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Join the hosts as they take you through all the news from around the world and across the UK.  In this week's show: Cathay Pacific apologises for serving alcohol to a 3 year old child on a flight to London – nothing like starting them early! London's Heathrow airport reports April 2025 being their busiest April on record - and more IT woes - not at Heathrow for a change, but this time at Stansted airport – time to upgrade from those 56K modems methinks.    In the military: The US Navy has allegedly lost a second F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter jet from an aircraft carrier in the Red Sea, and Rolls-Royce wins a £563 million RAF Typhoon fighter jet engine contract. Take part in our chatroom to help shape the conversation of the show. You can get in touch with us all at : WhatsApp +447446975214 Email podcast@planetalkinguk.com or comment in our chatroom on YouTube.

Plug in to your worst nightmare. Technology Terror month continues with 1993's GHOST IN THE MACHINE. A serial killer's soul is transferred into a computer network after a freak accident, allowing him to continue his deadly spree through the electrical grid. As victims pile up, a determined woman, her tech-savvy son, and a skilled hacker team up to stop him before it's too late. Did The Boys find this one to be broad band quality or 56K? Find out here! Also this week: Our first computers, the return of "the butt cut", and Lance rants on A Minecraft Movie memes and a grumpy gas station Patron. All this--and a whole lot more--on this week's episode of NEON BRAINIACS! "Excuse me... a little stiff. Caught a b**** of a virus." ----- Check out our Patreon for tons of bonus content, exclusive goodies, and access to our Discord server! ----- Ghost in the Machine (1993) Directed by Rachel Talalay Written by William Davies and William Osborne Starring Karen Allen, Chris Mulkey, Ted Marcoux, and Will Horneff ----- 00:00 - Intro & Opening Banter 37:00 - "The Schpiel" 45:42 - Film Breakdown 01:49:22 - Stump The Brainiacs & Outro

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In this episode, host Justin Mihaly and guest Nickie Froiland dive into high-level business strategy, leadership challenges, and personal growth. They discuss how visionaries can effectively communicate their ideas, the role of personal branding, and why discomfort is necessary for success. Justin shares how refining sales processes led to a major revenue breakthrough, while Nickie reflects on the balance between impact and self-worth. If you're a leader, entrepreneur, or high performer looking to scale, this episode is packed with insights you can apply immediately.Key Topics Covered:- Communicating your vision clearly to your team- How refining sales processes led to $56K over goal- The power of personal branding for business success- Finding balance between ambition and fulfillment- Why discomfort is necessary for growth- Overcoming mindset blocks around self-worth- Using flowcharts to optimize business operationsTimestamps:- [00:00 - 01:04] - Past frustrations & business wins​- [01:04 - 03:04] - Leadership struggles: Clear expectations vs. assumptions​- [03:04 - 05:34] - Breaking down sales processes: The role of flowcharts​- [05:34 - 06:55] - Personalization in sales: How to connect with prospects​- [06:55 - 08:45] - The impact of refining sales tactics: $56K over the goal​- [08:45 - 10:27] - Is this sustainable? Evaluating long-term sales strategies​- [10:27 - 12:15] - The challenge of balancing revenue & business evolution​- [12:15 - 15:02] - Identifying gaps: Why some businesses struggle to scale​- [15:02 - 17:48] - Personal branding: The key to long-term business growth​- [17:48 - 20:30] - Overcoming resistance: The fear of attaching self-worth to metrics​- [20:30 - 24:15] - Understanding your audience: Where should you be marketing?​- [24:15 - 27:30] - Social media strategy: Engagement, reach, and conversions​- [27:30 - 30:42] - The reality of business investments & opportunity costs​- [30:42 - 35:50] - Why most people never move past the discomfort phase​- [35:50 - 38:10] - The importance of coaching & finding a mentor​- [38:10 - 41:05] - Breaking down the visionary mindset: How to make your ideas clear​- [41:05 - 43:55] - The power of flowcharts: Simplifying business communication​- [43:55 - 46:40] - Structuring meetings for maximum clarity & execution​- [46:40 - 50:15] - Action items: Refining leadership, sales, and branding​- [50:15 - 55:00] - Final thoughts: Growth, discomfort, and creating impact​Links & Resources:Work With Nickie: ⁠⁠https://motus9.com/contact/⁠⁠Follow Me On Instagram: @jmihaly_Follow "Grow or Die" On Instagram: @growordiepodcastSign Up For The Together More Elite Mentorship: ⁠⁠https://bl1yxjc3x33.typeform.com/to/aP7HdI1h?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYajjmM91S6U9K27sUGocvoXUkoAyqwbZugxL7AbRQKuwAPbb9OCtBKZ1k_aem_k9qBlOswLYhyBiq9UMxNHw&typeform-source=l.instagram.com⁠

In this episode, Ron Apke sits down with Kyle Scott, a full-time software developer and part-time land investor.  Kyle shares how he started investing in in-fill lots in Florida during the pandemic and scaled his side hustle to $56K in 2024, working just 7 hours a week. He discusses his efficient systems for marketing, handling incoming calls, and his goals for 2025, including focusing on bigger deals like subdivides with a $150K profit target. Kyle also dives into the personal growth and lessons he's gained along the way, from overcoming challenges with soil tests and probate deals to the mindset shifts that have helped him stay committed. He offers advice for aspiring land investors, stressing the importance of consistency and leveraging community support.  Tune in for actionable tips and insights on building a successful land business while maintaining a full-time career! ================================  WANT TO GET STARTED? ⁠⁠https://landinvestingonline.com/starter-guide-phone/⁠⁠ ================================ SOCIAL Ron's Instagram

This show has been flagged as Explicit by the host. Greetings and welcome to Hacker Public Radio. My name is Peter Paterson, also known as SolusSpider, a Scotsman living in Kentucky, USA. This is my second HPR recording. The first was episode 4258 where I gave my introduction and computer history. Once again I am recording the audio on my Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra phone, running Android 14, with Audio Recorder by Axet. The app was installed from F-Droid. Markdown For my Shownotes I learned to use Markdown by using the ReText app, which allows me to write in one window and preview the result in another. What is this show about? When I visited Archer72, AKA Mark Rice, in November 2024 in his University of Kentucky trauma room I reminded him that I work for God's Pantry Food Bank. He said he wanted to hear more, and highly suggested that I record the story as an HPR show, so here we are. I plan to ask the questions I hear from so many, and attempt to answer them as best I am able. What is the History of God's Pantry Food Bank? Reading directly from the About-Us page of Godspantry.org Mim Hunt, the founder of God's Pantry Food Bank, vowed to leave "the heartbreaking profession of social work" behind when she returned to her hometown of Lexington after serving as a child welfare worker in 1940's New York City. She and her husband, Robert, opened "Mim's," a combination gift shop, antique gallery, and health food store, but after seeing poverty in Lexington that rivaled what she'd fought against in New York, she found herself unable to remain silent. Mim began her work in Lexington by filling her station wagon with food, clothing, and bedding, and distributing it directly to individuals in need. Soon, neighbors were bringing food donations to what became known as "Mim's Pantry" located at her home on Lexington's Parkers Mill Road. But Mim quickly corrected them. "I don't fill these shelves," she said. "God does. This is God's Pantry." God's Pantry Food Bank was born out of this work in 1955 and remained mobile until the first pantry was opened in 1959. Since its founding, the food bank has grown in many ways. What started with one woman attempting to do what she could to address a need is now an organization serving 50 counties in Central and Eastern Kentucky through a number of programs with a dedicated staff committed to the mission of solving hunger. Mim Hunt devoted her life to helping others, and we continue to honor her legacy at God's Pantry Food Bank. Her work is proof that one person, with every small action, can make a large impact. We invite you to join us in continuing Mim's work. Where have been the locations of the main Food Bank facility? My ex-workmate Robert Srodulski recently wrote a reply in Facebook when our newest building was announced. He stated: "If I count right, this is the 6th main warehouse location in Lexington. Congratulations! > Mim's house and car Oldham Avenue garage A building next to Rupp Arena (which is now gone) Forbes Road Jaggie Fox Way, Innovation Drive." My friend Robert was employed by the Food Bank for 26 years. I am chasing his time as the longest lasting male employee. Two ladies have longer service times: Debbie Amburgey with 36.5 years in our Prestonsburg facility. She started on 19th October 1987. Sadly my good friend Debbie passed earlier this year, and I miss her greatly. She never retired. Danielle Bozarth with currently just under 30 years. She started on 30th May 1995. It would take me just over 11 years to catch up with Debbie's service record, which would take me to the age of 68. Unsure if I shall still be employed by then! What exactly do I mean by Food Bank? In February 2023 I wrote a blog post with my explanation of Food Bank. My website is LinuxSpider.net, and you will find the direct link in the shownotes. The blog was written as a response to friends, mostly from the United Kingdom, asking me very this question. To many there, and indeed here in USA also, what is called a Food Bank is what I call a local Food Pantry. Nobody is wrong here at all. We all gather food from various sources and distribute it to our neighbours who are in food insecure need. Most Pantries are totally staffed by volunteers and often open limited hours. The Food Bank has a larger scope in where we source food from, the amount sourced, does have paid staff but still dependent on volunteers, and we are open at least 40 hours a week. More if you include projects that involve evenings and Saturdays. God's Pantry Food Bank has a service area which includes 50 of the 120 Counties of Kentucky, covering central, southern, and eastern, including part of Appalachia. When I started in 1999 we were distributing 6 million pounds weight of food per year. This is about 150 semi-truckloads. Over 25 years later we are looking at distributing about 50 million pounds this year, about 1,250 truckloads. Over 40% of our distribution is fresh produce. We are an hunger relief organisation, so this amount of food is assisting our neighbours in need. In those 50 Counties we have about 400 partner agencies. Many of these agencies are Soup Kitchens, Children's Programs, Senior Programs, as well as Food Pantries. God's Pantry Food Bank is partnered with the Feeding America network of 198 Food Banks. In my early years I knew them as America's Second Harvest. In 2008 they changed name to Feeding America. Their website is FeedingAmerica.org What they do is outlined in their our-work page, including: Ensuring everyone can get the food they need with respect and dignity. Advocating for policies that improve food security for everyone. Partnering to address the root causes of food insecurity, like the high cost of living and lack of access to affordable housing. Working with local food banks and meal programs. Ending hunger through Food Access, Food Rescue, Disaster Response, and Hunger Research. I have visited a few other Food Banks, but not as many as I would have liked. We all have our own areas of service, but do often interact as the needs arise, especially in times of disaster. The Feeding America network came to Kentucky's aid in the past few years with the flooding in the East and tornadoes in the West. Feeding America aided the Food Banks affected by the devastation from Hurricanes Helene and Milton. How did I get started at the Food Bank? As mentioned in my introduction show I moved from Scotland to Kentucky in May 1999 and married Arianna in June 1999. Before our wedding I had received my green card. My future Mother-in-Law Eva recommended I check with God's Pantry Food Bank to see if they were hiring. She was working for Big Lots and had applied for a warehouse job at the Food Bank. Unfortunately for her she never got the job, but she was quite impressed by the organisation. She knew that I had warehouse and driving experience. So, one day after dropping Arianna at her University of Kentucky Medical Staff Office I stopped by the Food Bank on South Forbes Road to ask. The answer was that they were indeed hiring for the warehouse, and to come back that afternoon to meet with CW Drury, the Warehouse Manager. I drove home, put on smarter clothes, and drove back. It was a pleasure meeting CW and hearing about the job. Although most of the explanation of what they did in their mission went over my head at the time, I knew needed a job, and wanted to join this company. A few days before our wedding I received a phone call from CW offering me the position. I accepted and went for my medical the next day. My first day with God's Pantry Food Bank was on Tuesday 6th July 1999, the day after our honeymoon. I will admit that although my previous job in Scotland was a physical one, quite a few months had passed, and the heat was hot that Summer in Kentucky! I went home exhausted everyday, but totally enjoying the work I was doing. I started off mostly picking orders, assisting Agencies that came in, going to the local Kroger supermarkets to pick up bread, deliver and pick up food barrels of donations, and all the other duties CW assigned me to. I particularly enjoyed the software part of the job. I forget the name of the software back then, but do remember learning the 10 digit Item Codes. 1st is the source 2nd and 3rd are the category. There are 31 officially with Feeding America. next 6 is the unique UPC - usually from the item bar code 10th is the storage code of dry, cooler, or freezer The first code I memorised was Bread Products: 1040010731 This broke down to Donated, Bread Category, UPC number, and Dry Storage. I must admit we did not create a new code when we started storing Bread Product in the Cooler. That is probably the only exception It has been my responsibility all these years to maintain the Item Category Code sheet with different codings we have used and had to invent. An example is that when the source digit had already used 1 to 9, we had to start using letters. Although there were concerns at the time, everything worked out well. When I started at South Forbes Road there were 11 employees there and Debbie in Prestonsburg. 12 in total, in 2 locations. These days we have over 80 employees in 5 locations: Lexington, Prestonsburg, London, Morehead, and a Volunteer Center on Winchester Road, Lexington, near the Smuckers JIF Peanut Butter plant. My time at 104 South Forbes Road was for a full 4 weeks! In August 1999 we moved to 1685 Jaggie Fox Way, into a customised warehouse with 3 pallet tall racking, and lots of office space. It felt so large back then! On my first couple of days of unloading trucks there I totally wore out a pair of trainers!! Jaggie Fox does sound like a strange name for a street, but I later learned it came from 2 ladies, Mrs Jaggie and Mrs Fox who owned the land before the business park purchase. Anyway, that's what I have been told by mulitple people. Technology was fun in 1999, as we had a 56K phone modem, about 10 computers, and 1 printer. You can imagine the shared internet speed. I forget how long, but we eventually got DSL, then Cable. What have been my duties at the Food Bank? For my first decade of employment I worked the warehouse and as a driver. This included delivering food to the 4 to 5 local pantries that we ran ourselves in local church buildings in Fayette County. Funny story is that a couple of years into the job, I was approached by the Development Manager and asked if I knew websites and HTML. I informed her that I was familiar, and she made me responsible for the maintenance of the website that University of Kentucky students had created. It indeed was quite basic with only HTML and images. I had this duty for a few years before a professional company was hired. I mentioned Inventory software. In early 2000 we moved to an ERP, that is an Enterprise Resource Planning suite named Navision written by a Danish company. That company was then taken over by Microsoft. For as while it was called Microsoft NAV, and these days it is part of Dynamics 365. Feeding America commissioned a module named CERES which assisted us non-profits to use profit orientated software. Inhouse, we just call the software CERES. Even though I was no longer maintaining the website, I was still involved in IT to a degree. I became the inhouse guy who would set up new employees with their own computer. Ah, the days of Active Directory. I never did like it! I was also the guy the staff came to first with their computer problems. Funny how a lot of these issues were fixed when I walked in their office. If I could not fix an issue there and then, we did have a contract company on-call. They maintained our server and other high level software. This was still when I was in the warehouse role. After that first decade I was allocated to be our Welcome Center person, which I did for 3 years. This involved welcoming agencies, guests, salespersons, volunteers, and assisting other staff members in many ways. I also went from being a driver to the person who handed out delivery and pick-up routes to the drivers. During these years I became a heavy user of CERES working with the agencies and printing out pick-sheets to our warehouse picking staff. Although I really enjoyed the work, I will openly admit that I am not always the best in heavily social situations. I did have some difficulty when the Welcome Center was full of people needing my attention and I was trying to get software and paperwork duties done. Somehow I survived! My next stage of employment was moving into the offices and becoming the assistant to the Operations Director. This is when I really took on the role of food purchaser, ordering fresh produce and food from vendors as part of our budget. I also took over the responsibility of bidding for food donations from the Feeding America portal named Choice. National Donors offer truckloads of food and other items to the network, and we Food Banks bid on them in an allocated share system. The donations are free, but we pay for the truck freight from the shipping locations. A full time IT person was hired. We are now on our 4th IT Manager. The last 2 each had assistants. Although I am grandfathered in as an admin, my duties in this regard are very low, but still have the abity to install software as needed. Quite handy on my own laptop. As well as being the Food Procurement Officer I also became the Reporting Officer. This has been greatly aided by our team receiving the ability to write our own reports from the Navision SQL database using Jet Reporting. This is an Excel extension that allows us to access field data not directly obtainable in the CERES program. The fore-mentioned Robert Srodulski used to spend a day creating a monthly report that included all of our 50 counties across multiple categories of data. He would step by step complete an Excel worksheet with all this information. I took his spreadsheet, converted it into a Jet Report, and it now runs in about 5 minutes! It is my responsibility to supply reports on a regular monthly, quarterly, and yearly basis to my Directors, fellow staff, and to Feeding America. Yes, I do have an orange mug on my desk that says "I submitted my MPR". That is the Monthly Pulse Report. It sits next to my red swingline stapler! What are God's Pantry Food Bank's sources of food? This is probably the question I get asked the most when friends and online contacts find out what I do for a career. We receive and obtain food from various sources, including: Local donations from people like you. Thank you! Local farmers. Local retail companies and other businesses giving food directly to us and to our Partner Agencies. We are the official food charity of many retailers, including Walmart and Kroger. National Companies, mostly through the Feeding America Choice Program. The USDA, U.S. Department of Agriculture, supplies us with multiple programs of food: TEFAP (the Emergency Food Assistance Program), CCC (Commodity Credit Corporation), and CSFP (Commodity Supplemental Food Program). Purchased food, including Fresh Produce, via donations and grants. Without all this food coming in, we would not be able to distribute to our internal programs or to our partner agencies, allowing them to run Backpacks for Kids, Food Boxes for Seniors, Food Pantries, Mobile Distributions, Sharing Thanksgiving, and a multitude of other services we offer our neighbours. We have a team of Food Sourcers that work directly with the retail companies, so I am not fully involved there, but I am the main Food Purchaser for the majority of the food we buy. Specialised internal programs like Backpack and local Pantries do order specific foods that they need on a regular basis. I try to supply for the long term. With the USDA CSFP program I am responsible for the ordering of that food through a Government website. Often 6 to 12 months ahead of time. Here's a truth that staggers many people when I inform them: If you are spending cash on food donations to God's Pantry Food Bank, the most efficient use of those funds is to donate it to us. I truly can obtain about $10 worth of food for every $1 given. An example is that I recently obtained a full truckload donation of 40,000lb of Canned Sliced Beets (yum!) that we are paying only freight on. Do the maths. #Where is God's Pantry Food Bank located? As mentioned we have 5 locations, not including our own local pantries, but our main head office is at 2201 Innovation Drive Please check out our webpage at GodsPantry.org/2201innovationdrive as it includes an excellent animated walk-through tour of the offices and warehouse, including the Produce Cooler, Deli Cooler, and Freezer. They are massive! I personally waited until the very last day, Friday 13th of December, to move out of my Jaggie Fox office and into my new one at Innovation. Our official first day was on Monday 16th December 2024. What I tooted and posted on that Friday caught the eye of my CEO, Michael Halligan, and he asked me if he could share it with others. Of course he should! In the Shownotes I have included a link to my Mastodon toot. It's too long a number to read out. I am absolutely loving our new location. It's my challenge to fill the cooler, freezer, and dry warehouse with donated food! My new office is 97% set up to my workflow, including my infamous hanging report boards, and spiders everywhere. The last line of my blog says: All that said, it truly is the only job I have ever had which I absolutely enjoy, but totally wish did not exist!! This remains true. Our mission is: Reducing hunger by working together to feed Kentucky communities. Our vision is: A nourished life for every Kentuckian. #How may HPR listeners support God's Pantry Food Bank The quick answer is to go to our website of GodsPantry.org and click on Take Action. From there you will be given a list to choose from: Donate Food Volunteer Host a Food Drive or Fundraiser Become a Partner Attend an Event Advocate Other Ways to Help Thank you so much for listening to my HPR show on God's Pantry Food Bank. Apart from leaving a comment on the HPR show page, the easiest ways for people to contact me are via Telegram: at t.me/solusspider or Mastodon at @SolusSpider@linuxrocks.online I look forward to hearing from you. Now go forth, be there for your fellow neighbours, and record your own HPR show! … Adding this comment to the Shownotes, that I shall not be speaking aloud. Although I consider this show topic to be Clean, as it is basically about my life and work, not my beliefs, there may be some worldwide who hear the name God's Pantry and consider it to be religious. Therefore I am flagging the show as Explicit. just in case. It is merely the name of our non-profit Food Bank, as called by our founder Mim Hunt. Although the majority of our Partner Agencies are faith based non-profit organisations, the Food Bank itself is not faith based. … Provide feedback on this episode.

Ford Motor Company doesn't see the all-new 2025 Ford Expedition as just another big SUV. It has a larger purpose in mind. Expedition Brand Manager Luis Perez told AOTR Host Jack Nerad that Ford wants to influence American families to spend more quality time together. So, they have created a massive vehicle that is full of innovation and capability. Nerad was part of a small cadre of journalists who got early access to the 2025 Expedition and its executives, engineers, and product planners. In this episode, we will share his in-depth interview with Perez, giving you uncommon insight into the creation of the new Expedition and the intriguing features that set it apart from other large SUVs. Our road test segment this week gives you a double dose of Toyota. Co-host Chris Teague was at the wheel of the 2025 Toyota Camry XSE AWD. Toyota has gone all-hybrid with the Camry in this all-new iteration of one of America's most popular vehicles, and Teague will provide his verdict on the result. At the same time Teague was driving the all-new Camry at one end of the country, Jack Nerad was driving the all-new 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser at the other. The legendary Toyota Land Cruiser returns after a hiatus in a more compact version that is the original 1958 model that introduced the model to the U.S. Of course, the '58 Land Cruiser didn't sport a hybrid powertrain, a variety of electronic driver assistance technology and a sophisticated infotainment system, but, as they say, the more things stay the same, the more they change. What has stayed the same is the Land Cruiser's stout all-terrain prowess. Pricing for the 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser starts with the 1958 trim at a base manufacturer's suggested retail price of $55,950, and that's the model Nerad tested. It features retro-styled round headlights and TOYOTA spelled out on its throwback grille. Cloth seats and the eight-inch touchscreen indicate its modest aspirations and desire to keep the price accessible if you can call $56K accessible. Teague and Nerad will share more thoughts on the model. Car buyers could be hitting a double-whammy this weekend as a couple of factors combine to make buying a new car even harder. The hurricane and the recently settled longshoremen's strike have combined to throw a wrench into car buying. We'll give you strategies that can help you get the best deal you can. Also in the news, hydrogen fuel cell technology is getting a second look, and we'll tell you which major global automaker might put more money into the technology as a solution to battery-electric vehicle's continued issues. We'll have our thoughts coming up. We'll also tell you which major manufacturer is telling owners of one of its showcase vehicles to avoid parking them in their garages until further notice. That's an interesting story. So we have a lot of show for you this week. Thanks for joining us, and don't forget to look for new content on our YouTube and Rumble channels. America on the Road is brought to you by Driving Today.com, Mercury Insurance, and EMLandsea.com , the publisher of Nerad's latest book, Dance in the Dark, which is available HERE on Amazon.com

[SEGMENT 2-1] Blocking Trump Democrats tried to block President Trump from honoring the 13 Marines killed in Afghanistan. Speaker Johnson intervened…  [SEGMENT 2-2] America-hating Leftists In MA, they diverted funds from American citizens who are students, and made buses available for illegals… 150 Stoughton students were left without transportation   Who stops a kid from flying an AMERICAN FLAG?! And in OKLAHOMA? These are the stories where we need to rally the Conservative troops. Send flags to that school and blanket the campus!!  [SEGMENT 2-3] Multiculturalism   [X] SB – Trump on multiculturalism in Europe [X] SB – Katie Hopkins on Notting Hill carnival   [X] SB – Migrants try to board a school bus    [SEGMENT 2-4] Leftism and homelessness   [X] SB – CA spent $24 billion on homelessness and it went up $24B over 5 years. Almost $5B per year They could have given 50,000 people $100K per year. $56K before the fight to stop homeless started $28K And this doesn't include all that they qualify for right now.     Voter registration scam. When you hear those words, what do you think? [X] SB – MI voter registration scam   Look at what Facebook admitted to doing. Suppressing negative information in Hunter Biden and Covid. Zuckerberg now apologizes    Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-kevin-jackson-show--2896352/support.

Imagine the God of Heaven - John Burke Watch this video presentation at- https://youtu.be/FC0u-BcEWp4?si=hDfT99UhReIE5_UT The Story Church 2.56K subscribers 12,029 views Feb 5, 2024 John Burke, the New York Times best-selling author of "Imagine Heaven" and founding pastor of Gateway Church in Austin, shares a powerful message based on his latest book "Imagine the God of Heaven". From his extensive research and interviews with hundreds of people - from all backgrounds and religions - about their near-death experiences, one thing has stood out: they've come back with a new experience of who God is, what it's like to truly feel his love, and how scripture can help explain the mystery and majesty of God's character that they discovered first hand. In this special teaching, John Burke seeks to answer an important question for all skeptics and believers: what is God really like? About the book – Imagine the God of Heaven: Near-Death Experiences, God's Revelation, and the Love You've Always Wanted.  Audible Audiobook – Unabridged John Burke (Author, Narrator),  4.9 4.9 out of 5 stars    590 ratings #1 Best Seller in Near-Death Experiences 1K+ bought or read in past month See all formats and editions Millions of people around the world have reported a near-death experience. Do they prove the existence of a loving God? Never in history, until now, have we been able to hear from so many people around the world who have been brought back from clinical death. Modern medical resuscitation and digital communication have revealed a goldmine of intriguing near-death experiences (NDEs) that show us the character of God. John Burke has spent the last three decades studying the commonalities of more than 1000 NDEs. His investigative journey started as a skeptical agnostic, when his own father was dying from cancer. When he first read these eyewitness accounts, he couldn't help asking himself: “Could this be real evidence—even possible proof of God's existence?” In this book, you will discover: Analysis of 1000+ near-death experiences and how they reveal the wondrous attributes of God and correlate with the Bible Follow up research to Burke's exploration of the afterlife, Imagine Heaven, a New York Times best-seller of over 1 million copies True stories from nearly 70 people from every continent who have died, been resuscitated, and now testify to having been more alive than ever in the presence of a loving God they never wanted to leave People of all ethnicities and backgrounds―including doctors, engineers, and CEO―experience the same God. John Burke unveils the love story and characteristics of this God of all nations, revealed throughout history and in Scripture, now illustrated by these thrilling encounters. You will realize God's love, power, compassion, friendship, and guidance are closer than you could ever imagine. And for such a time as this, people need to know a loving God is within their reach.  

The end of the crab-like movement of Bitcoin's price might be on our doorstep, with analysts predicting the U.S. Consumer Price Index and Producer Price Index coming May 14 and 15 could have a dramatic impact. While most traders are quietly bullish based on the charts, anything unexpected in the U.S. macro data releases or said by Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell could knock BTC in either direction. Elsewhere, Tether's CEO claps back at the Ripple CEO over the comments covered in yesterday's episode, and memecoins caught a 24-hour rally, but what caused it?Further reading:Bitcoin price shows strength as investors anticipate return of money printingBitcoin bottomed at $56K? BTC price chart hints at breakout within daysJapanese listed firm adds Bitcoin as reserve asset with 117 BTCBitcoin miner Bitfarms CEO to depart immediately in response to lawsuitTether discredits Ripple CEO comments over US scrutinyGameStop sparked the 2021 memecoin bull run — Will history repeat itself?Pepe hits all-time high, memecoins soar after famous GameStop stock trader ‘returns'So, grab yourself a coffee, and let's get into it!Rise'n'Crypto is brought to you by Cointelegraph and is hosted and produced by Robert Baggs. You can follow Robert on Twitter and LinkedIn. Cointelegraph's Twitter: @CointelegraphCointelegraph's website: cointelegraph.comThe views, thoughts and opinions expressed in this podcast are its participants' alone and do not necessarily reflect or represent the views and opinions of Cointelegraph. This podcast (and any related content) is for entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice, nor should it be taken as such. Everyone must do their own research and make their own decisions. The podcast's participants may or may not own any of the assets mentioned.

EP #29 - Spiritual Chit Chat & 2024 Predictions with David the Medium  

Ikke et afsnit 56K uden Elon. Elon Musk har præsenteret en demo af Teslas Optimus-robot, der nu kan folde en t-shirt på et bord. Det lyder simpelt, men er det nu også det? Musk har ambitioner om at Optimus vil fungere som en fuldt funktionsdygtig husrobot inden for 5år. Hvis du føler at kvaliteten af ​​Googles søgeresultater er blevet dårligere, så har du nok ret. Årsagen er, at affiliate marketing og dårlige websites, fylder internettet med elendig skrammelindhold. Google og alle andre søgemaskiner er udfordret, men hvad kan de gøre for at kæmpe tilbage?  Verdens største tech-event CES er lige afsluttet, og der var som altid kæmpe nyheder. Den største var Rabbit R1, som er en ambitiøst AI-drevet gadget til $199, designet til at erstatte din smartphone på sigt. Rabbit kan styre musik, bestille biler, købe dagligvarer, og sende beskeder gennem stemmestyring. Verdens største tech-event CES er lige afsluttet, og der var som altid kæmpe nyheder. Den største var Rabbit R1, som er en ambitiøst AI-drevet gadget til $199, designet til at erstatte din smartphone på sigt. Rabbit kan styre musik, bestille biler, købe dagligvarer, og sende beskeder gennem stemmestyring. Og hvis det ikke var nok, så kan du høre mere om Samsung Ballie, høretelefoner der kan oversætte alle sprog, dansende planter, og personaliseret indhold til din hund.  

L'histoire d'Internet est connue et largement documentée, de la création du réseau par l'armée américaine jusqu'à Tiktok en passant par le minitel et les modems 56K qui font « ding dong ». Ce que propose Félix Tréguer, membre fondateur de La Quadrature du Net et chercheur au CNRS, c'est peut-être tout l'inverse : une Contre-histoire d'internet, du Xve siècle à nos jours (Éditions Agone), soit une archéologie du réseau, de la logique algorithmique et de l'exploitation des métadonnées en tant que dispositifs de pouvoir et de contrôle, incorporés en nous, malgré nous. Une recherche historico-politique à contre-temps ou à contre-jour qui révèle les stratégies de pouvoir et de capture de l'espace public et cherche un chemin pour sortir de cette dichotomie qui nous enferme dès que nous tentons de penser la technique : le fantasme néo-luddite ou la croyance béate en un capitalisme cognitif. Entre une fuite en arrière et un enfoncement virtuel dans le présent, tracer une fuite en avant, comme on échappe à un piège.

En el programa de hoy hacemos un viaje hacia atrás y hacia delante en el tiempo para repasar la evolución de la automoción y los vehículos que marcarán nuestro futuro. Con Jesús Callejo nos retrotraemos hasta la invención de la rueda y del ferrocarril, dos de los grandes hitos de la evolución del transporte no exentos de polémicas a lo largo de la Historia. Sergio Cordero nos recuerda grandes modelos como el Ford T (el que se considera el primer vehículo construido a gran escala), el Mercedes-Benz 260D (el primer gran ejemplo de coche con motor diésel), y el General Motors EV1 (el primer proyecto de coche eléctrico en la actual etapa). Además, miramos al futuro a través de dos modelos que ya son realidad: los motores impulsados por hidrógeno, como el Toyota Mirai, o el Cibertruck de Tesla, la apuesta más ambiciosa (y más fea) de la compañía de Elon Musk.Alberto Espinosa y Francisco Izuzquiza, mientras tanto, se pelean porque no se puede grabar un podcast que habla del futuro de la tecnología con una conexión a Internet peor que la época de los 56K. ¿O sí se puede?Lo que va más rápido que la conexión de Fran son vuestras escuchas, y gracias a ellas podemos conseguir ingresos que destinamos a acciones benéficas. En este trimestre vamos a conseguir que muchos niños reciban regalos de Papá Noel y los Reyes Magos, algo que es posible con vuestro apoyo semana tras semana. ¡Gracias por hacerlo posible! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tim Cooks besøg i Danmark, har fået de traditionelle medier til at kritisere Apple for at overse dem. For i stedet for at besøge dem, brugte Tim Cook tiden med influencere, musikere og app-udviklere. Har medierne ret i deres kritik, og hvorfor vælger Apple at gå nye veje? 56K går dybt. Den nye Elon Musk biografi, er på alles læber, og med rette. Vi har ikke læst den færdig, men det skal ikke holde os fra at fælde en dom over bogen og Elon.  Spotify går ind ind på e-book markedet, med 150.000 gratis lydbøger for abonnenter. Hvad betyder det for de etablerede spillere, og hvad betyder det for Spotify? TikTok og Meta er begyndt at kigge på modeller, hvor du kan betale for ikke at se reklamer på deres platforme. En ny indtægtskilde, men hvad betyder det for brugerne. Er reklame blevet en skat, som de “fattige” skal betale, eller en sund udvikling?  En ny service giver dig mulighed for at chatte med Jesus. AI har selvfølgelig en finger med i spillet. App'en er gratis, medmindre du vil chatte med satan. Så skal du betale… Det og meget mere i en langt afsnit af 56k

Au programme de ce vendredi 7 juillet dans la tranche information de So good Radio: quatrième et dernier jour à Montréal pour suivre le festival international Complètement Cirque. Aujourd'hui, on vous parle des meilleures déambulations piétonnes à vivre à Montréal; d'une histoire de maisons de disques autochtones qui se réapproprient l'industrie musicale canadienne; et enfin, comment certains musées canadiens décolonisent l'histoire de l'esclavage pour que mémoire soit faite.En plus de votre fil info feel good, retrouvez L'appel du good avec Fatou N'Diaye, entrepreneuse engagée et fondatrice de l'association The Wonders qui œuvre pour l'autonomisation des femmes, qui nous présente l'Observatoire des camps de réfugiés, Le peigne dans l'maillot, la formule secrète pour s'endormir un peu moins con spécial dédicace à Montréal; et enfin, la chanson qui va bien avec 56K du rappeur Québécois Loud. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

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Farnoosh dives into how she is recession-proofing her finances, along with special co-host Nicole Stanley, founder of Arise Financial Coaching. Plus: Optimizing your time and job search post-layoff. Farnoosh picks a reviewer of the week for giveaways. Listen to Nicole's past interview where she talks about battling financial anxiety and building her family's net worth to over $250K on an annual salary of $56K. Pre-order your copy of Farnoosh's next book: A Healthy State of Panic Join Farnoosh's newsletter and receive a free gift. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AT and PCT thru hiker Jacob "Crush" Pepper drops into the studio for a wide ranging and hilarious discussion of . . . everything.  Settle in, buckle up, and fasten your headlamp securely as Crush and Doc talk about: schooners, wussing out, finger feet, mountain misery, too much quilt, pop tart theories, existential thoughts, Turd Graders, SKTs, moonshine and mason jars, Tree Amigos, leveling up, lawn chair packs, Endless Zeroes, 56K modems, D&D, Tolkien and the most famous thru hike, Trench Pullers, rogue mice, Yacht Rock, postholing, charity hiking, and hotdogging.  And a lot more.  A lot. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/johnfreakinmuir/support

Do you want to get out of debt but you don't want to live on beans and rice? Are you not so much gazelle intense as you are gazelle at nap time? We are going to talk to you today about how you can be on a budget, get out of debt, save money and build wealth without having to sacrifice everything about your lifestyle. This episode is for everyone who loves Dave Ramsey and what he teaches but has a hard time implementing it in real life. We'll tell you about our clients who: Paid $2K off in 2 months while still getting her hair and nails done. Our client who paid off $56K in debt in 18 months while still going on several vacations every year. Our clients who paid off her van while also spending $1200 on groceries every month because they eat high quality food and she values her family's health so much. We will cover: Why it's your budget, your way No matter how bougie you want to be, there's always some way to start & something to trim The balance between enjoying life, being healthy & being financially responsible How to start small and eventually go bigger How to be okay with starting "Daveish" How people make things complicated as a form of self-sabotage How we unconsciousing give ourselves excuses not to start How to stop making excuses and start somewhere How there is a middle ground between beans and rice and spending all of your money every paycheck Book a free call: ⁠calendly.com/myidealbalance2/freecall⁠ Email us any questions: info@myidealbalance.com IDEAL BALANCE: How to Budget, Get Out of Debt, Save Money + Financial Systems to Organize Your Money Even successful, high-achieving, Jesus-following moms need help organizing their finances. We want to help you learn how to budget, how to get out of debt & how to save money. We do this through 1-on-1 coaching where we teach you how to stop stressing about money & install systems that automate your finances. Once you have these money systems, you'll be able to live debt-free, build wealth & achieve financial freedom. Join us to ditch the bad money habits & take control of your financial future. Shana & Vanessa are best friends, business partners & Ramsey Solutions Master Financial Coaches. Get the Digital Envelope System Our Client Used to Pay Off $17,591 in Debt and Save $23,000 in 7 Months Workbook here: h⁠ttps://ck.myidealbalance.com/deguide⁠ Connect With Us: Website → ⁠https://myidealbalance.com⁠ Podcast → ⁠https://anchor.fm/idealbalance ⁠ Facebook → ⁠https://facebook.com/MyIdealBalance⁠  YouTube→ ⁠https://youtube.com/@IdealBalance⁠  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/idealbalance/message

Most real estate investors spend way too much time on “Short-Term Equity” deals. These are the types of deals where: You find the property You fully lease it out You do all the hard work… And when it's all said and done, you only own 3% of the total equity in the deal.  Will this setup ever change your life? Probably not. But there's a better way:  It's called the “LTE” model. With this better way, I've amassed a $63 million real estate portfolio.  Best part?  I own 48% of the equity in this portfolio! So, with that all said… In today's episode, you'll discover how to take advantage of this new  equity model for yourself. You'll also find out why some apartment deals are actually jobs disguised as financial freedom.  Listen now! Show Highlights Include: Why you'll only take home 4% equity in an apartment syndication (even if you found the deal) (2:41) Think owning an apartment means you'll never work again? Here's how it can easily turn into a J.O.B. if you employ a “Short-Term Equity” model (5:12) How your investors can legally steal $720K from right under your nose (even if you're only earning $56K) (7:33) The bizarre way running your property empire like an employee—and not as a business owner—unlocks financial freedom (8:40) How to own 70% equity in your next apartment deal by trying out this “elementary” trick (14:20) Ask yourself these 3 questions to guarantee you'll only buy apartments with huge upside (15:05) The “SF” secret for getting 100% equity in your next real estate deal (without relying on investors) How to build a $63 million real estate empire with the “Long-Term Equity” model (26:59) If you liked the episode, leave me a review on whichever app you listen to podcasts on. If you want to connect with me, follow me on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/jennings.smith.50 or Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/jenningsfostersmithjr/.

We'll address the big question first: Christina Stembel of Farmgirl Flowers really did grow up on a farm. Growing up in northern Indiana, Christina was expected to fulfill her womanly duties as a wife and mother while her brother went off to college. But Christina had other plans. She hightailed it to New York within two weeks of graduating from high school and started working. Christina did not grow up with a lot of people cheering her on and wishing her success, and that made her strive for it all the more. Over some years and many different ideas, she saw that the floral industry held an opportunity to do exactly what she desired in starting her own business: disrupt the status quo, create scalability, and do good in the world. While not without its challenges (who knew the floral industry could be so cutthroat?), Christina has scaled from 56K her first year of business to $31 million 8 years later. As Christina fondly says, success is the best revenge. Thanks for listening! Don't forget to order Rebecca's new book, Fearless: The New Rules for Unlocking Creativity, Courage, and Success. Follow Superwomen on Instagram. Big Ideas Less than 3% of women get funding from venture capital. Discussing the disparity in capital support between male and female founders. The value in trusting your instincts. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/superwomen/support

We are midway through January and the overwhelm of financial resolution setting may already be setting in. How to navigate your finances and achieve your savings and investing goals more gracefully in 2023? Guest Nicole Stanley is the founder of Arise Financial Coaching, a company dedicated to helping professionals who have tried everything finally ditch debt, save more, and enjoy financial confidence. In five years, she went from battling financial anxiety to building her family's net worth to over $250K on an annual salary of $56K. In 2020, after her husband became furloughed, Nicole officially started her coaching practice and became the sole breadwinner in her household. She speaks candidly about that pivot. Fun fact: The average Arise client saves $20K in six months without giving up the things they love. Nicole lives in Denver, CO with her husband and two children. Learn more about Nicole on her website and Instagram. Check out her So Money interview from May 2022. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

December 16, 2022 ~ James David Dickson, Editor of the Michigan Capitol Confidential, talks with Kevin and Tom about how Senator Debbie Stabenow took nearly $56K of donations from FTX.

The Protectors Podcast ™ Presents George Fuller.  George stopped by to talk about the upcoming Ruck ‘N' Run on November 12th!  We talk about all things rucking and how you can get involved.  The Ruck ‘N' Run: Why: Veterans Day is not about a sale. It's about our Veterans. Our event is a tangible way for our community can interact with Veterans and honor them, in person. Honoring Those Who Serve(d)®, Building Camaraderie, Connecting the CommunityWhat: 8th Annual Ruck ‘N' Run® walk/run and Celebration of our U.S. Service Members! Ruck it or Run it. Distances; 5.56K®, 7.62K, 11.11K, or FREE .9 MileSupport the showMake sure to check out Jason on IG @drjasonpiccoloJason's book, UNWAVERING is out now!

Julia Weber, aka Little Miss Ottawa, first discovered her love for travelling after taking part in an international exchange to Australia, discovering all the different restaurants, hidden gems and fun things to do. This made her wonder why she wasn't doing this in her hometown of Ottawa and thus was inspired to seek out adventures in the capital, take photos and post them on Instagram. She now has grown her Instagram to over 56K followers who look forward to seeing her adventures and are inspired to take the journey to seek out their own. From capturing her day trips in the city, to camping getaways, exploring rural towns in Lanark County, all the while... getting paid for it by large brand partnerships, travel and tourism organizations, and other large companies. So how did this former marketing manager turn into one of Ottawa's largest content creator, influencer and blogger? How does she respond to people that think she has fun all day "creating content?" And what are some tips she has for others looking to get into the world of travel blogging, also wanting to become content creators? Tune in to find out!

Medicare Part B enrollees won't be expecting a lower monthly premium this 2022. The standard monthly premium of $170.10 is still enforced but will be lower by 2023.Medicare Part B is available for seniors ages 65 years and above and must be permanent U.S residents or citizens living in the U.S for a minimum of five consecutive years. The coverage includes doctor's visits, outpatient services, and diagnostic tests. With the recent $21.60 premium increase, secretary Xavier Becerra of the U.S Health and Human Services prompted CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services) to reassess this current change.One of the reasons for the premium increase is the cost of Aduhelm, an Alzheimer's drug that was recently approved by the FDA and set to be priced at $56K per year which has been highly debated. After much discussion with Biogen, the original cost was reduced to half, estimated at $28,200 per annum as of January 1, 2022. However, the coverage for Aduhelm will be limited to enrollees whose clinical trials are approved.While waiting for CMS to announce the 2023 Part B premium this October 2022, it is decided that it would reflect all of the savings onto those beneficiaries who are eligible for Aduhelm.So, what does this mean for Medicare Part B enrollees? The Part B premium for next year may be lower, however, you can look forward to a potential premium cut in 2023, not 2022.If you're looking for more comprehensive coverage than what Medicare Part B offers, you may consider replacing Original Medicare with a Medicare Advantage plan. Private insurance companies offer Medicare Advantage plans and typically include prescription drug coverage and other benefits like dental, vision, and hearing.Opting for a Medicare Advantage plan to your existing Medicare Part B coverage can help you save money on your overall healthcare costs. And, if you enroll in a Medicare Advantage plan that includes prescription drug coverage, you'll be able to get your medications at a lower price than if you were to buy them separately.Wading through the Medicare alphabet soup can get overwhelming, and that's why various Medicare advisors like Hella Health are here to help you understand your options and make the best choices for your unique needs and budget. Integrating technology to support this new generation of savvy consumers, such digital platforms offer access to clear and concise information so that you can make the best decision for your health.You can look for other helpful information from websites like Medicare to guide you through the process. And when you've done your research, you can work with a Medicare advisor to help you understand your options and find the best plan.For more information, contactstayintheloop@email.hellahealth.com

Stemming from Friday's episode which focused on the possibility of a recession, Farnoosh invites money coach Nicole Stanley to share her advice on how to manage the stress and anxiety around the volatility and uncertainty hanging over the stock market and economy. How to build confidence right now? How to re-examine your budget to feel more in control? Nicole is the founder of Arise Financial Coaching, a company dedicated to helping professionals who have tried everything finally ditch debt, save more, and enjoy financial confidence. In five years, she went from battling financial anxiety to building her family's net worth to over $250K on an annual salary of $56K. In 2020, after her husband became furloughed, Nicole officially started her coaching practice and became the sole breadwinner in her household. She speaks candidly about that pivot and the initial challenges. Fun fact: The average Arise client saves $20K in six months without giving up the things they love. Nicole lives in Denver, CO with her husband and two children. Learn more about Nicole on her website and Instagram. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sign up for my Daily Fintech or Daily Digital Banking Newsletters here. Check out my latest podcast episode below: Welcome to another episode of our Daily Fintech Podcast. This podcast episode is sponsored by Provenir. Provenir does more than help with your current tech challenges. They eliminate them. Designed and built to power agility, their cloud-native technology puts your team in control. Loved by Startups. Trusted by Decacorns. THE NEWS HIGHLIGHT OF THE DAY IS Serena Williams's early-stage venture capital firm, Serena Ventures, has raised an inaugural fund of $111 million that will invest in founders with diverse points of view, she told the DealBook newsletter. The investment firm led by the tennis star is already an active angel investor with a portfolio of 60 companies that includes SendWave, MasterClass and Daily Harvest. “I've always been fascinated with technology, and I've always loved how it really shapes our lives,” said Ms. Williams, who has been investing for nine years. JUST IN: Nubank added 20.6M new customers worldwide in 2021. That's an average of 56K every day. ALSO: Airwallex, a global fintech platform, announced its partnership with leading investing app, Plum, to support its cross-border payments and FX needs. FURTHERMORE, Sweater, a Boulder, CO-based fintech company building a fully-managed venture capital fund that is open to everyday investors, raised $12M in Seed funding. WHAT ARE THE LATEST INSIGHTS? Belvo, Rappi, Jeeves, Fintual, and Fondeadora are among the most valuable Y Combinator FinTechs from LATAM WHAT ABOUT THOSE MOVERS AND SHAKERS? Fiserv, Inc., announced that its Board of Directors elected Frank Bisignano, President and Chief Executive Officer and a current director of Fiserv, as Chairman of the Board. The board also elected Doyle Simons, a current director, to serve as lead independent director.

In this episode, Dan Albert (Executive Director), Lily Liu (President) and Mable Jiang (Board Member) discuss the role of the Solana Foundation in advancing the Solana protocol and ecosystem with support and initiatives around the world. Austin Federa (Head of Communications, Solana Labs) guest hosts. 0:43 - Intros / Roles3:13 - The appeal of working at the foundation level07:48 - Establishing scope for the foundation12:42 - What's working in the ecosystem?20:01 - From the ecosystem to the foundation21:21 - Growing Solana in new markets33:50 - Shared Ownership of the network36:21 - Predictions for 2022 in crypto and web 3.0DISCLAIMERThe information on this podcast is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, without any express or implied warranty of any kind, including warranties of accuracy, completeness, or fitness for any particular purpose.The information contained in or provided from or through this podcast is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice, investment advice, trading advice, or any other advice.The information on this podcast is general in nature and is not specific to you, the user or anyone else. You should not make any decision, financial, investment, trading or otherwise, based on any of the information presented on this podcast without undertaking independent due diligence and consultation with a professional broker or financial advisor. Austin Federa (00:10):Welcome to the Solana podcast. I'm Austin Federa filling in as guest host today. We spend a lot of time on the show talking to founders and builders in the space, people building on the Solana blockchain or otherwise involved in the Solana ecosystem. But today we're actually going to be talking about a different component, which is the Solana Foundation. Today with us, we have Dan who's the executive director of the Solana Foundation. We have Lily, who's the president of the Solana Foundation and Mabel, who's one of the board members of the Solana Foundation. Welcome to the Solana podcast, guys.Lily (00:39):Thanks for having us.Dan (00:40):Great to be here.Mabel (00:41):Thank you.Austin Federa (00:42):All right, Dan, let's start out with you. Tell me a little bit about what the Solana Foundation's role is in the ecosystem.Dan (00:49):Sure. The foundation is really here to help foster the growth of the Solana network and really the Solana ecosystem kind of in broad strokes at the highest level, what can we do to make sure that the Solana network continues to grow in the most kind of sustainable and decentralized manner as possible? And how can we provide resources and help the community grow to onboard the next or the first billion users to the Solana ecosystem and crypto in general?Austin Federa (01:24):Lily, what attracted you to the Solana Foundation? And how did you get involved in it?Lily (01:30):Well, I've been in the crypto ecosystem for a little bit and I must confess that in 2018, 2019, I actually spent a good bit of time being a Bitcoin maxi. And then I even was part of Little Bitcoin Book and which is not to say, sometimes I feel like people in crypto are a little bit maybe too tribal, which is not to say I don't love Bitcoin. I still consider Bitcoin to be king. But when I took a little bit of time out of crypto, when I came back to crypto, I started just using a lot of the apps that had sort of emerged out of DeFi Summer and I was totally floored by using Raydium in April. I really could not stop talking about it for just about a month because it was very squarely Web 3.0 but it felt like Web 2.0 and it was just so obvious to me at that moment that this was going to be how the next billion people, if we were going to get a billion people into crypto, anytime soon it was going to be on Solana.Solana to me is just such a unique combination of being technically so innovative but at the same time, really understanding that to bring people into the ecosystem, it has to be a good experience. And sometimes for your end user, it really just is as simple as saying, "It's fast and cheap." And that's why ethernet is just better than 56K modems. And sometimes it just has to be that simple to the end user if you're going to appeal to a billion people.Austin Federa (02:48):Yeah, I completely agree with you. There's been so many of those moments I've sort of heard over the last year of people just trying something on Solana and having this experience of, oh, it just works. It's fast. It feels like a Web 2.0 application but it's delivered in a fully decentralized way. Just based on that, what was the decision in your mind to, tons of people have that experience, they go build something, they go work for a company building in the space in terms of a service provider company. What was the sort of appeal of something that's more at the foundation level?Lily (03:19):To me, I think that, I come from a background where I spent a lot of time, I originally started working in more traditional industries. I worked in McKinsey, I worked at KKR and I kind of fell into Bitcoin back in 2013, 2014, which at the time was not a very obvious thing to do. And so for me, I think one of the things that I maybe add to the ecosystem is helping run effective organizations and thinking about sort of how to scale a commercial kind of go to market strategy and having been in the ecosystem for a little bit. And so for me, what's always attracted to me to crypto and Web 3.0, is these kind of new ultimately end user experiences that you enable for, not just those of us who've been kind of nerding out over technical sort of minutia left and right but really making that accessible and available.Lily (04:17):Some of the things that I'm really excited about facilitating through the foundation is kind of new markets growth outside of the US, outside of Europe, outside of the parts of East Asia that are already very familiar with cryptocurrency. And to me, it's so clear that if these types of applications, call it DeFi or sort of more metaverse or social or NFTs are going to take hold, then it's most likely going to start on Solana first. And so just being a part of that and sort of making that more accessible to a broader rate of people is really what's exciting to me.Austin Federa (04:51):And Mabel, you tell us a little bit about your path to becoming a board member at the Solana Foundation.Mabel (04:57):I think among all the people here, I probably joined the board the earliest. I joined when the board started, the foundation started. That kind of history just goes back to when I think before the token launch of Solana happened to that Anatoly and Raj, they were in China and in East Asia. And then that was even before my time joining Multicoin. I met them, obviously at that point it was 2019 and then it wasn't really easy to raise fund for sure. But then we kind of just happened to hang out a lot in Shanghai, in Seoul. I think another places like Beijing and whatever. And then we spent a bunch of time over those three weeks and then talked about, oh, how do I think about or how do we usually think about go to market strategies for public chains? And then how do people really differentiate one smart contract from the other?When they go back to San Francisco, they ask, "Can you maybe write us some sort of expansion or kind of go to market plan for Solana in East Asia?" And I did that. That was right around the time when they're forming a board for the foundation. And then, that's also around the time when I joined Multicoin. They invited, it's like since you're part of the ecosystem and then you are pretty unique kind of position compared to some of the other board members, are you interested to kind of help Solana Foundation or raising the Solana awareness in a global sense? I was like, oh, that was really interesting in a differentiated way to contribute to the ecosystem so I said, yes.Since then, that was start of 2020. Since then over now, I've been doing quite a bit of things, always related to those lines, raising the awareness for Solana in China specifically because that's where I'm sitting. And also in some other places in Asia and also try to just kind of talk to different projects in multiple different ecosystem. And obviously now it's a multi chain world and then people would have different trade offs, like when to choose different things. But when they learn about Solana and learn about why they're optimizing certain things in the design, they're always willing to try it because back in 2020, there aren't that many people know about it. I think the first step really is just to having people understand how the system works and whatnot. I've been doing quite a bit of those. I think that's kind of my experience involved with Solana Foundation.Austin Federa (07:31):And Dan, as you kind of think about your role as the sort of executive director at the Solana Foundation, how do you define scope for an organization like that? What are the sort of things you're thinking about when you're thinking about initiatives that the foundation is engaging in or things the foundation is not doing and shouldn't be doing in your view?Dan (07:52):Yeah, that's an excellent question. Really, I see it as two primary areas of focus with kind of the overarching goal being broad growth of the network and the community itself without an eye towards turning a profit for the foundation. This is a nonprofit organization. We're not taking any equity investments or really taking the position to be picking winners. There's plenty of incredible innovation that's happening on Solana, lots of competing projects, lots of new stuff. And the foundation really wants to position itself to support, really talking how to provide support equally for everyone in the ecosystem. And so one of the primary thrusts, one of our main operational kind of focus points these days is really on growing the network itself from an infrastructure standpoint. That's really been my personal area of focus for really a long time now is how can we get the most number of high quality validator operators, the most humans running the most number of nodes, be it validators or RPC nodes, which serve as the API endpoints or API gateways for applications using the Solana network?And to that end, the foundation has rolled out a number of programs, really leveraging kind of the foundation's holdings of tokens, which are really allocated to grow the community and grow the network. Kind of as I see it, I don't know, maybe a bit of a personal tangent here. I originally started engaging with Solana in early 2019. I was working on the engineering team at Solana Labs and it was early stage startup. We hadn't even launched the Testnet yet, just kind of scrappy early days, trying to get everyone to understand and hey, proof of history is a real thing. We're really going to prove out this tech. And one of the things that was really hard was trying to get people to run validators. A lot of our early stage validators that helped us launch Testnet for the very first time and get Mainnet off the ground were a lot of them came from the Cosmos ecosystem.And so, we have a lot of these kind of OG longstanding validators who really helped get the Solana network off the ground came from standing on the shoulders of giants. The Cosmos ecosystem brought so much innovation to the proof of stake universe and kind of where this ties back to, in early days, myself and a couple of the early labs employees in true startup fashion, we were actually working out of one of the co-founder's basements and we hand built some of the first bare metal validators to run on the Solana network. Ordering parts on the internet, showing up in a bunch of boxes and just going forward kind of hacking on the hardware, trying to see how much performance we can squeeze out of these individual machines.We went and installed them in a data center here in the Colorado area and those nodes are still running today. Some of them are pointed at Mainnet, some of them are Testnet. And that was sort of the, I don't know, the genesis of, at least for me personally, a lot of my personal investment in seeing the growth of the validator ecosystem on Solana, having kind of physically hooked up and bootstrapped some of the first ones. And now having transitioned earlier this year to take on this role at the foundation, we maintain a program for anyone who wants to run a validator, can engage with tier one data centers all over the world that the foundation has. We've really kind of went to bat for our validator community and helped a lot of these infrastructure providers understand that, yeah, it takes a lot of horsepower to run a node on Solana and it can be hard to get your hands on some of these machines.And so in working with some of these execs at some of these older school, I'll say more traditional telco or infrastructure oriented companies, helping them to understand the value of what a powerful and secure and distributed Solana infrastructure ecosystem looks like, that's really been an exciting kind of growth track, I think for the foundation in helping to bring more hardware online and helping more people to learn to run it and get more nodes running and keep the network flying.Austin Federa (12:16):Yeah, I love the parallels to the Cosmos ecosystem being a validator ecosystem being early, early supporters of that because of course, Tendermint is also notoriously computationally intensive and runs better on bare metal than cloud so it seems like a very natural validator group to bring over in the early days.Lily, from your view, as looking over the ecosystem, what are the parts you see that are working really well in the Solana ecosystem? What do you see are areas, be it tooling, Dan talked a little about infrastructure, areas in which the foundation can make a difference in help evolving?Lily (12:53):What I think is going quite well right now is a lot of the interest in the energy and kind of the inbound on various stakeholder groups within the community. I think there's a lot of excitement from a general audience also because it's very accessible to a general audience. Again, as we were saying earlier, if it costs dollars versus hundreds of dollars to mint an NFT, that's a very meaningful difference to many people. I think general awareness has been amazing. I think there's a lot of increased developer interest and accessibility. And if you look at sort of the hackathons that we've had, probably every two or three months, three or four months in the ecosystem, the number of sort of people who are new to Web 3.0 that are starting with Solana, I think is really impressive and has grown tremendously in a very short period of time.We want to continue to extend that in various ways. And we've got a number of ideas as to sort of increasing the accessibility to even a retail audience, putting out sort of better documentation, better tooling to continue sort of onboard both maybe existing Web 3.0 developers who might be building in solidity or on sort of an EVM type environment. As well as, increasingly there's pretty substantial influx of folks coming over from Web 2.0 and thinking about where to get started and are starting off by making choices between essentially now it's really solidity or Rust and Rust, implicitly sort of Solana. And so I think that we can continue to invest in various ways of sort of helping people start within the Solana ecosystem. And I think that because Solana has grown so quickly in a very short period of time, there are also sort of ecosystem tools that are catching up right now.One thing that we hear a lot about is kind of indexing within Solana is something that we can probably improve as a community, data analytics on Solana, given that a lot of the applications are very sort of more consumer retail audience oriented is something that I think is also, actively being worked on. And so those are of the sort of near term things that people are thinking about. Obviously with the pretty tremendous growth of the ecosystem, also making it easier for people to run nodes, have access to baseline infrastructure. That's also something we've invested tremendous resources on through data center partnerships and it's known that Solana some higher hardware requirements but we've invested a lot to try to take down those various barriers. Those are some of the things that we've been thinking about.Dan (15:38):Yeah. And I would actually just kind of add to that. Some people do like to kind of harp on the interesting hardware requirements or high end hardware requirements for Solana. In the broad scope of things, when kind of the history is written about at these sorts of things, it's like, this is going to be something that's in a number of years or maybe even just a couple years, it's going to run on whatever machine you want to plug in to your home. We do have some validators that are running infrastructure out of their home. Some people choose to run in data centers. Some people do, God bless them, choose to run it in the cloud. But I think to Lily's point regarding the incredibly rapid growth of the Solana ecosystem, I think one area where we're really starting to dedicate more resources, particularly me personally and from the foundation side is on helping more people understand what Solana infrastructure really looks like.We've seen Tremendous resources and the developer relations team has put out incredible resources for new developers for Web 3.0 but the kind of tooling and community knowledge base of what does it take to run a good validator? And what does it mean to run a validator? Why should I care? I think it has a little ways to go in sort of advancing that narrative a little bit. In particular to lower the barrier to entry from, oh, you must be a sysadmin or a DevOps expert to, what I'd really love to see is all of these Web 3.0 teams and Web 3.0 app developers who are having a great time enjoying Solana and building on Solana, also participate in running the network that they so appreciate. I'd love to see more community buy in of teams that are vested in their project being built on top of a working Solana to help Solana run.What we've seen, even in just the last couple weeks or so, a number of these sort of NFT based Dow communities that have popped up on Solana over the last six months or so have started really taking this message to heart and are launching their own validator, which is just really cool to see. I know, I think Monkeydow claims the title of first Dow to launch a validator on Solana. I know the Degen Apes and the Degen community have also launched. And so it's just really cool to see these communities that really organically popped up around people enjoying NFTs and collecting these cool RNFTs that kind of blew up on Solana this summer now really starting to take a stake in the consensus and ownership and management of the network itself. And so I'm really excited to see that to start happen and really something I want to hope that the foundation can foster. And it's just something I also am excited to see the community really kind of taking it into their own hands more.Austin Federa (18:39):Yeah. I kind of love that, that it's so easy, even a monkey can do it. Is kind of the tagline there.Dan (18:47):It's perfect.Austin Federa (18:48):And the other, the Degen Apes, which are famous for having probably the least technically successful NFT launch to ever have been done by any organization have now their own validator. It's a good testament to how far we've come.Dan (19:02):It was incredible. It was such a struggle. There were all sorts of technical issues, like with the Metaplex standard had recently rolled out. They had various challenges with the mints and it was this saga that we all kind of watched unfold on Twitter and on all these channels over a number of days. And I got to give them credit. There were frustration, there was joy, there were tears. And it came out with one of the most unique, strong, enthusiastic communities on Solana having kind of gone through the fire of this rocky birth that was the minting process. More power to them. I just thought it was just so cool.Austin Federa (19:48):Yeah. I love how that all gets constructed. Kind of, along those lines, you Dan, you came initially from Solana Labs, you were one of the early engineers in the ecosystem. You're now working at the foundation. What's that transition been like? How closely do you still work with people like Raj and Anatoly? What's that relationship like?Dan (20:08):Yeah. I think the working relationship it's really interesting. There has been obviously, Solana, the whole network was built and originally launched, all the code came out of Solana Labs, where Raj and Toly run the organization. And they're obviously major players in the Solana ecosystem. This is the vision and the hustle that they've really brought to the table has been instrumental in kind of getting the whole community and the whole Solana ecosystem and the tech stack to really where it is today I think. Where we relate from the foundation is as sort of industry peers, I would say, sure, I talk to Raj and Toly, I talk with a lot of the ecosystem teams, I talk with our board and Lily and so many people that have an interest in Solana's success on the broadest terms and that's to really what the foundation is here to foster. As we continue to grow and expand and evolve our kind of working relationships with a lot of these organizations, I think just continues to evolve and expand.Austin Federa (21:22):And Mabel, looking at, you mentioned a bunch of the work you were doing was helping grow Solana in new markets. Can you talk a little bit about that? And I think, a lot of people, especially who are not working in the region, there's a lot of information around whether cryptocurrency is going to be banned in India or China, sort of how do you view some of those approaches?Mabel (21:44):Yeah, definitely. I'll answer the first part of the questions. I think it's going to be pretty much the same line as what Lily and Dan just mentioned but I'll kind of carve out those into details. I'd say, at the beginning you are also, you definitely need to engage a lot of these staking facilities but these people here it's quite differentiated because many of them are running the mining pools, meaning the proof of work mining pools. I remember back in the days, in 2019, 2020, we were talking to a bunch of those and happened to be that a lot of those are just crashing their wifi in the office. It's pretty funny. But at the same time, Dom who's from Solana Labs, we're trying to age of all of these mining pools and then we're just giving out some of those GPUs.But I think that's in the past. Now a lot more validators are actually starting from East Asia. I think there's some problem with in the past, with your location being far from the US so that's it's harder because Amazon cloud and whatnot but I think basically there's what Dan mentioned earlier, I think this will be a problem that can be solved in the future. I thought that was a pretty interesting thing to bootstrap at the beginning. And then the other things like wallets and non-custodial wallets, custodial wallets, because I think for East Asian crypto, you can never kind of ignore the centralized parties and players, especially I think in the past 24 month all the way till the next 12 month or whatever. I think a lot of those custodial wallets, including some of those exchanges, it was a lot of very pivotal work to try to engage them to support Solana, to support STL, USDC, USCT and a lot of the other stablecoins. I think, those steps that we were able to achieve in the past year in order to get a lot of these centralized exchanges to support those, I think that's also pretty interesting.Mabel (23:50):I think the other thing is that you just generally need to go to wherever because like back in the days in 2 18, 19 and 20, not that many groups are fully aware of how Solana works or even if it's like in Rust, I think people here I'd say safely were more familiar with things like Polkadot than Solana back in the days. Talking to some of those developers and just telling them, there's a few different options and then go to some of the hackathons or just developer meetups or even just the Rust China conferences, and then to promote about it. Justin Stery, he spoke there. A lot of these engagement opportunities definitely helped over the past two years for Solana to really get the writers here.I think that work still continue. And I think I believe that there will be a lot more application focused developers coming over, given from the history of Web 2.0, you see a lot of your infrastructure was built in the West but then application wise actually quite a few of them came from the East. I think, for Solana, for anything that's building on top of the smart contract platform, we could probably spec on the same track. You'll see a lot of people are going to build on top. Now once all of these are available.I think one interesting thing is that for things like wallet, you have Phantom for browser because I think in the West, people are pretty used to using browser wallet but I think here in the East, you also need something that has really good user experience and people like to go mobile first. And that's why Slope Finance, which is one of the leading mobile wallet for Solana in China, they were doing really well because they understand the user behavior and all of those to deliver to the specific audience. I thought this is like quite interesting how you will need to focus on specific areas, the same thing for East and West but then you want to make sure that people get to have the best culturally fitting choices for them so that way you can actually get it around.And then to answer the second part of the questions, so I actually the other day had a tweet about similar lines. There's a lot of Web 2.0 venture capitals and then some of the other funded funds, they're trying to deploy money and then we're asking it's still East Asia or some of the other places around still relevant because of the policy. The way I read this is that crypto is really global. I understand that there's certain restriction for developers to issue cryptocurrencies in China or in some of the other countries. However, I think the language circle and then user behavior, what I just mentioned was always going to be something more pivotal than the actual restriction. These people will move to somewhere else in Asia but they will continue to build. And then for people who want to use the kind of user experience for those products who are sitting here.I think crypto liquidity is global but user experience is always regional. And I think, if you're growing an ecosystem, you can't ignore that. I'd say I'm still bullish. And I think people are recognizing some a lot of those things are just better built on Solana because it's higher performance. And then at the end, it's just about how you make sure that you are compliant to the place that you are at. And then not definitely go with the compliance part but then also not hindering yourself building.Austin Federa (27:23):Lily, Dan, do you have anything to add on growth in new markets and that process?Lily (27:29):Yeah. On new markets, we started to invest in building out the ecosystem in India, back in June and July. And it's no secret, there's extremely large both user bases and also developer communities. I think in the most recent hackathon, after the US, the second largest contributor of developers, developer submissions to the hackathon was from India. And I think Indonesia was in the top four as well. And so I think as we continue to look to Eastern Europe, for example, Latin America, Africa, some of the early narratives as to what applications would be unique and sort of the 10X type of functionality on crypto, have been talked about and written about for years, if not decades. And for example, payment applications Which become supercharged when you take DeFi functionality, global liquidity pools and they make that adjacent to an actual you potentially consumer transaction.And I think that that to me, it's very clear that that's going to happen on Solana first. And so, what I'm particularly excited about is some of those seemingly sort of everyday type of transactions but those actually becoming very unique when you, for example, can take a stablecoin and have a Venmo feeling type of transaction or a WeChat pay feeling type of transaction but it's actually fully decentralized, fully on chain and also comes with a potentially a suite of financial services that are kind of baked into the ecosystem adjacent to that. I think those are the types of things that are going to resonate hugely in emerging markets, in new markets. And those are some of the things that I'm excited about maybe exploring in new markets.Austin Federa (29:10):Yeah. I do love how sort of culturally infectious the crypto mindset is. That to use a network, you also have to be an owner of the network and that the success of the network and the success of you as a user are tied in a way that they're really not in the setup of a stock corporation or something along those lines. You can sort of think of these things in some ways as giant digital co-ops that are all working towards this goal. It's really interesting to kind of hear that. And I'm really curious to see in the future, how that starts influencing culture. I think we're already seeing crypto just barely start to influence culture and that might take off a bit in the future. Be interesting to see.Lily (29:54):I think it is. And I think what's under the surface with crypto but what rapidly rises to the surface is that it's been talked about, written about philosophically for a very, very long time, this whole idea of a veil of ignorance, that your opportunity set is determined in large part sort of where you're geographically born today, rather than you know who you are as a person and what's in your heart and what's in your mind. And with crypto, you sort of have this radical accessibility. It's almost sort of radical equality if you will, in a way that we haven't really observed in a long time. And so I think that's really upending in so many different ways and that for me is a big part of why I continue to be interested in cryptocurrency. And also why I think Solana is really going to be at the forefront of that because all of those sorts of ideas, the accessibility, the sort of the very concept of why Web 3.0 is important and where people are most likely to get started on that today is the sort of general awareness funnels.People will hear about Bitcoin. They'll learn about Bitcoin. They'll learn about store value and people will resonate with that. Your average person will resonate with that because it sounds so much like digital goals. But then once they start to learn about Bitcoin, they're like, okay, I've bought it, I get it. It's kind of like gold for the digital age. What's next? Well can I do DeFi on Bitcoin? Eh, no, not really. Lightning, we've been talking about it since 2015. Soon.And then very quickly from there, people move on to, okay, well here, well that's really amazing. These sort of new applications. And I have some friends who bought NFTs and then they click a button and it's a $100 later. Gosh. Oh, that was painful. And I think that's kind of what a number of people have gone through so far. And so people sort of get onboarded to why this is important, why this is really sort of very exciting and part of the future. And then eventually what I've seen is so many people sort of end up with being in the Solana ecosystem. I guess what I'm excited about is accelerating that and maybe making it a little bit less of a circuitous journey.Mabel (31:59):I have a story to share related to what we were talking about here. I think, I now all of these protocols are starting to talk about Shopify type of experience, which is you have an underlying protocol and then you just have different ends. You just host a different way. It's actually not just for the cultural purpose. One story was shared by Roneil who's the co-founder of Audius, last week with me. He was saying that he realized because Audius is actually not, I think the main front end was not allowed in China at some point but then somebody actually set up a separate front end that's actually and filter out and then based on whatever the local compliance should be let a whole thing run. That front end actually works.He was exactly kind of explaining to me how he was amazed by Audius should be the underlying protocol and then it should be determined by the front end itself on the ground, what to feature versus not. And everybody can have their own choices. That's a freedom choice. Nobody's going to question that. I thought that was like really amazing. It's definitely beat beyond just kind of I think this is really relevant to what we were talking about earlier because I think for Solana, it's the same thing, a lot of the things. It may not be compliant for a certain reason in the region but I think at the end it's about the front end. It's not about the protocol. The protocol should be permissionless. Anyone else can just do whatever they want but for the ones that you want to make it work for a certain region, you can just do that. I thought that was really, really amazing and very unique about crypto.Austin Federa (33:30):Yeah. I love that, that sort of view that because of the financial incentives with crypto, you can decouple the application layer from the protocol layer, that those two things can be separate. This is in some ways, this is the dream of Twitter. We had this glorious few years where there were all these Twitter clients and then it all got, because the app engine was introduced, it all got consolidated down to twitter.com and the Twitter mobile apps. And RIP all of our favorite Twitter clients from back in the day. I love that, that the way this technology is built, it allows you to really separate those two things at origin, as opposed to having to think about the business models that support that over the long term.Dan (34:09):I would actually add, I think there's interesting things happening, both in the decoupling of that, like you said, the application and the protocol there but also an interesting sort of coupling there kind of to Lily's point about this shared ownership of the success of the project. And that's really this kind of shared ownership of the network is really the kind of core underpinning, this core idea that underpins this idea of staking on a proof of steak network. Which is your success is tied to the success and this really the security of the network. And what we're starting to see now are applications and DeFi applications, particularly stake pools that have recently launched on Solana that really bring the ability to participate in the shared security and shared ownership of the network to the application layer.There have been a bunch of community launched stake pools. There's some private stake pools. The foundation is in the process of transitioning its entire treasury over to stake pools, which are really this, I think we did a whole podcast episode on this recently so I won't belabor the technical details here but basically it gives people an easy way to enter and exit from a liquid position, which is actively helping to secure the network via staking to various validators in the underlying smart contract. But what I think is really interesting about this is we're starting to see these public stake pools that pop up, Marinade Finance, JPool, Socient, Lido and a few others that are really bringing the application experience, that really slick, fast, fast and cheap promise of what does it feel like to just use a useful service built on top of Solana and oh, how cool that a normal user can transact in these stake pool tokens rather than unstaked SOL.And I think we recently saw the first, there was an NFT sale or an NFT mint that was accepting stake pool tokens, a staked SOL positions, rather unstaked SOL. So we're starting to see this adoption of people who are not only just developing apps and playing around on the application layer but also recognizing that there's tremendous value in sort of moving the denominator of how we transact value on Solana to be pegged to the participation of securing the network itself.Austin Federa (36:40):Yeah, that's a really great point. Looking forwards, Looking into this year of 2022, what are the things that you see in Web 3.0 and crypto that have potential that could become trends that are going to advance and increase? I'll kind of start out. One of my big ones that I think is we're going to see a lot of the sort of tech-ish companies adopting decentralized Web 3.0 technologies as a competitive advantage to compete with a lot of vertically integrated companies. I think you're going to see a lot in payroll. You're going to see a lot in merchant payments, concert tickets. These companies that don't have platform scale are going to look to Web 3.0 as a competitive advantage. And you might see that role into the rest of the ecosystem. Dan, I'm curious kind of what your thoughts are. And we'll just go around the room here.Dan (37:30):Yeah, I think your spot on there, Austin. And I think one of the things that's really going to help unlock that is these sort of higher levels of abstraction of developer tooling and more sort of almost enterprise API access, if you will, to provide a more Web 2.0 like interface experience that someone could just plug in and it's Solana as a service. There's your SaaS for 2022 and it's instant settlement in stablecoins on Solana but no one needs to worry about the fact that it's a stablecoin on Solana. It's they integrate this API and the money transfers or the token transfers from merchant to customer or vendor to seller, whoever, immediately. I think that starting to see people using crypto and using blockchain without realizing that they're using a blockchain technology.Austin Federa (38:22):Lily, what are your 2022 predictions?Lily (38:25):I think industry wide I'm with you that Web 3.0 is going to become the starting point rather than sort of the periphery. I think that we're well on our way where Web 3.0 is going to sort of foment this decentralized center. And I think that there's a few things that are sort of going to happen alongside, in my perspective. One is this kind of movement towards multichain slash interchain future is just accelerating. I think that there's a few sort of different consolations within the ecosystem. There's clearly sort of the EVM world which we're going to have a connection to through Neon EVM. There's a lot of sort of obviously energy within Solana. There's some other, IBC, we talked about Cosmos a little a bit is probably another sort of approach within that and then connectors within these.And so I think there's various foci that are going to emerge there and increasingly there is going to be sort of those sort of layer ones are actually, I think, going to be abstracted away over time as they probably should be when you talk about sort of appeal to your average person. I think that another theme that I see emerging is as more institutions want to get into this and compliance with existing regulatory frameworks, institutional KYC and tooling to allow institutions to participate in decentralized liquidity pools, which I think is going to be pretty exciting. And so that's where the existing world is actually going to start getting onboarded in earnest into Web 3.0. That's going to be quite interesting.I think with that, there's a big theme around a sort of identity and privacy and on chain identity and having a little bit more control over your data on chain is another big thing, the theme that's going to evolve. And then, certainly in a consumer area, I think that NFTs went from being a very analog sort of digital representation of physical art and have now morphed into basically being the entry point into sort of Web 3.0 communities and metaverse and these kind of almost new communities, dare I say civilizations that are starting to sprout online. And so those are some of the from the more institutional to the more consumer, I think there's just so much happening out there. That's all really just going to continue to develop at a rapid pace in 2022.Austin Federa (40:49):And Mabel, what do you see for 2022?Mabel (40:51):Yeah. I'd like to maybe talk a little bit more about the application as in the middleware layer. Especially the crypto native ones. We've seen a lot of DeFi activities, 2020, 2021 for on Solana specifically because people like how fast transactions are like. But I think what's more excited, also something that I've been spending a lot of time thinking about and then exploring is that the actual kind of Web 3.0 application experience, what does that mean? People have been talking about metaverse so to speak for a long time but the things people can do beyond finance is never really happening before but I think there are, we've seen from a lot of the recent hackathons that you'll have address to address IM protocols, you have some of the Web 3.0 social graph where you can just basically have the relationship you with another person.And then another, some of the other things open C collections or some of the other things that you did. And then you also have things like on chain credentialing protocols. All of these, we are seeing them happening on Solana. And then with all of these composable, with each other, you can actually see that you have relationship between people in a game, for example. Or when you bootstrap a new application with the social graph, you can you customize the front page that you push to the users based on the social graph because like you have all those data. Obviously what Lily said about privacy preservation was very, very important. You don't want to share everything, which kind of it's kind of against the purpose but I think the idea is that for Web 3.0, you own the data.You are the one who approves the blockchain or whoever else to access your data of all eth and you control whether you approve someone to be your public connected contact. And then things like on chain credentials, you can prove, what are some of your achievements based on the contribution off chain. At this court discussion or things like whatever you've provided liquidity in the past for certain period of time or you just basically voted every single time in the community snapshot. All of these become your kind of on chain resumes or on chain badges that can later on help whatever you prioritize into a community. It's the such thing we call gated community. I think all of these are coming together. We're going to see actual consumer experience available on Solana. I thought that was extremely exciting because I think with all of these enabled, people will have no difference of experience compared to some of the other Web 2.0 application experience. I thought that's going to be very huge.Austin Federa (43:35):Well, thank you all for joining us today. It's fun to talk about some of these things that are not quite as pressing, as user facing that developers aren't picking up and doing but are nonetheless integral to the network and it's growth and its future. And I think it's really fun to talk with the names and some of the people behind the Solana Foundation. Thanks for joining us today.Lily (44:00):Thanks for having us, Austin.Mabel (44:01):Thank you.Dan (44:02):Great to be here. Thanks a lot.

Pour les nostalgiques ou pour ceux qui n'étaient pas né lors des débuts d'internet et la généralisation des ordinateurs, il existe un musée en ligne vous permettant de découvrir ou redécouvrir les sons iconiques du passé. Du modem 56K, au tube cathodique en passant par le mythique Tetris de la Game Boy première génération, c'est un voyage dans le passé des technologies électroniques que nous offre ce musée. Tous les détails dans cet épisode. Parfois, la nostalgie se réveille au détour d'un simple bruit inoubliable, que l'on n'avait plus entendu depuis des années, voire des décennies… Du bruit permettant de s'identifier sur AOL en passant par le frottement d'une pellicule de cinéma, les musiques entêtantes de Tetris, Space Invaders ou encore Pacman... Le site Museum of Endangered Sounds les répertorie tous ou presque, tel un véritable musée numérique. Son interface minimaliste permet de se replonger dans les époques et produits qui ont marqué le monde de la tech. Amateurs de cacophonie ou de composition improbable, vous allez vous régaler, c'est évident ! Pour l'historique, le site a été lancé par un certain Brendan Chilcutt en 2012. Ce dernier explique que c'est un moyen je cite de « préserver les sons rendus célèbres par les vieilles technologies et équipements électroniques ». En somme, il s'agit là d'un travail d'archive monstrueux. Vous y retrouverez une trentaine de sons et vous n'aurez qu'à appuyer sur les vignettes correspondantes pour les écouter. Accéder au musée : http://savethesounds.info/ Voir Acast.com/privacy pour les informations sur la vie privée et l'opt-out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rosie Wilby is an award-winning comedian, author, Ted X speaker and podcaster who has appeared many times on BBC Radio 4 programmes including Woman's Hour and Four Thought.  Her first book 'Is Monogamy Dead?' was longlisted for the Polari First Book Prize and followed a trilogy of solo shows investigating the psychology of love and relationships.  And this episode was raw.  We were fortunate to speak with Rosie as she has recently just launched her brand new book, 'The Breakup Monologues', which is based on her acclaimed podcast of the same name.  In 2011, Rosie was broken up with via email and has been obsessing about break ups ever since. She embarked on a quest to investigate, understand and conquer the psychology of heartbreak...but in a humorous way.  We talked all things break ups and Rosie shared some really insightful answers that could help anyone who might be going through a break up or is struggling to get over the heart ache of one.  We spoke about the topic of Monogamy. And if it is dead. Rosie's Ted x talk, 'Is Monogamy Dead?' has now been viewed over 56K times on YouTube. So we knew we'd get a fascinating answer.  It was really interesting picking her brain on the topic of sex and finding out how important sex really is in a relationship. Rosie shared some results she collected from a survey about what is and isn't classified as cheating. The answers may be surprising to some people.  You won't want to miss a minute, so crank up the volume and tune into this incredible conversation with Rosie Wilby.    Purchase Rosie's book here - @breakupmonologues | Linktree Follow Rosie on Twitter @rosiewilby Follow Rosie on Instagram @breakupmonologues   Follow us on instagram - @dosandd_  Email us your questions as we would love to answer them on the show - thedosanddshow@gmail.com  It would mean the world to both of us if you could please leave a 5 star review to help us grow this community and empower more lives.

We all want to have our growing kids eat nutritious foods and develop good eating habits, but sometimes it feels like a lot of work. Seriously, I dream that my fairy godmother will magically grant me a personal chef that will make kale that my children love to eat. So, I reached out to Dr. Natasha Beck, "Dr. Organic Mommy," to come talk to us about how to get our kids to eat better. *New!* Watch video clips from this episode on the Mindful Mama Youtube channel! If you enjoyed this episode, and it inspired you in some way, I'd love to hear about it and know your biggest takeaway. Take a screenshot of you listening on your device, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me @mindfulmamamentor. Have you left a review yet? All you have to do is go to  Apple Podcasts or  Stitcher (or wherever you listen), and thanks for your support of the show! 3 Takeaways: Provide opportunities and encouragement to try new foods. Try setting the table for a more inviting experience and get the kids to help. As the parent, you can decide what and when your child eats, allowing your child to decide if and how much they eat. Dr. Natasha Beck MPH, Psy. D is a parenting expert and founder of Dr. Organic Mommy, an online resource focused on pregnancy, parenting, and non-toxic living. With over 56K loyal and engaged followers who look to her for real-world advice on raising children, Natasha is now known as @dr.organicmommy. Get Hunter's book, Raising Good Humans now! Click here to order and get book bonuses! ABOUT HUNTER CLARKE-FIELDS: Hunter Clarke-Fields is a mindful mama mentor. She coaches smart, thoughtful parents on how to create calm and cooperation in their daily lives. Hunter has over 20 years of experience in mindfulness practices. She has taught thousands worldwide. Be a part of the tribe—we're over 25 thousand strong! Join the Mindful Parenting membership. Take your learning further! Get my Top 2 Best Tools to Stop Yelling AND the Mindful Parenting Roadmap for FREE at: mindfulmamamentor.com/stopyelling/ Find more podcasts, blog posts, free resources, and how to work with Hunter at MindfulMamaMentor.com. Be sure to check out these deals from this week's sponsors: Get a free 12-count Immunity or Energy Gummies with any purchase of $19+ with code MAMA12 when you visit BeForeverWell.com Get 15% off your first order when you visit thrivecausemetics.com/HUNTER Go to WeAreRasa.com and use my special promo code: HUNTER20 for 20% off

Andrew Taylor interviews Erika Walker and Josh Williams to discuss the differences between working for their previous company and becoming a part of Family First Life.Erika came from a practice company where she was making 6 figures and running her own agency. When they went virtual, all business took a nosedive. Once she joined Family First Life she took time off before she really started running business. Since jumping in full throttle, Erika issued $56K in paid premium in one month. Erika is also homeless by choice. She has a house in Oregon but instead chooses to travel the country to run business, help families and recruit agents. Erika is also on Josh's team, Family First Life Knockout, which is currently the fastest growing agency in the company.

The strong rebound we saw in US equity futures ended up giving way to a decent sell-off on Wednesday trading session; the S&P500 recorded its worst back-to-back sell-off since October 2020 and it may not be over. The US equity futures are again in the positive at the time of writing, but the gains are hardly interpreted as a recovery; they are rather the result of a rising volatility. The risk sentiment is sour. Now one place which could give hope for a slowdown in inflation, and a slower market selloff is oil, as the prices are under the pressure of a couple of factors. OPEC meets today; the expectations have been as volatile as the market action in oil. The latest news suggest that OPEC is increasingly inclined to scrap its plan to raise output for January. With the Fed pulling away support, we see the shining stars of the cheap-liquidity market falling from grace. AMC entertainment and GameStop tanked, while chipmakers and electric car makers took a heavy hit. Traditional safe haven gold is doing quite poorly nowadays, while Bitcoin is stable near the $56K mark, but the risks are tilted to the downside on the global loss of risk appetite. So, I am thinking, but just thinking whether the US dollar will again be the place to park until the dust settles.

Bitcoin crashed to $56K....Karaken says it will list SHIB on Novembe 1.....and a Dutch Millionaire says he is bullish on Shiba Inu and Dogecoin --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/westcoastcryptos/support

In this episode, host Bidemi Ologunde spoke with Matt Larson, a friend, brother, former colleague, and fellow cybersecurity professional. Matt shared how got interested in computers back when he was 12 years old with his family's first-ever Windows 98 Service Pack 1 desktop computer that had a 4GB hard drive, 40MB of RAM, and was connected to a 56K modem. We talked about how he couldn't get the jobs he wanted even with the technical degree on his resume and then had to start from low-end tech support roles and work his way up. Matt shared the techniques he uses to motivate himself, which brought up how and why I used to call him “Mr. GDPR” during our time together at Verizon, a nickname that has apparently stuck to this day. Matt also shared some resume tips and general advice for anyone trying to get into the cybersecurity field, and he mentioned how his wife has supported and motivated him every step of the way from his days in tech support to the senior cybersecurity role he has now.You can also reach Matt on Twitter @mtlarson86, and by email: batmanfightsmario@gmail.com. Please send questions, comments, and suggestions to bidemi@thebidpicture.com. You can also get in touch on LinkedIn, Twitter, the Clubhouse app (@bid), and the Wisdom app (@bidemi).Check out host Bidemi Ologunde's latest book, Feet of Clay: Democracy, Democratic Values & Destructive Influences, available on Amazon, eBay, and Barnes & Noble.

Major US indices had a record-breaking session on Thursday, but disappointment on Apple and Amazon results will likely weigh on the market sentiment before the weekly closing bell. Nasdaq which led gains and traded at a fresh record will certainly feel the pinch of the softer-than-expected results from Apple and Amazon. And there is little to improve the mood, as Joe Biden is still struggling to pass his mega spending bill, the Covid delta-plus cases are surging and the US growth fell short of expectations in the latest read. Facebook changed its name to Meta. And Tthe last thing on this week's corporate calendar is the earnings from the oil giants Exxon and Chevron. Both companies are expected to report strong quarterly earnings thanks to the rally in oil prices. But strong expectations don't mean a strong beat! Shell for example missed on revenue estimates yesterday and the share price dived 3.50% in London. US crude rebounded past the $83 yesterday, as the price plunge has been seen as an opportunity to buy the dip in the actual environment of energy crisis, rising global demand and still a tight supply. A word on the European Central Bank (ECB) meeting: The message from Lagarde was dovish yesterday, but the price action on euro was hawkish. The EURUSD flirted with the 1.17 mark and has potential to price in more hawkishness no matter what Lagarde says. Finally, Bitcoin plunged to $56K, and could see some more downside pressure during the weekend.

Episodio 40 de Sin Palomitas de Maíz.Invitado: Juan Arellano https://twitter.com/Cyberjuan¡Volvimos!Esta vez, con casi todo de Netflix, nos fuimos con muchos recomendados de audiovisual que ronda el romance de muchas maneras.Las series que recomendamos son:Carlos Esteban Orozco (@carlosestebanor), que cree en el amor, nos recomienda: "Todo va a estar".Felipe Barrientos (@hombrecasette), que todavía es romántico, habla de una serie nostálgica e italiana: "Generación 56k".Juan Arellano (@Cyberjuan), trae una serie de ciencia ficción muy bien hecha: "Sweet Tooth".Juan David Escobar (@elreticente), vuelve al oriente una serie coreana de locura y amor: "Está bien no estar bien".Y por supuesto, al final una cantidad ingente de recomendados.Si quieren más, pues a esperar que volvamos.Más sobre Sin palomitas de maíz en: https://medium.com/sin-palomitas-de-ma%C3%ADzGrabado por Zoom en el año 2021.Producido por: Punto LinkEdición: Juan David EscobarGráficos: Carlos Esteban OrozcoMúsica: Juan Camilo GómezLocución: Santiago Rendón

Dr. Natasha Beck MPH, Psy.D is a parenting expert and founder of Dr. Organic Mommy, an online resource focused on pregnancy, parenting, and non-toxic living. With over 56K loyal and engaged followers who look to her for real-world advice on raising children, Natasha is now known as @dr.organicmommy. She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology, specializing in pediatric neuropsychology, and a Master's in Public Health, specializing in child and family health. She is also certified in leadership education in neurodevelopmental disabilities from Children's Hospital Los Angeles. Dr. Beck has been named one of the Top 100 Health and Wellness Influencers in 2020 by the New Hope Network. She has been featured in New York Metro Parents, Kind Humans, Bumpkins, Benzinga, and Romper and has appeared on the Atomic Moms Podcast with Ellie Knaus, The Hamilton Review, We Gotta Talk with Sonni Abatta as well as MAMA SAID with Jamie-Lynn Sigler & Jenna Parris. On this episode we discuss the impact of diet & environmental toxins and how they effect children's behavior, the importance of reading nutrition labels, her top 3 nontoxic swaps, how to handle mealtime difficulties, and her favorite parenting methods.  You can find great resources on Dr. Organic Mommy's Website and Dr. Organic Mommy on Instagram 

Dr. Beck holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology, specializing in pediatric neuropsychology, and a Master's in Public Health, specializing in child and family health. She is also certified in leadership education in neurodevelopmental disabilities from Children's Hospital Los Angeles. Dr. Beck is currently pregnant with her fourth child. Dr. Natasha Beck MPH, Psy. D is a parenting expert and founder of Dr. Organic Mommy, an online resource focused on pregnancy, parenting, and non-toxic living. With over 56K loyal and engaged followers who look to her for real-world advice on raising children, Natasha is now known as @dr.organicmommy. From how to handle tantrums to mealtime difficulties to helping families live healthier lives, Dr. Organic Mommy aims to help every family make healthy decisions, drawing on her experience as a mom and parenting expert. Her parenting expertise combines the use of Waldorf, Montessori, and RIE philosophies, tied into cognitive-behavioral and play therapy. All proceeds from the Dr. Organic Mommy website go directly to charity. In today's episode, Dr. Beck shares about common toxins in our children's diet. Focusing on sugar, artificial dyes, PFOAs/PFAs, bisphenols, and flame retardants, Dr. Beck teaches about their harmful effect on children's health and how they can be avoided, including tips on how to remove them from your home. Contact: @dr.organicmommy https://www.drorganicmommy.com/ For 15% off all products at Brandless (does not apply to bundles): Use code JUST15 at https://brandless.com/?irclickid=2EGQufSoBxyLRVzXvhRCNXxOUkBRMOWuz1aaSc0&utm_source=impact&utm_campaign=Just.Ingredients&utm_medium=affiliate&irgwc=1

Dans ce numéro estival nous nous retrouvons autour de deux séries coup de cœur pour mettre des paillettes dans votre été. D'abord Génération 56K série italienne, ode à l'amour et à la découverte des nouvelles technologies (Netflix) Ensuite la superbe saison 2 de Mes premières fois (Netflix) qui sait toujours taper dans le mille pour décrire les émois de l'adolescence. Changement d'ambiance dans le bloc notes Fanny nous plonge dans l'univers sombre du polar Cruel Summer (Amazon), Sophie dézingue Most Wanted Criminals (TF1) et Priscilla nous raconte ses retrouvailles avec Arthur dans Kaamelott (au cinéma) et on termine par le très charismatique Kevin Costner dans Yellowstone (Salto).

En este Podcast hablaremos de las últimas noticias en el mundo de las Cripto. Por ejemplo, por que Bitcoin bajo a las $56K, por que ADA ha subido tanto y la revuelta de los mineros contra el EIP-1559 de Ethereum! ✅ Links; - Utiliza el mejor EXCHANGE del Mercado de las criptos BINANCE: https://www.binance.com/es/register?ref=F1BXGLRZ - COINBASE 10$ GRATIS en BITCOIN al Crear tu cuenta: https://www.coinbase.com/join/wupper_v - Gate.io, plataforma para comprar $POLK sin tener que pagar todas las comisiones de Uniswap: https://www.gate.io/ref/3501916 Me podéis encontrar en cualquier red social por mi nombre @christianwupperman Déjame un comentario si tienes alguna duda! Disclaimer: No soy ningún tipo de asesor financiero, todo el contenido que traigo al Podcast es con el objetivo de educar y aprender. Antes de invertir y gastar tu dinero, recuerda que tu eres el único responsable de éste. Tags: Bitcoin, Ethereum, Cripto, Laser Eyes, ETH, BTC, IOTA, Binance, BNB, Coinbase, BTC a 100k, PolkaDot, Cardano, ADA, DOT, UniSwap, UNI, Podcast, Educación, Inversiones, Exchange, Descentralizado, Seguridad, Privacidad, Anonimato, NFTs, Defi, Crypto, Beeple, UpOnly, Bankless

Fretz celebrates the NEW WWE Champion, Bobby Lashley the only way he knows how: obnoxiously. After breaking out the good whiskey, he predicts AEW Revolution and who might die in the exploding barbwire match. Fretz then dusts off his old 56K modem and dials back to WWE Raw on March 5th, 2001. Jerry Lawler has left the company and left a vacant seat on commentary. Luckily, Vince had an extremely good friend in Paul Heyman to fill in and make his WWE debut. Elsewhere, The Dudley Boyz defend the WWE Tag Team Championship against the Hardy Boyz and Vince McMahon and Trish Stratus take part in a segment that is infamous for all the wrong reasons. Woof. Follow Fretz on Twitter/Instagram @Fretzlemania Join our EXCLUSIVE $5 Patreon: www.patreon.com/wrestleaddictradio Merch: https://fretzlemania.myteespring.co/ Patreons get 15% off! Read our exclusive blog with reviews, fan fiction and more! https://writteninwar.wordpress.com/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/wrestleaddictradionetwork/message

Its been a crazy ride. We first were selling 45MG connections for 12k a month and loading them up with PRI's so that customers could go from 56K dialup to 64K. And the story continues. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/buckeyetelecom/support

In this Best of Episode, we re-visit the Prologue to:  "Our story."  We'll be sharing our entire "Our Story" series in the Saturday "Best of Episode" releases over the next few weeks. You don't want to miss these!  We'll be giving you all the juicy details of who we are, where we began, and how it all happened!   This episode was originally published on October 3, 2017.  You can check out the original episode here:  https://flippedlifestyle.com/podcast163/   FULL TRANSCRIPT Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work.  We're your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. We're a real family who figured out how to make our entire living online.  And now, we help other families do the same.  Are you ready to flip your life?  Alright. Let's get started. What is going on, everybody? This is Shane and Jocelyn here, flippedlifestyle.com, super excited to be back with you for another podcast today.  This one's going to be a little different than our normal podcast where we're helping our people take their online business to the next level, members of our Flip Your Life community. Jocelyn and I actually are having a book written about us.  An author is writing a book about our story and a part of that process is we are recording our story on audio for her to listen to, to go through, kind of like in an interview style format. Jocelyn and I were sitting here recording, and we thought, man, what a great opportunity to fill in the gaps and a lot of you listen to our podcast for online business advice and things like that.  But what a great opportunity to share our story with you, how, basically, two normal people from really, really small rural communities in Kentucky over a period of time– we went through our careers, we learned about online business, and we ended up creating this amazing life that we didn't even know existed a few years ago, and maybe just let you guys in on that, and let you walk that journey with us, listen to it, and listen to our story, let it inspire you, and let you know that you can do this, too. Jocelyn: Today, we are starting out with our early life.  A lot of you guys have listened to us on other podcasts and you've heard a lot of our story from the past five years, but what you really don't know is more about us from the past 35 years or more. Shane: That dated us, Jocelyn, you totally had dated us right there.  What we're going to do is we're going to release these every week as we record them and we're going to let them roll out, and this is going to be our story, our journey how we got to where we are, literally, right now today from A to Z.  We're going to look back and connect the dots.  We were writing an outline for today's podcast and it's mind blowing when we were reading it.  We both just stopped, and we're like, “This doesn't even sound real, it doesn't even sound possible,” like, it's incredible when you see looking back with 20/20 hindsight how all of the dots aligned and everything, and all the puzzle pieces came together. What we want you to do is listen to these podcasts.  You are going to get a ton of information out of them that is going to help you succeed in your journey, too, and it's going to help you see those dots in your own life, and see how you have all the puzzle pieces right in front of you, and you just have to move them around and connect them together. Alright, so we're going to jump right into it.  You want to start? Jocelyn:  Oh, we were just having a conversation who was going to start, and Shane's like, “You start.”  And I'm like, “No, you were born first.” Shane: So, this is like those board games we play with Anna Jo and she gets really upset if it's the youngest person first to the oldest person first, so I think we have opened the box to a board game where the oldest guy in the room gets to start off the deals. My story basically starts in a really, really small-town in  Southeast Kentucky.  Very much a coal town, we're a railroad town, we have a depot here and basically all the coal that comes through the mountains of eastern Kentucky comes through my little town.  That was kind of the industry: the railroad, the coal miners, we had less than 5,000 people in my town as we were growing up.  Really, just a very rural childhood.  I lived in the city limits, what we call a city– it's not really a city.  But I lived inside the city limits.  I didn't live out in the country, but a very rural upbringing, not anything remotely related to technology or big business or anything like that. Basically, the people were schoolteachers, coal miners or they worked at the retail stores, like Walmart or something like that– Jocelyn: Or maybe at the hospital. Shane: Or maybe at the hospital.  Yeah, things like that.  That's the kind of jobs that we would have around here.  I'm actually the 4th of five boys.  My parents have five kids, huge age differences between us.  My oldest brother is 19 years older than me.  I've got another brother that is 18 years older than me, and then there was a gap between the middle of all five of us.  The next brother up was nine years older than me, and that I have a little brother who is about three and half years younger than me.  Huge span of children in my family, and lots of different age groups. It was kind of weird because when I was born, two of my brothers were not even in the house and one of them was in college.  When I was nine years old, he'd moved off.  By the time I could remember things and I was a kid, three of my brothers were gone, so it was kind of like I was the oldest, it's me and my little brother.  It was just a bizarre kind of family dynamic and that. Jocelyn: I actually grew up in a small town in Western Kentucky, very flatland. Shane: Still a coal mine in place though. It's a big coal mine place. Jocelyn: Definitely, coal mining is the major industry there.  I was born in 1980. Shane: Oh, yeah, I was born in 1978.  A child of the 70s. Jocelyn: Barely.  My parents, they were really young when they had me.  My mom was just out of high school.  Actually come to think of it, I think she was in high school.  They started from a very young age, they worked very hard to make sure that we had everything that we needed.  I have a sister, she is three years younger than me and we grew up in just a neighborhood, we had a lot of friends who lived next door.  They were probably, I would say, maybe 30 houses in this neighborhood.  It was the 80s, we all ran around and played together — Shane: — Rode bikes — Jocelyn: — Went out at breakfast time, and came in at dinnertime but it is just what we did.  I spent a lot of time outside and a lot of time playing.  No iPads or technology at that time.  I feel very fortunate to have grown up in a time like that. Shane: It is pretty cool.  I think we had similar childhoods growing up because we both grew up in very traditional Southern-type towns, went to church on Sundays, hung out with the neighbors, both of our mom stayed home while our dads worked.  It was just like good, slow-paced, southern life before the Internet, before we had all this technology and stuff. My dad worked really hard, too.  He was an insurance agent.  He had his little independent office where he sold auto insurance.  Had his own business.  It was kind of cool I think that was maybe where the seeds of entrepreneurship kind of were born in me because I can remember my dad telling me about jobs he had had.  Used to drive to Chicago from Kentucky to work in the steel mills during the week and they would drive back to Kentucky.  This was before the interstates, basically, were really in place.  He would come back on the weekends to come down here and he always told me about these grocery stores or restaurants or places he worked. Jocelyn: And he would sleep in the steel mills. Shane: Under the boilers. Jocelyn: He's told us about this before.  They would drive up there to Chicago, they would sleep in the steel mill, and then they would drive home to Kentucky on the weekends. Shane: Yup, they'd work there all day, sleep under the boilers at night where it was warm, and then they would get up and work, and they would come home, after they just did that.  But I would remember that because he would always tell me growing up, I was like, “Well, dad, why do you do this? Everybody else has a job, what are you doing?”  He goes, “Well, I just decided that I would rather be broke and work for myself, and have my time freedom and be able to go to your ball games,” or something like that. That always kind of stuck with me a little bit, and he just said he had worked for other people and he decided it was just better through the ups and downs that they could go at it on his own.  That is what he did. Jocelyn: He's made it a long time.  He is still there today. Shane: Still in business. Jocelyn: Still doing very well. Shane: He's 77 years old, and he's still going in every day.  He loves what he does.  Other than that, he was just very traditional.  Grow up, go to ballgames, played baseball in the summer, played basketball in the fall or in the winter, play a little football in the fall.  We never really traveled much or did anything.  I didn't really know of a lot about I guess the rest of the world other than what you saw on TV or something.  Really, until I went to college, the farthest we ever really drove was maybe up to Lexington Kentucky or down to Knoxville.  That was the big city for me, 250,000 people that was my New York, I guess, growing up.  I did not even fly on an airplane until I was in my 20s.  Just a very small-town, sheltered kind of life. Jocelyn: My dad was a cable engineer.  He has been doing that for a very long time. Shane: He was the cable guy.  Climbing poles, and hooking up cable systems and all that good stuff. Jocelyn: My dad, he is super hard working person. Just something I really respect about him for sure.  I can remember that he always worked extra jobs.  He was an engineer, super smart guy.  People would hire him to do things on the side. I remember he installed satellite dishes and he worked with a guy who did audiovisual type things for a while. I could remember going places with him sometimes at night like when he would install somebody's satellite or something like that, that would be how we would spend time together a lot of times.  I remember those types of things as I was growing up.  My mom, she helped us do everything.  She helped us with our homework when we came home, make sure we were reading, which really wasn't a problem for us because we loved to read. Shane: But she probably helped you learn that. Jocelyn: Oh, of course, she would always work with us and make sure that we had everything we needed for school and take care of all the grocery shopping, and the cooking it, the cleaning and all those types of things that had to be done.  My parents, great people, really appreciate everything that they've done for me growing up. We also did not travel a whole lot.  We would go to the surrounding larger towns which in Western Kentucky are not very large. Shane: There is like, two of them. Jocelyn: Pretty much.  Yes. Shane: Bowling Green yeah, that is about it. Jocelyn: Owensboro, we would go places like that.  We would do that.  We didn't get to take a lot of vacations, far away.  We, instead, would go camping.  Those are some my fondest memories growing up.  We started out tent camping.  We had a boat so we would take it on the lake and we eventually were able to get a camper, which was awesome.  We had an old black-and-white TV. Shane: Was it like a pop-up camper? Jocelyn: No, it was a regular camper. Shane: That little square thing you hook up to the truck kind of deal? Jocelyn: It was orange and white, I remember that. We would pull it with this old green and white truck; we called it Alice. Shane: I think it was the 80s, so weren't all campers orange and white back then with the big stripe? Jocelyn: Yeah, probably, I don't know. But we would take our camper down to the lake.  We would go out and ride in a boat, those were some of my most fun memories growing up.  I could just remember going to the campgrounds, we would go to the pool.  We would swim in the lake.  I was saying we had an old black-and-white TV in the camper, and we thought that was the greatest thing ever because there was no Internet, there was nothing back in the 80s and before when we were tent camping, we just had our books which was awesome, but then when we had this black-and-white TV, we were really high-tech. Shane: High-tech, all three channels that you picked up on the airwaves.  Our upbringing was kind of cool because I would never say we were poor-poor like we were farming for our food or anything.  We were middle class.  We just did not have a ton of stuff.  I grew up in a two-bedroom, one bath house.  We, finally, when I was in high school, I think my sophomore year in high school, maybe my freshman year, we built onto our house, and it was the first time I actually got my own room because I had to share a room with my little brother. But I did get to see our parents as I grew up, they worked so hard, and they built on to their life.  I saw the value of how working hard works.  My dad had this little bitty office that was seriously– how big do you think that building is? It couldn't be 15 x 15, maybe?  It was really tiny.  Had this little bitty, tiny office, and for the first 10 years of my life, I could remember going out into that little office after school.  My dad would put my Legos up on the shelves. I loved going into his office, but it was this little bitty room.  It was probably about as big as the room we are in right now in our house.  I can remember when he upgraded to this bigger space, this bigger office, and I thought, “Man, that was the coolest thing ever,” because you could see the fruits of his labor.  I remember when we built onto our house, basically my five brothers and their families and everybody came over to this little, bitty, tiny house.  We actually had this room we call the back porch.  There used to be a back porch on it, and my that mom and dad built walls and made it like a sunroom. We kind of took it over as the kid room because it was extra space, then we closed in the area that was between the patio in the garage, this big living room.  I got a room on the back, and it was cool watching that progression of, we started with very little, and as I got older, things got better because they worked so hard.  I think it was cool that I didn't necessarily have everything growing up that I wanted, but we always had our needs met, and I got to see my parents build a life, and I think that that definitely had an impact on the stuff that we are doing now. Jocelyn: I definitely had a similar situation.  When my mom and dad started, like you said they were super young.  I can't even imagine my life right now, just the way they had started out versus the way I started out.  It is crazy, but they started out, in a trailer, just in the middle of nowhere. Shane: Stereotypical Kentucky trailer kind of deal. Jocelyn: Yeah, not too much after that, they were able to get a house.  They, later, built a house. Shane: And when we say built a house, Jocelyn's dad literally poured the concrete, hammered the wood, put on the roof, pretty much built the house the they have now by hand in his spare time, when he wasn't being a cable guy. Jocelyn: He did a great job on that, and they still live there today.  It is a beautiful house, so they have just worked hard and– Shane: Basically from nothing. Jocelyn: Yeah, and they've done a great job.  They've built on what they had, the same as Shane's dad's insurance agency, and today their life as much different than it was when they started out.  It is awesome to be able to have been part of all the transformation. Shane: There is a great book called out ‘Outliers' were it talks about people who took advantage of their unfair advantages.  You have the guys like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. Bill Gates, his unfair advantage was he was born into a wealthy family.  There were only three or four computers in the 60s all around the country.  His high school or his school something had access to one of these supercomputers, so he got to learn it early. I think, if I remember the book correctly, Steve Jobs, he lived down the street from Hewlett-Packard.  He would go tinker in his garage, and that was his unfair advantage.  The neighborhood he lived in and the people he had around him. I think that an advantage that Jocelyn and I had was, we grew up in poor, southern Kentucky town to parents who had to work really, really hard for everything they had, and they did an amazing job modeling that for us.  That kind of gave us the foundation that we were able to go forward and say, “Hey, we see something.  Let's go get it!” Jocelyn: And the reason that we start here and tell you guys this is because I think a lot of times, people want to think that, “Oh, look that person has a trust fund,” or, “That person– somebody gave them tens and thousands of dollars to get their business started.” Shane: Or they look for a variable, what was their magic pill? What makes them different than me that makes them succeed, and me not, basically? Jocelyn: We didn't have that.  I am just saying we got started all on our own.  We certainly had support of a loving family– Shane: Love, and a loving family.  That goes a long way. Jocelyn: I don't discount that in any way.  But we didn't have some like super-privileged upbringing, is what we're trying to tell you. Shane: We didn't have the financial advantages of some other people.  We met people that started a business and maybe someone funded it for them, gave them the money to seed their capital for the first business venture, or something like that.  We really literally started from nothing.  We started life, just a normal total upbringing.  When we were starting our business, which we will talk about later, we had nothing.  We had no extra money, no extra time, and all we had were a lot of drive and ourselves.  That is kind of the moral of the story is, you can definitely rely on that work ethic and those things you've learned, you know, the lessons of life growing up from your parents, from other people or whatever and turn that into something successful. While Jocelyn's values and my values are aligned, and we had very similar socioeconomic and regional upbringings, we could not have been two more different people when we were like, growing up.  I was a total knucklehead when I was in school.  I was a football player and was kind of a troublemaker. I didn't do anything too legal but her mom and dad might have had to pick me up from the local police station once or twice. Jocelyn: And how many times did you get kicked out of school? Shane: I actually got sent home from school a few times.  I never got expelled — Jocelyn: You got suspended. Shane: I got suspended a few times.  I like to fight and do some things like that.  I was kind of like, gosh, it's so funny.  I've literally had former teachers, when they hear what we do now, say, “Are you sure that's you? Are you sure that's Shane Sams?” Jocelyn: “Is it a different brother?” Shane: “Is this a different brother? There's five of them. That can't be the same guy.”  I always tested really high on the test scores, and then I would make terrible grades or I wouldn't do my homework, and I just didn't care about school. Jocelyn: People got mad because you are part of the gifted program, right? Shane: Yeah when I was in sixth grade, they put me in this thing called SOAR, which was like our local gifted and talented thing, where you got to take classes at the high school.  Here was me, getting on the bus, this knucklehead who just got suspended from something or whatever I was doing in school, and I'd get on the bus to go over to the– oh, where do we go? We went to the middle school to do those classes, and sometimes we go to high school.  You see all these other straight A, smart people. This is how big of a knucklehead I was.  Multiple parents literally called and said they did not want me to be in the SOAR program, the gifted and talented thing, because they didn't want me with their kids.  That tells you like what kind of idiot I was.  I was just like, man, I just hated the structure of school.  I hated the rules, I hate following rules even today.  It irks me when I am on a railroad track.  I can't be on a railroad track.  I've got to be out exploring or something like that. The things that I did love: I love sports.  I absolutely loved playing football.  I loved media classes.  I got to be the producer of our local news show on our high school news program; loved media class, loved editing, love to technology, but from a school perspective, I just hated it.  I almost missed graduation because we had to do these portfolio things.  We didn't get it done.  I just thought it was the stupidest thing in the world.  I hated keeping up with it, and I literally almost did not do it, and my mom and I were like the week before graduation, we were frantically trying to get this thing done.  Jocelyn was a little bit different when she was in high school. Jocelyn: Yeah, growing up, I would say– and I know that you long-term listeners, you will totally get this.  I was a very high achiever.  I have always been a high achiever; I don't know why.  I think that part of it is just my upbringing.  My parents didn't necessarily pressure me; it's just they always expected us to do our very best.  I think honestly, it is just something that is in my DNA, it's just very important to me to always be a high achieving person in anything that I do. Growing up, I wasn't necessarily competitive with other people, I just wanted to make sure that I was doing everything that I could do.  I generally made straight As in schools I mean, there were a few times that I got a B, and once even a C in Math.  Imagine that! Shane: Yeah, once again, long time listeners. We are not so good at the adding and subtracting over here the Flipped Lifestyle World Headquarters. Jocelyn: Yeah, actually, my very first C ever was in sixth grade, and in math, so that was a fun fact about me.  And I cried.  My parents were like, “What happened?” Shane: My parents cried for joy when I got C's.  “You didn't get a D!” “You didn't fail! Good job, Shane! Woohoo!” Jocelyn: That is not because you were not intelligent.  It was because you didn't apply yourself. Shane: I just didn't care. I never did homework.  Wait until we start telling you about college, and you hear how many times I went to class.  I don't know how I have a degree, to be honest with you. Jocelyn: Back in school, I just followed the rules, I went along with the plan I didn't really cause any problems. Shane: Jocelyn was in the band. Jocelyn: I was actually in the Color Guard. I wasn't in the band. Shane: It's the band.  It is the band. Jocelyn: But I didn't play an instrument.  I was in the Color Guard. Shane: It is the band. Jocelyn: So yeah– Shane: Nothing wrong with the band.  I'm all cool with the band. Jocelyn: So, yeah.  I was just a very straight-laced kind of gal.  Had Shane and I known each other in high school.  There is no way.  This would have never worked. Shane: No chance.  No, no there is no way.  She would have looked at me, and been like, “Who is this loser-jock-guy that won't do anything and won't listen to the teachers and all this stuff?”  Yeah, I am so glad.  It is funny like the person I became was actually totally different, even when you did meet me because when I was in high school, I had a devastating knee injury.  I actually was playing in a football game.  I was playing linebacker, and they handed the guy the ball, it was on the three-yard line, and I came running in to fill the gap, to fill the hole that was created because he was going to score a touchdown when they blocked our lineman. I planted my foot, the guy dove for the end zone.  My cleats went into the ground.  The guy hits my knee and all my weight falls forward with my foot pinned to the ground.  It snapped my ACL and my PCL in half.  I've never felt anything like that since, and I hope I never have to again.  I fell backwards.  He was laying on my foot, and my teammate went to kill him, he hit me instead, and it literally turned my body 360°.  My shoulders were facing one goal post, my toe was facing the other and it snapped all the other ligaments in my leg and that moment basically ended my football career. Over the next couple of years, my first year in college, my last year in high school, I kind of became a different person because I was really down, because I couldn't play the sport that was my identity anymore.  But I started hanging around with different people more, I got away from that kind of jock culture a little bit, it kind of humbled me and mellowed me out a little bit.  It's funny, like that moment in my life, I always point back to for a lot of different things, but if that had never happened to me, as negative and terrible as it was at that time, when I got to the point where I met Jocelyn, it made me a person that I think that she could accept.  I'm kind of glad it happened.  Not only would that not have sent me down a career path, which I will tell you more about later, that we are in now, we would not have been the right fit for each other. Jocelyn: Yeah, I think that's definitely true.  But I'll tell you, before we get to where we met, I will tell you a couple other things about my high school career.  I think that they are relevant to where we are today.  First of all, I told you that I am a high achiever.  I always knew my entire life, not even just in high school, but my entire life, I just knew I just wanted something more than what most people in my town wanted.  Most people in my town, they wanted to grow up, get a job, maybe have some kids. Shane: Young, get-married-the-day-after-graduation kind of thing. Jocelyn: And you know, if that is what you want to do, I don't judge you for it.  It's just that I knew that that wasn't what I wanted for me.  I wanted something more.  I did not know what that something more was, but I just knew that I wanted something more. Shane: It is also important to remember, too, our environment especially in the rural southern Kentucky, there is really high rates of teen pregnancy.  There is really high rates of smoking and drugs and things like that.  It's not this sanitized, you know, everybody is walking up and down Main Street environment.  You see a lot of people just check out of life.  There is not a lot of people trying to go to the next level. In the entrepreneur community, or when you discover online business, man, you see hustlers, easy grinders, you see people wanting to 10X everything.  You see people wanted to change their lives and change other people's lives, and make a difference in the world.  We do not see that.  We see 80% of our people that we grow up with and settle. Jocelyn: And that is okay with them, that is cool with them. Shane: For some of them, they may not want to, but they don't feel like they got the opportunity. Jocelyn: But it has never been okay for me.  I've just never wanted that for my life.  In the early 90s, I mentioned before, that my dad is an engineer, in the early 90s, he realized that having a home computer and being online was going to be something super important.  I am so thankful that he bought us a PC back in 1993.  I was 13 years old, it had a whopping 4 MB of RAM and a 256 MB hard drive. Shane: That's big time right there, now. Jocelyn: I have a memory stick right here in my drawer that probably holds a lot more than that. Shane: The light bulb on our roof probably has more memory.  The light bulb in the ceiling right now, like one of those LED lights that you can control from your phone or something probably is more powerful than the computer that you had. Jocelyn: It might have had 8 MB RAM, I can't remember the RAM exactly, but I know that it did have a 256 MB hard drive, it even had a modem.  It would connect to these local bulletin board systems that are also called BBS's.  Some of you guys know what I'm talking about.  Through a 2400 baud modem. Shane: It might even fit not even the 56K.  You know what I'm saying? Not even your phone modem.  I don't even know what baud means what is a baud? Jocelyn: I think I could, seriously, crawl faster than this transfer data. Shane: You could write down your message, and run it to the guy on the other end of the bulletin board system and come back. Jocelyn: I think probably, somewhere on the Internet, there is a simulation of what a 2400 baud would be like.  Maybe our VA's can– Shane: Maybe we can find that. Jocelyn: –and put it in the show notes for today like what it would look like to load a website in 2400 baud.  Of course, at the time, it was just text but there wasn't even like any pictures or anything. Shane: But just early computers experience like that at the birth of the Internet, basically. Jocelyn: But I learned to communicate with a computer.  We didn't even use Windows.  It was like old school DOS operating system, I learned how to use that. That was like invaluable experience for me just as a kid, learning this on my own, I didn't have any instruction manual. Shane: That was a major investment at that time for your dad and mom who didn't have a lot of disposable income to do that. Jocelyn: They just recognized that this is going to be something super important, and they went out on a limb and did it, and I am so thankful for that.  That is one moment in my life that I think was just critical to my future success.  But my very first online experience was on the coal mine BBS.  It was a local bulletin board system just where local people would talk, and we logged in there. Shane: This was pre-Facebook. This was before Facebook, folks, or MySpace or anything like that. Jocelyn: And we went and met the sysops– the system operators– we went to meet them in person, like we knew them, it was just a good time.  If you are on BBSs back in the 90s, it was good times. Shane: I think I had a similar experience.  My dad is old-school.  My dad was born in the 40s right after the depression era, and wasn't super into the technology; still isn't today– I'm pretty sure his computer at office was Windows 98 or something. Jocelyn: He may be using a flip phone. Shane: He is using a flip phone, and I'm pretty sure he is like still using Paint and stuff. Jocelyn: Loving him. Shane: Love the guy.  He doesn't even use a computer.  He just got one sitting there, and just like, “Yeah, I got a computer.  I don't use it, but whatever.”  I remember when video games really took off, like Atari and Nintendo came out, and all these things.  They were really expensive.  But at Christmas time, he really wanted us to have these video game things, and he actually told me one time, he's like, “I didn't understand computers, I didn't understand what was going on or what it was, but I knew that this technology you guys needed to know it.” He always made sure we had those things.  Not just from a kid perspective, but he wanted us to be familiar with technology, and it was cool because I had friends that had computers.  I remember my cousin; his dad was like Jocelyn's dad.  He was a postman.  He was a post office guy, and he didn't understand really the computer, but he felt like he wanted to give his kids a better opportunity.  He was going to buy a car or that computer, and he bought that computer.  I'm so thankful that he did it because I would walk up to their house to play Wolfenstein 3-D and learn how to type.  But I learned how to use DOS. I think having some kind of technology background for sure was one of those dots that we connected later and at least we spoke the words, the language and things like that.  I'm not saying you've got to have technology background to do that. Jocelyn: But it didn't hurt. Shane: We used an unfair advantage there.  Hey, we were exposed to that when a lot of kids, especially in our area in Kentucky, were just not being exposed to technology. Jocelyn: So I spent a lot of my high school days being obsessed with this PC.  I mean obsessed.  I would start taking programming classes.  That is something they offered at my high school which is really kind of unusual.  There weren't a whole lot of people in those classes. Shane: We had typing.  We had keyboarding on computers, was the most advanced computer thing you got. Jocelyn: We learned keyboarding, too.  I learned keyboarding in middle school, but when we got to high school, we had a very limited selection of business classes.  One of those classes was computer programming.  I am like, “Alright, I'm signing up for this.”  I learned basic, and then I moved on to Pascal, and then started learning some C++ which is actually still used today.  Now, do I still remember it? No. For a variety of reasons but anyway.  I learned those programming languages, and I started learning more and more about computers and they started getting more and more sophisticated.  That was a cool thing about it is that, I just kept up with that and kept learning and kept getting better. Shane: When you went to college, you were trying to be a programmer at first right? Jocelyn: Yeah, and I've got some story about that as we move into the college days, but yeah.  Honestly, when I was in high school, I counted down the days until I could go out to college.  It wasn't because I had a bad home life, I had a fantastic home life, it was just because I wanted something more.  I didn't even know what that something more was.  I just wanted something more.  I was ready to get out. Shane: And Jocelyn left her hometown.  She moved to Lexington to go to University of Kentucky.  She was 17 because Jocelyn is really smart, and she like, skipped second grade something. Jocelyn: I skipped first grade. Shane: First grade, whatever.  She skipped a grade.  She was she literally turned 17 in March of her senior year, that summer– can you imagine having a 17-year-old right now letting them do that– would you let your kids do that? Jocelyn: No — Shane: Because they will meet bad people like you, Shane, they'll be bad influences like you. Jocelyn: Yeah, but the thing about it is, you have to remember, back in the 90s– this is 1997, when I moved to the University of Kentucky, people didn't have cell phones.  A few people did, but a lot of people didn't even have cell phones.  My parents sent their barely 17-year-old daughter– Shane: In a shoddy car– Jocelyn: In a 1989 Buick Skyhawk– Shane: And a 1989 Buick Skyhawk that barely ran.  One time we drove Jocelyn's car, it was– what did you call it? Myrtle or Ethel? Ethel.  She called it Ethel — Jocelyn: Hey, I loved Ethel.  I cried when I traded Ethel in. Shane: I do miss Ethel.  Ethel was a good old girl.  But one time, the muffler broke or fell off or something — Jocelyn: I'm pretty sure it fell off — Shane: I'm pretty sure it fell off, like literally.  We were driving, and all of a sudden you're like, “Oh, it's a car,” and then it goes, wah-wah-wah-wah-wah because it is terrible when the muffler is not on the car.  And we're like, “Did the muffler just fall off?” And she's like, “I saw sparks.  Yeah, I think so.”  We had to go back to Jocelyn's hometown for the weekend or something, and I think my car was broken down or something, too.  Something was going on, so we drove her car there, and we went all the way back to her hometown, like a three-hour drive with no muffler.  That was bad on the ears, that time. Yeah. It's funny you say that though, because we're about to go to the next phase here, but Jocelyn looks back, and you're so systematic now and process-oriented and things like that, and that experience with the computers that you had, you were drawn to that, like you said, you were obsessed with it. I think about going back to high school.  I just hated school, and I think about the things that I did like.  I liked to be talking and argumentative, so I really loved history, political science and debate-style classes.  Also, I loved those video editing classes. Anything where I could take my imagination and be creative, and it's funny how we both, even in our business today, if you look at our roles, how you connect the dots, and it gravitates toward those things, you do deal with a lot of the systematic process stuff.  Even the technology stuff, you talk to our Infusionsoft contractor, and things like that, where I'm doing more like producing the kids' YouTube channels, and working with our editor to make things sound and look right, and it's funny how some people I think that are listening right now may not be connecting all those little things that you take for granted that you could use to build some kind of epic life and business out of, basically. Jocelyn: You know, just remember that when you start looking back at things to affirm your life, there are experiences that are beneficial for you as you move forward in your online business, or whatever it is that you are trying to do.  You might not even think about it right now, but as you think back, then you just remember, that hey, this experience happened for a reason, and maybe it can benefit me in the future. Shane: I think that what's really important about that part of our journey, too, and your journey as you are listening to this show is knowing that there is something else, and knowing that you want something else is the most important part of this entire formula, this entire process because you take our parents; our parents– we've already said, they were really, really hard workers– they all built lives out of nothing, basically.  They didn't have a lot, but they kept building, kept stacking.  They didn't really know outside of our community.  They didn't really know there were other jobs out there. They didn't really know there were other things that they might be able to do or grow. We didn't really know that until maybe five or six years ago, when we started our journey.  We just thought it was, this is the way life was.  The world told us we need to get jobs, we need to be secure, we need to safe, we need to be stable, we need to prepare for the worst case scenario all the time, and just hang on and wait until retirement or whatever. But when you make the decision, I want something else.  When you make the decision, I would like to model that person, I think I could do that, too.  When you look around in your life, and you say, “There's more to this; I can go do this.” And you're like Jocelyn when she leaves, when she's 17 to go find out what that is, or me getting frustrated and bored with what I was doing, and saying, “No, I'm going to go out and pursue another career,” that's the most important part of this whole thing. What we're telling you here is: everything in your life, every experience leads you to a moment where you want something more, and then take action to go do that.  You have all the equipment, all the tools built inside of you whether you know how to use computers or didn't, whether you played sports or didn't, whatever it is, and you can make something happen out of that if you put all of those puzzle pieces together. Guys, that's the first part of our journey, the first part of our lives. That's the backstory of how Jocelyn and I grew up, and next week, what we're going to get into is actually going to college, where we met, and how I knew that I was going to marry this beautiful girl across from me on the microphone right now, I knew it.  I knew it from the first time I saw her, and she did not quite know it yet; she resisted the magnetic pull of my romance. Jocelyn: Can you blame me? Shane: That's what we're going to get into next week.  We're going to talk about basically how our lives, our paths crossed, and how we got into our relationship, and how we dated for seven years almost before we got married, and all that stuff that kind of kicked off the journey that led us to where we are today. As we go through this journey, you're going to learn about how we started online business, how we built our online business, how we made it happen, but what we really want to do is just inspire you.  We have so many examples in the entrepreneur community. You see these young, single millennials, or you see these people that are living in Thailand off of $8.00 a week, or you see these people who work 95 hours a week and they are swearing and they are cussing and they're screaming about how you've got to be a hustler, a grinder, and do this and do that.  But we want to just show you our story so that you can be inspired and realize we are just normal people. 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2019 StackOverflow Survey Results - https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019Episode TranscriptionWelcome back to the Byte. I'm in San Francisco this week for DockerCon, and day one is in the books. It was a lot of information we received in this keynote, and also throughout the day. Talked to a lot of interesting people. Some new companies I was never exposed to before. So, I'm going to kind of dive into these separate topics in different episodes, because there's a lot of information I gathered, and I want to share it with everyone. I find it super interesting, because it's some spaces like IoT, Open Policy Agent, which I haven't really covered in the past, and I've been exposed to now, and it's really interesting. So, I'm going to share this information with you as well.In the keynote for DockerCon, it was focused on first, a customer panel. The customer panel had a couple of financial institutions. It had Carnival Cruise Line, which was really interesting because they're designing a user experience or a customer experience for the passengers. They get a medallion and this medallion kind of anticipates where they're going through the ship, and it helps them navigate the ship. It anticipates their needs, helps you track your family on the ship. It does a lot of cool things. They're actually wrapping Carnival Cruise Line ships in a container, the entire ship, and the experience. It was a very interesting talk.Also, Lindsay Corporation. It's a farm company. They produce machinery, but they're using docker in a global scale for industrial IoT farming, but their farm equipment is saving like 900,000 gallons of water a year, based on the new technology that they're only giving as much water as needed to their farms. It was a really interesting customer panel, to be honest. I wasn't expecting it, because customer panels typically are very salesy, but this was really interesting, so I quite enjoyed it.Next up, we walked through the docker survey, that was available by Stack Overflow. Stack Overflow announced a couple of weeks back about developers adoption of different platforms, but docker scored quite high. Docker for desktop is the most wanted platform. The most loved platform is number two. The most used platform is number three. One, two, three, it's ranked in one of these categories, which is quite impressive.Now, the actual conference, the keynote, we kicked off with docker enterprise, version 3.0. 3.0 encompasses three different features that are coming out. Docker Desktop Enterprise, we've seen that in Barcelona. It seems to become more mature, and it's getting ready. So, I'm getting super excited. I'm already pushing product management for some demos, and some access.Next step, is Docker Kubernetes service, Kubernetes servers DKS. We didn't go in to too much detail here, because it was just lightly touched on. I have a lot of questions here still. Docker application, I'll touch this in a moment, because they did some really cool demos around this.Next up, docker enterprise, docker as a service. Docker enterprise is a service. It's a managed docker installation. So, manage docker on PRIM, in the cloud, on your own machines, wherever you want. This is something that we, as a company, 56K, we see a lot of customers asking for it. They're like, "We want containers. We want these, but we don't want to manage it. We want someone else to manage it." I think it's going after a space that's really needed, to be honest, and it's something that is desired at the moment, I see.Back to docker desktop, Docker Desktop Enterprise. It's come a long way since Barcelona. I've noticed it has a lot more features. It looks a lot more polished. One of the things that stuck out at me, is now you can do version control, so you can have multiple versions running. You can switch between, version one, two, three, four, and this enables you to test and build against a newer version. However, backport it to an older version, that's Maze running in production. So, you can play around with version control there.Also, from an organization point of view, you can control the docker for Desktop Enterprise, deployments, and what versions, and what features and permissions can be installed. From an enterprise perspective, it looks pretty interesting. K8s, Kubernates, and dockers included, obviously they're kind of making like a marketplace within docker for Desktop Enterprise. It's a predefined application stacks. As a company, you can have your bread and butter application. It can be no JS, some Middleware, and a back end. You could wrap it as a predefined application bundle, and your developers can just take it, add their applications into it, and deploy it all through a GUI.This is really lowering the bar for entry into the enterprise space. People that are not maybe familiar with the command line, or not so comfortable. This really opens up the possibilities that people can use docker, it's quite interesting. I'm really looking forward to using it, to be honest.Next up, was on the command line side, is docker App, which is like an implementation of CNAB, and that's a new standard for application bundles. What it is, is the Cloud Native Application Bundle is what it's called, and docker App, allows us to use the same workflow for legacy applications, brownfield, Greenfield, if you were trying to containerize new applications.We saw a demo where they have three different application types, Legacy, brownfield, Greenfield, and they containerized all of them. Basically the command, it looks inside the current directory. Oh, it's a Java directory. You run this command, docker assemble. It actually creates a docker file. It creates some testing files. It creates everything for you. You can actually open up directly from docker for desktop enterprise, in to Visual Studio Code, make your changes, commit it back to get. It's really nice.Additionally, what's also included in here, is now we can do docker pipelines. So, after we do our docker assemble, you can do docker pipeline, and it actually created Jenkins Pipeline for us. It's autogenerated Jenkins pipeline. I thought that was pretty cool. Got a pretty nice reception from the crowd. There's a lot of interesting things coming. I see quite some things in the works.Day two is today, so we're going to see a lot more from the technical side. We're going to dive deeper into the technical side, talk to a lot of companies, and I expect to interview some more people while I'm here, and dive into some of these new company topics, that I've seen, that I wasn't exposed to before. It's been an exciting first day. Day one is in the books. Join me, and I'll keep you updated on how the day goes. Have a great day. See you next time.

E07: The Video Insiders talk with a pioneering software development company who is at the center of the microservices trend in modern video workflows. Featuring Dom Robinson & Adrian Roe from id3as. Beamr blog: https://blog.beamr.com/2019/02/04/microservices-good-on-a-bad-day-podcast/ Following is an undedited transcript of the episode. Enjoy, but please look past mistakes. Mark & Dror Intro: 00:00 The Video Insiders is the show that makes sense of all that is happening in the world of online video as seen through the eyes of a second generation Kodak nerd and a marketing guy who knows what I-frames and Macroblocks are. And, here are your hosts, Mark Donnigan and Dror Gill. Mark Donnigan: 00:22 Well, welcome back to the Video Insiders. It's so great to be here. Dror, how are you doing? Dror Gill: 00:29 I'm doing great and I'm really excited to do another episode of the Video Insiders. I would say this is probably the best part of my day now doing the Podcast. Although, watching video all day isn't bad at all. Mark Donnigan: 00:45 That's not a bad job. I mean, hey, what do you tell your kids? Dror Gill: 00:49 So, exactly, this is [crosstalk 00:00:52]. I work part-time out of my home office and my daughter comes in after school and she sees me watching those videos and she says, "Dad, what are you doing?" So, I said, I'm watching videos, it's part of my work. I'm checking quality, stuff like that. Then she says, "What? That's your work? You mean they pay you to do that? Where can I get a job like that? You get paid to watch TV." Dror Gill: 01:18 Now, of course, I'm not laid back on a sofa with some popcorn watching a full length movie, no. I'm watching the same boring video clip again and again, the same 20, 30 seconds segments, and I'm watching it with our player tool, with Beamr view and typically one half is flipped over like butterfly mode. And then, you're pausing on a frame and you're looking for these tiny differences in artifacts. So, it's not exactly like watching TV in the evening, but you get to see stuff, you get to watch content, it's nice but could get tiring after a while. But, I don't think I'll ever get tired of this Podcast Mark. Mark Donnigan: 02:04 No, no. I know I won't. And, I think going back to what you do in your day job watching video, I think our listeners can relate to. It's a little bit of a curse, because here you are on a Friday night, you want to relax, you just want to enjoy the movie, and what do you see? All of the freaking artifacts and all the ... And, you're thinking that ABR recipe sure could have been better because I can see it just switched and it shouldn't have, anyway, I think we can all relate to that. Enough about us, let's launch into this episode, and I know that we're both super excited. I was thinking about the intro here, and one of the challenges is all of our guests are awesome, and yet it feels like each guest is like this is the best yet. Dror Gill: 02:56 Yeah. Really today we have two of really the leading experts on video delivery. I've been running into these guys at various industry events and conferences, they also organize conferences and moderate panels and chair sessions, and really lead the industry over the top delivery and CDNs and all of that. So, it's a real pleasure for me to welcome to today's Podcast Dom and Adrian from id3as, hi there? Adrian Roe: 03:26 Hey, thank you very much. Dom Robinson: 03:27 Hey guys. Adrian Roe: 03:27 It's great to be on. Dom Robinson: 03:28 How are you doing? Dror Gill: 03:29 Okay. So, can you tell us a little bit about id3as and stuff you do there? Adrian Roe: 03:34 Sure. So, id3as is a specialist media workflow creation company. We build large scale media systems almost always dealing with live video, so live events, be that sporting events or financial service type announcements, and we specialize in doing so on a very, very large scale and with extremely high service levels. And, both of those I guess are really crucial in a live arena. You only get one shot at doing a live announcement of any sort, so if you missed the goal because the stream was temporary glitch to that point, that's something that's pretty hard to recover from. Adrian Roe: 04:14 We've passionate about the climate and how that can help you build some interesting workflows and deliver some interesting levels of scale and we're primary constructors. Yeah, we're a software company first and foremost, a couple of the founders have a software background. Dom is one of the original streamers ever, so Dom knows everything there is to know about streaming and the rest of us hang on his coattails, but have some of the skills to turn that into one's a note, so work for our customers. Dror Gill: 04:46 Really Dom, so how far back do you go in your streaming history? Dom Robinson: 04:50 Well, anecdotally I sometimes like to count myself in the second or third webcasters in Europe. And interestingly, actually one of the people who's slightly ahead of me in the queue is Steve Clee who works with you guys. So, did the dance around Steve Clee in the mid '90s. So, yeah, it's a good 20, 23 years now I've been streaming [inaudible 00:05:12]. Dror Gill: 05:11 Actually, I mean, we've come a long way and probably we'll talk a bit about this in today's episode. But first, there's something that really puzzles me is your tagline. The tagline of id3as is, good on a bad day. So, can you tell us a bit more about this? What do you mean by good on a bad day? Adrian Roe: 05:33 We think is probably the most important single facet about how your systems behave, especially again in a live context. There are hundreds or possibly even thousands of companies out there who can do perfectly good A to B video encoding and transcoding and delivery when they're running in the lab. And, there's some great tools, open source tools to enable you to do that, things like FFmpeg and so on. What differentiates a great service from a merely good service though is what happens when things go wrong. And especially when you're working at scale, we think it's really important to embrace the fact that things will go wrong. If you have a thousand servers running in your x hundred events at any one particular time, every now and then, yeah, one of those servers is going to go up in a puff of smoke. Your network's going to fail, or a power supply is going to blow up, or whatever else it may be. Adrian Roe: 06:31 And so, what we think differentiates a great service from a merely good one is how well it behaves when things are going wrong or ranji, and partly because of the technology we use and partly because of the background we come from. Technically, when we entered the media space, so as a company that was about eight years ago, obviously Dom's been in the space forever, but as a company it's been eight years or so, we came to it from exactly that angle of how can we ... So, our first customer was Nasdaq delivering financial announcements on a purely cloud based system, and they needed to be able to deliver SLAS to their customers that were vastly higher than the SLAS you could get for any one particular cloud service or cloud server. And so, how you can deliver a fantastic end to end user experience even when things inside your infrastructure are going wrong, we think is much more important than merely, can you do an A to B media chain? Mark Donnigan: 07:27 That's interesting Adrian. I know you guys are really focused on micro services, and maybe you can comment about what you've built and why you're so vested in data architecture. Adrian Roe: 07:39 With both things, there's nothing new in technology. So, Microservices as a phrase, I guess has been particularly hot the last, I don't know, three, four years. Mark Donnigan: 07:49 Oh, it's the buzzy, it's the buzzy word. Dror loves buzzy words. Dror Gill: 07:54 Micro services, buzz, buzz. Mark Donnigan: 07:54 There we go. I'm afraid you have to hear the rap, you have to hear his rap. I'm telling you it's going to be number one on the radio, number one on the charts. It's going to be a hit, it's going to be viral, it's going to be [inaudible 00:08:08]. Adrian Roe: 08:09 So, our approach to Microservices I'm afraid is grounded in the 1980s, so if we're going to do a rap at that point, I'd need to have a big bouffant hair or something in order to do my Microservices- Mark Donnigan: 08:18 And new eyes. Dom Robinson: 08:21 You left your flares in my house dude. Adrian Roe: 08:23 Oh, no, my spare pairs are on, it's okay. Actually, a lot of that thinking comes from the Telco space where when we were starting to get into ... In a past life I used to build online banks and big scale systems like that, but one of the things that was interesting when we came to media is actually if you've got 500 live events running, that's a big system. The amount of data flowing through that with all the different bit rates and so on and so forth is extremely high. Those 500 events might be running on a thousand servers plus in order to give you a full scale redundancy and so on and so forth, and those servers might well be spread across three, four, five different data centers in three, four, five different continents. Adrian Roe: 09:14 And, there are some properly difficult problems to solve in the wider space rather than specifically in the narrow space of a particular single element to that workflow. And, we did some research a while back, we said actually other people must have faced some of these challenges before. And, in particular the Telco space has faced some of these challenges for a long time, and people get so used to just being able to pick up the phone and have the call go from A to B, and the technology by and large works so well that you don't really notice it's there, which is actually another good strap line I think, technology is so good you ignore it, that's what we aspire to. Adrian Roe: 09:51 So, we came across a technology called Erlang, which takes a whole approach to how you build systems. It's different to the traditional. As I say, in itself is not a new technology and that's one of the things we like about it, but basically it says the problems that Erlang was trying to solve when it was created back in the '80s was specifically for things like mobile phones, which is where you would have a mobile phone switch, would be a whole bunch of proprietary boards, each of which could handle maybe, I don't know, five or 10 calls or something, and they'd be stuck together and a dish great big rack with some kind of backplane joining them altogether. And, the boards themselves were not very reliable, and in order for the mobile or for the Telcos to be able to deliver a reliable service using this kind of infrastructure, if any one particular board blew up, the service itself had to continue and other calls, it was really important to those other calls weren't impacted and so on and so forth. Adrian Roe: 10:48 So, this language Erlang was invented specifically to try and solve that class of problem. Now, what was interesting is if you then wind the clock forward 20, 30 years from that particular point and you consider something like the cloud, the cloud is lots and lots of individual computers that on their own aren't particularly powerful and on their own aren't particularly reliable, but they're probably connected together with some kind of LAN or WAN that actually is in pretty good shape. Adrian Roe: 11:17 And, the challenges that back then were really customed to the mobile and network space suddenly become incredibly good patterns of behavior for how you can build high scale cloud systems and super reliable cloud systems. And so, this as is always the case, these new shiny technologies, Erlang, for example, had its moment in the sun about a year or so back when WhatsApp was bought by Facebook, because when WhatsApp were bought by Facebook for $18,000,000,000 or whatever it was, I believe that WhatsApp had a total of 30 technical staff of which only 10 were developers, and they build all of their systems on top of Erlang and got some major advantage from that. Adrian Roe: 11:57 And so, when we came into the whole media space, we thought that there were some very interesting opportunities that would be presented by adopting those kinds of strategies. And now, what's nice then about what a Microservices come into that, so in Erlang or the way we build systems, you have lots of single responsibility, small bits of function, and you gather those bits of function together to make bigger, more complex bits of function and then you gather those together to make progressively more larger scale and more complex workflows. And, what's really nice about that as a strategy so people are increasingly comfortable with using Microservices where I'll have this to do my packaging and this to do my encoding, and then I'll plug these together and so on and so forth. Adrian Roe: 12:46 But, when your language itself is built in those kinds of terms, it gives you a very consistent way of describing about the user experience all the way through your stack. And, the sorts of strategies you have for dealing with challenges or problems that are very low level are exactly the same as the strategies you have for dealing with server outages, and so on and so forth. So, it gives you a very consistent way that you can think about the kind of problems you're trying to solve and how to go about them. Dror Gill: 13:10 Yeah, that's really fascinating. So basically, we're talking about building a very reliable system out of components where not all of these components are reliable all the time, and inside those components are made out of further sub components, which may fail. Adrian Roe: 13:28 Correct, yeah. Dror Gill: 13:29 And then, when you employ a strategy of handling those failures and failing over to different components, you can apply that strategy at all levels of your system from the very small components to the large servers that do large chunks of work. Adrian Roe: 13:45 I could not have put it better myself, that is exactly right. And, you get some secondary benefits, so one is I am strongly of the opinion that when you have systems as large and as complex as the media workflows that we all deal in, there will be issues. Things will go wrong either because of physical infrastructure role, just because of the straight complexity of the kinds of challenges you're looking to meet. So, Erlang would take an approach that says let's treat errors as a first class citizen, let's not try and pretend they're never going to happen, but let's instead have a very, very clear pattern of behavior about how you go about dealing with them, so you can deal with them in a very systematic way. And, if those errors that are very, very micro level, then the system will probably replace the things that's gone bad, and do so in a few well under a fractions of a millisecond. So, you literally don't notice. Adrian Roe: 14:41 We had one particular customer where they had a component that allowed them to patch audio into a live media workflow, and they upgraded their end of that particular system without telling us or going through a test cycle or something which was kind of disappointing. And, a week or so after their upgrade, we were looking at just some logs from an event somewhere, and they seemed a bit noisier than usual. We couldn't work out why and the event had been perfect, nothing had gone wrong, and we discovered that they started to send us messages, one part of the protocol, so they were just incorrectly sending us messages as part of this audio integration that they'd done and they were just sending us junk. Adrian Roe: 15:24 And, the handler forwarded our end was doing what it ought to do in those particular cases that was crashing and getting itself replaced. But, because we designed the system really well, the handler and the logic for it got replaced. The actual underlying TCP connection, for example, stayed up and there wasn't a problem. And, actually we're having to restart the handler several times a second on a live two way audio connection and you literally couldn't hear that it was happening. Mark Donnigan: 15:49 Wow. Adrian Roe: 15:49 Yeah. So yeah, you can get ... But, what's nice is exactly the same strategy in the way of thinking about things and works. Yeah, right at the other level where I've gone seven data centers, and 1000, or 1500 servers running and so on and so forth, and it gives you a camera and a consistent strategy for how you reason about how you're going to behave in order to deliver a service that just keeps on running and running and running even when things go bad. I will give one example, then I'll probably let Dom share some of his views for a second, which was there was a reasonably famous incident a few years back when Amazon in US East just disappeared off the map for about four days and a number of very large companies had some really big challenges with that, and frankly we were just offline for four days. Adrian Roe: 16:36 We had 168 servers running in US East at the time for Nasdaq, one of our customers, we did not get a support call. And so, all of the events that were running on there failed over to other servers that we're running in US West typically. About five minutes later we were back in a fully resilient setup, because we'd created infrastructure in Tokyo and Dublin and various other data center, so that had US West disappeared off the face of the earth as well. Again, we might've got a support call the second time around, but we literally read about it in the papers the next day. Mark Donnigan: 17:06 That's pretty incredible. Are there any other video systems platforms that are architected on Erlang, or are you guys the only ones? Adrian Roe: 17:15 The only other one I am aware of out of the box is a company that specializes more in the CDN and final content delivery side of things, so we're not quite unique, but we are certainly highly, highly unusual. Mark Donnigan: 17:28 Yeah. Yeah. I didn't want to go to Dom, and Dom with your experience in the industry, I'm curious what you're seeing in terms of how companies are architecting their workflows. Are you getting involved in, I guess evolutionary projects, that is you're extending existing platforms and you're in some cases probably shoe honing, legacy approaches, solutions, technologies, et cetera, to try and maybe bring them to the cloud or provide some sort of scale or redundancy that they need? Or, are people just re architecting and building from the ground up? What are people doing out there and what are specifically your clients doing in terms of- Dom Robinson: 18:20 So, it's interesting, I was talking, I did a big review of the Microservices space for Streaming Media Magazine, which came out I think in the October edition this year, and that generated quite a lot of conversations and panel sessions and so on. When we've been approached by broadcasters who have established working workflows, and they're sometimes quite testy because they've spent a lot of time and then they're emotionally quite invested in what they might have spent a decade building and so on. So, they often come with quite testy challenges, what advantages would this bring me? And quite often, there's very little advantage in just making the change for the sake of making the change. The value really comes when you're trying to scale up or take benefit from scaling down. So, with a lot of our financial needs clients the cycle of webcasts, if you'd like a strongly quarterly though, it's all about financial reporting at the end of financial quarters. So, they often want to scale down their infrastructure while during the quiet weeks or quiet months because it saves them costs. Dom Robinson: 19:25 Now, if you're doing 24/7 linear broadcasting, the opportunity to scale down may simply never present itself, you just don't have the opportunity to scale down. Scaling up is a different question, but scaling down, if it's 24/7, there's no real advantage to scaling down, and this is true of cloud as much as it is of Microservices specifically. But, when people come to us and say, right, we've really want to make that migration, they sometimes start with the premise that they'd like to take tiny little pieces of the workflow, and just migrate those little tiny incremental steps. In some cases we may do that, but we tend to try to convince them to actually build a Microservice architecture or virtualized architecture to run in parallel. So, quite often we might start with the client by proposing that they look at their virtualized strategies disaster recovery strategy in the first instance. And then, what happens is after the first disaster, they never go back to their old infrastructure. Mark Donnigan: 20:21 I'm sure, yeah. Dom Robinson: 20:22 And after that, they suddenly see they have all the benefits and it is reliable and despite the fact that they have no idea where on earth this physically is happening, it's working and it works really reliably. And, when it goes wrong, they can conjure up another one in a matter of seconds or minutes. These are not apparent until the broadcaster actually puts them into use. I spent 20 years trying to convince the broadcast industry that IP was going to be a thing, and then overnight they suddenly embraced it fully, and these things people do have epiphany's and they suddenly understand the value. Dom Robinson: 20:56 Disaster recovery has been a nice way to make people feel comfortable because it's not a suggestion of one day we're going to turn off your trusted familiar, nailed down tin and move it all into something you have no idea where it is, what it's running on, how it's running and so on. People are risk averse naturally in taking that type of leap of faith, but once they've done it, they almost invariably see the benefits and so on. So, it's about waiting for the culture in the larger broadcasters to actually place that confidence in the, if you like, the internet era, which generally means as people who are being cynical. I used to make testy comments on panel sessions about the over '50s, '60s, I don't know where you want to put your peg in there. Once those guys finally let internet natives take control, that's when the migration happens. Mark Donnigan: 21:48 Yeah, that's interesting. I can remember going back, oh, 10 years or more and sitting in the cable show which no longer exists, but certain sessions there and Cisco was presenting virtualized network function. And, when the room would always be packed and you'd have a sense if you're sitting in these sessions like this is really happening. This is, wow, this is really happening in all the biggest MSLs were there, all the people were there, right? And then, you'd come back the next year, it'd be the same talk the same people in the room, then come back the next year after that and nobody was [crosstalk 00:22:25], because it's the future. Dom Robinson: 22:23 Yeah, absolutely. Dror Gill: 22:28 It was always the future I was making fun of. Mark Donnigan: 22:30 Now, the switch has absolutely flipped and we're seeing that even on the codecs side, because there was a time where unless you were internet native as you said, you needed a full solution, a black box. It had to go on a rack, it had to ... That's what they bought. And so, selling a codec alone was a little bit of a challenge, but now they can't use black boxes, and they're ... So. Dom Robinson: 22:58 Sometimes I liken it to the era of HI-FI as digital audio and MP3 started to arrive, I was quite involved in MP3 as it emerged in the mid '90s. And, I have over the last two decades flip flop from being the musicians, worst enemy to best friend to worst enemy to best friend, and everybody just depends on the mood of the day. I was reflecting, and this is a bit of a tangent, but I was reflecting when you guys were talking about watching for artifacts in videos. I've spent so long watching 56K blocky video that Adrian, Nick and Steven, the rest of the team never ever let me give any opinion on the quality of video, because I'm quite happy watching a 56K video projected on my wall three meters wide and it doesn't bother me, but I'm sure Dror would be banging his head against the wall if he [inaudible 00:23:47] videos. Dror Gill: 23:49 No, I also started with 56K video and real video, and all of those the players and still in the '90s, but I managed to upgrade myself to SD and then to HD, and now if it's not HDR, it's difficult to view. But in any case, if we look at this transition that is happening, there are several levels to this transition. I mean, first of all, you make the transition from hardware to software then from the software to the cloud, and then from regular software running in the cloud and VMs to this kind of Microservices architecture with Dockers. And, when I talk to customers they say, yeah, we need it as a Docker, we're going to do everything as a Docker. But then, as Mark said, you're not always sure if they're talking about the far future, the new future, the present, and of course it changes if you're talking to the R&D department or you're talking with the people who are actually doing the day to day production. Adrian Roe: 24:51 There were some interesting ... And, I think Docker, this maybe a slightly unpopular thing to say, but yeah, so I think Docker is fantastic and yeah, we use it on a daily basis and development and it's a great on my laptop, I can simulate a cluster of eight servers or doing stuff and failing over between them and so on and so forth and it's fantastic. And, and we've had Docker based solutions in production for four years, five years, certainly a long time, and actually we were starting to move away from Docker as a delivery platform. Dror Gill: 25:22 Really? That's interesting. So, you were in the post Docker era? Adrian Roe: 25:26 Yes, I think just as other people are getting very excited that their software can run on Docker, which I always get confused with announcements like that, because Docker is essentially another layer of virtualization, and strangely enough people first all got excited because their software would run not on a machine but on a virtual machine and it takes quite a strange software requirement before the software can really even tell the difference between those. And then, you move from a virtual machine to a Docker type environment. Adrian Roe: 25:52 Yeah. Docker of course being conceptually nothing new and yeah, it's a wrapper around something the Linux kernel has been able to do for 10 years or so. Yeah. And, it gives you certain guarantees about kerniless and that the sandbox isn't going to interfere with the sandbox and so on and so forth. And, if those things are useful to you, then absolutely use Docker to solve those business problems. Adrian Roe: 26:13 And another thing that Docker can do that again solves a business problem for me when I'm developing is I can spin up a machine, I can instantiate a whole bunch of stuff, I can create virtual networks between them, and then when I rip it all down my laptop's back in pretty much the same state as it was before I started, and I have some guarantees around that. But especially in a cloud environment where I've got a premium job coming in of some sort, I'll spin up a server to do that and probably two servers in different locations to be able to do that. And, they'll do whatever they need to do and yeah, there'll be some complex network flows and so on and so on and so forth to deliver that. Adrian Roe: 26:48 And then, when that event's finished, what I do is I throw that server in the bin. And so, actually Docker there typically is just adding an extra abstraction layer, and that abstraction layer comes at a cost in particular incidence of disk I/O and network I/O that for high quality video workflows you want to go into with your eyes open. And so, when it's solving a business problem for you, I think Docker is a fantastic technology, and some very clever people are involved and so on and so forth. I think there's a massive amount of koolaid been drunk just to see if Docker where it's actually adding complexity and essentially no value. Dror Gill: 27:25 So, I would say that if you have, as I said, if you have a business problem, for example, you have Linux and Windows servers, it's a given you can't change that infrastructure and then you want to deploy a certain task with certain servers, and you wanted to work across them seamlessly with those standard interfaces that you mentioned, then Docker could be a good solution. On the other hand, what you're saying is that if I know that my cluster is fully Linux, certain version of Ubuntu, whatever, and because that's how I set it up, there's no advantage in using the Dockers because I can plan the workflow or the workload on each one of those servers, and at the level of cloud instances launch and terminate them, and then I don't need the Docker. And the issue of overhead, we haven't seen a very large overhead for Docker, we always compare it to running natively. However, we did find that if your software is structured in a certain way, it can increase the overhead of Docker beyond the average. Dom Robinson: 28:31 Something important that came up in some of the panels, Streaming Media West and content delivery world recently on this topic, at the moment people talk synonymously about Microservices and Docker, and that's not true. Just because something's running in Docker does not mean you're running a Microservices architecture. In fact if you dig under the ... All too often- Dror Gill: 28:50 Right, it could be a huge one of the thick servers. Servers that are just running on Docker. Dom Robinson: 28:54 Exactly. All too often people have just simply drop their monolith into a Docker container and called it a Microservice, and that's a ... Well, I won't say it on your Podcast, but that's not true. And, I think that's very important, hence we very much describe our own Erlang based architecture as a Microservices architecture. Docker is as Adrian was explaining, it's nice to have in certain circumstances, it's an essential, but in other circumstances it's just not relevant to us. So, it is important that Docker is a type of virtualization and is nothing to do with Microservices architecture, and it's a very different thing. So, well Adrian might kick me under the virtual table. Adrian Roe: 29:27 No, no, that's all ... Yeah, there's a lot of people who will say if you take an application and you turn it into ... You take a monolithic application and Microservicize it what you have is a monolithic application that's now distributed. So, you've taken a hard problem and made it slightly harder. Dom Robinson: 29:44 Exactly. Adrian Roe: 29:45 So, what's probably more important is that you have good tools and skills and understanding to deal with the kinds of challenges you get in distributed environments. And, actually understanding your own limitations is interesting there. I think if you look at how one coordinate stuff within a particular OS application, then Microservices are a great way of structuring individual applications, and they can cooperate, and they're all in the same space, and you can replace bits of them and that's cool. And then, if you look at one particular server, again, you're Microservices architecture there might go, okay, this component is an an unhealthy state, I'm going to replace it with a clean version and yeah, you can do that in very, very quick time and that's all fantastic. Adrian Roe: 30:33 And then, maybe even if I'm running in some kind of local cluster, I can make similar decisions, but as soon as I'm running in some kind of local cluster, you have to ask the question, what happens if the network fails? What's the probability of the network failing? And if it does, what impact is that going to have on my service? Because yeah, it's just as bad typically to have two servers trying to deliver the same instance of the same live services as it is to have none, because there'll probably be a closed network floods and all sorts of bad things can happen as a result, so. Adrian Roe: 31:08 And then, if you look at a system that's distributed over more than one day center that absolutely just going, oh, I can't see that other service. Yeah, so Microservice is part of my overall delivery. Making decisions based on that is is something you need to do extremely carefully and there's an awful lot of academic work done around consensus algorithms in the presence of network splits and so on and so forth, and it's not until you understand the problem quite well that you actually understand how damned hard the problem is. You're just naive understanding of it is, oh, how hard can it be just to have three servers agree on which of them should currently be doing x, y, z job? Turns out it's really, really, really hard, and that you stand on the shoulders of giants because there's some amazing work done by the academic community over the last few decades, go and leverage the kind of solutions that they've put together to help facilitate that. Dom Robinson: 31:59 I think one of the upsides of Docker though is it has subtly changed how dev teams are thinking, and I think it's because it represents the ability to build these isolated processes and think about passing data between processes rather than just sharing data in a way a monolith might have done. I think that started people to architect in a Microservices architecture. I think people think that that's a Docker thing, but it's not. Docker is more of a catalyst to it than actually bringing about the Microservices architecture. Mark Donnigan: 32:33 That's interesting Dom. I was literally just about to make the point or ask the question even. I wonder if Docker is the first step towards truly Microservices architecture for a lot of these organizations, and I think Adrian did a great job of breaking down the fact that a lot of maybe what is getting sold or assumed to be Microservices really isn't, but in reality it's kind of that next step towards a Microservices architecture. And, it sounds like you agree with that. Dom Robinson: 33:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's part of the path, but it's a- Mark Donnigan: 33:12 That's right. Dom Robinson: 33:13 Going back to my original statement Doc- Adrian Roe: 33:13 I am not even sure that strongly it's an available tool in this space. Mark Donnigan: 33:18 It's an available tool, yeah. Adrian Roe: 33:18 You can absolutely build Microservices at dentonville Docker anywhere. Yeah. Mark Donnigan: 33:24 Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. I wasn't saying that Docker's a part of that, but I'm saying if you come from this completely black box environment where everything's in a rack, it's in a physical location, the leap to a truly Microservices architecture is massive. I mean, it's disruptive on every level. Adrian Roe: 33:46 And, it's a great tool, it's part of that journey. I completely do agree with that. Mark Donnigan: 33:48 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, this leads into a conversation or a topic that's really hot in the industry right now, and that's a low latency. I was chuckling, I was walking around Streaming Media West just couple of weeks ago, and I don't think there was one booth, maybe there was one, I just didn't see it. Maybe the Panasonic camera booth, they didn't have low latency plastered all over it, but every booth, low latency, low latency, Adrian Roe: 34:16 There's some interesting stuff around low latency because there's a beautiful reinvention of the wheel happening because, [crosstalk 00:34:28]. Mark Donnigan: 34:29 Well, let's talk about this because maybe we can pull back a little bit of the, I don't know the myths that are out there right now. And also, I'd like to have a brief real honest conversation about what low latency actually means. I think that's one of the things that, again, everybody's head nods, low latency. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We want that too, but then you're like what does it mean? Dror Gill: 34:57 Yeah, everybody wants it. Why do they want it, is an interesting question. And, I heard a very interesting theory today because all the time you hear about this effect of if you're watching a soccer game and you have a lot of latency because you're viewing it over the internet and somebody else has cable or satellite and they view it before you, then you hear all those roars of the goal from around the neighborhood and this annoys the viewer. Dror Gill: 35:25 So, today I heard another theory that that's not the problem of low latency because to block those roars you can just isolate your house and put on headphones or whatever. The real problem that I heard today is that, if there's a large latency between when the game actually happens and when you see it, then you cannot affect the result of the game. Okay? So, the theory goes like this, you're sitting at home, you're wearing your shirt and your fan, and you're sitting in a position that is a lucky position that will help your team. So, if the latency is high then anything you do cannot affect the game because it's too late, because the latency is low you'll have some effect over the result of the game. Adrian Roe: 36:13 When TiVo was brand new and there was the first personal video digital video recorders were a thing. They had this fantastic advert where somebody was watching an american football game, and as they're in sudden death overtime and the kick is just about to do a 45 yard kick. Yeah, and if it goes over, they win the game and if it doesn't, they lose the game. Kickers just running up towards it and he hits pools on the live stream, runs off to the church, prays for half an hour, comes back, and it's really good. Dror Gill: 36:47 Oh, so that's the reason for having a high latency. Adrian Roe: 36:55 It's interesting, the primary businesses in broadcast distribution as In over the air type distribution, but we do a bunch of the hybrid TV services, and as part of that we actually have to do the direct hand off to a bunch of the TVs and set top boxes and so on and so forth. Principally because, the TVs and sets of boxes are so appallingly behaved in terms of the extent to which they deal with then follow standards and so on. So, in order to deliver the streams to a free view plus HDTV in the UK, we just deliver them a broadcast quality transport stream as a progressive download, and entirely so this has been live in the field for, I don't, seven years or something. And entirely without trying to, we have an end to end latency of around two seconds from when the viewer in the home sees it on the TV, as opposed to the original signal coming off the satellite. And nowadays, that would be called super low latency and actually clever and remarkable and so on and so forth. And actually, it's primarily created by the lack of segmentation. Mark Donnigan: 38:01 That's right. Adrian Roe: 38:03 What's happened that suddenly made you have an RTMP streams. It's depended a little bit on how much buffering you had in the player and so on, but they typically have an end to end latency in a video workflow based around RTMP, five, six seconds, that was normal and they would really comment on it. And now, suddenly that you have segment oriented distribution mechanisms like HLS and Dash and all these kinds of things, people talk about low latency and suddenly they mean five to 10 seconds and so on and so forth. And, that's actually all been driven by the fact that I think by and large CDNS hate media, and they want to pretend that all media or assets are in fact JPEGS or JavaScript files and so and so forth. Dror Gill: 38:48 Or webpages. Adrian Roe: 38:49 Exactly. Dror Gill: 38:50 Yeah, like small chunks of data that's what they know how to handle best. Adrian Roe: 38:52 Exactly. And so, the people distributing the content like to treat them as static assets, and they all have their infrastructures built around the very, very efficient delivery of static assets, and that creates high high latency. So, you then get technologies like WebRTC which is emerging, which we use heavily in production for ... So, one of our customers is a sports broadcaster, their customers can deliver their own live commentary on a system over WebRTC, and it basically doesn't add any latency to the process because while we'll hand off a low latency encoder of the feed over WebRTC to wherever the commentator is, the commentator will view the stream and commentate. Adrian Roe: 39:34 In the meantime, we're going to a really high quality encode. In fact, this might be a mutual customer, but I probably won't say their name on air. We're going to do a really high quality encoder that same content in the meantime, and by the time we get the audio back from the commentator, we just mix that in with the crowd noise, add it to the video that we've already encoded at that point and away you go. And, you're pretty much getting live commentary on a system for free in terms of end to end latency. Yeah, and then sports, so we should be using WebRTC, we should be in this ... Adrian Roe: 40:05 The problem, CDNS don't like WebRTC not at least because it's a connection oriented protocol. You can't just do the same for everybody. You've got to have separate encryption keys and it's all peer to peer and so on and so forth. And so, it doesn't scale using their standard models. And so, most of the discussion around low latency as far as I can tell is the extent to which you can pretend that your segmented assets are in fact live streams, and so Akamai has this thing where they'll start playing a segment before it's finished and so on and so forth. Well actually, it starts to look an awful lot like a progressive download at that point. Mark Donnigan: 40:41 That's a great point. That's absolutely. Absolutely. And, what I find as I've walked around, like I said, walking around Streaming Media West, and looking at websites, reading marketing material, of everybody who has a low latency solution with a few exceptions, nobody's addressing the end to end factor of it. So, it cracks me up when I see an encoding vendor really touting low latency, low latency and I'm sitting here thinking, I mean Dror, what are we like 20 milliseconds? How much more low latency can you get than that? Dror Gill: 41:19 Yeah, at the Kodak level it is very low. Mark Donnigan: 41:21 Yeah, at the Kodak level. And then, when you begin to abstract out and of course the process adds time, right? But still, I mean the point is, is like it's ... I don't know, I guess part of what am reacting to and what I'm looking for, even in your response is that end to end, yes, but addressing latency end to end is really complicated because now just as you said, Adrian, now you have to look at the CDN, and you have to look at what you're doing on packaging, and you have to look at even your player architecture like progressive download. Some players can deal with that, great, other players can't. So, what do you do? Dom Robinson: 42:04 So, one of the things that I think just stepping back and having a reasonably long game view of the evolution of the industry over here in, in the UK, particularly in Europe general, low latency has been a thing for 15, 20 years. And, the big thing that's changed and why low latencies all over the global US driven press is the deregulation of the gambling market, and that's why everyone's interested in low latency. Over here in the UK, we've had gambling online for live sports for 15, 20 years. And, for everyone ... I used to run a CDN from 2001 to end of the 2000s, and all the clients were interested in was fast start for advertising for VOD assets and low latency for betting delivery. And obviously, low latency is important because the lower the latency, the later you can shut your betting gates. And, if you've got a ten second segment or 30 seconds to an hour, three segments to wait, you've got to shut your betting maybe a minute, half a minute before the race finishes or before the race starts, whichever way you're doing the betting. Dom Robinson: 43:14 And, that was very important over here. You didn't have a gambling market in the states online until last year I believe. And so, low latency just really wasn't very interesting. People were really only interested in can actually deliver reliably a big audience rather than can I deliver this to even small audiences, but with low latency, because I've got a betting market going on. And, as that betting deregulations come in, suddenly all the US centric companies have become really fascinated in whether they can shorten that low latency and so on and so forth. And, that's why companies 15, 20 years ago, over here, some of the big sports broadcast and so on, they were using RTMP extensively so that they could run their betting gates until the last second, and it really ramps up the amount of betting in those few seconds before the race starts. Dom Robinson: 44:03 So, that's why it's important. It's not for any other reason. In fact, I sometimes rather sourly ask audiences if they really ever heard their neighbors cheering to a football game before they've seen it because being caught on a sweeney of socially gathering around the TV, and it's an important game like that where your neighbors might have have their TV on loud enough, you frankly got a TV and it's on as well. Dom Robinson: 44:28 The real benchmark of the whole thing is can you beat the tweet, that's the measurable thing, and there's absurd little data in a tweet and a lot of tweets are machine generated, a goal is scored and it doesn't even take a fan in the stadium to type it, and send it to his friends, it's just instantly updated trying to beat a few packets of data across the world compared to trying to compress video, get it buffered, get it distributed across probably two or three stages of workflow decoded in the player and rendered. You're never going to be to tweet at that level. So, really the excitement is about betting, the deregulation of the betting market and gambling market. Dror Gill: 45:06 So, that's interesting. Today you don't measure the latency between and over the air broadcast and the top over the internet broadcasts, but you want to beat another over the internet broadcast, which is a very small packets of the tweet. So. Adrian Roe: 45:22 Exactly right. Dror Gill: 45:23 Actually, competing with the social networks and other broadcast networks. Dom Robinson: 45:26 Exactly. Adrian Roe: 45:28 I can remember, there were tongue in cheek when WhatsApp were bought, they were boasting about the number of messages that they dealt with a day, and yeah it was very large number, billions of messages a day. And, I remembered a little back of an envelope calculation that if you ... Based on the adage that a picture was worth a thousand words, and across all the various different events and channels and live sports and stuff like that we cover, if you counted a thousand words for every frame of video that we delivered, we were two orders of magnitude higher than WhatsApp. Dror Gill: 46:07 So, yeah. So, you had more traffic in your small company, you had more traffic than WhatsApp. Adrian Roe: 46:11 Yeah. Dror Gill: 46:13 A picture is worth a thousand words, and then you have 25 or 50 pictures every second. And, this is across all of your channels. So, yeah [crosstalk 00:46:22]. Mark Donnigan: 46:21 That's a lot of words. It maybe chuckle up. Well, this is- Dror Gill: 46:27 We always say video is complicated and now we know why. Mark Donnigan: 46:32 Exactly. Well, this has been an amazing discussion, and I think we should bring into a close with, I'd really like your perspective, Adrian and Dom, you're working with broadcasters and presumably sitting right in the middle of this OTT transition. Dom, I know you mentioned that for 20 years you'd been evangelizing IP, and now finally it's a thing, everybody gets it. But, just curious, maybe you can share with the listeners some trends that you're seeing, how is a traditional broadcast or someone who's operating a little more of your traditional infrastructure, et cetera, how are they adopting OTT into their workflows? Are they building parallel workflows? Are some fork lifting and making the full IP transition. I think this is a great conversation to end with. Adrian Roe: 47:25 I think we're right at the cusp of exactly that. So, none of our customers are doing it side by side if they are full blown traditional broadcasters. I think increasingly a lot of our customers who may be deliver exclusively over the internet would also consider themselves broadcasters, and so I think the parlance is perhaps slightly out of date, but that's one of the things that I think is really interesting is some of the cultural challenges that come out of this. So, one of our customers who is a full blown traditional broadcaster, when you're dealing with fault tolerant large scale systems of the sort, that idea is built, then one of the things that's a given is that it's going to be a computer that decides which server is going to be responsible for which particular, this is BBC one's encoder, this is ... Yeah, whatever ITVs encoder or whatever. It's going to be a computer that makes those decisions because a computer can react in milliseconds if one of those services is no longer available and reroute it somewhere else. Adrian Roe: 48:28 And, this wasn't a public cloud implementation it was a private cloud implementation that they had couple of racks of servers and data management infrastructure on top that was doing all of the dynamic allocation and tolerance and all this clever stuff. And they said, so when we're showing our customers around, if channel four comes around, how can we tell then which is their encoder? And we said, you count. There isn't a channel four encoder there's an encoder that might be doing the job. Adrian Roe: 48:55 And, one of the features we had to add to the product as just to get over the cultural hurdle with them was the concept of a preferred encoder. So, if everything was in its normal happy state, then yeah, this particular encoder, halfway down on the right hand side of rack three, was going to be the one doing channel four, and just those simple things where they think people do still think in terms of appliances and raw rian and so on and so forth, and some of the challenges to move away from that into cloud thinking bit actually on the cloud or not, cloud thinking still applies it. It's funny where people trip up. Dom Robinson: 49:36 One of my bugbears in the industry, I'm a bit of a pedant with some of the terminology that gets used and so on. One of my bugbears is the term OTT. So, having spent a good long while playing with video and audio distribution over IP networks and so on, I struggle to think of any broadcast technology, which doesn't use IP at some point in this either production or distribution workflow, there just isn't any now. And so, if you're watching live news, the contribution visa coming over cell phones which are contribution is some sort of streaming protocol or a film or TV program production people are emailing files or they're dropboxing files, or they're sending them through digital asset management systems or however it may be. Dom Robinson: 50:20 But, the programs are being created using IP and have been for quite a while and increasingly nobody replaces technology with some sort of proprietary non IP based tool these days at any level in the broadcast industry. I rather store everything I can to try to avoid using the word OTT. And being a pedant about it, OTT simply means the paywall is outside of this last mile access network. That's all it means. It has nothing whatsoever to do with video distribution or streaming or anything like that. It's simply to do with where you take your payment from somebody. Dom Robinson: 50:57 So, Netflix has a hybridized side, but Netflix, you generally access through an ISP and when you make your payment, you pay Netflix directly. You don't pay through your ISP, that is an OTT service. Skype is an OTT service. Again, you connect through your phone service, your cable service, whatever it may be, but you actually subscribe directly with Skype, that is a true OTT service, and that's what OTT means. It's become in the last eight years synonymous with streaming ,and I can't think of a broadcast network which doesn't at some point use IP either streaming or file transfer based technologies to compose the program. Dom Robinson: 51:37 So, broadcast is streaming, streaming is broadcast. They have been synonymous for over a decade. It is how you connect the payment, which defines something as OTT, and it may well be that you can receive a video stream outside of one particular ISPs network, but that doesn't really mean anything. So, this battle between broadcast and OTT, it's a meaningless decision of where you're collecting payments for me. It really doesn't have any bearing on the technologies that we all work with which are video compression and distribution and so on. So. Mark Donnigan: 52:11 That's brilliant. That is really, really a smart observation and analysis there Dom. Well, I think we should wrap it up here. We definitely need to do a part two. I think we will have you guys back, there's so much more we could be talking about, but I want to thank our amazing audience, without you the Video Insiders Podcast would just be Dror and me talking to ourselves. Dror Gill: 52:38 Buzzing to ourselves some buzzy words. Mark Donnigan: 52:40 Buzzy words, buzzing, buzzing, taking up bits on a server somewhere and this has been a production of Beamer Imaging Limited, you can subscribe at thevideoinsiders.com where you can listen to us on Spotify, on iTunes, on Google Play, and more platforms coming soon. 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