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American television producer, television and film writer, and author

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Business Wars
Netflix and the Fall of Television | The Mouse Strikes Back | 2

Business Wars

Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2025 37:53


After Netflix poaches Shonda Rimes, one of the most successful television producers on ABC, a Disney-owned network, Disney decides it can't just sit back and let Netflix keep eating into their market share. Disney CEO Bob Iger decides that Disney is going to launch its own streaming service, Disney+, in 2019. With its strong brand loyalty and vast library of content, Disney seems poised to give Netflix a run for its money. But upending its entire business model is complicated and a messy leadership transition adds even more drama to Disney's attempt to dominate streaming. Be the first to know about Wondery's newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Business Wars on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Experience all episodes ad-free and be the first to binge the newest season. Unlock exclusive early access by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App or on Apple Podcasts. Start your free trial today by visiting wondery.com/links/business-wars/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Daily Success Show with Jamila Payne
Revenue without the rollercoaster: A guide to creating predictable income in business

Daily Success Show with Jamila Payne

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2025 24:14


You didn't start your business to be broke. And you work too hard for your revenue to feel like Shonda Rimes latest mystery series, The Residence. It's the perfect time of year to look at what's really going on with your income.  If you're holding your breath at the end of every month hoping a payment lands in time—this episode is your wake-up call and a recipe for your way out. Because predictable revenue isn't luck. It's a system. This week's episode of the Breadwinning Business Women podcast is your no-fluff guide to creating consistent income—even if your business has felt like a financial rollercoaster lately. Here's what we're unpacking together:

Call It What It Is
Call It with Geena Davis

Call It What It Is

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2024 53:47


How dare they not give the queen that is Geena Davis a throne to sit on when she was on Grey's? Jessica and Camilla are joined by the legendary actress as she spills how she got crafty to fix that problem, praises Shonda Rimes' vision on set and celebrates the power of being a badass female. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PopaHALLics
PopaHALLics #124 "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Pop, Love, & Understanding?"

PopaHALLics

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2024 27:51


PopaHALLics #124 "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Pop, Love, & Understanding?Multiverse mayhem, bodice-ripping romance, and female comedians! Dueling Joel Edgertons! Music by a rising young singer/songwriter and a crafty popsmith of old! Steve and Kate return with a little something for everyone. Streaming:"The Boys in the Boat," Prime. George Clooney directed this fact-based movie about the University of Washington rowing team's quest to compete in the 1936 Berlin Olympics. Joel Edgerton plays their coach."Dark Matter," Apple TV+. A college professor (Edgerton again) finds himself abducted into an alternate version of his life in this sci-fi thriller. Can he find his way back to his family and save them from, in essence, himself?"Loot," Apple TV+. Season 2 finds Maya Rudolph's super-rich character still ineptly trying to do good. The comedy has more of a focus this time on side characters, who turn out to be weird in a funny way."Hacks," Max. In this smart, blistering, yet intimate comedy, legendary Vegas comedian (Jean Smart) is paired with an entitled,  unemployable young writer (Hannah Einbinder) in the hopes of revitalizing both's careers."Bridgerton," Netflix. Season 3 of Shonda Rimes' period bodice-ripper finds possible romance between dweeb-turned-hunk Colin Bridgerton (Luke Newton) and secret gossip columnist Penelope Featherington (Nicola Coughlan).Books:"Night Train" and "All My Colors" by David Quantick. An Emmy-winning TV writer ("Veep") writes clever horror novels. "All My Colors" is like a great lost "Twilight Zone" episode: When no one else remembers a bestselling book, a writer with no talent churns it out—and bad things start happening. In the surreal, gory "Night Train," a woman wakes up on a train speeding through the darkness with no idea who she is or what she's doing there. She heads for the front of the train, with each railroad car more nightmarish than the last.Music:Our hosts are listening to very different pop artists. Kate's enjoying breakout singer/songwriter Chappel Roan ("Pink Pony Club," "Femininomenon"), while Steve's humming Nick Lowe tunes like "Cruel to Be Kind" and "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, & Understanding" thanks to a reissue of his 1979 LP "Labour of Lust." Both are on our latest playlist!Click through the links to watch, read, and listen to what we're talking about.

The Spill
The Suspicious Detail In Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher's Big Return

The Spill

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2024 19:59


This week Shonda Rhimes was asked which leading man from her many TV shows (Grey's Anatomy, Private Practice, Scandal, and Bridgerton just to name a few) she'd like to hook up with and people are not happy with her answer. Plus, months after writing letters of support for a former co-star and convicted rapist, then apologising for it, Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher have made a return to the public eye. But there's a suspicious detail in the photos. THE END BITS Subscribe to Mamamia Listen to more episodes of The Spill here. And find us on Instagram here.  Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message, and one of our Podcast Producers will come back to you ASAP. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We're listening. Email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au WANT MORE? Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia... https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Subscribe to The Spill Newsletter... https://mamamia.com.au/newsletter CREDITS Hosts: Laura Brodnik & Em VernemProducer: Taylah Strano Audio Producer: Scott Stronach Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Doctor Vs Comedian
Best of DvsC: Accents & Apu /Medical ‘Miracles' & Doctor Distrust

Doctor Vs Comedian

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2024 42:43


For the next few weeks, the guys will be re-airing some of their favourite episodes from our archives.   In today's episode, after a bit of listener mail about Ali's love of Shonda Rimes (1:00), the guys discuss the issue of actors faking accents on movies and TV shows (2:09). Ali discusses Rizwan Manji from Schitt's Creek and Aziz Ansari. Ali even discusses how he originally auditioned for the role of Ray Bhutani on Schitt's Creek and his own experience with using an accent in roles. We also discuss the case of Paul Sun-Hyung Lee on Kim's Convenience. They then discuss “The Problem with Apu”, the documentary by Hari Kondabolu, and Hank Anzaria. They discuss the historical example of Peter Sellers and “The Party”. Ali then talks about Hank Azaria's recent appearance on “Armchair Expert” with Dax Shepard and Hank's apology to South Asians. Then, Asif talks about so-called ‘miracle cures' in medicine and his contempt of practitioners who peddle them (21:19).  Ali then counters with the question of whether patients seek miracle cures because of a distrust of doctors and the medical system. They then discuss how distrust of the medical system can affect health outcomes and touch on the issue of race and its relation to medical distrust (and discuss Michael Che from Saturday Night Live). Asif then discusses what the medical community can do to improve trust.   The opinions expressed are those of the hosts, and do not reflect those of any other organizations. This podcast and website represents the opinions of the hosts. The content here should not be taken as medical advice. The content here is for entertainment and informational purposes only, and because each person is so unique, please consult your healthcare professional for any medical questions.   Music courtesy of Wataboi and 8er41 from Pixabay   Contact us at doctorvcomedian@gmail.com   Follow us on Social media: Twitter: @doctorvcomedian Instagram: doctorvcomedian   Show Notes Schitt's Creek Actor Rizwan Manji Doesn't Regret Giving His Character an Accent :https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/12/schitts-creek-ray-rizwan-manji-south-asian-accent Hank Azaria feels he should apologize for Apu 'to every single Indian person in this country': https://www.kezi.com/content/national/574196012.html?ref=012: Armchair Expert Podcast with Hank Azaria: https://armchairexpertpod.com/pods/hank-azaria The Problem with Apu:https://gem.cbc.ca/media/documentary-specials/episode-39/38e815a-010f377caad Do You Trust the Medical Profession? By Dhruv Khullar : https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/upshot/do-you-trust-the-medical-profession.html Measuring Patients' Trust In Physicians When Assessing Quality Of Care: https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.23.4.124 Linking primary care performance to outcomes of care: https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?v=2.1&it=r&sw=w&id=GALE%7CA21215648&prodId=AONE&authCount=1&u=nysl_me_weillmdc&selfRedirect=true Understanding and Ameliorating Medical Mistrust Among Black Americans https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/2021/jan/medical-mistrust-among-black-americans Bad Medicine: The Harm That Comes From Racism: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/upshot/bad-medicine-the-harm-that-comes-from-racism.html Austin Frakt Harriet A. Washington: Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans From Colonial Times to the Present: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/185986/medical-apartheid-by-harriet-a-washington/

PM Mood
Cruel Summer

PM Mood

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2023 20:26 Transcription Available


4 indictments. Over 90 charges. Donald Trump is a mob boss. Shonda Rimes couldn't write a drama this juicy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nerdy Romantics Podcast

Subscriber-only episodeMy group of guests continue discussing the limited series inspired by Bridgerton, Queen Charlotte: A Bridgerton Story in this part 2 episode.  We talk relationships, story-building, and give it a Good reads rating among other topics.As in all of our review chats, there are spoilers of the series and the books (Bridgerton, S1-S2; Queen Charlotte: A Bridgerton Story novel by Julia Quinn & Shonda Rimes), so watch the series first (and read the book) if you don't want to be spoiled.We talked about:What we liked about the relationships between the charactersWhy Queen Charlotte is, so far, better than BridgertonShonda Rhimes storytelling technique and signature touchesOur Goodreads rating for the seriesThe Accidental Swipe is a steamy contemporary romance with a couple of jaded lovers, online dating hijinks, and a few fun Golden Girls references. Add it to your Goodreads want to read list, and subscribe to my newsletter to keep up with the latest on this fun story with HEA included!Contact Nerdy Romantics Podcast: https:// nerdyromanticspodcast.com for show notes Get a FREE romance eBook when you subscribe to my newsletter. Follow me on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok Get premium episodes in your email or in your podcast feed. Have a show idea? Want to be on the show? Find out how at https://nerdyromanticspodcast.com/contact Thank you for listening!

Queerly Recommended
Netfux: Hot and Messy (QR 060)

Queerly Recommended

Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2023 39:35


Greetings, stranger! Have you heard tell of this new literary hero? This publishing world pugilist? His very words conjure riches. Bigolas Dickolas Wolfwood is his name. Would you like to hear more? Well then, come. Sit! Warm yourself by the fire and listen for a spell. It's a tale as old as time. A story of anime and sapphic science fiction and…the internet! Official Recommendations From Kris: Queen Charlotte (Netflix) This week, Kris recommends Queen Charlotte, the prequel to creator Shonda Rimes' Bridgerton. The main plot revolves around Queen Charlotte's rise to power from a young age, and while that "would be interesting enough," according to Kris, the real gem of the piece is the relationship between the royalty's secretaries, Brimsley and Reynolds. You know Kris doesn't recommend anything without chemistry, and these two have it. From Tara: How to Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone Some of us are called. Others are chosen. In Tara's case, she was reminded this week, due to the Bigolas Dickolas Wolfwood of it all, that one of her favourite books of all time still exists. How to Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone is a short novel told in the correspondence of two agents on opposing sides of a millenia-spanning Time War. Through these letters, they fall in love and have to decide if their love means more to them than the cause they've dedicated their existence to. Works/People Discussed We're Here (HBO) - Congrats on the Peabody win, We're Here team!!! Age of Pleasure by Janelle Monáe This Is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone Jeopardy! Masters (ABC) Air (2023) Fear the Walking Dead (AMC) RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars, Season Eight (Paramount+) RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked (MTV) Queer Eye, Season Seven (Netflix) Strange World (2022) Loop Hero (Windows, macOS, Linux, Nintendo Switch, Xbox One, Series X/S) Support & follow the show Buy us a Ko-fi Sign up for our newsletter Twitter: @queerlyrec Facebook: @QueerlyRecommended Instagram: @queerlyrecommended Tumblr: @queerlyrecommended TikTok: @queerlyrecommended Get all our links on Linktr.ee Support local animal shelters by joining Kris's Patreon

Beauty Bosses
Neff Davis Talks Anna Delvey, Emmy nominations, and a glamorous new career

Beauty Bosses

Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2023 31:28


Neffatari (Neff) Davis from Inventing Anna joins me in my New York City office for the 100th episode of Beauty Bosses! From working as a concierge at the luxury hotel where she befriended Anna Delvey, to being personally invited by Shonda Rimes to be a consultant on the Netflix original series Inventing Anna, Neff has launched a career for herself in filmmaking and assisting one of the top NFL players in the league. Neff sits down with me this week to discuss acclimating to her new life after the Emmy-nominated television show and the many opportunities that came with it.Follow Neff on Instagram @filmcolors

Siempre Pa'lante! Always Forward
15 - A Movement Built to Last for Generations to Come feat. Jamie Broadnax

Siempre Pa'lante! Always Forward

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2023 27:58


Hola mi gente! Welcome to Siempre Pa'lante! Always Forward. I'm your host, Giraldo Luis Alvaré. Gracias for listening. As we begin the celebration of Black Culture this month, remember, one month only scratches the surface to the contributions black women and men have made in the U.S. and around the world. Take time to read and share stories of pioneers who have laid the foundation to make this world a better place. Listen and learn from history so that we can right the wrongs and improve on the accomplishments. Pray to our ancestors so that they may give us strength to overcome no matter what comes our way. This month I invite you to hear about how our guests take their craft to another level. In this episode, our guest took the leap of faith creating one of the biggest movements in media. Her work has been recognized by Shonda Rimes, Melissa Harris-Perry and Idris Elba. That's just a few of the tastemakers that our guest and her team has interviewed. She has garnered the respect of fans and industry professionals with content that connects with the community. From red carpets to current events, get your wireless earbuds ready. Please welcome, the CEO of Black Girl Nerds, Jamie Broadnax. Gracias for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, follow, subscribe, like and share. Check out my Linktree for more info. Pa'lante! https://linktr.ee/sp.alwaysforward Jamie Broadnax Founder & CEO - Black Girl Nerds Black Girl Nerds site | Podcast | YouTube | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | TikTok Black Girl Nerds site - https://blackgirlnerds.com/ Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-girl-nerds/id1056793768?ign-mpt=uo%3D4&mt=2 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/FlixGrl/videos IG - https://www.instagram.com/blackgirlnerds/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/BlackGirlNerds FB - https://www.facebook.com/blackgirlnerds TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@blackgirlnerds?lang=en NOTABLE MENTIONS Black Girl Nerds, BGN, Black Culture, Black History Month, Marvel, DC, X-Men, Shonda Rhimes, Melissa Harris-Perry, Idris Elba, Comic-Con, Morticia Addams, Wednesday Addams, Jim Carrey --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/spalwaysforward/support

I'm Done Apologizing
Ep. 83 “Thank you, smile, shut-up”

I'm Done Apologizing

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 16, 2023 13:30


Shonda Rimes, in her book “Year of Yes,” talks about women's inability to accept compliments. If you've every “explained” a compliment you've received, you're going to want to hear more on this week's episode. . . You can find free resources & ways to get Happy Mail on my Link Tree. Visit here: https://linktr.ee/MichelleSujka NEW CONTENT ADDED! . . #doneapologizingpodcast #doneapologizingforbeingme #doneapologizing #womenempowerment #womensupportingwomen #badassbabes #podcasting #podcastinglife #podcastersofinstagram #yearofyes #ShondaRhimes #thankyou #inspiration --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/done.apologizing/support

JohnnyBoy Studios
092 ~ Dream Bigger; The Strangest Secret

JohnnyBoy Studios

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2022 40:15


I wonder what life would be like if….These words changed my life and let me image what I could do differently. These words allowed me to dream bigger.I keep a post-it note on my desk next to my computer that reads “You are operating no-where near your potential” as a reminder to myself I can always do more. Dan Miller of the 48 Days to the Work You Love podcast ran a challenge in August of 2022. Listen to the Strangest Secret audio by Earl Nightingale every day for 30 days, make a notecard outlining exactly what it is you want to accomplish over the 30 days, and take action towards that single, definite, goal. While I did not do this in August with the other 48 Days listeners I did give myself this challenge, and when I did I gleaned so much from it after only a few listens and I started listening to it 2 and sometimes 3 times a day. I also began telling everyone about it and encouraging them to listen and take the challenge themselves. The Strangest Secret was a game changer for me. The Strangest Secret helped me to dream bigger in my life.The biggest part is towards the end where these steps are outlined;Set yourself a definite goal.Quit running yourself down.Stop thinking of all the reasons why you cannot be successful and instead think of all the reasons why you can.Trace your attitudes back through your childhood and try to discover where you first got the idea you couldn't not be a success if that is the way you've been thinking.Change the image you have of yourself by writing out a description of the person you would like to be.Act the part of the successful person you have decided to become.Shonda Rimes says “If you are in the room it is because you belong there. Act like it.”I made the notecard outlined in The Strangest Secret (and also in Think And Grow Rich) and saw so many things came to fruition as a result. Now, moving into the new year, I am dreaming bigger than ever before.Take a listen to this episode, listen to The Strangest Secret on YouTube, and grab your copy of Think And Grow Rich.Let's connect! I'd love to hear from you.Subscribe on YouTube, join my mailing list, or send me an email!

Waves of Joy Podcast
17. How to build your own authority with Megan Moran of The Momprenuer guide

Waves of Joy Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2022 34:18


In Megan's words... "You have a mission and a movement. You have a message. Let's allow you to shine in that and become a natural authority in your space."An authority is someone you know, like, and trust. Think of Joanna Gains and Shonda Rimes and the authority they have in their spaces... they've built worlds around themselves.Join Megan and I as we talk about how that can happen for YOU! We talk about... Thinking outside of the box Following what's best for you versus what society says you "should" do FInding joy as part of your process Ditching perfectionism Process and strategy for empowering momprenuers And so much more!! About Megan Moran Megan Moran is not only a mom to two beautiful babies under 3 (Jack + Sophia) and a wife to the most supportive husband + business partner ever, Collin, but she is also the owner of The Mompreneur Guide. As a Podcast Host, Professional Interviewer + Authority-Building Guide, Megan is on a mission to help mompreneurs connect with themselves, their community and increase their visibility so they can create movements while also being present + productive. Because as a third generation mompreneur- Megan is proof that it's possible. Megan's website: https://themompreneurguide.com/ (click "Retreat" for information on Megan's retreat!) Megan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mompreneurguide/ Free Meditation brendawinkle.com/feelbetter Brenda's Retreat Since recording this episode, the details for the retreat came into existence. Here's the info! Only 7 spots are available. https://www.brendawinkle.com/womenrisingretreat

Imperfect Mommying: Better Parenting through Self Healing with Alysia Lyons
Telling It Like It Is with Special Guest Shonda Rimes

Imperfect Mommying: Better Parenting through Self Healing with Alysia Lyons

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2022 15:23


You tried to figure out the impossible task of juggling work and family, and you hear over and over and over again that you just need a lot of help. We just need to be organized. We need to try a little bit harder. You're telling moms that they're doing something wrong. It's telling moms that they're missing something. It's telling moms that if you were better, you would be able to do it all. Doing everything is a lie. Nobody does it all. I'm sure you've heard the African proverb that it takes a village to raise a child. That means that at some point, women weren't expected to, and didn't expect themselves to do it all. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/alysia-lyons/support

The Hot Girl Hour
Are you Type A or Type P(erfectionist)?

The Hot Girl Hour

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2022 64:29


SHOW NOTES Join Eboni and her friend Jocelyn this week for another episode! They chat about the things that make them weird and what their ideal proposals are. Being a perfectionist is great sometimes, but it can also be hella exhausting. How do you learn to be an ambitious hard worker while also leaving time to have fun and make silly mistakes? What do Eboni and Shonda Rimes have in common? Get 5 Hot Girl Tips on How To Overcome Perfectionism. HOT GIRL HIGHLIGHT This week's Hot Girl Highlight goes to The Sphinx Organization. The Sphinx Organization is a social justice organization dedicated to transforming lives through the power of diversity in the arts. Their four program areas – Education & Access, Artist Development, Performing Artists, and Arts Leadership – form a pipeline that develops and supports diversity and inclusion in classical music at every level. Donate at sphinxmusic.org/donate and follow their Instagram sphinxorg Follow Eboni: Instagram | Twitter | TikTok Follow Jocelyn: @BrownEyedJo @SweetsByJocelynLA And follow the show! @TheHotGirlHourPodcast Twitter --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/eboni70/support

How To Love Lit Podcast
Kate Chopin - The Awakening - Episode 4 - Symbolism, Romanticism, Nihilism And A Dissonant Ending!

How To Love Lit Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2022 59:04


Kate Chopin - The Awakening - Episode 4 - Symbolism, Romanticism, Nihilism And A Dissonant Ending!   Hi, I'm Christy Shriver. We're here to discuss books that have changed the world and have changed us.    I'm Garry Shriver, and this is the How to Love Lit Podcast.  This is our final episode in our four-part series of Kate Chopin's masterpiece The Awakening.  There is a lot layered in such a short book.  In episode 1, we discuss Chopin's life, we introduce the concept of “local color” and we arrive on the colorful shores of a summer resort village in Grand Isle, Louisiana.  Episode 2 we spend time on Grand Isle.  We meet Edna, Adele, Mr. Pontellier, Robert Lebrun and Madame Reisz.  We watch Edna awaken to an inner awareness she had never understood before, and we see this awakening occur through a physical sensuality she has never experienced before.  She learns to swim.  Edna Pontellier leaves Grand Isle a very different person than how she arrived at the beginning of her summer. Episode  3 we start with chapter 18 as Edna arrives back home in New Orleans.  Nothing would be the same.  She cannot  conform to the roles she has previously played.  She does not fit into the culture; she doesn't want to anymore.  She abandons almost all that she had previously identified with and experiments with different lifestyles: the arts, the horse races, men, ultimately she decides to leave the ritzy Esplanade street and take up residence in what she calls her Pigeon House just around the corner.  Today, we begin with chapter 26 and we follow Edna's progression through the end of the book.       Stylistically Chopin wrote what we call a realistic novel. The story, the settings, the characters truthfully represent the real world.  Grand Isle really exists and the resort there existed in the way she described it.  The same is true for Esplanade Street.  The details are accurate as Chopin represents the reality the great city of New Orleans at the turn of the century.  The French language, the customs, the way people behave, the races, the music, even the Song, “Ah, si tu savais”…is a real song. All of these things reflect reality.   However, as we get farther to the end of the novel, and as the reader gets more submerged into Edna's perspective, things get more and more romanticized.  Objects that seemed liked just objects at the beginning are now understood to be metaphorical and are symbolic.  We notice that objects are repeating and evolving- they are motifs.   In other words, the objects are still what they have always been, but they have taken on to mean MORE than just what they originally meant.  We understand things to be symbols in two ways.  The first way is whey the author spends an inordinate amount of time describing something that maybe isn't THAT important otherwise.  A second way is when we notice something to keep showing up over and over again.  Here's one example  There is music in the beginning.  It's described in detail, but notice just how much music there is in this book.  Notice how much time is devoted to describing it.   There is music in the middle and there is music at the end.  It means something, but of course it's up to us to draw our own conclusions as to what.  The birds work the same way.  There are birds on the first page, they come back in the middle and there is a bird on the last page.  It means something.  Food and meals are often symbolic.  Meals are archetypal symbols for fellowship.   Chopin use meals as a way to sort track what's going on with Edna and her relationships throughout the story.  Following the symbols helps us understand the universality of the story.  The biggest symbol is the sea, and by the end of the book it takes on mythic proportions.  The sea, as we pointed out in the beginning is personified.  It's alive.  But by the end, if we look carefully, we see in the description that the ocean is described as a serpent- uh ohh.  That's a Biblical symbol- but even in the Bible a serpent is not just one thing.  But it's not just the Bible that that is alluded here in these ocean references.  Edna as called Venus, and Venus emerges from the sea. What is that about? Although everything is still realistic- there are no superheroes or magic or pirates or fairies of any kind, there symbols somehow feel allegorical; is Edna even a real person or is she a type?  I know that's a little hyperbolic, but not by much.  Today as we end our discussion, I'd like to see this book as indeed political; there certainly is that side of it, but that is just the surface.  It goes beyond that to ask questions that are personal.  But before we can do that, we must first address the political.  Chopin was, by her very essence, a woman in the vein of what Europeans of her day called the “New Women” of the fin de siècle.    Garry, Chopin, was a well-read French speaker and reader very attune to the political, social and literary movements of her day, but we are not- although I will say, I've learned a lot about new women by watching them evolve in Downton Abbey, but what is a “new woman” and what does the term “fim de siècle” mean beyond the obvious translation of end of the century.    The term “New Woman” was actually an invention of the British media- it's not an American thing- and you're right, it's showcased in a lot of period pieces.  Here's one tell, a new woman might be the one riding a bicycle as a display of her independence.    A bicycle.  That's funny.      You'd have been the first to get your hands on one, I'm sure.  Think about it; just being able to wear clothes that would allow you to ride it would be liberating.  Anyway, the term first came out in the The Woman's Herald in August of 1893.  To use the newspaper's words, “woman suddenly appears on the scene of man's activities, as a sort of new creation, and demand a share in the struggles, the responsibilities and the honurs of the world, in which, until now, she has been a cipher.”  This feminist vision, as you can imagine was highly controversial and threatening to the status quo.  Among other things, it involved a new definition of female sexuality.  Some considered this alone to be the beginning of the apocalypse- the world was certainly turning upside down.  The mainstream media portrayed the new woman as a mannish brute towering over men- someone who is extremely hideous and monstrous- something most women obviously would not want to embrace- very propagandic.  Opponents were making caricatures as negative as possible of these “independent women”  wearing masculine clothes and pursuing unwomanly pursuits like sports, politics or higher education.     How dare they?    There was a lot of cigar smoking in these pictures.  These were meant to be negative images; the women would have angry faces, maybe with their hands on their hips scowling at the reader.  But in the feminist media, the new woman was portrayed very differently.  The traits were the exact same but portrayed in a positive way.  The new woman in these publications  was portrayed as a social warrior defending her home, using her political positions, social standings to compliment traditional household duties.  The idea being a new woman didn't neglect her family she was a better provider and defender of self and family because of it.  The main difference between these new visions of a new woman had to do with what you do with motherhood.   Femininist media created images of women incorporating traditionally male domains not necessarily excluding motherhood.   The big political interests that stand out were women's suffrage and property rights. Women were interested in careers outside the home and higher education.   Women's periodicals emerged with pretty large readerships, and not all of these readers were women.  Women were publicly and in writing asking other women to openly express their views on contemporary life- this was new.  The question of the era was “What is the role of the ‘new woman'?” I quote the North America Review here, “the great problem of the age is how to emancipate woman and preserve motherhood.”   In the 1890s, the new woman wanted to be what some called a “respected radical”.      And of course, we don't have to get far into The Awakening to see these political and social concerns embedded in Chopin's work.  She is a voice speaking to this socio-political moment in time, and she's commenting in a serious way on women's struggle to speak- Edna struggles to speak for herself at everyone point in the book.  Interestly enough, Edna didn't have a mother and doesn't know what to do with motherhood.  She had no personal role model.    I noticed that, and it matters psychologically when we watch Edna vacillate at the end of the book.  Chopin created a character of extreme economic privilege for her day, yet still, Edna has terrible trouble articulating even to herself what she feels or what she wants.   The reasons for this are not simply resolved.  Chopin seems to suggest to me that for sure there are political, social and cultural adjustments that must be made giving women more rights, but that's just one part of it.  Chopin illustrates this from the vantage point of a woman.  There must be a redefinition of respectable womanhood that is not so polarizing.  Here there are only two versions of respectable women-  Madame Reisz and the other Adele Ratignole.     By chapter 26 Edna clearly understands she is not one or the other, but there is an inarticulate lostness.  Where does Edna fit in?  She tells Madame Reisz that she's moving out of her home, and for a brief moment you wonder if she's got some sort of radical plan, except she doesn't and her reasons don't even make a lot of sense.  They're emotional. She's literally moving  “just two steps away in a little four-room house around the corner.  It looks so cozy, so inviting a restful, whenever I pass by, and it's for rent.  I'm tired looking after that big house.  It seemed seemed like mine, anyway- like home.  It's too much trouble.  I have to keep too many servants.  I am tired bothering with them.”  She goes on to say when Madame Reisz doesn't buy that explanation, “The house, the money, that provides for it are not mine.  Isn't that enough reason?”    Obviously those are NOT reasons enough- what does she get out of this move? When Madame Reisz asks how her husband reacted to this plan this is her response, “I have not told him.   I only thought of it this morning.”      Very impulsive.    SOO impulsive.  I'm ashamed to say, I know people that do things like this, but this is not my vision of the real pioneers of the women's movement- not today or from the turn of the century- women like Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Isadora Duncan, Clara Burton, Mary Wollstonecraft- they aren't anything like Edna Pontellier.    Well, no they are not, Edna has some deficiencies for sure, and they express themselves in various ways.  One of these is expressed through this confusion of passion with relationship like we see with Robert LeBrun.   She indulges in fantasy which is fun, of course, and the idea of Robert is a wonderful fantasy.    This is something else that frustrates me, personally, with Edna. I keep wanting to say, “snap out of it, child!”  Chopin builds this tension but she never lets Edna snap out of it.  And even though the title of this book is The Awakening, and it is true is that Edna awakens continuously throughout the book, There is another sense paradoxically where Edna is always asleep literally and figuratively.  Edna is not a villain; Edna is not a pathetic character; Edna is a realistic character who vacillates all the time between this illusion and reality.  She's continually uncovering things that haven't been real, but then constructing things that are totally fake- like her life in this pigeon house or her relationship with Robert. Unpacking Edna is seeing a real life- a struggle. Chopin's evolutionary character awakens from a very female - not a male one, not a neutered life; the complexity derives from realities that are unique to women, specifically those from the turn of the century, but the social and culture implications aside, in universal terms, what does it mean for Edna to be in love with Robert?  To love someone means something in a universal way.  People love in all cultures in all times all around the world.  For a woman to love a man as she claims to love Robert, what does she mean?  Is she saying she desires a life with him; does she want to take on any responsibility for his happiness or good?  That is what I find confusing, because Edna doesn't seem to be doing that for anyone.  In what sense is Edna “in love” or should we not take her at her word on this?        Ha!  Do we take anyone at their word when they are “in love”?  Of course, when she is asked to describe what she means, she describes the biochemical addiction we all feel when we can't get enough of another person.  That experience is overwhelming for anyone; and Chopin has gone to a lot of trouble to show us that Edna has never been “in love” before.  Edna is a woman who recently just turned on her feelings.  Turning on our feelings is important, and it is very sad that it was so long in happening for her.  Contrary to popular opinion, feelings are good.  To experience feelings is not a sign of weakness. Not taking into account her feelings is what got her into a loveless marriage to begin with.  We have to learn to incorporate our emotions if we are going to live as a whole individual- a person with no dead spots.  Edna has lived from her childhood onward with lots of dead spots.  This has handicapped her in many ways.  In this case, what does it mean for Edna in Edna's mind to love Robert LeBrun?  What does it mean if he loves her?  I'm not sure the relationship between these two is what is important for Chopin.  It appears to be the backdrop of a larger issue?  Love is not the end game for Edna; passion was the catalyst to her awakening, to be sure, but the relationship between Edna and Robert is not a Romeo and Juliet type story.  The Awakening is not a love story.    Indeed, Madame Reisz recognizes that as well.  Madame Reisz calls Edna “Ma Reine” in chapter 26.  She then asks, “Why do you love him when you ought not?”       And why does that term “ma reine” draw your attention?    Because that term means, “My queen”, and that seems to be more in line what Edna wants instead of a relationship with Robert LeBrun.  What has Edna discovered in this world.  She's discovered she doesn't want to be woman-mother.  She discovered she doesn't really want to be artist woman.  She's trying out what it's like to be a “man” in some ways.  But really what she wants is to be Woman-queen.  Which is a nice role- I'd like that to be that one as well.    Ha!  Not a Disney princess.    Heck no- I'm all for mother-queen.  But here's Edna'a problem.  She's not prepared nor does she seem creative enough to invent this role for herself in the actual real world in which she lives; she likely can't conceptualize it.  This illusion of a mother-queen will be the model from here to the end of the book.  The thing is, it's not real; Edna is creating an illusion.  In fact, this whole book is a discussion on illusion versus reality.  What did Edna awaken to, if not to the understanding that her entire life was an illusion- she was living an inauthentic life.  Except, look at what she does in response to that?  She's building more illusion- exhibit A-  this relationship with Robert- if it is anything it is an expression of illusion.      Edna doesn't need a fantasy.  She needs hope.  She needs to see her own potential- a creative vision of what she can become, something she would like to become- if not mother, if not artist, if not horse-racer, if not socialite, then what.    In chapter 27, Edna says this “Don't you know the weather prophet has told us we shall see the sun pretty soon?”  The sun is a very ancient and universal symbol.  It represents hope.  It represents creativity; it's a male archetypal symbol, btw, the sun represents energy.  If you remember, Edna can only paint in the sun, and that's exactly right.  That's all of us, we all can only create in the sun.  We can only move forward when we have hope.  The Sun gives us life and without it we live in darkness, without hope.  Edna is wrestling with finding hope, but that seems to be problematic because she can't even decide if she's a good person or a bad person.  Listen to what she says to Arobin, “I'm going to pull myself together for a while and think- try to determine what character of a woman I am; for, candidly I don't know.  By all the codes which I am acquainted with, I am a devilish wicked specimen of the sex.  But some way I can't convince myself that I am.  I must think about it.”      It is in that line that I think Chopin enraptures many female readers.  I want to read it again, “  By all the codes which I am acquainted with, I am a devilish wicked specimen of the sex.  But some way I can't convince myself that I am.  I must think about it.”      In other words, the world tells me I am a bad person because I'm not conforming properly.  I'm not doing the right things; but something inside of me defies that.  I don't feel devilish.  But I'm told I am, and there is my disconnect.    Indeed-and isn't it interesting that it is here at this point that Edna revisits something Madame Reisz has apparently told her previously but we are only getting to see in this context after this confession, “When I left her today, she put her arms around me and felt my shoulder blades, to see if my wings were strong, she said, ‘the bird that would soar above the level plain of tradition and prejudice must have strong wings.  It is a sad spectacle to see the weaklings bruised, exhausted, fluttering back to earth.”    I agree, but what kind of bird is Edna?  Madame Reisz is not using language that suggest Edna IS this kind of woman.  She's challenging her to be a certain way.  She's saying if Edna wants to have a certain outcome, she must display certain characteristics.  But, notice the next thing that happens, Edna and Arobin kiss passionately.  “It was the first kiss of her life to which her nature had really responded.  It was a flaming torch that kindled desire.”  Chopin is very delicate in how she expresses the implied sex scene.  The entire chapter is very short- very different than how Shonda Rimes does these things in Bridgerton.  Let's read it.    Chapter 28    I know this is not the majority view here, but this is not only Edna asserting independence.  This is Edna running into more illusion. From here, she immediately moves out of Leonce's house, but not without running up a crazy expensive bill with a lavish dinner party.  Arobin calls it a coup d'etat.  “It will be day after tomorrow.  Why do you call it the coup d'etat?  Oh! It will be a very fine; all my best of everything- crystal, silver, and gold. Sevres. Flowers, music and champagne to swim in.  I'll let Leonce pay the bills.  I wonder what he'll say when he sees the bills.”    This dinner party is very strange.  For a book so short, why should so many pages be devoted to a dinner party that is essentially meaningless in terms of plot development.      It is long.  One critic pointed out that it's literally, “the longest sustained episode in the novel.”     So, why?  It does not develop the plot; it does not develop any characters; nothing provocative is uttered.  What is going on?    Well!!!  Meals are never just meals- not in literature, not in the movies.  In fact, food is never just food.  It's almost always symbolic of something.  Food is so essential to life, in fact it IS life,  but meals are essential to community.  They don't just symbolize fellowship- they ARE fellowship.  This Thursday night we are going to celebrate our niece, Lauren,  graduating from Collierville High School, and how are we going to do this, we are going to eat together.  Eating together is bonding.  With that in mind, notice how many meals are consumed in this story.      So, what's with the dinner Edna holds?  Her family isn't there.  Her husband isn't there.  Adele, her closest friend, isn't even there.  Many literary critics have suggested, and I honestly think there is validity to this, that Chopin is creating a parody of Jesus' last supper.  Edna has invited a select 12 to join her on her birthday dinner.  There's irony there.  In some sense, it's not just a day where she is celebrating turning 29.  She sees herself as being reborn- her birth…day.  She is celebrating her departure, but unlike Jesus' humble meal in the upper room before his crucifixion and resurrection- Edna goes high dollar.  She sits at the end of the table presiding over her dinner guests, who all have a magnificent time, btw. She wears a cluster of diamonds she had just received that morning from her husband.   There is a specially designed cocktail her father invented for her sister's wedding that she didn't attend; there are multiple courses, everyone has a special chair.  Everything was queenly.  Let me read the description of Edna, “The golden shimmer….    Page 103    Madame Reisz on her way out at the end of the party again says this, “Bonne nuit, ma reine, soyez sage.”  Translated- Good night, my queen, be wise.”    Well, you've made your case…she is playing the part of the queen. But who are the other people in this charade?  Specifically, why is  Mrs. Highcamp there who we know she doesn't like, and why is she weaving a garland of yellow and red roses and laying it over Victor…according to Chopin transforming Victor into a vision of oriental beauty, his cheeks the color or crushed grapes and his dusty eyes glowed with a languishing fire. After that she drapes a while silk scarf on him. It's just weird…and pagan feeling…nothing like the Lord's Supper of the bible, if you were trying to make that comparison.      No, it's the very opposite. That's why critics say it's a parody of Jesus' last supper.  It's imitating but not recreating.  It feels pagan, doesn't it?   Edna is Queen but she has no stated purpose; she is not Jesus sacrificing his life for the sins of the world.  Another moment of parody is when Victor, Judas' like, quickly falls out of favor or betrays her so to speak by singing a song Edna associates with Robert.  But he is shut down.    In the chapters that follow, we see Leonce saving face by remodeling the house as a way of explaining Edna's odd behavior and moving out of the family home.  Edna feels happy about what she's done.  Of course, these are all feelings but “Every step which she took to relieving herself from obligations added to her strength and expansion as an individual.  She began to look with her own eyes; to see and to apprehend the deeper undercurrents of life.”   Again, Chopin never gets far away from the idea that Edna is trying to understand for herself what is real and she is doing this by stripping down, an image we will see all the way to the end.    And yet, the text never clarifies exactly what it is that Edna is learning about the world and herself.  She draws no conclusions, makes no provisions, takes on no responsibilities.  Reality is an immovable thing.  It is not something we simply escape- that is not possible.      Well, I'm not sure Edna knows that.  She visits her children and weeps when she ssees them. Let me quote here, “She lived with them a whole week long, giving them all of herself, and gathering, and filling. Herself with their young existence.”  She tells then about the Pigeon house and the kids get real very quickly.  They ask her where they would sleep, where papa would sleep. Edna's answer betrays her unwillingness to problem solve.  She says and I quote, “the fairies would fix it all right.”      Edna rejects reality over and over again.  She responds with fantasy at every point.  Madame Ratignolle recognizes this.  In chapter 33 she pays Edna a visit at the pigeon house.  She asks about the dinner party.  She warns her about her behavior with Arobin, but she also makes Edna promise that when the baby comes, Edna would come be a part of the delivery.  Before leaving she says this to Edna, “In some ways you seem to me like a child, Edna. You seem to act without a certain amount of reflection which is necessary in this life.”      Adele is referring to whatever is going on with Arobin, but really, the relationship with Robert is the epitome of her fantasy.  As long as Robert is flirting with no goal- like he did on Grand Isle, Edna is in love with him.  On Grand Isle they share a meal together.  They talk about spirits and pirates.  She loves that.  But here in New Orleans, Robert approaches Edna with a desire to be honest and she rejects that.  The text says that in some way “Robert seemed nearer to her off there in Mexico than when he stood in her presence, and she had touched his hand”.   After Edna's birthday we see no more communal meals, Edna eats alone- there is no more fellowship at this point really with anyone.  Edna invites Robert to eat with her at a little restaurant called “Catiche”.  Edna requests a plate and puts food in front of him, but he doesn't eat a morsel. He walks her home and comes inside.  Edna kisses him.  He confesses his love and how he is tormented because Edna is not free.  Let's read this exchange.    “Something put into my head that you cared for me; and I lost my senses.  I forgot everything but a wild dream of you some way becoming my wife.”    Your wife!    “Religion, loyalty, everything would give way if only you cared.”    Then you must have forgotten that I was Leonce Pontellier's wife.”    “Oh I was demented, dreaming of wild, impossible things, recalling men who had set their wives free, we have heard of such things.”    Yes, we have heard of such things.”    There's a little more back and forth until we get to this line of Edna's, “You have been a very very foolish boy, wasting your time dreaming of impossible things when you speak of Mr. Pontellier setting me free!  I am no longer one of Mr. Pontellier's possessions to dispose of or not.  I give myself where I choose.  If he were to say “here Robert, take her and be happy; she is yours, I should laugh at you both.”    He of course responds with, “What do you mean?”  He has no idea what Edna's talking about.      Exactly, and here is where the a plot complication makes things interesting.  Their conversation is interrupted when Madame Ratignolle's servant comes to say that Adelle is having her baby.  Edna leaves Robert.  She says this to Robert, “I love you.  Only you; no one but you.  It was you who awoke me last summer out of a life-long, stupid dream.”      Robert begs Edna, as if she really were Queen Edna.  He begs her to stay with him- to not go to Adelle.  This is kind reminiscient of the stereotypical female damsel in distress begging her hero to stay- except in revere.  She pulls away, promises to return and leaves him and  quote the text here, “longing to hold her and keep her.”      This Birth scene is symbolic in many ways.  It also is a return to the female reality.  Is there anything more real in this world than bringing life into it?  This birth scene reminds readers that this is a uniquely female story because this is one way men and women engage the world differently and there is no way around it. Motherhood and fatherhood are not the same.  Edna goes to Adelle and begins to feel uneasy. Let's read this paragraph from chapter 37.     Page 127    On the surface, it seems that Adele is hoping to inspire Edna to resume her role as a Woman-mother.  On the surface it seems that Edna is battling social conventions and her own sensuality.      Of course, the whole experience leaves her dazed.  The doctor walks her home, and I quote, “Oh well, I don't know that it matters after all.  One has to think of the children some time or other; the sooner the better.”  Let's read the rest of this dialogue between the doctor and Edna.    Page 128      Even at the end of the chapter, Edna cannot articulate her own thoughts, not even inside her own head.  Still she remembers Adele's voice whispering, “Think of the children; think of them.”  She meant to think of them; that determination had driven into her soul like a death wound- but not tonight.  Tomorrow would be time to think of everything.”    Of course, when she gets inside the pigeon house there is no Robert.  He left a note. “I love you. Good bye- because I love you.”  Edna grew faint; uttered no words and stayed up the entire night, apparently just staring at a flickering lamp.    Again, may I point out- light represents hope and hers is flickering.      Speaking just in a general sense, we are co-creators of our reality- our circumstances proscribe lots of things, but we create out of those circumstances and we know it.  And since we know this, no person can run away from his own innate moral obligation to live up to whatever potential we find inside of us.  Whatever we determine that to be.  We cannot run away from that reality.  No matter how hard we try to put it off until tomorrow, that sense of obligation to create something out of our lives is inside of us.  We can't run from it because it is not coming from outside of us.  Edna, in all of her confusion, and she, is very confused about a lot of things at various points in the book, but she never wavers about that.  She clearly says early on in the book, that she understood herself to have an obligation first and foremost to herself.  But what is that obligation- it is for her what it is for everyone.  She must meet her own potential.  We cannot fail at that.  If we feel we are failing at that, that's when despair sets in.      Edna looks at certain realities in her life and awakens to an awareness she doesn't want to face.  She sees obligations in her future- not opportunities.  She doesn't want tomorrow to come, but not going to bed does not put off the morning from arriving.      The end of the book circles back to where it starts- Grand Isle.  Except it is not the Grand Isle of the summer.  Archetypally, Spring represents new birth, summer represents youth; fall represents adulthood or maturity.  Grand Isle is still there, but the women from the summer resort are not.  It's barren. The sun and the warmth is not there either.  Edna returns to find Victor there.  She arrives to find that he's been telling Mariequita all about her birthday dinner.  He has described Edna and and I quote, “Venus rising from the foam”.  If you remember from your Roman mythology, Venus is the goddess of love and is said to have emerged full-grown from the ocean foam.  So read into that what you will.  Anyway Edna asks him to prepare a meal of fish.  She then leaves Victor for the beach for a swim.  If you recall, it was at this place where she had her first swim and experienced her first real awakening.  But now this beach is dreary and deserted.     Let's listen to the thoughts in Edna's head, “She had said it over and over to herself.  “Today it is Arobin' tomorrow it will be someone else.  It makes no difference to me.  It doesn't matter about Leonce Pontelllier- but Raoul and Etienne!”  She understood now clearly what she had meant long ago when she said to Adele Ratignolle that she would give up the unessential, but she would never sacrifice herself for her children.  Despondency had come upon her there in the wakeful night, and had never lifted. There was no one thing in the world that she desired.  There was no human being whom she wanted near her except Robert; and she even realized that the day would come when he, too, and the thought of him would melt out of her existence, leaving her alone.  The children appeared before her like antagonists who had overcome her, who had overpowered and sought to drag her into the soul's slavery for the rest of her days.  But she knew a way to elude them.  She was not thinking of these things when she walked down to the beach.”    There's a lot of nihilism in those comments.  Edna has found nothing that excites her passion.  “There was no one thing that she desired” – that's the line that stands out.  Desire is the fuel of human behavior.  It's where we see our potential.  This is a huge expression of someone who has given up all desire to have responsibility for anyone or anything- and it is unthinking here.  She is completely detached to a degree that it's actually shocking.  I see why this book unsettled so many people.  We don't want to believe people can detach like this.  We know it's dangerous.     She wades out into this ocean because the seas is seductive.  It whispers, it clamours; it murmurs.  It invites her soul to want in the abysses of solitude.  Edna looks up to see a bird with a broken wing beating the air above and falling down disabled to the water.  She then takes off all of her clothes and stands naked in the open air, at the mercy of the sun with the waves inviting her to come in, and so she does.  Let's read this final page.    Page 133      We notice right away the sea is a serpent about her ankle.  Most of us think of a serpent as a symbol for the devil, and that's true in the book of Genesis.  But that is not the only time we see a serpent in the Bible.  In the book of Exodus, the Israelites in the desert look up to a serpent on a stick for healing.  Archetypally a serpent is a symbol of rebirth.    Edna retreats into thoughts of her childhood which reminds me that Edna has no mother.  Honestly, this does not read like a suicide. I For one, think, Chopin leaves it completely open ended.  Can we be sure Edna even dies?  Chopin ends this book entirely unresolved.  It's disturbing.      It hinges on what you want to do with that ocean.  And scholars have come to zero consensus on how to understand this ending.  Oceans symbolically can be sources of self-awareness.  They can be places to find rebirth.  But, what's jarring about this ending is that there is nothing in Edna's characterization at any point in the book to suggest that Edna wants a beginning or even an ending for that matter.  Edna doesn't search for closure not one time in this story- even the bedtime story she tells her kids there's no ending.  Edna is not just rejecting society's roles for her; she seems to be rejecting herself as an individual here.  Do these final images of her childhood suggest she wants to start over or does she give up up?    When ending a good song, every musician knows you have to create closure at the end or you don't resolve the tension in the music.  Non musicians may not know that but they feel it when it happens. Try ending a song on the 5 chord.  And for a woman with such a keen sense of music, it seems Chopin purposely leaves her song unresolved.  There is no funeral; nobody on the beach; not even any thoughts of exit in Edna's mind.  There is nothing.  Instead, Edna is focused on all the repeating elements of her own life's story.  It is a totally directionless ending.    And that's what people love about it- it's messy and unresolved.  It's realistic but also kind of mythical.   I guess, if we want to we can finish the tale in our own minds.  We can either kill her off or revive her.  She either sinks into further illusion, or she awakens one final time into a creative reality.  The central motif of this book is this sleeping/waking thing that goes on the entire time.  And maybe that's where we find ourselves-- hopefully to a much lesser degree than Edna- the messiness of life sets in when we find ourselves oscillating between waking up and further deluding ourselves at some lost point in our lives.  We will make a mess of things (as Chopin says about Edna) – being a victim of forces without and forces within.  Yet what happens after we go into the ocean- or do we even dare?  I like to see this ending positively.  I like to think of Edna rising up and finding she CAN attach to other humans in a way where one does not consume the other.  She can find meaning in her children, in work, in art, in society.   She can find a way to make peace with her culture, her society, her limitations from without and within.  In my mind's eye, she arises out of the foam-like Venus to rob a term from Victor.  So, whether it's realistic or not- In my mind, Edna comes back up- A woman- Queen.  I know I'm adding extensively to the text and that is a terribly bad no no, but hopefully while she was under water listening to all those bees she came up with a good plan.      HA!  You do like to find the silver lining in every storm.  Well, thanks for spending time with us today.  We hope you enjoyed our final discussion on this very perplexing piece of literature.  Next episode, we move from Louisiana up the road to our home state of Tennessee to discuss the music and life of our own Dolly Parton, self-made woman of this generation, whose displays the very idea of local color in her music.  We would ask you to please share our podcast with a friend.  Email or text them a link.  Share a link on your social media.  That's how we grow.  Also, visit our website at www.howtolovelitpodcast.com for merchandise as well as free listening guides for teachers and students of English.      Peace out.                                     

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Book and Film Globe Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2022 35:16


In this week's shocking and amazing edition of the BFG Week in Review podcast, editor Neal Pollack tackles the topic of abortion. Just what you wanted: To hear Neal Pollack talk about abortion. Well, fortunately, he brings in BFG contributor Paula Shaffer to talk about her article on how TV has handled the topic of unwanted pregnancy over the years. As you might expect, Jane the Virgin takes the crown. Shonda Rimes also gets a passing grade. We're sure she'll be relieved to hear that.Then special guest star Philip Fracassi appears to plug his own terrific AudioHopper podcast, ‘The Dark Word.' Philip describes what makes his show so good: Listening to writers talk about the nuts and bolts of the publishing business rather than their own divine inspiration. Things veer a bit when Neal starts to ramble about his own publishing successes and failure. Apparently, the publishing business, and the entertainment business in general, are dark and evil because they've failed to fully reward his genius. Philip patiently waits for Neal to get back on topic.Finally, Rachel Llewellyn stops by to chat with Pollack about the ‘Kids In The Hall‘ reboot, now airing on Amazon Prime. Rachel praises the Kids's ability to craft a show despite their well-chronicled creative differences. Neal marvels at how well they've updated a 30-year-old show for modern sensibilities, crafting it around the themes of middle-aged decay while still keeping what made the show so funny and popular in the first place.We're crushing your head! Thanks for listening.

Goddess Life (made easy)
My Secret Desires UPDATE

Goddess Life (made easy)

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2022 47:56 Transcription Available


In the spring of 2020 I did my second podcast episode "My Secret Desires 2020 & How to Get Yours". I was planning to do a 1 year update, but Covid. So here we are 2 years later & I have some tea for you. In 2020 I shared 4 personal & 4 professional desires (plus a special bonus) I hoped to accomplish by 2021. This episode I'll let you know what desires I've reached & which missed the mark. Did you reach yours? Let me know. Shout out Shonda Rimes, Kate Northrup, Diana Gabaldon & Robert Kiyosaki. Plus (like every episode) I give you a free oracle card reading & share a Goddess Life tip of the day, it's an easy actionable step to living your best life. Remember to rate me 5 stars, review & subscribe so we can reach more mamas! Here are the links I mentioned in the episode: www.LoveLifeAction.com/free-download for the freebie "Natural Consequences (made easy)" pocket cheat sheet (what every parent needs in their back pocket) & to subscribe to my e-newsletter! My Secret Desires 2020 & How to Get Yours (the original episode)  Heartfullness Project: LoveLifeAction.com Heartfullness Project Facebook & instagram tiktok: Heartfullness Project FREE easy vegan Health & Beauty recipes + healing stones here >>> Goddess Life instagram: rootsrocks & facebook: rootsrocks Card readings: CarliCush on Fiverr

The TODDcast
Netflix Series Review: Inventing Anna

The TODDcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2022 3:49


How can you tell a delusional lie from the truth? This mini-series from Shonda Rimes doesn't really help much. Well-told but admittedly false in parts. Might be better reading the books? #netflix #inventinganna --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/toddlyden/message

ScreenPicks Entertainment Podcast
ScreenPicks Podcast: Death on the Nile, Marry Me, I Want You Back and More

ScreenPicks Entertainment Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2022 36:00


On this week's ScreenPicks movie podcast, Kit Bowen and Joel Amos review several films. They include: Death on the Nile, starring Kenneth Branagh, Gal Gadot, Armie Hammer, Annette Bening; directed by Kenneth Branagh Marry Me, starring Jennifer Lopez, Owen Wilson; directed by Kat Coiro I Want You Back, starring Charlie Day, Jenny Slate; directed by Jason Orley Moonfall, starring Halle Berry, Patrick Wilson, John Bradley; directed by Roland Emmerich Blacklight, starring Liam Neeson, Aidan Quinn, Taylor John Smith; directed by Mark Williams We also review the newest Netflix limited series Inventing Anna, from Shonda Rimes and starring Julia Garner Tune in for a great show!

Beyond the Weight with Henny and Sandy
Beyond the Weight with Henny & Sandy Episode 141: We're Saying Yes!

Beyond the Weight with Henny and Sandy

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2022 59:30


Join us as we chat about the fallacy of a fresh start . . . aren't we always taking previous experiences, lessons learned, and memories of the past with us when we step into a new moment, a new day, or a new year? Henny is super excited about a book she just finished, and we discuss the possibility that WW has a lot of cultish language and tendencies (in the best possible way, that is). Finally, we reminisce about reading Shonda Rimes' book, Year of Yes, and we think about the things we're going to say “yes” to in 2022. **Show Notes** Books we mentioned: Year of Yes by Shonda Rimes Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism by Amanda Montell 

Falando de Nada
O investimento da Netflix nos games | Ep 25 | Falando de Nada

Falando de Nada

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2021 58:24


Esta semana, fazemos um follow up em diversos assuntos que estão rolando na indústria: da produção de games pela Netflix, da compra da MGM pela Amazon e bilheteria de Viúva Negra! 00:45 - Depois de um bullying pra começar, Bubu conta uma história de sucesso sobre cafézinho 03:45 - A empresa do moletom de Friends assiste o Falando de Nada! 05:20 - Falamos mais sobre a parceria entre Shonda Rimes, Netflix e os Games 08:30 - Netflix Box? Eleven Box? 11:50 - Mais um serviço de streaming vem aí 12:50 - Bilheteria de Viúva Negra no cinema e o futuro do Premier Acess 21:50 - A A24 está a venda! 24:20 - Alinoca animadíssima falando de Schmigadoon! 29:50 - Investigação de monopólio na compra da MGM 31:30 - Que Funko É Esse? 34:00 - Perguntinhas Marotas!

Too Legitimate to Quit
29: On Bravery, Resilience & Bridgerton (feat. Heather Vickery)

Too Legitimate to Quit

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2021 49:21


Who is in charge of your small business? For most of our listeners, the answer is YOU - and yet, you're likely stuck playing by someone else's rules. Why? How can you forge ahead in your life and calling with bravery, passion, grit, tenacity, resilience, and pride? What will change for you when you allow yourself to reinvent and reinvest in our #1 asset - YOU?! This week, Annie P. is joined by the phenomenal Heather Vickery. Heather is an expert in all things BRAVE - including boundaries that keep small biz owners safe and in their zone of genius and actions that will plant them back on solid ground. Then, Heather and Annie gush about Shonda Rimes and the swoon-worthy Netflix sensation, Bridgerton, and the power of reimagining things. Happy Pride Month to all our LBGTQIA+ listeners and allies!! We love your love! *Parentpreneur advisory: this episode contains colorful language. Connect with Heather through her website and Instagram. Be sure to check out her own podcast, The Brave Files. Annie P's beloved book club, The Cl*terary Coven highly recommends the writing of: Tessa Dare, Courtney Milan, Beverly Jenkins, Alisha Rai, Alyssa Cole, Sarah MacLean, Joanna Shupe, Kit Rocha, Suleika Snyder, Marie Piper, Talia Hibbert, Megan Frampton, Lavyrle Spencer, Alexia Daria, Lorraine Heath, Eva Leigh, Cathy Maxwell, Lisa Kleypas, Adriana Anders, Sophie Jordan, and Casey McQuinston. Please discover them by supporting our favorite romance bookstore, Love's Sweet Arrow. Check out these fabulous Etsy finds Bridgerton romantics, each made and sold by independent artists. Tired of feeling sleazy when you sell - or avoiding "the ask" altogether? Annie P.'s free masterclass is for you. For full show notes and more visit www.toolegitimatetoquit.com Extra Credit: Don't forget to subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts! New episodes drop every Monday. Reviews and ratings really help our little show grow, so thank you for the boost!

The Champagne Problems Podcast
Transitioning Out Of Pandemic Mentality + Nature Is A Vibe

The Champagne Problems Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2021 29:54


This is a hilarious episode the girls catch up discussing the transition from extreme introvert to being an extrovert as the Pandemic winds down. Also find out what we think about having kids. Expect chat about Manifesting, Nature, Grey's Anatomy and more! Jenna 1. Find a doctor that you like (7:09) 2. Find an outside hobby (11:58) 3. Olivia Rodrigos album - Sour (19:00) Mikkey 1. Abraham Hicks Focus Wheel (9:20) 2. The year of Yes by Shonda Rimes (14:39) 3. Hire A Maid @precioustimingllc (22:30) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thechampagneproblemspod/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechampagneproblemspod/support

Doctor Vs Comedian
Episode 9: Accents & Apu / 'Medical ‘Miracles' & Doctor Distrust

Doctor Vs Comedian

Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2021 42:29


In today's episode, after a bit of listener mail about Ali's love of Shonda Rimes (1:00), the guys discuss the issue of actors faking accents on movies and TV shows (2:09). Ali discusses Rizwan Manji from Schitt's Creek and Aziz Ansari. Ali even discusses how he originally auditioned for the role of Ray Bhutani on Schitt's Creek and his own experience with using an accent in roles. We also discuss the case of Paul Sun-Hyung Lee on Kim's Convenience. They then discuss “The Problem with Apu”, the documentary by Hari Kondabolu, and Hank Anzaria. They discuss the historical example of Peter Sellers and “The Party”. Ali then talks about Hank Azaria's recent appearance on “Armchair Expert” with Dax Shepard and Hank's apology to South Asians. Then, Asif talks about so-called ‘miracle cures' in medicine and his contempt of practitioners who peddle them (21:19).  Ali then counters with the question of whether patients seek miracle cures because of a distrust of doctors and the medical system. They then discuss how distrust of the medical system can affect health outcomes and touch on the issue of race and its relation to medical distrust (and discuss Michael Che from Saturday Night Live). Asif then discusses what the medical community can do to improve trust.   The opinions expressed are those of the hosts, and do not reflect those of any other organizations. This podcast and website represents the opinions of the hosts. The content here should not be taken as medical advice. The content here is for entertainment and informational purposes only, and because each person is so unique, please consult your healthcare professional for any medical questions.   Music courtesy of Wataboi and 8er41 from Pixabay   Contact us at doctorvcomedian@gmail.com   Follow us on Social media: Twitter: @doctorvcomedian Instagram: doctorvcomedian   Show Notes Schitt's Creek Actor Rizwan Manji Doesn't Regret Giving His Character an Accent :https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/12/schitts-creek-ray-rizwan-manji-south-asian-accent Hank Azaria feels he should apologize for Apu 'to every single Indian person in this country': https://www.kezi.com/content/national/574196012.html?ref=012:        Armchair Expert Podcast with Hank Azaria: https://armchairexpertpod.com/pods/hank-azaria The Problem with Apu:https://gem.cbc.ca/media/documentary-specials/episode-39/38e815a-010f377caad    Do You Trust the Medical Profession? By Dhruv Khullar: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/upshot/do-you-trust-the-medical-profession.html Measuring Patients' Trust In Physicians When Assessing Quality Of Care: https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.23.4.124 Linking primary care performance to outcomes of care: https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?v=2.1&it=r&sw=w&id=GALE%7CA21215648&prodId=AONE&authCount=1&u=nysl_me_weillmdc&selfRedirect=true Understanding and Ameliorating Medical Mistrust Among Black Americans https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/newsletter-article/2021/jan/medical-mistrust-among-black-americans Bad Medicine: The Harm That Comes From Racism: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/upshot/bad-medicine-the-harm-that-comes-from-racism.html Austin Frakt Harriet A. Washington: Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans From Colonial Times to the Present: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/185986/medical-apartheid-by-harriet-a-washington/   

Le Tour du Monde de l'Actu
Wonder Woman - Shonda Rimes

Le Tour du Monde de l'Actu

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2021 2:31


Wonder Woman - Shonda Rimes by Le Tour du Monde de l'Actu

The Female Dating Strategy
The Bridgerton Episode

The Female Dating Strategy

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2021 51:00


We breakdown the FDS themes in Shonda Rimes' hit show on Netflix, Bridgerton! Anthony is annoying. Lady Featherington is a real one.  Daphne and The Duke....Well... Follow us! Patreon: www.patreon.com/TheFemaleDatingStrategy Website: www.thefemaledatingstrategy.com Twitter: @femdatstrat Instagram: @_thefemaledatingstrategy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/The-Female-Dating-Strategy-109118567480771

Beyond The Box Set
Crossroads 2: In The Zone

Beyond The Box Set

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2021 84:54


It's Britney, Bitch! In the concluding episode of our 'musician to movie star' mini-season, we look back at the Princess of Pop's first, and to date only, major movie vehicle.  Tune in for our thoughts on product placement,  surprisingly dark plot twists and the bizarre agelessness of Kerry Washington. All that plus sequel pitches, drinking games, listener reactions and much more!  ----- Beyond the Box Set is a movie podcast with a twist. Each week we take a look at a well-known standalone movie and compete to pitch ridiculous sequel, prequel and spin-off ideas to bring them back to the big screen.  If you enjoy this week's show, please hit subscribe to receive a brand new episode every Monday morning. You can also sign up to our Patreon to help support our show and access a number of incentives, including a weekly bonus show, extended episodes, a regular on-air promo slot and much more, all available for as little as $2 per month. beyondtheboxset.com patreon.com/beyondtheboxset twitter.com/beyondtheboxset facebook.com/beyondtheboxset instagram.com/beyondtheboxset 00.00: Shonda Rimes having written this movie 100% tracks 50.20: Crossroads Drinking Games 56.00: Crossroads sequel pitches 1.12.30: Listener Submissions & Episode 209 Preview

The Talent Crush Chat Show
BWB 20: Gary the Shark

The Talent Crush Chat Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2021 52:00


After a brief discussion of recent political events in the United States and their historical ties, Chris and Stevie dive back into their more usual realm of cultural conversation.  Stevie recommends a stirring Irish drama and praises Bridgerton and all things Shonda Rimes, and Chris raises the age-old question: does the shark from Jaws have a name? Plus: an unexpected diversion into the Law & Order universe! Who could ask for anything more?  –Vice Presidents of the United States –Blood –Bridgerton –This Way Up –Law & Order Universe aka the Dick Wolf Cinematic Universe (DWCU) –Sketchfest FESTPOCALYPSE –– Saturday, January 30 – 5:00 PM PST  

Jones’n 2 Branch Out
Ep.25 This One Felt A Lil...Unprepared

Jones’n 2 Branch Out

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2021 29:47


Iight, me and the wife going to discuss how we're gonna go about with our "weekend recording" for Mondays. It's the time to unwind after a work week but now...It's Monday again, back to the grind and back for another episode. I can't wait for society to hit normalcy soon, I would like to give more than just having a work week. Soon....and soon we try some visuals and some interviews.Time Stamps 04:18 Branch Binging: HTGAWM is crazy bro, and we only in season 2…now nobody suggest another Shonda Rimes show after this.Lupin is what we want to see next…and yes it was Soul with the voice actor issue.12:15 I have been replaced in the cuddle department…Wife done got a weighted blanket and It looks like my Cuddle Services will be moving up 12 years sooner.15:27 We felt old over the weekend, and man the future is gonna be wild embarassing for our kids.18:05 Cat Names Have been choosen Question Mark. She spoke it into existence ya'll22:22 I don't mind our double posting but we gotta have some Monday and Friday format of the episodes23:35 In other news…aliens is in the Air Fryer's dawg, shit I can see most foods get cooked…why come I can't see the aliens cook?25:30 I gotta stop coming across news from Florida…or just Wypipo florida news. Follow Us on Facebook, Leave some love: https://www.facebook.com/Jones2BranchOut

Married With Channels
Episode 29: Bridgerton and The Undoing

Married With Channels

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2021 20:33


Lord Charlamain Goatsbreath Westeshire cordially invites you to listen to the ramblings of a married couple as they espouse on a Shonda Rimes joint. And 'The Undoing.' Does 'Bridgerton' live up the hype? Uh, no. But there's more to it so listen. Hugh Grant. Why?

Le Flash Séries
La Chronique des Bridgerton dans le top des meilleurs lancements sur Netflix

Le Flash Séries

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2021


La nouvelle série de Shonda Rimes fait actuellement un carton sur Netflix. En effet, la plateforme a annoncé que La Chronique des Bridgerton devrait atteindre les 63 millions de ménages dans le premier mois après sa sortie. Pour calculer cela, Netflix prend en compte le nombre d'abonnés qui ont regardé un épisode pour au moins 2 minutes. Avec un tel score, la série deviendra alors la 5e série avec le meilleur lancement sur la plateforme. https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1346214836544315393 En haut du classement, on retrouve The Witcher avec 76 millions de ménages et La casa de papel avec 65 millions de comptes. La famille Bridgerton s'est également retrouvée première du Top 10 Netflix dans 76 pays différents. Un renouvellement de la série pour une 2e saison n'a pas encore été annoncé, mais on n'a aucun doute que cela ne devrait pas tarder. On vous tiendra bien sûr informés le cas échéant !

BetaSeries La Radio
La Chronique des Bridgerton dans le top des meilleurs lancements sur Netflix

BetaSeries La Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2021


La nouvelle série de Shonda Rimes fait actuellement un carton sur Netflix. En effet, la plateforme a annoncé que La Chronique des Bridgerton devrait atteindre les 63 millions de ménages dans le premier mois après sa sortie. Pour calculer cela, Netflix prend en compte le nombre d’abonnés qui ont regardé un épisode pour au moins 2 minutes. Avec un tel score, la série deviendra alors la 5e série avec le meilleur lancement sur la plateforme. https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1346214836544315393 En haut du classement, on retrouve The Witcher avec 76 millions de ménages et La casa de papel avec 65 millions de comptes. La famille Bridgerton s’est également retrouvée première du Top 10 Netflix dans 76 pays différents. Un renouvellement de la série pour une 2e saison n’a pas encore été annoncé, mais on n’a aucun doute que cela ne devrait pas tarder. On vous tiendra bien sûr informés le cas échéant !

BetaSeries La Radio
La Chronique des Bridgerton dans le top des meilleurs lancements sur Netflix

BetaSeries La Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2021


La nouvelle série de Shonda Rimes fait actuellement un carton sur Netflix. En effet, la plateforme a annoncé que La Chronique des Bridgerton devrait atteindre les 63 millions de ménages dans le premier mois après sa sortie. Pour calculer cela, Netflix prend en compte le nombre d’abonnés qui ont regardé un épisode pour au moins 2 minutes. Avec un tel score, la série deviendra alors la 5e série avec le meilleur lancement sur la plateforme. https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1346214836544315393 En haut du classement, on retrouve The Witcher avec 76 millions de ménages et La casa de papel avec 65 millions de comptes. La famille Bridgerton s’est également retrouvée première du Top 10 Netflix dans 76 pays différents. Un renouvellement de la série pour une 2e saison n’a pas encore été annoncé, mais on n’a aucun doute que cela ne devrait pas tarder. On vous tiendra bien sûr informés le cas échéant !

Let's Gossip
Let's Gossip Ep. 24 Mean Girls

Let's Gossip

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2021 36:23


Alright snitches, we have a BIG Bachelor recap coming at you with the new Bachelor, Matt James. We are so happy to be back and discussing everyone's favorite show. This week we meet the girls and there is ALREADY some drama. Then for ‘Gossip of the Week' we are going to be talking about the Bachelor Nation breakups featuring Kelley Flannagan and Peter Weber as well as Carly Waddell and Evan Bass. Next, we discuss Shonda Rimes new Netflix series Bridgerton. It's hot and spicy with an 1800's twist. Then we finish off strong by talking about Justin Bieber's new song “Anyone” and the music video. 

Roads Taken
Profiles in Courage: Jennifer Wulff on finding the light within one’s personal narrative

Roads Taken

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2021 25:52


Guest Jennifer Wullf, Dartmouth '96, never thought she was college bound, let alone Ivy League material. But with encouragement that she was a strong writer who had the goods, she entered Dartmouth as a transfer student at the age of 23, making her time at college seem somewhat out of sync. Perhaps that is one reason the memoir she tried to write during her last year’s fellowship—though packed with a roller-coaster plot—ended up missing the mark.She continued her journey as a writer with a quick stint at Sports Illustrated and then a ten-year career at People Magazine, where she honed her skills profiling some of the most accomplished and creative celebrities. To better suit life with a family, she turned to freelance work and now writes frequently for the Dartmouth Alumni Magazine, where she still profiles some pretty amazing people. But, while she does that work well and enjoys it, it still doesn't fill her need to tell her own story.In this episode, find out from Jen how listening to others can ultimately bring out the story from within …on ROADS TAKEN...with Leslie Jennings Rowley. About This Episode's GuestJennifer Wullf is a freelance writer, most recognizable to Dartmouth folks through her many cover stories and profiles of alumni from Mindy Kaling to Shonda Rimes to our own Marsha Stephanie Blake in the Dartmouth Alumni Magazine, where she is a contributing editor. Before hitting it out on her own, she was a long-time staff writer at People Magazine. She is currently working on her memoir. Also Mentioned in this EpisodeJen’s Dartmouth Alumni Magazine coverstories on actor classmate Marsha Stephanie Blake ’96 and Hollywood showrunner extraordinaire Shonda Rimes ’91. Executive Producer/Host: Leslie Jennings RowleyAudio Engineer: Clancy RowleyMusic: Brian Burrows 

Must Watch: Netflix Edition
Bridgerton (with Joanna Robinson)

Must Watch: Netflix Edition

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 25, 2020 31:00


Joanna Robinson of Vanity Fair and The Storm: A Lost Rewatch Podcast joins Brandon Katz and Jean Bentley to discuss the new Shonda Rimes series Bridgerton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Parenting Roundabout
What We're Watching: The Voice Finale and Baby Ballroom

Parenting Roundabout

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2020 20:59


After five hours of fanfare last week, The Voice came to an end and crowned 15-year-old Carter Rubin the winner. We're disappointed for our favorite, John Holiday, but know he'll continue to do amazing things.Baby Ballroom also wrapped up its second of two seasons, with another very extra party put on by Warren and his long-suffering minions (his daughters' dance partners, Thor and Kirill). We'll miss all these cute little ballroom babies, who we know are not so little anymore; look them up on Instagram, if you dare.Next week, Round 2 will be on hiatus while we bring you some holiday-season speed rounds. We'll be back on January 5 to discuss Bridgerton, Shonda Rimes' period drama (dropping on Netflix on Christmas Day).

The Dishmaster
Welcome to Season 2! We Talk Affairs, Feuds, Engagements, and the Stingy House of Mouse

The Dishmaster

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2020 49:30


Welcome to season 2, friends! On this week's episode, we talk that scandalous Dominic West/Lily James affair; Kim Kardashian's tone deaf antics; Bobby Bones' self-promotional engagement; Jessica Alba's 9021-NO experience; Kanye West's hologram gift; and Shonda Rimes beef with Disney. Plus, we rate the best looking male actors (dead or alive).

Cocktail Conversations with Shannon
"Breaking the Cycle" Pushing Past Old Family patterns and Raising a New Generation w/ Fiona Williams

Cocktail Conversations with Shannon

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2020 93:58


Hello Loves, this week I ask Ice Cube "What did you expect?" from the current president, discuss Shonda Rimes and the Disneyland Ticket that destroyed her deal with ABC and give ya'll a WORD based on Tamar Braxton's reality show. I also chat with Vocalist, Fiona Williams to discuss the challenges of living up to family expectations and how to do things differently with the next generation. Listen babes! https://www.facebook.com/iamfionachanel https://www.instagram.com/fionachanelwilliams/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/cocktailconvo/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cocktailconvo/support

Riggs & Alley
Thursday, October 22, 2020 - Riggs & Alley Rewind

Riggs & Alley

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2020 63:25


Throwback Thursday!!  Carole Baskin and Joe Exotic are STILL fighting - and he's in PRISON, Alley walked right by the Halloween stuff at the store - how are you celebrating this year, Shonda Rimes flilpped out over Disney passes, Riggs got a letter from his homeowners association that TRIGGERED him hardcore, Bachelorette busted in a lie, Alley's oldest Owen has a RIDICULOUS birthday wish list, Notorious B.I.G. is back with a NEW song?!, famous rapper buys 87 acres of land outside Atlanta, our weekly round of "who know's the 90's" trivia too!  Enjoy today's show without music or commercials.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

SPARK LIGHT DAILY
Ep. 28 Spontaneous Saturday 5.23.20 w/ Nicki!

SPARK LIGHT DAILY

Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2020 7:45


Happy Spontaneous Saturday, dear humans! Today Nicki reads a spontaneously chosen page from Shonda Rimes, Year of Yes. Today, learn to take a compliment and just relish in your awesomeness!

b CAUSE with Erin & Nicole
53: Lockdown Meltdown: The 10-Min "Say Yes" Rule

b CAUSE with Erin & Nicole

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2020 55:11


We're all spending way too much time at home these days. Are we supposed to be reveling in extra time with the family and the dust bunnies?  But wait: Do you actually prefer "playing" with your work more than playing with your kids, for example? Even famed TV producer Shonda Rimes agrees. Erin and Nicole talk about how Shonda opens herself to new things, but definitely sets some boundaries ("10-minute rule.) What else in your life can you apply this rule too? You have limited energy - how do you order and reorder it? Erin Hatzikostas and Nicole Licata Grant sit down for another 'How Was Your Week?' episode, during a time where everyone's week are either a bit slower paced or more all over the map than usual (or both). Even the price of gas is back to 90's era prices. With that, Nicole hopes there are free corn dogs in her future. Nicole's parents have been married for 50 years, but the family can't go to Portugal to celebrate together as planned. If her parents can make 50 years together, we're sure they can manage confinement and a postponed celebration. But do you have to celebrate at 50? why not 49 or 51? Why do we have to even celebrate the same milestones in life? Do things your own way! Here's to the Azores for 51! They both discuss adapting to the lockdown and being at home all the time; juggling work and life, especially kids (yeah, here comes that "guilt" about not wanting to "play".) At Nicole's pad, the occupants are having conversations about required dress code to avoid any video call mishaps, while Erin tried to 'Milli Vanilli' her son's music homework. This is Gen X at it's finest. Erin also reflects on some difficulties and doubts about being an entrepreneur at the moment. In a rare glimpse of role reversal, Nicole talks Erin through her struggles. Nicole is actually one of the struggles as it turns out. After working on the podcast for a year, and following Nicole's journey throughout, Erin asks her to talk about where she is now amid all of this. Erin admits that she wants more for Nicole.  Nicole helps Erin see that she has changed and is changing authentically in ways you can't always tell on the surface; that her growth is deep within her and is real. And, on her own terms. Her own way. and, there are some boundaries about how much everyone has to see.  Erin follows on by reflecting on how she coaches, what it teaches her about herself, and how they can both use that (along with all of you!) to move forward and continue to make positive changes in their lives.  If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration! Here are some options... Check out the b BRILLIANT career coaching program @   b Cause Podcast Facebook group @ We share even more crazy stuff here (you probably thought that was impossible).  Take our simple, fun and insightful "What Kind of Dog Are You At Work?" by going to  We have so much fun stuff going on...we wouldn't want you to miss out - join the authenticity movement and our community by adding your email just about anywhere @  Check out our blog for more of our no-BS career advice @ We have fun and inspiring t-shirts @ DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsuitable for younger audiences.  Tweetable Comments: "When you get ahead, the Universe always finds a way to screw you." "Do things your own way." "Leave it to your pre-teen daughter to solve all your problems." "Everyone seems to be having these moments of questioning." "The things I rely on to make me feel relevant, valued...a part of something bigger, balanced...I've lost a lot of those things. We all have." "At some point they're going to be flagging you in for free gas and a corndog. You heard it here first." "We're going to need a language, and a culture - culture leaders - to help us get to that 90 degrees in-between." "What he's learning isn't really important; him having to figure things out is way more important." "Every time I'm asked "Mommy will you play with me?" It's either a distraction of me trying to get work done that's critical or a distraction from me 'playing' with my work." "This process has taught me to be less afraid and to hide less. I think I probably hid parts of myself for a very long time." "I might just have more compassion now." "Developing emotional intelligence doesn't come over night." "As long as we're moving." "If it's five years from now, or ten years from now, and there aren't big fucking things in your world, I'm gonna kick your ass." "If you want bigger things you have to reorder the energy in your life."

b Cause Work Doesn't Have to Suck
53: Lockdown Meltdown: The 10-Min "Say Yes" Rule

b Cause Work Doesn't Have to Suck

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2020 55:11


We're all spending way too much time at home these days. Are we supposed to be reveling in extra time with the family and the dust bunnies?  But wait: Do you actually prefer "playing" with your work more than playing with your kids, for example? Even famed TV producer Shonda Rimes agrees. Erin and Nicole talk about how Shonda opens herself to new things, but definitely sets some boundaries ("10-minute rule.) What else in your life can you apply this rule too? You have limited energy - how do you order and reorder it? Erin Hatzikostas and Nicole Licata Grant sit down for another 'How Was Your Week?' episode, during a time where everyone's week are either a bit slower paced or more all over the map than usual (or both). Even the price of gas is back to 90's era prices. With that, Nicole hopes there are free corn dogs in her future. Nicole's parents have been married for 50 years, but the family can't go to Portugal to celebrate together as planned. If her parents can make 50 years together, we're sure they can manage confinement and a postponed celebration. But do you have to celebrate at 50? why not 49 or 51? Why do we have to even celebrate the same milestones in life? Do things your own way! Here's to the Azores for 51! They both discuss adapting to the lockdown and being at home all the time; juggling work and life, especially kids (yeah, here comes that "guilt" about not wanting to "play".) At Nicole's pad, the occupants are having conversations about required dress code to avoid any video call mishaps, while Erin tried to 'Milli Vanilli' her son's music homework. This is Gen X at it's finest. Erin also reflects on some difficulties and doubts about being an entrepreneur at the moment. In a rare glimpse of role reversal, Nicole talks Erin through her struggles. Nicole is actually one of the struggles as it turns out. After working on the podcast for a year, and following Nicole's journey throughout, Erin asks her to talk about where she is now amid all of this. Erin admits that she wants more for Nicole.  Nicole helps Erin see that she has changed and is changing authentically in ways you can't always tell on the surface; that her growth is deep within her and is real. And, on her own terms. Her own way. and, there are some boundaries about how much everyone has to see.  Erin follows on by reflecting on how she coaches, what it teaches her about herself, and how they can both use that (along with all of you!) to move forward and continue to make positive changes in their lives.  If you like jammin' with us on the podcast, b sure to join us for more fun and inspiration! Here are some options... Check out the b BRILLIANT career coaching program @   b Cause Podcast Facebook group @ We share even more crazy stuff here (you probably thought that was impossible).  Take our simple, fun and insightful "What Kind of Dog Are You At Work?" by going to  We have so much fun stuff going on...we wouldn't want you to miss out - join the authenticity movement and our community by adding your email just about anywhere @  Check out our blog for more of our no-BS career advice @ We have fun and inspiring t-shirts @ DISCLAIMER: This episode is not explicit, though contains mild swearing that may be unsuitable for younger audiences.  Tweetable Comments: "When you get ahead, the Universe always finds a way to screw you." "Do things your own way." "Leave it to your pre-teen daughter to solve all your problems." "Everyone seems to be having these moments of questioning." "The things I rely on to make me feel relevant, valued...a part of something bigger, balanced...I've lost a lot of those things. We all have." "At some point they're going to be flagging you in for free gas and a corndog. You heard it here first." "We're going to need a language, and a culture - culture leaders - to help us get to that 90 degrees in-between." "What he's learning isn't really important; him having to figure things out is way more important." "Every time I'm asked "Mommy will you play with me?" It's either a distraction of me trying to get work done that's critical or a distraction from me 'playing' with my work." "This process has taught me to be less afraid and to hide less. I think I probably hid parts of myself for a very long time." "I might just have more compassion now." "Developing emotional intelligence doesn't come over night." "As long as we're moving." "If it's five years from now, or ten years from now, and there aren't big fucking things in your world, I'm gonna kick your ass." "If you want bigger things you have to reorder the energy in your life."

Crossroads Minute
Minute 72: Road Trips and Money With Shonda Rimes

Crossroads Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2020


The timeline for EVERYTHING changes WILDLY in this minute. Also we don’t actually know how this recording contest is supposed to work. We would really like Shonda Rimes to come on the show and explain all this, so if anyone knows her…

Also, as promised, the only Crossroads-tagged fan fiction I could find (and it doesn’t *appear* to actually be Crossroads-related, but it’s tagged, so…if anyone reads it, let us know how it goes, okay?): https://archiveofourown.org/works/22124248 Theme Music: “Crunky” by Freedom Trail Studio

Ecos a 10.000 kilómetros
S07E04 - El del confinamiento 1

Ecos a 10.000 kilómetros

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2020 84:40


PRESENTACIÓN LIBROS 00:04:30 Year of yes (Shonda Rimes) 00:08:10 Pequeños fuegos por todas partes (Celeste Ng) 00:11:40 Persuasión (Jane Austen) 00:16:20 La conjura contra América (Philip Roth) 00:20:20 Inside out: Mi vida (Demi Moore) PELÍCULAS 00:24:50 Leap year 00:27:30 Casting JonBenet 00:32:25 Violet y Finch 00:37:15 Ana y el Apocalipsis SERIES 00:42:10 El Palmar de Troya 00:47:55 The Outsider 00:53:25 Esta mierda me supera (T1) 00:58:55 Road Trip (T1) 01:01:30 My Brilliant Friend (T2) 01:05:45 LO DE ANATOMIÍA DE GREY (¡¡¡SPOILERS!!!) PODCAST 01:18:00 Uncover (T1): Escaping Nxivm 01:20:00 Travesura realizada COSAS QUE NOS HACEN FELICES 01:21:45 #CoronaCosasHomeEdition, cuidado facial y algunas ofertas 01:25:00 DESPEDIDA En este programa suenan: Radical Opinion (ARchers) / Siesta (Jahzzar) / Place on Fire (Creo) / I sqw you on TV (Jahzzar) / Parisien (Kevin MacLeod) / Bicycle Waltz (Goodbye Kumiko)

Writers, Ink
Crafting Cinematic Scenes with Blake Crouch

Writers, Ink

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2020 41:15


Blake Crouch excels at crafting cinematic scenes. Through the manipulation of memory and reality along with the infusion of self-experience, Crouch creates scenes that feel both surreal and believable. He is well known for his bestselling Wayward Pines Trilogy, which became a top-rated TV series. He has published more than a dozen other novels and has had work in various publications, including Ellery Queen and Alfred Hitchcock Mystery Magazine. Blake is currently adapting his bestselling thriller, Dark Matter, for the big screen while Shonda Rimes and Matt Reeves are bringing Recursion to Netflix.From Amazon.com:Blake Crouch is a bestselling novelist and screenwriter. His novels include the New York Times bestseller Dark Matter, and the internationally bestselling Wayward Pines trilogy, which was adapted into a television series for FOX. Crouch also created the TNT show Good Behavior, based on his Letty Dobesh novellas. His latest book is Recursion, a sci-fi thriller about memory, and will be published in June 2019. He lives in Colorado.Whether you’re traditionally published or indie, writing a good book is only the first step in becoming a successful author. The days of just turning a manuscript into your editor and walking away are gone. If you want to succeed in today’s publishing world, you need to understand every aspect of the business - editing, formatting, marketing, contracts. It all starts with a good book, then the real work begins.Join international bestselling author J.D. Barker and indie powerhouse, J. Thorn, as they gain unique insight and valuable advice from the most prolific and accomplished authors in the business.In this episode, you’ll discover:How to utilize nostalgia in your storyHow to integrate self-experience into a sceneHow to rethink a saturated genreWhy to save cut scenesHow to balanced planned and improvised writingLinks:J. D. Barker - http://jdbarker.com/J. Thorn - https://theauthorlife.com/Blake Crouch - http://blakecrouch.com/Recursion by Blake Crouch - https://books2read.com/RecursionNovelPines (Book 1 of Wayward Pines) by Blake Crouch - https://books2read.com/PinesThree Story Method by J. Thorn and Zack Bohannon - https://books2read.com/threestorymethodThree Story Method Workbook by J. Thorn and Zack Bohannon - https://amzn.to/37SAR1aMusic by Nicorus - https://cctrax.com/nicorus/dust-to-dust-ep Voice Over by Rick Ganley - http://www.nhpr.com and recorded at Mill Pond Studio - http://www.millpondstudio.comContact - https://writersinkpodcast.com/contact/ “Muggable” quote by Harley Christensen - https://www.mischievousmalamute.com/*Full disclosure: Some of the links are affiliate links. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Real Happy Mom
Mommy Talk Thursday #9 - Say Yes to Play Time

Real Happy Mom

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2020 1:49


It's Thursday. Which means it's time for another Mommy Talk Thursday. This is when I chat with you and either give you encouragement about a single topic, affirmations that will help you to be a real happy mom or inspiration to help with this journey called motherhood. Today I'm talking about saying yes to playtime.Check out the TED Talk with Shonda Rimes that I referred to called My Year of Saying Yes to EverythingLet's ConnectBlog | https://www.realhappymom.comInstagram | https://www.instagram.com/realhappymomFacebook | https://www.facebook.com/realhappymomPinterest | https://www.pinterest.com/realhappymomTwitter | https://www.twitter.com/realhappymom1Support the show (https://ko-fi.com/realhappymom)

Pop This!
Episode 219: Shondaland

Pop This!

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2020 59:38


Summary: "Don’t call me lucky. Call me a badass." This week we invite activist, entrepreneur and author Akilah Newton on the show to talk about all things Shondaland. Also discussed: Black History Month, Anne Murray, and the firing of Tanner Zipchen.     Show notes:   Anne Murray: 40 years of hustle and the making of a Canadian icon (CBC Music)   "Insensitive" by Jann Arden   Tanner Zipchen Claims Cineplex Paid Him in SCENE Points (Exclaim)   Who is Akilah Newton?   What is Shondaland?   Every Shondaland Show, Ranked (Screen Rant)   Big Dreamers: The Canadian Black History Activity Book for Kids Volume 1 (Goodreads)   Bright Confetti Media (Akilah's website)   Recommendations: Lisa:  Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens (book) Andrea W.: Amythyst Kiah (music) Akilah: The Year of Yes by Shonda Rimes (book) Music credits: "Good Times" by Podington Bear From Free Music Archive CC BY 3.0   Theme song "Pyro Flow" by Kevin Macleod From Incompetch CC BY 3.0 Intro bed:"OLPC" by Marco Raaphorst Courtesy of Free Music Archive CC BY-SA 3.0 NL Pop This! Links: Pop This! on TumblrPop This! on iTunes (please consider reviewing and rating us!) Pop This! on Stitcher (please consider reviewing and rating us!) Pop This! on Google PlayPop This! on TuneIn radioPop This! on TwitterPop This! on Instagram Logo design by Samantha Smith Pop This! is two women talking about pop culture. Lisa Christiansen is a broadcaster, journalist and longtime metal head. Andrea Warner is a music critic, author and former horoscopes columnist. Press play and come hang out with your two new best friends. Pop This! podcast is produced by Andrea Gin and recorded at the Vancouver Public Library's wonderful Inspiration Lab.  

About Progress
AP 240: Guard Your Yes's || Growth Spurt

About Progress

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2020 12:30


One time I almost considered becoming engaged to someone (not my husband!) because I was so scared to say no. My struggle with saying yes and saying no has been a long journey, friends, and it's one I'm still working on. In this episode I want to talk about how to guard your yes's and give you my personal experience with, and guidelines, on how to do that. Last year I lived a year of yes (anyone else read Shonda Rimes' book?) and learned a lot about myself, and others, who behave this way. Not only does saying yes, and even saying no, affect you, it affects everyone around you. Maybe that's not surprising. If this is something you struggle with, examine the feelings that come up when you give a mis-intended yes. Now let's not go crazy here, I don't like laundry but I still say yes to it, because of my life's priorities. That's the bonus fourth point I share in this episode, along with 3 other rules I follow to guard my yes's. If this topic is something you know you need to work on even more, check out Becky Higgins episode "Why You Need to Say No to Good Things". About a few other things... If this episode struck a chord with you and you know it's time to respect what you really want out of your life, see if the Progress Program is right for you. Through small group coaching I want to help you get unstuck in ways that stick. Doors close 2/28 (or before that if the group reaches capacity - I keep it really small!). Not sure if I'm the right coach for you? Find out by attending my bite-sized class (1.5 hours!) on beating the procrastination blues. SHOW NOTES Apply for the Progress Program Take the online procrastination class Get the Organization Overhaul audio course Join the monthly membership group Get your first month+ FREE with Libsyn using code MONICA Lend your voice and experience + be featured on the show HERE Join the free and private FB group Join Monica on Facebook and Instagram Songs Credit: DRIVE by Dj Nicolai Heidlas @nicolai-heidlas Music provided by FREE MUSIC FOR VLOGS AND VIDEOS bit.ly/freemusicforvlogs

Mailtime
Adult BINGO & Harlan Coben

Mailtime

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2020 100:36


All the conversational signs that your are getting old. Small talk with strangers, conference call chatter, the "oh, ok" and getting excited about an air fryer. Harlan Coben has written 30+ novels and is the author/producer for The Stranger (on Netflix now). He joins us to talk about how to deal with critics, RL Stine, Dan Brown, what went wrong with Game of Thrones and Lost, and why people look at him like he is a zoo animal. TIMESTAMPS: (:00-4:00) signs of getting old, pot luck, social life circumstances(4:00) small talk, conference call talk(6:00) Oh, ok(7:00) Where did you go to school?(9:00) The gift and the curse, happy hour(12:00) Stealing signs (From bars), dancing at the bar(15:00) Becoming your own villain(16:00) Small talk with strangers, how have you been?(18:00) Adult BINGO(19:00) Kids(22:00) Real Estate(26:00) Kitchen(28:00) Minivans(30:00) Airfryer(32:00) Instagram ads(34:00) Diet, This Book I'm Reading, exercise bike(36:00) Intermittent Fasting/Starvation(38:00) Must Watch, podcasts you listen to(40:00) Reading, going to bed early(44:00) Living vicariously, judging young people(46:00) Get Roman (50:00-55:00) Astros(1:00:00) The Stranger, cameo(1:07:00) Horror genre, torture porn, the end of the show is different than the book(1:08:00) LOST not paying off on it's teasing, knowing the end of the story when you start writing(1:10:00) How to write suspense, adding in a twist to every story, asshole coaches(1:13:30) is Knives Out character based on you?(1:17:00) How to develop stories, asking What If? (1:19:00) why is everything British? 5 year deal with Netflix(1:21:00) Game of Thrones and where it went wrong(1:22:30) responding to critics and plot holes(1:24:00) Shonda Rimes created Grey's Anatomy for Bob Iger(1:25:00) RL Stine, why Girls would only work on HBO(1:28:00) writing blurbs for Dan Brown(1:31:00) what it's like to be a successful writer, only bad writers think they are good, how long does it take to write a book(1:34:00) Save The Cat, any formula to a successful book? Bird By Bird, writers vs bloggers(1:37:00) more gratified: book or Netflix series? first bestseller(1:40:00) working with Michael C Hall(1:42:00) finding balance, working from home, writing in Starbucks

Say Your Mind
76: The R in Britain stands for racist

Say Your Mind

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 22, 2019 88:09


Send your letters to SYM@kelechiokafor.com (mailto:SYM@kelechiokafor.com) follow @kelechnekoff and @sayyourmindpod In this episode I talk about the tarot message asking us to be balanced in our self-care practice. I discuss: Dwyane Wade supporting his 12 year old child, Shonda Rimes being the highest paid show runner on television. Shiori Ito's MeToo case. RIP Mama Cax. The media backlash when they misquoted Stormzy's comment about Britain's racism. Enjoy!

The Transformation Maven Podcast
Ep. 061 Fashionably Inspired with Jodie Dolan

The Transformation Maven Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2019 30:46


Jodie Dolan is the founder of the fashion brand Dolan, which you may have seen in stores like Anthropologie and Saks Fifth Avenue. She’s also the creator of The Laundry Truck LA, which is a free mobile laundry service that supports the homeless population in Los Angeles. In this episode of The Transformation Maven Podcast, Jodie is sharing how persistence, intuition, and having an amazing team has been the secret recipe to her success.  Donate to The Laundry Truck LA here. 01:44 - Rachel and Jodie catch up after not seeing each other for 20 years 03:04 - Rachel walks into Anthropologie and notices that all of the tops she’s drawn to are from Jodie’s fashion brand. 04:09 - Jodie shares the story of how her fashion brand was born. 04:52 - The first order Jodie gets is a $10,000 order from Saks Fifth Avenue. 05:41 - The key to Jodie’s success. 07:03 - Jodie learns the value of having a great team. 09:20 - In 2016, Jodie is coming out of a fashion event and experiences a powerful moment. 10:10 - Jodie finds herself on Skid Row volunteering with Monday Night Mission. 11:30 - Jodie starts a mobile laundry service for the homeless. 12:49 - The future of The Laundry Truck LA 13:44 - Jodie describes the network of services for the homeless in Los Angeles. 15:19 - Rachel shares her experience working with the homeless as an attorney. 16:16 - The power of smiling at a stranger on the street. 18:02 - Putting something good out into the universe! 19:09 - Jodie reflects on the group effort that helped create The Laundry Truck LA. 20:20 - Miley Cyrus, Shonda Rimes, and Ashton Kutcher show their support for The Laundry Truck LA. 22:58 - Using the masculine and feminine sides to achieve success. 26:56 - The Lightning Round.

The Bold Sidebar
Christine Matus Attorney for Families with Special Needs Children - “How do I help more people".

The Bold Sidebar

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2019 59:26


Christine Matus has practiced law for 24 years. Over the past several years she has devoted her practice to families with special needs children as well as the Estate Planning & Real Estate practice areas. Christine's journey has taken her from associate attorney to law firm owner. Her team includes Colleen Clark Esq. and a coaching program called “How to Manage a Small Law Firm.” Christine brings the enthusiasm of a coach to our interview and I suspect everything that she does. She uses coaching to refresh herself and to push herselfShe markets her niche practice area so she can answer the question – “How do I help more people?”  She wants to be a “hub for the family” and wants her firm to be a “place of warmth.”Her big ask is that practitioners use their communication with clients to prod a little bit to determine if there are special needs children in the family who might need some helpShe gives a shout out to her accountant, Mike Demola, CPA of Cowan Gunteski, and recommends a couple of books: “Year of Yes” by Shonda Rimes, “The Four Agreements” by Don Miguel Ruiz, and “Building a Story Brand” by Donald Miller. She is the author of a book, which is available from her law firm for free: “Basic Estate Planning for Parents with Special Needs Children.”Tune in Today and let us know what you think! If you or anyone you know might be interested in being a guest of The Bold Sidebar – email Tina George at tgeorge@hornlawgroup.net for details.  Horn Law Group, LLC 801A Main Street Toms River, NJ 08753 T: 732.736.9300 E:tgeorge@hornlawgroup.net Website:https://hornlawgroup.net/ Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/TheBoldSidebar/ https://www.facebook.com/hornlawgroupnj/ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/horn-law-group/  Christine MattusThe Matus Law Group81 East Water Street Suite 2C Toms River, NJ 08753Telephone 732.281.0060Website: https://matuslaw.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/matuslawgroupTwitter: https://twitter.com/MatusLawGroup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-matus-8314ba2/   

Scam City
Scamming, But Make It Fashion: Anna Delvey Takes Things From Rich People

Scam City

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2019 67:14


With her oversized black sunglasses, Supreme athleisure, and Rimowa suitcase, Anna Delvey (real name Anna Sorokin) posed a German heiress and scammed hoteliers, influencers, NYC elite, and the damn SWISS BANK in order to social climb in Manhattan. Landing in 'Merica at the age of 28, Sorokin, the daughter of a former truck driver from Russia, migrated from Germany to the United States in 2014. After her arrival, she got a little creative with her backstory and recreated her entire identity, claiming to be a wealthy socialite, and the daughter of an oil baron...or a diplomat, depending on who asked. She got in with the NYC elite socialite scene and scored even more investment and clout by pretending to raise money to startup her own artsy social club. Anna was kicked out of the NYC scene and thrown into Rikers when her lies finally caught up to her, and her inner circle began to discover that the German heiress was really a broke scammer with good fashion taste. Delvey is now serving 4-12 years in jail and will be deported after her release. Both Lena Dunham and Shonda Rimes are creating shows based on Delvey's hot girl summer. This week we talk about about Delvey's whirlwind summer, the trip that cost her everything (and by her, we mean her friend who was left with the bill) and her infamous courtroom looks. Cassandra's Overall Scam Score: 2 Taylor's Overall Scam Score: 2.6 Anna Delvey content How Anna Delvey Tricked New York My Misadventure with The Magician of Manhattan Anna Delvey Trial Looks

The Katie Lance Podcast
The More You Learn, The More You Earn

The Katie Lance Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2019 18:21


In this podcast episode I share some of my very favorite books, online resources and events that have changed my life personally and professionally! The theme of this episode is, the more you learn, the more you earn. But beyond making money, the time to learn and improve is so important personally and professionally. Here are a few of my favorite quotes from the books I mention in this episode: “You can get everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want.” - Secrets of Closing the Sale by Zig Ziglar “Love is something you do for someone else, not something you do for yourself.” - The 5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman “I think a lot of people dream. And while they are busy dreaming, the really happy people, the really successful people, the really interesting, powerful, engaged people are busy doing.” - The Year of Yes by Shonda Rimes   Lessons learned Make the time to continue to educate yourself The more you learn, the more you earn There is never an ideal time – make the time to read, go to events and pursue learning!   Additional resources: Visit me at KatieLance.com for more info about my speaking, consulting and our #GetSocialSmart Academy (use the promo code PODCAST to save $30/month) Follow me on Instagram for more behind-the-scenes into my life and business @katielance (Enjoying this podcast? Tag me on IG and let me know!) Check out these three books (affiliate links): Secrets of Closing the Sale by Zig Ziglar The 5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman The Year of Yes by Shonda Rimes Podcasts to check out: Online Marketing Made Easy with Amy Porterfield and Build Your Tribe with Chalene Johnson Social Media Examiner, Social Media Marketing World (https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/) Creative Live https://www.creativelive.com

Beyond the Weight with Henny and Sandy
Beyond the Weight with Henny & Sandy Episode 8: We Are Ragnarians!

Beyond the Weight with Henny and Sandy

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2019 45:55


Welcome to Beyond the Weight with Henny and Sandy! This is a newly WEEKLY podcast about two regular women talking about life and healthy living! Join us this week to talk about (finally) our experience running Ragnar Niagara. We also chat a bit about some of the other activities we enjoy getting up to and a super-engaging book written by Shonda Rimes called The Year of Yes. We also giggle - a lot.

Sin palomitas de maíz
13. ¡Queremos ser guionistas! ✍

Sin palomitas de maíz

Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2019 78:37


Episodio 13 de Sin palomitas de maízInvitada: Laura Salazar @laurelalazarEn las últimas semanas la conversación de los domingos en la noche es sobre Game of Thrones, en julio seguro no pararemos de hablar de Stranger Things y Netflix se la ingenia cada tanto para poner de tema una de sus nuevas series. ¿Por qué nos importa tanto la televisión? ¿Qué tanto nos define? ¿Le exigimos demasiado al entretenimiento? De eso hablamos en el arranque de este episodio ¡Todos queremos ser guionistas!Carlos nos habla de Historia de un crimen: Colmenares, la serie sobre Luis Andrés Colmenares un caso que a ha tenido a Colombia preguntado que sucedió realmente la madrugada del 31 de octubre de 2010. Spoiler la serie de Netflix no nos da la respuesta, pero lleva esta historia a muchas pantallas ¿Para usted asesinato o accidente? Disponible en Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/co/title/80994596Desde Ciudad de México Sandra García (@sagas21) nos antoja de ver: The OA, la serie de Netflix sobre Prairie Johnson, que recientemente ha estrenado su segunda temporada. Disponible en Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/co/title/80044950El embajador de HBO no deja de sorprendernos con las joyas ocultas del catálogo de HBO y en este episodio nos recomienda la miniserie de 6 episodios: Angels in America una serie de 2003 con una reparto inmejorable con nombres como: Al Pacino, Meryl Streep, Patrick Wilson y Emma Thompson.Disponible en HBO GO: https://co.hbogola.com/seriesOverview/180093bd-dc4a-11e8-810d-0050569a010f/2 Juan David (Que ya tiene cuenta de HBO) nos recomienda la serie italo-americana de HBO y RAI: My Brilliant Friend (L'amica geniale ) un viaje hasta el golfo de Nápoles en Italia en una adaptación de los libros de Elena Ferrante. Disponible en HBO GO: https://co.hbogola.com/seriesOverview/e71383e3-ea78-11e8-810d-0050569a010f/2Finalizamos el episodio 13 con nuestra invitada Laura Salazar quien nos habla sobre How to Get Away with Murder la serie producida por Shonda Rimes, que sigue los casos y la vida de la abogada Annalise Keating y sus estudiantes.Disponible en Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/co/title/80024057Más sobre Sin palomitas de maíz en: https://medium.com/sin-palomitas-de-ma%C3%ADzProducido por: Punto LinkEdición: Carlos Esteban OrozcoMúsica: Juan Camilo Gómez Locución: Santiago Rendón

Succeed Intentionally with Monique Davis
3rd Power of Intentional Success: Collaboration

Succeed Intentionally with Monique Davis

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2019 26:57


You've got every single piece necessary for your business to grow. You've done everything that your job entails... So why aren't you gaining success? Maybe, it's the lack of collaboration... Listen in on how Shonda Rimes changed Success Coach Monique Davis' thought process with one powerful word. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/succeedintentionally/support

The Actors Lounge
Asante Jones

The Actors Lounge

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 31, 2018 28:32


Asante Jones hails from Cleveland, OH. He's lived in LA for over 21 years and has amassed quite a list of accomplishments. With over 70 titles on IMDb, he has recurred on several TV shows, such as Scandal and Rosewood a couple years ago. Asante has starred in a Lead role in the John Travolta film, I Am Wrath. Look for his earlier work in the film, Camp (2013), about abused and neglected foster kids that get to attend a very special summer camp for one week every year, available on Blu Ray and DVD. He served as the voice of Boost Mobile for five and a half years. He currently has a VO campaign running as the voice of Marshawn Lynch's hand, Baby Beast, to promote the video game, NFL Madden '18. It was touring with the Shelley Garrett play, Beauty Shop Part II that got him out of Cleveland in the 1990s. While on tour, Asante's roommate was Academy Award Nominee, Michael Clarke Duncan (The Green Mile). Asante has worked with notable celebrities such as Emma Stone, Robin Wiliams, Kathy Bates, Morris Chestnut, Shonda Rimes and Betty White, to name a very few. Check out his role as Black Eddie in the raucously funny web series, Break Room. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/theactorslounge/support

Fake it Til You Make it with Brooke and Sammie
FIMI EP09 - JENNIFER MICHELE - Professional Princess and Founder of the Los Angeles Princess Company

Fake it Til You Make it with Brooke and Sammie

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2018 79:23


This week’s episode, we delve a lot into knowing your worth. We talk about not being afraid to brag about what you have, not being scared to ask for what you want, and also how to negotiate your salary - BECAUSE YOU’RE WORTH IT! This week’s guest, Jennifer Michele is a professional princess who founded and runs her own party princess company - The Los Angeles Princess Company. We learn about the ups and downs of starting a company, what goes into running things by yourself, as well as what it’s like to play a real live princess for kids. Jennifer is the ultimate hustler, a smart and savvy entrepreneur, and an inspiration to anyone who wants to start their own company! FIND US
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Brooke Hayley Martin - @macdaddybrooklyn
Sammie Carson - @sammie_supernova
Jacob Shelton - @jacobshelton
fimipodcast@gmail.com THIS WEEK'S GUEST
Jennifer Mahlman
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Lori & Julia
7/23 Mon. Hr. 1 - Dennis Quaid gives an interesting interview to Megyn Kelly.

Lori & Julia

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2018


– Weekend Claims to Fame: Lori's mom visited from Seattle, Julia had a silly moment with her mom, Donny hit The Scottish Fair, The Blues and Funk Fest and Lumberjack Days. Dennis Quaid gives an interesting interview to Megyn Kelly. Good Morning America will launch GMA Day at noon in September. Shonda Rimes will EIGHT new shows on Netflix. Johnny Deep and Amber Heard almost bumped into each other at Comic-Con.

#WeGotGoals
How Julie Smolyansky of Lifeway Kefir Embraces Her Complex Identity and Hones Her Intuition

#WeGotGoals

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2018 43:10


Julie Smolyanksy is a tough woman to nail down. Not in terms of her schedule — although she is all over the place, having recently published her first book, The Kefir Cookbook, while running Lifeway Foods full-time as CEO and President. Instead, over the course of our conversation on the #WeGotGoals podcast, I found myself trying — and repeatedly failing — to put Smolyanksy neatly in a box that I could easily write 500 words on in a blog post. Smolyanksy is a CEO/President, sure. But she's also been the first female CEO of a publicly held firm (when she took over Lifeway Foods in 2002 after her father's unexpected death). She's a mother and a feminist activist, identities that drive her decisions as a businesswoman who wants to set a strong example for her daughters. She's an immigrant who came to the United States as an infant with her parents, who brought kefir with them as a taste of Eastern Europe and later turned it into a $12 million business (up to $120 million in 2017). She's sharp as a tack and incredibly organized and detail-oriented, but she's a believer in holistic health and says things like "the universe is going to give me what I need" without a hint of irony. Needless to say, my head was spinning as we sat down to talk, knowing there were so many dimensions to this woman. But interestingly, one of the things we talked about was the benefit of ignoring your brain and listening to your gut, something Smolyansky got a crash course in when she lost her phone in Mexico for a few days. "It was like sort of the universe doing a wake up call like 'Julie, stop, stop, slow down, stop, listen to yourself, listen to your body, you're spinning out of control,'" Smolyanksy revealed. Without her phone to distract her outwardly, Smolyanksy spent her days doing yoga, meditating, and journaling, only to find that hip pain she had dealt with since pregnancy had mysteriously disappeared after a particularly cathartic meditation. "I think that was this moment of following my intuition," mused Smolyanksy, noting how after that realization, she was able to look back in her life at times she had ignored her gut instincts only to regret it later. Today, Smolyanksy hones her intuition through regular SoulCycle classes, running, enjoying the occasional glass of red wine — and of course, incorporating kefir into her diet regularly. "What we're learning now about the microbiome, I am blown away by how important it is having that gut, which we call a second brain now, how important it is to have one that's running well. When it's healthy, it's like magic." Listen to Smolyanksy's episode of #WeGotGoals wherever you get your podcasts to learn more about taking over the family business during a tumultuous, grief-filled time, plus how she feels her identity as a feminist impacts her daughters and what it's like to be the only young, immigrant female CEO in a room full of old, white males. To get more of #WeGotGoals, make sure you subscribe and leave a rating or a review so others can hear these stories, too. Psst... don't stop listening when the interview portion is over. We saved a few minutes at the end of the podcast to devote to real-life goal-getters like you, and we'll hear from one inspiring goal-getter each week.     Start Transcript: _______ JAC: Welcome to #WeGotGoals, a podcast by aSweatLife.com on which we talk to high achievers about their goals. I'm Jeana Anderson Cohen and with me I have Maggie Umberger and Kristin Geil. KG: Good morning, Jeana. MU: Good morning, Jeana. JAC: Good morning and today Kristen, you talk to a real boss. KG: Yes. I talked to Julie Smolansky who is the president and CEO of Lifeway Kefir. JAC: And Julie was not the first president and CEO of Lifeway Kefir. She sort of stumbled into or was thrust into that role under some not so ideal circumstances, but really thrived there, right? KG: Yeah, exactly. So Lifeway Kefir is Julie's family business. It was started by her father. Her mom contributed a lot as well, and she and her brother actually both grew up working for her father and learning the ins and outs of running Lifeway Kefir. Then in 2002, her dad passed away very suddenly from a heart attack and at that time Lifeway Kefir was about a $12,000,000 business. Julie took over the next day as CEO and president and began running the company. It made her the youngest female to be the CEO of a publicly held company at that time. She was somewhere around 27, so very young, but since she's been in that role, she has grown Lifeway Kefir to $120,000,000 as of last year, 2017. So we talked a little bit about how tough it must have been to be thrown into the CEO role in such dark circumstances, but she actually had a really unique perspective on it. She thought that having to take over as CEO right away was her father's way of leaving her a project where she could direct her energies and help work through her grief without being totally consumed by it. MU: And we've gotten to speak to many different CEOs and entrepreneurs on this podcast and one thing that has come up as a theme that I found pretty interesting is how certain people have talked about the importance of their intuition and how they have really, really leaned on it and making decisions. And so it's obviously not something that they take lightly and Julie is one of those CEOs as well. Is that right? KG: Yeah, so a little bit of backstory. We obviously talked a lot about Lifeway Kefir and how kefir is so good for your gut health with all of the probiotics, so in the biological sense, Julie's always thinking about the gut, right, but we also talked a little bit about how she's learned to hone her intuition and listen to her other gut, so to speak, and how that served her in the business world and she told a story that you'll hear about losing her phone for a few days in Mexico and how she learned to just figure stuff out without technology and she offers some really good advice for anyone who's looking to disconnect a little bit and really hone in to their inner self and driving their own decision making without outside influences. KG: And I think that's another thing you'll hear come through this podcast a lot is I feel like there's really two sides to Julie. You know, on one hand she's a really sharp business woman. Always thinking about her next move. She just wrote a book that recently came out. So she's very savvy in that sense of the word, but she also speaks really beautifully about listening to the universe and learning how to hone her intuition and she's a little more woo-woo than what you might expect from a CEO, especially someone who is such a young CEO in a tough business world. So I think you'll get a lot out of this interview guys. JAC: And we can't wait to hear Kristin with Julie. It sounds like it was a really great interview. And stick around listener for the end of the episode where you'll hear from real life goal-getters and what they're achieving out there in the real world today. Here's the show. KG: Welcome to #WeGotGoals. My name is Kristen Geil and today I am here with Julie Smolansky, the president and CEO of Lifeway Kefir. Julie, how are you today? JS: I'm doing great. How are you? KG: I’m great. We're so excited to have you on today. Lifeway Kefir has been a friend of aSweatLife for awhile now and we've gotten used to trying your delicious kefir products at all of our SweatWorking events and we're especially excited to have you on today too because we're going to hear more about the book that you've recently published. So thank you for being here today. First of all, we'll start off with the question that we ask everybody who comes on this podcast and that is, what is a big goal that you've achieved in the past. Why was it important to you and what steps did you take to get there? JS: Well, one of my goals for quite a while has been to write a book and I finally did. I just published the Kefir Cookbook and it took me quite awhile to write and it was a challenging for a variety of reasons, but we did it. I'm super proud of it. I share a lot of great stories from my life, my family's life. I touch on a lot of various issues from being an immigrant and a refugee to a female entrepreneur to a mom. Um, so, you know, even though it's a cookbook, it's very personal and I, I think it was sort of like the appetizer to my first kind of entry into publishing and writing. But yeah, that I am right now just kind of sitting back and watching the book have its impact and being able to talk to my customers and various people as I kind of tour around the country and hear about how kefir has improved people's lives. It's been very, very touching to me. So I'm, I'm kind of just enjoying this moment right now. KG: And you mentioned just now that the Kefir Cookbook is more than just an actual cookbook. I've flipped through it a little bit and it seems like there's a lot of stories of your family woven in. How did your family influenced the conception and the actual writing of this book? JS: Yeah, so I mean, you know, my father passed away, which is how I ended up as the CEO of Lifeway. Uh, he passed away about 16 years ago now. And so he, for me, it was sort of writing some of the stories that were important to me to share that I wanted to sort of document and leave for next generations because those stories become diluted over time or lost. And so now these are kind of forever and you know, it seems a very natural platform to use food to tell these stories. It's, it's become natural for me to like share a picture and say something about it. And I actually think social media really helped me kind of find the inspiration and my voice in that. So when I, I feel like I got good at it through social media, then it became very natural to do it in a more formal published way, organized neatly, you know, strategically. And then with my mom, you know, a lot of recipes kind of were hers, you know, there's a handful that were hers that I had to call and ask her, you know, how to make things or I forgot how to do certain Russian recipes that, which is our, our background. We immigrated from the former Soviet Union in 1976. So, you know, kind of grew up with these old old worlds, Russian Ukrainian recipes, and then there were some stories that I'd forgotten that, you know, I didn't even know that she shared with me that were just kind of fun. And you know, and I think about how far we've actually come when I, I'm very humbled by these stories because, you know, my mom and dad both grew up in a country in communist Russia after the war there, experienced lots of challenges, adversities, political persecution, religious persecution, poverty, hunger, sickness. JS: Like when I think about just how far my mom went to the bathroom in an outhouse, you know, and, and when I think about the rooms and the situations I've been so blessed to be in, it's incredibly—I just get filled with gratitude. So to be able to kind of tell those stories. And then like I said, like they’re, I grew up with them, but now they're like neatly organized, indexed official. There's a Dewey Decimal system number two, it, um, it's just, I'm just so proud of it. And then, you know, I think it's a great way to bring attention to certain issues like immigration, like refugees, like why it's important to support diversity and how that impacts and, and you know, the fact that because America, because Chicago opened its arms to us, we were able to bring kefir, which is a staple in eastern Europe here to the United States and the impact of this product have kefir of probiotics, of gut health, of us leading that conversation for the last 30 years. That becomes incredibly rewarding. I think it's a great example. So I think when I think about the conversations that are being had on a kind of a bigger level, I think it's a great example. Hard to argue with it. KG: Lifeway Kefir is a family business. Can you tell us a little bit about how it was founded, what your first role within the company ism and how that has all grown and developed over the past. How many years has it even been? JS: So it's been 16 years. Yeah. My Dad passed away June ninth in 2002. So I'm coming up to his 16th anniversary and my 16 years of being the CEO. So he, he had a sudden heart attack at the age of 55 and died on a beautiful sunny morning in Chicago and the next day my brother and I essentially took over the company. He was 23, he had just graduated college. He had been with us for about six, six months. I had been with my dad for about five years and I had left—I had intended on becoming a psychologist and I was in grad school, but serendipity brought me to the company kind of on a more formal way and I had decided to leave grad school and I didn't come back for my second year and went full time with my dad and worked with him five years side by side, really learned all the elements of business, kind of a lot of his philosophy and whatnot and it was a great time for us because we. I really got a chance to sort of heal our relationship because I had grown up with both of my parents running businesses as immigrants to the new country, they really, you know, they didn't, I think when we talk about balance and whatnot, that's such a luxury because as immigrants you don't even have that conversation. JS: It's just a nonexistent topic because they're just head down working, getting their feet into the country and putting food on the table literally. And I as, as I kind of got to know my dad and some of his challenges I, a different level of respect sort of started to happen or just like an understanding of how much that both him and my mother had taken on. Not that they were perfect, but it's just, uh, a different level of understanding. So anyways, he passed away. I ended up taking over with my brother. I become the CEO. He's the CFO and we just grow it from about 12 million to about 130 today. We're, I feel like on the cusp of another kind of growth spurt right now. Of course, probiotics are having a moment as everyone knows. Gut health is having a moment. I don't think it's going away. JS: We're just learning about the microbiome and the bacteria that that is so critical for our health and wellbeing. You know, it's a 2000-year-old product that's just making its way here to the United States. It's 30 years is nothing actually considering its long 2,000 year history. What our relatives knew in the Caucus mountains in Europe, they said that 2000 years ago when they tried this product that they had a sense of wellbeing when they consumed it, they called it the champagne of dairy and a gift from the gods and they intuitively in their gut, you know, no pun intended, kind of realized and knew that they felt good when they consumed kefir. Well, fast forward to 1908, Élie Metchnikoff did the first science research around kefir and its influence on our health and our wellbeing and he won the Nobel Prize for it. So for now, the last hundred years we've had science and medical research backing up what and our ancestors knew intuitively that kefir is actually really good for you, very beneficial to the body. JS: And so in the last hundred years, we've just advanced on that research and science and it's now, it's like unbelievable what's happening, the incredible breakthroughs that are happening, even we knew that it was good for your digestive and your immunity, you know, your health from a physical perspective. But now we're learning that it's even beneficial for mental health. So we now know that gut health influences your stress, anxiety, depression, all of the mental health and, and like incredible research that's coming out around microbiome and mental health, but all health. And so, you know, we're, we're just really excited about kind of sharing that information. I mean, it survived by word of mouth, by storytelling, by oral history and storytelling, word of mouth. And now with social media, that of course elevates and explodes it and so we can really get the word out around the, you know, when you make certain food choices and certain lifestyle choices, you choose to heal yourself. JS: You choose to love yourself. You choose to love your family or community for a very like, you know, there's no risk. It's not like a pharmaceutical drug that has side effects. There's the only side effect is that you feel good, you know, that's the, that's the impact. So that becomes incredibly rewarding to try to get it into the hands into as many people get this information out and support communities that are trying to do this. Um, I think that's kind of if, if, if that's the purpose, my life purpose, then I think I've lived a good life. Yeah. KG: When you took over Lifeway Foods in 2002, you became the youngest female CEO of a publicly held firm. But unlike most CEOs who have time to grow into the role, you were thrust into it really unexpectedly. What was that like and what did that teach you about your leadership and goal setting style? JS: Yeah, I mean it was incredibly challenging. Of course, on one hand, you know, I was mourning the loss of my father, but it sort of, it gave me a place to focus and put that energy. It gave me an outlet. I almost think like he was sort of looking over me and like handed this project to me. Like here, instead of feeling sorry for yourself, go work on this. That's very much him. And I really was, I constantly thought about this mantra that failure was not an option, that my parents had gone through so much. My family had gone through so much blood, sweat and tears to get to this point that I wasn't gonna let it all just fall apart. And I mean, I had backlash. I had older men who tried to undercut, you know, my role and prevent this from happening. And it took a lot of courage for me to stand up to a, you know, a bunch of older white men and say no, and I'm gonna run it and I'm going to kick ass at it. JS: I mean, I kind of, I knew that I would. And then I think, you know what? I guess what I thought about was that my parents came with no money, no friends, no language. They didn't have a network. Here I was, graduated, uh, you know, schooled in the United States with a network for the most part, access to network already with, you know, a $12,000,000 business now. It's just like, don't fuck it up. I just, I think that was the biggest thing is that I just did not want it to fail and I knew that we were onto something. I mean I had known that we were really on the cost of some major growth, that the country was sort of ready and just starting to be prepared to make big food changes and food habits and all of that, which all came true and being first to market with so important, which we were and I had grown up in the business. JS: So I had sort of, these were normal conversations in terms of business. It became intuitive to me on how to run a business and I had always been a leader my whole life. I mean I watched my parents be leaders and pioneers and pave the path for other immigrants and lead in their community. And of course in their businesses. You know, my greatest role model was my mother and she had started a deli two years after settling in the seventies, opened the first Russian deli, didn't speak English, really, you know, learned English, watching General Hospital actually, and started doing international deals all over the world and she was so brave and courageous. So I had these great examples and great role models. I thought the least I could do is sort of rise up and show them what they had kind of built. And I learned, yeah, I learned what I was made of. JS: I learned that I could really go through the fire and come out of it OK and come out stronger that I can persevere, that I'm tenacious, that I am resilient. All of those things. I knew that I was. I mean I knew that I was in the past, but I, this was like the challenge. You know, it was interesting because I had just run my first marathon the year before my dad passed away and he challenged me. He was like, you know, it started because we sponsored a lot of marathons and races. So I sort of saw, I was always athletic, but I had seen these people, old, young, all different body shapes running this crazy distance and I remember seeing like an 80, 90 year old man running and I thought, my gosh, if he can run a marathon, I should be able to do this. JS: You know, I'd been a figure skater for 15 years. I played tennis, I rode horses, I was super athletic but I'd never been a runner and not that distance. But picked up some shoes, started running and my dad saw me cross the finish line and he didn't believe that I was going to do it. He's like 26 miles, that's crazy. You would never be able to do it. And once he gave me that challenge I had to prove him wrong of course. And, and I did. And I thought that was a great lesson also for me and that, you know, I learned that I can challenge myself, set goals, that I don't have to be the first. You don't have to win the thing. I can still do it and have a great experience. And seeing him see me cross the finish line was very important for me as well. So I'm happy that he got to see that. I think it's probably a metaphor that at that point he knew that I could probably do anything at that point I think is what he realized. And I don't know, maybe it was just his time and mine. KG: I love the way you talked about yourself so confidently just now. Like I am tenacious, I am this, I am that like you seem to really know yourself and have that inner confidence, but I'm guessing it wasn't always that way. Did you ever have imposter syndrome when you were starting out as such a young female CEO? And if so, like what kind of pep talks did you give to yourself to pump yourself up before going into a room of these white American men and what would you recommend for other young females maybe just starting off in business, who have those same feelings of not being quite as confident as you are now? JS: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I had to work at it. I was not always so confident of course. It was a couple things. I had a few series of success, you know, I had a few wins behind me, so when you get good and sort of master something and you can feel yourself master it, that builds your confidence. So I had done that repeatedly over and over, whether that was, you know, public speaking or writing something or launching a new product or selling a new product. All of those things help build my confidence in business and then I started to realize that every person, no matter who they were, had something to offer to being in the room, that we were all there to learn a lesson from each other and so then it, I feel like it got equalized in my head. Maybe the other person didn't know, but all it took was for me to feel confident. JS: That didn't matter really what the other person felt. I started to see that I would show up in rooms and people wanted to hear from me. People wanted to hear what I thought about things. Think about like social media was blowing up, here I was a woman on social media, dominating social media because women were, you know, at the time when social media was sort of happening, and this is about when I was took over Lifeway, we really carved a place. Our voice really became powerful in, in social media. We're creating content, we're selling merchandise, starting businesses, all these things. And so I realized I had this asset to offer that and a certain skillset that all was very like intuitive that sometimes I saw men struggle with and so I started to feel like, okay, we each have something to offer, like you have a great skill in this area. JS: I have a skill in this area. And I felt like there was kind of greater currency in leveraging both of those and that we're kind of all equal. And I, it was these kinds of small thoughts in my head. And then of course having children really exponentially grew my confidence because now I couldn't even live in fear anymore. It was just absolutely not an option. I had to really rise because, you know, I have two little girls that I want to create a better world for them and the only way to do that is completely to let go of all fear and to live out my true life purpose and show them and model that for them because I really want that for them more than I want anything else is for them to be able to really live fearlessly and fiercely with all the power that they can take and to, to ask for as much power that they can. JS: We have a lot of work to make up for here as genders and, and uh, and for power. And so I spent time with various coaches. I had a group of other executives who, you know, gave me accountability that helped me in certain areas where I was challenged. I leaned on friends of course, and I have a really good support around me of people who help me when I'm not necessarily feeling at my best. And then I feel like, again, I've, I've just tried to learn like I don't think anything's really a failure or a mistake if you've learned something from it and I always want to find those lessons and so then it becomes a nice little dance that you do with the universe to keep building on those skills, keep shedding more, you know, more of that fear and just letting it go and really kind of getting to the essence of who you are, what you want to be, what you want to project out into the world, what you want mirrored back to you. Those are all kind of important things. I think that as I kind of think about the next decade, two decades of my life that I want to think about. KG: You mentioned wanting to be a good role model for your young girls in terms of how you grow the business and in terms of how you live fearlessly. Did you have any other female CEO role models that you looked up to when you were starting out or that you've developed over the past 16 years? JS: Yeah. Actually one was actually Christie Hefner here in Chicago. She so, so when was in college and I came home and my dad was watching CNN with a special of her being featured and my dad turned to me and said, look what she's done. She took over her father's company. I want you to do that. I want you to be like her. And I feel like that was a really important statement that he gave me. JS: It kinda gave me a good push to know that I could do it, that he wanted that for me, gave me a lot of confidence and so I did actually look at her life sort of how she carved out her role as a CEO and then we've become friends. So I definitely lean on her just for friendship, but advice and whatnot, mentorship. Um, and I've sought out many kind of female business groups and communities. Like the Fortune most powerful women community is a great one; here in Chicago there's the Chicago Network and C200 as a national one for females and in business. But there's so many now. I mean it's really great. It is so important, I think, you know, if you can't see it, you can't be at. And it's still so rare. I mean, and I think we just dropped 25 percent on the Fortune 500 list of female CEOs and there's only like, well there were 21 last time I looked. JS: I haven't checked the news in the last couple of days that keeps seeing those headlines. I'm guessing we dropped. So that's nothing. You know, we're less than 20 percent in Congress and there's only been like five female governors. I mean we're really underrepresented. Behind the camera, we’re like less than six percent or something. I mean, don't quote the numbers. It's been a while since I looked at them, but we're, you know, our stories are not really told our, we're not really visible. There's no like, like here I'm on the board of the Women's History Museum. There no single standing museum actually that represents the history of women's accomplishments and we've been doing and building this country and the world from the beginning of time. But there's nothing to point to concretely. And so I really start. I started noticing that there is just a lack of women in power, a lack of women in media, lack of women, you know, running heads of companies, a lack of female titans, a lack of women in every single area. JS: I mean we’re there, but our stories aren't told, but, and we're not there at equal numbers either. And likewise, you know, where are the men raising the kids? I mean they're there obviously, but I think when we reach gender parity, where it’s like 50/50 and equal responsibilities in the household and in corporations and whatnot and throughout government and all of these areas that I think we will have a better, safer, healthier world, a more peaceful world, a more, I don't know, meaningful world. And I think the time has come. I think the last eight, nine months have proved that we are not going to take it sitting down and that we're gonna come together, that we're stronger together. That, you know, when our voice collectively it's fierce, it’s unstoppable. The, you know, when many women come together, when the most powerful women come together and share the truth about their lives, about their accomplishments, about their challenges, about all of it, that the world actually stops and listens and starts to make changes. JS: I think we're just at the very beginning of this reckoning. I think there's going to be so many conversations. So I think the next generation, I have personally acted in a way that I have wanted to evolve, not just for myself but for the next generation. I think I, you know, I've personally been an activist since I was 15. I am exhausted. I am personally exhausted for the last 30 some years and I think it's really great that the next generation has been activated and has been empowered with tools, with social media, with role models, with voices, with many of us pulling them up and saying, yeah, go talk, share, go. You know, go do all the really important things. Hold men accountable. I think that is when we start to change the world. And so if I could have just done that for my girls, if they speak loudly and demand for some of these changes, then that's a good thing. KG: When it comes to being empowered to find your voice and listen to your intuition, I feel like that's a lot easier said than done. And I know that's something that you sort of hinted at it at the beginning of this interview was how kefir can actually help you listen to your gut, not just because it's good for your gut health, but it might help you find your intuition and you know, dive into that mental benefit as well. So I'm curious to know what some of the strategies you've developed for actually listening to your gut are in honing your intuition as a woman throughout the years as a CEO. Yeah. I'm really just interested to hear about listening to your gut as it is. JS: Yeah. That actually listening to my gut has become a really fun way to live. More and more, I feel that there are no coincidences, that everything is sort of happening for a reason, that we're living these sort of alternative universe lives, multiple lives, whatever. I know it sounds so crazy, but whatever. I feel like, well, we're so distracted from these, our intuition. We run such busy lives. We're completely on social media or in our electronics, just in our electronics, actually. We, I personally have sort of lost sight of my own intuition and it took me a minute to stop and actually lose my phone for three days in Tulum. I shared this story in the book and it took me these three days where I lost my phone, had to get in touch with myself, had to rely on friends and community to get me from out of Mexico into New York with no money, no phone, no nothing, and for a couple of days just shut down and think. And I healed parts of my body and it was like sort of the universe doing a wake up call like Julie, stop, stop, slow down, stop, listen to yourself, listen to your body, you’re spinning out of control. JS: And I was, I was completely setting and I was processing a lot of things that were kind of going on in the last couple of years. And finally the world took my phone away and made me pause and a lot of things started to come to me. And I started taking notes and I started journaling and went inward. I meditated, I did yoga, you know, over these three days. And I had had this really bad hip pain for about six years and I kept blaming it on my pregnancy and I started realizing that it had nothing to do with my pregnancy but more to do with a whole lot of shame and all these other various issues. And I remember doing this meditation and just this moment of like release and this feeling just left me and it just walked away into the ocean because we were oceanside. And I started to like cry. JS: Like I was sobbing. And the next day I notice I'm walking around through the sand and my hip doesn't hurt. And I'm like, wait, this is so weird. If my hip doesn't hurt. And then it basically has kind of stayed that way and I think that was this moment of following my intuition where I didn't have time to go to this conference. I went to Tulum to do this, this thing. It was like not the best time for me to do it, but I just said, you know what? The universe just is gonna give me what I need. I don't know what I need, but you know, I'm just going to go and I'm just gonna let it happen. And it did and it, the universe gave me exactly what I needed and it's this thing, this is this, this moment of following my gut. And I started realizing that I'd actually done it all all the time. JS: I just didn't know I was doing it. And as I look back now, hindsight 20/20, I see all these moments where I followed my gut were something intuitively something called to me. And every time when I didn't listen, I made a mistake and I started realizing over and over again that the times that I've talked myself out of things that I have wanted to do, that I, my heart pulled me to. I lived in pain and suffering and when I started to get in touch with those feelings, both not living intuitively and living intuitively, it was night and day and the, I don't want to say luck because everything is hard work. And I—somebody just said this, I think it was Shonda Rimes just that, don't use the word luck. It cheapens all my hard work. And that's absolutely true. It's like I worked really hard to get to this point and now it's just continuing to ask myself these questions, giving myself time to think and feel. JS: Mostly, uh, I think I've mostly lived in my mind, in my head and letting my intuition lead me now is so much more intuitive, but it's, it's very natural. It's, and it's, I think a skill set that women have because we have an amazing intuition. We have this maternal female intuition that is very hard to touch and once you realize it, it's unstoppable and it's, I think a skill that will be leveraged and can be monetized. I think corporations want that because you can go to all the Harvard schools and Ivy League schools and you can run every spreadsheet in the world, but there are some things that you need to like know intuitively in your heart. That's a very magical, special gift and I think many of us have it, which is a lot of intuitives in the world. I think that's a skill that will continue to be important in our world. JS: But yeah, so you know, writing, taking time, processing, making positive food choices, you know, living sorta as clean of a life as I could. A couple glasses of wine never hurt anybody. Taking time to exercise and rest. Exercise, like I love running, I love spinning, or you know, I do SoulCycle. These are the times when I do get to focus on my heart and my emotions and my feelings and what I think sort of are, are things that I want to work on, accomplish challenge, learned from all of it. I think that's really what it's all about. That on I, once I started to realize that impact that food had and specifically key fair because it is just the easiest—when I learned about now what we're learning about the microbiome, I am blown away by how, how important having that second the gut, which we call a second brain now, how important when that's running well, when it's healthy, it's like magic the way that you move through the world. It's really, really special and I think it's a lifelong process. I don't think it's like, OK, I'm going to do this for a week. It's forever. It is for me at least that I think it's like healing myself is sort of healing my community. That again, I think about when I, we’re all just like mirrors for each other. So if I crave a healthy, safe world where you know there's love and there's abundance and there's safety and spirituality, then that's what I need to find in myself so that I can see that. So that became really important to me and yeah, I think there's just these basic elements we have to live for lifestyle, forever, and that's it. Leave the next generation with the same, you know, these lessons and tools. Like I feel like I definitely banged my head against the wall for a long time and it took me awhile to sort of learn this, but I've done it actually fairly early. JS: A lot of people do it much later in life. I was kind pushed into learning this probably a lot quicker than many people do. So I think if I can expedite that process for other people, like I just think, think about the evolution that can happen so much quicker. You know, when younger people are at this level already in their teens or in their 20s, what else can they do when they're not spending so much time healing? Because that it is exhausting. It is absolutely exhausting to get to this place, but it's a lot of work, but there's so many great rewards. I'm almost there, almost reached what I wanted to do. KG: Well, you’ve inspired me to go chuck my phone out a window the next chance I get, but in the meantime I feel like we could talk to you forever about your perspective as an immigrant, as a female CEO, as an activist, as a mom, but we have to wrap this up eventually, so we'll have to save some for the next part, the next part 2 of having Julie on the podcast, someday. We’ll close with the question that we ask everybody who comes on this, which is part two of our intro question: What's a big goal that you have for the future? Why is it important to you and what steps are you taking to get there today? JS: Oh boy, there’s, I mean, just one is too hard. I want to write another book. Eventually I want to write sort of my memoirs. There's still a handful of years I feel that I need to live and a few more chapters left to right before I really do that. Mostly right now I'm focused on of course growing my business, but that's, that's actually not that hard. I mean, it is, it's hard. Of course it's always hard, but you know that I feel like I could do with fairly smoothly. JS: I've mostly spent the last 16 plus, even 20 years if you add at the beginning of my career. I've spent the last 20 years focused on my career and then growing my family. I think right now I'm really focused on my heart and myself and healing myself, healing my community of course, um, was a sort of in a lot that's happened for me personally in the last couple of years. I'm just trying to process it. I want to enjoy the work that I've done and the energy that I've put out and sort of sit back and watch how, how that looks and see all of this effort and celebrate it. And I guess I want to just fall in love in the deepest, most sacred way. And that's probably with myself. That seems to be really important to me right now. I think it's time to really, really deeply, I guess fall in love with myself and the world. KG: I think that's a perfect sentiment to end on. Julie, thank you so much for being here today. Where can we find the Kefir Cookbook? JS: So the Kefir Cookbook is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Whole Foods has it on the shelf. Independent bookstores, you know, all the places that you buy your books. KG: Perfect. Well, I know we're looking forward to trying out the recipes and again, thank you so much for being here with us today on the #WeGotGoals podcast. JS: Thank you so much for having me. CK: Great. Hey goal getters. This is co-host and producer Cindy Kuzma here.We’re about to play another one of your goals. This one was also recorded live at the Hotel Moxy. We've got a few more coming up for you in the weeks ahead that we recorded live at the Michelob Ultra SweatWorkingWeek Fitness Festival a couple weeks ago as well. Stay tuned too because soon we are going to have a way for you to email or call us with your goals and you can be a part of this very podcast. Thank you so much for listening. And here is your goal. JB: My name is Jaime black. I am a podcaster based in Chicago. CK: Excellent. And Jaime, what is a big goal that you have accomplished and how did you get there or what is the goal you have for the future? JB: That's a good question. I was just, I was just told about 40 seconds ago that I'm doing this. So, um, you know, for me a big goal that I have ahead of me this year is a—well I guess I should say this, a big goal I had recently in the last year was setting up a podcasting class. I teach a podcasting class through a few different platforms like AirBN&B experiences and Dabble. And so getting that up and running was a goal in 2017 and now that that is running, you know, the way that it works is people physically come to my studio space in Pilsen and take the class in person. So my new goal for this year is to really get the, um, the online component of that class active. I have it on one platform. There's like three or four other platforms I'm trying to get it on. So just building the podcasting class that people can take it in person or online and you know, like we're here today because of all the podcast stuff, everything I do is just podcasts related. CK: So, but ah, getting that online presence. So that's like a multifaceted goal, right? Because first you have to figure out the technology and then you have to figure out the marketing. So what are some of the things that you're doing to, to bring that all together? JB: Yeah, there's a lot of steps to building an online class and I'm very new to it. I have it on one platform called teachable. And that was a learning experience because I do a lot of audio work, but I don't do a lot of video work. So taking a class that I teach, it's three hours long and building video content around that when again, I'm not a video producer first and foremost, that was a learning experience and now now that it happened on one platform, I've got to reformat in and kind of retool it so that it could live on a few different platforms. Each of which have their own format and model and you know, kind of activation level. So, you know, it's just plugging these things into different platforms. And uh, and then once it's even alive, then of course you have to actually, like you said, market it, get it out there. And that's just the beginning of getting it just posted on a platform. CK: So how do you plan to get the word out? JB: I think I want to tell me like, just promoted on youtube and I'm like, Oh man, it's going to be more video work, isn't it? But I think, yeah, I think that's what it's going to come down to as short video clips that are going, like help promote and talk about the class and you know, how it can help people learn how to podcast because we're here today because podcasting is really great. So this is a really good time to learn how to become a podcaster because there are resources like this booth here at the Moxy Chicago. Um, and it's just in general, it's, we're in this time now where people are really passionate about podcasts and a lot of people are really finding them. CK: It's true, it's true. So how do people find you and your classes? JB: Yeah, great question. So you can look at dynastypodcasts.com, it's plural. So dynastypodcasts.com with the s at the end of podcasts. I'm, we've got links to the class there and I'm always active on twitter. My twitter is Jamie black, jaimeblack. So I'm always posting my links. If you see me go six hours, without tweeting, like call my parents, something's really wrong, so yeah. CK: Awesome Jamie, well thank you for all of your help here today and thank you so much for sharing your goal. JB: Well thank you for letting me help with this podcast. CK: This podcast was produced by me, Cindy Kuzma, and it's another thing that's better with friends, so please share it with yours. You can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and if you have a chance to leave us a rating and a review while you're there, we would really appreciate it. Special thanks to J. Mano for our theme music; to our guest this week, Julie Smolansky; and to TechNexus for the recording studio.  

The Nuanced Life
Surviving Holiday Conversations

The Nuanced Life

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2017 43:44


Today, we dive into love and relationships in our first block. Beth talk about The Other Woman Speaks and the transformative power of seeing people in the midst of struggles. Sarah discusses Oprah's SuperSoul Conversation with Shonda Rimes and the decision to marry or not (in the course of that discussion, we mention this episode of Freakonomics). In our feature segment, we discuss the perils of the holidays! To attend or not attend this event? To talk politics or not? We have some very strong feelings and tips and tricks to get you through the next few months. We end with Dr. Kent M. Keith's Paradoxical Commandments. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The Ezra Klein Show
Ai-jen Poo: the future of work isn’t robots. It’s caring humans.

The Ezra Klein Show

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2017 67:10


When we talk about the future of work, we usually focus on artificial intelligence, robotics, driverless cars. The future of work, we’re told, is a future where humans cease to be necessary. Ai-jen Poo wants to refocus that conversation. When we think about the future of work, she says, we need to think about care workers. Home care work — caring for the elderly and for children — is the fastest-growing occupation in the entire workforce, expanding at five times the rate of any other job. By the year 2030, child care and elder care jobs will be our economy's single largest occupation. If you’re talking about the future of work and you’re not talking about care work, you’re doing it wrong. Poo is a MacArthur "genius" grant-winning activist and organizer. She began her career in New York City, organizing domestic workers, and eventually lobbied New York state to pass the Domestic Workers Bill of Rights. Thanks to her efforts, seven other states have now passed similar legislation. Today, Poo is the executive director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance, the co-director of Caring Across Generations, and the author of The Age of Dignity: Preparing for the Elder Boom in a Changing America. In this episode, we talk about how she managed to organize a population of workers that spend most of their lives behind closed doors, why she calls herself a "futurist," and the central paradox of care work in America — that the folks who care for those we love are often the most undervalued and least protected. Books: Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End by Atul Gawande Year of Yes by Shonda Rimes, My Life on the Road by Gloria Steinem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

WAFLcast
WAFLcast B-Side #12 - "Never Go Full Sitcom!"

WAFLcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2017 77:30


On this "B-Side" episode, the hosts ask (and answer) the hard hitting question: "Just what in the hell happened to ABC?!" They trek into ABC's history of programming and discover a fundamental problem with the network that's revealing itself with each passing season. Topics include: The Inhumans series failing their Marvel audience, creating diverse content over weeks of programming, and the occasional rant over Netflix not giving us the boxsets you know you wanna buy. They also take on ranking ABC's top and brightest showrunner Shonda Rimes' content by stacking her shows against each other in a tournament style competition! How will they do that, you gotta listen to find out!

The Resilient Lawyer with Jeena Cho
RL 59: Aditi Juneja — Understanding Self Care and the Role of Privilege

The Resilient Lawyer with Jeena Cho

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2017 51:06


In this episode, I had the pleasure of interviewing Aditi Juneja. Aditi is a lawyer, an immigrant, and a feminist who formerly led/co-created Resistance Manual and OurStates.org. Topics Covered Her background as both a lawyer and an activist, and how she noticed the disconnect between the purposes and the aims of criminal law and how it was being implemented. Aspects of her advocacy job that lead to her founding of the Resistance Manual and her Self Care Sundays podcast. How self-care is about having the tools, resources, and practices that allow you to thrive in this world and how our identities shape how we see self-care. How privilege plays a role in skewing our views of self-care and how to engage a conversation on privilege which is productive. You can learn more about Aditi Juneja at: Her Website: https://aditijuneja.me/ Her Podcast: www.selfcaresundays.com Twitter: @aditijuneja3   Questions? Comments? Email Jeena! hello@jeenacho.com. You can also connect with Jeena on Twitter: @Jeena_Cho For more information, visit: jeenacho.com Order The Anxious Lawyer book? Available in hardcover, Kindle, and Audible Find Your Ease: Retreat for Lawyers I'm creating a retreat that will provide a perfect gift of relaxation and rejuvenation with an intimate group of lawyers. Interested? Please complete this form: https://jeena3.typeform.com/to/VXfIXq MINDFUL PAUSE: Bite-Sized Practices for Cultivating More Joy and Focus 5-week program. Spend just 6 minutes every day to practice mindfulness and meditation. Decrease stress/anxiety, increase focus and concentration. Interested? Please complete this form: https://jeena3.typeform.com/to/gLlo7b Sponsor: Spotlight Branding provides internet marketing services exclusively for solo & small law firms. Unlike most internet marketing firms, they do NOT focus on SEO. Instead, they specialize in branding their clients as trusted, credible experts, increasing referrals, and ultimately driving growth. For our listeners, Spotlight Branding is offering a complimentary website review. Go to: SpotlightBranding.com/trl Check out this episode! Transcript Intro: Today's show is sponsored by Spotlight Branding. Spotlight Branding works exclusively with solo and small law firms to brand them as trusted, credible experts and help them stand out in a crowded marketplace. Their services include web design, social media, video marketing and more. Aditi: She said, "I try to get rid of the blame and the shame and kind of explain that, being born white is like being born with access to a country club. Like, it's not that you did anything to deserve it; you just kind of have it. But, by having it that means you have access to certain things that other people don't." Intro: Welcome to The Resilient Lawyer podcast. In this podcast we have meaningful, in-depth conversations with lawyers, entrepreneurs, and change agents. We offer tools and strategies for creating a more joyful and satisfying life. And now your host, Jeena Cho. Aditi: I am Aditi Juneja. I am the creator and the host of the Self-Care Sunday's podcast, and I co-created The Resistance Manual and OurStates.org as well. Jeena: Wow, that's quite a list. Well, tell me about Self-Care Sunday. Where did that idea come from and tell the listeners a little bit about the project? Aditi: So the Self-Care Sunday's podcast came out of the activist work that I was doing and realizing that I was really just tired and exhausted and feeling like I didn't know how to do this work in a sustainable way. And I thought that I should probably figure that out in order to try to avoid burn-out and to make sure that I was being as effective as I could be. So I thought, you know, the way I would learn was to talk to activists, lawyers, entrepreneurs, artists, all kinds of folks about how they did self-care and how they sustain their work. And then it occurred to me that if I was having this problem that others must be too. So if I recorded the conversations I was having in the form of a podcast and I shared them that perhaps that would have some utility. So that was how that podcast was born. Jeena: Tell me about the activist work that you are doing. Aditi: So I had been, I was in my third year of law school. I had been interested in criminal justice reform, I had worked at a DA's office for a couple of years prior to law school. In law school, I had focused mostly on criminal justice reform work. I had written a note on that topic and particularly on prosecutorial reform. But after the election, it seemed like the shift needed, that there needs to be a shift, I needed to broaden my focus a little bit. So I started just kind of collecting, tracking information trying to understand the various policies that were being proposed by the incoming administration and the processes to enact them, so I didn't know how budget reconciliation worked for example, so I was trying to understand that, understand where the opportunities were for activism, and I shared that with Stay Woke, which is an organization that was born out of the movement for Black Lives, and they thought that what I was collecting that information would be really useful and that if we could create a crowd-sourced platform that might serve as a useful resource for other folks who were joining what was the nascent resistance movement. So that rather than everyone researching every individual policy themselves, we could have a collective, you know, a shared space for that information and that we could kind of build on the work of each other instead of duplicating efforts. Jeena: Yeah that makes a lot of sense. What got you interested in criminal justice reform? Aditi: I think I...so I had it, I was always interested in criminal justice generally, but I don't know why. I look back through high school; maybe it was a mock trial, I don't know, it was a lot of different things. But I had always had that interest. But in college, I had the opportunity after my junior year to intern with a superior court judge in New Jersey who was in the criminal court system. And during that time I was sitting in chambers and then talking to prosecutors and defense attorneys. And I got to hear their opinions about how the system was working, and also importantly how it was not working. And so after I left college I spent my first two years as a paralegal in the Manhattan DA's office in the Early Case Assessment Bureau, so I was writing up complaints about the cases that everyone hates. You know, the fair-beating cases, the shoplifting cases, the "feet on the seats" cases and all that. And even when I was there it felt to me like, you know, we were enforcing the law. I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong. I didn't feel guilty about it. But after I left and started law school, with the perspective of distance and time and then also just the legal education, the opportunity to consider why do we have laws? What is the purpose of the criminal law? Like what is mens rea? What is actus reus? What is the point of all of this? You know, kind of having that framework made me think about it more critically and, particularly, be able to apply it not just, I wasn't just learning about it in a theoretical sense, I was able to then take that framework and that theory I was learning in law school and apply it to what I had seen working in the DA's office and I realized that there was quite a large disconnect between the purposes and the aims of criminal law. And what I had seen actually happen, so I was very quickly interested in reform work and trying to understand what the issues were in the system and how it might be improved. Jeena: Saying more about the disconnect, can you give a concrete example of how the law should work versus how it was actually being implemented? Aditi: So a lot of the cases I was writing up as a paralegal, it was non-victim misdemeanors, so it was what we would consider or what was called broken windows, policing quality of life crimes and the idea, at least in my understanding, was that by lowering the rates of quality of life, crimes in New York City were just, where I was working, that it would then reduce violent crime overall. But there was no nexus between those two things, there is no provable nexus between those two things. And so, for me it felt like a lot of times I would see cases right, where for example, in New York State there's a law about gravity knives, which are the kinds of knives that if you flip out the blade, the blade just flips out, like you don't have to push a button or anything it just flips out. And there's a law against possession of them, but half of the people who possess them said, "I was like coming home from work. I work as a construction worker. I have this job." And of course, one could think that people are lying about it, but it often felt like you're arresting people who have these as tools for their jobs. Thinking that you're thinking that, you know that this law was written at a time or with the idea and understanding that you're going to prevent violence, but most of these people are literally just possessing them for the purpose of their job. And the way that you're stopping them and noticing that people have them is because you're seeing the clip in their pant pocket. And so it's not that someone is like, holding it out or doing something with it. You're stopping them and so, you know, I would hear police officers talk about pressure to have a certain number of arrests per month. An unspoken pressure, it's not a quota but a pressure that they felt to have a certain number of arrests per month. And to me, I was like, wouldn't the goal of the criminal justice system be that we have fewer arrests— isn't that supposed to be a good thing? Because that means that less crime is happening or that you were able to resolve an issue without making an arrest, without it escalating to the point of an arrest, you know. And so the measures of success, the metrics that we use to understand how safe or unsafe a community is, and how issues are being resolved, to me just all felt flawed. And it was never an issue of an, I mean it was most often not the issue of an individual, right? It was, the police officer's following the law as he understands it, the prosecutor, or in my case, the paralegal is writing up a complaint based on their understanding of the policies and procedures of the office and what the law says. But somehow the people who are being arrested are not the people that I'm most concerned about. You know, in our society it's often, it felt like it was often those who, you know, happen to be out in public didn't have the privacy of their own homes, didn't have the money to make bail. And that to me felt like something was just off. Jeena: Yeah. I definitely feel like I saw a lot of that when I was an Assistant State Attorney, where I was like I don't think that's what the law was actually intended to do. Like for example, in Florida, there is a crime. It was a misdemeanor for driving without a valid license which, you know from a majority of us just might get your driver's license expired and you have to go and get it fixed. But often how it was actually used was to punish undocumented workers who, of course, can't legally get driver's licenses. So these people ended up with very, very long jail sentences. Whereas for everybody else, all they had to do was just go and get their driver's license renewed and then come back and just show the proof. But that wasn't the intent of the law, right? The intent of the law was not to prosecute or to criminalize people that are there as an undocumented worker. And in Florida, there are lots of them. So yeah. Aditi: Yeah and there's just this feeling too of you know, I'm a citizen obviously as well of the state that I'm living and working in, and so you know I would you know I would see the kinds of cases that I was writing about, but I was like, "This is how police officers are spending their time?" This is not like, this does not make me feel safer as I walk home at night. You know like, I'm not I'm like you know I would sometimes be a little bit sarcastic with police officers. I'd be like, "Really? Like, I feel so much safer knowing you're on the street arresting people for this. Like what, what are you doing?" And of course, it was often not the individual's fault. It was really the policy and the incentives of the systems. And so I started kind of, you know getting really interested in what are the incentive structures and what are the systems that are at play here that are leading these to these kinds of absurd results. Jeena: Yeah, yeah. So let's go back to self-care. Were there any particular aspects of doing the advocacy job where you kind of felt like you needed to practice self-care? Like what was the impetus for you recognizing that? Like, "Hey I need some additional tools to be able to continue to do the work that I'm doing effectively." Aditi: We've co-founded The Resistance Manual and it launched right around the inauguration, so it was like January 20th. So I was a third-semester law student running an organization of 300 people. And I was just overwhelmed. It was really a time thing that I was like, I just don't have the time to be attending whatever it was, four or five classes, writing papers, and like all of that while supervising, facilitating, coordinating the work of 300 volunteers for this monster of a project that I created. And I was just very, it was really a time crunch and I felt like because I was the person who had created it, it was the vision, it was new. You know, there was no internal infrastructure; there was no like HR to refer people to. Right? Like I was the person with all, you know who had answered all the questions and I was kind of perpetually on call. And especially in the early months of the administration, now we've almost gotten used to it. But like, the fact that there was a crisis every day was like...now we're kind of like, "Well there's a crisis every day." That has somehow become normal but like, when we first started that was definitely not normal. We were like, "What the hell?" Every moment you're just on, and first the Muslim ban, Paris agreement, and it was just always something. And there were lots of leaks early on of proposed executive orders. And so I was, fortunately, kind of, I'm a systems thinker so I was really trying to like figure out like how do I create systems to handle these things. You know, building teams, creating a layer of team leaders, an FAQ document, a principles and guidelines document, like really trying to create a process to kind of absorb some of the questions and confusion that was existing in the organization I was building but it was still just a lot. And it was this feeling of, you think you're doing work that's important and matters. But at the same time, no one had done what I was doing before. Lots of people had done organizing before, but no one had created a policy platform before in the way that The Resistance Manual existed and with the purpose of being targeted to the general public. So, of course, you have think tanks that issue reports and stuff, but no one had created what we were trying to do. So I was just in this constant state of like, I have no idea what I'm doing. And it's not as though, I can ask others who have built new things, but it's not as though I can ask someone who has done this before because no one has done this before. And so, I was like looking for ways to keep myself calm, keep myself focused, not to feel guilty. You know, just to just kind of get through. It was very overwhelming. And so I was trying to, and also the first time I had ever led anything, it was the first time I was doing press. That was the first time that had happened, I was talking to political directors of huge national organizations and I was like, I don't know what the hell is even happening in my life right now. So it didn't just work, it was also, suddenly I'm in the paper, suddenly my Twitter profile's verified, people care what I have to say like it was a lot at once and I was looking for just a way to get through. Jeena: Yeah, yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Maybe we can back up, like way, way, way, way back and kind of talk about, you know when you talk about self-care, like what does self-care mean to you? Aditi: So to me, self-care is about having the tools, the resources, the time, the practices that allow you to thrive in this world. And that was another big impetus of the podcast, was whenever I would see people talking about self-care and how you thrive and kind of being calm. It was often like stuff that required money, like go get a massage, go do a manicure. Like you know, or and it was like, and the pictures were always of like, white women with blond hair doing yoga. And I was like I don't know, I'm a law student I don't have the money to get a massage every day. And I just, I didn't feel like the resources that were available was speaking to someone like me. And particularly because of the work that I was doing, it was really about elevating the voices of those most marginalized and vulnerable. I was like, I still have a fair amount of privilege, right? Like I was in law school, I had access, I had resources, there's a meditation space at NYU Law. Like you know, I had tools at my disposal. But I was like what happens to, you know I was working closely with Fight for $15 on some things; I was like what happens to the fast food worker? How do they do self-care? Who's asking that question, you know? And so I wanted to, I wanted to have space where we could talk about self-care not just for people like me but also for people with less privilege than me. Because I was like, how are we expecting people to participate in this work long-term in a sustainable way without giving them kind of resiliency tools? Jeena: Yeah, so you have done a lot of different interviews. You know, what were some of the highlights? What were some things that people shared with you where you were like, "That is such a great idea!" Or something that you know really is accessible to everyone. Aditi: So I didn't have really any framework for this going in. So for me, everything was mind-blowing, so you can definitely see the trajectory of my growth in the episodes because my questions get deeper. Because when they started I'm like, "So what does this mean to you?" Like it was very, very basic and then it got deeper and it wasn't fake it was very real. But I realized that a lot of people's ideas about self-care and who's allowed to do self-care and how you're allowed to do self-care comes from their families, so a lot of the people early on would talk about their mothers a lot, like people like the first five episodes. Everyone was saying like, "I saw my mom do this," or, "I saw my mom not do this and I had to learn that I could do that even though my mom didn't." So then for episode six, I interviewed my mom because I was like if I was talking about their mom let's find out what my mom has to say about this stuff. And so I realized that you know what you see growing up really informs the way that you kind of create your baseline for how you think about this. And especially I think it's quite gendered, like labor itself is gendered. But then also spaces for care or not who is expected to do emotional labor, who are expected to do different types of work, it's highly gendered so I thought it was interesting to talk my mom. But then I realized I was interviewing mostly women. And then I was like, well then I think if gender is playing a large component in this than I should probably talk to someone about masculinity, right? So then I had someone from The Love Army on and we talked about masculinity and how you know, how the concept of masculinity obviously affects women too but it's just about how having emotions is frowned upon, how you're not taken seriously if you have feelings, right? And so if you don't have space to deal with your feelings, that tends not to end well for people. People you know, then they have breakdowns, they lash out, they get angry, they get violent. I mean their feelings go somewhere, they don't just disappear. And so that became an inquiry. And then we were talking to a lot of people of color early on. And so then a lot of it was about like a lot of the conversation had to do with race and how again, there are tropes about you know, model minorities, the strong black woman, like the feisty Latina, like they're all these kind of racial tropes. So then I interviewed a white person about white privilege and white guilt and I was like, "So what is this thing of white guilt? Because it seems to be very unproductive, like how does that work?" And so it became, it was about self-care but it was about self-care for all people...which means that you're doing these kinds of social justice inquiries about like, how do our identities shape the way that we think about self-care, and what we feel like we're allowed to do or not allowed. So later on we did an episode with someone talking about representation in media and like, how often do you see people seeing therapists on TV and who are the people who are seeing therapists on TV, and who are the people who are therapists on TV and what does that teach us about what self-care can look like or not look like for different types of people. Jeena: Right. And I think that's a huge issue just the, from the whiteness. Well not only white, but also just white females or I think makes up a huge bulk of people that become therapists, right. So I think that then there is like this implicit message that says, well if you're a person of color then maybe you're not welcome in that space or that you're not entitled to getting that help. I don't know, I do think that there is some sort of like an underlying message that goes along with just so many therapists being a white female. Aditi: Yeah, I definitely agree and I think also just that you know on tv shows I think like sometimes you see white people do like see a therapist. Like I was re-watching The West Wing, like the President and his you know, Deputy Chief of Staff on that tv show. Got to, they brought someone in from ATVA you know, after a trauma and they were men but they got to have therapy. But it was very rare and very recent that you started seeing people of color on tv seeking out therapy when they're not in crisis, right. Like I'm not in drug rehabilitation, talking about just like, "I could you know, my life could be better. Maybe I should talk to someone." You know, and there is a good kind of plot-line on the TV show Insecure which is by Issa Rae. And it was her best friend on the show Molly, who's a black woman, and kind-of this whole thing about like therapy is not for me. And they really kind of contended and wrestled with like, who is therapy for? Is it weird that I'm doing therapy? Like, you only do therapy if you're all screwed up. And like, kind of these tropes and these stereotypes and these impressions of that. And so I think you know, the nice thing on the Self-Care Sundays podcast was because it was really just me and my microphone and whoever would be willing to join me, I really had the freedom to seek out the conversations that felt salient and kind of allow it to guide itself and see you know, well we haven't talked about this kind of person or this person brought this up and that was really interesting and I wonder what you know, someone else would say about that. And so I think that was, my understanding evolved and then I kind of sought out guests that I thought would further the conversation and kind of keep the ball rolling forward. Jeena: What does your self-care practice look like? Aditi: I think my self-care practice is constantly evolving. I try to set new goals. I'm not the best and especially because I just graduated law school so now I'm starting to work. So I think it's kind of like, re-visiting you know what I want it to look like. I meditate, which I find helpful I write, which helps me to think kind of clearly. If I'm trying to go through thoughts in my head, it doesn't work well. I've done therapy, which helped me to be less fixated on things, helped me to realize like there are things that I can't control and I need to let stuff go because I have lawyer type-A personality of everything must be done you know, the way that I can do anything, I can fix anything like and realize that that's not true. I think, realizing through the podcast and the activist work was just that boundaries are really important, so like there are just some things that you can't do. I started making frequent use of the word "unsolicited" much to my parent's chagrin, where I'm just like, "That was unsolicited, I did not ask for your advice on that. I do not want your advice. No thank you." And I think you know because I actually was a few years ago I think my therapist and I were talking and I said something. And I said, "I don't know, it's like men just feel that they can just tell us stuff.” And she's like, "Yeah. But we also allow them to tell us stuff." And I was like, "You're right. We should just start telling them that their opinions are unsolicited." And so that just became like my favorite word that I would just tell them, like, "I did not ask you that, please go away." And I think for me, the boundary component of it, the meditation, the kind of quiet time because I'm like often really just going, go go go mode. So learning to sit in quiet for me has been a big change. And then writing to kind of get some clarity of thought. And I had noticed that in my journals I would often only be writing when something bad happened, and so I kind of made a commitment just like this month that I wanted to start writing every day, regardless of what was happening. Because I didn't want to just be writing to baseline, I wanted to be writing also to allow myself to reflect and grow and pushing myself. Getting a new website design can be a huge pain. But, what if I told you that building a new website for your law firm didn't have to suck? My friends at Spotlight Branding pride themselves on their responsiveness, on great communication, and on delivering results for their clients. And, Spotlight Branding doesn't lock their clients into long-term contracts. In fact, they offer a no-risk, money-back guarantee on their work so that you can have total peace of mind while you work with them. 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Jeena: And then the self-care space, in what ways does privilege play out? Aditi: So I think there has been, you know we've taken care of ourselves and each other like through human history like that's just always been true. But there has been a real co-modification of self-care and industry built around it. When I was you know, five or six, people used to make fun of me for being Indian. Now like, everyone does yoga and I'm like, y'all do know where it came from? There's lots of appropriation. People say "namaste" and most don't know that it's a Hindi word. It's kind of strange to me. You know, living my immigrant experience, seeing the ways, it's been kind-of you know, those self-care practices have been co-opted by and then monetized. So I think you know, there's privilege about access to those practices but also just about you know, when we're talking about representation, about how people think about who gets to do self-care. So what's interesting to me is that, in my podcast when I was interviewing people, it was often those who you would imagine had less privilege who would say you don't need a lot of privilege to practice self-care, that you can you know, go outside for five minutes, you can take a walk, you can make a mug of tea. And they would really push back on the notion that you need the privilege to practice self-care, but would concede that oftentimes there's an issue of time, but also just of mentality that you don't feel that you are allowed to practice self-care, because the way it's marketed, the way it's discussed, really requires resources. That people say, "Oh you know, here you know, enjoy your self-care with this bubble bath, enjoy your self-care with this manicure." Like it though, it's marketed, the language of self-care has been marketed and is often tied to a product or a service that you buy. And so people have you know, people feel like they don't have access to it when oftentimes you know, religious services for a lot of people for very long time have served as a form of fortification and self-care and renewal and replenishment of the soul. You know and so there's, but because there's like this now market and this language and this industry around self-care, people sometimes with less privilege don't feel like their ways of practicing self-care are not valuable not valid, they don't count. And so I wanted to create a space where all self-care counts and you work with what you have and that's valid and that's valuable. And I wanted and I intentionally made sure that I was trying to speak to people across different types of privilege or lack of privilege so that there was really an array of practices being shared and discussed so people felt like, the hope was that people would be able to find an entry point, that they would hear something that resonated with them. Whether that's about like, making art or getting a massage or taking a walk or being outside or a cup of tea or you know, whatever it is, that something would click with them where they would say, "Oh yeah, I do that," or, "Yeah I could do that." You know, and that would kind of help begin someone's journey into thinking about self-care. Jeena: Yeah so, I don't know if you get the sense too like there is this sense that now like, you need somebody else to tell you how to do self-care. Like someone has this magical list of like, proper or correct ways to do self-care and you better check against that list before you venture on this thing called self-care, because what if you're not doing it correctly. Aditi: Yeah that's weird. That's definitely a weird thing that has, I think, I don't know if it's related to but at least feels related to the performative digital media culture that we live in. Which is like, you know it's like, you couldn't have made. like it's like my sister for example, when she cooks she takes pictures so my parents think I don't cook because I don't send them pictures when I cook. There's like a phrase like "pictures or it didn't happen." And it's like no, it still happened. Like life does not work in accordance to what's on my Instagram, right? But I think that if you live in a world, as I think a lot of particularly young people do, where that like, you know I'm 26. So for me, I at least remember a time before we had internet. I remember when AIM came out and when AOL was new. But like, for people even three years younger than me, my sister's age, she doesn't remember when we used actual maps she always remembers MapQuest. So for her, you know for people who are digital natives, I'm just on the brink of that, where I remember not having it. But for people who are true digital natives, there really is this feeling of that there's a pressure like the peer pressure is different than I think what it was even just for me even just being a few years older. Where it's like, you know when we learned about peer pressure it was about like, don't let someone force you into drinking, just saying no to drugs, right? When my sister learned about peer pressure, it was about cyber-bullying after a horrific incident on the Rutgers campus where someone videotaped one of their roommates. You know, and engaging in a sex act with a gay person. It was just like a whole thing like there was like this whole big push around cyber-bullying and the way people dox each other. Like that wasn't a thing when I was, you know when I was in middle school r high school. Facebook, I got access to Facebook when I was 16. We weren't allowed before then; it was just for college students. So I just missed it. You know, I didn't go to high school with social media. But if you did it would be a thing of like, oh you're not at this party. There's a feeling of missing outright, you're not at this party, you didn't get invited to this thing. And so similarly I think for self-care it's like, you're not using the right face mask, you're not using the right meditation app, you're not drinking the right kind of flavored water. I don't know. I don't know what the things are, but it feels like it is part of this kind of performative "Keeping up with the Joneses" culture that our social media has exacerbated. But it doesn't need to. Jeena: Yeah, right. And I think it's important to emphasize that self-care can look very, very different for you then like, everybody else and that there are no norms for practicing self-care. I mean there may be certain themes that run through it, right? Or there may be some similarities, but that you don't need somebody else's permission to be able to practice self-care. Aditi: And also, what is self-care for you might actually be harmful to me and vice versa, right? Like so like for something really simple, like some people will say like for them self-care, we can thank, Shonda Rimes for this, is like you know, drinking a bottle of wine and watching Scandal, right? Like that could be your self-care, right? It's just like a little bit of an escapism and relaxing. For me, as a person with a seizure disorder, if I'm drinking a bottle of red wine, my body is not going to react well to that. That is the exact opposite of self-care to me. I mean my body's going to freak out if I do that. And so, like there are this kind-of really simple things that it's like, for you that's totally self-care and for me, that's a disaster. That's the exact opposite of self-care. I stopped drinking a few years ago and I have like, maybe one drink every now and then. And that was great self-care to me. But for other people you know, having a bottle of wine with a friend or while watching a tv show or a movie, that's self-care to them. And so I like that as an example because you can really see the starkness of how what works for someone just doesn't work for somebody else. And I think that was another benefit of really trying to have a diversity of guests on my podcast and as I was doing that inquiry was also to try to demonstrate and to represent the variety of life experiences and even other simple things like, you know artists will talk about self-care, I was like, if you ask me to paint that will not be self-care, that would be very stressful. I would be like, "I don't know how to do this. What do you mean? What are colors? Like what?" It would be stressful to me to paint, but for other people, their art is their self-care. And conversely, for someone you know, writing might be very stressful but for me, that's great self-care. And so I think that's, you know, I wasn't just trying to have representation across demographics or identities, but also just across practices and experiences because I thought you know, wouldn't it be great if I had a guest one week who said this was their self-care and the next week someone said when I stopped doing that, that was my self-care. Like, and for people to really realize you get to decide for yourself. I wanted to show that. Jeena: Yeah, and I think that's such an important message. What led to the decision to quit drinking? Aditi: It was just really bad for my epilepsy, it was like every time...I'm generally in life not good at moderation. And that's how you end up in your last semester of law school running an organization like that. I'm just not good at moderation. You know, you're not like, "Oh I know I'll join," you're like, "No I'll start." So for me, moderation has never been great, and I just realized that if I wanted to be healthy...it was my second year of law school. I had two seizures my first year of school. I was a class behind and I was like if I want to graduate in time, this needs to not be a part of my life. And now that it's been almost two years, like this summer I went on vacation with my mom and I had like one drink on two different nights, so now I feel like I can like moderate up. And it wasn't that I was drinking excessively. It was just that it, was just not worth it. It just wasn't like, there was very little joy in drinking for me. It wasn't that much fun. You wake up with a hangover, it's quite expensive. And for me there were these real health risks where if I was drinking in excess I could potentially have a seizure and it was just, it just wasn't worth it. Jeena: Yeah. Well, we can spend a little bit of time chatting about...I mean, one of the things that I am struggling with and what I think a lot of people struggle with this too, is you know like how to even have productive conversations about privilege, right? And it's a really hard conversation. And you know of course you've done a lot of activist work and you've thought a lot about this. You know, thoughts on how to like actually engage in this conversation about privilege in a way that's productive. So it's a couple of things. One is like boundaries, right? So there are people who will engage in the conversation with and people who I won't engage in conversation with is just like, a good place to start. So for me, I think that these days I don't really engage in conversations on privilege with white folks but I think it's really important for me to engage in conversations on privilege with other Asian-Americans, particularly Indian-Americans. I feel like that in-group dialogue is important because there's a connection there and I think I can be more impactful there. So just, and that's different for different people. I'm not saying that people need to set the same boundary, but I think having a boundary of when you will engage when you won't engage...because you can't be fighting with every stranger on the Internet. You will be tired. You just can't do that. Like it doesn't work. I think first, in order to even be able to engage in the conversation, you have to have the emotional resources to engage. Which means you have to decide that you're not going to engage some of the time. Right? Like, so in order to have the same conversation for the 801st time, I need to replenish myself enough and that means that I need to know that there are going to be times where I'm not going to have that conversation. And I think part of the reason for that is because a lot of the conversation is about listening, it's not about talking. So rather than like, let me share my thesis and dissertation on everything I've read and learned about privilege with you, it's much more productive if people come to conclusions and understandings themselves. And as lawyers or as trained lawyers, most of us should be quite good at asking questions that lead people to their thinking; no one's going to object to your leading question. So you can, you know help facilitate someone's thinking through asking questions. And I think you know for example, once you know a lot of the narrative around privilege or where people don't recognize privilege is there a feeling of you know, you did something yourself. You worked really hard by yourself. And I think asking questions about how is that really true, like did you really not have any support? So I could say, "I'm self-made. I'm the daughter of immigrants." Yada yada yada. And it's like, but did you really? Is that really true? No that's not true. Like I got C's in middle school, I got C's in high school. Why did that not prevent me from going to a good college? Oh, well my parents had the resources to be able to pay full tuition for me to attend a small liberal arts college when I did not get scholarships into high-ranking colleges, and that allowed me to continue to grow and get a good education and develop the discipline, get better grades. And so then when I was studying for the LSAT, again I had support and resources to take a LSAT class that allowed me to improve my score significantly and get admission to a great school. And like, you know and kind of asking people questions about, "Did you really do this by yourself. You know, because you didn't. No one did anything by themselves. In an industrialized economy, no one does anything by themselves, only the hunters and gatherers really did things by themselves, and even then they worked in communities to get things done. And so I think if instead of it being an attack on, "Well you're not recognizing your privilege and you don't understand what it's like for me," I think asking people questions and trying to understand the narrative that they have in their head about not just others, but themselves, helps you to kind of deconstruct. If you can really, radically empathize and understand someone's viewpoint then you can talk to them in a way they can understand. But once you have demonized or written someone off, you're not going to be able to get through to them because you're not going to understand how they're thinking about it. On podcast when we did the episode on white privilege and white guilt, I asked the person who I was speaking with how she talks to poor white people, how she helps them understand white privilege when in their lives they've not seen privilege, particularly if they live in a predominantly white community, they don't have a good point of reference to say, "Yeah my life is challenging this way, but people who are similarly financially situated but are, you know, lacking the racial privilege I have live lives this way." And she said you know, I try to get rid of the blame and the shame and kind-of explain that being born white is like being born with access to a country club. Like it's not that you did anything to deserve it, you just kind of have it. But by having it that means you have access to certain things that other people don't. And so trying to steer the conversation away from blame and shame and make it more about you know, this is the structure, this is the construction that we're all in. And so now what do we do, right? It's not your fault. But this is what it is. So now what we do? But I think it requires first this base understanding of what perspective is this person coming from and what's informing that perspective. So you know like, I remember having conversations with my mom about racial privilege and her not fully grasping it, coming from a country that had a caste system but not a racial dynamic. But she really understood sexism well. And drawing analogies to sexism helped her understand racism. So I think if you can find kind-of, a point of reference for people, that helps. And I think, but particularly just not blaming them, really trying to understand their viewpoint. But that's quite draining when someone is telling you that they think your viewpoint and your life's work is invalid and then you're like, "Great. Let me really try to deeply understand where you're coming from," is exhausting. That's why I started with saying that having and I'm ending saying that I think having a boundary on when you'll have those conversations is really important. Jeena: So I think that leads me to the next question, let's just say that the person recognizes that they have certain privileges. And I think you and I both talked about the fact that just you know, by virtue of being a lawyer we have certain privileges. I think that being Asian in many ways gives us certain privileges. Like then what, you know? It's like, then what do you do with that? So like, you admit you have certain privileges, like what's the next constructive step to take? Aditi: So I think there are two things. I think one is not allowing yourself to be used as like, so like you know there was this whole conversation online recently with the DOJ announcement around affirmative action that you know, Asian-Americans are not your model minority, that you're not going to hold me up as an example, you're not going to give me, I'm not going to climb this ladder of racial hierarchy, right? I'm not going to step on someone else so that I can get ahead. I'm not going to allow you to use me as an example to denigrate someone else. So I think just kind-of in conversation, especially when you kind of fall in the middle in one of those groups, to say that you're not going to use me to say that someone else should have been able to do what I did, right? Because I recognize my privilege. I had help, I had support. My parents, my dad's an MBA and my mom's a Ph.D. Like, it is not a fair comparison to compare me to someone whose parents didn't graduate high school and say that all Asians are, you know, you just can't make those generalizations. So I think first, not allowing yourself to be used as a pawn in someone else's game. And then second, I think leveraging your skills and abilities where you can to create more equity and justice. So as lawyers we have this unique opportunity, a large part of what I was doing on The Resistance Manual was trying to democratize information, was trying to say, "Hey, I can read through a legislative process and have some context and framework to understand what this means and how it works. Let me write it in basic language and share it so that others can also understand what this means." You know, I did videos and I posted them on Twitter when different health care bills came out, explaining to people, this is what it means for people getting health care through their employer. Get it this way, get it that way. So I think just sharing, trying to democratize information and knowledge. I mean, lawyers played a huge role in pushing back the Muslim ban just by showing up at airports and offering pro-bono help. Today, the announcement of DACA being rescinded was announced, and dreamers have what, a month to renew DACA. So I think lawyers can play a huge role in leveraging their privilege and their knowledge, both to educate the public that hey, you need to renew it, and also providing help to people. Even if it's like, you write an FAQ form you know and you post it somewhere, or you help explain the process and you kind-of share, "Hey these are the steps that you need to take if you want to do that," and you make that public. I realize that as lawyers we obviously have a concern about offering legal advice and the ways to do that, but I think those concerns shouldn't prevent us from using the knowledge that we're privileged to have, to share it with others and to help others kind of be active, make their lives better. It's just the process, a lot of it is not about offering specific legal advice, it's just about demystifying the process. People don't understand how rules and regulations work and agencies, people get confused about what their members of Congress do versus what happens in the States. And I think lawyers are uniquely positioned to help demystify. A lot of times the reason I think the public doesn't engage in activism is because the systems feel opaque, and as lawyers were uniquely privileged to make them less opaque. And that doesn't cost you anything and that's not risky in terms of providing legal advice. That's really just about like, "Hey I can explain how this process works in language that a normal human could understand." Jeena: Which is not an easy thing to do, let's just be clear about that. Aditi: It's not, but you can practice. Like it takes a lot of practice because we live in our special little world, but like if you have kids at home, if you can explain it to a 10-year-old, you're pretty good. That's pretty solid. I think that's actually a really good baseline. The basic reading level is at a fifth-grade reading level if you can find a 10-year-old and you can get them to understand it. You know. And also I think it's actually a good lawyering skill when you're talking to a jury when you're writing things, the simpler and clearer you can explain things the better. So I don't think it's, you know, I think that even opposing counsel and judges recognize when you're trying to you know, my legal writing professor used to say, "Don't try to sound smart. Be smart." Like your argument should stand on its own, you don't need to be pretentious with your vocabulary. You use words for precision, that's different, but the simpler and clearer you can write, the easier it is for someone to understand. If a judge has to read a paragraph three times, that's not good legal writing. The simpler and clearer you can write something and make your argument, the better. So I don't think it's, you know, I don't think it's like contrary to the mandate of lawyers, I think it just maybe feels a little uncomfortable. Jeena: I think that feels like a really great place to pause. For people that want to learn more about your work and your podcast, where is the best place to find it? So they can find my podcast at selfcaresundayspodcast.com. It's also on iTunes, Google Play, wherever podcasts are available. And to learn more about me and my work, you can check out my website which is my name, aditijuneja.me. And there's you know, articles I've written, projects I've worked on, speeches I've given, etc. Jeena: And you are very active on Twitter and people can find you on there @aditijuneja3, wonderful. Before I let you go, one final question. The name of this podcast is called The Resilient Lawyer. What does it mean to be a resilient lawyer to you? Aditi: A lawyer who allows themselves to feel what they're feeling, deal with it and keep going forward. Jeena: I love that. Aditi, thank you so much for joining me. It was such a delight chatting with you and I'm sure we'll be in touch. Aditi: Thank you so much for having me.   Closing Thanks for joining us on the Resilient Lawyer Podcast. If you've enjoyed the show, please tell a friend. It's really the best way to grow the show. To leave us a review on iTunes, search for the Resilient Lawyer and give us your honest feedback. It goes a long way to help with our visibility when you do that so we really appreciate it. Thank you and we look forward to seeing you next week.

Cool Story; Needs More Girls
Cool Story; Needs More Smarts

Cool Story; Needs More Girls

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2017 65:57


Lizz and Maggi talk about smart girls who inspire them. This list goes on for a while. Maggi gets to gush about A Series of Unfortunate Events, The Mindy Project, and one of her favorites, RIVER SONG. Lizz teaches Maggi about Shonda Rimes' wonderful shows, Amy Poehler's Smart Girls, and another Elizabeth Moss character. This is not not turning into an Elizabeth Moss fancast. Together they are able to name the nine different types of intelligences and remember to pay homage to a sports movie they forgot a few weeks ago. Please forgive us, Bend it Like Beckham.Also, Lizz and Maggi were both nasty sick while recording this. Please excuse sounds such as sniffling and brain farts. Please check us out on twitter @coolstorycast or find us on instagram: Cool Story Needs More Girls

Popgram Podcast
Popgram Podcast – Episode 19

Popgram Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2017 63:01


Episode 19 – In this week’s podcast, we discuss the VMAs, Taylor Swift’s new album campaign and track, Nintendo’s SNES marketing, Shonda Rimes’ move to Netflix, and the highest paid actors in TV and film!

KarKeegs
Episode 14: Grey's Anatomy

KarKeegs

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2017 26:14


Join us as we discuss the ABC show, Grey's Anatomy, with our guest, Catherine Elder! Listen in as Lizzie talks about the real hero of the show, Catherine gives her plug for Shonda Rimes' book and Karen tries her hand at hosting the podcast for the first time! We'd love to know your thoughts! Find us on Twitter @karkeegspodcast or email us at karkeegspodcast@gmail.com.

Codex Prime
EPISODE 85 - Fan Theories?!

Codex Prime

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2017 104:26


WATCH THIS EPISODE AT: https://youtu.be/1bfXTIEIEH0 This week, Victor and Carl discuss the most ridiculous and intriguing fan theories! Victor reviews the films Girls Trip and Justice League Dark, Carl talks about Google's Hip-Hop logo this past week as well as the Greo app, and other items of interest are on tap such as Jay-Z's "Moonlight" video, the Game of Thrones "Eastwatch" episode, Shonda Rimes going to Netflix, Robert Kirkman moving to Amazon, Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli returning, and lots more on the docket. It's time once again to GET IT! Recorded August 15, 2017 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email: CodexPrimePodcast@gmail.com CATCH CODEX PRIME AT: Facebook: www.facebook.com/codexprime Twitter: twitter.com/codexprimecast Instagram: instagram.com/codexprimepodcast/ iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/codex…id998035389?mt=2 YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCbDMNJNgnM6y3WB3fA1a1HA SoundCloud: @codex-prime Victor Omoayo - twitter.com/VictorOmoayo - www.youtube.com/user/vomoayo Carl Byrd - Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat: @mrbyrd1027 - bookmrbyrd1027@gmail.com

3 Thick Girls
Episode 8: Herpes, and Gropers, and Jealousy, OH MY!

3 Thick Girls

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2017 90:56


In this episode Angelica brings Usher's alleged herpes, and the body shaming of Quantasia Sharpton to the table! Liana talks Taylor Swift's album aligning with her law suit, while Silvana get's a question about jealousy destroying friendships! And Ms. Shonda Rimes is this week's Werking Girl!

Last Men On Earth
LMOE #91 - Serena Williams cannot be serious!

Last Men On Earth

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2017 84:29


Serena Williams' crazed fans think John McEnroe crossed a line, Shonda Rimes alleges obese-o-phobia, "Fearless Girl" wins an award for its courageous political correctness, Matt apologizes for suggesting that Amber Heard was faking it, Jessica Biel's rich mom "struggles", and apparently the White House used to hold a Ramadan dinner before Trump.     See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Book Riot - The Podcast
#129: Reverse Goldilocks

Book Riot - The Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2015 62:10


This week, Jeff and Rebecca talk about the new Harry Potter play, Shonda Rimes doing a Romeo and Juliet sequel series, the Kirkus book awards, new books, and much more. This episode is sponsored by Casper, Audible, and Penguin Random Audio.

S.S. Librarianship
Episode Twenty-Five - "I guess you could say they need a bigger boat?"

S.S. Librarianship

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2014 68:05


Mind Grapes: Sam has found time to do some reading and shares her latest literary adventure. Alli is on a Shonda Rimes binge and has picked up Scandal. Melanie tells about a yearly podcast she likes and tells us all about her adventure on the JoCo Cruise Crazy! Class Z(ed): Last week was Canada's Freedom to Read Week (like a Canadian Banned Books Week) and Melanie did some library programming and media, so she knows all about it! Plus, a few book challenges that we dug out of the records that provide some interesting insight to properly considering a book and not just rejecting challenges out of hand.