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On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene sits down with Chris Lopez, co-founder of Property Llama, real estate investor, entrepreneur, and host of the Passive Pockets and Denver Investment Real Estate podcasts, to talk about building, managing, and rebalancing a real estate portfolio. Chris shares how reading Rich Dad Poor Dad in college introduced him to entrepreneurship and investing, eventually leading him from internet businesses and unsuccessful attempts at day trading into real estate. He explains how he bought his first rental property in 2011 with zero money down, lived in it for a period of time, and initially assumed he would hold it forever. The conversation then explores the important lesson Chris learned about using equity. After watching his first property grow from roughly $67,000 to nearly $200,000 while producing only modest cash flow, Chris realized he needed to think differently about the capital trapped inside his portfolio. He ultimately used a 1031 exchange to move that equity into a fourplex and dramatically increase his cash flow. Chris explains why he began treating his real estate portfolio like an investment portfolio that needs to be regularly rebalanced. He walks through his keep, refinance, or sell framework and explains how changing markets, family circumstances, risk tolerance, and available returns can all change whether a property still makes sense to own. He also discusses how this thinking led to the creation of Property Llama, a platform designed to help investors analyze their properties and make better portfolio decisions. Finally, Chris and Jonathan discuss return on equity, passive investing, syndications, debt funds, diversification, and the importance of taking responsibility for your investment decisions. Chris explains why he has increasingly shifted toward passive investments and real estate debt, and why investors should focus on building a portfolio that fits their current life rather than simply accumulating as many properties as possible. In this episode, you will hear: How Chris went from reading Rich Dad Poor Dad in college to becoming an entrepreneur and real estate investor Why Chris sold his first rental property and used a 1031 exchange to redeploy its equity into a fourplex How the keep, refinance, or sell framework can help investors regularly rebalance their real estate portfolios Why return on equity, opportunity cost, and changing life circumstances should influence your investment decisions How Chris's experience led to Property Llama and his growing focus on passive investing, syndications, and real estate debt Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover the show and supports its continued growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Chris: Website - http://propertyllama.com/ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BuildingWealthWithRealEstate LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christaylorlopez/ Connect with Jonathan: Podcast - www.zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com YouTube - www.youtube.com/JonathanGreenere Instagram - www.instagram.com/zenrealestateinvesting Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting Jonathan's Hub Site - www.trustgreene.com Brokerage - https://www.streamlined.properties This episode was produced by Outlier Audio.
Join Keith, Terry, and Matthew live for a properties event on September 30th. Sign up here: GetRichEducation.com/MidSouth Keith Weinhold asks why so many people end up competing in the "Grind Olympics" of the traditional day job, and explains why separating income from time is key to building real wealth. He then counts down the top five ways to give a rental property a raise by increasing its net operating income, and points to the lever investors most often overlook. Keith also looks at what has happened to home prices during every major stock market crash since 1980, and shows why negotiating better financing terms can beat simply getting a lower purchase price. He offers practical strategies for building cash flow, creating value and investing with more confidence in any market. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review" For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold 0:01 Welcome to GRE. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Does your day job have you competing in the Grind Olympics? It's something that you never signed up for, and the top five ways to increase your rental property's income. Then, when stocks crash, what happens to real estate? You'll see historically today on Get Rich Education. What if I told you that one of America's strongest cash flow real estate markets is also becoming the new brains and brawn behind AI? That city is Memphis, believe it or not. In September 30th, we're going to show you why the smart money is paying attention now, along with an investing opportunity you won't want to miss. Join me, Terry Kerr and Matthew Van Horn of Mid South Homebuyers, the largest turnkey company in Memphis with more than 6000 homes under management, for a free live webinar the likes of which I've never done before. We're going to look at what billions in new investment could mean for jobs, housing demand, neighborhood appreciation, and your portfolio. Everyone who attends live will also get exclusive access to the best deal terms Mid South has ever offered. Reserve your free seat at getricheducation.com/midsouth again. that september 30. Don't say we didn't tell you. Save your spot at getricheducation.com/midsouth. Speaker 1 1:34 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education. Keith Weinhold 1:50 Welcome to GRE from Wheeling, West Virginia, to Whiting, Indiana, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to Get Rich Education. Before I get into basically giving your rental property a raise with the top five ways to increase its income, first let's get the context of pulling back and understanding your compelling why for all of this. You may or may not like investment property itself-it's more likely rather that you love what it does for you. That's how it is for me. What do most people do? It's like they're training for the Grind Olympics. Are you doing this too? But you don't remember signing up? I mean, that's kind of what the day job is, society's vortex gradually pulls you into it. The investment property is what gradually tilts you out of it, or it gives you that option. For so many, the day job, it's sort of like this competition that really no one officially announces it yet. Millions enter it. Who can work the longest hours? Who can answer the most emails? Who can miss the most family dinners? Who can delay their life the longest? And at the end of it all, something we call retirement. If you're a winner, not a loser. The winner, you receive a gold-colored watch, lukewarm sheet cake, and a little party at age 65, and that's assuming that the finish line hasn't been moved to 70. Keith Weinhold 3:40 This is especially bad and prevalent in the United States, where you start out with just two weeks vacation. That's about the worst grind in the developed world. I really myself started questioning this lifestyle when I was a teenager, and this is because my older friends, sort of those that were getting into their late teens, they were relatable to me, and they started going down this path and telling me about it. And suddenly, they couldn't play baseball or tennis with me during the day because they started working during their summers. Now that's not so bad in itself, but stay with me. I also looked at the adults around me and noticed that most traded the majority of their waking hours for work that they didn't even like. Now, my dad was a good worker. He worked 7 a.m. to 3 p.m. faithfully Monday to Friday, and despite being a good worker, he certainly didn't love his job. As a teen, then I found it confounding that so many people were working Monday through Friday, primarily why, primarily to reach the weekend. Wednesday was celebrated as. Day, this sort of strange admission that the work week was something to climb over and survive. You're surrendering 50 weeks to earn two weeks of vacation. You're repeating that very bargain for 40 years and hoping you still have enough money, energy, and health to enjoy retirement. And what puzzled me most was where this was happening. We are not some impoverished nation with paltry resources and limited opportunity. This is the United States, the most powerful and perhaps the most prosperous nation in the world. Keith Weinhold 5:40 This is the part that I still can't work out in my head. Almost everybody falls into a narrow, rigid groove and grinds. Eventually, the groove becomes a rut. Then the rut gets a job title and a dental plan. Many even form their identity around this. Fear is the number one motivator that gets employees to show up at work. So then, do most people lead fear-based lives? It's almost insane. Sheesh! We have skyscrapers, interstate highways, world-class universities, abundant natural resources, advantageous geography, rule of law. We've got vast capital markets. We've got technology that sent people to the moon before I was born. Endless possibilities, but yet the standard life plan is to spend our most vivacious years doing something that we didn't even want to do. What a paradox! How could a nation create so much wealth while so many people have such little control over their own time? Even then, as a teenager, I remember thinking, "Gosh, there has got to be a better way than this system somehow. I didn't yet know the way, so I started going to college at age 18. Keith Weinhold 7:16 But this path put me on that same trajectory of get good grades, land a job, max up my 401k, which would reduce my salary, and work for four decades, and then cross my fingers and just somehow hope that promotions, inflation, taxes, a stock market that I couldn't control, and life itself would cooperate. I mean, that plan could kind of work, but your time is still doing most of the work. Your employer rents your time usually one hour at a time, and if you stop supplying the hours, then soon enough your income stops too. Capital compound. labor doesn't. The better path is to gradually separate your income from your time. That's what I began doing when, while I was working full time, I bought my first income-producing rental property a few years later, a few years after college, in fact, doing that on the side, divergent, black sheep. I was stepping out of the groove. Now I own an asset that created leverage and income, whether I'm working, sleeping, camping, climbing a mountain, or spending time with my family. So the goal then it's not to avoid hard work entirely. I mean, meaningful work that can even provide some purpose and achievement and pride. But what provides wealth? What are you going to do for that? Wealth is what happens when you're not working. Wealth is what happens when you're sleeping. Labor produces income. Assets create wealth. Grinding should be a season, even your contribution to society, but not your primarily financial strategy. So the bottom line is that we don't want to win the grind Olympics, income-producing assets help us build a life that we don't have to postpone. The entire conventional life plan, the whole thing, just never felt right to me. Intuitively and rationally, deep down, you know, think to yourself: Doesn't at least some part of you feel that way too? Thank God that I found real estate. I don't love it. I love what it does for me. You've got to love what it does for you. Keith Weinhold 9:54 One attribute that your income property gives you is control. So. With that in mind, I put together the top five ways to increase your rental property income countdown style from number five to number one. Since you do own an asset that you can control, so we're talking about giving your rental property a raise here, and you know your property does not even need to appreciate in order for you to make it more valuable, your property doesn't need to sit around waiting for the market to appreciate like it's waiting for a promotion from corporate or something, which always takes too long. You can manufacture more income yourself. So net operating income or NOI, it only has two moving parts. It is property income minus operating expenses. Push income up or pull expenses down, and you've effectively given yourself a raise. Better yet, on an income-valued property like a five-plus unit apartment building, every additional dollar of NOI can create far more than $1 of property value. So here are the top five ways to increase your property's income. Keith Weinhold 11:10 The fifth best way is to add ancillary income, because monthly rent it's not the only asset inside your property. Now, depending on what property type you have and what the local laws are, you can charge for pets, parking, storage, laundry, furnishings. You can charge for internet packages, utility reimbursement, reserved garages, upgraded amenities, or you can even charge in some cases for application, administrative, or lease break fees. The best ancillary income it provides something that the resident genuinely values. We're here to serve and give value to others. Importantly, it should feel like an option for your tenant with these things, not some toll booth placed between the tenant and their front door. We know how annoying it is to have a tip screen swung around and placed in your face. Even an additional 25 or $50 per unit each month that can become meaningful across several properties. The fourth best way is to cut your controllable operating expenses, and you know what most investors do, and it is easy to fall into this, and I certainly have too at times. You know, most investors they carefully negotiate the property's purchase price at the beginning, and then they spend years casually accepting every recurring bill, audit your expenses rather than just accepting last year's cost plus inflation. Keith Weinhold 12:49 So closely look at your property management fees, landscaping and snow removal, pest control, cleaning, trash service, water consumption, and any leaks that you might have. Common area electricity, repair labor and material markups, service contracts, and preventive maintenance. Gosh, I really lost a lot of money in pest control one time when the pest would just move from one apartment unit to the other, and we just couldn't get it trapped or stopped. Loyalty is admirable in marriage. It is less compelling when your landscaping company raises its price 14% every year. So solicit competing bids, consolidate your vendors where you can, install efficient fixtures where the payback period makes sense and where the break-even math works. But now, don't confuse expense reduction with maintenance neglect. Keith Weinhold 13:53 That is one danger. So you know, if you delay a $300 repair until it becomes a $3,000 emergency, well, that really doesn't increase your NOI. It merely makes this month's numbers lie. Now, as I tell you about this list, you might think sometimes, "Oh, I've heard of that one before. Okay, but yeah, are you actually doing it? The third best way to increase your property's income is to challenge taxes and shop insurance because property taxes and insurance they are really among your property's largest operating expenses. So therefore, if you get good at this, you can both increase your net income and you will have gained a new skill that you can apply later and elsewhere. Yet you know a lot of owners they treat property tax and insurance sort of like the weather. They complain about them and then they just assume that nothing can be done. Possible moves that you can make are appealing in excessive property tax assessment, correct inaccurate property records. You can compare insurance carriers as often as annually. Adjust your deductibles when it's appropriate. Be sure you remove redundant coverage. Make sure that there's no overlap there. You can add safety or resilience improvements that qualify for insurance discounts, and then at the same time, sometimes that improves your property's value. You can check the property's classification and claims history for any errors there. So you know every legitimate dollar saved that flows directly into your NOI, your net operating income. Remember, mortgage payments though they do not factor into NOI. Neither do major capital expenditures. Refinancing can improve your cash flow, but that does not increase the property's NOI, and that's what we're talking about today. But when it comes to property tax appeals, you remember a while back on the show, perhaps a year ago, I went into detail on just how you can do that. Keith Weinhold 16:00 Now we're up to number two. The second best way to increase your NOI is to raise rents intelligently, and really this is the most obvious strategy. But it isn't as simple as typing a larger number into your renewal letter and then just sort of hoping that your tenant doesn't notice. Bring rents closer to market without automatically chasing the absolute maximum. That can include gradual increases at renewal, premiums for upgraded units. How about a premium for the unit with the best view? If you have one of those, higher rent for furnished units, appropriate charges for garages or shorter lease terms. I mean, shorter lease terms, like a six month instead of a 12 month, that can get you a bump up in the rent. Be sure to eliminate any unnecessary concessions, like the first month's rent is free. Do you really have to continue to do that? And use better listing photos and copy to support higher rents. It's easy to have AI write some good snappy copy for you today. So the objective here is economic occupancy, not merely the highest advertised rent, because raising the rent $100, if that's going to create an extra month of vacancy that is stepping over dollars to pick up dimes. Know the market, understand the tenant, and make increases that improve NOI rather than merely improving the asking price for the REM. And the top way, the number one way to increase NOI is reduce vacancy and turnover. Yes, you might have heard that before, but it is still the most overlooked NOI lever, even though it's number one. An occupied unit at a sensible rent that often produces more income than an overpriced empty one. Keith Weinhold 17:58 The way to improve your occupancy is by you starting renewal conversations 60 to 90 days before that lease comes due. Respond quickly to maintenance requests. I mean, few things frustrate a tenant more than a ceiling that is leaked for a month. Pre-market an upcoming vacancy that you have. Start that process early. Complete your turns faster, screen residents carefully, and unless you're in an especially hot market, consider offering renewal incentives when turnover would cost you substantially more than doing that. So there are a bunch of ideas for reducing vacancy and turnover. Another one, more of a modern-day one, is for you to buy and operate new build property because tenants tend to stay in new builds longer. They love that feeling that no one has ever lived there before. Suppose a unit rents for $1,800 a month. All right. Well, then one vacant month costs you $1,800 before cleaning, repairs, utilities, advertising, and leasing expenses. So the true cost of that turnover could easily be three or $4,000. And when you consider that, then giving a good resident a $250 one time renewal incentive that doesn't look generous that looks profitable for you. Keeping a responsible tenant, you know that might be the biggest quote unquote rent increase available. Just simply keeping a responsible tenant because occupied properties produce income, and empty properties produce invoices. Keith Weinhold 19:48 Now that I've told you about the five ways to increase your property's income, let me give you some more motivation for this. It's about how $250 can become 50. $1,000. Suppose you select just a few of these five improvements, and say that that increases your NOI by just $250 per month. Okay, that's nice. That's cash in your pocket, and if you happen to apply it to a five-plus unit apartment building, since it's also valued on NOI. You take 250 bucks times 12. That is $3,000 a year at a 6% capitalization rate. Take 3000 divided by point 06. That is $50,000. You just created 50k of additional property value from only $250 of monthly NOI creation. Yeah, you are up 50k now, and here's the thing: you did not do anything that substantial. It's not like you added another story to a property, or you discovered oil underneath your parking lot, or you convinced a celebrity to move in. Okay, these are practical things that you can do in control. You simply operated the property better, and this forced appreciation relationship that applies most directly, though, to commercial and larger multifamily properties because those are the types that are valued based upon their income. A single-family rental or a duplex or a fourplex that is generally appraised primarily through comparable sales. So its higher NOI might not immediately produce the same increase in appraised value, but in either case, higher NOI it still means more cash flow for you, a stronger financial cushion, and a better performing investment. The bottom line here is that you can wait for the market to increase your property's value, or you can operate the property better and create value yourself, raise income, control expenses, and keep good residents. That is how you improve NOI without increasing your blood pressure. Keith Weinhold 22:10 Coming up on the next few shows, we're going to speak with the original co-author of the book Rich Dad Poor Dad. Yes, we had Robert Kiyosaki on here earlier this year, but we're going to talk with the co-author alongside Robert Kiyosaki. A lot of people don't know who that is. That is going to be interesting on another upcoming episode. The man that wrote the book on the 8020 rule called the Pareto principle, he will be here. That's where 80% of the results come from. 20% of the effort. So here on GRE, there's a lot of education, strategy, and mindset coming up straight ahead today. When stocks crash, what happens to real estate? That's next. I'm Keith Weinhold. You're listening to Get Rich Education. Let me ask you something: If you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals. A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom Family Investments offers freedom notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. 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Kirsten Tate 24:31 This is author Kristen Tate. Listen to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your daydream. Keith Weinhold 24:49 Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I'm your host Keith Weinhold, and this is episode 625. AI songs are becoming more popular. Fortunately. AI podcast hosts-they really aren't that much of a thing yet, or else I might not be here. Thank goodness that listeners still want to hear from a real person. When stocks crash, what happens to home prices? Since 1980, there have been 10 or more major stock downturns. Guess how many of those cause national home prices to crash? Exactly zero. Now there was one pretty enormous housing decline, but that one started in housing. And what happens next? It reveals something that every real estate investor should understand a lot like real estate right now. Stocks are hovering near their all-time highs. Okay, both major assets, real estate and stocks, bumping up against all-time highs. There is a predictable rhythm about what happens to real estate when stocks crash. Now, when we look at stocks' seven big downturns that occurred just this century, as measured by the S&P 500, you know, first a lot of people think that stocks are overvalued here in the late 2020s. That is based on measures like the historic P/E ratio, the Shiller cape ratio, and the Buffett indicator. I mean, some investors are just disillusioned by how stocks' movement makes so little sense anymore. For example, when the latest labor number showed that 162,000 jobs were added in a month. That tripled expectations. I mean, people should have been like, "Hey, go USA! This is great. People are employed. All that. Nope. The stock market fell specifically in response to that. Why? Because strong employment increases the chances of higher interest rates, and sure enough, the Fed did then raise rates. Keith Weinhold 27:09 Oh, geez, what? So a labor market collapse is then bad for America, and that's good for stocks. Yes, that is how it works. That is just stupid. So, with that context in mind, let's see what actually happened to national home prices this century during all the major stock market downturns that were not caused by housing, and then we'll get back to housings. Okay, during the dot-com bust in 9/11, that whole period about 25 years ago, stocks again. This is all per the S and p5 100 crashed 49% Home prices were up 23% during that time. We'll get back to the global financial crisis shortly. During the 2011 debt ceiling crisis, do you even remember that stocks went down 19 percent. Home prices went down just slightly, 1 percent. During the 2018 Fed tightening and trade war sell-off, stocks were down 20 percent, a classic bear market. Home prices were up 1 percent. Then came COVID. In barely a month, stocks plunged a jaw-dropping 34% This was in 2020. It was like a flash crash. What happened to home prices then? They were up 1% just a little. So, are you beginning to see a pattern, or perhaps a lack of one here during 2022's inflation peak and Fed tightening bear market stocks fell 25 percent. Home prices they were up 4% during that time period, and then during the 2025 tariff sell-off, you might remember Trump called that Liberation Day. Stocks were down 19 percent. Home prices. were essentially unchanged. Keith Weinhold 29:06 All right, so there they were: six major stock market downturns this century, not one housing crash. All right, now let's turn the telescope around because 2008 was different since the crash was real estate induced, and it is the only time in the life of you or I or anyone alive today, even a 90-year-old, where national home prices took a significant fall. In fact, they were down 27 percent, and it took them a few years to fall that much. All right. Well, what did stocks do during this period? They fell even more, down 57% more than twice as much, 57% I mean, just imagine having a million-dollar stock portfolio and seeing its value cave in, down to 430k from a million. Okay, that's what really happened march 6, 2009, when the S and P hit its global financial crisis low, and that happened over a 17 month stock collapse. Okay, so what's really the summary? It is that in the six times that stocks led a price crash this century. Real estate held up, or it rose, and the one time real estate led the crash, stocks fell more than twice as much. Keith Weinhold 30:31 It was 27 %versus 57%. All right. Well, that is what's happened this century. But you know this cause and effect relationship or lack thereof, that didn't just begin happening in 2000. When we stretch the history back to 1980, which is Jimmy Carter, almost Ronald Reagan era days, stocks had four more big downturns. We had the Volcker Bear Market, the famous 1987 Black Monday stock market crash, the Gulf War sell-off, and the LTCM crisis. During those four stock crashes, home prices also either stayed resilient or they rose. All right. Well, all of this is because homes and stocks, you know, they just aren't connected by some push and pull relationship. Stocks reprice in seconds. Fear spreads. Algorithms sell, and billions of dollars can disappear before lunch. Instead, housing moves more like a cargo ship that you're trying to turn around in the Mississippi River, it can take a long time. Housing transactions take months. Prices depend on local supply and local incomes, and mortgage availability, and whether homeowners are actually forced to sell. Housing provides something that every human actually needs and cannot be easily disrupted by AI. I mean, AI still cannot download a three-bedroom house onto a vacant lot. And of course, during any stock crash, what else happens with real estate? Your rent just keeps coming in as well. So the bottom line here is we're learning from history rather than having a hunch again. Home prices don't react to stock market crashes. Stock crashes and housing downturns are different events. Keith Weinhold 32:32 A falling stock market it can eventually weaken consumer confidence. In in a severe recession, some of that can trickle in and affect housing, but history shows that a stock crash alone has not caused national home prices to fall. When stocks scream, real estate just kind of shrugs. Now, as we get back to talking about today, with real estate being cash flow challenged, you usually need a deal in order to make the numbers work. And as we know, for more than two years now, it has been wise to buy new build property and have that home builder buy down your mortgage rate rather than getting a property price discount. And do you realize that it actually works out better for you in almost every case for you to get your rate bought down than it is to get a discount. Yeah, it is often substantially better. Let's just think about an example. Say you're putting a 20% down payment on a 300k property at a seven and a half percent mortgage rate. Okay, let's compare your seller discounting the purchase price by 20k versus them instead using 20k to buy down your mortgage rate. All right, in the first scenario, let's call it then a purchase price reduction. The seller reduces it from 300k down to 280k. Your monthly payment would be 1566 $1,566. All right. Well, then your monthly savings from the price discount would be $112. You would also need 4k less for the down payment. Okay, 112 bucks a month is helpful to you. Keith Weinhold 34:18 That might buy you dinner for two at the Olive Garden or something, at a wildly overpriced airport convenience store. By the way, this is a bottle of water and one almond, 112 bucks. Okay, but now let's compare it with the second option. If instead of a price discount, you pay the full 300k and use the 20k as a seller credit, a credit from the seller, and you use that to permanently buy the mortgage rate from seven and a half down to five and a half percent. In this case, even though it's a larger amount financed, your monthly payment is no longer 1566. It's just 1363, so your monthly savings is no longer 112 bucks. That Olive Garden dinner for two, it is 315 bucks. So therefore, using the seller credit instead of reducing the purchase price that ups your monthly cash flow by about 203 bucks. All right, and this was just an illustration. It's not a universal lender rate sheet carved into a stone tablet. But the larger lesson remains. Okay, terms are often more important than price. Negotiate the financing. That is the lesson. And of course, you can try to use this most anywhere with any seller, but it's been especially popular with American home builders for two plus years now. Keith Weinhold 35:47 The bottom line is that the best deal isn't always the property with the lowest price; it is the one with the best financing, and it's one of the strategies that Mid South Homebuyers is going to offer on Wednesday night's webinar just two days away, and there's no negotiation needed. They are offering this, and it's where I'm going to be appearing live, and you're invited to join us from the comfort of your home or a coffee shop or wherever you are. So we're talking about properties in Memphis, Little Rock, and North Texas. New build properties for as little as about 200k, and some fully renovated resale properties for as little as 150k, and even less than that. Now, low price isn't reason enough to own an income property, but it's the fact that you get a strong rent in a stable market to support that, and they're offering what they call their triple five terms. They'll buy your mortgage rate down into the fives and provide property management for just a 5% fee for five years. And I just learned that for attendees of Wednesday night's event, they will even announce a promo code there, and you will get triple five terms for life on both financed and cash deals. Keith Weinhold 37:12 And you know, I've got to say that when I began in real estate investing, I wish that any of this would have existed. Like when I began, I wish there even would have been new build property available. They just didn't even have that for income property when I started out. And the fact that it's managed for you from day one, I didn't know about that when I started out. I thought I had to invest only in my home market and then manage it myself. And here you get investor advantaged geographic markets, and then if that's not enough, you get that rate buy down into the fives and property management costs. It's basically cut in half to help improve your property's cash flow, and you can almost think of this as lifetime cash flow. You get to control a sustainable business model that's resistant to AI disruption, and yeah, it's sustainable. I mean, people will pay you to live there. That has happened for centuries. It's sort of the opposite of a cryptocurrency that will not exist in two years. It happens Wednesday night. You'll get to see me live along with the renowned providers from Mid South Homebuyers and their properties and their generous incentives and all the new AI investment that's acting as a tailwind coming into Memphis. Registration is free at getricheducation.com/midsouth. It's 8p.m. Eastern on Wednesday night. I'll see you there, getricheduceducation.com/midsouth. Until next week, I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream. Speaker 2 38:57 Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal, or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively. Keith Weinhold 39:25 The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building. Getricheduceducation.com
Travis and producer Eric dive into the controversy surrounding Robert Kiyosaki's reported $1.2 billion in debt and why a single headline rarely tells the full story. They break down leverage, real estate debt, cash flow, asset values, and the difference between personal debt and debt tied to businesses or investment entities. The conversation also explores the psychology of carrying massive amounts of debt, the concept of being “too big to fail,” and why assumptions about someone's financial situation can be misleading without the underlying numbers. On this episode we talk about: Why $1.2 billion in debt doesn't tell you whether Robert Kiyosaki's financial strategy is working The importance of looking at asset values, cash flow, and debt structure before judging an investment How business entities, partnerships, LLCs, and other structures can change the way debt is held The concept of being “too big to fail” and how bailouts can affect large companies differently than small businesses Why Kiyosaki's success with Rich Dad Poor Dad and related business ventures matters when considering his overall financial picture The tendency to dismiss successful people as incompetent or assume criticism comes from jealousy Why having someone else's lifestyle isn't necessarily the same as wanting specific aspects of their success Travis's thoughts on fame, financial success, and what a fulfilling life actually looks like Top 3 Takeaways Look beyond the headline. A large debt number by itself doesn't tell you whether a financial strategy is good or bad. You need to understand the assets, cash flow, interest costs, ownership structure, and who is actually responsible for the debt. Don't confuse criticism with jealousy. Disagreeing with or criticizing someone's actions doesn't automatically mean you want what they have. It's possible to recognize someone's success while deciding that their lifestyle isn't something you'd want for yourself. Success isn't one-size-fits-all. A massive exit, wealth, or fame might be appealing in certain ways without making you want the entire life that comes with it. It's worth separating the specific outcomes you admire from the lifestyle required to achieve them. Notable Quotes “There's a lot of variables in $1.2 billion dollars in debt that could say whether or not it's a good idea or a bad idea.” “I cannot imagine just being comfortable with that much debt.” “To assume that it just means that he doesn't know what he's doing is silly.” Connect with Travis Chappell: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/travischappell/ Other: https://travischappell.com/ A Word from Our Sponsors: - The most successful business owners don't do it all themselves — they delegate. Upwork lets you build a team of highly skilled specialists for every function your business needs, so you can focus on what you do best and let experts handle the rest. Visit Upwork.com right now and post your job for free! - Scribe captures workflows as work happens and automatically generates step-by-step guides with screenshots and instructions, so no one has to sit down and write documentation from scratch. Learn more at scribe.how/tmm and mention Travis Makes Money for your first month of Scribe Capture free on select plans. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of the Ecomm Breakthrough Podcast, host Josh Hadley interviews Leo Sgovio, CEO of Convomat, an influencer and affiliate marketing software for Amazon sellers. Leo shares insights from his research on Amazon's A9 algorithm, emphasizing semantic relevance in product listings and competitor-based keyword strategies. Josh highlights actionable takeaways, including competitor targeting campaigns, keyword optimization in product images, and leveraging Amazon's search query performance data. Leo also discusses his productivity tool, Be Focused, recommends Rich Dad Poor Dad and Think and Grow Rich, and encourages listeners to follow industry leaders for continued learning.Timestamps:Introduction to the Ecomm Breakthrough Podcast (00:00:00)Host Josh Hadley introduces the podcast, guest Leo Sgovio, and the episode's topics: the A9 algorithm and influencer campaigns.Sponsor Message: Ecomm Breakthrough Consulting (00:00:44)Josh Hadley discusses his consulting services, helping seven-figure brands grow to eight figures, and offers a free strategy audit session.Introducing Leo Leo Sgovio (00:02:00)Josh provides a detailed introduction to Leo Sgovio, highlighting his extensive experience in e-commerce, SEO, and influencer marketing.Researching Amazon's A9 Algorithm (00:04:17)Leo discusses his research into Amazon's A9 patents, focusing on the "cold start" problem for new product launches.The Importance of Semantic Relevance (00:07:26)Leo explains why creating a semantically relevant listing, similar to top competitors, is crucial for ranking on Amazon.Actionable Takeaways Summary (00:09:27)Josh summarizes the episode's key takeaways, including competitor targeting, adding keywords to images, and using search query performance data.Favorite and Most Influential Books (00:12:51)Leo shares his most influential books, citing "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" and "Think and Grow Rich" as life-changing reads.Favorite Productivity Tool (00:13:19)Leo recommends the "Be Focused" app, a timer-based tool that helps him complete daily tasks without getting distracted.Admired E-commerce Leaders (00:14:45)Leo suggests listeners follow host Josh Hadley and also mentions Ezra Firestone as a humble and relevant industry leader.How to Connect with Leo Sgovio (00:16:12)Leo shares the best ways to connect with him, recommending LinkedIn, Facebook, and his personal website for contact.Links and Mentions:Tools and Websites "Unified Patent Scheme": "00:05:28" "Jungle Scout": "00:12:04" "Convomat Connect": "00:12:24" "Be Focused": "00:13:29" Books "Rich Dad Poor Dad": "00:13:03" "Think and Grow Rich": "00:13:11" Notable Mentions "Ezra Firestone": "00:15:01" Additional Notes "ChatGPT Prompts": "00:16:47"Transcripts:Josh Hadley 00:00:00 Welcome to the Ecomm Breakthrough Podcast. I'm your host, Josh Hadley, where I interview the top business leaders in e-commerce. Past guests include Kevin King, Michael E Gerber, the author of the E! Myth, and Steven Pope. Today, I'm speaking with Leo Sgovio, CEO and founder of Convomat, an influencer and affiliate marketing software for Amazon sellers. And we're going to be talking a lot about the A9 algorithm, finding hidden keywords on Amazon and how to increase your ranking and sales with influencer campaigns. This episode is brought to you by Ecom Breakthrough Consulting, where I help seven figure companies grow to eight figures and beyond. Listen, Leo, I started my business back in 2015 and grew it to an eight figure brand in seven years, but there were a lot of mistakes I made along the way that made the path of getting to eight figures take a lot longer than it really needed to. There were times where I doubted my abilities as a leader, whether I could actually manage a team of people and become a CEO.Josh Hadley 00:01:00 I doubted whether our brand could actually survive and thrive on the Amazon platform. And I also had concerns whether we would have the cash flow to be able to continue to grow the business. And so to all of our listeners, I wish I would have had a guide along the way. And if you're in that same boat and you want to know the next steps to take your business to the next level, then go to Ecom Breakthrough Comm, that's ecom with two M's to learn more. And as a special bonus to my podcast. Podcast listeners. This month I'm giving away one over $10,000, a comprehensive business strategy audit session at no cost. All you need to do is email me at Josh at Ecom breakthrough. Com and in your subject line say strategy audit and then plead your case as to why I should choose you and your brand to work with for this month. And if you don't win this month, don't worry, you'll be entered to win for future months to come. But today I am super excited to introduce you all to Leo Scorpio.Josh Hadley 00:02:00 Leo is an entrepreneur with a strong passion for digital marketing and technology. With over 15 years of experience in the e-commerce space. Leo has started his career as an SEO and pay per click advertising specialist. Throughout his career, Leo worked with technology solutions from companies such as Google and Adobe and developed automated marketing software for e-commerce sellers, leveraging chat bots to launch and scale private label brands on Amazon. After exiting one of his brands, he founded Convomat Connect, an influencer and affiliate marketing platform for Amazon sellers, and he continues to launch new products on Amazon. So with that warm introduction, welcome to the show, Leo.Leo Sgovio 00:02:45 Hey, Josh, thank you for having me. I appreciate it, Leo.Josh Hadley 00:02:48 I am super excited to have you on. We met originally at the Billion Dollar Seller Summit and that was back in 2022. And I've been following you since we've we've stayed in contact. And man, every time I hear you, whether it be on a podcast or on a stage like you just have a brilliant mind and you know, I always come away with a lot of value.Josh Hadley 00:03:11 So I personally am really excited to hear some of the new things you're going to be talking about on the podcast today, and I'm sure our listeners are going to appreciate that as well.Leo Sgovio 00:03:22 Well, that's flattering. And, you know, I have to say you were the winner last year of the the contest, the best hack contest. So I also learned something from you, which is, which was very impressive. And, so I'm really excited to be here as your guest, but also, you know, like, learn from you as well. So thanks for having me again.Josh Hadley 00:03:42 Awesome. Well, Leah, we've got a lot to dive into today. And so what I want to do, obviously, as you know, many of our listeners are seven figure sellers and they are trying to grow to that eight figures and beyond. And so we want to share with them all the actionable strategies that they can implement that is going to help them grow their brand. And what I think before we hit record here today, we talked about some of the things you have been doing recently, and you had talked about some of the research that you had been doing on the A9 algorithm that I think not many people have been talking about.Josh Hadley 00:04:17 You know, some of the things that you discovered during your re...
We're still surprised people did this but... 50+ founders worth $10M to $4B reveal their personal finances. Here it is: https://joinhampton.com/mw-wrWhy do we do this? Because if you're an aspirational person or someone who runs a business and is making money, it's incredibly challenging to figure out what to do. Information is impossible to find — and that's what we put together: the net worth reveal and why we do this podcast, Moneywise.He turned down $42M, lost a $70M deal to a war, and sold his company over WhatsApp instead.Ryan Levesque is the author of the #1 national bestseller Ask and the founder of the Ask Method Company, a seven-time Inc. 5000 business that did over $100M in revenue. He grew up blue collar, quit AIG in China the morning the Wall Street Journal said the company was going bankrupt, and built his first business selling Scrabble tile jewelry tutorials on Etsy. Then he tried to sell his company twice. The first buyer flipped a $42.5M deal to $17M at the eleventh hour. The second, a $70M offer, evaporated the week Russia invaded Ukraine. Today he sits on $30–35M in liquid net worth and runs a 150-acre farm in Vermont with his wife and two boys, where 80% of what his family eats comes off their own land.This is the longest Moneywise episode we've ever cut, and I barely interrupted. We go deep on the two failed exits, the life insurance rejection letter at age 30 that turned out to be organ failure, the photo of his sons that made him stop chasing the number, and what it actually costs to run a 150-acre farm (spoiler: free food runs about half a million a year). Ryan also breaks down the money curriculum he built for his kids, why $35M didn't feel like enough until he decided it was, and the honeybee epiphany that led to selling his company to his biggest competitor.Also, this podcast is made by Hampton, which is a community for founders doing on average $20 million a year in revenue. We saw a lot of these money conversations happening privately behind closed doors and we thought, "What the heck, let's make it public." If you are a founder, apply here: http://joinhampton.com/mwTimestamps:0:00 — "Mr. Levesque, you should be in a coma right now." Cold open and episode roadmap5:30 — The WSJ headline reads "AIG to file for bankruptcy." He resigns the same day with ~$100K in the bank9:56 — Reverse-engineering an Etsy seller's income and building a Scrabble tile jewelry tutorial business: "emulate before you innovate"12:32 — The crash of the Scrabble tile jewelry market. Lesson: pick evergreen markets14:29 — Dead orchids in Shanghai become a $500K/year business. Then 23 businesses at once17:19 — A nine-figure sale to NBC (Golf Pass) and a $168M sale to PayPal. His cut: "less than seven figures"19:00 — Ask becomes the #1 bestselling book in America and births a $100M+ company21:00 — The $42.5M deal gets flipped to $17M at the eleventh hour. "We basically gave them the middle finger"25:13 — Interviewing 12 investment banks, going back to market, and landing a $70M offer28:30 — Russia invades Ukraine. The deal, and the entire M&A market, evaporates33:23 — The life insurance rejection letter. Kidney failure. Ten days in ICU. Undiagnosed type 1 diabetic40:16 — "My kid can't grow up without a dad." Shutting down 23 businesses41:42 — Two photos of his boys, seven years apart. "It was like a heartbeat"43:00 — Texting his wife from a tent in Vermont. Full-price cash offer on the Austin house the same night49:13 — Reading Peter Lynch at age 10 and turning $5K into $100K+ by 1851:57 — What he looked for in land: top of watershed, no PFAS, good schools. 12 months of Airbnbs56:41 — 48 beehives, 1,000 maple taps, 500 fruit trees, seven freezers. 100% of their own protein58:40 — The farm numbers: just under $5M for the land, $2M mortgage at 6.5%, $220K/year before a single animal1:03:59 — $260K in year one, $175K/year after. "Free food costs a lot of money"1:06:28 — The kids' money curriculum: Rich Dad Poor Dad read-alouds, Greenlight accounts, a real estate syndication paying them $300–400/month1:11:20 — His net worth when he decided it was enough: $30–35M liquid1:12:47 — "I've never been less money motivated in my life." $1M webinars and the Mexican fisherman1:15:08 — Goldenrod, purple aster, and the WhatsApp voice memo to Daniel Priestley. Company sold three months later1:20:20 — Legacy, $120K/year in tuition, and how much to hand to your kids: "the brownies are not fully baked"1:25:39 — Seven weeks in Europe, giving back, and why all altruism is selfish1:31:36 — Daniel's takeaway: figure out what you're optimizing for and start living it nowSponsors: Daily Body Coach - achieve your dream body with https://moneywise.dailybodycoach.comSubscribe to Moneywise: https://www.youtube.com/@themoneywisepodcastFollow Daniel on X: https://x.com/danielcberkListen on Spotify / Apple Podcasts: [search "Moneywise Hampton"]
He accidentally went viral with 10 million views for a story about a missile falling off his jet — but Sean Walsh's real mission is teaching service members how to build wealth. A retired F-16 pilot and squadron commander turned author of Millionaire in the Military, Sean joins Spencer to bust the myth that you can't get rich while serving. Drawing on fighter-pilot mission planning ("target backwards from the goal"), he lays out how to escape the "doctrine of sacrifice," why he did his taxes in the future, how he built 14 Airbnb properties on active duty, and the exact three moves every new service member should make on day one. Equal parts tactics and mindset. Questions Asked: How did you go from posting flying videos to talking about money — what was the "bait and switch"? Was there a mistake you made that you internalized and now teach from? Did you start any side hustles or businesses while on active duty? If you had 5-10 minutes with a young service member, what are your top three to five pieces of advice? Are you doing the audiobook / reading it yourself? Main Topics Covered: The viral origin story ("Motor" — Magnum On The Only Runway) and using flying content to teach finance Why starting early beats starting big — the compound-interest chart ($100/mo from 20–30 then stopping beats starting later) "Put down the shovel" — getting out of credit card and student loan debt (both hosts started ~$50–60K in the hole) The pivotal milestones: getting to your first $10K, $100K, then accelerating to $500K and $1M The Vegas DINK lifestyle lesson — small, incremental overspending that forced a house sale "How I spend my money" plan vs. the word "budget," and "if you don't have a plan for every dollar, someone else does" The "Big Dumb Coffee Cups" chapter — making spending decisions consciously and ahead of time Automating savings and investing (TSP, allotments, high-yield savings) to beat decision fatigue The $2.5 billion in unmatched TSP money service members left on the table in 2024 — always get the 5% match Raising contributions 1% with every annual pay raise so you never feel it The "doctrine of sacrifice" trap — why it shouldn't extend to your finances, and why everyone can retire a millionaire Thinking in seasons: low-responsibility early years, deployments, CZTE, and super-maxing the TSP to the $72K limit with Roth conversions Lifestyle creep, disposable income, and the dorm-vs.-Camaro choice Real estate: Airbnb arbitrage, scaling to 14 properties, systematizing/automating, and why saturation ended the run Proactive "taxes in the future" planning, business write-offs, and real estate professional status Goal setting and mission/values work — the wallet note and vision board that came true, quarterly offsites, "money scripts" "Middle class mindset," examining money bias, and setting aspirational (even audacious) goals — Naval Ravikant's aspirational hourly rate Discipline as an under-quantified military benefit; educate yourself via the base library, Libby audiobooks Sean's top advice: (1) TSP to the 5% match, (2) educate yourself, (3) have a plan for your money — then a Roth IRA, then simple index funds (VOO/VTI) The VA loan advantage (average U.S. homeownership age is now 40) and filing VA disability claims despite "sacrifice" indoctrination Resources Mentioned: Millionaire in the Military: A Service Member's Guide to Securing Financial Freedom by Sean Walsh (Amazon, Barnes & Noble) Worthy Books — "buy a book for a service member" nonprofit campaign (link in show notes; tax-deductible) https://www.worthybooks.org/millionaire-in-the-military?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAcGRvZgJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA85MzY2MTk3NDMzOTI0NTkAAaeQGp0qOl0-hlmx4-v-U3rn3RMg4xoqtCO7GS7q3nhvduuPAbzHPGn72sKKfQ_aem_l5GYd7UXsOw-AJsPtjfV3Q @RealShawnnWalsh on social media Books referenced: Tony Robbins Money: Master the Game, Gary Keller The One Thing, Atomic Habits, Rich Dad Poor Dad, Ramit Sethi I Will Teach You to Be Rich / Money for Couples Libby app (free audiobooks for service members); tsp.gov; Jeremy Schneider / Personal Finance Club Spencer and Jamie offer one-on-one Military Money Mentor sessions. Get your personal military money and personal finance questions answered in a confidential coaching call. militarymoneymanual.com/mentor Over 24,000 military servicemembers and military spouses have graduated from the 100% free, Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course available at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3 In the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course, you can learn how to apply for the most premium credit cards and get special military protections, such as waived annual fees, on elite cards. Learn how active duty military, military spouses, and Guard and Reserves on 30+ day active orders can get your annual fees waived on premium credit cards in the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3 If you want to maximize your military paycheck, check out Spencer's 5 star rated book The Military Money Manual: A Practical Guide to Financial Freedom on Amazon or at shop.militarymoneymanual.com. If you have a question you would like us to answer on the podcast, please reach out on instagram.com/militarymoneymanual.
What if everything you've been taught about money is wrong? Today on the No Grey Areas Podcast, host Pat McCalla sits down with Sharon Lechter—bestselling author, entrepreneur, financial literacy expert, and co-author of the international bestseller “Rich Dad Poor Dad”. With more than 44 million books sold, Sharon has spent decades helping people build wealth, create financial freedom, and think differently about money.In this conversation, Sharon explains the difference between earning an income and building wealth, why so many people stay financially stuck, and how to start thinking like an investor instead of just an employee. Patrick and Sharon break down income-producing assets, the money lessons most of us were never taught, how to teach your children practical money habits early, investing, delayed gratification, the HENRY mindset, and why your paycheck alone won't make you wealthy.Whether you're an entrepreneur, business owner, parent, or simply looking to take control of your finances, this episode is full of practical wisdom and financial “one-liners” you can apply to achieving financial freedom. Connect with Sharon here: https://sharonlechter.com/CHAPTERS:0:00 Intro2:13 The ‘Why Not?' Mantra and Stepping Out of Comfort Zones4:45 Assets over Income: How to Gain Financial Freedom7:31 Taking Control of Your Paychecks and Making More Money16:24 How to Build Assets: The Importance of Delayed Gratification23:54 How to Go from Employee to Entrepreneur to Asset Owner to Financially Free28:43 The Power of Negative Thinking33:57 Faith, Choice, and the Power of Thought36:01 Recognizing Issues, Celebrating Wins, Avoiding Burnout43:58 What's the definition of true wealth?49:07 How to Turn Your Loss into Purpose51:50 OutroWEBSITE: https://www.nogreyareaspodcast.com/INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/nogreyareas_gagliano/FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/NoGreyAreasTIK TOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@nogreyareasgaglianoEMAIL: info@nogreyareas.comNo Grey Areas is a motivational podcast with captivating guests centered around how our choices humanize, empower, and define who we become. This podcast is inspired by the cautionary tale, No Grey Areas, written by Joseph Gagliano. Learn more about the truth behind his story involved with sports' biggest scandal at https://www.nogreyareas.com/
Keith welcomes back macroeconomist Richard Duncan of Macro Watch to examine where mortgage rates are headed and what's driving them there. Duncan explains how the U.S. shifted from capitalism to what he calls "creditism" after the dollar left gold in 1971, and why today's AI investment boom, rising defense spending, and a $40 trillion national debt are all pointing inflation and interest rates in the same direction. He also makes the case for rental property on land as a long-term inflation hedge, and answers a question many have asked: if the government can print currency, why does it collect taxes? Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/623 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text FAMILY to 66866 Join Mid South Home Buyers' one-time, free live webinar featuring Keith Weinhold on September 30 at GetRichEducation.com/MidSouth to learn how Memphis' economic expansion could create new real estate investment opportunities, and have your questions answered in real time. Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review" For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold 0:01 Welcome to GRE. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. You're going to get a good idea of where future mortgage rates are headed as we're talking to one of the world's most brilliant macroeconomists today. Will AI be more inflationary or deflationary? And the profundity of how we're on the brink of moving into a completely new economic system today on Get Rich Education. What if I told you that one of America's strongest cash flow real estate markets is also becoming the new brains and brawn behind AI? That city is Memphis, believe it or not. In September 30th, we're going to show you why the smart money is paying attention now, along with an investing opportunity you won't want to miss. Join me, Terry Kerr and Matthew Van Horn of Mid South Home Buyers, the largest turnkey company in Memphis with more than 6000 homes under management, for a free live webinar the likes of which I've never done before. We're going to look at what billions in new investment could mean for jobs, housing demand, neighborhood appreciation, and your portfolio. Everyone who attends live will also get exclusive access to the best deal terms Mid South has ever offered. Reserve your free seat at getricheducation.com/midsouth again. that september 30. Don't say we didn't tell you. Save your spot at getricheducation.com/midsouth. Speaker 1 1:34 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education. Keith Weinhold 1:50 Welcome to GRE from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, to Lancaster, California, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. You're listening to Get Rich Education, and I really appreciate that you're here. Yes, those two cities, though spelled the same, are pronounced differently. Framing this entire episode today with our brilliant guest, you'll learn which direction future mortgage rates are probably going to move, and it's decidedly either going to be higher or lower. You'll get a clear answer. Now I've said that trying to predict mortgage rates definitively is foolish. We're only talking about probabilities today. Look, have you ever wondered if the government can just print its own currency? Then why do they have to collect taxes from us. We're going to get that answer today. Back in 1971, the U.S. economy left a system of capitalism, in fact, and embarked on a journey of creditism as defined by today's guest. Well, now we're about to leave creditism. You'll learn what is poised to replace it, and it is an AI-fueled answer. You know, to prep you with some context today, I've said it here before. But when you start talking about the enormity of a national economy, the words billion and trillion start to get thrown around a lot. A trillion seconds ago, you know how long ago that was. That takes you further back than the Roman Empire, because a trillion seconds is 31,700 years. Well, 31,700 years ago, that is just about as far back as when the plains of Europe were being roamed by Neanderthals. Yeah, that was a trillion seconds ago. Coming up on the show here, the man who wrote the book on the Pareto principle 30 years ago. That's the 80-20 principle, where 20% of your effort yields 80% of the results. We'll talk to him and learn how those insights can improve your life on a different upcoming episode. Keith Weinhold 4:08 Here, the book Rich Dad Poor Dad was originally written by two authors. One of those two was Robert Kiyosaki. We had Kiyosaki on the show here with us in June, and by the way, the New York Post recently wrote an article, and they cited the Get Rich Education podcast in how Kiyosaki revealed on the show here that he is 1.2 billion dollars in debt. You can find that in the September 1st edition of the New York Post. That's the June 1st episode of the Get Rich Education podcast that they're citing. Well, a lot of people they don't know who the other author of Rich Dad Poor Dad is, but we're going to have her here with us on the show soon. So some really fascinating episodes coming up. Let's meet today's guest. Returning this week is one of the foremost macroeconomic minds in the world. He was this show's first ever guest nearly 12 years ago on episode seven. A prolific author, he publishes the popular video series Macro Watch at RichardDuncaneconomics.com, and he's really influential. For example, not long ago, he presented his economic policy proposals to congressional members of the House Ways and Means Committee. Hey, it's a warm Get Rich Education. Welcome back to the incomparable Richard Duncan. Richard Duncan 5:39 Thank you, Keith. Thank you for having me back on. Keith Weinhold 5:42 I don't know if you and the audience are ready for this. This is some perspective. It recently made news when the U.S. hit its national public debt milestone of $40 trillion. When Richard made his GRE debut here in November of 2014, it was $18 trillion. That national debt has more than doubled since you were first here, Richard. Richard Duncan 6:07 That's right. The government has been playing probably the leading role in keeping the economy growing, and a couple of times since then has played the sole role in preventing a new Great Depression in the aftermath of the crisis of 2008 and during COVID, it's the massive government budget deficits, often more than a trillion dollars a year. Last couple of years, it's been 1.8 trillion dollars. That's been driving the economy, and whenever it needs some additional support, the Fed steps in and creates a few trillion dollars here and there, and combined they've been keeping the economy growing and, in fact, booming. And wealth has absolutely exploded as a result of the government spending and the Fed money creation. In 2008, the total wealth of all the Americans net worth $60 trillion. Now, it's tripled to $180 trillion. That that is a direct result of the government's intervention through budget deficits and paper money creation by the Fed. Keith Weinhold 7:14 I will call that the world's least desirable investment portfolio minus 40 t. That is one way to think about it, but when you bring up interventionism, you know something I shared with the audience about a month ago, Richard. It is just remarkable to think about all the crises we've had just since 2020. We had COVID, we had Russia's invasion of Ukraine, we had Israel, Gaza. We had tariffs. Now we've got the war in Iran, and what is the result of all this? Largely due to government interventionism. Oh, both the stock market and real estate market in the U.S. are near all-time highs. Richard Duncan 7:54 Who would have imagined? But things work very differently now than they did in the old days when money was backed by gold, and the Fed and the government played a much smaller role in the economy. It's a different world now. That was capitalism. This is creditism. Our new economic system is driven by credit growth, and whenever necessary, the government steps in with massive budget deficits, and the Fed steps in with massive money creation to make sure that credit keeps expanding and the economy keeps growing, because if credit doesn't keep expanding, if it even dips a little bit like it started to in 2009, then the whole bubble implodes and we repeat the 1930s Great Depression, probably followed by what happened in the 1940s. Keith Weinhold 8:39 This is interesting. When you were first here 12 years ago. You talked about how society isn't so much capitalism that it's creditism, and you expounded on that. And before we're done, I know that we have now morphed into a new ism, post-creditism that Richard is going to share with us, it's fascinating. But Richard, since you were last here, the Iran War is new. It's been going on for over six months now. So I'd like to get your thoughts on that, and principally, if the Iran War is going to create lasting inflation or only a temporary energy spike. What are your thoughts? Richard Duncan 9:20 Let's broaden this out. I know that your listeners are very interested in in real estate, and of course that's very impacted by interest rates. And interest rates are impacted, of course, primarily by inflation. So it is true that the Iran war is pushing up energy prices, and that's pushing up inflation. It's not just Iran alone. Before that, we had trade tariffs, and that's pushing up inflation. And on top of that, we've simultaneously got this extraordinary AI investment boom, and the investment by the hyperscalers is just mind-boggling. The four biggest hyperscalers-Amazon, Alphabet, Microsoft, and Meta-they're expected just the four of them to invest something close to $750 billion this year. 750 billion, just four of them. Now, to put that into perspective, the U.S. military, in one year, the most recent year, only spends half that much on procurement and research and development, roughly 320 billion. You've got these four hyperscalers spending twice as much as the U.S. military does on procurement and research and development. That is just hard to wrap your mind around, and of course, that's pushing up everything from the cost of memory chips to electrical equipment, the cost of electricity itself, power generation equipment, and all the kinds of materials that go into building data centers. So that's another source of inflation. And then there is this wealth effect that I just referred to a minute ago. Wealth has tripled from $60 trillion to $180 trillion since 2008. All that wealth is giving a lot of rich people a lot of money to spend on a very large scale, and that also is inflationary. So all of those things are inflationary, and none of them seem to be going away in the immediate future. Now, on top of that, the inflation is not the only thing that is affecting the interest rates. Other things are affecting the interest rates as well. For instance, the budget deficit this year looks like the U.S. budget deficit is going to be quite close to $2 trillion. So that will be $2 trillion of government borrowing, and this doesn't look like it's going to go down anytime soon either. President Trump is requesting $1.5 trillion for the total defense budget in fiscal year 2027, which starts in October. That's up from just $900 billion in fiscal year 2025, so that's a huge increase in military spending, which makes the percent- Keith Weinhold 9:20 Increase plus, y Richard Duncan 10:52 Going to keep growing, and that spending will be inflationary as well. But so the government is going to have to borrow, so the demand for money from the government is enormous, and as I've just mentioned, because of the AI boon, the hyperscalers and many of the other companies in the AI industry or related to the AI industry, they're also tapping the bond market on a very large scale. So demand for borrowing from these AI-related companies, the demand is pushing up interest rates. This is not directly related to inflation, so you've got a lot of demand for borrowing from the government and from the private sector related to artificial intelligence primarily. So that's on the demand side for money, and on the supply side, well, the United States is not making a lot of new friends these days. We seem to be losing friends pretty quickly, and many of the people who were very enthusiastic about buying American government bonds in the past are becoming increasingly reluctant to do so. Most of them still are. Most of them don't really have any viable options, but on the margin, there are fewer friendly buyers of our debt, and so fewer people willing to buy the debt also puts upward pressure on U.S. interest rates. So recently, the 30-year U.S. government bond hit a 19-year high at 5.33% That's a very high number, and this has spooked the Treasury Department. Treasury Secretary Besant has begun doing some very unusual things that suggest that he's very concerned. He has helped stop the yen from weakening by selling some euros that the U.S. government owned and buying yen. He did this to make the yen stronger, and this meant that Japan wouldn't have to sell its U.S. government bonds in order to have dollars to use to buy yen to make the yen stronger. So that was a strange move. Richard Duncan 9:20 And then more recently, he's announced that the Treasury Department is going to start buying twice as many long-dated bonds as it has been doing. Each operation now, the Treasury Department has been buying $2 billion worth of bonds at the long end and financing it with short-term borrowing. So borrowing at the short end, the say two-year bonds, which have a much lower interest rate, and using that money to buy 10 or 30-year bonds that have a higher interest rate, in order to push up the bond prices and push down the bond yields at the long end, to try to hold down the 30-year bond yield and the 10-year bond yield, which of course directly affects the mortgage. This is beginning to seem like there's some degree of, well, let's call it perhaps not panic, but deep concern in the Treasury about how high interest rates in the U.S. are going, and just moving forward with this idea, all of these pressures, the inflationary pressures are not likely to go away anytime soon. The demand for borrowing is not going to go away anytime soon. So there's going to continue to be this upward pressure on interest rates. And I think ultimately, what we are going to see is another big round of quantitative easing from the Fed. The Fed is going to have to step back in and announce that it's going to create a great deal of money one more time, and use that money that it creates to buy government bonds to push up their price and to drive down their yield. And we shouldn't forget that already the Fed is currently printing, creating money. It launched a new program. What is it called? Reserve management purchases. This was a program they announced in December last year, where they were just going to create some money and inject bank reserves into the financial system, so that they could manage reserves at a good level, so everyone would have plenty of liquidity. Just since December, they have created $210 billion. This is kind of going under the radar, but $210 billion since December is not an insignificant amount of money. Richard Duncan 14:49 If the budget deficit this year turns out to be 2 trillion, then that's financing 10% of the government's budget deficit, right? More than 10% So we've already got a significant amount of money creation by the Fed going on currently, and that's not enough to prevent the yields from moving sharply higher. So I think what we're going to get is another much bigger round of quantitative easing in the not too distant future, and that's going to have a lot of ramifications. Keith Weinhold 17:00 That's a really interesting insight, and Richard, one word keeps popping into my head as we have this discussion. Okay, inflationary pressure correlates with higher interest rates, sure, but how much are these high bond yields, which flow right over to our mortgage rates, a result of an erosion in trust. I'm thinking about trust Richard Duncan 17:24 to some degree, yes, but not overwhelmingly. The reality is, at the end of the day, there is a certain amount of money in the world that has to be invested somewhere, and that is the most important fact to understand. There is a pool of money; it keeps getting larger, and it has to go somewhere. And U.S. government bonds are considered the safest place for it to go. For instance, the United States has a very large trade deficit with the rest of the world. For the last two years, the current account deficit, which is more or less the trade deficit, has been 1.2 trillion dollars a year. It's easier to understand it as a trade deficit. That's been throwing off 1.2 trillion dollars into the surplus countries. The surplus countries sell things in the United States, countries like China and Vietnam and all the others. They sell things in the United States that they make at home. They get paid in dollars. They take their dollars back home to China and Vietnam and all the other countries, and what do they do with the dollars? They own dollars. They've got to do something with those dollars. They're getting 1.2 trillion more dollars every year. Now, the thing they do with it primarily is they buy treasury bonds with it, and so there is an inherent and growing demand for treasury bonds. You may be thinking, okay, they could take those dollars and they could convert them into euros. That's true, they could, but whoever they buy the euros from, they then own dollars, and they would need to buy U.S. dollar-denominated assets with them. The main driver behind the buying of Treasury bonds is just the fact that there are so many dollars in the world, an increasing amount of dollars outside the United States that need to be invested in U.S. dollar-denominated assets. People can lose confidence in "quote unquote, but what are they going to do with their dollars? It has to go somewhere, and so it ultimately ends up going round and round, and an enormous amount of it ends up in U.S. Treasury bonds, and that's not going to change so long as the U.S. has a very large trade deficit with the rest of the world. The rest of the world is going to keep accumulating dollars for that reason, and they're going to keep accumulating Treasury bonds for that reason. Keith Weinhold 19:44 Well, what do these effects mean for real estate, Richard? I mean, which force you think will ultimately win for housing here with this increased inflationary pressure? Is it more of a damaged affordability problem, or do we see rising? Placement costs that continue to help float real estate values up. Richard Duncan 20:05 Real estate prices, home prices, have not been performing very well over the last year to two. Pretty flat, unlike in prior years, immediately after COVID when they were booming. I suppose that's what we're going to continue to see for some time. If interest rates remain high, the affordability is not there. But if we do get this new round of quantitative easing, which I think is a real possibility, then that will effectively push down the interest rates, making home affordability better. And at the same time, by creating more money, that does push up asset prices across the board. So over the long run, I do believe that real estate is a very good investment, and also it can be a very good investment from the point of view of providing diversity in your portfolio. I'd like to focus in particular on it can be an inflation hedge. So, if you buy a house and use a say a 30-year fixed mortgage, and then we or a 15-year fixed mortgage to pay for a significant part of that purchase, and then we do get inflation, then the inflation eats away your mortgage. Your mortgage evaporates because of the inflation, so in that way you're somewhat protected from the risk of future inflation by having inflation destroys your debt. In other words, so that helps. So I do believe that buying houses, I think rental income is a very good investment, particularly houses on a piece of land buy the house with a fixed rate mortgage. You rent out the house, and over 10 to 15 years, the house pays for itself, and it keeps appreciating in value over time. Decade after decade, it will become increasingly valuable over the long run, and you'll have also a supply cash flow, and you'll have this inflation hedge that I just described. So I think owning rental property that is on land, I'm not so keen on buying condos. There's no limit as to how many condos can be built in the air, but there is a limited amount of land in the world, and so land is as good as gold because if gold goes up; the land will also go up for the same reasons. So I think owning rental property is a very important part of having a broadly diversified portfolio, which is usually the best thing for most people to do to have a broadly diversified investment portfolio. Keith Weinhold 22:37 Yeah, in this era of both war and increased interventionism, yeah, we still have a resource here, real estate that is scarce, that is necessary, and is built with this basket of goods and commodities constituting that replacement cost. Richard Duncan 22:53 I agree. Keith Weinhold 22:55 Well, Richard and I have a lot more to talk about when we come back, including what phase of the economy that we're in post-creditism and a lot more. You're listening to Get Rich Education. Our guest is the publisher of Macro Watch, Richard Duncan. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Keith Weinhold 23:12 What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine? You sure can at Ridge Lending Group NMLS 42056. 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That's basically the entire rest of the G7 just to try to get your head wrapped around that $40 trillion number, and you know, Richard, when it comes to the government, their income and their expenses and their assets in their debt, some wonder, including me, if the government can just print its own currency, then why must they collect taxes from us? Richard Duncan 26:04 Okay, well, to understand the answer to that question, it's necessary to understand that it wasn't always possible for the government to print its own currency. Up until 1968, 1971, the Fed was legally required to back the dollars it created with gold, and the United States had the obligation to allow other countries to convert the dollars they accumulated into U.S. gold. So up until then, that wasn't a possibility for the government to finance its spending by money printing. And so, over the centuries that preceded, the government would tax the people to obtain the money that it needs for spending. So imagine today: here we are. The government now is spending about $7 trillion a year, and its tax revenues are about $5 trillion a year. So if it suddenly said, "Okay, we're not going to tax anyone anymore, that would mean that people would have an extra $5 trillion to spend, and if the people started spending $5 trillion, we would have hyperinflation, because there's only a limited amount of industrial capacity in the United States, or even in the world for that matter. It couldn't absorb a $5 trillion of additional spending from households and businesses, so it's not that they can't technically create the money as much money as they want to pay for everything they want. The constraint is not money creation technically; it's the inflation that it would produce if they just stopped taxing everyone and just created money instead. So that's the reason they can't. Keith Weinhold 27:46 Just slowly taper it away and give people some income tax relief. Why can't they do that? Richard Duncan 27:52 Well, that's what they've been doing. Taxes are far lower now than they were under when President Reagan took office, and that's one of the reasons we have $40 trillion in debt. Keith Weinhold 28:03 Okay, but that is how the income and expenses look on an annual basis, right, Richard? This is how I think of it. Like the United States basically has 5 trillion in annual income, much of it from personal tax collection, and 7 trillion in annual expenses. That's how we get to the annual deficit of about 2 trillion, which rolls into that $40 trillion of overall debt. Richard Duncan 28:30 That's right. What you said is correct. But we would have much more than $5 trillion income from taxes had the government not reduced the tax rate so often and so radically, starting in the early 1980s under President Reagan, if taxes hadn't been cut so sharply, we wouldn't have a two-trillion-dollar budget deficit, $40 trillion of government debt. So they've already been tapering the amount that they tax by cutting tax rates very sharply over the last decades, Keith Weinhold 29:02 I guess a lot of people, admittedly me included, haven't been thinking about it that way. Maybe because it's painful, and I do write checks to the IRS. But when we talk about this propensity for continued inflation, one component of this is what's happening with the AI arms race, and I know you've looked at this closely. You know, because one thing I think about is, well, wait, will the AI arms race actually be deflationary over time because it lowers production costs and makes us more efficient, or is it going to be inflationary because it requires enormous capital and electricity and infrastructure in the building of these data centers. So you know I can see it going either way with the AI arms race, inflationary or deflationary. But since you studied it a lot, including talking about it on macrowatch, tell us more about the AI arms race and what this all means, Richard. Richard Duncan 29:59 So yes. On your point that you just made, in the short term, it looks like the AI boom is going to be inflationary. Yeah, it's driving up electricity prices, land prices, and all of the things that we discussed before. Everything that goes into making artificial intelligence intelligence, including memory chips, which drive up the cost of your iPhone and iPad. So it's inflationary in the short run, but over the long run, it could probably and probably will be quite disinflationary or even deflationary. I think that's several years away. Now, moving on to the next question, the AI arms race. I think it's very helpful to understand the world around us by putting it in the context of how our economic system has evolved since dollars ceased to be backed by gold. 1968, the Fed was no longer required to back dollars with gold. 1971, President Nixon said, "Sorry, Europe, we we said we would let you convert your dollars into gold, but we changed our mind and you can't. So after that, there was no longer any gold backing for the dollar, and here are a list of things that have happened as a result of that change. Our huge trade deficits couldn't have happened if the dollars were backed by gold. The huge budget deficits that we have couldn't have happened. The Fed couldn't have created trillions of dollars through quantitative easing. Inflation rate has fallen from the 1980s, from the the mid teens to well below the Fed's 2% inflation target for most of the last 20 years, and wealth in the United States has exploded, as I mentioned, from 60 trillion to 180 trillion. That wouldn't have happened if dollars had remained backed by gold because credit has exploded. Total debt or total credit, two sides of the same coin. Total debt in the U.S. It's government debt, household debt, corporate debt, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac debt, all the debt. It first went through $1 trillion in 1960. Now it's 110 trillion. So 110 times increase in my lifetime in total debt. That wouldn't have happened if dollars had remained backed by gold, and because of all of that credit expansion and the massive trade deficits we had with the rest of the world through globalization occurred, and that allowed Asia to industrialize, and Asia wouldn't be industrialized as it is now. China wouldn't be an economic superpower as it is now had dollars remained backed by gold, because it wouldn't have been able to grow through export-led growth. And so, China, instead of looking like it does today, it would look like it did in 1970, basically being a very poor third world country, and globalization has pulled hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. Richard Duncan 32:47 They would still be in poverty had dollars remained backed by gold. The Soviet Union probably would still be around because the U.S. under President Reagan wouldn't have been able to to spend so much on the military that it bankrupted the Soviet Union trying to keep up with us, and finally, China wouldn't be the national security threat that it's become now because it wouldn't have had a trade surplus and it wouldn't have had any economic growth to speak of for the last 50 years. That's the world that we're living in now. The world we live in now is the direct result of dollars no longer being backed by gold, and to understand the world around us, you have to understand that that's the starting point. Now, coming to your question, this explosion of wealth that has been created under the system that I call creditism-we did have capitalism. It was driven by saving and investment, Capital accumulation, hence capitalism and investment that drove capitalism. That's not how our system works. Our system is driven by credit creation and consumption, and more credit creation and more consumption. That's creditism. It used to be driven by private sector credit growth, but the private sector became too heavily indebted in 2008, and they blew up, and that almost resulted in the complete collapse and bankruptcy of every bank in the United States and probably most of the banks around the world as well. So the government had to step in, and since that time, it's been government borrowing primarily. Richard Duncan 34:17 This driven creditism and kept credit expanding with the help of the Fed, so this has been the evolution of creditism and has produced extraordinary amounts of wealth. So it's had two consequences that we need to focus in on now. For one, I've mentioned already, it turned China into an economic superpower, which is now on the verge of overtaking us, not just economically, but also technologically and militarily, it's become an extreme national security threat to the United States. But the second thing that has occurred, the creation of all of this wealth has provided the funds that have allowed a. Technological revolution to occur so quickly, this AI revolution that we're now living through, that is the direct result of the ample liquidity that has been created and flowing around the world, originating largely from the Fed's printing press and the government's budget deficits. That's created trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars of wealth that wouldn't have existed otherwise, and that wealth has gone into funding this development of data centers and the technology that's created the artificial intelligence. Now we are experiencing this AI revolution, and it's become quite apparent to everyone that whoever wins the AI arms race is going to rule the world. We're on the verge of machines becoming more intelligent than humans, and then after that point, through self-training and self-improvement, going on 24 hours a day, they're going to become exponentially more intelligent than humans very quickly, so whoever wins this race is going to have dominance of every other country in the world. So, as creditism has evolved, it has created a national security threat in China and has created artificial intelligence. And as a result of the two combined, we now have this artificial intelligence arms race with the United States that must win. That's why President Trump is calling for a 1.5 trillion dollar defense budget. Richard Duncan 36:30 So this is one of the main themes that MacroWatch has been focused on this year. I've done a series of videos on the new defense spending boom, looking in one video at the traditional titans of defense like Lockheed Martin, RTX, Boeing, in another video looking at the new up-and-coming Silicon Valley challengers in the defense industry, companies like Andrel, Palantir, and most important of all, SpaceX. This is now the driving force in the economy. the The absolute necessity of winning this AI arms race is going to require much greater government spending on the military, and it's going to require what we're seeing extraordinary amounts of money being invested in developing artificial intelligence because whoever gets there first wins, and whoever doesn't is going to be subjugated by the winner. So that's where we are. So that brings us up to we've been discussing the change from capitalism into creditism, and we've seen how creditism has evolved from being first driven by private sector credit to later being driven by government sector borrowing and spending, now leading to this AI arms race, which I think we're now moving toward a different kind of economic system beyond creditism. So let me back up just a minute and say that economic systems are best defined by the constraints that limit what they can do. So we've been talking about capitalism. Capitalism's main constraint was the requirement that money be backed by gold, and when that constraint, when that gold-backed money constraint was removed, the constraint was gone. The economic system evolved into a different kind of economic system. Creditism has created extraordinary amounts of wealth and growth since early 1970s. This is not the first time economic systems have evolved. If you look back through history, there have been many different kinds of economic systems. They've all been defined by the constraints that binded what they could do. If you go back to hunter-gatherer economic system, that economic system was constrained because the people didn't have tools for cultivation or any way to store the food that they created for long-term storage, but once they developed that those tools and the ability to store food, those constraints were removed and they evolved into a different kind of economic system. Ultimately, into feudalism. Feudalism was an economic system that was constrained by very poor roads, so there was very little transportation. There were no banks, so no banking system or credit, and there was very limited legal social mobility. Richard Duncan 39:28 But eventually, cities developed, and because of cities, trade flourished, and that removed the constraints that had defined feudalism. Okay, so fast forward, capitalism was constrained by gold-backed money. When gold was removed, we moved into creditism. Now here we are in creditism, late-stage creditism, and we're seeing this phenomenal expansion of artificial intelligence. So every economic system throughout history has. Had two constraints in common. There have been labor constraints, a limited labor supply, and there has been the constraint of limited human intelligence. We're now, thanks to artificial intelligence, on the verge of removing those two constraints that have limited every economic system up until today, when artificial intelligence is embedded in humanoid robots, that's going to remove the labor constraint. We will no longer have any labor constraint. Robots will be able to produce all the labor and then some that's required. So there goes the labor constraint, and when we hit superintelligence, that's going to remove the constraint of human intelligence that has bound economic systems. So those have been the two primary binding constraints on every economic system so far, and they're just now about to be removed by artificial intelligence. We're moving into a new era without intelligence constraints and without labor constraints, and this is going to radically change everything. When those constraints are removed, creditism is going to evolve into an economic system that's no longer driven by credit creation. It's going to be driven by intelligence creation, knowledge creation, or an explosion of cognition. So I call the new system that we're moving toward cognitism, because rather than being driven by credit as creditism is, it's going to be driven by exponential expansion of intelligence or cognition, and it's probably going to create undreamt of wealth, but it's going to completely change from bottom to top everything about the world and society and social relations that exist today, and that is what we're very quickly moving into over the next 10 to 20 years. That that's where we're going to go, and I believe it deserves a new name. So I've coined the term cognitism to describe this new economic system. The post-creditism world is cognitivism. Keith Weinhold 42:12 Wow, this is massive. Ever since we met, you talked about creditism, and really, that's the economic system that we live in, not capitalism, so we're on the brink again of moving from creditism into cognitivism, because oftentimes these forces and their change are defined by having the constraints removed, and we're on the brink of removing the labor constraint and the human intelligence restraint from creditism to move us into cognitivism over the next 10 or 20 years. I'm just reviewing what you said as I'm thinking this through, Richard. Talk to us at least a little about what the ramifications are for us, just everyday people and investors with this cognitimism economic system. Richard Duncan 43:02 It's very difficult to guess what the consequences are going to be. They're going to be not only economic, but they're going to very quickly become political, and the political consequences are difficult to guess how they will play out. But it does look like when robots can do all the manual labor, and machines can do all of the intellectual work on a much more accurately, much more rapidly, much more flawlessly than humans can. There won't be any need for humans to have work unless legislation is in place to ensure that they do, and if they don't have work, then they're going to not have any income. And if they don't have any income, they're going to start being very unhappy, and they're going to start rioting, and governments are going to begin to fall, and we don't know how that's going to play out. So there's going to have to be arrangements made to ensure that people do have enough income to benefit from all of the extraordinary wealth that could be created through limitless labor and limitless intelligence, but to work in a way that can satisfy our wildest dreams and beyond our wildest dreams is going to be a matter of restructuring the political economy, if you will, to ensure that people benefit from this technological revolution that is now speeding up. Keith Weinhold 44:30 Yeah, I would say all we do know is we don't know and how it's going to turn out. But you know whether it's been tractors replacing horses or whether it's been the advent of the assembly line, or whether it's been the advent of the internet, people always say it's going to destroy net jobs, and historically, it really hasn't. Richard Duncan 44:53 You're right, but the replacement of horses with automobiles didn't really work out so well for the horses. Keith Weinhold 45:00 So, is there any way we can think about this in order to stay nimble as investors and everyday people, Richard? As we move into cognitism. Richard Duncan 45:10 Absolutely, everyone needs to subscribe to Macro Watch, and they'll be able to follow it very closely there as I map it out as it unfolds from month to month. Keith Weinhold 45:22 They should, and it's fascinating, and you've really been on the cutting edge of that. Tell us more about subscribing to Macro Watch, something that a lot of listeners should be interested in. Richard Duncan 45:33 So my background is has been in finance. I started working in Hong Kong in 1986 as a securities analyst, I later on became an economist and then a strategist. I worked for the World Bank for a couple of years in Washington. I was the head of global investment strategy in London for ABN AMRO Asset Management. So my background is in finance, and I have spent most of my career living in Asia for the last 40 years, primarily in Asia. Along the way, I've written four books. The first one was the Dollar Crisis back in 2003. The most recent one was The Money Revolution in 2023. So my background is in finance. But 13 years ago, I launched Macro Watch. Macro Watch is a video newsletter. Every couple of weeks, I upload a new video. It's essentially me making a PowerPoint presentation discussing something important happening in the global economy and how that's likely to impact asset prices. So it's essentially become a compendium of the global economy. Essentially, everything that has happened in the last 13 years at the macro level that matters is discussed in these macro watch videos. For instance, there is a complete history of everything the Federal Reserve has done since it was founded in 1913. There is a complete description of government debt from the beginning, the increase in government debt and budget deficits. It explains things like how the Fed actually creates money, what are bank reserves, what is Japanese monetary policy, what is European monetary policy. All the major macroeconomic developments are described there and are available to subscribers every two weeks. They upload a new video, and so if your listeners would like to check it out, my website is richarddunkeneconomics.com. That's richarduneconomics.com, and if they'd like to subscribe, hit the subscribe button. And I'd like to offer everyone a 50% subscription discount. Keith Weinhold 47:36 Thank you. Richard Duncan 47:36 They'll be prompted to put in a discount coupon code if they use the discount code GRE, like Get Rich Education, they can subscribe at a 50% discount. They'll find it very affordable, and at the very least, they can sign up for my free blog while they're there, and they can follow my work that way. Keith Weinhold 47:57 It is fascinating the AI arms race poised to have us completely change economic systems from criticism to cognitism. Richard, is there any last thing that you would like to leave us with? Whether it has something else to do with AI, maybe I didn't think about asking you, or something with the Iran war and the inflation, or anything else in the economy. Any last thought for what we should do or be aware of? Richard Duncan 48:24 One thing, of course, I think is very important is for everyone to learn to use AI as much as they possibly can. It's easy to use, and it will teach you how to use it. And as we evolve into this new world is going to be crucial to make use of this most important tool humanity has ever had-the ability to use AI. This suddenly gives you access to all the world's knowledge. All you have to do is ask, and it will tell you in a very friendly way. So, by being able to use AI, you'll be in a much better position to survive the transition and prosper in the decade ahead. Keith Weinhold 49:09 That is an actionable way to stay on top of it, Richard. It's been valuable as always. Thanks so much for coming back onto the show. Richard Duncan 49:16 Thank you, Keith. I've enjoyed it. Keith Weinhold 49:24 Yeah, keen insights from Richard as always. Yeah, the U.S. sure has been making enemies the past couple years. That could make other nations less likely to buy our debt, and then in turn, it takes higher interest rates in order to attract bond buyers. Well, that in turn increases mortgage rates. But to some extent, other nations have to buy our debt. Richard says that a bigger round of future QE is a distinct possibility. That is code for money printing. That's clearly. Inflationary, but few seem to know we've already been involved in liquidity operations since last December. Whether that's called QE or something else, it is taking more government spending to keep up with the AI race. That's inflationary too. What about that? When horses were replaced with cars. How did it work out for the horse? I don't know if that made it better or worse for the horse. Maybe horses were out of work, but then they got to live free. Will AI make that very predicament apply to humans? Nobody knows. The economic system will have moved from creditism to cognitism when the economy is no longer driven by credit creation but intelligence creation, from RichardDuncanEconomics.com, you can hit the subscribe to MacroWatch button and enter the discount code GRE for a 50% discount. Just about everything that you heard today is poised to drive mortgage rates higher, not lower. Big thanks to Macro Watch Mastermind Richard Duncan today. 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David Richter, author of Profit First for Real Estate Investing, delivers a back-to-basics whiteboard walkthrough of the entire Profit First system in this solo episode. If you've heard the term thrown around but never understood the actual mechanics, this is the overview that makes it click.David breaks down why Profit First is just the pay-yourself-first principle from Rich Dad Poor Dad and The Richest Man in Babylon with a real system behind it, and then draws out that system account by account. He covers the income account, the "golden trio" of profit, owner's comp, and tax, and the operating expense account most owners live in. Best of all, he shows why it's nearly impossible to mess up if you keep it simple. If numbers make your eyes glaze over, start here.Timeline Summary[0:26] – David introduces himself and frames the episode as a full overview of Profit First[0:46] – What Profit First actually is: a cash flow system for putting money in your pocket[1:04] – Why it's an offshoot of pay-yourself-first ideas from Kiyosaki, Babylon, and Covey[1:42] – Reassurance for the investor who's "allergic to spreadsheets"[2:02] – The only two ways Profit First fails: never setting it up or making it too complicated[2:22] – How the system is the envelope method applied to business bank accounts[2:56] – Why most owners put profit last and how to protect it instead[3:37] – Giving every dollar a name so you're intentional instead of throwing money around[3:52] – Building the system: starting with the income account where all deposits land[4:15] – The three accounts under income: profit, owner's comp, and tax[5:05] – The operating expense account and why it's the one big account most people start with[5:45] – Why the profit account fuels the reason you started your business[6:05] – Taking profit quarterly, and using it first to knock out debt[6:33] – Why owner's comp is his favorite account and how it pays you consistently[7:15] – The tax account as the peace-of-mind account that kills tax-time stress[7:35] – Why it's called Profit First and the "golden trio" Harry Potter analogy[8:27] – If it feels like too much, start with just the owner's comp account5 Key TakeawaysProfit First Is Pay Yourself First With A System — The principle isn't new; it's straight out of Rich Dad Poor Dad and The Richest Man in Babylon. What Profit First adds is the actual how, a bank account structure that makes it real.It Only Fails Two Ways — Profit First doesn't break on its own. It only fails if you never set it up, or you make it so complicated you quit. Keep it simple and use it consistently.Give Every Dollar A Name — The system is the envelope method applied to business checking accounts. Naming your accounts makes you intentional instead of throwing money at marketing, hires, and expenses on a hunch.The Golden Trio Protects Your Money — Income flows in, then you transfer to profit, owner's comp, and tax first, before operating expenses. Profit fuels your purpose, owner's comp pays you, and tax is your peace-of-mind account.When In Doubt, Start With Owner's Comp — If the full system feels overwhelming, open one account and pay yourself from it consistently. Most owners don't pay themselves enough, and building that habit is where it all starts.Links & ResourcesSimple CFO — https://simplecfo.comProfit First for Real Estate Investing by David Richter — https://profitfirstrei.comRich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki — https://www.richdad.comThe Richest Man in Babylon by George S. Clason — https://www.penguinrandomhouse.comThe 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey — https://www.franklincovey.comThe Total Money Makeover by Dave Ramsey — https://www.ramseysolutions.comEnjoyed This Episode?If David's whiteboard finally made the Profit First system click for you, the next step is opening that first account today. Share this episode with an investor who puts their profit last, and follow the show and leave a rating and review so more real estate investors can learn to keep more of what they make.
In this episode of Encourage Mindset, Ethan Van De Hey sits down with Sal Sciorta, owner of Plumbing Pros, to talk about the mindset, discipline, sacrifice, and standards that helped him build his business from the ground up.Sal Sciorta shares what it was like starting Plumbing Pros while still working a full-time union plumbing job in New York City. Rather than immediately jumping into entrepreneurship, he worked two jobs, saved money, avoided unnecessary debt, and waited until his business had proven that it could support him. His story is a powerful reminder that building something great often requires sacrificing comfort today for the freedom you want tomorrow.A major theme throughout the conversation is discipline. Sal credits much of his mindset to his father, football, and experiences that taught him the value of hard work, responsibility, and doing what needs to be done even when you don't feel like doing it. His approach to business is heavily influenced by the athlete's mindset: prepare, perform under pressure, know your strengths, trust your team, and keep getting better. Sal explains how he views himself as the coach of his business, with every employee representing a different player on the team. But perhaps the biggest lesson from the episode is the importance of creating an experience that customers never forget. Sal calls it “knocking them out of their socks.” From having a clean uniform and organized van to putting booties over your shoes, remembering a customer's name, explaining the work, and treating their home as if it were your own, Sal believes the little things separate an average company from an exceptional one.Those small details became so important that Sal began turning them into systems and standard operating procedures. Instead of relying on employees to simply “do a good job,” he created repeatable standards designed to consistently create what he calls raving fans.That philosophy has helped Plumbing Pros build a powerful reputation, with hundreds of five-star reviews in just a few years. Sal explains that premium service creates premium trust—and when you consistently deliver an experience that customers value, you can build a company that people are willing to recommend, call again, and trust with their families.The conversation also dives into what happens when things go wrong. Sal believes business owners have to take ownership when a customer is unhappy. Rather than hiding behind employees or an office staff, he believes the owner should personally face the problem, listen to the customer, determine what went wrong, and do what is reasonable to make it right.Sal also discusses his approach to personal growth and continuous learning. Books such as Rich Dad Poor Dad and The Road Less Stupid, along with the teachings of Tony Robbins, have influenced how he thinks about entrepreneurship, money, decision-making, and personal development. He journals regularly and asks himself one important question:“What's the one thing I could do today that would drive so much success for my business that these other things wouldn't matter?”That mindset helps him focus on the highest-impact problems instead of simply staying busy. But ultimately, Sal believes success isn't just about business. It's about becoming a high-performing person. You don't have to be perfect. You just have to be willing to ask yourself the hard question:Where am I falling short, and what am I going to do about it?Keep raising your standards. Take ownership. Invest in yourself. Build people up. Treat others exceptionally well. Stay disciplined when nobody is watching. And most importantly, don't just do the job. Knock them out of their socks.Speakers: Ethan Van De Hey and Sal SciortaWant to talk or have episode suggestions?Email: vandeheyethan@outlook.com
There may never be a perfect time to buy real estate.A scary headline does not necessarily mean you have a bad investment opportunity.Employment and housing demand are critical factors for real estate investors.The ongoing housing shortage can support long-term rental demand and property values.Appreciation, cash flow, leverage, and tax advantages provide the foundation for building wealth.Discipline and buying criteria matter more than trying to perfectly time the market.The best opportunities may be available when other investors are sitting on the sidelines.Final Thought“If every light was green, everybody else would be buying.” About Jimmy VreelandJimmy graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point, spent 5 years as an Army Ranger, and deployed three times twice to Iraq and once to Afghanistan. On his last deployment, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki which led him down the path of real estate investing. As his own portfolio grew, eventually he started a real estate investing business. Since 2018 his team at Vreeland Capital has supplied over 100 houses a year to high performing, passive investors who want to work with his team and his team is now managing over 800 houses.Get in touch with Jimmy and his team at www.jimmyvreeland.com/getstartedinrealestateMore about JimmyWebsite: www.jimmyvreeland.comLinkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-vreelandInstagram: www.instagram.com/jimmyvreelandFacebook: www.facebook.com/JimmyVreelandYoutube: www.youtube.com/@JimmyVreelandC>>>>>>Get free access to the private Ranger Real Estate facebook group
In this episode, Nathan sits down with Geordie from Williams Real Estate to unpack one of the most powerful frameworks in property investing: the 18-year land cycle. Where we are right now in the cycle, which markets are about to get hurt, which ones are set up for the next boom, and why the people buying in Perth and Brisbane today could be the surrogate parents of the next decade. 00:00 - Intro: Nathan and Geordie's story and how they connected 04:00 - Geordie's background: construction, corporate, Rich Dad Poor Dad, and going all in 09:00 - The 18-year land cycle explained: 14 years of expansion, 4 years of downturn 15:00 - Tracing the cycle back: GFC, 1990 recession, Great Depression 21:00 - Where we sit today: equivalent to mid 2007 or late 1989 27:00 - How money flows through cities: Sydney, Melbourne to Brisbane, Perth and back again 33:00 - The mining boom bust and why those towns will roll over again 39:00 - Why Nathan is buying in Melbourne and Geordie is following 45:00 - The surrogate parent: buying what someone held for 12 years and sold at a loss 50:00 - Two key mistakes buyers agents make and why two big ones went under 55:00 - Cash vs debt, LVR strategy and when Nathan stopped using banks 01:01:00 - Motels, ten thousand properties, and the lazy investor philosophy 01:07:00 - When to sell, when to hold and the ten-year lost decade trap 01:13:00 - Final word: it's a banker's game with houses thrown in the middle Make your move on your property journey today: https://binvested.com.au/make-your-move-now/ What are your thoughts on this video? Share them below and show us some love if you found this video useful.
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Jonathan Berryhill is a former US Army infantry sergeant and law enforcement officer turned real estate entrepreneur, broker, and multifamily investor. He has built multiple seven and eight figure businesses, three real estate brokerages, and a team of over 50 agents. Today he specializes in multifamily investing, real estate growth, leadership, wealth building, discipline, and entrepreneurship. Jonathan grew up dirt poor in a broken home, served in the Army, worked narcotics in law enforcement, and walked on to play linebacker at the University of North Alabama at 25. He moved into medical sales, became a chief operations officer, then launched and sold his own medical device company. He and his wife now live on their farm in North Alabama with six children and four grandsons, and he leads America's Outdoor Realty and Elite Properties of the South across Alabama and Tennessee. His first book, Warrior to Wealth, is releasing this fall. In this episode, Jonathan Berryhill breaks down how he rebuilt his marriage, his identity, and his finances after filing for divorce at 25 with no money and no plan. He explains why alignment at home comes before growth in business, how he wrote down the man he wanted to become and started acting like him, and what separates people who commit from people who try. Jonathan also shares the failure that redirected his real estate career and previews his upcoming book, Warrior to Wealth. Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here. Key Takeaways Define your why clearly enough that it survives setbacks Fix your home life before trying to scale a business Act like the person you want to become, starting now Pay for mentorship through books, podcasts, and lunches Surround yourself with people operating a level above you Know what you are bad at and move toward what you do well Topics From a Mobile Home Floor to a Vision Jonathan grew up dirt poor with plywood covering holes in the floor of his father's mobile home He could visualize a businessman version of himself and refused to repeat what he grew up in The Turning Point at 25 His marriage was in shambles and he and his wife had filed for divorce He called her in Hawaii and promised a life she could only dream of, with no idea how He left law enforcement and walked on to play linebacker at the University of North Alabama Building the Entrepreneurial Track Record Jonathan moved into medical sales and became a chief operations officer He launched his own medical device company and sold it a few years later He and his wife started buying land 14 years ago, which led him into land sales Pick Your Hard Fear of returning to poverty drove him for the first decade of his career He let it go after realizing that being poor is hard and building wealth is hard, so you choose which Alignment Comes First Jonathan frames every area of life as either in line or out of line, starting with home His wife has been his biggest supporter since they reconciled Comfort kills progress in relationships, business, and fitness Motivation vs. Discipline He runs a self-audit: do my daily actions match the goal I say I want Discipline means doing the work on the days you do not feel like it Mentorship and Finding Your Tribe Most people will not spend on a book, a podcast, or a lunch that could change their trajectory Jonathan still seeks mentors at 49 and joins a weekly entrepreneur networking call Weak relationship building is what stalls most people at the next level Forge the Identity, Then Do the Work He wrote down who he wanted to become and started doing what that man would do His advice to an aspiring CEO: study who that CEO knows and what he does daily, then copy it You become the athlete before the recruitment, not after Warrior to Wealth The book is built on three statements: find your mission, forge your identity, build your legacy Jonathan writes openly about his biggest failure, being unfaithful in his marriage He aims to give readers belief that his path is repeatable It Happens Because of You Trying something for 30 to 90 days is not a commitment Jonathan rejects "I have done all I could do" as an escape route Success, a strong marriage, and results all happen because of you Serving Veterans on the Farm Jonathan hosts fishing, hunting, and rodeo events for veterans on his family farm Ruck and Rawhide, supported by the Alabama Department of Veterans Affairs, raises awareness for veteran suicide
George Wright III interviews franchise consultant Greg Mohr, founder of Franchise Maven, about franchising as an “anti-founder” strategy—stepping into proven systems and processes to reach goals faster than starting a business from scratch. Mohr shares his path from Taco Bell and corporate work to franchising after reading “Rich Dad Poor Dad,” and explains who fits franchising best: self-starters with risk tolerance who can be mentored and follow systems. They discuss capital requirements for brick-and-mortar franchises versus service-based franchises, including typical net worth and liquidity expectations and SBA Express loan options. Mohr outlines his client-matching process, the importance of treating a franchise as an asset, and due diligence using the Franchise Disclosure Document (items 19 and 20, bankruptcies, litigation, and open-vs-sold locations). They note post-COVID growth in essential services like HVAC, plumbing, restoration, senior care, and medical franchises, and discuss horizontal and vertical growth for long-term wealth.00:00 Franchise Fit Questions02:00 Greg's Franchise Origin Story03:59 Anti Founder Explained07:31 Who Thrives in Franchising09:19 Capital Needed to Start11:09 Consultant Matching Process12:53 Owner Operator vs Asset14:35 Marketing Support and Leads16:55 Due Diligence and Red Flags20:12 Hot Franchise Sectors Now21:20 Franchising for Wealth BuildingThanks for listening, and Please Share this Episode with someone. It would really help us to grow our show and share these valuable tips and strategies with others. Have a great day.George Wright III“It's Never Too Late to Start Living the Life You Were Meant to Live”FREE Daily Mastermind Resources:CONNECT with George & Access Tons of ResourcesGet access to Proven Strategies and Time-Test Principles for Success. Plus, download and access tons of FREE resources and online events by joining our Exclusive Community of Entrepreneurs, Business Owners, and High Achievers like YOU.Join FREE at DailyMastermind.comFollow me on social media Facebook | Instagram | Linkedin | TikTok | YoutubeGrow Your Authority and Personal Brand with a FREE Interview in a Top Global Magazine HERE.About GregI create entrepreneurs through franchising. Over 12 years, I've guided 300+ entrepreneurs through franchise evaluation and enabled them to open 500+ successful territories. I'm a 2X Wall Street Journal bestselling author (Real Freedom, Expert Resilience) and USA Today Best Seller. I have also worked with and co authored another book, “From Idea to Empire”, with Kevin Harrington, the original shark from Shark Tank.LinksWebsite https://www.franchisemaven.com/book-resources/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/franchisemaven/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/FranchiseMavenLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorykmohr/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@Franchise_Maven
Have you ever caught yourself endlessly researching real estate strategies but never actually making an offer? In this insightful interview, Brent Daniels pulls back the curtain on his journey from a burnt-out real estate agent to a $20 million wholesaling powerhouse. Brent gets brutally honest about why he refuses to take on business partners, how he accidentally stumbled into his first wholesale deal while door-knocking, and why getting trapped in "education mode" will destroy your momentum. You will also discover the 1,000-stranger challenge that can cure any introvert's fear of the phone. Stop overanalyzing and start taking action. Be a part of the TTP training program now.---------Show notes:(0:00) Beginning of today's episode(1:28) Who is Brent Daniels outside of the real estate business?(5:42) Brent's origin story and how Rich Dad Poor Dad changed his trajectory(7:31) The brutal reality of real estate partnerships and why Brent actively avoids them(14:43) How Brent accidentally assigned his first contract while knocking on doors in Phoenix(19:17) Why discovering the wholesaling model completely changed Brent's life(21:33) The 1,000 Stranger Challenge and the ultimate cure for introverted investors(23:17) Why dumb action takers will always outperform smart over analyzers(24:31) Why staying in education mode is just a disguised form of creative avoidance(25:34) Confidence vs. skill and why you cannot fake your way to success in real estate----------Resources:Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert KiyosakiTo speak with Brent or one of our other expert coaches call (281) 835-4201 or schedule your free discovery call here to learn about our mentorship programs and become part of the TribeGo to Wholesalingincgroup.com to become part of one of the fastest growing Facebook communities in the Wholesaling space. Get all of your burning Wholesaling questions answered, gain access to JV partnerships, and connect with other "success minded" Rhinos in the community.It's 100% free to join. The opportunities in this community are endless, what are you waiting for?
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Chelsea and producer Kristina discuss Dolly Parton and Hayden Panettiere, sharing new stories, updates, and what has impacted us so deeply. Wes Perry returns with highlights from Tim Curry's memoir, including who inspired his terrifying Pennywise expressions. Plus: New TV reccs (like “Furious” on Hulu), several updates on Hollywood's sons, and a scam update on the “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” that's made Chelsea plot revenge. Contact us or send us your voice notes: hello@glamoroustrash.com Sign up for Chelsea's screenplay course: Write Your Screenplay the Behind the Bangs Way Follow Chelsea: Instagram @chelseadevantez Join the cookie community: Become a member of the Patreon Thank you to our sponsors: Shopify - Start your free trial at shopify.com/glamorous. Leesa Mattresses - Go to Leesa.com for 25% off select mattresses PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code GLAMOROUS. Quince - Go to quince.com/glamorous for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thrive Causemetics - Get 20% off your first order at thrivecausemetics.com/glamorous. Show Notes: Dringo! Card Poor Dad Author Goes Bust: How Robert Kiyosaki Went Into Debt, to the Tune of $1.2 Billion (Vanity Fair) Dolly Parton tribute flowers to get new life, carrying on her legacy of kindness (WLOS) Where to find our guests: Wes Perry: Instagram Kristina Lopez: Instagram *** Glamorous Trash is all about going high and low at the same time— Glam and Trash. We recap and book club celebrity memoirs, deconstruct pop culture, and sometimes, we cry! If you've ever referenced Mariah Carey in therapy... then this is the podcast for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
And it's PhD Dr. Boyce Watkins explains why the Rich Dad Poor Dad author keeps predicting that the entire economy is going to crash. He explains how fear is used as a metric in investing and how this keeps people stuck in losing money.
In this ICYMI conversation, Dr. Felecia Froe sits down with Sandi Bragar and Cammie Doder on the Money Tales podcast to trace the money narrative that shaped her from childhood all the way to founding Money With Mission. She opens up about watching her mother stay in a domestic violence relationship for financial reasons, the credit card mistakes she made in medical school, and how she used the CASHFLOW 101 game to teach her own daughters about money years before most parents even start the conversation. Felecia also walks through the deal that changed everything: a patient named Jamie who challenged her to buy her first real estate property and removed all the risk in doing so. From there she details the whirlwind of buying 18 properties in two years, the 2008 crash that took it all down along with her marriage, and the hard-won knowledge that let her rebuild and eventually pivot into syndication and mission-driven investing. It's a candid, full-circle look at how failure and a shift in mindset about what money is actually for turned into a mission to help other women build wealth and never feel stuck again. 00:00 - Introductions and the Host's Own Money Lesson 07:12 - A Money Narrative Rooted in Childhood 12:36 - Processing Family History and Early Money Mistakes 18:02 - Rich Dad Poor Dad and Her First Real Estate Deal 21:17 - Rapid Growth, the 2008 Crash, and Starting Over 25:59 - Building Money With Mission and Investing With Purpose 34:40 - Three Questions that will Help you get Clear on Who You are as an Investor You've worked hard to build your career. Now let's build wealth that outlives it. You were born to build more than just wealth. You were born to lead, inspire, and rise. At Wealth B-Hers, we're redefining what it means to be financially fearless. Join a movement of bold women investing with intention, building legacies, and writing their own money rules here - moneywithmission.com/wealth-b-hers/ Get Your Free Guide: https://moneywithmission.co/three-questions-every-woman-should-ask-before-she-invests Connect with Money Tales Podcast Website: https://aspiriant.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aspiriant/ Original Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UhLV_qiFKE&t=7s Key Quotes: "The more people I know, the bigger network I have, the better I'm going to do." - Dr. Felecia Froe "It's not just about the dollar. It is about the difference that dollar is gonna make in someone's life." - Dr. Felecia Froe
Keith breaks down why global crises, geopolitical shocks, and nonstop "doom" headlines haven't stopped stocks and real estate from reaching near all-time highs, and what that means for investors focused on inflation-resistant assets. He also discusses Memphis as a surprising cash-flow market poised to benefit from the AI boom, sharing details on an upcoming webinar with Mid South Homebuyers. Keith is joined by real estate investor and educator Jared Garfield to unpack the "Seven-Figure Solution," a strategy that combines cash-flowing rentals with tax-advantaged life insurance to create liquidity, reduce risk, and support long-term retirement income. Together, they explore how disciplined portfolio growth, smart leverage, and coordinated tax planning can help real estate investors better align their assets with their long-term financial goals. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review" For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold 0:02 Welcome to GRE. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. The world is about to end again. It's the economic disaster that never arrives. I'll break it down. Then you've been earning money and investing well all these years. How does it all go together? It can culminate in the seven-figure solution, it's about seeing your future today on Get Rich Education. What if I told you that one of America's strongest cash flow real estate markets is also becoming the new brains and brawn behind AI? That city is Memphis, believe it or not. And September 30th, we're going to show you why the smart money is paying attention now, along with an investing opportunity you won't want to miss. Join me, Terry Kerr and Matthew Van Horn of Mid South Homebuyers, the largest turnkey company in Memphis with more than 6,000 homes under management, for a free live webinar, the likes of which I've never done before, we're going to look at what billions in new investment could mean for jobs, housing demand, neighborhood appreciation, and your portfolio. Everyone who attends live will also get exclusive access to the best deal terms Mid South has ever offered. Reserve your free seat at getricheducation.com/midsouth again that september 30. Don't say we didn't tell you. Save your spot at getricheducation.com/midsouth. Speaker 1 1:39 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education. Keith Weinhold 1:55 Welcome to GRE from Kankakee, Illinois, to Cherokee, Iowa, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. This is Get Recid Education, and the world is about to end. Even if you survive, your portfolio surely won't. Oh, jeez. At least that's the impression you get from mass media and what I'll call the Doom Scroll Industrial Complex. Fear creates urgency. Urgency attracts eyeballs. Eyeballs attract ad dollars. And I guess that using a slogan like "everything will probably be fine" well, that's never been a great ratings strategy. Now, can what has happened since 2020. Just this cheery little sequence: COVID, then Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, tariffs, and then the war in Iran. All that just since 2020. I mean, that right there sounds less like an economic timeline and more like a movie plot, or that the world is repeatedly spinning the wheel of misfortune. Yet after all of that, what is the result? Both stocks and residential real estate are near all-time highs. Apparently, the apocalypse has been postponed yet again-at least economically speaking. Now let's zoom out and break down these threats and a few more, all just since 2020, because 2020 is the year where, of course, you had the COVID-19 pandemic, economic shutdowns, the fastest major stock bear market in history, supply chain breakdown. You saw empty shelves, and there was unprecedented government intervention from the Paycheck Protection Program to stimulus checks to mortgage loan forbearance. Then, in 2021 and 2022, you had post-COVID inflation and supply shortages. Now, this was more of a result, not strictly geopolitical, but a major investment threat, and that led to aggressive interest rate hikes. From 2022 to the present, you have Russia's invasion of Ukraine, energy and food shocks came from that, sanctions, instability over in Europe, and really a heightened nuclear risk in 2023. You had the U.S. regional banking crisis. Remember SVB, yes, Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, First Republic. They raised fears of a financial contagion that would spread like fat. Than a secret in a small town, it actually made me buy some gold. From 2023 to the present, you had the Israel-Hamas war and this broad Middle East instability, Hezbollah attacks, Houthi attacks, Red Sea shipping disruptions. It's almost like a geopolitical group project. And then from 2025 to the present, you have renewed U.S. tariffs and a global trade war, and this year you have the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran and the Strait of Hormuz disruption. That is the biggest current geopolitical investment threat because it combines all of these things: war, oil disruption, inflation, higher interest rates, and a recession risk. So it's a lot like this particularly unpleasant smoothie that's been blended together. Keith Weinhold 5:55 All right. Well, all of that-that is just an absurd amount of uncertainty and disruption only since 2020, and though major markets are at all-time highs in the face of this, let's acknowledge that some were hurt here, like apartment building owners vulnerable to interest rate resets, and certain commercial sectors like office. Even worse, let's be sensitive to the fact that COVID in wars have resulted in a real loss of life. GRE's enduring strategy of primarily owning long-term residential rentals with fixed-rate debt has been comparatively really resilient. In fact, these calamities-they probably made you better off from the inflation that it has spurred. More people work from home. Well, that means that they're consuming our product while higher inflation debased our debt and jacked up our property values and our rents. And you know somehow every. single generation thinks that their collection of crises is uniquely terrifying, and it is not. And what do I mean by this? Well, in the 1980s, people feared war with the Soviet Union, the Cold War. A global population explosion so bad that millions or billions of people would surely die from hunger. You had the AIDS crisis. You had a hole in the ozone layer. Well, all those things. Virtually zero investors make decisions based on that stuff: an imminent Soviet attack or mass starvation from overpopulation. There is one thing that is 100% certain here, and that is that more shocks are coming. In case you don't want to sleep well, you can get worked up over the certainty of future calamities, artificial intelligence is making cyber attacks faster and more scalable. AI has even created entirely novel viruses. A confrontation between China and Taiwan that could create risk in the semiconductor space. Keith Weinhold 8:18 A blockade that might disrupt the world's advanced chip supply, creating more inflation and more uncertainty. Here is what's changed, though, for what investors care about. You know what has changed with today's set of calamities versus those of the 1980s and earlier, because there is something, and it's a big deal for investors. Here's what's changed: recent history shows that the government does more to intervene during disasters, stimulus checks, liquidity programs where they're printing trillions, bailouts, pushing interest rates down to almost zero, quantitative easing. How about a foreclosure moratorium? Anything you know during COVID, it was a lot of these things, and it was the CARES Act, and it was a student loan payment pause. I mean, the Federal Reserve even set up emergency credit facilities. We now know that when the economic building catches fire, policymakers they rarely stand around admiring the flames. They just flood the place with currency. So the best investors they keep prudently building real estate portfolios in the face of risk, not the absence of risk, because the latter does not exist. This incessant government intervention, whether you agree with it or not, it gives you more safety cushions the next time that things fall apart. That's why what appears risk. Is still risky, but less so. So there is more incentive to take on prudent risk than I've ever seen. You know, no politician wants America to fall apart under their watch. So increasingly, they'll just paper over the problem by printing, printing, printing, and then, therefore, the resultant inflation, the consequence of this, that can be dealt with under the next president's watch, not theirs. In fact, future calamities they almost make you want to own scarce real assets that benefit from inflation, not a hedge, a benefit. Trying to time every war, election, banking crisis, tariff announcement, virus, and Fed decision. Trying to time all of those things-that is usually ineffective. You either own more assets, or you get left behind in everything that's happened since 2020. That just underscores this. In fact, Berkshire Hathaway, the closely watched company that Warren Buffett ran for a long time, but he still has influence in. Keith Weinhold 11:16 You know, they recently began moving out of cash and into assets, they ended their long net selling stretch. In fact, in the latest quarter ended, they've now done the most buying that they've done since early 2022. They have jumped back in the game. It appears that Berkshire Hathaway got tired of sitting on the sidelines and seeing others make gains, and they're pretty bullish on housing too. They bought a home builder. The bottom line here is that shocks are going to keep arriving, and yet productive assets and well-financed residential real estate has repeatedly survived them and just continued appreciating. Don't wait for a risk-free world because you'll wait forever. When you evaluate all these calamities, just since 2020, again, COVID, Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, tariffs, and war in Iran, and then you realize that both real estate and stocks are near all-time highs anyway, and the government keeps backstopping asset owners like never before. This is just a fresh angle on how much better off you are when you prudently own more inflation-benefiting assets sooner. I want to tell you about something called the seven-figure solution. You've been here listening to me weekly since 2014. You've been earning money. You've been investing well, and now you're going to see how it all goes together. It's about making sure that your real estate and your other assets appropriately fund your retirement in a way that gives you protection against market downturns, a tax advantage pool of liquidity, the death benefit of a life insurance policy, and actually introduces you to a new form of leverage all at the same time. Now the liquidity here is key because this is where a 401(k) or IRA limit you, they have taxes and penalties if you want to use those funds early. This doesn't, but the seven-figure solution-it's not just for retirees. In fact, our own in-house investment coach Narayish uses something like this, and he is in his 30s. Let's discuss it, and then you'll see where I have an invitation for you, where you can get involved. I'd like to welcome in a guest we last had on the show a few years ago. Keith Weinhold 13:54 He's a frequent guest on popular shows, including our friends over at the Real Estate Guys Radio Show, and this guest has also been a terrestrial radio show host himself. He's a long-time real estate educator and an active investor, just like you and I. So he speaks from experience and not a textbook. He's the creator of what we'll discuss today, called the Seven Figure Solution. Welcome back to the show, Jared Garfield. Jared Garfield 14:21 Hey, it's great to be with you again. Thanks for having me. Keith Weinhold 14:25 It's so good. Now you're with the Haven Bridge Group, and you help people, especially real estate investors, with what's called the seven-figure solution. Tell us about it. Jared Garfield 14:37 it. Well, Haven Bridge, we get the name for that because people are really looking for a haven of safety, and the bridge is kind of what crosses the gaps that could kind of destroy your wealth, and it's the path to get there. So we want to take people on a path to safety, and the seven-figure solution is the idea that if you're going to be drawing out even 4% per year to not outlive your money, because people are living now. To 8590, 95 years old, and so that means you could have 35 years in retirement. And with inflation and different things like that, you really have to have a lot bigger nest egg than what most people realize. So a seven-figure solution is how to get to more than a million dollars liquid that you can draw on in a tax advantaged manner for the rest of your life, while also having living benefits. And we pull real estate in with it because we want people to have 10 or 15 or 20 rental properties by the time they retired. That they 1031 exchange regularly, so that they're always keeping tax advantages. So that even in retirement you have strong tax advantages, and ultimately we think that when you're 65 or 70, you might want to go from 30 single-family houses to 1031 exchange into one institutional asset that's a little bit less management intensive. Keith Weinhold 15:57 Okay, so this is a tax advantage vehicle that real estate investors can use during their investing career, and those tax advantages then really convert into something that you can use in retirement as well. Jared Garfield 16:11 Yes, what it does is it's a vehicle that instead of saving the money from your cash flow from your rental properties in the bank, we say, well, why wouldn't you rather invest in something where it grows tax-free, number one, and then number two, you don't have the penalties like you would with a 401k, where you get taxed and you get penalized 10% if you pull it out. It's liquid, usually about 80 to 90% liquid, so you can pull from it whenever you like, and you can use it for down payments to grow your real estate portfolio. But you can earn sometimes between five and even seven or 8% in a tax advantaged manner where you're not taxed on it, but you're earning a much higher return than if you put the cash flow into a bank. Keith Weinhold 16:51 All right, so you're building this tax advantage pool of capital that grows over time, and this is important to have some liquidity. You know, Jared, I've often talked to our audience, about three to 5% of your portfolio value ought to be kept liquid. Maybe with a vehicle like this, you would want to put in more of that because real estate investors we have expenses, so you have this liquidity to cover things like vacancies and major repairs, or perhaps you could even use this account for future down payments on additional investment properties. Is that how it's utilized? Jared Garfield 17:27 Yeah, absolutely. And I get it partially this way because in my early 20s, I got up to where I had about six rentals, and at the time, I also owned a real estate brokerage, and I was doing very well. I was making a six-figure income and things. And what happened is, I back when a Keith Weinhold 17:41 six-figure income was a big deal. Jared Garfield 17:43 Yeah, back in the early 2000s, it was a little bit better money. But the funny thing was, I had four rental properties that all went vacant at the same exact time, and so now all of a sudden, I was paying like 4500 bucks a month in mortgages, not counting the house I lived in, but I had to cover four mortgages on four of my rental properties all at the same time, and I hadn't saved the cash flow, so I didn't have a huge emergency fund. All my liquid capital went into down payments and into renovation money to rehab the properties. Okay, and so it put me in a real bind, and I was out driving a Volvo S80 around throwing two paper routes in the mornings, and then going to my real estate brokerage after my paper routes to cover those rental properties. And so this was basically meant as a way to say, okay, this is a way that I have the liquidity. I'm getting a higher return, but now my tenants are not only buying me the houses, but they're also giving me a couple million dollars in life insurance, and they're wrapping my investment component or the cash value of that, the cash value part of the policy. They're wrapping that in a way that it grows tax-free, so it just accomplishes a lot of things. But the other thing that's a beautiful thing about it is there's a lot of things that we call living benefits. Keith Weinhold 19:02 All right, so you have the living benefits and the tax advantages, and I know how you have pointed out that this can save an investor 10s of 1000s of dollars in taxes per year and hundreds of 1000s or more over time. Can you tell us more about that? Jared Garfield 19:20 Yeah, because what happens is the money that goes in is growing tax-free, so you don't get taxed on any of the growth. But what we really like about it is, let's say that you're cash-flowing $2,000 a month off your rental properties, and you're putting 2000 a month into this policy. Usually, after the first year, if you're max funding, 80 to 90% of that's liquid. So if you've got 24,000 sitting in there, you've got access to 89 to 90% of the money. So it's pretty liquid. But what happens is over a 20 or 30 year period, that money could turn into three or 400,000 a year that you can pull out in the form of policy loans. And by doing that, it's not taxed. And you can pull that out throughout your retirement tax-free. So if you were paying 25% in taxes and you're pulling out 200 grand a year, that's $50,000 a year in retirement that you're saving in taxes. But that could be over a 20 or 30-year period. So over 20 years, that 50,000 could end up being a lot of money. I mean, 500,000 over 10 years, a million over 20, and so that means you don't have to accumulate as much. But a lot of our investors love it because they'll save it up with discipline, and then that way it's there if the furnace blows. So it makes your real estate safer, but it also becomes your down payment funds to expand your portfolio. Keith Weinhold 20:40 Okay, the seven-figure solution is the vehicle that we're talking about here, and what part of the IRS code, just briefly, is it that gives this tax advantage? Jared Garfield 20:51 It's Internal Revenue Code Section 79 that allows it to grow tax-free. In the 1980 s, doctors and a lot of very wealthy people were using this to the point that IRS changed the laws. They went and sued the insurance companies because doctors would go in and dump $2 million in, and they would buy a $2 million life insurance policy. So they were self-insured, which meant that they didn't have any cost of mortality on it. So they basically got all the benefits of the tax-free growth and the tax-free pullout. And the IRS said, "Wait a minute! We think you're doing tax evasion. So what they did is they came around and they said, "We're not going to let you use this loophole anymore for the very wealthiest people to have this. So they came to a compromise, and the compromise was that if you wanted to put in 2 million, you had to maintain a corridor where there had to be a little bit higher amount of life insurance. So you might have to buy a $2.3 million policy, but then you could still dump, say, $2 million in and have all the tax advantages. It's a strategy that's been used for over 100 years by families like the Rockefellers and the Hunts and J.P. Morgan. The very wealthiest families have always used these strategies to grow and protect their wealth. Keith Weinhold 21:59 Okay, so it's a part of the tax code that allows cash value to accumulate within and be withdrawn from a life insurance policy tax-free. Jared Garfield 22:11 Correct, and it gives you living benefits, which I alluded to a minute ago. And the living benefits are if if you end up having to go through things like long-term care, disability, if you can't perform, you know certain functions for a certain period of time, chronic illness, critical illness, terminal illness. If any of those things happen to you, you can borrow against the policy and have access to money during those things that would normally decimate your wealth, because you can actually access the death benefit in advance. Keith Weinhold 22:42 Now I know a little about the six risks. Tell us about that. Jared Garfield 22:47 Well, Keith, there are six risks that all investors face regularly. The first one is inflation erosion, and that means that your purchasing power often ends up leaking out of your balance. And the balance might look fine, but inflation can eat away at it. So even if you've raised a lot of money, if inflation means that you can buy half as much five or 10 years from now, then you know your wealth isn't as big as you thought. The second is the volatility setback, and that's sequence of return risk. That means that if you retire on a bad year where things really bad, stock market drops, you could end up using your money at a time where it really weakens your wealth because it may have dropped by 50% So if you had a million, now you have a half a million, and you're spending 100,000 a year. At the end of year one, you might only have 400,000 left. So sequence of of return risks from volatility setback, tax drain. That's just the compounding cost of an uncoordinated tax picture can really be a problem, and then the next one is liquidity. If you don't have liquidity and you've locked up all your money and you can't access it until you're 59 and a half without significant taxation and 10% penalties, the liquidity lock is a problem. There's the longevity paradox. What happens if you outlive your money, you know. So living longer is a benefit, but it exposes you to where you might not have enough money to live on in your latter years. The last two are care avalanche, and that is if an unexpected health event happens at the wrong time, it could really destroy your wealth because medical costs have spiraled out of control, and then the last one is the line to land, and that's only one of the six that's really about growth. Keith Weinhold 24:28 Right, only one of the six of those was about growth. I can't stand the longevity paradox. Yeah, we think we all want to live a long time, but then it's more difficult to fund living a long time, and if you outlive everybody, nobody shows up at your funeral either. The longevity paradox-one of the six risks that the seven-figure solution can really help you with. Now, tell us more about funding it, so you can get a good cash value balance in. There, I know that one way you do it is actually with short-term rentals instead of a paycheck. Jared Garfield 25:06 We love short-term rentals, especially for our highest net worth clients, because the reason is is the bonus depreciation of the big beautiful bill. Oh, right! You could take up to like 150 or even $200,000 in year one, they take that depreciation that they used to spread out over a whole lot of years, and they make it to where if you get with your CPA and you analyze your short-term rental, you could potentially take all of the furnishings, all of the artwork, all of the dishes and things that are in the property. Sometimes they'll let you take components like the appliances, the air conditioning unit, the furnace, and they'll let you take it all in year one instead of having to line item it and spread it out over you know 27 and a half years. So what this means is, if you have a short term rental, then you you might get like 150 to 200,000 tax break in the first year on the right property, but it's better than that because instead of having to have like 750 hours to hit full-time real estate professional status, it cuts the hours that you have to have significantly down. I think it's more like 150 hours or something like that, or 300. It's like half the hours, and so you can hit the benefits of taking unlimited passive loss much easier if you have a couple of short-term rentals. Keith Weinhold 26:24 You're listening to Get Rich Education. We're talking with Jared Garfield about the seven-figure solution, something that takes some time to understand, but it can give you a tax-advantaged pool of capital that grows over time, and it also creates this overall tailwind, not just during your investor life, but then it provides tax advantaged retirement income at the same time. More on this when we come back. 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Something that can be a particular benefit to real estate investors both during your investing career and then once you're in retirement as well, and this can take the form of either an indexed universal life policy or a whole life policy. There are a lot of wrong ways to do this and wrong things to get into. We're talking about the right way. Part of that is funding it as best you can. Can you tell us more about that? Jared Garfield 29:20 Well, there's a lot of different ways to fund it. A lot of our clients will come in. We have some people who will use rollovers if they're nearing the end of retirement. Some people will roll over a 401k into a cash value life insurance policy because they can do it over a five or seven year period, and they pay the taxes when they roll it over, so their taxes go up a little bit for five or seven years of retirement, but then what happens is that means that during their retirement they're not taxed on the income all the way through retirement, so that can save really significantly. But a lot of our clients will do a flip and dump 40 or 50,000 a year in by just saying I'm going to do one flip a year and use that to. Fund the whole thing, or they'll take the cash flow and dump the cash flow into here instead of the bank, just so that they get the living benefits and they get the much higher return with still 80 to 90% liquidity. So could be cash flow from rentals, could be money from a flip, or sometimes some of these short-term rentals can make 20 to $30,000 a year, and if you get $100,000 tax break, you have more money that's not going to Uncle Sam, and then because that's your discretionary income now, because of the tax break, you could use that money to for down payments to grow your portfolio or to do a flip. Keith Weinhold 30:35 Now, Jared, I sort of think of the cash value that you're accumulating in this policy as safe money that grows at a slow to moderate steady rate, but if it rarely or ever loses value, can you tell us more about that and the rate of return expected in the policy? Jared Garfield 30:52 Yeah, absolutely. With the IULs, it's going to depend a little bit upon the carriers and stuff like that, and whether you go with a mutual company and stuff like that. It can vary, but a lot of times people are going with things that are what we call indexed. So you can actually index it to the S and p5 100 if you think that we're going to have a bull market and the market's going to really go up strongly. You can index it to the market, and sometimes they'll have a participation rate where they'll say, "Okay, you can participate up to 12% So if the stock market does 17% the most you can make is 12% So you're giving up a little bit of upside, but that's still not nothing. I mean, that's not three or 4% You can still make you know 10 or 12% that year, but you're giving up the part above the participation rate. And the reason that you do that is if the market tanks and drops by 30 or 40% The worst you can do is 0% return. Zero is my hero because you didn't lose anything. So if you had a half a million sitting there, you don't go down to 250 and then wait eight years to get back to break even. Instead, you're still at half a million. And if the market goes up next year by 20% and you had a 10% cap. Then your half a million, you know, is now at 550,000. When everybody else, if it went up by 10% they're at half the amount that they had. Keith Weinhold 32:13 You have a story or example of how you've helped somebody with this, because I know a lot of investors that are passionate about utilizing the cash value inside an insurance policy tell us. Jared Garfield 32:28 Well, I've got one friend who's a developer, and he did like a $5 million policy. And every time he flip a subdivision or flip a house, and let's back Keith Weinhold 32:36 up. Does a $5 million policy mean that's the death benefit? Jared Garfield 32:40 Yeah, that's the death benefit. Thanks for catching that. That's the death benefit, but that also has a correlation to how much money you can dump into it. So if you have a $5 million policy, you can dump a lot more money in for the tax free growth. And the quicker you hit that death benefit amount, at that point you're self-insured, and so at that point you really don't have cost of insurance on administering the policy hardly at all, and so at that point, when you're what we call self-insured, the return on the investment becomes a lot better. But this particular developer was able to use this policy because he had so much cash value in, and if he sold a house, he'd take 40,000. If he sold 10 a year, he might take you know 400,000 and dump it into this policy, and so it made him bankable. And he was able to use the money to go out and do new subdivision developments because the bank would actually use the policy as the collateral to be able to give him loans at much lower interest rates. Keith Weinhold 33:38 That's valuable. Tell us about that. I don't want to use the wrong words here, but then effectively with this example, are you borrowing against the funds in the policy? So therefore, you can get those dollars working for you somewhere else, all while simultaneously the cash value continues to compound and grow. Sort of another form of leverage. Jared Garfield 34:01 Correct. What they basically do is they basically freeze part of the amount and say, okay, we're using this as the collateral and stuff like that to be able to do the loan. But if it grows and and makes 7% you're still making the money off of the money that's sitting in there. It's just collateralized as part of the loan. And some people will even use it to like go buy a car, like instead of buying a car and going getting a bank loan and paying 7% to the bank, they might borrow money out, go pay cash for the car from the life insurance policy loan, and pay 2% instead of 7% But they're paying it to themselves, and as long as they're paying the interest to themselves, if the money that they borrow out could potentially still earn the same money and earn 7% even though you had borrowed out. So it's doing two things for you at the same time, as long as you're paying that loan interest. But and that depends on the option that you take when you do your loan. Keith Weinhold 34:54 We love leverage around here. Leverage trumps compound interest. In so many ways. Oh, I'm really glad that you told us some more about that using the funds in more than one way at the same time. Tell us more about what it costs for the investor, the costs of setting this up, and then what some of those trade-offs are, Jared. Jared Garfield 35:18 Well, that really depends on the individual. I mean, everybody has to sit down and be able to decide what is acceptable for them. You know, a lot of times people will want to max fund the 401k that they're doing at least just to the amount that's matched. But then after that, this could be a great place instead of putting a whole bunch more money into a 401k. Some people will elect to say, "I'm going to put the matching portion into my 401k, but then I'm going to take my cash flow from my real estate and money that I could have contributed to other alternatives and put it into this because I want the liquidity. I want to be able to leverage this money and pull it out without any restrictions. That as long as I can pull out 80 to 90 percent, I could go buy a car wash, or I could invest in a business, or I could, you know, do whatever I wanted to. I could loan it to my kids for their college and make them pay me loans back to my policy. There gives you a lot of flexibility to do it. But the thing that we love about it is we'll do what's called an illustration, and it may end up if you start at the right time, it could be a six-figure passive income stream at retirement, and then if you have the real estate, because this helped you grow your portfolio, where without doing the strategy, you might have ended up with say 10 properties. We might be able to get you to 20 or 30 properties working together as a team with your real estate coaches and stuff like that. Then we can potentially grow your real estate portfolio, and what we want to do is 1031 exchange every seven to eight years. I don't believe in holding properties for 30 years. Jared Garfield 36:47 I believe in exchanging them every seven to eight years because when the tax benefits have been used up, if you exchange to twice the size portfolio, you have better appreciation on a portfolio worth twice as much. But that new value, you still get the depreciation advantages, where the old value that was half, you know, the depreciation is used up. So you're you're getting new depreciation on the higher value assets, and then our goal would be that by the time you don't want to be involved in managing the property managers, that at some point you're going to have a 200 unit apartment complex with on-site management, and at that point you don't have any financial worries really because you're 1031 exchanging into those apartment complexes, but you have so much equity that you're still maintaining depreciation during your retirement years. When most people who have lesser plans don't have the tax advantages, Keith Weinhold 37:41 I love that you said so much of that, and to you, the listener, Jared is licensed to do this, and our own in-house investment coach. You mentioned coaching. Naresh has the proper licensing as well to holistically help integrate this into your investor life. And for example, yes, we are rarely of the mindset that you would hold a property for all 30 years because after seven to 10 years, your leverage ratio gets worn down, and then additionally, if you're buying turnkey properties, oftentimes that's when capex expenditures start to enter into the picture. So yes, oftentimes we do these seven to 10 year holds. Jared Garfield 38:23 I love that. Yeah, that's a really really good strategy, and and it always makes it to where you can grow so much bigger portfolio by not being taxed through that exchange. And you know, believe it or not, there's actually even ways when you have extra cash boot, they do allow if you notify them in advance. Sometimes you can take some of the cash boot on the exchange and roll it into some of the products that we utilize. Keith Weinhold 38:47 For more specifics, I know you said it's based on one's individual situation, but how much does it cost to set up a policy? And then, are there any ongoing maintenance fees? Can you give us more specifics there? Jared Garfield 38:59 So, there's small fees to administer the policy because you have people who are trading and doing different things and working within the policy for the funds. But usually, you can set policies up as low as 100 or even $200 a month. We don't usually recommend that because you want to max fund it. Usually, when you're doing these strategies, if you're just doing $100 or $200 a month, you're basically buying life insurance, but you're missing a lot of the benefits because what you want to do is to be able to max fund it. So what we like people to do is get as minimum life insurance. That's not in our advantage because we get paid based on the premium of the amount of life insurance you get. But you get the smallest amount of life insurance for the amount that you can max fund. I would much rather have somebody get a $500 a month policy that, let's say, they could put you know a thousanmd a month in or something like that, than to have somebody get $1,000 a month policy where they're paying a thousand a month but they can't max fund it because by max funding it you're maximizing the growth component of the cash. Value, and so it depends on how much you want. But you can go anywhere from $100 or $200 a month to we have clients that will dump $20,000 a month in because they really want to shield as much money as they can from tax growth. Keith Weinhold 40:15 Tell us more about who the seven-figure solution is for and who it's not for. Jared Garfield 40:20 Well, if you're living month to month and you don't have discretionary income, it's probably not a good solution. In that situation, you probably want to get term insurance and just make sure that you cover catastrophic things. But if you've got discretionary income and you've got an extra four to $500 a month that you could use to max fund, we figure most people need life insurance anyway, and the way that we teach it, when you mix it with real estate, rather than pulling it from your monthly budget, doesn't it make a lot more sense to let your tenants buy the houses for you, but also pay for a half a million or a million dollar life insurance policy for you, where the tenants are covering the savings for anything that happens at the property with capex or vacancy or damage, and at the same time covering life insurance and potentially a six-figure passive income that's tax advantaged at retirement. So I pull the money out from other assets and let the assets cover this asset. Keith Weinhold 41:18 Oh well, Jared, this has been great. Before I ask you if you have any last things to tell the audience about the seven-figure solution, I invite you, the audience, to join us. It's going to be Jared and our own in-house investment coach, Nareesh, bringing you a live online event that you can join from the comfort of your own home next Thursday, the 27th at 8 PM Eastern. You can register now; it's free at grewebinars.com because there are a lot of moving parts, and it does take some time to wrap your head around this, benefiting from the cash value of an insurance policy. And this way you can have a Q and A, and you can get answers in real time at this event. It's called the Seven Figure Solution: Build wealth, reduce risk, and create tax advantage retirement income through real estate. Again, it is next Thursday, the 27th at 8p.m. Eastern, you probably have generated some questions inside your head while you're listening to this, and you can sure have them answered there as you're going to learn a whole lot more about it next Thursday. This could help a lot of people. Jared, do you have any last thoughts? Jared Garfield 42:38 I think the only thing is that we like to work with the team. We like to work with your CPA. We like to work with your real estate investment coach. I used to be a coach and trainer for Robert Kiyosaki, who wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, and he always talked about power teams. And so we want to be able to be a part of your power team and work with your other advisors to help you implement something. We're not here to give you tax advice. We want you to be able to work with your investment advisors and your CPAs, and just be a part of the team. But I would point out that over my career, I've owned hundreds and hundreds of single-family cash flow rentals, duplexes, fourplexes, apartment complexes. I've done some land development, and I implement these strategies myself. I had 17 Airbnbs, and so these are the strategies that I implemented as a full-time real estate professional. I felt like that this strategy of having a seven-figure solution could help you to avoid some of the pitfalls that I experienced in my 20s. Keith Weinhold 43:32 So much all comes together for one pretty comprehensive solution. It's the intersection of growing your portfolio, getting tax advantages and having the death benefits of insurance and more all coming together next Thursday, so that you can learn more. Jared, it's been great having you back on the show. Jared Garfield 43:52 Thanks, Keith. Always glad to join you. Keith Weinhold 44:00 Integrate the seven-figure solution the GRE way, where we have this conscientiousness about leverage and cash flow. In this case, it's how to prudently leverage a life insurance policy. When it's time to tap your cash value, you take what is a policy loan, not a withdrawal, because you're borrowing against your cash value, hence using the funds in more than one place, and the IRS does not tax loan proceeds. This reminds me of a billionaire and how they borrow against the value of their stock. That way, they don't have to sell their assets. This is similar to what you can do with this. Another thing is that you know real estate investors are not used to a volatile ride because our asset values stay stable. You heard Jared mention the acronym IUL there. That's an indexed universal life policy. It's a real benefit. That says you tie yours to the S and P five hundred. Well, that index was down 18% in 2022, and that your cash value can have an upside ceiling and loss protection on the downside-an option that you'll care more about as you get toward retirement. In 2008, the S&P was down 37% so the math is cruel on value losses. In fact, it's even worse than it sounds because if you're down 30%, then you need a 43% gain just to get back to even. That is just math. Keith Weinhold 45:39 There are some mistakes to avoid here, and you don't just want to set up your seven-figure solution off of a website. And it is based on products that you might have heard of from companies like Nationwide and Mass Mutual. I strongly encourage you learn more, see how it all goes together, learn how the seven-figure solution compares to other vehicles like a Roth IRA, 401k, 721 exchange, and 1031 exchange. This is very much about seeing your future. You've been listening to me here every week for almost 12 years, earning money from your day job, building your real estate portfolio, either from our investment coaching or on your own. This is how it all goes together. Next week with Jared and GRE investment coach Naresh. By attending live, you can have your questions answered in real time. One last time, you can sign up for the event for next Thursday, the 27th at 8 PM. Eastern, 5 PM. Pacific. Learn about something that's potentially really valuable to you: the seven-figure solution at grewebinars.com. Until next week, I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream. Speaker 2 46:59 Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal, or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively. Keith Weinhold 47:26 The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building, getricheducation.com
Rich Dad Poor Dad has sold over 32 million copies. BUT it's also been called thin on advice and full of dud predictions. So how much should you actually trust the world's best-selling money book?In this episode, Ed and Andrew put Kiyosaki on trial. You'll learn:The best ideas from Rich Dad Poor Dad that still hold up todayWhere the author misses the markHow to separate the high value from the hypeKeep the lessons, ignore the Armageddon. This episode helps you tell the two apart.For more from Opes Partners:Sign up for the weekly Private Property newsletterInstagramTikTok
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Ray pays tribute to one of the books that kicked off his own entrepreneur journey back in 2004 — Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad. Before digging into the sales lessons, Ray shares the behind-the-scenes story of how that book almost never made it: rejected by publishers, self-printed in car washes, and saved by a 200,000-copy invoice from Amway legend Dexter Yager. That hustle story alone is worth the listen. From there, Ray pulls out the real gold — the sales principles woven throughout Kiyosaki's teachings that most people skip right past. Whether you're an entrepreneur, employee, or investor, you are always selling. Fear of rejection keeps people poor. And passive income dreams mean nothing if your active income skills aren't sharp first. Ray makes it plain: no matter what industry you're in, you're in the sales and marketing business. Master that, and everything else opens up.
What if nonprofit leaders stopped seeing wealth as something separate from mission and began viewing it as the capacity to create greater impact? In this episode of The Nonprofit Exchange, Hugh Ballou talks with Nathan Barkocy about moving from scarcity thinking to an abundance mindset grounded in stewardship, time, relationships, faith, and sustainable impact. Episode Summary Nonprofit leaders talk often about generosity, sacrifice, stewardship, and service, yet the word wealth can still feel uncomfortable in mission-driven organizations. Nathan Barkocy challenges that tension by redefining wealth as something much larger than financial accumulation. In his view, true wealth includes money, but it also includes ownership of time, meaningful relationships, purpose, faith, health, resilience, and the ability to multiply positive impact for others. Nathan's perspective was shaped by a life-changing experience. At age 16, while a nationally ranked competitive cyclist with ambitions of reaching the Tour de France and the Olympics, he was struck by a car traveling about 60 miles per hour. He survived, spent two weeks in a coma, and awoke paralyzed. Recovery required him to relearn how to walk, talk, and eat. That experience reshaped his understanding of what is truly valuable and led him to live by the conviction that tomorrow is never promised. For Nathan, time became the most limited and precious asset because once it is spent, it cannot be recovered. That insight became foundational to his philosophy of True Wealth. Nathan explains that money matters because it provides capacity: the capacity to build, to give, to serve, and to expand impact. But money is not the final measure. True wealth is revealed in what a person or organization is able to multiply for others. The conversation turns directly to the nonprofit sector and the persistent scarcity mindset that can limit leaders and organizations. Nonprofits often operate from assumptions such as "we can't afford it," "there isn't enough," or "we have to do everything ourselves." Nathan argues that leaders should instead begin with a different question: How much impact do you want to make? He points to the abundance of capital and opportunity already present in the marketplace and encourages nonprofit leaders to recognize that many people with resources are actively looking for meaningful ways to create social impact. Hugh and Nathan also explore wealth as stewardship rather than accumulation. Nathan distinguishes among old wealth, new wealth, and true wealth. Old wealth emphasizes long-term accumulation and preservation. New wealth often reflects entrepreneurial speed, visibility, and lifestyle. True wealth, as Nathan describes it, integrates the useful aspects of both while focusing on ownership of time, multiple streams of income, personal well-being, and impact. For nonprofit leaders, that means treating money as fuel for the mission rather than as something to fear or avoid. A major part of the conversation centers on relationships. Nathan emphasizes the "power of association" and the importance of intentionally surrounding yourself with people who can expand your thinking, open doors, and help you grow. He credits his relationship with Sharon Lechter, co-author of Rich Dad Poor Dad and his co-author on Old Wealth. New Wealth. True Wealth., as an example of how mentorship and association can transform opportunity. His father's advice captures the idea simply: "Show me your friends and I'll show you your future." For nonprofits, this relational wealth has practical consequences. Strong relationships with donors, investors, community leaders, mentors, and other nonprofit professionals can expand both funding and influence. Nathan describes the nonprofit model as a potential win-win-win: when organizations create value for others, donors and partners can participate in that impact, and the broader community benefits. Faith is another essential part of Nathan's understanding of abundance. His encounter with death deepened his gratitude for each day and reinforced the importance of using time intentionally. He describes every day as "an abundance of opportunity" and connects true wealth with creating positive relationships and building God's kingdom through meaningful impact. Nathan closes with practical advice for leaders who recognize that they have been operating from scarcity: get into the right rooms. Surround yourself with people who are where you want to be, learn from people who have created the kind of impact you seek, and stop allowing limited beliefs to determine the size of your mission. The amount of impact a nonprofit can create, he argues, is deeply connected to the abundance mindset of its leaders. · True wealth includes money, but it also includes time, purpose, faith, health, relationships, resilience, and the ability to create impact. · Time is a finite asset. Nonprofit leaders should audit how they spend it and whether those choices move the mission forward. · Scarcity thinking can limit an organization's impact long before actual resources do. · Money is not the mission, but it is fuel for the mission. · Wealth is strongest when it is stewarded and multiplied for others rather than merely accumulated. · Relationships are a form of capital. The people around a leader can expand opportunity, learning, funding, and impact. · An abundance mindset begins by recognizing that there are people, resources, and opportunities available to support meaningful work. · Leaders should intentionally place themselves in rooms with people who challenge and expand their thinking. “Tomorrow is never promised. Make the most of today.” “True wealth is measured in what you multiply for others.” “Every day is an abundance of opportunity.” “Show me your friends and I'll show you your future.” Nathan Barkocy is an entrepreneur, keynote speaker, mentor, and advocate for a broader definition of wealth. After surviving a near-fatal accident as a teenager, he rebuilt his health, faith, and life and developed a philosophy centered on ownership of time, purpose, relationships, generosity, and sustainable impact. He is a co-author of Old Wealth. New Wealth. 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In this episode, Aaron Lambert shares his journey from solitude and reading Rich Dad Poor Dad to building RKL Investments, focusing on new construction, assisted living, and memory care. Discover how resilience, relationships, and strategic pivots drive success in real estate. In this episode, we explore how a real estate entrepreneur leverages strategic planning, marketing, and team management to grow a diversified property portfolio across multiple markets. Discover actionable insights on scaling, automation, and building a resilient business in real estate. Professional Real Estate Investors - How we can help you: Investor Fuel Mastermind: Learn more about the Investor Fuel Mastermind, including 100% deal financing, massive discounts from vendors and sponsors you're already using, our world class community of over 150 members, and SO much more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/apply Investor Machine Marketing Partnership: Are you looking for consistent, high quality lead generation? Investor Machine is America's #1 lead generation service professional investors. Investor Machine provides true 'white glove' support to help you build the perfect marketing plan, then we'll execute it for you…talking and working together on an ongoing basis to help you hit YOUR goals! Learn more here: http://www.investormachine.com Coaching with Mike Hambright: Interested in 1 on 1 coaching with Mike Hambright? Mike coaches entrepreneurs looking to level up, build coaching or service based businesses (Mike runs multiple 7 and 8 figure a year businesses), building a coaching program and more. Learn more here: https://investorfuel.com/coachingwithmike Attend a Vacation/Mastermind Retreat with Mike Hambright: Interested in joining a "mini-mastermind" with Mike and his private clients on an upcoming "Retreat", either at locations like Cabo San Lucas, Napa, Park City ski trip, Yellowstone, or even at Mike's East Texas "Big H Ranch"? Learn more here: http://www.investorfuel.com/retreat Property Insurance: Join the largest and most investor friendly property insurance provider in 2 minutes. Free to join, and insure all your flips and rentals within minutes! There is NO easier insurance provider on the planet (turn insurance on or off in 1 minute without talking to anyone!), and there's no 15-30% agent mark up through this platform! Register here: https://myinvestorinsurance.com/ New Real Estate Investors - How we can work together: Investor Fuel Club (Coaching and Deal Partner Community): Looking to kickstart your real estate investing career? Join our one of a kind Coaching Community, Investor Fuel Club, where you'll get trained by some of the best real estate investors in America, and partner with them on deals! You don't need $ for deals…we'll partner with you and hold your hand along the way! Learn More here: http://www.investorfuel.com/club —--------------------
Felecia Froe became a urologic surgeon after succeeding in medical school and urology residency. Somehow she knew this wasn't the last thing she would ever do. Her mind as rewired about the idea of money after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kyosaki. In this ICYMI conversation with Mary Katherine Johnson of Planet Wealth, Felecia traces her path buying 18 properties in two years, losing nearly everything in the 2008 crash, and rebuilding into a social impact investor who's now running sober living homes and fighting food deserts. She gets honest about the fear that doesn't fully go away, even after decades of deals, the mindset shift from working for money to making money work for you, and why she believes no woman should ever feel financially stuck in a job or relationship. This one's part memoir, part masterclass in risk, and part call to action for women ready to stop waiting for permission. 00:00 - From the OR to Real Estate: Felecia's Origin Story 05:24 - Finding "The Thing": Social Impact Investing 12:05 - The Courage to Change Course 18:50 - The Mission Behind Money with Mission 23:05 - Reframing Risk and the Money Mindset Shift 28:35 - Turning Communities Around and Advice for New Investors You've worked hard to build your career. Now let's build wealth that outlives it. You were born to build more than just wealth. You were born to lead, inspire, and rise. At Wealth B-Hers, we're redefining what it means to be financially fearless. Join a movement of bold women investing with intention, building legacies, and writing their own money rules. Ready to take the next step? Visit our website - moneywithmission.com/wealth-b-hers/ Connect with Planet Wealth! Website: https://planetwealth.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/callmemkj/?isSelfProfile=false Podcast: https://youtu.be/XPZuNuiI6tA?si=rDig3_5l-dfvh9dQ Key Quotes: "When you send your money out to work for you, the thing it's supposed to do is come back with more money." -Dr. Felecia Froe "I want finances not to be the reason that you're stuck." - Dr. Felecia Froe
What if the two words you never meant to say turned out to be the most important words of your life? In this episode, Ryan Lee, founder of Wealth Outside Wall Street and author of Retire in 10 Years or Less, shares how losing most of his net worth in 2008 led him to discover a completely different way of thinking about money. He retired at 34, not because he was rich, but because he had built enough cash flow from 17 rental properties to walk away from a job he never wanted. The moment came when his boss Rob showed up unexpectedly to offer him more territory. Ryan was sitting there mentally counting his cash flow when Rob asked if he was ready. Without thinking, he said "I quit." He spent the next decade teaching over 3,000 people to do the same. [00:04:00] What He Does and Who He Serves Founder of Wealth Outside Wall Street, helping driven individuals take control of their money Serves entrepreneurs, business owners, and freedom seekers who want more control over their time Believes money's greatest value is giving people more options with their time [00:06:00] How He Got Here Dropped out of high school; came back at 23 and finished a four-year degree in two Moved to Arizona for his first corporate job; opened his first paycheck and nearly quit on the spot Was making less as a college grad than he was as a self-employed hustler paying his way through school Decided to climb the corporate ladder instead; 2008 changed everything [00:09:00] The 2008 Wake-Up Call Watched his net worth drop from $100,000 to $28,000 at the bottom of the crash Realized he had no control over the outcome of what he was investing in Saw people 20 to 30 years ahead of him watching their retirements melt away Decided he had to find a completely different way to think about money [00:11:00] The Books That Changed His Paradigm Picked up Rich Dad Poor Dad after 2008; the phrase "savers are losers" hit him like a slap Found Creating Wealth by Robert Allen with a subtitle promising retirement in 10 years The strategy was simple: buy two single-family homes a year for 10 years That concept filled the void Kiyosaki opened and gave him a concrete path forward [00:14:00] The Day He Quit Was managing the Denver territory for a medical equipment company when his boss Rob showed up unexpectedly Rob offered him three additional territories; more road, more travel, more time away from family While Rob was talking, Ryan was mentally adding up his cash flow from 17 rental properties Rob asked if he was ready; Ryan looked up and said "I quit" without planning to [00:17:00] The First Client Who Started It All: Dr. Wes Brown A week after quitting, a doctor he used to sell equipment to called and asked how he did it Sat with him at his kitchen table and mapped out what he would do if he were in his position Eighteen months later Dr. Brown quit medicine and has been singing in his choir ever since That one conversation led to 3,000 clients; Dr. Brown started sending referrals immediately [00:21:00] The First Relationship That Changed Everything: Russell Brunson After three years and 250 clients, wanted to reach more people but had no idea how to go online Read Dotcom Secrets in 18 hours; it was a manual for everything he wanted but didn't know how to do Found out Brunson was hosting an event in San Diego in 10 days; bought tickets and showed up Paid $25,000 to join his inner circle; says the return has been 10x what he ever paid [00:25:00] The Second and Third Relationships: Robert Allen and Robert Kiyosaki Hosted a live event and decided to invite the two authors who had shaped his entire philosophy Used mutual friend Randy Garn to connect with Robert Allen; got to Kiyosaki through another connection Gave them both lifetime achievement awards on stage; Allen said it was the most fulfilled he had ever felt by writing a book Allen co-authored his new book Retire in 10 Years or Less; Kiyosaki wrote the foreword [00:32:00] Final Word: Mindset, Skillset, Network The three best investments anyone can make are mindset, skillset, and network Mindset determines what you can see; upgrade your paradigm and new possibilities appear A strong network means you always have someone to call when things get hard or when things are great Be the kind of person others call in a crisis; that is the greatest form of leverage you can have KEY QUOTES "Money's greatest intrinsic value is to give each one of us more control over our time and more options with what we do with that time." - Ryan Lee "Mindset, skillset, network. Those are the three best investments you can ever make." - Ryan Lee CONNECT WITH RYAN LEE Website: https://www.wealthoutsidewallstreet.com Book: https://www.retirein10years.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-d-lee-31838b304 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ryan.d.lee.50 Thanks for tuning in! If you liked my show, please LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW, like, and subscribe! Find me on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | iHeart Radio | Stitcher
Do you realize it takes a staggering $27 million in paid-off real estate to passively net $1 million a year? Too many real estate investors read Rich Dad Poor Dad and instantly want to jump into building a rental portfolio, completely ignoring the active business required to actually fund it. In this perspective-shifting episode, Brent Daniels breaks down the national data to prove exactly why you are likely building wealth backwards. He shares how he netted $1.14 million last year working just five hours a week, simply by keeping marketing costs low and hiring top-tier talent. You will discover the hidden 50% operating expense landlords face, why your attention is your ultimate currency, and the proper sequence for funneling wholesale profits into safe, long-term assets. Stop playing landlord when you should be operating like a CEO. Be a part of the TTP training program now.---------Show notes:(0:53) How the book Rich Dad Poor Dad breaks your brain regarding passive income(1:55) The ultimate passive income goal, which is netting $1,000,000 a year after taxes(3:01) Breaking down the national statistics on residential rental rates and operating expenses(4:56) Why you actually need $27 million in paid-off real estate to net $1 million a year(7:00) How Brent netted $1.14 million last year working only five hours a week(8:18) The secret to massive net profits are low marketing budgets and high-quality team members(10:03) Why you must build a wildly profitable business before becoming a full-time investor(10:59) Why your personal attention is the most valuable resource on planet earth(12:38) The danger of wasting your entrepreneurial energy managing a small rental portfolio(13:58) Breaking down the Cashflow Quadrant and the fastest true path to wealth creation----------Resources:Dew Wealth ManagementStatistaRich Dad Poor DadTo speak with Brent or one of our other expert coaches call (281) 835-4201 or schedule your free discovery call here to learn about our mentorship programs and become part of the TribeGo to Wholesalingincgroup.com to become part of one of the fastest growing Facebook communities in the Wholesaling space. Get all of your burning Wholesaling questions answered, gain access to JV partnerships, and connect with other "success minded" Rhinos in the community.It's 100% free to join. The opportunities in this community are endless, what are you waiting for?
In this episode, we sit down with Garrett Gunderson, entrepreneur, financial educator, and bestselling author of Money Unmasked and Killing Sacred Cows 2.0, to challenge some of the most common beliefs about money and wealth creation… For more than 25 years, Garrett has helped business owners and entrepreneurs rethink traditional financial advice, showing them how to increase cash flow, reduce financial inefficiencies, and build lasting wealth without sacrificing the life they want to live today. Known for his unconventional approach to personal finance, Garrett encourages people to move beyond outdated financial rules by focusing on increasing their value, protecting what they earn, and making intentional financial decisions rather than relying solely on conventional investing strategies. This conversation explores: The biggest financial myths that prevent people from building wealth. Why earning more can often be more impactful than simply cutting expenses. How taxes, interest, fees, and financial inefficiencies quietly reduce long-term wealth. The importance of cash flow and financial flexibility. Garrett is the author of ten books on personal finance and entrepreneurship, and has had work published in the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and more. His insights have been endorsed by leading financial and business authors, and he has shared the stage with influential speakers including the Dalai Lama, Richard Branson, Tony Robbins, and Robert Kiyosaki. Through his books, speaking engagements, and educational programs, Garrett continues to help individuals rethink their relationship with money and build wealth on their own terms. Connect with Garrett: Website Instagram Get your free Money Book Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/garrettbgunderson/ X: https://x.com/GBGunderson Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@GarrettGundersonTV Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@garrettgunderson_
Sharon Lechter is a globally recognized keynote speaker, bestselling author, and elite business strategist committed to advancing financial literacy and entrepreneurial success. A licensed CPA for over 35 years, she co-authored the international bestseller Rich Dad Poor Dad and more than a dozen titles in the Rich Dad series. As CEO, she helped grow the Rich Dad Company into a worldwide brand. Sharon also partnered with the Napoleon Hill Foundation to reintroduce timeless success principles through bestselling books including Think and Grow Rich: Three Feet from Gold, Outwitting the Devil, and Think and Grow Rich for Women. She is the founder and CEO of Pay Your Family First, a financial education organization focused on empowering families and business owners. Appointed to the first U.S. President's Advisory Council on Financial Literacy, she has advised national leaders while continuing her impact as a mentor, philanthropist, mother, and grandmother. During the show we discuss: Why financial literacy—not income—is the foundation of wealth The difference between active income vs. passive income (and why it matters) How the Cashflow game teaches real-world wealth-building principles Why most people make poor financial decisions—and how to avoid them How to think like an investor instead of an employee The real reason Rich Dad Poor Dad resonated globally—and what it teaches How to build scalable income streams through assets (real estate, business, investments) Why mindset and habits determine long-term financial success more than tactics Resources: https://sharonlechter.com/ https://success.sharonlechter.com/
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Get my new book: https://bronsonequity.com/fireyourselfDownload my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflationIn this episode of The Mailbox Money Show, Bronson Hill and co-host Nate Hambrick welcome Nathan Barkocy for a deeply personal conversation about life, death, faith, and redefining true wealth.Nathan shares his near-death experience at age 16, what he saw in heaven, and how that moment completely transformed his perspective on money, time, risk, and legacy. The discussion covers overcoming adversity, building multiple streams of income, the power of mentorship, and creating wealth that extends far beyond dollars.About the Guest:Nathan Barkocy is the author of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth (co-authored with Sharon Lechter of Rich Dad Poor Dad fame), a successful real estate investor, entrepreneur, and founder of the True Wealth community. A former nationally ranked cyclist, his life was forever changed by a miraculous recovery that reshaped how he views success and impact.Tune in for an inspiring episode on resilience, faith, and building lasting wealth.TIMESTAMPS0:40 - Welcome | Guest Intro: Nathan Barkocy1:55 - Nate Hambrick on Adversity2:35 - Nathan's Near-Death Experience at Age 165:13 - Near-Death Experience Reshaping Views on Wealth8:07 - Living with Heaven's Perspective on Earth9:24 - The Premise of Old Wealth, New Wealth, True Wealth12:25 - True Wealth as a Graduate Course Beyond Money13:52 - Asset Classes and Cash-Flowing Real Estate16:25 - Boring Investments and Consistent Cash Flow20:28 - Common Mistakes New Investors Make23:25 - Prefab Homes, Land Development, and Innovative Strategies26:20 - True Wealth Community and Mentorship31:10 - Closing Takeaways CONNECT WITH THE GUESTWebsite: https://nathanbarkocy.com/Instagram: @nathanbarkocy#TrueWealth#NearDeathExperience#RealEstateInvesting#FinancialLiteracy#MultipleStreamsOfIncome#FaithAndFinance#MindsetShift
Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) — Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3634: Kalen Bruce challenges the belief that college is the only path to success, arguing that trade schools can offer fulfilling, financially rewarding careers without the same cost or time commitment. He encourages parents to have intentional conversations with their children and support the path that best matches their interests, talents, and purpose. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://freedomsprout.com/trade-schools/ Quotes to ponder: "College doesn't always guarantee success, and frankly, college simply isn't for everyone." "We want our kids to be happy and to do what they were meant to do." "As long as their decision is intentional, we will let them determine their own path." Episode references: Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor-Teach-Middle/dp/1612681131 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of the Grow A Small Business Podcast host Troy Trewin interviews Adiel Gorel, Founder of International Capital Group, shares how he went from being a Hewlett-Packard engineer to building a 42-year real estate investment business that has helped investors purchase more than 10,000 homes. He explains why long-term thinking, fixed-rate mortgages, and staying calm during market downturns create lasting wealth. Adiel also discusses scaling a business, leading through economic cycles, building the right mindset, and avoiding panic when recessions hit. His journey offers practical lessons on entrepreneurship, resilience, and financial freedom through disciplined investing. Check out Adiel Gorel's book, Remote Control Retirement Riches: How to Change Your Future with Rental Homes. In this practical guide, he shares the proven strategies that have helped investors build long-term wealth through rental properties. Whether you're a first-time investor or looking to grow your portfolio, the book offers actionable insights on creating financial freedom through smart real estate investing. Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here. Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress point during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice. And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions: What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that the hardest part of growing a small business is living with uncertainty and accepting that the responsibility ultimately rests on the owner. Unlike a traditional job, there is no guaranteed paycheck, and every decision affects both the business and the employees who rely on it. He emphasizes that entrepreneurs must stay resilient, take ownership, and remain prepared for both opportunities and setbacks. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? Adiel Gorel shares that one of the business books he highly recommends is his own, Remote Control Retirement Riches, which reflects decades of real estate investing experience. He also praises Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki for its powerful lessons on wealth creation and financial mindset, noting that its principles have inspired countless aspiring investors and entrepreneurs. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that while he doesn't regularly follow business podcasts, he spends much of his learning time exploring health and wellness content. He believes maintaining good health gives entrepreneurs the energy, focus, and mental clarity needed to build and grow a successful business over the long term. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that every business needs a balance between simplicity and effective systems. He recommends using reliable accounting software like QuickBooks to stay organized, manage finances efficiently, and gain a clear understanding of the business's financial health as it grows. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? Adiel Gorel shares that he would remind his younger self that business moves in cycles, with both booms and downturns. He advises entrepreneurs not to become overconfident during good times or panic during recessions, emphasizing that patience, preparation, and staying the course are often the keys to long-term success. Book a 20-minute Growth Chat with Troy Trewin to see if you qualify for our upcoming course. Don't miss out on this opportunity to take your small business to new heights! Enjoyed the podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes or your preferred platform. Your feedback helps more small business owners discover our podcast and embark on their business growth journey. Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: You are not a cog in the machine you are the machine - Adiel Gorel Success comes from staying focused while time and patience do the heavy lifting - Adiel Gorel The biggest mistakes in business happen when fear replaces long term thinking - Adiel Gorel
Get the 200+ Page Optimal Living Daily Workbook (PDF) — Free. Want to turn today's episode into an actionable plan? Join the Optimal Living Weekly newsletter and I'll send you our 200-page digital workbook immediately. It's packed with the best takeaways from the show, formatted for easy reading and implementation at home. Get your free PDF workbook here: https://oldpodcast.eo.page/join Discover all of the podcasts in our network, search for specific episodes and learn more at: OLDPodcast.com. Episode 3634: Kalen Bruce challenges the belief that college is the only path to success, arguing that trade schools can offer fulfilling, financially rewarding careers without the same cost or time commitment. He encourages parents to have intentional conversations with their children and support the path that best matches their interests, talents, and purpose. Read along with the original article(s) here: https://freedomsprout.com/trade-schools/ Quotes to ponder: "College doesn't always guarantee success, and frankly, college simply isn't for everyone." "We want our kids to be happy and to do what they were meant to do." "As long as their decision is intentional, we will let them determine their own path." Episode references: Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor-Teach-Middle/dp/1612681131 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In today's episode, I'm joined by bestselling author, financial educator, and Rich Dad Poor Dad co-author Sharon Lechter to talk about the mindset behind lasting success. We break down her Personal Success Equation, combining passion, talent, association, action, and faith to create meaningful results. Sharon explains why mentorship shortens the learning curve, how fear can become fuel, and why the greatest wealth transfer in history demands better financial education. We also discuss building income-producing assets, protecting your environment, investing your time wisely, and staying anchored to your purpose even when circumstances force your strategy to change.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
David Richter of Simple CFO breaks down one of the most practical questions real estate investors avoid: how to actually pay yourself first instead of paying everyone else and their mother. Drawing on the Profit First formula, he walks through the exact system for setting owner's pay when your income is unpredictable.This solo episode swaps the broken "sales minus expenses equals profit" model for the wealth formula and shows you how to build an owner's comp account that pays you consistently. If you're a real estate investor closing deals but feeling guilty about taking money out and wondering where all the cash went, this one is for you.Timeline Summary[0:26] – David opens with the hard truth that your business might be paying everyone except the person who built it[0:47] – Why the standard "sales minus expenses equals profit" formula keeps owners stuck in a rat race[1:40] – Waking up a decade into your business asking where all the money went[2:03] – The Profit First wealth formula flipped: sales minus profit equals expenses[2:23] – Why so many owners feel guilty taking money out of their own business[2:40] – Breaking down the three required components: sales, profit, and expenses in the right order[3:17] – The pay-yourself-first principle from Rich Dad Poor Dad and Robert Kiyosaki[3:36] – Lessons from The Richest Man in Babylon and The 7 Habits on putting first things first[3:57] – What margin actually means and why it's your financial safety buffer[4:32] – The simplest first step: open a separate owner's comp bank account today[5:02] – A real example of splitting $10,000 in income into consistent owner's pay[5:21] – Why the "black hole" single bank account keeps you from ever getting paid[6:15] – Building personal stability so the entrepreneurial roller coaster doesn't shake you[6:40] – Why an owner's comp account matters most when a spouse or family depends on you[7:05] – Finding your two key numbers: what you need and what you want[9:11] – Advice for W2 earners: build 6 to 12 months of reserves before making the jump5 Key TakeawaysFlip The Broken Formula — Stop using sales minus expenses equals profit. The wealth formula is sales minus profit equals expenses, so you pay yourself before you fund everything else.Open An Owner's Comp Account — Create a dedicated business checking account and route a set portion of every deal into it. This single move turns "pay yourself first" from a slogan into a habit.Know Your Need And Want Numbers — Pin down what you need monthly to cover your lifestyle, then what you want to fund your dreams. These two numbers give your owner's pay a target.Kill The Guilt Around Getting Paid — A dedicated account removes the guilt of pulling money out because it's earmarked for you. You built the business, and you deserve to be paid from it.Build Reserves Before You Leap — If you're still working a W2, stack 6 to 12 months of owner's comp reserves before quitting. Full-time investors should hold 3 to 6 months to weather the ups and downs.Links & Resources• Simple CFO — https://simplecfo.com Enjoyed This Episode?If David's owner's comp account idea got you rethinking how you pay yourself, don't keep it to yourself. Share this episode with a fellow investor who's paying everyone but themselves, and if it gave you a new perspective, follow the show and leave a rating and review so more real estate investors can build real financial clarity.
Everybody keeps saying the same thing: young people can't afford to buy homes anymore. Justice Bigot isn't ignoring today's market, but he also isn't buying into the idea that homeownership is out of reach. At just 26 years old, he's helping clients navigate a challenging market by focusing on honesty, relationships, and practical advice instead of hype. If you've been wondering whether homeownership is still possible or whether the next generation of real estate professionals is ready to lead, this episode is worth your time. Key takeaways to listen for Why saying "I don't know" can actually make clients trust you more How AI can support great REALTORS® without replacing them Why consistency matters more than years of experience What first-time buyers need to hear in today's market Justice's "Like. Value. Trust." philosophy for building a lasting business Resources mentioned in this episode Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert T. Kiyosaki Like, Value, Trust by Justice Bigot About Justice Bigot Justice Bigot is a REALTOR® serving the Central Florida area, where he helps buyers and sellers navigate the real estate process with honesty, clear communication, and a relationship-first approach. Passionate about making homeownership more attainable, Justice embraces new technology while believing that trust and genuine human connection will always be at the heart of great service. Connect with Justice Instagram: @justice.big TikTok: @justbigrealty YouTube: Just Real Estate X: @JusticeBigotRE Email: justice.bigot@cbrealty.com Contact Number: (407) 676-9431 About Leigh Brown Leigh Brown is a keynote speaker and leadership expert who helps organizations navigate growth, conflict, and change with clarity and courage. Her message resonates with leaders facing real-world pressure—whether that's housing challenges, organizational friction, or cultural shifts. Her latest book, Next Is Now, equips leaders to stop reacting and start leading with intention.
In this episode of the Pulse Podcast, co-founders Miguel and Rudy of Acquired share their rapid growth in the California real estate market, tracking toward $300 million in sales volume and over 6 million in assignments for 2024. They discuss the transition from solo entrepreneurs to building a systematic real estate ecosystem that includes wholesaling, flipping, escrow, and staging.
About Jimmy VreelandJimmy graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point, spent 5 years as an Army Ranger, and deployed three times twice to Iraq and once to Afghanistan. On his last deployment, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki which led him down the path of real estate investing. As his own portfolio grew, eventually he started a real estate investing business. Since 2018 his team at Vreeland Capital has supplied over 100 houses a year to high performing, passive investors who want to work with his team and his team is now managing over 800 houses.Get in touch with Jimmy and his team at www.jimmyvreeland.com/getstartedinrealestateMore about JimmyWebsite: www.jimmyvreeland.comLinkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-vreelandInstagram: www.instagram.com/jimmyvreelandFacebook: www.facebook.com/JimmyVreelandYoutube: www.youtube.com/@JimmyVreelandC>>>>>>Get free access to the private Ranger Real Estate facebook group
In this episode of the CEO Pulse Podcast, real estate investing veteran David Olds shares his journey from reading "Rich Dad Poor Dad" in an airport to building the nation's largest transaction coordination company. With over 24 years of experience and 9,000+ transactions managed, David provides a raw look at the grit required to scale a service-based business and the critical importance of mastering the "paperwork side" of real estate to ensure deals actually cross the finish line.
David Andrew Wiebe is an award-winning composer, bestselling author, and music marketing strategist dedicated to helping independent artists build sustainable careers. As the founder of Content Marketing Musician, he teaches musicians how to combine creativity with proven business systems that generate consistent growth. David has authored more than 13 books on music, creativity, and entrepreneurship, composed the acclaimed work The Nobody Prayer, and hosts a popular podcast where he shares practical insights on marketing, monetization, and personal development for today's independent artists navigating an ever-changing music industry.In this episode, you'll learn what it actually takes to build a profitable, sustainable music career without relying on luck or chasing every trend.Key TakeawaysHow to build multiple income streams that create long-term financial stability instead of depending solely on streaming revenue or gigs.The mindset shifts and decision-making frameworks that help successful independent artists grow faster and avoid common career mistakes.How to systemize your music business so you can spend less time feeling overwhelmed and more time creating meaningful work.---→ Learn more about David Andrew Wiebe and his work at: https://davidandrewwiebe.com/.Book an Artist Breakthrough Session with the Modern Musician team: https://apply.modernmusician.me/podcast
Britton Eads was making $15 per hour putting up fences all day. He had no college degree; he dropped out of the electrician trade and didn't have many other options. One day, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad, and realized his life didn't need to stay on the same track it was going. Now, just four years later, he's got over 15 rental units, his rental income replaced his fence job, he's sitting on $200,000 in equity across his portfolio, and he couldn't be happier. It only happened because he took action instead of second-guessing himself. Britton's story is one of the wildest we've heard. Everything from burst pipes to ceiling holes, very low appraisals, and funding mishaps. But it didn't stop Britton from pushing forward and creating the wealth he knew was possible. He just had to learn from his mistakes. If you feel like you're stuck, wanting to get into real estate investing, but thinking you don't have the cash, the income, or the experience, there is no better guest than Britton to prove you can start—you just need to start. In This Episode We Cover How Britton funded his first real estate deal when he had (almost) no money The big mistakes Britton made on his first real estate deal (that you should not repeat) Using equity from one rental property to fund the purchase of another Buying a fourplex with just 3.5% down using a loan most investors overlook When paying for a mentor (or community) is actually worth the investment The best beginner advice from Britton to get you in the game and stay out of trouble And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1294. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode, Lane Kawaoka joins us to discuss his book, The Wealth Elevator: Real Estate Syndications, Accredited Investor Banking, and Tax Strategies for First-Gen Millionaires. As a seasoned real estate investor, Lane has built a portfolio valued at more than $2.1 billion and has helped hundreds of investors access alternative wealth-building strategies through real estate syndications. Lane is the founder of The Wealth Elevator and the Hui Deal Pipeline Club. Since 2016, he has syndicated more than $205 million in private equity and facilitated over $45 million in distributions to investors. Through his work, he helps working professionals create passive income streams and pursue financial freedom through strategic investing, tax optimization, and alternative asset ownership. This conversation covers: How Lane got started in the business industry. The mindset shifts required to build long-term wealth. Why syndications can provide opportunities beyond traditional investing. Common mistakes new investors make when evaluating deals. Interested in learning how real estate syndications, tax planning, and alternative investments can help accelerate your path to financial independence? Tune in to hear Lane share the lessons, strategies, and experiences that have shaped his approach to building long-term wealth. Connect with Lane: LinkedIn Instagram The Wealth Elevator Website Free Masterclass
The real estate investing moves you make today could change your life. Those in their 40s, 50s, and 60s often look back and regret not starting sooner. Today's guest isn't letting that happen, and in this episode, she'll show YOU how to take advantage when that next rental property comes your way! Welcome back to the Real Estate Rookie podcast! When Megan Chou's father challenged her to read the personal finance classic, Rich Dad Poor Dad, little did she know it would completely alter her life's trajectory. The book's lessons on building wealth inspired her to stash her money away in a brokerage account and, at just 20 years old, buy her very own rental property—a townhome she house hacked with her best friend. Then, only two years later, right as she was graduating from college, she took down a fourplex—renovating each unit while living in it, one by one. Stay tuned as Megan shares how she leveraged her home equity to buy it, what went wrong after buying the property, and how she stayed resilient when her property started fighting back! In This Episode We Cover How Megan bought her first two rental properties (while still in college!) How to fund your next investment property using your existing home equity What Zillow, Redfin, and the MLS can't tell you about properties or neighborhoods Bouncing back from ice, raccoons, and plumbing failure on the same property Two crucial things to do when experiencing a setback with your property And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/rookie-728. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email advertise@biggerpockets.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What if the blueprint for building wealth hasn't changed in over 5,000 years? In this episode, Gino Barbaro breaks down the timeless principles from one of the most influential personal finance books ever written: The Richest Man in Babylon. While most people believe wealth creation is complicated, involving stock picking, market timing, economic cycles, and advanced investing strategies, the truth is much simpler. The foundation of wealth starts with habits. In this episode, Gino walks through the famous "Seven Cures for a Lean Purse" and explains how they apply to modern investing, entrepreneurship, real estate, financial planning, retirement, and creating long-term generational wealth. Whether you're just beginning your financial journey or looking to strengthen your wealth-building foundation, this episode provides timeless principles that still work today. Timestamps 00:00 – The Wealth Blueprint That Has Worked for 5,000 Years 01:28 – The First Cure: Pay Yourself First 05:54 – The Second Cure: Control Your Spending 07:40 – The Third Cure: Make Your Money Multiply 10:33 – The Fourth Cure: Protect Your Wealth 12:23 – The Fifth Cure: Make Your Home a Profitable Investment 16:06 – The Sixth Cure: Ensure Future Income 17:40 – The Seventh Cure: Increase Your Ability to Earn 19:17 – Practical Wealth-Building Exercises 20:00 – Create a Budget and Track Your Spending 22:30 – Finding the Right Investment Vehicle 24:12 – Avoiding Lifestyle Inflation 26:10 – Open Your First Investment Account 28:00 – Why Financial Education Matters 29:05 – The Importance of Tracking Net Worth 30:05 – Final Thoughts on The Richest Man in Babylon This episode is brought to you by Wheelbarrow Profits. Want to learn how successful investors create passive income, build financial freedom, and scale their wealth through multifamily real estate? Visit Wheelbarrow Profits to access educational resources, training, coaching, and tools designed to help investors take control of their financial future. We're here to help create real estate entrepreneurs... About Jake & Gino: Jake & Gino are multifamily investors, operators, and owners who have created a vertically integrated real estate company. They control over $350M in assets under management. Connect with Jake & Gino here --> https://jakeandgino.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Keith welcomes back Rich Dad author Robert Kiyosaki to discuss why debt, inflation, and financial education are critical in today's economy. Robert challenges traditional advice like "save money and pay off your house," explaining how understanding good debt and owning real assets can accelerate wealth while inflation quietly punishes savers. They explore how family background and early beliefs shape our money mindset, and why questioning conventional wisdom is essential. The conversation ultimately stresses that financial education only matters if you take action and intentionally position yourself for turbulent times instead of fearing them. 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And with Father's Day this month, it's apropos to talk about Rich Dad. It's been said that the objective of parenting is to turn a liability into an asset. The book Rich Dad Poor Dad has now sold over 40 million copies, and it's been translated into 51 languages. One strong thesis in the book: well, there are a few of them: the rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I think any regular listener here to the GRE podcast is already initiated on this. Savers or losers, because inflation debases your prosperity, and your house is not an asset, because it takes money out of your pocket every month. An asset puts money in your pocket every month instead. And I can see Robert now as he's preparing to take the mic with me here, he's got a blown up visual of his cash flow board game behind him, and then in front of him he's got a few books, including two books that he co-authored with Donald Trump, but this is before Trump was ever a political candidate, so it was before all that, and we're certainly not here to talk politics today. A central theme of the Rich Dad world is that the path for your significant financial betterment is rather than cutting your expenses, increase your income. This is the root action behind the mantra: don't live below your means, grow your means, but see, living below your means is easier. That's the easy thing to do. It's even myopic, say move into a lesser housing situation, or cut out going on vacations. Growing your means takes some education, like how to start a business, or how to own real estate. See, when you deposit money into a bank, all of a sudden that bank has a problem, they owe you interest on it, it's an expense for them. So the bank's job is now to lend your money out to somebody else and make a higher interest rate on it than. Lower interest rate that they're paying you on your deposit. All right. Well, then one direction to focus your education is to start acting like a bank yourself. How do you practically do that? How do you be the bank? Well, just like the bank, you can borrow real estate at a 7% mortgage rate. Now you've got the problem, you've got a monthly mortgage payment you need to make, so you need to beat 7% How are you going to do that? You better get it right. Well, with tax deductions, you might really be paying five to 6% Meanwhile, the real estate that you've carefully identified and invested in with your borrowed capital can earn multiples more without taking high risk, and actually that five to 6% effective cost of capital that you've got is zero, because that monthly payment is all outsourced to your tenants anyway, and what made all this possible for you? Debt made it possible, and now you're acting like the bank, and banks often have the tallest skyscrapers in your city for a reason, because they make money on those spreads all over the place, and now you're doing the same thing. This is an example of growing your means. The bank will hand you 500k to buy a new home or rental property, not for stocks. They won't do that for crypto, not for your 401k not for a business idea that popped into your head at 3am Only real estate, the same institutions, banks that manage your savings and study every asset class, and are very conservative, and have armies and armies of analysts. They will only lend you a half million dollars for one thing: real estate. For a few years, I was a writer for the Rich Dad Advisors blog when that was a thing. Robert and I were most recently together publicly last year when we both served as faculty members on the Terrific Real Estate Guys Investor Summit at Sea in the Caribbean. Let's talk to Robert. Keith Weinhold 7:18 I'd like to welcome back to the show for his fifth appearance here on the GRE podcast. Well, just the number one selling personal finance author of all time. He wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad in 1997 and has ruled the Rich Dad world ever since. It's a warm get worse education. Welcome back to Robert Kiyosaki. Robert Kiyosaki 7:38 Thank you, Keith. You know, nobody's more surprised about the success of Rich Dad Poor Dad than me, because it was turned down by every publisher in New York. It was like Simon and Schuster and all these guys, and they said, Why are you turning it down? They said, You don't know what you're talking about. It was consensus about the five editors of different book companies was what you're saying doesn't make sense, that's how strange it was back 1997 and now it's the number one in the world. Keith Weinhold 8:10 This is often how it is when something strikes someone differently, like the Star Wars movies had difficulty getting traction because it was so unusual, and fortunately, Robert, today the consensus among readers has seen that, oh my gosh, Rich Dad Poor Dad changed my thinking more than anything else. The contrarian thinker, Robert Kiyosaki 8:34 you know, strike Rich Dad, Poor Dad. My poor dad was academic, you know, PhD, yeah. So he'd be the kind of guy that says your book makes no sense, whereas my rich dad never went to school because his father died when he was 13 and he had to take over the family business. So much of a young person's life is predicated upon their parents or where the family or the culture you come from, and I've been studying more of that, like let's say I was raised in Alabama, I'd have a southern accent but because of the environment it presents it upon you, as the same as money, if a child is born into a poor family, or in my case an academic family, the value systems are all different. My family, and it's still true today. Got to go to school, get a job, and get a pension with the government. That's their whole belief system, and they're so proud of this. Is my brothers and uncles, and all that. They're so proud when their child has what's called a GS, and a government service pension, that's the whole idea on finance, get that pension, job security, Keith Weinhold 9:49 yeah, Speaker 1 9:49 nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with it, but a lot of times we can't hear something because of what's been compressed into us by our culture, our. Family, so my, you know, my poor dad was always, you have to get your PhD, or what? God got a PhD. So my brothers and sisters, their kids are all getting their PhDs. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. Keith Weinhold 10:14 Yeah, when your poor dad tells you you need to get your PhD, and you're asking for what? Maybe the answer was for him. So our parents, yes, they're often our first teachers. Speaker 2 10:25 It's just values, very different values. And the more I kind of study it, I don't think I'm a good student of it, but there's this thing called a paradigm matrix, and a paradigm matrix is what is like a cookie cutter, so like father, like son, you know, like mother, like daughter, so much of our lives are transferred by our parents and our schools and things like this, and so that's why Rich Dad Poor Dad, for some people it works, but when it first came out, 1997 as you said, it was strange. I said, you know, the savers were losers, and today everybody knows inflation is going to the roof. I said, your house is not an asset. I got hammered for that one. Keith Weinhold 11:11 Right. Speaker 1 11:11 Rich don't work for money. Those are my three rich dad rules. Rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I built Rich Dad Poor Dad around those three rules. I didn't follow my poor dad, those were his guiding lights. You know, you have to have job security, and you have to have a government pension, and my house is my biggest asset. And so you can't hear the person because you already have that paradigm magic, or that cookie cutter inside of you. This is my value system in my family. If I didn't get my PhD, I was stupid. I never got one. But anyway, you know, Keith Weinhold 11:50 just because you believe something for a long time doesn't make it true, Speaker 1 11:55 correct? And what's happening? Because I wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, because I could see this economic times coming, 1971 named Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, and I knew at that time we're going to have hyperinflation, so that it hasn't hit us quite yet. 1971 was august 15. Nixon's taking the dollar off the gold standard, and you watch what's going to happen next few years. We're going to have hyperinflation that we've never seen before, and it's gonna make the poor and middle class poorer. The rich will get richer, but poor and middle class will get poorer. Tragically, Keith Weinhold 12:30 that is such an appropriate time to bring this up, Robert, because a lot of people are drawing parallels between the 1970s two waves of inflation during that decade, and what's going on today. I mean, there is so much fuel now that could ignite higher inflation. You've got the cumulative effects of the Iran war and the energy shocks and bottled up supply chains. And Robert, I don't know if you've heard it yet, but you and I's mutual friend, Dr. Chris Martinson, yeah, peak prosperity, there, Chris Martinson, he recently said that he would not be surprised to see 18 to 20% annual inflation in the next two to three years. That's exactly what he said. Speaker 2 13:12 Yeah, but it's good for those who have assets, right? You see what, when things inflate, you know, like chickens and eggs and milk go up, but so do assets go up, most of them, like gold and silver, will go up, but the purchasing of the dollar will come down. Inflation is a tax, that's all it is. Keith Weinhold 13:33 So much potential for inflation there, and a lot of this really ties in with debt, about how debtors can be enriched inflation. I think about the cantillion effect, meaning that in inflationary times those closest to the money printer win, and that usually tends to be governments, large banks, corporations with easy credit scores, but a lot of people don't realize that we can benefit from that too is everyday investors that use leverage prudent debt, Speaker 1 14:05 right, and tell you, in effect, is basically what interest rate can you get, and how easy is money for you, and I use debt, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt, and that scares the crap out of most people, but I use debt to get rich, and most people use debt to get poor, and again, that's family, what your education says. So, a lot has to do with early childhood development, and all that stuff. The more I study it, it really goes back to before a child was like 15. The cookie cutter has been cut. Keith Weinhold 14:36 Yes, it goes back to not always having to believe everything that you think. Speaker 2 14:40 We all have access to education. I have my cash flow game here. I teach people how to use debt, and Dave Ramsey says don't use debt. Well, he's a smart man too, Dave. I like him a lot, and most people should listen to Dave Ramsey, but if you're going to use debt, you'd better take some education, so. To go 1,000,000,002 in debt, man, you better know something. People aren't living paycheck to paycheck, they're living credit card to credit card now, and getting wiped out. I hate to laugh, but it's so obvious. You go, because they have no financial education, and that's why my book was turned down by all those academics in New York City, the publishers say, you don't know what you're talking about. How can I say your house is not an asset? How can I say savers are losers? How can I say the rich don't work for money? And that's what Don't Rich Dad Poor Dad on. And now it's been an international best seller, number one in the world for like 25 years. Keith Weinhold 15:39 Yeah, well, it's so interesting that you bring up Dave Ramsey here, Robert. He often gets his followers to make a debt-free scream when they're debt free, and you know what I think, Robert, for those that scream that they're debt free, what they're doing is they're postponing screaming that they're job free or job optional, they could have been prudently leveraging dollars for profit, instead, like you and I do. Speaker 2 16:06 Well, let me just say, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for most people. I'm saying, if you're going to learn to use debt, you know, if all you want is a job and a pension, you don't have to study that much. The biggest mistake I think ever made was at 401 k. It's going to wipe out boomer generation. It's going to.. that's the memos. I wrote this book. Here's who stole my pension, and that's when it's going to nail the boomers. They're finished, because their pensions are going to get stolen. They're four 1k IRAs. They're finished, but they do.. they listen. No, they go, they send their kids to school to get their MBA and get a, get a 401 k. Keith Weinhold 16:46 Well, I kind of think when you have education around debt, you sort of understand this difference between productive debt and what I'll call ego debt. So, can you talk to us more about what kinds of debt make people rich today and what kinds of debt can quietly destroy them. Speaker 2 17:02 Well, they should read Rich Dad Poor Dad. Really, I'm serious. That's all it is about, really, is I use debt to get rich, and Dave Ramsey's advice is good for those who don't want to study. So, if you're a PhD in microbiology, and you're a doctor, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for you, because you have no financial education, it's not between your right ear and your left ear. So, I had to study debt, that's the difference. It's what we study. Keith Weinhold 17:29 And for those that are uninitiated on this, what we're talking about here is, if you've got, say, 200k to invest in real estate, and real estate's going to go up 5% a year. Okay, if you pay all cash, you only have a 5% gain on your 200k but if you get an 800k loan and now you invest in a million dollars worth of real estate, you have that entire million dollars going up 5% not just 200k and you have the tenants servicing the 800k in debt for you. This is really the path to wealth through debt, which is counterintuitive. Speaker 1 18:02 You don't just get into debt. I mean, you really got to understand debt, and real estate doesn't always go up. It's about to crash again, and I like crashes. Don't get me wrong, I love crashes, because a crash in a stock market, bond market, real estate market is something going on sale, so like if Walmart had a sale, every poor person would run in there, but when the real estate market has a sale, all the poor people run away. I like crashes, that's when you get rich, one's coming big time, big time. Keith Weinhold 18:33 Well, I want to learn more about that, because residential real estate in our lifetimes has only fallen significantly one time, that was in 2008 and circumstances are so different today. Today, you have responsible lending, and you don't have this oversupply that you had in 2008 So, tell us more about a potential real estate crash that's going to interest a lot of people. Speaker 1 18:53 Well, real estate crashes, because the currency crashes. It's really the problem with the world today, and this is the whole world, is America is now what, the biggest debtor nation in world history. Keith Weinhold 19:05 Yeah, Speaker 1 19:05 39 trillion or something like that. And Japan is a bunch of idiots on Japanese, I can say that they save money. Why would you save money when Japan was the biggest money printer of all times? That'd be like somebody you know, sticking water in your gas tank. Why would you go and fill up with water? But that's what the Japanese were doing. They're saving money. It makes no sense. I mean, I just.. I'm just a different person, you know. I just didn't go to school like my family did. I mean, I have a college education and all that, but I studied different things after school. I studied debt, I studied real estate, and that's the big difference. So, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt. So, in 2008 when the market crashed, you know, I borrowed 30 million bucks and leveled it up with 1,000,000,002 in debt. Keith Weinhold 19:52 Good timing Speaker 1 19:53 should not do what I do, but I studied it since 1974 It's debt that's not. Right now today we have oil going up. My college degree is in oil. I'm an oil tanker driver. I drove oil tankers with Standard Oil. I'm making fortunes today as the price of oil goes up, so you know, more Netanyahu and Trump bomb Iran, terrible as it is. I'm getting richer, so you don't have to be poor, but you're poor because that gap between your left ear and your right ear is empty, you know. You've been taught inflation's bad. Well, inflation is good if you're holding oil or gold or silver or some real estate. Anyway, most people have no financial education. That's why I created the cash flow board game, so you can have fun learning how to be rich. If you don't want to learn to be rich, then go to school and get your PhD. Keith Weinhold 20:47 Sometimes, when people don't understand how real estate debt benefits them, one way I've helped people understand Robert is that, say, you have a loan balance of 112k on a piece of real estate today, that feels really small. It almost feels like something that you can pay off with what you have in your savings account, but if you go back 30 years, when the median home price is 140k 80% debt on that would have been 112k So here, 30 years later, with your 30 year fixed rate loan, you still just have that 112k in debt, while the median home price is over 400k and that's even if you hadn't made a principal payment at all, so it's really a way to visualize how inflation starts shrinking the real weight of our debt over time. Speaker 1 21:31 My advice is I would study debt, so I take real estate courses, I'm always studying, I'm studying constantly, because the markets are changing so quickly. The biggest problem today started in 1971 when Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. So, we're the biggest detonation in world history. I think we're going into a depression right now. So, depression plus AI coming along is going to wipe out jobs. I'm going to get richer. What are you going to do? So, I'm already planning for the future, the people that get rich can see the future. So, when you say, well, you know, back in 2008 it only crashed for a little while. Then, okay, so what? And history has proven in 1971 Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. Every nation has collapsed. Who did that? The Chinese did it, the Romans did it, the Greeks did it, Germans did it. They print money, and so that's the real issue. It's not debt, but it's also the economic macro problems that keep going into the world. The dollar is coming down, and I'm afraid that we're going into a global depression. I hope I'm wrong, like Grant Cardone, and I have fights all the time about it, you know, because he's a big proponent of that. Real estate always goes up, it doesn't always go up, Keith Weinhold 22:47 right? Speaker 1 22:47 It doesn't always go up. The stock market doesn't always go up. The bond market's crashing. Everybody says, "Oh, bonds are safe. The bond market's in the biggest bubble in world history. We're going into a depression. So, what are you going to do about it? I'm afraid America is going to crash because we've taken on Iran, and Iran's a powerful, powerful force out there. I'm not in favor of it, but everybody who's messed with Iran has got kicked. So just note that as this look at history, you can see the future, but you have to be careful in the issue you follow. So, 1971 I was on an aircraft carrier in Vietnam, and my rich dad wrote me a letter. I was a marine helicopter pilot, went down three times. Rich Dad wrote me lessons. Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, watch out, and immediately I started buying gold. So, I started buying gold at $50 an ounce to today is what, four or 5000 Keith Weinhold 23:43 Yeah, Speaker 1 23:44 the trouble with gold is you pay high taxes on it, constant taxes too. Good luck to learn, Keith. I study constantly. Keith Weinhold 23:52 You're listening to Get Rich Education. 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You know why he wants you to get rich, and it's this one man, one message. Keith Weinhold 26:06 Robert's holding up a book now. Speaker 1 26:08 You've got to get educated on money, but most people won't, so they got a 401 k, and they live debt free. Good advice. Will it protect them? No, it won't protect them from a, you know, if you lose your job, AI takes it away, or is a massive crash, but we've never been in this much debt before to you. Black generation is screwed, boomers and boomers are screwed, because we're the first generation with a four 1k that was 1974 1974 also Kissinger went to Saudi Arabia to sign the dollar up back by oil, and today my buddy here, Trump is bombing the crap out of Iran. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but the price of oil is going through the roof now. Everybody's complaining about it because of inflation, so chicken and eggs go up in price, you know. Diesel delivers chicken and eggs all over the world. I'm getting richer because I own oil wells, you see. You don't have to be poor, but you better question what they put between your left ear and your right ear. What did Mommy and Daddy tell you? Go to school, get a job, get a job with a government service. My daughter's a GS, she's got a master's from Washington State University losers, Keith Weinhold 27:24 this untethering of the dollar from gold in 1971 that meant that there is no sovereign currency in the world today that's still tied to gold, allowing for more money printing and enriching over time debtors like you and I, but Robert, we think about how debtors are profiting, and you spoke earlier about how oftentimes your parents put all of these values inside you. How do you emotionally tolerate having a lot of debt yourself? You talked about having $1.2 billion in debt. How do you emotionally deal with that? Speaker 1 28:00 I study, I take courses. I'm constantly in seminars studying debt. I don't study a 401 ks or bonds, that's for losers. But this is the biggest point, Keith. You got to find out. My rich had always said to me, says there's a billion ways to financial heaven. So, there's what, 8 billion people on planet earth, and 1 billion of the eight may make it to financial heaven, but there's 7 billion to financial hell, and the difference is what's between your left ear and your right ear, and that's why you may choose what you learn carefully, cash flow game, study it, have fun, practice, play, learn, but if you don't want to learn, then follow Dave Ramsey's advice. That's much better. It's better for you, really. I'm serious. And get your PhD and get a 401 k and get wiped out when you lose your job. It's up to you. Keith Weinhold 28:54 Yeah, I mean, the debt-free mindset probably is better for most people, but I think you shouldn't aspire to want to be like most people. Most people are overweight, and they have a busted relationship, and they don't have enough money at the end of the month. So we're really not aspiring to be mediocre here, and that can mean taking on prudent debt. You wrote something in a book one time, I don't think it was Rich Dad Poor Dad, it was one of your later books. This is so simple, but I found it to be so profound and life-changing for me. And that is simply being wealthy is a choice Speaker 1 29:28 that doesn't, what you want, it's your choice, but you better know what your choices are. What did Mommy and Daddy say to you? But also, were they doing in front of you? Keith Weinhold 29:39 Right, Speaker 1 29:40 were they cleaning for job security or were they buying coil wells? Like, I own Bitcoin, but they'll recommend it now. I study it. I don't really understand it that well. I have 5049 Bitcoin, not much, but as inflation goes up, my Bitcoin goes up. Also, have in theory. I'm old. I don't understand tech that well, but I buy it to learn it, to practice, to study it. Am I an expert at Bitcoin? No. So I just keep studying, that's all I'm saying. I have a choice how to put between this year and that year. That's your choice today. Keith Weinhold 30:18 Well, that's really interesting, Robert, because some people say that you should only invest in something that you understand well, others say that you're only going to understand something well if you invest a little in it first and have a stake. Well, is there any last thought that you have, Robert, as we wind up, anything at all that a listener should know today? Speaker 1 30:39 No, I mean, I just said it, that's it. Choose what you put between your left brain and right ear, and what do you do? What do you do in your spare time? Like studying, you can ask the people around me. I'm constantly studying, you know, because I like to win. I'm very concerned, Keith. We're going into the biggest depression in history. So, what happens when you lose your job and you can't put food on the table, that's gonna create another problem. So, I'm a big pessimist, but I'm ready for it. I have a lot of guns, so the, I call it the 5g's Okay, you have to have gold, food, I mean ground, gasoline, and guns, that's preparing for the future, the 5g will be gold, gas, ground, food, guns. Keith Weinhold 31:27 Well, Robert, you gave us a lot to think about there, including some actionable things. It's been great having you back on the show. Speaker 1 31:32 Okay. Well, thank you. Keep up the good work. Keith Weinhold 31:40 I believe Robert feels that a calming economic depression would be linked to the longer term calamity about the dollar being de-pegged from gold for about 55 years now. His 1.2 billion in debt is largely, if not completely, good debt. You can learn more about Robert and the Rich Dad world@richdad.com and he and I talked more off air. As much as he stresses financial education, he emphasizes taking action after you've learned; otherwise, you really haven't gained much of anything. But the rat race is so busy that some people don't have time to care about this stuff. In fact, the difference between financial education and financial courage is action taking. That's the difference. Now, in my view, it seems that some feel like financial betterment means cutting your expenses so much that you reduce your standard of living even over the long term, and doing that for the long term, you might do some of that in the short term, earlier in your investing career, because you need some capital formation, but to me, before long, financial betterment should give you the ability to make your life better. I mean, really don't buy the boat or RV just because it's a depreciating asset. Well, you don't want to do that wastefully if you can't afford it, but if you can learn how to afford it, consider borrowing for it, investing it at a higher interest rate than the RV loan, and profiting while you enjoy the RV, some people don't even think something like that is possible. Well, that's the sort of thing financial education can do. Genuine financial betterment means that you can take the trip, it means that you can buy the boat, because what's worse, owning a depreciating asset or living a depreciating life. Big thanks to Robert Kiyosaki. Keith Weinhold 33:47 Today, we've got a lot of great upcoming shows here on the Get Rich Education podcast. Next week, The Mad Scientist of Multifamily, Neil Bower, will be here. It's going to be a charged conversation on the state and the future of the residential real estate market. Also, I've been compiling my top 12 dirty dozen due diligence questions that are going to help you avoid mistakes when you buy a piece of income property, like for example, How do you be sure that a build to rent community isn't overbuilt with supply, and why you should always get a property inspection, even on a new construction property that's coming in future weeks, and if you're a new listener and still learning about how to prudently use debt to build wealth, you're in luck. Just eight weeks ago, on episode 600 it's an episode where it's just me talking to you, called Debt is the American dream. Be sure to check out that show until next week. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. In In the Spirit of Rich Dad, don't quit your daydream. Speaker 3 34:52 Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business. Professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively. Keith Weinhold 35:18 The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, Get Rich education.com
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