Podcasts about Rehabilitation counseling

Dr. Macie Smith joins host Ron Aaron and co-host Carol Zernial to talk about what families should know about caregiving, the effects of caregiving, and resources for caregivers on this edition of Caregiver SOS. Special guest-cohost Tina Smith fills in for Carol Zernial! About Dr. Smith Dr. Macie P. Smith is a proud HBCU Alum of South Carolina State University receiving both her Bachelor’s in Social Work and Master’s in Rehabilitation Counseling; she earned her Doctorate in Higher Education Leadership from Nova Southeastern University in Ft. Lauderdale, Fl. She is nationally known for her work on dementia-competent practices and family caregiving matters. Her real-world unapologetic approach to practical caregiving has been published in national and international professional journals. She is a Licensed Gerontology Social Worker and an award-winning Alzheimer's and dementia educator with over 22 years of experience coordinating care for aging and vulnerable populations. She is an advisory board member with Leeza’s Care Connection, founded by Emmy Award-Winning TV/radio personality & philanthropist Leeza Gibbons. Dr. Smith also is a bestselling author. Her book “A Dementia Caregiver Called to Action” will be available for purchase today. Hosts Ron Aaron and Carol Zernial, and their guests talk about Caregiving and how to best cope with the stresses associated with it. Learn about "Caregiver SOS" and the "Teleconnection Hotline" programs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Discussion:Join Dr. Stephanie and Meredith Sinclair of Life Behavior Consulting to discuss how communication skills are key to relational skills and meaningful connections. Today, we discuss how to assess social interest, discern if someone is genuine or manipulative, cyber safety skills, and find sources of friendships. About the Guest:Speaker Biography: Meredith Sinclair is the Executive Director/Founder of LIFE BehaviorConsulting, LLC. Meredith holds a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from Georgia StateUniversity and a Bachelor's Degree in Psychology from Pennsylvania State University. She is acertified Rehabilitation Counselor and a Certified PEERS for Young Adults Provider, School-Based Provider, and Telehealth provider. Meredith loves working with people with Neurodiverse brain styles to help them learn the skills to build their confidence and independence in working on their goals in life, whatever those may be. Meredith's specialty is helping her clients uncover and leverage their strengths and take action steps to apply the skills they are learning in the real world. She is an advocate for Neurodiversity in the workplace and believes that anyone who has the desire to work CAN work and have a fulfilling career with the right supports.Find out more at:https://lifebehaviorconsulting.com/ 

In this podcast episode, Karen Fabian, a seasoned yoga teacher with over 22 years of experience, discusses imposter syndrome and its impact on yoga instructors. She describes imposter syndrome as a feeling of inadequacy or self-doubt, where teachers feel they are "faking it" or not qualified enough, despite their training and expertise. This often stems from the pressure of public speaking, the deep responsibility of guiding students through a practice rooted in ancient traditions, and personal limiting beliefs tied to past experiences. Karen emphasizes the importance of detachment from external validation to build confidence, advocating for a consistent teaching approach, such as using a signature sequence, to reduce anxiety and foster authenticity. She shares practical strategies, like grounding exercises and pre-class breathing, to manage nerves and encourages teachers to reflect on their teaching experiences to find balance and authenticity. --Yoga teacher, Podcast Host, Author and Founder of Bare Bones Yoga, Karen Fabian has a background in rehabilitative medicine and healthcare. Her passion for anatomy and human movement is behind all she does, including her work with yoga teachers inside her program, The Yoga Anatomy Blueprint Learning Program. Along with her qualifications as a yoga teacher, she also earned her Certified Personal Trainer certification in 2017 and Corrective Exercise certification in 2019 with the National Association of Sports Medicine to deepen her knowledge of human movement.Her mission is to empower and educate yoga teachers so that they can share exceptional and accessible classes in their communities, online and in a variety of settings. She firmly believes in the ripple effect of yoga's benefits moving from teacher to student to family and community. Her podcast, “Conversations for Yoga Teachers” has over 300 episodes and over 200K downloads and shares lessons in anatomy, cueing and sequencing and shares stories from other yoga teachers and experts in related fields.She's written several books including “Stretched: Build Your Yoga Business, Grow Your Teaching Techniques,” and “Structure and Spirit.”Karen has her B.S. in Rehabilitation Counseling from Boston University and her Master's in Health Care Administration from Simmons College. She is an Experienced Registered Yoga Teacher, a Yoga Alliance Continuing Education Provider and was one of the first Certified Baptiste Yoga Teachers. She has been teaching since 2002 and lives in Boston.Linkshttps://barebonesyoga.com/https://www.tiktok.com/@barebonesyogahttps://www.instagram.com/barebonesyoga/reels/https://www.youtube.com/@KarenFabianKaren's Freebieshttps://barebonesyoga.lpages.co/the-5-day-confidence-challenge/https://barebonesyoga.lpages.co/the-bare-bones-yoga-guide-to-incredible-yoga-teaching/https://barebonesyoga.lpages.co/free-guide-steps-to-confident-teaching/https://barebonesyoga.lpages.co/how-to-build-a-yoga-sequence-lead-page/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Part 1 of this discussion examines psychology, philosophy, religion, spiritually, science, and medicine, a panel of five (5) people opens with the question, 'where am I?' and 'what is going on [in the world]?' and refers to James Hillman, ideas and action as an artificial distinction, are they the same thing? How are they interlinked? The poet Major Ragain is quoted, 'contemplation alters the course of rivers.' From the Bhagavad Gita: Freedom from action is not accomplished by abstaining from action, so how is it accomplished? Relinquishing the fruit of action Ghandi's, 'through service, I find myself.' The Panel begins to examine the Taoist concept of non-action, Wu Wei. How do we cultivate Wu Wei? The Panel explores Univerisal Truths. Natural action arises, we have a deep intrinsic calling, how do we find and express it? What is our reason for being here? To receive the Divine Will is a part of choiceless action. Biographies of Panel: Dr. Bob Insull is an New York State Licensed Psychologist with more than 60 years experience teaching, training, and treating in the arena of human behavior. In his clinical practice, he has worked across the developmental stages (children to golden-agers), across the diagnostic spectrum (chemical dependency, severe mental illness, relationship issues, depression, anxiety, and PTSD), and treatment settings (clinics, inpatient psychiatric centers, and private practice). During the closing years of his practice, he became interested in the area of psychological trauma and worked with survivors in individual and group settings. He has been retired from active practice for about 15 years and spends his time engaged in self-discovery on the Sufi Path and social-change activities with his church. Brian Mistler is a Missouri-hillbilly curious about Reality. He has lived as a computer scientist, psychologist, running and growing businesses, and helping entrepreneurs, hospitals, and healthcare providers. Mid-life Brian had a partially debilitating nerve injury and soon after met a true Vedanta teacher who spent 30+ years in India and trained under Swami Chimayananda, Sawmi Dayananda, and others. This refocused his study of the classic non-dual wisdom as presented in the Bhagavad Gita and Upanishads. Learn more at http://www.stillcenter.media. Hari Om Tat Sat. Peace, peace, peace. Richard Grego is Professor of philosophy and cultural history at FSCJ. His research interests focus on cross cultural themes in religion and science - including philosophy of mind, comparative world religions/world civilizations, and the metaphysical - theological implications of theoretical physics and cosmology. His publications have included studies in the history - philosophy of science and conceptions of nature in the history of western philosophy, as well as cross-cultural perspectives on mind/ consciousness in western philosophy - psychology and the neo-Vedanta Hindu tradition. Prior to his academic career, he was a criminal investigator - polygraph examiner for the Florida Office of the Public Defender and in the private sector Instructor at the Criminal Justice Institute and International Academy of Polygraph Science in Florida, and national Academic Director of the Criminal Defense Investigation Training Council. Joel David Lesses is President and Executive Director of Education Training Center, Inc. and his work experience is in education, psychology, and counseling for people marginalized by trauma, addiction, and psychological distress. He is deeply vested in addressing the effects of mental health distress and its marginalization including, incarceration, homelessness, and institutionalization. Joel is dedicated to reframing mental health distress as a potential spiritual marker and existential opportunity. He holds dual Master of Science degrees from University at Buffalo in Rehabilitation Counseling and Biomedical Sciences with a concentration in Epidemiology. Henry Cretella, M.D. studied and practiced Tibetan Buddhism for several years along with training in martial arts. He then immersed himself in the more universal Sufism of Inayat Khan, an Indian mystic, for close to twenty years. He functioned as a senior teacher in the Inayati Order and the Sufi Healing Order before pursuing his independent practice and study of mysticism. He now integrates what he has learned and experienced over these many years. He graduated from Vanderbilt Medical School and completed his psychiatric training at Strong Memorial Hospital of the University of Rochester in Rochester, NY. His professional career spanned over 40 years as a general and child and adolescent psychiatrist and included teaching, administration, clinical practice and consultation in the greater Rochester and western NY areas. This, along with his spiritual and especially mystical interests lead him to certification as a mind body practitioner through the Center for Mind Body Medicine and Dr. James Gordon. He retired several years ago from active psychiatric practice, but continues to incorporate what he has learned into his spiritual practices and offerings.

The HEART Model: An Integrated Faith-Based & Psychological Approach to Heal from Trauma Benjamin B Keyes, PhD, EdD, NCC, CCMHC, LPC, MCT Professor/Director of Training and Internship for Masters of Mental Health Counseling Program Divine Mercy University Dr. Benjamin Keyes' specialties include dissociative disorders, domestic violence, child abuse, addictions, mood and anxiety disorders, human trafficking, and work with refugees. Dr. Keyes received his Doctorate in Rehabilitation Counseling in 1985 from International College and his most recent in Counseling Psychology from the University of Sarasota in 2003. He also has Doctoral Degrees in Theology, Divinity and Ministry. Over the years Dr. Keyes has worked extensively with hospitalization programs, and private practice, and has established himself as one of the leading program innovators for partial hospitalization programs. Dr. Keyes has been in Private Practice for over forty years and has been a researcher in Trauma and Dissociation for the last 26 years. Dr. Keyes and his colleagues have received the Richard A. Kluft Research Award for work and research in the People's Republic of China from the Journal of Trauma and Dissociation and the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. His work dispelled the Cultural Model of Dissociation and has resulted in Dissociative Disorders being treated throughout mental health facilities in China. Dr. Keyes has also received The Hope Award from Restoration Ministries for his work in establishing, the HEART Model, a faith-based trauma model for working with Trafficked Survivors and complex trauma. Over the last six years, Dr. Keyes has been a Professor and Director for the Center for Trauma and Resiliency Studies at Divine Mercy University in Sterling, Virginia. As head of the Center for Trauma and Resiliency Studies, Dr. Keyes supervised the development and training of graduate students in First Response and Chronic Trauma. Dr. Keyes also serves the University as a Clinical Mental Health Program Professor. The Center's Trauma Team will deploy to traumatic events worldwide as needed, train professionals and paraprofessionals, and research the HEART Model and its ethics with trafficking survivors. The book The HEART Model is a 20-year project coming to fruition, following a 7-year study showing its efficacy. Dr. Keyes is also the Executive Director of The Green Cross Academy for Traumatology. He is happily married to Kim, has two adult children Shawn and Jasmin, and an adopted 10-year-old Garite, three beautiful granddaughters Violet, Amber, and Arella, and a Grandson, Xander.  3 Top Tips  Folks will understand that DID formerly MPD is something that people can heal from but takes work and time. Listeners will learn of a way to Hear God's Voice and be able to find a Real Living God without the need of Theology, Polity, or Denominationalism. Listeners will be able to apply what is said of healing to themselves Social Media Linked-In: Benjamin B Keyes Facebook-Benjamin B Keyes email-bkeyes@divinemercy.edu CTRS URL: WWW.divinemercy.edu/academics/ctrs

Dr. Stephanie and Meredith discuss social skills groups for adolescents and young adults 14 and older.Meredith Sinclair is the Executive Director/Founder of LIFE Behavior Consulting, LLC. Meredith holds a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from Georgia State University and a Bachelor's Degree in Psychology from Pennsylvania State University. She is a certified Rehabilitation Counselor and a Certified PEERS for Young Adults Provider, school-based Provider, and Telehealth provider. Meredith loves working with people with Neurodiverse brain styles to help them learn the skills to build their confidence and independence in working on their goals in life, whatever those may be. Meredith's specialty is helping her clients uncover and leverage their strengths and take action steps to apply the skills they learn in the real world. She is an advocate for Neurodiversity in the workplace and believes that anyone who has the desire to work CAN work and have a fulfilling career with the proper support.Find her at:https://lifebehaviorconsulting.com/

The RISE-UP project is a transformative initiative to revolutionize rehabilitation services for underserved populations, focusing on racial and ethnic minorities. Dr. Mari Guillermo and Dr. Mark Tucker, Project Directors at San Diego State University's Interwork Institute, highlight how this project seeks to drive systemic change through state agency partnerships and tools like QA Advisor Plus. RISE-UP strives to reshape vocational rehabilitation and improve employment outcomes nationwide by fostering equity, inclusion, and access.   Listen Here   Full Transcript:   {Music} Mark: QA Advisor Plus, a tool that agencies can use to check their RSA 911 data for errors and to help facilitate or expedite analysis of their own data.   Mari: How do we close this gap? Where are people not being served, what populations specifically are not being served? And the emphasis is on systems change because we can't improve these outcomes without really looking at what needs to change within that system.   Mark: So we hope that when you see information about the survey coming out, that you take a few minutes to fill it out and can provide us with information both about what they see as needs related to serving underserved populations. But also, we're asking folks to identify any promising practices that they're aware of with respect to providing effective services to underserved populations.   Intro Voice: Manager Minute brought to you by the VRTAC for Quality Management, Conversations powered by VR, one manager at a time, one minute at a time. Here is your host Carol Pankow.   Carol: Well, welcome to the manager minute, Dr. Mari Guillermo and Dr. Mark Tucker, are co-project directors with San Diego State University Interwork Institute. And they are joining me in the studio today. So how are things going in San Diego, Mari?   Mari: Uh, well, it's warming up. It's going to be in the 90s by tomorrow, but it's also the start of the semester at San Diego State University. We're in our second week, so things are still trying to settle down, but it's been quite a good busy two weeks for sure.   Carol: Oh, good for you. Well, I was in San Diego back in June and I'm going, okay, why isn't it warm here now? It was warmer in Minnesota than it was in San Diego. It was so crazy with that kind of, I don't know, marine layer or whatever hangs out. Yeah. How about you, Mark? How are things going for you?   Mark: Going well, yeah, That marine layer in June we that's like a typical thing June Gloom we call it. And then we pay the price in September. September is usually warm for us, but we'll get back to our normal San Diego weather in October.   Carol: Nice. I do love your fair city though. It is really awesome. Well, I thought, and I'm so glad I could get you two because I've been trying to snag you. I think I've been talking to you since last December, but now is finally the sweet spot. I thought it was super timely that we talk about the project given you're at the end of year one. October is also National Disability Employment Awareness Month, and I really think the project that you guys are embarking on could have a significant impact on the employment arena for underserved populations. As a little side note, we're super happy as part of the George Washington University team to be a partner on this project. So I want to give our listeners just a little bit of background. Over a year ago, RSA competed a discretionary grant, and the grant was specifically related to section 21 of the Rehab Act, as amended by WIOA, which requires RSA to reserve 1% of the funds appropriated each year for programs under titles three, title six, and seven to provide grant, contract or cooperative agreement awards to minority entities and Indian tribes to carry out activities under the Rehab Act. Secondly, minority entities and Indian tribes to conduct research training to or a related activity to improve services provided under the act, especially services provided to individuals from minority backgrounds. Or thirdly, state or public or private non-profit agencies or organizations to provide outreach and technical assistance to minority entities and American Indian tribes to promote their participation in activities under the Rehab Act. I learned a whole bunch. I know for our listeners, you're getting a whole history lesson, but I thought this was cool. And so under this priority, the department provides funding for a cooperative agreement for a minority entity or an Indian tribe to provide training and TA to a minimum range of 5 to 15 state VR agencies over a five year period of performance, so they are equipped to serve as role models for diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility in the workforce system by implementing policies, Practices and service delivery approaches designed to contribute to increasing competitive, integrated employment outcomes for individuals with disabilities from underserved populations. And the other cool part is that you also need to contribute via our research and really good practices that promote access, and this will be really of great benefit across the whole country. So I'm super excited. Let's dig in. So, Mari, typically our listeners like to know a little bit about our guests, your backgrounds. So can you tell a little bit about yourself and your background?   Mari: Yeah, I'm originally from Hawaii, born and raised in Honolulu, Hawaii. I moved to San Diego in the late 80s to as a graduate student in the rehabilitation program at San Diego State University. So since moving to San Diego, I haven't moved very far from San Diego State University and our rehab counseling program. I'm currently faculty in our graduate program, but I've been with the Interwork Institute since its beginning, when it was started by doctors Fred McFarlane and Doctor Ian Champion, and just worked with some incredible number of leaders in our rehabilitation field. And upon graduating from the master's program, I started working with Doctor Bobby Atkins. And for those of you who few of you who are not familiar with Doctor Atkins, she is a leader. When we look at all diversity initiatives and in fact, when we look at section 21, that was started with her groundbreaking research looking at the involvement and participation of African Americans in vocational rehabilitation. But I worked with Doctor Atkins upon graduating from the program in the capacity building projects funded by this same pool of money. And Doctor Atkins was the national director for the Rehabilitation Cultural Diversity Initiative, which then morphed over into the Rehabilitation Capacity Building Project. So I worked with her from the 90s. All the way up to like 2015 I think is when the project ended. So a lot of the work that we are doing in Rise Up really builds on the foundational work that we did with Doctor Atkins back in the 1990s. So it's an incredible honor.   Carol: I think that is very cool. You've come full circle. Oh my gosh, I love that. I had no idea. And for our listeners too, I just want to say a word about Doctor Fred McFarlane. Fred had passed away this summer. Fred has been a good friend to many, and many of our listeners have benefited from Fred's work with the NRLI and the Leadership Institute. Fred was the founding person developing that and really did such an amazing job touching so many VR professionals over his career. And his legacy definitely lives on. So I just I needed to say that because Fred is definitely missed. So, Marc, how about you? Why don't you tell us a little bit about your background.   Mark: Sure, I've got a Master of Science in rehabilitation counseling, and I'm a certified rehabilitation counselor. And in fact, you know, when I was applying to the graduate program in rehabilitation counseling, Fred interviewed me. Uh, that was a few years back. But that...   Carol: Yeah, 1 or 2.   Mark: Yeah, but he was there right at the start for me. And then kind of in the profession, I got my start in community based non-profit agencies and then from there joined the Rehabilitation Continuing Education program for region nine at Interwork and SDSU in the early 2000. And when I was there, was involved in all kinds of different technical assistance, training and research projects, while also kind of teaching in an adjunct capacity in the Rehabilitation counseling graduate program at SDSU. And then eventually the Rehabilitation Continuing Education programs transitioned into the Technical Assistance and Continuing Education centers. So I continued doing that same type of work with what were called the TACE centers, and then in 2014, joined the Rehabilitation Counseling Program faculty at SDSU full time. So that's sort of where I spend a lot of my time. But I still continue working with, you know, Interwork. The two are just so intricately joined. It's really difficult to be part of one without being part of the other. So I continue doing work at Interwork. One of the recent projects that Mari and I were both involved in a few years back was the California version of the Promise Projects. It was a 5 or 6 years of work with transition age youth who were recipients of Supplemental Security Income. Presently, I'm the coordinator of the Rehabilitation Counseling program at SDSU, and do that while maintaining connections to a variety of projects at Interwork.   Carol: Yeah, you're always wearing about 40 hats. I always think of you, Mark, as being the data guy though, too, because you love the data. I mean, everybody likes data, sort of but you love the data. I mean, you've done some really amazing things with our national data.   Mark: Thank you. I enjoy that. I appreciate being able to bring that to a lot of the projects that I'm involved in. Yeah, you're right. I think I find it fun maybe at times where other people are like, oh, we'll leave that to somebody else.   Carol: Yeah, absolutely. Oh my gosh. So why don't you guys tell us a little bit about your project? I know it's called Rise Up. Maybe you can tell our group like what's that stand for? Everybody's got their fun acronyms and what you're trying to accomplish.   Mari: The name really captures the overall vision for this project, and we have to give a shout out to Doctor Chaz Compton because after several failed acronyms, as we were writing the proposal, it was Chaz who came up with the name. And RISEUP stands for Rehabilitation Improvements in Services and Employment for Underserved Populations. And so that really captures what we're aiming to do, improving the services and in the process of improving services, improving the outcomes for underserved populations, in competitive integrated employment, in careers, in academic achievements and accomplishments now underserved populations. There's many ways we can look at that, but RSA has defined it for us and it concentrates on race and ethnicity. So it encompasses individuals who are black, Latino, indigenous, Native American persons, Asian Americans, Pacific Islanders, and other persons of color. And so that is the specific focus for this grant and the population that we hope to impact ultimately with the work that we do with the state agencies. An important component of the project is the partnerships that we aim to build with ten state agencies. And that partnership is really important because while we think about this work is okay, we'll do training and technical assistance and all these different topics and how it intersects with these different populations based on evidence based practices and promising practices. But we can only do so much with training and technical assistance. We really have to look at, okay, how does this then translate into the work that goes on in the agency and not just in the agency? How does that look at the different levels within the agency? How a director would translate the training will look different than how a counselor or a technician would translate. We hope that it complements each other, but everyone has a different role in this process. And that's the other part of the project, is that we want to really look at the whole agency and all the different levels, and being able to provide that support to them where they need it. And really looking at how do we close this gap? Where are people not being served, what populations specifically are not being served within a state or a section of the state? And the emphasis is on systems change, because we can't improve these outcomes without really looking at what needs to change within that system. And there's different components that we're going to be incorporating into the project in our partnerships with the state agencies to look at what are the strengths and weaknesses within your agencies and what are the opportunities and gaps. And while there are big challenges that we all are aware of, there's also some great things going on and we want to highlight that, and we believe we'll be able to find that also within each of the state agencies.   Carol: I like a couple of things about what you just said. Well, I like it all, but a couple things stick out to me because holistically, we've seen it as we do TA and as people put in new initiatives in place. If you really get the whole agency going in the same direction, it is the rise or fall of that project for sure, because maybe the director is all in, but the mid-level managers and the counselors are like, I don't even understand what's going on. You're asking us to do this other thing? I don't get it. It seems weird. It's extra. I don't want to. I'm not going to. And then it doesn't happen. And so you really have to get everybody in sync. So I think you're smart to look at the whole organization and how everybody interprets the information and the training and how it actually gets implemented, because it isn't the director implementing it. It's the boots on the ground folks, it's your counselor. You need your line folks engaged and involved and giving you feedback and understanding what's happening. So that I think that is brilliant. Secondly, the data I think it's been interesting and I think Mark, it's some of the work that you've done over the last couple of years that I've known you as well, that as people start to get better about looking at their data, I think folks were looking really high level, not getting into the real intricacies and seeing the maybe the disparities that are happening in employment as you start looking at different races and ethnicities and who's getting what kind of work and what those outcomes are. And then we've seen states be completely shocked, like we didn't know we have a huge problem in this area. So I think getting at the data is super important. So I know, Mark, you and I had spoken to and you talked about this special wrinkle, and we're not using wrinkle in a bad way. It was in a good way. But you have a contractor called Encorpe and they're bringing something special to the project. Tell us a little bit about that.   Mark: Sure, and this relates a bit more to the data aspects of the project that we were just talking about. So Encorpe is a partner on the project. It's an organization that's headed by a couple of individuals with considerable experience with the public VR program, and they offer a tool that's known as QA Advisor Plus. So this is a tool that agencies can use to check their RSA 911 data for errors and to kind of help facilitate or expedite analysis of their own data. So users of the tool can run custom queries on their data. They can do things like track changes from quarter to quarter in things like population served on a variety of measures that might include things like applications or eligibility plan services, competitive integrated employment outcomes. Those are the kinds of things that are of interest, particularly to us as part of the Rise Up project and built into this project is that Rise Up will pay for one year of QA advisor Plus for participating agencies if they elect to use it. So agencies aren't required to use QA Advisor Plus if they don't want to. We have other strategies for helping and assisting with data analysis if they elect not to use it, but that's there as an offer. Rise Up will cover one year of the cost of that service. And I think one of the things that we're trying to get at is that through the project is to kind of help facilitate kind of long term attention and ongoing attention to things like population served and differences in services and outcomes, and to use that for more data informed planning, in our case, particularly around underserved populations. But agencies can certainly pretty easily extend that out to other groups of interest or other aspects of the rehabilitation process. That may not be maybe the central focus of what Rise Up is doing. And one of the things I sort of want to underscore here is that the project is intentionally designed to make considerable use of data that the state agencies are already gathering and reporting to RSA anyway. So if agencies are interested maybe in participating in Rise Up, but they're like, oh, I don't want there to be like an additional heavy burden on my data folks or my direct service folks. Our intention is that things will be fairly light with respect to those kinds of demands, because we'll take advantage of existing data that's already being gathered, and then we'll either use QA Advisor Plus or some of our own staff to assist with the analyses.   Carol: That's the beauty of this project really, I love that because it isn't like you're going, okay, state, we're knocking on your door to like, come and do this thing. And then you need to add like ten positions to pay attention to this. And I think it's great because I got a chance to look at that QA Advisor Plus. I saw the Encorpe guys at, CSAVR and they were like, hey, do you want to see a little demo of this? I was like, oh my gosh, I know as being a small blind agency director, we had one data person who's doing a million things, and so we were very surfacey. We got a little bit of stuff, but it was really hard. You have one person there doing a million things, and so that tool, I liked how it kind of rose up little things. It had that cool feature and it would just flag something for you to go like, hey, what's going on in this particular area? That would have been so lovely because I know a lot of our programs are small, so you might just have a half a position or one position that's working in this area. They don't have a whole team that's got all this really developed deep skill set in there. I just think having that added resource is amazing and could really take that level of sort of your data analytics to a whole different place than what you've been able to do so far and not, you know, not disparaging anybody's current skill level at it. It's just that people don't have time because there's so many demands. So when you can add like a feature to help with analyzing that data, it really is a great gift. So who are your agencies that are currently participating in the project?   Mari: So we've had initial conversations with a number of agencies, and certainly there were a number of agencies who had written letters of commitment when we wrote the grant, and that was really important. I don't want to mention the states yet until we have agreements in place out of respect for the agencies, our goal is to have by the end of year two, our goal is to have six agreements in place and by the end of year three, another four. So that will be a total of ten. But we've already started to have that conversation and people are at different starting points, right? And trying to map out how will this make sense and be of value to your agency and mapping that out in an individualized agreement with each of the states? So maybe we'll be invited for a second visit a year down the road, and I can at least give you a few more names more specific than what I'm giving you now, Carol.   Carol: No,  that's totally fine. Absolutely. I wasn't sure if, you know, like, are you needing some people? Because sometimes our listeners are like, hey, I want to be part of that project. I want to be in.   Mari: No, absolutely. And we're more than happy to talk to agencies throughout this whole process, because really the intent is we targeted ten agencies because we want to make sure that with the resources that we have available to us, that we use that in a way to really make that impact, to really try to get to that systems change because again, change doesn't happen overnight and it doesn't happen on a zero budget, right? But the hope is the lessons that are learned from the ten agencies in this work will be relevant to the rest of the country.   Carol: That's what I've loved about all of these different discretionary grants that RSA has put out, because I've been talking to people for the last year, and there is such cool things being done and demonstrated that now they're sharing out, you know, with other people and just that wonderful plethora of ideas. It makes it super fun. And everybody gets really excited planting the seeds of a different way of looking at things and doing things. So you are at the end of year one, and I love it when I talk to all our grantees that have gotten these grants, like, what have been your challenges this year?   Mark: I would say some of the challenges that we've encountered are things that it's not like they're not doable. It's just that they're the time and process demands are, you know, things have sort of taken longer, I guess I've started to come to kind of expect it. But still, when you're anxious to kind of get going and get rolling, these things sort of surface as challenges or frustrations. And so some of them are, I think, very predictable things like fleshing out the project staff, developing and executing subcontracts. I think Mari, she's nodding her head often. It's a little bit more complicated or involved than you think it might be. We've been working on things like establishing the technical infrastructure for the project, information management, information sharing systems, and we have a website that's in development that will ultimately use to share information coming out of this project, with many more than just the ten state agencies that we work intensively with. So there will be kind of dissemination of project learning far beyond those ten. We've been comprehensively surveying the literature related to underserved populations in VR, and it's not really just a challenge. It's just kind of a time consuming thing that we're kind of working our way through. We are going to be implementing a national survey of state VR staff around both challenges and opportunities related to serving underserved populations and the instrument development process is always a little time consuming, and you get a lot of feedback and you make revisions and there's several feedback and revision stages. So that's something that will be surfacing in the near future. That's just it's taken time, but we'll get there. Or going through things like the human subjects institutional review process, just to make sure that everybody's, you know, treated well and treated ethically. So those are all, you know, just things that have moved along or are moving along and we're squaring them away. But for those of us who are like, would like to just get going, all of that process stuff at the beginning is a little bit of a challenge. One thing that I think the team is wrestling with a little bit, and this is something that I think were a challenge that we will contend with going forward, and I've got confidence that we'll be able to address it, but it's just going to require some thought is that, you know, as Mari indicated earlier, the underserved populations of interest are defined by race and ethnicity. And we know already from looking at our data over a long period of time that our clients, like everybody else, often are multiracial, and they check a whole bunch of boxes So we're not going to necessarily be able to look at clients who are folks don't fall neatly into very convenient categories, right. So I think we're going to have to be very sensitive to that dynamic in the process and probably develop multiple ways of looking at race and ethnicity, so that we don't kind of miss any really important lessons that are coming out of this project.   Carol: Absolutely. And regarding that national survey, is there something our listeners can do to be of help in that or something they should be looking out for?   Mark: We're still in the process of piloting it like we want to get it right before it goes out, but we will be working with one of our project partners, which is CSAVR, to disseminate this national survey. It'll be an electronic survey, and it's really designed to go to VR staff at all levels. Like we talked about earlier, involvement of folks, feedback from folks at all levels in VR system really important. So VR staff at all levels, folks like SRC members will be disseminating it through CSAVR. And we would encourage everybody to, you know, I know we survey ourselves all the time in society here in the US. But this one is important. And to me and I think to the overall intent of the project. And so we hope that when you see information about the survey coming out, that you take a few minutes to fill it out and complete it. It will be anonymous. It won't be linked back to you. So we hope people will respond candidly and provide us with information both about what they see as needs related to serving underserved populations. But also, we're asking folks to identify any promising practices that they're aware of with respect to providing effective services to underserved populations. I think both of those types of information can be really helpful to us in terms of planning out the future of this project, designing effective training, effective technical assistance efforts. So we see it as one way of kind of triangulating that information. We will look to triangulate it with other forms of information, but really critical to kind of building some of the key infrastructure to the project.   Carol: Good.   Mark: Yeah.   Carol: And we definitely can be a help to in passing out the word when the survey comes out. I know Chaz, he'll be like, Carol, can you get that out in our email groups too? We have lots of different ways. We communicate out. We have different COPs. We've got lots of mailing lists and such, so we can help kind of promote the word to get at the different groups of folks. So you get kind of a wide range of participation. So I know, Mark, you've alluded to a few things that really you've learned so far this year. One, because always year one's a learning year because people don't fall neatly in boxes. Are there any other kind of learnings you've had from year one so far, or Mari, too. either of you?   Mark: Yeah, I'm going to defer to Mari on this one.   Mari: We've learned a lot. And when you say, what have you learned so far? It's almost what has been confirmed. The whole reason why this funding opportunity is available because there's a gap there, right? And so what the conversations that we've had with agencies is just confirmed that there's a lot of work that we need to do and that we need to do better. But every agency is at a different starting point. Who they consider underserved will vary from state to state, or even from city to city within the same state. Right And where those gaps and inequities occur will also vary. For some states, it's just getting the outreach to communities to that door exists in their area, to certain populations dropping out before they even reach the point of developing an EIP, and other agencies are seeing where the EIP is developed. Things start to roll out and then for different reasons that we want to dig into, we lose people, you know, in certain populations compared to the overall populations being served. And so one of the things we are learning is that we really need to direct the training and technical assistance to where each agency wants to start, but also helping them and working together using that data that Marc talked about to confirm or not confirm whether these actual inequities at different points in the process are occurring. And then of course, the environment and the climate that agencies operate under impacts what they're tackling, something that we've heard repeatedly. And I'm sure, Carol, you've heard often, is the staffing challenges that our state agencies are experiencing upwards to 40% of unfilled positions, and that will certainly impact the work and the progress and the impact when we start to work with the agencies. Some agencies are further along in the process where they've really looked at the data from their comprehensive statewide needs assessment and saw a hole there and actually started to develop a goal to address that. And so they've already have that beginning understanding and now are at the stage of, okay, what do we do with this information? What kind of training and technical assistance can we provide our staff, and how can you help with this. And getting us to move the needle, at least move the needle forward, right? And I know we're going to get a lot of new information or confirming knowledge from the national survey, but also using that national survey to start the conversation with each of the individual agencies. You know, how does this national data look for you? Is it true or how different it is? And so I think we've learned a lot, and there's a lot more that we're going to unravel in this process.   Carol: I love it. The CSNAs, you know, I think states for a long time did it as a check the box. We have to do the thing. We're going to contract to somebody to do the thing. Here's the thing. It's 300 pages. All right. We put it on the shelf. It's in the electronic folder. But I have noticed this over the years we've been doing the QM work. People are really taking the CSNA and actually paying attention to it and starting to put all the dots together, linking that as the basis for then what flows into the state plan flows into goals and priorities and really connecting and spending more time. The thing I've been very hopeful of is spending time with direct staff so that they understand the whole process, because staff will hear about this stuff, but they don't really understand it or what is that about? And now people are linking like, here's why we're doing all of this. We're actually finding out what's the situation in our state, and we're taking this and we're putting together goals and priorities within our state plan based on this data, this information. So it all links together, because I think people feel like everybody's just doing these random activities, but they actually all come together.   Mari: Yeah.   Carol: So that I have seen as a change, definitely in the five plus years I've been doing TA work now, I've seen a big swing and I've loved it, because now people are digging down in the organization and including not just your executive leadership and middle managers. They're including the line staff and having them have an understanding of what's going on so that they can understand their contributions to this overall big picture. So I love that.   Mari: Yeah, and we learned that from the Cal Promise Project We had this whole large, comprehensive database and our team were able to put together, I guess, reports of here's what the data is looking like, here's how your region is being impacted, and the transition specialists, the people who are meeting with the families and with the students, like we've never seen this before. We're always feeding data to our supervisor. Our boss is always asking for data, and so we give it to them. But we never know what happens to it. And now it makes sense. This is how my work is impacting people.   Carol: Absolutely. It's mind blowing to the staff because when you go out, you're talking and you're like, okay. They're like, well, why is Congress doing all this crazy stuff with our money or whatever is going on? I always tell them, I go, the only way your story can be told because they don't know all your anecdotal, really neat. You got Joe, a job like this is awesome and it's a great career and you know, all this great things are happening. They don't know any of that. They only know by the data you put in the system. And when you put data in the system, that isn't very good. That's the picture, the story that your agency is telling. This is the only way for other people to make decisions. You just see this. Aha. Like people are like, oh well this stuff actually does matter. And it is being used for something and then they can figure it out. And I love it when you get down in regional levels because then they go like and they'll know what's going on. Sometimes up here the management's like, oh they're trying to figure out what's happening in that region. Talk to the staff. They see boots on the ground, what's going on. So the data confirms what's been happening in that area. And then the whole agency having that conversation, it's really exciting and super empowering and energizing. I feel like for their customers and what's going to happen for their people, I love that. The other thing I was going to say, Mari too, is we've been seeing a slight improvement in staffing levels. Now it seems like things for some reason, because we work with a load of states and we talk a lot about this particular issue, the staffing levels, it's been leveling off with that whole people leaving, leaving, leaving, leaving, leaving. And now I've had a couple agencies in the last year where they were sitting at 25, 30% now. They're at 5% and 8% turnover. Like there have been significant changes because of all of the things they put into play to not only get staff, but to keep them, to retain them. So we've been trying to do some efforts on our end and we can't say it's all us, you know, but people have been putting a lot of strategy into this, and it's really fun to see on this other side, this more encouraging landscape for the staff out there.   Mari: Wow, that's great to hear.   Carol: Yeah. So I'm hopeful for you guys as you're carrying this out. So now what are your plans for year two as you go into year two? What are you guys hoping to accomplish this year?   Mark: I think it'll be a busy year for us. I think one of the major efforts, you know, we've already kind of alluded to a little bit, which is get the national survey out there to get that information back, have our team kind of start analyzing the results. We'll use that data. As I said before, we'll triangulate that with other information sources that we have our team working on. You mentioned comprehensive statewide needs assessments and state plans. Our team is doing an analysis of that specifically through the lens of underserved populations to see what can be gleaned from those statewide reports. And they're triangulating that also with kind of other forms of published literature around underserved populations. So there's a lot of kind of building that kind of database of information will be focused on executing agreements with the first of the agencies that are going to be involved with kind of the intensive phases of Rise Up, while at the same time kind of establishing the groundwork for agencies that we will add to the Rise Up group, you know, to as we work towards our goal of getting to up to ten state agencies. And then I think as we work with each of the agencies, kind of to begin to identify the populations that they want to focus on for, you know, kind of sustained efforts to enhance getting folks in the door, getting them into plan, getting them services. The outcomes will also begin to kind of roll out. You know, one aspect of Rise Up will be training. Some of it will be technical assistance. That will be kind of systems change focused efforts. We'll begin to roll out initial training. Some of those will focus on topics like cultural humility And then we'll be using the literature search, the national survey, consultation with the agencies that we're working with to lend direction to the development of additional trainings that will be kind of targeted towards all levels of the organization. And then within the agencies that we begin to work with, we'll also begin kind of identifying the targeted and specific areas of need for technical assistance that will be unique to each of the agencies. So I see those as kind of the major tasks that will be kind of getting into in the beginning of year two and then kind of sustaining through the next year.   Carol: That is super exciting. I'm really excited about this. I would love to talk to you guys too, again at the end of like next year to see where things are at. Now, I understand you to, I believe, or somebody coming to CSAVR and people may want to chat with you. Is there a way folks could reach out to you if they are interested in talking to you about the project?   Mark: Sure.   Mari: Yeah   Mark: Yeah, so we will be at CSVAR, our project coordinator, Letty Vavasour will be there. Mari will be there. I will be there. So we're certainly kind of approachable there. As we mentioned before, CSAVR is a project partner of ours, and we mentioned encore. I think they're going to be there as well at CSAVR. And one other partner we haven't mentioned, but we should give them some credit, is a major partner with us is the George Washington Center for Rehabilitation Counseling, Research and Education. They're also a project partner with us and will be instrumental in kind of our efforts. So CSAVR is one place where folks can connect with us. Our team is working on a website, so we should have that up kind of in the near future. That's another way to get a hold of us. Email is always a good way to get a hold of us. I'm easy to get a hold of by email at MTucker at SDSU.edu and Mari is MGuillermo@SDSU.edu. So those are kind of really easy ways to get Ahold of us. And then of course Interwork Institute and the VRTAC-QM, we're sort of housed right there and involved in a number of those projects going on there so folks can track us down through Interwork or the QM.   Carol: Excellent. And, Mari, would you mind, Mari, would you spell out your email address? Just in case, because like me, it's like, how is that spelled?   Mari: And for those of you who know Spanish, my last name is Guillermo, which is William in Spanish, but it's m g as in George. U I L L E R M as in Mari o at SDSU.edu.   Carol: Excellent. Thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time. I'm super excited. And I wish our listeners could see like, the excitement on both of your faces about this project because it makes me like, super happy. I mean, the project couldn't be in better hands. You guys always do really good work out of Interwork, and I'm really excited to see what comes. So let's definitely chat again down the road.   Mark: That would be great.   Carol: Thanks for joining me.   Mari: Absolutely. Thank you Carol.   {Music}   Outro Voice: Conversations powered by VR, one manager at a time, one minute at a time, brought to you by the VR TAC for Quality Management. Catch all of our podcast episodes by subscribing on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening!

Mentor Moments Season Three Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. This episode features Rachael Rehagen and Jessica Doebber and their work in co-creating the Professional Engagement Questionnaire (PEQ)! This service learning project was a collaboration between MRA eastern chapter and Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling's Assessment class. Enjoy the conversation and learn about the PEQ! Rachael is a graduate student at Maryville University and is currently pursuing her Master's in Rehabilitation Counseling. With a professional background in Human Resources and clinical counseling, Rachael has specialized in supporting transitional youth as they enter the workforce. Her commitment to professional engagement is evident through her continuous pursuit of learning and dedication to excellence in the field of Rehabilitation Counseling. Jessica is currently enrolled as a graduate student at Maryville University, pursuing a Master's degree in Rehabilitation Counseling. Over the past two semesters, she has contributed as the Graduate Assistant within the program. Her professional journey includes internships at both a private practice and a vocational program tailored to college students with disabilities. Jessica is passionate about helping people find excitement and meaning in their field of work.  Welcome to Mentor Moments, the podcast where distinctive journeys shape the individuals we become. Join us for engaging counseling conversations that delve deep into personal journeys while focusing on pressing professional issues. In this season of Mentor Moments, we're honored to feature remarkable individuals who not only introduce you to the world of rehabilitation counseling but also tackle current topics and issues that matter. Each episode invites you into the minds of our guests as they share their unique perspectives. Follow us at: Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠mentor.momentsMRA@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: @mentor.moments Website: https://www.mraeasternchapter.com/maryvillerc

Mentor Moments Season Three Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. This episode features Heather Hanvy and her experience and passion for creating positive change! Learn a little more about Heather! Heather is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC) and Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) in the state of Missouri. She received her Master of Arts in Rehabilitation Counseling in 2014 from Maryville University after earning her Bachelor of Arts in Psychology with a minor in Education from Maryville in 2012. She has had almost ten years of experience as a therapist with eight years of experience providing mental health services in the school setting which includes providing counseling and crisis intervention services to students and their families. She has also worked in several community mental health settings providing individual and group therapy to adolescents and adults, including adolescents who have experienced sex trafficking and/ or sexual exploitation. She is also a Youth Mental Health First Aid instructor and a private practice therapist in a group therapy practice seeing children, adolescents, adults, families, and couples for therapy.  In addition, she has also taught Practicum, Internship, and Advanced Internship as an adjunct faculty member for Maryville's Rehabilitation Counseling graduate program where she earned the Adjunct Faculty of the Year award in May 2021.  Welcome to Mentor Moments, the podcast where distinctive journeys shape the individuals we become. Join us for engaging counseling conversations that delve deep into personal journeys while focusing on pressing professional issues. In this season of Mentor Moments, we're honored to feature remarkable individuals who not only introduce you to the world of rehabilitation counseling but also tackle current topics and issues that matter. Each episode invites you into the minds of our guests as they share their unique perspectives. Follow us at: Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠mentor.momentsMRA@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: @mentor.moments Website: https://www.mraeasternchapter.com/maryvillerc

[00:00:03] Trina Fullard: I never intended to go to college to play basketball. It was not a plan for me. Academics was my focus. The day that the coach from college came to watch me play, I didn't even know she was there because he never told me until the game was over. And he said, I want you to meet someone, and that's when he introduced me to Vicki Staten, who was my college coach. And I just asked him, I said, why didn't you tell me that somebody was going to be here watching me play, he said, because I didn't want you to be worried about what's around the corner, I wanted you to stay in the moment. -- [00:00:41] Tommy Thomas: Our guests tonight are Trina and Kevin Fullard. Kevin took his B.A. in Psychology from Washington Jefferson College. He took his Master's of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling from West Virginia University. [00:00:56] Tommy Thomas: He's the founder and principal at Unique Consulting and Professional Services, and we'll get him to tell us a little bit about that as we get in. Trina also took her B.A. in psychology from Washington and Jefferson. She took her Master's of Arts in Rehabilitation Counseling from the University of Maryland. [00:01:14] Tommy Thomas: Trina is the CEO, and President-elect at Charlotte Rescue Mission, but on June the 1st, they're going to remove the elect piece of that title, and she will become the President and CEO of Charlotte Rescue Mission. In full disclosure, I must say that I met Trina, our firm, JobFitMatters Executive Search, did the CEO search there. [00:01:39] Tommy Thomas: And as a part of our process we like to interview as many board members and staff members as we can to learn about the organization. And Trina was in my group of people to interview. As we got into the conversation, I just felt like I was talking to somebody that I had known forever and I just could see leadership written all over this lady. [00:02:00] Tommy Thomas: During the conversation, she shared a little bit about her basketball career and that her husband also played football. And I thought, now this would be a good podcast to get the two of y'all on together. So Trina and Kevin, welcome to NextGen Nonprofit Leadership. [00:02:16] Trina Fullard: Thank you. Thank you, Tommy. [00:02:19] Tommy Thomas: We've had a little sub-theme going here about the coaches in my life. We're going to talk a little bit about life and leadership lessons that people who've done well and intercollegiate athletics have learned from the coaches in their life. And this could go back to the coaches in grammar school on through college. [00:02:36] Tommy Thomas: If you haven't heard one of these kind of conversations before, that's our format. Before I dive too deep into that, maybe each of you tell me a little bit about your childhood and somewhere along the way, tell me how you met each other. [00:02:55] Trina Fullard: Okay. I'll start. I grew up in a small town in Pennsylvania in the suburbs of Pittsburgh and, essentially learned as a young child how to be a strong independent young woman. I'm the oldest of two siblings. I have a younger sister who I grew up in the home with, and so I was always a caretaker and looking out for her. [00:03:17] Trina Fullard: I had a really strong will to be the best at everything wanted to be. A straight-A student, wanted to excel in whatever I was doing and continued that along the way, all the way up through high school, and then my first experience, probably where I had a coach was probably cheerleading in Little League Mighty Might says, you would mighty might football players needed the little cheerleaders. Being a mighty mite cheerleader was my first experience at being part of a team and having to work with other folks for us to be good at something. [00:03:46] Trina Fullard: To root them on, but that was my first experience at being a part of a team and having to work with other folks for us to be good at something. So I'll let Kev talk a little bit about his childhood before we talk about how we met. [00:04:03] Kevin Fullard: I also grew up in a suburb of Pittsburgh, but I was closer to the inner city. [00:04:10] Kevin Fullard: Okay. So my experience was a little different. Because with the inner city of Pittsburgh, education originally wasn't the main focus. We had a lot of focus on sports because I knew there was a bigger place outside of that area. And just trying to figure out the path to be able to excel, to get out. So education became a piece of the puzzle as well as the athletics to be able to move forward and really just try to do better in life and be able to use that to go back and help the people that show them this is a pattern and a path to be able to exceed. Education and athletics showed me that there was a bigger place outside of the inner city and I could go there. [00:05:06] Tommy Thomas: Wow. And how did y'all get together? [00:05:09] Trina Fullard: We like to tell the story that there was a bet that I didn't know about. And Kevin is a year ahead of me. He graduated a year ahead. And when I got to Washington and Jefferson as a freshman, he was a sophomore. And there were not many black students on the campus of Washington and Jefferson at the time, about 1200 students and there were about 17 of us. [00:05:36] Trina Fullard: Oh, my, right? And Kevin inquired from some friends of his about, who's that young girl? I think with the incoming freshman class. [00:05:50] Kevin Fullard: Because I played football. We were there during the summer before the freshman students came in. So as the freshman class came in, we would look out of the window and see, oh that person over there. [00:06:06] Kevin Fullard: She looks cute. And we would try to find their names and pictures in the little freshman book to say, I need to get a little more information on her. [00:06:15] Trina Fullard: My book, my picture wasn't in the book, Tommy. I didn't send it in. And I'm not quite sure why. I think maybe our senior pictures weren't ready at the time. [00:06:26] Trina Fullard: So he had to ask around a little bit and what I learned later after we started dating was that one of the upper-class girls had said to him, even though you're asking about her, she's out of your league. She won't date you and they bet him that he couldn't get me to go out with him. [00:06:51] Trina Fullard: And so our first date during my freshman year was during the winter basketball season. He was at home on break from his football. The football season had ended. We had just ended it. So he called me and he asked me, what was I doing? And I said, oh, I just finished practice. [00:07:09] Trina Fullard: And he lived about 40 minutes from the college. He drove all the way back to the college. Knocked on my door, I opened the door, not realizing I had just spoken to him on the phone and I knew he was at home and I'm like, what are you doing here? And he said, put on a sweatshirt. We're going to go for a ride and I'm like, I just finished practice. [00:07:36] Trina Fullard: I'm not in the mood for going out anywhere and he was not going to take no for an answer. So we jump in the car and he takes me to an outdoor ice skating rink. Now I really think he's crazy because I'm like, it's the middle of basketball season. I've never been ice skating before. And you think I'm going to get on some ice skates so I can fall? [00:08:01] Kevin Fullard: This was the opportunity for me to see if she was really an athlete. Ha. Oh me. [00:08:09] Trina Fullard: So I think we sat in the car for about 20 minutes. Yes. Uhhuh. And he promised that he would not let me fall. And we got out, we had a great time and I probably fell more than she did. Yeah. But then, after that, it was a really good time for us to bond as two people, two young college students. [00:08:33] Trina Fullard: Trying to navigate through an experience that really turned out, I think, pretty well. 32 years going and we're still going strong. [00:08:44] Tommy Thomas: I think that's pretty good. I think that's real good. Yeah. So both of you then were on your respective athletic teams there. [00:08:52] Tommy Thomas: Were you both on a scholarship or did they have scholarships back then for your division or how did that go? [00:08:59] Kevin Fullard: For our division, we didn't have full scholarships, so they gave us partial scholarships. I think we both had some athletic scholarships, but also education scholarship monies that they were able to give us. [00:09:17] Kevin Fullard: And so that was the avenue we took to be able to pay for our time at W&J. [00:09:27] Trina Fullard: They were very creative because we needed academic money, then there also was a little bit of need-based as well. I'm a first generation college student, but Kevin's older brother was the first generation college student and he went to W&J and Kevin essentially followed him and he played football as well. [00:09:50] Trina Fullard: So his brother had started the path for college for his family. -- [00:09:55] Tommy Thomas: What do you remember about about your first coach at athletics? [00:10:00] Kevin Fullard: My first coach was during little league baseball. And I think he really just taught a lot about understanding the game of baseball and trying to figure out how to work together as a team. [00:10:17] Kevin Fullard: Because growing up, I had the friends in the neighborhood that we would play with and those were friends, but I realized becoming a part of a team was slightly different because now I'm working with and relying on people that really aren't my friends, but we have to work together in order to achieve a common goal. [00:10:42] Kevin Fullard: So that was a great job that the coach did to get us to understand how to build a bond together and understand which or what each person was responsible for so that we could work together. [00:11:00] Trina Fullard: So my first athletic coach was in high school. I started playing basketball only because a friend of mine wanted someone to be on the team that was a friend of hers. [00:11:12] Trina Fullard: I think I learned how athletic I was and how skilled I was at picking things up quickly and then being able to excel at them from my coach in high school. And then I also learned from him that I could learn how not to anticipate. Just be in the moment. [00:11:43] Trina Fullard: And enjoy the moment and don't get all, as we would say, get all crossed up around what's around the corner. And I say that because I never intended to go to college to play basketball. It was not a plan for me. Academics was my focus. The day that the coach from college came to watch me play, I didn't even know she was there because he never told me until the game was over. My high school basketball coach taught me not to anticipate, but to live in the moment. [00:12:12] Trina Fullard: And he said, I want you to meet someone, and that's when he introduced me to Vicki Staten, who was my college coach. And I just asked him, I said, why didn't you tell me that somebody was going to be here watching me play, he said, because I didn't want you to be worried about what's around the corner, I wanted you to stay in the moment. [00:12:33] Tommy Thomas: Good life lesson. [00:12:35] Tommy Thomas: Yeah, absolutely. What coach has, do you think, got the most out of you? [00:12:43] Kevin Fullard: I think from my perspective, the coach that I had as my defensive back coach in college definitely got the most out of me. And I think part of it was because I was becoming of age where I understood there is more to the game than just the game. My college defensive back coach taught me that there is a lot more to football than the game of football.  He taught life lessons that extended far beyond football. [00:13:05] Kevin Fullard: And he really focused a lot on how playing football would relate to outside of the game. How the skills we're learning in football would transition into life experiences and life lessons. And that was a very important thing to learn at that time. So he's definitely the one that got the most out of me as an athlete, but I think myself as a person as well. [00:13:42] Trina Fullard: I would agree. My college coach pulled a lot from me. And as I said earlier, I started playing the game of basketball in high school and she believed in me enough to bring me onto a team knowing that there was a lot more growth that she could pour into and and then being a leader she pressed me into that leadership role into in my sophomore and junior year of setting an example. [00:14:13] Trina Fullard: And even on the bus, studying on the bus for younger athletes that came to see that, yeah, we're on the bus and we're going to, we have a four-hour ride to the game, but it's not about just sitting around and having a great time. There's still time to focus at some point. She would take me on her recruiting trips to talk to other players about what the experience was like at Washington and Jefferson, being on the basketball team and a part of the team and spending time riding in a car with her, listening to her talk about life and what life was going to be like after college. [00:14:50] Trina Fullard: She gave me a book when I graduated and said, do what you love and the money will follow. That book was instrumental for me to realize after undergrad that I had to go on to grad school and continue to education. [00:15:08] Tommy Thomas: So I think you've probably answered this question, but I was going to say at what point did you realize that your coach was trying to teach you more than basketball? [00:15:17] Tommy Thomas: And it sounds like it sounded like that was a reasonably early-on experience in your college athletic experience. [00:15:25] Trina Fullard: I think for me, Washington and Jefferson College and being so ingrained in the athletic space there we both also worked in the athletic office, so we were connected to all of the coaches and would support all of the teams, and so I think we both benefited from interacting with the coaches and life lessons sitting in the office, talking with them in the athletic office as they were just talking about, their families and hearing them talk about things that they were dealing with, we got that as a byproduct for the entire time that we were there. I know we worked in the athletic office for all four years. [00:16:17] Kevin Fullard: And I think for me, it may not have come until my sophomore year. And the big lesson that really stood out for me, and I use it a lot from a counseling perspective. Now I tell a lot of people, especially if I'm working with young kids I try to tell them egos are overrated. [00:16:40] Kevin Fullard: This is one of the big lessons that I try to work with young people on because as a freshman coming in, I felt I was a great athlete coming out of high school, but I wasn't a good teammate coming out of high school because I thought with from an ego perspective, I can do it all. Whatever the team needs, just rely on me. [00:17:06] Kevin Fullard: I'll get it done. And it took the coach through the freshman year to make me realize - No, we all have to be a team. And that came with, I think a lot more maturity. [00:17:24] Tommy Thomas: No matter how hard and dedicated you are to something failure is always an option. What did you learn from team sports about failure that's helped you in life? [00:17:37] Kevin Fullard: I think that the big lesson that I've learned with failure, and this goes back to, I think my little league experience playing baseball. I used to be a pitcher in little league and our team made it to the championship game. My grandmother was very influential in my life and I pitched what I thought was a great game until the last inning and I threw a pitch and gave up a home run. [00:18:11] Kevin Fullard: So we lost the game in the championship game two to one and I came home and I was crying and crying. Laid across my grandmother's lap and as a grandmother would do, she said, what happened in the game? And I explained to her, we lost. I gave up a home run in the last inning and I felt like I cost us the game. [00:18:37] Kevin Fullard: And my grandmother said to me, did you do your best? And I went in to explain to her I threw my best pitch. My best pitch was a curveball. I threw it. I thought it was perfect and he hit it out of the stadium. And my grandmother said, you threw your best pitch. That's all I've ever asked of you. Give it your best. [00:19:03] Kevin Fullard: And let the outcome be the outcome. Just hearing her say she was proud. I carry that through life. [00:19:14] Trina Fullard: Yeah. Failure for me resonates from one high school basketball game where we were playing this team that was considered to be like the powerhouse and at the end of the first half of the game, we had only scored 5 points and this is high school. [00:19:45] Trina Fullard: And I remember, I think it was something like 60 to five or something, and they didn't have a mercy rule back then. And so we went in the locker room and, the whole team, we're just like, we can't believe this, this is just ridiculous. And our coach said to us, listen, this is not about winning and losing. [00:20:09] Trina Fullard: It's about your effort. You may not score 20 points. But you, the team in here, you all have to set a goal and as a team together and you work together, you hold your head up and you go out there and you do the best you can. We just felt so defeated. [00:20:32] Trina Fullard: It took us a minute, we thought about what he said. And we set a goal, we said, we're going to go out there and we're going to score at least 10. So we're going to end up with at least 15. And we lost that game 103 to 35, but we had met our goal. And so the lesson for us at that time was together, even if we don't conquer, we're never going to give up and we're not going to hang our heads. [00:21:05] Trina Fullard: Because again, as Kevin said, we did the best we could. We were clearly outmatched, but we didn't stop playing. We didn't just pack up our little bag and just go home. -- [00:21:18] Tommy Thomas: It's often said that we learn the most when we fail in something, if that's the case, why are we so afraid to fail? [00:21:30] Kevin Fullard: I think people become afraid to fail, not necessarily because of what's in them, but I think they're afraid of the judgment that comes along with failure. And, I try to get people to understand we can't compete or do anything in life with fear and worry about how people will judge us. I think people become afraid to fail, not necessarily because of what's in them, but I think they're afraid of the judgment that comes along with failure. [00:22:01] Trina Fullard: Yeah, I think the same thing, even if I look at the failures in my life what was I worried about, what was what the story would be, if you will. And so that's where I think a lot of times looking inside and saying, okay. What do I want to come out of this? [00:22:26] Trina Fullard: What lesson can I learn? That's what I've always come back to is, okay, it didn't go the way I wanted. Okay, Lord, what's the lesson in it for me so that I continue to move forward? [00:22:42] Tommy Thomas: I've got two things on the legendary coach, Dean Smith from Chapel Hill. And one of his quotes was, what do you do with the mistake? Recognize it, learn from it, admit it, and forget it. [00:22:56] Kevin Fullard: There you go. Exactly. I would agree a hundred percent. [00:23:03] Trina Fullard: Don't forget the learn from it part though. [00:23:05] Tommy Thomas: In his book, it's how you play the game. The 12 leadership lessons of Dean Smith. David Chadwick, a local pastor there in Charlotte who played on one of coach Smith's final four teams writes the concept of team may be coach Smith's greatest contribution to basketball leadership and society. Both of you work with a lot of teams. How has the concept of a team impacted your life? [00:23:30] Trina Fullard: Oh, man, I would say it developed me into becoming what I would say is a collaborative leader, understanding that I need to set the playing field. And establish the rules for the team and, as long as those are clear everyone understands what their role is, and we can accomplish great things. I think it also requires me sometimes to, if I look at a football field, to sometimes be on the sideline with the team, but then sometimes I need to go up into the booth. And I need to see from a different angle. But just collaboratively being engaged and being in it when I need to be in it and reflecting back and allowing the team to work. [00:24:22] Kevin Fullard: Yeah, and I think for me, from the team perspective, being able to look at the different players that make up the team, because I always believe we're as strong as the weakest link. And sometimes being able to identify people's strengths as well as their weaknesses is important in leadership and teamwork. [00:24:52] Kevin Fullard: Because if I know one person has a particular weakness, but we can rally around them to make that weakness not something that's going to make the chain break, then that's a great focus for us to be on. [00:25:16] Tommy Thomas: Another quote on team, a group is a bunch of people in an elevator. A team is a bunch of people in an elevator, but the elevator is broken. [00:25:27] Trina Fullard: I like that. [00:25:35] Tommy Thomas: Yeah, you have to you have to think on that. To let that one sink in. Let me go to risk for a minute. We all have taken risks. Some more than others. [00:25:45] Tommy Thomas: What's the biggest risk you've taken in life and how did it turn out? [00:25:55] Kevin Fullard: I would think the biggest risk that I've taken in life was the relocation to Charlotte from Pittsburgh, being able to move away from a support system, a network, because we didn't know anyone in Charlotte when we came down. I've never been to Charlotte, but I have family who live down towards the Wilmington area. The biggest risk that I've taken in life. was the relocation to Charlotte from Pittsburgh – moving away from our support system because we didn't know anyone in Charlotte when we came down.   [00:26:27] Kevin Fullard: So I knew I enjoyed the weather of Charlotte and I wanted to get away from the snow of Pittsburgh. Yes. And that was the biggest risk because I didn't have a job I came to find out one of my cousins whom I knew as a child, but we hadn't seen each other in 15 years, had moved to Charlotte, so just coming down and having faith that we're going to make this work, and I think it was good for us as a couple because we became the new team, the team that we had in Pittsburgh. [00:27:08] Kevin Fullard: Her team that she grew up with and my team that I grew up with was no longer. That team, they were that group in the elevator. We were now the team that was in the elevator. [00:27:25] Tommy Thomas: Yeah. You both have mentioned the faith in your life. As people of faith, how do you deal with your competitive streak? [00:27:38] Trina Fullard: I think this kind of might be one of the areas where we might be a little bit, a little different. For me, it is just relying on God to help me to keep it about serving him in a way that I can feel comfortable. Being competitive is not necessarily against the other person, but competing against myself. [00:28:07] Trina Fullard: When we go bowling, where we're a family of athletes bowling now has become like the thing we compete at. Our son is an avid bowler as well. But at the end of the day, it's about the ability to still be in God's grace and in a space and being. [00:28:29] Trina Fullard: Okay. I'm not maybe as much of a competitor as Kevin has been. [00:28:36] Kevin Fullard: Yeah, and I think that is where we there for some because my faith, whenever I'm competing, I've always remembered praying that everyone in the game would be healthy. I never wanted to get into a football game where we cause major injury to anyone. [00:29:02] Kevin Fullard: But in the game, it was truly competition of I'm out to win. There was no gray area. In my mind, and that was always the place I think I struggle from the faith standpoint because it wasn't just me competing, just enjoying my walk, it was me competing because I wanted to achieve this goal. [00:29:36] Kevin Fullard: And this was my goal that I thought the other team was keeping me from. [00:29:43] Tommy Thomas: It can be a struggle. Yes, it can be a struggle. What's the best piece of advice you've ever received from a mentor? [00:30:02] Kevin Fullard: I think from my standpoint, the best piece of advice came from my college advisor during my junior year. We sat down and he was talking to me about what path I wanted in life. And he could tell a lot of the career choices I was picking were very conservative. And so he asked me to tell him my biggest fear. [00:30:38] Kevin Fullard: And I told him my biggest fear was failure. And he sat down and really had a long discussion with me that holding on to a fear of failure will be the thing that would keep me from succeeding. Because I would never allow myself to push the limits. To see what other great things I could do. I would only try to achieve the simple things that I already knew I was good at. [00:31:15] Tommy Thomas: So was going to graduate school, was that a fear? Was that outside your comfort zone or was that something that you just knew you were going to do? [00:31:25] Kevin Fullard: Graduate school for me, wasn't something I knew I was going to do. I had this false belief of I'm going to get my bachelor's degree in psychology, and I was going to make 75,000 as my first job, and my advisor said to me, he said, okay, if that's your goal, I'm not going to tell you not to go for that. He said, but do me a favor, apply for graduate school. He said, I'll give you the whole summer to find the job that's going to pay you what you're looking for. And if you find it, you don't have to go to graduate school, but if you don't I win and you go to graduate school. So I told her I said, okay I'll take that deal and I searched, and the job that I found probably paid me about 20,000. [00:32:26] Kevin Fullard: So in the middle of December, I called my advisor and I told him I guess I'm going to graduate school. You win. [00:32:35] Tommy Thomas: What about you Trina? [00:32:37] Trina Fullard: For me I didn't really have, I would say, a mentor, that imparted some words, some wisdom on me. For me, it was my mom, and she passed in 2015. But the one thing that she would say to me, as I was going into high school, going into college, going into graduate school, when I became a mom, she would say to me this all the time. [00:33:05] Trina Fullard: She said, Trina, when people meet you and they get to know you, there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be expecting that there's another shoe that's going to drop as though when they meet you, that's not who you really are. She said, I know there's not another shoe. Don't you forget that. So I've carried that with me throughout a lot of all these experiences that I've had in the last few years because I walk into a lot of rooms. [00:33:41] Trina Fullard: And I get stares or looks or people are wondering, oh who's she, why is she here? And I've had to get to know people who are trying to wonder, is this lady for real? Is she really who she says she is? And I just remember my mom, hearing my mom's voice saying, there's no other shoe. [00:34:02] Trina Fullard: Just remember that. [00:34:07] Tommy Thomas: Hopefully we've come out of the pandemic. That may be debatable, but thinking back on the lessons you learned in the pandemic what's the biggest lesson you think you'll take forward, that you thought I learned that we can do that next year, pandemic or not? [00:34:25] Trina Fullard: I learned resilience. Early on, right when we weren't really sure what the pandemic really meant and how it was going to affect people. I was diagnosed with Covid and had got it from a coworker. And this house went into like fortress mode. I was, locked in the room, literally anytime I came out, I had to notify everyone I was coming out of the room. The pandemic taught me resilience. [00:34:52] Trina Fullard: My husband treated me like I was in jail. But that we were faced early on with, this is a health issue. It's a health risk. Unfortunately, my coworker who I had caught it from passed away. So that put it like in our face. But we learned early on that our family was resilient and we could create our bubble and we could move from day to day and place to place. [00:35:20] Trina Fullard: And that we were going to be okay. And then we also knew as we prayed and we were like, okay, God, you got to cover us. We are essential workers. So there was no isolating and just, being in the house, we were still going to work each and every day. And so for me, it was resilient and that we could get through. [00:35:44] Kevin Fullard: And I think for me, going through that period of COVID was learning the fact of not being afraid of the unknown because no one at that time knew what it was going to be like. I saw on TV where they were having the trailers outside of the hospitals putting all of the dead bodies and there was that fear. ​​The pandemic taught me more about not being afraid of the unknown. [00:36:17] Kevin Fullard: But it also made me realize I was still going into hospitals, doctors' offices, meeting with my clients because they needed me there. And I had to overcome that fear of just focusing on myself and having faith that I will be protected, that God was watching over me, and that as long as I do His will, everything will be safe. -- [00:36:48] Tommy Thomas: Let me wrap it up with a couple of kind of closing questions. One, if you could go back in time and tell a younger version of yourself something, what would you say? [00:37:10] Trina Fullard: Don't look back. [00:37:12] Trina Fullard: Leave your past in the past and keep your eyes focused on what's ahead of you. [00:37:19] Kevin Fullard: And I think for me, it would be the people in your life who are meant to be with you will always be with you. That there are some people that you just can't bring along for the ride. [00:37:42] Tommy Thomas: Say you're invited to a banquet next week and this will happen to you many times in the next 15-20 years, you're invited to a banquet and you're sitting beside a total stranger. How do you start a meaningful conversation? Share. [00:38:01] Trina Fullard: There are so many options with that, Tommy. It depends on the setting, the event. But if I'm sitting next to a total stranger I would just say, hey, my name's Trina. What's yours? [00:38:19] Kevin Fullard: I think if I was sitting in the banquet, I would probably ask them, what's their role, what do you do? Because that's usually a big conversation starter. People can take that question in many different ways. And so that's a way that I always try to figure out what's important to that person's life. [00:38:47] Tommy Thomas: If you could meet any historical figure and ask them only one question, who would you want to meet and what would the question be? [00:39:03] Trina Fullard: If I could meet one person, I would love to meet Michelle Obama. And I would ask her what motivates her. What drives you to move the way you move? [00:39:28] Kevin Fullard: I think I would want to meet Nelson Mandela to find out how do you hold on to the thing that you believe when everything around you is trying to destroy that belief and that drive you have and to keep that passion to still deliver the message that you want to deliver. [00:39:59] Tommy Thomas: What small act of kindness were you once shown that you'll never forget? [00:40:22] Kevin Fullard: The act of kindness, and it's probably a very simple thing, but it meant the world to me was standing outside as a, probably a 10-year-old, nine-year-old. And we used to walk to the store and we grew up without a lot of money. And we were standing outside of the ice cream shop. It was a hot day and a customer who was walking in knew we didn't have any money to buy the ice cream and something as simple as she said, can you guys come in with me and help me carry something? And so we were being nice and we went in to help her. We thought she would have something big she needed to carry. And when we went in with her, she had us pick out an ice cream cone and she said, I just want you to carry this back outside. And that just meant the world to me because that act of kindness made me want to do those things for others. [00:41:47] Trina Fullard: For me, Tommy, right now it centers around the last few months that my mother was alive. She lived here in Charlotte and stayed with us primarily. And I have a group of friends that there are four ladies and they knew how tough that was on me. And so randomly, they would come to the hospital and just sit, it was like, they took turns, like just being that moral support. [00:42:21] Trina Fullard: And, for me, it was Trina go downstairs and get something to eat. I'll sit here with your mom while you go downstairs, she would be going for a test. One of them would be there and say, nope, I'll go down and I'll be there while she's going through that test. So you can have a minute just so that you can breathe and I knew they were my friends, but I think I really knew how much I meant to them and how our bond got stronger. Because that time for me was very hard and they were just there and I'll never forget them for how they just showed up at a time when I'm not really good at asking for help, but I didn't have to ask them. [00:43:09] Tommy Thomas: This has been a great conversation. Thank y'all for taking time from your evening to spend this time with me and the audience. And Karina I was thinking this afternoon, I want to circle back to you about six months after you've been in the corner office and we want to talk about what this first six months being the CEO was like. [00:43:29] Tommy Thomas: So I'm all for it. I appreciate that. I hope I have lots to share.   Links & Resources JobfitMatters Website Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas The Perfect Search – What every board needs to know about hiring their next CEO Charlotte Rescue Mission   Connect tthomas@jobfitmatters.com Follow Tommy on LinkedIn Follow Kevin Fullard on LinkedIn Follow Trina Fullard on LinkedIn   Listen to Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Google Podcasts

We've just come through "love week" and how fortuitous... I'm speaking with Jean Marie this week about Love, Light and why love is so important for your wellness. Dr. Jean Marie Farish is the Host of VoiceAmerica World Talk Radio Empowerment Show LOVE LIGHT, Author, Educator, Life Care Coach, and Founder/CEO of Dr. Jean Marie Farish Center for Conscious Loving, LLC and Life Care Wellness PEP for Angels, Inc. with emphasis on children hospitalized. Dr. Jean Marie is an award-winning author and has authored 7 books including her seminal books, "Living in the Spirit of Love: Our Natural State of Being" and companion book "Love Mastery Devotion Journal: Weekly 21-Day Journal Prompts and Affirmations"; co-authored and contributed to 15 books, and served as a writer for 'Sivana East' Blog. She has been a Guest on podcasts in the US and internationally and featured in PUBLISHED!, BookMad and Sparks of Inspiration Magazines. She is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC) and has successfully combined her education background and training (Ph.D. in Rehabilitation, MS in Rehabilitation Counseling, and BA in Psychology), 28-year career as administrator and professor in higher education, almost a decade of service as a Rehabilitation Counselor Practitioner and Vocational Expert, and transformational life experiences in her life's work. Connect with Jean Marie here... https://drjeanmariefarish-consciousloving.com YouTube Channel: Dr. Jean Marie Farish @LoveLight Living Host, VoiceAmerica Empowerment Show LOVE LIGHT Show Link: https://www.voiceamerica.com/3934/love-light Email: jean72farish@yahoo.com Facebook Group: Lover's Lane FEEL GOOD NOW! Community: https://m.facebook.com/groups/444820079492 Facebook Page: Love Cocktail Minute: Relax Refresh Renew https://m.facebook.com/p/Love-Cocktail-Minute-Relax-Refresh-Renew-100063475535295/ Lost and not sure where to begin? I have a free downloadable roadmap for you to begin your process of not only figuring out where you want to go but where you are now! https://heatherstewart.coach/tlm-map-download Did you miss any episodes? You can find me on all the podcast places! https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/1sUjyuFzzvb Connect with me on FaceBook and Instagram https://www.facebook.com/heatherstewartcoaches https://www.instagram.com/heatherstewartcoaching/ Curious to find out more about how coaching can help?Book a Curiosity Call with me! https://practice.do/me/heather-stewart/book/coaching-discovery-call #b2m #backtome #back2me #wellnessyourway #prosperityflowcoaching #expansioncoach #lifebalance #joyinthejourney #lifecoachtowomen #findyourbalance #achievegoals #positivemind #lifemoments #lifecoachingtips #mindsetiskey #createyourlife #lifecoachingforwomen #dowhatyoulove #lifeisbeautiful #happylife #lifecoach --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heatherstewartcoaching/message

Certified Rehabilitation Counselors can explore a wide variety of job settings thanks to their credential. With many options and areas of focus available to them, CRCs can find themselves stuck while considering where they want their career to take them. The most common question we hear from CRCs is how do I navigate my options in private practice? Dr. Aaron Mertes is a CRC and professor at the University of Montana Billings. On the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, hear about Dr. Mertes' career, and learn about why he recently wrote and self-published a book on career paths, options, and opportunities in private rehabilitation counseling. You can purchase Dr. Mertes' book here: https://aaronmertes.com/

Certified Rehabilitation Counselors can explore a wide variety of job settings thanks to their credential. With many options and areas of focus available to them, CRCs can find themselves stuck while considering where they want their career to take them. The most common question we hear from CRCs is how do I navigate my options in private practice? Dr. Aaron Mertes is a CRC and professor at the University of Montana Billings. On the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, hear about Dr. Mertes' career, and learn about why he recently wrote and self-published a book on career paths, options, and opportunities in private rehabilitation counseling. Hear the full episode later this week!

Mentor Moments Season Three Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. This episode features Beth Dauber and her knowledge and passion for assistive technology. Welcome to Mentor Moments, the podcast where distinctive journeys shape the individuals we become. Join us for engaging counseling conversations that delve deep into personal journeys while focusing on pressing professional issues. In this season of Mentor Moments, we're honored to feature remarkable individuals who not only introduce you to the world of rehabilitation counseling but also tackle current topics and issues that matter. Each episode invites you into the minds of our guests as they share their unique perspectives. Beth Dauber, MA, CRC, CBIST is an experienced professional currently serving as a Senior Research Assistant for University of Missouri - Kansas City (UMKC) - Institute for Human Development. With expertise in neurorehabilitation and assistive technology, Beth supports MO-VR staff, leads brain injury discussions, and provides statewide technical assistance. She has developed connections with unique partners and played a key role in creating Missouri Brain Injury Resource Facilitation (MOBIRF). Beth's background includes serving as a Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor, District Supervisor, and Assistant Director of Rehabilitation Technology for Missouri Vocational Rehabilitation (MO-VR), as well as an Adjunct Faculty member at Maryville University. She holds a Master's degree in Rehabilitation Counseling and maintains her credentials as a Certified Brain Injury Specialist Trainer (CBIST) and Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC). Beth is dedicated to empowering individuals with disabilities and actively contributes to professional organizations and committees.

Chris is the best-selling author of Real Estate on Your Terms: Create Continuous Cash Flow Now, Without Using Your Cash or Credit. He's also the founder of SmartRealEstateCoach.com and the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast.   Chris has been in real estate for over 25 years. His experience includes the construction of over 100 single-family and duplex homes (mostly in the 1990's and selectively to date), has owned a Realty Executives Franchise (Massachusetts 1994-2000) as broker/owner which maintained high per-agent standards and eventually sold to Coldwell Banker in 2000. The 2000's included coaching ½ million and higher REALTORs® in order to scale & automate their business throughout the US and Canada. He also participated (and still does selectively) in doing condo conversions (multi-family homes to condos) and “raise the roof” projects (converting single-family ranches to colonials in growth neighborhoods).   Chris has been a big advocate of constant education and participates regularly in high-end mastermind groups, as well as consults with private mentors. He runs his own buying and selling businesses with his family team, which buys 2-5 properties monthly, so they're in the trenches every single week. They also help clients do the same thing around the country.   Chris and his family team have done over 80 million in real estate transactions. They mentor, coach, consult, and actually partner with students around the country (by application only) to do exactly what they do.   Kelsie was born and raised in Southern Illinois. She is a graduate of Southern Illinois University where she earned a Ph.D. in Rehabilitation Counseling and Business Administration. After graduating, she relocated to California. Kelsie has many years of experience in a variety of service provisions, including therapy, program evaluation, and teaching. Kelsie is very passionate about working in business administration. As our Community Director, she is dedicated to creating a supportive environment and quality experience for our associates during their journey within the Wicked Smart® Community.   Kelsie is involved in her local community by helping the homeless population in Los Angeles. She also frequently volunteers with local animal rescue groups and shelters. She enjoys spending time with her dog, Gigi, and cat, Blu. What you will learn in this episode:   Why it is so important to actively work on your mindset, even if you think you are standing in your way How mindset training can help you reach your goals faster What common roadblocks people run into when they are faced with a transition What actions you can take to combat imposter syndrome How to “keep going” and push yourself to learn new skills and habits through actions outside of your comfort zone Resources:   Everyone is always asking us, “How is it possible to buy real estate without using my own cash or credit?” With decades of combined experience in real estate, we've perfected the process of investing creatively. We want to share as much as we can with you, which is exactly why we're running this FREE workshop! If you're thinking about leaving your job, escaping the W-2 lifestyle, and starting on the path towards creating generational wealth — this is for you! To register, just visit: smartrealestatecoach.com/pcws.   Schedule a free strategy session with us. This is an opportunity for you to have an honest conversation with our team about your background, investment goals and create some action steps toward creating the life of your dreams. Together we'll discover where you are, where you want to be, and what's in the way. Just visit: smartrealestatecoach.com/action.   Our free Master's Class is the ONLY webinar where you're given the exact techniques we use in our family company to buy and sell homes every month — all across North America and ALL on TERMS! Register by visiting: smartrealestatecoach.com/mastersclass.   The Wicked Smart Investor's Toolkit is a great way to dip your toe in the water of buying properties on terms. Here you'll receive seller scripts, our investor blueprint, be able to listen to live calls, and much more! Enroll for free at smartrealestatecoach.com/tools.   The Quantum Leap System has everything you'll need to start buying and selling on terms (without banks and without your own money or credit), launch & scale a business that fits your goals, and strengthen your mindset so you can follow the proven path to becoming a successful real estate investor. You can learn more by visiting: smartrealestatecoach.com/qls.   For additional information on lead generation, funding, mindset coaching, legal assistance, virtual staffing, and business growth, visit the Investor Resources section of our website at: smartrealestatecoach.com/resources.   Follow Chris and Zach on Club House to learn even more about deal structures and how to get 3 paydays from your real estate investments.   Chris's Book: Real Estate on Your Terms: https://www.amazon.com/Real-Estate-Your-Terms-Revised-ebook/dp/B08HVVFD2G/   Instant Real Estate Investor eBook: https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ebook/   Find our next workshop here: https://smartrealestatecoach.com/workshop   If you're looking to secure some lines of credit for your business, check out Fund and Grow: www.Smartrealestatecoach.com/fundandgrow   Learn more about Associate Coaching Program Funding here: www.smartrealestatecoach.com/funding   90-Day Jump Start: www.smartrealestatecoach.com/jump   Nat Processing Website: www.natprocessing.com   Request a free copy of our best-selling book, Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime, at absolutely no charge: WickedSmartBooks.com   Join us at the Wicked Smart Summit in March and get 50% off your ticket now! 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Join Dr. Holmes and Meredith Sinclair of Life Behavior Consulting as they discuss the need for support and adaptive skills for adolescents and young adults on the spectrum. Life does not end when school ends; however, supports often do. Social skills are needed for job interviews and career development. Meredith and Life Behavior Consulting focus on these skills.It is located in Atlanta, GA, but is now available over Zoom outside of GA. You can find out more at https://lifebehaviorconsulting.com/About Meredith Sinclair:Meredith Sinclair is the Executive Director/Founder of LIFE Behavior Consulting. Meredith holds a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from Georgia State University and a Bachelor's Degree in Psychology from Pennsylvania State University. She is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor and a Certified PEERS (Program for the Enrichment and Education of Relational Skills) Provider. Meredith specializes in Behavior Consulting, Executive Functioning, Social Skills, and Career Development training. She has served a range of neurodiverse clients with a variety of cognitive verbal levels and support needs. She has had the pleasure of working with young adults, their families, and caregivers to teach them skills and provide tools that help them work toward their goals. Meredith built LIFE Behavior Consulting with the goal of empowering individuals through coaching, teaching, and support to gain tools that will improve their access to social opportunities, relationships, and interdependence in their home, community, school, and vocational settings. She strives to energize her clients and help them realize their inner strengths.

Mentor Moments Season Three Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. Part two with Katie and Thomas! This episode we feature Katie and Thomas Wolff! Listen to how Katie and Thomas live a balanced life as married counselors! Welcome to Mentor Moments, the podcast where distinctive lives shape the individuals we become. Join us for engaging counseling conversations that delve deep into personal journeys while focusing on pressing professional issues. In this season of Mentor Moments, we're honored to feature remarkable individuals who not only introduce you to the world of rehabilitation counseling but also tackle current topics and issues that matter. Each episode invites you into the minds of our guests as they share their unique perspectives. Katie Wolff, MA, LPC is a Senior Behavioral Health Care Manager/Succession Planner with Magellan Health where she helps members connect with their Employee Assistance Program and behavioral health benefits. She also collaborates with facilities to authorize higher levels of care and provides crisis support to members. She earned her Bachelor of Science in Rehabilitation Services with a psychiatric emphasis and her Master of Arts in Rehabilitation Counseling in the marriage and family track from Maryville University of St. Louis. Her experience includes working in local non-profit community mental health agencies and private treatment programs, including St. Patrick Center, Youth In Need, MERS Goodwill, Kids In The Middle, and Alsana. While her private practice counseling work is on pause, Katie also owns Grounded Oak Counseling LLC where she works with youth, adults, and families. Katie is passionate about working with people navigating life's many transitions, including death, relationships, incarceration, school and peer dynamics, and family changes. The most rewarding part of her work is seeing and hearing relief for people when they get the support and tools they need and deserve. Thomas Wolff, MA, LPC is a Clinical Services Supervisor with BJC Behavioral Health where he helps manage 988 mobile crisis staff, Community Behavioral Health Liaisons, and Youth Behavioral Health Liaisons. Thomas is also embedded with St. Louis County Police Department where he is a member of the Crisis Intervention Team and Crisis Negotiation Team. He helps the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit at the St. Louis Field Office with threat analysis and threat management for the Eastern Region of Missouri. He earned a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and a Bachelor of Arts in Sociology from the University of Missouri-St. Louis and his Master of Arts in Rehabilitation Counseling from Maryville University. His experience includes working in local non-profit community mental health agencies such as MERS Goodwill in the areas of Job Development and Veterans Services. He has also worked in higher education at Maryville University as the Veterans Services Coordinator where he would assist both active duty and Veteran students to best utilize their military benefits. Thomas owns Trailhead Wellness LLC where he works with first responders, military personnel, adults, and families, however, his private practice work is on pause. Thomas is extremely passionate about working in crisis within the community and assisting law enforcement. Follow us at: Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠mentor.momentsMRA@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: @mentor.moments Website: https://www.mraeasternchapter.com/maryvillerc

Mentor Moments Season Three Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. This episode we feature Katie and Thomas Wolff! Listen to how Katie and Thomas live a balanced life as married counselors! Welcome to Mentor Moments, the podcast where distinctive lives shape the individuals we become. Join us for engaging counseling conversations that delve deep into personal journeys while focusing on pressing professional issues. In this season of Mentor Moments, we're honored to feature remarkable individuals who not only introduce you to the world of rehabilitation counseling but also tackle current topics and issues that matter. Each episode invites you into the minds of our guests as they share their unique perspectives. Katie Wolff, MA, LPC is a Senior Behavioral Health Care Manager/Succession Planner with Magellan Health where she helps members connect with their Employee Assistance Program and behavioral health benefits. She also collaborates with facilities to authorize higher levels of care and provides crisis support to members. She earned her Bachelor of Science in Rehabilitation Services with a psychiatric emphasis and her Master of Arts in Rehabilitation Counseling in the marriage and family track from Maryville University of St. Louis. Her experience includes working in local non-profit community mental health agencies and private treatment programs, including St. Patrick Center, Youth In Need, MERS Goodwill, Kids In The Middle, and Alsana. While her private practice counseling work is on pause, Katie also owns Grounded Oak Counseling LLC where she works with youth, adults, and families. Katie is passionate about working with people navigating life's many transitions, including death, relationships, incarceration, school and peer dynamics, and family changes. The most rewarding part of her work is seeing and hearing relief for people when they get the support and tools they need and deserve. Thomas Wolff, MA, LPC is a Clinical Services Supervisor with BJC Behavioral Health where he helps manage 988 mobile crisis staff, Community Behavioral Health Liaisons, and Youth Behavioral Health Liaisons. Thomas is also embedded with St. Louis County Police Department where he is a member of the Crisis Intervention Team and Crisis Negotiation Team. He helps the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit at the St. Louis Field Office with threat analysis and threat management for the Eastern Region of Missouri. He earned a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and a Bachelor of Arts in Sociology from the University of Missouri-St. Louis and his Master of Arts in Rehabilitation Counseling from Maryville University. His experience includes working in local non-profit community mental health agencies such as MERS Goodwill in the areas of Job Development and Veterans Services. He has also worked in higher education at Maryville University as the Veterans Services Coordinator where he would assist both active duty and Veteran students to best utilize their military benefits. Thomas owns Trailhead Wellness LLC where he works with first responders, military personnel, adults, and families, however, his private practice work is on pause. Thomas is extremely passionate about working in crisis within the community and assisting law enforcement. Follow us at: Email: ⁠⁠⁠mentor.momentsMRA@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: @mentor.moments Website: https://www.mraeasternchapter.com/maryvillerc

Heather Beahan is a Master of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling, and a Functional Nutrition Health Coach. She is founder of Heather's Healing Kitchen and works at Patchogue Wellness Center in New York. * In Episode 94 we discuss the psychological and emotional components of nutrition, how trauma effects our eating patterns, the harms of diet culture, mindfulness practices for healing our mind-body and the pitfalls of the conventional medical system. * Learn more about Heather Beahan and Heather's Healing Kitchen in Patchogue, New York: https://heatherhealswithfood.com/ * Learn more about Bogdan Makartchuk, ND and The Herbal Remedy in Sayville, New York: https://www.nyherbalremedy.com * Herbal Hour: Natural Health Podcast streams on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and your favorite podcast player. Please support the natural health community by subscribing and sharing your favorite episodes! * Herbal Hour: Natural Health Podcast Links: Podcast Home - Spotify: Click to listen on Spotify - Apple Podcasts: Listen on your Mac or iPhone! *

Join Dr. Stephanie Holmes and Meredith as they talk about young adults on the Autism Spectrum and how to provide support! Life does not end when school ends, however supports often do. Social skills are needed for job interviews and career development. Meredith and Life Behavior Consulting focus on these skills. Located in Atlanta, GA but now available over Zoom outside of GA, you can find out more at www.lifebehaviorconsulting.com.Meredith Sinclair is the Executive Director/Founder of LIFE Behavior Consulting. Meredith holds a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from Georgia State University and a Bachelor's Degree in Psychology from Pennsylvania State University. She is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor and a Certified PEERS (Program for the Enrichment and Education of Relational Skills) Provider. Meredith specializes in Behavior Consulting, Executive Functioning, Social Skills and Career Development training. She has served a range of neurodiverse clients, with a variety of cognitive, verbal levels and support needs. She has had the pleasure of working with young adults, their families and caregivers to teach them skills and provide tools that help to work toward their goals. Meredith built LIFE Behavior Consulting with the goal to empower individuals through coaching, teaching and support to gain tools that will improve their access to social opportunities, relationships, and interdependence in their home, community, school, and vocational settings. She strives to energize her clients and help them realize their inner strengths.

See JL Cauvin and I co Headlining City Winery In Pittsburgh PA on Oct 11 Stand Up is a daily podcast. I book,host,edit, post and promote new episodes with brilliant guests every day. Please subscribe now for as little as 5$ and gai Today's Guest: Candida Maurer, PhD, licensed psychologist, has completed her certification in Psychedelic Therapy and Research through the California Institute of Integral Studies. Psychedelics are being used by millions of people to awaken from ordinary consciousness. Unfortunately, the extraordinary experience of these medicines is often not integrated into our everyday lives, and the profound understanding that occurs fades away. It is through various integration practices that the true benefit of these medicines can be activated. “Psychedelic awakening has long been an interest of mine which was sparked by experiences in my 20's. These were life-changing touchstones for the possibility of expanded consciousness, and it was these experiences which led me to pursue my doctorate in psychology. These experiences also inspired me to pursue continuing education in alternative medicine. My foundational belief is that increasing our level of awareness allows us to come to a greater sense of wholeness.” Psychedelics, or entheogens (a term used to describe substances which allow us to find the God within), have been used for millennia to allow people to have direct contact with other states of reality. A variety of entheogens are being used by millions of people to explore the vast realms of extraordinary experiences that allow us to heal ourselves. The entheogens that became popular in the 1960's inspired millions to seek greater awareness through psychedelics and other “spiritual technologies” such as meditation, yoga, dreamwork, and depth psychology. Now, psychedelic medicines are being seriously studied for relief of mental illnesses such as depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, addictions, anxiety, serious illness, and end-of-life issues. The research that is being conducted around the country has been extraordinarily promising. Since psychedelics are still illegal, many people are ingesting these substances on their own or in group settings that may or may not support real psychological or spiritual transformation. It is only through careful intention setting, guidance, and integration that the full value of psychedelic experiences can be accessed. The intention for my practice is to create a space for the soul to flourish. Since my certification in psychedelic medicine, I am now offering services for those who have used entheogens and haven't been able to fully integrate their experiences. It is my hope that these substances will soon be legalized for the huge numbers of people who are suffering, for it will revolutionize the treatment of mental illness and allow an expansion of consciousness that is badly needed in our troubled world. “When we ignore the body and the spirit in psychology, we ignore the inherent wholeness of the person. True healing takes place when one's wholeness is revealed to them through integration of the mind, body, and spirit.” Licensed Psychologist, Ph.D. Rehabilitation Counseling, 1979 Counseling Psychology, 1991 Co-founder Eastwind Healing Center, 1996-2022 Asian bodywork therapist, 1996-2013 Certified Psychedelic Therapy and Research practitioner, 2019 Reiki Master, Healing Touch practitioner, Meditation teacher, Hypnotherapy, Dreamwork, Energy Medicine.   Pete on Tik Tok Pete on YouTube Pete on Twitter Pete On Instagram Pete Personal FB page Stand Up with Pete FB page All things Jon Carroll  Follow and Support Pete Coe  

Maya Benning-Codina is currently a Certified Sex Addiction Therapy – Candidate and specializes in supporting women struggling with relational challenges. Maya also has experience and success in helping her clients grow in awareness of themselves and their needs so they can communicate that with their partner to foster growth in intimacy in their relationships. In addition to trauma and parts work, Maya utilizes cognitive behavior therapy, mindfulness-based stress reduction techniques, gestalt, and narrative therapy. Maya has extensive career counseling experience that she utilizes to help clients that may feel stuck in their career, are struggling with their work, or are looking to switch the path that they are on. Maya is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC) and she has worked with veterans, individuals with severe psychopathology, and people with disabilities. She holds a Masters Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from Northeastern Illinois University and a Bachelor's Degree in Psychology from the University of South Florida. She is a native English speaker and speaks advanced German (although not a native speaker). Her favorite psychologists are Carl Jung, because of his work and focus on individuation, dream analysis, personal archetypes and whole person therapy and Fritz Perls, as the father of Gestalt Therapy, which focuses on one's conscious observer and inner awareness to tap into the whole self not only symptoms. She is a strong advocate for the promise of hope and everyone's ability to make positive and sustainable life changes. She offers an empathetic, genuine, and compassionate therapeutic relationship to help foster trust and promote growth that her clients truly feel. Maya provides services via Telehealth as well as in person in our Wheaton office and can be contacted via her email: maya@willowclinical.com https://www.willowclinicalservices.com/index.php  

Best friend to the show, Dr. Candice Creasman, discusses the "fawn" trauma response and how it is different from the other trauma responses of fight, flight, and freeze. Candice Creasman Mowrey, PhD is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor Supervisor with a Masters in Rehabilitation Counseling and Psychology and a Doctorate in Counseling and Counselor Education. She has been in practice for 15 years working with survivors of domestic violence and sexual trauma, individuals with addictions, chronic pain, mood and personality disorders, and severe mental illness. She provides consultation and clinical supervision for individuals and small groups in addition to large scale speaking engagements. Her emphasis is intersectional emotion regulation and mindfulness. She is Health At Every Size-aligned, and works to incorporate body-acceptance and self-compassion into her work with clients and groups. For more information about Dr. Creasman please visit her website HERE. Or visit her Facebook and Instagram pages!  

As a young child, Kyle Campbell was diagnosed with an inoperable brain stem tumor, which caused symptoms from difficulty speaking and swallowing to nausea and general ill health. While radiation therapy in his teens alleviated some of Kyle's symptoms, effects of the tumor (and side effects of his treatments) persist to this day. Now a husband, father of three, and author, Kyle is living a full, meaningful life. Through his difficulties, Kyle has developed a deep trust in God and has learned to live on purpose with faith, focus, and flexibility.Get your copy of Kyle's book: Beyond Belief: How Living with a Brain Stem Tumor Brought Faith and Purpose to LifeKyle Campbell is a Christian, a preacher, a poet, a philosopher, a professor, and an advocate… but some of his favorite identities are husband and father. He has a BA in Philosophy from Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo, and an MA in Rehabilitation Counseling from California State University, Fresno. Kyle currently holds a position serving students in higher education. KEY QUESTIONS:Have you ever asked, “Why me?!”?How do you define your identity?How can you find purpose and hope when suffering seems endless?KEY SCRIPTURES:“I have seen the burden God has laid on the human race. He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end.” -Ecclesiastes 3:10–11“As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, ‘Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?' ‘Neither this man nor his parents sinned,' said Jesus, ‘but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.'” John 9:1–5 Connect with Kyle on his website and LinkedIn. Watch his new video. ----Find more encouragement on Joni Eareckson Tada's Sharing Hope podcast  and daily devotional.Follow Joni and Friends on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube.Your support  makes this podcast possible!Joni and Friends envisions a world where every person with a disability finds hope, dignity, and their place in the body of Christ. Founded by  Joni Eareckson Tada, we provide Christ-centered care through  Joni's House, Wheels for the World, and Retreats and Getaways, and offer disability ministry training.

YOU'RE ON THE SPOT FEATURING THE HULA EMPRESS LAUREN DANIELLE   Lauren Danielle is a Moncks Corner, SC Native, and is a graduate of SC State University with a B.S. in Psychology and M.A. in Rehabilitation Counseling.  She owns SOulDIVINE Wellness & Creations, LLC, a mobile holistic brand based in Atlanta, GA.  SOulDIVINE specializes in creating in-person and virtual wellness sessions to improve overall well-being. Lauren Danielle's most requested service is called Hula Healing Fitness. This fun, innovative, and effective wellness service involves mind-body-soul fitness using a hula hoop. In 2021, she launched a mental health and wellness campaign that has positively impacted over 1500 people nationwide by lowering stress and anxiety. Lauren Danielle is also a professional hula hoop dancer affectionately called The Hula Empress. She has been featured in major brands such as VH1, The SisAundra Show, The Michael Colyar Morning Show, AJC NEWS, and more. The mission of SOulDIVINE is to help people to relax. connect. elevate into the best version of themselves.  

Welcome to No Shame On U's 38th Podcast with Certified Meditation and Yoga Teacher, and Health Mentor, Mara Zimmerman! Mara is a Certified Meditation and Yoga Teacher and Health Mentor. She has a degree in Rehabilitation Counseling and Psychology. She offers Mind-Body Centered Therapy, Holistic Counseling, and Health and Spiritual Guidance, with Mindfulness as the foundation. She has continued her studies in Eastern Philosophy, Homeopathy, and the Healing Arts. With a focus on Self-care and Well-being, Mara teaches to all ages, stages and abilities. She has learned that each person is unique and should be true to their own needs.

Mentor Moments Season Two Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. Our unique stories shape our lives and the individuals we become. This season Mentor Moments will feature individuals sharing their story moments. Each episode will illustrate how seemingly little life moments ultimately shaped our careers in ways that were unpredictable and personally fulfilling. This episode we feature Crystal Weaver! Crystal Weaver is a Board-Certified Music Therapist, a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor, and a Licensed Professional Counselor in the State of Missouri. She graduated cum laude with a Bachelor's in Music Therapy in 2004 and graduated with a Master's in Rehabilitation Counseling in 2010 from Maryville University. In 2019, Ms. Weaver obtained an additional graduate degree, a Master's in Health Administration, from Saint Louis University. In 2004, Crystal Weaver completed a National Roster Music Therapy Internship at Hospice of Palm Beach County in West Palm Beach, Florida. Later that same year, she accepted a full-time music therapy position at BJC Hospice in Saint Louis, Missouri. In 2011, Crystal Weaver accepted a music therapy position at the Saint Louis University Cancer Center (SLUCare Physician Group). In 2019, Crystal Weaver was promoted to Manager of Patient Support Services at the Saint Louis University Cancer Center. In this position, Ms. Weaver was responsible for managing the accreditation processes through the Commission on Cancer (American College of Surgeons) and for supervising music therapy, social work, rehabilitation counseling, and nutritional services staff. As the new Director of Music Therapy at Maryville University, Crystal Weaver's focus is to continue to develop a cutting-edge music therapy program that provides evidence-based educational opportunities for students to achieve ongoing success and advancement in the evolving music therapy and healthcare landscapes. Crystal Weaver is committed to providing high-quality experiences for students, so they not only develop into effective music therapy professionals but also leaders in the healthcare community. Missouri Rehabilitation Association Eastern Chapter Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Youtube

Mentor Moments Season Two Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. Our unique stories shape our lives and the individuals we become. This season Mentor Moments will feature individuals sharing their story moments. Each episode will illustrate how seemingly little life moments ultimately shaped our careers in ways that were unpredictable and personally fulfilling. This episode we feature Maya Harris! Maya J. Harris is a certified rehabilitation counselor. A 2015 graduate of Maryville University, where she received her Master of Rehabilitation Counseling. Maya is the owner and founder of MJ's Coaching Corner, LLC. Her mission is to assist individuals of all abilities with the planning, coaching and transitioning of meeting life goals; while building the tools of life skill development. Maya is an adjunct instructor at UMSL where she teaches a vocational curriculum she designed, to students in the SUCCEED program. Maya also provides professional development to young scholars of a home school coop, Sovereign University. It's Maya's passion to promote empowerment and independence for individuals to reach their greatest potential. https://mjscoachingcorner.wixsite.com/mjcc https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070062908412&mibextid=ZbWKwL Missouri Rehabilitation Association Eastern Chapter Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Youtube MRA Eastern Chapter Blog

Before the 2020-21 pandemic, the stigmas around mental health were alive and well. As the world was becoming increasingly aware of the realities of mental health, it was still easier to put those who suffered into neat categories that could be explained away. As the global community adjusts to life post-pandemic, we find that the truth about mental health issues is that anyone can suffer from them. Add to it the stress and anxiety brought on when the world was paused for a year, and we see a new level of “woke.” But now that our eyes are open, what do we do? Reketta Brown, a North Carolina Licensed Professional Counselor with over twenty years of experience and her new initiative, is here to help answer that question. Thrive Foundation is a Guilford County-based 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that educates children, families, and the community on the importance of mental health awareness. This next level in servicing our communities wasn't something that just happened. “I've been sitting on this nonprofit for about three years,” Reketta explained. “Where Wrights Care Services focuses on treatment and care for individual clients and their families, the Thrive Foundation focuses on training professionals in the community, the schools, and different organizations on the importance of mental health awareness.” Reketta is the founding director of Wrights Care Services. “Wrights Care Services is a privately-owned, full-service behavioral healthcare agency. We are committed to providing clients with a personalized approach to behavioral health and substance abuse services.” As a mental health care provider, Reketta says that she always knew that she would be in the service of helping others. “I grew up in the church as a PK (pastor's kid),” Reketta explains. “Watching my parents serve in the church and the community inspired me. I knew that when I grew up, I would be in a profession that focused on helping others.” A compassionate heart and empathetic spirit are essential when helping people with mental health issues. Ignited with the understanding that serving others was her destiny, Reketta set her sights on nursing. After testing the waters as a C.N.A., she felt like her calling was taking her in a different direction. Reketta attended Winston-Salem State University. Reketta continued to push forward by attending North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University and receiving her Master of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling. Her first business was a joint venture between her and two friends she met while earning her master's degree. Behavioral Health & Wellness Care Services was launched in 2006. Then in 2009, Reketta and a partner started Wright's Care Services. For the last thirteen years, Wright's Care Services clinicians have been servicing North Carolina, the Triad, and surrounding areas in emotional restoration and recovery. But Reketta saw that there was more to be done. “In this post-pandemic climate, we see more and more people experiencing mental health issues or symptoms exacerbated by the stresses of pandemic life. This exposed gaps in care and the availability of information,” Reketta explained. “As we worked with our clients, we received questions from healthcare providers, parents of students, and leaders of professional and religious organizations. A lot of these questions can't be answered in counseling. This was an opportunity for education and awareness.” From this understanding, the Thrive Foundation was born. The Thrive Foundation focuses on training and empowering patients and their families.  “At the Thrive Foundation, we foster hope and resiliency in the communities we serve. This is done by providing programs and resources that help empower, educate, and evolve communities. Our trained team of mental health advocates is committed to building emotionally healthy communities.” Moving forward, Reketta's goal for Thrive Foundation is to continue laying the groundwork and building relationships between the public and mental health professionals. To learn more about The Thrive Foundation, please visit their website at www.thrive-wellness.org You may also follow The Thrive Foundation on Facebook by putting Thrive Foundation in your search box. To learn more about Wrights Care Services, please visit their website at www.wrightscareservices.com  You may also follow them on Facebook by putting Wrights Care Services in your search box. To learn more about Huami Magazine, you may follow us on Facebook and Instagram by putting Huami Magazine in your search box.  You may also visit our website at www.huamimagazine.com You may follow This Is Who I Am Podcast on Facebook and Instagram by putting This Is Who I Am in your search box. To be a part of this podcast or to advertise in Huami Magazine, please send a detailed email to huamimagazine@gmail.com You may also contact us directly at 336-340-7844    

Mentor Moments Season Two Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. Our unique stories shape our lives and the individuals we become. This season Mentor Moments will feature individuals sharing their story moments. Each episode will illustrate how seemingly little life moments ultimately shaped our careers in ways that were unpredictable and personally fulfilling. This episode we feature Jess Cox! Jess Cox is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor and Provisionally Licensed Professional Counselor, with a master's degree in Rehabilitation Counseling and a bachelor's in Urban Ministry. Jess possesses twenty years' experience working within the homeless service industry, currently serving at DOORWAYS as the Director of Behavioral Health. In her role at DOORWAYS she has built a new, successful behavioral health program from the ground up, which offers both individual and group psychotherapy services. Throughout Jess' career, she has assisted hundreds of clients with obtaining housing, employment, and mental wellness. Jess has managed high-performing teams with an emphasis on staff development, grant compliance, outcome achievement, and has overseen budgets upwards of one million dollars. With less than 150 hours left of clinical supervision to complete, Jess is excitedly moving towards her goal of becoming a Licensed Professional Counselor. Doorways Link: https://doorwayshousing.org/ St. Louis City Continuum of Care Link: https://cocstl.org/ Missouri Rehabilitation Association Eastern Chapter Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Youtube MRA Eastern Chapter Blog

Mentor Moments Season Two Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. Our unique stories shape our lives and the individuals we become. This season Mentor Moments will feature individuals sharing their story moments. Each episode will illustrate how seemingly little life moments ultimately shaped our careers in ways that were unpredictable and personally fulfilling. This episode we feature Casey Anderson! Casey graduated from Maryville University's Rehabilitation Counseling program in 2017 and started my career as crisis intervention advocate at YWCA St. Louis, offering support to individuals who experienced emotional, physical and sexual abuse. I then was promoted to the Program Supervisor of Crisis Intervention where I continued developing professionally; planning and facilitating community trainings, supporting a team of staff and volunteers and developing partnerships. I left YWCA in March 2020, joining VR as a Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor in the St. Charles office. I have found that my advocacy skills are valued here in my position. I have been on various committees and I am the designated VRC for the Work Based Learning program that coordinates and partners with Workforce Development, a CRP, and local school districts. I love making connections with others and watching folks discover confidence and independence by achieving their employment goals. I look forward to making a difference in people's lives through our mission and vision here with the MRAEC. Missouri Rehabilitation Association Eastern Chapter Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Youtube MRA Eastern Chapter Blog

At the age of five years old, Kyle Campbell was diagnosed with an inoperable tumor on his brain stem. While there were issues he had to face including some motor and speaking issues, Kyle attended public school where he continued to progress and grow. At the age of 14, Kyle undertook radiation treatments that improved his overall life circumstances.   Kyle went on to receive his Bachelor's degree and later his Master's degree in Rehabilitation Counseling. Today he works at a community college in Visalia CA as both a Support Services Coordinator and Part-time Instructor in the Access & Ability Center. His philosophy of life is extremely positive and forward-looking.   I believe you will find this week's episode most inspirational and well worth hearing. Kyle shows that we all can be unstoppable if we choose to move forward in our lives and not allow obstacles to hold us back.     About the Guest: Diagnosed with an inoperable brain stem tumor at age 5, Kyle's life has been full of twists and turns. Even after radiation therapy and lots of doctor visits, he still experiences the effects of his brain stem tumor daily. Now, thirty years after diagnosis and far from the ‘failure to thrive' he had once been described as in his medical reports, Kyle has realized how precious life really is, how we cannot do it on our own, and how important it is to live on purpose with Faith, Focus, & Flexibility.   Kyle Campbell is a Christian, a preacher, a poet, a philosopher, a professor, a disability advocate, and more, but some of his favorite identities are husband and father. Born and raised in the Central Valley of California, Kyle lives in Visalia, CA, with his wonderful wife, Lori, a 2-year-old boy, a 4-year-old boy, and one more boy due in January!   Professionally, Kyle has been working at a community college for seven years, as both a Support Services Coordinator and Part-time Instructor in the Access & Ability Center. In this role, Kyle helps students with and without disabilities navigate their educational journey by learning what accommodations, strategies, and supports will help lead to success in college. He also created and teaches a course on Personal Development and Social Skills.   Kyle has earned a Bachelor's degree in Philosophy from Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo, as well as a Master's degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from California State University, Fresno. He has been the recipient of multiple awards and scholarships, and is nationally recognized as a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor. He has been an editorial assistant, the co-author of a published journal article and he is excited to share the lessons, perspectives, and active faith that come from living with a brain stem tumor. Kyle talks about this, and more, in his upcoming book, Beyond Belief:  How Living with a Brain Stem Tumor Brought Faith and Purpose to Life.   Ways to connect with Kyle: Kyle's Website Link:  www.KyleBeyondBelief.com Kyle's LinkedIn Profile:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-campbell-29865a7a/      About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.     Transcription Notes Michael Hingson  00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson  01:20 Well, hi there, wherever you happen to be. This is Mike Hingson, and I am hosting once again, unstoppable mindset where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet today we get to speak with Kyle Campbell. And what an amazing story for a lot of reasons. You know, one of the things that I've said many times during our podcast episodes is that one of the main goals I have is for everyone who listens to this to see that they can be more unstoppable than they think they can. And you know, it's not always about making some sort of a specific concerted effort to be unstoppable. But it's more an issue of just choosing how you live your life and choosing not to let things hold you back. Kyle was diagnosed with an inoperable brainstem tumor at the age of five. He was even described in his records is failing to thrive. But today now at some 35 or 36 years old, he works at a community college. He's been a preacher. He has been a guest speaker at a variety of places. He is writing a book, and he is by any definition thriving, but for the purposes of our podcast. We're just going to say that Kyle is unstoppable. So Kyle, welcome to unstoppable mindset.   Kyle Campbell  02:45 Or thank him Michael, I appreciate that I'm never mind described as unstoppable. So thinking that made me smile. It's a pleasure to be here with you. And I am happy to be able to chat with you have it?   Michael Hingson  03:02 Well, maybe they'll put that in your medical records now you're unstoppable.   Kyle Campbell  03:08 Sounds good to me.   Michael Hingson  03:10 Well, tell us a little bit about your your life story growing up and how it was discovered that you had an inoperable brain tumor. why that happened? If you're willing to talk a little bit about your early life history? Let's let's hear it.   Kyle Campbell  03:23 Of course, yeah, we'd love to share. So when I was a little boy about, or also, I hadn't just kind of some strange things that were not a call. And my my voice I had a Hypo natality. And when they when they mature, and lots of the young boys have a high voice, which is no more at that age. But my voice seemed a little extra nasally and not to be changing. So my mom, my mom was keeping an eye on that. And curious about that. And there were a few other symptoms as well. But it wasn't long of the speech, my mind. So my mom took me to a doctor and the doctor says, well, he's just, you know, taking more time to venture and given time to, to go, you know, and see what happens. And my mom wasn't convinced about that. She thought, Oh, I think there might be something else going on. So, uh, she took me to a different doctor who did an assessment with me and he kind of saw a few more things and he got it wrong. My mom made me cry oshin get an MRI when they take pictures of the ends tend to be a Barney just to make sure everything is okay with his brain and development. And then yeah, they found their breaks and they found a tumor on my brainstem. And so the the average, don't brainstem is kind of a little bit bigger than the size of your thumb maybe eight centimeters long. And you know, I was a kid, so I'm sure mine was more than that. And, you know, you think about your brain connects to your spine via the brainstem. And so a whole bunch of, you know, nerves, goes through that brainstem, and connect to your spine to your body. And basic, rife functions are controlled in the brainstem, things like breathing, swallowing, walking, talking gene. Even more nuanced things like you know, I can read pressure and heart rate and things like that. It knows that lot going on in there. And I had a I'm going to move I, you know, a little marble type thing in mind. And there was a question of, Okay, do we go down and biopsy it, and try and poke around and get out. And the neurosurgeon that I want to say, you know, about five, five years ago, we wouldn't have Rockledge on this, by now the current trend is to play it safe. Because if we go in there and operate, we might touch things and move things, that would not be good, you might cause more damage, then, you know, then then we want, so we just kind of watched the tumor. And I had MRIs every, every month, every few months to see what was happening. And if it was quickly and aggressively growing, we would have had to do something right away. Amazingly, mine was not doing that it was growing a little bit but it was slow it was benign is what they would say or that it was acting like a benign tumor. I can't say for sure what it is because we haven't biopsy it yet. But, but it's it's there. And you know, it caused a whole bunch of symptoms. When I was a kid. I would constantly mistake. Nauseous made me dizzy, fatigued, I'm strong enough I'm gonna have coughing fits. I remember micron going to bed at night. When I'm sitting there thinking, thinking Hmm, I wonder how sick I'm gonna be in the morning tomorrow. And you know, and not not a fun thought to have no kid. But, but yeah, that's kind of wonder was like, as a as a little kid. And yeah, I just have so much to say about it, that it's coming to mind. I wasn't ever afraid of it. And you know, I my parents took me to dog goods and we trusted Oregon doctors with whatever they recommended that would you know, men sense. So we trusted and then those people to provide care and and they did it. And I'm here today. So I learned you ation you go. Yeah, I'm here.   Michael Hingson  09:20 Let me ask you this. So you talked about your voice being nasally. And clearly your voice does sound a little bit different than than the voices of a lot of people. Why is that? Is that because of the tumor today?   Kyle Campbell  09:32 Yeah. So essentially what that tumor does is very slightly paralyzed is my left side. So in my facial muscles, you might see it. My eye and my lamp are a little bit droopy, not too much. But on the inside, with still connect to the mouth. There is the larynx And then above that, where the mouth connects to the air passage to the nose, the nasal cavities, the clinics, and the way that they're designed is to close when we're not talking, and then to open when we talk, right, so open when we talk so we can put jacquela voice, and then they close when we're not talking. So we have, you know, Ah, man, I can't garden backward. They open when we're not talking to our nose. Right? Close when you're talking. Yeah, so we have the breath to project and talk and speak out, you know, and more my mom, one of my sides, my left side and didn't move any dirt around. Now next are the fairings. So I constantly have any open passageway for my throat to my nose. So when I would speak, I'm gonna get air coming out my nose, God, stop. And when and I spent years in speech therapy, and school, and pretty much the only thing we can do is, have me speak louder. Try to help them and help. My main net difference. I remember I was 17. And I was referred to a specialized EMT, you don't know you still have doctor, someone who specialized in like facial, plastic and reconstructive surgery. And he lifted up, he put a device in the back of my throat and lift it up. And how did he say, ah, and my voice changed from nasally sound I need used to, to, to me to run a shutdown, like when houses was closed. And I thought, wow, I can I'm wanting to have that voice. That's, that's me. That's my voice. And so I had surgery when I was 18. To help close that pipe, I guess my throat and so my voice is a lot more intelligible now. But yeah, so and still Initium ran my estimate,   Michael Hingson  12:45 but clearly, you're very understandable. And and so on. So when did they start doing radiation?   Kyle Campbell  12:51 So, um, they want and the doctor is recommending that we wait until after puberty for me. So if I hadn't had it radiation before, puberty was hormone distribution that might have been thrown off. And I might have had some minor issues coming on. So we wait then until after people read in our for me, I gotten to be about about 14. So it's about 2001. And the tumor was slightly growing. And the doctor my mom, my neurosurgeon said, Okay, it's, it's gone big enough, we need to do something. hormones have mostly gone, you know, kicked in. So yeah, that's when I had it.   Michael Hingson  13:49 So what did the radiation end up doing for you?   Kyle Campbell  13:56 So the way that I like to think of it, you know, as you can is that they were shooting lasers through my head. And basically, they were burned, you know, and they were targeting that tumor to damage it. And then anemia it is shrunk the tumor by about half which is huge. And so in the majority of my symptoms went away. I was no longer nauseous, daily. I was no longer dizzy. I didn't have any more altitude sickness. I was able to gain weight and gain muscle mass which was a struggle for me when I was younger and beyond. And my my coordination and balance are still about the same. There's still you know, I'm not in the best shape. But I received my Stanley symptoms of just not feeling good. And they went away. And I don't have to think much anymore, which is nice.   Michael Hingson  15:14 So what was it like as a kid and interacting with other kids and so on and the school and all that. Were growing up through high school with all of this going on, and then the radiation in the middle and so on.   Kyle Campbell  15:28 You know, in an elementary school I, I mentioned, at the height of my sickness, I'd be you know, I remember a few times I threw up in class in the trash, Jen, you know, I can do anything else. Or I remember having to leave step outside of that, because I had an uncontrollable coughing fit. And I didn't want to interrupt the class too much. I didn't want all my friends staring at me, like, Is he okay? And I was weak. I was physically very small head. They called me skinny bones. Because I had trouble building muscle. Because my lap and Heartway and this, you know, on the whole thing. And, and oh, yeah, so my, my mom was worrying about me in the fifth or sixth grade, she thought he is a very small kid, maybe he's being bullied or something. So my mom asked the young Judy person is okay, like, is he mean boggling by anyone? And then your duty postings for my mom. He's actually friends with the Baris. And I didn't realize him, but I was just being kind to everyone. And I thought these kids were gone. And I was crying to them. So I was one of them, you know, even though I wasn't really picked on kids, and they weren't either. They were just as short rambunctious. Which, of course, I am not. But   Michael Hingson  17:27 but you got along, obviously, and they didn't tell you, I gather.   Kyle Campbell  17:31 Yeah. And, you know, I was just being kind and calling out their value. I guess I didn't have there was words to say. But, but yeah, lineation, in junior high. And in high school, most of my symptoms were gone at this point. Except for, you know, my balance and my speech. By me, we practiced those and, you know, you did the best you can make the most of what you have been grateful to be every day and, and that attitude has stuck with me stuck with my family. And it makes a big difference in our every day interactions.   Michael Hingson  18:24 Well, and I would just say, that's as much a good a definition of unstoppable as one could find you didn't let any of that get in your way. Did you get bullied in high school at all? No. So there you go. Because you related to people, and you clearly had a demonstrable way about you that people didn't bully you, they they accepted you. And, you know, I think a lot of times, that's the best thing that we can do is to try to avoid any of the kinds of things by relating to people and you certainly did that.   Kyle Campbell  19:05 Certainly, yeah. Learning to people is is huge, being kind here. I worked in a community in college, nowadays, and I teach a class that I had the opportunity to kind of create, and it's all about connection and the value of knowing how to invite people in to connection and how to maintain that connection. I'm not how to win arguments. Because winning doesn't build connection by how to connect together and grow together on on a journey of you know, mutual value as well. Apr.   Michael Hingson  20:01 Well, you, you certainly have set a good strong example, which is as good as it could be. And I'm assuming that that all went on through college and you you did pretty well. And you did thrive.   Kyle Campbell  20:17 I did I then, meanwhile, I got my bachelor's degree in philosophy went to Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo and got my master's degree and rehabilitation counseling from Fresno State. And it's been it's been great. And so I, I have the privilege to work in college. And it's really exciting to me to come and work in a place where everyday people come to run something new to build something to improve themselves, their understanding of the world around us and how they fit into our world. And how many people relate with each other.   Michael Hingson  21:12 will tell me, you in your in your life journey you started with definitely the whole issue of dealing with perseverance. Yeah, and you've developed a good life philosophy. How have you progressed? Or how did you progress from philosophy to faith to being involved in rehabilitation and rehabilitation counseling, and how do those all interconnect?   Kyle Campbell  21:39 The ABS has moved me into Kleenex even though it seems like they might not at all. So I grew up in church and having faith as a Christian, as a kin and our family. And when I moved to college, I had one week of studying philosophy of Plato's Allegory of the Cave, in high school, and I thought, hey, that's really fun. I'm going to be a pornography major. And I went to Charles Harley, and I studied philosophy. And I'm embarrassed to admit, in my philosophy, years in college, I thought I knew everything I thought I knew better than other people. I was really into analysis and logic, and rationale, rationality, I guess, you know, if something made sense, I'm going forward. If it didn't make sense, I it was a waste of my time. And things like Emotion. Emotion didn't make sense. I couldn't think about it logically. So I thought I'd knock the window and add certain aspects of faith. I couldn't improve them, so I wouldn't deal with them. I will say I remained a Christian the whole time. I believed in God because then I selflessly God make sense to me and I and our logical fashion. I know there are arguments against God's existence. And after going over them, none of them amounted to much in my in my perspective. And as I continued in philosophy, I got really into what does it mean to know something? And how do we have knowledge? What does it mean to know something? And I kind of realized that I knew a heck of a lot less than I thought I knew. To to have knowledge when I'm absolutely certain about something then dotnet logically and rationally makes sense. And no, no longer things meet that criteria. At least after the goes through my interpretation, my intuition so I said, Oh, man, I believe all these things I thought I knew Hey, when my thigh faith thing I used to know from if I believe things I cannot prove. Maybe I could believe the song I suppose. I suppose it's a faith that I was holding back on because I couldn't improve them. Um, so I started in going to Church to learn more about it. And it was just an amazing way to connect with people and build those relationships and have that shared identity, and Jesus Christ and not in ourselves. So I started in, in building empathy for people in the community. And so I ended up going, I had a job that wasn't going anywhere. So I went to Fresno State to get my masters and we have counseling. i Oh, my God, when I went to Fresno State, I can't do not I didn't even know what rehabilitation counseling was. I just thought I needed to do something different. They, they let me into that program. And I am fine. And they, they, they are going to pay my tuition. And to pay me and on top of that to go and do it. So why not? So I went to study, counseling, and learning how to connect with people. And I remember, you know, I came from philosophy, I had this very enlightened mind. Because that's what I was used to. And I remember counseling, someone, you know, I missed the counselor name would read counselor Lee. And they were talking about how they had this really dramatic thing going on. And it was really tough. And so I thought, oh, okay, I know what that's like, because I've had that in my life. So I'm gonna connect with you by saying, oh, yeah, I understand. Me too. I've had that too. So as, as this person was talking, in the midst of her grief, you know about this loss that she has. I was smiling and nodding, preparing you to say, I understand. I've had this happen in my life. And I remember she's looked at me with, you know, daggers in her eyes, she gave me the tiger, she looked at me. And she said, Stop effing smiling at me. And it just kind of stopped me. And I was like, whoa, what? Like, that's intense. And I eventually I realized, even though I've found my own grief, and I've had my own experiences of challenge, I cannot say I have had the same experience as someone else. You know, we all have different things that we've all gone through. And me wanting to avoid that displeasure with her on Cosmo Ness without grief, when it's not okay to push it aside. But I needed to connect with her, and allow her to take the reins, and experience what she's experiencing. To be the iceberg of her own experience. And that's, you know, kind of reinforced in me to think that I've known about me, life is not about what I think about things. Life is about other people and letting them do own and grown and do what they need to do. And it's not my place to impose my value and my judgment on people. It's, it's my place to encourage them to do what they need to do.   Michael Hingson  29:11 Were you able to connect with her? I was, yeah. It's, it is all about learning how to truly be empathetic, as opposed to just saying, you know, it all which is, of course, what you said earlier. And it makes perfect sense. You know, it's, it's so easy for us to just say, Yeah, we know, I've been there done that. But that doesn't really matter. What matters is if you can show that you understand that she's been there and she's doing that and she needs your support. Not just your don't want to say arrogance, but your idea of what she's going through so that makes perfect sense.   Kyle Campbell  29:55 Why you know, I I I don't My book I have coming back here in a moment. But one of the lines, I say in my book is, people don't need your sass, they need your support. And when we make it about us when we say, Oh, I've been through that, or, Oh, this is when I think about your situation right now, when we invite ourselves to give those uninvited, you know, pieces of advice, we're kind of taking over, more not allowing someone to experience what they need to experience. I believe that we need to get over ourselves. And we need to learn how to hold back on that thought of, Oh, I know how to solve your problem. I know what you need to hear. And we need to just put ourselves on pause for just a minute to let someone share and talk about what they're experiencing. I'm certainly certainly there's a time and place for us to offer advice and talk about well, we've been to are just like I am right now. But we need to be mindful the timing, and the circumstance in which we offer that advice.   Michael Hingson  31:37 So how does faith enter into your work as a rehabilitation counselor.   Kyle Campbell  31:44 So, um, I have the, the Certified Rehabilitation Counselor credential, but that's not my position at the college. I won't guys's student services, support coordinator helping people navigate in college and different assignments, different situations based on their barriers brought about by disability aspects of disability. And it absolutely has so much to do with my position. I love what I do, because I haven't a chance to interact with so many different peoples and students about different things. And what I bring with me from counseling, and from my faith is that, oh, it's not about me. I'm not here to impose myself onto anyone. But I'm here to be open for when someone comes to me with an issue, whether it's him or whatever issue it is, um, and we it's easy to be quick to solve a problem. Because we recognize the problem, and we say, Oh, I know what to do. So if I have a student and come in and say, I am having trouble with this homework assignment, I don't know how I don't know what my teacher wants me to do. It's so easy for me to jump in and say, Oh, it's easy. All you have to do is Sanaya that comes I get it. But that approach is not what someone needs to hear they need my support, not my perspective on how I would do it. Maybe they do but not yet. So every single person, we interact with every single person that we see, they are carrying a story with them. They're carrying a perspective, and a background and loads of experience with them. And it's all these things that make us who we are as individual people. And so, when someone comes to me for help on how to do anything, my position is to be curious to be curious about whose error, who they are and how the day is going to build that we're poor. And also, how can we solve together and what you're doing but anyway experiencing so to to allow someone the chance to have the autonomy of their own situation, but also to offer my perspective. There's, and my, you know, my faith certainly has a lot to do with that. I don't know if anyone listening is going to remember. I don't know if you remember Michael, there was a singer in the 70s named Keith Gooding. And he played piano on your saying he was, you know, awesome guy, keep going. And one of his songs, it's called make my life, a prayer to you. And one of his lines in non song is, it was so hard to see, when my eyes were on me. And I think as people, it's easy to put our eyes on ourselves to think about ourselves as the hero of the story, you know, because we have got, perspective is kind of built into us. But it when our eyes or our eyes when we only think about it ourselves, it's hard to see other people it's hard to see in that situation. Yeah.   Michael Hingson  36:12 Well, you know, one of the things that I've always felt it is that life's an adventure. It's an event, but it's not just an adventure. For me, it's an adventure for you. It's an adventure for everyone. Yeah, and, and we are all traveling on the same multi lane road of life, but we're all having our own different adventures, and it would be arrogant of me to presume that I know, all that there is to know about you and your life, you come from having different experiences, but my gosh, together, and learning from each other, we both can grow, which is really as good as it gets.   Kyle Campbell  36:52 Yeah, yeah.   Michael Hingson  36:57 Oh, there you go. Well, let me ask you this, you know, so clearly, people would say you have a disability, because of being operable brainstem, and all the physical things that it's done, although the disability is, is, is, I think, probably as much in other people's minds as it is in our own. But talk about a little bit, though, just the whole concept of disability, how do we view it? How should we view it? I know, there are a lot of different models of disabilities and so on. How would you how would you go about really describing what disability should mean?   Kyle Campbell  37:36 That's a great question with 1000s of different answers. And so for me, I think, certainly in going up with disability or disabilities, I never knew I had I, I had this ability, I didn't identify with it. And then just wasn't talked about. It wasn't avoided. But I do not remember, there was the word around my life in, you know, in the 90s, and 2000s. And even when I went to college, I knew about the disability resource center that we had. But I didn't identify it or as disabled or with a disability. Because I thought, Oh, I function. So that's, I mean, you know, that was my understanding. And it was when I went to Fresno State to study, live in a teaching counseling, where, you know, for those of you who do not know, we have visitation counseling, is counseling with a focus on people with disabilities, on how to work with people and what they might experience with their disability and so on, so forth. And it was in my program that I learned one disability actually was, you know, I live in an impairment that can affect us in different ways. And I It was then that I realized, wait a minute, I avoided me, I count as having a disability. I have, you know, daily impairments in my activities of daily life, you know, walking and talking and you know, things like that. And now, I still experienced every day every day. Um, and so, you know, when I went to school, we learned about different models the night said, monochrome, The medical model of understanding disability is that disability is, it was sort of something wrong within the individual, something that needs to be cured by a doctor, so that you can be healed and be better in some back into society as non disabled anymore. So that was that's manucho Power of disabilities, and it's the individual who is disabled. And the social model of disability is that no, no, no, it's not the individual, it's society that disables the individual based on how societies built and set up. And the program I went to, was all about social model of disability, you know, I've been training people, as persons first, which I got really my mind and made sense to say, Yeah, we don't talk about disabled people, but people, it's a person with a disability, you're putting the person first. And the idea is that more you're valuing the person before mentioning the disability. So you're valuing the human before the clinician. So I came out of my program, you know, all amped about Houston first language. And I remember I just told one of my colleagues at work about Hussin first language, how we shouldn't say disabled person, we should say, a person with a disability because we don't want to disabled someone, we want to dry them up, you know, in stark, orange condition. But are you the person. And so I felt good about myself seeing all of this. And I remember, nice, a student walked in, I was in my back office, they said, Hi, I'm a disabled student, and I need such and such, you know, and I kind of wanted to go out there and say, no, no, no, you're not a disabled person, you're a person with a disability. And, of course, I wouldn't do that. Because I can project value is values onto someone. But it made me think, Wait a minute, if I'm wrong about if this student is identifying as disabled first, you know, I got curious about that. And I found on mono disability and called the identity model of disability. And that's where we identify and in boys, although disability orientation that causes impairment, and we embrace it, embrace the culture, not being able to do something as making us a part of who we are. So, you know, I used to think the medical model was bad social model was good. And, you know, that brings to mind my, my favorite Star Wars movie, Star Wars Episode 31 Venge of the Sith. And there's their power at the end of the movie, where Anakin Skywalker is doing bad things, and he's about to become Darth Vader. And he says to me, wants to know me, you enough for me, or you're against me, wanting to Gianna and Obi Wan being the master Jedi, of course, I have said only assist dealers in absolutes, which is an absolute theme and which is kind of funny. Most important is that it doesn't need to be this or that. And it doesn't need to be medical or social. And I've seen him with my life. Part of it truly is medical. I have glass function. And I had medical procedures variation and eye surgery. And they they really improved my function. And I'm going for oh nine so there is availability ticking on a medical model. And certainly there is up Look at to the social model. I do a lot of LinkedIn learning classes. And I didn't want by a Paralympian. Her name is Liz Johnson. And she was saying that people have disabilities people have these conditions that they live with. But it's society that disables us. So if if I had to walk a tightrope to my car, you know, Well, normally I'm going to do that variable, the only way I could do it, then I'm disabled, is I'm not able to do that.   Michael Hingson  45:44 Or you figure out a way to do it. But I think that one of the the big issues that we, we all really need to think a lot more about and I've started thinking about, and I've been using it lately in some speeches that I've given is that words matter. So for example, persons with disabilities, does not mean we don't have ability, and we've got to, and have the right to and should change what disability means. It doesn't mean a lack of ability at all. Yes, it is a way that that as people like to do we get classified. But as I point out, and I've done it a number of times, I don't think there is one person on this planet who doesn't have a disability. Yeah, most, most people are light dependent. And they don't get along well, without lights. I just yesterday evening, we had a situation where someone was here helping my wife with some things. And it was Halloween. And one of the things we weren't doing was giving away candy that tells you that this is being recorded on November 1, but we we, we turn the lights off so that people wouldn't continuously ring the doorbell because we're not doing trick or treating. But this person couldn't get around in the house. And, and that's typical. So we we dealt with it. But the bottom line is that the the light bulb was invented to give people a way to be able to function in the dark, it doesn't change the fact that they have a disability. Compared to some of us now, I realize there are a whole lot more light dependent people than light independent people. And all that really should say is that we need to be a little bit more open and understanding about people's differences. And that's part of what we don't tend to see a lot nearly as much as we should and you know, you use some some terms like impairment, and and their problems with that. Are you impaired? Well, it depends on how you want to look at it. Are you mobility impaired? Well, let's talk about when you talk to mentioned the tightrope, how many people could get on a tightrope walk into their car today? Right? Yeah, and are not alone in that not many is absolutely right now can more people learn to do it? Possibly. But the bottom line is they can't today. And so we've got to drop the concept, it seems to me of impaired people who happen to have diminished eyesight are called either blind if they're totally blind, or visually impaired. And first of all, I think that that's a serious problem. The so called professionals in the world have dealt with that they have, they've created those things to make a schism and a difference of classifications between someone who has no eyesight and someone who has some eyesight, but doesn't have full eyesight. But the problem with visually impaired is first of all, visually, we're not different simply because we're blind or because we have a lack of some eyesight. And so visually is not something that should be used. So you could change that to vision. But impaired again means you're still equating it to full eyesight. And it's like with with people who happen to be deaf. They'll shoot you if you say deaf or hearing impaired and you probably know this as well as anyone, right. Why? Why is it that people who have some hearing loss don't want to be called hearing impaired? Do you know?   Kyle Campbell  49:33 Well, I think it goes back to identity and how we see ourselves how we think about ourselves. And like you mentioned, Michael, people have a tendency to want to categorize others and that's kind of how, you know, he would do things sometimes. And people have said such a wide variety of experiences and abilities, and characteristics and things to do with them. Where we, we can't really easily put someone into a category, we can't really lump someone based on our, our own perception of them. And yeah, it makes me think about what you were saying about language. And learn how words change, meaning. And even though we might say the same word, Michael, we might have different meanings to that word.   Michael Hingson  50:57 But we can change definitions. And we don't tend to do that. In the area of disabilities as much, because people really still consider us impaired or not having as much ability. And the answer with deaf people and heart and not using hearing impaired is they certainly culturally do not want to be viewed as impaired. And there's no reason they should be. So you shouldn't have that equation that says that you're hearing impaired and I'm not so I'm better than you. And that is one of the reasons that they that the general preference is deaf or hard of hearing, you're taking away the whole concept of impaired. And so like with blindness, it shouldn't be visually impaired or vision impaired, it should be blind or low vision, take away the equation, the equating part take away the comparison. And there's no reason that we ought to not do that. In our world today, people are afraid of disabilities, because oh, it could happen to us. We've seen it we see things happen. Well, yeah. But there are a lot of things that can happen to a lot of people. And somewhere along the line we have to make the determination is a society. that disability is a way that we classify people, because they're somewhat different from us. So does that mean a left handed person is a person with a disability? Because they aren't like most people, by the definitions it should be. So, you know, we don't we don't deal with that very well. But we've got to get away from feeling that disability means lack of ability, and we shouldn't dance around it, it's playing disability fine. I'm a person with a disability. And so is Barack Obama, and so is Joe Biden. And so were you and so as everyone else, everyone has challenges, and everyone has differences.   Kyle Campbell  53:15 Everyone has challenges. And this ability, disability, you know, we're all gonna have a disability at some point. As we age as our life changes, we're experienced these different things. And we meet the criteria, the definition given for disability, but it's how we, how we identify, and II mentioned value. It's helped me value in childhood that really makes the difference. I think, that, you know, we, I think like all culture, what the message was sent is that we value abilities to do different things. And which is hard for someone who has had a difficult time dealing with things. I mean, I like you know, I'm, and I like people, but we need to educate, educate, that, um, a person's various aspects to their identity does not impact their value as a person they have no value is you can't take it away. You can't add to it. You can't change it. A person is valuable in and of themselves. And that's it. something special, I think   Michael Hingson  55:02 we need to recognize that everyone has gifts, and everyone has challenges. It doesn't matter who we really are. So what college do you work at now?   Kyle Campbell  55:14 I want for a community college to invest in the essential battery.   Michael Hingson  55:20 Right? And what's your favorite part of the job?   Kyle Campbell  55:24 I'm working with students who are curious, you know, I mentioned curiosity. And I'm doing this to get to know people and students are curious about their different subjects, their different classes in school. And you never know who you're going to meet those people with all kinds of different backgrounds, and just so many potential connections. But I really value the growth mindset that is on the college campus or in a school setting. We're here to learn. And we're here to unstoppable. Thanks. So that's my favorite part. Now environment.   Michael Hingson  56:20 You're clearly a very resilient person by any definition. So where do you find hope? And what would you advise others of us in terms of how to find more hope and bring it into our lives?   Kyle Campbell  56:33 Thank you, Michael was the land is my, one of my absolute favorite words. My other word is appreciate. And both I was doing it and appreciate our long words, they have forced them forcing the boys there. You know, someone like me, we don't just say him on accident, we have to be intentional to say, um, when when my other people once multibeam resilient as to be flexible, to have hope that no matter what happens, it's going to be okay, I'm gonna find a way to make me my need to adjust your path a teensy bit. Bozena has been able to say, oh, it's not working out the way I planned. But that's okay. Because whenever it happens, it's going to have value. So, for me, I'm with my Christian faith. I know that my hope is with Jesus, and my hope is with God, and that no matter what happens, he's going to walk you out for my benefit. It's simply said that he's, you know, and let us know, for those of us in the faith, and there are absolutely times I know, understand what's going on. And if I try to understand what's going on, I'm gonna drive myself crazy. And I'm gonna put myself under stress and ensconced into even the heart. And the letting go of control. That's learning loves process has been amazing. For my resilience, because I'm designing go, I'm no longer personally connected to a specific outcome of something. Instead, I'm committed to the process. And I'm committed to my response of a situation. And I can't control so many things, none of us can, but I can enter them into my honors spots, right? Something   Michael Hingson  59:16 you know, in the interesting thing about religion. We all have the same God, whether it's Christian, whether it's Jewish, whether it's Muslim, and the Bible tells us that we all have the same God and the teachings, the basic tenants of teachings are the same, and it would just be so much better if people would learn more about God and really reflect on the fact that we're all part of the same world.   Kyle Campbell  59:46 I think, I think there is a tendency to want to point out things that we am I lacking in each other? I think there is a feeling of wanting to be superior. And to say, my beliefs are better than yours. Or mine, my belief is true and yours is not all my experience is more valid than yours. And I obviously do believe there is an absolute truth right there. Um, but it's it's and they weren't my end is not our place to judge and saying whose perspective is better? It's like, you know, like, like the, you know, there's a story of the monks, the blind monks feeling something, there is five of them in the soil, and they feel these different things in or something? And one says, oh, no, it's very thin. Anyone says no, it's very strong and dense. And I says, No, it's very long and kind of waves around. And they're all describing different parts of the elephant, right? Yeah, that's, that's the same event. And they all have a different perspective of it. So for one of them, say, your neuron you're on for thinking it's like this when it's like this? And I'm right.   Michael Hingson  1:01:49 Yeah, yeah.   Kyle Campbell  1:01:51 I think that's an this step on our part. And, you   Michael Hingson  1:01:58 know, the, the interesting thing is that so many people judge, and so many people once again, decide that they know best, it goes back to what you said near the beginning of our time, which is that, in reality, you, you can't make the determination for other people. And you know, what, even if one religion is absolutely correct, and all the other religions are incorrect, it seems to me that if we follow the preachings of Christianity, it goes back to what you just said about judging. It is not our place to judge. And that's between God and every individual and Far be it from me to decide what God's choice is going to be.   Kyle Campbell  1:02:50 Absolutely, Michael, even though I think I know better, probably for me to say what is right. For me to judge the situation,   Michael Hingson  1:03:05 if you compare most of the major religions, the basic teachings, and the basic goals are really the same. And so again, Far be it from us to say, who's right and who's wrong, or what's right and what's not. And that includes people saying, Well, Jesus wasn't the Son of God. If you follow the teachings of Jesus, we're all children of God. And Jesus makes that very clear. But the issue still is, you know, we all have to stop judging, and it goes back to disabilities the same way. So, so, you know, it is a challenge. And, you know, I really applaud the adventure that you're on. And I have to ask, we're going to have to end at some point here, but tell me about the book that you're writing.   Kyle Campbell  1:03:54 Yeah, sure. I could chat with you on Michael.   Michael Hingson  1:04:00 We could do that. Yeah.   Kyle Campbell  1:04:02 Well, I don't know if the US would appreciate that. So yeah, I have a book coming out. It's called beyond belief. How a brain stem tumor, Dr. faith and purpose, his life. And in my book beyond belief, um, I I talked about all these things that we've talked about today, my, my, my journey, as a kid and growing up and having medical issues. I talked a little bit about disability and my journey to doing counseling, still philosophy, and kind of weave it in with the Bible and seeing myself in the Bible and it was the philosopher and theologian. So uncloak is gorgeous, and you need to see yourself in the Bible. And after the Bible we talking to you, and about you. And so I began my journey of what that was for me. But it's in bunk, and I end with practical strategies for someone. So living beyond belief, or maybe, as you might say, unstoppable, living things like calling out the value, and the others, things like being patient, for the sake of others, things like being kind to each other. And it's so easy to skip these things, as after thoughts of what we should be doing, when in reality, they're essential to what we should be doing every day. And it's been a fun process to write the book. And I'm excited to share my message. I beyond beneath our brainstem tumor, broad and purpose to life is going to be available on Amazon in both paperback and Kindle edition.   Michael Hingson  1:06:29 When will it be coming out?   Kyle Campbell  1:06:31 The official launch date is Thursday, November is direct, which is this Thursday, the Kindle edition will be 99 cents that day. So if you wanted to donate $1, and help me become a best selling author and help and learn about living with the brainstem tumor, you can do that. I didn't realize for a long time, how unique it is to live with a brain stem tumor. We have our brain tumors every now and then. We don't hear much about brain stem tumors. And when I realized recently, how special that is, it was kind of like, I had a conviction that, wow, I need to share this story. So I'm happy to have the opportunity to do that.   Michael Hingson  1:07:37 Are you self publishing it? Or do you have a publisher?   Kyle Campbell  1:07:40 I'm self I'm I have a hybrid publisher. So I'm self publishing. But I have an independent press who has helped me along the way. Yeah, they're called press. They're based out of Fresno here.   Michael Hingson  1:07:59 Well, I hope that you'll also figure out a way to make it an audio book or get audible to produce it and put it up on its site and make it available in as many different forms as you can.   Kyle Campbell  1:08:11 Of course, thank you. Yeah, in fact, just today, I was talking with my engineer, my my publisher about doing audiobooks. And trying to get not started. So I would love to have that. People have asked for it. And and yeah, hopefully it's coming down the pike.   Michael Hingson  1:08:34 Cool. Well, Kyle, I want to thank you for being here with us today. It's been a real joy and a real pleasure. And I think I've learned a lot. And it's been a wonderful conversation. How can people reach out to you if they want to contact you or learn more about you and so on?   Kyle Campbell  1:08:53 Yeah, thank you, Michael. You can find me online. My website is www dot Kyle K Y L E  www.Kylebeyondbelief.com My email is on there Kyle dot beyondbelief@gmail.com. But if he had to my website, you will be able to fill out a form and contact me on there. One more time. www.Kylebeyondbelief.com.   Michael Hingson  1:09:30 Well, Kyle, thank you very much again for being with us. And I want to thank you for listening out there today. We really appreciate it hope that you found this informative and enjoyable and inspirational. If you have a chance please give us a five star rating wherever you're listening to our podcast. And I would love to know what you think so please feel free to email me at Michaelhi at acessibe A C C E S S I B E dot com, or go to our podcast page www dot Michael hingson H i n g s o n.com/podcast. So we really do value your thoughts, your comments, and Kyle, for you and for all of you listening out there if you know of anyone else who you think we ought to have as a guest on the podcast, unstoppable mindset, please let us know we'd love to hear from you. And we'd love to, to find ways to to accommodate any guests that you bring our way. So once more Kyle, thanks very much. It's been wonderful to have you here today.   Kyle Campbell  1:10:35 Thank you, Michael. It's been great. I appreciate that   Michael Hingson  1:10:43 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. 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Doug Paul is an expert on cravings and talks to Serena and Liz about the difference between normal human cravings and cravings for substances. Here is Part 2 of this series!Bio:Doug Paul, LPC, LMHC has been working as a clinician with substance use disorders since 2007. He completed a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Central Florida in 2002. He went on to complete a Master of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling from Georgia State University in 2007. During his graduate training, he participated in and presented University-sponsored research findings at the American Counseling Association's Annual Convention in Montreal, Quebec; then went on to present at over 35 national and regional professional conventions over the next 16 years. While at two nationally-recognized treatment programs in the Atlanta area from 2007-2019, he gained skills in both clinical and leadership acumen. Currently, in private practice, he continues to provide therapy, consultation, and program development. Doug continues to practice his own recovery program over the last 22 years.

Meet Kati MckendryClinical Director, MS, LPC, CCSKatie's primary role is to oversee the clinical programming and staff at Little Creek Lodge and Little Creek Outpatient Services. Katie works to constantly improve the treatment offered at LCL and LCOPS, in order to meet with individual and community needs of the clients we serve. She works closely with the staff to ensure clients and their families are getting the best care possible. Katie finds it essential to spend time getting to know all clients and their families and enjoys working directly with them throughout their treatment experience.Katie resides with her husband and two young daughters in Clarks Green, PA. In addition to Little Creek Lodge, Katie in her free time enjoys riding her road bike.Education:Licensed Professional Counselor, State of PennsylvaniaMS, Rehabilitation Counseling, University of Scranton, 2011Outstanding Rehabilitation Counseling Student, 2011Member of Chi Sigma Iota honor societyBS, Counseling and Human Services, University of Scranton, 2009Graduated with Magna Cum Laude honorsMember of Tau Upsilon Alpha honor societyPrior Work Experience:Prior to joining Little Creek Lodge, Katie worked as a Drug and Alcohol Counselor at Pyramid Healthcare, an inpatient adolescent drug and alcohol facility, and at R.A.F.T., an adolescent IOP program. She also worked for Pennsylvania's Office of Vocational Rehabilitation, where she worked with adolescents and adults with developmental, mental, emotional, and intellectual disabilities. Katie has worked at her private practice since completing her Master's program in 2011.Support the show Stop by our Apple Podcast and drop a Review! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/allbetter/id1592297425?see-all=reviewsSupport The Showhttps://www.patreon.com/allbetter

The definition of craving is a strong or uncontrollable desire. Craving is a universal phenomenon and is part of the recovery process. Doug Paul is an expert on cravings and talks to Serena and Liz about the difference between normal human cravings and cravings for substances. There is so much to learn in this area so join us for part one of this discussion.Bio:Doug Paul, LPC, LMHC has been working as a clinician with substance use disorders since 2007. He completed a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Central Florida in 2002. He went on to complete a Master of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling from Georgia State University in 2007. During his graduate training, he participated in and presented University-sponsored research findings at the American Counseling Association's Annual Convention in Montreal, Quebec; then went on to present at over 35 national and regional professional conventions over the next 16 years. While at two nationally-recognized treatment programs in the Atlanta area from 2007-2019, he gained skills in both clinical and leadership acumen. Currently, in private practice, he continues to provide therapy, consultation, and program development. Doug continues to practice his own recovery program over the last 22 years.

Mentor Moments Season Two Story Moments: Everyone has a story to tell. Our unique stories shape our lives and the individuals we become. This season Mentor Moments will feature individuals sharing their story moments. Each episode will illustrate how seemingly little life moments ultimately shaped our careers in ways that were unpredictable and personally fulfilling. This episode we feature Melissa Rankin-Short. Currently she is employed at Marygrove as Director of Transitional and Independent Living and has worked there since graduating from Maryville's Rehabilitation Counseling program in 2012. In addition, she opened a private practice, InDEPTH Counseling, in 2020. Learn how Melissa has developed her skills in various positions at Maygrove and found ways to give back to the greater good. We hope you enjoy getting to know Melissa! Melissa is the Director of Transitional Services at Marygrove. In this role, she oversees the Independent Living Program and the Therapeutic Foster Homes. Melissa has worked at Marygrove for almost 10 years. She also maintains a small private practice, In Depth Counseling, LLC. Outside of providing therapeutic services, Melissa enjoys spending her down time with her husband, their three dogs and her family and friends. She is always open to sharing about her professional experiences and providing space for others to express themselves, explore their own ideas and perspectives as they navigate their professional and personal paths. Missouri Rehabilitation Association Eastern Chapter Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Youtube MRA Eastern Chapter Blog

你有聽過復健諮商 (Rehabilitation Counseling)嗎？“復健諮商”對於身心障礙者能提供的服務與支持有哪些？今天節目我們邀請到林千淳博士來和大家聊聊她的專業領域以及所服務的族群。

Mary Jo Harmon recently obtained a Masters in Rehabilitation Counseling from the University of Memphis.  As the first college graduate in her family, she embraces a dynamic curiosity to create a career path less traveled. She returned to graduate school after a lengthy career in IT Management and made a goal early in her academic program to achieve both a high-compensation career while embracing a love for psychology and the desire to impact the health and well-being of Black people. For the past nearly 12 months, she has traveled the world while completing the requirements to become a licensed mental health counselor working in private practice.  Her future plans include further international travel in 2023 to Central America and Africa while finalizing licensure requirements. Mary Jo also identifies with the health at any size community and is committed to raising awareness of fat stigma.  She has completed research and published in the areas of young adults, intellectual disabilities, and career outcomes and has recently been accepted into the Adler University Psychology and Organizational Management doctoral program. “You know, when you leave the airport, and you see pictures of models selling things, they don't look Asian. So it's a lot of pressure for women here.”   Learn More About: Introduction to Mary Jo Harmon and her journey. What it's like to find a place to live in Asia. What's the culture like in Hanoi? And so much more!   FREE EVENT ALERT:  This FREE value-packed event "Insurance Billing Startup Maximizer LIVE" will walk you through the confusing maze of starting insurance billing in your private practice AND set you on the right path to make your dream practice a reality.   Hop on the email list for all of the details. https://kymtolson.kartra.com/page/e   By the end of the two days you will have a better understanding of the following topics: Credentialing Startup Contracting: What's Next ERA's and EFT's How to I Get Signed Up I've seen my first client now what do I do? -AND- You will have access to Kym Tolson, Annie Day and Dawna Haswell,  live for Two Hours!  Attend our Live Billers Meetings where you can pick our brains about any of these topics and we will walk you right through it. We have two sessions available, attend 1 or both! 12:00 - 1:00 pm 6:00 - 7:00 pm   Let's get your insurance-based practice started!!  Click the link to sign up! https://kymtolson.kartra.com/page/e     Connect with me: Instagram: TheTravelingTherapist_Kym  Signup to learn more about life as Traveling Therapist: https://landing.mailerlite.com/webforms/landing/l2v7c3  The Traveling Therapist Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/onlineandtraveling/  Bill Like A Boss Insurance Billing Community: https://kymtolson.kartra.com/page/blab Subscribe to the Podcast Apple iTunes | Spotify | Google Podcast | Stitcher | Amazon | Castbox

The Edge Show Created and Written by Wendy Love Edge Host: Wendy Love Edge and Guest Host: Christina Meriah-Lucia Musical Guest: Donald Prange Special Guest: Arlene Dorischild Produced by A. Edge Productions Producer in Studio: Quazi Editor: Flint Woods Arlene Dorischild: Arlene is a graduate of the Bancroft School of Massage Therapy and former owner of Amethyst Point Holistic Center. She is a former Registered Nurse having worked at several area hospitals, and a counselor working 10 years in the field of Domestic Violence. She has a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from Assumption College and has studied Spiritual Principles with Unity obtaining her Teaching Certificate from Unity World Wide Ministries in 2001. Arlene received her Reiki Master Teaching Certificate after a year of study with Grace Walsh, her mentor and Master Reiki Teacher in the Usui Traditional Method of Natural Healing, Arlene is the mother of two sons, grandmother of eight and has one great- grandchild. She enjoys gardening and her cat, Sunshine. She is a life-long learner and most weekends when she isn't teaching, she can be found at a workshop or an online class.

"All healing is first a healing of the heart." - Carl Townsend   Healing, we all need it! I am so excited to welcome friend and varsity human, Lisa Tahir to the T&T mic! Lisa is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) in California and Louisiana providing therapeutic services to adolescents, adults, and couples therapy. In addition, Lisa is an author, course creator, fellow podcaster and fitness enthusiasts. I had the pleasure of meeting Lisa at a podcast camp months ago and appreciated her bright energy and openness right away. Lisa has an impressive background academically, in life experience, and in questioning a better way overall- perfect T&T mindset:). Lisa can pair the science with the intuition to help you on your journey in healing and so much more. In this conversation Lisa shares how she was introduced to therapy, how she realized it was her calling, and how she continues to level up and keep the edges sharp as life continues to evolve. This is an awesome conversation for anyone going through something (so, all of us) and looking to connect or find the next best steps- starting with healing. Start with a conversation with a mental health pro- I suggest Lisa!!   Highlights: Physical AND mental fitness. Therapy, connection, healing, and evolution. Headspace, heart space, and just taking space. Intention and the universe's timing. Grace, compassion, emotions, and letting go. Forgiveness. Releasing guilt and the importance of movement aka working out. The power of one small act of kindness, including to yourself. Quantum Physics. Everything is energy.   Lisa Tahir LCSW-LLC: Intuitive Psychotherapist I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) in California and Louisiana providing therapeutic services to adolescents, adults, and couples therapy. All sessions are phone, FaceTime, Zoom, and Skype therapy services. Specific issues I work with include, but are not limited to: Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) Addiction Anxiety Depression Adjustment Issues Career Counseling Self-Esteem Body Image Relationships/Pre-Marriage Counseling L.G.B.T.Q.I. WPATH Letters of Readiness I am the author of The Chiron Effect: Healing Our Core Wounds through Astrology, Empathy, and Self-Forgiveness, endorsed by His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama. I'm a top rated therapist motivated to work with you by utilizing modalities and interventions drawn from intuition, energy healing, meditation, astrology, Reiki, sound frequency, fitness, and mindset. I'm certified in EMDR Level I, Reiki Level II, and as a Thought Coach through The Institute For Transformational Thinking. I host the weekly podcast, 'All Things Therapy,' and am a member of the United States Press Agency with credential #US8-DEP36535. Reach out for speaking engagements on topics tailored to your audience related to emotional health, mindset, human potential and growth, manifestation, spirituality and psychology, Psychoastrology®, personal transformation, and meditation. ·         Best Therapists Los Angeles ·         Couples Therapy Los Angeles Credentials Master of Social Work, 1997 Tulane University, School of Social Work Bachelor of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling, 1994 Louisiana State University Medical Center CV provided upon request. Click here for my professional profile. lisa@nolatherapy.com 504-261-4443     Connect with T&T: IG: @TurmericTequila Facebook: @TurmericAndTequila Website: www.TurmericAndTequila.com   Host: Kristen Olson IG: @Madonnashero Tik Tok: @Madonnashero Website: www.KOAlliance.com

Sarah Rose is a native of the San Francisco Bay Area. She received a BA in Judaic Studies from UC Berkeley, a Certificate in Environmental Restoration and Watershed Management from Merritt College, and most recently a Masters's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from New Mexico Highlands University. She is also a cult survivor and wrote about her harrowing experience in her book “Escape Through the Window” which is available now on Amazon. Sarah's breathtaking story was also covered in Season 2 of Identification Discovery's series “Dangerous Persuasions” Sarah joins Rachel to detail some of the traumatic experiences she writes about in her book, sharing survival tactics from her long and ongoing journey towards healing. Throughout their intimate conversation, Rachel offers Sarah insights gained from her decades of helping people recover from cultic abuse, and together they examine the pitfalls and benefits of writing about experiences that have caused lasting traumas. Before You Go: Rachel offers advice on how to reassess first impressions and explains the dynamics of secrecy and transparency in high control groups or relationships. You can find Sarah's book here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21134900-escape-through-the-window Watch her story as portrayed in Investigation Discovery's Dangerous Persuasions series here: https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/hes-my-master/umc.cmc.5sdlt6e4nzgbn1iubg0582wl9?showId=umc.cmc.5y5pglgl3kmwftqwkgnjfpwq4 Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Aisha Mitchell Camerer, Ingrid Holm, Kirsten Blackburn, Will, Ali Vaughan, Baylie Freeman, Mavis Seehaus, Rebecca L Walter, Cat, Jessica, Julia, Jess, and Sarah O'Mahoney To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

In this episode meet Heather Servais M.S., CRC., PMP., CPM., PVE. Heather directs the Rehabilitation Services Administration (RSA) NCRTM contract at New Editions Consulting, Inc. She joined New Editions in the fall of 2021. Prior to joining New Editions, she worked for the Florida Division of Vocational Rehabilitation where she served in multiple roles including Vocational Rehabilitation Consultant, Supervisor of the Field and Provider Relations Unit, and Assistant Bureau Chief of Field Services. As the Assistant Bureau Chief of Field Services, she led agency Employment Programs; Ticket to Work; Deaf, Hard of Hearing, and Deafblind Services; Business Relations; and Learning and Development. She has also worked with a community rehabilitation provider as an Employment Specialist and as the Manager of Employment Services overseeing Employment Services, Vocational Evaluation, and contracts. Heather's expertise includes program development and implementation, project management, leadership development, and stakeholder engagement. Heather earned her Master's in Rehabilitation Counseling from West Virginia University. She is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC), Project Management Professional (PMP), Certified Public Manager (CPM), and Professional Vocational Evaluator (PVE). NCRTM website: https://ncrtm.ed.gov/Default.aspx

This next guest needs very little introduction but Ashley Butler is a top tier person inside and out!    Her open trasnsparency for starting her own business four years ago and still working and having passion in her major to be able to help people who have mental deficiencies. Her degree is in Psychology, and got her master's in Rehabilitation Counseling and Case Management.   In this episode we talk about:   - Freaknik Atlanta  - HBCU Experience  - Drinking Paul Mason and the newer generation  - Her business Honeybee Hair Collection   IG: @snookj @honeybeehaircollection

Bailey Nitschke proves that "the only normal people you know are the ones you don't know very well".After growing up around New Orleans with her grandparents, living through Hurricane Katrina, and tremendous family loss, Bailey began her journey toward healing with one short lived semester in Mississippi before moving to Montana with her best friend. In Montana, she restarted college with new goals with a fresh take on her faith, got herself a husband through a wild twist of fates, and is now finishing her Bachelors in Early Childhood Education with plans of getting a Masters in Clinical Mental Health and Rehabilitation Counseling. Bailey is absolutely passionate about connection and hearing the stories of other humans on their journey. We hope you enjoy getting to know Bailey as much as we did!Mentioned in the episode: Pastel Creamery on Instagram in Billings, MT Sarah Lagace on Know Normal People Understanding Grief Senlin Ascends by Josiah Bancroft Somebody's Daughter by Ashley C. Ford Follow the Hennings on Twitter: Stephen: @stephenghenning Dixie: @dixieleehenning You can also connect with Know Normal People on Twitter and Instagram at @knowpeoplepod and leave us a 5-star rating and a 1-2 sentence review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!Know Normal People is a proud founding member of the Highline Media Network, a collective of artist owned podcasts by normal people in normal places. Learn more at www.highline.network.

In today's episode, Erin talks with Sophia Spadacino. Sophia served 9 years Active Duty in the U.S. Air Force before transitioning into the Reserves where she currently serves as a First Sergeant. Sophia earned her graduate degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from UMD and worked for 4 years at the VA as a Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor (Voc Rehab). After the VA, Sophia went to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) as a Reasonable Accommodations Case Manager and currently works at Housing and Urban Development (HUD) as a RA Case Manager. Sophia joined Erin to talk about Ch. 31 Veteran Readiness and Employment (VR&E) Benefits. If you have a service-connected disability that limits your ability to work or prevents you from working, Veteran Readiness and Employment (formerly called Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment) can help. This program, also known as Chapter 31 or VR&E, helps you explore employment options and address education or training needs. In some cases, your family members may also qualify for certain benefits.You will learn about VR&E tracks for service members and veterans, eligibility, and how to apply.To learn more about Ch. 31 Veteran Readiness and Employment (VR&E) Benefits:  https://www.va.gov/careers-employment/vocational-rehabilitation/To connect with Erin: Life After the Uniform Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifeaftertheuniformLife After the Uniform Facebook Podcast Page: https://www.facebook.com/ErinSilverPodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/erinsilverpodcast/

Hop into this episode of Mentor Moments and get to know Laura Weeks! Laura is a graduate student at Maryville University's Rehabilitation Counseling program, as well as a member of the Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Students organization! Tune in to hear Laura's perspectives on counseling, the adolescent population, and answering your calling! Missouri Rehabilitation Association Eastern Chapter Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Maryville University Rehabilitation Counseling Youtube MRA Eastern Chapter Blog

TEDx Speaker, Author, CEO, Personal Development Coach, and Game Changer! In this episode, we are unpacking the imposter syndrome. Ms. Webster is the co-founder of S.U.R.e Refinement, an organization designed to help young women create self-love, self-belief, and self-worth within themselves. She holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Rehabilitation Counseling with a minor in Psychology. Her life's purpose is to inspire women to become the greatest version of themselves. In her upcoming book Make Tomorrow Proud of Today, she reassures the reader that we all have obstacles in life, but it's how we respond to those obstacles that matter.Guest info-Briaina WebsterWebsite- https://www.surerefinement.com/Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/s.u.r.e.refinement_/TEDx Talks- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h85OoPZsgVo This episode is sponsored by SimplePractice. Get your first $100 towards your first month of SimplePractice when you sign up for an account today. This exclusive offer is valid for new customers only. Go to https://www.simplepractice.com/partners/hersexualspace to learn more.  Her Sexual Space is an independent podcast created and hosted by Janice Leonard. Produced by Vibez Productionz.

Jerry Marzinsky is a retired licensed psychotherapist with over 35 years of experience working with and studying the thought processes of schizophrenics and criminally insane patients in some of the largest and most volatile psychiatric institutions in the nation. He was awarded the State of Arizona's meritorious service award and the Apple Award as a college instructor of abnormal psychology. Jerry holds a commercial pilot's license and served as a 2nd Lt. Arizona Civil Air Patrol. He is a certified SCUBA diver and has served as an Assistant Scout Master. His formal academic training comprises a B.A. in Psychology from Temple University, a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from the University of Georgia, and two years of study in a Ph.D. Psychology program. He is the author of “An Amazing Journey into The Psychotic Mind - Breaking the Spell of the Ivory Tower. ✅ Visit Jerry's website https://www.jerrymarzinsky.com/​✅ Read Jerry and Sherry's book https://www.amazon.com/AMAZING-JOURNE...​✅ Learn about Sherry's "That's a Lie" program https://keyholejourney.wordpress.com/...​✅ Help us get this information out by donating to the following link: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_d...​

In this episode, Al interviews Sarah Hancock, former professor of clinical psychiatric rehabilitation counseling at San Diego State University and a nationally certified rehabilitation counselor, on the topic of Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT) (recorded 7-1-21). Sarah received 17 years of treatment consisting of thirty-seven combinations of more than five medication classifications, 116 ECT treatments, multiple hospitalizations, and was institutionalized for thirteen months...all for a misdiagnosed mental illness that was determined to actually be fungal hepatic encephalopathy. Sarah now advocates for more regulations, safety testing, electrical dosing standards, injury assessment, and fully informed consent regarding ECT. Listen as we discuss possible consequences to receiving ECT, the limited training most psychiatrists receive in administering ECT,  the lack of proper assessment of possible negative consequences of patients receiving ECT, the research around ECT, and much more. To learn more about Sarah and ECT, check out her personal website at PsychRecoveryAndRehab.com, or LifeAfterECT.com, which is an educational resource created by a coalition of advocates concerned with ECT. You'll also find Sarah tweeting @PsychRecovery. If you have listened and feel that you have received some value from the podcast, please consider supporting the show by becoming a Patron at patreon.com/thedepressionfiles. You can begin to support the show with as little as $1.00/month! In addition to The Depression Files podcast, you can find Al's blog at TheDepressionFiles.com. There, you can also find out how to work with Al as a coach or schedule him for a public speaking event. You will also find Al on Twitter @allevin18. Lastly, please subscribe to the show and take just a minute to leave a review and rating.