Podcast appearances and mentions of mavis beacon

SummaryIn this episode, Jack Clabby and Kayley Melton discuss their conversation with Reginald Andre, a cybersecurity expert and CEO of ARK Solvers. They explore themes of mentorship, the evolution of cybersecurity businesses, the impact of AI, team culture, and community engagement. Andre shares his journey from aspiring English teacher to successful entrepreneur, emphasizing the importance of mentorship and personal growth in the cybersecurity field. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into the importance of mentorship, innovative teaching methods, and the role of AI in personal and professional development. They share personal anecdotes about mentoring students and children, emphasizing hands-on learning and real-world applications. The discussion also touches on the fun and insightful lifestyle polygraph segment, where the guest answers quirky questions that reveal his personality and approach to challenges.TakeawaysAndre is a natural mentor who emphasizes actionable advice.The importance of building a fantasy board of directors.Reginald's journey from CompUSA to CEO of ARK Solvers.The shift from IT to cybersecurity in business.AI's growing role in cybersecurity and business efficiency.Hiring based on personality and cultural fit over technical skills.Encouraging a culture of learning from mistakes.The impact of community engagement on personal growth.The significance of mentorship in shaping careers.Raising awareness on critical social issues like human trafficking. Mentorship can significantly impact a student's career trajectory.Hands-on learning is more effective than traditional lectures.Building a resume starts with taking initiative in school activities.AI can serve as a valuable tool for decision-making and mentorship.Creating a community around learning can enhance educational experiences.Students should actively seek internships and opportunities before graduation.Innovative teaching methods can fill gaps in traditional education systems.Personal anecdotes can illustrate the effectiveness of mentorship.Engaging with technology early can lead to better career prospects.Networking and building relationships are crucial for professional growth.TitlesMentorship in Cybersecurity: Lessons from Reginald AndreThe Evolution of Cybersecurity: From IT to AIBuilding a Strong Team Culture in CybersecurityCommunity Engagement: Making a Difference Beyond BusinessSound Bites"Andre is such a natural mentor.""I built my fantasy board of directors.""I had to pivot my business.""AI is not going to take your job.""I always leave him with something.""He was actually building his resume.""Everything has to be hands-on.""I would do Too Fast Too Furious.""You'd be tasked with AI education."Chapters00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity Mentorship01:56 The Journey of Reginald Andre05:58 From IT to Cybersecurity: A Business Evolution11:55 The Impact of AI on Cybersecurity17:52 Building a Strong Team Culture22:05 Community Engagement and Personal Growth27:39 Mentorship and Impact30:21 Innovative Teaching Approaches34:04 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun and Insightful Questions

Welcome back to Pursuing Pixels.  We've got the usual trio in the house once again — each of us with a game that we've been sinking some (pretty) serious time into — so let's get right into the action! John gets the ball rolling this week with a little Mavis Beacon inspired bullet hell action, and gives some first impressions on Glyphica: Typing Survival. Randall takes the baton from there, and digs into his early impressions on his time with Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow, after finally digging into the game in earnest. Finally, Kevin wraps things up with some thoughts on Paper Mario: Color Splash, as he continues to flesh out his collection of physical Wii U games & fires up the game for the first time.   Timestamps: Glyphica: Typing Survival  -  00:03:04 Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow  -  00:13:07 Paper Mario: Color Splash  -  00:24:42   Thanks for taking the time to listen!  If you'd like to find us elsewhere on the Internet, you can find us at:   

Five years and 100 episodes later, we've hit episode (1)69 again! As we did before, today we're turning video games into dating sims. You may be asking, "But why?" And we would be answering, "We don't know." Todd is taking us to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by dating sims. Matt is taking us to a place that's already been corrupted by dating. Kyle is taking us to a place that, maybe, we shouldn't corrupt. The title of this week's episode was selected by our Patrons in our Discord Community! If you want to help us choose the next one, join our discord, and/or get some bonus content, become part of #ButtThwompNation at patreon.com/debatethiscast! Have you seen out Patreon? patreon.com/debatethiscast Have you seen our Instagram? instagram.com/debatethiscast Have you seen our Threads? threads.net/debatethiscast Want to send us an email? debatethiscast@gmail.com MERCH! We have that! Right now you can go on the internet and order things that say Debate This! On them! All you need to do is head to MerchThis.net and give us your money! Ever wanted socks with the DT! logo on them? Well now you can get em! One more time that website is MerchThis.net! Properties we talked about this week: Math Blaster, Words with Friends, Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, Magic the Gathering Arena, Stardew Valley, Typing of the Dead Music for Debate This! is provided by composer Ozzed under a creative commons license. Check out more of their 8-bit bops at www.ozzed.net!

On Truth & Movies this week, we discuss The Wedding Banquet, a filmmaker goes on a quest to meet a touch typing icon in Seeking Mavis Beacon, Rogan Graham is here to talk to us about her BFI season The Black Debutantes and finally, for film club, The Wedding Banquet (1993)Joining host Leila Latif are Cheyenne Bart-Stewart and Laura Venning.Truth & Movies is the podcast from the film experts at Little White Lies, where along with selected colleagues and friends, they discuss the latest movie releases. Truth & Movies has all your film needs covered, reviewing the latest releases big and small, talking to some of the most exciting filmmakers, keeping you across important industry news, and reassessing great films from days gone by with the Truth & Movies Film Club.Email: truthandmovies@tcolondon.comBlueSky and Instagram: @LWLiesProduced by TCO Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We’re baaaaaaaaaaaaack!!! And long overdue - we know! Let’s just say life has been LIFEing but we finally got together and sat down in studio in Melbourne to record Season 6 of the pod!! On this first episode, we’re catching you up on what we’ve been up to, where we’re at, our first ever live podcasting experience at Beyond the Valley Festival and everything in-between. We’re also talking about ‘Life Before The Internet’. As millennials we def remember life pre- and post-internet, so we discuss the benefits and challenges that come with it. Mavis Beacon anyone?! Tune in to hear our tales of learning the internet and navigating this complex world we live in. We had the pleasure of recording this season at Bittersweet Studios (@bittersweet.studios_) The gorgeous set up for this season was done by the amazing Pink Lady Picnics: (@pinkladypicnics) We'd love to hear from you! Facebook: It's Layered Podcast Instagram: @itslayered Twitter: @itslayeredpod TikTok: @itslayered Email: itslayeredpod@gmail.com Website: www.itslayeredpodcast.com #ItsLayeredPodcast #LifeBeforeTheInternet #BeyondTheValley #Season6 #BittersweetStudios #PinkLadyPicnics #bespokepicnics #Zimbabwe #Zimbos #Twimbos #blackgirlpodcast #iHeart #BlakCastNetworkSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Are you a victim of shiny ham? Did you think it was like shiny beef (which is fine), ate it, and your hands fell off? Then are we the legal team for you! We will personally sue the pig who produced your ham that went shiny. If they're already dead, we'll sue their piglets. We will get you your money back! But not your hands, those are long gone. Actually, can you bring your hands to our law office? We want to see fallen-off hands, just for our own curiosity. And while you visit, we might play you an episode of Regular Features in which Matt finds out Mavis Beacon wasn't real, Log starts but - crucially - does not finish a feature, and Joe makes a startling discovery inside an audio illusion. DON'T DELAY IF YOU ATE BAD HAM.

Fatima's feature film scores include: Atlantics, La Abuela, Seeking Mavis Beacon, and Skincare. Fatima's musical releases include: Desert Strike, Brute, Shaneera, and more recently Medieval Femme and Gumar.

In this episode, I give a movie review of the documentary Seeking Mavis Beacon. It's a documentary about the software called Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing that came out in the 1980's. The filmmakers are seeking to meet Renee L'Esperance the model who was the face of Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing. I also give advice on how to trust the Cosmic Plan of your life (whatever cosmic; means to you).

Today on "Words On Film", Dan Burke reviews: "Never Let Go" "Speak No Evil" "Seeking Mavis Beacon" "¡Casa Bonita Mi Amor!" "Linda Perry: Let It Die Here" Mr. Burke also gives a spoken word preview of movies subject to being released into theaters for the week of September 23rd - 27th, 2024.

On this week's show, Megan and Dave watched SPEAK NO EVIL (2:29), writer-director James Watkins' remake of the Danish film from 2022. As with many non-American horror films remade for American audiences, the new SPEAK NO EVIL leaves the original's first two-thirds relatively unchanged and then kicks the last third in the ass, replacing it with a watered down ending that, while not entirely stupid, ain't exactly aces. (That being said, the Danish original is extreme. Take a listen to our reactions to it here.) So while we weren't enamored of this new version, we think leads Mackenzie Davis and James McAvoy (at 100 percent) do excellent work, and the changes do have a few good moments sprinkled in. (And Megan likes Aisling Franciosi's performance, too.) Then we talk about SEEKING MAVIS BEACON, a documentary by director Jazmin Jones about her attempts, along with producer Olivia McKayla Ross, to find Renée L'Esperance, the Haitian (and original) model for the software program Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing. We had varied reactions, with Dave being more forgiving (!!) than Megan and Evan, who feel the film is dragged down by its pacing and all the problems that can come with uneven editing. Over on Patreon, we watched another movie that has a big twist: PRIMAL FEAR with Richard Gere, Laura Linney, and Edward Norton. It was a first-time watch for Evan, and we have fun talking about how the ending and wheether it holds up 28 years later.

In Seeking Mavis Beacon, director Jazmin Jones and her filmic collaborator Olivia McKayla Ross try to solve a cyber mystery: What became of the elegant Black woman featured on the cover of a groundbreaking learn-to-type software program? The young sleuths discuss the complex cultural truths exposed by their quixotic quest. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Burnie and Ashley discuss immune strategies, the politics of illness, Elon's domination of orbit, Beetlejuice's giant gap, the Shaun of the Dead re-release, Halloween in Scotland, paralympic takebacks, and the sinister mystery of Mavis Beacon.Support our podcast at: https://www.patreon.com/morningsomewhere

Seeking Mavis Beacon might just be your type. Special guest Jazmin Jones, director and DIY detective behind the new documentary, recently sat down with Jon Negroni for a conversation about online privacy, internet nostalgia, and of course, Letterboxd reviews. In the late 80s and throughout the 1990s, millions of people for the first time learned how to touch type, that is the style of typing on a computer without looking at the keys, through a software program called Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing. While it went through numerous iterations over the years, Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing featured a Black businesswoman in its tutorials. A woman people assumed was a real person named Mavis Beacon but was in fact someone else entirely. In real life, the original Mavis Beacon was Renee L'Esperance, a Haitian model. And she mysteriously vanished decades ago. In the new documentary distributed by Neon, titled Seeking Mavis Beacon, director Jazmin Jones and her co-collaborator Olivia McKayla Ross set out to uncover what happened to Renee and why. It's a documentary about who owns and controls our public identities and personas, even in the earliest days of the internet. All the way to the present day, when artificial intelligence continues to poke at these polarizing questions in the name of corporate profit. Seeking Mavis Beacon premiered at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival and is now playing in limited theaters. Our intro music is "Time goes by slowly" by Ujan Music Radio. Links: Email your feedback for the show to cinemaholicspodcast [at] gmail.com Join our Discord and chat with us! We have a Cinemaholics channel here. Want to hear yourself on the show? Leave us a voicemail using The “Swell” App. You can ask us questions, bring up a news topic, or share whatever else might be on your mind. Check out our Cinemaholics Merch! Check out our Patreon to support Cinemaholics! Connect with Cinemaholics on Facebook and Instagram. Support our show on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cinemaholicsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Send us a textWelcome to Flashback Friday! We're bringing back a documentary that we covered this past January at Sundance 2024, and is in theaters now!Seeking Mavis Beacon is a documentary that follows the investigation into what happened to one of the most influential Black women in technology who has been missing from the public eye since 1995. Director/investigator Jazmin Jones and associate producer/investigator Olivia McKayla Ross sit down with us to share how they met, how they learned to lean into the discomfort of the process, and servile fembots and marginalized bodies in the tech industry.Buy tickets for Seeking Mavis Beacon here!Follow Seeking Mavis Beacon on IGFollow director Jazmin Jones on IGFollow producer Olivia McKayla Ross on IGSupport the showThanks for listening and for your support! We couldn't have reached 11 years, recorded 800+ episodes, and won Best of the Bay Best Podcast in 2022 and 2023 without your help! -- Be well, stay safe, Black Lives Matter, AAPI Lives Matter, and abortion is normal. -- Subscribe to our channel on YouTube for behind the scenes footage! Rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! Visit our website! www.bitchtalkpodcast.com Follow us on Instagram & Facebook Listen every Tuesday at 9 - 10 am on BFF.FM

AnandTech Shuts Down, Brazil Bans X, Alexa Revamp Ask Claude: Amazon turns to Anthropic's AI for Alexa revamp Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Held Over Alleged Child Protection Failures on App Telegram founder Pavel Durov transferred from police custody to court after arrest in France Brazil judge orders suspension of Elon Musk's X Elon Musk, Tesla (TSLA) Beat Suit Over Promoting Dogecoin 'Pyramid Scheme' End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell Oprah, Sam Altman, and MKBHD walk into a TV show about AI and it's not a joke Court orders a new hearing for Adnan Syed in 'Serial' case. Here's what to know Tom Hanks warns followers to be wary of 'fraudulent' ads using his likeness through AI China's AI Engineers Are Secretly Accessing Banned Nvidia Chips 'Seeking Mavis Beacon' Review: A Search for a Black Luminary Host: Leo Laporte Guests: Doc Rock, Louis Maresca, and Wesley Faulkner Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: flashpoint.io bitwarden.com/twit NetSuite.com/TWIT Fundrise.com/TWIT Melissa.com/twit

AnandTech Shuts Down, Brazil Bans X, Alexa Revamp Ask Claude: Amazon turns to Anthropic's AI for Alexa revamp Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Held Over Alleged Child Protection Failures on App Telegram founder Pavel Durov transferred from police custody to court after arrest in France Brazil judge orders suspension of Elon Musk's X Elon Musk, Tesla (TSLA) Beat Suit Over Promoting Dogecoin 'Pyramid Scheme' End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell Oprah, Sam Altman, and MKBHD walk into a TV show about AI and it's not a joke Court orders a new hearing for Adnan Syed in 'Serial' case. Here's what to know Tom Hanks warns followers to be wary of 'fraudulent' ads using his likeness through AI China's AI Engineers Are Secretly Accessing Banned Nvidia Chips 'Seeking Mavis Beacon' Review: A Search for a Black Luminary Host: Leo Laporte Guests: Doc Rock, Louis Maresca, and Wesley Faulkner Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: flashpoint.io bitwarden.com/twit NetSuite.com/TWIT Fundrise.com/TWIT Melissa.com/twit

AnandTech Shuts Down, Brazil Bans X, Alexa Revamp Ask Claude: Amazon turns to Anthropic's AI for Alexa revamp Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Held Over Alleged Child Protection Failures on App Telegram founder Pavel Durov transferred from police custody to court after arrest in France Brazil judge orders suspension of Elon Musk's X Elon Musk, Tesla (TSLA) Beat Suit Over Promoting Dogecoin 'Pyramid Scheme' End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell Oprah, Sam Altman, and MKBHD walk into a TV show about AI and it's not a joke Court orders a new hearing for Adnan Syed in 'Serial' case. Here's what to know Tom Hanks warns followers to be wary of 'fraudulent' ads using his likeness through AI China's AI Engineers Are Secretly Accessing Banned Nvidia Chips 'Seeking Mavis Beacon' Review: A Search for a Black Luminary Host: Leo Laporte Guests: Doc Rock, Louis Maresca, and Wesley Faulkner Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: flashpoint.io bitwarden.com/twit NetSuite.com/TWIT Fundrise.com/TWIT Melissa.com/twit

AnandTech Shuts Down, Brazil Bans X, Alexa Revamp Ask Claude: Amazon turns to Anthropic's AI for Alexa revamp Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Held Over Alleged Child Protection Failures on App Telegram founder Pavel Durov transferred from police custody to court after arrest in France Brazil judge orders suspension of Elon Musk's X Elon Musk, Tesla (TSLA) Beat Suit Over Promoting Dogecoin 'Pyramid Scheme' End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell Oprah, Sam Altman, and MKBHD walk into a TV show about AI and it's not a joke Court orders a new hearing for Adnan Syed in 'Serial' case. Here's what to know Tom Hanks warns followers to be wary of 'fraudulent' ads using his likeness through AI China's AI Engineers Are Secretly Accessing Banned Nvidia Chips 'Seeking Mavis Beacon' Review: A Search for a Black Luminary Host: Leo Laporte Guests: Doc Rock, Louis Maresca, and Wesley Faulkner Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: flashpoint.io bitwarden.com/twit NetSuite.com/TWIT Fundrise.com/TWIT Melissa.com/twit

AnandTech Shuts Down, Brazil Bans X, Alexa Revamp Ask Claude: Amazon turns to Anthropic's AI for Alexa revamp Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Held Over Alleged Child Protection Failures on App Telegram founder Pavel Durov transferred from police custody to court after arrest in France Brazil judge orders suspension of Elon Musk's X Elon Musk, Tesla (TSLA) Beat Suit Over Promoting Dogecoin 'Pyramid Scheme' End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell Oprah, Sam Altman, and MKBHD walk into a TV show about AI and it's not a joke Court orders a new hearing for Adnan Syed in 'Serial' case. Here's what to know Tom Hanks warns followers to be wary of 'fraudulent' ads using his likeness through AI China's AI Engineers Are Secretly Accessing Banned Nvidia Chips 'Seeking Mavis Beacon' Review: A Search for a Black Luminary Host: Leo Laporte Guests: Doc Rock, Louis Maresca, and Wesley Faulkner Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: flashpoint.io bitwarden.com/twit NetSuite.com/TWIT Fundrise.com/TWIT Melissa.com/twit

AnandTech Shuts Down, Brazil Bans X, Alexa Revamp Ask Claude: Amazon turns to Anthropic's AI for Alexa revamp Telegram CEO Pavel Durov Held Over Alleged Child Protection Failures on App Telegram founder Pavel Durov transferred from police custody to court after arrest in France Brazil judge orders suspension of Elon Musk's X Elon Musk, Tesla (TSLA) Beat Suit Over Promoting Dogecoin 'Pyramid Scheme' End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell Oprah, Sam Altman, and MKBHD walk into a TV show about AI and it's not a joke Court orders a new hearing for Adnan Syed in 'Serial' case. Here's what to know Tom Hanks warns followers to be wary of 'fraudulent' ads using his likeness through AI China's AI Engineers Are Secretly Accessing Banned Nvidia Chips 'Seeking Mavis Beacon' Review: A Search for a Black Luminary Host: Leo Laporte Guests: Doc Rock, Louis Maresca, and Wesley Faulkner Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: flashpoint.io bitwarden.com/twit NetSuite.com/TWIT Fundrise.com/TWIT Melissa.com/twit

A new documentary investigates the disappearance and reexamines the legacy of the woman who helped people worldwide learn to type. "Seeking Mavis Beacon” director Jazmin Renée Jones and producer Olivia McKayla Ross join us to discuss their exploration of the application software program released in 1987 and the woman whose face was on the package.

In this not-episode, Madelyn and Emma talk about edutainment games and the true story of Mavis Beacon. Also featuring the lack of historical fiction games, classic novel visual novels, and history repeating itself.

We've got a FIERY episode for you today! Ava comes out red hot and reminisces about Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, going to the dentist to freeze her face, the summer heat, a story about accidentally going commando, paying honest compliments, being the 'supporting character' in a viral video, getting the best most validating comment for a trans woman from a cis lady, and then ending on a super positive note about spreading kindness and giving compliments to strangers.

From our 05-06 April 2024 show, we dissolve hotel walls, bring our mini-horse in to eat, fake a double-booking, talk to trash, complain about lewd music lyrics, get concerning voicemails, involve ourselves in hotel construction, hear lots of noise on the line, sing as a barbershop quartet, and look for a big bed. Features calls […]

This week we're highlighting three Sundance Film Festival films that deal with the effects of racism in America.As We Speak is a documentary that follows Bronx rap artist Kemba as he explores how rap lyrics are being weaponized in the criminal justice system. Director J.M. Harper and subject Kemba discuss how the film is like a song, the inadequacies of the criminal justice system, and how the story is not over.Seeking Mavis Beacon is a documentary that follows the investigation into what happened to one of the most influential Black women in technology who has been missing from the public eye since 1995. Director/investigator Jazmin Jones and associate producer/investigator Olivia McKayla Ross sit down with us to share how they met, how they learned to lean into the discomfort of the process, and servile fembots and marginalized bodies in the tech industry.Finally, we close things out at the red carpet premiere of The American Society of Magical Negroes, with fun chats with director Kobi Libii, and stars Justice Smith and David Alan Grier.Follow director J.M. Harper on IGFollow rapper Kemba on IGFollow Seeking Mavis Beacon on IGFollow director Jazmin Jones on IGFollow producer Olivia McKayla Ross on IGFollow director Kobi Libii on IGFollow talent Justice Smith on IGFollow talent David Alan Grier on IGSupport the showThanks for listening and for your support! We couldn't have reached 10 years, 700 episodes or Best of the Bay Best Podcast in 2022 & 2023 without your help! -- Be well, stay safe, Black Lives Matter, AAPI Lives Matter, and abortion is normal. -- Subscribe to our channel on YouTube for behind the scenes footage! Rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts! Visit our website! www.bitchtalkpodcast.com Follow us on Instagram & Facebook Listen every Tuesday at 9 - 10 am on BFF.FM

In this week's episode of the Black Girl Nerds podcast, we welcome filmmakers and e-girl investigators Jazmin Jones and Olivia McKayla Ross of the new documentary Seeking Mavis Beacon. From feature debut filmmaker Jazmin Jones and their collaborator/associate producer Olivia McKayla Ross, Seeking Mavis Beacon follows the pair as they seek to untangle the mystery of the iconic Mavis Beacon, a predecessor to familiar AI figures such as Siri and Alexa and the face of popular 90s' educational software Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing. Jones and Ross discover that the cover model when the game was created in Silicon Valley in 1986 was a Haitian woman named Renee L'esperance who was last seen in 1994. As they attempt to find her, they conduct a thorough examination of her legacy representing that which taught thousands of people how to type.  Host: Jamie Music by: Sammus Edited by: Jamie Broadnax

Pay up! Trump ordered to pay 83M in defamation damages, diversity blamed for defective airplanes, new federal regulations on Native museum displays, D'Angelo's creative journey, and did a Black woman teach you how to type?  NewsTrump ordered to pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3M in defamation damages trialHow right-wing influencers turned airplanes and airports into culture war battlegrounds‘Seeking Mavis Beacon': The Wild Search for a Tech Icon Who Isn't RealLeading Museums Remove Native Displays Amid New Federal RulesToday In Hip Hop History: D'Angelo Dropped His Sophormore Album 'Voodoo' 24 Years Ago  

Jazmin Joes and Olivia McKayla Ross are the creative minds behind the documentary, Seeking Mavis Beacon. The feature, which premiered at Sundance 2024, investigates the disappearance and reexamines the legacy of one of the most influential Black women in technology. The documentary also explores topics like ethics, consent, and having a healthy relationship with technology.  In today's episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, speaks with Director Jazmin Jones and Associate Producer Olivia McKayla Ross, to discuss: How Jazmin and Olivia met and started working together The benefit of not having a film career prior to making the project Why the investigation itself was the priority over the film  How they built the digital world of the film Consent - how it became part of the narrative Community organizing versus filmmaking How street photography taught Jazmin about the importance of consent The power of using search engines  How they created a safe, beautiful space in their headquarters Asking for what you need and what you want Why you should follow your instincts  The magical experience seeing other people react to the film Memorable Quotes “More than using the language of the film industry, we were using the language of collective organizing.” [7:15] “In community organizing, you're thinking of the long term impacts of the things you are doing.” [13:20] “The longer it takes you to ask for the thing you suspect you might need, the more it costs you.” [27:25] “Having a room of people laugh at my dad's dad jokes is like the best thing in the world.” [30:16] Mentioned: Seeking Mavis Beacon Follow Jazmin on IG Follow Olivia on IG  Unpacking the Ethical Minefield of Docs with the Team Behind ‘Subject' Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web https://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter  https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube  https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam discusses the new documentary out of the Sundance Film Festival: Seeking Mavis Beacon. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/beware-of-spoilers/support

Never before have we faced such a challenge as this: coming up with a year name that rhymes with "four". It's so unusual that it even caused a shift in the brother energy, so now there's a new Justin and we sure hope he remembers his Mavis Beacon lessons. Suggested talking points: Not Every Bridge Goes to Somewhere, Limited Totemic Energy, The MB in MBMBaM is Mavis Beacon, Painted with the Color of Paranoia World Central Kitchen: https://wck.org/

(Tinny fanfare of trumpets and Sousaphones like the beginning of newsreels in old timey movies begins) The Business Device Hall of Fame, located in the heart of Gary, Indiana, ( near Jermaine Jackson's son Jermajesty's restaurant Jermajesty's Steak and Crepes) better make room for a brand new exhibit because this week's thesis for the Overlap Podcast is going to be the biggest thing for business - even better than when Mavis Beacon taught typing, more monumental than when metal was molded and bent until paper first was clipped and will make the Rolodex look like the piece of crap it truly is - a Lazy Susan for business cards. Yes, this week's central point stands tall above all other business must-haves, save only the GOAT of office supplies - the red Swingline stapler, which was only created after the intense demand from its appearance in the cult classic Mike Judge film “Office Space.” What is this Deus Ex Machina, this device from the gods themselves meant to change our world forever and always? Of course, it's the Full Focus Planner - allowing our boys Sid and Keith to further explore the furthest reaches of time management not unlike a modern day Bill S. Preston, Esquire, and Theodore Logan (minus the phone booth and Death, obviously). The pair's excitement for the Full Focus Planner is catchier than Pink Eye and will likely be just as contagious, as our boys share the joys of their new favorite toys. They'll share personal anecdotes, goals set and matched and (because their schedules are so well-managed and curated), they'll even have time to take you through the first 50 pages of their screenplay they've written - picture it, a Whodunnit murder mystery in the style of “Murder on the Orient Express” but with the Muppets as main cast and Hologram Carol Channing as the only human character. Somebody get Jack Warner on the phone - we've got his tent pole flick for next summer. (Okay, maybe not that last part, but… real talk, you'd go see that movie in theater. Or at least pay like $3 to rent and stream it one night, right?) So, Plan to Focus Fully on this week's Overlap Podcast - anyone who finishes the episode can email us to get the 10 question quiz. Score 90 or above and you'll get a coupon for $1.75 off the ticket price for “Murder on the Muppet Express,” in theaters June 2028. Get your Full Focus Planner today!   

This week we continue our Month of Mario with a look at one of the LEAST known Mario games of all time: Mario Teaches Typing. Before Nintendo learned to be overly protective over their properties, they let all sorts of companies get their hands on their mascots. The results varied, but occasionally the world got a game which was too strange to forget. But is this Mavis Beacon inspired game worth picking up, or is it nothing more than a shiny coat of Mario coloured paint on an otherwise lackluster piece of software? Before giving our impressions of the game, we give our final thoughts on The Super Mario Bros movie, and talk about the strange development history of Mario Teaches Typing. Watch our gameplay segments and full video episodes over on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/theretrogradepodcastGet monthly bonus episodes by joining our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theretrogradepodcastJoin us on Twitter: @RetrogradePod, @RetrogradeAndy, @RetrogradeMikeyTikTok: @RetrogradePodOr on Instagram: @theretrogradepodcast Or visit our website at www.theretrogradepod.com/Questions, Comments, and business inquiries can be sent to theretrogradepodcast@gmail.comShow Notes: https://www.theretrogradepod.com/episodes/mario-teaches-typing-review

Hello Fresh is releasing a $15 meal kit so you can eat like Buddy the Elf, Miller is selling a Leg Lamp Beer Tower based on "A Christmas Story", and Mavis Beacon was a made up character??

PlayStation announces it's new "Xbox Rewards" type program called PlayStation Stars. They promise it doesn't have NFTs. What We're Playing Cliff: Backbone, Power Washer Simulator Colby: Mass Effect PowerWash Simulator Dylan: Sea of Thieves News Sony Unveils a Microsoft Rewards Type Program The Team Behind Warframe is Making a F2P MMO The Sega Genesis Mini 2 is Coming to North America Wanna Get a Free Copy of Diablo 4? All of the Dragon's Age and Mass Effect Effect DLC is Free on PC You Can Trial the new PS Plus in the UK Questions DA VINSTER (Vinny): Sorry it's been so long since I've asked a question! Been busy onboarding with my new job! Question: which Entertainment Franchise whether it be games, movies, tv, etc. would you like to see get a Telltale/Dark Pictures Anthology type of game? Misshappychildhood: Have any of you read any of the twenty-eight books in the Boss Fight book series? I've read Postal and Earthbound. They are really interesting. *monotone screaming*: If you've seen any movies lately, which one was your favorite and why was it minions? Tr1pletrouble88: Subquestion: thoughts on Facebook minion memes phibo: What's the best typing video game you've played? Note: Read about Mavis Beacon! Rdeacon: What was the worst and best job you ever had? And... can a game have a sad ending and still be good? Cheap/Free Games Epic Games Shop Titans Tannenberg Xbox Game Pass Garden Story (Cloud, Console, and PC) ID@Xbox – Available now Solasta: Crown of the Magister (Cloud and Console) ID@Xbox – Available now As Dusk Falls (Cloud, Console, and PC) – July 19 Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion (PC) ID@Xbox – July 21 Watch Dogs 2 (Cloud, Console, and PC) – July 19 MotoGP 22 (Cloud, Console, and PC) – July 21 Torment: Tides of Numenera (Cloud and Console) – July 21 Inside (Cloud, Console, and PC) ID@Xbox – July 29 Humble Bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/games/outright-games-summer-break Patreon John Tippins Sean Palmer Austin Palmer Alan Schulte Dixie Normous Joe Cole Jr. Anonymous Rich Deacon Extra Life https://bytemepodcast.com/extralife/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/byte-me-podcast/message

Cern got himself a few things on Prime Day! We chatted about the typing classed we had to take in school and actually saving our work to a floppy disk. We then relived some 4th of July hijinx from our early 20s. Thanks for listening!

Does anyone remember taking a keyboarding class? Mavis Beacon and I go way back. Typing is a learned skill many developed in the classroom that allowed us to function as adults. However, editing audio/video wasn't something my generation was ever taught in school. There are technical aspects that my children know better than I do. Given content creation plays a vital role in the workplace and as learning leaders, how are we making editing easy and accessible to everyone equally? In this Learning Tech Talks, I'm hanging out with Jeff Rozic from Descript to talk about how they're taking the technical aspects of a/v editing and making it as simple as editing a Word document. All this to help content creators create faster with more professional results. As a user, I'm also excited to hear about their big update being released this week and hopefully get some details on their complete redesign. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/learningtechtalks/support

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We continue with part two of our 90s Video Game Mascot Tier List, and it is somehow dumber than the first one. Sure, there are popular mascots like Mario and Sonic on here, but they've been talked into the ground. At Queen Venerator, we discuss the mascots that actually matter, like Pipo from Overblood and Skunny Hardnut. Enjoy. Mascots Discussed: Kolibri, Kung-Fu Bunny from Brutal: Paws of Fury, Kyle “Blackthorne” Vlaros, Lara Croft, Laura Harris from D, Lemmings, Lester the Unlikely, Link, Mad Dog McCree, Marco Rossi and Tarma Roving from Metal Slug, Mario, Mavis Beacon, Mega Man, Mike Haggar, Milon from Milon's Secret Castle/DoReMi Fantasy, Mohawk and Headphone Jack, Monty Mole from Impossamole, Moogles from Final Fantasy, Morrigan Aensland, Mr. Bones, Mr. Nutz, Mutoid Man from Smash TV, Nasir from Lagoon, Ness, Nights, Oliems from Tobal No. 1, Oscar from Oscar, Packy and Marlon, Pac-Man (90's), PaRappa the Rapper, Peach the Lobster, Pepsiman, Pikachu, Pipo from Overblood, The Pipo Monkeys from Ape Escape, Plok, Pocky and Rocky, Puggsy, Pulseman, Punky Skunk, Putty from Super Putty, Quik the Thunder Rabbit, Radical Rex, Rayman, Reiko Nagase from Ridge Racer, Rex Ronan: Experimental Surgeon, Rick Taylor from Splatterhouse, Ristar, Robbit from Jumping Flash, Rocky Rodent, Ryu, Samus Aran, Santos from Trio the Punch, Scissorman, Scorpion, Segata Sanshiro, Sir Daniel Fortesque (Sir Dan) from Medievil, Sketch Turner, Skunny Hardnut, Slime from Dragon Quest, Socket, Sofia from Battle Arena Toshinden, Solid Snake, Sonic, Sparkster, Spyro, Strider Hiryu, Sweet Tooth, Tails, Tempo, Terry Bogard, The Beaver from Beavers, The Cook from PO'ed, The Master from Actraiser, The Nurses from Silent Hill, The Ooze, Titus the Fox, Toejam and Earl, Toki from Toki Going Ape Spit, Tomba, Tony Hawk, Twinbee, UmJammer Lammy, Vectorman, Voldo, Wario, Warren from Power Moves, Wex Major from Wild 9, Wild Woody, Wonder Boy, Wonder Dog, Worms, Xavier Pendragon from Eternal Champions, Yoshi, Yusaku Kudo from Last Bronx, Zebulon Pike Kingston from Cyberia, Zeke and Julie from Zombies Ate My Neighbors, Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel, Zool, Billy and Jimmy Lee, Carbuncle from Puyo Puyo

The legacy of video games about running a Lemonade Stand is much more storied than you might expect! Depending on who you ask, calling it a 20 year anniversary for Lemonade Tycoon may be an understatement! The roots of this classic business sim reach all the way back 1979 in a text based adventure on the Apple II called Lemonade Stand, and the version we've all come to know is almost a direct descendent of that game. Today we sit down with a game that managed to blend the education of a Mavis Beacon game with the silly enjoyment of a Roller Coaster Tycoon. Is the recipe still ripe for the modern day, or has our enjoyment of the formula started to melt away?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7xgRUMw9gY&t=8s Armando Armani, Sex machines, A.I, Benjamin Franklin, Alphas, Betas, Law & order, Cyber security, Mavis Beacon, Love, Missing People, Role plays, Kites, Deodorants, And a lot of fun with the crew.

Sherrell Dorsey has long been fascinated by the tech innovations coming out of Black and Brown communities across the United States. In this episode of Women on the Move, the founder and CEO of The Plug—a subscription-based digital news platform covering the Black innovation economy—sits down with host Sam Saperstein to discuss her background in marketing and technology, her journey with The Plug, and her new book. Early tech immersion Sherrell tells Sam that it was her technophile grandfather who first nurtured her love for technology by insisting that she and her sister spend an hour a day on Mavis Beacon typing courses. That early foray into tech, she says, paved the way for her to take part in a program called the Technology Access Foundation, which taught kids of color in the inner city about technology, computers, and programming languages—and helped prepare Sherrell for high-school internships at Microsoft. Sherrell says she loved her experiences at Microsoft, learning about building tech products and also realizing she could have a place at the tech table. But after high school, with her family expecting she'd go to college for computer science, she tacked in a different direction and studied fashion merchandising at the Fashion Institute of Technology. “I got to study the business of marketing within the fashion world, a multi-billion-dollar industry, and [one that] really encompasses so much technology from textile selection and forecasting to the building of an e-commerce business and brand.” Taking those marketing skills with her, Sherrell worked at both Uber and Google Fiber. But while she loved her day jobs, she found herself more and more drawn to understanding the tech world from the vantage point of Black and Brown communities. “I would keep up on industry literature and read about these great profiles of, you know, the Gates' and the Musks and the Zuckerbergs,” she tells Sam. “But I did not see the folks that I was interacting with and engaging with on a daily basis profiled or quoted. And the journalism to me just felt very one-sided. It did not identify genius as looking like, sounding like, feeling like, or coming from communities that looked like mine, but those were the people that I was inspired by.” Transition to journalist and author Sherrell remembers getting up early before heading to her job at Uber or Google Fiber and curating articles about “folks who I find really fascinating.” She was soon writing about Black and Brown tech innovations and submitting stories to publications like Fast Company. “And just trying to show the robustness of communities of innovation coming up with really cool ideas to solve specific challenges that they were facing that were being left out of this mainstream sort of noise,” she says. “Like sure robots are space. [But] here's a guy who's creating an app to exchange vegetables and fruits with neighbors on a more human level.” Soon The Plug was born—with a $10 domain registration and a free MailChimp account. Sherrell built up subscribers one at a time based on her solid reputation as the tech journalist who covered Black and Brown start-ups. “It's just about being consistent,” she tells Sam. “It's about serving my audience well, and beyond that, it was every subscriber truly earned through this sense of trust and through this sense of representative storytelling, and care and adoration, and sometimes, you know, harsh honesty.” Sometimes, she shares, she had to be the one to say, “Hey, maybe this company isn't as exciting as I thought it was gonna be.” That kind of honestly, she says, helped solidify her reputation and that of The Plug. Sherrell's most recent venture is her new book, Upper Hand: The Future of Work for the Rest of Us, just published in January 2022. She describes it as a love letter to her grandfather. Drawing on his experience of moving from Birmingham, Alabama, to Detroit and finally to Seattle where “there weren't a lot of folks who looked like him,” Sherrell wanted to illustrate her own experience along with Seattle's changes, and how that was replicated across the country in a way that left many communities behind. As far as the future, Sherrell says she's excited to have The Plug become “the intelligent source for an inclusive business future.”   Transcript here

In honor of Black History Month, Guest Expert Raven Simone (Bobdunga) stops by for a look into the mysterious history of typing icon Mavis Beacon.

This episode should have been last week and last week should have been this week. This takes place the week after Sean was absent. Mike, Bill, Sean and Dan shoot the feces for a bit. Sean thinks he's a rehab sex god. Bill angrily calls back a voicemail caller about roast beef. Dan cusses out an old job. A 5 mile rift is torn between the hosts over a singular food preference. Sean and Mike meet "glizzy". Kelly offers everyone her Milkis. We talk about throwing shit at or from cars again, but its still funny. Chicken Soup for all sorts of souls. Chicken Soup for Horse fornicators. We hit Sean with the survey, and things get goofy. One of us has smol pp.

The World Is Crazy Out There. Evan and Drew Are Here To Help You! Come Chill With Us At The Kitchen Table. Today The Boys Talk About... Evan Caught a Vibe, Mavis Beacon, Happy Birthday Podcast, Island Boys, Ghost Stories, Afterlife, Halloween Costumes, CryptoDrew, P.A. Ran Faire, Cocktober, News, No Sports This Week, Recommendations and SO SO SO Much More!!! #CancerAwareness ; #GaryVider  Please follow us on Twitter & Instagram - @IFEIF_ or send us an email imfineeverythingisfine@gmail.com Subscribe - Apple, Google, Spotify, Audible, iHeart, and YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgHG3NtNUQkyB4rLn1CnwkA 

Join StoryShout host Kelsey Jones and guest Geoffrey Wilcoxson as we discuss typing, and why Geoff sucks at it. He talks about his history with typing, how he confesses it to his coworkers, and ways to compensate for texting in the workplace and during meetings.  And of course, Mavis Beacon gets a shout-out.To learn more about StoryShout podcast advertising opportunities and guest openings, visit us at StoryShout.coAnd don't forget to leave us a review and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. You can also connect with @StoryShout on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, and Instagram.Support the show

This week, Nick and Don agree that Mothergunship is the greatest and best game ever made of all time.  Episode ends with a Resident Evil Village spoilerchat. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Games mentioned : Tales of Vesperia Mothergunship Infinite Island You Must Build a Boat Resident Evil Village News/Notes:  Froglike Soundtrack is Amazing Unused Sonic Enemy Uncovered Shorter Games with Worse Graphics Bundle Round 2 Picross S Sega Genesis Edition Milkin' It Podcast smgdh Intro/Outro Music - Charli XCX - Famous Instagram Discord Gaming on Ten intro track playlist on Spotify GamingonTen (at) gmail.com Leave us a message at 1-724-BINGOS-1 Completionator - Don Completionator - Nick For Amusement Only Podcast Virtually Human Podcast GO BUY COIN-OP CARNIVAL Tags: gaming, video games, xbox, ps4, playstation, pinball, bingo, podcast, xbo, fortnite, xboxone, xbox one, nintendo, switch, nintendo switch, arcade, ddr, stepmania, acnh, animal crossing, ps5, xbox series x, yakuza, fall guys, pizza

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On this edition of The Acc and Jack Show, Acc and Jack discuss video games! It’s actually pretty amazing when discussing such a topic makes the time go by in an instant. Jack doesn’t even get to the discussion points he planned for this one. Kicking off this episode with a grammatical curiosity, Acc and Jack discuss the old Sega Dreamcast game “Typing of the Dead.” Jack is convinced advertising for this game featured the Mavis Beacon character as a zombie. Much like “my mom’s cooking potatoes,” this could just be the Mandela effect striking again. Elsewhere, with it soon available to enjoy on PC, Acc has interest in the Kingdom Hearts series. It doesn’t help that most of the games in this series employ the weirdest naming conventions. To that end, “PC Master Race” Acc also has no idea what the new generation of game consoles are called. Wrapping up, Acc talks about one of the few instances where Nintendo disappoints. For Jack, video game disappointment comes largely in the form of “live service” games. One game that does not disappoint, however – Undertale. Do what Jack did and build a $1,000 gaming computer to enjoy it! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/hardlyfocused/support

Lindsay and Halle are back with another "versus" episode, where they emphasize their age gap by sharing two very different obsessions: Nintendogs (Halle) vs. Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing (Lindsay). From the office to the kennel, they try to convince each other (and the listeners) why these two games were obsession-worthy. Plus, stay for the end of the episode where Lindsay and Halle chat about their current obsessions. 

Hey everyone! Mitch here. I'm taking time to be with my family so Jordan decided to do whatever this is. I have not listened to or screened this in any way. Good luck!

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Oh my golly gosh, would you wrap your ears around this WHOPPER of an episode!Jonathan masters Resident Evil Revelations, is undone by the architectural malaise of Doom 3, enjoys Pokémon's recent DLC drop, hypes himself into the ionosphere with Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity's demo, bumbles around as a Part Time UFO, AND STILL finds time to dump a million hours into Pic Pic on the DS after Chris' recent glowing review!Minty lists the names of many Galarian Pokémon that Chris hasn't heard of, and nears the end of his Xenoblade Chronicle!Chris starts Mario Sunshine, then plays some casual oddities on the PC with the meditative Glass Masquerade and the Mavis Beacon approved typing adventure Backspace Bouken!Oh, and the boys get angry at Super Smash Bros Ultimate's dreadful netcode!Phew!!14’s, eh?Are you ready to hear why The Witness may be the most impressive game ever made?Are you prepared to accept that The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is the best launch title of all time?Will you let our resident JRPG aficionado sell you on the under appreciated gem Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean?3 perfect games. Honestly. Just listen!www.ourthreecents.co.uk— — — — — — — — — — Massive thanks to our Patreon subscribers Andy Smith, Gene Limbrick, CJ Anderson, Debbie Booth, Guy Lochhead, Jasper Blacketer, David Boys-Layton, Darren Hughes, Rob Wade and Chris Walker.Watch our video content on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3dZ2gmgSubscribe to our Twitch channel: www.twitch.tv/o3cpodcastHelp support us in exchange for some incredible perks: www.patreon.com/ourthreecentsBrowse the episodes from Season 1: www.ourthreecents.co.ukJoin in the conversation with us: www.facebook.com/ourthreecentsFollow us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/o3cpodcastReach out to us individually:Jonathan - www.twitter.com/jonathandunnChris - www.twitter.com/Chas_HodgesMinty - www.twitter.com/clement_boo

Oh my golly gosh, would you wrap your ears around this WHOPPER of an episode!Jonathan masters Resident Evil Revelations, is undone by the architectural malaise of Doom 3, enjoys Pokémon's recent DLC drop, hypes himself into the ionosphere with Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity's demo, bumbles around as a Part Time UFO, AND STILL finds time to dump a million hours into Pic Pic on the DS after Chris' recent glowing review!Minty lists the names of many Galarian Pokémon that Chris hasn't heard of, and nears the end of his Xenoblade Chronicle!Chris starts Mario Sunshine, then plays some casual oddities on the PC with the meditative Glass Masquerade and the Mavis Beacon approved typing adventure Backspace Bouken!Oh, and the boys get angry at Super Smash Bros Ultimate's dreadful netcode!Phew!!14's, eh?Are you ready to hear why The Witness may be the most impressive game ever made?Are you prepared to accept that The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is the best launch title of all time?Will you let our resident JRPG aficionado sell you on the under appreciated gem Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean?3 perfect games. Honestly. Just listen!www.ourthreecents.co.uk— — — — — — — — — — Massive thanks to our Patreon subscribers Andy Smith, Gene Limbrick, CJ Anderson, Debbie Booth, Guy Lochhead, Jasper Blacketer, David Boys-Layton, Darren Hughes, Rob Wade and Chris Walker.Watch our video content on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3dZ2gmgSubscribe to our Twitch channel: www.twitch.tv/o3cpodcastHelp support us in exchange for some incredible perks: www.patreon.com/ourthreecentsBrowse the episodes from Season 1: www.ourthreecents.co.ukJoin in the conversation with us: www.facebook.com/ourthreecentsFollow us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/o3cpodcastReach out to us individually:Jonathan - www.twitter.com/jonathandunnChris - www.twitter.com/Chas_HodgesMinty - www.twitter.com/clement_boo

The most fun you can have with buttons, inflatables and 99 mates - it's 50/50! Listen along as we relive the school spirit, stolen formats and shattered dreams of a kids TV game show like no other PLUS we talk about Liz's experiences of Mock Court Trial Club, David Bellamy and the Mavis Beacon school of touch typing. Want more? Follow us on Twitter (@HDYLMN1) and Instagram (@howdyalikeme)!

Should we watch The Social Dilemma on Netflix this weekend? Food review: Sir Kensington Mayonaise is amazing! Update on Kati’s next book, Liquid IV review. Environmental news: The air quality on the West Coast has us locked down in our apartment and so we continue to be on a Zillow adventure, house hunting. Game review: Would you rather play Mavis Beacon or Leisure Suit Larry? We both liked Burger Time... I’d ask a Genie for a Pinball Machine. Kati issues a statement of retraction re an episode of the Office on Netflix. Headline News: Are Tech companies Watching Users Through Cameras? Is Donald Trump on Tik Tok? Kanye West wants to own his music masters. How is Carol Baskin going to be on Dancing With The Stars? Sean’s yahoo fantasy football team is on a roll and Jeffrey Epstein was a terrible person.VOX Article European Cases of Covid-19 Kati’s Tik Tok @KatimortonSean’s Tik Tok @hatori_seanz ------ Video version of Opinions That Don't Matter https://www.youtube.com/c/OpinionsThatDontMatter Ask Kati Anything! (2nd podcast) audio: https://askkatianything.buzzsprout.com/Ordering Kati's book Are u ok? http://bit.ly/2s0mULyONLINE THERAPY I do not currently offer online therapy. BetterHelp can connect you with a licensed, online counselor. I receive commissions on referrals to BetterHelp. I only recommend services I know and trust. BUSINESS EMAIL linnea@toneymedia.com MAIL PO Box #665 1223 Wilshire Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90403Today is a great day to start your own podcast! Whether you're looking for a new marketing channel, have a message you want to share with the world, or just think it would be fun to have your own talk show...podcasting is an easy, inexpensive, and fun way to expand your reach online. CLICK HERE to get started for FREE

Elias's New Audiobook Production- When the Bard Came Visiting- https://www.audible.com/pd/When-the-Bard-Came-Visiting-Audiobook/B0885QY39Z?source_code=AUDFPWS0223189MWU-BK-ACX0-195134&%3Bref=acx_bty_BK_ACX0_195134_pd_us&ipRedirectOverride=true&overrideBaseCountry=true&pf_rd_p=5b5fbe53-dc5a-4587-86e9-b1dbc8f6efcf&pf_rd_r=8VYTM9EABFB7JN74CFZX In the eighth episode of the second season of Storysmiths, we set out to take an existing IP and grimdark it into something gritty and raw- we settle on Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, her tragic lineage and backstory, and her ultimate goal...REVENGE! We use samples from the below: Captain Phillips- Columbia Pictures (2013) Dune- Universal Studios (1984) Undercover Brother- Universal Studios (2002) The Room- TPW Films (2003) 82-year-old Woman Fights Off Burglar (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c6ogPtCwCM) Please tell us what story you'd like us to create next time on our twitter account @storysmithscast It can be an original world, or and IP you'd like to see adapted or changed in some way. Please follow the podcast on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram @storysmithscast Our theme music is The Great Forest by Visager from the album Songs From An Unmade World Check out our sister podcast Tabletop Sessions- you can find it on Instagram @tabletopsessions or on Twitter @ttsessionsqa or over at @tabletopsessions

Wiki Freaks is back to churning out 'sodes in our new digital format. In this one, Brian no longer sounds like he's on horse tranquilizers, so that's good. We discuss James Franco, Mavis Beacon, the direction "South", and other juicy topics. Don't miss this shit, it's gold.

Break out your controllers and your Surge soda because this week, Josh and Paula are talking about VIDEO GAMIN'. Paula sums up her recent experiences with Dream Daddy, Josh reminds us that Star Wars exists and the two figure out true crime podcasts in the Sims Universe. PLUS a Mavis Beacon typing challenge.  ------------------------ Logo by Ryan Cruise: https://www.instagram.com/rbcruiser Theme Song by Dylan Doetch: https://www.twitter.com/dylandoetch

Join us as we break down today's episode! Mavis Beacon. Emotional emails. Captain America. Mario Kart. What do all these things have to do with an episode of Parks And Recreation? You'll have to listen to find out silly!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/parksandrewatch)

In this episode, we mull over cars and how much vaseline dealerships need to get deals done, driving like a douche, writing off your lambo, the silicon lottery, Alexa in every house, and we live in a simulation. "If I had a 12 inch dick I'd show it off all the time." Living across the street from a bar, living in underground parking lots, getting trapped in elevators, how to load an airplane and getting refunds for delays, how Boeing is run by monkeys, CORONAVIRUS!!!111!, losing money on fights, and Mavis Beacon was the realest bitch. LONG & HARD MERCH AVAILABLE NNNNNNNNNEXT TIME YOU SEE US!! Thomas: https://www.instagram.com/thomasharrington.ca/ Josh: https://www.instagram.com/joshuablais/

Every Friday, the finest degenerate journalists on the internet serve up loud, irreverent, hilarious takes on gaming, drinking, pop culture, and everything in between. In this episode: Papa Dom, Dr. Bob, and Chris P. touch on a number of topics, including: CS:GO teams picking up lesser-known squads (and winning) Nintendo's Smash Direct sucked TFue's streamer incubator is kinda weird And more! -- Love the podcast? Support your boys! Visit the WGG Shop, follow us on Twitter, join our Discord, and subscribe to us on Twitch!

We're not taking any breaks this holiday season, so you're getting a brand new episode of Who's There! Having said that, we decided to play some of the most, excuse us, unplayable (and perhaps unforgivable) calls in lieu of more topical fare. For example, does JoJo Siwa know who Greta Thunberg is? Is Kerrygold Butter a Who or a Them? And how about this one about ranking every type of French fry from Who to Them? Lindsey even wrote and recorded a song about Hanukkah! It's really special. And by special I mean bad... but in a good way! Happy Holidays, all! Call 619.WHO.THEM and we may feature your call on a future episode!

Mavis Beacon Welcome to the History of Computing Podcast, where we explore the history of information technology. Because understanding the past prepares us for the innovations of the future! Today we're going to give thanks to a wonderful lady. A saint. The woman that taught me to type. Mavis Beacon. Over the years I often wondered what Mavis was like. She took me from a kid that was filled with wonder about these weird computers we had floating around school to someone that could type over a hundred words a minute. She always smiled. I never saw her frown once. I thought she must be a teacher somewhere. She must be a kind lady whose only goal in the world was to teach young people how to type. And indeed, she's taught over a million people to type in her days as a teacher. In fact she'd been teaching for years by the time I first encountered her. Mavis Beacon was initially written for MS-DOS in 1987 and released by The Software Toolworks. Norm Worthington, Mike Duffy joined Walt Bilofsky started the company out of Sherman Oaks, California in 1980 and also made Chessmaster in 1986. They started with HDOS, a health app for the Osborne 1. They worked on Small C and Grogramma, releasing a conversation simulation tool from Joseph Weizenbaum in 1981. They wrote Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing in 1987 for IBM PCs. It took "Three guys, three computers, three beds, in four months”. It was an instant success. They went public in 1988 and were acquired by Pearson in 1994 for around half a billion dollars, becoming Mindscape in 1994. By 1998 she'd taught over 6,000,000 kids to type. Today, Encore Software produces the software and Software MacKiev distributes a version for the Mac. The software integrates with iTunes, supports competitive typing games, and still tracks words-per-minute. But who was Mavis? What inspired her to teach generations of children to type? Why hasn't she aged? Mavis was named after Mavis Staples but she was a beacon to anyone looking to learn to type, thus Mavis Beacon. Mavis was initially portrayed by Haitian-born Renée L'Espérance, who was discovered working behind the perfume counter at Saks Fifth Avenue Beverly Hills by talk-show host Les Crane in 1985. He then brought her in to be the model. Featuring an African-American woman regrettably caused some marketing problems but didn't impact the success of the release. So until the next episode, think about this: Mavis Beacon, real or not, taught me and probably another 10 million kids to type. She opened the door for us to do more with computers. I could never write code or books or even these episodes at a rate if it hadn't been for her. So I owe her my sincerest of gratitude. And Norm Worthington, for having the idea in the first place. And I owe you my gratitude, for tuning into another episode of the History of Computing Podcast. We're lucky to have you. Have a great day!

The boys reminisce on Mavis Beacon and take a trip to the jerk store as they get in another brainstorming session before their next pilot. Please rate, review, subscribe and tell your friends! Twitter: @anyideaspodcast Facebook: Any Ideas? Email: theanyideaspod@gmail.com Theme: "Be Like You" by Soul Low from the album Nosebleeds.

We live that nine-year old lifestyle and discuss the computer games we played when we were younger and settle the debate about whether or not Mavis Beacon was an actual game. All the nostalgia puts us in the perfect mood to discuss the latest Seth Rogen produced comedy “Good Boys” so strap in and enjoy the ride!

  GameEnthus Podcast ep385: Lights Off or Cruise Control   This week Asif (@Technosucks) from @Shacknews joins Mike (@AssaultSuit), Tiny (@Tiny415) and Aaron (@Ind1fference) to talk about: Shacknews, QuakeCon, EVO, Hobbs and Shaw, Tokyo Game Show, 64DD, F-zero X, Apple Pippen, Marathon, Descent, Forsaken 64, Wolfenstein, Comic Con, Tesla, Smash Bros. Ultimate, Banjo-Kazooie, Regal Unlimited, Tyrese, John Wick Chapter 3, The Boys, The Tick, Bumblebee, edutainment, Mavis Beacon, Carmen San Diego, Leisure Suit Larry, ESA leak, SAAM Arcade, Pop Up GenCon, Rockstar, Point Salad, Mental Blocks, Tracking Ida, Ida B. Wells, Shovel Knight Showdown, Super Mario Maker 2, Descent, Mario Kart 64, Resident Evil 6, Gravity Ghost, Exception, Bangai-O, Turok 2, Bouncy Bullets, Woodle Tree 2 Deluxe, Hamsterdam, Aritana and Twin Masks, Fobia, Picross 3D WiiU, GameStop, Shovel Knight Dungeon Duels, Harry Potter: Prisoner of Azkaban, Wolfenstein: Youngblood, Star Wars: Battlefront 2, Fire Emblem Houses, Shacknews Mercury, 9to5 Elon Podcast, Keystone Comic Con and more.                If you like the show please leave us an itunes, Google, Youtube or Stitcher review, a tweet, an email or a voicemail (202-573-7686).     Show Length: 182 minutes  Direct Download(right click to download) Live Stream       Show Links Follow Asif @technosucks  | @Shacknews Go to Shacknews Wobble Garden(Table Top Twister mode) Team GameEnthus on Extra Life   Show Music                                                      The Beatnuts - Off the Books instrumental Ludacris - Southern Hospitality instrumental De La Soul - Oooh instrumental Artifacts - Wrong Side of the Tracks instrumental Souls of Mischief - 93 til Infinity instrumental De La Soul - Set the Mood instrumental De La Soul - Foolin' instrumental Little Brother - All for You instrumental   Breaks Asif's anecdotes - 1m 5s Mike's anecdotes - 1h 4m Aaron and Tiny's anecdotes - 1h 12m Feedback and Stuff - 1h 31min Asif's games - 1h 59min Aaron's games - 2h 13min Tiny's games - 2h 33min Outro -2h 50min New videos GameEnthus.com   Youtube.com/user/GameEnthus      Community Info   Major Linux and Crew's Notcho Podcast Kiaun's Show The Analog Circle Podcast Gary and Dan's Show TheGamesMenRPG Open Forum Radio SingleSimulcast           

Mick Jenkins - Alchemy off of the EP Waves Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpT4iD3NRA0 Take off them water wings, I'm losing water weight, I been on creatine Curing my countenance, creating this gold from the lead in my pencil I think I'm a alchemist Other fire Mick Jenkins Songs: Drowning - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsIiwHHiT3o Understood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dV4QC9qzBs P's & Q's - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GigIohlYqEI Samsa - cuttlefish Song: https://soundcloud.com/offthejump/samsa-cuttlefish I was a manatee You- you were a cuttlefish, I moved in cavalcades, lumbering You could choreograph a ballad in the muscle tissue of a subtle twitch Masquerade as something other, make your outer colors switch I was sculpted out of slate, you grew out a floral wreath I had dorsal flippers, you had tentacles and plural feet And twisted past the crevices and left me by the coral reef Bereft of thought, left abroad Always acted like you spoke the breath of God Concrete cephalopod Of course you couldn’t let me in Coagulate your casing when I touched you with my ventral fin Polaroids with exes, you had emerald skin, several tints Watched your soma shimmer when you texted him I’ve seen all your colors fade, it’s me that you’ve lost interest in Beige or blue at home but you could toggle through a range of hues Flash an orange smile to men that you were just a stranger to Never was a creature that you couldn’t change into Nothing complicated for you mimic octopus, what can’t you do Stage yourself an angelfish, change to an electric eel Arrange yourself in halo rings, conduct a charge of sex appeal zefrank1 - cuttlefish video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDwOi7HpHtQ More Samsa: technocrat - https://soundcloud.com/iamsamsa/technocrat tinder samurai - https://soundcloud.com/iamsamsa/tinder-samurai haunt me - https://soundcloud.com/iamsamsa/haunt-me Aesop rock - kirby song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T_KKiQiolk Hobgoblin, shots of hot Strongid Vaccine queen deem church socks hostage 9 weeks awesome, hides in a slipper Look in her eye like she might be a wizard Cold met a cat lady in a parking lot She got the heroes of tomorrow in a cardboard box And probably hoarding 40 more in the corners of Fort Knox Swap 20 on the spot and cop the warlock Aesops Fables: Rings - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npcGql9Ir6Y Cycles to Gehenna - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=478qwzcJtlM None Shall Pass - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEBGCOCxLgA Marlon Craft - Shithole Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYojNZsWhGI tell me what a shithole look like, where we move heaven in earth for a couple of men’s net worth while we let our poor live in dirt where lies are national, and fashionable trumps factual where we don’t know what just is, justice is laughable?/ Marlon masterpieces': Right Now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVAdos8s774&list=PLmTw1Cz4ZIHy7jS86fBlThI7hGi4p1cmR&index=9 Do The Work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa0Uj_d2DTM Gang Shit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqo-hyxjCYE Milo - an encylcopedia song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlp1jd-xUIw They gave us Mavis Beacon and slavish deacons Who predicate upon Who pontificate upon Who conversate upon But never hand-grenade a palm They find refuge muttering "The patriarchy is on auto-pilot" With prayer beads and solemnity We, Urban Outfitters, would like to make a t-shirt Out of your just-born soliloquy Milo mania: geometry and theology - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrV47QZUJVU paging mr. bill munn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOQFrCjSBKA folk-metaphysics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXzouMb3BFg

Welcome back to this dumb show! In this episode, Matt and Kevin rehash their individual experiences with LSD. Then, comedian Amy Estes drops by to chat with the boys about the failures of D.A.R.E., various Northern California crimes, and the joy of teaching English to the worst age-range of people possible. Plus, exposer of mimes Chewie McPooey stops by the show to rage about the evils of mimery and detail his curious history. This episode is brought to you by Masturbatia III: Realms of Butt Stuff!

You remember little Haley Joel. He saw 'em all, that one did. With those magic eyes. This episode is about his eyes, sort of. Actually, not really. Not really at all. This episode is about . . . extra senses. The movie-style one, the actual ones, the animal ones, all of 'em. Anything that isn't covered in the Conventional Five, that's what we're all on about this episode. And you gave us some great questions, so just like listen already it's right there the play button is right there I mean these notes honestly aren't that good and you've gotten this far which is exciting and means that my typing lessons were not a waste, that'll be good news for my grandma who paid for my typing lessons, just kidding that didn't happen, Mavis Beacon taught me how to type and how to be a respectable human man. Topics include: He Was So Little, Giving Birth to a 20-Year-Old, Get All the Prickles At Once When You Want Them, Garage Sale Sense, When Pizza Draws Near, and Just Writing Notes to People. *** Come chat with other fans in our FACEBOOK GROUP.  iTunes Facebook Twitter Instagram YOUTUBE Or, search for us on SPOTIFY if you're more interested in humor than whatever common sense means.

Now that Game of Thrones is finally over, it's time to get back to work and start studying your typing! We can't believe we actually got the one and only Mavis Beacon with us today. We talk to her about typewriters, her love of typing, and her family. Enjoy! Starring Julie Kottakis! (@TheWeirdJulie on Instagram) @PlayablePodcast

(NSFW!) Our SPOILER FILLED ENDGAME episode, you have been warned, PatMan, GOT, what do you want?, SAW, Avatar, Batwoman, Black Mirror, Hush, Rick and Morty, Doom Patrol, Moonfall, Ghost Rider, Helstrom, Mavis Beacon tutorial, lots more

(NSFW!) Our SPOILER FILLED ENDGAME episode, you have been warned, PatMan, GOT, what do you want?, SAW, Avatar, Batwoman, Black Mirror, Hush, Rick and Morty, Doom Patrol, Moonfall, Ghost Rider, Helstrom, Mavis Beacon tutorial, lots more

(NSFW!) Our SPOILER FILLED ENDGAME episode, you have been warned, PatMan, GOT, what do you want?, SAW, Avatar, Batwoman, Black Mirror, Hush, Rick and Morty, Doom Patrol, Moonfall, Ghost Rider, Helstrom, Mavis Beacon tutorial, lots more

(NSFW!) Our SPOILER FILLED ENDGAME episode, you have been warned, PatMan, GOT, what do you want?, SAW, Avatar, Batwoman, Black Mirror, Hush, Rick and Morty, Doom Patrol, Moonfall, Ghost Rider, Helstrom, Mavis Beacon tutorial, lots more

Great summers, clapping in unison, Mike has pink eye, work pits, unachievable goals, poison ivy, waking up in RV's, scrot itch, Mike is nervous, how do snails have babies, momentum, Turbo by Disney, wild wad of snails, Never Ending Story, quick sand, losing a horse, Little Mermaid, Mike is sexually attracted to the bat creature, Robert Smith from The Cure, Noah didn't finish, Jessica Rabbit was too sexual, Mike is a furry, the weirdest place you could ever be, Mike's top five fast food joint, Mike avoid's being noticed, Mike get's caught, it does not happen to Noah, Mike was very young, tranny bell fries, Mike needs to figure it out, Noah's first time, everything was porn, computer class, Noah's brother peed his pants, the algebra 2 teacher's mom, Math Blaster or Mavis Beacon, clenching his butt, Noah's just trying to get home, he was a real wierdo, how to pick up chicks, pink jello, and Mike wants two birthdays and two Christmases. With Noah, Stephen, and Mike. All music by Jake Simons Special thanks to Merlin Mann (http://www.merlinmann.com/)

What do you expect is gonna happen? These boys get back to some good old fashioned bantering. Ben procrastinates heavily on writing a speech, Jeff has a dank roommate, Jackson loves bad literature, Tyler has a swanky new announcement, and Jason gets a little tipsy.

An interview with Marcel Pociot, creator of BotMan and co-founder of Beyond Code. Marcel on Twitter API Doc generator BotMan BeyondCode Laravel Notification Channels Marcel's Laracon EU talk Night Night Baby | Träum Süss BotMan slack invite Editing sponsored by Larajobs Transcription sponsored by GoTranscript.com [music] Matt Stauffer: Welcome back to the Laravel podcast, today we're talking to Marcel Pociot, the founder of BotMan, the framework agnostic PHP chatbot package. Try saying that two times, 10 times fast. Stay tuned. [music] Welcome back to the Laravel podcast. This is season three where we're doing interviews. It's the people you know—getting to know aspects of them you never understood. Or it's also finding some people who you probably have used their tools or you've seen them but you don't actually, necessarily know who they are. Those names who you've been putting in GitHub require or to Composer require for ages but never actually known who the person is. The guy we have in front of us today, I'm actually curious to see what his entire history of working with Laravel is, but the current most present one that's going on right now is connecting Laravel to chatbots and slackbots, and all that kind of stuff, and this is called BotMan but there's a lot more going on here. First of all, we start with the point where I massacre somebody's name and then we move on to the next point where I ask that person to say their name correctly and then introduce themselves a little bit. Marcel Pociot, that's close, not perfect. He's still smiling, so I didn't massacre it too badly. Can you tell us-- and I'm probably ending up calling you just Marcel through this podcast. Marcel Pociot: Yes, that's fine. Matt Stauffer: That's because it is easier for me to say. Thank You. Can you tell us a little bit about-- just real quick, you don't have to tell us your whole life story, I'll ask those questions but—who are you? What are you doing? What are you about? What's BotMan? What is your new company? Just give us the basics of what should we know about you. Marcel Pociot: Okay. Yes, my name is Marcel Pociot. I think that's at least the German pronunciation. I co-founded a company in December last year. Matt Stauffer: Congratulations. Marcel Pociot: Thank you. Very fresh still. I think you're one of the first people that I actually tell this in person that's not from my family- Matt Stauffer: I got the insider track then. [laughter] Marcel Pociot: -and friends because the website isn't finished yet. Yes. I think I'm quite around in the Laravel community for a bit. Matt Stauffer: You've been working-- I've known you just generally in the Laravel community, but you're one of those people where I know that I've known you but I don't even know how we originally connected. Now, you mentioned that we spoke together at a conference so that it may have been it, but do you have any early claim to fame in the Laravel community? Were there any packages that you did earlier on it that were more popular or is it just that you've been around for a while that you're known? Do you know? Marcel Pociot: Well, I did a few. There is one, I think it's called teamwork, for some user/team association package. Matt Stauffer: I remember that. Marcel Pociot: But they're all a bit older. Matt Stauffer: Where did first start using Laravel? Marcel Pociot: Two and a half years ago, I think. I wasn't doing that much PHP back in the days, at least not with frameworks. At the companies I work with, they were using self-built frameworks which are usually crap. You do this once in your lifetime and never again. Well, I ended up at companies that did it all the time. At one point, we decided that we'd built a SaaS application and we were looking for framework to use. This is pretty much the story I tell everyone when they ask me how I got into Laravel. My boss was really into Zend because of the whole Zend ecosystem, with the Zend Studio and the Zend server. I looked into the Zend framework, I think it was two. I gave it a week, I gave it really my best shot. I even bought a book and to gave it a try. In the meantime, I looked around for other frameworks and discovered Laravel. What I did with Zend framework in a week, I did with Laravel in an hour in the evening on the couch. This was the main motivation to use Laravel then. Matt Stauffer: Got it. Okay. I do remember that one of the things that, originally I saw, is that you were doing the Laravel notifications thing. Did you help co-manage that? Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: Or manage or- Marcel Pociot: With Mohamed and Freek, yes. Matt Stauffer: Okay. Cool. Got it. Stepping back for a second, it's so funny because I try not to go too deep in my own ethnological and linguistic curiosities in the podcasts because nobody else isn't quite as interested as I am, so one of the things I actually ask myself before we were on a call is how was your English so good, we went to that little bit but I must admit that based on your name, it's sounds French to me, but I know that you live in Germany. Are you French origin living in Germany or I'm I just totally? Marcel Pociot: No. I hear that a lot. I think it's also because of my first name. People try to pronounce it French, like Marcel Pociot or something like that. Matt Stauffer: That's exactly what I expected you to say when you first told me, yes. Marcel Pociot: As far as I can tell, the name-- we can't trace it back that much. I think it's just two generations and it's from Eastern Europe, so that's pretty much all I can say. Matt Stauffer: Okay, but you're German, you live in-- where do you live in Germany? Marcel Pociot: Near Dusseldorf, which is near Cologne so, yes. Matt Stauffer: I took a little bit of German in high school and college and probably forgot the majority of it, but just enough that I can read a couple of German story books to my kids and to try to get a little bit of German heritage in for them. My sister was in a little bookstore, a local bookstore and found this-- what's it called? It's like sweet dreams or something like that - Träumt Suss? Marcel Pociot: Susse Träume? Matt Stauffer: Anyway, it's this cute little blue book so I read it to my son over and over and over again, and my pronunciation was really bad at day one, but over time I got good at it. Then at some point, my wife found the exact same book in English and so now, with both of my kids, I read them both of the books back and forth, but my daughter is understanding enough English right now that when I read the German version to her she's like, "Wait a minute, I don't understand this one". She gets mad at me [laughs] because she prefers the English version. Anyway, cool. I do remember there was another big one, the API documentation generator, tell me a little bit about that project. Marcel Pociot: Well, it's a tool that you can pull into your Laravel application and it will basically just reads the routes that you define, so you can call it and give it the prefix of the routes that you want documentation for and will scan the routes and create this Stripe like documentation. So that you have the documentation on the left and then code examples how you can interact with the API on the right, and it does it by just pausing the routes and then reading the documentation of the code. Matt Stauffer: Is it its own thing or is generating like one of the preexisting styles? You know what I mean? Because I've never got to use it, but we are always looking for API documentation generators. Marcel Pociot: It's a theme that's called slate, so it's using this. Matt Stauffer: Cool. Very cool. I'll put links in the show notes. But the main two that I see associated with your name right now are the API doc generator and then, of course, BotMan, which we'll talk about in a minute. Those are the things and then we've got your company. Let's real quick talk about what is BotMan, where did it come from and then also, what's your company and then we're going to dig into the back story. BotMan, what is BotMan? What does it do and where did it come from? Marcel Pociot: Okay, I'll start with where it came from. It was really just coincidence. Late 2016, Slack announced that they now have a new HTTP based API, it's called event API. Basically, before that when you wanted to react to Slack events, like new messages, you had to connect through web sockets and the new API was basically just webhooks. Whenever a new action appears-- yes. Well, I mean, if you have a large Slack team it will blast a lot of events to your server. When I heard that Slack announced this API, I just thought that it would be cool to have a PHP API that wraps around it and have an elegant API around it, it's sort of what Laravel is all about, then apply this to Slack. Then I did this, I open sourced it. It was called just SlackBot at the time. It lay around there for three or four months, I didn't do anything with it and then, I came up with the idea that it might be cool to connect multiple services to it, not just Slack, but also Telegram and Facebook Messenger. That's the main thing with BotMan. It's one of the only-- maybe it's the only —PHP library that actually allows you to connect to multiple messenger services. Matt Stauffer: Yes. If it not the only, it's the only one that matters. That's what I think. [laughs] Marcel Pociot: It allows you to connect to these services with one API and reuse your code. Matt Stauffer: One of the hardest things for people to think about, chatbots— everyone hears "Chatbot is the cool new thing", whatever and often, it's really difficult to understand in what context would I actually want to use this, what are some--? Some of the simplest ones we've seen are, "Oh well, when I hook into a CodeShip integration, something that already exists but, what are some of the-- either in your personal use of it or in seeing other people use it, what are some of the most compelling uses of chatbots? Whether it's in Slack or Telegram, or whatever else that you've seen to help people's imagination get started a little. Marcel Pociot: Yes, I think the problem is that people always associate chatbots with these super artificial intelligence systems that understand whatever the user wants. In my opinion, it's just a different interface for your application. It's a conversational interface for your application and what I've seen that was built with BotMan, a lot is like websites, for example, for insurance companies. On their website, they have this chat bubble, that you know maybe from Intercom, and what it does is it guides you through the website. When you click on a button, the chatbot opens and asks you a question related to the action that you triggered when you clicked on the button. That's one-use case and I think- Matt Stauffer: I want to stop you for a second. When I think of a chatbot, what I think about is something that allows someone to use a preexisting chat system, like Facebook Messenger or something else, to interact with their backend API. What you're describing sounds like an entirely manual process where you just used webhooks to hook in your app, right? Am I missing what you're talking about? Marcel Pociot: No. That's also possible. With BotMan, it is the web drivers, so you can just connect it to your own API and then you send the message from your user to your own API and reply back. Matt Stauffer: Okay. Got it. Marcel Pociot: But in the end, that's what happens with Telegram or Facebook too. Yes. Matt Stauffer: So really, anything that has to do with sending and receiving messages to your user in a chat-like format. Marcel Pociot: Yes, right. Matt Stauffer: Regardless of which chat format they're usbing. Okay. I think the on page one is just so clear of an example. Everyone has used a website with Intercom on it or one of Intercom's competitors at some point. I get that one. I think that's super compelling. I'm happy to know that if I need to build that, still reach for BotMan, that's cool. I wouldn't have known that until you said that. Have you seen people use-- I think the hard thing for me is that when I think about Telegram or when I think about Facebook Messenger, I very infrequently think about interacting with someone who has enough money to have an API. I think of my friends. I'm sending a message to my friend, my friend messages me back. Have you seen or heard of really compelling use cases where people are using traditional chats systems, outside of Slack? We'll talk about Slack in a second, but has anybody done anything interesting that you know of with Telegram or Messenger or are those little more aspirational at this point? Marcel Pociot: Messenger is used a lot for more marketing kind of services. For example, TechCrunch has this, well, it's a chatbot where you can-- when you sign up you can register for different topics from their RSS feeds. Matt Stauffer: Intere-- wow. Marcel Pociot: Then you get- Matt Stauffer: They are using it to publish information out and people are subscribing. Marcel Pociot: Yes, every evening-- so you can select topics and then the time. Every evening, I get the top 10 stories from TechCrunch into the Messenger. Matt Stauffer: You just blew my mind. My son just started a podcast www.stauffersonscience.com, and I have a whole bunch of people who I grew up with, who are completely un-computer savvy and they're all saying, "How do I subscribe to a podcast?", I'm like, "Oh Gosh, how am I going to handle this?". I could build a little light Laravel or Lumen app that subscribes to the RSS feed of the podcast and allows people to enter their-- authenticate their Messenger information and pushes every new episode to their Messenger inbox. Marcel Pociot: Yes, right. Matt Stauffer: Holy crap, you just blew my mind. That's amazing. That is so cool, that's so clever. That opens up so many things for people to subscribe because everybody, all your non-tech savvy friends, your mom, your grandma, all of them, they all have Facebook which means they all have Messenger. Marcel Pociot: Yes. I think even more like the younger generation because they don't have MacBooks or laptops, they just have smartphone and use Messenger to communicate. Matt Stauffer: Do you know-- I'm sorry I'm just going into the weeds here, but I am so fascinated. If somebody doesn't use Messenger and they send something to a Messenger authenticated thing, does it show up on the web interface in their little messages thing in Facebook website? Marcel Pociot: You mean if they don't use the Messenger application? Matt Stauffer: Like if somebody doesn't have an iPhone but they go to facebook.com on their browser every day, can they do Messenger interactions using the little- Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: Okay, so it's the same thing as Facebook. Man, I need to pause for a moment, this is so cool. Okay, broadcasting makes a ton of sense. Broadcasting information, this—in some ways, you have some of the value but a lot more configurability of like an RSS feed through a multiple-medium subscription. That makes a ton of sense and I get that now. Marcel Pociot: Plus, I think. maybe this will change over time, but right now the click rates are much higher because it's not that overused as e-mail newsletters. For example, with the TechCrunch- Matt Stauffer: They feel more personal too? Marcel Pociot: Yes. It feels-- even though you know that you're not actually talking to someone at the company, it feels like you're interacting with the company, well, with its brand. The whole market taking thing is really popular on Facebook, also for artists, they have chatbots that you can ask, "where's the next concert?", and the user feels like they are talking to, I don't know, Beyoncé, whatever. Matt Stauffer: Interesting. I was just going to ask about questions. That one right there would feel like a little bit of natural language processing. If you can do some of that then you can have like ask questions of our whatever bot, or whatever, and that makes sense too. You imagine that you are working for some big company, like an insurance company maybe, and they say, "You want to ask us a question? Here, hook up to our messenger bot and you can ask--" blah, blah, blah. The messenger bot parses out using some basic natural language processing. So, the messenger bot is basically BotMan hooked in your API. The API, your Laravel app takes the questions tries to process them, tries to look up an answer and then sends the message back to that person. So that BotMan would be the interface layer in between. Marcel Pociot: Yes, right. Matt Stauffer: Okay, that makes sense. Slack makes the most sense for our context. I think we're all sitting and using cycle work every day, and it seems like Slack is adding more and more things you can do every time. Buttons at the bottom and stuff like that. What is the most interesting thing that you have built or seen built with Slack integrations on BotMan? Marcel Pociot: It's also interesting because Slack got-- I think they moved away from the term chatbots a while ago, and I think they just called it application. They even integrated like forms that open up, like select boxes, drop downs. I haven't seen that many slackbots using BotMan. There's one, I forgot the name who built it, but he built a slack game, it's like a dice rolling game, it's called Liar's dice. Matt Stauffer: I, obviously, could talk about BotMan the whole time. But this isn't actually about BotMan, this is about you. BotMan is amazing, there's all sorts of interesting stuff. You also have given-- do you know if your Laravel EU talk is online? I didn't actually watch those. Marcel Pociot: Yes, it's online. Matt Stauffer: Okay, great. I'll put a link up to your BotMan talk which is called From zero to multi-platform Chatbot with BotMan. I'll put the link up to that one as well. Let's move on to you. The first place I always start with everybody is, when did you first get interested in computers? Or when did you first get access to a computer? What did your original kind of exposure to computers? Marcel Pociot: I think the first memory that I have from a computer was, I was sitting, I might be like 6 or 7, sitting in the living room with my father, and I don't remember what kind of computer it was. But we had a book with games, so if you wanted to play a game that was the source code of the game in the book. Matt Stauffer: Was it BASIC? Marcel Pociot: Yes, it was. You had to type it in and then you got the game. What I remember, maybe that's also the reason why I remembered it is, my father was sitting there and typing everything in, and I just came at the power adapter and the whole thing crashed. [laughter] He was frustrated. Matt Stauffer: Yes, I believe it. I assume that was like one of those black and green old-- those boxes. Very cool. Marcel Pociot: This is the first memory of sitting in front of a computer. Matt Stauffer: I try not to call at people's ages too much, but I think that you're around my age, around 33, is that right? Marcel Pociot: Yes. 32 and in April 33. Matt Stauffer: We're almost exactly the same age. In our generation it was not all that common, at least in the US, I don't know about Germany, for people to have a home computer when we were that young. Since your father was the one doing this. Was your father-- was he a geek or is he a programmer? Marcel Pociot: Not at all, no. He was always interested in it, but well not so much that he really wanted to write more code than there was in the book. [laughs] Matt Stauffer: At what point did your interaction with the computer go from pulling out the plug from your dad typing in BASIC program to you creating things on your own? Marcel Pociot: I think it was-- in school we had, at the programming class, we wrote Turbo Pascal. Matt Stauffer: Wait, what age of school are you talking about? Marcel Pociot: I think this is seventh grade, so I must have been like 12, 13. Matt Stauffer: You had programming class when you were 13 years old? Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: That's fascinating. When I was in seventh grade, we had typing class and I- Marcel Pociot: With typewriters or--? Matt Stauffer: They were on Macs, but they were old Macs and we'd all sit around and I would finish the Mavis Beacon thing in five minutes and then I'd go try to learn Applescript and write programs that would infect all the other computers in the network and shut them all down at the same time without the teacher noticing, but there's no formal programming education even in high school. The best we had was an engineering class where the teacher would let us go hack around and stuff, but certainly, nothing formal. So, you learned Turbo Pascal in seventh grade? Marcel Pociot: Yes, pretty much and then- Matt Stauffer: How did that go? Marcel Pociot: Well, I think we moved quite fast from there to Delphi where also-- in the class, there were a handful of people that were always very fast with all the tasks and, just as you said, had a lot of time. We developed like a Trojan, a Trojan Horse [laughter] to open the CD trays from the other computers and stuff like that. Matt Stauffer: Exactly. That's exactly what I was trying to do. That's awesome. Okay, early on you were deep in the computers, you were writing code, you were hacking at it. When did you first get into the web? Marcel Pociot: I don't really remember what age I was, but it was like the Geocities sites. All this crappy-- Matt Stauffer: Yes, man. I still remember, mine was MA slash 1984. My first two letters in my name and then the birth year. [laughter] What was your first Geocities site, you remember? Marcel Pociot: No, I just remember that I had this cool hacker name. Matt Stauffer: What? Like 1337 speak?? Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: One, three, three, seven, four, four, whatever. Marcel Pociot: It was Delta2K, I don't know. Matt Stauffer: Nice. Marcel Pociot: It sounded cool. Matt Stauffer: Yes, of course, with 2k especially. Okay, it's funny because it seems like I'm either picking people to interview who are old head PHP dorks or there's something consistent about folks who are helping lead in our community that a lot of us are from similar generation. I'm curious to see where that goes, but-- you were doing that, you were playing around with it at the side, what did you study? Did you study that in university or--? Marcel Pociot: No. Here in Germany after you finish school, you can either go to a university or you can do training. You go to a company and then you have three years at the company and besides working at the company, you also go to school. Matt Stauffer: Is it a school provided by the government or provided by the company? Marcel Pociot: No, it's just a public school for learning the- Matt Stauffer: For that specific career? Marcel Pociot: -specific profession. Yes. Matt Stauffer: Got it, okay. Marcel Pociot: I did that to become a software engineer and I ended up in a company in Bochum, here in Germany, and- Matt Stauffer: I don't even know how to spell that. I'll put that down on the show notes [laughs]. Okay, cool. Marcel Pociot: Yes, that's what I did. I wasn't that much into liking school that much back in the days. So pretty early on, I decided to skip the school part and rather work five days a week, so that I can hack on some code. That's what I did and then just did the tasks on my own and learned from them on my own. Matt Stauffer: Got it. You have a pretty straight line from being a little kid watching your dad enter QBASIC programs in. Through learning in school and doing your own Geocities stuff, to being a software engineer and going straight in the industry. Have you at any point felt like, "Oh my gosh, this is not what I want to do"? Or is it just been pretty clear since early on- Marcel Pociot: Yes, it's been really clear since early on. Matt Stauffer: - "I'm a programmer, this is my thing"? Marcel Pociot: That's always what I wanted to do. It's always a bit funny when I talk to people that don't really know what they want to do with their lives and what direction they want to go because it was always really clear for me that I want to go to that direction. Matt Stauffer: Interesting. If you today-- and I know that you just started your own company in December, so hopefully this is really fresh in your head. If you today were to be able to pick exactly what you were doing day to day, if your company was successful in exactly all the ways you want it to be, what would you be doing with your time? Marcel Pociot: Right now, I would say I would still love to write code. I heard that you talked about this also with a few other people, what to do when you're 40 or 50 years old. Well, right now, I would say that I hope that I still want to write code at that time Matt Stauffer: If you found yourself in a situation where your company just-- and we will talk about you company in a second, but you just took off and it's going really well. You decide to hire five people and all the sudden, you're spending all your time doing administrative work. At that point, you think you might say, "I gotta fix this, I got to get back into the code"? Is that your sense of it right now? Marcel Pociot: Right now, it is, yes, but I'm just so refreshed and I'm really just coming from a lead developer role. Matt Stauffer: Yes. Okay. All right. Tell me about your company. You went right into that internship, what's your work history look like? You don't have to tell me every company, but what kind of stuff you've been doing. Have you been working primarily for software firms or have you've been working for non-software companies as a software programmer? Marcel Pociot: No. I just worked for agencies, like web agencies. Matt Stauffer: Got it. Marcel Pociot: The first one was very small, four people when I started there which was very cool because I got to do everything. I had to talk to customers and the clients. We had-- it was very small so we had to do things like setting up e-mail accounts for them. They called if they couldn't set up the email account on their mobile phone. Then they would come in with their phone and stuff like that. Yes, the second company was also a bigger agency but still an agency, where I did-- At the first one, I did PHP and then I got a lot into Appcelerator Titanium. Matt Stauffer: That's why I thought you'd done Titanium. Let's talk about Titanium for a second. Titanium, I feel like was one of the first used JavaScript to write multi-platform apps. How is it different and similar from something like Ionic? Marcel Pociot: The main difference is that while Ionic is just html that gets executed on the phone in the browser, or in the web view, Titanium used the JavaScript code that you wrote and they had proxies for the native languages for java or Objective C. Then the JavaScript code would call the native proxy objects that would then execute native code. When you wanted [crosstalk]- Matt Stauffer: It is more of like a predecessor of React Native. Marcel Pociot: Yes, right. It's like- Matt Stauffer: Okay. Got it. Is it still around? Marcel Pociot: It is. The company got acquired and they still develop it but the time Facebook announced React Native, the community just ran away and went to Facebook, yes. Matt Stauffer: Got it. Okay. I'm sorry, I interrupted. You were doing that at that company and then--? Continue. Marcel Pociot: Yes. Titanium was also my main motivation to work on open source in the first place. I haven't done that before and I started developing Titanium modules. Just small user interfaces- Matt Stauffer: Like packages. Marcel Pociot: Yes. Right. User interface libraries to share and I put them open source and I think I did Titanium for, maybe, one and a half years. Mostly Titanium and then also some Java and Objective C to work on some native modules. During that time, I got bit away from PHP because also, at the time, there was no Composer. The whole ecosystem wasn't as stable as it is right now. Matt Stauffer: Yes. What brought you back? Marcel Pociot: Well, I think it was just a client project. [laughs] Matt Stauffer: Okay. Did they say PHP or it was a web and you had to pick and you just pick PHP because you knew it? Marcel Pociot: Yes, because I knew it and also because of React Native. When React Native was announced, Titanium just pretty much died. Matt Stauffer: Yes. But that was pretty recently, right? Marcel Pociot: Well-- Matt Stauffer: Like a year [crosstalk] Marcel Pociot: No. Native is more around more than a year, I think. Matt Stauffer: Is that real? I believe you, I don't actually know. Okay. Yes, let's say, it may be as long time as 2015 but-- because a lot of times when I hear people talk about "I stepped away from PHP--", blah, blah, blah, "and I finally came back", and they are in the Laravel community. A lot of them came back right around the time when Laravel 4 came out. Maybe I just got the timeline on that wrong in my head. When did Laravel 4 come out? Marcel Pociot: When I started working with their Laravel, 5 came out. I think I worked with 4 for about a month. Matt Stauffer: That is what I was expecting then. Okay. Marcel Pociot: Yes. We started this SaaS product at our company and we chose to use Laravel 5 because-- I think the main reason was the form requests, which just blew my mind. I thought they were super cool to validate stuff and then we decided to pick up, there Laravel 5 during the development with the beta, there was no good decision. Matt Stauffer: I didn't say and it was also bad decision. Marcel Pociot: We had to fix several things every day and at some point we just pinned the dependency to one specific commit, so we knew, “okay, this is working” Matt Stauffer: And you built against that commit until you released it until and then deal with all the fixes at once. Marcel Pociot: And then it stays that way for a long time Matt Stauffer: It's funny. This timeline does line up here is what I have seen, as four came out in 2013, five came out in 2015 and React Native was announced probably at some point in 2015. So you were deep in titanium, you were off in that world and interestingly you were doing a lot of other mobile stuff. You talked about getting into Java, getting into objective C a little bit it, so it was both Titanium, which is JavaScript but then also the adapter worlds, which means you got to know a little bit of Java from Android, a little objective C for Apple and then you all of a sudden come and jump back into PHP and it was Laravel 5, things were modern and Composer all that kind of stuff, were you still working for that same consultancy at that point? Marcel Pociot: Yes, must have been sort of at the same time that I switched jobs, yes. And I didn't do that-- I always did PHP in the afternoon on the couch Matt Stauffer: Got it. It was still always like your fun time favorite language because I know a lot of people would say they left, they're like "oh well, I got tired of PHP I left for rails, I got tired of PHP and I left for .NET or whatever, so you still had a soft spot in your heart for PHP the whole time. Marcel Pociot: Yes right, but not with the framework at the time. Matt Stauffer: You ever rolled your own? You said your company rolled their own, Marcel Pociot: Yes, of course. Matt Stauffer: Does it have a name? Marcel Pociot: No, it didn't really have a name, no. Matt Stauffer: Never got that far? Marcel Pociot: No. Matt Stauffer: Okay. You got a pretty classic story here, obviously everyone's different but a lot of us left at some point a lot of us came back at some point but it's interesting for the amount of impact you have made with BotMan you came up to Laravel pretty recently and BotMan isn't really a Laravel framework either. I feel like it was tied to Laravel at some point, is it basically just a PHP framework that does it even have a Laravel convenience layer on top of it right now? Marcel Pociot: Yes it does. It is framework agnostic but there's a piece that's called BotMan Studio which is basically a blank Laravel 5.5 installation with some additional BotMan service provider and additional commands, a Tinker page to play around with it but it's not tied to Laravel. Matt Stauffer: Got it. Okay we've caught up, you switched consultancies, you got in Laravel 5, you built BotMan, you talked about how you built BotMan so let's talk about your company. We chatted on and off about it but let's pretend that we haven't chatted at all. In December you formed your own company, you went out on your own. Tell me about it, what's your motivation, what's your goal, what's your desire; what made you want to get out of working for other consultancies and start your own thing and what is your own thing? Marcel Pociot: Okay. I'm not doing this alone, I'm doing this with a former colleague, he has been a freelancer for a year now already and already a year ago when he left the company, we were already thinking about doing something on our own and I think the main motivation was- when we started this SaaS application at our company, we thought about turning it into its own company, which they eventually did. I ended up sitting in a new office with my now business partner and the CEO from this new company and we basically sat together for 2 years, just the two of us working on the product and we just knew that the CEO back at the time was a sales person and- how can I put it, a sales person as the CEO of a software product is difficult. This was like the main motivation because we had a different idea of the product, the way we wanted to get with it and it didn't turn out into that direction so we thought that, well if we do something on our own, we can give it our best shot. Matt Stauffer: Okay. Is it a similar product to what you originally planned but since it didn't go the way you originally planned you're going to go build, are you doing product work then? Marcel Pociot: Right now the company is called Beyond Code and we are, it's sort of a split. We have, on the one hand, we do projects, project work mostly we try to do it for Chatbots obviously. Matt Stauffer: Your consultancy that builds Chatbots for people as a part of what you're doing. Marcel Pociot: Yes, right. On the other hand, we have BotMan as the library and we want to focus around building a whole product ecosystem around it so that it becomes easier for people to pick it up and use it like analytics, bot building systems. Matt Stauffer: So Beyond Code GMBH, what does that stand for by the way? I've never known that. GMBH. I assume it means limited liability corporation but the Germany version. Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: Let's test my German. Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung. Marcel Pociot: Yes, that's quite good. Matt Stauffer: All right. I did okay. All right. Beyond Code is a consultancy that builds primarily applications that have Chatbots on them and also uses the finances that come from that to further build the ecosystem around BotMan which is a PHP framework agnostic library to make it easy to build the type of applications that Beyond Code is building for people. Right? Marcel Pociot: Right. Exactly. Matt Stauffer: It makes sense. It's like that, not quite, like the Discourse model where like hey, there's a free or then Wordpress model. There's a free piece of software, there's also the way to pay us to do it, the money that you pay us to do it makes the free piece software better. Everything fits and everything else. Okay. That totally makes sense. All right, that's going forward. A success for the next couple years of your life would mean that the work that you're doing or consultancy work, the work you're doing for clients basically allows you to make BotMan better, is that the general? Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: You mentioned analytics, you mention understanding what's going on. Are there any other big next goals or features or things that you want that you feel like you can share with us that aren't the secret sauce? Marcel Pociot: No. Not that I can share them. No. Matt Stauffer: Okay, cool. But you've got big plans, it's not just sitting where it is, it is something you want to grow. Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: Okay, that's cool. I think that the ability to compellingly get someone excited about the possibilities with a Chatbot obviously is going to be a big part of your doing. I'm glad we had the opportunity for that. Like I said, I'm literally going to get off this call and go see how fast I can hack together something to send that one woman who went church with me growing up. Facebook Messenger notifications when my son's podcast goes out. I'm super geeked about that. Okay, let's see. What else, what do you do in your free time? One of the things is that you have such a straight line through programming that I think that I want to know more about what is not programming you. What motivates you? I know you've got a family, I know you've got one kid? Marcel Pociot: Yes, one kid. Matt Stauffer: One kid. How old is your kid? Marcel Pociot: Four. Matt Stauffer: Four. Okay. Obviously spending time with your family is significant but whether with your family or on your own, what do you do outside of coding? What motivates you? What excites you? What do you do when you're away from the computer? Marcel Pociot: I think I have to re-calibrate myself a bit because when I was working at the consultancy, what I was doing in the afternoon was BotMan and now I'm doing this during the day job. Matt Stauffer: Actually I got to stop you for a second. You keep mentioning the afternoon as your free time, what does your schedule look like? Marcel Pociot: It's mostly nine to five. Matt Stauffer: When you say in the afternoon, do you mean after five? Marcel Pociot: Yes, right. Sorry, in the evening. Matt Stauffer: In the evening. Got it. Okay. What you mean is basically your free time, hacking time in your old job you're doing consultancy during the day and then BotMan stuff at night but now the BotMan is your day job. How do you reorient? Marcel Pociot: Yes, I still have to figure that out myself. I'm not that much of like a sports person or anything. I think really my main motivation was to program still. Matt Stauffer: You just love coding. Marcel Pociot: Yes. Well and other than that it's mostly, beside my family of course, playing some video games but- yes. Matt Stauffer: Yes. I'm not a gamer but I gotta ask what kind of games are, I don't even know what questions gamers ask, is it a PC or console that the question they would ask what game you are into? Marcel Pociot: No, it is console but also it's funny and also a bit sad that I just realized that I'm getting old because I'm no longer good at these games. I no longer can play these games longer. I have always liked these big games that pull you in like big RPGs but now with a kid, I don't really have the time to do that. Matt Stauffer: You don't have much time. Marcel Pociot: I don't want to play for five consecutive hours and if I come back after a few days, I don't want an hour to find out where was I or what I'm supposed to do. Matt Stauffer: That's why I loved Nintendo, that's one of many reasons why I love Nintendo. Because for people with families, Nintendo is good. A, because there's games that you can play with your kids, and also user interfaces you can play with the kids, but B, there's games that are like you can dip in and out. Marcel Pociot: Yes, you can just pick them up and then play for half an hour and then your're done. Matt Stauffer: Even Zelda as an extremely immersive game. You can still pick it up for 20 minutes here or there. Marcel Pociot: That is also too big for me. Matt Stauffer: Zelda is. I mean I can understand it. I've played more video games when I played through-- I'm not done with Zelda, but I played more video games when I first got the Switch and Zelda than I have in years. And even so, it was 20 minutes here and there. Because of the Switch, I just put it down and it just pauses it, but I hear you. Super Mario Odyssey is pretty small. And of course, Mario Kart I play with my son nearly every day. Marcel Pociot: Yes, [laughs] me too, yes. Matt Stauffer: Nice. Marcel Pociot: So now we have this rule that we play every other day. [laughter]. Matt Stauffer: Yes, yes. Every night became a problem, so I was like, "You need to get off." The good thing is my son is super, super active. I was a lazy kid, I didn't want to do anything, I just wanted to sit around. My kid, if I let him, we would be outside running around every day, I don't don't have any problems. Marcel Pociot: Yes, my son too. Yes, when I came home from work, usually the first thing that he would tell me was, "Okay, you can leave your shoes on, we go out and play some soccer." [laughter] Matt Stauffer: I love it, that's very cool. Yes, I think my biggest bummer about the neighborhood we live in right now is that-- the best thing about it is the houses are really close and everybody gets to know each other very well, so he's got tons of friends. But the bummer is the yards are so small that there's nowhere for us to play without getting in the car and driving somewhere. Like, play soccer or baseball or something like that. But what we end up doing is just running around in the house like crazy people anyway. Marcel Pociot: [laughs]. Matt Stauffer: It's his favorite game right now. Marcel Pociot: We have people living underneath so we can't do this all the time. Matt Stauffer: My son's favorite game right now is turn on some music really loud, some really hype pop music or something like that, and then run around and chase each other and throw bouncy balls at each other or try to tickle each other or something like that while the music plays really loud. I'm like, "Okay." Marcel Pociot: [laughs]. Yes, haven't done that in a while. Matt Stauffer: What keeps you from getting stuck when you're coding? Or what tools do you use, or what book or what languages. How do you keep either on a single problem, or on a single framework, or single language? What broadens your perspectives? Whether it's in the programming world, like some other programming language, or whether it's something about your family or your life. What helps you keep your brain out of just the really narrow focus of, "I work in one language, one package, all day long." What gives you inspiration? Marcel Pociot: Recently, when we had in mind that we're going to start the company, I focused a lot on the organizational things and on how to get this even up and running. During that time I was not that much focused on code, or on frameworks, or anything else, because it also meant for me just to get out of the comfort zone and start a company, and not have the safety as an employee. What I'm trying to tell is that, during this time, I sort of stepped away from being too close to the coding world a bit, and now I'm just catching up again. But I think it's mostly just talking to other people and exchanging with my business partner, things like that. It's not that I use other languages and look into them specifically to see new things, so it's not that I really have the plan on how to broaden my view. I don't know, I think it just happens this way. And if I'm stuck at a specific problem, I just try to go out for a bit and [chuckle] step away from the code. Matt Stauffer: Yes. All right. I feel like I promised every time that I'm not going to say I could talk for hours and then I do it every time anyway. Oh well, I failed, I did it. Marcel Pociot: [laughs]. Matt Stauffer: We are nearing time, so I don't want to start anything new and big. Are there any other big parts of you, your life, your motivation or your work that you feel like we haven't got a chance to cover? Marcel Pociot: No, I think we covered the important parts, most of all, yes. Matt Stauffer: Okay, I like it. What's your favorite candy? Marcel Pociot: Candy? [laughs]. After the whole Christmas candy mess-- we set ourselves as a family goal to not eat any candy for a week. Matt Stauffer: I like that. Marcel Pociot: My son is doing great. Matt Stauffer: [laughs]. He's doing better than you, huh? Marcel Pociot: Yes, right. [laughter] Marcel Pociot: I cheated but he doesn't know. Matt Stauffer: All right. Well, hopefully, he doesn't listen to this. Marcel Pociot: Well, he doesn't understand English. So-- Matt Stauffer: There you go, that's the way to do it. Reveal your secrets in the other language. Marcel Pociot: [laughs]. Yes. Marcel Pociot: But other than that-- favorite candy-- I'm mostly into some sour candy. Matt Stauffer: Like what? Marcel Pociot: Skittles in sour, they're pretty good. Matt Stauffer: Really? Skittle Sour-- I had no idea. Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: All right, Skittle Sour, favorite candy. Marcel Pociot: How about you? Matt Stauffer: I ask this question to people all the time and I don't know if I know the answer. The first thing that came to my mind was Snickers. I think that I like candies with chocolate, and I think if it's chocolate plus some things that rounded it out, those are high in my list. I mean I really like Almond Joys, and Mounds as well. But I think Snickers is probably my top one. Marcel Pociot: We all like bread with Nutella, but is it really candy? Matt Stauffer: Yes, but I mean, it's basically candy. Marcel Pociot: Yes. [laughs]. Yes. Matt Stauffer: Yes. It's funny, my wife likes to put Nutella on sweet things. I'm like, "No, no, no, the Nutella is the sweet, I want it on bread or toast.", just plain piece of multi-grain bread, put some Nutella on top of it, good to go. Marcel Pociot: And peanut butter, and then you basically have Snickers. Matt Stauffer: Wait, do you put peanut butter and Nutella on the same thing? Marcel Pociot: Sure. That's literally Snickers, right? Matt Stauffer: Oh my god [whispers]. I had never thought of that. Alright last story and then I got to let you go. My dad worked for a German company when I was growing up, and he was the president of the US distributor of a German-based company. So he would fly over to Germany pretty frequently, and he would bring Levi's jeans and peanut butter to Germany, because it was hard for them to get, and he'd bring back German chocolate and Nutella, because it was hard for us to get. You can get Nutella in the grocery stores now, but back then you couldn't. And so, every time dad came home, we would get Nutella and we tried to keep these couple of jars of Nutella to last until the next time he went to Germany. Marcel Pociot: Okay. Next time I see you, can you get some Nutella? Matt Stauffer: Yes, I mean, we've got a lot of Nutella here, so you have to pick something up to trade with. Marcel Pociot: But not the German one. [laughs]. Matt Stauffer: Yes, it's true, it's true. All right, Marcel, this was a ton of fun talking to you. Thanks for taking some time. Thank you for BotMan, I'm seriously going to go distribute my son's podcasts using it. So you can expect me to bother you with requests for help sometime soon. Marcel Pociot: No problem. Thank you for inviting me. Matt Stauffer: How can people follow you? And, I guess, go start BotMan. What is following after you look like? Marcel Pociot: Well I think the easiest way to connect with me is on Twitter. Matt Stauffer: All right. I'll make sure your handle is linked to the show notes. Marcel Pociot: Okay. Or, if people want to talk about BotMan, I have the Slack team of BotMan where you can join, I think we're nearly 500 people in there. Matt Stauffer: All right, we'll link that in the show notes too. Got it. Marcel Pociot: Yes. Matt Stauffer: Cool. All right, well thanks for your time, was a pleasure talking to you. Until next time everyone. See you later. Marcel Pociot: Bye.

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