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Oracles are the center of DeFi. They're not just important, they're *vital*. But with the rise of high-performance blockchains, oracles are having to rethink their entire game plan.In today's episode, we sit down with Marcin and Jakub from RedStone to explore oracles at their breaking point as blockchains get faster and more demanding. This isn't just another Chainlink competitor story, it's about real incidents exposing oracle design complexities.From the Hyperliquid backstop failure to the Polymarket/UMA exploit and Pyth's costly price freeze, we examine how different oracle systems fail. Marcin and Jakub take us behind the scenes, breaking down geographic challenges, data delivery models, and the unique demands of scaling for systems like MegaETH.We also cover why zkTLS won't replace oracles soon, the true costs of Ethereum updates, and what it takes to reliably serve hundreds of blockchains simultaneously. Let's get into it. Join The Rollup Edge: https://members.therollup.coWebsite: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupcoFollow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollupFollow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandyJoin our TG group: https://t.me/+8ARkR_YZixE5YjBhThe Rollup Disclosures: https://therollup.co/the-rollup-discl

Marc Tillement is the Director of Pyth Network, leading the network's expansion across the DeFi ecosystem and governance landscape. As one of the first non-technical contributors, Marc has had an incredible opportunity to voice his opinion on the direction of Pyth Network since early 2021. His work focuses on business development, strategic partnerships, and governance initiatives, ensuring Pyth Network's presence across major DAOs and protocols. Marc's background spans both TradFi and emerging technologies; after earning his Business Marketing degree from the University of Exeter in 2018, he moved to Hong Kong, where he worked in the radiology sector at Guerbet, designing go-to-market strategies and managing APAC operations. After experiencing 2020's DeFi summer firsthand, Marc became an advocate for Pyth as the universal price layer for DeFi, working to expand its adoption, foster new integrations, and drive the next wave of financial innovation.

Marc Tillement is the Director of Pyth Network, leading the network's expansion across the DeFi ecosystem and governance landscape. As one of the first non-technical contributors, Marc has had an incredible opportunity to voice his opinion on the direction of Pyth Network since early 2021. His work focuses on business development, strategic partnerships, and governance initiatives, ensuring Pyth Network's presence across major DAOs and protocols. Marc's background spans both TradFi and emerging technologies; after earning his Business Marketing degree from the University of Exeter in 2018, he moved to Hong Kong, where he worked in the radiology sector at Guerbet, designing go-to-market strategies and managing APAC operations. After experiencing 2020's DeFi summer firsthand, Marc became an advocate for Pyth as the universal price layer for DeFi, working to expand its adoption, foster new integrations, and drive the next wave of financial innovation.

Mike Cahill is the Founder and CEO of Douro Labs, building oracle tooling, products, and Web3 infra for Pyth Network's suite of decentralized data services.In this episode, we discuss the vision for Pyth Network to make the price of everything, available everywhere onchain. Pyth is a household name among DeFi oracle providers for a reason, with 600 data feeds, 470 apps, and over 90 blockchains supported. But it didn't happen overnight! As a former high frequency trader at Jump, Mike shares the origin story for recognizing where DeFi would evolve and why he leaped at the chance to build Pyth. We also dive in their latest release of Pyth Lazer 1 ms price feeds, their partnership with Revolut, and where they are focused building next in 2025 to support a world rapidly migrating onchain.------

Over 28% of validators now signal a gas limit increase. Pyth introduces Pyth Lazer. Web3.js is sunsetting in March 2025. And Ethereum researchers outline methods for optimal resource allocation. Read more: https://ethdaily.io/626

Drop 1: Illuvium to add AI agentshttps://decrypt.co/299899/ethereum-game-illuvium-ai-agent-virtuals-protocolDrop 2: Staking legislation UK 2025https://www.theblock.co/post/334002/uk-exempts-crypto-staking-from-collective-investment-scheme-rulesDrop 3: Revolut + Pyth Networkhttps://cointelegraph.com/news/pyth-revolut-partnership-defi-data-integration Mais: Base camera allows photographers to take low resolution photos and store them on-chain on Base https://x.com/basecamera/status/1874842153668727197Crypto bank Custodia Achieves SOC 2 Type II Compliance Certificationhttps://custodiabank.com/press/soc-2-compliance/Babylon Labs to connect Bitcoin to Cosmos via BitVM2 trust-minimized bridgehttps://www.coindesk.com/tech/2025/01/10/babylon-labs-brings-new-momentum-to-bitcoin-zk-tech-through-bridge-to-cosmos-chainsStakware launches SN Stack to power appchains on StarkNethttps://www.coindesk.com/tech/2025/01/07/starkware-launches-appchains-on-starknet-with-new-developer-toolkit . Redes sociais / comms.. Instagram.com/blockdropspodcast.. Twitter.com/blockdropspod.. Blockdrops.lens .. https://warpcast.com/mauriciomagaldi.. youtube.com/@BlockDropsPodcast.. Meu conteúdo em inglês twitter.com/0xmauricio.. Newsletter do linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7056680685142454272.. blockdropspodcast@gmail.com

Drop 1: Illuvium to add AI agentshttps://decrypt.co/299899/ethereum-game-illuvium-ai-agent-virtuals-protocolDrop 2: Staking legislation UK 2025https://www.theblock.co/post/334002/uk-exempts-crypto-staking-from-collective-investment-scheme-rulesDrop 3: Revolut + Pyth Networkhttps://cointelegraph.com/news/pyth-revolut-partnership-defi-data-integration Base camera allows photographers to take low resolution photos and store them on-chain on Base https://x.com/basecamera/status/1874842153668727197Crypto bank Custodia Achieves SOC 2 Type II Compliance Certificationhttps://custodiabank.com/press/soc-2-compliance/Babylon Labs to connect Bitcoin to Cosmos via BitVM2 trust-minimized bridgehttps://www.coindesk.com/tech/2025/01/10/babylon-labs-brings-new-momentum-to-bitcoin-zk-tech-through-bridge-to-cosmos-chainsStakware launches SN Stack to power appchains on StarkNethttps://www.coindesk.com/tech/2025/01/07/starkware-launches-appchains-on-starknet-with-new-developer-toolkit . Redes sociais / comms.. Instagram.com/blockdropspodcast.. Twitter.com/blockdropspod.. Blockdrops.lens .. https://warpcast.com/mauriciomagaldi.. youtube.com/@BlockDropsPodcast.. Meu conteúdo em inglês twitter.com/0xmauricio.. Newsletter do linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7056680685142454272.. blockdropspodcast@gmail.com

Phala launches its OP Succinct L2. Derive unveils an AI-powered terminal. Revolut becomes a Pyth data publisher. And Aave celebrates five years since launching Aave V1. Read more: https://ethdaily.io/621

The DeFi landscape has significantly evolved since 2018 when Chainlink was launched. Recent developments such as L2 rollups, liquid staking, restaking and the rise of BTC DeFi have created huge demand for more customizable, modular oracles that would be able to provide accurate data for countless use cases, crosschain. RedStone set out to do exactly that and are now securing over $6.6 bn worth of assets (1000+ assets), across more than 60 chains, without a single mispricing event.Topics covered in this episode:Marcin's backgroundEarly oracle landscapeRedStone's technical architectureNetwork incentivesData aggregation moduleNode operator modulePush vs. Pull oraclesRedStone's business modelThe role of RedStone tokenPyth vs. RedStoneRestakingOracle extractable valueSynergies between oracles and institutional investorsEpisode links:Marcin Kazmierczak on XRedStone on XSponsors:Gnosis: Gnosis builds decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem, since 2015. This year marks the launch of Gnosis Pay— the world's first Decentralized Payment Network. Get started today at - gnosis.ioChorus1: Chorus1 is one of the largest node operators worldwide, supporting more than 100,000 delegators, across 45 networks. The recently launched OPUS allows staking up to 8,000 ETH in a single transaction. Enjoy the highest yields and institutional grade security at - chorus.oneThis episode is hosted by Brian Fabian Crain.

durée : 00:58:36 - Le Cours de l'histoire - par : Xavier Mauduit, Maïwenn Guiziou - Au 4e siècle avant notre ère, un Marseillais nommé Pythéas prend la mer pour un long voyage qui le mène jusqu'au nord de l'Europe et sans doute au-delà du cercle arctique. S'agit-il du premier explorateur polaire ? Sur quelles connaissances géographiques et astronomiques ce voyage s'appuie-t-il ? - réalisation : Thomas Beau - invités : François Herbaux Journaliste scientifique et écrivain.

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The House on Friday overcame bipartisan objections and passed a $1.2 trillion spending bill to keep most of the federal government funded just hours before a shutdown deadline — but Speaker Mike Johnson's job is being threatened as a result.~This episode is sponsored by Tangem~Tangem ➜ https://bit.ly/TangemPBNUse code "PBN" for a discount!00:00 Intro00:25 Sponsor: Tangem01:13 $1.2 Trillion Spending Bill01:53 Stack of Papers02:54 Calendar03:53 Two Week Paid Holiday04:35 Defense Increase05:14 Pentagon keeps failing audit05:51 Why pentagon fails audits07:55 Using AI?08:39 Enterprises are using Chainlink for Audits10:25 Citi Bank using Chainlink for tokenization13:04 Tokenized assets vs Bitcoin16:20 Dencun upgrade was bigger than you think18:49 $PYTH & $LINK19:30 Preparing for the next generation of investor20:13 The day everything changed21:10 Outro#Crypto #Ethereum #Bitcoin~$1.2 Trillion Spending Bill Needs Chainlink Audit

durée : 00:04:13 - Chroniques littorales - par : Jose Manuel Lamarque - Pythéas, auteur d'un traité géographique intitulé "de l'Océan", Pythéas le Grec de Marseille a vécu au IVᵉ siècle avant notre ère, il ne reste que peu de choses et peu d'écrits de cet explorateur, découvreur de Thulé...

Mike Cahill joins us to discuss how oracles have become the linchpin of crypto. Mike is a core contributor to Pyth, a highly optimized oracle network integrated with 50+ chains and over 300 apps. In this episode, we cover crypto's oracle problem, why Pyth launched an SVM appchain, how Pyth ensures high-quality publishers, Pyth's Wormhole integration, how to monetize financial data, the RWA opportunity, where Chainlink went wrong and more! - - (00:00) Introduction (01:07) The Value of Financial Market Data (06:04) Oracles: The Linchpin of Crypto (08:21) Why Pyth Launched an SVM Appchain (13:28) Permissionless Integrations (15:23) DAS London Plug (16:20) Data Publishers: Quality Control and Incentives (20:43) Pyth's Airdrop and Governance (25:15) Liveness Concerns (28:05) Economics and Trust Minimization (36:23) The RWA Opportunity (46:05) Where Chainlink Went Wrong (51:41) Evaluating Crypto's Ecosystems - - Join us at DAS (Digital Asset Summit) in London this March! DAS is the #1 institutional conference in crypto, hosted by Blockworks. Use the link below to learn more, and use LIGHTSPEED10 to get 10% off your ticket! Sign up now because the price goes up every month. See you there! Learn more + get your ticket here: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2024-london/home - - Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/mdomcahill Follow Mert: https://twitter.com/0xMert_ Follow Garrett: https://twitter.com/GarrettHarper_ Follow Lightspeed: https://twitter.com/Lightspeedpodhq Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/43o3Syk Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3OhiXgV Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OkF7PD Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Resources Pyth Network https://twitter.com/PythNetwork Douro Labs https://twitter.com/DouroLabs - -  Disclaimers: Lightspeed was kickstarted by a grant from the Solana Foundation. Nothing said on Lightspeed is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mert, Garrett and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Welcome back to another episode of the Crypto Catch Up, a weekly podcast where we chat and make sense of the biggest and wildest crypto news from the last 7 days (and the occasional cricket reference). Join the boys on today's episode as Ted Coaldrake (Content & SEO Lead at Swyftx) and Pav Hundal (Lead Market Analyst at Swyftx) sit down to ask the big question: Where is the crypto market headed? Join the conversation as they dissect Jerome Powell's 60-minute interview, unravel the buzz around the latest airdrops, and share their strategies for navigating a potential 30% market drop. Bargain hunting anyone? You'll hear:  00:26 - Thoughts on the stalemate in the market 03:40 - Seasonality in Crypto 05.06 - The likelihood of a ‘soft landing' in the economy and what this means for crypto 08.12 - Top Movers (LINK, FLR, PYTH) 11:55 - What's happening with Tether? 14:00 - What is Plan B's prediction for Bitcoin this year 16:35 - Pav's Hot Take: What would you do if Bitcoin dropped 30%? … and much more! Catch the stats the boys are looking at on their computers by watching the YouTube version of the podcast here. Ready to start? Get $10 of FREE Bitcoin on Swyftx when you sign up and verify.  To get the latest updates, hit subscribe and follow us over on the gram @tappingintocrypto If you can't wait to learn more, check out these blogs from our friends over at Swyftx. The Tapping into Crypto podcast is for entertainment purposes only and the opinions on this podcast belong to individuals and are not affiliated with any companies mentioned. Any advice is general in nature and does not take into account your personal situation, if you're looking to get advice, please seek out a licensed financial advisor.

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Cette vidéo est une collaboration commerciale avec Pyth Network. Partons à la découverte d'un des domaines les plus connus et pourtant les moins compris de notre écosystème : les oracles décentralisés. Comment fonctionnent-ils, pourquoi sont-ils indispensables, comment se financent-ils… On répond à toutes ces questions avec Marc Tillement de Pyth Network.

Jayant Krishnamurthy is the Co-founder and CTO of Douro Labs (Pyth) Jayant's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jayantkrish Pyth's Twitter: https://twitter.com/PythNetwork Pyth's Website: https://pyth.network/ Logan Jastremski's Twitter: @LoganJastremski Frictionless's Twitter: @_Frictionless_ Frictionless's Website: ⁠https://frictionless.fund/⁠ ___

Solana has seen a massive rise since the beginning of 2023 and continues to be one of the top performers. We break down some ecosystem tokens that might have some 10x potential.~This episode is sponsored by iTrust Capital~iTrustCapital | Get $100 Funding Reward + No Monthly Fees when you sign up using our custom link! ➜ https://bit.ly/iTrustPaul00:00 Intro00:26 Sponsor Ad iTrust01:00 Solana Ecosystem website02:10 Jupiter02:52 Pyth03:21 Dialect03:44 Hivemapper04:35 Monthly active devs05:39 Top Price Gainers06:21 Ecosystem weekly highlights07:00 Best Performing Solana Projects Report07:11 Layer 1 Overall Sentiment07:34 Solana Trending Projects10:00 Market Sentiment Index10:34 Solana & Ecosystem chart update12:40 Outro#Crypto #Solana~ Solana Ecosystem 10x Tokens to Watch ~⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺Visit www.paulbarronnetwork.com for more podcasts like this.Follow on X: paulbarrontv and paulbarron for more insights.Become a Diamond Circle Member FREE! ➜ https://bit.ly/PBDiamondCircleSubscribe on YouTube ✅ https://bit.ly/PBNYoutubeSubscribeFacebook

Auteur d'un traité géographique intitulé De l'Océan, Pythéas de Marseille a vécu au IVe siècle avant notre ère. De son texte ne subsistent aujourd'hui que quelques fragments. À partir de ces rares éléments, les historiens ont tenté de reconstituer ce qui ressemble bien à une expédition maritime au nord-ouest de l'Europe jusqu'à une région boréale énigmatique. Intégrant les résultats des travaux les plus récents sur le sujet, François Herbaux présente pour la première fois une synthèse du « dossier Pythéas » et apporte ainsi un éclairage actualisé et approfondi sur cet explorateur méconnu et sur sa postérité, historique et légendaire.

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Jito's successful JTO token launch is lifting many ships in the Solana (SOL) ecosystem. Meanwhile, Robinhood's launch in the UK propelled 25 tokens previously delisted in the U.S.00:00 Intro00:27 Sponsor: Tangem Wallet01:39 Robinhood relisted tokens02:35 JITO airdrop02:56 JITO trading volume03:18 Solana DefiLlama03:42 JitoSOL Staking / Kamino04:06 What is Kamino Finance?04:42 Don't do this!05:34 DeFi dashboard06:29 Magic Eden/ Mad Lads07:35 $BONK Solana Mobile Reward08:36 Amazon removes PayPal09:52 Cathie Wood sees the future10:20 VanEck Report / ETH L2s11:01 NFT Explosion11:28 Decentralized exchanges12:20 IMX top 25 coin?12:55 SOL Top 3 token13:19 PYTH flips LINK14:05 Hivemapper & Helium14:34 Coinbase14:43 Render All-Time High15:36 Outro~This episode is sponsored by Tangem~Tangem ➜ https://bit.ly/TangemPBNUse Code: "PBN" for Additional Discounts!#Solana #Crypto #NFT~Solana Skyrockets Past $70!

Crypto investment platform Republic will list its profit-sharing digital asset, the Republic Note, on the Avalanche Blockchain via the US-regulated trading platform INX. The Note listing will be available to KYC'ed non-accredited and accredited investors worldwide on Dec. 6.~This episode is sponsored by iTrust Capital~iTrustCapital | Get $100 Funding Reward + No Monthly Fees when you sign up using our custom link! ➜ https://bit.ly/iTrustPaul00:00 intro00:23 Sponsor: iTrust Capital00:57 Republic x Avalanche01:24 John Wu on Republic02:19 December 6th02:54 Algorand Rugpulled03:15 Dividends & Non-Accredited04:47 INX Token on Ethereum05:41 Security Tokens06:05 Prometheum still a scam07:08 Tokens To Watch07:49 Republic Subnet Coming08:20 JP Morgan on Avalanche08:33 Bitcoiners Still Attack Altcoins10:13 Grayscale Web3 Growth12:03 Polygon Tokenized Products Coming12:55 outro#Crypto #Ethereum #Bitcoin~SEC Approved Tokens Launching on Avalanche December 6th

On this episode, we're taking a look at crypto investment opportunities with Jordi.Guest: Jordi Alexander - CIO Selini CapitalFollow Jordi on Twitter ➜ @gametheorizing 00:00 Intro00:42 Mantle03:41 Fed Soft Landing?05:31 Bitcoin Halving impact08:08 $50K Bitcoin pre-ETF?08:49 ETF in January? Crypto vs Stocks10:27 Top projects to watch13:08 Solana Ecosystem Tokens14:55 $PYTH vs $LINK17:01 $ETH vs $SOL20:00 $SOL vs $AVAX21:59 2024 crypto strategy23:33 OutroCrypto #Bitcoin #ethereum~2024 Crypto Outlook w/ Jordi Alexander~⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺⎺Become a Diamond Circle Member FREE! ➜ https://bit.ly/PBDiamondCircleSubscribe on YouTube ✅ https://bit.ly/PBNYoutubeSubscribeFacebook

What's up everyone this is Thomas Bahamas and you are here for another episode of Solana weekly. Solana - $60, that's right we're pumping. Topped out just under $70 and what did I call? 69 by 2024. It's on the table. SolEth - crushing - .0296. Is .1 feasible?Solbtc - crushing - .0158Now we gotta talk about the market crushing. I've been doing this podcast for a year and we've been buying coins and pictures that have been mostly going down lol. What do we do here? We follow the trade and don't get out too soon. High conviction trades working out? Push the trade. Airdrops!Pyth. Crushed.We've got Jupiter's airdrop coming too and I think this is going to be massive. Jto - details released today, that's right Jito dropping us coins baby.Airdrop checker - there's an amazing tool out there to see if any of your wallets qualify, no only do they have additional airdrops I wasn't aware of, but it look like they are adding new ones as they come up.https://solana-airdrop-checker.solworks.devThese drops are basically throwing gas on a fire, injecting liquidity into an already booming ecosystem. I'm so bullish.The ducks. The quekz. We've been talking about these for a year, and they've launched. Stay strong, follow your convictions, don't panic and make sure that you're doing what you can to make the best decisions with where we are at. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thomasbahamas.substack.com

In this week's analyst table Dan and Sam are joined by Blockworks research analysts Ren and Brick to dive into this week's biggest news. Dan covers Avalanche's recent surge in transactions stemming from ASC20 minting spam. Key governance updates include MakerDAO's current peg stability module and Aave and Curve's USD integration. Discussion then moves the dYdX market manipulation event that damaged the protocols insurance fund and subsequent debate between Kain and Antonio. To close out the team covers crypto gaming projects and the Pyth airdrop. Enjoy! As always remember this podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. - - Follow Sam: https://twitter.com/swmartin19 Follow Dan: https://twitter.com/smyyguy Follow Ren: https://twitter.com/purplepill3m Follow Brick: https://twitter.com/0x___Brick Follow Blockworks Research: https://twitter.com/blockworksres Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3foDS38 Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3SNhUEt Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3NlP1hA Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Crypto's premier institutional conference returns to London in March 2024 and we've got a killer deal for Black Friday...or as we call it BlackRock Friday. For a limited time we're running a 20% promo on our 4 pack of DAS tickets. For just 399 GBP per ticket you can share the room with the world's top executives and hear from some of the largest institutions in crypto.  Grab 3 friends or 3 colleagues and use code BLACKROCK for 20% off on 4 pack tickets. Only valid until Nov 27th. Use code "BLACKROCK0X" at: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2024-london/home - - Timestamps (0:00) Introduction (3:27) Avalanche TX Volume & CZ $4B Fine (12:01) Sam Altman Removed from OpenAI (14:38) Aave & crvUSD Integration (20:55) Orca Prop for Directing Fees to Token Holders (25:08) DAS London Ad (26:03) dYdX Manipulation (39:17) MakerDAO Peg Stability Module (48:46) Vertex LBA & Yield Payout (55:47) Gaming: Duel Arena, Friend Pet, Illivium, Project Awakening & Lattice L2 (1:08:38) Pyth Airdrop Takes - - Resources Eve Online Economy Interview https://youtu.be/hDCAGgpAPbk?feature=shared Pyth Airdrop Report https://app.blockworksresearch.com/research/pyth-network-pull-not-push - - Check out Blockworks Research today! Research, data, governance, tokenomics, and models – now, all in one place Blockworks Research: https://www.blockworksresearch.com/ Free Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter - - Disclaimer: Nothing said on 0xResearch is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Dan, Sam, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Pricing oracle network Pyth's token debuted at a market cap of $468 million on Monday after issuing an airdrop for 90,000 wallets. The Pyth Network currently has $1.5 billion in total value secured (TVS) across 120 protocols, making it the fourth-largest pricing oracle. Competitor Chainlink (LINK), in comparison, has $14.7 billion in TVS. Solana users could be in for another treat following the Airdrop: Nearly one million SOL wallets are eligible for four billion tokens from decentralized finance aggregator Jupiter.~This episode is sponsored by Tangem~Tangem ➜ https://bit.ly/TangemPBNUse Code: "PBN" for Additional Discounts!00:00 intro00:17 Sponsor: Tangem Wallet01:10 Pyth Network02:08 Chainlink Competitor02:49 Pyth vs Chainlink03:40 Cross-Chain Growth04:35 Airdrop for Users05:53 $PYTH Airdrop Launch06:34 Tokenomics07:57 $PYTH Trading Opens08:41 Jupiter Exchange10:00 USDC Interoperability10:19 Limit Orders & DCS Features10:59 Jupiter Flipping Uniswap?11:19 $JUP Airdrop12:52 Airdrop Season Begins13:53 outro#SOL #Solana #Crypto~Major Solana Airdrops Incoming!

Blast introduces its native yield L2. Kraken refutes a complaint from the SEC. The PYTH airdrop goes live. And Conduit supports nodes on Zora Mainnet. Get up to 40% off Trezor hardware wallets and accessories: ethdaily.io/trezor (affiliate link)

We sit down with Mike Cahill, CEO of Douro labs, to talk Pyth's retroactive airdrop and launch. In this episode: A brief history of Pyth What was the problem with legacy oracles before Pyth How is Pyth is technically differentiated from other oracles The importance of introducing confidence intervals into prices How does Pyth achieves cross chain data delivery Disintermediation in the oracle market Major proof points that convinced Mike that Pyth could work Pyth's traction on various chains Which blockchains Pyth does particularly well on Mike addresses the ‘collusion FUD'? Why Pyth oracles are not like LIBOR How the Pyth retrospective airdrop works What's happening with Pyth governance on a go forward basis? Further reading:  Pyth, How the Retrospective Airdrop works On The Brink ep. 364, Solving The Oracle Problem

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Douro Labs is building oracle tooling, products, and Web3 infrastructure that will expand the Pyth Network's suite of decentralized data services and enhance access to real-time, once-exclusive market data for all blockchain participants.Join the Pyth mission in unlocking financial data for developers to create fairer, more transparent marketshttps://dourolabs.xyz/

Kelp DAO introduces rsETH liquid restaking. Pyth Network announces its PYTH token airdrop. EigenLayer begins its LST race. And Rarible introduces marketplace-as-a-service.

We're so back.What's up everybody, this is Thomas Bahamas and you are here for another episode of Solana Weekly. Where it's my job to find the biggest stories of the week and try to figure out the implications of what we're seeing. We are seeing so much up only and I am having a great time. I would like to say that this episode is brought to you buy the massive pump of Bonk and the absolute chad holders at Quekz. Both are the quality assets we need and are the best examples of great projects on Solana. Sol price - 41.34 up mega, we are up 73% over the last month. Leading into breakpoint with news and releases dropping, combined with token drops and this thing is rocketing. SolEth - .023, up mega Solbtc - .0012 up! We passed previous resistance at .001 i was watching closely and boy we are not stopping. Well the theme of this episode has to address the overall upness of the market and just how pumped I am about it. Huge pumps everywhere, with Sol outperforming everything on the way up, holding higher levels, and the cherry on the top is Bonk pumping over 2x as well.It's not ending. Yes there might be local tops and some pullbacks, but I think we are starting to the beginning of the bull run. The timing couldn't be better, it's token season on Solana combined with Breakpoint coming up and tons of really good protocols humming along. The protocols that I'm most excited about all have tokens coming as well.Jupiter, drift, jito, kamino, meteora, margin, magic Eden, goose, isc have all had pretty serious rumors about dropping tokens and I'm here for it. I think Sol holders and all of us that have been here for years should be rewarded. We are the community and bring  value to these protocols. Spreading that would be the most crypto thing. This is how Ethereum has always won, they get their users rich and they never leave. I am here for it. Of course with all these great game changing protocols having really thought out drops, there are the memecoins with no thought as well. I'm seeing jeet, wen, and a whole slosh of other coins flood the market and why not. It's fun, some of them do okay. But I think the trash tokens are actually highlighting the insane difference between a token and all that Bonk has done. Bonk is built different and with a great drop to the community and integrations with almost all protocols it is the heart of solana. It was there for us on our darkest days after ftx rugged. It dropped on Christmas and Solana was like $8 and sentiment was trash. It was going to 0. I was sitting at my in laws and laughing at bonk and branche dropped that bonk was launching in degen mints and I aped some because I thought it was funny. I bought more because it was fun. Burning your bonk was hilarious. This was the start but they have continued to build this whole year. Great marketing, fun, and tons of use cases are all on the back of this rally and it feels good. If you're in nfts, pivot to defi. NFTs are doomed. Everything is down mega. I'm not sure when it stops. But I can say what has worked in the past is holding quality nfts that will do well. Maybe adding a couple more that are super bleeding. The only project excelling during these dark times are the Quekz! That's right, our ducks are the best ducks. I got some sick merch, the holders are absolute chads and it's going to 10 sol and wouldn't be surprised to find it at 100 sol. No one sells. It's funnier if you don't. As far as other quality NFTs, I'd urge caution, but famous foxes look free, they have a ton of revenue and run time and aren't going anywhere, smb gen 3 are free, Monkedao isn't going anywhere either. Empire pod and 1000x is maybe the best pod to think about the crypto markets. One of the hosts Jonah trash talked Solana and got roasted. Then they had Toly on and hes pretty onboard with Solana. How to play the pump: keep an eye on SolBtc. I have the urge to take a little profits on the way up. But the left curve is to just stake and hold. i have most of my sol staked and will hold. But i will keep an eye on the price of solana vs Bitcoin. When it tops I will likely look at swapping over. Because when Bitcoin runs it runs. Updated from breakpoint:Armani and Tristan and the lads are releasing an exchange! A centralized exchange for the people. Super pumped, and they also released a mobile app. Next breakpoint is in Singapore. Fire dancer is officially on testnet and hitting 1 million tps! Eth teases solana speeds, while solana tests unheard of speeds. Pyth airdrop is live. Squads is releasing a wallet called fuse wallet that's a multisig and super user friendly.AWS releases node runner.anyways sorry for the late episode, everything was pumping and I couldn't even keep up with the news. It's Halloween, get those pumpkins carved and enjoy some gains. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thomasbahamas.substack.com

Today on the Ether we have Levana hosting a discussion on Noble USDC and Pyth being game changers for Osmosis and Levana. You'll hear from sunnya97.osmo, Jelena, Marc, and more! Recorded on October 18th 2023. Make sure to check out the newest tracks from Finn and the RAC FM gang over at ImaginetheSmell.org! The majority of the music at the end of these spaces can be found streaming over on Spotify, and the rest of the streaming platforms. Check out Project Survival, Virus Diaries, and Plan B wherever you get your music. Thank you to everyone in the community who supports TerraSpaces.

Michael Cahill is the CEO of Douro Labs, where he oversees the development and acceleration of the Pyth Network — an oracle network for real-time financial market data delivery to smart contract applications. In this episode, Cahill unpacks the unique advantages of Pyth Network over other oracle providers and explains what obstacles currently stand in the way of replicating the centralized trading experience on-chain. According to Cahill, DeFi is "very close to feature parity with some of the backend elements of derivatives trading on centralized exchanges — what we haven't yet cracked is the user experience." Pyth Network was incubated by Jump Trading before going live on Solana mainnet back in August of 2021.

Oracles are an essential part of how real-world data gets integrated into DeFi smart contracts, but historically, that process has been fraught with challenges. In this episode, Jayant Krishnamurthy (Duoro Labs) explains how Pyth is addressing these challenges and redefining how a blockchain oracle can work. Originally built on Solana's L1, Pyth is a low-latency, high-frequency oracle that has expanded beyond the Solana ecosystem and now provides data feeds for over 30 blockchains. The way it does this is through Pythnet – the first network to deploy the Solana codebase for an application specific blockchain.  DISCLAIMER The content herein is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, and does not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to buy any securities, options, futures, or other derivatives related to securities in any jurisdiction, nor should not be relied upon as advice to buy, sell or hold any of the foregoing. This content is intended to be general in nature and is not specific to you, the user or anyone else. You should not make any decision, financial, investment, trading or otherwise, based on any of the information presented without undertaking independent due diligence and consultation with a professional advisor. Solana Foundation Foundation and its agents, advisors, council members, officers and employees (the “Foundation Parties”) make no representation or warranties, expressed or implied, as to the accuracy of the information herein and expressly disclaims any and all liability that may be based on such information or any errors or omissions therein. The Foundation Parties shall have no liability whatsoever, under contract, tort, trust or otherwise, to any person arising from or related to the content or any use of the information contained herein by you or any of your representatives. All opinions expressed herein are the speakers' own personal opinions and do not reflect the opinions of any entities.

Oracles are all about bringing important data (mostly asset prices) onto the blockchain. As such, they're a key part of decentralized finance. But oracle provider Pyth sees room for improvement as it relates to being more real-time than crypto incumbents like Chainlink. Mike Cahill, the CEO of a brand new Pyth-linked firm called Douro Labs, joins the show to explain the opportunity he sees in building better oracles. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Pyth Network works and what the upcoming Perseus upgrade consists of Mike's background in traditional finance why oracles are necessary in crypto and what the challenges are for oracle providers whether it's hard for traditional institutions to participate in crypto protocols what the four types of oracle solutions are and how they differ how Pyth determines which data providers are allowed in the network and how that will change if it becomes more decentralized why Mike compares the scalability of Pyth to how Facebook grew why Douro Labs is being launched and why it will be solely focused on Pyth for now the factors driving Pyth's growth, according to Mike Mike's opinion on the current state of the crypto market and what the endgame is for Pyth Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guest: Mike Cahill, CEO at Douro Labs. Links What's the Difference Between Pyth and Legacy Oracles Unchained:  What Are Blockchain Oracles? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Oracles are all about bringing important data (mostly asset prices) onto the blockchain. As such, they're a key part of decentralized finance. But oracle provider Pyth sees room for improvement as it relates to being more real-time than crypto incumbents like Chainlink. Mike Cahill, the CEO of a brand new Pyth-linked firm called Douro Labs, joins the show to explain the opportunity he sees in building better oracles. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Pyth Network works and what the upcoming Perseus upgrade consists of Mike's background in traditional finance why oracles are necessary in crypto and what the challenges are for oracle providers whether it's hard for traditional institutions to participate in crypto protocols what the four types of oracle solutions are and how they differ how Pyth determines which data providers are allowed in the network and how that will change if it becomes more decentralized why Mike compares the scalability of Pyth to how Facebook grew why Douro Labs is being launched and why it will be solely focused on Pyth for now the factors driving Pyth's growth, according to Mike Mike's opinion on the current state of the crypto market and what the endgame is for Pyth Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation TOKEN2049 Guest: Mike Cahill, CEO at Douro Labs. Links What's the Difference Between Pyth and Legacy Oracles Unchained:  What Are Blockchain Oracles? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Cahill is the Director at Pyth Data Association Michael's Twitter: @mdomcahill Pyth's Twitter: @PythNetwork Pyth's Website: https://pyth.network/ Logan Jastremski's Twitter: @LoganJastremski Frictionless's Twitter: @_Frictionless_ Frictionless's Website: https://frictionless.fund/ Try out NEW Orca: https://bit.ly/neworca_logan ___ This Podcast was sponsored by Squads (https://squads.so) & Orca (https://www.orca.so/). Squads Protocol: the multisig standard you were looking for on Solana Securely manage your treasury, program upgrades and tokens with your Squad. - Multi-signature - A multisig requires multiple digital signatures in order to approve transactions. This is opposed to individual web3 wallets, which only require one signature. - Security - Multisigs spread the attack vector necessary for your assets to be compromised. By requiring confirmations from multiple private keys, a single point of failure is eliminated. - Collective Ownership - Multisigs allow teams to own and manage their on-chain assets together. You get to choose who is on your multisig. - Self-Custody - Your on-chain assets are always in your team's control. By securing them in a multisig, you forego the risk of centralized entities losing your funds. ___ Orca is a Concentrated Liquidity Automated Market Maker (CLAMM, for short). - Orca is the easiest place to trade crypto and build applications on Solana. - On Orca, you can trade tokens lightning fast and confidently (thanks to our Fair Price Indicator). Additionally, you can provide liquidity to our concentrated liquidity pools (Whirlpools) to earn trading fees and token emissions.

Today on the Ether we have Injective hosting a discussion on cross-chain data with Pyth. You'll hear from Cooper, Eric Chen, Marc, Ray Song, and more! Recorded on May 9th 2023. If you enjoy the music at the end of the episodes, you can find the albums streaming on Spotify, and the rest of your favorite streaming platforms. Check out Project Survival, Virus Diaries, and Plan B wherever you get your music. Thank you to everyone in the community who supports TerraSpaces.

Welcome to Chain Reaction. A show that unpacks and dives deep into the latest trends, drama and news with some of the biggest names in crypto breaking things down block by block for the crypto curious. For this week's episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Jesse Pollak, the lead for Base and head of protocols at Coinbase. Base is an Ethereum-focused layer 2 blockchain launched by Coinbase in February of this year. Pollak previously led all retail engineering at Coinbase, including building Coinbase, Coinbase Pro, and Coinbase Wallet. In a past life, Pollak started Clef, a 2FA mobile app and was an engineer at BuzzFeed. A number of crypto businesses, platforms, marketplaces and infrastructure firms have committed to building on Base. Those that plan to be involved include Blockdaemon, Chainlink, Etherscan, Quicknode, Aave, Animoca Brands, Dune, Nansen, Magic Eden, Pyth, Rainbow Wallet, Ribbon Finance, The Graph, Wormhole and Gelato, to name a handful.Of course, we talked a lot about Base and where it's headed in the future, as well as how regulation could affect the blockchain and the timeline for its Mainnet launch; Pollak shared it's aiming for 2023.We also dove into: Decentralizing BaseBlockchain inspirationCoinbase's role in BaseAdvice for developersChain Reaction comes out every other Thursday at 12:00 p.m. PT, so be sure to subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your favorite pod platform to keep up with the action.The TechCrunch Podcast Network has been nominated for two Webbys in the Best Technology Podcast category. You can help TechCrunch win by voting for Chain Reaction, which digs into the wild world of crypto. Or Found which brings you the stories behind the startups by sitting down with the founders themselves. Please take a few moments to vote here. Voting closes April 20. (Obviously, I host Chain Reaction, so vote for my show!)Mentioned in the show: https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/23/coinbase-launches-blockchain-base-to-help-developers-build-dapps-on-chain/

Steve Kaminsky of Jump Crypto joins Ronan and JR on this episode of Boxes + Lines to break down The Pyth Network, an oracle that acts as a bridge between on-chain and off-chain applications to provide crypto values and other market data. The group discusses the value of using Pyth and the benefits that come along with contributing data to the network. We also hear about the latest crypto trends to keep an eye on. Recorded January 19, 2023. 

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Steve Kaminsky (Strategic Initiatives and Special Projects at Jump Crypto) joins The Tie's Fundamental Value podcast to discuss Jump's crypto initiatives, contributions towards Pyth, and the importance of blockchain oracles.The information contained in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not investment advice. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of The TIE, Inc. You are fully responsible for any decisions you make; The TIE Inc. is not liable for any loss or damage caused by reliance on information provided. For investment advice, consult with a registered investment advisor. Steve Kaminsky LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-kaminsky-a8197291/Jump Crypto Website: https://jumpcrypto.com/Jump Crypto Twitter: @jump_Pyth Website: https://pyth.network/Joshua Frank Twitter: @Joshua_Frank_Joshua Frank LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-frank-56950950/The Tie Twitter: @TheTIEIOThe Tie Website: https://www.thetie.io/The Tie is the leading provider of information services for digital assets. Our core offering, The Tie Terminal, is the fastest and most comprehensive workstation for institutional digital asset investors. https://www.thetie.io/crypto-sigdev-terminal/ 

Mike Cahill, Director of the Pyth Data Association joins the show. In this episode we discuss: The origin of Pyth and how the project is addressing the ‘Oracle Problem'. How Pyth works and how companies and protocols are using the product today. Mike's views on how equities on chain will evolve, and how Pyth is positioned in this market. The recent Mango Markets exploit and the future of on-chain market manipulations in DeFi. Pyth's network of partners and how the network is growing in 2022. To learn more about Pyth visit Pyth.Network.    

节目概要：Pyth 网络的目标与愿景Pyth这个名字的来源市场上已有的预言机解决方案的问题与Pyth 的解决方案不同之处在Pyth网络里的关键参与方：数据提供者与数据使用者Pyth 网络为了稳定提供数据做出的备案未来潜在的客户与用例PYTH 通证的使用场景未来计划与路线图 推特:  @PythNetwork / @sing_me_a网站: https://linktr.ee/pythnetwork 重要声明：Mable Jiang或嘉宾在播客中的观点仅代表他们的个人看法。此播客仅用于提供信息，不作为投资参考。Mable Jiang有时可能会在此节目中讨论的某项目中持有头寸。 Twitter:  @PythNetwork / @sing_me_aWebsite: https://linktr.ee/pythnetwork Important Disclaimers: All opinions expressed by Mable Jiang, or other podcast guests, are solely their opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as investment advice. Mable Jiang may hold positions in some of the projects discussed on this show. 相关文档 / Relevant Links:https://docs.pyth.network/

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Mike Cahill is the Director of the Pyth Data Association, the Swiss association behind the Pyth network, a decentralized oracle solution that brings financial data across asset classes on-chain – directly from the source. Based in Porto, Mike is also the head of European business development for digital assets at Jump Crypto, a market data provider of Pyth. Cahill details his journey to crypto and the role the Pyth Network plays in facilitating on-chain financial data sharing. He explains the decision to pick Solana as their layer-1 blockchain, the state of participation on Pyth and what growth looks like amid the current crypto environment.0:00 – Intro & background5:14 – Pyth Network12:38 – Building on Solana18:47 – Pyth data participation26:06 – Growing Pyth & market conditions

Marseille ou Massalia la cité phocéenne est l'une des plus anciennes villes d'Europe occidentale. Son histoire commence vers 600 av. J.-C. à l'initiative des navigateurs grecs originaire de la lointaine Phocée en Asie Mineure. Les Phocéens furent de grands explorateurs et furent les édificateurs de nombreux comptoirs commerciaux en Méditerranée occidentale, notamment Massalia, mais également Antibes, Avignon, Aléria en Corse et bien d'autres. Lorsque la cité de Phocée sera détruite par les Perses, les habitants trouveront refuge dans leurs terres occidentales et Massalia, telle une arche, devient le nouveau pôle de la civilisation phocéenne. Les Massaliotes devront se tailler une place face aux autres thalassocraties, comme Carthage, les cités étrusques, ou Tartessos et jusqu'a l'acception de Rome. Les Phocéens, puis les Massaliotes donneront naissance à de grands explorateurs comme Pythéas de Marseille et Euthymènes, mais ils seront aussi les pourvoyeurs de la culture hellénistique dans les gaules, comme en atteste la légende des noces de Gyptis et Protis. Aujourd'hui, nous allons remonter le temps grâce à l'aide d'Hérodote, de Trogue Pompée, de Strabon et quelques autres, à la découverte de l'histoire des Phocéens et de la cité de Marseille. Lien de la vidéo : https://youtu.be/h-PqDRSz0Zw  ▶ Soutenir la web TV sur Tipeee : https://fr.tipeee.com/arcana-mysteres-du-monde

Ben Chow (Jupiter Exchange Co-Founder) joins The Zeitgeist to discuss Jupiter's role in the Solana ecosystem powering swap infrastructure.Show Notes0:44 - Intro / Background05:04 - How does Jupiter work?08:44 - Jupiter integration in Phantom13:26 - Keeping up with the new liquidity innovations15:47 - What's the process of Jupiter Integration21:18 - Who is using Jupiter?24:44 - The Growing Solana Ecosystem26:04 - What is the vision for Jupiter?28:44 - Favorite Builders in the space32:28 - Contact infoReferencesSaberOrcaRaydiumFriktionTranscriptBrian (00:06):Hey everyone, and welcome to the Zeitgeist, the show where we highlight founders, developers and designers who are pushing the Web3 space forward. I'm Brian Friel, developer relations at Phantom, and I'm super excited to introduce Ben Chow. Ben is the co-founder of Jupiter, the largest decentralized exchange aggregator on Solana, powering tens of millions of dollars in swaps every day. Ben, welcome to the show.Ben (00:30):Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to be here.Brian (00:33):Thanks for coming on. And so we have a lot to cover today, including an exciting announcement between Phantom and Jupiter. But before that, could you give us a brief overview of who you are and how you came to be involved with Jupiter?Ben (00:44):Sure, yeah. So hi everyone, my name is Ben. I'm one of the co-founders of Jupiter. I became involved in Jupiter actually through a few good friends of mine, Megan and Shawn. Probably unlike many people, I am relatively new to crypto, although at this point in time, I feel like an ancient person. The world moves. I think I've gone through a couple of cycles and a few different crypto projects, so it's been an amazing roller coaster ride of sorts.Ben (01:13):But as for my background, I'm a ex-IDEO product designer and longtime serial entrepreneur and startup founder. I've worked in a number of fields to be honest. Probably the most successful ones was that I was actually an early social gaming pioneer. I helped build a social gaming startup that was True Venture backed and later got acquired by Disney played him in a roll up.Ben (01:37):More recently, before Jupiter I was the co-founder CEO of a top 100 social app on the iOS store, and I also happen to have several patents and a lot of work in the medical product space. Probably the coolest one was I did an augmented reality surgical navigation system for cataract surgeons that we took to market, which was very cool.Ben (02:03):I would say the core team on Jupiter is pretty experienced. Megan and Shawn are probably the OG DeFi folks. They were a founding team or strategic advisor to InstadApp, RAPBTC, Kyber, Blockfolio, and a number of others. And I feel grateful and fortunate that they looped me in when they were thinking about building on Solana. So we're a pretty veteran team. We've all done a number of companies, a number of products. I feel very thankful that Solana is both an incredible ecosystem to build on, and this is an incredible time to be a builder. There's just so much value you can give because we're all super early, but also everyone is really smart, very talented, really great to work with. So it's just been an amazing time.Brian (02:53):So you have this wealth of startup experience across a ton of different domains. Was Solana your first blockchain ecosystem that you really sunk your teeth into and got involved with?Ben (03:03):Yes. Solana actually is my first. I don't have the stories that people have about Ethereum or Binance, and I don't have as much background in those. I really only know Solana very well. At the same time, I've also had to come up to speed on DeFi and crypto in general. So I have this really interesting depth of knowledge in a certain area, but not as much broad experience. Like when people talk about 2017 and the crypto winter, I didn't have those kind of experiences. I can talk shop now a little bit more around aggregation indexes, concentrated liquidity, derivatives, perpetuals, all sorts of stuff. I think one of the things that attracts me to crypto is that for any of the things I've always done, I just love to deep dive into a problem domain and learn as much as I can. And crypto is like this endless deep well of things you can learn.Brian (04:02):Yeah, the rabbit hole.Ben (04:04):Yeah. Literally, probably the deepest rabbit hole I've ever been in. And I've been in several. Doing surgical navigation systems are like this combination of understanding the business model, the user experience, the biomedical, the biophysical, every single layer of it is needed to really do something very interesting and cool. And the same can be said even more so with crypto.Brian (04:33):No, I agree a hundred percent. It's an endless learning experience. And so you mentioned your background. Back in the day you were at IDEO as a product designer. Most people, I would say, know Jupiter today because of the website you guys host at jup.ag. You guys have a really slick few clicks and you're swapping the best rate between different tokens on Solana. But you guys also offer a couple other ways to interface with Jupiter. Can you speak a little bit to how Jupiter works under the hood and how both users and developers can interact with what you guys have built?Ben (05:04):So we have an SDK and a API, and our vision for how we see Jupiter and how it relates to the rest of the ecosystem is that we want to be the swap infrastructure for all of Solana. And the single place that any project developer or user can easily access all of the liquidity and discover the best price trades for any token that they want to trade on in Solana. What that means is that if you're a developer... And I would say one reason why we've gotten a huge traction on developers building on top of Jupiter is that we make it really easy to do not only trades, but arbitrage trading. So if you're using our API, it's actually one of the easiest things you can do because it's language platform agnostic. It's literally one REST API call to get the best price routes, and then another API call to also get the transaction objects you need to send to actually do the swap.Ben (06:12):On the SDK side, it's a little bit more involved, but it's about three or four steps. You just have to load up the library and then put in your trade that you want and compute the routes. Right now, computing all the routes is done off chain and offline, and the reason for that is that we integrate currently 15 DEXs on Solana. And what that means is, basically we connect and route every single market there is on Solana. So you can think of all of Solana's liquidity as one big virtual DEX, and we have to create the routes for all that. That means that there's tons of routes, thousands and thousands of routes. And calculating the best price between all of them is actually computationally expensive and something that is very very hard to do on-chain. And so that is done in our SDK off-chain, and our API also leverages our SDK. So whenever we make improvements to our SDK, our API automatically gets them.Ben (07:13):There's a lot of work that happens on a daily basis. One, to optimize the routing algorithm, to make it more performant. Because as you can imagine, anytime you increase the number of tokens, and there are thousands of tokens on Solana, anytime there's new liquidity sources for those tokens, the complexity grows exponentially. So the number of permutations and combinations of routes grows ever greater, and calculating them in a way that's very fast for users. In some ways, a lot of market opportunities and best price routes don't live very long, right? So the route itself could be best price for only a block or a couple blocks before someone else snatches it. You want to be able to calculate these things very, very quickly. And so we do a lot of work optimizing the computation for it, and then also there's a lot of infrastructure work for anyone using the API to be able to make sure that it scales and is performant for all the people who are using the API.Brian (08:21):So I'd love to dig in more of the details, but before we do, we do have an exciting announcement to bring up today. And that is at the time that this show is being recorded, Phantom is set to release its brand new in-app swapper that's powered by Jupiter. We're super excited about this because it opens up a huge wide range of new markets and gives our users the best possible price across all pairs they're interested in trading. Can you guys speak a little bit to this integration and what this means for DeFi on Solana?Ben (08:48):So basically I think along with our mission, what it means to be a swap infrastructure, is that there's actually just a lot of work to make all this liquidity and any token available for anyone. What we want to do is make it easy for any project or any wallet to access this liquidity as simply and as seamlessly and as easy as possible. And that is so you can support the rich number of use cases there are for swaps, which could be streaming payments, being able to, if you're streaming a token that the recipient can receive the token in the token of their choice at the best rate possible. This is like purchasing NFTs, being able to purchase NFTs with any token, not just SOL or whatever the collections token is.Ben (09:35):If you don't have those things to be able to do that easily, simply in one click to power payments... So Solana payments, we work with MtnPay to help facilitate that. So you can purchase anything with any token that you have, not just USDC, but the person the recipient can receive in the token that they want, whether it's USDC or SOL or whatever, but someone can pay with the token that they want. So facilitating these interactions, that means that the simple thing that most developers do is they connect with one DEX, right? But that DEX may not have the best rates. That DEX may not have all the tokens.Ben (10:15):So a lot of tokens don't launch on every DEX. They launch on, it could be a Serum market or, or maybe a Raydium permissionless pool. And so being able to look at where the liquidity is, where the rates are, and make sure that people can easily access that with one API call or using our SDK is really important. And again, as Solana grows, as the number of tokens grow, as the number of projects come along, as a new markets come online, this stuff gets harder and harder, and more so because the latest DEXs that are coming online are actually much more complicated than the constant product AMMs that Solana first launched with.Ben (11:00):So we're seeing concentrated liquidity market makers, we're seeing proactive market makers, which are using Pyth or other price oracles to enable their market making. These things are very complicated to deal with and to integrate on top of them, but the reason to use them is that they offer amazing prices. So LIFINITY is one of the DEXs that we integrate with, along with Crema and Orca whirlpools, and their ability to give you competitive great prices for some of the popular token swaps is amazing.Ben (11:38):Because they have a lot more dependencies and they're a little bit more complicated, there are issues and there are corner cases to deal with. For example, because LIFINITY relies on a price oracle, in times of congestion that oracle could get behind and not be updated, and thus their ability to market make is hampered. Along with that, since everything is really early, we're usually the first people to work with anyone's SDK. It's usually in the early stages, and so doing things like having a really nice way to handle these errors and surface them to users where it makes sense to them, like, "Why is this something happening?" is an important job, and we're generally becoming sort of the interface between integrators and DEXs in terms of helping people like troubleshoot where bugs are in order to provide the best user experience for the end user.Brian (12:38):No, I think that user experience is everything at the end of the day, and that's why we're super excited about this integration. I remember a time on Solana when it was so simple, I could just open up maybe Saber, Orca, Raydium, a few other DEXs and have them all on one screen, and I could just compare different prices. But as you said, there's been a complete Cambrian explosion in different markets and different types of markets. And so you guys are doing great work to normalize that and make that a great user experience for everybody.Brian (13:05):Just real quick. You hit on a couple different types of these types of markets. AMMs, the classic example, and then there's concentrated liquidity, Orca's whirlpools have been a huge success recently. Solana's also unique in that we have central limit order books on chain, Serum. And then there's this concept also of professional market makers giving liquidity. Is there any other types of liquidity that you guys are aggregating, and how are you keeping up with these new innovations that are happening?Ben (13:31):There are a lot of interesting things going on. Probably the next set of integrations that will be more interesting for folks is that we are starting to integrate directly with minting and staking programs and not just liquidity pools. And the benefit there for folks is that normally these routes will have either no to very low slippage. So if you wanted to, for example, go from SOL to mSOL and you wanted to convert a million dollars worth of it, usually if it's in a pool, there's a great deal of slippage. But with these direct minting routes, there's almost none. Also, a lot of these minting, staking routes will have zero to low fees as well, because you're working directly with the protocol itself and there's no need to... A lot of times the fees are an incentive for LPs to deposit their liquidity and give them some incentive. If you're talking directly to the protocol itself, there's no need to take fees per se. So they could be zero to low things. So there's some really cool advantages.Brian (14:47):And you guys don't add a fee also, correct? You guys don't add a fee any of your trades.Ben (14:52):We also take zero fees, yes. We take a very long term view with Solana. We think it's super early. We want to grow the volumes in Solana. We want to grow Solana itself as well. And also we're very focused on making sure we deliver the absolute best price swaps to you, and charging a fee on top of DEX fees is not in our interest. We're not really here to extract value, more to give value to end users, developers and anyone that we work with.Brian (15:25):I think we're very aligned on the long term vision and the potential of Solana there. So what is the ultimate process like for integrating these new markets? I imagine, given the scale of your guys' infrastructure, it must be a fairly manual process to review these and normalize different markets. Is there a plan at all to make this in a way in the future where this could be a semi-permissionless thing, where people can add their own markets to Jupiter, or how complex is that integration today?Ben (15:52):For the most part, we've automated everything. So it's really not possible to manually check everything. If there's liquidity on Solana and a token in the token registry, we have it listed on Jupiter within minutes. And that's because we built out the infrastructure to automate everything as much as possible. So for instance, what that means is that for any DEX we aggregate with, we ask if they can provide an API on their markets that they are adding or removing. But because it's early days, not everyone has an API, so we have to do very interesting things, like if it's an open source SDK that the DEX has, we'll crawl the GitHub repo to see what markets they've added to the SDK. Whatever we can do to automate, we have done.Ben (16:39):Part of the promise that we have for Jupiter is the best token selection. So that means if there's some hot token that launches anywhere on Solana, that we've a DEX that we've integrated, we want you to be able to trade it instantly. And that's reason why any project can integrate with us. So if you integrate with us and you're a wallet and all of a sudden, some token blows up, you know that if you're using Jupiter, we've got it, and we've got the best price trades for it. There's a lot of infra work that happens on a daily basis. And again, I don't think anyone should have to replicate this work. So the goal for us to be infrastructure is that, look, you shouldn't have to worry about new tokens. You shouldn't have to worry about performance on routing or where the best price is, or what these dependencies and errors are from these DEXs.Ben (17:34):If you use Jupiter, our goal is to abstract away a lot of these things. So for you, it's just, "Okay, I want to trade this token. Give me the best route. Let me trade it." Now, we're still early. So I would say there's a lot of work to be done, again, not just on our part in our SDK, but for us as an interface to other DEXs and helping them discover what their bugs are, helping them have the right way of surfacing those errors to users in a way that makes sense to them. And then maybe giving users and integrators a choice of what kind of things that they prefer.Ben (18:15):For example, we've been learning that not everyone cares about best price. There are some people that are more like, "Look, I don't need best price. What I would like is like a route that would fail less often." So for example, Serum's liquidity being an essential limit order book is not very predictable compared to an AMM, right? So if you have tight slippage settings, as a trader, your trades may fail more often, whereas you'd really just want to make the trade. And so some folks may be like, "Well, if the best price is on Serum, I'd be okay with maybe not the best price if it's on a constant product AMM or something that I know if I do the trade, it's more likely to succeed." If you're one of those traders, we want to give you that option.Brian (19:07):Yeah, that's great. You know, you've hit on a lot here. One, just being the sheer complexity of what you guys do, given that just the exponential number of new routes that are coming online. You guys also, I believe you allow for multi hops between different routes, right? So it's not just, if I want to go SOL to USDC, I have to go find that pair. You can find an intermediary, same mSOL and then go to USDC. Is that right?Ben (19:30):Yes. So we support multi hop routes. Right now, it is up to two hops. And the benefit there is that one, if there's no direct market, you will still be able to swap between the tokens that you want in one transaction. So you don't have to do it manually in two or more. The other benefit is that it just so happens that you get the best prices by hopping through an intermediary. Because in Solana, the gas fees are so low, hopping through markets is very cheap. And a lot of markets that are either highly volatile or have some price inefficiencies allow you to route through them in order to get more token, really.Ben (20:18):Part of the complexity is actually just finding all these routes. So if you move to two hops, now the number of permutations is even more. And I would say, actually, one of the things that we're working on as a future roadmap item is actually to go beyond two hops. So more than two, say three hops. That's going to allow anyone to access even better price savings and, of course, increase the computation load. But what we're finding ways to optimize on that.Brian (20:48):So you guys have a wide range of users who are using this product. You hit a lot on the users who want the best price. This is probably your everyday retail trader like you or I who just wants to swap between different tokens. You also hit on the trader that just wants to be able to fail less. I imagine you have professional traders looking potentially to arbitrage via Jupiter. And then you also have this incredible SDK. I saw you guys recently announced you have over 42,000 downloads on this thing. Can you speak a little bit to who has been integrating these SDKs? Are these power users? Are these other dApps on Solana? And who is your kind of ideal consumer for these developer tools that you're building?Ben (21:26):So actually since that announcement, we're now at over 52,000 downloads.Brian (21:33):Two announcements on this podcast. I love it, breaking 50k.Ben (21:36):Yeah. So, you know the surprising thing, I mean, we have a lot of different folks who use us. I know of VCs who are using Jupiter to use them for arbitrage trading or playing with arbitrage trading. But the most surprising one is actually new developers, literally developers who are new to developing, and they are new to developing on Solana. And I know this because we spend a good deal of time supporting them and trying to help them out. We've lowered the bar for people who are interested in arbitrage trading. And so now it's just easier for, for folks to get more involved and actually learn to code. People are learning to code, so that's been a surprising thing to see. And there's nothing like free money really to draw people to learn to code.Brian (22:32):Right, to incentivize a new skill.Ben (22:34):Yeah. For us, we want to support anyone who wants to use Jupiter. And probably the more interesting ones are projects that have really interesting use cases. Obviously wallets are an amazing use case for us because you're at a really incredible touchpoint, a very close touchpoint with users. We're really excited about payments. I think while payments is early, it's got a huge potential. And letting anyone buy anything with any token is just super cool. And it doesn't have to be payments. It could be anything. I mentioned NFTs before, but we have a few projects that are doing stuff to make it easier to deposit into vaults. So Friktion uses us because a lot of their vaults take one type of asset, but the user may not have that asset. So why should they come to Jupiter swap, go back to that thing?Ben (23:31):By integrating us, their user gets to stay more on that site. It's fewer clicks, it's a quicker transaction. And because they're using Jupiter, and we want to make Jupiter work for our partners, we allow any partner to easily add their own sort of platform fee so that swaps can be a revenue source for them. And so actually, Friktion, I think they've done a good bit of volume just by adding Jupiter and having that as a revenue source. And there's a few others too. Like some DeFi Land was an early launch partner with us. So if you're swapping anything in their game, you're using Jupiter. We're starting to see some more interesting things come out of this.Brian (24:15):Yeah, I think this highlights two interesting things about Solana in particular. One, the composable nature, obviously. If you're doing something in Friktion with your portfolio management or you're playing a game with DeFi, it's as easy as just adding another instruction essentially, to swap into Jupiter. But then you also hit on another piece that I think doesn't get highlighted enough. This dovetails nicely with your story, that there's a lot of folks who Solana is their first experience at all in crypto, or as you highlighted, maybe ever even coding, which is, I think a really neat opportunity, bringing in new people with new perspectives on what this technology can do. It's pretty great.Ben (24:52):I really see Solana as the practical blockchain, right? It's the one that's going to be accessible for most retail users because it's cheap and fast, but also it's just got a great developer ecosystem of people building games and NFTs that are also just as accessible to the non-crypto enthusiast person. They're like, "Oh, I just want to play a cool game." Or, "I really love this NFT project," or something, "This collection." And to be able to do it with this great, fast, user experience, I feel like it's a hallmark of Solana. It's less about theoretical white papers and more about, "How can I build this great experience for someone to be able to engage with crypto in some way?"Brian (25:40):Yeah. Practical and also building something that users actually love and they enjoy using. So we've hit on a lot today. You guys are integrated across tons of different dApps. You have professional traders using you guys, VCs using you guys. Now with Phantom, we're making this super easy for anybody to swap an extension or on mobile on their phone, get the best price. What is the ultimate vision in your mind for Jupiter? Is this something that will always remain an aggregator, and is cross-chain something that would ever be on the horizon for you guys?Ben (26:13):Good question. A lot of people ask us this question. Currently, we work with some great partners to support the cross-chain use case. I'm not going to rule out cross-chain. There's definitely ways to do it. We're, I would say, a pretty lean team by choice. We just have really good people and I don't think anyone really wants to scale this into a big company with middle managers or anything. We just really like working with good people who are awesome at a lot of things and just moving fast. And because of that, the things that I think give us pause about cross-chain, at least for me, and this is something that we think about a lot is how to execute well on these things.Ben (26:56):And beyond the tech, the bigger thing to really tackle if you're going to do, cross-chain or multi-chain is how do you build a community on all these different chains, and without scaling to huge sizes? And so that's one reason why I think we work with partners, because it allows us to focus on what we do really well, and it allows us to focus and invest in the Solana ecosystem and the users and the community in Solana. We've got an amazing community, and it's because we spent time with them, and we invest in them, and try to give value to them. And I know the other ecosystems and communities on the other chains are very different. And so I don't know if we have yet a model for how to be very successful in those other chains and staying, operating the way we are currently operating.Ben (27:49):It doesn't preclude us from... It could be we figure out something, some way that really works for us and go after it. But for right now, we've got some great partners and we'd rather work with them. And that allows us to focus. I can't say this enough. I think great teams focus, because there's a lot of attractive, shiny new opportunities out there. And what would it be if we weren't relentless in our focus to give best price swaps for people, to make sure that we're always integrating to make sure that we're always improving the performance, to make sure that we're solving these issues. If we went off and chased after some shiny new thing, we really wouldn't be infrastructure. There's a lot of projects and users who depend on us. And so we want to make sure we can continue to deliver on that promise.Brian (28:38):Well, I think you guys have done an incredible job so far delivering on that promise. I know you guys are very highly respected in the Solana ecosystem, which brings us here to our final question we ask all our guests. Who is a builder that you admire in the Solana ecosystem?Ben (28:53):Besides you guys? Can I plug you guys? I mean, look, I'm going to plug you guys because, look. We're big fans of Phantom. I'll give another one, but I do want to say, I'm really personally very excited about our integration and work together. I think you guys have built by far one of the simplest and best wallet experiences out there. One reason why I'm really excited about our partnership is that I think you guys have taken that same simplicity and applied it to Jupiter and our integration, so not only do your users get the power and benefits of Jupiter's ability to get you the best priced token trades, but in a really simple interface that is very accessible for people who are not crypto natives, who don't know what slippage is, who don't know what price impact is, who, who don't know about the various DEXs or how these things work. And what they really want is just to be able to trade from one token that they have to something they heard is pretty awesome or they're really interested in.Ben (29:57):So I'm really excited personally for this integration. That said, separately, I will give a shout out to some other folks we really respect as builders. We're big fans of Friktion. I love their vibe as builders. And the new thing for me being in crypto is how important vibe is. So I don't think I've ever said that in any other industry or any other thing ever, but some of our best partners are just people that we vibe with. We get along. We share values around building. We share values and how we think about things. And it's funny to say these things here, but it makes so much sense now. And I feel one reason why I enjoy working in this space so much is that I never used to think about, do I share values with a partner?Ben (30:49):It's just more like, "Hey, is this valuable to you? Am I valuable? Are you valuable to me? Okay, let's do something." But now it's not just about are you doing something where there's mutual benefit, but do we share the same long term value? And a lot of this is mainly around, are you looking to extract value from the ecosystem? Are you looking to build value, give value to others and just build and ship? So I think Friktion is a great one.Ben (31:18):I've been also a fan of the Orca team for a long time. Also recently, we had STEPN on as an AMA and got to deep dive with Jan, one of the co-founders and have huge respect for that team and their journey as builders. For those who don't know those guys STEPN came about because they failed to raise funding. It was a bad time in the market for them, and so they had the ship. That was it. That was the answer. We can't raise money, so we got to build. We don't have enough time or resources to build a full game. Let's build this simpler thing.Brian (31:58):Yeah, the focus there.Ben (31:59):That focus and that urgency of shipping and building is great, is really, really great. And so I have huge respect for that.Brian (32:09):Well, you mentioned a bunch of great teams there. I know the feeling is mutual on Phantom's side, both between you guys and also you hit on Friktion, on STEPN, and Orca, many others as well, too many to list in this ecosystem. But yeah, the long term alignment, the focus, I think these are all great things that we believe in a hundred percent. Ben, this was a fantastic discussion. Thanks so much for coming on the show. We'd love to have you on again some time. Maybe we can check in on how the swapper's doing. In the meantime, how can people get in touch with Jupiter and how can they learn more about what you guys are building?Ben (32:38):Yeah, you can follow us on Twitter. So we're @JupiterExchange. I highly recommend anyone to join our Discord and our community there. We've got a fantastic community. You can join through discord.jup, jup.ag. Usually our community has the first look on any new announcement or any new cool thing that we have. We also are very, very responsive. The team is listening and responding all the time, both to developer and users. And a lot of the things that you see on Jupiter today came from the community, and a lot of the partnerships also came from the community. So we listen very closely and we also have good discussions with folks. And so if you get involved, you will have a very strong voice in where the future of Jupiter goes. So really encourage people to join the community.Brian (33:33):I love that. That's a great way to end it. Thanks so much, Ben.Ben (33:36):Sure. Thank you.

Kanav Kariya (President, Jump Crypto) joins the Solana Podcast to discuss his optimism for the future and the many areas in which Jump Crypto is innovating in the crypto and blockchain space. Austin Federa (Head of Communications, Solana Labs) guest hosts. 00:49 - What is Jump?03:07 - The path to operationalizing crypto06:00 - Optimism for Crypto10:49 - Discovering and Building in Crypto with Jump14:24 - Personal Journey at Jump16:43 - What's being built at Jump?17:55 - Reasons to want to build19:39 - What does Pyth offer?22:22 - Criticism about conflict of interest26:30 -  How Web 3.0 facilitates resource coordination28:46 - Data contributors benefiting from onchain data31:01 - Token Plans for Pyth31:46 - Message bridging34:48 - Wormhole, stable coins and asset tokens37:36 - Time synchronization for cross-chain dApps39:14 - State storage on wormhole for dApps40:21 - Is Wormhole layer 0?41:14 - Wrapped NFTs44:13 - Jump's position towards NFTs48:36 - Exciting things in the ecosystem49:43 - Custom silicon / FPGAs53:22 - A parallel execution model? DISCLAIMERThe content herein is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, without any express or implied warranty of any kind, including warranties of accuracy, completeness, or fitness for any particular purpose. Those who appear in the content may have a financial interest in any projects referenced, and any content herein is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice, investment advice, trading advice, or any other advice.  This content is intended to be general in nature and is not specific to you, the user or anyone else. You should not make any decision, financial, investment, trading or otherwise, based on any of the information presented without undertaking independent due diligence and consultation with a professional advisor. Austin (00:10):Welcome to another episode of The Solana Podcast. I am Austin Federa, sitting in for Anatoly again this week. Today we've got a pretty special episode I think. I'm really looking forward to this conversation. I think it's been a long time coming with a few false starts. Today we have Kanav Kariya president of Jump Crypto, or do we just say Jump at this point?Kanav (00:32):Yeah, Jump Crypto is good.Austin (00:34):President of Jump Crypto, which maybe this time last year very few people knew existed, very few people knew what you guys were doing, what you were building, what your role in the ecosystem has been. So yeah, I guess let's just go ahead and Jump right into it. What is Jump Crypto and how did it come about?Kanav (00:51):Yeah, thanks for having me on Austin. So for context for the audience that aren't very familiar with us, Jump is historically a prop trading firm founded over 20 years ago in the pits at the CME. Today one of the largest quantitative trading firms in the world. And we started a crypto division over seven years ago. It started as an intern project at the University of Illinois, where we were running a miner in a closet and building some trading infrastructure.And today we've got over 150 people on the crypto team doing a lot of different things. So the way I like to describe our business is spitting it into three primary pillars. One is prop trading, which is exactly what we do on the other side of the house, we build trading intelligence and we scale it. The second piece is building and that's the piece that I hope we'll get to talk a lot more about on this call and it's closest to my heart and closest to the heart of the team.And that's in building pieces of infrastructure, really streets and sanitation for the space and a couple of the marquee projects that we've really focused a lot of our efforts on have been Wormhole and Pyth. And of course, along the journey, we've aligned ourselves with a lot of the major ecosystems in the place, including Solana, Terra and a whole number of others in building a lot of different things across those platforms.The third bucket is venture, I like to call ourselves accidental VCs in that we found opportunities to add value, or we had requests come in to work with partners over the last six years in various different capacities. And we found that we could be meaningful in those contexts and work with people that were solving problems for us. And that has now grown into the venture division that's deploying across the space.Austin (02:31):I want to get into a lot of the work that Jump is doing as core code contributors and supporters of projects in the ecosystem. But I kind of want to start a little bit with that journey. I would say that the transition from prop trading equities and commodities to prop trading crypto, that feels pretty organic. And there's a number of firms in the space that have also made that transition. Albeit you guys seem to have made it sooner than a lot of other firms in the industry. What was that process like of going from deciding that you wanted to add crypto to actually operationalizing that? And then we'll get into some of the journey to actually becoming builders.Kanav (03:07):The project started as an intern project at this thing called Jump Labs. There was a research lab at the University of Illinois and was meant to work on cool stuff with the university on working on fun problems. So alongside the crypto stuff we were doing when I was an intern, there was a VR project working with professors at the university to abstract away trading screens. And there was work on some interesting machine learning and networking problems.And the group has grown out of that. And of course matured out of these things, but we've definitely strongly retained that ethos. Now I want to caveat this by saying we definitely didn't have oppressions in being infrastructure builders. When we started the project in the lab that many years ago. It's been a very organic and natural process for us. And it's hard to make the instant leap from prop trading to what we're doing today, but it's easy to reason through the steps along the way.As one of the earliest large trading firms in the space, we had a lot of requests from institutional liquidity exchanges, OTC platforms, and importantly projects that were looking to solve trading and liquidity related problems. And those conversations gave way to us exploring a lot of DeFi projects and a lot of L1 platform projects that shared a lot of the problems they were thinking through on complex financial system design or programming in resource consumer environments, which are very natural and germane to a quantitative trading firm. And those conversations led to jamming about foreign ideas to implementing governance proposals, to maybe starting to write a little bit of code in them. And then all the way into committing over 50, 70 engineers that we have today in building through the space. And that process involves a few different steps. One, it involves the willingness for the institution at large to be mentally long the space. It requires a recognition and frankly a little bit of a taste of the upside.It requires flexibility, which of course, prop trading firms just generally naturally just have to have. And then everything else you can just learn along the way, right? We've done a lot of things wrong. We've stumbled over ourselves a hundred times, but you've got to keep digging shots on asymmetric upside and with all the resources that we've had at the firm I think we've been able to make some good ones.Austin (05:20):Going back to you last year, Jump Crypto had sort of a moment where it decided it wanted to make itself public. You wrote a blog post that was laying out. I wouldn't quite call it a thesis, but laying out an idea of how you view the space and the role that something like Jump could play within it. One of the things I was struck by going back and rereading this is your level of optimism in this post, right? Which is something that you don't see from many financial trading firms. You see them seeing opportunities to make lots of money. You see them making lots of money. They're very profitable endeavors, but you usually don't see optimism contained within it. Where'd that come from?Kanav (06:01):That's a pretty good question. So quant firms today are basically research and development firms, right? So the people that build trading systems, that build the intelligence behind trading systems are generally of quantitative background. They generally have PhDs in either statistics, machine learning, physics, those kinds of endeavors. And the people building the platforms are low latency high performance systems engineers that there are different optimizations across every level of the stack to build robust, scalable, fast infrastructure.The environment down to the lab five years ago was about exploring this space. It was like, what does this space mean? Right. And it wasn't about, okay, how are we going to make X billion dollars kind of getting into this endeavor? It was about exploring it. And I think it attracted that kind of people and it occurred that kind of environment.And the leadership that stays since then has kind of embodied that. And just personally I'm a raging optimist, I believe in technology, I believe in the future, I believe in building towards something bigger. And thankfully I think the firm has shared those ideas and I hope I've been able to shape a lot of the culture and behaving that passion.Austin (07:10):Where do you think that optimism in yourself comes from? There's a lot of things you could have gone into coming out of school. What about both, something, an organization like Jump, which is undoubtedly a great place to go work. But you stay there for a while now, you've worked your way up, you're now in charge of the crypto division. Where does that sense of optimism in you come from and what makes Jump the right place for that?Kanav (07:33):I feel something for Jump because they had a cool internship program and they had a lab on site and they were working on really fun problems in a well resourced environment, that just made it fun and attractive. And after I had the opportunity to intern there for eight to 10 months, I kind of got a sense for the possibilities that existed. And this is the flexibility that the whole space had. And it was like, you come in, you get to make a lot of bets, you get a lot of resources. And if you make good bets, you get more resources and then you get more resources. This is the only place I've ever worked. I think it would be rather unique to have that kind setup. And again, no, I wouldn't say it was a passion moment to come in to Jump and know that I would be able to build suites and sanitation for crypto. But I knew I would get to do a lot of really cool stuff, work on fun problems with smart people. And where does optimism come from?Austin (08:25):Yeah. I mean, you look at a space like this. It's been through boom and bust. There's tons of amazing projects being built in the space that end up going nowhere. And especially from the vantage point of a trading firm, right? One of the secret sauce of a trading firm is it can make money in an up marketing, it can make money in a down market, right. And that is the advantage of a professional trading operation versus a more passive trading operation. But again, like those are not usually characteristics that breed optimism. Those are usually characteristics that bleed margins, where you're optimizing 1%, 2%, 3% here. So you can compound that over a year and it will make a marginal difference. But again, that's not usually an optimistic space, that's a very functional space to work in.Kanav (09:10):Yeah, it is. And traditionally I don't think it lends itself to naturally just exactly this. Jump culture has kind of always been a little bit unique. So Jump also has a number of other kind of divisions that work on non-high frequency trading stuff. Historically, since about 2011 or 2012, had a VBC arm called Jump Capital that invests in growing technologies in this space. They've had some cool endeavors in the biospace working on automation there in healthcare.And so the founders have generally been optimist. They definitely believe in the future. They've been able to take shots at things that are going on. And even if it's not naturally germane to the trading business in and of itself, the culture itself lends itself to being able to do something like this, which is a really awesome combination of knowing how to monetize, but then also knowing how to build. Yeah, it's been an absolute pleasure to be able to soak in from that environment.Austin (10:04):Let's look at the building for a bit. I think it's pretty open secret at this point that Jump are core contributors to Wormhole and Pyth, you've been very heavily involved in that process. Take me back to some of the early days there where you are internal to Jump, and you're saying like, "Hey, we need to do more than just trade and invest in this space. I think we can actually build." And especially you're talking about this from the perspective of sanitation and roads and the very base level infrastructure. Crypto's been around for a long time. I think most people coming into the space in that time horizon wouldn't have necessarily looked at and said like, "Oh, there's very base level features that are missing from this ecosystem." What was that both discovery process like, and then the process of convincing everyone internally that this was worth dedicating resources to?Kanav (10:50):Yeah, the discovery process was very organic. We had a lot of inbound from people looking to solve trading and liquidity problems because a lot of people in the space, even though we were quite kind of new of our trading presence, and as one of the early trading firms that really was trying to make bigger pushes in the space. When you get to talk to awesome founders every day about all the problems that they have and get to build relationships with them, you start to uncover a lot more of the problem space that exists, start to internalize a lot of it.And once you've got the opportunity to sit in that for a little bit, and I'm sure you see this today. We are much later on than we were when we made a lot of those big switches, but there's still a lot of opportunity, right? When we were kind of ideating on the origins of Pyth, the conversation we had was, look, our whole thesis at Jump Crypto is to be as long aligned with the space as possible, right? We're trying to get the maximum exposure we can on the space that we think is going to be explosive. And we're trying to ideate this ways which we put that quote unquote trade on, right? The best way to put a long trade on in a growing space, and the best mode to value capture is value creation. There's definitely a lot of inefficiencies created by hyper growth, right? And there's room to capture those inefficiencies. But those are small in magnitude relative to the absolute value creation at play.And then there's a value creation capture correlation that you think about there. So if you think about it in that lens and you know that you want to be big contributors to the space and just aim to create a lot of value to both, then you start thinking about what the opportunities are within your realm to be able to engage in that capacity.Austin (12:27):But at some point there's a meeting, or you have a boss who you report to, and you have to go down and sit down in front of him or her and say, "Hey, I want to spend a lot of money to hire a lot of engineers to do something that's going to be totally public and totally open source at a firm that historically likes to stay out of the news."Kanav (12:46):It was a few meetings.Austin (12:46):Yeah, I'm sure.Kanav (12:46):And it's kind of baby steps along the way, or big steps along the way that compound into a complete shift and a big switch of that nature. We had this summit, we called the August summit a few years ago. And we went down to an offsite location and we talked about what being in this space means for us and how we differentiate. And I remember we showed up with these sheets that we went around and distributed to people. We were like, this is the toolkit that we have. This is the opportunity set in the space.And everyone kind of had their own, things went on, but that was one of the approaches that I've taken. And if we believe this is where the space is going, this is the opportunity set that we can tackle. And these are the levels that we have to pull, right? And then you socialize that and you try to convince them people that there is opportunity to be had here and you get buy-in to take a first little step. And once you get the buy-in to take a first little step, and you kind of really show the big medics of differentiation in a native space, you get the buying for the next step.And then suddenly it's the entire [inaudible 00:13:47]. You get the whole kitchen sink thrown behind you, and then you are kind of propelling to this part that you want to be at. And that's the whole thesis of Jump everywhere. You take bets with asymmetric upside and we throw the kitchen sink at things that are working. And a lot of the stuff that we were doing started working.Austin (14:02):How is that journey for you personally, going from an intern involved in a few projects now to the Jump Crypto teams over a hundred at this point?Kanav (14:11):Yeah. We've got over 150 now, hard to keep track.Austin (14:14):Wow. Yeah. From a leadership role, and from your own perspective, how has that transition been? What parts of it were easier for you? What parts were harder than you were anticipating? Scaling yourself is often much harder than scaling a company.Kanav (14:28):Without a doubt, yeah. I started in the team as an intern like you pointed out, working on software problems. I came back to the team a year later in a formal full-time capacity, working on quant problems, which was to do with predicting crypto markets, building alpha and kind of scaling that piece. And the early conversations with projects where we were trying to solve liquidity problems was an area that I got really, really interested in. And I just kind of went about trying to build that a little bit further.Over time that led to a transition from engineering and quantitative work to more conversational business development work, just having spent years across all those functions and natively knowing how to live them has been the biggest tool that I've been able to build in the toolbox. Now that doesn't teach you how to manage a hundred people, that doesn't teach you how to propagate culture. It doesn't teach you how to scale hiring strategy. Doesn't teach you how to value the troops when things are low.I definitely want to make a claim that there are many who are close to a finished product, rather than trying to be good at everything, good at every one thing, we always try to be excellent at a few things. And then by force just propel everything forward. I'd say some of the biggest lessons I've learned, the biggest mistakes we've made, definitely been in the shape of trying to shove square bags in a round hole. Where in a trading environment it's like the only people you have on your team are engineers and quants. They're just smart people that can solve any shape of technical problem you throw them at. When you move that towards sales and marketing and product and everything else, that all kind of falls apart.Kanav (16:05):And you need people that are able to natively live within specific sub domains across those functions. And that's something that we've been trying to scale in. I spend basically all my time hiring and trying to focus on making sure our zero to one projects have a lot of momentum. But yeah, it's been an awesome journey. And of course I have support from a company that's grown to a 1500 people as the largest quant trading firm in the world and so lots of guidance and help along the way.Austin (16:33):Let's talk a little bit about that work you guys are doing and actually building. So if I understand correctly, the two projects that you are mostly core contributors to is Pyth and Wormhole. Is there anything else that you'd put into that category of engagement?Kanav (16:46):That's the highest level of engagement for sure. We do a lot of things across the big ecosystems of course. We can talk all of what we're doing with Solana. We're always trying to get deeper. We built an NFD project on the Metaplex landscape after their investment as an intern project. That was a real fun one. We've been core contributors to some of the projects that are coming out on the data landscape today. We've worked on a lot of the mechanism design that goes on, on the other one. And there's a few other projects, but the highest levels of engagement have definitely been with Wormhole and Pyth.Austin (17:18):Looking at over that landscape, Pyth high frequency Oracle. But again, Oracles, they've existed for a long time. There's a number of name brand ones that got their start on the ecosystem in the 2017 range. Lots of people have had ideas about Oracles over the years, some of them have worked, some of them haven't. Similar to Wormhole, bridges have existed for a long time. Bridges are actually the basis of how any L2 works, right? Both of these are hardly new ideas I would say. What about looking at the landscape gave you guys the confidence to say, not only there's a need for something different, but we can help build something different and better.Kanav (17:57):Again, just like 100% organic. In that August summit, we were looking at some of the biggest things we could do. And a big problem that everyone kind of kept voicing to us is that they don't have access to equities data. They don't have access to fast data so that they don't have to have things like clawback mechanisms and all these different things that LPs don't get direct on every turn, right?The fundamental thing with financial oracles is that they're used to settle risk transfer. They're used to set a price at which two parties exchange value. And if that price is latent or slow or not accurate, one side gets left folding the bag. Now, DeFi, the way protocols are constructed, the side that gets left holding the bag is either the LP that's contributing to the protocol or the protocol stakers or a key stakeholder in building the ecosystem.And the takers are able to take all that value. If you are going to build something that's going to house all of OTC, if we're building something like synthetics for example, and your protocol stakers are taking the other side of every trade that happens on S-Oil or SSNP, you need to make sure that's the right price. Otherwise you're just going to get up the way down to zero. When we were ideating on what the biggest ways we could contribute is let's contribute our data. And the first idea was in let's start, let's go and figure out how we bring together a network of people to build an Oracle.It was how do we contribute our data, right? And we browsed through the category of solutions. We had all the conversations. We spoke to dozens of investors and builders in the space. And there wasn't an easy way to slot in high fidelity financial data, into existing Oracle solutions. And so we spoke with some of the founding partners of the Pyth program and came to consensus that there was an opportunity here. And that led to the first step and we just kept building sets.Austin (19:39):In your mind, what is it that Pyth offers that other Oracle solutions don't offer?Kanav (19:46):Pyth is a very hyper specialized tool for high fidelity financial data, specifically financial data for settlement of risk transfer, right? If you think about the way the market data landscape looks today, it's different across asset classes, but there is a class of people that have access to high fidelity, streaming price data that they can legally distribute and make available to a protocol, create like an Oracle program.One you need access to very fast financial data, which is hard to get and even harder to have a legal right to distribute. You want to make sure that the people who are publishing the prices are the real owners of the data so that you can set incentives for the data to be accurate, right? If you are staking the value of a third party aggregator, their third party aggregator has no skin in the game. That's one of the other kind of fundamental things that you have to think about.And third, you need to acknowledge the fact that a price is not absolute. A price for Bitcoin has about 20 liquid trading venues that are distributed across the globe that can often be fractured, that can often have all kinds of different idiosyncrasies. And that being able to accurately determine the price on most relevant venues and build a dispersion is really important. If you think about kind of all those things together, you want very fast access. You want a broad range of access of independent sources, not reporting from the same source.You want very high liveness and uptime of course, and you want kind of good legal clarity that that price can continue to be distributed because you don't want the application to suddenly get turned off when the regulator says, "What's going on?" And those are the kind of key things that Pyth has really focused on very heavily to build that piece of infrastructure and Solana was the perfect opportunity. Before Solana there wasn't a way to create a high fidelity fast Oracle. There just wasn't a need for it and there wasn't a platform for it, right. And so all those things just came together.Austin (21:49):One of the criticisms that you'll hear about Pyth is that because of its structured model here, where the people providing data are permissioned at this point and are also like firms that are professionalized trading operations themselves, that there is an inherent kind of conflict of interest in that system. With any system in blockchain, you have to assume everyone is trying to cheat, everyone is trying to extract the most value possible. How have you gone about setting up incentives to make sure that the users of Pyth and the contributors to Pyth are not at odds with one another?Kanav (22:27):Yeah. I think you made a totally fine point there in that we are building for byzantine systems, right? And so that's the kind of incentive design you've got to keep in place. I'll frankly say I think that claim is a little bit ludicrous for a few different reasons. Once you peel back the onion just a little bit, and I'll talk through some of the reasons why.Austin (22:43):Let's peel back the onion.Kanav (22:44):One, you've got to first understand that the amount of value that can be created in actually pulling something like Pyth off successfully is dramatic. And the forms that are building this are now incentive aligned to make that happen. But two, this is an open sourced protocol, it is decentralized, and you can look at exactly what the inputs are, how they're being aggregated and what their resort in price output is.Three most importantly, there are about 50 financial firms that are submitting independent price data to this article to construct final outputs. And these financial trading firms aren't friendly with each other. This is the very first time that a group of highly adversarial trading firms, banks, exchanges, and ODC players across the entire space have come together and said, "Let's go build a piece of infrastructure." And one, I think that needs to be celebrated a lot, it's a huge win.But two, the trading firm, there are 50 global financial trading firms contributing their proprietary prices directly to Solana on the Pyth program today. We have realized that these 50 comprise of between 60% to 80% of global asset class volumes at this point, given the network of participants that have aggregated around this protocol. When you are that big of market share that you're covering that kind of breadth, the participants in the protocol themselves are on the other side of each other's trades almost by definition. And so who's manipulating the price against who? Let's kind of just start there.The system of incentives that set up in this taking protocol, you can read through this on the Pyth white paper has some really intelligent aggregation algorithms that put all this data together, that identify the quality of each of these independent data publishers that then sets out a mechanism to aggressively punish providers that don't have good prices. And good prices can mean I published a malicious bad price. It can mean I have slow prices. It can mean I published, I had a bug, it can mean anything.The incentive design mechanism is meant to reward data providers that are not honest, but that have great data. And that's a fundamental difference in how system designs, we're not kind of rewarding agreement, we're rewarding prediction. And so you are rewarded for correctly predicting the price that would come up rather than for rewarding agreement between parties, and which can both have different kind of models and can both work in different ways.But there is almost no possibility for one collusion across these landscapes, given the composition of the people in the network. And the incentive structure again is obviously explicitly set up to discourage that. Third, all these forms are heavily, heavily regulated. I spoke about 20 years of its reputation and a giant, giant business behind kind of making a lot of this happen. And we're definitely incentive aligned to make this thing as successful as it can possibly be.Austin (25:39):The Web 2.0 world and the rise of FinTech apps has largely taught people that organizations that claim to be on their side often aren't. There's very legitimate reasons from a market making perspective that during the game stock run up and squeeze, users of Robinhood and other FinTech applications, their trading was turned off. Now, there's a bunch of really good backroom reasons for why that might have happened. But the effect is what matters to the retail trader, which is that they were using a platform that they thought gave them equal access to a market, that platform did not provide them equal and neutral access to a market.I think when people look at something like Pyth, it wouldn't be crazy to say that, well, the same incentives that made us think that Robinhood was on our side, could also be applied to Pyth. What is different about the Web 3.0 space and the construction of something like Pyth in your view that makes that not something someone should worry about.Kanav (26:37):Web 3.0 is fundamentally any means of resource coordination, and it facilitates that by, one, facilitating the export of trust. And the export of trust is actually one of the big reasons why the whole Robinhood debacle went on, right. They basically ran out of margin requirements in order to continue to clear trades on one side, since it was so directional.And there is this massive web of intermediaries that set up all throughout traditional finance for the express purpose of establishing trust as the FCM, the DCM, the clearinghouse, all the other three letter acronyms. And all of them exist to make sure that when a match occurs on any platform that actually settles into a financial trade.In crypto the match is the execution. And that's facilitated by the fact that you can export all the trust of executing a piece of code onto Solana, onto Ethereum, onto the blockchain itself. And that's unlocked this completely new means of resource coordination, which makes things like Pyth possible. It means that you can explicitly lay out a system of incentives in a closed loop fashion. And regardless of who's uploading the code, or who's proposing designs or architecting any of this, everybody is independently participating according to the incentives laid out very plainly by the program itself.And that means DRW and Jane Street don't have to trust Jump when they decide to publish prices to pay. That means they look at the program that's running on Solana that they can read. They look at Solana's trust model and decided they can or don't trust Solana as a platform. And then contribute to the platform that then self executes and lives on its own terms. And the fact that we can allow different kinds of state to compose in a trustless fashion is the entire revolution Web 3.0, that's basically what the whole space has been building for the last 10 years. And that's what makes Pyth possible, it simply was not possible before.Austin (28:32):What does something like Jump or Jane Street or anyone who's a data contributor to Pyth, what do they get out of it? What is their incentive apart from any rewards that might be generated from contributing data. How are they then going back and using this on chain data in their own operations?Kanav (28:51):There's a few elements. And so one, it is fundamentally a two sided marketplace, right? It has data publishers and it has data consumers. And the other interesting thing like Uber did for taxi cabs, where it created a marketplace where cars could now come online, created this marketplace where data that was once latent came online.Jump is publishing its own trades to the Pyth network. That is IP that it has the legal rights over, has only just been a cost center so far, and now has the opportunity to get monetized. And that's the same for all of the trading firms that sit in the network. It's a lot of people to turn cost centers into potential elements in the marketplace and that bootstraps the supply. The consumers of the data obviously are paying for this extremely created highly robust set of data inputs that then get aggregated. And that creates kind of flows in one direction. And then like your regular two sided marketplace, it accrues value, right?All the data publishers today in Pyth have some sort of stake of asset interest in the thing succeeding. And there is a set of incentives that then rewards them for the correct participation going on with fees, rewards, all those kinds of things. And all that is in gross detail laid out in the white paper and we can go over some of that. But the off chain applications and some of this stuff is also quite interesting, right?So if you look at kind of back office systems around the world at forms like Jump, you don't need microsecond level access to financial data, but you need that for your trading engines because otherwise you're playing at a disadvantage related to the field. But in order to make sure that your clearing prices have happened correctly in order to make charts in order to do something like a trading view, in order to get on the Bloomberg terminal or to be on a ticker somewhere, all these applications are now easily facilitated by subscribing to something like Pyth, that's living on an open kind of blockchain area. And so a lot of the off-chain use cases are getting more and more interesting I think over time. The fundamental value is in creating the pricing source for on chain data. And this is kind of like an awesome thing that just falls out of it.Austin (30:56):That's a really interesting way of thinking about both the incentive alignments and the rule that the data providers versus the data consumers play in the market. Are there any token plans for Pyth?Kanav (31:07):Yes, there is a token plan for Pyth. You can read all about it on the white paper, no comments on timing or anything of that at this point. And that's going to be a networking governance decision, but I'm sure in the near future.Austin (31:16):Transitioning over to Wormhole, which is the other project that Jump is heavily involved in as a core contributor of the code. When people look at wormhole, I think it's very easy to look at it and say, asset bridge, multi chain, cool, fundamentally utility. The first thing I noticed when we were talking about this and looking through it is this whole component of allowing different smart contracts on different blockchains to communicate with each other. I think most people understand how asset bridging works. Can you talk a little bit about this whole concept of message bridging?Kanav (31:51):Yeah. And this also kind of goes back to your question on, how do you decide that there's an opportunity here when bridging is something that people have talked about for a while? When we were kind of ideating with everybody else on kind the Pyth's team and the network on how Pyth goes across chain. Hendrick and team were building Wormhole as Solana Eths token bridge on the hackathon project at [inaudible 00:32:17].And I called Hendrick and I asked him, "Look, is there a way to generalize this thing so that we can get Pyth messages across?" We're building this Oracle thing on the best, fast, scalable censorship resistant message bus we can, but we want to get it to all the other ones that operate on a slightly different resolution. And through the course of that conversation, we came to a conclusion that enabling generic message bosses to allow this cross chain composability in a much more high dimensional fashion than just the token bridge word was a massive opportunity set that had to be filled.And so when we launched last August as a completely generic message bus. And what that means is that any piece of state that is created or lives on a blockchain can be included as a message that then gets communicated to any other blockchain environment. And so if you think about Oracles, you think about a governance board, right? Uniswap passes a governance board on Ethereum, produces workloads on a lot of different chains. The outcome of that governance board has to, in a secure, reliable fashion, be communicated to all the other geographies that Uniswap lives on. That needs to be encoded as a message.And so Wormhole has outpost contracts on every chain that is deployed, it is deployed over eight chains today. The outpost contract just listens for a message that is sent to that contract and the Wormhole network of guardians attests to that arbitrary binary block. That block can then be picked up, relayed to any other blockchain environment, verified that is coming attested from the homeowner network and then decode to do anything arbitrary and interesting. And so generic message process have really exploded over the last year. We've seen so many awesome applications being built on it. And I think we're just kind of scratching the surface, right? There's a lot to do here.Austin (34:04):When I think about messaging, I think about how a lot of the models right now for cross chain communication of assets are a little tedious and maybe have more risk inherent to them than are necessarily required. A very centralized example, USDC, right? You can go to FTX and you can withdraw USDC as an ERC-20, as an SPL token or across several different networks. And what's happening there largely is because the mint authority to that is centrally controlled. They're able to issue new, quote unquote new USDC natively on each layer that USDC is supported on. Do you see the capability of developers using something like Wormhole to make that possible for fully decentralized, both stable coins and just asset tokens?Not only possible, but already widely adopted in the Wormhole X asset framework, right? There's over four and a half billion of assets in the token bridge today. And the word token bridge kind of has meant a lot of different things to people at different points in time, right? The old token bridges were bidirectional, state sponsored bridges that sovereign ecosystems would run to communicate to Ethereum, to get liquidity in as soon as possible.And then if you send that across a different bridge, then you would have like a double wrapped and triple wrapped implementation and just an absolute UX nightmare. When you use something like Wormhole's X asset framework, you retain complete path independence as you move assets across the ecosystem. Once you're registered as an X asset, let's take USD as an example, there's a couple billion dollars of USD on the bridge today. It flows throughout the ecosystem using Wormhole on the back end, Terra bridge money, uses one more on the back end to expose one of many front ends to users.When USD flows from Terra over to Ethereum or to Solana to Polygon and then to Avalanche, it retains the same representation on Avalanche that USD flowing from Terra to Avalanche directly or through any other part in the ecosystem would retain. It's a truly cross chain native asset. It doesn't fracture liquidity, it fungus seamlessly, and it allows a lot of cool composition.If you look at something, now like the result in second order effects of this, it's this theme that we've been calling X Dapps, right? So cross chained apps. And we've seen kind of the first marquee deployment of one of these apps in the form of X anchor, which is deployed on the Avalanche chain now, right?And X anchor is just a light set of endpoints that's deployed on Avalanche. And all that does is it lets you kind of hit some functions that then really assets and/or messages bundled or separately or back to the Terra blockchain and then trigger state transitions on the Terra site. Anchor contracts don't need to be deployed to every chain. You don't need to replicate state everywhere, you don't need to stay synchronized continuously. But you allow for outposts and communications and different chains to then communicate back to the home chain using messages and assets. And now the USD that's in the X asset standard can be deployed to X anchors everywhere. And it's a much faster, much more robust getting strategy that has far less communication over.Austin (37:07):Let's dig into just a little bit on like a technical level too. When you're talking about X Dapps or cross chain Dapps that are communicating via Wormhole, you're inherently talking about fractured state across multiple L1s or L2, it's unavoidable when you're ... anything cross chain is inherently working under a fractured state model. How fast does that time synchronization need to be for developers to actually deploy something like an AMM or a club across chain and actually maintain price parody and appropriate liquidity between them.Kanav (37:42):Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up. There's a few different programming models for how cross chain Dapps works, right? One is you try to state synchronize as aggressively as possible. You keep sending messages back and forth. You have allowances, risk limits, tolerances that allow your apps to communicate. And the other is this X Dapps framework where state only lives on one chain and you allow people from other chains to then interact with it.Now, of course that also comes with its own downsides, right? If you look at something like a club and you're trying to trigger a cross chain swap using the club from another chain, you are inherently incurring the latency of the two blockchain transactions and the finality assumptions that you want to kind of work with that. The more stateful your application becomes, obviously the more latency and risk constraints everything through. With something like a lending protocol or like a cross chain anchor, things like that. They are less stateful than something like an order book, but order book is probably the most stateful you can get right in the spectrum of applications.And so any cross chain swap design inherently has to have some additional liquidity back then, that's like fundamental, right? You can ask people to take risk on your behalf. You can have the protocol take risk on your behalf, but that risk exists. There's a lot of ways to program around it and create better user experiences, but fundamentally that's a real problem and somebody has to be compensated with that risk.Austin (38:56):For the X Dapp framework, are you looking to actually be able to offload compute to the wormhole level there? Or is it really just ... The natural extension of this seems to be that eventually there's some sort of state storage on Wormhole that Dapps are able to actually access and leverage with some functionally side chain compute resourcing. Are you guys thinking about that as well?Kanav (39:19):Yeah. The fundamental cross chain thesis is that there are going to be independent, specialized compute environments that attack their own communities, their own audiences and their own apps. And Wormhole is away for folks to leverage state that results from these autogenous environments and compute the solutions on these environments to compose.And you can cut that in a million different ways. You can leverage Solana as a state execution machine. You can leverage Terra as your stable coin asset layer and you can represent this third thing as a NFT thing, or you can bundle them all in. But the Wormhole vision itself right now with all the genetic message capabilities that are out there, in the near term roadmap doesn't need to build an execution layer of its own. It can naturally extend to it. I think you're definitely kind of pointing to something that's relevant.But I don't know if that's the lowest hanging fruit given the capacities that exist in current blockchain compute environment. The vision of course is to make people, Web 3.0 users rather than blockchain users or L1 users. You basically want to deploy resources to the most relevant execution environment with the right community, that's creating the right apps and then expose that to at a higher order to consumers.Austin (40:24):Would you describe Wormhole as layer zero?Kanav (40:28):I'm rather old school, I think of layer zeros as networking protocols and internet backbones and things like that. I think it is maybe a useful analogy for kind of blockchain audiences given how we've very economically can't use the word L1, so I don't have an allergic reaction to it, but it's not my first word of choice.Austin (40:46):What would your first word of choice be?Kanav (40:49):Interoperability protocol. I'm not that creative.Austin (40:51):Yeah. Wormhole is also supporting wrapped NFTs, which is kind of an interesting concept. I think most people don't think of NFTs as something that's been bridged and quite frankly, the numbers on Wormhole on bridge NFTs are quite low compared to the success as an asset bridge or a messaging bridge. What was the original idea of using wrapped NFTs? And why do you think it hasn't caught on as much yet?Kanav (41:20):I think cross chain NFTs as a story are just beginning to play out. So there's about 16, 1700 on the NFT bridge itself. And again, NFTs are also cross chain fungible and composable across environments. They are also part of the X asset framework. And so X assets can mean anything. It can be in rebasing assets like STE, it can be in NFTs. It can be in fungible assets. It can mean anything else, right?The NFT story started to play out as a result of new other ones trying to access marketplaces that supported one or the other chain, right? And so you get to access as new audiences, you get to create experiences with different communities. You get to access different user bases, but we're seeing the experiences get a lot richer. So you see something like [inaudible 00:42:00] come out recently, they got featured on Bloomberg for new cross chain staking program where they have in game elements that kind of change based on cross chain NFT staking that are different experiences with different communities. And much like the asset bridge has that kind of globalization and cross pollination of commercial kind of elements. Cross chain NFTs are globalization kind of culture. And incorporating a lot of those elements across games that live on Solana, that live on Terra, that live on other environments and just creating those kind of richer experiences.And so we're seeing people make NFTs on one chain, come to Solana, fractionalize them, trade them, put them back in, move them over to OpenSea on Ethereum. There's all kind of interesting use case patterns. And so it's definitely been less aggressively adopted than the explosive token bridge or the other generic message applications. But there are still 16, 7,000 NFTs, there are a lot of teams using it for cool and innovative stuff that we just kind of keep up out of the wood works every some time.Austin (43:02):Do you think that's social? Do you think that's technological? Do you think that's just like the ecosystem hasn't matured enough? I think I'm surprised how much ... well, I guess surprises maybe the wrong term. People have a lot of emotional attachment to an NFT, in the same way they don't have an emotional attachment to a Bitcoin. They may have emotional attachment to the concept of a Bitcoin, but I would be upset if I lost my particular Degen ape, even if I got a different one for the exact same value. Do you think that factors in at all to how people view the concept of wrapping an NFT, that it somehow weakens the authenticity?Kanav (43:39):I think for a lot of purists, it does. I think it was just so worthy, right. For the most part, people aren't even going to realize, the large end of this consumers like buying these things, an NBA top shot or air, or any of these other platforms, it's something on the app for them. And eventually it's going to be extracted away as we draw to Eth, we draw to Solana, we draw to wallet, connect wallet, and it's going to be kind of as simple as that. And so we're always going to have purist stakes, but I think that's going to remain within our little chamber here.Austin (44:05):For Jump Crypto in general, how do you view NFTs? There are obviously firms now that are dabbling and market making and NFTs. Is that something that you've looked at and if not, what was the decision not to enter that space yet?Kanav (44:19):It just doesn't take a lot. We are looking at trading opportunities. You are looking about margins, you're looking about what predictive offer you can have, like what the edge you can have on a traders and then how many times you can apply that edge, right? It's just as simple as that. And even if you can get a 30% margin on something that trades a hundred million like week one, I mean, [inaudible 00:44:40] now.But if you have a low volume asset class, even if it has slightly higher edge, and it is harder to predict and more dimensional, this is on a good researching decision. So as that volume changes, we will continue to stay on top of it. And I don't know if these are trading tens of billions of dollars every day, and have really interesting datasets, I'm sure we'll be trading them.Austin (45:00):If the market hundred X in size, you wouldn't be opposed to it, it's just the sizing opportunity issue right now.Kanav (45:08):[inaudible 00:45:08] you can't be the richest man. It's about identifying if there's opportunity and executing all native there is.Austin (45:14):Looking at wormhole, one of the things I do want to touch on is the wormhole hack and exploit that happened a little while ago. It was one of the larger bridge hacks at the time. It was eclipsed a few weeks later by an even larger hack of another bridge, also targeting stolen Eth in this process. I'm sure that activities and projects that Jump has been involved in have had larger losses of money or similar volumes of money just based on the area you operate in. But this is one that inherently to the nature of Web 3.0 is very public. How is that like internally knowing that your core contributors to a project that suffered this kind of exploit, and also that failure is now a public failure, as opposed to maybe where it would've been a private failure beforeKanav (45:56):Building is hard, building in the open is even harder. And building in a decentralized open space where there's a large network of participants, consumers, affected people, the stakes we're playing in, right? That's the stakes that every DeFi application, that every L1 at every bridge and that everything in Web 3.0 that aims to do something meaningful inherently adopts and has to learn to deal with.The hack was big punch in the gut, obviously a big financial loss as well. The fundamental nature of smart contracts is that the code and code can have bugs. And this exploit was kind of deep, deep, deep down in the stack, in kind of like Solana instruction verification account check that was missing. The auditors listed our team that has independently been one of the biggest bug bounty finders in the space missed, and code based at the opportunity to be out in the wide for seven months, kind of had unchecked.The day of the hack, of course really, really rough. Jump is not used to being a public institution. So this was like you said, a very public kind of fallout in nature. I can't possibly have been prouder of the way the team reacted to this incident. We kind identified it within short course of it happening. We pulled the meeting room together, identified the bug, fixed up a batch, managed to coordinate the guardian network to bring it up, bring it down, announce our intent to refill the gaping 320 million hole within an hour of the incident being reported on, and brought the bridge back up within 18 hours to end to end.Building bridges and building cross chain is very, very hard. And that's where the reward for it, building it right, is even harder. You don't even make 320 million decisions very lightly, and this should hopefully signify you how much conviction and faith we have in the code base in bringing it back up in 18 hours. It should tell you about where we think this whole space is going and where Wormhole is going and where interoperability is going and what a core piece of infrastructure in that realm would mean.Security continues to be extremely, extremely top of mind. We have a 10 million bug bounty. We have an internal red team that's basically thinking about breaking Wormhole and our key projects every day. We have multiple audit from [inaudible 00:48:12] with lots of audits going on, pretty intense security review practices, all of which can be found publicly online. And I'm incredibly confident that Wormhole has come out more stronger from this incident. The team has come out kicking and that we're building one of the best and most trusted inter op solutions out there.Austin (48:32):Looking across the ecosystem, let's say over the next 12 to 18 months, what are you personally most excited for and what keeps you up at night? What do you still have worry around?Kanav (48:44):I'm looking forward to a whole bunch of things. So definitely very excited about all the advancements that we are seeing in the succinct proof and zero knowledge space. That stuff is just awesome, it's magic. And I'm just so excited to see all the things that's going to unlock for us. There's a lot of interesting problems in the hardware acceleration space that need to be made to make that possible. There's a lot of problems algorithmically that are kind of being uncovered there. And I think hopefully this conversation has lent on that we have a big infrastructure mindset. When I say streets and sanitation, that's kind of what we think about every day. That's what we're looking forward to. And on what we can build to and contribute to that.Austin (49:19):You said something I got to get a little more info. You said specific hardware to accelerate certain kinds of applications. The only place we've really seen this so far across the entire crypto landscape is ASICs for Bitcoin mining. You see GPU mining optimization, but again, nowadays I wouldn't necessarily even call GPU specialized hardware. It's really commodity hardware at this point that's just deployed for a specific application. When you're looking at the space, where are you seeing actually custom silicon or FPGAs becoming something that it makes sense to deploy?Kanav (49:50):Yeah, I mean, definitely for zero knowledge provers, right? So like two verification times have compressed a lot to the point where it's pretty feasible on most blockchain environments today. But proving itself is still super, super resource intensive. That's where there's a lot of simple math operations that can be encoded into Silicon and into FPGAs or ASICs to speed up the process significantly. And that's where we are seeing a lot of adopt. There's already a lot of people working on this on hardware acceleration using FPGAs, maybe even ASICs on zero knowledge provers.It's a little bit of like it's tough to say when the right time is because there's new changes like algorithmically coming out all the time with the new advances in new papers. And so when you spend a whole bunch of time just optimizing Fast Fourier transforms. And then the next paper makes Fast Fourier transforms not relevant. It's tough to make a decision on when the right time is, but I know there's a lot of work already going on into it. And it's a space that we are very familiar with and that we are also excited about. And mostly, mostly positive stuff on the regulatory side.Kanav (50:56):As of recently I think there's a lot of good faith engagement from regulators around the world on setting frameworks and policies for how kind of all this stuff gets put into place. Outside of maybe China we haven't seen anything very aggressively or handed on cutting off innovation. We even saw India now finally starting to open up. And so I feel more optimistic about the regulatory landscape than I did 12 months ago. We need a new influx of builders to keep coming and building cool experience and leveraging this technology where we're seeing that happen. We need capital being continued to commit to this space where we're seeing that happen.Austin (51:35):The inverse of that question, what are you most concerned about on a macro level for the space still?Kanav (51:39):Asset pricing is of course highly dependent on macro environment and that is unrelated to crypto, right? And there's just like, it's its own thing. And so we'll see price movements on a different time scale. And if you see a very sustained global macro depressed environment, then we're going to see less capital, less builders and less momentum in the space. And I think that's probably the biggest overhang we have today.Austin (52:03):In the long run we're all dead.Kanav (52:05):In the wrong run we're all dead. That's right, so let's keep building.Austin (52:09):Yes. One kind of last question here, I think if you rerun the clock maybe three or four years, the prevailing wisdom in this space was not that traditional financial institutions were going to expand their vision and embrace blockchain and we'd call it Web 3.0 at the end of the day. And you'd have Twitter profile pictures of NFTs, you'd have Jump Trading building software that's open source for a decentralized environment. And we really have seen that that is what was originally pitched as a forked parallel path of economic development.Austin (52:42):It's a little bit more twisty curvy than we thought it was going to be. And there's a lot more integration with traditional companies. As crypto has a thesis about it, that it's moving more consumer, right? Across the spectrum you see more normies getting into crypto in one way or another. Does the existing market of specifically the United States and Europe where you see very few competitors within an ecosystem.Austin (53:07):There's basically only two phone companies. There's basically only three cell phone companies. There's basically only four internet provider companies. Across the spectrum you see very non-competitive markets. When you look at the consumer landscape in the United States, do you imagine that we're going to see similar patterns rolling out there as we saw in the financial industry, or we really are going to go back to that idea of a parallel execution model?Kanav (53:30):Yeah. I'll strongly state that I don't hold a heretical view of this kind of being a completely forked off parallel path that has no relevance to anything that we do today. I think it's an amazing technological invasion that gives us tools to coordinate resources in an untrusted environment. And that's unlocking a lot of magic.Kanav (53:49):But that again bleeds in with the rest of the real world, which is also big and has its own dramatic pieces of innovation and with a whole bunch of other stuff going on. I think one of the most exciting things has been kind of the global equalizer that crypto can serve to be. Yesterday we saw Polygon come out with an integration with Stripe. And these are three kids from India that had no early supporting or backing that kind of boosted the network on their own and are now competing on a very, very competitive landscape with people from every single part of the world that are very well resourced, competent teams.Kanav (54:23):We see [Inaudible] coming from Korea. We see teams from Australia and New Zealand over the [inaudible 00:54:28] guys. We see people from Berlin and the US and everybody competing on the same, not only the similar consumer markets, but also on the same capital markets. And there are network effects that accrue, but not cannibalistic network effects that accrue. That makes me very excited about where the space is going overall. When we talk about integration points itself, it's going to largely depend on [inaudible 00:54:52], right? And that's like an unsatisfactory answer.Kanav (54:55):But if you're talking about financial markets, crypto is already integrated heavily into the financial markets with 15 excellent international venues that are competing, so we already have a fractured environment. That is before the [inaudible 00:55:08], the NASDAQ, the CME groups have made their moves in the space. And they're clearly not going to be monopolies in crypto, obviously, right?Kanav (55:16):If you look at something like a telco and interactions with like cell networks still remains to be seen, whether like decentralized constructions of those kinds of things can be competitive. I mean, building telcos and stuff has such strong network effects and so many economies of scale. And it's unclear whether a Web 3.0 means of accruing that value to a decentralized organization has the ability to accrue the similar kind of network effects and so remains to be seen. But I'm excited to see it play out.Austin (55:43):I always enjoy getting to pick your brain about where these technologies are going and the intersection of a very traditional financial world with this new global system that we've all been building. But thank you so much for joining us for spending some time digging into this stuff.Kanav (56:00):Thanks a lot for having me on Austin. This was super fun and as always, love chatting, so yeah, we'll see you again soon.Austin (56:04):Thanks.

Today on the Ether we have episode 2 of the Ship Show with Pyth Network. You'll hear Composability Kyle, Mike Cahill, Ed.sol, EddieSats, Big Dog Capital, Nick Stathas, and more! Recorded on March 16th 2022. Make sure to check out our sponsors, Orbital Command, Luart, Talis, WeFund, and Glow Yield! We appreciate their support.

On suit le sillage d'un grand navigateur et astronome oublié de nos mémoires et des récits d'expéditions polaires: Pythéas. Parti de Marseille jusqu'au Grand Nord, quatre siècles avant notre ère, l'explorateur grec fit pourtant d'incroyables découvertes.  À l'occasion du Festival de la radio et de l'écoute «Longueur d'ondes» qui se tient à Brest, du 26 au 30 janvier 2022, on va donc suivre un marin grec et non breton, en la personne de Pythéas le Massaliote. Et on va le faire en compagnie de l'écrivain François Garde, invité du festival et auteur de « À perte de vue la mer gelée », une biographie imaginaire de Pythéas.   Parti de Marseille plus de 300 ans avant J.-C. pour une expédition vers l'Atlantique Nord, Pythéas découvrit une île jusque-là inconnue: Thulé, devenue par la suite nimbée de mystère et de poésie. Cap au Nord, ce septentrion mystérieux qu'aucun homme n'avait jusque-là atteint, il fut aussi le premier à rapporter que la mer pouvait geler, à situer précisément la Grande-Bretagne et à expliquer le phénomène des marées. À son retour, il rassembla ses travaux et observations dans un traité, « De l'Océan », qui fut largement commenté et copié pendant l'Antiquité, mais dont aucune page n'a survécu à l'épreuve du temps.  Dans son récit paru aux Éditions Paulsen, le haut-fonctionnaire, ancien administrateur supérieur des Terres Australes et Antarctiques Françaises et écrivain féru des mondes polaires, François Garde, s'attache à réhabiliter cette figure mal connue et longtemps traitée d'affabulateur. Et ce faisant, par la grâce du roman et de sa puissance d'évocation, il livre une formidable ode au voyage, au-delà de ce que l'on sait et connaît. Une émission enregistrée à Brest, lors du Festival de la radio et de l'écoute de Brest: Longueur d'ondes.     Quelques ouvrages de François Garde: - «À perte de vue la mer gelée». François Garde. Éditions Paulsen. 2021. Prix Victor du livre polaire et Prix Marine Bravo Zulu 2021.  - «Marcher à Kerguelen». François Garde. Éditions Gallimard. 2018.  - «Paul-Émile Victor et la France de l'Antarctique». François Garde. Éditions Louis Audibert 2006. - «Ce qu'il advint du sauvage blanc». François Garde. Éditions Gallimard. 2012. Prix Goncourt du premier roman 2012.

The Champions Skins making money for teams was a solid idea, but things get rather messy when the question of who should get the money from the sales start being asked. Do players deserve a lion's share of it, or do organizations have the right to claim it all? (skip to 2:13:38 for the discussion about it) If this week's show is any indication, the offseason is going to be an absolute topsy turvy time of roster upheavals. Teams big and small are making splashes, T1 shifting players, Fnatic getting rid of coaches while 100Thieves promotes them. Nitro and Patiphan return to their old games and Pyth ends up.... in Singapore? What? We also take a long look at the upcoming 2022 season joined by Team Liquid's analyst @Howsthebacon9 which brings us a lot of fear and trepidation of the setup in NA because it look a bit bleak while EMEA has some real cool stuff happening, and who knows maybe Yoru will finally be changed for the better by the time the January signup dates for next season roll around! Live on Twitch (http://www.twitch.tv/dnpeek) every Tuesday at 2pm EST. Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/dnpeek), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/dnpeek/), and check out our website (https://www.dnpeek.com/).

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The topsy turvy world of Valorant roster shuffles continues as TI courts Steel, TSM releases Hazed, and 100T drop FrosT. It's going to be a while before the next season begins, do any of these teams have a need to rush their rosters? We also take some time to look back at Team Liquid dominating RedBull Homegrounds, the rise of the Kansas City Pioneers and Pittsburgh Knights in the Valorant Elite Showdown, and we take a peek at the ongoing Game Changers EMEA Series 3. Oh yeah, and let's not forget there's this suave Daddy who got released in Chamber, and might just be ready to shake up some pro comps going forward! Live on Twitch (http://www.twitch.tv/dnpeek) every Tuesday at 2pm EST. Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/dnpeek), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/dnpeek/), and check out our website (https://www.dnpeek.com/).

Anatoly (00:09):Hey folks, this is Anatoly and you're listening to The Solana Podcast. And today I have with me Tommy and Taylor, co-founders of the PsyOptions protocol. Awesome to have you guys.Tommy (00:18):Thanks for having us.Taylor (00:19):Thanks for having us.Anatoly (00:21):Cool. So what's the origin story? How did you guys get into crypto and what made you build PsyOptions?Tommy (00:27):Crypto, it goes back to... I remember watching the Ethereum ICO, just being a broke college student, but felt we were too broke to actually throw anything into and that's a big regret, but that shaped up how we got into Solana later on. Really dove deep into everything back in 2017, right before the summer hype. And then in the summer hype, tried developing a little bit on Ethereum, doing some solidity development in the spare time, but I never jumped full time into it until PsyOptions. Taylor has a little bit of a different history with crypto.Taylor (01:03):Yeah. I've actually been full-time in crypto since late 2017, after Tommy and I shut down a previous business we started in school. We were looking for different things to do and I knew crypto had a lot of hype in 2017. I was like, "All right, this is definitely an industry I could see myself being a part of." I eventually took a job at Blockfolio and then as well as doing some freelance solidity development and then been full-time ever since.Anatoly (01:27):How did you guys meet? What was the genesis for you guys to go build PsyOptions?Tommy (01:32):Well, Taylor and I are twins, so we met a long, long time ago. We've always been hacking on ideas and stuff. And I guess, Taylor had his eye on Solana from 2018, right Taylor?Taylor (01:47):Yeah, pretty early on. I remember Multicoin writing about it. I was like, "Oh, this is actually a really sweet architecture, solves a lot of problems that we saw in Ethereum." And kept following before Mainnet beta was launched.Tommy (01:59):Yeah. And so we had been tinkering around, created a GitHub organization last summer, like the same one we're using now and just started reading the documentation. And then had a few projects we tried in the fall that never really took off. And then in October we were surfing with Tristan from FTX and he was just talking about Serum and everything that they were working on. So we knew what was in the pipeline and had that in the back of our mind. We did the first hackathon, did in place, built a trusted third party Oracle. And then after that had an issue with TradFi, trying to get API access to automate a options trading strategy, and that was what kicked it off. We were for fresh off that first hackathon, wanted a fresh idea, had our feet wet in Solana. And it was like, "Taylor, what if we just built options into the blockchain? We can get this API access built in. We have the order book already there, there's some basic infrastructure." And that was the genesis.Anatoly (02:59):That's awesome. Limited access to data was one of the reasons I started building this thing. Because I used to try to build stupid deep learning models on interactive brokers and you never have access to data. It's always even the quality is really suspects. It's like, "Do I really know that this is where things got executed? Or did they just copy and paste stuff from a database with a bunch of errors?"Tommy (03:26):Yep.Taylor (03:26):That's terrible. Yeah. If you want good data quality, you have to pay up for it. That's why Bloomberg Terminal is what 20, 25K a month. And if you're just the hobbyist or just trying stuff out, it's just not feasible to pay that much.Anatoly (03:41):Yeah. This is to me I think part of the beauty of the space right now, is that you can build up a lot of what finance is with just a bunch of hobbyist. It's like Linux. Linux in the '90s, you're competing with Microsoft, billions of dollars of engineers buildings stuff, but it's just a bunch of people over the weekend can compete. It's crazy.Tommy (04:03):Yeah. It's wild.Taylor (04:04):I think that's one of the best parts, all that coordination.Anatoly (04:07):So what are the challenges? You guys are one of the earliest I would say teams working on Solana. What have you guys seen, or what were the real painful points? What got better? What still sucks?Tommy (04:18):Oh man. All right. This first Solana season hackathon, the one that we won, we wrote everything in Solana native. I remember pinging [Armani 00:04:29] back in February saying, "Hey, I hear you're working on some framework, can I poke around? And checking out the repository." But it wasn't anywhere near complete or, I didn't dive in enough to use it for the hackathon. So now I rewrote the entire American option protocol in Anchor and it took me very little time to actually write that. So the development life cycle and just ease of getting up to speed, has improved ridiculously.Taylor (05:07):Yeah. And documentation has improved too.Anatoly (05:07):That's awesome. What is Anchor doing for you guys that Native, Rust isn't?Taylor (05:13):It's helped simplify our integration tests. So that's one thing that we try to do when we first started was, we wrote our own integration testing framework in Rust. I guess I wouldn't even call it a framework, it was pretty rough. But Anchor takes care of that. You're just writing your test in JavaScript, it's pretty easy to get up and running. And then also handling a lot of different edge cases that you wouldn't have to think about, checking account addresses and other things just to bring safety in. And it removes a lot of those headaches that, if you're just getting started and trying to hack something together, you're not really going to be thinking about.Tommy (05:48):Yeah. I think the account, de-serializing accounts, token accounts and things like that. You just have your accounts structure, passing that into the context and it de-serializes all that. The amount of little issues we had just because oh, we mis-ordered one thing in the array when we were refactoring, the accounts array, and it's like, "What the hell is going on?" And then you're trying to debug and add messages and stuff, because you're just like, "Oh man. And what is..." And then it all turns out to be a typo or you fat fingered moving one line up or, and it was... So the account structure and dealing with that is just incredibly easy. You don't have to de-serialize anything yourself.Well, anything that has a token, SPL token program or even some of the DEX infrastructure. And it makes cross program invocations a lot easier. I've been working with some teams for this hackathon, and wrote a bunch of cross program invocation examples for these teams to get up and running with PsyOptions pretty quickly. And it was just seamless for them to use our data structures and serialize it, de-serialize, because as long as we're all using the same framework, it works.Anatoly (06:56):Yeah. This was is my decision, so you can blame me, but I really didn't want to build a shitty framework. And until people started building on Solana, it was really hard to know, what do they need? I think it would've been worse if we built a bunch of code that nobody could build with, because it would've been incomplete. I'm going to say, it takes a lot of discipline to do that, versus laziness.Tommy (07:22):It makes sense to offload it on to the actual DAP developers. It's a different beast when you're programming the underlying system versus the actual just Solana runtime program. So it makes a lot of sense how Anchor came out and who really is leading it.Anatoly (07:40):Can you guys tell me what worked really well? Or what features or anything for any other Devs that when they're coming into building on Solana, what stuff actually feels like a superpower?Taylor (07:52):Well, one thing that's improved a ton is the SPL token program and how you manage the token accounts and whatnot. That's definitely something that a lot of the new developers on Solana don't have to deal with. But back then we were building into our UI the ability to have multiple accounts for the same SPL token and it was super frustrating and whatnot. So using those associated token accounts and other kind of, I guess you could call them rapper programs or things like that, that just improve the UX significantly. Understanding those and why they're there is pretty important when someone's getting started.Tommy (08:30):I think taking it a step further too, how does the associated token program work? And what's really under the hood is the program derived address. I put together some documentation for people starting to onboard to PsyOptions or related protocols. And I'm like, you need to read up all these Twitter threads, these documentations on PDAs, because there's just so many things you can do with a PDA that's very unique. You can get a mapping just to accounts, you can create a unique constraint. So for PsyOptions, there should never be... Right now, there's no reason to have more than one of the same option and the fungibility of those options are based on the expiration date, the strike price, the asset pair. And so we just have a PDA that is seated with those parameters and it creates this unique constraint.Anatoly (09:24):Oh, that's cool. So you encode the constraints as, basically hash it into the address.Tommy (09:30):Exactly.Taylor (09:30):Exactly.Anatoly (09:31):And the taker then has to satisfy those constraints to be able to take that trade.Tommy (09:36):No, not on the trade level, just on the general structure for creating the option. It's like, okay, if you want to spin up a BTC 70,000, USDC strike for the October 29th expiration, just that structure that creates that... because that's structure is the core structure of PsyOptions, the Psy American program. And that's what then controls the option TokenMint and writer TokenMint and how you dull out those option tokens. And so it's just there can never be more than one of those specific to those constraints. So it's separated from the trading concerns.Anatoly (10:14):Got it.Taylor (10:15):Yeah. I think you thinking of your stateless escrow. I thought that was a pretty cool proof of concept.Anatoly (10:21):Yeah. I wasn't sure that you guys already built... I think this idea has been around in crypto for a while, so I wouldn't be surprised if you guys use it too. But I like that idea that, because you don't want to generate infinite number of these markets, if everybody enters the same data, then it's going to spit out the same BTC month increment whatever, like May 2021 option or whatever you want.Tommy (10:47):Yeah. And we've seen it too. It's really useful to have these deterministic ways to look up an account address. So it's like, "Look, I can just check if this option market already exists by using these parameters, the PsyOptions market exists." And we also ran into some issues that we had to hack together, on the client side, because Serum doesn't have these kinds of constraints. And an adversary could come in and spin up multiple Serum markets for the same asset pair. And then when you're pulling that data from the chain on the client, it's like, "Well, which one is your UI using? Which one are these automated traders using? All that kind of stuff. How do you sync them up?"And so that was a pain point, and we had to whip together a package. But now with Serum's permission markets and some other stuff, we can now use PDAs to say, "This is deterministically how the UI is going to determine the market. Here's how everyone else should do it. These are the seeds." And then it keeps everyone in line in a more decentralized way, rather than having to have some NPM package with metadata and it's painful to maintain.Anatoly (11:54):Got it. That's cool. What actually runs the market? Is it a Serum Q, a Serum V2 or V3 Q?Tommy (12:03):Serum V3 right now, for the Americans. Yeah.Anatoly (12:05):Awesome. Man, that's super cool. How was that integration? Is that blood, sweat and tears still, or are the tooling itself around Serum getting better?Taylor (12:15):It's getting better.Tommy (12:16):Blood, sweat and tears.Taylor (12:17):Yeah, but it was definitely blood, sweat and tears. I think that's what took us the longest part in the original hackathon that we won, was doing the Serum integration. And we weren't even doing any cross program invocations to Serum at that point, it was literally just client site integration. And that was really difficult. No documentation, got to read through the source code. I think we even found some bugs in their type script package and had to patch it ourselves. So yeah, definitely blood, sweat, and tears there.Tommy (12:48):There's still room for improvement. I'm like drop in list every time as hackathon participants start asking, or users are complaining about settling funds. I'm just at a constant stream of, "Hey, we should document this and add a flow chart for that." Because all the customer surface is offloaded to the people using the Serum stuff, so we get that inflow of feedback from users and other developers building on top.Anatoly (13:12):Yeah. People don't realize how strapped every team is.Tommy (13:16):I agree.Anatoly (13:17):It's literally like three, four engineers at best to, no customer service, no nothing, just pure software, open source software. It's not like when you look at a market cap of something, you think there's a equivalent to market cap S&P 500 company with 30,000 engineers just all cranking away. Thank God it's not, honestly.Tommy (13:41):Yeah.Taylor (13:42):Yeah. It's got its ups and downs. At least you can move fast, it's not a bureaucratic process. But at the same time, customer support definitely dwindles and I think 70% of people are probably testing in production. So the end users are just going to have to deal with that and understand that's just the way things are done in crypto right now.Anatoly (14:03):I guess, how close are you guys to launch and what are the next blockers?Tommy (14:07):So we actually are on Mainnet trading with BTC and ETH markets right now. We have been live since the end of August, just with BTC and ETH for the September strike. Then we upgraded to a V2 of our American protocol with Serum permission markets, so we can eventually close those markets. And so that gives us the ability to open a bunch more. And so we're live with those, we're working with a couple other partners to get some SOL markets up pretty soon. So we'll probably announce that here.Anatoly (14:40):Awesome. What have you guys seen in terms of adoption, and how are people using it and has anyone surprised you with what they're doing?Tommy (14:49):It's tough right now from the retail side using our user interface. I think what the biggest thing that I'm excited... There's been a lot of great feedback. Options are not an easy instrument to use, managing your own positions is tough. And so we've gotten a lot of great feedback from the community and it's shaping what some of these projects that are work thing on during this hackathon. I think that's what's most interesting and surprising is these teams that are building on top and they're not user interfaces. These are protocols that are going to be managing certain strategies and rolling positions for users, and so you can have this more passive product. It's like a ribbon finance to the basic ones, where it's just selling covered calls and secured puts or things that.But there's a lot of plans, I don't want to leak their Alpha. But a lot of plans for additional products where it's more just, set it and forget it. And it has certain properties detailed out to hedge for various things, give you certain direction on volatility. And it'll make these... all these products, some more user friendly for retail, but also big institutions that are looking to hedge existing exposure.Anatoly (16:00):That sounds like you guys are building more of info level for options.Tommy (16:04):Yep.Anatoly (16:05):That's awesome.Taylor (16:06):Yeah. We chalk up the V1 American that we built as just a primitive, and as decentralize as possible. It doesn't rely on Oracles, it doesn't need pricing information. So the only dependency is the Solana runtime and SPL token program, I guess now Serum with the permission markets. But the original one had only SPL token as dependency.Tommy (16:29):Yeah. So there's capital inefficiency with the American style, because you can exercise at any time up until the expiration. So we're about to hopefully announce pretty soon, we have a European that we've architected and we're going to break ground on that and we'll crank it out pretty quickly. That will have a little bit more dependencies, but it'll be more capital efficient because it'll be auto exercised and we'll have a margining system built into it. And the American will continue on because we're going to build, I like to call it Carta for DeFi, but just a place where people... We whipped out a vesting contract the other week. And we'll be able to show people their tokens that are vesting, their options that are vesting, the ones that have currently vested and the options all in their portfolio and whether they should exercise them or not. It'd be less like trading based and more of just an interface for managing your portfolio of vesting stuff and options, so.Anatoly (17:33):That's awesome. How many engineers do you guys have?Tommy (17:38):We actually just hired another front-end guy today. So we're two full-time front-ends, and we hired another protocol developer, so we're two full-time protocol developers. Then we have a community guy and a marketing guy, and then couple of part-time and open source contributors.Anatoly (17:52):That's so small, I mean that's awesome. I feel this is the biggest thing in crypto, is how fast small teams can ship really sophisticated products.Tommy (18:04):Yeah. I think, as I've learned, the hardest thing nowadays or right now is, it's not the programming, it's the architecting the system to fit the runtime and developing the instruction set. And once you wrap your head around how that whole system works and you have your instruction set, writing the actual code is not that hard. If you actually take the time to just think and focus, and you have to have the knowledge and experience to understand that, it's pretty easy to start architecting a bunch of stuff and delegating and managing a little bit more.Taylor (18:35):The thing I will say on that though is that, the runtime changes here and there, but the changes aren't that drastic. But when you're using dependencies like Serum, Pyth, whatnot, those change a ton. And so you're seeing a ton of changes on Serum, so one week you might have architected something for Serum B3, sounds great. All of a sudden Serum updates to some new thing and that might change the optimal architecture for it. So you have to be nimble in order to just go with the flow as different protocols update, and as new versions come out and new architectures are viable.Anatoly (19:14):It's weird to think of immutable code still having dependencies. But something with Serum, you're so dependent on liquidity in those markets that if they move to V4, you have to update because you can't point to a empty market.Tommy (19:29):Yeah. We bring a lot the liquidity ourselves. Well, these are brand new markets that we spin up. It's not as much of a pain point, it's more just announcing and coordinating. But it's more of the European protocol and architecture, it depends on a lot of the stuff like... it doesn't depend heavily on the SPL token, contracts aren't represented as SPLs. And so it depends on this new architecture that they just announced, that Bonfida has been working on. So it's just interesting, you have to keep up to speed with what exists in the ecosystem, so you can constantly be like, "Is there an improvement? Can we squeeze something out of this is?"Anatoly (20:03):Is the European option, are you also planning for it to be Oracle free, or no Oracle?Tommy (20:08):No. We'll rely on an Oracle just for the exercise. We're wrapping up the architecture and probably just, we're going to develop this one totally open source from the scratch. I just put up the boiler plate repository and its open source. We're going to open source, or at least make public the architecture, so everyone can read and comment on it while we're just cranking it out in the next week and a half. So there's a Oracle dependency just on one instruction, just to actually lock in the index price, that would be for the expiration. But we don't see it being too risky of a dependency, considering it's not an instruction that has a lot going on so we can do a lot of checks. We could pull two different Oracles and reduce the potential pitfalls there.Anatoly (20:53):Yeah. This is a hard problem too. When an option is exercise it's still going to hit the Serum market to actually exercise the price?Tommy (21:03):No. So on the base layer, the European, it's just going to... essentially the architecture is locking in the price, and then users basically have to settle up the positions and collateral themselves.Anatoly (21:14):Got it.Tommy (21:14):The best way to describe this one is Deribit on chain. It's really just like P&L, not the full underlying.Anatoly (21:22):Okay. So you can actually settle in any collateral. You could have an option on SOL, but settle in wrapped ETH or whatever?Tommy (21:29):Well this one, it's actually going to be... well, it's going to settle in the currency that it's trading. So BTC, it's going to have this siloed market and account that holds all the BTC and manages the entire portfolio, margining for someone's BTC options. And so it has it's own realm of just, this is the BTC world. And everything settles in BTC, everything's traded in BTC and premiums are even in BTC, but then it just uses the USD index price to actually settle up on the strike. And then SOL would have its own world, with its own portfolio margins system. So they're not cross margined between all those at the moment.Anatoly (22:10):Got it. Is cross margining something you guys are also thinking about?Tommy (22:15):Yeah. It's one of those things where we want to just crank this out and ship fast, because it's improved from the existing architecture, for when it comes to a trading perspective. And then we'll discuss a more improved cross margining system.Anatoly (22:27):Do you think that there's a gap still in this idea that I think, what's popular on DeFi Ethereum is liquidity mining, and I just want to put my tokens and get yield? And is there a gap between that and options trading and central limit order books?Taylor (22:46):I think there's a knowledge gap. The closer you are to dealing with the primitives, the more knowledge you need to have, the more hands on you have to be in managing your positions and whatnot. So I think that reduces the addressable market or the end users that are willing to participate. And so that's why you have people building programs and tooling on up to manage the position, so it can be more passive. Because I think that's one of the biggest things that drove a ton of people to DeFi, is the passive yield, all the token incentive programs and whatnot. So I do think that there's a bit of a gap, but it's slowly being closed. And the more passive it can be, the more non crypto people or even crypto native people, but the less financially sophisticated you could say will come in and utilize DeFi.Anatoly (23:39):So you guys imagine that... or there's probably somebody already building this, where I have my token, I'm an LP, which is under the actual thing behind that position is a covered call or some other fancy strategy, iron condors or whatever, right?Tommy (23:58):Yeah. So there's a couple teams from the hackathon building that right now, actually.Anatoly (24:03):That's awesome.Tommy (24:04):That's what I'm really excited about. Because that's what we've seen is, there's decent order flow, I haven't looked at the volumes because we're just very focused on product. We know what the low hanging fruit is, so we're not focusing on the vanity metrics at the moment and not really talking about the TVL and whatnot. But it'll just increase order flow because these people can just get passive yield from covered call products, or they can hedge certain positions just by depositing tokens. And it's all going to be managing these underlying options and straddles and things like that.Anatoly (24:38):How long does it take to go from, let's say I wanted to build an iron condor or something that as a strategy, can I do that? Do you guys have examples already, reference implementations for things like that?Tommy (24:53):Are you talking as a protocol or as just a user, using the... like a client?Anatoly (24:58):As a, here's my DAP, I'll take tokens from LPs and then automatically generate the position on PsyOptions.Tommy (25:07):The hard part actually isn't to the generating the initial positions, the hard part is handling how they want to roll, if you're trying to do it over time, where they just can keep that open. So the generating the positions is super easy, placing the orders. We have examples, CPI examples in the repository for minting options, exercising, placing an order, opening a Serums open orders account, all that kind of stuff. Just been cranking out examples as people ask for them. And then, it's onto those teams to handle that really tough part of, how should we roll? There's certain concerns in there for manipulation. There's certain concerns for front running, there's certain concerns for eating through the order book and having to build your own TWAP into it and stuff like that, so.Anatoly (25:59):Yeah. Man, you guys are taking on some really tough challenges, that's cool. This is something that I wanted to get good at, trading. Trading options and deep learning into these things, but I got it to work.Taylor (26:15):Yeah. It's a full time job. That's why we try to focus on the primitive and lower layers and try to get that right. So then other teams can focus, if they're much more financially savvy or have of better trading backgrounds, can handle that. It's a full-time job to be a trader, to come up with those models, to build those positions and roll them, it takes a long time. And you constantly have to be updating them too.Anatoly (26:44):How long did you guys trade options before?Taylor (26:47):Not much. We're just retail traders. I interned at an investment bank once a while back, but to the extent of my full-time finance career, that was about it. And then we would trade options here and there, but nothing serious. And then, when we wanted to automate that option trading strategy, that would've been probably the first automated system we would've built. I don't think we built an automated option trading strategy before that.Tommy (27:15):Yeah. I would say we relate best with the retail, speculative, YOLO option users, rather than very sophisticated options traders. But it's been nice building this and winning that hackathon and getting some attention, because then those people show up. And we have some really smart TradFi people who have been around crypto, some really smart TradFi people who have never been around crypto, contributing to the thought leadership of where we should go, what's needed to get to certain structured products and things like that. And that's been super helpful because we've been early in Solana and have the engineering capabilities and knowledge to work with them of a translating their vision into a Solana architecture. And so we've just been helping as many teams as possible that have that background and can bring that knowledge. And then, that's why we're just like, "Look, we'll help you as much as we can because you're going to help us answer some of these questions that we don't know." So it's been good to fill out the team and the surrounding circles with that.Anatoly (28:23):Do you think that DeFi is something that... I always think of it as growing faster than TradFi versus replacing it. Do you think these products are good enough to compete with traditional finance, or are we just going to see more stuff being built on open finance because it's easier? I don't have to go talk to a CME to launch an option for my in-game bullets for my shooter game or something like that.Tommy (28:52):I think it will be just the fact that it's open and anyone can do it. Looking at the architecture here and designing an ideal architecture for the most capital efficiency system, it's just not really... You could do it in CeFi so much easier than you can do it in DeFi. I don't even know if it's truly possible. We're still just on the back burner trying to figure out how you could portfolio margin everything. I think a lot of teams that we've talked to are all thinking about that in the back burners. It's like, how do we margin against everything? So I think it's definitely moving faster. I think they will rival CeFi, a lot of these products, but I think they're still going to be both working hand-in-hand.Taylor (29:42):Yeah. I think both have their ups and downs. The speed that DeFi innovates because of the open source nature and things can be represented and it's all digitally native, it just makes the pace of innovation faster, also makes what you can build much faster. Like CeFi you're beholden to, not that you're not beholden to regulation in DeFi, but CeFi there's a lot more red tape. You got to jump through hoops in order to be able to launch a market or... You can't just launch your own equities exchange, it's takes tons of money and resources and whatnot. So it stifles innovation in that respect. So I think even if DeFi can't become as capital efficient as CeFi, you're still going to have more innovative products, more flexibility in what you can do with your assets, that at the end of the day, you might not need that capital efficient, high, super fast, low latency systems to do what you want to do with your assets. So I think there's a place for both. And I think DeFi is just going to continue to innovate and outpace growth in terms of TradFi.Anatoly (31:00):Well, our goal is to get that latency to be as low as physics allow, and then we're competitive.Tommy (31:10):That's why we're here.Taylor (31:10):Let's do it, man.Anatoly (31:11):Won't rest until we're building neutrino emitter detector. I just think with gaming especially, the first massive multiplayer games instantly within six months had a market for the digital items there. As soon as you get something like Star Atlas or equivalent, like World of Warcraft that's decentralized with all these assets on chain, I think the idea of options as a service, people are just going to, "Well, I got whatever... I got more gold that people want to use because this game is hot right now." People are going to definitely spin up those markets, it's just going to happen.Tommy (31:48):100%. We've been talking about game... we're gamers ourselves, and I haven't played a game since I really dove into Solana development 11, 12 months ago. But I'm hoping to get back to it once Star Atlas and Aurory and all those other... Kaiju cards, everyone starts actually launching the game play, I'll jump back to gaming. But we've been thinking about it a lot and what could be done with this American primitive, and that got us into talking to other teams and other games, just to see what's out there. And then I actually got connected with Metaplex and built out a contract that they just announced that's focused on gaming. And it all stemmed from trying to think about, these games, everyone's so early and not really thinking about how these game assets are going to plug and play into DeFi protocols and things like that. And there's still just so much work and research that needs to be done, and some infrastructure needs to be built for it all to work perfectly together.Taylor (32:42):Yeah. I think the interoperability for gaming is still... there's still going to be some rough edges there, because it's harder to build standards across games. But I think you'll have a few games come out and maybe they'll have transferability between games and whatnot, but it's going to take some time and some trial and error before we get to this on chain metaverse where you can transfer assets between different game worlds and whatnot. But I do think that is going to be one of the ultimate killer applications on blockchain.Anatoly (33:19):What are you guys excited about out of this hackathon?Tommy (33:22):Oh, for me, it's really just the stuff we've mentioned with the structured products, passive yield products, all that kind of stuff, being built on top of PysOptions. I'm very heads down on product and everything at the moment. So aside from the people that are ping me, asking me for help, I don't really know what else is being built.Anatoly (33:42):Yeah, likewise. I see NFTs being launched and then I'm deep in the trenches and optimizations. I guess that's good. It means that there's more stuff to do than you have time, so you started actually going heads down and working.Tommy (34:00):But there's a lot. The roadmap with just these teams alone, is ridiculous. We have so many products that we want to whip out on top, and hoping to launch the first few in the next week or two. And then the framework's there, it'll be a little bit easier.Taylor (34:14):Well, it's just fun to see people building on software that you've built. I'm sure you and the rest of the Solana team get excited as new projects come out and new people innovate. And I think that's one of the more fun things to do, is just sit and watch what people come up with because you can't come up with every idea yourself, so might as well open source stuff and have community run with it.Anatoly (34:33):For sure. What should we be looking out for? Do you guys have any announcements you want to leak?Tommy (34:40):Oh man. SOL options coming soon. Passive yield products that will make it extremely easy for people to get volatility exposure or generate yield. And this is yield that's not going to go away. A lot of these pools are based on rewards, and API is based on rewards and things that will dry up and aren't sustainable. But the volatility is a little bit more sustainable in a sense. Sure volatility will decrease over time, but.Anatoly (35:09):So these are like covered call strategies, basically?Tommy (35:12):The first few are the most simple covered call and secured put strategies. But then there's going to be a few other vaults coming out once these are launched, then it'll be focus on a few other vaults that have different strategies. Eventually, we started talking to some other teams like Symmetry, because we want to get a good crypto index, because then if we get liquid index options, we can create a nice volatility index for certain baskets. So that's all on the horizon. And so, you need that rolling and rebalancing and infrastructure, and that's what we've been working on the past few weeks, or other teams have been working on. And then it's formulas for just managing array of positions.Anatoly (35:57):What is your development process like? How do you guys go to build test and ship?Taylor (36:03):In terms of roadmap and how we determine what to work on, it's pretty ad hoc, things change up weekly, biweekly. But we try to run in two week sprints, at least just pick like, "Okay, what... base on user feedback, check GitHub for issues." Obviously anything that's blocking usage is number one priority. And then it's, "All right. What do we want to see built? What do our partner teams need, and how can we get them going?" I don't know Tommy, you have anything to add to that?Tommy (36:35):Yeah. Protocol development too. I'd sit and focus and start drafting up a full architecture doc with the instruction sets and potential functions that are needed, black box some stuff, just to make it a little bit easier and then put a to-do to dive in later. And then you have this whole instruction set and a general outline and framework, and you know it fits into the Solana runtime because you've made sure that the constraints are handled. And then I'll dive into running a test driven development process with Anchor, just doing full integration test. You end up writing a lot more test code, but I just find that the confidence level is so much higher. You can refactor and upgrade versions and you're just so of confident in your code when you have all those tests, so. And then, it cuts down the time from DevNet testing, where everyone just puts up a contract and then just relies on interacting it to test it. Especially when you're building a primitive, you want to have all those cases handled.Anatoly (37:36):In your use case specifically with options, what bug are the most worrisome? Is it overflow or actual logic and economic?Tommy (37:45):Probably logic and economics. The American protocol, overflow is not an issue, not really. We do all the check map of course, but it's not an issue. Maybe if we get some weird [Altcoins 00:37:58] eventually trading, then we'll have some weird issues. But I'd really just say logic, economic attacks, things like that, when we get into the capital efficient Europeans that has the margining system built into the base layer, and liquidation built in the base layer. And just always thinking about account management. You have that limitation of number of accounts you can pass in, and how to architect around that.Anatoly (38:19):So if Solana could change one thing, what would it be? Or anything, and things-Taylor (38:24):Two things.Anatoly (38:29):... two things. Finite numberTaylor (38:29):Fixed account length. If we could make it-Tommy (38:32):Oh, sure yeah.Taylor (38:33):... dynamic sized, I think that would be great.Anatoly (38:36):The length of the data.Taylor (38:37):Yeah.Anatoly (38:37):Okay.Taylor (38:38):The account data.Anatoly (38:39):That's actually... I don't know if you guys saw, but believe-re growing reallocation from the program itself or the account that it owns, I think it might be live already in 1.8.Tommy (38:49):Yeah. I saw ...Taylor (38:51):I think I saw the PR for that.Anatoly (38:52):Okay.Taylor (38:53):But that's one thing that... Sorry, but when people jump over from ETH to Solana, that's probably the biggest gotcha, that we're like, "Oh crap. I can't readjust or create a larger array, more mapping data, whatever." So that's one thing. And then also the number of accounts you can pass to an instruction [crosstalk 00:39:14].Anatoly (39:13):In a transaction. Yeah.Taylor (39:15):... open up more. Yeah.Tommy (39:17):And I think 1.8 handles a lot of these headaches, but you still, when you're trying to think, for the long term, just the limitations in general. I'm assuming they're always going to be there, the number of accounts you can pass in, can't be-Anatoly (39:32):109, the goal is to double the transaction size basically. So the number of bytes that a transaction can maximum size. That means you can double the user data or encode more, put more accounts in there. So there's always a limit because of the real time nature of the system. You're not submitting an arbitrary large transaction that then the block producer decides, "Okay, I'm going to pick this one." You're really like, "How do I write to the block right now?" And making sure that doesn't slow everything down, is a challenge. But really cool, man, you guys are shipping like crazy. It's awesome. It blows my mind that you guys were hackathon team that is now... there's teams in the hackathon building on top of PsyOptions.Tommy (40:23):I love it.Anatoly (40:24):Yeah.Tommy (40:24):I've been doing office hours, every Tuesday and Thursday, just letting people come in and ask questions because it's just nice to see people building on top. And we're going to do whatever we can to help them out and keep them there.Anatoly (40:36):That's super cool. Man, really good to catch up with you. Thank you for coming on the podcast. Is there anything you want to add for the listeners in the final bit?Tommy (40:46):Yeah. I would say, check out PsyOptions to trade your BTC and ETH right now, SOL coming soon. And then we'll be announcing an under collateralized European protocol pretty shortly, going to try and crank that out as quickly as possible.Taylor (41:00):Yeah. And get in touch. There's no shortage of projects that we can dream of and I'm sure others are too, but happy to help any team out that we can.Tommy (41:08):Yeah. And if you're a protocol too, looking to do option liquidity mining with American PsyOptions, reward contributors with options, or use the PsyOptions vesting contract, we're trying to get that. The vesting contract's a unique one, where you can delay your vest. The recipient has the option to delay their vest if the issuer grants it. So that way they can keep pumping the vesting and the potential taxable event. Not an accountant, so don't take that tax advice. Not financial advice.Anatoly (41:39):Not accounting advice, not financial advice. That's awesome.Tommy (41:42):Yeah.Taylor (41:42):No advice.Anatoly (41:44):That's super cool. Well, thank you guys.Tommy (41:46):Thank you.Taylor (41:47):Thanks for having us

How are we thinking about crypto as we enter Q4? What are we closely watching? Why is ETH better than BTC and SOL better than ETH and L1s even better? Where are some hidden opportunities? What are the narratives that are developing and how to position yourself going into 2022? Let's explore. Follow the smart money - which is continuing to accumulate BTC, ETH and currencies with either 1. network effects or 2. backed by large firms Strong fund blessing: “Relatively” better Layer 1's are backed by strong funds to build massive ecosystems (& price rises): 3AC w/ AVAX, Do Kwon + Novo w/ Terra Luna, Jump Cap with Pyth & Luna, FTX / Almeda with Solana Rise of SE Asia - more founders, higher awareness and most importantly desperateness to win at any cost driven largely by P2E games like Axie and free airdrops like 1inch, UNI, DyDx. This is some life changing money - for FREE ETH the base currency: Larger network effects, more devs than any chain, as decentraslied as it can be, coming supply shock, NFT & gaming craze, institutions going directly into ETH bypassing BTC Layer 2 Alts - on ETH & SOL have been outperforming many major Layer 1's. Q4 should be no different. Algorithma Capital Website Blog --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/hashtalk/message

If you would like to stay in the loop, subscribe to our Newsletter  To read an edited transcript To watch it as a video The following are the summaries of questions Joanne Z. Tan asked Tim Draper during this one-hour interview on Sept. 23, 2021: Crypto and Bitcoin fluctuated wildly in the last 4 months after our first interview. ... Other than China's cracking down on Bitcoin and crypto, do you see any SYSTEMIC flaws in the crypto's trading mechanism that have caused the wild fluctuation? Examples: Yesterday's 90% drop of Bitcoin on Pyth was caused by computer botching basic math, the day before, the “blackout” at Solana, and the use of robot traders in high frequency crypto trading… What are your thoughts about these systemic flaws, or phenomena, or “growing pain”? It seems that Bitcoin holders are primarily in two large camps: first, highly educated, intelligent and financially secure; second, herd mentality blind followers, some of whom are gamblers. Is that another contributing factor for its extreme volatility since there are far more blind followers than seasoned investors? If so, what can be done about it? Is the lack of circulation and liquidity another reason for its volatility? What caused the malfunction of El Salvador's launch of Bitcoin? Ray Dalio recently said that the value of Bitcoin is “imbued” rather than “intrinsic”. Gold's value is “intrinsic” according to him; the “imbued” value of Bitcoin, he cited, was at least based on the impressive fact that it has never been hacked. He didn't mention that Bitcoin has a limited edition capped at 21 million coins. What do you think of his characterization? Has the definition of “money” changed in any way with the birth and growth of Bitcoin? Does Bitcoin-ownership vs gold-ownership give Bitcoin owners more responsibility, participation, and other new elements of ownership? Ayn Rand brand of libertarian capitalism, in my opinion, was based on the dated view that the world's resources are almost limitless, an idealized understanding of a limitless potential of capitalism. Now, living with global warming, and the realization that first, resources are limited, and second, the window of opportunities is rapidly closing; actions, NOW, by NATIONAL governments are truly needed (in addition to private actions), to reverse climate change. My question is: Could Bitcoin undermine national governments' control of central banking and economic policies, particularly related to governmental spending on sustainable industries? Is there another way to link the usage of crypto directly with sustainability industries? In China a couple of months ago, a great flood happened in a large city, there was no power, no internet. People who were so used to digital payment found themselves needing paper cash for everything. What do you think of its implication to Bitcoin's use and circulation when there is no power? Assuming that you do NOT prefer to live in a country without governments and borders, what is the “right place” for bitcoin to fit in? Co-exist with fiat? If the value of Bitcoin is priced and based on the value of fiat, what makes Bitcoin immune to inflation? You said in the last interview with me that China's government-issued digital wallet is a threat to Bitcoin IF their digital wallet is accepted outside China, please first explain, and then suggest what can be done about it. Do you think technology has borders? Is crypto a threat to the US government's national security? Regulatory scrutiny is being ratcheted up by an SEC Commission chair who says he believes it's better to be proactive on digital currencies than to react following a crisis. Michael Hsu, the acting chief of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, argued Tuesday that cryptocurrencies and decentralized finance may be evolving into threats to the financial system in much the same way certain derivatives brought near collapse in 2008. 3 questions: Does that mean that Bitcoin and other cryptos are more likely to be treated by the government as a security rather than currency? In the last interview, you said that Bitcoin is more like a currency, have you changed your mind? Do you reserve tax payment for all your Bitcoin capital gain, since 2014, if and when you sell some portion of it, or just use some of it for purchasing goods and services? Taxes and regulations ... do you think being taxed and regulated will make Bitcoin lose some of its “incorruptibility”, “transferability”, and “uninflatability”? What do you foresee as the worst possible scenario to Bitcoin, other than a solar flare that wipes out all digital records and civilization based on electric power on Earth? What do you foresee as the best possible outcome of Bitcoin? How many decades or years will it take us to get there? What do you think about the corporate monopolies such as Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon...becoming more powerful than the government in certain aspects? I ask everyone in my interview this question: What does the “Tim Draper Brand” stand for?  

There's obviously a lot of interest in crypto and DeFi these days. And while it's growing rapidly, it's still not cutting much into traditional finance business lines. For the most part, trading on blockchains is slow and costly. But some projects don't accept the premise that blockchains have to be slow and inefficient. Solana is an Ethereum competitor whose native token has been soaring. And unlike Ethereum, its transactions are cheap and ultrafast. So what tradeoffs does it make? And what projects are being built on top of it? On this episode, we speak with Solana founder Anatoly Yakovenko and Kanav Kariya of Jump Trading, who is involved with an oracle project called Pyth. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

00:00 INTRO 02:57 Entrevista a VORWENN 31:23 Anuncios CHEATS en Youtube 34:23 Rising series, ¿Aska calvo? 41:10 Debate sobre agentes y meta 53:10 ¿PYTH fuera de G2? 01:09:00 HERETICS pierde puntos VCT ______ VERSUS GAMERS: https://www.vsgamers.es/ ______ Anfitriones: Hitboxking - https://twitter.com/HITBOXKING Starwraith - https://twitter.com/IamStarWraith Nara - http://www.twitter.com/narahnl Colaboradores: Lembo - https://twitter.com/Lembo006 Lucas Rojo - https://twitter.com/LRojo__ Invitados: Vorwenn: https://twitter.com/Vorwenn Aska: https://twitter.com/Askafps _______ Redes: Discord - https://discord.gg/7xqyN4D Twitch - http://www.twitch.tv/esportmaniacos Twitter - http://www.twitter.com/univalorant Web - http://www.universovalorant.com ______ #Valorant #UniversoValorant #esports #VCT #RISINGSERIES #G2VALORANT #VALORANTCHEATS

Detalles internos de rendimiento de Python y exabruptos sobre asyncio https://podcast.jcea.es/python/14 Participantes: Jesús Cea, email: jcea@jcea.es, twitter: @jcea, https://blog.jcea.es/, https://www.jcea.es/. Conectando desde Madrid. Eduardo Castro, email: info@ecdesign.es. Conectando desde A Guarda. Javier, conectando desde Madrid. Víctor Ramírez, twitter: @virako, programador python y amante de vim, conectando desde Huelva. Juan Carlos, conectando desde Bilbao. Audio editado por Pablo Gómez, twitter: @julebek. La música de la entrada y la salida es "Lightning Bugs", de Jason Shaw. Publicada en https://audionautix.com/ con licencia - Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. [01:32] Nuevas versiones: Python 3.10a4 y Numpy. [01:57] Don’t Use Recursion In Python Any More,Python Closure — A Pythonic technique you must know Don’t Use Recursion In Python Any More,Python Closure — A Pythonic technique you must know: https://towardsdatascience.com/dont-use-recursion-in-python-any-more-918aad95094c. Hilo en la lista de correo de Python Madrid: https://lists.es.python.org/pipermail/madrid/2021-January/004838.html. Closure: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clausura_(inform%C3%A1tica). Mixin: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixin. [10:02] ¿Qué es ser "Pythónico"? Twisted daña el cerebro: https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/. unittest: https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html. Black: https://pypi.org/project/black/. from __future__ import braces. [14:52] Python Ideas: https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/. [16:52] ¿Comillas simples o comillas dobles? ' o ". Diferencias semánticas con otros lenguajes como C. [23:07] Tamaño de columnas: ¿80?, ¿120?, ¿132? [31:02] Primar la legibilidad, no el rendimiento. Cuando tienes if ... else ..., ¿Qué caso pones primero?, ¿el corto o el largo? ¿Primero la condición normal? Microoptimizaciones que complican la legibilidad sin ganancia de rendimiento que importe en realidad. [41:57] En las variables locales, la longitud del nombre de una variable no impacta en el rendimiento. [43:02] Curiosear el "bytecode" https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bytecode que genera Python. Dispositivo de Duff: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispositivo_de_Duff. El "bytecode" https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bytecode que genera Python no está nada optimizado. Es mejorable. [46:22] Bytecode generado para a + a: >>> dis.dis(lambda a: a + a) 1 0 LOAD_FAST 0 (a) 2 LOAD_FAST 0 (a) 4 BINARY_ADD 6 RETURN_VALUE ¡Guardas! Sí se hacen algunas optimizaciones simples: >>> dis.dis(lambda : 5 + 3) 1 0 LOAD_CONST 1 (8) 2 RETURN_VALUE [50:12] Python deja su pila de evaluación vacía al terminar de calcular una expresión. Máquina virtual de registros en vez de máquina virtual orientada a pila. El compilador debe ser más sofisticado, pero puede reutilizar valores. Muchas operaciones redundantes: >>> import dis >>> def suma(valores): ... s=0 ... for i in valores: ... s+=i ... return s ... >>> dis.dis(suma) 2 0 LOAD_CONST 1 (0) 2 STORE_FAST 1 (s) 3 4 LOAD_FAST 0 (valores) 6 GET_ITER >> 8 FOR_ITER 12 (to 22) 10 STORE_FAST 2 (i) 4 12 LOAD_FAST 1 (s) 14 LOAD_FAST 2 (i) 16 INPLACE_ADD 18 STORE_FAST 1 (s) 20 JUMP_ABSOLUTE 8 5 >> 22 LOAD_FAST 1 (s) 24 RETURN_VALUE ¿Qué ocurre a la hora de depurar o para gestionar excepciones? [56:32] Que un hilo modifique variables de otro hilo. ¡Guardas! NOTA DESDE EL FUTURO: Python 3.9.5: https://docs.python.org/release/3.9.5/whatsnew/changelog.html. Traceback objects allow accessing frame objects without triggering audit hooks: https://bugs.python.org/issue42800. [58:37] Pensábais que las interioridades del intérprete de Python son aburridas, pero no... La complejidad debe estar en tu programa, no en el lenguaje o el intérprete. Compiladores optimizadores. Python se está quedando atrás. Hacer caché al buscar atributos: Issue1616125: Cached globals+builtins lookup optimization: https://bugs.python.org/issue1616125. issue43452: Microoptimize PyType_Lookup for cache hits https://bugs.python.org/issue43452. Detectar cambios en un diccionario, incluyendo diccionarios internos como locals o __builtins__: PEP 509 Add a private version to dict: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0509/. [01:06:52] Huevos de pascua en Python: from __future__ import braces. import antigravity. import this. import __hello__. [01:08:27] Usar pass o ... (ellipsis). Ellipsis: https://docs.python.org/3/library/constants.html#Ellipsis y https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html?highlight=ellipsis#the-ellipsis-object. [01:09:22] El PEP 509 no es para hacer diccionarios inmutables. Es algo interno para el API de C. No está accesible desde Python. Cambios pequeños pueden abrir posibilidades interesantes. ¡Guardas!. [01:13:07] Curiosidades encontradas esta semana: traceback.clear_frames(tb): https://docs.python.org/3/library/traceback.html#traceback.clear_frames. inspect: https://docs.python.org/3/library/inspect.html. Manipular frame.back. Que una función sepa si se le está llamando de una forma síncrona o asíncrona. [01:17:02] Los problemas filosóficos que tiene Jesús Cea con la programación asíncrona tal y como está implementada en Python. Una biblioteca debe decidir si es síncrona o asíncrona y "contamina" todo tu código. Hacer corrutinas "de verdad": https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrutina. Persistencia y programación asíncrona. Concepto de "awaitable": https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#awaitables. future.result(): https://docs.python.org/3/library/concurrent.futures.html#concurrent.futures.Future.result. [01:32:17] Es difícil plantear temas tan esotéricos sin una preparación formal de la charla o sin avisar con tiempo para que la gente se lo pueda ver con calma antes. [01:33:32] Problemas con el control de carga de asyncio https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio.html. Vuelve a tratarse el tema de si la biblioteca estándar debe crecer o adelgazar. Según Jesús Cea, asyncio https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio.html es la peor opción. Alternativas a asyncio: Curio: https://curio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/. Trio: https://trio.readthedocs.io/en/stable/. Monkey patching: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_patch. La dificultad de luchar con una biblioteca que está incluída en la biblioteca estándar. [01:42:32] La programación asíncrona es útil para muchas más cosas además de para gestionar peticiones de la red. Por ejemplo, operaciones de ficheros locales. Aprovechar tanto que el disco sea lento como para lanzar operaciones concurrentes a discos duros. [01:44:12] Mejor usar concurrent.futures https://docs.python.org/3/library/concurrent.futures.html que threading https://docs.python.org/3/library/threading.html directamente. Transportar excepciones entre hilos. Control de carga y paralelismo. [01:45:42] Referencia al bug solucionado en la tertulia anterior: Issue35930: Raising an exception raised in a "future" instance will create reference cycles https://bugs.python.org/issue35930. Queda por ultimar el detalle de cómo solucionar el problema exactamente y enviar el parche para que se integre oficialmente en Python. Jesús Cea describe las dos opciones que está barajando: weakrefs https://docs.python.org/3/library/weakref.html o try ... finally. [01:50:57] Ya hubo "flames" brutales con Guido cuando se introdujo el operador ternario en Python. [01:55:02] Despedida. [01:55:50] Final.

En este programa hablamos sobre la salida de Meddo de FPX así como todos los rumores que están viendo la luz estos días en torno a posibles cambios en G2 ESPORTS, NIP y otros equipos. Entre ellos se recoge la posible salida de Pyth y la más probable de Davidp del conjunto capitaneado por Mixwell. También se trata con supuestas salidas de Sayf y luckeRRR del roster de NIP. Terminamos hablando con Linepro sobre su nuevo proyecto en Valorant. MARCAS DE TIEMPO: 0:00 INTRO y UV AWARDS 6:22 ¿Nuevo agente? y variedad 18:30 ¿Cambios en G2? y rumores 01:07:40 Meddo fuera de FPX 01:23:55 Salidas en NIP 01:27:36 Vitality y otros rumores 01:36:00 Linepro y su proyecto 01:59:30 LVP y final ___________________ Anfitriones: Hitboxking - https://twitter.com/HITBOXKING Starwraith - https://twitter.com/IamStarWraith Nara - http://www.twitter.com/narahnl Colaboradores: Lembo - https://twitter.com/Lembo006 Lucas Rojo - https://twitter.com/LRojo__ Invitados: Linepro - https://twitter.com/ivo_kk ___________________ Redes: Discord - https://discord.gg/7xqyN4D Twitch - http://www.twitch.tv/esportmaniacos Twitter - http://www.twitter.com/univalorant Web - http://www.universovalorant.com __________________ #Valorant #UniversoValorant #esports #FIRSTSTRIKE #LVPVALORANT #G2VALORANT #DAVIDP

Pyth has led G2's charge to the top of Valorant, but why did the Swede make the switch from CSGO? We delved into his Counter-Strike switch and got his views on the EU vs. NA debate