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In this episode of Arrested DevOps, Matty and guest Kat Morgan discuss the ethical, practical, and technical implications of AI. They explore how AI can assist with coding, improve efficiency, and handle tasks, while emphasizing the importance of good practices and staying informed about the impact of AI.

How did Chef and Puppet shape the early days of Infrastructure as Code? Join Matty Stratton as he shares his experiences with these foundational tools and how they paved the way for modern IaC practices. We explore the power of open-source solutions and how they've transformed DevOps workflows.Matty Stratton is the Director of Developer Relations at Aiven, a well-known member of the DevOps community, founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, and a global organizer of the DevOpsDays set of conferences.Matty has over 20 years of experience in IT operations and is a sought-after speaker internationally, presenting at Agile, DevOps, and cloud engineering focused events worldwide.

It's been ten years of Arrested DevOps! Joe, Matty, Bridget, Jess, and Trevor spend some time (quite a lot of time!) reminiscing over stories and history of the podcast.

This week, we discuss Cisco's acquisition of Splunk, AWS's investment in Anthropic, and VC Market Overview Presentations. Plus, we share some thoughts on Dungeons and Dragons, as well as standardized testing. 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Matty Stratton, Director of Developer Relations at Aiven, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud for a friendly debate on whether or not company employees can still be considered community members. Corey says no, but opens up his position to the slings and arrows of Matty in an entertaining change of pace. Matty explains why he feels company employees can still be considered community members, and also explores how that should be done in a way that is transparent and helpful to everyone in the community. Matty and Corey also explore the benefits and drawbacks of talented community members becoming employees.About MattyMatty Stratton is the Director of Developer Relations at Aiven, a well-known member of the DevOps community, founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, and a global organizer of the DevOpsDays set of conferences.Matty has over 20 years of experience in IT operations and is a sought-after speaker internationally, presenting at Agile, DevOps, and cloud engineering focused events worldwide. Demonstrating his keen insight into the changing landscape of technology, he recently changed his license plate from DEVOPS to KUBECTL.He lives in Chicago and has three awesome kids, whom he loves just a little bit more than he loves Diet Coke. Links Referenced: Aiven: https://aiven.io/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattstratton Mastodon: hackyderm.io/@mattstratton LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattstratton/ TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: This episode is brought to us in part by our friends at Min.ioWith more than 1.1 billion docker pulls - Most of which were not due to an unfortunate loop mistake, like the kind I like to make - and more than 37 thousand github stars, (which are admittedly harder to get wrong), MinIO has become the industry standard alternative to S3. It runs everywhere  - public clouds, private clouds, Kubernetes distributions, baremetal, raspberry's pi, colocations - even in AWS Local Zones. The reason people like it comes down to its simplicity, scalability, enterprise features and best in class throughput. Software-defined and capable of running on almost any hardware you can imagine and some you probably can't, MinIO can handle everything you can throw at it - and AWS has imagined a lot of things - from datalakes to databases.Don't take their word for it though - check it out at www.min.io and see for yourself. That's www.min.io Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn. I am joined today by returning guest, my friend and yours, Matty Stratton, Director of Developer Relations at Aiven. Matty, it's been a hot second. How are you?Matty: It has been a while, but been pretty good. We have to come back to something that just occurred to me when we think about the different things we've talked about. There was a point of contention about prior art of the Corey Quinn face and photos. I don't know if you saw that discourse; we may have to have a conversation. There may be some absent—Corey: I did not see—Matty: Okay.Corey: —discourse, but I also would accept freely that I am not the first person to ever come up with the idea of opening my mouth and looking ridiculous for a photograph either.Matty: That's fair, but the thing that I think was funny—and if you don't mind, I'll just go ahead and throw this out here—is that I didn't put this two and two together. So, I posted a picture on Twitter a week or so ago that was primarily to show off the fact—it was a picture of me in 1993, and the point was that my jeans were French-rolled and were pegged. But in the photo, I am doing kind of the Corey Quinn face and so people said, “Oh, is this prior art?” And I said—you know what? I actually just remembered and I've never thought about this before, but one of my friends in high school, for his senior year ID he took a picture—his picture looks like, you know, that kind of, you know, three-quarters turn with the mouth opening going, “Ah,” you know?And he loved that picture—number one, he loved that picture so much that this guy carried his senior year high school ID in his wallet until we were like 25 because it was his favorite picture of himself. But every photo—and I saw this from looking through my yearbook of my friend Jay when we are seniors, he's doing the Corey Quinn face. And he is anecdotally part of the DevOps community, now a little bit too, and I haven't pointed this out to him. But people were saying that, you know, mine was prior art on yours, I said, “Actually, I was emulating yet someone else.”Corey: I will tell you the actual story of how it started. It was at re:Invent, I want to say 2018 or so, and what happened was is someone, they were a big fan of the newsletter—sort of the start of re:Invent—they said, “Hey, can I get a selfie with you?” And I figured, sure, why not. And the problem I had is I've always looked bad in photographs. And okay, great, so if I'm going to have a photo taken of me, that's going to be ridiculous, why not as a lark, go ahead and do this for fun during the course of re:Invent this year?So, whenever I did that I just slapped—if someone asked for a selfie—I'd slap the big happy open mouth smile on my face. And people thought, “Oh, my God, this is amazing.” And I don't know that it was necessarily worth that level of enthusiasm, but okay. I'll take it. I'm not here to tell people they're wrong when they enjoy a joke that I'm putting out there.And it just sort of stuck. And I think the peak of it that I don't think I'm ever going to be able to beat is I actually managed to pull that expression on my driver's license.Matty: Wow.Corey: Yeah.Matty: That's—Corey: They don't have a sense of humor that they are aware of at the DMV.Matty: No, they really don't. And having been to the San Francisco DMV and knowing how long it takes to get in there, like, that was a bit of a risk on your part because if they decided to change their mind, you wouldn't be able to come back for another four months [laugh].Corey: It amused me to do it, so why not? What else was I going to do? I brought my iPad with me, it has cellular on it, so I just can work remotely from there. It was either that or working in my home office again, and frankly, at the height of the pandemic, I could use the break.Matty: Yes [laugh]. That's saying something when the break you can use is going to the DMV.Corey: Right.Matty: That's a little bit where we were, where we at. I think just real quick thinking about that because there's a lot to be said with that kind of idea of making a—whether it's silly or not, but having a common, especially if you do a lot of photos, do a lot of things, you don't have to think about, like, how do I look? I mean, you have to think about—you know, you can just say I just know what I do. Because if you think about it, it's about cultivating your smile, cultivating your look for your photos, and just sort of having a way so you don't—you just know what to do every time. I guess that's a, you know, maybe a model tip or something. I don't know. But you might be onto something.Corey: I joke that my entire family motto is never be the most uncomfortable person in the room. And there's something to be said for it where if you're going to present a certain way, make it your own. Find a way to at least stand out. If nothing else, it's a bit different. Most people don't do that.Remember, we've all got made fun of, generally women—for some reason—back about 15 years ago or so for duck face, where in all the pictures you're making duck face. And well, there are reasons why that is a flattering way to present your face. But if there's one thing we love as a society, it's telling women they're doing something wrong.Matty: Yeah.Corey: So yeah, there's a whole bunch of ways you're supposed to take selfies or whatnot. Honestly, I'm in no way shape or form pretty enough or young enough to care about any of them. At this point, it's what I do when someone busts out a camera and that's the end of it. Now, am I the only person to do this? Absolutely not. Do I take ownership of it? No. Someone else wants to do it, they need give no credit. The idea probably didn't come from me.Matty: And to be fair, if I'm little bit taking the mickey there or whatever about prior art, it was more than I thought it was funny because I had not even—it was this thing where it was like, this is a good friend of mine, probably some of that I've been friends with longer than anyone in my whole life, and it was a core part [laugh] of his personality when we were 18 and 19, and it just d—I just never direct—like, made that connection. And then it happened to me and went “Oh, my God. Jason and Corey did the same thing.” [laugh]. It was—Corey: No, it feels like parallel evolution.Matty: Yeah, yeah. It was more of me never having connected those dots. And again, you're making that face for your DMV photo amused you, me talking about this for the last three minutes on a podcast amused me. So.Corey: And let's also be realistic here. How many ways are there to hold your face during a selfie that is distinguishable and worthy of comment? Usually, it's like okay, well, he has this weird sardonic half-smile with an eyebrow ar—no. His mouth was wide open. We're gonna go with that.Matty: You know, there's a little—I want to kind of—because I think there's actually quite a bit to the lesson from any of this because I think about—follow me here; maybe I'll get to the right place—like me and karaoke. No one would ever accuse me of being a talented singer, right? I'm not going to sing well in a way where people are going to be moved by my talent. So instead, I have to go a different direction. I have to go funny.But what it boils down to is I can only do—I do karaoke well when it's a song where I can feel like I'm doing an impression of the singer. So, for example, the B-52s. I do a very good impression of Fred Schneider. So, I can sing a B-52 song all day long. I actually could do better with Pearl Jam than I should be able to with my terrible voice because I'm doing an Eddie Vedder impression.So, what I'm getting at is you're sort of taking this thing where you're saying, okay, to your point, you said, “Hey,”—and your words, not mine—[where 00:07:09] somebody say, “The picture is not going to be of me looking like blue steel runway model, so I might as well look goofy.” You know? And take it that way and be funny with it. And also, every time, it's the same way, so I think it's a matter of kind of owning the conversation, you know, and saying, how do you accentuate the thing that you can do. I don't know. There's something about DevOps, somehow in there.Corey: So, I am in that uncomfortable place right now between having finalized a blog post slash podcast that's going out in two days from this recording. So, it will go out before you and I have this discussion publicly, but it's also too late for me to change any of it,m so I figured I will open myself up to the slings and arrows of you, more or less. And you haven't read this thing yet, which is even better, so you're now going to be angry about an imperfect representation of what I said in writing. But the short version is this: if you work for a company as their employee, then you are no longer a part of that company's community, as it were. And yes, that's nuanced and it's an overbroad statement and there are a bunch of ways that you could poke holes in it, but I'm curious to get your take on the overall positioning of it.Matty: So, at face value, I would vehemently disagree with that statement. And by that is, that I have spent years of my life tilting at the opposite windmill, which is just because you work at this company, doesn't mean you do not participate in the community and should not consider yourself a part of the community, first and foremost. That will, again, like everything else, it depends. It depends on a lot of things and I hope we can kind of explore that a little bit because just as much as I would take umbrage if you will, or whatnot, with the statement that if you work at the company, you stop being part of the community, I would also have an issue with, you're just automatically part of the community, right? Because these things take effort.And I feel like I've been as a devreloper, or whatever, Corey—how do you say it?Corey: Yep. No, you're right on. Devreloper.Matty: As a—or I would say, as a DevRel, although people on Twitter are angry about using the word DevRel to discuss—like saying, “I'm a DevRel.” “DevRel is a department.” It's a DevOps engineer thing again, except actually—it's, like, actually wrong. But anyway, you kind of run into this, like for example—I'm going to not name names here—but, like, to say, you know, Twitter for Pets, the—what do you—by the way, Corey, what are you going to do now for your made-up company when what Twitter is not fun for this anymore? You can't have Twitter for Pets anymore.Corey: I know I'm going to have to come up with a new joke. I don't quite know what to do with myself.Matty: This is really hard. While we will pretend Twitter for Pets is still around a little bit, even though its API is getting shut down.Corey: Exactly.Matty: So okay, so we're over here at Twitter for Pets, Inc. And we've got our—Corey: Twitter for Bees, because you know it'll at least have an APIary.Matty: Yeah. Ha. We have our team of devrelopers and community managers and stuff and community engineers that work at Twitter for Pets, and we have all of our software engineers and different people. And a lot of times the assumption—and now we're going to have Twitter for Pets community something, right? We have our community, we have our area, our place that we interact, whether it's in person, it's virtual, whether it's an event, whether it's our Discord or Discourse or Slack or whatever [doodlee 00:10:33] thing we're doing these days, and a lot of times, all those engineers and people whose title does not have the word ‘community' on it are like, “Oh, good. Well, we have people that do that.”So, number one, no because now we have people whose priority is it; like, we have more intentionality. So, if I work on the community team, if I'm a dev advocate or something like that, my priority is communicating and advocating to and for that community. But it's like a little bit of the, you know, the office space, I take the requirements from the [unintelligible 00:11:07] to people, you I give them to the engineers. I've got people—so like, you shouldn't have to have a go-between, right? And there's actually quite a bit of place.So, I think, this sort of assumption that you're not part of it and you have no responsibility towards that community, first of all, you're missing a lot as a person because that's just how you end up with people building a thing they don't understand.Corey: Oh, I think you have tremendous responsibility to the community, but whether you're a part of it and having responsibility to it or not aligned in my mind.Matty: So… maybe let's take a second and what do you mean by being a part of it?Corey: Right. Where very often I'll see a certain, I don't know, very large cloud provider will have an open-source project. Great, so you go and look at the open-source project and the only people with commit access are people who work at that company. That is an easy-to-make-fun-of example of this. Another is when the people who are in a community and talking about how they perceive things and putting out content about how they've interacted with various aspects of it start to work there, you see areas where it starts to call its authenticity into question.AWS is another great example of this. As someone in the community, I can talk about how I would build something on top of AWS, but then move this thing on to Fastly instead of CloudFront because CloudFront is terrible. If you work there, you're not going to be able to say the same thing. So, even if you're not being effusive with praise, there are certain guardrails and constraints that keep you from saying what you might otherwise, just based upon the sheer self-interest that comes from the company whose product or service you're talking about is also signing your paycheck and choosing to continue to do so.Matty: And I think even less about it because that's where your paycheck is coming. It's also just a—there's a gravitational pull towards those solutions because that's just what you're spending your day with, right? You know—Corey: Yeah. And you also don't want to start and admit even to yourself, in some cases, that okay, this aspect of what our company does is terrible, so companies—people shouldn't use it. You want to sort of ignore that, on some level, psychologically because that dissonance becomes harmful.Matty: Yeah. And I think there's—so again, this is where things get nuanced and get to levels. Because if you have the right amount of psychological safety in your organization, the organization understands what it's about to that. Because even people whose job is to be a community person should be able to say, “Hey, this is my actual opinion on this. And it might be contrary to the go-to-market where that comes in.”But it's hard, especially when it gets filtered through multiple layers and now you've got a CEO who doesn't understand that nuance who goes, “Wait, why was Corey on some podcast saying that the Twitter for Pets API is not everything it could possibly be?” So, I do think—I will say this—I do think that organizations and leadership are understanding this more than they might have in the past, so we are maybe putting on ourselves this belief that we can't be as fully honest, but even if it's not about hiding the warts, even if it's just a matter of also, you're just like, hey, chances are—plus also to be quite frank, if I work at the company, I probably have access to way more shit than I would have to pay for or do whatever and I know the right way. But here's the trick, and I won't even say it's a dogfooding thing, but if you are not learning and thinking about things the way that your users do—and I will even say that that's where—it is the users, which are the community, that community or the people that use your product or are connected to it, they don't use it; they may be anecdotal—or not anecdotally, maybe tangentially connected. I will give an example. And there was a place I was working where it was very clear, like, we had a way to you know, do open-source contributions back of a type of a provider plug-in, whatever you want to call it and I worked at the company and I could barely figure out how to follow the instructions.Because it made a lot of sense to someone who built that software all day long and knew the build patterns, knew all that stuff. So, if you were an engineer at this company, “Well, yeah, of course. You just do this.” And anybody who puts the—connects the dots, this has gotten better—and this was understood relatively quickly as, “Oh, this is the problem. Let's fix it.” So, the thing is, the reason why I bring this up is because it's not something anybody does intentionally because you don't know what you don't know. And—Corey: Oh, I'm not accusing anyone of being a nefarious actor in any of this. I also wonder if part of this is comes from your background as being heavily involved in the Chef community as a Chef employee and as part of the community around that, which is inherently focused on an open-source product that a company has been built around, whereas my primary interaction with community these days is the AWS community, where it doesn't matter whether you're large or small, you are not getting much, if anything, for free from AWS; you're all their customers and you don't really have input into how something gets built, beyond begging nicely.Matty: That's definitely true. And I think we saw that and there was things, when we look at, like, how community, kind of, evolved or just sort of happened at Chef and why we can't recreate it the same way is there was a certain inflection point of the industry and the burgeoning DevOps movement, and there wasn't—you know, so a lot of that was there. But one of the big problems, too, is, as Corey said, everybody—I shouldn't say every, but I've from the A—all the way up to AWS to your smaller startups will have this problem of where you end up hiring in—whether you want to or not—all of your champions and advocates and your really strong community members, and then that ends up happening. So, number one, that's going to happen. So frankly, if you don't push towards this idea, you're actually going to have people not want to come work because you should be able to be still the member that you were before.And the other thing is that at certain size, like, at the size of a hyperscaler, or, you know, a Microsoft—well, anybody—well Microsofts not a hyperscaler, but you know what I'm saying. Like, very, very large organization, your community folks are not necessarily the ones doing that hiring away. And as much as they might—you know, and again, I may be the running the community champion program at Microsoft and see that you want—you know, but that Joe Schmo is getting hired over into engineering. Like, I'm not going to hire Joe because it hurts me, but I can't say you can't, you know? It's so this is a problem at the large size.And at the smaller size, when you're growing that community, it happens, too, because it's really exciting. When there's a place that you're part of that community, especially when there's a strong feel, like going to work for the mothership, so to speak is, like, awesome. So again, to give an example, I was a member of the Chef community, I was a user, a community person well, before, you know, I went and, you know, had a paycheck coming out of that Seattle office. And it was, like, the coolest thing in the world to get a job offer from Ch—like, I was like, “Oh, my God. I get to actually go work there now.” Right?And when I was at Pulumi, there quite a few people I could think of who I knew through the community who then get jobs at Pulumi and we're so excited, and I imagine still excited, you know? I mean, that was awesome to do. So, it's hard because when you get really excited about a technology, then being able to say, “Wait, I can work on this all the time?” That sounds awesome, right? So like, you're going to have that happen.So, I think what you have to do is rather than prevent it from happening because number one, like, you don't want to actually prevent that from happening because those people will actually be really great additions to your organization in lots of ways. Also, you're not going to stop it from happening, right? I mean, it's also just a silly way to do it. All you're going to do is piss people off, and say, like, “Hey, you're not allowed to work here because we need you in the community.” Then they're going to be like, “Great. Well, guess what I'm not a part of anymore now, jerk?” Right? You know [laugh] I mean so—Corey: Exactly.Matty: Your [unintelligible 00:18:50] stops me. So, that doesn't work. But I think to your point, you talked about, like, okay, if you have a, ostensibly this a community project, but all the maintainers are from one—are from your company, you know? Or so I'm going to point to an example of, we had—you know, this was at Pulumi, we had a Champions program called Puluminaries, and then there's something similar to like Vox Populi, but it was kind of the community that was not run by Pulumi Inc. In that case.Now, we helped fund it and helped get it started, but there was there were rules about the, you know, the membership of the leadership, steering committee or board or whatever it was called, there was a hard limit on the number of people that could be Pulumi employees who were on that board. And it actually, as I recall when I was leaving—I imagine this is not—[unintelligible 00:19:41] does sometimes have to adjust a couple of things because maybe those board members become employees and now you have to say, you can't do that anymore or we have to take someone down. But the goal was to actually, you know, basically have—you know, Pulumi Corp wanted to have a voice on that board because if for no other reason, they were funding it, but it was just one voice. It wasn't even a majority voice. And that's a hard sell in a lot of places too because you lose control over that.There's things I know with, uh—when I think about, like, running meetup communities, like, we might be—well I mean, this is not a big secret, I mean because it's been announced, but we're—you know, Aiven is helping bootstrap a bunch of data infrastructure meetups around the world. But they're not Aiven meetups. Now, we're starting them because they have to start, but pretty much our approach is, as soon as this is running and there's people, whether they work here, work with us or not, they can take it, right? Like, if that's go—you know? And being able to do that can be really hard because you have to relinquish the control of your community.And I think you don't have to relinquish a hundred percent of that control because you're helping facilitate it because if it doesn't already have its own thing—to make sure that things like code of conduct and funding of it, and there's things that come along with the okay, we as an organization, as a company that has dollars and euros is going to do stuff for this, but it's not ours. And that's the thing to remember is that your community does not belong to you, the company. You are there to facilitate it, you are there to empower it, you're there to force-multiply it, to help protect it. And yeah, you will probably slurp a whole bunch of value out of it, so this is not magnanimous, but if you want it to actually be a place it's going to work, it kind of has to be what it wants to be. But by the same token, you can't just sort of sit there and be like, “I'm going to wait for this community grow up around me without anything”—you know.So, that's why you do have to start one if there is quote-unquote—maybe if there's no shape to one. But yeah, I think that's… it is different when it's something that feels a little—I don't even want to say that it's about being open-source. It's a little bit about it less of it being a SaaS or a service, or if it's something that you—I don't know.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by Honeycomb. I'm not going to dance around the problem. Your. Engineers. Are. Burned. Out. They're tired from pagers waking them up at 2 am for something that could have waited until after their morning coffee. Ring Ring, Who's There? 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I think that it starts as, well these are people who are super-passionate about this, and they have great ideas and they were great to work with. Could we hire them?And the answer is, “Oh, wait. You can give me money for this thing I've been doing basically for free? Yeah, sure, why not?” And that's great in the individual cases. The problem is, at some point, you start to see scenarios where it feels like, if not everyone, then a significant vocal majority of the community starts to work there.Matty: I think less often than you might think is it done strategically or on purpose. There have been exceptions to that. There's one really clear one where it feels like a certain company a few years ago, hired up all the usual suspects of the DevOps community. All of a sudden, you're like, oh, a dozen people all went to go work at this place all at once. And the fun thing is, I remember feeling a little bit—got my nose a little out of joint because I was not the hiring mana—like, I knew the people.I was like, “Well, why didn't you ask me?” And they said, “Actually, you are more important to us not working here.” Now, that might have just been a way to sell my dude-in-tech ego or not, but whether or not that was actually true for me or not, that is a thing where you say you know, your folks—but I do think that particular example of, like, okay, I'm this, that company, and I'm going to go hire up all the usual suspects, I think that's less. I think a lot of times when you see communities hire up those people, it's not done on purpose and in fact, it's probably not something they actually wanted to do in mass that way. But it happens because people who are passionate about your product, it's like I said before, it actually seems pretty cool to go work on it as your main thing.But I can think of places I've been where we had, you know—again, same thing, we had a Pulumi—we had someone who was probably our strongest, loudest, most vocal community member, and you know, I really wanted to get this person to come join us and that was sort of one of the conversations. Nobody ever said, “We won't offer this person a job if they're great.” Like, that's the thing. I think that's actually kind of would be shitty to be like, “You're a very qualified individual, but you're more important to me out in the community so I'm not going to make your job offer.” But it was like, Ooh, that's the, you know—it'd be super cool to have this person but also, not that that should be part of our calculus of decision, but then you just say, what do you do to mitigate that?Because what I'm concerned about is people hearing this the wrong way and saying, “There's this very qualified individual who wants to come work on my team at my company, but they're also really important to our community and it will hurt our community if they come work here, so sorry, person, we're not going to give you an opportunity to have an awesome job.” Like, that's also thinking about the people involved, too. But I know having talked to folks that lots of these different large organizations that have this problem, generally, those community folks, especially at those places, they don't want this [laugh] happening. They get frustrated by it. So, I mean, I'll tell you, it's you know, the—AWS is one of them, right?They're very excited about a lot of the programs and cool people coming from community builders and stuff and Heroes, you know. On one hand, it's incredibly awesome to have a Hero come work at AWS, but it hurts, right, because now they're not external anymore.Corey: And you stop being a Hero in that case, as well.Matty: Yeah. You do, yeah.Corey: Of course, they also lose the status if they go to one of their major competitors. So like, let me get this straight. You can't be a Hero if you work for AWS or one of its competitors. And okay, how are there any Heroes left at all at some point? And the answer is, they bound it via size and a relatively small list of companies. But okay.Matty: So, thinking back to your point about saying, okay, so if you work at the company, you lose some authenticity, some impartiality, some, you know… I think, rather than just saying, “Well, you're not part”—because that also, honestly, my concern is that your blog post is now going to be ammunition for all the people who don't want to act as members of the community for the company they work for now. They're going to say, well, Corey told me I don't have to. So, like I said, I've been spending the last few years tilting at the opposite windmill, which is getting people that are not on the community team to take part in community summits and discourse and things like that, like, you know, for that's—so I think the thing is, rather than saying, “Well, you can't,” or, “You aren't,” it's like, “Well, what do you do to mitigate those things?”Corey: Yeah, it's a weird thing because taking AWS as the example that I've been beating up on a lot, the vast majority of their employees don't know the community exists in any meaningful sense. Which, no fault to them. The company has so many different things, no one keeps up with at all. But it's kind of nuts to realize that there are huge communities of people out there using a thing you have built and you do not know that those users exist and talk to each other in a particular watering hole. And you of course, as a result, have no presence there. I think that's the wrong direction, too. But—Matty: Mm-hm.Corey: Observing the community and being part of the community, I think there's a difference. Are you a biologist or are you a gorilla?Matty: Okay, but [sigh] I guess that's sort of the difference, too which—and it's hard, it's very hard to not just observe. Because I think that actually even taking the mentality of, “I am here to be Jane Goodall, Dr. Jane Goodall, and observe you while I live amongst you, but I'm not going to actually”—although maybe I'm probably doing disservice—I'm remembering my Goodall is… she was actually more involved. May be a bad example.Corey: Yeah. So, that analogy does fall apart a little bit.Matty: It does fall apart a little bit—Corey: Yeah.Matty: But it's you kind of am I sitting there taking field notes or am I actually engaging with you? Because there is a difference. Even if your main reason for being there is just purely to—I mean, this is not the Prime Directive. It's not Star Trek, right? You're not going to like, hold—you don't need to hold—I mean, do you have to hold yourself aloof and say, “I don't participate in this conversation; I'm just here to take notes?”I think that's very non-genuine at that point. That's over-rotating the other way. But I think it's a matter of in those spaces—I think there's two things. I think you have to have a way to be identified as you are an employee because that's just disclosure.Corey: Oh, I'm not suggesting by any stretch of the imagination, people work somewhere but not admit that they work somewhere when talking about the company. That's called fraud.Matty: Right. No, no, and I don't think it's even—but I'm saying beyond just, if it's not, if you're a cop, you have to tell me, right?Corey: [laugh].Matty: It's like, it's not—if asked, I will tell you I work at AWS. It's like in that place, it should say, “I am an AWS em—” like, I should be badged that way, just so it's clear. I think that's actually helpful in two ways. It's also helpful because it says like, okay, maybe you have a connection you can get for me somehow. Like, you might actually have some different insight or a way to chase something that, you know, it's not necessarily just about disclosure; it's also helpful to know.But I think within those spaces, that disclosure—or not disclosure, but being an employee does not offer you any more authority. And part of that is just having to be very clear about how you're constructing that community, right? And that's sort of the way that I think about it is, like, when we did the Pulumi Community Summit about a year ago, right? It was an online, you know, thing we did, and the timing was such that we didn't have a whole lot of Pulumi engineers were able to join, but when we—and it's hard to say we're going to sit in an open space together and everybody is the same here because people also—here's the difference. You say you want this authority? People will want that authority from the people that work at the company and they will always go to them and say, like, “Well, you should have this answer. Can you tell me about this? Can you do this?”So, it's actually hard on both cases to have that two-way conversation unless you set the rules of that space such as, “Okay, I work at Aiven, but when I'm in this space, short of code of conduct or whatever, if I have to be doing that thing, I have no more authority on this than anyone else.” I'm in this space as the same way everyone else's. You can't let that be assumed.Corey: Oh, and big companies do. It's always someone else's… there's someone else's department. Like, at some level, it feels like when you work in one of those enormous orgs, it's your remit is six inches wide.Matty: Well, right. Right. So, I think it's like your authority exists only so far as it's helpful to somebody. If I'm in a space as an Aivener, I'm there just as Matty the person. But I will say I work at Aiven, so if you're like, “God, I wish that I knew who was the person to ask about this replication issue,” and then I can be like, “Aha, I actually have backchannel. Let me help you with that.” But if I can say, “You know what? This is what I think about Kafka and I think why this is whatever,” like, you can—my opinion carries just as much weight as anybody else's, so to speak. Or—Corey: Yeah. You know, it's also weird. Again, community is such a broad and diverse term, I find myself in scenarios where I will observe and talk to people inside AWS about things, but I never want to come across as gloating somehow, that oh, I know, internal people that talk to you about this and you don't. Like, that's never how I want to come across. And I also, I never see the full picture; it's impossible for me to, so I never make commitments on behalf of other people. That's a good way to get in trouble.Matty: It is. And I think in the case of, like, someone like you who's, you know, got the connections you have or whatever, it's less likely for that to be something that you would advertise for a couple of reasons. Like, nobody should be advertising to gloat, but also, part of my remit as a member of a community team is to actually help people. Like, you're doing it because you want to or because it serves you in a different way. Like, that is literally my job.So like, it shouldn't be, like—like, because same thing, if you offer up your connections, now you are taking on some work to do that. Someone who works at the company, like, yes, you should be taking on that work because this is what we do. We're already getting paid for it, you know, so to speak, so I think that's the—Corey: Yeah.Matty: —maybe a nuance, but—Corey: Every once in a while, I'll check my Twitter spam graveyard, [unintelligible 00:32:01] people asking me technical questions months ago about various things regarding AWS and whatnot. And that's all well and good; the problem I have with it is that I'm not a support vector. I don't represent for the company or work for them. Now, if I worked there, I'd feel obligated to make sure this gets handed to the right person. And that's important.The other part of it, though, is okay, now that that's been done and handed off, like do I shepherd it through the process? Eh. I don't want people to get used to asking people in DMs because again, I consider myself to be a nice guy, but if I'm some nefarious jerk, then I could lead them down a very dark path where I suddenly have access to their accounts. And oh, yeah, go ahead and sign up for this thing and I'll take over their computer or convince them to pay me in iTunes gift cards or something like that. No, no, no. Have those conversations in public or through official channels, just because I don't, I don't think you want to wind up in that scenario.Matty: So, my concern as well, with sort of taking the tack of you are just an observer of the community, not a part of it is, that actually can reinforce some pretty bad behavior from an organization towards how they treat the community. One of the things that bothers me—if we're going to go on a different rant about devrelopers like myself—is I like to say that, you know, we pride ourselves as DevRels as being very empathetic and all this stuff, but very happy to shit all over people that work in sales or marketing, based on their job title, right? And I'm like, “Wow, that's great,” right? We're painting with this broad brush. Whereas in reality, we're not separate from.And so, the thing is, when you treat your community as something separate from you, you are treating it as something separate from you. And then it becomes a lot easier also, to not treat them like people and treat them as just a bunch of numbers and treat them as something to have value extracted from rather than it—this is actually a bunch of humans, right? And if I'm part of that, then I'm in the same Dunbar number a little bit, right? I'm in the same monkey sphere as those people because me, I'm—whoever; I'm the CTO or whatever, but I'm part of this community, just like Joe Smith over there in Paducah, you know, who's just building things for the first time. We're all humans together, and it helps to not treat it as the sort of amorphous blob of value to be extracted.So, I think that's… I think all of the examples you've been giving and those are all valid concerns and things to watch out for, the broad brush if you're not part of the community if you work there, my concern is that that leads towards exacerbating already existing bad behavior. You don't have to convince most of the people that the community is separate from them. That's what I'm sort of getting at. I feel like in this work, we've been spending so much time to try to get people to realize they should be acting like part of their larger community—and also, Corey, I know you well enough to know that, you know, sensationalism to make a point [laugh] works to get somebody to join—Corey: I have my moments.Matty: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there's I think… I'll put it this way. I'm very interested to see the reaction, the response that comes out in, well now, for us a couple of days, for you the listener, a while ago [laugh] when that hits because I think it is a, I don't want to say it's controversial, but I think it's something that has a lot of, um… put it this way, anything that's simple and black and white is not good for discussion.Corey: It's nuanced. And I know that whenever I wrote in 1200 words is not going to be as nuanced of the conversation we just had, either, so I'm sure people will have opinions on it. That'd be fun. It'd be a good excuse for me to listen.Matty: Exactly [laugh]. And then we'll have to remember to go back and find—I'll have to do a little Twitter search for the dates.Corey: We'll have to do another discussion on this, if anything interesting comes out of it.Matty: Actually, that would be funny. That would be—we could do a little recap.Corey: It would. I want to thank you so much for being so generous with your time. Where can people find you if they want to learn more?Matty: Well, [sigh] for the moment, [sigh] who knows what will be the case when this comes out, but you can still find me on Twitter at @mattstratton. I'm also at hackie-derm dot io—sorry, hackyderm.io. I keep wanting to say hackie-derm, but hackyderm actually works better anyway and it's funnier. But [hackyderm.io/@mattstratton](https://hackyderm.io/@mattstratton) is my Mastodon. LinkedIn; I'm. Around there. I need to play more at that. You will—also again, I don't know when this is coming out, so you won't tell you—you don't find me out traveling as much as you might have before, but DevOpsDays Chicago is coming up August 9th and 10th in Chicago, so at the time of listening to this, I'm sure our program will have been posted. But please come and join us. It will be our ninth time of hosting a DevOpsDay Chicago. And I have decided I'm sticking around for ten, so next year will be my last DevOpsDay that I'm running. So, this is the penultimate. And we always know that the penultimate is the best.Corey: Absolutely. Thanks again for your time. It's appreciated. Matty Stratton, Director of Developer Relations at Aiven. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn, and this is Screaming in the Cloud. If you've enjoyed this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, whereas if you've hated this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, along with an angry comment talking about how I completely missed the whole point of this community and failing to disclose that you are in fact one of the producers of the show.Corey: If your AWS bill keeps rising and your blood pressure is doing the same, then you need The Duckbill Group. We help companies fix their AWS bill by making it smaller and less horrifying. The Duckbill Group works for you, not AWS. We tailor recommendations to your business and we get to the point. 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Matty Stratton is the Director of Developer Relations at Aiven, a well-known member of the DevOps community, founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, and the global chair of the DevOpsDays set of conferences. Matty has over 20 years of experience in IT operations and is a sought-after speaker internationally, presenting at Agile, DevOps, and cloud engineering focused events worldwide. Demonstrating his keen insight into the changing landscape of technology, he recently changed his license plate from DEVOPS to KUBECTL. He lives in Chicago and has three awesome kids, whom he loves just a little bit more than he loves Diet Coke. You can follow Matty on Social Media https://twitter.com/mattstratton https://matty.wtf/ Also take a look at some other links from Matty https://www.arresteddevops.com/ https://devopsdays.org/ PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST - Spotify: http://isaacl.dev/podcast-spotify - Apple Podcasts: http://isaacl.dev/podcast-apple - Google Podcasts: http://isaacl.dev/podcast-google - RSS: http://isaacl.dev/podcast-rss You can check out more episodes of Coffee and Open Source on https://www.coffeeandopensource.com/ Coffee and Open Source is hosted by Isaac Levin (https://twitter.com/isaacrlevin) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/coffeandopensource/support

In part two, Dave and Emily continue their chat with Matty Stratton. If you missed it, please listen to part one of this conversation in Episode 043. Matt is a Staff Developer Advocate at Pulumi, founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, and the global chair of the DevOpsDays set of conferences. He is a well-known international speaker and brings over 20 years of IT Operations experience. Matt recants the early days of DevOps, shares more tech history, and offers an exciting look at what is yet to come for the industry. Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattstratton Emily on Twitter: https://twitter.com/editingemily Dave on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thedavedev Matt's Website: https://matty.wtf/ Matt's Podcast – Arrested DevOps: https://www.arresteddevops.com Matt on Twitch – DevOps Party Games: https://www.twitch.tv/devopspartygames Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattstratton/ Matt's Presentations and Upcoming Speaking Events: https://speaking.mattstratton.com/ Subscribe: Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f8bf7630-2521-4b40-be90-c46a9222c159/aws-developers-podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/aws-developers-podcast/id1574162669 Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjk5NDM2MzU0OS9zb3VuZHMucnNz Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rQjgnBvuyr18K03tnEHBI TuneIn: https://tunein.com/podcasts/Technology-Podcasts/AWS-Developers-Podcast-p1461814/ RSS Feed: https://feeds.soundcloud

In this episode, Dave and Emily chat with Matty Stratton. Matt is a Staff Developer Advocate at Pulumi, founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, and the global chair of the DevOpsDays set of conferences. He is a well-known international speaker and brings over 20 years of IT Operations experience. Matt walk through his journey to the cloud, the early days of DevOps, the creation of DevOps days, and thought stuff on the current state of DevOps. Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattstratton Emily on Twitter: https://twitter.com/editingemily Dave on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thedavedev Matt's Website: https://matty.wtf/ Matt's Podcast – Arrested DevOps: https://www.arresteddevops.com Matt on Twitch – DevOps Party Games: https://www.twitch.tv/devopspartygames Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattstratton/ Matt's Upcoming Speaking Events: https://speaking.mattstratton.com/ Subscribe: Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/f8bf7630-2521-4b40-be90-c46a9222c159/aws-developers-podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/aws-developers-podcast/id1574162669 Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zb3VuZGNsb3VkLmNvbS91c2Vycy9zb3VuZGNsb3VkOnVzZXJzOjk5NDM2MzU0OS9zb3VuZHMucnNz Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7rQjgnBvuyr18K03tnEHBI TuneIn: https://tunein.com/podcasts/Technology-Podcasts/AWS-Developers-Podcast-p1461814/ RSS Feed: https://feeds.soundcloud

Guest Bio:Matt Stratton is a Staff Developer Advocate at Pulumi, founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, and the global chair of the DevOpsDays set of conferences. Matt has over 20 years of experience in IT operations and is a sought-after speaker internationally, presenting at Agile, DevOps, and cloud engineering focused events worldwide. He's passionate about helping organizations use awesome tools to focus on what makes them special and drive relevant cultural change. He truly believe that DevOps can revolutionize IT, or at least make it more fun to go to work.  Matt lives in Chicago and has three awesome kids, whom he loves just a little bit more than he loves Diet Coke. Matt is the keeper of the Thought Leaderboard for the DevOps Party Games online game show and you can find him on Twitter at @mattstratton. Quote“Things that are meant for machines have them be for machines. Json is not supposed to be read by humans or much less written by humans.”-Matt Stratton - Timestamps:0:18 Speaker Introduction1:35 Returning to in person conferences4:59 Friendships during the pandemic6:31 What does Matt's average day looks like?11:40 Conferences: virtual only vs in person20:28 Pulumi approach to IaC24:48 What should developers learn next?27:33 Future of Tech29:52 Favourite Sci-fi Tech and changes31:54 Diversity and inclusion37:26 How to lift others up39:09 Community42:16 Episode Wrap upLearn more about the DevOps Days community at https://devopsdays.org/. Connect with Matt on:https://speaking.mattstratton.com/https://twitter.com/mattstrattonhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/mattstratton/https://github.com/mattstratton Connect with Cloud Gossip on:https://www.cloudgossip.nethttps://www.linkedin.com/company/cloud-gossiphttps://twitter.com/CloudGossipnetConnect with Annie on:https://twitter.com/AnnieTalvastohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/talvasto/Connect with Karl on:https://twitter.com/karlgotshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/karlots/

About “Matty”Matt Stratton is a Staff Developer Advocate at Pulumi, founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, and the global chair of the DevOpsDays set of conferences.Matt has over 20 years of experience in IT operations and is a sought-after speaker internationally, presenting at Agile, DevOps, and cloud engineering focused events worldwide. Demonstrating his keen insight into the changing landscape of technology, he recently changed his license plate from DEVOPS to KUBECTL.He lives in Chicago and has three awesome kids, whom he loves just a little bit more than he loves Diet Coke. Matt is the keeper of the Thought Leaderboard for the DevOps Party Games online game show and you can find him on Twitter at @mattstratton.Links Referenced Pulumi: https://www.pulumi.com/ Arrested DevOps: https://www.arresteddevops.com/ 8bits.tv: https://8bits.tv Twitter: https://twitter.com/mattstratton LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattstratton/ speaking.mattstratton.com: https://speaking.mattstratton.com twitch.tv/Pulumi: https://twitch.tv/Pulumi 8bit.tv: https://8bit.tv duckbillgroup.com: https://duckbillgroup.com TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by our friends at Vultr. 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I'm Corey Quinn. Returning today for yet another round on the Screaming in the Cloud podcast is my dear friend, and hopefully yours as well, Matty Stratton. Since the last time we spoke, you've changed jobs, Mattie; you're now a staff developer advocate at Pulumi. I don't believe you were the last time you were on this show, but memory escapes me.Matty: You know, I was just wondering that myself, and I guess we'll have to go back to the archives.Corey: Yes, but that sounds like work, so we're going to roll with it anyway.Matty: Everyone who's listening, go do the homework for us. And, like, just tweet and let us know what my job was last time.Corey: And yell at us if we get it wrong, of course.Matty: Yell at us if we get it right.Corey: In the interest of being, well, I guess a little on the judgey side—because why not I tend to be good at that.Matty: I was hoping to be on the judgey side on this show.Corey: Oh, absolutely. You have a very strange career trajectory, in that—the companies you work for and how that winds up going back and forth. But when we first met, you were at Chef; and Chef, great company. And after that it was PagerDuty; great company.Matty: [laugh].Corey: And then it was IBM Hat, which I—was it Red Hat, was it IBM side?Matty: For me, it was Red Hat.Corey: So, it went from Chef, which is great, and a company that was doing a lot of things on the container side of the world became a thing and mutable infrastructure did sort of change Chef's business model. And then you went to PagerDuty, the wake-you-up-in-the-middle-of-the-night service named after some legacy technologies. And should be very direct in the popular consciousness, IBM views pagers as newfangled technology in some circles, in some areas, so it feels like you were traveling back in time a bit, again and again and again. On the federal side as well which, for excellent reasons, is not usually the absolute bow wave of innovation because you don't usually want your government doing that in some ways. And now you've leapfrogged into Pulumi, which is sort of the bleeding edge of the modern way we think about provisioning cloud infrastructure.It feels like it's a very interesting trajectory. Now, this is speaking as a complete outsider, I'm going to assume that's not how you view basically any characterization of any of those companies I've just named. How do you view it?Matty: You know, I don't know that I necessarily disagree with the way that you've put everything, but there's some nuance and some interesting stuff when it comes to that. So, I'm going to specifically talk about the Red Hat thing; why did I leave PagerDuty? And one of the interesting things is, I actually had an offer from Pulumi at the time that I took the job from Red Hat. So, it actually took me a year to come and work at Pulumi. And the little bit of the short answer is Red Hat backed up a big truck of money. And we all have a price.Corey: Yeah, the dulcet tones of a dump truck full of gold bricks emptying itself into your backyard, it's hard to say no to.Matty: The reason that I want to bring that up is that has nothing to do with specifically Red Hat the company versus other companies. It was the role. It was a sales-oriented role, so if you don't know, sales gets paid a lot of money and there's good reason. One of the reasons—again, if you don't work in sales, you don't necessarily know this—is, the last day of the quarter, you will have your VP of sales talking, he'll be like, “Corey, you are amazing. I love you. Look at this big deal you brought in.” Twenty-four hours later, “What have you done for me lately?”Corey: Mm-hm.Matty: That didn't matter, right? And I remember the CEO of PagerDuty—so Jen Tejada—at one of the sales kickoffs I was at, she said—you know, because salespeople, like, you might know this, like, the top sales reps in the company, they go on trips, they have all this stuff—and Jen said, you know, “I've got engineers here that are like, well, I don't understand.” It's like, “How come the salespeople get to go to Bermuda or do whatever?” And she's like, “Would you like your paycheck to change every quarter based upon specifically what you did and have the stress of what have you done all this stuff? No? Okay, cool. Then you can keep”—you know, there's a trade-off. So, the point of that was—Corey: And as your paycheck gets smaller, you're getting closer and closer to losing your job because a salesperson needs to perform to keep. It's very feast or famine. It's a heck of a role, and I have nothing but respect for people who can do it.Matty: And people can do it well. And I do feel like a lot of people don't understand how sales works, especially in a larger organization, and I think it's really important. So, one of the things that was interesting is we've all—I shouldn't say all, but many of us have worked in jobs that have some form of variable compensation, some kind of annual bonus. So, let's say for example, at x company I'm working at, they're like, “Mattie, your bonus is equal to 10% of your paycheck.” Well, the most it could be, generally speaking, it's like, let's say that your bonus would be, I'm just going to make up a number and say it's a $10,000 bonus.That's the most it could be, and that's if everything is amazing. Maybe I'll get a little more. Now, your commission, your what they call your on-target earnings and sales, they'll tell you a number and they'll say, “Okay, Corey, you're on-target earnings are, say $200,000.” And you're like, “Oh.” But whatever.The thing is, if you're only getting you're on-target earnings, you probably are needing to look for another job. So, you remember, like, we hear it differently, those of us that have done bonuses in a non-sales way. We're like, “But that's not a lot.” You're like, “No, but what they tell you your commission is, it's actually… it better end up being more or else you have trouble.” Anyway, point is—Corey: And in some cases, it could be a significant multiple of that number as well, for top performers.Matty: Absolutely.Corey: The upside is always interesting, and calculating out the nuances of the sales plan is always a challenge, speaking as a business owner. It is a very specific field that has a bunch of nuance to it. Something I learned very early on is that if you manage salespeople as if they were engineers, or manage engineers as if they were salespeople, you are going to have an absolutely terrible time.Matty: I think one of the things that, along those lines, I've have had conversations with people who work in different parts of technology, different parts of the business, who their long-term desire is to be a CEO, and I'm like, you really should go spend some time working in sales because most CEOs—again, this is blunt, but it's true—if you think about it, what is the area of the business that they pay the most attention to? And I don't mean, they don't care about the other stuff, but who is the person on the executive team that the CEO is mostly joined at the hip with, and it's your chief revenue officer, it's your head of sales because you have to understand that, you have to understand pipeline, how that—you have to understand a lot of things as a CEO, but if you don't know how sales works—it doesn't mean know how to sell but know the ideas behind it. I mean, you should know how to sell, but you know what I mean?Corey: Yeah, I think every CEO is selling. It is a sales job, whether that is selling the company to prospective employees, whether it is selling strategic partnerships, whether it's being brought in to help close strategic deals, et cetera, you're always selling in that role.Matty: That's a very good point. I should rephrase that, where I wasn't saying you don't need to know—Corey: CEO who has no idea how to sell [unintelligible 00:07:42] the fundamentals of—like, you put them in a meeting, and they wind up saying the wrong thing and pooching the deal, yeah, they're not CEO for very long.Matty: It's not just knowing how to sell, it's understanding how a sales process works. That's sort of the thing.Corey: I'll take it one step further beyond that, and that is that I believe that every professional is working in sales and is selling something, but not everyone's aware of it“. Well, I'm an engineer, and I don't do any sort of sales work.” Well, I hear about that from folks who are—“I have all these great ideas, but none of them ever get implemented.” Well, you're not doing an effective job of selling the idea. “I keep getting put up for promotion and not getting it,” or, “I'm not doing well in job interviews.” Or, “I'm trying to get a raise and it just isn't working for me.” And every job has elements of sales to it. I'd argue a lot of facets of modern life have sales elements to it.Matty: They do and I think the reason that people get hung out—I agree with you; I could not agree with you more. I have a talk I used to give called “The Five Love Languages of DevOps” but it was really a talk about effecting organizational change, and you have to be a salesperson, right? But I think we have this—and this is a much larger topic because it comes into how people always want to distance themselves from sales—we have this thing in our head that when we think of sales, we think of tricky people. Shysters, right? Someone that's trying to, like, pull a fast one on us, like the used car salesperson thing.And I'm like, that's not most salespeople. Like, salespeople want you to—because when we talk about learning how to sell, it's not learning how to trick somebody. It's actually learning about how to—I mean, here's the biggest thing. You want to know—we talk about DevOps all the time and stuff like that, you know, and empathy. You want to know one of the most important skills of a salesperson is? Freaking empathy.Because you need to be able to understand what your prospect—and that's if you've, you know, there's the book, The Challenger Sale, which like all business books can be summarized in a blog post, right, so you can just go read the blog post about The Challenger Sale; that'll tell you everything you need to know, but a good salesperson that's a challenger-style salesperson knows the customer better than they know themselves and knows there problems they might have that they're not aware of. And it's not because they're smarter; they have a different perspective. So, the same thing is true. So, to Corey's point, we're always selling. And even whether it's figuratively, like, conceptually—but I used to say when I was a Chef I said, the two best sales—most effective salespeople at Chef were Adam Jacob, the founder, and Nathan Harvey, the VP of community.Sales engineers are powerful because a customer will tell things to a sales engineer they won't tell the rep because they think the rep is trying to take advantage of them, which isn't true. Most important conversations that happen are on the walk from the front desk to the conference room. How many conversations would I have with the SRE, or whatever, who was the one who came to get me from reception, and we're just walking to the conference room. I learned so much there than in any other discovery session? You know, and then you use that to be—Corey: And there's not such thing as an easy sale either. And I think that gets overlooked a lot. Like, here at The Duckbill Group, if you bring us in on a consulting engagement to fix your AWS bill, you will turn a profit on that engagement. That has always been true. And we are quite literally selling money.It is effectively one of the easiest possible sales you can make; it is incredibly easy to calculate out what the ROI looks like on any of these things, and it's great, and we still have a full-on enterprise sales force because that is what it takes to wind up getting deals done when you're selling business-to-business. These are not selling t-shirts to the masses. It is a nuanced field, and honestly, when I'm interviewing people, one of the easiest ways for me to discount someone as a potential hire is that they start talking smack about sales because it is clear, first, they lack empathy, and secondly, they don't understand what sales does.Matty: One of the things that I think people who are not connected with it don't understand that again, back to Corey's point about because selling is hard, and selling internally is hard. So, this is the thing. So, you can have a champion inside your prospect who's, like, “I'm all about hiring Duckbill.” But they have to convince other people. So, what are salespeople really good at doing? They're really good at helping you build your business case to be able to get your thing that you want.Corey: How to turn your champion into an effective advocate for the thing that's going to make their job easier because they're not the person that signs off on it.Matty: And they're not the expert. Like, this used to happen when I was at Chef and I would have a customer who was like, “Okay.” They go and buy a bunch of licenses, and they're like, “Well, it didn't get deployed.” And we're like, “Well, how can we help you?” And they're like, “Well, no, it's just internal stuff. We got to convince people or whatever.”And I was like, “So, what you need to do is what you're telling me, what you need to do is sell Chef, right?” “Uh-huh.” There is nobody on this planet better at selling Chef than Chef. So, that's where that comes in because again, that's how everybody wins. So anyway, I went there because I was getting paid like a salesperson.Also, I one thing I wanted to touch on. So, you're right, usually, public sector is not seen as the most cutting edge. One of the things that's interesting at Red Hat, especially on the sales side—and friends of mine who are working on the commercial side may disagree with this, but it's generally not been true—what they call NAPS, so the North America Public Sector, I used to say I was a NAPS specialist, which sounded awesome. Because that was my title, I was NAPS specialist; I specialized in NAPS—is actually—Corey: Your status in the internal messaging system should always be sleeping at that point, why not?Matty: Sleeping. Yeah. But it's sort of known that actually the kind of emergent tech group and sales inside of the public sector, inside Red Hat, is very innovative compared to other ones. So, a lot of stuff was created there. So, it was we were doing something around a transformation office that wasn't being done in the same way anywhere else, so it was very exciting.So, I—also was the opportunity to go and work with people like Andrew Clay Shafer and John Willis and people that were—you know, it was all the people I was going to get to work with. So, that got me excited to be there. And then Covid happened, and I got news for you. Like, my job was to have challenging conversations with people about how they should do work differently. It's pretty easy to tune somebody out on the Zoom, it's a lot harder to tune somebody out when they're challenging you in a room.So, it was very hard to do this job during Covid, so our team really kind of disbanded towards the end of the year. I was really on the fence to join in the first place, and the person who was referring me to come work on the team who wanted to convince me said, you know, “What's holding you back?” And I said, “Well, it's not”—I said, “I really like developer advocacy. I like DevRel. That's not this job.” And he said, “Hey. Come try this for a year, and… if it turns out you didn't like it or wasn't for you, then go back and do DevRel.”And so that's sort of what happened. And I have seen though I am much happier in a smaller organization that's creating—you know, like, I like to feel my impact. I think everybody should spend some time in a large org because if you're going to be working with other people—right, you know what I mean—especially if you're a vendor, if you work on the vendor side like I do and stuff, Corey, you and I've talked before about background and doing developer advocacy, and I always say that, like, I do DevRel on easy mode because it's very easy for me to have empathy for my prospects and community because I did the job for 20 years. It's not impossible to be effective doing this job if you haven't literally done it. It's just that much harder. So, I [crosstalk 00:15:04]—Corey: It's a lot harder. And there's a credibility question and the rest. Yeah.Matty: I do this on easy mode. I can sit there and I can say, “Yes, I feel your pain. I literally did it for 20 years.”Corey: And you're at a point, too, let's be clear here, that you have a gravitas to you. I use you as my default example when I talk about, like, the expression of DevRel in that if you—like back when you were at PagerDuty, which I guess dates the reference a bit, but it was, okay. If you sit down and say you're doing on-call wrong, now I've been around this industry at that point 15 years or so, and I'm pretty sure I'm not. But if you're going to say that you have already got my attention in a constructive way, not in a, “Well, let me just tear this apart.” It's, no, no. I'm about to learn something by whatever it is you're about to say. And it's very hard to have that level of credibility without having done the role.Matty: That's true. Without doing it in that way. I mean, this is [crosstalk 00:15:59]—Corey: In the practitioner way of practicing the thing for which you are advocating. Like, someone telling me that I'm doing on-call wrong, who has never themselves been in a role where they themselves were on call is a little lacking in the authenticity department. It's not impossible and it can't be overcome.Matty: And you have to do it in a different way, right?Corey: Yes.Matty: And this goes back to another thing that I say a lot—my pithy Stratton quote is, “DevRel contains multitudes,” right? So, this is one of the things that we ran into, like, when we're building out our advocacy team at PagerDuty, it was seeing sort of my boss was an amazing dude and everything like that. I love him, but like, we don't scale horizontally. Our team was made up of enough of different kinds of people that, like, the way that I was able to do it because I had a certain experience, you couldn't expect that out of another one of my teammates because they actually had a different way of doing it that was just as effective, but in a different way because they have a different background, they have a different—so that's—Corey: And there's so many ways to do DevRel. Oh, yeah. Like, I'm going to call it my own bias here where when I think about DevRel, I think about it through a lens of the way I approach things, and when I give conference talks, of how I present myself, and the rest. And my approach would absolutely be aligned with what I just described, “So, you're doing AWS billing wrong.” And based upon who I am, and what I do, I can make that claim with some credibility.If I were relatively new to the industry and giving a talk about AWS billing, I would not lead that way because it does not present nearly as well, and it's going to call into question a whole bunch of skepticism. I would instead approach it as, “Here are some interesting facets about AWS billing that you may or may not be aware of.” There are different ways to approach it. Let's also be clear that it's not just conference talks; it can be blog posts, it can be documentation, it can be writing sample code, it can be Twitter, it could be TikTok of all things. There are so many ways to communicate with an audience, and your audience is wherever you happen to find them.Ideally, not in line at the Starbucks harassing the poor person in front who's just trying to order their coffee, but you know, as long as it's all consensual, talk to people who are interested in this stuff, wherever they happen to be.Matty: I think that's a really important statement you said there towards the end, which is meet people where they are, whether that's where you want them to be or not. And this comes up, it's interesting because one of the things—I'm a big believer in repurposing of content, and that's just partially because of effectiveness, but it's like, hey, if I give a talk, I should make that a blog post, I should make it a video, I should do a code example. And it's not so much because then I can hit all my OKRs with my boss.—I mean, that's part of it, right?—but not everybody likes the same kind of content.You know, there are people who really like videos, and there are people who are like, “I don't want to learn from a video at all.” And there's two ways you can approach that. One is you can say, “You're wrong. Videos are better. You should watch all my videos.” And take a guess about how well that's going to work with them getting your information or say, “I'll meet you where you are.”And I learned this even well before doing DevRel when I just thought about internal communication at an organization I was at when I was at Apartments.com and I was like, how do we get information? And you can't just say, like, well, we have this email we send to everybody. Well, everybody doesn't read email, right? So, it could be, maybe some people like RSS feeds, they want to capture it there. And the example I always gave was the most effective way that I ever saw that information was communicated inside our organization was signs in the restroom.Corey: Oh, yeah. That's a well-renowned way of doing it. That I think that Google pioneered this for a while. They had these all these things up about interesting things going on inside the—Matty: Oh—Corey: —company, about the way some systems worked—Matty: —I was at Google office and using the restroom, and I was standing there, and right in front of me with a whole good practice on cross-site scripting vulnerabilities. I guarantee they probably sent that email to everybody, it's probably been in meetings, and the people who saw it, [unintelligible 00:19:53] they saw it in the restroom.Corey: Now, of course, I'm sure they probably sell ads on those sheets, but okay.Matty: Yeah. You know, a little bit of that. When I was at Apartments.com, the floor that I worked on, the main restroom I used was a shared restroom with another office, which meant corporate never put anything up in there, and there was actually a fair amount of stuff that I didn't know about because I ignored it everywhere else and [unintelligible 00:20:14] anyway. So, the point is, back—if you will do work in person, which who is doing that anymore and why bother?—your most effective way to communicate. So, if you can figure out how to do DevRel in signs in a restroom at a conference—ohh, conferences should sell sponsorship of restroom signs.Corey: The jokes write themselves and almost certainly violate the code of conduct of at least four different [unintelligible 00:20:38], but it works. It works.Matty: [laugh]. We'll take those to Twitter.Corey: You've been around the industry for a while. You are one of the cohosts of the Arrested DevOps podcast; you've been instrumental in organizing a number of DevOps Days… or Devs-Ops days, however you want to mis-pluralize that is fine by me; roll with it. Ant—Matty: We argue more about the capitalization than the pluralization.Corey: Very fair. I want to talk to you a little bit of how the DevOps movement slash community slash role has evolved. For a long time now, it's been, “Great. So, where are the DevOps people sitting?” And then when you hear the shouted response of, “It's not a job. It's a culture,” good work. You found them. Now, you can go talk to them and all. What has changed over the past few years in the world of DevOps?Matty: So, I am fond of saying you can't buy DevOps, but I can sell it to you.Corey: Oh, absolutely. You're an exemplary DevOps salesman.Matty: Yeah. So, what happened? When we think back across the decade-plus, you know, back since 2009, one of the things I think that's interesting is, when we look at things like DevSecOps, or the other portmanteaus that are being created. It's a little bit like that meme, right, with the astronaut: “Wait. You mean, it's been DevSecOps all along?” You know, it's, “Yes, always has.”That's the thing. Like, for those who don't know, Andrew Clay Shafer is best known as coining the term. And I love Andrew, but wow, is it the worst name in the world for what we're talking about. Because it makes us all think that it's only about development and operations. And it's always been about cross-functional across all of those things. And if it helps us to give it a different name, great.Corey: It's replacing dysfunction with cross-function.Matty: Yes. There we go. That's DevOps right there. That's the best definition of DevOps I've heard. You heard it here.Corey: That one coins a phrase, in case you wondered.Matty: So, we still use the term CALMS to say what is about: It's about Culture, Automation, Lean, Measurement, and Sharing. That's held up for a reason. For something that was scrawled on a napkin in 2010, there's a reason we still talk that way. It sounds like we talk about culture more than anything else, and it's not because it's more important. It's because it's the one that we have to scream from the rooftops.You don't have to convince engineers to play with automation tools; they're going to do it. That's fine, right? So, they're all equal. Now, that said, what's changed is we have definitely found DevOps to feel a lot more that it's about automation. It's about the technology. We've veered away from the people to your statement about, like, “Oh, it's a culture, not a ti”—well, it's all of these things.Corey: This episode is sponsored by our friends at Oracle Cloud. 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Visit snark.cloud/oci-free that's snark.cloud/oci-free.Corey: Well, one thing I do want to call out because the whole point of having you on the show, of course, is to embarrass you with proof-positive, for example, that you are in fact, a good person at heart despite, you know, your dubious friendship with people like me, is we both used to be adamant about the idea of DevOps is not a role, not a job title, and we both stopped, but for different reasons. The reason that I stopped was that I took a job as the director of DevOps at a company because I was trying to solve about five or six different things that were important for me to negotiate for, and job title did not make the cut of impactful changes. You had a far less self-serving reason for no longer picking that particular fight. What was it?Matty: [laugh]. I do want to call out one of my favorite jokes which is not supposed to be gatekeeping, but it's making fun of Corey so it's okay—Corey: Hmm.Matty: —Nathan Harvey said years ago, and it was actually I think, intended as a shot at our friend Pete Cheslock, who also has had the title of director of DevOps, which said, “The only DevOps tool is a person that calls themselves director of DevOps.”Corey: Oh, absolutely. It's super lucrative. I was really insulted by that and cried all the way to the bank.Matty: Uh-huh. Now, I'll tell you there's two reasons that I've changed my tune on—you know, I used to say it's not a tool, title, or team. I still will agree that it's not a tool. The title and team—and the reason for that is twofold, and neither of which are self-serving other than I don't want people to think I'm a jerk. The first reason that deviated me from a little bit was again, to go back to your friend and mine, Pete Cheslock, he gave a talk, I don't remember where it was, but he made the point where he said, “You look at it, the title ‘DevOps engineer' is a 30 to 35% pay bump, so it's like, I don't care what you call yourself. Go get paid.” So, that's that.Corey: Yes.Matty: So, first of all, I was like cool—Corey: J. Paul Reed did a whole talk-pay thing that shined a light on that.Matty: Absolutely. The one that I think is more empathetic and probably was… is maybe a little more important—or equally so—Ian Coldwater has pointed out before, and this really resonated with me, is that when we get on Twitter and are like, “Oh, my God. DevOps engineer is not a real title, blah, blah, blah.” The people that hear that are the people who have that title. They did not give themselves that title. It's very exclusionary, and all that will happen out of that is it doesn't eff—Corey: “I'm going to go quit my job and not be able to make rent this month.” “Why?” “Because Twitter said that my job title was bad.”Matty: Yeah.Corey: All the reasons to quit a job, I promise you job title is not one of them. Unless it is something horrifying, as into the territory of discriminating or belittling. There are always exceptions to every rule, but by and large, “That's a ridiculous job title,” is not the reason to quit a job. Says the self-proclaimed chief cloud economist.Matty: Totally yeah. I mean, like, you know what is very similar? There's a meme about, like, every time people want to make fun of a political figure or something and they'll make fun of them being overweight, or any kind of thing, and the meme is like, the only people who hear that are your friends that have a similar condition, not the actual person you're making fun of, so all you're doing there is hurting people who… so that's a similar thing.Now, I will say—and I think you and I might disagree about this a little bit, so that'll be fine—Corey: I hope so.Matty: So, when I hear—and actually the title doesn't do this, for me; it's actually very specifically a DevOps team. When people say, “We have a DevOps team.” This is not a perfect analogy when I say it's a code smell; I call it an organizational smell. And what I mean by that—it's not as bad as a code smell—what it does is it makes me ask more questions. If it's relevant to me to ask questions. It might be none of my damn business. If you tweet that I'm on the DevOps team, I'm not going to come into your mentions and start questioning your existence, but—Corey: Oh please, I have way better personal attacks than that.Matty: Oh, yeah. But if I'm working with you and we're working on that, or we're having a conversation, and it comes up that you have a team called DevOps Team, I'm going to ask questions because that could be, okay or it could be, [sigh] I want to use the word dangerous lightly; it's not, but like, counter-effective. And the reason for that is if the DevOps team is the one who does all your automation and you haven't really enabled other squads and all you've done is move a silo around, doesn't make you a bad person, but that's not the most effective way you could be. So, it makes me start to ask questions, right? But sometimes DevOps teams are people who lead in the organization, they are empowerment teams, maybe they run dojo, maybe they are subject matter experts that help.As long as there are good bridges still being built, it's not bad, right? So, it just—again, it raises questions. It's not inherently wrong. I am sure that… Pulumi where wo—actually, many of the tools I've worked with have been called DevOps tools; I will still tell you there's no tool that gives you DevOps, right? You can't—Corey: But when other people—like, read as ‘buyers'—refer to you as the ‘DevOps tool company,' well, you can be right or you can make a sale, in some cases.Matty: [laugh]. Yeah, I'm not going to tell you—Corey: On some level, you have to meet people where they are, and this is a part of that. I say that in full sincerity. Same story with the idea of culture. I hear this question all the time, “How do we wind up making all of our engineers aware of AWS billing issues?” And to a point, you should have understanding that when you turn something on it runs forever, bigger things cost more than smaller things, but the knowledge fits on an index card.You shouldn't have every engineer wanting to—or needing to—become deep experts in this space. Having a centralized team that specializes in that, at a sufficient level of org size and maturity, makes an awful lot of sense, and they can float around. But yeah, having the AWS bill team, in some cases is the right answer and others it's the complete wrong answer, and it really does depend. I think the way that we solve this problem, authoritatively, is a way that neither you nor I can argue with it because the only source for authoritative DevOps answers is from the source itself, and that is, of course, Emily Freeman, whose treatise on the subject, DevOps for Dummies, despite the weird title, is absolutely fantastic work that gives insight into all of this. And are you prepared to tell her she's wrong? Because I'm certainly not.Matty: Well, there are plenty of people who will. As we know.Corey: Yes. And we call them shitheads if we're being perfectly honest with you.Matty: Yeah. [laugh].Corey: The internet what a ple—no, Emily is an absolute treasure in the space and I'm continuing to watch her meteoric rise with nothing other than pure admiration. It is just spectacular to see her succeed.Matty: I could not agree more. This is something I struggle with a little bit. I don't think Emily would mind me saying it this way. This is the thing where you don't want to sound condescending, but I always love when I look at people and it's not—it's going to come off a little bit about, like, “I knew them when,” and it's not like I was a Corey Quinn fan before he went pop, but I love to see and remember where we all came from, and it's true of myself and it's true of other people, but that's one of my favorite things is I love to see my friends succeed.Corey, I love to see what you've done. Like, I think back to when we knew each other. I'm not saying you weren't successful, but it's funny, this [unintelligible 00:30:08] sounds a little condescending to be like, oh, I'm so proud of you, but I am. And I'm impressed. It's great to see.And Emily's another example. Like, I remember when I first met Emily, and not like I was any big deal, either, but it's like, everybody comes from somewhere, right? Like Jacquie Grindrod who just recently left Hashi, I remember when she started to get into DevRel and I was talking to her because she's like, “I may be thinking I want to do this thing.” And you look and you see these people. And it's not supposed to be like, “Oh, I remember when you were like the cute little baby DevRel.” It's not like that.And it's like, it's just impressive to see—and not even impressive. It's you like to see people who do good work and have a good heart and want to help people grow and be successful. And I'll tell you something, here—we're going to get real for a second—you can be jealous of them. It's okay. And I'm going to be honest, there are times that—Emily and Corey are both good friends of mine, and there are times that I'm like, “Wow. I'm a little jealous of you. Sometimes I'm a lot jealous of you. Sometimes I'm not at all.” So, I'm telling everybody, it's okay to be jealous. [laugh].Corey: I agree with the sentiment that I changed the word ‘envious' because envy is one of those, like—Matty: Okay.Corey: —“I want that, too,” whereas jealousy is a lot more a shade of, “I want to have it and I don't want them to.” And I don't believe that's the direction you're heading in. [laugh].Matty: No. Thank you. No, you're exactly right. Envy is the better one yeah because it's never—Corey: Now, I recently learned the distinction there by getting very wrong and saying things I didn't intend to imply, which is why I bring it up. Again, let my mistake be something others can learn from. Sometimes the best purpose I can serve in this industry is as a counter-example.Matty: Example. I was going to say, you know, just for everybody, I remember at the beginning, you know, Corey said, “Maybe we'll learn something.” I'm like, I guess that's what we learned [laugh] is the difference between envy and jealousy.Corey: Yeah.Matty: [unintelligible 00:31:50] gotta say, you know, it took us half an hour to get there. But you know.Corey: No no. And I appreciate your friendship throughout the years. Like, you were one of those people that has been something of a guiding star, where it's, sometimes I get it right, sometimes I get it wrong, and you've always been someone who has been very willing to share which side of the divide you think I'm on with anything that I've done. And for lack of a better term, you knew me before I basically bought ink by the barrel. And back when I was just the conference speaker that had to follow one of your ridiculous talks, like, “Oh, God. Those are big shoes to fill. I'd better learn how to give a conference talk.” So, most of what I become is your fault. But I do want to thank you for your guidance over the years on these things.Matty: Can we tell the real story about how I claim ownership of The Duckbill Group?Corey: By all means, take it away.Matty: Oh, okay. So, [[laugh]] I honestly still think that I should have a part ownership in The Duckbill Group because for those of you who don't know, Corey mentioned that I had worked at PagerDuty, and actually that job came down between the two of us and Corey didn't get it. And then went and started his own company and became famous and amazing. So really, it's because of me is what I'm trying to get at. I—Corey: To be fair, they made the right hire. Which one of us do you think makes the better employee, let's be very clear?Matty: [laugh].Corey: And yeah, I am thrilled to deal in you in on ownership of The Duckbill Group because the way we're structured, you cannot have ownership without also assuming liability. So yeah—Matty: [laugh].Corey: I would love to dump legal responsibility for my shenanigans on someone else. Come on in. Yeah, there's always a cutting edge to everything else. But no, you're right. I always wonder what would have happened if that decision had gone differently.And I'm very glad it played out the way that it did. You were the right hire for the company in a way that I never would have been. But I would have given it a good try for a while before they begrudgingly had to fire me or I sensed the axe was coming and left on my own. That is the nature of me as an employee. You have a very different perspective because you're good at things that I'm terrible at.Matty: And vice versa. It was interesting. You just talked about, like, how would things go different? So I—yesterday—just recorded—I don't know when it's going to come out—I was on a podcast called 8 Bits—so it's 8bits.tv—and it's really a show about people's journey through tech.And what was interesting that came out of that conversation was, first of all, how much of how I got to where I am is because of spite. Which you're going to have to go back and listen to the episode to hear the whole story of all the spite. But we did talk about, like, those junction points that happen that seem innocuous. And it's like, I made this one choice that wasn't even necessarily a choice and you follow all the forking logic that gets you to, Corey, you and I are sitting here on a podcast right now. How many decisions that weren't even decisions? There's the alternate universe where this doesn't happen where this doesn't exist, right?Corey: It's weird how this stuff all works. Years before I'd met either one of you, you videotaped my wife's law school musical and burned it to CD. We found that out when you were here over dinner one night.Matty: That was my favorite thing.Corey: It was surreal.Matty: Yeah, I was at dinner with Corey and his wife and we got into a conversation about that she had gone to law school in Chicago. And I was like, “Oh, funny thing. Like, I produced the video of the law school mu”—and she was like, “Wait, what was that?” And I couldn't even remember. I had to, like, dig back into, like, an old blog post. And was that and then yeah, and Bethany, like—Corey: She walks into the other room and comes back with a DVD that you burned, your handwriting on it.Matty: Yeah.Corey: Yeah.Matty: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. The world is small. Be nice to everybody.Corey: It never hurts. I want to thank you for taking time out of your day to basically tell stories once again. It's always good to talk to you. If people want to learn more about who you are, what you're up to, where's the best place they can find you.Matty: So, really the best place is Twitter. You know, so I'm at @mattstratton on Twitter. If you're not a Twitter person, that's okay. LinkedIn is not great for fi—I don't always remember to post stuff there. If you want to know about upcoming, you know, so if you go to speaking.mattstratton.com, that has all my previous talks, my upcoming talks, and things as hopefully we'll have more and more of that.And yeah, and every week, I stream on twitch.tv/Pulumi on Thursdays. And it's not webinars, it's not slick demos, it's just me screwing around and sometimes having fun people on, and sometimes just proving how little I know about coding. So yeah, good times. Thank you for having me on, again, Corey. It's always fun.Corey: Of course. Links to all that's going on in the [show notes 00:36:20]. And as always, it's a pleasure.Matty: Also, I will say, Corey, I'll give you the link to that 8bit.tv, if you want to put that in the [show notes 00:36:28]—Corey: Oh, of course, we will.Matty: —if people want to go and find that. Because I think it's similar, connected to what we talked about.Corey: Good. I look forward to listening to it myself. Mattie Stratton, staff developer advocate at Pulumi. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn and this is Screaming in the Cloud. If you've enjoyed this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, whereas if you've hated this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, along with a long angry comment detailing that DevOps is in fact a role and here's what it means, and then go ahead and describe a sysadmin.Corey: If your AWS bill keeps rising and your blood pressure is doing the same, then you need The Duckbill Group. We help companies fix their AWS bill by making it smaller and less horrifying. The Duckbill Group works for you, not AWS. We tailor recommendations to your business and we get to the point. Visit duckbillgroup.com to get started.Announcer: This has been a HumblePod production. Stay humble.

In our best show yet we have, Jessica Kerr aka @Jessitron who's a DevOps mastermind, Symmathecist, co-host of the Greater Than Code podcast and co-host of Arrested DevOps.

Matt Stratton is a transformation specialist at Red Hat, where he helps public sector organizations succeed in their digital transformation initiatives. Previously, he worked as a DevOps advocate at PagerDuty, a customer architect at Chef Software, a managing consultant at 10th Magnitude, and an engineer lead at JPMorgan Chase, among other positions. He’s also the host of the Arrested DevOps podcast and the global co-chair of DevOpsDays. Join Corey and Matt as they talk about Matt’s decision to brand himself as Matt then Matty and now Matt again, how COVID-19 has changed DevRel and conferences in general, what it was like to run DevOpsDays Chicago online this year, why folks can’t just decide to move in-person events to the virtual world and expect great results, why a webinar with a Slack channel isn’t a virtual event, how virtual events are harder for sponsors, why Corey is happy he hasn’t gone to Las Vegas this year, how DevRel done right is a super effective sales strategy, how podcasts are the new medium for conversations with people who otherwise wouldn’t speak to you, the pros and cons of live talks and pre-recorded talks at virtual events, and more.

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Relevant to your interests Microsoft Teams vs. Zoom vs. Skype Does anyone really know what the deal is with this JEDI thing? - The Pentagon says it 'wishes to reconsider' the award to Microsoft of the $10 billion JEDI cloud computing contract (https://www.businessinsider.com.au/pentagon-reconsider-jedi-microsoft-amazon-web-services-2020-3?r=US&IR=T) HashiCorp - Vagrant sure is valuable! HashiCorp Scores $175M Funding Round, $5B Valuation (https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/hashicorp-scores-175m-funding-round-5b-valuation/2020/03/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=sdxcentral) Exclusive: DevOps unicorn HashiCorp could be valued at $5.25B in new round (https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/devops-company-hashicorp-seeks-525b-valuation-in-new-round) Rancher - EDGE, BABY! Rancher Labs Raises $40 Million Series D Round to Accelerate Growth of Its Kubernetes Management Platform (https://rancher.com/press/rancher-labs-raises-series-d-fundraising-to-accelerate-growth-of-kubernetes-management-platform) Platform9 Announces Freedom for Kubernetes Users with New, 'Freedom' and 'Growth' SaaS-Managed Kubernetes Plans (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/platform9-announces-freedom-for-kubernetes-users-with-new-freedom-and-growth-saas-managed-kubernetes-plans-301025164.html) npm is joining GitHub - The GitHub Blog (https://github.blog/2020-03-16-npm-is-joining-github/) Next Phase Montage (https://blog.npmjs.org/post/612764866888007680/next-phase-montage?utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=84796364&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_EuORWSkYIHmS8nqMc0WCk8B2JPOcD3eOpqljJX0aaD_hQpOJ2QucYIFMw8Z8vsLz1_j2JZjRSHbvrbZVXqW2h80901EglStEJDlhLyQmH1NcjGSk&_hsmi=84796364) CNCF starts new artifact hub (https://devclass.com/2020/03/12/cncf-starts-new-artifact-hub/) - “pre-alpha stadium.” Using 6 Page and 2 Page Documents To Make Organizational Decisions (https://medium.com/@inowland/using-6-page-and-2-page-documents-to-make-organizational-decisions-3216badde909) Book review: The Real Deal - technology deal making in the 2020's (https://diginomica.com/book-review-real-deal-technology-deal-making-2020s) Apple announces online-only WWDC 2020 due to coronavirus spread (https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/13/21175785/wwdc-2020-online-only-apple-keynote-announced-coronavirus) Righting a Wrong: IBM is a Leader in the Cloud... (http://blog.enterprisemanagement.com/righting-a-wrong-ibm-is-a-leader-in-the-cloud) Trump Surprised Google With a Bogus Coronavirus Site Claim (https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-donald-trump-google-website/) Google: G Suite now has 2 billion users (https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-g-suite-now-has-2-billion-users/) Coronavirus quarantine enforced for all people entering Australia, lockdowns on the table (https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-15/coronavirus-covid19-self-isolation-announced-for-australia/12057772?pfmredir=sm) Coronavirus Will Change How We Shop, Travel and Work for Years (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-13/coronavirus-will-change-how-we-shop-travel-and-work-for-years) Microsoft Teams goes down just as Europe logs on to work remotely (https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/16/21181300/microsoft-teams-down-outage-europe-remote-working-coronavirus?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter) NSW govt pledges to introduce mandatory data breach reporting (https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nsw-govt-pledges-to-introduce-mandatory-data-breach-reporting-539109) What’s in a Name? How Pivotal’s Products Are Being Renamed as Part of VMware Tanzu (https://tanzu.vmware.com/content/blog/pivotal-platform-vmware-tanzu) Announcing OpenShift Serverless 1.5.0 Tech Preview - A sneak peek of our GA (https://blog.openshift.com/announcing-openshift-serverless-1-5-0-tech-preview-a-sneak-peek-of-our-ga/) Google indefinitely delays the digital version of its Cloud Next conference (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/3/17/21183701/google-cloud-next-delay-indefinitely-coronavirus-digital-event-postponed) Microsoft starts a grand unification attempt with .NET 5 (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/17/dotnet_5_preview_1/) Apple unveils new iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support in iPadOS (https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/03/apple-unveils-new-ipad-pro-with-lidar-scanner-and-trackpad-support-in-ipados/) Spectro Cloud Launches With $7.5 Million to Help Enterprises Realize the Promise of Kubernetes (https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/03/17/2002043/0/en/Spectro-Cloud-Launches-With-7-5-Million-to-Help-Enterprises-Realize-the-Promise-of-Kubernetes.html) Not just video-conferencing apps taking a dive: IBM Cloud hit by partial Tuesday outage (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/17/ibm_cloud_tuesday_partial_outage/) Ansible DevOps comes to the mainframe (https://www.zdnet.com/article/ansible-devops-comes-to-the-mainframe/) Mainframe Developers Get Boost From BMC Acquisition Of Compuware (https://go.forrester.com/blogs/mainframe-developers-get-boost-from-bmc-acquisition-of-compuware/) Non Sense How Much Toilet Paper?! The Coronavirus Toilet Paper Calculator (https://howmuchtoiletpaper.com/) You can now get alcohol delivered with your food when you order from Texas restaurants, Gov. Abbott says (https://www.click2houston.com/news/politics/2020/03/19/you-can-get-alcohol-delivered-with-your-food-when-you-order-from-texas-restaurants-gov-abbott-says/) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: Subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. DevOpsDays Austin 2020 — Cancelled or Postponed. (https://twitter.com/DoDAustin/status/1240645494440894465?s=20) ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) June 2, All Digital. (https://www.chefconf.io/) Dev (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)O (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ps (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)D (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ays Minneapolis, (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/) August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration. THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells®. SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Brandon: Devs (https://www.fxnetworks.com/news/devs/) on FX/Hulu . A mind-bending, reality-warping conversation with John Higgs (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1081584611?i=1000448075759) Matt Ray: KLF: Chaos Magic Music Money (https://amzn.to/2vDZnpQ). Tim Hartford’s Cautionary Tales podcast (http://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/). Coté: Look Up. Outro: “They’ll work until the very last minute,” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmRv1De7Hjs&t=231s) Dune.

Self quarantining with half-baked bread Most of our time is spent discussing the joys of eating half-baked bread. We also discuss what a Tanzu is, kubernetes konspiracy theories, and Oxide the new private cloud hardware startup...wait, wut? Hey (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQDqRlMeJ4U)! Spring Live (https://connect.tanzu.vmware.com/Spring_Live_Q221.html) next week, March 19th starting at 9am California-time - 24 hours! Attend! Mood Board: Fresh Bread Talk I’ve mentioned this before You’re suppose to listen Hamthrax? A tall glass of ice-tea. The most Dutch thing ever. Half-baked bread. American’s tea innovation lead. Strong opinions loosely held is canceled. Relevant to your interests VMware If you run (VCF) VMware stuff, you can have kubernetes now. TAS/PAS will be moved to run on that sometime later - same stack as we’ve had at Pivotal is still, of course, alive and well. Interview with Pat Gelsinger on VMware (http://www.kbcmtech.com/podcasts/key10%20-%20Keynote%20-%20The%20Evolution%20of%20the%20Enterprise%20Stack%20-%20Pat%20Gelsinger.mp3) VMware Rejuvenates Once Again With Kubernetes Injection (https://www.nextplatform.com/2020/03/10/vmware-rejuvenates-once-again-with-kubernetes-injection/) VMWare KeyBanc Capital Markets Write Up (https://key2.bluematrix.com/docs/pdf/9dd430df-7e1e-43fd-a953-c00ce649c0bf.pdf) VMware Tanzu Service Mesh, built on VMware NSX is Now Available! (https://blogs.vmware.com/networkvirtualization/2020/03/vmware-tanzu-service-mesh-built-on-vmware-nsx-is-now-available.html/) Docker Docker Defines Roadmap with Developer-Focused API Integrations (https://thenewstack.io/docker-defines-roadmap-with-developer-focused-api-integrations/) Docker disguises itself as a development pipeline service as it stalks the IT world for its elusive target – profit (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/10/docker_development_pipeline_service/) AWS A Peek Into Graviton2: Amazon's Neoverse N1 Server Chip First Impressions (https://www.anandtech.com/show/15578/a-peek-into-the-physics-of-graivton2-amazons-neoverse-n1-server-chip-first-impressions) Bottlerocket – Open Source OS for Container Hosting | Amazon Web Services (https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/bottlerocket-open-source-os-for-container-hosting/) Amazon launches business selling automated checkout to retailers (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amazon-com-store-technology/amazon-launches-business-selling-automated-checkout-to-retailers-idUSKBN20W0OD?utm_source=Memberful&utm_campaign=bb2e2c1e3a-daily_update_2020_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d4c7fece27-bb2e2c1e3a-111062493) Kube Corner EngineerBetter/k8s-is-not-a-paas (https://github.com/EngineerBetter/k8s-is-not-a-paas/blob/master/README.md) Windows NT 4 into Kubernetes (https://twitter.com/MaartjeME/status/1236697317421580289) Managed Kubernetes Price Comparison (2020) (https://devopsdirective.com/posts/2020/03/managed-kubernetes-comparison/) HPE Plunges Into Red Hot Kubernetes Market (https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/hpe-plunges-into-red-hot-kubernetes-market) NVIDIA to Acquire SwiftStack (https://www.swiftstack.com/blog/2020/03/05/nvidia-to-acquire-swiftstack/) Landmark Computer Science Proof Cascades Through Physics and Math | Quanta Magazine (https://www.quantamagazine.org/landmark-computer-science-proof-cascades-through-physics-and-math-20200304/) Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey gets to keep his job — for now (https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/3/9/21171482/twitter-jack-dorsey-elliott-deal-jesse-cohn-silver-lake) Robinhood goes down again, (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/09/robinhood-app-down-again-during-another-historic-trading-day.html) Assessing ERP upgrades in the 21st century (https://diginomica.com/assessing-erp-upgrades-21st-century) Vista Equity mulls options for IT automation and security provider Infoblox (https://www.pehub.com/vista-equity-mulls-options-for-it-automation-and-security-provider-infoblox/) Popular VPN And Ad-Blocking Apps Are Secretly Harvesting User Data (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/vpn-and-ad-blocking-apps-sensor-tower) Before it sued Google for copying from Java, Oracle got rich copying IBM’s SQL (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/before-it-sued-google-for-copying-from-java-oracle-got-rich-copying-ibms-sql/) This startup now has millions in no-strings-attached money because one of Silicon Valley's most famous VC firms had to walk away from the deal (https://www.businessinsider.com/sequoia-capital-leaves-finix-payments-millions-2020-3) Australia sues Facebook for $529 billion. That's more than the government makes in a year. (https://mashable.com/article/facebook-australia-cambridge-analytica-sue-privacy-529-billion/) This little server startup wants to take on a horde of tech giants (https://www.protocol.com/oxide-computer-cloud-server) Who’s staying home because of COVID-19? (https://stayinghome.club/) Non Sense Airlines are burning thousands of gallons of fuel flying empty 'ghost' planes so they can keep their flight slots during the coronavirus outbreak (https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coronavirus-airlines-run-empty-ghost-flights-planes-passengers-outbreak-covid-2020-3?r=US&IR=T) What's in your wallet? A lot less interest, unless you notice this one word... 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SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Brandon: Save money and buy a subscription to NY Times via gift certificate (https://www.nytimes.com/subscription/gift) for yourself. Coté: treat yourself with a black Uber. Scott on Pivot (https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot) as strong opinions loosely held.

Coté probably messed up his math on the Thoma Bravo profit from Compuware. Maybe it's more like $5bn (https://buttondown.email/cote/archive/they-found-5-billion-in-the-couch/). But, obviously, he's just farting around with incomplete information. He apologies and will sit in the corner for awhile. For entertainment only! With the virus shutting down conferences and keeping people in the home office, we discuss the value of in-person conferences and how remote ones might could be better. Also, GKE’s kubernetes cluster pricing (and Amazon’s drop to match the price) gives us an anchoring point for pricing running a cluster. Coupled with the recent CNCF survey you could make an interesting stew. Finally, Coté tries to run some numbers to figure out how much Thoma Bravo profited from taking Compuware private. (Also, he always mispronounces it as Thom-oh Bravo.) Hey! If you want to understand VMware’s new strategy and portfolio around application development, tune into the March 10th webinar on the topic (https://www.vmware.com/app-modernization.html): register now (https://www.vmware.com/app-modernization.html)! Mood Board: The Hello Boss episode. You mean I gave my kids a lecture all for nothing? Shit the living room door. Espresso macchiato. Blue bonnet coffee. What am I missing out on? Sitting, trapped in your head. I’m hoping we realize no one needs to be working. Why blockchain is important for corn Containers and the mainframes, Too unqualified to speculate? This post-conference era You can’t do your dishes in the office Those poor developers: having to pay for things! $879/year per cluster helps someone keep their job. It’s always Monte Carlo simulations with you So adult. I’m trying Matt Ray. We IPO’d because we were running out of money, what a time to be alive. This week’s white guys talking about white guys. Relevant to your interests How Marc Benioff’s Vision for Salesforce’s Future Triggered Executive Shuffle (https://cloudwars.co/marc-benioff-executive-shuffle-keith-block-salesforce/) VMware exceeds $10B in sales in FY 2020 (https://www.zdnet.com/article/vmware-exceeds-10b-in-sales-in-fy-2020/) Cisco begins new round of layoffs (https://seekingalpha.com/news/3546902-cisco-begins-new-round-of-layoffs) How much money do SREs make? (https://www.gremlin.com/site-reliability-engineering/how-much-money-do-sres-make/) Coronavirus 2020 tech conference cancellations list (https://www.zdnet.com/article/coronavirus-2020-tech-conference-cancellations-list/) Google and Microsoft just canceled two conferences ahead of their major ones (https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/2/21162185/google-microsoft-io-2020-build-tech-conference-coronavirus) HP Enterprise suspends nearly all events (https://seekingalpha.com/news/3548025-hp-enterprise-suspends-nearly-all-events) Important OpenShift Commons Gathering Amsterdam 2020 Update: Shifts to Digital Conference – Red Hat OpenShift Blog (https://blog.openshift.com/important-openshift-commons-gathering-amsterdam-2020-update-shifts-to-digital-conference/) Google cancels its biggest annual event over coronavirus fears (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/tech/google-i-o-canceled-coronavirus/index.html) BMC to Acquire Compuware (https://newsroom.bmc.com/news-releases/news-release-details/bmc-acquire-compuware) Baron’s has a bunch of numbers: https://www.barrons.com/articles/bmc-backed-by-kkr-is-buying-compuware-in-biggest-deal-yet-51583264075 Probably sold for about $2bn. Selling about $650m of Dynatrace stock. Got several $100m’s in dividends from DT. Still owns 52% of DT ($9.294bn valuation, so $4.83bn asset in equity). Original purchase price: $2.5bn 2 + 0.65 + 0.150 + 9.294 = $12.09bn cash out, plus $4.83bn equity - $16.92bn profit on $2.5bn…?! Undated Forrester chart (https://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/252479530/Mainframe-software-market-shrinks-with-BMC-Compuware-deal) showing increasing mainframe spend. Agile software development is dead. Deal with it (https://siliconangle.com/2020/02/03/agile-software-development-dead-deal/). Coronavirus Updates: Epidemic Slows in China but Spreads Globally (https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEKgN5u7JvjHJHytxo42U6oMqFwgEKg8IACoHCAowjuuKAzCWrzwwt4QY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen) - Check out the Ali app angle Apple to pay up to $500 million to settle lawsuit over slow iPhones (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/apple-to-pay-up-to-500-million-to-settle-lawsuit-over-slow-iphones.html) Google makes Hangouts Meet features free in the wake of coronavirus (https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/03/google-makes-hangouts-meet-features-free-in-the-wake-of-coronavirus/) CNCF survey No lead-gen on the PDF (https://www.cncf.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/CNCF_Survey_Report.pdf)! CLASSY. Demographics: “September and October 2019 and received 1,337 responses.” 30% of respondents from orgs with 5,000+ employees. ??? “The top job functions were software architect (41%), DevOps manager (39%), and back-end developer (24%)” Most respondents from “Software,” “Technology,” and “Financial Services” - all the bleeding edge. Amazon is #1, Google probably #2. CI/CD (loosely applied) is at 40% to 50% - which is close Coté’s ongoing estimates (https://noti.st/cote/2ChRh3/the-blinking-cursor-or-kubernetes-for-developers-architects-other-people-who-arent-supposed-to-use-it#sp2hATg) (and, considering that most of the respondents are from tech and banks, if we’re cynical, probably less for the other industries). The jump in production is really quick, maybe (Page 5, “Use of Containers since 2016”? It took about 4 years for prod use to be broadly done (in Dec 17, prod reached 75% which matches test) Use of containers over time https://paper-attachments.dropbox.com/s_ED3FAAE6EB8DCA991BF78F6CB5BCF05A0BFA699799537BB76BD43F42093FDAC7_1583424884691_image.png Most figures like these (e.g., number of containers in production) would be a lot more interesting/useful if they were broken out by company size. E.g., larger companies probably use more containers in production, tech and banks probably have put containers in production earlier, also telcos - T-Mobile alone has 34,000 containers in production (https://www.altoros.com/blog/t-mobile-handles-1m-transactions-per-day-on-kubernetes/) (probably even more by now). Similarly, how many clusters are in production would be interesting to see by organization size. # of clusters in production https://paper-attachments.dropbox.com/s_ED3FAAE6EB8DCA991BF78F6CB5BCF05A0BFA699799537BB76BD43F42093FDAC7_1583426321342_image.png Challenges https://paper-attachments.dropbox.com/s_ED3FAAE6EB8DCA991BF78F6CB5BCF05A0BFA699799537BB76BD43F42093FDAC7_1583425630448_image.png Challenges are sort of interesting, as always. I don’t like “culture” as a broad category. That usually just means “people don’t do what I think they should do [and instead have their own ideas of what’s best].” However: obviously “security”…”complexity” is another broad category - and, boy, long-time SDT sponsors must love “monitoring” as a money-pot to go after! Side-note: so, “servishmesh” means (https://www.hashicorp.com/products/consul/) a registry to look-up how to connect to other pods/components in your kubes (like, JNDI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Naming_and_Directory_Interface)); getting the actual network connection to that other component; securing the network connection; load balancing (this term is getting way over-blown, I think?); and then doing the layer whatever networking to account for dynamically assigned IP addresses and stuff in kubernetes. Maybe, like microservices stuff like circuit breakers, or is that too far? Not that many people use their own serverless framework (10%), but 34% of those who do use knative. The “why you use kubernetes” chart (pg. 11) didn’t force people to rank enough: pretty much everyone agrees that All The Value-Props are great. Helm wins for packaging. Autoscaling https://paper-attachments.dropbox.com/s_ED3FAAE6EB8DCA991BF78F6CB5BCF05A0BFA699799537BB76BD43F42093FDAC7_1583426553765_image.png I don’t know enough about auto-scaling to say much, but it looks like most people don’t do auto-scaling unless it’s for purely stateless apps, which makes sense. The drop-off after that (queues, batch-jobs, stateless, and DB) seems to indicate that auto-scaling other stuff is difficult, untrusted. “nginx kept its lead this year as the top Kubernetes ingress provider (62%), followed again by HAProxy (22%)” - F5 got a good control-point on the kubernetes market for $670 million (https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/11/f5-acquires-nginx-for-670m-to-move-into-open-source-multi-cloud-services/), plus the entire rest of the nginx business. “40% of respondents get their info from Twitter” - humanity had a good run! Non Sense Public Enemy Fires Flavor Flav After Bernie Sanders Rally Spat (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/public-enemy-flavor-flav-bernie-sanders-960272/) SETI@home Search for Alien Life Project Shuts Down After 21 Years (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/seti-home-search-for-alien-life-project-shuts-down-after-21-years/) ## Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: Subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. KubeCon EU (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/) in Amsterdam, July/August, use code KCEUSDP15 for 15% off. VMware/Tanzu lurnin' workshop (https://kccnceu20.sched.com/event/ZJZE) DevOpsDays Austin 2020 (https://devopsdays.org/events/2020-austin/welcome/) May 4th and 5th. ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) in Seattle June 1-4. Dev (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)O (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ps (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)D (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ays Minneapolis, (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/) August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration. THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells®. SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). 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Recommendations Brandon: Dark Towers (https://www.audible.com/pd/Dark-Towers-Audiobook/0062878840?ref=a_author_Da_c19_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=1ae0e65e-ad09-4aa7-aa73-772cefb1b5e1&pf_rd_r=24SC19H1SFVCKQYH01C5) Press Box Pod (https://www.theringer.com/the-press-box) - Strain pun headline segment Tasty Meats Paul’s Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/paulczar/) Matt: SelfControl.app (https://selfcontrolapp.com/) Humble Bundle Cybersecurity 2020 (https://www.humblebundle.com/books/cybersecurity-2020-wiley-books?partner=8443) Coté: First 30% of the first Jack Reacher book, The Killing Floor (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40105393-killing-floor). Also, see other books Matt Yglesias is reading (https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/5255248-matthew-yglesias). Cover art from Marcingietorigie in wikicommons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caff%C3%A8_Espresso_Macchiato_Schiumato.jpg).

Everyone loves white papers Are white papers a force for good or evil? We discuss. Also, the $20,000 AMI and Coté’s current kubernetes comprehension. Mood board: “A Quote from the episode…” Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are. “I’m happy to talk about Coronavirus.” We could always go to ‘Paranoid Matt Corner’ Will Coté get to stay in Amsterdam this Spring? Crank up the YouTube Nobody’s gonna be traveling anymore anyway Cote’s gonna be our Ed McMahon now Your whitepaper should have an elevator pitch Garbage trash proposals Uniquely sourced Why are we still doing this? They’re busy running their business. “Can you write me a business case.” PDFs a Plenty The White Paper Album Speaking of BS phrases The white paper to take down white papers “Walking into the door feeling” The AWS Super Inspect tool, or whatever. Maybe it’ll all work this time Brandon. The Idempope. Relevant to your interests Why Do Corporations Speak the Way They Do? (https://www.vulture.com/2020/02/spread-of-corporate-speak.html) - related, from 2006 (http://econobonics.blogspot.com/). The secret sauce graphics (http://radar.oreilly.com/2007/10/operations-is-a-competitive-ad.html), 2007. Andrew Shafer’s 2010 update (http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/08/operations-as-the-secret-sauce.html). White papers (best one ever (https://www.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Chef-Standard-Bank-WhitePaper.pdf): “Standard Bank: Our DevOps Journey,” Chef) Collateral. Sales tools. Case studies. Thought-leadership/definition. Education. Guidance (vs. Gartner Burton papers). Writing down chunks of sales-hustle lore. How it effects the business. Have opinions. Millennials Want Credible Digital Content — So Give It To Them! (https://twitter.com/cote/status/1232545180013731840) Amazon AMI thing. Salesforce secures $1.3B+ deal for Vlocity (https://pitchbook.com/newsletter/salesforce-secures-13b-deal-for-vlocity), also co-CEO left (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/keith-block-steps-down-as-salesforce-co-ceo-marc-benioff-is-chair-and-ceo-301011142.html) (what’s up with two CEOs?) VMware, Tanzu Signal signal - Matt’s paranoid security. The Tech Revolt Finally Comes for Oracle (https://gizmodo.com/oracle-ceos-trump-fundraiser-incites-employee-work-stop-1841791696) Morgan Stanley Is Buying E*Trade, Betting on Littler Customers (https://www.wsj.com/articles/morgan-stanley-is-buying-e-trade-betting-on-littler-customers-11582201440) Signal Is Finally Bringing Its Secure Messaging to the Masses (https://www.wired.com/story/signal-encrypted-messaging-features-mainstream/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioscodebook&stream=technology) Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fightNonsense (https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-login-7b0cc14c-ef6d-4211-813f-6a2400e1869b.html?chunk=0&utm_term=emshare#story0) Google Cloud President Tariq Shaukat Vacating His Role (https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/google-cloud-president-tariq-shaukat-vacating-his-role) DigitalOcean raises $100M in debt as it scales toward revenue of $300M, profitability (https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/20/digitalocean-raises-100m-in-debt-as-it-scales-towards-revenue-of-300m-profitability/) HP adopts poison pill after Xerox's buyout attempts (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hp-m-a-xerox-hlngs/hp-adopts-poison-pill-after-xeroxs-buyout-attempts-idUSKBN20E2XZ) VMware Details its Tanzu/Kubernetes Strategy After Pivotal Merger (https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/02/vmware-pivotal-tanzu-merger/) Oracle's Allies Against Google Include Scott McNealy and America's Justice Department - Slashdot (https://developers.slashdot.org/story/20/02/23/2043239/oracles-allies-against-google-include-scott-mcnealy-and-americas-justice-department) Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals (https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-plots-course-to-overtake-cloud-rivals-11582383601) Apple Weighs Letting Users Switch Default iPhone Apps to Rivals (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-20/apple-weighs-loosening-restrictions-on-rival-iphone-music-apps?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioslogin&stream=top) The Ars Technica semi-scientific guide to Wi-Fi Access Point placement (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/02/the-ars-technica-semi-scientific-guide-to-wi-fi-access-point-placement/) Google Cloud beefs up Chronicle, reCaptcha Enterprise and Web Risk API hit general availability (https://venturebeat.com/2020/02/24/google-cloud-beefs-up-chronicle-recaptcha-enterprise-and-web-risk-api-hit-general-availability/) When Speakers are Ears (https://moniotrlab.ccis.neu.edu/smart-speakers-study/) Why Those Gaps in Kubernetes Are Really a Good Thing (https://thenewstack.io/why-those-gaps-in-kubernetes-are-really-a-good-thing/) Red Hat slips through Platform 16 to OpenStack wizarding world, says customers still want to run their own cloud (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/24/redhat_launches_openstack_16/) Google Jumps to #4 on Cloud Wars Top 10 Behind #1 Microsoft, #2 AWS, #3 Salesforce (https://cloudwars.co/google-jumps-4-cloud-wars-top-10/) MWC now stands for Mighty Wallet Crusher? Smaller firms counting the cost after mobile industry event scrapped (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/25/what_mwcs_cancellation_means_for_smaller_firms/) Firefox now encrypts domain name requests by default in the US (https://www.engadget.com/2020/02/25/firefox-dns-over-https-default-us/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAANMCttaVUn7q3tSVj58X3_a_3l3AceIJjxzxOTi3Psv6gBOVQOP7rmb7sk0yKtKUQ8RpzQMfjabXr4phF509Bakuyw_5nqibjt0bQRgxIOXvjKD5FAHQM7tJyDZtG6JN-z9ADZ1r0oZGY1lzgtPs8bYXxmHaAUqns7p1CoeSqeK) Google Cloud CEO Called Oracle Cloud a 'Disgrace' (https://slashdot.org/story/367584) Keith Block Steps Down as Salesforce Co-CEO; Marc Benioff is Chair and CEO (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/keith-block-steps-down-as-salesforce-co-ceo-marc-benioff-is-chair-and-ceo-301011142.html) Non Sense Report: Austin Ranks No. 1 in the Nation for Jobs (https://www.americaninno.com/austin/inno-news/report-austin-ranks-no-1-in-the-nation-for-jobs/) The makers of Jif peanut butter team up with Giphy to try to settle the GIF/Jif debate once and for all (https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/2/25/21147389/jif-peanut-butter-giphy-settle-gif-pronunciation-debate) Costco’s Famous Hot Dog Could Cost You $60 (https://slickdeals.net/article/news/costco-food-courts-deals-and-news/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=595532-Adobe%20Newsletter%20DM15903%20-%202020-02-25%2009%3A50%3A05&utm_source=29000-adobe_editorial_content&utm_term=cmsarticle&sdxt00=19473079) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: Subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). 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VMware/Tanzu lurnin' workshop (https://kccnceu20.sched.com/event/ZJZE) DevOpsDays Austin 2020 (https://devopsdays.org/events/2020-austin/welcome/) May 4th and 5th ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) in Seattle June 1-4 Dev (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)O (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ps (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)D (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ays Minneapolis, (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/) August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells, WI. Call for Counselors (https://www.thatconference.com/wi/call-for-counselors) (Speakers) open until March 1st. Listener Talk Ryan Kitchens (https://twitter.com/this_hits_home) talk “The Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxdMMLPBMnw&list=WL&index=8&t=0s)a (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxdMMLPBMnw&list=WL&index=8&t=0s)t of It (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxdMMLPBMnw&list=WL&index=8&t=0s).” SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Brandon: Gringo: The Dangerous Life of John McAfee (https://www.netflix.com/title/80148180) on Netflix (https://www.netflix.com/title/80148180). Matt: Harry Potter & The Cursed Child (https://www.harrypottertheplay.com/). Coté: Hild (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17332243-hild). SpringOne Platform 2019 CFP (https://springone.io/cfp). My book, The Business Bottleneck (https://cote.io/books/), is out for free (https://cote.io/books/). Outro: “Hey Now.” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AdHpQW-pEs)

We try to make sense of the latest Google news, discuss who's spying on whom and a few hot takes on the latest M&A. Plus, Matt Ray teaches us about hippos and wombats. Relevant to your interests Google Google Cloud CEO Thomas Kurian is taking a page from the enterprise sales handbook against Amazon and Microsoft (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/google-cloud-ceo-thomas-kurian-targeting-five-industries-c-suite.html) Politics around Istio and Knative within Google are fascinating (https://twitter.com/mattklein123/status/1229513048378888193?s=21) “People frequently conflate "open governance" and "neutral IP ownership." It depends greatly on the foundation, but in the case of the CNCF, there are literally zero governance requirements enforced on projects. CNCF projects can be (and are) single vendor governed.” Welcoming Looker to Google Cloud (https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/inside-google-cloud/google-completes-looker-acquisition) Google Cloud reveals major restructuring plans (https://www.techradar.com/news/google-cloud-reveals-major-restructuring-plans) Google Cloud acquires mainframe migration service Cornerstone (https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/19/google-cloud-acquires-mainframe-migration-service-cornerstone/) Security The CIA secretly bought a company that sold encryption devices across the world. Then its spies sat back and listened. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-security/cia-crypto-encryption-machines-espionage/?stream=technology&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioscodebook&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter) The CIA’s ‘coup of the century (https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-reports/the-cias-coup-of-the-century/)’ Podcast (https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-reports/the-cias-coup-of-the-century/) The End of Privacy as We Know It? (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/10/podcasts/the-daily/facial-recognition-surveillance.html) Average tenure of a CISO is just 26 months due to high stress and burnout (https://www.zdnet.com/article/average-tenure-of-a-ciso-is-just-26-months-due-to-high-stress-and-burnout/) DOJ charges four China-backed hackers with Equifax breach – TechCrunch (https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/10/justice-department-breach-equifax/) Ring enables mandatory two-factor authentication and new privacy controls in response to scandals (https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/18/21141948/ring-two-factor-authentication-default-mandatory-data-sharing-third-party-analytics-advertising) The DNSSEC Root Signing Ceremony (https://www.cloudflare.com/dns/dnssec/root-signing-ceremony/) Internet's safe-keepers forced to postpone crucial DNSSEC root key signing ceremony – no, not a hacker attack, but because they can't open a safe (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/13/iana_dnssec_ksk_delay/) M&A and Going Bust Dell Nears Deal to Sell RSA Security Business to Private-Equity Firm STG (https://www.wsj.com/articles/dell-nears-deal-to-sell-rsa-security-business-to-private-equity-firm-stg-11581996327?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioslogin&stream=top) Koch Industries acquires Infor in deal pegged at nearly $13B – TechCrunch (https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/04/koch-industries-acquires-infor-in-deal-pegged-at-nearly-13b/) Xerox raises takeover offer for HP (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hp-m-a-xerox-hlngs/xerox-raises-takeover-bid-for-hp-idUSKBN2041J2) Android founder's next phone company goes bust (https://www.axios.com/android-founder-phone-company-essential-shut-down-73b83ef8-921f-4acd-b4c6-f43f5b4abcef.html) HQ, maker of the once-popular HQ Trivia, is shutting down (https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/14/21138408/hq-trivia-shutting-down-employee-layoffs-app-game) Rancher Labs Achieves 169% Revenue Growth, Doubles (https://rancher.com/press/momentum-announcement) Alibaba Cloud revenue reaches $1.5B for the quarter on 62% growth rate – TechCrunch (https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/14/alibaba-cloud-revenue-reaches-1-5b-for-the-quarter-on-62-growth-rate/) dgarros/netdevops-survey (https://github.com/dgarros/netdevops-survey/) The History of Git: The Road to Domination (https://www.welcometothejungle.com/en/articles/btc-history-git) Judge temporarily blocks Microsoft Pentagon cloud contract after Amazon suit (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/amazon-gets-restraining-order-to-block-microsoft-work-on-pentagon-jedi.html) Amazon lawyers want to depose Trump (https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/amazon-lawyers-want-depose-trump-it-s-hard-blame-them-n1134331) Your .com could soon cost you more .cash (https://thehustle.co/02132020-verisign-namecheap-domains/) Wi-Fi 6E isn’t here yet—but Broadcom is clearly banking on it (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/02/wi-fi-6e-gets-a-little-closer-to-reality-with-broadcoms-new-chipset/) New Relic: New Report: For the Love of Serverless - New Relic Blog (https://blog.newrelic.com/product-news/for-the-love-of-serverless/) GSMA cancels Mobile World Congress due to coronavirus concerns (https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/12/gmsa-cancels-mobile-world-congress-due-to-coronavirus-concerns/) Red Hat kicks off long goodbye for CoreOS Container Linux • DEVCLASS (https://devclass.com/2020/02/06/red-hat-kicks-off-long-goodbye-for-coreos-container-linux/) Meet JJ Asghar - DevRel.net (https://devrel.net/dev-rel/meet-jj-asghar) Amazon Empire: The Rise and Reign of Jeff Bezos (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/amazon-empire/) ## Nonsense How Much of the Internet Is Fake? (https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/how-much-of-the-internet-is-fake.html) My travel habits (https://anonymoushash.vmbrasseur.com/2019/11/25/my-travel-habits/) Private equity, explained — The Weeds (https://overcast.fm/+FOOTjqFjI) They recorded the Seinfeld theme separately for EVERY EPISODE (https://twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/1229378614824701958?s=21) Chasing Colombia's 'cocaine hippos' (https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2020-02-09/uc-san-diego-biologist-colombia-cocaine-hippos-pablo-escobar) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: Subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. HashiTalks (https://events.hashicorp.com/hashitalks2020) Virtual Conference February 20, 2020 FREE (Matt’s presenting on Terraform + Chef tech) QCon London (https://www.papercall.io/speakers/cote/speaker_talks/178127-the-blinking-cursor-or-kubernetes-for-developers-architects-other-people-who-aren-t-supposed-to-use-it), March 2nd to 6th - Coté speaking at some point. Agile Scotland, March 6th: sessions (https://www.agilescotland.com/sessions), tickets (https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/agile-scotland-dynamic-earth-march-2020-tickets-81226262939). KubeCon EU (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/) in Amsterdam March 30 – April 2, use code KCEUSDP15 for 15% off. DevOpsDays Austin 2020 (https://devopsdays.org/events/2020-austin/welcome/) May 4th and 5th ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) in Seattle June 1-4 Dev (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)O (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ps (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)D (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ays Minneapolis, (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/) August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells, WI. Call for Counselors (https://www.thatconference.com/wi/call-for-counselors) (Speakers) open until March 1st. Book Giveaway Free digital copy of Code Your Way Up: Rise to the Challenge of Software Leadership (https://www.amazon.com/Code-Your-Way-Challenge-Leadership/dp/1777076501/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Code+Your+Way+Up%3A+Rise+to+the+Challenge+of+Software+Leadership&qid=1582139704&sr=8-1) to the first person to direct message bwhichard in the SDT Slack (https://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack) or on Twitter (https://twitter.com/bwhichard). SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Brandon: McMillions (https://www.hbo.com/mcmillions) on HBO (https://www.hbo.com/mcmillions) Matt: Casey Handmer’s Blog (https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/) space-related blog posts are fascinating Subscribe to Orbital Index (https://orbitalindex.com/) for space news

With a new CEO and president at IBM, we talk about what’s been going on good and bad at IBM in recent years. Big bets were made and that whole cloud things overshadowed things. We also talk about the mysteries of private equity, here what Thoma Bravo has done to make billions of dollars of Dynatrace and Compuware. Finally, we briefly talk about the whole microservices and serverless are silly trend - monoliths rule! (Oh, and some small Java talk.) (Sorry there’s so much high-volume on Coté's end. Hopefully your ear-holes won’t hurt too much. Coté needs to get a new pop-filter.) Mood board: Interpol can’t find me in Australia, right? Digital transformation is bad. Did they decide that the kids are all right? Thought leader me into happiness. You are so much more cynical than me. What does IBM do? Reverse halo effect. Surviving the trough of disillusionment. We’ll stick up for digital transformation - No! For the rest of your life, do better. Minor bread talk. Relevant to your interests IBM IBM CEO Ginni Rometty is stepping down, Arvind Krishna to take over (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/30/ibm-ceo-ginni-rometty-steps-down-arvind-krishna-to-take-over.html) 1 big thing: Ginni Rometty out at IBM (https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-login-5a7bbb49-ba2e-448b-92b1-997a5006be88.html?chunk=0&utm_term=twsocialshare#story0) IBM’s Lost Decade (https://www.platformonomics.com/2020/02/ibms-lost-decade/) IBM didn’t spent much CAPEX (https://www.platformonomics.com/2018/05/follow-the-capex-separating-the-clowns-from-the-clouds/), three others did. Coté: what’s there to say that’s new? Cloud wasn’t executed well (I guess?) and Watson was a poor choice for such a high priority. Thoma Bravo to Explore $2 Billion Sale of Compuware (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-30/thoma-bravo-is-said-to-explore-2-billion-sale-of-compuware?srnd=deals) So, did Thoma Bravo do well here? “could value the mainframe software provider at around $2 billion, including debt, according to people familiar with the matter.” “Thoma Bravo took Compuware private in 2014 in a deal valued at $2.5 billion. It carved out Compuware’s application performance management division, renamed it Dynatrace Inc. and took it public last year.” Dynatrace market cap is ~$9.1bn (https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/DT?p=DT&.tsrc=fin-srch), was ~$6.7bn on IPO day (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GrEhTb9AZgUJ:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-31/thoma-bravo-controlled-dynatrace-s-ipo-raises-570-million+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nl) (August 2019). Brenon@451 on the IPO (https://blogs.the451group.com/techdeals/infrastructure-software/dynatraces-dynamic-debut/), August 2019: “Post-offering, the PE firm still owns about 70% of Dynatrace.” And: “Dynatrace raised roughly $570m in its offering, some of which will go toward paying down its nearly $1bn in debt.” 451’s note on the 2014 going private (https://blogs.the451group.com/techdeals/ma/thoma-bravo-gets-better-than-face-value-from-compuware/). So, if Thoma Bravo still owns 70%, then have ~$6.37bn worth of equity (70% of market cap of $9.1bn)…sounds… really good for laying for laying down $2.5bn, plus you might get $2bn more from the rest of Compuware. That’s crazy, right? That Compuware was sitting on that much extra value? This week in cloud architecture patterns tl;dr: ¯_(ツ)_/¯ The State of Serverless (https://www.datadoghq.com/state-of-serverless/) This is just about AWS Lambda. (That said, what else is there?) “Among the companies with the largest infrastructure footprints, more than three quarters have adopted Lambda.” Lots of node.js and python use, not much Java and .Net use. Java and python were added in the same year (2015), node.js since the start in 2014. Coté’s summary of their analysis: Lambda used with lots of data processing, primarily with python and node, at mostly large orgs. Not used by Java devs. Modular Monolithic Architecture, Microservices and Architectural Drivers (https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/01/monolith-architectural-drivers/) “Monoliths are the future,” (https://changelog.com/posts/monoliths-are-the-future) Kelsey Hightower. “Now that our industry is finally recovering from the mass delusion that microservices was going to be the future, it's surely time to for the even bigger delusion that serverless is what's going to provide the all-purpose salvation.” @dhh (https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1225117740962181120?s=21) Also: his 2016 suggestion (https://m.signalvnoise.com/the-majestic-monolith/) that monoliths work best for small teams, microservices for huge orgs. Related: Reframing and Retooling for Observability, James Governor (https://redmonk.com/jgovernor/2020/02/05/reframing-and-retooling-for-observability/) - overview of observability, in serious James mode. JRebel Java survey: Over 60% use Java 8 or older. Java 8 was released in March 2014, no more updates to Java 8 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history). Tomcat dominates app server use at 60%+. Free and works is a hell of a combination (https://memes.yarn.co/yarn-clip/46d6e34c-6a40-4edb-bead-f7132543ff82). Spring and Spring Boot very dominate. “It was very surprising to see how many of our survey respondents are paying for Oracle JDK. I fully expected the open source options to have a much larger market share.” (https://www.platformonomics.com/2020/02/ibms-lost-decade/)- 1 big thing: Software disaster sinks Iowa caucus (https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-login-bf16b6d8-a2f7-4493-99d5-221968175e2a.html?chunk=0&utm_term=twsocialshare#story0) Google Numbers Google parent Alphabet Q4 earnings: Revenue disappoints (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alphabet-google-q4-earnings-191155754.html) Alphabet discloses YouTube ad revenues of $15.15 billion, Cloud revenues of $8.92 billion for 2019 (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/alphabet-discloses-youtube-cloud-revenues-for-the-first-time.html) Related: Instagram brought in an estimated (https://www.businessinsider.com/instagram-20-billion-ad-revenue-2019-report-2020-2?international=true&r=US&IR=T) $20bn in 2019. That’s a lot of money. Security Google releases open-source 2FA security key platform called OpenSK (https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/01/30/google-releases-open-source-2fa-security-key-platform/) Apple Engineers Propose Standardized Format for SMS One-Time Passcodes (https://www.macrumors.com/2020/01/31/apple-standardized-format-sms-one-time-passcodes/?utm_source=Benedict%27s+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9fb8b1f9a9-Benedict%27s+Newsletter+321&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4999ca107f-9fb8b1f9a9-70424493&mc_cid=9fb8b1f9a9&mc_eid=288b3f86c8) HPE acquires identity management startup Scytale (https://venturebeat.com/2020/02/03/hpe-acquires-identity-management-startup-scytale/) Microsoft Teams goes down after Microsoft forgot to renew a certificate (https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21120248/microsoft-teams-down-outage-certificate-issue-status) Multipass orchestrates virtual Ubuntu instances (https://multipass.run/) Nonsense Podcast app Overcast adds automatic intro skipping and overhauled Voice Boost feature (https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/31/21117380/overcast-podcast-app-new-features-voice-boost-2-intro-skipping) I Have a Costco Credit Card. I Never Use It at Costco. Here’s Why. (https://thewirecutter.com/money/credit-cards/co-branded-costco/) Spotify is buying Bill Simmons’s The Ringer to boost its podcast business (https://www.vox.com/2020/2/5/21123904/spotify-bill-simmons-ringer-deal) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: Subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. KubeCon EU (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/) in Amsterdam March 30 – April 2, use code KCEUSDP15 for 15% off. DevOpsDays Austin 2020 (https://devopsdays.org/events/2020-austin/welcome/) May 4th and 5th QCon London (https://www.papercall.io/speakers/cote/speaker_talks/178127-the-blinking-cursor-or-kubernetes-for-developers-architects-other-people-who-aren-t-supposed-to-use-it), March 2nd to 6th - Coté speaking at some point. Agile Scotland, March 6th: sessions (https://www.agilescotland.com/sessions), tickets (https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/agile-scotland-dynamic-earth-march-2020-tickets-81226262939). ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) in Seattle June 1-4 Dev (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)O (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ps (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)D (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/)ays Minneapolis, (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/) August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells, WI. Call for Counselors (https://www.thatconference.com/wi/call-for-counselors) (Speakers) open until March 1st. HashiTalks (https://events.hashicorp.com/hashitalks2020) Virtual Conference February 20, 2020 FREE (Matt’s presenting on Terraform + Chef tech) SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Brandon: NeverSSL (http://neverssl.com/). Matt: Code the Classics (https://store.rpipress.cc/products/code-the-classics). Faith No More’s coming to Australia & New Zealand (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP9BfLIXsAAH7Mr.jpg) Cote: Beyond the Phoenix Project (https://amzn.to/31v2CeJ), from 2018 (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/38714647-beyond-the-phoenix-project).

How do we fix Privacy? How do you compete with AWS? Is the iPad a hit product? We discuss all this and Matt Ray teaches us how to decouple applications from the operating system. Plus, we offer more advice about tacos. Relevant to your interests Privacy “Software ate the world, so all the world’s problems get expressed in software” (https://twitter.com/benedictevans/status/1222285606635614208?s=21) Health-Records Company Pushed Opioids to Doctors in Secret Deal With Drugmaker (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-29/health-records-company-pushed-opioids-to-doctors-in-secret-deal) Scroll makes hundreds of websites ad-free for $5 per month (https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/28/21111865/scroll-ad-free-website-subscription-launches) Avast antivirus harvested user data, then sold to Google, Microsoft (https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/01/27/avast-antivirus-harvested-user-data-then-sold-to-google-microsoft) Disruption Clayton Christensen, Guru of ‘Disruptive Innovation,’ Dies at 67 (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/business/clayton-christensen-dead.html) How to Compete With AWS (https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2020/01/24/how-to-compete-with-aws/) After Kubernetes’ Victory, Its Former Rivals Change Tack (https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/business/after-kubernetes-victory-its-former-rivals-change-tack) Slack Stock Could Be One of the Biggest Opportunities in Software, Analyst Says (https://www.barrons.com/articles/slack-stock-opportunity-in-software-51580231541) Acquired | WhatsApp (https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/whatsapp) Chef Habitat Gains a Foothold in the Enterprise, Streamlines Packaging (https://thenewstack.io/chef-habitat-gains-a-foothold-in-the-enterprise-streamlines-packaging/) Google Google aims to unify its workplace tools and messaging apps into one service (https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/28/21112596/google-messaging-communications-app-hangouts-chat-meet-g-suite) Google will shut down App Maker on January 19, 2021 (https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/27/google-will-shut-down-app-maker-on-january-19-2021/) Google spent a record sum rewarding researchers for hacking its products (https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/29/google-record-reward-researchers-hack-security-bug-bounty/) Apple The 10th Anniversary of the iPad: A Perspective from the Windows Team (https://medium.learningbyshipping.com/the-10th-anniversary-of-the-ipad-a-perspective-from-the-windows-team-eaca7f94c5cc) The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 (https://daringfireball.net/2020/01/the_ipad_awkwardly_turns_10) Apple Holiday Results Top Estimates on Rebounding iPhone Demand (https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiUWh0dHBzOi8vZmluYW5jZS55YWhvby5jb20vbmV3cy9hcHBsZS1ob2xpZGF5LXJlc3VsdHMtdG9wLWVzdGltYXRlcy0yMTQ1MzA4NjMuaHRtbNIBWWh0dHBzOi8vZmluYW5jZS55YWhvby5jb20vYW1waHRtbC9uZXdzL2FwcGxlLWhvbGlkYXktcmVzdWx0cy10b3AtZXN0aW1hdGVzLTIxNDUzMDg2My5odG1s?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen) A new chapter for Kohsuke (https://jenkins.io/blog/2020/01/23/a-new-chapter-for-kohsuke/) COBOL on Kubernetes - stackconf (https://stackconf.eu/talks/cobol-on-kubernetes/) VMware’s vRealize $236M Patent Infringement Loss: 5 Things To Know (https://www.crn.com/slide-shows/virtualization/vmware-s-vrealize-236m-patent-infringement-loss-5-things-to-know) VMware? VM... now where? It's that time of the year again when Dell's virtualization software giant sheds staff (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/28/vmware_layoffs_confirmed/) LastPass is discontinuing its native Mac app and replacing it with a more universal web app (https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/29/21113505/lastpass-native-mac-app-store-replacement-web-safari-extension-update) Nonsense Google caves on unpopular favicon change in Search and promises to test more designs (https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/01/24/google-caves-on-unpopular-favicon-change-in-search-and-promises-to-test-more-designs/) Old Bay hot sauce is here: McCormick launches new way to season wings ahead of Super Bowl (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/01/29/old-bay-hot-sauce-now-thing-and-heres-where-buy/4607149002/) Internal Monologue (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_monologue) vs. Not Everyone Conducts Inner Speech (https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/pristine-inner-experience/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech) Australia slips further in internet speed rankings (https://ia.acs.org.au/content/ia/article/2020/australia-slips-further-in-internet-speed-rankings.html) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: Subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. KubeCon EU (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/) in Amsterdam March 30 – April 2, use code KCEUSDP15 for 15% off. DevOpsDays Austin 2020 (https://devopsdays.org/events/2020-austin/welcome/) May 4th and 5th ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) in Seattle June 1-4 Devopsdays Minneapolis, (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/) August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells, WI. Call for Counselors (https://www.thatconference.com/wi/call-for-counselors) (Speakers) open until March 1st. HashiTalks (https://events.hashicorp.com/hashitalks2020) Virtual Conference February 20, 2020 FREE (Matt’s presenting on Terraform + Chef tech) SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Brandon: Matt Levine’s Money Stuff Newsletter (http://link.mail.bloombergbusiness.com/join/4wm/moneystuff-signup&hash=54223001ca3ffcf40f2629c25acea67a) The Animal Spir (https://animalspiritspod.libsyn.com/)i (https://animalspiritspod.libsyn.com/)ts Podcast (https://animalspiritspod.libsyn.com/) The Compound YouTube Channel from Josh Brown and Michael Batnick (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBRpqrzuuqE8TZcWw75JSdw) Matt: A16Z Podcasts (https://a16z.com/podcasts/) Daniel Suarez’s Freedom (https://amzn.to/2RG0cGD), the sequel to Daemon

Coté proposes that there’s three types of apps to pay attention to in enterprises. Or something like that. Also, he has a magical method for doing digital transformation: actually do it. We open up discussing the delightful adventure of doing analyst feature matrixes. Also, some brief discussion of Apple Watches in the impeachment trial. Mood board: The game is won or lost before the spreadsheet it sent. Incrementally updating apps, vs. making new businesses (digitizing) - like, maybe there just needs to be more programmers. It’s not “stupid,” it’s “antiquated.” Don’t make them think it is a big deal, or they’ll be afraid. Finding business case loopholes, or ignoring them. Can you base practices on loopholers? Wearing Apple Watches to senate hearings - a real ok boomer moment - gadgets in meetings in general. Audio books. I just made myself a sandwich, wow. Relevant to your interests Google AppSheet. Gesundheit! Oh, we see – it's Google pulling no-code development into a cloudy embrace (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/15/google_cloud_embraces_nocode_development_with_appsheet_acquisition/) Epic Systems, a major medical records vendor, is warning customers it will stop working with Google Cloud (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/epic-systems-warns-customers-it-will-stop-supporting-google-cloud.html) Not sure what to think about this. Google will have to make clear that it doesn't filch data, agreed on or not. Can they ever convince paranoid enterprise buyers that their data will be safe, not from hackers, but from Google? Google offers IBM AS/400 apps new home in its cloud (https://www.cio.com/article/3514989/google-offers-ibm-as400-apps-new-home-in-its-cloud.html) Google to phase out third-party cookies (https://www.axios.com/google-cookies-phase-out-third-party-5368ef6d-4c2c-40b7-865c-0f6a333f7377.html) - does this mean ads will disappear for me, or just that Google and Facebook will be the only ones who can do it? Forrester study highlights benefits of Google Anthos hybrid cloud app platform (https://siliconangle.com/2020/01/22/forrester-study-highlights-financial-benefits-google-anthos/) - and same with Pivotal (https://content.pivotal.io/analyst-reports/the-total-economic-impact-of-the-pivotal-platform-2020). IBM IBM forecasts full-year profit above estimates on cloud growth (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ibm-reports-surprise-revenue-rise-211453080.html) Six months after IBM spent $34 billion to acquire an open source software company, IBM's Q4 results showed that 'Red Hat goodness is kicking in' (https://apple.news/A27zjXAg2R3KvxxcuHXir1A) IBM Stock Rose More Today Than in the Last 10 Years. It’s Time For A Shake-Up (https://apple.news/AQhRI3vfZQS6UqjsnMVr8uw) Bad News DigitalOcean is laying off staff, sources say 30-50 affected (https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/17/digitalocean-layoffs/) Report: Firefox maker Mozilla is laying off 70 people (https://www.fastcompany.com/90452530/firefox-maker-mozilla-is-reportedly-laying-off-70-people-in-search-of-revenue-beyond-search?partner=feedburner) Good News AI for code, serverless, monitoring, SD-WAN. Snyk raises $150 million at $1 billion valuation for AI that protects open source code (https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/21/snyk-raises-150-million-at-1-billion-valuation-for-ai-that-protects-open-source-code/) TriggerMesh 2020 - Cloud Native Integration (https://triggermesh.com/2020/01/triggermesh-2020-cloud-native-integration/) DevOps Startup Sysdig Raises $70M Series E (https://news.crunchbase.com/news/devops-startup-sysdig-raises-70m-series-e/) VMware to acquire Nyansa for AI-based network analytics (https://www.zdnet.com/article/vmware-to-acquire-nyansa-for-ai-based-network-analytics/) Australia Australians Stick With Their Banks Through Years of Scandal (https://apple.news/AjCsVk8vdSFG4DrMPHQLaow) Humble Australia Fire Relief Bundle (https://www.humblebundle.com/games/australia-fire-relief) Phone Hacking Here Is the Technical Report Suggesting Saudi Arabia’s Prince Hacked Jeff Bezos’ Phone (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74v34/saudi-arabia-hacked-jeff-bezos-phone-technical-report?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosprorata&stream=top) U.N. Experts Call for Inquiry into Hack of Bezos’s Phone (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/middleeast/un-experts-call-for-inquiry-into-hack-of-bezoss-phone.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share) Apple reportedly scrapped plans to fully secure iCloud backups after FBI intervention (https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/21/21075033/apple-icloud-end-to-end-encryption-scrapped-fbi-reuters-report) Grab Bag Istio as an Example of When Not to Do Microservices (https://blog.christianposta.com/microservices/istio-as-an-example-of-when-not-to-do-microservices/) VCs are just tired (https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/16/vcs-are-just-tired/) An introduction to VMware vRealize Operations Cloud (https://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/tip/An-introduction-to-VMware-vRealize-Operations-Cloud?amp=1#click=https://t.co/pASAzDcJXW) Nearly 200 CEOs just agreed on an updated definition of "the purpose of a corporation" (https://qz.com/work/1690439/new-business-roundtable-statement-on-the-purpose-of-companies/) 2020: The year of seeing clearly on AI and machine learning (https://www.zdnet.com/article/2020-the-year-of-seeing-clearly-on-ai-and-machine-learning/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ftag=RSSbaffb68) 2019 CNCF Annual Report - Cloud Native Computing Foundation (https://www.cncf.io/blog/2020/01/21/2019-cncf-annual-report/) Flow Time - How Fast are We Delivering Business Value? - Tasktop Blog (https://www.tasktop.com/blog/flow-time/) DuckDuckGo Traffic (https://duckduckgo.com/traffic) The billion-dollar battle over .org registry ownership intensifies (https://www.axios.com/org-registry-ownership-battle-d73a356f-4b94-4cb3-8769-9cbbc3526440.html) What Senators Wearing Apple Watches During the Impeachment Trial Teach Us About Invisible Tech (https://apple.news/AnOZnSgFFRje9eTWY0Eqy7w) - seems like an “ok boomer” story. Nonsense Why Texans Love H-E-B So Much (https://www.kut.org/post/why-texans-love-h-e-b-so-much) Travel company’s sneaky ad trick (https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/accommodation/trivago-fined-for-misleading-customers-on-pricing/news-story/30074634a8f3b90ddee445468a7216ce) Frozen iguanas falling from trees in South Florida (https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/01/22/frozen-iguanas-falling-from-trees-in-south-florida/) Sunshine Map (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO4ssJnXsAA9Q4w.jpg) To Your Brain, Audiobooks Are Not ‘Cheating’ (https://www.thecut.com/2016/08/listening-to-a-book-instead-of-reading-isnt-cheating.html) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: If you are a Software Defined Talk Listener then we know you love Tech Podcasts and this week sponsor is another great tech podcast — Arrested DevOps. The Arrested DevOps podcast will help you achieve understanding, develop good practices, and operate your team and organization for maximum DevOps awesomeness. Arrested DevOps is hosted by Matt Stratton, Trevor Hess, and Bridget Kromhout. All the hosts are active in the DevOps community and they help put on DevOps days all over the world. So what are you waiting for you can subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visitinghttps://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. June 1-4: ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) KubeCon EU (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/), March 30 – April 2, use discount code KCEUSDP15 for 15% off. DevOpsDays Austin 2020 (https://devopsdays.org/events/2020-austin/welcome/) May 4th and 5th Devopsdays Minneapolis, (https://devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/) August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration Listener Brett wants you to go to THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6, 2020 - Kalahari Resort, Wisconsin Dells, WI. 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Recommendations Brandon: The Outsider (https://www.hbo.com/the-outsider) on HBO (https://www.hbo.com/the-outsider) Coté: Tasty Meats Paul’s latest kubernetes and Spring talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn5gfbJcJ4A). Also, Paul’s food in Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/paulczar/).

This week the title says it all. There’s also some more bread talk. Mood board: “I love the talk about bread, can I get some stickers.” Do they have markdown in Intranets now? Kicking to fit use cases. Porting of Ports Crapplications, aka, “Crappity crap” Relevant to your interests Microsoft will stop supporting millions of computers running Windows 7 on Tuesday — here's what you need to know (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/13/microsoft-windows-7-support-ends-jan-14.html) “According to Net Applications (https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx) figures from December, 32.74% of all laptops and desktops still run Windows 7, behind Windows 10. Windows 10 runs on more than 900 million devices (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/microsoft-rolls-out-november-2019-windows-10-update.html).” Now It's Really, Truly Time to Give Up Windows 7 (https://www.wired.com/story/time-give-up-windows-7/) Google acquires AppSheet to bring no-code development to Google Cloud (http://axios.link/JlHc) Check out that Agriculture Inspection app (https://www.appsheet.com/samples/A-mobile-app-for-agricultural-fieldcrop-inspections-and-reports?appGuidString=b3accf6f-4aac-48fa-bce3-be0d7400f932)! Stack Overflow Bolsters Leadership Team With New Chief Product Officer, Teresa Dietrich (https://apnews.com/Business%20Wire/fc8d802729a94adfa795266ab3aecd52) Spotify Is Now the Single Biggest Podcasting Platform (https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/01/14/spotify-is-now-the-single-biggest-podcasting-platf.aspx) Rob Bearden takes over as Cloudera CEO (https://www.zdnet.com/article/rob-bearden-takes-over-as-cloudera-ceo/) Microsoft Azure has an edge over Amazon Web Services at big companies, Goldman Sachs survey says (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/07/microsoft-azure-cloud-winner-at-big-companies-goldman-sachs.html) Observability — A 3-Year Retrospective (https://thenewstack.io/observability-a-3-year-retrospective/) Anthos Ups Google’s Enterprise Efforts (https://go.forrester.com/blogs/anthos-ups-googles-enterprise-efforts/) The president of Marc Benioff's Time reveals how he plans to restore the neglected title and make it a billion-dollar business (https://apple.news/A_3dkPprHQBWldgSNqU0-4Q) The Endgame for LinkedIn Is Coming (https://medium.com/@lancengym/the-endgame-for-linkedin-is-coming-31d4a8b2a76) Equinix is acquiring bare metal cloud provider Packet (https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/14/equinix-is-acquiring-bare-metal-cloud-provider-packet/) Your iPhone can now help you securely log into your Google account with a simple tap (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/15/google-smart-lock-for-iphone-update-lets-you-log-in-to-google-securely.html) Google pays $160m for Irish retail tech company Pointy (http://axios.link/5dMw) Mozilla lays off 70 as it waits for new products to generate revenue (https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/15/mozilla-lays-off-70-as-it-waits-for-subscription-products-to-generate-revenue/) M&A: Negotiations Don't Start Until Someone Says No (https://www.channele2e.com/investors/mergers-acquisitions/ma-negotiations-dont-start-until-someone-says-no/) Red Hat OpenShift Updates Hit Multi-Cloud, Security (https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/red-hat-openshift-updates-hit-multi-cloud-security/2020/01/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=sdxcentral) Introducing Red Hat OpenShift 4.3 to Enhance Kubernetes Security (https://blog.openshift.com/introducing-red-hat-openshift-4-3-to-enhance-kubernetes-security/) Nonsense Top 20 IT Podcasts of 2020 (https://www.vertitechit.com/top-20-it-podcasts-of-2020/) When Buying in Bulk Is a Mistake (https://apple.news/Av1aOhCiBRG-HJYmWPBWwYQ) Zero Mass Water has a new rooftop well that pulls water out of the air (https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/06/zero-mass-water-has-a-new-rooftop-well-that-pulls-water-out-of-the-air/) CES 2020: The Planty Cube Aims to Make Vertical Farming More Modular and Automated (https://thespoon.tech/ces-2020-the-planty-cube-aims-to-make-vertical-farming-more-modular-and-automated/) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: If you are a Software Defined Talk Listener then we know you love Tech Podcasts and this week sponsor is another great tech podcast — Arrested DevOps. The Arrested DevOps podcast will help you achieve understanding, develop good practices, and operate your team and organization for maximum DevOps awesomeness. Arrested DevOps is hosted by Matt Stratton, Trevor Hess, and Bridget Kromhout. All the hosts are active in the DevOps community and they help put on DevOps days all over the world. So what are you waiting for you can subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. NO-SSH-JJ wants you go to DeliveryConf (https://www.deliveryconf.com/) in Seattle on Jan 21st & 22nd (https://www.deliveryconf.com/), Use promo code: SDT10 to get 10% off. JJ wants you to read about Delivery Conf Format too (https://www.deliveryconf.com/format). June 1-4: ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) KubeCon EU (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe/), March 30 – April 2, use discount code KCEUSDP15 for 15% off. DevOpsDays Austin 2020 (https://devopsdays.org/events/2020-austin/welcome/) May 4th and 5th Listener Brett wants you to go to THAT Conference (https://www.thatconference.com/wi) August 3 - 6, 2020 - Kalahari Resort, Wisconsin Dells, WI. Call for Counselors (https://www.thatconference.com/wi/call-for-counselors) (Speakers) open until March 1st. SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Matt: Bruce Sterling’s annual State of the World (https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/507/State-of-the-World-2020-Bruce-St-page01.html). Brandon: Slack cleaner (https://github.com/kfei/slack-cleaner). (https://github.com/kfei/slack-cleaner) (https://github.com/kfei/slack-cleaner) Coté: Apple News+?

We discuss weird speculation that Google Cloud would buy Salesforce. It seems like bullshit, mostly, but it gives us a good jumping off point to talk cloud strategy. Also, Coté talks about being part of the VMware Tanzu team, how kubernetes could become the white box of the PC market (this is a good thing), that being #3 in a market is probably just fine, and we discuss poisoning-by-bread. Mood board: This is a New Year’s resolution we can all get behind: it’s time to just give up on some stuff. Man, this coffee is bad. Carbohydrate Coté is angry. Coté gets his birthday wrong. You’re really just pretty negative. Our man in Tanzu-land Cotem. After the headline, that article didn’t need to be written more. I’m not going to get into it, so here I go. The Turn the hydra head into a nanny acquisition strategy. Man, I should have just started with the bread. Relevant to your interests Tanzu Coté - VMware completes $2.7 billion Pivotal acquisition (https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/30/vmware-completes-2-7-billion-pivotal-acquisition/). Google buying Salesforce acid-dream - Google could acquire Salesforce and spin out its cloud business to catch up to Amazon and Microsoft, analyst predicts (https://www.businessinsider.com/google-salesforce-cloud-platform-spinout-analyst-prediction-2020-1) ServiceNow! Sort of examples the vagueness of Google’s Cloud Corporate Strategy. Drunk under a lamp post M&A click-bait strategy. “We only want to be #1 and #2 in a market.” Known fix: just redefine your market so you’re number one or number two. Share price premium for # 1 or #2 in the market. Pay people cheaper than you get paid to do things fallacy. Google 2023 deadline for Google Cloud to beat Amazon. Things we didn’t get to - Gartner, Splunk & McKinsey – IT Infrastructure & Operations (https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveandriole/2019/12/16/gartner-splunk--mckinsey--it-infrastructure--operations-------------predictions-for-2020/#35937dbe1dd2) A Cloud Guru Announces Acquisition of Linux Academy (https://www.prweb.com/releases/a_cloud_guru_announces_acquisition_of_linux_academy/prweb16790924.htm) For The New York Times, a swing and a miss at Amazon Web Services (https://mostlycloudy.substack.com/p/for-the-new-york-times-a-swing-and) Google execs reportedly debated getting out of cloud computing, but instead set a goal of being a top-two player by 2023 (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/17/google-reportedly-wants-to-be-top-two-player-in-cloud-by-2023.html) Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud (https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-2023-as-deadline-to-beat-amazon-microsoft-in-cloud) Stratoscale closes down, lays off 60 (https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-stratoscale-closes-down-lays-off-60-1001310966) Anyscale, from the creators of the Ray distributed computing project, launches with $20.6M led by a16z (https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/17/anyscale-ray-project-distributed-computing-a16z/) Compare Red Hat OpenShift vs. Cloud Foundry in a Kubernetes faceoff (https://searchitoperations.techtarget.com/feature/Compare-Red-Hat-OpenShift-vs-Cloud-Foundry-in-a-Kubernetes-faceoff) IBM tailors Swift relationship after 'review of open source priorities' (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/17/swift_ibm_pulls_back_open_source_priorities/) AWS hits back at open-source software critics (https://www.zdnet.com/article/aws-hits-back-at-open-source-software-critics/) Amazon Conference Badges Tracked Attendees' Movements (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkeyqk/amazon-conference-badges-tracked-attendees-movements) IBM to Google: Istio, Knative, TensorFlow should be under 'open governance' (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/20/ibm_istio_knative_tensorflow_should_be_under_open_governance/) Exclusive: Pentagon warns military members DNA kits pose ‘personal and operational risks’ (https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-warns-military-members-dna-kits-pose-personal-and-operational-risks-173304318.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAE0JhKe_XfOhdcOGvu6l8lKLn4C2yptTBJ5q1RVejnyxYCU2HLoo2WWccf-ZhDFh5OUypD2mJND5PxZEF3m4bogO9BX6tTYVB9uywg1EQV8AvLXUFPBf-EyrE4vISxKZM8HAMVVeUc5xiPum5ez9MGcjuPy2SeMNwN_hnO-IXbdM) Employee error to blame for massive data leak (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/12/surveillance-camera-company-wyze-confirms-leak-of-user-data/) Video games are easy channel for money launderers (https://www.ft.com/content/4658d340-24f6-11ea-9a4f-963f0ec7e134) BigID bags another $50M round as data privacy laws proliferate (https://techcrunch.com/2020/01/06/bigid-bags-another-50m-round-as-data-privacy-laws-proliferate/) The Biggest Problems With Bluetooth Audio Are About to Be Fixed (https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiENtnIajSFSjFkfxM7Anh2o0qFQgEKg0IACoGCAowlIECMLBMMJ-mHg?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen) Introducing Cloudflare for Teams (https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-cloudflare-for-teams/) Major union launches campaign to organize video game and tech workers (https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-01-07/major-union-launches-campaign-to-organize-video-game-and-tech-workers) Code-wise, cloud-foolish: avoiding bad technology choices (https://forrestbrazeal.com/2020/01/05/code-wise-cloud-foolish-avoiding-bad-technology-choices/) Accenture Buys CyberSecurity Services Business of Symantec (http://www.finsmes.com/2020/01/accenture-buys-cyber-security-services-business-of-symantec.html) Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: Arrested DevOps is hosted by Matt Stratton, Trevor Hess, and Bridget Kromhout. 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Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Matt: Star Wars/Mandalorian, The 15 most awe-inspiring space images of the decade (https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/12/18/20995427/astronomy-pluto-black-hole-mars-curiosity-rosetta) Brandon: macOS Catalina Patcher (http://dosdude1.com/catalina/); Upgrade your Mac SSD (https://mattray.github.io/2019/11/12/upgrading-macbook-pro-ssds.html) Coté: iPhone 11 Pro, most recent (https://www.vox.com/the-weeds) The Weeds (https://www.vox.com/the-weeds) episode (https://www.vox.com/the-weeds), The Weeds episode called “Midichlorian chili.” (https://overcast.fm/+FOOQJ9lCo) Ourto: “I love bread,” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtV9Vi6tSVk) Parry Gripp.

“What choice do we have?” At the end of the year, we answer listener questions. From middle-names, to athletes, to advice to startups. Also, we talk open source in 2020 predictions, that NYTimes story on Amazon, and Twinkies. Mood board: As they say “a dot w dot s.” Twinkies are better after the Apocalypse Does he know something we don’t know? They could have been the paper of record on “A.M.I.” Judgemental open source. The Three C’s. “CTO Edge.” CTOs don’t go to DevOps Days I try to show up to most conferences I’m speaking at. “I love the way they’re kicking that ball.” They didn’t consider “Motel 6” for Matt’s middle name. It’s safe to watch The Watchmen. Relevant to your interests Amazon is Launching a Home Internet Service - Here is Everything You Need to Know About It (https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-is-launching-a-home-internet-service-here-is-everything-you-need-to-know-about-it/). 8 of the worst open source innovations of the decade (https://www.techrepublic.com/article/8-of-the-worst-open-source-innovations-of-the-decade/). Russian police raid NGINX Moscow office (https://www.zdnet.com/article/russian-police-raid-nginx-moscow-office/). Larry Ellison sets the Catz among the pigeons: Safra officially sole Oracle CEO (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/13/oracle_q2_fy2020/). Google makes moving data to its cloud easier (https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/12/google-makes-moving-data-to-its-cloud-easier/). Atlassian launches new serverless cloud development platform (https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/12/atlassian-launches-new-serverless-cloud-development-platform/). Costco Earnings Beat But Revenue Falls Short; Costco Stock Falls Late (https://www.investors.com/news/costco-earnings-q1-2020-cost-stock-buy-point/). AWS Outposts by the numbers (https://medium.com/@ahl/aws-outposts-68e78592c7f8). Prime Leverage: How Amazon Wields Power in the Technology World (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/15/technology/prime-leverage-amazon-power-cloud-aws.html). Ask SDT What are your thoughts on the big data industry and technologies like Spark? from Jay via Slack ~~~~2. ~~As industry vets, what advice do you have for the new school IAM/monitoring startups? (other than: integrate with AD for ent clients) from Ryan via Slack~~ What is the best conference swag you've ever given away or received? My personal best was a power brick that could also charge up apple's airpods for some reason. from Tim from Slack ~~What tech conferences are worth going to that we haven't heard of? Are there interesting things that are smaller scale than the reinvents / dreamforce / et al, that provide great information and attract a really interesting set of speakers?from Tim from Slack~~ ~~Why do you think we don’t see more celebrity athletes featured in tech advertisements? Granted I knew the writing was on the wall at one company I was at when we hired Mike Tyson for our CES booth, but uh why hasn’t that worked out yet? from Ryan from Slack~~ ~~~~ 1. ~~Tangentially: https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/1206589810439274496~~ ~~Related: https://twitter.com/TylerIAm/status/1045495019325587456~~ Is a startup aspiring to be acquired by a foundation like the CNCF a legit business model? from Ryan from Slack For the expats: what's your favorite and least favorite thing(s) about your new regions? from Nathan from Slack ~~What would you say ya do here? from Noe via Slack~~ ~~Matt, what is your middle name? from Jordy via Slack~~ Sponsors Arrested DevOps Podcast: What are you waiting for you can subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. 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Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Recommendations Matt: The Peripheral (https://amzn.to/2PSibru) & The Dark Forest (https://amzn.to/2PSibru). Brandon: The Watchmen (https://www.hbo.com/video/watchmen/videos/trailer)on HBO (Matt’s eventual recommendation) Coté: Use hotel notepads at home.

This week: that best gadgets from the past ten years article, dreams of kubernetes on old hardware, and 451 Research’s acquisition. Ask us questions for the next episode with the tag #asksdt — recording next week. Mood board: #asksdt Remember the Law of Hammarabi. They’re not the Poynter institute or anything. Are we going to be blamed for all the problems? Kubernetes on the barby. It’s all the same broken stuff. Broken ankle con. I’ve never broken a bone. A bunch of old hardware, some Kubernetes, you got a stew going! The Carl Weathers Cluster. I’m really good at thinking while I talk. Just ignore the baby yoda. Relevant to your interests The 100 most important gadgets of the decade (https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/10/20997215/best-gadgets-decade-2010s-list-roundup-apple-iphone-tesla-amazon-samsung). Broken ankle conference. S&P Global Acquires 451 Research, LLC (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sp-global-acquires-451-research-llc-300970643.html). Ubuntu pro. Facebook sells off Oculus Medium to Adobe (http://axios.link/6xFK). Amazon blames Trump for losing $10 billion JEDI cloud contract to Microsoft (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/09/amazon-blames-trump-for-losing-jedi-cloud-contract.html). This podcaster wants to catch you up on the news on your ride home, no matter what you’re into (https://www.fastcompany.com/90440269/ride-home-media-tech-election-news-podcasts-celeb-news). Ring's Hidden Data Let Us Map Amazon's Sprawling Home Surveillance Network (https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/12/rings-hidden-data-let-us-map-amazons-sprawling-home-surveillance-network/). AWS is sick of waiting for your company to move to the cloud (https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/09/aws-is-sick-of-waiting-for-your-company-to-move-to-the-cloud/). Cloud Wars CEO of the Year 2019: Thomas Kurian of Google Cloud (https://cloudwars.co/cloud-wars-ceo-of-the-year-2019-thomas-kurian-google-cloud/). Amazon, Google, Microsoft: Here's Who Has the Greenest Cloud (https://www.wired.com/story/amazon-google-microsoft-green-clouds-and-hyperscale-data-centers/). Canonical announces Ubuntu Pro for Amazon Web Services (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-announces-ubuntu-pro-for-amazon-web-services). Eclipse Foundation Warns Operators: Don’t Be a ‘Dumb Pipe’ for AWS (https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/eclipse-foundation-warns-operators-dont-be-a-dumb-pipe-for-aws/2019/12/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=sdxcentral). CNCF Cloud Native Interactive Landscape (https://landscape.cncf.io/). BPF: A New Type of Software (http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2019-12-02/bpf-a-new-type-of-software.html). Nonsense AI Hiring Algorithm (https://xkcd.com/2237/) The Apple TV remote is so bad that a Swiss TV company developed a normal replacement (https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/12/9/21002605/apple-tv-remote-salt-swiss-tv-company-replacement-buttons-normal) Air France-KLM Group steps up cooperation with Qantas Group (https://www.airfranceklm.com/en/news/air-france-klm-group-steps-cooperation-qantas-group) Sponsors SolarWinds: This episode is sponsored by SolarWinds and one of their APM tools – Loggly. To try it FREE for 14 days, just go to http://loggly.com/sdt. Arrested DevOps Podcast: Subscribe today by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in you favorite podcast app or by visiting (https://www.arresteddevops.com/)https://www.arresteddevops.com/ (https://www.arresteddevops.com/). Conferences, et. al. NO-SSH-JJ wants you go to DeliveryConf (https://www.deliveryconf.com/) in Seattle on Jan 21st & 22nd (https://www.deliveryconf.com/), Use promo code: SDT10 to get 10% off. JJ wants you to read about Delivery Conf Format too (https://www.deliveryconf.com/format). June 1-4: ChefConf 2020 (https://chefconf.chef.io/) Jordi wants you to go to GitLab Commit (https://about.gitlab.com/events/commit/) Jan. 14th SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you free laptop stickers! Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/). Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt) Digital WTF (https://leanpub.com/digitalwtf/c/sdt), so $5 total. Book Giveaway We’re giving away one digital copy of Righting Software (http://www.informit.com/store/righting-software-9780136524038). The first person that DM’s @bwhichard (https://twitter.com/bwhichard) on Twitter or in the SDT Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack) gets a copy. Recommendations Matt: On the Metal (https://oxide.computer/blog/categories/on-the-metal/) podcast; How Buildings Learn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvEqfg2sIH0). Brandon: General Magic the Movie (https://www.generalmagicthemovie.com/). Coté: The Mandalorian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian). Outro: “Tooth Fairy Crunch!,” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5embxVXocY&list=PLtsdgl5EjTaPZkxc15Biep5OvVxRI1YW8&index=15&t=1m43s) Teen Titans. Cover art from yusseyhan (https://pixabay.com/photos/casserole-stew-crock-hot-pot-2386835/).

Every creature, living or artificial, is learning through the interactions with its environment all the time. It is learning not only from other creatures it interacts with, but also from the context in which these interactions take place. When an environment becomes defined by such contextual mutual learning through interaction, it becomes a creature in its own right - an entity famously named by Nora Bateson as Symmathesy. Today we talk with Jessica Kerr, a developer at Atomist and an expert in development automation, about the ways of transforming your development team into a symmathesy. When you finish listening to the episode, make sure to take a listen of Jessica’s own podcasts Greater than Code and Arrested DevOps, and to read her blog at http://jessitron.com. 

Martin Thompson on Arrested DevOps, Dr. Carola Lilienthal on Legacy Code Rocks, Jeff Gothelf on Agile Atelier, Safi Bahcall on Coaching For Leaders, and Mike Burrows on A Geek Leader.  I’d love for you to email me with any comments about the show or any suggestions for podcasts I might want to feature. Email podcast@thekguy.com. This episode covers the five podcast episodes I found most interesting and wanted to share links to during the two week period starting August 19, 2019. These podcast episodes may have been released much earlier, but this was the fortnight when I started sharing links to them to my social network followers. MARTIN THOMPSON ON ARRESTED DEVOPS The Arrested DevOps podcast featured Martin Thompson with host Jessica Kerr. Martin and Jessica talked about the parallels between optimizing the performance of software systems and doing the same for human systems. Using ideas from queuing theory, they discussed the notion of adding small amounts of slack to a system to make it drastically more responsive. Martin connected Amdahl’s Law to the more general Universal Scalability Law, which is more comprehensive because it takes into account coherence cost, which is the time needed to reach agreement between parties working together. He added that Brook’s Law from The Mythical Man Month is the Universal Scalability Law by a different name. They talked about the difference between parallelism and concurrency. Parallelism, Martin says, is doing multiple things at the same time. Concurrency means dealing with multiple things at the same time, a definition Martin says he stole from Rob Pike. He further decomposed the universal scalability law into its parameters. One parameter represents whether you can subdivide the work (the contention penalty) and the other represents the time to reach agreement (the coherence penalty). If your team can reach agreement faster, they can get better throughput because they can have more parallelism with less concurrency. They got into a discussion of the importance of feedback in information theory. Sending information and not confirming reception is a naïve approach and this has been understood for a long time and yet software is still built that ignores this. Two phase commit is an example. If you study the two phase commit protocol in any detail, Martin says, you realize it is fundamentally broken, yet corporations don’t want to say that. They talked about how to design distributed applications in the presence of partial failures. Martin says to make your communications idempotent, give each message a sequence number, and use this sequence number to identify and ignore replayed messages. According to Martin, designing your systems this way is just good hygiene and professionalism. Apple Podcasts link: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/protocols-and-sympathy-with-martin-thompson/id773888088?i=1000444947737 Website link: https://www.arresteddevops.com/protocols/ DR. CAROLA LILIENTHAL ON LEGACY CODE ROCKS The Legacy Code Rocks podcast featuring Dr. Carola Lilienthal with hosts Andrea Goulet and Scott Ford. They talked about Domain-Driven Design. Carola said her company read Eric Evans’ book and immediately took to it. Talking to users, writing software in the user's domain, and using a common vocabulary fit with what they were already doing so they adopted it easily. They talked about Carola’s modularity maturity index. It consists of three areas of sustainability: 1) modularity, 2) hierarchy, and 3) pattern consistency.  Andrea brought up the fact that larger codebases aren’t necessarily more difficult to change as Carola found in her research. Carola says that, based on the three hundred systems she’s studied, systems under a million lines of code are often in a worse state than larger systems. Around a million lines of code, she says, something happens: either people start structuring the system and putting in guard rails that keep the product maintainable or the system doesn’t grow any more. Apple Podcasts link: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/sustainable-software-architecture-dr-carola-lilienthal/id1146634772?i=1000443349633 Website link: http://legacycoderocks.libsyn.com/sustainable-software-architecture-with-dr-carola-lilienthal JEFF GOTHELF ON AGILE ATELIER The Agile Atelier podcast featured Jeff Gothelf with host Rahul Bhattacharya. Rahul and Jeff talked about the intersection of Agile, Lean, and Design Thinking to find commonalities. They examined customer-centricity, measuring success, continuous testing, and the importance of having a hypothesis. Jeff had been working as a designer on waterfall projects for the first decade of his career and, on a good day, only saw 50% of his work get implemented. Ten years into his career, Jeff got exposed to Agile software development and it forced him to revisit his design process and his process for doing product development as a whole. Because Jeff was in a leadership position and had a boss that understood the new methodology, Jeff got the chance to run process experiments to learn what the best collaboration model was for him and his team. This became the basis of his book, Lean UX. Rahul asked Jeff how he would define Design Thinking. Jeff described Design Thinking as applying the designer’s toolkit to solve business problems. This includes empathizing with customers, brainstorming ideas, prototyping, testing ideas with customers, and iterating.  Rahul asked if there is a specific situation in which to apply Design Thinking. Jeff says that he has yet to find a client or an industry where customer-centricity, continuous learning, risk mitigation, experimentation, and iteration don’t make sense. Even when working with people at GE who make locomotives and working with organizations that make room-sized air conditioning units that sit on top of skyscrapers, Jeff was able to successfully introduce them to ideas like talking to customers, identifying risks, and continuously improving their product. Rahul asked how the principles of Design Thinking fit with the Agile principles. Jeff says that everybody thinks that Agile is its own thing, Design Thinking is its own thing, Lean Manufacturing and Lean Startup are their own thing. The tactical execution of those methodologies might be different, but at their core, Jeff says these methods all share the same principles.  They are all customer-centric. They all measure success as an outcome, as a change in customer behavior. They all focus on testing your ideas quickly and moving off of bad ideas quickly. And they all focus on continuously improving and iterating the thing you are making as you continue to invest in it. They then got into a discussion about the importance of measuring the impact on the user of the product you are building. Jeff says that, unfortunately, shipping the thing is still one of the major definitions of success for most organizations. But in a world of continuous software when you can push a software update five times a minute like Amazon does, delivering the thing is a non-event and it should be a non-event. We shouldn’t celebrate it. What we should celebrate is the change in customer behavior that tells us that we’ve delivered value. These are things like showing up at the website, engaging with the app, buying the product, telling your friends, whatever it is we care about for our product. This line of thought led to the quote above. Apple Podcasts link: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/episode-11-intersection-agile-lean-design-thinking/id1459098259?i=1000445718430 Website link: https://rahul-bhattacharya.com/2019/07/30/episode-11-the-intersection-of-agile-lean-and-design-thinking-with-jeff-gothelf/ SAFI BAHCALL ON COACHING FOR LEADERS The Coaching For Leaders podcast featured Safi Bahcall (author of the book Loonshots) with host Dave Stachowiak. They talked about what science has to say about the best ways to nurture new ideas. They started out with a discussion of children’s books and Safi’s first example of a loonshot was Dr. Seuss. He had just been rejected by every publisher he took his first story to when he ran into a friend in the street. This friend asked Dr. Seuss about what he had under his arm and when he found out it was a manuscript for a children’s story that Dr. Seuss was taking home to burn, the friend revealed that he had just taken a job at a publisher across the street and asked Dr. Seuss if he would like to come into the publisher’s office. The Cat In The Hat was born. Safi used the story of the moon landing as an illustration of the difference between a moonshot and a loonshot. A moonshot was Kennedy’s speech announcing that the United States would put a man on the moon by the end of the decade. A loonshot was forty years earlier when Robert Goddard suggested getting to the moon with liquid-fueled jet propulsion and was ridiculed by many, including the New York Times. The reason it is important to understand the difference is because Goddard’s ideas, though neglected by the Americans, were embraced by Nazi Germany. German scientists used Goddard’s ideas to build jet engines and planes that flew 100 mph faster than any Allied plane. The mistake of neglecting Goddard’s ideas was fatal. Companies often ask Safi how they can innovate and create new products while continuing to keep their original product or service competitive. He thinks about these situations using three metaphors: the ice cube, garden hoe, and heart. He starts by thinking about the artists who create new product ideas and soldiers to execute on turning those ideas into real products in the marketplace. The ice cube is a rigid phase that suits the soldiers and a melted ice cube is a fluid phase that suits the artists. Understanding the problem starts with the ‘beautiful baby’ problem. The artist sees their new idea as a beautiful baby. The soldiers look at the same thing and see a shriveled up raisin. They’re both right. The garden hoe comes from understanding that the failure point in most innovation is rarely in the supply of new ideas, it is in the transfer between artists and soldiers. Great leaders are those who think of themselves as gardeners managing the transfer between the artists and soldiers. The heart is about loving your artists and soldiers equally. When we lionize the artists as the media often do, we demotivate the soldiers. I liked what Safi had to say about the problem with following the standard advice about active listening. Apple Podcasts link: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/418-the-way-to-nurture-new-ideas-with-safi-bahcall/id458827716?i=1000443895174 Website link: https://coachingforleaders.com/podcast/nurture-new-ideas-safi-bahcall/ MIKE BURROWS ON A GEEK LEADER The A Geek Leader podcast featured Mike Burrows with host John Rouda. Mike talked about his career leading up to the writing of AgendaShift. He described the goal of AgendaShift as trying to introduce agility not by prescribing a set of practices or rolling out a framework but by getting agreement on outcomes and working out different ways of achieving them in an hypothesis-driven way. He then mentioned his newer book that he was working on at the time the podcast aired and has just come out this month, Right to Left. Right to Left is about working backwards from outcomes. John asked what the shift was that led to this outcome-focused approach. Mike said that while working in the government digital space in the UK, he witnessed rapid change. Instead of one supplier creating documentation for a new system, a second supplier building it, and a third supplier supporting it, and the whole thing being an expensive mess that disappoints its end users, he says they now have a system where projects will be halted if they are not serious about engaging with users, doing user research, understanding needs, and working iteratively to deliver evolving services. He says that if it can happen in the government space, it can happen anywhere. John asked about what a new manager coming from an individual contributor role would need to learn for dealing with the people side of managing projects. Mike recommended tempering any temptation to micro-manage. On his first day taking over a management position at UBS, he had people lining up at his desk looking to be micro-managed because that is how his predecessor worked. He told them that if this is how it is going to work, it is going to make him miserable and it is going to make them miserable and he encouraged them to self-organize. Mike’s second recommendation is to learn to value and respect people who come from other disciplines than technology, as he says in the above quote. John asked Mike to describe AgendaShift. Mike says that the best two words that describe it come from Daniel Mezick: it is an engagement model. Much like Daniel’s OpenSpace Agility, AgendaShift describes how change agents can engage with their organizations. In the Lean/Agile space, pushing Agile on people is self-defeating and creates more problems than it solves. Instead, facilitate outcomes that the people of the organization can agree on and start solving problems. AgendaShift starts with discovery. There are workshop tools to creating a high-level plan. Then they use an assessment tool for identifying opportunities to increase transparency, get workloads under control, or to engage better with customers. They identify obstacles and the outcomes hiding behind those obstacles. They use a “clean language”-based game to model a landscape of obstacles and outcomes and get people to think about the journey, their priorities, and what the key landmarks along the way will be. Apple Podcasts link: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/agl-081-agendashift-with-mike-burrows/id1043194456?i=1000424584602 Website link:https://www.ageekleader.com/agl-081-agendashift-with-mike-burrows/ LINKS Ask questions, make comments, and let your voice be heard by emailing podcast@thekguy.com. Twitter: https://twitter.com/thekguy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithmmcdonald/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thekguypage Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_k_guy/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheKGuy Website:

This week I speak with my friend Matty Stratton as we discuss the hard times and the processes to make them better. Matty Stratton is a DevOps Advocate at PagerDuty, where he helps dev and ops teams advance the practice of their craft and become more operationally mature. He collaborates with PagerDuty customers and industry thought leaders in the broader DevOps community, and back when he drove, his license plate actually said “DevOps”. Matty has over 20 years experience in IT operations, ranging from large financial institutions such as JPMorganChase and internet firms, including Apartments.com. He is a sought-after speaker internationally, presenting at Agile, DevOps, and ITSM focused events, including ChefConf, DevOpsDays, Interop, PINK, and others worldwide. Matty is the founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, as well as a global organizer of the DevOpsDays set of conferences. He lives in Chicago and has three awesome kids, who he loves just a little bit more than he loves Doctor Who. He is currently on a mission to discover the best pho in the world. Transcript (txt format) - https://aka.ms/AA5pv8x Pagerduty Summit - sept 23-25 in San Fran. Breakathon, etc. https://community.pagerduty.com/summit for a great discount PDS19SAT Devopsdays chicago - use the code ADO2019 for 20% off. Devopsdayschi.org http://arresteddevops.com http://speaking.mattstratton.com Breakathon - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/breakathon-at-pagerduty-summit19-tickets-65736757411 https://twitter.com/mattstratton

Coté has a late night, mental breakdown about scorecards. Can Brandon save him? Also, kafka, Travis CI, and snow. Relevant to your interests Atlassian surpassed $1B in calendar-year revenue in 2018 (https://www.zdnet.com/article/atlassian-surpassed-1b-in-calendar-year-revenue-in-2018/) Google remains the top open-source contributor to CNCF projects (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/17/google-remains-the-top-open-source-contributor-to-cncf-projects/) Oracle exec: Open-source vendors locking down licences proves 'they were never really open (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/17/oracle_exec_opensource_vendors_locking_down_licenses_proves_they_were_never_really_open/)’ Morgan Stanley Downgrades Oracle Stock on Dim Growth Prospects (https://www.barrons.com/articles/oracle-stock-morgan-stanley-downgrades-51547572633) Vodafone signs $550m deal with IBM to offload cloud biz (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/18/vodafone_signs_550m_deal_with_ibm_to_offload_cloud_biz/) Insiders say that Google's new cloud boss is likely to make some very large acquisitions (https://www.businessinsider.com/new-google-cloud-ceo-thomas-kurian-acquisitions-2019-1) 'The goal is to automate us': welcome to the age of surveillance capitalism (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/20/shoshana-zuboff-age-of-surveillance-capitalism-google-facebook) Just forget what Gartner said about AI in June 'cos CIOs are all over it now apparently (http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/21/gartner_ai_cio_research/) Open-Source Unicorn: Confluent Reaches $2.5 Billion Valuation Three Years After Hiring Its First Sales Rep (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2019/01/23/open-source-unicorn-confluent-reaches-25-billion-valuation-three-years-after-hiring-its-first-sales-rep/) Travis CI joins the Idera family (https://blog.travis-ci.com/2019-01-23-travis-ci-joins-idera-inc) IBM Boasts Another Big Win, Touts Hybrid Cloud Prowess (https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/ibm-boasts-another-big-win-touts-hybrid-cloud-prowess/2019/01/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=sdxcentral) Microsoft wins cloud business from Albertsons as fear of Amazon grows among retailers (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/microsoft-signs-cloud-deal-with-albertsons.html) Non Sense Oreo Competitor Makes Federal Case Out of ‘Cutthroat’ Cookie Rivalry (https://www.wsj.com/articles/food-fight-in-the-cookie-aislehydrox-vs-oreo-turns-cutthroat-11547740235) ROAD TRIP! Buc-ee's opens 1st location outside of Texas (https://abc13.com/business/road-trip-buc-ees-opens-1st-location-outside-of-texas/5099836/) Sponsors Solarwinds To learn more or try the company’s DevOps products for free, visit https://solarwinds.com/devops. Arrested DevOps Subscribe to the Arrested DevOps podcast by visiting https://www.arresteddevops.com/ Conferences, et. al. ALERT! DevOpsDays Discount - DevOpsDays MSP (https://www.devopsdays.org/events/2019-minneapolis/welcome/), August 6th to 7th, $50 off with the code SDT2019 (https://www.eventbrite.com/e/devopsdays-minneapolis-2019-tickets-51444848928?discount=SDT2019). 2019, a city near you: The 2019 SpringTours are posted (http://springonetour.io/). Coté will be speaking at many of these, hopefully all the ones in EMEA. They’re free and all about programming and DevOps things. Free lunch and stickers! Jan 28th to 29th, 2019 - SpringOne Tour Charlotte (https://springonetour.io/2019/charlotte), $50 off with the code S1Tour2019_100. Feb 12th to 13th, 2019 - SpringOne Tour St. Louis (https://springonetour.io/2019/st-louis). $50 off the code S1Tour2019_100. Mar 7th to 8th, 2019 - Incontro DevOps in Bologna (https://2019.incontrodevops.it/), Coté speaking. Mar 13th, 2019 - Coté speaking at (platform as a product) (https://www.meetup.com/Continuous-Delivery-Amsterdam/events/258120367/) - Continuous Delivery, Amsterdam. Mar 18th to 19th, 2019 - SpringOne Tour London (https://springonetour.io/2019/london). Get £50 off ticket price of £150 with the code S1Tour2019_100. Mar 21st to 2nd, 2019 (https://springonetour.io/2019/amsterdam) - SpringOne Tour Amsterdam. Get €50 off ticket price of €150 with the code S1Tour2019_100. Get a Free SDT T-Shirt Write an iTunes review of SDT and get a free SDT T-Shirt. Write an iTunes Review on the SDT iTunes Page. 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Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Recommendations Brandon: (https://www.audible.com/pd/Billion-Dollar-Whale-Audiobook/1478948000?qid=1548351044&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=e81b7c27-6880-467a-b5a7-13cef5d729fe&pf_rd_r=D3A67G0APYVG06H98NGK&)Billion Dollar Whale (https://www.audible.com/pd/Billion-Dollar-Whale-Audiobook/1478948000?qid=1548351044&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=e81b7c27-6880-467a-b5a7-13cef5d729fe&pf_rd_r=D3A67G0APYVG06H98NGK&), Malaysia Wants Goldman’s Money Back (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-01-18/malaysia-wants-goldman-s-money-back). Coté: UNIQLO HEATTECH (https://www.uniqlo.com/uk/en/men/featured/heattech), as soft as a fancy conference t-shirt. Herbarium (https://www.ceskatelevize.cz/telexport/programmes?kategorie=24&porad=770), dubbed in English - “that’s Jim’s spatula!” Outro: "'93 'til Infinity." (https://genius.com/Souls-of-mischief-93-til-infinity-lyrics)

Are we still on that open source licensing thing? Yes. “The most boring topic of all time.” Also, Slack's logo and long term support software monetization models: how do they work? Summary: “Diapers.com buster (AKA Amazon)” “What is someone really selling with LTS?” “Artful genitals.” “It’s not butt ducks” “I’ve had three dogs since then…” Microsoft laughed. This week’s cover art from TheNextWeb (https://thenextweb.com/apps/2019/01/16/slack-has-a-new-logo-and-umm-you-be-the-judge/). MONGO, MONGO, MONGO! MongoDB Issues New Server Side Public License for MongoDB Community Server (https://www.mongodb.com/press/mongodb-issues-new-server-side-public-license-for-mongodb-community-server) MongoDB not in RHEL 8.0 (https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8-beta/html/8.0_beta_release_notes/new-features#web_servers_databases_dynamic_languages_2) MongoDB "open-source" Server Side Public License rejected (https://www.zdnet.com/article/mongodb-open-source-server-side-public-license-rejected/) AWS vs. open source: DocumentDB is the latest battlefront (https://www.infoworld.com/article/3331903/database/aws-vs-open-source-documentdb-is-the-latest-battlefront.html) AWS gives open source the middle finger (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/09/aws-gives-open-source-the-middle-finger/) AWS, MongoDB, and the Economic Realities of Open Source (https://stratechery.com/2019/aws-mongodb-and-the-economic-realities-of-open-source/) (Ben Thompson) Fine, fine…but music companies didn’t “sell” CDs, they sold music. Authors don’t “sell” printed books, they sell stories. They sell IP. The medium isn’t the product. “This trade-off is inescapable, and it is fair to wonder if the golden age of VC-funded open source companies will start to fade (although not open source generally). The monetization model depends on the friction of on-premise software; once cloud computing is dominant, the economic model is much more challenging.” There’s some ponderous gyrating between public cloud being good at managed hosting/services (they run the stuff well) vs. software (their features are unique/good). Ben’s follow-up (https://stratechery.com/2019/mongodb-follow-up-aws-incentives-batteries-the-iphones-missing-miss/#memberful_done) (subscription required): “ Atlas was only 8% of total revenue last year, which grew 57% year-over-year; that means that Atlas itself grew 330% year-over-year, from $3.3 million to $14.3 million. Of course cost of revenue grew 68% as well, thanks to a $4.1 million increase in hosting costs (AWS wins either way), but particularly given the addition of a free Atlas offering, those costs aren’t out of line.” So, with this “SSPL” thing, AWS would have to open source all of itself, or just the DocumentDB part? Here (https://www.zdnet.com/article/mongodb-open-source-server-side-public-license-rejected/): “The specific objection is that SSPL requires, if you offer services licensed under it, that you must open-source all programs that you use to make the software available as a service. From Mongo’s press release on SSPL, Oct. 2018 (https://www.mongodb.com/press/mongodb-issues-new-server-side-public-license-for-mongodb-community-server): “The only substantive change is an explicit condition that any organization attempting to exploit MongoDB as a service must open source the software that it uses to offer such service.” What would happen if AWS was all open source? Given that few companies could use OpenStack or make their own clouds (even with cloud.com and such), just having the code matters little to a successful cloud business, right? Or, maybe it doesn’t mean all of AWS, just the DocumentDB part. Which is, really, the in the spirit of the GPL. The competitive tactic of forcing competitors to open source their stuff is weird. Relevant to your interests Amazon reportedly acquired Israeli disaster recovery service CloudEndure for around $200M (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/08/amazon-reportedly-acquired-israeli-disaster-recovery-service-cloudendure-for-around-200m/) AWS makes another acquisition grabbing TSO Logic (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/15/aws-makes-another-acquisition-grabbing-tso-logic/) IBM Just Unveiled The First Commercial Quantum Computer (https://www.sciencealert.com/ibm-unveils-a-quantum-computer-that-will-be-available-to-businesses) “Watson! Whatever happened to ‘unikernal’?” Is that one in the bag and this is the new thing? Announcing TriggerMesh Knative Lambda Runtime (KLR) | Multicloud Serverless Management Platform (https://triggermesh.com/2019/01/09/announcing-triggermesh-knative-lambda-runtime-klr/) Serverless computing: one step forward, two steps back (https://blog.acolyer.org/2019/01/14/serverless-computing-one-step-forward-two-steps-back/) Day Two Kubernetes: Tools for Operability (https://www.infoq.com/presentations/kubernetes-tools) Taking the smarts out of smart TVs would make them more expensive (https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/7/18172397/airplay-2-homekit-vizio-tv-bill-baxter-interview-vergecast-ces-2019) OneLogin snares $100M investment to expand identity solution into new markets (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/10/onelogin-snares-100m-investment-to-expand-identity-solution-into-new-markets/) Want to get rich from bug bounties? You're better off exterminating roaches for a living (http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/15/bugs_bounty_salary/) Direct Listings Are a Thing Now (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-01-11/direct-listings-are-a-thing-now) Software Maker PagerDuty Files Confidentially for IPO (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-15/software-maker-pagerduty-is-said-to-file-confidentially-for-ipo) Slack’s Financials Ahead of Listing Plans (https://www.theinformation.com/articles/slacks-financials-ahead-of-listing-plans) - “As of October 2018, the firm had roughly $900 million in cash on its balance sheet.” Fiserve buying FirstData for $22bn (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/16/fiserv-is-buying-first-data-in-a-22b-fintech-megadeal/?guccounter=1) - FundsXpress (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/fundsxpress)! The 773 Million Record "Collection #1" Data Breach (https://www.troyhunt.com/the-773-million-record-collection-1-data-reach/) AWS launches Backup, a fully-managed backup service for AWS (https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/16/aws-launches-backup-to-let-you-back-up-your-on-premises-and-aws-data-to-aws/) ## Non Sense The WELL: State of the World 2019 (https://people.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/506/State-of-the-World-2019-page01.html) Apple reportedly replaced about 10 times more iPhone batteries than it expected to (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/apple-upgraded-10-to-11-million-batteries-according-to-report.html) Say hello, new logo (https://slackhq.com/say-hello-new-logo) Sponsors Plastic SCM Visit https://plasticscm.com/SDT (https://www.plasticscm.com/sdt?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=jingle&utm_campaign=SDT&utm_term=DevOps&utm_content=mergebots) to find out more and get some sassy t-shirts!! 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Matt and Brandon discuss the“Non-Compete Software” movement, management changes at Chef and how Github just made everyone’s live a little easier. Plus, we offer tips for Dad’s traveling with kids. Relevant to your interests The Non-Compete Software Movement (https://medium.com/@adamhjk/the-non-compete-software-movement-46996a86e9ca) The Cyclical Theory of Open Source (https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2018/12/21/cycles-oss/) community, you keep using that word – Drew Clay (https://medium.com/@drewmusing/community-you-keep-using-that-word-61f038a7dbea) Optimizing impact: why I will not start an Envoy platform company (https://medium.com/@mattklein123/optimizing-impact-why-i-will-not-start-an-envoy-platform-company-8904286658cb) The future of Kubernetes is Virtual Machines (http://tech.paulcz.net/blog/future-of-kubernetes-is-virtual-machines/) Dell returns to market with NYSE listing (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dell-ipo-idUSKCN1OR14E) GitHub now gives free users unlimited private repositories (https://thenextweb.com/dd/2019/01/05/github-now-gives-free-users-unlimited-private-repositories/) This is the final straw, evil Microsoft. Making private GitHub repos free? You've gone too far (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/01/07/github_free_private_repos/) GitLab Uses TriggerMesh to Offer Knative-Based Serverless Workflows (https://thenewstack.io/gitlab-uses-triggermesh-to-offer-knative-based-serverless-workflows/) Announcing TriggerMesh Knative Lambda Runtime (KLR) (https://triggermesh.com/2019/01/09/announcing-triggermesh-knative-lambda-runtime-klr/) CloudCast Episode Serverless Management and Knative (http://www.thecloudcast.net/2018/12/serverless-management-and-knative.html) (https://m.subbu.org/contemporary-views-on-serverless-and-implications-1c5907c611d8)- Contemporary Views on Serverless and Implications (https://m.subbu.org/contemporary-views-on-serverless-and-implications-1c5907c611d8) The Results are in … The State of K8s 2018 – Heptio (https://blog.heptio.com/the-results-are-in-the-state-of-k8s-2018-d25e54819416) Here's What VMware Paid for Kubernetes Startup Heptio (https://www.lightreading.com/enterprise-cloud/infrastructure-and-platform/heres-what-vmware-paid-for-kubernetes-startup-heptio/d/d-id/748317) Chef co-founder and CTO Adam Jacob stepping down, will remain on board of directors (http://Chef co-founder and CTO Adam Jacob stepping down, will remain on board of directors) Sponsors Solarwinds To learn more or try the company’s DevOps products for free, visit http://appoptics.com/sdt. Arrested DevOps Subscribe to the Arrested DevOps podcast by visiting https://www.arresteddevops.com/. Conferences, et. al. 2019, a city near you: The 2019 SpringTours are posted (http://springonetour.io/). Coté will be speaking at many of these, hopefully all the ones in EMEA. They’re free and all about programming and DevOps things. Free lunch and stickers! Jan 28th to 29th, 2019 - SpringOne Tour Charlotte (https://springonetour.io/2019/charlotte). Feb 12th to 13th, 2019 - SpringOne Tour St. Louis (https://springonetour.io/2019/st-louis). Mar 7th to 8th, 2019 - Incontro DevOps in Bologna (https://2019.incontrodevops.it/), Coté speaking. Mar 18th to 19th, 2019 - SpringOne Tour London (https://springonetour.io/2019/london). Get £50 off ticket price of £150 with the code S1Tour2019_100. Mar 21st to 2nd, 2019 (https://springonetour.io/2019/amsterdam) - SpringOne Tour Amsterdam. Get €50 off ticket price of €150 with the code S1Tour2019_100. 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Should cloud providers be able to host open source software? Exactly, what does the Australia Assistance Act mean for employees? What is Melbourne Cup Day? We answer these questions and more. Enjoy! More on the Australia Assistance and Access Act Australia's encryption laws are 'highly unlikely' to dragoon employees in secret (https://www.zdnet.com/article/australias-encryption-laws-are-highly-unlikely-to-dragoon-employees-in-secret/) What's actually in Australia's encryption laws? Everything you need to know (https://www.zdnet.com/article/whats-actually-in-australias-encryption-laws-everything-you-need-to-know/) Does Australia's access and assistance law impact 1Password? | 1Password (https://blog.1password.com/does-australias-access-and-assistance-law-impact-1password/) Relevant to your interests Chef co-founder Adam Jacob launches new effort to define “sustainable” open-source software (https://www.geekwire.com/2018/chef-co-founder-adam-jacob-launches-new-effort-define-sustainable-open-source-software/) We need Sustainable Free and Open Source Communities (http://bwhichard [11:57 AM] https://medium.com/sustainable-free-and-open-source-communities/we-need-sustainable-free-and-open-source-communities-edf92723d619) License Changes for Confluent Platform | Confluent (https://www.confluent.io/blog/license-changes-confluent-platform) Concerned about cloud providers, Confluent becomes latest open-source company to set new restrictions on usage (https://www.geekwire.com/2018/concerned-cloud-providers-confluent-becomes-latest-open-source-company-set-new-restrictions-usage/) Open source confronts its midlife crisis by Bryan Cantrill (http://dtrace.org/blogs/bmc/2018/12/14/open-source-confronts-its-midlife-crisis/) A Quick Comment On Bryan Cantrill’s Blog On Licensing (https://medium.com/@jaykreps/a-quick-comment-on-bryan-cantrills-blog-on-licensing-8dccee41d9e6) GE to Sell Part of Digital Business (https://www.wsj.com/articles/ge-to-sell-part-of-digital-business-11544707732) 1980s Amiga has been running the AC and heat in 19 schools for 30 years - Geek.com (https://www.geek.com/geek-cetera/commodore-amiga-computer-has-been-running-the-acheat-in-19-schools-for-30-years-1625147/) A is for Austin (https://apple.substack.com/p/a-is-for-austin?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=twitter) 3D-printed heads let hackers – and cops – unlock your phone (https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/16/3d-printed-heads-unlock-cops-hackers/) MIPS Goes Open Source (https://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1334087) You wait for one IT giant to show up with its sales figures, then two come at once: Red Hat, Oracle (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/18/red_hat_oracle_calendar_q3_2018/) (https://stratechery.com/2018/tumblrs-app-store-ban-tumblrs-nsfw-deadline-verizon-writes-down-oath/)- Tumblr’s App Store Ban, Tumblr’s NSFW Deadline, Verizon Writes Down Oath (https://stratechery.com/2018/tumblrs-app-store-ban-tumblrs-nsfw-deadline-verizon-writes-down-oath/) Nonsense Chase Sapphire Banking (https://accounts.chase.com/sapphire/brand?mklSoc=t) Melbourne Cup Day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Cup) Sponsors Solarwinds Over 275,000 customers worldwide and 499 of the Fortune 500 trust and rely on SolarWinds for their monitoring software. To learn more or try the company’s DevOps products for free, visit http://solarwinds.com/devops. Arrested DevOps Subscribe to the Arrested DevOps podcast by visiting https://www.arresteddevops.com/ or by searching for “Arrested DevOps” in your favorite podcast app. Conferences, et. al. 2019, a city near you: The 2019 SpringTours are posted (http://springonetour.io/). Coté will be speaking at many of these, hopefully all the ones in EMEA. They’re free and all about programming and DevOps things. Free lunch and stickers! ## Get a Free SDT T-Shirt Write an iTunes review of SDT and get a free SDT T-Shirt. Write an iTunes Review on the SDT iTunes Page. (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/software-defined-talk/id893738521?mt=2) Send an email to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and include the following: T-Shirt Size (Only Large or X-Large remain), Preferred Color (Gray, Black) and Postal address. First come, first serve. while supplies last! Can only ship T-Shirts within the United States SDT news & hype Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/softwaredeftalk), Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/softwaredefinedtalk/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/software-defined-talk/) Send your postal address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you a sticker. Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast (https://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/). Check out the back catalog (http://cote.coffee/howtotech/) Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quick-concall/id1399948033?mt=8) and he wants you to buy it for $0.99. Recommendations Brandon: Apple Music to work on other Alexa-enabled devices (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/apple-music-will-soon-work-on-third-party-alexa-devices-too/) Matt: Emacs Tramp Mode (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TrampMode): transparent access to files and remote access. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spider_man_into_the_spider_verse/)

Nell and Nathen teamed up with Matty and Trevor from the Arrested Devops podcast while at ChefConf 2018. The episode was recorded in the ChefConf Demo Theatre before a live audience.

The O’Reilly Programming Podcast: Containers, orchestrators, and new projects.In this episode of the O’Reilly Programming Podcast, I talk about Kubernetes, containers, and more with Bridget Kromhout, a principal cloud developer advocate at Microsoft, and a frequent speaker at tech conferences. She will be leading the workshop Kubernetes 101 at the O’Reilly Velocity Conference in San Jose, June 11-14, 2018, and at the O’Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON), July 16-19, 2018.Discussion points: The role that Docker played in popularizing containers. “Docker democratized containers and made them more available so that it increased adoption significantly,” Kromhout says. “You didn’t need to be a kernel expert; you could use containers as a developer without needing to focus on kernel features.” The main parts of a Kubernetes architecture, including the master and nodes, and a look at a Kubernetes cluster Some open source projects that are making Kubernetes easier to use, including kubicorn, which makes it possible to manage clusters across clouds. Kromhout’s work as the lead organizer for devopsdays, a worldwide series of technical conferences covering software development, IT infrastructure operations, and the intersection between them. “It’s really a powerful mechanism to let people in an area start sharing across organizations, and figuring out where they can learn from each other,” she says. Other links: Kromhout is co-host of the Arrested DevOps podcast. Video of Kromhout’s presentation Containers will not fix your broken culture and other hard truths at the 2016 O’Reilly Velocity Conference Microsoft’s Azure Container Service (AKS) Kubernetes-related projects at heptio, Brigade, Istio, and Honeycomb Video of Kromhout’s keynote Computers are easy; people are hard at the 2017 O’Reilly Software Architecture Conference

The O’Reilly Programming Podcast: Containers, orchestrators, and new projects.In this episode of the O’Reilly Programming Podcast, I talk about Kubernetes, containers, and more with Bridget Kromhout, a principal cloud developer advocate at Microsoft, and a frequent speaker at tech conferences. She will be leading the workshop Kubernetes 101 at the O’Reilly Velocity Conference in San Jose, June 11-14, 2018, and at the O’Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON), July 16-19, 2018.Discussion points: The role that Docker played in popularizing containers. “Docker democratized containers and made them more available so that it increased adoption significantly,” Kromhout says. “You didn’t need to be a kernel expert; you could use containers as a developer without needing to focus on kernel features.” The main parts of a Kubernetes architecture, including the master and nodes, and a look at a Kubernetes cluster Some open source projects that are making Kubernetes easier to use, including kubicorn, which makes it possible to manage clusters across clouds. Kromhout’s work as the lead organizer for devopsdays, a worldwide series of technical conferences covering software development, IT infrastructure operations, and the intersection between them. “It’s really a powerful mechanism to let people in an area start sharing across organizations, and figuring out where they can learn from each other,” she says. Other links: Kromhout is co-host of the Arrested DevOps podcast. Video of Kromhout’s presentation Containers will not fix your broken culture and other hard truths at the 2016 O’Reilly Velocity Conference Microsoft’s Azure Container Service (AKS) Kubernetes-related projects at heptio, Brigade, Istio, and Honeycomb Video of Kromhout’s keynote Computers are easy; people are hard at the 2017 O’Reilly Software Architecture Conference

Dropbox made $1.1bn last year, which is mind-blowing. What can we learn from the way Dropbox wiggled it’s way into so many people’s lives (11m paying users, it seems) versus competitors like Box? Well, probably a lot more than where Apple, Spotify, and Dropbox run their stuff in - or out! - of the cloud, a topic we also discuss. Also, sheep-skin shoes are hot, too hot. Also, something about dtrace and zfs, I don’t know - just listen to it. This episode brought to you by: Datadog! This episode is sponsored by Datadog, a monitoring platform for cloud-scale infrastructure and applications. Built by engineers, for engineers, Datadog provides visibility into more than 200 technologies, including AWS, Chef, and Docker, with built-in metric dashboards and automated alerts. With end-to-end request tracing, Datadog provides visibility into your applications and their underlying infrastructure—all in one place. Sign up for a free trial (https://www.datadoghq.com/lpgs/?utm_source=Advertisement&utm_medium=Advertisement&utm_campaign=SoftwareDefinedTalk-Tshirt-Native). Datadog also offers Forecast Alerts (https://www.datadoghq.com/blog/forecasts-datadog/), which makes it easy to get notified of potential problems before they cause outages. Read more at: https://www.datadoghq.com/blog/forecasts-datadog/ (https://www.datadoghq.com/blog/forecasts-datadog/) What even is a “Dropbox”? Now that we know they generated $1.1bn in revenue (http://tomtunguz.com/dropbox-s-1/) in CY2017 (with -10% op margins, translating to a loss of $111.7m (https://www.barrons.com/articles/dropbox-files-s1-with-1b-revenue-lots-of-restricted-stock-1519420407) and actual cash flow)…we should probably contemplate how they fit in. 451 estimates a valuation at $8bn+ (https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=94433&type=mis&alertid=1161&contactid=0033200001wgKCKAA2&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=market-insight&utm_content=newsletter&utm_term=94433-Dropbox+opens+up+to+public+markets). More: “Dropbox has taken just over 10 years to go public since its founding in 2007, which we attribute to anxiety over its high private valuation, a sizable profitability gap, and the dour outlook often associated with the EFSS segment.” More from 451 (https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=94433&type=mis&alertid=1161&contactid=0033200001wgKCKAA2&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=market-insight&utm_content=newsletter&utm_term=94433-Dropbox+opens+up+to+public+markets): “Its net loss ($111m) shrank by nearly half from 2016 – a faster pace than its topline growth. Its relative sales and marketing costs are lower than most of its peers. The vendor spent 28% of its revenue on sales and marketing – half the level of Box, a fellow FSS compatriot that's half the size as Dropbox." Man, think of the shit-per diem an travel policies for last year. E.g., who knew they were so widely used by normals?! 11m+ paying users, they says (https://www.barrons.com/articles/dropbox-files-s1-with-1b-revenue-lots-of-restricted-stock-1519420407). (But (https://451research.com/report-short?entityId=94433&type=mis&alertid=1161&contactid=0033200001wgKCKAA2&utm_source=sendgrid&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=market-insight&utm_content=newsletter&utm_term=94433-Dropbox+opens+up+to+public+markets), it’s 45 to 1 free to pay.) Do we think GDrive/G Suite is this big? I mean, it must be at least once you throw in Docs and GMail. Gartner’s 2016 estimates (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-alphabet-gsuite/googles-g-suite-is-no-microsoft-killer-but-still-winning-converts-idUSKBN1FL3ZX): “$1.3 billion in G Suite sales ranked a distant No. 2 behind Office’s $13.8 billion, according to 2016 data from Gartner.” Checks out (https://medium.com/@raj_57679/how-big-is-g-suite-within-alphabets-other-revenue-q1-2017-9823783abc97). Tech Co.’s using Google Cloud Apple on Google (https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/27/apple-now-relies-on-google-cloud-platform-and-amazon-s3-for-icloud-data/) for iCloud (but also AWS for the same), Spotify on Google (http://www.zdnet.com/article/with-spotify-google-cloud-platform-gets-its-anchor-all-in-customer/), Dropbox on their own cloud (https://www.geekwire.com/2018/dropbox-saved-almost-75-million-two-years-building-tech-infrastructure/) (see Ben’s “turns out!” analysis (https://stratechery.com/2018/dropboxs-cost-of-revenue-cost-of-revenue-and-churn-cloudy-dropbox/)). Does this matter for normals? “Dropbox is likely an outlier with its successful cloud data migration off AWS.” (http://searchaws.techtarget.com/blog/AWS-Cloud-Cover/Dropbox-is-likely-an-outlier-with-its-successful-cloud-data-migration-off-AWS) Wired’s write-up on the migration (https://www.wired.com/2016/03/epic-story-dropboxs-exodus-amazon-cloud-empire/) from 2016 Relevant to your interests Pants are sized wrong (https://www.esquire.com/style/mens-fashion/a8386/pants-size-chart-090710/). DTrace going GPL-compatible (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/19/oracle_open_sources_dtrace_changes_licence_to_gpl/) Arrested DevOps talking with Andrew Shafer and Bryan Cantrill (https://www.arresteddevops.com/yelling-at-cloud/) The ongoing nothingburger of blockchain-beyond-bitcoin (https://www.geekwire.com/2018/microsofts-guthrie-claims-azure-seeing-blockchain-momentum-thats-not-moving-cloud-needle-time-soon/): “The only mass-market use of blockchain technology right now is bitcoin, and you can certainly debate just how widespread a market that really is. Lots of people are interested in blockchain’s distributed ledger system as a potential way to cut out the middleman in transactions between manufacturers or retailers and their suppliers, but the number of people actually using blockchain technology for those types of services right now is quite small.” More: “The entire market for blockchain services in 2017 — and not necessarily cloud vendor-provided blockchain services — sits at $708 million, according to a report from WinterGreen Research cited by The Information. By comparison, Gartner said last September that it expects cloud services revenue will have reached $260.2 billion in 2017.” WinterGreen, sittin’ in hot tubs, smokin’ those L’s: “In that report, WinterGreen also predicts astounding growth of 757 percent in that blockchain market by 2024 to $60.7 billion, which is among the most dramatic forward-looking statements I’ve seen in a while.” The concept of the millennial is dead (http://www.channelfutures.com/channel-futures/why-are-we-still-talking-about-millennial-problem-workforce). Time to start complaining and belly-aching about how simpering and fucked up the current generation of The Kids are. Conferences, et. al. March 9th to 13th, SXSW (https://www.sxsw.com/) - Brandon in Austin giving out stickers. Coté needs excuses to expense meals and drinks. March 22-23 - DevOps Talks Conference (http://www.devopstalks.com/), Melbourne Matt speaking April 26-27, DevOpsDays Jakarta (http://devopsdays.org/events/2018-jakarta/) - Matt (https://twitter.com/agilecircleindo/status/969511498287493120) is keynoting (https://twitter.com/agilecircleindo/status/969511498287493120), and Coté will be speaking too (https://twitter.com/agilecircleindo/status/969511498287493120). May 15th to 18th, 2018 - Coté talking EA at Continuous Lifecycle London (https://continuouslifecycle.london/sessions/the-death-of-enterprise-architecture-defeating-the-devops-microservices-and-cloud-native-assassins/). May 22-25, ChefConf 2018 (https://chefconf.chef.io/), in Chicago. SDT news & hype Check out Software Defined Interviews (http://www.softwaredefinedinterviews.com/), our new podcast. Pretty self-descriptive, plus the #exegesis podcast we’ve been doing, all in one, for free. Keep up with the weekly newsletter (https://us1.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=ce6149b4008d62a08093a4fa6&id=5877922e21). Join us in Slack (http://www.softwaredefinedtalk.com/slack). Buy some t-shirts (https://fsgprints.myshopify.com/collections/software-defined-talk)! DISCOUNT CODE: SDTFSG (20% off) Send your name and address to stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com (mailto:stickers@softwaredefinedtalk.com) and we will send you a sticker. Recommendations Matt: Bose QuietComfort 20 headphones (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00X9KVVQK/) Brandon: Version Control (https://www.audible.com/pd/Sci-Fi-Fantasy/Version-Control-Audiobook/B01BKY8A8I). Coté: Starbuck’s Blonde roast; low-sodium Kirkland bacon - turns out! - no sugar.

Bridget Kromhout is a DevOps professional with a passion for giving back to her community. In her professional working life so far, Bridget spent 15 years as an operations engineer, and now works at Microsoft as a Principal Cloud Developer Advocate. Her spare time is full of tech-related and volunteer activities: she leads the worldwide conference organization Devopsdays, runs community tech events in her home city of Minneapolis, co-hosts the Arrested DevOps podcast, and frequently participates in tech conferences as both a speaker and committee member. In our conversation, Bridget talks about how she worked her way through college, what the day-to-day of being a tech advocate looks like, her experiences attending, chairing, and speaking at tech conferences, and the various side projects she's involved in to do her part in helping others.

In this episode Andy Davis talks to Bridget Kromhout & Tim Gross. On the show they discuss DevOps and its links with your company's culture, the best practices for building a well rounded DevOps team and some of the misconceptions surrounding the DevOps title. Bridget Kromhout is a Principal Cloud Developer Advocate at Microsoft. Her CS degree emphasis was in theory, but she now deals with the concrete (if 'cloud' can be considered tangible). After 15 years as an operations engineer, she traded being on call for being on a plane. A frequent speaker and program committee member for tech conferences, she leads the devopsdays organization globally and the devops community at home in Minneapolis. She podcasts with Arrested DevOps and blogs at bridgetkromhout.com. Tim Gross: is a technologist, operations engineer and product developer. He is currently a principal DevOps engineer at Density. His previous career in high-assurance architecture has driven him to develop an operations mindset for robust and observable technology. He has a proven nose for hunting down and eliminating technical debt and process inefficiencies in organisations of all shapes and sizes. Show Notes; 1.18 DevOps as the prime example of technical people needing a broader skills set to succeed in the 21st century. 4.08 Have you seen any organisational struggles erupt due to technological advances. 7.23 DevOps and its links with company culture. 8.32 Is there an element of misconception about the role of DevOps. 10.32 Who pushes the cultural change in a business when adopting a DevOps approach? 13.39 DevOps links with open source sharing tech communities. 19.53 Proactively looking externally for information to stop yourself working within a bubble. 21.07 Building and managing a DevOps teams. 24.16 Tackling industry stereotypes. 26.32 The influx of new personalities in technology. 31.11 Talking about culture, DevOps and Arrested DevOps.

Food Fight teamed up with Arrested DevOps to host a live DevOps call in show where Dr. Nicole Forsgren answered audience questions about devops, metrics, and more!

It's a special interloper episode from Australia! Matt Ray guests on the Arrested DevOps show live-to-tape from DevOpsDays Sydney, along with Bridget Kromhout, Matthew Jones, Lindsay Holmwood, Mick Pollard, Katie McLaughlin. Special Guest: Bridget Kromhout.

In the same week that the Chicago Cubs finally won the World Series, Pauly Comtois is finally a guest on Arrested DevOps! Pauly is the VP of DevOps for Heart Business Media, and he shares with us some of the challenges (and successes) of effecting a DevOps transformation at a large enterprise.

In the same week that the Chicago Cubs finally won the World Series, Pauly Comtois is finally a guest on Arrested DevOps! Pauly is the VP of DevOps for Heart Business Media, and he shares with us some of the challenges (and successes) of effecting a DevOps transformation at a large enterprise.

This is a joint recording with Arrested DevOps and Software Defined Talk.

At DevOpsDays DFW, Coté recorded a joint-podcast with Arrested DevOps and The Food Fight Show. Along with some local guests, we discuss the event, DevOpsDays, and computers in North Texas.

Nathen Harvey (@nathenharvey), VP of Community Development at Chef Software, joins us to discuss modern devops culture, tools, and practices as well as how Chef Software can help teams automate, scale, and reproduce tasks, and environments. Nathen defined devops as how to build high velocity organizations by reducing build and deployment cycles. Topics includes how to manage your infrastructure like code, devops community, Chef cookbooks and recipes, and improving your devops knowledge and processes as web developer.   Resources Chef & Habitat http://www.chef.io - Main Website http://learn.chef.io - Tutorials and such for getting started with Chef & DevOps DevOps Kung Fu - A talk from ChefConf 2015 that describes and defines the Principles, Forms, and Application of DevOps.  It's also where I get my definition of DevOps from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DEToXsgrPc - YouTube video of the talk https://github.com/chef/devops-kungfu - GitHub repository of the talk http://chef.github.io/devops-kungfu/#/ - slides from the talk http://chef.github.io/devops-kungfu/#/15 - definition of DevOps - A cultural and professional movement, focused on how we build and operate high velocity organizations, born from the experiences of its practitioners. Open source Chef maintenance policy - https://github.com/chef/chef-rfc/blob/master/rfc030-maintenance-policy.md https://www.habitat.sh/ - Habitat website which includes an overview of Habitat, online demo, and tutorials Podcasts Food Fight Show - http://foodfightshow.org Arrested DevOps - https://www.arresteddevops.com/ DevOps Cafe - http://devopscafe.org/ The Ship Show - http://theshipshow.com/   Conferences DevOpsDays - http://www.devopsdays.org/ ChefConf - https://chefconf.chef.io/ Surge - https://surge.omniti.com/2016 Velocity - http://conferences.oreilly.com/velocity DevOps Enterprise Summit - http://events.itrevolution.com/ Puppet - https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet

In this episode, DevOps Radio host Andre Pino sits down with Bridget Kromhout, principal technologist at Pivotal and Arrested DevOps host, to discuss trends and the importance of the ‘Ops’ side of DevOps.  

In this episode we team up with Arrested DevOps to talk about our experiences working for vendors and being on the customer side of the table. We discuss how modern software sales have changed, especially with the advent of open … Continue reading →

Arrested DevOps teams up with The Goat Farm (http://goatcan.do) to talk about the ways that sales folks, solution architects, and other vendor roles can help be a partner to your organization and not just a necessary evil

Arrested DevOps teams up with The Goat Farm (http://goatcan.do) to talk about the ways that sales folks, solution architects, and other vendor roles can help be a partner to your organization and not just a necessary evil

All aboard for an episode of trainspotting, hobos and lamenting the loss of the bar car. James and Emily raise their glasses to one of the greatest marvels of transportation and, dare we say it, a highlight of our daily commute. This episode's wine: Double Dog Dare Cabernet (We're still in shock it was only $3)This episode's cheese: Cabot white cheddar In this episode, James professes his child-like love for train travel and gives reasons why commuting by train is the best, including being environmentally friendly without being pretentious, plus learn about his tips to avoid paying the fare.   Emily complains about Ryan Gosling's ticket-taker doppelganger, who is drunk on his own power, then we get sidetracked talking about how Brad Pitt has Prosopagnosia (face blindness), so more girls should just go up to him and convince him they're Angelina Jolie.   We drop our podcast voices to showcase our actual Connecticut accents to talk about Metro North, and we lament the last bar car in the United States.   Emily gives James the job of catching a fly since he hasn't read any of the Harry Potter books (shame mail for James can be sent to classypodcast@gmail.com) and Harry Potter fans can geek out with her as she talks about Platform 9 3/4 at King's Cross Station. We talk about A queen of England, but not THE queen, unfortunately. We also sympathize with those who have to commute daily from King's Cross, especially if their trains are on Platforms 9 or 10.   While we don't get into the book or movie, "Trainspotting," we do talk about those who trainspot as a hobby, known as railfans. We dive into the different types, from those who record different trains, to those who ride a particular train route, to those who explore abandoned train stations. We also look at the connection between children with autism and the fascination with trains.   James talks about the psychology of train etiquette and the dynamic of ignoring the same people you see every day. (We didn't even acknowledge the fact that this may even be a Northeastern thing, because once you leave this area of the country, people are much friendlier.)   James decides to throw a party for his anonymous train friends and talks about the social dynamics of train seating. He also benefits from the remnants of racism still prevalent in Connecticut, and Emily tells the story of the one time James embarrassed her on the train and why they don't take the train together anymore.   James also scolds Emily for succumbing to click bait and forbids her from the Internet. But, then again, he never gives up the chance to talk about his penis. Yes, somehow we work this tangent into train research.   Emily gets the songs "Cocaine" and "Casey Jones" confused as James tells the story of the real Casey Jones -- not the be confused with Stacy Jones from the original "Shining Time Station."   Emily talks about Ticket to Ride, Wil Wheaton's Tabletop web show, and James asks for FDA-approved hookers when we talk about how John Lennon may or may not have lovingly called the street women of Hamburg Tickets to Ride.   Emily talks about Ticket to Ride, Wil Wheaton's Tabletop web show, and James asks for FDA-approved hookers when we talk about how John Lennon may or may not have lovingly called the street women of Hamburg Tickets to Ride.   Somehow, we get on the subject of the evolution of the poop train and the old Pace salsa commercials. For more information, check out RadioLab's episode all about the Poop Train.   Finally, James gets a chance to expound upon his love of hobos, and we introduce you to one of our favorite time-passing games we used to play when we worked together, "What's in Your Bindle?" James also gets a dreamy look in his eyes as he talks about his desire to ride in a freight train with his legs dangling over the side, exploring the country. Special Thanks Lots of shout-outs this week! Thanks, everyone!   Cheers to Matt from Arrested DevOps for including us as one of his picks of the week, Bum Wine Bob from Bumming with Bobcat for featuring our Classy Sangria recipe, and Rob & Elsie from Libsyn's "The Feed" for playing our promo!   Special thanks to Adam Centamore for his book, "Tasting Wine and Cheese: An Insider's Guide to Mastering the Principles of Pairing" Tasting Wine & Cheese," which we'll be using for our wine and cheese pairing for the next few episodes!   You can follow Adam on Twitter @100loves and ask him for wine pairing suggestions, and we've loved all the help he's given us!   Check out our full show notes at www.classylittlepodcast.com/show-notes/015   Cheers!

Aaron and Brian talk with Bridget Kromhout (@bridgetkromhout, Principal Technologist @pivotal, Co-Host @arresteddevops, @devopsdays Organizer.) about DevOps in practice, running Docker in production, building (or not) your own platform, AWS tools and where Docker fits with Cloud Native applications. Check out O-Reilly's new initiative: Learning Paths. Show Links: Bridget's Blog DevOps Days Arrested DevOps Podcast Topic 1 - Let's talk about your background in Operations, DevOps and now at Pivotal. Topic 2 - How did you shift from working as a grumpy SysAdmin to developing DevOps skills? What types of things are you doing now in the Pivotal Cloud Foundry team? Topic 3 - At OSCON 2015 you spoke about running Docker in production, from your time at DramaFever. Tell us about some of the things you learned and might do differently now? Topic 4 - What advice do you have for people considering the build, buy, rent question for a next-gen application platform? Topic 5 - What areas have you been focused on with your Arrested DevOps podcast?

On this episode of the #BITTechTalk podcast, Greg and Ayori speak with Matt Stratton (Solutions architect at Chef) and Michael Lanyon (VP of Engineering for Critical Mass) about DevOps. Resources mentioned:Arrested DevOps podcast: http://www.arresteddevops.com/Shades of DevOps e-book: http://devopsebook.com/shades-of-devops/The Phoenix Project: http://www.amazon.com/The-Phoenix-Project-Helping-Business/dp/0988262592The Ship Show: http://theshipshow.com/ & http://theshipshow.com/diversityHangOps: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnHWnE3a8_es-NNdX1sTCwwFollow:Matt Stratton : @mattstrattonMichael Lanyon: @lanyonm

On this episode of the #BITTechTalk podcast, Greg and Ayori speak with Matt Stratton (Solutions architect at Chef) and Michael Lanyon (VP of Engineering for Critical Mass) about DevOps. Resources mentioned: Arrested DevOps podcast: http://www.arresteddevops.com/ Shades of DevOps e-book: http://devopsebook.com/shades-of-devops/ The Phoenix Project: http://www.amazon.com/The-Phoenix-Project-Helping-Business/dp/0988262592 The Ship Show: http://theshipshow.com/ & http://theshipshow.com/diversity HangOps: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnHWnE3a8_es-NNdX1sTCww Follow: Matt Stratton : @mattstratton Michael Lanyon: @lanyonm

Matt and Trevor talk about the reason for Arrested DevOps, the format of the show (sort of), and then 'what does DevOps mean?'' Then somehow the topic devolves into open floorspaces and Matt puts his foot in his mouth a few times.

Matt and Trevor talk about the reason for Arrested DevOps, the format of the show (sort of), and then 'what does DevOps mean?'' Then somehow the topic devolves into open floorspaces and Matt puts his foot in his mouth a few times.