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La storia di Sayyida al Hurra, la sultana corsara del Marocco, una figura tanto incredibile da diventare leggendaIscriviti al canale Telegram per guardare tutta la lista di tutti gli eventi (ad oggi) confermati ed avvisatemi se ne conoscete altri Mentre qui trovate tutti i link di Medio Oriente e Dintorni: Linktree, ma, andando un po' nel dettaglio: -Tutti gli aggiornamenti sulla pagina instagram @medioorienteedintorni -Per articoli visitate il sito https://mediorientedintorni.com/ trovate anche la "versione articolo" di questo podcast. - Qui il link al canale Youtube- Podcast su tutte le principali piattaforme in Italia e del mondo-Vuoi tutte le uscite in tempo reale? Iscriviti al gruppo Telegram: https://t.me/mediorientedintorniOgni like, condivisione o supporto è ben accetto e mi aiuta a dedicarmi sempre di più alla mia passione: raccontare il Medio Oriente ed il "mondo islamico"

Nobody knows her real name. But this "Uncontested Pirate Queen of the Western Mediterranean" certainly earned her title: the Sayyida al Hurra, the Free and Independent Woman. From child refugee fleeing the Spanish Inquisition, to ruling Governor of Tetouan, to the Sultana of Morocco - Sayyida was never one to follow the path society had laid out for her. Author Laura Sook Duncome helps us uncover the mystery of the one and only actual Pirate Queen. Music featured in this episode provided by Farya Faraji, Astron, The Tides, Doug Maxwell, The Mini Vandals, and Patrick Patrikios. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode also appears as a video episode on our YouTube channel, you can find it here: "What Travel in Morocco Was Like in 1989"----World traveller Cathy Nesbitt joins Azdean on today's episode with a special story of visiting Morocco way back in 1989.Cathy and her future husband arrived off the boat in Ceuta, thinking they were already in Morocco, but a crash course in geopolitics and navigation quickly got them to the actual border within a few minutes.From there, they found themselves in Tetouan, with a local guide, being hussled to a carpet emporium. Sounds like your classic tourist scam, right? Cathy shares with us a twist though in the story, and her memories and feelings about the encounter, from over 35 years later.Fortunately for her, and for us, they continued on into Morocco to visit many familiar sites that were only just starting to show signs of tourism fame. It was a different time to travel, without technology and easy translation, credit cards and bank machines, or the kind of transport and comforts that we are used to now. And yet it was a trip that left many indellible memories, which she shares with us today. Azdean, in turn, talks about how places like Marrakech, Chefchaouen and Casablanca have changed since Cathy visited: in some ways a lot, in others, Morocco remains timeless.Cathy is a yoga teacher who offers free online yoga sessions every Tuesday morning, you can check her out here:http://cathysclub.com/ Do you dream of exploring the enchanting land of Morocco?Destination Morocco is your ultimate travel experience for those seeking luxury and adventure. We specialize in crafting bespoke itineraries tailored to your unique tastes and desires.If you're a discerning traveler who values an immersive, curated adventure, visit www.destinationsmorocco.com, and let us bring your dream Moroccan vacation to life.Learn more about Azdean and Destination Morocco.Explore our Private Tours and Small Group Tours!

Raised in the Judería or Jewish quarter of Tetouan, Morocco, at the turn of the 20th-century, sixteen-year-old Mazaltob finds herself betrothed to José, an uncouth man from her own community who has returned from Argentina to take a wife. Mazaltob, however, is in love with Jean, who is French, half-Jewish, and a free spirit. In this classic of North African Jewish fiction, Blanche Bendahan evokes the two compelling forces tearing Mazaltob apart in her body and soul: her loyalty to the Judería and her powerful desire to follow her own voice and find true love. Bendahan's nuanced and moving novel is a masterly exploration of the language, religion, and quotidian customs constraining North African Jewish women on the cusp of emancipation and decolonization. Yaëlle Azagury and Frances Malino provide the first English translation of this modern coming-of-age tale, awarded a prize by the Académie Française in 1930, and analyze the ways in which Mazaltob, with its disconcerting blend of ethnographic details and modernist experimentation, is the first of its genre—that of the feminist Sephardi novel. A historical introduction, a literary analysis, and annotations elucidate historical and cultural terms for readers, supplementing the author's original notes. Blanche Bendahan was born in Oran, Algeria on November 26, 1893, to a Jewish family of Moroccan-Spanish origin. Bendahan published her first collection of poetry, La voile sur l'eau, in 1926 and then her first novel, Mazaltob, in 1930. Yaëlle Azagury is a writer, literary scholar, and critic. She was Lecturer in French and Francophone Studies at Barnard College, and Lecturer in Discipline in the English and Comparative Literature Department at Columbia University. She is a native of Tangier, Morocco. Frances Malino is the Sophia Moses Robison Professor of Jewish Studies and History Emerita at Wellesley College. Her current project is titled Teaching Freedom: Jewish Sisters in Muslim Lands. In 2012 she was named Chevalier dans l'Ordre des Palmes académiques by the French Ministry of Education. Azagury and Malino were finalists of the 74th Nation­al Jew­ish Book Awards in the category of Sephardic Culture. Mentioned in the podcast: • Blanche Bendahan,“Visages de Tétouan,” Les Cahiers de L'Alliance Israélite Universelle (Paix et Droit), no. 093 (November 1955): 5. • Susan Gilson Miller, “Gender and the Poetics and Emancipation: The Alliance Israélite Universelle in Northern Morocco (1890-1912).” In Franco-Arab Encounters, edited by L. Carl Brown and Matthew Gordon (1996) • Susan Gilson Miller, “Moïse Nahon and the Invention of the Modern Maghribi Jew.” In  French Mediterraneans, edited by P. Lorcin and T. Shepard (2016) • Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time (À la recherche du temps perdu published in seven volumes, previously translated as Remembrance of Things Past) (1913–1927) • Edward W. Said, Orientalism, 25th anniversary edition (1994) • Female teachers of the Alliance israélite universelle • Jewish figures in the literature of The Tharaud Brothers • Archives of the Alliance israélite universelle (AIU) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

Raised in the Judería or Jewish quarter of Tetouan, Morocco, at the turn of the 20th-century, sixteen-year-old Mazaltob finds herself betrothed to José, an uncouth man from her own community who has returned from Argentina to take a wife. Mazaltob, however, is in love with Jean, who is French, half-Jewish, and a free spirit. In this classic of North African Jewish fiction, Blanche Bendahan evokes the two compelling forces tearing Mazaltob apart in her body and soul: her loyalty to the Judería and her powerful desire to follow her own voice and find true love. Bendahan's nuanced and moving novel is a masterly exploration of the language, religion, and quotidian customs constraining North African Jewish women on the cusp of emancipation and decolonization. Yaëlle Azagury and Frances Malino provide the first English translation of this modern coming-of-age tale, awarded a prize by the Académie Française in 1930, and analyze the ways in which Mazaltob, with its disconcerting blend of ethnographic details and modernist experimentation, is the first of its genre—that of the feminist Sephardi novel. A historical introduction, a literary analysis, and annotations elucidate historical and cultural terms for readers, supplementing the author's original notes. Blanche Bendahan was born in Oran, Algeria on November 26, 1893, to a Jewish family of Moroccan-Spanish origin. Bendahan published her first collection of poetry, La voile sur l'eau, in 1926 and then her first novel, Mazaltob, in 1930. Yaëlle Azagury is a writer, literary scholar, and critic. She was Lecturer in French and Francophone Studies at Barnard College, and Lecturer in Discipline in the English and Comparative Literature Department at Columbia University. She is a native of Tangier, Morocco. Frances Malino is the Sophia Moses Robison Professor of Jewish Studies and History Emerita at Wellesley College. Her current project is titled Teaching Freedom: Jewish Sisters in Muslim Lands. In 2012 she was named Chevalier dans l'Ordre des Palmes académiques by the French Ministry of Education. Azagury and Malino were finalists of the 74th Nation­al Jew­ish Book Awards in the category of Sephardic Culture. Mentioned in the podcast: • Blanche Bendahan,“Visages de Tétouan,” Les Cahiers de L'Alliance Israélite Universelle (Paix et Droit), no. 093 (November 1955): 5. • Susan Gilson Miller, “Gender and the Poetics and Emancipation: The Alliance Israélite Universelle in Northern Morocco (1890-1912).” In Franco-Arab Encounters, edited by L. Carl Brown and Matthew Gordon (1996) • Susan Gilson Miller, “Moïse Nahon and the Invention of the Modern Maghribi Jew.” In  French Mediterraneans, edited by P. Lorcin and T. Shepard (2016) • Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time (À la recherche du temps perdu published in seven volumes, previously translated as Remembrance of Things Past) (1913–1927) • Edward W. Said, Orientalism, 25th anniversary edition (1994) • Female teachers of the Alliance israélite universelle • Jewish figures in the literature of The Tharaud Brothers • Archives of the Alliance israélite universelle (AIU) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/literary-studies

Raised in the Judería or Jewish quarter of Tetouan, Morocco, at the turn of the 20th-century, sixteen-year-old Mazaltob finds herself betrothed to José, an uncouth man from her own community who has returned from Argentina to take a wife. Mazaltob, however, is in love with Jean, who is French, half-Jewish, and a free spirit. In this classic of North African Jewish fiction, Blanche Bendahan evokes the two compelling forces tearing Mazaltob apart in her body and soul: her loyalty to the Judería and her powerful desire to follow her own voice and find true love. Bendahan's nuanced and moving novel is a masterly exploration of the language, religion, and quotidian customs constraining North African Jewish women on the cusp of emancipation and decolonization. Yaëlle Azagury and Frances Malino provide the first English translation of this modern coming-of-age tale, awarded a prize by the Académie Française in 1930, and analyze the ways in which Mazaltob, with its disconcerting blend of ethnographic details and modernist experimentation, is the first of its genre—that of the feminist Sephardi novel. A historical introduction, a literary analysis, and annotations elucidate historical and cultural terms for readers, supplementing the author's original notes. Blanche Bendahan was born in Oran, Algeria on November 26, 1893, to a Jewish family of Moroccan-Spanish origin. Bendahan published her first collection of poetry, La voile sur l'eau, in 1926 and then her first novel, Mazaltob, in 1930. Yaëlle Azagury is a writer, literary scholar, and critic. She was Lecturer in French and Francophone Studies at Barnard College, and Lecturer in Discipline in the English and Comparative Literature Department at Columbia University. She is a native of Tangier, Morocco. Frances Malino is the Sophia Moses Robison Professor of Jewish Studies and History Emerita at Wellesley College. Her current project is titled Teaching Freedom: Jewish Sisters in Muslim Lands. In 2012 she was named Chevalier dans l'Ordre des Palmes académiques by the French Ministry of Education. Azagury and Malino were finalists of the 74th Nation­al Jew­ish Book Awards in the category of Sephardic Culture. Mentioned in the podcast: • Blanche Bendahan,“Visages de Tétouan,” Les Cahiers de L'Alliance Israélite Universelle (Paix et Droit), no. 093 (November 1955): 5. • Susan Gilson Miller, “Gender and the Poetics and Emancipation: The Alliance Israélite Universelle in Northern Morocco (1890-1912).” In Franco-Arab Encounters, edited by L. Carl Brown and Matthew Gordon (1996) • Susan Gilson Miller, “Moïse Nahon and the Invention of the Modern Maghribi Jew.” In  French Mediterraneans, edited by P. Lorcin and T. Shepard (2016) • Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time (À la recherche du temps perdu published in seven volumes, previously translated as Remembrance of Things Past) (1913–1927) • Edward W. Said, Orientalism, 25th anniversary edition (1994) • Female teachers of the Alliance israélite universelle • Jewish figures in the literature of The Tharaud Brothers • Archives of the Alliance israélite universelle (AIU) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/jewish-studies

Raised in the Judería or Jewish quarter of Tetouan, Morocco, at the turn of the 20th-century, sixteen-year-old Mazaltob finds herself betrothed to José, an uncouth man from her own community who has returned from Argentina to take a wife. Mazaltob, however, is in love with Jean, who is French, half-Jewish, and a free spirit. In this classic of North African Jewish fiction, Blanche Bendahan evokes the two compelling forces tearing Mazaltob apart in her body and soul: her loyalty to the Judería and her powerful desire to follow her own voice and find true love. Bendahan's nuanced and moving novel is a masterly exploration of the language, religion, and quotidian customs constraining North African Jewish women on the cusp of emancipation and decolonization. Yaëlle Azagury and Frances Malino provide the first English translation of this modern coming-of-age tale, awarded a prize by the Académie Française in 1930, and analyze the ways in which Mazaltob, with its disconcerting blend of ethnographic details and modernist experimentation, is the first of its genre—that of the feminist Sephardi novel. A historical introduction, a literary analysis, and annotations elucidate historical and cultural terms for readers, supplementing the author's original notes. Blanche Bendahan was born in Oran, Algeria on November 26, 1893, to a Jewish family of Moroccan-Spanish origin. Bendahan published her first collection of poetry, La voile sur l'eau, in 1926 and then her first novel, Mazaltob, in 1930. Yaëlle Azagury is a writer, literary scholar, and critic. She was Lecturer in French and Francophone Studies at Barnard College, and Lecturer in Discipline in the English and Comparative Literature Department at Columbia University. She is a native of Tangier, Morocco. Frances Malino is the Sophia Moses Robison Professor of Jewish Studies and History Emerita at Wellesley College. Her current project is titled Teaching Freedom: Jewish Sisters in Muslim Lands. In 2012 she was named Chevalier dans l'Ordre des Palmes académiques by the French Ministry of Education. Azagury and Malino were finalists of the 74th Nation­al Jew­ish Book Awards in the category of Sephardic Culture. Mentioned in the podcast: • Blanche Bendahan,“Visages de Tétouan,” Les Cahiers de L'Alliance Israélite Universelle (Paix et Droit), no. 093 (November 1955): 5. • Susan Gilson Miller, “Gender and the Poetics and Emancipation: The Alliance Israélite Universelle in Northern Morocco (1890-1912).” In Franco-Arab Encounters, edited by L. Carl Brown and Matthew Gordon (1996) • Susan Gilson Miller, “Moïse Nahon and the Invention of the Modern Maghribi Jew.” In  French Mediterraneans, edited by P. Lorcin and T. Shepard (2016) • Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time (À la recherche du temps perdu published in seven volumes, previously translated as Remembrance of Things Past) (1913–1927) • Edward W. Said, Orientalism, 25th anniversary edition (1994) • Female teachers of the Alliance israélite universelle • Jewish figures in the literature of The Tharaud Brothers • Archives of the Alliance israélite universelle (AIU) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/middle-eastern-studies

Raised in the Judería or Jewish quarter of Tetouan, Morocco, at the turn of the 20th-century, sixteen-year-old Mazaltob finds herself betrothed to José, an uncouth man from her own community who has returned from Argentina to take a wife. Mazaltob, however, is in love with Jean, who is French, half-Jewish, and a free spirit. In this classic of North African Jewish fiction, Blanche Bendahan evokes the two compelling forces tearing Mazaltob apart in her body and soul: her loyalty to the Judería and her powerful desire to follow her own voice and find true love. Bendahan's nuanced and moving novel is a masterly exploration of the language, religion, and quotidian customs constraining North African Jewish women on the cusp of emancipation and decolonization. Yaëlle Azagury and Frances Malino provide the first English translation of this modern coming-of-age tale, awarded a prize by the Académie Française in 1930, and analyze the ways in which Mazaltob, with its disconcerting blend of ethnographic details and modernist experimentation, is the first of its genre—that of the feminist Sephardi novel. A historical introduction, a literary analysis, and annotations elucidate historical and cultural terms for readers, supplementing the author's original notes. Blanche Bendahan was born in Oran, Algeria on November 26, 1893, to a Jewish family of Moroccan-Spanish origin. Bendahan published her first collection of poetry, La voile sur l'eau, in 1926 and then her first novel, Mazaltob, in 1930. Yaëlle Azagury is a writer, literary scholar, and critic. She was Lecturer in French and Francophone Studies at Barnard College, and Lecturer in Discipline in the English and Comparative Literature Department at Columbia University. She is a native of Tangier, Morocco. Frances Malino is the Sophia Moses Robison Professor of Jewish Studies and History Emerita at Wellesley College. Her current project is titled Teaching Freedom: Jewish Sisters in Muslim Lands. In 2012 she was named Chevalier dans l'Ordre des Palmes académiques by the French Ministry of Education. Azagury and Malino were finalists of the 74th Nation­al Jew­ish Book Awards in the category of Sephardic Culture. Mentioned in the podcast: • Blanche Bendahan,“Visages de Tétouan,” Les Cahiers de L'Alliance Israélite Universelle (Paix et Droit), no. 093 (November 1955): 5. • Susan Gilson Miller, “Gender and the Poetics and Emancipation: The Alliance Israélite Universelle in Northern Morocco (1890-1912).” In Franco-Arab Encounters, edited by L. Carl Brown and Matthew Gordon (1996) • Susan Gilson Miller, “Moïse Nahon and the Invention of the Modern Maghribi Jew.” In  French Mediterraneans, edited by P. Lorcin and T. Shepard (2016) • Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time (À la recherche du temps perdu published in seven volumes, previously translated as Remembrance of Things Past) (1913–1927) • Edward W. Said, Orientalism, 25th anniversary edition (1994) • Female teachers of the Alliance israélite universelle • Jewish figures in the literature of The Tharaud Brothers • Archives of the Alliance israélite universelle (AIU) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/biography

Raised in the Judería or Jewish quarter of Tetouan, Morocco, at the turn of the 20th-century, sixteen-year-old Mazaltob finds herself betrothed to José, an uncouth man from her own community who has returned from Argentina to take a wife. Mazaltob, however, is in love with Jean, who is French, half-Jewish, and a free spirit. In this classic of North African Jewish fiction, Blanche Bendahan evokes the two compelling forces tearing Mazaltob apart in her body and soul: her loyalty to the Judería and her powerful desire to follow her own voice and find true love. Bendahan's nuanced and moving novel is a masterly exploration of the language, religion, and quotidian customs constraining North African Jewish women on the cusp of emancipation and decolonization. Yaëlle Azagury and Frances Malino provide the first English translation of this modern coming-of-age tale, awarded a prize by the Académie Française in 1930, and analyze the ways in which Mazaltob, with its disconcerting blend of ethnographic details and modernist experimentation, is the first of its genre—that of the feminist Sephardi novel. A historical introduction, a literary analysis, and annotations elucidate historical and cultural terms for readers, supplementing the author's original notes. Blanche Bendahan was born in Oran, Algeria on November 26, 1893, to a Jewish family of Moroccan-Spanish origin. Bendahan published her first collection of poetry, La voile sur l'eau, in 1926 and then her first novel, Mazaltob, in 1930. Yaëlle Azagury is a writer, literary scholar, and critic. She was Lecturer in French and Francophone Studies at Barnard College, and Lecturer in Discipline in the English and Comparative Literature Department at Columbia University. She is a native of Tangier, Morocco. Frances Malino is the Sophia Moses Robison Professor of Jewish Studies and History Emerita at Wellesley College. Her current project is titled Teaching Freedom: Jewish Sisters in Muslim Lands. In 2012 she was named Chevalier dans l'Ordre des Palmes académiques by the French Ministry of Education. Azagury and Malino were finalists of the 74th Nation­al Jew­ish Book Awards in the category of Sephardic Culture. Mentioned in the podcast: • Blanche Bendahan,“Visages de Tétouan,” Les Cahiers de L'Alliance Israélite Universelle (Paix et Droit), no. 093 (November 1955): 5. • Susan Gilson Miller, “Gender and the Poetics and Emancipation: The Alliance Israélite Universelle in Northern Morocco (1890-1912).” In Franco-Arab Encounters, edited by L. Carl Brown and Matthew Gordon (1996) • Susan Gilson Miller, “Moïse Nahon and the Invention of the Modern Maghribi Jew.” In  French Mediterraneans, edited by P. Lorcin and T. Shepard (2016) • Marcel Proust, In Search of Lost Time (À la recherche du temps perdu published in seven volumes, previously translated as Remembrance of Things Past) (1913–1927) • Edward W. Said, Orientalism, 25th anniversary edition (1994) • Female teachers of the Alliance israélite universelle • Jewish figures in the literature of The Tharaud Brothers • Archives of the Alliance israélite universelle (AIU) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Born and raised on the West Coast of the US, Lucas Peters now makes Tangier his home. He's a travel writer and photographer and the author of the Moon Guide Book for Morocco. Together with his very accomplished wife, Amina, they own and operate Journey Beyond Travel, one of Morocco's most successful, sustainable tour companies.  Lucas' expertise isn't limited to Morocco though. He also wrote Moon Guide Book's Grand European Journeys: 40 Unforgettable Trips by Road, Rail, Sea & More. In November 2024, Lucas is releasing the Moon Guide Book for Sevilla, Granada and Andalusia. When he's not writing or planning remarkable journeys for his clients, Lucas, together with Amina and their two kids, spends time traveling around Morocco, exploring the small towns dotting the national roads, difficult-to-access mountain villages and crumbling kasbahs of the Sahara. On this episode, Lucas shares that in 2009, he bought a one way ticket to Morocco and never left – so he's truly on a one way ticket journey! Also in the conversation, Lucas and Host, Steven Shalowitz, touch on each of the destinations Steven visited on his recent four and a half week journey through Morocco which Lucas orchestrated. They included: Rabat, Tangier, Tetouan, Chefchaouen, Volubilis, Moulay Idriss, Meknes, Fes, Ifrane, Erfoud, the Sahara, the Atlas Mountains, Essaouira, Marrakech and Casablanca.  Plus, the two highlight everything from riads to hammams, Morocco's rich Jewish heritage to Moroccan cuisine, the method to Moroccan aesthetic madness to the proliferation of cats throughout the country, and more. For further information on Lucas, visit: http://lucasmpeters.com. And for curated, bespoke visits to Morocco, Andalusia and select other destinations, visit: http://journeybeyondtravel.com   

Episode 186: Old Marvels, New Approaches: The Revitalization of Balāgha in Moroccan Literary Studies The science of balāgha is an Arabic scholarly discipline dealing with poetics and rhetoric, one that dates back to at least the 10th century C.E. Scholars of balāgha have long studied how poets convey intellectual and emotional content to listeners by using tools such as vivid imagery, sound play, and stylistic variation. Meanwhile, the relationship between Arabic balāgha and the Greek rhetorical tradition beginning with Aristotle has always been complicated, with some thinkers seeing the Greek emphasis on persuasive oratory as a welcome addition to Arabic-Islamic ideas about the power of language and speech, and others attempting to defend the Arabic language sciences against external influence. In the 19th and 20th centuries, balāgha was often viewed by progressive writers and thinkers as anachronistic. Its study thus tended to be confined to traditional Islamic institutions and seen as relevant only to particular “premodern” Arabic-Islamic texts. But recent decades have seen a renewed dedication to the continued vitality and value of a type of balāgha study called “The New Balāgha” that draws on Greek, Arabic, and hybrid conceptual tools. For those involved in this movement, balāgha comes to name a set of ideas about how people connect through language: how they become open to new ideas, empathetic to the struggles of those around them, and sensitive to the powers of linguistic beauty and subtlety. This scholarly movement has come to be particularly associated with Morocco, and especially with Abdelmalek Essaadi University in Tetouan, where its best-known practitioner and advocate, Dr. Mohamed Mechbal, teaches. Betty Rosen is a final-year PhD candidate in the Department of Middle Eastern Languages and Cultures and the Designated Emphasis Program in Critical Theory at the University of California, Berkeley. Originally from Cleveland, OH, she earned her A.B. in Comparative Literature Magna Cum Laude from Harvard College in 2012, as well as completing an MA in Arabic Literature at SOAS (University of London) in 2013. She was also a CASA Fellow at the American University of Cairo during the 2017-18 academic year. Betty specializes in Arabic and Hebrew poetics and theories of language, both medieval and modern. Her dissertation, entitled Language Marvels: Al-Badī‘ In and Beyond Arabic-Islamic Poetics, focuses primarily on the conceptions of al-badī‘—the “marvelous creativity of language”—developed in writings by Muslim and Jewish Arabophone writers in Egypt during the Mamluk Period (13th-15th centuries). The dissertation also asks how certain 19th-century thinkers mobilized Mamluk-era ideas about language, poetics, and creativity to envision alternative forms of Arab “modernity.” Betty's research interests also extend into the 20th and 21st centuries, particularly the ways in which contemporary Arab scholars mobilize and reimagine older ideas about the Arabic linguistic and poetic tradition. In her free time, she plays viola, writes creatively, and works on an ongoing Arabic-to-English fiction translation project. This episode was recorded on June 22, 2023 at the Tangier American Legation Institute for Moroccan Studies (TALIM).  Recorded and edited by: Abdelbaar Mounadi Idrissi, Outreach Director, TALIM

Stan Erraught in conversation with David Eastaugh The Stars Of Heaven were formed in 1983 by Stephen Ryan (vocals, guitar), Stan Erraught (guitar, formerly of The Peridots), Peter O'Sullivan (bass guitar), and Bernard Walsh (drums).They were strongly influenced by The Byrds and Gram Parsons, even being labelled "Ireland's answer to The Byrds, Gram Parsons and the Velvet Underground all in one package". After a début single on the Hotwire label ("Clothes of Pride") which received airplay from John Peel, they were signed by Rough Trade, who issued the album Sacred Heart Hotel in 1986, which reached number 11 on the UK Independent Chart. Peel's patronage continued throughout their career, with the band recording four sessions for his BBC Radio 1 show, the first of which was included on Sacred Heart Hotel. They also appeared on RTÉ television. They released a further single and EP ("Never Saw You"/The Holyhead EP) which was a top five hit on the independent chart, and in 1988, Rough Trade released their second and final album, Speak Slowly, which peaked at number 6. Speak Slowly included the track Lights Of Tetouan, although this was not released as a single. The song is written by the band's singer, Stephen Ryan, about growing up on the south coast of Spain from where he could see the Moroccan town of Tetouan. Lights Of Tetouan was covered by Everything But the Girl on their 1994 EP Rollercoaster. Along with the original, as this version is a B-side, it is not widely known/available. However, it is available for listening/viewing online. The band split up shortly after the release of Speak Slowly with Ryan going on to form a new band, The Revenants, along with former members of The Would-Be's and Something Happens, who released two albums (Horse of a Different Colour and Septober Nowonder) in 1993 and 1995, respectively.

De Africa Cup staat voor de deur. Het ideale moment dus om vooruit te blikken. In deze aflevering bespreken Sven Vandenbroeck (succesvolle Belgische coach in Afrika en tevens winnaar van de Africa Cup 2017), Nordin Ghouddani (Mocro Inside), Mustapha Esadik (Van Abidjan naar Tetouan) en Abdel Fatah Qisse de loting, de verschillende groepen, de kansen van het Marokkaans elftal & het ideale recept voor een Afcon winst. Atlas Lions Talk zal tijdens deze AFCON stilstaan bij alle wedstrijden die Marokko zal spelen, met voorbeschouwingen en reviews van alle wedstrijden, aangevuld met alle actua rondom het Marokkaans elftal. Tickets voor de liveshows van Mocro-inside kunnen nog besteld worden via info@mocroinside.nl

Lauren Whearty and Eric Hibit are artists, curators, and educators, who both think deeply about the importance of color as a subject in art, society, and in how they teach painting and design courses. Color is a vital component in foundational artistic studies, it also plays an important role in culture, technology, history, science, and more. In this episode Lauren & Eric will discuss the ways they use and think about color in their studios, Eric's “Color Theory for Dummies” book, book recommendations, and how they each approach color in the classroom. Lauren Whearty is an artist, educator, and curator living and working in Philadelphia, PA. She received her MFA from Ohio State University, and her BFA from Tyler School of Art, Temple University. She has been a Co-Director at Ortega y Gasset Projects, an artist-run curatorial collective and non-profit in Brooklyn, NY since 2017. Lauren has attended residencies such as Yale's Summer School of Art through the Ellen BattelStoeckel Fellowship, The Vermont Studio Center, Soaring Gardens Artist Retreat, and the Golden Foundation Artist Residency. She has recently received grants from the Elizabeth Greenshields Foundation, and Joseph Roberts Foundation. Lauren also received the President's Creative Research and Innovation Grant from University of the Arts, to develop work for her first solo exhibit which was recently at Gross McCleaf Gallery in Philadelphia. Lauren currently teaches 2D Design, Color, Painting & Drawing courses at University of the Arts and Tyler School of Art & Architecture in Philadelphia. Eric Hibit (born Rochester, NY) is a visual artist based in New York City. He attended the Corcoran College of Art + Design (BFA,1998) and Yale University School of Art (MFA, 2003). In New York, he has exhibited at Morgan Lehman Gallery, Dinner Gallery, Deanna Evans Projects, My Pet Ram, One River School of Art + Design, Tiger Strikes Asteroid, Underdonk Gallery, Anna Kustera Gallery, Max Protetch Gallery, and elsewhere. He has exhibited nationally at Hexum Gallery in Montpelier, VT, Weatherspoon Art Museum in Greensboro, NC, Wege Center for the Arts at Maharishi University in Fairfield, IA, Geoffrey Young Gallery in Great Barrington, MA, The University of Vermont, Bedford Gallery in Walnut Creek, CA and internationally in Sweden, France and Norway. His work has been covered by the Washington Post, The Village Voice, Hyperallergic, Newsweek, New York Times and New York Post. Hibit has taught studio art at Drexel University, The Cooper Union, Suffolk County Community College, 92NY, Tyler School of Art, NYU and Hunter College. Artist residencies include Terra Foundation in Giverny, France (2003), and Kingsbrae International Residency for the Arts (2019) and Green Olives Arts in Tetouan, Morocco (2019). Publications include Dear Hollywood Writers, with poet Geoffrey Young (Suzy Solidor Editions, 2017) and Paintings and Fables with Wayne Koestenbaum, a limited edition artist's book (2017), and Color Theory for Dummies, published by Wiley (2022).  He is currently Co-Director of Ortega y Gasset Projects, an artist-run gallery based in Brooklyn, where he has curated exhibitions since 2014.

Anker lichten! Wir nehmen das nächste Boot nach Marokko und schauen uns die wunderschönen, nördlichen Ecken des Landes an. Nichts ist schöner, als eine Küstenstadt aus dem Mittelalter und Motivation den Spaniern und Portugiesen in den Arsch zu treten. Moment, was? Gefällt euch was wir machen? Wir würden uns über finanzielle Unterstützung bei Steady freuen. So hilft ihr uns, unsere Kosten für den Podcast zu decken. Ihr könnt uns aber auch mit Feedback auf iTunes, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram oder hier in den Kommentaren helfen. Heldendumm ist ein Teil vom #Historytelling-Netzwerk. Mehr zu dem Thema findet ihr auf geschichtspodcasts.de! Mehr zur dieser Episode: Sayyida al Hurra (Wikipedia EN) Tétouan (Wikipedia EN) Chefchaouen (Wikipedia EN) Abu al-Abbas Ahmad ibn Muhammad - Wikipedia (Wikipedia EN) Emirate of Granada (Wikipedia EN) Oruç Reis (Wikipedia EN) Hayreddin Barbarossa (Wikipedia EN) Und weil wir in der Episode einen Totalaussetzer hatten: Friedrich I. Barbarossa (Wikipedia DE) Böser Blick (Wikipedia DE) Nazar-Amulett (Wikipedia DE) Hand der Fartima (Wikipedia DE) The Pirate Queen of the Mediterranean: The Story of Al-Sayyida al-Hurra (medievalists.net) Sayyida al-Hurra – ‚Pirate Queen of Morocco‘ (marliesdekkers.com) Geschichte: Sayyida al-Hurra, die Freibeuterin aus Tetouan, die sich der iberischen Armee entgegenstellte (marokko-deutschland.de) Episoden-Cover: Ismail Biya Intro- & Outro-Musik: @lcp_ictures auf Instagram #HeldendummQuereinsteigerin

Past guest and visual artist, Eric Hibit,  joins me again today to chat about his work and his new book that he authored, Color Theory for Dummies which is a beginners guide to color theory for artists.    Eric Hibit was born in Rochester, New York and is a visual artist based in New York City. He attended the Corcoran College of Art + Design (BFA,1998) and Yale University School of Art (MFA, 2003). In New York, he has exhibited at Morgan Lehman Gallery, Dinner Gallery, Deanna Evans Projects, My Pet Ram, One River School of Art + Design, Tiger Strikes Asteroid, Underdonk Gallery, Ortega y Gasset Projects, Zurcher Studio, C24 Gallery, Anna Kustera Gallery, Max Protetch Gallery, and elsewhere. He has exhibited nationally at Weatherspoon Art Museum in Greensboro, NC, Adds Donna in Chicago, Curator's Office in Washington, DC, Geoffrey Young Gallery in Great Barrington, MA, The Cape Cod Museum of Art, Satellite Contemporary in Las Vegas, NV, The University of Vermont, Bedford Gallery in Walnut Creek, CA and internationally in Sweden, France and Norway.    His work has been covered by the Washington Post, The Village Voice, Hyperallergic, Newsweek, New York Times and New York Post. Hibit has taught studio art at Drexel University, The Cooper Union, Suffolk County Community College, 92NY, Tyler School of Art, NYU and Hunter College. Artist residencies include Terra Foundation in Giverny, France (2003), UNILEVER Residency in New York (2015), and Kingsbrae International Residency for the Arts (2019) and Green Olives Arts in Tetouan, Morocco (2019). Publications include Dear Hollywood Writers, with poet Geoffrey Young (Suzy Solidor Editions, 2017) and Paintings and Fables with Wayne Koestenbaum, a limited edition artist's book (2017), and Color Theory for Dummies, published by Wiley (2022).  He is currently Co-Director of Ortega y Gasset Projects, an artist-run gallery based in Brooklyn, where he has curated exhibitions since 2014.     LINKS:  https://www.erichibit.com/ https://www.instagram.com/erichibit/ https://www.amazon.com/Color-Theory-Dummies-Eric-Hibit/dp/1119892279     Sponsors: https://www.artworkarchive.com/ilikeyourwork https://www.sunlighttax.com/ilyw     I Like Your Work Links: Submit Your Work Check out our Catalogs! Exhibitions Studio Visit Artist Interviews I Like Your Work Podcast Say “hi” on Instagram  

Joanie Conwell fulfilled a dream in May of 2022, visiting Morocco for two weeks, inspired by the works of Paul Bowles. And she did it as a solo traveller, unaccompanied and through her own planning and research. With a bit of help from Destination Morocco podcast, especially Episode 4!Joanie joins Azdean today to trace her adventure through northern Morocco, starting in Casablanca then staying in Rabat, Tangier, Tetouan, Chefchaouen and Fès.Joanie shares her expenses, including the average nightly cost of her accommodations, recounts special moments with strangers, and gives her views on whether it's a good idea to travel solo to Morocco, and what to expect.A lot of information on the internet seems designed to frighten travellers curious about Morocco. Walking along the shoreline near Hassan II Mosque, observing regular families strolling at the sunset: the reality is much more nuanced than what you read online.You're about to learn:Understanding transportation as a solo traveller. Azdean explains the differences between the petit and big taxis.How Joanie took Azdean's advice to upgrade her basic room to a living room suite with gorgeous views, for only about $25 extra.The price of a 2nd class ticket on the high speed train (Al Boraq) from Rabat to Tangier.Taking a long-distance big taxi ride with six Moroccan strangers.How the price for virtually everything that isn't prepaid is negotiable. Finding a taxi ride that was one-tenth of the original price quoted.How to avoid the touts hassling you to sell bus tickets, and just book online. Or, how to prepare for the touts and get a successful outcome.Joanie's great advice for anyone with dietary restrictions, allergies or other sensitivities to negotiate their way through Morocco (or any Arabic country).This Episode is sponsored by:Travel Anywhere - One stop for all your travel needs.https://www.travelanywhere.travel/Resources Mentioned in this episode:Joanie TravelsJoanie's linksJoanie on InstagramEpisode 4: Scams!Paul Bowles, writer and composerAmerican Legation Museum TangierCap Spartel (Where the Mediterranean meets the Atlantic)Follow, Share and Participate:Learn more about the show on our Podcast WebsiteFind beautiful pictures on our Instagram!Help people find us: Leave a Review in Apple PodcastsHelp us grow: Rate us on SpotifyBecome a Guest on the Show!Visit Destination Morocco Travel Agency

We have a fun conversation with Bilal Ararou from Tetouan, Morocco who has been running a design and development agency for the last 7 years. He and his team developed a social media scheduling app called Nuelink.com Bilal always wanted to scale his business but not through the agency, he always wanted to keep it small and decided to scale through running a SaaS business instead! Please tune in to this agency conversation from a different perspective

الحلقة 9 - ضيفتنا هذا الأسبوع هي واحدة من أولئك الذين ألهموني لإطلاق مثل هذا البودكاست ، لذا شكراً جزيلاً لها ولكل الآخرين مثلها. خلال هذه الحلقة ، ستقدم لنا نهيلة تفاصيل رحلتها من المغرب إلى بلجيكا ، ثم ستخبرنا بالتحديات التي واجهتها قبل أن تقرر الانتقال إلى هولندا. والتي من مناقشتنا القصيرة تبدو وكأنها الوجهة المثالية للأشخاص الذين يرغبون في الانتقال إلى أوروبا والاعتماد بنسبة 100٪ على اللغة الإنجليزية للعيش والدراسة وبناء مستقبل مهني هناك.لا تنس: كن دائمًا فضوليًا ، وكن دائمًا طموحًا.Episode 9 - Our guest this week is one of those who inspired me to launch such a podcast, so a big thanks to her and to all the others like her. In the course of this episode, Nehaila will give us the details of her journey from Morocco to Belgium, and then will tell us the challenges she faced before deciding to Move to the Netherlands. Which from our short discussion sounds like the perfect destination for people who want to move to Europe and rely 100% on the English language to live, study and build a career there.Don't forget: be always curious, be always ambitious.Official Sponsor:Study Abroad: https://flexyclass.com/ All Episodes:Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3vysl4OApple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3jpNSYPGoogle Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3C7ey7NAmazon Music: https://amzn.to/3GdfnhOSoundCloud: https://bit.ly/30UxWHHFollow & Support:Instagram: www.instagram.com/lharba_lghorba/Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lharbawlghorbaGuest:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nehaila_k/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nehaila-kassabi/ Immigrate to Netherlands:Work Permit: https://business.gov.nl/coming-to-the-netherlands/permits-and-visa/permits-for-highly-skilled-migrantsOrientation Visa: https://business.gov.nl/coming-to-the-netherlands/permits-and-visa/orientation-visa-for-highly-educated-persons/Tax Reduction: https://www.expatica.com/nl/finance/taxes/the-dutch-30-ruling-explained-101641/Intro/Outro Music:Be Water My Friend by Coxinella (ft. Luke Merlons): https://spoti.fi/3Ek8nhrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/coxi.nella/Timestamps:(00:00) – Sponsor(01:00) – IntroSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/lharba-w-lghorba/donations

Zajal, which flourished in 14th century Andalusia, is a genre of poetry composed in spoken Arabic—Moroccan Arabic/Darija in this case. The genre reemerged in postcolonial Morocco, when it was largely published in newspapers. The recent history of zajal may appear male dominated: the 1992 edition of Afaq, the Journal of the Moroccan Writer's Union, highlighted modern zajal poetry but included only one poem by a woman poet. But many Moroccan women who write zajal today look to history for inspiration, often citing Kharbousha, an iconic figure who resisted oppressive rulers through her poetry, as an example they seek to emulate. Beyond this, Facebook and TikTok, provide a rich and accessible realm for sharing poetry. My research, grounded in interviews with zajalat (women zajal poets) and close readings of their work, examines how and why Moroccan women write zajal poetry today, and what their experiences on and off the page can tell us about Darija as a literary language. Catherine Cartier received her B.A. in History and Arab Studies in May 2020 from Davidson College (USA). Prior to Fulbright, she worked as an investigative intern and consultant at the Center for Advanced Defense Study and reported as an independent journalist from Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, and Tajikistan. Her Fulbright research examines zajal poetry written by Moroccan women. Bibliography: ​Afaq: the Journal of the Moroccan Writers' Union​. 1992. Elinson, Alexander. “‘Darija' and Changing Writing Practices In Morocco.” International Journal of Middle East Studies 45, no. 4 (November 2013): 715–30. ———. “Writing Oral Literature Culture: the Case of Contemporary Zajal.” In The Politics of Written Language in the Arab World, edited by Jacob Høigilt and Gunvor Mejdell. Leiden: Brill, 2017. Kapchan, Deborah “Performing Depth: Translating Moroccan Culture in Modern Verse.” In Colors of Enchantment: Theater, Dance, Music and Visual Arts of the Middle East​, edited by Sherifa Zuhur, 119-136. Cairo: American University Cairo Press, 2001. ———. Poetic Justice: An Anthology of Contemporary Moroccan Poetry. Austin: University of Texas Austin, 2019. Mohammed, Hayat Kabwash. Ashaqa al-huriah, Rabat: Dar Assalam, 2006. Union de l'Action Féministe. Saba'a Nisa, Saba'at Rijal, Tetouan. 2021.

Aujourd'hui ESM a les pieds dans le sable. Pourquoi? Pour suivre des identités non humaines - au milieu de ruines, de plantes et de vents - sur les traces d'un artiste qui cherche à faire parler son Sahara natal … Originaire de Boujdour, un bout du monde (administré par le Maroc) où la poésie brise la certitude des dunes, Abdessamad El Montassir a les yeux fixés sur l'horizon depuis l'enfance. Mais justement, quel horizon pour ce bout du monde agité par le vent de la décolonisation et les tempêtes indépendantistes ? Diplômé de l'Institut national des Beaux-arts Arts de Tetouan, c'est en plasticien et en chercheur qu'il amasse des récits, avec une série photographique et une pièce sonore intitulée Al Amakine et un film  Galb'Echaouf/Le cœur du regard (sélectionné pour le Festival Vision du réel 2021). Bref, y a un peu de sable dans mon couscous, mais comme ça se passe dans le cadre d'Hôtel Sahara actuellement aux Magasins Généraux à Pantin, près de Paris, mleh, tout va bien. Exposition qui met en avant 10 artistes émergents issus de pays dont le Sahara traverse une partie du territoire... Les choix musicaux d'Abdessamad El Montassir Ooleya Mint Amartichitt Leguereybe Malouma Mint el midah Ya rab Touria Hadraoui Sharibto Safaan 

Aloha friends. It's Robert Stehlik, welcome to another episode of the blue planet show.  On this show I interview Wing Foil athletes, not only about the technique and the gear that they use, but I also try to get to know them a little bit better, their background, what makes them tick, what inspires them and how they live their best life. It's a long form format. So if you'd like in-depth information, then you're going to love this show.  I really appreciate you. I know not everyone has time to watch it on YouTube with the visuals. I think it's great, but you can, of course, also listen to it as a podcast with audio only, just search your favorite podcast app for "the blue planet show".  Today's interview is with Kevin and Kaden Pritchard. Kevin Pritchard is a multiple time wind surf world champion. Him and his brother, both Matt Pritchard and Matt's son, Kaden is 12 years old and he's only been winging for about a year. And he's already doing crazy moves: back flips and he's working on forward flips and he breaks down technique for me on the Flaka, which really helped me out too. So there's some really good stuff in here. And just the whole story about the Pritchard family living on Maui, basically because a friend gave a wind surf board to Kevin's dad. So that's what led to the whole family living that lifestyle now. So I thought that was great. Really interesting story. Good to see the two generations together and hope you enjoy this show as much as I did. And without further ado, please welcome the Pritchards!  Okay. Kevin and Kaden Prichard. Welcome to the Blue Planet Show. Thanks so much for making some time to join me. How you guys doing today? Yeah, thanks for having us. I was like, checking you out on that. On the internet and it's oh, let's do something. Could be cool. We've got Kaden who's starting to really start to rip on the wing foil. And yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Thanks for reaching out to me. I appreciate that. And and I saw you, you just started a YouTube channel and blogging and all that kind of stuff too. So I always like to collaborate with other people that try to create content and stuff like that. So it's great to have you guys, and you're both on Nali right now, right? And where are you at? It looks like you got a lot of gear behind you. There we are in my dad's workshop or yeah, his dad. We have a little rental. Wind surfing thing. So renting the waves and stuff over here on Maui. And my brother does a lot of lessons teaching, wind surfing. And he's been, has he been teaching leaning to a little bit Kayden? So your dad is Kevin's brother. That's how you relate okay. What's your dad's name? Okay. And then Kevin you been a long time windsurfer multiple time world champion and stuff like that. So then what, can you talk a little bit about your career actually, let's start with where you grew up and how you got into it and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. I grew up in California and actually my brother and I, we started windsurfing together with my parents and my mom and my dad. And like we all used to travel around, we'd go to hood river and we lived in California, so we just started my dad was addicted to it, so he just took us with us and just, we all fell in love with the sport and it was super fun and yeah, just started wind surfing all the time and we got into it and then my brother moved to Maui in 92. I think it was. And then I moved in 94. And then we just started going, doing the world tour together and just like step-by-step got better and better. And then yeah, it was awesome. We, he won a bunch of world titles and I won some world titles. It's crazy how a sport can take you and change your life. It's like we started in California together and now our whole family's here. And then he's had a family of two kids and it's pretty fun watching the Caden grow up to in the mix of, what we used to do as a family, go and wind surf and all this stuff. And his, my dad, his grandfather is I would say he's his biggest, person helping him go down to the beach and doing winging. And my dad's learned a wing and he's 70. So they go down together all the time and it's pretty cool. So we've got a family atmosphere that we've had all our lives and to see it getting passed down has been, it's been fun. Cool. So how old are you now? I'm 45. And what about UK? 11. 11. All right. Cool. So how, when did you stop competing professionally as a windsurfer or are you still competing or no. I would say it's pretty cool. I won the law classic in 2000 and then I won it in 2017. I think it was. 16 2016. So having I had a amazing career of 16 years of, still being, near the top. And that was one of my best moments was just, like 16 years later when it beaten these kids out who keep that was, it was special conditions with big waves and weird conditions, but still it was it was a good feeling to end your career on top and that's awesome. So that was only four years ago. You won that law classic, something like that. That's awesome. And then I do a bunch of testing for the wind surfing company as he sails and. Got more into that, brand ambassador and I'm still surfing every day. It's good. And testing the equipment, testing the gear and using the knowledge of all those years of competing and wind surfing to, make products better and things like that. So what do you do now mostly like where do you live mostly and what do you do? And so on. Nowadays I live on Maui and just have fun. I get to, go winging if it's like right now in the summertime. I haven't gone yet, but last summer I went a couple of times and I liked the just like the variety right now, just if it's good for cutting go cutting. It's good for wind surfing, go wind surfing, unless it's there's a, different seasons of when sales come out. When it's a busy test season from testing the winter thing here and then otherwise just just having fun. Yeah. And I'm just gonna play your this is like your new YouTube channel, and this is in Mexico, right? Yeah. You spend a lot of time in Mexico or in Baja. Yeah. This is kinda, this is where my brother and I would come down and we learned, I would say we learned wave sailing here because we, it was probably an eight hour drive from Southern California. And we would come down to this spot and learn the way. So it was pretty, it was like a kind of a. It's a long way. So you get a lot of turns and you can work on your sailing technique really easily. So it's, I think it's one of the best spots in the world for progressing your, your sailing or your whatever. When I was down here, there's this guy out there weaning and he was catching like, I dunno, 300 waves a day or something ridiculous like that, but it's pretty cool. Definitely a good spot that got you interested in and foiling as well. Yeah. How is that going? I guess you were talking about just starting to spoil and struggling with it a little bit. Yeah. I think the wind surfer on the foil is the hardest device. I don't know why they're either. Maybe nobody has really Stepped up the R and D with it, but the way wave, wind surf, foiling. I don't know. I've struggled with it. You just have so much power in the sale, you know where the wing, you can just get rid of it. And same with the kite where the wind surfing. It just it's hard. I don't know. I had a hard time with it anyways, right? Yeah. I actually haven't even really tried wind surfing with the foil. I used to wind surf all the time, but with the foil, I think it's like a whole different thing. And yeah, I think the foil and the wing just work really well together. Like you said, you can power it and ride the wave more like surfing the foils rather than the using the wind power. Yeah. It's pretty cool to watch him and see how like confident, like I was, I seem to be like carving little things with the foil and I think. If I could do that on surf board, which, would be the goal. It would be cool, but I don't know. I guess I got to put more time into it, like he's on the water all the time, so I'm not quite used to the foil as much as I should be, so in Baja, you also have you run like camps as well, like brother does. And that's where it would be, like I was saying, it's just awesome for just the waves are just endless. So for learning, it's incredible, it'd be fun to do a clinic with this kid down there if he could be in the cold water, but all right. Okay Kayden, let's talk a little bit about you now. How did I guess you were 11 years old, obviously still go to school, right? Yeah. Where do you go to school? Which school do you go to? I have a homeschool this past year. I've been getting a lot of time on the water and then next year, the Seaberry. Obviously you can drive it. So how do you get to the beach who takes you and so on? My grandpa has been taking me basically every time I want to go for since June, I would say right since June last year. So is that part of your homeschooling PE program is going wink, foiling. Yeah, no, you got time off, but so are you born and raised on Maui and how did you get, like, how did you get into water sports? What's your earliest memory of surfing or water sports? So on I started surfing with my dad when I was like three, and then when I was like five or six, I started doing it by myself and I loved it. And that's what I did till I was like nine or nine or 10. I still do it. But then I got into wind surfing and then one day my grandpa came to my house and just said, let's go win. And I didn't really want to go. But then I went. Down there. I loved it. And so when was this about a year ago or two years ago, or do you remember when, how long ago? That was a year ago. On July. Wait on June 1st. Wow. So pretty much exactly in one year. And now you're doing all these crazy moves. Yeah. So you're progressing pretty quickly, obviously. Like for those of you who don't know, I'm going to share some video of you doing some of these crazy moves. So at T talk a little bit about the back split. When did you learn to do that? And. Maybe let's try to break down that move a little bit. And what was most challenging about learning it and so on? The most challenging part is you rip your wing lot. Yeah. And, but once you get nice waves to launch off of, it's not that difficult because basically once you get halfway around, like upside down, then once you get and to get right there, then the wind will just blow you around. So it's the hardest part is to just pull your board around. Is this where is this? Where are you? Where is this at? This is car point it's in between Harbor and canal. Yeah, but it's not like you're launching off of huge waves. You're just launching off some smaller chop. It looks like a little swells case. So talk a little bit about the approaching the jump. I think that's something that most people overlook that when you're jumping, it's really important to come low and then get your foil at a really steep angle on the exit. Like this, you can see how your foil is going up at it's pretty steep angle. Yeah. And especially with the backflip, what I was trying when I was first learning it is, I was just like going super fast and trying to spin like as fast as I can, but I learned. That it's easier to do it slower when you have a bigger ramp and stuff. Okay. So getting more height and just rotating a little bit more slowly, and then you really throw back your head. Is that is it, does that, I guess that just helps you commit to the rotation. Yeah. I have three rotate better and it's just how I do it. I don't know. Yeah. So you said you've ripped a lot of wings, so is it, is that from the, when you lose your board and it falls onto the wing on the landing? Or how did you rip the wings? Sometimes I just pop up and there's a rip in my link. So what I'm guessing, it's probably from like, when I land and say, my board gets like falls off my face. It like, that's and then it'll flip over onto the way. So that's what happened in the most, but there were some times where like I would fall on to my wing would fall on my foil. So it's not all perfect. Let me see in the video and then get it fixed for you. My dad, he just got he's. He's amazing. He got a sewing machine, so he's been he's been doing like all these little projects with making little harnesses and leashes that work really well for my dad. I dunno. Do you use them or not? Yeah, I have one he's like Mr. MacGyver. My dad was like the original band life guy. Like when we were kids, we had this van that we pack all our stuff into and go down to Baja. And that was, 25 years ago, 30 years ago. And now it's the rage is band life, man life. And my dad was a builder and that's actually how we started wind surfing is he was building a house for a guy and the guy was still some wind surfing. And for my dad's birthday, he gave him a wind surfer. And so he just started wind surfing. And I was wanting to write that guy that gave my dad the windsurfer, because it changed our lives. It changed Kayden's life just to, like this one dude. My dad had wind surfer for his birthday, and now we're in Maui. We got the shot. We got, I, when I was traveling, I was, I traveled for a million miles on American airlines, so like from that one, dude, I S both my brother and I have been so blessed, like just like seeing the world, doing all this fun stuff. And, it's crazy that a sport can take you, having fun. We'd sure we worked hard at it, but, we had the time of our lives just from this, from this one guy. That's awesome. That's a great story. Yeah, you should definitely contact him and say, tell him, Hey, look what you started. And our hope, my dad, mom and dad, both. Here and family grandparents just moved here. So it's pretty cool. Where in California, did you grow up? We grew up in like the worst spot ever for wind surfing. I think it was like sand in between San Diego and LA and then inland. It was like Riverside area and there's a couple of lakes around where my dad got the wind surfer. It was built. He was building houses in canyon lake it's called and is terrible for wind surfing, but still got us hooked, and not to, get all this, just from him doing it. We the first place I learned, I was like seven, so I was smaller than him. And they only had big gear back then, My dad had advanced to the ponds. This is like these two, 300 meter long ponds, percolation ponds out in the middle of the desert. And it was the windy spot where you could, you wouldn't get in trouble if you drifted downwind or whatever. And my parents have been learning on the original windsurfer and then they got smaller and smaller gear. And I remember one day I was just sitting in the car. I was like, so bored. I'm like, ah, dad, just let me try this short board, and they're like, no, you can't do that. You got to learn on the long board or whatever. And I'm like, just let me try it on. So board. And I remember it still, like probably the only thing that I remember my childhood, but I remember getting on the wind surfer and like somehow after watching them for so long, I just got on it and I went flying down this, the pond and my board as I was like reeling down full plane, like nine years old on this tiny Windsor for it. And I was just, was flying down it. And after that I was just like, oh my gosh, I want to do that again. I had to walk back, cause I didn't know what I was doing. I was just like, somehow just watched what they did and yeah, that little, first little glide, changed all our lives. Change your, your Maui because of that first sensation or a walk definitely changed my life too. Yeah. For that first sensation where you're like, oh my gosh, you're right. Harnessing the wind, something can't even see and the last you down the, down the water and it's a pretty cool feeling. Yeah. And then, yeah. That's awesome. Good. How does it feel when you're on the wing? You're like flying, right? Yeah. Maybe you talk about your very first experience when you first got on the wing foiler and how that was learning it. The first time I got on the lane foil, I didn't really get up on foil, like I just got up and then I fell and then three or two days later, I got up on foil and I went all the way in on foil. And I was just like, this is the best sport ever be better than surfing. And then since then, I just kept going every day and, yeah. Awesome. So before you started winging filing, you never foiled before, that was how you learned how to foil as well. Yeah, that was the first time I learned how to foil or actually I think I went out with you yeah, that was the first spoiling experience I think I had. So Caitlin, how do you know, how about how much you weigh I'm about like 85 pounds, 85 pounds. Can you talk a little bit about the gear you use now? What size board and winging and foil. Yeah I've been using like, I used to be always like the guy I'm the biggest way now. And now I realized that the smaller, as a way, you can do more tricks and spins with it. So my go-to has been two eight. And so what is, what brand is the one that you're using? The two eight I'm using the gastro wings, because they're like, they're not super, super stiff. It's like you can, when you do this stuff, they'll then you're in the ways that you need them to. And that's super nice for me because I'm such a stiff wing. It would be really hard to do the flips because it would just want to, not it wouldn't bend for me two eighties, that pretty much all the time. Or do you have a bigger wing for lighter wind and the smaller one for stronger wind? Or how does that work? Yeah, I have the two way is for super windy conditions and then I have three, five and four too, and then actually took my brother out foiling on five two. And I don't think I ever want to do that again. Such a big waste. Did you see that, that, did you post the video or just the shot? Yeah, let me share that. And so there's a photo of you and your Instagram account. This on here is pretty cool. Cause I took the photo, but Yeah, they went out and it was really light wind day. It was, I think his grandpa's birthday. Huh? We were all down there kind of cruise in with my dad for his birthday. And I went out and this is funny. Like it was too light for me, so I drifted downwind and then this guy comes running down the beach. It's oh, I'll get that for you. And he's like sales, a backup. I'm like, Ooh, this is a, little humbling of this helped me out, but way better than carrying it back up. So I didn't care. And then he gets and he's because when he was 4, 3, 4 or five, something like that, I took him windsurfing and we did a tandem. And we were like going out. I had a great time. He looked like he had a great time and his is his mom and dad are little conservatives. And so when I took him out, I was like, we are going to full speed out doing big old jumps and stuff. We actually jumped so high. We broke the board together. So that was pretty funny. And then it was cool. We'll see him take out his little brother and at first they're going and I'm like, come on and get him on the foil, just get them on the foil. And finally got up and they're like cruising around on the foil. And then they even did a job on the didn't even, like who we does that I can't. Do a job on the foil barely. So it was pretty fun to watch. That's a huge win for you to an ad board, yeah. It's like the belt size. Yeah. It was huge everything because the first time I took them out, I was on a go for at one 30, with a 17 and a half tail and the 36 inch max. And then I went back out on the Eva friendly and the Kai tail and I'm just like, oh, this is so much lift. And then I got up and next time I want to try a smaller foils. I w I want them to put foot straps on the thing so they can do big airs. That's cool. So you using gold foils, gastro wings and who's making your boards? Fabian I don't know how to pronounce his last name, but Fabian's making my boards. That brand is taboo and yeah, we're doing lots of experiments with the boards and I really like that. Do you have one of your boards there that you can show us how it looks and stuff to shape? So I guess you'd also so after you started a wing filing, you also started prone, surf, foiling. Yeah. This is my circle board and I also wing it and I love this board for wave riding and stuff cause it's really turny. And then it has. Nice nose and rocker and all that stuff. It's the bottom shape too. It looks like a double concave, pretty hard edges. And then a kind of concave rails with concaves and then show us all what the size and volume is about on that board. I think this board is 25 leaders and it's a four. Oh. And then you just have two foot straps that are in the center. So do you, when you switch directions, you always switch your feet or most of the time, or with the feet in the same place. Or do you switch feed or do you keep them in the same position? Mostly I switched my feet most of the times, because when I do the back flip, my feet are switched in goofy foot, but I'm regular flip. That's also what made the back foot a lot, little harder. So can you do the back flip going both directions? Can you do going into, I haven't tried yet because I haven't really got like a good ramp to do it often. Cause it seemed like Jeff, like Jeffrey, Spencer, does this backflips always going in right. Coming in? Yeah. I want to try I'm up on a wave or like a wind shop. Yeah. I was talking to the guy Tetouan Galera from new Caledonia. He, they had a contest and they were doing back flips in saltwater, basically straight off shore, wind, total salt water. And there were, I guess it's definitely possible to, you just have to really get some height and push off on the jump, yeah. I want to try it on flat water, but I'm scared. Yeah. Yeah. It's here with a shorter mask cause you can rotate it. What you didn't talk about your foot and then maybe yeah. Maybe show us your foil set up to what length, how long is your mask? My master's at 36 inch max. Oh, that's pretty long. Yeah. It's really long. But for the flips and stuff, I was on a 32 here and I'm on the L 100 for 'em go foil and the 12 and a half tail. That was what I did for the flip. And then I also was on the TKR 80 for that one video that you were showing of the flip, a nice changes or what you're hoping to do in the future. I am hoping to like, make some foil, I don't know how it would be shaped or what, but this was for surf boiling and wink boiling too. But I would want something that turns. Super well, and then pumps super well for surf boiling. And then for weighing foiling, I would want something fast and really turn. So I like turning. Yeah. So fast, probably thinner than her profile and so on. Yeah. But yeah, that's one nice thing about the Gofoil stuff is Alex is down at the beach and he's been very generous to Kayden, like with prototyping stuff. Then before Kayden this guy, it was a he's a bit stubborn on changing stuff. Once he like something he's nah, not going to do it. I'm going to go on my four, two are going to go on my 42. And I was telling him, I'm like, oh, okay. Didn't you need a smaller wing. You can go higher, faster. And this and that. And then yeah. Alex will be like, Hey, maybe you should try this. Maybe you should just try that. And then yeah, but it's great to have Alex. Alex is such a pioneer of foil design and so on and always experimenting and tinkering. So it's yeah, for sure. Yeah. So w what do you mean by pop when you say you want the foot to have popped? Is that just like to get more height when you jump kind of thing popping out of the water? I I think more pop for me. It's usually like a short tail, like really sure there, cause I can lift out of the water and I already have a lot of pops, so I like, and I think more prof would be great. So that those are the fails of the Backwoods. Okay. You can go from May 8th, ourselves to June 8th and the totally nailing them. So what are you doing differently now? What were the mistakes that you were making at first, this not getting high enough or rotating the sale differently? Or what do you do differently? Not do you know? Yeah, I was rotating the sale where I would put it behind my back like that. And then I would like, you see how I put it, like behind right there. And now I'm like letting it go under me. And that helps a lot with the rotation. And then I just needed a little more. That was at the Harbor too. So that was Flatwater and that was pretty flat wide. Like this one, I had a little ramp to make it look so easy. Yeah. Amazing. But yeah. And actually, let's talk a little bit about the this other move the Upland or the upwind 360 or Slaka, and it looks like you're doing these ones now where you rotating them rotating the other way and then flipping her on. So like first rotating and then doing that, the Flocka move. So can you talk a little bit about that move and how, break it down for us? Yeah. I think with that, that first tweak right there. I do that too. It helps me almost get a faster rotation because I like go and then they just fit, lining up the spring kind of thing. Yeah. And then it also cause before when I used to do them, I would do them straight, like out of the water. But I've been realizing that it's a lot easier when you jump, wait, and then when you start coming down, then you do it. Okay. So it's like in windsurfing when we do forwards, like sometimes you do you go up first and you stall and then you throw yourself into the rotation. So maybe it's. Yeah. So I've been working on that moves too, and I've been pulling off maybe one out of 10 or something like that, but do you have any tips on for me, I always struggled with the landing and the CA the wind coming around and then like what, do you have any tips on that? Yeah, I think what I do is I really try to keep the wing as high as I can, so that it doesn't hit the water and it helps a lot to have the small, the smallest wing that you can be on. And, yeah, it definitely like with the rotation, it's a lot easier with a smaller wing and then it spins better. And for the landing, yeah. It just like it a whip you around in that last part. And then that'll pull you right up on, back onto the foil. Have you tried doing this move on, on the, on a wave? Yeah, I've done some on the waves sometimes. Like I can't really get up on foil straight away. What I did on that one. It's hard to do that for me. So most of the time I would do it land and then I would have to like pump and then I would go out the back of the wave, but then I would just go back into it and trying to figure out too. It looks like he almost pretty much rotating the wing at the very end. Like when you. When your foil already touched the water, like the last part of the rotation, really? Through the wind. Yeah. I liked doing that because since it has a forward momentum, it'll just be straight up onto the foil, like what I did there. Yeah. It's amazing how you just pull out of it right up on, back on the foil again, without like, when I do that, I don't I do the last part of the rotation almost in the water and while I'm bringing the wing around it and then pump myself back up, but it's almost like I stop new kind of still moving forward on the landing. So it's pretty, pretty cool. Yeah. That's why, like, when you do the wing rotation for their further, towards the bottom, it'll give you that forward momentum to get back up on the foil. Yeah. So and what about the wing? Do you have any tips for like how you hold the wing or do you try to have less power in it? Or what I try to do is I tried to, I try to go off of a little chalk or something. And then when I do it, the, I like to do them in holes of wind, like where there's a hole so that you can rotate. So it's not too, you don't want super strong Gus when you're doing it, right? Yeah. I would rather do like underpowered, not because it's harder to do in super strong winds. I think too, though, his definition of strong lens is really strong because this summer it's been 40, 30 to 40 every single day. Yeah. Pretty crazy window. Over here on Molly. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not too, it's like you bringing the wing through the wind after the foil touches down really or after you've already touched the water. Yeah. So it's pretty, pretty late in the move when you actually spin the wing around. Yeah, definitely. It, I liked doing it towards closer to the water. Because what sometimes, like when they do it above the water, I would just have a bunch of extra time to rotate again or whatever. And then I usually mess up or something. It looks like you almost pump it. It's almost like a pumping thing when you with that. Yeah. And that was the first fact loop I may ever. So then that looks like a pretty big ramp too. Yeah. I needed a bigger rant, more in the start. And there were some where I had too big of a ramp where I over-rotated an ate. So what happens when you over-rotate? What happened once was like, I did it and then I like had the perfect landing and then I like landed like that and back flopped and got the wind knocked out of me. I try not to go off of ginormous ramps anymore. Cause it really hurts land. Yeah. I've seen Zane Schweitzer does them like off of big ways that he'll keep by like really throwing himself backwards and it looks pretty, pretty crazy, but I guess that way you can definitely rotate all the way around. Yeah. I think the bigger, the way of the slower you have to rotate and back when I was first doing them, I would just rotate as fast as I could. So I did a lot of over rotation. So let's talk a little bit about based more basic stuff for a lot of the people listening are just getting into wing fighting. And then also actually Kevin, maybe you can talk a little bit about your first experiences with four thing with the wind surf board and what are the challenges and so on and any advice you can. Yeah, I think for me, the, actually for me, I think the wing is almost the easiest platform to learn on because you even when T with like, when I was first towing, because I thought, oh, that's going to be the easiest you're in control. You're in the jetski driver is in control. Like you just want to let go a little bit, slow down a little bit with the wing. You can just let it out where, if you're on a, behind a boat or whatever, it takes a lot of coordination, especially in the swells, like maybe on a Flatwater it's different, but I was always learning on the waves and no for me, the wind surfers, it's pretty fun going back and forth and stuff. Actually the other day we were out at . Yeah. I heard about him doing backflips. So I'm like, Aw show and how to do a back flip with the Windsor for, so doing that. And it's interesting to watch his rotations and stuff, and there's just so much lift with those boils. If you get them in the right, right way, you can just flip off with nothing. So the wind surfer. Yeah, it feels to me when I'm doing it on the winter, it feels super low, but then you see a picture of it and maybe it's cause you're 36 inches off the water when you start or something, but it looks high. Yeah. It definitely a lot lower than what it is. Yeah. Even like your shots, you're going pretty dang. Huh? Yeah. It feels like I'm probably going four feet. Yeah. I think for, it's pretty fun how the foil can work through all the different sports, whether it's surfing or stand up. I think that's how my dad got into the foiling is he was doing standup paddling. And then, you paddle down tile, you get a little ride, his little glide, and then you're done unless you're Zane's weights or something back out in circles and stuff. You can pump out. Yeah. That's like a nice thing that I like about profiling is you can surf the wave in, it helps a lot with footsteps, but you can surf the wave, like you're surfing regularly, but then when you kick out, you don't have to paddle all the way out. You can just pump to the next wave or pumped back out to the lineup. You should see this kid's legs. They're like, look at his muscles. They're like math for 11 year old was down the beach. And, he comes in and he's got six pack, abs muscles ripped off. And you're like, dude, what are you doing? And just winging every day and using those muscles. That's great. So you said Kevin, you're just starting to wing foil. Yeah, I Do it, I did it with when my dad was down there for his birthday and stuff, but it's pretty fun. And the different spots, like in Baja where I was, it was perfect for winging, like a slower fatter wave, so you're get that cruisy feel. And like you said, you don't have to paddle back out, which is nice with the wing. If you're not a super oil back out person, which I'm not, but yeah. And just learning a little bit it's always fun to just different sports and stuff. And, I can go out and back and do tiny jumps, but that's about it. I think, I think having a windsurfing background helps a lot with wing foiling. You know what I mean? Because the wing handling is very similar. You do have to learn how to control the height of the wing. Cause that's, windsurfer it's attached to your board, so you just can cheat in and out. But this is like a three dimensional thing where you have to actually control the direction of the wing too. That's what I was thinking about one time with the wind surfer. If you can have those old wind weapons attached to the board twisted up, I wonder how it'd be fun to get one of those nowadays and see how it works, maybe that, it might just be some different, but it'd be cool to try one or see what it is. And, I was always thinking maybe because that's the hardest part is once you're on a Wade, you need to get rid of the power. If you have to smallest sale, you can barely get on the foil and. I dunno, the wind surfing with the waves is hard on the foil, I think. But again, I just probably need to do it more. And As going to ask you Kayden on your wing, it looks like you have like one of your straps is, or the handles is like a rigid handle in the back. Is that right? Or I don't, let me see if I have a closer video where it shows it's like a boom as the back one. And I feel like that's nice because you can move your hand, like whatever way you want. And it's nice for the three sixties and stuff. Cause sometimes you come down and like you're not in the perfect place. And you need to slide your hand forward, slide it back, but it, so it's just attached with like nylon straps or something though, or it's attached with just fabric that. Yeah. So it still moves around quite a bit. Yeah. I keep thinking it would be nice to have like rigid handles that are just give you really direct control of the wing, where they don't flop around at all. But yeah, that's what I wish think that's what I'm trying to work on right now. It's like making some more rigid handles. Yeah. W gash is actually coming out with they're scrapping the boot. They're making that gloom thing basically, but they're having it on with plastic. They're mounting it on, basically. Yeah. And then they're gonna put up carbon pipe in it and it only gets super rigid. Right now he's PTC wing. It's called it's psych New Zealand company that makes wings. And that's kinda my favorite right now. Do you do the blue planet boards or yeah. We make pho foil boards and Wingfield boards. We've been doing that for quite a while now. And yeah, those are good. Are they made on a wahoo or no we we make prototypes on Oahu. The production is in China. I've been looking into making boards here, but it's just so expensive. Just the overhead and the labor costs and stuff like that. It's and then yeah, regulations and permitting and all that kind of stuff. It's a nightmare. So I haven't made that step, but on Molly, I guess the cannery is a pretty cool place. Cause there's so much innovation coming out of there. Yeah. It's pretty wild. It just, now he seems to breed that in innovation of stuff, different athletes and different, from surfing the wind surfing to stand up paddling and it's wild to, to me, like how kind of wind surfing gets a shuffled under the rug. 90% of all the athletes from the last 20 years have come from wind surfing, layered rush Randall, all these guys, all wind surf, and whether it's their kids or whatnot, it's Alex amazing wind surfer, all and all the brands too are from Windsor thing, and the, and there's a lot of the technology as well. With, I think surfing's has been so stuck in, the polyester construction and thruster tens and whatever they get, it's just not a lot of innovation happening. And then when windsurfing came around, everybody was like trying so many different things and the whole composite construction and making boards later and stronger and all that kind of stuff. That all came from wind surfing not from surfing really. I think too it feels like wind surfers are more techie than surfing maybe. Maybe it's changing a little bit now, and the foil that's half the reason I don't really love the foiling is because for, 25 years, I was just tinkering with wind surfing stuff. And, it was pretty D when you're at the top level, couple of millimeters here and there, it makes a huge difference. So to come and start tinkering with a foil, I don't, it's a lot of work for me. So it's just. It's nice to come and you go out on the dad's stuff, it's all trimmed. Perfect. You just hop on it and go, and it works. And you're not like, oh, this change this. Now you're talking about millimeters and wind surfing. I think on the foil, it's even more, it's like micro millimeters. Yeah. You guys have so much less surface area in the water and like any little change makes the noticeable difference. Like even a half a degree angle in your tailwind can be noticed or whatnot. So it's pretty amazing if you do it any skinnier, it'll make it faster and better. I don't like slower. So do you, so Kayden, do you play around with that? Do you tend to play around with your first setup? Kevin was saying you liked it when you find something that you like, or that works. You just tried to keep the same thing. Now that like foils are getting so new technology and stuff, I've been trying a lot of stuff and I'm liking so much more stuff. And all these new foils that are coming out or Alex will bring him down, like a couple of different foils, like custom wants to try. And it's probably opening his mind a little bit, just to you just gotta try it, so I was learning a lot about Lyft and all that stuff. So it's all the homeschool year was also foil homeschool year. Yeah. Cool. I mean that, that's definitely a pretty high tech stuff that everyone's working on. I interviewed Kandel while too, and he's really into like foil design and computer design. And all that engineering type stuff I've been totaling in with my tow partners, Jason Polk, also another great. And we've been using cane stuff for the toe foiling. Again, Jason and I were just out there just Muppets, just like why can't we do this? Why can't we do this? Cause we, we're okay. Talented people and we'd be sharing it and we'd be like, oh, this doesn't work. We'd move it. Two inches didn't work. And we had Kane come out with one of his foils and we took it out and he's just boom gets it set up. And they're like, oh, there you go. Yeah, hold on. Something, two inches is probably like way too much, right? Yeah. We burned not clean. I got so frustrated with it, cause you're, especially on the toe in with the bigger ways that it's, yeah. The fi I'm not going in huge waves, you're going down that way so fast and it's pretty scary when the cane stuff is really good. Cause he, he's on it and he's, making custom foils up at the cannery up here and he knows what he's doing. So it's pretty nice to have a little bit more stability and for what we're doing, probably the production stuff. Isn't really, there's not many people that are towing with foils, out in Maui stuff. It's kinda cool to have him do some stuff with us. Okay. What something I always like to ask everyone is how much of your skills is like just natural talent that you have, naturally, and how much of it is, practice time on the water training. And I think Katie and I are very opposite in that answer where I for me, I'd take repetition. Like my windsurfing day is I was out there every day, any condition whatsoever, just hammering on it and that was what I think separated or put me into, world title scene is that I was like one of the first guys to my brother and I, and, we had a little group of people and we were the first guys to take it seriously. Like weren't going out partying weren't you know? Oh, it doesn't look good. We're out there every day, any conditions? Cold, stormy, oh, here comes a storm and Mally, which we don't get, oh, we're going to go chain for when we're in Europe. And we're in this miserable conditions we're out there. So we're he starts one thing even as mountain biking, when he was like four years old, he was like doing these huge jumps down the hill and he won't do it for two months and then I'll be better than me. And I'm like how did you do that? You didn't have even written your bike in six months. Yeah. I can think I have read with my team. Yeah. I know we have this cool mountain bike up in McWell forest, then you flow trail down. And I remember taking him up there and just this little tiny kid, just sending all the money. And maybe that's why you enjoyed the ring. Cause you get to jump so high. Yeah. Yeah. But even then with his backflip, you saw on may 60, tried it the first time and then on May 12th, he's landing up and now he's boosting huge stuff, so yeah. So yeah. But maybe you can answer it on Kayden. Like how do you feel? Is it talent or practice? My one talent that helps with everything that I do what's on the water is I would say I have pretty good balance. And that helps me with a lot of stuff. Yeah. I think too, he's got a trampoline, every kid who has a trampoline, it's pretty cool because you can do those backflips and. I remember you had a skateboard with straps on it, so you can visualize what do you think? Oh, cool. Yeah. I always think of balance as not something that you're naturally born with really, but it's something you can practice, right? So if you doing all that, if you're doing sports all the time, that require you to have good balance, your balance is going to naturally get better. And then that helps you with everything you do probably, right? Yeah. It's definitely if I didn't have good balance, I doubt I would be worried I'm down. What about visualization or like doing moves in your head? Do you do that? Do you try to visualize it before you get in the water? For me, I like try them in the water, like just with my weighing and without my board, I would just like visualize. Pulling the wing backwards. And then I did some, I do some flips on my trampoline, like with my hands doing the back flip and that helped me so much. Oh, you know what else I saw him do? It's pretty cool. Is winging with the one wheel that looks like a good thing for beginners on a one wheel for that. You just, but you get the feel of the wing. And then that's interesting. Baltz Mueller was saying the same thing. He was practicing his backflips on the trampoline before he was doing them on the water. Just to figure out the wing. Because that's pretty tricky. Cause you can really kinda get back winded or falling on top of the wing. That's the tricky parts. I bet I didn't take the wing on a trampoline, but I feel like it would definitely help with taking, knowing I'm a trampoline on a bigger trampoline. Cause mine's a lot smaller. It would be a lot easier than doing them with the foil, like straightaway and then landing on top of the way. Like my friend tried them straight away with not really knowing how to do a back flip on the trampoline and then he just couldn't get that flip dialed in. Now he knows how to do it on the trampoline, so he'll be landing. So he learned that, oh, he learned it on the trampoline and then he went. So for you Kayden, like what's a typical day, like for you let's say you're doing when you're homeschooling and just like a typical day for you? Homeschool for me, I would start at nine o'clock. So what time do you get, what time do you wake up? Do you wake up early or do you try to sleep until the last possible moment? Or I wake up at six 30, so I try to wake up early and then I do sometimes I just, I'm super tired and I don't want to get out of bed and I'm just like, okay, I'm going to go back some of the AAA to get my blood flowing. Then I go do that. And then I have breakfast. And then I sit and do stuff until nine o'clock and then from nine o'clock to 12 o'clock I do my homeschool. And then from my grandpa comes and picks me up at 1230. And then we go to an wing to like four. Then I come back here and clean all my stuff and put it where it goes and then same thing the next day. But if there's no wind, then I would probably wake up at six and then go prone for a Lang before school conditions are usually better early in the morning, Molly, where the wind kicks in. What about your typical day Kevin? What is your day look like? Pretty similar, except for, without the schooling. Homeschool. Usually I do a little computer work and see what's happening for the day. Check the conditions if it's, yeah. You have a morning routine. Like when you get up, do you do like exercises? Do you have coffee? Like I exercise my scrolling through the Instagram, wake up and get right on your phone and just look at Instagram. Yeah, I kinda recently I've been looking for a sailboat. That's been my like focus. I wanna, that's why I was on a wahoo. I was over there checking out boats. I got a slip down at my Elias. I need to get a boat in there. And I I have a van over on the mainland, the sprinter van, and a lot of exploring. That's like when I like go into Baja so much. Now my dream is to have that sprinter van in the water in a sailboat and kind of checked out the islands, be able to go over to a wahoo and, hopefully get these guys into exploring a little bit more, go over there and be able to, wing and kinda do fun stuff off the boat. So that's been my focus recently. All right. That's cool. So is this going to be for as a hobby recreationally? Are you also planning to do like charters and stuff like that? Or is it more time? Just the house it's hard right now. Cause for me. Maybe, but it seems like everybody on Maui is making money doing like Turo or this and that. And then I'm just like, I'm just cruising and I'm like, no, maybe I should do that. That's great. If you can, if you don't need to make money, that's good. To make money. Yeah. Good. So where do you see the future of the sport going? What for wing fighting? And what are your goals like? What do you hope to do in wink filings, Kayden? I'm hoping to learn how to do a front flip before I'm 12. So when are you turning? 12? August 17th. Okay. Yeah. That's enough time she learned to back slip in one month. So the other day I was down there's this guy dictionary, have you heard of that book? Yeah, he's doing a wing book. And so I went down to take pictures of of Jeffery and doing that forward thing and Finn and holy smokes. I'll be impressed to see you do that. Cause like we're like you guys were talking about with the the stall when he's doing the spins and stuff, like he goes up and, just goes up and then he kicks it out too and then throws it forward and was just like, whoa, like scary. Yeah. But I think it does look similar to doing forwards on the windsurfer. It's like you're throwing yourself sideways more than forward. But yeah. Are other people besides Jeffrey and them doing the forwards or yeah. Tetouan is doing it. I was talking to him about that. That was asking him for pointers and he's I don't have any pointers. I'm just trying to figure it out myself. I don't know yet on your podcast. Yeah, I interviewed him. I haven't published it yet, so that'll be all probably before your guys, this one goal post. So I always, it takes me a while to edit the footage after I do it all. So yeah, I enjoy interviewing more than the editing process, but cool. So what about D do you think you can Kayden that you're going to do this, as a job that professionally, like making money with wing funding or is it just going to be fun for you? Or what do you think? I have no idea what it's going to be. It's either I. I don't know. Do you think you're going to try to do any of those events like the world? What is it called? The world furthering tour or whatever they having those world championship events. Yeah. I want to do one here first and see, cause I think they're going to do one over here soon, or I don't know, but they're supposed to be one this summer for something, but I don't know if it got canceled or whatever, but I want to see how I do and one over here. I get really good. Then maybe I'll start doing this. I don't know. Isn't there like a full contest on Maui this last weekend? I thought there was like, I donated some prizes for full contest to be here. I heard about it in behind it. And it was just a standard era. Did it prone and stand up. And the second day it was supposed to be wind foiling. I dunno, you didn't okay. You should have done that. But the level over here, there's quite a few kids that are really ripping, like some of his friends, you're just like so that will be a good if there's a contest here, it will be pretty high level. Yeah, no doubt. I'm always, definitely the epicenter of the progression. So it's pretty wild him grow up here. Like we grew up on this tiny lake in the middle of California. I always say to my brother, I'm like, man, just imagine if we had this set up we're kids, we were done with it when it turned out to be pretty good. I think, I think one of the, what you guys had was that sibling rivalry, right? So like brothers, two brothers, you guys trying to do each other. So you always pushing each other. And I think that's also very valuable, I think, in sports, right? Yeah, for sure. That was like a hundred percent. That's for sure we were. We were best friends. We trained together, we lived together, we pushed each other, when we were young, he'd do a move and then I'd be like, oh, I can do that. And then he'd be like, oh, I can't let my little brother do it so better than me. So he'd push it. And now one cool story we had was when you were, he was 16, he just got his driver's license and I was 13 and 14 and my parents let us to take our van. My dad's. We had a Windsor fan. It, let us take it from Southern California, drive all the way up to the Gorge, just the two of us and spend a month up in hood river, just wind surfing and having fun. And I'm like, I couldn't imagine sending him. You're going to be like that. He has a younger brother too, obviously, so well, but he's right. Maybe when you can drive it, you can do stuff like that. Yeah. But still, that was like one of the best summers ever. So it's pretty wild that looking back like that my parents let a 16 year old and 13 year old drives, what is it? Thousand miles by themselves. And it's pretty fun. But we had, we learned a lot and we had a lot of fun. Is your, is Matt older than you? Or younger? Older? Yeah. Oh, so you were not even 16 yet. You were like 14 or 15 or how old are you? I was like, that's cool. And then you were friends around that, her old, like all our lives. We've been around older people, because windsurfers are old, but like our best friends were our parents growing up because they wanted to win. Sir, my parents are super young there. My dad just turned 70, I think. He was when we were 15, he, he was only 35 or whatever. I miss doing the mapping now, but, so he was super young and we wanted to go wind surfing. And so we were like, we want on the weekends at school, we'd rather hang out with my parents, then go party or whatever. It's pretty cool. Okay. I have a question for both of you guys. So for me personally, and I know this happens a lot of people, like some days you're on the water and everything's just like every you're totally in tune with your gear and the conditions and everything's working, you can pull off all kinds of moves and you're just in the zone. And then the next day, sometimes you'll go out in the same kind of conditions with the same kind of gear, but like everything, you're just like a kook and you keep falling in and nothing's really working. So how, and it seems like it's not necessarily like the conditions or the equipment. It's more like your state of mind. So is there any, anything that you do to get into that state of mind, or do you have any pointers on how to avoid being that kook, or changing your mindset from being a cook, to being in the zone? For me, I feel like I try to always be in the zone because every time that I'm feeling like I don't want to, I'm just not in the mood or I don't really want to go I'm super tired. Then I would just I wouldn't try any crazy tricks or whatever, or I would just not go winging that day. But the times that I do go in and I'm just not in that state of mind, I just I don't know. I land one move that's hard to do. And then I get fired up and I'm like, okay, now I'm good. Again, like that's I feel so sometimes you get into the zone while you're doing it. Like kind of thing, but yeah. And what about you, Kevin? Sometimes when you, that, that makes sense that not just don't go out when you're not, when you're not feeling it, but like sometimes if you're competing you don't have that choice. Like you're up and you got to go and is there a way you can switch from, how do you switch on that, getting into, I dunno, I wonder if that's like something I think that was one of my strong points competing is as I was like, never really the best guy, but I was always just there, and just keeping that mentality of just being steady and, going, performing at a level all the time. That's high and. There's those certain moments where you're in the zone, for sure. You always talk about it, you hear about it. And then, in your there's certain moments where throughout my career, where I was like, oh, man is what was he in conscious almost, I was just going through it. And that's hard to, it's hard to get into that, but, just happens, but I think just the more you train, the more confident you be, you are. And so I think that kinda just, for me, it was always the training and just going out there all conditions and always pushing yourself. I think Caden's a little more smart, smarter than I am he like when he's not feeling it, it just doesn't go well, I've always pushed through, don't be a whiner. Just go. Yeah, that makes sense. I know some people are, it seems like some people are actually better when they're competing. Like they get, they like, it pushes them to perform even at a higher level. Would you say you're like that, like we're when you're competing, you're actually better than when you're just practicing. I would say so. Yeah, for sure. For me, I was like, yeah, like I said, never really the like wildest one out there, but then when it came to game time, I would would be able to, land all my moves and my strategy was just do the moves that you can make. And, let the other people fall by the wayside. A lot of times these, I go up against these kids and they just be, sending it huge, which is cool, but then they would land it. And then I just do my little job and advanced a lot of times. Okay. So like a little bit playing it safe and doing the things, you can do and not trying to do crazy stuff that you don't really have mastered. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That makes sense. Okay. Kayden, would you say you're obsessed with foiling or is it just a hobby for you or would you say that obsessed and addicted to it or not really? I'm definitely obsessed with, yeah. So what is it about foiling that makes it so addicted. It just feels like you're flying basically. And that's like with surfing, it's really hard to get into the air, but, and when you do get an air, you're only in the air for a second, but, and then it was winging. It's just like when ever you're up on foil, it feels like you're flying. And then when you're in the air, you're also flying. So it's like, all right, I'm up on the foil? Probably I'm like in the air on foil, probably like 98% of the time. And then surfing I'm in the air, like 0.5% of the time. Yeah. What about prone foiling though? Even that you're on the foil a lot less than when you're winging for it. Yeah, but I love riding waves, like in any sport that has wave riding in it. I want to try it. And it's prone flailing. I'm starting to like that more than like when you're in perfect conditions. I like it more than surfing in perfect conditions. Because you have that glass, you smooth water, those perfect long wave rides. And you can like, when you're really good, like Kailani and Zane and all those people, you're up on the foil, like 50% of the time pumping around, and that's what I want to get to that level. I can pump out and touch like 15 waves before I get tired, but I get tired after five. So yeah, pumping back out is takes a lot of energy. I can't even imagine 15 ways, maybe two ways. That's pretty much it for me. That's awesome. So other hobbies and cross training and stuff, I guess you do mountain biking. Anything else you guys do for like when it's not, when you're not in the water, I guess not in the water. I have a one wheel and that helps with my balance and with the wing sometimes. Go and practice my tricks. And it's like a lot harder when you're on land than when you're in the water on the wing. So it definitely helps me like, get the moves dialed. And then I tried to go on the biggest wing that I can be on when I'm on land so that I can practice doing the bigger way. And then once I get like good at that, then with smaller wings, like it makes it so much easier because you feel like you can, you're spin super fast. And then that's like my biggest, my favorite thing to do on land is probably one wheeling and trampoline. All right. It's a question for both of you guys. So during the pandemic, a lot of people felt isolated and the kinda lonely or depressed whatever anxious being at home, being stuck at home. And I know for us, it's always easier to be like, ah, just go in the water and have fun and everything's fine, but let's say you, you're stuck inside and you can't go on the water or you can't go outside. What do you do to if you have an off day or if you're not feeling great, like what do you do to lift your spirits or to stay positive? On those days where it's like horrible for any sport and you just don't want to move or whatever. I usually like. Watch some winging videos of like new moves that I want to try. And then I like stop them and watch them over and over again. I see how they do it and then I want to do it like that. And then sometimes I play like board games, like monopoly. I love monopoly. It's it's fun. Thank you, Kevin. I guess a little computer time would probably be, I don't have, I don't have TV in my house, so not really a big TV watcher, but yeah, I dunno. We're so we've, it's bad to say, but for us on Maui, it's been just like the, I dunno, the best year ever having COVID, it was. So much fun, like all of the spots that normally are actually now it's back to normal, but like we'd go to twin falls, which is this little waterfall and you go there now there's like parking directors, like telling you where to park it's fault, blah, blah, blah. During COVID you'd just go out there. There's insane waterfall and be like two people, one person. And for me it was like probably the, it was the best year I've ever had on my, after 30 years. So you got to, I stayed here during the summertime where normally I go to hood river, to around in my band and explore. I stayed here on Maui and it's forced me to explore my backyard and there's so many cool spots out there, like just hidden spots, different spots. And I would take my E I'm an E biker. I love biking and I would just ride every day. I went out there so many times I can't even count. And I would just ride my bike and explore and explore and go to different waterfalls and different things. And so for me, the COVID was just. Unbelievable is awesome. I totally agree. Yeah. The thing about like that, the thing that I missed about traveling really was the adventure of seeing new things or exploring and things, but you really don't have to go that far to explore it and you can, yeah, you can go some, just go on a trail that you've never been on and it's oh wow, this is cool. So you can have an adventure without getting on a plane and sitting on a plane for 12 hours or whatever, you don't really have to go that far. And you're on a Waldo to like some, when like you would drive during rush hour and there's no cars on the freeways. Like what's going on there. I love this, get somewhere in 10 minutes that would take 45 minutes on a normal day. And also, I think it kinda like over here too, a lot of people are like, do, why do we really need 30,000 people arriving every day? Maybe $10 or enough, but I guess our economy is pretty dependent on tourism, but it sure is nice to have a little bit less traffic and less people everywhere and stuff like that. For sure. Here, I always said it's like the whole world was playing musical chairs of w where to go. And we won the game, like being in Hawaii is like, we're one that is pretty safe, I would say. And for two is the best place in the world to be this last year. As far as everybody's pretty healthy. And we were, I would say the rules were very relaxed compared to my friends in Europe, so it was pretty, pretty awesome spot to hunker down and and enjoy what the islands have to offer. Cool. So Caden, if somebody asks you what foiling is like, and they've never foiled, like how do you explain that sensation of flying a foil? Why would you say it's like the fly you're going to fly though? What if somebody does not to fly? Like just, it feels like once you get up on the foil, it's like the first time that you get up on the foil whinging, it's there's nothing else. Like it. Cause it's you the wing board and the toilet, and you're just floating across the water. It feels but those are the really good days for doing it in those flat water and not super strong ones. So what's it like when the wind is super strong, then it's a little bit more hectic, some nights for me, it's like I'm holding on for dear life, but then, it definitely balances out because there's spots on Maori where you can go, like when there's really light wind, there usually there's usually enough wind to get up on foil in Maui, like every day. Yeah. That's crazy. You lucky for sure. So who else should I interview on this? On the blue planet show about wing filing? Who do you think I should talk to? Alex started like the whole surf foiling thing. So I think that would be cool. Cause I just read this interview thing that someone typed out on a website and it was really cool to learn about all that stuff. So yeah. Yeah. I already Alex actually to be on the show, but he's been busy. So he said when he has some time, you'll let me know. Maybe you can tell him that he should get on the show. Anyone else you'd recommend talking to? What about Annie? Have you had her on there? I had any record on there right yet on the show. I'm trying to, obviously I'm trying to get Jeffrey Spencer Kailani. I don't know. Been able to get them on the show. They're busy, but I had seen Zane Schweitzer at Allen kid is mark Rapa horse. A bunch of people from Mali. There's a couple of cool guys on, on the mainland. Like Brian , he's one of the, he's a good winger and, pioneered a lot of stuff in California with the wind surfing. And now he's doing winging and he's into photography and video and he made all those used Houston make like side off video with doing all the, how tos and stuff like that. And then he switched to kiting and now he's in the wings. Okay, okay. Off slide on video. You can find them through that somehow. Okay, cool. All right. So yeah, that was awesome. So what are you goals with with your YouTube channel? Kevin? Just for fun. This kid loves that. I said D LA he's it's not called a B log. And I'm like, yeah, I knew that. I knew that, but I kinda like the logs better than blog anyways. So yeah. He's yep. I'm doing my new V log out here, guys in Mexico. But I think, I've been on YouTube for like over 10 years or, time. And it's I think the main thing is just being consistent, like posting on a regular basis, like maybe once a week or even once a month or whatever, but just always coming out with new stuff and not, that's the key, I think just then people start following you and once you have subscribers and your videos get more views right away, and then that's how you build limit 10, but it takes years mean really it's hard for me cause I just see on Maui, it's just the same thing, for years and years, but that's where it cool. The log is, you can show your personality and different stuff and it's not just like this beautiful imagery, I'm I've been in the making videos for awhile and stuff. So I get if I don't do it like to perfection, a lot of times like a nice, like I love John's stuff. 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Aloha friends, it's Robert Stehlik, welcome to another episode of the Blue Planet show.  On this show, I interview wing foil athletes, designers, and thought leaders and ask them in-depth questions about Wingfoil equipment and technique. I'm also trying to get to know my guests a little bit better, their background, how they got into water sports, what inspires them, and how they live their best life. I'm a visual learner, so I'm adding visual content that you can watch on YouTube, but you can also listen to it as a podcast on your favorite podcast app Today's interview is with the very first wing foil world champion, Titouan Galea from new Caledonia. If you're into wing foiling as much as I am, you've probably already seen the videos of him doing crazy moves on jumps, back flips on the face of the wave, big airs, riding big waves in New Caledonia and other places. Really impressive stuff. And of course also being able to pull these moves off under pressure during competition and winning the last couple of world championship events.  Titouan breaks down some of the most advanced moves for us, Step by step. We also talk about his background, how he grew up in new Caledonia and now lives in France and about his board, foils, wings and what the future holds for him. So without further ado, please welcome the talented Titouan Galea. All right. Titouan, thanks so much for making some time to be on the Blue Planet show. How are you doing today? Great, thank you for inviting me. Yeah. Awesome. So here in Hawaii, it's it's 10 o'clock in the morning and for you it's evening, right? Eight o'clock or something like that?  And you're in Montpellier France. Is that right? Yes Okay. But originally you grew up in new Caledonia. So can you tell us a little bit about, your background, how you grew up and how you got into water sports? Yeah. Born in new Caledonia and my father was doing windsurfing and kiting, yeah. Maybe around 2000. So yeah, he teach me when, so thinking like surfing when I was about like eight or nine and yeah, I've been projects learning where mainly and some other places yeah, since. Maybe I was 12. I started doing it quite often.  Studying wave kite surfing mostly. And then what else I've done? Yeah. Foiling came like maybe six years before. Maybe seven. I started with kite foiling on my own when I was about 18 years old and yeah, just one year after I moved to France and I joined the French team of kite foiling. So I've been doing lots of wind sports and yeah. Then the wing for the game. So two years ago, and now I'm doing a few other sports most of the time. Pretty much. Yeah. Awesome. Congratulations on being number one in the world right now in the rankings. That's pretty impressive. How old are you now? 24 actually, I actually had to look up new Caledonia. I've never been there, but just for people to know where it is. So this is New Calidonia and Australia and Hawaii is here. And then this is new Caledonia, right? There's a place nearby, which is very famous. Is Fiji.  exactly the same swell, like Cloudbreak receives So yeah, we have same waves as other spots, so yeah, it's really nice space. And actually it's much more like it's windier in New Calidonia then. Yeah. Most of the time it's yeah. When you're in New Cal. So what's the prevailing wind direction. So what is the prevailing wind? So yeah, Southeast is like this way, right along the coast. For the surf, is it better on the south shore? On the north shore? Both? Yeah, cause it's windy almost everyday. It's tricky. Sometimes a winter and a bit north is so we have good surf on the west coast. Now we surf manly on the west coast. All disposed comes from south is south. Yeah. From depression, south hemisphere. So all this welcomes between a New Zealand and Australia and they, most of them come from south Southwest. So it's all all the stuff sports on the west coast. And so I guess the best ways are probably in the, in, in the winter there, which is summer in the Northern hemisphere. Is that right? Yeah. That's where we get you as big as well, like June, July, but actually there's way happening. Pretty much all the alarm really it's like entireties is have good swell too in. Pretty much all year long. They receive also no swell. We're not receiving the really, we can have like very good session and increased in may. Not really, but yes, there's a main season. Yeah. June, July, August. That's where exit peak of swell is where we get the biggest swells. All right. And then, so you've been out on the water windsurfing and kiting and so on since you're you said nine years old or something like that long time before I was pretty much sailing on small boats, like I don't know, optimist and stuff where I started  when I was nine. And do you have a early childhood memory that where you just realized, oh, I love this. This is what I want to do with my life or. There's always been a passion, but when I moved to France from Nicole, for sure, I said, okay, I really like this. I'm going to try to do it like professionally and try to make it as my job. And yeah, it's nice. And so did you move to France so you can be easily compete more easily? Or what, why did you move to France? Okay. Y yeah, two levels from Nucala is such a nightmare. There's not much light. It's super expensive. I didn't have big budgets in the beginning, cause yeah, it was just starting. So I will not live in Newcastle and travel all the time from new Caledonia. It's too much money for me. So yeah. I decided to move France, much more things happening, you guys are now. Yeah. You had to show to people, where is it? There's not much people knowing where it is. It's not a not places like Hawaii is like, everyone is looking how I there's a lot of things happening in Hawaii. Lots of people are there just a few people that are like writing professionally. So you stay there all the time. To be well known by people. There's not much you can do, like it's better to move to France or Europe where there's more evidence, there's more writers. So it's better for me even to progress and have a bit of emulation. I can say this in English. Yeah. That's a Friday around you. And also, yeah, now it's a fun. And they are also based in more per year where I'm living. So that makes things easy too. Yeah. So in new Caledonia, are you a French citizen or what is yeah. Yeah. It's like a department of science. It's easy to stay here for me also. I didn't start in the beginning, but now I'm doing a source today has a pilot license. And so I'm about to finish it in a couple of months. Yeah, looking forward we'll have like much more time to do many other things. Yeah. I guess new Caledonia is pretty far away from France. It's like pretty much on the other side of the world, right? Yeah. It's 35 hours flying almost because of the connection. Terrible. And also, if you want to know, I dunno, in a state, in the USA, it's so complicated. Really. So is it traveled from where it's super expensive? Like flying from new Kalamazoo to Europe is always more than yet 2000, sometimes 3000 super expensive. Talk a little bit about flying. I know it looks like you do paragliding and glider, plane flying and so on and you're. I guess you, you said your goal is to become a pilot do you have a pilot's license this now? Or? Yeah, of course this is gliding. So I have the license. I'm also piloting small airplanes. So yeah, my goal when I will be older is to do it like as a commercial pilot, but it has always been a passion for me to start by writing when I was pretty young. And when I moved to France, I had this thing also guiding super nice. It's much better to do glider here because when it's all the time strong, so it's better to fly a lighter than a paraglider. Yeah. And then you you also like doing like the kiting on snow around, it looks like. Thing new gal never will discover this thing. So it was nice to do this was things in trends to realize the mountains, the landscape are amazing. And yeah, it's a nice way to, to visit the mountains. Yeah, that's awesome. Cool. And then now basically you're able to just be a professional wing foiler now, or Kaiden wing further through F1 through the sponsorship, that's enough for you to make a living or do you have any other jobs? No, for now I have nothing else. So moving from this before it was a different thing. We, the Federation was helping a lot too. Like it was more, more structured thing. Now we was a wing, so cause it's like everyone, one of the wing is pretty good in the wing too. So it's working great too. Okay. So let's talk a little bit about the wing foil world tour. So recently you just won both the freestyle and the racing, right? So you're number one in the world right now. How does that feel? Hey, it's nice. We had two, two Evans last year also and both had finished and spouse, a one over one he wants. So I think it's going to be a great battle against this guy again, this year. Yeah, it seems like he's your biggest competitor right now. Huh? It's like he's right behind you. Yeah. Tell us about the last contest you went to, where was it? And and how was it while were the conditions and how has traveling to, how is it to travel during the pendant? It was not a big travel. It's one hour and a half from my house now. So yeah. I know four people from outside, it was a to travel cause fem a lot. Definitely was okay. And what about the convention? It was nice. Super well, have a nice the place it's like the wind was fully off shore, so maybe it was not waves at all was like the sea. So yeah, it was very difficult to have like big gems and setbacks was really tricky and freestyle. So on that flat water and we had to racing to we're going to have a wave and I'm really looking forward to it. Cause I think that's a windfall it's much more funnier in ways that war. Yeah. The waves make it more interesting. I guess the, that event in Brazil last year. There was there was some like a small shore break, but not much in terms of like breaking away. Yeah. It was not breaking ways, but still has, like proper waves to really enjoy it. So yeah. Presumably can do something. So we're calling actually 50% of the score on the ways and 50% on a freestyle. So that was okay. But as you can see, we can there was no way at all. So it was 100% of freestyle. The wind was just blowing off shore. Yeah. How strong was the wind? Like how many knots do you think about was the wind hit during the contest with w we have five days of competition and we only had two days off and the first day was probably around 30 knots, something like this. And the second day we had 20 to 15 knots no more, but he has, the first day was quite strong, quite cold raining all day. It was quite a tricky condition. Yeah. It looks perfect in the video, of course. Yeah. Yeah. That was the second day. Was that? Yeah, 15, 25 minutes, depending on the sign. So what size wing were you using? During the freestyle and what size during the racing? And just curious, like different con equipment Thursday, I told you it was, the wind was pretty strong. So I was on my three five, and that was the last day as you can see, I was on my phone too. Cause it was like, yeah. Less wind on the first day was the racing Thursday in 30 nights. I was, I think I was in a five and a five. And and the second day we did a race after the freestyle and it was less and less. That's when I went on my, I think on my five and my six or seven after really big wins. So talk about this, on that one back flip, I guess your foil landed on the wing and left a couple of holes in it. And it was okay to just keep going. That was okay. Cause I had the pressure and the motivation was it. I was doing the final against spouse. Yeah. I was building my studying by the like small small streaks. And I came to do my backlit. Normally I do it all the time, but this time I crashed and I crashed like really bad. So I ended up into the doing with the foil. So it's got a bit like two parts of my wing and it had me a lot of pressure. I saw I pulled still a fly, so I went again, fall back asleep, and then I did my Qualtrics again. I knew I was in. Good. Yeah. Awesome. And then you, the racing, what we're using different equipment for the racing and like how was that? What kind of course was it and so on? Actually, no, really. I bring, I dunno. Yeah. I bring many boards to test and see actually, yeah, I use exactly the same for freestyling and racing was the racing. You had a bot. Off downwind where you will not use the wing at all. So you had to pen, so we could not use super small 500, 600. So yeah, so I had my hate Android coming quite soon with a fund that I use this country's guide and I'm racing to, there was really I was supposed to this done with, but I will have used maybe a 500 or 600 because it was much faster, but because we had this down with, but it's really nice that way. It's not, everyone has such small force, so it was better for everyone, I think. So how did that work? So the downwind part you had to you basically had to pump without the wing or how does that work? Yeah, it just basically grabs the wing from the front handle, which is in the leading edge and you just keep going. That's it. And then downwind leg, you're not allowed to use the wings. You have to, you just use the waves to end the foil to go down. Yeah. Yeah. It was very short, like longer, but it was like, I don't know, 200 meters maybe normal. I see. So like a super small, super fast than racing wing, like you would use for kite racing or something like that would be wouldn't work for that. Yeah. Maybe I could do it, but I don't know, take safety and don't take such a small cause it's not working like sailing a normal racing regatta. It's elimination like freestyle. So if you lose like one race, when you're over, you have no discards, nothing really. You have to perform on each race. Who's one time if you're over so better takes safety. Okay. Interesting. So basically that, that's pretty interesting. So you basically use the same equipment more or less, same foil, same board, same wing too, for the racing industry. So yeah, the last day, cause it was like very light when a, I use a bigger board. Yeah. For the freestyle. I was using a 30, 80 there's sports and yeah, for the racing, because it was super light when we were on those six or seven meters. How was he seeing a 44, 50 with 50 liters and and a big wing, like how light or how much, when do you need to get up on the foil? Like how many knots would you say? You need to get it? Maybe seven, something like this? I think around seven. Yeah. If I was still using a small book, 50 liters, it's not so small. If you go like on the sup for example, like for down winner, Like on a sup a thing you can go even lower. I want lower for sure. Maybe we have a 50 liters. That's good. Wow. That's impressive. So if the DWA came to you and said, Tetouan, you can have a contest anywhere in the world any kind of format. So what would you say this is? This is the perfect contest. What would you choose? I don't know. It's a tricky question for sure. Love to have one in proper way, like I have at home, like big waves or like Cloudbreak or even Whereas like these more, maybe more shoes one I wear or maybe someone might, I guess something like this really visa one day, for sure. I'm not sure it's going to happen anytime soon. So yeah, it would be nice maybe not such big ways, but I know not super hollow, maybe also retreats in a way, because it cannot bear from trees. But I think now, I'm trying it by now, like to perform tricks into the way, and this is very interesting. I think we've not big waves, like even less than, but I dunno where honesty. I don't mind I can go on, but this space there's many places for sure. We can do this. There's many places we can do maybe in a couple of Brazil. I don't know many places in Maui, too, in front of the beach or even lanes. I don't know many places. Yeah. So wave contest. Obviously you probably the waves are more interesting than the racing, right? Yeah. Really racing. I don't know, competing this year for the two, but there's no sense doing racing. We've already tied, fallings out, performing very good already. I think it's better to keep this sport. Yeah, like this really? This is better really. Yeah, you're doing some amazing stuff in the waves and I'm just like pulling off big jumps on the face of the wave and stuff like that. It's pretty impressive for sure. So maybe walk us through a little bit what you're doing here and what I find really interesting here, when you're doing a bottom turn, how you sh she didn't the way almost like wind surfing and yeah. Can you talk a little bit about that? Your technique? You're going to have the full story. It's fun. Yeah. It gives a video. You can see on the learning edge. I have a Sikh, which is my comment on it because I had this thing. I could not grab the phone from handle. So that's why I was keeping the wing in my hand. But I've journey. Yeah. Afterwards I saw it looks great. And it's helped me to do maybe better bottom sometimes, but also you don't see much when you go to this thing because I don't have window in mind. So I don't know. I like both, most of the time I just grabbed it from handle. I used to do this, but yet since this time I was using to see I'm doing more and more like winter. Yeah. It's really interesting. And then when you land with the foil in the whitewater, Does that actually make the landing a little bit softer? Is it actually easier to land on whitewater? Is it hard because of the turbulence? Yeah. Yeah. True. So you can jump on a, fall on the shoulder and you're going to land on flat or even on the steep part is going to be tricky, but it's going to be hard yet for your knees and everything, but yeah. Landing in the white water, it's much more softer, but afterwards also move a little bit. So like in this side of waves, it's okay. But more than this can be tricky to learn. Really. I don't know. Of course we're going to perform more and more, but more than this, for sure. It's going to be tricky to learn in a whitewater. I don't think there will be lending like big areas, like 10 feet away is for sure not going to happen. I don't know. We'll see. It goes so fast. I'm really looking forward to see what's going to happen. Five years in the sport. Really. I'm really stoked to be part of it now. It's crazy. Yeah. Is this the same way that from the, with the GoPro max? Yeah, it's exactly the same way, but just so from outside, this way you can have a, yeah. That's super cool move in. And I think there was another one that I wanted to show where you're doing like a back flip on the wave as well. Whereas that one that's funny. I think. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah. So doing all those freestyle moves on the wave and I guess that's like the whole, the next the next step right. Doing days ago. Yeah, you can go from back there and 360, but now I'm doing good this time. I was training now I learned my last post and then a good one. So for sure you can lend some front flips into the waves to probably double to build also seven 20. Yeah. Awesome. I think you've already been attempting those right? The 17, seven 20. No, really. If I attempt was not made on purpose really. I have to really, I have to try seven 20, but as a thing, if you do a pre 62 high, most of the time you go turn over rotate and they never land seven 20, but I have to try it for sure. Yeah. Th the. Let's talk a little bit about the backflip. I think the tricky part of the backflip is like when the wing, when you're kinda got the wing between you and the water, and this just looks like a really tricky spot to be in. But actually at this moment, if you have a good, Hey you okay? Yeah, really? It's all about the Pope. Really? If you both, while you get the good hate and you just like, yeah, totally good. I got to Trumbull line. If you, at the end, when you see yourself pointing towards the sea and the wing in front of you, normally you're good. Really? There's nothing can happen. It's all about the beginning. For me, I think so as long as you have enough height in this position, then you can pull out of it. But if, I guess if the water's underneath you at this point, then you basically fall onto the wing. Yeah. But it's happened to me many times for the first time. So maybe walk us through it step by step. What do you like, I guess for the pop, like you're trying to get the anchor, the full angles up as steep as you can. And the takeoff. Yay. You have to get a good spirit. Not to agree, not to cross man having a good speed. Yeah. It's like hard when you back. So you try to go hi, and you have to put your head in the back. I'm not doing really putting the, your eyes, like going back in the back. It's I think it helped for sure. And after, yeah, on this one I grew up myself, to make my myself like maybe faster. Yeah. That's pretty much it after it was a tricky part also is to position the the wind. Like it's a bit hard, like to explain to everyone the main thing you to think, as a wing, like not. Into the wind, again, the wind, as you can see on the highest spot I am is a wing is just like in the middle. Not taking much like the wind, the that's not against the wind. It's just in the middle. Yeah. And that was just the one above. Yeah. When I'm upside down exit wing. Yeah. I want to get back winded, but you also don't want the wing to pull you down towards the water, right? Yeah. And one other thing is give advisers it's much easier to learn, move some ways, for sure. Like a good key here, like coming, just cross I don't know. You didn't, you don't need nothing. Just one fit normal coming against you. It's gonna help you so much. Really? Yeah. Just have a steep ramp to launch off of. It will for sure. Okay. So yeah, no, that's awesome. And then what about, is this the one for that? I think so this is not the one, sorry. Yeah, so maybe walk us through that move. Like the Ford sort of, it looks a lot like windsurfing actually like doing a forward on windsurfing, but not the same though. I don't know. Maybe I'd done a long time ago, but I think it's totally different, but I'm doing maybe winds of sight. The decision I had paid, cause it was a waste, but I don't think, and from it this way, I saw some old guys now doing it, like more like Trump line again, like throwing themselves in a, from and me I'm more using the wing to do it. So I think I have to learn how to do it, but this one looks great. It's nice. It's just a bit tiring for your knee. So basically you, this one, you getting up, you try to go high first and then you spin sideways almost around the wing. It looks very great. Or w how do you think of, what do you think about when you're doing it? I really, I don't know. I just learned like a week ago, this thing. Yeah, you have to turn the wing, like upside down, like towards the water, like super fast and keep pushing, pulling you back normally itself. I don't know. Really. I don't have much advice really. I didn't learn a lot yet, so I don't all the time, but I have to. Yeah. It's super cool that you're pushing the limits. I think without, it's always easier to do something once you see somebody else doing it and then can figure out how they did it. But doing it for the first time is the hardest, the first point to learn it is always the hardest part, right? Yeah. Especially for the, like the guys in Maui. And they were doing back flips since mom already, but because we didn't have any advice from anyone, it was really hard to learn it, same way, but now, yeah, I get it. Many guys go now in France. So I think going to go faster and faster, I don't know for sure. Are kids now doing it too? The forage flips. Yeah. Yeah. Not so much here on the wahoo, but I know on Maui, a lot of the guys who are doing the backflips now, the younger guys, so this is pretty good too. So using a kiteboard with the wind wing. Yeah. This is not something I'll for sure. And yeah, in France sometimes when that's in, look at where we had the competition to the wind is blowing like super strong sometime. So yeah, this time I can use my cause he was like, I don't know, 40, not something. Yeah. I think I saw somewhere where your dog, like there was a longer version of it in your dog. Is that your dog chasing you on the beach? No. That's not even mine. A friend, maybe. I don't know, but yeah, that was pretty cool. So in terms of, I know the F1 wings don't have windows. Like how do you feel about windows? Do you think it's that's always a question people have, do you need a window? Or like, how do you feel about having windows in the wings? Really depends if you go in a crowd or no, I don't use to go to play so much crowded, so I'm okay. Without window. Yeah. It's the only time I told you before was when I'm using it in a way maybe. And I do like bottom turns and stuff like Windsor style. I cannot see inside the wings. So that can be a problem sometimes, but maybe it will come with some windows. I don't know. Cool. Some amazing stuff you do and the waves are really impressive. So what do you see hap like for the future? What do you think will happen? What are your goals? What do you think is possible? What do you think the future holds for wing filings? Maybe now I have a better ID, but in the beginning, like a few months after it came, I was thinking it was just a little thing, but not thing to grow at all. So I was totally wrong. Really. Now it's becoming such a big thing that companies are doing, like lots of work on it and focusing on a lot now. And also it's really nice, but how I see it, I don't know for me. Yeah, for sure. I really like going in a ways. I think it's a really good time to go in a ways and have fun in a ways. For sure. Yeah. People want to also put the freestyle now that they're doing competition. So we have, it's much easier to do freestyle and racing event weather event. So it's gonna push a freestyle again. Good thing. We, what we're going to learn in a freestyle and we can add it in a ways too. So it's going to be even more interesting. I think the wind serves are doing tricks in a way, so we'll come with this too. What else? Yeah, it was me. I want to know is just, yeah, I prefer going away. I really want to do like videos in good places bringing in good ways. Around the world. I'm really looking forward to this. Yeah. So one of the tricky parts of winging in the ways is if you get caught inside of a big set and then a big whitewater is coming at you just cause the wing has, the wing just gets torn. So pulled so hard by the waves. Have you ever like broken leashes and lost wings or blew up the wing and so on? Like how do you deal with that? Like when I went in bigger ways, I don't know why really. I had many sessions, but I never felt once in UK then. Yeah. So I was lucky. I was not like pushing too much at this time. Maybe now if I'm going back, I will do maybe go deeper for sure. But yeah, I've been in such big west, but still I've been culturally smaller ones in other places, even here in France. And yeah, I broke a few leashes for sure. He broke some time. It's a nice things though. It doesn't like to touch your arms, which is nice, but yeah it's tricky if you're on your own and there's not much people around you, you can be in trouble when I'm in a new car going in big ways. There's always boats taking care. If never something happened is always. I know friends with boats or is always going to be a solution, but yeah, if you're on your own, I know people like more shoes they go in and sometimes it publishes. And so when just go away in Madagascar or I don't know, so they have yet to swim back to the shore. So yeah, sometimes it can be tricky. It's the same way when surf and as they broke a lot of gears, the waves, it's almost the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. It is. We were just talking about what the best solution is, because it's just, yeah, it's hard when you lose your wing. Sometimes I think it's maybe even better just to let the wing go when the big set comes. And then try to turn the channel later, yeah. Depending on what size of where you were talking about the one, it was really big in your cow. I didn't put even a Wenglish. I was without really all the time. Cause it's not going to break anyway. So you'd better, like it better, doesn't have a leash that way the wing might not be broken by waiver. There's a good chance of doing won't be broken if you don't have the leash. So it's nice. Yeah, sometime first you're not going to have a bullish. There's no sense. It's super dangerous. Yeah, but then yeah, you just have to be pretty pretty sure of yourself that you're not going to lose your gear. We're also talking about that maybe you could put, they have those apple air tags or whatever like a satellite locator thing that you could maybe put on your wing. So if you lose it and it's like out in the ocean somewhere, you could find it, with, find your iPhone and look for your wing and then locate it like that. So later on you could go back with a boat and find it or something like that, I think that's I never heard about a thing where not so advanced, I think you need cell phone service to make it work probably. Yeah. Yeah, it's a second another idea, but I was wondering like you have some of your boards behind you, so if you could only have one board for all conditions, like including light, wind and so on, what would be the board you would have, maybe, can you show us your w the board you would choose if you only had one board? Our hands, really? If suddenly I have to go in that maybe I'm gonna take this one, so four, eight, four, eight. Yeah. That's the one I use in super-light with 50 liters visiting. I can go, yeah, that's super light, maybe 12, 12 knots with a normal wing, like five. So yeah, that's the one I would take. So how much do you weigh? I weighed 70. Okay. So a good volume for you and I'm sorry, what did you say about 50 liters or? Yeah, that's 50, but really that's only if I have to go like below 50 knots, I always using yeah. Around 35 liters. Normal, really? And then when you start, you put your, you put both your feet on the board already underwater and then get, let it pull you out. Yeah. Yeah. I just sit standing up on the surf board with my knee bands and the water and I have my wings up and I just go out to water. Yeah. And you just need a good Gus to get you going. And then once, once you're out, it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think, I had a lot of questions like this. A year ago, six months ago. But I think now, I see here many people using small boats and I think the same on how I were quite strong too. Now, pretty much everyone is using small boats. Yeah. It's pretty common to use smaller boards, but I still like using a board that almost floats me. I use I'm like 88 kilograms or something and I use a boy that's maybe 75. That's yeah. Okay. Around yet. Yeah. Let's look at some of the ways. And is this in new Caledonia that this video, can you see it. Yeah. That was a long time ago. Yeah, that wasn't NewCo was one of the first time I was going to the reef. That was almost two years ago. Yeah. These two years ago. More than two years ago. Yeah. It's been a while. Huh. Let me see, like there's some more recent ones. Yeah. I guess not much. So pretty soon after they moved to France, basically. Yeah. I call often in UK. Not now, this was two years ago or a bit less now. And after this year after this, as you continue, but after this, I went back, just went when it started Yeah, that was the first time I was trying to Germany a year ago. Nice. But it's really, you're the level of your whinging and the level of everybody's winging has progressed a lot in just one year. It's pretty amazing how much everybody's getting better at a really high rate. Can you give some pointers on landing big jumps? Like how do you keep the landing soft when you do a big air? If you're going like. Most of the time. Yeah. A few moments ago, I realized like it's much better to land on a tape all the time. So that's what I'm doing now. I just end up on a tailoring all the time first. And that's the only advice I can give out. Honestly, there's not much I can say about it before I was trying to learn, but it was like giving lots of pressure on me and everything, but I realized that tail was a bit easier. Yeah. And I've seen some people trying to land with the nose slightly down. So the front wing goes in down at a downward angle a little bit. So it doesn't hit as hard, but then it's hard to pull off. It's hard to pull it off because just the board gets sucked down on onto the water. Yeah. You can do this with small gems, but really once you start doing high, really, you can not do this again, really. So you on YouTube to watch videos on YouTube and YouTube. Yeah. That's the only station I filmed, but now that I'm listening, I'm more involved in this now. Next time. I have been much more of this administration and I only see him that one, but I want to go again. I'm just wanting movies now. What's your, I think like foiling in steep waves is a whole different ball game. So do you have some, maybe some tips or pointers on, like controlling the foil on, on the steep fast wave? Again, can you repeat the question? Oh, just with the foil on a steep, fast moving wave it's just tricky to keep the, to control the foil. So do you have any tips on how to, how you do that or any points? For me, it doesn't feel so tricky. Just depend on if you use the right size of a wing. I think it's okay. This is, this was writing a 500 centimeters square was pretty small, pretty good, small, thin fast wing, basically that you can use in the bigger waves. It makes sense. Yeah. And yeah, it would be cool to see you write those ways this summer. So do you have any plans to go back to new Caledonia? Anytime soon. Not yet. Sadly some now with 15 days of quarantine where there's not much light, so yeah. Maybe I'm going to travel more. Some other places it looks like on this one you are wearing a leash or you said you weren't using any least a leash. This time I was not. I was wearing. Yeah, because there was only one boat and not much people around. So the waves were not so big. So it was okay. But really when I had bigger condition, when this, and I was not using the wind and not using the leash, big base, many people, and it's all my friends. So again, I know if I release my wing somehow, because of course, if I Excel because you're going to help me another thing, if I don't have a solution, I do a mistake. I don't know. I'm jive on attack and I release the wing. And third, like far away in a, in the channel can be a problem. So when there's, when it's big and with lots of people is can help me, but there was no one out. So it was on my own. That's why I was using zoom. I'm just curious when you're coming out of the water after a good session. Are you having dinner too? So when you come out of the water with your gear what is and people come up to you on the beach what is the most common question that people ask you. Like everywhere you mean? And every spot. Yeah, just like when you think that's like the most, most common questions that you get. I had quite a few questions. Maybe the most, the question people ask me the most probably it's how do you get up on small boats? But there was like, I had many, and now less and less because people start to use these small boats too. Especially in the beginning two years ago, when I was using already at 25 ditches boats. So many people were asking me, how do you get up on such small wars? And now I'm using what gear should be grateful. These of this condition. Yeah, they're still looking at the size and Maluma my boss, but not much question about like technique and stuff, because there's not much people sending even trying to do back flips and stuff like this, just stop jumping. So yeah, yesterday I had someone else. Give me, take out, how can I jump a higher. What can I do? Yeah, of course, I'm going to give him tricks. It seems like the question I get a lot, like from people that don't know how to wing for help, they always ask like, how much is it? And they think that they can just buy the equipment and then do it. But once they have the equipment yeah. That's from people that are not already writing, but I thought you asked me what people writing me, like question, but yeah, of course, random people or even, yeah, kite surfers when Sufism will know the prices, but yeah, random people walking in the beach there. They're all asking first. What is the sport? How is it called? And yeah. How much does it cost? Is it hard to write? That's a pretty common question. I think. So this was another different event. That was just a teaser of the, okay. So I went there just to do a teaser for was crazy. The event was crazy strong again. So what what is your favorite move? Do you have a favorite or just depends on the conditions and is there like one, a favorite move that you do now? I like back flips because it seems very easy. So it's nice to do two fro like a good one when there is a good waves in front of me. It's nice when it's like couple waves too. It's to do what we saw a few times. They like to Jen facing the wave and landing again in the waves on whitewater is really great. Cause you can do it sometimes really high and give you like good sensation is same as when surfing. Like you have very good possession. People are doing tricks in the waves, but the tricks, I think the most is like big aerials. So it's the same in wind falling. Okay, cool. Yeah. It's awesome stuff. You're doing. If you let's say you're stuck inside or, like during the pandemic, a lot of people were like quarantined or they couldn't get outside. And and a lot of people get feeling lonely or anxious and depressed and so on. So when you're having a rough day and you can't get on the water, let's say what would you do to stay positive or keep a good outlook? If I have to say, if you're having a hard day, it's always easy to go in the water and have fun. And then that makes everything better. But let's say you can't go in the water. So make it a little bit harder to answer the question. What do you do? I will try to work on something. Now I have to study, I can video or do some stuff like this. So I don't know to make my days better. Probably I'm going to watch some video of not athletes from the past like a few days ago I rewatch, I don't know the name. Red bull TV on a one on one chapter. I don't remember the name, but he has, he made a good video with Jesse Richman CAHE and Robbie nation in Fiji. Yeah. I love to see those videos. It really inspired me. Yeah. Yeah. It's called chapter one. I think. Oh, cool. I have to watch that. Is that kite, a kite surfing video or skate, surfing video all around the world. And there's is a big part in Fiji, some of hers in Indonesia. So yeah. Very nice film to watch. Let's talk a little bit about your wings. Like your, the F1 wings, like how would you compare the original F1 swing to the new F1 strike? What are the differences and what do you like about it and so on. Okay. It's totally different. It's much more steeper. It goes much faster. It keeps his shape. Even if you like pull out your back hand, even strong wind. So that's totally a different way. Like it's yeah, just more rigid. And the profile remains the same with even a lot of pressure on it. And it's still like very light, very easy to use. It's really a wing and much higher too, but that's also the GDT name. And then I, like I saw during the, they have a new wing for racing too with an extra like an extra baffle in it or extra kind of almost like inflatable battens. Is that right? Yeah, I know how to pronounce it in English breeds trust. I think it's the same as the one in the middle of it's a smaller one, but it's not another wing. It's also the try, but be a size from the six meters, three strips. Okay. Let me see if I can pull that up. So yeah, you had it before it's on video, straight wing, but on the bigger sizes they have this extra extra thing here. So what is what does that do? What's the advantage of having that? Cause. So when chip is always touching the water, if you put, if you make the wind bigger, like maids may doing like super wide wingspan, so they had to put so fast on the court, and if you put a lot of code and not was trust was stretched and not going to keep a good shape. So we was three stretch is going to take, keep a good shape. I think this is a profile. The profile is much more like that better. So you get less and less flutter and stuff probably too in the trailing edge. Yeah. Also sometimes in strong winds, turning edge can flap on those ones are not at all. So yeah. Who knows maybe is he gonna use it on the smallest size later? So let's talk a little bit about the foils. Are these the foils that you're using? Yeah. Downright. Yeah. I'm using a nine 40 or is it okay? Yeah, same chamber, much smaller. I know if they're online yet. And and wood, what do you like about it? W why is it? Why does it work? You think it's a medium aspect ratio, so pretty a few brands are coming with this. Now we still have a good glide ratio. You still have a good speed, which of course the smaller, the weight, and also improving, not gonna have the same book because the aspect was a wing makes a good book too. If you have a high aspect, me, you're gonna have a better book in the lower aspect. So this is like a medium aspect wing. It looks like, right. Yeah, that's what I said. So I think And then the, as like a nice curve to it, but then the tips are slightly turned up again. Do you find that helps when you, when the wing tip breaches and helps you help? When the Winship goes to it doesn't catch much bubbles there in the main curve. It's too to have the full stable and maneuverable. Nice. And then the, is it the mass and the fuselage or one piece. Yeah, you can see it with the three screws. The connection between the mask also is two bucks. And then the tail wing. Do you ever do any shaming on the tailoring or do you just use it the way it is or whatever, but this one's already, not that not so small too. And welcome. We have already like smaller sizes tailoring. Yeah. I'm using mesh smaller than these ones, right? She is the curve tailings or is yours more flat or what kind of shape is your, the one that actually the one I'm using now it's more curl will come with stone, like this much smaller. And I think it's going to be better because you have better maneuverability and probably. Better speed too. Is there anyone that you would like to thank for supporting you over the years and in your career? Like anyone that's helped you or supported you? Probably my parents teach me how to, he teach me catcher, so he brings me into his sports and my mother taught me a lot in the beginning. Buy me some gears now. Probably a fun. Cause they took me since beginning withdrew both together. So they helped me a lot in the beginning. And your, are your parents still in yukata? Caledonia? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My parents are living Danza, gonna stay there forever for sure. And you're gonna keep going back there. When do you think you'll ever end up living there again? Or do you like living in Europe better? I really like Europe yeah. Going on a night thing. I really like Ireland too. And was specifically for the condition. The thing is now there is a lot of people don't talk about it. Cause it's, as we talked about in the beginning, it's not a well-known place where there's a lot of sharks attack. Now there's many people eaten by sharks every year, like more than in Australia, many places. So it's going to be a problem for specifically, for people that are going a lot in the world like me. So I will see. And for sure there is good play, good places. Be some nerves. Somewhere else. I haven't been to French refugees, so I have to visit more places to see if there's somewhere else again, I can say, but now I'm not going to stay in France, for sure. Even if I really like space for all the things, but I don't have in islands. Have you been to the Canary islands or any other? I haven't been to canneries. I've been to, I was in the Caribbean this winter too, really? I think I prefer still. I think we've had, I think we have better condition where it's not not also. I have all my friends were, their thing is much easier. Yeah. I think we have very good condition too. Yeah, it looks pretty amazing. For this show about wing fighting, who else do you think I should interview? Are there any other good people or friends you have or people, that would be interesting to talk to for insights about when quilling you've been interviewing Zane bowels and who else Yeah. Yeah, penny Riker for the athletes. Yeah, and a few other people, but yeah. W who else do you think would be good to talk to men and women? You already did, honey, any record I talked to then who, I don't know. I really want to heard about advice and tips from the Spencer boys, or it would be nice if you interview them. Who else. I don't have much. Hi girls. Huh. Who is pushing in France? There's a girl who won here in in the cat. It's Olivia Kenna. Yeah, she's doing good. Who else? I don't know. Who is pushing along, talking to you there? Is there someone in their room with you? You want to say hi she wouldn't be at and say hi on the video now. Okay. Heidi. Just telling me. Okay. So Olivia piano, Jeff Jeffrey. And For sure. I would love to, to hear what Ty thinks about his fame, but I don't know. Yeah. He has time. He's pretty busy. Yeah, it's hard to get him be nasty if you can reach him. For sure. Yeah. Cool. Anything else you want to talk about? Usually like at the end of these videos, most people already left, but there's a few hardcore people that are full, crazy that they're still watching. So do you have a special message for those people that are still watching after an hour and a half to say, thank you to you. It's nice. But various people like you doing this thing for sure is going to interest. Many people are on a roll. And for me, it's nice. You're giving me a person who I'm going to hear because yeah, for sure. I really want to hear what a yeah. So I'm going to look at them for sure. Next month. All right. Thank you very much to rich and to me for this. I'm really happy. Yeah. Thank you so much for your time. It's always fun to talk about wing foiling and I just find thinking about it and hearing other people give pointers. It's so helpful, when you get on the water and try something new, if you already have to do it again Jeff real  I really wish I had advice for backflips and many for the backups for mum. I didn't try and match, but if I had only a few advice, like I did this video, you should go a lot faster and faster circles. Yeah. Loads of people are doing it and yeah, it's gonna spray many people are gonna do it soon for sure. Yeah, thanks for sharing your secrets. Now you're going to have more competition sometime. Yeah. So you have some tricks up your sleeve that you that you're working on right now. Like new tricks that nobody's seen yet. No, I have to work on it. I haven't, no, I'm not pushing much, honestly. I've been almost always following. Yeah. I didn't learn by flick even the front flips. A few perfectly, but. I came after his one who land one during the competition, the 360, it was probably bus or someone else doing it the first. So now I'm not pushing my freestyle anyway, that's I start liking more and more now, but in the beginning it was not really something I like really, for me, the wing goes in a way and that's it. But now, yeah, cause I said, cause you can do tricks in a way. It make sense for me to also learn tricks and I don't see any yet doing, she'll be only this. So I helped competition going to be more and more in a way. Okay. So one more question. So when you think about like your skills, is it how much of it is just natural talent that you have, naturally talented for the sport and how much is it practice and thinking about it, visualizing, and then just time on the water. We're practicing it. You're asking me about me. Like how much of it is your talent and how much of it is practiced on the water. Okay. That's yeah, I don't want to be like, I don't want to say I'm good. I think I'm not working much like for trick. So I think it comes from talent. Interesting. Really? I just, now sometimes people see me and can look and try to understand. Most of the time now, just on myself, I don't push much money, save myself doing many times and just do a few drinks in my session. So maybe it came from Thailand sometime the video from 11, just in one day is a backlit for me to maybe a bit more for sure. Yeah. It's also all the experience he hasn't before that. And other sports and other things. And also he was the guy who were lending his brother and defray that keeps so for sure he had good advice from them. So what Baltz Miller was saying, like a lot of times he like dreams about wing foiling, or he can't sleep at night and he's like thinking about it in his head a lot and stuff like that. Do you spend a lot of time thinking about weighing foiling or visualizing it in your head or? No, but really I'm not thinking. I'm thinking of a lot of things. It was the thing, but really I'm not really, it depends if I had a really big condition, like a superstition, of course, I'm going to dream about it, but accommodation, even doing tricks and stuff. It's nice, but it doesn't give me like such big waves, man. Yeah. All right. Thank you so much. This is really good interview. I appreciate your time. I have to get going too, but good luck with everything. I help you. Stay number one in the world. That's awesome. Just keep doing what you're doing and you're in spirit inspirational. So thank you for that. All right. Okay. Have a good night. Aloha. Bye bye. All right, friends. Thank you for watching another full episode of the blue planet show. You made it all the way to the end. 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Episode 34: Aujourd'hui direction Tanger au Maroc. Dans cet épisode j'ai invitée ma copine Nikky avec qui j'ai été à Tanger le temps d'un week-end. Nous avons visité plusieurs villes Tetouan, Chefchaouen et enfin Tanger. Nous parlons de notre ressenti, nos expériences, nos rencontres et de la gastronomie locale. Un voyage riche en émotions que nous partageons avec vous avec plaisir. Il est vrai que l'on se questionne avant de partir dans certains pays quand nous sommes noir.e.s. Nous précisons bien qu'il s'agit de notre expérience et qu'elle ne fait en aucun cas foi pour tout le monde. Si tu veux suivre Nikky : instagram.com/queen_bobby_55 Bonne écoute. J'espère te donner envie d'explorer des lieux dont on parle peu. Si tu aimes mon univers n'hésite pas à rejoindre notre famille vagabonde. La vidéo en lien avec cet épisode sera disponible prochainement. Pour contribuer au podcast: patreon.com/curlysaltytravel Pour me laisser un pourboire: utip.io/curlysaltytravel ------------------------------ Retrouve moi sur instagram: instagram.com/curlysaltytravel Tu peux aussi t'abonner au blog pour recevoir des informations pour mieux t'organiser afin de voyager. Le blog: curlysaltytravel.com ---------------------------------------- Prochain épisode dimanche dès 7 heures (heure de France) --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/curlysaltytravel/message

Transcript:  Aloha! It's Robert Stehlik with Blue Planet Surf.  Welcome to the very first episode of the Blue Planet show. I'm here in my home office, in the garage, and my neighbors are doing construction. So you might hear some noises from outside. I'm super excited about this new show and my first interview is with Zane Schweitzer and the show is all about wind foiling and lifestyle and technique. And so on equipment and anything about wing foiling which is what I'm super passionate about right now. And I want to know more about it. So that's why I want to interview all the top thought leaders on the leading edge of the sport athletes, designers, and so on. And next week's interview is going to be with Balz Muller He's in Switzerland. So we got a big time difference. I'm super excited to get him on the show as well. And talk a little bit about his super radical moves in wing foiling. I was inspired to start the show by Eric Antonson's progression project podcast, which if you haven't listened to it, you should check it out. I've been listening to it when I'm driving around. It is really a great podcast? And I'm going to post these interviews not only here on YouTube. But also on podcast channels.  That's going to be available soon. So if you don't have time to watch the whole thing on video, we will also have this available as podcasts. And I know it's pretty long form interviews, but I know if you're into wayfinding as much as I am, you'll be interested to watch the whole thing. So in this video, I asked Zane about his background as a Waterman. He started really young as a professional windsurfer and then stand up paddler. And then now as a professional foiler and also a coach and teacher. So he has a really good background. And then he talks about an accident. He recently had a really deep cut from his foil and the, from in the waves. And there's a lot of learning experiences that he shares in that. So it's good to listen to, but the visual is pretty gory and bloody. So if you're sensitive to that, he might want to skip ahead to around 30 minutes where we started talking about wind foiling, actually wind foiling. And then we talk about when filing a bunch and then at the end, We talk about life and life during the pandemic saying positive, having gratitude and so on. And that's actually my favorite parts of stick around for that really good stuff in the end too. So I hope you enjoy the show without further ado. Here is Zane Schweitzer. All right, Zane. Thanks so much for joining me. It's my first time doing this blue planet show. So super stoked to have you as my first guest. Yeah, thanks so much. It, yeah. It's great to have an opportunity to chat with you again, it's been a while since we've got the connect. So let's start a little bit about your, tell me a little bit about yourself and I'm gonna screen share and play some video of you growing up from YouTube. Let me see here. I was going to play this video.  Can you see that? Yeah. All right. So tell us a little bit about yourself growing up and all that. Yeah, I grew up here on West Valley over in, Kahana and, being surrounded by my big brother. Who's five years older than me and all his fans and as well, my, my parents. And all their friends I got to be surrounded by some pretty amazing watermen and water women. I think my brother really had a huge influence on me though, because at that time all him and his friends were like my heroes, like they were all the up and coming junior pros and the sharp board surf world, like dusty Payne and Ian Walsh and Granger Larson and clay Marzo. And so I was always chasing those guys around and. So I got introduced to, big wave surfing at Honolua Bay at a pretty young age, just chasing them around and think big wave surfing, really set me on a journey to just be super in tune with the ocean. When, as soon as I started feeling like the excitement of riding big waves, that's when I really fell, I was just caught by. No. And for all by the ocean, because the, for that time, I was probably more enthralled by my little mongoose bicycle, but yeah, pretty quickly, started to, get into winning, surfing and all that kind of stuff. And on the professional tour, I was about 12, 13 years old. When I first started on the professional tour for wind surfing. Yeah, I really, I first met you. That was that battle of the paddle, right?  The second battle of the paddle when you were just a little grim, I think just traveling by yourself, doing the race when you were still pretty young and yeah, and that was years after too. I was already a pretty. Familiar with traveling at that point, by the time standup paddling came into the world. But it's cool to see it go first full circle. Because when I was competing as a professional windsurfer, all of a sudden Starboard's started to make these standup pallet boards. And of course we heard of them seeing like guys like Laird Hamilton and Dave Kalama out, driving paddleboards, doing downwinders and stuff, staying fit. I would sent us, sent me one actually Connor Baxter, and I believe we're like the first people in the whole country to, to get a standup paddleboard from star board. And we had so much fun on them before the wind surf event started. We would we would bring these up pal events on our travels and, before the wind came up, We would be out in the water, palling around catching waves and, doing all that kind stuff. And everywhere we went, people were like, what is that? What can we try this? And we would, young little, 13, 14, 15 year old. And we were like hosting clinics all over the world already at that age at wind surf events, sharing this new sport of up paddling and. And it's cool to see it come full circle.  We've seen kind of standup Palin and go from being,  this little, a niche of a thing to the world's fastest growing sport. And now here we go again, we got star board sending us hydrofoils. And earlier before that, I got to work with Alex, a Yara and this was my. My real first enthrallment with Stan, with with hydrofoiling excuse me. I tried it before with Brett lyrical when I was probably 10 years old, but it was just like one time and I was able to get up and go in, but my legs were too small for the strapped in boots. Cause at that time it was on a first-generation rush Randall. Foil Bret lyrical and all the boys layered Hamilton, all those guys were using and, they had one on the motu Island and, they asked if I wanted to give it a go and I threw my feet in it and was able to get a feel for flying, but never, I don't know. It just was a one-time thing. And until I saw. Alex testing these downwind foils. And I got involved with that early round of development with Gofoil and I, it just changed changed my world for sure. The first time getting out on a foil one of his gold foils, I remember riding it all the way to the beach and thinking this is the funnest thing ever. Like it was my Dan, the Hina, which I grew up riding and Hola Hina doesn't really ever get too exciting if you're, used to surfing barrels or, overhead waves, it's more of a longboard spot. But with the foil, it was so exciting. These little knee-high away, we were able to, ride all the way to the sand and then even pump back out. And this was. Before pumping was even a thing. It was just like, wow, we can make our way back out there. It's just Johnny, and it's amazing how fast it's changed because that feels like that was just months ago, let alone years ago. And  the gear has really changed. At that time we were putting 12 foot six race boards. Onto down lenders with the foil. And then we literally Ross mucin the owner of starboard and cornerbacks there. We would, you're on the boat. Cutting a foot at a time off the board. Oh, okay. 12 foot six then it worked. Let's try 11, six, then there's Stan on the boat with the hat saw cutting a carbon fiber all-star race board just chopping foot after foot. And then we got down to I want to say we got down to maybe eight feet or nine feet long. And the foil was just too far forward. At this point, it was like, it was just a scrap. And we're like, okay, now we know let's just go small. And after that I put a foil on my shortly after that. Maybe not immediately after that, but Modify the box huddle box onto one of my hyper nuts, a 69 hyper not, which was one. I know I've used that board a lot. Standup paddle surfing. And I already had the board around in my garage and had this thing modified for a go for oil. And it was so fun to be able to get out on a down Linder and just. Not even touch the water from malico bolts all the way to call her the Harbor, but not only that, the be going faster than I ever could have imagined and having so much fun the whole way down. It's. I don't think I've done a normal download mirror on a support. And it's probably been about a, I'd say four or five years since I've done like a solid season of training on a race board for down lenders  racing scene. You gave up on that pretty much. I didn't give up on it. I just, I'm having so much more fun doing other things and so much more other opportunities doing other things. There's, there was a few years in my career and in my life stand-up paddle racing had the most opportunity and there was a, it was floating my lifestyle to be able to be a big wave surfer at winds there for Astana, pallor, but really I was floating it from stout, pallor races and.  Now I feel like we have, we've had a little bit of a shift in trends, stand-up paddle racing and it's just taken a little bit of a dip and either foiling and wing riding or just taken off. And my sponsors are excited about it too. So if I love it and my sponsors want me to keep doing it. Then why go compete in a Lake in Europe to go paddle 17 miles flat water? For me it's not exactly where my heart is it, but I'm all, I'm definitely a guy who sees opportunity. And so I knew that I could train and I could be a great paddler. And I've won most of my world championship event wins that are under my bill or from racing. And it gave me so much experience to travel the world and to, get a taste of, really what it's like to be a true professional athlete and racing racers. I definitely it's different than surfers. You get into diet, you get into training, you do everything you can to get that incremental increase. And so just transferring those skills that I've learned in professional stand-up paddle racing. Into my surfing lifestyle, whether it's big wave surfing or foil surfing and wind surfing, I feel like I'm able to, make goals and smash them. And it's whether it's a mental obstacle or did I say mental, whether it's a mental obstacle or a physical obstacle, I think between the preparations that an experience in these different areas of sport. Can can implement it, even if it's just I'm just the, my wife and I are starting up our own a foundation this year. And it's funny because a lot of the lessons I've learned in sport, I'm transferring into business too. And yeah, but I, you do a lot of good things like beach cleanups and looking kids and all that kind of stuff. Is that what your foundation is going to be doing too? Yeah my, our unofficial not-for-profit that I've ran for about 12 years is the insane super drums. And we've introduced over 4,000 kids. We've lost track by now. It's been so unofficial, but definitely I'd say over 4,500 kids in the last 12 years to ocean spore and ocean activism and conservation. And our main goal of course, is getting them stoked on and having fun with each other. They're on the water. And then at the end of these Oh, and then at the end of these events, get the kids hands on with the beach cleanup or some sort of a science and education exercise around coral reef for microplastics or the Marine biology and the. Eco diversity in the area, there's it's a lot of fun. So that's something I've been enjoying doing on my travels and at home, on the side of competing and and training. And it's really rewarding because I give so much credit to where I am right now as a professional athlete, because of all the lessons and all the mentorship. I've had from, guys like Dave Kalama and my dad and Brett lyrical and Archie CalEPA. And I'm just so grateful to have had these these positive influences in my life. And I think growing up, my parents always encouraged me to share those same experiences. And now at COVID hitting, all contests going to nothing, it was a good time. I thought to really actually make our foundation official. So yeah, this is maybe one of the first public announcements actually. But our new foundation is  and Yeah, we'll link to that and have a place for people to get more information prepare. When I asked you by doing this interview, you told me you were laid up with stitches and so on.  Just wanted to get into the story. I probably just posted this video a few days ago on YouTube. So tell us about this day. I just stopped telling the whole story with what happened and stuff. It started off as, a pretty fun day just trying to hunt for some waves. And I knew it was a pretty windy day. So I brought my wing foil and foil gear as well. And  scored some waves at home, the little Bay first surfing, and there was a blast and the whole time I'm looking at the wind line, just thinking all it's cranking Lynne. And I cut my S my surf session, a little short to go wing foil at one of my favorite shrimp training spots, unless Molly, and it's a little more countryside. There's usually no one out on the water when I'm, if it's windy out. And definitely the only person, laying foiling the area. And so this same to go for this day. So I went out on my own very quick session. The tide was pretty low, which is normal for this spot. So I'm just getting my board out, upside down with the foil up and right before I cleared the reef, there is a set that came and it wasn't a big set, but it was, it was about head high, little overhead. And it was enough for me to hesitate letting go of my board because I had no leash with my board. And so I held onto my board, like just bear hugged it. And in the whitewash, as I'm getting pounded my foil swings around and mix my leg, or I might've even kicked the foil. I'm not even sure. Which part of the flow you hit or are you not sure? I'm almost positive. Just from the shape of the cut. My mom was positive. It was the trailing edge of the tail wing. And it wasn't very wide, but it was very deep. And that's why I say that because my tail wing isn't super wide. But it went a good inch and a half, two inches all the way to the bone. And so that's why I think it was the tailing. And the buzz is probably the sharper to it. Yeah, exactly. And so I'm guessing it was that trailing edge of the tail wing and was able to get in at an angle to go. Go down deep as opposed to slice. And so when I got, it definitely hurt, it felt like more of a Charlie horse at first, but as I'm getting back on through the waves, I'm like, I felt something flapping a little bit against my leg and I'm like, I lift my foot up out of the water, which you could see in the video. I'm like, Oh man, this, I cut myself. And just went straight in from there. And  learned a lot through this video and as well through my talk there, because I ended up doing tying my leg a little bit with my leash. It just seemed like the right thing to do. It was already attached to my leg. And I tied off my, my my calf a little bit thinking, I could slow down the bleeding and That for everyone who's watched this video and I've included in the caption as well. There's a big, biggest learning lesson for me is you probably don't need to turn a kit an injury, unless it's too big or messy of a cut to have a pressure, a wrap on. And so a pressure wrap would be better. And once I get back to my car, I realized, Oh, I got duct tape. And so I ended up using duct tape and And I also didn't know I had this little, I almost forgot I had this little first aid kit in my car and it had these gauze pads. And so that would've been ideal instead of tying it, just putting the gauze or a clean shirt or something, and then wrapping duct tape, a pressure wrap for a cut like this the time that a tourniquet would be necessary from what I learned. Is say if it was like a really wide open cut and you can't just put something over it to stop the bleeding and so yeah, I could have actually made my, then my situation worse if if I had a long drive, luckily I only had about 30 to 40 minutes before I was taken off the tourniquet and being seen by a doctor and Yeah. So that was my biggest lesson from that is yeah. Mean, I think for everyone who's into sports in general, but also hydrofoiling or surfing and that's over reef, it's always good to have some sort of first aid kit. This one that I had in my car was crap. It's a generic first aid kit now. After really having to deal with that. I'm like, I've re reassessed my first aid kit and I have a nice, a good sized bottle of alcohol and hydrogen peroxide. So immediately you could wash the wound and the area around the wound. You could have a bunch of gauze. There's, my gauze is great and duct tape or our ACE bandage. Cause then you could do a pressure rap, but I was lucky that I had some gauze, cause I probably would have ended up just doing a dirty shirt or something. Yeah. It looks like that duct tape was the best movie they made because then get a tight on there. Obviously we have a little bit of a delay here. That's why we sometimes talk over each other as  silence, but So in terms of like your learning experiences, obviously you said first aid kit, that's suitable for deeper cuts and stuff like that. What about Foil Hatton lane or, have you thought about just like Sandy, the trailing edge and here for us to make sure it's not as sharp or like any other learning experiences that you've been passing a hundred percent. To avoid all this, just wear a leash, like I, I had a 10 foot surf leash in my car that I used for my surf session before. And I actually, I was like, shoot, I forgot my foil board lease, which is normally a short. And thick leash. And and I held my longboard leash from my hand for a moment. And I'm like, ah, nah, I'll just know these shit today. It's nothing too crazy out there. This is just another session. I'm always out doing this anyway. And I, and because I didn't have Alicia on my board, I held on to my board and I kept it close to me. Whereas if I just had a leash on my ankle, even though it might not have been a dangerous day or anything that I can't. Control. It was a random situation where I chose to keep my gear closer than it needed to be. And so add a question button, this video real quick. It said that the clinic closes at 3:00 AM. You got there at three 15 and then, but then all of a sudden you're inside. Is that the same clinic or did he have to drive somewhere else or no, I had to drive to a different clinic all the way down. All right. No, not to call Louis. Luckily there is another Hina clinic open that closed at four and I was able to go visit them. Okay. Okay, cool. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Sorry, I should put like the little annotation or something on the video, so people know. Yeah. It seems like these nurses are really cool. And and then I was, I'm not going to show all thing. It's pretty gross. But then you actually pass out while they're stitching you up. Yeah. The funniest part was, these nurses are they're foil and they surf and we're already friends. And so when they saw me come into the office, they're like, Oh, what happened now?  And we got to, we we got to have fun with it and everything, but yeah, why I asked if they don't mind me filming and they're like, yeah, that's cool. Just don't pass out on us all laughing. And I'm like, yeah. Okay. Whatever, I'll be fine. I normally am pretty good with with all that injuries and treating, being there to treat yeah. But I think I got a little overwhelmed because I'm stitching, they're stitching me and I'm filming. And then all of a sudden, my mom called and my mom, when my mom called, I went to go answer her phone call. And as soon as I lifted the phone to my head, I just remember saying, I think I'm gunna. And I just. Went out. And luckily the other nurse that was there, caught me from rolling off the table. Oh, they also injected some like local anesthesia. Yeah. Yeah. Cause they, they really had to go deep in and clean it out. So  they shot me with Santa Ana, STI whatever pain relief stuff. And then they really got in there and scrubbed it with With these these hospital grade bristles. Yeah. So that's a important process, clean it because you don't want to get an infection, especially when you have a deep cut like that.  They ended up doing three different layers of stitches, one against the bone to close up the muscle. And that, that bar, or that bottom layer, and then another in the middle to pull together that Whitey, fleshy, fat look and stuff. And then another layer on top to close it all up. And by day two, I already felt an infection coming on. When my leg was starting to get swollen, my glands were getting swollen. I called up the doctor and I'm like, Hey I think it's getting infected. And so I came in and sure enough, it was They needed to on day four, I think it was, they reopened the whole thing. They cut open all three layers of stitches and they had to do this process all over again, where they got in and scrubbed it with the same stressful thing and and just flush it with beta Nene and all that good stuff. And and yeah, it got pretty bad actually to a certain point where I'm sure you're pretty familiar with staff and Marissa Robert, being here in Hawaii for so many years, but it's nothing to take lightly. And I've been hospitalized many times and threatened to even, have a lambs cutoff if it were to get any worse. And so I was on top of it, but. This infection happens so quick. It was crazy. And it got to the point where I was like, they almost sent me to the emergency room to get antibiotic Ivy, drip just through my system or I'd have to pretty much stay there for 12 to 24 hours and be monitored. But luckily we were able to catch it, and they reopened it. They were really aggressive with the cleaning and the draining process when they, when this. Dr. Heidi here stitched me back up after reopening it and cleaning it. What she did was she placed a rubber piece of tubing on, under the the bitches. And so for them, for the following days, it could actually continue draining out as it's healing. And that's what really, I think, did the job, was, that getting back in there and cleaning it.  And now I'm on the man. I think I'm in the clear and hopefully be back back on the water in the next five days or so. Nice. Wow. What an experience, huh? Yeah, I've had the same thing happened on my back like that. I hit the back the reef, lift my back and have a big cut and they sorta shut it and then it got infected inside and you had to reopen it and stuff like that was pretty, pretty bad zone. Whenever you have cuts like that, you almost have to heal from the inside out. Yeah. Otherwise it's and so you got the C bacteria. Yeah. It's gnarly, but anyways, let's not talk about that anymore. It's pretty good. Yeah, we got viewers tuning out. Get nosy. Yeah, maybe we can but yeah let's talk about wind fighting. Cause that's what my show is really supposed to be about wait, it goes into some wing foiling there after the doctor clips. Oh yeah. Let's play this one here. We get on West Molly last night. It's a good one. But yeah. So how long have you been waiting for now? I could look back at my journals and probably get an exact date, but  want to say. It was 2018 where I first got to try one with Alan kudus and Pete Cabrina at Kanawha or out wind surfing. And I saw them using a prototype Cabrina one. And I remember thinking, I, I saw it around cause Kai had his videos folk now with one of his wings on the early on. And this was around that same time. And. I remember talking to uncle Alan and uncle  I can I sample, I can sample uncle and they both looked at me with the most concerned look and they're like you don't have one of these yet. And I'm like, no, I don't have one of those things yet. Like what I try and they're like, God, this is the only one we have, like in all of Hawaii besides the one I had. Yeah, but just don't do anything crazy on it. And I'm like, okay. And and they were all pissed, because I got up on the thing and right away, just boom, just, I was up and riding and doing planning, jibes and tax. And I came in, Oh, that's pretty fun. They explode Mitch. And they're just all pissed. Like you just came in and out and we've been trying to do this for weeks and you and I met, I even threw a backflip on my first run out. And I, I remember thinking,  just from all my wind surf experience right away. And of course with the foil experience too, it was easy to put it together. I got up and ride. I'm like, okay, this is cool. What else can I do? Let's just roll the emotion of a bathroom. And I remember thinking like, Oh there's some potential in this for some pretty fun stuff. And , I very clearly remember sitting down that night and writing an email to to Stan and saying, Hey, Spann, I know you've been a little skeptical, wondering if this wing thing is going to be a trend, but  think this thing's going to stick around. I think it's pretty functional, and sure enough, here we are What two years later, three years later, I don't know what it was winging is taking over the community and in Maui at least, I mean on Maui everyone's winging. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. They call it the wind surfing crowd, but also the. Circle the prone surfers, I got into foiling and now they want to win foil. So it's almost like a bigger community than stand up paddling or wind surfing was that it seems like, yeah, just what's in many ways, it's bringing everyone together, which is cool. It's bringing everyone into one community, which it should be. It should be the ocean community,  and that's why I've really loved my experience with wing. Foiling is. Just like you said,  we're the real popular spa on Mallory right now is called Hulu Harbor. Now that's also one of the more popular spots for canoe paddling. It's also one of the more popular spots for foil surfing over at the break. And so now you have all these different communities merging together and everyone's getting a little taste for the wing stuff itself and yeah, so it's really cool to be able to also, I think the most unique thing though, is seeing surfers shortboard surfers, cause to me, a lot of my friends who shortboard surf are the most closed minded when it comes to being multi-faceted with multiple sports on the water they just don't care to do anything else. They just want to serve for you. If it's not good enough throughout the board, they don't want you to do with it.  And now I have friends who are like totally transitioned into foiling and wing riding, where it's hard for them to even get on their shortboard anymore because they just have so much more fun and feel that sense of freedom that we get to feel. And I, I don't think surfers truly understand that sense of freedom that a wind sport has. But it's, a lot of surfers has had the opportunity to get into. Hydrofoil surfing. Now, hydrofoil surfing is a good stepping stone into downwind riding. And then once you get into downwind foiling, you're like this you're tea, you're getting a taste of what that freedom is like. But as soon as you put a sail on your hand or a kite in your hand or a wing in your hand, You could just explore anywhere you want. It's a real special activity too, that really taps into the freedom of accessing all these different places on the water and being able to just explore up and down the coastline. So Zen, obviously in this video, you're doing like three sixties. You're practicing, like doing them over and over trying to get them done. So can you run us through kind of step-by-step what exactly what you're doing and like your hand placement and so on. Just give us like a step-by-step run on. Yeah, totally. And if anybody's interested for some more of this step-by-step stuff, I have a zero to hero wing boarding tutorial on On, I believe it's a free wing YouTube channel. We have seven episodes currently including a three 60 deep, really breaking it down. Should we take a look at that one? Okay. Probably better. So as I'm talking and get a better visual. But yeah, I've also, since COVID opened up my coaching and mentorship online to virtual classes, and so I started up the water sports division on belays coaching to IO real popular soccer coaching platform online. And we did we did a partnership with them to do foiling surfing and stand-up paddle. And so that's been a lot of fun too. People have been sending me a lot of foiling and wing clips lately, and it's a lot of fun to be able to break down these different maneuvers and help people from home, improve improve their confidence on the water with the foil or with the wing. Yeah, no, you've always been really into coaching and analyzing the technique. Yeah, I think that's something I really like about your videos to you're trying to break it down and make it easy to understand, but actually it's about tax and jive, so that's probably a little bit more applicable. But yeah. Like for more, a little bit more entry level stuff. Yeah. So one, one of the biggest things that people I think are asking me about are inquiring about on my social media channels and as well through my coaching is how to better their jobs and tax. With switched with switching stance. A lot of people coming from a surf or up paddle background aren't as familiar switching their feet with each turnaround as say a wind surfer or a caterer, it might be. So what I found to be a really easy breakdown of the jive is to be able to first do a little edge up wind. Don't just get lost going downwind because then you lose power in your sale. And so what I, what are your wing? Excuse me, before you turn downwind for your jive, do a little edge up when it's like to have power in the wing, or just make sure you have power in your wing, and then you could actually follow through and lead through your turn. Do a nice turn, holding the wing up above your head. And once your nose is pointing straight down wind, you can let go of your backhand and then start to transition your backhand to your front hand and your front to the back. And that's the point where then I'll start to do a little pump with the board up and down. And I switched my feet with the up and down motion. I found it to be a lot easier to. Go through that little quick motion of changing your feet from regular to goofy, or regular motion with that up and down pump with that rollercoaster motion, as opposed to just trying to go straight, stay still and then jump into position, and so that's something to really keep in mind that a lot of my students have found to be super helpful is both do your turnaround first with the wing. Once you switch your hands, your cross stance. Then you could go up and down with the little pumping motion, little roller coaster. And then on your, before you start driving down from a higher altitude, you could slide your slide your back foot to the middle position and do that quick transition from from your back foot to your front foot. And of course everyone's weight distribution and pivot points is going to be a little different according to their board and their foil. And it really just takes time getting that confidence and the quick shuffle. But remember that the wing is going to allow us to have the S the ability to do that shuffle, and also the slight engagement of the foil up and down. And so give  your foil something to do with that up and down motion before you go into that switch, and also make sure you have a little bit of power holding your weight up. So you do a little wait lists of footwork. Now one of the best exercises to practice this kind of stuff. I think for cross spore is his longboard surfing,  doing your cross, cross stepping and stuff like that. Also even just walking a curb in the parking lot before you go out, walk the curb and cross step your fee and maybe practice doing some quick changes with light footwork from one stance to the next. And Yeah, for the most part it's repetition. Even for me coming in from a windsurf background, it took me a little bit of time to really dial in getting comfortable and, still to this day there's certain situations where I'll choose to stay in my goofy foot stance. What I mean, especially when you haven't really, the smart board is actually, it's pretty hard to switch stands on. Yeah. You just don't have weapons room for two foot straps and stuff in the front to it. So you're on a wall and most guys that ride in shorter boards, they just don't switch their stance. But, and then another helpful tip is to when you do switch stance at the beginning, it's good to just. After the jive just dropped on the water, switch your feet and then come back up on the foil again. That makes a lot easier, until you're comfortable moving your feet around while you're up on the foil. Yeah, totally. You could bring the board back down to the water and have that extra stability for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Those are good tips. What about these jumps? Any, can you break those down? Yeah.  No for a little bit there. I was like starting to get a little bit I'm bored with the three 60 and this donkey kick. Cause it was like like everyone was doing it and it seemed like it was one of the only tricks you could do. And sure enough, that, that motivated me and I'm sure a lot of other people that try and get creative doing other things But these three sixties definitely gave me a lot of excitement in between that transition, cause the donkey kicks are probably the first maneuver I worked on and really dialed the three sixties, both front side and backside both into the wind and downwind were really fun. Variations of maneuvers to work on. And so I'd say the easiest variation of the three 60 is the downwind rotation in your normal stance. So not S not switch, not on your backside, just going out with in your natural stats are going in. If your natural stance is going in holding the wing doing a nice edge into the wind. Okay. And then a slight poll on the backhand as you kick your back foot out behind you and rotating downwind. And that one is a really fun variation, but what helps is to the quicker you transfer your hands. And as soon as you, you get off the water with a slight edge into the wind. Then you could give a little poll with your backhand, but it's more so just kicking out that back foot and almost doing like that one 80 motion with the the foil board. Once you let go of your back hand, that's, what's going to really light up your rotation. And so if you want to slow down your rotation, like in that one right there, I held on to the last moment to keep my rotation steady. And I'll have a change of pace, but if you want us to really speed it up, let go of that back hand, switch your hands and you get that quick rotation. Yeah. Now once you do come down, you've got to switch your hands really quick. Now this was actually a. Different from what I was explaining the X thousand, a backside one, but that's a good example. There's four different variations of three, six. These you could do your natural stance, your switch stance. And then you could also do it with a downwind rotation or an up window occasion. Have you tried the ones with the up? I've been trying to do the ones with the Uplander rotation, but keeping the sail keeping the wing and just spinning the wind when the wind have you tried those. It's so funny. Every time it looks like that every time I want to do one of those, like three sixties without into the wind without letting go, I ended up doing a backflip or like some sort of a sideways backflip. And it's funny because I have wing riders. Ah, shoot. I'm spacing his name. One of one of the last, so there's that wing event in Brazil? I think the guy got sec, second place. Oh yeah. Paul's Miller, right? Who got first place? Paul Mueller. Oh, and then what's his name? A younger kid. Yeah. I'm from new Caledonia. Tetouan yeah.  Teton. So Tiguan. Actually messaged me and he was like, dude, how in the heck are you doing your back? Flips like that, like more like straight up and down. And I responded back to him, dude. How in the heck are you doing you're sideways spinners? Yeah, it's just, our unique style is more I'm I more naturally can throw the top to bottom.  More like up and down type of flip, but I have a harder time with that more horizontal spinner.  seem to have the opposite where he maybe has a, some sort of a block for the straight up and down, back flip, but can do the sideways back flip slash three 60. And so I've been actually playing around with it quite a bit and still haven't. Felt super comfortable with that maneuver. But I do feel like the backflips are keeping me real busy. The other day I came pretty close to landing a double back. Oh no, maybe walk us through the back slope. Yeah, like what's I see it's almost like you're doing a windsurfing backs will be look for a steep ramp and you just throw yourself back, but can you break it down step by step a little bit? That's something I've been wanting to try. This is the backup.  As a windsurfer and for the Winster viewers that are listening you can relate to this Robert, approaching a lip or a wave for a back loop and a friend, a push loop is a little different, right? So I was making the mistake early on with my back flips of going too far into the wind. And there's a certain point where just the wing would be like awesome all up against my body. And then it's hard to bring the wing back in a position where it's getting powered up. And so then I started approaching it more like a push loop where actually just before you hit the wave, Go at a straight reach, maybe even a little bit on a downwind reach. And so just slightly downwind into the wave so that you could actually have the power in the wings throughout the rotation or throughout the majority of the rotation. And so you could see right there, there's a moment where  the back wind the wing like a push loop. But I'd say it's easier to do this with a little bit of download, as opposed to a little bit of upwind. And so right there, slight back wind. And then what you'd want to do is not have it get stuck in that back winded position. You want to be able to whip it right back up and over your head. So the more you could have the wing powered up throughout the rotation, the more smooth it's going to be. Okay. So you're saying go a little bit upwind more yeah I guess like a push loop, but then, do you think about throwing your head back? Like just trying to take, so I'm a takeoff. Totally. Yeah. So I take off point your point downwind slightly. And I like to think of it more so with the,  you angle the wing from pointing forward, like it is now to all of a sudden you just drive your upper pant your forward hand up your bottom hand around, and you're looking over  your front over your shoulder, behind your head and really throwing the wing like this, like whoop. Back towards the beach, you load up the power. So then you point it straight up in the air and then  your hands continue that momentum behind you. Now, all of a sudden you're swinging the wing behind you as your body's arched. And then from there you just got to, you time the arch, depending on how big your jump is. You arch more. If it's a big jump. And you are less than tuck. If it's a small jump for me, I have a lot more fun throwing it off of waves because I could get way higher and I could just have more fun with the arch and play with it a bit more. But the Flatwater ones you really have to spin them quit. You want to like it's all with the flat water ones. It's more of that slicing rotation. Like you go full speed. And you slice your foil slightly up Rand, a little bit. You hit that chop and immediately you're just throwing your feet up into the air. As your wing is getting powered up to the sky and pulling and throwing behind you. And with the Flatwater ones, I think it's really important to pull that front hand, pull that front hand in. And back when the wing sooner, rather than later. So you could  fold the, fold the flip as opposed to the smooth roll. Yeah. Cool. Thanks for that breakdown. Let's talk a little bit about here and stuff like, so what.  What have you learned about, the foil gear, the wings and all that kind of stuff?  Any, anything you can share on that? Just all top secret stuff. Not, yeah.  Try and ride whatever I can,  I'll try and give tests, test rides on all the gear, because I think. I think there's a lot of concepts floating around, but everyone's doing the same thing,  or at least in the past, it's been like that everyone was making the same type of thing type of design. Now you have people getting a little more out of the box. It's in a little more risky with the designs and concepts. And so testing gear right now is more exciting than ever. I of course work close with star board and AK durable supply coast. So the most majority of my sessions, I'm riding the star board foils or the AK foils. I've found that I've just wanting to go smaller and smaller. That's one of the biggest things that I've noticed with a lot of my wing riding lately is Anything with the wing in my hands, I'm probably going to be using a 1300, a thousand or an 800 on now. And so quite small wings, as opposed to what you might be riding in the waves. My most used wings Wing size for the actual LinkedIn. The inflatable wing is a four meter and a five meter. Believe it or not. Especially because I like a smaller hydrofoil wing. I sometimes prefer to have that little extra power to get me up and going. But of course on now you get away the three meter a lot. And those days where you do have the three meter wholly could really just feel so lively to be able to do some quick rotations and flips and things like that. But there's something about the four meter and the five meter that just flows. If you just want to fly high and. And flow.  Usually end up going one bigger than I want. Yeah, easy for beginners.  We usually recommend going with the bigger foil just because it makes it easier to come up out of the water and it's more stable and you can fly under then, yeah. The smaller foils are just once we get on a wave this cause the big foils. They're just not fast enough to keep up with the bigger ways or faster moving ways. And then for attorney to inquire that you do get that just the small nor the veteran really almost right. Yeah. Yeah. Th the idea is, the bigger, the more lift, the smaller, the less lift now with less surface area and a smaller wing, you also have the opportunity to go faster.  Would say if you're learning, you want to go on something around 1600 to maybe even 2000, if you're a bigger guy. Most of my lessons that I teach I'm at our foil school here on Maui. Cause we've been teaching hydrofoil as one of our primary activities, our surf school It's, most of our lessons are getting guys out for their first time on a 1600 behind the boat or a jet ski. And there seems to be a pretty comfortable size to not be moving too fast but have nice slow speed lift and control. But as you start getting better one of the things that you're going to start to notice maybe before speed, is that ability to roll into your turns. And so as a intermediate or beginner rider, you might not want to be rolling into turn so much. You want to do more flat pivotal turns where you're keeping the board flat, and you're just doing these direction changes, keeping the board flat, but. As you start to get better at it, you can have a little bit more opportunity for maneuvers, by leading into enrolling into your turns, the wider, your span is on your wings. The harder it is to roll into turns. And so that's one of the biggest reasons why I've really wanted to go smaller with wing riding. Because a lot of the time you're edging, right before going into the air for a big jump and a flip I'm edging into the wind for that last little bite of power. Or edging downwind, a little bit to release power. And so being able to have that little extra control of edging into the wind or Dowling turning side to side is important because as soon as the tip of the wing, Breaks the surface, if you're rolling over and you have a wide wingspan, th it's you're not going to be able to lean over as much before that wing hits the water and breaks the surface and then gets X-rated and you lose you lose all your all your lifts because air gets under the wing. And yeah, I think if you're working for more performance stuff, think about the width of your wing. Not necessarily just the size. Yeah. That's why I also like the super high aspect. Wings are not necessarily that easy to arrive because yeah, when you turn it, when you try to turn them, they breach more easily because they're so wide and I have such a wide wingspan and they don't have occurred. So having a lower aspect, sometimes in the ways it's actually easier to use a narrower phone. That's not as wide. But as I'm sure you're starting to see in your, local foil spots, it's, there's different types of foils. You have some people who are just really into pumping. Some people who are, who could care less about pumping and they just want to get their terms to be a little more critical and just make it look more like a shortboard maneuver, and then you get other guys who really want that. Just smooth ride and be able to not really turn too much, but just feel like their Cadillac, they're just cruising, and so depending on what style you want to achieve it's going to determine  your gear, and so if you like to pump around and you like to connect waves and you want to just stay up and riding, then Hey, a high aspect. Foil 13 to 1600 is probably going to be really nice. You might really like just pumping around catching plenty waves, but if you want to do start to do break the tip and do really nice snappy turns and really sharp radius turns, then maybe a more medium aspect, low aspects, foil. It's going to help for those sharper turns. So you were saying you do beginner lessons for foiling and stuff.  Maybe, can you talk a little bit about the most common mistakes people make and like sweet. Get some financing, just beginners, I guess the very beginning four-lane tips. Like what? Cause sometimes once you get more advanced, it's harder to think about  The challenges of learning. Yeah. Yeah, totally. One of the, one of the biggest things that I think helps for the student is to start with a clean slate, try to approach this sport humbly and almost forget about your previous board riding knowledge, because our surf knowledge, if we stick to it could hinder us. I also recommend doing some sort of mentorship or lesson if possible, because you, I've seen a lot of people who are very talented athletes, just beat themself up and spend more money than they need to both on gear and maybe even medical bills. There's a, there's an appropriate way to do this. And I, I tell you what. It's learning behind the boat or jet ski with a coach and in a controlled environment with the appropriate learning gear.  If you're a first time rider, you buy a kite surf foil on Craigslist and you Mount it to your short board and you try to go paddle around. I tell you what you're gonna have a hard time. So if you can. Get behind a boat or jet ski and start off with very little movements, keep your body and the majority of your weight over your your front foot, which is counter intuitive from other board sport. And also keep your center of gravity straight over that for oil or. More so you could think standing upright, which is also counter-intuitive from surfing. A lot of times surfing, we want to get really low and sometimes our butt and our chest has a tendency to get over the water foiling. We really want to try and bring our way over the foil. And so in the beginning, I'm always reminding my students, your center line, make sure your feet are completely along the stringer or the center of the board. Make sure you're starting off with the majority of your way over your front foot to keep the board on the water, make a goal of keeping the board on the water before you get into flight. And then from there you from control on the water, you could slowly distribute your way back towards your back foot and slowly achieve lift. Now, one of the biggest things that's going to help with the smooth transition here is to immediately shift forward again, because achieving lift is so much more easy than controlled landing. So as soon as you start to feel like you have control of the board on the water, your body over your front foot, then check your posture, stand up or rack. Keep  your body more upright and control that weight distribution back towards your back foot. And as soon as you feel that lift shift forward again, nice and smooth and bring the board back down because that transition. From nose up to nose down, lift to land is what's going to give us all of our control. It's that transition up to down, that transition from water flowing on the bottom side of the wing to the top side of the wind. So as soon as you feel that lifts shift forward again, and then you can take it slowly from there a little higher and shift forward, bring it back down. A little higher shift forward. And instead of bringing it down, just neutral, level it out, you're not going higher. You're not going lower. You're just have it level. You're focusing on your eyes and your breath your eyes focusing out in front of you, and also focusing on your breath, minimizing your movements, because the best thing you can do, especially if we're talking controlled speed behind the boat, holding the rope. Is keep your movements minimal and control your weight distribution from the front to the back and back to front. Do you have people like when they are being on the boat yard to all try to get out of the week or do you have straight behind the boat? Oh, totally. Yeah. I think you'll feel real quick. Those bubbles from the weight and this these. You want to immediately get out of the bubbles and out of the weight in order to feel a little bit of control and feel that smooth sensation of foil moving through water,  relate it to an airplane. Would you rather be flying on an airplane it's her the whole time, or would you rather be flying and smooth air? No, it's the same thing. If you want controlled flight, then try and find smooth water outside of the turbulence from the engine. All right. Yeah, it was this really good point. It's going to begin here. I appreciate you for sharing so much love to my YouTube channel, Robert. Yeah, I got it. That's the whole idea of play some videos while you're talking. So talk a little bit about like on Instagram you were showing some I had some footage of you when filing a jaws, getting  guess you were actually let go of the wing and then the assertive without the wing. Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, totally. So that was really exciting. I was a little under prepared as far as my equipment goes, because I only had My smallest wings I could get my hands on from AK was an 800 square centimeter. And this is something that I pump around on and surf with in shoulder high waves, but it was the smallest thing I had. So I decided I would build my experience out at payoff, then see how it works. And so I was out on my normal setup that we saw there in that video for eight. A four eight board with an 800 square centimeter foil. And I didn't have a jet ski year or a budget to pay for a team. And so I went out there thinking, Hey if it's a tow day and or if it's windy, I'm not going to miss on the action. I'm just a pump up my, and go wing into some waves and have some fun. And I was just thinking of it as like a way to stay out there and have fun, right. Accessibility opportunity. And and yeah, I ended up having a lot of fun, getting into some waves with the wing, and that was the first day anyone's ever taken a wing out at out at Paoli. And it was not as functional as I thought with that foil though. And the wing itself, because I couldn't get going fast enough with the speed of that wave. I kept feeling the sensation that I was stuck at the top of the wave or at the middle of the wave using my wing. And eventually with, because what happens? The wave moves so fast and it hits the Tradewinds to the point where the wind is literally going straight up. It hits the wave and it just creates a parent lift going straight up. And so as I'm dropping in, down into the wave, the force of the apparent wind against my inflatable wing is more. And so I want to drop in, but it's actually lifting me out the back. And so I thought. I'm just going to ditch my wing. I took, I went back to the channel. I took my leash off of my wing. I I  gave a little heads up to one of the jet ski drivers and I was like, Hey, I might let go on my wing. Can you get it? And he's okay. And so I went into the wave and I, right as the apparent wind started to catch me and lift me up, I let go of my wing and was able to just continue riding the wave with my hydrofoil. But, even then I realized it's not just my wing, that's slowing me down. It's actually my hydrofoil too. I mean my 800 Senan square centimeter hydrofoil, I felt like I was completely maxing the thing out, just leaning so far forward, trying to keep the thing controlled and Yeah, I still, I couldn't quite go as deep as I want it to or get as critical. I really ride how I wanted to, but regardless I got to build experience foiling out at  and I got to learn a lot about what kind of equipment might work and what isn't going to work out there. And no, after talking with Kai, he was like, dude, you're crazy. I can't believe you're out there with that foil. And I'm like, what do you mean? And he's I would never ride anything like this size on anything bigger than like a 300. And I'm like Oh shoot. Okay. 300, 400 good. That's a hell of a lot smaller than 800, I was happy to be able to pull off what I could with what I have, I don't have the big budget to make custom wings or a big budget to have water safety and jet ski teams. But I got to have so much fun that day with the self assist, with the wing and riding with foil. And it was a good day for it. So it wasn't super crowded. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm waiting for my big wave foil though. I told star board and AK I'm like, dude, I need a foil to push start building more experience in big surf because I'm comfortable in big waves. I really want to push the limits. I just need something that will allow me to handle that speed. And in that force, I'm sure. A few days after that, I think Kailani was writing. Even postseason a video of him, like getting these errors on the off the face of the wave and like floating down the face of the closet. Yeah. And that was actually just with a normal toe board. Yeah. He's pulled into those ways, right? Yeah. So that was, I wanna say The end of Jan. I don't quite remember when he did that, but the day that I went out was January 3rd and sixth with the win-win. And later Kailani went out. I want to see later in January and he got surf his toe team pulled him with with the tow rope on the jet ski and one hand with the wing and then got into it on his toe board. No foil. And then as soon as he grabbed on to the wing, it was pretty much fly time because that apparent window I was telling you about. And there's definitely something to be said about opportunities for just no foil on a toe board, having fun with that apparent lift. And if you're a, if you're a hang glider then, you look for those locations where you have that apparent lift to give you that nice long flight when you when you slide off now, this essentially the same thing, except the mountain is moving into the wind. And so honestly, I can't wait to try that. That looks so fricking fun. What you guys did with the with the tow board and the wing. I'm really excited to give that a go. It's pretty inside. It's a little hesitate temp for me though. I'm as I'm goofy footed. And so as soon as I got get off the water in that situation with my body, lower body, all twisted my upper body, my lower body wants to start doing a three 60. And so it's but I'm going to get, I'm going to find someone to tow me in like that and give that a go once. Once my injury heals up, for sure. Yeah, it's amazing. He gets so much float out of that. Like this fund here a lot of brands go straight up the face. So it's like this floating in the air. It's so cool. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. If he sees an, if you see, tell him, I'm interested in talking to him about that too. Charlie, let's just talk a little bit about, advice, life nutrition what you do to. Hey saying during the pandemic and stuff had gotten any advice for people? I know I, during the pandemic, I went to know so many people are struggling with loneliness or addiction and things like that. Depressed,  any lifestyle or any tips on living, living your best life,  as Robert, we're very fortunate with our location here through this pandemic. But we still have experienced, a taste of the law, the lockdown and business closures, and,  it was a pretty crazy time even on Maui. I'm not sure what it was like on a wall, but it was wild and I'm very grateful that I was able to be home through this because there is a A short time there where I was stuck in Indonesia through February. And all of a sudden borders were closing. Airlines are shutting down and I couldn't get home, no matter how much money I had, I couldn't get home. And it was scary at that point, but luckily, we were able to find a flight home and I made it back. And so I started off this pandemic with a good attitude because. I was facing the reality that I might be in a foreign country without my family through this really uncertain times. Early February when I started, when literally all of Bali shut down and my contest dollars there for canceled, all of a sudden, I tried to get flights home. You couldn't even get connected with the airlines. They've busy slides shut down too busy. And so it was. For me to get home and be with my family. It was like a sigh of relief. But then I started realizing this is actually real serious. Like I started losing a lot of my sponsorship funding. Our business shut down. Our surf school had to legally shut down. Our All pretty much all our whole community had to stay inside for a certain time. And  started to feel like, Whoa, this is our whole lives may change. And I didn't want to let that consume me too much. And so I I tried to stay as busy as I could, however I could, whether it was, Keeping up with home workouts while at home, I'm doing pushups and pull ups and sit ups and rebuilding my website and catching up on emails and all that computer work that I always put aside because I'm having too much fun in the water. That first month was like a lot of catch up. I was able to catch up on stuff and then the second month came and I'm like, Oh, this is still happening. And, Still not making money for anything, not are any of our businesses are sponsors. And so I started to realize, I need to get creative, making some money. And I started offering online coaching through since we couldn't do coaching at our school, I started doing online coaching and I S I got a lot of people doing wings, full and foil video submissions for personal coaching. And that kept me pretty occupied for a bit. One of my big goals that's been lately, keeping me really motivated is starting my foundation. I mentioned earlier, I have had an unofficial not-for-profit for over 12 years called the insane super gums. And now we've we've decided to go all out and get our five Oh one C3 and. Get us in a position where we could do more for the kids in our community. And so our mission at  is to inspire the KCI, to choose healthy, active lifestyles that uplift our community and environment through mentorship and sport. And and we try to get kids stoked on surfing or paddling and boiling and in return inspire them to be ocean guardians themselves and care for. This natural environment that, that brings so much opportunity into our lives. And we offer scholarships and equipment. And and so now that I actually have this five Oh one C3 filed and we got our website going and it's the last thing too. If someone wants to donate, where do they go? They could go to  dot com and that's K a H a. K U K H i.com or they could reach out to me through any of my social media and I'll share the info. Our website is not public yet. We're still working on launching and we should have our five Oh one C3 paperwork within the following month. So we're, so my wife and I are really excited about that. Because now it'll give us a chance to  maybe even. Get more kids that we want involved in these programs because in the past, we weren't legally allowed to pick up people. They had to already have rides. Now that we have a foundation, we could actually pick up at risk kids, underprivileged kids, alternatively abled kids, and be able to physically take them to the beach and and get them set up with scholarships for equipment, for mentorship. For education and science based programs and a hundred percent with the goal to give these kids passion on the water and a reason to to be guardians of our community and environment. And  that's been keeping me so excited lately and, especially with this now I'm, can't be in the water at all. It's been really fun. But for everyone out there who is on more serious lockdown, I have friends out in the Philippines and all over Asia, we're still it's serious lockdown. And the best thing we can do in these times  is true and keep our mental and our physical fitness up, and our mental and physical health is so important. And so it's too easy to get caught up, looking at Facebook or YouTube or Netflix all day. If you're locked up in your home, give, make a goal, give yourself one hour, start with just one hour to yourself, whether it's trying to do some stretching, some breathing, a little bit of physical fitness and exercise. Even if you have a tiny little studio apartment, maybe that means just doing some Wim, Hof breathing, maybe that means doing some push-ups and pull-ups maybe that means doing some journaling,  and getting familiar with a daily routine that you could have. That's all, distractions, because I think even for myself it's so easy to just wake up and. Get sidetracked in work or in social media or brand caught up with the overwhelming, whatever you have going on in life. And I noticed that if I don't give myself that time, which is usually best in the morning for me, first thing, just give myself that time to, to know how I feel, to know what I want to know. If it helps me throughout my day. Yeah. Sorry then to drift down do you have a routine things that you do every morning? Like a certain routine that every morning do for care? Exactly. Like what you do after you get up? I love to drink tea. So tea is a good routine for me. I'll wake up, I'll get some tea going. I like to do my morning journaling. My morning journaling consists of a meditation. That's instilled it. It starts off with writing down three things you're grateful for. And and this was a practice. My grandmother left with me.  She told me that grab at with the attitude of gratitude. You'll never have an excuse to be unhappy when you're grateful. You'll always have something to be happy for. And so through these times, I think it's more important than ever to stick to my journaling routine. And I've kept up to this over the last 10 years, almost to the day, no matter where I am in the world. And so I try and I'm keeping to that, my morning journaling starts with gratitude and then it starts with three things that I could do to make today. Great. Three things that would make my day feel proactive or feel. Feel successful. And first thing in the morning I'll sit there and it might even take me 10 minutes to really think what do I want to accomplish today? According to how I feel, according to my current state of mind and my wellbeing what do I want to do today? And just those three little sentences that I write down that determines every choice I make for the rest of the day. Then if I met with the choice. To watch a Netflix show or to work on my website because I did that little journaling in the morning. I'm not going to get sidetracked and procrastinate. I'm going to get straight to one step closer to my day, being successful to my day, being one step more amazing. And then I'll also finish it with A daily affirmation on a community a community goal, which I call a blue life choice. And Robert, if you've been following me over the year, as you've probably seen this hashtag I've been sharing,  live a deep blue life deep hashtag deep blue life, hashtag blue life choices, hashtag embrace the power of choi

SHOW NOTES Neil Lawson's gap year in ‪1985-86‬ was looking uncertain when most of his school friends had flown to Austraila to party and explore. Not one to follow the crowd, Neil and Tim hatched a plan to Hitchhike the Sahara Dessert from Tetouan in morrorco to Cotonou in Benin . At just 18 years old a serious undertaking and adventure. 30 years on after returning from a bike ride clad in lycra his son now approaching 18 himself accused him of being a mammal [middle aged man dress in lycra]. To counter this and prove age has no boundaries to where and how you can adventure, he chose the Gobi dessert in Mongolia to cycle in, and just to make it outstanding they dressed as a gentleman in tweed.   To round off the adventure adventure, Neil met up with Tim in Shanghai whom he had not seen since they hitched across the Sahara some 30 years earlier. neil lawson has adventured https://tweedgt.wordpress.com/

I am thrilled to have the New York based artist, Eric Hibit on the show! I have been following Eric's work for years and am excited to connect with him on the show and talk about his work. Eric Hibit (born Rochester, NY) is a visual artist based in New York City. He attended the Corcoran College of Art + Design (BFA,1998) and Yale University School of Art (MFA, 2003). In New York, he has exhibited at Max Protetch Gallery, Anna Kustera Gallery, C24 Gallery, Zurcher Studio, Field Projects, Tiger Strikes Asteroid, Underdonk Gallery, Ortega y Gasset Projects, Deanna Evans Projects, Morgan Lehman Gallery, NonFinito Gallery, and One River School of Art + Design. He has exhibited nationally at Adds Donna in Chicago, Curator’s Office in Washington, DC, Geoffrey Young Gallery in Great Barrington, MA, The Cape Cod Museum of Art, Satellite Contemporary in Las Vegas, NV, The University of Vermont, Bedford Gallery in Walnut Creek, CA and internationally in France and Norway. His work has been covered by the Washington Post, The Village Voice, Hyperallergic, Newsweek, New York Times and New York Post.   Hibit has taught studio art at Tyler School of Art, Hunter College, NYU, The Cooper Union, Suffolk County Community College and The 92nd Street Young Men’s and Young Women’s Hebrew Association. Artist residencies include Terra Foundation in Giverny, France (2003), UNILEVER Residency in New York (2015), and Kingsbrae International Residency for the Arts (2019) and Green Olives Arts in Tetouan, Morocco (2019). Publications include Dear Hollywood Writers, with poet Geoffrey Young (Suzy Solidor Editions, 2017) and Paintings and Fables with Wayne Koestenbaum, a limited edition artist’s book (2017). He is currently Co-Director of Ortega y Gasset Projects, an artist-run gallery based in Brooklyn, where he has curated three group exhibitions since 2014.   We cover so many wonderful topics such as how Eric builds the images in his work, studio space, pleasure in viewing, Morocco and his residency there, and supporting the arts community.   RESOURCES: I Like Your Work Podcast Studio Planner Instagram Submit Work Online Exhibition-Drowned Neon Rose Observations on Applying to Juried Shows   https://www.erichibit.com/ https://www.instagram.com/erichibit/ Lari Pittman https://www.oygprojects.com/  

Foi uma blog trip que me levou ao norte de Marrocos e, em 4 dias, conheci Fez, Chefchaouen, Tetouan e Tânger. Neste Notas de Viagem vão conhecer os locais que não podem perder, dicas a seguir e todo o feeling das terras marroquinas. Se gostarem do podcast (como tenho a certeza que vão gostar), podem sempre encontrar mais informação sobre Marrocos em https://marleneonthemove.com/pt/?s=marrocos . Sigam também o Notas de Viagem para não perderem um episódio!

Houda Rahmani is a Moroccan artist, illustrator, graphic designer, and photographer. She studied fine art at Institut National de Beaux Arts in Tetouan and later completed a masters program in cinema. Her work has won numerous awards and has been commissioned by local businesses in Tangier, where she is based. She has experience in a wide variety of mediums, exploring and playing with what art-making means to her. She is currently pursuing a PhD in fine art, working on personal projects, and teaches graphic design at a local university. Houda’s work is both delicate and powerful, as are her thoughts and ideas about art and it’s importance to her personally and to the wider world.~SHOW NOTES-Houda’s instagram and portfolio-Oud Studio instagram (her personal design studio)-An example of gnawa music-Kabaret Chikhats (and a french article about them here)-Design Matters by Debbie Millman, and the Ten-Year Plan~THANK YOU FOR LISTENINGSubscribe & leave a review on iTunesHave any questions, comments or guest recommendations? Email me hereLET’S CONNECT:Follow the Process Piece instagramRuby’s instagram

Mohammed Tozy a étudié la correspondance des sultans marocains du 19ème. Il nous explique les modes de gouvernance de l’Etat marocain de cette période, exemples à l'appui.(Podcast en deux parties)Produit avec le soutien de Maroc Telecom

En 1873, à Fes, les tanneurs se révoltent et réclament plus de justice fiscale. Un mouvement social qui tranche avec les formes de protestation traditionnelles, et qui se déclenche au moment ou le Maroc fait face aux appétits européens. Ce podcast est un voyage dans le 19ème siècle marocain, raconté par l’historien Mustapha Bouaziz.Produit avec le soutien de Maroc Telecom.

This podcast featuring American doctoral candidate in the department of Arabic and Islamic Studies at Georgetown University Anny Gaul and TALIM resident Director John Davison was recorded in October 24, 2018. The historical record suggests that during the early modern period, culinary cultures in Egypt and Morocco had far more in common than not. But in the nineteenth century, the way Egyptians and Moroccans ate began to transform. As a result, by the 1950s, the new urban middle classes were developing culinary styles that could be considered ‘national’ for the first time. Today, Egyptian and Moroccan food cultures have little in common. Anny Gaul's research uses ‘cuisine’ (understood as both a cooking style and a cooking space) as a new framework for understanding the emergence of modern national identities in North Africa. Using sources that include novels, memoirs, cookbooks, state archives, and ethnographic data, the project traces the history of North African food cultures from the colonial period through the early decades of political independence. In this interview, Anny discusses what she learned about the cuisine of the city of Tetouan and her methodological strategies for studying the kitchen, which she describes as being "both everywhere and nowhere" in the archive. Anny Gaul is a doctoral candidate in the department of Arabic and Islamic Studies at Georgetown University. She holds an MA from Georgetown's Center for Contemporary Arab Studies and blogs at http://cookingwithgaul.com. Her research has been supported by the Council of American Overseas Research Centers, the American Institute for Maghrib Studies, and the Social Science Research Council. You can also find her on Instagram and Twitter. Bibliography and further reading below; attaching a photo of rafisa as well as a photo of me shopping for used books. For recipes and more information on the dishes discussed in this interview see: "Chicken Rafisa," on Imik simik: Cooking with Gaul, September 17, 2012. "Seven Centuries of Bastila," on Imik simik: Cooking with Gaul, February 25, 2018. Further reading: Bennani-Smires, Latifa, La Cuisine marocaine (Casablanca: Editions Alpha, 1974) Calderwood, Eric, Colonial Al-Andalus: Spain and the Making of Modern Moroccan Culture (Cambridge, Massachusetts: The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, 2018) Gaul, Anny, "Cooking "Civilized" Sauces in Egypt and Morocco," Kitchening Modernity blog, January 23, 2018. Khatib, Toumader, "L'art culinaire ou le savant mélange des couleurs, des senteurs et des saveurs," in Tétouan: Capitale méditerranéenne, edited by M'hammad Benaboud, Tetouan: Publications de l'Association Tétouan Asmir. al-Minuni, Muhammad, "Dūdat al-ḥarīr wa-ṣināʿāt ukhrā bi-Tiṭwān al-qarn XIX," in Aʿmāl nadwat Tiṭwān qabl al-ḥimāya, 12-13-14, November 1992: 21-31. Seremetakis, C. Nadia, ed., The Senses Still: Perception and Memory as Material Culture in Modernity (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1994). Sutton, David E., “Food and the Senses,” Annual Review of Anthropology 39, no. 1 (September 23, 2010): 209–23, https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev.anthro.012809.104957. Rahuni, Fatima, Fann al-ṭabkh al-Maghribī al-Tiṭwānī al-aṣīl, 5th ed. (Tetouan, Morocco: Matbaʿa al-Khalij al-ʿArabi, 2014); Roden, Claudia, The New Book of Middle Eastern Food, Revised edition (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 2000)

Houa Maitre nageur fechamal, kay 7di lb7ar nhar koullou, ou men jiha lokhra, kayna Sbania, 9riba. Kay 3aoudlina 7yato, ou fiha l’kora, lb7ar, essolta l7ogra, ou l7rig.Production : @HamzaChioua,@RedaAllali Musique intro : Vicious Vision

Today we examine friendships and how important it is. We hear from Dr. Paul Heck, Professor of Islamic Studies at Georgetown University and director of SORAC (Study of Religions Across Civilizations), and Said Nacchi, a public school teacher from Rabat, Morocco to discuss how our education and friendship interweave.  Show Notes: Paul Heck has been a part of Georgetown's Department of Theology since 2004 and is the founder of SORAC (Study of Religions Across Civilizations). His interests include the role of religion - specifically Islam - in society, Sufism, political theology, and theo-humanism. Fluent in Arabic, Professor Heck is a Fulbright Fellow currently teaching in Tetouan, Morocco for the 2018-19 academic year. Sa'id Naqchi organizes the "Language through Companionship; Companionship Through Language" program in Sale, Morocco. The program provides students in low socioeconomic status the opportunity to create trans-Atlantic friendships with Americans while simultaneously practicing their English skills. During the summer of 2018, the program brought together students from five Moroccan schools at the International University of Rabat.

This series was recorded on April 12, 2018 at the Tangier American Institut of Moroccan Studies, as part of TALIM's annual April Seminar on the theme "Documenting the Cultural Heritage of Northern Morocco", which is organized in partnership with the Office Chérifien des Phosphates. In the first podcast, we welcome Dr. Mhammad Benaboud, Vice President of the Tetouan Asmir and the General Secretary of the Tetouan Asmir Club of Friends of UNESCO, presenting a lecture entitled "Documenting the Cultural Heritage of the North Moroccan Medinas : the Case of the Medina of Tetouan". In the second podcast, we welcome researcher and doctoral candidat Jordi Mas Garriga from the University Rovira i Virgili, presenting a lecture entitled "Towards valuing Tangier's Alawite heritage"

This series was recorded on April 12, 2018 at the Tangier American Legation Institute for Moroccan Studies, as part of TALIM’s annual April Seminar, organized annually in partnership with the Office Chérifien des Phosphates. This year’s seminar program was organized in collaboration with the Aga Khan Documentation Center at MIT (AKDC@MIT). In the first podcast, we welcome Dr. Mhammad Benaboud, Vice President of the Tetouan Asmir and the General Secretary of the Tetouan Asmir Club of Friends of UNESCO, presenting a lecture entitled "Documenting the Cultural Heritage of the North Moroccan Medinas : the Case of the Medina of Tetouan". In the second podcast, we welcome researcher and doctoral candidat Jordi Mas Garriga from the University Rovira i Virgili, presenting a lecture entitled "Towards valuing Tangier's Alawite heritage"

 Episode 42: Colonial Andalus    In this episode, Dr. Eric Calderwood, Assistant Professor of Comparative Literature at the Department of Comparative and World Literature, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign speaks about his recent book, Colonial al-Andalus: Spain and the Making of Modern Morocco (Harvard University Press, 2018). Dr. Calderwood offers an overview of his book, and reflects on how the time he has spent in Morocco (especially Tetouan) has shaped his research topic and his understanding of Moroccan history and literature. Grounded in nearly a decade of research in Spain and North Africa, Colonial al-Andalus explores the culture, politics, and legacies of Spanish colonialism in Morocco (1859-1956). It traces the genealogy of a widespread idea about Morocco: namely, the idea that modern Moroccan culture descends directly from al-Andalus. This idea is pervasive in contemporary Moroccan historiography, literature, and political discourse. Colonial al-Andalus argues that Morocco's Andalusi identity is not a medieval legacy, but is, instead, a modern invention that emerged from the colonial encounter between Spain and Morocco in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. In pursuit of this argument, the book examines a diverse array of Arabic, Spanish, French, and Catalan sources, including literature, historiography, journalism, political speeches, tourist brochures, and visual culture. Dr. Eric Calderwood is an Assistant Professor of Comparative Literature at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where he also holds faculty appointments in the Department of Spanish and Portuguese, the Center for South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies, the Program in Medieval Studies, the Unit for Criticism and Interpretive Theory, and the Program in Jewish Culture and Society. He received his Ph.D. from Harvard University in 2011. His research explores modern Mediterranean culture, with a particular emphasis on Spanish and North African literature and film. In addition to his recent book on Morocco, he has published articles in such journals as PMLA, Journal of Spanish Cultural Studies, The Journal of North African Studies, and International Journal of Middle East Studies. He has also contributed essays and commentary to such venues as NPR, the BBC, Foreign Policy, and The American Scholar. This podcast was recorded at the Tangier American Legation Institute for Moroccan Studies (TALIM), on 11 May 2018. To see related slides, visit our website: www.themaghribpodcast.com

In this episode, Eric Calderwood (University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign) speaks about his recently published book Colonial al-Andalus: Spain and the Making of Modern Moroccan Culture (Harvard University Press, 2018). Calderwood offers an overview of his book and also reflects on how the time he has spent in Morocco (especially in Tetouan) has shaped his research topic and his understanding of Moroccan history and literature. Grounded in nearly a decade of research in Spain and North Africa, Colonial al-Andalus explores the culture, politics, and legacies of Spanish colonialism in Morocco (1859-1956). It traces the genealogy of a widespread idea about Morocco: namely, the idea that modern Moroccan culture descends directly from al-Andalus. This idea is pervasive in contemporary Moroccan historiography, literature, and political discourse. Colonial al-Andalus argues that Morocco’s Andalusi identity is not a medieval legacy, but is, instead, a modern invention that emerged from the colonial encounter between Spain and Morocco in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. In pursuit of this argument, the book examines a diverse array of Arabic, Spanish, French, and Catalan sources, including literature, historiography, journalism, political speeches, tourist brochures, and visual culture. Eric Calderwood is an Assistant Professor of Comparative Literature at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where he also holds faculty appointments in the Department of Spanish and Portuguese, the Center for South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies, the Program in Medieval Studies, the Unit for Criticism and Interpretive Theory, and the Program in Jewish Culture and Society. He received his Ph.D. from Harvard University in 2011. His research explores modern Mediterranean culture, with a particular emphasis on Spanish and North African literature and film. In addition to his recent book on Morocco, he has published articles in such journals as PMLA, Journal of Spanish Cultural Studies, The Journal of North African Studies, and International Journal of Middle East Studies. He has also contributed essays and commentary to such venues as NPR, the BBC, Foreign Policy, and The American Scholar.

This adventure — is about my trip to Morocco, after I finish my travels in Andalucia. I take a boat from the southeastern tip of Spain's port, Algeciras, across the Strait of Gibralta, to the northern-most tip of Africa, Ceuta, still Spanish territory… until I cross the Spanish-Moroccan border – by foot – and end up in Tetouan…. Morocco… at the base of the Atlas Mountains. This is not your typical tourist trip to Tangier, Fez, Marrakesh, or Casablanca, but more like a Paul Theroux personal odyssey to see the green cannabis fields and rising moon over…. Chefchaouen. http://erictrules.com/episode32

Episode 19: Migrant Subjectivities and Crisis Narratives in the Euro-med Region   In this episode, Prof. Michael Collyer, a geographer at the University of Sussex tells us about the different narratives people employ when talking about migration and borders. According to French sociologist Abdelmalek Sayad, immigration policy reveals how a state “thinks of itself,” and a lot can be gleaned about Morocco, Collyer says, through understanding how it approaches migrant populations living within its borders. Through discussing different narratives hoisted upon migrants—such as victimization, rebellion and autonomy – Collyer sheds light on the motivations behind changing migration policies both in Morocco, the African Union, the European Union and beyond. The TangierAmerican Legation Institute of Moroccan Studies (TALIM) was pleased to welcome Prof. Collyer on October 9, 2017,  over a decade after he taught in the Geography Department at Université Abdelmalek Essadi in Tetouan over a decade ago. Mr. Sam Metz, a Tangier-based Fulbright Scholar (2016-2017), working in migrant communities, moderated the event.

In this episode, Professor Michael Collyer, a geographer at the University of Sussex tells us about the different narratives people employ when talking about migration and borders. According to French sociologist Abdelmalek Sayad, immigration policy reveals how a state “thinks of itself,” and a lot can be gleaned about Morocco, Collyer says, through understanding how it approaches migrant populations living within its borders. Through discussing different narratives hoisted upon migrants—such as victimization, rebellion and autonomy—Collyer sheds light on the motivations behind changing migration policies both in Morocco, the African Union, the European Union and beyond. The American Legation was pleased to welcome Dr. Collyer on October 9, over a decade after he taught in the Geography Department at Université Abdelmalik Essadi in Tetouan over a decade ago. Sam Metz, a Tangier-based Fulbright Scholar working in migrant communities moderated the event.

Children's book artist and papier mache master, Carolyn Watson-Dubisch joins me for a deep dive into art entrepreneurship, working for the long haul, the inner workings of the children's literary market, and how the residuals from one good project should be the goal, and could be a game changer for anyone's career in the arts. We also break down her recent art residency in Tetouan, Morocco, and discuss the incredible installation she built there, the experience of Ramadan as an American, living abroad for life exploration, how healthcare works (better) when you're in other countries, and challenging yourself, both by living elsewhere, but also by taking on projects before you know how you can execute them. On top of everything, this is "an artist's guide to Etsy, or, the art of tenacity." Truly a practical, takeaway packed conversation, with terrific cultural insight along the way. Follow Carolyn Watson-Dubisch on Facebook, her Etsy store "Artisanmasks" and on Amazon, where you can find her available children's books. Please support the Storycraft podcast by subscribing, rating & reviewing on iTunes. Then tell all your friends! All. Of. Them. If you'd like to do more, please visit patreon.com/monkeygong &/or monkeygong.com/shop. Follow this podcast on twitter @storycraftpod. Follow me on twitter & instargram @kraigcomx.

https://www.s-ge.com/de/article/aktuell/milliarden-euro-fuer-marokkos-infrastruktur Marokko investiert in den Ausbau seiner Infrastruktur: Bis 2035 sollen umfangreiche Verkehrsprojekte sowie ein Ausbau von Häfen und Flughäfen realisiert werden. Bereits 2018 geht die erste Zug-Hochgeschwindigkeitsstrecke in Betrieb. Marokko möchte seine Infrastruktur ausbauen, wovon Schweizer KMU profitieren können. Marokko möchte seine Infrastruktur ausbauen, wovon Schweizer KMU profitieren können. Das marokkanische Königreich plant bis 2035 Investitionen in den Strassenbau von rund 23 Mrd EUR. Insgesamt sollen neue Autobahnen und Schnellstrassen mit einer Gesamtlänge von 5500 Kilometern und einem Investitionswert von 8.8 Mrd EUR entstehen. 2.8 Mrd EUR fliessen in den Bau neuer Landstrassen, 11.4 Mrd EUR sind für den Ausbau und die Instandsetzung der vorhandenen Strasseninfrastruktur vorgesehen. Fünf Strassenverbindungen im Norden des Landes mit einer Gesamtlänge von 434 km sollen im Rahmen von Public-Private-Partnerschaften (PPP) realisiert werden. Dabei handelt es sich unter anderem um die Verbindung zwischen der am Mittelmeer liegenden Hafenstadt Nador und der Autobahnstrecke Fès-Oujada, um eine Anbindung zum Hafen Nador West Med und um Verbindungen zwischen den Städten Tanger und Tetouan sowie zwischen Fès und Taounate. Bestes Schienennetz Afrikas Marokkos Schieneninfrastruktur ist in Afrika bereits heute führend. Insgesamt verfügt das Land über ein Streckennetz von 3657 km, davon sind 2238 km elektrifiziert. Im 1. Quartal 2018 soll nun die erste Hochgeschwindigkeitsstrecke Afrikas in Betrieb gehen. Dabei handelt es sich um die Verbindung Tanger-Casablanca, einem ersten Teilstück der sogenannten „Atlantik-Linie“, die neben Tanger, Rabat und Casablanca auch Essaouira und Agadir sowie die Verbindung mit Marrakesch umfasst. Ausserdem ist eine „trans-maghrebinische Linie“ nach Algier und Tunis geplant. Die marokkanische Eisenbahngesellschaft ONCF und die französische SNCF haben ein Unternehmen gegründet, das die marokkanische Schnellbahn unterhalten wird. 2.25 Mrd EUR will die Regierung in die Entwicklung des Luftverkehrs stecken. Rund die Hälfte davon ist für die Modernisierung und den Ausbau des Flughafens Casablanca/Mohammed V vorgesehen. Ausgebaut wird schliesslich auch der an der Strasse von Gibraltar liegende Schiffshafen Tanger Med. Zwei neue Containerterminals sollen die anvisierte Ausweitung der Kapazitäten sichern. Exportdialog Marokko und Maghreb Erfahren Sie am «Exportdialog: Marokko und Maghreb» mehr zu den Möglichkeiten, die sich für Schweizer Unternehmen im Maghreb bieten. Ausserdem können Sie sich bei unserem Afrika und Iran-Berater Suhail el Obeid über die wichtigsten Schritte für einen Markteintritt in Marokko informieren.

Marokko worstelt met haar jihadisten; op dit moment vechten zo'n 1500 mannen uit het koninkrijk in Syrie en Irak. Meer dan dertig procent van die strijders komt uit de geografische driehoek tussen Tanger, Tetouan en Fnideq. Niet zozeer de religie, maar de zoektocht naar een beter leven is voor mannen uit die arme streek de belangrijste reden om te vetrekken. Een reportage van Rik Goverde.