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I've been thinking about and talking about this topic a lot recently, and I found myself revisiting this post, so I'm resurfacing it for you today. I originally published this in July 2022.Note: This post is made for listening, but I've included the transcript if you'd rather read.TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Hey there. I wanted to follow up on my other note about one of two things leaders are responsible for. The second one is compensation. And there's a whole lot to unpack there, so let's try to do it through a little bit of a story. I'm going to answer a question I get all the time, and that's “why did you join the army?”[00:00:18] And the reason is pretty simple, it was about compensation.Why did I join the army? [00:00:22] Let's go back 20 years, and it's 9/11. I remember very clearly where I was maybe like, most of you. I was at The Breakers, which is a posh hotel in Palm Beach, Florida.That Tuesday morning, I found myself in a meeting room getting ready to give a presentation on a new piece of software. News started to trickle in that something had happened in New York and it wasn't clear how bad it was.More information would come and we'd realize that something horrific had happened.[AUDIO CLIP]It was a very emotional day for everyone, and we'd spend the balance of it huddled around the TV, listening and trying to learn what was going on? I'm trying to understand what was happening in new Yorkers, what would happen to our country, and what our future would be like? What we did know is it was all going to be very different.A DecisionA couple of days later, I woke up and I made a decision. Channeling a very famous scene from the movie Patton and my grandfather, I decided that I wanted to join the Marine Corps. In fact, I wanted to be a pilot. So I marched down to the Marine Corps recruiting office and I started that process.Over the course of the next few months, and a lot of tests and a lot of things, the Marine Corps told me that I wasn't cut out to do that. They wanted me to be an infantry officer and that's not what I wanted. I think if I look back, it was purely a lack of commitment on my side. Maybe too slow, maybe too colorblind, but if I wanted it, I probably could have gotten it.[00:03:48] And if I'm being honest, I quit. Now the good news is a couple of weeks later I'd say something that would change my life forever and really impact everyone around me.At the hotel, there was a long hallway, a very narrow hallway, the kind where you have to step aside so two people can pass each other. On the walls, they had motivational posters from the 1990s, complete with eagles soaring and all the things. Now, this was the time before we all started pushing pixels via email and you had to get your information from printed documents. Down on the right, there is a small room about the size of a closet. This was a mail room. This is where those documents ended up in little slots on the wall.[00:04:33] I remember that day. I remember what the room smelled like, the temperature, and a beige phone sitting on the counter. My vision started to blur and that phone was my focus and I said out loud, "If there's ever another war, I'm gonna enlist."Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. Skip all your egotistical dreams about being a Marine or a Naval aviator or any of those things. Just go get in the fight, Vohs. Now looking back, that was a little naive - but that's what happened.I had a deep, deep, emotional desire to serve a country that had given me so much. I knew for the rest of my life, that it was going to give me more. I needed to do something about it. I needed to serve. At my core, I wanted to defend freedom as hokey as that sounds. That's my, "why."[00:05:26] It's also part of the reason why I ended up picking to go and special forces because their motto is De Oppresso Liber - "to free the oppressed". Now if I reflect back and go a little deeper, there are other emotions at play here, some of them were, self-centered like a desire for admiration and an immature understanding of war highly influenced by Hollywood.So not long after that speech to myself, we would end up invading Iraq. And whether you agree with the politics or not, that at 26 year old, we returned to that moment in that mail room and that beige telephone and he got to work. Two weeks later, on my mom's birthday, I would end up enlisting. Happy birthday, mom.[00:06:09] Here's the deal. My ratio changed. My compensation ratio.The Compensation Ratio & The Three Types of CompensationEconomical[00:06:21] The first is economical. What am I going to get paid? We all need or want to put food on the table, steaks in the freezer, and Tesla's on the charger. Now as leaders, there are a couple of questions we should ask about the economical form of compensation for our team.* Are people being paid well, and how does it compare to the market?* What would it cost to replace this role?* And most importantly, do they feel valued for what you're paying them?ExperientialThe second is experiential. Everyone, whether they realize it or not wants to grow and get better.* Ask yourself, are you providing an opportunity for people to gain experience? * Are you providing them with opportunities for education? * Is there learning curve steep?A near-vertical learning curve is better. A job that challenges you 90% of the time is the right job. Now here's the thing, I use the word opportunity intentionally because you can't lead a horse to water and make' them drink. But you need to give the team opportunities to learn and grow.Emotional[00:07:20] The last one, and the most important if you asked me, is emotional.The one truly non-renewable resource we have is time. We can't get it back. We want to spend our time doing good things with good people. Things that matter with people we love. We want to wake up and look at our calendar on that little Star Trek inspired device and say, it's going to be a good day. We want to have a deep, emotional connection to the people around us and to the mission. This is where leaders come in. They shine a light on the path. This is the mission, this is where we're headed, and this is why we're going to spend our most valuable currency, time, going after it.What's the right ratio?What's the correct ratio? Only you can answer that and it's probably going to change over the course of your life. Everyone's different.For the most part, there are deep reasons why we do what we do. Stories usually go back to our childhood. Around money, love, admiration, and the other things that have shaped us.[00:08:18] As you think about why people stay on your team or why you do what you do. It's always about compensation.* Do we pay them well?* Are they growing and learning?* Are they connected to what they do and who they do it with?If you don't provide them those opportunities, I promise you, somebody else will.We Want Missionaries, Not Mercenaries[00:08:36] Let's pause for a moment and talk about money. We all have different desires for various reasons. Maybe you need to put food on the table, maybe you want a submarine or a helicopter, and maybe you just need to pay for your great aunt's nursing home that you don't tell anybody about. We may never be able to understand everybody's wants or needs, just let them be them.That said, we have to be very careful when somebody's compensation ratio is near a hundred percent focused on economics. Let's put those living paycheck to paycheck or near poverty aside for a moment. If you have someone on your team that's coming in every single day and all they care about is how much they are making, that's a problem. And that can be caustic. After all, we want missionaries, not mercenaries.My Ratio Changed, Again[00:09:23] Speaking of missions and mercenaries, I would end up getting out of the army and it was because my compensation ratio changed, again.Specifically the emotional part. The mission changed. Princess Buttercup and I had welcomed three barrel-chested freedom fighters into the family. And now it became less about fighting for freedom and more about fighting for them.The new mission for me was to be the very best father and husband I could possibly be. And I felt that I wasn't going to be able to be that person that I wanted to be. [AUDIO CLIP]There are green Berets out there that are able to do both - be an incredible father/husband and be a Green Beret, but that wasn't me. I tip my hat to them, but I had to hang up my little green hat so that I could focus on those little men.My gut is that as I get older and wiser, my compensation ratio is not done changing. I continue to get clearer and clearer on what is most important to me in life and what my humans around me need from me.Well, I hope you found this helpful. These are just some thoughts from a guy making it up as he goes. And if you did find it helpful, please share it with someone. And whatever you do, take care out there.If you liked this, do me a favor and please hit like (algorithms after all) and forward it to at least one person who might like it too. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kellyvohs.substack.com

Yorkers and bouncers are the big talking poiints on this episode of Strike Rate. Jack and Dan do a deep dive into the data and analyse the use of yorkers, bouncers and other lengths in T20 cricket. They ask questions about their effectiveness, when it is best to use them, and when it is best to steer well clear! Find us on Twitter: Jack: @JackHope0 Dan: @SAAdvantage Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Listen in as we talk with Telarus Partner Thomas Hamilton of HamBTC about propane tanks, connected cows, air quality sensors, and more. Thomas talks about how he's shifted his focus to helping customers with their Mobility and IoT strategy. You'll hear about how he got his start door knocking in the Bronx to owning his own successful company brokering different technology solutions, and some things that he's learned along the way to polish his skills! Josh Lupresto (00:01): Welcome to the podcast that is designed to fuel your success in selling technology solutions. I'm your host, Josh Lupresto, SVP of Sales Engineering at Telarus. And this is Next Level BizTech. Josh Lupresto (00:15): Hey everybody, welcome back. Today we are wrapping up the topic, interesting topic titled, what Do Propane Tanks, cows and Air Quality Sensors Have in Common? I just wanted to make this title as crazy as I possibly could for people to go, what in the world is that? I have to watch it. And what we got on with us, we got on with us the wonderful Thomas Hamilton of HamBTC to help us wrap up this one. Thomas, thanks for coming on, man. Thomas Hamilton (00:41): I truly appreciate you inviting me on. It's, it's a honor and I feel like a blessing to be here. Josh Lupresto (00:46): Oh, dang. Oh, hi. Geez. I can't let you down at this point. . All right, man. Let's, let's jump in here. You know, before we get started, we just talk about HamBTC. Let's, let's kick back to your background. I, I love asking people this because some people come from totally polar different spaces. Some people have always been in tech. I just love hearing everybody's path. So tell us about, how did you get here? Thomas Hamilton (01:11): I got to technology sales. So about 17 years ago I was looking for a new path something similar to sales. And I, funny enough, I, I answered a Craigslist ad looking for door to sell door salespeople, and it turned out to be a company that was had partnered with Verizon for a feed on the street program, b2b doing pot, selling pots, fs, dsl, doing the winbacks, things of that nature. And that's where I got my start knocking doors in, in, in Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens in the Bronx going door to door. And, and I, that's always been where I've been accustomed. I'm, I'm a really good face-to-face person, so I, I just took off with it. And then somebody told me about the partner program, and when it was time, when it felt like it was time to jump ship, when it only took a summer to figure it was time to jump ship, I, I entered the partner program. I started interviewing some tsb and I found one that would worked for me. And I was with them for many years before I, I was again honored to find Talos. Josh Lupresto (02:21): Love it. All right. I want you to take me back fellow door to door, man. I, I, I feel like you learn if you do that one, you can do anything in life, but two, you learn so much. If you look back to knocking doors, right? Just out there in, in what's gotta be one of the toughest areas, what is the biggest thing, whether it be personal, professional, what did you learn, if you look back on that, that maybe you leveraged now or just kind of helped you along the way? Thomas Hamilton (02:50): I think, as you said, you know, door to door for a lot of people is very tough and very scary. Perseverance ingenuity figuring out where to be where to make your move. Knocking doors in Manhattan. , you gotta avoid security guards. You gotta know what door, what, what floors you can get to. If you got an appointment on the first floor, you make sure you get to the second floor. If you're on the 44th, make sure you do the 45th and the 43rd. Cuz you, now you got access. So all those type of things. And also being, you know, new Yorkers are notorious for being rude and, and not being friendly and talking. So you learn to, to charm the,

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Al, Kev, and Nama talk about using other cultures in video games Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:02:54: What Have We Been Up To 00:16:20: News 00:41:55: Cultures In Video Games 01:27:00: Outro Links Research Story Roadmap: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1629830/view/3656396815346372558 Sun Haven 1.0 Release Date: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1432860/view/3640634026218531323?l=english Terra Nil Release Date: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1593030/view/3637256326499263909 Tchia Release Date: https://twitter.com/awaceb/status/1628865612968501249 The Wandering Village 0.2.0: https://strayfawnstudio.com/community/index.php?/topic/14798-new-update-020/ Farming Simulator 23: https://www.farming-simulator.com/newsArticle.php?news_id=447 Dawngrove: https://store.steampowered.com/app/871410/Dawngrown/ Above Snakes Article: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1589120/view/3668778987544540058 Contact Al on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheScotBot Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript [00:30.000 –> 00:36.560] Hello farmers and welcome to another episode of the Harvest Season. My name is Al. [00:36.560 –> 00:41.360] My name is Kevin. Hello, my name is Nama. And we are here today to talk about [00:41.360 –> 00:43.720] cottagecore games. [00:43.720 –> 00:45.720] Wooooooh. [00:45.720 –> 00:49.080] Don’s saying so excited Kevin. [00:49.080 –> 00:53.160] I didn’t I didn’t match it. I did not match it this time. [00:53.160 –> 00:57.000] Kevin, you can you can do whatever you want. You normally do. [00:57.000 –> 01:03.640] Well, you’re right. You’re right about that. So welcome to first time guest Nama. [01:03.640 –> 01:12.120] Hello. Yeah, it’s me. People probably know who I am, but if not, I’m a I’m I’m Nama the [01:12.120 –> 01:15.000] nerd from small-time bazurri. [01:15.000 –> 01:21.400] Yeah, cool. So we’re going to I didn’t really rehearse in my head what I was going to see here, [01:21.400 –> 01:26.200] but we’re basically we’re going to talk about in this episode we’re going to talk about [01:26.200 –> 01:33.720] the use of cultures, specifically different cultures from the one that you know developers are [01:33.720 –> 01:38.600] in their video games when it’s appropriate, etc, etc. There’s a lot to talk about there, [01:38.600 –> 01:43.240] but that’s what we’re going to talk about. And I thought that Nama would be a good [01:43.240 –> 01:49.640] person to get on to chat about this because Nama you are what is the correct terminology [01:49.640 –> 01:50.920] that you would use. [01:50.920 –> 01:57.320] Well, I think the term that people use on the internet right now is Native American. I’ve [01:57.320 –> 02:04.680] grown up in a family of Native Americans that call ourselves Indians, but I am a member of the [02:04.680 –> 02:07.480] Comanche tribe if you want to get in particular. [02:07.480 –> 02:11.080] Well, I didn’t know that. Okay. So that’s the tribe. Cool. I do know the Comanche. It’s the [02:11.080 –> 02:15.080] knowing that was your tribe. Very cool. Sure. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn’t say that was getting [02:15.080 –> 02:22.040] particular. I would say that would be like actually saying what you are, right? Like, I’ve [02:22.040 –> 02:27.240] got my ID card in my wallet. We have our own, you know, thing of a mob. So I’m sure we’ll get [02:27.240 –> 02:32.040] into this discussion. But like, yeah, because because quite often we can we can talk about [02:32.040 –> 02:38.600] Native American like it is one, you know, homogenous group. Yeah, one nebulous thing there, [02:38.600 –> 02:44.040] which it has never been. But anyway, I’m sure we’ll get into that discussion later on. [02:44.040 –> 02:48.680] Okay. Okay. Okay. We’ll save it for them. We’ve got plenty to talk about before then. [02:48.680 –> 02:53.960] Before that, we have a bunch of news. Apparently everybody was really was announcing release dates [02:53.960 –> 03:02.120] this week. But before that, now me, what have you been up to? Well, that is, you know, a big question. [03:02.680 –> 03:11.800] I have, I’m a kids librarian. And so I do all kinds of programs and stuff. I read to the [03:11.800 –> 03:17.400] little five year olds, but I also do video game programs with, do with key majors. So right now [03:17.400 –> 03:23.320] at work, all of, it’s all been about getting summer reading programs, ready to go. Some people are like, [03:23.320 –> 03:30.280] what summer? It’s February. But they, they are doing the middle of March. We got a book that [03:30.280 –> 03:35.800] performers. We got to decide what we’re doing. So that has been occupying a lot of my brain space. [03:35.800 –> 03:42.200] But in terms of like my gaming to do this every day around Pokemon day, which is very close at [03:42.200 –> 03:49.240] the time of recording, I, like, since the 25th anniversary, I’ve been going back to an old game [03:49.240 –> 03:55.960] and doing like kind of the post game content that I never was able to do. So for the 25th anniversary, [03:55.960 –> 04:03.480] I got to credits in stadium one. And then last year, I got to credits in stadium two. And so this [04:03.480 –> 04:10.360] year, I’m preparing to do the battle frontier in Emerald, which I’ve never done before. So that means [04:10.360 –> 04:16.440] like breeding a team and EV training and all in generation three of Pokemon. And it is, uh, [04:16.440 –> 04:23.160] I’m not looking forward to it necessarily. But I’m very excited to do it. But it’s like, [04:23.160 –> 04:27.960] it’s like bucket list for me. So I’m not going to judge you is all I’m going to say. [04:27.960 –> 04:35.640] I don’t know. I’m not judging you, but for that, that hurts just to hear good luck. [04:36.280 –> 04:38.200] We’ll see where I am six months for now. [04:38.920 –> 04:44.280] Yeah. Cool Kevin. What have you been up to? I have been up to all the same. My life is just [04:44.280 –> 04:54.840] dominated by battle passes and so on. I play unite. I play snap. I play snap, which has hurt me [04:54.840 –> 05:01.240] by the way, they’ve got a lot of good variants and dropped a little money. Um, I, uh, that said, [05:01.240 –> 05:07.080] though, this week, my brother Calvin introduced me to a new mobile game. I’ve become more and more [05:07.080 –> 05:14.520] of a mobile gamer to much to my own dismay. Um, it is called the battle cats. Um, have either of [05:14.520 –> 05:20.840] you heard of this. I have never never heard of this battle cats are the battle cats with an S [05:20.840 –> 05:28.280] plural. Oh, my word. This looks so cute. You’re looking enough. Right. Okay. So it is called, [05:28.280 –> 05:33.000] it is made by a company called Pono’s, which I’m not, I’ve not been familiar with, but apparently [05:33.000 –> 05:40.280] they have a wide assortment of titles using these cats. There’s like the burglar cats, I think, [05:40.280 –> 05:44.760] they even had one for the 3DS, like a match three puzzle game using these cats. They have a [05:44.760 –> 05:50.360] handful of games. So, um, they’re pretty prolific and harder than, but anyways, so the battle cats [05:50.360 –> 05:56.040] is a, essentially tower defense, but like you’re trying to take down their tower, they’re trying [05:56.040 –> 06:01.800] to take down yours. It’s just 2D left, right, whatever. Um, you’re just generating units. Um, [06:01.800 –> 06:07.160] I just don’t matter, right or whatever. Um, and I love tower defense games. So like natural [06:07.160 –> 06:15.240] as inclined, but the real seller is, as you said, Al, the art style, which is, uh, my card to, I don’t [06:15.240 –> 06:19.880] mean, if you guys have played under, or anyone’s familiar with Undertale, as a character called [06:19.880 –> 06:25.000] the annoying dog, and it looks a lot like that. Um, so it’s just like black and white cats, and [06:25.640 –> 06:34.200] the cats are very cartoony and goofy. You have UFO cats, dragon cats, gross cats, which has just like [06:34.200 –> 06:41.160] giant, enormously long legs. You have Thor cat. Um, and it’s a gotcha game. So you pull for cats, [06:41.160 –> 06:47.400] and then they become your units for your team and your little missions. It’s fun. It’s a [06:47.400 –> 06:53.560] detective. It has an energy system. So it actually manages to keep my addiction in check, but um, [06:54.280 –> 06:59.160] but yeah, it’s, it’s really fun. Um, and I, especially to notice because they had a cross [06:59.160 –> 07:06.600] over street fighter actually, um, what? Yeah, not only do they have cats model after some of the [07:06.600 –> 07:12.440] villains. Um, if people know what em bison looks like, he has like a cape and an evil dictator hat. [07:12.440 –> 07:18.920] So they gave, uh, a cat, an, an em bison outfit. Um, but you could also just get the characters [07:18.920 –> 07:24.760] themselves. My brother pulled like Ryu and em bison. So as these goofy cartoony cats, and then [07:24.760 –> 07:30.920] he’ll summon like Ryu was doing the dokens. Um, the game is chaotic and goofy and hilarious and [07:30.920 –> 07:36.120] a lot of fun. Um, so it is taken over my week largely. It’s actually cut into my snap time, [07:36.120 –> 07:43.560] which is crazy. Um, but yeah, aside from that, uh, just the usual, um, what about you out? What [07:43.560 –> 07:49.720] have you been up to? Well, I have finished my Pokemon Scarlet Professor Oak Challenge. [07:51.560 –> 08:00.360] I’m done for you. Um, congratulations. It was kind of ridiculous. So it took me, so my final, [08:00.360 –> 08:08.280] so I got 60 hours to get to the first gym. So I was catching 355, 1, 60 hours. And I think, [08:08.280 –> 08:12.760] let me just double check. I think it was like 72 or something to the rest for the rest of the game. [08:12.760 –> 08:19.240] So like another 12 hours. Um, that’s pretty good. Yeah. It’s quite insane. Realistically, [08:19.240 –> 08:22.840] the only thing that actually took me a time while the two things that took the, [08:22.840 –> 08:32.360] took most of that time up was, uh, the cutscenes. So so many cutscenes in the gyms, um, like that, [08:32.360 –> 08:38.120] just that took about half of the total time, I think life was just the, the talking, [08:38.120 –> 08:43.880] which I have, uh, what’s it called? Um, the split pad. So I just stuck on the turbo button for that, [08:43.880 –> 08:49.400] get through all that nonsense. Um, and the other thing that took a surprising amount of time was [08:49.400 –> 08:57.240] there, after you, after you finish, after you hit his credits, you can unlock the five star [08:57.240 –> 09:02.040] raids. And when you’ve got the five star raids on locks, there are three Pokemon that you can [09:02.040 –> 09:10.840] only get at that point. And that’s Caesar, Finneon, not a Finneon, uh, what’s it called? Finneon, [09:10.840 –> 09:16.840] Finnezin, no, the other one, Palafin. Yeah, Finnezin, you can get for Palafin. Um, and [09:16.840 –> 09:24.440] smoking. And that took me a surprising amount. I took me a bit three days to get those three [09:24.440 –> 09:29.320] Pokemon in raids, because obviously you’re having to go around all of your raids and check if they’re [09:29.320 –> 09:34.520] there, then you actually have to defeat the raid and blah blah blah. So like that took a lot of [09:34.520 –> 09:39.240] time, but I was like, I could just skip this bit, but then like, I’ve not actually fully completed [09:39.240 –> 09:45.640] it. So I may as well just like do this last bit. Oh, that was quite a lot of work. And then I went [09:45.640 –> 09:51.000] back to Violet and called the exclusives and sent them over and have their shiny charm. So I’m [09:51.000 –> 09:58.040] done with that. And wow. So I’m now going to put myself down to significant less significantly [09:58.040 –> 10:03.640] less. I’m in a time playing in that game. Maybe one day a week, get a shiny or, or, uh, um, [10:03.640 –> 10:09.080] a raid event, if there’s a raid event on that week. You say that, but Pokemon day is Monday [10:09.080 –> 10:15.160] and then you’ll be right back in. I mean, I thought I don’t think even the most optimistic [10:15.160 –> 10:21.080] person assumes that the DLC will be an announced and released on month. I mean, like that would be [10:21.080 –> 10:25.800] quite, it doesn’t have to be the DLC could be just something else small up that you know, [10:25.800 –> 10:29.080] it’s not going to, whatever it is, it’s not going to be more than a couple hours work, right? [10:31.480 –> 10:36.680] So there’s that. And then I picked up Mario Rabbid’s spark of hope. So that’s the second one. [10:37.240 –> 10:40.840] And I was like, let’s get this game done. Um, because I played a wee bit of a [10:40.840 –> 10:45.400] lot when it came out. And then I got distracted by a bunch of other things because I think it came [10:45.400 –> 10:52.440] out a few weeks before Pokemon did. And, um, this game really frustrates me because the battles [10:52.440 –> 10:56.040] are so much fun. And I think the battles in this game are better than the previous one. [10:56.600 –> 11:01.240] I wasn’t hugely excited about the lack of the grid system in this one, but I think it actually [11:01.240 –> 11:05.480] works really well. I think it’s a really fun. It gives you more different possibilities, [11:05.480 –> 11:13.800] more ways to do things, which is good fun. But then they padded out the game with all this ridiculous [11:13.800 –> 11:21.640] like exploration nonsense between the battles that just is not fun. There’s like random pointless [11:21.640 –> 11:26.840] puzzles that you have to like figure out where you’re going to get. It’s like the first game, [11:26.840 –> 11:32.760] I found that a bit annoying, but it was mostly just like one of these maps that like the 2D [11:32.760 –> 11:37.640] Mario games have, like world or whatever, where you would just like kind of walk along the map. [11:37.640 –> 11:41.160] And it was like, this is kind of pointless, but whatever. It’s nice and quick. You’re just basically [11:41.160 –> 11:45.240] walking through catching some coins and then going to the next battle. But this one, this [11:45.240 –> 11:50.200] full on like exploration things and you have to go through these caves and figure out how to get [11:50.200 –> 11:53.160] out of the cave and you have to figure out how to get to the top of a lighthouse and you have to, [11:53.160 –> 12:00.280] and it’s just that I do not care. I didn’t buy this game to be a platformer or an exploration. [12:00.280 –> 12:03.880] This is not what I’m looking for in this game and everything that does outside of the battles [12:03.880 –> 12:10.680] is not fun. It’s badly done and therefore I have stopped. I’m not finishing that game [12:10.680 –> 12:16.600] because I’m not enjoying myself outside of the battles. It’s so weird because the first game was so [12:16.600 –> 12:21.800] well done. Like, yeah. I’m surprised they bungled them up like that. I haven’t heard much or played [12:22.600 –> 12:27.400] that. I think it might depend on who you are and maybe some people enjoy that. I don’t know. [12:27.400 –> 12:31.560] There must be a reason that they’ve added so much more between the battles. But like, [12:31.560 –> 12:35.160] personally, I would, I would have preferred if they take in the first one, put on the battle [12:35.160 –> 12:39.240] system for the second one and then removed all those bit between the battles. It’s just give me a [12:39.240 –> 12:44.760] list. Just let me play the battles. I don’t, no, I’m not buying this game to explore. I’m playing it [12:44.760 –> 12:51.160] to play these battles. That is not just you. That is like the game. That’s what they’re selling you. [12:51.160 –> 12:56.120] And yeah, it’s weird that they fill it up with so much more. Absolutely bizarre. [12:56.120 –> 13:02.120] Yeah. So I played for another maybe like three hours or something. So I’ve put in almost 10 hours [13:02.120 –> 13:07.720] in that game. And I think that’s enough to say that I do not. The battles are good, but they’re not [13:07.720 –> 13:13.480] good enough to make me want to power through the absolute dreadfulness that is everything else. [13:14.440 –> 13:19.720] So I’ll put that back down again and I’m selling the game. The other thing, the other thing that [13:19.720 –> 13:24.360] I’ve been then picked up, I only picked that up today. So I’ve not done a huge amount of it. But [13:24.360 –> 13:29.480] I’m enjoying it so far is Hyrule Warriors or what’s this one called? The Calamity. [13:31.000 –> 13:37.400] Go back to the wild one. Oh, it’s an original one. No, no, no, no, no, no, I like to play the [13:37.400 –> 13:41.480] newest game of something. And then it means that I never enjoy playing the older ones because they’re [13:41.480 –> 13:48.840] not as good. Oh, that might not be the case here. We’ll see. We’ll see. I’m enjoying it. Obviously, [13:48.840 –> 13:56.840] the battle system is not the same as in Breath of the Wild. But it almost feels like they’re trying [13:56.840 –> 14:06.120] to make it very similar. So like you have all of the extra abilities, like your magnesiums and your [14:06.120 –> 14:11.160] ice thing or whatever they’re called, but they work differently. And obviously you’re doing it in [14:11.160 –> 14:18.280] like high-paced combat rather than using it to solve puzzles. And so it’s fun, but it’s also a little [14:18.280 –> 14:22.280] bit weird. And I think it might confuse me going into Tears of the Kingdom because it just, [14:22.680 –> 14:29.160] it’s, it’s that weird kind of combination of kind of similar, but also kind of different in that way. [14:29.160 –> 14:37.880] It looks, it looks so much like Breath of the Wilds down to the, down to the menu UI and the sound [14:37.880 –> 14:44.360] effects and the music. They did a great job making it seem like a seamless step into this game from [14:44.360 –> 14:49.480] Breath of the Wild. So yeah, I hope that you don’t go if you’re weird blash with Tears of the [14:49.480 –> 14:54.840] Kingdom because, yeah, I mean, perhaps to them for it. Yeah, I don’t think so. I think I’ll go into [14:54.840 –> 14:58.840] Tears of the Kingdom and be like, no, this is, this is the combat I prefer because I do, [14:59.560 –> 15:05.960] I’m not enjoying it as much as I enjoy Breath of the Wild. Partly because I think this game [15:07.000 –> 15:10.040] wants to just throw you into battles and it does that straight away. It’s like, hey, [15:10.040 –> 15:15.560] he has a battle goal and I like that, but then it also then puts in some of the exploration side [15:15.560 –> 15:20.760] of things that Breath of the Wild had, but not fully featured obviously. It’s like not an open world [15:20.760 –> 15:26.680] game like that. So it just kind of feels like those are kind of tacked on, but unlike Mario [15:26.680 –> 15:32.520] and Rabbid Spark of Hope, those are really short, right? So you’re like, oh, you need to get to this next [15:32.520 –> 15:38.600] bit. Okay, run to it. That’s fine. But as soon as you finished all of the battles within that chapter, [15:38.600 –> 15:42.360] you then back to a menu and you can select the next chapter and you’re immediately there. [15:43.720 –> 15:48.600] That’s the bit that Mario Rabbids didn’t do, which you should have done, minimize the [15:48.600 –> 15:55.160] extra bits between what we’re actually there for, right? So yeah, I’m enjoying that so far. [15:55.160 –> 15:59.640] Good. I like the person who is better. I’ve nearly finished the first chapter. It’s a real [15:59.640 –> 16:05.160] loop. So yeah, well, we’ll see. I mean, yeah, the age of climate is fine, but just the original [16:05.160 –> 16:10.600] high rewards. There’s a real love letter to the Zelda series, which is really fun. Interesting. [16:10.600 –> 16:15.880] But I’m glad you’re enjoying it. So yeah, I think that’s me. Not played any snap, played a little [16:15.880 –> 16:21.080] bit ago. That’s about it. That’s about it. I mentioned three big games there. Shall we talk about [16:21.080 –> 16:30.120] some news? Should we? Let’s do it. So research story is now out in early access. That’s not news. [16:30.120 –> 16:35.720] We already knew that was coming, but they have also released their early access roadmap. So they’ve [16:35.720 –> 16:42.840] listed one, two, three, four, five big updates coming over the time. It’s obviously a roadmap [16:43.800 –> 16:51.720] without any dates because of course that’s a sensible thing to do. Yeah. I like at least an estimate [16:51.720 –> 16:58.600] on my roadmap, personally. Like, I mean, I’m not like trying to hold them to anything or be [16:58.600 –> 17:04.040] disappointed. I’m saying this just in general, not specifically about this game, but yeah, I don’t know. [17:04.040 –> 17:09.080] I just like to have some ballpark of idea of what they estimate because just the list of things [17:09.080 –> 17:14.760] they want to do. Yeah, I don’t know. That could take a while. I mean, I will say that they have said [17:14.760 –> 17:21.880] that they expect their early access to take about six months to a year. So presumably at this point [17:21.880 –> 17:26.040] in time, they’re expecting all of those five updates to be finished within a year’s time. [17:26.040 –> 17:30.840] It’s not going to happen, but that’s what they’re expecting at this point. It feels like [17:31.640 –> 17:37.800] in our little corner of the video games world in the cottage court, it feels like this happens a lot. [17:38.520 –> 17:43.320] It does. And I think I think that everyone just tries to add too much into their games. [17:44.360 –> 17:49.880] Like, I mean, just looking at again, I haven’t touched research story or don’t have anything [17:49.880 –> 17:56.360] against them, but they have the romance stuff. Is that, oh, do we always need the romance? I don’t know. [17:56.360 –> 18:02.200] But anyway, so that’s that’s just me. Research story specifically as a game does feel like it [18:02.200 –> 18:06.760] doesn’t need romance, right? Like it’s a game where you’re the researcher and the focus is on [18:06.760 –> 18:10.920] the researching things. Not to say the researchers can’t have relationships. I’m not saying you [18:10.920 –> 18:18.120] can’t have a relationship, Cody. Like it does feel like the focus is on like when you’re doing [18:18.120 –> 18:22.920] something like Stardew or Harvest Moon or a story of seasons, like the focus is on this, [18:22.920 –> 18:27.240] you’re just, you’re just living a life, right? There’s no like specific thing. And then other [18:27.240 –> 18:31.880] ones are like, we’re focusing on like, if you imagine if like farming simulator that actually had [18:31.880 –> 18:36.680] romance in it, that would be weird because the focus was on running a big commercial farm. [18:36.680 –> 18:39.720] So yeah, I agree with you. This feels a bit weird to have that. [18:39.720 –> 18:46.440] Yeah. Um, but I mean, yeah, but I mean, good luck to research story regardless. [18:46.440 –> 18:51.800] Yeah, but discord can join it if you want to help with their growth and whatnot. It is nice [18:51.800 –> 18:56.680] to see them interacting with the community like that. Yeah, that’s nice. Yeah. Yeah. I will say [18:56.680 –> 19:00.520] just because we were talking about like dates and stuff like that, just to give you an idea, [19:00.520 –> 19:05.880] Sunhaven, which we were about to talk about, they came into early access in June 2021, [19:05.880 –> 19:12.360] and they said that their early access would be six months long. So, um, um, uh, [19:12.360 –> 19:18.600] look, six months, two years, close enough. We sometimes you just got to put asterisks over your [19:18.600 –> 19:23.160] dates. That’s where you don’t give a date. This is my opinion. Like, having one states, I say, [19:23.160 –> 19:29.400] don’t give a date. Just do what you do. Give a, give a date and hold your, not again, not a specific [19:29.400 –> 19:34.280] date, but like, if you realize it’s getting too big, then cut down. That’s, that’s my opinion. [19:34.280 –> 19:38.040] Look, we live. This is the genre with religion, didn’t it? Okay. Like, [19:38.040 –> 19:46.200] uh, I live released now, right? They’re no, they’re no, um, have you played it yourself? Is it true? [19:46.200 –> 19:52.200] Is it true? Is it true that it’s out? Yes. Is it not all just, it’s true that you can download [19:52.200 –> 19:59.160] to the game. I haven’t actually tried to play it for all. We know it’s no Moneko. Moneko has been longer. [19:59.160 –> 20:05.160] Has Moneko been longer? Oh, yeah. They were only two, they were only when we on the first episode, [20:05.160 –> 20:09.080] they were only two games that we announced that hadn’t been released last year. One of them [20:09.800 –> 20:13.560] was re-legined and one of them is Moneko. Moneko hasn’t come out yet. [20:13.560 –> 20:18.360] When was Moneko’s first announcement? 2018. Okay. Never mind taking hold of Moneko, [20:18.360 –> 20:22.600] but Moneko will be worth it though. Oh, sure. Oh, absolutely. Moneko’s going to be a [20:22.600 –> 20:27.640] graduate game in the re-legend. I don’t think anybody would be arguing about it. Yeah. Okay. [20:27.640 –> 20:32.840] Anyways, all right. Let’s talk about the other game with. Yeah. So some hate in questionable [20:32.840 –> 20:40.840] date. So they have announced their 1.0 release date. So there’s 0.8 update. I don’t know why [20:40.840 –> 20:48.520] they’re doing weather. Right. Their next free 1.0 release is out and that adds, oh, look, it adds [20:48.520 –> 20:59.400] romance. And the, so that’s out now. And the 1.0 release date is currently scheduled to release [20:59.400 –> 21:06.200] on the 10th of March, which is only like two weeks away. That’s that bet. No. I see this [21:06.200 –> 21:11.320] bad deal. Between the two really. Yeah. I will say, looking at this art style for this game, [21:11.320 –> 21:16.760] how could it not have a romance? Similarly. This seems like it’s designed for it. [21:16.760 –> 21:22.200] Yeah. I mean, it’s knocking off Stardew. Yeah. It’s, it’s Stardew, but with magic, right? That’s [21:22.200 –> 21:28.920] what it’s like. Yeah. It’s like a higher fantasy. Yeah. I would say, I think this has better [21:28.920 –> 21:36.040] pixel art quality than Stardew. It’s quite nice. But oh, for sure. So I would say, it depends [21:36.040 –> 21:42.760] what you mean. It has higher resolution on everything, right? Like it’s less pixel. I would say [21:42.760 –> 21:51.800] it’s more complex. Yeah. I mean, like, like I recognize like every day, every, I judge pixel art by [21:52.520 –> 21:57.800] what they do in their limitations, right? Because there’s like, you look back at older, [21:57.800 –> 22:01.800] NES games or whatever. They have fantastic pixel or like some of those final fantasy games or whatever. [22:01.800 –> 22:07.480] Anyways, I just look at like the octopus that you see on the same page. I have like this giant [22:07.480 –> 22:11.560] octopus or like stuff inside it. That is great design right there. I don’t think Stardew has [22:11.560 –> 22:16.680] anything as nicely designed as that. Interesting. But regardless, that is, that’s just a completely [22:16.680 –> 22:21.720] subjective opinion here. I certainly don’t. I certainly, I certainly look at this game and think [22:21.720 –> 22:26.680] it looks nice, right? It’s not like one of these art styles where you’re like, oh, they just, [22:26.680 –> 22:30.200] they just wanted, they wanted to make a game and they didn’t really know how to make it look good. [22:30.200 –> 22:38.280] Like it does look good. Absolutely. But I just, I think that I, it is obviously higher resolution [22:38.280 –> 22:42.280] and in some, you could definitely argue it looks better than Stardew. But I still think [22:42.280 –> 22:48.280] the Stardew looks really nice. It’s just, no, yeah, it’s, it’s not bad. I mean, clearly, yeah, [22:48.280 –> 22:54.840] okay. I mean, yeah, you can write a line in this one, right? Oh, well, there you go. [22:54.840 –> 22:59.480] There’s a crab house. The house with a big grab on it started doesn’t have one of those. [22:59.480 –> 23:05.640] That’s very true. But you can, you can, you turn your kids into delves in this game. [23:05.640 –> 23:15.640] Oh, ouch. Oh, see, you know what? I’d rather games copy that than the romance. [23:17.720 –> 23:21.960] But I guess you need the romance have kids first. Well, no, yeah, just do it to random [23:21.960 –> 23:28.280] people. I don’t like you in the game. I’m going to turn you into delves. The other thing is, [23:28.280 –> 23:34.360] obviously, they’ve still got their Nintendo Switch release to come. Um, that is coming soon. [23:34.360 –> 23:38.120] They haven’t really, it’s a bit cryptic what they’ve said. They’re, they’re like, [23:38.120 –> 23:42.120] we’re waiting on Nintendo. But my question with that is like, are you waiting on Nintendo [23:42.120 –> 23:47.480] because you’ve, you’re applied for it to go in? And therefore, it’s already, and you just [23:47.480 –> 23:52.600] need Nintendo to approve it, or are they waiting on something else from Nintendo? Like, they [23:52.600 –> 23:59.880] don’t actively say we have, we have put in approval for this to go in the store, right? So I’m [23:59.880 –> 24:06.920] a bit more exactly other saying here. I’m not sure. I mean, yeah, but again, another cornerstone [24:06.920 –> 24:14.280] of our genre, uh, the Switch tax always longer releases, the laid releases on that. Um, yeah. [24:14.280 –> 24:18.680] Well, at least now, I have a steam deck so I can stop waiting for the Switch release. [24:21.160 –> 24:26.840] You’re not wrong. Next, we have another release date, because as I said, this is the release [24:26.840 –> 24:32.760] date episode. The next one is we have a release date for Terra Nil. So this is the game where [24:32.760 –> 24:40.520] you’re turning wasteland into a luscious, uh, Greenland, and then leaving it untouched by humans. [24:40.520 –> 24:49.000] Um, this one is releasing on the 28th of March busy month. This game, I, you know, I believe it was [24:49.000 –> 24:54.360] Cody was on the first time. This was discussion. She’s so hyped about it. Um, I don’t know. Her excitement [24:54.360 –> 25:03.080] has made me more excited about this game. Um, it’s, I saw it. Terraforming is a cool concept. Um, [25:03.080 –> 25:10.040] um, and just looking at that turning, uh, empty plot of dirt into a vibrant forest or [25:10.920 –> 25:15.480] ocean river from whatever. That’s pretty cool. Um, I’ll be excited. I will probably give [25:15.480 –> 25:23.160] in this to world. I mean, to PC and Netflix. So there’s the interesting thing. I don’t think we had [25:23.160 –> 25:28.520] any idea that it was coming to presumably mobile devices. If they don’t actually give the details, [25:28.520 –> 25:32.600] but as far as I know Netflix are only doing games on mobile devices, I don’t think we had [25:32.600 –> 25:37.560] any indication that this was coming to mobile. And yeah, I suddenly like, oh, hey, we’re coming [25:37.560 –> 25:45.960] out on the 28th. Also on Netflix. I mean, like, oh, okay. Thank you for that. Right. Fine. I guess [25:45.960 –> 25:52.920] that’s a thing. Um, yeah. I mean, Netflix are doing well with choosing games for their service. I think [25:52.920 –> 25:57.480] I guess I don’t have Netflix at all. I don’t know. [25:57.480 –> 26:05.720] Oh, yeah. So I know that they, they have had, um, some good ones. Uh, they had, I believe, [26:05.720 –> 26:13.480] spirit fader. Um, all that is a good one. Good for them. So well, it was also fair in this. [26:13.480 –> 26:21.080] Yeah. Oh, they had, um, the Ninja Turtles game. Yep. That’s like, oh, wow. Okay. Now that somebody [26:21.080 –> 26:25.800] there knows what they’re doing. Um, they do. They really do. There was something else as well that [26:25.800 –> 26:32.120] was like, uh, like a traditional game that people really liked and I can’t remember what it was. [26:32.920 –> 26:37.080] Oh, wow. They have a lot of games. I’m just looking into the into the breach. That’s the [26:37.080 –> 26:43.080] other one. It’s like, yeah, into the breach. That was, that’s a dope game. Um, obviously they have [26:43.080 –> 26:48.600] some that are based on, um, stranger things, stranger things, which apparently the stranger [26:48.600 –> 26:53.160] things game is very good. Oh, um, they’ve got an exploding kit. They got exploding kittens on it. [26:53.160 –> 26:59.160] Oh, there you go. But I’m, I’m just, it’s quite a lot of games. Quite a lot of games. [26:59.160 –> 27:03.320] Some of them look like the fake mobile have games that you see. They do something in their [27:03.320 –> 27:07.880] religious games. Maybe it’s just something about the icon square. I think they launched it with [27:07.880 –> 27:12.760] all those games, all those really like, oh, we have like 20 games and you’re like, yeah, they’re [27:12.760 –> 27:19.160] all terrible. And then they finally got some money to actually buy some good games. [27:19.160 –> 27:26.040] Oh, a spearfarer that icon makes me so happy. Still just being happy. Now may have you played [27:26.040 –> 27:33.400] Spinnerfader yet. Um, I gotta be honest. No. Nope. Thank you for coming on the podcast. [27:33.400 –> 27:39.560] Yeah. See you around because the pleasure having you. So I am curious, like this, uh, [27:39.560 –> 27:45.160] the Netflix games are those like, do you download them? Yeah. So they are, they’re just, [27:45.160 –> 27:48.360] they’re just standard mobile games. But you have, when you download the game, you then have to [27:48.360 –> 27:54.120] log into Netflix to prove you have a subscription. Okay. But yeah, it just is like a standard game [27:54.120 –> 27:59.160] that you download is not cloud gaming or anything like that. That’s, that’s an, it’s a neat idea. [27:59.160 –> 28:05.000] Um, but anyways, uh, one, one thing I do want to say more about Tarnell, um, they’re donating [28:05.000 –> 28:10.520] a portion of their profits from steam, not, not for expanding to the endangered wildlife trust. [28:10.520 –> 28:14.440] So good for them putting their money where their mouth is very, very cool. Yeah. [28:14.440 –> 28:18.440] Neat. I suspect the Netflix money helped with that, right? Cause they need a problem with [28:18.440 –> 28:24.520] money. You can pay. Yeah. Yeah. I probably, so thank you Netflix, I guess. [28:25.880 –> 28:32.440] In a weird way. But yeah, so that’s good. And we got our Spinnerfader reference in for the slack. [28:32.440 –> 28:40.040] They love when there you go. Uh, next we have, I really hope I can remember how to say, I think [28:40.040 –> 28:45.240] it’s Chia. That’s what I’d assume. That’s what I would guess. Um, this is the game that’s based [28:45.240 –> 28:50.920] in New Caledonia. Uh, we have a release date for this game as well. This is coming out on the 21st [28:50.920 –> 28:57.720] of March. I should have done these in, in data audition nine. Oh, wow. Um, this is releasing on [28:57.720 –> 29:04.680] Epic games and on PlayStation, both PS4 and PS5 and it’s going to be included in the PlayStation [29:04.680 –> 29:08.760] Plus extra. So if you subscribe to PlayStation Plus extra, you get the game for free. [29:08.760 –> 29:16.520] So, um, first of all, for people who might not be aware of New Caledonia is a real place. Um, [29:16.520 –> 29:22.360] still don’t know that was a real place. Uh, just to be sure, I don’t know, like it’s at least [29:22.360 –> 29:26.520] you in the US, New Caledonia is in a place you here, come too often, come up too often. [29:26.520 –> 29:31.160] Um, well, sure. Sure. It’s not like something that comes up in everyday conversation. Yeah. [29:32.120 –> 29:35.960] But it’s like when I, when I, when I first saw this game and it’s always based on New Caledonia, [29:35.960 –> 29:41.720] oh, you look awesome. I had to look it out. I saw it and it said, that sounds like a country [29:41.720 –> 29:48.280] and they looked it up and it’s like, oh, yeah, that is a country. Um, I didn’t know. Okay. Um, so [29:49.320 –> 29:56.440] I’m looking at this trailer. I don’t know if any of this is gameplay. Um, so I don’t like that. [29:58.360 –> 30:04.760] Yes, but again, if it’s a, you know, pre rendered cutscene type footage, yeah, would look good. [30:04.760 –> 30:11.080] And so yeah, that’s, that’s why I’m bringing it out because that’s always a big, big asterisk for any [30:11.080 –> 30:16.440] trailer in my opinion. Listen, Bailey. Um, I like to see actual gameplay. I don’t know if we’re [30:16.440 –> 30:22.680] actually seeing any here. Um, but the concept is cool. They are really going for, you know, uh, [30:22.680 –> 30:28.200] well, hey, culture, right? Where it’s specific culture out there. Um, we’ve got non white folks [30:28.200 –> 30:33.080] as the lead and most of the Kevin, Kevin, yes, he Kevin, this is in my list. He’s in my list [30:33.080 –> 30:38.120] for discussion in the meantime. Yeah. Okay. Okay. You know what I’m just saying. Okay. Um, [30:38.840 –> 30:42.440] on. Okay. But anyways, I don’t even know what the game’s supposed to be playing like to be on. [30:42.440 –> 30:47.320] It is. Yeah. I think it’s an, it’s more of a kind of like exploration game, but you’re not. There’s [30:47.320 –> 30:53.480] no like combat or anything. You’re, um, I guess it kind of is more actually that did you ever play [30:54.200 –> 31:00.280] what’s it called? Oh, my word. Why am I so bad with names? Sometimes the Alba, Alba, I keep getting [31:00.280 –> 31:05.080] that one messed up because there’s a Scott’s word, which is spelled the same as the Spanish name, [31:05.080 –> 31:10.680] but it said differently, right? Alba, the wildlife. Oh, no, I didn’t. Yeah, that’s probably a good [31:10.680 –> 31:16.920] comparison. But without the, like, obviously you’re not taking pictures. You are instead going [31:16.920 –> 31:21.960] around. And I think the idea is that you’re meant to be hearing for animals. Uh, okay. There’s, [31:21.960 –> 31:26.760] so looking at the YouTube trailer, there’s a blurb here face off against your foes and opening [31:26.760 –> 31:32.360] counters where your creativity is the key of victory, transform into any of the over 30 animals or [31:32.360 –> 31:37.640] hundreds of objects at your disposal, uh, uncover your secrets and make new friends as your jam on [31:37.640 –> 31:43.960] your fully playable ukulele in this tropical adventure. That sounds cool. I don’t see that in this trailer [31:43.960 –> 31:50.200] area. At least in terms of the gameplay, like I see where they’re hinting at animals and transforming, [31:50.200 –> 31:55.240] but I don’t know how that’s utilizing the game, but uh, yeah, I think it’s, I think it’s meant to be [31:55.240 –> 32:00.200] like a puzzle thing. So you might need to, to use certain animals to get certain places and stuff like [32:00.200 –> 32:06.760] that. It says foes. It says foes. That’s, that’s, it does interesting. Yeah. I don’t know. Maybe [32:06.760 –> 32:12.840] there is combat then that I didn’t realize. March. I see the ukulele in the very last shot of this [32:12.840 –> 32:18.040] trailer. The ukulele is prom. Yeah. There is a rhythm game, I believe with that. I mean, [32:18.040 –> 32:26.680] regardless, we’re going to find out soon because, uh, that’s just a few. Yes. Man, March 21st, [32:26.680 –> 32:34.600] 2023. Very cool. Epic game store PS4 and PS5. Um, and yeah, this, this game will 100% come up [32:34.600 –> 32:41.960] in our main conversation about culture and video games. And it’s perfect timing. Yeah. Okay. [32:41.960 –> 32:48.360] But, uh, next we have, uh, technically a release date, but a release date for an update. [32:49.000 –> 32:55.400] That’s awesome. Uh, uh, the wondering village. This is where you’re, you have a farming, it’s [32:55.400 –> 33:01.160] basically a farming life sim, but you’re on the back of a big creature. So they have added, [33:01.160 –> 33:07.640] this update is adding gamepad support and therefore steam deck compatibility and a bunch of other [33:07.640 –> 33:11.160] stuff that I’m not really going to talk about because that’s all I really care about. Steam [33:11.160 –> 33:17.400] is going to be over here. Yeah, that’s the big one, right? Yeah. Yeah. This is my first time [33:17.400 –> 33:23.480] looking at the game and it looks very impressive. Like, I really like this shot of the, of the, [33:23.480 –> 33:29.080] the, the big creature walking through. And as I understand it, that’s not like to the typical game [33:29.080 –> 33:36.200] play, but I still like looking at it. Yeah, it’s a cool. I haven’t heard or played anything of this [33:36.200 –> 33:43.080] game. I’m just wondering like, does the creature inter like, does that affect your village? [33:43.080 –> 33:49.000] I believe it does affect things. Yeah. So I believe that your creature can get into battles [33:49.000 –> 33:53.640] with other creatures, for example. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. That does sound familiar. It’s a very [33:53.640 –> 34:01.160] cool concept. Um, it’s interesting because like the art of the world, like the bigger world where [34:01.160 –> 34:08.280] you see the creatures like detail, painted, lovely art style. And then when you zoom in on the [34:08.280 –> 34:13.160] village, you get like little cartoony people. Um, they’re cute. It’s a fun juxtaposition. I just [34:13.160 –> 34:18.840] think that’s a neat idea to do it. Um, yeah, no, it looks cool. Um, very, yeah, we get game pad. I [34:18.840 –> 34:23.160] feel like, I feel like I don’t play games unless they get, I’d say that I’ve done it before, [34:23.160 –> 34:26.360] but I really would like to play every game with a game pad and then like the keyboard. [34:26.360 –> 34:33.880] Uh, next we have brand new game announcement, farming simulator 23 is releasing this May. [34:34.520 –> 34:42.120] This was very funny to me. It is funny just in general, right? Like, I find it really funny [34:42.120 –> 34:48.680] that they’re still doing this to releases a farming simulator. So the one year they release the [34:48.680 –> 34:54.760] main game that comes out on PC and PlayStation and Xbox. And then the next year they’ll do one that [34:54.760 –> 34:58.600] comes out on mobile and switch. And it’s just really funny that they’re still doing that. [34:58.600 –> 35:02.920] I don’t know why that’s still funny to me, but it is still fun. It’s bizarre. It is bizarre, [35:02.920 –> 35:09.480] but I mean, hey, like, they have a community. I don’t want to, and listen to you. I mean, [35:09.480 –> 35:17.880] they keep keep this game going game. It looks like the best fun simulator game. Um, and we’ll say [35:17.880 –> 35:25.960] that of farming games. It is. Yeah. It really is. Um, so good good for those people. I read through [35:25.960 –> 35:32.680] those updates and additions and they mentioned crops. I don’t even know what is sorghum. That’s [35:32.680 –> 35:39.160] a new crop. Sorghum. Okay. I don’t know what that is. You can grow grapes and olives too. [35:40.120 –> 35:43.880] It’s funny that it is. If I find it funny, they didn’t have grapes up to this point. [35:43.880 –> 35:47.800] Olives sure. They’ve seen quite niche, but it’s funny that they didn’t have grapes. [35:48.680 –> 35:53.400] Yeah. Can I say that for the next game? You know, like the keep on your toes. Yeah. [35:54.440 –> 35:58.440] Yeah. Four is around the bend, but also I interestingly adding an AI helper. [35:59.000 –> 36:05.240] Oh, that’s wonderful. See, it’s an auto generate crops to see. I don’t know. They’ve not said [36:05.240 –> 36:11.640] anything about it. Just it’s a thing. I will say like for as much as almost the meme as it is in [36:11.640 –> 36:18.280] our corner here and on this podcast, like I think farming simulator does its job very well. [36:18.280 –> 36:22.200] I think some of these other gibs probably could take a few notes from them. [36:24.120 –> 36:31.000] Just again, like so many other things are very stardew derivative. It’d be nice to see a little [36:31.000 –> 36:40.520] more emphasis on the actual farming, but that just me. And apparently sorghum is grown as cereals [36:40.520 –> 36:46.920] for human consumption and in some in pastures for animals. Okay. There you go. So exciting. [36:48.440 –> 36:54.040] It’s a nice well-known grain in the world. Yeah. Well, I’m sure their community is hyped over it. [36:54.600 –> 37:00.120] It comes a distant fifth for most produced grades. I’m like fifth. Fifth seems quite high to me. [37:00.120 –> 37:07.880] My body rice wheat and corn. So it’s above oats. It’s more it’s it’s produced more than oats. [37:07.880 –> 37:14.600] What? That’s way. I didn’t know that oats wasn’t in that list. Was it farming simulator? [37:14.600 –> 37:17.960] Does it drop again? Here’s a live on the podcast, educating us. [37:19.160 –> 37:25.240] I need to find out the real estate. Most produced grains. You’ve got to think what’s that [37:25.240 –> 37:30.840] soy must be pretty high, right? I would think so. But yeah, did we say the date for that May [37:30.840 –> 37:37.800] 23? I get that. Corn is the top. Then wheat, then rice, then barley, then sorghum, then oats, [37:37.800 –> 37:43.320] then rye. Oh, I don’t I don’t see a soy not a grain. Is that what it is? It’s a pedantic thing. [37:43.880 –> 37:47.800] I think it is. What is soy? So it is not a grain. It is a bean. [37:47.800 –> 37:55.800] Pulse. Oh my. What? It’s a it’s a little just got fog. Okay. Lagoon. Okay. Yes. I know the [37:55.800 –> 38:05.800] Gooms. Yes. Like a peanut. Yeah. Another bean. Not a not. Right. Moving on from the very niche conversation. [38:06.520 –> 38:11.720] Wait. I think this is more why I think this is more on topic than anything else we could [38:11.720 –> 38:17.240] buzz a little bit. This is why we changed. This is why we changed the cottage core. [38:17.240 –> 38:25.960] No. Final piece of news is there’s a new game that’s just come out called Don groan. [38:27.080 –> 38:30.840] And this I’ll just read the blub for this one. A short adventure about healing people’s [38:30.840 –> 38:37.160] inner worlds from corruption and confront emotions in this refreshingly cute adventure about [38:37.160 –> 38:40.840] cleansing people’s inner worlds of doubt and pain. You are as you’re the frog. [38:40.840 –> 38:47.000] Journey from the foliage floating in the sky to the minds of the afflicted as you cleanse [38:47.000 –> 38:53.640] their rich inner worlds from the dark ooze that corrupts them. Okay. Um, the, um, sorry, [38:53.640 –> 38:58.680] good. No, go ahead. You can give your thoughts. Oh, well, I was just going to say like looking at [38:58.680 –> 39:06.520] all of these trailers from indie developers and I see their subscriber count at like 30, 47, 10. [39:06.520 –> 39:12.040] And I’m like, oh, look at these guys. They’re, they’re really, they’re really working. Yeah. Yeah. [39:12.040 –> 39:18.200] No. I mean, that, that’s pretty common in our neighborhoods too. Um, but I mean, hey, that’s, [39:18.200 –> 39:23.160] that’s part of this with this podcast is we’re right. Uh, okay. So I have three things to say about [39:23.160 –> 39:28.200] this game. One, uh, the pixel art very nice, very stylish. I like it. Mine to be a bull. There’s [39:28.200 –> 39:35.240] all the games. Um, two, that said, the game cannot be as posi. There’s no way could ever be as [39:35.240 –> 39:41.800] possibly cute as the, uh, the like actual, uh, art of the frog, like the little title art with [39:41.800 –> 39:47.240] him. That is it. Oh, yes. I thought the same thing. Like the, like the, the, the cover image. [39:47.240 –> 39:52.680] Yeah. It’s that frog is too cute and, and I feel bad for them that they could never replicate [39:52.680 –> 40:00.040] that with pixels and nothing against them. That’s just the Herculean task. Um, and three, it’s a [40:00.040 –> 40:08.440] novel, an interesting idea. Um, it’s basically power simulator, but like on a 2D plane, um, [40:08.440 –> 40:12.520] or power washing simulator, it gets to any minute. You guys know what I meant? Um, I did. [40:12.520 –> 40:16.360] Yeah. You’re just, right. Well, actually, assumed you had said to the whole sentence. [40:17.560 &nd

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In this week's episode we discuss the recent raid of former president Donald Trumps Mar-A-Lago estate for stolen classified documents. We also discuss the recent moral high ground people are taking to protect "MAPS". We also take a deep dive into the IRS potentially doubling in size after a recent bill passed the senate which was immediately followed by a job posting stating that the IRS position would require carrying a firearm and the use of deadly force.    Subscribe and leave a 5-star review! ----more---- Our website https://redpillrevolution.co   Protect your family and support the Red Pill Revolution Podcast with Affordable Life Insurance. 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It's like literally back to back to back to back like crazy wild events, which I guess is good for the news and podcasting world, but kind of wild just to be an everyday citizen, trying to do your job and be a good father and mother and person with friendships. But here we. So we might as well talk about it.  so on episode number 39 of the red pill revolution podcast, we are going to discuss 86,852 new IRS employees now to be hired after a bill passed the Senate. And on the back of that, the IRS posted literally today posted a job posting, talking about hiring, essentially IRS agents who are willing to pick up a weapon and use deadly force. I wonder what type of tax of agent warrants, the IRS murdering us citizens . So we will discuss that. We are also going to jump into the, obviously the Mar Lago Trump situation, Trump, this. Was rated by the FBI. So we will discuss what happened. 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Now that you've done that  then let's go ahead and let's jump into it. And here we go. Episode number 39 of the red pill revolution podcast. Welcome to red pill revolution. My name is Austin Adams. Red pill revolution started out with me realizing everything that I knew, everything that I believed, everything I interpreted about my life is through the lens of the information I was spoon fed as a child, religion, politics, history, conspiracies, Hollywood medicine, money, food, all of it, everything we know was tactfully written to influence your decisions and your view on reality by those in power. Now I'm on a mission, a mission to retrain and reeducate myself to find the true reality of what is behind that curtain. And I'm taking your ass with me. Welcome to the revolution. All right. So the very first thing that we were gonna discuss was a bill was passed hiring, allowing the hire of 87,000 new IRS agents who are going to come after everyday citizens, swarming every little deduction that you have ever taken  in your entire life. Uh, now this is, and if you realize how many people actually work at the IRS currently, it's about half of this. So they just doubled their working force and in the attempt to recoup and reclaim all of the money that they have frivolously spent in Ukraine. . So I wonder if you take the, I don't know what the number is at this point, like $80 billion or so that we've sent to Ukraine. Um, I wonder how much of. Uh, IRS attempt is now not only in an attempt like, so they're not only spending your tax hours, frivol frivolously, they're hiring, uh, or they're sending it to a war that we're not a part of. And then to fund their overspending and the inflation that they've caused themselves. They're now going to go back and recheck your taxes. You know, the taxes that they already spent on everything they've wanted to spend, uh, by hiring and doubling their working force to do so now that's not as crazy as the next topic that we're gonna discuss, which is absolutely a part of this topic, which is, you know, we already kind of talked about with the, I. Having job postings talking about deadly force. Uh, but let's go ahead and read this article about the 86,852 new IRS agents. It goes on to say that you've probably heard Republicans say the inflation reduction act. The massive spending bill with just passed by Senate Democrats, including provisions to hire 87,000 new internal revenue service agents. The number seems too big to believe the I, the IRS currently just has 93,654 employees, according to the office of personnel management. By the way, this article is coming from the town hall. Uh, now it goes on to say that why would Congress in one bill increase the IRS workforce by something like 92%? It doesn't seem possible that math does not add up anyways. It certainly doesn't seem wise. It's not wise, but it is possible. And that's why, what 50 Senate Democrats, along with the tie breaking vice president Kamala Harris. I wish I could do a good impression of her laugh  um, did, when they passed the inflation reduction act, which gives roughly 80 billion to the IRS now, and, uh, 2031, the name inflation reduction act was a RO to convince gullible voters that Democrats are actually doing something about inflation. If you were curious where this, this, uh, news articles, uh, bias lies, the bill itself is made of expensive climate measures. Plus prescription drug provisions, tax increases in initiative to increase IRS enforcement. The inflation inflation, the inflation reduction act is the slim down version of the even more massive build back better bill. Interesting. I did not know that. Which failed earlier this year, due to the opposition of democratic Senator Joe mansion, we know a lot about the IRS provisions of the new bill, because the same provisions were in the build back better plan, which the administration extensively promoted, you know, the build back better plan. That was basically the ideation coming off of the book written by clause Schwab himself, you know, the, the true evil, uh, puppet master. It says that's where the 87,000 figure comes from in May, 2021. The treasury department produced a 22 page analysis of build back better. And in supporting tables, the documents had, the bill would add 86,852, or, uh, full-time equivalent employees to the IRS between now and the year 2031 do a little rounding. And there's the 87,000. Interesting. So I had no idea that this was approx, just a smaller ideation of the original built back, better plan. And if you don't know about that, I'm pretty sure. I'm actually positive that that whole idea of build back better comes from the world economic forum. 100%. They had a whole like, uh, a whole meeting where all the world leaders came together, talking about the build back better plan, according to Claus, Schwab, I guess my K Schwab is maybe a little bit better than Kamala Harris, but probably a little bit closer. Toula  um, although you're probably not too far off with Kro and Dracula anyways. Um, so I find that to be somewhat concerning right now. There's a clip here that's been circulating about Peter Ducey, uh, where he discusses, um, why they may be doing so in the concerns about the 87,000 people. And it's at the back of it, we'll actually watch it on the backs of one of the clips that we're looking at, discussing the FBI rate of Donald Trump. Because it's kind of like a really end snippet during the white house, press secretary discussion on that. Uh, but what she says is that they're only going to go after people who make more than $400,000 a year. And now this article actually talks about that. And that is what they consider to be upper class, not middle class. So they're going to be going after people who make more than $400,000 a year, and nobody under that line. Now she goes on in that same discussion to call them taxi VAERS and tax. I don't know what the word she was, but it was somewhat venomous term to describe everyday people who are literally just trying to fill out bullshit forms so they can pay your salary dummy anyways, uh, Pretty crazy, but not as crazy as the next one. The next one that we're going to discuss here is what they immediately did. Following this bill being passed by the Senate, they immediately posted a job posting. So everybody's already wildly upset by the fact that the IRS is more than likely going to audit, basically everybody in the United States now, um, as a result of this, you know, according to them only people who make over $400,000 a year, but obviously that's not actually going to be the case. Um, so let's look at what the more concerning part of this is, but before we discuss that, the next thing I need you to do is go over to red pill, revolution dot. All right now you can actually go to my website, which is red pill, revolution dot C o.com is for losers. So head over to red pill, revolution.co, and you can actually sign up for the subst directly on there. You can see AC I redid the whole website. I've been spending a ton of time on this guy. So, um, trying my best over here to learn how to build WordPress websites for you.  and I think I did the decent job. So head over to red pill, revolution dot C, and you can actually watch all of the video episodes. 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So I would appreciate it now on the backs of that, let's go ahead and talk about what piggybacks that last topic, which is the IRS is seeking armed accountants, ready to use deadly force. Now the IRS posted a job posting today, which caused immense backlash from the general public. I wonder why. When you have a bunch of nerds sitting there using Excel spreadsheets all day now holding AR 15 assault rifles, looking to kill everyday citizens because you , you deducted a, a lunch meeting when, you know, there's a secret agent sitting there with earpiece and listening, and then all of a sudden pulls a gun on you and shoots you in the head because they know that wasn't the proper deduction. I could just almost, I can imagine the amount of skits that you can make off of this. Um, but there's probably a lot, right? I'll just, let's, let's go with, um, instead of double oh seven, it's gonna be, you know, agent 10 99.  I don't know. There's so many, so much good material in this. Um, but you'll let the comedians work that out themselves. Uh, so this is wild. So I'll read this article a little bit for you. Um, I don't, I wanna shy away from reading too much, uh, because I have some shit to say myself. Um, but this goes on to say that even before Congress and president Joe Biden give the final, okay. For the IRS to hire 87,000 more agents. Uh, and again, that's a good thing is that this bill still has yet to pass Congress or Joe Biden. Um, so we still have a chance to not, you know, maybe potentially get killed by IRS agents, which would be a positive, uh, but, um, the final, okay. For the IRS bill to hire 87,000 more agents and the 80 billion package, the tax agency is revealing a priority job category that could get first dibs on the huge budget expansion on its job page listing of vacancies for special agents at the IRS to be placed around the country to root out financial fraud. But these are opening more than just financial experts. They will also be armed among the requirements listed is to carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force for the I R S. If necessary. It says when, when I'm sorry, when is it necessary for anything to do with financial obligations, filling out tax forms for an IRS agent agent 10 99  to, to be carrying any type of weapon and perhaps rating houses, just like the FBI just did to Donald Trump. I can only imagine what they're gonna be doing here, but it's quite concerning. And, and if you don't know, the IRS has been purchasing millions of dollars of ammunition over the last several years. Millions of dollars. Now I wonder where that money came from. Oh yeah. The IRS is spending your tax dollars buying ammunition so they can arm themselves to go raid your homes and then kill you as a result of going into your home to figure out how much money you didn't pay them for them to pay themselves, to buy more ammunition, to kill more Americans. What the fuck kind of weird clown mirror multiverse. Did I end up in where the IRS is hiring special agents to use deadly force? I don't know. I made, if you've seen the movie, if you, if you haven't seen the movie, I guess it's, uh, everywhere all the time. Something like that. Every place, I don't know. Probably one of my favorite movies that's come out in the last five years. Um, it's like everywhere all the time. I don't know something like that. Um, go check it out. Cause that movie is incredible. It just it's actually ironically written by the same people who write the, uh, Marvel movies, where the multiverse is such a consistent topic. But it's a, it's quite interesting to see how they actually go about the multiverse situation and, and to see those sprinkles of the multiverse be like riddled into our entertainment, uh, is quite interesting too. It's something I'm interested in researching further and doing a full episode on, because I think the multiverse theory is quite an interesting one. Um, but I definitely made a wrong decision somewhere to end up in the multiverse where all of this wild stuff is happening.  and apparently so did you, so I'm sorry that we made these bad decisions together  so the article goes on to. That among the job requirements listed, it is to carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force if necessary, special agents who can be placed around the nation and the world have an interesting job. According to the IRS description, they are financial analysts and armed officers ready for a shootout. Um, there was a tweet listed by Ford Fisher who I believe started was the biggest tweet, uh, that kind of started this, eh, maybe not the biggest one, but it was a part of it. Um, getting into something what, where people found to be interesting enough for it to circulate this way. And it was directly from the IRS website and it says some of these standards that the individuals have to conform to in order to operate under this, you know, agent 10 99  is to adhere to the highest standards of conduct, especially in maintaining honesty and integrity work a minimum of 50 hours a week, which may include irregular hours and be on. 24 7, including holidays and weekends. Keep in mind, this job is like $55,000 a year to 70,000 potentially. So not only are you overworking, you're underpaid, you're on call. Like you're a medical surgeon and you're carrying a firearm willing to use deadly force, like your double oh seven . Um, and then it also says be willing to able to participate in arrests, execution of search warrants and other dangerous assignments. Now he goes on to say that they will combine accounting skills with law enforcement skills to investigate financial crimes, all income earned, both legal and illegal has the potential of becoming involved in these crimes, which fall within the investigative jurisdictions of the IRS criminal investigation. And this is from their website, which talks about the criminal investigation, uh, branch of the IRS.  and it says, who are we? The criminal investigation is the law enforcement branch of the IRS. Our mission is to serve the American public. You mean shoot them in their house for forgetting to deduct something properly anyways, to serve the American public asterisks by investigating potential criminal violations of the internal revenue code and related to financial crimes in a manner that fosters confidence in the tax system and compliance with the law. As a special agent, you will combine your accounting skills with law enforcement skills to investigate financial crimes. Special agents are duly sworn law enforcement officers who are trained to follow the money. Ooh, cool statement IRS, no matter what the source all income earned, both legal and illegal has potential becoming involved in these crimes with fallen within the investigative services. He goes on to tweet that while the newly hired feds are required to carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, the government adds the criminal investigation. Special agents are a part of a diverse workforce that. Mirrors the tax paying public, we serve. Interesting. Um, and also here's a interesting article which backs up my former claim about the, all of the ammunition they've been buying between March 1st and June 20 or June 1st, 2021. The criminal division of the IRS has ordered seven or $696,000 in an ammunition. And the IRS told verify in an email in 2018, the report, the IRS showed it to generally spend $675,000 on ammunition a year in the previous seven years. So in a single year, they spend as much as they did in seven years. So what, how crazy is that? And if you don't know, like the cost of ammunition, it's about, you know, depending on what you're shooting is about. Uh, I don't know when I. Ammunition was about a, well, I never bought ammunition. Um, but uh, last time I didn't buy ammunition. It was about a dollar round for like 5, 5, 6, a little bit more for blackout rounds. Uh, nine millimeter. I mean it all falls falls generally around that nine millimeter can be a little bit more expensive. So if you take that, obviously they're buying it in bulk pretty big bulk, um, that $675,000 or $700,000 in a year amounts to about just let's go easy dummy math, about $700,000 worth of rounds more because they're buying it in bulk. What in the hell is the IRS doing with $700,000 and are 700,000 rounds of ammunition? What, what in the world could they be? What type of operations is the IRS conducting or are they just stockpiling this? So when Biden inflation continues to occur that eventually they can come after everyday citizens who disagree with them, audit them. Kick down their door. And if you don't comply with them and fill out your tax forms properly, they're gonna shoot you in the head. And that, uh, article about that came from verify this.com sounds super legitimate.  it's like one of those fact checking websites, maybe. Um, I know, um, so pretty wild. The fact that the IRS is looking to hire special agents to conduct raids on every day. Citizens we'll see where it goes from here, but I think this, I legitimately think this stuff's about to get pretty wild over the next, I don't know, five to seven years or so. Um, we'll see, you know, just seeing how much damage has occurred in the last 365 days. I don't know how long, you know, since the presidency occurred, how much inflation has occurred, how how much gas prices have gone up, how much food prices have gone up. Um, and we'll actually look at some of these, uh, discussions here in a second about that. Um, In the Peter Ducey questionings here.  but the next topic that we are going to discuss is going to be, there's better clip that's been circulating and I've tried to just shy away from these topics. Like I said, in the last episode, like my stuff is just like so far shadow band to beyond oblivion on like Instagram. I have 50,000 followers, 200 people see my story. Um, so I would always appreciate it if you share my stuff, it's literally the only way that my stuff gets out. Um, all social channels are red pill revolt, uh, pretty easy to find backup channels. Uh, just two Ts on the back end. Um, so anyways, uh, I don't know where I was going with that. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. I've been trying to get away from the topic of discussing like the trans the, you know, but there's one that really sticks out to me. That's bothersome. And it's the situation that we're seeing. There's a TikTok video. That's been going around a, um, some weird type of sex therapist talking about maps. And if you don't know what a map is. You do, you just don't cushion the title because you see them for what they are. So let's go ahead and watch this video. We'll see what this woman has to say about it. And then we will discuss it as always. And here we go, folks. My name is Miranda. I use she her pronouns and I'm a licensed professional counselor and sex therapist in Erie, Pennsylvania. And today I wanna talk about minor attracted persons, and I want to talk about minor attracted persons because they are probably the most vilified population of folks in our culture. And most folks are making incorrect assumptions about them without actually knowing much about them. Yeah, the assumption is that they're pedophiles. There's no wrong assumptions there. If you are a. You are a minor attracted person. You are somebody who is interested in minors sexually. Maybe we should. You know, I, I, I've been really hating the label of murderer lately. We just call them individuals who like to end lives. And the acronym is I L E L I LS are the new ones that we're going to protect individuals who like to end lives. I am so sick of everybody in the world, just hating on the, I LS the individuals who end lives. It is the, one of the most outrageous things that everybody wants to jump on. The backs of these. I LS the fact that you want to call out these people who end lives. They, they don't control that they have these urges to kill people. They don't have, they don't control that at all. Just like I like to go on walks. They like to murder people. There's nothing wrong with that urge. Now we just need to stop this right now. We need to stop it in its tracks, because if we don't stop this right now, the I LS of the world, whereas you call them murderers. They're gonna feel bad about themselves. Oh, poor. I LS. What could we do? Everybody's assuming they're bad people. They're not bad people. They just have urges to kill people anyways, and those assumptions create harm for an already marginalized population. You may have noticed that I'm using the term minor, attracted persons, sometimes abbreviated to maps instead of the more commonly used term pedophile. And I'm doing this because the term pedophile has moved from being a diagnostic label, to being a judgemental, hurtful insult that we H at people in order to harm them or slander them. I also prefer person first language that recognizes that any label we might apply to a person is only part of who they are and doesn't represent everything that they are. Yeah. It just talks about the part of who they are that wants to sexually assault minors who cannot consent, what kind of mental gymnastics. And I think that last analogy pretty much sums it up of how ridiculous this is. Nobody's marginalizing this group. This group is literally people who want to sexually assault children and children cannot consent. If you wanna argue the fact that people should be able to do this. You're wildly, obviously you're you are in that class of individuals. Otherwise you wouldn't be arguing that, but you have to understand too. There's like this movement behind there, there literally is. If you're saying there's not watch this video, watch this individual, who's trying to do mental gymnastics and play these PC games and trying to, and that's what I've said all along. It's the whole reason for the acronym, right? The ABC, the FGS of the world. Eventually the plus turns into a M there's going to be an M on there. Eventually if enough people like this don't seek don't get enough resistance immediately by the general public. This woman is literally sitting here protecting, and I guarantee you, I guarantee you with every fiber of my being that this woman does not have children guaranteed. This woman does not have children because this woman's sitting there literally thinking through the idea of her being the pedophile. And wanting to defend the pedophile, not the child, not the innocent individual who cannot defend themselves, not the in innocent individual. Who's not allowed to be advertised to legally because the implications of them not being able to realize when somebody is trying to take advantage of them for profit, literally there's advertising laws against advertising the minors. You wanna know why, because they're not fully developed and they cannot reasonably understand when somebody is trying to take advantage of them for profit. So if you can't reasonably advertise to somebody who's under 18 specifically, why should you be able to take advantage of them sexually? It blows my mind that this woman she's has a bald head. Still know, she's a woman, , she's a woman. This woman is sitting here and especially trying to like speak immediately, starts her sentence with a, um, with a, uh, figure of authority, right. She tries to present herself as I'm a licensed sex therapist and, and somebody who, you know, whatever bullshit a, you know, uh, she, she tried to claim herself to be as, as a person who knows better than you, who calls people, pedophiles, pedophiles, right? Just it's just a label. It's only a part of who they are that likes to sexually assault minors. It's, it's so crazy to me, so wild to me. And I think that like I L E L scenario, like just perfectly sums it up. If you wanna say that it's just part of who they are that they wanna murder. They have this internal urge to snap a neck from somebody beside them. like, where do we, where do we draw the line here? If we're not gonna draw the line that literally, if you go to jail, if you go to jail, The only class of, of criminal, not murderers, not the worst of the tax of the world, that the IRS is going after the people who the incarcerated individuals. And we'll talk about that in a second, because that's wild too. New York just decided to change the name of inmate to incarcerated individuals. Um, but when you go to jail, the only class of individual who is looked at as the scum, the scum of the jail is the pedophile. You're the ones that you are going to literally probably get your ass kicked over and over and over and over again, because you're the worst of the worst of the worst of the inmates that are in there. And they hate you for the actions that you did to the citizens or the children. That you conducted them on. And this lady, this licensed sex therapist has the audacity to sit in a public forum, put out this video and believe that she was in the moral high ground for protecting individuals who want to sexually assault minors. That's where we're at. That's the multiverse that me and you find ourselves in today when we took a left turn, because we chose to eat a hot dog instead of a hamburger  like seven years ago. Um, it's, it's so crazy. We're halfway through the clip. So we'll watch the rest of it. Here. We are all people first with many different facets or parts of ourselves. And this includes folks who are attracted to minor. So to start with, let's talk about what a minor attracted person is or who they are. This term simply means that the person has an enduring sexual or romantic attraction to minors. They've not chosen this attraction just as the rest of us have not chosen whatever our attraction is. You don't get to choose to be heterosexual or to be gay or, or whatever you are. And you don't get to choose to be a minor attracted person. Some minor attracted persons are attracted to a specific age range of minors while some are not. And some minor attracted persons are exclusively attracted to minors and are not attracted to adults at all. Some minor attracted persons are also attracted to adults. Wow. Thank you for that riveting discussion. And the clarification as to what a pedophile is. We know we're well aware of what a pedophile is. We've known this for millennia. What a pedophile is, didn't change my opinion on what a, that we should be out here, singing praises and doing parades for the maps of the world. Now you should probably still get your ass kicked in prison for doing horrific things to children, not changing my opinion on that. So I don't know. It's, it's, it's so crazy to me that this woman gets on there speaking from her moral high ground and thinks that people want to hear this, like thinks that she's like defending the, the, you know, individuals of the world who need to be defended. No, they don't need to be defended. They're predators who prey on children because they're sick in the head. Just the same way that. Somebody who murders somebody. It's just a facet of who they are. It's a small part of them likes to slit people's throats. You know, they're a dad, they're a husband, they're a, they're a brother. They, they like to play basketball on the weekends. And some nights after 11:00 PM for approximately 20 to 25 minutes, they also like to murder people.  we shouldn't, we shouldn't, you know, be mad at them for that. It's just an urge that they feel inside of them to do so crazy. It, it, I, I literally cannot say anything more about that besides the fact that that woman needs to lose whatever license she claims to have. If she actually has one or needs one for the profession that she's in, because she's obviously just as insane as the individuals that she feels the need to. All right. Now, the next thing that we're going to discuss is going to be the biggest topic of discussion, which has been.  on everybody's mind recently, which is probably a wild indication of where our nation is going or not our nation, but the governmental agencies that claim to protect us. Um, so let's just jump into it. Donald Trump's Malago estate got rated by the FBI in a situation that has never happened in the history of the United States. The FBI has never rated a former president's house looking for documents or for any other reason. Now we'll get into some of the details of why we actually think this might be some of the crazier theories on that. Um, but actually one thing that I forgot was the, the New York thing on that, basically what, you know, I skipped over that thought train there, but let, let me go back for a second. What ended up happening is New York decided to de change their definition of inmate. To incarcerated person because they believed that they were a marginalized group. So let's see if I can find an article that explains that real quick for you, because I think it's pretty weird where we're getting to where we're trying to pad the idea  of, of we're. We're literally trying to protect those of us. Now. I am, am a firm believer that the United States, the freest country in the world is not that we're the exact opposite of that. We have more incarcerated individuals than the next three first world countries combined, and more so than like almost every other country under that combined as well. So I believe that we far, far. Imprisoned people in the United States, way more than we should, way, way, way, way more than we should. Okay. Um, so let me start with that premise. I, I do not believe that we should be incarcerating people at the rates that we are. I think that we are the, you know, you claim to be the freest country in the world, but yet you have more humans behind bars than any other country at all in the world per capita, by far per capita and even more than just the average statistic. So, and then on the backs of that, you know, you have the re situation where we're literally trying to trade Russian mobster, arms dealers called like the, what is, I don't remember his name, but it was like his, his, uh, like nickname was like the bloody something. I don't know it was something wild, but we were literally trying to trade a arms dealer who was going after us citizens with bombs, for somebody who was smoking weed or bringing on marijuana cartridges in Russia. Yet. We have hundreds of thousands of fathers, mothers, daughters, humans sitting behind bars today, eating bullshit food because they wanted to smoke something, eat, ingest, something that is literally legal in however many states today, like 17 or more states at this point, marijuana's legal and we're negotiating terrorists to free this one individual in Russia. Yet we have hundreds of thousands of people behind bars today, and it's still a federal schedule, one drug. I don't know how I got in that tangent, but anyways, back to New York , which is that New York is to, uh, New York changes the term inmate to incarcerated individual with the goal. Let's see that article's gone. Um, New York to scrap inmate in favor of incarcerated individual in new state law said New York will no longer refer to prisoners as inmates and will instead call them incarcerated individuals. According to a new law, um, democratic New York governor surprise, surprise, Kathy. Hoel signed the legislation Monday. She argues that removing the term inmate will help to reduce a harmful stigma against incarcerated people by correcting outdated terminology. Oh, you don't like the sound that I say with my mouth, Missy, in, in New York, we're doing everything in our power to show that justice and safety can go hand in hand. We can make our streets and communities safer by giving justice involved, individuals, justice involved, indivi, what the fuck? What are we doing here? Next thing you know, Webster is gonna be changing the definition of incarcerated. We can make our streets and communities safer. She says by giving justice involved individuals, the chance to complete the rehabilitation program and work at the same time by treating all new Yorkers with dignity and respect, we can improve public safety while ensuring new Yorkers have a fair shot at the second chance. Oh, you think changing the word is gonna do that for them. Democratic state Senator. Gustavo Rivera sponsored the legisla legislation through the New York state legislator. According to Rochester first for too long, we, as a society have thought of incarcerated individuals as less than people, the use of the word inmate further dehumanizes and demoralizes them. This is another concrete step. Our state is taking to make our criminal justice system one that focuses on rehabilitation rather than relying solely on punishment. The New York law is the latest example of a trend among Democrat Democrats, Democrats. That damn did I just come up with a new slogan?  is a new trend among Democrats to adjust current terminology, progressive Democrats, uh, Republican, or I'm sorry. Progressive Democrats like representative Corey Bush have also pushed towards referring to mothers and women as birthing people wrong. When we talk about birthing people, we we're being inclusive. It's that simple. We're using gender neutral language when talking about pregnancy. No, because pregnancy's not gender neutral bitch. Only women only. Uterus is only vaginas have the power to birth children. And you cannot take away from women. The fact that they're literally superheroes who can 3d print organic material better than any machines or science that we have today, you cannot take that superpower away from them is the most incredible thing that a human can do ever. And only half of us can do it. And I could never claim to birth a child, been a part of several births. I have several children and I cannot do what my wife did. Cannot do it promise you no matter how hard I squeeze, no matter how much I push my belly out, I cannot have a child. Um, anyways, so that's wild. How many words, like in true 1984 fashion, all of the definitions are being changed to appease the Democrats. And I, I, it's just so weird. It's so bizarre that we've gotten to this point. Um, but anyways, I just wanted to elaborate on what that actual idea was before I moved on. So I know you were just so thirsty to wonder about new York's use of the term incarcerated individual So anyways, let's go back to the Donald Trump situation. So Donald Trump's Malago estate was recently rated by the FBI for reasons that they say is specifically due to 17 boxes of documents that he took from the white house, some containing classified information. So. Is that bullshit probably. Um, there's probably many, many other reasons, you know, they could probably have come up with a far better excuse than that, but that is the current reason why they're saying that they did. So we will find out, obviously there will probably be very little charges. Donald Trump seems to believe from an articles that I've read that they are doing this to make sure that he cannot run again in 2024, if nothing else is going to embolden him and his followers to continue following him and to continue pointing at what is going on in their nation today with extreme concern. Because if they can literally raid Donald Trump's house, they can very, very, very, very easily do it with no pushback to me. And you obviously, right? None of us are as powerful or as rich or as capable legally as Donald Trump. And they did it to him without. Even giving him a search warrant, allegedly, uh, and, and kicked out his attorney, which we'll find out in an article that we discussed about that Eric Trump talks about. So one of the first things that came up with this is people talking about who actually executed this, who signed off on this warrant. And one of the more interesting, uh, things was this list that came out of three individuals, Bruce rein. Bruce Reinhardt, if you don't know who Bruce Reinhardt was, he was a, uh, lawyer who attempted to assist with the trafficking, uh, uh, the individuals who were in trouble after the Jeffrey Epstein case. So he literally helped protect the sex trafficking, uh, and individuals who were maps.  the, the gross, disgusting pedophiles who were a part of Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking ring. He went to protect them. And, you know, we were talking about why people's houses, who should actually be rated. Right? And we'll look at that in just a second. But, so these were a few people who signed off in this Bruce Reinhardt. He helped sex traffick or Jeffrey Epstein escape from any real justice. This tweet side, which comes from Robbie S. He also talks about me Garland being the other one, which says Trump took his nomination away from the Supreme court. And then Chris Ray, who's the FBI chief that Trump tried to fire according to this individual, over his horrific job performance. And they all signed off on the rating of president Trump's house. Now we'll look a little bit more into each one of those because I find it to be interesting that these individuals are the ones who decided that he's the one for these documents whose homes should be rated. Now the first article that comes up talks about, uh, let's see if I can find it here. It came out of the, uh, same one that I read earlier, town hall. So we'll see if we can find that article. Um, but it talked about, uh, Merick Garland. And it says that mayor Garland faces possible impeachment. I believe this was just a statement made by Ram Paul, but they say that he was confident that attorney general me Garland could face possible impeachment over the FBI raid of formal or former president Donald Trump's Florida estate, predicting that a full investigation won't happen until after the midterms commence in November. Paul demanded for the order to raid Trump's house to be revealed. Um, yeah, probably not happened in there. Um, now the, uh, other thing that came up out of this was that. Let's see if we can find it here. So this was about Bruce Reinhardt. Now this is a tweet that came from comfortably smug, quite the Twitter name. Um, but it says that on October, uh, this came from, oh, it doesn't say where the article came from, but it says on October 23rd, 2007 as federal prosecutors in south Florida were in the midst of a tense negotiation to finalize a plea deal with accused sex traffick or Jeffrey Epstein. A senior prosecutor in their office was quietly laying out plans to leave the us attorney's office. After 11 years on that date, as 11 emails were flying between Epstein's lawyer and federal prosecutors, Bruce Reinhardt. Now a federal magistrate opened and a litigation li or a limited liability company. Sorry. It's like blacked out on that spot limited liability company in Florida that established what would become his new criminal defense practice. The stated address, according to. Florida state corporate records was two 50 south Australian avenue, suite 1400. It was the same location, an identical suite number as that of Jeffrey Epstein's lead attorney. Interesting. It says by the end of the year, Reinhardt had resigned his post. Um, in the district of Florida within days on January 2nd, 2008, he was hired to represent several of Epstein's accused accomplices, who would later like Epstein re receive federal immunity for allegedly trafficking, underage girls. Allegedly Reinhardt's defection was one of many, highly unusual turns that the Epstein case took 12 years ago moves that could merit examination as the multimillionaires controversial non prosecution agreement is dissected in the wake of this arrest last week on sex trafficking charges. That was an older article, but interesting, nonetheless, that this is the individual who's signing off on Donald Trump. If you're curious if this has any political motivations and is purely justice doing justice things, probably not somebody who cares about justice is the person who's helping people get out of sex trafficking minors. All right, so let's go ahead and let's watch the clip of Peter Ducey, um, going back and forth with the new press. Secretary don't really care for her name yet. Um, but here it is. Thanks. KA. Do you consider Donald Trump to be a political rival of president Biden? I, I'm not gonna speak to that from here, but you talk about Trump all the time. So do you consider him to be, I don't talk about Trump all the time. Ultra Maga, you guys were criticizing his handling of COVID last week. You've mentioned his January 6th response a couple days ago. So can you say based on all that? I, I didn't say anything about Marla. I'm just asking you if you considered the president, I'm saying from here, I'm not gonna comment on that. Does the president still, so you're not gonna comment on the idea that he's a political adversary. He was literally the person. Biden Rangan. That's the definition of a political adversary.  why you're, if you're deflecting that question, I'm sure you're answering literally nothing. And if you've been watching her over time, she's even worse than her predecessor, which was very difficult to do, but she doesn't even seem to E attempt even to answer questions and even circle back as the term would be before. Uh, but she doesn't even answer that. And then you'll see here, she goes on to literal. Basically answer none of these questions, but, um, still interesting to see how she reacts nonetheless by, eh, I don't bring up his name. Yes, you do. Every single conversation they have in that room at least drops his name one time or another. Want to, uh, think that he would be very fortunate to run against Trump in 2024. Like he had said before again, I'm not gonna comment on it's just, it's just spoke. I'm the president in the next election. I'd be very fortunate if I had that same man running against me. Does he still, oh, I can tell you, Peter, is that the president intends to run in 2024? Is there a concern here that if you guys don't say more than these Republicans who are accusing this white house of weaponizing, the justice department weaponizing, the FBI are, that's gonna become the, the public sentiment. If you guys don't say once, and for all, we are not doing that first, first of all, We're just not going to comment on the department of justice investigation. Okay. We're we're just not going to comment on that. Is this white house weaponizing, the justice department and the FBI against, against political opponents? The president has been very clear, uh, from before he was elected. Very clear on this. Hold on throughout his time in office, I heard the quote. We will be playing the quote tonight at six o'clock. I actually do appreciate because there's probably very little other actual individuals in that room that actually push back against this. As you can see how uncomfortable the sea of individuals is around him as these journalists. Uh, but I can appreciate Peter Ducey because he's actually, he's quite quick on his feet to realize what she's doing to realize. She's literally just parroting a quote that he already said, and he's quick to jump in and go, okay, I get that a hundred. Now actually answer my question. Are they weaponizing the FBI? Because as we saw, they did this to project Veritas, they raid their homes for the Ashley Biden diary under the direction of Joe Biden. Very, very clearly. There's no other reason. And they found nothing. They'd prosecuted. Nobody, nobody went to jail. They're literally intimidating people. Like they're a, a mob, the mafia of Joe Biden, right? Why, why else would the FBI be kicking down the doors of journalist homes searching for a kid's a woman's diary? Why a diary, by the way, that outlines that there was inappropriate showers with Joe Biden, that she believes affected her sexual urges later in life, that she believes made her hypersexualized. And the reason that she looks at sexuality, the way that she did, which is why it was such a big deal and why it got hushed so bad when you can actually go find the Ashley Biden diary. If you look at her subst. Red pill, revolution.com or directly on red pill, revolution dot COO back a few, few, few episodes, probably 10 or so episodes ago, I actually listed it in one of the Biden hunter Biden, deep dives that I did. You can get the full diary right on there. Uh, I listed it in there for you and gave the link, but, uh, the diary outlined a bunch of weird things. You kind of saw some, you know, it gave me some empathy for Ashley Biden and seeing the situations that she's in and the mental health issues that she deals with and the family issues that she's dealt with and hardships and stuff. But one of the things that stood out about that was the fact that she talked about trying to unravel her difficulty with sexuality later in life and believing that she had inappropriate showers with her father, uh, in her early years, which comes at no surprise when you see that a hundred by or a hundred Biden. Well also him, but Joe Biden sniffing every child that comes within three feet of him. 30 feet of him, even in some cases  crazy. Uh, but weaponizing the FBI against project Veritas for legally obtaining a diary, the president's daughter's diary, like how crazy, how wild is that? That imagine if somebody steals your daughter's diary and you hire a mob of individuals to go kick down their door to go see who found it. That's what the president of the United States did with the FBI here. And now again is doing it against the guy who he is a political adversary of no matter how much she doesn't wanna say it is a political adversary of is now sending the FBI to his home, to raid his home with weapons in hand to find documents. Right. Of course. But again, I appreciate what Peter Ducey is doing here because there's very, very, there's no other clips that we're finding of anybody. There's no other clips of any other journalist who's pushing back in these white house briefings the way that Peter Ducey does and for him to jump in. And, and really, and now I would love to hear why can you not say yes or no? Why would you not want to answer the fact that the FBI is not being weaponized by the president of the United States to go after a former president in the way that nobody's ever done ever in the history of the United States ever? Why would you not just say no, we're not doing that. That would be illegal. You can't even comment that it's illegal because you don't want it to come out later that there was some connection between Joe Biden and the FBI raiding a former president's house is this administration weaponizing, the justice department and the FBI against political opponent. Peter, the president believes in the rule of law, the president believes in the independence of just say of the department of justice, say yes or no, just is white house. No, it's a yes or a no for you. I'm answering the question in the question is a yes or no question. What do you mean? You're answering the question. You're not answering the question. You're skirting around it in every way possible. You're not saying no, we are not. Or yes, we are. You don't get to that's. That's how questions work, especially a question that says, are you doing this? I believe in the justice system of America. No, it's a yes or no question. Answer the damn question. You may not like it, but I'm answering the question and I'm no, Nope. I'm answering the question and I'm telling you that we are not going to comment on a criminal investigation. The present has been very. I laid out what his thoughts were back on January 7th in 20, in 2021 about how he saw the department of justice. And I'm just going to leave it there. We are not going to comment from here from this white house on a criminal investigation that is currently happening. And just one more about the inflation reduction act, who, and here's where he goes down to talk about the IRS situation. So I will, we'll let it run for here for a second. So we can circle back to the original type of archive, beginning part of our conversation. So here's that I'm here decided that Americans were crying out for more interaction with the IRS. I, I don't understand your question. You have to say more. Do you think it's gonna be popular when the 87,000 new employees hired by the IRS, go around and start auditing people to pay for the inflation reduction act. So it's very clear. Uh, the IRS commissioner was very clear on this. He said that on, on the record,  that this only will, it will only apply to those earning over $400,000. The commissioner said, and I quote, these resources are absolutely not about increasing audit scrutiny on small businesses or middle income Americans. As we have been planning, our invest investment of these enforcement resources is designed around treasury directive. That audit rates will not rise relative to recent years for households making under $400,000. So no audit. This is, this is focus on those who are, uh, uh, you know, corporate wealthy tax sheets that Republicans, congressional Republicans wanted to, uh, defend that's who they wanted to defend. They wanted to defend those corporate, uh, tax sheets. This is not about, this is not about that. This is not about folks who make less than $400,000. So no new audits on anybody making a hundred, $400,000 here. No, very clear. No. She failed to mention, she failed to mention the part where they were literally arming these IRS agents and giving them the use of deadly for the What is it? The license to kill of double oh seven, like, gosh. All right. So there's that. And then the last one that I will leave you guys with here is going to be the comment of president, uh, former president Donald Trump's, uh, associate Dana white, who talks about the Mari Lago raid, which I thought was an interesting perspective on it, which we'll talk about more in just a. Uh, another one of your friends, Donald Trump. Yeah. Just had his place rated. I was wondering if you had any thoughts about that? Yeah. Um, I it's it's madness, man. The, the whole, the whole, the whole world is crazy right now. Some people have mentioned that we now live in a post constitutional America or a banana Republic. Yeah. It's interesting, man. I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what to think about any of that stuff. I, again, cuz I don't know enough about it, but uh, yeah, I can think of about, you know, without getting political right now and getting into all this  bullshit, but there's 10 other people's houses that probably should have been rated before, before his, that haven't happened. So it'd be interesting to see how this plays. I love that response. There's 10 other people whose houses should have been rated. You know what? And I wish he would've given names, but since he didn't, I will, here's 10 people who should have been rated before Donald Trump. The first one talking about assassinations is Hillary Clinton. The body count just keeps rising for the Clinton family and nothing at all is done about it ever. There's a guy who literally shot himself twice in the head. There's a guy who hung himself, shot himself in the head and then crawled three miles, maybe. Maybe you should raid her house. The next person is Zoe J Simpson. He definitely killed that woman. The next one is Nancy Pelosi, skirting every, every insider trader law ever, maybe raid her house. And you'll find exactly where all, all of the, uh, you know, the legal stock information and the real boxes that you should be looking for here. Next person I'll throw on that list is P Diddy because he definitely killed Tupac.  this maybe raided his house. The next personnel list is prince Andrew, who is the creepiest pedophile in the history of humanity next to Jeffrey Epstein on every plane ride ever to grope and sexually assault underage girls. The next one would be the man, the big guy himself, Joe Biden, for many, many reasons, including collusion, as well as profiting from his position as vice president of the United States, among many, many, many other things that hopefully come out. Once we see the, you know, hunter Biden situation be followed up on. And speaking of hunter Biden, the individual who is now flying on the plane flying literally on air force one this week was hunter Biden. Meanwhile, Donald Trump's home is getting raid and the individual who is showing that he was inappropriate with individuals in his own family who are underage, who had literal documentation of working his father's influence with China, Russia, and Ukraine. Uh, the next one would be bill gates, obviously for many, many reasons crimes against humanity and all of the people that he killed under his own doctorate over the last several days. And then the other one would be bill Clinton. Oh, and I didn't even mention Anthony Fauci, the rat of all rats, who is literally responsible for all of the death of aids individuals, all of the deaths of the COVID situation. Uh, so many, so many, so many reasons go read the Robert Kennedy Jr. Book to find out exactly why, but there, there is 10 individuals who should absolutely have had their homes rated before Donald Trump did. There you go. And that my friends is what I will leave you with today.  all right. So a wild situation that has occurred, um, and we will see how it plays out. If anything actually comes of this, it seems like in attempt to intimidate Donald Trump or else we would've had a search warrant listed everywhere. It would've been plastered on the walls. The exact reason, every news article ever, if they actually had dirt on him, would've talked about how Donald Trump was gonna be arrested and, you know, it's bullshit and just an attempt to intimidate him. But I. As always time will tell. So again, thank you guys so much for listening. Go head over to red pill, revolution dot C oh.com is for losers. Head over to the new website. Tell me what you think. 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Note: This post is made for listening :) but I'm including the transcript if that is not your jam. TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Hey there. I wanted to follow up on my other note about one of two things leaders are responsible for. The second one is compensation. And there's a whole lot to unpack there, so let's try to do it through a little bit of a story. I'm going to answer a question I get all the time, and that's “why did you join the army?”[00:00:18] And the reason is pretty simple, it was about compensation.Why did I join the army? [00:00:22] Let's go back 20 years, and it's 9/11. I remember very clearly where I was maybe like, most of you. I was at The Breakers, which is a posh hotel in Palm Beach, Florida.That Tuesday morning, I found myself in a meeting room getting ready to give a presentation on a new piece of software. News started to trickle in that something had happened in New York and it wasn't clear how bad it was.More information would come and we'd realize that something horrific had happened.[AUDIO CLIP]It was a very emotional day for everyone, and we'd spend the balance of it huddled around the TV, listening and trying to learn what was going on? I'm trying to understand what was happening in new Yorkers, what would happen to our country, and what our future would be like? What we did know is it was all going to be very different.A DecisionA couple of days later, I woke up and I made a decision. Channeling a very famous scene from the movie Patton and my grandfather, I decided that I wanted to join the Marine Corps. In fact, I wanted to be a pilot. So I marched down to the Marine Corps recruiting office and I started that process.Over the course of the next few months, and a lot of tests and a lot of things, the Marine Corps told me that I wasn't cut out to do that. They wanted me to be an infantry officer and that's not what I wanted. I think if I look back, it was purely a lack of commitment on my side. Maybe too slow, maybe too colorblind, but if I wanted it, I probably could have gotten it.[00:03:48] And if I'm being honest, I quit. Now the good news is a couple of weeks later I'd say something that would change my life forever and really impact everyone around me.At the hotel, there was a long hallway, a very narrow hallway, the kind where you have to step aside so two people can pass each other. On the walls, they had motivational posters from the 1990s, complete with eagles soaring and all the things. Now, this was the time before we all started pushing pixels via email and you had to get your information from printed documents. Down on the right, there is a small room about the size of a closet. This was a mail room. This is where those documents ended up in little slots on the wall.[00:04:33] I remember that day. I remember what the room smelled like, the temperature, and a beige phone sitting on the counter. My vision started to blur and that phone was my focus and I said out loud, "If there's ever another war, I'm gonna enlist."Don't pass go. Don't collect $200. Skip all your egotistical dreams about being a Marine or a Naval aviator or any of those things. Just go get in the fight, Vohs. Now looking back, that was a little naive - but that's what happened.I had a deep, deep, emotional desire to serve a country that had given me so much. I knew for the rest of my life, that it was going to give me more. I needed to do something about it. I needed to serve. At my core, I wanted to defend freedom as hokey as that sounds. That's my, "why."[00:05:26] It's also part of the reason why I ended up picking to go and special forces because their motto is De Oppresso Liber - "to free the oppressed". Now if I reflect back and go a little deeper, there are other emotions at play here, some of them were, self-centered like a desire for admiration and an immature understanding of war highly influenced by Hollywood.So not long after that speech to myself, we would end up invading Iraq. And whether you agree with the politics or not, that at 26 year old, we returned to that moment in that mail room and that beige telephone and he got to work. Two weeks later, on my mom's birthday, I would end up enlisting. Happy birthday, mom.[00:06:09] Here's the deal. My ratio changed. My compensation ratio.The Compensation Ratio & The Three Types of CompensationEconomical[00:06:21] The first is economical. What am I going to get paid? We all need or want to put food on the table, steaks in the freezer, and Tesla's on the charger. Now as leaders, there are a couple of questions we should ask about the economical form of compensation for our team.Are people being paid well, and how does it compare to the market?What would it cost to replace this role?And most importantly, do they feel valued for what you're paying them?ExperientialThe second is experiential. Everyone, whether they realize it or not wants to grow and get better.Ask yourself, are you providing an opportunity for people to gain experience? Are you providing them with opportunities for education? Is there learning curve steep?A near-vertical learning curve is better. A job that challenges you 90% of the time is the right job. Now here's the thing, I use the word opportunity intentionally because you can't lead a horse to water and make' them drink. But you need to give the team opportunities to learn and grow.Emotional[00:07:20] The last one, and the most important if you asked me, is emotional.The one truly non-renewable resource we have is time. We can't get it back. We want to spend our time doing good things with good people. Things that matter with people we love. We want to wake up and look at our calendar on that little Star Trek inspired device and say, it's going to be a good day. We want to have a deep, emotional connection to the people around us and to the mission. This is where leaders come in. They shine a light on the path. This is the mission, this is where we're headed, and this is why we're going to spend our most valuable currency, time, going after it.What's the right ratio?What's the correct ratio? Only you can answer that and it's probably going to change over the course of your life. Everyone's different.For the most part, there are deep reasons why we do what we do. Stories usually go back to our childhood. Around money, love, admiration, and the other things that have shaped us.[00:08:18] As you think about why people stay on your team or why you do what you do. It's always about compensation.Do we pay them well?Are they growing and learning?Are they connected to what they do and who they do it with?If you don't provide them those opportunities, I promise you, somebody else will.We Want Missionaries, Not Mercenaries[00:08:36] Let's pause for a moment and talk about money. We all have different desires for various reasons. Maybe you need to put food on the table, maybe you want a submarine or a helicopter, and maybe you just need to pay for your great aunt's nursing home that you don't tell anybody about. We may never be able to understand everybody's wants or needs, just let them be them.That said, we have to be very careful when somebody's compensation ratio is near a hundred percent focused on economics. Let's put those living paycheck to paycheck or near poverty aside for a moment. If you have someone on your team that's coming in every single day and all they care about is how much they are making, that's a problem. And that can be caustic. After all, we want missionaries, not mercenaries.My Ratio Changed, Again[00:09:23] Speaking of missions and mercenaries, I would end up getting out of the army and it was because my compensation ratio changed, again.Specifically the emotional part. The mission changed. Princess Buttercup and I had welcomed three barrel-chested freedom fighters into the family. And now it became less about fighting for freedom and more about fighting for them.The new mission for me was to be the very best father and husband I could possibly be. And I felt that I wasn't going to be able to be that person that I wanted to be. [AUDIO CLIP]There are green Berets out there that are able to do both - be an incredible father/husband and be a Green Beret, but that wasn't me. I tip my hat to them, but I had to hang up my little green hat so that I could focus on those little men.My gut is that as I get older and wiser, my compensation ratio is not done changing. I continue to get clearer and clearer on what is most important to me in life and what my humans around me need from me.Well, I hope you found this helpful. These are just some thoughts from a guy making it up as he goes. And if you did find it helpful, please share it with someone. And whatever you do, take care out there.[00:10:54] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kellyvohs.substack.com

In this episode, you'll learn what it takes to become a successful author while you discover the upbringing in the Cherokee culture. On this episode of the Gateway to the Smokies Podcast, we have a very special guest, Annette Saunooke Clapsaddle, a renowned author, writer, and educator. She is the author of Even as We Breathe, one of the best books of 2020 by National Public Radio. She is a graduate of Yale University and William and Mary and an enrolled member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Tribe. Annette resides with her family in Qualla, N.C., and is an avid mountain biker, and a staunch advocate for equal rights, education, and Cherokee history. She's joining us to talk about her journey of writing her award-winning debut novel, Even as We Breathe, and her latest book. She will also discuss the Cherokee education system, the importance of language preservation, and how we can influence change in our communities. Don't miss this out! ‍Tune in for this fun conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by clicking here.Show NotesSegment 1Joseph kicks off today's episode mentioning the sponsors, The Meadowlark Motel in Maggie Valley and smokiesadventure.com. Joseph announces that this is his first podcast as a resident again in North Carolina! Some upcoming events include June 11 with a pottery seminar with Cory Plott, a master craftsman, who will teach you how to create your own handmade pottery. On June 18th, there will be part 4 of the heritage book series with Bob Plott, free for guests and members. Check out more events at meadowlarkmotel.com. He also introduces his guest, Annette Saunooke Clapsaddle. She is the author of Even as We Breathe, one of the best books of 2020 by National Public Radio. Annette was born and raised in the Smokies and a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Tribe for her whole life. Her grandfather also has history with the tribe as well; his name was Osley Saunooke. She talks about how fascinating he was. Did you know that Osley was a wrestling world champion?! She also speaks about working in the family business and how her parents influenced her in learning and entrepreneurship.Segment 2Annette talks about getting her bachelor's degree from Yale University. She also got her Masters's degree at William and Mary. She talks about why chose to come back to the Smokies. Annette mentions her family and the connections she has in North Carolina and wants to continue to raise her family there. Annette also was a director if the Cherokee Preservation Foundation. She was also a teacher for 12 years. She also talks about her writing. Annette mentions having amazing teachers growing up which influenced her to be creative. She mentions a quote someone from Yale said to her and her mother when they visited the first time. The quote was “the best thing to do with a world-class education is to share it.” Her goals as a teacher are to create empathy and resilience through writing and the process. Some topics she mentions within this are making mistakes and the work that is part of this like the process of editing and writing. She discusses some ways she would teach her students. Annette talks about a manuscript that never officially got published called Going to Water. It's about a fictional story of her grandfather. She never got to know who he actually was as he passed away at an early age. So the character in the story was as close to what she knew of him, full of adventure.Segment 3Annette talks about her book Even as We Breathe, which came out in 2020. She says that she had read an article about the role that the Grove Park Inn played in World War II and Ashville's role as well. This history wasn't familiar to many historians and people like herself who have lived in Ashville for a long time. She gave herself a writing prompt and spent a long time writing on the simplest object that she could think of. In her method of writing, Annette spent time in a very tiny room in the Jackson County Library in Sylva, North Carolina. She talks about the story of what she wrote. She is very inspired by where she loves and the interactions as shown in her novel. It takes place in 1942 and is a coming-of-age kind of story. Until she was working on the marketing packet, she didn't realize that she wrote historical fiction. Other topics include issues of identity, racism, and Cherokee culture. She tells a funny story about teaching her students. She also talks about her decision to retire from teaching.Segment 4Annette says that she is working on a new book, a novel that's contemporary with a female protagonist. It's set in Cherokee, which is close to home. She also does nonfiction writing for regional magazines and edits for the Appalachian Future Series through the University Press of Kentucky. She also talks about teaching workshops in different locations. Annette also talks about mountain biking. She says that she likes to be in the middle of the woods, biking fast, and being isolated for a moment from everything. She even lost 65 pounds by mountain biking. Annette and Joseph also discuss favorite trails in North Carolina. For people going to visit Cherokee Reservation, Annette mentions visiting Sassy Sunflower, a sandwich shop. If you want a country buffet, you have to go to Granny's kitchen and get a pie. You can learn more about Annette at asaunookeclapsaddle.com. 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Admission is $20 per person, for all these events call eight to 89261717 to reserve your seat now.00:06:05.640 –> 00:06:13.740 Joseph McElroy: Today we have a great guest, who knows a lot about Cherokee culture and stories in these mountains her name is Annette Saunooke Clapsaddle00:06:14.250 –> 00:06:25.140 Joseph McElroy: She is a renowned author writer and educator and is a graduate of Yale University and William and Mary as well as an enrolled member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Tribe.00:06:25.830 –> 00:06:37.710 Joseph McElroy: Her award-winning debut novel Even as we breathe, was the first novel published by a member of the eastern band of the Cherokee tribe, and his name or the best books of 2020 by the.00:06:38.370 –> 00:06:54.300 Joseph McElroy: NPR and that resides with their family in Qualla North Carolina, which is in in the Cherokee reservation and as an avid mountain bikers well as a staunch advocate for equal rights education Cherokee history hello, and how are you doing.00:06:54.900 –> 00:06:57.540 Annette Clapsaddle: I'm good I'm great to be here with you.00:06:58.110 –> 00:07:05.610 Joseph McElroy: Well, thank you for it's quite an honor to have you join us today you have a you have an interesting history and an impressive resume.00:07:06.000 –> 00:07:15.750 Joseph McElroy: And all of a sudden, you get all sorts of awards for your writing so that's pretty spectacular, but I wanted to start first with your background, you were born and raised in the smokies, right?00:07:16.440 –> 00:07:21.660 Annette Clapsaddle: that's right I lived here all my life, except for undergraduate and graduate school.00:07:22.140 –> 00:07:27.870 Joseph McElroy: cool and you've been a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee tribe for that your whole life too right.00:07:28.230 –> 00:07:29.220 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah born in to it.00:07:30.120 –> 00:07:36.990 Joseph McElroy: Born into it, you have some history that your grandfather Osley Saunooke was chief of the tribe, right?00:07:37.680 –> 00:07:49.710 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah it seems Osley Burke Saunooke and he was an Eastern Chief in the 50s and into the early 60s.00:07:51.990 –> 00:07:54.360 Annette Clapsaddle: fan, where he was not a cheap teacher.00:07:54.810 –> 00:08:08.130 Joseph McElroy: cool well, And he was quite an interesting character in his own right, an esteemed tribal chief, a former Marine, who started a thriving tourist business in 1956 that as I understand it, is still operational today. What was that business?00:08:09.720 –> 00:08:10.080 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah.00:08:12.180 –> 00:08:19.590 Annette Clapsaddle: Trading first, and so the land where that is and it's also contiguous with kind of family land.00:08:20.670 –> 00:08:21.060 Annette Clapsaddle: That.00:08:22.170 –> 00:08:33.660 Annette Clapsaddle: That is home to cynics village so there are several shops there that kind of threw out of Chiefs in trading paste including to nicks millen shop that my dad built.00:08:34.890 –> 00:08:38.850 Joseph McElroy: cool well, it sounds like you to write about a book about him, you got any plans for that.00:08:41.340 –> 00:08:44.070 Annette Clapsaddle: I think we're going to talk later about my first novel and.00:08:48.210 –> 00:08:57.990 Joseph McElroy:  Bob Plott, as I mentioned earlier, our Meadowlark Heritage Center Director says his relatives knew him well and hunted with him often and spoke glowingly of him.00:08:59.400 –> 00:09:00.810 Joseph McElroy: Did you know him as a child and.00:09:02.880 –> 00:09:05.370 Joseph McElroy: How did he influence you and your growth.00:09:06.210 –> 00:09:22.080 Annette Clapsaddle: Unfortunately I didn't he died fairly young from complications to diabetes, so he passed away in 1965 at the age of 59 I was born in 81 so even my dad was fairly young.00:09:23.160 –> 00:09:39.930 Annette Clapsaddle: When my grandfather passed away but, honestly, was, in addition to being a to turn chief and a businessman, he was the heavyweight wrestling champion of the world, at one time, so he traveled the wrestling circuit.00:09:41.370 –> 00:09:43.740 Annette Clapsaddle: So he is incredibly fascinated.00:09:44.730 –> 00:09:46.590 Joseph McElroy: With the name from okay I.00:09:47.850 –> 00:09:56.820 Annette Clapsaddle: heard and like I'm sure Bob would say that everybody has a story about him whether it's true or not, what.00:09:58.110 –> 00:10:02.940 Joseph McElroy: When they're a bear museum there that had stuff for him as well, he.00:10:03.240 –> 00:10:03.900 At one paragraph.00:10:05.220 –> 00:10:08.970 Annette Clapsaddle: And yes, and that's it same area yeah.00:10:09.780 –> 00:10:12.630 Joseph McElroy: He wrestled so he wrestled a bear I mean I'm sure it was for sure.00:10:17.130 –> 00:10:24.990 Joseph McElroy: You know in this in this in this neighborhood North Asheville where we moved in we get lots of bears I've already had two black bears in my backyard.00:10:26.850 –> 00:10:28.140 Annette Clapsaddle: wrestling and I don't.00:10:30.210 –> 00:10:31.830 Joseph McElroy: i'm not planning on it, but.00:10:33.090 –> 00:10:36.360 Joseph McElroy: I will, I will say loud noises to them.00:10:39.660 –> 00:10:42.180 Joseph McElroy: So you're your mother.00:10:43.590 –> 00:10:47.550 Joseph McElroy: your mother, who is this daughter was a teacher, which you are as well right.00:10:48.030 –> 00:10:54.390 Annette Clapsaddle: Well, so yes and no so my mother is not his daughter my dad was his son.00:10:54.510 –> 00:11:00.930 Annette Clapsaddle: Oh, I said Okay, but my mom was a teacher for several years.00:11:03.120 –> 00:11:14.010 Annette Clapsaddle: And my dad was building his business and getting started and then my mom went to help full time with the family business and snakes village.00:11:15.030 –> 00:11:24.300 Annette Clapsaddle: But she taught reading, and this was before I was born and didn't really have click in with me that you know you can.00:11:24.690 –> 00:11:35.760 Annette Clapsaddle: You can be a teacher not be in a classroom, and so I think that she did in a lot of ways to influence me, even though I didn't grow up knowing her as a classroom teacher cool.00:11:37.590 –> 00:11:40.380 Joseph McElroy: So you guys, did you work in the family businesses as well.00:11:41.010 –> 00:11:41.640 Annette Clapsaddle: Oh yes.00:11:43.830 –> 00:11:43.980 Annette Clapsaddle: I think.00:11:44.910 –> 00:11:47.700 Joseph McElroy: wanted to work in this I worked in this Meadowlark motel businesses.00:11:49.200 –> 00:11:49.830 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah.00:11:50.250 –> 00:11:53.430 Annette Clapsaddle: As long as we can see over the counter we were hired.00:11:53.940 –> 00:11:56.280 Joseph McElroy: Right I got paid the.00:11:56.280 –> 00:11:58.080 Joseph McElroy: diamond room to clean rooms.00:12:02.220 –> 00:12:04.110 Annette Clapsaddle: got paid a bag of popcorn.00:12:09.300 –> 00:12:12.150 Joseph McElroy: Did that inspire you with his entrepreneurial activities.00:12:12.750 –> 00:12:16.110 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah you know I'm always inspired by my dad and.00:12:16.710 –> 00:12:23.490 Annette Clapsaddle: And yeah, I think, to be an entrepreneur is you know you have to be willing to take risks, so I don't feel like I've been.00:12:24.120 –> 00:12:33.090 Annette Clapsaddle: there yet, but I can take some of the same risks that he's taken throughout his life, it really turned out to be worth it, and but there's a creativity to it.00:12:34.080 –> 00:12:48.300 Annette Clapsaddle: That I have appreciated and I think I have picked up a little bit at least have that from him and I'm laughing myself because my dad was above me and lives in the House of the Hill and.00:12:49.740 –> 00:13:05.940 Annette Clapsaddle: And we my son and I were just helping him move a major piece of equipment in a really peculiar precarious way and that kind of and I, you know there's something that small business owners that want to do it themselves for the cheapest route possible.00:13:07.530 –> 00:13:21.150 Joseph McElroy: I had that imbued with me, but you know until I got into my 50s I did all my moves myself, you know that includes all the heavy furniture, but I can remember, sometimes having a pickup truck with things so pile though so high.00:13:22.200 –> 00:13:24.840 Joseph McElroy: I think, and this is a New York City, no less, and things.00:13:25.470 –> 00:13:30.000 Joseph McElroy: You know, getting ready to fall off, but you know that was just the way you did things right.00:13:32.160 –> 00:13:41.970 Joseph McElroy: That that was the life of the entrepreneur and the children of the entrepreneur, well, we have to go back and go and take a break, now that seems very quick, but we.00:13:42.660 –> 00:13:48.750 Joseph McElroy: we're having a good conversation here, so when we come back we'll start talking about a little bit more about your background and then get into your books.00:13:49.590 –> 00:13:50.190 Annette Clapsaddle: sounds great.00:16:06.270 –> 00:16:23.970 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcasts and my guests Annette Saunooke Clapsaddle today is a today's a craft brewery from Western North Carolina is boozer but it's the king of the mountain double IPA and I can recommend that highly.00:16:25.620 –> 00:16:26.190 Annette Clapsaddle: victory.00:16:27.120 –> 00:16:28.140 Annette Clapsaddle: Right yeah.00:16:28.500 –> 00:16:39.210 Joseph McElroy: So that you have this great you had this great family and tribal support system and you became an honor student and then off you go to Yale University to get your bachelor's degree—right?00:16:40.410 –> 00:16:45.960 Joseph McElroy: Were you one of the first students from the Smokies to get an Ivy League education?00:16:46.530 –> 00:16:52.290 Annette Clapsaddle: And there were a few before me did had Ivy league education and.00:16:53.550 –> 00:17:08.310 Annette Clapsaddle: I know that there was a gentleman who had graduated from Dartmouth and there's a Tribal Member, and then a couple that I think we had gotten graduate degrees, maybe one undergraduate from Harvard I believe.00:17:09.060 –> 00:17:17.700 Annette Clapsaddle: don't hold me to it, but I believe that was the first Eastern band undergraduate at Yale, but I'm so happy to say that.00:17:19.020 –> 00:17:30.060 Annette Clapsaddle: Several has followed and after me, some and that just sent off one of my seniors and this year should be going to Yale in the fall.00:17:30.570 –> 00:17:45.120 Joseph McElroy: fabulous that's great no that's always good you know dispel that hillbilly stereotyping I I got to do a little bit of that myself I got to leave here and go to go to what the school system here in Haywood county got to go to Duke.00:17:46.260 –> 00:17:47.310 Joseph McElroy: yeah so.00:17:47.760 –> 00:17:53.190 Joseph McElroy: But you know it can be done in this in this remote wilderness, so to speak.00:17:55.290 –> 00:17:58.560 Joseph McElroy: And then you went to you got your master's degree at William and Mary.00:17:59.100 –> 00:17:59.790 Joseph McElroy: And you.00:17:59.850 –> 00:18:06.720 Joseph McElroy: and could probably have gotten a great job in any major city in the world, but yet you chose to come back home to the Smokies—why?00:18:07.350 –> 00:18:25.410 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah you know I did think for a short time about you know public policy in DC or something like that, but and I always tell people that you know so many people work their whole lives, so they can retire to this area, why don't I just start from the beginning.00:18:26.610 –> 00:18:33.990 Annette Clapsaddle: there's no point wasting time it is beautiful and certainly many family connections here.00:18:35.340 –> 00:18:47.280 Annette Clapsaddle: My husband is also from this area as well he's from swine county so I just had so many routes here and I didn't you know I've traveled my whole life I don't feel like I.00:18:49.020 –> 00:18:51.060 Annette Clapsaddle: was afraid to live anywhere else.00:18:52.170 –> 00:18:56.550 Annette Clapsaddle: But it's just such a beautiful place to be I like this face of it.00:18:58.110 –> 00:19:01.980 Annette Clapsaddle: And you know I want to raise my kids here.00:19:02.730 –> 00:19:07.050 Joseph McElroy: yeah well you got you did your00:19:08.040 –> 00:19:17.250 Joseph McElroy: Working and business and things and public policy or the Executive Director of the Cherokee preservation Foundation and the co-editor of the journal.00:19:17.670 –> 00:19:24.840 Joseph McElroy: Of Cherokee studies, but then you took your master's and your Ivy league degree and you became a teacher was the teacher for 11 years in high school.00:19:26.370 –> 00:19:26.760 Joseph McElroy: wasn't.00:19:28.140 –> 00:19:30.540 Joseph McElroy: That was an interesting choice what made that choice have.00:19:31.800 –> 00:19:45.240 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah so well I just completed my 12th year there was a little bit of a break, there were loud, while I was at the foundation, but I've known since I was little that I wanted to be a teacher I'm not exactly sure why.00:19:47.430 –> 00:20:01.230 Annette Clapsaddle: But we had a garden out in front of our house and they're the really big rocks different places in the garden, and so I made one of the biggest rocks was a teacher's desk and then they were student desk rocks.00:20:02.640 –> 00:20:09.300 Annette Clapsaddle: So my brother he's three years older than me went off to school to you know kindergarten and.00:20:09.870 –> 00:20:24.570 Annette Clapsaddle: How is playing school in our garden there's been something about teaching since I was little and that's interested me but I've also been so blessed with incredible incredible teachers throughout my life.00:20:25.650 –> 00:20:31.770 Annette Clapsaddle: You know, public I was a public school student kindergarten through high school.00:20:31.980 –> 00:20:33.330 Annette Clapsaddle: Meeting yes.00:20:34.560 –> 00:20:47.370 Annette Clapsaddle: And just had phenomenal teachers and I wanted to be like the English teachers, I had who always encouraged my creativity and writing.00:20:47.850 –> 00:20:54.480 Joseph McElroy: I saw a quote where you in a magazine, where you said, the best thing to do with a world-class education is to share it.00:20:55.050 –> 00:20:55.980 Annette Clapsaddle: Yes, so.00:20:56.280 –> 00:20:59.640 Annette Clapsaddle: The Director of the teacher prep program at Yale.00:21:00.810 –> 00:21:04.710 Annette Clapsaddle: is responsible for that quote because I stepped down to the campus.00:21:05.730 –> 00:21:11.340 Annette Clapsaddle: At Yale new haven Connecticut and my mom is with me revisiting and.00:21:12.630 –> 00:21:30.090 Annette Clapsaddle: We were introduced to the director of the teacher prep program and my mom who is very practical looked at him and says why would she go to Yale to become a teacher and he said that's, the best thing you can do with a world-class education.00:21:31.770 –> 00:21:33.510 Annette Clapsaddle: Today and my mom was, like all right good.00:21:34.800 –> 00:21:46.830 Joseph McElroy: yo there you go wow so, but now you also started writing, and in fact, in 2012 years sort of had a little success at it when did you first start writing?00:21:47.760 –> 00:22:05.970 Annette Clapsaddle: I read in my whole life, and you know I as I again I had these great teachers, so I still have these books that we made an elementary school out of you know cardboard and lined paper that we would take together and.00:22:07.080 –> 00:22:11.040 Annette Clapsaddle: I think my first writing contest was.00:22:13.230 –> 00:22:15.780 Annette Clapsaddle: It was either late middle school early.00:22:18.060 –> 00:22:20.490 Annette Clapsaddle: High School i'm actually i'm looking at.00:22:21.690 –> 00:22:34.860 Annette Clapsaddle: Night so my dad got me this very present I'm looking at a framed check and this is the first time I got paid for it my writing and because it was the first time I want a writing contest it happened big poetry which not my thing.00:22:35.910 –> 00:22:38.550 Annette Clapsaddle: But the date on the check is 1995.00:22:39.780 –> 00:22:47.910 Annette Clapsaddle: Freshman year I guess of high school is, I guess, if you know if you're entering contests you're getting a little serious about it.00:22:48.930 –> 00:22:52.050 Joseph McElroy: let's go see you are, you are actually very serious early on.00:22:52.530 –> 00:23:00.330 Joseph McElroy: yeah that's pretty cool and then you continue it, I mean a lot of people have the romance of being a writer, but don't follow through.00:23:00.840 –> 00:23:09.300 Joseph McElroy: it's nice Now I understand you know you're you know you've been writing on the side because you're a teacher but you've been using your experiences.00:23:09.960 –> 00:23:19.980 Joseph McElroy: Such as manuscripts as submissions finding agent rejects and notice, etc, with your so you've been sharing those experiences with your students why Why are you doing that?00:23:20.370 –> 00:23:24.120 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah well rejections a great teacher and I had plenty of it.00:23:27.090 –> 00:23:27.810 Annette Clapsaddle: You know, I think.00:23:29.010 –> 00:23:41.040 Annette Clapsaddle: my goal as a teacher is to one create empathy through literature, but also a sense of resilience in the writing process so.00:23:42.900 –> 00:23:57.780 Annette Clapsaddle: you know I tried to balance, as she lives her, I was teaching and writing and then I realized how much I was learning as a student of literature, through my own process as a writer, so I.00:23:59.700 –> 00:24:13.950 Annette Clapsaddle: Would talk to students about what does a query letter look like and what's important to share, about a story, you know that I'm trying to pitch or whatnot and about the mistakes, I would make.00:24:15.060 –> 00:24:23.880 Annette Clapsaddle: And, and how to overcome them and they love that you know their teachers, making mistakes like this.00:24:25.530 –> 00:24:26.610 Annette Clapsaddle: But also.00:24:29.010 –> 00:24:38.580 Annette Clapsaddle: As you know, there are really like two cohorts of students that went through the process of the novel and it was so exciting to00:24:39.210 –> 00:24:54.630 Annette Clapsaddle: And yeah I told them I would get an email from an agent, this is early on, and then I query you know I would say okay guys, I have an email in my inbox I haven't read it, yet here we go and I would read it to you know.00:24:55.980 –> 00:24:56.940 Annette Clapsaddle: They want to know.00:24:59.580 –> 00:25:17.370 Annette Clapsaddle: The classic got to witness the publication process that means, and that was a very special time and then they went through the editing process with me and with you know, not everything, but to say Okay, do you see this, this is just one page of edits.00:25:18.510 –> 00:25:29.520 Annette Clapsaddle: Do it for them to understand it that's part of it and then, then, of course, this last class and they think they want to go on book tour with me.00:25:33.180 –> 00:25:37.770 Annette Clapsaddle: Right yeah publicity endemic because that's what they've gotten.00:25:37.830 –> 00:25:49.320 Annette Clapsaddle: to witness and they've been a part of some of my like zoom calls and whatnot and especially with the University of it's a good experience for them.00:25:50.160 –> 00:25:59.790 Joseph McElroy: it's nice to make your life part of the education process, I understand that your kids now have your know ambitions to be world-class or whatever they do right.00:26:00.300 –> 00:26:05.370 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah then it's possible that they know somebody it becomes normalized for them and.00:26:07.200 –> 00:26:11.400 Joseph McElroy: normalizes normalizing education normalizing success, I mean.00:26:11.820 –> 00:26:18.390 Joseph McElroy: That you know I talked about where people follow the patterns of success right when they see patterns that are successful.00:26:18.660 –> 00:26:31.560 Joseph McElroy: They will naturally start replicating those right and it's important for children to see those I think it's a wonderful thing to show them that process, you know firsthand well I can't my tip my hat to you that's great.00:26:33.540 –> 00:26:40.200 Joseph McElroy: So I mentioned before, I think, in 2012 your first manuscript won an award that was never published, can you tell us what that was and.00:26:41.220 –> 00:26:43.140 Joseph McElroy: Why I didn't publish and that sort of thing.00:26:43.470 –> 00:26:54.960 Annette Clapsaddle: So the title of that was going to water, and it was a finalist for him bellwether for is essentially engaged fiction and then one a couple of other awards but.00:26:56.160 –> 00:27:07.770 Annette Clapsaddle: It is the fictionalized story of my grandfather asked listening, but I changed names and whatnot to protect the innocent and the reasons.00:27:08.100 –> 00:27:22.470 Annette Clapsaddle: And you know, besides the fact he did the fascinating character, as I mentioned earlier, I never really felt like I'd know the full truth of who he was until I decided to make up, who I thought he would be.00:27:24.120 –> 00:27:36.270 Annette Clapsaddle: How he might react to the situation, so I use a lot of the facts from his life and but you know it is still fiction I don't want to make my aunts and uncles mad at me, sir.00:27:38.550 –> 00:27:56.400 Annette Clapsaddle: But you know it got close to publication a few times and I just I was trying to find an agent who understood that voice of where I come from that initial man Cherokees very different than other tribes and never really could quite connect with the right agent.00:27:56.490 –> 00:27:59.100 Annette Clapsaddle: So it's challenge for now.00:27:59.850 –> 00:28:19.110 Joseph McElroy: I think I think it'd make a wonderful movie or play or something like that, so now his life was yeah it's got all those adventure wrestling business chief, and you know that'd be cool alright, so we have to take another break and we'll get into your book alright.00:28:19.590 –> 00:28:20.370 Annette Clapsaddle: Alright sounds great.00:30:26.700 –> 00:30:34.140 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the Gateway to the smokies podcast my guest Annette Saunooke Clapsaddle.00:30:35.400 –> 00:30:41.880 Joseph McElroy: So in that you've also written from any national publications, such as the Atlanta and literature hub and.00:30:42.270 –> 00:30:49.020 Joseph McElroy: what's your real breakthrough was their debut novel even as we breathe, which came out in the middle of covid in 2020.00:30:49.500 –> 00:31:02.370 Joseph McElroy: And NPR put it on us best bet best books list and then later won the Thomas Wolfe literary award so congratulations that's great so what inspired you to run right this wonderful now?00:31:03.210 –> 00:31:15.570 Annette Clapsaddle: So I'm a few things kind of came together again and the most significant was that I had read an article in Nashville SIS and times.00:31:16.530 –> 00:31:23.970 Annette Clapsaddle: about the role the growth park plays in World War Two, the summer of 19 and actually.00:31:24.390 –> 00:31:35.820 Annette Clapsaddle: It was that article is really that actual role and during World War Two and there was a small paragraph about the growth parks role and during that time and so.00:31:36.600 –> 00:31:50.460 Annette Clapsaddle: You know, it said that the growth part held access and diplomats and foreign nationals are prisoners of war, the summer of 1942 and, as you mentioned earlier I've lived here my entire life and I had never heard that his.00:31:50.760 –> 00:31:51.810 Joseph McElroy: motive either yeah.00:31:52.710 –> 00:31:54.060 Annette Clapsaddle: And a lot of the people.00:31:55.410 –> 00:31:56.160 Annette Clapsaddle: Who.00:31:56.400 –> 00:31:56.850 Annette Clapsaddle: You know.00:31:57.390 –> 00:32:06.120 Annette Clapsaddle: A lot of local the stories that are that's where my husband is a former history teacher they were also not familiar.00:32:06.480 –> 00:32:12.150 Annette Clapsaddle: With that history so that's enough of a mystery, and for me to dig into a little bit more.00:32:12.720 –> 00:32:22.650 Annette Clapsaddle: And so I'd also given myself a writing prompt and this is after like the first novel I couldn't get published and I just was going to start something new.00:32:23.040 –> 00:32:31.380 Annette Clapsaddle: And so I've given myself a writing prompt right as long as I possibly could and on the simplest object, I could think of.00:32:31.800 –> 00:32:48.030 Annette Clapsaddle: me some reason, I chose a bone a clean bone and I worked for a very long time in a very tiny room in the Jackson county library in Sylva North Carolina, and out of that piece and really thinking about.00:32:49.800 –> 00:33:02.160 Annette Clapsaddle: You know what we leave behind and and and how we are judged on earth and how those things are often counter counter-intuitive right and.00:33:02.940 –> 00:33:21.030 Annette Clapsaddle: I decided that I wanted to see what would happen if I took a member of a sovereign nation so county sequoia is the protagonist who lives, who leaves Cherokee to go work at the grove park in and forgets the don't know the growth part is.00:33:22.230 –> 00:33:33.510 Annette Clapsaddle: A very high-class resort so President stays there girl said, you know, instead of counting guys to work there is a very different.00:33:33.960 –> 00:33:48.510 Annette Clapsaddle: and social environment but it's also during wartime so this question of citizenship and belonging in place all becomes really relevant so and it was a really a setting driven novel.00:33:49.020 –> 00:33:55.950 Annette Clapsaddle: which seems odd to me to write you know and but it made a lot of sense and to really kind of turn up the heat.00:33:57.120 –> 00:33:57.480 Annette Clapsaddle: Like.00:33:57.810 –> 00:34:00.420 Joseph McElroy: That doesn't strike me as odd about you, I mean you.00:34:00.480 –> 00:34:01.080 Joseph McElroy: You love.00:34:01.170 –> 00:34:07.650 Joseph McElroy: The settings of the mountains, you came back to live in it, you know I think settings is actually something that is is important to you.00:34:08.250 –> 00:34:12.810 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah absolutely and daily inspired.00:34:13.830 –> 00:34:33.030 Annette Clapsaddle: By where I live, and the people of this place and in our interactions with this place, so I you know I just I think prior to that I always thought well novels are you like plot-driven or the character-driven but this setting really kind of exploded into the narrative.00:34:34.050 –> 00:34:51.180 Joseph McElroy: So it takes place in 1942 and it's interesting you deal with you know, a love story coming age story now I've you know I've just started the novel you know I just moved to Asheville but you know we move new near to the growth park in.00:34:53.190 –> 00:35:03.840 Joseph McElroy: And yeah Bob Bob was telling me about you and I got the book and I've started writing, but I had a lot of time to finish it, so I don't know all of it but Bob it says it's a masterpiece or a.00:35:06.840 –> 00:35:16.020 Joseph McElroy: History Western North Carolina and I believe he's very good at that sort of thing but it's interesting already that I'm seeing you're also dealing with issues of citizenship.00:35:16.380 –> 00:35:30.450 Joseph McElroy: Identity and racism, all the concepts that we're debating and dealing with today, was that purposeful or came about just from the characters and setting.00:35:31.440 –> 00:35:42.720 Annette Clapsaddle: In some ways, it was purposeful, and even from the earliest writing exercise thinking about the phone and he reminded me of when I worked in.00:35:43.800 –> 00:35:54.840 Annette Clapsaddle: Our chief's office at one time after graduate school as a writer, I was lucky enough to have the office right next door to a political figure.00:35:56.760 –> 00:35:57.960 Annette Clapsaddle: Because I could hear through the wall.00:36:01.530 –> 00:36:11.520 Annette Clapsaddle: Remember, one day, and he had open another local politician, the nontribal politician come in and they were discussing this.00:36:12.240 –> 00:36:25.500 Annette Clapsaddle: Expansion of airport runway that would unearth Cherokee burial sites and I remember, they were obviously at odds about what was about what.00:36:26.160 –> 00:36:37.560 Annette Clapsaddle: this would happen and the chief explained to him that it is the same as going up to the graveyard and digging up that man's grandmother.00:36:37.860 –> 00:36:53.820 Annette Clapsaddle: And I'd never heard it explained so simply, is that right that we are oftentimes people think, and as native American bones as artifacts as opposed to you know the human remains that we consider.00:36:55.020 –> 00:37:16.500 Annette Clapsaddle: Members, so I think you know early on, I was thinking about the political and racial and Aafia implications of this story, but just that and I didn't really consider that I was writing historical fiction until I was working on the marketing packet for my publisher.00:37:19.020 –> 00:37:20.100 Annette Clapsaddle: Oh, this is his story.00:37:22.950 –> 00:37:35.040 Annette Clapsaddle: But it does feel so relevant to me so many of the issues, unfortunately, are still relevant today and I wanted to use them as a lens to look at those issues that are in the news today.00:37:36.000 –> 00:37:44.790 Joseph McElroy: wow when you also wrote, both from the male and female perspective, and I think that that takes a little bit of talent, how did you nail that.00:37:45.630 –> 00:37:53.820 Annette Clapsaddle: Well yeah I often get asked about your writing from a young male perspective, and then I remind people that I taught high school for a dozen years.00:37:55.800 –> 00:37:59.370 Annette Clapsaddle: diet and have an older brother and I grew up with.00:37:59.880 –> 00:38:07.710 Annette Clapsaddle: You know male cousins I have two boys that I'm raising you to know I'm really I've been inundated.00:38:08.760 –> 00:38:09.570 Annette Clapsaddle: With a male.00:38:09.960 –> 00:38:17.190 Annette Clapsaddle: voice in perspective but, and you know also want to be respectful that I'm doing it accurately so.00:38:18.000 –> 00:38:25.410 Joseph McElroy: I think it's I think that your interaction with your students, has been a tremendous benefit for you in terms of writing and then I've seen some of the.00:38:26.190 –> 00:38:34.590 Joseph McElroy: Reference things I love the story of your student who's on a zoom call with some new Yorkers and references prep his preference pronoun is yours.00:38:37.170 –> 00:38:37.890 Annette Clapsaddle: story.00:38:39.600 –> 00:38:42.630 Annette Clapsaddle: We were very rural hospital.00:38:43.980 –> 00:38:53.850 Annette Clapsaddle: Family in the mountains and were paired with Fieldston in New York City, which some of your listeners may be familiar with a private school.00:38:55.560 –> 00:39:11.490 Annette Clapsaddle: And you know the New York kids were like automated that they gave their pronouns and in our students, this was a few years ago to were taken aback when that question came up on this thing called.00:39:14.130 –> 00:39:16.620 Annette Clapsaddle: This kid he just said, my pronouns y'all.00:39:19.980 –> 00:39:20.670 Joseph McElroy: hey good.00:39:22.530 –> 00:39:22.980 Joseph McElroy: Good.00:39:27.270 –> 00:39:29.520 Joseph McElroy: Well that's great, so I think that's.00:39:31.140 –> 00:39:35.460 Joseph McElroy: I think that says a lot about she was a great writer and as a teacher that your students are.00:39:37.590 –> 00:39:54.480 Joseph McElroy: letters are you know that are really involved and really able to you've really educated them to deal with the society, and you know and they've been helped you bring that into your writing so congratulations I think that's that is the definition of success, I think.00:39:56.010 –> 00:40:10.200 Joseph McElroy: So life is going great for you and you've been a great teacher for over a decade living your dream in the smokies with your husband who's also a teacher and your sons and your debut is a huge success.00:40:11.940 –> 00:40:17.010 Joseph McElroy: This year you've sort of turned things upside down, did you decide to retire from teaching.00:40:18.810 –> 00:40:20.730 Joseph McElroy: Writing and family and other projects.00:40:21.150 –> 00:40:24.030 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah my husband says, I can't use the word retire.00:40:25.530 –> 00:40:26.070 Joseph McElroy: Okay.00:40:26.370 –> 00:40:28.920 Annette Clapsaddle: not officially retired and no.00:40:31.110 –> 00:40:45.090 Annette Clapsaddle: It was a tough decision, I really do love teaching I love my students, and but I, you know the book came out in 2020 and since then it's been a full sprint just with and.00:40:45.900 –> 00:40:56.310 Annette Clapsaddle: publicity for the book and then it's led to other opportunity writing opportunities public speaking teaching workshops and you know I don't want.00:40:56.820 –> 00:41:10.260 Annette Clapsaddle: You know I guess it came down to a decision, and then I would have to choose one or the other, I cannot keep up the pace of full-time teaching and pursuing writing you know you get the next novel out.00:41:11.730 –> 00:41:24.030 Annette Clapsaddle: as well, and you know if you are in education or you know anyone in education, you know that the last few years have been incredibly difficult and there.00:41:24.540 –> 00:41:34.770 Annette Clapsaddle: For me, there was not an end in sight to that to that difficulty of being a public school teacher it's just kind of getting harder and harder.00:41:35.310 –> 00:41:47.340 Annette Clapsaddle: And and and you know I don't like to be pessimistic about it because I want to encourage people and but I can't do it in it yeah just couldn't do it anymore if I wanted to continue writing.00:41:48.510 –> 00:41:55.500 Annette Clapsaddle: You know, it is about time but it's also just about like brain space and energy and excuse me to put.00:41:56.880 –> 00:42:00.810 Joseph McElroy: it's a real shame that you have to be at the forefront of cultural wars.00:42:01.440 –> 00:42:05.550 Joseph McElroy: Right in school that's just not fair to the public, teachers, yes.00:42:07.680 –> 00:42:14.100 Joseph McElroy: yeah yeah and it's really a misplaced fear that somehow you're you know you're destroying our children is.00:42:14.100 –> 00:42:15.570 Annette Clapsaddle: ridiculous yeah.00:42:19.020 –> 00:42:19.800 Annette Clapsaddle: I couldn't do it.00:42:21.450 –> 00:42:27.330 Joseph McElroy: I mean the bane of my existence and people can throw darts at me and want it, but I hate homeschooling.00:42:27.840 –> 00:42:41.940 Joseph McElroy: I met too many people that are like not even high school graduates are homeschooling their kids I'm saying homeschooling to be what you know it's like yeah yeah you're going to do more damage than me, you know train teacher with that sorry I'm.00:42:42.270 –> 00:42:43.200 Annette Clapsaddle: i'm being a little political.00:42:43.440 –> 00:42:45.180 Joseph McElroy: don't generally do about this issue.00:42:45.570 –> 00:43:02.940 Joseph McElroy: yeah since I got three and a half-year-old twins that got to go through you know life your schooling I'm I am yeah I understand where you're coming from and I appreciate the work that you did, and I can also understand you know, taking the opportunity to retire from that.00:43:07.470 –> 00:43:12.570 Joseph McElroy: So we're gonna take a break now and come back and find out what you're doing next and talk a little bit about mountain bike.00:45:15.780 –> 00:45:29.940 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklyn McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies these podcasts and my guest Annette Saunooke Clapsaddle, so Annette, what's next for you as a writer you're working on a new book right Is it based on.00:45:30.960 –> 00:45:37.170 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah absolutely and I've been working on one for a little while now, but again I had to put it aside.00:45:38.100 –> 00:45:53.160 Annette Clapsaddle: For the full-time job but um yeah this next novel is contemporary was a female protagonist set in Cherokee so it's pretty close to home, I got to make sure I stay far enough back from it.00:45:54.570 –> 00:45:55.050 Annette Clapsaddle: But.00:45:57.030 –> 00:46:00.150 Annette Clapsaddle: I am fairly early in the process, but it's.00:46:01.470 –> 00:46:20.700 Annette Clapsaddle: kind of being it's inspired by some of our traditional stories it's not a retelling of those stories, but I have mine those for the values that they instill in our culture and I'm kind of overlaying it on a contemporary and political landscape and cheer up that way.00:46:22.320 –> 00:46:23.730 Annette Clapsaddle: So that's what I'm working on.00:46:24.480 –> 00:46:26.400 Joseph McElroy: Your First Non historical fiction.00:46:28.500 –> 00:46:29.460 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah exactly.00:46:31.980 –> 00:46:34.080 Annette Clapsaddle: The time he ruined may be historical.00:46:37.230 –> 00:46:40.590 Joseph McElroy: These will suck to the years of the crisis.00:46:42.900 –> 00:46:45.960 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah because in here and now back to rethink.00:46:47.010 –> 00:46:49.470 Annette Clapsaddle: Whether you know how could this plays into this.00:46:50.070 –> 00:46:51.990 Joseph McElroy: Is covid character yeah.00:46:52.260 –> 00:46:54.510 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah so I have to do a lot of.00:46:55.920 –> 00:47:02.700 Annette Clapsaddle: nonfiction writing for regional magazines and things like that and I'm a.00:47:03.810 –> 00:47:18.840 Annette Clapsaddle: An editor for the Appalachian future series and through the university press of Kentucky so stay pretty busy with different writing projects, but the main one that forces me that focus on the new novel.00:47:20.190 –> 00:47:24.630 Joseph McElroy: that's great and are you doing, are you doing how are things like workshops and.00:47:25.110 –> 00:47:26.100 Annette Clapsaddle: Yes, yes.00:47:26.430 –> 00:47:33.390 Annette Clapsaddle: cool yeah I think it's nice to be able to continue to teach and even though I'll be out of.00:47:34.770 –> 00:47:44.850 Annette Clapsaddle: A public high school right so teaching workshops actually leave Friday and for.00:47:46.050 –> 00:47:47.370 Annette Clapsaddle: LMU for.00:47:48.720 –> 00:48:01.590 Annette Clapsaddle: For the festival there I'll be teaching workshops and then I'll be teaching a full week at John C Campbell folks school in Brasstown and North Carolina starting Sunday so.00:48:01.980 –> 00:48:09.570 Joseph McElroy: That Bob's been trying to put together a literary conference here, I hope you participate in that that'd be you'd be a wonderful part of it yeah.00:48:11.010 –> 00:48:17.010 Joseph McElroy: That should be good so so I want to talk about you are my mountain biking.00:48:19.050 –> 00:48:23.040 Joseph McElroy: enthusiastic yeah, what do you like most about that sport.00:48:24.420 –> 00:48:34.800 Annette Clapsaddle: um well I like being in the middle of the woods and feeling very isolated from everything but also going super fast.00:48:39.720 –> 00:48:53.610 Annette Clapsaddle: superfast downhill and it's I think it's because it is contradictory to how I normally am you know planner and I'm fairly cautious and.00:48:55.050 –> 00:48:58.410 Annette Clapsaddle: This is this forces me out of that comfort zone.00:48:59.790 –> 00:49:03.780 Annette Clapsaddle: And I mean I could talk for days about all the things I love about it, I just started.00:49:04.740 –> 00:49:21.510 Annette Clapsaddle: writing about five years ago and, and you know, first and foremost, for even for my health I'm a former athlete I used to play basketball, but my knees can't take that anymore I lost about 60 pounds when I started mountain biking.00:49:24.990 –> 00:49:25.530 Joseph McElroy: I have a.00:49:25.560 –> 00:49:29.700 Joseph McElroy: three-and-a-half-year-old son named Henry that's challenging you to a race right now.00:49:30.210 –> 00:49:32.070 Annette Clapsaddle: oh three.00:49:33.510 –> 00:49:37.800 Annette Clapsaddle: My student this semester, it was on my bike and he was running.00:49:39.660 –> 00:49:41.850 Annette Clapsaddle: He thought he could beat me that didn't happen.00:49:46.770 –> 00:49:48.360 Joseph McElroy: He loves to go fast.00:49:49.980 –> 00:49:52.950 Joseph McElroy: So, what are your favorite local or regional trails.00:49:53.520 –> 00:50:01.260 Annette Clapsaddle: And what I consider my home trail is fire mountain trail system and Cherokee and it's really kind of.00:50:01.950 –> 00:50:20.820 Annette Clapsaddle: When that trail system, open and I started learning more about mountain biking in general, so it's just a few minutes from my house I get there, myself and I are Sali and near Bryson city and the Fontana area I do a lot of writing out there.00:50:23.460 –> 00:50:37.320 Annette Clapsaddle: And oh gosh there's Dupont and regard, and you know we're really lucky to have so many trails around here and yeah and you know my favorite ones, or maybe not the ones that are more.00:50:39.750 –> 00:50:46.200 Joseph McElroy: that's why, but if you try out some of the new ones up like the new pipe parking chest up the mountain and they would challenge you just.00:50:46.230 –> 00:50:53.040 Annette Clapsaddle: Barely I mean so all of these there yeah there are lots of new places it seems like in the last year and a half.00:50:53.430 –> 00:50:59.040 Annette Clapsaddle: And so, all these places are kind of on my list I'm excited to have a little more flexibility in my schedule.00:50:59.340 –> 00:51:13.590 Annette Clapsaddle: And he had to make some of those day trips and hopefully out with some of my riding buddies may be to go check them out there's a and a group of predominantly ladies that I ride with we like to check out new trails.00:51:14.580 –> 00:51:16.890 Joseph McElroy: cool do you have your son's right as well?00:51:17.550 –> 00:51:19.350 Annette Clapsaddle: They do, and they.00:51:20.550 –> 00:51:28.110 Annette Clapsaddle: know the ride, and you know for a while, then they'll get interested in something else, but they both had bikes so.00:51:29.130 –> 00:51:34.890 Annette Clapsaddle: They don't always go on trails with me and that they're all over our property.00:51:36.630 –> 00:51:39.720 Annette Clapsaddle: at nine and 13 Charlie and Ross00:51:40.170 –> 00:51:42.210 Joseph McElroy: All right, almost teenage.00:51:46.050 –> 00:52:03.120 Joseph McElroy: There you go so what's good, and you, is there any is there, you know, one of the things I'd like to ask is a recommendation for a place to eat for people listening to the show for coming to your part of the country out in the cloud qualified and boundary the Cherokee reservation.00:52:03.870 –> 00:52:05.670 Annette Clapsaddle: All right, and.00:52:07.110 –> 00:52:08.730 Annette Clapsaddle: I feel like I'm sitting on the spot here.00:52:08.940 –> 00:52:10.050 I know I know.00:52:12.690 –> 00:52:17.190 Annette Clapsaddle: I don't know what this one just popped into my head and we're not talking like gourmet food, but.00:52:18.870 –> 00:52:19.170 Joseph McElroy: I think.00:52:19.230 –> 00:52:33.390 Annette Clapsaddle: The people that joy that's all yes that's a sunflower is like a sandwich shop not like a sandwich shop, it is isn't it shop and near the entrance to the great smoky mountain National Park in the snake village area sassy sunflowers a very.00:52:34.950 –> 00:52:40.680 Annette Clapsaddle: Great sandwich place and then I have to say, if you want, like the quintessential.00:52:42.450 –> 00:52:52.470 Annette Clapsaddle: Country Buffet, that has been around since the beginning of time, you have to go to grandma's kitchen and get pie for dessert you got to get high.00:52:52.980 –> 00:52:54.960 Joseph McElroy: Five you got to get a pie yeah.00:52:56.400 –> 00:53:04.680 Joseph McElroy: cool fabulous well this now, we gotta shout outs, you want to mention how people get in contact with you find out more about your book that sort of stuff.00:53:05.190 –> 00:53:12.060 Annette Clapsaddle: So I have a website it's a new asaunookeclapsaddle.com and luckily I have one of.00:53:13.200 –> 00:53:25.260 Annette Clapsaddle: The most unusual names, so you can pretty easily find me on Google search but I'll be updating that website and the coming weeks, speaking of students.00:53:25.560 –> 00:53:31.950 Annette Clapsaddle: And that's that website was developed by a former student of mine, so I gotta get to updating it with.00:53:32.730 –> 00:53:50.760 Annette Clapsaddle: Events going on I'll be busy all summer with festivals and workshops and things like that and also I'm on Facebook and on Instagram and I just use my name I don't do anything special so Twitter also so just it's Annette Saunooke Clapsaddle easy to find.00:53:51.390 –> 00:54:04.440 Joseph McElroy: cool well Thank you so much for being on the show today it's been a wonderful conversation I'm gonna look forward to finishing your book, especially sits in it's in the North Asheville area where I just moved to find out a little bit about the history of that area.00:54:05.700 –> 00:54:12.720 Joseph McElroy: yeah glad to be too, and hopefully we will continue having conversations, and now have you have your Conference at the Meadowlark00:54:13.530 –> 00:54:14.040 yeah.00:54:15.360 –> 00:54:17.610 Annette Clapsaddle: Maybe like doing you love to do that cool.00:54:18.090 –> 00:54:33.180 Joseph McElroy: So this podcast is the gateway to the smokies it's live-streamed on facebook.com/gatewaytothesmokiespodcasts as well as on talkradio.NYC, which is a network of live podcasts.00:54:34.800 –> 00:54:43.590 Joseph McElroy: And I recommend you take a chance to look at that network there are a lot of great podcasts to listen to live, which I find to be a very dynamic format.00:54:44.430 –> 00:55:00.900 Joseph McElroy: And I think interesting if you want to be involved in conversations that seem real and they range from small business self-help to pet care to any number of things and it's I think it's a wonderful network to become aware of and join in.00:55:02.130 –> 00:55:08.160 Joseph McElroy: I also have another podcast and it's never called wise content creates wealth, I have a marketing company that specializes in.00:55:08.820 –> 00:55:28.110 Joseph McElroy: content and memorable tourism experiences for travel and I talked about that quite a bit on wise content create wealth so and that's on Fridays from noon until one, and this podcast gateway to the smokies every week Tuesdays from six to seven on this network.00:55:29.130 –> 00:55:39.690 Joseph McElroy: And I hope you will join me again next week for another great guest, and another great conversation, thank you very much it's been nice having you here.00:55:40.680 –> 00:55:44.460 Annette Clapsaddle: yeah, thank you for having me really enjoy it you're welcome.

High Inflation Continues To Impact Sector, Including Food Banks As inflationary pressures keep year-over-year price increases high, food banks see both an increase in demand and a shortage of supply. Food pantries across the country are dealing both with an increase in demand due to broader consumer-facing prices, as well as a harder time keeping up with supply because of the same price increases. The Chronicle of Philanthropy reports that “Some of Feeding America's food pantry partners have closed because of dwindling donations and higher costs for receiving and delivering food. Others have less food on their shelves even though they have higher demand.” The article goes on to highlight the vital importance that food banks serve and that folks who need the assistance they provide might be more diverse than the broader public realizes. Read more ➝   Summary Nonprofits on Both Sides of Abortion Issue See Increase in Donations | The Chronicle of Philanthropy  Independent Sector Issues Statement on Mass Shooting in Buffalo The Guggenheim Museum, Which Long Resisted Calls to Drop the Sackler Name, Has Finally Quietly Removed It | Artnet News HFPA Considers Selling Assets, Dropping Nonprofit Status | Yahoo Entertainment Oregon nonprofit that turns trash into art lands permanent display at the Smithsonian | KGW.com      Transcript [00:00:00] This week on the nonprofit newsfeed, we're talking about high inflation and how it's having impacts on food banks, as well as a bevy of other social impact issues. Nick, how is. [00:00:12] It's going good, George. [00:00:13] it's just trying to, always just trying to keep up last week was a little weird from the financial side. I'm glad we're not a financial podcast, but a few things went sideways and you know, I think that comes back to the larger issue of inflation going on. [00:00:27] That is. Great segue into our first story that is talking about some of those broader trends, economic trends that you were talking about. Namely inflation and our lead story comes from the Chronicle philanthropy, which is supporting that hi Felician is continuing to impact many nonprofits, but food banks in particular. [00:00:50] And it turns out that many food banks across the United States are being. From both directions, essentially, you have more people needing food assistance because of higher food prices and food banks, having trouble keeping up with that higher demand because of higher food and supply chain issues. So. [00:01:14] Yeah, lots of food banks are feeling the pinch, both with supply and demand, kind of impacting their ability to, to provide for, for folks. The article goes on to state that some of feeding America's food pantry partners have closed because of dwindling donations and higher costs for receiving and delivering food. [00:01:34] Others have less food on their shelves, even though they have higher demand. So you kind of have the economics of this. Hitting where Hertz in both directions. And unfortunately the inflation numbers came out and it slowed marginally with the most recent data. But inflation continues to be a really serious problem heading in this case, food pantries, where it hurts. [00:01:56] I think it's important to note that the general consumer price index CPI is it's not accurate for everyone. It is not inclusive of what might be hitting. Some people that are maybe more dependent on travel by car or at the grocery store for different types of materials. But the high-level here. [00:02:19] Compared to last year at this time, we're about 50% down and where we have received and past feral food donations, and about 20% down from food drives in our collection of food from the grocery store, says the executive director, Tyra Jackson there. And it's it. It's tough. It is tough because you're also talking about donations that may have come and picked up by truck by car. [00:02:43] And there are a few donations being. In addition to people needing it more. So, you know, you're going to see this certainly at food, food pantries among others, but something that we really wanted to pull out as a, as a major, a major narrative as only gonna continue as as inflation and gas prices continue to, to pinch organizations that serve the most vulnerable in our. [00:03:06] Yeah, George, I think that's a great analysis. And just as an aside, I was talking with a colleague at our company who she and her partner volunteered at a food bank down in the Nashville area. And. When they were volunteering there, they found out that the food bank was actually closing two weeks later and that all of those resources were disappearing. [00:03:28] So this is very real. This is being felt tangibly by a lot of people. Unfortunately, the most vulnerable people and just calling out to an article. Or featured on this podcast almost a year ago now, but when you look at the statistics of folks on food stamps or folks needing food assistance, it is much more broad and diverse than I think a lot of Americans realize, and that food insecurity is a much bigger and. [00:04:00] Yeah, I'm a much bigger problem than I think most people realize. So it's something we'll continue to follow. [00:04:06] Great. Should we move into our summer yard? Yeah. [00:04:10] Let's do it. Our first article from the summary comes again from the Chronicle of philanthropy. And this is that nonprofits on both sides of the abortion issue are seeing an increase in donations. This was something that we predicted. It's not that hard, a prediction to make. Something we've talked about would happen a couple of weeks ago, of course, with the draft Supreme court decision propelling Roe vs. [00:04:37] Wade. And at this point How the Supreme court is poised to strike that down, back into the forefront of the narrative here. And there are so many organizations on both sides of this issue, local organizations, national organizations, and this is now the most important or most salient, I should say, policy debate in America right now. [00:05:02] So no surprise that non-profits are seeing an increase in donations. It will be interesting to see. How long this lasts. We often talk about how giving because of various news events and attention to these issues have very short life cycles. We talked about donations to Afghanistan, which lasted, everyone was talking about Afghanistan for about 10 days and then nothing. [00:05:30] Right. So it'd be interesting to see here. Especially as it relates to broader kind of political narratives in the United States. The one difference with this is that that decision from the Supreme court has actually not been officially dropped down yet. It's expected to be released in June. [00:05:48] So that, that news cycle we'll get another bump in June when it eventually does drop. But what's your take on the story? [00:05:55] Yeah, it's kind of hard because we're still just sort of pulling in this article at anecdotal evidence and narratives, large narratives like planned parenthood, Federation of America, talking about how. , spokesperson, they're saying they got 70,000, 70,000 new supporters that had signed on with the organization either as donors or volunteers and had received tens of thousands of new one-time gifts. [00:06:21] And the thinking is that if Roe is overturned, the organization's base of supporters are only going to continue to grow and counter narratives there. Pro-life across America, probably of. Groups has not seen a rise in donations since the week, but other smaller ones have said, there's a couple extra thousand here or there coming in. [00:06:40] So still, , I, I, I'm hesitant to draw a macro narratives other than to say, there's going to be an increase amount of volume here. I think this is the first sort of earthquake social earthquake. This announcement ripples are starting to be felt, but I think the big ones still to come. Potential actual decision would be landing. [00:07:01] That would be the summer. Right? Nick, you know, I, I don't know why July is in my mind, but [00:07:05] Yeah, I think end of June a lot has something to do with the docket. Yeah, [00:07:11] so we'll see. But within the next one to two months, general, [00:07:16] I would say from a strategy standpoint, this was the first press it, but the, the wave of. News and attention is going to be very, very intense. And as all things intense, it will burn brightly and briefly, unfortunately, and then come down to that steady drum beat. So you are an organization that is near or adjacent to this topic. [00:07:38] I would be very much prepared for how you pull in. Monthly sustaining donors in that moment of emotion when emotions are at its peak, because the work is going to take quite some time and it's not a one and done it is something that should it should be part of a, a longer term movement that is is going to take a lot of resources. [00:08:01] Absolutely. That's a great framing. I for one I'm done with earthquakes for, for another decade, no more society altering earthquakes. But unfortunately we have another one. To talk about. And we're framing this around a press release from independent sector, which is a national membership organization that brings together nonprofits and foundations and corporate giving partners. [00:08:28] But they put out a press release, acknowledging the violence in Buffalo over the weekend. That being that over the weekend, a white supremacist went into a supermarket in Buffalo, New York shot. 13 people, 11 of whom were black and 10 of whom died. This was an over act of racism and white supremacy was very, very clear. [00:08:52] And We see the nonprofit community responding here. I don't really know. What more to what non-profits can can do about this. This is, this is hard, a hard, very hard problem to solve. And of course, there's lots of organizations that work in this space, the Southern poverty law center and civil rights organizations that of course over the past couple of days have been really highlighting how national political discourses lending itself to this, these far right ideologies and extremist ideologies. [00:09:25] But Yeah, just unfortunately, and another tragic day in a long string of mass shootings that we experienced in this country. [00:09:32] We saw the narrative, certainly of gun rights and organizations like our town saying reasonable things. Like, I dunno, maybe we shouldn't allow citizens to run around with assault rifles , these high capacity magazines and the ability to, to do that much damage in that period of time, there was another narrative around. [00:09:51] How this was actually streamed on Twitch, which can lead to copycats and narratives that this shooter was partially inspired by Christ church shooting, which was also incredibly terrible, but this sort of mimicry of when people see it is a, a dog whistle and just very dark motivation for, for certain people that clearly need help. [00:10:14] Like this is somebody who needs. Folks that are, , drawn to this type of thought, unfortunately, and this type of action then there's a new piece that seemed to be coming out, which I I'm starting to see nonprofits touch on, which is the narrative around replacement theory. And I'm not going to go into it in so much as, you know, giving it any sort of, even the word theory there it is. [00:10:39] It is a white supremacist fever dream, and I don't curse on this podcast, but I would, if I could, because it's it's a narrative that is unfortunately use because it's pulled into media narratives and reiterated on shows like Tucker Carlson, but it has a very, very dark and dangerous, extreme narrative to it. [00:11:02] And so there may be opportunities for if this does touch on a non-profits work in association with. You know, immigration, anything that supports black or brown people and their rights in this country to, take a look at it and see where your voice on it could, could lend a larger and more clarifying narratives on it. [00:11:25] Absolutely George. I couldn't agree more. And quite frankly, I want to see tech companies take a far more aggressive stance on combating this quite frankly. It's unacceptable. The video was five streamed and is just it's. So you type it into Google. It's the first thing you see that is unacceptable. And I would love to see greater efforts behalf of big tech to work with nonprofits and civil society to, to attempt to mitigate this. [00:11:58] Because quite frankly, it's the pervasiveness of these kind of fringe ideas. And I know that's a whole other thing, but I think that there can be a lot more done. And I think that nonprofits and civil society should be invited to play a role in. [00:12:13] Yeah. I don't know what the right answer is. I get worried sometimes about. The narratives that take hold and whether or not it's used as an excuse to go after big tech. The truth is Twitch took that down within two minutes, which is a heck of a lot more impressive in terms of a timeframe than what Facebook did. [00:12:32] A company, 10 X its size with Facebook live. The truth is the ability to publish on the web. Can't be fully blocked. And by saying like, if only it was taken down, what in thirties. If only it was taken down in 10 seconds, I just don't understand the channeling of the social solution. Can't be a faster form of censorship. [00:12:56] Would've stopped this. I'm not, I'm not buying that as a solution, giving that child that 18 year old, maybe not access to a assault rifle. Would be maybe where I start followed by again, pointing toward being very careful when someone's consuming certain types of content in an extreme environment. And also this individual was given access to body armor. [00:13:26] And so the whole narrative of good guy with a gun didn't matter because this person was actually shot at. And it didn't matter because we have turned extremists into super soldiers with over the counter shit. You can get it well, So I, I'm sorry, I'm not buying if only Twitch took it down and got Dan two minutes, I'm not, I'm not buying that sale. [00:13:45] That's fair. That's a fair, that's a fair argument. I agree with you the much more. Proactive way of dealing with this is a gun laws in New York actually has this red flag gun law that should have prevented the shooter from accessing this firearm. And for whatever reason, [00:14:02] Yeah, I haven't seen the full near, I mean, just, I haven't seen the full narrative, but you know, there's more, there's more guns and people in this country. So I don't know. [00:14:10] I agree. Our thoughts are with the families and everyone affected by, by this fine. Our next story comes from news.art net.com. And this is about the Guggenheim museum, which has long resisted calls to drop the Sackler name, the Sackler family, being the family owners of the Purdue pharma corporation has finally quietly removed the Sackler name from. From the building, the Guggenheim has come under lots of criticism and there's been sit in protests at the museum and attempt to bring to light how this family's money is, is as you know. [00:14:53] highlighted throughout this museum as a donor. [00:14:56] And yeah, George authored this to you. I think I have. Complicated FOBTs here and being a new Yorker, we're both new Yorkers. You walk through any museum, the Guggenheim, the met every exhibit is a who's who of corporate power in America, half the ma is named after the Koch brothers. You know? So it's yeah, I wonder what your take is on this. [00:15:21] It's kind of dovetails a bit also with when we were talking about how. Russian oligarchs were giving in the west to legitimize and cause wash disreputable actions and reputation, and to build themselves up, the nonprofit industry does offer this sort of pathway to respectability at a price. And the question is. [00:15:48] Is it appropriately priced? Should that be for sale? I think this is a big move because clearly the Sackler name like has donated quite a bit to, to the arts and the arts are incredibly important, but maybe not as important as the fact that what they have done to. Drug addiction. And this country is probably unparalleled from other companies in terms of it's devastation. [00:16:20] And , maybe you don't give them the social acceptance pass, but hopefully this is something that reverberates out there that it's also hard. If you're an art, I try to put on the other side of it, like there's somebody on the fundraising team of a struggling museum trying to preserve. [00:16:37] You know, history and legacy of fill in the blank type of art that already struggles. And to say like, oh, you're not allowed to take, you know, money from somebody who that happened to make it from oil from this. So like, you know, where do you draw the line? I mean, I draw the line there, the Sacklers, but you know, it is, it makes, it makes for an interesting conversation, I think in philanthropic communities and maybe even. [00:17:02] Just to bring it back to a listener right now you might want to have with, you know, your board and your supporters being like, you know, who would we not take money from if we did Y what would we do? You know, I think there's a lot of folks that take it and be like, oh, you can make a donation, but sorry, we can't name you. [00:17:18] Like, what did you just do? They're like, all right, we're, we're playing this weird sort of moral shell game. [00:17:25] Yeah, I think that's as an interesting analysis and to your point, I would not want to be the fundraiser I'm responsible for that, but definitely something to talk about. Within your organization. Another organization that's been doing a lot of talking within itself is the Hollywood foreign press association, which you may know as the obscure organization that is responsible for hosting and promoting the golden Globes in Hollywood. [00:17:55] So the Hollywood foreign press has been criticized pretty substantially in the past couple of years for. And I think rightly so and incredible lack of diversity kind of opaque voting processes. And as it turns out this organization, which is a nonprofit actually is reincorporating itself as essentially a business they're selling off assets, they're going to drop their nonprofit status and attempt to boost the golden Globes As a ceremony, I guess. [00:18:29] I'm not as well versed in pop culture as nearly anyone, but it's kind of an interesting move. [00:18:38] Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was just funny that it didn't even Dawn on me that the Hollywood foreign press association was a nonprofit. There are a lot of non-profits out there operating for, for better or worse or for interesting. And I'm always curious when there's a transition, either from a non-profit to for-profit for-profit to nonprofit. [00:18:57] I tend to see this a lot less, the, the move. And I just curious to watch what the net effect is. If anything interesting comes of it, you know, we'll bring it up, but you know, good luck. Sorry. You're leading the team. Am I. [00:19:12] I. [00:19:13] don't know if it gets us. Ricky Jervais is one more year of cringe-worthy. Self-loathing Hollywood criticism all sign up for that highlight reel. [00:19:24] Yeah. As long as, you know, I feel maybe touch better that any profit they happen to be making off of that particular spectacle isn't tax tax subsidized [00:19:34] Hmm. [00:19:35] touch better. [00:19:35] There you go. All right. How about a feel-good story, George? [00:19:39] Sounds perfect. [00:19:41] All right. This is from a local NBC affiliate. K G w. Dot com out of Oregon and it talks about an Oregon nonprofit that's on a mission to bring awareness to plastic pollution by turning trash into treasure and has landed a permanent display at the Smithsonian museum of natural history in a. [00:20:04] Washington DC. And essentially they've processed 37,000 tons of plastic from Oregon's beaches. And they've created 87 works of art and the art as looking at some of the pictures kind of like wide ranging implications. But the, or vision it's a wide vision. But it seems to me that you're keeping trash out of the ocean and creating something beautiful. [00:20:31] Sounds like a winning company. [00:20:33] I look at this just incredibly creative to take the exact problem that is destroying sea life and turn it into incredible works of art, which then forced people to, to see this. And, you know, there's this beautiful picture of a turtle created by all of the plastic junk and it just hits you so tangibly to see something at one striking beautiful something you'd associate with nature, but then realize that that that is exactly. [00:21:03] These animals are consuming in the wild increasing amounts of plastic, which have a devastating, devastating impact on ecosystem could be ideas also, as you work on various issues of how do I take the thing that is the biggest threat and turn it into the medium of awareness. And there's something beautiful about this. [00:21:24] I love it. Thanks George. [00:21:27] Thanks Nick.  

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Do you ever feel like you're drowning in a sea of competition?    The internet is a noisy, crowded space and the fact of the matter is, if you don't stand out - if you don't learn how to “stop the scroll” - that's when you get skipped over or end up potentially losing out when it comes to pricing.    In business, it is essential that you learn how to innovate and differentiate yourself from your competitors. You're not like anyone else, and your customers need to see that.    In today's post, I'm helping you uncover ways to attract attention by embracing your uniqueness throughout the full arc of your buyer's journey.    Read on and be sure to grab a pen and paper. This is a topic you'll want to spend some quality time brainstorming on. You weren't made to fit in - you were born to stand out.    As a child, you were taught to fit in - in school and in your family. You were trained to fit in within the social structure of your peers. We grow up with the Goldilocks syndrome: we want to be not too tall, not too short, not too fat, not too thin, not too loud, not too quiet… we want to be just right.    But these “survival strategies” you learned growing up need to be unlearned now that you're a business owner. Because if you are trying to fit in with everyone else around you in your business, you're going to get lost in the crowd of competition.    so much so that you look like everyone else on the internet, then when someone comes across your social media post, that is supposed to garner attention and attraction and curiosity so that they engage with you and connect with you and potentially become customers. Well, if you look like everyone else, then no, one's gonna stop their scroll to even find out more about you. So the real key here is to be yourself, no matter how weird or strange or funky that may be, because that differentiator that unique part of you, especially if you're a personal brand business is the piece that's going to stand out to others and peak their curiosity in a way that makes them want to learn more. And your business needs to stand out as well. So if you're using reels or tos to gain attention, and you're going to the trending audio, because that's an easier way to get found. And you're trying to work with the algorithm. Yes, I applaud you. Well, you can't just make a realtor TikTok that looks like a everyone. Else's take the trending audio, use that to your advantage and come up with something unique and fun. And I find that the people who are having the most fun in their business    And having the most fun with social media are the ones who are able to stand out online. So the questions you need to ask yourself are, can you stop? The scroll is what you're doing in your business. Stop the scroll worthy and what can you off fur? How can you innovate and show value in a way that makes you different from your competition? Because when you show up like everyone else, you drown in a sea of competition, and that's when you start to fight and potentially lose on price. And if you're ready to differentiate yourself, then you need to start asking what makes you attractive? What value do you offer in the marketplace? That's different or better than your competition? How noticeable is your marketing? What do people think and say, when they see your message, what makes you different? What makes you unique? What makes you memorable? What makes your customers want to hit that? Share button and spread the word? And why do your customers return time after time?    What is the perceived value of differentiation that you offer that they keep coming back for? And if you're unsure what that is, then just ask your customers, call them up, take them to lunch, figure out a way to connect with them and ask them why they continue to work with you. What is it about where working with you that they love the most? When you're trying to stand out to gain attention, you may use different strategies than when you're trying to stand out to differentiate yourself in the marketplace and have the customer continue working with you. For example, to gain attention, you may focus on a pop of color. So we hosted our live event, uh, last week or two weeks ago in Charlotte. And there was one girl in the room wearing a pink blazer and she stood out. She became memorable. When I used to go to networking events in New York city, I would always wear a red hat.    And I became known to many people as that, that girl in the red hat and someone people wanted to meet because I had a look about me. I had a, a style that set me apart from everyone else. I can't tell you how many networking events I went to, where people would follow up with that girl in the red hat. Eventually they got to know me and you know, do business with me or refer me to others. But it all started because of something that stood out, it all started because I didn't look like every single other person in the room who was dressed in all black. And yes, most new Yorkers dressed in all black. I've had to really do a closet makeover since moving to the south. So you can use a pop of color or other tools, strategies to gain a, but once you gain the attention, you need to have something that differentiates you even further, that sets you apart from your competition, even more where you are offering value, that's better or different from everyone else they can work with.    And you can look at various aspects of your business to determine where exactly you can fit in these differentiators. For example, take service. How good is your service and service is what happens after they buy service is what happens after the sale. So how quickly do you follow up? You have an onboarding process to get your client onboarded with you. Do you have something that's easy and smooth or is it cumbersome and difficult? What does that look like? And how does it meet and exceed keyword being exceed your customer's expectations? Okay.    Standing out at every stage of your buyer's journey   Becoming unforgettable and your customers' one-and-only is not just about the initial attraction/acquisition. It's important to look at every stage of your buyer's journey and find ways to differentiate yourself throughout.    I like to break up the buyer's journey into three easy to remember parts:   Before the Sale This stage is all about marketing, attraction, engagement, and connection.    During the Sale This stage is your online intake, your discovery call, your proposal, and your follow-up.    After the Sale This stage is everything that comes after they agree to buy: your delivery, the service you provide, how you keep in touch and foster the relationship, and how you gain testimonials and referrals.    When looking at each stage of the buyer's journey, find ways that you can differentiate yourself. In each of these phases, consider what sets you apart from the competition. Incorporate your unique self and your unique business into the value you provide. Not only will this help you get seen and noticed in a crowded marketplace, but it will ultimately lead to far more profit in your business. People gladly pay more to have their needs met in ways no one else can.    Wondering how you can incorporate all of this into your sales process? This is something I work with my clients on both individually and in my mastermind group and retreats that I host. If you'd like to dig into how you can become truly outstanding in your business by standing out from your competitors, DM me over on Instagram and let's chat. I know I've given you a lot to think about and journal on here today, but I'm always here to support you!   Improving your differentiation factor is work worth doing.    Are you currently doing anything specific to intentionally stand out? I'd love to hear about it!

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Interview: Boz talks to Heather Gilbert about training and working as a lighting designer, the privilege of training in the same place you want to work, Carnegie Mellon, John Bridges, John Culbert, Theatre Communications Group, the NEA, Topdog/Underdog, Stacy Caballero, Keith Parham, analytical geometry, the alchemy of passions that compose lighting design, Trinity University,  Kendra Thulin, David Swayze, Manifest Arts Festival, The Big Funk, Steppenwolf, Suzan Lori Parks, Don Cheadle, Jeffrey Wright, Mos Def, storefront theatre, Buried Child, Everyman, The Libertine, Bar San Miguel, David Cromer, Miracle on 34th Street starring Tracy Letts, The Hypocrites, Sean Graney, The Adding Machine, Our Town, the magic of good artistic partnerships, Sam Rockwell, Sheldon Patinkin, Next to Normal at Writers Theatre, The Band's Visit on Broadway, Come Back Little Sheba at The Huntington,  Michael Halberstam, Adam Rapp's The Sound Inside at Williamstown , Studio 54, Franco Colavecchia, Nan Cibula, Bug by Tracy Letts, not apologizing, being process-oriented vs. product-oriented, Macbeth at the NY Shakespeare Festival, Angela Bassett, Alec Baldwin, Zach Braff, Liev Schreiber, Michael C. Hall, and Carrie Coon.FULL TRANSCRIPT (unedited): Speaker 1 (0s): I'm Jen Bosworth and I'm Gina Polizzi. We went to theater school together. We survived it, but we didn't quite understand it. 20 years later, we're digging deep talking to our guests about their experiences and trying to make sense of it all. We survived theater school and you will too. Are we famous? Okay. Hello. Thank you so much for joining me. My Speaker 2 (32s): God. I'm so Speaker 1 (33s): Excited about it. So the first thing we always say is, congratulations, Heather Gilbert, you survived theater school. I did. I did. Okay. And you really survived it with, with a flourish. I would say you're kind of fancy and a big deal Speaker 2 (52s): Is a lighting designer ever really a big deal Speaker 1 (55s): In my view. So we have a lot, the thing that I love about reading about you, and also I know you teach and you're at, but is that there is a, I would say you're a master of your craft based on what I would say that based on what I've read about you and what I know about you and your successes, and also your trajectory during school. And post-school like, if there's a master of a lighting designer, crap, you've you're, you're it. So thank you. Yeah. It's amazing to lo to, to read about you. So one of the things and people also post what you can, for me, I can tell when someone is a bad-ass at what they do, because they don't actually have to promote themselves that other people around them will post till they'll say, oh my gosh, congratulations. So that is a sign that you're a bad ass is that other people are like, I'm shouting out your name without you having, you know what I mean? Like you don't do a lot of self-promotion, Speaker 2 (1m 60s): I'm terrible at it actually, Speaker 1 (2m 1s): Which is, which is amazing that you, that you're able to anyway, other people sing your praises, which I think is like really what we all want as artists, you know? So, yeah. So, okay. So why don't you tell me like how you ended up at the theater school, where you're from, like how that went down? Speaker 2 (2m 19s): So I I'm from I'm from Michigan. I'm also from Texas. I mostly grew up in Texas. Like the important years were there and I was working after, so I went to the theater school for grad school during this super brief period of time when there was a grad degree in design, I was the first lighting designer. I came in with someone else who only lasted the first quarter. He was like super unhappy. He kind of made me, I kind of glommed on to that. And I was like, oh, are we unhappy? I'll be unhappy. I, this Speaker 1 (2m 46s): Complained about everything. Speaker 2 (2m 48s): And then he, he left after first quarter and then it was awesome because they gave me all the things that he was supposed to do. But when I came in, I wasn't, I wasn't interested in the program. If I was going to be the very first person without a cohort, a word we did not use in 1994, there was no cohort. No, we just had classmates. Right. And yeah, he, so he, so, but I knew about him and then he ended up not finishing the program. So I was actually the first lighting master's lighting student since they had left the Goodman. Speaker 1 (3m 19s): Great. Speaker 2 (3m 20s): Yeah. And I had, so I'd been working in Houston doing an internship and Kevin Rigdon, who was the, at the time the resident designer at Steppenwolf had come down and did a show production of our town, which ultimately became a very important part of my life, my adult life in my own career. And so he came down and did our town with Jose Cantero directing. There was this huge thing. And I thought Kevin was great. I thought he was funny. And I loved his work and I was really interested in it. And he was adjunct at the theater school. And he actually told me not to, he was like, don't come I'm adjuncts. And they're just starting this master's program. You kind of want to find a place that's that's has more stuff going on. And then when I decided to apply to grad school the next year, for sure, I was looking at different places and somebody gave me the advice that you should really look at the people who design the team, the design work of the people that you're going to study with, because that's what they're going to teach you. Right. Great, Speaker 1 (4m 17s): Great advice. Speaker 2 (4m 18s): It was, it was really great advice. And the other was to look at the market, right? Like look for a market that you would want to be in. Like, you can get an amazing degree in Idaho. There's actually really good programs there, but the market's not there. And I'll tell ya. I did not realize until I was a college professor. This is so like blind of like the blindness to your privilege. Right. I did not understand the benefits I had in Chicago from going to school in Chicago until I watched my students graduating into it. That's when I realized what I could do for them. And I realized what my professors did for me. Speaker 1 (4m 54s): So interesting. I mean, I think, I think we don't, we don't ever, I don't know anyone that's really hipped. Maybe kids nowadays are young adults are really hip to it, but like, yeah. I mean, I didn't think of thinking of like, okay, well what, what is the sort of the place where I'm landing and who are my connections there? But I am learning now at 46 in Los Angeles that the people that I'm really connected to here in the industry are all from Chicago. Mostly a lot of them are from the theater school. It's crazy. Speaker 2 (5m 25s): It's so interesting. I, it's funny. I've been listening to your podcasts and what I love is like, I feel like it's the best Facebook ever. It's like, so, cause I'm like, oh, listen to all these hour long interviews with people, all due respect to someone who might forgotten existed. Right. You know, like I tumbled down the whole like conversation about the religion. And I was like, oh my God, I forgot all about that. I knew I knew those people. Right. It's just not my life anymore. Right. Speaker 1 (5m 49s): I mean, I I'm. Yeah. I'm also shocked. Like we have people on that, like remember us that I have no recollection of having with. And I think I always talked it up to excessive drinking and dirt back in my day. But like, I think it's just like, that's not our life anymore. Right. We're in a different time, different lifetimes. Speaker 2 (6m 10s): I took it. There's like three levels of people there's like from school. It's like the people that I still know and have to remind myself, I went to school with like, that's the connection. I there's the people that I, that I have no idea what happened to, so I love when they're on your podcast and then there's the people who are famous. So I think that I know what they're doing. Like I have a feeling, I feel like I know what Judy is up to, but I don't know what she's up to. I just know, Speaker 1 (6m 33s): Right. That she works all the time. Then we went to school with her. Right, right. It's so funny. It's, it's a such a wild thing. Okay. So you were like, I'm going to go, Speaker 2 (6m 42s): I'm going to go to grad school. And I looked at Chicago, I looked at DePaul because I really liked Kevin. And then I also looked, I was looking really heavily at Carnegie Mellon and, and he went to, I went to one of those. It's funny. I listen to you guys talk about it with the actors. But I went to one of those, like Roundup audition, interview things in Houston. And I interviewed with both schools at the same time. And Carnegie Mellon was like, well, we've been teaching this class for 20 years. It's a great class. And we've been doing this other thing for 20 years and it's awesome. And I was like, oh my God, you're so boring. And the program is actually massive and huge and revitalized now. But I think at that moment in time, it was just not, they were had a lot of faculty had been there. And then I went to the DePaul one and I talked to John Bridges. I was like, I offer you Chicago. Like I offer you the energy of John Bridges and Chicago. And I was like, oh, this is so much more interesting to me. Yeah. You know? And then I got lucky because what I didn't know is that John Colbert is like, I call him the Clark Kent of lighting design, because he seems super mild-mannered. And he's like Superman, that guy is a genius And a master teacher. And so the fact that I got to study with him for three years and the part of it was him creating curriculum that he felt I needed, even when, and I have these moments with my students now where I'm like, this is what you need to do. And they're like, I don't think that's what I think I would do better. I think this is what I need to study. And John would be like, yeah, you need that other thing. You know, I actually, years after school, a couple of years later, I applied for a, there was a, it's funny, it's funded by the NDA. So you can't call it a, it can't be a grant or fellowship. It just has to be like a program that you're on. But it was one where the theater communications group got money from the NDA and young, like early career designers and directors to observe, assist other artists because you can't make anything. If it's the NDA. Right. It's like the rules that came out of all this stuff in the nineties. Right. And John called me up and was like, you need to apply for that. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally applied for that. I was thinking next year. Right. Like you need to apply this year. And I was like, well, yeah, but see, here's the reason and this and that thing. And he was like this year and I was like, but really I was like, you know, this next year. And I was like, this year, this year I'll do it this year. And then I got it. Speaker 1 (9m 4s): Was it amazing? It Speaker 2 (9m 5s): Was, it's an interesting thing. It was amazing in some ways. And in some ways it like slows your career down because you have to do six months worth of work within two years and you for the money and you get paid as you go, but you don't get to make anything. So it can like become a thing where you're like getting to know these amazing people and working with these amazing people. But you also, can't Speaker 1 (9m 28s): Interesting Speaker 2 (9m 29s): And make it, you know, like it slows down like what you can do as your own artist. I will say though, that, as I'm saying these words, even I'm thinking about the people that I worked with and how they function in my life and how important they'd been, like how important some of them still are Speaker 1 (9m 43s): Still in your life. Wow. Yeah. Speaker 2 (9m 45s): They gave me an extension on it as well, because that was also the time that I, I was the associate designer on the first production of top dog underdog. And that was a show that they were actually TCG was trying to get somebody in that room. And they were being like, well, we don't really want somebody to observe us. And I got offered to work on it, but I had worked with the whole team before, so they wouldn't let me do it, but they let me extend it. So they were pretty generous about like, yeah, I'll be making things happen. Wow. Yeah. Okay. And I got into DePaul and so I came to DePaul, I came up and visited and it was, Speaker 1 (10m 16s): And you, you, did you work with, was there, were you working with someone, a lighting designer at DePaul named Keith? Speaker 2 (10m 26s): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny when somebody talks about him, I don't know if it was you or Gina talking about him. We'll talk about seeing the scout, the Macbeth that we did that I did with Stacy Cabalero who I, who was my best friend from grad school. Oh yeah. When I think about grad school, like Shawna Flannigan and I were roommates for years after, but, but Stacy and I were super close. We did. So we did like so many of our shows together there and he was talking, it was it, you that he was telling that he commented on the costume. Gina was sitting next to him, but she was talking about it. She was like, and Keith param. And he was like, he was looking at it. He was like, oh my God. And I was like, I literally was listening to the podcast like, oh God, did he say something about my lights? What did he say? What did he say? Then? Then it was about Stacy. And I was like, oh, that's so funny. One of my close friends still. Speaker 1 (11m 14s): So yeah, he was the first person that made me really interested in lighting. And he, when we closed the show, the yellow boat together, he gave me a print of his drawing of the lighting, like, oh wow. With lighting. And I still got it framed. And it was, I was like, oh, well this kind, because I think personally that as actors, we're, we, we have this thing of like, our ego is like crossed all the time. So then we, we have, we have an inflated sense of ego really that we have to build. And we think that acting is the most important thing. And it was the first time it, my land that's garbage. And the first thing to person to really say, to show me like, oh my gosh, look, this is all part of a huge deal. Like I am not the huge deal that lighting is, everything has its place. And then we come together, but I was like, oh, this is, this is an art that really ties the whole show together. Like really? And it's like unsung magic. And I think a lot of actors anyway, just think that the lights up here and that nobody is behind them being the artist, creating that at least young actors, Speaker 2 (12m 30s): Young ones. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I think you're right about that in school, it's often Speaker 1 (12m 35s): Lighting for you. Like, what is it, what was it about that? Speaker 2 (12m 39s): You know, it's funny, my mother at one point was like having this big guilt thing that she had never encouraged me into it when I was younger. But like all of the signs did, like, unless you knew this was a thing, it didn't make sense. I was, I loved theater. My grandmother studied theater in New York in the thirties and she taught college. Yeah. She'd studied with a bunch of amazing people. She didn't work professionally, but, but she would take us to theater. Right. So it was a huge influence for my mother then for me. And I loved being an audience member. I never wanted to be on stage. And I haven't been a couple of times. And also now that I'm like, in my fifties, it's so much easier. Like I'm much more willing to jump off the right off the cliff and try whatever. Cause why not? What is it gonna embarrass me right now, please, please. If I didn't embarrass myself to death in my twenties, I think we're good now. You're good. So, yeah, but I, I, I just always like things that related. So I, like, I was interested in photography at one point, but I loved reading. I loved going to the theater. I have this, I was terrible in high school. It trig. I like, oh, I got like, I barely got through trigonometry class. And the second semester of the math track I was on was like analytical or spacial geometry. And it was like, I was a savant. I was like, that's what that 3d grid looks like. I can see that thing in space and I could answer, am I my teacher? And I were both like, what is up? How do I know this really have a good sense of space? And so if you look at the combo of all those things, they all really go together into lighting design. If you, if you know that thing. So when I went to undergrad, I'm in San Antonio at this small college Trinity university, super liberal artsy, sort of the opposite of your, your, what do we call them? We call academic classes and academics. I feel like we did, but they definitely, yeah. Academics. I really was. I had a lot of intense like philosophy classes and religion classes, all super helpful for the career that I have. But I also, my first semester took a intro to theater class and I loved the lighting. And then the second semester we were, I had to register dead last, like first year, dead last, you can't get anything. And a friend of mine that was in my end theater class was like, well, I'm going to, she was going to be a high school drama teacher, her name's Emily Goodpasture. And she decided that she was going to end. So Gilbert and good pasture registering last. She was like, I'm taking this sledding class. Cause I know I have to take all of the design classes and the acting classes for my future career as a drama teacher. And I think she take this learning class with me and I did. And then throughout college I would do other things, but I kept coming back to lighting. I just, I love the magic of the way light reveals form. I love looking at tons of different kinds of light bulbs. You know, my friend wants me to come to become Tik TOK famous and support us by telling people how to light their homes. Speaker 1 (15m 32s): Well, here's the thing that I, I actually, when you just said that, I have to say like, I was like, oh, I wonder what she thinks about filters and add tic-tac and the way people use light and could do you look at photos and videos and things and say, oh, that would be so much better if you just lit it like this. Are you able to do do that? Speaker 2 (15m 53s): Oh, for sure. I mean, I definitely, yeah. Most things in my life revolve around, you know, I always laugh cause I still go in theaters and look up at the lights and people are like, oh, I saw you looking at the lights. And I'm like, do you look at the actors? Of course, I look at the lights, I'm trying to figure out like the craft of what they did or you know, or what the equipment that they got to work with was, and yeah, but I can't, even though I could probably find another career with lighting that is so much more lucrative and I'm sure that that is true, right? The best part of my job for me still is that everyday when I go to work in theater, actors tell stories in front of me on stage live. And that is my favorite thing. I love going to plays. I love seeing performance and I love it live. So the fact that I get to be connected to that in some way and another character in that for me is really awesome. Speaker 1 (16m 39s): That's fantastic. And I I've never thought about it that way, that like, I mean, obviously I've thought about that a little, that the lighting is another character, but again, it's like, there are, there is a human and maybe a team of humans behind that character and that it, that you enjoy hearing the live stories being told. And that's why the theater versus, you know, film and TV, right? Like it's not, I mean, I guess you could still, it could be live on set, but like, you wouldn't be like the designer of a show. I don't even know how it works in television and film. Like the lighting people. Is there a lighting designer behind film and TV? Speaker 2 (17m 21s): There are no. And because there's so many more people on a film, I, and or television, there's more people encompass the single jobs that we do in theater, the DP it'd be the DP and the gray and then the interest and then editing is also a part of what we do. So, so all of those things sort of come together in that way. It's funny, David Swayze, do you remember Dan Swayze? He, so he's in film now and he's doing super well. Yeah. He's an art director and film and, and we have not kept up. We keep up actually better than I do with a lot of people, but it's been a couple of years. Yeah. He, even with the pandemic, it's been a couple of years. Yeah. He, he was talking one time about what he loved about doing television or film, he specifically film. And the thing that he loves about it is that it's, it's so immediate and you can make changes. So like, you can say like, oh, we need to, we, instead of doing it this way, we think this would look better and you can actively do that thing, which in theater set designers can't do that. But the rest of us can, I was like, you're talking about lightening design. I can make the change in the instant. You know, sometimes I have to say, I have to hang a light for tomorrow, but sometimes I can do like, hang on. My moving light will do that for us. Right. This second, you know? So I get to, I get to, it's funny though, we were like super technical or technological. And then all of a sudden it was like projections and sound, which were, you know, a slide projector and a yes. And you know, MiniDisc jumped us and they can craft in the room and we still can't craft in the room in the same way that they can, which I'm actually kind of grateful for. I like that. We get to say like, we're going to think on that. We're gonna let us Speaker 1 (18m 60s): Oh, wait. And think on that. Yeah. You know, that's interesting. Cause I, I, yeah, I liked the idea too of you're you're like a problem solver. Oh Speaker 2 (19m 13s): Yes. Right. Speaker 1 (19m 14s): Yeah. I love problem solvers. I think that they're really great to have in a room because I think it teaches everybody that like there are mysteries to be solved in the theater. And there are people that are trained to solve them that aren't me and they, and that we can work together. But problem solvers, we need the problem-solvers in, in rooms, in the theater. Like it's fantastic. Speaker 2 (19m 46s): But you know, it's interesting. We solve different problems, problems. Like I was years ago, we have this event on the last day of the semester, second semester at Columbia called manifest, which is this massive arts festival. It spills onto the streets. We have puppet show puppet, parades down the street. And we have, it's really fantastic. Photography has like gallery exhibits, super fun. This school is crazy. And I love it. And years ago it poured down rain and they had had this thing that they were going to do. This is pretty so long ago that I think it was 2009, actually it poured down rain. And they'd had this event that they were going to do called manna text. And they were going to, people could submit their phone numbers and they would text and be like, go to this stage. And you'll, if you're the 10th person there you'll get a thing. And texting was still like, we, it, wasn't certainly not the, the way we lived our lives. Right, Speaker 1 (20m 39s): Right. Speaker 2 (20m 41s): Yes. It poured down. And as soon as it pours, like we had an outdoor stage and I always, I, I produced it for the department. I thank God. I don't have to anymore. But I, I had, I always kept the stage free inside so that if anything happened, we could move it in. So we moved everything in and we didn't have lights up in the theater. And I, so I walked downstairs and I started hanging some lights and doing some things and I was working with, oh, this is funny. I was working with Kendra Thulin oh yeah. He was working with me on that because Kendra and I worked together again, somebody, I almost forget I went to school with. And so I started hanging the lights and everything and she's just staring, like she can't do it. And my kids walked in, my students walked in and I was like, okay, here's what I need you to do to finish this up, do this, do this, do this, hang that, get these gels. These from the sides, this from the front, I'll see you guys. They were like, great. And Kendra and I walked out to do something. And she was like, that was amazing. And I was like, it's what we know how to do. And then five hours later Manitex has fallen apart. They can't figure out what to do. And I'm standing there. I've got these two seasoned subscriptions to the department, which I'm pretty sure were free anyway, back then. And I'm like, what am I supposed to do with these? And I turned there, we're doing a musical theater thing. And I turned to a couple of minutes, you'll theater students. And I was like, get these to an audience member. Somehow they went on stage and made this hilarious, adorable competition. That was like a trivia thing, like trivia about musical theater. Right. And they gave them to the winner. And I was like, we all, I, my students would have turned to the human next to them and been like, do you have these, you know, that's why we're all together. That's why Columbia administration is constantly like, you're you have too many majors in your department. It's so unwieldy. And it's like, because it takes a lot of people to create an entire world. Speaker 1 (22m 26s): It really does. That is really true. And everybody solves different problems. Like nobody that does it does. It does take a bunch of people. That's really interesting. And then when you graduated, what did you do? Like, were you like, I mean, really your career kind of took off. I mean, you're co you're pretty fancy lighting cider. So how did you, did you just like, love it and people loved you and you started getting jobs or like how did it work? Speaker 2 (22m 55s): Yeah. There was a couple of stages in it. I, you know, it's funny. I did the big funk and what's hilarious about that to me is that when we did it, I was like, where are we? We are in the front end of someone's apartment. It is bizarre. These people live here in the back of this place and they're letting us do a play in the front and like flash forward, I don't know, 15 years. And I, I am friends with those people. Amazing. I did some moment in conversation. I was like, that was your place that I did that weird shit show with the weird lights in the cans. Like, so I started doing storefront and I S I had started assisting at Steppenwolf while I was at school. So I had, I, at the time that I was in school, I had a foot in both bootcamps. And so it is, I definitely, yeah, I definitely was splitting my time. And so I started doing more assisting it's definite wall. And in the fall, he'll never hear this the fall, right after graduation, I assisted somebody who sort of well known to be difficult business of lighting side. And for whatever reason, we absolutely hit it off. And he is like my brother today. And so I started traveling with him. I started working on projects all over with him and because he was difficult, theater companies would bring me to projects that they wouldn't necessarily bring an assistant on normally, because he's really, he's like the best in the business, but they knew I could handle him. And they knew that I could handle him by saying, I need you to leave the theater right now. And I'll take care of things while you sit her down. And so we, I would go to, I went to New York with him starting in 1998. I assisted actually my second Broadway assisting job was with him. My first one was from Steppenwolf. So I simultaneously was with Steppenwolf and him. And so my assistant career was like really amping up. And I was in these important rooms like Suzan-Lori parks and George Wolfrey top dog underdog with at the time the first production was Don Cheadle and Jeffrey Wright. And then those staff replaced Jeffrey or repost on. And so I was getting to do a lot of those really awesome things. And simultaneously I was doing storefront, right. And, and honing my skills and building my skills and knowing how, like I could watch the people that assisted make these massive shows with so much stuff. And I would think about those ideas. It's exactly what they tell you to do in school. But yeah. And then I would go back to the storefront with 17 lights and some candles, and I could make something that was really interesting because I had a much stronger sense of how equipment worked. You know, Keith always says that his graduate school was assisting per the years that he did. And he particularly assisted this amazing designer named Jim Ingles. And he's like, that was my grad school because I learned how to use our tools and then how to pull back from them. Speaker 1 (25m 35s): And how did you get, I think for people listening, they're going to be, well, how, how did she get to assist at step it, well, how did she get in the room at Steppenwolf? Speaker 2 (25m 44s): It was that guy, Kevin, the one that was my, you know, he taught us, but he, I, he knew I came up here and I reached out and I was like, I really, I want to have, you know, I, I want to work with you. I want to learn from you. And he, it's funny because now he's in Houston. I met him, but he is, he was great. And my second year, because the guy I came in with dropped the program, my second and third year, I was all alone. Like my classes were by myself. And so what John would often do was put me in a class with someone else. So that, like, there was a, for some reason, the third year BFA lighting class in my second year only had one wedding student. So we paired for the class in the class time, we had somebody to sort of like riff on and talk to, and our levels were different. But a lot of the projects that we did, like we spent one full quarter just in the light lab, which we usually, most semester, most years we did just making projects. And like, here's a song like the song by next week, here's a musical theater song. You you're lighting it as if it's musical theater, somebody on there, like something has to represent the chorus, visually something has to represent, how do you, how do you actually change the song as if it's a stage? And we have like little blocks of wood and like little people and things that we would put up and make these vignettes. And so she and I were just sort of at different levels on that, but Kevin was the teacher and it was, I actually had a one-on-one with him. And he said at the beginning of the year, he was like, I just want your, your resume is going to look good when you finish this class. And that was crazily enough. It was the 20th anniversary of Stephan wall. So I was the second assistant on very child. Gosh, that to Gary Sinise director, I worked on every man that Frank Lottie directed, I worked on the Libertine, how much was in. I did, I was an assistant second assistant on all of those shows. And then by the fourth show of that season, I ended up the first assistant who, who stayed with him for a while, but was sort of grooming me to be the next step. And that's how that sort of works sometimes is like we, our assistants move up and become our full peers. And then we train somebody else up in that way. And I, by the fourth show, I was actually getting paid while I was doing it for credit and stuff at school. So I think in those days I wouldn't have gotten in trouble for it today. They would be like, what, what? Speaker 1 (27m 56s): Right. But then you were like, yeah. Speaker 2 (27m 58s): So they didn't know. Right. Speaker 1 (28m 0s): They weren't keeping track of that is so cool. Speaker 2 (28m 3s): So I got to do that. Speaker 1 (28m 4s): Yeah. And then, and then did you, did you, what was the journey like to, did you live in New York? Like, did you live in New York, ever full time? Speaker 2 (28m 13s): Not full time. I spent a lot of time crashing on David Swayze's spare, like his studio floor. I did a lot of that for many years and, and other friends, new Yorkers are particularly skilled in the art of letting you stay with them. And so now, I mean, I joke that I'm the Heather Gilbert school for wayward or Heather Gilbert home for wayward Chicagoans, because I there's so many people who move out of Chicago and come back to do a show and I let them, I let them live in my spare room. My friend, Samantha, who's this brilliant costume designer. I mean, for like two and a half years, we were like, she was like my, my roommate. She came and went, I have somebody coming on the Saturday after Thanksgiving while she does a show, you know? Cause I feel like I'm giving back for all those times that I crashed in New York. So I did a fair amount of assisting and stuff there. I've only, I guess I've only designed about three times there actually. One of them was pretty significant. So yes. Speaker 1 (29m 9s): Talk about that. Let's talk about that. How did that come about? What, what, yeah. That journey of life. Speaker 2 (29m 17s): Yeah. My other job in grad school was I was bartender. I, yeah. I used to bartend at a place called bar San Miguel up on Clark street. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was a non-equity bar. And I started bartending there after, I guess, had our second year. It's funny during that huge heat wave of 95, I went there for the first time with Chris Freeburg and Kate McKernan. Yes. Half a year later I was working there and, and Cromer used to come in there cause it was a theater bar and I met him there. And so our relationship started 26 years ago. Holy shit. Speaker 1 (29m 48s): As tender in a patron. Speaker 2 (29m 50s): Yeah. That's how we met. That's amazing. Yeah. He loves that. I think he loves it. That's part of our origin story because it's funny when we, when he tells it and writes it like in a letter of recommendation or whatever, and, and we didn't work together until 2003, but we've known each other. At one point we quit smoking at the same time. And at one point that was like the most significant thing. And then all of these things that we've done have happened since, but now I'm also still thinking that maybe the most significant thing that we ever did together was quit smoking. That's fantastic. Speaker 1 (30m 18s): It's very significant. And it also, you did it together and it's a real bonding experience when you quit. Something like that. Speaker 2 (30m 26s): Yeah. It was tough. It's been, it's been, it's been 19 years this year. Congratulations. So we started then, and that was the moment also that like I did a show with him finally, and we did this miracle on 34th street that we all were super in need of money at Christmas time. And he wrote this adaptation and it started Tracy Letts, which we think is like the funniest thing in the world now. And so we did that show and then when I started, and then I started teaching shortly thereafter and I started, I did, and I went to LSU for two years in Baton Rouge. And when I came back because I loved teaching students, they're the best thing in the world. Higher education can make you want to pull your hair out. And state schools are often really like that if you're in the arts. So it was a struggle, but I came back here to Columbia, which I had only vaguely known of when we were in school. And that's, I didn't know that everybody who got cut came here until I was teaching here. And then it was funny because when I would, I don't remember when the cuts system stopped, but whatever point it did was after I started here, because you would be doing like the summer sort of advising with incoming students, you do your, your couple of sessions in the summer and kids would come in and their credits would be this really weird number. And I was like, I don't understand why that's not three credits, but it was like two points, 1.3 threes and 2.3 twos. And it was sort of like thirds, but not even HOAs. And I, and I found out that was, that was the sign of somebody who was cut from the theater school because it was the theater school classes that were those year long things, trying to get them into semesters. Right, right. Yeah. I was like, oh yeah, that's what happened to everybody who quit. And so, so, but David talkier and so we, we start teaching a collaboration class together, all really. I didn't know, that's cool for directors and designers. And so then we were going to do a show here at school together, but he, and we started the process and we were like, live, we got to live what we teach them. We got to, we got it. We got to collaborate like that. And we had to pull out of the show because he took adding machine to New York instead. And then he came home from adding machine. And that's when he had been talking about our town that he was going to do with the hypocrites, which was, I worked a lot with the artistic director of the hypocrites I had. I had a long relationship. I, I mean, he's still my friend, he's just second grader, John grainy, Sean and I, Sean was simultaneously, the two of them were sort of like my biggest income and my income through them. And so I, so, but I wasn't a part of the hypocrites. I was eventually, I was not at that point. Right. And he, he kept talking to the show, but he had to ask the resonance designer, but the resident designer who's my sweet friend now said no. And they brought me on to our town and you know, it's sort of like, the rest is history. Like we, David and I have a long history at that point and we have a, we had a friendship, you know, but we now, you know, we had like the let's let's, you know, talk on the phone and watch Dexter in the middle of the night friendship a little bit before that. But we now have done, I think I, I counted when we opened bug last week and I think we've talked 16 shows together and, and some of them have been really life-changing for both of us. So yeah, Speaker 1 (33m 37s): That is fantastic. And I feel like if you find a collaborator that just I'm recently have, have started working with someone that I just, I work with Gina, and then I work with other people, but like when you find someone like that, where you, you just, it just works out. Like it just works. There's something about it. The only thing you can think of is like, you know, it is some sort of, it almost feels like some kind of cosmic thing that comes together that you are able to do. Great. You can facilitate each other's great work without ending the relationship and having crazy, you know, fights and things that don't lead to total destruction. That's magic. Speaker 2 (34m 24s): Yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting cause directors go, I think they probably do this to actors too. If they have a deep relationship more than anything, they go stuff's right there. Like they just stopped calling and you're like, come on. Right. And Cobra, at one point it was in New York and working with new people and our town had come to a close. Right. Which, cause that sort of kept us together for a long time. We did that show that was over over seven year period of time, all the venues. And so we, we had, you know, we'd, we'd, we'd had a connection and we had done other couple of other new shoot new shows within that time. Yeah, sure. It wasn't just our town. Right. And then we'd done our streetcar that was really successful. And the Sam Rockwell was in really isn't that crazy. I did a person who was Sam Rockwell, who was so lovely. I came up and was like, oh my God, the lighting is so beautiful. I was like, oh, so I will be heard in it. So how do you know? But, Speaker 1 (35m 17s): But he, but even to say it, you know, like what a sweetheart? Yeah. I was at a wedding with him cause he was in a movie with my boss and he was lovely, a lovely and like a pro like a real, Speaker 2 (35m 31s): So I get so excited for him now all the time. So, but we had healed David actually sort of like wasn't calling. And I was like, oh, are we not going to work together anymore? And it's funny because I think in the history of our lives, it will, it's actually a blip, but it felt like a long time. And I was like, okay, well I guess that's okay. Like relationships do shift and, and partnerships do add, nobody wants to somebody forever. Absolutely. But I was like, I actually, we are, I am, you know, I was not a Columbia kid. I'm like, I have a pocket in a thousand ways. But yeah, I did work. I do teach at Columbia and I am a Sheldon Patinkin person. I'm one of his people and Sheldon taught you, you see each other's shows. That is what we do for each other. Right. I was like, I'm going to still see your shows. Right. We have way too much of a history for our friendship to die because we're not, we're not doing right. Right. So I kept, I stayed around. Yeah. I was like, I'm not going to, I'm going to come to me. I'm going to see your things. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to go see the band's visit or I'm going to go also, I get to see the bands visit then come on. Right. Or I'm going to see your comeback, little Sheba with Derek  in Boston because I love that. You know? And so when the time rolled around, I found out he was doing a production of next to normal at writers theater. And I loved that show and I had done a production of it that I kept texting him, being like, oh my God, I wish I were doing your production of this. Not that I didn't think that one was great, but it was much more of the sort of flash and trash version. Right. And I wanted to see David's version where there's like a dining room table and people around it. Right. You know? And I just, I was, so I texted him as soon as I heard from our friend Lilianne was like, I will do the show. And he woke up the next morning and he was like, he texted me back. I was like, it was kind of a non David text. I was like, this is very specific and kind, and I he's listing these things, but he was like, these are the, I woke up this morning and I saw your text. And I called Michael Halberstam, who was still the artistic director at the time. And so we have to hire Heather for the show and he said, okay, but we already hired Keith. And I was like, yeah, I fucking knew it. I knew I was going to be too late. I'm reading this text. And David's like, and I screwed up. And these are the reasons why, and he was like, writer's theaters are theater. It's our place. Which just so you know, he'd just done as many shows with Keith as he has with me. But he went through and he was like gave me their reasons that were really lovely. And then he said, Williamstown is going to reach out about a show, Adam rap's new play. And I was like, Williamstown really paid nothing. Why is that my constellation prize? I was totally annoyed. And then Williamston production was a struggle. Like we did this by the way, the play is the sound inside because we have not said the name of it if anybody's listening. And we, so we were, it was a struggle, you know, you have to do it very quickly. It's a big play for, for the, the lead actress in it and the actress in it. And, and it was a struggle for her. She, she definitely was acting out a little bit. Yeah, sure. And, and so, and you don't have much time and you're doing it with people who are, you know, these interns that I it's sort of famously a conversation in the industry right now about specifically how William sound carries those interns. So you're feeling guilty and also they don't know what they're doing as well. So there's a lot of pressure on that. Right. And I loved it. I loved that place so much. I read that play and I was like, oh my God, this is beautiful. It's this beautiful play about what we do when we were in need in our loneliness. And it's just, it's ju it just hit me. I don't know how Adam Rapp, who's this like hyper alpha masculine male actually has that insight into, I think, because it's insight into humanity and thus, he can change it into he's like, well, women feel the same thing men do. We're right. We're not different creatures. Right. So, yeah. Wow. And then, and then the show moved to New York a year later to Broadway to studio 54, which my God, I got to crawl around in studio 54. It took me crawl over that building. I was like, she'll be everything. Where did they keep the drugs? I'm so cute. Right. Right. Yeah. And we, I went up into the there's a dome and I got to go up into the dome and look down into the space and see where they store all the lights. And I got the full tour one day. It's great. The crew is the best crew in the entire world. And we did this beautiful play and people were, you know, it's funny. I, I actually was just, I submitted an application last night at 11:58 PM for full professorship. Like that's the highest level of, of teaching here. Yeah. And when you get tenure, you have to apply for that. But then once you've got it, you actually don't have to apply for anything, a promotion past that. Yeah. So I finally had committed to doing it. And so it's funny, I've been thinking so much about my philosophy of lighting and the way I approach it. But one of the things is that there's that old saw the best line design is lighting. The can't be seen, which is just a load of crap anywhere like Eddie in any scenario, like just say like you and I can't see the light where we are right now. Right. We see it. We know it's there. What they really mean is if I change, if I break the rules of the reality that I set up for you and notice that that's bad lighting design. Right, right. It's like, it's, I was compared to like, weirdly as a lighting professor, I had Meisner in this paper that I was writing yesterday. This document is writing. Cause it's like, it's that idea of living truthfully in imaginary circumstances. It's the same thing for us. We're creating those circumstances and we're trying to make it so that the actors can live in truth and everything has it. And if the rules are light comes out of the floor. Right. And it changes when I take a step, as long as I, as long as we create those rules for the audience. Right. And, and train them, they know what it is and then they follow it. Yeah. Speaker 1 (41m 6s): We'll go with you. It's consistency. It's authenticity. It's telling the truth in the moment and yeah. Staying true to what the vision is, whatever that vision is. But yeah, it also reminds me of like the good lighting is shouldn't be noticed or whatever is like, women should be seen and not heard. It's totally like fuck off. Speaker 2 (41m 28s): So I was talking about something about myself too, and I almost was talking about leadership and I almost said, you know, because I was called bossy as a child, and now we acknowledge that. That just meant I was a leader. Speaker 1 (41m 37s): Yeah. Right. It just meant that. And you know, it's interesting because my recollection of you in college was that you knew what the hell you were doing now. Granted, I mean, everyone has different, you know, I'm sure you didn't always know what you're doing. Cause you're a human being. But like my recollection of you is that you were like, I think maybe because also you were a grad student, right. So, but you definitely had vision. You were someone that I was like, oh, they know what they're doing and, and why they're doing it. So there was this thing about you that I really felt from the little, I knew that like you had motivation or like a, a direction and also a curiosity, but, and a, I just, I just think you were like very early on like a master of your craft, which meant that also masters in my view, like really study and take the shit seriously and have a lot of pride in their work. That was it. Like not a lot of people had a pro. I mean, I can speak for myself. Like it wasn't like, I, I felt like you could stand behind your work. I've always felt that like, when I read stuff about, about you or like when I follow your career, it's like you stand by your work. That's fucking phenomenal, you know? Speaker 2 (42m 55s): Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. I feel like a lot of that was also the training that we were getting in the, in the design program because we had, we had such good professors, particularly John, we, we, we had Franco Lovecchio was there for two years. Right. Who was the most wonderful, crazy human in the entire world. He would like, literally, like you'd be drawing in the studio and you'd be like drawing on something. And we all learned that you had to keep tracing paper over a culture, which is something called trace really. But we would, we would have trace taped to our drawing boards so that the minute he sat down, you could throw a trace over it. Or he would just start drawing all over you drawing. And, but he would like nudge you off your chair while he was like, fixing your time for you. And you'd tell him, be standing there watching him doing your work. And you were like, maybe, maybe not, maybe, maybe I'm in school. Maybe I want to learn how to do that. He was so funny though. So great. But then John Colbert has, is like really like taught us like the, that you have to be able to justify the work that you have to understand the rules of the piece that you and the rigor that goes behind that. And Nancy Beulah, who's the same. Who was just this amazing. She's the, she used to let, she used to let you do your project again, to get your grade up a little bit. And I would get like a B plus on something for her and I would do it again. And it wasn't even that I really needed. Like, I wasn't great. I wanted her to think I was working. Like I needed her to have that belief in Speaker 1 (44m 15s): G she, there was something. So she costumed me and said she just, she was so affirming. And also like you, there was something about she, she made me believe that she knew that I was going to be okay and that I was going to be a professional and that I could do it. Like there was, it was amazing. It was so much, there was like a strong confidence that she instilled in me as a costume person, which I, I just felt, again, she stood behind her work too. Like she was a bad-ass like, there was no like, ah, apologizing, there was no apologizing. And I feel like we just spent so much of our lives or at least I have apologizing that when I see someone like a career like yours, I'm like, oh, maybe this comes from not apologized. Like maybe not apologizing for, for us as women as in our work, you know, like this is badass work I'm doing and I'm going to continue to do it. I dunno. It's just a fierceness. Speaker 2 (45m 19s): Well, for me too, I feel like the thing that I'm proudest of in my, in my age and in my success is that I no longer feel like the pressure of having to be complete on the first day of tech. Like, I'm like, I'm going to put an incomplete, that thing up there, and I'm going to start to see how light is moving on these people and what that does. And I know it might not look good, but I'm not going to worry about that. It's going to be okay. You know, I'm going to be able to, I know I will make it look great. I know I can. I know that what I put up there for the first draft is going to be the right first draft, because I know what I'm doing and I know that it doesn't have to be complete. Right. And I'm fine with that. And like, David is really great for that because he has no expectations of that either. Speaker 1 (46m 3s): Yeah. That's fantastic. I mean, that's like really the difference between being product oriented and process oriented, right? Yeah. As an artist. And like, for me as a writer, like writing for TV, my first draft, if it's not, it's, it's terrible. And it's exactly where it's supposed to be. But if I have expectations or get in my own way and feel self-conscious about it, the whole thing is it doesn't work. So it's like, this is a shitty first draft. And by shitty, I mean, wonderful. You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (46m 32s): So wonderful first draft, right? It's never supposed to be the final thing. Totally. We were also taught at school that because we don't stick around for the product, right. We're not part of the product. We, I mean, we are, we're making a product, right. Because we're not ever, once the product goes, our AR is there, we're gone from it that we need to be really process-oriented. And that our process is what's going to get us hired aspect of working with us. Speaker 1 (46m 59s): I love that. And I feel like if we could, if we, I wish I would have learned that more and I'm not, I don't blame anyone for it. I just think it's the way the life is. But like, I'm, that's what I think I've spent my adult career as an artist becoming more process oriented and less product oriented and less and less judgy, right. About my and other people's process of, of like, it doesn't look the same. And so I think when you find a collaborator, which it sounds like David, what is for you that is also, and in the same sort of thought process in terms of how art is created, that's what works, because you're both sound like you're like no expectations for the first thing to be the thing. Like it changes it pivots, it moves, it's moving, it's breathing and moving. And I think that that's probably why your work together is so powerful and profound is that you both have this view life view right. Of art that works together really well. Right. So, and that sounds fine when I find those people. Those are the people I want to stay with and work with. Yeah. Speaker 2 (48m 7s): Yeah. And I think too, like one of the things getting back to sound inside and David, is that like, I, the thing that people often comment on is my use of darkness on stage that I actually commit fully to it, that I don't have a problem having actress speak from the dark. And I did the first time I ever had something that was really dark. I was like, oh God, like, you know, you're taught that, that can't be funny. Right. People actually laugh at things that here in the dark, it turns out. And so, but so being able to like be tiny and focused and just have a little bit of light, you know, and sound inside became that piece, which was like, we created the premise of the play is that this professor is telling the, talking to the audience and we don't really know what that's about. Like, I don't know. And I don't know the answer to that because I almost felt like knowing, like we don't want the audience to fully know. And I felt like if I know too much, then I, it may manifest. And so I never, even though Adam rap became, I tell him that he's the brother. I didn't get no offense to the brother. I did get, but I love Adam and I can ask him anything and talk to him about anything. But I have never asked him the truth of the play, which is, is it happening? Is it my meal? There's a character that we question is the character even real? Is she writing a book as she talks to the audience, this character, a Bella college professor, or is she, or there's a reference to a book at the end of the play that you like? Did she steal that book? And a lot of that was taken, there were a lot more concrete parts of the story when we did it Williamstown and they were taken out for the Broadway production to let the audience sort of float in their own uncertainty more. And so the idea is that Bella, this character who, who is this professor is actually the only fully fleshed out part of the play at the beginning. And that we slowly revealed the world as she creates it as she sort of illustrating it. And so that actually gave me the ability to have this production that was like using little amounts of light, a lot of darkness. Like I like, but also was in a way flashy, because we'd have like a big window on the side, on the wall of the sets. And then all of a sudden it would shift like instantly into a different time of day. And the shape of the window would change in the color of the window would change, but it was all very graphic. And then eventually within these like sequence of scenes in this office with this window, eventually the final one was this massive projection of a very real window. So, and so I got to work and I worked really closely with the production designer, who was the handsomest person in design. His name is Aaron Ryan. If you ever meet him, you're going to be like, I didn't know that designers looked like that. I thought only actors did. Wow. And he's the best dude in the land. I love him so much. Speaker 1 (50m 33s): So, so I guess yeah. Being mindful of your time, I just want to ask you if you, because we do have a lot of younger folks that listen to the show and that are interested in careers as designers, not just after, you know, now there's like such a, we're trying also to shine a light on designers. Cause it's awesome. Right. We don't, I mean, acting is not the only name of the game here. So what would you say if someone came to you and said, Hey, I'm interested in the theater. What does, what w what kind of person do I, it's kind of a hard question, but what kind of person do I need to be, to be a designer? I know if I'm a designer, Heather, Speaker 2 (51m 26s): I actually am really conscious of like the personality quirks of designers, because I watch it so much in my students. Right. And it's interesting because I am, I can't make a, I can not build a model. I cannot build a model. I, it was hated in school and it, but it's this really sort of detailed private work. And I'm a much, I'm super extroverted, which that doesn't mean all lighting designer extroverted, but like, I have to be able to work out here. Like I don't work here. I have to be able to work openly. I also have to work in public. Everybody is there when actors and designers have that rare thing in which actors and lighting designers, I should say, we, all of our work is done in front of other people. You cannot, like, you might have a smaller room and only a couple people at first, but like, it's still the same and we don't get to make it privately. And then somebody builds it and we go, oh, paint it that way. Or even like, listen to in our headphones. No, you have to be okay with that. You have to be really good with like a super high level of pressure. And you have to let it roll off of you. I worked, I love Sean Graney. This will not surprise anybody who knew Shawn grainy or losing his Shaun could be very difficult in a tech. I'm not the easiest dude, always in the world, but I love him to death. And there was an actor that we used to work with who just would Marvel. We worked with this person so many times and was a big part of the company. And with Marvel, it, me, because Sean would get tense and it'd be like really stressful and like pushing, pushing to get it done faster. And I would just let it all roll off. And it's because I have to be able to do that and know that this is my time. Right. Reclaiming my time. I was like, oh yeah, I do that all the time because I know that this is when I can do the thing. I also have to know when I can say, Hey, you know what? I can do this later. I can do this without people, or it's taking too long and it's slowing us down and it's, it's killing our process. It's not letting us all move forward as a group. And I'll deal with this thing later. Right. But I also know that I have to do it now. And that's the way this process works until somebody changes it, I'm going to do it in the room. And so I will take my time. I have to be able to work as quickly as I can in that. And I have to know that I have to deal with the pressures from other people. Speaker 1 (53m 27s): So it's got a little bit of, it's interesting. It's a it's human relationships that makes with time management mixed with reclaiming your time mixed with knowing when to, yeah. When you can let go and say, okay, I'm going to do, but like, I, I don't think people, at least I'll speak for myself. Younger people think that you need, well, the ones I encounter my students too, like, you need people skills as a designer. Oh, you need people skills. Like, just because you're not an actor doesn't mean you don't, you know, you got to work with people. And I think your, from your interview, it's really clear that like, there's all different kinds of people you're going to work with, and you're not going to get along with all of them, but you can also figure out a way, right. To still have the process, be one of where you get your work done, get rehired. If that's what you want and still be a kind human and work, you know, in the industry. And I think that's really interesting that you, the rolling off the back. Yeah. Because people in tech and in tech and intense situations get bonkers bomb, bonkers, bonkers Speaker 2 (54m 30s): Years ago, I was assisting on a production of the Scottish play in New York that George Wolf was directing that Angela Bassett and Alec Baldwin were starring in and the pressure and the pressure on it was super high. And then everybody who was a secondary person was like, we have Schreiber and Michael Hall and Zach brown. Speaker 1 (54m 48s): I mean, it was our secondary Speaker 2 (54m 50s): People. Cause they were babies that like Zach rabbit just finished school. Like let's start on it. And we, and the pressure was super high. And, and we were on the third floor of the building and the electric shop was in the basement. And my designer was like yelling at me and I would pass it on. I would pass that energy on. And the assistant lighting supervisor took me out for pizza and was like, you can't do that. And he was like, you have to be the wall. And if you can't be the wall, this might not be your job. He's like, you can still be a designer, but assisting might not be the way you got there. And this guy must've been, I mean, he was maybe my age. He was probably younger than me. His name was Todd greatest thing that ever happened to me. Yep. It changed me forever. I was like, you're right. That is my job. And actually, I'm very good at that. I am a cheerleader and I'm a person who cares about people and I have no problem. I mean, there will be times that I'm not trying to say, I'm never put pressure on the people around me. I get impatient too. I'm not a patient person, but, but I can, I can try to protect the people around me. And I, and I love my team that people who make the lighting thing happen, you know, I kept, I, we won the, I did this production bug with David right before the pandemic. And then we just did it again unless we could set them off. And we won the Jeff award for it. As I like to say, we won the Jeff award. Like my team won that award. I didn't do it by myself, but I actually took it into the first day of tech and we put it on the tech table for the second round. And I was like, everybody had my crew put a light on it and they would run the light up. And it was like, everybody may give me notes through the Jeff. The Jeff looks up notes for me. That's hilarious. I will speak to none of you. I will speak to Carrie Coon, Carrie Coon also want to Jeff that she may speak directly to me because what else do you do with an award? There's so weird there, Speaker 1 (56m 30s): Right there, weirdness. And they're weird and they're nice and they're in your effort. And it's the only way we have really, as human acknowledged this stuff, but in a, in a sort of ceremony kind of a way, but like, all right, well, I just thank you for talking Speaker 2 (56m 46s): Absolutely Speaker 1 (56m 47s): Pleasing. And I, I, you know, I just, I'm always left when I talk to someone like you I'm like left with this wish for young women to know that there are so many jobs and careers in the theater that you don't just have to be an actor or an actress or whatever you want to call yourself. There are so many things. And, and by, and for me also, it's like, oh my gosh, please find someone that's doing the thing you might want to do and ask them questions and see if you can get information, you know, like an informational interview, which is essentially what we do on this podcast is do an informational interview with people we went to school with and other people, but like get the information. So thank you for putting the information about your career and your journey out there for us. And we'll, we'll keep in touch and you'll get a copy to review before we air it. And, but just, thank you. Thank you so much. Speaker 2 (57m 45s): Totally. I'll send you guys some pictures I have to please. And, you know, they're printed. I actually had to go into a box and found Speaker 1 (57m 51s): Them. It's a whole thing. Speaker 2 (57m 53s): Yeah. Much like everybody else. I went through all of those during the pandemic. So I was trying to figure if I had one with me and Keith, cause that would be awesome. Speaker 1 (57m 60s): That would be fine. Speaker 2 (58m 3s): It's funny. I love telling people in the, in the lighting community that like I drove her, we've been friends for so long. I drove him home from college for Christmas, his first year of college, you know, and then, and now he's like, like he did his first runway show at studio 54. And then I did my first Broadway show in studio 54. And like, yeah, I really love getting to share all of that with him. And he's a true and great artist. And I just, S

In this episode, CEO of CS Thrive, Kirsten Franklin, talks about mindset. Today, Kirsten talks about what mindset is, why we should care about it, and how it affects our outcomes, results, and everyday life. How can we leverage mindset to change the results of things we don't like in our lives? How can we change our core beliefs? Hear about Kirsten's four questions, her stopwatch strategy, and get her advice on how to manifest as a conduit, all on today's episode of The Healthy, Wealthy & Smart Podcast.   Key Takeaways “What you deeply believe will always play itself out for you.” “Sometimes just the awareness of the thing makes the thing go away.” “When you're really in the moment, just throw a big red stop sign in your head. What you're doing is actually stopping the subconscious chatter. That alone can elevate you.” “If you're still trying to get to that next level, then you have to pay attention to what you're saying to yourself at this level. You have to hear what you're saying, because it's dictating your reality.” “It's the ‘taking action' that's the hard part.” “None of it is a big deal. Relax.” “There's two ways to manifest. There's the manifest by force versus when you open up and let the universe and all of its power flow through you.”   More about Kirsten Franklin Kirsten is a world-class rapid transformation coach who has helped change the lives of over 1000 individuals. She is the brains behind the unique MVP method that is responsible for helping her clients rapidly transform their Mindset, raise their Vibrations, and modify their Processes, so they can achieve their dream lives. She helps people overcome fears, adversities and traumas while improving their clarity, focus, performance, communication, relationships and thinking, so they can fulfill their ambitions. Many of her clients are seen as being highly successful and seek her out to help them define and achieve their next-level. She has spent over sixteen years studying mindset, positive psychology, behavioral science and neuroscience and she is a master of techniques such as Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), Strategic Intervention (SI), Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Coaching (CBT), Timeline Therapy, Mindset, Mindfulness, Meditation and more. Kirsten received her Juris Doctorate from St. John's University School of Law in 2001. Now retired, she owns multiple companies and is the CEO of CS Thrive, a coaching and consulting company that helps executives, founders, small business owners and athletes become unfu*kwithable in their business and lives. In free time, she is the host of the podcast Girl on Fire; writes for “Mind-Flux,” a publication she created on Medium.com; writes fiction and non-fiction books, and hosts live events. She has been featured in Thrive Global, NBC, CBS, and Fox.   Suggested Keywords Mindset, Mindfulness, Fears, Psychology, Behaviour, Therapy, Awareness, Manifest, Conduit, Abundance, Action, Reality, Subconscious, Liberty, Results, Outcomes, Positivity,   To learn more, follow Kirsten at: Website:          https://www.kirstenfranklin.com                         https://www.csthrive.com Podcast:          https://bleav.com/podcast-show/bleav-in-girl-on-fire Facebook:       Kirsten Franklin Instagram:       @kirsten_franklin Twitter:            @CSThrive LinkedIn:         Kirsten Franklin Clubhouse:     @kirstenfranklin   Subscribe to Healthy, Wealthy & Smart: Website:                      https://podcast.healthywealthysmart.com Apple Podcasts:          https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healthy-wealthy-smart/id532717264 Spotify:                        https://open.spotify.com/show/6ELmKwE4mSZXBB8TiQvp73 SoundCloud:               https://soundcloud.com/healthywealthysmart Stitcher:                       https://www.stitcher.com/show/healthy-wealthy-smart iHeart Radio:               https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-healthy-wealthy-smart-27628927   Read the Full Transcript:  Speaker 1 (00:01): Hey, Kiersten. Welcome to the podcast. I'm so excited to have you on. So thanks for joining me today. Thanks Karen. It's great to be here. It's nice to see you again. I know, just so everyone knows I was on Kirsten's podcast a couple of weeks ago, and we will talk all about that podcast and where people can find it a little bit later, so you have to wait to get the good stuff. But in the meantime today, we are going to talk about mindset. So I feel like mindset can mean a lot of things. So what is it really? Yeah, so that's a great question because it's one of those words like coach or like this, or like that, that we hear all over the place and for me in the way that I use it. So it was actually originally coined by Carol Dweck and she was talking about eight thought process, like being fixed or growth mindset, meaning you believe that you were given a certain sort of limitation and that's the highest you can go and that's fixed. Speaker 1 (01:04): Right? And that no matter what you do, you'll never going to go and surpass that level of ability. And growth is one where you feel as though, you know, you have the ability to change it, right? You can, you can go beyond the quote limitations. There are no limitations. And the way that it's sort of been more used frequently is in discussing the subconscious mind. And that's something she references back to because that's actually where all the magic happens. And you know, the way I use it is really talking about that subconscious language. It's about the core beliefs that you hold about yourself. It's almost like the rule of law that you have decided is true for you and you're going to live by it no matter what, Hey, even though you don't really know, you kind of created those laws. So it gets a little tricky in that people understand the difference between conscious and subconscious, but as you talk to them, they really believe many times that they know what they're thinking. Speaker 1 (02:02): And the funny thing is is you don't until you catch it and you really kind of latch on and you're like, oh, why did I say that that way? Right? And, and you kind of have to dig into it, but you can, you can understand your deepest core beliefs by the language. And actually just take a look around you. Is there something in your life that you don't like, or maybe you're kind of feeling attracted towards or repelling against, then there's something out of alignment in those core beliefs, because whatever you believe is what you're going to see in your reality. And so when we use the term mindset, is that dependent upon our core beliefs? You know, or is this, I mean, obviously mindset is something we can change, but if people say, oh, well I have these core beliefs and they're not going to change. Speaker 1 (02:51): So then how can the mindset change? Does that make sense? Yes. And actually there's a perfect example. So a lot of times I like to ask for questions when somebody is in a certain emotional pattern, right? Let's say, oh my God, I have anxiety. I can't drive over bridges. Right? Like, or, or whatever it is. So I'll ask four questions and I ask the first question, like, could you let that feeling in like, are you willing to just feel it? Because if you're not willing to let it in and you're constantly pushing it away, well, you can't get rid of it because you're, you're, you're not willing to work with it. Right. The second question I'll ask is, do you believe it's even humanly possible for you to eliminate the feeling of anxiety? Could it ever just go away? Right. And these are just yes or no questions. Speaker 1 (03:35): And if the answer, yeah, I think I could get rid of it. Like that's totally possible for me. Right. The next question I would ask is, would you let it go? Are you willing to let it go? Okay. And again, it's a yes or no. The reason I ask these questions is a yes or no fashion is at any point when you say no, no, I'm not willing to let it in. Then you can't let it go. No, I don't believe, I don't believe it's possible that I could just eliminate it then. Guess what? You will not eliminate it. Right? No, I don't. I, you know, I'm not really willing to let it go. Okay. Well then, you know, you're going to keep it for some reason, right. Or if you say yes, all the men in the last one says, okay, well, when, when are you going to let it go tomorrow? Speaker 1 (04:15): Okay. There's a reason why you're not today. Right? So, so the thing about what you had just said is that whatever you believe is going to be true. So if you believe it's not possible, it's not going to, it's not going to, it's not going to be possible for you. Right. And so, so it's a, it's a, it's a tricky little thing, you know? And so how can we, how can we change our beliefs? How does that work? That's a, that's a long process and a short one. So you can actually just change them. That's the fastest way to change them is to literally just change them. What is it that you wish you believe? What is it that you hoped you live? How is it that you would hope things would be, and then just believe them? And it's actually that simple. Now I know a lot of us thinking like, yeah. Speaker 1 (05:06): Okay. You're funny. I, I that's. I'm like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Right. But I want you to think of the moment. There has to be a moment in your life where you're so off. So fed up, so done with something that it was done. You're never going to take that, do that, see that, feel that again, and you walked out on it. Like it typically happens in relationships. I'm never going to have that. You don't, you're done, never happened again. Right. Because you're done because whoever you were that got yourself into that situation, you were done with it and you were not willing to accept it and you won't ever accept it again. Right. Whether it's like somebody who speaks to you in a certain way or does something or whatever, or even the way the grocery bag of groceries, you know, bags of groceries. Speaker 1 (05:47): You're like, yo, you like it. You know, it's just done. That's the same thing in our head. Sometimes we can just be so over something that we're done with it. And it changes right there in an instant. Right. and then more typically it's we think a lot about how we wish it could be how we wish it should be, should be as a, as a dangerous one for me, because it's a comparative thing. Oh, I should be here, but I'm not, oh, like, I shouldn't be married, but I'm not, oh, this should be this way. And that starts a spiral of depression because your life doesn't look the way you want it to, then it's no good and it's all wrong. And then it comes down. And as you know, when we have these stressors and emotional things, they come out physically. Now you have neck pain. Speaker 1 (06:33): Now you, now you get headaches. Now, all of a sudden, your knees hurt. Right. If it's not a physiological difference, then it's typically coming from an emotional space it's coming from inside. Right. So how do we change them? I mean, look, I'm going to be totally honest. You can like, go, am I allowed to swear? I'm going to try not to sweat. You could like Google this stuff. Okay. Like there are affirmations, there's hypnosis. There's, self-hypnosis, there's positive cycles. There are a million different ways. And I don't believe in one size fits. All right. So I could lay down some techniques right now. And you know, a third of y'all will get it, do it, try it. It'll work. A third of you will be like, yeah, I'm not even bothering. And a third of you will try it and it's not going to work. Speaker 1 (07:13): Right. But even that is in your head. So if you are someone who doesn't believe that talking things out helps anything. Then if my method is talking things out, then it's not going to work for you. So that's the power of our brain. Let me tell you how powerful our brain is. I was just having this conversation. So, you know, I was talking to somebody and there's a blind spot. So meaning your eye, witness identification, all stuff, all bad. Why? Because we interpret things so differently and we can create blind spots. So you ever had that moment where you're like, oh, can you get me that book on the shelf? Right. And the person's like, I don't feel like getting you up, but you're standing right next to the shelf. Just grab it to me and give it to me. Okay, fine. What's the book it's not here. Speaker 1 (07:55): Right. And all the fighting goes back and forth. You finally get up from your seat. You walk over to the shelf right in front of the space is the book he or she literally couldn't see it because somewhere the command was given no book. You don't have to get it. You don't want to get it. It's not there. This is stupid stuff. Right. And so it literally happened. And so it's kind of crazy. Like, I can't tell you all the science behind it because we're studying it every day. In fact, you and I, before this, this packets were just talking about how they figured out. They think the, the place in your brain that lights up when you're deciding whether something is going to get stored in your subconscious mind. Now that's a really interesting place to play because I mean the magic that we can make happen right there, who knows. Speaker 1 (08:40): Right. But you know, it's, it's many different techniques to change it. You know affirmation again, you can Google that, you know, but it's really important because what you deeply believe will always play itself out for you. So I always tell people, take a look around your life. If there are areas or places that you are just simply unhappy, you really need to dig into your beliefs about yourself, the way it's supposed to look how it's supposed to be, and you'll see how that's playing out. Yeah. So I, it sounds to me that you're saying not, there's no one size fits all for this. And I think that's the realest answer. You know, like you said, I can tell you this or this, and it might work for some and not others. And so it sounds like you need to figure out what is going to work best for you and then seek that out. Speaker 1 (09:42): Yeah. And it's a testing thing, right? I mean, you really do have to go through things. Like I have a mindfulness email that I send to everyone it's 52 weeks. And why, because it's literally 52 different ways to practice the same thing. Right. Mindfulness. Right. But the goal is, is that okay? You try it one week. Some people get bored with stuff really easy. Right now it's a new thing they could do every week. Right. But the goal is that at the end of it, it doesn't matter whether you picked up or found your thing, you just did it for an entire year, 52 different ways, but you did it. So at the end of the year, you still have the result, even though you didn't realize you were kind of doing that, you know, here I'll, I'll tell the audience one thing that they can do that works for everyone period. Speaker 1 (10:23): And it's only if you do it. So just remember you have to do it, actually do it. And it's something I do with all my clients. And it's called no negative and try it for a week. Try for a few days, it's really about awareness. And what I started them off doing is I literally have them take their phone, their stopwatch feature on their phone. When they wake up, they started the very first instance where they feel, say, or do something in the quote negative. They have to hit the stopwatch button, record the time, write down kind of what it is. They were doing, what it is, they're feeling what it is or how I was saying. So you wake up, you hit this, do you start the thing? Like, oh crap. I got to go to work. Gosh, 12 seconds, 12 seconds elapsed. All right. Speaker 1 (11:06): Oh crap. I have to go to work. All right. Start the button again. Okay. Brushing my teeth, got to pick out clothes. I got dressed. All right. Hit the button. Right. And, but that's it because you'll see, even by the end of the first day, people are shocked at how many, how many, but also how often and frequent things come because you live your life on autopilot all day. You don't realize that you're living sometimes in this hugely negative space. You think you're fine and you can't figure out why you're grumpy by the end of the day. Well, if you're telling yourself, oh, every five seconds, this isn't good. That's bad. Oh no. We've got to think about this. Yo of course, you're going to bring your vibration down. And your day is going to suck by the end of the day, every day. You know what I mean? It just is. So, so that's a technique I like to do. And that's only part of the technique, but that, that, that level of awareness, just as eye-opening most of the time. So that's a fun one to do. Oh, that's great. I'm going to try that. Oh gosh. Look, I'm already negative. No, no, no, no. Speaker 1 (12:08): Yes. All my new Yorkers let's do it. We all know how we are. We think we're funny. We're really like sarcastic and negative. Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'll try that tomorrow. And we'll see what happens. I will report back to you. So, so obviously we know mindset is something that can be altered. Can't be changed. It can be positive. It can be negative. So how does that affect our outcomes and in how we live our life every day? Yeah. So, so let me give you an example. I call it the kindergarten story because I think it's kind of common for a lot of us. So I want you to imagine that you're in kindergarten. If you're listening to this outside of the country, it's a one year about four or five years old. It's the first level of school you go to here in the United States. Speaker 1 (12:58): And we have this thing called Valentine's day. And at the kid level, we just, you know, get a bunch of candidates together, throw a bunch of cards and give one out to each member of the class. But sometimes there's that special Valentine. Right? So, so let's say little care. It's kindergarten. And she's all excited. Turned her mom made all the little Ballantine things she's handing out. But Joey, her best friend, well he's has the special Valentine. And she's going to ask him to be his, be her beer Valentine. Right? So Karen goes up to Joey, we made a special bone. That'd be, will you be my Valentine? Joey loves comedy. He says, oh my God, Kimmy just asked me. And she's super cute. I'm going to totally be here Valentine. Now little Karen's like, wow. Now little Karen's had picked up this message, but it wasn't said, but this is what you heard. Speaker 1 (13:46): You're ugly. You can't get the guy. Oh, and Kimmy with brown hair and purple eyes. She's that's that's that's the ultimate cuteness. Like that's that's it. Now she's four. She goes home cries. Mom, mom fixes it. Everybody has dinner next day. You're for you, Joey and Camy. By the way, you're all besties. You're hanging out. Like nothing happened. You, you feel like you don't feel it. It was a split-second. It was a moment it's gone. It's not really gone because let me tell you what happens now. She matriculates she's in middle school and Karen has to ask a boy to a dance. It's one of those Sadie Hawkins thing. So the girls have to ask the guys. And so her and her bestie and most people at this age have faced some kind of rejection, whether it's in the girlfriend, boyfriend, lover section or, or any other part, like not getting the baseball, you know, position, whatever it is. Speaker 1 (14:34): So we understand rejection. So we're fearing a little bit and we're nervous. So it's natural. Right. And everybody will tell you that. Oh yeah. It's natural. Don't worry. Just go ask anyway. So you and your Bessie, of course, it's Kimmy go. And you're like, okay, all right, we're going to ask our guys. So Kimmy goes first. Can we ask the boy? And he's like, yeah, sure. What out? Right. So Carrie was like, yeah, I'm going to ask Tony. She goes up to Tony. She asks him. Tony was like, man, I wish I could go. But I can't. Now what Karen doesn't know is that Tony is a son of the local preacher and he's not even allowed to go to school dances. Tony is secretly actually in love with her. But he has to say no anyway, but all Karen hears, not consciously, but subconsciously because she doesn't remember five years ago, she all she hears subconsciously is yo dumb. Speaker 1 (15:19): Don't you know, you're ugly. Why you try to do this? That making a fool of yourself. You know, you can't get the guy just stop. You are not pretty. You are not enough. You can't get him just up. Okay. Underlying, underlying thought the overlying crunch thought, oh man, I can't believe it. I'm so to the point and maybe he doesn't like me, right? Like, why is it so easy for Kimmy? Why isn't it the same for me? Like, it becomes that now you can't leave Karen out. Karen's like, all right, she's going to high school. She's like, you know what? I don't even care anymore. I'm bringing to the new high school, new me, everything. She goes out, she becomes a head cheerleader. Everybody loves her. She's popular. She's gorgeous. She's smart. She's funny. She's nice to everyone. And so she's, she's the girl, there goes Joey from kindergarten. Speaker 1 (16:08): He's the captain of the football team. And you guys are of course still talking. So Hey, what up? You start dating on the outside. It it's like the ultimate thing. Like, you know, you've made it right. You've arrived. Like this is it. Like, this is everything that everybody dreams of. Right? Prom, king prom queen. We're going to do it. You know, Joey's all happy. But Karen Karen's like, dude, Tom feels weird. Why doesn't it feel right when you think he's cheating on me? Like you think like, what's going on? Like, like I know we, we look so good together. It looks, it looks like it should be perfect. This is actually everything I ever wanted since kindergarten. But I dunno. I think, I think, I think he talks about, look at, look at him, smile. Look at him, smile at that girl that just walked by. Speaker 1 (16:51): Look at him, say hi to everybody. Right? She starts going, yo crazy lady. I take taken his phone, looking at his text messages. Eventually poor Joey. Now she's creating damage and Joey, but you always like, all right, forget it. I can't, I'm done. Right. And then Karen thinks, oh yeah. That's because you're right. Your cheater, you're doing something right. And she has to solidify in her mind. What's going on? So now Karen gets smart in college. She's a psych major. She's not going to play this game. She thinks she's good. She finds herself a man, they get married. They have kids. But again, something's not right. Like it feels wrong. Like it doesn't feel good. It's supposed to feel amazing. Right. But, and then she starts picking on things like, why can't you take the garbage out? Why can't you take it on time? Why can't you put it in the bin? Speaker 1 (17:36): Right. Right. And all this weird things has nothing to do with the garbage in the bin. And it has to do with this internal, emotional strife that she can't release because she's not quite sure why she doesn't feel right. But the truth is it's because she's too ugly to get the man, this man she doesn't deserve. It's not right. He couldn't possibly be there for the right reasons because she's not good enough like that. And it plays out in this way. That's why it's important. Because every day when you wake up and you have those negative thoughts and you enter these scenarios and things come crashing into your universe, it's usually in your head, that's created it at some point or is receiving it in some way. Right. And you're being reactive, like a five-year-old to it. And you don't even know you're doing it. Speaker 1 (18:18): So if you want to have a nice, happy, easy, joyful life and wake up bounding out of bed, like if a kid on Christmas, this is the head game you got to play with yourself. It takes work. Right? No. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, just like anything else, it does take, it takes consistent effort in, in getting it done. And actually to be honest, sometimes it doesn't sometimes just the awareness of the thing makes the thing go away. But you have to remember, you have been imprinted every second of every day, since before you were even born in utero with an impression and emotion, something okay. To date. So if your brain decided to take all those impressions and make a big deal out of them, well, you're going to be undoing a lot of stuff. And that's why it's layers. That's why it's kind of like, you know, when I'm working with CEOs that are, you know, in multimillion dollar companies, and now they're about to go into something and like close to a billion and they have all this stuff going on. Speaker 1 (19:13): Or, you know, I was just talking to an athlete who started a business and he was like, I should have been so much further. And you know, and you know, we broke it down that the work that he did to become an athlete, to become an MMA fighter is not the same level of work he's doing in his business. Right. He, he, he practiced every day. He, you know, ran, kicks every day. He had people watching him, critiquing him, helping him, mold him. He spends like three hours a day in his business, but he wants it to be a superstar rocket, you know? And it's like, well, you didn't get into the octagon and fight and win your first fight by, you know, being around for three months. You've been in this business three months. But you think you should be like a millionaire, like where is that coming from? Speaker 1 (19:54): Right. So it's, it's, it's all it's, it's it's in your head. Yes. I, I understand. I get it. I get it. I do. Now let's talk about, if you have something let's say in your life that is not going maybe the way we want it to, which let's be honest. I think that happens too. Can we say everyone at some point? Oh, of course. How can we leverage our mindset to change this so we can change our results? Okay. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm going to go a little woo on you here. So it's a combination of your thoughts and your energy, right? And so you know, just to, to focus on the mindset aspect of this, you can really dig into, you know, how would I deal? You have behaved, have responded, have done something. And how did you, you do it. Speaker 1 (20:55): What's kind of the difference. And how do you step into ideal you? How do you make decisions from that higher place? Right. just taking business, you know, let's say you're going to go into, I don't know, marketing and you have to pay marketing people. Well, you, you might say yeah, that's really expensive. I'm not doing that, but higher, you might say, Hey, actually I understand the long-term game. I'm willing to wait it out to six months. It'll probably take for me to recoup money back and let's go for it. Right. I would ask the right questions and it would know the right information and it would make the right decision. Right. So, I mean, when it comes to mindset and looking around your life and finding the things that you don't like, that's the start, but now what are you kind of leaning towards and what are you pushing away from? Speaker 1 (21:41): What have you settled for? Okay. Like notice that, because a lot of times in our lives, we settle for certain things. We want this ideal image, but then we're like, oh yeah, it's okay. You know? And so look at all these things because they all add up. I mean, there's a, there's a bunch of questions you can ask yourself, but I would really just start with, where are you, where did you want to be? Why did you want to be there? That's a big question. Okay. So, you know, think about all the people that go to college at, went to college and pick a major that had nothing to do with them. Right. you know, I wanted a big house in New Jersey when I first became a lawyer because I grew up and that's what everybody had. I didn't realize I don't even want to live in New Jersey. Speaker 1 (22:25): And I don't think Jesus, you know, I mean, like it, but because it was so familiar to me, I thought that's what I should be doing. And I wanted nothing to do with it. And so it caused every time I wanted to go look at property or do something, it always fell through, it always didn't happen. Well, it was the universe saying peace woman. Like, what are you doing? Just stop. But in the, my reality in that moment, it was frustrating. Like I tried so hard trying so hard and it's not working out. Right. And it was just like but you do get the signs. I mean, I think the biggest thing is, you know, again, with no negative, you start to look at your stressors too. You start to see the common themes of what you're saying to yourself, what you're hearing and really stop. Speaker 1 (23:08): You know, one of the, one of the, another thing that I love doing is when you're really in it in the moment. And when you're super about to be reactive, you know, about the Chuck that, that coffee across the room, just throw a big red stop sign in your head. It's called a pattern. Interrupt to stop, throw the sign in your head, just see it and just stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. And just stop. Because what you're doing is actually stopping that subconscious chatter. When you do that, and that's like an immediate thing that you can do that you don't have to deal with everything that's going on around you, because sometimes you can't because it's so in your face. But as long as you stop, as long as you stop that thought pattern, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Speaker 1 (23:49): Right. That actually just practicing that alone starts to stop the mental pattern that you have going on. All you have is a mental pattern, a little talk pattern, a little, you know, little repeat on loop, right? That's what you're stopping that alone can elevate you like everybody listening to this, you know, if you think of your life right now on a scale of one to 10, 10 million, like, oh, yo upper rockstar, one being like, dude, am I still alive? Like, how am I even still here? Didn't I like do something last week. That caused me to not be here because it's so miserable, right? Like that level. Okay. So on a, on an overall one to 10 rate yourself, then do no negative and stop just the pattern. Interrupt. Stop yourself every time. You're when the, when the bar reset. Isn't fast enough. Stop. Stop, stop, stop. Speaker 1 (24:33): Stop. When the dog just, you know, somebody else's dog ran across your foot. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Stop. When a door closes on your dress, your skirt, and you're about to get stop. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Just stop. You don't even have to think any further, just stop that's at the top. Move on, do it for a week. Now again, one to 10, how do you feel rate yourself? Your number is going to go up and then your brain is going to start with this. Oh, but nothing changed. Why do I feel? But, and then you're gonna question it don't it just is. And it's actually just that easy. So excellent. That's a great exercise and very, very easy. Anyone can do that. It takes nothing. You just have to stay, say stop. Yep. And those, when that those thoughts start rushing in and we all have them every single day. Speaker 1 (25:24): Yes, we all have them. I think that's great. So now, as we start to wrap things up, what do you want the audience to take away from our conversation around mindset? Well, I mean really just the basics. I mean, the fact that it is important, you have to pay attention to it. The reason you're here, wherever that is in your life is because you didn't, maybe you didn't know, maybe you didn't care to, maybe it wasn't as bad yet, but if, if you're still trying to get to that next level, then you have to pay attention to what you're saying yourself at this level. And I don't care what level you're going to or where you're coming from. That's just it, you know, where they're coming from, coming off the streets to your next level, or you're coming from your, your $50 million company and you want to make it a hundred million. Speaker 1 (26:10): It's the same thing. You have to hear what you're saying, because it's dictating your reality period. And so it's really important. And that there's a lot of resources out there. I mean, I can give you some resources as well, but you know, there's tons of stuff out there and it really is simple. It's just, it's, it's simple and taking action and everything changes and it can change in minutes. Yeah. It's the taking action part. That's the hard part, right? Everybody can read. You can understand the action that has to happen. Let me tell you, let me just really quickly tell you that that's my too. So you have to live into the being. So let me just give you an example. So I was very athletic when I was younger. You know, I didn't work out at all. When I had my child, my child is now 12. Speaker 1 (26:52): At the time that I had to do this to myself, she was 11. And I was like, oh, I'll kind of get into that place where you still look good with clothes on, but not so much when you take them off. So I was like, maybe I should work out. And I thought, oh, this is second nature. I'll just go work out. I live on central park here. So I'll just now. And I did everything. The micro habit, the be dressed in your sleep thing, the sneaker girl, if I tell you that at some point I felt proud that I got out the front door and want a cup of coffee to come back. And that was my workout. And I had to do my own techniques myself, which is what is it? I believe like what happened? I obviously no longer believe I'm an athlete because if I did, I mean, this is easy. Speaker 1 (27:30): Right? And that's what I thought I believed consciously. Well, when I dug down to it over the past, you know, 10 or so years, my friends had been getting a little snappy with me saying things like, oh, you eat like an a-hole, you still look good and I didn't work out. So then they knew that like, how do you not work out? And, and we work out 10 hours a day and what's going on. And there was part of that, that seeped into me that was like, oh, that's right, girl, eat whatever you want. Look good. You don't, you don't need that. Right. And well, it worked for 10 years, but obviously I needed to change. And the second I realized that I was letting those things come in, that it was easier to hang out in bed that I always had tomorrow that, and I changed that core belief. Speaker 1 (28:11): And I, and I really had to dig down into why, like, I want to be the grandma who like flies through the trees on zip lines with her grandkids. I can't do that in 10 years. If I don't exercise now. Right. I had a drill into my head. Oh my God, I love running by the way. Don't really, but I love running. I love running. I love running the second I did all that stuff. Right. And it actually took overnight. That's all I did. I did it one day. I wrote down the thing. I said it to myself again and again. I said it to myself in the mirror and I was like, yo, you, you have this, like, what's wrong when you have this right now woke up the next morning. I actually ran a whole mile. Now it doesn't sound like much, but 10 years sitting on my. Speaker 1 (28:47): Pretty good. That's great. Yeah. That's nice. So it's really convincing yourself that you are the person who does the thing. If you are the person who loves to do all this weird, you know, personal development stuff, and you'd love to say stopped yourself and you've loved it. Guess what you're going to do. You're going to do it. That's it? It's that simple. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. That's such a good example. Thank you for that. Now, speaking of resources, where can people find you, your podcast? Talk about the podcast, your resources, everything else. Yeah. Awesome. I mean, you guys can go to just my name.com. So it's Kiersten franklin.com. And I don't know if you're able to put that in the description. And then the podcast is just girl on fire. So if you want to just Google girl on fire, it's unbelief B L E V network. Speaker 1 (29:36): You can find it anywhere, apple, iTunes, all that good stuff. Yeah, that's it. Yep. And D and we will have links to everything, to all of her information at podcast dot healthy, wealthy, smart.com and the show notes under this episode. And we'll have your on social media. Do you want to give a shout out to your social media handles really quick? So someone can find you really easily. That would require me to know what they are. Well, it's all on your website. Yeah, we got it. We got it. No problem. We will have, I will put them all in the show notes individually. We're good. Don't worry about it. Now, the last question I always ask everyone is knowing where you are in your life and in your career, what advice would you give to your younger self? Speaker 1 (30:29): I would tell myself that none of it is a big deal. It's not as big a deal as you think it is, you know, all that lost time on stressing out and trying to make things happen and living by force, as opposed to living as a conduit where everything's flowing through you. Massive difference. My whole life has been lived by force winning, winning, winning, getting by force. I probably could've gotten the same exact stuff, Ben, the same that, and just nice and easy, you know, massive difference in life. Let me tell you. Yeah, I was relaxed. I love it. And I've heard that several times from people guests on this podcast. So there's clearly something to that. So for all of you, new new grads out there, college kids listening, relax. And I love, can you say that again? You want to be sort of a conduit versus a forest. Speaker 1 (31:25): Can you repeat that one more time? I mean, I, you know, listen, there's two ways to manifest, right? There's the manifestor force, right? Like, like you're going to get it. You're going to get it. You're gonna do everything class. We're going to fight, fight, fight. It's by force and you're gonna get it versus actually when you open up and you let the universe and all of his power flow through you, you're going to get the same things only. It's nice and easy, right? When, when something doesn't happen or someone candles or it moves when you know that it's okay, that it's all just going to be fine. It's your life flows through you. You are a conduit. I it's true about finances, about love, about anything, right? If you, if you're having financial difficulties, right. And this is going to sound crazy, I know it's gonna be painful for some, but if you open up and you just let it flow through you, all of a sudden you're going to just have more and more and more money, right. Speaker 1 (32:15): Because it's not about you getting money. You're the conduit. So the university saying, all right, I'll throw money at you because you're giving it here. You're helping people there. You're doing this. Right. And it just, just like, love like energy. It's just things you're, you're, you're a vessel it's supposed to come through the gifts that God gave. You are not for you. They're supposed to float through you so you can help others. If that makes sense. Yes. It, and thank you for that. I love it. So Kiersten, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and spending the time with us today. I really appreciate it. Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. It's so fun. I always love seeing you. Yeah, my pleasure, my pleasure, and everyone tell the listeners out there. Thank you so much for listening. Have a great couple of days and stay healthy, wealthy and smart.

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Where are all the Albuquerque homebuyers coming from? (Transcript Snippet): " Tego: Yeah. So one thing I wanted to get to Tracy is this whole narrative. I, you know, I've been interviewed now a couple of times by the journal about the Albuquerque journal. And I appreciate that. I mean, I, you know, I, I hope I'm adding some, some value to the stories we're doing on real estate here. And one of the questions that always comes up and I heard it again on a podcast, I know I drove to grants and back the other day, and both directions, I listened to podcasts from housing economists and people like that. That's what I do for fun. Anyway. That's why I was able to do it. But you know, th this whole idea that, oh, that's the Californians came, you know, where are the buyers coming from? We keep hearing that all these people coming from? Tracy: Everybody says, oh, the Californians are all coming here and buying our, built our houses with cash, especially luxury. Tego: And we hear that from our friends, at our agents in Austin. We hear that from, I mean, it's everywhere. It's everywhere in the country. You know, the, the one person I was listening to there in Sacramento, and they're saying, well, it's all those bay area, people coming to Sacramento. Well, it's partly that, but the little, the dirty little secret, it's not even really a dirty little secret. It's just the, the reality is most of the demand that we have in our markets is coming from within, right. It's, it's not, you know, people coming from elsewhere, it's just households getting formed people, not wanting to live stacked on top of each other, in apartment buildings anymore. The lack of, of rentals. And we're gonna talk about that in a second. And, and so, you know, it's, it's whole narrative that it's, oh, it's, it's those other people coming in and stealing our affordable homes. It's like, well, no, I think you need to let that go because yeah. Okay. There's always going to be people coming in and out of markets, but you, you can't say because it doesn't, it breaks down when you realize that this is happening in every market, around the country, except New York, and except San Francisco, Tracy: They're all saying something else because people aren't flocking there, right? Yeah, exactly. Everybody else says, oh, the new Yorkers are buying all our property, or everybody from California is coming and buying our property. So yeah. We'll have to do a poll of our most recent buyers Tego at certain, and just kind of see where they're found. I mean, we know generally have a pretty good idea of a pretty good idea. I would say probably 90%, 85, 90% at least are local. Yeah. Yeah. Or there, they were in New Mexico and are coming back to New Mexico for some reason.

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In this episode, John Honerkamp talks about all things running. John Honerkamp, affectionately known as Coach John, has coached runners of all ages and abilities for more than 20 years. A graduate of St. John’s, John was an eight-time All-Big East and six-time All-East (IC4A) athlete while running for the Red Storm. He earned 12 Big East All-Academic accolades and was the youngest semi-finalist in the 800-meters at the 1996 U.S. Olympic Trials. John is deeply involved in the New York City running community. He launched the Off the Hook Track Club, a local training group based in the Red Hook neighbourhood of Brooklyn and created The Run Collective — born out of a desire to unite the running community and connect, collaborate, and celebrate all efforts from various clubs, crews, and people in the city. Today, we hear some of the mental blocks and physical issues that John often sees with his students, and how he creates milestones to motivate himself to keep running. John tells us about choosing the right shoe, when to replace them, and he gives some advice to new runners, all on today’s episode of The Healthy, Wealthy & Smart Podcast. Key Takeaways “Everyone’s a runner. Some people just choose not to run.” “You can’t change overnight.” “It takes 3 or 4 weeks to find a rhythm, sometimes even longer. Just be patient, slow down, and make sure it’s fun.” “Taking care of yourself is really important. There are a lot of little things like massage, stretching, eating right, and all these things that are small things that add up to bigger gains.” Suggested Keywords Running, Coach, Exercise, Jogging, WaterPik, Massage, Wellness, Health, To learn more, follow John at: Website:          Run Kamp Facebook:       @johnhonerkamp Instagram:       @johnhonerkamp LinkedIn:         https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhonerkamp Email:              john@runkamp.com WaterPik Power Pulse Showerhead WaterPik Water for Wellness Council Subscribe to Healthy, Wealthy & Smart: Website:                      https://podcast.healthywealthysmart.com Apple Podcasts:          https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healthy-wealthy-smart/id532717264 Spotify:                        https://open.spotify.com/show/6ELmKwE4mSZXBB8TiQvp73 SoundCloud:               https://soundcloud.com/healthywealthysmart Stitcher:                       https://www.stitcher.com/show/healthy-wealthy-smart iHeart Radio:                https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-healthy-wealthy-smart-27628927 Read the full transcript here:  Speaker 1 (00:00): Hey, John, welcome to the podcast. I'm happy to have you on. Speaker 2 (00:05): Thanks for having me. Yes. Speaker 1 (00:06): A fellow new Yorker, just over the bridge in Brooklyn. Speaker 2 (00:10): That's right. I'm a couple blocks from prospect park. So I do a lot of my running and activities and in prospect park. So I feel fortunate to have access to that space. Speaker 1 (00:20): Perfect. Perfect. So now let's talk a little bit more about you before we go on. So people know you're a run, a running coach and you've been running for the good portion of your life, but can you kind of fill in some of the gaps and let the listeners know a little bit more about kind of what led you up to where you are today in the running world? Speaker 2 (00:40): Yeah. I was fortunate to have an uncle that lived next door to me, and he was trying to lose weight and training for the marathon. Either the New York or the long Island marathon or both, this is probably like 1982, 83. And to DeVos's neighbor, he would just bring me along to some of these 5k and 10 K races. And that was kind of like in the first kind of first a second running boom. And, you know, I do the kids fun run, which to be honest, not a lot of kids were doing, it was usually about a mile distance. And then it gradually, I would, you know, after a year or two, I would, you know, take a stab at the 5k, which was a pretty far distance for seven or eight year old. But I just got exposed to running at an early age and, but not really, I mean, competitive against myself, maybe the clock, but not super serious. Speaker 2 (01:24): I did other sports, but when I w when I got to high school, when I went out for the cross country and track team, and we had a pretty good high school in sports in general. And I kind of had a leg up as far as I've been running for races for a couple of years. And I kind of had, you know, a little bit more experienced than the average freshman, but I definitely was better at running than basketball, football, baseball. I was very good on defense and I realized that equates to like, not scoring a lot of baskets, but it really annoying the other competitors where I had a good engine. And so, you know, I ran very well in high school. I got recruited and I went random, got a full scholarship to St. John's in Queens and ran there for four years. Speaker 2 (02:10): And I was fortunate enough to get better each year. And I had a really good year, my junior year and 1996, I qualified for the Olympic trials and the 800 meters. And that was also the year that the Olympics were in the U S and Atlanta. So it was just actually that kind of a perfect year. It was 20 years old. I got, I just advanced really, really well. That's, that's that's spring season dropped about four seconds of my 800, which is a pretty good chunk of time for that distance. The next thing you know, I found myself at the NCAA at the Olympic trials competing in Europe as the 22 and as a 20 year old. So that was kind of the beginning of it. And then obviously I got into professional running post-collegiate Lee. I ran for a team Reebok team based out of Georgetown university, but the legendary coach, Frank Gagliano. Speaker 2 (02:51): And I did that for a couple of years training for the trials in 2000. And in 2001, I moved and I was living in DC for those three years. And then I moved back to New York and I was still competitive. I ran for the New York athletic club, but I had to gradually kind of turned from competitive runner to not necessarily weekend warrior. I was still running a fair amount and I'm still competing, but I was focused on other things and then got into coaching and initially at running camps over the summer as a college kid, and then I coached high school was my first gig when I was coaching. When I was running professionally, I coached high school down in Virginia and then got up here in New York. And next thing I know I was coaching. I worked for the New York Roadrunners for five plus years and handled all their training and education and launched virtual training platforms where I was coaching 5,000 runners for the New York city marathon. At one time, the life I was just emailing people all the time, but it really gave me a nice quick you know, again, it's just different. I mean, there's a lot of same principles and at whatever level you're at and running, but coaching the folks that maybe aren't elite or don't have two hours to take a nap every day and do all the recovery things that we'll probably talk Speaker 1 (03:55): About are most people. Speaker 2 (03:58): Absolutely. I got a really, you know, a crash course in coaching, like the everyday adult who has two jobs and has kids and running as again, as I can sneak it in on the weekends, trying to get in before your kids get up, I'm finding I do that myself now being a father too. Yeah, so I started early and I never got burned out from it. I always had great coaches that didn't run me into the ground. And there's plenty of stories out there where kids, whatever sport we're talking about, or even other disciplines like music or dance or art or whatever, if you do too much, and it's not fun anymore, and you start not liking it. And I was able to, even though I didn't enjoy it all the time for the most part, I really enjoyed running throughout my life and at different levels of competitiveness. Speaker 2 (04:40): And and I'm very proud that I, I do, I do call myself a I've run races and stuff, but I'm not offended anymore when people call me a jogger or they asked me how my jog was. I actually realized that I was doing a lot of jogging, even when I'm at the elite level, the recovery runs were very easy paced. So I'm quite proud to be a jogger. And but yeah, that's kinda like my quick and dirty version of how I got into running and the kind of trajectory that I've been on. And again, I've been running for about 35 years and probably kosher for close to 25 at various Speaker 1 (05:12): Amazing. So you've coached, we can easily say you've coached thousands of people. Speaker 2 (05:17): Absolutely. Yeah. The technology and the online platforms recently, it does make it easier, very scalable. And you can say, yeah, Speaker 1 (05:24): Yeah, amazing. And just so people know the way John and I met was through so people who who listened to this or see me on social media, you know, that I'm part of the water Waterpik water for wellness council as is John. So they've got two new Yorkers and we're both council members. And one of the things that we have been working with is a Waterpik power, pulse, therapeutic strength, massage, shower, head, try and say that 10 times fast. But we'll talk about kind of how, how John sort of incorporates that with his runners and any benefits that they're seeing from, from switching a shower head, which is pretty easy. But before we get into all of that, John, let's talk about some of the common complaints or common issues that you're seeing with your runners. And just so people know, we spoke a little bit before we went on the air here. And the one thing I really want to hone in on first before we get to the physical things that everybody thinks of that happens with runners, but there's the mental side of it too. And sometimes that could be the more important side. So talk to me about what kind of mental blocks you're seeing from your, your students. Speaker 2 (06:40): Yeah, I mean, mentally it's it's funny because people, when they find out that I've given coaching all these years and been running and maybe I was faster and fast and slow is a relative term, but you know, competed at the Olympic trials, they're always Oh, well, you wouldn't want to coach me because I'm not a real runner or, Oh, I don't run like you. And I'm like, how do you run? You put one foot in front of the other, you leave the ground and move forward. It's very simple. And so people often have a love, hate, or just hate relationship of running because either it was a punishment for other sports growing up, we had to do laps. Oftentimes it had to do with pre-season conditioning. And if you're coming off the summer and like, you like me in high school, the first couple of years, you didn't do your homework over the summer. So you show up and you're, you know, you're out of shape and you're doing laps and it's hot. I remember that in football practice as an eighth grader, just being like miserable and like running was, was, was terrible, Speaker 1 (07:30): Especially in the Northeast when you've got the heat and the humidity and everything else. Yeah. Speaker 2 (07:34): So or they, you know, it was a gym class and they had it, they know the presidential fitness test and they had to do a time tomorrow on a terrible thing. But like, I was actually good at that because I liked running ahead at like an early traction to running. And I was doing pretty well at it, but for the most people, it was not fun. And it was just an awful experience. So whether they come to they're new to running in their adult life, or they were even if they were faster and fitter and did other sports as a, as a youngster that maybe they took 10, 20 years off based on whatever. And now they're getting back to it. And they're really the mental block of, Oh, I'm not a runner and maybe I shouldn't do this. And you know, and that is really oftentimes getting people to accept that they, that they're falsely claiming that they're not a runner when they're really just, I always say, everyone's a runner. Speaker 2 (08:22): Some people just choose not to run or they don't know how to start. So I really enjoyed that process of getting people over that mental hump, if it exists of, Hey, you're a runner I want to find out where you're at, and then we're going to take you from there to where you want to go. And you need to know where you are before, you know, where you're going. And so it's really like, I think oftentimes changing their mindset and saying, it's okay to run 10 minute miles or 12 minute miles or seven minute miles. I don't care. I like numbers and data when I'm crunching numbers about your training and maybe how you paced properly or improperly. So I'll get geeky about that. But I don't really care. I, I coach someone who runs 15 minute miles the same as I would someone coaching seven minute miles. Speaker 2 (09:01): And so it's just the mental space that they're in of, Oh, I shouldn't be here. I don't belong. I'm not really doing it right. And oftentimes they'll say, Oh, I'm not running is not for me. I get this all the time. I can't run more than a block. And I'm always like, well, what block you running up? Is it uphill at altitude when you're carrying a backpack of weights? Because probably most people could run a block and they're just running too fast. And they think of running as being painful. So that has to hurt. But to be honest, most of my training, especially for like a marathon, for example, I have a lot of first-time marathoners and most of the running is actually easy. Pace. Marathon pace is actually quite easy. It's just hard to do for 26 miles. So the barrier of like not pacing yourself or not going out too fast for a couple of minutes where they have to stop, those are quick fixes in my opinion. And that's the mental side of things. And then there's a couple of common physical issues that come up, which I can talk about for sure as well. Speaker 1 (09:54): Yeah. I know. I love the, that sort of mental barriers, because I think if we're talking about new, new to new to running folks or folks who maybe took a year, five years, 10 years off, and they're coming back to it, like you start and you think to yourself, God, it's taking me 15 minutes to run a mile. I feel like such a loser, everyone else, like, cause you hear Oh, eight minute mile, seven minute miles. Like that's where you should quote unquote, should be. If you want to run a marathon, you don't want to be running for seven hours. This is, you know what I mean? And, and I think that that's, that can be really difficult for people and kind of turn them off before they even start. So what kind of techniques do you have for someone like that who's coming to you saying, I feel like such a loser. I can only run a 15 minute mile or 18 minute mile, whatever it is. Speaker 2 (10:48): Yeah. I think I also encourage people to have a running log or a diary, which is an extra step, but it also helps you get progress. It also helps you with injury prevention and to deal with injuries when you do have them, which I'm sure we'll get into, but I often buy I'll run by minutes. So it's like today you're doing 20 minute run versus a three mile run or a five miles. So they don't honestly know how many now, if they have a GPS watch and they're tracking things, they'll know after the fact that, Oh, that was the 13 minute mile or whatever, but I'll run by minutes. So you don't, you know, and then that, I think sometimes it's a different mindset or a way of tracking where it does free you up a little bit of not having to do the three miles in 30 minutes. Speaker 2 (11:23): That's easy math. That's only 10 minutes or whatever it is. You just run for 20 minutes or whatever it is, 30 minutes, 40 minutes. And even when you get in your longer runs for longer distances, you're, you're, you're increasing by five or 10 minutes, not a full mile. Sometimes I liked that worked and that's kind of how I'd run anyway. I'll just do a 30 minute shakeout run or something and I'm not right. Especially if it's not a workout, it's a workout quality day where I'm doing six times 800 or I'm doing something like that. It'll, it'll be more important to know the pace and effort, but most of the running, just getting out there and doing it. Yeah. Speaker 1 (11:55): So it's like, you, you can accomplish that 20 minutes. You get that win and you gradually build your confidence, right? Yeah. No, that makes perfect sense. I really liked that. And I also like keeping a running log or a running diary. It's the same thing. We tell people if they want to lose weight, one of the, almost every nutritionist or dietician will tell you to keep a food diary. I do that with patients with chronic pain, I'll have them keep a pain diary so that they can kind of keep track of maybe what they did and what their pain levels were and things like that. So it doesn't work for everyone, but I think it works. Speaker 2 (12:28): I have a quick story about that when I was just just first year as a professional runner, I had all these shin problems. I got down to DC and I felt like this kind of like loser, cause everyone was just professional runners. They're all qualifying for the Olympics and trying to qualify for the Olympics. And I had shin splints. So I was like running 20 minutes by myself and I couldn't work out. And I was seeing like a, you know, PT person and I was doing exercises and just seemed like I wasn't getting anywhere. It wasn't improving. And then the PT said, Hey, you should really just monitor your pain on a scale of one to 10. And obviously you have a left shin and a right shin and both were hurting me. So I thought that was really silly and kind of stupid as a, as a 22 year old. Speaker 2 (13:05): And but I started doing it cause I had nothing else. I wasn't running riding much of my youth log. Other than I ran 20 minutes. I didn't have to take me a long to write what I did cause it wasn't a lot. So I had stuff to write about and to be honest, you know, say I had a six out of 10 or seven out of 10 was the pain level. And then all of a sudden, as I was ranking it throughout the weeks I was doing these PT exercises and, you know, strength exercises. And I'm like, are these really working kind of going through the motions? But then I did realize like one week or so in the sixes were fives and the fives were four weeks. And so I w if I didn't have that to document, I wouldn't know, I wouldn't be able to see the trend of in the right direction. Speaker 2 (13:43): So then I got more excited and I was more diligent about the exercises and I did them correctly. It was more intention. And that was really helpful because I could see progress where if I didn't have that, I would just be like, Oh, my shins hurt and not, you know, see, you know, again from five to four and everyone has their own relative scale of that, but it's just for that each person. And so that, I always tell that story. It was, I thought it was really silly, did it anyway. And it really helped me kind of snap out of that mode where I was like, wow, that really I could see progress. And I wouldn't be able to do that without having the data or the, or the documentation that I have it writing it down. So I'm a big believer in that. And I really it's, it's fun to see that you're, you're doing that with your patients as well, because that's one way to, you know, this, you can't remember everything and it's, we're all busy. Speaker 2 (14:29): And so if you can write it down and go back to it, even if they don't see the trend that you look at their, their, their diary, they might not see. And they're not going to be able to remember all these things, but if you can like read through their notes, you oftentimes, the coach will we'll pick up stuff before the athlete. And that's just like being a detective. Oftentimes I'm a detective as a coach, try to piece together. And the more information we have as coaches or detective detectives, you can get the root of the problem quicker. So document everything, it's, it's kind of like old school, but I, I can't speak more highly about that because that's really a game changer for me as a young 22 year old, but even to my athletes today. Speaker 1 (15:09): Yeah. Awesome. And now you mentioned shin splints. So let's talk about it. One of the common complaints that you get from your runners are shin splints. So as a running coach, what do you do with that? Speaker 2 (15:21): Yeah, it's funny. I was thinking about this in prep for this. And I got the same similar injuries as an elite athlete, as I do now is like weekend warrior. You know, dad, Bob jogger you know, shin splints and, and that's, shit's meds are pretty common because someone who's new to the sport either they're doing nothing. And now all of a sudden they're running 10, 20 miles a week, or they're someone who maybe was jogging and then they're training for a marathon all of a sudden, and they're upping their volume. So it's usually just an overage, an overuse issue. It can lead to stress fractures and things, a little more serious, but for the most part, if you have a good pair of shoes, which is super important, you don't need a lot of equipment, although it is getting colder here in the Northeast, and you do need to layer up a little bit, but you really just need a good pair of shoes. Speaker 2 (16:04): So that's really important and making sure that you're not doing too much too soon, because if someone is not shepherded you know, they're worried about calling themselves a runner and they get excited. If for whatever reason they get into the New York city marathon through the lottery or something, it's very easy to get overexcited and do too much too soon. And then you're kind of sitting on the sidelines. So it's really just kind of, and then I think a lot of new runners or new athletes, it's tough for them to decipher between pain and injury or soreness being uncomfortable. It's a guy I got to run through it that could lead to like, well, actually that pain is telling you something to slow down or to back off. And sometimes it is kind of navigating through aches and pains that just come with doing something new and doing it more often. So that's something that's always tough to decipher first time through, like, if you've never had shin splints, you're like, what are they? Like? You can ignore them and they don't go away and they become bigger problems. So shin splints, plantar, fasciitis, Achilles issues muscle poles it band with junk currently dealing with now my knee. Those are just kind of the common things that any runner will get, whether you're a professional at being or someone just starting out. Speaker 1 (17:13): And what are your thoughts on cadence? So oftentimes we'll all read or I'll see that if sometimes if you up your cadence and shorten your stride length when you're running that it's beneficial for some of these injuries, what are your thoughts on that? Speaker 2 (17:32): Yeah, I think if there's a chronic issue that keeps reoccurring, I definitely will kind of look at that, but oftentimes, and actually this is a good kind of tip for someone who's new to running. They often want to me to see them run the first time and like fix their form. And if they're 45 years old, like I am, you've been running for 45 years a certain way, or maybe 44 years because you didn't run as a six month old. But and my son just took his first steps this week. So that's exciting, but it's, you know, you're gonna get you, I, if you gotta get chased by a dog, you're gonna run a certain way. And so you don't need to change something you've been doing drastically, unless it's a chronic issue. That's always happening. People often say there's a breathing. Speaker 2 (18:15): How do I breathe in through the nose, the mouth? I said, however, don't even think about it. It's when you have a side cramp, that's keeps reoccurring that I tell people to kind of pay attention to that. But for the most part, don't worry about your form. Don't worry, your breathing just kind of get out there. And if it's something where you want to pass the time and count your steps, or there's some GPS devices that help you count. I really just pay attention to that. If there's something that's reoccurring, because otherwise I feel like you've been doing something and creating all this muscle memory for all these years and to drastically change form. And I often I'll hear this a lot where, Oh, my doctor told me I should run on my toes. I'm a heel striker. Well, then I see people running on their tiptoes in the park. Speaker 2 (18:55): I'm like, what are you doing? I know you can't just go from that to that. Yeah. When you run faster, you're naturally up on your toes. There's obviously certain shoes will help facilitate that. But like this, a lot of fast runners that run up their heel strikers, you don't have to be a toe runner, but I, I hear that a lot where my doctor said, or my coach or someone said on my toes and I'm like, not like a ballerina. So those are things where I think if you hear someone say, do this or work on your form, I think there's things to work on, but it's it's not something we want to change overnight because that could lead to overcompensating. And just other issues that I think people may make you maybe worse off than you were with just kind of figuring out something else, but your current form. Speaker 2 (19:37): And you can always improve things with drills and stretching and flexibility, which obviously the the power pulse therapeutic strike massage is, has helped us do. And we do even in my mid forties where I'm spitting up and spending a couple minutes a day focusing on that. But you can't change things. Even if you're 25 years old, it's still a lot of muscle memory made it. So you can't change it overnight just to be patient with that. And don't worry about it until it's kind of a problem that you see a persist, you know? Totally. Speaker 1 (20:07): Yeah. And you mentioned shoe selection. So this is always a question that I get as a PT. I'm sure you get it all the time, multiple times a week or hundreds of times a season, what shoes should I get? What sneakers should I get? And everyone wants to know what brand, what this would that. So what is your response to, what shoe do I get? Do you get, do you have like some guidelines to follow or what do you tell your, your athletes and your runners? Speaker 2 (20:34): Yeah, that's, you're absolutely right. I get that a lot. And it's really, I always tell folks, there's like, you know, everyone knows they're running brands, you know, there's new balance, Nike, this Brooks, you know, they all Saccone Mizuno, Hoka is on. Elena is new on running as a new, at a new company out of Switzerland. All those shoes will have the gamut. They'll have super neutral shoes, neutral being like you don't, you have a high arch, you don't need a lot of support. They have kind of the middle of the road where you have some support, some cushion, then you have like, you know, the Brooks base, for example, it's called the Brooks beasts or the new balance nine nineties. They're, they're meant for heavy duty. You know, someone might have a flat foot. And so there's the whole gamut. So there's usually, there's a shoe that's in that line. Speaker 2 (21:24): That's going to work for you. And you might not know that. And I was people tell people to go to a running store if they can, because, and they get intimidated by the Wallace shoes and they go for the pretty ones, oftentimes, but every shoe brand will have the same kind of like kind of small, medium, large, or they'll have the categories of neutral cushion all the way to really support and really corrective shoes and some shoes that are going to fit certain feet better. You know, and I've done some brand work for my business where I'm affiliated with a certain brand and I have to wear those. I'm always hoping that I can wear those and they're going to keep me healthy. But even when I'm repping those brands, I'll say, I don't, you don't have to wear the shoe that I'm wearing, even though I'm getting paid by that company to do various things, the shoe companies should want you to be healthy because then you can run and do more and more. Speaker 2 (22:12): So you know what one or two shoes might brands might work better for your foot? And some shoes are just run bigger. Some run wider as far as the shoe brands, but if you'd like a certain brand, historically, that's what you will and others haven't. But try on a bunch, take notes, document how you feel in them, but that every, every shoe company will have something for you. It's just going into a shoe store or doing some research of asking questions. And I was people that always afraid to go into a running store. They're there for mainly for beginner runners, because once you're like me and you know what you like, you just, you can, you can either get it from the store or you order it online shoes. I it's, you know, and obviously if I work for the new brand, I need to kind of re if I have to familiarize myself with different options, but it's really, I can't tell you, I mean, I can look at your foot and kind of see, okay, you're have a wide foot, you have no arch. Speaker 2 (23:06): You probably need a supportive shoe, but that's not like a blanket thing. You know, you also look at the wear of people's shoes from previous shoes and you can see where they're wearing down and I'm a podiatrist. But again, back to being a detective, you can, if you can look at things and say, but even my neighbor, the other day was like, what shoes should I wear? I don't like these they're too squishy. I'm like, well, you probably need a little bit more support. They're probably not too soft for you. Sure enough. I gave him the middle of the road running and these are great. It's also probably, I don't know how old the ones he was wearing were. So that's another problem. You go to the running store, you try on something a, maybe you're wearing heels all day at work, and then you go and try this awesome shoe on it's fluffy, and it's great. Speaker 2 (23:45): Then you go home and run out on a couple of times. And it's like, ah, maybe this is rubbing me the wrong way. I'm getting a blister. And oftentimes there's also the sizing. If you're a size 10 dress shoe, you might be a 10 and a half running shoe. And I'm someone who actually is 10 and a half in dress shoe and running shoe. But some of my spikes and performance shoes like flats and more racing shoes made it might've been a 10 because you actually want them either. So those are some other things to kind of think about sizing. Speaker 1 (24:13): What is the, what is the running, the mileage that you put on your sneakers before it's recommended to change? Speaker 2 (24:21): Yeah. I think the industry says the two 50 to 500, which is a big range. So it also, it depends on how often you're running, what surfaces, if you're running on the treadmill every day, then obviously you're probably getting less wear and tear than if you're running on the trails, getting them all dirty and stuffing them up on rocks and stuff like that. So, I mean, I would say close to the, and sometimes people say, I'll just say you should get shoes depending how much you're running like two a year. If not more, if some people would wear the same shoes for three years, I'm like, you probably be, yeah. So you need to invest in that, put that on your, on your shopping lists for the holidays or whatever. But I mean, I'll, and I also do this where I don't wait for the one pair of shoes to kind of run out, especially if I, if I like a shoe and I'm especially to train for a marathon, I might be, I might have one pair of shoes for a couple of weeks. Speaker 2 (25:09): I'll get another pair of shoes and I'll start alternating them. Actually one gets cycled out because you kind of know, people often say, how do you know, well, your knees start hurting more. You shouldn't start hurting more and it's not an injury. It's just more of an achy soreness and that's usually stuff. And also I get much more motivated when I put new shoes on you kind of like, you're more anxious to get out there and you know, you do have to break them in sometimes depending on what type of shoe they are. And, you know, I would just jump in, in a marathon without breaking in those shoes. But I mean, I've heard, I would say two 50 or 300, I feel better about, but I've read and I've seen, you know, up to 400 to 500, which is a little higher than I liked, but depending on what type of running you are and how hard you are on the shoes and what surfaces you, you, you could last, but definitely I think, you know, more than one pair of shoes for sure for the year. Yeah. Speaker 1 (25:59): Great, great, excellent advice. And now before we start to kind of wrap things up, what I'd love to hear is maybe you have a new runner, right? Because the majority of people, like we said, let's be honest, are more recreation. Runners are not professional runners. They might be new to running, or they're running after a little bit of a break. So if you could give that runner who you've probably seen thousands of times what would your top three tips be for those new runners? Speaker 2 (26:34): I would say, give it have some patience. It's like, you know, again, even if your S your pace is too fast at first block and you're stopping, you know, I always said, like, it takes three or four weeks to kind of find a rhythm sometimes even longer. So just be patient slow down, make sure it's fun. Whether that's, you know, I love the running community here in New York. It's so vast. It's actually a card to keep track of all the things that are going on. And even if you're in a smaller city, it's usually like their local running store and there's, there's, you know, you go get a beer or coffee afterwards. It's a great community sport. Cause it's, there's a lot of, there's a lot less barriers involved in entering the sport and you can also be a Walker everyone's kind of invited to the party. Speaker 2 (27:13): So, so yeah, I would say, you know, give it time patients make it fun, make it community oriented. Although I do my best thinking and problem solving when I'm running by myself. So definitely, you know, you don't always have to make it about a group training, but that's something that I think it's a great way, appreciate and meet new people in a new city and then take care of yourself. I think don't ignore the things that bother you get good shoes. I mean, my number one, when people are injured, come to me, they often come to me almost too late where it's, so their pain is so bad and their Shannon or their knee, Speaker 1 (27:45): Then they're thinking I should get a coach. Like that's the impetus for them to get a coach. Speaker 2 (27:49): So you're like, you know, take care of yourself. And to be honest, this might be a good segue for what we're talking about, because my first line of defense is go see a massage therapist because massage throughout my running career is like, you know, you go to a doctor and they say, it hurts when I run, they're going to say, don't, don't run. It's like my mom said back in the day, mama hurts when I do this. Okay, don't do that. That's kind of, that's often, but some doctors will say like, Oh, that's bothering. You just don't do it. Well, we want to do it. We want to be active. We want to keep doing it. So taking care of yourself is really important. And there's a lot of little things like massage and stretching, eating, right. And all of these things that are small things that really add up to bigger gains. And it's, it's fun to, to improve at it. You know, I mean, I'm never going to run a PR again because I ran faster than my youth, but I have, I have to make up goals now, like fastest mile as a dad. You know, whatever. So if these are all things that I have to kind of reinvent to kind of give me the motivation to get out there, but the self hair, the self-care piece is super important and often neglected. Speaker 1 (28:52): Yeah. And that self care involves sleep, recovery, nutrition. I think the massage, and like I said earlier, we're both on the Waterpik water for wellness council. And one of the, a couple of things that they're, and again, power pulse, therapeutic strength, massage, shower, head a couple of things that they have actually been shown that clinically shown to provide, like to help soothe muscle tension, to increase flexibility and to improve restful sleep. So the way I look at it as a PT, and I'm sure you may say the same as a run coach. Like we like to keep the risk continuum a little bit more on the reward side and a little less on the risk. Right. So if you can recommend things for people that have less risk and more reward, great. And if you can recommend things to people that are economical. Great. And I think that that's where that the power pulse massage shower kind of comes in along with, like you said, seeing massage therapists one of the things that I'm so glad that you mentioned is about the community oriented part of running. Cause I think a lot of people think that if you're running, you're just running on your own. Speaker 2 (30:21): Right. And then that's been the biggest challenge for me. It's just my own running is I've actually, I've been running 60. I usually run five or six days a week and it's done a lot of mileage cause it's, you know, being a dad and, you know, jogging stroller and whatnot. But I was running the same amount of times per week, but I was running and say 30 miles a week. And then I was running like 20 and I'm like, how am I running less? You know, I have more time to one degree. And I wasn't like, I would actually often rely on, especially for longer runs is to go to prospect park, which is very well trafficked with runners. And I know a lot of runners, so I, I usually run into people. I know. And then we go, we can, we run a mile or two or add on, and I didn't have that because everyone was running alone or, and so I was like, Oh, I'm not getting that extra motivation or, Hey, Hey, Karen run into Karen and we do an extra three miles because we're talking way and catching up. Speaker 2 (31:07): And so that's something that the community piece to that my mileage is that definitely I mean, I since realized that and, and try to pay attention to doing a little bit more, but I'm like, how am I running last? I'm still running six days a week. And that was the number one thing that I was different was I didn't have the buddies and I was running by myself all the time and that you weren't casually running into people and adding on. So but yeah, I think, and everyone says, you can run with people. It's just doing it safely. Yeah. Certain protocols. So it's just, and some of that was new in the beginning. And so, but there's definitely been a second kind of volt. Second, third, fourth, depending on who you talked to like many running boom, because gyms were closed and other things, so you have less, you know, nature get outside, walk run. So I guess a lot of more questions from new runners, especially neighbors because they're out there running and they knew, Oh, this guy runs on the block all the time and he must know something and all the questions that we went over already getting those. So it's you know, as far as silver linings to some of this stuff, that's going on. Speaker 1 (32:08): And now before we finish, I have one last question for you. And it's when I ask all of my guests. So knowing where you are now in your life and in your career, what advice would you give to your younger self? So maybe that 20 year old at the Olympic trials in 1996, what advice would you give to that kid? Speaker 2 (32:30): Yeah, well, I mean, back then running, talk about love. Hey, like it was so nerve wracking once I got the certain levels. And even that I ran the 800 meters, which is arguably one of the toughest events in track and field, they say the 400 hurdles experts today, the 400 hurdles and the 800 meters are the toughest. I think the 10,000 meters on the track is twenty-five laps. That that's hard puzzle to me because the hard I can't do it to cath on and heptathlon is all these different things. I think those are harder, but as far as the body and the body makeup that that event is kind of in between speed and endurance. And so but it, it just was so nerve wracking at the, at, when I got to that age, in that level, that running was and if I was running well and healthy, the world is great, but there was times where running was not so fun and I was sick or I was injured. Speaker 2 (33:21): And so I guess I would probably say, you know, it's tough to say, don't take yourself too seriously because I was training for the Olympics and it's really scary, really focused. But and actually, I, I, once I stopped competing, I actually took on a couple of years off where I don't even know how much I was running maybe once a week. And I definitely got out of the Cape. And I think when I was like maybe mid to early thirties, I got reengaged that there was a local team that needed some people to run for. And I kind of said, all right, I'll help out. And then I was kind of needed again, it felt somewhat relevant, but then the community of that as well, the peer pressure in a positive way got me into the fold. And I actually got, was able to get pretty fit again in my mid thirties. Speaker 2 (33:58): But it was one of those things where I did it to be really good. And then once that was no longer the goal, it was like, why do it, and sort of, it's a little bit of a gap there that, you know, probably mentally and physically, it was good to have because, you know, I get healthy and kind of cleared my head a little bit, but I wish I didn't take that long of a gap because there was only one reason to do it was to get fast, to win races, to make limpic teams. And as we all know now, and I know now is there's many reasons to run released best, you know, be competitive with yourself, you know, have be part of a community. See nature. Even though I started one of these things recently where I took a bunch of runners to to Ireland and I called it a run location and we spent four days and you actually can explore a lot of people. Speaker 2 (34:40): I coach where they're training for the marathon, we'll say, Oh, I can't, I can't run these two weeks. I'm going to be on vacation. I'm like, well, tell me more about this vacation. And it turns out that, like I had someone run on a cruise ship once and they actually sent me their GP. I'm like, there's probably a track on the, on the cruise trip. It's probably not that exciting, but don't say you have to take two weeks off. I would kind of like a little tough love there. And someone, I think of some woman sent me, she was going across the Atlantic to like Norway and her GPS was over the water, three 30 pace per mile. And it said she ran like 50 miles would showing around like 10. Oh. Because she was more like, not trying to get out of running. She was just like, Oh, I have to, I'm on vacation. Speaker 2 (35:19): I can't run. And I was like, you can make it a part of your everyday, regardless of where you go and you often can see more on foot then. So it's one of these things that would just I don't know, you can make it part of your life or it's not such this arduous thing and horrible thing. It, most of the time it could be pretty pleasant and fun. And I mean, I don't, I don't knock myself too much for being so serious about it, but I wish I didn't. I let myself off the hook a little bit and when I was younger and enjoyed it more and didn't take it so seriously all the time, even though there's reasons for that. Speaker 1 (35:50): Yeah. Oh, I think that's great. I think that's great advice to your younger self and John, where can people find you? What's your website? Where are you on social media? How can they get in touch? If they have questions they want to work with you, they want to learn more about Speaker 2 (36:02): The programs you have. Yeah. My, of a website is run camp and that's R U N K a M P. And I'm spelling incorrectly because my last name is Hunter camp with a K. Yeah. So nice play on words. Yeah. So run camp, you know, and you know, it's all things running, whether a training for a race or just getting fit or travel in this case, once we can travel again. And then my Facebook and Instagram is just John Hunter camp. My name's spelled so you can find me that way. And then email me a john@runcamp.com. If you have any questions, you, you know, you want to get ahold of me for any reason, I'd be happy to chat and help you through your training journey as, as you see fit. And as, as, as you see necessary. Speaker 1 (36:41): Perfect. And of course we will have the links to everything at the podcast and the show notes for this episode at podcast at healthy, wealthy, smart.com. So, John, thanks so much for giving us a little bit of your time today. I really appreciate it. Speaker 2 (36:57): Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to join. You're happy to do this again and stay in touch even though we're so close so far. Speaker 1 (37:03): I know, I know just over the Brooklyn bridge but thanks so much for coming on and everyone else. Thanks so much for tuning in, have a great couple of days and stay healthy, wealthy and smart.  

Todo buen cuento necesita alguien quien lo cuente. Carmen se ha dedicado a descubrir las historias de inmigrantes Salvadoreños en Nueva York de los últimos 90 años. Y está a punto de publicar su libro: Salvi Yorkers. Así que agarren sus libretitas de periodista, su curiosidad y prepárense para contar nuestras historias con Carmen Molina-Tamacas. Carmen Molina Tamacas es una periodista salvadoreña que vive en Nueva York desde casi 10 años. En El Salvador trabajo desde 1994 en periódicos como La Prensa Gráfica, El Mundo, El Diario de Hoy y a colaborado con medios digitales como El Faro, Factum y Revista Escultural. Por unos cuatro años ha sido periodista freelance de El Diario, el periódico hispano más importante de la Ciudad de Nueva York y otros de noticias hiperlocales como Brooklyner. Estudio Antropologia, ha publicado artículos académicos sobre la historia del periodismo cultural y digital salvadoreño y está por publicar un libro sobre los inmigrantes salvadoreños en Nueva York. Creciendo durante la guerra Vida cotidiana en la capital Education para ser Agente transformador  Trabajando en Prensa Grafica “El fin de la guerra no trajo el fin de problemas” De architectura a periodismo por culpa de la matemática De bachiller director a trabajar Para qué estudiar? 2000 - abren carreras de la cultura archeologia, antropologia, historia En Universidad Tecnológica y cierran en 2019 Se quebró la infraestructura socioeconómica durante la guerra Muchos vacíos, investigación en temas de ciencia y cultura  Joya de Ceren, la Pompei de America Ciberperiodismoen Iberoamérica por Ramón Salaverría Buscando mejores oportunidades en Nueva York El Diario, 100 anos de noticias de hispanos Trabajando por The Weather Channel Temas de centro américa vs temas de latinos Aprendiendo de los Dominicanos  Becoming Latina Buscar que significa ser un Salvadoreño-Americano Si no vota, no joda Micro iniciativas internacionales produciendo resultados concretos Pazitos Mario Arevalo American Dreaming - Immigrant Life in the Margins by Sarah J Mahler Salvadorans In Suburbia - Symbiosis and Conflict by Sarah J Mahler Etnografía de salvadoreños migrantes en Brentwood y Hempstead, New York - Jorge Arturo Colorado Berríos; Edward Gonzales Junior - These Days La necesidad de documentar Monica Martínez - Senadora  El pueblo Salvadoreño polarizado impide desarrollo político 90 años de historia - Salvadoreños en Nueva York Perdiendo el vínculo al Salvador Show resources: www.salviyokers.com Salvi Yorkers en Amazon Salvi Yorkers en Amazon (Kindle Edition) https://www.instagram.com/salviyorkers/ https://www.instagram.com/carmenmt347/ Ciberperiodismoen Iberoamérica por Ramón Salaverría (libro gratis) American Dreaming: Immigrant Life on the Margins by Sarah J Mahler Salvadorans in Suburbia: Symbiosis and Conflict by Sarah J Mahler Music: Salvi Nacion by Crooked Stilo Share your thoughts: Leave a comment below Share show on social media Leave review on iTunes Subscribe!

Two shows very worth watching, the show about this weird telepathic boy who exorcises ghost and a group of immature wealth new Yorkers with hectic lives

Dan Zajac owner of Precision Mobile Auto Detailing has been in business since 2015. He services all of Erie County specializing in high-end auto detailing and ceramic coatings. In this podcast episode we talk about how got his business on the #1 page in google search for his category. He did this completely on his own and he tells how. Dan has created his own content for his social media page including videos. He talks about how he did that and how anyone can do it. Dan loves what he does. His passion for his craft shows in the time and attention to detail in every vehicle, treating it like it was his own. Dan was awarded 2018 Best Detailed at the Orchard Park Lions Club Car Show for the work he did on a 1977 Chevy Corvette. ALSO a BONUS tip for us western new Yorkers; Dan talks about how to get Salt out of our car during the winter.

Think you’re safe from terrorism now that we’ve won the battle over Caliphate land? Think again. U.S.-backed attacks are on the verge of seizing the last shred of ISIS territory in Baghouz, Syria. The limping men, veiled women and weeping children dragging their belongings behind them are described as ‘surrendering’. But, angry and defiant, they refuse to admit the defeat of ISIS. Hear one woman’s story of how she had to leave her husband behind because he insisted on fighting ‘til the end and how she still plans to raise her five children to become jihadists. Meanwhile, Al Qaeda is poised to capitalize on the moment and reclaim its dominant position in the global jihadist movement. While the U.S. was focused on ISIS, during the past five years, Al Qaeda has been learning from ISIS’ mistakes and is about to take advantage of the loose stockpiles of weapons and territory the U.S. has abandoned. Ironically, as the Caliphate is closing, a new development in Manhattan, Hudson Yards, is opening. A large complex of apartments, offices, shops and restaurants – its existence was inspired by 9/11 and the need to protect New Yorkers from another attack. Perhaps, it is just in time…

With no England to cover we start with the South Africa - Sri Lanka Test match and give our take on the upcoming world cup.We also give an update on the Team Name for the new LMS team and start our player profiles with ourselves, discussing which professional players we aspire to be.In our getting into cricket segment we talk equipment - the essentials you need to get going.Our terminology busting section is back discussing Yorkers and that section gets a name too!Follow us on twitter: @weotspodcast

In this episode, Genevieve concludes her rant against squatters with the completion of the tale of K flava the toothless wonder who set up residence in her bathtub and reminisces about her love affair with the beverage Four Loko.

Talking about this Cavs/ knicks game.... I air out Kevin Knox comments on saying fans aren't real new Yorkers cuz we want the team to lose.... I give it up ya'll so tune in --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/diehardknicks/support

Joe and Amy Alton return home to South Florida after almost two weeks in Montana, Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming! While they were in Grand Teton National Park, everyone was wondering why it was so hazy. Well sure enough, it was smoke from hundreds of miles away in California. Evidence of smoke has actually gone as far as New York City, yes, new Yorkers, it’s not just smog, at least right now, it’s smoke from the coast, the west coast, that is! Find out more about wildfires and how to create a defensible space that will give your property the best chance to survive. For your family, though, the best chance is by getting out of Dodge! Also, an upcoming book by Joe Alton MD will address infectious disease, antibiotics, and their use in austere settings such as the aftermath of disasters, remote locations, ocean voyages, and other situations where modern medical help is not on the way. In addition, Dr. Alton discusses some of the uses for the popular antibiotic Keflex, aka Cephalexin. All this and more on the Survival Medicine Hour with Joe and Amy Alton, aka Dr. Bones and Nurse Amy! Follow the Altons on twitter @preppershow, Facebook at their Doom and Bloom page, and Youtube at DrBones NurseAmy channel! If you like this show, please share on social media. Also, check out Nurse Amy's entire line of medical kits and supplies at store.doomandbloom.net...

Joe and Amy Alton return home to South Florida after almost two weeks in Montana, Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming! While they were in Grand Teton National Park, everyone was wondering why it was so hazy. Well sure enough, it was smoke from hundreds of miles away in California. Evidence of smoke has actually gone as far as New York City, yes, new Yorkers, it’s not just smog, at least right now, it’s smoke from the coast, the west coast, that is! Find out more about wildfires and how to create a defensible space that will give your property the best chance to survive. For your family, though, the best chance is by getting out of Dodge! Also, an upcoming book by Joe Alton MD will address infectious disease, antibiotics, and their use in austere settings such as the aftermath of disasters, remote locations, ocean voyages, and other situations where modern medical help is not on the way. In addition, Dr. Alton discusses some of the uses for the popular antibiotic Keflex, aka Cephalexin. All this and more on the Survival Medicine Hour with Joe and Amy Alton, aka Dr. Bones and Nurse Amy! Follow the Altons on twitter @preppershow, Facebook at their Doom and Bloom page, and Youtube at DrBones NurseAmy channel! If you like this show, please share on social media. Also, check out Nurse Amy's entire line of medical kits and supplies at store.doomandbloom.net...

The team is joined again by brilliant musician Anya Marina, and also stand out comedian Seaton Smith. Smith talks starring in Mulaney, crazy new Yorkers, and telling jokes to millennial’s. Sam is the kid and Machi bombs. If you’re a comic or a comedy nerd this is a very important episode! @keepingjoe @sammorril @joemachi @philmhanley @nyccomedycellar @anya marina @seatonsmith

Neighborhood parks are the focal point of many communities.  Kids frolic in playgrounds, people read on shaded benches, or simply meet and converse with their neighbors.  As part of WFUV's Strike a Chord campaign, we're focusing our attention on neighborhood parks, including the people who help keep them vibrant. 

(February 4, 2011) Dr J and Todd Wilken meet on Issues, Etc. to discuss Barbara Bush's recent statement in support of New Yorkers for Equality and the tactics used by the marriage redefinition crowd to silence discussion of the consequences.

Well Well Well... 2rb is Back! He said he's feelin' kinda dirty and we are snowed in over here in NY. So enjoy this filthy mix that we through together and for my fellow Yorkers..... Enjoy the snow also! Track list: 1. Paramore - Crush Crush Crush (Mattz Club Remix) 2. Martin Solveig - One 2 3 Four (MS Club VOX Mix) 3. Sir G VS Dj Sake - 2 Sprits (Extended) 4. Faithless - Sun To Me (Guiboratto Remix) 5. House Amigos MelleeFresh - Sleazy Bitch 6. Billie Newton Davis VS Deadmau5 - Outta My Life (Touch Mix) 7. Digital Freq - Disco Falls 8. Dim Chris & Thos Gold - Self Control (Laurent Wolf & Anthony Wick Remix) 9. GiGi Agostino - Bla Bla Bla (DJ G Ross Electro Remix) 10. The Mobb - Here We Go (Club Mix)