The OCD Whisperer Podcast with Kristina Orlova

Episode Summary: Do you feel trapped in endless loops of “what if”? Like your brain is constantly playing out worst-case scenarios, you can't prove, but can't ignore either? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, I'm joined by Dr. Frederick Aardema, clinical psychologist, OCD researcher, and co-creator of Inference-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (ICBT). Together, we unpack how faulty reasoning and imagination, not just intrusive thoughts, drive OCD. Dr. Aardema shares how ICBT offers a powerful path back to reality, trust, and your authentic self—without relying on fear-based exposures.  

You wash your hands… but did you really get them clean? You wiped down the package… but what if something invisible is still there? You tell yourself it's fine, yet your brain won't let it go. If that sounds familiar, you're not alone. In this episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova welcomes back Mike Parker, licensed clinical social worker and creator of the OCD Space YouTube channel, to explore the obsessive doubt that drives contamination fears—and the path out of its grip. Together, they dive into the complexities of inference-based cognitive behavioral therapy (ICBT) and how it helps those with OCD step out of fear-driven reasoning and back into reality. But how do you convince your mind to trust your senses when OCD keeps whispering “what if”? Whether it's worries about unseen germs on a park bench, contamination from a package, or the lingering fear of harming others through inaction, this conversation lays it bare. Mike and Kristina break down the difference between healthy caution and compulsive checking, and why the way we reason matters just as much as the content of our fears. They explore how OCD hijacks imagination and certainty, and why choosing functional certainty—the decision to act as if you're okay unless proven otherwise—can be a powerful turning point. Can you learn to trust your senses again? Or will your imagination keep calling the shots? Tune in and find out—this might just change how you see everything… especially what you can't see. Let's dive in!   In This Episode [00:00:03]  Introduction to the episode [00:00:53]  Understanding ICBT [00:01:08]  Discussion on contamination fears [00:02:13]  Addressing invisible threats [00:03:04]  Grounding in reality [00:06:37]  Healthy reasoning vs. OCD reasoning [00:10:21]  Living with possibility [00:12:06]  Inferential confusion in OCD [00:13:33]  Constantly thinking about the unseen [00:14:24]  Helping clients recognize reality [00:15:29]  The challenge of OCD as a competitor [00:16:50]  Understanding reality and OCD [00:18:48]  Trust and perception [00:19:30]  Reality sensing in CBT [00:20:43]  Behavioral change and CBT [00:21:58]  Individualized treatment approaches [00:23:01]  Possibility vs. sensory information [00:24:02]  Relying on senses [00:24:25] Closing remarks and resources Notable Quotes [03:04] "It's true our senses can't detect certain things, but we have ways of dealing with that. They're already established, you know, as far as hand washing routines or, you know, if it's a religious situation, how much you should pray, what rituals you should do." — Mike Parker [06:06] "Healthy reasoning is like, okay, I know the limitations of my senses. I know what information I have available, and then ultimately I'm gonna make that decision based on that." — Mike Parker [07:07] "If you really want to sit on park benches and stop doing that. Let's realize you don't have to actually concern yourself with what you can't." — Mike Parker [15:59] "So, right, what you're telling me basically, is you're walking down the street and you have no visible poop on you, and you don't smell poop on you, and you're thinking about poop. We gotta figure out what's going on there, because you don't do that anywhere else in life." — Mike Parker [21:58] "I'm open about my OCD. There's still a certain way I thought, and next thing you know, you're right back in this anxious state that just feels horrendous.'." — Kristina [23:12] "Even in an area where your senses can't detect anything, the reasonable, rational way to live is to do that functional certainty thing and just to assume you're okay." — Mike Parker Our Guest Mike Parker, LCSW, is a licensed clinical social worker and private practice therapist based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He specializes in treating obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) using cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) and inference-based cognitive therapy (I-CBT). As the host of the OCD Space YouTube channel, Mike is dedicated to educating individuals and mental health professionals on effective OCD treatment approaches. He is passionate about helping clients understand and overcome obsessional doubt while also training fellow therapists in evidence-based interventions. With a focus on empowering individuals to trust themselves and break free from the cycle of compulsions, Mike continues to be a leading voice in the OCD treatment community. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website Mike Parker Website  LinkedIn  YouTube Mentioned Cognitive Therapy for OCD I-CBT Training Online Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh (https://www.korresults.com/sneakyrituals) ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe (https://www.korresults.com/icbtmasterclass) Disclaimer Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

There's a quiet tension in love when you live with OCD—an unshakable feeling that something's off, followed by crushing doubt: Is this real, or is it just my disorder? You learn to second-guess yourself, to dismiss your instincts, to stay in places that feel unsafe because your brain tells you fear is always a lie. But what if it isn't?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova talks with marine biologist, Antarctic researcher, and Braving the Waves author Ally Kristan about the dangerous intersection of OCD and relationships. Diagnosed at 12, Ally knows how OCD can distort reality—how you can mistake manipulation for reassurance, red flags for intrusive thoughts, and chaos for normalcy.   Together, they explore the heart of the dilemma: How do you trust yourself when your mind has betrayed you before? OCD doesn't just invent fears—it can bury real ones, conditioning you to ignore the quiet voice that says, This isn't right.   They unpack how manipulative partners exploit OCD's vulnerabilities—love bombing, gaslighting, instability disguised as passion. And they offer a counterpoint: what safe, steady love can actually feel like.   This episode isn't just insight—it's an invitation. To stop gaslighting yourself. To reclaim your instincts. To step into relationships that feel like peace instead of war.   The question isn't can you trust yourself again. It's: are you ready to try? Let's get into it! In This Episode [00:03] Introduction to Ally Kristan [01:00] Understanding OCD's impact [01:24] Distinguishing intrusive thoughts [02:32] Toxic relationships and therapy [04:48] Recognizing red flags [05:38] Love bombing explained [09:29] Gaslighting and its effects [10:12] Identifying healthy relationships [14:22] The role of reassurance in relationships [15:05] Navigating compulsive behaviors [16:18] Understanding relationship dynamics [16:46] Understanding OCD and relationships [17:10] Healthy relationship dynamics [18:07] Identifying toxic traits [18:54] Consistency in relationships [20:01] Evaluating relationship feelings [20:32] Comparing friendships to relationships [22:18] Good days vs. bad days [22:56] Rebuilding trust in instincts [23:21] Meditation for clarity [26:43] Nature as a healing tool [27:13] Finding the right meditation [28:32] Time and practice for intuition [29:20] Differentiating symptoms [32:03] Closing thoughts and Ally's resources   Notable Quotes [02:09] “It is really difficult to know the difference between the OCD noise and something that your gut instinct is telling you, especially in relationships." — Ally [06:52] "Love bombing is definitely something to look out for, especially if it's somebody pursuing you who you're not initially interested in. That should be a little bit of a red flag." — Ally [08:42] "When you're with someone who does truly love you and have your best interest at heart, they're going to make it feel like loving you is easier than breathing." — Ally [09:37] "Gaslighting is when somebody is basically making you doubt your own sense of reality." — Ally [17:47] "I really do believe that if you're with somebody who's really making you safe and really does have your best interest at heart, it's not going to exacerbate your OCD symptoms." — Ally [28:40] "Trying to regain touch with your own intuition and mind again, it takes time and practice and consistency, but once you get there, it's like the floodgates are open and such a sense of restored peace." — Ally Our Guest Ally Kristan is a marine biologist, wildlife advocate, and author of Braving the Waves, a memoir exploring her journey with OCD and toxic relationships. Her work has been featured in National Geographic, NPR, and Audubon Magazine. Through speaking engagements and her Instagram (@UpYourAlly), Ally empowers others to reclaim self-trust and navigate mental health challenges with resilience.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website   Ally Kristan Website  Instagram Book Disclaimer Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In this riveting episode of the OCD Whisperer podcast, host Kristina Orlova sits down with Mike Parker, a licensed clinical social worker and the creator of the popular YouTube channel OCD Space.   Together, they embark on a deep dive into the world of OCD and the transformative power of Inference based cognitive-behavioral therapy (ICBT). But what happens when doubt becomes the driving force behind every thought? And how can someone trapped in the cycle of obsessional doubt ever learn to trust their own mind again?   Mike Parker pulls back the curtain on the insidious nature of "obsessional doubt," a phenomenon that leaves individuals questioning their every thought, memory, and perception. Why do those with OCD feel compelled to seek reassurance over and over, even when they know it offers only fleeting relief? And how does this relentless doubt keep them locked in a prison of their own mind?   As the conversation deepens, Kristina and Mike explore the critical differences between ICBT and exposure and response prevention (ERP). But here's the burning question: Can understanding the origin of obsessive thoughts be the key to breaking free from their grip? Mike sheds light on how inferential confusion and obsessional doubt drive OCD.   This episode is a masterclass in navigating the labyrinth of OCD treatment. Will listeners walk away with a newfound understanding of how to confront their doubts? Or will the complexities of the human mind leave them questioning everything they thought they knew? Tune in to uncover the answers—and perhaps, a path to freedom. In This Episode [00:02]  Introduction to the episode   [00:56]  Understanding ICBT   [02:00]  Obsessional doubt explained   [02:21]  Differentiating ICBT from ERP   [03:36]  The nature of obsessional doubt   [05:58]  Reassurance-seeking behavior   [09:25]  Understanding internal evidence   [11:27]  The role of self-knowledge   [13:31]  General facts vs. personal context   [14:49]  Handling real mistakes   [16:40]  Exploring early memories   [17:46]  Understanding obsessional doubt   [19:22]  Childhood influences on OCD   [20:28]  Clarifying ICBT vs. psychodynamic therapy   [21:44]  Focus of inference-based CBT   [22:41]  Cognitive distortions in OCD   [25:34]  Re-evaluating daily routines   [27:06]  Timeframe for progress in treatment   [29:22]  Complicating factors in OCD treatment   Notable Quotes [00:02:42] "Obsessional doubt is a core process identified in OCD when you're doing I-CBT. It's a thought process where someone with OCD knows something but doesn't trust themselves enough to stick with what they know, leading them to question, dismiss, and seek more information than they have." - Michael Parker   [00:18:26] "We can start to see how long the client has been telling themselves an obsessional story about themselves... It was all logged in there and then all put together, but if we go back, we can see this actually never meant you should be locked into never-ending doubt." - Michael Parker   [00:23:39]"I-CBT is primarily a cognitive therapy... The focus really is figuring out why you reject information, why you don't trust it... Let's figure out why you doubted." — Michael Parker Our Guest Mike Parker, LCSW, is a licensed clinical social worker and private practice therapist based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He specializes in treating obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) using cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) and inference-based cognitive therapy (I-CBT). As the host of the OCD Space YouTube channel, Mike is dedicated to educating individuals and mental health professionals on effective OCD treatment approaches. He is passionate about helping clients understand and overcome obsessional doubt while also training fellow therapists in evidence-based interventions. With a focus on empowering individuals to trust themselves and break free from the cycle of compulsions, Mike continues to be a leading voice in the OCD treatment community. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website   Mike Parker Website  LinkedIn  YouTube Cognitive Therapy for OCD Disclaimer   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Imagine struggling with intrusive thoughts that feel unbearable, unshakable, and all-consuming. You try to fight them, suppress them, or rationalize them away, only to find that they persist, growing stronger with every attempt to resist. But what if the key to managing OCD wasn't in pushing these thoughts away, but rather in changing your relationship with them? In this thought-provoking episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova, LMFT, welcomes Naomi Matlow, a writer, educator, and OCD advocate, to explore how Buddhist psychology offers a fresh perspective on OCD management. Naomi, the author of A Thought is Just a Thought: A Buddhist Guide to OCD, shares how ancient Buddhist teachings on mindfulness, suffering, and attachment can help individuals with OCD develop a new understanding of intrusive thoughts. Together, Kristina and Naomi dive deep into the nature of suffering, the role of acceptance, and practical techniques for navigating intrusive thoughts without letting them define you. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to integrate mindfulness-based approaches into their OCD recovery journey.   In This Episode [00:00:00] Introduction to the episode [00:01:04] Naomi's background and inspiration for writing her book [00:02:33] Understanding OCD through a Buddhist lens [00:04:03] How thoughts are like sensory perceptions [00:05:41] The Western tendency to over-identify with thoughts [00:07:12] The challenge of accepting intrusive thoughts [00:09:56] Clinging, aversion, and the roots of suffering in OCD [00:11:20] The Four Noble Truths and how they relate to OCD [00:13:20] The role of desire and resistance in maintaining suffering [00:16:29] Practical steps to cultivate acceptance and detachment [00:18:35] Shifting focus from thoughts to sensory experiences [00:20:45] Meditation techniques for intrusive thoughts [00:22:14] How to connect with Naomi [00:22:54] Closing remarks Notable Quotes [00:13:00] "An OCD thought is a thought you are not willing to have." – Naomi Matlow [00:07:12] "We tend to put so much weight on the content of our thoughts, but thoughts are just another form of perception—like smelling something bad in the fridge. They don't define who we are." – Naomi Matlow [00:11:20] "Clinging to positive experiences or pushing away negative ones only deepens suffering. Acceptance isn't about approval—it's about allowing reality to be what it is." – Naomi Matlow [00:25:00] "The body is always in the present moment, but the mind is often stuck in the past or worried about the future. That's why grounding in the senses can be so powerful." – Naomi Matlow Our Guest Naomi Matlow is a writer, educator, and OCD advocate based in Southern California. In 2024, she published her creative thesis from Lesley University's Mindfulness Studies Master's program, which evolved into A Thought is Just a Thought: A Buddhist Guide to OCD. Naomi's work integrates Buddhist philosophy, mindfulness, and evidence-based OCD treatment approaches to help individuals develop a healthier relationship with their thoughts.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT Instagram YouTube OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Website Naomi Matlow Instagram Website   Mentioned in This Episode: A Thought is Just a Thought: A Buddhist Guide to OCD by Naomi Matlow ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!  

Imagine this: A bright, capable adult, full of potential, yet paralyzed by the invisible grip of OCD. They live at home, rely on their parents for everything, and seem unable to take the first step toward independence. The parents, heartbroken and exhausted, wonder, “Where did we go wrong? How do we help without hurting?” It's a delicate dance, a tightrope walk between support and enabling, between love and letting go.   In this compelling episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova, LMFT, welcomes Natalia Aiza, LPC, co-founder of Kairos Wellness Collective, for an insightful discussion on the challenges of "failure to launch" among adults with OCD. Together, they explore the complexities of dependency, the role of parental accommodations, and actionable strategies to help individuals with OCD take meaningful steps toward autonomy. Natalia shares her expertise on fostering independence through gradual, supportive approaches while emphasizing the importance of real-world exposure, skill-building, and overcoming the mental barriers that OCD creates. This episode is a must-listen for parents, caregivers, and individuals navigating the journey toward self-reliance. In This Episode [00:00:02] Introduction to the episode [00:01:04] Understanding "failure to launch" [00:02:33] Dependency and OCD [00:04:03] Parental guidance for adult children [00:05:41] Research on dependency [00:07:12] Creating independence plans [00:08:53] Challenges of financial independence [00:09:56] Motivation and comfort zones [00:12:41] Gradual process of change [00:13:20] Long-term parenting goals [00:14:49] Overcoming anticipatory anxiety [00:16:29] Learning new skills [00:18:35] Real-world exposure through jobs [00:19:27] Understanding OCD's impact on progress [00:20:45] The importance of financial independence [00:21:34] Rethinking personal rationalizations [00:21:45] Taking action against OCD [00:22:14] How to connect with Natalia [00:22:54] Closing remarks Notable Quotes [00:03:23] "I have certainly encountered so many families over the years of just practicing and myself treating OCD patients, and a lot of times there is a lot of conversation from family and parents especially of like, what do I do? How do I help?" - Kristina Orlova [00:11:20] "My job is to prepare my children for when I die. If I'm not preparing my children to live on and thrive when I am no longer here, then I am not fulfilling my purpose as a parent." - Natalia Aiza [00:16:29] "Most of the time with OCD, we really have to feel worse before we feel better, and I just want to normalize that feeling of dislike for the process because it is a hard, formative challenge." - Natalia Aiza [00:19:27] "OCD will try to interrupt and get in the way of any progress you are making, and the key is to respect the structure because the structure will immediately give you feedback, and it's feedback that hurts." - Natalia Aiza [00:20:45] "Human beings are notorious for mental gymnastics. We can create so many rationalizations for why not to do something, so it's really important to pause and relook at your own thought process." - Kristina Orlova [00:21:45] "OCD wants us in our heads, feeling like we can think our way out of it, but we can't. Only change and real-world experiences shake up your belief system." - Natalia Aiza Our Guest Natalia Aniela Aíza, LPC, is the founder and executive director of Kairos Wellness Collective, a leading OCD clinic based in Boulder, Colorado. A Harvard graduate and daughter of a political refugee, Natalia brings a unique perspective to mental health care, shaped by her multicultural background and fluency in multiple languages. With a career dedicated to serving diverse communities—including Latinx populations and medically complex children—Natalia is a passionate advocate for social justice and expanding access to effective OCD treatment. Under her leadership, Kairos Wellness Collective has helped over 2,000 clients across four locations. Natalia is also a writer, speaker, and advocate committed to improving mental health care and practitioner competency. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://a.co/d/fMT6vte   Natalia Aiza https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/natalia-aiza https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalia-a%C3%ADza-0a1615174 https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd/   Mentioned  Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner   Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

How well do we really understand the full spectrum of OCD? Many people—including professionals—struggle to recognize the various ways OCD can manifest beyond the commonly known themes. In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova welcomes Dr. Kimberly Glazier Leonte, PhD and Dr. Jacquelin Gouniai, PsyD, LPC, co-founders of The OCD Academy. They introduce the OCD Awareness Scale, a new tool designed to bridge the gap in OCD education by providing a more comprehensive look at the disorder's many forms. Dr. Leonte and Dr. Gouniai discuss their professional experiences with OCD, the challenges of misdiagnosis, and the importance of increasing awareness for individuals, loved ones, and professionals. Dr. Gouniai also shares about her personal experience with OCD. The conversation highlights how their research has led to a scale that not only validates individual experiences but also helps guide effective treatment. Whether you're seeking to understand your own OCD, support a loved one, or improve clinical awareness, this episode provides valuable insights into the ever-evolving landscape of OCD research and treatment. Tune in to discover how the OCD Awareness Scale can help uncover the hidden dimensions of OCD. In This Episode: [00:00:03] Introduction to the OCD Whisperer Podcast [00:01:02] Meet the Guests: Dr. Kimberly Glazier Leonte & Dr. Jacquelin Gouniai [00:02:16] Why OCD Is So Commonly Misdiagnosed [00:03:45] The Role of Research in Expanding OCD Awareness [00:05:32] What Is the OCD Awareness Scale? [00:07:10] Breaking the Stigma: Recognizing Lesser-Known OCD Themes [00:09:05] How the Scale Helps Individuals with OCD [00:10:45] Using the Scale for Loved Ones and Caregivers [00:12:25] How Clinicians Can Use the Scale for Better Diagnosis [00:14:30] OCD in Children: Can Parents Use the Scale? [00:16:00] Jacquelin's Personal Journey with OCD and Misdiagnosis [00:18:20] The Global Need for OCD Education and Accessible Resources [00:20:15] Where to Find the OCD Awareness Scale [00:22:00] Final Thoughts and Resources for Listeners   Notable Quotes: "OCD can really latch onto anything. One of our goals was to create a tool that truly represents the full range of OCD themes and examples, so more people can recognize themselves in it." – Dr. Kimberly Glazier Leonte "If someone doesn't see their symptoms listed in a standard assessment, they might think they don't have OCD at all. Our hope is to make the diagnosis process more inclusive and accessible." – Dr. Jacquelin Gouniai "So many people go to primary care doctors or religious leaders first for help, and unfortunately, many don't recognize OCD when they see it. This scale can help bridge that gap." – Dr. Jacquelin Gouniai "I didn't think I had OCD because I wasn't washing my hands all the time. It took me years to realize my intrusive thoughts and rumination were classic OCD." – Kristina Orlova   Our Guests: Dr. Kimberly Glazier Leonte, PhD Kimberly is a clinical psychologist and co-founder of The OCD Academy. She specializes in OCD research, treatment, and education, focusing on increasing awareness of underrepresented OCD themes. Her research at McLean Hospital helped shape the OCD Awareness Scale, a tool designed to improve identification and treatment. Dr. Jacquelin Gouniai, PsyD, LPC Jacquelin is a licensed clinical psychologist and co-founder of The OCD Academy. With firsthand experience navigating OCD misdiagnosis, she is passionate about increasing OCD education, especially in underserved areas like Guam. Her work aims to improve access to proper OCD treatment and reduce stigma.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://a.co/d/fMT6vte   The OCD Academy https://www.instagram.com/the_ocd_academy/ https://www.theocdacademy.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYWgau435BgPIf0DxZjW6e1kpldpTXf_wNo3bH3Cqh535Z2AtQe6NpSO8c_aem_q6OtBUV2jTmpxx4gLnOQyg  Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!  

Many people struggle to speak up about their mental health needs, even when their treatment isn't working. Why does self-advocacy feel so daunting?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova welcomes Jonathan Teller, a third-year clinical psychology PhD student at Northern Illinois University. Together, they explore the challenges of self-advocacy in healthcare and why it's such an important skill for navigating mental health treatment.   Jonathan shares thoughtful insights on overcoming barriers like fear of judgment or limited resources. From writing down concerns before appointments to involving trusted loved ones in therapy sessions, he offers practical strategies for making your voice heard. If accessing care feels out of reach due to financial or geographical limitations, they discuss creative solutions like self-study tools, free resources, and online communities.   They also dig into the bigger picture: why treatment is just the beginning of the journey and how continued effort, especially after intensive programs, is key to lasting progress.   This episode is packed with actionable advice and compassionate perspectives to empower you to take control of your mental health.   Ready to find your voice and take the next step? Tune in now! In This Episode [00:00:03] Introduction to the podcast [00:01:18] Importance of self-advocacy [00:02:34] Barriers to self-advocacy [00:04:54] Strategies for effective communication [00:07:02] Accessing mental health care [00:10:02] Researching treatment options [00:11:39] Understanding levels of care [00:14:10] Challenges with insurance and treatment [00:15:29] Continuing care after treatment [00:18:09] Balancing family concerns and autonomy [00:18:22] The importance of education in OCD [00:19:35] Exploring treatment options [00:20:36] Flexibility in seeking help [00:22:31] Utilizing digital resources [00:22:59] Recommended podcasts [00:24:13] Feeling connected through stories [00:25:06] Closing remarks and resources   Notable Quotes [00:02:00] "When I think of self-advocacy in healthcare settings, I think, for example, if one is in treatment for mental health and they are receiving a specific type of therapeutic intervention, and that intervention might not be working for them, it could be very difficult for the patient to speak up and say to the clinician, 'Hey, is it possible for us to try a different type of therapy modality?'" - Jonathan Teller   [00:04:00] "I think there are internal and external barriers to self-advocacy. Internal barriers could be anxiety—'If I speak up, maybe I'll insult the therapist'—while external barriers could be family members, insurance, and other systemic factors." - Jonathan Teller   [00:05:00] "One option for patients is to write down their concerns before a session. If they don't feel comfortable sharing them out loud, they can hand the clinician a sheet of paper. That might be easier than speaking directly." - Jonathan Teller   [00:06:00] "I'm a big fan of writing things down. My mom used to prepare pages of questions before seeing her doctor, and I used to make fun of her for it. But in hindsight, I realize how valuable it is—it helps you think through what you want to get out of the appointment." - Kristina Orlova   [00:08:00] "If you have health insurance, you can call your provider and get a list of different clinicians in your area who take your insurance. If you don't, looking for pro bono work or online resources could be a starting point." - Jonathan Teller   [00:13:00] "There's a common misconception that when one goes to a residential treatment facility and they leave, the work is done. But the work has really only started." - Jonathan Teller   [00:17:00] "There's a big misconception that once you complete a treatment program, you're done. But OCD is a lifelong condition, and the real work begins when you leave treatment and start applying the tools in everyday life." - Kristina Orlova   [00:18:00] "Education is critical for both patients and their families. Loved ones often accommodate compulsions because they think it's the right thing to do. But once they understand OCD and how accommodation maintains symptoms, they can start making real changes." - Jonathan Teller Our Guest Jonathan Teller is a third-year clinical psychology PhD student at Northern Illinois University, specializing in the study of anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorders (OCD). His research focuses on uncovering the factors and mechanisms that influence the onset and maintenance of these conditions. With a strong interest in evidence-based practices, Jonathan is dedicated to exploring ways to enhance the effectiveness of cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and exposure and response prevention (ERP) therapy to improve clinical outcomes.   Beyond his research, Jonathan is deeply committed to expanding access to mental health care and breaking down the stigma surrounding mental health. He is a passionate advocate for education and awareness, striving to create a world where mental health care is accessible, equitable, and understood. Jonathan's work bridges the gap between research and practice, aiming to make meaningful contributions to both the scientific community and those seeking support for their mental health.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://a.co/d/fMT6vte Jonathan Teller https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-teller-53276a223 Article Published by University of Richmond 2022 Research Article Published on OCPD Mentioned  Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner OCD Family Podcast Light Up the Couch Podcast The Anxiety Coaches Podcast OCD Stories Podcast Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Did you know that many people with OCD still turn to medication as a first option, even though psychotherapy could be just as effective, if not more so?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina is joined by Dr. Amy Huberman, a psychiatrist specializing in OCD, anxiety, and trauma. Dr. Huberman discusses her journey from prescribing medication to focusing solely on psychotherapy as a way to treat OCD.   In their conversation, Dr. Huberman shares how her initial belief in the necessity of medication shifted after observing the remarkable progress some patients made through intensive cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). She describes how, during her residency at Johns Hopkins, she learned that OCD, anxiety, and depression were often treated with medication, but over time, she began to see the power of psychotherapy in helping patients regain their agency—allowing them to take control of their lives and symptoms.   Dr. Huberman also opens up about her decision to stop prescribing medication and dedicate her practice to providing intensive psychotherapy. She reflects on the benefits and challenges of this decision, emphasizing that therapy, especially tailored CBT techniques, can have a profound and lasting impact on patients.   This episode offers insight into a psychiatric professional's personal and professional journey toward providing more holistic and individualized care. Whether you're struggling with OCD yourself or working in the mental health field, this conversation is a deep dive into the evolving treatment options for OCD and anxiety. In This Episode [00:01:00] Meet Dr. Huberman [00:01:36] Medication debate [00:02:07] Dr. Huberman's decision to focus on psychotherapy. [00:02:48] Residency training influence [00:04:48] Experiencing recovery through therapy [00:05:47] Understanding agency [00:06:56] Realization about treatment [00:07:32] Pursuit of psychotherapy [00:08:34] Initial practice approach [00:10:21] Challenges with medication [00:12:04] Therapy's effectiveness [00:14:34] Pandemic impact on practice [00:16:07] Learning new approaches [00:16:37] Embracing psychotherapy [00:18:09] Understanding and acceptance [00:20:08] Key elements for self-acceptance [00:22:21] The paradoxical agenda-setting [00:23:03] Facing fears and self-identity [00:23:58] Finding Dr. Huberman [00:24:23] Closing remarks and resources   Notable Quotes [00:02:48] "So I trained at Johns Hopkins, and there the message was very strong. Exactly what that person said in that comment is that everyone with OCD or anxiety disorders or depression should receive medication." - Dr. Amy Huberman [00:04:48] “I saw patients fully getting their lives back, really recovering in a sustained and full way, that was in the few months when I received some training in cognitive behavioral therapy.” - Dr. Amy Huberman [00:08:34] “So when I left residency and sort of started my own practice, I, you know, despite the fact that I was already so excited about psychotherapy and questioning a little bit, at least the message that I had taken away from my training of medication must always be a part of treating somebody with OCD or anxiety." - Dr. Amy Huberman [00:14:34] “The things that people were telling me was most helpful to them were not actually the medication pieces but the psychotherapy, which has honestly always been the part that I really loved about working with patients.” - Dr. Amy Huberman [00:21:38] “Understanding what our symptoms say about us, reveal about us, that's actually really important and positive.” - Dr. Amy Huberman [00:23:03] “When I hold a knife up to my loved one's neck and I don't do the thing that I think I'm going to do, that process itself can reveal, 'Oh right, this is actually the person I am, somebody who would never want to do that.'” - Dr. Amy Huberman   Our Guest Dr. Amy Huberman, a skilled psychiatrist on the volunteer faculty at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, brings her expertise to individuals through private practice in Maryland. Specializing in individually tailored psychotherapy and coaching, she focuses on treating OCD, anxiety, and trauma, offering a refreshing break from the traditional 15-minute session model. Dr. Huberman's approach is personalized and intensive, allowing for deep healing. While her psychotherapy services are available to those in Maryland, her coaching extends globally, empowering clients worldwide to overcome challenges and thrive.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/   Dr. Amy Huberman https://www.amyhubermanmd.com/   Mentioned  Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner   Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Ever had a moment where you felt like something bad would happen unless you did a specific thing—like touching a door handle just right or counting to a certain number? Now imagine that feeling controlling your every action, from the smallest decisions to the biggest ones. This is what life is like for those with magical thinking OCD. But how can you tell the difference between these intense fears and harmless superstitions? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina sits down with Dr. Regina Lazarovich, a clinical psychologist and founder of Compass CBT to talk about magical thinking OCD. They explore how this subtype of OCD involves irrational beliefs that certain thoughts or actions can influence outcomes. Dr. Lazarovich distinguishes it from cultural superstitions and discusses its impact on daily life. She outlines treatment approaches, including Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) and Inference-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (IB-CBT). The episode emphasizes understanding and compassion in managing OCD, offering hope and practical guidance for those affected. In This Episode [00:00:01] Introduction to magical thinking OCD   [00:02:15] Understanding magical thinking OCD   [00:03:44] Examples of magical thinking OCD   [00:05:17] Distinction between superstitions and OCD   [00:06:01] Impact on functioning and quality of life   [00:08:08] Urgency in OCD compulsions   [00:10:06] Internal vs. external compulsions   [00:10:59] Treatment options for magical thinking OCD   [00:11:34] Explaining exposure and response prevention   [00:14:15] Cognitive behavioral therapy for OCD   [00:16:29] Tracing the origin of OCD compulsions   [00:17:32] Addressing the possibility of harm   [00:19:06] Relevance of possibility in OCD   [00:19:15] Understanding Inference in OCD   [00:20:55] The role of personal experience   [00:22:01] Contextual factors in OCD   [00:23:25] Belief formation in OCD   [00:25:00] Complexity of OCD treatment   [00:26:14] Compassion in therapy   [00:27:06] Finding the right treatment   [00:28:08] Connecting with Dr. Regina Lazarovich   Notable Quotes [00:07:22] “It's not about the superstition itself but the intense fear and urgency. With OCD, it's like something catastrophic will happen if the ritual isn't done.” -Kristina  [00:13:37] “In ERP, we face the fear systematically, like writing the lyrics of an 'unlucky' song, then listening to it, all while not engaging in compulsions. It's about regaining control over life.” - Dr. Regina Lazarovich  [00:16:29] “With ICBT, we trace back to when the compulsion started. It's often rooted in something deeply understandable, like a childhood fear. Once we understand it, we stop falling for OCD's 'trick.'” - Dr. Regina Lazarovich [00:19:15] “An inference is an educated guess based on evidence. With OCD, we over-rely on possibility and dismiss actual evidence. Slowing down can help us make better-informed conclusions.” - Kristina [00:27:49] “It's not about making OCD disappear but transforming your relationship with it. You learn to live your life without letting it dictate your every move.”- Kristina   Our Guest Dr. Regina Lazarovich is a clinical psychologist and the founder of Compass CBT, where she serves clients across California, Florida, and New York. With a deep commitment to helping individuals struggling with anxiety, panic attacks, OCD, perfectionism, disordered eating, and body image issues, she utilizes evidence-based practices like CBT and ACT. Dr. Lazarovich approaches therapy with a Health at Every Size perspective, particularly for clients dealing with food and body image challenges. Her compassionate, client-centered approach fosters lasting change and personal growth. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Dr. Regina Lazarovich https://www.compasscbt.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/regina-lazarovich Mentioned  Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Overbaugh ICBT with Kristina Orlova and Christina Ennabe OCD CBT Journal Tracker and Planner Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

What if the secret to overcoming OCD and mental health challenges isn't just about managing symptoms, but truly understanding the whole person—mind, body, and spirit? Can therapy that treats us as a complete individual really lead to healing? Ever considered the role psychedelics, like ketamine, could play in mental health care? Or maybe a holistic approach to therapy is the game-changer you've been looking for but didn't know you needed?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we're excited to welcome Christina Ennabe back to the show! If you missed her last appearance, go back and check it out—her insights are something you won't want to miss. Christina Ennabe and host Kristina Orlova dive deep into their personal and professional journeys with OCD and mental health. They talk about the life-changing effects of EMDR therapy, why it's essential to address comorbidities, and their explorations with psychedelic-assisted therapy. Kristina opens up about her journey through grief and spirituality, while Christina shares her recovery story and recent EMDR training. Together, they explore a holistic approach to mental health, offering valuable insights and encouragement for anyone facing their challenges.   Tune in now to hear this powerful conversation, and if you haven't already, make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode filled with practical tools for your mental health journey!   In This Episode [00:00:03] Introduction to the episode [00:00:55] Updates from Christina [00:01:26] Exploring EMDR therapy [00:01:54] Life-changing aspects of EMDR [00:03:57] Clarifying EMDR's role in OCD treatment [00:05:07] Holistic view of mental health [00:06:56] Introduction to psychedelic-assisted therapy [00:09:55] Personal reflections on loss and purpose [00:11:49] Christina's experience with ayahuasca [00:12:53] Navigating the experience of psychedelics [00:15:05] Surrendering to the process [00:16:22] Christina's struggles with control during therapy [00:18:40] The impact of loss on coping mechanisms [00:19:56] Navigating grief and emotional release [00:21:08] Feeling to heal in EMDR therapy [00:22:26] Spirituality and personal journey [00:24:25] The role of spirituality in OCD recovery [00:25:46] Staying curious and open [00:26:37] Sharing personal experiences [00:27:25] Finding resources and support   Notable Quotes [00:02:40] “I felt like maybe that's a missing piece of the puzzle, so I reached out, found an EMDR therapist, and did a nine-hour intensive over two days. It was so different from any other therapy I've ever done.” - Christina Ennabe   [00:10:12] “I lost my mom to cancer this year. It was July 31st. It's been quite a year, and it really made me question, what's the point. What's the purpose?” - Kristina Orlova   [00:18:40] “Once you have a loss, that's it. You can't undo anything. You're put in a position where you have no option but to go through the experience.” - Kristina Orlova   [00:19:56] “I have to let the feelings and all the things go through my body because they're there. I can't deny them. The more I push them off, it's just going to prolong the process.” - Kristina Orlova   [00:21:08] “You have to feel to heal and create that space and container to just feel. Get out of your head and into your body.” - Christina Ennabe Our Guest Christina Ennabe is a licensed therapist and coach specializing in OCD, anxiety, and trauma. With a compassionate, holistic approach, she offers online therapy and coaching to high achievers, helping them overcome mental health struggles like perfectionism and self-doubt. Using evidence-based methods such as I-CBT, ERP, EMDR, and ACT, Christina empowers clients to find confidence, reclaim control, and achieve lasting recovery. She serves clients in New Hampshire, Maine, Florida, and globally through her coaching programs. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Christina Ennabe https://www.christinaennabe.com/ https://www.instagram.com/christinacounsels/   Mentioned  Sneaky Rituals with Jenna Bell CBT Masterclass with Kristina and Christina Ennabe Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

When we think about Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), common themes like contamination fears or checking rituals often come to mind. However, there is another form of OCD—"Just Right OCD"—which centers on achieving an elusive sense of balance or correctness. In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova sits down with Andrew Cohen, a licensed marriage and family therapist and OCD specialist, to explore the nuanced experience of Just Right OCD. Andrew draws from both his personal and professional journeys to discuss the challenges and breakthroughs in managing this subtype of OCD. Together, they dive into the role of mindfulness, acceptance, and exposure therapy in fostering resilience and balance for individuals with Just Right OCD. Tune in to gain actionable strategies for coping with Just Right OCD and learn how mindfulness and self-awareness can lead to meaningful change.   In This Episode [00:00:00] Introduction to Andrew Cohen and his experience with OCD [00:01:15] What is Just Right OCD? [00:02:48] Differentiating Just Right OCD from Perfectionism [00:05:11] Compulsions and the pursuit of balance [00:09:10] Recognizing OCD in uncommon themes [00:13:51] Key signs of OCD to look out for [00:19:31] Tools to handle Just Right OCD [00:22:13] The importance of mindfulness and acceptance [00:27:06] Learning to coexist with contradictory emotions [00:32:47] Resources for OCD support Notable Quotes [00:18:13] “Awareness allows us to notice the discomfort, but attention is what empowers us to focus on what truly matters.” – Andrew Cohen [00:01:15] “It's not about catastrophic fears—it's about feeling right, and tolerating the discomfort of being off.” - Andrew Cohen [00:10:14] “If you feel urgency and there's no real danger, chances are it's OCD knocking.” - Andrew Cohen Our Guest Andrew Cohen is a dedicated OCD and Anxiety specialist with extensive training and a wealth of professional and personal experience dealing with OCD. As a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and a board member (Treasurer) of OCD SoCal, Andrew is deeply committed to providing effective treatment and providing advocacy and community building to individuals suffering from OCD and related disorders.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Andrew Cohen  www.cohenocdtherapy.com  https://www.instagram.com/cohenocdtherapy/   Mentioned  OCD SoCal: www.ocdsocal.org International OCD Foundation: www.iocdf.org   Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

When we think about Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), our minds often go straight to the difficulties it brings—the obsessive thoughts and compulsive actions that can disrupt daily life. But what if there's a side of OCD that's rarely discussed, one that offers unique strengths?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Dr. Michael Alcée, a clinical psychologist and mental health educator at the Manhattan School of Music, helps us rethink our view of OCD. Through insights from his forthcoming book, The Upside of OCD, Dr. Alcée shares how the intense emotional sensitivity and vivid imagination often seen in individuals with OCD can be seen as valuable assets rather than limitations.   Together, Dr. Alcée and Kristina dive deep into the heart of OCD, exploring how understanding the emotional roots behind its symptoms can foster greater self-awareness and more compassionate self-care. Dr. Alcée discusses how setting healthy boundaries and embracing one's unique traits can lead to a more balanced, fulfilling life, shifting the focus from “disorder” to the richness of experience that OCD may offer.   Tune in to gain a compassionate new outlook on OCD, and if this resonates, don't forget to subscribe and share with others who might need a fresh perspective! In This Episode [01:12] Introduction to Dr. Michael Alcée [02:06] The upside of OCD [02:58] Emotional sensitivity and imagination in OCD [03:19] Understanding OCD symptoms [04:18] The role of feelings in OCD [05:11] Nuanced emotional awareness [06:16] Imagination and the OCD mind [07:21] Case study: Navigating driving fear [08:28] Contextualizing different aspects of OCD [09:34] The richness of the OCD mind [10:38] Exploring ERP and exposure exercises [11:32] Differences in managing OCD feelings [12:04] Balancing loss and love in OCD [13:30] The nature of compulsions [15:12] Coping with emotional overextension [16:04] Understanding underlying stress causes [17:08] Recognizing the importance of conflict awareness [18:10] OCD's distraction mechanism [19:02] Nurturing boundaries for emotional health [20:17] Reclaiming healthy agency and empowerment [24:19] Mindfulness and self-reflection [25:16] Self-awareness for personal growth [27:06] The poet's soul Notable Quotes [02:06] “We don't focus enough on the person who has OCD; we focus a lot on the disorder. The upside is this wonderful kind of spark of emotional sensitivity and imaginative range.” - Dr. Michael Alcée [04:18] “Most people with OCD feel so much, but they don't have someone to help them mirror it back. By the time they catch up with it, it's already converted itself into all these terrible obsessions and compulsions.” - Dr. Michael Alcée [12:38] “People with OCD have a precocious existential sensitivity. They notice death way earlier, and it's almost like they never had the language to understand it. I want to highlight and celebrate that rich capacity to live.” - Dr. Michael Alcée [17:59] “When I realized I wasn't listening to my feelings, the obsession melted away.” - Dr. Michael Alcée [22:17] “People with OCD have an extremely enormous heart, but they don't always trust it and give it away too easily.” - Dr. Michael Alcée [27:06] “I want people with OCD to realize that they have poet souls.” - Dr. Michael Alcée Our Guest Dr. Michael Alcée is a clinical psychologist and mental health educator at the Manhattan School of Music in New York. Known for his innovative approach, he blends psychology with artistry, encouraging clients to see mental health as a creative process. His book Therapeutic Improvisation explores how therapists interact with clients like jazz musicians, and his upcoming work, The Upside of OCD, redefines OCD as a unique sensitivity. Dr. Alcée's insights have been featured in outlets like Psychology Today, NPR, and the New York Times, enriching our emotional and existential awareness understanding. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Dr. Michael Alcee https://michaelalcee.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-alcee-14417755/ https://www.instagram.com/mike_drop_/ https://www.facebook.com/livelifecreatively2/   Mentioned  Therapeutic Improvisation: How to Stop Winging It and Own It as a Therapist The Upside of OCD: Flip the Script to Reclaim Your Life Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever struggled with feelings of guilt, shame, or an overwhelming need to "do the right thing"? For individuals experiencing moral scrupulosity, a subset of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), this focus on morality can become a debilitating cycle of self-doubt and fixation on being a "good person." In this episode, host Kristina Orlova welcomes Dr. Rachel LaFleur, a licensed psychologist specializing in OCD and telehealth services, to explore this often misunderstood OCD theme. Together, they uncover the roots of moral scrupulosity, how it can intersect with other OCD types like contamination and "just right" OCD, and the psychological impact of this fixation on morality. Dr. LaFleur also shares practical advice on accessible treatment pathways, including self-help resources, therapy groups, and ways to find affordable OCD care. Tune in to learn how to build self-compassion, recognize OCD's influence on morality, and access valuable tools for managing these thoughts.   In This Episode [00:00] Introduction to Dr. Rachel LaFleur and her work in OCD therapy [02:34] Understanding moral scrupulosity in OCD [04:05] How moral scrupulosity overlaps with other OCD themes [06:12] Examples of everyday challenges for individuals with moral scrupulosity [10:15] Accessible self-help resources for OCD [12:38] Importance of self-reflection and flexibility in managing OCD [14:22] Finding affordable therapy options and support groups [19:02] Dr. LaFleur's message of hope for those experiencing OCD   Notable Quotes [04:43] "People with moral scrupulosity OCD often experience intense guilt over minor actions, believing they might reflect a flaw in their character." – Dr. Rachel LaFleur [09:57] "Being hyper-vigilant about morality can lead people to overlook their actual values, impacting relationships and self-worth." – Dr. Rachel LaFleur [20:26] "OCD can cloud our view of who we are. But through treatment, many people reconnect with their authentic, compassionate selves." – Dr. Rachel LaFleur   Our Guest Dr. Rachel LaFleur is a licensed psychologist based in Maryland, offering telehealth services for children, adolescents, and adults across multiple states. With a passion for evidence-based treatments, Dr. LaFleur works flexibly with clients to uncover and address the complex facets of OCD. She believes in a patient-centered approach that fosters both critical self-reflection and community support, empowering individuals to reclaim their lives from OCD. Website: stonyrunpsych.com  https://www.abct.org/self-help-book-recommendations/ Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/     Dr. Rachel LaFleur https://stonyrunpsych.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-lafleur-ph-d-73735056 Disclaimer   Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!  

Are you aware that the struggle with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and eating disorders often go hand in hand, creating a complex web of challenges for those affected? Imagine grappling with the relentless pressure to control your environment while simultaneously battling intense fears surrounding food and body image. How does this intricate interplay shape the experiences of individuals living with these conditions?   In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Elian Beattie, a licensed clinical mental health counselor and Insight Mental Health Group owner. We explore the intricate relationship between OCD and eating disorders, discussing their prevalence, overlapping symptoms, and psychological factors. Elian highlights the importance of recognizing this overlap for effective treatment. We delve into motivations behind restrictive eating behaviors, manifestations of anorexia and bulimia, and the concept of orthorexia. Elian provides practical strategies for managing these conditions, emphasizing value-driven actions and addressing fears of weight gain to foster a fulfilling life.   Don't miss this enlightening discussion that could change how you understand and approach these intertwined conditions. Tune in to gain valuable insights and practical tools for healing.   In This Episode [00:44] Introduction to Elian Beattie [01:33] Prevalence of OCD and eating disorders [02:34] Impact of OCD on eating disorders [03:30] Effects of eating disorders on OCD [04:28] Identifying OCD and eating disorders [06:00] Understanding restrictive eating [08:01] Manifestations of anorexia and bulimia [09:34] Origins of eating disorders [10:40] Internalizing vs. externalizing issues [12:01] Self-help strategies for overlapping disorders [14:42] Addressing fears of weight gain [15:54] Closing remarks and resources Notable Quotes [01:56] “When you treat OCD, you're probably going to have at least 1 in 5 of your clients also have an eating disorder.”- Elian [03:44] “Having an eating disorder when you have OCD can really reinforce rumination and cyclical thinking, worsening OCD symptoms too”- Elian  [09:53] "Eating disorders are not about thinness. They often stem from deeper issues like attachment, self-esteem, and trauma." -Elian [15:29]  “Take a chance on it because it is worth it. If you can grow your life and build your identity outside of an eating disorder or OCD, then you're going to be building up who you already are at any size.”- Elian. Our Guest Elian M. Beattie, MS, LMHC, is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor and Insights Group Mental Health Therapy practice owner in Rhine, New Hampshire. Specializing in OCD, eating disorders, body image issues, and anxiety, Elian offers individualized, evidence-based treatments, including CBT, ERP, and ACT. Known for a genuine and compassionate approach, Elian provides unconditional support while holding clients accountable. Passionate about social justice and HAES principles, Elian empowers clients to challenge limiting patterns and embrace their strengths. Elian also volunteers on the Executive Board of OCD New Hampshire, furthering their commitment to mental health advocacy. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Elian Beattie https://www.insightmentalhealthgroup.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/elian-beattie-b7789684/ https://www.instagram.com/elianinsights/?hl=en   Disclaimer Please note while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever had thoughts so disturbing they make you doubt yourself? Pedophilia OCD (POCD) can bring intrusive fears that aren't reflective of who you are—so let's clear the air: having POCD isn't the same as having pedophilia. Curious how this all works and how you can break free from its grip? In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are thrilled to welcome Rachel Tombaugh, a psychotherapist who specializes in OCD and anxiety. Today, we discuss the complexities of Pedophilia OCD (POCD), a specific and often misunderstood subtype of OCD. We explore the distress it causes and the misconceptions surrounding it. POCD involves intrusive and unwanted thoughts about inappropriate sexual behavior toward children—thoughts that do not reflect the individual's true desires or intentions. Rachel explains how these distressing thoughts create significant inner turmoil and highlights the importance of specialized treatments, such as cognitive behavioral therapy and exposure and response prevention. This episode aims to dispel misconceptions, reduce stigma, and provide hope by offering resources for additional support.   In This Episode [00:43] Introduction to Rachel Tombaugh [01:57] Discussion on pedophilia OCD (POCD) [02:45] Public misunderstanding of POCD [04:40] Ego-dystonic vs. ego-syntonic thoughts [06:38] The distress of OCD sufferers [09:15] Rachel's explanation of OCD [12:31] Nature vs. nurture in OCD [14:16] Developmental triggers for OCD [15:31] Societal opinions on sexual themes in OCD [16:14] The link between OCD and feelings of depression [18:01] Information seeking vs. reassurance seeking [18:30] How OCD can distort self-identity [18:49] Treatment options for OCD [19:38] Resources for OCD treatment   Notable Quotes [02:55] “In the general public, it is a lesser-known form of OCD. It's actually really, really common.”- Rachel [05:43]  “The thought is distressing. The thought is scary. It might feel shameful or disgusting. It is not something that the person is thinking on purpose.”- Rachel [18:49] “The first thing that I want people to understand about this form of OCD, as with any other subtype, is that this is a treatable condition, and there are people who have the knowledge and the training to help you and to help you feel better and get your life back" Rachel [20:02] ''It's always so important that people with OCD find their way to an OCD specialist. This is a very treatable condition.”-Rachel   Our Guest Rachel Tombaugh is a psychotherapist in private practice in Scottsdale, Arizona, specializing in OCD, anxiety disorders, panic disorder, and trauma. She delivers transformative results with advanced training in cognitive behavioral therapy, exposure, response prevention, and inference-based CBT. Rachel lives in the Sonoran Desert with her family, horse Gabriel, and a menagerie of beloved pets. Her clinical expertise and personalized approach ensure effective and meaningful treatment for her clients. Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Rachel Tombaugh https://ocdandptsdtherapy.com/ https://web.facebook.com/OCDandPTSDTherapy/?_rdc=1&_rdr   Disclaimer Please note that while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

People with OCD often feel trapped by strict rules in their daily lives. These unwritten rules might mean always trying to control their thoughts, constantly seeking certainty, seeing anxiety as a sign of immediate danger, feeling personally responsible for preventing harm, analyzing every thought meticulously, striving for perfection in everything, and keeping their struggle with OCD hidden from others. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with  Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans, a licensed professional counselor and licensed marriage and family therapist with over 20 years of experience. Dr. Evans is  the author of "Breaking the Rules of OCD: Find Lasting Freedom from the Unwanted Thoughts, Rituals, and Compulsions that Rule Your Life," During the conversation, Dr. Evans discusses treating OCD and anxiety disorders, focusing on the core issue of agency loss. She emphasizes that individuals with OCD often feel compelled to perform rituals, believing they lack choice, and advises recognizing one's agency to make different choices. Her book outlines seven rules to break OCD's grip, including challenging perfectionism, embracing uncertainty, and addressing discomfort intolerance. The episode also clarifies ERP therapy misconceptions and normalizes setbacks as growth opportunities. Dr. Evans introduces Aikido principles as a metaphor for managing OCD triggers, advocating redirecting energy rather than confrontation. She concludes with the "PASSION" acronym: Pause, Pivot, and Proceed; Accept Experiences; Strengthen Your Stance; Practice Self-Compassion; Invite Exposure; Observe Thoughts; and Stay Present. These principles help individuals build resilience and live fulfilling lives free from OCD constraints.   In This Episode [01:23] The motivation behind writing her book  [02:32] The seven rules of OCD [04:11] Common misconceptions about OCD [05:37] Blending therapy approaches in the book [07:08] Challenges and relapses in OCD treatment [08:38] Making therapy accessible [10:15] Mindfulness and agency in OCD treatment [13:42] Mindfulness during exposure [18:23] The power of mindfulness [20:32] The most important rule to break [21:29] The resistance battle [23:03] Aikido principles [26:31] Passion acronym Notable Quotes [04:11] “There have been many tears of relief shed in my office when people find out that they're not broken.”- Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans [10:57] “We all want to feel good and we all want to do things that will help us feel better.” Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans [17:37]  “If people can get in touch with what a chore it is to do the compulsion, then that's an incentive to not resist so much but actually to learn to allow.” Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans [21:29] “'What you resist keeps persisting. It's a counterintuitive thing, and when you resist, you can notice this battle within yourself.”-Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans [23:03]  “If you notice that OCD trigger, rather than going straight into the compulsion, pause and say, "I have an opportunity to learn here."' Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans [26:31]  “You can live your life with passion even though OCD shows up sometimes.” Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans   Our Guest Dr. Kim Rockwell-Evans, PhD, LPC, LMFT, has specialized in anxiety and OCD treatment in Dallas for 30+ years. Recognized throughout North Texas and Oklahoma, she integrates cutting-edge therapies like CBT and ACT to empower patients to confront fears and lead fulfilling lives, offering practical, evidence-based solutions for lasting results.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com    Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans https://ocdanxietydallas.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimrockwellevans https://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094019790453&_rdc=1&_rdr   Mentioned Breaking the Rules of OCD" by Dr. Kim Rockwell Evans The Miracle of Mindfulness" by Thich Nhat Hanh   Disclaimer Please note, that while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Is it possible that the meticulous and often relentless nature of OCD could fuel the creative genius behind some of the most iconic music in the industry? In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Tyler Falcoa, an indie pop artist, music producer, and mixed engineer, discusses the intricate relationship between creativity and obsessive-compulsive Disorder (OCD). Tyler, who has managed OCD since the age of ten, shares his journey, coping mechanisms, and the impact of OCD on his creative process. Tyler shares how his OCD, triggered by traumatic events, impacts his creativity and daily life. He discusses the importance of structure in his work, the challenges of self-doubt, and the role of social media in finding support. Tyler highlights the duality of OCD, acknowledging both its debilitating effects and its contribution to his strengths. The episode concludes with messages of hope and resources for managing OCD.   In This Episode [00:43]- Introduction to Tyler Falcao [01:15]- How OCD impacts creativity  [05:48]- Tyler's early trauma and OCD   [10:37] - Tyler on his journey to discovering OCD   [11:25] - Social media and learning about OCD [12:28] - Managing OCD in creative work   [16:05] - Mentorship and examples   [17:14] - Creativity and OCD   [19:05] - Positive aspects of OCD   [21:20] -Tyler's message of hope   Notable Quotes [10:06] “You have these intense bouts of emotions that just rip you, and this gridlock in thoughts that are racing at the speed of light, and you just can't figure out what's up or down or left or right" Tyler Falcoa [08:34] “I unfortunately did ERP by myself before I started seeing my current therapist, which made things much worse for me.”-Tyler Falcao [13:10] "I had to be able to work through my OCD and the intrusive thoughts, and the fact that my mother was in the hospital while also trying to write a song for my job.'Tyler Falcoa [17:24] "'For me, my OCD has been debilitating and part of very dark times in my life. But I am extremely dependable, very prompt, and extremely organized. That is my way of control for my life."Tyler Falcoa [18:43] "No matter where you are in your OCD journey, it is absolutely possible to get to a place where it becomes more manageable.” Tyler Falcoa   Our Guest Tyler Falcao, also known by his stage name TY Falcao, is an indie pop artist, music producer, and mix engineer. Rising to prominence as part of the brother duo Tyler and Ryan, Tyler has managed OCD since he was ten years old, triggered by a traumatic football injury and a house fire. Despite these challenges, he has turned his experiences into a source of strength. Through his music and podcast, "Please Excuse My OCD," Tyler shares insights and coping mechanisms, offering a unique perspective on living with OCD.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Tyler Falcoa https://www.instagram.com/TylerFalcoa/ https://www.tiktok.com/@tylerfalcoa?lang=en https://web.facebook.com/OfficialTylerFalcoa/?_rdc=1&_rdr   Mentioned Podcast: Please excuse my OCD   Disclaimer Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for biweekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever considered the impact of accurate diagnosis, effective treatment, and community advocacy on the well-being of individuals struggling with mental health conditions such as Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder (DPDR)? Understanding the significance of these factors can make a profound difference in the lives of those grappling with these conditions. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast,  we are joined by Elysse Lescarbeau, known as OCD.or.just.me on Instagram, to discuss her journey with OCD and Depersonalization/Derealization Disorder (DPDR). Elysse's story is a powerful testament to the importance of accurate diagnosis, effective treatment, and the role of community and advocacy in mental health. During the conversation, Elysse shares her journey of being diagnosed with OCD in September 2022 after years of struggling with depersonalization and derealization (DPDR). She discusses how exposure and response prevention (ERP) and acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) have been pivotal in her treatment. Elysse emphasizes the importance of understanding the anxiety cycle, living by one's values, and the role of self-compassion in overcoming setbacks. She also highlights her advocacy work and introduces new resources for managing anxiety.   In This Episode [01:41] Elysse's thoughts on OCD treatment and recovery [05:36] Understanding the anxiety cycle [08:43] Incorporating values and ACT [13:48] Managing anxiety and building resilience [16:34] The realization of DP/DR [17:37] Discovering OCD and DP/DR [18:41] The power of representation [19:42] Advocacy work and awareness [21:06] Resources for help and education   Notable Quotes [10:06] "When you are able to live by your values, your life becomes so much bigger, your life becomes so much more meaningful. You feel like you can take on the world and actually be the person that you want to be."- Elysse Lescarbeau [12:50] "You have to have that willingness to just go into these situations and say, yeah, I will be anxious and that's okay. It doesn't need to control me."- Elysse Lescarbeau [17:24] "I think, the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced in my life, just the fear of, for me, the way it manifested was literally losing my personality."- Elysse Lescarbeau [18:43] "Getting the OCD diagnosis, realizing that was something I had and could be treated, but then also seeing that DPDR was a thing that affected so many people and that it wasn't just me because I was crazy, was mind-blowing."- Elysse Lescarbeau [19:55] "The advocacy work that so many more people are now doing through Instagram, TikTok, whatever it might be, is so important because you can realize within yourself, like, wow, this isn't just me and my crazy mind; this is something other people experience, and I can get help for it."- Elysse Lescarbeau   Our Guest Elysse Lescarbeau (@ocd.or.just.me) brings a wealth of personal experience with mental health issues and diagnoses. For a long time, she struggled in silence, unaware that her obsessive thoughts and mental compulsions were symptoms of OCD—she believed they were simply part of who she was. It wasn't until a year after being hospitalized for suicidal ideation that she received a long-overdue OCD diagnosis and began appropriate treatment. Now, Elysse is dedicated to sharing the knowledge she wished she had during her journey. She aims to educate others on the diverse presentations of OCD, which often differ from common media portrayals, and to highlight how gold-standard therapy techniques can address more than just acute symptoms. Elysse's mission is to demonstrate that recovery and a less anxious life are truly possible.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Elysse Lescarbeau https://www.instagram.com/ocd.or.just.me/ https://stan.store/ocdorjustme Mentioned Book: Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life The Values in Action Digital Workbook Disclaimer Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Parenting can be really hard when your child is dealing with anxiety or OCD. Ever stayed up late worrying about them? It feels like a big, confusing maze, doesn't it? But don't worry, you're not alone. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast,  we are thrilled to sit down with Dr. Stephen Whiteside, a renowned clinical psychologist and a beacon of hope for families grappling with childhood anxiety and OCD. During the conversation we talk about his book "Anxiety Coach" and his specialized approach to treating childhood anxiety and OCD. We explore the importance of exposure therapy, the role of parents in treatment, and the challenges of diagnosing OCD in children. Dr. Whiteside shares insights on the stigma surrounding OCD and the benefits of group therapy, while emphasizing privacy in group settings. He discusses the effectiveness of his parent coach exposure therapy, citing research and positive outcomes from the Mayo Clinic's intensive treatment program. Resources and support options are highlighted, including the Anxiety Coach at Mayo Clinic website, which offers educational tools and details about their five-day intensive program. The episode concludes with encouragement for those on their journey to overcoming OCD.   In This Episode [01:11] The Anxiety Coach Book [02:07] Differences in approach [04:13] Components of the approach [07:40] Content of the book [08:32] Identifying anxiety disorders [10:39] Signs in pediatric population [12:25] Challenges in diagnosing OCD [14:56] Therapist misinterpretation of OCD [16:00] Stigma and judgment [16:59] Benefits of group therapy [18:34] Outcomes of parent-coached exposures [21:14] Empowering families   Notable Quotes [02:11] "The main component of the treatment for anxiety or OCD is helping kids learn through their own experience that what they're afraid of is unlikely to happen, and they can handle feeling nervous, worried, or uncomfortable until those feelings go away."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside [03:08] "We think that all kids will be more successful if they have someone to help them at home, and parents want to know what to do to be helpful."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside [09:55] "When fears and worries are excessive to the point that they're making life hard, distressing the child, or getting in the way of the parents' life, that's the time we need to start working on it."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside [16:59] "It's like this happens often enough that somebody wrote it down in a book, so I am clearly not the only one."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside [18:34] "We have some pretty good answers to that, but a lot more research needs to be done in general around child mental health."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside [21:14] "It's obvious to me that parents can learn to do this, and kids and parents can learn to do this together."- Dr. Stephen Whiteside   Our Guest Dr. Stephen Whiteside is a Board Certified Licensed Clinical Psychologist and Associate Professor of Psychology at Mayo Clinic College of Medicine, directs the Child and Adolescent Anxiety Disorders Program. With extensive experience in treating child, adolescent, and adult anxiety disorders, he's received grants from the Obsessive-Compulsive Foundation for neuroimaging studies on OCD. Dr. Whiteside's research focuses on childhood anxiety and treatment efficacy, reflected in numerous publications and national presentations.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Stephen Whiteside https://www.mayoclinic.org/biographies/whiteside-stephen-p-ph-d-l-p/bio-20054748 Mentioned Book: Anxiety Coach: A Parent's Guide to Treating Childhood Anxiety and OCD Website: https://anxietycoach.mayoclinic.org/     **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to have a loved one - your sister, brother, or daughter - battling with intrusive thoughts and engaging in relentless rituals due to OCD? How can families effectively provide the necessary support to help them navigate OCD's grip on their daily lives?  In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast,  we have the pleasure of conversing with an extraordinary young author, Ella Kim, whose personal story and literary contributions are making waves in the world of mental health advocacy. Ella Kim is a high school student who has authored "How to Defeat Bully Brain," a book that serves as a beacon of hope for children and families grappling with OCD.Ella's motivation to pen this book was deeply personal; her brother's diagnosis with OCD at a tender age was the catalyst that propelled her into action. In our conversation, Ella discusses her brother's struggle with OCD, the impact on her family, and the importance of proper support and understanding. She shares her family's journey, including her brother's improvement after a gap year program abroad. Ella also talks about her nonprofit, “OCD Detectives” and her upcoming book on various OCD manifestations.    In This Episode [01:35] - The idea behind writing the book. [02:04] - Navigating OCD as a family [03:11] - Challenges and frustration [06:12] - Impact on the family [08:02] - Creating a story about OCD [09:59] - The staircase method [11:15] - Spreading awareness through a book [12:11] - Different types of obsessions and compulsions [14:31] - Understanding the changing nature of OCD [15:30] - Defining OCD [16:43] - Recovery and struggle [18:06] - Tools and understanding [18:30] - Contact information   Notable Quotes [02:07]” I went into this deep dive and I kind of looked at OCD resources out there, and I found that there weren't that many children's books that were like workbooks that kind of went into how to deal with your OCD.” -Ella [05:16] “There's times when your OCD is worse and when it's better. And so sometimes when just OCD would be worse, it would kind of impact the entire family." -Ella [06:12] "Initially, everyone got frustrated because of the mess, but then you have to look past that and realize that he just needs more help rather than getting mad at him." Ella [07:14] "Remind them constantly to say no to OCD and give them reasons why, like not having to spend hours a day washing your hands or not feeling uncomfortable for over half the day." -Ella [17:36] "During his gap year, even without active therapy, being preoccupied with volunteer work abroad helped him improve significantly."-Ella   Our Guest Ella Kim, a high school student from New York City, has a keen interest in psychology and the treatment of mental and behavioral disorders. Motivated by her brother's diagnosis of OCD at a young age, she decided to write "How to Defeat Bully Brain" to assist young children and their families in combating OCD.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Ella Kim https://defeatbullybrain.com/ https://www.instagram.com/ocd_detectives/   Mentioned Book: How to Defeat Bully Brain: A Story About OCD **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Imagine this: your ten-year-old son is diagnosed with OCD, and you witness the daily struggles he faces. Through the transformative power of proper treatment, you see him begin to thrive. Yet, in a world where many are lost and unsure how to find resources, access care, or even recognize the signs, you're compelled to take action. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Kim Vincenty. Kim is a remarkable woman whose personal experience with OCD has led her to become a staunch advocate for mental health education and support. She is also the founder of the JACK Mental Health Advocacy organization and a recent recipient of the IOCDF Hero award.  In our conversation, Kim shares her personal journey with her son's OCD diagnosis and how it inspired her to help others. We discuss JACK's initiatives, including the Access to Care program, Pediatric OCD Camp, and training for clinicians. The conversation highlights the importance of community, early intervention, and parental support in managing OCD. Kim's commitment to improving mental health education and resources for families shines through as she details her advocacy work.   In This Episode [00:42]Introduction to Kim Vincenty [01:38] Kim's journey into OCD advocacy [03:28] Kim's experiences supporting families and caregivers [06:12] Overview of the JACK Mental Health Advocacy  [08:13] The Access to Care program [09:23] The Pediatric OCD Camp program [09:37] Benefits of the Pediatric OCD Camp program [15:47] Parent involvement in the Pediatric OCD Camp [17:34] Motivating and supporting children with OCD [20:01] The impact of Advocacy   Notable Quotes [01:38] “I'm the mother of someone that lives with OCD. He was diagnosed when he was ten years old, and it quickly spiraled out of control.” -Kim [03:28] "I stayed up all night obsessing about it... I just kind of dug in my heels and decided I was going to learn everything I could because my kid was not going down under my watch."- Kim [08:04] “We're starting a network of clinicians that are willing to work with us to provide care for people that would otherwise receive no treatment at all.” -Kim [12:31] “No matter where you go or if you have OCD or not, you have to have opportunities to get comfortable with uncertainty and discomfort.”-Kim [15:02] “If the parents are engaged and everybody's on the same page, the treatment outcomes are better.”-Kim    Our Guest Kim Vincenty is a devoted mother, wife, and OCD advocate, with over 12 years of experience fostering community and aiding families in finding the best resources for mental health, education, intervention, and recovery. As the former president of OCD Jacksonville, an affiliate of the international OCD Foundation, Kim's advocacy work earned her the prestigious IOCDF Hero Award. She is an active speaker, support group facilitator, and the founder and president of JACK Mental Health, dedicated to promoting mental health awareness and providing support to those in need. Kim's passion, dedication, and tireless advocacy make her a respected figure in the mental health community. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Kim Vincenty https://jackmha.org/team/ https://www.facebook.com/jackmha.org https://www.instagram.com/jack_mha/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064234050479   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Can you imagine a nightly battle where the battleground isn't just your bed, but your own mind? Welcome to the sleepless world of individuals wrestling with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), where intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and the haunting spectre of false memories turn the quest for rest into a Herculean task. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with mental health counsellor Alnardo Martinez to discuss the difficulties people with OCD encounter when trying to sleep, focusing on the impact of intrusive thoughts, compulsions, and particularly false memory OCD. Martinez offers strategies to manage rumination and improve sleep hygiene, such as using guided meditations and accepting uncertainty. He also emphasizes the importance of working with a therapist and tailoring treatment approaches like ERP, CBT, or ACT to individual needs. The episode concludes with resources for listeners and encouragement for those on their journey to overcoming OCD.   In This Episode [01:20] Understanding the impact of OCD on sleep. [02:23] Common issues with sleep and OCD. [03:52] Strategies for improving sleep hygiene. [06:01] Addressing intrusive thoughts and compulsions. [08:04] Supporting a loved one with OCD and sleep issues. [13:31] Understanding false memory OCD and its impact on sleep. [16:35] False memory OCD and sleep. [17:16] Neutralizing rumination. [18:50] Accepting uncertainty.   Notable Quotes [02:23] "I think a lot of the clients I work with will often say that sleep is a big factor. It's usually interrupted, they get poor sleep, or the quality of sleep isn't good." [08:04] "I think first you want to try to validate those feelings. You want to try to not be dismissive. You don't really want to say, 'Oh, it's not a big deal, just go to sleep.'" [14:24]"What tends to happen, more so like compulsion-wise, could be replaying situations over and over in their mind, trying to convince themselves, 'No, I remember checking out, I remember buying these things.'" [16:35]"This person could be an adult and have a false memory that something happened to them when they were six years old, and that's really not a situation you're going to be able to go back and find any evidence of happening or not happening." [17:16] "I recognize that this is an OCD thought. I may not ever have full understanding of whether this did or didn't happen, and I'm going to work on being accepting of that." [19:21]  "If you're taking an ERP approach, it should be a gradual approach. Maybe you're not sitting with that feeling for something that's a really distressing false memory thought; maybe you've started with one that's a little less anxiety-producing."     Our Guest Alnardo Martinez, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor at the Child Mind Institute, brings over 10 years of expertise in diagnosing and treating OCD and anxiety disorders in children and adolescents. Certified in administering the ADOS-2, he employs tailored interventions such as CBT, ERP, mindfulness, and ACT techniques. Fluent in Spanish, Alnardo conducts workshops on children's mental health and provides bilingual neuropsychological evaluations, dedicated to empowering youth to thrive.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com   Alnardo Martinez https://www.linkedin.com/in/alnardo/ https://childmind.org/bio/alnardo-martinez-ms/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever considered the profound impact of justice-oriented treatment in the context of OCD, particularly when it intersects with sensitive issues like race-based OCD? How do we create an environment where individuals, especially those from BIPOC communities, feel safe to openly discuss their fears and intrusive thoughts without the burden of judgment or dismissiveness? In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to welcome Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe from ERP Kaleidoscope to discuss justice-oriented OCD treatment. They explore how to support BIPOC clinicians and individuals with OCD, emphasizing the need for a safe, empowering environment. The co-founders share insights on incorporating justice into ERP therapy and tackling race-based OCD. They advocate for diversity, clinician empowerment, and education on sensitive OCD themes, providing practical advice for therapists to effectively address these issues in their practice. In This Episode [00:03]Introduction to Bianca Simmons and Erin Nghe [02:39] Explanation of the name ERP Kaleidoscope [05:28] The concept of justice-oriented OCD treatment [07:57]Strategies to support BIPOC clinicians [10:17] Concrete example of justice-oriented ERP [11:47] Client's race-based OCD [13:56] Empowerment and advocacy for clinicians [15:46] Tangible exposures for clients [18:00] The importance of understanding core fears [19:41] Intersectionality in OCD treatment [23:04] Educating clinicians on cultural awareness [24:08] Impact on access and quality of care [25:58] Contact information for further support   Notable Quotes [03:04] “ERP kaleidoscope is all about uplifting the voices of BIPOC clinicians who specialize in OCD as well as the individuals.”- Bianca  [04:25] “Oftentimes when people think about OCD, they think about the suffering, and it's really hard to see the beauty. And so we really wanted to highlight how ERP brings out that beauty.”- Erin  [06:58] “BIPOC clinicians have to be able to feel safe because that's the only way that they can not only do good work with BIPOC individuals living with OCD but all individuals that have OCD.” -Erin [17:12] “Some clinicians of color have no idea that there is this theme that also latches on to race and so that can be very blindsiding.”- Erin  [20:42] “What we're trying to do at ERP kaleidoscope as well, building those safe spaces in terms of healing circles, and just allowing that time for clinicians to be able to heal.”- Bianca     Our Guests Bianca Simmons, an OCD specialist, co-founded ERP Kaleidoscope and owns Bianca Simmons LLC, a mental health private practice in Texas. With extensive experience in severe OCD treatment, she transitioned from managing a residential facility to providing outpatient therapy. Committed to accessibility, she focuses on supporting individuals from underrepresented communities and minority populations, ensuring they have access to the quality mental health assistance they need and deserve. Erin Nghe is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, and co-founder of ERP Kaleidoscope, a network association supporting Bipoc individuals with OCD and therapists interested in OCD treatment. With 15+ years of experience, she's also the owner and Clinical Director of OCD Set Free, training therapists along the East Coast in Ethical OCD Treatment. Erin advocates for OCD awareness, serving on the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Action Council of the International OCD Foundation and as a faculty member for their Behavioral Therapy Training Institute.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Bianca Simmons https://www.biancasimmonslpc.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-bianca-simmons/ https://www.instagram.com/therapywithbianca https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064234050479 Erin Nghe https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinnghe/ https://www.ocdsetfree.com/ https://www.instagram.com/ocdsetfree/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In a society that is gradually breaking down the barriers surrounding mental health, it's disheartening to witness the lingering shadows of stigma that continue to hinder progress. Marginalized communities often struggle to access support and treatment for OCD despite the fact that it affects people from all walks of life. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to speak with Alexandra Reynolds, a mental health graduate student and IOCDF Advocate.  During our conversation, Alexandra discusses the unique challenges faced by marginalized communities, including the LGBTQ community and people of color, in accessing OCD treatment and overcoming cultural stigma. She shares her personal journey of self-acceptance and the importance of finding supportive communities outside of family systems. The conversation also touches on the role of technology in building connections and the significance of prioritizing mental health. Alexandra offers hope to listeners, affirming that everyone is worthy of recovery and a fulfilling life beyond OCD.   In This Episode [00:42] Introduction to Alexandra  [02:07] Stigma and access to treatment [04:27] Cultural differences in mental health [06:40] Family dynamics and acceptance [09:54] Navigating identity and acceptance [11:48] Seeking support and advocacy [16:43] Building supportive communities [18:12] Acceptance and building relationships [18:39] Challenges of being open about OCD [19:18] Encouragement to seek support [20:35] Alexandra's word of hope: Worthiness of recovery   Notable Quotes [05:37] "I had people tell me that the reason I have mental illness is because I am possessed by a demon and that I just need an exorcism.” -Alexandra [17:14] “Life is still kind of unfair and I can't be out everywhere and not everyone accepts me or understands me, but also, I have some really amazing humans in my life who do.'" -Alexandra  [18:39] "You may live in a place where you can't tell everyone you have OCD, or you may work at a place where you can't tell everyone you have OCD.” -Alexandra  [20:35] “You are totally worthy of it. OCD, stigma, shame, societal expectations—they make us feel that we're not worthy for all these different reasons. But that's not true.” -Alexandra   Our Guest Alexandra Reynolds is a dedicated IOCDF Advocate and mental health graduate student, committed to raising awareness of OCD and providing evidence-based support. Her personal journey with OCD fuels her mission, especially in advocating for marginalized communities. As a first-generation Latinx, she actively works to destigmatize mental health care.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Alexandra Reynolds https://www.instagram.com/alexandraisobsessed/?hl=en https://www.tiktok.com/@alexandraisobsessed   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In our ever-evolving understanding of mental health, we often fixate on finding a cure or a quick fix for conditions like OCD. But what if we reframed our approach to embrace a journey of skill-building instead? This powerful concept lies at the core of Mark's advocacy for individuals living with OCD. Join us in today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, where we're thrilled to welcome Mark Freeman, a renowned mental fitness coach and author of "You Are Not a Rock." With over 4 million views on his YouTube channel, Mark's empowering approach to mental health is both refreshing and inspiring. During our conversation, we delve into the concept of OCD recovery, emphasizing skill development over the idea of being "recovered." Mark uses the analogy of learning to swim to illustrate managing life with OCD, highlighting adaptability and setting intentions to stay present amidst intrusive thoughts. We also explore the "uncertainty budget" and the impact of a rapidly changing world on mental health. Join us for insights into gradual tool adoption and the importance of avoiding instant solutions. Don't miss out!   In This Episode [00:57] Mark Freeman's YouTube channel [03:10] Approaching recovery [05:42] Flexibility in mental health [07:46] Understanding recovery [08:51] Tools for managing OCD [13:30] Sitting with fear [15:57] Quality time with friends and intrusive thoughts [16:41] Setting intentions in social situations [17:35] Cutting out compulsions and fears [19:37] Starting with the basics [20:24] Accepting imperfection and practice [22:14] Adapting to modern-day stress [23:09] Managing uncertainty budget [25:08] Gratitude and finding stability Notable Quotes [03:57] "What helped me is approaching recovery as more like learning how to swim." -Mark [17:35]"I want to get good at having conversations with people in choppy water while having angry monsters and intrusive thoughts, and that's what I'm going there to practice." - Mark [18:37] "I've been teaching my brain all day through all these kind of normal activities that we should control what other people think, so it's natural I'll just want to keep doing that in that situation."- Mark [25:52]” Everybody, take care of your uncertainty budget; you don't have uncertainty credit cards, you can't go over budget.- Mark   Our Guests Mark Freeman is a seasoned data strategist likening data management to racing - a vital yet often overlooked component. With a passion for integrating data seamlessly into tech ecosystems, he champions the concept of "shifting data left," advocating for collaboration between data and software engineering teams. Mark's expertise lies in optimizing data flow, ensuring businesses harness their data assets effectively for success.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Mark Freeman https://www.linkedin.com/in/mafreeman2/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJzijIM4ED3ukn0GJRWZwhw https://www.instagram.com/markwfreeman/ https://linktr.ee/mwfree YT/everybodyhasabrain Mentioned Book You Are Not a Rock:https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Rock-Step-Step/dp/0143132601   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever wondered why some people don't seem to have success with ERP therapy, despite its proven effectiveness?  ERP has helped countless individuals regain control of their lives and find relief from the debilitating symptoms that often accompany anxiety disorders. However, it's essential to recognize that despite the effectiveness of ERP therapy, there are common mistakes that people make which can hinder their progress In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, sit down with Ben Eckstein, a renowned expert in the treatment of anxiety and OCD, and the owner and director of City Anxiety and OCD Treatment Center in Durham, North Carolina. During our conversation, we explore the nuances of treating OCD with exposure and response prevention (ERP). We discuss the importance of managing mental compulsions and rumination, emphasizing the need for a diverse set of coping skills and intentional practice. Our conversation also covers the influence of attachment styles on OCD and the significance of addressing underlying psychological factors. Ben shares insights on building trust in relationships and concludes by discussing his book, "Worrying is Optional."   In This Episode [00:43] Introduction to Ben [01:26] Ben's involvement with OCD North Carolina [02:59] Identifying ERP pitfalls [04:46] White knuckling and acceptance [06:19] Approaching uncomfortable feelings [08:55] The importance of response prevention in ERP [12:19] The complexity of interrupting compulsive behaviors [15:57] Managing downtime and mental compulsions [17:34] Cultivating intentionality and response to thoughts [21:15] Commitment to practice and consistency [22:32] The importance of intentionality in managing mental compulsions [25:38] Developing diverse coping skills [28:17] Attachment theory in the context of OCD [29:18] How OCD targets vulnerabilities and perpetuates cycles [31:13] Trusting in yourself and others [32:38] The role of experiential learning    Notable Quotes [05:32] "Acceptance is a process, it's not an outcome." - Ben [06:54] “Traditionally when we're doing ERP, a lot of therapists are asking about Suds, subjective units of distress, you know, how anxious are you in the moment?” -Ben  [09:40] "I think when we talk about ERP, everyone just calls it exposure. But at the end of the day, exposure doesn't matter; you need response prevention for this to be effective."-Ben [12:34] “I think that process of worrying, ruminating all the, the sort of over-analysis and examination that we do, these are complicated behaviors.” -Ben  [29:23]” I always think OCD is lazy. Like it's going to take the easiest path to like, hey, like where is this person vulnerable.” -Ben   Our Guests   Ben Eckstein is the owner and director of Bull City Anxiety & OCD Treatment Center, he moved from Massachusetts to North Carolina in 2014. Trained at McLean Hospital's OCD Institute, he boasts over a decade of experience in treating OCD and Anxiety Disorders. Serving as VP of OCD North Carolina, Ben offers training and workshops, alongside his clinical work. He is also the author of  "Worrying is Optional" a book that tackles anxiety and rumination head-on.   Resources & Links   Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Ben Eckstein https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-eckstein-ba395919/ https://www.bullcityanxiety.com/ https://www.instagram.com/bullcityanxiety/ Mentioned Worrying Is Optional   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Did you know that our genes can tell a story about our predisposition to OCD and addiction? Well, our genetic makeup isn't our destiny, but rather a blueprint that can be influenced by our environment. It's fascinating to think that we have the power to turn certain genes on or off! In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to welcome Dr. Evelyn Higgins, a trailblazer in understanding the intricate dance between our genes and our environment, especially when it comes to OCD and addiction. During our conversation, we talk about the genetic and environmental aspects of OCD and addiction. We explore how personalized lab work can reveal unique physiological traits and genetic predispositions that contribute to these conditions. Dr. Higgins emphasizes the importance of understanding one's genetic makeup to make informed choices and potentially alter the expression of genes through environmental changes. We also discuss the affordability and accessibility of personalized treatment, the potential for insurance coverage, and the services offered by Wired Bio Health. In This Episode [02:26] - Genetic standpoint of OCD and addiction [03:29] - Impact of environmental factors on gene expression [10:52] - Correlation between OCD and addiction [14:19] - Importance of personalized lab work [16:47] - Overview of traditional approaches to treating OCD [18:58] - Affordability and insurance coverage [20:43] - Accessibility and flexibility of treatment [22:44] - Advancements in mental health and addiction treatment [23:41] - The future of mental health screening Notable Quotes [02:38]  "We're not healthy one day and sick the next, or healthy one day and addicted the next. It's all the living that we do in between that brings us to either end of that spectrum." - Dr. Evelyn Higgins [02:50] “From a symptomatic standpoint, there are so many correlations that we see that bring somebody towards the addiction side of things, be it anxiety, be it depression, be it agitation.” - Dr. Evelyn Higgins [18:35] "There are so many more advances that have been made that people are not educated on and aren't using just because they don't know." - Dr. Evelyn Higgins Our Guest Dr. Evelyn Higgins is the founder and CEO of Wired Bio Health (formerly Wired for Addiction). Dr. Higgins is not only an expert in the epidemiology of addiction but also a certified addictionologist, a diplomat of the American College of Addiction Allergy and Compulsive Disorders, and a diplomat of the American Board of Disability Analysts specializing in pain management. With over 17 years dedicated to mental health and addiction research, she recently graced international stages as a TED speaker panelist, solidifying her status as a top innovator in healthcare. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Evelyn Higgins https://doctorhiggins.com/ https://www.wiredbiohealth.com/ Understanding Genetic Markers of Addiction **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Not many people fully disclose their journey with OCD. Perhaps it's the fear of acceptance or the weight of society's stigma that keeps them silent. But what if we told you that an OCD diagnosis doesn't mean a life sentence of struggle and despair? The healing starts with a simple, yet daring act - opening up.  In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Erica Lugo, a remarkable guest whose journey with OCD is both inspiring and enlightening. Erica's story begins with an abrupt onset of OCD symptoms that turned her life upside down. She found herself grappling with intense anxiety, sleepless nights, and a sense of dysfunction that she couldn't shake off. During our conversation, we discuss Erica's journey with OCD. Erica shares her initial struggle with the sudden onset of symptoms, the challenges of accepting her diagnosis, and her quest for effective treatment. She talks about the importance of addressing both the physical and psychological aspects of OCD, the impact of her public persona on her decision to be open about her condition, and the need to break the stigma surrounding mental health. In This Episode [01:05] - Erica's Journey with OCD [02:39] - Experiences with diagnosis and treatment [05:50] - Challenges of finding appropriate treatment [05:54] - The impact of hormonal imbalance on OCD symptoms [07:40] - The use of ERP therapy [11:14] - Erica's experience as a public figure with OCD [13:39] - Transformation and healing [14:30] - The impact of OCD on life [15:19] - The importance of daily practice in managing OCD. [16:44] - Embracing the diagnosis of OCD [18:59] - The realization that compulsions are not always physical [20:02] - The impact of medication on OCD Notable Quotes [01:44] “I'm someone who I felt like I've never had any mental health battles my whole life. I've never had anxiety or depression or OCD until all of a sudden, I feel like a light switch just kind of went off.” - Erica [14:49] “In OCD, it's not a life sentence, but OCD will tell you it is.” - Erica [15:40] “It is okay to not know what's going to happen next, and it's okay to be okay with the unknown and learn to accept that.” - Erica [20:02] "Medication may not work for you, may make you sick or worse, as it did for me, but just keep going because you can get through it without medication if that's the path for you." - Erica Our Guest Erica Lugo, known from "Biggest Loser" and as a women's wellness influencer, is a loving wife and mom. Passionate about fitness, she shares tips and embraces all things Halloween and dogs. Erica, diagnosed with OCD, courageously advocates mental health awareness, inspiring others to overcome challenges. Through social media, she spreads positivity, making her a relatable and uplifting figure for those seeking a healthier, happier life. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Kristina Orlova's headshot courtesy of https://www.corporateheadshots.ai/ Erica Lugo https://stan.store/EricaFitLove https://www.instagram.com/ericafitlove/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Do thoughts of religious sin and moral purity consume your every waking moment, leaving you trapped in a never-ending cycle of guilt and doubt? In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast we are joined by Justin Hughes, a licensed professional counselor with dual expertise in psychology and theology, Justin brings to the table a wealth of vital knowledge on the intersection of faith and OCD. During our conversation, we shine a light on a lesser-known facet of OCD: scrupulosity. This variant explores an individual's deepest discomforts, tapping into their spiritual beliefs and creating perplexing doubts. We explore how intrusive thoughts affect individuals with faith-based OCD, providing examples like doubts about salvation or the correctness of prayers. The discussion also covers the challenges of treating scrupulosity, particularly within a religious context, and how exposure and acceptance commitment therapy can align with Christian values. In This Episode [02:36] - Understanding Scrupulosity [09:46] - Challenges and internal conflict [13:11] - Approach to treatment [16:57] - Importance of honesty and truthfulness in treatment [18:49] - Facing scrupulosity and superstitious obsessions [19:41] - Overcoming avoidance behaviors [23:07] - Paralyzing impact of scrupulosity [24:19] - Challenges in exposure therapy for scrupulosity [26:21] - Building trust and vulnerability in recovery [27:49] - Finding community and support Notable Quotes [07:32]” Most of the time, the person with OCD is, in my experience, usually pretty clear about the perspective. What they're trying to get clear on is the feeling and the fact that it feels like they're in a bad place.” - Justin [10:36] "There's hope. You're not alone; there's help. Many, many, many are walking this road currently, and many have done it before.'" - Justin  [13:41] "Thoughts, whether random or intrusive, reside within us. The key is acknowledging their presence and shining light on the truth." - Justin [23:39] “I don't think scrupulosity is worse than contamination. I don't think contamination is worse than scrupulosity.” - Justin Our Guest Justin Hughes is a licensed professional counselor and owner of Dallas Counseling. He is a dedicated clinician and writer committed to supporting individuals affected by OCD. As a member of the OCD and Faith Task Force and Dallas Ambassador for OCD Texas, he leverages dual training in psychology and theology to explore the intersection of faith and OCD, offering diverse clients valuable insights and assistance. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Justin Hughes https://www.justinkhughes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/justinkhugheslpc/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Our minds are fascinating realms capable of producing a myriad of thoughts, some fleeting and inconsequential, while others persistently tug at the edges of our consciousness. For individuals grappling with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), this mental landscape can be particularly challenging to navigate. One crucial aspect of understanding OCD lies in differentiating between automatic and intentional thoughts, unraveling the intricate dance of the mind, and shedding light on the often misunderstood concept of thought-action fusion. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we sit down with Michelle Massi, a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 15 years of experience treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Michelle has a private practice in Los Angeles and has worked at the UCLA OCD Intensive Treatment Program and the UCLA Childhood OCD Anxiety and Tic Disorders Program During our conversation, we discussed the difference between automatic and intentional thoughts, particularly with intrusive thoughts experienced by individuals with OCD. Michelle explains the concept of thought-action fusion and emphasizes that having a thought does not define a person's character. She also discusses the role of guilt and shame in OCD, encouraging individuals to have self-compassion and recognize that everyone has negative thoughts or biases. The conversation also touches on exposure and response prevention therapy. In This Episode [03:27] Automatic and intentional thoughts [03:36] Thought-action fusion [07:31] Overly paying attention to negative thoughts [08:06] Automatic and intentional thoughts (revisited) [09:42] Labeling thoughts [13:38] Certainty and uncertainty [15:44] Imaginal exposure scripts [16:28] Pushing clients beyond normal limits [19:49] Alternative approaches to imaginal exposures [23:14] Guilt and shame from judgment [24:40] Recognizing intrusive thoughts [27:30] Self-compassion and inner conversation Notable Quotes [09:15] "If I have the thought, like, what if this bad thing happens, I have 100% control over whether or not I'm going to do anything with that thought." - Michelle [13:39] "I don't need to solve a problem that doesn't exist yet. I haven't yet stabbed somebody, so I don't need to worry about whether or not I'm going to." - Michelle [22:02] "I don't need to sit there going, 'Oh my God, I didn't die. It's like, I don't know if I did or not. And right now I'm doing the dishes, so I'm going to focus on doing the dishes. I don't need to have this argument." - Michelle [29:42] “You're not alone. You can get help, find support, and find a community to connect with.” Our Guest Michelle Massi is a seasoned mental health professional with over 15 years of expertise in treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and anxiety disorders. As the former Associate Clinical Director at the UCLA OCD Adult Intensive Treatment Program, she navigated the complexities of comprehensive care. Michelle's commitment to advancing the field is evident through her role as an International OCD Foundation (IOCDF) BTTI faculty member and a consistent presenter at the IOCDF Conference from 2009 to 2023. With a focus on education and collaboration, she extends her impact by offering training and consultation to clinicians, clergy members, and family members, contributing to the broader mental health community. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Michelle Massi https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmassi/ www.anxietytherapyla.com **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

When it comes to finding effective ways to help people dealing with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), the search for better treatments is an ongoing journey. Traditionally, we've relied on therapies and medications, but there's a new and somewhat controversial idea gaining attention – psychedelic therapy. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast,  we have the pleasure of hosting Natalia Aíza and Matthew Williams, the founders of Kairos Wellness Collective. Natalia Aíza, an LPC is a passionate mental health advocate who has personally journeyed with OCD. Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist, brings a wealth of knowledge from his advanced degree in traditional Chinese medicine and his upbringing in South Korea. Both Natalia and Matthew have extensive knowledge about psychedelic treatment for OCD and herbal natural remedies. During our conversation, we discussed their holistic approach to treating OCD, incorporating traditional Chinese medicine, herbs, and psychedelic treatments like ketamine. We emphasize the importance of a controlled setting for ketamine therapy and the potential for lasting change through regular sessions and integration activities. We also discuss the need for flexibility in treating OCD, as it presents differently in each individual. In This Episode [03:30] The current research for psychedelic treatment for OCD [04:57] The shift from ego-centric OCD to ego-tonic OCD [06:35] Effects of psilocybin and ketamine on neuroplasticity and anxiety reduction [08:46] The IV setup and referral list [09:37] The science behind ketamine [17:18] Psychedelic medicine and therapy [18:13] Incorporating EMDR and safe container [19:17] Dosing and perspective with ketamine [25:14] Flexibility in OCD treatment [25:49] Kairos Wellness Collective Notable Quotes [09:43] "Am I spending my time doing the things that I care about? That's what ketamine did for me." - Natalia [19:19] “Since by nature, you know, ketamine and other psychedelics are just associative. And so we must make sure that we get you back into your body and you feel comfortable so that you're connected." - Matthew [23:14] "Ketamine is an incredibly safe drug that we know exactly how to dose it, it's been studied extensively with OCD and it's very effective." - Natalia Our Guests Natalia Aíza, a multicultural counselor, prioritizes active client participation in her modern, goal-oriented therapy. With diverse international experience, including creating a play therapy program in a Shanghai orphanage, she practices transformative therapy at Kairos Wellness Collective in Boulder, integrating outdoor activities with her therapy dog, Miszu. Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist rooted in Traditional Chinese Medicine, enhances well-being through personalized consultations and holistic treatments. Raised in South Korea, he combines acupressure, Tui Na massage, and dietary therapy, drawing from his own experiences with OCD and the Autistic spectrum to support individuals with Neurodiversity in customized sessions for holistic healing.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Matthew Williams and Natalia Aíza https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/ https://www.instagram.com/kairoswellnesscollective   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In the realm of mental health treatment, evidence-based approaches are the guiding lights that lead individuals toward recovery. The journey to understanding and effectively treating obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) has witnessed a fascinating evolution, marked by various therapeutic approaches that delve deep into the intricacies of the human mind. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are thrilled to be joined by Dr. Jon Abramowitz, a leading figure in the field of OCD research, with numerous published books and research articles to his name. He is a Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience, Research Professor of Psychiatry, and Director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Clinic at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He also runs a small practice specializing in the psychological treatment of OCD. During our conversation, we talked about evidence-based treatments for OCD. We discuss the effectiveness of exposure response prevention (ERP), acceptance commitment therapy (ACT), and inference-based cognitive-behavioral therapy (ICBT). Dr. Abramowitz emphasizes that all three treatments have been proven effective, but the effectiveness varies for each approach. He also highlights the importance of a therapist and client believing in the treatment. Our conversation also covers the importance of not avoiding fears and triggers and the need for more independent research on these treatments. In This Episode [01:55] Defining evidence-based treatment [05:01] The importance of therapist belief and client belief [07:27] Inference-based CBT and its differences [08:46] The cognitive component of ICBT for OCD [11:58] ACT's approach to values and exposure [16:45] Exposure therapy in ACT and ICBT [18:42] Alternative approaches to exposure [24:07] Empowering clients through exposure [24:36] The importance of engaging with fears [25:44] Recovery doesn't mean a life without triggers [26:35] Anxiety and distress management [33:26] The rise of ACT in OCD treatment [36:21] The importance of independent replications in ICBT and ACT research Notable Quotes [03:21] "My viewpoint is that there shouldn't be a versus. We're all trying to make life better for folks who have OCD, give them treatments that they need to reduce their obsessions and their compulsions." - Jon [06:11] "To have long-lasting improvement from an irrational fear as we see in OCD, the person has to face that fear. They have to engage with it and they have to learn. I can manage this." - Jon [19:08] "A person with OCD, they're not going to overcome their problem if they're not able to engage with their feared stimuli and learn something from that, that they can do it and that the situation is not as dangerous as they think."- Jon [37:57] "If we could find a treatment that works for everyone, I think we'd have a lot of people converting and giving up whatever they've been doing before." - Jon Our Guest Dr. Jon Abramowitz, PhD, ABPP, holds positions as Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience, Research Professor of Psychiatry, and Director of the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Clinic at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Renowned for his expertise in anxiety disorders, he has authored over 250 publications, including articles, book chapters, and books. Dr. Abramowitz is the Editor of the Journal of Obsessive–Compulsive and Related Disorders and contributes to various editorial boards. As a former president of the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapies, he plays a pivotal role in advancing the field. Recognized with prestigious awards, his influential works cater to both the general public and mental health professionals, addressing topics from overcoming OCD to stress management. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Jon Abramowitz https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-abramowitz-a159a2257/ http://jabramowitz.com/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are excited to feature Peter Cannon, a young, talented writer, and director who's making waves with his debut feature film, "Exposure". Peter's film is a breath of fresh air in the way it portrays OCD. It's not your typical Hollywood representation - it's raw, real, and resonates with the lived experiences of those battling OCD. Peter, who has personally grappled with OCD for over a decade, has poured his heart into this project, ensuring an accurate portrayal of the disorder. During our conversation, we discussed the importance of understanding OCD, its impact on people's lives, and how it's often misrepresented in media. Peter shares his personal experience with OCD and his desire to portray the disorder accurately in his film. We also explore the broader themes of the film, such as the correlation between OCD and drug abuse, trauma, and the effects on relationships. Peter emphasizes the film's message about accepting uncertainties, which is relevant to everyone, not just those with OCD. In This Episode [01:08]  What prompted Peter to make the film "Exposure" and its connection to OCD [02:07] The limited representation of OCD in the media [05:01] Goals of the film "Exposure" [08:09] The message of the film [09:08] Living with a non-zero chance of fear [11:55] The impact of OCD on relationships [14:20] The failures of American healthcare [14:46] Correlation between trauma and OCD [18:28] The limited representation of OCD in movies Notable Quotes [01:48] “I saw many different therapists, tried many different medications, I didn't see a whole lot of representation of what OCD was, at least from where I was sitting in the media.” - Peter [01:57] “A lot of the examples I've seen of OCD, long before all this, was like Jack Nicholson in 'As Good as it Gets' or ‘Monk'. And that's not to say those representations are wrong, it's more the idea that it's a narrower definition.” - Peter [09:33] “The idea that you have to live with a non-zero chance of your worst fear happening also applies to regular people. It is a message that really resonates with folks who are in the middle of various types of OCD therapy, but it's also something that people without OCD can wrap their heads around.” - Peter [12:42] "Obsession doesn't just bring you down, but it can bring the people around you down. And that's something I feel like a lot of us can relate to.” - Peter [15:21] “OCD can show up in different ways as you either get older or have certain traumatic experiences, or you just go through puberty.” - Peter Our Guest Peter Cannon is a young writer and director who has made significant strides in the film industry. A graduate of Emerson College, Peter has directed a variety of projects, including shorts, commercials, and virtual reality experiences. His debut feature film, "Exposure," is a testament to his belief that entertainment and story can coexist and that the most potent messages can be found in genre films. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Peter Cannon https://www.discomfortsthepoint.com/ https://www.instagram.com/exposure_movie/ https://www.instagram.com/peter.cannon/ **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Imagine finding a new way to help with OCD that's different from the usual methods – it's called Accelerated Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS). Think of it like this: your mind sometimes gets stuck, like a skipping record. With Accelerated TMS, it's like giving your brain a gentle push to get out of that loop. This could be a big deal – a way to change things and give hope to people dealing with the ups and downs of OCD. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to be joined by two distinguished guests, Dr. Noah DeGaetano and Dr. Ryan Vidrine. Both are renowned experts in treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). During our conversation, we talked about innovative treatments for OCD. We discuss the accelerated transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) approach, which has shown promise in treating OCD. The treatment's financial aspects and insurance coverage challenges are also addressed. The potential therapeutic benefits of substances like MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in treating mental health conditions are explored, with ongoing trials for using psilocybin in treating OCD mentioned. We conclude with a discussion on the importance of a calm and comfortable setting for therapy. In This Episode [02:23] Introduction to Accelerated TMS treatment [05:05] Insurance coverage for Accelerated TMS treatment [07:10] The cost of treatment and insurance coverage [08:12] Financial considerations and options for treatment [09:25] Results and efficacy of accelerated TMS treatment [14:31] The use of MDMA, psilocybin, and ketamine in treating mental health disorders [15:33] The need for more research on psilocybin for OCD [16:33] Comparing the effects of Lexapro and psilocybin on thought suppression and rumination [21:35] The setting and preparation for psilocybin therapy [23:02] The concept of set and setting in psychedelic therapy [24:59] Patient experiences with psilocybin therapy and the importance of proper design and location Notable Quotes [11:33] “TMS is a bridge. It is not the whole answer. It's like you have a different brain after you've had TMS.” - Dr. Vidrin [14:26] “In the realm of healing with MDMA, the therapy environment is the canvas where transformation takes shape—a sanctuary for profound change.” - Dr. Vidrine [18:36] “Lexapro helped with rumination, but psilocybin seemed to help a little more. And Lexapro did not help with thought suppression, and it seemed like the psilocybin did.” - Dr. DeGaetano [15:50] “A lot of times what they're doing now is low dose psilocybin and high dose psilocybin, essentially, and using psilocybin as the control for this placebo-controlled trial, which is kind of considered the gold standard in medicine.” - Dr. DeGaetano Our Guests Dr. Noah de Gaetano, a board-certified psychiatrist, serves as Chief Medical Officer at Acacia Mental Health, Sunnyvale, CA, with 15+ years of expertise. Renowned for his work in Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, he founded and directed the TMS program at Palo Alto Medical Foundation, contributing significantly to psychiatric advancements and patient care. Dr. Ryan Vidrine, an interventional psychiatrist, completed his residency at UC San Francisco and directed OCD services at a leading practice. With expertise in OCD and anxiety disorders, he employs medication, psychotherapy, stimulation treatments, and innovative approaches like ketamine and psychedelic therapies to guide clients toward authentic, liberated living. Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Noah DeGaetano https://www.linkedin.com/in/noah-degaetano-a963251/ https://acaciaclinics.com Dr. Ryan Vidrine https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanvmd/ www.ryanvmd.com     https://www.instagram.com/ryanvmd/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Think about this: have you ever tried to find peace and meaning through your spiritual practices, like meditation or prayer, only to have nagging, bothersome thoughts and habits that just won't leave you alone? This is the intersection of OCD and spirituality, and it's a complex place where your quest for spiritual connection and the constant demands of OCD come together. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, I'm joined by Lucy Grantz. Lucy is a licensed marriage and family therapist who specializes in therapy for teens and adults struggling with OCD. During our conversation, we discussed the intersection of OCD and spirituality. We share personal experiences of how spiritual practices can become compulsions for individuals with OCD, such as over-reliance on tarot card readings or healers. We emphasize the importance of distinguishing between engaging in spiritual practices for connection and joy versus using them as compulsions to alleviate anxiety. Our conversation also touches on the rigidity of OCD and the need for grounding.   In This Episode [01:17] The relationship between OCD and spiritual practices [04:09] Compulsive behaviors related to tarot cards and astrology [07:09] The impact of OCD on manifestation and law of attraction [08:03] How spiritual practices can become compulsions for individuals with OCD [08:57] How OCD can affect the practice of meditation [09:46] Thoughts as manifestations [17:29] Recognizing the pattern of OCD [21:11] Finding flexibility in spiritual practices [22:43] Compulsions and over-reliance on spiritual practices [23:38] Compulsive over-processing and fixation on the problem [24:11] Finding a balance between helpful practices and compulsions   Notable Quotes [03:11] “I don't want to make it sound like anything I think is bad about any of these spiritual practices, but when OCD latches on, it can start to be compulsive, and that's what we want to avoid, but that's what happened to me for a long time trying to solve my own OCD before I knew I had OCD.” - Lucy [18:54] “With the law of attraction, that whole thing was like, well, I'm not manifesting what I want. So what's wrong with how I'm thinking about it? Or like I have this one bad thought and what will that mean for what I manifest?” - Lucy [24:53] “I think it's not black and white, you know. I think with this whole thing we're trying to get back to that life is gray. OCD wants it to be one or the other but there are no rights and wrongs. Everything can be helpful and it's about us finding our own path and who we really are and our own grounding versus being in a compulsion.” - Lucy   Our Guest Lucy Grantz is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Minnesota, specializing in helping teens and adults overcome Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Anxiety. Drawing from her own experience with OCD, she is dedicated to supporting others through their struggles. Lucy specializes in mental compulsions, using Inference-Based Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and collaborates with renowned expert Frederick Aardema. Her background in Buddhism and mindfulness adds a unique dimension to her therapy, and she is well-versed in Exposure and Response Prevention as well as rumination-focused CBT.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Lucy Grantz https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucy-grantz-80110626/ https://www.pivotpsychmn.com/about   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Do you ever find yourself double-checking if you locked the front door? Or perhaps you've felt the need to wash your hands repeatedly, even though you know they're already clean? These common experiences might seem like minor quirks, but for individuals with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), they can become all-consuming battles against inferential confusion. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are thrilled to be joined by Carl Robbins. During our conversation, we discuss the concept of inferential confusion in OCD, where individuals confuse their imagined possibilities with reality. Carl explains the difference between normal uncertainty and obsessional doubt in OCD, and emphasizes that OCD is always in the imagination and disconnected from relevant information in the present moment. The conversation also touches on the controversy between choosing Exposure Response Prevention (ERP) or Inference Based Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (ICBT) for treating OCD.   In This Episode [01:15] The concept of inferential confusion in OCD [03:47] Differentiating normal uncertainty and obsessional doubt [08:23] How obsessional doubt manifests in checking compulsions [09:20] The difference between doubting processes in OCD and normal uncertainty in everyday situations. [10:27] How obsessional doubt arises in OCD and the role of inferential confusion in creating selective reasoning errors. [12:55] Choosing between ERP and ICBT [19:21] The concept of inferential confusion in OCD and how it relates to finding effective treatment approaches. [20:12] Different models and choices in OCD treatment.   Notable Quotes [07:06] "Obsessional doubt is based 100% on my imagination, and once you cross over into the imagination, there are endless possibilities.” - Carl [15:33] “I think often people will say ERP has been around longer than ICBT... and that if it doesn't work or, you know, very often people will get a response, but they won't go into remission..” - Carl [19:58] “What's so important is to understand that nobody's wrong. These are models. These are theories that are applied to our understanding of OCD and how to treat it.”   Our Guest Carl Robbins is the Director of Training and Senior Clinician at the Anxiety and Stress Disorders Institute of Maryland. With over 35 years of experience treating OCD and related disorders, Carl has been a mentee of Dr. Sally Winston and has attended multiple trainings through the IOCDF, ADAA and ABCT. He has also presented at the IOCDF and ADAA conferences on OCD and recently underwent individual training with Dr. Fred Aardema, the co-developer of Inference-based CBT for OCD. Carl is passionate about promoting the dissemination of ICBT in the US through various platforms, including consultation, teaching, lectures, social media, and podcasts.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Carl Robbins https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-robbins-3839039/ https://www.anxietyandstress.com/ Mentioned https://icbt.online/   **Disclaimer**   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Bringing a child into the world is often described as one of life's most beautiful and transformative experiences. However, for some new mothers, this journey can be clouded by a silent intruder that lurks in the shadows of their minds – Perinatal Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). As the world celebrates the arrival of a precious bundle of joy, these mothers find themselves battling intrusive, distressing thoughts and compulsive behaviors that threaten to shatter the blissful facade of motherhood. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are delighted to have Conal Harpur. Conal is a psychotherapist specializing in anxiety disorders and OCD during the perinatal period. During our conversation with Conal, we discussed perinatal OCD symptoms, including intrusive thoughts related to the baby's well-being. Conal explains the thought process and distress experienced by individuals with OCD and emphasizes the importance of finding a therapist who understands OCD and the transition into parenthood. We also discuss different therapeutic approaches for OCD and the correlation between stressors and OCD symptoms. We conclude our conversation by touching on public vs. private practice and the importance of individual readiness for transformative growth.   In This Episode [01:22] What is Perinatal OCD how is it different from OCD? [01:55] Symptoms of Perinatal OCD [05:25] Emotional avoidance in OCD [07:28] Understanding and managing OCD with a focus on specific obsessional topics. [08:03] The unpredictability of OCD and the importance of finding a therapist [09:03] CBT and medication as treatment options. [09:56] Analytic psychotherapy and understanding the sense of self. [14:04] The psychological and therapeutic perspective on perfectionism and its connection to OCD. [18:17] The correlation between stress and OCD symptoms [18:39] The overlap between OCD and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder [22:27] The importance of understanding childhood experiences in OCD treatment [25:50] The core emphasis of public practice: Symptom reduction and stress management. [26:49] The transformative journey vs. disorder treatment [27:37] The importance of being in the right emotional space and readiness for therapy,   Notable Quotes [04:36] “ If I have an intrusive image about me approaching my baby or walking down the stairs and dropping my baby on the stairs is a very common one, I might be more inclined to not engage with my baby for fear that I may act on it.”- Conal [14:09] “An individual may develop kind of perfectionistic traits as a defense mechanism in psychoanalytic terms against the kind of reoccurring unacceptable impulses or thoughts they may have growing up.” - Conal [22:28] “Whenever there's a massive rise in responsibility, there's going to be a massive rise in intrusive images, and that's going to fuel the OCD.”- Conal   Our Guest Conal Harpur, a seasoned mental health professional currently completing his doctorate in psychotherapy, specializes in anxiety disorders and OCD, particularly during the perinatal period. He manages the CBT department at a Dublin maternity hospital and runs a private practice for moderate to severe mental health issues, passionately improving lives through psychotherapy.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Conal Harpur https://ie.linkedin.com/in/conal-jacob-harpur-4902a3200 https://www.cbtsolutions.ie/ https://www.instagram.com/cognitive_conal/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Did you ever stop to consider the intricate challenges individuals with OCD face when they embark on their journey towards treatment? Or perhaps, have you thought about the profound ways in which perfectionism can affect their experiences of intimacy and sex? Alternatively, have you explored the complicated links between hoarding behaviours and OCD? In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, I'm thrilled to have Dr. Patrick McGrath, a renowned expert in treating OCD and author of "The OCD Answer Book" and "Don't Try Harder, Try Different" During our conversation, we explore the main obstacles that hinder progress in OCD treatment. Dr. McGrath mentions "wussy exposures" and the importance of practicing exposure response prevention (ERP) techniques outside of therapy sessions. He also highlights the challenge of recognizing OCD's tricks even after making progress in treatment. We also touch on the impact of perfectionism on intimacy and sex, with Dr. McGrath providing strategies for handling intrusive thoughts. We conclude our conversation with a discussion on hoarding and associations with OCD.   In This Episode [01:07] The number one thing that gets in the way of recovery [05:39] Perfectionism and its impact on intimacy and sex [08:14] How to deal with the intensity of OCD attacks [08:47] The importance of stepping out of a situation and taking a break to collect oneself without giving in to compulsions. [10:00] Setting attainable goals for dealing with intrusive thoughts [11:15] Exposing yourself to intrusive thoughts and practising response prevention [16:48] Recognizing the importance of memory [17:22] Associations and moving forward. [18:03] The concept of emotional contaminants in OCD   Notable Quotes [02:08] “Doing ERP without safety behaviours, even the subtlest of safety behaviours are going to be some of the things that aren't going or that are going to really interfere with your ability to get better.” - Dr. McGrath [03:54] “OCD is always going to try to bring you back into the realm of OCD and doing compulsions. Because remember, OCD eats compulsions for breakfast, lunch and dinner. It's the koala of disorders.” - Dr. McGrath [06:13] “OCD likes to tell you it's your best friend and it's ultimately out there for your best interests. So hey, don't go into this situation until you go 100% that everything's going to be okay.” - Dr. McGrath [18:05] “OCD loves to put emotional contaminants on things. You know, there's something bad about this thing or this area and how much then that emotional contamination can spread as well, too.”- Dr. McGrath   Our Guest Dr. Patrick McGrath, a renowned expert in treating OCD and author of "The OCD Answer Book" and "Don't Try Harder, Try Different," presently serves as the Head of Clinical Services at NOCD. He leads therapist recruitment and drives the development of treatment and training protocols, drawing from his extensive experience as the former Assistant Vice President at AMITA Health's Foglia Family Foundation Residential Treatment Center.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Patrick McGrath https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-mcgrath-37b981/ https://www.treatmyocd.com/   **Disclaimer** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

In the realm of mental health treatment, the evolution of therapeutic approaches is an ongoing journey marked by innovation and discovery. One such breakthrough that has been gaining prominence in recent years is Inference-Based Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (I-CBT). This cutting-edge approach offers a fresh perspective on how we understand and address our obsessional reasoning process. In today's episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we are joined by Amanda Petrik-Gardner, a true expert in the treatment of OCD and related disorders. One of the key points we discuss is the difference between obsessional doubt and reasonable doubt. Amanda really emphasizes the importance of recognizing whether our doubts are based on direct evidence or our imagination running wild. It's all about distinguishing between what's real and what's not. We also touch on the concept of inferential confusion. This is when we arrive at conclusions based on a reasoning process that is based on imagined scenarios, making it difficult to trust our own senses and perceptions. But fear not, because Amanda introduces us to the concept of reality sensing. It's all about regaining that trust in ourselves and our own experiences.   In This Episode [01:19] Obsessional doubt versus reasonable doubt [07:57] Inferential confusion and its resolution [09:12] The role of senses in OCD [11:23] Using reality sensing in therapy [13:19] Comparison of inference-based CBT with exposure therapy [18:57] The role of imagination in OCD [18:45] Resources for learning about CBT [20:03] Accessing the online class "Be OCD Free”.   Notable Quotes [05:27] “We don't tend to act on possibilities until something in the present moment tells us to do so. Once we get that information now, it's reasonable to act on it.”  Amanda  [07:41] “Inferential confusion is a fancy word just to say we are confusing reality for imagination. We're distrusting our senses. We're over-relying on possibilities. We're taking things like facts and using them in and out of context.” - Amanda  [13:43] “If we can change the doubt, then everything that follows after the doubt is resolved. But what I mean by that is after the doubt comes the fear, the anxiety, and then the compulsion. If we can address the doubt from the beginning, then none of the rest even happens.” - Amanda   Our Guest Amanda Petrik-Gardner Amanda Petrik-Gardner, LCPC, LPC, LIMHP, is a seasoned Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor spanning Kansas and Maine, and Licensed Professional Counselor across Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, and Missouri. She's also the creator of the OCD Exposure Coloring Book. With expertise in OCD, anxiety, and Body Focused Repetitive Behaviors, Amanda offers teletherapy in several states including Florida, facilitating transformative counseling.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Amanda Petrik-Gardner https://www.amandalcpc.com/ https://www.facebook.com/AnxietyOCDTreatment https://www.instagram.com/anxietyocdtreatment https://twitter.com/AnxietyOCDTx **Disclaimer**   Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Have you ever found yourself caught in a never-ending cycle of anxious thoughts and compulsive behaviors? Do you constantly feel overwhelmed by the intrusive thoughts that seem to control your every move? If so, you're not alone. Millions of people around the world struggle with anxiety disorders and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), but there is hope. In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we're chatting with Dr. Reid Wilson, a clinical psychologist who specializes in anxiety disorders and OCD. With his groundbreaking approach, he has helped countless individuals regain control of their lives and find relief from the grip of anxiety. During our conversation, Dr. Wilson shares his incredible self-help program called the 6-Moment Game. This program is all about empowering individuals to effectively manage their obsessions. And let me tell you, it's a game-changer! Dr. Wilson emphasizes that the content of our obsessions is actually irrelevant. It's all about how we handle them. He introduces us to the concept of the 6-Moment Game, which involves being mindful of the present moment and dealing with obsessions and urges as they come up.   In This Episode [00:47] Introduction to Dr. Reid Wilson and his expertise in self-help for anxiety disorders and OCD  [01:12] The importance of understanding OCD [03:47] Introducing the concept of the 6-Moment Game [04:22] The “six moments” process [11:58] The importance of moving forward and not getting caught up in the prepositional phrases of obsessions [15:55] Self-help treatment and collaborative therapy [19:10] The importance of provoking distressing uncertainty. [20:22] Creating rules and following a game plan [24:32] Understanding the simplicity and difficulty of the process of managing OCD   Notable Quotes [03:40] “The six moments are a manifestation of what we've learned. So we learn about principles. We understand that we're playing a mental game against this really very powerful disorder. And when we kind of learn those principles, we're going to bring them down into the moment.” - Dr. Reid [23:14] “The brain works best when the unconscious mind is out of the way.” - Dr. Reid   Our Guest Dr. Reid Wilson Dr. Reid Wilson is  a recognized expert in anxiety disorders and OCD self-help for over 30 years and leads Anxieties.com, an Anxiety Disorders Treatment Center. He has authored several acclaimed books, including "Stopping the Noise in Your Head: The New Way to Overcome Anxiety and Worry" and "Don't Panic," and has appeared on shows like Oprah and Good Morning America. His contributions were honored by ADAA and the OCD Foundation with their highest awards in 2014 and 2019.   Resources & Links Kristina Orlova, LMFT https://www.instagram.com/ocdwhisperer/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OCDWhispererChannel https://www.korresults.com/ https://www.onlineocdacademy.com Dr. Reid Wilson https://anxieties.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/rreidwilson/   ** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy. Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets and sign up for our newsletter: OCD Survival Kit + Newsletter Sign Up   Or if you are ready to dive into workshops to break the grips of your OCD, go to www.korresults.com/e-learning *** Brace yourself for an episode that will revolutionize your perspective on ERP therapy. In this dynamic discussion, we're diving deep into the world of Justice-Based ERP Therapy, a groundbreaking approach that's changing the game for OCD treatment. Join me as I sit down with two leading experts in the field, who shed light on the potent impact of Justice-Based ERP in conquering OCD challenges. From exposure exercises to cultivating resilience, we'll explore how this innovative methodology harnesses justice principles to foster empowerment and healing. Dr. Caitlin Pinciotti: https://www.cmpinciotti.com/ https://twitter.com/cmpinciotti Dr. Lauren Wadsworth: https://laurenwadsworth.com/ https://gviproc.org/   *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets and sign up for our newsletter: OCD Survival Kit + Newsletter Sign Up   Or if you are ready to dive into ERP, ICBT, or Sneaky Rituals masterclasses, go to www.korresults.com/e-learning *** Welcome to the OCD Whisperer Podcast, where we dive deep into the fascinating world of OCD and explore powerful treatments that can change lives! In this eye-opening episode, we'll be shining a spotlight on Disgust-Based OCD, a lesser-known but equally impactful subtype of OCD. Join me as I sit down with our incredible guest, an expert in the field, to unravel the symptoms and complexities of Disgust-Based OCD. Ever wondered how this unique form of OCD manifests? We've got you covered with insights on its distinctive symptoms and how it can affect daily life. But that's not all! We'll also be exploring the world of treatment options. From gaining mastery over avoided places to the effectiveness of Exposure Response Prevention (ERP), we'll uncover how these techniques can empower individuals to reclaim control over their lives and find freedom from Disgust-Based OCD. If you're curious about this compelling subtype of OCD or seeking guidance on treatment strategies, this episode is an absolute must-watch! So, grab your popcorn, hit that follow button, and let's embark on a journey of understanding and empowerment together!

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Or if you are ready to dive into ERP, ICBT, or Sneaky Rituals masterclasses, go to www.korresults.com/onlineresources *** Join host Kristina Orlova as she sits down with the incredible Dr. Stern to tackle some burning questions about OCD, PTSD, and two powerful treatments - ERP and PE.   Drumroll, please!

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com/onlineresources *** Hey there, OCD fam! I sit down with the amazing Dr. Eva Fisher to dive into the world of Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD). Get ready for a candid chat about Dr. Fisher's personal journey, treatment experiences, recovery, and her incredible book, "The BDD Family Book." Join us as we uncover how Dr. Fisher first discovered she had BDD. Hear the real-life moments that led to her understanding and recognizing this complex disorder. It's a story you won't want to miss! We'll also explore Dr. Fisher's treatment journey and the strategies that helped her on the path to recovery. From therapy approaches to self-care techniques, we'll uncover the tools that made a difference in her healing process. Don't forget to hit that follow button to join our OCD community and stay tuned for more videos on all things OCD. Social Links: https://feartocourage.com/thebddfamily-book/ Email: eva@recoveryfrombdd.com *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com/onlineresources *** Join me and our guest Paul McCarrol as we delve into the world of OCD, providing valuable insights and shedding light on how we can navigate our internal struggles with choice and empowerment.   In this episode, we tackle three essential questions: Why do people with OCD engage in compulsions? What are healthy alternatives to compulsions? The role of stress and exhaustion in OCD.   We aim to illustrate that we have the power to choose how we respond to our challenging internal experiences. Discover strategies for breaking free from the grip of OCD using Exposure Response Prevention, embracing healthier alternatives, and managing stress effectively. Subscribe now to embark on a journey of understanding, empowerment, and choice. Together, let's challenge the stigma surrounding OCD and inspire others to take control of their lives. Paul McCarrol can be found at: https://www.befreefromocd.com/ *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!  

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com   Take control of your OCD with the "Be OCD Free" course. Start your ERP journey and say goodbye to intrusive thoughts. Learn practical strategies and take the first step towards a brighter, OCD-free future. You get video lessons, journal prompts, worksheets, step by step process of how to apply these tools and some bonuses (like a couple of guided meditations recorded just for you!) https://www.korresults.com/e-learning   *** Today I talk with Drew Linsalata of The Anxious Truth about agoraphobia. We get into what is it, how can a person recognize symptoms and what can you do about it. To learn more about Drews works: Drew's website Drew's Instagram     *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com   Take control of your OCD with the "Be OCD Free" course. Start your ERP journey and say goodbye to intrusive thoughts. Learn practical strategies and take the first step towards a brighter, OCD-free future. You get video lessons, journal prompts, worksheets, step by step process of how to apply these tools and some bonuses (like a couple of guided meditations recorded just for you!) https://www.korresults.com/e-learning   *** On this episode of the OCD Whisperer Show, we're joined by Dr. Nathaniel Van Kirk, who is a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and currently serves as the Director of Psychology for the OCD Institute at McLean Hospital and is the President of OCD Massachusetts. We dived into the topic of motivation and OCD. Dr. Van Kirk can be found at: https://www.mcleanhospital.org   *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!