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Jessica Swank, Chief People Officer at Box, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about building an "org brain", preparing managers to lead teams of humans plus agents, avoiding agent sprawl and tech debt, and why every people leader needs to start experimenting with AI personally to stay ahead.---- Downloadable PDF with top takeaways: https://modernpeopleleader.kit.com/episode269Sponsor Links:
We dug into Foursquare's North Stars of vibrancy and velocity, applying design thinking to the people function, and their team-based performance model.---- Downloadable PDF with top takeaways: https://modernpeopleleader.kit.com/episode268Sponsor Links:
MARA's Fred Thiel joins the Mining Pod to discuss the company's AI and HPC plans, bitcoin, and the future of edge computing. Subscribe to the Blockspace newsletter for market-making news as it hits the wire! Welcome back to The Mining Pod! Today, Fred Thiel, CEO and Chairman of MARA (formerly Marathon Digital Holdings), joins us to talk about MARA's strategic pivot toward AI and HPC infrastructure, the critical importance of energy ownership over PPAs, inference at the edge computing, MARA's partnerships with MPL and Exaion in Europe, and why Bitcoin's path to $1M will be harder than most think as the asset matures and institutionalizes. Notes: • $1.4T AI spending planned over next 5 years • MARA owns energy vs paying PPAs for electrons • Many HPC contracts have strict delivery outs • Bitcoin no longer follows 4-year cycle pattern • 10% Bitcoin price change = $200B market move • MARA has ~250 employees currently Timestamps: 00:00 Start 04:05 Q3 look back 13:13 Inference at the edge 20:22 Sovereign cloud 27:13 MARA: hash cost vs hash price 29:33 Valuations not reflecting risk 33:22 MARA: value accretion 34:39 Operational deployment 37:07 Asset light vs hosting 41:47 Exaion deal 46:15 MPLX deal (natural gas ) 50:22 CapEx costs 50:53 MPLX deal structure 56:23 CTO & 2PIC 1:01:28 Share dilution 1:12:31 What are you reading?
Subscribe to the Blockspace newsletter for market-making news as it hits the wire! Welcome back to The Mining Pod! Today, Fred Thiel, CEO and Chairman of MARA (formerly Marathon Digital Holdings), joins us to talk about MARA's strategic pivot toward AI and HPC infrastructure, the critical importance of energy ownership over PPAs, inference at the edge computing, MARA's partnerships with MPL and Exaion in Europe, and why Bitcoin's path to $1M will be harder than most think as the asset matures and institutionalizes. Notes: • $1.4T AI spending planned over next 5 years • MARA owns energy vs paying PPAs for electrons • Many HPC contracts have strict delivery outs • Bitcoin no longer follows 4-year cycle pattern • 10% Bitcoin price change = $200B market move • MARA has ~250 employees currently Timestamps: 00:00 Start 04:05 Q3 look back 13:13 Inference at the edge 20:22 Sovereign cloud 27:13 MARA: hash cost vs hash price 29:33 Valuations not reflecting risk 33:22 MARA: value accretion 34:39 Operational deployment 37:07 Asset light vs hosting 41:47 Exaion deal 46:15 MPLX deal (natural gas ) 50:22 CapEx costs 50:53 MPLX deal structure 56:23 CTO & 2PIC 1:01:28 Share dilution 1:12:31 What are you reading?
Shannon Hobbs, Chief People Officer at BNY, joined us to unpack how the bank is scaling its early-career pipeline, flattening org design, and running a culture-first transformation.We discussed BNY's in-house AI hub “Eliza” (99% employee certification, 15k+ agents, 100 digital employees), plus practical advice for CHROs on building AI capability safely and at scale.---- How BNY is betting big on early talent (PDF): https://modernpeopleleader.kit.com/episode267Sponsor Links:
The ASX 200 managed to cling to small gains today, up 26 points to 8828 (0.3%).NAB fell 3.3% after results saw some profit-taking on low growth, WBC down 1.2% as it went ex-dividend. Insurers were better, with QBE up 1.7% and MPL up 0.8%, while other financials remained sloppy and weak.Industrials generally mixed — TLS up 0.6%, TCL up 0.8%, and ALL rising 1.3%, with WES slipping 1.2% again, and JBH falling 3.1%. Travel stocks also fell, WEB down 2.7% and FLT losing altitude, off 1.4%.One bright spot was LNW, up 8.2% on a better-than-expected quarterly. DMP also gained 4.7% as shorts covered, just in case. Tech was slightly firmer as WTC rallied 0.6% and XRO up 0.5%, with the All-Tech Index up %.Resources firmed — BHP up 1.6% despite iron ore falling again, RIO also doing well. Gold miners were better on a bullion price increase, NST up 2.8% and NEM rising 2.8%. Rare earths were still under some pressure, as was the uranium space, while oil and gas firmed, WDS up 1.6%.In corporate news, ZIP fell 4.2% after its AGM reaffirmed guidance — perhaps the market was looking for another upgrade. JHX tumbled again, down 12.7%, as it went into a trading halt and blamed index rebalancing for the earlier sell-off. TAH dropped 3.0% as Aware Super sold down, and AMC rallied 5.0% on first-quarter results.On the economic front, Balance of Payments data was released today, showing the seasonally adjusted balance on goods increased by $2.827bn in September.Asian markets - HK up 1.6% China up 1.3% and Japan bouncing 1.6% 10-year yields squeezed to 4.36%.US Futures, Nasdaq down 19. Dow up 13. Tesla vote tonight.European markets set for a flat opening.Want to invest with Marcus Today? Our MT20 portfolio is designed for investors seeking exposure to our strategy while we do the hard work for you. If you're looking for personal financial advice, our friends at Clime Investment Management can help. Their team of licensed advisers operates across most states, offering tailored financial planning services. Why not sign up for a free trial? Gain access to expert insights, research, and analysis to become a better investor.
The ASX fell another 12 points to 8802, well off lows, as resources were slammed hard. The market finished well off the lows of the day as US futures recovered from heavy early losses. Banks held up again, CBA up 1.3% and the Big Bank Basket up to $297.93 (+0.9 % ). MQG dropped 0.4%, and financials were mixed — ASX up 1.6% and GQG off 1.7% again. Insurers saw small gains, SUN up 0.6% and MPL up 1.2% on an acquisition. Industrials were mixed, TLS rose 1.5% with BXB recovering slightly, WOW and COL rose, and TCL up 0.8%. Tech stocks fell, XRO off 0.9% and WTC continuing to fall off 1.4%. The All-Tech Index was down 1.7%. Healthcare stocks were mixed — CSL fell 0.4% despite a briefing on vaccines this morning, RMD up 0.6%, and PME slipping 1.4%.Resources tumbled, BHP off 0.5% with FMG down 2.5%, though well off the lows. Gold miners saw small losses even as bullion pushed higher. Lithium stocks fell hard, PLS down 3.3% and MIN off 3.4%. Rare earths saw heavy losses, LYC off 3.3% and ILU down 3.6%. Second-liners like ARU fell 5.7%, well below the SPP placement price of 28c.In corporate news, TYR appointed Nigel Lee as new CEO, GMG fell 3.4% on an AGM update. WDS looking to boost cashflow.Nothing on the economic front here. Asian markets crumbled in places — the Nikkei 225 dropped the most since April, as tech valuations came under scrutiny.Asian markets - HK up 0.1% China up 0.1% and Japan down 1.5% 10-year yields 4.31%. US Futures off lows, Nasdaq down 52. Dow up 56.Want to invest with Marcus Today? Our MT20 portfolio is designed for investors seeking exposure to our strategy while we do the hard work for you. If you're looking for personal financial advice, our friends at Clime Investment Management can help. Their team of licensed advisers operates across most states, offering tailored financial planning services. Why not sign up for a free trial? Gain access to expert insights, research, and analysis to become a better investor.
Luke O'Mahoney, Founder & Creator of Sapienˣ, joined The Modern People Leader.We talked about the three emerging models of product-led HR, Agile theater, and how an enterprise company phased its shift to product-led HR.---- Sponsor Links:
Darren Murph, a leading voice on distributed work and former leader at GitLab, Zillow, and Andela returned to the show.We dug into the remote first maturity scale, the four-pillar operating model (knowledge, project, self, performance), and how to build an “org brain.”---- Sponsor Links:
Brandon Weber, Co-founder & CEO of Nava Benefits, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about why benefits have become the second-largest company expense — and how HR can “moneyball” their healthcare spend, cut down on benefits-related admin work, and deliver better employee outcomes through the emerging “alt marketplace.”---- Nava Links:
The library is more than just books, and our series with the Milwaukee Public Library called Books and Beyond showcases just that. This month we are exploring some stories in honor of the spooky season with MPL's special collections and archives department. They're hosting an event called ‘Milwaukee Mysteries: True Crime and Paranormal' to take a historical spin on the theme with real people, places, haunts, and events in the Milwaukee area. To learn more, Lake Effect's Audrey Nowakowski is joined by librarian archivist Casey Lapworth, who begins by explaining how their librarian take on spooky season came about.
Andrew Golden, Chief People Officer at RetailNext, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about how he's driving transformation, why HR and IT must partner more closely, the power of building lightweight AI solutions in-house, and why he's optimistic about the future of people teams.---- Sponsor Links:
Gena Smith, CHRO at LVMH North America, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how she sparked an AI transformation across 75 LVMH brands, why HR should lead AI change management, and how to reframe AI adoption as a cultural and creative advantage.---- Sponsor Links:
What happens when you put a mic in front of HR leaders and ask them for their unfiltered takes on AI?In this episode, Daniel and Stephen recap their trip to HR Tech — where they recorded 12 quick-hit “AI Confessions” from folks they met on the conference room floor. From agentic workflows and custom GPT chaos to the real blockers slowing down AI adoption, this one's packed with candid insights from the front lines.You'll hear what HR leaders from companies like Lumen, Articulate, and Airbnb.---- Sponsor Links:
Angela Crossman, Hernan Chiosso, and Jean-Luc Charles joined us to debrief the “Yellow Pod” conversation from MPL Live NYC and what the group is actually doing with AI at work. We covered opportunities vs blockers, “AI as coach” guardrails, why HR should own enablement, actionable next steps, and predictions for the AI-powered workplace.---- Sponsor Links:
Joy Rothschild, Chief Human Resources Officer at Omni Hotels & Resorts, joined us on The Modern People Leader. ---- Sponsor Links:
The ASX 200 kicked another 42 points higher at 8987 (0.5%), heading towards records. Banks were solid, CBA up % and ANZ up %. The Big Bank Basket up to $288.49 (+0.4%). Wealth managers kicked too, MQG up 1.8% and NWL rising 1.0%. Insurers slid slightly, QBE down 1.4% and MPL off 0.8%. REITs ok, DGT pushed 11.7% higher on a company upgrade. Healthcare was once again doing ok, CSL up 0.8% and RMD up 3.0%. Tech also rallied, WTC up0.3 % and XRO finding buyers up 1.7%. Retail better too, JBH up 0.8% and APE rose 17.9% after trading resumed on the Canadian acquisition.Resources were flying in places, LYC up 3.1% and MEI up 14.3% on an announcement, Gold miners took a moment, NST down 1.7% and EVN off 1.5%. The Big Three iron ore miners rose slightly with oil and gas down, STO off 2.2% and uranium taking a pause. Lithium stocks gained again, PLS up 2.4% and IPX up 3.9%. In corporate news, TLS fell 0.6% on a $18m fine from the regulator. KLS rose 1.4% as some ferry launches were pushed back. MSB surged 8.7% as its Ryoncil got formal recognition. Nothing on the economic front. Asian markets better, Japan up 1.8%. HK down 1% with China closed.10-year yields steady at 4.33%Want to invest with Marcus Today? The Managed Strategy Portfolio is designed for investors seeking exposure to our strategy while we do the hard work for you. If you're looking for personal financial advice, our friends at Clime Investment Management can help. Their team of licensed advisers operates across most states, offering tailored financial planning services. Why not sign up for a free trial? Gain access to expert insights, research, and analysis to become a better investor.
The ASX 200 slid a mere 3 points to 8846 as the US government shutdown weighed on sentiment. BHP under pressure from the off on news of a halt to iron ore sales in China, falling 2.5% with RIO up 0.5% and FMG doing well, up 1.4%. Lithium stocks under pressure on CATL news of a reopening, MIN fell 3.8%, LTR off 10.7% and PLS falling 6.4%. Copper stocks mixed, SFR up 1.6% and gold miners mostly firm, new record highs for bullion. NST up 0.8%, GMD up 0.7% and WGX rising 10.7% on its 3-year plan. Uranium eased and oil and gas mixed, STO up 0.5%. Banks eased back slightly, CBA up 0.1% with the Big Bank Basket down to $283.09 (-0.1%). Financials found some friends, SOL up 5.4% and MPL rising 0.6%. Healthcare better, CSL up 0.3% and RMD rising 0.8%. Industrials mixed, BXB up 1.3% with TLS rebounding 0.6%. Retail stocks eased a little, tech mixed, WTC up 0.6% and XRO up 0.6%. In corporate news, BVS soared 18.2% on guidance improving. APE in a trading halt pending a capital raise and a Canadian acquisition. ASB jumped 5.8% on a US Naval agreement.On the economic front, nothing locally. Asian markets muted as China National Day takes precedence. Japan down 1%.10-year yields drifted higher to 4.35%. US Futures down 0.5% on shutdown.Want to invest with Marcus Today? The Managed Strategy Portfolio is designed for investors seeking exposure to our strategy while we do the hard work for you. If you're looking for personal financial advice, our friends at Clime Investment Management can help. Their team of licensed advisers operates across most states, offering tailored financial planning services. Why not sign up for a free trial? Gain access to expert insights, research, and analysis to become a better investor.
Jessica Zwaan joins MPL Build to show HR leaders how to craft business cases that CEOs actually approve, using BLUF, the So What test, and clear links to revenue and savings. We walk through conservative projections, objection handling, and a live role-play on adopting a performance platform in today's fiscally skeptical environment.---- Sponsor Links:
In today's episode, we had the pleasure of speaking with Andrew Kuykendall, MD, who gave an overview of the myelofibrosis treatment paradigm. Dr Kuykendall is an assistant member in the Department of Malignant Hematology at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Florida. In our exclusive interview, Dr Kuykendall discussed the prevalence of patients with myelofibrosis who have mutations in JAK2, CALR, or MPL; the crucial roles of the JAK1, JAK2, and IRAK1 pathways in disease progression; the importance of considering JAK inhibition in eligible patients; and the challenges associated with managing cytopenic myelofibrosis.
Kim Minnick, Founder of Code Traveller HR, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We dug into why performance reviews often fail, how companies can decouple performance from compensation, creative ways to reward employees beyond pay, and the importance of transparency, choice, and designing programs that reflect company values.---- Sponsor Links:
This episode of The Modern People Leader dives into the realities of leading through constant change, featuring guests Mita Mallick, Shelby Garrison, and Kelly Lohr. We discussed how HR leaders can navigate layoffs with transparency and humanity, the importance of supporting both exiting and remaining employees, and how to build resilience and adaptability into workplace culture.---- Sponsor Links:
Yemi Akisanya, Head of JEDI (Justice, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion) at Axon, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how the DEI conversation is evolving post-2020, why quotas are being replaced with performance-aligned strategies, and how Axon is making inclusion measurable and mission-critical.---- Sponsor Links:
Jessica Zwaan, Author of Built for People & COO at Talentful, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about AI adoption in HR, from policy design to hands-on building. We explored the “Wild West” of AI use, tool selection, overcoming the stigma of ‘cheating,' and practical frameworks like the 4Bs (Bot, Build, Borrow, Buy) to guide adoption and innovation.---- Sponsor Links:
Pilar Muner, VP of People & Talent at ChartHop, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We covered:- Why fractional work isn't always the burnout cure-all it's made out to be-How ChartHop is using AI to power HR workflows in-house- The AI vendor checklist every HR leader needs — what to ask, what to watch for, and how to cut through the hypeIf you're evaluating AI tools for your people team, this episode will give you a practical lens on security, data integrity, and what to prioritize in vendor selection.---- Sponsor Links:
JooBee Yeow joined us on The Modern People Leader to talk about why HR must stop overfunctioning and start diagnosing real business problems—especially when revenue is on the line. We discussed how HR leaders can step out of their silo, challenge assumptions, influence revenue growth, and flip the HR pyramid to prioritize high-impact, strategic work.---- Sponsor Links:
Send us a textIt seems you can lead the horse to water and it will drink! You need patience! Patience is what is necessary to influence and persuade: taking people's maps into new territories.Matching, pacing, and leading are foundational concepts in NLP, crucial for establishing rapport, understanding another person's model of the world, and guiding them towards desired outcomes. It's an important part of many NLP methods and processes, and can often be the key skill to making those processes effective. It's also a very effective stand-alone tool for enhancing our own communication ability. BUT most people think of the mechanics of MPL, rather than MPL as an art.MPL is a critical and basic skill that communication is based on. No one is going anywhere if you aren't good at matching and pacing.Key Points:· Matching, Pacing, and Leading work together· If you lead too quickly or too strongly, you can lose rapport and will need to reestablish it through matching and pacing.· You can match, pace, and lead someone in a brief interaction or over a series of longer interactions.· You can apply these concepts with your friends and family, work relationships, sales interactions, consulting work, presentations, coaching, therapy, etc.· Doing this successfully can reduce resistance to new ideas and perspectives, increase choice, and help us and others get what we want more easily.The podcast also describes an exercise to help strengthen your skills. Support the show
Tiffany Stevenson, former Chief People Officer at WeightWatchers and Patreon, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about this being the CHROs toughest chapter yet, how AI is reshaping HR, and what HR brings to the boardroom.---- Sponsor Links:
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Priscila Bala, CEO of LifeLabs Learning, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We explored how AI is transforming learning, the enduring role of middle management, and why the most impactful leadership skills are more human than ever.---- Resources Mentioned:
In this episode of the Oncology Brothers podcast, Drs. Rahul and Rohit Gosain dived deep into the world of myeloproliferative neoplasms (MPNs), focusing specifically on polycythemia vera (PV) and essential thrombocythemia (ET). They are joined by Dr. Andrew Kuykendall, a hematologist from Moffitt Cancer Center, who shared his expertise on the latest treatment paradigms and risk stratification strategies for these conditions. Key topics discussed included: • The importance of ruling out secondary causes of erythrocytosis in PV patients. • The role of JAK2 mutation testing and EPO levels in diagnosis of PV. • Treatment options for PV, including phlebotomy, hydroxyurea, and interferon, as well as the emerging role of ruxolitinib. • Risk stratification in ET and the significance of driver mutations like JAK2, CALR, and MPL. • The management of acquired von Willebrand disease in patients with high platelet counts. • Insights from Dr. Kuykendall's recent ASCO plenary presentation on the VERIFY Study and the potential of resveratide in PV treatment. Join us for an informative discussion that highlights the evolving landscape of MPN management and the importance of individualized treatment plans. Follow us on social media: • X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/oncbrothers • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oncbrothers • Website: https://oncbrothers.com/ Don't forget to check out our other hematology episodes for more insights into challenging cases and treatment algorithms!
We were joined by people leaders from Glassdoor, Asana, and Upstart. We talked about the fragmented burnout and how it's hitting people differently, how performance expectations have shifted in the last 6-12 months, and more.---- Sponsor Links:
AM Best Associate Director David Blades discusses a new Best's Market Segment Report that finds social inflation, declining reserve redundancies and rising claims severity continue to vex the MPL segment.
Jessica Zwaan joined us again to unpack the metrics that actually matter in HR today. We talked about the three buckets of metrics every People Leader should use, why the RANS test is a better way to measure engagement, and the one metric to rule them all (ELTV:CAC). ---- Sponsor Links:
Frieda Möcker, Head of People & Culture at Sastrify, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the first steps she took to treat HR more like a product, how her team does sprint planning, and why she prefers “NCTs” over OKRs.---- Sponsor Links:
In today's Tech3 from Moneycontrol, Kuku FM is in talks to raise a fresh $70 million as demand for bite-sized content surges, Udaan secures a payment aggregator licence to tighten internal systems, IPO-bound Urban Company posts a profit ahead of its big market debut, and ASCI revises its opinion trading report after MPL's legal challenge. Tune in for sharp, concise updates from the world of business, tech, and startups.
Tiffany Stevenson (Former CPO, WeightWatchers), Jennifer Rettig (CPO, Pendo.io), and Kelli Dragovich (4x CHRO & Co-host of HR Heretics), joined us for MPL Live in San Francisco.We talked about the pressure HR leaders are under, what CEOs are really thinking, and how we can reimagine performance with simpler systems, clearer expectations, and more human conversations.---- Sponsor Links:
Jessica Zwaan joined us again on The Modern People Leader to break down how to hire for a people ops as a product team.She shared the 5 core skillsets needed, the importance of t-shaped talent, and how to use case studies to spot product thinking in HR Candidates.---- Sponsor Links:
Matt McFarlane and Haris Ikram joined us for a live session to break down everything modern HR leaders need to know about compensation—from philosophy and strategy to pay transparency and AI tools. Together, they shared a forward-thinking playbook for tackling merit cycles, aligning job architecture, and driving better employee experiences through data and design.---- Sponsor Links:
Abby Brennan joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed the power of ONA as the “shadow org chart,” how it reveals hidden influencers, and why it may be key to building smarter, more connected teams in the age of AI.---- Sponsor Links:
Jessica Zwaan joined us again on The Modern People Leader to unpack how to structure a people ops as a product team. She shared four ways to build an HR squad, how to use a spider diagram for squad design, and why it's smart to pilot just one squad first.---- Sponsor Links:
Bryan Power, Head of People at Nextdoor, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how the company is navigating its “third era” under the return of co-founder Nirav Tolia. We explored “The Founders Mentality”, embracing an owner's mindset, and Nextdoor's AI bootcamp.---- Sponsor Links:
Jessica Zwaan, COO at Talentful and author of Built for People, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about “human ops” versus “people ops”, the sprint planning process for her people team, and how nobody gets people ops as a product 100% right (and that's ok).---- Sponsor Links:
Taylor Bradley, VP of Talent Strategy and Success at Turing, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about why every HR team needs to create an AI “prompt pantry”, how Turing “AI'd” their way out of onboarding 800 employees in five days, and how to build AI workflows for HR.---- Sponsor Links:
Molly Sands, Head of the Teamwork Lab at Atlassian, joined us on The Modern People Leader.We talked about Atlassian's latest research on the three things the best teams do differently, the power of unleashing collective knowledge, and why distributed teams have a headstart on AI adoption.----
Pat Wadors, CHRO at Intuitive, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how to find and amplify the golden nuggets of your culture, the three layers of a great employee experience, why you need to “touch the elephant”, and what kids' stories can teach us about leadership.----
Jessica Zwaan returned to The Modern People Leader for a deep dive on how her PeopleOps as a Product philosophy came to life. We talked about the early days of the framework, writing her book, and the launch of MPL Build — a new collaboration between MPL and Jessica to bring the methodology to more teams.----
Shane Koller joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about adopting a product mindset in HR, how Ancestry's people team built their “product roadmap”, and why even great HR programs fall short when they're not connected.----
Michele Bousquet joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about her career journey, leading with heart, and why HR shouldn't be so complicated.----