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/zachrance/support

One of the byproducts of the COVID pandemic is that divorce rates have gone up. Often the things that are taboo are the hardest to talk about, but I feel it takes extreme times to speak up and be honest about our inner happiness and truth. Today's guest Renee Bauer is an entrepreneur, author, peacemaker and blended family aficionado. …and is dedicated to helping you find your Happy Even After. She is also someone who speaks truthfully about uncomfortable topics and believes wholely that we deserve to live our most rewarding and fulfilling life experiences.   Renee is a mom of a four (including 3 step kids) who has won awards, faced her fear of public speaking, litigated cases in a courtroom, and grew a business from nothing but a folding table into a thriving family law firm in Connecticut.   She has been divorced (twice) and now is married to a man who is her partner in every sense of the word. …those bumps and bruises along the way led her to the happiest, most complete, most purposeful version of herself today. I believe that doing the big, scary, uncomfortable thing can be the most rewarding and fulfilling experience of your life.   Today we talk about:  How to get rid of shame or “less than-ness” in any facet of our lives whether it is our relationship, jobs or life choices. Renee's story and how she went from litigator to entrepreneur/divorce specialist  Why big life changes like divorce don't have to be the end of our happiness  How we can truly start over Why it's okay to go against the status quo and follow our truth  How to know when enough is enough  Why it's okay to leave a marriage if you are unhappy. Doesn't mean your partner is a "bad person." Why Renee is a proponent of working on our marriages Why she is a proponent of couples and individual therapy, but how to know when it is no longer working  How to approach divorce in an empathetic and loving way Why mediation is a much preferred method to litigation How to keep your family in tact after a divorce Why being amicable during the process is important for the future of co-parenting and for your kids Other benefits of mediation  How our kids pick up on their parent's being unhappy  Why two happy homes is better than one toxic one  Why Renee moved from litigator to entrepreneurship  How to live the life of our dreams and why we deserve it  Mamas! How are you doing during this time of social isolation? Come follow me @soulmammaspodcast where I go live on subjects pertinent to what's going on in the world now, and tools and tips for mama self care during this time.  Find your Soul Mamma Calling in FOUR STEPS FREE PDF Keep an eye out for my new site where you can check out past episodes, free pdf's, coaching links and my NEW COURSE Uncover your Purpose in Ten Steps! Super excited about this one mamas! email me nicole@soulmammas.com for questions.  New PDF on the website https://www.soulmammas.com Pick Up your Freebie on Stepping into your Soul as Mammas today!  Follow me on Instagram here!   

Divorce attorney, author, and podcast host Renee Bauer shares that the best way to get to the other side of a life-shattering experience is to think, write about, and paint a picture of how you want your life to be, and then make that a reality. She learned this lesson while enduring the shame and guilt of divorce.   Find Renee at msreneebauer.com, as well as on Instagram and Twitter: @msreneebauer. Listen to her podcast, Happy Even After™️, on Google, Apple, Spotify, and Stitcher.

Renée strongly believes that reconfigured families can work. This is a philosophy she applies to her job in the office and her job at home as a mom and stepmom to four children. Recognizing that people need reliable information about divorce, Renée penned the book Divorce in Connecticut, which can be found in every library throughout the state. Then one day she realized that children needed a resource also to help them understand divorce and with her son's help, she authored the children's book, Percy's Imperfectly Perfect Family. Renée is active in the legal community both presenting legal education seminars and regularly writing articles on family law. She is called upon by newspapers, radio shows, and even television reporters to comment on current legal topics. She frequently speaks at workshops for teenage girls on empowerment and self-worth. https://www.familylawyerct.com/our-team/renee-c-bauer/

The guest this week needs no introduction she is an award-winning divorce attorney, Renee Bauer! She and I discuss how divorce affects every facet of our mental health. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/talkswithtwyla/message

In this episode, we talk divorce, **red flags**, prenups, and more, with divorce attorney Renee Bauer.

One person gets divorced every 36 seconds. Divorce is not a fun. There is a lot of pain and shame that go with it. In today's episode I speak with divorce attorney Renee Bauer on how to navigate through divorce proceedings so you can set yourself up with the tools you'll need to walk away Happy Even After you get divorced.  Show Notes: How do you know when it's tie to get divorced? How do you tell your children? What are the first steps you need to take before you file papers to get divorced? There are many different avenues to take in getting a divorce, 1) traditional litigation, 2) Mediation and 3) Collaboration.  You need to take responsibility and start advocating for yourself. Here are the 7 steps you need to take:  1- Educate and Research: Find out what type of divorce you want. 2- Interview at least 2-3 lawyers 3- Build Your Team: therapist/coach, accountant, and financial advisor. If you can't afford to hire all of these people here are the areas you need to make sure you're covered in: Mental Health (have someone you can speak with that is not friends/family) Accountant (need to know your assets and how much money you have) Financial Advisor (you need to think about your retirement, budget and savings) 4- Communicate with your attorney during the divorce. 5- Write down your goals. It's helpful before you start the process to know what your main goals are. 6- After the divorce, find time to reacquaint with yourself. Dedicate time for self-care and think about what you want. 7- Let go of the negativity and use it as an opportunity to learn something new. Realize that divorce is going to change your Lifestyle. It's about both of you coming to an agreement that is not perfect, and you probably both have it a little bit.  One of the biggest problems that people get stuck on is who gets the house. That might not be the best thing for either party with many financial obligations that come with the house.  Divorce is hard. Allow yourself time to grieve and to sit in the mud.  Ms. Renee Bauer is an award-winning divorce attorney, published author, and founder of the family law firm, Bauer Law Group. With almost two decades of experience representing countless high net-worth clients, she is committed to empowering all women to redefine their sense of peace and purpose in their new life. She is certified as a Guardian Ad Litem, Attorney for the Minor Child, and Collaborative Attorney. Renee is also a certified Mediator receiving her training from mediation pioneer, Forrest “Woody” Mosten, of Beverly Hills.  Renee's insights are sought after by local and regional media outlets, podcasts, and conferences where she speaks on co-parenting, blended family dynamics, relationships, and the art of reinvention. Having walked this path herself, Renee knows what it feels like to face uncertainty, shame, and the fear of losing life as she knew it. As an accomplished litigator, she boldly educates and inspires women to reclaim their right to happiness through her online course, the d∙course and podcast, Happy Even After™. You can contact her at: @msreneebauer on Instagram or www.facebook.com/msreneebauer

Infusion nurses manage care for patients of all ages and in all care settings. Many have multiple therapeutic needs, including mental health care. A holistic nursing approach is important when managing care for patients with mental health conditions. Listening attentively, asking open-ended questions, practicing presence of self, and developing therapeutic relationships are essential elements of providing nursing care. Listen in as Dr. Renee Bauer discusses her passion for psychiatric nursing and communication methods that will strengthen your nursing skills.