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Join hosts Jeffrey Sherman, Norma Garcia and Rich Reid for this marvelous new episode of “MOVIES WITH…” where we get close and personal with actor/director/writer/producer/podcaster and professor, Rider Strong – best known as the breakout character Shawn Hunter on the hit 90's sitcom, “Boy Meets World.”Rider and Jeff share funny and meaningful recollections of working together 30 years ago on “Boy Meets World.” Rider openly shares the bliss and pitfalls of his many years as a child star and reluctant teen idol, how it impacted his life and career and the secrets he's found and implemented to find fulfillment and pursue his lifelong deep goals and passions.  Rider traces his academic pursuits, a life-changing experience working with his father and other Vets in Viet Nam building a school -- and everything from horror films to spicy foods and streaming television and more!Thank you for listening! Please visit our website at www.nrjmediagroup.com to learn more.

Boy Meets World's Angela Moore (Trina McGee) quickly became one of the most influential Black teen sitcom characters of the 1990s when she joined the cast in season 5 and became one half of the show's best power couple with on-again-off-again boyfriend Shawn Hunter. But as beloved as she was, she still ran into a number of problems both on screen and behind the scenes. So let's take a deeper look at this groundbreaking character, her lasting legacy, and why so many fans still believe she deserved better.

We love Mr. Feeny, but now it's time for Mr. Jones! Rider helped Will and Danielle become Counting Crows superfans back in the day, and now lead singer Adam Duritz, an important musician even in Shawn Hunter's life, hangs out with the gang 30 years later.  Adam shares unbelievable stories from his life as a rock star, from writing his first song to partying & eating ribs with Rider and Danielle to what REALLY happened during their iconic SNL performance. All that AND we find out how that Adam hasn't even met most of his storied dating history - in what can only be described as the most “stroftibrite” episode of Pod Meets World yet…See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Shawn Hunter's parental situation wasn't ideal on Boy Meets World, but Rider's reality was the exact opposite. The Parent Series continues, now with Lin and King Strong in the hot seat and sharing everything you want to know about the origin of a young angsty sitcom star! The Strongs reveal the early movies that molded Rider and his brother Shiloh into creatives and what ‘90s summer blockbuster almost cast the Strongs to star opposite Warren Beatty.  The gang also finds out what it's like to watch your son become a teen heartthrob in Hollywood, all while dealing with competition, unpredictable schedules, and newfound independence. All this and more Grinders in-line skating talk, on a relative edition of Pod Meets World…See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In this chapter, Jillian and Jerry go to Beach University to relax for 4 years, but are interrupted by the murder of Shawn. It is a sad day today as Shawn Hunter has been taken from us by a sourpuss OCD cleanfreak who thinks she was good enough to be shoulder candy for big football man. Eric gets his moment, Cory gets laid and Topanga is let off the hook for being a no-good liar, even though she had zero reason to be. Also Hayden Panitieeriteerrreete, an unfunny and annoying Disney Channel-style "house mother" character and stealing 50 cent drinks - yeah, I'm phoning in the show notes today b/c they had no problem phoning in the episode. Find us on Twitter @StoryofCoryPod Or email us with your thoughts and opinions at StoryofCoryPod@gmail.com download (right click, save as...) WARNING: This episode contains adult language.

This week on The Pod Charles Cinecast, presented by The Prince Charles Cinema, our hosts Jonathan Foster and Fil Freitas head to San Francisco, where a marriage has broken down, and the father is so desperate to see his kids, that he resorts to going full drag as the geriatric nanny to spend time with them. What could go wrong?The final stop in the Filaversary arc (for now) takes us to the #2 top-earning film of 1993, with Chris Columbus' MRS. DOUBTFIRE, starring Robin Williams, Sally Field, the girl from Independence Day, Shawn Hunter's long-lost brother, and the real Matilda. You know the film; it's a family classic. It's one of Robin Williams' most memorable roles. Sure, it's got some problematic bits, and some weird choices on the soundtrack, and the whole thing probably wouldn't fly today. But, Robin Williams has just enough charisma to pull it off...Join us, as we dive into the origins of the story, casting possibilities that probably aren't true, and the rumoured lost adult cut of Mrs. Doubtfire. Is there an NC-17 version of this film floating around? No, of course not! But, take a ride back in time with this silly 90s movie that showcases one of the best comedic talents of all-time at the top of their game!"Carpe dentum. Seize the teeth."If you enjoy the podcast, leave a Rating and Review! It really helps us out!As always, you can follow the Podcast on http://twitter.com/ThePCCPodcast and http://instagram.com/ThePCCPodcastIf you'd like to Support the Podcast and get Bonus Content, visit: http://patreon.com/ThePCCPodcastThis Podcast is produced by The Prince Charles Cinema and The Breadcrumbs Collective

Rider Strong, best known for starring as Shawn Hunter on the ABC sitcom Boy Meets World, which he reprised in its sequel series Girl Meets World, will be joining Billy and Frank on the May 3rd episode of A Mick A Mook and A Mic. In addition to his acting talents, Rider is also a producer, director, and screenwriter. He also hosts with his Boy Meets World co-stars, Will Friedle and Danille Fishel, on the popular podcast, Pod Meets World, which goes on a national tour this summer. Rider also headlined the horror movie Cabin Fever and co-wrote and directed the independent film Irish Twins with his brother, Shiloh. He provided the voices of Brick Flagg in Kim Possible and Kim Possible Movie: So the Drama, and Tom Lucitor in Star vs. the Forces of Evil.In 2015, Strong was honored with the Young Artist Former Child Star Lifetime Achievement Award.Born in San Francisco, Strong later graduated magna cum laude from Columbia University as an English major. He completed his Master of Fine Arts in fiction and literature at Bennington College.Strong married actress Alexandra Barreto after they met while filming the 2006 television series Pepper Dennis. They have one son, Indigo “Indy” Barreto Strong.Be sure to join Mick and Mook on May 3rd for this enlightening episode.

Episode Summary Brooke, Casandra, and Margaret talk about the war in Ukraine and how Russia is not doing great, the train derailment in East Palestine, anti trans bills, Adderall shortages and meth, the return of Big Chicken, long covid as potential auto immune disease, further bans on abortion drugs, drought, floods, earthquakes and the US's top priority: shooting million dollar missiles at balloons. Host Info Margaret can be found on twitter @magpiekilljoy or instagram at @margaretkilljoy. Casandra is just great and can be found at Strangers doing awesome layouts, and Brooke can be found on Twitter or Mastodon @ogemakweBrooke. Publisher Info This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Next Episode A special episode will come out next week on March 17th on Surviving the Justice System. Transcript This Month in the Apocalypse: Feb. 2023 Brooke 00:15 Hello and welcome to Live Like the World is Dying, your podcast for what feels like the end times. This is the February-March installment of our segment, This Month in the Apocalypse and I'm calling it the February-March episode because we're recording in February and we're talking about February but you're going to be listening to it in March, most likely. I'm Brooke Jackson, and with me today, as usual are the quick thinking Casandra and the fast acting Margaret Killjoy. Casandra 00:38 I don't know if that's accurate. Margaret 00:42 Or at least fast talking sometimes, especially when I'm hyper. And today I'm hyper Casandra 00:46 half of what I'm going to talk about today is brain fog and how it impacts me. Brooke 00:51 Nice. Well, before we get into today's episode, we'd like to share a little something something from another one of the swiftly streaming podcasts on the Channel Zero network of anarchist podcasts. Casandra 01:17 And we're back. Cas, Margaret, how are you feeling today? Casandra 01:51 I just had my first sip of tea. Margaret 01:55 I have been doom scrolling so hard that I didn't sleep last night because of all the anti trans legislation. So I didn't sleep enough and then I ate a protein cookie and pretended like it was food. So I'm great. Casandra 02:07 And you don't do caffeine at all. Not even tea. Margaret 02:09 No, yeah, a bunch of sugar and protein in a cookie form is my equivalent of like making me immediately hyper. Casandra 02:18 Alright. Margaret 02:19 Because I don't fuck with caffeine. I'm straight edge, except for alcohol. Brooke 02:24 Well good, you should take all that energy and tell us some things. Margaret 02:29 Oh, okay, right. I'm first. Okay, February has been a big month for the apocalypse. The Apocalypse is coming in hard with a bunch of mostly really bad shit. I think that the biggest story, or whatever, the earthquake that happened in Turkey and Syria was really fucking bad. Everyone probably already knows this. As of when I'm recording it, the death toll stands at about 50,000 people in Turkey and Syria. Those numbers are still expected to go up. And a lot of it has to do with poverty and with buildings that are not built to withstand earthquakes. This is happening in a poor region. And that is absolutely affecting everything. I don't have as much information about that to relay, but I just feel like it's like the single most...like now I'm going to talk about the fucking balloons and I hate the fucking balloons. And I want people to know that like the earthquake is more important. But on February 14th, I think, I don't remember, I wrote on February 14, but you think I'd remember that was Valentine's Day. A surveillance balloon, there's a Chinese balloon and the US shot it down. It was a really actually big balloon and it probably included some surveillance equipment. China was like, "It's civilian." The US is like, "No, it was military." I'm not stressed about it because I expect the US government is surveilling me and I don't really give a shit if some other country...whatever, I don't fucking care. It may have been capturing cell transmissions and shit over the US. But then, of course, this sets off this like massive paranoia, where everyone's like, "Balloons are trying to get us. Those Chinese balloons." And the US like scrambled.... Brooke 04:20 I always knew it was going to be balloons. I've always said it, the balloons are coming for us. Casandra 04:22 Doomsday mechanism. Margaret 04:26 I mean... Brooke 04:27 it's the balloons. Clearly. Margaret 04:30 They are creepy. Actually. This is funny, my my dad is phobic of hot air balloons. I'm sorry to reveal this about you, dad. And because he was always like, "No, they're just there. They're on the horizon. They're creepy." Like he's not afraid of being in that. He's afraid of them like on the horizon. Casandra 04:46 One of my most traumatizing childhood moments was this hot air balloon show was like going over the neighborhood and I was spinning in circles staring upward watching them as one does and forgot that my mom had a whole like row of rose bushes. And then spent the whole afternoon having like rose thorns picked out of my ass. So, that's all to say that I don't think your dad's insane. Margaret 05:10 Yeah, so the US government scrambled a bunch of fighter jets to shoot down a whole bunch of other balloons, all of which, like the government is like, "We do not believe that they are surveillance balloons, but we don't know." And the reason that they're saying we don't know is because, well one they obliterated tiny balloons with missiles. So there's like, not a lot left. There's like like half a million dollar missiles being shot at these fucking things, one of which missed. They missed a fucking balloon over Lake Huron, and then it like, fell into the lake. And they're like, "No one was harmed." And I'm like, great, I feel so fucking good that the government is shooting missiles at the US. That makes sense. And so probably those balloons are like amateur weather balloons, like people like do this, where you're like, I'm gonna get a balloon and like, put a bunch of equipment on it and send it up into the sky. And it's cool, right? And because you can like see the stuff. And so fortunately, the US government is there to protect us against amateur weather and radio fans. Brooke 06:11 You know, you know, our friends over that other podcast have been saying we should nuke the Great Lakes. So I think this was just a trial run to... Margaret 06:20 Fuck, Robert Evans is like actually the one that got them to shoot missiles. Casandra 06:24 Cancel Robert Evans. Margaret 06:25 Yep. All right. Yeah. Or he's a prophet. Brooke 06:32 That's what I was gonna say, Margaret 06:34 Speaking of Prophets, but actually, in both mench versions of that word, there was a massive disaster on February 3, in East Palestine [rhymes with Springsteen], Ohio, because it's not pronounced Palestine [rhymes with Stein], in which a train carrying a bunch of toxic shit had overheated wheel bearings, and derailed. It passed like a bunch of sensors that were like, detect overheated stuff. And then like on the last one, it was like, "Hey, you're overheating," and then it crashed. This overturned 11 Toxic cars at a...a bunch of more cars overturned, but 11 of them were full of toxic chemicals, including vinyl chloride, but also a bunch of other shit. 115,000 gallons of vinyl chloride, were let loose. And then they were like, "Slright, well, we better set the shutter on fire," I'm not actually even going to like talk shit on the fact that they set on fire. It might have been the best thing that they could do in that circumstances. There is a lot of stuff that is implying that the government and you know, Norfolk Southern and all that are like downplaying the degree to this disaster. It is a massive disaster, it is a big fucking deal. And the people involved should be held accountable. And there's like, all kinds of stuff about how a lot of the deregulation and of course, you know, the fact doesn't help that Biden like stopped a railroad strike for better safety conditions, because that's mostly huge part of what people are striking for. And they absolutely are like, the numbers are trending upwards. They're like, "It's not a big deal." And they were like, "Hey, there's a bunch of dead fish." And people were like, "There are 4000 dead fish." And they had a very specific number. It might not have been that number was like 300, 800, 3,850, or something. As of this morning, when I double checked, they're up to 43,000 dead aquatic animals. That's 10 times the previous claim. I understand why people are skeptical of these claims. They're probably not forever chemicals. These are the sorts of chemicals that will break down. However, no one knows the long term effects of the exposure that people have already had to these chemicals. And it's fucked up. Norfolk Southern stock has dropped, but not as precipitously as you would might like. It's not even as low as it was last October, just like took a dip. So buy the dip, everyone go out and buy....don't do this. Don't go out and buy stock. Okay, that's what I know about that. Other people might know more about it. Casandra 08:56 Oh, I was just gonna say that.... Margaret 08:57 Next. Okay go ahead. Casandra 08:58 I was just gonan say that the EPA seemed pretty like, firm with them, which I appreciated. It wasn't the response I expected. Oh, were you wagging your finger at me? Or like...they were like. Brooke 09:12 I was being the EPA. Yeah. Because we're in a point of visual medium here, right with a podcast. So, everyone can see me doing that. Casandra 09:19 I watched the recording and the guy was like, "If y'all don't do this up to our standards, we will do it and then bill you and not just like, you'll get the bill, but we'll bill you a certain number of times the amount that it actually cost us as a penalty." Yeah, it's something I don't know. Margaret 09:37 I mean, that's good. Yeah. Oh and then the other thing, when I when I lead with the transition of Prophets in both sense of the word. About a week before this disaster, I watched the Netflix movie "White Noise" based on the 1980s novel called "White Noise," in which a toxic chemical train spill it In East Palestine, Ohio happens and fucks everything up. And it fucks with my head, just straight up. It fucks with my head that I watched a movie about a natural disaster and then... not a natural disaster, a manmade disaster. And then a week later, it happened in the same town of 5000 Fucking people. Or 4000 people. Casandra 10:20 Maybe, you're not a prophet, maybe actually. Your brain just determines all of reality. Margaret 10:29 Oh, no, I'm not a prophet. No, no, no, no, I don't think this is me. Casandra 10:31 I think that what happens in your head is then what happens in the outside world. That's more plausible. Brooke 10:39 Yeah, that seems right. Casandra 10:40 So, don't think anything.... Margaret 10:42 This is a really good thing to tell someone who lives alone. Brooke 10:46 I mean, it clearly anyone who reaches a certain level of podcasting, fame then develops a power to cause things to happen. Yeah, that's what we're saying here. Margaret 10:57 Good to know. And then everyone lived in a happy anarchist society for all times in which everyone was equal, except Margaret was a little bit more equal and got like twice as much tea in the morning. Casandra 11:06 You don't like tea. We just went over this. Margaret 11:10 Yeah, well, I shouldn't have more of something I want. That would be fucked up. Casandra 11:14 This is the like weirdest Catholic version of anarchist Utopia I've ever heard of. Margaret 11:23 Hi, I'm Margaret Killjoy. Alright, so it's speaking of other bad shit that happened this year, or actually, well, okay. The thing that happened in February is is the one year anniversary of the Ukraine war. As currently stands, it's fallen out of the news, which means that no one is dying anymore, and everything is fine. Except that... Brooke 11:47 PBS still does it. So to just throw a tiny amount of credit over there. But yeah... Margaret 11:54 Yeah, well actually it's funny because people will talk mad shit about mainstream news and for good reason. But like, overall, I think mainstream news is a little bit better of a job than like Twitter at like, staying attached to stories over time, rather than just like chasing the clicks, which is fucking saying something because that is what mainstream news was notoriously bad at. I just think social media is even worse at it. On the other hand, it's not the job of the random Twitter person to....Okay, so, the Ukraine war is largely out of stalemate. As stands Russia holds 17% of Ukraine, an area twice the size of Italy. It's less than they controlled at the beginning of the war by a decent amount, and specifically, almost all their holdings are in the east. And it's been like slowly being chipped away at overall is kind of the general thing. Most foreign fighters left after a few months, it went down, there's 20,000 foreign fighters, mostly like vets of various other countries who are like, "Well fuck an invasion." And a lot of people were like, I think actually a lot of people were like, "Well, I fought in all of these like evil US wars, because they have like worked for the US government. Here's a just war," and people went like chasing a just war, right. It's down from about 20,000 foreign fighters to 2000 foreign fighters as the war drags on. China is calling for peace talks right now. And more might have happened by the time you hear this, like this is like news from yesterday and today, and their position is...like I mean overall they're trying to present themselves as neutral, but like overall they're like, "This is a war of Western aggression." You know? "This is a war of you know a Ukraine shouldn't dress like that if it didn't want to get attacked." They've four times abstained....Thank you for laughing at my off color joke. And yeah, I mean, because that is what it comes down to this idea of like, we had to invade you because you are getting too close to our borders with your power or whatever. Like, you can't fucking justify invading another country for that reason. Casandra 14:03 They're opposing US imperialism, Margaret. Margaret 14:06 Yeah, they do. Casandra 14:07 NATO! Margaret 14:10 Yeah. Yeah. And that's China's position. They're with the US tankies. Or rather US tankies are with them. They have four times abstained from voting in the UN votes to ask Russia to withdraw its troops it's possible also that China's like trying to get in....and this is like everyone. This is the actual imperialism from my point of view about all this is everyone calling for these peace talks a lot of it is that they're like they want in on the economic reconstruction aka they want like their economic interest in the capitalism to to do their thing just to China it's slightly more state capitalism in the US it's slightly more.. Casandra 14:46 China's not capitalist Margaret What are you talking about? Margaret 14:48 Oh, right. Sorry. I Forgot. They want to bring their peoples army... and I Love that It's like the tankies pretending that Russia is fucking commie...anyway. The number of Russian soldiers Ukraine is killing is going up, which, you know, whatever, fuck them. 824 Such Russian soldiers a day are dying in Ukraine in February, which is the highest rate since the invasion started. Between 180,000 and 270,000 Russians have died in the war in the past year. And for comparison, Russia is this huge place. And we think about like how Russia just like, bled people during World War II, you know. Russia is only half the population of the United States. And so this is...so when you think about percentage wise, if you think about, it's like, you know, the equivalent of half a million people dying in one year in a dumb fucking war. About 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died. They claim that 13,000 of their soldiers have died. Vaguely neutral observers from the outside of claims that 100,000 have died, which is like, their, their like, kill rate, oh, God, I'm not even going to pretend to put this in video game terms. That's fucked up. And also another 30,000 or so civilians, Ukrainian civilians have died. Like directly, tons more displace. Everything's fucked up. It's war. I haven't been able to get a recent number for the total number of arrests in Russia. But, it's like worth really understanding how much a lot of Russians do fucking not want this to happen. There were 15,000 people arrested protesting against the war and like the first month of the war alone, and there's thousands more at various other times, but I wasn't able to find a total count. And, you know, in case anyone needs any reminding that nationalism is garbage. between half a million and a million Russians have fled, rather than be conscripted and fight in this stupid fucking bullshit. And 200 or so Russians are actively fighting for Ukraine. There is no out good outside guests. That is a guess from one of these Russian fighters. And they all have different reasons. I am aware of their being Russian anarchists. I was not able to find more information about that. Most of the anarchists that I know from other countries I think are more involved in directing solidarity goods, except for Belarus.. A lot of anarchists fighters in Ukraine. Anyway, of the 200 or so fighters, the the one I was able to find the specific motive for he's is doing as his Christian duty to stop invasions. And let's see, okay, almost done with the Russian war thing. Dutch intelligence reports that Russia is mapping power and gas infrastructure in the North Sea for potential attack. This came out like yesterday. So who knows what will happen with that. And then it's also kind of worth knowing there's like all of these, like anti war rallies happening around the war around the world. And most of them are like about trying to stop the Russian invasion of Ukraine, right? They're like, "Hey, this war is fucked up, aka Russia is fucked up." But in the US, we get a different kind of anti war movement, we get an anti war movement that's a weird collection of tankies and Nazis... Casandra 18:20 Margaret, that never happened! Margaret 18:21 ...coming together like a Molotov-Ribbontrop Pact to say stop the war machine. Casandra 18:28 Stalin is the whole reason..... Margaret 18:34 Yeah, no, I know. Casandra 18:38 The reason the Nazis were defeated soley was because of Stalin, therefore, you know, the Soviet Union never never ever could have allied with the Nazis, even though we have historical records that it did blah, blah. Margaret 18:53 Yeah, like at the beginning, Russia was like, "Hey, allies, can we hang out with you, Germany's looking real weird." And the allies were like, "I'm not sure." And so then Russia was like or USSR was like, "Hey, Nazis, can we hang out with you? We know bad shits about to happen," and they were like, "Yeah, but totally," and the USSR sent them tons of aid, just literal material, tons of aid. And collectively, they mapped out which countries they were going to invade together and they invaded Poland together...It's Poland. Am I getting that right? And then, Germany was like "JK, surprise attack." And then the USSR was like, "Okay, we're against you." And then fucking millions of Russians died to defeat the Nazis and that needs to be understood and respected. But like Stalin was like making them...there's like, reports from survivors...This is totally what this episode is about. There's like reports from survivors who were like forced to charge Nazi tanks bare handed. And so like, the high numbers of Russian dead wasn't because Stalin ruled. The high numbers is because Stalin fucking sucks. Anyway. Casandra 20:08 And there's also the whole like, the line that like the USSR saved with the Jews or whatever, when, which was just like totally. Anyway, we won't talk about how Jews were treated in the USSR. Margaret 20:23 When they signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact....Yeah. Anyway, USSR is not modern Russia, but there's an anti war movement. So that's okay. That's Ukraine. Now, the trans laws, the thing that has me up all night. Yesterday, I believe the Tennessee House passed a bill. And now this was misrepresented. And I accidentally misrepresented this too, because I trusted a Twitterer who trusted a news article from a mainstream source that, okay, a Tennessee House did pass this bill. And by the time you're listening to this, probably their fucking Senate and Governor have signed off on it. But the article was like, "And now it goes up to the governor." It doesn't it goes to the Senate first. And a lot of really shitty laws passed the House, but not the Senate in like, any given place. So there's like, still hope. But I'm not full of fucking hope because a lot of these types of laws are passing right now. The type of law I'm talking about, this is an anti drag law. And these anti drag laws are similar ones proposed around the country and all the details are a little bit different. But the overall idea is that if anyone who is a male or female impersonator, AKA a crossdresser, aka, me living my fucking life, or a drag performer, if they perform, and if it's like, in any way, like...some places it's just like literally if they perform, or exist in public, and another one's the Tennessee laws a little bit like, and they perform in a way that has any kind of like, sexual titillation, or whatever then that has to be the venue that is now a strip club legally, or like, needs to be a like 18+ adult entertainment, cabaret or whatever the fuck Casandra 22:15 Like who's deciding if something's sexual? Margaret 22:19 Uh huh. And it is. First cops, then judges, Two groups I trust to the bottom of my....nothing. Margaret 22:35 Or the parents who call the cops. Brooke 22:41 Don't forget about he mob. Margaret 22:42 Yeah, no, totally. They're the first step in it. So that is the literal criminal criminalization of being trans in public. Casandra 22:45 Yeah, there are nine anti trans laws on the books right now in Oregon. Yeah. Margaret 22:52 Yeah. There's 14 other states with similar anti drag laws in the works, including Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, and Idaho. And I just didn't find the full list, I found people like a couple different places giving like short versions of the list. South Dakota did just pass a law like not just the house or whatever, but like it's fucking signed, that forces trans youth to detransition. And Utah passed a law against trans youth also, very recently, or against allowing trans youth to transition. But, I don't believe it forcibly detransitioned. I believe that this one in South Dakota is the first one to force detransition, which from my point of view, pretty much means that trans...families with trans children who can't afford to move are going to have their trans kids run away or kill themselves. Just like, frankly, I am not recommending. I am recommending if you're a trans youth to in a place that is affected by this to get in touch with community to try and help you and your family get out of that situation. That is what I'm directly recommending. But, the the reason that doctors believe in gender affirming care for trans youth is that it lowers the rates of death substantially. Oklahoma is currently considering a bill to ban gender affirming care to adults, anyone under the age of 26. Brooke 24:22 Fucking Oklahoma. Casandra 24:22 I can't remember which bill i was reading, but I was reading about one that was worded in such a way where gender affirming care also ended up including things like hormones for ciswomen dealing with menopause, like it was so broad sweeping that like, I just don't think people consider the broader implications. You know what I mean? Margaret 24:41 I don't know whether this one was that one, but I...it wouldn't surprise me and I feel like people pass laws like that all the time. And then just like, no one's going to actually stop cis women from accessing hormones from menopause, you know, or like, you know, people dealing with prostate cancer often take hormones and you know, testosterone blockers and things like that, and like...All the shit is overbroad, like crazy, but not in a way where I feel like oh, it's overbroad, and it gets struck down like no, it's gonna get targetedly used against trans people against, the Left. And 5% of US people in the US who are under the age of 25 identify as trans or like nonbinary in some way, compared to point .5% of the rest of the population as a whole. And I would like to...don't make me tap of the sign of the that graph of chart of left handedness as a chart of left handedness. Like once they stopeed. Once they started letting people be left handed, it goes up and caps itself, you know. And every major medical association in America recognizes that gender affirming care for youth saves lives. That is not a...I assume everyone listening to this already knows the shit, but it's like worth fucking knowing. This is not a like, medically contested issue. You know, this is like, and I'm not like, "Man, you know, who I trust immediately, the medical institution, they always have our backs." But, they do in this case, because they're not fucking... Oh, God. That's what I've got to talk about this week. Brooke 26:20 Jon Stewart did a good piece that was on gender affirming care that maybe everyone's already seen, because it was a little while ago, but was, you know, citing those...Just what you're exactly what you're saying, Margaret about every every major medical organization in the US. Margaret 26:38 And honestly has been one of the only cispeople I've seen talking about it in public. The silence from cispeople has been deafening. And if your cis and listening to this, I'm hoping that if you've been silent about it, I'm hoping that the reason you've been silent about it, is because you're afraid of taking up too much of the conversation. Because we do have this way of talking about social issues right now, where people are afraid to talk about issues that don't directly affect them. And I think that that is a misstep. And that it will take cis people talking about this angrily, before anything will change. Because, when it's just trans people, and sometimes their immediate families who are showing up to protest, everyone's going to be like, "Well, fuck those pedo whatever," fuck, whatever. Fucking bullshit, you know. So from my point of view, part of the reason this keeps me up at night is not because the Nazis want to kill me, they've wanted to kill me for a long time, they've sent me letters to this effect, with like, my parents address in it, you know, it's that when I don't feel supported, is when I feel the most lost about all of this stuff, just frankly. And so sometimes like that support is like, like, "Margaret's guide to being supportive to your trans friends," is like, like, sometimes, like random people messaging me to be like, "I see you, you're valid." I'm like, that's great. I don't I don't need that from strangers. What I need from strangers is for people to talk to the people, they're around and say shit about this, you know, I have a, I know I'm valid. I have a supportive family. And I have a supportive network of friends and all of that, you know? Yeah, sorry, this is...I mean, all of these things that we're going to talk about are big deals. But you know, this one affects me very directly. Brooke 28:45 Oh, no, I appreciate you saying more about it, because I was gonna ask follow up questions about like, you know, showing support and good ways to do that. So thanks for talking about that. Margaret 28:55 Be fucking angry. Like, you know, and it's like, and this stuff like, it's also all part of misogyny. Like, because people want to control people's bodies. And so transmen are affected by this because they're, like, leaving womanhood behind and that's bad or whatever. And then of course, transwomen are like, the reason that people don't want us to exist is a weird protect the women thing, right? And so like, when cis women are loudly like, "No, I would rather have this transwoman in the bathroom with me then like I don't know someone who's like peeking under stalls to make sure no one has a penis." Like people being loud about that kind of support. There's this brilliant video of thus person who I believe is a cis woman who's like getting gender policed by a Karen in a bathroom. Casandra 29:47 I saw that Margaret 29:48 And refuses to answer whether or not she has a dick. Yeah, it fucking...that gives me hope. So, I like. Casandra 30:00 That's like reverse Karen. Brooke 30:02 I just bookmarked that so I can watch it after Casandra 30:05 We should start a Nazis know our parents' address club. Margaret 30:17 And then like...it's funny I try not to talk too much about my family on this podcast, I guess, but then again the Nazis already know where they live. Like my dad's fucking ex marine with anger management issue who loves this trans daughter? How's do they think this is gonnna go? Casandra 30:35 I mean, my situation, my parent's would've been like "Whatever." Margaret 30:41 Yeah, okay, fair. I'm sorry. Casandra 30:43 Okay, who's next? Brooke 30:48 Okay. Can we talk about happier things? Margaret 30:54 What podcast are on? Casandra 30:57 I genuinely can't remember who's next. Is it you, Brooke? Brooke 31:03 Allegedly. Although, if it's something you have segues better for, I'm all for it. I had a good segue from the war thing. But then we then we start talking about the trans issue and I don't know where to go from there. Casandra 31:13 I think the world is shit. There are lots of them. They're diverse, shitty things to talk about, you know? Margaret 31:18 Well, and even the war thing, it's like, you know, what, Ukraine is fucking holding on a year later. That is a fucking positive story. It is a terrible, horrible story. But they're still fucking there. You know, like people thought Ukraine wasn't going to be a country by last summer. Brooke 31:36 That's a really good point. Well, speaking of war, wars, the war on drugs. Drugs. Adderall. I did it you're welcome. We did a, I think our August episode or something like that we did a roundup on like shortages, things that were in shortages. And I know we talked about Adderall at one point and being in shortage and why. And that started like last summer sometime I think August or so it was when people started talking about it. The FDA or DEA, I can't remember which one it was that came out with the announcement. I think the the FDA came out like late October and said, "Hey, we have an Adderall shortage." And everyone said, "We fucking know we've been dealing with with this for two or three months now." And it's gotten worse than it's been in the news again, recently, because of just how much worse it has gotten. We talked about it previously, we talked about some of the reasons why the shortage was happening. And part of it is a production issue. It's a very controlled substance. So, it's not like manufacturers can just start pumping out a whole bunch more. And not just like the creation of the Adderall. But the ingredients that go into it are controlled substances as well, so they can only make so much of that. Allegedly, there's enough supply of the base ingredients that we shouldn't have this shortage. So.... Casandra 33:10 Sorry, I'm stupid about Adderall, is it it because meth. Is that the....? Okay, sorry. Brooke 33:18 That's where I'm going with this, but yeah, that's that is that. That is part of the reason it's such a controlled substance, because Amphetamine is, you know, main ingredient, it's it's people often refer to Adderall as being, you know, legal meth, or prescribed meth. Casandra 33:33 I know nothing. Wow. That's wild. Brooke 33:42 So, there have been some reports of folks that haven't been able to get their Adderall and have, in fact, turned to meth in order to get the substance they need, and there's not a good sense of how like widespread this is, versus, you know, a couple of instances that hit the news, you know, there's at least one story of somebody who died in an ER, because of meth. And they said they were taking the math because they couldn't get their Adderall prescription. And, you know, meth, you know, historically causes no problems to the brain and doesn't make people say things that are wacky and untrue. So we can trust that story. But, that's what's happening. But, the fun conspiracy theorh where I'm going with this that's floating around is that the government is purposely restricting the manufacture of Adderall to force people to turn to meth to perpetuate the war on drugs. So there you go. Conspiracy theories are fun. Margaret 34:43 Wait, So this is a new conspiracy. Okay. How the balloons tie in? Casandra 34:48 Yeah. Margaret 34:49 Is that where moving it? They're getting the Adderall out of the country? Casandra 34:52 They're delivering it. If we would have let them come in farther, they would have just released it because everyone wants Adderall. Margaret 34:58 Oh, yeah. That's sort of true...the part where everyone wants Adderal. Casandra 35:03 I do not. Margaret 35:06 Yeah. No, I don't want Adderall. I'm hyper off a cookie. Brooke 35:12 That's part of the issue is that the prescriptions for Adderall increased 27%. From 2019 to 2022. There were like 35 million prescriptions in the US, which is a fuck ton, in 2019. And then it went up to like 45 million by 2021 or 22. And I mean, shocker. Everybody's stuck inside with a pandemic. Like we overprescribed, that are all for sure. And I and that is not to say there's not people who genuinely need it out there. And I don't mean to bash anybody's use of of that prescription. But you know, one of the articles that I was reading they, you know how news reports like to pick a human interest story to tell their story, they were talking about this 16 year old female in Utah, who's like in all of the AP classes, honors classes is getting ready for college and how stressed out she was and obsessed with perfection, and she couldn't get all her stuff done. And then she got an Adderall prescription. And, and now she's able to get all her homework done, and she's acing all their classes, and it's ready for college and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, well, yeah, I mean, you just gave her gave her amphetamines. Casandra 36:36 I feel like there's a misuse potential. Like, the people I know, who have ADHD and take Adderall, it doesn't impact their system that way, you know. And I also think there's a certain, I see this with autism as well, there's a certain amount of like, like the left handed thing that Margaret brought up, you know? Like, it might seem like, it might seem like an undue spike, but I'm sure a large percentage of that is people who are finally getting care they need. Margaret 37:12 And then also, like, I think about it because I came closer to seeking medication for ADHD than I ever have. And what it was for me is that I built my entire life around the fact that I have ADHD, there's a reason that I'm a freelancer, there's a reason that I, you know, I travel, there's a reason I work for myself. Like, there's all these things that I've done, that have made ADHD not a problem in my life, right. But actually, the beginning of the pandemic, it made it more of a problem. It made it harder for me because like, I had to sit in my cabin and work on a computer in order to eat food, and stuff, you know, and so like, and I don't thrive in certain environments, and so I was like, "Man, if I had something that helped me thrive in this environment." So. Casandra 37:56 Which then makes me wonder, like, how much of that need is attached to Capitalism, you know, lthe ike productivity. So? Yeah. Margaret 38:04 Oh, yeah. No, totally. I mean. Totally. I had a day job for a minute. Casandra 38:10 Sitting in a cabin alone with....That sounds like my dream. Margaret 38:16 I know. Well, I was fine until the day job. Awesome. Margaret 38:24 Okay, so, Brooke 38:25 Again, I don't want to like bash anybody that's taking it. I don't know. I don't want to say that there aren't legitimate reasons that some of those people didn't need it. But, we we do know that it's overprescribed, that you take you know, young people who are high achieving, and we've got them overscheduled and fucking Capitalism. Casandra 38:41 Oh, everyone, I knew in college was....Adderall all the time. Brooke 38:46 Yeah, just give them drugs. So, that's part of the problem. Anyway, the DEA is trying to get you addicted to meth. x Casandra 38:59 I thought it was the FDA. Margaret 39:02 And that's why they're shooting down balloons. Brooke 39:06 No, it's the DEA because that's the Drug Enforcement Agency. They're the ones trying to perpetuate the war on drugs and they have something to do. Casandra 39:14 I hope people know when we are and aren't being sarcastic. Margaret 39:22 I hope so too. But I'm not optimistic. Brooke 39:27 Never take me seriously. That's my answer. I have one other fun conspiracy theory thing. Okay, it actually came up right after the end of our last recording and it was kind of a bummer. We didn't get it in there. But, it's about chicken feed. Casandra 39:46 Big Chicken! Brooke 39:47 And chicken feed conspiracy, that something is....Yep, Big Chicken. Not and not Tyson. Not that evil chicken, but it's actually a big big fooder you may have heard of this brand called Purina? Casandra 40:01 Dog food. Brooke 40:02 Are pretty well known for creating pet food. Yeah. Margaret 40:05 They feed cats. Brooke 40:06 But they also make more industrial feeds like chicken feed and guinea pigs and goats and I don't even know the full extent of their thing, but they make feed for a lot of different kinds of animals. And people started reporting in July last year that their chickens and this is industrial level and you know, household people chicken in the backyard kind of people, crazies like me that their their egg laying productions seem to be going down. And then going through the winter, a lot of a lot of people have talked about their eggs production from their chickens being at or very near zero, which I also have been in this boat for a while my my four girls were not laying any eggs. And it wasn't an old chicken issue, like they're, they're young, and they just started laying this last summer. And yes, production goes down in the winter, that's normal, but doesn't usually just completely drop off. So, people were posting about it on social medias and talking about it and started forming this conspiracy that there's something wrong with chicken feed, Purina mainly because they're one of the biggest suppliers not just under their name brand, but their sub brands as well. And that something is missing in the chicken feed that's causing them not to lay as well. And then lots people saying "I switched to another brand, I started mixing my own," blah, blah, blah. "And suddenly my my chickens are laying again." And as much as I hate conspiracy theories and don't want to feed into it, I have to say that I also was having the same issue of zero egg production. And then I grabbed a protein blend from a different brand and started mixing that into their feed and getting eggs. Margaret 41:49 That doesn't have to be a conspiracy. They could have just fucked up. Casandra 41:51 Honestly, people have reported that they've had their feet tested. They've had their Purina tested and it contains the appropriate amount of protein. So there's like, at this point a month later....I'm sorry, I was the one who brought this up because I was I raise quail. And so I'm on, I don't know, poultry, social media. Yeah. Anyway. But yeah, so apparently people have gotten their feed tested, and it has the appropriate components, so now they're like, "Is there something added to it?" That's the new conspiracy. Margaret 42:27 Well, I know what, I know what the problem is. Brooke 42:29 Morgaret has the answer. Casandra 42:32 Okay, good. Margaret 42:32 Yeah, I watched this....No, it's not gonna be the answer. No, I watched this documentary called All Quiet on the Western Front on Netflix last night. And in it, the Imperial German soldiers, while they're occupied France during World War One, there's they're breaking into farmers yards and stealing the eggs. And so it's actually. It's actually Imperial German soldiers are breaking into everyone's yards and stealing quail eggs and chicken eggs. Brooke 43:10 Oh, okay. Casandra 43:12 Obvious. Brooke 43:12 There are a lot of other factors that genuinely influence chicken, like production, like the amount of light and the temperature. And, you know, our light levels are not particularly off. They're low this time of year, like always, but it definitely has been a little bit colder on average this winter here for us, though. My mother...Hi, Mom, I love you was like you need to put a heating light on your chickens and they'll lay more which I did for a month and it didn't affect anything. Although that was also after one of those snows that we had too. Casandra 43:44 Can I telll you one of the more wingnut versions of this I've heard? Brooke 43:47 Yes, please. Casandra 43:48 And who knows. But, the most like, you know, puppet master version of all of this I've heard is that Purina partnered with some giant egg company that I can't remember the name of right now, who just opened a whole bunch of, starting last fall open several massive like egg production facilities. So, it's in Purina's best interest to add something to the feed so that our chickens can't lay eggs. And that's why egg prices are through the roof. And now you have to buy the eggs and it's just ohhhh. Yeah. Brooke 44:26 Yeah, that's the other thing that's feeding into the conspiracy theories I was gonna wrap this up with. Brooke 44:29 Sorry. I'm taking... Brooke 44:30 No, you're fine. It's perfect. Perfect segue. Excellent. Yeah. Is the prices going up on eggs is all feeding into conspiracy and you know, people not thinking about food prices in general have gone up and we feed chickens food things. And yeah, anyway, what Margaret? Margaret 44:48 Oh, just there's some, I was reading today, that there's some guesses that we might have hit peak food inflation, specifically around eggs and meat. Because basically, no one can get enough money...because you can't sell eggs at a certain...the way cap, the market works, you know, you can't sell it at a certain amount, so fewer sell or whatever. And so wholesale egg prices have started dropping. And as of when the article I read came out this had not yet hit retail egg prices. Because people probably are like, Well, alright, I can buy them for cheap and sell them for just as much Fuck yeah. But wholesale egg prices are starting to drop and meat prices are also starting to drop on a wholesale level, because inflation reduced the profit. Brooke 45:39 Okay. Well, the one upside, so that's sorry..... Casandra 45:48 I think there's something about Purina feed, and we don't know what and that's fine. And that people seem to be switching feeds or making their own and it's fine. I mean, there might be but like, I don't really care personally, I'm like, I just want my quails to lay eggs. Margaret 46:07 And it's just not a conspiracy. They're just fucked up their food. Brooke 46:09 Right. Yeah, there's other complicating factors. It's not maybe not just this one thing. Like, yeah, you know, we hear where Cas and I live have had a colder little bit colder winter than average and that'll slow down production. I don't know for the US as an entirety but you know, just an example. Margaret 46:25 Well, there's there's that saying "Never never attribute to incompetence. What can be understood..." No, wait. I know something isn't...It's Goddamnit "It's not malice. It's incompetence." It's more likely that it is incompetence than malice at any given thing that's happening. Casandra 46:49 I mean, yeah, it's like very experienced people who are having this issue, like there's something, there's something wrong, right? Margaret 47:05 Oh, that's what I mean about...sorry, I don't mean incompetence of the chicken keepers. The chicken lords. Brooke 47:10 That is what we call ourselves, Margaret, chicken lords. Margaret 47:12 I mean, the incompetence of Purina. The...like Purina fucking up the feed is probably because they fucked up the feed, not cause they're like, "hahaha." Brooke 47:25 I mean, it's entirely possible Purina switched to cheaper, lower quality components to create their feeds because of inflation. Casandra 47:31 It's not incompetence if it's a giant company. Yeah. Brooke 47:35 There's something in that. The one upside of.... Casandra 47:40 Root cause. Okay. Yeah. Brooke 47:42 There you go. Nice. Margaret 47:44 Yeah, it might be greed instead of malice. Brooke 47:45 Let me just say the happy thing. Margaret 47:46 What's the happy thing? What's the happy thing? Brooke 47:50 Is that people have turned to other feed sources. So, instead of supporting the big giant mega Corp, they're supporting smaller ones, like I reached out to a local person who's making their own blends. And I'm going to start using some of that. People have learned how to create their own blends and feed their things, which I think it's always great to get away from the industrial manufacturers. So... Casandra 48:11 I don't know how to jump from chickens to this.... Brooke 48:17 Chickens. Avian Flu. Flu. Sickness. Bad. Long COVID. Casandra 48:24 I raised quail because I'm allergic to chicken eggs, cause autoimmune disease. Did you know long COVID is kind of like an autoimmune disease? Brooke 48:32 Nice. Casandra 48:35 Do either of you know anyone with long covid? Brooke 48:37 Yes. Margaret 48:39 Yeah, part of the reason I don't leave the house, not because I have it, but because I'm terrified. I mean, I'm making rational decisions around safety. Brooke 48:48 I'm worried I'm having it. Casandra 48:52 Oh, well, maybe maybe this will be easier. When I when I first heard about it. So, some of the symptoms I've heard include fatigue, brain fog, difficulty breathing, joint pain, chest pain, general like lower quality of life, gut issues. When I hear that list, I'm like, oh, that's, that sounds like my autoimmune disease. And sure enough, they're realizing that long COVID does have a lot in common with an autoimmune disease. I don't think they're classifying it that way. At this point, like the research is ongoing, but it's just really interesting to me. So apparently, something like 11% of people who get COVID-19 will have long COVID, which lets you one study in "Nature," I read said up to 65 million people are suffering from on COVID, which is apparently a 10th of the number of people worldwide who have had COVID. So , 1 in 10 people is kind of a lot. Yeah. And suddenly, you know, folks at the beginning of COVID, who were calling it, a mass disabling event make a lot more sense. Brooke 50:01 Yeah. Casandra 50:05 This is terrible and funny. I read a tweet where someone said "People went on about herd immunity. But now we have heard autoimmunity." Brooke 50:12 Oh, it's funny and awful Casandra 50:17 It is. Sorry, I'm laughing at that because I have an autoimmune disease. I think I should offer that context. So, populations impacted: Apparently 4% of folks with long COVID are under 12. Aside from that about a third are people under 50. Another third are 50 to 60. And then another third are people above 65. So it is impacting people who are our age. Brooke 50:44 You can't have three thirds and four percent. Casandra 50:47 I said, in addition to that. Or after that. Brooke 50:51 Okay, sorry. Math. Just slap me. Casandra 50:53 I read so many studies to cobble this all together. Don't judge my numbers. It's more...I say that to bookkeeper. It's more predominant in transgender folks and women, which is also true of autoimmune diseases. 75% of people with long COVID where never hospitalized. 75% of those people have not sought medical help for long COVID. And there's also an assumption that a lot of these numbers are actually higher, because we all know how reporting has gone down in and how healthcare is expensive. And if people don't have to go to a hospital or a doctor, they won't, you know. Brooke 51:35 Is there anyone out there that still saying long COVID doesn't exist? Not like the you know, extremists but like, mainstream for a while was like long COVID is made up? It's not actually happening. Is that still a common thought? Or is that finally going away? Casandra 51:50 I don't know how common it...so this is all really curious to me because I have an autoimmune disease and because last month, January 2023, two different studies came out about Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, which I also have, and how it increases the likelihood of long COVID. And when that study came out, I started to see a bunch of people talking about long COVID and low dose Naltrexone being a useful approach, which is a medication I take, which I cannot get prescribed by a regular doctor. Because they deny that it's a useful immunomodulator. Like remedy. And that's all to say that like, I think I'm hypersensitive to the disbelief around these things. And one of the reasons this if fascinating to me. Yeah, one of the reasons this is fascinating to me, is because it's opening up these conversations about these diseases that patients have been talking about for years, and have not historically been believed. Margaret 52:56 Often as a symptom of misogyny, right? Casandra 53:01 Yeah, Totally. I don't know anyone who has, you know, something in the spectrum of chronic illness who hasn't gone through, like literally years of doctor saying it "Doesn't exist," or "You don't have it." Or "It's not that bad." Like, I had to call my doctor and inform her of what I had, like, based on my labs, because she didn't tell me. And so now there's this like, sped up process around long COVID, right, where like, so many people are getting sick all at once that like, there was the disbelief and other people downplaying it. But like, research is catching up at a faster rate, it seems like, which has implications for the broader community, which could be positive. Even though it sucks that how many, how many millions. 65 million people.... Margaret 53:52 Well, it's like mRNA caccines, like, it's fucking cool, that we're suddenly able to get vaccinated for so many more things than we used to. And it is absolutely fucked that it took this...It took so many people getting this before people were like, "Oh, maybe it's just not like the modern version of hysteria," the whiny woman disease or whatever, you know. Casandra 54:20 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think there's....up until very recently, if you walked into a doctor and were like, even if you had a what's the word I'm looking for, not a prescription when they tell you what your... a diagnosis, from a previous doctor saying "I have chronic fatigue," or whatever. It's highly likely that your new doctor will say that doesn't exist. But now, suddenly, the only word...it's like the only words that they have to describe long COVID are these words like chronic fatigue and autoimmune disease? So, suddenly they have to like view them as legitimate. But studies are coming out in these like, major scientific journals like "Nature." "JANA," what's the other one? I was reading? Whatever, science. So people are taking it seriously. And that's, not exciting because I wish it didn't exist at all, but is good. Brooke 55:27 Yeah, the friend that I have. Casandra 55:28 I have a whole. Oh, go ahead. Brooke 55:30 Oh, just the friend that I have that has long COVID he has faced a lot of that struggle with this belief. I think he got COVID earlier on, or at least not recently. And yeah, definitely has faced a lot of like disbelief and extra hurdles and trying to advocate for himself and get the kind of care that he needs. Casandra 55:54 Yeah. And it's, it's I think maybe people need to understand how severe it can be. Because the umbrella of long COVID, my understanding, like, you know, they're still actively defining this term, but my understanding is that it's people who have at least two symptoms, at least, I think it's two months after the acute infection goes away. But for some people that can be so debilitating that like, they need walkers, or they need you know, it's life altering. Yeah. And I read one study that said that, as many as 4 million people are unemployed, because of long covid, which is a whole other conversation around, like, what counts as a disability in this country? And what doesn't? Like I remember when I was first diagnosed with my autoimmune disease, and was way less functional than I am now. I was like, "Why? Why would I not qualify for disability?" And the answer is that there are a lot of bureaucratic reasons, apparently. But yeah, who knows, maybe that will change too. Brooke 57:04 Part of it's because...part of the bureaucracy is that they can't take away the designation once they've given it. So, they don't want to make it too easy to label you disabled, because then you don't, you don't get to go back from being disabled. Margaret 57:22 Or we could just not means test care. And anyone who needs care, could just have care. Casandra 57:31 We don't think you're sick enough. Do you want to hear some more interesting statistics? Brooke 57:39 Always. Give me numbers. Casandra 57:42 Yeah, I know Brooks excited. So, a study in Germany recently found that people who get COVID have a 30% or had a 30% increase in risk of autoimmune diseases up to a year after their acute infection. So, there's active comorbidity there. And the people who go into COVID having an autoimmune disease, have a 25% increase in their chance of contracting additional autoimmune diseases. But that's all significantly lowered if patients are vaccinated. There's a like crunchy version of autoimmune communities where people are antivax. Margaret 58:26 Oh, that's why you're making angry eyes as soon as you.... Casandra 58:30 Well, so these statistics are particularly important, right? Margaret 58:35 I'm mad that there's been a Lyme vaccine that they just didn't finish studying. I could be wrong about this. I don't remember all the details. I read a pop science article about it. But there's like a...there's been a Lyme disease [vaccine] that they can give to dogs, but they just didn't finish studying it and people. And it's been around for like 20 years. Brooke 58:54 That's infuriating. Casandra 58:55 I don't live in Lyme country. So it's not like as big an issue here. But that's wild. Margaret 59:00 I got Lyme in Oregon. Like, where you live. But, and I and I live in fucking Lyme country and I've never gotten Lyme over here. Brooke 59:11 Wow. Yeah. Got some anyway, family in Idaho that, about 15 years ago, were battling Lyme and one of them had it since he was a teenager. Margaret 59:23 I want to fucking Lyme vaccine. It's like, I think people who play D&D are going to be smarter around risk analysis, because anyone who's played D&D knows that 5% chance of something happens means it's gonna happen. Like... Casandra 59:37 Yeah, eventually. Margaret 59:39 Yeah, exactly. And because you've had that happen over and over again, when you play this, and you also realize that anything that you get, that's like, a plus 5% safer, you always take it, right, like, and the vaccine is like a 90% safer, and people are like, "Ah, people still get sick, so therefore it's bullshit," but Like, if the vaccine made you 5% safer, and you play Dungeons and Dragons, you'll take it. Casandra 1:00:05 It's actually, it's 10%. It's 10% safer. Margaret 1:00:09 Wait, what is? Casandra 1:00:11 If you're vaccinated.... Margaret 1:00:13 Oh, about the autoimmune stuff. Okay. Casandra 1:00:15 Yeah. Margaret 1:00:15 I was thinking about like COVID itself, but yeah. Yeah. Casandra 1:00:21 I just like kind of fantasy of my high school stats class actually being taught through D&D and like, maybe I would have understood math. Margaret 1:00:27 Yeah, it like, it's, yeah, you understand probability a lot better if you like, regularly.... Casandra 1:00:33 You're actively practicing. Yeah. Yeah. Um, what else do you want to know? Margaret 1:00:43 About long COVID? Casandra 1:00:45 Yeah. Margaret 1:00:46 I was hearing that....It...For most people does taper off. Is that being understood? Or is that like, like not to be like, therefore it's fine, but just like, less of a like, "Oh, God, my life is over. This thing has happened," or whatever. Like, I was under the impression that people....not that it should...people should feel like their life is over, even if they get it bad. But like, not that it's... Casandra 1:01:17 It's not debilitating? Brooke 1:01:18 It's not permanent. Margaret 1:01:19 It's not necessarily...it's not necessarily permanently debilitating to everyone who gets it and that it like a lot of people it's about a way slower getting better, but not everyone some people it's about a permanent effect. But that other people are like recovering just very slowly. Is that? Am I completely off? I've no idea. Casandra 1:01:40 I've heard that empirically. But I didn't find a study that like....I found studies acknowledging that for some people after a few months, they get better. Like even if they started out with long COVID, symptoms will get better, but I didn't actually see numbers about...and I think part of that is that it hasn't been long enough. Margaret 1:01:57 Yeah, totally. Casandra 1:01:58 And even if...so, so I keep comparing this to an autoimmune disease, but they haven't actually said like "This is in fact an autoimmune disease," you know, there are people who say it's because of mast cell activation there are people who say it's actually a neurological issue, like they're still figuring it out. But if in fact it it does function like an autoimmune disease you would need years to see how it actually impacts people because people might have a slower recovery and feel better and then you know, their immune system could be triggered by something and they'll get sick again. So yeah, we just don't know. Casandra 1:02:33 That makes sense. Brooke 1:02:36 So I might not be fatigued and coughing forever is what you're saying? Maybe. Casandra 1:02:42 Yeah. Brooke 1:02:45 Okay, that's good. Casandra 1:02:46 But if you are people are researching the efficacy of low dose Naltrexone Brooke 1:02:51 And I'll get my brain back. Maybe. Casandra 1:02:54 I'd say some percentage of it. Margaret 1:02:57 Have you tried yoga? Casandra 1:03:02 You're actually not supposed to do stretching flexibility things with Ehlers Danlos, that's the antithesis of what you're supposed to do. So, no. Margaret 1:03:14 I hope that as we talked about, people not being able to tell when people are being sarcastic, I hope that I manage that tone. Brooke 1:03:22 Okay, but I need yoga for my PTSD. Now I'm lost. Casandra 1:03:27 You could just try the breathing exercises. Brooke 1:03:30 Okay. Meditation that's the one universal good. Casandra 1:03:32 Yeah. Brooke 1:03:33 Maybe. We'll see the sleep disorder. Casandra 1:03:38 I feel I feel like what we're doing right now is like a small encapsulated version of what these like, chronic illness communities do on a larger scale. And at a certain point, I just, like, have to detach myself because I'm like, everything will harm you. Casandra 1:03:52 How about we talk about other headlines. Casandra 1:03:58 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, I found some fun ones. So, I don't remember exactly what she said. I'm sure anyone on Twitter saw, but Marjorie Taylor Greene was basically like "The country should get a divorce." Like, in my mind is civil war. That's a fun one. Margaret 1:04:19 Yeah, and I, I like that one also, because it's like people talk about like, red states, blue states, and people are like, "Oh, well, you know, Oklahoma is banning trans people. Fortunately, no trans people live there." Like, that's not fucking true. And like, and even from a like, Democrat--Republican binary, the difference between a red state and a blue state is usually about 60/40 one way or the other. Yeah, you know, and like, and that's what people aren't acknowledging. Well, there's a million things people aren't acknowledging. Casandra 1:04:50 Sort of what she wanted, she wanted to...part of that comment she made was about proposing that if people move to a red state from a blue state, they should have a period where they can't vote. which would in fact make it so that they were purely red states. Margaret 1:05:05 That's true. As a....I am not a Democrat, but I live in a red state and I am far worse than what they're afraid of with the Democrats. Yeah. Okay, my fun headline. Are we just doing like one headline back and forth for a moment? Casandra 1:05:23 Yeah. Margaret 1:05:25 Massive floods and mudslides in Brazil killed 36 people leaving 800 people homeless, displacing thousands of people, hitting multiple cities. Just massive fuck off disaster that didn't even make it to my social media headlines. Casandra 1:05:41 That makes me want to message Mena. Margaret 1:05:43 Yeah, not a bad idea to check in with her. Friends. I mean, sometimes it's like, Brazil is a very large country, right, and so like, you know, like, if someone something happens in the Pacific Northwest, and someone, my friend from another country is like, "Are you okay?" Then again, I wouldn't actually be sad at someone for checking in, even if something...whatever, anyway. Casandra 1:06:09 Federal Emergency SNAP benefits are ending March 1. Thanks, Biden. Yeah, for some people, that means the difference between like, $270 a month and $20 a month. It's like, a huge amount of money. Brooke 1:06:24 Yeah, for me, it's the difference between like, being able to just buy the foods I need and knowing there's gonna be enough versus like, having to really pay attention and budget of things to make sure I don't run out by the end of the month. Like it's not it's not even a huge amount of difference for me, but it's enough of like the difference between having to pay close attention and just being able to just buy food like normal. Casandra 1:06:49 Yeah. I've seen a few different posts by food pantry volunteers who are like, "It's already like wild in food pantries. And it's not even March 1 yet." Margaret 1:07:01 Floods in New Zealand killed for at least four people and displace 9000 people. All these headlines, it's like things show up in the head in the news when it happens. And then like this one in New Zealand, it's like, killed at least four people and there's 1300 people unaccounted for. And that article is from a while ago and so I didn't find an updated article. The fact that I didn't find it updated article probably means that 1000 More people didn't die, but was really fucking bad. Brooke 1:07:32 And then there's 9000 people that got displaced and you probably don't know what happened to them and where they went. Margaret 1:07:41 Are we still ping-ponging or should I just go with the rest of mine. Casandra 1:07:45 Oh no, I'll go Walgreens recently caved to Conservative pressure and agreed to stop selling Mifo...I get the full names of miso and mife confused but it's one of them. Margaret 1:07:59 One of the main abortion drugs. Casandra 1:08:01 Yeah, in a pro choice state. Margaret 1:08:06 Wow, in a pro choice? I didn't. Casandra 1:08:08 Oh, yes, it's Kansas, which is a pro choice state, and the you know, in case you needed the added kicker, Mifo is also used for completing miscarriages, so people will not be able to access that drug if they have a miscarriage. At least not in Walgreens. So, you know, change pharmacies if you want. Margaret 1:08:31 Legally Walgreens. Brooke 1:08:34 In Minecraft. Margaret 1:08:35 Ah, in Czarist Russia, that's what I'm pushing for is the new 'In Minecraft'. They cracked Minecraft. Now it's all about Czarist Russia. Warming oceans are cutting into the world's widest glacier. They're cutting like big trenches from the bottom into the world's widest glacier, the Thwaites, ultimately these melting glaciers over the next couple 100 years will likely raise global sea level by 10 feet. Brooke 1:09:04 Is that an Antarctic glacier? Margaret 1:09:07 I don't know. Casandra 1:09:12 I'm assured by a friend who's like a right wing researcher, who isn't right wing but does research into right wing hate groups, that this is probably going to be a non issue, but apparently and Idaho hate group on Telegram has been calling for an 'Antisemitic Day of Hate,' this Shabbat and I have friends in the areas where this is happening who have said that their synagogues are canceling services. Margaret 1:09:37 That fucking bums me out. Economic Research firm Moody's looked at US cities most at risk for combined heat, drought and sea level rise over the next 30 years,, basically like what US cities are going to be most impacted by climate change over the next couple of decades. And the losers are the Bay Area, a whole bunch of Florida, N

Io and Margaret go through the Star Wars narratives, Andor, and Rogue One, and talk about where they overlap historically with real resistance movements, what the narratives are commentating on about current resistance movements, where the representation falls short and generally why the Mon Calamari are the downest people in the universe to have on your side and why they should hangout with Roger Casement. Host Info Io can be found on Twitter @Bum_lung or on Instagram @Bum.Lung or you can find shirts and patches that they make on Etsy at https://www.etsy.com/shop/BumLung Guest Info Margaret can be found on twitter @magpiekilljoy or instagram at @margaretkilljoy. She is also the host of Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff and Live Like the World is Dying Publisher This show is published by Strangers in A Tangled Wilderness. We can be found at www.tangledwilderness.org, or on Twitter @TangledWild and Instagram @Tangled_Wilderness. You can support the show on Patreon at www.patreon.com/strangersinatangledwilderness. Transcript AGPH 1 Mon, Jan 23, 2023 10:18PM • 1:01:05 SUMMARY KEYWORDS fucking, people, revolution, rogue, empire, revolutionary, anarchists, star wars, insurrection, rebellion, shit, kill, big, irish, revolutionary movements, watch, doomed, sergey, throwing, character SPEAKERS Margaret, Io Io 00:45 Star Wars talking about Star Wars Margaret and I Oh, here we are podcast. Hello. Welcome to the anarcho geek Power Hour. It's a it's it's a podcast.We are just trying to do trying to do a fun, fun, fun little podcast for us. Come on this journey. Well, you are we talk about nerd bullshit with all and I got a pal right here and you just heard her and it's Margaret killjoy. Margaret. How's it going? Good. Hello. Um, thanks for having me on as a guest on your show. I'll probably be trying to talk my way into being on this particular show a lot because it's pretty cool premise. Oh, yeah. Cats. Yeah. And anytime door doors always open because we, cuz we're all living on the same fortified mountain compound. So yeah, the general premise of the show is just we're going to talk about nerd bullshit and Ooh, we got one right out right out the gate something. I'm just just over the moon about we got and or That's no moon. Yeah, no, it's a television show. And a fairly good one. Mark. Margaret, what's your what's your background with Star Wars? Margaret 02:07 I grew up not liking it as much as Star Trek to be real. But now that I'm older well actually both both franchises are really hit or miss. But I like a lot of the newer Star Wars stuff. And I particularly like Rogue One. So I was particularly excited about andorre Samah you well. Yeah, more more or less. Same though. Io 02:30 You know what, let's scale that back. I am captured by Star Wars. Star Wars has my ass for life because I like it for the same reasons. I like like the Ramones, like because I grew up with it and it's stupid and it's stupid and simple and it's easy and that's why I liked it. I'll watch I'll watch all that garbage. And would you believe they made a good they made a good Star War not just a good Star War but a good show about my favorite shit which is morally complicated resistance movements. It really is kind of a a gift specifically to you but to probably half the people listening to this too. Yeah, if you haven't well if you haven't seen Andora highly recommended pause pause this podcast and and returned to it. Maybe someday but go watch and because we are going to talk about spoilers Io 03:27 Yeah, the whole premise basically it's in a star war. You got your you got your Jedi you got your space lasers. Between all the all the Banthas and the R two D tos and the GES music you forget that the plot is about a rebellion and finally they're fucking doing something with it. I grew up really into Star Wars it was like my first it was my first fantasy sci fi anything and I read a lot of the extended universe which is no longer canon. Chewbacca is no longer canonically killed by a planet which is a real shame Margaret 04:06 when did they when did they retcon at all when did they take the extended universe out Io 04:11 when Mickey Mouse got his hands all over this franchise? None of that no, we're not dealing with any of that shit. So they just pick and choose the stuff from the extended universe they want to fuck with and some of it stays some of it when it's all it's all Calvin Ball in in the galaxy now but um yeah, even in the extended universe before though there were a few like really great like the Han Solo trilogy it's been you know, like a decade but I remember it really, really fucking whipping and these Margaret 04:48 are the books right? Yes, the books Io 04:53 and a couple of others deal with like, the rebellion but not not like not like This not and we're not going to. Well, Margaret, I don't know about you. I'm not here to argue that Rogue One is anarchists propaganda. Margaret 05:10 No one might argue that Andorra's bar anarchists propaganda. Io 05:13 Oh, yeah. Okay, well, I'm not here to argue and endorse anarchists propaganda made by made by the Mickey Mouse Corporation, but me as an anarchist and I'm really fucking enjoying it. And I just, I was trying to get everybody into this for so long because it's like, obviously coming from this place of knowledge of the continuum of revolutionary movements the writer said he was influenced by like Palestine and the Russian Revolution and the Haitian revolution. We watched Rogue one the other day, and you pointed out why does everyone have the slightest Irish Burr? I think because they were also influenced, especially in the funding about, especially in like the Mon Mothma funding of like, the Irish revolution, but okay, but yeah, let's, let's, let's get into it, get into it. We both recently finished. And or what do you think overall, Margaret 06:12 I liked it. And I'm kind of, I mean, I'll watch junk TV, you know, because life is short, and why not spend my short life watching it. Okay, I don't have a really good excuse for why I watch drunk TV. But I will happily watch drunk TV, if, you know when I need to turn my brain off or whatever. And so I kind of like go into almost any TV show sort of expecting that. And then instead, I found like, actual depth and like, a less one or two dimensional resistance movement than I see. Basically, anytime I watch, especially TV, but movies as well, like resistance movements are so always clearly painted by people who've never either read history or threw a rock at a cop. You know, and like, I don't want to make any criminal accusations towards anyone involved in writing this, but I will guess they've at least read history. If not throwing a rock at a cop. Yeah, there's toxic cops, kids. It's I'll do whatever you want. Io 07:13 I'll say it I got I got less the loose. Go empire. Yeah, yeah, fight the Empire. Everybody. Subscribe to our Patreon so you can see the video of me doing hand quotes Io 07:32 Yeah, it is a there's dimension in it that I was not expecting from Star Wars. I was and I didn't really expect from, from anything. It's like writing writing is a hard job being able to like Express, like the moral complexity of a of a gorilla. What a gorilla sell who's gonna go rob go rob a big bank on some on some fucking planet. But they did it they pull they pull it off really? Well. Margaret 08:10 Yeah. Tell me about tell me about the how this relates to the funding of the Irish revolution. I don't know if the other direction they want to take this but like, I'd be really interested in like, some of the more obvious or some of the historical parallels that we've picked up on. And I I would love to hear more about that. Io 08:31 I was noticing the fact that they had Mon Mothma up in the mix who is a character from the original Star Wars who's the one who's sort of she says many Bothans died bring in this as these plans and she's always given the given the spiel and bringing her back as like someone who's down for like she's not she's not involved, obviously. But she's like, doing whatever she can to like get the money to these people who are off fucking Killing cops across the galaxy. While still like sitting pretty in high society and like working in parliament in this in this very like subdued liberal way that is like toeing the line in a way that a lot of especially like Irish representation in England was and even in some English representation in England was and like it's definitely like No, there's nothing that's a one to one on on Pandora and I wouldn't say that but like the way the IRA and the like pre Ira revolutionary movements funded themselves with a lot from the Irish diaspora who like made it big in Boston and New York sending money back or, or straight up sending boats full of guns back. Okay, to see, to see not only the like the scrappy people in the woods, ready to do whatever For and the shadowy Stellan Skarsgard who I would love to get into because I I love the whole Skarsgard brood but still and especially to see not only the like the cloak and dagger part of things but the be able to have some fuckin Game of Thrones political intrigue was Yeah, was very fun. Margaret 10:27 Okay well and to go and continue with the Irish fundraising thing I'm sure someone out there fortunately I don't live in the parts of the Internet where people complain about the shit is like complaining that like two of our primary revolutionaries are in a gay relationship right? And you know two women who are who are dating and you know the tension in their relationship based on which one prioritizes love and which one prioritizes revolution but someone somewhere is like, Oh, they're making all these people gay or whatever it is no gay revolutionaries in history. First of all, it's like, obviously bullshit. But in terms of the Irish revolution, one of these such a good example of a character who does actually feel kind of a an and or Star Wars characters to some you heard of Roger Casement, the gay Irish night. If anyone's listening, there's this guy named Roger Casement, who was a big part of bringing down King Leopold from Belgium, the fucking monster who murdered millions and whatever is one of the worst on all of history of historical ghoul. Yeah, and there's just so there was this like, colonial Irish guy who was like part of the English colonization of Africa. And he was like, Oh, I'm on the wrong team, like absolutely on the wrong team. And he got like, really into Irish nationalism, as well as working really hard to fight against the exploitation of Africa and South America, actually. And then he like, went and spent his life and lost his life smuggling guns into Ireland for the for the Easter Rising, and he was so fucking gay. Just so completely, tragically gay. And I don't know, he feels like a very Star Wars character. I guess he's not again, he's not one for one. But yeah, these but he was part of the English establishment. He was a fucking Knight, you know? Io 12:15 Yeah. And there was plenty of those. I mean, in every, in every movement, you know, death to the bourgeoisie, whatever, whatever. But who you can get a lot done if you if you know it, if you know in your heart, what's right and your positions. And just as an as an aside, because I it because it wouldn't, it wouldn't do to zero in on this, but maybe on a later episode. Definitely on a later episode. But there Yeah, yeah, the queers have been in every revolutionary movement in the early in the 19th century, there's a quote from somebody from some open, openly queer person that says, if you want to be yourself, you go find the anarchists. Margaret 12:57 Yeah, I can't remember whose that quote is from. Yeah, no, totally. And, and so it makes sense that I really liked that we've entered a stage of gay representation in Hollywood or whatever, mainstream TV where it's not like the shocker. I mean, there's a little bit they play a little bit on the leg, oh, they're gay, but only like, the tiniest little bit, and no one is upset by it, you know, and that's nice. Io 13:23 Yeah, and I it's a little bit of a hobby horse of mine that I the great meaty, the big media establishment knows that. By and large, the people consuming things like liberal culture is very ascendant in, in media, we'll see how long that lasts, but they know that, you know, representation or whatever, like cells, you can sell a terrible movie on the concept of representation when you put a diverse cast that they're like, the right mushroom and, and the, and the people making the decisions are still Lily whites and straight, but they all they'll sell it to you with whatever. And Star Wars very famously was like, we got a gay kiss in this one. And it's like two women kissing in the background, very easy to edit out for whatever international audiences wouldn't allow something like that. They're like, dogshit this one where they don't, it's not a big deal. It's just a fact. It's not Yeah, it's just a fact of it, that they that they are lovers in a, in a struggle together and the tension being that like you said, one is market is not more committed to the cause, but like the relationship is is eclipsed by the cause certainly. Yeah. Is like like a great a great tension to play with and I'm excited to see like they at least have a season to play around with. Margaret 14:58 Yeah, I mean, it's kind of funny watching this because Just like well, you know how the characters end up? Like, yeah, you know, you know that andorre isn't ending up with Beck's in any way that like, at least like in any way that is worth note in, in Rogue One, you know? And then also, spoiler, they're all going to die. Well, at least at least Cassie and Endor is okay, well, my other historical parallel that I want to draw that I've been like thinking about a whole bunch since I saw it, there's this whole trope within it, and I really am curious to see what they'll do with it. I'm afraid they'll do it badly. But so far, they've kind of earned my trust more than most things. There's this thing about authoritarianism on the rebel side, right? There's this tension. I am incapable of remembering names. You've got your head honcho. Revolutionary guy, right. Who is the doomed revolutionary? What's his name? Skarsgard. luthan. Yeah, that's the actor's name. Io 15:59 The one who's who's a antique seller. Margaret 16:03 Yeah, you don't remember his name either. luthan. Something? Okay. luthan. So, you've got Lutheran and he is the tragic leader. And he specifically refers to himself as doomed at one point. And I think that this is probably consciously a reference to Catechism of the revolutionary bias organic net chef. And so again, that chef was this. This Russian revolutionary nihilist who actually if you want to hear me and I would talk about search, Sergey net, you have listened to my episode of cool people that have cool stuff on the Russian nihilists. Io 16:39 Find it anywhere you find podcasts, folks. Margaret 16:43 Yeah. And I fucking hate this guy, historical guy, Sergey, like he is trash. And he is absolutely the kind of guy who will get his friends arrested on purpose in order to advance the cause without asking their permission or telling them what's happening, right. And I think he has like, lost his ethics in what he's doing. And his whole thing he writes this book called Catechism of the revolutionary that is the revolutionary is a doomed man is one of the main concepts of this book, in which basically like, you don't have friends, you don't have lovers. You have the revolution and you will die. And it has like a romance to it has like a beauty to it. Right? I think fundamentally, it's a flawed concept. But what's really interesting to me is that in in andorre, you have a character who I believe is a conscious reflection of the Sergey model, although Sergey was not actually the leader of revolution he wanted to be but he was a fucking whatever he was also tried guy who fucking killed his own side more than he killed the other side and all around sucked. And so So luthan is almost this like, the positive incarnation of a Skynet ship so far, in that he's doomed. And he makes the hard calls and stuff. But he's not quite a fully authoritarian leader. You know, there's a couple points where he gives people full information and lets them make their own decisions. His assistant whose name I also don't remember clearly has a can exert a certain amount of power over him. He's not quite a dictator. And he's clearly tormented by the fact that in some ways, he is a dictator of, of the revolution. And the thing that I find interesting, almost some of his rant, and I'm really curious are your thoughts about it? The thing I find really interesting about it is how it compares to the manifesto that were being presented by the dead kid. Io 18:35 And he made the mix the fucking hot the hot space, the space twink the crime the crime think loving little revolution, the crime Margaret 18:44 prank. Yeah, the crime twink. Who rules and I love his character, because he's like, afraid, but he like does it anyway, even though it literally kills him. Like that is something to aspire to. I mean, I want to survive. Io 18:59 It's I aspire to be crushed by a metaphor for galactic capital myself. Yeah, Margaret 19:06 exactly. And in his manifesto, that we start exploring right at the end of the season, he talks about the enemy specifically as authority in a way that like, this is why earlier I was like, I will go to bat a little bit about andorre being anarchists propaganda, but only a little bit, right. But it's not the enemy isn't the Empire. The enemy has authority in what he what he is writing. And I'm wondering whether this will cause conflict in future episodes, or whether they kind of in this case mean authority mean like biggle authority like the Empire, not like scars, scars character, but I I'm really excited about that tension. I'm really excited to see what they do with it. Io 19:51 Yeah, me too. I love that he has his little his little monologue that beautiful, beautiful monologue. I've made my mind into a Unless place and I I work for a sunrise that I will never see and again for what I do and I'll and all that shit as he's talking to this this guy who infiltrated the the Empire to give them all information and he's prepared to preparing to sacrifice a squad of like nine people on his team just so the Empire doesn't get wise. Margaret 20:26 It's like 30 people I think it's a bunch of people up Io 20:31 to too many people. I'll I'll go ahead and say it. But yeah, he he does represent that very, like the revolutionary isn't doomed man. thing in a more competent braver way than, than that fucker. Yeah. But I love it. It's more, it's really, I mean, revolutions are morally complex, you're not going to get out of them with your hands clean. And I like that they're not like the original theory of the original Star Wars. Is, is Past is past the point where there's nothing you where the Rebellion has been built up. But to organize something at that scale in a galaxy of apathetic, or unorganized or unmotivated people is, is going to be a fucked process, especially when he's like, Yeah, we want, we want the Empire reacting, we want them. We want them cracking down and making people's lives miserable, like OB like, yeah, like, obviously, fuck that. And but acts of insurrection are going to make your enemy crack down in that way. And he's, he's preparing for that eventuality. Margaret 21:58 Yeah. So he once again, is presenting this like, like, there's a version of him that he could be like, full on accelerationist, right. accelerationism being the concept of like, kind of making things worse, so that people realize they're bad, and then try and make things better or whatever. Right. And, and he absolutely, he makes several statements about how like, look, it's going to get worse, right? But he's not quite so far. It's not like he's quite making things bad on purpose, so much as he's not stopping them from getting bad. And to me, and maybe I'm just like, I want to like him. Talk about luthan here. Yeah. But to me, this is a really big important difference, right? Like, people have been making the claim that you shouldn't do anything disruptive, because it'll like look bad. Or even more than that, it'll cause the police to crack down, right. And that claim stops people from resisting quite often, because realistically, people don't want bad things to happen. That's why we're interested in fictitional representations of revolution, is because we want a better world for our Star Wars characters. And since we want a better world, we want to take certain actions to try and get a better world. But when you turn it into a fight, the other side's gonna fight to. And so, you know, I don't think that it is ethically on the person who throws a brick at a window. I don't believe it is on them, the police crackdown on to resistance movements that could result from that write ethically, there's all kinds of arguments that people can make different ways about this. I think throwing the brick to make things worse, is fucked up. But I think throwing the brick, because it is the best expression in the best way that you are able to choose what to do when the Empire puts that moral weight on us as potential rebels and says it's your fault that we are hitting you. That is like, I mean, it's abuse of logic, and it's a real fucked up thing. And like, you know, you get into this like the very the climax of the entire season. Is that this kid who I have a shitty memory I think maybe his dad got killed by the Empire throws a bomb at the very end. And they did a what's good? Yeah, he does a hey, market for anyone who wants to listen to that episode about the market. And so first episode ever of cool people do cool stuff in which someone throws a bomb at some cops when the cops had been really fucked up and the cops opened fire and it causes this whole big fucking thing. Right? And, and I'm not mad at that kid. Was it the right move? I've literally no idea. Right and the world will never know whether or not it was the right idea because we only get the one thing that we saw happen. Yeah, I'm always Io 24:48 I'm almost 100% of the time on people who have the bravery to try. Try some shit and the others side, like the fascist playbook is to use our conscience against us for for in a in a Stop hitting yourself type of way. Margaret 25:12 Yeah. Io 25:14 That is not. Yeah, you can't. Like I can't imagine somebody even having the foresight to being like, Oh, I'm going to do this because it'll make it worse. But the argument of just like, what will the news say if this happened, or that this that and you're not going to get you're going to turn people off from our side is this is has, has failed for has failed for centuries? Now. Margaret 25:42 I will say, though, I don't sorry, look, Io 25:44 I just don't want to fuck with it anymore. Margaret 25:49 But I think of as an ethical argument, it is like a, I think it is a bad ethical argument to say like that that kid should have thrown the bomb, right in, in this fictional Star War that we're talking about. I don't care about the ethical argument against that. But if you're throwing a bomb at the oppressive force that is busy oppressing you, your conscience is clear. From my point of view, right? The strategic question is where it gets really interesting. And is it a good idea? Is a very different question from is it? justifiable? You know? And that's where it gets into, like, really messy stuff where it's like, well, that's just hard to know. I mean, the history of people killing tyrants in on Earth is a real mixed bag. Right, in terms of its efficacy, Io 26:43 it tends to assassinations do tend to have a tendency to get messy. Margaret 26:48 Yeah. And often, they make everything worse. And not just in a like, everything has to get worse before it gets better way. But sometimes it's like, no, everything just sucks now. And everything. Io 27:00 But but the extent situation was analysis was like unsustainable something. Yeah. Like, no one, no one can predict how things will play out. But there was a chance that they could have could have gone well, and if, if nothing else, you sure you've shown power to be vulnerable? Yeah. Which, which echoes through history? And I don't know, I guess the I guess that's a bigger question that we can keep getting into, but to bring it back into, into and or a little bit. Uh huh. As as for numix Little manifesto, every act of insurrection pushes our lines forward? Margaret 27:51 Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. No, go on. Yeah, and they even use the term insurrection there. Right. Yeah. Which is like, Io 28:01 they got there. They get so explicit. I didn't expect them to. Margaret 28:04 I know, a manifesto for pure Io 28:07 rocks. Margaret 28:09 I know and like, and it's specifically like, I'm with I think it's Kropotkin I don't know I actually just mostly, I don't always read all of the, the old books by the people. I used to read books about the people. But you know, dead anarchists. Pokken I think it was him who was like, why do we have this like dichotomy between insurrection and revolution? It might have been Malatesta one of these fucking dead anarchists was like, What a useless dichotomy between insurrection revolution, like revolutions are made up of like, insurrections, that's what you know, as compared to this legging. You know, the traditional way presenting the dichotomy is that you need to have, you know, on a purely insurrection aside, like all that matters is the insurrection the larger overarching goal is not worth attempting to accomplish, or setting your sights on, right. And then on the purely revolutionary side, it's like, Oh, don't do the insurrections because they'll diffuse our energy or the wake the sleeping dragon or they'll, you know, cause the cops to crack down on us or whatever, right? All that matters is building up the mass to have the one big, glorious revolution. And like, history, at least the history of revolution is like no, no, no insurrections or that manifesto is right, like an andorre. They want to have a revolution. What that revolution should look like there is not a agreement upon which kind of rules Io 29:34 Oh, that's the bet that's the best part of the show when he when he goes to me. Saga reira mine yeah, man. The cool yeah, the cool guy. He's talking about so anarchist. Yeah, I don't, I don't I'm I'm not gonna fuck with that guy. He's a he's a human supremacist, and those guys are separatists for et cetera, et cetera. And they're there. I'm the only one Just think pure ideology here. Yeah. And I'm like, Yeah, I've been in a room with him. Margaret 30:06 Yeah, totally. But his, but then they say his ideologies like, well, anarchy is not an ideology or I don't remember the actual quote. Io 30:15 Yeah. And his response is just a shrug because like, Whatever dude, I'm not, I'm not here to convince you. I'm off. He's on. Maybe Maybe I'm just projecting what I want to see. But he's on the like, yeah, you know, there's there's action and then there's whatever other useless surrounds what, what action is being taken? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, he's right. Yeah. Well, this is all like laying this ideological bedrock that eventually morphs into the same neoliberal government that easily falls to Deathstar. Three and Force Awakens. Like you've got we can keep on this but maybe we should talk about Rogue One and in a second because we just watched that a few nights ago, like the early days of a revolution are ya so spicy? Margaret 31:15 Yeah, that's when I like everything is still possible. And but to use Sagar era to tie us into Rogue One, you know, by the time Rogue One comes around saga gara is basically just like the terrorist who's still like, who's still just been like, No, I know where the Empire is. So I'm gonna fuck them up. You know? He's not like trying to think like fourth dimensional chess or whatever he's just trying to fuck up the Empire and like I think that fucking rules and I think that yeah, I I like him. I mean, obviously by the time Rogue One comes around he's like his neuro divergence has continued in a way that makes him probably unsuitable to be a leader have Io 32:02 a bit of a Chase had a hard he's had a hard go of it. Margaret 32:05 Yeah, he is. He does not mind revolutionary suicide. He is perfectly content with revolutionary suicide. By the time he gets his chance. Io 32:15 Yeah, how Yeah, how could you not and they the plot of Rogue One is they need to get close to Sagar era they so they break. I forget her. I forget her name. The main the main character of the movie. Yeah. To get her close to saw because they want they just want to kill sock cats there. Because he's making them look bad, essentially. Yeah. And because they're developing into Yeah, like liberal revolutionaries hmm And so and saw is still is still out there on Jetta. Just just like stealing shit from the Empire blow blowing shit up. They can't get to him. Margaret 33:00 When I thought they were there to kill him. They thought they were there to kill protagonist, dad. And they just needed to get to saw in order to find out what protagonist dad was. Io 33:10 Like, right before they and or gets on the ship. There. They're just like, Alright, remember that thing that we told her? Fuck that no kit when you see saw Calum? Oh, I think that though, I think maybe they do the same thing with Matt's Matt's Mickelson's character. Margaret 33:27 Okay, so that ties into what you're talking about, about. You've got into like, hard choices guy luthan. Right. And he's presented as like, the real radical in in andorre. But it's the same attitude of kill people who are making us look bad because you're thinking about the big picture that leads us into the liberal state stage of revolution that you're talking about right where they you know, are just going to end up being like the sort of like less interested in revolution revolutionary movement and I think that those are related I think that the cold hard calculating leader is absolutely the person who's going to be like alright kill saw All right, kill protagonists dad. Because because they think they're thinking about strategy instead of ethics. And I know ethics is like a word that people have a million different thoughts and feelings about but like what I mean like doing what's right, rather than like, what is believed to be the most strategic I think is and that's what I like about saw is he does what's right which is fight the Empire. Yeah, Io 34:35 I see him as an ideological insurrectionary anarchist and luthan as just a straight up insurrectionary who, like a like an insurrectionary who wants to get extremely Sun Tzu about it all. Margaret 34:51 Yeah. So if I can, I mean a nihilist in like the Russian sense not in the like anarchist sense, you know? Because It's not a coincidence that most of the Russian nihilists were like Social Democrats at heart. Maybe that's getting a little too off. So, Io 35:08 yeah, like I don't I do see I see a lot of people trying to square this to as like Disney published like anarchists propaganda that's like this and that and I'm like, I don't think they did that it's it's in its set in outer space. It's it's a thing, but it's obviously made by people who like, give a shit about these things like and like you and me care about, like the historical stories and context of revolutionary movements. Yeah. And it's from its from that perspective of people who like who are interested in also think it's just think that fighting cops is the coolest thing you can do with your life? Yeah, and making a show about cool people fighting cops, and that is cool to me. Yeah. But uh, do you want to do you want to talk a little bit about about Rogue One? Sure. So well, I guess we were I guess we were already kind of kind of on it. Saw he lives in the holy holy city of Jeddah where the Jedi began as a society of monks and they were guardians against galactic tyranny and fascism, but eventually became a liberal military arm of the Republic or whatever the fuck, and a bunch of other shit happens, but where I think, oh, where this movie really starts screaming is you get to this fucking this stupid. General Assembly is suddenly ready to pack it up. Because suddenly they're up against these overwhelming odds and like, you remember that? That nerd? This fucking nerd shouts What is she proposing? And everyone's just like, oh gosh, crumbs? Well, I guess I guess we're done for packet in everybody. But luckily we plucky heroes. This platoon of doomed men who say fuck this they go rogue because a man with nothing to lose in a sharp stick can take the day and they're the last chance to to save the galaxy to do some overwhelming violence against the Empire against and go against all this bureaucratic cowardice is just a big they all pack into one shitty spaceship. Huddled bunch of cuddle puddle revolutionary saying fuck it life sucks book the Empire. Let's do a cool suicide. And do they Margaret 37:42 wanted to get out? I'm sure they did. Yeah, Io 37:46 they do. It was not. It was not likely. And yeah, it wasn't for this. This is a part of canon. This is the part of the Extended Universe candidate that has transferred over the Mon Calamari you all know Admiral Ackbar it's a trap, etc. Um, that that planets and and race of like people involved in the rebellion are like the most ready to throw down. And I'm glad that that transferred over a Rogue One. Everyone else is just like, beans. Well, I guess the Empire wins. And Mon Calamari was like, Oh, we've got Rogue One. Awesome. Love those guys. Margaret 38:30 Totally. I mean, and that's why I like Rogue One so much right? Yeah. As because you have your doomed revolutionary cuddle puddle that goes off to go do massive violence and steal some plans. And then the like, solidarity that it will kill you is like what breaks my heart more than anything else. If you want to see me cry in a movie, like the second Lord of the Rings movie when the right of the row Hyrum went Rohan shows up to support condor is a safe space for nerd for being a nerd. So when when they roll up, and they yell a red day, a blood day and it's actually this Norse maybe not Norse is the Scandinavian poem. That's the Tolkien's ripping off but it's fucking beautiful. And then they like scream like death death death and then like run charging into the forces of Mordor. Right? To have the backs of Condor that's when I start crying the most consistently in in The Lord of the Rings trilogy. And so Rogue One operates on the similar principle of the like, Well fuck it, I guess will show up like like sometimes when all your friends are jumping off a bridge like you should probably show up to support them anyway. You know? And like, Io 39:48 would you rather die all at once rather than piece by piece? Margaret 39:52 Yeah, yeah, totally. Which is you know from and or, and then there's also a quote from Blackhawks speaks, which I haven't read in a long time and so I Um, I apologize for possibly paraphrasing this badly but in the war against the colonization of what later became the United States or whatever, right? You know, a bunch of people are sitting around being like, well, we should go to war against these fucking white invaders. And someone is like, No, we shouldn't write because it's useless. If we do it, we'll die. It's like killing mosquitoes. You can kill them, but they keep coming in. There's, there's no point to it. And then the rest of the council is like, alright, well, we're doing it. And this isn't fiction. This is a nonfiction piece. And, and the same guy who was like, well, we shouldn't do this as like, well, I'm coming with you. Because I'm not a coward. You know, and I, I really like that concept within Rogue One. The like, well, this isn't how we wish it had gone. This wasn't what we planned. But we're not going to fucking just let you go out and do there. On your own. We're not cowards. Obviously, some of the people in that council chamber were cowards. Yeah, a Io 40:59 lot of people didn't show up. And I think a lot of other people were invested in the in the assembly or didn't invested in the in building an army against the Empire, rather than we can get we can really get a lot done with some sabotage. We can get a lot done with with a plucky group of fuckers. Yeah, just plop it plopping down and, and putting on some weird uniforms. Margaret 41:31 Yeah. And it, it was considered right. Like, I think a lot of what we're talking about about like, insurrections are what pushed us forward. You know, it wasn't like, like, let's just, I know, where we can go throw a bomb, let's just go throw a bomb randomly. They were like, What are we going to do? You know, like, the first big action and AND, OR is like, we're gonna steal all this money because we need it. Right. And so all of the actions have a purpose, they tie into a strategy and I love. That's one of the things I love about Rogue One, right? It's like, you know, all right, well, against all odds, we're gonna go get the Deathstar plans. You know, rather than just we're gonna go explode a thing, because the Empire has lots of things. You know, Io 42:22 I got a lot, they got lots of things. And I'm, I think that I think that there's a, there's a poetry in an affirmation of life in attacking something symbolically. But yeah, what you've got, you got a symbol and a rush of adrenaline and a, and a huge danger to yourself and everyone else around you, if you're going to put some danger out there. Be sure of it. And I don't know, maybe, maybe have some maybe have a little bit more more payoff? Yeah. Yeah, like, in Minecraft? Margaret 43:00 It's totally like, in Star Wars, you should, you know, think about like, if you're gonna gamble at all, you should wait till the pot is sweet. I don't know, whatever. Yeah, no, it's Io 43:15 go bigger, go big, and then go home. Margaret 43:18 Yeah. Through your safe house. I do think that the Star Wars rebellion in general, does relate to a style of revolution that is less the style of revolution that I would guess the average person listening to this, like, thinks about, like, the history that they're drawing from, at least based on what you were saying is like, national rebellions for against an oppressive outside force, right. You know, we haven't seen we've seen revolutionaries on the capital planet, but we haven't seen them being like, here's how we're going to take the Capitol planet, you know, as ours, right, because we're from here, whatever. Instead, you see all of these colonized forces, these colonized people, being like, we don't want to be colonized anymore. So we're now in this alliance of all these colonized people to fight against this oppressive force. Io 44:12 Oh, that's just another thing that I like. I like a lot about andorre in that the end of the end of row of not row one of A New Hope is just this like, Lily, this this Dyess of of lily white heroes of the rebellion that might as well be out of like Triumph of the Will and like cheering and Chewbacca doesn't get a medal. I know that's well trod territory, but like, justice for my man AND and OR has very few white characters making up the the core of the rebellion. Margaret 44:57 Yeah, yeah. And just under this funny problem that we're running into, from a cultural point of view that all of a sudden we're watching all these prequels, right? Or at least like I watched the game of thrones show, the new one house of dragons. And I liked it. I liked it a lot. I liked it possibly more than I like Game of Thrones. I've literally no idea what that's a statement that drew everyone mad at me or not. Io 45:20 And dragons. You can't argue with that. Margaret 45:23 Yeah, and it's less white. It's still majority white. But it is like markedly less white. And there's something kind of depressing about watching these prequels that are less white. Io 45:35 Something very, something very bad must have happened between then and then. Margaret 45:40 Yeah, even though what we're actually watching of course, is that, you know, the media that better choices getting made. Yeah, exactly. I don't know just something I think about when I watch that kind of shit. Io 45:55 This one This one sort of maps to my, you know, my, my, my headcanon of like, obviously, it's just the casting choices are better now. But it also maps to like successful revolutions. And especially like the one that installs like Princess Leia, Princess into like, royalty into positions of power in like a new Neo lib chorus on seated government eventually were like the people who did the dirty work saga Pereira and Andorra and whoever else are long forgotten, we're just we're all just cannon fodder for this respectable and hard they they fought hard, but they but they were put in an impossible position but like let the let the lower castes get their hands dirty in a way that every successful revolution winds up winds up doing which is why like, like, you know, I'm obviously interested in in a in massive change but the thing that really interests me is not the end result but the the process the affirmation of life of being able to resist in your modern day and live for Me and artistically. But just live rebelliously in the time you are in not for some far off future not what am I supposed to do put put all my put all my fucking plans and morals on hold because I hope that the the proletarian revolution is going to come off some way. Come on, come around. If I if I just joined enough DSA chapters. Here's your sign. Margaret 47:52 I mean, I feel like andorre gets into this kind of stuff in a useful way with the whole prison sequence, right? Where they're in prison or Prison Break. I know and so they're all in prison and they're all doing prison labor. And, you know, is a brutal regime very controlled, it does the thing where like, part of the systems of control it's very panopticon ish, like, part of the systems that control is also that the, I guess in that Fukui way or whatever, right where like people are controlling themselves because they, you know, the prisoners are in charge of the prisoners on some level. Right. Io 48:32 And you got Gollum is the boss. Margaret 48:37 Yeah, and oh, I thought you were telling me we watch this together. I thought you were telling me that the really old guy was Gollum. Io 48:47 The no Andy Serkis. The other prisoners the guy who did mocap for for the one who literally literally call them I wasn't making I wasn't being ageist. Margaret 49:02 But I thought you were saying the old man was the person who did the motion capture for Gollum. Io 49:06 Oh, he used to be very spry. Margaret 49:10 Okay, okay. I mean, so, so go we all you know and and so, you know, so you have Gollum who is the sergeant essentially, he was telling everyone what to do on the cellblock. And then as soon as they know that they're doomed men. They're able to be free. Right? And as a very literal metaphor in this particular context, that as soon as and then the fact that they're like, What is freedom mean? Freedom means jumping into the water even if you can't swim and trying. Right? Is a very non subtle, and they just express it as beautiful. They just have this beautiful scene of everyone jumping in the water. They don't have a grandeur. land they don't hold the guards hostage in order to get I mean to be clear might have been smarter if they had held the gods hostage in order to get like an escape vehicle but whatever Io 50:09 oh they would they would they would have just bought bombed the planet. Margaret 50:13 I know mainly but yeah, that's true. That's you know, like, Io 50:16 like modern you know, a modern prison uprising will hold Guards, guards hostages for the sake of like the people who are holding the guards hostage hostage are going to get extra years on their mobile a ton of extra time on their sentence, if not outright killed by it, but could win could wind up winning better conditions for people inside I don't have I don't have faith that prison officials were uphold their end of the bargain. But yeah, a resistant resistance is is beautiful, no matter. The end result somebody somebody slipped Andy Serkis a copy of blesses the flame. And they're all like, fuck it. Let's go. Yeah, no, let's go for a dive. Margaret 51:06 Totally. And like the ones who die immediately while throwing a wrench at the second armed guard are just as like beautiful and free as the people who swim to safety, you know? And like? No, I really like that whole long extended metaphor that they did around what it means to just actually be free. Which is why I do hold that. The I don't know. I mean, I guess the real question would be to know the writers and you know, because like, people talk about, oh, Disney made this like, no, no, Disney didn't make this Disney put their name on it. It was made by people in the same way that like workers make all value. You know, the the writers and the actors and the directors and all of these people like made and or? And yeah, exactly. So I don't know I don't know where I'm going with that. But Io 52:08 we'll I had a if you want to if you want to think about it a bit I had. I wish I could remember who said this so I would credit them but somebody put out that when Disney was making was making the Lion King and Pocahontas at the same time, they put all their stock into Pocahontas and really micromanage the entire project. I've never seen Pocahontas it sounds like it's a decent movie. But Lion King undoubtedly turned out awesome. Because the because all the writers and artists involved got creative control of it because they didn't have they didn't have Walt over their shoulder the whole time. Same thing happened with Star Wars because Andorra was being developed at the same time that Obi Wan Kenobi, A, A and nobody, and nobody asked me, but the show was good. I did not have a good time watching goon McGregor do his thing again. But yeah, they really micromanage that and they were just like a thing that's like rogue wants share proceed and makes me a little nervous about season two because they'll see that this is is like it and I read I don't really know much about the writers I know that they were interested in like Palestinian resistance and the Haitian Revolution and things like that, which you can see in the show and that the next season is going to get more into like the the ship that I was so excited about, which was like the internal politics of rebellions like I would love I would love to see saw Guerrera talk some more shit about about space to Kunis or whatever. But yeah, yeah, fingers fingers crossed, they'll they'll realize that it was successful because they didn't get their fucking fingerprints all over it. Margaret 54:02 Well, maybe next year, we'll be sitting down to do another episode and we'll be we'll know whether or not everything went to hell or whether it pulled it off. Io 54:12 You'd be like No, they weren't they brought a AR two d two is there for some reason. That's another that's another great thing about this. Like it was like I think it's great because the rebellion never really got its do it's like the entire plot of Star Wars and nobody ever really like fucks with it. It's just like the just like the scenery. But also we don't have we don't have to hear anything about space lasers and the Jedi and Mother I guess there is a wisecracking droid, but I love that little guy. Margaret 54:48 Yeah, nice. And he's, I don't know. I mean, you need the wisecrack. Enjoy in the same way that you need. The animal who sits around and tells jokes or you know, whatever like that is a good is a good character that gets added to TV and movies. Yeah, bring up at Ewoks. But it still was like, way more. I mean, it's essentially it's it's more proletarian than like, we're working class or whatever jargon word I supposed to use here. Instead of like space nights and space princesses and space royalty and you know, all that shit. It's just like, fucking people in the muck getting it done. Io 55:28 Yeah the space the space serfs out there, perfectly capable of braiding a stormtrooper? Yeah. As good as Luke Luke Skywalker. Yeah. Well, I think we did it. We talked about everything AND and OR. But, Margaret, any final thoughts? Margaret 55:46 I'm just, I'm excited for the quality of the storytelling that we like now have available to us as we go forward, because the world is in very dire conditions right now. And we need better stories are so little Gwen has the story of is the quote about like, we need authors who can remember freedom, you know, and I think that we're like, we're starting to see those stories. And we're starting to see him, including in mainstream places. And I think that's like one of the most promising things that I've ever seen as a radical or whatever. So I'm excited. Who knows, maybe it'll all go off the rails, but for now, is good. Io 56:28 There will always be small examples and whether it erupts soon. Being that freedom as a pure idea, or we just have to keep settling for these little diamonds in the rough. I don't know. I'm excited. Yeah, there does seem to be a lot more good stuff recently. But that's us. That's the anarcho geek review. We did it folks. Margaret 56:52 In our cooking, or our Io 56:54 that's the one. That's what Margaret 56:58 this is where anyone is listening. We used to have a blog called a narco geek review. And that's not what this show is called. Io 57:07 No, not related to the anarcho geek review. We disavow we Margaret 57:12 know that Reza vacco splitters they're split out yeah, we've Io 57:17 split we split off from them. They were ideologically unserious. Yeah. Margaret, you want to tell people where where they can find you? Margaret 57:27 Yeah, I've got some podcast once called cool people did cool stuff. I referenced it like three times this article, I asked to talk about individual and community preparedness on another podcast by the same strangers network called live like the world is dying. And until well, by the time you listen to this, I might not be on Twitter anymore, but I'm currently on Twitter at Magpie killjoy Instagram at Margaret killjoy all that shit. I Oh, what about you? Io 57:53 I'm, as of this recording, still still on Twitter, at bum lung. And I'm also on Instagram at bum lung. And if I get on any other social media fingers crossed, they won't have to. It'll probably be under that as well. And before we go, I would I would love to thank we have a Patreon patreon.com/strangers In a tangled wilderness and I would love to thank some of our Patreon supporters. Right now. Hoss the dog. That's a good boy. Mike, aka mkhaya Kaya, thank you. Like I Margaret 58:33 say yeah. Oh, actually. Actually, that's funny. That's right MC. Mikayla, actually my a veteran, right. Make Io 58:42 that McCain or mkhaya. Please settle this bet and whichever one wins I was the other a coke. Chris Sam Kirk. Eleanor. Jennifer Starr Oh, cat J. Chelsea. Dana. David. Nicole. Mickey. Paige, S J. Shawn Hunter, Theo. Boise. Mutual Aid. Milica and Papa Runa. Hope I got that one. Right. Thank you. Thank you all for your support. Big hugs and kisses out to all of you. And thank you everyone who listened. And yeah, to tune in next time when we'll talk about some other nerd bullshit and I'll see you at the movies. 59:40 The times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. And then, I'm sure both by the scale of the enemy. Remember this? Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random Acts of insurrection. are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy, there are a whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they've already enlisted in the course. Remember that the frontier of the rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward. And then remember this imperial need for control is so desperate because it's so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort, it breaks, it leaks. Authorities brittle oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that and know this. The day will come when all the skirmishes and battles has moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege remember this try

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You may not know what ESG is but you should. ESG is an investment strategy. It stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance. DuPont is one of the biggest companies in the world and they take ESG very seriously. To help us understand why and what that means, we have on the podcast two key people at DuPont, a bigger part of the housing sector than you might think. Alan Hubbell leads DuPont's Performance Building Solutions residential marketing team, and Shawn Hunter is DuPont's leader of sustainable solutions for their building and construction business unit.

Don't miss the fun when Natalie Katona looks back at how the ‘90s male TV heartthrobs she grew up watching. Her and guest Elizabeth, from former episodes 90s Male Protagonists Made Me Codependent and Turns Out I Do Have Religious Trauma, will put on trial the two male protagonists they think set them up for the worst relationship patterns. Who was the worst heartthrob to be attracted to? Was it Shawn Hunter? Dawson Leery? Or a surprise write in vote? Find out on this live Fireside episode that features live audience participation! Follow us at @menivetoleratedpod on Instagram and https://www.patreon.com/menivetoleratedpod on Patreon for bonus content! Make sure to like, subscribe, and review so Natalie can send some good vibes and positive manifestations your way as well! You can follow the live show and see video of this episode at firesidechat.com/nataliekatona. Find Elizabeth: All socials: @finalgirlscout and finalgirlscout@gmail.com Other Guest Spots: Plug it Up (@plugituppod), Bloody Good Horror (@bloodygoodhorror), Zombie Grrlz (@zgpodcasts), and Thor's Hour of Thunder

Anyone else suddenly craving pancakes??? This week on Spooky Tuesday, we're heading back out to the woods, a place where absolutely nothing good happens, with Cabin Fever (2002). Starring Boy Meets World's Shawn Hunter as that “nice guy” you've been curving for the past few years and featuring a true-to-life shaving scene that will make your skin crawl, this horror story hits a little close to home for more reasons than one.References:https://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/12/movies/film-review-something-s-rotten-out-in-the-woods.htmlhttps://horrorobsessive.com/2020/01/08/the-odd-morality-tale-of-eli-roths-cabin-fever/https://creepycatalog.com/is-cabin-fever-2002-based-on-a-true-story/https://screenrant.com/cabin-fever-movie-deleted-scenes-explained/https://screenrant.com/cabin-fever-movie-pancakes-scene-weird-why/ Deleted Scenes: https://youtu.be/8R8yFMR0hnsFake Alternate Ending: https://youtu.be/AIjRkIf7UGMEli Roth on Cabin Fever (2002): https://youtu.be/uA1E_38TuTw

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всем удачного и дня и отличного настроения! Intro U-Mount - Reverse Polarity (Extended Mix) Wayf4rer - Nightwalker (Extended Mix) Nth Factor feat. Luscjo - Wings of Hope (Extended Mix) Ed Sánchez - Southern Winds (Extended Mix) PvR - Sun Sparks (Original Mix) Pittarius code - Imagination (Extended Mix) DRYM & Cari - Seasons Will Change (Extended Mix) Aley & Oshay feat. Angel Falls - I Found My Way (Lex Sender Remix) Eric Zimmer, Shawn Hunter & Hidden Tigress - Indelible (Fredd Moz Extended Remix)

Sean Beresford - The Day The Earth Stood Still (Extended Mix) NrgMind - Star Flight (Extended Mix) N - sKing & Norex & Adwell - From the Ashes (Extended Mix) Mobius - Sanctuary (Original Mix) Marcprest - Sideralis (Eclipse Remix) Talla 2XLC - Serenity (Extended Mix) DRYM & Cari - Seasons Will Change (Extended Mix) Alex Drane - Redemption (Extended Mix) Aly & Fila - Euphony (Extended Mix) SPY & Lightning vs. Waveband - Vortex (Extended Mix) Kenny Palmer - Raven Hill (Extended Mix) Eric Zimmer, Shawn Hunter & Hidden Tigress - Indelible (Fredd Moz Extended Remix) Dmitriy Kuznetsov - Elven Wind (Extended Mix) Christopher Corrigan & Nadi Sunrise - I Can't Help Myself (Extended Mix) ) v Arctic Ocean & Henry Moe - Rebirth (Extended Mix) Alatheia - Task Force (Extended Mix) Wayf4rer - Nightwalker (Extended Mix) Magic O.D.A - Atlantis (Spy Extended Remix)

Vote for your favorite songs from this episode! https://poll.app.do/pg/uponly-456 Episodes Info & Links: https://abora-recordings.com/uponly-456 All episode, infos, & links: www.upliftingonly.com Tracklist: 1. AlexSo feat. Stas Obukhov - Do You Feel The Same [Suanda Voice] 2. PRE-RELEASE PICK 458: HALIENE & Maratone - Make It To Tomorrow (Astuni & Manuel Le Saux Remix) [Abora] [WORLD PREMIERE] 3. Beat & Voice featuring Michele C - Saving Grace [AVA White] 4. PRE-RELEASE PICK: Lost Witness & Laura Ly - Weight of the World [Abora] [WORLD PREMIERE] 5. BREAKDOWN OF THE WEEK: Afternova - The Beauty Of Life (Extended Orchestral Trance Mix) [Time Leap Essential] [WORLD PREMIERE] 6. Christopher Corrigan - The Perfect Storm [Suanda Voice] 7. Elgfrothi - After The Storm [Neostatics] 8. Talla 2XLC & Clara Yates - Shadow Left Behind [Talla 2XLC] 9. Route Too Far & Sarah Howells - Without You (F.G. Noise Extended Mix) [Amsterdam Trance Records] 10. 4 Strings & Susanne Teutenberg - Shadows Dancing [Carlo Resoort] 11. Code2 & Deirdre McLaughlin - See The Light [Amsterdam Trance Records] 12. SoundLift, RedSound & Cathy Burton - Empty Echoing (Stargazers Extended Mix) [Amsterdam Trance Records] 13. Masters & Nickson feat. Justine Suissa - Out There (Sean Tyas Remix) [WAO138] 14. FAN FAVORITE 454: SounEmot & Iberian with Lyd14 - Find Our Love Again [Sounds of the Stars] 15. Miikka Leinonen & Josie Sandfeld - Love Again Die Again (Ikerya Project Remix) [Abora] 16. Eric Zimmer, Shawn Hunter and Hidden Tigress - Indelible [Emergent Skies] 17. INCI3ION feat. Desislava Zlateva - By My Side [We Are Trance] 18. DJ T.H., Cyre, Linnea Schossow - Chasing Shadows [FSOE] 19. Marc Jerome Feat Liliana Iodice - Scars (Fischer & Miethig Remix) [Joyride] 20. Remech feat. Marianna Ray - Follow You (Drival Remix) [Defcon] 21. FAN FAVORITE 453: KBK & Grande Piano - No Words [Abora Skies] 22. Somna & Clara Yates - Never Feel Lost (Digital Vision Remix) [AVA White] 23. Rene Ablaze featuring Sarah de Warren - The One (Extended Mix) [Nocturnal Knights] 24. A.R.D.I. - Speak My Mind [2Rock] 25. Johannes Fischer - Faithful Fellow (Original) [Abora Chillout] [WORLD PREMIERE] 26. SYMPHONIC SEND-OFF: Moreno J feat. Magdalen Silvestra - The Inner Peace [VERSE] 27. CHILLOUT SEND-OFF: Rayan Myers feat. Yuliya River - The Beginning [Nicksher]

Vote for your favorite songs from this episode! https://poll.app.do/pg/uponly-456 Episodes Info & Links: https://abora-recordings.com/uponly-456 All episodes, infos, & links: www.upliftingonly.com Timed Tracklist: 1. [0:00:33]: AlexSo feat. Stas Obukhov - Do You Feel The Same [Suanda Voice] 2. [0:04:15]: PRE-RELEASE PICK 458: HALIENE & Maratone - Make It To Tomorrow (Astuni & Manuel Le Saux Remix) [Abora] [WORLD PREMIERE] 3. [0:08:53]: Beat & Voice featuring Michele C - Saving Grace [AVA White] 4. [0:14:06]: PRE-RELEASE PICK: Lost Witness & Laura Ly - Weight of the World [Abora] [WORLD PREMIERE] 5. [0:19:26]: BREAKDOWN OF THE WEEK: Afternova - The Beauty Of Life (Extended Orchestral Trance Mix) [Time Leap Essential] [WORLD PREMIERE] 6. [0:23:26]: Christopher Corrigan - The Perfect Storm [Suanda Voice] 7. [0:28:04]: Elgfrothi - After The Storm [Neostatics] 8. [0:34:10]: Talla 2XLC & Clara Yates - Shadow Left Behind [Talla 2XLC] 9. [0:38:06]: Route Too Far & Sarah Howells - Without You (F.G. Noise Extended Mix) [Amsterdam Trance Records] 10. [0:43:12]: 4 Strings & Susanne Teutenberg - Shadows Dancing [Carlo Resoort] 11. [0:47:33]: Code2 & Deirdre McLaughlin - See The Light [Amsterdam Trance Records] 12. [0:52:25]: SoundLift, RedSound & Cathy Burton - Empty Echoing (Stargazers Extended Mix) [Amsterdam Trance Records] 13. [0:57:04]: Masters & Nickson feat. Justine Suissa - Out There (Sean Tyas Remix) [WAO138] 14. [1:01:14]: FAN FAVORITE 454: SounEmot & Iberian with Lyd14 - Find Our Love Again [Sounds of the Stars] 15. [1:05:59]: Miikka Leinonen & Josie Sandfeld - Love Again Die Again (Ikerya Project Remix) [Abora] 16. [1:12:08]: Eric Zimmer, Shawn Hunter and Hidden Tigress - Indelible [Emergent Skies] 17. [1:18:06]: INCI3ION feat. Desislava Zlateva - By My Side [We Are Trance] 18. [1:22:45]: DJ T.H., Cyre, Linnea Schossow - Chasing Shadows [FSOE] 19. [1:27:09]: Marc Jerome Feat Liliana Iodice - Scars (Fischer & Miethig Remix) [Joyride] 20. [1:31:12]: Remech feat. Marianna Ray - Follow You (Drival Remix) [Defcon] 21. [1:35:51]: FAN FAVORITE 453: KBK & Grande Piano - No Words [Abora Skies] 22. [1:40:57]: Somna & Clara Yates - Never Feel Lost (Digital Vision Remix) [AVA White] 23. [1:45:35]: Rene Ablaze featuring Sarah de Warren - The One (Extended Mix) [Nocturnal Knights] 24. [1:49:45]: A.R.D.I. - Speak My Mind [2Rock] 25. [1:54:24]: Johannes Fischer - Faithful Fellow [Abora Chillout] [WORLD PREMIERE] 26. [1:55:35]: SYMPHONIC SEND-OFF: Moreno J feat. Magdalen Silvestra - The Inner Peace [VERSE] 27. [1:59:53]: CHILLOUT SEND-OFF: Rayan Myers feat. Yuliya River - The Beginning [Nicksher]

#8. Today's show features major league sports mogul, Shawn Hunter, who has over 25 years experience in nearly all aspects of sports at the highest levels. Shawn's success in sports management is rooted in his belief that people and relationships always come first, and despite the high-stakes world of professional sports, he has always maintained a work environment that was fun and light.In 2018, Hunter founded the Chicago Dogs, members of the American Association of Independent Professional Baseball who play at the state-of-the-art Impact Field located in Rosemont, Ill. Prior to the Dogs, Hunter ran AEG Sports & touched nearly everything the global company did, including running the Los Angeles Kings. He spent two years commuting to London while opening O2 Arena. He presided over six MLS teams. During his long career in sports management, he presided over the Denver Nuggets, Minnesota Timberwolves, and also spent seven years as president of the Phoenix Coyotes & in 1995 when the Quebec Nordiques moved to Denver, Hunter was in charge w/building them into the NHL franchise now known as the Colorado Avalanche. He introduced sports sponsorships to the University of Minnesota, and has even run two of America's top cycling events. Despite receiving numerous offers in major league sports, Hunter has chosen a uncommon path in his ownership of the Dogs; many consider him to be the most overqualified minor league baseball CEO; however, his career has come full circle and he's loving his Dogs, who at the time of recording were in the middle of their first playoff series in franchise history. Show Links:The Chicago DogsEmail Shawn HunterMoments of Truth by Jan CarlzonBottom-Up Marketing by Al Ries & Jack TroutStories that Stick by Kindra HallMy Contact Info:LukeMertens44@gmail.comTwitter: @LukeMertensIG: LukeMertens44LinkedIn Profile

Shawn is also responsible for the business product stewardship program and leads a team of passionate product stewards to enable the business commitment to product stewardship.An expert in sustainability with over a decade of experience in business sustainability programs, Dr. Hunter previously led the development of Dow's 2025 Sustainability goals and has a background in product sustainability, Life Cycle Assessment, green chemistry, and R&D.  Dr. Hunter holds a PhD in Chemical Engineering, with a master's concentration in environmental sustainability, from the University of Michigan, where he serves as an Adjunct Professor in Chemical Engineering.

Welcome to the final week of "Pixie Dust Twins Meet World" series! Ashley and Sammi are wrapping up with a SUPERSIZED episode focused on the Boy Meets World reboot, Girl Meets World. Because they are "Old Millennials," they are mostly focused on how and when their favorite BMW characters pop up throughout the series 3 year run. The return of Shawn, the new Feeny Call, Mr. Turner's redemption, and of course, Plays With Squirrels are some of Ashley and Sammi's favorite topics! Be sure to come back next week when the topic switches to the 50th Anniversary Celebration of Walt Disney World! Follow the show on Instagram @pixiedusttwinspodcast, and check out LimitlessBroadcasting.com for even more information about the show!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/LimitlessBroadcasting?fan_landing=true)

Chicago Dogs co-owner Shawn Hunter joins John Williams to talk about the success stories of the team’s previous players and the great success of the team as a whole.

Sadly, we have reached the final week of the OG Boy Meets World series, BUT next week Pixie Dust Twins Meet World continues with a conversation about Girl Meets World, which honestly will be mostly a chat about all of the BMW tie-ins. Today, Ashley and Sammi talk about the final two seasons, which have some big changes for our favorite characters. Shawn loses his sense of identity, and his father, Cory and Topanga finally tie the knot, Eric becomes "Plays with Squirrels," and Mr. Feeny says his last goodbye to his lifelong students. Join us on Instagram @pixiedusttwinspodcast, and check out LimitlessBroadcasting.com for more information about all of our podcasts. Never forget: Dream. Try. Do Good. Class dismissed.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/LimitlessBroadcasting?fan_landing=true)

Whoa, Pixie Dusters! Strap in, because somehow the Boy Meets World crew has reached their senior year, and Ashley and Sammi are here to talk about all of the big events that were crammed into their last year of high school. Topanga and Cory break up...and it's BAD. Eric finally heads off to college, and it turns out he's sharing an apartment with Shawn's half-brother...what?! Amy and Alan are going to have another kid, Feeny is retiring, and Topanga pops the big question at the end of the season! Plus Angela finally joins the cast, and Shawn spends an episode killing everyone. And did we mention Sabrina and Candace Cameron Bure pop up??? Are you ready for this craziness? After you listen to the episode, go to Instagram and find your new best friends @pixiedusttwinspodcast so you can share your favorite Season 5 memories with them! And as always, check out LimitlessBroadcasting.com for more information about all of LBC's podcasts!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/LimitlessBroadcasting?fan_landing=true)

In the inaugural episode of "Saved by the 90s," acting icon Rider Strong (Shawn Hunter in "Boy Meets World") talks to Tyler about his formative years acting on the show, the impact the show had on society, and, of course, Mr. Feeny. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Boys have a a real wrestling fan on to talk about episode 409 "Sixteen Candles and 400-pound Men"! They discuss anime, easy solutions to the show's plot, Kingdom Hearts, signature wrestling moves, and the possible diety of Shawn Hunter! Thank you to Dizzy Parker for our theme song! Find the full version here with links to find Dizzy on the web! https://youtu.be/NBvl0f_v2v0

Ashley and Sammi are back to discuss Boy Meets World seasons 3 and 4 today! Some of the shows most iconic episodes happen these seasons as we finally see Cory and Topanga get together (and break up!), Topanga gets a makeover, Shawn starts to find his way, and Eric looks ahead to his future. Not to mention Morgan gets a big makeover! Plus, the crew visits The Most Magical Place on Earth! Let Ashley and Sammi know what you loved most about these two seasons on Instagram @pixiedusttwinspodcast, and come back next week for a dive into season 5....a lot happens so this season gets it's own episode!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/LimitlessBroadcasting?fan_landing=true)

Welcome to PART 2 of the introduction to "Pixie Dust Twins Meet World," a 5 week series dedicated to the amazing 90s TGIF show Boy Meets World! On this episode, Ashley and Sammi dive into their favorite episodes from seasons 1 and 2. Ashley is all about the fun, and Feeny heavy episodes, while Sammi loves to talk about her childhood crush Shawn. Do you agree with their choices? Let them know on Instagram @pixiedusttwinspodcast! Don't forget to rate and review the show before you go as well, and come back next week for a  look into seasons 3 and 4, which starts to get more heavy with adult topics and themes.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/LimitlessBroadcasting?fan_landing=true)

Feeny! Fa-fa-fa-fa-feeny! Ashley and Sammi have been prepping their best Feeny call because they are diving into 5 weeks of Boy Meets World! Buckle in for plenty of banter about life lessons, family, and love. Today's episode kicks off the series with a introduction to the classic characters who started it all. And because Ashley and Sammi love BMW so much, they accidently talked and talked and talked....for 2 hours! So count your blessings on all of Shawn Hunter's magestic locks because PART 2 of this kick-off episode drops Friday August 6th!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/LimitlessBroadcasting?fan_landing=true)

Open 365 days a year, RoadHouse offers an extraordinary restaurant menu created by an award-winning chef and restaurateur, an impressively creative full bar featuring high quality wines and craft beers, and overwhelmingly comfortable recliners, all to be enjoyed while experiencing state-of-the-art digital projection and 7.1 Dolby Digital Surround Sound!

“Chick Like Me” (January 31, 1997) Rider Strong's Shawn Hunter is not canonically a trans character, but there is a season-four episode of Boy Meets World that gives you all the evidence you'd need to conclude that Shawn might be. For this extra-long episode — possibly our longest! — we are joined by Faati the Street, who explains why this one episode speaks volumes about the trans experience, even if it was not the intention of anyone involved in the episode's creation. Read Faati's Twitter thread “The Silencing of the Shrew.” Read Trina McGee's 1999 L.A. Times column on Shawn and Angela's interracial relationship. Listen to Monday Afternoon Movie's episode about the Linda Blair TV movie Stranger in Our House. Listen to the Talking Simpsons episode that explains the Julia Sweeney/Dr. Hibbert connection. The “Snake” anti-drug PSA that Glen mentions. Samus Aran from Metroid is a trans woman. Watch Drew's video compilation of every LGBT joke ever on the history of The Simpsons. Buy Glen's movie, Being Frank. Support us on Patreon! Follow: GEE on Facebook • GEE's Facebook Group • GEE on Twitter • GEE on Instagram •  Drew on Twitter • Glen on Twitter Listen: iTunes • Spotify • Stitcher • Google Play • Google Podcasts • Himalaya • TuneIn The episode's outro track is “I Never Dance” by Crysalis, which is not on any of the streaming services so why not listen to it on YouTube?

Hootie and the Blowfish. Topanga. The Savage brothers. Why Rob's not gay. Shawn Hunter's Hair. Corey Matthews' purity. Disney keeping it horny per usual.  At low-effort content—where okay is okay—family and friends hang out, make stuff, and share it with you to celebrate curiosity and creativity in all kinds of ways. We’d love to hear from you. And you can hit our merch page to get things and support us.  Here are some of the shows you can listen to from low-effort content. Make Mine a Double Feature, where we have a few drinks and tell each other movie stories in all kinds of ways—like backwards or in the form of letters or from the POV of a side character. Kid. Dad. Songs. Yeah!, where my son and I talk about music, often by picking winners in a bracket. Trivial Television, where we recap TV episodes while sprinkling in facts, fictions, and trivia questions. Booyah 90s Now, where we break down what it’s been like to live under the influence of 90s media. Trading Up!, where Rob loses a bunch of money trying to become a good stock trader. Thanks for hanging out. Thanks for listening to this. Take care.

Scott Welcomes first time guest Danielle Brown to the podcast to discuss Boy Meets World. They're talking Cult Fiction BABY! They go over the tragic TV life that is Shawn Hunter, the raw power of Alan Matthews, and Scott pitches a Dick Wolf style TV show starring Mr. Feeney. Thank you to DJ QUADS FOR THE TRACK USE OF LIVING IN STEREO. Listen to Danielle's podcast World of Commotion right here on the zero science network: www.zero-science.com Follow us on twitter @wrtrbagelbskt, like us on our facebook page, and you can email the boys at writersbagelbasket@gmail.com with questions, shows or movies to watch, and fan art of the shows they're doing. Don't forget to like us on the Facebook too. Instagram is another way to find us too @writersbagelbasket, follow us it's fun!

The boys reunite to get into the most beloved season in boy meets history. Yes, we've finally made it to Season 5! So much about this season is new including yet another random ass Shawn Hunter sibling we're just finding out about?? We give you our thoughts on Jack and all the other changes we noticed in season 5 in this episode of Bruh Meets World. Do you consider Corey & Topanga relationship goals? Or Corey & Shawn the original Bromance? Join TC & Ceej as they relive the journey, lessons and cultural influence of the 90's hit Boy Meets World! Follow & Contact: http://bit.ly/BruhMeetsWorld

This week, our guest is one of the stars of Boy Meets World, Rider Strong. He portrayed Shawn Hunter for all 158 episodes during the show's strong run. His character grew up as the show did, and Shawn went through some super dramatic things and the fact it worked is a credit to the cast, crew, creators, but mostly to Rider himself. He was terrific on everything from his naïveté at the start of the show, falling out of love with acting, and his very own Lindsay Lohan 'I'm not coming out of my trailer!' moment. Really down to earth guy which made for a wonderful conversation. You can check out his really unique book podcast 'Literary Disco': https://lithub.com/category/lithubradio/literary-disco/ (https://lithub.com/category/lithubradio/literary-disco/) This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Chartable - https://chartable.com/privacy Support this podcast

This week on Mark and Dan Meets World, the guys take a dive into another Girl Meets World episode! This isn't just the first Christmas episode of the series, but it is also the return of Cory's family and Shawn Hunter! (Spoiler) Find out why Shawn left New York City after the Boy Meets World Finale. Listen to Mark and Dan talk how Amy and Alan Matthews haven't aged a day. Subscribe today! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/markanddanmeetsworld/message

It's our 75th episode and we decided to do a sequel of one of our most popular episode! We're talking about our favorite Bad Boys and Bad Girls characters! From Kylo Ren (again) to Shawn Hunter from Boy Meets World, we discuss the most popular characters, our favorites and why so many people love these characters!

Emily chats with comedian Myq Kaplan and actor Adam Busch AKA WARREN FROM BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER about the pervasive fragile masculinity on the show. They also passionately discuss the multiple dimensions of Archie Comics, how dope Shawn Hunter from Boy Meets World was, and how most men that are into magic are probably feminists…debatable.

I’ve always been drawn to dark-haired, emotionally unavailable men. First there was the volatile guy with a troubled past who I was convinced was hiding a sensitive soul (he wasn’t). Then came the non-committal literary agent, followed by the equally guarded former MMA fighter, who I knew would be the first one to throw a punch at a party. After dating enough impenetrable brunettes (one of whom actually looked like Milo Ventimiglia circa 2002), I came to the only logical conclusion: Jess from Gilmore Girls ruined my dating life. The first time I saw Jess Mariano, I was a naive middle schooler just looking for something to watch after I finished my homework. Then I turned on ABC Family, and a Gilmore Girls rerun changed my life forever: there was Jess, brooding around Stars Hollow in a leather jacket with a book and a scowl. I fell head over heels instantly. This unknowingly set off my pattern of dating guys who, in their own ways, subconsciously reminded me of Jess. And despite them all sharing his worst trait of being emotionally withdrawn, I haven't been able to let them go — even as a 28-year-old woman with a job, a bank account, and years of relationship experience to learn from. I’ve half-joked with my therapist for years that as my first love — OK, fictional crush — Jess doomed my romantic future. But experts on adolescent sexuality now confirm it. "Adolescence is a key time for exploring and entering romantic and sexual relationships, as well as for the development of one's own identity, and therefore this is a particularly important period for pop culture and other media influences," says Erica Scharrer, Ph.D., Professor and Chair of the Department of Communication at University of Massachusetts, Amherst. A 2018 University of Michigan study on how adult women view their childhood celebrity crushes in comparison to their current relationships backs this up. Early romantic connections to celebrities were formative for the women surveyed, “socializing them, perhaps unrealistically, about what to expect from romance and sex." For me, that’s meant seeing my partners’ issues as problems I can solve if I just love them hard enough, and settling for much less in return while I wait for them to grow. This is also Jess’ fault: though he begins Gilmore Girls lost, evasive, and sometimes hurtful, by the end of the series he’s communicative, fulfilled, and seemingly ready to be in a healthy and stable relationship with Rory. Unfortunately for me — and anyone else who crushed on characters like My So-Called Life’s Jordan Catalano, Veronica Mars’ Logan Echolls, Boy Meets World’s Shawn Hunter, and The O.C.’s Ryan Atwood — it’s Jess’ earlier qualities that make him so appealing. "Jess is a classic bad boy — he's complicated, troubled, inconsistent, interesting, and desperately afraid of messing everything up, which he inevitably does," says psychotherapist Leslie C. Bell, PhD, LCSW. "There's certainly the trope of the man in need of a good woman's love in order to heal him — there's some appeal in that. But mainly I think it's a little bit exciting for someone who is [as] rule-abiding as Rory to flirt a bit with a darker side of reality." As someone who identified with the book-loving, people-pleasing Rory, it makes perfect sense that I fell for the same type of guy as her. We’re both ambitious and motivated women who seek to be challenged, whether in school or our careers. Why wouldn’t that extend to our romantic lives? This desire to make the bad boy “good” is also one of the few challenges young women are shown undertaking in pop culture and media, which is another reason I may have been drawn to Jess, explains Dr. Emerald Christopher-Byrd, Assistant Professor of Women and Gender Studies at the University of Delaware. Though Christopher-Byrd assures me that my attraction to men like Jess isn't inherently bad, it comes with the "inevitable outcome of the person never changing." There’s no guarantee that if I persevere long enough, my partner will show up at my apartment to credit me with the publication of their novel or beg me to run away with them. Gilmore Girls creator Amy Sherman-Palladino is, sadly, not the screenwriter of my life. One challenge I can start to tackle, however, is my own dating patterns. Jess will always be my first love — and I’ll still absolutely never date a Logan Huntzberger — but with the validation that Jess is in fact partly to blame for my self-sabotaging habits, I can start to judge the men I date by who they are right now, not who they may or may not become based on their similarities to a fictional ideal I’ve held onto for 15 years. That being said, if you own a leather jacket and currently have something by Jack Kerouac tucked into the back pocket of your jeans, my DMs are open.

**reuploaded since I originally just posted Travis' Audio**  Diane Delivers (per usual), Shawn Hunter is apparently now a ‘rhymes with schmazi, and some LoVers are star crossed oh my! Joe and Travis are back this week discussing Veronica Mars Season 3 Episode 2 “My Big Fat Greek Rush Week”. Join them as they dissect the episode.   Follow the podcast across all social media platforms to join in with the discussion @veronicamarspod - Twitter, Instagram.   Send any questions, comments, or concerns to veronicamarspod@gmail.com.   Visit our website: http://www.veronicamarspod.com/    Find Joe on social media @ohjeaux ---> Instagram, Twitter   Find Travis on social media @travistruant---> Instagram, Twitter

This week on the HR Power Hour join Tawny as she talks to serial entrepreneur, best-selling author, and founder and president of Mindscaling,Shawn Hunter about his book Small Acts of Leadership: 12 Intentional Behaviors That Lead to Big Impact.While great leaders recognize that change is inevitable, making change can seem daunting and overwhelming.In Shawn's book he proves that small changes in your leadership style, focus, and outlook can have a dramatic impact on your (and your organization's success).This program will provide listeners with a peak at the impactful changes Hunter shares in Small Acts of Leadership and tips on how to integrate these changes into your workday.That's on the next HR Power Hour. 

This week, we've got CABIN FEVER (2002). We talk about Eli Roth's sense of humor, Shawn Hunter, and pancakes. Find us on Instagram and Twitter to join the Spooky Squad. Subscribe, Rate, and Review! Find Seynique here and here. Find Andrew here and here. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/wediefirst/support

Shawn Hunter, co-owner of the independent professional baseball team Chicago Dogs, joins The Roe Conn Show to talk about the team’s return to Impact Field in Rosemont in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. Follow your favorite Roe Conn Show characters on Twitter: Follow @RoeConn Follow @kpowell720Follow @LaurenLapkaFollow @kgfrankenthal And be sure to follow Roe on […]

WGN Radio’s Mark Carman and Jordan Bernfield talk to The Chicago Dogs co-owner Shawn Hunter about the team’s plan to re-open and allow fans in during the pandemic and what precautions the team is taking before they begin playing games.

If you are ready to improve your financial condition, this episode of The TiVoMike Show podcast will help. The hosts discuss Dave Ramsey's blog titled, “How to Change Your Money Mindset” written by Rachel Cruze. Listen in on the hosts insight and be blessed. Glory! Add me on Instagram: TiVoMike | Add EG on Twitter: EGMike84Products Mentioned In This Episode:LegalShield | Justice for all. - HarvardLifeManagement.comTiVo Stream TCDA94000 OTA Version (Over The Air Only) for Premiere/4/XL or Roamio - https://amzn.to/2YxPzbnTiVo MINI VOX Streaming Media Player, 4K UHD, With Voice Remote! (TCDA95000) - https://amzn.to/3e2QeYPIDShield | IDShield plans offer the most complete and affordable assistance available. Find out what is included in each plan to decide which one is right for you. - https://bit.ly/2BJHbxP Harvard Life Management GroupTiVoMike Recommends:Join Prime Video Channels Free Trial - https://amzn.to/3fa4z63Amazon Prime Video - https://amzn.to/3gUbB09TiVo Edge for Cable | Cable TV, DVR and Streaming 4K UHD Media Player with Dolby Vision HDR and Dolby Atmos - https://amzn.to/2AIVi5OTiVo Edge for Antenna | Live, DVR and Streaming 4K UHD Media Player with Dolby Vision HDR and Dolby Atmos - https://amzn.to/2YacucAEPISODE NOTESMoney Monday, Scripture of the Day, Quote of the DayAs heard on this episode:#MoneyMonday - How To Change Your Money Mindset | DaveRamsey.com#scriptureoftheday - Psalm 103:13 - As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear Him.#quoteoftheday - No, no listen. You see! A judgement I made a long time ago is that Shawn Hunter is the best friend that my kid ever had. And I will kill to protect Shawn Hunter from people like you. - Boy Meets World

Episode 11 Today I interview my absolute most FAVORITE person on the entire face of the planet, Doctor Emily Roben. She is an emergency room attending at Lurie Childrens Hospital, she was a field hockey goalie at Stanford University (on a scholarship!), she is an incredible artist and crafter, and she is the best wife and best friend a person could ask for.www.whatcanyoutellme.cominstagram @whatcanyoutellmefacebook @whatcanyoutellmetwitter @whatcanutellmehttps://www.instagram.com/ranchoroben/https://www.instagram.com/craftastic613/Born in Exeter, NH. Moved to Cupertino, CA and spent many years of her youth attending an extra curricular Hebrew school program ultimately having her Bat Mitzvah at age 13.Began playing field hockey as a goalie at Monta Vista High School.Entered freshman year at Stanford University playing field hockey on a scholarship.Notable students and faculty while she was at Stanford include numerous Olympic and professional athletes, Chelsea Clinton and Ben Savage from Boy Meets World, (BTW Rider Strong played Shawn Hunter on that show)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105958/Jered Diamond author Guns Germs and Steel https://amzn.to/2Tef13CRobert Sapolsky author Why Zebras Dont Get Ulcers https://amzn.to/2y75VyiSan Jose State for premed also had the fun of taking raquet ball, kickboxing and bowling Currently playing pickle ball with mehttps://amzn.to/3g06Gu7Attended Northwestern University Medical School. Started pediatrics residency at Childrens Memorial Hospital in Chicago which became Ann and Robert H. Lurie Childrens Hospital. Fellowship in pediatric emergency medicine at Ann and Robert H. Lurie Childrens Hospital. Became an attending physician in the emergency department at Ann and Robert H. Lurie Childrens Hospital https://www.luriechildrens.org/not to be confused withChildrens Hospital (COMEDY TV SHOW)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1325113/SouthLAnd (COP SHOW)https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1299368/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1Discussions about what work can be likeBegan learning to crochet and made a 3D anatomicaly correct heart. Has won multiple awards from the National Arts Program. (Picture of heart is here!) https://www.nationalartsprogram.org/nap-spotlight/emily-robenRaises animals in the backyard farm-currently 6 chickens, a duck, 2 goats, a lovebird, 2 pet rats and a salt water aquarium. Check out Emily's instagram account with all of the animals https://www.instagram.com/ranchoroben/“There's lots of reasons to become a doctor but money is a very bad one.”Favorite food as a kid- steamed Artichoke dipped in butterFavorite beverage- carbonated wateror her invented cocktail The Best in Show- gin, soda, grenadine, limeHates Karaoke and especially HATES the B-52's (which I LOVE to sing)Podcast Likes-Experts on Expert with Dax ShepherdSerial By the Book Radio Lab FreakonomicsApple Music Playlists- Barefoot Acoustic, Todays CountryIs an incredibly dedicated cyclist who rides a bike 300+ days a year (in Chicago) to work (12 miles round trip) 

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With all the crazy going around, have some fun with us as we remember one of our favorite childhood tv shows. Boy Meets World was our number one show growing up. The relationship between Cory and Shawn cannot be touched. Those two can go head to head with the Cory/Topanga relationship. We discuss Shawn Hunter and Eric Matthews maybe a little too much but that's ok. We kinda ramble on through this episode but that's nothing new. Do you guys like the Feeny call? We have to find the doll with the Feeny Call. Hope you like this episode. Give Boy Meets World a try if you haven't already watched it. Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Like, share, comment, and or rate :)

What would you do if Shawn Hunter turned up at your doorstep? Do you agree with Turner or Feeny? How involved is too involved? Skylar and Meghan discuss and debate what the right steps are or at least speculate what they would do. Let us know what you think of the penultimate episode of Season 2. We'll see you in the finale! Don't forget to like, subscribe, rate, review, and share with your friends! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-feeny-call/support

We're back with Season 2 of Home & Away! Jess continues to scope out the minor and independent leagues for the fascinating stories about the teams, as well as their players and fans while forcing her #KetchupOnly hotdog takes upon anyone who will listen. In the Season Premiere, Jess takes in a Chicago Dogs game and tries to convince tourmate Jim, along with the the rest of the Dogs' fans that #KetchupOnly isn't weird. Additional voices include: Shawn Hunter, Chief Executive Officer, Chicago Dogs Sam Brief, Broadcaster and Media Relations Manager, Chicago Dogs Kelly Frank, President, Amazing Mascots This episode was recorded at CJSF 90.1 FM in Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada. Website: homeandawaypod.com/ Twitter: twitter.com/homeandawaypod Instagram: www.instagram.com/homeandawaypod/

After a short time, off Jillian & Jerry are back to further delve in the mind of Shawn Hunter after he has been brutally deserted by his charismatic father.  Also Feeny takes on a slave, which is a completely different direction for this show.  Turner has another inappropriate relationship with a student. And Eric is at his dumbest, which can only mean one thing...his best friend doesn't need him anymore.  It's a part 2 that isn't a part 2, but if you have taken away anything from this episode, it's that you need to call Charlie.  I'm serious.... Call him NOW.Find us on Twitter @StoryofCoryPodOr email us with your thoughts and opinions at StoryofCoryPod@gmail.com download (right click, save as...)WARNING: This episode contains adult language.

Hannah is joined by Ben Mandelker, the handsome and hilarious host of "Watch What Crappens" and genius behind the Youtube series "The Real Housewares of Kitchen Island"! They chat about early 2000's pop culture, and Ben tells the amazing story of his personal experience with the cast of The OC! Expect witty banter, inside scoop, and a Shawn Hunter reference or two.

Dorinda Walker interviews Shawn Hunter, Social Activist about overcoming the low self-esteem that led her to prison and how she reclaimed her life by relying on her faith in order to live in her purpose.    

Let’s relive the best television of the 90’s – this is episode 32 of Encyclopodia. It’s Boy Meets World! Summary: A ’90’s sitcom that chronicles the growing up stories of Cory Matthews, his best friend Shawn Hunter, and lifelong sweetheart Topanga Lawrence. Further Research: Boy Meets World: Back to the Beginning. Many thanks to Gillian … Continue reading "Boy Meets World (1990’s television series) with Gillian Spence"

Carlos Zambrano joins Red Line Radio this week to talk about his comeback to professional baseball with the Chicago Dogs. We talk about his time with Chicago, why he feels so compelled to come back and why he's a changed man from what you remember. In and around that we talk GoT endings, Bulls lottery draft, Cubs momentum and Tim Anderson. We got a voicemail from a classic RLR guy and a surprise interview at the end with special guest Chicago Dogs owner Shawn Hunter. It's an All Gas No Brakes kind of week, always. 

Owner of "The Chicago Dogs" Shawn Hunter, stops by the studio to talk this seasons excitement!

Shawn Hunter is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, speaker, and the founder of Mindscaling, a company dedicated to creating beautiful and intelligent leadership development experiences for companies. He has been a speaker and advisor to Microsoft, Starbucks, Boeing, Canon, Treasury Executive Institute, Scotia Bank, Royal Bank of Canada, Nintendo, the World Economic Forum, and numerous other companies. Shawn has collaborated with hundreds of business authors, executives, and researchers to create learning solutions.

Join us this week as we discuss: Season 1 Episode 11 - The Father/Son Game"I'VE BEEN UP SINCE SIX AM!"Sitting for the PledgeClassroom DebatesCory and Eric continue to break their dad's heartMinkus is smarter than Shawn Hunter. Duh.COMMERCIAL BREAK! Season 1 Episode 12 - Once in Love with AmyIS AMY CHEATING ON ALAN?Maybe... because he thinks flowers are more important than being helpfulWOULD TAWNYA PUNCH ALDEN?!Crazy math problemsLace and grapes..?Will Cory win a debate? Will the boys have to play in the father/son baseball game? Is Amy cheating on Alan?? Find out this week along with us!   Follow us on twitter at @BMGMBMW or follow your hosts - Alden is @adotbair and Tawnya is @cinderhontabell

Last week was our worst week yet, but have no fear the greatest parlay in history is hear! Cash in the big bucks. Put it in the books!!

Digital technology is essential to better financial services for small businesses Better financial services are needed by micro, small, and medium-sized enterprises (MSMEs), such as secured transaction frameworks, credit information systems, and insolvency regimes. Among the 21 Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum economies, MSMEs represent more than 60% of total employment, 40% of gross domestic product, and 15% of total exports, but some 40% of their financial needs go unserved, mainly because they are too small to get banks' attention. Shawn Hunter, David Dole, and Valdimir dela Cruz explain. Read the transcript https://bit.ly/2V1WGGz Read the policy brief https://www.adb.org/publications/financial-inclusion-digital-age About the authors Shawn Hunter is manager of Inclusive Finance at the Foundation for Development Cooperation. Valdimir dela Cruz was an associate at the Asian Development Bank Institute (ADBI) at the time the paper was written. David Dole is senior economist at ADBI. Know more about ADBI's work https://bit.ly/2GJxL7B https://bit.ly/2QH3ACy

In this chapter, Jillian and Jerry discuss the myth of the infamous ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-cherry bomb as well as Cory's deteriorating sanity as he flings puppies out his second story window.  Also the fact that Alan is a perpetual liar with a psychopathic drive to murder Shawn Hunter.   This is an episode, you will not want to miss.Find us on Twitter @StoryofCoryPodOr email us with your thoughts and opinions at StoryofCoryPod@gmail.comdownload (right click, save as...)WARNING: This episode contains adult language.

Chelsea and Andrew explore the nebulous world of teen cults, true friendship, and "judging" when they tackle the episode of BOY MEETS WORLD in which Shawn Hunter joins a cult. Show: BOY MEETS WORLD "Cult Fiction," Season 4, Episode 21 Air Date: 25 April, 1997 Find it: on Hulu Further Reading: How Cults Work (CultWatch.com) This is How Cults Work (Vice UK) Snack: Japanese Peanuts

On this week's episode, Kevin talks with GasMoneyBob (8:40) about the start of the White Sox season, and the Bears draft. Then Kevin and NBC Sports Chicago's Tony Andracki talk Cubs (23:30). And finally, meet Shawn Hunter, owner of the new baseball team in town, the Chicago Dogs (37:30).

Scott welcomes back guest co-host Cole to the show to talk about Dwight's crush TOPANGA! They talk about the tragic life of Shawn Hunter, the insanity that was filming in Disney and Much more. Check out Dwight's other podcast "No Refunds." ( https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-refunds/id1091372133?mt=2) Also check out Scott's podcast "Kurland On Film." (https://soundcloud.com/kurlandonfilm/) Follow us on twitter @wrtrbagelbskt, like us on our facebook page, and you can email the boys at writersbagelbasket@gmail.com with questions, shows or movies to watch, and fan art of the shows they're doing. Don't forget to like us on the Facebook too. Credit to DJ Quads for providing Living Stereo (The music in the theme)

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Have you ever dreamed about doing an adventure of a lifetime with your child before they graduate, leave home and it's too late? It's something every parent would love to do but how can you make it happen? How do you manage the time off? Will your business or career stall while you're away? What kinds of challenges, lessons learned and rewards will result? In this episode learn about three parents who took the time to bicycle across America with their kids and the lessons they learned. Today, we welcome bestselling author Shawn Hunter to the podcast with a remarkable story of a journey across America. Shawn Hunter -Entrepreneur, author, idea developer. Shawn has collaborated with hundreds of business authors, executives, and researchers to create learning solutions. Shawn's first company, Targeted Learning, was acquired by Skillsoft in February 2007. He is the author of Out•Think and Small Acts of Leadership and currently Founder and President of Mindscaling, a company dedicated to creating beautiful, and intelligent online learning experiences based on the works of bestselling authors.

Changemakers: Shawn Hunter - Lifecycle Assessment by USGBC

The Guilty Pleasure podcast is the show that celebrates, and elaborate on, people's odd and embarrassing interests! Today's guest was Ryan Pigg! Hosts Amanda Salvatore and Jackie Rae Aubel talked with Ryan about their mutual love of the best sitcom of all time, 'Boy Meets World'! Seriously, we just geeked out about Boy Meets World, so if you loved Cory Matthews and Shawn Hunter, you'll love this episode. If you loved 'Friends' on the other hand, maybe not so much.

November 7, 2016 - Small Acts of Leadership Shawn Hunter & Motivational Management The Sandler Way Mike Crandall

Patrick Peason has been in the financial industry for over 25 years,and specializes in the unique challenges that face today's retireesand pre-retirees. Pat's focus is on serving the needs of retirees and pre-retirees, he offers conservative strategies that seek to minimize risk to principal while maximizing income.His process helps each client understand how much risk is appropriate in determining the optimal asset allocation for them. This strategy has served Patrick and his clients well; his success has garnered him some of the industry's most prestigious awards. An award winning national speaker Shawn Hunter is President and Founder of Mindscaling, a company building online learning courses based on the work of best-selling authors. His new book is Small Acts of Leadership: 12 Intentional Behaviors That Lead to Big Impact Steve Mariotti left a successful business career in 1982 to become a public high school teacher in New York City's roughest neighborhoods.  Mariotti discovered he could reach even his most troubled students by teaching them to run small businesses. He founded the Network for Teaching Entrepreneurship to bring entrepreneurship education to low-income youth For more information go to MoneyForLunch.com. Connect with Bert Martinez on Facebook. Connect with Bert Martinez on Twitter. Need help with your business? Contact Bert Martinez. Have Bert Martinez speak at your event!

As a leader, how can you be immensely present in the moment with people, both at work and in your personal life and in any situation? In my insightful and humorous discussion with Shawn Hunter we discuss his book Out Think: How Innovative Leaders Drive Exceptional Outcomes and the wisdom gleaned from interviewing hundreds of thought leaders and executives from all walks of life. Shawn not only writes about this topic as an author, but has also had to live it as an entrepreneur who has built and sold a company which was acquired by Skillsoft. He has interviewed so many successful people that he can see patterns of success and achievement that might take us 100 – 200 books and years to learn. In this interview ideas come fast and you will surely want to capture them. Take notes. Shawn shares numerous anecdotes and stories throughout the interview and every one of them will present a teaching moment for you. Here are 10 of the highlights: One of the best questions to ask yourself this coming year “What am I capable of becoming in a year?” The impact of Energizers and De-energizers in a company and what to do about them. The importance of strategic storytelling for a business. Does happiness precede success, or do we have to be happy first to be successful? Lack vs Surplus mentality - Wanting what you have vs wanting what you don’t have. What is the difference between a person who is creative vs innovative vs inventive. The buzz word is that people have to be more creative. Well what does this mean vs innovative? Why as a leader you need to be Immensely present in the moment with people and in situations. Examples of how leaders do this. How to scale and grow leadership. An expectation of excellence - This is an honor, it’s a gift. When you believe that those around you have the capacity to do their best, automatically they start performing to match that expectation. As a Leader and Manager, how do you create the right conditions for people you lead to have a sense of “flow” and sense of “excellence” in performing their work? Shawn is an author and the Executive Producer & Vice President for Leadership Development Channel at Skillsoft. He has been interviewing and writing about amazing leaders from around the globe for over ten years. Skillsoft provides cloud-based solutions for customers worldwide, who range from global enterprises, government and education customers to mid-sized and small businesses. He originally co-founded Targeted Learning Corporation with his father Hal Hunter, Ph.D., which was acquired by Skillsoft in February 2007. He has a degree in Political Science and Government from St. Andrews Presbyterian College. As quoted from Shawn’s website eloquently , “We’ve entered a new era. Call it the age of imagination, ideation, conceptualization, creativity, innovation – take your pick. Creativity, mental flexibility, and collaboration have displaced one-dimensional intelligence and isolated determination as core ingredients of competitive advantage. Creative people who can bring innovation to the world are our greatest capital now and with the right leadership and inspiration, creativity and execution can be nurtured in everyone. In any field, expertise is not only expected – it is given. Success for workers and companies centers on being nimble, creative and having the initiative to bring unique solutions to unexpected problems. " Books Out Think: How Innovative Leaders Drive Exceptional Outcomes New Book: Transform. Behaviors Mind-sets as a leader you need to make up. Available for sale Fall of 2016. Huffington Post Article: Signs of an Impending Bozo Explosion How to get in touch with Shawn ShawnHunter.com Facebook LinkedIn Twitter Resources Mentioned Dan Coil – The Talent Code Theresa Amabile ProgressPrinciple.com Shawn Achor - The Happiness Advantage: Linking Positive Brains to Performance Shawn Achor - Before Happiness Stephen Kotler "flow" Angela Duckworth and the Research on 'Grit' Bob Sutton – Energizers and De-Energizer research PhD Stanford Scott Eblin – Overworked and Overwhelmed - The Mindfulness Alternative Douglas Conant TouchPoints: Creating Powerful Leadership Connections in the Smallest of Moments Timberland Company Story Skillsoft Mindscaling.com Summarized Show Notes Very unique quotes throughout the book that Shawn collected Innovation comes from mashing up – putting different disparate ideas together to make new values and combinatory thinking Difference between creativity, innovation and invention. Coach people to do little small micro changes. Large changes take small incremental progress over time. To coach someone to become more innovative – you coach people to be more creative – you conceptually create. Then you recognize where you take action. Sense of wellbeing and contribution at work– comes from your intrinsic motivation. Sense of meaningful, incremental progress in your work. The Happiness Advantage: The Seven Principles of Positive Psychology that Fuel Success and Performance at Work by Shawn Achor- start with lack of something or feeling good about what you’ve achieved. Happiness comes from the success you have enjoyed and what you have achieved; as if our own competence creates confidence. Big fan of gratitude thinking and journaling, and competence in your work, it creates a higher level of confidence. Practice, hard work, tenacity. Does happiness precede success, or do we have to be happy first to be successful? Happiness precedes success. The notion of the impostor syndrome, notion that you feel like you are a fraud and you will be revealed as an impostor. You don’t deserve the bonus, job etc. Maya Angelou was afflicted with deep sense of self doubt that she was a fraud. Kate Winslet is another example. The more success you enjoy – the more you are surrounded with more successful people which compounds the problem which brings in more self-doubt. The key to the problem is to stop comparing - it is a form of self-sabotage. When you let go, you find more self-satisfaction in what you are doing If you assume the very best in yourself, capabilities and deservedness - then by extension - you do this with other people, that they have the best intentions. An expectation of excellence: when you believe that those around you have the capacity to do excellent work, they automatically start performing to match that expectation. That can get you over your head. Ability and challenge - there is an intersection where the challenge and skill meet, this sweet spot known as flow. The key with finding flow is very personal. Shawn speaks about effort and grit and the way of coaxing out creativity and performance. Evidence based theory – Angela Duckworth. When you tell someone that they are brilliant. They will get that heroic status. They will adopt of status of brilliance. Inversely when you give people this status they also believe it is hard work that got them there and not their brilliance. They will choose for themselves harder challenges because of the reward system. To build in natural growth. IF they think they are naturally brilliant they will choose tasks within their sweet spot and will be less likely to be challenging themselves. Matthew May - innovation workshop session - importance of transparency. To create a sense of transparency in the organization. During the workshop - game where you have to have the right balance of ingredients for a trip to the moon. There is actually a correct answer for the equation for the game. Unbeknownst to anyone else, he took the most junior member of the team at table and he gave them the key code to answer the puzzle. They could do anything to say that they had the answer without saying they had the correct answer. No one got it right, everyone lost.As a leader, or manager or boss - can you induce a sense of flow into someone else? No, but you can create the conditions for it. You can create the challenge and the circumstance. Push people outside of the comfort zone if it’s within the scope of their capacity. Energizers and de-energizers in a company. Different people energy in a work environment. What does it mean to be fully engaged and present in a team? Power disparities in a workplace. When someone is newly elevated to a position of power. When someone leaves with you - do they leave confused, depressed, angry, annoyed. Or do you leave provoked to the point of encouragement, poised? These type of people tend to be talent attractors. In war for talent - you will never hear anyone say that they will stay irrespective of relationship with their boss. The Boss is the direct relation to their relationship with the company. Whomever you are speaking with or interacting with, to give someone the gift of your time is a honor and an obligation. Leadership presence requires that you are present. Scott Elbin - Mindfulness and bringing this back into the workplace. Book by Douglas Conant (CEO of Campbell’s soup), absolutely practices what he preaches. In a room full of people he will be so patient and so thoughtful with every individual in the room. Scaling leadership is by taking the time and being immensely present in the moment. How do you accomplish this from a practical point of view? It’s a conscientious choice. Stand up, close your computer - intentionally remove the distraction. The mere presence of a smartphone between us - distracts you. The anticipation - distracts your mind from the immediacy of the conversation. Be as present as you can. The idea of a Digital Sabbath - starting Friday evening - until Sunday evening, turning everything off. Spend time together with your family. Control the technology and don’t let the technology control you. What am I capable of becoming in a year? Aspiration. Envisioning clearly and with as much detail as possible is critically important to motivating you. Paint it with as much detail as you can. Shawn’s recommendation - strategic stories. Stories with a purpose. Within many organizations, there’s a story where in the telling of the story conveys the value of the organization. Story of Timberland’s annual conference - they choose cities with economic distress where they can provide some pro-social value and community building. Story of when they went to New Orleans after Katrina is inspiring. Push forward. You deserve to be where you are in your life and take the next step. This episode is sponsored by the CIO Scoreboard, reducing the complexity of your IT Security initiatives. All methods of how to access the show are below: Listen on iTunes (for iPhones etc.) Listen to it on Stitcher (This is for Android Phone Users. Download the Stitcher app here) Stream it on Libsyn Listen to it on Soundcloud (This is for listening via PC/Mac Browser) Please subscribe here to Bill Murphy’s Redzone Podcast on iTunes Subscribe to my RSS Feed here LinkedIn Blog Post Leave a podcast review here How do I leave a review? Bill Murphy is a world renowned IT Security Expert dedicated to your success as an IT Business Leader. You can find him online through LinkedIn and Twitter. Subscribe to weekly podcast updates and information about CIO Mastermind Discussion Topics here.

Catch up with the ladies this brunch as they chat breakfast in Venice, lovely lingerie, and how to Netflix ‘n chill with your long distance bestie. Sara is shamed by an adult meeting with a teenage heartthrob, while Rachael rejects the notions of a DIY sushi party. Finally, the dark strikes fear in the ladies' hearts as they reminisce about a very spooooooky 90s nostalgia. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Shawn Hunter is the author of Out Think: How Innovative Leaders Drive Exceptional Outcomes. Shawn is Executive Producer & Vice President for Leadership Development Channel at Skillsoft. For over a decade Hunter has interviewed, collaborated with, and filmed, hundreds of leading business authors, executives, and business school faculty in an effort to assemble video learning solutions, as both an entrepreneur and later as a product developer for Skillsoft. In this interview, we discuss how leaders drive positive outcomes by doing simple, yet remarkable things.

April 22, 2014 Heat Entrepreneur Eve Wright & How to Out Think w Shawn Hunter

This edition of Georgia Wrestling Now, hosted by Jonathan Williams, Josh Wheeler, and Johnny Danger, featured Shawn Hunter.

Scheeduled Guests: Shawn Hunter discusses the real seeds of innovation. Kathleen Richardson- Mauro and Jane Johnson shows how to sell a business at the maximum profit. Former Navy SEAL, Mark Divine shows what the Seals can teach small business owners. Dmitri Leonov demonstrates the trick to getting your email box to zero! Sponsored by Sage North America and Nextiva.

Rider Strong, who you may remember as Shawn Hunter on Boy Meets World, is all grown up now and making his own movies. He is currently crossing the country with his brother Shiloh Strong promoting their three independent films The Dungeon Master, Method and Irish Twins. They are currently being shown at conventions and film festivals across America and all are receiving rave reviews. Please join us as we chat with Rider about his independent film making and upcoming projects. You can check out his current work with Shiloh on http://www.strongbrothersmagicshow.com/ .   If you have a questions or Rider twitter us @TheVRO

Sunday, Monday, Happy Thursday ! In this episode of Too Much Information, Danny Lobell, Dan Naturman and Justy Dodge are joined by guests Adam Mansbach, Henry Winkler and Rider Strong.. The first guest is Mansbach, who is the author of “Go the F*** to Sleep.” The crew expected him to be a nerdy white professor yet they were surprised when he turned out to be a black guy stuck in a Jew’s body. Our favorite, “Jackie Mason,” stopped by to read from the book. The second guest is the legendary Henry Winkler. Even though most know the legend for his part in the sitcom “Happy Days,” he has written a book titled “I Never Met an Idiot on the River.” Danny knew Winkler was a big Obama fan and asked about his feelings on the Israeli policies. The crew was also intrigued to know who he can and cannot call up. They name drop and the conversation goes on. The third guest was Rider Strong, known for his character Shawn Hunter on the 90’s sitcom "Boy Meets World." Strong has donated money to help reintroduce wolves to Yellowstone in the past, which leads to a conversation on werewolves. Danny tells a story of how when he was a child he would have nightmares of werewolves chasing him and a friend. Whether or not Rider has hooked up with co-star Danielle Fishell, Topanga on "Boys Meets World," is a hot topic of conversation. And surprisingly, Dan Naturman is NOT in a horrid mood!