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In this heartfelt and empowering episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with Kelley Hartman to explore the transformative power of joy in retreat leadership. Kelley shares how a life-changing diversity retreat in her twenties sparked her passion for holding space and eventually led her to create her own retreats focused on joy, self-care, and aligned leadership. Together, Shannon and Kelley dive deep into why joy is not just a nice-to-have, but a non-negotiable for any retreat leader who wants to avoid burnout and truly support others. They get candid about energy management, setting boundaries, and honoring your nervous system—especially when life throws challenges your way. Whether you're a seasoned retreat host or dreaming of starting your first one, this episode reminds you that when you prioritize your own joy and well-being, you elevate the experience for everyone you serve.   Offerings from Kelley: Free 4 Step Outline to reset into joy: https://kelley-hartman.mykajabi.com/wildhartscollectivejoyresetsignup    Connect with Kelley: https://wildhartscollective.com/   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify   --------------------------------------------------- Automatically Transcribed With Podsqueeze Speaker 1 00:00:00  Welcome to the Retreat Leaders podcast, your sanctuary with retreat experts. Where we spill the tea on retreat. Success. Here we dive into crafting transformational guest experiences. Talk about how to avoid pitfalls and unlock marketing secrets. Whether you're a seasoned guru or a budding enthusiast, we've got the inside scoop for you. Join us as we learn how to flourish in this magical world of retreats. Hey guys, welcome to or welcome back to the Retreat Leader's podcast. It's Shannon and today I have such a special guest, although I have to preface it by saying this is not as fun as France because my guest is someone that I met while I was in France, and we were just saying right before we recorded that it was such a magical group and I missed that energy so, so very much. But I'm really excited to see you today. Kelly, welcome to the show. Speaker 2 00:00:54  Thank you. Very excited to be here. Speaker 1 00:00:58  Yes. So Kelly Hartmann and I are going to talk about something that probably seems a little bit like. Speaker 1 00:01:04  Wait a minute, Shannon, why are you talking about this? But I actually feel like it's super, super important for us as retreat leaders and what we do and how we serve. And it's just a very, very important aspect of our leadership. But before we dig into the topic, Kelly, just tell us about who you are and what brought you to where you are today. Speaker 2 00:01:22  Great. Yeah. So I'm Kelly Hartman and I own Wild Hearts Collective, and I am a retreat leader. So the journey there is a little bit of a long one. I went to my first retreat in my 20s, and what really sparked my lifelong desire to host retreats was the amount of transformation that happens when you're on retreat. I met people there that I still connect with today, and that's 25 years later. and basically just learning the personal lived journeys needs of everyone there is what was life changing for me. It was a diversity retreat and it was getting that individual perspective. So when I hit 45, I said, I'm going to do what I wanted to do my whole life. Speaker 2 00:02:11  I'm going to host retreats. And I was also in corporate. I already host leadership trainings. I created Elevate Her, I host the global mentorship program and did a lot of trainings and learning and development for corporate women. So I'm taking that out of practice and doing it and hosting retreats of my dreams. So that is why I started. Speaker 1 00:02:36  Yay! You know what I love about this is that over 20 years ago, you had the spark and you're bringing it to fruition. And I think sometimes people, whether you're 40, 50, 60, 70, it doesn't even matter whatever your age is. But women, especially whatever that number is, that age in our head and we're like, yeah, I'm too old to do this now, you know? And I just, I call bullshit on that because there isn't an age that's too old. There just isn't. Okay. There isn't. And so, Kelly, I'm so, so glad that you were following your dreams now. And you're hosting these retreats because. Speaker 1 00:03:16  Yeah, I met Kelly in France, as I mentioned, and her energy is yummy. Like, I just cannot even put it into proper words. And so spending time with her on retreat, I'm sure, would be a joy, which is exactly what we're going to talk about today, because Kelly and I in France, we were talking about some of the things that might be missing from a retreat leader's life, as far as you know, being the best version of them. And one of those things is focusing on joy. So, Kelly, can you just kind of talk to us a little bit more about this? Speaker 2 00:03:50  Oh for sure. So as a retreat leader, you are facilitating the transformation of others on your retreat. And when you're doing that, that is having a requirement for you to hold space. And a lot of times, especially right now. Everything is so the world is messy and it's heavy. And every five seconds there's breaking news about something. And what that does is that triggers our nervous system to go into fight or flight. Speaker 2 00:04:22  And it makes all of this anxiety and worry and fear come into our energetic field and build up in us. And when we have all this heaviness and fear and anxiety and we dysregulated our nervous system, that is what causes us to basically not be able to hold that space. As retreat leaders, we need to know how to step out of the grind, to step out of burnout to start with self-care so that we when we show up on retreat, we are the best version of ourselves. And that's when we talk about anchoring into joy. Because what is joy and what is required for you to actually experience joy? You have to feel safe, right? You have to feel your nervous system has to feel good for you to even get to experience joy. And once you get there, that is when expansiveness comes. That is when you're in flow. That is when you can give and pour into other people's cups. Speaker 1 00:05:37  Hey, retreat leaders, pause that retreat planning for just a second because I've got something you do not want to miss. Speaker 1 00:05:42  I'm headed to London this October to host a live event that's all about teaching you how to host a retreat that's not just transformational, but actually profitable. Imagine sipping tea or champagne with other like minded leaders while mapping out your next sold out retreat. It's happening at the gorgeous Waldorf Hilton in London. I'm spilling all the secrets from pricing to planning, marketing to mindset, and you'll walk away with a strategy you can actually use. No fluff, no BS, just results. So head to Retreat mastermind and come join me across the pond. Okay, I love this on so many levels. You are right, the world is messy. That's a really good way of putting it. I think the world's always messy, but it just feels extra loud. You know, at the moment. we've definitely in our lifetime, Kelly, we have seen some extra loud moments. probably. Maybe. You know, I'm sure more than previous decades. Only in the sense even that it's just so damn accessible. Too accessible in some ways. Speaker 1 00:06:43  Yeah. But yes, that and also I want to piggyback on this because as Kelly knows, this last month has been really very difficult for me. I've had some losses and and when we're in those spaces, whether it's heaviness from the world and our nervous system is disruptive or very personalized heaviness and we're disrupted. I think it's important that we remember that's not the time to create when we're in that space, when we're in that space of full disruption, full nervous system panic, whatever you want to call it. That's not the time to reach out. That's as far as reaching out to your, marketing efforts or your creation efforts or whatever may be the case. Maybe that's when you rely on a team member and you're like, hey, I need you to step up for me, or you hire it out for that moment, or you just take a break. But it's like, we need to honor that. There are times in life we're going to push, right? We're going to push through things. Speaker 1 00:07:38  You know, you stub your toe, push through it, whatever. But there are also times when your nervous system is telling you, okay, we we can't we can't go on. You know what I'm saying? Speaker 2 00:07:48  Yes. And it's so important that we learn to honor that in ourselves, because we have to learn how that we can honor that in our participants and see that and help them through that. In a lot of times, especially in the world right now, it's the hustle bustle. We got to go. We're we're women entrepreneurs, right? So we have a lot of big goals, a lot of big dreams. And I know that we hustle a lot. We're always kind of like, I gotta get this done and do that. And we don't take or make the space always to breathe, to anchor in, to return to our body out of our mind. And that causes those cortisol levels to rise, the anxiety, the panic. And it takes a toll on your physical and mental health and is so important for us to listen to our body, to rest like you said, to take a break and rest and recalibrate Because we're able to come back stronger than before. Speaker 2 00:08:48  It's so important. Speaker 1 00:08:51  Yeah. This is such a good reminder to me sometimes I forget. And I think many of our listeners forget that it doesn't always have to be pushed through it. It reminds me when I used to have my private practice for mental health. If I sat with a particularly heavy session with a client, I had to work really hard to reset myself so I didn't take it into the next session. It wouldn't be fair to that next patient for me to bring the previous patient's heaviness to them, right? And it's the same aspect here, Kelly, especially for those of us who are holding space. I'm just going to say it. You really should not be bringing your heaviness into the space that other people are trying to share their heaviness. It's just not appropriate. I know people are listening, are going to disagree with me. They're going to think, well, that's a safe space for everybody to do it. You know what? Yes, but not for the leader. The leader has to do their own processing, their own leaning in, their own resetting. Speaker 1 00:09:44  Separate. It really is. That is not the time and space for you to bring your heaviness in. It really alludes the whole point of a retreat for the guests that are paying to participate with you as a leader. It's okay to say, hey, I'm experiencing heaviness today. We're going to start our workshop a little bit later and then you do your thing. I'm not saying that you're going to show up and pretend like everything's okay. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, you're not bringing your shit into the same space that everybody else is trying to hold their heaviness or share their stuff, and, and I just I'm super passionate about that. And this is a really good reminder for myself as well. Speaker 2 00:10:23  100%. And that's and this is what I definitely want to talk about that this is not toxic positivity. This is not you should be enjoy every single day. And if you're not, enjoy it because that's bullshit. That is total bullshit. What this is, is that this is a reminder that we have tools and that to use those tools to really listen to your body and recalibrate your energy. Speaker 2 00:10:46  You own your experience on this planet, and when you choose to be a retreat leader, you're choosing to guide others and help them in their experience. And it's absolutely correct. You need to go in able to facilitate transformation. If you're in your own shit, you can't facilitate that transformation. You just you have to deal with that first. And having those tools to reset into joy, into calibrate to that is huge. It allows you to be expansive. It allows you to hold energy and space for others and allow them on their journey for transformation. Speaker 1 00:11:23  Yes. Thank you for this topic. I think it's so very important, and it's just one of those things that's often overlooked. as I shared, things have been really heavy with me, and one of the decisions that I made this August, I was having my retreat leader mastermind, and I'm actually Rescheduling it because it's just not the right time for me to hold space for others because I'm bringing my shit with me. And so I'm super transparent about that and making sure that, you know, I'm making decisions that are sound for my body and safe for me, but also for my guests. Speaker 1 00:11:58  I am still having my alumni retreat. for those that don't know what that is, is every other year, sometimes three years, but usually every other year, I host a retreat that's just for alumni. That means they've been on my retreat before. They know exactly who I am and what's going on. And I had a real heart to heart with myself and the group, and they are well aware of what I'm going through. And this is just a party. It's just a gathering. There's no transformation, there's no promise. There's no holding space necessarily. We're just coming together to celebrate. And we're all very excited about it. And I'm actually excited about it. My alumni retreat, because I just I feel safe with them just as much as they feel safe with me. And it's, you know, there's there's just a really good, And, it's just a really good vibe with this group and it's just going to be so fun. But I've really honored. The thing that I've put forth that I'm saying is I'm not creating anything in this time. Speaker 1 00:12:48  In this time. This time of my own heaviness. It's not fair to the people who might be receiving receiving it, but also they're not going to receive the, the, the my true heart right now. They're going to receive my broken heart or my grief heart or my guilt heart or whatever it is that I'm feeling inside. That's what they're going to receive. And that's not that's not representative who who I am. And so whether it's big like the world or like loss or anything like that, or whether it's just you struggle with sadness sometimes or you struggle with whatever, you know, or you've got, you know, difficulties in an important relationship, whatever that that is, you've got to lean into that and not bring it with you into your transformative spaces. And I think you, you know, you, Kelly especially, you offer tools and thoughts on how you can maybe tune out of that darkness. Speaker 2 00:13:42  Yes. Yeah, because we do have those. And first I want to say, thank you for sharing that and being vulnerable because you're setting an example and telling people that it's okay to pivot. Speaker 2 00:13:55  you know, when I work with women, both inside and outside of corporate, there's a lot of fear about, perception or quote unquote feeling, which is such bullshit. Sorry. But in that if we don't do things the way that we thought, if we don't, if we pivot, that's a failure. But you are actually doing something amazing for both you and the attendees and doing it in a space that will be transformative for them and bringing your best self when you can. So that's that's setting a huge example for everyone. And that's just amazing. So thank you for sharing that. Speaker 1 00:14:34  Hey, it's Shannon here. I'm just popping in really quickly to ask a big favor. Would you pause the show and go review it for us, please? Reviews really help us to be able to get more guests and more experts on the show to help you transform your retreats. So if you wouldn't mind pausing and leaving us a review, that would mean everything. And if you're not already subscribed, do that too. Speaker 1 00:14:56  Yeah. No, absolutely I, I really I. My, my motto is to try to walk the talk. And so what I teach I really I really do want to walk and I it was a really hard message to send to the attendees for August. and it was really it's been really hard, even for those that keep inquiring about it. but also feels right. It's hard, you know, the hard that feels right. That's what this is. This is the hard that feels right. And so I want my thing was, especially I had this conversation with an attendee who was really disappointed. But my thing was I want to show up and give my best self. I don't want to bring this and set it on your plate. or or do a half ass, you know, retreat for you. That's just not okay. And so anyway, so yeah, I feel really good about it. As hard as it is, I don't feel good about it. I feel good that the decision was the right decision to make. Speaker 1 00:15:52  just like I feel good that spending time with my retreat alumni who are coming tomorrow and I can't wait to see them. feels also very good, because I know that that's not going to require me holding space necessarily. My team can do it if that needs to be happening, but most my alumni retreats, I'm just going to be honest. It's just a party. It's a girl party. Speaker 2 00:16:11  That's awesome. So, so. And that is what we talk about a lot right now. And what I do is I gather the women we're gathering, the women gathering women in circles is so important and amazing. and just that space. But again, it's that that awesome and just radical honesty that you have, that this is what this experience is. It's not a retreat. It's a party. And that is. Yeah, that's exactly what will be expected of attendees. And they're excited to see you. They've already been through that transformation with you. And they they understand. So that is totally amazing. Speaker 1 00:16:48  Yes. Speaker 1 00:16:49  Yeah it really is. And plus the outpouring of love from them has been just beautiful. So, well Kelly, tell us, like if somebody wants to spend more time with you because I think that they would benefit from it greatly. Tell me some of the offerings that you currently have. Speaker 2 00:17:03  Sure. So I am hosting a retreat in September called Joy as Revolution and we are taking, this experience is amazing because it's allowing people to experience joy in different ways. So joy isn't always this exciting, passionate, like, oh, I'm in joy. I take everyone through the four elements. so how do you feel in Earth as you're experiencing joy. And that's a grounded joy of feeling stable or air. How does air feel? That's going to be light and that's doing breathwork and feeling alive. Or if you look at fire, fire is that passion. That's the creativity. So that's doing art, that's dancing, that's, you know, yelling at the moon, that fiery. And then last is water. Speaker 2 00:17:52  And that's when you're in flow and you let go of the things that we hold so deep. So the transformation that's coming there and what I specialize in, and that's with all of my offerings, is getting you out of your head and into your body. Your body knows. And you talked about that you felt into your decisions about both retreats. Your intuition told you what was right and you listened. And what I see so much in women is we ignore intuition because societal expectations tell us No. You should push through this. You should act a certain way. We have these expectations of how you show up and how you act. So I specialize in getting women to get into their bodies so they can transform and listen and learn and feel. And then they trust their intuition. And that is when the magic happens. Speaker 1 00:18:50  Oh, yes. Thank you. And may I have another I love this so much. And I will have Kelly's website linked in the show notes. So that way you can go check out her offerings. Speaker 1 00:19:00  And I think you even have a free gift for our listeners. Do you want to tell us a little bit about the free gift? Speaker 2 00:19:05  Yeah, it's my four tips to a joy reset. So it's exactly that. It's just an easy little thing that you can do really quickly. It has, some reprogramming and I'm certified. So it just is something that helps you get out of the loops that we have, those thought loops or anxiety or fear and gets you into your body so you can anchor into joy and you can visualize your best self and live as that self. And it's under five minutes. So really easy little quick thing. Speaker 1 00:19:34  Yay. Well that will also be linked in the show notes. So Kelly, thank you so much for coming on the show and just reminding us of what we need to be really focusing on as effective leaders in our industry, rather than just the metrics or social media or the right offering or the right workshop or all of these things that we think are super important and they are important to a certain degree. Speaker 1 00:19:58  But really, it all starts with our inner joy. So thank you so much, Kelly, for being on the show. Speaker 2 00:20:05  Oh, thank you so much, Shannon. I greatly appreciate it. Speaker 1 00:20:08  Thanks for listening to the Retreat Leaders podcast. Learn more at the Retreat. Com. See you next time.

In this candid episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail sits down with Pilates studio owner and retreat host Misty Chambers to unpack the highs and lows of her first-ever retreat. From a surprise challenge with a sick guest to navigating meal budgets in the Champagne region of France, Misty shares everything she wishes she had known—and what she'll absolutely do differently next time. They talk about the importance of having personal space as a retreat leader, hiring a retreat coordinator, setting realistic expectations around meals, and most importantly: why retreat leaders must sell, not just market, their experiences. This is an honest, refreshing conversation that every retreat leader—especially those in their early retreat-hosting days—will deeply relate to.   Connect with Misty: www.breatheriveroaks.com   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Full Transcript  Automatically Transcribed With Podsqueeze Speaker 1 00:00:00  Welcome to the Retreat Leaders podcast, your sanctuary with retreat experts. Where we spill the tea on retreat success. Here we dive into crafting transformational guest experiences. Talk about how to avoid pitfalls and unlock marketing secrets. Whether you're a seasoned guru or a budding enthusiast, we've got the inside scoop for you. Join us as we learn how to flourish in this magical world of retreats. Hey guys, welcome to or welcome back to the Retreat Leaders Podcast. It's Shannon and I'm super excited to have a guest today. That is another Fellow of France Retreat member. I met her in France and fell in love with her and her energy, and I'm super excited to have her on the show because she's going to be super vulnerable with us. Y'all. and share with us something that a lot of retreat leaders hesitate to share about, or they just don't even want to talk about it sometimes, or they make it sound different than it was. And that is learning through our first retreat and how we would want to do it maybe differently. Speaker 1 00:01:01  And just we're going to go dig right into it. So welcome, Misty to the show. Thank you. I'm excited to be here. I'm so excited to see your face again. It's not the same as France, but I am glad to see your face. before we get started into this topic, just tell us a little bit about who you are and, you know, give us a little bit of a taste of what? What makes Misty. Misty. Yeah. So my name is Misty chambers. I live in Houston, Texas and have a brick and mortar Pilates studio there. I have been in the movement industry, most of my life. started off, teaching dance and then got into yoga and pilates and, along the way, I've done interior design and, and now retreats. So, I've kind of had a, a long little detour of things that have gotten to me where I am now. And, So, yeah, it's a little bit about me. I think all of us have that to some degree. Speaker 1 00:02:07  If I talked about all the different hats that I've worn until I got to the space. And it's funny because all the hats I have worn helped me in the space that I am in today. And I think that just is kind of how it is. So, so Misty, you just recently had your very first retreat, you hosted your very first retreat. You were actually when you left us in France, you were headed to host your retreat. And. Exactly. Yeah. Through that process, we kind of all you were keeping us all in the loop during this retreat on Voxer. And my heart was like, oh, my poor Misty, because I feel like the universe was showing you, like all the things that could possibly make you cranky about hosting a retreat. It was definitely a learning experience. Yes, but part of what we're going to talk about is a lot of times, retreat leaders think that their first retreat is like going to be that that. Speaker 2 00:03:02  Oh, all. Speaker 1 00:03:03  You know, like this is it. Speaker 1 00:03:04  This is exactly how it's going to be. I'm so excited. You know, there might have been 1 or 2 things, but, you know, this is it. And it's like, that's not always the case. As a matter of fact, I would say more often than not, after you host your first retreat, you're like, first of all, do I even want to keep doing this? Second of all, how can I, you know, change all these different things? And so anyway, Misty, let's just start off with maybe your very first thing that you were like, okay, this is what happened and this is what I plan to do differently in the future. Sure. And to feed off of what you said a second ago, I don't know if you got if you remember in the box or chat. after the retreat, I was like, I don't know if I'm cut out for this. I don't know if I want to host another retreat because I had such a challenging time with this one. Speaker 1 00:03:53  And, I think one of the things that made it so difficult is that one of one of my guest was ill, and she was very challenging to deal with because she did not feel good. She was not, nice to me. She wasn't nice to her tour guide. She we stayed at a hotel. She was not nice to the hotel staff, and it just made the energy very low. And like, we were walking on eggshells. And I one of the the first things in dealing with that, I would say that I have learned is that I don't want to stay at the same place, like I did. we we were staying at the same hotel. I, in fact, was just two doors down from, this woman. And I would want to hole up in my room when we were not doing anything because I didn't want to, you know, I needed some downtime to myself. And so, one lesson learned is that I think I would, stay either at another hotel or make sure that I was in a room in a different part of the hotel. Speaker 1 00:05:05  If you're or if you're doing a retreat venue staying offsite. just to give yourself a little bit of decompression time. yeah. So I love this. Before we keep digging in, I realized we didn't really share kind of what what your retreats entail. And so you're misty. You focus primarily on travel and culture experiences. And I remember when you and I talked, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is my jam. Like, it's it's not a travel guide. It's like a travel guide on steroids, right? I don't even I don't even like using the word travel guide. It's it's an experience that you're providing, you know, where it's got all elements of the retreat, what would be considered a retreat. It just doesn't have maybe a retreat transformation at the end so much as an immersion in this really cool place space, you know, and so anyway, so it includes, you know, lots of different aspects of it, the excursions and exploring and the meals and conversations. But it's just, you know. Speaker 1 00:06:08  It's a it's a travel and culture immersion. So I just I wanted to clarify that. So that way people are like, well, what were you doing in a hotel? Because not everybody does retreats in hotels. Some, some people do. and I also love that you said, because this is something that I talk about all the time when it comes to hosting retreats is retreat. Leaders have to have a separate space, at minimum, a completely separate room. Right? Because I've had I've seen retreat leaders where they're sharing rooms in co shared spaces, like with their retreat guests. And I just do not think that's a good idea. So at minimum you have to have a separate room like here on the ranch. It's a whole separate building at the back of the property. It's the retreat leader's apartment. They have their own own little kitchenette, even, like it's just a space where they can kind of, regroup, reset, retreat themselves. So that way they can show up as their best selves. Speaker 1 00:06:55  So I'm really glad that you said that. And then there are retreat leaders like Aaron, who's who. We met each other through where she even stays off site. So she might be a few houses down from the house or the venue that she's using, or whatever may be the case, so she can completely decompress and she's got someone on point like Matt, which I think Matt was her retreat coordinator, which I think was one of the points that you were going to make to Misty is having a retreat coordinator, right? Yes. Again, because I had a guest that was ill. I was having to, manage her, like finding a doctor. her husband also came. they wanted an extra room so they didn't have to sleep in the same room since she was sick. So just navigating all these, different, things that were unexpected. We also had to pivot the activities that we were doing. Now, I did have a tour guide that I had for three days during the retreat. she was local there, and, she was fantastic and did help with, the pivoting of the activities and stuff. Speaker 1 00:08:09  But it would have been helpful had I had, you know, some like Daysha Danzy or Matt Quinonez, who I hope I said his name correctly and right. Who, who, does this retreat coordination. That can be your point of contact, who can handle all those things so that you can be fully present for your other guests and not take time away trying to juggle all these, pivots. Hey, retreat leaders, pause that retreat planning for just a second, because I've got something you do not want to miss. I'm headed to London this October to host a live event that's all about teaching you how to host a retreat that's not just transformational, but actually profitable. Imagine sipping tea or champagne with other like minded leaders while mapping out your next sold out retreat. It's happening at the gorgeous Waldorf Hilton in London. I'm spilling all the secrets, from pricing to planning, marketing. To mindset. And you'll walk away with a strategy you can actually use. No fluff, no BS, just results. So head to Retreat Mastermind and come join me across the pond. Speaker 1 00:09:20  You know I'm glad. Yes, this is so important. I had daysha on the show a few episodes ago. If you haven't listened to that episode, you got to dig into it. It's she's an incredible retreat coordinator. It is so critical that you have an on point person who takes all of these things on because Misty, as you've probably know and felt every single time this person would come at you with some of the thing they needed or whatever, it would just totally hit your nervous system and your whole body. And then to continue to try to hold space and and stay light and joyful and excited about the experience is really hard. Where if you have a point person on site who is the one that is the first stop for everything that's needed, every issue that comes up, everything that's needed, that's the first stop. And then if they can't handle something, then yeah, they can come to you and say, hey, Misty, I'm not clear where I should go with this direction. Fine. Speaker 1 00:10:07  But there should be a first stop person. So thank you for bringing that up because I think that that's so under underutilized underrated not talked about enough. And so yes. Thank you. So. So lesson one was you know staying away from your guests, having your own space to retreat to and, you know, decompress and just reset. And then lesson number two is having a retreat coordinator or assistant on site to help you. What other types of lessons did you learn? So, since we were staying at a hotel and not at a retreat venue, I did not have a chef on site, so we were eating out at all of our meals at different restaurants. We had, two meals that we did at the hotel. Most of the meals that we did were like, the menus were the prefix menus, but on the occasions where they weren't, I found myself going over the allotted budget that I had had per person. while I tried to, we were in the champagne region, so of course there was a lot of champagne, being consumed. Speaker 1 00:11:17  So I would try to order a bottle to help mitigate, you know, the different, amount of glasses that might be, ordered, but, you know, I couldn't predict what people were going to order for their meals. And while I tried to look at the menus ahead of time and tried to guesstimate a good budget per person, I felt like every time that we went out to eat, I was, blowing my budget a little bit. So I think having, an agreement with the restaurant beforehand, having a preset menu, these are the things that you can choose from, would definitely be helpful. Or, you know, allotting a budget, like if you're having the meal at the hotel, you know, giving, a certain amount of credit towards meals. but, just going out to dinner and, you know, I was including all meals, in the retreat and maybe giving some free time for them to go to dinner on their own would also be helpful. Hey, it's Shannon here. I'm just popping in really quickly to ask a big favor. Speaker 1 00:12:30  Would you pause the show and go review it for us, please? Reviews really help us to be able to get more guests and more experts on the show to help you transform your retreats. So if you wouldn't mind pausing and leaving us a review, that would mean everything. And if you're not already subscribed, do that too. I love that option that they could have, you know, a meal on their own in this cultural experience. I think that that would be a great option, but especially just having the preset, you know, just a preset. This is this is where you can order from. And if you want to order off of this, that's fine, but that'll be at your, your expense. being super clear. But Misty, you know, considering that you had never done this. I don't know that somebody would have thought of that, because you did look at the menus and you estimated and you, you know, you were prepared as much as you could be until you experience it. Speaker 1 00:13:21  And this is why I always say, like, you really won't know until you do. You know what I mean? Like you, we can plan and we can guess and we can do all the things. And that's good. That's a good start, you know? But until you do it, like your first time doing it, that's when you'll see like, oh, my budget was a little off here. Or oh, I didn't even think about this could happen. What would I do in the future? You know, so so again, this is just another thing that, you know, you won't you won't know everything until you do it. And even when you do it, Misty, there's still going to be times if you decide to do it again. There's going to be times where you're like, well, shit, I didn't think of that either, you know? And that just that just happens over time as you start to accumulate these experiences and these, just things that will come up and and be able to plan for those things. Speaker 1 00:14:12  So anyway, what else? so my other lesson, which I have heard many times from Aaron, and then also more recently Dora Rankin, was not to just market your retreat, but to sell the retreat. And I think I did a great job putting all the beautiful marketing and all the wonderful things that we were going to be doing, and it got people to say, oh, wow, that sounds like a great experience. But that's all I was doing was marketing. I did not ask for the sale, and that's very challenging for me. so definitely lesson learned. And I know that that's something that I need to work on and get more confident at doing, but people aren't just going to come because you put out pretty post and it looks amazing. So, definitely ask for the cell. You know, this is such a big one. Missed this for retreat leaders who've been doing it for years and years. They're still not necessarily doing that part of it, which is why I'm so glad I also had Dora on the show to talk about the difference between marketing and selling. Speaker 1 00:15:33  And if you are an entrepreneur, really, we're all selling, but especially if you're an entrepreneur, you're also a sales person. Like this is part of it. And you're right. Marketing isn't selling. Marketing's attracting, but it's not selling. And so I'm so proud of you for talking about that. And in general, Misty, thank you so much for being vulnerable and sharing, you know, your lessons, but also the fact that you were super, super like upfront saying, I don't know, you know, if I want to do this again, I, you know, like that's, that's a real thing and maybe you just need some time to like, release some of the, let's just be honest. Trauma of it. To release some of that trauma and then get reignited with your passion and your why and and what it could look like, and knowing that some of the quote unquote worst has already happened. Right. I mean, really, it has. And so because I don't want you to give up, because I want to come on one of your retreats. Speaker 1 00:16:30  Like you're speaking my language when it comes to travel and cultural experiences. I just think that that is, it's something that's so needed and it's such a beautiful thing. And not to mention that your energy is absolutely perfect for it, so I wouldn't want you to give up, but I also would want you to do it with your whole heart. So I don't know. What are you thinking? Where are you at today? So now that it has been, a few weeks since my return from a very challenging time, and have given it some more thought, I do want to continue. And in fact, I do want this to be a more a cultural Role travel experience. that will be unique and fun. And, I'm already looking at planning my next one. I'm hoping that it will be in New York, in December. A little Christmas, Christmas trip. So, I'm in the process of, hopefully trying to get that together, and I've got a few other ideas in mind for 2026, so we'll stay tuned for that. Speaker 1 00:17:42  So I'm not giving up yet. Good, good. That makes me so, so happy I really don't. And some people may just not want to stick around that long, but I really don't think you truly, truly know until your third one. And I know that sounds funny. Like why the third one? Well, the first one. You're almost just like a deer in headlights. No matter how much you work with Aaron, who's amazing. You work with Dora, who's amazing. Like they gave you a good framework and they're continuing to do so, but they're not the one hosting, right? Your first one you are. And so it's just like that kind of deer in headlights first one. And then you were happened to be blessed with a lot of challenges in your first one. Right. So but anyway, the first one is just like the deer in the headlights. The second one is like, okay, I'm getting traction. I figured out some things that I feel did not work. Speaker 1 00:18:30  I've learned some lessons, and you're kind of like, okay with this new mindset, but it's really like your third one that you're like, you've you've pretty much fine tuned who you want to be, who you want to be there with you, what your message is, what the experience is going to feel like for you and your guests. Like it's really fine tuned by your third one. And that's when you know, in my opinion, you're like, yes, this is what I want to do. Or you're like, nope, I want to be a guest on retreats instead instead of this. And so, like, I really don't feel like, you know, to your third one. So I'm really happy that you are. You're going for it again. And if people want to find out about your retreats that are going to be coming up. How can they find you? So they can find me on my website, which is breathe River oaks.com/retreats. And, you know, I figure at this point I can only go up from here. Speaker 1 00:19:30  I agree, Misty. I agree. listen, I if we, we should have a whole show about all the things that we've learned. I hate saying the word wrong because it just it isn't wrong. It just is what it is. And it's just a learning experience. But I have had some doozies in my life. Misty in my retreat life of of guests that were in pain and lashing out. physical issues of, you know, altercations. I have had some, some things. And so let me just tell you that that's okay. Like, it really is. Okay. It's part of the learning experience. And, it makes us so much better at what we do. It makes us so much better at holding space. And it is so true. It can only go up from this one. Misty, because you did have quite a few challenges. But I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you for keeping your head up through it all. You were texting us and you were super receptive and, and honestly, at the end of the day, you have such a beautiful heart. Speaker 1 00:20:27  So I'm really, really glad that you're going to continue doing this. Thank you. Shannon. Yes, I'm so excited. So all of her information will be in the show notes. Please go give Misty some love. Check out her retreats. But if anything, just give her some love and encouragement. Because we've all been there in our lives or careers where we're like, is this what I want to do? You know? Am I in the right space? And so it just feels good to be supported and loved. So misty. I'm so proud of you and I can't wait to see what you create. Thanks, Shannon. Thanks for having me. Thanks for listening to the Retreat Leaders podcast. Learn more at the Retreat. See you next time.

In this episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail is joined by social media strategist and author Robin Nathaniel (@robbinmarx) to dig into what it really takes to build a retreat brand that thrives online—without having to chase every trend. Robin brings two decades of experience in social media and shares how to focus on authentic, audience-focused content that stands out in an AI-driven world. From aligning your content with your brand's voice to Robin's powerful SYNC framework (Simple, Yield, Natural, Change), this episode is packed with gems for retreat leaders who want to grow their impact without burning out online. They also discuss: The myth of “going viral” and why it's overrated How to identify your content bandwidth and platform sweet spot Why “100% human-made” content is gaining new value The power of speaking directly to your audience like a best friend A sneak peek into Robin's Social Media Sync Bundle, made just for you! Grab your free Social Media Sync Bundle from Robin: landthetalk.com Connect with Robin: Website: https://robinnathaniel.com/   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify   -------- Full Transcript Automatically Transcribed With Podsqueeze Speaker 1 00:00:00  Welcome to the Retreat Leaders podcast, your sanctuary with retreat experts. Where we spill the tea on retreat success. Here we dive into crafting transformational guest experiences. Talk about how to avoid pitfalls and unlock marketing secrets. Whether you're a seasoned guru or a budding enthusiast, we've got the inside scoop for you. Join us as we learn how to flourish in this magical world of retreats. Hey guys, welcome to or welcome back to The Retreat Leader's podcast. I'm excited because I have another amazing guest today in. My guest is going to be talking about something that I think 99.999% of the people who are in our space think it's one of the most important aspects of marketing and growing your retreat business. And I would agree with you, although I also think email is important, but we are going to talk about social media. And so welcome, Robin Nathaniel to the show. Speaker 2 00:00:54  Thank you so much for having me, Shannon. I'm pumped to talk to your audience about social media, and I'm confident that they'll walk away with some value today. Speaker 1 00:01:03  That's fantastic. Robin, why don't you just first start off by telling us a little bit about who you are and what brought you to this space that you're in now. Speaker 2 00:01:10  Yep. So I started my career off in music. I was a performer as well as an event organiser and a producer. And then in 2010, I had my first child, my, my, my son. And when he was born, I was like, I need to get a job. So I switched gears and joined the non-profit field, and I moved up in non-profit leadership. And then the pandemic hit. When the pandemic hit, me and my family left our busy life in New York City to move down to the green pastures of the Atlanta area. And I reset and, shifted from my career in nonprofit leadership to finally take a hold of my marketing, career, which I have a degree in which I had been doing social media since the days of Myspace and Friendster and just led me down this path of social media leadership. Speaker 2 00:01:59  Now I lead a small team for local government with social media, and I also have an independent boutique agency where we support mission driven organizations and nonprofit with social media solutions. Speaker 1 00:02:09  Oh my goodness. I love so much about this, and I love that you've been in the industry for as long as you have, because and I think it even said it on your website somewhere when I was doing some research, like it's, it's not heard of for someone to be in the social media space for over 20 years. So how have you hung on this long? I have to know. Speaker 2 00:02:30  First of all, it's just like interest, right? So me getting into social media early, I got to see the beginning with sites like Friendster and Myspace, even six degrees before that. Right? And what I found was the power of being able to communicate with people in another place with a push of a button just blew me away, and I knew that there was going to be something there, so I just had a general interest for it. Speaker 2 00:02:55  I think when I started getting into it on an academic level because I was an adult learner for college and I had to like write papers around social, do research. It just opened my mind on a whole, on a whole nother level. And I believe that's what separates me from other people in the industry. And if people read my book, they'll see some of my philosophies kind of butt heads with what the quote unquote gurus are saying in the space. I have some conflicting messages and we'll talk more about it, but generally it's just the love for being able to impact people all over the world. Speaker 1 00:03:29  Okay, well, I'm glad that you are here, and I'm glad that you're in this space and that you've been in this space for this long. I have been a user since the Myspace days. I did start in marketing when Facebook first became kind of like to me, it seemed like the very first real engine of social media marketing. This is well over ten years ago. And so I've been marketing in the the social media space since then. Speaker 1 00:03:55  However, it has been hard as hell for me to keep up. I'll just be honest with you. The algorithms change. The expectations change. The rules change what works. Change is a new platforms on the horizon, you know. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, there's so many moving parts now. Compared to when I used to just spend 100 bucks on Facebook and get a really good return. And so keeping up has got to be something I don't know. That's its own beast. Speaker 2 00:04:20  It really is. And I and one thing that I mentioned early on in my book is that I work in this space, right? Like literally I wake up in the morning at 5 a.m. and I'm all, I'm all social media until I lay down right and I can't keep up. So don't feel bad. Just know that it moves so fast. And especially with the, the rise of AI, it's just increasing the pace of the, the growth and and and this the platform changes. So that's why in my teaching and in my philosophy, I focus on a concept that I call algorithm proof content instead of people becoming, you know, essentially slaves to what the platforms are doing or liking. Speaker 2 00:05:01  Just focusing on human connection through their content and creating strong, intentional relationships with their audience. Speaker 1 00:05:09  Okay, now you're speaking my language. So let's let's dig into it. Let's talk about some strategies. Did you want to start there with this algorithm proof concept or or talk to me. What do you want to start with. Speaker 2 00:05:19  Yeah we can start with algorithm proof content. So one thing that I found in all of my years in social is that folks are glued to what the next big thing is. For example, years ago when Snapchat first came out, people were hyped about Snapchat and then Instagram totally stole their model, which they often do, right? And then they created stories and then everyone shifted the stories. So what I felt like is that essentially we're on this seesaw. Whichever way it's going, we're going to slide to that end. And when the weight shifts, we slide with it. And what happens is you get seasick. You're like you. You know, like we're overwhelmed. We're confused. Speaker 2 00:06:02  We don't know which way to go. And we're just back and forth on this social media seesaw, if you will. And what I found is that staying in the center and identifying the fact that the one unique proposition value proposition that you will have in whatever business you do, whether it's organizing retreats or whether you sell donuts, is you is the person behind the brand, the the the person who fuels the wheels. And if we can lean into that and really find a way to communicate directly with our ideal target audience, that we create algorithm proof content, regardless of the platform, regardless of the medium. You can write it, you can videotape it, you can take a picture of it. It's still going to be authentically you. Speaker 1 00:06:48  So you are speaking my language on so many fronts. The first one really being just being you. Like, don't try to be someone else. Don't try to copy this thing that looks really good or is doing really well. Don't try to follow just all the trends in the whatever. Speaker 1 00:07:03  Like you can use some of this information, but it has to be authentically you. It has to have your voice, your spin, your whatever. So I love that. And then in conjunction with that, making sure that it is speaking to your ideal audience, you know, like I can't tell you how many times someone's like, oh, I did this post and it's really, really good. And I look at it, I'm like, it has nothing to do with your business at all. Like, you're doing it on socks and you're over here trying to sell, you know, mental health strategies or whatever. And so it has to be directed directly to your target audience. It has to be authentic to you. And I love that. That is like the whole concept behind algorithm proof, because you're right. If you're speaking to your people, like literally someone who's looking, looking, listening, watching, whatever, if they're feeling like, man, she or he is speaking directly to me, it doesn't matter what the algorithm is doing, right? Speaker 2 00:07:54  It really doesn't. Speaker 2 00:07:55  And I and I and I have a quick story to share with you. So I got on TikTok in 2020 and I had some success, and it kind of led to my independent boutique agency. I had a couple of videos go viral. Both videos had over 2 million views. But like you said, the videos weren't necessarily aligned with my mission. My, the the videos weren't necessarily speaking directly to my ideal target audience member. And essentially the, the the videos were just vanity metrics, right? They got me a lot of followers. They got me a bunch of views. Flip the other, flip that coin. And on the other side of that coin, I did a video on Facebook a few years later, I want to say it had 500 views, Shannon 500 views, and it was basically me sharing one of my signature frameworks. I got a call or I got a message I should say that led to a call that led to a long term client that that generated tons of revenue for my business. Speaker 2 00:08:56  So the point is. Vanity metrics and chasing views, likes and the surface level performance metrics is not where we are in this era as I can. Continues to evolve. Human connection is going to be valued more than anything else. There's going to be a time where the way you go to a fair or a, you know, a craft fair and you go around the tables and it's like, you, you sold that together. Yeah. It was human made, I made it. It's made by me, the creator. The content will be the same way. Shannon. Mark my words. People will stamp 100% human made and it's going to have a premium value. So that's why I'm leaning into people or or encouraging people to lean into the human aspect of content creation and social media in general. Speaker 1 00:09:44  Oh my gosh, I, I had to mute myself, but I could almost fall off my chair when you're like, it's going to be stamped human made because you are so right. You're so right. Speaker 1 00:09:55  That is where we're headed right now. And it's getting easier and easier to spot AI. And we'll just call it sometimes IBS all over the place. And people are going to be like, they're done. They're over that. Scroll on, keep going. Tune it out. They're going to be looking specifically for human made content. Human made everything. And so I love that so much. Talk to me about what other strategies retreat leaders should be considering. maybe these are strategies that you've shared in your book that they should be considering when they're trying to grow their audience and grow their business. Speaker 2 00:10:27  I think for retreat leaders, and again, I'm grateful to be on your platform, Shannon, because, this is an audience that I don't get to speak too often, but I've had some, life changing experiences at retreats. So for that reason, I'm really grateful for this opportunity. It really depends on what part of their journey they're on. So let's speak to the retreat leader who is not on social, is fearing social, has some trepidation around even starting like the journey. Speaker 2 00:10:54  What I would encourage them to do is to first start with identifying their bandwidth. That's the first step. I think oftentimes when people say, you got to get on social media, we open an account on every single platform. We, we, we fire up Canva, we create images for everyone and we just let it rip. Right? While that is social media, that's not strategy, and I don't think it's the best use of your resources. Right. So I would first identify your your your bandwidth. Is it going to be you. Is it going to be somebody on your team? How much of our time for our marketing contributions can we commit to this? And as we go into 2026, I will also as a ninja trick just right now, as you're if you're working on preparing budgets for next year, you should really prioritize align for social media. So whether you bring in a team to help you, a consultant and strategists like myself, or if you empower somebody on your team. So that's the first step, is just figure out who's going to do it and how much time can they spend to it? Spend, spend on it. Speaker 2 00:11:54  Next you want to clearly identify your ideal audience member. So we talked about it earlier. customer avatars. There's so many terms around ideal viewer, just the person that you want to speak to in your content. And I know what people are going to think. Well, Robin, if I speak to one person, how will I? I'm going to miss out on so many other people. It's a common concern that people, people have. One thing that I've seen is that when people speak to one ideal audience member in their content, especially smaller organizations who have like one, set of people that they're speaking to, the other people will get attracted. So even if you're speaking to Jane, 29, who lives in Ohio, Jimmy, 35, is her husband, and he'll hear you and listen to you, too. So that's the next thing. Identify your ideal, target audience member. So stop me at any point. Shannon, I'm going to kind of push through this. Speaker 1 00:12:45  So you're speaking my language. Speaker 2 00:12:48  So third step after you know your bandwidth, you know your ideal audience member. The third step. Now, what you want to really lean into is where your people are. Let's go and let's do some market research. Where are our folks hanging out? If you have an existing audience. Do a survey, send out an email, blast. Send out mailers. Whatever you do to communicate with your audience. Get on the phone. Even if it's 10 to 15 people, to do a small little experiment to find out where people are. Now here's where people sometimes get confused. Let's say all of your people are on Facebook, but now you have a intern who only knows how to use TikTok. So now you need to decide, do you want to teach this person how to operate on Facebook? Or do you want to start off on TikTok? Because having a person on your team who is equipped to actually do it is an important part of it. I lean towards going where the audiences, and if you want to do a balance of starting with two platforms, if you have someone who's skilled on another platform besides your audience's preference, then that's something you can consider as well. Speaker 2 00:13:55  So now you know where you're going to be. You know who's going to do it and you know who you're speaking to. The next step is really figuring out the medium that the the person or that, that team member is comfortable with. Is it writing? Maybe if it's writing, you should focus on LinkedIn content. Maybe you should focus on Twitter. or X threads, maybe blue sky. If it's video, maybe you have a founder that's extremely comfortable on camera, like Shannon here. Maybe you shoot a long form podcast episode and then cut up the clips and create video content. Maybe you have a skillful photographer on your team, or a graphic designer that you can maybe use that content on a platform like Instagram or even X, Twitter or LinkedIn. So identify where your strengths are and then decide on the medium. And another ninja trick. Do not sign up or do not get active on every single platform, just pick one. Just start with one. Because what happens is people get burnt out there. Speaker 2 00:14:58  They're trying to use social media management tools. If you want to reserve your handles on all of the platforms, that's okay. Put a profile picture, put a bio and put your flag in the ground. But pour your energy into the platform where your team member who's or leading this charge is comfortable and you have skills in that medium. And then the last step. Let it rip. Double down and triple down when things work well. If you have a photo post that goes off. Lean into that. If you have a video post that does well. Lean into that, but continue to experiment and just continue to contribute the energy, time, and space into this opportunity. Speaker 1 00:15:40  Hey, retreat leaders, pause that retreat planning for just a second because I've got something you do not want to miss. I'm headed to London this October to host a live event that's all about teaching you how to host a retreat that's not just transformational, but actually profitable. Imagine sipping tea or champagne with other like minded leaders while mapping out your next sold out retreat. Speaker 1 00:16:02  It's happening at the gorgeous Waldorf Hilton in London. I'm spilling all the secrets from pricing to planning, marketing to mindset, and you'll walk away with a strategy you can actually use. No fluff, no BS, just results. So head to Retreat mastermind and come join me across the pond. Okay, I love unpacking all of this. This is such good stuff. A couple of things that I heard, especially when you talk about like your bandwidth, like how much you know, time and energy are you able to dedicate to this? Because there's so like you said, there's so many people out there like you have to post ten times a day, you have to post 20 stories. You know, there's just all of this stuff and you could should yourself to death in this, this realm, right. In the social media realm, you could shoot yourself to death, but it really comes down to what's the bandwidth that you are going to deliver high quality, targeted, unique, authentic information. And if that's once a week and it's good shit, okay, go after it. Speaker 1 00:17:04  You know, like just really understanding what your bandwidth is. On the flip side, I do love the fact of having some sort of consistency, and only because the social media platforms love some sort of consistency. They do like consistency. The algorithms may change, but they really no matter what. I think all of the algorithms are always going to like some sort of consistency. So consider that when you're when you're thinking about your bandwidth. And I do think, Robyn, people just need to hire it out if they don't have it, if you don't have the bandwidth, you've got to hire it out. If you if you think you can not have social media and grow your business in today's world, man, I don't want to tell you you can't. But holy shitballs, you're making it so much harder for yourself unless you already have some sort of giant following from way back when. Social media has got to be part of your your your your marketing. It just does. So whether it's you or hiring it out or whatever. Speaker 1 00:17:58  I also love what you said about whoever's doing it. Where are where is their strength, right? Is it written or is it a video? Is it pictures? Is it graphics then? I love that so much. You don't have to do all the things right. It could just be where's the strength? The only key thing that I would say that I really focus on is if you're going to pick a platform, pick the one where your audience is. You know what I mean? Like, most of my audience is in Facebook. They just are like for my retreats, not necessarily for the Retreat Leaders podcast. Believe it or not, a lot of them are on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook. But if I had to pick out of all of them, I would probably be more Instagram. But my retreat guests who attend my retreats, they're on Facebook, right? And so where are your people? And man, all you have to do is a quick chat GPT or Google search and say, here's my target audience and describe that one person to the T. Speaker 1 00:18:54  You know, what's their age, what's their gender, what's their religion, if any? What's I mean, I mean, describe them down to a T and then ask, where do they hang out the most in social media? Where does this demographic hang out the most? And that's what you go after. And I mean, like you said, double down, triple down, quadruple down, like nail it on that one platform. What's your thoughts? Speaker 2 00:19:16  I love all of that. And I and I agree with you totally. I do want to just, piggyback off of, the idea of, you know, picking the platform and using. I, I get a bad rap because some of my, my philosophies appear to be anti AI, and I'm not. I use AI every day, and in my book I'm constantly going through it like I'm not an AI hater. Please. Like, like, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to hate on AI because I'm not. So I think that if you don't have any access to audience right now, that that is a great suggestion for people to just put it in the chat. Speaker 2 00:19:56  GPT and, try to get some results there. Speaker 1 00:19:59  Yeah, I'm, I'm super pro I, but I'm pro I with your voice. And all I mean by that is I feed the information into AI and then ask for ideas or spin offs or adjustments or give me something that I haven't looked at or whatever. So like, like I mentioned like give AI all the information and then ask AI based on this, where are my people hanging out at? If you don't already have an audience and you don't already know where they are? Yes, I totally agree with you. But I also use AI every day. It is getting you know, I know we're going off subject, but AI is one of those things where it's like either you're going to use it or you're going to be behind. At some point. It just is going to happen. And I don't think AI is going to replace people, but it's going to replace people who are not using AI, if you know what I'm saying. Like, it's there's a difference, like AI is going to be your tool and it will replace people who don't use AI, is what I mean. Speaker 1 00:20:51  So? So anyway, so yeah, I'm a big believer in all of that. Talk to me more about your book. Tell me what people can hear about or find in your book. Like why does someone need your book? Because it sounds like they do. Speaker 2 00:21:01  Yes. So I gave a Ted talk back in 2024, and when I got off of the stage, I knew that I wanted to write a book. I just didn't know what the book would be. And then some things happened. I had some, personal issues come up, and it kind of went on the back burner, Shannon and I, and I was like, I guess I'll just do it when I do it. I went on a podcast, talk to a gentleman that really just spoke to my soul, like he was asking me questions about my mom, my brother, just all of these deep questions. And I'm ready to, like, talk social media, right. And like, literally was bringing a tear to my eye in this interview. Speaker 2 00:21:37  And when I left the interview, I said, I have to finish the book, I have to I took all of my ideas, doubled down, talk to my wife, got her blessing, wrote in the morning, wrote in the evening, narrated and recorded in the car. Sent it to an editor and it used the framework from my talk, which I think is poetic because the talk is really about in person interactions, where this is the version for digital interactions, and really it's built on my sync framework. And what sync is, is basically a framework that we can use to build intentional human connections online. So S is for simple. Oftentimes online people want to be the smartest person in the chat room, right? Like, oh, the dexterity of the physicality of like dude. Like just just tell me it's rough around the edges. Right? and simple is really that, that that concept of boiling something down to make it super easy for people to receive and consume. Y is for yield to your intentions. Speaker 2 00:22:44  It's all about being intentional. Before you start writing, before you start taking pictures, before you start filming a video. Thinking about what do I want? How do I want people to feel, and what kind of action do I want people to take? And if you really want to be an overachiever, how can I do it in a positive light, right? Like, what kind of positive impact can I have on folks? n is for natural. Oftentimes people step into online spaces with corporate speak needing to sound as professional, as clean, as as clean as possible. It's okay to say y'all. If you say y'all, it's okay to say wanna w a n n a. If that's what you say when you speak a little, cheat sheet that I give people or trick that I give people is when you write a piece of content, especially when you're thinking about written, form content, read it back to yourself and ask yourself, would I say that if I was talking to my best friend? And when writing, try to write like you're writing to your best friend. Speaker 2 00:23:45  If you're if you look at your ideal audience member, target audience member as your best friend. That's a hack to like, write like you're writing to someone you love and you care about. And when you read it back, if it doesn't pass that test, you might need to go back to step one and make it a little more simple. And the last step is C for change it up online. We talked about the seesaw where we're just going with the flow. What did they what did Adam Mosseri from Instagram say. Oh we got to do stories. Let's do stories. No, no no reels okay. Let's go back to reels. And we're on this daggone hamster wheel of following the the trends of what the gurus are saying. What I would recommend is to change it up, listen to new voices, try new things. If everyone is zigging, try zagging and see what happens. If you always do written content, maybe change it up next month and try a couple of videos and that will give you the opportunity to give more flavors at your ice cream shop, and maybe folks will gravitate to one of those different styles of content. Speaker 2 00:24:48  And that's a quick and dirty breakdown of the sync method from my book Social Media Sync. Speaker 1 00:24:53  Hey, it's Shannon here. I'm just popping in really quickly to ask a big favor. Would you pause the show and go review it for us, please? Reviews really help us to be able to get more guests and more experts on the show to help you transform your retreats. So if you wouldn't mind pausing and leaving us a review, that would mean everything. And if you're not already subscribed, do that too. Heck yes. Oh my goodness, all of that stuff. I especially love the whole when you're writing and whether it's writing, talking or anything, do it like you're talking to your best friend. Oh my gosh, that should be the heart of all of the content that you deliver is like your best friend or someone that you love and care about. So. Yes, yes, yes. Well, we're going to wrap it up with you telling us about something that is for the audience. You have a little gift for the audience. Speaker 1 00:25:39  You want to tell them about that? Speaker 2 00:25:41  Yes, absolutely. So I was thinking about what I could do to provide you with next steps on where to go. If you're on your social media journey, especially if you're just starting out, and even if you've been in the social media, you know, world for a while and you've been putting out content for years, having a fresh perspective always helps. So what I created is what I'm calling my Social Media Sync bundle. What you get is two free eBooks. These are robust ebooks that give you a play by play of how to fine tune on social media and how to get started. But also, I'm going to give you a free preview of my book. It would mean the world to me if you took some time to check it out. I include a chapter. I also include the intro and a foreword. So you get like the intro of my book essentially, and you would also get onto my email list. So when when you sign up, all you have to do is reply to the email and I'll respond. Speaker 2 00:26:37  I'll respond to all of my emails. So you if you have a question about anything we talked about today, if you want to go deeper, just reach out to me directly. I'm accessible, approachable, and honestly, I would enjoy connecting with you. And to get all of that, the Social Media Sync bundle, all you have to do is visit land the talk.com land the talk com that's also the name of my podcast. Speaker 1 00:27:00  Heck yeah. That will all be in the show notes as well. So if you are driving and you're not able to grab it on the air, then just pause the show and grab it from the show notes. So Robin, thank you so much for being an incredible guest on the show and for your very valuable information on social media strategies. I really appreciate it. Speaker 2 00:27:18  And I appreciate you. And I just want to say, Shannon, you are an amazing host, and thank you for sharing a little bit of your life with me today. Speaker 1 00:27:24  Oh thank you. Thanks for listening to The Retreat Leader's podcast. Speaker 1 00:27:29  Learn more at the Retreat. See you next time.

In this fiery solo episode, Shannon Jamail gets real about a truth many retreat leaders need to hear: the biggest block in your retreat business isn't the economy—it's you. If you've ever said, “People just aren't spending right now,” or felt tempted to lower your prices just to fill spots—this one's for you. Shannon breaks down the mindset shift that will transform the way you sell your retreats and communicate their true value. She'll show you how to stop apologizing for your prices, own your worth, and confidently sell your retreat as the life-changing investment it is. Whether you're hosting your first retreat or scaling your next, this episode is your invitation to stop shrinking and start standing in your power. Tune in and get ready to ditch the discount mindset and step fully into the role of transformational leader.   Episode Highlights: Why the economy isn't the problem (and what is) How perceived value impacts retreat sales What it means to “sell the transformation, not the features” The #1 thing you need to shift before trying another promotion How to speak to your ideal client's soul—and not the bargain shopper's wallet   Read our full blog here: https://theretreatleadersplaybook.com/the-biggest-block-in-your-retreat-business-is-you-not-the-economy/     The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

In this solo episode, host Shannon Jamail gets fired up and shares exactly what it means to level up as a retreat leader—and why it goes way beyond fancy goodie bags or extra plush pillows in your yurt. Fresh off a transformative retreat teaching experience in France and actively learning from high-level masterminds like Genius Network, Shannon lays out how growth happens through mentorship, aligned community, and being in the right rooms. She also gets real about the flood of new "retreat coaches" in the industry—and why it's more important than ever to vet your mentors and follow leaders with lived experience, not just big promises. If you're ready to stop playing small and start treating your retreats like a real business (with profit, purpose, and power)—this episode is your loving wake-up call.   What You'll Learn: What “leveling up” really means in the retreat world Why who you surround yourself with determines your growth How Shannon's trip to France & Genius Network shifted her leadership A no-fluff truth bomb about BS in the retreat coaching industry How the Retreat Leader Membership can give you the support you've been missing Why treating retreats like a business (not a hobby) is non-negotiable for success     Favorite Quote: "You don't get to the next level by doing the same things and hanging with the same crowd." — Shannon Jamail Read our full blog here with this link   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

In this powerful solo episode, Shannon Jamail gets real about something every retreat leader will face: objections. Especially the most common one—“It's too expensive.” But before you spiral into discounting or self-doubt, Shannon shares a refreshing and aligned way to navigate objections with confidence, compassion, and curiosity. This episode is your permission slip to stop taking objections personally and start using them as powerful conversations rooted in leadership.   What You'll Learn: Why “it's too expensive” usually isn't about money The #1 thing NOT to do when someone hesitates to book Shannon's 3-part method to handle objections without losing your power: A Soft Place to Land A Point of Agreement Get Curious How to hold space for transformation (not fear) Why objections are opportunities in disguise   Favorite Quote: “Objections aren't stop signs. They're starting points.” — Shannon Jamail Read our full blog here: https://theretreatleadersplaybook.com/dealing-with-objections-as-a-retreat-leader/    The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Get ready for an incredibly inspiring on-location episode as Sam sits down with the phenomenal Shannon Jamail – multi-passionate entrepreneur, therapist, mentor, best-selling author, podcast host, and the visionary founder of Retreat Ranch, a breathtaking 46-acre retreat center just outside Austin, Texas. Recorded in one of the barns at the ranch, this conversation is a deep dive into the power of trusting those micro-nudges from the universe, following your gut even when it makes zero logical sense, and how to bring those gigantic visions on your heart to life.Shannon shares the incredible journey of how Retreat Ranch came to be – from an initial vision and a property in California that didn't vibrate, to finding raw Texas land that did, and building it into a haven for connection, joy, and transformation, one step at a time (even through a pandemic!). This episode is a goldmine for anyone dreaming of creating something bigger than themselves. Sam and Shannon explore why in-person retreats are so powerful for clarity (Sam shares how a $15k retreat led to a massive vision expansion!), the importance of stepping into your "discomfort zone" for growth, and how clearing your energetic "gunk" unlocks your intuitive abilities. If you need a reminder that big dreams are built with messy first steps and unwavering trust, this one's for you.

In this bold and enlightening episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail sits down with Dora Rankin, a business growth coach and sales strategist who isn't afraid to tell retreat leaders the hard truth: you're likely spending way too much time on marketing and not enough on sales. Dora breaks down the key differences between sales and marketing (hint: they are NOT the same thing!) and explains why retreat leaders should be spending at least 70% of their business-building time focused on actual sales activities. From connecting directly with potential guests to having powerful discovery calls, Dora shows us how marketing is just the invitation—sales is where the transformation (and the bookings) happen. She also dives into the 4 core styles of sales and how to identify which one fits your personality and business model best. Whether you're a seasoned retreat host or new to the game, this episode will flip your mindset, get you out of hiding behind pretty Instagram posts, and into real, aligned action that fills retreats. What You'll Learn: The difference between marketing and sales (and why that matters more than you think) Why most retreat leaders are spending their time backwards The 4 ways to sell (and which one fits YOU) How to confidently step into the sales process without feeling slimy or pushy Practical tips to rewire your mindset around visibility, outreach, and relationship-building   Connect with Dora Rankin: Website: https://dorarankin.com   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

In this powerhouse episode of The Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with luxury retreat designer and director Daesha Donze to talk all things logistics, style, and sanity-saving support for retreat hosts. If you've ever felt overwhelmed trying to juggle planning, hosting, and actually enjoying your own retreat—this episode is your permission slip to hand over the clipboard and reclaim your energy.  Episode Highlights: Why hiring a retreat planner or coordinator is a total game-changer (Spoiler: so you can finally enjoy your own retreat) How Daesha tailors each event to the host's brand, vibe, and clientele The difference between hosting and directing—and why you shouldn't do both A quick dive into Seller of Travel laws and how Daesha can legally book and sell travel worldwide Her high-touch services: VIP Planning Sessions, Done-for-You Planning, On-Site Coordination, and VIP Weekends Whether you're planning your first retreat or looking to level up your next luxury mastermind, Daesha's insights will leave you inspired (and ready to hand over the spreadsheets).

Alison engages in a deep conversation with her guest, Shannon Jamail, a best-selling author and retreat leader, about the profound nature of self-love and personal growth. They explore the distinction between superficial self-care and genuine self-compassion, examining how our inner dialogue shapes our self-worth.Shannon shares insights into the fears individuals face regarding retreats, emphasizing the importance of self-approval and the transformative impact of saying yes to oneself. They discuss the vital role retreats play in personal development, providing a space for emotional exploration and community building. This dialogue encourages listeners to reflect on their readiness for change and to embrace the journey of self-acceptance.HIGHLIGHTS:18:32 The Retreat Experience25:34 The Power of Transformationconnect with Shannon:Website | Facebook | InstagramSPONSOR:Cellev8Discount code: THEALISONK2024ALISON'S LINKS:Website | Facebook | Twitter | InstagramGET MY FREE 4 part Pop-up Podcast SeriesJOIN Borderless Hybrid Innovators FB GroupINNOVATION AVENUE: Fitness and Self-Care Revolution

In this powerful episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail welcomes trauma therapist and retreat coach Lesley Martin for a raw and insightful conversation about the emotional resilience and energetic boundaries required to lead transformational retreats. Lesley and Shannon dive deep into the often overlooked emotional toll retreat leaders face, especially when carrying their own unhealed trauma or managing the weight of participants' needs. They discuss how coaching and self-reflection can help retreat leaders grow beyond the therapy room, create healthier emotional boundaries, and avoid the path to burnout. You'll also get an inside look at Lesley's upcoming Morocco retreat for burned-out entrepreneurs, designed to help participants reset through cultural immersion, desert meditation, and intentional stillness in the Sahara. Episode Highlights: Why retreat leaders must address their own trauma to serve powerfully Energetic boundaries and grounding practices to prevent burnout Behind the scenes of Lesley's Morocco retreat: A transformational journey for service-based pros Coaching vs. therapy: When it's time to level up your personal growth Tools like Lesley's new digital workbook to reimagine what's possible Special offers for podcast listeners including a $200 discount on Lesley's upcoming retreat Whether you're navigating your own healing or simply want to hold space more effectively, this episode is filled with heartfelt wisdom, practical tools, and real talk about what it takes to lead (and live) with intention.   About Leslie Lesley is the coach, guide, and mentor for entrepreneurs and professionals who've been through trauma or adversity and now want to feel better and live more authentic and fulfilling lives. She helps empower people to change their lives for the better. Lesley brings over 20 years of knowledge and training as a holistic psychotherapist into her work to benefit her clients. Her approach is holistic, and she incorporates psychological, meditative, intuitive, and spiritual practices to help her clients heal, deepen their connection, and thrive.   She completed her Bachelor of Arts in Contemplative World Religions from Naropa University in Boulder, CO, and her Master of Arts in Mental Health Counseling from Medaille College. In 2021, Lesley completed a certification program in Life Coaching through The Life Coach School. Lesley is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in New York State and is the founder of WNY Holistic Counseling, A Whole-Person Approach to Therapy.  She is also the founder of Blue Lotus Soul Coaching, where she utilizes Life Coaching to help her clients live unencumbered, whole-hearted lives. She offers Akashic Records Readings, Trauma Clearing Sessions, Oracle Card Spreads, Psychotherapy Sessions, 1:1 Coaching Packages and unique Retreat Experiences.   Connect with Leslie https://lesleymartincoaching.com/    Free Gifts: $200 discount off the Sahara Soul Awakening Retreat if the participant mentions this episode: https://sahara-soul-awakening.myflodesk.com/  Possibility Pie workbook: https://sahara-soul-awakening.myflodesk.com/possibilitypie      The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

In this inspiring episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with journalist-turned-content-marketer and storytelling coach, Renee Frojo, to explore how powerful storytelling can transform your retreat business from “meh” to sold out. Renee shares her journey from the newsroom to coaching B2B and B2C entrepreneurs on connecting with their audience in the most human way possible—through story. After selling out her very first international retreat in Costa Rica using just stories and intention (not a massive follower count), she's now hosting her second retreat in Mexico City, and trust us—you'll want in on what she's teaching.

In this powerful episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail welcomes executive coach and consultant Adrian Koehler, a leadership expert with a bold approach rooted in emotional intelligence and unapologetic honesty. From "hugging the cactus" to "riding the elephant," Adrian shares what it really takes to lead high-impact retreats and teams—spoiler: it's not all good vibes and holding space. Episode Highlights: Leadership Beyond the Feel-Good: Adrian and Shannon break down why retreat leaders need more than intuition and good intentions—they need structure, clarity, and accountability. The Real Work of Alignment: Learn how to get your support team fully aligned with your retreat's vision, values, and promises so every attendee gets what they came for. Handling Conflict Like a Pro: Adrian shares his frameworks for navigating difficult conversations with empathy and precision—so you can be “hard on the problem, soft on the person.” Preventing the Parade of Horribles: Discover how addressing small issues early keeps your business relationships strong and your standards high. Empathy Meets Accountability: From venue problems to team tension, Adrian shows you how to approach challenges collaboratively while staying fiercely committed to your mission. Whether you're a seasoned retreat leader or building your first event, this episode will give you real-world tools to step into your role as a true leader—not just a space holder. About Adrian Adrian Koehler, the no-nonsense leadership engagement expert and Senior Partner at Take New  Ground, is the go-to guide for fast-moving leaders. Dedicated to breaking through barriers, he spends his time helping entrepreneurs and enterprise leaders cut through the noise and create transformative outcomes. Adrian coaches executives globally, encouraging authentic leadership and fostering courage for meaningful change. His passion for human performance has led him to diverse contexts, from Fortune 500 organizations to startups and healthcare, making Adrian a catalyst for real talk and impactful results. Adrian Koehler extends his influence beyond the boardroom as the co-host of "Raising The Bar" and "The Naked Leadership Podcast." Drawing on his background in philanthropy, ministry, activism, and medicine, he thrives in difficult conversations and engaging complexity, challenging listeners to live authentically. Currently residing in the heart of Hollywood, with his children Scout and Charli, Adrian is on a mission to inspire authentic leadership, urging individuals to raise the bar in both personal and professional realms.   Connect with Adrian https://takenewground.com/      The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

In this enlightening episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, host Shannon Jamail sits down with Terrie Christine, an intuitive energy healer whose transition from a corporate career to mastering the subconscious realm has transformed many lives. This discussion dives deep into how Terrie uses her unique skills to help individuals overcome subconscious blocks that hold them back from living fully empowered lives. Episode Highlights: Journey to Healing: Terrie shares her personal evolution from confronting childhood wounds and past emotional traumas to discovering her true calling in energy healing. Her story is a testament to the transformative power of facing and healing one's subconscious. Subconscious Triggers in Retreats: The conversation turns to the specific challenges retreat leaders face, such as self-doubt and limiting beliefs stemming from past experiences. Terrie emphasizes the importance of authenticity and understanding one's triggers to prevent them from impacting retreat planning and execution. Instincts Over Opinions: Terrie recounts her experiences while publishing her book, "The Secret Power of You," highlighting the crucial lesson of trusting one's instincts, especially when external opinions clash with personal intuition. Alignment with Purpose: Both Shannon and Terrie discuss the significance of aligning actions with one's true passion and purpose, ensuring that every decision contributes to personal and professional fulfillment. Reframing Money Perspectives: A profound part of the discussion is dedicated to reframing beliefs around money and value. Terrie offers insight into how upbringing influences financial perspectives and shares how she assists people in overcoming these deep-seated beliefs to embrace a more abundant mindset. Join Shannon and Terrie as they explore how tapping into the subconscious can lead to a more authentic and powerful leadership in retreat settings. This episode is packed with actionable advice for those looking to enrich their personal and professional lives by breaking free from the chains of unexplored subconscious thoughts. Tune in now to discover how to transform challenges into stepping stones towards a fulfilled and purpose-driven life. About Terrie Terrie Christine is an internationally acclaimed Celebrity Relationship Coach and Intuitive Energy Healer with nearly 20 years of experience. Featured on Bravo's The Real Housewives of Potomac, Love and Marriage DC on the OWN Network, Hay House Radio, and Good Morning Washington, Terrie specializes in helping individuals break through emotional barriers, embrace self-love, and create lasting, meaningful relationships. Through her intuitive healing, she empowers clients to heal past wounds and connect more deeply with themselves and their partners. She is the author of The Secret Power of You: A Guide to Mastering Your Inner Greatness. Connect with Terrie For more insights & wisdom, visit www.TerrieChristine.com or follow Terrie on YouTube and social media. She's @TerrieChristine on Instagram, and TikTok, or find her on Facebook @TerrieChristine333. Website: https://TerrieChristine.com  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/terriechristine333 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/terriechristine TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@terriechristine YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/terriechristine   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Dive into an energizing episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast where host Shannon Jamail connects with Ricardo, a vibrant videographer, photographer, and dance enthusiast from Philadelphia. Explore how Ricardo uses dance as a powerful tool for fostering community and connection in retreat settings. Episode Highlights: Embracing Dance in Retreats: Shannon and Ricardo delve into the transformative power of social dancing, particularly Latin styles like salsa and bachata, to break down barriers and enhance bonding among retreat participants. They discuss the magnetic effect of dance in creating safe spaces for expression and connection. Creating Inclusive Dance Environments: Learn how Ricardo crafts welcoming atmospheres for social dancing at retreats, encouraging participants to step out and dance with confidence. He shares tips on setting the right tone, using dance ambassadors, and making everyone feel comfortable on the dance floor. Journey through Dance and Teaching: Ricardo recounts his personal dance journey and his return to teaching with his partner, Alex. They co-teach workshops that not only focus on dance steps but also on fostering a deeper community among dancers. Integrating Dance into Retreats: Shannon and Ricardo discuss practical ways to integrate dance into retreats to enhance the overall experience. They talk about the importance of aligning dance activities with the retreat's theme and ensuring they add value to the participants' experience. The Power of Dance for Community Building: Both hosts explore how dance can serve as a cornerstone for building stronger connections within retreat groups. They reflect on their own experiences where dance helped participants form lasting bonds and shared memories. Tune in to this lively episode to discover how integrating dance into retreats can transform an ordinary retreat into an extraordinary experience. Whether you're a retreat leader looking to spice up your events or just curious about the benefits of dance, this episode offers fresh perspectives and inspiring stories that highlight the joy and community-building potential of dance. About Ricardo Ricardo is a media production professional and storyteller who specializes in documenting the transformative power of movement and dance communities. As the creator of 'Why We Move' podcast, he uncovers compelling stories that bridge cultural expression with community building, having produced 23 episodes featuring dancers, instructors, and wellness enthusiasts. After pivoting from a career in medicine, he found his true calling in visual storytelling and founded Rico Media Productions, where he helps businesses and communities tell authentic stories through video, photography, and podcasting. Ricardo's unique approach combines his understanding of movement dynamics with digital storytelling techniques, allowing him to capture and share the genuine moments that build lasting connections. His work spans social dance documentation, retreat experiences, and community events, always emphasizing the power of movement to break down barriers and create meaningful human connections. Connect with Ricardo https://direct.me/whywemove    The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Welcome to a captivating episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, where host Shannon Jamail engages with RoseAda Marie, a dynamic leader who is transforming the retreat landscape. Dive into the innovative world where wellness meets strategy, and discover RoseAda's unique approach that marries membership models with transformative retreat experiences. Introduction to RoseAda Marie Shannon introduces RoseAda, a strategic wellness coach and retreat leader, who brings a fresh perspective to integrating memberships with retreats. RoseAda shares her excitement about her journey and the upcoming collaborations, including her visit to Shannon's ranch. RoseAda's Wellness Philosophy and Retreats RoseAda discusses her extensive background in culinary arts, nutrition, and personal training, which has profoundly shaped her retreat leadership style. She emphasizes the seamless integration of her wellness transformation memberships with her retreat offerings, creating a continuous loop of engagement and transformation for her clients. Innovative Membership Models Explore RoseAda's pioneering membership tiers designed to support ongoing client transformation. From pre and post-retreat assessments to exclusive content and wellness partner promotions, RoseAda outlines how her structured support extends beyond the retreats, fostering a lasting impact on participants' lives. Sustainable Self-Care and Community Support RoseAda highlights the importance of sustainable self-care practices within her retreats and memberships, stressing the value of community and accountability. She shares insights on creating a supportive network that encourages personal growth and facilitates achieving wellness goals. The Launch of a New Era The discussion culminates with the launch of RoseAda's membership program, which promises to bring a new dimension to her wellness retreats. RoseAda expresses her gratitude for the platform to share her vision and discusses the potential expansion of her offerings to reach a broader audience. Closing Thoughts Shannon and RoseAda reflect on the importance of learning from each retreat experience to continually refine their offerings. They emphasize the role of personal growth in shaping the retreat leader's approach and the transformative impact on participants. Join Shannon and RoseAda for this enlightening episode that not only delves into the mechanics of successful retreat hosting but also celebrates the personal and professional growth that comes from innovative thinking in the wellness industry.   Connect with RoseAda https://www.roseadamarie.com/ Check out her memberships:  https://lftunplugged.thrivecart.com/lft-unplugged/ Schedule a Q&A session with RoseAda: https://calendly.com/roseadamarie/lft-unplugged-retreat-q-a-call     The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Dive into a captivating discussion on the Retreat Leaders Podcast where host Shannon Jamail and the dynamic Alison K., a seasoned health and fitness expert turned business mentor, unwrap the world of retreats. Discover how Alison transitioned from running fitness studios to guiding wellness entrepreneurs in monetizing their passions through both in-person and online platforms. Episode Highlights: Retreats vs. Vacations: Alison and Shannon explore the transformative essence of retreats, distinguishing them from typical vacations. They emphasize the importance of focusing on personal growth and the transformative outcomes rather than just fun activities. Crafting Transformative Experiences: Alison shares invaluable tips on how retreat leaders can effectively communicate the unique transformations their retreats offer. She stresses the necessity of ensuring guests are well-matched to the retreat's objectives to enhance satisfaction and outcomes. Marketing with Clarity: Learn from Alison's approach to marketing retreats by painting a vivid picture of what attendees can expect and clearly articulating the problems the retreat will solve. Her strategy includes using personal invitations to align expectations and screening guests to foster a cohesive group. Hybrid Business Model Insights: Alison discusses her hybrid business model, combining the best of in-person engagements and digital scalability. She provides a sneak peek into her strategies for helping clients leverage their unique strengths in a flexible and adaptable business framework. Plus, get a glimpse of Shannon and Alison's upcoming rendezvous in France and the exciting plans they have in store! Alison also generously offers listeners a free resource and consultation available through her website for those interested in exploring her innovative hybrid business model. Tune in to this insightful episode to elevate your understanding of designing retreats that promise and deliver true transformation. Whether you're a seasoned retreat leader or aspiring to be one, this episode is packed with actionable advice to refine your approach and achieve greater impact.   Connect with Alison https://thealisonk.com/meet-alison   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List  Get your legal docs for retreats   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify    

Episode 140: Grab the Ultimate Ad Script right HERE - https://join.digitaltrailblazer.com/ultimate-ad-scriptLive, in-person events, like masterminds and retreats, used to be a lot easier to be profitable with.Now, post-covid, it seems like getting attendees and running profitable events is much more difficult. Many industry leaders have even stopped doing live events because of their struggles with making them profitable.Yet, there are still others who are knocking it out of the park with their live events.In this episode, Shannon Jamail gives us the details about what the winners are doing that the losers are not and how to be profitable with live events in 2025 and beyond.About Shannon Jamail: Shannon is the founder and creator of the Mind & Body Complete Family of Companies which includes her retreat center, Retreat Ranch, outside of Austin Texas. She is a best-selling author, podcast host, retreat leader, therapist turned mentor, Yoga Teacher trainer and tequila connoisseur (not really but she does enjoy sipping on a good pour). Shannon has a passion and a mission to elevate individuals in mind & body in order to connect, grow & thrive through her online courses, books, programs & retreats.  She lives on her ranch with her family in the Hill Country of Texas.Check out Shannon's Courses & Training: http://mindbodycomplete.com/ - use code: TRAILBLAZER for 10% off any program or retreatConnect with Shannon: https://theretreatranch.com/ https://www.facebook.com/mindandbodycomplete/ https://www.instagram.com/mindbodycomplete/ https://www.facebook.com/retreatleadersplaybook https://www.instagram.com/retreatleadersplaybook/ https://www.instagram.com/retreat_ranch/ https://www.facebook.com/retreatranchGrab the Ultimate Ad Script right HERE - https://join.digitaltrailblazer.com/ultimate-ad-script✅ Connect With Us:Website - https://DigitalTrailblazer.comFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/digitaltrailblazerTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@digitaltrailblazerTwitter: https://twitter.com/DgtlTrailblazerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/DigitalTrailblazer

Join us in this insightful episode as Shannon Jamail talks with Casie, a renowned yoga studio owner and retreat leader, who shares her unique journey through the realms of yoga and entrepreneurship. Together, they delve into the intricacies of hosting mother-daughter yoga retreats and the profound impact these experiences have on participants. Casie's Yoga Retreat Experiences: Casie discusses the evolution of her career from opening a yoga studio to leading specialized retreats. She opens up about the challenges and triumphs she has encountered, particularly in hosting retreats designed for mothers and daughters. These retreats focus on strengthening bonds through shared yoga practices and activities, ensuring a balance of connection and independence. Casie reveals her plans to further refine the retreat format to enhance the experience for future events. Equine Yoga Training Program: The conversation shifts to Casie's innovative Equine Yoga Training Program available on her website, nectarflowyoga.com. This unique program combines traditional yoga with equine-assisted activities, designed to deepen the yogic practice through interaction with horses. Casie explains the structure of the program, which caters to both new learners and seasoned yoga instructors looking to add 55 CEU hours through Yoga Alliance. She highlights upcoming retreat opportunities for hands-on learning and personal growth in the serene setting of her ranch. Community Engagement and Future Plans: Casie also discusses her commitment to the yoga community by hosting monthly public classes at her ranch, which serve as a gateway for individuals interested in exploring equine yoga. Looking ahead, she shares her excitement for the next in-person retreat scheduled for May and another session in December, inviting all yoga enthusiasts to join and experience the transformational power of her programs. Closing Remarks: Shannon wraps up the episode by expressing her admiration for Casie's dedication to blending yoga with meaningful personal connections and her innovative approach to retreat leadership. Listeners are encouraged to explore Casie's programs and consider attending her retreats to experience firsthand the benefits of this unique yoga practice. Join Casie and Shannon as they explore the transformative impact of yoga retreats on personal and familial relationships, and the exciting opportunities within the equine yoga space.     Learn More:  https://nectarflowyoga.com/  Instagram: @nectarflowyoga   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our Retreat Leader Membership Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide   Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Join host Shannon Jamail as she delves into the nuanced world of retreat pricing with expert Erin Haag. They explore the dynamic between price-conscious and value-driven buyers, and the strategies for setting retreat prices that reflect the true value of the experience. Retreat Pricing Insights: Price vs. Value Shoppers: Erin outlines that retreats priced under $5,000 tend to attract price shoppers focused on budget, whereas retreats with a higher price tag draw in those who value the experience over cost. Shannon reflects on her own pricing strategies that range from $3,000 to $7,000, aligning with the type of clients she aims to attract. Impact of Economic Fluctuations: They discuss how premium-priced retreats remain stable even during economic shifts, highlighting the resilience of targeting value-driven consumers. Strategic Pricing Approaches: Setting Higher Prices: Erin and Shannon talk about the importance of pricing retreats to not only cover costs but to ensure profitability. This approach helps in adequately supporting attendees and sustaining the business. Consultation and Profit Goals: Erin shares her consulting firm's strategy aiming for at least $25,000 profit per retreat with a 50% margin, advocating for setting ambitious financial targets to reflect the value offered. Industry Pricing Norms: Valuing Services Appropriately: The discussion underscores the importance of not undervaluing one's services. Erin emphasizes the broader impact of appropriate pricing, particularly how women reinvest in their communities. Gender Disparities in Pricing: Observations are shared about how male retreat organizers often set higher prices for similar offerings, stirring a conversation about recognizing and asserting the worth of one's services. Overcoming Pricing Challenges: Addressing Low Pricing Issues: They highlight how underpricing can lead to cancellations and insufficient profitability. By evaluating past data and acknowledging the comprehensive effort required to plan and execute retreats, retreat leaders can better understand their value. Advice for Retreat Leaders: Erin provides practical advice for aligning price with value, ensuring that the transformative experience promised at retreats is effectively communicated and priced. Concluding Thoughts: Value Beyond Price: The episode wraps up with a focus on how retreats provide transformational experiences far exceeding the offerings of typical vacations or trips. This unique aspect should be a major factor in pricing strategy. Direct Engagement with Erin: Shannon closes by discussing how listeners can connect with Erin to refine their marketing strategies to appeal to value-focused demographics. Learn More: Listeners interested in improving their retreat pricing strategies or seeking personalized advice can reach out to Erin through provided contact details in the show notes.   Connect with Erin https://luxuryinbusinessretreats.com/ Instagram: @pricingoverhaul   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List    Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

In this enlightening episode, Shannon Jamail sits down with Shelly Swierz, a seasoned yoga instructor and the visionary behind Topia Boutique Retreat Center in Baja California Sur, Mexico. Shelly brings over 15 years of yoga teaching experience and shares invaluable insights into the world of retreat hosting. Topia's Mission and Setting Topia Boutique Retreat Center is dedicated to facilitating profound community connections for leaders. Nestled near the Pacific Ocean and conveniently close to Cabo San Lucas airport, the center is designed to support retreat leaders fully, from planning stages to execution, ensuring a seamless experience. Common Mistakes by Retreat Hosts Shelly discusses the pitfalls many retreat hosts encounter, such as overlooking the importance of building personal relationships and engaging deeply with their community. Other common mistakes include poor timing for retreats, inadequate guest preparation, and relying too heavily on social media for promotion rather than fostering real-life interactions. Best Practices for Hosting Retreats The conversation shifts to best practices that can dramatically improve the success of a retreat. Key strategies include: Over-communicating with guests to prepare them fully for what to expect, Choosing the right dates avoiding major holidays or adverse weather conditions, Engaging in one-on-one conversations to build trust and ensure alignment of expectations.   This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the nuances of retreat hosting and how to elevate their offerings to create unforgettable experiences for participants.       Connect with Topia topiaretreat.com  Instagram: @topiaretreat    Our In Person Mastermind is coming in 2025! Get on the list now: https://mindbodycomplete.com/wait-or-interest-list-rlp/   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List    Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify   

In this enlightening episode, host Shannon Jamail sits down with Kyera Kacey, a trailblazer in the personal development industry since the age of 17. Kyera, who opened her first office at 24 and launched her retreat business in 2022, dives into the details of her unique approach to retreat planning. The discussion kicks off with her debut retreat in Ireland, which she daringly announced with minimal prior planning and impressively sold out very quickly. Kyera discusses her pricing strategies, which began at $17,000 for her initial retreat, scaling up to $55,000 for subsequent luxury experiences. She shares insights into the importance of self-belief and conviction in achieving sales success, integrating her 'Rich Bitch' methodology and leveraging the 'power of nine' to cultivate financial abundance and self-worth. The conversation also covers her recent luxury retreat in Tulum, which provided a transformative experience for a small group of women, incorporating elements like private mentorship and mastermind sessions. Kyera emphasizes the importance of creating retreats that genuinely make a difference, urging retreat leaders to transcend limitations and focus on service rather than just profit. Shannon and Kyera discuss the nuanced dynamics of pricing and the importance of maintaining a reciprocal relationship with money. The episode wraps up with a discussion on their personal experiences in Tulum and the attitudes encountered in some retreat-hosting communities. Key takeaways for retreat leaders include embracing innovative strategies, understanding the profound impact of self-belief in setting prices, and the importance of creating meaningful, transformative retreat experiences.     About Kyera: Kyera Kacey is a bold, unapologetic force in personal and professional transformation. Known for her no-BS approach, she combines fierce love with intuition and decades of experience, inviting her audience to break through their most profound barriers.   Kyera isn't afraid to tackle taboo topics or challenge societal norms—she shows up exactly as she is: provocative and powerful.   At her events, expect raw, unfiltered truth, explosive energy, and a transformative journey that will forever change you.   Connect with Kyera: www.kyerakacey.com  Instagram: @kyerakacey Free Offering from Kyera: https://www.kyerakacey.com/kyera-in-your-pocket    Our In Person Mastermind is coming in 2025! Get on the list now: https://mindbodycomplete.com/wait-or-interest-list-rlp/   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List    Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Mike "C-Roc" welcomes Shannon Jamail, founder of the Mind & Body Complete family of companies. Shannon is a bestselling author, podcast host, retreat leader, and therapist-turned-mentor with a passion for helping others thrive. Broadcasting from her stunning Retreat Ranch near Austin, Texas, Shannon shares her incredible journey of overcoming a traumatic past to create a life of connection, growth, and purpose. Shannon dives into her early life, recounting the challenges of growing up in an environment filled with abuse, homelessness, and adversity. She explains how these experiences shaped her worldview and ignited her drive to help others heal and grow. From dropping out of high school to earning a master's degree, Shannon's resilience and determination shine through as she discusses the transformative power of self-exploration, surrender, and embracing one's past. Tune in as Shannon shares insights from her book Surrender and her mission to empower others to connect with their true selves and build fulfilling lives. Whether you're seeking personal growth, professional inspiration, or a reminder that adversity can fuel greatness, this episode is packed with wisdom and heart. Website- https://mindbodycomplete.com/ Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/mindbodycomplete/

EPISODE SUMMARY Join scientist and mindset & high-performance coach Claudia Garbutt and therapist-turned-retreat host Shannon Jamail as they discuss building a profitable & transformative retreat business.   In this episode, we talk about: - Healing yourself to heal the world - Creating a transformational retreat - Pricing your retreat offer   EPISODE NOTES Shannon Jamail is the founder and creator of the Mind & Body Complete Family of Companies which includes her retreat center and Retreat Ranch, outside of Austin Texas.  She is a best-selling author, podcast host, retreat leader, therapist turned mentor, Yoga Teacher trainer and tequila connoisseur (not really but she does enjoy sipping on a good pour).  Shannon has a passion and a mission to elevate individuals in mind & body in order to connect, grow & thrive through her online courses, books, programs & retreats.    Links: https://mindbodycomplete.com/# https://www.facebook.com/mindandbodycomplete/ https://www.instagram.com/mindbodycomplete/ https://www.instagram.com/retreat_ranch/ https://www.facebook.com/retreatranch   retreatleaderlistbuilding.com   https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-retreat-leaders-podcast/id1186563181   ---------------   Special THANKS to the episode sponsor L-Nutra!   For nutrition technology that was designed for longevity, like the plant-based L-Protein I mentioned, head over to prolonlife.com/wired   ---------------- Click this link to listen on your favorite podcast player and if you enjoy the show, please leave a rating & review: https://linktr.ee/wiredforsuccess   ------------------ Music credit: Vittoro by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue) ----------------- Disclaimer: Podcast Episodes might contain sponsored content.  

Overview: In a captivating session of the Retreat Leaders podcast, host Shannon Jamail engages with Mellissa Tong, the storytelling maestro and visionary behind Duck Punk Productions. Mellissa shares her expert insights on the transformative power of storytelling in business and its critical role in connecting with audiences to drive sales. Mellissa's Journey and Duck Punk Productions: Mellissa Tong, renowned for her storytelling prowess, introduces listeners to Duck Punk Productions, a company that tailors its services to a diverse client base including big corporations, mid-sized companies, and entrepreneurs. The company's offerings span from creating impactful TV commercials and branded content to providing fractional CMO services and storytelling training. The Art of Storytelling in Business: Mellissa discusses the essential nature of storytelling in today's business landscape, especially for retreat leaders. She breaks down the four crucial stages of the sales cycle—connection, reaction, transformation, and action—and explains how compelling storytelling navigates these phases to captivate and convert audiences. Deepening Audience Engagement Through Stories: With her background in TV news as a foundation, Mellissa emphasizes the importance of crafting stories that are not only engaging but also perfectly aligned with the target audience. She highlights how data-driven companies can leverage storytelling to render complex information more relatable and digestible. Empowering Through Education: Looking ahead, Mellissa is excited about the launch of her Story Selling course next month. This course promises to equip individuals with the skills to craft and narrate personal stories across various formats, enhancing their effectiveness in both personal and professional interactions. She supports this educational journey with a dedicated Facebook group, fostering a community of continuous learning and support. Actionable Takeaways: Shannon commits to enriching the podcast show notes with additional resources including a link to Mellissa's LinkedIn article and the upcoming Story Selling course. Mellissa plans to extend a special discount code for the course exclusively for podcast listeners, ensuring that the audience can immediately benefit from her vast expertise. Conclusion: The episode wraps up with Mellissa reinforcing the value of storytelling in building deep, meaningful connections with audiences, a skill indispensable for anyone in the business of influence, especially retreat leaders looking to attract and engage their ideal guests.     About Mellissa: Mellissa Tong's journey is a testament to life's unpredictable paths. Beginning her career in music, she mastered the piano and conducted children's choirs, believing music was her destined path. With a passion for English Literature as well, Mellissa balanced her artistic pursuits with academic rigor, exploring comparative literature alongside her musical endeavors. Despite a seemingly fulfilled life, Mellissa felt a disconnect, stemming from her upbringing in Hong Kong where emotional expression was stifled. This feeling of isolation fueled her lifelong dream to study abroad, leading her to the United States in 1991. It was here that Mellissa's career took a pivotal turn. Initially feeling out of place, her breakthrough came when she joined a satellite TV station as a newscaster. Tasked with crafting human interest stories, Mellissa honed her skills in interviewing and storytelling, discovering the profound power of connection through narrative. This experience was transformative, guiding her to found DuckPunk, initially aimed at film and documentary storytelling. Over time, DuckPunk evolved into creating compelling TV commercials and branded content for major brands like Nissan, Verizon, and McDonald's. Recognizing the shifting landscape during the pandemic, Mellissa pivoted DuckPunk into a StorySelling agency, emphasizing the necessity for deeper connection and authentic storytelling in commerce. Today, Mellissa uses her unique journey and storytelling prowess to help businesses stand out, connect deeply with their audiences, and drive meaningful engagement. Her story—from a young musician to a leading voice in commercial storytelling—illustrates how our greatest challenges can lead to our most significant achievements. Connect with Mellissa https://www.duckpunk.net/ LinkedIn Article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/4-stages-sales-cycle-mellissa-tong  Instagram: @duckpunkproductions    Our In Person Mastermind is coming in 2025! Get on the list now: https://mindbodycomplete.com/wait-or-interest-list-rlp/   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List    Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Unlock the Power of Podcasts: In an engaging session with Shannon Jamail, Julie Fry, the visionary behind Your Expert Guest, unveils the transformative role of podcasts in reaching precise target audiences. Julie illuminates how strategic podcast guesting can create meaningful connections and open up new avenues for entrepreneurs. Strategize Your Guest Appearances: Julie shares invaluable tips on becoming an exemplary podcast guest, emphasizing the necessity of detailed research on hosts and programs to tailor compelling pitches. She advocates for the importance of not just participating but adding value to the discussions, and suggests direct calls-to-action like booking calls to actively engage listeners. Leverage Expert Services: Delving into the professional support her company offers, Julie outlines services tailored for potential podcast guests, including creating customized pitch lists and handling guest booking processes. This segment offers insights into making strategic choices between a DIY approach to podcast guesting and opting for expert services.   About Julie: Julie Fry is the spirited CEO who thrives on making connections through podcasting. With a deep love for the great outdoors and a knack for making people laugh, Julie embraces every opportunity to explore the beauty of the Pacific Northwest, whether it's hiking, kayaking, or braving the icy waters of the Polar Bear plunge—an event she's conquered 19 times! When she's not orchestrating perfect guest-host matchups or indulging in her favorite SNL sketches and Conan O'Brien laughs, Julie is deeply committed to her community. Her passion for local causes shines through her extensive volunteer work, aiming to foster inclusion and joy in her surroundings. Despite her profound influence in the podcast world, Julie admits to never having listened to a True Crime podcast, preferring to impact lives through laughter and connection. Connect with Julie https://yourexpertguest.com/about/ Instagram: @yourexpertguest   Our In Person Mastermind is coming in 2025! Get on the list now: https://mindbodycomplete.com/wait-or-interest-list-rlp/   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List    Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

In this episode, host Shannon Jamail engages in a casual conversation with Laura Zavelson about the challenges retreat leaders, particularly women, face when pricing their retreats. They discuss the importance of setting prices that reflect the true value of the retreat, overcoming emotional barriers to pricing, and managing business finances effectively. Here are the key points: Introduction & Focus Shannon introduces Laura Zavelson, highlighting the main theme of the podcast: the struggle many retreat leaders have with underpricing their offerings, especially women. The discussion focuses on how pricing should cover expenses, pay the leader fairly, and reflect the value of the retreat. Pricing & Value for Retreat Leaders The conversation explores how retreat leaders can ensure their prices not only cover costs but also result in sustainable income. Laura addresses the emotional challenges many women face when setting prices and emphasizes the importance of revenue goals based on the desired number of retreats. Shannon and Laura discuss how proper pricing builds trust and conveys the value of the retreat. They also suggest ways to handle excess profits, including donating or reinvesting in the business. Business Financials & Management Laura highlights the need for retreat leaders to keep their business and personal finances separate. Using dedicated business accounts, credit cards, and bookkeeping software is recommended to maintain financial clarity. She stresses the importance of good financial hygiene, ensuring that all financial records are clean and well-organized. Laura also touches on the legal protection offered by forming an LLC, which helps limit personal liability. Laura's 'Business Breakthrough' Program In the final section, Laura introduces her 'Business Breakthrough' program, which is designed to help retreat leaders create profitable business models. She discusses the common gender disparity in pricing, encouraging women to set their prices based on the value they offer rather than underselling themselves. Laura wraps up the conversation with actionable tips, including calculating revenue goals, maintaining financial discipline, and subscribing to her newsletter for ongoing support and guidance.   Key Action Items: Calculate revenue goals based on the desired income and number of retreats. Keep business finances separate from personal finances to maintain financial clarity. Consider forming an LLC for liability protection. Subscribe to Laura's newsletter for more insights and details on her 'Business Breakthrough' program.     About Laura: Laura Zavelson is a seasoned entrepreneur, mentor, and educator dedicated to empowering women business owners. Laura has a rich history of guiding emerging entrepreneurs through the complexities of building successful businesses that offer not only financial rewards but also profound personal satisfaction. With experience launching and growing three companies to the $1M mark and beyond, Laura knows firsthand the challenges and triumphs of business development. Her journey began without the roadmap she now provides to others, making her own share of mistakes from over-investing in product perfection to undercharging and overhiring. These experiences have shaped her into a powerful mentor who does more than just teach entrepreneurship; she guides you on a journey, helping you navigate the pitfalls and obstacles with strategic advice tailored to achieving personal success with minimal drama. Laura's approach is holistic, focusing on key elements such as understanding the core problem your business solves, crafting compelling offers, and implementing effective systems to prevent overwhelm. Whether you're just starting out or looking to scale up, Laura brings invaluable insights into creating a business that aligns with your values of flexibility, freedom, and meaning.   Connect with Laura https://laurazavelson.com/  Instagram: @laurazavelson  Sign up for her newsletter: https://programs.laurazavelson.com/the-next-leap-sign-up    Our In Person Mastermind is coming in 2025! Get on the list now: https://mindbodycomplete.com/wait-or-interest-list-rlp/   The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List    Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

Episode Overview: Join Kristine Palmer and Shannon Jamail in a captivating episode that explores the integration of equine-assisted activities into wellness programs. This discussion focuses on an upcoming Equine Assisted Retreat, specifically designed for wellness professionals looking to enrich their service offerings. Scheduled for December 3-4 at Retreat Ranch, this retreat promises a deep dive into the benefits and implementation of equine work. Key Discussions: Equine-Assisted Innovations: Kristine, founder of Horse and Bow, shares her expertise in employing horses for leadership and team-building exercises, explaining how equine sensitivity to human emotion can enhance communication and leadership skills within teams. Retreat Planning and Benefits: The retreat aims to demonstrate the transformative impact of equine-assisted activities on personal and client wellness. Shannon and Kristine discuss the structured activities planned for the retreat, including equine yoga and equine-assisted coaching, designed to expand practitioners' tools and methodologies. Accessibility to Non-Horse Owners: Addressing the logistics of incorporating equine work, the hosts discuss how wellness professionals without direct access to horses can still participate. Options include partnerships with local horse owners or rental arrangements, which they will exemplify at the retreat. Support for Rescued Horses: A unique aspect of their program is the involvement of retired or rescued horses, providing them care and a purpose, while offering attendees a meaningful way to interact and learn. Kristine proposes collaborations with local horse rescues as a way to benefit both the animals and human participants.   Event Details: The Equine Assisted Retreat not only aims to educate on the integration of horses into therapeutic practices but also provides practical experience in handling and learning from these intuitive animals. It's an ideal opportunity for wellness industry professionals to explore new dimensions of their practice. Join us to discover how you can transform your wellness offerings with the wisdom of horses at this innovative retreat at Retreat Ranch. Join the retreat: https://theretreatranch.com/equine-assisted-services-workshop/   Connect with Kristine https://horseandbow.com/ Instagram: @horseandbow The Retreat Leaders Podcast Resources and Links: Learn to Host Retreats Join our private Facebook Group Top 5 Marketing Tools Free Guide Free Top 11 Tips for Building an Email List    Thanks for tuning into the Retreat Leaders Podcast. Remember to subscribe for more insightful episodes, and visit our website for additional resources. Let's create a vibrant retreat community together!   Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify

This episode is fun and different because this time I'm the one getting interviewed! I recently had a joyful conversation with Shannon Jamail, the founder and creator of Mind & Body Complete, and host of the Retreat Leader's Podcast. You might remember Shannon from last season's podcast when I interviewed her for Episode 28: Embodying Surrender and Manifestation. Shannon owns a retreat center called Retreat Ranch just outside of Austin in the beautiful hill country and I hosted a sold-out retreat there last Fall. It is such a beautiful space that I booked another retreat there for this coming April! I always enjoy my conversations with Shannon, but this one was extra delightful because it was all about retreats - why they're important, and how they can help us cultivate transformation and nourish our second chakra. I hope that this episode helps inspire you to go on retreat, and if you feel called to join Blossom & Bliss at Ranch Retreat on April 12-14, there are still some spots available. I'd love to have you. You can find more information out here. Love, Jess More about Jess: Website jessgoulding.com Blossom & Bliss: Women's Yoga Retreat, April 12-14!  Resources: Chakra Savvy: Reset Your Life Game Plan ⁠Chakra Savvy Quickie Quiz⁠ ⁠⁠ ⁠Chakra Check-In Self Assessment⁠ ⁠ Chakra Savvy Cheat Sheet ⁠ Embodiment Online Course. Harness the energy of chakra one, and set a new foundation built on connection, gratitude, and trust in the world. Use coupon code PODCAST! More resources, links, and a form for thoughts and questions are at ⁠Jessgoulding.com/podcast.⁠ Connect with Jess:  Facebook⁠⁠, @jessgyoga, and the Jess G Yoga Facebook Group, ⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠, @jessgyoga   YouTube⁠⁠ @jessgoulding LinkedIn: Jessica (Jess) Goulding  @jessgyoga TAGS awareness,  mindfulness,   self study,   svadyaya,   self awareness,    chakras,    yoga,   yoga therapy, self improvement, transformation, spirituality, self help, yoga, meditation, philosophy, psychology #awareness #mindfulness #selfstudy #svadhyaya

Today's episode is all about the third chakra - Manipura. Located at the solar plexus, the color is yellow, the element is fire, and its focus is on the will, self-esteem, personal identity, and transformation. Joining us for this conversation on surrender and manifestation is the multi-talented Shannon Jamail, a best-selling author, podcast host, retreat leader, therapist-turned-mentor, and yoga teacher trainer. She is the founder and creator of the Mind & Body Complete Family of Companies which includes her retreat center, Retreat Ranch, outside of Austin Texas. Her passion and mission is to elevate individuals in mind & body in order to connect, grow & thrive through her online courses, books, programs & retreats. Shannon knows a lot about manifestation. And not only does she know how to make things happen, she does so with a level of conscious intention that is felt by everyone around her. She shares with us some of her own processes around creating intention and transformation (spoiler alert - she uses the chakra system!), how she combined her love of horses with her love of yoga, and how she tapped into the power of her third chakra to create the ranch retreat of her dreams. Ironically, our conversation about will and manifestation turned into one about surrender. That's right - an important aspect of intentional manifestation is full surrender... and humble acceptance. There are a lot of a-ha moments in this episode – some that I had in real time while talking with Shannon, and some that I'm still thinking about today! I would love to hear what your own a-ha moments are from this episode. "When you fully surrender and then accept that surrendering, is when the power is unleashed... that's how you become the most powerful." ~ Shannon Jamail Much love, Jess Get on the WAITLIST for Jess's next retreat at Retreat Ranch, April 12-14. More about Shannon: Learn more about Retreat Ranch and Mind & Body Complete Purchase her latest book The Retreat Leaders Playbook here Listen to her podcast Happy Hour at the Ranch here More about Jess: Learn more about Jess on her website ⁠⁠here⁠⁠. Get on the waitlist for the WonderFULL Women's Yoga Retreat at Retreat Ranch on October 29-31 here. Join Jess in the ⁠⁠Galapagos Islands, March 2-9! ⁠⁠ Get started or continue on your personal chakra journey with the⁠⁠ ⁠Chakra Savvy Quickie Quiz⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Settle into some journaling questions and a video guide with the⁠⁠ ⁠Chakra Check-In Self Assessment⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠Embodiment Online Course.⁠⁠ Harness the energy of chakra one, and set a new foundation built on connection, gratitude, and trust in the world. Use coupon code PODCAST! Listen about each chakra and keep it all straight with the⁠⁠ ⁠Chakra Savvy Cheat Sheet ⁠⁠⁠ More resources, links, and a form for thoughts and questions are at⁠⁠ ⁠Jessgoulding.com/podcast.⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Jess on ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Jess G Yoga Facebook Group⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠, & ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ TAGS awareness,  mindfulness,   self study,   svadyaya,   self awareness,    chakras,    yoga,   yoga therapy

Welcome to this episode of the Happy Hour podcast with Shannon! In this episode, she reflects on a recent attempt to make gluten-free sourdough bread and the lessons she learned from its failure. She emphasizes the importance of appreciating failure as a valuable teacher and explores four key reasons why mistakes are essential: they set the stage for comebacks, offer new perspectives, cultivate empathy and humility, and act as honest fact-checkers and teachers. Shannon encourages listeners to share their own experiences with failure and its valuable lessons. Listen to this episode to learn more! Topics covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: ●      00:28 - A Quick Update ●      01:40 - My Gluten-Free Sourdough Starter Journey ●      03:25 - Unlocking Retreat Success ●      05:05 - Learning, Perspective, and New Paths ●      6:19 -  The Value of Failure ●      10:16 - Your Support Matters ●      10:35 - Why Making Mistakes Matters, The Four Key Insights Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail: ●    Visit Happy Hour Podcast ●     Facebook Mind & Body Complete #RanchLifeAdventures #CrazyLove #HappyHourPodcast #NeighborlyConnections #EquineMagic #UnmaskingAuthenticity #JourneyOfEntrepreneurs #LifeLessonsWithHorses Ranch Life Adventures, Crazy Love, Happy Hour Podcast, Neighborly Connections, Equine Magic,  Unmasking Authenticity, Journey Of Entrepreneurs, Life Lessons With Horses,

This week's guest is Shannon Jamail from the Retreat Ranch in Marble Falls, Texas. The Retreat Ranch is a property that offers glamping, retreats, weddings and other events, and is a true example of how to incorporate different activities into your glamping offering. Discussion points include group bookings vs individual bookings; marketing tactics to generate group bookings; and how to stay sane while operating a wedding venue! If you own land for your glamping project AND you have a budget of over $250,000, we want to speak to you. Click here to schedule a free consultation with us.Visit Glampitect's websiteTake our online assessment Email Glampitect: contact@glampitect.comCall Glampitect: (825) 889-3110Stay at The Retreat Ranch

Welcome to this episode of the Happy Hour podcast with Shannon and her friend Kristine. Kristine recently started a company related to equine-assisted learning, which combines a passion for horses and helping people. Shannon & Kristine talk about the power of horses connecting with people on a deeper level, and they also provide a non-judgmental and authentic experience which creates a big impact on individuals. Kristine explains how horses can reflect and mirror a person's authentic self, creating a transformative and emotional reaction. In this episode, Shannon also shares her own experience with horses, initially being afraid of them but later discovering their calming and therapeutic effects. They discuss the concept of attunement, where horses see, hear, feel, and understand individuals on a deep level, allowing for genuine connections. The episode highlights the freedom and acceptance people feel when interacting with horses and how it can be a transformative experience for lasting change. Listen to learn more! Learn more about my guest here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristine-palmer-b1592358/ Topics covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: ●      00:30 - Who Is My Guest Today? ●      06:03 - My Experience With Horse ●      07:44 - Horses Can Unveil Authenticity and Awakening ●      10:03 - Discovering Fearlessness with Horses ●      11:16 - Yoga With Us! ●      12:55 - Horses Can Transform Stories and Inspire Change ●      17:15 - What Kristine Does In The Ranch ●      18:29 - Equine Epiphany ●      19:56 - The Team Challenges ●      23:49 - Promoting Powerful Team Building! ●      32:10 - Make Sure To Follow Us! ●      33:58 - Transformative Equine Assisted Experiences Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail: ●    Visit Happy Hour Podcast ●     Facebook Mind & Body Complete #RanchLifeAdventures #CrazyLove #HappyHourPodcast #NeighborlyConnections #EquineMagic #UnmaskingAuthenticity #JourneyOfEntrepreneurs #LifeLessonsWithHorses  

Shannon shares her thoughts on simplifying everything in order to do or have more. She argues that in our fast-paced world, we often feel overwhelmed and stressed out by the endless to-do lists and constant distractions. However, by intentionally simplifying our routines, belongings, and priorities, we can create more space and time for the things that truly matter to us. Overall, this podcast offers a compelling argument for why simplifying is worth the effort and provides actionable strategies for how to do so. It is a must-listen for anyone looking to reduce stress, increase happiness, and live a more fulfilling life. Learn more about the yoga teacher training at https://mindbodycomplete.com/online-yoga-teacher-training/ Topics Covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: ●        00:30 - What This Podcast Episode Is All About ●        01:23 - Reasons Why Life Gets Complicated ●        01:45 - Learn About Yoga Teacher Training! ●        03:54 - Focusing On What Is Important ●        04:34 - Letting Go Of People ●        05:52 - Being Organized helps! ●        06:36 - My Cleaning Up Tip! ●        07:11 - Digital Cleanup Matters! ●        08:35 - Have A To-Do List ●        10:38 - Meal Prep Changes Everything! ●        11:30 - The Importance of a Solid Morning Routine ●        12:31 - The Power Of Pause ●        13:32 - Leave Us A Review! ●        13:52 - Silencing The Digital Noise ●        14:34 - Cutting Toxic Ties ●        15:52 - The Importance of Clarity in Setting and Achieving Goals Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail: ●    Visit Happy Hour Podcast ●     Facebook Mind & Body Complete simpleliving #minimalism #lessismore #declutter #simplifyyourlife #simplicity #lessstress #minimalistlifestyle #livesimply #minimalistliving    

Listen to this episode as Shannon interviews Remi and Bonnie about the tough and rewarding parts of being a coach Bonnie is a certified life and wellness coach and self-proclaimed Grandma mentor with a passion for working with grandmas who are raising their grandchildren. Through 1:1 and group coaching, she helps them navigate the stressful and often scary path they unexpectedly find themselves on. She also works with Gen X women, helping them find their voice through radical acceptance and self-love. In addition to being a coach and mentor, Bonnie is podcaster, co-hosting on Conversations On Life Work And Love, a massage therapist, a self-help book junkie, and lover of all things funny. She lives in Seattle with her husband and her 4 year old son, Easton (recently adopted!). Remi Gibbs is an entrepreneur, 1:1 life, career, and self-care coach through her business Renovated Realities, co-host for the podcast Conversations on Life, Work, and Love, a writer, and workshop facilitator. She's currently working on writing her first book that she hopes to have completed by the end of this year. She's curious by nature, honest to a fault, a self-proclaimed foodie, a travel enthusiast and a huge Chris Stapleton fan. She resides in deep South Texas with her husband and 2-big furry kids (220 lbs worth) and 4-little furry kids with murder mittens.   Learn more about Remi and Bonnie here: website www.Bonnieblackstone.com   email Bonnie@bonnieblackstone.com Podcast: Conversations On Life Work And Love- https://apple.co/3iBIYKX  Remi's Website: www.renovatedrealities.com  Topics covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: ●      01:36 - What's Remi and Bonnie's Podcast All About? ●     05:09 - We Met at Life Coaching School! ●     08:18 - Yoga with Me! ●     11:39 - Nicheing Down with Remi's Coaching ●     14:19 - Women Also Needs to Take Care of Themselves ●     17:53 - Challenges of a Coach ●     22:05 - Connecting People More than Just Digital Presence ●     29:23 - Stay True to Who You Are ●     33:05 - Remi's and Bonnie's Contact Details Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail: ●    Visit Happy Hour Podcast ●     Facebook Mind & Body Complete #motherdaughter #goals #intentions #yoga #retreat #reconnection

Episode 142: Living The Nomad Life and Achieving Goals In 4 Hour Work Weeks with Colton Chorpenning Shannon interviews author and digital nomad Colton about his nomad lifestyle and how he is achieving his goals. He shares tips from his recently published book and we learn how it is possible to live your dream life while doing your dream job. Colton is a firm believer that being one's best self at all times is essential to success in whatever endeavor one undertakes. In this episode, he will also explain what "Big Rock Content" is and share why it is the best way to set your priorities in life while simultaneously incorporating more into it. Listen to this episode to learn more! Learn more about Colton here: https://kitcaster.com/colton-chorpenning/ Purchase his book here: https://www.thefisnext.com/ Topics covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: ●         00:44 - Who is Colton? ●         02:59 - Saving Money While Traveling The World ●         04:37 - Yoga With Us ●         06:15 - The Science Of Living Your Dream Life ●         09:24 - The Big Rock Content ●         10:33 - Vitality Of Choosing What You Enjoy ●         12:28 - How Feelings Affect Our Lives ●         14:26 - Self-Composure Technique ●         15:55 - Subscribe To Us ●         17:59 - Where To Find Colton's Book? ●         18:56 - What Are Shannon's Big Rocks? Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail: ●    Visit Happy Hour Podcast ●     Facebook Mind & Body Complete #nomadlife #goals #intentions #authorinterview #lifegoals #businessgoals

Episode 139: Owning A Small Business Is Hard AF with Shannon Jamail and Jenny   Shannon talks with her good friend Jenny, who owns a badass fitness studio in Dallas, about the challenges of owning a small business. They share their thoughts on how to play the business game and win it. Both present concepts and personal stories that will make owners rethink their business strategies to transform their constant dilemmas into wins. Tune in to find out the REAL truth about owning a small business! Jenny Fuller is a wife, mother, studio owner, as well as many other hats and labels. She followed her passion and opened up her baby, Karma Fitness, located in Dallas Texas. Karma is your one stop shop for all things fitness; they have infrared heated studios as well as a cross training gym and she believes this combination along with self care tools like meditation and intentional products will get individuals to the best health of their lives. Learn more about Jenny and her studio at https://www.karmafitnessstudio.com Learn more about the yoga teacher training at https://mindbodycomplete.com/online-yoga-teacher-training/ Topics Covered on this Happy Hour Podcast:   00:00 - Introduction on Owning A Small Business Is Hard AF 02:48 - How Does Karma Work? 07:53 - Where And How To Start A Business? 10:28 - Do Businesses Actually Follow Steps? 12:06 - Never Forget Your Mental Health! 13:39 - The Satisfaction Of Self Accomplishment 15:05 - Making Friends With Your Own Kind! 16:01 - Celebrating Small Wins Are Cool! 17:46 - Let's Pause for a Bit 19:26 - Do Your Research! 22:20 - The Common Misconception! 25:59 - Start From Zero 27:42 - Sacrifices Are Necessary 29:37 - The Art Of Self Worth 31:07 - There Is No Such Thing As Small Business 32:33 - You Own Your Business! Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail: Visit Happy Hour Podcast FacebookMind & Body Complete #businessowner #smallbusiness #businesstips #businessadvice #smallbusinessowner Buzzsprout Tags Business owner, small business, business tips, business advice, small business owner,

Episode 138: How Yoga Teacher Training Can Change Your Life with Shannon Jamail and Kim   In this episode, Shannon and her co-creator friend Kim share their own history of yoga teacher training, how it changed their life and equipped them for balance and success and how it can benefit us in mind & body.    Learn more about the yoga teacher training at https://mindbodycomplete.com/online-yoga-teacher-training/  Topics Covered on this Happy Hour Podcast:   00:00 - Introduction on How Yoga Teacher Training Can Change Your Life 02:12 - What is Yoga Teacher Training? 04:59 - Yoga Teacher Training Helps With Stress 05:37 - So Many Tools To Gain! 08:03 - We Offer Yoga Teacher Training! 10:05 - Yoga Teacher Training Is More Accessible! 13:35 - What Makes Us Set Apart From Others? 16:11 - It's Important To Connect With Our Students 18:22 - Let's Pause for a Bit 22:18 - Talk About The Neuroscience Of Yoga!  26:03 - Finance Is not An Issue: We Offer Scholarships! Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail: Visit Happy Hour Podcast     Facebook Mind & Body Complete #yogateacher #yogateachertraining #200houryogateachertraining #onlineyogateachertraining #onlineyoga #onlineyogaclasses Buzzsprout Tags Yoga teacher, yoga teacher training, 200 hour yoga teacher training, online yoga teacher training, online yoga, online yoga classes

Episode 134: How Horses Can Help You Heal w/ Shannon and Chris  In this episode, Shannon and Chris from Joshua Tree California, owner of Mustang Sanctuary Ranch, talk about how horses help humans heal. Chris shares what he does with the beautiful wild mustang population and how his ranch operates. Although he runs a Mustang rescue ranch, and they predominantly focus on Mustang rescues, but they do have a couple other horses there. He's just doing as much as he can to make sure that he put his best foot forward in educating and getting awareness out there about what these animals are going through and hoping that we can open our doors to as many as possible. He then shares how horses help us heal, just to kind of give an idea of what the healing magic for horses is, they say a human's heart rate or heart energy emanates, six feet and horse's is 8 feet. So as soon as you even get anywhere near these horses, they feel you and in turn that energy, the “unseen force” as Chris calls it, calls out to the horse, good or bad. It can be such a calming spiritual force that it relaxes you all the way up until the point where your heart rate starts to come down to match the horse's heart rate. So it's very good for stress reduction and anxiety reduction. It's even bigger when you get on the horse because when you get on the horse they're literally able to imitate your heartbeat and then bring it down.  Topics Covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: 02:19 – Quick Catch Up with Shannon and Chris.06:12 – Horse Tune Ups.07:37 – What's Happening with Wild Horses and what People can do to help.13:12 – Perfectly Fine Hoses inside Kill Shelters. 16:41 – Human and Horse Connection.20:07 – Human Consciousness Compared to Horse Consciousness.23:25 – Give us a Review / Subscribe24:28 – Staying in the Present Moment. 34:49 –You Should Never Be in a Rush when it comes to Horses.36:55 – Building Horses Confidence Back Up.38:25 – Connect with Chris. Connect with Chris: https://mustangsanctuary.com  Chris's mentors:  https://brannaman.com https://ttouch.com Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail:       Visit Happy Hour Podcast       Facebook Mind & Body Complete #Ranchlife #ranching, #glamping #retreatcenter #retreats #MarbleFalls #Texas #Community  Buzzsprout Tags Ranch life, ranching, glamping, retreat center, retreats, Marble Falls, Texas, Community

Episode 133: Evicting the Inner Mean Girl —w/ Shannon and Lizzy In this episode, Shannon and Lizzy talk about how we can evict the inner mean girl. Lizzy, affectionately known as the self-love sister, empowers women with the tools that they need to ditch the diets, silence their inner mean girl and confidently step into the body that they love and sustain it. What Lizzy's been doing over the past five years or so is empowering women with this whole suite of tools to have the body that they love. One of the highlight in this episode is Lizzy talking about the 12 Rebellious acts from her book called Reclaim the Rebel. One of these acts is Just Keep Practicing at Rewriting that Story. Whatever it is that comes up you're not always going to get it perfect. It's going to be a bit more effortful on your first couple of attempts that when you repeat it again and again, and again, it's going to feel easier and that story is going to be more embedded into your subconscious, so that you can move through those moments easier. Topics Covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: 01:54 – Lizzy's Introduction04:21 – Rebellious Acts 08:21 – Just Keep Practicing at Rewriting that Story. 11:27 – Biggest struggle when People are Trying to Evict or Listen to that Inner Mean Girl14:15 – Finding the Voice that Does Feel Authentic17:24 – Does the Media Ever Share Anything Positive?20:33 – Changing your Stories to Something that's More Empowering22:58 –Connect with LizzyGet in touch with Lizzy: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nutritionbylizzy/ Website: https://www.reclaimtherebel.com Complimentary gifts for your listeners: https://www.nutritionbylizzy.com/goodies Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail:       Visit Happy Hour Podcast       Facebook Mind & Body Complete #selflove #evictinnermeangirl #selfacceptance #Ranchlife #ranching, #glamping #retreatcenter #retreats #MarbleFalls #Texas #Community  Buzzsprout Tags Ranch life, ranching, glamping, retreat center, retreats, Marble Falls, Texas, Community

Episode 130: We have an incredible Community — We have an incredible Community, w/ Shannon and Nathan Jamail  Recently there was a terrible fire close by, and the community response was amazing.  Listen to Shannon & Nathan recap the experience and learn how important community is. In this episode, Shannon and Nathan share how blessed and grateful they are with the Community that they have currently and how that gave them motivation and hope for humanity. Shannon and Nathan also stated how the fire helped the community stay close and continue to support each other. Topics Covered on this Happy Hour Podcast: 01:10 - The Serious Fires in Texas03:02 - Went to Miami During a Tropical Storm04:02 - Fire? What Fire? We're in Miami!05:22 - Amazing Community Support!07:29 - Giving Back to the Firefighters09:38 - Another Massive Fire After Three Days10:35 - Our Community Look Out for Each Other13:28 - A Business Within the Community15:18 - When the Barn catches Fire, It's Going to the Ground Subscribe:  Apple Podcast | Google Podcast | Spotify Connect with Shannon Jamail:       Visit Happy Hour Podcast       Facebook Mind & Body Complete #Ranchlife #ranching, #glamping #retreatcenter #retreats #MarbleFalls #Texas #Community

I am honored to be welcoming Shannon Jamail back to the Girls 4 Greatness podcast this week. Shannon was my guest in the first season of the podcast, episode #15 entitled “The Power Of Surrender.” We are now sitting down to chat all about the amazing endeavors Shannon has since taken on while still maintaining her sanity as a devoted mother and wife.  Shannon is a best selling author of the amazing book Surrender, A Journey Toward A Fulfilled Life.  She also is the founder and creator of the Mind & Body Complete Family of Companies that includes her retreat center, Retreat Ranch outside of Austin, and her international product line of candles and body products.  In our conversation Shannon and I dive into how she has managed to shift gears in her career in order to impact women in a new and profound way.  We also discuss what it has taken for her to get to this new space in her life, as well as how we can all apply some of the lessons she has learned along the way. Please be sure to head to www.mindbodycomplete.com to find out more about Shannon and all the wonderful things she is up to.

You all know I love my “banana books.” Well, today on my Happy Hour Podcast, I am totally fangirling to introduce you to our special guest, Best Selling Author- Kathleen Tucker, also known as, K.A. Tucker and Nina West. She is the internationally bestselling author of the Ten Tiny Breaths and Burying Water series. In today's episode we hit her with questions about how she became a steamy romance writer, where she gets her ideas, and the pros and cons of self-publishing.  She also shares her favorite writers with us and we ask her some personal questions (like, you know, does her steamy writing benefit her husband?).  Links to books/authors mentioned: The Captive Prince Trilogy Where the Crawdads Sing The Pillars of the Earth Sarah J. Maas Elle Kennedy   About Kathleen Tucker K.A. Tucker writes captivating stories with an edge. She is the international bestselling author of over twenty novels. Her books have been featured in national publications including USA Today, Globe & Mail, Suspense Magazine, Publisher's Weekly, Oprah Mag, and First for Women. She has been nominated for the Goodreads Choice Award for Best Romance 2013 for TEN TINY BREATHS and Best Romance 2018 for THE SIMPLE WILD. KEEP HER SAFE made Suspense Magazine's Best of 2018 list for Romantic Suspense. K.A. Tucker currently resides in a quaint town outside of Toronto. Follow her on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter     About Happy Hour Podcast Welcome to the Happy Hour Podcast! I’m Shannon Jamail, the host of this show. I’m a performance coach and an author. Here in Happy Hour, we talk about life, relationships, business and other stuff with the intention to help each other connect, grow and thrive. About Stefanie - She is a yoga instructor and brings a passionate healing touch to all that she does. She’s also a certified birth and postpartum doula and a nurse. She lives in Newport Beach California with her husband and two beautiful kiddos. About Angie - She is an incredible lawyer that brings her determined and feisty attitude to everything she does. She’s the momma of two cute-as-hell dogs and an adorable cranky cat. She lives in Savannah Georgia with her fiancé. She’s also starting her training as a yoga teacher. Leave us a review: If you have not reviewed us, please scroll down and leave us one! Each one of your reviews really does mean the world to us and we appreciate it very much.  Thank you very much! If you know someone who might enjoy this episode, don’t forget to share this episode with them! Subscribe to Happy Hour podcast! Apple Podcasts Player.FM Listen Notes My Tuner-Radio Breaker Audio Hub Hopper The Podcast App Follow us on social media: Website: Happy Hour Podcast Facebook Instagram Twitter Pinterest

As women, we were raised with the idea that putting ourselves first is selfish. And now that we are adults and mothers, we tend to help and support others but don’t really make time to take care of ourselves and engage in activities that enrich us. We place everyone else's needs before our own and it is causing us strain. As the old saying goes “You have to put your own oxygen mask first before you put someone else's on." So true but also so hard to do! In today's episode, my good friends Stefanie, Angie and I talk all about self-care - how to start cultivating the routine, incorporating it in your life, tips on building long term habits, and why us women should stop apologizing for taking care of ourselves. We also share our own experiences going from zero self-care to it being a regular part of our lives.  If you are struggling and want to learn how you can begin building lifelong self-care habits, then this episode is for you!   Episode Highlights: Why self-care is extremely important during the pandemic How some women give up their identities when they become moms Why moms don’t prioritize it but need self-care the most Stefanie’s one-year yoga challenge How Angie’s hectic work-life sometimes gets in the way of self-care Stefanie’s own struggle with self-care as a mom Self-care methods: It’s different for everyone Starting small: The key to building long-term habits How established self-care routines help you through tough times How self-care is critical for overall health The importance of non-negotiable self-care methods Normalizing self-care by being an example to your children How to choose the right self-care method that fits you How you can start incorporating self-care in your life 30-day self-care challenge Why women should stop apologizing for taking care of themselves Getting your partner/spouse in the bandwagon for your routine   About the show: Welcome to the Happy Hour Podcast! I’m Shannon Jamail, the host of this show. I’m a performance coach and an author. Here in Happy Hour, we talk about life, relationships, business and other stuff with the intention to help each other connect, grow and thrive. About Stefanie - She is a yoga instructor and brings a passionate healing touch to all that she does. She’s also a certified birth and postpartum doula and a nurse. She lives in Newport Beach California with her husband and two beautiful kiddos. About Angie - She is an incredible lawyer that brings her determined and feisty attitude to everything she does. She’s the momma of two cute-as-hell dogs and an adorable cranky cat. She lives in Savannah Georgia with her fiance. She’s also starting her training as a yoga teacher. Resources mentioned: Retreats for women Leave us a review: If you have not reviewed us, please scroll down and leave us one! Each one of your reviews really does mean the world to us and we appreciate it very much. Thank you very much! If you know someone who might enjoy this episode, don’t forget to share this episode with them!   Subscribe to Happy Hour podcast! Apple Podcasts Player.FM Listen Notes My Tuner-Radio Breaker Audio Hub Hopper The Podcast App Follow us on social media: Website Happy Hour Podcast Facebook Instagram Twitter Pinterest

Anger is something we can all relate to. It’s something we’ve felt and it’s definitely something we have encountered in others. During this episode we talk about what is means when we feel angry now and how we interpret other people’s frustrations and some different perspectives to help- all in order to not experience the detrimental impact anger can have on our health.  Join the convo! About the show: Welcome to the Happy Hour Podcast! I’m Shannon Jamail, the host of this show. I’m a performance coach and an author. Here in Happy Hour, we talk about life, relationships, business and other stuff with the intention to help each other connect, grow and thrive. About Stefanie - She is a yoga instructor and brings a passionate healing touch to all that she does. She’s also a certified birth and postpartum doula and a nurse. She lives in Newport Beach California with her husband and two beautiful kiddos. About Angie - She is an incredible lawyer that brings her determined and feisty attitude to everything she does. She’s the momma of two cute-as-hell dogs and an adorable cranky cat. She lives in Savannah Georgia with her fiance. She’s also starting her training as a yoga teacher. Leave us a review: If you have not reviewed us, please scroll down and leave us one! Each one of your reviews really does mean the world to us and we appreciate it very much. Thank you very much! If you know someone who might enjoy this episode, don’t forget to share this episode with them!   Subscribe to Happy Hour podcast! Apple Podcasts Player.FM Listen Notes My Tuner-Radio Breaker Audio Hub Hopper The Podcast App Follow us on social media: Website Happy Hour Podcast Facebook Instagram Twitter Pinterest

In the beginning of every relationship, there’s a honeymoon phase. As the years pass and we begin to add reality to the relationship (living together, home, kids, lets, work, etc), our world together begins to evolve. Well, with this evolution comes adjustment, and let’s just say, some are better at adapting than others. Join us today as we discuss how our relationships have grown and pushed us to our limits.  About the show: Welcome to the Happy Hour Podcast! I’m Shannon Jamail, the host of this show. I’m a performance coach and an author. Here in Happy Hour, we talk about life, relationships, business and other stuff with the intention to help each other connect, grow and thrive. About Stefanie - She is a yoga instructor and brings a passionate healing touch to all that she does. She’s also a certified birth and postpartum doula and a nurse. She lives in Newport Beach California with her husband and two beautiful kiddos. About Angie - She is an incredible lawyer that brings her determined and feisty attitude to everything she does. She’s the momma of two cute-as-hell dogs and an adorable cranky cat. She lives in Savannah Georgia with her fiance. She’s also starting her training as a yoga teacher. Leave us a review: If you have not reviewed us, please scroll down and leave us one! Each one of your reviews really does mean the world to us and we appreciate it very much. Thank you very much! If you know someone who might enjoy this episode, don’t forget to share this episode with them! Subscribe to Happy Hour podcast! Apple Podcasts Player.FM Listen Notes My Tuner-Radio Breaker Audio Hub Hopper The Podcast App Follow us on social media: Website Happy Hour Podcast Facebook Instagram Twitter Pinterest

Ep 29 | Leaning Into Emotional Disruption with Shannon JamailIn this episode of the She Finds Joy podcast, Kim has a conversation with Shannon Jamail—the founder and creator of Mind & Body Complete. She is a best-selling author, podcast host, and therapist turned performance coach on a mission to elevate women in mind and body in order to connect, grow, and thrive.Shannon found traditional therapy to be extremely helpful, but realized that when we treat the person from a holistic standpoint, that significant changes can happen.In this episode, she explains that we all have emotional disruptions in our life, whether it’s at work, in our relationships, in our thinking, or a trauma we are dealing with. She also explains her three step system for making our way through our emotional disruptions that can lead to happiness and more fulfillment. In today’s episode, Kim and Shannon talk about…The reasons we get triggered by others’ actions and behaviors.Three ways of dealing with emotional disruption and getting through it.Why it’s so important to feel our feelings and not ignore them or bury them deep inside. Strategies for using the right side of your brain to regain emotional balance and stabilize the parasynthetic nervous system.Why your vagus nerve is so important to your emotional states. “...the only reason we get triggered by others is because it’s an insecurity within us…” - Shannon JamailHelpful Links Check out www.mindbodycomplete.com to learn about Shannon’s retreats and coaching practice.About ShannonShannon Jamial is the founder and creator of Mind & Body Complete. She is a best-selling author, podcast host, retreat leader, therapist turned performance coach and tequila connoisseur (not really but she does enjoy sipping on a good pour). Shannon has a passion and a mission to elevate women in mind and body in order to connect, grow, and thrive through her programs and intentional products. She lives on her ranch with her family in the Hill Country of Texas. Find out more about her at www.mindbodycomplete.com She also hosts her podcast, https://mindbodycomplete.com/podcast/. You can follow her on Instagram, Facebook, or check out her book! About KimKim Strobel is Chief Happiness Officer at Kim Strobel Live Events and Retreats. She is a teacher, consultant, motivational speaker, happiness coach, and mission-minded person whose passion is helping others overcome their fears and discover their joy! You can follow Kim’s journey on Instagram at @KimStrobelJoy and in the free private She Finds Joy Facebook community. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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This is the audio file from the Facebook live from The Modern Mom Society Facebook group discussing the content from Day 4 of the True You Summit where I give an overview of the day's speakers and a little about my "why" around the experts and topics that I chose for today. True You Spirit helps remove the obstacles that are in the way of us connecting to our divine self and what God, Jesus, the universe (or whatever you want to call it) and your soul truly wants for you while you're on this planet. Today's theme and summit speakers: Lola Wright, CEO & Spiritual Director, Bodhi Chicago - How discontent can serve our higher good and what to do about it Shannon Jamail, Mind Body Complete - Surrender and how it gets you closer to your true you Josefa Lan, Shaman & Intuitive Coach - Spiritual healing and how to uncover our true selves To access today's summit interviews, you can sign up at: https://trueyou.themodernmomsociety.com

This week I am doing something a little different. I have decided to highlight a podcast in which I had the honor of being the guest. Some of you may remember an episode I did a while ago with Shannon Jamail, author of the book Surrender and co-host of the Happy Hour Podcast. She and her awesome co-host Dee asked me to be a part of their 77th episode entitled, What is really holding women back? In this episode, we chat all about the power of mindset and how critical that is in overcoming our own limiting fears and beliefs. I have no doubt that you will enjoy this lively and fun conversation around a topic I think we all can relate to! Please be sure to check out further episodes of the Happy Hour Podcast by heading to itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/happy-hour-podcast-with-dee-and-shannon/id1186563181?mt

I’m so excited to welcome Shannon Jamail back to the SMA. I invited Shannon to come back to the show because I wanted to talk about her book, Surrender.  In the book, she shares how she conscientiously moved out of fear, anxiety, stress, negative thinking, judgment, and imposter syndrome and into forgiveness, surrender, love, joy, and purpose. Every chapter has a powerful story/experience from Shannon’s life, coupled with her lessons learned and actionable steps that are very accessible to the reader (you and me!) I found the book to be so helpful to me, especially when it comes to forgiveness and moving forward from the stuckness that old resentments keep you in. Listen in to hear Shannon share: How she had to apply her own principles of SURRENDER to her own life after she burned down her own kitchen (literally) How to embrace and move through anxiety and shift into a “Do it afraid” mindset How to move past resentment and into forgiveness in family relationships Active steps to forgiving someone How to more actively choose LOVE in your life and the universal truths to choosing love Links Mentioned: Connect with Shannon: Mind-Body Complete (use the code SHAMELESS10 to save 10% off Shannon’s shop/book/retreats!) Shannon on Facebook Shannon on Instagram   Shannon’s podcast, Happy Hour with Shannon and Dee Shannon on Twitter Shannon on LinkedIn Thank you to our sponsors: Talkspace: to find your perfect match therapist for a fraction of the cost of traditional therapy, go to Talkspace and use the code SHAMELESS at checkout to save $45 off your first month. Fabfitfun: To get $10 off your first subscription box (making it only $39.99 for $200 worth of products) go to Fabfitfun and use the code SHAMELESS at checkout.  

In this episode, we got to interview mom, yogi, wellness coach and published author, Shannon Jamail. Shannon has spent years in business and now uses her skills to help other women find balance and success in their personal and professional lives. Not only did Shannon share her practical wisdom with us when it comes to managing work, family and kids, we got to talk to her about the writing process and what led her publish her first book, Surrender: A journey towards a fulfilled life. 

Sponsor - Today's show is brought to you by the fastest growing personal development book series in the world, The Change and High Powered Success Academy at StaceyC.com. Inquire about coaching, booking, collaborating and publishing @ staceyc.com Today's Guest - Shannon Jamail is the author of 'Surrender,' a therapist turned coach, co-host of the Happy Hour podcast, and the founder of Mind Body Complete where she supports and guides women with resources and retreats that cultivate authenticity, purpose and joy. She is a passionate entrepreneur as well as a wife, mother of 4, yogi, wanna be hippie, and wine lover. This girl has overcome some stuff in her life and is an inspiration to all. Inquire @ mindbodycomplete.com discount code for purchase "TheChange" Your Host - Stacey Cargnelutti is a transformational leader and coach, international best selling author, founder of High Powered Success Academy and StaceyC.com— The Power to Be. She provokes thought, confronts complacency and empowers you to live a life of inspired action and purpose. Her high energy and love for God and people are contagious. inquire@ staceyc.com    

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Today I have the great pleasure of interviewing someone who knows a thing or two about the power of surrender. In fact, today’s guest has even written a book on the topic. Surrender, A Journey Towards A Fulfilled Life is all about the many different ways we can implement surrender into our lives. you can find the complete show notes on my website: www.girls4greatness.com/episode015

Level 10 lifestyle interview with Shannon Jamail. Shannon’s passion for helping others to succeed was sparked at a young age through her business and personal endeavors. Her past background as an Executive at a Fortune 500 company, along with her serial entrepreneurship of owning and selling successful businesses has ignited …

Fear.  Anxiety.  Negative thinking.  Imposter syndrome. Does this sound like you?  Shannon herself has been there; feeling like an imposter, worrying she will be found out and that she is not enough.  She has felt fear and let that both hold her back and push her forward.  She has struggled with anxiety and let it debilitate her in the past.  She has experienced obstacles that she herself created and cultivated a life around negative thoughts and stories.   Joyful. Authentic. Purpose Driven. Real. This is where you will now find her.  An imperfect, wanna-be hippy/ yogi that sometimes curses too much. Simple and basic, but pointed and raw in her teaching. She makes mistakes, likes to have fun, drinks wine and knows that in order to be present she has to be authentically herself.  And only in that authenticity can she experience real purpose and joy.   Drawing from her own personal life experiences and the privilege of working with thousands of others who have embarked on similar journeys, Shannon has the tools that she needs to effectively help women through her coaching, counseling, workshops, programs and retreats.   This is a really enlightening conversation about love, fear and the power of surrendering.  I know you’ll enjoy spending time with Shannon as much as I do!   Listen in to hear Shannon share: Why she’s uprooting her fam, embracing home schooling and embarking on tiny living (all things she never thought she could do) Why she has chosen Love Over Fear and the impact it has had on her life How she overcame her crippling fear of flying  The power of reprogramming your thoughts and your words The truth about surrender and ease and how they are connected to self doubt and confidence   Links Mentioned:  Website: http://www.mindbodycomplete.com Podcast: Happy Hour Podcast with Dee and Shannon Book: The Subtle of Not Giving a F*ck by Mark Manson Shannon on Facebook  Shannon on Twitter Shannon on Instagram