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Miguel is a climbing physical therapist who works closely with the Method youth climbing team in the US and recently worked his first youth nationals! In this episode, we'll learn about the danger of growth plate injuries in youth climbing athletes, we'll get a glimpse into youth ISO, we'll rank 3 of the most dangerous comp moves we've seen so far, and we'll hear about his own journey trying to make the Peruvian national team!Guest links:Miguel's InstagramMiguel's websiteReference links:Thank you Mad Rock for sponsoring this episode! Use code 'notrealclimber' for 10% off your ENTIRE order, even if you're a returning customer! https://madrock.com/Learn more about the podcast at www.thatsnotrealclimbingpodcast.comFollow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/thatsnotrealclimbingpodcastJoin the FREE community in Discord! https://discord.gg/QTa668g8zpJoin Patreon for a welcome gift, deleted scenes, and question priority: www.patreon.com/thatsnotrealclimbingpodcastTimestamps of discussion topicsTimestamps of discussion topics0:00 - Intro1:18 - Mad Rock Shoutout!!2:03 - Getting into PT and climbing4:09 - OTs vs PTs and insurance battles7:26 - Working with youth comp climbers9:44 - What ISO is like at youth nationals14:38 - Massage guns? And my bro-science musings16:43 - Injuries in kids vs adults19:37 - The big one: growth plate injuries in kids25:01 - When to rest vs train through an injury27:34 - General recommendations for climbing injuries32:45 - S+C to prevent ankle, shoulder injuries35:26 - Ranking 3 dangerous comp moves42:27 - When NOT to tape47:28 - What injuries do vs don't require time off the wall52:53 - Chronic injuries? Maybe you're climbing wrong...59:33 - Training for Peruvian nationals1:06:37 - DISCORD Q: What advice would you give to PT students looking to work with climbers?1:08:46 - DISCORD Q: What are the pillars of a strong climbing warmup?1:12:27 - DISCORD Q: top 2 exercises for injury prevention1:17:29 - Words of wisdom and where to find Miguel

Colin discusses the importance of tailoring health and safety approaches to the unique needs of each organisation, stressing that while standardised models, such as ISO 9001, can provide value, imposing them without considering the specific context of a business can lead to inefficiencies and frustration KEY TAKEAWAYS Start by asking leaders within the organisation what success looks like to them. Understanding their vision and goals is crucial for providing effective support and guidance. Simply imposing a standardised model, like ISO 9001, can lead to unnecessary bureaucracy and paperwork. Instead, focus on integrating existing processes with the standards to enhance effectiveness. While it's important to aim high, ensure that the goals set are achievable. Collaborate with the organisation to establish sensible targets that can be realistically met over time. BEST MOMENTS "If you just try and impose the structure of 9001 into a business... all you're really gonna do is stuff that organisation up with a load of paperwork." "Ask them, you know, what does success look like for them?" "It's about getting something that's really sensible, get an approach that people can look back in six months... and say, we've made a difference." VALUABLE RESOURCES The Interesting Health & Safety Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/vn/podcast/the-interesting-health-safety-podcast/id1467771449         Project Mollitiam - https://www.projectmollitiam.com       ABOUT THE HOST Colin Nottage ‘Making health and safety as important as everything else we do.' This is the belief that Colin is passionate about and through his consultancy Influential Management Group (IMG) is able to spread into industry. Colin works at a strategic level with company owners and board members. He helps business leaders establish and achieve their health and safety ambitions. He has developed a number of leading competency improvement programmes that are delivered across industry and his strengths are his ability to take a practical approach to problem-solving and being able to liaise at all levels within an organisation. Colin also runs a company that vets contractors online and a network that develops and support H&S consultancies to become better businesses. Colin chairs the Construction Dust Partnership, an industry collaboration directly involving many organisations, including the Health and Safety Executive. He is a Post Graduate Tutor at Strathclyde University and a highly sought-after health and safety speaker and trainer. He has a Post Graduate Certificate in Safety and Risk management, an engineering degree and is a Chartered Member of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH).

Vendors, suppliers, and partners can make—or break—your security posture. A single weak third party can compromise your entire ecosystem. That's why Third-Party Risk Management (TPRM) is no longer optional; it's essential.In this complete TPRM guide by InfosecTrain, we'll explore proven strategies, global standards, and real-world lessons that help organizations secure their supply chain against hidden threats.

Welcome back to Part 2 of the ISO 27001 Audit Masterclass with InfosecTrain! If Part 1 set the foundation, this episode dives deeper into the practical side of the ISO 27001:2022 audit journey. From planning and execution to identifying gaps and driving improvements, this session equips you with the insights needed to not just pass an audit—but excel at it.Whether you're preparing for your very first audit or refining your organization's compliance framework, InfosecTrain brings you actionable strategies, real-world tips, and clear guidance to ensure your audit process delivers measurable results. By the end, you'll understand how to move beyond compliance and build lasting certification success.

What does it really take to build an ISO capable of boarding 600+ new merchant accounts every month? In this week's episode, James Shepherd sits down with Dustin Magaziner of PayBright to explore the strategies, systems, and mindset behind scaling an ISO to that level. From operational challenges to growth tactics, Dustin shares a behind-the-scenes look at what's working today in the industry. Then, James is joined by Patti Murphy for Today in Payments, where they unpack the latest stories shaping the future of payments—including updates on interchange regulation and surcharging.

Our guest this time is Kay Thompson. As Kay says in her bio, she is a minister, TV show host, author, Realtor® and business owner. If that isn't enough, she has raised a son and a daughter. Kay grew up, as she says, a military brat. She has lived in a number of places around the world. Like others we have had the pleasure to have as guests, her travels and living in various places and countries has made her curious and given her a broad perspective of life.   After high school she went to college. This life was a bit of a struggle for her, but the day came when she realized that college would be a positive thing for her. She will tell us the story.   After college she and her second husband, her first one died, moved to Atlanta where she has now resided for over 30 years. Kay always has had a strong faith. However, the time came when, as she explains, she actually heard God calling her to go into the ministry. And so, she did.   Kay tells us about how she also has undertaken other endeavors including writing, selling real estate and working as a successful Television host. It goes without saying that Kay Thompson performs daily a number of tasks and has several jobs she accomplishes. I hope you will be inspired by Kays's work. Should you wish to contact Kay, visit her website www.kaythompson.org.     About the Guest:   Kay Thompson is a minister, TV show host, author, Realtor® and business owner. She is the founder of Kay Thompson Ministries International, a kingdom resource for healing, hope and spiritual development. Kay is also the founder of Legacy Venture Group, a consulting and media firm which has helped countless businesses, organizations and individuals to strategically maximize potential. Kay holds a BA in Art History from Rutgers University in Camden, NJ, and an MA in Christian Ministry from Mercer University in Atlanta, GA. She is the former program director of WGUN 1010 in Atlanta and hosted the Kay Thompson TV Show, which aired on WATC-TV 57 in Atlanta. She currently hosts for the Atlanta Live broadcast on TV- 57. Kay is a member of the staff for the Studio Community Fellowship at Trillith Studios in Fayetteville, and is a host for their weekly service. She also serves as a member of the Board of Advisors for the A.D. King Foundation and works with several other non­ profit organizations in the Metro Atlanta area. Kay has lived in Georgia for over thirty years and is a resident of Stockbridge. She has two wonderful children: Anthony (Jasmine) and Chanel; and one grandchild, AJ. Kay enjoys reading, bowling and spending time with her family.   Ways to connect with Kay:   Facebook (Kay Thompson Ministries) https://www.facebook.com/kaythompsonministries Instagram (@kayrthompson) https://www.instagram.com/kayrthompson/     About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset .   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.       Transcription Notes:   Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:17 Hi, everyone. I would like to say greetings wherever you happen to be today, we have a wonderful guest today. This is a woman, I would say, of many, many talents. I've been looking forward to this for a while. Kay Thompson is a minister, a TV host. She's an author, she's a realtor, and she's a business owner. My gosh, all of those. I want to find out how she does all those. But anyway, Kay, I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad that you're here.   Kay Thompson ** 01:54 Well, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate being here, and thank you for contacting me excited.   Michael Hingson ** 02:01 Well, how do you do all those things all at once?   Kay Thompson ** 02:05 Well, you know, definitely can't do them all at once. Oh, okay, well, so have to kind of parse them out each day. And as I get assignments, that's how it goes. And got to prioritize one over the other. You   Michael Hingson ** 02:22 know? Well, we will, we will get to all of those, I am sure, in the course of the next hour or so. But I'm really glad that you're here, and as yet, I've been looking forward to this for a while, and and I'm sure we're going to have a lot of fun. Why don't we start? Maybe you could go back and tell us kind of about the early K growing up. What about you? So people can get to know you?   Kay Thompson ** 02:44 Oh, yeah. So growing up with the daughter of a military father, military officer. As a matter of fact, he rose to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. So that was interesting. So it was kind of a privileged military life in that sense that, you know, he just was always, he was a very important figure in his time. So that was interesting, walking on the base with him. And, you know, people would stop and salute him, you know, it was, it was, and I was just a little caught, you know, just running alongside him and just real proud, real proud   Michael Hingson ** 03:28 of my father. Did you have any Did you have any siblings?   Kay Thompson ** 03:31 I do? I have two brothers. Yeah, they both lived in Arizona. I was in the middle, so smashed right in the middle between two very muscular, very had a very demanding, commanding, excuse me, commanding presences. So in between the two brothers there, yeah, and then my mother, she was an English teacher, and very, you know, did excellent in her own right. She did a lot of drama, just a lot of teaching. She ended up in her 60s getting her doctorate degree, and, you know, just really excelled in education. And so she was the one that was really big on education. You know, go to school, go to school. Go to school. I don't want to go to school. Well, you need to go to school anyway. So I went to school anyway. That's how I can say my life was. Now, where did you grow up? All over,   Michael Hingson ** 04:32 okay, you did. I was going to ask if you did a lot of travel, since your dad was in the military.   Kay Thompson ** 04:38 Yeah, we certainly did. I was born in Tacoma, Washington. Oh, I don't remember any portion of it, because we were the only there, basically, so I could be born. I feel like, I know that's not the reason. But we went to Washington so I could be born, and then we lived there about a year, and then we moved to New York City. Then. We moved to. Now, by this my brother was already born, because all of us are three years apart. So my brother was born in Verdun, France, okay, and then they moved to, I can't remember where they were before that. I don't know if they went straight to from there to Washington State, and then we moved to New York, and then we went to Aberdeen, Maryland, and that's where my younger brother was born. And then from there, we went to Germany. We stayed there for about three years. From Germany, we went, I can't believe I remember all this. And from Germany, we went to Ohio. We stayed there for a couple of years. And actually we were there when they had that tornado. Was like in the 70s, there was a tornado Zenith Ohio. Well, we weren't far from zenith at the time. So we were there. Then we moved from there to Virginia, and it was there for three years, then to New Jersey, and then that's where my father retired. So we were all over the place.   Michael Hingson ** 06:10 You were, my gosh, well, did you, did you learn any of the foreign languages when you were in Germany and France, or, yeah,   Kay Thompson ** 06:23 in Germany, we could only, I only remember vaguely, you know, hello, thank you to know what it is now off beat is saying goodbye, Danka and bitter, thank you. You're welcome and good, yeah. But tight. But, no, no, we didn't do that at all   Michael Hingson ** 06:47 so, but you, you certainly did a lot and you had a lot of adventures. How do you think that all of that travel affected you as you grew older? What? What did it do that helped shape you?   Kay Thompson ** 07:03 Well, I know that, you know, of course, traveling. You know, you hear the story about kids all the time they travel, and because if they're if they're moving a lot, it's hard to create lasting, long term friendships, because you're just constantly moving. And you know, never mind moving to another city, but when you go to another state, even from another country. Now, I did happen to have a friendship with a young lady. Her name was Audrey, and I met her in Germany, and I was between the age of about three to five. I met her in Germany, and we stayed friends till I was in Virginia. So you're talking from Germany, wow, to Maryland, to Virginia. We were friends until Virginia, but then once I left Virginia and went to New Jersey, and I was there for my part of my middle school and then the rest of my high school, we fell out of touch. So that was one of the things I would say is difficult, you know, just having lifelong friends, yeah, that was, that was probably one of the more difficult things. But one thing on the other side is it made great being that person that was a world traveler. It was great when you're in school and they, you know, they ask you in your classroom, hey, you know, tell us something unique about you. Oh, well, I've been to Germany because my parents, when we were in Germany, they wasted no time traveling. They were always traveling. We were on the road all the time. I mean literally, and you know, they, they were just great world travelers. We went we went to Italy, we went to Spain, we went to France, we went to Switzerland. We went everywhere in Europe that they could get in that Volvo that they had. We had a nice little Volvo, and we would pitch out at, you know, campsites, you know, just any way they could to get where they needed to get, because they wanted to see these sites, and especially because my mother was an English teacher, she did a lot of plays, she directed a lot of plays, a lot of Shakespeare. And so a lot of these places were in these books, in this literature that she taught, and I'm sure that's probably one of the major reasons they did all this traveling, all these places that she had studied about, and, you know, taught about, she actually got to go see now, I must say, the only place I didn't go to that I wanted to go to that for some reason, she took my older brother. She didn't take any, noone else went, but my mother and my older brother. And I can't understand that trip to this day they those two went to. Greece. We didn't know. No one else in the family went to Greece. And I meant to ask, I'm going to, you know, when I finish this interview, I'm going to call my brother and ask him, What, what? What did you and mom go to Greece? You know, because nobody else got to go. But I would have loved to go there as well, but, but at the time, you know, new kid, it was okay. Mom and mom and Chuck are going away. Okay. But now that I think back and look back, maybe it was, I never, I never asked about that, but I'm going to ask, Did   Michael Hingson ** 10:34 it help you, though, develop a sense of adventure and and not create any kind of fear of of traveling around. Did it make you a more curious person? Because you got to go to so many places? Oh, I asked that in the on the basis of as you grew older and thought about it.   Kay Thompson ** 10:52 Oh, yeah, I'm a very curious person, curious person, and at times that can be a little nosy, right? And so, yeah, so that, to me, was, I think, one of the ways that built expanded my mind in terms of wanting to know about people and about things, because I've worked in public relations for many years, and so just being able to understand the perspective of other people from different cultures and different mindsets, being open to people from different cultures, different races, different religions, wanting to hear their point of view, interested in you know how they feel about things, because you can have a subject, or You can have something come up, and you have so many different perspectives from people. And you can see the very same thing, they can be shown the very same thing, but one person sees it from their lens, you know, from where you know, yeah, whether it's how they grew up or their external influences, and then someone could see the very same thing, and it interpret it totally different. Yeah. So   Michael Hingson ** 12:08 one of the one of the things that I've noticed in talking to a number of people who came from military families and and others as well, who did do a fair amount of travel to various countries and so on. They do tend to be more curious, and I think that's a very positive thing. They they have a broader outlook on so many things, and they tend to be more curious and want to learn more and wish that more people could have the same experiences that they had.   Kay Thompson ** 12:40 Yeah. I mean, not afraid to try new things too, for things that other people would would not like. I remember in Germany being very young, being fed octopus and snail. You know, these delicacies over there in Germany, I remember that at this my where my father was stationed, in Germany. The street, it was in like a court area. It felt like a court area, big apartments set up in a U shape, and then right across in a U shape in the in the middle of a field, like an open space, not a field, but an open space. And then right outside of that open space, we could jump out of that open space right into a busy street called Roma Strasse, and right on the other side of that busy street was Old Town, Germany, literally stepping there were no fences and no bars and no gates. We're stepping straight from our backyard into Germany, because the base was more Americanized. So you really felt Americanized on the base. But once you stepped into Germany, the houses were these. You know, cobble it was cobblestone streets. And I remember me and my brothers used to walk out of our backyard, that big open area, and go across the street into Germany and get the authentic gummy bears. That was our weekly trip. And these gummy bears, I'm telling you now, for gummy bear enthusiasts out there, the gummy bears in Germany looked nothing like these gummy bears that we see here. They were huge. They were the cutest little bears. I almost felt guilty eating them, but we just had a great time. I remember great memories from our exploits, our visits, the life was different. You know, toilet paper was harder. I just remember now that was years ago. I don't know what it's like now, but   Michael Hingson ** 14:49 yeah, but does the gummy bears taste better?   Kay Thompson ** 14:53 Well, now I can't remember, because then, when you're a kid, any candy, you know, if you say candy, I say, yeah. Much, you know. So when I was that young, I couldn't tell, but they probably did, you know. But then again, for those people that like because I don't drink, but the beer there is much darker, too. So some people don't like that. So better to them. You know, could be, you know, we don't like it to us. So   Michael Hingson ** 15:25 I've never been to China, but I've been to Japan twice, and there's a food in China called dim sum. Are you familiar with dim sum? Okay, I'll tell you dim sum in Japan is I and I think better. It's different and tastes better than dim sum in the United States. Now I have to go to China one of these days and try it. Yeah.   Kay Thompson ** 15:48 Well, if you ever go to the buffets, have you ever gone to the Yeah? Yeah. Okay, so if you notice the people that work there, they do not eat the food that the buffet. Yeah, they so one day I'm going to do this too. I'm like, hey, you know, can I have some of which   Michael Hingson ** 16:09 you guys eat? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, but it is, it is interesting. It's fun to to investigate and explore. And I haven't traveled around the world much. I have as a speaker, had some opportunities to travel, but I think my curiosity came from being a blind person who was encouraged by my parents to explore, and the result was that I did a lot of exploring, just even in our house around our neighborhood. And of course, when the internet came along, and I still believe this is true, it is a treasure trove of just wonderful places to go visit. And yeah, I know there's the dark web and all that, but I ignore that. Besides that, probably the dark web is inaccessible, and maybe someday somebody will sue all the people who have sites on the dark web because they're not accessible. But nevertheless, the internet is just a treasure trove of interesting places to visit in so many ways. Yeah,   Kay Thompson ** 17:17 and then a virtual reality. So one of the places that I wanted to go to was, I've always wanted to go to Egypt. I haven't had an opportunity yet, and personally, right now, don't know how you know how good an idea that is right now. Yeah, but I went to a recent VR exploration of the pyramids in Egypt. And I'm telling you, if that was how it seemed, it's definitely was a way to help me to, you know, live it out, so to speak. Because there's, like, for instance, there's a place in Florida called the Holy Land, the Holy Land, you know, the whole just like a theme park. And they say it looks, you know, there are areas where it looks just like Israel, parts of Israel. So, you know, in that respect, I've been able to realize some portion of the dream. But yeah, I have been love to get there.   Michael Hingson ** 18:16 I have been to Israel, and I enjoy happy. I was in Israel two years ago. Oh, well, so what did you do after high school?   Kay Thompson ** 18:30 Oh, after high school, interesting. So remember when I was telling you about the school thing? So I was in and out of school. I went to I started college in New Jersey. Where did you I went to Rutgers University. Rutgers, yeah, well, first I started in New Brunswick. Then I came back because we lived closer to Camden. We lived we lived in New Jersey, closer to Philadelphia. Philadelphia was about 20 minutes away.   Michael Hingson ** 18:57 Mm, okay, I lived in, I lived in Westfield, New Jersey. So we were out route 22 from New York, about 15 miles. So we were in the north central part of the state, okay, South North part, or whatever, of the state.   Kay Thompson ** 19:11 Okay, okay, yeah. Well, yeah. First it was in New Brunswick. I was there. And then after I did that, I went for about a semester, and then I transferred over to Hampton University, because both my parents went to Hampton, so I said Hampton didn't stay there, and then I ended up coming back and going to Rutgers in Camden, and there I completed my degree. Took me eight years to complete it. What   Michael Hingson ** 19:42 did you get your degree in?   Kay Thompson ** 19:43 I got my degree in art history and sculpture. So, okay, yeah, and I love what I did. I you know, I had a museum work. Loved working in a museum, and could tell you about all the i. You know, the art, the sculpture, just loved it. But it took me a minute to get that then. And then, after that, I went to, I moved to Atlanta in 92 the end of 92 so after high school, you know, just a lot of challenges, just trying to figure out who I was and what did you do. You know, how I wished I would have, now, looking back on it, I wish I would have, maybe when I got out of high school, just taking some time off first. And because in my heart, I knew I, I knew I, I knew I didn't want to go to school, but I knew I needed to go. I knew there was something in me that said, you you need to go to school. But mentally, I don't think I was mentally prepared for it, for for the you know, because when you get out of high school, and you go into college, it's a unless you take AP courses in high school, you're not prepared for the amount of work you're going to get inundated with. And it was just overwhelming to me. It took all my time. I felt like I was that person. I had to keep reading things over and over again just to get it, I used to have to, not only did I take, you know, what friend of mine calls copious notes, but then I also had to put it over in index cards. And you know, it just took me a long time because my heart wasn't in it at the time. So I ended up meeting a gentleman, my first husband. We were married, we had a son, and then, but he passed away, I think, when my son was about three, and then that's when, okay, okay. Now, you know you now, now, now. I wanted to go. Now I wanted to finish. So it was   Michael Hingson ** 22:00 your it was your husband that passed away. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, all right, so then you decided you really needed to to do school.   Kay Thompson ** 22:12 Yeah, I needed to complete it. So that's what pushed me to complete it, leaving   Michael Hingson ** 22:17 the major aside of sculpture and art and his art history and so on. If you were to summarize it, what did college teach you?   Kay Thompson ** 22:30 Oh, that's a great question. What did college teach me? Well, you know, it taught me that, you know, I think we just need to, well, you need to know how to focus. It's really was a disciplining moment in my life. I was an Army brat. You know this bottom line, I was an Army brat even though I felt like I didn't get a whole lot of things that I wanted. In reality, I had a, like a kind of a spoiled mentality. And when I got to college, I realized that this stuff is not going to be handed to me, you know, you're not going to be handed an a you know, I'm not going to do your studying for you, you know. And so helping me to kind of detach from things I had just depended on for so long. But in that transition, it became very lonely. College was very lonely. I mean, even when I left, because I got out of when I first went to Rutgers and cam in New Brunswick, right out of high school. I had, I was at the dorm, and I wasn't ready for a dorm. I wasn't ready for that life because, you know, I left almost before the semester was over and I had to go and make up the classes. And, you know, thankfully, they allowed me to make up some of my you know, majority well. As a matter of fact, they let me make them all up, but I still had to put in the work. And that was my thing, putting in the work, putting in the work and doing things that I didn't necessarily like. Because even though I liked art and I like sculpture and all that. There were other classes that I had to take, like humanities and algebra, you know, and history, you know, not not art history, but you know, American history, European history, and all these different other subjects, these other prerequisites or curriculum that you have to take. And I didn't always enjoy those and other I don't want to do that, but no, you actually have to do it. So I'm going to say that college really helped me learn about disciplining myself to do things that I don't necessarily like, but they are required of me,   Michael Hingson ** 24:58 and I. But I would tell you, if you asked me the same question, that would be my answer. It really taught me a lot about discipline. It taught me also to realize that I really did like inappropriately so adventure and exploration and being curious and so on. I also found that my best college courses were the ones, no matter what the subject was or whether I really enjoyed it or not, were the ones where I had good teachers who really could teach and who were concerned about students and interacting with students, rather than just giving you assignments, because they then wanted to go off and do their thing. But I liked good teachers, and I went to the University of California at Irvine, and had, very fortunately, a lot of good teachers who encouraged discipline and being able to function in unexpected ways and and they also pointed out how to recognize like if you're doing something right, like in physics, when my Masters is in physics, one of the First things that one of my professors said is, if you've got to get the right answer, but the right answer isn't just getting the right numbers, like if you are trying to compute acceleration, which we know is 16 feet per second squared, or 9.8 meters per second squared. That's not right. Anyway, 3232 feet per second, or 9.8 meters per second, it isn't enough to get the 32 feet or or the 9.8 meters. You've got to get meters per second squared. Because that never mind why it is, but that is, that is the physics term for acceleration, so it isn't enough to get the numbers, which is another way of saying that they taught me to really pay attention to the details. Yeah, which was cool. And I'm hearing from you sort of the same thing, which is great, but, but then you went to college, and you majored in what you did, and so did you work in the museum part of the time while you were in college?   Kay Thompson ** 27:31 Well, what happened is, I had an art history teacher who just took a, I guess, a liking to me, because I was very enthusiastic about what I did, because I love what I did. And I had a writing background, because I had a mother who was an English teacher. So all my life, I was constantly being edited. So I came in with pretty good grammar and pretty good way to I had a writing I had a talent for writing in a way that the academic were looking for, that art history kind of so I knew how to write that way, and she hired me to help her. She was a professor that did, you know, lectures, and she hired me, paid me out of her own salary, kind of like a work study. And so I worked for her about 20 hours a week, just filing slides and, you know, helping her with whatever she needed, because she was the chair of the department. So that was a great opportunity. I was able to work with her and and maybe feel good to know if somebody thought, you know enough of you know what I did to to hire me, and feel like I I could contribute, and that I was trusted to be able to handle some of these things. I mean, you know, and I don't know how difficult it is to file slides, but you know, when it teacher wants to do a lecture, and back then they were these little, small, little, you know, square slides. Square slides drop into the projector, right? And she's looking for, you know, the temple of Nike. You know, she wants to find it in order. You know, you pull that slide and you put it in your projector, right, carousel, right, yes, yes. So that's what I did, and it was great. I loved it. I learned college. I loved I loved the college atmosphere. I loved being in that vein, and I think I really found my niche when I was when I went to Rutgers in Camden.   Michael Hingson ** 29:48 Well, there's a history lesson sports fans, because now, of course, it's all PowerPoint. But back then, as Kay is describing it, when you wanted to project things you had. Slides. So they were pictures, they were films, and they were all these little squares, maybe two inches square, and you put them in a carousel, and you put them in the projector, and every time you push the button, it would go to the next slide, or you could go back the other way. So PowerPoint is only making it a little bit more electronic, but the same concept is still there. So there, there I dealt with slides. So after college, you, you did time at the university, at the museum, I gather,   Kay Thompson ** 30:31 okay. So what happened with the museum after I graduated from college, immediately I moved to New Jersey, yeah, you know, right? I'm gonna say probably about six months, six months to a year before college, is when my first husband died, and then after I graduated, um, I moved to New Jersey first. Where did you graduate from? Again, Rutgers University in Camden. Okay, so   Michael Hingson ** 30:59 that's New Jersey so you, but after college, you moved,   Kay Thompson ** 31:03 I moved to Georgia, Georgia that   Michael Hingson ** 31:06 that makes more sense. Okay, okay,   Kay Thompson ** 31:08 okay, sorry, yeah, so I moved to Georgia, and immediately, when we came to Georgia, you know my I came with a gentleman who I married shortly after, I moved to Georgia and we opened a art gallery. We were entrepreneurs. We came because, you know, there was, we felt like there was more opportunity in Georgia for small business owners, or would be potential small business owners, or people who wanted to realize their dream. And we know that in Georgia now, I don't know if you know this, but Georgia is a great place for entrepreneurs, so definitely better than where I was at the time. So we packed the U haul and just threw everything in there and came to Atlanta. Now my the gentleman who would be my husband. So I just say my husband now, then he, he had a sister here, so we visited first with her, and that's how we got to really see the scene, check out the scene, and then we came back and moved and found our own place and everything like that. So but when we came, I opened it, I had an art gallery for about a year or so, little bit longer and but that didn't work out. Didn't, you know, just, you know, some things you tried. Just yeah, just didn't work. But then my husband and now just FYI for you, this person, the second person, I married, the second man. He passed away too, but that was in 2008 but so he's my late husband too. So I have two, two husbands that passed away. One was the first one was much younger, and my second husband. We were married for 16 years. This is early on in our relationship. We he he opened a brass outlet, a just all kinds of beautiful black brass vases and animals and just anything brass you wanted. But also, after I shut down the museum I had or the gallery, it was an art gallery, I moved my pieces into his brass outlet, and there I was able to kind of display them and sell them. We had pieces that range from, you know, $25 to $500 so we I found a little space there that I could do my work. So it was a nice little coupling.   Michael Hingson ** 33:43 Yeah, I'm with you. Uh huh. So so you, you have obviously moved on from from doing a lot of that, because now you have other endeavors, as we mentioned at the beginning, being a minister, an entrepreneur, an author and so on. So how did you transition from just doing art to doing some of the things that you do today?   Kay Thompson ** 34:18 Okay, so what happened is when I came to and I guess this is the really, deeply more personal aspect of it all, when, when I came to Atlanta again, my my first husband had passed away. He committed suicide. Yeah, so when I came to Atlanta, my second husband and I were not yet married, and all I knew is that I wanted the relationship not to be the way the first one was, in a sense of. I I didn't want to go through that specific kind of trauma again and and not that the the two gentlemen were similar. They were very different people. My second husband was a very confident, very strong willed, you know, type of a person, but the trauma and my first husband, he had his own strength in, you know, but there's something that happens when you decide, you know, to end your life. Yeah, I wanted to make sure that I had some sort of support, divine support, because the going through something like that, and when I say something like that, not only am I talking about the suicide, but the fact that he was On we were on the phone together when this happened, so and then just dealing with everything that happened around it, you can imagine someone feeling a little bit insecure, unsure. So I really began to seek God for that relationship that I know would sustain me. I had grown up, you know, my parents grew up, they brought us to church. You know, I wouldn't say my parents were they weren't ministers, but they were active in whatever church they went to, and they made sure that we went to church every Sunday, even the Vacation Bible School. I can remember that in New Jersey, I remember, you know, them just being a very, very involved. My my parents. My mother was a singer, so she sang a lot in the choir, lot of solos. My father was a deacon. They both became elders, and elders, meaning they were just senior members of ministry. Because elder in the I'm in a non denominational ministry now, but elder is another way of saying a ordained male Minister their particular denomination, an elder was, you know, almost you might want to say like a trustee, so, but they were root, they they were they were integral to their church, And they were really foundational members. And so I just remember that impact on my life, and so I needed to make sure I had that grounding, and I knew I didn't have it because I was doing any and everything I wanted to do. You know, one of the reasons my my second husband, said, You know, he, I was the one for him, is because we had a drinking competition and I beat him, you know, we were taking shots, and I beat him. And so, you know that that was something that, you know, he said, Oh, you're, you know, girl, you're the one for me. And so that was our life, running, you know, we did a lot of. We entertained. We, you know, we did a lot of partying, as you say, a lot of having a great time. We were living our best life, right? So I knew I wasn't living a life that I could tell, Hey, God, see my life, Aren't you proud? It wasn't that life I was living. I wasn't, you know, doing biblical things. I wasn't living life, right? So I needed to make sure when I came to New Jersey, I mean, when I came to Atlanta from New Jersey with this gentleman that I had not yet married, I said, Lord, you know, help me make the right decision. And I'd say we could be moved to to Georgia in it's something like January, February. Okay, we got married about two months later, and then a month after that, I was pregnant with my daughter. So things being that, it happened very fast. But one thing about it is, of course, when you're pregnant, as a woman, you know, you can't do this. I couldn't do the things that I was doing before, right? The partying, smoking, the drinking, all of that, you know, for the sake of the child. You know, you just can't do it. So I went through a terrible withdrawal. Yeah, it was, it was pretty bad and and the only refuge I had was the church. So that's how I really got into the church. And once I got into the church, I had, I had been in the church before I had made a decision. Decision when I was about, I'm going to say about five, five or six years prior to that, I had given my life to the Lord. I had, you know, come into a relationship with the Lord, but life happened, and I got out of it. You know, I quickly kind of got out of it. And so for many years, I was just doing my own thing. So again, when, when, when we came to Georgia, I got pregnant, got married, going through with the withdrawals. I just, you know, I just went back into the church, uh, rekindled that relationship. Or, or the Bible says that he, he, he's with loving kindness. Has he drawn you? So he really drew me back based on my need. And so I came back to the church and got really, really involved in ministry. And as I got involved, I just kind of threw myself into it, because I could not do the previous things I did. And then even after I had my my second child, it's a daughter, so I have a son and a daughter, I had to live a life that was good for   Michael Hingson ** 41:05 them. And what did your husband think of all that?   Kay Thompson ** 41:09 Oh, yeah. Well, first he thought I had joined a cult. Okay, yeah, that's so that was his first impression. So he came to the church because he wanted to see who these cult members were that were drawing away his wife. And when he came, he got kind of hooked to the church, yeah? But our our faith was never at the same level. You know? He came because of me. I came because of of God, right? And I don't know if he ever really, I don't think he ever really got to that level that I did, where I was just gung ho. Everything was, you know, I was a Jesus girl. I was a holy roller, you know. And he did it for us. He did it for, you know, task sake, because he was a task oriented person. But he came, he came to be a very like my parents. He came to be very important part of the church. He was a deacon. He was faithful. He loved our leaders. He served with faith and integrity. But when it came to that, you know, deep seated personal relationship with God, where you know God, I just give you everything you know that that was mine. That was what I did. So we differed in that respect, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 42:35 well, well, hopefully though, in in the long run, you said he's passed. I assume it was not a suicide.   Kay Thompson ** 42:45 No, no,   Michael Hingson ** 42:46 Ben that he is. He is moving on in that faith. So that's a hopeful   Kay Thompson ** 42:53 thing. Yeah, I believe he is. He had congestive heart failure and he passed away. And, yeah, I believe he he's now at rest, enjoying his rest. Yes, there   Michael Hingson ** 43:06 you go. So when did he pass in 2008 Okay, so that was 17 years ago. Okay, yep, well, so you were very involved in the church. And I suppose in some senses, it's probably a question that is reasonably obvious, but then I'll still ask, how did you get into the ministry from being very heavily involved in church, and when did that happen?   Kay Thompson ** 43:38 Okay, so one day our church. You know, the churches we have depending on, I guess, your faith or leaders do in the beginning of each year, we have a 21 day consecration, which we do in January, throughout the month of January. You know they might say, okay, 21 for 21 days. Read these scriptures, and we're going to fast from, you know, sweets, meats, or, you know, whatever the directive is. And so we was in a 21 day fast, and that was at my home one day. It was in the middle of the night, and I distinctly heard a call to preach. And that's really how the it all began. I mean, I knew, you know, the Bible says that, you know, even with Jeremiah and Jeremiah one, he says, Before the foundation, you know, before your mother and your father, you know, were together, I have already called you. I already ordained you. So I heard this call to preach, very distinct call, and at that point, I told my pastor, and from that point, I was kind of groomed, and as time went on, I was given more responsibility. Uh, you know, praying, or every now and then, preaching, doing Bible study. The next thing I know, I took my licensing exam, I was licensed, and then after that, I went through ordination, and I was ordained, and that's how it really began. And it was something I really took to heart, because I didn't want to disappoint God again. I didn't want to backslide again. Because, you know, I strongly believed in the faith, and I believe in the faith, and I believe in the power of Jesus, and I didn't want to be that person that Okay. Today I'm going to be faithful to the God and to His Word. But then, you know, then on the next day, you know, you're finding me, you know, yeah, in the liquor store, or, you know, this, doing this, or, you know, in the club. I didn't want to be that person. Yeah, I was, I was sincere, and I was very gung ho, and I wanted to live out this life. I wanted to see what the calling was going to be in my life. And I loved ministry. I loved the word, because I was already an art historian. So I loved history. And so the Bible is all you know, it's something history. It's history. Yeah, it's relevant. History to me, it's alive and active, sure. So it was perfect. It was a perfect pairing for me, and that that's really been my pursuit many these years.   Michael Hingson ** 46:37 So when did you become a minister?   Kay Thompson ** 46:41 Actually, when I, when I was telling you about that fast and when I heard the word preach, essentially when I heard that word preach between me and God, that was when I became a minister. Time wise. When was that time wise? Okay, that was probably 94 Okay. I Yeah, all right.   Michael Hingson ** 47:00 So you were, you were clearly a preacher during a lot of the time with your your second husband, and so on, and, and I am so glad that he at least did explore and and and learn so much. So that's a that's a cool thing. But you've also done some other things. You deal with real estate, you're a TV show host, you're an author and well, business owner, yeah, but I want to, I want to learn more about some of those. But what kind of challenges have you faced in the ministry?   Kay Thompson ** 47:42 Yeah. I would say some of the challenges are, you know, when you're in ministry, you have to preach or get yourself prepared for going before the people. It can be a very lonely lifestyle, yeah, yeah, even, even if you're married, even if you have children, it could still be a lonely and and demanding in its own right, because there is a mandate over your life to live and not according to what you see trending now. And, you know, when I, when I first got started in ministry there, the Internet was not the way it is now. No, no, definitely. Because, I mean, it was in 2000 that I got ordained. And I'm going to say the ministry had been, you know, it was just really starting to, I don't know you guess, she said, make waves. That's when all of the big evangelists were coming out, like, you know, the TD Jakes, the Paula white and the Benny Hinn and the Juanita Biden. That is around that time when those generation of preachers were really at the forefront, correct, low dollar and, you know, Bishop, Carlton, Pearson and Rod Parsley and all these, these names. That's when it really began to really pick up steam. And so that was the error that I started off in. And you wanted to be a person. You wanted to be relevant, but at the same token, you just trying to find that balance between family and ministry and and regular life. You know, can sometimes be really challenging, and I had to learn a lot about the order of things. You know, first it's God, then it's family, and then it's ministry. That's the order. But a lot of times we mix up God and ministry. So what we think is, you know, and. Aspect of things that we think that are God, that are actually ministry, and they supersede your family. That's where you know you can really run into some trouble. So that balance between those different aspects of my life, it was difficult, and then as a person who had a a more a prophetic, a revelatory call. On top of that, God is showing you things about people, about, you know, situations that you don't necessarily ask to know about, you know. And the Bible says, you know, with much knowledge can often come sorrow, you know. And that's when you begin to see God really unveiling and revealing things about people and about yourself. Because you have to be able to, you have to be able to look at yourself and not get too self righteous, right? If God is showing you these things. But in the same token, you don't want to, you know, you say, Okay, God, you're showing me this. What do you want me to do with this? And you know, somebody else might say, Okay, you need to go tell that person what God showed you. You know, I saw you doing this. You better stop, you know, doing this. And then, you know, so busy pointing the finger. Yeah, but you have to remember, you know, and it's, it may be cliches, but you've got three pointing back at you. And so there is, you know, you you've gotta be able to stay humble and yet still balance your family and still, you know, uh, not think yourself to be more than what you are, and yet realize that God has called you to do more in ministry than the average person. So yeah, it can be challenging, but I wouldn't change it for anything.   Michael Hingson ** 51:55 It can be a challenge, but at the same time, you clearly were called to do it, and you work at keeping perspective, and I think that's the important thing, which goes back to college, which helped you learn a lot of discipline, and you get to use that discipline in a different way, perhaps, than you right, you figured out in college. But discipline is discipline, yeah. Well, how did you then get into something like the media and start being a TV show host and those kinds of things?   Kay Thompson ** 52:26 Yeah, so I have a wonderful, wonderful pastor who really takes time to work with their their members and find out what your gifts are, what your talents are, and use them. And so I So, let's just say so I was an artist. Okay, bottom line, I was a sculptor, painter, award winning painter, by the way. Let me just tell you now, you know the first or second painting I did, I entered it into a contest at the college, and I won an award, so I had a gift for this design, but in my time we were transitioning to graphic design, graphic design became the big thing, and I never had if I had the aptitude to do computer science, which, bless his soul, my beautiful son is a computer scientist, right, you know, but that gene, this, that gene, skip right on over me. I was not the math person, and when you said physicist, I said, Hmm, that that, you know, that gene just, just totally went around me,   Michael Hingson ** 53:41 yeah, so you don't know anything about 32 feet per second squared anyway, no,   Kay Thompson ** 53:45 I'm about to say, I trust you, whatever you say, you know, and it's the funny thing is, my father was a mathematician, my older brother was a chemical engineer, and Me, you know that I struggle just to pass geometry. Okay, so no, I was the artsy person.   Michael Hingson ** 54:07 Um, that's fine, but I was, yeah. How'd that get you to the media?   Kay Thompson ** 54:12 Yeah, so I was going to say, so, the combination what happened is my pastor knew a pastor who was looking for a part time job, looking for someone to have a part time job, because he had a he had his own publishing company in his house. He at the time he was he published a book that we talked about church growth. And this was at the time when the Purpose Driven Life, The Purpose Driven Life was a purpose driven church came out. It was a huge success. And he the same thing happened with him here in Atlanta, but no publishing company wanted to take. Make his story, because that's the, you know, the whole the society was inundated with this purpose driven church, you know, it was already written about. It was already done. They didn't want his story. So he decided to create his own publishing company, and it was in the basement of his mansion, and he was looking for someone to be the secretary. So I came in that I was, it was a friend of a friend of friend. They hired me, and I started working for him as a as a secretary. And then they would bring these books over, and he would, you know, send them out to be edited, and then bring them back. And then I would have to mail it out to the to the printer and one of the books one day, and I saw it, and I noticed there were still typos in it. I said, Sir, there's still typos in your book. Oh, really, yeah. And he had already paid this person $1,000 so I went back through it, found all these typos, and that's how I got into publishing, publishing my own books and and everything like that. But then one day, my pastor said, Hey, Kay, why don't you do a radio show? I was like, okay, sure, right, because I had met so many people in ministry from doing their books. So I called the radio station, the local am station, and I said, Hey, how much does it cost to do a show, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was sponsored by my pastor and some other people, and I started a 30 minute show every week. It was called personalities, profiles and perspectives, the three teams, and I would interview people, gospel artists, pastors, you know, just politicians, you know, just people. I would reach out to them. Next thing I know, I got hired by a station in another station in Atlanta. It was called wg, I don't know if you remember, well, you, you probably don't, because you're not from Atlanta, right? But it was W G, U N, 10:10am, in Atlanta, the biggest am station aside from WSB radio, which is WSB 750 the major news network, right? WGN, 1010. Was a huge station, and I got hired by them. I was a DJ. It was a gospel station, and I ended up being the program director, and did a lot of, you know, voiceovers. I did shows, I did production. That's how I got into radio. And I loved it. I loved radio. I loved anything to do with media. It was just I knew it. I got bit with the bug when they opened up that hot mic. That was it. I was in my element. So that's how I got into radio. And then you went to TV. And then I went to TV, yeah, went to TV. Well, what happened is, I was writing books, and there is a station here in Atlanta, W ATC TV 57 and they interview people all over, actually, all over the country. You can come from wherever we know, we've had big names, you know, all kinds of people and local people. And that's one thing about it, is that local people in ministry could go there. They could sing, if they were music artists, they could, you know, talk about their books, talk about their ministry. And so I went on and talked about my book, and next thing I know, I got called in to be a host, and so I've been hosting now for about five years. Wow. You know, on and off. You know, the the show has different hosts each, and I do a couple of times a month. Okay, I'll actually be on there shortly, again in a few days. So   Michael Hingson ** 58:57 tell us about your books. You've mentioned books several times. Did you publish your own books? Okay, so tell us about your books.   Kay Thompson ** 59:06 So yeah, the first four books, well, I've done I've had four books which were on prophecy. The the main title is prophecy in the 21st Century. And then I did four different volumes. The first one was the role of prophecy in the new millennium. And basically that one was written in, I'm going to say around 2012 somewhere about 2012 and it talks about the relevance of prophecy with regard to the millennial generation, and how this you can help steer direct and go alongside millennial mindset, millennial and many millennial aspects of this generation. And then the second book was also the set under the same volume, the same name. Prophecy in the 21st Century, the role of and the second the first one is the role of prophecy in the new millennium. The second one was prophetic healing. And prophetic healing talks about prophecy and healing in the Bible and how prophetic people who operate in the prophetic can help bring forth, healing, societal, healing, relational, healing, physical, healing, financial. And then the third one was about prophetic women. And these are women in the Bible that had a prophetic calling, not necessarily called a prophetess, but display those characteristics of women that operate in Revelation and that sort of gift. And then the fourth one was called the leadership mandate, and it talks about leader and how leaders navigate in the prophetic arena and the characteristics that people ought to have, and leaders in the Bible that also operated in that revelation or that. And then the last book I wrote was called the 30 names, or not the but 30 Names of God, because there are so many more names that God is known by. But I chose 30 names that really stood out to me as what God has called. You know Jehovah Gabor. You know the warrior one fights for us. You know Jehovah Jireh, of course, we know that's our provider. Mm, hmm, Jehovah Rapha, our healer. So I found 30 names that really stood out to me, and I spoke about those in that book. So those are the books that I have, and then I've got another book that will be coming out within the next year, and and it is about healing. So those are my books, and I've published those books. And not only do I, I didn't start off publishing my own books. I started off publishing for other people, right? Because the more I worked in that field, the more I found that I could do better financially if I did it myself. Yeah, so and I, and I, one thing about it is that as a result of being an artist, that the graphic design, computer graphics, came really easy to me, I'll bet. So, yeah, so someone could hand me a manuscript. I had the editing skills right for my mother. So I could edit your book. I could create the design. I could format it. I You. Hand me your manuscript, I hand you back your finished product. So for me, you know, the cheapest person that you know, I pay the least amount because so I can publish as many books as I could write, probably, you know, but that's how I really got started doing that, and then I began to do it for other people, other leaders, other pastors, friends, you know, just people that want that service. I provide that service. And so that's how that really got started.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:12 Now we don't have a lot of time, but I just curious. You also do something in real estate.   Kay Thompson ** 1:03:19 I do, yeah, I I got my license in 2005 and maybe one year, maybe one year, and then I got out of it right away. Life happened, and then I came back in 2022, and began to did it full time. And so I love it. I love real estate. Right now I'm in residential, but I do some commercial, and the ultimate goal is to do mostly commercial and to have a space. The goal for commercial is to really help others entrepreneurs who are interested in having businesses offline, giving them an opportunity to have a space that is little to nothing, and that's one of the ways that I really want to give back, is to be able to offer that opportunity for people out there to help others to achieve that same goal. And so I believe in entrepreneur. I've been an entrepreneur for 17 years now. So, yeah, have a heart for that. So I want to see other people get through that challenge and be successful. So, and I know it takes money,   Michael Hingson ** 1:04:37 but in real estate helps.   Kay Thompson ** 1:04:39 It definitely helps. Yeah? Well, real estate is constantly going up, you know, even if the market is down and even if finances are down, real estate is something that is immovable,   Michael Hingson ** 1:04:52 so go back up.   Speaker 1 ** 1:04:54 Yeah, yeah, for sure, and   Michael Hingson ** 1:04:57 you clearly enjoy everything that you're. Doing, which is the important thing, yes, I have that is that is really cool, and I am so glad that we had a chance to talk about all this, needless to say, and I want to thank you for being on unstoppable mindset. Clearly, you have an unstoppable mindset, and you exhibited in so many ways. So I really want to thank you, but I also want to thank all of you for listening out there, wherever you happen to be, if you'd like to reach out to KK, how can people find you?   Kay Thompson ** 1:05:31 They can go to my website. It is my name, K Thompson, dot, O, R, G, all my books are there? Contact information, some of my podcasts. You can watch some of Atlanta live the videos of the shows. It's all on my website,   Michael Hingson ** 1:05:49 all right, and that's in in the notes and so on. So, k, a, y, T, H, O, M, P, S O, n.org, correct. So hope that you'll all go there and and check Kay out and and communicate with her. I'm sure that she would love, and I would love to know what you think and get your thoughts about today. So please feel free to email me at Michael, H, I m, I C, H, A, E, L, H i at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, I B, e.com, wherever you're observing our podcast today, please give us a five star rating. We value very highly your reviews, and we, of course, love them most when you give us a five star review. So please do that. And Kay, for you and for everyone who is out there today, if you know anyone else who ought to be on unstoppable mindset, I would really appreciate it if you'd introduce us and we will bring them on the podcast, because we're always looking for people who have stories to tell about their lives and being unstoppable. So please don't hesitate to let us know. You can also go to our podcast page, which is Michael hingson, M, I, C, H, A, E, L, H, I N, G, s o n.com/podcast, so we'd love you to do that as well. But again, really appreciate all you being out there and listening to us and and I'm sure you you like, like, I have gotten some wonderful things out of talking with case. Okay, once again, I want to thank you for being here. This has been absolutely wonderful.   Kay Thompson ** 1:07:22 Well, thank you. I really enjoyed it. I appreciate you asking me to be here and just so glad to be able to share with you today your audience. Really appreciate it.   Michael Hingson ** 1:07:37 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. While you're on the site., please use the form there to recommend people who we ought to interview in upcoming editions of the show. And also, we ask you and urge you to invite your friends to join us in the future. If you know of any one or any organization needing a speaker for an event, please email me at speaker at Michael hingson.com. I appreciate it very much. To learn more about the concept of blinded by fear, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com forward slash blinded by fear and while you're there, feel free to pick up a copy of my free eBook entitled blinded by fear. The unstoppable mindset podcast is provided by access cast an initiative of accessiBe and is sponsored by accessiBe. Please visit www.accessibe.com . AccessiBe is spelled a c c e s s i b e. There you can learn all about how you can make your website inclusive for all persons with disabilities and how you can help make the internet fully inclusive by 2025. Thanks again for Listening. Please come back and visit us again next week.

In Search of... “The Siberian Fireball” Recorded: 17 Aug 2025 Edited: 17 & 28 Aug 2025 Released: 29 August 2025 Links: Leonid Kulik - Wikipedia Tunguska event - Wikipedia Meteoroid, Not Comet, Explains the 1908 Tunguska Fireball - Discover Magazine - 01 July 2013 Fire Came by: Riddle of the Great Siberian Explosion, 1908 (John Baxter and Thomas Atkins) What Really Happened at Tunguska - Skeptoid #803 The Tunguska Event - TV Tropes First-Hand Eyewitness Accounts May Shed New Light On The Tunguska Event Tunguska: A Siberian Mystery and Its Environmental Legacy (Studies in Environment and History) I Want to Rewatch - The X-Files - Season 4, Episode 8: “Tunguska” While there does not seem to be a cocktail called “The Siberian Fireball” (c'mon, it's like y'all aren't even trying out there in bartenderland), we did come up with something for the adventurous... The “Siberian Fireball” Cocktail! Music: “Dark Science” by David Hilowitz “The Truth Is What We Make of It” by The Agrarians All our episodes are at iwtrw.com (or at iwanttorewatch.com, if you want to type more letters for some reason). Links for everything else I Want To Rewatch-related (including our sweet merch) are at the IWTRW Bio Site.

Getting ISO 27001 certified can feel overwhelming—but the right roadmap changes everything. In this masterclass episode, InfosecTrain brings you a clear, step-by-step guide to mastering the ISO 27001:2022 audit process. From preparation to certification, you'll learn how to build a solid foundation, anticipate audit requirements, and avoid common pitfalls that derail many organizations.Whether you're stepping into your first audit or guiding your company toward compliance excellence, this episode will give you the confidence and clarity to succeed. Learn practical strategies for planning, execution, and continuous improvement—all designed to help you achieve certification without the guesswork. Tune in and let InfosecTrain be your trusted partner in navigating the journey from audit readiness to certification excellence.

Join us in this episode as Podcast listener J. shares about his recovery in SAA, his experience being arrested for CSM and thoughts on living amends. Also a great River analogy to being swept up into the tide of addiction.   Since suicide was mentioned in this episode, if you are in suicidal crisis or emotional distress, reach out to the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline in the US by dialing 988. https://988lifeline.org   Be sure to reach us via email: feedback@sexaddictsrecoverypod.com If you are comfortable and interested in being a guest or panelist, please feel free to contact me. jason@sexaddictsrecoverypod.com SARPodcast YouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn0dcZg-Ou7giI4YkXGXsBWDHJgtymw9q   To find meetings in the San Francisco Bay Area, be sure to visit: https://www.bayareasaa.org/meetings To find meetings in the your local area or online, be sure to visit the main SAA website: https://saa-recovery.org/meetings/   The content of this podcast has not been approved by and may not reflect the opinions or policies of the ISO of SAA, Inc.

Today's guest is Oisin Boydell, Chief Data Officer at Cortytics. One of the most pressing challenges within Artificial Intelligence remains regulation and compliance. As AI technology advances, businesses face the dual task of keeping pace with these changes while ensuring they remain compliant with regulations that are themselves in constant flux. In this podcast, Oisin sheds light on these challenges and the ways AI can aid compliance professionals.Topics include:0:00 His journey from From broad AI at Ceadar to compliance-focused AI at Corlytics1:56 How AI assists humans in managing complex, evolving regulations4:33 Ensuring ethical, trustworthy AI governance and compliance with ISO 420017:35 How AI assists compliance teams while humans retain final oversight10:51 AI's role in helping track and interpret rapidly changing regulations11:59 Helping businesses navigate and prove compliance with regulations12:47 How LLMs excel in interpreting nuanced, semi-structured legal language14:01 Why AI democratization lets non-experts use tools efficiently14:54 Why AI literacy is crucial to prevent a technology divide18:21 Book recommendations that explores technology's societal impact19:36 While AI's impact is unpredictable; regulation and literacy are crucial

Step into the "97 Mentality" with Ern and Iso as they break down the raw truths of hip-hop, loyalty, and the grind.

Welcome back to "Forcepoint: To the Point Cybersecurity." In this episode, hosts Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher are joined by Walter Haydock, founder and CEO of Stackaware. Walter brings a unique perspective from his time in the Marine Corps and Homeland Security, and now leads the charge in AI governance and risk management. Today's conversation dives deep into the maze of AI regulation, focusing on the newly emerging ISO 42001 standard and what compliance really means for organizations. Walter unpacks the complexities facing companies as they navigate a patchwork of state, national, and international laws—highlighting the challenges and opportunities presented by Colorado's groundbreaking AI legislation and Europe's evolving approach. Tune in as they discuss how to build a solid foundation for digital transformation, the three layers of AI risk, and the importance of transparency and clear policy in responsible AI adoption. If you're a CISO, security professional, or just curious about what the future holds for AI governance and cybersecurity, this episode is packed with practical insights and thought-provoking analysis. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at https://www.forcepoint.com/govpodcast/e347

The first episode of Standard Chartered's new podcast series explores how ISO 20022's richer data formats and standardised messages can improve compliance and risk management in correspondent banking flows.  We cover the benefits which makes the process more effective, as well as sanctions screening, fraud detection and AML checks.

At the heart of every successful machine shop isn't just the parts it produces—it's the experience it delivers to its clients. In this episode of MakingChips (part of our Machine Shop MBA series), we sit down with Andy Reinwald, President of Ripley Machine, to unpack what it really takes to deliver an excellent client experience in manufacturing. Andy shares his journey of stepping into leadership at a young age, navigating the challenges of declining sales, and transforming Ripley Machine into a recognized Top Shops award winner. His story proves that client experience doesn't happen by accident—it's built intentionally through systems, communication, and values that shape the culture of the entire shop. From implementing ISO and ProShop ERP, to instilling a daily rhythm of accountability and continuous improvement, Andy reveals the practical steps his team has taken to turn Ripley into a trusted partner for its customers. Along the way, he highlights how something as simple as quick communication—or as complex as restructuring internal systems—can make all the difference in retaining clients and earning their loyalty. Whether you're a seasoned shop owner or just starting out, this conversation will challenge you to look at your business through the lens of your customers. Because at the end of the day, consistency, transparency, and responsiveness aren't just “nice to have”—they are the foundation of growth and profitability. Segments (0:32) How Phoenix Heat Treating provides next-level transparency (2:18) Why client experience is the capstone of the Machine Shop MBA series (3:39) Introducing guest Andy Reinwald of Ripley Machine (5:00) Family business history, early days in the shop, and finding a passion for manufacturing (8:47) Becoming shop foreman at 19, buying the business at 21, and facing business challenges (12:11) Lessons learned: Poor customer experiences and the wake-up call (17:26) The values of transparency, accessibility, and responsiveness (20:00) Practical changes: communication, customer-specific notes, quoting with Paperless Parts, and implementing ProShop ERP (27:04) Investing in ProShop is an investment in your shop (28:39) The power of quick, honest communication and technology that supports it (35:05) Building culture: consistency, details that matter, and systems that allow Andy to step away (37:23) How Andy roots his business values on his faith (39:10) Going above and beyond for customers (42:38) How Andy hires according to a fit for his culture (44:54) Implementing daily drumbeat meetings and lean principles (50:04) Ripley Machine's Top Shops award journey and continuous improvement (55:42) Joins us at the Top Shops 2025 Conference in Charlotte, NC Resources mentioned on this episode Could Phoenix Heat Treating solve your bottleneck? Investing in ProShop is an investment in your shop Joins us at the Top Shops 2025 Conference in Charlotte, NC Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

ISO implementation needs an effective management system and proactive staff. How is each ISO standard implemented in the individual industry? To read more visit https://www.quality-assurance.com/blog/how-does-iso-implementation-by-industry-work-details-to-follow.html

The "UN" told stories, and this episode is PACKED with real talk, engaging discussions, and hip-hop history

  With so many options out there - peppermint oil, ginger, turmeric, collagen, probiotics, magnesium, greens powder and more - it's hard to know what's hype and what's helpful.   In this episode of The Gut Show, we talk about supplements vs medications, what to consider before starting a supplement, and where to find trustworthy information.   Mentioned in this episode: Poop Personality Quiz MASTER Method Membership   Thank you to our partners: FODZYME is the world's first enzyme supplement specialized to target FODMAPs. When sprinkled on or mixed with high-FODMAP meals, FODZYME's novel patent-pending enzyme blend breaks down fructan, GOS and lactose before they can trigger bloating, gas and other digestive issues. With FODZYME, enjoy garlic, onion, wheat, Brussels sprouts, beans, dairy and more — worry free! Discover the power of FODZYME's digestive enzyme blend and eat the foods you love and miss. Visit fodzyme.com and save 20% off your first order with code THEGUTSHOW. One use per customer.   This episode is made possible with support from Ardelyx.   Gemelli Biotech offers trusted, science-backed at-home tests for conditions like SIBO, IMO, ISO, and post-infectious IBS.  Their Trio-Smart breath test measures all three key gases: hydrogen, methane, and hydrogen sulfide to detect different forms of microbial overgrowth. And for those with IBS symptoms, IBS-Smart is a simple blood test that can confirm post-infectious IBS with clinical accuracy. You simply order the test, complete it at home, send it back, and get clinically backed results in about a week that you can take to your provider!  Find out which tests are right for you at getgutanswers.com and use code ERINJUDGE25 to save $35 on your order!   Connect with Erin Judge, RD:  IG: https://www.instagram.com/erinjudge.rd TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@erinjudge.rd   Work with Gutivate:  https://gutivate.com/services 

Ever wondered what it takes to move from a retail ISO to a wholesale ISO—or what a Payfac actually is? In this week's episode, James Shepherd sits down with Kyle Morgan to unpack the mechanics of payments behind the scenes. Learn why faster funding for merchants comes at a cost, how the flow of funds works, and the differences between wholesale ISOs and Payfacs. Then, James is joined by Patti Murphy for Today in Payments, where they cover the latest updates from some of the biggest players in the industry and what's working (and not working) in their approach to payments.

Managing Software Updates in Medical Devices: Best Practices & Pitfalls In the world of medical devices, software updates are never just technical tweaks—they directly impact patient safety, regulatory compliance, and product reliability. Managing these updates correctly is a challenge many manufacturers face, especially with evolving standards like ISO 13485 and IEC 62304. In this episode of our podcast, we dive into the critical aspects of software update management for medical devices: Versioning strategies – How to classify bug fixes, minor updates, and major releases, and the role of semantic versioning in regulated environments. Documentation & traceability – Why proper version control and documentation are essential for audits and compliance. Communication with stakeholders – Best practices for release notes, change logs, and informing users, regulators, and internal teams. Common pitfalls – Mistakes that lead to compliance risks and how to avoid them. Pro tips & resources – Actionable recommendations to strengthen your update and versioning strategy. Whether you are a software engineer, QA/RA professional, or regulatory affairs manager, this episode will give you practical tools and insights to build a robust, compliant, and audit-ready update process.

Privacy in the digital age has grown from a background concern into one of the defining issues of our time. What began with simple questions about online safety has expanded into a complex, global conversation about how artificial intelligence, biometric data, and massive data ecosystems are reshaping daily life. Pam Dixon has been at the center of these discussions for more than two decades. As the founder and executive director of the World Privacy Forum, she's worked across the U.S., Europe, India, Africa, and beyond, advising governments, international organizations, and policymakers on how to create effective privacy protections.  In this episode, Pam takes us through the history of modern privacy law, the ways different regions approach the challenge, and the new frontiers like collective privacy, AI governance, and health data that demand fresh thinking. She also offers a grounded perspective on how to build systems that safeguard individuals while still allowing innovation to thrive, and why getting those guardrails right now will shape the future of trust in technology.  Show Notes: [4:49] Pam identified privacy risks in early resume databases and produced a 50-page report on job boards, now known as job search platforms. [8:56] Pam now chairs the civil society work at OECD in AI, contributing to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development Privacy Guidelines (first adopted in 1980). [11:17] The launch of the internet marked a major shift in privacy, transitioning from slower, isolated systems to globally connected networks. [11:46] Early adoption of the internet was limited to academia, government, and tech enthusiasts before reaching the public. [12:45] Privacy frameworks were built on Fair Information Practices, developed in the United States in the 1970s by the Health, Education, and Welfare Committee (later HHS). [15:58] GDPR was developed and enforced in 2018 with extraterritorial provisions applying to companies worldwide (General Data Protection Regulation, enacted in 2016 and enforced in 2018). [18:59] Large language models and deep machine learning advancements have created new and complex privacy challenges. [22:06] Some countries approach privacy with more flexibility and openness, while maintaining strong guardrails. [23:37] In June 2023, a University of Tokyo study on data privacy was presented at an OECD meeting, highlighting evolving global strategies. [26:30] Governments are working together on “data free flow with trust” to address cross-border data concerns. [28:09] Pam warns that AI ecosystems are still forming, and policymakers need to observe carefully before rushing into regulation. [28:31] She emphasizes the emerging issue of collective privacy, which impacts entire groups rather than individuals. [29:04] Privacy issues are complex and not linear; they require ongoing adaptation. [30:24] ChatGPT's launch did not fundamentally change machine learning, but the 2017 transformer paper did, making AI more efficient. [31:53] Known challenges in AI include algorithmic bias related to age, gender, and skin tone. [33:07] Legislative proposals for privacy now require practical testing rather than theoretical drafting. [35:39] AI legislative debates often center on fears of harming innovation, but scientific data should guide regulation. [40:29] NIH reports caution participants in certain medical AI programs to fully understand risks before joining. [41:59] Some patients willingly share all their health data to advance medical research, while others are more cautious. [43:50] Tools for privacy protection are developing, but the field remains in transition. [48:56] Asia and Europe are leading in AI and privacy transitions, with strong national initiatives and regulations. [52:42] The U.S. privacy landscape relies on sector-specific laws such as HIPAA (1996) and COPPA (1998) rather than a single national framework. [54:48] Studies show that wealthy nations often have the least trust in their digital ecosystems, despite advanced infrastructure. [56:19] A little-known U.S. law, A119, allows for voluntary consensus standards in specialized areas, enabling faster innovation compared to ISO processes. [56:48] Voluntary standards can accelerate development in fields like medical AI, avoiding years-long delays from traditional approval processes. [57:32] An FDA case study on an AI-driven heart pump showed significant performance changes between initial deployment and later use, underscoring the importance of testing and oversight. Thanks for joining us on Easy Prey. Be sure to subscribe to our podcast on iTunes and leave a nice review.  Links and Resources: Podcast Web Page Facebook Page whatismyipaddress.com Easy Prey on Instagram Easy Prey on Twitter Easy Prey on LinkedIn Easy Prey on YouTube Easy Prey on Pinterest Pam Dixon Be Your Own Headhunter Online: Get the Job You Want Using the Information Superhighway World Privacy Forum World Privacy Forum - LinkedIn Pam Dixon - Carnegie Mellon University UNSD Health Data Collaborative

In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie and Chris discuss AI data privacy and how AI companies use your data, especially with free versions. You will learn how to approach terms of service agreements. You will understand the real risks to your privacy when inputting sensitive information. You will discover how AI models train on your data and what true data privacy solutions exist. Watch this episode to protect your information! Watch the video here: Can’t see anything? Watch it on YouTube here. Listen to the audio here: https://traffic.libsyn.com/inearinsights/tipodcast-ai-data-privacy-review.mp3 Download the MP3 audio here. Need help with your company’s data and analytics? Let us know! Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn – 00:00 In this week’s In Ear Insights, let’s address a question and give as close to a definitive answer as we can—one of the most common questions asked during our keynotes, our workshops, in our Slack Group, on LinkedIn, everywhere: how do AI companies use your data, particularly if using the free version of a product? A lot of people say, “Be careful what you put in AI. It can learn from your data. You could be leaking confidential data. What’s going on?” So, Katie, before I launch into a tirade which could take hours long, let me ask you, as someone who is the less technical of the two of us, what do you think happens when AI companies are using your data? Katie Robbert – 00:43 Well, here’s the bottom line for me: AI is any other piece of software that you have to read the terms in use and sign their agreement for. Great examples are all the different social media platforms. And we’ve talked about this before, I often get a chuckle—probably in a more sinister way than it should be—of people who will copy and paste this post of something along the lines of, “I do not give Facebook permission to use my data. I do not give Facebook permission to use my images.” And it goes on and on, and it says copy and paste so that Facebook can’t use your information. And bless their hearts, the fact that you’re on the platform means that you have agreed to let them do so. Katie Robbert – 01:37 If not, then you need to have read the terms, the terms of use that explicitly says, “By signing up for this platform, you agree to let us use your information.” Then it sort of lists out what it’s going to use, how it’s going to use it, because legally they have to do that. When I was a product manager and we were converting our clinical trial outputs into commercial products, we had to spend a lot of time with the legal teams writing up those terms of use: “This is how we’re going to use only marketing data. This is how we’re going to use only your registration form data.” When I hear people getting nervous about, “Is AI using my data?” My first thought is, “Yeah, no kidding.” Katie Robbert – 02:27 It’s a piece of software that you’re putting information into, and if you didn’t want that to happen, don’t use it. It’s literally, this is why people build these pieces of software and then give them away for free to the public, hoping that people will put information into them. In the case of AI, it’s to train the models or whatever the situation is. At the end of the day, there is someone at that company sitting at a desk hoping you’re going to give them information that they can do data mining on. That is the bottom line. I hate to be the one to break it to you. We at Trust Insights are very transparent. We have forms; we collect your data that goes into our CRM. Katie Robbert – 03:15 Unless you opt out, you’re going to get an email from us. That is how business works. So I guess it was my turn to go on a very long rant about this. At the end of the day, yes, the answer is yes, period. These companies are using your data. It is on you to read the terms of use to see how. So, Chris, my friend, what do we actually—what’s useful? What do we need to know about how these models are using data in the publicly available versions? Christopher S. Penn – 03:51 I feel like we should have busted out this animation. Katie Robbert – 03:56 Oh. I don’t know why it yells at the end like that, but yes, that was a “Ranty Pants” rant. I don’t know. I guess it’s just I get frustrated. I get that there’s an education component. I do. I totally understand that new technology—there needs to be education. At the end of the day, it’s no different from any other piece of software that has terms of use. If you sign up with an email address, you’re likely going to get all of their promotional emails. If you have to put in a password, then that means that you are probably creating some kind of a profile that they’re going to use that information to create personas and different segments. If you are then putting information into their system, guess what? Katie Robbert – 04:44 They have to store that somewhere so that they can give it back to you. It’s likely on a database that’s on their servers. And guess who owns those servers? They do. Therefore, they own that data. So unless they’re doing something allowing you to build a local model—which Chris has covered in previous podcasts and livestreams, which you can go to Trust Insights.AI YouTube, go to our “So What” playlist, and you can find how to build a local model—that is one of the only ways that you can fully protect your data against going into their models because it’s all hosted locally. But it’s not easy to do. So needless to say, Ranty Pants engaged. Use your brains, people. Christopher S. Penn – 05:29 Use your brains. We have a GPT. In fact, let’s put it in this week’s Trust Insights newsletter. If you’re not subscribed to it, just go to Trust Insights.AI/newsletter. We have a GPT—just copy and paste the terms of service. Copy paste the whole page, paste in the GPT, and we’ll tell you how likely it is that you have given permission to a company to train on your data. With that, there are two different vulnerabilities when you’re using any AI tool. The first prerequisite golden rule: if you ain’t paying, you’re the product. We warn people about this all the time. Second, the prompts that you give and their responses are the things that AI companies are going to use to train on. Christopher S. Penn – 06:21 This has different implications for privacy depending on who you are. The prompts themselves, including all the files and things you upload, are stored verbatim in every AI system, no matter what it is, for the average user. So when you go to ChatGPT or Gemini or Claude, they will store what you’ve prompted, documents you’ve uploaded, and that can be seen by another human. Depending on the terms of service, every platform has a carve out saying, “Hey, if you ask it to do something stupid, like ‘How do I build this very dangerous thing?’ and it triggers a warning, that prompt is now eligible for human review.” That’s just basic common sense. That’s one side. Christopher S. Penn – 07:08 So if you’re putting something there so sensitive that you cannot risk having another human being look at it, you can’t use any AI system other than one that’s running on your own hardware. The second side, which is to the general public, is what happens with that data once it’s been incorporated into model training. If you’re using a tool that allows model training—and here’s what this means—the verbatim documents and the verbatim prompts are not going to appear in a GPT-5. What a company like OpenAI or Google or whoever will do is they will add those documents to their library and then train a model on the prompt and the response to say, “Did this user, when they prompted this thing, get a good response?” Christopher S. Penn – 07:52 If so, good. Let’s then take that document, digest it down into the statistics that it makes up, and that gets incorporated into the rest of the model. The way I explain it to people in a non-technical fashion is: imagine you had a glass full of colored sand—it’s a little rainbow glass of colored sand. And you went out to the desert, like the main desert or whatever, and you just poured the glass out on the ground. That’s the equivalent of putting a prompt into someone’s trained data set. Can you go and scoop up some of the colored sand that was your sand out of the glass from the desert? Yes, you can. Is it in the order that it was in when you first had it in the glass? It is not. Christopher S. Penn – 08:35 So the ability for someone to reconstruct your original prompts and the original data you uploaded from a public model, GPT-5, is extremely low. Extremely low. They would need to know what the original prompt was, effectively, to do that, which then if they know that, then you’ve got different privacy problems. But is your data in there? Yes. Can it be used against you by the general public? Almost certainly not. Can the originals be seen by an employee of OpenAI? Yes. Katie Robbert – 09:08 And I think that’s the key: so you’re saying, will the general public see it? No. But will a human see it? Yes. So if the answer is yes to any of those questions, that’s the way that you need to proceed. We’ve talked about protected health information and personally identifiable information and sensitive financial information, and just go ahead and not put that information into a large language model. But there are systems built specifically to handle that data. And just like a large language model, there is a human on the other side of it seeing it. Katie Robbert – 09:48 So since we’re on the topic of data privacy, I want to ask your opinion on systems like WhatsApp, because they tend to pride themselves, and they have their commercials. Everything you see on TV is clearly the truth. There’s no lies there. They have their commercials saying that the data is fully encrypted in such a way that you can pass messages back and forth, and nobody on their team can see it. They can’t understand what it is. So you could be saying totally heinous things—that’s sort of what they’re implying—and nobody is going to call you out on it. How true do you think that is? Christopher S. Penn – 10:35 There are two different angles to this. One is the liability angle. If you make a commercial claim and then you violate that claim, you are liable for a very large lawsuit. On the one hand is the risk management side. On the other hand, as reported in Reuters last week, Meta has a very different set of ethics internally than the rest of us do. For the most part, there’s a whole big exposé on what they consider acceptable use for their own language models. And some of the examples are quite disturbing. So I can’t say without looking at the codebase or seeing if they have been audited by a trustworthy external party how trustworthy they actually are. There are other companies and applications—Signal comes to mind—that have done very rigorous third-party audits. Christopher S. Penn – 11:24 There are other platforms that actually do the encryption in the hardware—Apple, for example, in its Secure Enclave and its iOS devices. They have also submitted to third-party auditing firms to audit. I don’t know. So my first stop would be: has WhatsApp been audited by a trusted impartial third-party? Katie Robbert – 11:45 So I think you’re hitting on something important. That brings us back to the point of the podcast, which is, how much are these open models using my data? The thing that you said that strikes me is Meta, for example—they have an AI model. Their view on what’s ethical and what’s trustworthy is subjective. It’s not something that I would necessarily agree with, that you would necessarily agree with. And that’s true of any software company because, once again, at the end of the day, the software is built by humans making human judgments. And what I see as something that should be protected and private is not necessarily what the makers of this model see as what should be protected and private because it doesn’t serve their agenda. We have different agendas. Katie Robbert – 12:46 My agenda: get some quick answers and don’t dig too deep into my personal life; you stay out of it. They’re like, “No, we’re going to dig deeper because it’s going to help us give you more tailored and personalized answers.” So we have different agendas. That’s just a very simple example. Christopher S. Penn – 13:04 It’s a simple example, but it’s a very clear example because it goes back to aligning incentives. What are the incentives that they’re offering in exchange for your data? What do you get? And what is the economic benefit to each of these—a company like OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta? They all have economic incentives, and part of responsible use of AI for us as end users is to figure out what are they incentivizing? And is that something that is, frankly, fair? Are you willing to trade off all of your medical privacy for slightly better ads? I think most people say probably no. Katie Robbert – 13:46 Right. Christopher S. Penn – 13:46 That sounds like a good deal to us. Would you trade your private medical data for better medical diagnosis? Maybe so, if we don’t know what the incentives are. That’s our first stop: to figure out what any company is doing with its technology and what their incentives are. It’s the old-fashioned thing we used to do with politicians back when we cared about ethics. We follow the money. What is this politician getting paid? Who’s lobbying them? What outcomes are they likely to generate based on who they’re getting money from? We have to ask the same thing of our AI systems. Katie Robbert – 14:26 Okay, so, and I know the answer to this question, but I’m curious to hear your ranty perspective on it. How much can someone claim, “I didn’t know it was using my data,” and call up, for lack of a better term, call up the company and say, “Hey, I put my data in there and you used it for something else. What the heck? I didn’t know that you were going to do that.” How much water does that hold? Christopher S. Penn – 14:57 About the same as that Facebook warning—a copy and paste. Katie Robbert – 15:01 That’s what I thought you were going to say. But I think that it’s important to talk about it because, again, with any new technology, there is a learning curve of what you can and can’t do safely. You can do whatever you want with it. You just have to be able to understand what the consequences are of doing whatever you want with it. So if you want to tell someone on your team, “Hey, we need to put together some financial forecasting. Can you go ahead and get that done? Here’s our P&L. Here’s our marketing strategy for the year. Here’s our business goals. Can you go ahead and start to figure out what that looks like?” Katie Robbert – 15:39 A lot of people today—2025, late August—are, “it’s probably faster if I use generative AI to do all these things.” So let me upload my documents and let me have generative AI put a plan together because I’ve gotten really good at prompting, which is fine. However, financial documents, company strategy, company business goals—to your point, Chris—the general public may never see that information. They may get flavors of it, but not be able to reconstruct it. But someone, a human, will be able to see the entire thing. And that is the maker of the model. And that may be, they’d be, “Trust Insights just uploaded all of their financial information, and guess what? They’re one of our biggest competitors.” Katie Robbert – 16:34 So they did that knowingly, and now we can see it. So we can use that information for our own gain. Is that a likely scenario? Not in terms of Trust Insights. We are not a competitor to these large language models, but somebody is. Somebody out there is. Christopher S. Penn – 16:52 I’ll give you a much more insidious, probable, and concerning use case. Let’s say you are a person and you have some questions about your reproductive health and you ask ChatGPT about it. ChatGPT is run by OpenAI. OpenAI is an American company. Let’s say an official from the US government says, “I want a list of users who have had conversations about reproductive health,” and the Department of Justice issues this as a warranted request. OpenAI is required by law to comply with the federal government. They don’t get a choice. So the question then becomes, “Could that information be handed to the US government?” The answer is yes. The answer is yes. Christopher S. Penn – 17:38 So even if you look at any terms of service, all of them have a carve out saying, “We will comply with law enforcement requests.” They have to. They have to. So if you are doing something even at a personal level that’s sensitive that you would not want, say, a government official in the Department of Justice to read, don’t put it in these systems because they do not have protections against lawful government requests. Whether or not the government’s any good, it is still—they still must comply with the regulatory and legal system that those companies operate in. Things like that. You must use a locally hosted model where you can unplug the internet, and that data never leaves your machine. Christopher S. Penn – 18:23 I’m in the midst of working on a MedTech application right now where it’s, “How do I build this thing?” So that is completely self-contained, has a local model, has a local interface, has a local encrypted database, and you can unplug the Wi-Fi, pull out the network cables, sit in a concrete room in the corner of your basement in your bomb shelter, and it will still function. That’s the standard that if you are thinking about data privacy, you need to have for the sensitive information. And that begins with regulatory stuff. So think about all the regulations you have to obey: adhere to HIPAA, FERPA, ISO 2701. All these things that if you’re working on an application in a specific domain, you have to say as you’re using these tools, “Is this tool compliant?” Christopher S. Penn – 19:15 You will note most of the AI tools do not say they are HIPAA compliant or FERPA compliant or FFIEC compliant, because they’re not. Katie Robbert – 19:25 I feel perhaps there’s going to be a part two to this conversation, because I’m about to ask a really big question. Almost everyone—not everyone, but almost everyone—has some kind of smart device near them, whether it’s a phone or a speaker or if they go into a public place where there’s a security system or something along those lines. A lot of those devices, depending on the manufacturer, have some kind of AI model built in. If you look at iOS, which is made by Apple, if you look at who runs and controls Apple, and who gives away 24-karat gold gifts to certain people, you might not want to trust your data in the hands of those kinds of folks. Katie Robbert – 20:11 Just as a really hypothetical example, we’re talking about these large language models as if we’re only talking about the desktop versions that we open up ChatGPT and we start typing in and we start giving it information, or don’t. But what we have to also be aware of is if you have a smartphone, which a lot of us do, that even if you disable listening, guess what? It’s still listening. This is a conversation I have with my husband a lot because his tinfoil hat is bigger than mine. We both have them, but his is a little bit thicker. We have some smart speakers in the house. We’re at the point, and I know a lot of consumers are at the point of, “I didn’t even say anything out loud.” Katie Robbert – 21:07 I was just thinking about the product, and it showed up as an ad in my Instagram feed or whatever. The amount of data that you don’t realize you’re giving away for free is, for lack of a better term, disgusting. It’s huge. It’s a lot. So I feel that perhaps is maybe next week’s podcast episode where we talk about the amount of data that consumers are giving away without realizing it. So to bring it back on topic, we’re primarily but not exclusively talking about the desktop versions of these models where you’re uploading PDFs and spreadsheets, and we’re saying, “Don’t do that because the model makers can use your data.” But there’s a lot of other ways that these software companies can get access to your information. Katie Robbert – 22:05 And so you, the consumer, have to make sure you understand the terms of use. Christopher S. Penn – 22:10 Yes. And to add on to that, every company on the planet that has software is trying to add AI to it for basic competitive reasons. However, not all APIs are created the same. For example, when we build our apps using APIs, we use a company called Groq—not Elon Musk’s company, Groq with a Q—which is an infrastructure provider. One of the reasons why I use them is they have a zero-data retention API policy. They do not retain data at all on their APIs. So the moment the request is done, they send the data back, it’s gone. They have no logs, so they can’t. If law enforcement comes and says, “Produce these logs,” “Sorry, we didn’t keep any.” That’s a big consideration. Christopher S. Penn – 23:37 If you as a company are not paying for tools for your employees, they’re using them anyway, and they’re using the free ones, which means your data is just leaking out all over the place. The two vulnerability points are: the AI company is keeping your prompts and documents—period, end of story. It’s unlikely to show up in the public models, but someone could look at that. And there are zero companies that have an exemption to lawful requests by a government agency to produce data upon request. Those are the big headlines. Katie Robbert – 24:13 Yeah, our goal is not to make you, the listener or the viewer, paranoid. We really just want to make sure you understand what you’re dealing with when using these tools. And the same is true. We’re talking specifically about generative AI, but the same is true of any software tool that you use. So take generative AI out of it and just think about general software. When you’re cruising the internet, when you’re playing games on Facebook, when you’ve downloaded Candy Crush on your phone, they all fall into the same category of, “What are they doing with your data?” And so you may say, “I’m not giving it any data.” And guess what? You are. So we can cover that in a different podcast episode. Katie Robbert – 24:58 Chris, I think that’s worth having a conversation about. Christopher S. Penn – 25:01 Absolutely. If you’ve got some thoughts about AI and data privacy and you want to share them, pop by our free Slack group. Go to Trust Insights.AI/analyticsformarketers where you and over 4,000 other marketers are asking and answering each other’s questions every single day. 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Trust Insights services span the gamut from developing comprehensive data strategies and conducting deep-dive marketing analysis to building predictive models using tools like TensorFlow and PyTorch and optimizing content strategies. Katie Robbert – 26:23 Trust Insights also offers expert guidance on social media analytics, marketing technology and MarTech selection and implementation, and high-level strategic consulting encompassing emerging generative AI technologies like ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Anthropic Claude, DALL-E, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, and Meta Llama. Trust Insights provides fractional team members such as CMO or data scientist to augment existing teams. Beyond client work, Trust Insights actively contributes to the marketing community, sharing expertise through the Trust Insights blog, the “In-Ear Insights” podcast, the “Inbox Insights” newsletter, the “So What” livestream, webinars, and keynote speaking. 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Discover how Andy Novins turns business challenges into big wins! Andy shares with host Andrew Stotz how he uses Deming strategies to outsmart competitors, watch for market shifts, and win loyal clients in one of the toughest industries around. TRANSCRIPT Andrew Stotz: My name is Andrew Stotz and I'll be your host as we continue our journey into the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Today, I'm here with featured guest Andy Novins. Andy, are you ready to join and share your Deming journey?   Andy Novins: I sure am. Yep.   Andrew Stotz: We've done a lot of prep for this, had some good conversations, and I'm looking forward to it. Let me introduce you to the audience. Andy first got introduced to the teachings of Dr. Deming more than 30 years ago and has been hooked ever since. He attended Dr. Deming's four-day seminar in August of 1993, only four months before the passing of Dr. Deming on December 20th of 1993 at the age of 93. Andy was a co-owner of a women's athletic apparel company, which was eventually purchased by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway. For the past 23 years, he's been applying Dr. Deming's philosophy to his work in real estate, which traditionally has operated in what could be described as in opposition to the teachings of Dr. Deming. Andy, why don't you tell us a little bit about what you're doing right now and maybe a little bit about how you got into what you're doing now, and then later we're going to talk a little bit about your experience with Dr. Deming and all that. But just let us know, where are you at? What are you doing?   Andy Novins: Okay. Well, I am in Northern Virginia, just outside Washington, D.C., and after my partners and I sold the company that Andrew just referred to, I had to decide what I was going to do. And I had about six months to do that because part of the contract required me to help the purchaser, which originally was Russell Corporation, a big athletic, they made all the Major League Baseball uniforms and everything. We had to transfer my company's systems to their systems, and that was one of the worst six months of my career, watching everything we had done, which was really all Deming-based, being sort of dismantled and worked into another Fortune 500 company at the time. It was, somewhat, actually it was a few years later that Berkshire Hathaway bought it, and it was because Russell was not doing very well. It was a rescue-type purchase by Berkshire Hathaway, which sort of had some satisfaction in mind that their systems weren't all that good. So that's where I got into Deming, and I've taken a lot of what I learned from the apparel company into real estate, which, as Andrew just mentioned, is very volume-centric, volume-focused, and focusing on processes as opposed to systems.   Andrew Stotz: And in the real estate world, for those people that don't know, let's say real estate, what position are you in? For instance, my sister is a mortgage broker in Maine, and that's a different place within the whole sphere of it, but maybe you can explain exactly where you are in the value chain.   Andy Novins: Okay. We focus on residential real estate. What we call in real estate farm, okay? I send out 5,000 newsletters a month that show to eight different areas, really, but they're all within, believe it or not, two miles of my house. And those news, I've been doing that for over 20 years. I've never made a cold call. I will never call anybody and say, are you thinking of selling or anything like that. Yet, using this process, which is all really Deming-based, I've done about 10 times the volume of any other realtor in the 5,000 homes that I service. It's the process... I don't want to use process. The system we used is based on Michael Porter, his concept of competitive advantage. And it's a system that's focused on a value chain, things that we do that other people can't do. For example, there are close to 300 sales a year in my 5,000 home market. I see every one of them. And when you see a house that's on the market, you know a lot more than anybody else does by looking at pictures. If you've ever been to an open house and after seeing it on the internet, it's a lot different than what you saw in the pictures. No other agent can do that because most agents in my area focus on Northern Virginia, which would be about 20,000 transactions a year, not 300. So they can't even try to compete with me in my area. So that's the whole concept of it is doing things. As Michael Porter would say, you have a value proposition. That's my expertise in my local area.   Andrew Stotz: Porter talks about different strategies. One, he says, is the low-cost leader. Another is the differentiation. And the third one he talks about is focus and where you're focused on a niche in the market. And then I guess I always kind of think that really he's talking about two, because with focus, you're picking a niche, but then you're going to either be a low-cost leader or probably a differentiator in that focused area. But when you talk about Porter and what he's teaching, can you explain a little bit more for those people that don't know what he talked about?   Andy Novins: Sure. Yes. Basically, yes. I mean, I'll never forget. My partner and I were at a breakfast, realtor breakfast at one point, and there was an agent sitting across the table from us and he said, I just got this listing. And he said, but I had to go down to 1%. And he's, you know, for commission. And at that time, commissions were pretty much 3%. And he kind of looked at us and said, that's better than nothing, right? And that's the low-cost. Low-cost producers will never win. It'll always be somebody else. And Porter says, you can't be the best either. Okay. There's no such thing as the best realtor. There's always going to be somebody else. So the concept for real estate is picking a niche, that for me, it was farming. I'm a pretty good writer. So I write a newsletter, and people call me when they're ready to sell their house. And it's worked beautifully for... I started that in 2003. Okay. But there's people that focus on luxury, the luxury market or people that focus on first time buyers, or people that focus on... There's all kinds of different niches downsizing or upsizing. And so you can become an expert in anything. And that's how you differentiate yourself in real estate.   Andrew Stotz: And that concept of not competing to be best that Porter talks about is great because it also forces you to think. You're focused on the wrong thing if you're focusing on how to beat the competitor. And I always enjoyed the fact that Deming was so focused on the customer.   Andy Novins: Yes.   Andrew Stotz: And that, I think with Porter, I like that. But with Deming, I just really love the idea that he saw quality in the eyes of the customer. He saw innovation and continuous improvement in relation to the customer as primary over trying to benchmark off of some competitor.   Andy Novins: Exactly. And if I go back to my apparel business, the name of our company was Moving Comfort, and we just made women's apparel. Nobody else ever stuck to just that. We were the only company. Just, everybody broadened out to try to get more. So again, it's the same concept of a niche. Okay. But one of the policies, I guess, we've developed, it was a Deming related policy, which was fun, okay, was when we made a mistake, which we often did, whether we shipped somebody the wrong thing or we did other things, our objective was to make the, delight the customer, as he would say, make them happy we made the mistake. And that didn't matter what that cost to do that, sending them free stuff, doing whatever. And I think that's a Deming concept that we used in the apparel business aside from many, many others. Back to real estate, that's, I don't know anybody else in the Washington area that does what we do, because nobody's willing, that's the so-called trade-offs. Nobody's willing to say, I'm just going to focus on 5,000 houses.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah. It's scary.   Andy Novins: They can pick whatever they get.   Andrew Stotz: Yep. Yep. And maybe why don't we now go back to August of 1993. How did you find yourself in a four-day seminar? And I'm kind of jealous because what... My seminars I went to in '90 and '92 were two-day seminars.   Andy Novins: Really? Okay.   Andrew Stotz: And I had thought that he... I had thought by that time, maybe he was only doing two days, but then I learned that he was still doing four days. But what got you to that seminar? Where was it, and what got you there?   Andy Novins: Okay, I was going on vacation. Okay, this was in 1990. We were going to go to Cancun. And there's this, I guess they're still around, but there was a bookstore in DC on K Street called Reiter's. And it was all business and science. And I used to go there because pre-Amazon or anything like that. I think it was even pre-Borders. But I used to go there and spend an afternoon looking at books. And I found Out of the Crisis. And I brought it home and I said to my wife, by perusing through it, I didn't know anything about Deming at that point. But perusing through it, it just struck me as something I really wanted to read. And I went home and I said, I'm taking this book to Cancun, and I'm going to sit on the beach and read it. Well, I actually didn't read it till got home. But I got completely enthralled with it.   Andy Novins: And being in suburban DC, we're like eight miles from the White House. The Deming Study Group was very active in DC. Dr. Deming lived in DC. And there were just a lot of very well-known, famous speakers that would be part of our group, including Deming at one point, but I wasn't. But I think it was before I joined the group. So I read the book, joined the group, and after about three years, I had heard enough about the seminar that I wanted to go. And I went to that in Chicago. It was the first or second week of August of '93. And one of the things that I never really understood that Dr. Deming would say a lot was talking about being transformed, or the transformation that you get when you're studying his philosophies. And I always kind of said, well, that's not going to happen to me. It just was foreign to me. That third day of the seminar, I was transformed. I don't know how to describe it, but ever since then, I look at the world through his eyes and see things and think in systems and variability. And you get all that when you first get exposed to them, but you're not transformed. Somehow it all comes together. I couldn't describe it, I never thought it was, but that happened during that seminar.   Andrew Stotz: And what Dr. Deming talked about was the idea is that the person who's leading the organization has got to go through a transformation in order to truly implement this.   Andy Novins: Exactly.   Andrew Stotz: What was it like there? How many people were in the room? And what was your... You walked in knowing a bit. I walked in knowing nothing, basically. And it was just like, whoa. But I'm just curious, what were your first impressions? For those people that have never and never will have a chance to go in, give us a feeling about how it went.   Andy Novins: I don't know if I mentioned it was in Chicago.   Andrew Stotz: Yep.   Andy Novins: Okay. Which is a great city, and it was in the summer, which is often hot. But I was amazed because at that point, and I may be wrong, but I think it cost $1,000 to go. Okay. And he had 500, and I'm pretty sure that's about what it cost. And do you remember what yours was?   Andrew Stotz: Mine was about 500 people, for sure. I didn't pay for it, so Pepsi paid for it but I would think it was even more than that. But who knows? But maybe mine was a two-day, so it was less, I don't know.   Andy Novins: But it was 500 people. That's what I remember, because being a numbers person, I translate that to 500,000 for the four days. And so that kind of stuck in my mind. And he did a lot of them. And one of the things, too, that he did a lot of them, and I think, geez, he's making a lot of money doing this. He lived in a little tiny house on a street in Washington, and he worked in the basement. One of the things that happened to me after that, again, with the Deming Study Group, was his son-in-law, Bill Ratcliff, okay? Somewhere shortly after the four-day seminar, he called me and he said, I'm getting a lot of feedback, you guys at Moving Comfort are doing a lot of using Deming's theories and everything. Could I come and visit the company and you show me what you're doing? And I said, sure. I mean, any more exposure to any of the people interested in Deming at that point was fascinating to me. And so he came and he spent a good part of the day at the company. And then I'm not even sure if at the time I knew that he was Deming's son-in-law, but then we went out, his wife was Linda Deming Ratcliff, okay? And so he and Linda and my wife went out to dinner a couple of times after that. And it was fascinating to hear both of their stories about Dr. Deming. What I remember is Bill would say, we used to go over there on Sunday mornings and read the newspaper, and Dr. Deming would be down in the basement working. And he'd come up periodically and say, how are you doing, Bill? In his voice, and then go back down and work. And he constantly was focused on his work. And so those relationships just tied me into Deming forever, especially after the four-day seminar.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah. I think it was a discussion with Bill Scherkenbach when I asked him about what it was like in the basement. And Bill was telling me, I don't think we got this recorded, but Bill was telling me that somebody asked him why you have all of this stuff around you and in your office. And he said, I'm desperate. I'm absolutely desperate. And with the idea that he was on such a mission. And I just feel like when I went to the seminar, the first one was in Washington, and then the second one was in Los Angeles. I didn't know how significant he would be in my life at the time, and I didn't understand the transformation I was going through. But what I did later really come to understand is that he inspired me to have a mission. And like, why am I doing what I'm doing? It's one thing for all of us to be busy, working really hard, doing all kinds of stuff and bringing value to our clients. But for what? What's the mission? And was a huge, that's a much bigger takeaway for me now than it was then. But what I witnessed was this man who is very old, just conveying an incredible message. So, yeah.   Andy Novins: Yeah, it was, and he was... Well, DemingNEXT, if anybody is involved in that and can see a lot of the videos with Dr. Deming, especially during the years that I was interested in watching and everything else, he just had a unique way of presentation, but he did have a sense of humor. And it was a dry sense of humor, I guess, maybe going with his dry martinis.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah, tell us that story about Deming Martini.   Andy Novins: Yes. As one of the sessions at the four-day seminar ended, apparently this Deming Martini is famous or was pretty well-known at that point. So he described how he loved martinis and he acted out the process of making one. And again, he's 93 and just you could tell this is just part of his life he loved. And he, so he kept his vermouth in the freezer, okay? And it was, and so he demonstrated how he poured the gin, and then he acted out like he went into the refrigerator freezer and took out the vermouth. And then he would not open the bottle, but he would wave the bottle around the glass and then he'd put it back in the freezer, and he'd say, this is the best martini you can make. And he had a lot of stories that added a lot of spice to it.   Andrew Stotz: So when you left that seminar, what changed in the way that you were operating? And obviously you had already had awareness of the teachings, but did that inspire you to go to a different level or what did it cause?   Andy Novins: Yes, and I'm not sure at what point the so-called transformation took place in the four-day seminar. You knew that that's how you were going to think for the rest of your life. That wasn't, you were going to think in systems and variation and predicting from the system and all those things. But so I can't really remember what years we did it, but as an apparel, our company basically, we designed, manufactured through separate factories and sold women's athletic apparel to specially sporting goods stores around the country. Nordstrom's was a client, one of the bigger ones, L.L. Bean and those kinds of things. And so one of the things we implemented that was really a Deming concept was improving our shipping, the picking process, which is filling an order. And we automated that with a carousel, which brought the product right to the picker, the warehouse person, and barcodes and scanned the order, and it brought the thing right to them. It incredibly reduced our error rate in shipping. And at the time, this would have been like 19, this was '91 or somewhere early on that. And at the time, we were way ahead of other companies.   Andy Novins: Even Nike, they would get an order, they'd walk around and pick their orders. And so that was a Deming-inspired process or way of improving our system. With apparel and you're designing 100 different styles or sizes and styles and everything else, the design development group, the functional silos that, I don't know if Dr. Deming used that term, but the system that every department has to hand off is working for the next department. In apparel, it's really complicated. And that was the biggest Deming issue we would focus on. It never went away. You really had to always, because our designers would put bells and whistles into a garment. We were very high-end and it either wasn't practical price-wise or it wasn't practical in the factory or we didn't have a good source for where we were going to put it, where, what factory we were going to put it in, that type of thing. So that's where really the Caribbean Basin Trade Initiative at that point came out. That's where we had factory, up until about 1990, all our production was in the United States.   Andy Novins: After that, it got too expensive, labor, sewing labor in the United States. That's when most companies started going offshore. We did a lot in the Caribbean. And when you're manufacturing apparel, back at the beginning, you would ship, we would buy the fabric and we would ship it to the Caribbean factory that we were using and they would sew it, and put it together. And then trade agreements came out where the factories could buy the material. And essentially, instead of they being just a sewer, they would be making a finished product for us. That had huge implications on simplifying the system and transferring responsibility to the people that really needed it. But now maybe I'm getting too much into apparel, but...they haven't been doing it for 23 years.   Andrew Stotz: So let's talk about what you're doing about your application of Dr. Deming's teaching in real estate. And I know you've also brought something along to share and go through, but maybe you can just talk a little bit about how you're applying that in the real estate business.   Andy Novins: Yeah, and that's the control chart concept. And all real estate statistics are lagging indicators, whether we're talking median prices or active listings, or I guess active listings are the only one that's not a lagging indicator, but almost virtually every month's supply of inventory, all those things are lagging indicators. So they tell us as realtors what happened. And in my market here, it bottomed out after the 2008 recession in March of 2009. And until this year, it's gone straight up for 16 years. So most realtors, virtually no realtors... Well, most realtors haven't experienced a shift in the market, which is what we're going through now, where the market goes from being a buyer's or seller's market for all those years. And I'm talking about a strong seller's market. A seller's market is defined by the National Association of Realtors as any market where the months' supply is less than six months. And our supply was hovering around two to three weeks. And it's now almost two months, but the market has shifted and it's incredible how many people don't realize that.   Andy Novins: Everybody knows there's something going on, but the media takes care of that. But all the statistics we get are, again, median prices are still very high, okay? But using control charts, you can plot, for example, a couple of months of live inventory. That started going down in April, okay? I mean, that went out of the control limits in April, okay? That's telling us that something's happened. It tells us directly that the market shifted, okay? The other thing that I watch is price drops, okay? How many price drops? That went out of the control limits in, I think, June, they started out, okay? And we're looking at that weekly, and that's showing us every week, the number of price, it's so far out of the control limit right now, it's amazing. There's no... You can't... You can look at price drops, and you can look at months' supply on a graph, okay? But it doesn't tell you that the system's now out of control. But control charts do tell you that, so...   Andrew Stotz: Should we look at your control chart? Maybe that's a good time to do that.   Andy Novins: Sure, yeah. And before we do that, one of the things in real estate is seasonality, okay? And that hides a lot of problems because prices go up in the spring, down in the summer, down in the fall, up a little bit, then down. But let me bring those up and talk about them. Okay, you can see this?   Andrew Stotz: Yep, and for the listeners out there, I'll just describe. You've got a line chart up here, and a line that's going up and down, and then recently is going up a lot. And it starts in July of 2023, and it goes to June of 2025. And so why don't you take that away and help us understand what you've got here?   Andy Novins: Okay. So the control limits, the upper and lower control limit are the red lines on this. And going back to July of '23, everything was stable. And if we went back long before that, it would also have been stable.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah, and by the way, just to make it clear, it's monthly supply, or month supply, sorry, of housing.   Andy Novins: I'm sorry.   Andrew Stotz: Can you explain what it means, month supply?   Andy Novins: Yeah, month supply is the number of active listings at the end of a month divided by the average monthly sales for 12 months, the 12-month average. So it's basically saying if you've got 10 active listings and the average is two a month, that you've got a five-month supply of listings. Okay?   Andrew Stotz: And the average on this is one month supply.   Andy Novins: The average, right. And you can see where during the pandemic, we've had times where it went down to just a number of weeks, which is pretty incredible, but that's our market. So again, this chart is telling us that... Well, there's another thing, other ways that Dr. Deming would look at this. We've got several months where it's going, the month supply is just going up. So starting in December '24, you can see that the supply keeps going up. And then it went out and broke the upper control limit. So what he would say in this, looking at this chart is that up until really of March 2025, the system was in control, it was predictable, okay? And then starting in March or April 2025, it was out of control, it was not a stable market, and the market is a system.   Andrew Stotz: And it went up above the upper control limit of 1.6 roughly or 1.55. And now the highest it went up in May was about one point, almost, yeah, 1.8.   Andy Novins: 1.8, okay. And so Dr. Deming would say that number one, it's a shift in the market, number two, the market is no longer predictable. Okay? Clients don't like to hear that, but using these charts and explaining it to them, they do understand it. And in real estate, one of the most important things when markets are changing, or always actually for that matter, is managing client expectations, okay? And using Deming's theories and control charts, it makes it... And I'll get into that a little bit more in a minute, but managing their expectations becomes more of a science than scripts, which is what...   Andrew Stotz: One of the things I learned from Dr. Deming was be skeptical of data,  and I know I've spent my career as a financial analyst manipulating tons of data. And every time I see something out of control like we see here, the first question I ask is, is there an error in the data? And then the next question is, okay, so what's going on out there that the chart is one thing, but can you just talk briefly about what's going on? What do you think is behind this? What's causing it? What is that shift that you're seeing?   Andy Novins: Well, if you were asking me this in 2008, I could have told you. The irresponsible lending and all kinds of other things. Today, the market is in our market more than others is impacted by uncertainty. Okay. Uncertainty surrounding the impact of tariffs. Okay. But especially in our area, the impact on federal workers job security. Okay. In our area, which is an expensive area, almost any couple that is buying a house is buying it on two incomes. And if one of those, one of the members of the couple is, works for the federal government or is a government or works for a government contractor or is affected by any, in any company that may be impacted by government cutbacks, they're not buying a house right now. They're waiting. So they don't want to buy on one income. And so they pulled out of the market. And that's, that's the biggest reason for the increase in the supply. The other is,  people do want to move. People want to downsize and upsize. Well, most people have a 3% interest rate or better or slightly around there. So with the impact of low, you know, of rising interest rates and everything else, there's people that want to downsize. And if they move, they'd be paying more for their smaller house than they were for their house they're staying in. So they stay.   Andrew Stotz: What are, what are mortgage rates right now? Roughly.   Andy Novins: That's  675, 6.75. 30 year. But what's interesting on that, and I haven't done it, but it would be an interesting exercise is when I began my career as a CPA in New York, I moved down here in 1982 to be part of the company that I talked about before, the apparel company. I, when I said to her, when I had that opportunity, I said to my wife, what do you think about moving down to Washington? We lived in Westchester County, New York, and she said, well, sure, but, and at that point, I was treasurer of a bank in the New York metropolitan area, and she was willing to take the risk. It was a risky move, but she said not, but not, we can't sell our house. We have an eight and a half percent mortgage. We'll rent it, and if it doesn't work in Washington, we can always come back to it. So that eight and a half percent mortgage back in '82 was not something you got rid of, and people don't realize that the average mortgage rate in the past 50 years is eight percent. So at 6.75, it's not that bad, but it's relative to the three percent interest rates we had. It's making it tough for people to move.   Andrew Stotz: So just talking now, I just want to wrap up on the chart by saying, so once you use, you're demonstrating using a control chart in the industry of real estate, and you're discussing the fact that right now, you've got three points that have breaking out of the upper control limit, which now tells us, as you said, it's unpredictable at this point. What else, what do you take from that, and how does that drive your actions when you see this chart? How does that impact you, and in other words, how are you applying Deming's teachings once you've now done this?   Andy Novins: Great question. When you price a house to sell it, you use what we call comparable sales. When a market is going up or stable, comparable sales are a good indication of what you're probably going to price it at if it's going to go on the market soon. What realtors do is what we call a comparative market analysis, and that's comparing at least three homes to their home. There's all different ways of doing that, which is part of a Deming system too. But when you go to somebody and say, well, we got these three homes and they sold it at 800, but if you're going to put your house on the market next month, we're probably looking more like at 750. And most people would say, well, I'm not going to use that guy. This other realtor says 800 is the way to go. And using the control chart showing that the market has shifted and that those comps are no longer valid is one of the most valuable uses of control charts in real estate because, again, it's evidence that the comps aren't valid anymore.   Andy Novins: The other thing is comps represent, even if it closed yesterday, it went under contract a month ago. So the comps are just not necessarily good if the market is shifting, and this is pretty powerful evidence to a potential client that pricing is really important and you can't just use past comps. I'll go to the next chart, which is price drops. And this is something, again, our market really just shifted recently, so this is something I'm actually doing actively right now looking at. But you can see that this is weekly price drops. Okay, it started off monthly because I can't go back and get that data. But if I go back to a stable year, last year is the base. You can see that price drops were pretty stable process in the pricing system. They were...   Andrew Stotz: So what does that mean? Just so we understand, let's say the average is 25% projected monthly price drop. What does that actually mean?   Andy Novins: That's saying that every month that of the active listings on the market, 25% of them are reducing their price. That month.   Andrew Stotz: So in other words, 75% are either keeping it the same or raising it.   Andy Novins: Say that. Yes, right.   Andrew Stotz: The opposite of that. Okay.   Andy Novins: Right. And that's each month. That doesn't mean somebody didn't lower their price on that same house the month before. But it's registering the number of drops that homes on the market are doing.   Andrew Stotz: And that would mean it's like a pretty good seller's market again when only a quarter of listings need to drop their price in order to get the sale.   Andy Novins: Yes, exactly. Yep. Exactly. And you can see this...   Andrew Stotz: And let's just talk about the January 2024 to December of 2024. So for the year of 2024, what's your observation of the data?   Andy Novins: It was stable. It's not a change in the market.   Andrew Stotz: Yep. Okay. Normal variation.   Andy Novins: Yeah, normal variation. Okay. But when it starts to go up like it has, and it's even worse because what I'm using is an average for these weeks. The next week starting tomorrow will have the four-week average. They're actually quite a bit higher, the last two, than what they show here because they were averaged down. But when you see rampant price dropping, that's out of control, so to speak.   Andrew Stotz: Right. So it's gone from a mean of 25 up to 60-plus percent of monthly price drop. I'm just curious. It says on your y-axis, it says projected monthly price drop. Does that mean somebody's making some estimate on that, or what does that mean?   Andy Novins: That's because right now I'm doing it by the week.   Andrew Stotz: Okay. Ah, okay.   Andy Novins: Okay. And I'm averaging the week. And then when I get the month, it'll be like the earlier ones.   Andrew Stotz: So the most recent ones are the projected, and the other ones are the actual month.   Andy Novins: Yeah.   Andrew Stotz: Okay.   Andy Novins: And right, I'm using, I'm multiplying them times four the week. So it's right now I'm projecting what July will be, basically, the total, but it'll be up around 60%.   Andrew Stotz: And this chart corroborates the conclusions that you made in the prior chart, or are there any other additional...   Andy Novins: Yeah. And the month supply chart is more of a leading indicator of a market shift, because this is the reaction of sellers and realtors to a market they didn't anticipate properly. And so this is a much more now type of thing. And again, if I go back to a client and say, you know, all the comps are 800, but we're going to recommend 750, this is pretty convincing evidence that basically almost everybody in the market is reducing their prices.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah.   Andy Novins: And in a falling market, the worst thing you can do is chase the prices, chase it down.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah. And what this doesn't show, it shows that 60% are dropping their price. It doesn't show what the remaining 40% are. And that composition of that could just be, there could be no price increases. We don't know from this data whether that's holding the price the same or increasing it.   Andy Novins: Right. But it doesn't mean that there aren't homes in those active listings that didn't reduce their price, that reduced their price. They may have reduced their price last month. Okay. So it's really just showing the panic that's out there.   Andrew Stotz: Okay. Got it.   Andy Novins: But it's a great leading indicator from that standpoint.   Andrew Stotz: Okay. So two charts that show us the application of control charts and Deming's teachings there in real estate and making a note of the fact that these are now out of control. Interesting.   Andy Novins: Yes. And again, the most important thing you can do, I think, in real estate is accurately manage your client's expectations. Yeah. Because, and I'm going to back up for a second, that's another real benefit of having a niche practice. And again, like the competitive advantage Michael Porter concept. And for me, writing a newsletter, which gives them what we hope to be useful information for the 5,000 homes that get it. When they're ready to sell, again, I don't call them, they call me. And they call me because they trust me. They believe I know what I'm doing. And so part of a system that would be outside of what Dr. Deming talked about, but part of the system is your clients, the quality of your system is going to depend on the quality of your clients. And so having a niche, again, what I'm doing in terms of that so-called farming and the newsletter is I'm attracting clients that will trust me. Okay. That's so much a Deming concept in terms of the overall system and how it affects it. We see all the time when buyers that are buying one of our listings and they have all these problems and the other real estate agents, their buyer's agent says, I know they're crazy. I can't wait till this is over because their buyer clients aren't listening to them and they're asking for unreasonable things or whatever. So a critical part of the system in real estate is getting clients that will listen to you because theoretically we know what we're doing.   Andrew Stotz: And if we look at this chart, one of the things that some people may ask is what about forecasts? And I know I spent my career as a financial analyst in the stock market forecasting earnings. And then when I worked on my PhD for my dissertation, I decided to calculate the accuracy of analysts in earnings forecasts. And as I said, the title of my dissertation was analysts were only 25% wrong. And in other words, here is the highest qualified people to forecast the earnings of these companies and they get it wrong by 25% on average. And so for those people that say, well, what about your forecast and all that? I always say, I live on the cutting edge of history. Don't try to go too far out in the future. Just make sure you understand. And that's where this chart shows July 19th to July 25th that you could say that's pretty much, and if you get the data out the next day, that's the cutting edge of history.   Andy Novins: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And in the past, people say, well, should I wait?  At this time of the year, they might say, should I wait and put the house on the market next spring? Or should we do it after Labor Day? And in the past, I would have said, wait till next spring because things were going to be better. You could... Everything was stable and rising. What these charts show, and they do require some explanation, is that the market is out of control right now. You can't predict it. And then if so,  then it becomes a decision that a client makes based on what they really need. Do they want to move yet? Do they want to wait? Do they... But these control charts are showing that you can't predict. Whereas in the past, you could be pretty safe.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah. And the point of that, too, is that a control chart can't solve every problem. It tells you where things are, so you understand things a lot better. But then, how you're going to actually use that information, well, somebody may use it to say, I need to sell my house now. Somebody else may say, I'm going to wait because I think this is bad and it's going to get better later. And somebody's going to say, I'm going to sell now desperately because I think this is going to get much worse, right? That's the hard part.   Andy Novins: Yeah.   Andrew Stotz: But if you don't know what's actually happening, which the control chart gives you that information, then there's none of that.  It's just, there's no basis in fact of what you're doing.   Andy Novins: Exactly. Right. They provide a window into the market that I have never seen anybody use this or talk about it.   Andrew Stotz: And do you have any more charts? Was that it?   Andy Novins: No. Yeah, I got more.   Andy Novins: Okay. Whoops. Oh, but before we get to that, okay, so this is a concept, and if I'm going too long, cut me off.   Andrew Stotz: No, no. Go ahead.   Andy Novins: So in a falling or stable market like we're in, okay, in a rising market, you pick a price, and if you're good, you're going to do well. If you do it right, they're going to bid it up. That's the way it's been for five years since COVID. Okay. Now the market is not rising. It's falling or even in a stable market. So the PDSA cycle that Deming talked about is absolutely so on target for what we're going through right now. So I'll just briefly go through this. The plan part is you price using comps or adjusted comps based on what the control charts are showing where the market is going rather than where it was. Okay. And then you put the listing on the market in the MLS. And then what we do, okay, is we study what's happening, okay? And again, the market is not in control. It's not a stable system. So we monitor and we subscribe to special services that most agents don't get. They cost money, but they give us a lot of information. We can see the number of views all over the internet that a house is getting that's on the market. And we can subscribe to another service that shows all the showings that are comparable houses in our zip code or any way we want to do it are getting. And then we use the control charts and we look at feedback and everything else.   Andrew Stotz: So do you have more charts, Andy?   Andy : I sure do. This isn't actually a chart. It's one of the core tools that Dr. Deming used. And it's what he called the PDSA cycle. And that is the most important tool that we use with the data we get from the control charts. So I'm going through an example here of pricing. And so the PDSA is plan, do, study, act. And the planning section of this process is we price using comps, like I've described. But we also use the control charts to let us adjust the comps for what's happening in the market right up to today, basically. And the do is just in real estate is just simply putting the listing in the real estate market, MLS, and listing it so people can see it. The study, though, is what's really important. And that's where a lot more data comes in. We subscribe to services where we can monitor all the views all over the Internet of our listings. And we can monitor showings that our listings are getting, which we know, but other listings. We can monitor what they're getting in terms of competitive listings, similar prices, and that type of thing.   Andy : And we also monitor what houses, if any, are going under contract since our property went on the market. And that provides what we talk. So we have to act on that data. And that's the A of the PDSA cycle. And so we use feedback loops. So just as an example, I won't necessarily go through all these. If we have a lot of views, high views, and high showings, we know the price is right. We're going to get offers. On the other hand, if we have high views and low showings, we know buyers are interested in it, they like it, but they're not ready to come and look at it. They're waiting for that price to go down, which in this market, it probably will. So we advise our clients based on the data we're getting, and then we either reprice or we don't. There's also some other things we use to monitor, but I won't go into those at this point.   Andrew Stotz: What's interesting about that is it's like every single listing is a test.   Andy : Exactly.   Andrew Stotz: That's cool.   Andy : Yeah. And that data is so important. And when you tell a client, you're getting all kinds of... You're getting... And we compare it to the other listings. We give them charts, which shows the other houses. And we say, look, you're getting twice the views of these other houses, but nobody's coming to your house, or very few are coming. And the other listings are getting less views and more showings. People think you're overpriced. And it's very convincing to a client.   Andrew Stotz: Is there one of these that you're aiming for? And if you are close to that in your listings, you're hitting the right spot? Or what are you aiming for?   Andy : High views and high showings. That's the best. Everybody's looking at it. People are coming. Okay. There's other tests down the road because traditionally if you get 16 to 18 showings and nobody makes an offer, you're still probably overpriced, but that's very unlikely. Okay.   Andrew Stotz: And is price the only factor that you can adjust here, let's say high views, high showings could be just the type of house, the location, but you don't necessarily control those things?   Andy : No, the one down near the bottom. Low views, high showings. It's ikely a niche piece of property. Not many people are looking at it, but the people that want that niche, whatever may be different, it's a unique piece of property, they'll get a lot of showings relative to their views, because most people aren't interested. But there isn't much else we can do because we spend... We pay for staging. We don't pay for it. We do it. We have our own inventory and staging. We have contractors that we've used for years to help get a house ready. So the product itself, the house, and the presentation, there's never much more we can do to make that better.   Andrew Stotz: And quality in the eyes of the customer is the best price sold quickly, I guess.   Andy : Yes. Yeah. That's right. There's a saying which not everybody agrees with in the real estate industry, but you want to make the most amount of money in the least amount of time with the least amount of hassle.   Andrew Stotz: I think that's everywhere.   Andy : That's true.   Andrew Stotz: Yes. I want that. Great.   Andy : That's what everybody wants, but some people say, well, if it's too fast, you didn't... But that's usually not true. Fast is usually good as long as it's priced right. The next chart I have is a whole other way we use control charts, and that's to evaluate our own performance, which is what this is doing. And it's using sales-to-list price ratios. In other words, what percentage of the list price was the sales? And here we're using a long base period, and I'm just going to back up for a second. In some of the two recent, the ones I did on price drops and supply of inventory, we only had a year worth of, for the base line. And normally it's better to use more than that, but those two years I used were stable, and we didn't go back further because the Fed had been raising interest rates, and that created a... That was not a stable market when they did that, so we didn't want to use that as a history.   Andy : So this is showing our performance, and you can see starting with the pandemic, we went way above the control limits a lot of times. But what you do when you're looking at or using a chart like this for your own improvement is you want to narrow the upper and lower control limits, the two red lines. The closer they get together, the less variation you have, the smaller your standard deviation. And for us, it's 0.2. And our range between what... That's normal is between 95% and 107% of the sales price. And just to how we use it and how we get better at it is we focus on pricing. We focus on improving negotiation, which is a big deal, especially in the last few years. We are always looking to improve our client base. We're always looking to improve our preparation and presentation. We think we got that pretty well down pat. And the other thing is to stay within your area of expertise, because when you go out of that, okay, if I was to work on a house out of my market, okay, I wouldn't get this kind of performance. So that's going to lead me to the next and really the final chart. And that's another group, okay? And I'm using this group because... Just to...   Andrew Stotz: Sorry, when you say another group, what do you mean?   Andy : It's not my team, no offense industry...   Andrew Stotz: So it's a competitor or it's...   Andy : This is a well-known group. It's led by two Ivy League graduates. And it's a much bigger team than ours. Their standard... And it's the same base period, 2017 to '19. Their standard deviation is three times what ours is. Their range of what they do within the control limits is 78% to 114%. And that... Why do we do this? Why do we care? It's always nice to benchmark yourself. But most of all, with groups or agents that we compete with, if these guys put a house on the market, okay, and we thought it was overpriced, or let's say we thought it was underpriced, okay, and it was competing with one of ours, we wouldn't tell our client to reduce their price to match their price, okay, because we know they probably are underpricing. In this case, we'd say let it go. Likewise, if we're working with a buyer who's buying one of their houses and we think it's overpriced, what their listing is overpriced, then we will probably make a lower offer knowing that they also know that their pricing can be way off. So understanding your clients and where they fit on these control charts is useful information.   Andrew Stotz: And I can imagine that some people, let's say, at another firm, as an example, may say, oh, I don't care about this variability because one side of the mean is more favorable than the other, so I'm just trying to get to that other side. Whereas what you're saying is I'm trying to reduce variation around the mean.   Andy : Yes, and that'll take me to this last section I have here. If we compare the two groups, what are the major differences? Number one, if it was a million-dollar listing, okay, we would probably get $43,000 more than they would based on these control charts. Most of all, the biggest difference...   Andrew Stotz: The selling price of your customer would be $43,500 more?   Andy : Well, our average selling price is a little over 100%. Their average selling price is 96%. So on average, they're getting $43,000 less on $1 million house than we are. But the most important thing in this is the consistency and the predictability of when you lower those control chart limits, you're making your performance much more predictable, and it's an important part to all of our clients. I mean, Deming had a... One of the things he used to say is quality is in the customer's eyes, not your eyes. So I can say we do all this great stuff and all that. It all boils down to what does the customer think. And when a group's working on volume, which is pretty typical in our industry, that's what we're taught, how to get more volume, how to get more volume, that's... The customer doesn't care. The client doesn't care about what kind of volume they do. What the customer cares about is service. And you can see some of the other things, consistency over time, process control and all that. I'll get out of here now and say that that's really what control charts and Deming's philosophy and the PDSA, it all focuses on quality in the customer's eyes, consistent performance, better service, and not a lot of guesswork. We're using data that other agents don't even know exists. And that's unfortunately not an exaggeration, really. I've never talked to anybody that knew about this.   Andrew Stotz: When Deming talked about quality, he often referenced the idea that you could have a quality system in place and still go out of business if you weren't looking at quality in the eyes of the customer and being completely connected to the customer. And I have a little story on this from my coffee business. Many years ago, we had a restaurant chain in Thailand that's a global chain come to us and we won the bid. And they said, we chose you over all these other suppliers for coffee and we're going to come to your factory and when we do, we're going to do an audit, we're going to ask 600 questions and if you get below 75% or whatever, you're fired. But, hey, I knew Deming and I knew all of this stuff and we cared about quality and we never had quality problems, so we thought we're in good shape. And they came out and they said, your score was 68, you're fired. You have six weeks to fix it or you won't be our supplier. Well, we learned something very quickly there, which was to them, paperwork was quality.   Andrew Stotz: And that was a quality system to them that meant that we had quality. And so we had a passion for quality, but we didn't have the paperwork system that they wanted. So luckily, when you have passion for quality, it's pretty easy to overlay a paperwork system on it, if that's what the customer required. I would hate to be in the opposite situation where you go and do like many people when they go and get certified or ISO or whatever and they build a paperwork system without that commitment to quality. Now, that's a disaster. But the point is that we had to realize that in order for us to satisfy that customer's needs, we had to appeal to quality as they saw it. And so we've got to always keep the customer in mind as we're working on our quality.   Andy : I got another story. My wife reminded me today that sometimes in probably early '80s, maybe mid '80s at the latest, I looked up in the... I wanted to find a statistician and I looked him up in the yellow pages, which a lot of the listeners may not know what that is. And I wanted to... What I wanted to do was find a way to improve, optimize our inventory and try to approach just-in-time inventory because we had factories all over the place and we were getting stuff in. And we never did it. And I imagine with Dr. Deming, we could have done it, but we never did it because exactly the quality's in the customer's eyes. We were shipping to specialty restock stores primarily, and if we couldn't stock their shelves, okay, they went somewhere else. Didn't matter how much they liked us, they had to have those shelves full. So we decided it wasn't worth the risk of just-in-time and optimizing our inventory at the expense of having maybe too much inventory, but satisfying our customers. And it's just so true.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah. Yeah. In the story that I told, that particular chain never ran out of product and certainly never ran out of coffee. And I know myself, being a customer of that chain, never in my life did I walk in there and they ran out of a particular product. And they made that very clear. That's quality to us is that our supply chains are never broken. And for 16 years, we never broke their supply chains. It was never the case. So in the eyes of the customer, well, on behalf of everyone at the Deming Institute, I want to thank you again for this discussions and for listeners, remember to go to Deming.org to continue your journey. But I thought I would leave the closing comments to you to maybe wrap up and give the audience what you think should be their main takeaway from this discussion.   Andy : I think probably the main takeaway would be that Dr. Deming's philosophy, the Profound Knowledge, everything he taught is as relevant to real estate, okay, pricing, probably most markets as it is to a factory or production or anything like that. I think that it took me a while, after I became a realtor, it took me a while to realize, wow, all these things we can use. And we have more data to play with than anybody. So that's a good takeaway for anybody, especially realtors.   Andrew Stotz: Yeah, I think, and I'll just add on, I enjoyed the conversation because I love Michael Porter's stuff and talking about figuring out where's your niche and trying to bring a differentiated offering to the market. And that differentiated offering could be based on what I like to say from my study and teaching of corporate strategy is there's kind of two main corporate strategies. One I would say is the type that engineers build, which is an operational corporate strategy. And another one is a differentiating strategy that a sales type of person would build, which is about the interaction with sales, with the product and all of that. And so with Dr. Deming, one of the benefits we get is the process part of our business can just be improved forever. And then we can overlay that with whatever we want from what we bring to the market. And I think you've given us an example of how you can apply Deming's principles to the process of your business and do that in a niche area or an area that you've defined and dominate. And so I love that.   Andy : Yeah, and one of the things, just a last thought, is something you and I had talked about, is you don't have to have a PhD in physics or you don't have to get a doctorate in something to understand Deming. And he even says it in his book. You don't have to be an expert in any of it. You just have to understand it. And that's the beauty of it. Anybody can do what I'm doing with just nowhere near the effort you'd have to do if you were going to be a physicist or something else like that. And that's something people can take away.   Andrew Stotz: And on that hopeful note, this is your host, Andrew Stotz, and I'm going to leave you with one of my favorite quotes from Dr. Deming. I always repeat it because it's such a great quote, and that is, "people are entitled to joy in work."      

Dime qué piensas del episodio.La Dra. María Patricia Restrepo @drpatriciarestrepo, químico y médico de formación, con más de 23 años integrando ciencia moderna, medicina funcional y saberes ancestrales para ayudar a las personas a sanar de raíz. Su historia es tan personal como profesional: revirtió su propia diabetes y acompañó a su hijo en un proceso de inflamación cerebral, experiencias que la llevaron a entender que los síntomas no son enemigos, sino el idioma del cuerpo pidiéndonos atención. Desde sus consultorios en Miami y ahora a través de proyectos como Keat y BeBoon, Patricia promueve una visión regenerativa de la salud donde la comida deja de ser solo placer para convertirse en medicina viva, y donde cada uno se convierte en el verdadero experto de su propio bienestar.Hoy Patricia y yo hablamos de serte fiel a ti mismo, de romper paradigmas y de cómo construir salud para vivir tu mejor vida.Por favor ayúdame y sigue Cracks Podcast en YouTube aquí."Cada decisión que tomas frente al plato es un voto por tu futuro."-  @drpatriciarestrepoComparte esta frase en TwitterEste episodio es presentado por Hospital Angeles Health System que cuenta con  el programa de cirugía robótica más robusto en el sector privado en México y por LegaLario la empresa de tecnología legal que ayuda a reducir costos y tiempos de gestión hasta un 80%.Qué puedes aprender hoyCómo disminuir la toxcicidad via tu pielEl rol de la microbiota en la salud mentalQué significa serte fiel a ti mismo*Este episodio es presentado por Hospital Angeles Health SystemLos avances en cirugía robótica permiten intervenciones con menos sangrado, menos dolor, cicatrices más pequeñas y una recuperación más rápida.Hospital Angeles Health System tiene el programa de cirugía robótica más robusto en el sector privado en México. Cuenta con 13 robots DaVinci, el más avanzado del mundo y con el mayor número de médicos certificados en cirugía robótica ya que tiene el único centro de capacitación de cirugía robótica en el país.Este es el futuro de la cirugía. Si quieres conocer más sobre el programa de cirugía robótica de Hospital Angeles Health System y ver el directorio de doctores visita cracks.la/angeles*Este episodio es presentado por LegaLario, la Legaltech líder en México.Con LegaLario, puedes transformar la manera en que manejas los acuerdos legales de tu empresa. Desde la creación y gestión de contratos electrónicos hasta la recolección de firmas digitales y la validación de identidades, LegaLario cumple rigurosamente con la legislación mexicana y las normativas internacionales.LegaLario ha ayudado a empresas de todos los tamaños y sectores a reducir costos y tiempos de gestión hasta un 80%. Y lo más importante, garantiza la validez legal de cada proceso y la seguridad de tu información, respaldada por certificaciones ISO 27001.Para ti que escuchas Cracks, LegaLario ofrece un 20% de descuento visitando www.legalario.com/cracks. Ve el episodio en Youtube

In this episode, Craig Jeffery and Mayank Randev explore ISO 20022 and what it means for payments, cash reporting, and treasury strategy. They discuss how richer data and global standards offer more than compliance and open the door to automation, resilience, and better insights. How can corporates turn a required change into lasting value? Listen in to find out.  

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Salvatore Gariuolo, a senior threat researcher at Trend Micro, joins the Nexus Podcast to discuss safe EV charging and in particular, the ISO 15118 standard meant to create a trusted environment for electric vehicle charging. Gariuolo contends that while ISO 15118 offers substantial improvements that reduce pressure on the grid, and also introduces a handful of cybersecurity enhancements, it is not sufficient to fully secure the EV charging ecosystem.Listen and subscribe to the Nexus Podcast

Michelle Obama's thoughts on men spark a heated and thought-provoking discussion on this episode of the Ern and Iso Podcast!

Trauma isn't just in your mind—it can live in your body, shaping how your gut feels and functions.   On this episode of The Gut Show I talk to @drriehl from @theguthealthpodcast and we explore what trauma is, how it connects to IBS, feelings of hopelessness and options for treatment.    Mentioned in this episode:  Tailored to the Core: Breathing, Bloating and Precision Medicine: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2293918/episodes/17382514 Poop Personality Quiz: https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/657789ba420624001409ca1a   MASTER Method Membership: https://www.ibsmastermethod.com/master-method     About our guest:  Dr. Megan Riehl, PsyD, AGAF is an Associate Professor of Medicine at the University of Michigan and a leading expert in psychogastroenterology. With a full-time clinical practice, she specializes in GI behavioral health, providing patient care, peer consultation, and professional training. Dr. Riehl also holds key leadership roles within Michigan Medicine focused on the area of wellbeing. A recognized thought leader, she serves on the national Board of Trustees for the Crohn's and Colitis Foundation. She is also the co-author of Mind Your Gut: The Science-Based, Whole-Body Guide to Living Well with IBS and co-host of The Gut Health Podcast alongside Kate Scarlata.   Mind Your Gut: https://amzn.to/3Ji96HB GI Psychology: www.gipsychology.com Psychology Today: www.psychologytoday.com  The Gut Health Podcast: https://theguthealthpodcast.buzzsprout.com     Thank you to our partners: This episode is made possible with support from Ardelyx. @gemellibiotech offers trusted, science-backed at-home tests for conditions like SIBO, IMO, ISO, and post-infectious IBS.  Their Trio-Smart breath test measures all three key gases: hydrogen, methane, and hydrogen sulfide to detect different forms of microbial overgrowth. And for those with IBS symptoms, IBS-Smart is a simple blood test that can confirm post-infectious IBS with clinical accuracy. You simply order the test, complete it at home, send it back, and get clinically backed results in about a week that you can take to your provider!  Find out which tests are right for you at getgutanswers.com and use code ERINJUDGE25 to save $35 on your order! @fodzyme is the world's first enzyme supplement specialized to target FODMAPs. When sprinkled on or mixed with high-FODMAP meals, FODZYME's novel patent-pending enzyme blend breaks down fructan, GOS and lactose before they can trigger bloating, gas and other digestive issues. With FODZYME, enjoy garlic, onion, wheat, Brussels sprouts, beans, dairy and more — worry free! Discover the power of FODZYME's digestive enzyme blend and eat the foods you love and miss. Visit fodzyme.com and save 20% off your first order with code THEGUTSHOW. One use per customer.    

New wave of NFC relay fraud, call hijacking, and root exploits in banking sector Canada's House of Commons suffers cyberattack Zoom fixes critical Windows client flaw that could enable privilege escalation Huge thanks to our sponsor, Vanta Do you know the status of your compliance controls right now? Like...right now? We know that real-time visibility is critical for security, but when it comes to our GRC programs…we rely on point-in-time checks. But more than 9,000 companies have continuous visibility into their controls with Vanta. Vanta brings automation to evidence collection across over 35 frameworks, like SOC 2 and ISO 27001. They also centralize key workflows like policies, access reviews, and reporting, and helps you get security questionnaires done 5 times faster with AI. Now that's…a new way to GRC. Get started at Vanta.com/headlines Find the stories behind the headlines at CISOseries.com.

Link to episode page This week's Cyber Security Headlines – Week in Review is hosted by Rich Stroffolino with guest Steve Zalewski, co-host, Defense in Depth Thanks to our show sponsor, Vanta Do you know the status of your compliance controls right now? Like…right now? We know that real-time visibility is critical for security, but when it comes to our GRC programs…we rely on point-in-time checks. But more than 9,000 companies have continuous visibility into their controls with Vanta. Vanta brings automation to evidence collection across over 35 frameworks, like SOC 2 and ISO 27001. They also centralize key workflows like policies, access reviews, and reporting, and helps you get security questionnaires done 5 times faster with AI. Now that's…a new way to GRC. Get started at Vanta.com/headlines All links and the video of this episode can be found on CISO Series.com    

In Search Of… “Cryogenics” Recorded: 26 July 2025 Edited: 14 Aug 2025 Released: 15 Aug 2025 Links: Was frozen mammoth or giant ground sloth served for dinner at The Explorers Club? (Past) | Center for Genetic Analyses of Biodiversity Revival of a ‘Frozen' Dog--Some Cold New Disclosures (L.A. Times, July 6, 1987) But What Will The Neighbors Think? A Discourse On The History And Rationale Of Neurosuspension - Cryonics Archive In The Beginning: Vitrification or Freezing (PDF) Inside TransTime Cryonics Facility: Bodies Frozen, Awaiting A Future Reawakening - CBS San Francisco (2019) Luna Wilson - Cryonics Wiki How Robert Anton Wilson's Daughter "Luna Wilson" became a cryogenically frozen brain in a vat Screenshotfrom2024-01-0615-02-03.png I Want to Rewatch - In Search of... “Immortailty” Music: “Dark Science” by David Hilowitz “The Truth Is What We Make of It” by The Agrarians All our episodes are at iwtrw.com (or at iwanttorewatch.com, if you want to type more letters for some reason). Links for everything else I Want To Rewatch-related (including our sweet merch) are at the IWTRW Bio Site.

Join us in this conversation as we discuss the Conference Motion to change the wording of Tradition Eleven to read: "Our public relations policy is based on attraction, rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity across all public platforms." To send feedback on the Motion change to Area 54, email: areaassembly@saauk.info https://saa-iso.org/mbrs/docs/conf2024/2024-D006(MotionToChangeTraditionEleven).pdf (password protected) We need your story for the Green Book! New stories that reflect recovery involving technologies from the past twenty years.  Submit your stories at https://saa-recovery.org/gbstories   Share infomation about the Sex Addicts Recovery Podcast at your SAA Meeting:  The Sex Addicts Recovery Podcast available on all major podcasting platforms and is a project of the Bay Area Intergroup of SAA. Find Links to podcast platforms: https://sexaddictsrecoverypod.com/ Listen Directly: https://sarpod.libsyn.com/ https://bayareasaa.org/podcast/ Apple Podcasts Spotify Podcasts YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn0dcZg-Ou7giI4YkXGXsBWDHJgtymw9q   YouTube Links to music in this episode (used for educational purposes): Be Still the Earth / Ether Valley - Redecay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gssFuohi47Y Antarctic Wastelands / Ether Valley - Solarspaces: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsTyY0CDb80 Ether Valley - Soulshimmers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R4Ar9wcSaY We Dream of Eden - For The Wandering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ZzlNjLE7g Tool - Soundscape Intro and Vicarious Live Bill Graham Civic 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV4reSWBxro "Jason's soundscape with Garageband" Heilung - Fylgija Ear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UwOZJPXA60 Heilung - Norupo (Live): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo1SJMkXFic "Tell Me What It Takes" Devin Townsend Project - Fly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo1SJMkXFic Nomad - Gathering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDjNajhxu4     Be sure to reach us via email: feedback@sexaddictsrecoverypod.com If you are comfortable and interested in being a guest or panelist, please feel free to contact me. jason@sexaddictsrecoverypod.com SARPodcast YouTube Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn0dcZg-Ou7giI4YkXGXsBWDHJgtymw9q To find meetings in the San Francisco Bay Area, be sure to visit: https://www.bayareasaa.org/meetings To find meetings in the your local area or online, be sure to visit the main SAA website: https://saa-recovery.org/meetings/ The content of this podcast has not been approved by and may not reflect the opinions or policies of the ISO of SAA, Inc.      

Hack of federal court filing system exploited security flaws known since 2020 Pennsylvania attorney general says cyberattack knocked phone, email systems offline Spike in Fortinet VPN brute-force attacks raises zero-day concerns Huge thanks to our sponsor, Vanta Do you know the status of your compliance controls right now? Like...right now? We know that real-time visibility is critical for security, but when it comes to our GRC programs…we rely on point-in-time checks. But more than 9,000 companies have continuous visibility into their controls with Vanta. Vanta brings automation to evidence collection across over 35 frameworks, like SOC 2 and ISO 27001. They also centralize key workflows like policies, access reviews, and reporting, and helps you get security questionnaires done 5 times faster with AI. Now that's…a new way to GRC. Get started at Vanta.com/headlines  

Crave certain high FODMAP foods but struggle to enjoy them without IBS symptoms? Ever wish there was a magic pill that let you eat what you love, without the symptoms? That's exactly what the founders of FODZYME set out to create… and they made it happen! Listen to this bonus episode of The Gut Show as I talk with the founders of FODZYME about how they came up with this idea and how it works.   Thank you to our partners:   @fodzyme FODZYME is the world's first enzyme supplement specialized to target FODMAPs. When sprinkled on or mixed with high-FODMAP meals, FODZYME's novel patent-pending enzyme blend breaks down fructan, GOS and lactose before they can trigger bloating, gas and other digestive issues.   With FODZYME, enjoy garlic, onion, wheat, Brussels sprouts, beans, dairy and more — worry free! Discover the power of FODZYME's digestive enzyme blend and eat the foods you love and miss.   Visit fodzyme.com and save 20% off your first order with code THEGUTSHOW. One use per customer. This episode is made possible with support from Ardelyx. @gemellibiotech offers trusted, science-backed at-home tests for conditions like SIBO, IMO, ISO, and post-infectious IBS.  Their Trio-Smart breath test measures all three key gases: hydrogen, methane, and hydrogen sulfide to detect different forms of microbial overgrowth. And for those with IBS symptoms, IBS-Smart is a simple blood test that can confirm post-infectious IBS with clinical accuracy. You simply order the test, complete it at home, send it back, and get clinically backed results in about a week that you can take to your provider!  Find out which tests are right for you at getgutanswers.com and use code ERINJUDGE25 to save $35 on your order!

The hits just keep on coming Where's the Little Dutch Boy when you need him? I felt the ransomware down in Africa Huge thanks to our sponsor, Vanta Do you know the status of your compliance controls right now? Like...right now? We know that real-time visibility is critical for security, but when it comes to our GRC programs…we rely on point-in-time checks. But more than 9,000 companies have continuous visibility into their controls with Vanta. Vanta brings automation to evidence collection across over 35 frameworks, like SOC 2 and ISO 27001. They also centralize key workflows like policies, access reviews, and reporting, and helps you get security questionnaires done 5 times faster with AI. Now that's…a new way to GRC. Get started at Vanta.com/headlines Find the stories behind the headlines at CISOseries.com

Will I Am sparked major waves with his hot take on Black Thought being "a trillion times better" than Jay Z

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North Korean crypto theft Microsoft rolls out PC back up during attack U.S. charges four in $100M global fraud scheme Huge thanks to our sponsor, Vanta Do you know the status of your compliance controls right now? Like...right now? We know that real-time visibility is critical for security, but when it comes to our GRC programs…we rely on point-in-time checks. But more than 9,000 companies have continuous visibility into their controls with Vanta. Vanta brings automation to evidence collection across over 35 frameworks, like SOC 2 and ISO 27001. They also centralize key workflows like policies, access reviews, and reporting, and helps you get security questionnaires done 5 times faster with AI. Now that's…a new way to GRC. Get started at Vanta.com/headlines  

I am joined by audio and video production expert Tomas George. We dive deep into the essentials of setting up a quality podcast studio, debunking common myths about equipment and emphasizing the importance of affordable yet effective solutions. We cover the vital role of lenses over cameras, the benefits of dynamic microphones over condensers, and practical advice for lighting and storage. Thomas shares his expertise on camera settings, explaining concepts like aperture, ISO, and white balance, and offers tips for newcomers on choosing the right gear without overspending. Whether you're starting out or looking to upgrade your setup, this episode is packed with valuable insights to help you produce a top-notch video podcast.00:00 Introduction and Host's Background02:12 Guest Introduction and Background02:39 Starting a Podcast Without Expertise04:04 First Impressions of the Podcast Studio04:24 Challenges of Video Podcasting05:32 Technical Tips for Video Production07:03 Understanding Camera Settings09:11 Choosing the Right Equipment21:03 Importance of Audio Quality21:48 Microphone RecommendationsSend us a textBook a Discovery Call with me! Sign up for Descript now! Need a stunning new logo for your brand? Or maybe a short animation?Whatever you need, you can find it on Fiverr.I've been using Fiverr for years for everything from ordering YouTube thumbnails, translation services, keyword research, writing SEO articles to Canva designs and more!

In Part 2 of our conversation with certified lead auditor Jess Teasdake, we dig deeper into what it really takes to build an efficient, audit-ready quality management system (QMS). If you caught Part 1, you heard us talk through the big picture: certifications, audits, and what separates a good QMS from a bad one. This time, we're getting tactical. We're not just talking about passing an audit—we're talking about building a system that supports your team, reduces risk, and eliminates waste across your business. From risk registers and RPN scoring to digitizing your paperwork and planning with cross-functional teams, we cover the actual tools and habits that make quality real on the shop floor. Along the way, we share stories from our own shops—what's worked, what hasn't, and how integrated technology has changed the game. We've lived the paper-chasing, binder-filled chaos that too many shops call a QMS. And we've seen what happens when you replace it with a connected system that actually reflects how your shop runs day to day. If you're working toward certification—or just want to build a culture of quality that doesn't require heroics to maintain—this episode is your blueprint. Segments (0:26) Grow your top and bottom line with CLA (2:53) Recap of Part 1 + why efficient QMS design matters in regulated industries (3:33) Defining and mapping core processes from RFQ to shipment (6:23) Risk-based thinking: risk registers, RPN scoring, and real-world examples (9:11) Tracking and improving risk scores over time with team input (11:33) Cross-functional planning: involving machinists, programmers, and QA early (12:57) Ballooned drawings, IPCs, and quality planning before the job hits the floor (14:01) Integrated quality checkpoints: from receiving to signoffs and inspection (16:20) Why going paperless saves time and improves accuracy (17:56) Join us at Top Shops 2025! (18:51) Quality as a company-wide responsibility—not a department (21:12) Digital documentation strategy and collaboration tips (23:26) How to implement QMS step by step (26:55) Linking vs. integrating: what real QMS tech should do (29:50) Before & after ProShop: how integrated QMS changed our audit process (33:46) Certification myths: ISO, AS9100, and audit readiness every day (35:53) Why QMS should be built into your tech stack and team culture (38:07) Use Hire MFG Leaders to recruit the next level of talent Resources mentioned on this episode Machine Shop MBA: Planning for Precision Register for Top Shops 2025 now: Get 20% off with code: MAK20 Connect With MakingChips www.MakingChips.com On Facebook On LinkedIn On Instagram On Twitter On YouTube

In this episode, host Etienne Nichols speaks with Greenlight Guru's Christine Wilbert, an expert in Electronic Data Capture (EDC) systems for Clinical Research Organizations (CROs). They discuss the critical factors CROs must consider when selecting an EDC solution. Christine highlights that the biggest mistake is a lack of due diligence and not planning for future needs beyond a single study. She emphasizes the importance of looking for a solution that can scale with a company's growth, from pilot studies to pivotal trials, and warns against hidden costs and inadequate post-sales support.The conversation delves into what truly matters in an EDC platform, such as intuitive design, speed of implementation, and the ability to handle repeatable processes. Christine shares that while some vendors may offer "bells and whistles," the core value lies in a lean, efficient system tailored to medical device trials. They also touch on the importance of involving all stakeholders, including site users like clinicians and healthcare professionals, to ensure system adoption and maintain data integrity.Finally, the discussion explores how an EDC system can help CROs win more business. Christine explains that having a scalable, pre-validated solution and a vendor that actively supports business development can be a significant advantage. They also cover the essential compliance features for global trials, such as FDA 21 CFR Part 11 and ISO 14155, and the growing role of hybrid and decentralized trials. Christine's final advice to CROs is to "do your due diligence" and select a solution that's a true partner for long-term success.Key Timestamps00:02:39 - Biggest mistakes CROs make when choosing an EDC.00:03:00 - The importance of future planning and scalability.00:04:40 - The value of post-sales support and avoiding hidden fees.00:05:31 - Essential features versus "vendor noise" and unnecessary bells and whistles.00:08:11 - The analogy of a "battleship" vs. a "ninja" in problem-solving.00:09:13 - Identifying key stakeholders for successful EDC implementation.00:11:17 - Challenges and strategies for engaging healthcare professionals.00:13:31 - When to start looking for an EDC solution and the typical timeline.00:15:44 - The onboarding process and what successful companies do in the first few months.00:18:39 - How CROs can use an EDC solution to win more business.00:20:52 - Global compliance considerations (FDA, EU MDR) for EDC platforms.00:23:36 - Features CROs think they need but don't (e.g., QMS integration).00:26:03 - Adapting to hybrid and decentralized trials.00:27:22 - The key takeaway: do your due diligence and seek a true partner.Quotes"I would say the biggest issue is lack of due diligence... they're not necessarily thinking down the line, 'how is this going to scale with this specific company that they're working with?'""The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."TakeawaysPrioritize Scalability and Long-Term Planning: Don't choose an EDC solution just for a single pilot study. Evaluate whether the platform can handle the complexity and size of pivotal and post-market studies to avoid costly transitions in the future.Look for True Partnership, Not Just a Vendor: A successful relationship with an EDC provider goes beyond the initial sale. Seek a vendor with strong post-sales support and a willingness to collaborate on...

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In this episode of the Ern and Iso Podcast, the fellas dive into a What If... conversation: What if Wakanda was actually real? 

If you've ever wondered how pelvic floor therapy fits into gut health, this episode of The Gut Show is for you!   Dr. Janelle shares what vaginismus is, how this relates to IBS, how pelvic floor PT can help, and where to start if this is something you're struggling with.   You are not the only one dealing with this.   Mentioned in this episode:  What's your poop personality quiz MASTER Method Membership   About our guest:  Dr. Janelle Frederick (formerly Dr. Janelle Howell), DPT, WCS The Vagina Rehab Doctor | Award-Winning Pelvic Floor Specialist Dr. Janelle Frederick, known as the Vagina Rehab Doctor, is a world-renowned pelvic floor specialist dedicated to helping individuals overcome pelvic floor dysfunction and reclaim their confidence. Recently married, she proudly embraces her new name while continuing her mission to break the stigma surrounding pelvic health. Originally from a small city in Alabama, Dr. Janelle brings warmth, expertise, and a passion for empowering others. Her groundbreaking work has earned her the prestigious title of Sexpert of the Year 2022 and widespread recognition in publications such as The New York Times, US News & World Report, Essence Magazine, and Insider. She has also been a featured guest on leading platforms like Therapy for Black Girls, where she shares her expertise on sexual health, intimacy, and pelvic wellness. As an award-winning doctor, speaker, and advocate, Dr. Janelle is on a mission to educate and empower people about the wonders of their bodies. Through speaking engagements, media appearances, and clinical practice, she continues to lead the charge in revolutionizing pelvic health care." Website: https://www.vaginarehabdoctor.com Podcast: The Vagina Rehab Doctor Podcast Instagram: @vaginarehabdoctor   Thank you to our partners: This episode is made possible with support from Ardelyx. Gemelli Biotech offers trusted, science-backed at-home tests for conditions like SIBO, IMO, ISO, and post-infectious IBS.  Their Trio-Smart breath test measures all three key gases: hydrogen, methane, and hydrogen sulfide to detect different forms of microbial overgrowth. And for those with IBS symptoms, IBS-Smart is a simple blood test that can confirm post-infectious IBS with clinical accuracy. You simply order the test, complete it at home, send it back, and get clinically backed results in about a week that you can take to your provider!  Find out which tests are right for you at getgutanswers.com and use code ERINJUDGE25 to save $35 on your order! FODZYME is the world's first enzyme supplement specialized to target FODMAPs. When sprinkled on or mixed with high-FODMAP meals, FODZYME's novel patent-pending enzyme blend breaks down fructan, GOS and lactose before they can trigger bloating, gas and other digestive issues. With FODZYME, enjoy garlic, onion, wheat, Brussels sprouts, beans, dairy and more — worry free! Discover the power of FODZYME's digestive enzyme blend and eat the foods you love and miss. Visit fodzyme.com and save 20% off your first order with code THEGUTSHOW. One use per customer.   Connect with Erin Judge, RD:  IG: https://www.instagram.com/erinjudge.rd TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@erinjudge.rd   Work with Gutivate:  https://gutivate.com/services

Have you ever wondered what it's really like to work as a medical device consultant or ISO 13485 auditor? In this episode of the Medical Device Made Easy Podcast, I sit down with Adam Isaac, an industry expert who made the leap from engineering student to successful entrepreneur in the MedTech world. Adam's journey is a masterclass in career transformation. Without prior experience in Regulatory Affairs & Quality Assurance (RAQA), he navigated the complex world of compliance and built a thriving consultancy business — all without traditional advertising. What you'll discover in this episode:

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In this powerful and eye-opening episode of the Ern and Iso Podcast, the duo dives deep into the controversial “Return to the Land” settlement — a modern-day whites-only community hidden in the Ozark Hills of Arkansas.