Podcast appearances and mentions of chris mcdougall

Today, I am delighted to reconnect with Mark Sisson, who last joined me for Episode 218. Mark founded the Primal Health Coach Institute and is well-known as the forefather of the Primal Paleo Lifestyle movement. He has authored several bestselling books and has a prime-ranked ancestral lifestyle blog. His upcoming new book, Born to Walk, will be a must-read for everyone in the new year. In our discussion today, we explore how the launch of the cushioned shoe in the 1970s led to a running boom. We discuss the difference between having the ability to run and running, looking at why running is counterproductive for fat loss, and how cushioned shoes can restrict movement, especially in the ankles, knees, and hips. We also dive into the benefits of walking and the role of strength training, HIIT, and VO2 Max.  Join us for this informative conversation where Mark Sisson offers invaluable insights for the coming year. IN THIS EPISODE YOU WILL LEARN: How the introduction of cushioned running shows in the 1970s allowed runners to increase their training miles without injury The consequences of the running boom that began in the 1970s Why good running form is important  The benefits of walking for overall fitness and health The science behind VO2 Max  Why a balanced diet is vital to support overall health and fitness.  How thick, cushioned running shoes restrict proprioception and weaken the small muscles in the feet How minimalist trail shoes and walking barefoot can improve foot strength Mark shares some practical tips to integrate more walking into everyday life. The benefits of high-intensity interval training (HIIT) Why a balanced approach to health and fitness is essential Connect with Cynthia Thurlow   Follow on Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Check out Cynthia's website Submit your questions to support@cynthiathurlow.com Connect with Mark Sisson   Pre-order a copy of Mark's new book, Born To Walk (Coming out on January 7th) Peluva Shoes Previous Episode Mentioned Episode 218: Achieving Sustainable Metabolic Flexibility with Mark Sisson Book Mentioned Born to Run by Chris McDougall

If you're enjoying this, will you subscribe + review?I'll always remember where I was when I was reading Born to Run for the first time. Only a few books have impacted me enough to do that. Chris McDougall talks running, Hal Koerner, Zach Miller, Scott Jurek, Caballo Blanco, Jenn Shelton and more.——Wylder by Borderlands is available now on mobile app stores. Click ⁠here⁠ to download for iOS or Android.⁠⁠borderlands.cc⁠⁠ / ⁠@runborderlands

This week, we host Chris McDougall, runner, reporter, and author of Born to Run, on the show to discuss his wide-ranging life experience. His concept of the hero is that they are responsible for others, that we humans are designed to be cooperative, that we are at our best when we are thoughtful and caring. In it all, it is important that we seek out fun. From learning from Mexico's Rarámuri ultrarunners, to training a mistreated donkey to join him in competing in the 29-mile Pack Burro race in the Rockies, Chris' life has been anything but average. Now living on Oahu, Hawaii, the 61 year-old continues to push himself to uncover stories, pick up new hobbies, and reflect on how his past informs his present day outlook on health, wellness, and keys to longevity.What kind of SuperAger are you? Check the SuperAge Quiz and find out! (visit: ageist.com/quiz)Thanks to our sponsors:InsideTracker – the dashboard to your Inner Health. Listeners get 20% off on all products at InsideTracker.com/AGEIST.SRW Labs – Science Research Wellness — improve your cellular health. Listeners receive 20% of all products with code AGEIST20 at SRW.co. DIVI – Take back control of your hair and scalp health, and do it with Divi's clean, science-backed ingredients. Listeners get 20% off your first Divi order at diviofficial.com/AGEIST or enter code "AGEIST" at checkout.Key Moments“I think what bothers me the most–and this applies in every aspect of our lives–is this sad human arrogance that we can outthink two million years of evolution. Natural selection has created this unbelievably complex self-healing device.”“I spent a lot of time on the Greek island of Crete looking at World War II resistance fighters. Crete was one place that had a sensational story about average citizens who rose up to resist the German occupation. Again, these are not trained soldiers, these are just citizens who overnight, literally from one week to the next, went from being citizens into being military operatives against the most formidable army on the planet. And so my question was well, how do you do that physically? How do you turn yourself into a super soldier? And one of the things I looked at was diet.”“You know one thing when you look at the human animal, there are two things that we are really good at. We are extraordinarily adaptive–we're very creative and ingenious. But secondly, we're extraordinarily cooperative. What is the internet all about? It's about trading stuff, trading images, trading thoughts, trading ideas. We are probably the most cooperative animal on the planet and we tend to forget that sometimes because, particularly in America and particularly in this era in America, we've come across this very sad notion. You know you gotta be tough. You know you gotta close the borders, you gotta be strong, you gotta crush this guy, you gotta win, win, win. That's not who human animals are. You know human animals throughout history have coexisted and have shared and cooperated. And if you look at most ancestral cultures, they were not about accumulation and acquisition and conquering. They were about coexistence, cooperation and learning from each other.“Connect with ChrisBorn to RunWebsiteContact

With a name like Born to Run 2 you might be expecting that this is part 2 of Chris McDougall's story from 2009; there's a little of that, but also so much more. This is the training manual to accompany Born to Run and also features returns of some of the athletes who ran Caballo Blanco's race organized with the Tarahumara in the Copper Canyons. The book is divided into 3 parts:Part I - Born to Run – Where the authors reminds us that we are born to run, explain why we might be struggling with injury and introduce us to “movement snacks”Part II - The Free Seven – Where the book talks about food, fitness, form, focus, footware, fun and family. Part III - The 90-day Program – Which has everything learned in the book assembled into an easy to use 90 day plan. You can even download it in Training Peaks and add it to your calendar.As with all of Christopher McDougall's books, there are inspiring stories of individuals taking on personal challenges and doing great things with their running.Christopher McDougall is one of America's most popular adventure-sport writers, with more than 2 million books in print. He began his career as a foreign correspondent for The Associated Press, covering wars in Rwanda, Angola, and Congo. His first book, Born to Run, remains the No. 1 running title of all time, spending four years on the New York Times bestseller list and earning selection as one of Amazon's 100 Books to Read in a Lifetime. McDougall's work revolutionized footwear and sports nutrition, sparking the “Barefoot Revolution” of minimalist shoes and popularizing chia seeds and pinole, two superfoods of Mexico's legendary Rarámuri ultrarunners. Chris has also previously appeared on Running Book Reviews podcast to talk about his last book, Running With Sherman, the story of adopting a rehabbing a severely neglected donkey.Eric Orton has spent a lifetime exploring human potential and the limitless possibilities of the body and mind. As a performance wizard and world-renowned running coach, Eric performs online coaching and consulting for both age group and elite runners. And he travels the World speaking and performing clinics on running. Eric was part of a handful of coaches who pioneered the online coaching industry and has operated his run coaching business for the last 24 years helping Olympians, professional, and age group athletes. His study of ancestral cultures, like Mexico's legendary Rarámuri ultrarunners, has made him one of the foremost authorities on running, evolutionary biomechanics, and human performance; and the go-to coach for athletes everywhere. Eric earned international notoriety as the coach of Christopher McDougall, a relationship that served as the foundation for McDougall's previous books, Born To Run and Running With Sherman.If you're interested in a copy of this fantastic book, consider getting it from your local independent book store.Support the showAny feedback or suggestions on this review or any of our other podcast episodes would be greatly welcomed. Leave us a review using your favorite podcast player or contact us on social media.Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/runningbookreviews/Twitter: https://twitter.com/reviews_runningInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/runningbookreviews/ Podcast webpage: https://runningbookreviews.buzzsprout.com If you have been enjoying the podcast and want more, you can find some extras on our By Me a Coffee site! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AlanandLiz

SuChin's other half Mike Bender makes a triumphant return, just in time for Father's Day. Forget the power tools and grilling accessories, he's got gifts for the sensitive, introspective dad. He also responds to SuChin's live show allegations about his ho days (does that make him…a ho-sband?) Plus, in anticipation of their road trip, Mike is hard at work figuring out how four people can live out of a van for a few weeks. But SuChin's bathroom routine may present his biggest challenge yet. Please note, Add To Cart contains mature themes and may not be appropriate for all listeners.  To see all products mentioned in this episode, head to @addtocartpod on Instagram. To purchase any of the products, see below.  Dads always want to be prepared, so the Jackery solar generator may give him some peace of mind  “Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen” explores the surprising secrets behind running and why your feet hurt when you run “Born to Run” author Chris McDougall endorses the Xero Shoes Mike endorse Flux Footwear,  shoes that massage the bottom for your feet The Bender-Pak family is prepping for van life with Atlas Vans This Japanese portable toilet  for natural disasters and emergencies might be the key to the van life bathroom problem Mike's new kid's book “The Most Serious Fart” features some flatulence friendship. Find all of his books here Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.  Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.  Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: lemonadamedia.com/sponsorsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this episode, we're joined by Christopher McDougall, the author of the best-selling book Born to Run. Christopher's new book with coach Eric Orton, "Born to Run 2 - The Ultimate Training Guide.", which is a practical guide to running for everyone from amateurs to seasoned runners, about how to eat, race and train effectively. Chris was one of our first guests when we started the podcast and we talked about his first book and how we are designed to run long distances. Now 14 years after the book was published, we ask Chris if he believes we are still born to run. Check out the Born to run Xero Shoe Check out the Born to Run Ultramarathon Extravaganza Learn more about Chris and his great books at his web site

In this episode of the BeRad Podcast, Cat Bradley and Chris McDougall, New York Times best-selling author of Born To Run, catch up in Kailua, Hawaii. As one of America's most popular adventure-sport writers, with more than 2 million books in print, Chris gives some hard-to-swallow advice on being present and relates it back to his many worldwide adventures as a journalist. Tune in to hear these two life enthusiasts nerd out on all things running, community, writing, and life in Hawaii. Check him out: On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrismcdougallauthor/ On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChrisMcDougallAuthor/ On his website: https://www.chrismcdougall.com/about/ Born To Run: https://www.chrismcdougall.com/buy-born-to-run-from-these-sellers/ Pre-Order Born To Run 2: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/717120/born-to-run-2-by-christopher-mcdougall-and-eric-orton/?ref=PRH9501E2E1E407&aid=26436&linkid=PRH9501E2E1E407 Running With Sherman: https://www.chrismcdougall.com/running-with-sherman/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/berad-podcast5/support

Eric Orton is a running coach. Find him under the handle 'Born to Run Coach' on Instagram! He and Chris McDougall were on the show a few months ago discussing their book 'Born to Run 2' , and he returns to talk training for altitude, endurance, and Leadville specifically. This episode is brought to you by the Consummate Athlete Leadville 100 Training Plan on Training Peaks     Download or find links in your favorite Podcast App (remember to rate and review!) https://directory.libsyn.com/shows/view/id/consummateathlete     Show Notes Born to Run 2 - Book by Eric Orton and Chris McDougall  Eric Orton - Born to Run Coach - on Instragram Leadville 100 24 month Training Plan Leadville 100 - 3 Month Training Plan  All Leadville Posts and Podcasts on Consummate Athlete    Links to Our Article Archive & Services: ConsummateAthlete.com   SUPPORT THE SHOW WHILE YOU SHOP:  https://amzn.to/3Aej4jl to shop amazon   Subscribe to our Newsletter ->  It's free and brings the latest podcast, post and clinic/event information to you each Monday   Book a Call to Discuss Your Training - https://calendly.com/smartathlete   Books By Molly Hurford  https://amzn.to/3bOztkN   Get The Consummate Athlete Book - LINK Follow The Consummate Athlete on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook Follow Molly Hurford on Twitter and on Instagram Follow Peter Glassford Follow @PeterGlassford on Instagram and Twitter   Past guests Include: Stacy Sims, Stephen Seiler, Simon Marshall, Frank Overton, Dean Golich, Joe Friel, Marco Altini Katerina Nash, Geoff Kabush, Ellen Noble, Phil Gaimon, David Roche, Matt Fitzgerald, Dr. Marc Bubbs, Christopher McDougall, Rebecca Rusch, Kate Courtney, David Epstein and many more       This episode is brought to you by the Consummate Athlete Leadville 100 Training Plan on Training Peaks  

 Episode 5:   Couch Potato to Ultramarathoner: My Slow Journey to Lasting Change  “You have a gallstone and need to get your gallbladder taken out.”  I stare at my doctor in disbelief. I have to get my gallbladder taken out at 28 years old? Just hours before, I was at my office in Dachau, Germany, doubled over with sharp, stabbing pain under my right rib cage.  But still… I can't wrap my head around it. I'm not ready to have my gallbladder out! God put it in there for a reason and I'd like it to stay right where it is.  I tell the doctor this and she replies, “Well, the other option is that you get in shape. Stop eating animal fat and start exercising.” Sounds like simple advice for a 28-year-old, but it was a tall order for me at the time. After all, I'd gained around 30 pounds since moving to Germany. I was enjoying a lot of beer, schnitzel, spaetzle, and delicious bread. I'd fallen in love with German food, but it was doing not-so-wonderful things to my size and health.  Just a couple of weeks prior, I had to quit a hike halfway through because my knees hurt so badly.  I'd chalked it up to aging, but now — with my doctor giving me the option between surgery or lifestyle change at 28! — I knew it was time to make a transition. A transition that would take me from being limited physically in my late 20's to becoming an ultra-marathoner at the age of 40.   THEMED INTRO:  (DON'T RECORD)[themed music plays]I'm Art Blanchford, and this is Life in Transition, a podcast about making the most of the changes we're given. As a married father of three teenagers, long-time global business executive, personal growth fanatic, and adventurer, I've been through hundreds of transitions in my life. Many have been difficult, but all have led to a depth and richness I could never have imagined. You'll get to hear about them on this podcast so that, together, we can create more love and joy in our lives — no matter what transitions we go through.  EPISODE:Part 1: Why this matters to listeners Hello and welcome back to Life in Transition. I'm Art Blanchford and today we're going to talk about a transition that took over 10 years for me to complete: going from couch potato to ultra marathoner. I want to share this experience with you because if you're like me, maybe you've wrestled with your eating and weight your whole life. Maybe you've started and stopped countless exercise routines and healthy eating plans — and feel like getting into better shape is an impossible obstacle in your life. I've been there. When my doctor in Germany told me I had to make some changes or I'd face surgery, it was a HUGE wakeup call. But if you told me that I would be running ultramarathons a decade later, I would've laughed in your face. “That's impossible!” I would've said. But as you're about to learn, small, incremental changes over a long period of time can make the impossible, POSSIBLE. My hope is that by hearing my story, you'll see the extraordinary potential you have — even if it's not obvious right now. [a beat… possibly with transitional music] Part 2: Backstory to the gallstone If you've been listening to Life in Transition since the beginning, then you know that I've always been a bit of an overachiever. I've routinely put work ahead of taking care of my body.  When I played football in high school, but in college, I was all about school and work. I only ran a little bit to get my energy up in the mornings, and didn't bother much with exercise outside of that. These habits continued into my young professional years, until one day my wife came home with an idea. [energetic music starts] “Nashville is hosting a Country Music marathon this year. Want to go?” she asked. It was 2000 — the first time Nashville had ever hosted a marathon like this. And since we both loved Nashville and it was for a good cause, I said, “Okay, I'll try it.”  I used the marathon as a way to raise funds for the Leukemia Society, got a coach, and started training. I'd never run a race in my life, so training was a very tough process. Everything hurt — especially my knees. It got so bad that I started packing bags of frozen peas in a cooler to use after my long runs in the park.  When marathon day came, it was more difficult than I had imagined. [race sounds] I ran and walked it in four hours and 45 minutes, and the 10 days after were excruciating. I could barely walk and everything hurt really badly.  [music ends] You'd think after all that work I would continue with my training. But soon after the Country Music marathon, my wife and I moved to Germany for my job. When I tried to run, everything hurt too much. So I quit. I tried hiking with my wife sometimes, but going down mountains made my knees hurt so badly that I quit that too for the most part. The only physical activity I did was mountain biking — but only occasionally. I spent most of my time working hard and traveling a lot.  Add that sedentary lifestyle to consuming a ton of delicious German food, and that's how I landed in the doctor's office with what appeared to be a gallstone.  Part 3: The Slow Road to Health Even though I walked out of that doctor's office determined to do everything I could to avoid gallbladder surgery. It was not an overnight transition. I still didn't exercise regularly — even though I made plans to do so many times. Instead, I focused on my diet first thanks to Tony Robbins. I attended his Unleash the Power Within conference and was inspired by his outlook on diet. He talked about eating mostly vegetables and plant-based fats, and consuming very little to no meat, dairy, or animal fat. So I started on that path. Two years later, work moved me back to the U.S. and I found myself under tremendous pressure. At 31 years old, I was a VP of a multi billion dollar global corporation. I felt like I had so much riding on my shoulders. I needed to do something to help manage my stress, and I needed it fast. [energetic music] Telling myself I didn't have time for anything big, I started with fifteen minutes every morning. I would get up a little early and walk around my neighborhood, following along with the Tony Robbins 15 minutes to Fulfillment. I'd say the things I'm grateful for, do breathing exercises that helped me feel more energized, and say affirmations.  It was only fifteen minutes, but it helped a LOT with managing my stress. I didn't know it at the time but committing to those 15 minutes every single morning was the start of an entirely new way of living.  It was the foundation for what would become a slow and steady physical transformation. [music rises and plays for a beat]. As that 15 minute morning walk became a daily habit , I found myself wanting more. I thought, “Well hey, I used to run. Maybe I'll try jogging for five minutes in the middle.” So jogging became part of my daily habit. I'd walk for five or ten minutes, jog for five minutes, and then walk for five or ten minutes. I did it almost every morning. Slowly, what started as 15 minutes stretched into what Tony Robbins calls a full Hour of Power.  I told a friend about what I was doing at work, and he recommended a book called Galloway's Book on Running by Jeff Galloway. It was all about how to run injury-free.  “That's what I need!” I thought. So I started following the Galloway regimen, where I'd run one mile, and then walk one minute. I kept my pace very slow as I built my endurance up. The idea is that you allow your body to train and transform slowly to avoid injury. Deep down, I wanted to run another marathon but I was nervous about it. My back still bothered me a lot, and I worried that another marathon meant hurting myself even more. So I didn't put a date on it. I just said, “I'm going to do another at some point.” For years, I continued using the Galloway method to build up endurance and my distance, getting up 5 or six days a week as part of my morning habit. Finally, in 2007 — a full seven years after my first marathon — I ran a half marathon in Detroit. Then in 2008, I ran it again.  I enjoyed these races so much that one day it hit me that running was no longer something I did to manage my weight or stress. It was something I truly enjoyed.  If I didn't get a morning run in, I'd come home from work, put my young kids in a double jogging stroller and take off for a run. I love being outside, being in nature, and moving my body. I added yoga and eating well into my routine with the encouragement of my sister-in-law.  The hardest part wasn't moving my body — it was eating well. I still battled my weight, because I loved bread, sweets, and eating big portions of both in the evenings. If there were any sweets around, I would eat it.  But I kept at it just like I did with the running. Slow and steady everyday. I aimed for small improvements everyday, not comparing my progress to anyone else. And then finally, in 2009, I got big news. After two years of trying, I'd won the New York City Marathon lottery. I was finally going to run another marathon. [transitional music]Part 4: NYC Marathon By this point, I was nervous and excited, but committed to training. But just days before the big day, I pulled my hamstring. My first thought was, “See, I knew I couldn't do it without getting injured. I'm out. It's too dangerous and I don't want to hurt myself.” I was living in Michigan at the time, and bought all my gear and got sports massages a Hanson's Running Stores.  . There were a lot of Olympic hopefuls on the Hanson's running team and one such runner was my masseuse right after the injury.  When she completed the massage, she said, , “I think you can still do the NYC marathon. . If you were sprinting, it would be a problem. But you can run a marathon and be just fine.” That was a pivotal moment for me. Her words gave me the confidence and inspiration I needed to show up to the New York City marathon — hurt hamstring and all. [music builds] On race day, I had all kinds of butterflies in my stomach. It was the day after Halloween and so people were making their way back home from parties the night before while the runners lined up at the starting gate. You could just feel the energy of the million spectators. e. My family and good friend, Jim, werw there, and my sister came up from Philly to watch. As soon as I heard the starting shot[1], I followed the Galloway way, running and walking, then running and walking some more. It was shoulder-to-shoulder throughout most of the race because there are just so many people who come to do the New York City marathon.  During my walking periods, I'd go to the side and try to get out of the way. But some people still get really upset that I was slowing down so much during those minutes. But I did it anyway every mile and trusted it was the right method for my body.  In every race I've ever done, there's always this short period of time where you know your limits are, and you go for it anyway. Everything feels so real in that moment. I felt that many times during the New York City marathon. It was really tough. But at mile 20, I rounded the corner and when I saw my wife, kids, and sister, I just started crying. It was so great to see them and steal a quick hug. Tears just kept coming into my eyes because I was pushing myself as hard as I could. When I finally crossed that finish line, I felt like a rock star. My time was 4 hours and 15 minutes. A whole 30 minute improvement from my first marathon nine years prior. [music beat] It felt amazing. And that night, my family and I had a blast walking around New York City. I wore my marathon shirt out to dinner and got a standing ovation in the restaurant. We saw tons of other marathoners with their medals on out and about and I'll never forget it.  Best of all, I hadn't injured myself. My body could run a marathon without getting hurt. [transitional music] Part 5: Improving Times & Shifting Paradigms After that New York City marathon, I decided to do one marathon every year and see if I could keep improving my time.  And sure enough, in Chicago of 2010, I ran it in just over four hours — cutting my time by nearly 15 minutes. Then in 2011, I ran a marathon in Montana. I felt great the entire race, and my end time was 3 hours, forty-four minutes and forty-five seconds. Not only is that still my best time, but I also ran into Jeff Galloway himself during that marathon. I got to thank him for his mile run, minute walk method that helped me heal my body and saved me from getting any serious injuries. After that marathon, my family and I moved to Shanghai, China for my job, and I got plugged into a local running group there. It was full of mostly Scandinavian guys who ran marathons every month or so. This completely shifted the paradigm I'd been operating under. “You CAN”T run more than one marathon a year without injury?” I thought. But with these guys, I did exactly that. I ran the Shanghai marathon, Great Wall marathon, HongZhou marathon, each twice, Nanjing mountain marathon, and many others. Training with these guys, I increased my mileage a lot, and I started doing martial arts and p90x plyo training to strengthen my body. It worked. I felt like I was in the best shape of my life. So much so that when my friend Didier Chavet said, “Hey, you should do a 100km, 60 mile, trail race,” I jumped at it. I wanted to see what was possible. But boy,[2] I had NO idea what I was getting into. [fresh music builds] Part 6: Ultramarathon[nature sounds + footsteps] It's over 90 degrees. I've been running, hiking, and climbing, mostly by myself, for more than eight and a half hours on the beautiful, rugged terrain of southwest China. I'm descending a large canyon with a black, 3000 foot granite wall that's radiating the desert sun heat onto me as I climb down.  My body feels like it's right at the edge of shutting down. My legs quake with every big step, and when I bite into my Camelback valve to suck in some much needed water, I feel nothing but thick saliva and air in my mouth. It's empty. I have no more water and I'm in the middle of nowhere China all by myself descending into Tiger Leaping Gorge. My mind starts to race. All the inner critics come out saying, “You're so stupid. You have three kids and a wife and you're not going to make it home. Who do you think you are for doing this silly race?” I was also kicking myself because I'd initially signed up for only 60k, 40 miles, but when I heard the race director describing the beautiful views of the 100k race, I changed my mind last minute. I had enough supplies and thought, “Why not? When else will I be in southwest China?” This was the first day of the 100k race. I was supposed to run 40k, 25 miles, and already I wasn't sure if I was going to make it. My body was shot from the 10,000 foot elevation climb I'd already made that day, and I was really second guessing this step to become an ultramarathoner.  I prayed and thought, “Well, what can I do? Stopping in the middle of the dessert didn't seem like a good option.  Well, Ikeep putting one foot in front of the other and I'll go a little slower. I'll conserve energy. And I'll keep my eyes open for anybody that might be out here and see if they have some water. If not, maybe I can figure out a way to go down to the river.”  I knew drinking out the river was not a smart thing to do, but definitely better than cramping up and not being able to move or completely dehydrating and damaging myself. So I slowly rounded the next switchback and as I came around to the next part of the trail, I saw a young lady tending her goats.  In broken Chinese I said, “Hey, do you have something to drink?” Maybe she knew the race was coming through, because she had two or three Chinese versions of gatorades in a little woven basket in the shade. I always carried money when I ran long distances in China so I gave her 20 RMB or so and she was really happy with that even though I couldn't really communicate too well because my Chinese is so bad.  That was truly a godsend. I slugged down two or three 16 ounces of Gatorade equivalent and was able to finish that day of the race. Later that night, all the racers (the ones doing the 60k AND 100k) all met up and stayed at a little country bed and breakfast. We ate food, drank beer and just enjoyed the camaraderie with one another.  But that next morning, I woke up and couldn't move my legs. They were unbelievably sore. I've experienced pain and soreness before — but NOTHING like this. I told my friend Andrew Lacey who was doing the race as well, “Look, I think I'm done. I can't move my legs.” Andrew replied, “Well, do what you can do. Can you get out of bed?” “Yeah,” I said. “I think so.” So I moved my legs over the edge of the bed. It took a lot to stand up. The pain was there, but I could do it. I walked around a little bit, and every step was really painful. I said, “I'm done, I'm just going to quit or at the most finish with the 60k runners.” Andrew encouraged me to walk around a little bit more to work out the lactic acid and said, “It's gonna hurt whether you do it or not. And maybe it hurts less if you do it.” To get to breakfast, I had to walk down a spiral staircase. The whole way hurt, but Andrew kept saying, “Just do what you can do. Don't give up because something hurts or give up because it's hard. Just do what you can do. If you can take another step, take another step.”  Luckily on that day, the 20k version and the 40k version started together. So I had a big breakfast, worked on my legs with the roller and learned how to run using my glutes instead of my quads from one of the other runners.  It hurt a lot, but it also hurt a lot to sit. So I kept focusing on what I could do, and didn't stop even when I felt that pain. After an hour or so of running, the lactic acid cycled through and my legs didn't hurt. I ran another 40 kilometers (25 miles) — almost a full marathon that day. And I made a BETTER time than I had the previous day.  By the third day, I felt strong. There was a lot of sliding down hills through pine forests, which was so much fun because it felt like skiing on pine needles. I had adjusted to the altitude and finished feeling great. 20k (13 miles) that day seemed easy, even if it was after running back to back marathons the 2 days before . At the end when they started calling the winners of age brackets, they called out ‘Art Blanchford' for third place. It felt amazing. Of course later I would find out that there were only three in my age bracket, but it was still a great experience. It had been a LONG journey from that doctor's office in Germany to now — over 10 years. But it was ALL worth it. [music swells] Part 7: 5 Steps to Lasting Change I wanted to share my couch potato to ultramarathoner story with you because I think we sometimes expect ourselves to transition and transform as fast as possible. But often that's not how real, lasting change happens.  In fact, you'll be shocked at the power of small, incremental changes. The impossible will become possible.  Whether you want to work on your physical health or something else entirely, here are some ways you can implement that slow and steady transition. First, get in the habit of doing something — even if it's really small. You hear my story of how I started walking 15 minutes every morning, James Clear mentions it in his book, Atomic Habits, if you want to get in the habit of being somebody who: fill-in-the-blank, start small, really small, but do it consistently over time Maybe you want to be somebody who works out.  Then do something every day, go for a walk or go s to the gym. Amount of time does not matter here. It could be as small as five minutes. You're just getting in the habit of doing something.  Maybe you want to become somebody who always takes the stairs instead of the elevator or somebody who parks in the farthest parking space to get extra steps.  And make it easy on yourself. If you want to be somebody who works out in the morning, have your exercise clothes or swimsuit already laid out the night before. Again, it'all about getting in the habit of DOING something and doing it consistently. Second, make steady progress. Everybody overestimates what they can accomplish in one year, but most people UNDERESTIMATE what they'll accomplish in three years. Take a, long term outlook and make steady progress.  Remember, you're not out there to prove anything. You're out there to improve. That's true for all of life, but especially when you're getting in shape. It's not about comparing yourself to your friends, or how much you can do on the first day or even the first year. It's about slow and steady improvement leading to a new you  Third, find your joy. This is a really important one because whatever you choose, you want to be able to stick with it for a long time. Maybe you don't like walking or running, but you really like skipping, biking, swimming, or playing paddle ball. Find your joy to be willing or even excited tostick with it for a while.  I didn't realize how much I really loved running until I'd been doing it for a few years. So give something a try, and be willing to stick with it for a while before you reevaluate. When you find your joy, you'll start to see exercise not as something you should do, but something youlove to do. And that makes all thedifference.   Fourth, hang out with people who inspire you in that space. There are so many ways to hang out with people who enjoy doing the same kind of physical activity as you. You can read books, listen to podcasts, or watch athletes on TV. For me, that was reading Jeff Galloway's book on running and Chris McDougall's book called, Born to Run. But my favorite way is to find people who are further ahead in their journey than you. For example, my brother is a much better runner than I am. And I loved training with these crazy Scandinavian running dudes in Shanghai because they really inspired me by showing me what was possible.  So hang out with those that inspire you mentally, physically, and spiritually. Fifth, say “What can I do?” instead of “I can't.” What can you do? What's a little thing you can do? Can you walk around the block? Can you walk up the stairs? Can you pedal your stationary bike for 20 minutes while you watch something on TV? Can you run a mile or two? What can you do?  And as you push yourself to do even more, don't quit. I was out hiking with my son and his scout troop a couple weeks ago, and it was really tough. We did 11 and a half miles on very steep terrain, while carrying heavy packs. After about seven and a half hours, the boys were done. They were tired and sore.  So what did I do? I first gave them all something to eat, and then said, “Hey, what can you do? Can you take one step?”  “Yes,” they said. And then it was just one step after the other. It's like that old adage of this journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step. And another. And another. So whenever you feel like quitting, remember to ask yourself, “What can I do?” And then do it. Part 8: Conclusion I really hope you found my story helpful as you begin your journey. Remember, I NEVER thought I would be running ultramarathons when I first started getting into shape. I just wanted to avoid gallbladder surgery and manage my stress better. But now that I am in better shape, I love being fit, as Christopher McDougall says, to be useful. I love the things I can do because I'm fit and not in pain. I can climb trees with my kids, swim out the water falls, clear heavy debris after the tornado, lead the scouts on long hikes, and lift and relocate the furniture for my wife easily. I feel so much more fit than 25 years before I feel usefull in so many ways.  Before we wrap this up, I want to ask you some questions to help you figure out your next steps.What's one small habit you can start today? Something you have been talking to yourself about for a long time?  Can you start doing it just 2 or 5 minutes per day?How can you make steady progress with that habit? Take a three-year view. Where would you like to be? What would bring you joy? What would you like to be able to do three years from now? What has worked for you? What are you already doing? Take a minute and jot that down. Record or write it on your phone. Email or text yourself, or write it on a piece of paper. And please share it with me. I can't wait to hear what you look forward to doing as you make your slow and steady progress. Connect with me on LinkedIn or our website, LifeInTransition.online and let me know if anything stood out to you from this episode. Let a close friend know too — it could be a huge encouragement to them as well.  Thank you so much for joining me today. Make sure you subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts, and it would mean a lot to me if you shared this episode with a friend. I'm Art Blanchford, and I'll see you next time on Life in Transition. [music plays] CREDITS (Don't record) Life in Transition is co-written and produced by Laura Boach. And if you want to learn more about me and what I do when I'm not podcasting, please visit me at artblanchford.com. Life In Transition is a production of  (GFS Sonic Logo [“Great Feeling Studios” read by my nephew followed by a laugh of my son])whistle? gong? not sure what's the norm :)Feel free to chance this to sound more like you

On this episode we're joined by Christopher McDougall and Eric Orton, who just recently released their new book, Born To Run 2. Chris is a runner and author including the original born to run book, and Eric, who is a longtime coach of Eric Orton Running Academy. Grab your copy of Born To Run 2 […] The post Chris McDougall and Eric Orton: On Holistic Training, Healthy Feet, Minimalist Shoes and Why We Need To Be Running Faster in Training first appeared on Endurance Planet.

This is the ideal episode for you if you're ramping up for a race or coming back from injury or pregnancy. Along with hosts Sarah and Molly, famed author Chris McDougall (his newest book, Born to Run 2, was just released!) covers a range of topics, including: -why he wrote a follow-up to his smash hit Born to Run;  -why folks should aim to run well, not necessarily fast or far;  -the remarkable power of fat-focused meals;  -the encouraging news about muscle memory; and,  -how to stop dreading workouts.    In the intro, the hosting duo talks about Sarah's latest aqua adventure; they also talk with the guest about swimming after he joins at 8:02. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

THE SEQUEL IS HERE! 13 years ago, "Born to Run" was released and captivated the running (and non-running) world. Now author Chris McDougall has partnered with coach Eric Orton to write BORN TO RUN 2: The Ultimate Training Guide, the follow-up, fully illustrated companion. Chris and Eric join the show today to talk about some of the stories and anecdotes in the book, finding the joy in running, and why community is one of the most important things for all runners How to refocus on finding the enjoyment in running, even when you're chasing goals The Roman Legions & "all day pace" "100 Ups" and the story of a pharmacist who became a running star by running in place at his job Good running form - what do we mean? The importance of finding "your running people" AVAILABLE NOW: BORN TO RUN 2: The Ultimate Training Guide

Born to Run 2 Authors Share Secrets of Happy Running (and More) – The MOVEMENT Movement with Steven Sashen Episode 150 with Chris McDougall and Eric Orton Trained as a foreign correspondent for the Associated Press, Christopher McDougall covered wars in Rwanda and Angola before writing his international bestseller, Born to Run. His fascination with the limits of human potential led him to his next book, Natural Born Heroes. McDougall also created the Outside magazine web series, "Art of the Hero." Eric Orton's experience with the Raramuri and his study of running, human performance, strength, and conditioning have led him to the cutting edge of the sport and made him a go-to for athletes everywhere. The author of Born to Run 2 and The Cool Impossible, Orton travels the World speaking on running and personally trains athletes from recreational runners to elite ultramarathoners. Listen to this episode of The MOVEMENT Movement with Chris McDougall and Eric Orton about their book, Born to Run 2. Here are some of the beneficial topics covered on this week's show: - How Born to Run kicked off the barefoot running movement in 2009. - Why it's important for people to see others running who aren't fitness models. - How great athletes can use their athleticism to run long distances. - Why people should be having fun when they run ultra-marathons. - How Born to Run 2 is about so much more than just running. Connect with Chris and Eric: Guest Contact Info Twitter@BornToRunWorld Instagram@borntorun_world Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100082984016320 Links Mentioned:borntorun.world Connect with Steven: Website Xeroshoes.com Jointhemovementmovement.com Twitter@XeroShoes Instagram@xeroshoes Facebookfacebook.com/xeroshoes

Want to run faster, farther—and forever? Eric Orton, running coach and co-author of the brand-new book Born to Run 2: The Ultimate Training Guide, is here to tell you how. Orton teamed up with bestselling author Chris McDougall to write this sequel to the 2013 groundbreaking book Born to Run, and now they're back with this comprehensive guide that combines Chris's compelling storytelling with Eric's expertise to cover it all. In this episode, Dimity and Sarah WF have a lively chat with Eric discussing… Why pain should never be the price of admission when it comes to running The importance of foot strength and foot positioning in running—and the simple exercise we should all be doing daily How “movement snacks” can increase mobility and prevent injury Looking at running as an artform that we continuously practice Be sure to tune into Friday's episode with Sarah Bowen Shea and co-host Molly Williams as they bring on McDougall to complete the Born to Run 2 crossover!  Follow Eric on Instagram When you shop our sponsors, you help AMR. We appreciate your—and their—support!   Cheers! Get 20% off all Nuun products with code NUUNAMR20 at Nuunlife.com   Save 45% off bestselling products when you purchase select holiday sets at ThriveCausemetics.com/amr Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With improved running form, you can run faster and safer. In their book, Born to Run 2, Chris McDougall and Eric Orton tell you how. We sat down for an interview, and Chris and Eric dropped a ton of value bombs. Whether you are new to running, or a seasoned runner, this episode has something for you. You can find the full show notes for this episode at 40plusfitnesspodcast.com/567.

Joined today by runner, journalist and New York Times Best Selling Author, Christopher McDougall. Chris talks about growing up in Philly, moving out to Lancaster and then settling down in Hawaii. Chris tells me how he was recruited for crew during his basketball practice and how he parlayed that into rowing for Harvard. We hear how as a failed High School English teacher, he decided to backpack through Europe and before he knew it he was the Associated Press‘ war correspondent in Angola and the Congo. Chris and I open up about the importance of not holding in your feelings and what he saw in Rwanda that made him come back home to the States. We hear how a writing assignment about a Mexican pop star turned into him being immersed in the Tarahumara Tribe and eventually witnessing "The Greatest Race the World Has Ever Seen". As a first time author, Chris recalls checking the reviews on the book, how he starting selling the books himself and how he got booked on the Jon Stewart Show. Chris talks about his newest books "Born to Run 2: The Ultimate Running Training Guide", what we should expect with this sequel book and why every runner needs to get this book. I deep dive into the aspects of Chris' writing: how it was collaborating on this book with Eric Orton, adding sneaker and scientific talk smack in the middle of Born to Run, and the difficulty of writing about himself as the main character. From texting with Rick Rubin, running with the Amish, and just a great conversation with the voice of running, Christopher McDougall. Twitter: https://twitter.com/ChrisMcDougall Instragram: https://www.instagram.com/chrismcdougallauthor/ Website: https://borntorun.world/

Christopher McDougall's Running with Sherman introduces us to the McDougall family and their menagerie--donkeys, rams, chickens, fainting goats--who all live on a small farm in rural Pennsylvania. This book is part scientific exploration of the lost art of connecting with animals, part vivid telling of what life's like in the southern part of Amish country, part radical rehabilitation story, part deep dive into the crazy sport that is burro racing (and the insane training required to run 15 miles with a donkey in tow in Colorado's high altitude), and part road trip that cuts through the best of Americana. Along the way impossibly, improbably, Sherman who starts out as a rescue donkey in this story learns to run. This conversation with Chris McDougall took place several years ago. His newest book, Born to Run 2: The Ultimate Training Guide, will be released in December 2022. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/booktalk-diana-korte/message

Born to Run #2 - the ultimate training guide, an insight into this exciting new book with authors Chris McDougall & Eric Orton. First broadcast on YouTube here (tbc)   Sponsored by CurraNZ blackcurrant extract, 40% off offer here https://www.wildgingerrunning.co.uk/shop/gear/curranz/   Born to Run 2: the ultimate training guide, by Chris McDougall and Eric Orton https://amzn.to/3Ev8Hg5   Born to run: The Hidden Tribe, the Ultra-Runners, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen, by Chris McDougall  https://amzn.to/3E7yE4f   Natural Born Heroes: The Lost Secrets of Strength and Endurance, by Chris McDougall  https://amzn.to/3tvqwpc   Running with Sherman: The Donkey Who Survived Against All Odds and Raced Like a Champion, by Chris McDougall  https://amzn.to/3TC1G1F   The Cool Impossible: The Running Coach from Born to Run Shows How to Get the Most from Your Miles-And from Yourself, by Eric Orton https://amzn.to/3Gx39DB   My book, The Ultimate Trail Running Handbook https://amzn.to/3jgKvTy Please like and subscribe here on YouTube https://linktr.ee/ClaireWGR Follow me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wildgingerrunning/ Support me on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/WildGingerRunning Meet me at Nene Valley trail races https://nenevalleyraces.wordpress.com/

Chris is the runner and writer behind the infamous bestselling book Born To Run. In this episode we talk about: -the legacy of Born To Run -making running joyful -back to basics: food, footwear, and form -chasing mastery not competition -falling in love with the process -consistent improvements and refining your craft Follow Chris on Instagram @chrismcdougallauthor and For The Long Run @forthelrpod --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support Tracksmith Thank you to Tracksmith for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is an independent running brand inspired by a deep love of the sport. Their new Fall Collection just released and is now available. It features staples ready for all your training and racing needs. As the weather begins to change, versatile pieces are essential for handling whatever the season holds. Tracksmith's Twilight Quarter Zip and Horizon Long Sleeve are standout transitional pieces on the run. The pin-dot mesh of the Twilight Quarter Zip makes for a lightweight and airy top that can be layered or worn on its own. The Horizon Long Sleeve delivers the familiar feel of cotton with the performance of a tech blend that can be put through the paces and then be worn out for coffee afterward. Visit Tracksmith to see some of my favorite pieces, and all orders with the code FTLR. It will offer free shipping and a 5% donation to Bigger Than The Trail https://www.bttt.run/ which supports mental health efforts via trail running. Freedom Solar Power This episode is brought to you by Freedom Solar, the company I am using to go solar on my house. When I first started looking into solar, I thought it would be a clunky and expensive process. Going solar isn't as hard as you think it is, and Freedom Solar Power is a turnkey solution focused on educating the consumer and making sure they have all the information they need to make sure going solar is right for them, both financially and as a way to help the planet. With no downpayment required, solar not only ads value to your home and is great for the environment, and might even allow you to save money from day one. Freedom Solar operates in Texas, Colorado, Virginia, and Florida, but there are plenty of other great options nationwide. Previnex This episode is also brought to you by Previnex. Previnex makes clinically effective supplements that promote longevity, performance, and every day health, and they donate vitamins to malnourished children with every customer order. From firsthand experience, I can tell you that Previnex supplements are awesome and flat out work! I highly recommend you check out and try these products for yourself. One of the best parts is that if you don't experience benefits on any product within 30 days, Previnex has a no questions asked 100% money back guarantee for a full refund. You have no risk and everything to gain here. Use code FTLR for 15% off your first purchase of any products at previnex.com. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/forthelongrun/support

On this episode, best-selling author Chris McDougall talks about his new book, Born to Run 2. The long-awaited follow-up to Born to Run is a hybrid of inspiring running stories and practical training advice. McDougall discusses the impact of Born to Run, why he's still a firm believer in minimalism and why he hopes his new book can bring back the joy to people's running. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Conversamos con Christopher McDougall, autor de "Nacidos para Correr" (Born tu Run)... Una leyenda en los micrófonos de ELB...

Born to Run inspired runners all over the world with its story of the Tarahumara Indians alongside Christopher McDougall's quest to run with more joy and less pain. The follow up book digs into the details of training principles you can apply to your own running. Joining us are Christopher McDougall and his longtime coach, Eric Orton.  Their newest book - Born to Run 2 - lays out the path that McDougall followed as he went from chronically injured to successful ultrarunner.   Their new book helps runners revitalize their running through a combination of training principles and supplementary work that prepares the  body to run efficiently. We  focus on several important concepts of the Born to Run approach, including a “speed first” mentality, ways to instill better form, and how to use shoes and barefoot running to your advantage. Whether you're trying to bounce back from injury or find a new way to approach and improve your running, our conversation is filled with practical, actionable training philosophy, including: The value of working on speed before distance How faster running naturally enables better running form Ways that runners can analyze their own form and work on better technique The Rock Lobster cue you'll never forget! What it means to have a supple body that is ready to run Practical ways to implement minimalist running, and how "supershoes" fit into the picture I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as I did! Subscribe to the podcast in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, iHeartRadio, or Google Play.

Barefoot Running Secrets and Stories with the “Barefoot O.G.” Barefoot Ken Bob – The MOVEMENT Movement with Steven Sashen Episode 141 Ken Bob Saxton Ken Bob Saxton is the leading instructor of barefoot running in the United States of America, featured on ABC World News (2005), NPR, Runner's World magazine, The New York Times, and many other newspapers, magazines, radio, and television appearances/mentions locally and around the world, as well as being acknowledged as the “great bearded sage” of barefoot running in the bestseller Born to Run, by Chris McDougall, who calls Ken Bob “The Master of Barefoot Running.” Listen to this episode The MOVEMENT Movement where Ken Bob Saxton discusses barefoot running secrets and stories. Here are some of the beneficial topics covered on this week's show: - How the barefoot running movement began in 2009. - Why you should start slow and listen to your soles when barefoot running. - How ten steps barefoot on rough terrain teaches people more about their running than 10 miles on smooth surfaces. - Why grass and soft sand are the worst places to begin barefoot running. - How barefoot running creates runners who always look like they are having a good time.   Connect with Ken Bob: Links Mentioned: barefootrunning.com Guest Contact Info: Facebook facebook.com/BarefootKenBob Connect with Steven: Website Xeroshoes.com jointhemovementmovement.com Twitter @XeroShoes Instagram @xeroshoes Facebook facebook.com/xeroshoes

Checking in with Chris McDougall aka "Douggs" and Sam Hardy I am a professional BASE jumper and have been BASE jump[ing 25 years I am the founder / owner of LTBJ: www.learntobasejump.com _________________________________________________________ In this Mental Power Podcast episode #83 we talk about: Douggs would you like to give an Overlook of your Skydive/ BASE History Who came up with the idea for LTBJ and how did you start the BASE School What is the deeper thought behind the school, why you want to teach people to BASE jump What are your thoughts on the learning content, how did you develop the different sections and what exactly do they learn Would you like to introduce the structure of the Learn to Base Jump FJC – First Jump Course, Theory, practical and jumping What physical challenges have the students to overcome What mental Challenges are a big issue What is your experience, people start with a certain idea of the sport, once they stand on the edge themselves it might not meet their expectations. How many take a glimse of the sport and soon drop out again Once they passed FJC-First Jump Course they know the basics. How do you accompany them along the way in their further jumping development Would you guys like to share some thoughts on the danger of the sport What do you think about Ego in the Sport In your opinion, how can accidents be prevented or what can the community do, or every single jumper, to accomplish a strong Riskmanagement for themselves and also when in groups Douggs, you are a Keynote speaker and teach people how to strengthen their leadership skills and also the ability to stay calm and focused in high pressure situations, would you like to share some insights on that What recommendations can you give to people who are interested in the Sport but haven't started yet What can you recommend BASE Jumpers in general _________________________________________________________ Douggs sport background: World champion BASE jumper Skydiving world record holder Represented Australia in both skydiving and BASE jumping Worked with many major brands in the media 4500+ BASE jumps 7300+ skydives _________________________________________________________

Make sure you head to www.mandukyayoga.com/become-a-member to join me and my wonderful wife Jenny, for 11 weekly live classes all for just £15 a month. All classes are recorded for you viewing pleasure on catch up. Please also find time to rate/review and share this podcast (episode and show in general) if you enjoy it. THE MAN THE LEGEND BAREFOOT TED......thats right for all you who have read born to run by Chris Mcdougall you will know who barefoot ted is, for those of you who haven't he is an barefoot/minimalist shoe endurance athlete who has completed in some of the words hardest ultra marathons and has the ultimate in positive energy he just exudes in every minute. We were straight into the conversation in this one so excuse it starting mid sentence but we were just chatting some gold from the moment we started. Hope you enjoyed this episode and please do let me know what you thought and share it around as well.

This week Chris McDougall joins Clint and Jack to chat about Born to Run, Philadelphia, narrating audiobooks, SwimRun, Natural Born Heros, Malcolm Gladwell, high school rowing, living in Amish country, Luis Escobar, Born to Run 2, being on The Daily Show and beer. You can find Chris on Instagram @chrismcdougallauthor and join the Born to Run 2 World @borntorun_world Help support our show on Patreon. Get a shout-out and get some bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/beerontherun Check out our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/969035247373743. Find our podcast on Instagram @BeerOnTheRunPod and on Twitter @BeerOnTheRun. All of our links are on our Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/BeerOnTheRunPod. Come by and say hi and let us know what you think about our show. Please check out our friend and sponsor's website and podcast. Luis Escobar is the host of The Road Dog Podcast and puts on races at All We Do Is Run. 

In this Audio Article, Chris McDougall argues that management and leadership are not two ends of a spectrum; they are complementary lines of effort that all bosses need to excel at.

On this episode, I get to talk to a legend in the running world: Barefoot Ted. I first learned about him through the book, Born to Run, by Chris McDougall, which fundamentally changed the way I run and, more importantly, completely removed the persistent knee pain that used to accompany my runs. He's probably one of the most energetic people I've ever had on the podcast and hearing his journey is bound to inspire you. Links: BarefootTed.com - https://www.barefootted.com Luna Sandals - https://lunasandals.com Don't forget to subscribe

The first time I saw the Bamf Hammer on  Basic Dude Stuff on Insta , I knew I needed to find out all about it. Shawn is a true student of human movement. An American Ninja Contestant and fitness expert, he researched all the Disciplines, Parkour, Erwin Lecorre, Chris McDougall, Steve Maxwell, Mace Training, Kettlebell and many more. But the SuperHeroes Thor and Captain America gave him his Eureka moment  and the BAMF HAMMER was born.   Revolutionising training, combining functionality and fun, Shawn the Hammer Ninja  has a full 12 week training program on YouTube to go with this awesome tool. You can find out more at www.bamfhammer.com and on Insta @bamfhammer and @shawn_thehammerninja links for my former shows are here- spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1rlAGRXCwLIJfQCQ5B3PYB?si=UmgsMBFkRfelCAm1E4Pd3Q Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/DRN1Life Itunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/straight-talk-mind-and-muscle-podcast/id1315986446?mt=2 YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpt-Zy1jciVn7cWB0B-y5WATyzrzfwucZ 
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My very special guest today has a career spanning 25 years as a professional skydiver, BASE jumper and Wingsuit pilot, He is one of the most experienced extreme sports athletes on the planet with over 13,000 jumps combined. His adventures have taken him around the globe with success in all areas including becoming a world champion, a world record holder and representing his native country ​of Australia in both skydiving and BASE jumping in several disciplines. Please help me welcome to the podcast, from Melbourne, Australia now living in Switzerland, Chris “Douggs” McDougall! Through his extreme sports background and expertise in risk management, Chris founded the world's leading BASE jump school Learn to Base Jump, training hundreds of students ​- from beginners to experts. His life has been a series of mind-blowing ups and harrowing downs-life experiences that he brings to his courses.​ Chris McDougall is also an author and motivational speaker. He lives by three words: Dream, Challenge and Inspire-Dare to Dream, Challenge yourself to live out those dreams and then inspire others to do so themselves. Please subscribe to his amazing YouTube channel (with over 38 million views!) and please give him a follow on Instagram (douggsbase) and Facebook. And to check out the book he wrote, please head over to Amazon.com or wherever you buy books. Please enjoy this episode with Chris McDougall. He gives great advice that everyone should hear. Listen here or wherever you get your podcasts. My First Season is available on: Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Podbean App, Spotify, Amazon Music/Audible, TuneIn + Alexa, iHeartRadio, PlayerFM and Listen Notes. **My First Season podcast has always been free to listen to. https://www.youtube.com/user/douggsloosedude https://www.instagram.com/douggsbase/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/ChrisDouggsMcDougall https://www.douggs.com/?fbclid=IwAR33cRJc182VuFsyK1jcJbmmJgcKx1GKcV5iSisXZGhRCDByNiqNKkNYZTQ https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Idiot-Colourful-Tale-Freefall/dp/0620449756/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=confessions+of+an+idiot+chris+mcdougall&qid=1638477999&sr=8-1

“I just want to get as many faces in here that are unlike the other faces that you see all the time.” Chris McDougall, Challis Popkey, Iman Wilkerson, Zachary Friedley, Alejandra Santos, Jenna Crawford, Karma Park, Noah Haidle, Emmanuel Rumes, Eric Orton, and Marcus Rentie gather in a hotel lobby in Colton, CA. to discuss all things running and beyond. Hear secret details about the upcoming book Born To Run 2. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. Squirrel's Nut Butter https://squirrelsnutbutter.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ Allwedoisrun.com Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: luis@roaddogpodcast.com Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: kevin@roaddogpodcast.com yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure With Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

Christopher McDougall is a former war correspondent and the author of Born to Run, the most popular book ever written about the sport of running. McDougall has also explored the ancient art of the hero in Natural Born Heroes and animal-human partnerships in Running with Sherman. He's currently on a new project that involves big waves, deep bruises, and the occasional shark.•This episode of The Ready State Podcast is sponsored by LMNT, our favorite electrolyte drink mix. It was created based on a science-backed electrolyte ratio, with no sugar, no coloring, no artificial ingredients, or any other junk. Everyone needs electrolytes, but if you're an active person and/or on a low-carb diet, you really need electrolytes to feel and perform your best. We drink LMNT every single day and it is our go-to drink for mountain biking. For more info and to get a free sample pack (just pay shipping), click thereadystate.com/FreeLMNT!

If you look up 'extreme' in the dictionary I think you'll very well see a picture of today's guest. Chris McDougall has spent 25 years as a professional skydiver, BASE jumper and wingsuit pilot. Douggs is one of the most experienced extreme sports athletes on the planet with over 13,000 (yep, that's thirteen thousand) jumps combined. He throws himself out off buildings, bridges, cliff faces and out of planes, for 'fun'. Originally from Australia the sport has taken him around the globe as a world champion and world record holder in both skydiving and base jumping. He's a bit crazy, he's a bit inspiring, he's a bit insightful and a he's a bit hilarious and I'm partial to all of the above so of course, I loved this chat but I'm no closer to throwing my good self off a cliff anytime soon… Chris stopped counting at around 130 friends lost through the sports, including his girlfriend in a skydiving accident in Australia. Such experiences along with losing both of his parents to illness when they were relatively young opens an interesting conversation around how we live in the present moment, access flow state, deal with life, loss and grief, and how we trust our instincts when it matters most. EPISODE SPONSOR | Accord Conveyancing Website: www.accordconveyancing.com.au CHRIS McDOUGALL Website: www.douggs.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: https://linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches Website: www.rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: www.facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/tiffaneeandco --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/roll-withthepunches/message

Why do humans have butt cheeks? Neil deGrasse Tyson, Chuck Nice, and Gary O’Reilly learn about the biomechanics of running with professor and running specialist Dr. Irene Davis, featuring Neil’s interview with author Chris McDougall. NOTE: StarTalk+ Patrons can watch or listen to this entire episode commercial-free. Thanks to our Patrons Stephan Hoffmann Arvidsson, Louis Palen, Kara Young, Nick Skibicki, Jennifer Magnus, Ceasar Perez, Cameron Bishop, dniel, Pouneh Golabian, and Coleman for supporting us this week. Photo Credit: https://fshoq.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ever seen a chimpanzee go for a jog? On this episode, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Gary O’Reilly, and Chuck Nice discover how humans came to run with journalist and author of Born to Run, Chris McDougall, and evolutionary anthropologist, Herman Pontzer. NOTE: StarTalk+ Patrons can watch or listen to this entire episode commercial-free here: https://www.startalkradio.net/show/born-to-run-with-chris-mcdougall-and-herman-pontzer/ Thanks to our Patrons Alex Ornelas, Albert Holk, Andrew, Vic Chohda, Nina Barton, Jeff Crain, BigYay Theory (Yancey), eric pihl, Roman Prekop for supporting us this week. Photo Credit: Gregory Wilson, CC BY 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Barefoot Running Secrets and Stories with the “Barefoot O.G.” Barefoot Ken Bob   – The MOVEMENT Movement with Steven Sashen Episode 082 Ken Bob Saxton   Ken Bob Saxton is the leading instructor of barefoot running in the United States of America, featured on ABC World News (2005), NPR, Runner's World magazine, The New York Times, and many other newspapers, magazines, radio, and television appearances/mentions locally and around the world, as well as being acknowledged as the “great bearded sage” of barefoot running in the bestseller Born to Run, by Chris McDougall, who calls Ken Bob “The Master of Barefoot Running.”   Listen to this episode The MOVEMENT Movement where Ken Bob Saxton discusses barefoot running secrets and stories.   Here are some of the beneficial topics covered on this week's show: How the barefoot running movement began in 2009. Why you should start slow and listen to your soles when barefoot running. How ten steps barefoot on rough terrain teaches people more about their running than 10 miles on smooth surfaces. Why grass and soft sand are the worst places to begin barefoot running. How barefoot running creates runners who look like they are having a good time.   Connect with Ken Bob: Links Mentioned: barefootrunning.com Guest Contact Info: Facebook facebook.com/BarefootKenBob Connect with Steven: Website xeroshoes.com jointhemovementmovement.com Twitter  @XeroShoes Instagram  @xeroshoes Facebook  facebook.com/xeroshoes

Episode 45 - Panos GonosPanos introduce himself as the Editor of RaceDirectorsHQ.com, but he's much more than that. He started out in the running industry as a race director with the 2016, The Heroes Ultra, which sounds incredibly epic by the way, and which covered 100 miles through the Cretan mountains and villages retracing the steps of a famous abduction of a wanted German commander and war criminal. To read more on this fascinating story, here's the link to its wikipedia page and the race was also inspired by the Chris McDougall book, Natural Born HeroesPanos and I also chat about the RD Hub Group on Facebook, where likeminded race directors get to chat about current issues affecting races on a local or global level. This insightful discussion covers many topics including how will we feel when racing returns and the emotions that will accompany that first race. So here we go with episode 45 or Front Runner RadioEnjoy

Athletes, especially long-distance runners, sustain a lot of injuries in their career. Their injuries mainly affect the lower extremities, like the calf or the foot. Wearing the appropriate gear and proper shoes, as well as using orthotics, can make a lot of difference.  Dr Colin Dombroski joins us in this episode to explain the benefit of orthotics to foot health. He also talks about common running injuries and how wearing the correct shoes can prevent these. If you are a runner and want to know more about orthotics and the science behind shoes, then this episode is for you.   Get Customised Guidance for Your Genetic Make-Up For our epigenetics health program all about optimising your fitness, lifestyle, nutrition and mind performance to your particular genes, go to  https://www.lisatamati.com/page/epigenetics-and-health-coaching/. You can also join their free live webinar on epigenetics.   Online Coaching for Runners Go to www.runninghotcoaching.com for our online run training coaching.   Consult with Me If you would like to work with me one to one on anything from your mindset, to head injuries,  to biohacking your health, to optimal performance or executive coaching, please book a consultation here: https://shop.lisatamati.com/collections/consultations   Order My Books My latest book Relentless chronicles the inspiring journey about how my mother and I defied the odds after an aneurysm left my mum Isobel with massive brain damage at age 74. The medical professionals told me there was absolutely no hope of any quality of life again, but I used every mindset tool, years of research and incredible tenacity to prove them wrong and bring my mother back to full health within 3 years. Get your copy here: http://relentlessbook.lisatamati.com/ For my other two best-selling books Running Hot and Running to Extremes chronicling my ultrarunning adventures and expeditions all around the world, go to https://shop.lisatamati.com/collections/books.   My Jewellery Collection For my gorgeous and inspiring sports jewellery collection ‘Fierce’, go to https://shop.lisatamati.com/collections/lisa-tamati-bespoke-jewellery-collection.   Here are three reasons why you should listen to the full episode: Discover the benefits of orthotics and modern imaging techniques in foot health. Learn more about common running-specific injuries and ways to prevent them. Know about the brain-foot connection and the knock-on effect of footwear. Resources The Foot Strength Plan by Colin Dombroski The Plantar Fasciitis Plan by Colin Dombroski Born to Run by Christopher McDougall The Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast SoleScience Connect with Colin: Website | Email | Facebook | Skype: solescience   Episode Highlights [03:14] Colin’s Background Colin designs and manufactures custom foot orthotics.  His researches revolve around general footwear, lower extremity therapy, and how these things interact to make people better. Colin works on 3D printing orthotics, which shows how the foot works or moves in real-time.  He works with people to get them back on their feet and do what they want to do. [04:36] How Foot Imaging Works Colin uses a 3D motion analysis lab to study the workings of the lower extremities. Alternatively, he also partners with the WOBL lab to do biplanar fluoroscopy. This procedure maps out somebody’s foot in 3D space.  It helps understand what is happening to the foot in real-time; it shows feet in a shoe under different circumstances.  Colin looks into the best way to make an orthotic for someone. Imaging helps to see what is happening in the foot when a person is barefoot, in a shoe, or using orthotics.  [09:56] Are Orthotics Generally Good? Orthotics are neither good nor bad; we cannot generalise.  It may be suitable for someone with arthritis but may not be beneficial to someone with no problems.  Orthotics are used as tools to help people with recovery and performance.  Colin’s job is to tell people whether they need orthotics or not.  When they have done their job, they’re removed. [12:57] Rehabilitation vs Orthotics In mild foot aches, over-the-counter devices can work well.  Orthotics are not a first-line treatment for some conditions.  Look at other things first before going down the route of orthotics.  Foot strengthening is very beneficial.  Do simple things that make feet work as feet.  [16:55] Does Wearing Shoes Result in Weaker Feet? Not walking for a few blocks is just as harmful as having shoes that do not fit you.  Poorly fitting shoes can be bad for you.  Women wearing high-heeled shoes for a long time can have a lot of foot problems later on.  Colin recommends we exercise moderation when wearing heels.  [25:15] How to Prevent Running Injuries Injuries usually result in a mismatch between the style of a person’s foot and the kind of shoe they wear.  Footwear should fit into your foot design so you don’t cram your toes.  Some shoes may fit while you are buying them in a store, but they may end up not fitting at all or when you are already running long distances. If you don’t know how the sock liner, width, toe spring, and heel drop of the shoe interact, the potential for injury is more significant.  Listen to the full episode to learn more about the running injuries that Colin has encountered and how to prevent them. [32:42] Running on Concrete vs Running on Natural Terrain The natural terrain is easy to run on compared to concrete.  Mitigate the force of initial contact to avoid injuries.  Listen to the full episode to learn more about what type of shoe you need for different surfaces. [34:29] On Transitioning Your Footwear If you want to go barefoot, do it gradually. Scientific literature has discussed the importance of transition shoes. If you’re going to drop your 10- to 12-millimetre heel drop shoe to 4, you need to have a 6- to 8-millimetre transition shoe.  [37:22] How Often Should We Change Shoes? Do not let shoes sit on shelves for more than two years because the material stiffens. In general, alternating shoes are good after 6800 kilometres.  However, this still depends on how quickly you wear out the outsole of your shoes.  Having shoes with different heel heights for different types of running would be very beneficial.  [42:59] The Brain-Foot Connection When you ignore stabilisers and prime mover muscles, you get a mismatch in balance and performance.  It’s important at the lower leg holistically.  Colin acknowledges that we get a different sensation if we’re barefoot versus when we have socks and shoes on. However, it’s a misnomer to say that putting on footwear reduces your proprioception or sensation. Your brain adjusts to the sensory input being thrown its way. [48:39] Achilles Injuries Achilles injuries result when people change the drop of their shoe or change their running style too quickly.  There is a genetic predisposition for people with Achilles issues.  Using things like heel lifts in footwear takes some load off the Achilles, allowing it to heal. Any ankle restriction can make you use your Achilles differently.  Listen to the full episode to learn about the importance of a multidisciplinary approach in looking at conditions.   7 Powerful Quotes ‘If someone's not getting the right kind of results, it could be that they just need to be adjusted. But then some people don't believe that they need to be adjusted. They believe your foot functions best one particular way’. ‘I think that a lot of people have lost the ability to connect with their brain and their feet and they need to get that ability back’. ‘It's not putting everything into a box of good or bad, you know, but it's looking at it holistically’. ‘We get back to my point where [we do things in] moderation. There's a time to spend time in the sand, there's a time to spend time in the trail, and there's time to get on the road’. ‘If you can get that little bit of variability where you're lengthening some days, you're shortening some days, you're doing different things and your body is used to that, then you're going to be more adaptive. But if you lock into that one pattern, it's going to be so much harder to change’. ‘You also need to have a really good understanding of the whole anatomy of the body because you have to be holistic in your approach’. ‘You know your limits better than somebody else. But I think that there's also a time when you do need to respect the knowledge that someone's gone and spent time attaining.   About Dr Colin Dombroski Dr Colin Dombroski is a podiatrist and a foot specialist of 20 years; he is also an author and a researcher. He works in the world of shoes, orthotics, rehab, and range. He specialises in any feet issues, from plantar fasciitis to Achilles injuries.  Connect with Colin through his website. You may also reach out to him through email or Facebook.   Enjoy the Podcast? If you did, be sure to subscribe and share it with your friends! Post a review and share it! If you enjoyed tuning in, then leave us a review. You can also share this with your family and friends so they can know more about the proper shoes to use for running.  Have any questions? You can contact me through email (support@lisatamati.com) or find me on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube. For more episode updates, visit my website. You may also tune in on Apple Podcasts. To pushing the limits, Lisa   Full Transcript Of The Podcast Welcome to Pushing The Limits, the show that helps you reach your full potential with your host Lisa Tamati, brought to you by lisatamati.com. Lisa Tamati: You're listening to Pushing The Limits with Lisa Tamati, your host. I have a fantastic gift again for you today. Gosh, I managed to come up with some amazing people. So I have the guest Dr Colin Dombroski, who is a podiatrist and expert on everything foot. He's known as the foot specialist. He is the author of two books, Healthy Strong Feet, and The Plantar Fasciitis Plan. He's a researcher, and also has a shoe—a specialist running shoe shop. He knows everything about the cutting edge of foot health.  So this is a topic that's really important, obviously, for all the runners listening out there. Or if you're having any sort of issues with your feet, maybe you're dealing with plantar fasciitis, maybe you have to have orthotics, or you've got arthritis, or you've got bunions, or you've got problems with your Achilles or further up the kinetic chain, then this is the episode for you because we're going to be talking about the cutting edge of science. Dr Colin is really up on the latest thing. He has all the fancy gadgets in his lab that he does. And so it's a really, really interesting conversation that I have with Dr Colin.  Now before we go over to the show. If you are also looking for—doing a running training plan that fits your life and without having to think about how to assemble the entire plan yourself, then please come and check out what we do at Running Hot Coaching. We have a brand new package that we now offer and there's a fully customised package to you, to your goals, to your injuries, your lifestyle, anything that's holding you back, and we can customise it to you. And you'll also get full video analysis done with this package and a one-on-one consult with me in a personalised plan for your next event. Whether that be a marathon, a half marathon, ultramarathon, 10K, it doesn't really matter that's up to you. And you get 12 months of access to Running Hot Coaching’s whole resource library and all the other plans that are available on me, so it’s a super, super deal.  You also get access to our community of over 700 runners from around the world that we get to coach nowadays and hang out with them. And also we do live events on occasion and do regular educational webinars and so on. So everything running. If you want help with it, then we would love to help you get in—make the best out of your running. Okay, so check that out at runninghotcoaching.com.  Right, over to the show now with Dr Colin Dombroski.  Lisa Tamati: Well, hello, everyone. Welcome back to Pushing The Limits. It's your host, Lisa Tamati here. And today I have Colin Dombroski with me, all the way from Ontario in Canada. So welcome to the show, Colin. Fantastic to have you. Dr Colin Dombroski: Thanks so much for having me. Lisa: It's really, really exciting. So I am going to be talking to you today about feet. You are the foot guy. You are known as the foot guy. Colin, can you give us a bit of a brief background, why are you known as the foot guy? Dr Colin: Well, I mean, I'm a Canadian certified podiatrist first and foremost. So I'm trained in both the design and the manufacturer of custom foot orthotics, foot orthotics in general, footwear and lower extremity therapy care, and how those things interact to get people better. And so, we started that back in 2002. And since then, I've gone on to do PhD work in Health and Rehabilitation Science, and research and everything from the basic 3D printings of orthotics to how the foot’s actually moving in a shoe using things like a biplanar fluoroscopy and CT imaging to really understand what's actually going on, as opposed to just kind of guessing and thinking about it or looking at video without actually being able to see inside the shoe.  And so we've seen tens of thousands of patients. We've worked with people over the last 20 years, really working to get them back up and on their feet and doing the things that they want to do to stay healthy. And for some people, it's as simple as walking around the block and for other people it's going to the Olympics in Tokyo. Lisa: Wow, fantastic.  So you're deep into the science... Dr Colin: Yes. Lisa: ...of the absolute cutting edge of what we can do now for foot issues and optimising foot health. So tell us a little bit about some of the fancy stuff that you can do, like, how that—you said there you can look into the inside a shoe or...  Dr Colin: Yes. Lisa: ...rather than just looking at video. How does that work? Dr Colin: I'll tell you on the research side, there's all kinds of fancy stuff that we were able to do. And so, right now I have an academic appointment through Western University in the School of Physical Therapy. So, I'm lucky enough to be able to do research in what I do specifically. So—and we can do that in a couple of different ways. One is that we actually have a full 3D motion analysis lab at our main business in London Ontario. So it's seven Vicon cameras, much like the way you would see motion analysis for video games or for the movies.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Colin: Well, we use that to study how the lower extremity works in the human body. And so we can either put markers on the foot and cut windows into the shoe, so we can see how things move. That's one way to do it. The other way that we've done it is working with another lab called the wobble lab, and they have two movie x-rays, or what's called biplanar fluoroscopy. And then what we can do is have a CT of somebody's foot, we can take those bones out, we can map them in three-dimensional space. And at 17 times per second, we can move that bone model on top of the actual movie x-ray model to understand what's happening to the foot and the bones in real-time in a shoe, under different circumstances, whether that's no orthotic, orthotic, and we can compare that to their walking barefoot as well. Lisa: That is insane Colin. I have no idea. Dr Colin: Yes. it's a cool thing. And if you go on the website, if you go on—I think we have a fluoroscopy video up on stuff about feet. But if we don't, there's certainly one up on the research section of SoleScience, and you're able to actually watch, you can see what we're looking at through this thing.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Colin: And it's really cool to know. And what's really interesting when we look at this stuff is that we wanted to know when we make somebody an orthotic. What's the best way to do that for someone? There's different ways that we can capture somebody's foot, whether we use a foam or a wax method or a plaster mould of somebody's foot, we wanted to know kind of based on a couple of different styles, which one might actually control the motion of their foot a bit better. And we were able to show that one was more effective than another—made a small amount with a very specific foot type.  So, if you have a flatter foot, there are ways of making it that are more effective. But what was really interesting out of that was to look at what was actually happening with the foot when someone was just walking barefoot, when they were just walking in their shoe, or when we put an orthotic in there? Because you know if I can go on a bit of a tangent, there's lots of scary stuff on the internet these days about how, ‘Oh, you don't want to walk in shoes and orthotics because it makes you act like you're walking in a cast. And why would you want to do that'?  Well, what's really interesting is that when we looked at someone's foot walking barefoot, and we compared that to the most supportive thing that we use, they still kept up to 96% of their original motion.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Colin: So, think about that for a second, 96% or one motion.  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: So, you're really at that point, if someone's keeping that much of their original range of motion, you really have to wonder, ‘What are we actually doing with these things?’ And I'm going to argue that it's more than just the shoe on someone's foot. It's more than just the device in that shoe, that there could be a lot more actually going on with these things than we fully understand even though we have the best research methods to be able to look at it.  Lisa: That's amazing. I mean, I'm really, really interested because with orthotics, I've recently gone and got my mum an orthotic and you don't know my mum's story. But she had a massive aneurysm five years ago, has dropped foot on the right side, incredible rehabilitation journey, written a book on it. But we're not having such success with the orthotic yet. We are having success with a Dictus where it's helping lift her foot. And I've had in the past two experiences with orthotics when I've had different issues, like, I can't remember now what specifically, I think it was plantar fasciitis. And I've tried different things, admittedly a while ago, and things have obviously moved on. But I haven't had that much success.  So I'm like, as a running coach, I should know more about the latest in science as far as orthotics go. And whether they're my initial reaction back then was, ‘Well, I don't think orthotics are really working for a lot of people’. That's been the feedback from other people as well. So obviously, the science has moved forward and it is offering new insights and you can actually see in real-time what our bones are doing. I mean, it's just absolutely mental, that's crazy and cool. So do you think—isn't it like walking around with a cast on your foot? We've got this whole barefoot craze that's been in the last few years and then we've got brands like Hoka One One coming out with really cushions. So, I think people are a little bit confused as to what they should be doing.  Dr Colin: Yes, and rightfully so. Lisa: Our orthotic is good. Our orthotics in general is—can we generalise when it's very specific. Dr Colin: Nope. Not at all. We can’t generalise it all and that's the problem when it comes to this stuff is that people are trying to fit everybody into a box. And saying that either it's really good, or it's really bad. It’s either of those things? Like, to the end of the day, if you really need them, if you have rheumatoid arthritis, and you're unable to walk around the block, and I'm able to get you active again, they're really good for you.  Lisa: Yes, absolutely. Dr Colin: Right? But if you have no risk factors, if you have no biomechanical abnormalities, if you have no foot deformities and no other issues, then what's the benefit of wearing them at the end of the day? And so to that end of things, a lot of the time, I feel as though we're missing the middle ground. We're missing the fact that people can use these things, either as a tool to help them with recovery and performance that we can then work to wean them off, if they so choose, or if they need to be, or we use them because there's a real thing where structure dictates function and injury.  But again, why are we looking to see whether or not people are either yes or no, off or on? It's more of a continuum. And I kind of like to look at people and the fact that over on this end of the spectrum, here, you've got people who are so gifted biomechanically that they can do anything they want to do, despite doing it wrong. They can go couch to marathon in old worn-out shoes with poor sleep with bad nutrition, and they can do it and they don't get hurt. And you've got people on the other end of the spectrum that can do everything, right, and work with the best coaches and get the best equipment and eat and sleep and everything else. But they're plagued with injury, right?  Most people are going to be somewhere in the middle, the question though, so, which side of the spectrum do you lie more towards? And that's where I feel my job comes in, is to figure out where that is, and then how to appropriately apply these things, whether or not you actually need them. And I build a business on telling people when they don't need them.  Lisa: That's brilliant.  Dr Colin: And when they don't need them anymore. So, it's actually quite shocking when someone comes into my office for their ninth orthotic, and I say, ‘Well, tell me about it'. And so they—we talk about stuff, and we come to the conclusion that they just don't need them anymore.  And they're shocked, they think that these things are like a lifelong sentence. And they're not. For some people, they are the difference between being able to be active or not. And for other people, there's simply a tool, and we use that tool appropriately, and we remove it. Lisa: That is absolutely gold, Colin. And what a fantastic approach in, like, working with people with disabilities and stuff, I know there are definitely times when we do need them, and they're going to benefit and it is very much about the skill of the person who's fitting the orthotic and knows, obviously, what they're doing. And there’s a lot of advertising out there; rubbish sort of advertising that you see with different standard gum, pick it off the shelf type things, what's your opinion on those types of orthotics?  Dr Colin: Well, I mean, if those—so, if something like that, like if an over the counter device works for you, for—let's say you have a mild case of metatarsalgia. Let's say you have a small ache in the front part of your foot when you're active, and you've done all the rest of the conservative therapy things. You're strong, you're flexible, everything else is ticked off, and you're still not doing well. Sometimes removing that little bit of mechanical stress can be enough that allows the tissues to heal and you can move on. Right? So in those cases, yes, they work quite well.  But in some cases, if you have a foot type that doesn't match up with that shaped plastic that's pushing against your foot, it might not work so much. And kind of to your point where you were saying you had them for plantar fasciitis before, and they just didn't work for you, it could be a multitude of reasons why they didn't work for you. And we see that all the time.  And if someone's not getting the right kind of results, it could be that they just need to be adjusted. But then some people don't believe that they need to be adjusted. They believe your foot functions best, one particular way. And they say, ‘Here, this is for you. This is the way it should be, get used to it'. Lisa: And then it's the whole side of: you should be doing strengthening exercises and rolling and stretching. What's your take on the whole on that side of it? So the rehabilitation side of it as opposed to the orthotic side of the equation? Dr Colin: Well, so my—the way that we teach about orthotics is that orthotics for some conditions are not a first line treatment unless you have significant risk factors. If you're diabetic, then yes, 100% we're making you orthotics. But for a lot of people especially let's take plantar fasciitis for instance. If you come to me and you've had plantar fasciitis only for a few weeks, there is a whole host of other therapies that you can try before you even need to think about that. Is removing the stress off the tissue, the strain off the tissue with the device and footwear appropriate? Heck yes, it is. But there are other things that you need to look at first before you even go down the route of orthotics which is actually why I wrote my first book. And it's to tell people the things that they can do at home to be able to get themselves better for four to six weeks before they have to see somebody like me to think about orthotics.  Lisa: Okay, so what was the title of that book, Colin? Dr Colin: Oh, it's called The Plantar Fasciitis Plan.  Lisa: The Plantar Fasciitis Plan and that is available on Amazon? Dr Colin: Yes.  Lisa: Okay, so in New Zealand, we might struggle with Amazon, but we don't have Amazon down here, believe it or not.  Dr Colin: I have no idea. Lisa: We can access it, but some things can ship from over the air and some not so. But we'll put the links in the show notes for sure for those listening who are overseas and want to read that book. Okay, so you mentioned... Dr Colin: And to speak to your last question...  Lisa: Absolutely. Dr Colin: ...which was, what do you think about the whole foot strengthening part of it?  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: I think it's very important, I think that a lot of people have lost the ability to connect with their brain and their feet, and they need to get that ability back, it's shocking how many people I see that can do something as simple as move their toes, or lift their arch, or do some of the simple things that they need to do to make feet work as feet. Right? And so, getting them back to that foot connection is only a positive thing. Like, the only good things are going to come out of that. Lisa: So, is this like, is this a problem of the modern human because we've walked around in shoes. Did humans, before shoes come along, did we all have great feet? Strong powerful feet because we were barefoot from the get go? So is this a problem of the modern human but like with—I've just done a couple of episodes on breathing and the way that we are chewing is affecting our structure of our mouth and therefore we're not having such good breathing and so on. Is that similar sort of case? Dr Colin: I really think that when you talk to a question about that, it's really hard to compare those two things because we're just not there right now. You know what I mean? So, yes, if we didn't wear clothes, and we didn't drive cars, and we didn't eat the way that we did, yes, things would be different than where they are. But like, we drive our cars to go five blocks down the street to get to Starbucks, we don't walk. So, that alone is just as deleterious as footwear that doesn't fit you properly.  So when it comes to shoes, again, there's lots of scariness out there on the internet, talking about how these things, again, make you walk like your cast or is deforming your feet. And yes, I would agree that a poorly fit shoes that are way too tight cramming your toes, putting stress on nerves and tissues certainly can be a bad thing for you. But do I think that there's this gigantic conspiracy out there that's making the collective feet of the world less strong and everything else? No, I really don't, to that end. And again, as a recovery tool, they can be marvellous things if done correctly. Lisa: Yes, it's a really good approach. I mean, it reminds me of my dad's feet. My dad who recently passed, unfortunately. But my dad had the most amazing, strong, powerful feet, he grew up in the first 13 years of life and not wearing shoes. Came from a very humble background with eight children, and they only had one pair of gumboots in the family. So he grew up with these incredibly powerful feet.  By the time he was in his 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, he could walk around barefoot all day, never have any sort of problems. The state of his heels weren't the best. But muscular feet, really strong powerful feet, because he didn't wear shoes until he was older and then still like to go barefoot whenever possible, actually connected to the earth, weed garden all day, and their feet at the most jungles. So I did see it in that. Quite the effects of having that real connection to Mother Earth if you like in developing those sort of strong muscles in our feet.  And then on the other side of the equation. I see people with diabetics or close to being pre-diabetic problems with extremely tender feet and poor circulation in the feet and their feet are just not moving well and have always been in shoes. So it's like opposite ends of the scale via. So, where was I going with this? There's a real broad range of where people are at. Another thing that I think is to consider is women in high heeled shoes, what's your take on that sort of a problem? Like, were lifting your heels up and having a shortened calf. And that's sort of a problem. Dr Colin: Well, I mean, that for too long of a period of time just gives you a whole myriad of problems from metatarsalgia, and progressing bunion issues, and nerve problems, and chronically short Achilles because of that shortening specifically, yes. I mean, we see that all the time. I'm very much a fan of moderation when it comes to these things.  And so for a lot of my patients, if they want to spend an evening, every now and again, where they're primarily sitting in a pair of heels, then I feel as though the trade-off for what they get out of that is okay, comparatively. Again, it's not putting everything into a box of good or bad, but it's looking at it holistically.  Lisa: Brilliant. I think it's a really good approach. Dr Colin: Yes, if you're a retail worker, and you're spending 10 hours a day, on your feet, heels are definitely not the thing you want to be wearing. Lisa: Yes, you've got to sacrifice the elegance, ladies. Sometimes you help that little pushes. Dr Colin: A little bit sometimes. And you know where I end up seeing that a lot? It’s in lawyers. A lot of my patients who are lawyers. There is definitely a culture of dress code and professionalism that comes from wearing heels. And I see a lot of injured lawyers because of that, specifically.  Lisa: Isn't that interesting? So yes, really take heed because I do think doing that on a daily basis, yes. The odd night out in a pair of heels to look elegant is fine, but not doing it every single day, were you really shortening, I mean, just, I'm always sort of relating things back to my life. But with mum having aneurysm, being bedridden pretty much for 18 months before we could get her standing. And I didn't understand at the beginning about drop foot, I missed the boat. And by the time I realised what drop foot was, that had happened very, very quickly, that her foot was now dropped until we're still working on that right through now, to be able to lift set front of the foot up and having to use a Dictus in her case, which lifts the front of the foot up. So it happens very—it happens quicker than what you think. Dr Colin: It can, certainly. Yes. Now the brace that your mum's using, do you mind if I asked you a quick question? Is she using an over-the-counter one or a custom one? Lisa: So it's an over-the-counter Dictus one as I didn't know there was such a thing as a customised Dictus. So it's just a leather strap that goes around with a rubber that goes over inside these two little hooks at the bottom of the shoes that pulls the shoe up. So is there something better, Colin? Dr Colin: Well, so, take a look for something called an Allard ToeOff AFO. And we use them a lot in clinics for patients with drop foot and they're actually designed to be to run marathons and events and they're quite robust.  Lisa: Okay, I’ll take note of that. Dr Colin: And it might be a great training tool too. They're very light. You should wear them under a pair of pants. A lot of people like the fact that they don't see the direct brace.  Lisa: Yes, yes. Yes, exactly. This one's quite ugly. So, is it Allard?  Dr Colin: A-L-L-A-R-D. Lisa: Oh, brilliant.  Dr Colin: So as in Allard ToeOff.  Lisa: Allard ToeOff, I will check that out. See, this is a selfish reason why I get to talk to experts.  Dr Colin: There we go.  Lisa: Because you never know when it's gonna help somebody you know? It's fantastic. I'll check that one out. Yes, because that is a real problem. And there's so many—this is not a rare thing, drop foot. It's a very, very common thing with people with strokes and aneurysms and the like.  Dr Colin: It is. Lisa: So, there's a lot of people dealing with it so going into the rehabilitation side of things. We have a shoe that has a rocker so she's able to toe-off slightly better in that rocker and keep her center of mass moving forward. Rather than sitting really back which she was doing. So yes, so I'm always looking for the next best thing for my mum from the show. So, appreciate that. Dr Colin: No problem. And since you're a runner and all that stuff, the Asics Metaride is my favourite carbon shoe rocker. We've got so many people who really require surgery, fusions, things like that because of osteoarthritic toes or ankles or mid feet that can get into a shoe like that.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Colin: And for people who are that age, they're not nearly as flashy looking as some of the other carbon rockered shoes that are available. Lisa: Yes, but who cares as long as they function properly. Okay, Asics Metaride. Okay, we'll check those one out too. Now let's jump ship and change direction a little bit and go into running specific injuries. So we did touch briefly on playing to the shortest. But what are some of the common injuries that you see? And what are some of the ways that we can prevent? And how does it have a knock-on effect? Like what happens in your feet, knocks on the kinetic chain, doesn't it? Dr Colin: Of course. Yes. So what I take a look at, the one of the biggest things are going to be mismatches between the style of foot that somebody has and their mechanics and the kind of shoe they wind up getting into. And so there's nothing like being able to mismatch the way that your foot wants to move, and then a shoe that's going to either work completely and pushing it in the same direction. So for instance, if you're a supinator, where your foot rolls to the outside, and then you get into an anti-pronation shoe, which a lot of people are—there's actually been research to show that runners are poor judges of their own foot type.  Lisa: Right. Dr Colin: And if they get into that kind of footwear that makes them into more of a supinator. I can't tell you how many lateral column foot pain problems we see and perennial overuse problems and things like that. So simply mismatching your footwear to what your foot is doing can be one of them.  Lisa: Okay. Getting on and off the shelf is not, and diagnosing yourself is probably not a good idea if you're a serious runner who wants to do some serious racing. Dr Colin: Well, maybe it's a good idea to run your findings by someone else who can take an objective third-party look at you. And so some people think, ‘Oh, my foot is so flat, I need to get into this kind of footwear'. And that might not always be the case when it comes down to it. So the footwear component of it is so big. Making sure that it actually fits the way that your foot is designed. So if you have a particularly wide forefoot and a narrower rear foot, looking for things that actually match up with that, so that you're not cramming your toes into a pair of shoes. Lisa: As a run coach, if I can just pipe in there that has been one of the biggest mistakes that I've seen so many athletes buy. They go into a shoe shop that does foot analysis, and they proceed them on a treadmill and so on. So they may have the right type of shoe, but they're after buying the shoe in a cold state. So i.e., they've just walked into a shop, they haven't been on their feet all day, they haven't been running for 30K's, their feet are not swollen.  And then they go and if they do marathons, or especially ultramarathons, their feet are swelling. And especially I've seen this in women where we tend to swell tissues in my opinion, not scientifically-backed or anything but my observation is that women's feet swell more than men. And the size of the shoe is then way too small, especially in the toe box. And this often leads to pain on the top of the foot and the cutting off of circulation there. And I've seen problems with the shins and so on.  Have you—is it a thing? Have you seen this sort of a trend as well, where they're going into the shop, and it's fitting in the shop on the day that they buy it, but when they're long-distance runners, that becomes a problem, especially when they're running under heat? Dr Colin: 100%. Yes, I mean, fatigue is one of those things that wrecks everything. But at the end of the day, when you're not fatigued, and you're ready to take a pair of shoes, and you're trying it on, you don't know how the inside of your ankle is gonna rub against that shoe until you've spent 30, 40, 50k in it to really understand what's happening there. So the idea that something is going to ‘break in’, in quotation marks is something that I like to try to shy away from as much as I possibly can.  The biggest issue that we see from most people is they just fit them incorrectly, right? They fit them too short. And so if things do swell, if there's movement or any of that stuff, you're going to get problems along with the feet, whether it's friction and blisters or black toenails, or what have you. The length of that, and then especially the curve of the toes, makes such a big difference.  And so, a lot of footwear stores these days might not carry the full breadth of width available. And so for instance, New Balance comes in ladies from a 2A to a 2E and everything else in between.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Colin: So it comes in a 2A, and a B, and a D and then a 2E. So when you have to carry four widths of shoes from a size 5 to a size 13...  Lisa: That’s expensive.  Dr Colin: ...including half sizes, that's expensive. And that's only for one colour.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Colin: Right? So when you think about that, you understand why you might not be able to find the full breadth of width in a lot of these things. Because shoe stores will have a hard time selling through and if they can't, they can't make money and stay open. So, but if you're one of those people that are on either end of the spectrum, then you need to find a place that will cater towards those kinds of things and that understand the nuances and the differences within brands. So, I mean I've seen people go up a full size in between different models of shoes within the same brand of a company.  Lisa: Wow.  Dr Colin: So, for instance, the New Balance 880 and the New Balance 840 fit completely different. The sock liner is three times as thick, the width is more, the toe spring is different, the heel drop is different, all of that stuff. And if you don't know how each one of those things interact with someone, then the potential for injury is just greater.  Lisa: Wow. And yes, I can definitely relate to that having had—I've had many different sponsorship agreements over my career. And some of the companies, a couple of them, I had to actually leave because I just could not wear their shoes and they were so different in other ones that I just absolutely loved and were able to stick with. And I've got a very wide foot. And so I have to be in a men’s shoe. But when I was doing desert races in extreme heat in Death Valley and the likes, I had shoes that were two sizes too big for me.  Dr Colin: Wow. Lisa: So, that's what I worked out was the sweet spot. So at that point, I wouldn't get the blisters and I wouldn't get the black toenails, and I wouldn't get the foot just swelling so much that it's boosting out the sides of the shoes and putting pressure on top of the foot and causing—and I've had it all awful shin problems by having that circulation cut off at the top of the foot.  I remember a race I did in Germany 338 kilometres in five days. So, we're doing 70 kilometres a day. And after day one, my shoes were just way too tight. And by then the damage was done. And an old-timer, who was in the race, said to me, ‘Hey, you need to cut your socks and open your shoes right up'. And that was a piece of advice that I carried with me being from the norm because, and I ended up doing that very often. So even something like a pair of socks that is too tight around the ankle can cause shin problems. I mean, I've experienced that firsthand, and on the top of the funnel as well. So it really makes a heck of a difference, isn't it? Dr Colin: Oh, it's so does and you know, when you're looking at the trail shoes and things like that, the choices become even more frustrating.  Lisa: Yes, yes, yes. Yes, let’s talk trail because what trail—we weren't as humans, like, we didn't evolve to run on concrete and pads. So what's your take on how bad is it to be running on roads and concrete versus the natural terrain of a trail so to speak? Dr Colin: Well, I mean, certainly the natural trait of a trail is going to be easier for you to run on versus concrete and asphalts and those types of things. And when we looked at the literature, and some of the research said that it's—there's been a lot of fun running research that's come out in the last 15 years. But a lot of our initial contact strategies, so whether you stride on your heel, your midfoot or your forefoot, a lot of it has to do with mitigating the force of that initial contact. And so if you're running on an incredibly hard surface, you might adapt to changing your initial contact to be able to mitigate those loads of that initial load.  Whereas when you have a softer, spongier service to do on, you have a bit more leeway to be able to stride in a different pattern. And so for people who are rehabbing from injuries, yes, getting into something that's a little bit spongier is certainly going to be more forgiving. Now, you can take that all the way to running on the beach, and that causing some problems as well just from the increased biomechanics that that causes too. So to get back to my point where moderation.  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: There's a time to spend time in the sand, and there's a time to spend time in the trail, and there's time to get on the road. Lisa: And this trend it transition times, like when the barefoot craze hurt when my friend Chris McDougall’s book came out Born to Run and it sort of revolutionised everybody's thinking was like, ‘We gotta go barefoot because Barefoot Ted was doing it’. And we saw a lot of injuries come out of that. And no, no, no detriment on the book. It was a fantastic book. But people just went too fast, too far too fast. And we really need a transition time if we wanting to go barefoot. Would you agree with that? Dr Colin: Oh, it's not a matter of me agreeing with it, that that's just a matter of scientific fact.  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: I mean, if you want to go from—which so I do agree with it. To that end, yes. There's nothing that's going to increase your risk of getting hurt more than taking off your footwear and going for a barefoot run. If you're used to wearing a maximalist style of shoe, taking it off going barefoot for 21K, you'll be lucky if you don't come back with a stress fracture. And certainly, my practice has been a mirror of that, right? I mean, at the end of the day, I see injured runners all day every day. That's what I do.  So, I like to joke that the greatest predictor of running injuries is running. But to that end, if you want to make these changes, I think they're great for people. And I think that they're able to make these changes in a proper informed way. And so even looking to what some of the scientific literature says they talk about a transition shoe specifically, right? If you're going to go from a regular 10 or 12 mil heel drop shoe to 4, 0, having a 6 to 8 mil transition shoe wouldn't be a bad idea.  There's one company that will remain nameless that when they changed all their heel heights from 12 mil to 8 mil, and no one really understood what that meant. I can't tell you the number of Achilles problems and things that came into the clinic two years after that.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Colin: Because making even that 4-millimetre change in someone who puts in 60 to 80 kilometres a week, and they're used to loading their tissues in a particular way when you all of a sudden change that with up to three times your bodyweight up to 10,000 steps, that's a huge change for your body all of a sudden. Lisa: Wow, that is insane. Just from a very small change. And look we all—lots of people just swap different shoes ‘Oh try those ones, or this time, I'll buy those’.  Dr Colin: Yes, exactly. Lisa: And so is it—and this is the other thing, brands keep changing. Dr Colin: Yes, every season. Lisa: ‘Ugh, damn. It's something new, it was perfect. And now it's gone again, I can't get it’.  Dr Colin: Yes. Lisa: So by a couple of pieces, when you do get something that's right.  Dr Colin: 100%. But even that, don't let them sit on the shelves for more than two years. Lisa: Oh, okay. Why is it? Do they degrade after that you sort of leave them?  Dr Colin: Actually the materials get stiff, the longer you leave them there. And so, that pair that felt really cushy a couple years ago, they let them sit for a couple of years, they're going to be harder...  Lisa: Oh, gosh. Dr Colin: ...when you take them out of the box.  Lisa: Oh, okay.  Dr Colin: So you can't just let them sit for years on the shelf. Lisa: And onto that note. How many kilometres? Like, how often should you be changing? I've always said between six and 800 kilometres max, what's your take on that? Is there a new science around that? Dr Colin: Science is interesting when it comes to that. I mean, there isn't a lot of actual hard science on that. The soft science of it is to look at the bottoms of your shoes and see. If you're a heavier person, at your initial contact, and I don't mean heavy, like actually just a larger BMI. But some people, my wife is a light woman but she sounds like she's going to come through the floor, two floors down when she walks. And so she'll wear out the outsole of a shoe much faster than somebody who strikes the ground a little bit lighter. And so if you look at the bottoms of your footwear and let's say you're only 400K into a pair of shoes, but there's an angle now where the lugs are totally sheared off one side, that shoe was now forcing you to walk that way. And it's not helping your biomechanics at all.  And so yes, I think as it—as a general rule, 6 to 800 kilometres is okay. But if you're not, if you're training on consecutive days, and if you're training in one pair of shoes, you're going to break down the EVA material much faster because that material needs about 36 hours to rebound fully, before it's ready to go again. But if you're training 24 hours, you're going to break down your shoe much faster. Lisa: Wow, that's a good point. I knew that. And I'd forgotten that fact. Thanks for reminding me of that because yes, alternating shoes on different days is something that I used to say, and I’ve forgotten completely about that one. So, that's a really good point. So, having a couple of pairs of shoes on the go, is a really, really good idea. Dr Colin: Yes, 100%. And to that end too we were talking about, with transition shoes, and whatnot, having them even a different heel heights for different types of running would also be great. I mean, so while you're doing a fartlek training, or tempo run, or a long day might be different than what your ratio is, or the all day everyday shoe. And so that little bit of variability, I think, is a really positive thing.  When you get locked into one movement pattern all the time, then your body comes to predict that. And if you can get that little bit of variability where you're lengthening some days, you're shortening some days, you're doing different things, and your body is used to that, then you're going to be more adaptive. But if you lock into that one pattern, it's going to be so much harder to change. Lisa: That seems to be the thing for everything in biology column. It seems to be a push and pull in a variety. You don't want to starve for too long, you don't want to eat too much for too long, you don't want to be too cold or in a thermoneutral zone for too long, you want—the body wants variety change. Not the same diet every day, not the same everything every day, and just by varying things up, we're giving our body a chance to get what it needs, and to have that variation—that push and pull that biology in all levels that I've been looking at seems to be cycling things. Cycling diet, cycling supplements, cycling shoes, cycling, changing in variety keeps the body guessing and keeps it changing, and keeps it so it doesn't go, ‘I've got this. And it's a piece of cake'.  Actually, I thought it just popped in my head. What do you think of Kipchoge shoes? The sub-two-hour marathon, the Nike shoes. Dr Colin: Oh, yes. Yes, I mean, wow, there—this is a fun time to be alive for nerds like myself. So yes, I mean, there's some really cool stuff that Nike’s doing in some of their footwear. And they're—I mean, one of the leaders. But I mean, everyone now is coming out with a carbon plated shoe, and really aggressive rockers, and a lot of this stuff from a performance standpoint. And it'll be interesting to see how it's controlled and how it's covered. And to what lengths can we go to be able to increase the performance of humans? We developed things like oxygen deprivation to be able to increase your red blood cell counts, to be able to increase your performance. Changes in footwear like this are not that dissimilar from that. It's just a question of, how much can we use them? And how does it work with you?  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: Yes, and what's gonna be legal.  Lisa: And at the moment, it is, isn't it? Like it's...  Dr Colin: It is.  Lisa: Yes. And I had a friend, who's a holistic movement coach, I had on the show, actually, a few weeks ago talking about feet as well, the health of feet. And he said, ‘I didn't want to like those Kipchoge shoes', but I— because he's very much into barefoot when possible and developing strength in the feet. He said, ‘But I put’...  Dr Colin: Well, that certainly is the opposite.  Lisa: He said, ‘I have to admit, I run a hell of a lot faster when I'm soaked’. Dr Colin: Sure. Yes. But that comes back to the point of moderation, right? Is that there's a time for that shoe, just like there's a time to be barefoot. And it's using it in the appropriate fashion. Lisa: Wow, that's brilliant. And okay, let's talk about the knock-on effect of how the feet which have and you know this 100 times better than me, there's just a ton of nerves, a ton of bones as most complex structure that we have, the proprioception, and the connection between the brain is just so important that we actually have that neurofeedback from our feet. So, what sort of a fix do—what sort of things can we expect to have happen on a good side from proprioception when we're doing lots of activity? And we're doing lots of different movement types and varieties of training? And how does it help our brain? The brain-foot connection, I think, is what I'm trying to ask you here. Dr Colin: Well, I mean, anything that's going to make you more aware of what your foot’s doing in space is, again, only going to be a positive both from a balance and a performance perspective. It's striking to me that I can see some people perform incredible feats of athleticism, but then can't balance on one foot to do a pistol squat.  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: Do you know what I mean?  Lisa: Yes. Dr Colin: Because they just don't have control over their ankle. And so when people think of their feet, that's one thing. But I mean, the actual foot itself, though, those deep intrinsic layers of muscles are more stabilisers than they are prime movers, right? The prime movers are going to be higher up in the leg, and the tendons of those larger muscles in the leg support the ankle, right? They're the ones that are tibialis posterior, and the perennials and the things that actually wrap around the ankle. So it's a matter of looking at the lower leg holistically, not just the foot itself.  Yes, those little foot muscles are important. But I think oftentimes, some of the higher stuff up is overlooked as well as the actual prime movers and the actual real good stabilizers that way because those things are going to fatigue out relatively fast, and then you're left with the larger muscles to be able to do some of those things. But when you're not paying attention to one of those two, then you're going to get a mismatch in balance and performance. And so it's a matter of being able to look at more. It's about being able to use your abductor hallucis appropriately, being able to use all of those intrinsics to raise up your arch a bit and reduce some strain in your plantar fascia.  I would never go as far as saying you're going to change the structure of your foot by making your foot muscles strong, but certainly, you're going to get a better grip on the ground and you're going to be able to use your feet like feet and not just like a meat slab that hit the ground to be able to get to the next step. Lisa: Yes, is it a bit like if I was to go around with gloves all day, and I wouldn't have the dexterity that I would need to do typing and learn to play an instrument or anything like that. Is that what's happening with our shoes, when we’re in shoes all day, every day, we're just taking away that connection to the brain and the brain's ability to be able to make those subtle adjustments with those little tiny muscles doing their thing? Dr Colin: You can look at it two different ways, right? Because one might say that yes, if you're barefoot and you know you've got skin on the ground, you are going to get a different sensation than if you have sock and then something else between you and the ground. Right? There's just different feedback when it comes to it.  But to say that putting footwear on reduces your proprioception, or your sensation completely, is a bit of a misnomer. Because if you have something that's, let's say, a little bit squishier, and your foot’s moving around a bit more, well, that's also a signal to your brain too in terms of where to fire muscles, and how to fire muscles and using those muscles on top of it. So, I think we can go in both directions. And again, there is a time when it's going to be appropriate. And there's a time when you want to be barefoot and getting that sensory input in just a different fashion to say—because, at the end of the day, I just don't think it's realistic in the society that we live in that we're not going to be out of it completely.  Lisa: We don’t want to come from class, and you know... Dr Colin: And so yes. So it's a matter of figuring out how to do that, in a fashion that's most appropriate, given the circumstances that you find yourself in. Lisa: A bit of a left-field question and a bit of a non-scientific well, oh well, there's probably stuff coming out now. What's your take on having though the connection to Mother Earth and grounding? And that type of thing, and being in the dirt, so to speak, and having the actual contact with the earth? Is there anything to that side of things? Or is it just no scientific data really around that? Dr Colin: There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, at the end of the day, and from a data and a science standpoint, I'm the first one to tell you that I'm not 100% up on that. Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: But I was listening to another podcast. It was Ben Greenfield recently.  Lisa: Yes, I like him. Dr Colin: Who was talking about some of—yes, yes, yes, same—as some of the science around that specifically. And I believe that there might be some science that has come out, I just haven't read it to be able to be up on it to be 100% honest with you. Lisa: Yes. I mean, I've heard various things and even like getting your hands on the dirt and gardening and how much of a good effect that can have on your body and your mind and your mood and things like that. Dr Colin: Yes. Lisa: And I mean, we are in science starting to actually see why is it important to go out and have early morning sunlight and circadian rhythms and all of these sorts of things...  Dr Colin: True, true. Lisa: ...and connection to the ground and the effects of the medicine, and I don't think we're there yet with all the science. But my take is—on that is yes, go out and spend 10 minutes a day with your hands and the dirt and connect with the ground. And if nothing, the being in nature is definitely going to calm you down and make you feel better.  Dr Colin: 100%. Lisa: Yes, so that's already, I think—okay, so just looking at some most common running injuries before we sort of wrap up the call. If we can look at like plantar fasciitis and perhaps Achilles and calf muscle injuries and perhaps knees. It's a picture you will cover in a few minutes, isn't it? If we want, the second podcast, Dr Colin. Dr Colin: Yes. We can do a podcast on each one of those actually. Lisa: Well, actually, I think I will be getting you on because your knowledge is next level. Dr Colin: Thank you. Lisa: So let's talk a little bit about say Achilles.  Dr Colin: Sure. Lisa: It's one of—it's a very common problem.  Dr Colin: It is. Yes, yes, it really, really is. And Achilles is a difficult one. Again, depending on where things are at and what we know, whether it's insertional, or midportion, there are definitely are two different protocols when it comes to it. So, from the physio side whether you do eccentric loading, which is raising up on two feet, lowering down on one or whether you're doing a different kind of strengthening programme that really is sort of the physio side of that end of it, where I tend to come in on that and where I tend to see a lot of Achilles injuries are people who wind up changing the drop of their shoe too quickly. And so they're used to running in something that's either too low or too high and then make it an abrupt sudden change, or they change their running style too quickly.  So, it's very common to see people who go—who are heel strikers who want to try forefoot running for the first time and if they do it improperly when you load the ground with your heel, I mean, yes, we know that if you overstride braking forces and everything else are really bad for you and smashing your heel into the ground might not be ideal for everybody.  But if you're running on your forefoot, you're striking, your initial contact is with your forefoot, then you touch your heel. Then you push off your forefoot again, right? So, one is heel midfoot toe, one is forefoot heel, forefoot. So, to that end, you're going through a much larger cycle of Achilles loading. And so for some people, especially who—if gene, you were talking about genetics earlier, we know that there is a genetic predisposition for some people, or Achilles issues specifically if you're one of those people, then that can certainly be a bad thing if you do it too quickly.  And so to that end, we talked about the very first thing we do is deload the Achilles. So using things like heel shoe, heel lifts, and footwear, to be able to, for a short period of time, take some of that load off the Achilles, allow it to heal and then gradually reloaded it as they've been working with their physio to be able to gain back strength and mobility and everything else. The one thing that I like to look at everybody who comes to my clinic because I think it's so incredibly important, is their ability to move their ankle appropriately because their calf musculature is flexible enough.  Lisa: Yes.  Dr Colin: And I'll get into trouble there because some people say, ‘It's not coming from your calf, it's coming from your hip'. It can be coming from your hip certainly if you have things that are changing your pelvic tilt, and it's lengthening your hamstring, and it's doing that, and then you're getting the effect of change that comes with it, it's a matter of just looking at it to understand where that change is coming from. But any ankle restriction in your range of motion can make you use your Achilles in a different way, the simplest way for your body to compensate for that is to out-toe and pronate more, well, you're going to get a rotational stress on your Achilles, for some people that's just going to be too much combined with the kind of running programme that they're doing. And so one thing to think about for sure. Lisa: Wow, this is like, you're a foot specialist, but you also need to have a really good understanding of the whole anatomy of the body really, don't you? Because you have to be a holistic in your approach because, and then this is one of the issues that I have with the medical world in general, now speaking is that they’re so siloed. If you've got a lung problem, you go to the lung specialist, or the pulmonary, if you've got a heart and then the ear, nose and throat are separate, and yet it's to do with your lungs, like, we need to have a holistic ‘Look At It systems’ in the body or the—not even systems, but the entire body, so everybody has to have it.  Dr Colin: Yes. Lisa: And it's difficult because you have to have a specialised education in feet, you can't be an expert in feet and an expert in hips.  Dr Colin: Yes.  Lisa: But you do need a general education to be able to understand: what the roles of the other therapists or doctors or whatever it is in order to have a good understanding. And I think that holistic approach were possible, into sort of disciplinary communication, is really, really important. Would you agree with it? Dr Colin: Oh, that's the only way that I work is multi-disciplinary. And so if there's one specialist that thinks that they can fix everything, then that usually makes me want to run away screaming. And because there's just isn't enough flexibility in your thinking to understand that, maybe what you're doing won't be enough for somebody. And again, can't tell you the number of people that come in to say, ‘I've seen my ex-specialists who said, there's nothing else that can be done. We get them back running within six weeks'.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Colin: You know what I mean? It's only because we were flexible enough in our thinking to be able to say, ‘Yes, we're gonna change this little thing over here. That might be the thing that's going to get you back to what you want to be doing'. So, it’s so... Lisa: I could go in a rant on that, really. I could go on a rant about the amount of times that people have been told, ‘You can never run again'. I was told I would never run when I broke my back when I was a young lady. And that were wrong, 70,000 kilometres later.  Dr Colin: Yes. Lisa: If I'd lifted up to so-called experts who, with my mother who had a massive brain aneurysm five years ago and who said that initial, ‘You’ll never have any quality of life again’. She's got massive brain damage. They were wrong. I spent five years rehabilitating her, but they were wrong, and she's completely normal again. So, it's not just accepting—what I think is important to realise is the limitations of your knowledge and saying, ‘Hey, I don't know, I'm at the end of my abilities'. You might have to look somewhere else, or outside the square, or try something else to talk, to so and so.  Dr Colin: Yes. Lisa: And that's fine. That's good if we get there but not blanket saying, ‘Well, you can never run again because you've got a knee injury.’ The amount of times, amount of runners who have come on doctors said I should never run again because I've got some slight knee problems, and I was like, ‘Really?’ Dr Colin: Yes, no, I agree. So, a case in point in my own life, I have congenital arthritis. That's so bad. I had my first hip reconstruction at 17.  Lisa: Wow. Dr Colin: That left me with a four-centimetre leg length discrepancy. So I've got some real orthopaedic problems. And was racing mountain bikes at almost the pro-level in Canada in downhill at the time, and wanted to pursue that. And I was told, ‘Never ride a bike again', this kind of stuff. And I'll be doing a half Ironman in Muskoka in July...  Lisa: Wow. I love it.  Dr Colin: ...25 years later.  Lisa: Exactly.  Dr Colin: So, ye

Have you ever heard of Burro Racing? We hadn't either until we read Christopher McDougall's new book, Running with Sherman. In this book Chris shares his story of how he ended up adopting a sick rescue donkey who ended up with the name Sherman, and then training to run a race with him. Reminiscent of Chris' well known book, Born to Run, Running with Sherman is also peppered with interesting facts and side stories about the people he meets. Among other things, we learn why and how humans started bonding with animals, and how this relationship is essential to our wellbeing. We had the pleasure of interviewing Chris, and talking about some of the people that helped him in his journey to get Sherman healthy and ready to run the burro racing World Championships.Thanks to Vintage Books for providing us an advance review copy, and also putting us in contact with the author for the interview. If you would like get a copy of this book, and see a short video about the book, take a look at Chris McDougall's website https://www.chrismcdougall.com/running-with-sherman/ Any feedback or suggestions on this review or any of our other podcast episodes would be greatly welcomed. Leave us a review using your favorite podcast player or contact us on social media.Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/runningbookreviews/Twitter: https://twitter.com/reviews_runningInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/runningbookreviews/Podcast webpage: https://runningbookreviews.buzzsprout.com If you prefer e-mail, you can send us a message at any time to runningbookreviews@gmail.com

In episode 7 of the Kicksology podcast, host Brian Metzler is joined by Chris McDougall, the New York Times best-selling author of "Born to Run." They delve deep into the evolution of running shoes in the 21st century, focusing on the drastically different designs, how and why trends have shifted since the minimalist boom of a decade ago and also the best — and worst — sociological aspects of running and running shoes. They also talk about how we, as humans, consume running shoes and what might be next in running. Metzler is the author of the book, "Kicksology: The Hype, Science, Culture and Cool of Running Shoes" and a long-time runner who has competed in races on the track, roads and trails from 50 meters to 100 miles. In each episode of Kicksology, host Brian Metzler engages shoe designers, entrepreneurs, shoe company executives, retailers, athletes and physical therapists to talk about the evolution of running shoes, new shoe launches, breakthrough technologies, the biomechanics of running and everything else running-shoe related.

In episode 7 of the Kicksology podcast, host Brian Metzler is joined by Chris McDougall, the New York Times best-selling author of "Born to Run." They delve deep into the evolution of running shoes in the 21st century, focusing on the drastically different designs, how and why trends have shifted since the minimalist boom of a decade ago and also the best — and worst — sociological aspects of running and running shoes. They also talk about how we, as humans, consume running shoes and what might be next in running. Metzler is the author of the book, "Kicksology: The Hype, Science, Culture and Cool of Running Shoes" and a long-time runner who has competed in races on the track, roads and trails from 50 meters to 100 miles. In each episode of Kicksology, host Brian Metzler engages shoe designers, entrepreneurs, shoe company executives, retailers, athletes and physical therapists to talk about the evolution of running shoes, new shoe launches, breakthrough technologies, the biomechanics of running and everything else running-shoe related.

Ep 31: Mad About Anger Maria and Liz discuss their anger, the different forms of how anger is expressed, and how they process it. Fan Mail: Alvin writes asking, "who or what were your ladies' inspirations to become comedians?" Googles: (Chris McDougall) What is this weird elbow bubble? (Liz) How long does the retinol purge last? (Maria) What are the benefits of liposomal Vitamin C? Let's Get Personal: If you could live in any city/town where would you live? Topic: Anger SUBSCRIBE + rate and review us! Become a Patron! Get access to episodes before they are released, bonus eps and stickers. https://www.patreon.com/2nondoctors Email us: 2nondoctors@gmail.com Follow us:  Instagram @2nondrs  Twitter/FB @2nondoctors --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/2-non-doctors/support

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This week we sit down with  'Douggs' Chris Mcdougall.Douggs got into rope access back in the mid 2000's to help fund his passion for sky diving and Base jumping.Douggs is now a professional base jumper offering courses through his company Learn to Base Jump LTBJ for people interested in getting into the sport.He also undertakes safety awareness talks for major building companies and other industries, on how to deal with risk.We did have a few technical issues with this recording, but wanted to get it out to you all.Have a listen to how you can use rope access to fund your passion.

In this short episode Levi and I jump into how to be Functionally Fit. What does that mean? It means being able to take care of yourself and others in an emergent or natural disaster situation. You can start small and build your way up. We touch on Chris McDougall's book Natural Born Heroes and how I began to tinker with Parkour and Free-Running. If this sounds Weird, weird means you are on the right track. Come with us as we journey into alternative exercise and health for you and your family. Resources: Natural Born Heroes - Chris McDougall Born to Run - Chris McDougall Natural Movement - Fitness for the Free World Path Movement --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cameron750/support

Comedian, Liz Miele, joins me to discuss: how to feel seen; coping with panic attacks; how to be your own bestfriend and how to be the best version of yourself.BIOLiz Miele, originally from New Jersey, started doing stand-up at 16 in New York City. At 18 she was profiled in The New Yorker Magazine, at 22 she appeared on Comedy Central’s “Live at Gotham.” She recently appeared on Comedy Central’s “This Week at the Comedy Cellar,” NPR’s “Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me,” Hulu’s “Coming To The Stage,” AXS TV’s “Gotham Comedy Live,” and was profiled in the March 2015 issue of Runner’s World. She’s completed several tours with the “Nobodies of Comedy” and Armed Forces Entertainment and performed on a book tour for Chris McDougall, author of “Born to Run.” Her joke “Feminist Sex Positions” went viral both on YouTube and Upworthy.com. She wrote and produced season one of her animated web series “Damaged,” voiced by great comics including, Maz Jobrani, Hari Kondabolu, Ted Alexandro, Dean Edwards, DC Benny, Joe Machi and so many more. She also co-produced and co-starred in 40 episodes of a web series called “Apt C3” with fellow comic, Carmen Lynch and fashion photographer, Chris Vongsawat. Liz recently released her debut comedy album, “Emotionally Exhausting” on iTunes and Amazon.WEBSITE: https://lizmiele.com/VIDEO: BRENE BROWN: https://bit.ly/2XVtPHOBOOK: GIVE AND TAKE: https://amzn.to/2VOqQxTIf you want go from feeling hopeless to hopeful, lonely to connected and like a burden to a blessing, then go to 1-on-1 coaching, go to www.thrivewithleo.com. Let’s get to tomorrow, together. Suicide Prevention Center (Los Angeles)877-727-4747National Suicide Prevention Lifeline800-273-TALK [800-273-8255]1-800-SUICIDE [800-784-2433]Teen Line (Los Angeles)800-852-8336The Trevor Project (LGBTQ Youth Hotline)866-488-7386National Domestic Violence Hotline800-799-SAFE [800-799-7233]Crisis Text LineText "Connect" to 741741 in the USALifeline Chathttps://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/chat/International Suicide Resources: https://www.iasp.info/

Andrew, Adam and Steve zoom off to rural Pennsylvania for a chat with Chris McDougall and his donkey, Sherman. He's well-known as the author of the best-selling Born to Run but little is known about his first book - we get the scoop! Also find out about Mexican sex cults, donkey dongs, shoes and what the Copper Canyons have in common with Invercargill. Also getting a mention is Anna Frost, Jenn Shelton and Caballo Blanco. Unfortunately we lose connection before getting to find out much about running with Donkeys... so no spoilers here. Read the book! https://www.chrismcdougall.com/running-with-sherman/ Also check out Luna Sandals.

To celebrate REI's 82nd anniversary and our Anniversary Sale, we asked some past guests to share their favorite stories about being in the great outdoors. Escape with Sal Masekela, Chris McDougall, Bonnie Tsui and more as they share stories about close encounters with wildlife, trips gone awry and the power of being outside.What is your favorite memory of being in the great outdoors? We want to hear it! Share your story on social media with the tag #REImember. Episodes to listen to:Sal MasekelaChris McDougall, Natural Born HeroesChris McDougall, Running with DonkeysBonnie TsuiChris FaganChris CoteSteve BramucciBrian KeaulanaConnect with guests:Sal MasekelaInstagramChris McDougallWebsiteRunning with ShermanBonnie TsuiWebsiteBen MoonWebsiteBookInstagramChris FaganWebsiteBookChris CotePodcastSteve BramucciWebsite

Dans cet épisode je reçois Jean Philippe Lefief, journaliste, traducteur, auteur et passionné de trail ou même d'ultra-trail. Il s'est fait un nom en traduisant le best-seller "Born to Run" de Chris Mcdougall ainsi que d'autres succès avant de devenir lui-même auteur, se focalisant sur son loisir préféré, le trail.Les Éditions Guérin (maintenant Éditions Paulsen)La Folle Histoire du Trail de Jean-Philippe LefiefJean-Philippe par le de La Folle Histoire du Trail sur France Culture Trail de Jean-Philippe LefiefL'Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc (UTMB)Born to Run de Chris McDougallBlaise Dubois de La Clinique du CoureurWhy We Run de Bernd HeinrichGuillaume Millet et ses travaux à l'UTMBCourir avec les KényansRise of the UltrarunnerJeff BrowningScott JurekEric OrtonConseils lecture de Jean-Philippe:L'axe du loup : De la Sibérie à l'Inde, sur les pas des évadés du Goulag de Sylvain Tesson Leurs enfants après eux de Nicolas Mathieu

In Episode 3, we're going on a journey to learn about my running experience while I was a United States Marine Corps officer, as a member of the All-Marine Running Team, and the time I organized a marathon in Afghanistan! I'll detail how I got into marathoning, a fun race I once did running up the Empire State Building, and why Chris McDougall donated his book Born to Run and Gu Energy Gels donated energy gels to me. I hope you feel more connected and closer to me after listening to this episode. Find out more at www.runningshorts.org --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/runningshortspodcast/message

Just when you thought you’ve heard every type of running story, another one surfaces. New and old categories of running seem to continue to appear, as if running itself is doing everything it can to reach all people. If today’s story doesn’t convince you that running is for everyone, (or for every creature for that matter) I’m not sure what will. As you’ve seen, the competitiveness surrounding running is adapting. There will forever be an individualistic aspect of running, as there is no one that can move your legs except you. And fierce competition will always exist at the top level as elite athletes compete for prize money and lucrative brand contracts.  However, for the general masses, we have seen a huge surge of team spirit, curiosity, and sense of community. Multi-day relay races, obstacle course races, and ultramarathon trail races are a few bucket list items that people like you have been adding to your to-do lists. Now you can add one more: Racing with donkeys. Running with a Donkey With no context, you may be a bit bewildered by the concept of doing a 29-mile race with a burro. But after you listen to Chris McDougall talk about his experience of training and running with Sherman, your feelings will go from indifference to interest to inspiration. Chris, author of the best seller “Born to Run,” somewhat stumbled upon burro racing. When his daughter asked for a donkey for her birthday, he all but ignored the request until he heard of a penned-up donkey that was in dire need of rescue. The family decided to take Sherman home and nurse him back to health. What Chris didn’t realize was that not only did his daughter get a birthday present of a lifetime, he got a lifelong running partner. As part of Sherman’s recovery, he needed to get moving. And just at the same time, Chris had started running longer distances. Their training was a natural progression, which eventually led to Chris and Sherman entering a Colorado pack burro race. Western Pack Burro Association For 72 years, Colorado has hosted the 29-mile pack burro race. Competitors run alongside their donkeys over high elevations and treacherous terrain. Oddly enough, with the distance being just over marathon length, it’s one of the oldest races in the states to allow women to compete, beating out the Boston Marathon by a number of years. One of the most fascinating facts about running with a donkey is the strong relationship between burro and racer that is required to perform well. Recently, two of the best trail runners in America were teamed up with some of the fastest donkeys and an expert animal trainer. They trained for a few weeks prior to the annual event, and were promptly annihilated on race day. Both young girls and old men comfortably beat them. What You Learn from Training with a Donkey After training with Sherman for two years, Chris has learned a lot about human-animal relationships, donkey behavior, and life in general. Even after all this time he still admires those experts who have been racing burros for decades, hoping to glean more information that he can apply to his runs. Donkeys are great and difficult running partners for a few reasons. First, they are more closely related to human pace and endurance than any other animal. They aren’t as quick as a horse for example, but their cooling system allows them to run long-distances like humans. Second, donkeys are risk-averse and cautious. Instead of having a fight-or-flight mode, donkey’s freeze when they approach something they are unsure of. This makes them wonderful partners around dangerous mountain paths, but horrible ones when they reach a small puddle on a dirt road. Until they feel sure, they will stay put. Third, donkeys don’t like to follow. Parring this with their freeze tendencies can create quite an issue.  Finally, donkeys have unique personalities. Some are competitive, some are complacent, and all of them like to nibble on various pieces of grass. Training your donkey to race is a lot of more problem-solving than just finding time in the day to do your training and putting in the hours. Slow Down The biggest lesson Chris has learned from running with Sherman? To slow down. When it takes over two hours to do a ten-mile run because your 200-lb buddy suddenly became interested in a small flock of birds, you have to be interested in them too.  Slow down, and enjoy the journey.   Resources: Chris’s Website Pack Burro Racing Running with Sherman Born to Run Natural Born Heroes     Thank you to my wonderful sponsors BodyHealth, Athletic Greens, and Janji for sponsoring this episode of the Running for Real Podcast. Now I am back to training, guess what was the first thing I did to start making sure I recover quicker (as coming back to fitness really beats your body up!), yep, you guessed it, BodyHealth Perfect Amino! Get 10% off at Bodyhealth.com using coupon code TINA10 Athletic Greens is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients. Just to help my immune system be stronger and greater! It is so simple to do and it taste good as well. Now you can get a free travel pack with 20 servings with your first purchase, Visit here to learn more!   JANJI is an official sponsor of the Running 4 Real podcast, I am so excited about this! They visit designers in countries all around the world to help with their upcoming clothing lines and any profit they make off of that design 5% goes right back to that country to supply for their clean water supply. The materials they use are recycled which I LOVE. Go here and use code TINAMUIR for 10% off and if you want to know my favorites click here.   Thanks for Listening! I hope you enjoyed today's episode. To share your thoughts: Leave a note in the comment section below. Join the Running for Real Facebook Group and share your thoughts on the episode (or future guests you would like to hear from) Share this show on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or Pinterest. To help out the show: Leave an honest review on iTunes. Your ratings and reviews will really help me climb up the iTunes rankings and I promise, I read every single one. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe, you can find out here. Thank you to Chris, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Chris McDougall is the author of the wildly popular book “Born to Run.” He most recently released the book “Running with Sherman” and is making the book tour rounds. (I... The post Episode 212: Chris McDougall appeared first on Lindsey Hein.

Everyone knows Lisa loves Ultramarathon running and with a career in extreme sports spanning 25 years she's knows a thing or two about the good side and the not so good side to the sport and shares in this candid podcast all the pros, the benefits to mind and body but also the much less talked about downsides and risks so you can mitigate those and have fun on the trails, mountains, roads and deserts.   Ultramarathon running Pros & Cons Timestamp:   Pros  0:44 Telemers, longevity, flow 8:00 The mental side of ultramarathon 12:50 Ancestral aspect 14:25 Average age is high 16:02 why women excel in ultra running 17:15 Teaches us to face fear & anxiety 18:20 Community   Cons 19:32 can be dangerous & Time-consuming 22:00 body damage  23:30 Burnout  24:30 Stress 27:11 Injuries 29:13 burning muscle mass 31:15 lung situation   We would like to thank our sponsors:   Running Hot - By Lisa Tamati & Neil Wagstaff If you want to run faster, longer and be stronger without burnout and injuries then check out and TRY our Running Club for FREE on a 7 day FREE TRIAL Complete holistic running programmes for distances from 5km to ultramarathon and for beginners to advanced runners.   All include Run training sessions, mobility workouts daily, strength workouts specific for runners, nutrition guidance and mindset help Plus injury prevention series, foundational plans, running drill series and a huge library of videos, articles, podcasts, clean eating recipes and more.   www.runninghotcoaching.com/info and don't forget to subscribe to our youtube channel at Lisa's Youtube channel  www.yotube.com/user/lisatamat and come visit us on our facebook group   www.facebook.com/groups/lisatamati Epigenetics Testing Program by Lisa Tamati & Neil Wagstaff. Wouldn’t it be great if your body came with a user manual? Which foods should you eat, and which ones should you avoid? When, and how often should you be eating? What type of exercise does your body respond best to, and when is it best to exercise? These are just some of the questions you’ll uncover the answers to in the Epigenetics Testing Program along with many others. There’s a good reason why epigenetics is being hailed as the “future of personalised health”, as it unlocks the user manual you’ll wish you’d been born with! No more guess work. The program, developed by an international team of independent doctors, researchers, and technology programmers for over 15 years, uses a powerful epigenetics analysis platform informed by 100% evidenced-based medical research. The platform uses over 500 algorithms and 10,000 data points per user, to analyse body measurement and lifestyle stress data, that can all be captured from the comfort of your own home Find out more about our  Epigenetics Program and how it can change your life and help you reach optimal health, happiness and potential at: https://runninghotcoaching.com/epigenetics You can find all our programs, courses, live seminars and more at www.lisatamati.com    Transcript of the Podcast:   Speaker 1: (00:00) Welcome to pushing the limits, the show that helps you reach your full potential with your host, Lisa tamati, brought to you by Lisatamati.com Speaker 2: (01:03) But generally speaking, you're going to be better. You're going to have better of cardiovascular health who are going to have no a BMI usually. So you would lose weight through doing distance running. It's also good for your, we have a lower incidence of stroke. We have a lower incidence of heart disease. We have a lower incidence. Even off came some when we flew out to marathons regularly. It slows down the aging process to some degree. In fact, one of the interesting statistics that came up and one of the studies that are made was that your telling me is I lengthened by on average and leaving the scene. Now you might be thinking, what the hell it's telling me is that I did a whole podcast on telling me is I've got a show called pushing the limits. I'll give you a small plug for that. Speaker 2: (01:57) And I had a world's leading experience on anti aging on podcasts who also happens to be an ultra marathon runner. That's how I know him Dr Bill Andrews and he is an expert in Telomeres which are the  little caps at the end of your DNA. And as they replicate and the cells replicate themselves throughout life, these get shorter and shorter and shorter. And this is what dictates the length of our lives basically. And so ultra marathon runners t on average have 11% longer telomeres, which equates to around 16 years of lifespan on average.  That's a massive, massive difference and a good reason to be doing ultra marathon running. Okay. So you're going to have long been telling me is going to have good cardiovascular health, you're going to have a lower incidence of stroke, lower incidents of cancer. And these are all based on studies. Speaker 2: (02:53) I won't cite all the studies here cause it would just be boring. But if you want to go out and do the research, you can find these studies as well. Now one of the other pros, just besides that, well, you also got to have the advantage of mental, more mental strength. So there's a couple of aspects. Look at this. From a running perspective, many, many ultra marathon Manas would tell you that ultra marathon running has saved them from depression, from mental health issues. That helps them overcome a whole lot of, certainly was a lifesaver for me. I dealt with depression for many, many years and ultra marathon running really pulled me out of it. Now why doesn't do that? Well, number one, being outside in nature hesitancy the spirits, it's good for the soul. It's helps you. We actually either, I think it's about an NC three that we were out in nature a whole lot boards. Speaker 2: (03:57) So when you're out doing ultra marathons and training for marathons who are naturally outside, you're getting your sunshine, vitamin D, you're giving up your endorphins as well the net whole times, and they're actually helping make the actually feel beat up. So for mental health, I think ultra marathon running is a really, really one of the, one of the big pros of that and helps us feel better physically and mentally and helps the, our hormones and so on. Now I will go over in the constitution, how will you do too much in the negative effects it can have on that. But when I'm doing all the parts, all right, it can also help you get into a flow state. So I read a really good book called stealing fire and it was all about how do you get yourself in the flow state, in your flow state and state. Speaker 2: (04:49) Stay with me. Occasionally get into when you're in a really creative space or when things are really rolling really well. And in the running world, this some site is called the violence tie. When you're actually floating here, we've gone through all the Hubstaff in a spice where it's just absolutely amazing, freezing along and just loving life. It's feeling powerful and strong and like one forever. Now that is low state and you can get into flow state when you're being creative assets, making jewelry. Like I do that also in money and this is a very hot and state. We you know, a lot of advances are highly recommend reading that book, stealing fire. We want to know a little bit about that and the runner's high all of that sort of good stuff. So you're gonna also have on average a lower BMI. You going to bet on your body. Speaker 2: (05:41) And this is a very good thing. I'll go into the negative sides, how it things muscle a little bit later and slowing down the aging that the telling me is, it also helps you have stronger bones. So contrary to popular belief, a lot of people come and to me, but you're going to Ricky joints running and I'm like, no, you're not going to join running. And lease you have a very, very poor running style. Yes, you could be doing some damage and great mostly. And if you've got, you know, something physically wrong, let's say we'll pose you or one foot longer than the other or those sorts of things, that's for the general average person. You're not going to Ricky points running ultra marathons. Ultra marathons are also usually done in a very sedate pace, not sprinting because for so long and so there's least impact. Speaker 2: (06:33) So high impact sports where you're changing direction and doing that sort of thing usually ends up with more Dwayne and breeds. Then ultra marathon moneymoon actually was going along nice and slowly. Now when you are doing the short chaps or the sports like netball or tennis for you ask, stop and start, you actually create stronger bones then runs through runners. If you take a cross section of the bones and nations for example, our action strong work and doing those spots that pop to things that for things like your knees, your hips, you're not actually going to do a heck of a lot of chem. It's some Jasper anything along in a very nice today pace. And so as an ultra marathon man and that if you're doing sprints in your or they'd run out and that can be a little bit different because you're putting a lot more load through the body, but generally you're going to have stronger bones. Speaker 2: (07:27) So the old method that you're going to wear your joints out and all that sort of thing is in my opinion, a myth. And I'll front I of a 70,000 case and sit by my knees and my, my hips and everything is good, touch wood. And basically my, my take on that is that no life's bad yet and you've been we're out or rushed out. So the Muslim we'd sell know you're gonna do it. And there are ways and what we do at running hot coaching is to try to spring from your body so that you don't have as much fear and tear so that you're running correctly, that you're having good planning technique and all of those sorts of parts because as well, now going back to the whole meeting side of it, ultra marathon runners tend to be very focused, very high achieving people, people with a type a personalities and sit themselves. Speaker 2: (08:15) Big goals. Now I don't know what comes first, the chicken or the belts marathon or having this type of thing, senility, but on average the marathon is a very focused, a high achieving people so that the tops, even one on one floor because they're going to be hitting job done. We're very good at gold seating. And we're very good at overcoming obstacles now, ultra marathon running. And to know it takes a long time. It takes massive amount of discipline. It requires sacrifice. It requires that you can push through pain, never sometimes you boredom, you have to go through all and you have to understand the whole risk of what I'm doing for. So there are lot of skills that you learn along the way as an ultra marathon runner that can really benefit every other aspect of your life. In fact, this is what my, my, what my bread and butter is, is going in talking to corporates and doing motivational speaking and talking about the benefits that you get when we push outside the comfort zone. Speaker 2: (09:23) You bring something like ultramarathons and it's not just there, but and how you can apply those lessons into dining life. Now if any of you know me know my story with my mum and if I had been an ultra marathon runner, I don't think I would have had, I know I wouldn't have had the skills to be able to fight through all the obstacles that we faced. The fear and bringing her back to full health again. And so I'm a real proponent on the power of all of those things that you learned while pushing the limits that will help you in life. And on that note, I've got mum's book, I've just finished writing mum's book. It's now at formatting stage and it will be being released in March, 2020. The book was called relentless and it's telling the story of what I did and how I want my mum back from being in the, not much over a vegetative state to being full back into life fully and the payment, driver's license, everything and the journey that we need bond, there's a lot of mindset stuff with a lot of personal development. Speaker 2: (10:29) There's a lot of toughness. It's always have lots of stories from the running because that sort of illustrates a lot of these points. So from a legal point of view, the students that you will learn and you're pushing the stuff that they wrote from their phones, I've gone to benefit for everything in your life, whether it's or you know, corporate job or whether it's new studying for something or you're just your editor or your business, you'll be able to push through barriers and keep going. You learn persistence, you learn discipline, you learn to overcome obstacles. You learn to think outside the square. You learned to deal with fear and keep moving anyway. You learn to work for massive fatigue and pain and keep going and just doing so many great things. And that fire, he liked that of going for an ultra marathon who stained you in really good state for everything in life. Speaker 2: (11:22) Now, on average, a ultra marathon runners also have less sick ties. So from an employer's perspective, these are the guys you want to be blind because they're going to have nice time off, especially as I get older this time off for my medical problems. And they States [inaudible] statistical fact from studies that have been done. So another good breeze. Now another one is confidence. The men, a confidence that you're going to get when you push yourself and you overcome obstacles to achieve an ultramarathon, then who are going to have a lot more confidence or anything that you're going to be facing a lot now doing ultra-marathons typically they are in places that are beautiful, amazing off the beaten track. I mean, I've had the privilege of running now raising prices around the world. I've done a 2000 cases to hire of the Moroccans to Howard's tossed the museum, the Arabian visit, the Olympian [inaudible], Jordan Gobi desert, fifth Valley and USA different paths in the Outback of Australia, the Indian Himalayas, hip laced Himalayas, you know, and build on the forest. Speaker 2: (12:31) So you know, these, these races typically run in some pretty out the special places where you get to experience different cultures and experience itself in these different functions, in a different environment and pushing your limits. So stuff that you learned there is also super, super valuable from an institutional point of view. I truly believe that we are born to run this. My good friend Chris McDougall's book born to onesies. We are born around this. This is what our ancestors have done throughout millennia is moved. Well, we'll run long distances every single day. And that's what keeps us healthy and strong. And we are very good at that. We back in the caveman days, we were doing consistent hunting when we would at run out pray. So this has a long, long history. It's not just Monday mean woman out the influence of marathons. This has history to it. Speaker 2: (13:32) Since what we've done. In fact, I've tried to get off the ground a TV series called run the planet. A friend of mine and we tried it. We ended up doing islet for the series and the Outback of Australia reenacting an Aboriginal median of the prime. And that was just one of the stories that we uncovered. We uncovered all these phones all around the world, different tribes that were proof that as humans, we've always done this long visit stuff. I mean, if you've read, born to run, if you haven't must go on, we bet book as well. That's more about the Tarahumara and the insulin non for their insurance Bates. So this really goes back to now and since from way of being and I think it's, you know, part of the reason why we, we do so well in the sport now the other exists, you don't have to be 20 years old, be successful in this sport. Speaker 2: (14:35) You don't, your life isn't over. It's 25. In fact, an ultra marathon running the average age is about 42 for ultra marathon manners. The average age of the first time ultrarunners is 30 sect. Your endurance apparently doesn't pick around, 48 and from there on it's only a very slow decline. So a 19 year old and a 64 year old are currently on the same Naval and there's lots of sets that I've come up with. These are from different studies, as I said. So it's the sort of thing Excel at later on life. And you also will find that the more experience that you have, the baby you will become. So it's not just about things, but physically it's very much about having experienced by some different situations and different difficulties from having the ability to overcome those affect, make seeds. Speaker 2: (15:34) So age doesn't have to be a barrier in ultra marathon money, which it is for most sports. Let's be honest. You can't be a professional rugby player at the age of the new can't, you know, I don't know the top of your game and netball, you know, later on in life you have to have done it early days. Certainly the things that gymnastics and so on, they'd say it's young person's fault, but this is really a sport. The people that sell in experience counts. Another great thing I think is that woman did particularly well and ultra marathon running because it's statistically Minnesota better than us over the other, the, you know, distances. But the longer the distance that, the closer that gets. And certainly in some of the biggest vices in the world, a woman has been on the top of the podium. Many fonts. Speaker 2: (16:24) So there's not that much difference. The plane, the sixes as there is most sports, Europe comes down to muscle, out of spring or all out speed because ultra marathoning is really more about what's up here and how come we have a, it's women. We have a I've read some studies that we have a beta ability to bring, set then advised on average. I don't know what the latest studies are on that, but it does seem in my experience of running all around the world and seeing Hogan and muse license we often would close to the top if not at the top. And I'm diff Valley for a couple of times, a woman's field top of the podium. And so it's quite exciting. Sort of labels out the the differences in the sixes and the different sense. And it also teaches you the overcome fears. Speaker 2: (17:20) I think this is one of the biggest advances in say we have fear every day in our lives and move by some difficult situations and huge amount of change and transformation that we're going through as a society. And learning to deal with Thea and function anyway isn't really good thing. And you do have fears when are doing out cause suspicion. If you're doing in bang like item fuck, I've done a lot of them. Or if you're running through the night in the middle of the mountain or somewhere on your own, same theory. You know, so you learn to function with that. It can also lower your anxiety if you're out wounding up cortisol and well it's not completely true. Do smell cortisol when you're actually training, but on average it no is more anxiety because we'd go outside and stuff. Okay. Speaker 2: (18:15) So those are all of the pros that I've come up with for ultra marathon money and four, there's a whole lot more. Another great thing is that you belong to a pretty expensive corporate people. You know, it's only like 0.0 is there. 0.1% of the population or whatever it is that actually does ultramarathons and certainly in the longer ultra-marathons. So you know, for the paddle and the social aspect because I'm so not to be underestimated, typically in not marathoning. It's not just about the winners and it's not just about winning, it's about overcoming the self and overcoming the obstacles and human nature. It's not all for most of us, it's not about being at the top of the podium. And that's not the number one thing that people cite when they were made set out to do marathon. And it isn't even worth that time. Speaker 2: (19:08) It's not like marathon running where it's all about what's fun to do, doing on the three hours, one to four hours or whatever you about Aaron. It's all very, you know, a measuring contest. It's not so much the same as we've certainly in trial visits. It's far more about finding out what you're made of in becoming stronger doing it. So it meets only out to some of the cons of it. This is bad. This is all running out marathons or the dangers of funny marathons. Socially, some of these are run very dangerous places. Like I said I had some pretty scary times and some of those pieces between the Sahara and Egypt and Niger, Jordan and places that were, you know, pretty dodgy. Not only from a nature to speak of but also from the people and going from bull zones and stuff like that. Speaker 2: (20:03) Okay. So whoever don't know phone, but we do put ourselves in dangerous situations. Sometimes we might be running for mountains in the middle of the night and what the alone. So there is an element of danger a lot on it as a, you know, the draw card of this, but it is possible just bonded. The next thing for disadvantages on say would be like sacrificing hell of a lot of time in the, in your life to do an ultra marathon. Even though like we money coaching and coaching can speak of and not high mileage poachers. So we try to keep the time commitment within reason to prepare for marathons. And we probably have spring training and Emma ability training and the nutrition and the mindset is part of all that echoed. However, it's still a relatively based in this sort of to prepare well for an ultra marathon. Speaker 2: (21:05) In this means sacrificing time with your loved ones, your children, your partner, your business, your life. You know, it goes on bold when you're appearing for something scary rights. And that followed back over my life. I probably asked a lot of of my, you know, my husband or my, my parents certainly and my friends to, you know, put up with the fact that I'm not really available for them cause I'm off funding some ridiculous thing every day. So there is a real big sacrifice and that's something that, you know, the last couple of years I couldn't do, I had to reborrow my life with mum being so ill and with business and you know, you can't always commit to that level of dedication that doesn't require it. Makes it difficult okay. So what are some of the other stuff right from a, from a health speak though? Speaker 2: (22:01) I'll tell you some of the, the, the health issues that I've come across. And these may or may not affect you. And I've done some pretty extreme things to my body. So, you know, take this with a grain of salt doing it. Okay. You're not going to have a lot of dates, but you can get problems with your kidneys. So rhabdomyolysis is a very common problem among salt marathon one. So this is where your body starts to break down. It's muscle proteins and if the crystals get pumped up into your kidneys, and this can cause kidney damage. Now this is usually temporary but rhabdomyolysis and something that needs to type seriously with new set to say like pockets and fluid and you're getting a little Tommy, you would normally wouldn't. And you're racing in. It could be that your kidneys are having a hard time keeping up with the breakdown of the muscles that's happening. Speaker 2: (22:58) So kidney damage is a, is a, it's a real problem, especially if you're also running dehydrated and they looked spray me hot climates. That's what I specialized in. And I had read the Milo's this dozens of times in my life and I have kidney problems. One of the reasons why I'm not doing anything don't really want to end up on dialysis and they're not near that yet. But if I want to have longevity, the net is something that has made two problems. Another problem that I ran into is burnout and adrenal exhaustion. So I have made the trouble with my HPA access to hyper cell on that three adrenal exes. My cortisol levels are got out from the amount of stress that I've put my body and my mind through the life. So not just ultra running, but we've had a big play crushing the absolute boundaries of time. Speaker 2: (24:00) And this is had other knock on effects for my house that can't hundred percent par light, but I believe it's contributed to a lot of the problems that I've got. So burnout is a real problem. Cortisol As a problem. Cortisol cortisol Titans, cortisol graph of, of what your cortisol is doing during the day. We can do this for we could save it. That's not good. And cortisol is the responsible for so many things in their life and their body. So we need our bodies on the streets for example. They, we are shutting down our immune system. We're not shutting it down, but we have definitely hindering our immune system. We are hindering out by distance systems so we can end up with just the problems and we could get sick and we're opening the door to lots of problems and possible diseases cause we are on the streets and since threes we either it comes in the form of maintenance freeze or from running marathons or from a emotional stress, from relationships and so on. Speaker 2: (25:10) All of these things, you have a stress bucket and if you're putting too much into it and ultra marathon training, aid running is a big part of that story slowed. So if you have a very bad express job and would have very hot and streets relationship and children and men, you've gone from marathon money on top of that, you can overload your bucket and you can in that major trap. Trouble. Health wise you can stress is the number one killer in the world. Okay, so in something that needs to be taken into consideration, exercise is a form of stress for your body. It's a form of stress that when we are not overloaded with other thoughts and sprays that we say good for us and causes us to adapt and change to get stronger. However, if you are overdoing it over, over committing more resources to the training thing, stress can be very, very big for meaningful to every health system in your body, from your hormones, for your adrenalin's, your cortisol, straighten your heart through United that it your budgets and system, your immune system. Speaker 2: (26:18) As I say, all of these affect us can be effective and that's one of the reasons why running hot coat thing, we had something called a wellness cheek, which is, it's a simple little spreadsheet that we liked to get our athletes to fill out every day to see where they're sitting. On a span of one to 10, how would your sleep, how was your experience with those? How were your injuries? And we have a homeless. The things that they go through and if they very low scores, they will pull them back on the train and if they have very high scores in, they can go for it. You can also do this with heart rate variability. If you've got a access to a monitors that will check your heart rate, your ability and we'll give you sort of similar feedback. So whether you use the analog or about thinking outage that doesn't something that we need to keep an eye on. Speaker 2: (27:06) The total stress. So don't get into overtraining. I mean, of course another negative effect is possible injuries, whether that's, you know, breaking language or fell over or twisting your ankle or hitting overused injuries. We'd have problems with amazement, MEPS in the back or these things. And a lot of this chain be mitigated, can't be rolled out obviously, but can be mitigated like doing run specific spring training and training. And that's what we're really big on the spring training for Latinas. It's not cross training, it is running frame. It's a part of running frame. Need to be doing a strength boot that needs strong hips, needs, strong core, we need strong alphabet needs, strong quads. And all of these things have a, a real one to one correlation with how many injuries you will face over your lifetime. So strength training is a really important aspect for that end, so as mobility, but it's strictly a straight thing. Speaker 2: (28:02) Your [inaudible] yoga, your myofacial release message, find Molly or those things don't complete those aspects. We were really big on those and making sure that you're doing those and don't run into these injury problems. And things like yoga can really calm the body down and get you into a parasympathetic state. So this means that you actually lowering the splits, lowering for the sole release and best for really benefit you as well. So it's about balancing them out. So meditation, deep breathing exercises, yoga or these things help balance out the running training. So running planning is a sympathetic activity, meaning it's texting the sympathetic nervous system. It's not parasympathetic, it's not meditation, it's not slowing income down. It's doing the opposite. So sometimes the need to balance that out with, with doing that mobility with doing things like meditation and the breathing and just lowering what's gained those crystals. Speaker 2: (29:11) And so overall street school one of the things that ultra marathon money or negative part of it is that it's a catabolic activity by nature, which means it is eating your muscles slowly and doing an ultra, a really long rope trust. They have the motto blot be earning a hell of a lot of Massimo's which is bad for your kidneys but also bad for your musculoskeletal system. And so we need to counteract that with spring training so that you don't end up losing muscle mass and see a lot of older runners especially who look like, you know, beef jerky for the one that I've been away. Very, very thin, very low B in mind, but also very low muscle nays and we don't, it is not good. It is better from a cardiovascular point of view and a B in my point of view. Speaker 2: (30:06) And it's not great from a muscle. We need muscles. We need strength. And we made these aspects to, to keep them strong. We don't want bowl, but we do want strong, you know, strong and muscles that can help us stay up white when we're running on times that helps out this out some of the other sorts of things. So that's, that's that side of it. The catabolic problems. You can also have some basic things happen to like problems with your eyes and you're always outside running and Bri wouldn't be fine. That's, I'm seeing quite a few iron injuries. Sleep deprivation and you're running through days doing outros and even in the training they sleep, trying to fit into your life plus training. So these are negative things. Sleep is just absolutely virtual. Obviously when you're doing an ultra marathon, you in the middle of a under model or a 200 K or what even moved on to have sleep deprivation and you're gonna be completely Gaga. Speaker 2: (31:07) But if in daily life at least can try and given an adequate amount of our slate. Another thing that we have more of is, is math on manners is upper respiratory ailments. So we are more like asthma, we're more likely to have exercise and boots. Asthma, we're likely to have hay fever and allergies cause we're using our lives a lot. We're breathing hard out and so we need to be aware of those and we're not the thing that it's since I've begged for, and I have this on advice from my midwife that it can be quite bad for the pelvic floor for women. And I don't know all the details of that, but we can have problems. So running super long distance, not great for the public form. We need to camp right fit once, gave with some strength exercises typically during outfits and also quite often face things like hitting the wall and nausea and vomiting and distant tree. Speaker 2: (32:09) It's a very glamorous sport. This one. And those are things that people typically passed pretty quickly, but very unpleasant in the moment. And Kim, we ruin your eyes. It's that bad. So I hope I've covered a lot of ground today. Talk flat stick that all the pros and the cons. And I've got two pages here that I've written notes of and I'll tell you what is twice as many pros as there is cons. So just remember that there is some, there, there is some things that you need to be aware of and mitigate. There's also massive amounts of things that are really, really beneficial. So if you've liked this a little sessions today, please give us Amin. I've left a five star rating on iTunes. These little things really help content producers like me, get our word out and get known for what, what you're teaching. Speaker 2: (33:03) So all of that help us. Really, really appreciate it guys. So thanks for listening today. If you've brought any questions, please reach out to me. I'd love to talk to you about your running that, your health fitness about hormones. We do a whole lot of health pissing at running hot potions and we're not strictly one coaches and also health coaches. We also do genetic testing and we also have mindset mindset Academy. So if you are interested in any of those sorts of things, please let me know, right guys, thanks very much for your time today and we'll see you. Speaker 1: (33:34) That's it this week for pushing the limits. Be sure to write, review, and share with your friends and head over and visit Lisa and her team at lisatamati.com.  

Pete and Tyler chat with Chris McDougall about his new book, Running with Sherman, burro racing in Leadville Colorado and his iconic book, Born to Run. Chris, on the genesis of Born to Run; “I was just trying to huff out a few miles and do the basic minimum physical requirement to not be morbidly obese, that was my goal in life, and I just kept getting injured all the time. I think that’s the reason Born to Run really resonated with people, was because I think it came at them from a perspective that a lot of people shared. We’re just trying to work out a little bit, why is so hard? Why is so unpleasant? Why do I have to force myself to do it? And that, to me, was the starting point of Born to Run”. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/adventureaudio/support

The SPOOKY SEASON IS NIGH, Y'ALL! So, of course, we're going to talk about our scariest, spookiest, most terrifying books. Plus, Ryan interviews Chris McDougall on his newest book, “Running with Sherman”, and joins in on the spooky recommendations. Also, (as always) current reads and upcoming events!  (BOO! Did I scare you?) Gibson's Bookstore Website Instagram Facebook Twitter Libro.fm (Our Audiobook Platform) Email us at thelaydownpodcast(at)gmail(dot)com  You Can Now use the code “LAYDOWN” for 3  audiobooks for the price of 1! Click this link to redeem! Or at checkout, use offer code: LAYDOWN Click the link in order to purchase the book from our store, or click the "Libro.fm" link to get the Audiobook on Libro.fm. Thanks for shopping local! Current Reads: Kelso- Mistborn: The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson We Ride Upon Sticks by Quan Barry (out March 2020) Hillary- Mindf*ck: Cambridge Analytica and the Plot to Break America by Christopher Wylie Catch and Kill: Lies, Spies, and a Conspiracy to Protect Predators by Ronan Farrow Ryan-  Hollow Kingdom by Kira Jane Buxton Chris McDougall's Work and Books Mentioned During the Interview: Running with Sherman: The Donkey with the Heart of a Hero Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Super Athletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen Natural Born Heroes: How a Daring Band of Misfits Mastered the Lost Secrets of Strength and Endurance The Ellery Queen Mystery Series (Link is to “The Chinese Orange Mystery”) Spooky Reads! The Exorcist by William Peter Blatty Room on the Broom by Julia Donaldson Teeny Tiny Ghost by Rachel Matson Bunnicula: A Rabbit-Tale of Mystery by Deborah Howe and James Howe Frankissstein: A Love Story by Jeanette Winterson Frankenstein by Mary Shelley Dracula by Bram Stoker Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz Carrie by Stephen King The New Annotated H.P. Lovecraft: Beyond Arkham, Edited by Leslie S. Kilinger, Introduction by Victor LaValle In Cold Blood by Truman Capote Spook: Science Tackles the Afterlife by Mary Roach Even More Spooky Reads! Ghost Hunters by Deborah Blum House of Leaves - Mark Z Danielewski The Need - Helen Phillips (Which is on the National Book Awards Longlist!) Pumpkinheads - Rainbow Rowell The Coldest Girl in Coldtown - Holly Black You - Caroline Kepnes Baby Teeth - Zoje Stage Asylum - Madeleine Roux Gideon the Ninth - Tamsyn Muir Scythe - Neal Shusterman Final Girls - Riley Sager Behind Her Eyes - Sarah Pinborough I'm Thinking of Ending Things - Iain Reid Conversion - Katherine Howe A Head Full of Ghosts - Paul Tremblay Bird Box - Josh Malerman Girl With All the Gifts - M. R. Carey Robopocalypse - Daniel H. Wilson Fiend - Peter Stenson World War Z - Max Brooks Room - Emma Donoghue Bloodsucking Fiends, You Suck, Bite Me - Christopher Moore Upcoming Events A Garden Miscellany, with Suzanne Staubach Home Now: How 6000 Refugees Transformed an American Town with Cynthia Anderson For to See the Elephant, with poet novelist Tammi Truax Gibson's Book Club Reads Confederates in the Attic by Tony Horowitz NaNoWriMo Write-in with Erin Bowman

Sarah and Molly catch up with Chris McDougall, author of the acclaimed book Born to Run, who talks about running with a donkey (!!), the topic of his just-out book, Running with Sherman. Lots of laughs, plus talk of: -the joy and fun of running with animals; -the growing popularity of burro racing; -the status of the film version of Born to Run; and, -the barefoot running craze. In the introduction, Sarah and Molly talk about meditation and Sarah’s debut #SportsBraSquad run. Chris hops in at 9:20. Please note: The word “ass” (aka “donkey”) gets bandied about a lot on this episode. Go to ThirdLove.com/amr to find your perfect-fitting bra—and get 15% off your first purchase! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chris McDougall is the author of the bestselling books “Born to Run” and “Natural Born Heroes.” His new book, “Running with Sherman,” documents the adventure of his family's adoption of a donkey named Sherman who had been neglected by an animal hoarder. Their solution to getting Sherman happy and healthy was to give him a purpose and teach him how to burro race. It's a must-read if you like animals or just want to hear an amazing story about running with donkeys, human performance, and so much m

Once again Chris McDougall finds a seed of truth and sprouts it into a great story - this time the millennia-old bond between animals and humans, and how that connection can still nurture us. And frustrate us, if you've just entered a burro race. "If you and that burro aren't of the same opinion where you're going and how fast, it can drag you up the side of a cliff or through a boulder field." - Ken Chlouber The story brings Chris full circle, as he first witnessed burro racing at the same time when he visited Leadville to learn about the Tarahumara, who won the 100 mile race then disappeared back into Copper Canyon. "You can't be a bully or a blowhard, and if that sounds more like one gender to you than another, you'll understand why men can struggle at this sport and women excel." "Running With Sherman" was just released on October 15 - buy it here: https://www.amazon.com/Running-Sherman-Donkey-Heart-Hero/dp/1524732362

Kia Ora Whanau. This week Eugene and Matt have the utter pleasure and privilege to speak with Nikki Kimball. Nikki is a legend in ultra running, and one of the pioneers of the modern age of the sport. In the 2000’s and early 2010’s Nikki was arguably the greatest female ultra runner in the world, a three time winner of Western States Endurance Run and winner of Run Rabbit Run, Speedgoat, The Bear 100, UTMB, Tahoe 100 and Marathon Des Sables...To name but a few. In this energetic, warm, and unalloyed conversation, Nikki talks about her return from long term rehabilitation, her background of skiing, how this lead to running, and her place as a trailblazer in women’s ultra marathon and the joy and deep frustration that this brings. We also tackled gender equality and how some race directors in attempting to level the field may perpetuate further inequality. Honest, raw, and deeply entertaining, we had as much fun speaking to Nikki as you will have listening to it. Also, Chris McDougall, if you’re reading… The Physios thank you. Enjoy.

“Natural Born Heroes” is an adventure book chock-full of remarkable historical facts alongside compelling insights into fitness, running, health. But perhaps it is most useful and memorable for its insights into Heroism. Improve your insights, improve your character with the wisdom and learnings from Chris McDougall, our latest Author in August.    

Liz Miele started doing stand-up at the young age of 16 in New York City. At 18, she was profiled in The New Yorker Magazine, at 22 she appeared on Comedy Central's “Live at Gotham.” She recently appeared on Comedy Central's “This Week at the Comedy Cellar,” NPR's “Wait Wait Don't Tell Me,” Hulu's “Coming To The Stage,” AXS TV's “Gotham Comedy Live,” and was profiled in the March 2015 issue of Runner's World. She's completed several tours with the “Nobodies of Comedy” and Armed Forces Entertainment. She has also performed on a book tour for Chris McDougall, author of “Born to Run.” Her joke “Feminist Sex Positions” went viral both on YouTube and Upworthy.com. She has written and produced season one of her animated web series “Damaged,”. She also co-produced and co-starred in 40 episodes of a web series called “Apt C3”. Liz recently released her debut comedy album, “Emotionally Exhausting” on iTunes and Amazon. In this podcast, we talk about a wide range of important issues she has had to cope with, including anxiety, her challenges with being dyslexic, the need to surround herself with strong support systems, the importance of therapy and her journey of working at self awareness. If you'd like to keep up to date with Liz check her out on: Website: www.lizmiele.com Facebook: lizmielecomedy Instagram/ Twitter: Lizmiele Follow @Funny in Failure on Insta and FB and @Michael_Kahan on Insta to keep up to date with the latest info.

Welcome to the Lancaster Story Slam podcast!  In November, we hosted our 2018 Lancaster Story Slam Grand Slam and our theme was “Bad Idea!”  As you know, our Grand Slam features our monthly winners from throughout the season who return to compete for the title of Best Storyteller in Lancaster.   This year, Chris McDougall won the grand slam about how investigating a sound in the alley turned out to be a bad idea. If you enjoy our podcast, you will probably also enjoy our live events!  A few changes are on the horizon for our fair Story Slam for 2019, so listen up.  Our typical venue, Tellus360 will be undergoing some renovations in the room where we host story slam, so we’ve found an alternate venue in Zoetropolis Cinema Stillhouse for our first few months of 2019.  Please join us at Zoetropolis located at 112 N. Water St, Lancaster. There they currently have a full bar and food, and will be opening a restaurant! As you know, Story Slam is held the 4th Tuesday of each month and in 2019 we will move the event to a 7pm start time!  So, 4th Tuesday of the month, 7pm at Zoetropolis. Now, back to our Grand Slam feature stories! Michael Evans returned to our stage after initially winning our January “New Beginnings” Slam.  Here is Michael’s story about how building the community within a church is a real challenge. Our next story comes from Marcus Grimm. Marcus told us about his first internship, writing ad copy at a local radio station. Remember the theme was Bad Idea. Remember that we’ll launch our 5th season starting on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 7pm at Zoetropolis.  Tickets for our events are available on our website, and while you’re there, you can sign up for our monthly newsletter. This year You can also follow us on Twitter, on Facebook, and watch videos of all the stories from our events on our YouTube channel. If you enjoyed the podcast, we’d love it if you you would leave a rating and review on iTunes, or let your friends know they can listen to Lancaster folks telling true tales each month. Thanks for listening!

Welcome to the Lancaster Story Slam podcast! Our theme for July was “Fast Lane!” The night was filled with stories of quick exits, high school pranks, and cross country trips.  We’re swerving into the Fast Lane now with our winning story featuring Chris McDougall. Chris is best known for his best-selling trail running book Born To Run, but this story is about his days as a rower in high school.  Next up, we were thrilled to see Cliff Lewis return to the mic. Cliff won the title of best storyteller in Lancaster back in 2015, and he returned with this amazing story about an all-American holiday.  Our final story is from Eileen Joyce, a very funny storyteller from York. This was an audience favorite.  Our next Story Slam will be held on August 28th and the theme is BEACH BUM! Join us at Tellus360 - we start telling stories at 8pm but most people come early for dinner and drinks. This could be the month you tell your story! Grab your tickets at LancasterStorySlam.com. If you enjoyed the podcast, we’d love it if you you would leave a rating and review on iTunes, or let your friends know they can listen to Lancaster folks telling true tales each month.  

Luis Escobar has made a life around distance running. He has run with the Tarahumara who run as a way of life and with homeless people using running to get “back on their feet.” If his name sounds familiar, he’s also the ultrarunning photographer featured in Born to Run, by Chris McDougall. In this episode we ask him what it is about ultra running that draws him, about his trip to Copper Canyon, Mexico, about the Tarahumara, and about the obstacles we all face in life. Lessons: 1. Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off the goal.
 2. When it feels like it’s over and you get up and keep moving, that’s when the magic happens.
 3. People who still live steeped in tradition and culture and who don’t espouse material values are not poor. They often live a rich life. 
 Links: Back on My Feet https://www.backonmyfeet.org/ All We Do Is Run http://www.allwedoisrun.com/ Luis Escobar on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/luis_escobar/ This episode is brought to you by FOUR SIGMATIC. Join the mushroom coffee revolution and save 15% using promo code SPARTAN http://foursigmatic.com/spartan SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Google Play: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpPlay   FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod   CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion, llc. Hosts: Joe De Sena with Johnny Waite, Sefra Alexandra, and Col. Tim Nye. Synopsis – Matt Baatz © 2018 Spartan    

Kara Lubin is a fourth generation public school teacher from California, a mother to two children, and also maintains a small farm with horses, dogs, and a tortoise named Rachel. We talk with Kara about how Rachel the tortoise is her spirit animal and how she struggled with an unhealthy relationship with running, exercise, and food while growing up. She strives to keep a well balanced and positive outlook on exercise and food as she strives to set an example for her children and others. Kara loves the Born to Run ultra marathons and prides herself in running slow and steady. She shares how she started the 100 Mile Club in 1992 and how her instinct led to developing a program that now reaches over 1.2 million children a year. With the 100 Mile Club, Kara is passionate about using running or other activities to inspire kids, as well as adults, to set a goal, work toward it a little each day, and help others along the way. We talk about a recent partnership 100 Mile Club has with our sponsor Goodr, which has resulted in a beautiful special pair of sunglasses that when purchased, enables two children to benefit from the 100 Mile Club program. Kara also shares about the amazing community of supportive runners she has met, including Chris McDougall, the author of Born to Run.   This episode is hosted by Matt Sorenson and is sponsored by goodr. Use code “runified2018” at playgoodr.com for a special Runified discount and to help support Runified and our running podcast!   Runified’s Website, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter 100 Mile Club Website, Instagram, Facebook, Run Like a Kid Goodr Sunglasses The Caballo Blanco Experience Episode 5 - The Kids Race - Video

[cherry_row] [cherry_col size_md="12"] Take a run with Ultra Stories as we discuss the true story of how the Leadville Trail 100-Mile Endurance Run was founded. In Part 2 of our interview with Dale "Sasquatch" Perry, we discuss Jim Butera.. the founder and original Race Director of the LT100. Jim was a well known Colorado race director in the early 1980s. He created the now defunct Colorado Ultra Club and the Moosejaw Ultra; and was the man who's dream and vision for a 100-mile race in Colorado's mountains got Leadville off the ground. Post interview, "Sherpa" John Lacroix and Hollis Lyman of HPRS bring it all together with hopes that the honest history of our sport can be preserved for generations to come. Show Links:Excerpt from October 1983 Ultrarunning Magazine - Leadville 100's first race report written by Race Director Jim Butera. Excerpt from October 1984 Ultrarunning Magazine - Mentions Jim Butera as founder and race director working in cooperation with Chlouber. Dave Combs April 1996 Cal 50 Race Report where he says, "The guy behind me came up and passed, and I just tagged along behind him toward the start/finish area. He was an interesting guy--Jim Butera, the founder of the Leadville 100." 5280 Magazine Article from June/July 2005 written by Chris McDougall talking about Ken Chlouber in detail while only briefly mentioning Jim Butera, yet discusses Jim and Ken's chance meeting in a Denver shoe store. Listed the year Ken moved to Leadville and started working in the mines as 1976. Sue Norwood's 2006 Leadville 100 Race Report which states "Jim Butera came up with an idea to put the town back on the map" and "Jim's idea of a trail ultra marathon that would start in Leadville, go out to the ghost town of Winfield, and return to Leadville started in 1983 with 45 runners and has mushroomed 24 years later into a popular, internationally-known race with over 500 participants. Jim was the first LT100 race director and still runs in the race; he is entered this year." --2010 Lifetime Fitness purchases Leadville Race Series-- --October 2012; Jim Butera Passes away and the story begins to change-- Leadville Herald Democrat from August 2013 reposting of an excerpt from the 1983 Herald Democrat which lists Ken Chlouber as a race sponsor, but Jim Butera as the "coordinator." Leadville Herald Democrat from August 8, 2013 where Jim Feistner (a 1984 Finisher of the event) wrote a letter to the editor to correct a report that the LT100 was started by Merilee Maupin; and he states, "The Leadville Trail 100 race came to be in 1983 and was the dream of founder and race director Jim Butera." --2013 Lifetime Fitness allows the Leadville Trail 100 to grow beyond it's means, starts almost 200 more runners then permits will allow, and chaos ensues-- Leadville Herald Democrat from October 2013 mentioning Jim Butera as coming "up with the idea of an ultra race in the Colorado Mountains, which became the Leadville Trail 100." --In the aftermath of 2013, Lifetime Fitness decides to go back to the races roots, celebrating Ken Chlouber as the sole founder, and use this marketing ploy as a way to save face and regain lost participants-- Trailrunner Magazine Article from February 24, 2014 written by Yitka Winn where she states Ken Chlouber "co-founded the LT100 with Colorado Ultra Club’s then-president Jim Butera." Yitka has since been blackballed in Leadville due to Ken's anger over her writing this. Trailrunner Magazine from a September 12, 2014 article written by Garett Graubins "True Grit: The Man Who Founded Leadville." Article lists 1974 as the year Chlouber moved to Leadville, contradicting the 2005 article written by McDougall that states 1976. Article also points out where Chlouber calls the Governor of Colorado "a dickhead" and his disparaging nickname for Dean Karnazes, "O-fer." No mention anywhere of Jim Butera and is the first time Jim has been completely erased from the history. May 24, 2016 Daily News from UltraRunnerPodcast which points towards the October 1984 Edition of Ultrarunning Magazine. In the comments from URPs daily news someone writes, "Interesting to read the copy of the Ultrarunning Magazine from 1984. I see in the Trail section of the Ultrarunning Calendar on page 58 it shows Jim Butera of the Colorado Ultra Club as the contact/director of the Leadville Trail 100." 2017 Hinsdale County Site Development Report mentioning LT100 being started by both Jim Butera and Ken Chlouber. 2017 Leadville Trail 100 Runner's Manual by Lifetime Fitness... In his open letter to runners, Ken Chlouber lists himself and Marilee as the founders of the event in 1982 (prior to the mine closing and instead of 1983) and makes no mention of Jim Butera. January 4, 2018 article for REI Co-op Journal completely void of any mention of Jim Butera, and states "That's when Chlouber had an idea, one potentially grand enough to put Leadville on the map: "What about a 100-mile race?" Further removing Jim as the founder and visionary for the 100 mile run. Also note that it says, "The first race in 1983 had 49 entrants, 10 of whom managed to cross the finish line. Among them was Chlouber himself, who traded his shovel and dynamite for sneakers and trail shoes." The race had 44 starters (not 49) and Ken Chlouber does not appear in the official results (see 1983 Ultrarunning Magazine excerpt above).  Leadville Race Series Lifetime Fitness Events (owners and directors of the LT100) The Ultra List Download This Episode [/cherry_col] [/cherry_row]

Chris McDougall is the world wide best selling Author of Born to Run and Natural Born Heroes. Two books that have revolutionised the running world and bought to the fore the discussions around human endurance, the history of running, the ability of people to run incredible distances and the barefoot running revolution. In this fireside chat we discuss how he writes his incredibly entertaining and intricately woven stories despite have ADHD. How he manages to sit still long enough to get anything down and what impact the stories he has shared have had on millions of readers around the world.  Trained as a foreign correspondent for the Associated Press, Christopher McDougall covered wars in Rwanda and Angola before writing his international bestseller, Born to Run. His fascination with the limits of human potential led him to create the Outside magazine web series, “Art of the Hero.” Born to Run is currently being made into a feature film starring Matthew McConaughey. The book - "Born to Run" was about a Hidden Tribe of superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen. It was a 2009 best-selling ethnography. The book has sold over three million copies.   Natural Born Heroes:  Chris in this book travels to the Mediterranean, where he discovers that the secrets of ancient Greek heroes are still alive and well on the island of Crete, and ready to be unleashed in the muscles and minds of casual athletes and aspiring heroes everywhere. After running an ultramarathon through the Copper Canyons of Mexico, Christopher McDougall finds his next great adventure on the razor-sharp mountains of Crete, where a band of Resistance fighters in World War II plotted the daring abduction of a German general from the heart of the Nazi occupation. How did a penniless artist, a young shepherd, and a playboy poet believe they could carry out such a remarkable feat of strength and endurance, smuggling the general past thousands of Nazi pursuers, with little more than their own wits and courage to guide them? McDougall makes his way to the island to find the answer and retrace their steps, experiencing firsthand the extreme physical challenges the Resistance fighters and their local allies faced. On Crete, the birthplace of the classical Greek heroism that spawned the likes of Herakles and Odysseus, McDougall discovers the tools of the hero—natural movement, extraordinary endurance, and efficient nutrition. All of these skills, McDougall learns, are still practiced in far-flung pockets throughout the world today. For more information on Chris and his epic adventures and books visit www.chrismcdougall.com Training Tilt software - a complete toolkit for trainers, health and fitness professionals, coaches and nutritionists, combine your website, ecommerce needs, client communication and training plans into one easy to use platform. Find out more at www.lisatamati.co.nz/trainingtilt   The Path of an Athlete - Mindset academy. This is an in-depth online programme that teaches you how to develop mental toughness, resilience, leadership skills, a never quit mentality  and the keys for success in any endeavour. Do you wish you had the mental toughness of an extreme athlete? Do you seek the confidence to deal with any threat, to steer any situation or challenge to a positive outcome? If so, you can now learn the secrets to mental toughness and to developing a never quit mindset from someone who has been there and done that and lived to tell the tale. For more information on "The Path of an Athlete" mindset eCourse go to www.lisatamati.co.nz/ecourse  

Chris’s Wild Idea: To explore the limits of human potential, and to write amazing stories about it. Chris McDougall is the author of the bestselling books, Born to Run and Natural Born Heroes. His first book spawned the barefoot running movement and altered the running shoe industry forever. It’s also being made into a movie starring Matthew McConaughey. Natural Born Heroes dives into the history of how every-day citizens and amazing athletes on the island of Crete withstood the German forces during World War II. This is the kind of thing he loves: finding amazing stories about less-known athletes achieving amazing feats, and digging in to learn about their strategies, training, diets, and more, then sharing them with readers. In 2011, I traded Chris surf lessons for barefoot running lessons. Since then, Chris has become not only a great writing mentor, but also a friend. On this episode, we talked about his life since the success of his books, what techniques he learned while researching them (including movement based exercises used by the Cretans), why he may discourage you from becoming a writer, and why donkeys (yes donkeys) make great running partners. Chris is an amazing storyteller and I think that really comes through in this podcast. Listen to this episode if:  You’ve read Born to Run or Natural Born Heroes. You’re interested in the minimal running footwear revolution. You want to shift your diet and improve your performance. You’ve thought about moving to the country. You’re a runner of any distance. You want to be a writer. You want to know how the heck he trains with donkeys. For full show notes, including guest links and books mentioned during the episode, visit: http://wildideasworthliving.com/46

The theme for our April Story Slam was Money! We had a fun night, hearing from several first time storytellers and a few seasoned performers also. David Smith won our Money story Slam with his tale of a moment when his understanding of money changed.  We’ve all tried to save money in ways which we later regret. Melissa Snavely tells her story of trying to get something for free. Was it worth it? We’ll let you decide. Our final storyteller is Chris McDougall. In his early days, Chris was a foreign reporter for AP. At our “Money’ Story Slam, he told us about one of his dangerous “other duties” during this time. Our next Story Slam is themed “Don’t Tell Mom,” and will be held on Tuesday May 23rd at Tellus360 in downtown Lancaster, PA. You can order your tickets and watch videos of stories at LancasterStorySlam.com. Well, that’s our podcast for this month! If you are a fan of the West Chester Story Slam podcast - please let your friends know, or write a review on iTunes.

Derek Loudermilk is a Professional Adventurer, World Record Holder and has the badge of honor for being fired from nearly every 9 to 5 job he's had. The realization that he was a bad employee motivated him to pursue a digital nomad life that required minimalist living while traveling the world and figuring out a way to make money around his areas of expertise. Derek has a very diverse set of skills. He earned a Masters Degree in Microbiology and while completing his degree he discovered a virus in the boiling acid hot springs of Yellowstone National Park that may represent one of the most ancient forms of life. In basic terms, he discovered a new species. "Be comfortable with the uncomfortable." He's also raced bicycles professionally while living in Spain and he's a constant world traveler. His newest area of expertise is also being a new Dad with a 5 month old but this addition to the family isn't slowing down his pursuit of traveling and adventure. Derek has figured out how to build his profession and income around his unique set of skills that has enabled him to be an entrepreneur exploring his passionate pursuits, build his online companies and continue to be a Professional Adventurer. In this episode we discuss... Getting fired from his first job in less than 5 weeks. Him visiting 27 different countries and living in Indonesia, Australia, Spain and Croatia. His quest to live in every continent for longer than 3 months. Replacing jobs with artificial intelligence. The impact of reading The 4 Hour Work Week. Write the book 'Conductors: Orchestrate the Next Big Thing' that was picked up by a major publisher. Coaching professional athletes. Being inspired by Lewis Howes and John Lee Dumas to start The Art of Adventure podcast. The joy of nerding out and going deep into running with Chris McDougall, author of Born to Run. Interviewing another Professional Adventurer, Dave Cornthwaite with Expedition 1000 to go on 25 trips of 1000 miles using non-motorized transportation. Living on the cheap to have a long runway to try new businesses. Setting a world record for climbing Bali's 3 highest peaks in less than 15 hours. Show Notes: DerekLoudermilk.com Twitter and Instagram: @DerekLoudermilk Facebook: @DrLoudermilk Derek's book 'Conductors: Orchestrate the Next Big Thing' The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich Thank you to Kelli Law for introducing us over Twitter @Kelli_J_Law Sponsors PrintDirtCheap.com – Rockstars in printing with over 30 categories of printing products doing it FAST and doing it CHEAP. Use promo code ‘LIFEHUNTER’ for $10 off of your print job or request a free sample of their work. Check out clickplacement.com to design your search engine marketing strategies and launch an epic PPC campaign. Support the Go Hunt Life show by making a donation to help keep the life hunter stories coming at Patreon.com/gohuntlife Editing and production by: FriedoNation.com Mic used on the Go Hunt Life podcast: Audio-Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid Dynamic USB/XLR Microphone Check out all of the podcast episodes: Go Hunt Life on iTunes

Chris McDougall is well known for his 2009 book Born to Run, which, among many other things, tells the story of the Tarahumara (Rarámuri), the tribe who (literally) ran away from the Spanish Conquistadors in the 16th century – and never came back. The book features the stories of several colorful characters including the peripatetic runner known as Caballo Blanco, who died in 2012, the podcaster/antelope-chaser Scott Carrier and the effervescent ultra-runner Scott Jurek. For me, it was singularly important because it convinced me to take off my shoes and run barefoot.Ever since seeing him on The Daily Show and then reading the book, I’ve wanted to ask Chris about the irony of embracing barefoot running in the 21st century, when every single technological advancement (and accompanying advertising) seems to implore us to do otherwise. This notion goes beyond athletics; our culture has deliberately forgotten myriad practices that our ancestors employed tens of thousands of years ago. Are we better off as a result? Chris and I seem to agree that we’re not.Chris has recently taken up another ancestral activity: animal partnerships. As he details in his New York Times series “Running With Sherman,” Chris’s latest endeavor is burro-running, which more than anything else requires a quality our culture seems to devalue: patience. He’s currently working on a book about this venture, to accompany Born to Run and Natural Born Heroes (2015).http://samschindler.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/WWWA_027_122716.mp3DOWNLOAD this episodeSUBSCRIBE to this podcast See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Bestselling author and journalist Chris McDougall is on tap chatting about his latest book Natural Born Heroes. Among the ideas we discuss is what Chris describes as the three qualities that intrinsically make up a hero. And have you ever considered that you're outsourcing your physical fitness? Chris details the living natural art of movement that is Parkour, and points out why it's helpful to watch children and dogs at play. For much more information be sure to stop by Chris's site www.chrismcdougall.com. And be on the lookout for Born to Run as a feature film starring Matthew McConaughey coming soon! Don't forget to visit www.ACloserLookRadio.com for more fascinating and inspiring interviews!  

After a career in international journalism, Chris, who is fascinated by the human body, wrote Born to Run, an international bestseller that is being made into a movie starring Matthew McConaughey.  His most recent book, Natural Born Heroes, is a national bestseller. Chris is a fascinating speaker, and I’m sure you will love every minute of today’s episode.  Some of the topics that we cover include: ●     What Chris has been up to since the last time we talked, about a year ago.   ●     Lessons Chris has learne [...]

Welcome to the Lancaster Story Slam podcast, sponsored by Levante Brewing Company! Elevate your craft with a pint from Levante!  Our theme for the May Story Slam was “Brush with Fame,” and people showed up with some amazing stories. We had fourteen people put their name in the cup!  While many of the stories were about awkward celebrity meetings, the winning story was quite different. Tony Crocamo won the prized pint glass - and earned a spot in our November Grand Slam - with this beautifully crafted tale.  The next three stories are all about awkward celebrity encounters. We loved them all so we’re including all three.  First up - writer Chris McDougall talks about spending some quality time with one of Hollywood’s biggest names.  Next up is David Smith. David has recently caught the story slam bug. He has been spotted telling stories in West Chester, the Lehigh Valley, and now in Lancaster. This is one spectacular story. Our final story is from Jes Plain. This is just one of those funny awkward moments that occasionally happens to the best of us. We’re glad Jess shared this story with us. Thanks for listening! This podcast is produced by Carla Wilson of Wilson Media Services. Theme and sponsor music composed and performed by David Wilson. You can learn more at WilsonMediaServices.com.

In this week’s episode I interview bestselling author, athlete and publishing sensation Chris McDougall. Chris is the author of ‘Born to Run’ which is arguably responsible for the modern barefoot running movement and he has more recently published ‘Natural Born Heroes’ which tells the remarkable tale of the defence of Crete during WW2. Along the way the novel explores such diverse themes as diet, parkour, martial arts, instinctive throwing and just what it takes to be heroic. Chris learned to throw knives and tomahawks under the tutelege of Joe Darrah and Patrick Brewster and demonstrated his own skill by throwing everyday kitchen knives while on the stage before sell-out audiences during his international book signing tour in 2015. In this interview we discuss throwing, training, reconnecting to our instincts and his current magnificent obsession which involves mountains, running and a donkey called Sherman!

Comedian Liz Miele (Live at Gotham) tells us something good about talking to George Carlin on the phone, insomnia, how a bad break up fueled a passion for running, cats and her book tour with author Chris McDougall of "Born to Run". Follow her on twitter @LizMiele and check out her website LizMiele.com.

"Turn running into play" - Chris McDougall I am super excited for this episode because my guest is one of my personal adventure heroes! He is the very definition of a curious explorer, and all his work ties back into the simple truth of having fun being a human. Chris McDougall is perhaps best know for his phenomenal 2009 book, Born to Run, where he explores running as a human birthright, by following the Tarahumara indians of Copper Canyon, Mexico. Born to Run is one of the main reasons I started eating chia seeds and got back into train running when I lived in Montana. Born to Run is also currently being made into a movie with Matthew McConaughey. Chris has another amazing new book out in Natural Born Heroes which tells a further story of Cretan resistance runners in WWII, parkour, and human performance. This episode was a ton of fun for me, as Chris and I share a lot of common interests. We go over both his books, and broadly covers diet, running, athletic performance, movement, evolution, and mindset. I think you will be fascinated at how many different ideas Chris can bring into the conversation. If you are at all interested in optimal human performance, running, or health, this is the episode for you! Quotes: "Born to run articulated what people were already thinking" - Chris McDougall "We have a weird notion that other people are better than we are" - Chris McDougall "Turn running into play" - Chris McDougall "Why do we pay people to play our games for us?" - Chris McDougall "We can't pretend we can outthink mother nature" - Chris McDougall "I try to never do what I've done the day before" - Chris McDougall "We are curious about what we don't understand" - Chris McDougall "What is good for the species is good for the individual" - Chris McDougall "We are unstoppable explorers" - Chris McDougall "I practice running with pleasure and not pain" - Chris McDougall "Adventure is ignorance, I live my life by stupidity" - Chris McDougall What you will learn in this episode: -How to take advantage of free elastic recoil (stored energy in your fascia) -The running form technique the the world's most efficient runners use -Why you should consider removing fast burning foods from your diet -How and why you should get into Parkour -How to Vault and Bear Crawl -How to forage for food in an urban environment -How to minimize injury and maximize fat burning -Why Chris refines his running form every couple of years -How you can emulate the virtues of ancient Greek heroes -The mental stages of attempting new movements Continue the adventure: ChrisMcDougall.com The Outside Magazine series The Art of the Hero Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen Natural Born Heroes: How a Daring Band of Misfits Mastered the Lost Secrets of Strength and Endurance The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals Tara Wood Wild Fitness Thanks Chris McDougall! If you enjoyed this session of The Art of Adventure Podcast, let Chris know by clicking on the link below and sending him a quick shout out on Twitter: Click here to thank Chris on Twitter Support the Art of Adventure! This podcast is supported by listeners like you! Become a patron of the Art of Adventure on Patreon Subscribe to The Art of Adventure Podcast for free in iTunes or Stitcher. If you enjoyed the show, please help us by leaving a 5-star rating and review! You might also like these episodes: AOA 029 | Adam Stanecki | Helping Fitness Professionals Help More People AOA 038 | Les Leventhal | From Drug Addicted Porn Star to World Famous Yoga Teacher AOA 060 | Dave Cornthwaite | Say Yes To Adventure

I am not gonna lie, when I start each podcast, I am nervous. I am well aware that I am talking to someone who has given up their most precious resource to share their knowledge with the runners connect community. When I received the confirmation email about the interview with my guest today, I was over the moon. However, that excitement soon turned to panic as I realized just how influential this guest is within our running world. I am pretty sure almost everyone listening has read or at least heard of the book born to run, and when you hear that people like Matthew Mchonaguey read the book, and requested to play one of the main characters in [...]

In this episode I talk with Born to Run coach Eric Orton. I first heard about Eric after reading Chris McDougall's Born to Run. Eric taught McDougall how to run with proper technique and eventually trained him to run a 50 mile endurance race in the Copper Canyons of Mexico. We talk about running, Eric's shoe company B2R shoes, minimalist footwear, Eric's new book The Cool Impossible, nutrition and how the mind relates to running. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/aaronolson/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aaronolson/support

Find out why Dimity dubbed this, “our best podcast ever!” Chris McDougall, author of the bestselling book Born to Run that spawned the barefoot running movement, dishes with Sarah and Dimity about the movie adaptation of B2R, his favorite running route, and the topic of his next book (which he admits to being “1.7 years” past deadline). […] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week The Wellness Guys interview Chris McDougall. Author of one of Brett's favourite books Born To Run Chris talks about a wide range of topics from barefoot running, to ultra marathons, to varying your exercise routine and an unbelievable super tribe from Mexico. Have you ever wondered whether those expensive runners are really worth Listen In The post TWG 39: Born to Run – Interview with Chris McDougall appeared first on The Wellness Couch.

We have the chance to ask National Best Selling author and trail runner Christopher McDougall, "Why are we Born To Run?" Christopher doesn't stop with the WHY - he throws in some WHAT and HOW too. We discuss some of his "Aha" moments writing his book Born To Run. Grab some chia seeds and join us.