Podcasts about healing justice

In this engaging episode, Vanessa Codorniu holds a heartfelt discussion with Hattie B. McCarter, exploring her remarkable journey in the field of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Hattie recounts her transformative move from Alabama to Pennsylvania, a shift that not only marked a personal evolution but also shaped her professional trajectory towards becoming a stalwart in DEI initiatives. Listeners gain insights into the personal experiences that awoke her passion for fostering inclusive environments, highlighting the pivotal role of storytelling and empathy in bridging cultural divides and mending hearts. Through enlightening anecdotes, Hattie illustrates her unique approach as a "cultural strategist" in cultivating authentic connections and inspiring change within organizations. The conversation delves into the challenges and rewards of integrating a humanity-centered ethos into leadership and organizational culture. This episode is a testament to the power of vulnerability and understanding, inviting audiences to appreciate the social and cultural dynamics that shape individual and collective identities. Vanessa and Hattie emphasize the ongoing journey toward breaking barriers and creating equitable spaces for all. Some Key ideas along the way... Purpose-Driven Work: Hattie's work in DEI stems from a deep-seated belief in connecting with others' hearts to evoke meaningful change. Storytelling as a Tool: The power of storytelling is emphasized as a means of fostering empathy, understanding, and breaking down barriers. **Personal and Professional Growth**: Hattie's transition from Alabama to Pennsylvania was a turning point that underscored her commitment to addressing racism and inclusion. Emotional Intelligence in Leadership: The importance of emotional awareness and leading with vulnerability is highlighted as crucial for effective leadership. Recognition of Internalized Racism: Hattie discusses the journey of embracing her identity as a Black woman and how it paved the way for her current DEI initiatives. BIO: Hattie B. McCarter is a seasoned cultural strategist and thought leader specializing in diversity, equity, inclusion, accessibility, and belonging. With over 17 years of experience in DEI and 25 years of public speaking expertise, Hattie has profoundly impacted the human resources and recruitment sectors. Originally from Enterprise, Alabama, she holds a master's degree in rehabilitation counseling from Alabama State University. Her exemplary work has earned her accolades such as the DEI Trailblazer Award in 2023 from the National Coalition of 100 Black Women, Inc. and recognition from Penn Live as a trendsetter and trailblazer. Hattie B. McCarter is dedicated to creating inclusive spaces where individuals can thrive authentically. MEND Solutions, LLC: https://mendsolutionsllc.org/#home Instagram:   / teawithhattieb   V   anessa Codorniu website: https://thebizbruja.com   Improv for Business: https://improv-unleashed.com   BIO: Vanessa Codorniu is a Latina improviser, educator, facilitator and trailblazer in the bilingual wellness space. Born in Peru to Argentinean parents and raised in NYC, she has a background in film, theatre and communications. As a holistic business mentor with over 14,000 sessions and a thriving online business since 2013, she has made a profound impact in developing the next generation of Latinx and BIPOC wellness leaders. Recognizing the lack of diversity in the improv community, she recently created, coaches, and performs with the first Latino improv team in Central PA, LoS CoMpLiCaDos. Vanessa has led Improv for Healing Justice workshops at The People's Convention and teaches Improv for Resilience at Hershey Medical Hospital, along with introductory improv classes at the Harrisburg Improv Theatre. She has two podcasts; the Biz Bruja in English and Nachos Magicas in ESPAÑOL. #podcast #entrepreneurship #strategy #love #mendinghearts #BIPOC Van

After a brutal assault in the 1980s, a young woman identifies the wrong man as her attacker, but once DNA evidence proves his innocence, they form an unlikely bond, determined to right their paths of justice.This episode is the fifth and final in our five part series, “A World Beyond Revenge” featuring five powerful stories of people on both sides of tragic incidents of unimaginable harm who found healing through the groundbreaking process of Restorative Justice. Today's episode featured Jennifer Thompson. You can email Jennifer at info@healingjusticeproject.org. Healing Justice works to prevent and alleviate the harms caused to all by wrongful convictions through advocacy, education, and direct support.Instagram: @healing_justice Facebook: @HealingJustice Bluesky: @jet4love.bsky.social [Jennifer Thompson]LinkedIn: company/Healing-Justice-ProjectYou can find Jennifer's book, ""Picking Cotton:Our Memoir of Injustice and Redemption” by Jennifer Thompson and Ronald Cotton with Erin Torneo on Amazon or wherever you buy your books. Jennifer's Full BIOInspirational Crime Survivor, Founder of Healing Justice, and New York Times Best-Selling Author of Picking Cotton. Jennifer Thompson is a crime survivor who, in 1984, survived a brutal attack in her home while attending college in North Carolina. The man who was convicted and imprisoned for the crime at the time was proven innocent a decade later, revealing that the actual attacker had gone free. Thompson emerged as a pioneer of restorative justice, and a symbol of courage and resilience, when, in the wake of these devastating events, she befriended the man who hadbeen wrongly convicted. She then went on to co-author with him the New York Timesbest-seller, Picking Cotton, which recounts their joint story of failed justice. Thompson has since become a beacon of strength and recovery by speaking out to the world about her traumatic and painful experiences. She has also become a leading advocate for other crime survivors and victims, and her lived experience has inspired countless policy makers, law enforcement, and justice leaders worldwide to effect key reforms to improve the accuracy and fairness of our justice system.In 2015, Thompson founded the national nonprofit organization, Healing Justice, which serves crime survivors, victims, and others through restorative justice and justice reform. Thompson is the recipient of numerous awards, including the Special Courage Award from the US Department of Justice's Office for Victims of Crime. She has testified on behalf of crime survivors and victims on criminal justice reforms before the United States Congress and state legislatures. She has appeared as a guest on numerous television and radio programs, including Good Morning America, the Today Show, Oprah, Dr. Phil, Rikki Lake, The View, 60 Minutes, 20/20, NBC News, Nightline, CNN Anderson Cooper, NPR, Diane Rehm, and PBS Frontline. Thompson's courageous and inspiring story has also been featured in many print outlets, such as People, RedBook, Newsweek, and The New York Times.Engaged through Keppler Speakers since 2010, Thompson has presented to hundreds of audiences around the world on issues of fairness, equity, empathy, trauma, recovery, healing, altruism, and leadership. An unwavering example of turning tremendous harm into abundant healing, Thompson inspires audiences to not just persevere but to flourish in the wake of unexpected - and even unimaginable - adversity. With endless bravery, grace, and humor, Thompson captivates all audiences with her profoundly important and timely message of optimism, generosity, and hope.Producers: Whit Missildine, Andrew Waits, Aviva Lipkowitz Content/Trigger Warnings: disordered eating, familial conflict, poverty, sexual assault including rape by a stranger, breaking & entering, victim shaming, wrongful conviction and incarceration, explicit languageThank you to our series collaborators, Why Me? & Yoana Tchoukleva: Why Me? are a national charity in the UK, promoting access to Restorative Justice for people affected by crime or conflict. They also support people who have been through the Restorative Justice process to share their stories. If you want to find out more about Restorative Justice, visit their website www.why-me.org. If you want help accessing Restorative Justice in the UK, you can contact them via info@why-me.org. LinkedIn: Why me? UKInstagram: @whymeukFacebook: @WhymeUKThreads: @whymeukBluesky: @whymeuk.bsky.socialYoana Tchoukleva is an attorney, RJ practitioner, & lecturer at Berkeley Law. She is also a Senior Program Manager at Impact Justice. You can email her at ioanaq@gmail.com. You can reach out to her on Instagram @yoana.tch and on Facebook @""Yoana Tchoukleva"", and on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ioanatchoukleva/. Please consider donating to Atunse Justice League. LINK TO OUR LISTENER SURVEY! We've come up with a short audience survey, which you can find linked in our show notes and in the bio of our Instagram page @actuallyhappening. We'd love to hear your opinions and feedback, and we'd really appreciate your point of view. 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This grounding mediation invites you into a more honest, collective vision of hope--one that doesn't lie to you or ask you to ignroee your pain. Rooted in truth, breath, and somatic awareness, this epiesode offers a calm space to rest, feel, and begin again.    What does it mean to have hope without gaslighting yourself?  In this Mediation, Desi Hall--founder of 3rd Ave. Wellness--guides you through a practice that names what's real while he;ping you return to your body and breath. This is not hope rooted in false positivity or toxic resilience. It's hope rooted in clarity, grief, and resistance. Whether you're feeling overwhemled by the news, struggling to keep going, or just in need of a pause that doesn't ask you to shrink your pain-- this episode is for you. This mediation is especially for: Black women navigating burnout and mounting pressure at work Disabled folks who deserve access to collective care Queer and trans people seeking spiritual grounding Anyone who is tired of being told "it's not that bad." Collective care starts here. Let this be your reset. https://3rdavewellness.com  

In this enlightening episode, you''ll learn how a growing group of funders is thinking about wellbeing – for grantees and themselves. Laura Bacon, strategy lead and facilitator of the Funders and Wellbeing Group, discusses how this new global group of a dozen foundations is working to transform philanthropic culture with regard to wellbeing. Through regular virtual meetings and annual in-person gatherings, the group explores ways to support both individual and organizational wellbeing in the social sector. Their recent retreat in Malaysia highlighted how many nonprofit staff challenges related to wellbeing are universal, from shrinking civic spaces to staff burnout and retention issues.The conversation emphasizes the critical importance of maintaining focus on wellbeing initiatives during challenging times, particularly in the current political climate where social justice work and the nonprofit sector face significant pressures. Laura advocates for funders to be more flexible and generous in their support, while ensuring that wellbeing remains a priority rather than an optional add-on in grantmaking practices.Laura shares her journey from musician to social change advocate, and her extensive experience in philanthropy and wellbeing initiatives. As the former founding director of the Partner Support Program at Luminate (an Omidyar foundation), she established wellbeing stipends for grantee organizations, allowing them to address their staff's needs with maximum flexibility. The program distributed about 71 grants totaling $350,000, which organizations used for various purposes from team retreats to mental health support.Biography:For more than two decades, Laura Bacon has designed programs and led projects and teams to achieve social impact around the world. She's currently an independent consultant, partnering with clients on a host of cool initiatives. One of her roles includes Strategy Lead and Facilitator of the Funders + Wellbeing Group at The Wellbeing Project, where she facilitates peer-learning and convenings among a dozen funders to enhance wellbeing for individuals, organizations, sectors, and communities.Previously, Laura was founding director of the Partner Support program at Luminate, a global philanthropic organization that is part of the Omidyar Group, where she supported over 300 grantee partners to achieve their goals of being more resilient, healthy & inclusive, and well-networked.Before working at Luminate / Omidyar Network, Laura was a White House Fellow focused on clean energy.Resources: laura.m.bacon@gmail.com LinkedIn Funders & Wellbeing Group Website Wellbeing Project website The Wellbeing Project - Global Hearth Summit in Slovenia College course: Personal Choice and Global Transformation Global Values 101, a book based on the above course, edited by Brian Palmer, Kate Holbrook, Ann S. Kim, Anna Portnoy   Rights and Dignity Working Group (piloted Wellness stipends - a cross-Omidyar Group initiative) Astraea Lesbian Foundation For Justice (inspiration for wellness stipends) https://astraeafoundation.org  - Healing Justice stipend General Service Foundation (inspiration for wellness stipends): https://generalservice.org/whatwefund/healingjustice/  - Fund the People podcast interview with Desiree Flores Priya Parker book “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” Deepa Iyer's Social Change Ecosystem Role Map Prospera, the International Network of Women's Funders, doing great work on wellbeing Laura's Blog posts on Partner Support, Coaching Stipend, Wellbeing Stipends: Luminate & Omidyar Group (philanthropy I worked with for 10+ years) * Here's more info about thePartner Support program of which I was the founding director Blogs (first andsecond) about Luminate's wellbeing stipend Luminate's coaching stipend Grantee Perception Reports (2020 and2023) Funders & Wellbeing Group "FundWell" newsletter about our funders' retreat in Malaysia

Popular representations of the Black Panthers often focus on their armed self-defense activities, but medical services and health justice were a tremendous part of the party's work. This legacy continues today as Black activists work to transform the medical industrial complex and its relationship to the prison system. Erica Woodland (he/him), co-author of Healing Justice Lineages, joins Rattling the Bars to discuss this history, his current activism, and the role of The Real News's own beloved Eddie Conway in influencing his path.Studio/Post-Production: Cameron GranadinoHelp us continue producing Rattling the Bars by following us and becoming a monthly sustainer.Sign up for our newsletterLike us on FacebookFollow us on TwitterDonate to support this podcast

“We really have a big opportunity right now to decide, within traumatic conditions and circumstances, how we are going to show up, again and again, for ourselves and each other,” says Tanuja Jageranauth. In this episode of “Movement Memos,” host Kelly Hayes talks with radical therapist Dorian Ortega and Healing Justice practitioners Tanuja Jagernauth and Chiara Galimberti about trauma, and some of the tools and practices that can help us heal. Music: Son Monarcas, David Celeste & Peter Sandberg You can find a transcript and show notes (including links to resources) here: truthout.org/series/movement-memos/ If you would like to support the show, you can donate here: bit.ly/TODonate If you would like to receive Truthout's newsletter, please sign up: bit.ly/TOnewsletter

We talk to Ashley Winters and Darian Wigfall about their work on the Racial Healing + Justice Fund as members of Forward Through Ferguson's Community Governance Board. We discuss their efforts to “heal the core” – that is, to create space for communities to express narratives of oppression and grief; to create spaces for community members to find sources of support to build networks of resilience; and to find and exercise their individual and/or collective power.This is the first episode in an ongoing series titled Racial Community Healing, where we explore how the St. Louis region and other cities have developed community-driven solutions to racial injustices.Links:Episode webpageEpisode transcriptRacial Healing + Justice Fund webpage

In this episode, Joe interviews Diana Quinn, ND: naturopathic doctor, healing justice practitioner, and director of clinical education at the Naropa Center for Psychedelic Studies, where she directs their Psilocybin Facilitator Training certificate program. She discusses her path from anthropology to naturopathy, and eventually to psychedelics and activism, finding a framework for psychedelic education grounded in healing justice, which recognizes the impact of collective trauma on all of us, seeks to reclaim lost or stolen models of healing, focuses on equity and accessibility, and brings an anti-oppression lens to training programs to give students a greater capacity for culturally responsive care. She encourages seeing things from an anti-capitalist viewpoint, and recognizes the huge clash between using such powerful and mystical medicines inside structures so embedded with problematic human qualities. How can you build inside of these Western systems without being affected by that capitalist energy? She discusses: The importance of respecting plants from other cultures – that no healing or consciousness expansion is justifiable when it threatens an entire species The challenge of integrating the weirdest parts of non-ordinary states into education: How does a Western framework come to terms with the ineffable? How colonialism and the culture born from it has hurt us all The importance of finding your own lineage and what is sacred to you The work of Rick Tarnas and the amazing patterns we can find in astrology and more!  For links, head to the show notes page. 

Today, Hunter is joined by two people who's work attempts to bring people together to heal after a wrongful conviction. Jennifer Thompson, Founder of Healing Justice, and Professor Jamie Lau from Duke University join the show to discuss how they help the wrongfully convicted, the victims in a wrongful conviction, the families of both, and the communities they are from come together to talk and hopefully heal from the bomb that is a wrongful conviction   Guests: Jennifer Thompson, Founder, Healing Justice Jamie Lau, Clinical Professor of Law, Duke University School of Law     Resources: Healing Justice Website https://healingjusticeproject.org/ Contact Jamie https://law.duke.edu/fac/lau https://x.com/laudurham Innocence Network https://innocencenetwork.org/     Contact Hunter Parnell:                                 Publicdefenseless@gmail.com  Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter                                                                 @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com  Subscribe to the Patron www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast  Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home  

It's rare we follow a story for 15 years. Lesley Stahl reports on Jennifer Thompson, a rape victim who learned years after her attack that an innocent man was sent to prison. Thompson is now bringing together exonerees and crime victims. Norah O'Donnell sits down with Dave Isay, founder of the "One Small Step" program. He hopes to bridge the political divide.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode we're exploring why the right is so scared of gender through an intergenerational conversation between elder and younger organizers across the South: Miss Major, Suzanne Pharr, Nathalie Nia Faulk, and Lorie Bryant.  We have seen a rampant increase in organized attacks on trans people across the U.S. over the past two years. At the time of this recording, in March 2024,  over 500 anti-trans bills had already been introduced in legislatures across the country.  We know that these attacks against our people, and narratives about our communities, are not new. They are cyclical. The right is using many of the same old stories and strategies to target us. This episode digs into historical and contemporary strategies of the Right, as well as our ongoing joyful strategies of resistance.  This episode is hosted by Frances Reid, (she/her) based in Oakland CA. Frances is member of the National Council of Elders and a veteran of 40 years of activist documentary film making.  Joining Frances in this conversation are: Miss Major, (she/her) is a Black, transgender activist based in Little Rock, AR who has fought for over 50 years for her trans/gender nonconforming community. Major is a veteran of the infamous Stonewall Riots, a former sex worker, and a survivor of Dannemora Prison and Bellevue Hospital's "queen tank." She continues her work to uplift transgender women of color, particularly those who have survived incarceration and police brutality. Suzanne Pharr, (she/her), is a southern queer feminist and anti-racist organizer, also based in Little Rock, AR. She founded the  Women's Project in Arkansas in 1981, was a co-founder of Southerners on New Ground in 1993, and was director of the Highlander Center from 1999 to 2004. Pharr is an organizer and political strategist who has spent her adult life working to build a broad-based, multi-racial, multi-issued movement for social and economic justice in the U.S. Nathalie Nia Faulk, (she/they) born in Lafayette, LA and currently living in New Orleans is a self described Ebony Southern Belle! Her work blends Performance, History, Healing Justice, Cultural Organizing, and leadership development in service of all people, but particularly for Trans and Queer communities. Currently, they serve as a human rights commissioner for the City of New Orleans, co-director of Southern Organizer Academy, co-director of of Last Call Oral History Project, and as the Cultural Organizing Programs Manager for Alternate ROOTS.  Lorie Bryant, (she/her) hails from Charleston, SC and is now based in Memphis, TN. Lorie is a creative arts enthusiast, natural storyteller, conversationalist, avid outdoor explorer, and indoor gardener. Lorie has worked extensively with Southerners on New Ground on campaigns and strategic projects geared towards dismantling oppressive structures and rallying for Queer liberation across lines of race, class, culture, abilities, age, gender, and sexuality.  Lorie is especially committed to pouring back into Black communities—to ensure that they have adequate resources that will allow them to create and thrive within the communities of their dreams.      

In this episode, Sophy Banks shares her rich wealth of knowledge, teachings, and experiences about what it means to truly support ourselves and others through both collective and personal traumas. Cultures of individualism often lead us to navigate trauma on our own— without rituals of shared and collective space holding. For some, particularly those who have been victims of oppression, colonialism, and dispossession, the rivers and oceans of grief held within are often too vast and too deep to be carried alone.Join us in this episode as Sophy offers medicine for our souls, asking vital questions about collective grief tending. How do we notice trauma? How do we disrupt ways of managing grief that possibly reinforce systems and cultures of destruction? And what does it mean to truly care for and hold one another through times of darkness and despair?Tune in and subscribe to Green Dreamer via any podcast app, and join us on Patreon for the extended version of this episode.

In our Built By Faith series, we're sitting down with faith leaders from across the state to talk about the intersections of Faith, Justice, and Advocacy.In this episode, you'll meet Lela Ali, an immigrant from Egypt and Duke University alum with a Master's in International Development Policy and Middle East Studies. As Co-founder of Muslim Women For, Lela spearheads efforts to uplift Black, Brown, immigrant, and indigenous Muslim women in North Carolina through political advocacy, grassroots organizing, and coalition building. With a passion for voting rights, immigrant justice, and reproductive justice, she's a vibrant leader driving positive change in her community.Support the Show.Follow Us on Social MediaFacebook: @DemocracyNorthCarolinaInstagram: @democracyncTikTok: @democracyncX: @democracync

Who: When: Saturday, April 27, 2024Part 1 - 10 a.m. - 11:30 a.m. and Part 2 - 12 p.m. - 1:30 p.m.Where: Mitchell Hamline School of Law Auditorium – 875 Summit Ave. To register for the events: https://forms.gle/7zycgBXQQLvPK52q9. Registration is encouragedbut not required. 

In this episode, we delved into Dr. Bernadette Lim's journey from medical school to creating a revolutionary community-based healing healthcare system in Oakland, California. Dr. Bernie's decision to pivot from traditional medical practice to community healing was driven by her deep-rooted desire to create a more inclusive and holistic approach to healthcare. Guest Spotlight: Dr. Bernadette Lim is a passionate advocate for integrating ancestral healing with Western medicine to achieve Whole-Person Healing. At just 29 years old, Dr. Bernie has already made significant contributions to the field. She founded and leads the Freedom Community Clinic in Oakland, CA, and serves as a faculty member at the San Francisco State Institute for Holistic Health Studies. Additionally, she co-founded the Institute for Healing & Justice in Medicine. Dr. Bernie is a graduate of UCSF School of Medicine and UC Berkeley School of Public Health through the Joint Medical Program as a PRIME-US Scholar. She also graduated with honors from Harvard University in 2016 and served as a Fulbright-Nehru Scholar in India. How to connect with Dr. Bernie: Follow her on Instagram Follow the Freedom Community Clinic on Instagram Learn more about Healing and Justice in Medicine  -MORE: Connect: www.bewellsis.com Follows us on Instagram! Be Well, Sis Partners: Athletic Greens (AG1)– Redeem your offer for 1 year of high-quality Vitamin D + 5 free travel packs  

Community-based public safety is essential to providing our communities and people with the resources they need to live and thrive. Listen as Aaron and Damien discuss the Healing and Justice Center's 2023 Annual Report, which outlines the organization's efforts to enact true community-based public safety initiatives in Miami, and what we learn from the Healing and Justice Center's work in our continued learning and fight for social justice and collective liberation. Follow us on social media and visit our website! ⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Threads⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leave us a voice message⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch store⁠⁠

Vladimir Putin has killed nearly all internal opposition to his unprovoked war in Ukraine. Tonight, Scott Pelley travels to a foreign city that's become a haven for courageous Russians defying Putin and speaking out.It's something no one else has tried and perhaps only she could pull off. Jennifer Thompson, a rape victim, is bringing together crime survivors and people who were wrongfully convicted. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this deep and enlightening conversation, Vanessa Codorniu engages Yaqui Rodriguez in a discussion about spirituality, healing, and ancestral wisdom. The episode illuminates the non-linear journey of self-discovery and the embodiment of spiritual practices into everyday life. Yaqui Rodriguez shares her upbringing drawing from folk Catholicism where spiritual practices were normalized in day-to-day life. Continuing the narrative, Yaqui elaborates on her spiritual awakening around her mid-20s, leading her to explore various belief systems and subsequently face life's challenges. Finding Kundalini yoga and integrating personal healing experiences into her path, Yaqui emphasizes the importance of aligning with one's self. The conversation also touches on breaking ancestral patterns, embracing ancestral gifts, and the concept of healing justice, as defined by Kara Page, highlighting the holistic response to generational trauma and oppression. Takeaways: The journey to spiritual awakening and healing is non-linear, individualized, and can involve various explorations and struggles.   Ancestral patterns, such as martyrdom and people-pleasing, can be recognized and broken to embrace a life of self-worth and alignment with personal values.   Mediumship and other ancestral spiritual gifts can be reclaimed and integrated into one's life after overcoming fear and societal stigma.   Healing justice addresses the impact of oppression on bodies, hearts, and minds, connecting individuals to their ancestral lineage and holistic healing practices.   Investing in oneself is an essential step towards spiritual development and realizing one's full potential. BIO: Yaqui is the descendant of farmers and folk healers from the central mountain region in the Dominican Republic. Through the exploration of her own emotional and spiritual growth she found her sacred path. Dedicating the past 13 years to study, she has completed more than 40 trainings with diverse teachers of different modalities in the healing arts. Her work is rooted in remembrance, healing intergenerational trauma, reconnecting to ancestral practices, the wisdom of the self and the earth.  Currently, she co-leads National Healing Justice programs with non profit organizations and is pursuing certification in Integrative Psychedelic Therapy integrating Transpersonal Psychotherapy, Indigenous Wisdom and findings from modern consciousness research. Links: www.yaquirodriguez.com www.yaquirodriguez.com/recuerdoretreat     Timestamp Summary 0:00:02 Introduction to Yaqui Rodriguez and her background     0:01:38 Discussion on Yaqui 's upbringing and spiritual experiences 0:04:11  Yaqui 's first spiritual emergence and exploration of different belief systems 0:06:05 Discovering Kundalini yoga and pursuing leadership trainings 0:08:07  Yaqui 's hesitation to invest in herself and considering Reiki 0:10:01 Making a promise to herself to pursue spiritual work 0:11:03 Non-linear journey and importance of individual paths 0:12:14  Yaqui 's involvement in a national healing justice program 0:12:39 How Yaqui s work led her to start her own business 0:13:27  Yaqui Rodriguez shares her journey in the fitness industry and healing her relationship with her body and weight 0:14:43  Yaqui integrates spirituality into her work and transitions into her own spiritual business 0:16:07  Yaqui  starts working part-time in a nonprofit organization and begins bringing healing work into the nonprofit space 0:17:06  Yaqui  gets her first opportunity to work with a national organization and co-lead healing justice work 0:19:19  Yaqui  discusses breaking ancestral patterns, including martyrdom and early motherhood 0:22:58  Yaqui  leans into her ancestral gifts of answering the call and embracing her mediumship abilities 0:25:16  Yaqui  encourages listeners to trust themselves and follow their hearts 0:26:30  Yaqui  shares her contact information and website for further connection  

“I think if people don't change by shame or blame or forcing them into things, I think they change because they have a vision of the world they want.”In this episode, I get to talk with Dara Silverman, a white queer Jewish consultant, somatic coach, and trainer with over 20 years with organizations and movements for social, racial, economic, and gender justice. Dara was the founding director of Showing Up for Racial Justice (SURJ), an organization bringing together white folks working for racial and economic justice. She shares insights into supporting clients around the ongoing genocide in Gaza. We discuss how politicized coaches can hold the principle of “not having an agenda for clients” while still bringing in their political views. Dara also shares how white coaches and facilitators committed to systemic change can integrate anti-racism into our work for change.Check out the episode page for the transcript and the full list of the resources mentioned in this episode: https://widerroots.com/3 Key moments02:28 - Dara's background08:22 - Coaching clients around Gaza12:13 - Holding "not having an agenda" while being politicized21:03 - Relaxed, Dignified, and Accountable: Supporting white folks to show up for racial justice26:30 - The role of coaching in movement spaces33:28 - Dara's coaching growth area35:21 - Dara's sources of nourishmentResources & LinksShowing Up for Racial Justice (organization)Strozzi Institute (coach training training program)generative somatics (somatics training)Leadership That Works, Coaching for Transformation (coaching program, now only in India)Black Leadership for Organizing and Dignity (organization)The Embodiment Institute (organization)Coaching for Healing Justice and Liberation (coach training program)Nervous by Jen Soriano (book)Fargo (TV series)Handsome (podcast)Connect with Dara SilvermanWebsite: DaraSilverman.com for upcoming courses and resources.Opening to Freedom: Embodied Facilitation for White Folks - the year-long program that Dara discussed in the episode. Register by March 25, 2024.Weekly online somatic practice groupInstagram: Follow @darasilverLinkedIn:

“Are we doing the things that we need to do to co-regulate and to self- regulate so that we can be as strategic as possible and so that we can also not take each other out in the process of getting free?” Erica Woodland (he/him) is a facilitator, consultant, psychotherapist and healing justice practitioner with more than 20 years of experience working at the intersections of movements for racial, gender, economic, trans & queer justice. Erica is a co-editor of the anthology ‘Healing Justice Lineages: Dreaming at the Crossroads of Liberation, Collective Care and Safety' (North Atlantic Books, 2023) & Founder/Executive Director of the National Queer and Trans Therapists of Color Network (NQTTCN.com). In this special episode, Anjali and Erica discuss: Erica's journey and path into the work, a calling from the ancestors Collective memory regarding the legacy of resistance, roots and lessons for building movements and healing. Foundational premises of healing justice and the abolitionist approach to justice The meaning of healing Learning from the mistakes of our movement ancestors Misconceptions that people have about healing justice work The integrality of dissent How we can prevent the values of dominant culture, for example, capitalism or hyper individualism from seeping into movement work Practices of care Connect with Erica on his website or on Instagram @ebmore1 @nqttcn @hjlineages You can order the Healing Justice Lineages Book HERE! Free Resources for Teachers We are grateful for the support of our podcast partner OfferingTree — an all-in-one, easy to use business platform for classes, courses, memberships and more. Check it out at www.offeringtree.com/accessibleyoga.

During 2023, the Black Girl's Guide to Surviving Menopause continued to bushwack a maroon path for those menopause stories left at the margins by launching a diasporic tour that took our team to the UK, Harlem, Toronto, and Puerto Rico. Our intergenerational team has learned to hold the “both/and” dynamic tension of curating storytelling spaces more deeply. We are infinitely grateful for the lessons we have learned from our travels together, community conversations, and partnerships that include: What it means to make offerings in communities where we do not reside What it means to partner with people who have different definitions and understandings of community, culture, justice, gender, healing, and liberation What it means to collaborate with BIPOC and queer creatives and artists who are infinitely talented and habitually underresourced What it means to hold intergenerational space in ways that don't reinforce ageist tropes about who can offer wisdom, respect, power, and perspective What it means to create, in real-time, a culture of belonging and care for and with your team What it means to travel internationally as a team in ways that keep us safe from harm What it means to be patient, humble, and accountable What it means to try and fail What it means to try and soar In this last episode of this very special season of the podcast, you will hear stories from our time in Toronto and team reflections from Puerto Rico. As you soak up this offering, we will leave you with these questions as 2023 comes to a close: What is the important liberatory work you want to do for your community and the spaces you occupy? What stories live inside you that are ready to be shared? See you in 2024! Episode Notes Voices heard in this episode: Alexandra Jane, BGG2SM Social Media Manager Farhath Siddiqui, BGG2SM Hits the Road Videographer, Siddiqui Media Assata Goff, BGG2SM in-house artist Omisade Burney-Scott, Creator & CCO at the Black Girl's Guide to Surviving Menopause Feature Orisii interviewees: Amma Gyamfowa, Founder of Womanist Healing Georgina G., mother of Amma Season 5 Host and Producer: Mariah M., Creative Director at the Black Girl's Guide to Surviving Menopause Score credits (all music free to use under Creative Commons Licensing): Moving Fast by Holden Excess Beauty all Around Us by Steven Beddall (AudioLibrary) AfroLove by The LadyProducer (AudioLibrary) BGG Season 4/5 Theme - Taj Scott This season and the diasporic tour were made possible by our partners and sponsors at The Honey Pot Company, Kindra, Elektra Health and the Groundswell Fund. For the past four years, the Black Girls' Guide to Surviving Menopause has been a multi-media platform with Reproductive Justice, Black Feminism, and Healing Justice as our north star. At its core, this means we fundamentally believe that none of us are free until all of us are free, and when the most vulnerable of us are taken care of, all of society stands to benefit. BGG2SM unapologetically stands in solidarity with all marginalized people and their struggle for freedom, and their demand of their innate human rights.

Episode Summary This week on Live Like the World is Dying, Margaret and Leah talk about disability, preparedness, and covid. Guest Info Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha (They/She) is a writer and structural engineer of disability and transformative justice work. Leah can be found at brownstargirl.org, on Instagram @leahlakshmiwrites, or on Bluesky @thellpsx.bsky.social Their book The Future is Disabled: Prophecies, Love Notes, and Mourning Songs can be found: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-future-is-disabled-prophecies-love-notes-and-mourning-songs-leah-lakshmi-piepzna-samarasinha/18247280 Their book Care Work: Dreaming Disability Justice can be found: https://bookshop.org/p/books/care-work-dreaming-disability-justice-leah-lakshmi-piepzna-samarasinha/16603798 Host Info Margaret (she/they) can be found on twitter @magpiekilljoy or instagram at @margaretkilljoy. Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Transcript Leah on Disability and Preparedness Resources Mentioned: StaceyTaughtUs Syllabus, by Alice Wong and Leah: https://disabilityvisibilityproject.com/2020/05/23/staceytaughtus-syllabus-work-by-stacey-milbern-park/ NoBody Is Disposable Coalition: https://nobodyisdisposable.org/ Power To Live Coalition: https://www.powertolivecoalition.org/ Disability Visibility Project article about Power to Live : https://disabilityvisibilityproject.com/2019/10/26/call-for-stories-powertolive/ Power to Live survival skillshare doc: http://tinyurl.com/dissurvival Long winter crip survival guide for pandemic year 4/forever by Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha and Tina “constant tt” Zavitsanos https://www.tinyurl.com/longwintersurvival Pod Mapping for Mutual Aid by Rebel Sydney Rose Fayola Black: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-QfMn1DE6ymhKZMpXN1LQvD6Sy_HSnnCK6gTO7ZLFrE/mobilebasic?fbclid=IwAR0ehOJdo-vYmJUrXsKCpQlCODEdQelzL9AE5UDXQ1bMgnHh2oAnqFs2B3k Half Assed Disabled Prepper Tips for Preparing for a Coronavirus Quarantine. (By Leah) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rIdpKgXeBHbmM3KpB5NfjEBue8YN1MbXhQ7zTOLmSyo/edit Sins Invalid Disability Justice is Climate Justice: https://www.sinsinvalid.org/news-1/2022/7/7/disability-justice-is-climate-justice Skin Tooth and Bone: The Basis of Movement is Our People (A disability justice primer): https://www.sinsinvalid.org/disability-justice-primer DJ Curriculum by Sins: https://www.sinsinvalid.org/curriculum Partnership for Inclusive Disaster Strategies: https://disasterstrategies.org/ Live Like the World is Dying: Leah on Disability & Preparedness **Margaret ** 00:15 Hello, and welcome to Live Like the World is Dying, your podcast for what feels like the end times. I'm your host, Margaret killjoy. And I always tell you that I'm excited about episodes, but I'm really excited about this episode. It put me in a better mood than when I started the day that I get to record this episode. Because today, we're going to be talking about disability and preparedness. We're gonna be talking about Covid abandonment. And we're gonna be talking about a lot of the questions that... a lot of the questions that people write us to talk about that they have about preparedness and I think that we can cover a lot of those. Not me, but our guest. But first before the guest, a jingle from another show on the network. Oh, the network is called Channel Zero Network. It is a network of anarchists podcasts and here's a jingle. [sings a simple melody] **Margaret ** 01:08 Okay, and we're back. So, if you could introduce yourself with your name, your pronouns, and then I guess just a little bit about how you got involved in thinking about and dealing with disability and preparedness. **Leah ** 02:00 Sure. Hi, my name is Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha. She and They pronouns. Right now I live in Pocomtuc and Nipmuc territories in Western Massachusetts. And that is a great question. I will also just plug myself briefly and be like I'm a disability justice and transformative justice old sea-hag, aging punk of color who has written or co-edited ten books and done a lot of shit. Okay, so when I was sitting on the toilet thinking about "What do I want to tell Margaret when we get on the show?", I was actually thinking that my disability and my preparedness routes are kind of one in the same because... So I'm 48 [years old] now and I got sick when I was 21-22. So like back in 96-97. And, it was the initial episode that I got sick with chronic fatigue, ME, and fibromyalgia. And I was just super fucking ill and on the floor and was living in Toronto as somebody who was not from Canada. And, you know, I was just sick as hell, like crawling to the bathroom, like sleeping 18 hours a day. The whole nine. And I'd been really really deeply involved in anarchist of color and prison abolitionist and antifascist organizing and lots of stuff. I had a community, but it was 1997, so most of my community was just like, "What you're sick? Why didn't you make it to the meeting? We have to write all the prisoners with the [untranslatable]." And I was just like, "I just.... Okay, great." Like it was a really different time. There was no GoFundMe, mutual aid, Meal Train, someone brought me some soup. Like, know you, we weren't really doing that. And people really did not have a consciousness around, "You can be a 22 year old brown, nonbinary femme and be really, really sick and be disabled." So something I think a lot, and I've said before, is that disabled people are really used to the concept that no one is going to save us and we are really not surprised when state systems abandoned us because we live in that all the time. And so I was just like this little 22 year old sicko weirdo who'd read my Octavia Butler--and, in fact, that was part of the reason why I was like, "Toronto, great, there's gonna be more water and less heat." Okay, wasn't totally right about that. But, you know, I mean, I really had to save myself and I kind of was like, "Alright, I don't have..." Like, I'm working off the...I'm working under the table. I have hardly any money. I'm gonna make my own herbal medicine. I'm gonna grow a lot of what I eat from my backyard. I'm going to store water. I'm going to run a credit card scam and get a lot of dried goods and live off of those for like a year. [Margaret Hell Yeahs] Yeah, stuff like that. I feel like from there, over the last, you know, 26 years like it's....like, that's the route. The route was, you know, similar to a lot of people, I think of my generation, we were like on the cusp of looking at the current crises of like hot fascist war, hot eugenics war, hot climate crisis, and being like, "It's coming," and I started being like, "Yeah, like don't...don't think that it's all going to work out okay and that somebody else is going to fix it for you." So, I would say that's where my initial route--and then do you want to jump in? Or can I jump ahead like 20 years or something? **Margaret ** 05:10 Honestly, you could jump ahead 20 years later. I'm gonna come back and make you talk more about Octavia Butler. But we'll do that later. **Leah ** 05:16 Let's talk more about Octavia Butler because I have a lot of stuff about Octavia Butler and how she thought of--and I think sometimes misused--like nowadays [this is probably not the word but it's untranslatable] and also about disability. [Margaret "Oooohs" curiously] I know. We can get to that. Okay, so that's one route. And then, you know, I mean, I was always kind of like a little weirdo, where it's like, yeah, I grow most of my own food--or as much as I can--and it's not a fun green hobby. It's like, I'm broke as fuck and I need to grow a lot vegetables that fucking, you know, I can mulch and that can stay growing into December, you know? I stashed stuff. Something I also think a lot, is that as disabled people--and we talked about this a little bit when we're emailing--I think we're always prepping whether we call it that or not. Like most disabled folks I know just do shit. Like if you get a prescription and you have extra, you store it, you know? Like, if you can get a double dose, you put that aside. And then maybe you have it for yourself. Or, there's so many disabled mutual aid networks I've been a part of where someone's--I mean, before Facebook clamped down, this is really common on a lot of Facebook disabled groups--someone would be like, "Yo, does anyone have an extra five pills of such and such?" and I've seen total strangers for 15 years of disability justice be like, "Yep, what's your address? I do. I'm gonna mail it to you. I have my old pain meds. I've got this. I've got that." But, um, yeah, like doing the jumping forward that I promised you, so for people who don't know, disability justice as a movement was founded around 2005 by a group, a small group of disabled Black, Asian, and poor and working class, white disabled folks, who were all pretty, you know, gay, trans, and radical. And they were like, "We want to bring a revolutionary intersectional out of our own lives and experiences and issues. We want to create a disability movement that's for us and by us that's not just white, single issue, often cis, often male, often straight." Like, we want to talk about the fact that 50% of bipoc folks who were killed by the cops are also disabled, deaf, neurodivergent, etc... just to give one example. So, you know, that was '05 in Oakland, you know, Patti Burn, LeRoy Moore, Stacy Milbern, Ely Claire, Sebastian Margaret, Stacey Milbern Park, you know, the six. And I was living in Toronto and I moved to Oakland in '07 and I was kind of around for some of the beginnings of it. There's two stories I want to bring in. One actually predates my move. It was right when I was getting ready to leave Toronto, I got invited to go to this reading by a bunch of queer--I think all white--disabled radical folks. And I was just like, "Oh?" And I did the whole, like, "Am I really disabled enough?" and then it was like, "Oh, it's gonna be really depressing." And then it was really awesome. And I was like, "Whoa, disability community. Life saving." But it was kind of one of my moments of being brought into the disability community because there was this writer who was there who, their reading series was actually a choose your own adventure where there's four disabled, queer, and trans folks who are having a sex party and the zombie apocalypse happens. And then they have to figure out how to survive it without abandoning each other. And it was all like, "Okay, you all get to the van, but then there's no ramp. What do you do? Oh! You get this accessible ramp, but it smells like perfume and somebody has NCS. What do you do? And I was just sitting there with my mouth open--and it was also interwoven with like, 'Yeah, and then somebody's fucking somebody else with like, you know, a dildo strapped to their prosthetic,'" and I was like, wow, I fucking love disability. Like, sign me up. But I gotta say briefly, that was one of my first examples of like, you know, there's a really important phrase in Disability Justice, which is, "No one left behind, " right? Like, that's one of the core organizing principles. And that was kind of.... Before I even heard that phrase, I was like, "Fuck like this is..."--because I'd been around antiauthoritarian, quasi prepper, like "shit's gonna happen, we have to get ready." But I was always kind of quiet in the corner closeting my disability being like, "Well, shit, like, what if I don't have my meds? Or what if I'm too.... What if I can't run away from, you know, the Nazis or the zombies because I have a limp and I walk with a cane? Like, what if?" And that was my first example of this cross disability fantasy space of like, "We're going to escape together and we're not going to let anyone get eaten and it's going to mean really being creative about access stuff." Okay so jump ahead to, right, then I moved to Oakland and then I ran into actual Disability Justice community through Sins Invalid, which is an incredibly important foundational Disability Justice group, and through a lot of friendships I started making with other QTBIPOC disabled folks and my really, really good friend Stacy Park Milbern, who, people should totally know her work. She's incredible. She was one of the best movement organizers that the movement has ever seen. And we met online. And she was living in Fort Bragg, North Carolina with her family on the base because her family's military. And she was a queer southern, working-class, Korean and white, you know, physically disabled organizer from when she was really young. And then she was like, "Okay, I love my family, but I'm literally hiding my gay books in the wall because my mom's Pentecostal." So, yeah, and she's like--I literally realized she tells the story a lot--she's like, "Yeah, like, I realized I hadn't really left the house for a couple months and like, this is gonna be it," and she's like, "I was literally watching Oprah. And Oprah said, 'No one's coming to save you.'" And she was like, okay. She's 21 years old. And then through online, disabled, queer of color community there was this--or she organized--this initiative called To the Other Side of Dreaming where she moved crosscountry with Mia Mingus, who's another queer Korean organizer who was a friend of hers, ad moved to the Bay Area. And so that was around 2010-2011. And then in 2011, what happens but the Fukushima nuclear accident, right, disaster? And we're all on the West Coast--and it's completely ridiculous bullshit, looking back on it now--but all of these Bay Area folks were like, "Oh my God! Radiation!" And some people pointed out, "Look, you know, we're not.... There's...it's a big ocean. The people who really have to worry are in Japan and areas around it, so whatever?" But it was one of those times where we were like, fuck, this is a really big nuclear accident and we are sort of close and it's making us think about disaster. And I remember just going to fucking Berkeley Bowl, which is this big, fancy, organic supermarket and people had bought out all of the burdock all the fucking seaweed. And I was like, "Oh, my God, these people." But out of that, Stacy started having conver--and I and other people who were in our organizing network of disabled, majority BIPOC--were like, "What are we going to as disabled BIPOC if there is an earthquake, fascism, like another big disaster? And Stacy said, really bluntly, she's like, "You know," and she was a power wheelchair user. She used a ventilator. You know, she's like, "Yeah, I am supported by electricity and battery dependent access equipment." And she's like, "Well, I'm going to be really honest, my plan has always been, if something happens, I'm just going to lay down in my bed and die, because I don't think that any emergency services are going to come save me and the power is going to run out in 48 hours. And then we were like, "Okay, that's super real. What if, through our amazing collective access stuff we're doing, we could figure out something else?" And we had this meeting at Arismendy bakery, which for folks who know, is like a worker owned co-op chain, Our friend Remedios worked there. It's wheelchair accessible. We met there after hours. And it was just like, 12-15 of us who started just sitting there and being like, "What are the resources we have? What are the needs we have? And we made this map, which I still have, which I think I shared with you, which is just like, "Apocalypse, South Berkeley/Oakland Map 2011," where we were like, "Okay, you know, when the power goes down, the communication goes down. We're gonna meet at this one traffic circle because people who are wheelchair users can roll up. And we're gonna bury note paper in a mason jar with pens and we're gonna leave notes for each other. But we're also going to agree to meet there the day after at noon." And I was like, okay, my collective house, the first floor is wheelchair accessible. We have solar, we have a landline. And we have a lot of space. So like, let's meet there. And then someone was like, "We've got the one accessible van. And we know, it's only supposed to fit 4 people, but we can fit like 12 in there." And we started.... Like, I just think about that a lot because it's, I think it was a really important moment where it was important...the stuff that we did like that--you know, the actual strategies and the resources we started talking about--but it was also that it was the first time in my life that I was like, "Okay, we're not--not only are we not going to just die alone in our beds, I'm also not going to be the one person who survives. Like, I can actually survive with, and because of, other people. And we're all disabled BIPOC with a couple of disabled white folks. And we can actually collectively strategize around that. And this will be my last leap forward, because I see that you're like, "I want to ask you stuff." So, you know, eight years go by, and in that time we all do an incredible amount of Disability Justice organizing and strategizing. And, you know, in 2019.... And a lot of it started to be around climate disaster on the West Coast. Like, I moved to Seattle in 2015. The wildfires started being really bad a year or two later. A lot of us were involved in mask distributions, just spreading information about smoke safety and survival. And then 2019 was the infamous year where the wildfires came back and Pacific Gas and Electric, in all of its fucking glory, which is the main--for people who don't know--it's the main utility electrical company in Northern California. They announced two days before wildfires were going to really impact the Bay, they were like, "Oh, so we've decided that our strategy is going to be that we're just going to shut down all the power in Northern California. **Margaret ** 14:52 No one uses that. [Sardonically] **Leah ** 14:53 No one uses that. And they're like, "Oh, if you have a medical need, call this number, and we'll make sure to leave it on at your house." and Stacey was, "Okay." She had just bought her house, the Disability Justice Culture Club in East Oakland, you know, which was her house but also a community center, de facto community center, that housed a lot of disabled folks of color. And she was like, "I was on the fucking phone for eight hours. Like, I never got through." And she and some comrades started this campaign called Power to Live where they were like.... It started out as, "Okay, we can't save everybody, but we're not going to just lay down and die. What do we do?" So it started out as like, okay, let's identify who has housing that still has power. There's some people in Richmond, there's some people in this neighborhood, but then it also developed into this thing where it was just this amazing crowdsource survivalist resource where it was everything from, she's like, "Here's a number. Here's an email. If you need something, text us, call us, email us. We have a team of eight people. We'll figure it out. If you have something to offer, do it too." And then some of it was that people were sharing everything from generator information, to generator shares, to people in different areas-- like I was in Seattle and we were like, "Okay, we will mail you generators and air purifiers, because it's obviously all sold out in the Bay, but we can get it here and get it to you." The thing that always stands out to me is people being like, "Oh, yeah, here's how you can use dry ice and clay pots to keep your insulin cold if refrigeration goes down." And there's a lot more I could say about that action and how amazing it was. But for me, when I think about the through line, I'm like, that moment in 2011, when we all got together, and were like, "What do we do?" we were prepping for what we couldn't fully predict, you know, the exact manifestation of eight years later. We're there and we're like, "Okay, there's wildfires, there's smoke, there's no fucking power, and we've not only built our organizing base, we built our relationships with each other so that we can actually trust each other and more or less know how to work together when this shit actually is hitting the fan to create something that's really life giving. Okay, I'll shut up. That was a lot. **Margaret ** 16:52 Now I have so many questions about all of it. **Leah ** 16:53 Yeah, ask me all the questions. **Margaret ** 16:55 Because there's a couple...there's a couple of questions and/or feedback that we get with Live Like, the World is Dying a lot. And some of them are very specifically disability related, and you covered most of them, but I want to highlight some of them. Like a lot of people write and are like, "Well, I rely on the following thing that is provided by civilization. So my plan is to lay down and die." Right? This is a--and I know you've kind of answered it--but I.... I want to ask more. Okay, I'll go through all the things. Okay. So to talk more about what "No One Left Behind," means? And then the other thing that really stands out to me is that, you know, when we were talking, when we were talking about what we were going to talk about on this on this episode, I was saying, okay, we can talk about, you know, making sure that preparedness is inclusive and open and includes disabled folks, or whatever, and you pointed out, really usefully, the, the necessity to reframe it. And I think that the story you just gave is a really beautiful example of this, where it's less about, like, "Hey, make sure to pay attention to the people who need canes," you know, or whatever, right? Like, you know, "make sure you keep track of folks based on disability." And more than like the thing you just described, is the thing that we're always trying to push, which is that you need to make a list of all the resources and needs within your community and then figure out how to meet those needs and instead of assuming that we can't meet those needs, figuring out how to actually do it. And so I love that it's actually like.... It's actually disability justice movements that we should be learning from, I mean, or participating in, depending on our level of ability, or whatever, but I just find that I find both of those things really interesting. And so I wonder if you have more that you want to say about alternatives to laying down and dying, and specifically, to tie into the other thing that I get asked the most or that I get the common feedback is--because we talk a lot about the importance of community for preparedness on this show--a lot of people don't feel like they have community and a lot of people write to be like, "I don't have any friends," or "I don't know any other people like me," or, you know. And so, I guess that's my main question is how do.... [Trails off] Yeah, how do? **Leah ** 19:22 So how do you make community when you don't have community? Alternatives to lying down and dying? And was there a third one in there? **Margaret ** 19:28 I was just highlighting how cool it is that y'all sat there and made a list of resources and needs, which is exactly what.... Instead of deciding things are impossible, just being like, "Well, let's just start doing them." You know? **Leah ** 19:40 And I think.... Okay, so I'll start there. Like I think that like.... You know, Corbit O'Toole, who's like a, you know, Disability Rights Movement veteran and like older Irish, disabled dyke, you know, in Crip Camp, the movie, she's like, "Disabled people live all the time with the knowledge that the society wants thinks we're better off dead," right? Like one...back in the day, you know, there's a--I think they're still active--one of the big Disability Rights direct action organizations was called Not Dead Yet, right? [Margaret Hell Yeahs] I think this is the thing is like I think that sometimes abled people or neurotypical people are not used to sitting down and making the list. And I think that even if disabled people aren't preppers, we're used to being like, "Okay, what do I need? Fuck, I need somebody to help me do my dishes. Oh, I can't bend over. I need to figure out what is the access tool that will allow me to pick up something from the floor when my that goes out? Like, if my attendant doesn't show up, can I have a..." You know, like, my friends always like, "Yeah, I've got a yogurt container by the bed in case my attendant doesn't show up so I can not piss the bed. I can lean over and piss in the yogurt container." Like there's a--and I think that.... God, I mean, there's been so many times over the years where I've done or been a part of doing like Disability Justice 101 and me and Stacy would always talk about crip wisdom and crip innovation and people will just look blank like "What are you talking about? You guys are just a bunch of sad orphans at the telethon." It's not just about making the list, it's also about how disabled disability forces you to be innovative. Like, Stacy would always share this story where she's like, "Yeah," like, she's like "Crip innovation is everything from," she's like, "I save a lot of time sometimes by pretending I can't talk when people come over and want to pray over me. You know, I just act like a mute and they fucking leave and they go on with their life," and she's like, "You know, I realized one day, if I took my sneakers off, I could ramp a step if it's just two steps. I could just put them there and I could roll up." Or I mean, there's a million examples.... Or like, because I think it's about prepping and about making the lists and it's also about whatever you prep for, there's always going to be the X Factor of "Oh, we didn't fucking expect that." And I think that's where a lot of prep falls apart is people have their "Dream Bunker." They're like, "Oh, okay, I know exactly what the threats are going to be." And then of course, it doesn't fucking happen that way. I really hope I can swear on your show. **Margaret ** 21:46 You can. Don't worry. **Leah ** 21:47 Great. So, I mean, one example I could give is I'm remembering at, you know, a Sins show when we were in rehearsal, where everyone drove over from Oakland in Patty's wheelchair accessible van, and then the ramp broken wouldn't unfold. So we just were like, alright, who do we know who has welding equipment? Who do we know has lumber? Like, I think we ended up going to a bike repair shop and then they had tools. And then we're like, okay, we'll just bring the rehearsal into the van and do it that way. Like, you have to be innovative. And that's a muscle that I think society doesn't teach you to flex and that often, I think that even people who.... I think there can be a lot of eugenics in prep, you know, whether people are overtly fascist or not, there's a real belief of like, "Oh, only the strong and smart," --which looks a certain way-- "survive," and that "We should use rational thinking to make it all work out." And I think a lot of crip intelligence or wisdom is actually knowing that shit can go sideways 48 different ways and you have to adapt. And you have to just kind of be like, "Well, let's try this." So I think that's one thing. And I think, you know, one thing I'll say is, yeah, just speaking to kind of the reframing we were talking about, I think it's less like, "Oh, remember the people with canes," but, I mean, that's good, but also knowing that we're already doing it and that abled people actually have a shit ton to learn from us. But also, I mean, something.... I mean, the title of my last book is "The Future is Disabled," and it comes from something--it's not unique thinking to me--it's something that a lot of disabled people have been thinking and saying throughout the pandemic is that we were already at like a 30% disabled world minimum and we're pretty close--we're probably at majority disabled right now. Because what, 2% of the world didn't get Covid? Like, how many people have Long Covid? How many people have complex PTSD? We're all sick, crazy, and, you know, needing access equipment. Disability is not out there. It's in here. Like there's no such thing as doing prep that's like, "Oh, only the three Uber Mensch are gonna survive." Like fuck that. And that actually--I mean, sorry, this might be a side note, but a lot of people have probably seen The Last of Us. And I'm just gonna SPOILER ALERT it. You know that famous episode three of those two gay bear preppers in love? Yeah, I loved a lot about it. I was so pissed at the ending, which I'm just going to spoil. So you know, the more artsy, non-prep guy....[interrupted] **Margaret ** 21:47 Yeah, they don't survive. **Leah ** 22:47 Well, no, but like, not only did they not survive but one of them gets chronically ill. And I was just like, grinding my teeth because it's like, "Oh, he's in a wheelchair. Oh, his hand tremors." And then they end up deciding to both kill themselves rather than do anything else. And I was so furious at it because I was like, these are two people who are so innovative. They have figured out all kinds of problem solving. They have an entire small city for themselves. And it's all like, "Oh, no, he can't get up the stairs." And I'm like, really? There was no accessible ranch house you couldn't of fucking moved to? **Margaret ** 24:38 Or like build a bedroom on the fucking ground floor. **Leah ** 24:40 Or youcouldn't get meds? You couldn't? I mean, when his hand was shaking, it was like, "Oh, it's so sad. He's being fed." I'm like, there's tons.... First of all, it doesn't suck to be fed. A lot of things that seem like a fate worse than death are not when you're in them. And also, there's like all kinds of adaptive utensils that they could have fucking raided from medical supply if he wants to feed himself. Or I'm sorry, there's no cans of Ensure? They absolutely have power. They couldn't have made smoothies? Like, what the fuck is this? But beyond that--and I think that a lot of people who have talked about that episode did, I think, have some good analysis of it where, you know, the whole way they set up their prep was they were like, "Oh, it's just the two of us," and the one super prepper guy was like, "I don't even want friends to come over." And the other guy was like, "Hey, actually, we need to make alliances because there's things they have that we don't. And we also need more than just the two of us because I love you, but I'm gonna kill you." And I think that's something to think about is really moving away from the idea that just your little you know, the utopic queer rural community that so many fucking city queers fantasize about or, you know, lover are going to be enough, because it's not. So that actually leads me to, "I don't have community. Where the fuck do I get it?" And I'm like, yeah, that's super real. Right? And I think it's something I actually wrote about in "The Future is Disabled" is that I have people be like--when I write about different crip communities, just even when I talk about stuff on Facebook.... Like my friend, Graham Bach, it's going to be his second year death anniversary in like two weeks, and he was like, you know, white, psychiatric survivor, super poor, amazing sweetheart of a human being, he died.... I mean, he died in his, you know, rent to your income apartment because he was really afraid to go to the hospital and he had cardiac stuff going on. And he was an anarchist, he was amazing, kind, complicated human being. And, I was writing about, like.... I'm going to tell the story and there's a couple things I want to pull out of it. So I was writing about meeting Graham when I was in my early 20s through radical Mad people community, and somebody was reading it and was like "That sounds so great." And I was like, "Yeah, it wasn't utopic. Like, I had to yell back at Graham because he would scream at me and I'd be like, "Shut the fuck up!" Like, there was so many fights. There was so much racism. There were so many older white cis dudes who had electroshock who were jerky or gross, you know? And I guess that was the thing is, I was like, they're like, "Well, how did you find each other?" And I was like, it wasn't perfect. Also, it was very analog working class. Like my friend Lilith Finkler, who is an amazing Moroccan, Jewish, working-class queer femme psych survivor, she would just go to the donut shop where everybody poor hung out and would talk to everybody who wass there who wass crazy who no one wanted to talk to and be like, "Hey, do you want to come hang out at this meeting at the fucking legal clinic? We have a room. We have a snack plate. I'll give you tokens. Let's organize." So I think that's the first thing is that it's not--and I don't mean this in a finger-wagging way--it's not automatic. And also, one of the really big ways that community is often ableist, and that a lot of us get cut out from it, is that a lot of us who need it the most are not particularly easy to love in ableist neurotypical worldview. It's like we're cranky, we're wounded, we're in a bad mood, we're weird. So a lot of the time, I think it's thinking about, first of all, what's one step, one move you can take towards it. Like, can you make one fucking acquaintance and build it. And really think about what it would mean to build some kind of relationship. I think the other thing that I really want to highlight is that a lot of the communities that I see that keep each other alive, that I'm lucky to have been a part of making and being supported by in disabled community, they're not static and they're not perfect. Like, I have networks with people who piss me the fuck off and who, you know, I've sent 20 bucks to people who I'm just like, "I really don't like you, but I can see that you really don't have food," you know, and we're not going to be friends and we're not going to like each other, but I don't want you to die. And that's not...I mean, it's bigger.... There's also people who I'm like, "Okay, you're my ex-abuser. I'm not gonna give you $5. Someone else can give you $5. **Margaret ** 28:42 There's this person who puts a lot of their effort into talking shit on me on the internet and I...they're also broke and have a lot of chronic health issues and I send them money every month. And every now and then I'm like, could this like...could you stop talking shit now? **Leah ** 29:03 I think this is the thing sometimes is like, hey, how about this is the deal, like maybe just say "Thank you," or maybe just talk shit even like 20% less? Because you know, I'm really doing we keep us safe here. I just really want a "thank you." **Margaret ** 29:16 I don't want you to die. Like, I don't want you to starve to death, but I really wish you would be a little bit more open minded to people having different opinions on yours. **Leah ** 29:26 Oh yeah, nuance, right? Yeah, it'd be fucking nice. **Margaret ** 29:29 God forbid. Anyway. **Leah ** 29:31 No, it's good. I guess my TLDR would be to start where you are and start with "what's one thing you can do? What's one person you can reach out to?" And I think, you know, I don't know if this is true for everyone who reaches out to you and it's like, "Well, I don't have anybody," but I think that social media and online connectivity is a real double-edged sword because for some of us who are isolated, it can create both online communities that can sometimes become in-real-life community and, either way, can be sources of some community or support. But I think.... I mean, you know, I'm a Generation X'er and I've just seen social media get more and more chokehold and just turn into fucking the panopticon meets a mall, you know? [Margaret laughs] And I think it's hard because 12 years ago I was part of really early online disabled spaces, which were great because so many people were like, "Well, I'm so isolated in my small town or in my city," or "I can't leave bed, but this is great. I'm meeting with other people and we're building these connections and it's actually more accessible for me to be real about my stuff from like my bed with a heating pad." And now I just think it's so chokeholded that it's hard for us to find each other. So it's much more common for people to be like, "Wow, I'm seeing all these people who have millions of followers and a shiny brand and I just feel like even more of an isolated loser." And then at the same time, I think people are like, "Well, how did people meet each other before this?" And I was like, "Yeah, like, you go to the coffee shop or the donut shop. You put up a flier. You go to the library. You like, I don't know. I mean, I just remember people I met on the food stamps line, you know, when we got there at six in the morning. And not everything's gonna stick, but maybe something sticks. And I also think about like, I'm going back to 13 years ago in early Disability Justice community spaces where--I mean, I think back to [untranslatable] when I went back to Toronto--which, yeah, big city--but I remember I had so many people come to me and be like, "You're..."--because I was starting to be more out about disability, cuz I was like, "I'm in the Bay and there's these wild people who talk about it and they're not all white people." and so I have so many, especially Black and brown disabled femmes be like, "Hi, you don't really know me, but I have fibromyalgia too," or "I have Lupus too. And like, no one I know talks about that. How do you do it?" And I'm specifically thinking about this time that this person I'm no longer in touch with--but we used to be friends--who's like, you know, queer, brown nonbinary person was like, "Let's just have a meet up of other chronically ill femmes of color," which is how we were identifying a time, and it was four of us, four heating pads, a bottle of Advil, and just very tentatively starting to share things about our lives. And I was like, "Yeah, that was four people." But a lot of that hang out then rippled outward. And it was like, I think it's also important to be like, it's scary to build community. Some tools I want to shut out like, so Mia Mingus, who I mentioned before, she has a lot of really great writing on her blog Leaving Evidence and she created this tool a long time ago now--that some people might be familiar with but for folks who aren't--it's, you know, it's her tool that she calls Pod Mapping. And she actually created it as part of a collective she founded called the Bay Area Transformative Justice Collective that was working on doing transformative justice interventions into intimate violence, specifically childhood sexual abuse a lot of the time, and she had this framework that I find really helpful. She's like, "A lot of..." she was talking about in community accountability, transformative justice spaces and she made a really good point where she's like, "Sometimes we talk about like, 'Yeah, bring in the community. Like, everyone has a community.'" And she's like, "Most people don't have a fucking community, let alone one that can interview in childhood sexual abuse." So she created this tool where she's like, "Let's broaden the idea of what community is." Like, maybe it's that one cousin, that you only talk to once a year, but you could call them in a jam, or it's this hotline, or it is like, yeah, they're a weird church, but you really like their food banks. She's like, "You have to really bring in.... Like, start where you are and do the resource mapping we were talking about" I really liked that tool a lot as a place for people who are like, "What's my community?" because I think it's a big word and really being like, "What does that even mean to me?" and like, "What's one place that can start building it?" And I also want to shout out, Rebel Sydney Black, who's a friend of mine who passed this June, at the beginning of the pandemic, he created this tool called Pod Mapping for Mutual Aid that was specifically aimed at disabled folks who were trying to pod map during Covid--and we can provide the link and stuff like that--but I would say that those are two places to start and then I want to get to alternatives to lying down and dying. And then I'll stop. **Margaret ** 34:04 Okay, wait, wait, before we get to that I want to talk more about the building community thing. **Leah ** 34:08 Yeah, please. **Margaret ** 34:09 I think you brought up a lot of really interesting points. And one of the things that I really like about it, you know, talking about having like...you're broadening the idea of what counts as community, which I think is really useful. And one of the things I realized is that a lot of times when I was younger, I was like, "Y'all say 'community' and you just mean the people that you like," right? And that didn't make any sense to me. Community seems like the people where you have a shared interest, whether the shared interest is you live on the same block, or whether the shared interest is an identity, or whether the shared interest is an interest that you're trying to see change, or whatever. It doesn't mean people you like. It's a different thing. Friends are the people I like, right? Well, mostly. I'm just kidding. I love all of you. I mean, there's a lot of people I love that I don't always like. Anyway, so I don't know, and so I think that one of the things that stuck out with me about what you're gonna say and I want to highlight is the idea that--or maybe I'm misreading it--but like "pick issue to work" around seems like a good useful way. Especially if you struggle to just have friends, right? That's not like the thing that you're good at. But maybe there's a thing that you want to work on? Or having that meetup where it's like, oh, all the following people who have the following things in common, let's meet up and talk about it. Or honestly, activism is a really good way to meet people and work closely with people about things. And it doesn't necessarily have to mean these are now your friends. But they can be people where you rely on each other. And that doesn't have to be the same. I think about it a lot because I live in a fairly isolated and rural environment where there's not a lot of people around me who are culturally.... Whatever, there's not a lot of out, queer people where I live. There's not a lot of punks. And I'm like, that's okay. I talk to my actual neighbors instead. I mean, some of them, not all of them, but most of them, you know, they're who I would rely on in a crisis, because they're right there. It doesn't mean that we have the same ideas about a lot of stuff, you know? But we have similar ideas, like, "Let's not die," right? And so that's enough sometimes. Anyway, I just wanted to.... **Leah ** 36:12 No, I really appreciate it. And I mean that makes me kind of think about, when you were talking, I was like, yeah, you know, there's friends, there's communities, and then there's survival networks, which can include contacts, right? Because I just think about what would I do right now, if some should happened? And I was like, I've got long distance kin and long term friendships and relationships ofvarious kinds and I also have--because I moved to where I live, which is like semi-rural, but definitely more rural than where I've lived before--and I'm just like, yeah, I have a small number of friends. But there's like people who I know who I can...who are neighbors who like, maybe we don't know a shit ton about each other but I could be like, "Hey, this thing?" or "Hey, do you have water?" or, "Hey, let's do this." I think it's a lot about thinking about what are your goals? Is your goal intimacy? Is your goal survival? Is your goal friendship? Because you need different levels of trust and commonality depending on those things, right? I also think, and this is the thing too, I think something.... I think a lot of times because I've had people be like, "Well, I don't have community," also, I've heard that. And I think that a lot of times the context, I hear it in is people being like, "Well, I have care needs, but I don't have any community." So then there's also the really big thorny question of "need" and like being cared for is actually very complicated. It's very risky. It's very vulnerable. It's not safe a lot of the time. It may feel a lot easier to just be like, "I don't have any fucking needs." And so there's a lot, I will just say that there's a lot of unpacking that needs to do around like, "What would I need to be cared for? What are my lower risk needs that I need help with? What are my higher risk needs?" right? Like, there's people who I can.... There's some needs I have where I'm like, I don't need to trust you super, super deep politically or on an intimate level to let you do that. There are certain needs where I'm like, that's only going to be people where we've really built a lot of fucking trust because if this goes sideways you could really stuck with me. Right? And I think that when you're starting from nowhere, I think often where people get stuck is like, "Where I am feels like I have nobody and nothing. And I want to get to like the thing I've read about in your topic science fiction, where you know, it's Star Hawk and everybody loves each other. And how the fuck do I get from A to B." And I think the solution is like, yeah, you're not gonna get to fucking "Fifth Sacred Thing" right away--and that book is complicated. **Margaret ** 38:29 Yeah, It was very influential on my early.... **Leah ** 38:31 Oh yeah, when I was 18, I just wanted to fucking move there. And now I'm like, "Oh God, this is embarrassing. There's some shit in here." I'm like, "Wow, everybody's mixed race, but everyone's Black parents are dead." Wow. Cool. Nobody really thinks about race. I'm like, I'm gonna throw up. And like, you know, BDSM is just violent....Okay, sorry. We're not going to get into that. **Margaret ** 38:47 Oh my God, I don't remember that part. **Leah ** 38:49 Oh, yeah. No, where it's so violent. Like, "We're just loving." And I wrote a really no passion paper for school, because we actually had to read it in a college class I was in, and I was like, "Why are they not into leather sexuality?" And my professor was like, "Okay, 18 year old..." but yeah. **Margaret ** 39:04 I mean, legit. You 18 year old self had a legitimate critique. **Margaret ** 39:08 Yeah. **Leah ** 39:08 Yeah, no, there's a lot there. But, um, but jumping back, I guess it's just like, you know.... And I think this feels like disabled wisdom too, it's like, what can you do with the spoons or the capacity you have? Like, what's one move you can make that small? And then can you build on that? Yeah, but can I talk about alternatives to lying down and dying? **Leah ** 39:28 Yeah. Well, I think...I mean, this is the thing, is like, I'm a survivalist, but I'm not like anti-civilization in the ways that some people are. Like, I want meds, you know? And I think that's something that other crips I know talk about a lot, which is like, you know, we're really against this way that some people, including some people who would like align themselves with like Healing Justice who are like "We're like, oh, yeah, we just have to go back before colonialism and capitalism, and just everyone lived on herbs and it was great." and I was like, "Nah, bitch, I need surgery and meds." Like I want it all. Like, I love non-Western pre-colonial traditional healing. Absolutely. And I've had friends who died because they didn't get their surgeries on time. Like my friend LL died because nobody would give him a fucking kidney because they said he was too fat. And I'm just like, my good future involves.... I mean, and he's one of millions right? So like, my good future involves that we have surgical suites. And I'm just like, you know, honestly, also, a lot of times that worldview just seems so white to me, because I'm just like, listen, a lot of like, global south places figure out how to have field hospitals, right, in really dire and low-resource situations. So I'm sorry.... **Margaret ** 40:40 I mean, only Europoe's ever figured out surgery. No one else has done surgery until Europe showed up. [Said sarcastically implying the opposite] **Leah ** 40:45 Yeah, not fucking ever. [Also said sarcastically] **Margaret ** 40:46 Said the people who are like, "bite down stick and I'll saw your arm off." **Leah ** 40:49 Yeah, so I mean, I guess one thing I would just say is like, I would say that and I would say like, you know, really...I want to like lift up and encourage people to look at--and they can be hard to find--but look at cultures, look at organizing initiatives where people were like, "We can have our own ambulance, we can have our own like..." And when that's not there, to think about what it would mean to have medical care after the apocalypse, right? What would it mean to make hormones, make drugs, synthesize chemicals, and it's not impossible. I think that we're still in the in between of like, okay, we gotta figure out how to do that. But, um, you know, I'm thinking about, Ejeris Dixon, who's my friend and comrade, and, you know, we co-edited "Beyond Survival" together, which is a book we wrote that came out right at the beginning of the pandemic about stories and strategies from how people are actually trying to create safety without the cops. Ejeris always talks about how they were like, "Yeah, like, in Louisiana, you know, in the South, you know, like in the 50s, and 60s, and before I believe, there were all kinds of Black run ambulance and 911 services," because regular 911 wouldn't come to Black communities. Right? And they, I mean, something that I've heard them say a lot over the years is like, "We don't have the people's ambulance yet. But we could." And then it makes me also jump to some friends of mine who were in Seattle who were really active as street medic crew during the rebellions after George George Floyd was murdered by the police in, you know, 2020 in the summer, and specifically in, as some people remember, Seattle managed to have 16 square blocks break off from the city for a while, CHOP, Capitol Hill Organized Front. And so what people don't know is that the cops were like, "Okay, fuck you. We're not going to...If there's any 911 ambulance calls, we're not going to fucking let anyone go in there." So the street medic crew had to deal with a lot of really intense situations. And then after that, like a lot of us folks, like some folks were already nurses or EMTs and a lot of folks who were involved went to nursing school or EMT school and we're like--and I don't know where it's at now--but they were like, "We want to create,"--because right now in Seattle, there's, if somebody is having a crisis on the street, like a medical or a mental health crisis or an altered state crisis, there's no non-911 crisis response that you can call. There's either you go down the stairs to talk to somebody or there's the cops, right. And they were like, "We can get a van. We can get medical equipment from eBay." And you know, I don't know where they're at with that, but they were really organizing around like, "Yeah, we could get a defibrillator. We could get oxygen. We could get blood pressure cuffs. We could get fucking..." you know? And I think that that shit gets complicated in terms of insurance and regulation and the State and the medical industrial complex, but I want us to keep thinking about that. I also, and then I'll wrap up because we have other questions to get to, but it also makes me think about, I mean, I don't know if folks are familiar with Gretchen Felker Martin's amazing science fiction book "Manhunt," right, which is about.... **Margaret ** 43:50 I haven't read it yet. **Leah ** 43:52 It's so fucking good. Okay, so I won't give it away. But just for people who don't know, I'd say it's the one kind of gender sci-fi book where "Oh, a virus, you know, affects people with certain chromosomes or certain that dih-dah-dug that's not TERFy because it's a book that, you know, she's trans, and it's a book that centers trans women and nonbinary communities and there's like one or two trans masculine characters. But the two main trans femme, like trans women characters in the book, they're like, they have to, they're like, "Yeah, like, we're going on raids to get, you know, hormones, and, you know, different, like chemical drugs we need. And we're also figuring out how to synthesize them from herbs and different substances." And it's not easy. It's a struggle. But there are organized communities of trans women and allies that are fighting to do it. And I'm just like, yeah, and I mean, it's an amazingly well written book, and she's incredible, and I fucking loved it. And it's just beautifully written and really just--sorry, I won't gush too much but go read it, it's incredible--I just really also appreciated it because she was like, "Yeah, of course we're gonna get our hormones after the end of the world. Like of course it's possible." And I will also.... I have some criticisms of the ableism in it, but M.E. O'Brien and--fuck I'm forgetting the second author's name, but every you know, "Everything For Everyone," that book. I appreciated how in the good future society, they're like, "Our priority is making sure that insulin and chemical drugs and hormones are accessible and free to everybody." And I was like, I guess I would just push people towards there are ways of imagining the future where we can defeat capitalism but still have medical care of all kinds. We can have Reiki and acupuncture and we can also hormone surgery and transplants. And we might be doing it better because it's not controlled by fucking corporations and assholes. Sorry, that's my soapbox. Um, okay. I will say in terms of people being like, "That's really nice. But what about me?" I would be like, you know, I mean, right now in the war on trans America, there are so many people already who are like, "Yeah, I'm stockpiling meds. I like doing meds trading." I would say it goes back to what we started about, which is like, "Okay, what are your needs? What are the things that you're worried will not be there if the world ends?" Right? And we also need to recognize that the world's already ending and it's ended for some of us a bunch of times already. But I would be like, make that list and then really be like, "Alright, how do I get it?" You know, and if I can't specifically get it, are there like backups that I can get? And it may be stuff that you can research on your own. It also might be stuff where it's like, "Okay, are there trans [untranslatable], disability justice organizations, nationally, globally, locally, that you can hit up and be like, "What are folks thoughts about this? Are there ways that we can resource share?" Because I think it's about pills. I think it's also about durable medical equipment. So in terms of stuff that requires power to live, I think about generators and I think about generator shares. And I think about things like...there's a story when Hurricane Sandy hit New York 10 years ago, there were a whole bunch of us where...there's a guy Nick who's in community who, physically disabled guy, 13th floor, accessible apartment, you know, the lights went out, you know, really dependent on electricity to change out the batteries on his ventilator. There's a whole crew of disabled folks, like people walked up and down those fucking stairs every eight hours to take the spent batteries, figured out, "Hey, you know, what still has power, the fucking fire department." People were walking down recharging the batteries every eight hours. And it was allies, it was ambulatory, it was disabled people who could walk. It was fucking hard. But people were like, we're not.... Nick and his friends were like, "We're not just going to die. We're needed." So I wanna shoutout that and just for possibility modeling, I really want to, one other place I want to shout out, is an org that used to be known as Portlight but was now known as the Center for Inclusive Disaster Strategies, which is a disabled-led organization that is about like, yeah, when there's a climate or other disaster, they figure out ways of getting like accessible fucking evacuation methods to places because they know...we know, there's millions of examples of people who are just left to die in nursing homes or like, "Oops, the bus doesn't have a ramp," or, you know, I really want to name that during Katrina, some people might know about, you know, the situation with the nursing home that was there were a lot of folks who were wheelchair users or had high care needs were fucking killed by medical staff because the medical staff were like, "We're gonna actually euthanize these folks without their knowledge or consent." [Margaret exclaims] Yeah, no, there was actually a movie on HBO about it I think semi recently. Because "that's easier than figuring out how to fucking get people in the medivac ," right? Yeah, and so the Partnership for Inclusive Disaster Strategies, I'm still getting to know them, but I have friends who are involved and they're like, "Yeah, we're aware this is an issue." So yeah, let's work with the fucking Cajun fucking Navy to like make sure that you can get folks with different bodies onto evac boats. Like let's figure out what disabled survival looks like. And I will just say, and this is the last thing I swear, for me, I mean, we all know water is important. Like, I can't lift 54 pounds. Guess what? So can't--which is, you know, a seven gallon right, like a five or seven gallon whatever--I'm just like, yeah, so I can actually have smaller jugs of water that I can lift. So yeah, I have a bug out plan, but I also have a real Shelter in Place plan because I'm just like, yeah, my apartment's accessible for me. So yeah, I got a shit ton of water right here and I'll be good for a while. And I also have a plan B for.... Okay, there's...I've got my filtration equipment, so when that runs out, I'm close to some water sources where I can go and I can filter that shit. And that's me thinking about what works for my body. Think about what works for yours and then plan out from that. Okay, I'll really stop talking now. **Margaret ** 49:44 No, no, but there's so much there. Even just like to go to the weight of water, right? The thing that I ran across that I'm like--I'm reasonably able-bodied and such like that, right--but I live alone and so obviously there's this specific thing where like.... Well, one, I mean, abledness is always a temporary position.... **Leah ** 50:04 Yeah, you're going to get disabled, you're gonna get sick and disabled. **Margaret ** 50:07 Like it literally happens to--unless you, I don't know, die very quickly, very suddenly, probably violently, you're gonna go through a period of disability in your life, you know? And so my argument is that machismo is anti-prepping. And one of the ways that I would say is that like, there's now, I think.... Okay, so cement bags, they come in 50 pound bags traditionally, right? But now there's more and more, I think, there seems to be more and more 30 pound bags, right? And I used to be like, "Oh, whatever, I can lift a 50 pound bag. So I should carry the 50 pound bag." And then I'm like, well, it was not a helpful way to look at it. It is far better for me to just have 30 pound bags of cement because they're easier to carry and I'll get tired less. And I, you know, at the time that I was pouring these bags, I lived up a hill about probably the equivalent of a seven storey walk up to this cabin that I was building, right. And so I had to carry each and every one. It was way nicer that I carry 30 pound bags. And if your preparedness doesn't include the fact that your level of ability will change in different situations, then it's not very good preparedness. And and so like, I don't know, I mean, like most of my water jugs are four or five gallon jugs. I use jerry cans. I think most of them are five gallon. And I hate the six gallon ones and the seven gallon ones. They're just heavy and annoying. And it's like I can give lift them but there's no reason why I should. Unless I'm specifically working on lifting weights. And then the other thing that you talked about that I really think about a lot, you know, is this idea, of does your version of disaster mean that every doctor dies? Or like, does your version of disaster mean everyone who's ever made insulin dies? Like, it's possible. Sure, you could have 90...if almost everyone on Earth dies, then everything is a little different. But most disasters don't actually..... Most disasters destroy ways of living and large numbers of people, but not the majority of people write. Most people survive most disasters. And, people are like, "Well, our organizational systems are what produce insulin," and like, no, people produce insulin and they use organizational systems with which to do it. But different organizational systems can also produce insulin. Like different organizational systems can use the same infrastructure sometimes and make the things that we rely on. And it came up with this like whole thing where people on the internet were like, "Ah, if you're an anarchist, you hate disabled people because in anarchy, you can't have insulin," **Leah ** 50:28 That's gross. **Margaret ** 52:40 It is a complete misunderstanding of anarchism. It is not a lack of organization, it is a different type of organization. **Leah ** 52:46 Anarchy is responsibility. **Margaret ** 52:48 Yes, totally. **Leah ** 52:50 Sorry, sorry. **Margaret ** 52:52 That's why people don't like it. People are afraid of it because they actually have to.... It's the accepting no one is coming to save us except us. You know? No, I love that way of framing and it also annoys anarchists when you tell them this too. **Leah ** 53:07 Okay, well, I mean, you know, so I worked at Modern Times books, which was, you know, is no longer around, but was a long time anarchists and anti authoritarian radical bookstore in the Bay. And we had the only public toilet in all of the Mission because everybody else was like, "No, you gotta buy something." and in my interview, they're like, "How will you make the store better?" And I was like, "I will make the bathroom not smell horrible." Because, you know, it was just like a bust, everyone was pissing in there. And so I taped up a sign that said "Anarchy is responsibility. If you spray the fucking toilet with urine, please wipe it up. Together we can have a toilet." And somebody called me out and was like, "That's capitalist." And I was like, "No, just wipe your piss up or we're not gonna make the revolution. Like, come on." But yeah, they got pissed at me about that. [Both laugh] But yeah, I mean, I think that's a really good point. And it's like, you know, I mean, I think that it does point to, you know, I think a structural problem in a lot of our movements, which is like, yeah, we don't we need more people who know some basics of chemistry and can synthesize stuff. Like, that's, you know, we need more people who've gone to some kind of science or engineering school who can figure out how sewage works and how you synthesize insulin and how you synthesize hormones and like, basic surgery. And I think there's a lot of hopefulness because I--maybe it's just the folks I hang out with--but I have a fair number of friends who are like, "Yeah, I'm gonna be a nurse practitioner. I can give you an abortion. I can sew up your wound. I can help you figure out this thing." And I'd love for there to be more of us who can go to PA school or

In our utmost solidarity, The Red Nation has remained diligent in responding and taking action in the movements toward Palestinian liberation. The Red Nation was joined by: Anthony from MN Anti-War Committee, Rachel Dionne-Thunder with Indigenous Protector Movement, Nicole Mason with Camp Nenookassi, Sana Wazwaz with American Muslims for Palestine, Jae Yates with Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar Clark, and David Gilbert Pederson with MN Workers United & Freedom Road Socialist Organization. Hosted at the New City Center for Healing Justice in Minneapolis. Watch the video edition on The Red Nation Podcast YouTube channel Date of recording: Sunday, December 3rd. Are you Indigenous? Do you support Palestine? Learn more about joining the Indigenous solidarity with Palestine movement and sign the letter here: https://indigenousforpalestine.org/ Support www.patreon.com/redmediapr

How might reparations be envisioned through healing justice? Envision a healing path for Black Americans, one that encompasses emotional, mental, and physical well-being support. The concept of community care in this context visualizes reparative justice through the provision of mind-body health services to empower and heal Black communities.

Allison Vincent is a performer, director, writer, and teacher known for devised work, physical theatre, and gender-bending performances. She has been honored to collaborate with companies and theaters across the Twin Cities, including The History Theater, Jon Ferguson Theater, WLDRNSS, Theater Forever, The Four Humors, Mainly Me, The Illusion, The Guthrie, Frank Theatre, Sod House, Strike Theatre, Transatlantic Love Affair, the University of Minnesota, and Walking Shadow. Allison has received two Ivey Awards for her work creating performance in ensembles and three Golden Lanyard Awards from the MN Fringe as a director.  In addition to performing, Allison is a co-artistic director and founding member of Transatlantic Love Affair, a teaching artist at the Guthrie Theater and Loft Literary Center, and has collaborated as a writer on over twenty produced scripts. In 2022 Allison wrote and performed a solo storytelling show about caretaking for her father succumbing to dementia as a Pillsbury House + Theatre's Naked Stages Fellow. Recently she's had her scripts published in The Empty Room, Rejection Letters, Dirty Girls Come Clean, and Roi Fainéant Press. She teaches at the University of Minnesota in the Writing Studies Department's First Year Writing Program. LinkedIn   Taja Will (they/them) is a non-binary, chronically ill, queer, Latinx (Chilean) adoptee. They are a performer, choreographer, somatic therapist, consultant and Healing Justice practitioner based in Mni Sota Makoce, on the ancestral lands of the Dakota and Anishinaabe. Taja's approach integrates improvisation, somatic modalities, text and vocals in contemporary performance. Their aesthetic is one of spontaneity, bold choice making, sonic and kinetic partnership and the ability to move in relationship to risk and intimacy. Will's artistic work explores visceral connections to current socio-cultural realities through a blend of ritual, dense multi-layered worldbuilding and everyday magic. Taja initiates solo projects and teaching ventures and is a recent recipient of the Jerome Hill Artist Fellowship, in the dance field, awarded in 2021. Their work has been presented throughout the Twin Cities and across the United States. Including local performances at the Walker Art Center Choreographer's Evening, the Red Eye Theater's New Works 4 Weeks, the Radical Recess series, Right Here Showcase and the Candy Box Dance Festival. They were the recipient of a 2018-'19 McKnight Choreography Fellowship, administered by the Cowles Center and funded by The McKnight Foundation. Will has recently received support from the National Association of Latinx Arts & Culture, the Minnesota State Arts Board, and Metropolitan Regional Arts Council. Website Link

Black Queer Feminists Cara Page and Erica Woodland's work focuses on political and spiritual liberation grounded in Black, Indigenous, People of Color, and Queer and Trans healing justice lineages. Their work guides individuals through the history, legacies, and liberatory practices of healing justice—a political strategy of collective care and safety that intervenes in the generational trauma caused by systemic violence and oppression. In this episode, Cara and Erica discuss their recent collaboration as editors of the anthology Healing Justice Lineages, a profound and urgent call to embrace community and survivor-led care strategies as models that push beyond commodified self-care, the policing of the medical industrial complex, and the surveillance of the public health system. This episode was recorded during a live online event on February 2, 2023. A transcript is available at ciispod.com. You can also watch it on the CIIS Public Programs YouTube channel. To find out more about CIIS and public programs like this one, visit our website ciis.edu and connect with us on social media @ciispubprograms. We hope that each episode of our podcast provides opportunities for growth, and that our listeners will use them as a starting point for further introspection. Many of the topics discussed on our podcast have the potential to bring up feelings and emotional responses. If you or someone you know is in need of mental health care and support, here are some resources to find immediate help and future healing: -Visit 988lifeline.org or text, call, or chat with The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline by dialing 988 from anywhere in the U.S. to be connected immediately with a trained counselor. Please note that 988 staff are required to take all action necessary to secure the safety of a caller and initiate emergency response with or without the caller's consent if they are unwilling or unable to take action on their own behalf. -Visit thrivelifeline.org or text “THRIVE” to begin a conversation with a THRIVE Lifeline crisis responder 24/7/365, from anywhere: +1.313.662.8209. This confidential text line is available for individuals 18+ and is staffed by people in STEMM with marginalized identities. -Visit translifeline.org or call (877) 565-8860 in the U.S. or (877) 330-6366 in Canada to learn more and contact Trans Lifeline, who provides trans peer support divested from police. -Visit ciis.edu/counseling-and-acupuncture-clinics to learn more and schedule counseling sessions at one of our centers. -Find information about additional global helplines at www.befrienders.org.

Today, we're getting into the world of professional sports. Ja Morant is a basketball player for the Memphis Grizzlies who has been in the news this year for multiple incidents of misconduct and erratic behavior and was suspended from multiple NBA games, including his most recent bout of cryptic messages on social media that led to a welfare check by Tennessee police. But what we want to talk about is how we can reframe these events and their aftermath in a more liberatory, anti-oppressive way. Content note: this episode will contain discussion of guns and gun culture Listen to the full episode to hear: A brief history of Morant's misconduct and why the morality clause in his contract matters more than whether he broke any laws How public perception and brand management shape the consequences of actions like Morant's How systemic oppression and limited opportunities lead to athletes being upheld as role models when they shouldn't necessarily be Why it matters that Morant is only 23 The NBA's evolving response to gun culture in the last decade A youth development approach to handling these kinds of cases that actually supports the person in making change Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: www.trudilebron.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

On this episode of Wellspringwords: The Podcast, Nkem speaks with Jahan Mantin, Co-founder of Project Inkblot, on the power of being in your personal process. Through the discussion, the two share notes about the importance of remaining connected to the heart when in any creation process, keeping life curious and exploratory, and walking a liberatory path - no matter the circumstance. We hope this conversation helps to expand your vision and support you on your journey of wholeness. Enjoy! Let us know what this conversation brought to mind or heart for you in a podcast review, on Instagram, or via email at bewell@wellspringwords.love. Be well!View this episode's complete shownotes on our website here: www.wellspringwords.love/podcast------------Find Jahan + Project Inkblot here:www.projectinkblot.com/www.instagram.com/projectinkblot/------------Find Nkem here:www.bynkem.co/@naturallyfree123------------Find Wellspringwords here:www.wellspringwords.love/@wellspringwordsDon't forget to rate, review, share and subscribe!Want to show more love? Leave us a tip to support this growing platform. :)Find Wellspringwords here: www.wellspringwords.love/ @wellspringwords ------------Find Nkem here: www.bynkem.co/ @naturallyfree123 ------------Don't forget to rate, review, share and subscribe! Want to show more love? Leave us a tip to support this growing platform. :)

Amira, Mona and Justice join us to discuss the new book, "Towards Bodily Autonomy: A Healing Justice Anthology Decolonizing Sex Work". We discuss the process of creating and publishing. We don't shy away from spirituality in Sex Work. We also look into the systemic and cultural roadblocks set up against marginalized people even creating works like this. Phoenix Calida is hosting the episode with Producer Mr. William behind the boards producing. Links for additional information below: IG: @justicerivera_writes IG: @mona_notte206 Reframe Health and Justice on - IG: @harmreductionfemmes For more from Amira: Reframe Health and Justice on IG: @harmreductionfemmes rootchakragoddess.love sacredstripper.com hoesarehealers.com SUPPORT THE GOFUNDME TO TRANSLATE THE BOOK TO SPANISH https://www.gofundme.com/f/translate-towards-bodily-autonomy-into-spanish

Repast welcomes University of Hawaii William S. Richardson School of Law Professor Andrea Freeman to discuss her recent article, “Food Oppression in a Pandemic,” published in the Journal of Law, Medicine & Ethics.  Professor Freeman wrote this article while participating in the Health Justice: Engaging Critical Perspectives Initiative, and presented it at a convening at UCLA in October 2022 co-sponsored by UCLA's Health Law and Policy Program, in partnership with ChangeLab Solutions, the Institute for Healing Justice and Equity, and the Satcher Health Leadership Institute at Morehouse School of Medicine Here, Professor Freeman talks about her theory of food oppression, the racism inherent in the U.S.'s pandemic response, and a possible road forward.  In the podcast, as in all of her work, she emphasizes that racial justice is an aspect of food justice and is a part of every piece of food policy. Andrea Freeman is Professor of Law at the University of Hawaii William S. Richardson School of Law, and will be joining Southwestern Law School in fall 2023. Michael T. Roberts is the Executive Director of the Resnick Center for Food Law & Policy at UCLA Law. Diana Winters is the Deputy Director of the Resnick Center for Food Law & Policy at UCLA Law. You can find Professor Freeman's article, “Food Oppression in a Pandemic” here. [If you cannot access, please contact Diana Winters.] You can find other articles published as part of the Health Justice Initiative here, and a link to the Health Justice Initiative webpage is here. A link to the webpage for Bite Back 2030, a youth-led UK-based campaign mentioned by Professor Freeman is here. 

Injustice fuels trauma and the impact of trauma can be passed down from generation to generation.  Rev. Lauren Kigweba James speaks about her family's experience with generational trauma and her passion for fighting for social justice so that others can experience healing.   Subscribe/Rate   Never miss an episode by hitting the subscribe button RIGHT NOW! Help other people find our community by taking a few moments to leave a review in your podcasting app. Thanks! Free Gift and Trauma Healing Training Learn more about the Trauma Healing Institute and download a free Trauma Healing Church resource guide at traumahealingchurch.com Connect with Faith on the Journey Faith on the Journey is a Christian company that specializes in bible-based trauma healing resources.  We offer Christian counseling and healing groups.  Learn more by visiting faithonthejourney.org.  Subscribe to our email list at faithonthejourney.org   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/faithonthejourneycounseling/    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/faithonthejourney    Youtube: Faith on the Journey.  Click https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLbmB8oL-hfU6bVW9kEIcFQ to subscribe.   Connect with Laura Kigweba James   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-kigweba-james-34065625 Check out Rev. Laura's podcast at: forcollardgirls.com The music for this show is provided by Bensound.com.     Host: Jocelyn J. Jones Produced by: Jocelyn J Jones Editor: J. Bonifacio The content shared during the Faith on the Journey broadcast is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended to treat or diagnose any mental health condition.  Due to the content of this broadcast, some of the content can be triggering. If triggered, please seek professional support. Viewer discretion is advised. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jocelyn-jones8/support

This epsiode of Finding Refuge is pure fire! I had the honor and privilege of interviewing Cara Page and Erica Woodland, co-editors of Healing Justice Lineages: Dreaming at the Crossroads of Liberation. Read more below about the themes we weaved together during the interview and about Cara and Erica. Cara Page is a Black Queer Feminist cultural memory worker & organizer. For the past 30+ years, she has organized with LGBTQI+/Black, Indigenous & People of Color liberation movements in the US & Global South at the intersections of racial, gender & economic justice, healing justice and transformative justice. She is founder of Changing Frequencies, an abolitionist organizing project that designs cultural memory work to disrupt harms and violence from the Medical Industrial Complex (MIC). She is also co-founder of the Healing Histories Project; a network of abolitionist healers/health practitioners, community organizers, researchers/historians & cultural workers building solidarity to interrupt the medical industrial complex and harmful systems of care. We generate change through research, action and building collaborative strategies & stories with BIPOC-led communities, institutions and movements organizing for dignified collective care.As one of the architects of the healing justice political strategy, envisioned by many in the South and deeply rooted in Black Feminist traditions and Southern Black Radical Traditions, she is co-founder and core leadership team member of the Kindred Southern Healing Justice Collective. She was the Executive Director of the Audre Lorde Project in New York City and is a former recipient of the OSF Soros Equality Fellowship (2019-2020) and ‘Activist in Residence' at the Barnard Center for Research on Women. She was also chosen as Yerba Buena Cultural Center's ‘YBCA100'in 2020. Cara has organized and co-created with many political and cultural institutions & organizations nationally & internationally including Center for Documentary Studies, Third World Newsreel, Sins Invalid, Southerners on New Ground (SONG), Project South, INCITE! Women & Trans People of Color Against Violence, Bettys Daughter Arts Collaborative, and most recently the EqualHealth Campaign Against Racism, the National Queer & Trans Therapist of Color Network, Disability Project of Transgender Law Center, Astraea Lesbians for Justice Foundation and the Anti-Eugenics Project; toward building & resourcing racial, gender & healing justice strategies for our liberation, collective care & safety. Her forthcoming book, co-edited by Erica Woodland, entitled “Healing Justice Lineages: Dreaming at the Crossroads of Liberation, Collective Care & Safety” (North Atlantic Books) will be out in February 2023.Erica Woodland, LCSW is a Black queer, trans masculine/genderqueer facilitator, consultant, psychotherapist and healing justice practitioner who was born, raised, and is currently based in Baltimore, MD. He has worked at the intersections of movements for racial, gender, economic, trans and queer justice and liberation for more than 20 years. He has extensive experience working with young people, Black, Indigenous and People of Color, LGBTQ people, and people with disabilities across the country, from Baltimore to the San Francisco Bay Area. Erica is the Founding Director of the National Queer and Trans Therapists of Color Network (NQTTCN), a healing justice organization that actively works to transform mental health for Queer and Trans Black, Indigenous and People of Color. Under his leadership, NQTTCN has trained and mobilized hundreds of mental health practitioners committed to intervening on the legacy of harm and violence of the medical industrial complex while building liberatory models of care rooted in abolition. Erica came into liberation and healing work in the early 2000s by way of harm reduction and abolitionist organizing with survivors of state, community and interpersonal violence. Working at the nexus of collective care and political liberation has been central to his practice as a clinician, facilitator, and healer. Erica has done extensive work in carceral environments including prisons, jails, and psychiatric detention centers as well as in grassroots community based organizations, giving him a wide range of experience to draw from in his liberation work. From 2012-2016, Erica served as the Field Building Director for the Brown Boi Project, a national gender justice organization, where he lead movement building work to transform masculinity and confront sexism, misogyny, and queer/transphobia.Erica is co-editor of Healing Justice Lineages: Dreaming at the Crossroads of Liberation, Collective Care and Safety, with Cara Page (North Atlantic Books, 2023). In 2017, he was awarded the Ford Public Voices Fellowship and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Culture of Health Leaders Fellowship. Erica's op-eds have been featured in Role Reboot, Yoga International and Truthout and his healing justice work has also been highlighted in Time magazine, CNN, Healthline, Complex, and the New York Times. He is also a principal author of Freeing Ourselves: A Guide to Health and Self Love for Brown Bois (Brown Boi Project, 2011).In this episode, we discuss:The Need for Healing Back, Now and Into the FutureThe Ecosystem of Healing Justice Work and PracticeAccountabilityWhat we Need to Listen to NowAncestorsHonoring Our LineagesRelationship to PlaceDestinyHarriet TubmanCollective CareMovement Work The Disorienting Nature of This TimeThe Process of Being Led to Write a BookCollective LiberationDreamingA Collective Dream for Our Future And More!You can connect with Cara on her website and Erica on his website.Purchase their book, Healing Justice Lineages, here.Podcast music by Charles Kurtz+ Read transcript

Kim & Kara start off a little-slap happy discussing their current struggles. They share coping mechanisms, titanium teeth, Kara hitting half a million followers on the clock app, and Kim's love of all things Kim Possible.  They welcome Amanda Knox to the conversation to tackle subjects like "unpopular" trauma-responses, secondary survivors, and why she agreed to partake in the documentary project about the miscarriage of justice in her case.  Amanda Knox is an exoneree, journalist, public speaker, and author of the New York Times best-selling memoir Waiting to Be Heard. Between 2007 and 2015, she spent nearly four years in an Italian prison and eight years on trial for a murder she didn't commit. Amanda and her husband Christopher produce and host Labyrinths, a podcast about the winding, unexpected paths in people's lives. She is an Editor at Large at New Thinking Magazine, and sits on the board of the Frederick Douglass Project for Justice, whose mission is to humanize the incarcerated. She is also an Innocence Network ambassador. Learn more from Amanda: Website: KnoxRobinson.com Podcast: Labyrinths hosted by Amanda Knox and Christopher Robinson Instagram: @Amamaknox Twitter: @Amandaknox Amanda's CTA: Learn about Healing Justice, founded by Jennifer Thompson, Lenora Claire Consulting, and help support your local Innocence Project. Like what we're doing here? Be sure to subscribe, rate, review, and show all the love. The more people this show can reach, the more it can help.  https://www.survivorsguidetotruecrime.com/ Submit your questions using our handy dandy form or by emailing hello@survivorsguidetotruecrime.com for future Q&A episodes. Don't forget to follow us on social media: Instagram @SurvivorsGuideToTrueCrime  TikTok @SGTCpod Facebook @Survivor'sGuideToTrueCrime YouTube @Survivor'sGuideToTrueCrime Twitter @SGTCpod The theme music used in Survivor's Guide to True Crime is Uplifting Motivational Stomp by MarcusWay

In this sweet dive into the new anthology Healing Justice Lineages, adrienne and Autumn get the incredible honor of interviewing Cara Page and Erica Woodland on the sacred journey of generating and gathering this text as they launch their book tour. GET THE BOOK HERE! --- HEALING JUSTICE LINEAGES PLAYLIST --- SUPPORT OUR SHOW! --- Music by Tunde Olaniran and Mother Cyborg --- HTS ESSENTIALS SUPPORT Our Show on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/Endoftheworldshow PEEP us on IG https://www.instagram.com/endoftheworldpc/ TWEET @ us https://twitter.com/endoftheworldPC --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/how-to-survive-the-end-of-the-world/message

Synopsis:How do Indigenous communities weave together ancestral feminine lineages? This question is at the heart of Associate Professor Sara Motta's praxis of transformation and collective liberation. Through a lens of feminised resistance, Sara, a proud mestiza salvaje, shares her healing journey from the wounds of patriarchal capitalist-coloniality, exploring restorative and reparative pathways of well-being and justice.Notes:Sara's personal websiteGeneologies (M)otherwiseWeaving Enfleshed Citizenship (M)otherwiseVoices of el pueblo: the road to the Colombian electionsDecolonising critique in, against and beyond the business schoolDecolonising (critical) social theory: Enfleshing post-Covid futuritiesMusic in this episode includes ‘ZEN' by All Bets Off, and ‘AERATE' by Higher Power used under an Audio Standard Licence from Adobe Stock.Birthing and Justice is written and produced by Dr Ruth De Souza on the traditional and unceded lands of the Boon Wurrung people of the Kulin Nations. Sound editing by Olivia Smith.

Buki Fadipe is a Nigerian/British/Yoruba medicine woman, Decolonized Educator focused on Transformative and Healing Justice, and certified Psychedelic Medicine Facilitator. She currently facilitates Sacred Medicine Intensives, Psychedelic Education workshops and Integration Sessions under her platform @adventures.in.om She is the Lead Facilitator of the BIPOCS SPIRIT CIRCLE a psychedelic integration community with TAM integration and is a staff writer for Reality Sandwich.   This only scratches the surface of her many passions and activities, for a deeper dive see her website:  https://www.adventuresinom.com/ On January 29th, at 4 pm EST she is moderating a panel discussion "Embodying Decolonial Freedoms--Finding Liberation through African Spirituality & Ancestral Ways of Knowing" featuring preeminent practitioner and devotees from traditions ranging from Ifa, iSangoma, Ubuntu and Kemetic Egyptian amongst other Pan-African sovereign & indigenous philosophies.  See https://www.adventuresinom.com/ for more information and to register for this event.   This podcast is available on your favorite podcast platform, or here:  https://endoftheroad.libsyn.com/episode-249-buki-fadipe-animismdecolonialismafrican-spiritualityentheogens Have an awesome week!

Rad Pereira is an old soul-young heart theater artist, writer, educator, and community activist with a very clear sense of purpose and direction --- defined by questions like: How can we imagine, and manifest alternate futures together? Was my body conditioned to survive in a world not made for me? and Can the natural world function as a moral compass? BIOI am a multi-spirit mixed Black, Indigenous Brazilian, Jewish (im)migrant artist currently based in Lenapehoking (Brooklyn). My creative practices range from social sculpture, to popular theatrical and TV/film performance, to participatory liberatory artmaking and healing that weaves together an Afro-futurist longing for transformative justice and queer (re)Indigenization of culture.I put in a lot of hours to get to where, how and why I am today, with the guidance of many mentors and dedication to cultivating an ancestor led, faithful intuition. I was trained up in Eurocentric theatre and dance on scholarship at Interlochen Arts Academy and Pace University. I kept the parts of that training which were useful and shed the constricting parts. Since then I have been building connection with my ancestral modes of creativity, storytelling and next world building. With my community I created The (Im)Migrant Hustle and produced Bang Bang Gun Amok I + II at Abrons Art Center. With their artner at You Are Here, LILLETH, they created Media Tools for Liberation at JackNY, Decolonization Rave and Cosmic Commons. In 2017 I was NYC Public Artist in Residence with my collaborators (Keelay Gipson, Britton Smith, Josh Adam Ramos), at the Department of Cultural Affairs and Children's Services working with LGBQTIA foster youth;As an actor and director, I have contributed to stories at HBO, CBS, MTV, National Black Theatre, MITU350, The Public Theater, La Mama etc., Shakespeare Theatre in DC, Pittsburgh Public Theatre, New York Theatre Workshop, ART Boston, The Bushwick Starr, Target Margin, Ars Nova, New Ohio, Clubbed Thumb, The Flea Theatre, Sesame Street, Theatre 167 and various online media platforms.As a cultural organizer and facilitator, I have collaborated with the Disney Theatrical Group, United Nations, Queens Museum, Rio de Janeiro Museum, Instituto Republica, MOCA, SITI Company Thought Center, A Blade of Grass, SUPERBLUE, Broadway Advocacy Coalition, The 8th Floor, Working Woman of Color Conference, Dance/NYC Symposium, and Culture/Shift. I have taught performance classes and workshops at Pace University, Interlochen Arts Academy, NET, Americans for the Arts and The Door.Currently, I'm the Director of Engagement and Impact with New York Stage & Film, while shifting between cultural work in performance, education, social sculpture and community organizing. My book on socially engaged performance and social justice with Jan Cohen-Cruz came out in June 2022 by New Village Press.Recent Work:Meeting the Moment, Socially Engaged Performance, 1965–2020, by Those Who Lived It by Jan Cohen Cruz and Rad Pereira NOWNESS: Every Step is a Prayer: Miami's newest innovative arts venue, Superblue, first opened its doors in May 2021 to invite in a new era of perception-shifting art. To honor this beginning, Superblue, alongside local community members and in partnership with NOWNESS, created a short film that honors the

A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. This episode highlights Lavendar Phoenix's Peer Counseling Program. Tonight you'll be hearing interviews from Iris Yip, Phibi Loc Tran, Madhvi  trivedi-pathak, and Al.  They launched their Peer Counseling Program back in August 2022 and  This pilot came out the Trans Justice committee's Up to Us needs assessment finding around trans and non binary API people struggling with mental health and not being able to access affirming mental health support. We wanted to create a free mental healing program that was led by trans API people and did not involve the police.  About 7+ trans and non binary API members planned and organized for almost 2 years to make this pilot happen in Aug 2022. In June-August 2022 we trained 10 trans and non binary API counselors in abolitionist and disability justice based peer counseling (with the help of Project LETS and Asian American Peer Counseling).  In August 2022 we held peer counseling with 8 participants.  The majority of the organizers, counselors and participants were from our priority groups: working class, South Asian/South East Asian/PI/Central Asian. We chose these groups to prioritize those most impacted by systemic oppression in our community. One participant who received counseling said: “Both of my peer counselors were so lovely to talk to, and I felt more seen in that one session than I have in 10 years of searching for a therapist who could understand my intersectionality.” Lavender Phoenix builds transgender, non-binary, and queer Asian and Pacific Islander power in the Bay Area. We inspire and train grassroots leaders, transform our values from scarcity to abundance, and build vibrant intersectional movements. AACRE Thursdays is monthly radio show featuring an organization from the AACRE: Asian American for Civil Rights and Equality. AACRE Thursdays premiers every third Thursday of the month at 7pm. Find more APEX Express Shows here. Links: Donate to sustain our work: lavenderphoenix.org/donate Instagram: @lavphoenix Facebook: facebook.org/lavphoenix Twitter: @lav_phoenix Lavender Phoenix Transcript: [11/23/22] Peer Counseling pilot [00:00:00] Apex express Asian Pacific expression. Unity and cultural coverage, music and calendar, new visions, and voices coming to you with Asian Pacific Islander point of view. It's time to get on board the apex express.  [00:00:14] paige: Hello, welcome to acre Thursdays on apex express radio. My name is Paige Chung and tonight we'll be listening to interviews from lavender Phoenix, an organization of transgender non-binary and queer Asian Pacific Islanders fighting for community safety, healing justice. And sustainable movements in the San Francisco bay area.  [00:00:33] paige: I'm really excited tonight to showcase lavender. Phoenix is peer counseling program. Tonight. You'll be hearing interviews from Iris Yip , Phoebe loc tran, Madvi Trivedi-Pathak, and Al, all members of lavender, Phoenix. So they launched their peer counseling program back in August, 2022. And this pilot came out of their trans justice committee's needs assessment findings called “up to us”. In their findings they found out that trans and nonbinary API people [00:01:00] struggle with mental health and not being able to access, affirming mental health support. So they wanted to create a free mental health healing program that was led by trans Asian Pacific Islander people. And did not involve the police.  [00:01:13] paige: So about seven plus trans and non binary API planned organized for almost two years to make this pilot happen in August, 2022. So From June to August, 2022, they trained 10 trans and non-binary API counselors. And abolitionists and disability, justice based peer counseling. Using the help of project LETS and Asian-American peer counseling. Then in August, 2022, they held their peer counseling program with eight participants. The majority of the organizers, the counselors and the participants were from the priority groups of lavender, Phoenix, which include the working class, south Asian people, Southeast Asian people, Pacific Islander people and central Asian people. And they chose these groups to prioritize because they're the most [00:02:00] impacted by systematic oppression in their community. And one participant who receives counseling said, ” both of my peer counselors were so lovely to talk to. And I felt more seen in one session that I have in 10 years of searching for a therapist who could understand my intersectionality.”  [00:02:16] paige: So we'll first hear from Iris. Yep. And Mahdavi, and then you'll hear from Phoebe and I'll later on. And yeah, we'll hear about their peer counseling program that they launched and their reflections from it. Here is Iris Yip.  [00:02:31] Iris: So the first question is about the planning process of the pilot. So thinking about the planning process with peer counseling pilot what do you think has been going well with the process? [00:02:42] Madhvi: With the planning process? Process? I came in during a later iteration. So by the time that I entered into this space there, several folks through Healing Justice and maybe even other committees that had given their [00:03:00] input. [00:03:00] Madhvi: So it's gone through many different folks, many different perspectives have been included in the planning process, and I think that creates a really well-rounded experience. You can tell that there's a lot of consideration too, on who's been generally excluded from life spaces where gaining the tools for healing and community support and really trying to center the planning around. Amplifying and creating a space that feels welcoming for folks that are often excluded, even within our large QT API umbrella. It's nice that this is a trans centered space. This is one that is really trying to honor working class narratives to think that's a place of invisibilization often. So there's a lot of thoughtfulness that has been put into the planning process. [00:03:48] Iris: And what would you say that is the impact of that thoughtfulness and having had so many perspectives be involved in the creation of this? [00:03:56] Madhvi: I think impact is that when there has been gaps, it does end up [00:04:00] getting filled. There is an abundance of perspectives coming in. So there's this flow of thoughts that , keep it full , very thoughtful in that way. also the folks who are on, who are in this iteration of the planning and organizing. I'll come from really interesting, unique backgrounds. So you're able to see the input from each different person and it gives it a really beautiful, full experience to be able to see the ways in which the curriculums can develop the way in. And the art connecting to the flyers, that was created by a previous summer organizer too. There's just it's nice to have a history already, in this mix, being made and so many people being involved. Okay.  [00:04:45] Iris: And then thinking about the planning process again what has been difficult about the process? [00:04:50] Madhvi: Since this is a first time pilot program, there's so much beauty and potential for what seeds are being sewed in this segue of [00:05:00] wanting to make sure things feel. Evenly doable for folks who are the peer counselors in training as well as the people who are on the organizing end and so it's this chemistry situation where we're , okay. [00:05:13] Madhvi: I'm , does this feel too much too soon? Or does it feel not enough? We wanna be able to. Support folks and feeling supported to be able to do this pilot. It's new for everyone, for the organizers, for the people who are being trained, for the folks that are gonna be receiving the counseling. So there's a lot of considerations around ethics, safety, holding, these notions of what is safe? What feels the individual, in their agency and autonomy can hold and the organization too. Where are the places where lavender, phoenix, maybe impacted, Are there things around informed consent or if there is some kind of moment things that we've had conversations about, it's okay, what.  [00:05:53] Madhvi: Someone gets activated a peer counselor's not able to hold the space or they end up leaving feeling [00:06:00] activated from a session. We were thinking a lot about the chain of support, so how the organizers can support the peer counselors as they're supporting the people being counseled and then how lavender Phoenix can help the organizers. So it's just a lot of figuring it out for the first time. . And also peer counseling is really beautiful in this way where it's separate from the clinical, mandated regulations that maybe counselors who are held by, state laws are in relationship with.  [00:06:30] Madhvi: So there's more freedom here. And then also moving through that space. It's also when we're in that place of freedom, there's this underlying, I feel the state tries to instill fear in people who are trying to do this work that you're gonna fuck up or gonna do something wrong. And it's really a lot of us being , we actually know what we need to do, how to be able to maneuver out of these state based policies that rely on violence systems and give each other the tools. [00:06:57] Iris: Okay. And then last question [00:07:00] on the planning process do you have any recommendations for improving the process or [00:07:05] Madhvi: For the planning process? I think that there's really great intention to share, if people are feeling. Burnt out overexerted. And also I think that a lot of us, including myself, [laughter], I think from the , I will not really share that when it's happening, even though the language at Lavender Phoenix and the culture is ask for help when you need it. [00:07:25] Madhvi: There's so much of that. And then yet there's still this feeling of resistance or feeling , Bad about not being able to do more and pushing past, what does feel comfortable I'm wondering if there's a space for people in the planning process as organizers to kinda anonymously send feedback to staff anonymous feedback survey sort of thing, during the process to kinda gauge. People's level of feeling energized, exhausted, what maybe is needed. [00:07:56] Madhvi: And since there are people who are yeah, the working class [00:08:00] end too, of the organizing side. It would be cool if there were stipends. It is a lot of work and labor that goes into it for compensation is a cool thing. And also it's one of those things too, even saying it feels a guilt twinge or being , this is something where it's community. We're doing it for a reason outside. But it's also the, sometimes it's hard to be able to do the psych work when our own cups are emp. [00:08:26] Iris: Yeah. Great. Thank you for sharing the ation. And I think there's a of the important things there, especially around feedback. Yeah. I think anonymous feedback is to bridge that of job and how difficult it's my next set of. Is it that the sustainability you talk a little bit about, but I know that the peer counseling team has tried to do a lot of work around making the process sustainable for both the planning team and counsel. So thinking about the sustainability of the process what do you think has worked so far? [00:08:57] Madhvi: Sustainability wise, it has [00:09:00] been nice to be able to have the larger healing justice committee plug into the efforts. And there's I think five or six of us who are in the organizing peer counseling side right now, but they're , Yeah, as I shared before, there have been so many people the earlier iterations of this too. It's being able to know that you can kinda pass the torch and there's gonna be other people there. It's not all of the responsibility is on this group of five or six people. There are so many people who are down to rise to the occasion and support and be here for the next iteration too. I think that's gonna be something that's gonna help with. Long term visions of sustainability too, and knowing that there will be breath in between and there's always consent in the process too, really invitations to kind join into these efforts. Nothing feels, it feels the space to communicate. [00:09:55] Madhvi: Okay, if it's when does it end? Are we. ending there. Are we [00:10:00] continuing, it does seem there's a finite end point for this moment in time, which gives a break and that feels just good to know in terms of future planning and if the invitation to come back to help the pilot program or the program if it wants, if it grows. Something that's gonna be a larger part, for the future of lavender Phoenix. And there's that aspect, which is great. Sustainability wise, it's cool that we're not, the organizers are not doing all the trainings. I thought that was originally what it was and it felt a lot. [00:10:28] Madhvi: But we're able to resource out to people in the community who've been doing this work for a really long. Who are living their lives, Project lets folks in that word Stephanie, get to make their living off of doing this amazing disability justice work. And it's cool to be able to financially support them too in the process of feel sustainable. Even in the way that we're creating the relationships, new relationships to other orgs that haven't been part of Lavender Phoenix's network in the past. So it feels yeah, there's that way of [00:11:00] being able to be supportive, sustaining other people, other projects, other orgs, utilizing other folks' knowledge. [00:11:07] Iris: Yeah. as a follow up to that, what you think the impact has been of outsourcing, the training to project LETS rather than digging it. [00:11:16] Madhvi: Yeah, The impact has been a really great learning experience, I think for even the organizers doing this too. We get to learn alongside the peer counselors, we get to build relationships with project labs other groups too we're gonna be doing role play later. I'm forgetting what the acronym starts with aapc. And just being able to these are folks that have been doing peer counseling specifically in Asian American communities, for a good second too. So they have inside guidance, a history, a way to be able to support and navigate and offer their own wisdom. As this specific, lavender, phoenix seed is in its way of sprouting out a peer counseling. So [00:12:00] it's lovely being able to , have people who've been doing this, be able to offer feedback throughout the process to offer guidance that doesn't , feel one of those things , ah, we're starting from scratch. [00:12:10] Madhvi: No, it's it's already here. This resource is here and we're connecting to what is already, and then if, Yeah, making the changes that feel the needed transformation, maybe if it. Spaces haven't honored trans, non-binary, intersex communities, in the process of centering their spaces, That's what we're able to do better. What we're able to commit to doing better is owning those kinds of spaces and having folks within our own communities getting trained who have lived experience in that way. So just different places, orgs that have lived experience in their own ways, taking the gems and then knowing that our peer counselors have this other lived experience that maybe not as represented in other spaces. They get to add their own little non-binary flare too. Yeah. [00:12:58] Iris: And then on the flip [00:13:00] side thinking about the sustainability of this project, what do you think could make this process more sustainable? [00:13:06] Madhvi: It really feels in the future since we've already kinda done a lot of the initial connecting, getting the trainings, learnings and understandings, from this experience, going forward it's gonna be a lot less work on the organizing end since we've done a lot of research amongst all the different iterations of folks who have passed through the planning process for this. That there's just a beautiful database that is growing and growing in so many resources that are growing and growing that it's feeling very. A tangible vault of okay, this is where we're gonna go and we know where we're gonna go. Versus I'm not sure yet. It's kinda we transgressed into the place of knowing okay, these orgs are here and that helps, that feeling of sustainability and kind shortening, that place of panic of Oh, where do we go? Who do we turn to support us and who can we support to in. .  [00:13:58] Madhvi: Yeah, and [00:14:00] if we're able to keep in touch and keep those relationships strong, there may be even more places of connecting and growing and offering. People in not just the live under Phoenix community, but community, but larger communities the ability to access maybe free or, Yeah, free trainings on peer counseling and letting it be more of a widespread so to resource that it's just a really beautiful thing that folks can tap into feeling that level of agency, that feels self sustainable, too, sustainable for organizations when people , feel they're equipped. [00:14:35] Iris: Thank you for your response to that. My last two questions are about the future of the program. So first do you have any thoughts on if we should continue this program after the pilot stage and what would the impact of that be? Whether we do or not? [00:14:53] Madhvi: I think it would be really wonderful for it to be something that happens.[00:15:00] A few times a year. I know when peer support things do start out, it's smaller, shorter, and then as people can be more familiar with the process and the comfort of knowing their own agency and holding space, it feels something that it could be in many seasons throughout the year and the space of just. [00:15:21] Madhvi: Drop in support. It's something that feels a need that's always gonna be a need. And it's also to have free, culturally competent, gender expansive, aware ways of being, in listening in support. That feels a forever healing justice. Home to kinda be able to provide community. It feels important. It seems and fingers crossed, that people who are going through this training program are able to tap in deeper cuz there's a good handful of folks, I believe 16 people and those folks can be organizers in so many different renditions down the line too, having had [00:16:00] this experience and they're coming in. Yeah. I'm just so curious to hear their own feedback on this process and what they think future peer counselors would need for it to grow. I'm sure that there's gonna be maybe more, carefully cultivated, cohort experiences could be a. Powerful experience for folks. [00:16:19] Madhvi: Cause right now it does feel a little bit looser in the sense of different parts of , the summer organizer. There's a strong sense of Oh, we're building relationships with each other. That doesn't seem it exists so strongly for people who are peer counselors right now, they're showing. These spaced weekends with minimal contact with each other throughout. So maybe that could be the future, where there's a more of a cohort experience. Yeah.  [00:16:44] Iris: Yeah. The last question is, do you have new recommendations for continuing this program beyond the pilot? If it does. [00:16:53] Madhvi: Yeah, I think this cohort experience would be cool. Maybe art, kinda. Component too [00:17:00] are a, creating a space, it is something that we didn't really talk about, but there are ways of making virtual s and things that, And that could be really beautiful as part of this. I'm also curious to hear more people's stories as to why they're interested in this work. There was a little bit of that in the welcoming but just the ability to know folks a little bit more feels it could be important. And in the spirit of doing that too, it feels the training would maybe need to. be closer in time as well as instead of spaced out over several months. [00:17:36] Madhvi: I think the spacing out really helped us as the planning team. Yeah. Cause a lot of things have been figured out very as we're going, even though we tried to plan ahead, things changed. So it's okay. But that timeline that allows a sense of intimacy and connection to in a way that feels , okay, more concrete. And yeah, I think more interactive aspects too would be [00:18:00] helpful. It does feel a lot of absorbing, which is super important. And also I think when we get to the role play, we're gonna be able to witness more so of the peer counselors in the process of. Doing the embodied and the relaying aspects of this where Yeah, right now it's a lot of absorbing, taking in. [00:18:21] Madhvi: Yeah. I'm also wondering for the peer counselors in their own lives too, the way that , these interview questions have been kinda asking about sustainability. Or the planning team and all of those I'm curious too, for them, how they would need more support from us. If it feels it's even an open invitation too, I'm not entirely sure if that has been as carefully created and Yeah. So I think that would. An important thing to consider going forward. Just kinda checking in on where the individuals are too in their life and knowing that they can receive support. I , I hope that they know, in our [00:19:00] emails, there is always that space of feel free to, to connect on things anything in the reading feels activating. This is who you can reach out to and so I hope that There in a way that sometimes even when something is there in that way, it doesn't mean that people are gonna use it if there's not that trust and rapport built.  [00:19:19] Madhvi: So I feel needing to have some trust building, relationship building for people to feel safe enough to actually reach out if they dunno folks. Yeah. Okay. And actually I have one follow up to your, It's about what do you think would be the impact of having a closer connection between the counselor cohort if they had more opportunities to , interact with each other and talk in that way? , I honestly think that it. I'm just thinking about my own cohort experiences in different places. I've been able to lean on those folks, maybe more so than the people who are holding the container. There's a distance between the people who are holding the [00:20:00] container and the people who are going through the process with you, shared experiences, more maybe of the same questions, insecurities, excitement, joy and being able to have that kinda space to know okay, we're going through this together, this part of the journey. It could just help additional processing that, stronger feeling of grounded in purpose as well. Yeah.  [00:20:24] Madhvi: Great. And I totally agree, and that's my question. Yeah. Thank you for talking with me. I'm going to end the recording now. [00:20:33] paige: All right. That was the first interview with Iris yip and Madvhi. So now we're going to take a quick music break and listen to queer brown love by Leo Hegde who is on staff. I love under Phoenix. This is queer brown love by Leo Hegde.  [00:21:00] [00:22:00] [00:23:00] [00:24:00]  [00:24:20] paige: You just listened to queer brown love by Leo Hegde who is a staff at lavender Phoenix. You are listening to apex express on KPFA 94.1 and online@kpfa.org. Let's get back into these interviews by lavender Phoenix. And this next interview will be conducted by Iris Yip who will be talking to Al.  [00:24:41] Iris: This is the first question. What has gone, what has worked well with the training content?  [00:24:45] al: Yeah, so what has worked really well, I believe is Lavender Phoenix outsourcing the education to those that are actively learning and practicing. Peer [00:25:00] counseling based on their own lived experiences. I think that opportunity to collaborate with project lets created such a in depth and I. Just , how do I say this? Enlightening space for me and my peers to learn and also express curiosity, ask questions in live time with the coordinator of project lets, and process hard emotions and also bring in our own lived experiences and ask for best practices in live time. [00:25:29] al: So I just, That has been very revolutionary for me because just in multiple learning spaces that I've been in from school to workplaces to internships, people tend to cut corners around education. They think that trainings are just trainings PowerPoints, but. I think that learning from guest speakers that are actually within the realm of work, and especially for this work of working with people, I think that this will create influential impacts on each and every peer counselor.  [00:25:59] al: There's [00:26:00] no way that I feel this curriculum has been disengaging. It's been so engaging and so memorable. And I wanna say too, that I've been in different peer counseling cohorts and I've been trained on this topic area, but the content was ableist, not trauma-informed, controversial and harmful. And the content that peer counseling has been teaching me has been healing me and been helping me to expand my scope on my family, my lived experiences, and myself and my community. And it's so much more than just a training. It's a revolutionary space for sure.  [00:26:40] Iris: Awesome. Yeah. I love that. Has there been any, specific part of the training that you can share that you think has had that impact on you?  [00:26:47] al: Has that healing impact on me? Yeah I think that I've. I think this might be normal in lavender, phoenix spaces, but it's not normal for me in my other spaces in my everyday life. [00:27:00] But calling one selves in to whenever they misspoke for instance, one time the coordinator of Project LETS had said something about the word darkness and they had not caught themselves about the racist implications that, that may have because of the just how society binary things, black, white, darkness and light. And there's a lot of connotations around the words you use and using mindful language. And I didn't know that it was. Irking, I didn't know that. But then in that space, someone called them in and the speaker corrected themselves.  [00:27:34] al: And I got to watch, someone that I look up to model behavior in lifetime of what I'm learning as they're learning and seeing my educators , or my mentors facilitators, having that student always mentality too, that they're here to learn from us as well. That's groundbreaking because I have so much respect for queer elders cuz they've lived through so much stuff. But the fact that. The queer [00:28:00] elders in this space in particular want to learn from us, the youth in this space. I think that's what's really healing, because in this space, I just see a world where I really actually wanna live in. And that could make me cry because the state of the world outside of the space is really ugly. [00:28:16] Iris: That's amazing. I'm really glad this training has given me that space. I really resonated with what you said about being an environment where there's, again, mutual sense of learning and wanting to learn from each other. I think that curiosity really helps bring an open mind to these kinds of spaces.  [00:28:30] Iris: Okay. The next question is, so I think you've touched on this already, but what do you think has been the impact? Of outsourcing this, people that are really, I guess doing the work of anti ableist behavior and anti-racism, culturally competent peer counseling. What is the impact of that being in this kind of training? [00:28:47] al: I think that it's resistance in the making and movement in the making. I think that I feel very lucky to have access this knowledge because not everyone gets the chance to learn what [00:29:00] happens when someone's under psychiatric arrest? That's something that you will hear more about when you go through the project lETS training, but understanding. Because I'm coming from a place of privilege where I've never been 51 50 that I've never been arrested. I've never been on the inside doors of a psychiatric treatment facility. So speaking from that point of view and hearing from someone who has, and the harm that the state has on patients and how vulnerable patients are, I feel like that creates movement and solidarity with people who do not have lived experiences with it, but know people who have lived experiences with it and see how fucked up it is and wants to do something better and provide alternative sources and resources for care, specifically community care because . [00:29:48] al: One of the main reasons why I'm so politicized is because growing up I watch my dad struggle to get the mental health access care he needs because he has severe [00:30:00] mental psychosis that relapses annually. And I believe that the reason why it happens so repetitively and cyclically is because there's a need that's not being met and that need should met by the healthcare system in this first world country. But it's so inaccessible. It's so culturally irrelevant and dare say it's harmful, it's abusive, it's traumatizing. And so Okay. I'm going on tangents, but it's, it, I never understood what happened when my dad was hospitalized because I was always on the outside. [00:30:32] al: I was always his caretaker, wanting to find him a source for him to get care. But He was never able to really communicate to me what was happening on the inside of those doors because of language barriers, because how hard it is to talk about these things in Vietnamese culture. It's just, there's so much that separates us from being able to talk about everything he feels and everything he experiences. [00:30:51] al: There's just not words to describe how bizarre the state of there is in this country and neglect that he's faced due to war and [00:31:00] colonization. He doesn't have the words to describe what he's going through, but I can see the effects and now I know the effects. I know I have the knowledge and education of what happens behind those hospital doors and how he spends hours and hours trying to pay his hospital bills that are bizarre. [00:31:16] al: Hundreds of thousands of dollars and so I know these things now because of the space that I hear from other people. And I think that in knowing this, I'm fired up, I'm heated and I, my drive is to build community. My drive is to build actual healing spaces that, we have the potential to create as a collective. And I just don't wanna rely on the state anymore. And I want better for my dad. I want better for me, I want better for our community Now, future past, I. We can do better now with these tools that we're learning in this space and how we're opening our hearts to each other through the various pains and barriers that, that the state is trying to keep in between us all. Yeah.  [00:31:58] Iris: Yeah. Thank you for [00:32:00] sharing both so vulnerably and so passionately. Oh, no, I really love the way you are always very reflective in what you say. And I think it gives such great knowledge that I can learn from too yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Oh my God, this is great. Okay. My next question is do you think there's any other additional trainings that you would find helpful or that you think you would to learn more about that hasn't been met yet? [00:32:25] al: Yeah. So I actually went to. Bystander Intervention training led by the Safety Committee, Community Safety Committee. I feel that should have been everyone who's training to be a peer counselor should have gone to that. I feel because it was so relevant. It was basically one thing in particular that I feel , just related so much is because they gave us real life scenarios. What would you do if someone was experiencing active psychosis in the park? What would you do with your body? What would you do with yourself? Would you get other people? All these things that are relevant practice for what's coming up in this training. [00:33:00] Cuz I know that looking forward we are going to have a pilot program and the more practice that we can get, especially role play practice and especially being in person with one another and establishing those connections with one another, I think that's so crucial and yeah I, Does that answer your question? [00:33:19] Iris: Yeah, definitely. And once again, the follow up. What do you think the impact of that would be if everybody that was becoming a peer counselor would take that kind of bystand training?  [00:33:27] al: Yeah, I think that the effect of that is that we would be able to reach more people who have various learning styles because I know that for me personally, it's hard for me to learn through Zoom because I don't have a safe space to be taking my meetings. I still live in my parents house and it's really hard for me to focus sometimes and feel entirely safe. So having spaces in person for me personally is a space for me to exhale. And be a different type of present cuz I'm with people and [00:34:00] I'm sharing space — space that is established and intentionally safe or encouraged to push you to be brave. [00:34:08] al: I don't know if everyone will feel safe there, but that's definitely the intention. And just for me personally, yeah, being on Zoom kind of you can't assume that everyone can learn that way, yeah. As effectively, especially since I feel the generation that's primarily in lavender, Phoenix and the training, we grew up going to school in person. That's the probably 90 to 95% of the experience. It was just such a shift and learning these super relevant topics. All the while I'm in a space that's far back in terms of. It's just being in this house is going back in time or just being in spaces that are not lavender, phoenix it is, you're going back in time. [00:34:44] al: Racism is there, homophobia is there, all the bad things are there. But when you're with lavender Phoenix, you're just I'm in this new world that I actually have hope in. I was saying earlier, so having a central location for people to meet would be so cool. But I also know that Lavender Phoenix is so spread across the Bay area, [00:35:00] which is so cool. So I know it wouldn't work for everybody, but I don't know. Yeah. [00:35:04] Iris: Yeah. Absolutely .  [00:35:06] al: Oh, another thing too, an impact that I, a positive impact is that having those scenarios will allow us to practice these skills with various demographics and various sectors of our lives and just honestly live by what we learn. And not just practice it in work, but actually apply it and externally and internally in all facets of our lives, which I think is awesome. That's what education should be. It's for liberating the soul and for liberating the people. It's, yeah, it's not for a grade, it's not for a Certifi certificate. It's for you, and for the people. So I think that getting opportunities to practice with one another and treating it , it's more than just a training that you can just click through, that's the difference I think. Yeah.  [00:35:48] Iris: Yeah. Totally. Awesome. Okay, so next question is going to be moving a little bit away from the training content into, so I know the peer [00:36:00] counseling team has been doing a lot of work to try to make this process sustainable for both the planning team and for the counselors. So thinking about sustainability have there been things that, you've seen this program do that you think has worked to make this process more sustainable for the counselors? [00:36:17] al: Have I seen anything that makes the process seem sustainable for, Is that the question? [00:36:24] Iris: Yeah. [00:36:24] al: Remind me again is this peer counseling training program, has it been through generations already? Or is this the first cohort?  [00:36:31] Iris: This is the first time.  [00:36:32] al: Have I seen anything that [00:36:34] al: let's see. I think it's been. I think it's too soon for me to say cause I missed the first meeting because. It was an awkward transition. I had just joined Lavender Phoenix when Lavender Phoenix changed their name. So I missed all the information for the first meeting. I don't know what it, what the community building aspect that they had planned was at all. And that's how me, I could have watched the training back, but [00:37:00] it was an hour long and I didn't want to. Yeah, I would also feel fomo. I was , Oh, I missed it. I wasn't there. I think that maybe. No, I don't know how to answer this question cuz I missed  [00:37:09] Iris: Yeah, that's OK . That's ok. Yeah. Then perhaps, is there anything you can think of that Loud could implement to make this process more sustainable? And thinking perhaps in the long run. When this pilot program is actually started now and people are doing the counsel sessions.  [00:37:25] al: Yeah. I have a couple of things. Yeah. I would say since I missed the first one, I would say that I just wanna get to know people in my cohort better. I think that One thing that works in the past in my other peer counseling programs was that I established a feeling of familiarity with the people that I was learning with and why they're here and stuff that. And had a lot of focus groups and we practiced on each other for role play. Yeah, feeling less alone in this would definitely make this more, less nerve-wracking. So there's that for [00:38:00] sustainability of just cause the way that these meetings roll on, I feel not everyone can make it out to each one. So I think time should be cut away for folks to just get to know each other more besides the why are you here? But just prompt questions. [00:38:12] al: I know Lavender Phoenix can, ask some heartfelt questions and get people to open up to one another because I think that making that making it more personable will make it more sustainable. Cause, when you don't have a connection to people in a group, I don't think you're as likely to return and hold significance for it. So yeah, build building community in that way and not just for meeting. And other thing is I noticed that our meetings are quite sporadic. So I don't even really remember what I've the last time I met with the cohort, so having a more consistent pattern of meetings so that the knowledge that I learned can be processed and then added onto, but there's been so much processing time that I've almost forgotten it already. [00:38:52] al: So just having more consistent meetings for the next cohorts maybe and then for another, I know that since this [00:39:00] is a pilot program, there may be a lot of pressure around building curriculum. So I understand that's really challenging and I would say I would love to be a part of the planning process. I don't know what that would look for Lavender Phoenix and how they do things, but maybe their next court around you can have alumnis come back and be a part of the planning and the conversation. Or even right now opening up this space or opening up spaces for people in the cohort to provide active feedback since there are so many gaps between meetings, just talk to us so we can improve as we go, as opposed to wait and then improve. So more dialogue. [00:39:37] Iris: I love that. I love feedback. I think it's important as well. Okay and then now last question. Moving gone. Woo. You already shared some of this, but also thinking about the future of this program, do you have any recommendations for continuing this beyond the pilot that we're going to have?  [00:39:52] al: Yeah, please have more cohorts. That's my feedback. , I think that if Lavender Phoenix has capacity, a cohort a year would be [00:40:00] awesome or I feel very blessed to have had this opportunity, so I want it to keep going. I can't remember the days in which we were meeting, but having weekend meetings are awesome for students and people who work. Other feedback that I have for longevity and future planning maybe expand the, I don't know how many people are planning the thing, but maybe more support would help. I have no idea if they're struggling or what, but yeah, making sure that, cuz this is tough work. It's a lot of pressure to be birthing such a beautiful generation, So I hope that, on the other end of things, people are being properly supported and taken care of in terms of each other and themselves. [00:40:37] Iris: Yeah. Yeah, I the, there's one more question. There's just the follow with always the impact. So what do you think? So what will be the impact? And just what will be the impact of program, of peer counseling will be impact.  [00:40:49] al: Intergenerational community care within the, when this, within this queer, trans, non-binary, a API community I think it starts [00:41:00] here and I could see this being a force that spreads across the world. I think what we're doing is historical and we're carrying on other history legacies, And I think ultimately this saves lives. It saves lives of the people in this space, people who know the people in this space, and people that are in the space that we haven't even met. And it preserves our peoples, our stories and our powers and our energies. I'm getting emotional as to how much I love this program. It saves lives, it sets people free. [00:41:33] al: Yeah. Damn, you're not a cry. Yeah. I think the impact is be out of this world, I don't want it to end, I wanna return. I wanna keep learning. I think that's another thing too, is that as someone is in the core right now, I don't want it to end. I'd hate to see it end. I wanna keep learning. Yeah. So what does that look ? I don't know. Maybe I can return and facilitate and learn from people in the cohort. That would be beautiful.  [00:41:58] Iris: Thank you. Truly [00:42:00] amazing. And I agree from am I involvement in this process too? I really see the power of it and I really, the learning. Community. It's great. It's amazing. It's . So good. Yeah, With that, I'm gonna stop recording now.  [00:42:15] paige: All right. That concludes the second interview from lavender Phoenix. We'll be taking a short break. You're listening to 94.1 KPFA San Francisco, 89.3, Berkeley 88.1, Fresno and 97.5 in Santa Cruz. And of course, online@kpfa.org.  [00:46:56] paige: You're listening to 94.1 KPFA San Francisco, 89.3, Berkeley 88.1, Fresno and 97.5 Santa Cruz and online@kpfa.org. We're going to listen to the last interview from lavender Phoenix. That includes Iris yip interviewing Phoebe. And talking about the peer counseling program that they launched in august of 2022.  [00:47:26] Iris: So the first question our first set of questions has to do with the planning process for this pilot. And in thinking about the planning process for the peer counseling pilot, what would you say has been going well with the process?  [00:47:44] Phibi: Yeah. For what's been going well with the process? It's been nice that we've been able to go at our own pace and capacity, and we've also had lot of different learning lessons among the team that our time together. And also helping Jasmine as a staff person just check in with us from time to time has also helped [00:48:00] consolidate our ideas and moving out the process. [00:48:02] Iris: Great. And on the other hand, what would, what do you think has been difficult about the planning process?  [00:48:08] Phibi: Yeah, what's been difficult about the process is that there's actually been a lot of timeline shifts. For example, the pilot was intended to happen a one day, and then it was pushed back and then push back again. And that main thing that dragged out the process, which can be training in some context. Yeah. And then also what's been difficult is yeah, how the healing justice members involved in contributing Yeah. Cuz we weren't sure how to exactly even implement a process for folks outside of the peer counseling team in healing Justice can to support us. And it's also because, it's a novel process. It's just. Staff guided, on the side rather than a directly staff involved process. And making this part from scratch presents a lot of difficulties on the first time.  [00:48:46] Iris: Speaking on it's staff guided rather than staff involved. I think it's a, you said what do you think is the impact of that rather than that, the other way of doing it?  [00:48:56] Phibi: Yeah I think one of the positive impacts is that it takes some weight [00:49:00] off of the staff. Cause the staff carry on a lot of different responsibilities. And it helps them in that sense. And also it allows more spaciousness for different folks in the planning team to actually take on leadership in the context of makes sense for them, but passively rather than turning to the staff person for the next step, it's actually up to us to continue the process and then refer to them if we need support along the way. [00:49:19] Iris: Yeah. Great. Okay. And then, so think about the planning process question, which is, do you have any recommendations for improving the planning process? Maybe for now or for later?  [00:49:33] Phibi: Yeah, I think. Some recommendations would be to have the staff challenge us with more kinda push or challenging questions. I think I think during the time when Yuan was still the staff member for for counseling, it was someone would ask some really deep questions and I think that really helped us certify our values and also helped us stay on track. So I think times questions that challenge us I guess we wanna do this, but also , why are we doing this important? What is the meaning of it? Yeah. Yeah. And then we also kinda implementing a more formal [00:50:00] process. I think one example would be , Mocha could be a good process or just Or when we first had the pilot, when we first had the planning team set up, it's oh, we didn't actually have to have a structure. It was unstructured. And so having a more structured thing in the future would be helpful. And then also listing out all the different resources and contacts that we actually have, including different community organizations is helpful. And I guess if there's a second iteration of the peer counseling project or pilot, I guess program would be referring back to previous year's work if this could, if this goes on for multiple years yeah. [00:50:30] Iris: Yeah. Great. Okay. Next of questions to do around the sustainability of, so I know that the peer counseling team was doing a lot of work around making the process sustainable for both the planning team and the counsel. So thinking about the sustainability of this process, what do you think has worked? [00:50:48] Phibi: Yeah. Something we recently done is that we actually changed our monthly meetings from the duration of one hour to the duration of an hour and 30. And this actually allowed us to have longer checkins and actually do more relationship building. [00:51:00] Because back when we had just one hour meetings, it just felt really rushed. [00:51:03] Phibi: We had to check in super quick and then we had to do all our action items and it just felt very , limiting. And so that definit. And also recruiting more Pennington numbers definitely gave us more capacity and also more d and more experiences of folks coming in. And also having deeper and honest conversations or check-ins about the process. [00:51:21] Phibi: Where are we at? How is our capacity? Doing those type of checkings and finding the balance of , where. We should split up and do certain tasks or we should all, all come together to work on. I think that's a good balance to help those. Yeah. And so what do you think is the impact of having I guess longer and deeper, check-ins? [00:51:39] Phibi: Yeah I think having, longer check-ins allows you to settle into the space. Can be coming from anything before. And so I haven't had a deeper check in can be more real about what, where is your capacity at? And what can you more realistically take on? Yeah. [00:51:52] Phibi: All right. So thinking about the sustainability of this process again, what do you think could be done to make this [00:52:00] process more sustainable? Yeah. To make this process more sustainable? I'd say having a more solidified structure and action plan, and also making sure that we all feel really grounded in our values. And then also I check in on those values, do they still feel good? Do we change? Do we change anything? Add anything. And. Lesson that we learned was , you really have to do relationship building early on. . And it's you can't just put just the work first because then everyone will burn out. If you only do work, you need to check the balance. I wish. And something that we experimented with was working sessions. So outside of the meetings have additional time just to just chill and also do work and also just get to know each other. [00:52:36] Iris: Okay. Let's see. So next one, next set of questions is about the training content. What is thinking about the training content, is there anything that you think has worked really well in terms of the training that the counselors have been given and the peer counseling team has created? [00:52:53] Phibi: For the training content, we actually leaned a lot in the different community organizations that were in contact with. For example, the Asian [00:53:00] American peer counseling. We pulled some of their readings from the reading library to help us do work to figure out what the readings for the counselors. We both found their library and also with Project let's we we're in contact with them and we able to purchase the training for the ERs and also invite Stephanie from project lets to do a debrief, which is really nice. But also cost the budget too. And so for costed money as well. [00:53:22] Phibi: So having a balance of something that would cost money and also something that would be free as well, such as Asian American food concert, the time and also. Having a good mix of experiences and knowledge from the depend team. I know that some other folks are , they've done peer counseling before, or they even are therapists in training. [00:53:37] Iris: That's really important. Makes sense. Little more project labs this outside. And what it aepc those outside organizations that you've worked with. What do you think is an impact of kinda outsourcing some of that training to other organizations rather than having peer counsel team develop everything on their own? [00:53:54] Phibi: Yeah, I think impact one of the financial aspect of oh, you have to pay a good amount for project lots. And also but it did [00:54:00] also take some. Some pressure off of the team to to do more of  [00:54:03] Phibi: for example, I think crisis training is difficult and so I think having outsourcing that made things a lot easier. And working with folks who , have had real, hands on experience in the field before, which is why I'll talk about outsourcing think was helpful. We do have a balance. [00:54:17] Phibi: We have. Training session. That's just us. Yeah. [00:54:20] Iris: Okay. And then is there any additional training that you think maybe would've been helpful to include? Or it would be helpful to include in the future? Yeah.  [00:54:30] Phibi: Oh, and then I actually have one more answer for the previous question as well.  [00:54:33] Iris: Sorry. Yeah. Go for it. [00:54:34] Phibi: Yeah. And then also outsourcing to other organizations helps build relationships, with the other organizations too, for example, Asian American for counseling, they actually I think they were in the process trying to help other organizations start for counseling. And so it was kinda mutually beneficial and it didn't feel transactional and I felt I genuine to do this with them. And then to go back to the current question about what additional training would be helpful yeah, I think rather than outsourcing to have a [00:55:00] direct hands on training us with knowledge that we have I think that would be cool. And then also some somatic training or for example, How do you self-regulate your body when you're triggered? Those type of practices meditation or movement, I think those can help dreams.  [00:55:13] Iris: Awesome. Great. Okay. And these are the last set of questions. And this is thinking about the future of the program. So first do you think we should continue the program? What would the impact be if we did or if we didn't? [00:55:26] Phibi: I think we should continue the program. I think the only limiting factor is budget for training and just fast of the planning team at the time. I think, excuse me, I think it's hard to gauge how future peer counseling programs would be , because this palette took more than. I think two years to implement. And so for example, the next one would just be , it would just be ready to go probably a year, less than a year, season for example. And so it would take less time to do it. And so it would actually would be easier to continue the program I think cause we have the foundation already set up and would just be revising over time. [00:55:58] Phibi: I think in terms of more specific [00:56:00] impact, we'd be. We to get to train more and more folks at Lavender Phoenix. And it could even be in a similar way to how there's seasonal fundraising where folks get trained every season ish. And so eventually, if folks wanted to, good number of folks at Lavender Phoenix could be trained in prayer counseling at some point, which is really cool. And also it helps us meet our healing justice goal. And it also accomplish the task of Supporting community members along the way. [00:56:25] Iris: Awesome. Ok. And then my last question is, do you have any recommendations for continuing this program beyond the pilot?  [00:56:33] Iris: Yeah. Yeah, I think as I said, the seasonal format probably be good. But the key difference would. This pilot actually only has one session with a participant. But in the future, I think it would be great to have more than one session, multiple sessions. And impact of that would be , they see their pre more often or Yeah, more than once. Yeah, because you can't just settle everything in just one session. Usually that consistency is really helpful for folks.  [00:56:54] Iris: Yeah. Okay. Do you have anything else that you would to say? Any of these questions?  [00:56:59] Iris: I'm good.  [00:56:59] Iris: [00:57:00] Awesome. Okay, then will stop the right now. That concludes our episode if you want to organize alongside lavender Phoenix, you can join us. Follow us at L a V p H O E N I X laugh Phoenix on Instagram and find us at lavender, phoenix.org. [00:57:19]  Miko Lee: Thank you so much for joining us. Please check out our website, kpfa.org backslash program, backslash apex express to find out more about the show tonight and to find out how you can take direct action. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating and sharing your visions with the world. Your voices are important. Apex express is produced by Miko Lee Jalena Keane-Lee and Paige Chung and special editing by Swati Rayasam. Thank you so much to the KPFA staff for their support have a great night.  Apex express Asian Pacific expression. 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Welcome to The Imagine Belonging at Work Podcast brought to you by Rhodes Perry Consulting.Once again, I'm honored to introduce you to the incredible thought leadership of Dr. Bianca Laureano. Dr. Laureano is the Foundress of ANTE UP, an organization she started after noticing the needs of many communities doing justice work but finding limited support in their own growth and development. Today, we conclude our special 3-part learning series on the critical topic of intersectionality. We'll discuss the concrete, specific actions we can take to begin dismantling systems of dominance. These systems include white supremacy culture, patriarchy, ableism and nativism. We also talk about resources available for inclusive leader who want to discover how to take an intersectional approach while creating a culture of belonging.

On this episode: Women's ways - Using Art & Ritual to Organize for Social Justice Issues How Mothers Impact Who We BE Wisdom Institute, Detroit Activists Passing the Torch To Those In The Next Generation Who Will Lead the Cause On this episode, I speak to women who are artists, activist, ritualistic, healers and more about the Transforming Power Fund Grant on which we are working together. We share the fabric of our personalities as we talk about what is in our mother's gardens and how we have been shaped by who our mothers are. Wisdom Institute is a grass root, African American womanhood/girlhood-focused 501c3 in Detroit. We promote gender equity, inclusivity, healing justice revolutionary love, and accountability in life and leadership so that all girls and women know power. African American womanist-led advocates who care about Healing Justice, We would like to connect with you -- if you are interested in gracious space, revolutionary love of Self, Sisterhood and the Power of Collective Voices. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10pjiW6njT38DW6hP8fCrPVx1He4NsblEcDXI6xxBqXw/viewform?edit_requested=true#start=invite Bio Sanaa Green is a Divine Feminine spiritual teacher who helps women see their sacred essence through Nature, Sound (Center Her Power Podcast) and Belly Dance. In 2007, Sanaa began teaching Healing Belly Dance that has evolved in Belly Dance for Earth and Soul, Dance of the Priestess course. Her purpose is to support the reestablishment of the Divine Feminine principal in Black Women. She is a Lemurian Earth Priestess with Tantric orientation, Belly Dance Teacher, Urban Nature Lover, Reiki Master, Feng Shui Consultant, Environmental Educator, Community Activist and a contributing Creative in the Wisdom Institutes' Passing The Torch Preserving the The Flame non-profit, transformational Womynst program. Sanaa has been spiritually trained in Black Hat Sect Tantric Buddhist Feng Shui, Reiki, Belly Dance, Dagara Elemental Rituals and more. Her academic training includes; Masters work in Ecopsychology at Naropa University and a BA in Communications from Howard University. Sanaa combines knowledge of energy and nature offers these learnshops plus others upon request: Belly Dance for Earth And Soul: Spiritual Embodiment Course Awakening the Goddess: Spiritual Awakening Basics Spiritual Mysteries of the Earth Elements When God Was A Woman - The journey of the Divine Feminine from power to desecration and back. To connect with Sanaa: website: www.centerherpower.com Instagram: centerherpowerpodcast --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sanaa-green0/message

Healing is justice, but what does this look like in practice? Learn more about the importance of individual and community healing with 3 healing justice advocates: Meda DeWitt, Arlana Bennett, and Michelle Brass.  Meda's Tlingit names are Tśa Tsée Naakw, Khaat kłaat, adopted Iñupiaq name is Tigigalook, and adopted Cree name is Boss Eagle Spirit Woman “Boss.” Her clan is Naanyaa.aayí and she is a child of the Kaach.aadi. Her family comes from Shtuxéen kwaan (now referred to as Wrangell, AK.) Meda's lineage also comes from Oregon, Washington, and the BC/Yukon Territories. Currently she lives on Dena'ina lands in Anchorage, Alaska with her fiancé James “Chris” Paoli and their eight children. Meda's work revolves around the personal credo “Leave a world that can support life and a culture worth living for.” Her work experience draws from her training as an Alaska Native traditional healer, traditional foods educator, and Healthy Native Communities capacity building facilitator. Arlana Redsky is Anishinaabe and a member of the Shoal Lake 40 First Nation in northwestern Ontario. She is a Ph.D. student in the Faculty of Native Studies at the University of Alberta, and a faculty member of the Summer Internship Program for Indigenous Peoples in Genomics (SING Canada). Arlana's current areas of research and specialization include wildlife disease management, wildlife conservation, Indigenous harvesting rights, posthumanist ecology, and historical-contemporary multi-species entanglements in the Colonialocene. Hi, I'm Michelle Brass, I am a writer, speaker, entrepreneur, and coach deeply committed to the health and well-being of Indigenous peoples and communities. Currently, much of my work is focused on the areas of Indigenous food sovereignty and the impacts of climate change, Indigenous health and wellness, personal healing and transformation, and the empowerment of Indigenous women. MichelleBrass.com Additional Resources ICA Blog: Healing Justice: ICA's New Pathway Panel at the Indigenous Economics Conference on Healing Justice Webinar: "Climate Crisis, Fragmentation & Collective Trauma" discussion with Eriel Deranger, Bayo Akomolafe, Angaangaq Angakkorsuaw and Gabor Mate Book: My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies (Resmaa Menakem) Follow ICA on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook IndigenousClimateAction.com The ICA Pod Team is made up of Lindsey Bacigal, Morningstar Derosier, and Brina Romanek.

Adam D-F. Stevens (he|they), MA, RDT, is a Registered Drama Therapist (RDT) who works at the Cooke School & Institute guiding young people with developmental differences. He is the Artistic Director of the Collideoscope Repertory Theatre Company (CRTC) in the NYU Steinhardt program in Drama Therapy. He serves as an adjunct faculty member in the Drama Therapy programs at Antioch University in Seattle and Marymount Manhattan College in NYC. He sits on the Board of Directors for the North American Drama Therapy Association (NADTA) as Chair of the Cultural Humility, Equity, and Diversity Committee. Inspired by Robert Landy's Role Method and Role Theory in drama therapy, Adam has presented on and is developing the Black American Role Taxonomy, or BART, offering space for Black clients to reclaim racialized roles and deconstruct stereotypes appropriated by privileged others. In his clinical artistry, Adam looks to center the voices and experiences of marginalized populations. Contact him at: as840@nyu.edu

Black Queer Feminist cultural/memory worker, curator, and organizer of 30 plus years, Cara Page, join us to talk cultural memory and healing justice.   Cara is one of the architects of the healing justice political strategy, envisioned by many in the US South and deeply rooted in Black Feminist traditions and Southern Black Radical Traditions of the Global South. She is co-founder and current leadership team member of the Kindred Southern Healing Justice Collective.  She is also the former ED of The Audre Lorde Project, and former National Coordinator of the Committee on Women, Population & the Environment. You can learn more about her work at her, Changing Frequencies and Healing Histories on her webpage. Follow her on IG @changingfrequencies.  Learn more about the Kindred Healing Collective on their webpage.  La Cura Podcast is a project of Mijente. Please SUBSCRIBE and RATE us and write us a review! Share this episode with others! Follow us on IG at @lacurapodcast and @conmijente. You can email us at lacurapodcast@gmail.com, we want to hear from you!

Richael Faithful is a multidisclipinary folk healing artist, healing justice strategist, complex conversation facilitator, community lawyer and creative. Working from the shamanic tradition of conjure, they focus on the interactions of generational healing, practical ritual, and magic and death doulaship. Episode Highlights: Richael shares their path to finding and practicing folk healing work. We talk about the different ways Richael uses this work, particularly in groups with healing justice practices. We learn how Richael answered their shamanic calling. Richael talks about their passion for drumming and leading drum circles as ways to create communal space. They share about the importance of not only healing the individual body but also tending to the collective body. We discuss Richael's book, “Together at the Edge of the World: On Healing Justice." Web links Find more at RichaelFaithful.com Connect with Richael on Instagram & Facebook Get Richael's book, “Together at the Edge of the World: On Healing Justice” HERE. Get “The Black Trans Prayer Book” HERE.   Help us support the queer community & keep the podcast going - Support us on Patreon. Grab your FREE Guide: The Self-Confident Queer - Download it  here. Join the Queer Spirit Community Facebook group to continue the conversation and stay up to date on new episodes.   And follow us on Instagram!  Join our mailing list  to get news and podcast updates sent directly to you.