Podcasts about Carl Rogers

Forrest and Dr. Rick explore how self-concept, the invisible architecture of who we are, shapes our lives. They discuss how identity can become a cage, the unconscious beliefs we have about who we are, and how loosening those beliefs might be the key to lasting change. Forrest and Rick talk about the science of psychological flexibility, how to challenge limiting self-beliefs, and why a little more “don't-know mind” can go a long way. They share insights from Carl Rogers, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), and Buddhist philosophy, and focus on practical ways to update your self-concept without losing who you are. You can watch this episode on YouTube. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 1:40: What is self-concept? 8:25: Stories, frameworks, and expectations 13:30: ‘I' vs. ‘me', and feeling misunderstood 16:55: Carl Rogers' framework of self-concept and congruence 24:20: Common tropes for defending identity 30:45: Applying principles of biological evolution to your sense of self 34:50: Resistance to change, and misguided beliefs 40:35: Don't-know mind, affirmation, and taking in the good 47:30: The Buddhist conception of the self 53:40: Living in direct experience, and basic trust 56:50: Recap Support the Podcast: We're now on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors Get Headspace FREE for 60 days. Go to Headspace.com/BEINGWELL60 to unlock all of Headspace FREE for 60 days. Head to fastgrowingtrees.com/BEINGWELL to get 15% off the best deals for your yard. Use BEINGWELL at checkout, and take advantage of their Alive and Thrive Guarantee! Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/beingwell.  Get 15% off OneSkin with the code BEINGWELL at https://www.oneskin.co/  Go to ZOE.com and find out what ZOE Membership could do for you. Use code WELL10 to get 10% off membership. Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

BONUS: NVC, Walking Towards Conflict with Love With Maria Arpa and Bob Marshall In this BONUS episode, we explore Nonviolent Communication (NVC), a powerful tool that has changed how many people work and relate to family, friends, and colleagues. Maria Arpa, a previous guest on the podcast, and who studied directly under Marshall Rosenberg, the creator of NVC, shares her insights on this transformative practice. Joining us is Bob Marshall, an NVC advocate and practitioner who applies these principles in organizational settings. Understanding the Foundation of Nonviolent Communication "We have universal needs... what we try to distinguish is the need and the strategy I'm using to meet the need." Nonviolent Communication is both a practical communication tool and a spiritual practice designed to help us connect more authentically with ourselves and others. Maria explains how NVC emerged from the work of Dr. Marshall Rosenberg, who studied under Carl Rogers, the developer of person-centered therapy. At its core, NVC represents a paradigm shift away from what Maria calls "domination culture" – a system built on hierarchy, punishment, and obedience to rules. The dominant culture in which we live often relies on fear, guilt, and shame to motivate behavior. In contrast, NVC comes from the philosophy of nonviolence, encouraging people to be independent thinkers who make choices from their own internal compass. This approach recognizes that all people have the potential to manifest love, even in challenging situations. The Power of Needs-Based Theory "If I take a need for fairness or respect... how many ways are there to meet that need? And what if you believe you're meeting your need for fairness using whatever strategy you're using, and I believe that is impacting on my need for respect? We have a collision in strategies." A fundamental aspect of NVC is needs-based theory. Maria explains that while we all share universal needs – from basic physical requirements like air and food to psychological needs like creativity, recognition, and fairness – conflicts arise not from the needs themselves but from the strategies we use to meet those needs. This distinction between needs and strategies offers a powerful framework for resolving conflicts. When we understand that we're arguing over strategies, not the underlying needs, we can empathize with each other and explore different approaches that honor everyone's needs. As Maria advises, "Don't try to strategize until you understand all the needs on the table." Breaking Free from the Debate Model "The debate model of conversation is about one argument prevailing over all others... it's a terrible idea for when we want to meet as humans and have a conversation." Maria highlights how our society has embraced the debate model of conversation, where one perspective must win over others. This approach, while potentially useful in controlled settings like scientific research, creates significant problems in human interactions. When operating in debate mode, we're focused on overpowering others or protecting ourselves from humiliation rather than genuinely connecting. The dialogue roadmap that Maria developed offers an alternative to this debate model. It allows people to express themselves fully – to "empty out" everything they're carrying, even if it doesn't initially make coherent sense. This process helps people make sense of their experiences and move toward authentic dialogue rather than competitive debate. NVC in Organizations: Addressing Collective Needs "Needs are getting ignored in most organizations... it's not that we have shared needs and we debate about the strategies for getting those needs met." Bob Marshall, an organizational psychotherapist, explains how NVC principles can transform workplace dynamics. He observes that many organizations operate through "fear, obligation, guilt, and shame" – what he calls "the four horsemen of the work apocalypse." These mechanisms are used to control behavior but create toxic environments that diminish both productivity and well-being. By applying NVC in organizational settings, Bob helps collective entities recognize and address their needs. Many companies are unaware of their collective needs, and some cultures even shame people for acknowledging needs exist. Helping organizations understand their shared needs creates a foundation for healthier, more productive workplaces where people can thrive rather than merely survive. In this segment, we refer to an episode with Michelle Pauk, where we explore the lessons from Foucault's Book Discipline and Punish, and to Manfred Max-Neef, a Chilean economist. The Connection Before Correction Principle "One of the most wonderful things is connection before correction." Maria emphasizes the importance of building relationships before attempting to change behaviors or address problems. She suggests that our fast-paced world has created a situation where our emotional processing cannot keep up with the speed of our actions and decisions. We've become skilled at multitasking and meeting deadlines but haven't paid adequate attention to our emotional needs. The result is that many people are emotionally "backed up" or "constipated" – unable to process their feelings in healthy ways. Maria's work involves slowing things down to create space for authentic connection and emotional integration. This approach doesn't sacrifice efficiency – as she notes, "We get more done with less resource once we've been through the tunnel." Learning Directly from Marshall Rosenberg "Marshall Rosenberg said, 'The people that are going to take this forward will have the right balance of compassionate understanding and political savvy.' And I just went, 'That's me.'" Maria shares her personal journey with NVC, beginning with a chance encounter at her son's school that led her to attend a presentation by Marshall Rosenberg. She was immediately captivated by his approach, which answered questions she had been unable to resolve through other therapies and educational frameworks. Her pivotal experience came in 2005 when she joined Rosenberg and others for a 15-day intensive in Switzerland focused on social change. This immersive experience transformed her understanding of communication and human connection. When she asked Rosenberg who would carry his work forward, his answer about needing both "compassionate understanding and political savvy" resonated deeply with her, setting her on a path to develop her own applications of NVC principles. In this segment, we refer to the book The Surprising Purpose of Anger by Marshall Rosenberg. About Maria Arpa and Bob Marshall Maria Arpa is a facilitator, mediator, and trainer who describes her work as "walking towards conflict with love." She developed the Dialogue Road Map, a framework that builds on NVC principles to guide people out of debate-style conversations into authentic dialogue. Maria studied directly under Dr. Marshall Rosenberg and has applied NVC in various challenging contexts, including working with gang violence and facilitating dialogue between concentration camp survivors and a business that had purchased a former concentration camp site. You can link with Maria Arpa on LinkedIn and follow Maria's work on her website. Bob Marshall is an organizational psychotherapist who works with the collective psyche of organizations. He has been studying and practicing NVC for over 15 years, incorporating it into his work helping organizations understand and meet their collective needs. Bob believes in creating more joyful work environments and has dedicated his career to helping people have more pleasant experiences in the workplace. Bob Marshall is the author of several books on organizational psychotherapy. You can link with Bob Marshall on LinkedIn and follow Bob Marshall's blog.

If you find yourself torn between rationality and spirituality, science and mysticism, facts and belief; The Lectern's inaugural 8-week course will offer you a new lens through which to reflect on these dilemmas. Click here to enroll: https://lectern.teachable.com/p/einstein-and-spinoza-s-god1 “What does it really mean to be authentic, and can this virtue be meaningfully understood and measured across psychology and philosophy?” John Vervaeke, Gregg Henriques and Matthew Schaublin embark on a discussion covering the concept of authenticity. The discussion explores authenticity as one of the premier virtues of modernity, comparing it with autonomy, and tracing its roots through romanticism and existentialism, notably discussing Heidgegger and Kierkegaard. Greg introduces psychological perspectives and client-centered therapy influenced by Carl Rogers, while Matthew shares insights from his empirical research on dispositional authenticity carried out at the University of Chattanooga. The trio also touch on the tensions between self-identification and participation, self-alienation, cognitive fluency, and the societal quest for authenticity, proposing a nuanced and dynamic understanding of the true self. Gregg R. Henriques is an American psychologist. He is a professor for the Combined-Integrated Doctoral Program at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Virginia, US. Matthew Schaublin is a master's candidate in psychology at the University of Chattanooga, with a four-year research focus on authenticity. His work blends empirical psychology with philosophical and classical inquiry, investigating how dispositional authenticity is expressed and experienced. —- Notes:  0:00 Introduction to the Lectern 0:45 Exploring the Concept of Authenticity 3:30 Greg's Perspective on Authenticity 5:00 Matthew's Research on Dispositional Authenticity 9:00 Theoretical Foundations of Authenticity 12:30 Philosophical and Clinical Perspectives 24:30 Relational and Psychological Dimensions 36:30 The Evolution of Self-Definition in Modernity 38:00 The Greek Roots of Authenticity 39:30 Modeling Authenticity and Personality 43:15 Rationalization and Authenticity 44:45 Tensions in Authenticity: Identification vs. Participation 49:00 The SAFE Model of Authenticity 55:00 Empirical Studies on Authenticity and Agency 1:06:30 Key Takeaways and Future Directions —-- Connect with a community dedicated to self-discovery and purpose, and gain deeper insights by joining our Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke   The Vervaeke Foundation is committed to advancing the scientific pursuit of wisdom and creating a significant impact on the world. Become a part of our mission. https://vervaekefoundation.org/   Join Awaken to Meaning to explore practices that enhance your virtues and foster deeper connections with reality and relationships. https://awakentomeaning.com/ John Vervaeke:  https://johnvervaeke.com/ https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john  https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke   Gregg Henriques: http://www.gregghenriques.com/ https://x.com/henriqgx   Matthew Shaublin: https://www.instagram.com/matthewschaublin/   Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode Kierkegaard's Concept of Authenticity Heidegger's Use of ‘Authenticity' Maslow's Theory of Self-Actualization Dispositional Authenticity The SAFE Model of Authenticity Alienation and Cognitive Fluency The Ethics of Authenticity by Charles Taylor On the Concept of Irony and The Sickness Unto Death by Søren Kierkegaard Being and Time by Martin Heidegger On Becoming a Person by Carl Rogers Martin Heidegger Charles Taylor Aristotle Jean-Paul Sartre   Quotes:  ”Like, meaning, like rational, authenticity is not just a descriptive term.” -John Vervaeke (2:00)  ”Inauthentic living… Tough, you know.” -Gregg Henriques (28:30)   

Nathalie Renhardt, ancienne cadre dans les salles de marché, est aujourd'hui formatrice en intelligence relationnelle et ambassadrice de la méthode Gordon. J'ai adoré discuter avec Nathalie tant son énergie est communicative mais aussi son expérience est riche.Dans cet épisode, nous parlons de son incroyable parcours, de la finance à l'accompagnement des leaders à travers des compétences de communication clés.Dans cet épisode, j'ai eu le plaisir d'échanger avec Nathalie autour de cette transition de vie spectaculaire. Ce moment de bascule, elle l'a vécu dans un avion, avec sa fille sur les genoux et une prise de conscience fulgurante : il était temps de réorienter sa vie pour retrouver du sens, de la présence, de la connexion.Nous avons parlé en profondeur de la méthode Gordon, qui repose sur deux piliers fondamentaux : l'écoute active et l'affirmation de soi. Nathalie nous explique avec beaucoup de clarté et d'exemples concrets comment cette approche peut révolutionner la façon dont on manage — et plus largement, dont on se relie aux autres, que ce soit au travail ou à la maison. Elle partage notamment comment, en trois jours de formation intensive et 100 % pratique, des leaders prennent conscience de leurs failles dans l'écoute… et découvrent des outils simples mais puissants pour changer.Ce qui est fascinant, c'est que cette méthode, conçue dans les années 60 par Thomas Gordon, élève de Carl Rogers, reste d'une actualité brûlante. Elle touche à quelque chose de fondamental : notre capacité à créer des relations de qualité, à gérer les conflits sans perdant, à exprimer nos besoins sans écraser ceux des autres. Nathalie évoque aussi les 12 obstacles à la communication, souvent inconscients, qui sabotent nos interactions, et propose des pistes concrètes pour les contourner.On a aussi discuté des résistances culturelles, en particulier en France, où exprimer ses émotions peut encore être perçu comme une faiblesse. Et pourtant, comme elle le dit si bien : ce n'est pas parce qu'on ne dit pas une émotion qu'elle n'est pas là.À travers des anecdotes d'entreprise, Nathalie démontre combien un changement de posture — du leader solutionneur au leader ressource — peut transformer en profondeur une organisation, favoriser l'autonomie, l'engagement, et même changer la culture d'une entreprise.J'espère que cet échange vous apportera autant d'inspiration qu'il m'en a donné. Que vous soyez manager, parent, collègue ou simplement humain en relation avec d'autres humains, cet épisode vous donnera des clés précieuses pour mieux écouter, mieux vous affirmer, et cultiver des liens de qualité.Citations marquantes« L'écoute est un des plus beaux cadeaux qu'on puisse faire à quelqu'un. »« Ce n'est pas parce qu'on ne dit pas une émotion qu'elle n'existe pas. »« Il faut être prêt à lâcher sa solution préférée pour résoudre un conflit. »« Avoir raison n'a aucune importance, l'essentiel, c'est d'avoir satisfaction. »« Le leader super-solutionneur épuise son équipe… et lui-même. »Timestamps 00:00 Intro & présentation de Nathalie Renhardt02:00 De la finance à la quête de sens04:30 La découverte de la méthode Gordon06:30 Le programme Leader Effectiveness Training08:00 Qui était Thomas Gordon ?12:00 Les erreurs d'écoute en entreprise15:00 Reconnaitre et exprimer les émotions22:00 Cas concrets de transformation managériale36:00 La résolution de conflit sans perdant45:00 Avoir raison vs avoir satisfaction51:00 Impact culturel et transformation d'entreprise56:00 Intégration au quotidien et leadership transverseDistribué par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

In this episode of the CCPT Purism series, I take you through the foundational role of Virginia Axline in translating Carl Rogers' person-centered theory into what we now know as Child-Centered Play Therapy. Axline worked closely with Rogers and applied his concepts to children by introducing her Eight Principles of Non-Directive Play Therapy—a philosophy describing how we show up and relate to children in session, not a list of techniques or tools. I briefly walk through each of Axline's eight principles, highlight their connections to Rogers' core conditions, and explain how they continue to shape our model today. This episode is a reminder that CCPT isn't something we do—it's a way of being, requiring trust in the child, a release of control, and an unwavering presence. If you practice CCPT, you're not just using Axline's methods—you're carrying on her legacy. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Shame does not regulate—it entangles. At the quantum level, gendered shame functions as Thomas Campbell's “holographic glue,” binding humanity to collapsing wavefunctions of patriarchal domination and Lilith's exiled rage. This essay posits that modern gender wars stem not from biology but from epigenetic karmic loops where shame mutates into Hawkins' Level 20 (Guilt/Shame), enslaving men and women in Carl Rogers' “conditions of worth” while their shadows metastasize as Dark Triad pathologies.

In this episode, I continue the CCPT Purism series with a deep dive into the core tenets and core conditions of Child-Centered Play Therapy. I walk through Rogers' foundational ideas—including the tendency to actualize, self-concept, and the organismic valuing process—and explain how these principles shape our understanding of children and the healing power of the therapeutic relationship. I also break down the three core conditions Rogers identified as necessary for growth: unconditional positive regard, empathy, and congruence. These are not techniques to apply—they are ways of being that must be consistently present in our relationships with children. If we want to be CCPT therapists—not just practice CCPT—we have to embody these principles in everything we do. Finally, I challenge you to consider Rogers' tenets and conditions to reflect on where you are in your own CCPT journey and how to move closer to full alignment with the model. Episode References: Rogers, C. R. (1951). Client-centered therapy: Its current practice, implications and theory. Boston, MA: Houghton Mifflin. Rogers, C. R. (1961). On becoming a person: A therapist's view of psychotherapy. Boston, MA: Houghton Mifflin. Rogers, C. R. (1980). A way of being. Boston, MA: Houghton Mifflin. Kirschenbaum, H., & Henderson, V. L. (Eds.). (1990). The Carl Rogers reader. Boston, MA: Houghton Mifflin. Thorne, B. (2003). Carl Rogers (2nd ed.). London, UK: SAGE Publications. Mearns, D., & Thorne, B. (2007). Person-centred counselling in action (3rd ed.). London, UK: SAGE Publications. Cooper, M., O'Hara, M., Schmid, P. F., & Bohart, A. C. (Eds.). (2013). The handbook of person-centered psychotherapy and counseling (2nd ed.). London, UK: Palgrave Macmillan.   CCPT Training! LIVE, APT-approved Advanced "4-Pillars" CEU Training (Reflecting Feelings, Choice-Giving, Encouragement, Limit-Setting) Series Starting Friday March 28th Through April 11th, 2025 PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

In this episode, I kick off a brand new series: CCPT Purism—a deep dive into what it truly means to be a pure Child-Centered Play Therapist. I've seen a growing trend where therapists think they are practicing CCPT, but in reality, they've drifted from full adherence to the model. This series is about going back to the foundations—understanding where CCPT came from, why it matters, and how to ensure we are practicing in full alignment with its core principles. We start by looking at Carl Rogers and his revolutionary shift from psychoanalytic and behavioral approaches to person-centered therapy. Rogers' belief in self-actualization, client autonomy, and the healing power of the therapeutic relationship paved the way for CCPT. I explore how these core ideas challenged traditional therapy and why our role is not to fix, direct, or control—but to provide a space where healing naturally unfolds. Episode References: Rogers, C. R. (1951). Client-Centered Therapy: Its Current Practice, Implications, and Theory. Boston: Houghton Mifflin. Rogers, C. R. (1961). On Becoming a Person: A Therapist's View of Psychotherapy. Boston: Houghton Mifflin. Rogers, C. R. (1980). A Way of Being. Boston: Houghton Mifflin. Kirschenbaum, H., & Henderson, V. L. (Eds.). (1990). The Carl Rogers Reader. Boston: Houghton Mifflin. Thorne, B. (1992). Carl Rogers (Key Figures in Counselling and Psychotherapy series). London: Sage Publications. Carl Rogers Biography - Person Centred Therapy. (n.d.). Counselling Tutor. Retrieved from https://counsellingtutor.com/biography-of-carl-rogers/ Carl Rogers' Theory. (n.d.). Counselling Tutor. Retrieved from https://counsellingtutor.com/counselling-approaches/person-centred-approach-to-counselling/carl-rogers-theory/ Virginia Association for Play Therapy 2025 Annual Conference March 7-8, 2025 PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

Selvrealisering representerer en grunnstein i humanistisk psykologi, en retning som ser på mennesket som mer enn summen av sine deler eller produkter av sin fortid. Humanister som Abraham Maslow og Carl Rogers fokuserte på menneskets potensial for vekst, behovet for mening, og søken etter selvaktualisering. I denne sammenhengen blir Scott Barry Kaufmans bok, "Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization", et moderne ekko av disse tidlige humanistiske ideene, og utvider dem med nyere forskning og perspektiver. Dagens episode skal reflektere over hvordan konseptet «selvrealisering», belyst gjennom humanistisk psykologi og Kaufmans arbeid, kan tjene som en veiviser for personlig vekst. Vi skal innom de ulike nivåene i det klassiske behovshierarkiet, men også videre opp i kosmisk bevissthet, hva nå det egentlig er for noe. Velkommen skal du være!Maslows Hierarki av BehovMaslows teori om selvrealisering er kanskje best kjent gjennom hans hierarki av behov, en pyramide som begynner med de mest grunnleggende fysiologiske nødvendighetene og bygger opp til toppen av selvrealisering. Maslow hevdet at før et individ kan engasjere seg i selvrealisering, må mer grunnleggende behov som sikkerhet, kjærlighet og tilhørighet, og anerkjennelse tilfredsstilles. Selvrealisering blir sett på som det høyeste uttrykket for menneskelig motivasjon, der en person streber etter å realisere sitt fulle potensial og engasjere seg i meningsfulle og selvutvidende aktiviteter.Kaufmans TransendensScott Barry Kaufman bygger videre på Maslows fundament i sin bok "Transcend". Kaufman foreslår en oppdatert modell av behovshierarkiet som inkluderer en ny topp: transendens. I Kaufmans øyne er selvrealisering ikke sluttmålet, men heller et springbrett mot en tilstand av transendens, der individet streber etter å bidra til noe større enn seg selv. Dette skiftet reflekterer en utvikling i humanistisk psykologi som anerkjenner verdien av fellesskap og tilknytning til noe større, i tillegg til individets interne vekst.Vekst som MenneskeMaslows og Kaufmans arbeid sammen antyder at vekst som menneske ikke er en lineær eller selvsentrert prosess, men snarere en dynamisk utvikling mot å forstå og transcendere egne grenser til fordel for et større hele. Dette perspektivet utfordrer oss til å se utover oss selv og våre umiddelbare behov, og å vurdere hvordan våre handlinger og streben etter selvaktualisering kan bidra til velferden til samfunnet og menneskeheten som helhet.Humanistisk Psykologi som VeiviserHumanistisk psykologi, med sitt fokus på menneskets potensial for vekst og behovet for mening, tilbyr et kraftfullt rammeverk for personlig utvikling. Det understreker viktigheten av selvrefleksjon, ærlighet med seg selv, og en åpenhet for endring. Ved å anerkjenne våre iboende styrker og svakheter, kan vi bedre navigere i livets utfordringer og muligheter for vekst.Implementering i Daglig LivFor å vokse som menneske i lys av disse ideene, kan vi begynne med å kultivere en dypere selvforståelse og bevissthet om våre egne behov og ønsker. Praktisering av mindfulness og selvrefleksjon kan hjelpe oss med å identifisere våre dypere formål og verdier. Videre kan engasjement i kreative og meningsfulle aktiviteter bidra til vår følelse av selvrealisering og til slutt lede oss mot transendens.KonklusjonSelvrealisering, som sett gjennom linsen av humanistisk psykologi og utvidet av Scott Barry Kaufman, tilbyr en rik og flerdimensjonal tilnærming til personlig vekst. Ved å anerkjenne både vårt behov for selvaktualisering og vårt potensial for å transcendere disse personlige ambisjonene til fordel for et større fellesskap, tilbyr humanistisk psykologi en veiviser for de som søker å utvide sin forståelse av seg selv og sin plass i verden. Få tilgang til ALT ekstramateriale som medlem på SinnSyns Mentale Helsestudio via SinnSyn-appen her: https://www.webpsykologen.no/et-mentalt-helsestudio-i-lomma/ eller som Patreon-Medlem her: https://www.patreon.com/sinnsyn. For reklamefri pod og bonus-episoder kan du bli SinnSyn Pluss abonnent her https://plus.acast.com/s/sinnsyn. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Navigating the new unknown, anyone? In this episode, we welcome Chetna Lawless, a modern day mystic, healer, and shaman. Having embraced her intuitive gifts since childhood, Chetna discusses the importance of meditation in accessing intuitive abilities and details her journey through various cultural experiences, including Japan, which profoundly affected her meditative practices. We delve into the relationship between meditation, shamanic work, and personal transformation, offering practical advice for those starting their meditation journey. Chetna emphasizes the role of stillness, the transformative potential of personal inquiry, and how meditation helps in navigating life's chaos. She also shares insights on spiritual growth, manifestation, and the importance of tuning into one's inner voice and intuitive self.About Chetna:WebsiteReach out to Chetna hereResources discussed in this episode:Who is Sandra Ingerman?What is Shamanism?What is Japanese Shinto Religion?Osho's Kundalini MeditationWho is Carl Rogers?Who is Hank Wesselman?Ways to connect with Masako:Let's meditate together on InsightTimer!Why not meditate? FB Groupwhynotmeditate.podcast IGmasakozawa_coaching IGWebsiteSupport the show

How to Stop Self-Sabotage & Reclaim Your Power when Your Partner Won't Change -with Dr. Ray Doktor In this episode, Lora Cheadle welcomes Dr. Ray Doktor, a life and relationship coach, to explore the deep emotional work required to heal from betrayal. Together, they unpack why men often struggle to express emotions, how women can stop waiting for a partner's “potential,” and the self-sabotaging patterns that keep people stuck. Top 3 Takeaways: Healing Starts with You – Infidelity shakes your sense of self, but recovery begins by turning inward and rebuilding your relationship with yourself. Wishful Thinking vs. Reality – Many women hold onto their partner's “potential,” but true healing comes from accepting who they really are, not who you wish they could be. Men and Emotional Avoidance – Many men avoid deep emotional work, opting for quick-fix pleasure (cheating, drinking, distractions) over true healing. A thriving relationship requires both partners to grow together. Bio: Ray Doktor, Psy. D. works as a modern day relationship & rapid breakthrough coach. For the last 25 years, he's successfully helped over 6k clients breakthrough limited beliefs and challenges to have better relationships, improved family life, and more success! A pioneer in the field of bridging psychology and Eastern philosophies to technologies, science, and spirituality, Dr. Ray has conducted workshops in the United States, Netherlands, Brazil, and England. He shared the same stages with Marianne Williamson, Bruce Lipton, John Gray, and Eckhart Tolle. Dr. Ray received his doctoral degree in clinical psychology, earned a master's degree in counseling psychology, and an undergraduate degree in human behavior. Other advanced training includes: hypnotherapy, Gestalt therapy, guided imagery, Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), qigong, PSYCH-K, meditation, sound healing, and somatic experience. His most profound mentorship involved traveling the world and assisting renowned psychologist Dr. Morris Netherton–a pioneer in his field and colleague of Fritz Perls, Carl Rogers, and Norm Shealy. And yes, his real last name is Doktor. Everyone gets a laugh about it, so he is used to it. Ready to heal your body and mind after betrayal? Download your free Betrayal Recovery Toolkit at BetrayalRecoveryGuide.com and book a complimentary 30-minute consultation with Lora today! Special Announcement! Don't miss Lora Cheadle's new book, "It's Not Burnout, It's Betrayal: 5 Tools to FUEL UP & Thrive," This essential guide differentiates between burnout and betrayal, offering five transformative steps to recovery. Available on Amazon. www.itsnotburnoutitsbetrayal.com Get your free downloadable guide on the “The Top Three Ways You Betray Yourself Every Day, and How to Stop” at www.burnoutorbetrayal.com. If you're ready to Rise Up & Reign as the creator and queen of your life, let's talk. I will walk by your side and give you the perspective, permission, and wisdom needed to turn your betrayal experience into something constructive, empowering, and transformative in all the right ways.  Learn more at www.loracheadle.com and follow me across all social! Download your Sparkle After Betrayal Recovery Guide at www.BetrayalRecoveryGuide.com, a guide designed to help you take the first steps in feeling better, so you can reclaim your power, own your worth, and start putting yourself, and your life, back together again. About Lora: Lora Cheadle is a betrayal recovery coach, attorney, and TEDx speaker who helps women heal from betrayal on an energetic, emotional, and ancestral level—while also providing legal guidance to help them navigate the practical complexities of infidelity and relationship transitions. She empowers women to rise from the ashes, reclaim their identity and self-worth, break free from repeating patterns, and step into their power with confidence, clarity, and grace. After being shattered by her husband's fifteen years of infidelity, Lora knows firsthand what it takes to transform devastation into an invitation for healing, freedom, and joy. Her unique approach blends deep emotional healing with tangible legal and life strategies, guiding women beyond betrayal into lives of unapologetic confidence and purpose. As the founder of Life Choreography Coaching & Advocacy, Lora provides comprehensive legal, emotional, intellectual, and spiritual support on demand. She believes that infidelity doesn't have to be the end of the dream you poured your heart and soul into—it can be the beginning of a life filled with sovereignty, connection, and joy. Licensed to practice law in California and Colorado, Lora is also a trauma-aware coach, clinical hypnotherapist, somatic attachment therapist, and advanced integrated energy practitioner. She is certified in yoga, mindfulness, group fitness, and personal training, bringing a holistic perspective to healing. She is the author of FLAUNT! Drop Your Cover and Reveal Your Smart, Sexy, & Spiritual Self (an International Book Awards Finalist and Tattered Cover Bestseller) and It's Not Burnout, It's Betrayal: 5 Tools to FUEL UP & Thrive. She also hosts the podcast FLAUNT! Create a Life You Love After Infidelity and Betrayal. Based in Colorado, Lora is an adventure-seeker who loves travel, a great book, and saying yes to life's magic. Get the support you need to find your footing, begin making sense of it all, and feel better fast. As an attorney, betrayal recovery expert, and survivor of infidelity I can help you find the clarity and confidence to create a life that you love on the other side of betrayal. Book Your Session Here: https://calendly.com/loras-schedule/coaching-session Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this podcast! Take charge of your mental health and get 10% off your first month of therapy at https://BetterHelp.com/FLAUNT  READY TO START A BETTER CHAPTER?  Step into the future you've always dreamed of with the power of transformative rituals with the Mindful Subscription Box. Get a monthly box full of crystals, aromatherapy, and other spiritual tools worth $120. You deserve high-quality gems, crystals, oils, and mindfulness tools for self-care that truly work. It's a monthly dose of self-love delivered right to your door! Go to www.Mindfulsouls.com  and use Discount Code LORA25 for 25% off your order!

En Ivoox puedes encontrar sólo algunos de los audios de Mindalia. Para escuchar las 4 grabaciones diarias que publicamos entra en https://www.mindaliatelevision.com. Si deseas ver el vídeo perteneciente a este audio, pincha aquí: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgETDCsMBzA&t=27s A menudo las personas con relaciones tormentosas creen que tienen mala suerte o culpan al otro de todos sus fracasos. Es necesario entender que, nuestras relaciones de pareja, son un reflejo de heridas inconscientes que están en nosotros y que condicionan nuestras elecciones. Para dejar de sufrir con tus relaciones es necesario que el cambio empiece en ti. Berta Fernández Licenciada en Filosofía, con formación en Terapia Gestalt y terapia Sistémica Familiar. Especialista en Psicoterapia Centrada en la persona de Carl Rogers. https://bertafernandez.com/ / berta.relacionesdespiertas https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?... #RelacionesDePareja #CrecimientoPersonal #DesarrolloPersonal Más información en: https://www.mindalia.com/television/ PARTICIPA CON TUS COMENTARIOS EN ESTE VÍDEO. -----------INFORMACIÓN SOBRE MINDALIA--------- Mindalia.com es una ONG internacional, sin ánimo de lucro, que difunde universalmente contenidos sobre espiritualidad y bienestar para la mejora de la consciencia del mundo. Apóyanos con tu donación en: https://www.mindalia.com/donar/ Suscríbete, comenta positivamente y comparte nuestros vídeos para difundir este conocimiento a miles de personas. Nuestro sitio web: https://www.mindalia.com SÍGUENOS TAMBIÉN EN NUESTRAS PLATAFORMAS Facebook: / mindalia.ayuda Instagram: / mindalia_com Twitch: / mindaliacom Odysee: https://odysee.com/@Mindalia.com *Mindalia.com no se hace responsable de las opiniones vertidas en este vídeo, ni necesariamente participa de ellas.

En Ivoox puedes encontrar sólo algunos de los audios de Mindalia. Para escuchar las 4 grabaciones diarias que publicamos entra en https://www.mindaliatelevision.com. Si deseas ver el vídeo perteneciente a este audio, pincha aquí: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgETDCsMBzA&t=27s A menudo las personas con relaciones tormentosas creen que tienen mala suerte o culpan al otro de todos sus fracasos. Es necesario entender que, nuestras relaciones de pareja, son un reflejo de heridas inconscientes que están en nosotros y que condicionan nuestras elecciones. Para dejar de sufrir con tus relaciones es necesario que el cambio empiece en ti. Berta Fernández Licenciada en Filosofía, con formación en Terapia Gestalt y terapia Sistémica Familiar. Especialista en Psicoterapia Centrada en la persona de Carl Rogers. https://bertafernandez.com/ / berta.relacionesdespiertas https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?... #RelacionesDePareja #CrecimientoPersonal #DesarrolloPersonal Más información en: https://www.mindalia.com/television/ PARTICIPA CON TUS COMENTARIOS EN ESTE VÍDEO. -----------INFORMACIÓN SOBRE MINDALIA--------- Mindalia.com es una ONG internacional, sin ánimo de lucro, que difunde universalmente contenidos sobre espiritualidad y bienestar para la mejora de la consciencia del mundo. Apóyanos con tu donación en: https://www.mindalia.com/donar/ Suscríbete, comenta positivamente y comparte nuestros vídeos para difundir este conocimiento a miles de personas. Nuestro sitio web: https://www.mindalia.com SÍGUENOS TAMBIÉN EN NUESTRAS PLATAFORMAS Facebook: / mindalia.ayuda Instagram: / mindalia_com Twitch: / mindaliacom Odysee: https://odysee.com/@Mindalia.com *Mindalia.com no se hace responsable de las opiniones vertidas en este vídeo, ni necesariamente participa de ellas.

Carl Rogers psicología humanista terapia centrada en la persona empatía aceptación incondicional crecimiento personal autenticidad terapia no directiva desarrollo humano autodescubrimiento psicoterapia relación terapéutica salud mental autocomprensión autoaceptación cambio personal desarrollo emocional bienestar psicológico terapia humanista Rogers psicología moderna psicoterapia centrada en el cliente conexión humana autotransformación acompañamiento terapéutico

uuuund da ist auch schon die nächste Folge - 2 an einem Tag, ein neuer Rekord haha anyway - das neue Programm hat jetzt einen englischen Text für die Folge rausgegeben, vielleicht möchte ja jemand nicht nur sein Fachwissen erweitern, sondern auch seine sprachlichen Kenntnisse herausfordern ;) nächstes Mal kommen wir dann auch schon zu den Entwicklungsaufgaben von Jugendlichen und jungen Heranwachsenden, was für mich persönlich einer meiner Lieblingsthemen ist, da es nicht nur um stumpfe Theorien geht, sondern endlich mal ans Eingemachte :D

guess who's back!dieses mal eine Ausgabe der etwas anderen Artich mache mir einen eigenen Lernpodcast über den Stoff, den ich für die Prüfung wissen mussalso an alle zukünftigen Erzieher*innen, vielleicht ist diese erste Folge etwas für euch!die nächsten Tage folgen noch weitere Episoden mit anderen Themen, wie Carl Rogers, Handlungsmöglichkeiten für ERZ bei Kindern und Jugendlichen mit z.B. Autismus oder auch Medien- und Gesundheitserziehungfalls euch diese Sachen weniger interessieren, schaut ein anderes Mal wieder rein; ich melde mich, wenn die Prüfung vorbei ist! :)

(0:00) Intro(1:35) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:21) Start of interview(3:00) Jonathan's origin story(5:10) His start in journalism(7:05) Founding Monitor Canada with Roger Martin (1987)(9:43) Transitioning to Deloitte Monitor (2013) (12:18) About Deloitte Canada's Podium Club for Directors that he leads.(13:38) How Trump's tariffs may impact Canada (note: this podcast was recorded on 1/24, before tariffs went into place)(17:57) What is strategy? "I think of strategy as choice"(20:20) The role of the board in strategy. "The best CEOs seek advice from their boards, not a grade"(25:39) The questions board members ask matter. "The question is the asset" "Ask questions and question the answers" (30:40) Rethinking Board Information Approaches *Reference to Netflix board case study(33:30) Embracing Uncertainty and Risk(37:55) Private vs. Public Strategy Dynamics(42:10) The Role of Culture and Talent in Strategy (scope of company founders)(46:55) Key Strategic Priorities for Directors (beyond idiosyncrasies of each company): 1) Geopolitics; 2) Technological Shifts (AI, Cyber, etc); and 3) Talent (Workforce and People).(53:10) Books that have greatly influenced his life:Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand (1957)The Final Days by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein (1976)On Becoming a Person by Carl Rogers (1961)(55:58) His mentors.(56:41) Quotes that he thinks of often or lives his life by. Jonathan Goodman is a vice Chair and member of the board of Deloitte Canada, where he leads the firm's CEO and Boardroom programs, including Deloitte Canada's Podium Club for Directors.  He is also Global Chair and former global Managing Partner of Monitor Deloitte. You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

Greg and Anna McKeown discuss the art of listening, exploring its transformative power in relationships. They discuss a pivotal moment from their dating history where effective listening shifted their connection and emphasized how empathic communication fosters understanding. Drawing insights from Carl Rogers' listening techniques, they share personal anecdotes about applying these principles in family dynamics and their marriage. Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

Psychological safety is a crucial but often misunderstood concept in modern organizations. In this episode, Andrew and Mark take a deep dive into its origins, how it became a foundational principle of high-performing teams, and why "safe to challenge" can sometimes backfire if implemented poorly.We explore the history, research, and practical applications of psychological safety, from its early roots in therapeutic psychology to Amy Edmondson's groundbreaking research in the 1990s, to its popularization by Google's Project Aristotle. Along the way, we discuss common misconceptions, the role of leadership, and how organizations can create a culture where people feel safe to challenge ideas without fear of repercussions.In this episode, we talk about:What is Psychological Safety? – A definition of psychological safety and why it matters for team performance.The Origins of Psychological Safety – How early research by Carl Rogers, Edgar Schein, and Warren Bennis laid the groundwork for modern team dynamics.Amy Edmondson's Breakthrough – How her 1996 study of nursing teams revealed that psychologically safe teams report more mistakes—not because they make more, but because they feel safe admitting them.Google's Project Aristotle – How Google's research found psychological safety to be the #1 factor in team success, and how it fits alongside dependability, clarity, meaning, and impact.The Challenge with "Safe to Challenge" – Why focusing on challenging authority without first fostering psychological safety can create a toxic environment instead of a productive one.Leadership's Role in Psychological Safety – Why leaders must model fallibility, vulnerability, and openness to feedback to create a climate where others feel safe to speak up.Avoiding Common Misconceptions – The pitfalls of treating psychological safety as a shield against performance expectations, a license to criticize without accountability, or a box to check off rather than a culture to build.Practical Tips for Leaders & Teams – How to cultivate psychological safety in your workplace, from building familiarity and social bonds to creating low-risk "practice fields" for feedback and challenge.This episode is packed with history, research, and actionable insights to help leaders and teams build a culture where challenge leads to innovation, not fear.

On this week's Keepin It Real, Cam reacts to a text from a friend about the hopelessness she feels today as a result of the new presidential administration. There are two sides to this, Cam says. And the healing must begin within. But it won't be easy. ----- There are those of you listening right now filled with anxiety and rage. You can't believe our nation is full of people who care so little for truth, honesty, and compassion. You can't believe that you know people, lots of people, who are willing to abandon truth, honesty, and compassion to win. This is not how you were taught to live as a child. These are not the lessons of Aesop's fables. There is nothing in the New Testament that says this is Ok. However, there are others of you out there equally mystified. “How can you not want this?” you're asking. How can you not see that our future, both each of us individually and as a nation, will be better? We're returning to dominance. We're getting rid of the cheaters and the thieves who have slipped in and are stealing opportunity from you and me. We're making them pay. We're righting wrongs. This is what this nation is about. This is who we are. We've strayed and we're now, finally, returning to who we should be. How can you not see this? No argument from either of you will win. No data will convince either of you of anything. No clever wording. No quoting the constitution. No biblical chapter or verse. Deadlocked. Both sides deadlocked. Anxiety and rage. Both sides. Dr Carl Rogers was an American Psychologist who, in 1982, was listed as the most influential psychotherapist in history. Of his many accomplishments, there is one practice of his that I'm using – well, that I'm trying to use – in my interactions with others. It's called Unconditional Positive Regard. It's a framework for listening and helping even with those whose opinions are diametrically opposite our own. It's a learned discipline and it's not easy. Unconditional Positive Regard assumes that this person in front of each of us has worth, this person in front of us can grow, they can change, they're eager to learn, they're curious, they are a person of value. Unconditional Positive Regard. You can see how this powerful outlook can benefit a therapist in their interactions with patients. You can see how someone hoping to pull the best out of another person, who still has hope for the other person, could and perhaps SHOULD engage them with a mindset of unconditional positive regard. It's hard, though. It's very hard. Especially when what some of you have seen of others brings this quote to mind: “When you worship power, compassion and mercy will look like sins.” To many of you that's what it looks like out there today. It's obvious to say, but compassion is not a sin. Mercy is not a sin. None of us should ever hold back on either. And perhaps for all of you listening right now filled with anxiety and rage, holding each other in unconditional positive regard might be step one in healing…ourselves. I'm Cam Marston, just trying to keep it real.

In this episode, Adam Barfoot, M.Ed., LPC-MHSP, discusses the concept from Stoic philosophy of The Inner Citadel, perseverance, choosing to remain calm in challenging situations, remembering your strength, focusing on what you can control, asking yourself to be strong, how strength is proved through adversity, seeking progress daily, approaching difficulty rather than avoiding it, how fear only wins if we let it win, and the value of choosing courage over fear. Adam's website: https://www.adambarfoottherapy.com/ This episode is Part Three in a series on the Counseling and Functional Fitness podcast focusing on Stoic philosophy, therapy, and fitness. Books mentioned in this episode: Resilience by Eric Greitens, A Way of Being by Carl Rogers, The Count of Monte Christo by Alexandre Dumas, Mastery by Robert Greene, Man's Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl Email: counselingandfunctionalfitness@gmail.com

Who is Kim?Kim Morgan is a dynamic individual driven by a profound desire to facilitate change in people's lives. Through introspection and thoughtful inquiry, she discovered a unifying theme among those she engages with: a shared aspiration to transform aspects of their lives, careers, and relationships. Kim is passionate about helping others break free from repetitive patterns and Groundhog Day scenarios that hinder personal growth. Whether it's boosting confidence, altering behaviors, or achieving health and well-being goals, Kim is committed to empowering individuals to make meaningful, lasting changes. Her insightful approach inspires others to break the cycle and embrace a renewed sense of self as they strive for improvement.Key Takeaways05:33 Insightful analysis of targeting business offerings effectively.09:08 Unintended consequences complicate scientific research processes.12:50 Self-consistency theory explains resisting personal change.17:22 Discussed reluctance to chase clients for payment.20:18 Choose between unchanged future or transformation chair.23:00 Properly planning takes time, also benefits business.24:50 Visualize failure to prevent project mistakes._________________________________________________________________________________________________Subscribe to our newsletter and get details of when we are doing these interviews live at https://TCA.fyi/newsletterFind out more about being a guest at : link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/beaguestSubscribe to the podcast at https://link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/podcastHelp us get this podcast in front of as many people as possible. Leave a nice five-star review at apple podcasts : https://link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/apple-podcasts and on YouTube : https://link.thecompleteapproach.co.uk/Itsnotrocketscienceatyt!Here's how you can bring your business to THE next level:If you are a business owner currently turning over £/$10K - £/$50K per month and want to grow to £/$100K - £/$500k per month download my free resource on everything you need to grow your business on a single page :It's a detailed breakdown of how you can grow your business to 7-figures in a smart and sustainable wayhttps://scientificvaluebuildingmachine.online/————————————————————————————————————————————-TranscriptNote, this was transcribed using a transcription software and may not reflect the exact words used in the podcast)SUMMARY KEYWORDSKim Morgan, coaching journey, personal development, NLP, Freudian psychotherapy, Carl Rogers, humanistic therapy, coaching course, Nancy Cline, Time to Think, active listening, team communication, family estrangement, research, podcast, Stuart Webb, It's Not Rocket Science, client transformation, CEO coaching, relationship change, confidence building, behavior patterns, mindset shift, technical difficulties, payment reluctance, leadership style, vision chairs exercise, premortem technique, business planning, neurobiological patterns.SPEAKERSKim Morgan, Stuart WebbStuart Webb [00:00:31]:Hi, and welcome back to It's Not Rocket Science 5 questions over coffee. I better not show you the logo on this particular mug it's advertising. Kim, have you got something refreshing in front of me or isKim Morgan [00:00:43]:it just I'm sorry. I forgot it was meant to be coffee.Stuart Webb [00:00:48]:Oh, wellKim Morgan [00:00:48]:water. It's 5 questions over water.Stuart Webb [00:00:52]:It's 5 questions over water or any other drink, gin, is also acceptable, I'm sure. But anyway, I'm really delighted to be today in front of Kim Morgan. Kim is an exceptional, coach. She has over 25 years of experience in working in coaching, and and she believes that, that her using the coaching methods that she's been working, she's she's worked with CEOs. We've worked with parents. She's worked with families, and she believes in the power of coaching. It has a unique, insight into coaching. So, Kim, I'm really delighted to to be here in front of you today talking to you about this.Stuart Webb [00:01:28]:So thank you for make making a few minutes to come onto It's Not Rocket Science, 5 questions over whatever drink you have in front of you.Kim Morgan [00:01:37]:Thank you, Stuart. I'm thrilled to be here. We made it after a coupleStuart Webb [00:01:42]:of boardKim Morgan [00:01:42]:starts, didn't we?Stuart Webb [00:01:43]:We did. We did. Pim, let's start with let's start with that coaching. Let's start with, who it is you're trying to help. We've mentioned CEOs. We've mentioned families. We've mentioned parents. You know, what is the sort of the the thing that that brings those people? What's the the problem they have, the the issue that they have that that you are looking to help them to to resolve?Kim Morgan [00:02:08]:Do you know, Stuart, this is such a good question. Yeah. I, yeah, I had advanced warning of this question, and and it just threw me actually because I immediately went to you're right. We provide coaching in so many contexts. We provide it in house. We provide it to individuals. We we teach coaches how to coach. So I was like, well, there isn't a client.Kim Morgan [00:02:33]:But it was just a really good business question because it forced me to think, yeah, what do they all have in common? What do they all share that brings us? So so thank you for that. It was it was really helpful. So I I came to the conclusion that it is they all want to make a change. But, you know, it's it's as general as that, but they all want to make a change which will improve their lives, their career, their relationships, how they feel about themselves. And those changes include, you know, anything you could think of, but confidence changed their behaviors, their repeating patterns, those things that go, oh, here I I am again. You know? It's Groundhog Day. I thought I sorted this, but I'm back again in this familiar place. Might be health, well-being, that sense of, you know, every new year, we write those resolutions that we aren't gonna walk 10,000 steps a day, and then it's the 31st December and we haven't.Kim Morgan [00:03:39]:So, finances, levels of assertiveness, their leadership style, how they manage, their business performance. It can be anything, but they want to change it for the better. That's what Kim,Stuart Webb [00:03:52]:I love that.Kim Morgan [00:03:53]:Unifies all of them.Stuart Webb [00:03:55]:I'm so glad you've done that. Thank you. I'm so glad you were able to clarify it.Stuart Webb [00:05:33]:I'm delighted you can hear me again. Let me just go back to what you're saying, Kim, because I think it's brilliant insight. And it's one of those things that I I spent I spent a lot of my time with business owners who who tell me they can they can work with anybody or they tell me their their product is absolutely, appropriate for everyone. And they don't do what you've just done, which is actually truly drill down and think of the one thing that they're trying to do to understand exactly therefore how they can make their pitch, make their service or product really, appropriate for the person they're trying to fit people. Yeah. And so glad that you you were able to show how effective a question that one was by actually sort of doing that analysis.Kim Morgan [00:06:20]:So thank you. I'm nothing if not obedient. I take questions very seriously.Stuart Webb [00:06:27]:I like that very much. Okay, Kim. So let's get back on track. You've done a great job of of identifying what it is that who it is that you're trying to to talk to. So let me just understand now. You've got this this this person. What is it they've tried to do, before coming to an expert like you to try to, understand what it is that you can do to help them?Kim Morgan [00:06:52]:So I think they've tried to change. I think they've tried all the usual things. You know, maybe they've bought a self help book or a business book. Maybe they've been on some training courses. Maybe they've just set themselves some goals and bought a journal, and and I'm not knocking any of those things. Those things are all valuable things to do in the process. But I think what they don't know is just how complex and sophisticated and challenging making real lasting change particularly to our very ingrained sort of beliefs and behaviors can be. And I I think most people kind of assume that if we decide to make a change, we follow the required steps, and the change will follow.Kim Morgan [00:07:50]:But you know what we know, and this is where I think coaches really come in, and certainly, I hope most coaches operate in this way. I know barefoot coaches do because this is what we really sort of major on, a deep understanding of how change happens and how it doesn't happen. So the factors that bring about change and also the complexity of our kind of neurobiological, psychological, familial, physical, historical patterns of behavior that just become entrenched. And despite the best of intentions, like I said before, we just, like, find ourselves reverting in, like, simp you know, in the most simplest ways, trying to brush our teeth with the other hands is almost impossible. So think about trying to completely change your leadership style from, like, very people pleasing to slightly more authoritative or vice versa. It's really hard to do without knowing everything you need to do to be able to do it. So that I think that's where we come in.Stuart Webb [00:09:08]:And I think that's a really great summary of what some most people find themselves in because, you know, the the the problem that we all face, of course, is as you've said. You know, I look back at my history, my history as a a scientist. When I think about some of the experiments that I was trying to do when I was still a simple simple scientist working my way through the the various bits of the the cell that I was working on and the the interactions, you can never see quite what the unintended consequences of certain actions are, can you? No. You you make one simple change and it was the basis of sort of scientific research. You make a change and you go, well, I didn't expect that. That's just completely, completely blown me. And now I've got to think of a reason why that's happened then, test whether that's going to happen again. And that's quite a complicated thing when you're dealing with just, you know, what I was dealing with, which was simple bits of cells and DNA and viruses.Stuart Webb [00:10:02]:But Yeah. But you're dealing with an entire human being and the way that they interact internally and with the whole of the world.Kim Morgan [00:10:08]:Yeah. And it it's really huge. You've just made me remember a client years ago who had, a strong regional accent, and this was a long time ago back in the day when organisations used to say, if you want to get on around here, young man, you're gonna have to get some elocution lessons. So he did. He trotted off to get some elocution lessons and gradually sort of practiced and came home, to his family and started speaking in a really plummy voice. But, actually, they all fell about laughing. They didn't support it at all. None of his friends did.Kim Morgan [00:10:48]:A simple example like that, made him just give up because he didn't want his family treating him in that way. You know, even something that was quite easy to change, there are external forces that oppose it, but there are also so many internal forces. As a scientist, you probably know the term homeostasis, do you? I do. Which you can probably explain it better than I can, but it's been adopted by coaching, which is any kind of systems' tendency to revert to a set state. So is that about right?Stuart Webb [00:11:31]:That's about right. That's about right.Kim Morgan [00:11:33]:Thank you. So my best example is our temperature. Whether it is boiling hot outside or in the Arctic, our body will be looking to maintain our temperature at at, you know, that, ideal temperature. And exactly the same happens with our behaviors. In spite of all the kind of actions that we do, we will find ourselves reverting to what's familiar. And I've worked as a therapist. I've worked with families. I've worked with families where there have been year long kind of interventions to stop the patterns of behaviors in the families where they all have their role, you know, the placator, the the kind of aggressor, the person who just sits there and doesn't participate in it all.Kim Morgan [00:12:25]:Lots of work. Lots of times after all that intervention, they go home and almost as if by magic, they slot back into those places that are so familiar. So this is what we're battling against, really. It's often also called self consistency theory. And if I can just, like, share a few more examples fromStuart Webb [00:12:49]:research Please do.Kim Morgan [00:12:50]:Research from self consistency theory. There's there, are, you know, there are lots of studies of people who've won the lottery. Not all of them do this, but there's a real been a real tendency for people who've come into lots of money to suddenly, you know, go about losing it, almost unconsciously wanting to get back to what they know, the world that they know. I there was a study out recently about, weight loss in, weight loss programs, and there's a 97% recidivism rate. So after doing all that, 97% of people go back to where they once were, and some and some even put on a bit more weight than that too. Couples and family therapy, you know, the same thing. I've already mentioned it. So so this is what we're battling against, and that's why even if you're trying to make a change, you you just don't know that all this stuff is going on inside you, and a coach will be able to help you.Kim Morgan [00:13:55]:I I often say that a coach when people say, how do you describe coaching? There's lots of there's lots of sort of, you know, fairly dry, explanations of coaching. But the one that I landed on years ago was, like, being a business book or a self development book that's come to life that actually holds your feet to the fire. That tells you, you know, and makes you do those exercises.Stuart Webb [00:14:22]:Yes. And it's so important, isn't it? And you you talk about weight loss. I mean, it there are so many factors which actually begin to sort of play into that space. You you know, there's evidence that it's not only your psychology, but your body. There are so many things which are fighting against you making that progress. So you you can you you need to you need to have some some way of reflecting on that. You need to have somebody who's helping you to see the unseen. There's a concept that you'll probably know but far better than me, the Johari window, which is where you don't see your own behaviors unless somebody actually sort of points them at you because they're hidden to you.Stuart Webb [00:15:00]:And and and it's that where I think so often there's people who are sort of saying, well, don't worry about we we can get through, but we don't actually see, the the the sort of the thing the impacts we have. And I was saying about, you know, the unintended consequences. So much of what we do have these unintended consequences that we don't even notice, and we do need somebody to help us find them. We do need help somebody to help us work back towards how those, impact upon not only yourself, but on the people that you're hoping to affect.Kim Morgan [00:15:28]:Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. And, you know, these play out too. I I was thinking about coming on to this, podcast today. I was thinking about something that's happened really recently in my own business, actually. Because I would say that, generally, we at, therefore, are people pleasers. We have really strong people pleasing traits.Kim Morgan [00:15:52]:I guess that's why we got into this business. We wanna make people feel better, and we want people to feel good. And that has tremendous advantages in our business because, you know, we build rapport and empathy easily, I hope. But it has downsides too. And this week, the downside really hit me because our, accountant sent me the usual kind of monthly management accounts. And I and for the first time, I really looked at our accounts payable, and our accounts receivables. And I've noticed that we pay people really quickly, and we get paid really slowly. And and and that's not you know, that that's a great example.Kim Morgan [00:16:43]:That's really nothing to do with knowing about accounting because we do. Our own sort of desire to kind of put other people's needs before ours is even showing itself in that way. And and and in addition to that, I noticed that my accountant had mentioned that, you know, quite a few people have owed us money, and she'd said, I I've given them a gentle nudge. And I thought, gentle nudge? Isn't that telling that here we are, our sort of beliefs and behaviors manifesting themselves even in that organizational context?Stuart Webb [00:17:22]:Kim Kim Kim, you you've you've hit up on a you've hit up on a spot that we could spend the rest of this this this week discussing, but I had a discussion with a client recently who turned around to me and said, almost exactly what you've said, which is one of those, oh, I do hate chasing people for money. And I said, would you prefer to just put a note at the bottom of your invoice with keep your money, I don't really want it. And they went, oh, good grief. No. I don't mean that. And I said, you've just told me that's exactly what you've said. You basically said you don't chase them. You would prefer to let them keep the invoice and just not pay it.Stuart Webb [00:17:55]:And and I have to ask the question, where would your business do if everybody did that? And they looked at me as if to say, well, you're just being silly now. But it's exactly what people do, isn't it? They they turn around and go, I've given you my time. I've given you my skills. I've given you my expertise, but I don't really want to charge you for it because that feels dirty. Yeah. I it's nice. Somehow that money is dirty.Kim Morgan [00:18:16]:Yeah. It's really rife, particularly in the sort of helping professions. But but that point that point is really valid for what we're talking about here in terms of, you know, just changing a behavior, doing some training, or reading a book about how to run a business isn't enough unless unless you have somebody help you examine the beliefs and the patterns that are driving your behaviors. And that's where the challenge really happens.Stuart Webb [00:18:48]:Let's turn, I hope, to the thing where we can give some people some, some some free advice. Now, I've put on here a a link to your your podcast and webinars where I believe you've got some fantastic free webinars. That's on barefootcoaching.co.ukforward/podcasthyphen and hyphen webinars. But I believe you've got other giveaways that you are keen to sort of talk to people about. So tell us about the exercise that you are hoping to walk people through.Kim Morgan [00:19:20]:Great. Thank you. So first of all, I'm gonna talk you through this exercise as as sort of carefully and as quickly as I can given the time limitations. But if you want to contactStuart Webb [00:19:33]:I will I will cut I will cut you off when eventually I get bored of listening to you. So I'll try and wrap it up by, try and wrap it up within an hour.Kim Morgan [00:19:42]:Alright. I'll do the same. But, yeah, if people want me to send them the instructions for this, kim@barefootcoaching.co.uk. Well, just write to me. I'll I'll send you a free sort of download of how to do this. But this is one exercise that you can use for yourselves, you can use for others that just really, really works and then and sort of engages you with the consequences of your everyday decisions and behaviors. We call it vision chairs. It's as simple as this.Kim Morgan [00:20:18]:You put I like to put 2 actual chairs in front of myself at some distance away. 2 chairs, and you have in your mind the change that you'd like to make. And you, determine which of those chairs represents a chair of no change. A chair where in 3 or 5 years' time, actually, you never got around to it and things are just as they are today, or a chair of change. The chair that says, I did it. I'm somewhere else. I'm do I'm behaving differently. And you simply look, you know, you first of all, you look at that future chair in 3 years' time where there's no change, and you see what you see.Kim Morgan [00:21:04]:You notice what you notice. Very often, you know, some people go, that'd be okay. You know, I'm fine. But very often, people will go, actually, it hasn't stayed the same. It's got worse. It's got worse because I haven't done anything about my fitness, and therefore, it wouldn't stay the same. If I want to be really kind of brutally challenging to people, I'll keep putting another chair behind that one and another chair behind that one. So, okay, let's look at 10 years' time what the impact will be.Kim Morgan [00:21:35]:I I want to say I've used this really successfully with, sort of things like smoking cessation, and I've also used it highly successfully when working with police forces who wanted women victims of domestic abuse to actually go to court. Because it's challenge it can be challenging in those situations to see where I might be if I don't do anything. But, you know, coaching is about empathetic provocation. It's about ruthless compassion. It's no good going, oh, you're doing really well. It's sometimes we have to, like, show people where their behaviors might take them. So do that. You know, whatever it is, you might go, you know what? It doesn't matter that much or actually, I don't wanna be there.Kim Morgan [00:22:22]:Then come back, look at the other chair, the chair of where you want to be. Not exactly sort of, you know, a a chair of dreams, but a a chair of what could be really possible. See what's different about that future you, go and sit in it, and talk back to yourself today about the steps that you took to get there. So what did you do? Who helped you? What resources did you need? What support? How much, you know, extra learning did you have to do? And how does it feel to be there?Stuart Webb [00:23:00]:Mhmm.Kim Morgan [00:23:00]:And then and and, basically, you know, it takes a long time to do it properly, but the the the you know, that's what you do. You come back to the chair. You look at the 2 chairs and go, what am I gonna do? You know? What am I gonna do? Because I'm kind of seeing my future a bit here. And, it also it doesn't just necessarily work for a change. Can I tell you one more thing? I don't know how much time we've got. But it also works for business planning really beautifully. There was one occasion when I went to exhibit, one of these sort of learning and development conferences early in Barefoot's history. And I just had a few of bits of, like, 84 papers stuck to the stuck to the sort of screen behind us.Kim Morgan [00:23:49]:You know? The I can't remember what it's called. You know, that exhibition stand. And and everyone else had all these products, and it was so colourful. And I was just mortified. And when I came back, I said, I don't wanna be I don't wanna be in that situation next year. Actually, my, at yeah. The my PA at the time did this with me and said, come on then. You know, do your own exercise.Kim Morgan [00:24:16]:And and I said, and when I sat in that chair, I said, we've got products set about £10 because people, they don't wanna spend a lot. They want something small that they can pick up, something that's colorful. And that gave rise to a whole range of, little boxes of coaching cards that we sell, that whole exercise. So I I will send you downloadable instructions to do it if you want to. It's just something I do every year to go, am I going in the right direction as the years tick by in my life?Stuart Webb [00:24:50]:That's a very interesting exercise, and it reminds me of one that I do with clients, which is what I call the pre mode premortem, which is when you're embarking upon a project, you actually ask yourselves, okay. Let's imagine it's gone horribly wrong because we're all very capable of catastrophizing. So you imagine just how horribly it's gone wrong, and now now you've got yourself to that. What happened to make it go so horribly wrong? Tell me everything which could possibly have gone wrong to get you to this mindset of where everything's gone so horribly wrong and people will come out with all sorts of things. And you just put all of those on a list and you go right those are all the things we're not going to do, now let's talk about the things we will. You do have to put yourself in a different mind, don't you? You have to get into a different mindset in order to actually explore those possibilities and work out what you need to do.Kim Morgan [00:25:32]:You do. In my experience, people do it really easily. First of all, they go, oh, I'm talking to chairs now. Yeah. Exactly what I feared would happen when I came to see a coach. But, actually, it's it's, it's so powerful. And many years ago, I can remember watching a television program where it was about, parents whose children were obese, and they they actually did something like this. They sort of, did a sort of reconstruction of the a construction of the future where they had what their child would look like and be like and feel like in 10 years' time if they hadn't done something about their diet and it hadn'tStuart Webb [00:26:17]:Oh, what a lovely example.Kim Morgan [00:26:20]:Powerful powerful impact. KimStuart Webb [00:26:24]:Kim, let me come come come to my 4th question before, before I let you go back to your world of helping people who really need it. What is it that brought you here? What's what is the what is the one book or or course or or program or whatever that that truly brought you from who you were to to where you are today?Kim Morgan [00:26:49]:That's a that's a really good question. And I don't I I don't think there was one that brought me to coaching because I because I was just on a journey of devouring everything I could about personal development. I was a therapist, and then I did every course and book available. And then I I think back now, and I was I was only young, and I, obviously, had a lot of confidence. And I just thought, you know what? I think I can write a coaching course based on everything I've done. So it was a a whole mix of lots of different people. I studied NLP. I studied Freudian psychotherapy.Kim Morgan [00:27:30]:I studied Carl Rogers' humanistic person's sense of therapy, and I thought took what I thought were the best bits of all of it and created this course. The book that has made the biggest impression on me and on, students on our coach training program is called Time to Think, And it's written by a wonderful woman called Nancy Cline who I I had the privilege of getting to know really well, and she actually taught on our course for many, many years. She stopped teaching because she won't work online because she's so much about that humans human interaction. But I think everyone should read this book, time to think, which is just about the power of listening actually and giving people your really full attention.Stuart Webb [00:28:26]:I love it.Kim Morgan [00:28:28]:Have you read it?Stuart Webb [00:28:29]:I have. You have. It's it's lovely.Kim Morgan [00:28:32]:It's an amazing book, isn't it?Stuart Webb [00:28:34]:And And it does make it does make you realize the importance of being present, because you are so much more able to affect things if you're truly present. And I think that's that's a lesson that we all need to learn.Kim Morgan [00:28:50]:Yeah. And and also sitting in it is like the mind that holds the problem also holds the solution. And if you give people the right conditions to think, not be interrupted, Somewhere inside, they'll come up with the right solution for them. And it, you know, it seems to be a really, really powerful philosophy. In our team, we sometimes just do everyone has, like, 5 minutes each to say something, go around the team, and no one and we all have to keep our eyes on them, and we all have to listen intently. And every time we do that, we're sort of mind blown by how in those 5 minutes we we've learned so much more about that person than we have in the previous, like, month Yeah. Of chitchat.Stuart Webb [00:29:45]:Active listening. Kim, I'm gonna come to my 5th question and this is the question which is, which is the one that I I enjoy asking the most actually if I'm gonna be honest with people, and that is what is the question that I haven't asked you that you wanted me to ask? And this is obviously the where I really learn about, what it is that's currently on your mind and how you're thinking about what you're trying to do to affect those people that really resonate with what you're talking about at the moment.Kim Morgan [00:30:14]:I, yeah, I had so many thoughts about this, but I think the question that I would like you to ask is, yeah, what's next? You know? What's next? I was a kind of pioneer. I was a pioneer of of coaching, and I'm still passionate about it. But I'm really always looking for the next thing that's gonna help people.Stuart Webb [00:30:44]:And so, Kim, what is the next thing for Barefoot Coaching and for Kim Morgan?Kim Morgan [00:30:49]:I think it's more for Kim Morgan than Barefoot Coaching. It's, I I I I think I said, I do a lot of work with grief and loss. And it's a kind of offshoot of grief and loss that I'm really noticing in in clients and people in the world, and that is like family estrangement. There are more and more children divorcing their parents and parents divorcing their children. And I just think it's something that is, you know, people is gonna need a lot of help with.Stuart Webb [00:31:29]:Yeah. SoKim Morgan [00:31:29]:that's the I'm doing a bit of research into that right now.Stuart Webb [00:31:34]:Kim, I wish you every success with that. I love to hear the fact that you're gonna address that. And that's the father of a current 23 year old who still seems to be clinging on like a limpet, showing no signs of divorcing me. I'm sure he won't need your help, but he'll need help from people like you to do so much, in his life. Kim, it's been an absolute pleasure. I mean, a real, real pleasure to have you spend a few minutes with us, and thank you so much for sharing so much intimate knowledge of what you do. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do the, the quick outro, which is, look, if you would like to get an email so that you actually know who's coming on to these things and gonna spend some time listening to people like him, giving huge amounts of value and and, and wisdom. Just go to this link, which is link dot the complete approach dotco.ukforward/newsletter.Stuart Webb [00:32:28]:That's link dot the complete approach dotco.ukforward/newsletter. It's a simple form. You'll get an email once a week, which basically says this week coming up is whoever it is. Tune in and watch the Wisdom Roll. Kim, thank you so much for spending some time with us. I appreciate this is, we had a little technical difficulty, but but we got through the technical difficulty, and we heard you brilliantly throughout it. And and you've really poured wisdom, and I really appreciate the time you spent with us. So thank you so much indeed.Kim Morgan [00:32:59]:I really appreciate you inviting me here. Thank you. I've really loved talking to you. And whoever else is here, thank you for being here.Stuart Webb [00:33:06]:Yeah. We've had we've had some wonderful people, like, and I know Therese Baptist has been here. She's a fantastic fantastic person. I love I love I love Therese. Sally Sally Alou Richards, Andy Chandler. We've had people listening to you, and I know they're gonna enjoy listening back to this, and and hearing what you've been having to say. So thank you so much for spending some time with us.Kim Morgan [00:33:30]:It's been a real pleasure. Thank you. 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In this episode of the Play Therapy Podcast, I respond to a question from Chiara in Florida about working with clients over the age of 14. I explain how child-centered play therapy (CCPT) naturally evolves from a wholly person-centered approach for older teens and adults. Since CCPT is rooted in Carl Rogers' person-centered theory, the core principles—reflecting feelings, providing choices, and fostering a strong therapeutic relationship—remain effective across all ages. I also discuss the importance of maintaining theoretical consistency when working with both children and adults to prevent therapist burnout and ensure congruence. By staying aligned with person-centered principles for all clients, therapists can sustain their energy and provide meaningful, effective therapy without needing to constantly switch frameworks. This episode offers guidance for therapists navigating work with diverse age groups while staying true to the CCPT model. PlayTherapyNow.com is my HUB for everything I do! playtherapynow.com. Sign up for my email newsletter, stay ahead with the latest CCPT CEU courses, personalized coaching opportunities and other opportunities you need to thrive in your CCPT practice. If you click one link in these show notes, this is the one to click! If you would like to ask me questions directly, check out www.ccptcollective.com, where I host two weekly Zoom calls filled with advanced CCPT case studies and session reviews, as well as member Q&A. You can take advantage of the two-week free trial to see if the CCPT Collective is right for you. Ask Me Questions: Call ‪(813) 812-5525‬, or email: brenna@thekidcounselor.com Brenna's CCPT Hub: https://www.playtherapynow.com CCPT Collective (online community exclusively for CCPTs): https://www.ccptcollective.com Podcast HQ: https://www.playtherapypodcast.com APT Approved Play Therapy CE courses: https://childcenteredtraining.com Twitter: @thekidcounselor https://twitter.com/thekidcounselor Facebook: https://facebook.com/playtherapypodcast Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Bratton, S. C., Landreth, G. L., Kellam, T., & Blackard, S. R. (2006). Child parent relationship therapy (CPRT) treatment manual: A 10-session filial therapy model for training parents. Routledge/Taylor & Francis Group. Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.

In this episode of the Family Health Podcast by Mini First Aid, we dive into the all-too-familiar feeling of imposter syndrome with Jamie Shires, an experienced counsellor and mental health trainer. Whether you're a parent, a professional, or even a teenager, this episode will help you understand where imposter syndrome comes from, who it affects and why it happens. Jaimie also shares practical tips on how to silence that critical inner voice and turn it into your inner cheerleader.If you have ever felt like you're about to be ‘found out' for not having it all together or not being as capable as people think you are, you won't want to miss this episode.References:Find out more about Carl Rogers work hereMini First Aid Family First Aid Kit - Platinum Award winning first aid kit, voted a Best Buy in the Loved By Parents Awards 2021, is a comprehensive first aid kit for all the family. Containing 115 essential items, it is ideal for keeping in your car or at home for any first aid emergencies.Find out more about our multi award winning two hour Baby & Child first aid classes here, delivered in a relaxed and comfortable style to give you the confidence to know what actions to take if faced with a medical emergency.For press enquiries and to contact Mini First Aid, email info@minifirstaid.co.ukSeries 4 of the Family Health Podcast by Mini First Aid is sponsored by Things Happen, a trusted broker which offers the best financial advice to help parents and their families make informed decisions, ensuring a secure and tax-efficient future for their children. The team at Things Happen consists of highly qualified financial experts who can guide you through the different types of life insurance policies to consider as your family expands, taking the stress out of decision-making by finding the best deals. If you already have life insurance Things Happen will carefully review your existing policy to ensure it still meets your family's needs, giving you peace of mind, knowing your family is fully protected.  And finally,  if reviewing your life insurance is still on your to-do list, take time to get in touch with an experienced Things Happen financial advisor today.

Ähnlich wie in Deutschland (siehe Podcast-Episoden 164-168) gibt es auch in Österreich Pflegeleistungen bei ADHS.Welche das sind und wie man sie beantragen kann, bespreche ich mit Andrea Primoschitz, psychosoziale Beraterin und Mama eines ADHS-Kindes im heutigen Podcast.Schwerpunkte dieser Episode sind u.a:Welche Techniken und Strategien wir an unsere Kinder weitergeben können, um im Wutanfall selbst auch noch sozial angemessen zu reagieren.Wie und wann Wutanfälle nachbesprochen werden sollten.Wie das "aktive Zuhören" nach Carl Rogers dabei helfen kann.Und vieles mehr ... Links und RessourcenLeitfaden-PDF zu dieser Folge: https://adhshilfe.net/pflegegeld-oesterreich/ADHS-Family Elterntraining (Aufbau, Inhalt und Anmeldung): https://adhshilfe.net/kursPodcast 29 zum ADHS-Family-Kurs (Elterntraining): https://adhshilfe.net/29-der-adhs-family-online-kurs/Webinaraufzeichnung: www.adhshilfe.net/webinaraufzeichnungMeine Telefonnummer: 0043 676 495 84 65Podcastfolgen mit Olesja zu Pflegeleistungen in Deutschland: 164-168Antrag auf Pflegegeld: Onlineformular: https://www.sozialversicherung.gv.at/formgen/?contentid=10007.892452&portal=pvportal&LO=1&layout=withNav&svtcode=02Liste diverser Zeitaufwände (Verordnung): https://www.ris.bka.gv.at/GeltendeFassung.wxe?Abfrage=Bundesnormen&Gesetzesnummer=10009142Weitere RessourcenGehirnvideo: https://adhshilfe.net/gehirnvideo/ADHS kindgerecht erklärt:https://adhshilfe.net/symptome-und-staerken-video/Lehrervideo - https://adhshilfe.net/lehrervideoADHS-Family-Kurs - https://adhshilfe.net/kursVideo “Aushandeln von Regeln und Grenzen“ - https://www.facebook.com/adhsfamily/videos/446265270073258YoutubeNewsletterInstagramADHS Family Facebook Seite

Ever feel like you're carrying a secret that's too heavy to share? In this powerful episode of The Addicted Mind Plus, hosts Duane and Eric Osterlind explore why sharing our authentic stories is crucial for lasting recovery. They dive into how keeping parts of ourselves hidden can actually deepen our isolation, while taking careful steps to share with trusted others can create profound healing. Drawing from the wisdom of pioneering psychotherapist Carl Rogers, they discuss how genuine connection and unconditional acceptance can transform recovery from a lonely journey into a shared path of growth. The hosts offer practical strategies for breaking down the walls of shame and secrecy, while emphasizing the importance of choosing safe people and spaces for self-disclosure. Whether you're in recovery or supporting someone who is, this episode provides valuable insights into building the authentic connections that make lasting change possible. Download: Self-Disclosure in Recovery Worksheet Click Here to Join the TAM + Community. Get the support you need. Our Deep Dive is now in the community, where we discuss this episode in deep  Key Topics: Understanding the relationship between isolation and addiction The role of unconditional positive regard in healing How to identify safe people for self-disclosure Practical steps for sharing your story The importance of starting small with vulnerability Using journaling to explore sharing readiness Creating a self-disclosure plan Timestamps [00:01:04] Introduction to self-disclosure and authentic connection [00:02:00] The impact of keeping secrets in recovery  [00:04:08] Carl Rogers' insights on understanding and acceptance [00:08:35] Practical steps for building vulnerability  [00:11:55] Understanding your comfort level with sharing  [00:13:21] Journaling prompts for self-reflection  [00:14:30] The power of community in recovery Follow and Review: We'd love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: If you live in California and are looking for counseling or therapy please check out Novus Mindful Life Counseling and Recovery Center NovusMindfulLife.com We want to hear from you. Leave us a message or ask us a question: https://www.speakpipe.com/addictedmind Disclaimer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In der vierten und letzten Episode zum Thema "Wut" mit Gertraude Spranger sprechen wir darüber, wei Wutanfälle begleitet werden können.Schwerpunkte dieser Episode sind u.a:Welche Techniken und Strategien wir an unsere Kinder weitergeben können, um im Wutanfall selbst auch noch sozial angemessen zu reagieren.Wie und wann Wutanfälle nachbesprochen werden sollten.Wie das "aktive Zuhören" nach Carl Rogers dabei helfen kann.Und vieles mehr ...Links und RessourcenDKMS (Deutsche Knochenmarkspenderdatei): https://www.dkms.de/registrierenLeitfaden-PDF zu dieser Folge: www.adhshilfe.net/wut-4ADHS-Family Elterntraining (Aufbau, Inhalt und Anmeldung): www.adhshilfe.net/kursPodcast 29 zum ADHS-Family-Kurs (Elterntraining): https://adhshilfe.net/29-der-adhs-family-online-kurs/Webinaraufzeichnung: www.adhshilfe.net/webinaraufzeichnungMeine Telefonnummer: 0043 676 495 84 65Podcast 13 (Weihnachten): https://adhshilfe.net/13-stille-nacht-heilige-nacht/Podcast 75 (Achtsamkeit):https://adhshilfe.net/75-achtsamkeit-und-praesenz-als-unerlaessliche-basis-fuer-erzieherisch-wertvolles-handeln/Gertraudes Wut-Vorlesebuch: "Wilde Wut, wohin mit Dir? Ein Vorlesebuch über den Umgang mit Wut für Kinder im Grundschulalter ohne oder mit ADHS/Autismus und ihre Eltern" (2023). Gertraude Spranger.Weitere RessourcenGehirnvideo: https://adhshilfe.net/gehirnvideo/ADHS kingerecht erklärt: https://adhshilfe.net/symptome-und-staerken-video/Lehrervideo - https://adhshilfe.net/lehrervideoADHS-Family-Kurs - https://adhshilfe.net/kursVideo “Aushandeln von Regeln und Grenzen“ - https://www.facebook.com/adhsfamily/videos/446265270073258Newsletter - http://www.adhshilfe.net/newsletterHier kommt ihr zu meinen Social Media Kanälen:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adhsfamilyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/anna_adhs_hilfe/Link zur ADHS Family Website:https://adhshilfe.net/So könnt ihr mich erreichen:E-Mail: anna@adhshilfe.netDieser Podcast wurde bearbeitet von:Denise Berger https://www.movecut.at

Is there a way to switch gears even when you're running late, overhwhelmed, and already past crispy? Isabelle and David explore how changing gears, especially during a transition--whether it's starting a conversation, leaving the house, beginning a work task--is up to us and how hard and real the struggle is and how important it can be to get your reps in. From potato sprouts and Carl Rogers, to neurodivergent trauma as culture, to all those half finished water bottles underneath your carseat, this conversation embraces what it means to share collective wounds as well as adaptations to a world not built for neurodivergent folx.----Isabelle (speaking of a hard moment trying to get herself and her kids out the door when they're already running so late and then stopping, covering her eyes and ears, and just sitting on the couch)-- thought this "busy-ness" was a personality trait, moving on to the next, to the next, to the next—to always be busy, harried, running behind. And you can't expect the environment to stop when things feel like too much. Pandemic was not a blessing in disguise (that's BS), and Isabelle's experience was that on top of the systemic and personal trauma and wanting to chew her own arm off, it was the first time the world did stop to a degree—it took a lot of demands and choices off the table for her. How often when she is burned out and crispy does she want the world to stop, for things to slow down, to quiet down on a sensory level.  And when the world stopped, that wasn't the answer either, she actually found herself doing more—it's a lot to realize that the world won't stop for you and even when it does, it doesn't address the overwhelm problem. David names that a lot of social expectations changed—doing laundry, doing hygiene. Finding out which things were effective and which weren't was a lot then. In couples, there's a big difference between a harsh versus a soft startup, taken from the work of the Gottmans (see links below). The harsh versus soft start up through transitions—are you giving yourself a harsh or a soft start up to a task? What do you need to transition to a particular activity—do you want to get there late, stressed, sweaty? Or do you want to get there and be bored for a bit, because you're about to read to kids in a library and need to come in with less energy? When Isabelle sits and asks for help, she interrupts and resets a harsh start up to a soft start up. She is doing for herself what she wishes another person would do. Sits her down, has her take a moment, helps take away the expectations and demands. Bobby can do that sometimes, but also she can't expect someone to do that everyday. And it helps her get reps at switching from a soft to a harsh transition. She didn't think she had a gear shift; she was on and off. It's existential, you have to reset your own expectations and what it means to stop. Isabelle has to unmask, and reveal how vulnerable she is and ask for what she needs, she has to face trauma. A client of hers recently invented (she thinks?) This term “ADHD trauma.” Being neurodivergent in a neurotypical world that's constructed to benefit and aid neurotypical ways of being generates trauma by virtue of the not having the right manual. And David calls this ADHD culture. We have different problems with friend groups or making purchases or being an imposter, the thing that makes this podcast fun to listen to. Culture is defined by how we dance with trauma. Every kind of culture—race, class, etc.—sets the standard of how you interact with the world. The feeling of going into a class and forgetting you had a test; all those empty water bottles under the seats, if you could clap your hands and the pile of laundry, the corner you forgot existed—and suddenly we feel better because you're not the one who is like that. Does having ADHD make me allergic to rigid capitalist systems? There's two people: the ADHD person is going to look down at the cliff and see apples and yells “apples!” And then the other person hears “oh, apples?” and makes an apple farm. We're not all the same but we do have something in common. Anything that overwhelms our capacity to cope or unable to change it—isn't any identity the world wants you to change but you can't going to set you up for overwhelming your capacity to cope (you can't run from it, hide it, fight it, play dead…etc.) David has a thought: when he was getting kicked out of school, his brain coded that as bad. Fast forward, he ended up going to grad school at Northwestern. And not a lot of people at Northwestern got kicked out of high school. It's definitely not something that you talked about. But then, he started working and advocating with Eye to Eye and other groups—suddenly, his story had worth. The amount of relief he started to see on kids faces that “oh, you can recover from every mistake” and he wasn't proud when it happened, but now it's an important part of his origin story. In community and connection, the very thing you're hiding is what I'm hiding--whoa, we don't have to hide, how much energy we get from not hiding this thing? When David first went to Northwestern he would lie and tell people he went to a local “multidirectional school" —those people weren't good people and he didn't want to be branded with those people. Isabelle doesn't want to say where she went to college. Because people from our culture don't go to schools like that (like Harvard?) David had no models, didn't know how to say it. Everyone ‘thinks they're the mistake.” Pause for effect, Isabelle went back and looked through her old medical records and she got her records from counseling while at college. In those clinical notes she received an ADHD diagnosis; multiple sessions where she as a client thought she had ADHD, and as many listeners will remember, she didn't know she had ADHD until 15 years later. Isn't that really interesting—isn't that interesting that she was never told she was diagnosed with ADHD, there was no affirmation or information, and in the notes it indicated even why she was even given the type of antidepressant or weaned off, she walked around telling everyone who knew her "I think I have ADHD because I can't focus anymore.” She wasn't told she had a diagnosis. Even when she asked point blank. The world 25 years ago was really different, how much they maybe saved her from a tougher road. When you're "not supposed to" be there, the messages you get at each of these places, to hide, to shame, to silence, to minimize. "Everyone has some ADHD, right?" The masking component has more consequences to neurospicy culture. We don't have the same the care and feeding instructions as the people around us, we'll still grow but it's not the same. A potato sprout is going to grow and develop no matter what situation you're in, whether the potato is in the root cellar or planted in the earth (as Carl Rogers states, see actual full quote below). Across animal groups, culture is modifying your environment in order to adapt, at least how Isabelle learned what culture was when studying archaeology and social anthropology in college. We started to cook as a form of survival, the culture we form is the things we try to do to survive and adapt. Because we have to survive and shelter in the same places. Isabelle feels way better being a potato in the root cellar around potatoes also in the root cellar. Or at least better than the shriveled magic spell potato you find behind the drawer—forgotten produce! Another feature of neurodivergent culture.DEFINITIONS

In this episode, I speak with Bill Miller about his road to developing Motivational Interviewing. Bill explained that he started off heading into pastoral ministry but instead chose to be trained as a clinical psychologist. His behavioral PhD program required a two-semester course on how to work with clients before engaging in behavior therapy, and that's where he was introduced to Carl Rogers and a person-centered approach, which significantly influenced his career. He mentioned watching Gerald Patterson doing behavior therapy with families and seeing how he was with clients: warm, engaging, empathic, and funny, which was not covered in published descriptions of the method. On a sabbatical leave in Norway, Bill was asked to demonstrate his own therapeutic approach through role plays in which the clinicians would stop him and ask good questions: "What are you thinking just now? "Why did you ask that particular question?" "How did you decide what tor reflect from all that the client said?" These interactions helped him reflect on what he was doing and why he was doing it, and he wrote down a description that became the first description of motivational interviewing. Seven years later, on sabbatical leave in Australia, he found himself officed next to Stephan Rollnick who would become his career-long co-author. Rollnick had already been teaching motivational interviewing based on Bill's first article and they decided to write together the first book about motivational interviewing that was published in 1991. When they began teaching the method they noticed that some trainees seemed to be using MI techniques “on” rather than “with” clients. What had they left out? They began writing and teaching about the underlying spirit or attitude with which MI is to be practiced. Therapists also shared with them that this way of practicing seems to prevent burnout. In a later book with Theresa Moyers, Bill discussed eight clinical skills that characterize more effective therapists, which are: accurate empathy, genuineness, positive regard, acceptance, hope, evocation, giving advice, and having shared goals or direction. Bill and I explored the term “resistance” and how it is something that happens between people yet is often attributed to client pathology. In yet another book he argued that ambivalence is natural human nature and even a virtue, as it means the person is weighing the options. He and Rollnick reformulated "resistance" as sustain talk (a natural part of ambivalence) and/or discord in the therapeutic relationship. We discussed how in motivational interviewing the therapist is a guide rather than an expert-director. Lastly, he touched on his work on quantum change, which is transformational change that that can occur within a matter of moments or hours and tends to be both permanent and benevolent. Dr. William R. (Bill) Miller, Emeritus Distinguished Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of New Mexico. He is the author of 67 books including four editions of Motivational Interviewing, Effective Psychotherapists: Clinical Skills That Improve Client Outcomes, Listening Well: The Art of Empathic Understanding , and On Second Thought: How Ambivalence Shapes Your Life. He has been teaching the skill of accurate empathy for over 50 years.

Daily QuoteThe only person who is educated is the one who has learned how to learn …and change. (Carl Rogers)Poem of the DayThe NightSergei YeseninBeauty of WordsA Piece of Chalk (2)G.K. Chesterton

Daily QuoteThe only person who is educated is the one who has learned how to learn …and change. (Carl Rogers)Poem of the DayThe NightSergei YeseninBeauty of WordsA Piece of Chalk (2)G.K. Chesterton

Nhà tâm lý học Carl Rogers nói: "Có một điều nghe rất là lạ lùng và mâu thuẫn, nhưng đó là một sự thật, là khi ta chấp nhận được mình như chính ta là, thì lúc đó ta mới có thể thay đổi. The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change." . Cũng có nghĩa là, sẽ không có gì thay đổi, nếu như ta không chịu nhìn lại để thấy rõ được chính mình.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit andrewsullivan.substack.comEric is a professor of politics at the University of Buckingham, where he runs the new Centre for Heterodox Social Science. He's also an adjunct fellow at the Manhattan Institute. His new book is The Third Awokening: A 12-Point Plan for Rolling Back Progressive Extremism (its title in the UK is Taboo: How Making Race Sacred Produced a Cultural Revolution). He also runs a 15-week online course on the origins of wokeness that anyone can sign up for.For two clips of our convo — why race/gender/sexuality are now considered sacred identities, and whether peak woke is past us — head to our YouTube page. Other topics: born in Hong Kong with a diplomatic dad; raised in Tokyo and Vancouver; living in the UK ever since; how the US spreads its culture wars abroad; the BLM moral panic; “hate speech”; psychotherapy and Carl Rogers; the psychological harm of growing up with homophobia; the gay rights movement; wedding cakes in Colorado; Jon Rauch; Jon Haidt; the taboos of talking immigration or family structure; the Moynihan Report shelved by LBJ; Shelby Steele's book on white guilt; Coleman Hughes and “intergenerational trauma”; anti-Semitism and the Holocaust; the AIDS crisis; the tradeoffs in trans rights vs. women's rights; the spurious “mass graves” of indigenous Canadians; the CRA of 1964 dovetailing with the Immigration Act of 1965; Chris Caldwell; Richard Hanania; America's original sin of slavery; Locke and Hobbes; Douglas Murray's The War on the West; Churchill; cancel culture; CRT as unfalsifiable; Ibram Kendi; the gender imbalance in various industries; Chris Rufo; how Trump makes wokeness worse; the absence of identity politics in Harris' convention speech; and being comfortable with being “abnormal”.Browse the Dishcast archive for an episode you might enjoy (the first 102 are free in their entirety — subscribe to get everything else). Coming up: Rod Dreher on religion and the presidential race, Michelle Goldberg on Harris, David Frum on Trump, Bill Wasik and Monica Murphy on the history of animal cruelty, John Gray on, well, everything, and Sam Harris for our quadrennial chat before Election Day. Please send any guest recs, dissents, and other comments to dish@andrewsullivan.com.

Join Alex and returning guest host Dr. Ed Hansen in a discussion of cognitive-behavioral therapy and socio-developmental psychology in the Oscar-winning writer/stars Matt Damon and ben Affleck breakout Good Will Hunting (1997). But let's not forget the runaway star of this movie, the other Oscar-winner of this film, Robin Williams! In a film directed by Gus Van Sant, Matt plays Will Hunting, a troubled but brilliant young adult who eschews therapy but ultimately benefits from Carl Rogers' ideas embodied in cognitive-behavioral therapy. Join them as they pahrk the cahr at Hahvahrd Yahrd and chat! Wicked ahwesome! Follow Ed on Twitter: @EdHansen_PhDAD Please leave your feedback on this post, the main site (cinemapsychpod.swanpsych.com), on Facebook (@CinPsyPod), Twitter (@CinPsyPod), or Instagram (@cinemapsych_podcast) and Threads (@cinemapsych_podcast). We'd love to hear from you! Don't forget to check out our Paypal link to contribute to this podcast and keep the lights on! Don't forget to check out our MERCH STORE for some great merch with our logo and other designs! Legal stuff: 1. All film clips are used under Section 107 of Title 17 U.S.C. (fair use; no copyright infringement is intended). 2. Intro and outro music by half.cool ("Gemini"). Used under license. 3. Film reel sound effect by bone666138. Used under license CC-BY 3.0.

In this episode, I dive deep into my transformative journey with Connor Milstein's movement system. This isn't just about getting in shape; it's about aligning your body, mind, and spirit to the highest degrees of love and transformation.We kick off by exploring my initial resistance to adopting Connor's system and how committing to it has led to unprecedented levels of personal growth. I'm talking about physical changes like increased neck size and foot growth, as well as deeper shifts in confidence, creativity, and decision-making.I share how the combination of internal world safety and expansiveness with physical practices has been mind-blowing. We touch on sacred geometry and how love and efficient energy distribution manifest as beautiful, symmetrical shapes. Carl Rogers' idea of perpetual adaptation also makes an appearance, shedding light on the importance of being in a constant state of change and evolution.The episode is a love letter to Connor's movement system and its profound impact on my life. If you're committed to becoming love in a world-class way, this is the episode for you.Thank you for tuning in. Your support and love mean the world to me. Let's continue this journey of transformation together.Join my Free 7 Day Course "How to Identify and Heal Unconscious Wounds" HERE! Here are 3 ways I can help you:Online CommunitySmall Group Coaching1:1 Mentorship

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David and Isabelle navigated the treacherous landscape of surviving and being the lucky ones; are we trash? Are we seahorses? From defeating the enemy that is loose glitter, to brain regions resembling animals, to why it hurts when we beat up on ourselves, tackling the pain and looking at ourselves with intention. ——Isabelle was told she's a talker, but she's also a listener. There's this thing Isabelle borrows from mindfulness practices and therapy ideas: what you resist persists, what you go with flows, go for the ride. She had this moment the other day, at what point is it going to be bore her? She is easily bored, she is initially excited about and then she loses interest in it, she can be hyper fixated on the thing and then it passes, and then why is it that she's never been bored in a session—it's never happened: when will it not be exciting or curious? It's not the same thing as it being easy or effortless, challenge does not mean something isn't fun, and maybe it's one of her favorite things to do. David names: it's amazing to be put into an environment where it's dangerous if you don't pay attention to listening, attending to the patterns and themes in the group—it's almost what I've done in my entire life. Find ways to honor ourselves. I want someone to be able to look at me and respectfully out himself more often, and we don't see the models are dysfunction. “This kid having ADHD and being in jail” is part of the story. Until everything is shiny! Glitter! Except loose glitter which is Isabelle's worst nightmare. She learned, the hard way, that loose glitter found it's way into her world, the moment you try to clean it up, it's “this glitter will be here always.” The glitter's arch nemesis is tape—you're welcome everybody. You still have to sit there for hours, but it makes the cleanup satisfying. David has had the thought of rooms with too much glitter and thought: burn this room. Isabelle names that this is different when there is epoxy style glitter in a floor or a tile, or in a shoe—she loves how there's a lot of glittery shoes, but the glitter is contained in a plastic shell. And there's something amazing about the shiny but it needs to stay shiny and not be embedded in anyone's skin. Isabelle's friend pointed this out: David has a pleasant voice, and Isabelle, back in high school, was on speech team, and she competed in radio speaking, where you essentially you get to be in a room separate from everybody and record into a microphone. That got her over her fear of public speaking, only they used tapes and tape recorders. Who knew? These little things, not exactly fate v. Free will—isn't it interesting the things that had to come into play were miraculous or exponentially improbable. David thinks his survival in life is pretty lucky. Like LeDerick said, we're statistically survivors, how did we get there? David is sometimes looking at a river and it's all pristine and there's this piece of trash attached to a log not getting sucked down the river, and that's him, he's a piece of trash, and he got saved. He was powerless being swept by the current—a lot of us were—whether we found partners, or friends, or jobs or something. The odds of David getting an advanced degree, being in a counseling practice, and having the same diagnosis. There was a moment in their office, it was Isabelle's first or second month, and we were talking about structure and stuff, and it went brain-seahorse. And David went “maybe…maybe…” and everyone else just saw, it's going to go somewhere else. To finish the thought: once seahorses have partnered, upon the first rays of sunlight entering the ocean, they will do a synchronized dance to each other. Speaking of seahorses: the hippocampus is the part of the brain is responsible for episodic memory, ability to time stamp when something has happened in our life, seal it with a declarative context—and to connect it to David's trash metaphor, how a seahorse gets around: it attaches to kelp or seaweed and it floats on the currents, and it mates for life, and takes care of it's babies, and it does not make sense, and it exists nonetheless. Isabelle doesn't think we're trash on a river, we're the seahorses. David names that 50% of people with ADHD don't graduate on time. Isabelle names: a lot seahorses don't survive, statistically there's so many don't make it. David names there's a lot of compassion and meaning to what we see—Isabelle is doing a lot of shaming to the trash. David is not trying to say we're mistakes, but he doesn't think the system sees value in us, but we have to see value in ourselves. You see me, I see you, grab my hand, we'll do things together, we are trying to survive. David is never going to judge survival. Isabelle quotes Carl Rogers, when the potato sprouts, it's doesn't matter if it's in the earth or in the root cellar, it will reach out toward the little shaft of light, and he talks about it as an actualizing tendency, we're always going toward the sunlight, and everyone else is casting shame “silly potato” but it's doing what it does. The labels that we put on things can be really distracting, and there's a big debate about diagnosing, and David names that labels can be minimizing and restrictive, but with ADHD, there's some power in that label, in knowing you're not alone, that it's really hard when you're dealing with internal invisible motivational things, it's easy to think there's something wrong with you, and you need to spend time with people that don't make you feel like trash, and you spend time doing things, and you don't trash yourself. But also, David identifies with the trash in the river. ANd things changed when he didn't need the system to find value. How do you relate to yourself in seeing the value you hold and knowing that. It connects to internal family systems, there's this interesting idea that the reason why when you're beating yourself up, it causes actual pain—there's another part, however small or exiled, there is another part that is taking that hit. When we're beating ourselves up, a part of us is trying to convince the part that desperately doesn't want it to be true. It's like trying to beat down a part that inherently knows it has value. It's not just practicing and noticing the strengths and the peaks, but also having the space and safety to grieve, that you had a lot more peaks, and lot of people missed it, and you were wrong about you, too—there's a whole reckoning. David would use this question to ground himself: “when did that not happen?” Oh, with these people, in that place, when I'm doing x—“where does it not happen?” Even looking at childhood, “my parents were always angry”—when were they not? This makes Isabelle think of your default neural network—you're brain is going to always do the thing that it's most used to, because it's more efficient to do the thing you do every day—if you're not actively or intentionally trying to counter that, you're going to coast—and if you've been knocked down, and you've been hit harder and felt it more acutely than most, and you're default mode is going to be rough, and it does take concentrated effort to work with this, and that's where environments and community comes in. Dr. Daniel Siegel - the neurons that fire together, wire togetherCoolest books about seahorses - Poseidon's Steed: The Story of Seahorses, from Myth to Reality by Dr. Helen Scales, Ph.D.Carl Rogers quote “potato sprout”...

Heute gibt's eine einfache, aber wichtige Erkenntnis aus dem Archiv: Wenn ich mich so akzeptiere, wie ich bin, dann bekomme ich die Möglichkeit, mich zu verändern. Dieser Meinung war zumindest der Psychologe Carl Rogers. Was er damit genau meint, darüber sprechen Leon und Atze heute. Außerdem nehmen sie euch mit nach Istanbul, wo sie verschiedenste Einblicke in ein ganz anderes Land sammeln durften! Fühlt euch gut betreut Leon & Atze Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leonwindscheid/ https://www.instagram.com/atzeschroeder_offiziell/ Der Instagram Account für Betreutes Fühlen: https://www.instagram.com/betreutesfuehlen/ Mehr zu unseren Werbepartnern findet ihr hier: https://linktr.ee/betreutesfuehlen Hier Tickets für die Show in Münster sichern: https://betreutesfuehlen.online-ticket.de/muenster-2024 Masterclass von Leon ab Herbst https://wemynd.de Das erwähnte Buch von Carl Rogers heißt "On Becoming a Person“. Quellen: Orgasm Sound Library: https://orgasmsoundlibrary.com/?id=3844#home

I played '7 Things' by Miley Cyrus and felt like I REALLY HEARD IT FOR THE FIRST TIME. Shout out to transforming mental dialogue. In this episode we're doing what we do best: asking questions to ask more questions. I'll be attempting to ask the age old question: "why are you studying counselling?", then take you through some of the insights. Like why asking why is usually the wrong question to ask (excuse ME??), person-centered therapy, paraphrasing, Carl Rogers' unconditional positive regard, and the challenge of maintaining empathy without enabling. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Miss you dearly!! Bye for now!

Join us on the latest episode of the Psyched to Practice podcast as we dive deep into the importance of being genuine and authentic. Hosted by Paul Wagner and Ray Christner, we explore how authenticity influences not just the therapy room, but all aspects of life. From the insights of Carl Rogers to personal anecdotes, this episode is packed with practical advice and thoughtful reflections on embracing your true self. Tune in now to discover how being real can lead to more meaningful connections and a richer, more fulfilling life.Visit our website at: http://www.psychedtopractice.com Please follow the link below to access all of our hosting sites. https://www.buzzsprout.com/2007098/share “Be well, and stay psyched”#mentalhealth #podcast #psychology #psychedtopractice #counseling #socialwork #ImprovingLiteracy #MentalHealthAwareness  #ClinicalPractice #mentalhealth  #podcast

Unconditional positive regard, a concept introduced by Carl Rogers, emphasizes accepting and supporting clients without judgment regardless of what the client says or does. We have thoughts!Join us on October 26th for our 1-day conference in beautiful North Vancouver. For more information, visit EventBrite and search Edge of the Couch. Secure your spot before June 30th for an early bird ticket! See you there!

Hey guys, welcome back to The Mind Mate Podcast! I'm your host, Tom Ahern, and in today's episode, we're diving deep into the fascinating world of psychotherapy through the eyes of two legendary figures: Carl Rogers and Irvin Yalom. Carl Rogers, the mastermind behind client-centred therapy, has revolutionised the way we think about the therapeutic process. One of his most famous quotes is, "The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can change." Today, we'll explore how Rogers' emphasis on unconditional positive regard, empathy, and authenticity creates a nurturing environment where clients can truly thrive and discover their genuine selves. On the flip side, we have Irvin Yalom, a pioneer in existential psychotherapy, who brings a unique perspective on the human condition. Yalom's approach is deeply rooted in addressing fundamental human concerns like death, freedom, isolation, and meaning. He beautifully encapsulates his philosophy with the quote, "The therapist is the fellow traveler, not a master or superior; the aim is to guide the patient on a journey of self-discovery." We'll discuss how his collaborative and humanistic approach helps individuals navigate their existential journeys.In this episode, I'll be breaking down the core principles of both Rogers' and Yalom's therapeutic goals, and how their insights can help us achieve greater self-understanding, acceptance, and fulfilment. Whether you're a therapist, a psychology enthusiast, or someone keen on personal growth, this episode is packed with valuable insights and inspiration.So, sit back, relax, and join me as we uncover the transformative potential of therapy with the wisdom of Carl Rogers and Irvin Yalom. *** The Mind Mate podcast provides listeners with tools and ideas to get to know themselves. Psychology-based with an existential twist, the podcast delves into topics ranging from philosophy, spirituality, creativity, psychedelia and, of course, the meaning of life! Your host Tom is a counsellor and psychotherapist who specialises in existential concerns and relationships. He is also a writer who enjoys exploring the ideas that emerge in therapy to help people live meaningful lives. Find out more here: https://ahern.blog/

In this episode, we explore Carl Rogers' 'Curious Paradox'—the concept that true change comes from self-acceptance. We'll talk about the historical context of Rogers' humanistic psychology and his focus on unconditional positive regard and person-centered therapy. The big takeaway is the profound impact self-acceptance and self-compassion have on behavior change and healing.    Watch this episode on YouTube.   Key moments: 00:00 Welcome to Joy Lab 00:39 Introducing the Curious Paradox 01:35 About Carl Rogers 05:00 The Power of Self-Acceptance 09:39 Personal Stories of Self-Acceptance 13:29 Embracing Authenticity 20:40 Closing Thoughts and Wisdom    Joy Lab and Natural Mental Health are community-supported. When you buy through the links below, we may earn a commission. That support helps keeps the Joy Lab podcast free for all!   Sources and Notes: Joy Lab Program: Take the next leap in your wellbeing journey with step-by-step practices to help you build and maintain the elements of joy in your life. Your Joy Lab membership also includes our NMH Community! NMH Community: Access lots of extra resilience-boosting resources AND join a group of inspiring folks who play an integral role in keeping this podcast going. Many of our serotonin-supporting resources and additional self-care strategies can be found in your Resilience Mini Course. If you don't have your Course yet, simply take the Free Resilience Quiz and then sign up for your free Mini Course to identify your mental health strengths and obstacles and take meaningful actions to support your resilience. Gabrielle Calvocoressi's website. Where to shop: Our partner store at Fullscript: This is where you can find high-quality supplements and wellness products. Except for our CBD Gummies, any product links mentioned in the show notes below will require an account. Sign up for your free Fullscript account here: https://us.fullscript.com/welcome/nmh/store-start Resilient Remedies: This is where you can find our line of trusted, high-quality CBD gummies: https://www.resilientremedies.com/ Davies, J., & Read, J. (2019). A systematic review into the incidence, severity and duration of antidepressant withdrawal effects: Are guidelines evidence-based? Addictive behaviors, 97, 111–121. Van Leeuwen E, et al. (2021). Approaches for discontinuation versus continuation of long‐term antidepressant use for depressive and anxiety disorders in adults. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2021. Subscribe to our Newsletter: Join us over at NaturalMentalHealth.com for exclusive emails, updates, and additional strategies. Check out our favorite resilience-boosting reads: https://bookshop.org/shop/NMHreads    Please remember that this content is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to provide medical advice and is not a replacement for advice and treatment from a medical professional. Please consult your doctor or other qualified health professional before beginning any diet change, supplement, or lifestyle program. Please see our terms for more information. If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call the NAMI HelpLine: 1-800-950-6264 available Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. – 10 p.m., ET. OR text "HelpLine" to 62640 or email NAMI at helpline@nami.org. Visit NAMI for more. You can also call or text SAMHSA at 988 or chat 988lifeline.org.  

Devin Bustin is not just a poet, songwriter, musician, and, gulp, minister (official title: Director of Spiritual Growth and Students). He's one of the most influential people in my life. Listen to us plumb our shared evangelical Christian history, the possible different functions of doubt in our lives, our shared love of poetry, and the entry of recovery into our lives.Content warning: going pro with Christianity, poverty tourism, sobriety, the unmarketed opinions of evangelical churches, A Gentle Path Through the Twelve Steps, Carl Rogers' unconditional positive regard, Ross Gay's Last Will and Testament.If you believe in This Is Your Afterlife and want fun bonus episodes, become a patron for $5 or $15/month at patreon.com/davemaher. Devin has a website, devinbustin.com, and an Instagram, @devinbustin. He doesn't use either much, but if he has new projects to announce, it should be on one or both of those platforms.Donate to the Chicago Abortion Fund via my page to provide life-saving healthcare to folks who need abortions.Follow this show on IG: @thisisyourafterlife, and get more info at thisisyourafterlife.com. Have thoughts on the show? Email thisisyourafterlifepodcast@gmail.com.Follow me @thisisdavemaher on Instagram and Twitter.All music by This Is Your Afterlife house band Lake Mary.Check out my other podcast, Genre Reveal Party!, where I analyze TV and movies with my friend, writer and cultural critic Madeline Lane-McKinley.

Are you wondering if you have toxic parents? Or if you were raised by a toxic parent? Unfortunately, toxic parents may not realize their mistakes until the mistakes are too late. Regardless, whether or not a parent is purposely being toxic, there are several behaviors that can cause an emotional trauma later on. Do you think you might have a toxic mom or a toxic dad? Then this video is for you. Do note, not all parents are perfect, but your parents will still try their best and want to be the best for you if they can. Script: Chloe Avenasa Script Editor: Denise Ding & Kelly Soong Narrator: Amanda Silvera Animator: @skyla0357 Manager: Cindy Cheong Founder: Tai Khuong Did you enjoy this video? Would you like to see more? If so, send us an email! Also, if you can help share our videos that would be great! We really need that favor at the moment. It would be nice to know our content is helping many people. References: Pescitelli, D. (1996). An analysis of Carl Rogers' theory of personality. Retrieved September, 20, 2009. Grosz, M. P., Dufner, M., Beck, M. D., &Denissen, J. J. (2015). Who is Open to a Narcissistic Romantic Partner? The Roles of Sensation-Seeking, Trait Anxiety, and Similarity. Journal of Research in Personality, 58, 84-95. Vecchio, R. P. (2007). Power, politics, and influence. University of Chicago Press Journals. (2007 October 7). Negativity is Contagious, Study Finds. Science Daily. Retrieved November 15, 2019 from sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071004/135757.htm

Are you the same person you were a decade ago? Do we get better as we age? And is your sixth-grade class clown still funny?  SOURCES:Aaron (Tim) Beck, professor emeritus of psychiatry at the University of Pennsylvania.Daniel Gilbert, professor of psychology at Harvard University.Olga Khazan, staff writer at The Atlantic. Brian Little, professor of psychology at the University of Cambridge.Jordi Quoidbach, professor of people management and organisation at ESADE, University Ramon Llull.Carl Rogers, 20th-century psychologist.Martin Short, actor and comedian.Richard Wiseman, professor of the public understanding of psychology at the University of Hertfordshire.Timothy Wilson, professor of psychology at the University of Virginia. RESOURCES:"I Gave Myself Three Months to Change My Personality," by Olga Khazan (The Atlantic, 2022)."You Can Be a Different Person After the Pandemic," by Olga Khazan (The New York Times, 2021)."The Theory of Modes: Applications to Schizophrenia and Other Psychological Conditions," by Aaron T. Beck, Molly R. Finkel, and Judith S. Beck (Cognitive Therapy and Research, 2020).“Brian Little: Are Human Personalities Hardwired?" by Guy Raz (TED Radio Hour, 2017).I Must Say: My Life As a Humble Comedy Legend, by Martin Short (2014)."The End of History Illusion," by Jordi Quoidbach, Daniel T. Gilbert, and Timothy D. Wilson (Science, 2013)."Age Differences in Personality Traits From 10 to 65: Big Five Domains and Facets in a Large Cross-Sectional Sample," by Christopher J. Soto, Oliver P. John, Samuel D. Gosling, and Jeff Potter (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 2011)."The Rank-Order Consistency of Personality Traits From Childhood to Old Age: A Guantitative Review of Longitudinal Studies," by Brent W. Roberts and Wendy F. DelVecchio (Psychological Bulletin, 2000). EXTRAS:Big Five Personality Inventory, by No Stupid Questions (2024).Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, TV series (2012-present).

— Carl Rogers, psychologist wrote in 1959 his view on human nature, that when people are placed in meaningful therapeutic conditions, they will naturally change in a positive direction. Carl Rogers and William Miller (psychologist) have separately shared that this tendency toward reaching your true inner self “it is as natural as a plant's growth upward toward the light when given adequate soil, water, and sunshine. It is as if each person has a natural mature end-state or purpose (Telos, in Greek) toward which he or she will grow given optimal conditions.” They say that the Telos of an acorn is to become an oak tree; to reach its true purpose. Each action we take as humans is directed towards some Telos (i.e. purpose) and real change involves identifying concrete steps needed to attain Telos. Telos has many terms that describes it in philosophy; goal, completion, or fulfillment; this translates into all walks of life. Valeria interviews Marissa Harris — She is a compassionate therapist dedicated to guiding individuals on a transformative journey toward holistic well-being through sensorimotor psychotherapy.  She is a licensed independent clinical social worker, national board certified clinical social work diplomate, certified substance abuse provider, and certified in mindfulness-based relapse prevention, and a mindfulness-based relapse prevention group facilitator. She has specialized training in trauma informed approaches in Level 2 Sensorimotor Psychotherapy, Trauma Informed Stabilization Treatment, EMDR, Motivational Interviewing, and Internal Family Systems approaches. She is also trained in the Institute of Functional Medicine where she explores ways to highlight the intricate link between our emotional experiences and bodily responses. She is currently the owner of Telos Health and Wellness Services, a private practice where she offers individual therapy as well as consultation. Throughout her 25 years in the field, she has served as a steadfast advocate and mentor, guiding and empowering a team of dedicated trauma, medical, and forensic professionals. She shares the honor and privilege of supporting individuals navigating life circumstances that have led to symptoms consistent with PTSD or dissociative disorders. Her focus remains centered on the person and understanding the unique challenges someone could face as a result of their experiences or environment. Exploring a holistic approach, she believes in the power of the body to hold and release emotional pain, trauma, and stress. Through gentle exploration and mindfulness, she helps people reconnect with the innate wisdom of their body at a pace that works for the person she is supporting. She feels the body tells a story and she utilizes a way of listening, honoring, and understanding its language. To learn more about Marissa Harris and her work, please visit: https://www.teloshealthandwellnessservices.com

WHAT RECOVERY LENS ARE YOU LOOKING THROUGH? This week Drew and Josh take a bit of an unexpected turn to explore ways that CBT and exposure-based approaches to recovery can fall short. Recovery can't always be about facing, accepting, exposures, and Claire Weekes. While we might not look to other models to unearth deeply hidden root causes for an anxiety disorder, other theoretical frameworks can be quite useful - or even necessary - to conceptualize why one might encounter obstacles in the recovery process itself. In this episode, the guys so a little Transactional Analysis role play, drag the venerable Carl Rogers into the recovery forum, and generally provide different ways of looking at how you see yourself and what recovery lenses you might be looking through. ---- Struggling with worry and rumination that you feel you can't stop or control? Check out Worry and Rumination Explained, a two hour pre-recorded workshop produced by Josh and Drew. The workshop takes a deep dive into the mechanics of worrying and ruminating, offering some helpful ways to approach the seemingly unsolvable problem of trying to solve seemingly unsolveable problems. https://bit.ly/worryrumination ----- Want to ask us questions, share your wins, or get more information about Josh, Drew, and the Disordered podcast? Visit us on the web at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://disordered.fm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Disclaimer: Disordered is not therapy or a replacement for therapy. Listening to Disordered does not create a therapeutic relationship between you and the hosts of the podcast. Information here is provided for psychoeducational purposes. As always, when you have questions about your well-being, please consult your mental health and/or medical care providers. If you are having a mental health crisis, always reach out immediately for in-person help.

Tony Overbay, LMFT, welcomes Kurt Francom, the executive director and podcast host of Leading Saints ([Leading Saints](https://www.leadingsaints.org)). Kurt's first book, "Is God Disappointed in Me: Removing Shame From the Gospel of Grace," is available on Amazon ([Amazon Link](https://amzn.to/49BYUCk)). In a candid admission, Tony shares his emotionally immature reaction upon discovering Kurt's book through a third party, revealing the concocted narratives in his head about their relationship, with Kurt unknowingly cast as the villain. The revelation of Tony's oversight in missing a crucial recording sent by Kurt months earlier brings to light the miscommunication that unwittingly altered their friendship dynamic. Peace is restored Through their conversation, and their bond of best friendship is reaffirmed. The discussion then shifts to Kurt's book, delving into the intricate concepts of ego and identity. They explore the notion of a healthy ego, the pervasive quest for validation, and how living for an identity differs fundamentally from living from an identity that has been validated by divine grace. Kurt highlights the identity paradox, suggesting that receiving grace allows us to extend it more freely. He references Carl Rogers, stating, "The curious paradox is that when I accept myself just as I am, then I can begin to change." This acceptance is seen not as a form of apathy but as a mindful acknowledgment that paves the way for genuine personal transformation. Kurt deepens the conversation by asserting that recognizing our inherent validation from God enables us to cultivate a meaningful relationship with Him. This evolution occurs not because of our deeds but due to our intrinsic value and identity. 00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter 00:33 Discussing Kurt Francom's New Book 01:34 Exploring the Concept of Acceptance 02:20 Reflecting on Personal Experiences and Challenges 03:26 The Importance of Validation and Acceptance 04:59 Unpacking the Imposter Syndrome 06:25 The Role of Repentance in Personal Growth 08:13 Understanding the Impact of Misunderstanding God 10:00 The Power of Acceptance in Personal Transformation 12:06 The Journey of Repentance and Turning to God 13:42 Conclusion: The Power of Acceptance and Repentance 22:10 Unhealthy Coping Mechanisms and Their Impact 22:42 The Role of Validation in Our Lives 23:37 The Struggle for Acceptance and Validation 24:42 The Power of God's Love and Validation 25:31 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Differentiation 26:48 The Importance of Embracing Change and Growth 28:03 The Role of Ego in Our Personal Development 28:38 The Power of Grace and Forgiveness 29:40 The Struggle with Validation and Recognition 30:07 The Journey of Writing a Book 31:21 The Power of Curiosity and Openness in Learning 32:20 The Role of Identity in Our Spiritual Journey 34:16 The Importance of Acceptance and Self-Respect 35:35 The Power of Differentiation and Self-Awareness 37:46 The Struggle with Defensive Narcissism 39:42 The Power of Acceptance and Self-Validation 41:44 The Journey of Self-Reflection and Growth 43:14 The Power of Humility and Self-Acceptance 44:06 The Journey of Writing and Publishing a Book 45:17 The Power of Authenticity and Self-Expression 45:55 The Importance of Embracing Change and Uncertainty 46:46 The Power of Self-Acceptance and Self-Love To learn more about Tony's upcoming re-release of the Magnetic Marriage course, his Pathback Recovery course, and more, sign up for his newsletter through the link at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouch Available NOW: Tony's "Magnetic Marriage Mini-Course" is only $25. https://magneticmarriage.mykajabi.com/magnetic-marriage-mini-course Please follow Tony's newest Instagram account for the Waking Up to Narcissism podcast https://www.instagram.com/wutnpod/ as well as Tony's account https://www.instagram.com/tonyoverbay_lmft/ Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384 Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that good! To learn more about Descript, click here https://descript.com?lmref=bSWcEQ

In the realm of mental health, the role of an anxiety therapist is often shrouded in mystery and misconceptions. To shed light on this crucial profession, Joshua Fletcher, also known as AnxietyJosh, shares insights from his latest book, "And How Does That Make You Feel?: Everything You (N)ever Wanted to Know About Therapy," in a candid conversation with Kimberley Quinlan on her podcast. Joshua's book aims to demystify the therapeutic process, offering readers an intimate look behind the therapy door. It's not just a guide for those struggling with anxiety but an engaging narrative that invites the general public into the world of therapy. The book's unique angle stems from a simple yet intriguing question: Have you ever wondered what your therapist is thinking? One of the book's key revelations is the humanity of therapists. Joshua emphasizes that therapists, like their clients, are complex individuals with their own vices, flaws, and inner dialogues. The book begins with a scene where Joshua, amidst a breakthrough session with a client, battles an array of internal voices—from the biological urge to use the restroom to the critical voice questioning his decision to drink an Americano right before the session. This honest portrayal extends to the array of voices that therapists and all humans contend with, including anxiety, criticism, and analytical thinking. Joshua's narrative skillfully normalizes the internal chatter that professionals experience, even as they maintain a composed exterior. The conversation also touches upon the diverse modalities of therapy, highlighting the importance of finding the right approach for each individual's needs. Joshua jests about "The Yunger Games," a fictional annual event where therapists from various modalities compete, underscoring the passionate debates within the therapeutic community regarding the most effective treatment methods. A significant portion of the book delves into the personal growth and challenges therapists face, including dealing with their triggers and the balance between professional detachment and personal empathy. Joshua shares an anecdote about experiencing a trigger related to grief during a session, illustrating how therapists navigate their emotional landscapes while maintaining focus on their clients' needs. The awkwardness of encountering clients outside the therapy room is another aspect Joshua candidly discusses. He humorously describes the internal turmoil therapists experience when meeting clients in public, highlighting the delicate balance of maintaining confidentiality and acknowledging the shared human experience. Joshua's book, and his conversation with Kimberley, paint a vivid picture of the life of an anxiety therapist. It's a role filled with challenges, personal growth, and the profound satisfaction of facilitating others' journeys toward mental wellness. By pulling back the curtain on the therapeutic process, Joshua hopes to demystify therapy, making it more accessible and less intimidating for those considering it. In essence, being an anxiety therapist is about embracing one's humanity, continuously learning, and engaging in the most human conversations without judgment. It's a profession that requires not only a deep understanding of mental health but also a willingness to confront one's vulnerabilities and grow alongside their clients. Through his book and the insights shared in this conversation, Joshua Fletcher invites us all to appreciate the intricate dance of therapy—a dance that, at its best, can be life-changing for both the therapist and the client. Transcript:  Kimberley: I'm very happy to have back on the show Joshua Fletcher, a dear friend of mine and quite a rock star. He has written a new book called And How Does That Make You Feel?: Everything You (N)ever Wanted to Know About Therapy. Welcome back, Josh. Joshua: It's good to be back. Thanks, Kim. When was the last time we spoke together on a podcast? I think you were on The Disordered podcast not so long ago. That was lovely. But I remember my guest appearance on Your Anxiety Toolkit was lovely. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?  Kimberley: I know. I'm so happy to actually spend some time chatting with you together. I'm very excited about your new book. It's all about therapy and anxiety and what it's really like to be an anxiety therapist and the process of therapy and all the things. How did this book come about? Joshua: I wanted to write a book about people who struggle with anxiety, but in the mainstream, because a lot of the literature out there is very self-help, and it's in a certain niche. One of my biggest passions is to write something engaging with a nice plot where people are reading about something or a storyline that they're interested in whilst inadvertently learning without realizing you're learning. That's my kind of entertainment—when I watch a show and I've learned a lot about something or when I've read a book and I've inadvertently learned loads of things because I'm taking in the plot.  With this book, I wanted to write a book about therapy. Now, that initially might not get people to pick it up, might not interest you, might not interest you about anxiety therapy, but I wanted to write something that anyone could pick up and enjoy and learn lots because I want to share our world that we work in with the general public. And so, the hook that I focused on here was, have you ever wanted to know what your therapist is thinking? And I thought, well, I'm going to tell people what I'm thinking, and I'm going to invite people behind the therapy door, and you're going to see what I do and what's going on in my head as I'm trying to work with people who struggle with mental health.  I wrote the pitch for it. People went bananas, and they loved it because it's not been done before. Not necessarily a good thing if it's not been done before. And here we are. I love it. I'm really proud of it. I want people to laugh, cry, be informed. If you go on a journey, learn more about therapy, learn more about anxiety. All in one book. THERAPISTS ARE HUMANS TOO Kimberley: Yeah. I think that one of the many cool things about it is, as a therapist, people seem to be always very curious or intrigued about therapists, about what it's like and what it's like to be in a room with someone who's really struggling, or when you're handling really difficult topics, and how to be just a normal human being and a therapist at the same time. Joshua: Yeah. What I want to write about is to remind people that therapists are humans. We have our vices and flaws. I'm not talking on behalf of you, Kim. I'm sure you're perfect.  Kimberley: No, no. No, no. Flawed as flawed could be. Joshua: Yeah, but to a level that it's like, even our brains have different voices in them all the time, different thought processes as part of our rationalization. And I want people to peer inside that and have a look. So, one of them is like the book opens with me and a client and it's going really well, and this person's talking, this character's talking about where they're up to, and celebrating on the brink of something great. And then there's the voice of biology that just pops into the room, into my head. And it's the biology of you need to go to the toilet. Why did it? And then the voice of critic comes in and says, “Why did you drink an Americano moments before this client?” Now you're sat here, and you can leave if you want, but it would be distasteful. And you're on this brink of this breakthrough.  And so, I've got this argument going on in my head, going, “You need the toilet.” “Yeah, but this person's on a breakthrough.” And then I got empathy, like, “Yeah, but they feel so vulnerable. They want to share this.” And then you've got analytical and all the chaotic conversations that are happening as a therapist as I'm sat there nodding and really wanting the best for my client. THE VOICES IN OUR HEAD Kimberley: Exactly. That's why I thought it was so brilliant. So, for those of you who haven't read it, I encourage you to, but Josh really outlines at the beginning of the book all of these different voices that therapists and all humans have. There's the anxiety's voice and there's biology, which you said, like, “I need to go to the restroom,” or there's the critic that's judging you, or there's the analytical piece, which is the clinical piece that's making sense of the client and what's going on and the relationship and all the things. And I really resonated with that because I think that we think as clinicians, as we get better and more seasoned, that we only show up with this professional voice we're on the whole time, but we're so not. We're so not on the whole time. This whole chatter is happening in the background. And I think you did a beautiful job of just normalizing that. Joshua: Thanks, Kim. It's a book that therapists will like, but do you know what? People will identify their own voices in this, particularly the anxiety. You and I talk about anxiety all day every day, always beginning with what if—that voice of worry that sits around a big table of thoughts and tries to shout the loudest and often gets our attention. And I tried to show that this happens to a lot of people as well. It's just the what-if is different. So, for some people, it's, “What if this intrusive thought is true?” For some people, it's, “What if I have a panic attack?” For some people, it's, “What if this catastrophe I've been ruminating on for so long happens?” For therapists, it's, “What if the worst thing that happens here, even in the therapy room?”  I'm an anxiety therapist that has been through anxiety, and I still get anxiety because I'm human. So, I celebrate these voices as well. Also, because I'm human, I can be critical almost always of myself in the book. So, I'm not just criticizing the people I'm working with. Absolutely not. But that voice comes in, and it's about balancing it and showing the work and what a lot of training to be a therapist is. It's about choosing the voice. And I didn't realize how much training to be a therapist actually helps me live day-to-day. Actually, I'm more rational when making more life decisions because I can choose to observe each voice, which was integral to me overcoming an anxiety disorder, as well as just facing life's challenges every day. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE A THERAPIST?  Kimberley: Right. Because we're really today talking a lot about what it's ACTUALLY like to be a therapist—and I emphasize the word ‘actually'—what is it actually like to be a therapist, if we were to be really honest? Joshua: One thing I mentioned is that I talk about the therapeutic hour, which is how long, Kimberley? Kimberley: Fifty minutes. Joshua: Yeah. The therapy took out and I explained what we do in the 10 minutes that we have between clients on a busy day. And people imagine us doing meditation or grounding ourselves or reflecting or whatever. Sometimes I do do that. Sometimes I just scroll Reddit, look at memes, eat candy, and do nothing. And it's different each time. That's what I'm doing. I'm not some mystic sage in my office, sitting sinisterly under the lamplight waiting for you to come in. No, I'm usually faffing around, panicking, checking that I don't look like a scruff, putting a brush through my hair, trying to hide the stains of food I've got on my shirt because I overzealously consume my lunch.  And there's obviously some funny stories in there, but also there's dark stuff in there as well. When I trained to be a therapist, I went through grief, and I made some quite unethical decisions back when I was training. Not the ones I'm proud of, but it actually shows the serious side of mental health and that a lot of therapists become therapists because of their own journeys. And I know that that applies to a lot of therapists I know. Kimberley: For sure. I have to tell a story. A few months ago—I'm a member of lots of these therapist Facebook groups—one of the therapists asked a question and said, “Tell me a little bit what your hour looks like before you see a client. What's your routine or your procedure pre-clients?” And all these people were saying, “I journal and I meditate and all of these things.” Some people were like, “I water the plants and I get my laptop open.” And I just posted a meme of someone who's pushing all the crap off my table and screeching into the computer screen and being like sitting up straight. And all of these people responded like, “Thank God,” because all the therapists were beautifully saying, and I just came in here honestly, “Sometimes I literally sit down, open the laptop, and it is a mess. But I can in that moment be like, ‘Take a breath,' and be like, ‘Tell me how you're doing.'” Like you said, how does that end? We start the therapeutic hour. And I think that we have to normalize therapists being that kind of person. Joshua: Definitely. I think one of the barriers to people seeking therapy is that power dynamic, that age-old trope that someone stood leaning against a mahogany bookcase. You've probably got a mahogany bookcase. Your practice is really nice. I certainly have. I've got an Ikea KALLAX unit full of books I've never read.  Kimberley: Exactly. Your books aren't organized by color because mine are not. Joshua: No, no. There's just some filler books in there. Just like, why is Catcher in the Rye? Why is Catcher in the Rye? I don't know, I just put it on there. I just want to look clever. Anyway, it's like people are afraid of that power dynamic of some authority figure going in there about to judge them, mind-read them, shame them, or analyze them. And no, I think dispelling that myth by showing how human we are can challenge that power dynamic. It certainly did for me. I would much rather open up to someone who isn't showing the pretense that they have all of life together. Don't get me wrong, professionalism is essential, but someone who's professional and human, because going to therapy is some of the most human experiences you'll ever do. I don't want someone who isn't showing too scared to show that sign or certain elements of being human, but obviously professionally. And it's a fine balance to get. But when you do find a therapist like that, for me personally, one who's knowledgeable, compassionate, empathetic, has humility, I think beautiful things can happen. Kimberley: Yeah. I think you use the word that I exactly was thinking of, which is, it's such a balancing act to, as a therapist, honor your own humanity from a place of compassion. Like, yeah, we're not going to have it all together and it's not going to be perfect, and we won't say the right thing all the time. But at the same time, be thoughtful and have the skills and the supervision to balance it so that you are showing up really professional and from that clinical perspective.  DO THERAPISTS GET CONSULTATION?  Tell me a little bit about consultation as a clinician. I know for me, I require a lot of consultation for cases, not because I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm always going to be honest with the fact that maybe I'm seeing it from a perspective that I hadn't thought of yet. What are your thoughts on that kind of topic? Joshua: Therapy's got to work for both people as well, because the therapeutic connection, I believe, is one of the drivers that promotes therapeutic growth and change. It promotes trust. I will consult with clients and my supervisor and make sure it's right. I'm not everyone's cup of tea, but for people, particularly with anxiety disorders, I think they like to know and come to therapy. I think I've used self-disclosure on my public platforms tastefully in the sense that I know what it's like to have gone through an anxiety disorder, whether it's OCD or panic disorder or agoraphobia, and come out the other side.  But also, it's balancing that with, “Actually, I'm your therapist here. I will help you in a therapeutic setting and use my training.” You know I'm not someone who's got everything worked out, but you do know that someone who can relate that can step into your frame of reference, something I talk about a lot in the book frame of reference and empathy. If you feel like a therapist has done that and is in your frame of reference and it's like, “Ah, yeah, they get it or they're at least trying,” and we as therapists feel like there's a connection there too on a professional and therapeutic level, I think magic can happen. And I love therapy for that. Not all therapy is great and beautiful and wonderful. Some of it is messy, and some of it just doesn't work sometimes. And I do talk about that too, but it's about when you get that intricate dance and match between therapist and client, I think it's life-changing. WHAT TYPE OF PERSON DO YOU NEED TO BE TO BECOME AN ANXIETY THERAPIST? Kimberley: Yeah. What do you think about the type of person you would have to be to be an anxiety specialist, especially if you're doing exposure and response prevention? The reason I ask that is I have a private practice in California. I have eight clinicians that work for me. Almost every time I have a position that's open, and when I'm interviewing people to come on to my team, I would say 60% come in, and they're good to go. They're like, “I want to do this. I love the idea of exposure therapy.” But there is often 40% who say, “I'm not cut out for this work. This is not how I was trained. It's not how I think about things.” After I've explained to them what we do and the success rate and the science behind it, they clearly say, “This isn't for me.” What are your thoughts about what it takes or what kind of person it takes to be an anxiety specialist? Joshua: That's a great question. First of all, you've got to trust and believe in the modality that you're trained in. You and I use the principles a lot of cognitive behavioral therapy and exposure response prevention. I've got first-hand experience of that. You've got to trust the science and what we know about human biology, which is really important. It's about what you're trading in that modality. What I talk about -- again, see how I'm segueing it back to the book. Brilliant. I've done my media training, Kim. It's like, “Always go back to the book. Come on, Josh.” One of my favorite chapters in the book is explaining about modalities because a lot of people just think therapy is one big world where you see a therapist, they wave a magic wand, you feel better, and suddenly our parents love us again. No, that's not how it works.  Kimberley: It's not? DIFFERENT TYPES OF ANXIETY THERAPISTS Joshua: No, it's not. Mental health has different presentations, and a modality is a school of thought that approaches difficulties in mental health. So, the first modality I go to is person-centered, which is counseling skills, listening, empathy, unconditional positive regard.  The Carl Rogers way of thinking—I think I love that. Is that good for OCD, intrusive thoughts, exposure therapy, and phobias? Not really. It's nice to have a base of that because there's more chance of a therapist being understanding, stepping in your frame of reference, and supporting you through that modality. But I wouldn't say it's equipped for that.  Whereas in CBT, a lot of it is psychoeducation, which I love. And that's a different modality. Cognitive behavioral sciences, whether it's third wave, when you're looking at acceptance commitment, where are you looking at exposure response prevention. There's lots of song and dance about I-CBT at the moment and things like that. They're all different modalities and skills of thought.  Then you've got psychodynamic, which is the mahogany bookcase, lie on the sofa, let's play word association. Oh yeah, you want to sleep with your mom, Josh? No, I don't. That's nothing to do with why I keep having panic attacks in the supermarket. Stop judging me. But that's a different type of approach. Jungian approach can be quite insightful, but it's got to match what the presentation is for you.  I think CBT is my favorite, but it sucks for stuff like grief. When I was grieving, I did not want CBT. I did not want my grief formulated. I did not want to see that my behaviors were perpetuating discomfort. I was like, “Yeah, that's just part of my grieving process.” And in this chapter, I just talk about the different modalities. Therapists are very passionate about the modality of the school that they train in because you have to give part of yourself to it. You have to go through it yourself. And I'm very passionate about the modalities I'm trained in. And so, I play on this in the book. There's a chapter called The Younger Games or The Yunger Games, a play on words. And basically, it's once-a-year therapists from every modality, whether it's hypnotherapy, transactional analysis, CBT, person-centered, the trauma-informed. All of these, they all meet up in a field, and we all fight to the death. And the last remaining person is crowned the one true modality. Now last year, it was hypnotherapy. And what I also say is that a betting tip for next year is the trauma-informed. So, every year, I'll keep you updated on The Yunger Games. And basically, it's a narrative device to explain that.  Within the world of therapy, there are different types of therapists. You and I, we love CBT. We'll bang the drum for that. We feel that there's not enough ERP out there that certainly isn't, particularly with the evidence and the points towards it and mountains of evidence. But other therapists may not feel the same. So, when people come to work at CBT School and they realize that Dumbledore, aka Kim Quinlan, is like, “No, we do ERP here; we've got to get down and dirty and do the horrible work,” they're like, “That's not conducive to the softer step-back approach that I've trained in, in my modality.” Kimberley: Yeah. I'm always so happy that they just are honest with me. I remember as an intern at OCD Center in Los Angeles very clearly saying, “Are you okay talking about really very sexual, very, very graphic topics?” He listed off. Like, “Here is what you're going to need to be able to talk about very clearly with a very straight face. You can't have a wincing look on your face when you talk about intrusive, violent sexual thoughts. You're going to have to be up for the game.” And I think that was a big thing for me. But what I think is really cool about your book, and you see now I'm bringing it back to your book, is it doesn't mean the voice isn't in your head sometimes questioning you. As I was reading it, I'm like, there is an imposter in therapists all the time saying, like you said, the critic that's like, “You don't know what you're doing. You're a failure. You're a flake. You're a complete fraud. You haven't got it together. Maybe you haven't even worked on the thing yourself yet.” That's going to be there. Joshua: Yeah, and I still get that. I can't speak for you. But I think what makes a good therapist is a therapist who self-doubts. You don't want to go and see a therapist who thinks that they've got it all worked out. That's a red flag in itself. A good therapist is one that always wants to improve and uses that doubt and anxiety to make themselves a better therapist. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty confident in my ability to be a therapist now, but there are challenges. In the book, the voices that come up, there's 13 of them. One of them is escapist, which is, “I just want to get the hell out of you,” or “Maybe I want to get rid of this client. I'm not equipped for it.” And then the other voices come in and they're like, “But maybe this is just you being critical,” or “The evidence suggests that actually you are trained for this,” and navigating that doubt, the anxiety that your therapist has. And I think it's a beautiful thing.  A lot of therapists are very harsh on themselves, but I think it's a gift to have that inner critic. Because if you stand there like one of these therapists, and these therapists do exist, unfortunately, I have completed all my training. I know everything inside out. My word is gospel. I worked out what the problem was with this person within 10 minutes. You don't want to talk to that person. What a close-minded moron. And there's a judgmental voice from a therapist. Kimberley: No, but I think that's informed. Joshua: So, it celebrates the vulnerability. You want a therapist who's not got everything worked out. Absolutely. I do anyway. Kimberley: Yeah, for sure. I'm wondering, how often have you had to work through your own shit in the room with a client? Meaning—I'll give you a personal example—the very first time I ever experienced derealization for myself was with a client, and I was sitting across from them. They were just talking, and all of a sudden, I had this shift, like everything wasn't real. Their head looked enormous and their body looked tiny. Like they were this tiny little bobbly head thing on the couch. And I knew what was happening. Thankfully, I knew what it was like. I knew what it was. Otherwise, I probably would have panicked, but I had to spend the rest of the session being as level and mindful as I could as I watched their head just bubble around in this disproportionate way. I got through it. I can say confidently I think I pulled it off really well, but it was hard. And I left the session being like, “What the heck just happened?” Has there been any experiences for you like that? Joshua: Yeah, all the time. I mean, first of all, I'd question if you did have derealization. I was your client with a giant head and a tiny body. I was like, “What's going on here?” There wasn't derealization. That's my body, Kim. Kimberley: No, that's just how I look, Kimberley.  Joshua: It's just how I look.  Kimberley: “Stop judging.” Joshua: But in general, no, it's true. And again, one of the voices in my book, And How Does That Make You Feel?, it's called trigger because therapists, they have to give a lot of themselves and they're living a life and have had stuff in their past. One of the voices is trigger. One of the things I get asked a lot is, I don't know about you, Kim, “If you've had anxiety, how can you work with it all day?” I'm like, “Because I'm all right with it. It's okay now.” Sometimes it creeps in, though, if I'm tired or have not slept well. There's stress in my personal life that you can't avoid. Maybe I've not eaten too well. Maybe it's just ongoing things. Sometimes trigger can happen, and it can be a stress-induced trigger or it could be a literal trigger from a traumatic event.  So, in the book, I explain when people bring grief and death, that sometimes makes me feel vulnerable because of my own experiences with grief and death. No spoilers, but the book throughout, one of the themes is why I became a therapist. Not only because of my passion for anxiety disorders and to be self-righteous around other therapists, train different modalities, but also because it's a very grief-informed decision to want to help people.  And there's several traumatic stories. One traumatic story around grief, that trigger, the voice of trigger will come up. So, a client could be talking about their life, like, “I've lost this person; I'm going to talk about it.” And of all these 13 voices around the table, what your therapist is thinking, trigger then shouts loudest. It goes, “Ah, trigger.” There's some pain that you've not felt for a while and I've got to navigate it. You navigated the derealization, the dissociation. You've got to navigate it somehow by pulling on the other voices. And not only do therapists do this, but people do this as well sometimes, whether you've got to be professional or you don't want to turn up to your friend's birthday and just listen to trigger and anxiety and start crying all over your friend's birthday cake. You might do. It's quite funny, but not funny.  Kimberley: I was going to say, what's wrong with that?  Joshua: Have you done it again? I thought you stopped that.  Kimberley: Yeah. You haven't done that?  Joshua: It's part of the interview at CBT School. You need to do really hard, tricky things. Go to your best friend's birthday and make it all about you.  Kimberley: Exactly. Joshua: But yeah, it's one of those. It crops up. The book's funny a lot, but it's good. It takes some really serious turns, and it shows you a lot of stuff can creep in and how I deal with it as a therapist. And I'm sure you related to it as well, Kim, because we do the same job, but you just do it in a sunnier climate. SEEING CLIENTS IN PUBLIC  Kimberley: Right. What I can say, and this will be the last thing that I point out, is you also address the awkwardness of being a therapist, seeing your clients in public and the awkwardness of that, or the, “Oh crap, I know this person from somewhere.” Again, no trigger. I don't want to give the fun parts of the book, but as a therapist, particularly as someone who does exposure therapy, I might go across the road and take a client to have coffee because they've got to do exposures. We very often do see people, our clients, our friends in our work. How much does that impact the work that you do? Joshua: If you ever bump into your therapist, just know that you have all the power there. Your therapist is squirming inside, “I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know. Do I completely blank this person?” But then I look like a dick. “Do I give a subtle nod? Oh, you're breaking confidentiality. They're out with loved ones.” It's up to you. You can put your therapist out of their misery by just saying, “Hey, Kim.” “Hey, Josh.” And then I will say hi back because that shows that you're okay with that.  There is a very extreme shocking version of this story, of this incident in the book where, when I'm at my lowest, I do bump into a previous client. On a night out, when I'm off my face on alcohol. Oh, if you want to find out more about that... Media training's really paid off. Get him on the hip.  Kimberley: I didn't want to give it all away, and you just did. Joshua: No, no, not giving any more away. A media training woman said, “Entice them, then leave it, because then they're more likely to read it.” So, I have listened to that media woman because my previous tactic of just begging and screaming into a camera doesn't work. It's like... Kimberley: But going back exactly—going back, we are squirming. I think that is true that there is a squirm factor there when you see clients, and it happens quite regularly for me. But I think I've come to overcome that by really disclosing ahead of time. Like if I see you outside, you're in the place of power, you decide what to do, and I'll just follow your suit. It's a squirm factor, though. Joshua: See, that's clever, good therapy stuff because you do it all part of the contracting and stuff. Actually, I told all my clients this is okay. But also, when you're a new therapist or sometimes you forget, you're like, “Oh no.” I used to run a music night in Manchester as part thing I did on the side. Enjoy it, love music, I was the host. One week I was on holiday, so a friend organized all the lineup of people to come down. Headline Act was a band name. Went along, and when I'm there, I'm having fun. I've got whiskey in my hand. I'm walking around telling irreverent, horrible jokes. No one in there would guess I was a therapist because I'm having fun and I'm entitled to a life outside the therapy room.  What I didn't know was that the Headline Act was a current client, and they'd just arrived dead late. They didn't know, and they walked on stage, and I looked. It's something that they've gone on publicly to talk about, so this is why I'm saying it now. I got permission to use it because they said it publicly on the radio and stuff like that. And we just looked at each other. It was like, “Oh my God.” And I stood there with this. I was like, “Oh my God.” And I've said all this bad language and cracking jokes, roasting people in the audience, my friends usually. And it's like, yeah, I was squirming.  So, at this point, I did just pretend I didn't know them because it was the best I could do. And they got me out of trouble. They were obviously confident in performance mode. And they got onto mic and was like, “Can you believe that guy is my therapist?” And I was like, “What?” I was like, “Wow.” And then he said some really lovely things. And it wasn't really awkward in therapy. If anything, it was quite something we laughed about in therapy afterwards, and it contributed to it. But yeah, the horror I felt. Oh, I felt sick, and oh. I don't want to think about it. FINAL CONCLUSIONS Kimberley: I want to be respectful of time. Of course, before you share this all about you and where people can get a hold of you and learn about your book, is there anything you want to say final point about what it's like to actually be an anxiety therapist? Joshua: It's the best job in the world for me. It's the best job in the world. All my friends and family go, “I don't care how you can do that.” I love it. I get to have the most human conversations with people without judgment. You mentioned before about intrusive thoughts. I've got the magic guitar in this room, and we make songs about horrible intrusive thoughts. There was one the other day about kicking babies down the stairs. You can't say that out loud. Yes, we do in here, to the three chords of the guitar I only know, particularly postpartum mothers.  Kimberley: You told me we couldn't sing today.  Joshua: No, I'm not singing. Kimberley: I wanted to sing today, and now you're telling me we can't sing. Joshua: I don't think it's going to be Christmas number one—a three-chord banger about harming loved ones or sexual intrusive thoughts—but you never know. Yeah, it's the most beautiful job. Kimberley: I am known to sing intrusive thoughts to happy birthday songs. Joshua: That's a good one. I have to close my window though in my office because I do get scared that people walk past and like, “Wow, that's a very disturbed man.” No, he's not. I'm confident in the powers of ERP and how it can help. Kimberley: You are. I love it. Josh, tell us where we can hear more about your book and learn more about you. Joshua: I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known as AnxietyJosh on social media and stuff. The book is called And How Does That Make You Feel?: Everything You (N)ever Wanted to Know About Therapy. It follows the stories of the four client case studies, obviously highly scrambled and anonymized, and gone through a rigorous ethical process there. So, don't be like, “He's talking about his clients.” No, that's not what the book's about. It's about appearing in behind the therapy room door. It's out in the US before the UK, which is here. I don't know if anyone's watching or whatever, but there it is. And it's also been commissioned to be a television show for major streaming services. We don't know which one yet, but it's exciting.  Go get yourself a copy. It should be in your bookstore. Get it at Barnes & Noble and all the other US ones. And I think you'll really enjoy it. So, it's a really lovely endorsement. Kim has also said it's really good, and Kim is harsh. So, if Kim says it's good, then it's going to be good. And I hope you really enjoy it and pass it on to a loved one who doesn't have anxiety, and you'll find that, “Oh, I actually learned quite a lot there whilst laughing and being captivated by the absolute bananas behind-the-scenes life of being a therapist.” Kimberley: Yeah, I love it. Josh, the way that you present it, if I was scared to go to therapy, I think it would make me less scared. I think it would make me feel like this is something I could do. Joshua: And that's the best compliment I can receive, because that's why I wrote the book. So, thank you so much. Kimberley: Yeah. So fun to have you. Thanks for being here. Joshua: Thanks, Kim.