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My guest this week is founder of Enfold, a full-service 5-MeO-DMT facilitation program near Vancouver Canada that specializes in 5-day protocols with both vaporized and injectable 5-MeO-DMT. We had an excellent conversation that, for me, highlights many of the things that I like to encourage with 5-MeO-DMT facilitation. To learn more about Steve's work, visit the website Enfold.org 

Focused Transformation Coaching - A 6-week private coaching experience designed to help you move through one major block or transition in your life.In this deeply personal and illuminating solo episode, Lana explores one of the most overlooked yet transformative aspects of healing and consciousness work—learning to receive. Drawing inspiration from her 5-MeO-DMT experience and her work as an Energy Leadership coach, she breaks down why receiving often feels so difficult, the cultural conditioning that drives over-giving and over-functioning, and how we can shift our energy to create balance, trust, and flow.Apply for 1:1 energy coaching with LanaTopics Covered: The energetics of receiving as an active surrenderBreaking down the energy of the caregiverRecognizing when giving turns into over-givingReconnecting to balance between giving and receivingReprogramming the inner narratives that block receivingThe four energetic blocks: limiting beliefs, interpretations, assumptions, and gremlinsHow to shift from catabolic to anabolic (low to high) consciousnessTrusting life, love, and abundance as forms of receivingExplore Coaching with Lana:⁠Focused Transformation Coaching⁠ - 6 Week Micro-ProgramIboga Integration & Prep Coaching⁠⁠⁠ (NEW-now enrolling)Psychedelically Informed Life Coaching⁠⁠⁠ (6 Month Program)Stay Connected to Modern Psychedelics:Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@modernpsychedelics⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠Modern Psychedelics YouTube⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠www.modernpsychedelics.net⁠⁠⁠Substack: The Healthy Ego⁠⁠Free Resources:FREE Iboga Preparation Guide⁠FREE Set Better Goals⁠FREE Integration Journal ⁠FREE Intention Setting Journal⁠FREE Psychedelic Ceremony Checklist⁠FREE Playlists for Psychedelic Journeys + Integration⁠DISCLAIMER: Modern Psychedelics does not endorse or support the illegal consumption of any substances. This show is meant for entertainment purposes only. Modern Psychedelics does not sell or promote the sale of any illegal substances. The thoughts, views, and opinions on this show should not be taken as life advice, medicinal advice, or therapeutic guidance.

When Tony first came to Enfold with his wife, Chantel, he was searching for something that years of therapy and effort couldn't unlock: greater empathy. Despite his love for her, he often felt frozen in moments of her pain — unable to connect, unsure why. That first intensive opened the door. He began to feel her emotions and be with her through them, rather than analyze them, marking a profound shift in how he related to love, vulnerability, and safety.A year later, Tony returned on his own — no longer to save his marriage, but to understand himself. What unfolded was an intimate encounter with his deepest wound: abandonment. Through 5-MeO-DMT and a dedication to the integration work, Tony reconnected with the parts of himself that had never known safety or intimacy. In a moment of clarity, he realized that what he longed to give to others was what his own inner child had always needed — to simply be held.This second journey deepened Tony's relationship with himself — expanding his capacity for compassion, acceptance, and presence across his business, family, and spiritual path.In This EpisodeHow early emotional absence shaped Tony's struggle with empathyThe power of returning to the medicine with a new intentionUncovering abandonment as a lifelong survival patternHow integration practices like breathwork and IFS are the backbone of healingReconciling spiritual growth with an entrepreneurial driveLearning to face mortality with openness rather than fearWhy healing is less about breakthroughs and more about devotion to practice

My guest is DJ Shipley, a former Tier 1 operator Navy SEAL and now a top public educator on how to build mental and physical health and reach top-level performance in any endeavor. DJ's life is one marked by extraordinary strivings, wins, setbacks and comebacks that together have shaped his approach to overcoming challenges of all kinds and to daily life. DJ explains a regimen of clear, practical steps and a mental stance that can allow anyone—male, female, young or old—to build extreme resilience of mind and body and to be successful in family and work. We also discuss his experience with new, emerging treatments for addiction, PTSD and depression that many people, not just veterans, are benefiting from. The tools DJ describes to “stack small wins” and to be ultra-intentional about your mindset will be of immense benefit to anyone wishing to achieve the best version of themselves. Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AGZ by AG1: https://drinkagz.com/huberman Rorra: https://rorra.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman Function: https://functionhealth.com/huberman ROKA: https://roka.com/huberman Timestamps (0:00) DJ Shipley (4:03) Mental & Physical Health, Tools: Morning Routine & Micro-wins (8:35) Balancing Work & Family, Tools: Compartmentalization, "Control the Controllable" (13:46) Sponsors: Rorra & BetterHelp (16:25) Phones, Social Media vs Focus, Negativity, Tool: Consistency & Sleep (23:05) Routine & Stressors, Exercise & Benefits, Tool: Morning Workout (29:24) Body Awareness, Hurt vs Injury (33:53) Physical Injury & Rehab; Exercise; Mobility, Tool: 5-Day Workout Program (44:26) Sponsors: AGZ by AG1 & Eight Sleep (47:29) Skateboarding, Career, Navy SEAL, BUD/S & Embracing Discomfort (56:13) BUD/S, Motivation & Mental Resilience (1:02:18) Navy SEALs, Iraq War & Casualties, Compartmentalization (1:08:41) Public Press; Extortion 17, Operation Red Wings; Death of Friends (1:16:25) High Performers, Social Media Negativity & Legacy (1:19:37) Sponsor: Function (1:21:24) Family Legacy, Military & Purpose, Navy SEAL Culture, Wife & Relationship (1:30:10) Second Deployment, Helplessness & Trauma, Inspiration & Reverence (1:38:30) Skydiving, Injury & Mental Resilience; Medical Retirement & Addiction (1:49:17) Art Therapy, Skateboarding, Electrocution & Recovery (2:00:57) Physical Recovery, Trainer Vernon Griffith (2:04:38) Miracles, Higher Power; Work & Life Tension (2:12:52) Sponsor: ROKA (2:14:39) Physical & Mental Posture, Suicide, Depression, Tool: Control the Controllable (2:21:22) Suicide, Mental Health & Darkest Hour, Ibogaine, 5-MeO-DMT (2:31:18) Ibogaine & Empathy, 5-MeO-DMT & Ego Death; Returning Home, Tool: Dials Not Switches (2:42:42) Psychedelics, Mental Health Plasticity; Veterans' Solutions, Addiction (2:50:39) Medical Ibogaine, Anger, Numbing Out & Hate; Dogs (3:03:42) GBRS Program, High Standards, Functional Fitness, Tool: Fitness Test (3:17:50) Self-Care, Longevity & Fitness, GBRS Program (3:24:45) Self-Respect, Tools: 20-Minute Walk & Relationships; Micro-wins (3:32:57) Acknowledgements, American Flag Hat, Patriotism (3:40:00) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode summary Joe and Mary dive into how platform censorship and shifting algorithms have reshaped psychedelic media, why DoubleBlind moved to a “newsletter-first” model, and what that's revealed about true audience engagement. They reflect on the post-2024 MDMA decision headwinds, state-level policy moves (wins and losses), and how funding, politics, and culture continue to reconfigure the field. They also explore alternatives to alcohol, chronic pain research, reciprocity around iboga/ibogaine, and lessons from PS25 (MAPS' Psychedelic Science 2025). Highlights & themes From platforms to inboxes: Social and search suppression (IG/FB/Google) throttled harm-reduction journalism; DoubleBlind's pivot to email dramatically improved reach and engagement. Post-MDMA decision reality: Investment cooled; Mary frames it as painful but necessary growth—an ecosystem “airing out” rather than a catastrophic pop. Policy pulse: Mixed year—some state measures stalled (e.g., MA), others advanced (e.g., NM; ongoing Colorado process). Rescheduling cannabis may add complexity more than clarity. Censorship paradox: Suppressing education makes use less safe; independent outlets need community support to keep harm-reduction info visible. Chronic pain & long COVID: Emerging overlaps and training efforts (e.g., Psychedelics & Pain communities) point beyond a psychiatry-only frame. Alcohol alternatives: Low-dose or occasional psychedelic use can shift habits for some; Mary stresses individual context and support beyond any single substance. Reciprocity & iboga: Rising interest (including from right-leaning funders) must include Indigenous consultation and fair benefit-sharing; pace of capitalism vs. community care is an active tension. PS25 field notes: Smaller, more manageable vibe than 2023; fewer “gold-rush” expectations; in-person dialogue beats online flame wars. Notable mentions DoubleBlind: Newsletter-first publishing; nurturing new writers and reported stories. Psychedelics & Pain Association / Clusterbusters: Community-driven models informing care and research (cluster headache protocols history). Books & media: Body Autonomy (Synergetic Press anthology); Joanna Kempner's work on cluster headaches - Psychedelic Outlaws; Lucy Walker's forthcoming iboga film. Compounds to watch: LSD (under-studied relative to MDMA), 2C-B, 5-MeO-DMT (synthetic focus), and broader Shulgin-inspired families.   Mary Carreon: [00:00:00] Okay, I'm gonna send it to my dad because he wants to know. Here Joe Moore: we go. Yeah, send it over. So, hi everybody. We're live Joe here with Mary Anne, how you doing today? Mary Carreon: I'm great Joe. How are you? Joe Moore: Lovely. I actually never asked you how to pronounce your last name does say it right? Mary Carreon: Yes, you did. You said it perfectly Joe Moore: lovely. Joe Moore: Um, great. So it's been a bit, um, we are streaming on LinkedIn, YouTube, Twitch X and Kick, I guess. Yeah. Kick meta. Meta doesn't let me play anymore. Um, Mary Carreon: you're in forever. Timeout. I got it. I got it. Yeah. Joe Moore: Yeah. I think they found a post the other day from 2017. They didn't like, I'm like, oh cool. Like neat, you Mary Carreon: know, you know. Mary Carreon: Yeah. That happened to me recently, actually. Uh, I had a post taken down from 2018 about, uh, mushroom gummies and yeah, it was taken down and I have strikes on my account now. So Joe Moore: Do you get the thing where they ask you if you're okay? Mary Carreon: Yes, with, but like with my searches though, [00:01:00] like if I search something or, or someone's account that has, uh, like mushroom or psychedelic or LSD or something in it, they'll be like, mm-hmm are you okay? Mary Carreon: And then it recommends getting help. So Joe Moore: it's like, to be fair, I don't know if I'm okay, but Yeah, you're like, probably not. I don't really want your help. Meta. Yeah. Mary Carreon: You're like, I actually do need help, but not from you. Thanks. Yeah, Joe Moore: yeah, yeah. Mary Carreon: So not from the techno fascists. Joe Moore: Oh, good lord. Yeah. Uh, we'll go there. Joe Moore: I'm sure. Mary Carreon: I know. I just like really dove right there. Sorry. Yeah. All right, so let's, Joe Moore: um, before we go, let's give people like a bit of, you know, high kicks on, on who is Mary, where you working these days and what are you doing? Mary Carreon: Yeah, thank you. My name is Mary Carryon and I am forever and first and foremost a journalist. Mary Carreon: I have been covering, I say the plant legalization spaces for the past decade. It's, it's been nine and a half years. Uh, on January 3rd it will be [00:02:00] 10 years. And I got my start covering cannabis, uh, at OC Weekly. And from there went to High Times, and from there went to Mary Jane, worked for Snoop Dogg. And then, uh, I am now. Mary Carreon: Double blind. And I have become recently, as of this year, the editor in chief of Double Blind, and that's where I have been currently sinking my teeth into everything. So currently, you know, at this moment I'm an editor and I am basically also a curator. So, and, and somebody who is a, uh, I guess an observer of this space more than anything these days. Mary Carreon: Um, I'm not really reporting in the same way that I was. Um, but still I am helping many journalists tell stories and, uh, I feel kind of like a story midwife in many ways. Just like helping people produce stories and get the, get the quotes, get the angles that need to be discussed, get the sentences structures right, and, um, uh, helping [00:03:00] sometimes in a visionary kind of, uh, mindset. Mary Carreon: So yeah, that's what I'm doing these days. Joe Moore: Oh, there it is. Oh, there you are. Love that. And um, you know, it's important to have, um, editors who kind of really get it from a lot of different angles. I love that we have a lot of alignment on this kind of, and the drug war thing and kind of let's, uh, hopefully start developing systems that are for people. Joe Moore: Yeah, absolutely. If you wanna just say that. Yeah, absolutely. Mary Carreon: Yeah, absolutely. Joe Moore: So, um, yeah, I almost 10 years in January. That's great. We um, it's so crazy that it's been that long. I think we just turned nine and a half, so we're maybe just a few, a few months shorter than your I love it. Plant medicine reporting career. Joe Moore: That's great. I love it. Um, yeah, so I think. I think one of the first times we chatted, [00:04:00] um, I think you were doing a piece about two cb Do you, do you have any recollection of doing a piece on two cb? Mary Carreon: I do, yes. Yes. Wait, I also remember hitting you up during an Instagram live and I was like, are you guys taking any writers? Mary Carreon: And you guys were like writers, I mean, maybe depending on the writer. Joe Moore: And I was like, I was like, I dunno how that works. Mary Carreon: Like me. Yeah. Joe Moore: Yeah. It was fun. It was fun to work with people like yourself and like get pieces out there. And eventually we had an awesome editor for a bit and that was, that was really cool to be able to like support young startup writers who have a lot of opinions and a lot of things to point out. Joe Moore: There's so much happening. Um, there was so much fraud in like wave one. Of kind of the psychedelic investment hype. There's still some, but it's lesser. Um, and it's really a fascinating space still. Like changing lives, changing not just lives, right? Like our [00:05:00] perspective towards nearly everything, right? Joe Moore: Yeah. Mary Carreon: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, it's interesting because the space has matured. It's evolved. It's different than it was even, what a, I mean, definitely nine years ago, but even five years ago, even four years ago, even last year, things are different. The landscape is different than it was a year ago. Mary Carreon: And I, it's, it's interesting to see the politics of things. It's interesting to see who has money these days given like how hard it is just to kind of survive in this space. And it's interesting just to. Bear witness to all of this going down because it really is a once in a lifetime thing. Nothing is gonna look the same as it does now, as it, uh, then it will like in a, in a year from now or anything. Mary Carreon: So it's really, yeah. It's interesting to take account of all of this Joe Moore: That's so real. Uh, maybe a little [00:06:00] too real, like it's serious because like with everything that's going on from, um, you know, governance, governments, ai Yes. Drug policy shifts. Drug tech shifts, yes. There's so much interesting movement. Um, yes. Joe Moore: You, you know, you, you kind of called it out and I think it's really actually worth discussing here since we're both here on the air together, like this idea that the psychedelic market, not idea, the lived experience of the psychedelic market having shifted substantially. And I, I, I think there's a lot of causes. Joe Moore: But I've never had the opportunity to really chat with you about this kind of like interesting downturn in money flowing into the space. Mm-hmm. Have you thought about it? Like what might the causes be? I'm sure you have. Mary Carreon: Yeah. Yeah, I have. Yeah. I've thought about it. I mean, it's hard. Well, I don't know. I am really not trying to point fingers and that's not what I'm [00:07:00] trying to do here. Mary Carreon: But I mean, I think a lot of people were really hopeful that the FDA decision last June, not last June, the previous June, a year ago, 2024, June was going to open the floodgates in terms of funding, in terms of, um. In terms of mostly funding, but also just greater opportunities for the space and, uh, greater legitimacy granted to the psychedelic medicine space. Mary Carreon: Mm. And for those who might not know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the, uh, FDA decision to reject, uh, MDMA assisted therapy and, um, that whole, that whole thing that happened, I'm sure if it, you didn't even have to really understand what was going on in order to get wind of that wild situation. Mary Carreon: Um, so, so maybe, yeah. You probably know what I'm talking about, but I, I do think that that had a great impact on this space. Do I think it was detrimental to this space? [00:08:00] I don't think so. We are in a growth spurt, you know, like we are growing and growing pains happen when you are evolving and changing and learning and figuring out the way forward. Mary Carreon: So I think it was kind of a natural process for all of this and. If things had gone forward like while, yeah, there probably would be more money, there would be greater opportunity in this space for people wanting to get in and get jobs and make a living and have a life for themselves in this, in this world. Mary Carreon: I don't know if it was, I don't know if it would necessarily be for the betterment of the space in general for the long term. I think that we do have to go through challenges in order for the best case scenarios to play out in the future, even though that's difficult to say now because so many of us are struggling. Mary Carreon: So, but I, but I have hope and, and that statement is coming from a place of hope for the future of this space and this culture. Joe Moore: Yeah. It's, um, I'm with [00:09:00] you. Like we have to see boom bust cycles. We have to see growth and contraction just like natural ecosystems do. Mary Carreon: Absolutely, absolutely. It has to be that way. Mary Carreon: And if it's not that way, then ifs, if. It's, it like what forms in place of that is a big bubble or like a, a hot air balloon that's inevitably going to pop, which, like, we are kind of experiencing that. But I think that the, I think that the, um, the, the air letting out of the balloon right now is a much softer experience than it would be if everything was just like a green light all the way forward, if that makes sense. Mary Carreon: So, Joe Moore: right. And there's, there's so many factors. Like I'm, I'm thinking about, uh, metas censorship like we were talking about before. Yes. Other big tech censorship, right? Mm-hmm. SEO shifts. Mary Carreon: Oh. Um, yes, absolutely. Also, uh, there were some pretty major initiatives on the state level that did not pass also this past year that really would've also kind of [00:10:00] helped the landscape a little bit. Mary Carreon: Um. In terms of creating jobs, in terms of creating opportunities for funding, in terms of having more, uh, like the perception of safer money flow into the space and that, you know, those, those things didn't happen. For instance, the measure for in Massachusetts that didn't go through and just, you know, other things that didn't happen. Mary Carreon: However, there have been really good things too, in terms of, uh, legalization or various forms of legalization, and that's in New Mexico, so we can't, you know, forget that there, and we also can't forget just the movement happening in Colorado. So there are really great things happening and the, the movement is still moving forward. Mary Carreon: Everything is still going. It's just a little more difficult than maybe it could have been Joe Moore: right. Yeah. Amen. Amen. Yes. But also, we Mary Carreon: can't forget this censorship thing. The censorship thing is a horse shit. Sorry. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to cuss, but it is, [00:11:00] but it is Joe Moore: calling it out and it's important to say this stuff. Joe Moore: And you know, folks, if you want to support independent media, please consider supporting Doubleblind and psychedelics today. From a media perspective, absolutely. We wanna wanna put as much out as we can. Yes. The more supporters we have, the more we can help all of you understand what's happening and yes. Joe Moore: Getting you to stay safer. Mary Carreon: Yeah, absolutely. And that's the whole difficulty with the censorship is that psychedelics today, and Doubleblind for instance, but also Lucid News, also other, uh, other influencers, other creators in the space, they like. What all of us are doing is putting out information that is ultimately creating a safer user experience. Mary Carreon: And so with the censorship, we are not able to do so anymore, which creates actually a lot of danger. So. Yeah, it's, it's difficult. The censorship is difficult, and if you are somebody who posts about psychedelics, I know that you know this and I am preaching to the choir. Joe Moore: Yeah. So can you talk a [00:12:00] little bit about you all at Double Blind made a major shift in the last number of months towards, uh, kind of not necessarily putting everything out there and, and kind of like, um, actually I don't even know the language you use. Joe Moore: What's the, what's the language you use for the kind of model shift you took on? Mary Carreon: Yeah, I mean, it's great. It's been a wild shift. It's been a wild shift. Um, what we are currently doing is we went to a newsletter first model, which instead of just posting onto a website for everyone to see, and then, um, you know, hopefully getting SEO hits and also posting on their, then posting those stories onto Instagram and Facebook and Twitter, and hoping to get traffic through social media. Mary Carreon: Uh, we decided that that was no longer working for us because it wasn't, um, because the censorship is so bad on, on social media, like on Instagram, for instance, and Facebook and Twitter, well, less on Twitter, [00:13:00] but still, nonetheless on social media, the censorship is so bad. And also the censorship exists on Google. Mary Carreon: When you Google search how to take mushrooms, double blinds is not even on. You know, our guide is not on the first page. It's like, you know, way the heck, way the heck down there. Maybe page 2, 3, 4, 5. I don't know. But, um, the issue, the issue with that, or, or the reason why rather that it's that way is because Google is prioritizing, um, like rehabilitation centers for this information. Mary Carreon: And also they are prioritizing, uh, medical information. So, like WebMD for instance. And all of these organizations that Google is now prioritizing are u are, are, are, are organizations that see psychedelic use through the lens of addiction or through drug drug abuse. So [00:14:00] again, you know, I don't know, take it for how you want to, I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna tell anybody like what is the right way to use their substances or whatever. Mary Carreon: However, it's really important to have the proper harm reduction resources and tools available. Uh, just readily available, not five pages down on a Google search. So anyways, all of that said double blind was our traffic was way down. And it was looking very bleak for a while. Just we were getting kicked off of Instagram. Mary Carreon: We weren't getting any traffic from social media onto our website, onto our stories. It was a, it was a vicious kind of cycle downward, and it wasn't really working. And there was a moment there where Doubleblind almost shut down as a result of these numbers because there's a, like you, a media company cannot sustain itself on really low page views as a result. Mary Carreon: So what we [00:15:00] decided to do was go to a newsletter first model, which relies on our email list. And basically we are sending out newsletters three days a week of new original content, mostly, uh, sometimes on Wednesdays we repost an SEO story or something like that. Um, to just to engage our audience and to work with our audience that way, and to like to actually engage our audience. Mary Carreon: I cannot emphasize that enough because on Instagram and on Facebook, we were only reaching like, I don't know, not that many people, like not that many people at all. And all of that really became obvious as soon as we started sending out to our email list. And as soon as we did that, it was wild. How many, how many views to the website and also how many just open like our open rate and our click through rate were showing how our audience was reacting to our content. Mary Carreon: In other words. [00:16:00] Social media was not a good, in, like, was not a good indicator of how our content was being received at all because people kind of weren't even receiving it. So going to the newsletter first model proved to be very beneficial for us and our numbers. And also just reaching our freaking audience, which we were barely doing, I guess, on social media, which is, which is wild, you know, for, for a, an account that has a lot of followers, I forget at this exact moment, but we have a ton, double blind, has a ton of followers on, on Instagram. Mary Carreon: We were, we, we get like 500 likes or, you know, maybe like. I don't know. If you're not looking at likes and you're looking at views, like sometimes we get like 16 K views, which, you know, seems good, but also compared to the amount of followers who follow us, it's like not really that great. And we're never reaching new, like a new audience. Mary Carreon: We're always reaching the same audience too, [00:17:00] which is interesting because even with our news, with our, with our email list, we are still reaching new people, which is, which says just how much more fluid that space is. Mm-hmm. And it's because it's, because censorship does not at least yet exist in our inboxes. Mary Carreon: And so therefore email is kind of like the underground, if you will, for this kind of content and this type of material journalism, et cetera. So, so yeah. So it, it, it has been a massive shift. It is required a lot of changes over at double blind. Everything has been very intense and crazy, but it has been absolutely worth it, and it's really exciting that we're still here. Mary Carreon: I'm so grateful that Double-Blind is still around, that we are still able to tell stories and that we are still able to work with writers and nurture writers and nurture the storytelling in this space because it needs to evolve just the same way that the industry and the [00:18:00] culture and everything else is evolving. Joe Moore: Yeah, I think, I think you're spot on like the, when I watch our Instagram account, like, um, I haven't seen the number change from 107 K for two years. Mary Carreon: Absolutely. Same. And, um, same. Joe Moore: Yeah. And you know, I think, I think there's certain kinds of content that could do fine. I think, uh, psychedelic attorney, Robert Rush put up a comment, um, in response to Jack Coline's account getting taken down, um, that had some good analysis, um. Joe Moore: Of the situation. Go ahead. You had No, Mary Carreon: no, I'm just like, you know, I can't, when, when journalists are getting kicked off of these, of these platforms for their stories, for their reported stories, that's like, that is a massive red flag. And that's all I have to say. I mean, we could go into more, more details on that, but that is a [00:19:00] huge red flag. Joe Moore: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, for sure. The, I, yeah. And like I'm sure he'll get it back. I'm sure that's not for good, but I think he did. Okay, great. Mary Carreon: I think he did. Yeah. Yeah, I think he did. Joe Moore: Yeah. So thank you. Shout out to Jack. Yeah, thanks Jack. Um, and I think, you know, there's, there's no one with that kind of energy out there. Joe Moore: Um, and I'm excited to see what happens over time with him. Yeah. How he'll unfold. Absolutely unfold. Oh yeah. It's like, um. Crushing the beat. Mary Carreon: Oh yeah, absolutely. Especially the political, the political beat. Like, there's no, there's few people who are really tackling that specific sector, which is like mm-hmm. Mary Carreon: So exciting for a journalist. Joe Moore: Yeah. Um, so model shifting, like we all have to like, adapt in new ways. Kyle and I are still trying to figure out what we're gonna do. Like maybe it is newsletter first. Like I, I realized that I hadn't been writing for [00:20:00] years, which is problematic, um, in that like, I have a lot of things to say. Mary Carreon: Totally. Joe Moore: And nobody got to hear it. Um, so I started a substack, which I had complicated feelings about honestly. 'cause it's just another. Rich person's platform that I'm, you know, helping them get Andreessen money or whatever. And, you know, so I'm gonna play lightly there, but I will post here and there. Um, I'm just trying to figure it all out, you know, like I've put up a couple articles like this GLP one and Mushrooms article. Mary Carreon: I saw that. I saw that. Really? And honestly, that's a really, like, it's so weird, but I don't, like, it's such a weird little thing that's happening in the space. I wonder, yeah, I wonder, I wonder how that is going to evolve. It's um, you know, a lot of people, I, I briefly kind of wrote about, um, psychedelics and the GLP, is that what it is? Mary Carreon: GLP one. Joe Moore: GLP one. Say Ozempic. Yeah, just, yeah, Ozempic. Yeah, exactly. Mary Carreon: Yeah, exactly. I wrote about [00:21:00] that briefly last year and there were a bunch of people like obviously horrified, which it is kind of horrifying, but also there's a bunch of people who believe that it is extremely cutting edge, which it also is. Mary Carreon: So it's really interesting, really fascinating. Joe Moore: Yeah. Um, I remember Bernie Sanders saying like, if this drug gets as much traction as it needs to, it will bankrupt Medicaid. I guess that's not really a problem anymore. Um, but, but, uh, but so like naming it real quick, like it changed the way we had to digest things, therefore, like mushrooms get digested differently and, um, some people don't respond in the expected ways. Joe Moore: And then there was some follow up, oh, we, in the regulated model, we just do lemon tech. And then I was like, is that legal in the regulated model? And I, I don't know the answer still. Mm-hmm. Like there was a couple things, you know, if users know to do it, you know, I don't, I don't totally understand the regulated model's so strange in Oregon, Colorado, that like, we really need a couple lawyers opinions. Joe Moore: Right. I think Mary Carreon: yes, of course Joe Moore: the lawyers just gave it a [00:22:00] thumbs up. They didn't even comment on the post, which is, laughs: thanks guys. Um, Joe Moore: but you know, laughs: yeah. You're like, thank you. Joe Moore: Thanks and diversity of opinions. So yeah, there's that. And like GLP ones are so interesting in that they're, one friend reached out and said she's using it in a microdose format for chronic neuroinflammation, which I had never heard of before. Joe Moore: Whoa. And um, I think, you know, articles like that, my intent was to just say, Hey, researchers yet another thing to look at. Like, there's no end to what we need to be looking at. Abso Mary Carreon: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. You know, reporting on this space actually taught me that there's so much just in general that isn't being researched, whether that's in this space, but also beyond and how, um, yeah, just how behind, actually, maybe not, maybe behind isn't the right word, but it kind of feels from my novice and from my novice place in the, in the world and [00:23:00] understanding research, it's. Mary Carreon: Hard for me to see it as anything, but being behind in the research that we all really need, that's really going to benefit humanity. But also, you know, I get that it's because of funding and politics and whatever, whatever, you know, we can go on for days on all of that. Joe Moore: What's the real reason? What's the real reason? Joe Moore: Well, drug war. Mary Carreon: Yeah. Well, yeah, definitely the drug war. Nixon. Yeah. Yes, yes, definitely the drug war. Yeah. I mean, and just the fact that even all of the drug research that happens is, again, through the lens of addiction and drug abuse, so Joe Moore: mm-hmm. Hard to right. Yeah. Um, like ni a is obviously really ridiculous and, and the way they approach this stuff, and Carl Hart illustrates that well, and, Mary Carreon: oh man, yes, he does. Joe Moore: Like, I think Fadiman's lab in Palo Alto got shut down, like 67, 66 or 67, and like that's, you know, that was one of the later ones, Mary Carreon: right? And, Joe Moore: and like, Mary Carreon: and here we are. Joe Moore: The amount of suffering that could have been alleviated if we [00:24:00] had not done this is. Incalculable. Um, yes. Yes. Yeah. Mary Carreon: I mean the, yeah, it's hard to say exactly how specifically it would be different, but it's difficult to also not think that the fentanyl crisis and the opioid addiction rate and situation that is currently like plaguing the, the world, but particularly the United States, it's hard to think that it wouldn't be, like, it wouldn't be a different scenario altogether. Joe Moore: Right, right. Absolutely. Um, and it's, um, it's interesting to speculate about, right? Like Yeah. Yes. Where would we be? And Mary Carreon: I know, I know, I know, I know it is speculation. Absolutely. But it's like hard, as I said, it's hard not to think that things would be different. Joe Moore: Right. Right. Um, I like, there's two kind of quotes, like, um, not, this one's not really a quote. Joe Moore: Like, we haven't really had a [00:25:00] blockbuster psychiatric med since Prozac, and I think that was in the eighties or early nineties, which is terrifying. And then, um, I think this guy's name is James Hillman. He is kinda like a Jungian, um, educator and I think the title of one of his books is, we're a hundred Years Into Psychotherapy and the World is Still a Mess. Joe Moore: And I think like those two things are like, okay, so two different very white people approaches didn't go very far. Yes. Um, yes and laughs: mm-hmm. Joe Moore: Thankfully, I think a lot of people are seeing that. Mm-hmm. Um, finally and kind of putting energy into different ways. Um, Mary Carreon: yeah. Absolutely. I think, yeah, I mean, we need to be exploring the other options at this point because what is currently happening isn't working on many fronts, but including in terms of mental health especially. Mary Carreon: So mm-hmm. We gotta get going. Right? We [00:26:00] gotta get moving. Geez. Joe Moore: Have you all, have you all seen much of the information around chronic pain treatments? Like I'm, I'm a founding board member with the Psychedelics and Pain Association, which has a really fun project. Oh, that's interesting. Mary Carreon: Um, I've seen some of the studies around that and it's endlessly fascinating for obvious, for obvious reasons. Mary Carreon: I, um, we have a writer who's been working for a long time on a story, uh, about the chronic pain that has since. Become an issue for this, for her, for the writer. Mm-hmm. Um, since she had COVID. Mm-hmm. Since, since she is just like, COVID was the onset basically of this chronic pain. And, um, there she attended a psychedelics in pain, chronic pain conference and, uh, that has pretty much like, changed her world. Mary Carreon: Um, well, in terms of just the information that's out there, not necessarily that she's painless, but it's just, you know, offering a, a brand new, a brand new road, a brand new path that is giving her, [00:27:00] um, relief on days when the pain is, uh, substantial. laughs: Yeah. Mary Carreon: So that's interesting. And a lot of people are experiencing that as well. Joe Moore: Mm-hmm. So there's, there's a really cool set of overlap between the COVID researchers, long COVID researchers and the chronic pain people. 'cause there is Yes. This new science of pain that's yes. Our group, PPA put out like a really robust kind of training, um, for clinicians and researchers and even patients to get more educated. Joe Moore: And we're, we're getting, um, kind of boostered by cluster busters and we're kind of leveraging a lot of what they've done. Mary Carreon: Wait, what is a cluster buster? Joe Moore: Oh gosh. Um, so they're a 5 0 1 C3. Okay. Started with Bob Wald. Okay. Bob Wald is a cluster headache survivor. Oh, oh, oh, Mary Carreon: okay. Got it. Got it. Yes. So they're Joe Moore: the charity that, um, has been really championing, um, cluster headache research because they found a protocol [00:28:00] with mushrooms. Joe Moore: Yes, yes, yes. To eliminate. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, this really great, I Mary Carreon: love that. Joe Moore: This really great book was written by a Rutgers, um, I think medical sociologist or anthropologist psychedelic. Love laughs: that. Joe Moore: Joanna Kempner. Cool. Um, and it kind of talks about the whole, um, cluster busters saga, and it was, it was pretty cool. Joe Moore: Nice. So they've been at it for about as long as maps. Um, oh wow. Maybe a little earlier. Maybe a little later. Mary Carreon: I love that. Cool. I mean, yeah, that's really great. That's really great. Joe Moore: So we're copying their playbook in a lot of ways and Cool. We about to be our own 5 0 1 C3 and, um, nice. And that should be really fun. Joe Moore: And, uh, the next conference is coming up at the end of next month if people wanna check that out. Psychedelic. Nice. Mary Carreon: Nice, nice, nice. Cool. Joe Moore: Yeah, so that, like, how I leaned into that was not only did I get a lot of help from chronic pain with psychedelics and going to Phish shows and whatever, um, you know, I, and overuse for sure helped me somehow. Joe Moore: [00:29:00] Um, God bless. Yeah. But I, I like it because it breaks us out of the psychiatry only frame for psychedelics. Mm. And starts to make space for other categories. Mm-hmm. Is one of the bigger reasons I like it. Mary Carreon: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Which, like, we need to be, we need to, we, no one else is gonna do it for us. We like the people in the space who are finding new uses for these substances need to be creating those, those pathways and those new niches for people to then begin studying, et cetera, and exploring and yeah. Mary Carreon: Making, making a proper avenue for, Joe Moore: right, right. And, you know, um, I don't know that this is a Maha thing, so No, I'm going there, I guess, but like, how do we kind of face squarely America and the world's drinking problems? Not [00:30:00] knowing what we know now about alcohol, you know what I mean? And then like, what are the alternatives? Joe Moore: You know, some, some writers out there on substack are very firm that everybody needs to not do any substance. And like all psychedelics are super bad and drugs are evil, you know, famous sub stackers that I won't name. But you know, like what is the alternative? Like, I, like we have to have something beyond alcohol. Joe Moore: And I think you've found some cannabis helpful for that. Mary Carreon: Yeah, I, you know, it's, it's interesting because it's, there are, there's definitely an argument to be made for the power of these substances in helping, I don't wanna, I don't wanna say curb, but definitely reduce the symptoms of, uh, wanting to use or to drink or to consume a specific substance. Mary Carreon: There's obviously there is an argument to be made. There are, there is ano another camp of people who are kind [00:31:00] of in the, in the, in the, in the realm of using a drug to get off of a drug isn't how you do it. However, and, and I do, it depends on the individual. It depends on the individual and the, and how that person is engaging with their own addiction. Mary Carreon: I think for whether or not the substances work, like whether psychedelics work to help somebody kind of get off of alcohol or get off of cocaine or stop using opioids or, you know, et cetera. Mm-hmm. However, I think like, when the situation is so dire, we need to be trying everything. And if that means, like, if, like, you know, if you look at the studies for like smoking cessation or alcohol use, mushrooms do help, psilocybin does help with that. Mary Carreon: Mm-hmm. But, you know, there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of things that also need to happen. There's a lot of things that also need to happen in order for those, uh, that relief to maintain and to stick and to, uh, really guide [00:32:00] somebody off of those substances. Mm-hmm. It's not just the substance itself. Joe Moore: Right. So I'm, I'm explicitly talking like recreational alternatives, right. Like how do I Yeah. On per minute, like, am Anitas becoming helpful? Yeah, yeah. Are helpful and Yeah. Yeah. I think like even, um, normal. What we might call like normal American alcohol use. Like Yeah. That's still like, quite carcinogenic and like, um, absolutely. Joe Moore: We're kind of trying to spend less as a country on cancer treatments, which I hope is true. Then how do we, how do we develop things that are, you know, not just abstinence only programs, which we know for sure aren't great. Mary Carreon: Yeah. They don't work. Yeah. I don't, it's, it's difficult. Mm-hmm. It's difficult to say. Mary Carreon: I mean mm-hmm. I don't know. Obviously I, I, well, maybe it's not obvious at all for people who don't know me, but, you know, I exist in a, I exist in, in a world where recreational use is like, it's like hard to define what recreational use is because if we are using this, if we are using mushrooms or LSD even, or MDMA, [00:33:00] you know, there are so many, there's a lot of the therapy that can happen through the use of these substances, even if we're not doing it, you know, with a blindfold on or whatever and yeah, I think like. Mary Carreon: There is a decent swap that can happen if you, if you are somebody who doesn't wanna be, you know, having like three beers a night, or if you are somebody who's like, you know, maybe not trying to have like a bottle of wine at a night or something like that, you know, because like Americans drink a lot and a lot of the way that we drink is, um, you know, like we don't see it as alcoholism. Mary Carreon: Even though it could be, it could be that's like a difficult Joe Moore: potentially subclinical, but right there. Mary Carreon: Um, yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, it's, um, we don't see it as that because everybody, a lot of people, not everybody, but a lot of people drink like that, if that makes sense. If you know mm-hmm. If you, if you get what I'm, if you get what I'm saying. Mary Carreon: So, you know, I do think that there's a lot of benefit that, I don't [00:34:00] know, having, like a, having a mushroom, having a mushroom experience can really help. Or sometimes even like low dose, low doses of mushrooms can also really help with, like, with the. Desire to reach for a drink. Yeah, totally. And, and AMS as well. Mary Carreon: I know that that's also helping people a lot too. And again, outside of the clinical framework. Joe Moore: Yeah. I'm, a lot of people project on me that I'm just like constantly doing everything all the time and I'm, I'm the most sober I've been since high school. You know, like it's bonkers that like Yeah. Um, and you know, probably the healthiest event since high school too. Joe Moore: Yeah. But it's fa it's fascinating that like, you know, psychedelics kind of helped get here and even if it was like For sure something that didn't look like therapy. Yeah, Mary Carreon: yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I, I think, I think most of us here in this space are getting projected on as to like, you know, being like what Normies would consider druggies or something, or that we are just like, you know, high all the time. Mary Carreon: Um, [00:35:00] I know that that is definitely something that I face regularly, like out in the world. Um, but, you know, I would also, I would also argue that. Uh, like mushrooms have completely altered my approach to health, my approach to mental health, and not even having to consume that, you know, that substance in order or that, you know, that fun fungi, in order for me to like tap into taking care of my mental health or approaching better, uh, food options, et cetera. Mary Carreon: It's kind of like what these, it's like how the mushrooms continue to help you even after you have taken them. Like the messages still keep coming through if you work with them in that capacity. Right. And yeah, and also same with, same with LSD too. LSD has also kind my experiences with that have also guided me towards a healthier path as well. Mary Carreon: I, I understand that maybe for some people it's not that way, but, um, for me that substance is a medicine as well, [00:36:00] or it can be. Joe Moore: Yeah. Um, so. What are, what are some things popping up these days about like US drug policy that's like getting exciting for you? Like, are you feeling feeling like a looming optimism about a, a major shift? Joe Moore: Are you kind of like cautiously optimistic with some of the weird kind of mandatory minimum stuff that's coming up or? Mary Carreon: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know that there was a huge, a, a pretty huge shift over at the DEA and I wish I remembered, I wish I remembered his name. The new guy who's now, I believe the head of the DEA, I don't know enough information about it to really feel a way. Mary Carreon: However, I don't think that he's necessarily going to be serving us as a community here, uh, in the psychedelic space. I, you know, I just don't think that that's something that we can ever depend on with the DEA. Uh, I also don't think that [00:37:00] the DEA is necessarily going to be. All that helpful to cannabis, like the cannabis space either. Mary Carreon: Um, I know that, that Trump keeps kind of discussing or, or dangling a carrot around the rescheduling of cannabis. Um, for, he's been, he's been, but he's doing it a lot more now. He's been talking about it more recently. Uh, he says like, in the next like couple weeks that he's going to have some kind of decision around that, allegedly. Mary Carreon: But we will see also, I'm not sure that it's going to necessarily help anybody if we reschedule two. Uh, what from schedule one to schedule th two, three, schedule three. Joe Moore: Either way it's like not that useful. Right. Exactly. Mary Carreon: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's, um, just going to probably cause a lot more red tape and a lot of confusion for the state rec markets. Mary Carreon: So it's like something that we, it's like only ridden with unintentional, unintentional consequences. Unintended consequences. Mm-hmm. Because no one knows how it's really going to [00:38:00] impact anything, um, if, if at all. But I don't know. It's hard, it's hard to imagine that there won't be any, uh, like more complex regulatory issues for business owners and also probably consumers as well. Joe Moore: Hmm. Yeah. This guy's name's Terry Cole. Mary Carreon: Oh, the new DEA guy. Joe Moore: Yeah. Um, I don't know much about him. Terry. Yeah. Terry, I would love to chat. Mary Carreon: Yeah. Terry, let's talk. I'm sure your people Joe Moore: are watching. Yeah. So like, just let him know. We wanna chat. Yeah. We'll come to DC and chat it out. Um, yeah. It's, um, but yeah, I, Carl Hart's solution to me makes like almost most of the sense in the world to just end the scheduling system Absolutely. Joe Moore: And start building some sort of infrastructure to keep people safe. That's clearly not what we have today. Mary Carreon: No. But building an infrastructure around the health and wellness and uh, safety of [00:39:00] people is the exact opposite system that we have currently right now. Because also the scheduling system has a lot to do with the incarceration in the United States and the criminal just, or the criminal system. Mary Carreon: So, so yeah, like we can't disentangle the two really. Joe Moore: It just started, um, I feel negligent on this. Uh, synergetic press put out a book like a year or two ago called Body Autonomy. Mm-hmm. Um, did that one come across your desk at all? Mm-hmm. No. I wish basically contributed. Oh, nice. A number of people. So it's both like, um. Joe Moore: Drug policy commentary and then like sex work commentary. Oh, nice. And it was like high level, like love that really, really incredible love that detailed science based conversations, which is not what we have around this. Like, that doesn't make me feel good. So you should go to jail kind of stuff. Or like, I'm gonna humiliate you for real though. Joe Moore: Ticket. Yeah, Mary Carreon: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh God. Uh, when you think about it like that, it just really also shows [00:40:00] just the uh, um, the level at which religion has also kind of fundamentally infused itself into the scheduling system, but also our laws, you know, like what you just said, this like, shame-based, I'm going to embarrass you and make you into a criminal when you know actually you are a law for the most part, a law abiding citizen, with the exception of this one thing that you're doing for. Mary Carreon: A, your survival and or your, like, your feeling good, wanting to feel good addressing pain. Um, there's a large, uh, like noise coming out of the front yard of my house right now. Hold on. Just a, it doesn't sound too bad. It doesn't sound too bad. Okay. Okay, good. Not at all. Not at all. Okay. Yeah, I had Joe Moore: people working on my roof all day and somehow it worked out. Joe Moore: Oh, good. Um, yeah. Um, yeah, it's, it's fascinating and I, I've been coming around like, I, I identify as politically confused, [00:41:00] um, and I feel like it's the most honest way I can be. Um, Mary Carreon: I am also politically confused these days, impossible to align with any, uh, party or group currently in existence at this exact juncture in American history. Joe Moore: I can't find any that I want to throw my dice in with. Nah. This idea of like fucking way being. Like what is the most humane way to do government as a way it's been put to me recently. And that's interesting. So it comes down to like coercion, are we caring for people, things like that. And um, I don't think we're doing it in a super humane way right now. Mary Carreon: Um, we, yeah, I am pretty sure that even if there was, I mean, I think that even if we looked at the data, the data would support that we are not doing it in a humane way. Joe Moore: So Mary Carreon: unfortunately, and Joe Moore: you know, this whole tech thing, like the tech oligarch thing, you kind of dropped at the beginning and I think it's worth bringing that back because we're, we're on all [00:42:00] these tech platforms. Joe Moore: Like that's kind of like how we're transmitting it to people who are participating in these other platforms and like, you know, it's not all meta. I did turn on my personal Facebook, so everybody's watching it there. I hope. Um, see if that count gets, Mary Carreon: um, Joe Moore: but you know, this idea that a certain number of private corporations kind of control. Joe Moore: A huge portion of rhetoric. Um, and you know, I think we probably got Whiffs of this when Bezos bought Washington Post and then Yes. You know, Musk with X and like yes. You know, is this kind of a bunch of people who don't necessarily care about this topic and the way we do, and they're like in larger topics too about humane government and like, you know, moving things in good directions. Joe Moore: Um, I don't know, thoughts on that rift there as it relates to anything you, wherever you wanna go. Yeah. Mary Carreon: Yeah. I mean, I don't think that they are looking at, I don't think that they are looking [00:43:00] at it the way that we are. I don't think that they can see it from their vantage point. Um, I think that like, in the, in a similar way that so many CEOs who run businesses have no fucking clue about what's actually happening in their businesses and the actual workers and, and employees of their businesses can tell them in more detail. Mary Carreon: Far more detail about what's actually happening on the, on the floor of their own business. Uh, I think that it is something like that. However, that's not to say that, you know, these, these CEOs who employ people who build the A algorithm are obviously guided to create the limitations on us as people who speak about drugs, et cetera, and are creating a algorithm that ultimately is looking at things in a very blanket way in terms of, uh, like we're probably seen on the same level as like drug dealers, if that makes sense. Mary Carreon: Which is obviously a much, you know, there's, [00:44:00] it's a very different thing. Um, so, you know, there's like these CEOs are giving directions to their employees to ultimately create systems that harm. Information flow and inform and, and like the information health of, of platforms and of just people in general. Mary Carreon: So it's hard to say because there's nuance there, obviously, but I would bet you that someone like Elon Musk doesn't really have a full grasp as to the, the nuances and details of what's even happening within, on the ground floor of his businesses. Because that's like, not how CEOs in America run, run, and operate. Mary Carreon: They're stupid companies. So, so yeah. And I feel like that, like, that's across the board, like that's across the board. That's how I, that's probably how Zuck is operating with Meta and Facebook, et cetera. And yeah, just likewise and across, across the whole, [00:45:00] across the whole spectrum. Joe Moore: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I think, um, a thing. Joe Moore: Then as the people like, we need to keep looking at how can we keep each other informed. And that's kind of circling back to drug journalism like we do and like, um, other, other sorts of journalism that doesn't really get the press it deserves. Right. And I've been getting far more content that I find more valuable off of tragically back on Zucks platform like IG is getting me so much interesting content from around the world that no major outlet's covering. Mary Carreon: That's so interesting. Like what? Like what would you say? Joe Moore: Oh, um, uh, certain, um, violent situations overseas. Oh, oh, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, um, you know, that America's paying for, so like, you know, I just don't love that I don't have a good, you know, journalistic source I can [00:46:00] point to, to say, hey, like right. Joe Moore: These writers with names, with addresses, like, and offices here. Yes. You know, they did the work and they're held, you know, they're ethical journalists, so yes. You can trust them. Right. You know what I mean? Yes, Mary Carreon: yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, all of this makes everything so much harder for determining, like, the censorship specifically makes it so much harder for the people to determine like, what's real, what's not. Mary Carreon: Because, because of exactly what you just said. Mm-hmm. Like, you know, we are, we are basically what that means, like what is required of the people and people who are consuming information is becoming a smart consumer and being able to determine what's real, what's not. How can we trust this individual? Mary Carreon: How can we not, which isn't analysis process that all of us need to be sharpening every single day, especially with the advent of AI and, uh, how quickly this, this type of content is coming at all of us. Like, especially if you're on TikTok, which many of us are, you know, like information comes flying at you 3000 miles an hour, and it's sometimes [00:47:00] really difficult to determine what's real, what's not, because AI is. Mary Carreon: AI is not where it's going to be, and it still is in its nascent phase. However, it's still pretty fucking good and it's still very confusing on there. So, so again, like the media literacy of the people needs to be sharpened every single day. We cannot be on there, we cannot be on the internet existing. Mary Carreon: That everything that we are seeing is real. Whether that's about, you know, these, um, the violence overseas, uh, happening at the hands of the United States, whether that is, uh, even drug information like, you know, et cetera, all of all of it. Or just like news about something happening at Yellowstone National Park or something that is happening in the, uh, at like. Mary Carreon: Um, like potential riots also happening at protests in downtown la, et cetera. Like all, all of it, we need to be so careful. And I think what that also, like, one way that [00:48:00] we can adjust and begin to develop our media literacy skills is talking to people maybe who are there, reaching out to people who are saying that they were there and asking them questions, and also sussing that out. Mary Carreon: You know, obviously we can't do that for all situations, but definitely some of them. Joe Moore: Yeah, absolutely. Like, Joe Moore: um, a quick pivot. Mm-hmm. Were you at PS 25? Mary Carreon: Yes, I was. What did I think? Uh, you know, I, I was running around like crazy at this one. I felt like I didn't even have a second to breathe and I feel like I didn't even have a second to really see anybody. I was like, worry. I was jumping from one stage to the next. Mary Carreon: However, I would say, uh, one of, one of the things that I have said and how I felt about it was that I felt that this, this event was smaller than it was two years ago. And I preferred that I preferred the reduction in size just because it was, uh, less over, less overwhelming [00:49:00] in an, in an already very overwhelming event. Mary Carreon: Um, but I thought that from the panels that I did see that everyone did a really great job. I thought that maps, you know, it's impressive that maps can put on an event like that. Um, I also was very cognizant that the suits were there in full effect and, uh, you know, but that's not unusual. That's how it was last time as well. Mary Carreon: And, um, I felt that there was Mary Carreon: a, uh, like the, the, the level of excitement and the level of like opportunity and pro, like the prosperous. The like, prospect of prosperity coming down the pipeline like tomorrow, you know, kind of vibe was different than last time. Mm-hmm. Which that was very present at the one, two years ago, uh, which was the last PS psychedelic science. Mary Carreon: Yeah. Um, anyways. Yeah. But it was, you know, it was really nice to see everybody. [00:50:00] I feel like in-person events is a great way for everybody in the psychedelic space to be interacting with each other instead of like keyboard warrioring against each other, you know, uh, over the computer and over the internet. Mary Carreon: I think that, um, yeah, uh, being in person is better than being fighting each other over the internet, so, yeah. Joe Moore: Mm-hmm. People seem to be a little bit more civil in person. Mary Carreon: Exactly. Exactly. Mm-hmm. And I think that that is something that we all need to be considering more often, and also inviting people from across the aisle to your events and creating peace, because in person it's a little different than it is. Mary Carreon: When you have the opportunity to, uh, yeah, like keyboard attack someone over the internet, it's like, yeah. It's just so silly. So silly. We look like fools. Like we look like absolute idiots doing that. And you know what? I cannot sit here and say that I haven't looked like an idiot. So, you know, it's like I'm not, I'm not talking from like a high horse over here, but, but you know, it's like, it's [00:51:00] better when it's in person. Mary Carreon: I feel like there's like more civil engagements that we can all have. Joe Moore: It's practice, you know? Yeah. We're learning. Yeah. We are. We should be learning, including us, and yes, of course. Um, I, I play a subtler game these days and, uh, you know, I, I, I, it's better when we all look a lot better in my opinion, because yes, we can inform policy decisions, we can be the ones helping inform really important things about how these things should get implemented and absolutely right. Joe Moore: Like, Mary Carreon: absolutely. Yeah, it does. It does. Nobody, any service, especially these medicines, especially these sacraments, especially these plants, these molecules, et cetera, if we are all sitting here fighting each other and like calling each other names and trying to dunk on one another, when like in reality, we are also all kind of pushing for the same thing more or less. Joe Moore: Mm-hmm. So a thing that [00:52:00] I, it's a, it's kind of a, I, I had a great time at PS 25. I have no, no real complaints. I just wish I had more time. Yeah, same. Um, same. Yeah. Our booth was so busy. It was so fun. Just good. And it was like, good. I, I know. It was really good. I'm trying to say it out loud. I get to talk at the conference before Rick did. laughs: Oh, oh, Joe Moore: the morning show they put us on at like seven 30 in the morning or something crazy. Oh my god. It was early. I dunno if it was seven 30. Mary Carreon: That's so early. That's so early. Joe Moore: Yeah, right. Like that's crazy. I got zero nightlife in That's okay. Um, I was not, I was there for work. Yeah, Mary Carreon: yeah. I was Joe Moore: jealous. I didn't party, but you know, whatever. Joe Moore: Yeah, yeah. Mary Carreon: I did not party this time really in the same way that I did at PS 20. Was it 2023? Joe Moore: 23, yeah. 23. I only stay up till 11 one night in 23. Nice. Mary Carreon: Okay. Um, okay. Joe Moore: So I behaved, I have a pattern of behaving. 'cause I like That's good. I'm so bent outta shape inside going into these things. I'm like, I know, I know. Joe Moore: And, and I'm like, oh, all [00:53:00] my friends are gonna be there. It's gonna be great. And then it's like, yeah. It's mostly friends and only a little bit of stress. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah, Mary Carreon: yeah. I had a, I had a great time. It was really good seeing everybody again. Like you, I wish that I had more time with people. Like there are people that I like didn't even see who are my friends, Joe Moore: so, which Yeah. Joe Moore: Which is sad. That's like a subtext in, in like the notes coming away from 25. Is that the, um, American Right, if we wanna call it that, is very interested in this stuff. Oh yeah. Like the Texas establishment. Oh yeah. Um, the Texas contingent, right? They're deep. They're real deep. Mm-hmm. I have, um, Mary Carreon: let's talk about that more. Mary Carreon: Yeah. So Joe Moore: it's optimistic in, in some sense that psychedelic science is getting funded more. By states. 'cause the feds aren't stepping up. Right. I love that. Right. Yeah. Like, Hey feds, look what we can do. And you can't somehow, and [00:54:00] then, um, we'll see if state rights stays around for a while longer, maybe, maybe not. Joe Moore: And then the other part is like, is there a slippery slope given the rhetoric around addiction and the rise in interest in iboga for compulsory addiction treatment with psychedelics or, or compulsory mental health treatments with psychedelics because of the recent, it's illegal to be a person without housing. Joe Moore: Um, and you're gonna get put in treatment. Mm. Like, that's now a thing. So like, I don't know, I don't think forced treatment's good at all. I, and I don't think like, um, like the data is something like 15% effective, maybe less. Right. Right. It's not a good use of money. I don't know. We're, let's, I. You can go there if you want, and riff on that, or if you wanna talk about like, Texas, um, Arizona more generally. Mary Carreon: Yeah. I mean, I will just say this, I also don't really believe that forced treatment is like good, you [00:55:00] know, data Joe Moore: says it's bad. Mary Carreon: Yeah. Yeah. I also, yeah, I mean, it's like, I don't know. Yeah, that's, it's complex. It's a complex issue. I also don't think it's good, but I also do think that we need a much better framework and foundation for like, if people do want the help, helping them get it. Mary Carreon: Much more easily and in a way that's going to be beneficial for them. Um, and I don't think that that system or that pathway currently exists as we saw in, uh, with, with, um, measure 1 0 9 and the failure of measure 1 0 9 or, or was it Measure 1 0 10, 1 10, measure one 10 in Oregon. Joe Moore: But did you see the response yesterday or two days ago? Joe Moore: No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I'll I'll send it to you later. Okay. So the university did the research, um, Portland State University did the research Yes. And said, Hey, look, there was actually 20 other things that were higher priority. Like that actually influenced this increase in overdoses, not our law. Mary Carreon: Right. Mary Carreon: Yes. It was really COVID for Okay. [00:56:00] Like for, yeah. Right. Absolutely. Also, there was not a. Like there was not a framework in place that allowed people to get off the street should they want to, or you know, like, like you just can't really have a, all drugs are legal, or small amounts of drugs are legal without also offering or creating a structure for people to get help. Mary Carreon: That, that's, you can't do one without the other. Unfortunately. That's just like a, that's faulty from the start. So that's all I'll really say about that. And I don't think that that had fully been implemented yet, even though it was something that wasn't ideal for the, um, for the, for the measure. And I believe it was measure one 10, not measure 1 0 9, to be clear. Mary Carreon: Measure one 10. Um, yes, but confirmed one 10 confirmed one 10, yes. Mm-hmm. Um, but yeah, uh, that's, you know, that's kind of what I'll say. That's what I'll, that's where I'll leave that portion. Mm-hmm. You know? Uh, but yeah, forced treatment. I don't know. [00:57:00] We can't be forcing, forcing people to do stuff like that. Mary Carreon: I don't know. It's not gonna, it's, yeah, it doesn't seem Joe Moore: very humane. Mary Carreon: Yeah. No. And it also probably isn't gonna work, so, Joe Moore: right. Like, if we're being conservative with money, like, I like tote, like to put on Republican boots once in a while and say like, what does this feel like? And then say like, okay, if we're trying to spend money smartly, like where do we actually get where we want to be? Joe Moore: And then sometimes I put on my cross and I'm like, okay, if I'm trying to be Christian, like where is the most, like, what is the most Christian behavior here in terms of like, what would the, you know, buddy Jesus want to do? And I'm just like, okay, cool. Like, that doesn't seem right. Like those things don't seem to align. Joe Moore: And when we can find like compassionate and efficient things, like isn't that the path? Um, Mary Carreon: compassionate and t. Yeah, even, I don't know, I don't know if it looks lefty these days, but Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. Yeah. [00:58:00] Yeah. Um, yeah, it's complicated. It's complicated, you know, but going back, kind of, kind of pivoting and going back to what you were talking about in regards to the subtext, some of the subtext of like, you know, where psychedelic medicine is currently getting its most funding. Mary Carreon: You know, I do believe that that was an undercurrent at psychedelic science. It was the, the iboga conversation. And there's, there's a lot, there's a lot happening with the Iboga conversation and the Iboga conversation and, um, I am really trying to be open to listening to everyone's messages that are currently involved in. Mary Carreon: That rise of that medicine right now? Um, obviously, yeah, we will see, we'll see how it goes. There's obviously a lot of people who believe that this is not the right move, uh, just because there's been no discussions with, uh, the Wii people of West Africa and, you know, because of [00:59:00] that, like we are not talking to the indigenous people about how we are using their medicine, um, or medicine that does like that comes from, that comes from Africa. Mary Carreon: Um, also with that, I know that there is a massive just devastating opioid crisis here that we need to do something about and drug crisis that we need to be helping with. And this medicine is something that can really, really, really help. Um, I find it absolutely fascinating that the right is the most interested party in moving all of this forward, like psychedelic medicine forward. Mary Carreon: And I, I currently have my popcorn and I am watching and I am eating it, and I am going to witness whatever goes down. Um, but I'm, I, I hope that, uh, things are moving in a way that is going to be beneficial for the people and also not completely leave behind the indigenous communities where this medicine comes from. Joe Moore: [01:00:00] Mm-hmm. Mary Carreon: We'll see how it goes. Yeah. We'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes. It Joe Moore: would be lovely if we can figure it out. Um, I know, and I think, uh, Lucy Walker has a film coming out on Iboga. Mm. I got to see it at Aspen, um, symposium last summer, and it was really good. Mm. So I'm sure it'll be cut different, but it's so good and it tells that story. Joe Moore: Okay. Um, in a helpful way. I'm gonna, I, yeah. I always say I'm gonna do this. I'm like, if I have space, maybe I'll be able to email her and see if we can screen it in Colorado. But it's like a brilliant film. Yeah. Cool. This whole reciprocity conversation is interesting and challenging. And so challenging being one of the few countries that did not sign onto the Nagoya protocol. Joe Moore: Absolutely. We're not legally bound, you know, some countries are Mary Carreon: I know. Yes, yes, yes. So Joe Moore: we're, you know, how do we do that? How do we do that skillfully? We still haven't done it with, um, first Nations folks around their [01:01:00] substances. Um, I think mushrooms are a little flexible and account of them being global, um, from Africa to Ireland and beyond. Joe Moore: And, but you know, that's, we still want to give a nod to the people in Mexico for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah, it's, I had some fun commentary there that I would love to flesh out someday. Uh, but yeah, it's not for today. Mary Carreon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, there's, yeah, there's obviously, there's obviously a lot with the conversation of reciprocity here and, um, I know, I, I don't know. Mary Carreon: I, I, what I do know is that we need to be listening to the indigenous people, not just listening to them second, like secondhand or listening to them, uh, once we have moved something forward, like actually consulting with them as the process goes. And that, you know, the way that both parties move, indigenous folks and, uh, western folks move, uh, are at inherently different paces. Mary Carreon: And, [01:02:00] um, I just hope, and I wish, and I, I hope, I just hope that, uh, Western what, like the Western party, the western folks who are diving into these medicines. Slow the fuck down and listen and just are able to at least make one right move. Just one, just like you. Like it's, doesn't have to be this, it doesn't have to be that hard. Mary Carreon: Although the pace of capitalism usually propels, uh, the western folks at, at a much quicker rate than, u

In this episode of The 10 Ninety Podcast, Mason talks with Molly Jimenez about living with stage IV metastatic breast cancer.  Molly talks about how dark humor, honesty, and presence help her carry it. Molly shares the constant work of shifting treatments, parenting through uncertainty, and a 5-MeO-DMT ceremony that shaped her perspective on life and death. They explore not borrowing grief from the future, letting friends in, and preparing loved ones without giving up on life. 

Joe Moore sits down with Greg Shanken (Colorado Psychedelic Society, Collaborence Psychedelic Business Association; founder, Higher Frequency Network) for a wide-ranging conversation about building community infrastructure, navigating censorship, and creating accessible, ethical pathways into psychedelic healing. Greg shares his personal arc from lifelong depression to ayahuasca, ketamine, and Bufo; why he launched a vetted affiliate/partner network for our space; and how Oregon–Colorado collaboration can widen access while honoring reciprocity and conservation. Key themes Collaborence: a two-day CO/OR event (online + in-person) connecting facilitators, professionals, and the public with pay-what-you-can access options. Access & affordability: how to widen entry points (microdosing, breathwork, scholarships/funds) within and beyond regulated service/healing centers. Censorship & platform risk: why repeated Meta account shutdowns pushed Greg to build community-based distribution outside big ad networks. Personal journey: depression, SSRIs/SNRIs/ADHD meds → ayahuasca (two-night initiation), IM ketamine, and later Bufo/5-MeO-DMT. Ethics & ecology: “blood toad,” conservation, and the case for synthetic 5-MeO-DMT over toad-sourced material; parallels with peyote/mescaline carve-outs. Leadership & culture: bringing heart-centered leadership, breathwork, and microdosing into companies; moving from transactional to mutual-aid ecosystems. Regulated vs. underground: costs, insurance realities, sliding-scale models, and the role each plays in a healthy landscape.

New Episode! #341 With Jay Kopelman, Executive Director of the Mission Within FoundationJay Kopelman is the Executive Director of the Mission Within Foundation, dedicated to expanding access to psychedelic therapy for veterans navigating the invisible wounds of war—PTSD, mild traumatic brain injury, depression, and addiction.Their Website: Mission Within Foundation | Funding Psychedelic Therapy for Veterans & First RespondersA New York Times bestselling author, former Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, and two-time cancer survivor, transformed by ibogaine and  5-MeO-DMT therapy himself, Jay brings exceptional passion, lived experience, and urgency to this work.Jay works tirelessly to raise funds to provide psychedelic therapy scholarships for veterans and first responders in need. He has dedicated his life to service – either as an officer of the Marines for 20 years, a healthcare leader for 10 years, seeking improved patient outcomes (Johnson & Johnson, Airstrip); or as a business advisor to veteran entrepreneurs.A year after his transformation, Jay has evolved from participant to President and Executive Director of Mission Within Foundation, having raised over $2 million to fund scholarships. He has firsthand knowledge of what's at stake. In 2024, after a lifetime of service and battles both internal and external, he underwent a profound healing journey through ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT. His authenticity, transparency, and courage in sharing his own story have been the catalysts.Jay's fight for mental health access is personal and lifelong. From a young age, he felt called to defend those who couldn't defend themselves. As a Marine, he served with honor—including in combat in Iraq. As an author (From Baghdad with Love), he helped reshape public perceptions of war and recovery. As a nonprofit leader, he's supported countless causes—animal rescue, wounded warriors, humanitarian relief. Also a cancer survivor, he understands what it means to face death and choose to fight—not just for himself, but for others.!NEW! MERCH: https://www.wgy6.ca/Operation-Tango-Romeo.htmlSponsored by ShopVeteran.ca by Canadian Legacy Project- Support Veteran owned businesses and register your Veteran owned business for free. All opinions expressed by the guest belong to only the guest and are not always reflected by the host. The OTR podcast: The Trauma Recovery Podcast for Veterans, First Responders, and their families.Creator and Host Mark MeinckeSponsored by ShopVeteran.ca by Canadian Legacy ProjectProduced by Jessika DupuisSupport a Hero HERERecover Out Loud!Book your Guest Appearance HERE Find the OTR podcast onFacebookXInstagramTikTokSpotifyYoutube#Psychedelics#Ibogaine#Veterans#US Marine Corps#Special Forces

Send us a textPsychedelics are in the spotlight. Some call them dangerous, others call them life-saving, and many believe they could reshape the future of mental health care. In this episode, Dr. Eeks talks with Martín Polanco MD, founder of The Mission Within Foundation and considered the most experienced ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT physician in North America. Over the past 25 years, he has treated more than 5,000 people — including over 1,300 veterans and special operators — giving him unmatched clinical credibility in a field often clouded by hype, controversy, and hope.Dr. Polanco shares his perspective on why veterans and frontline workers struggling with overlapping mental health challenges — PTSD, addiction, depression, traumatic brain injury — are increasingly turning to these psychedelic medicines when conventional options fall short.This episode covers:What ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT are, how they work in the brain, and what sets them apart from other psychedelics.Why mental health conditions rarely show up one at a time, and how these medicines may help with complex, co-occurring issues.How Dr. Polanco's center guides people through treatment, integration, and long-term support — and why integration is just as important as the medicine itself.Results in veterans and first responders: what's been seen, how long benefits last, and the factors that sustain recovery.The real risks, especially cardiac risks, and the safety protocols in place to minimize them.Misconceptions about psychedelic therapy and where skepticism is justified.The launch of the Mission Within Foundation, which has already raised over $2 million to provide psychedelic therapy scholarships for veterans and first responders.Why partnerships with institutions like UT Austin Dell Medical School are critical for building a scientific evidence base and wider acceptance.And finally: whether ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT are ready for mainstream mental health care, or if the science still needs to catch up.This is a candid conversation about possibility, risk, and the urgent need for new tools in mental health.You can contact Dr. Eeks at bloomingwellness.com.Follow Eeks on Instagram here.Or Facebook here.Or X.On Youtube.Or TikTok.SUBSCRIBE to her monthly newsletter here! (Now featuring interviews with top experts on health you care about!)Support the show

Matt Zemon, MSc, is an educator, author, and leader in psychedelic wellness who focuses on the impact of psychedelics on mental health. He is the best-selling author of Psychedelics for Everyone, Beyond the Trip, and The Veteran's Guide to Psychedelics. His work centers on expanding access to psychedelic therapies, supporting veterans, and helping people find purpose, connection, and healing. In this episode… Psychedelics have moved from counterculture to boardroom, and more entrepreneurs are turning to them for healing and personal growth. But can these substances really transform the way business leaders think, feel, and lead? According to Matt Zemon, a bestselling author and educator in psychedelic wellness, the answer is yes. He explains how a guided journey helped him reconnect with his late mother, opening the door to profound emotional healing. He highlights the importance of mindset, environment, and source when approaching these medicines responsibly. For Matt, psychedelics didn't just shift his inner world; they made him a more present father, a more grounded entrepreneur, and an advocate for veterans and others seeking transformation. Tune in to this episode of the Smart Business Revolution Podcast as John Corcoran interviews Matt Zemon, an educator, author, and leader in psychedelic wellness, to discuss how psychedelics are helping entrepreneurs heal and grow. Matt also shares insights on the therapeutic potential of psilocybin, MDMA, and 5-MeO-DMT. Discover how psychedelics can enhance emotional availability, why set and setting are vital for safety, and how these tools are supporting veterans with PTSD.

Benjamin Forest was a decorated U.S. Air Force officer, a family man, and a war college graduate. But beneath the medals and checklists of success, his spirit was silently collapsing. After his father's death and the slow unraveling of his life, Benjamin ended up in a psych ward on Veterans Day. That was the breaking point—and the beginning.In this deeply emotional and eye-opening conversation, Benjamin shares how psychedelics pulled him out of suicidal depression and transformed him into a better man. His first five-gram mushroom journey not only ended a years-long battle with depression—it changed his spiritual DNA. Since then, he's become a powerful voice in the psychedelic healing movement.From sacred mushroom ceremonies to ayahuasca rituals, 5-MeO-DMT whiteouts to ibogaine recoveries, Benjamin unpacks his wild journey and how it all led to his book:"Trip of a Lifetime: The Psychedelic Guide to Healing, Loving, and Living."Topics include:His breakdown in uniform—and what triggered itWhy psychedelics worked when nothing else didThe spiritual experience that made him believe in GodWhat happens inside a psychedelic churchThe one ceremony that showed him he was insecureWhy men must reclaim emotional courageThis episode is raw, redemptive, and deeply human. If you've ever felt broken—or curious about the healing potential of psychedelics—this one's for you.

My guest is Dr. Christof Koch, PhD, a pioneering researcher on the topic of consciousness, an investigator at the Allen Institute for Brain Science and the chief scientist at the Tiny Blue Dot Foundation. We discuss the neuroscience of consciousness—how it arises in our brain, how it shapes our identity and how we can modify and expand it. Dr. Koch explains how we all experience life through a unique “perception box,” which holds our beliefs, our memories and thus our biases about reality. We discuss how human consciousness is changed by meditation, non-sleep deep rest, psychedelics, dreams and virtual reality. We also discuss neuroplasticity (rewiring the brain), flow states and the ever-changing but also persistent aspect of the “collective consciousness” of humanity. Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AGZ by AG1: https://drinkagz.com/huberman BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/huberman Our Place: https://fromourplace.com/huberman Helix: https://helixsleep.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Timestamps (0:00) Christof Koch (2:31) Consciousness; Self, Flow States (8:02) NSDR, Yoga Nidra, Liminal States; State of Being, Intelligence vs Consciousness (13:14) Sponsors: BetterHelp & Our Place (15:53) Self, Derealization, Psychedelics; Selflessness & Flow States (19:53) Transformative Experience, VR, Racism & Self; Perception Box, Bayesian Model (28:29) Oliver Sacks, Empathy & Animals (34:01) Changing Outlook on Life, Tool: Belief & Agency (37:48) Sponsors: AGZ by AG1 & Helix Sleep (40:23) Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) & Higher Power (42:09) Neurobiology of Consciousness; Accidents, Covert Consciousness (51:09) Non-Responsive State; Disability Bias, Will to Live, Resilience (55:34) Will to Live, Akinetic Mutism, Neural Correlates of Consciousness (57:43) Conflicting Perception Boxes, Meta Prior, Religion, AI (1:06:47) AI, Violence, Swapping Perception Boxes, Video (1:12:19) 5-MeO-DMT, Psychedelics, Light, Consciousness & Awe; Loss of Self (1:20:54) Death, Mystical Experience, Ocean Analogy; Physicalism & Observer (1:27:57) Sponsor: LMNT (1:29:29) Meditation, Tool: Spacetime Bridging; Ball-bearing Analogy; Digital Twin (1:36:16) Mental Health Decline, Social Media, Pandemic, Family & Play, Tool: Body-Awareness Exercises (1:41:34) Dog Breeds; Movement, Cognitive Flexibility & Longevity (1:47:17) Cynicism, Ketamine, Tool: Belief Effect; Heroes & Finding Flaws (1:52:46) Cynicism vs Curiosity, Compassion; Deaths of Despair, Mental Health Crisis (1:57:26) Jennifer Aniston, Recognition & Neurons; Grandmother Hypothesis (2:03:20) Book Recommendation; Meaning of Life (2:09:10) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter Disclaimer & Disclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Chatting With Candice, Candice Horbacz and Rick Andstrom explore his journey from suicidal combat trauma to psychedelic integration specialist after losing 20 friends to suicide. When traditional therapy failed, he found healing through ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT. They discuss the critical 30-day neuroplasticity window, why 90% waste their psychedelic experiences, dangerous couples session mistakes, and the cultural shift from hippie counterculture to military acceptance. Plus: Christianity's psychedelic history, emotional regulation techniques, spiritual bypassing dangers, and breaking generational trauma patterns. Socials Rick Andstrom: Instagram: @rick_andstrom https://mercuryhumanperformance.com/Instagram: @mercuryhumanperformance Website: @MHP Check out Candice's socials and WebsiteFollow Candice Horbacz on socials: link.me/candicehorbaczSupport The Podcast on Patreon: http://patreon.com/candicehorbaczThe intimacy you've always dreamed of.Get deeper intimacy and transformative results Use the code CANDICE10 to get 10% off: https://bit.ly/3YiIVEMBegin your wellness journey Full Body Massage Set with Big Bag for easy storage. This Massage Set has everything you need for a complete massage experience, from head to toe.Use code: Candicehttps://pranamat.com/af/lnkbeovx?coupon=candiceTry our new body candles x E.Lo: https://shop.elo.fun/Try out some quality snaks: https://www.masachips.com/discount/CANDICEHORBACZ

Benjamin Forest, a retired military officer turned psychedelic coach and author, shares how 25 years of military service left him emotionally shut down, and how psychedelics helped him rediscover his capacity to feel and love authentically.Five months after his intensive at Enfold, Benjamin reflects on his journey from military life through psychedelic healing. After a mental breakdown ended his military career, followed by psychiatric hospitalization and years of unsuccessful treatments, a transformative psilocybin experience opened his heart and changed everything. Having explored various medicines since then, he came to Enfold purely out of curiosity about 5-MeO-DMT. What he discovered was unexpected: intense physical release, nervous system recalibration, and the revelation that his romantic love had been coming from a wounded, defensive place.This conversation explores how a lifetime of masculine conditioning created "emotional constipation", and how learning to love vulnerably became the real integration work.In This Episode:How military service and masculine conditioning taught him to lock down all emotionsThe mental breakdown and psychiatric hospitalization that catalyzed his healing journeyHow the heart medicine ceremony revealed what he actually needed to work onThe intense physical purging and energetic release during his ceremoniesThe 48-hour deep rest that followed as his nervous system finally downregulatedThe new practice of responding to hurt with vulnerability instead of retaliation

In this solo episode, we're discussing a core insight from my own medicine path: the crucial energetic difference between healing and integration.After years of ceremonies, coaching, and personal exploration, I realized that the constant search for healing was actually keeping me stuck in an identity of being “broken.” It wasn't until very recently that I fully understood that wholeness doesn't come from fixing, but from integrating who you already are.This episode is an invitation to shift from a “healing orientation” rooted in victimhood and fixing, into an “integration orientation” rooted in authenticity, creativity, and self-acceptance.Key Topics Covered:The trap of the “healing identity” and how it can keep us stuckMy personal journey from Ayahuasca, to 5-MeO-DMT, to IbogaWhy integration is about seeing, not seekingThe difference between a healing orientation vs. an integration orientation Self-acceptance as the foundation of wholenessHow reclaiming forgotten parts of ourselves—like play, creativity, and joy—is part of integrationPractical reflections for recognizing when you're fixing vs. truly integratingSupport the show and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠become a subscriber⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for just $4.99/mo!As a subscriber, enjoy ad free and intro free episodes, early access to new episodes + a monthly bonus podcast.Explore Coaching with Lana:Iboga Integration & Prep Coaching⁠⁠⁠ (NEW-now enrolling)Psychedelically Informed Life Coaching⁠⁠⁠ (6 Month Program)Stay Connected to Modern Psychedelics:Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@modernpsychedelics⁠⁠⁠YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠Modern Psychedelics YouTube⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠www.modernpsychedelics.net⁠⁠⁠Substack: The Healthy Ego⁠⁠Free Resources:FREE Iboga Preparation Guide⁠FREE Set Better Goals⁠FREE Integration Journal ⁠FREE Intention Setting Journal⁠FREE Psychedelic Ceremony Checklist⁠FREE Playlists for Psychedelic Journeys + Integration⁠DISCLAIMER: Modern Psychedelics does not endorse or support the illegal consumption of any substances. This show is meant for entertainment purposes only. Modern Psychedelics does not sell or promote the sale of any illegal substances. The thoughts, views, and opinions on this show should not be taken as life advice, medicinal advice, or therapeutic guidance.

Dr. Christopher Timmermann is neuroscientist and co-director of the UCL Centre for Consciousness Research in London. He obtained a BSc in Psychology in Santiago, Chile and an MSc in Cognitive Neuroscience at the University of Bologna in Italy. He was also leading one of the first DMT research groups at Imperial College London.His empirical and theoretical work focuses on the neuroscience, psychiatry, psychology, and beliefs of psychedelics, their relationship to consciousness and applications in mental health. The work he has led has been published in high-regarded journals, and has been widely covered by mass media outlets. He also founded and is the director of an educational non-profit in Chile, the ECOH Foundation.He is the expert on 5MeO DMT right, which has been dubbed the “Mount Everest of psychedelics,” and fittingly, Timmermann writes, “its experiences are often referred to as “whiteouts.” But beyond its ability to eliminate the sense of space and time, its most interesting effect lies in the way it dissolves the self. This is key. The question of whether the self is necessary for consciousness to occur has been debated by philosophers for thousands of years — and it remains unsettled. But with 5MeO, something completely different happens: It radically deconstructs all possible worlds, sparing only awareness.IG: christophertimmermannOUR INFO: IG: @the.newhealthclub @thenewhealthinstitute Website: https://www.thenewhealthinstitute.org/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jaclyn, a small business owner from British Columbia's Okanagan Valley, shares how childhood trauma was still affecting her adult life and relationships, and how the Enfold process helped her reclaim safety, trust, and her authentic voice.Nearly a year after her experience at Enfold, Jaclyn describes what led her to seek this medicine: fractured sleep, reactivated nervous system triggers, and a deep distrust of masculine energy that was impacting both her professional and personal life. Despite years of traditional therapeutic work, she knew she was still "circling around core wounds" and felt called to something deeper. What unfolds is a story of transformation — from the moment she felt the medicine calling, to the moments at Enfold that helped her reclaim her voice.This conversation touches the heart of what it means to heal not just personal trauma, but generational patterns that live in our bodies.In This Episode:Why years of traditional therapy still left Jaclyn feeling stuck around core woundsThe pivotal conversation that led to her immediate "yes" to this experienceHow the group dynamic and witnessing others' healing became part of her own transformationThe full release ceremony where she "birthed herself back to herself"That unforgettable integration moment in the ice bath and what it unlockedHow her relationship with masculine energy completely shifted after the experience

In this powerful episode of MAX Afterburner, Kentucky native and retired U.S. Army veteran Derek R. Poor shares his deeply personal journey from the high-stakes world of Special Operations to profound healing and transformation. Derek served over two decades in uniform, beginning as an Aircraft Armament Repairman and Missile Systems Maintainer for the OH-58D Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter before being selected for the elite 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne), the legendary “Night Stalkers.” Providing critical ground support for America's most sensitive missions, Derek carried the weight of years of service, leadership, and sacrifice, along with the invisible wounds of a traumatic brain injury sustained in the line of duty.Like too many of his brothers-in-arms, Derek faced the crushing reality of TBI symptoms, PTSD, and the devastating loss of friends to suicide, including one the day after he returned from his first ibogaine journey. Determined to find a path forward, Derek turned to powerful entheogenic sacraments: ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT. These sacred medicines not only brought him profound personal healing, but also transformed the life of his wife, Jennifer, who had battled debilitating autoimmune conditions for years.In this conversation, Derek opens up about his service with the Night Stalkers, the toll of TBI, and the healing potential of sacred plant medicines. He shares lessons learned from both the battlefield and his journey home, along with his mission to help other veterans struggling in silence. Derek's story is one of courage, resilience, and hope - proof that there is a way through the darkness, and that no warrior has to walk that path alone.

En este episodio, Héctor y Mario Garnier (pionero en el uso terapéutico del 5-MeO-DMT) se reencuentran y exploran qué puede y qué no puede ofrecer esta herramienta: sus alcances y límites, la diferencia entre anécdota y evidencia, y la centralidad de la integración, el libre albedrío y la salud mental. Desde protocolos y seguridad hasta los riesgos del mesianismo, la pereza espiritual y el ego del facilitador, esta conversación desmonta mitos y propone un camino riguroso, humilde y acompañado para trabajar con estados no ordinarios de conciencia.

Send us a textWhat happens when traditional medicine fails to heal the invisible wounds of war? Former Army Ranger Mike Leal takes us on an extraordinary journey from the battlefields of Afghanistan to a revolutionary treatment that completely restored his damaged brain and broken spirit.Mike's story begins with a startling revelation - before becoming an elite special operations soldier, he was a college dropout struggling with heroin addiction. Seeking escape, he joined the military and unexpectedly found himself drawn to the Rangers, America's premier assault force. Through six grueling deployments and countless firefights, Mike witnessed horrors that would eventually catch up with him. "I would get out of work and just start crying in my truck," he reveals, describing the crushing weight of PTSD and traumatic brain injuries that medication couldn't touch.The VA's response was predictable - more pills, more diagnoses, more disconnection. After a suicide attempt and the crushing realization that the system designed to help veterans was fundamentally broken, Mike discovered an unconventional path forward. His description of Ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT treatment in Mexico is nothing short of miraculous - "I could feel the clicking start in both parts of my brain... it felt like someone was plugging pieces of my brain back in and turning them on." The transformation was immediate and profound, restoring mental clarity, emotional connection, and purpose.Perhaps most compelling is Mike's new mission - creating a nonprofit to help other veterans access this life-changing therapy. With approximately 40 veterans taking their lives daily, his urgency is palpable. "I don't want them to struggle like I did for 10 years," he explains, his voice filled with the conviction of someone who's found the answer to an impossible question.Whether you're a veteran searching for healing, someone struggling with trauma, or simply curious about cutting-edge treatments for the mind, this episode offers hope where traditional approaches have failed. Subscribe now and share this powerful conversation with someone who might need to hear that healing is possible, even from the deepest wounds.Support the showLearn More at: www.Redefine-Fitness.com

From low self-esteem to global impact, David Corbin shares the mindset shifts and bold strategies that shaped his success. In this empowering episode, he breaks down his signature frameworks like “Face it, Follow it, Fix it” and “Intended Brand Descriptors,” offering game-changing insights on branding with integrity, personal growth, and radical responsibility.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The surprising ways curiosity and intuition sparked David's award-winning inventions.The mindset shift that helped David drop 50 pounds and stay energized.Why illuminating the negative is a superpower—not a weakness.How to avoid “brand slaughter” and fully live your brand integrity.The power of "meditration" to quiet your ego and unlock next-level insights.Episode References/Links:David Corbin's Website - https://www.davidcorbin.comDavid Corbin's Facebook - https://beitpod.com/davidfacebookDavid Corbin's Email - david@davidcorbin.comIlluminate: Harnessing the Positive Power of Negative Thinking by David Corbin - https://a.co/d/gXB8bsoPreventing Brandslaughter: How to Preserve, Support and Grow Your Brand Asset Value by David Corbin - https://a.co/d/h2yIWgeThe Illuminated Brand by David Corbin - https://a.co/d/8SuzrOUEat That Frog by Brian Tracy - https://a.co/d/jaui08nFrom WTF to OMG, with a Little LOL: Unpacking Life's Hidden Lessons by David Corbin and Kerry Jacobson - https://a.co/d/iD3ZNpBGuest Bio:Born and raised in New York, David Corbin brought his hustle and heart to California over 30 years ago. Along the way, he caught the entrepreneurial bug, launched successful ventures, and pioneered innovative solutions — like his award-winning touchscreen patient interview system, recognized by luminaries including Tom Peters and Maya Angelou. A “Mentor to Mentors”, Dave has been the behind-the-scenes secret weapon for leaders aiming to illuminate their organizations' true potential.But Dave's not just about business; he's about authenticity and practical transformation. Whether it's a Woodstock-inspired motto (“You're either green and growing or ripe and rotting”) or his signature approach (“Face it, Follow it, Fix it”), Dave infuses real-world solutions with unbridled energy, humor, and integrity. (https://davidcorbin.com/about) If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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In my career, in my relationship, in my relationship with myself, in my health, in my health habits, what am I not facing? And then, you know, the ego goes, well, I don't know if I knew I'd face it. No, you wouldn't. So face it and then follow it and then fix it.Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:01  All right, Be It babe, get ready. Get your notepads out. Get a pen out. If you listen to us on 1.5 1.75 speed, I'm gonna be really honest. You might wanna slow this one down. There's a lot of acronyms, and this guest and I had the best fucking time. I'll be really honest. I, I really was like, who is this person on my podcast? After we stopped hitting record, he and I were like, I don't know how you got on this pod. He's like, I don't know how I'm on this pod. And then my husband comes in, and I'm just gonna spoil for you. My husband is the one who met him, and my husband is the one who brought him on the podcast, and that is why he, like, got to skip all the things where I would find out who this person is and what they're going to talk about, and why we're talking and, like, what's going to go on. But I'm going to tell you right now I didn't need any of that information for this to be the most amazing interview ever. Like, this is going to be one that you save. This is going to be when you re-listen to you. I promise you're going to re-listen to it as soon as it's over because I want to re-listen to it right now. And I was just there and I just did it. I want to, like, take notes. I am obsessed with this person, and I really do hope that they stay in my life in some way. And he gave us some excellent Be It Action Items, but the whole thing is a bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted action item you could take. And so David Corbin is our guest today, and you guys, he's pretty bad ass. So here you go. Lesley Logan 2:31  All right, Be It babe, I've had a great guest. The guy seems very chill, but also has done some amazing things in this world, and we're gonna hear all about it. So David Corbin, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?David Corbin 2:44  Ah, who am I? It's really funny. My mother passed away not knowing who her youngest son really was. What I did for a living. She told all of her friends I laundered money. She didn't have a clue what I did, but I could tell you what I do and kind of who I am. I I've written 14 books, and a third of them made it to the Wall Street Journal bestseller list, so some of the ideas are really catching on USA Today list, and I've done a couple TED talks, and I'm an inventor, and I won two international awards for these inventions that I've done in healthcare and in wellness and stuff. But I'm really none of that. I'm really an ex Woodstock-attending hippie who's a father and a grandfather and a husband to a beloved goddess, and I'm a pickleball player and a tennis player. That's who I am. Boom. Mic drop.Lesley Logan 3:43  Okay, I have never, I think a lot of people can relate to like their parents not understanding what they do. But I do think that most of them probably think that they don't launder money. So I feel like, but, you know, it took my parents a long time to understand that what I do is not yoga. So, you know.David Corbin 4:00  Yeah, right, you do that Pilates thing (inaudible) with the Pilates, you with the FAA, with that Pilates show (inaudible).Lesley Logan 4:08  No, it's okay. We don't need to talk about it today. But I guess, like, where I want to start is, like, how do you like, how do you become someone who writes 14 books and does two TEDx talks and like, has a goddess of a wife? Like, where? Like, how did we get here?David Corbin 4:21  Yes, pure god shot, really, because I'm really Forrest Gump, I ain't the smartest guy in the world, but I am the damn luckiest. But no, I've been, you know, I grew up in New York. I was a low self esteem kid. Had to figure stuff out, you know, shoveled snow in the winter and mowed lawns in the summer. And I wasn't the brightest kid. I started to shovel snow in the summer and mow lawns in the winter, but, you know, so I did all that sort of stuff. And then, you know, sort of grew up, and at a time when, you know, the world was a little messed up, not like it is now. And you know, we were in a Vietnam War, and I was protesting. The war, and I got pretty active and engaged in that. And, you know, did all that groovy stuff. And, you know, was it Woodstock? It was a backstage at Woodstock. Lesley Logan 5:07  Oh, my god. Oh, my god. David Corbin 5:10  Yeah it was sick. And then, you know, started businesses. And, my gosh, had I did a TED Talk about one where I was, I did something called Woodstock wisdom. That was a TED Talk. It's kind of cool. I gave away make believe LSD, it was definitely an interesting TED Talk. And, you know, on and on. And then, you know, I would create businesses. I then product, build companies around the business, sell the business. And I learned stuff, you know, like, I learned stuff. I mean, I went to college and and all, but I really learned stuff through life, through bouncing and pinging it off of people, and, you know, with black and blue marks in life, you know what I mean. So I I learned some stuff, and I put them to use, and then people would ask me about it. I teach them about it, and then ended up doing, speaking and writing books about those things. And I just kept learning and practicing putting it in place and getting results. People notice it. They say, hey, man, can you help me? And I would help them. Then I'd write a book about it. And so it's just, it's really organic, you know? I mean, I was the president of one of the most prestigious massage colleges in the country, right? And how did that happen? Just pure by accident. My friends started it years later. They were functional in the classroom, but they were dysfunctional in the boardroom and so, so all these things just I don't know, man, I'm telling you. Forrest Gump, Lesley Logan 6:42  I, thank you for sharing the journey because I think, like, people would see, oh my gosh, two TED talks, 14 books, like, you know the confidence that comes from from you, but to hear like was a kid, you had low self-esteem. And I also love hearing like I went to college, and I really thought, like, why am I doing this? But most of it was to get out of a small town. And, like, you can't really get out of a small town. Just like, I'm gonna move. Like, no one was gonna let me to move to L.A. without going to college. So I had to, like, go to college so I could move to L.A. but, like, but I, you know, I, I was someone who's like, why? I don't even know what I'm gonna do with this degree. Like, what do I'm an elder millennial, so like, what do you do with a degree after college? Like, and it's then, it's a recession. So it doesn't, you know what? I just really didn't know it. But I realized over time, and the things I fell into, is that everything kind of layers, if you're willing to look at it. And so you said to yourself, like, you just said recently, like, I help these people, and then, like, I wrote a book about it. So what? What prompted you to, like, reflect enough to share what you were learning, because so many people would reflect and just like, keep it to themselves.David Corbin 7:53  Yeah, I, you know, I had a good inner dialog, and I kind of talked to myself, what's working, what's not working, blah, blah, blah. You just sort of develop this stuff. All I could say is that when you when you're growing up, like I kind of grew up as like an orphan in a family, so I was kind of alone. Everybody was older than me, and so I was kind of like left alone. And by the way, I stayed in college for a different reason. Mine was to not get my ass shot up in Vietnam. So I had to keep my ass in college and stuff like that.Lesley Logan 8:26  And you had to get a certain GPA. You couldn't just be in college because my father didn't get the GPA, and that's why he was in Vietnam.David Corbin 8:33  Yeah, and I wasn't, and I wasn't going to go, but, but what I think my secret sauce is being awake, aware, alert. My heart's filled with love, and my mind is filled with opportunity seeking. So I see an opportunity. I wrote a book called Luminate: Harnessing the Positive Power of Negative Thinking, right, which is a whole different scene, because, you know, you can't outrun your shadow, but I would look and I taught face it, follow it and fix it. I mean, like, I knew that you can't solve everything you face but you can't solve anything unless you face it. So I wrote this book about face it, follow it and fix it. And that's how I created my inventions. That's how I invented my companies is face it. Here's it like in healthcare. I looked at this thing even before COVID and healthcare burnout with doctors and nurses and turnover was over a $4 billion per year problem. That was before COVID, right? So I went face that. That sucks. Follow it like why is that happening? Well, they treat them like shit, and they, you know, the hours and stuff, there's no there's stress constantly. There's no inter interruption of the pattern of stress. Follow it into the future. Well, we're gonna have a shortage of doctors and nurses. So what's the fix? So I invented a pod. It's a four foot by four foot pod with nature video. And they go in there, how do you feel? They answer some questions. They choose a video journey. Afterwards three to eight minutes, they say, How do you feel now? And in three to eight minutes, they go from their crazy roles and goals down into their souls so they're more present with themselves and others. And we prove it, we won the International Healthcare design award for innovation. We're in every hospital in New York. We're in 14 states, all because I keep my eyes and ears open, I say, What does love look like in this situation? Well, there's a problem, face it, follow it and fix it. And I think any listener of your podcast, or any this is my third podcast I'm doing today, if they ask themselves, what am I not facing in my career, in my relationship, in my relationship with myself, in my health, in my health habits, what am I not facing and then, you know, the ego goes, well, I don't know if I knew I'd face it. No, you wouldn't. So face it and then follow it and then fix it. I mean, I was 50 pounds overweight, and I had to face it like face it. Why, you know, and then follow it. Why am I 50 pounds? Well, I drink two, three glasses of wine after dinner, and then my blood sugar would go low, and I'd eat anything in the house, and then I go to sleep. So I turned into a fat person. And, you know, follow it out into the future, I was hoping I would have grandchildren. I won't be able to play with my grandchildren, so the face it and the follow it, and then you go into the fix. So that's one of the models that I teach in one of my books. And and it's kind of cool, because when you get known as the illuminator, which I was, then people hire you, like one company, I can't tell you the name of it, but it rhymes with schmomanos Pizza. They hired me to be their chief illumination officer, and we illuminated the fact that their pizza tastes like crap, you know. And then they, they did a whole ad campaign that said, our pizza tastes like crap. And they, I don't know if you're old enough to remember that, but did a whole campaign around that, because we illuminated, because we found, look, first off, here's some of the stuff. Okay, face it. Follow and fix it. The their issue was their profits sucked. Yeah, right. And they wanted to go public, so we faced it. One of the things we said is we can't move forward when your profits suck like that, so we followed, why are your profits so low? Well, it's because most people don't know what they're having for dinner by 4:30pm and they call up and they go, man, I got two kids and a dog and my neighbor's kid, I need to buy something, right? And they're put on hold. So what we found is they weren't in the fast food business. They were in the crisis intervention business. When you call 911, you don't want to be put on hold, right? So we taught all their people to be crisis intervention people, and they go, I got two kids and my neighbor's kid and my dog. What do I get? And instead of, like, I don't know what do you want? They go, no problem. We take care. That's our with that's our Package B with two round discs of cardboard and fake cheese and ketchup and crap on it and a big old bottle of sugar water with caffeine to get those little bastards to bounce off the wall. And they go, yes, that's exactly what I need. So we faced it, followed it, and fixed it. Well, now, I really don't choose to work with companies that are selling fast food, and I don't, you see the example of that. They have no idea. They didn't have a clue.Lesley Logan 13:54  Well, because you get so close to it. And also, you know, depending on what time of the day, like you can either go, oh my god, I can totally take on that problem, or you can put yourself in a spiral. At least that's me. Maybe that's just me, but I really like this, because I'll often say, like, reflect, correct and continue, but I like, thank you. And you know, like, we can't we're not gonna be perfect all the time. Even our best ideas are going to get to market and or get to your friends or get to your family, and somewhere in the translation, something like didn't happen, or people like, hold on, what's this? And we're all going to have to face it, follow it and fix it, or we don't, and it doesn't go where we wanted to go. And then we go, well, there's another idea that didn't work, you know? And so my my husband had a business coach who talked about, like, hugging the cactus, which makes me, like, think about, like facing it. Like we have to actually take responsibility for where we got to where we are. And it doesn't mean you have to beat yourself up. It doesn't mean that you have to spend a lot of time, like there, but you do have to go, Okay, I did put one step in front of the other and got myself here. I want to be over here. If I stay here, this is where it's going to go. I get more of this, which is not awesome, or I can do these things. And if I do that, what does that look like in the future? And then you can take some change. I really am obsessed with this, David, it's great.David Corbin 15:16  Yeah. G.R.F.R., baby, Get Real For Results. Get Real For Results. I love hug the cactus. One of my business partners wrote a book sold 2 million copies called Eat That Frog, Brian Tracy, sure, and yeah, Brian and I were partners for five years, and it's all about get real. So one of the things that I focused on with clients, and I just did a workshop yesterday for the Sheriff's Department in San Diego, California, and it's about illuminating their reputation. And that's building your brand. I teach you're either in brand integrity and living your brand or not, and that's what I call brand slaughter in the first degree, brand slaughter. You put people in jail for manslaughter but, companies allow people to kill their brands and get away with it. So I wrote a book called preventing brand slaughter, and then I wrote another book called the illuminated brand, which is a training program, is the greatest trading program I've ever developed. And I've been in this field for a couple of weeks now, and then I just did that for a client, a billion dollar client in Cancun a couple of weeks ago. And that's all about living into how you want to be described. So if Lesley Logan wants to be described as boom, boom, boom, boom, and boom, right then everything you do is either living into that and you're earning that. I call it an I.B.D. Intended Brand Descriptor. You're either living it and earning it, or you're not. And that's brand slaughter,Lesley Logan 16:54  Okay, this okay. I just had a client this morning, and she, usually I teach her on Tuesdays, but I was traveling, and so I said, hey, babe, I know you hate mornings, but if you want a session this week, it's got to be 8 a.m. that's all I got. And I'm only giving it to you because I don't normally like to work at that time, but it's for you. And she said, Yeah, I'll take it. I was so shocked. So I show up on Zoom, and she's like, well, I'm working on this thing. I'm a healthy person, that's what I'm telling myself. And if I'm a healthy person, a healthy person would work out at 8am they wouldn't skip their workout this week. They'd work out at 8am and so that's what it makes me think of. Like, I can't think of a like, I love what you described, because it's like, being it till you see it. It's like, how do I want to be described? How would I want to describe like, if it's the future and then, like, acting as if you're the person who has that description. What does that person do? What does that business do? What does that product do? What is like? What does that day look like? I'm obsessed. I love that. David Corbin 17:43  You got it. You know, you walk into the ladies room to wash your hands, right? And there's someone in the stall, invariably, with their cell phone, and they're talking they don't know you're there. Well, what if they were talking about you? What do you want them to hear them say about you. So what I teach is you make a list of your intended brand descriptors. That's the first part. Then you do an A.B.I. an Audit of Brand Integrity. So down here you got the lit, and there's a TV show they did on me on this. And I can give you the link if you all want to see it. So here's a list of descriptive adjectives. I call them intended brand descriptors. Over here are your touch points, customers, prospects, coworkers, vendors, whatever, and now you do an inventory. Say, here's the word I want to be described by this here, am I in brand integrity? Yay. Or, oh, shit, am I in brand slaughter? Now, once you find those areas of brand slaughter, do the next step. We call them S.B.I.s, Strategic Brand Initiatives, what can I do to close the gap? All of that when you do that on a regular basis, equals M.B.V. and that's Massive Brand Value. So I'm doing this with this training program with Fortune 500 companies. I'm doing it with smaller companies, and it's all about I.B.D. times A.B.I. and S.B.I. is M.B.V. What are your intended brand descriptors? Then you do an audit of brand integrity, Then you say, okay, here's the areas where I'm great. Pat yourself on the back. Here's the areas where I'm committing brand slaughter, you have strategic brand initiatives to close it. Boom. Now it's a no whining zone, baby.Lesley Logan 19:34  Oh, my God, I really do love this. I think this is really a lot of fun, because you can do this about anything, like anyone listening. If you're like, dating, and you keep attracting someone you don't really want to be with, it's like, you could literally go, okay, well, let's take a look at the profile, or let's take a look at, like, what I'm saying on a date. You can like, all these things. I have a girlfriend who, whenever she goes on a date, she actually has, like, a scale that she rates them and then herself on. She's like, how am I acting in on this date with this person. So you could do the same thing of, like, how you want to show up and who you want to be with, and who your friends are, and all the things. And you could figure out, like, oh, this, this right here. This is where I'm creating brand slaughter. This is where I'm I think it's fabulous. It's also it's something you could do throughout your career or life, or, I mean, like, you can do it and then you can go back and do it, like, each quarter or each year, because as you grow it's, you know, I read a book called I read a book called the middle, but I didn't finish it, and I think that's hilarious, but at the got to the middle, and I was like, I think I got the point. But you it talks about, like, how all businesses go up and down, up and down, up and down, like a graph. But ideally it's always just going up, like the stock market goes up and down, up and down. But if you look at big picture, it's always going up. So, you know, so I think, like, we can get so caught up in the down, and then we can flounder there for so long that we don't realize we came from a really big up, and we can learn from that and bounce back. And, you know, there's another day to try it out again. This is so fun, okay, so, but hold on, you have a lot of acronyms. I'm not dyslexic, but I am A.D.H.D.David Corbin 21:04  Me too. That's my theme song, A, B, C, D, A, D, D. That's my theme song.Lesley Logan 21:12  So how, like, how do you how do you keep this all like, where do you is it all in your head? Do you organize? You journal? Like, what's your way of keeping all these ideas in one amazing place.David Corbin 21:23  No, I've been I am a gifted man. See, the big dude gave me this incredible brain and this magnificent heart, and the highway between the two is wide open. So I can keep it here. I don't journal. I meditate, I do something else called meditration, which I developed, which is, yeah, you know, you're not supposed to think when you're meditating. But when you, well, I teach meditration, meditration where you sit down with a piece of paper, you put the issue or the question on top, then you put yourself in a meditative state after you set your iPhone or whatever, to 22 minutes, and while the questions on the top 22 minutes, pencil or pen on paper, and you dwell upon that question, and you don't open your eyes, but you write with your eyes closed, and you let the unconscious confidence come through, and the universal conscious confidence come through, and you write some good shit down there. Now, at first, it kind of like you read it as like don't eat frogs. What is that? Because you can't read your handwriting. Eventually, you allow the download to come through. No one is smarter. Like, it's smarter than chatGPT y'all, no shit, it's smarter than even chatGPT. You write it down and you tap in. You know, prayer is when you're talking out there, but meditation is when you're listening. You listen in meditation. You know, like our emotions scream at us, and our thoughts yell at us, but our intuition whispers to slow down meditration, take it all in. It's freaking awesome, because the answer to every, everything you got, every WTF has within it an OMG and end up LOL, right, right. Are you with me? Lesley Logan 23:26  Yeah, I'm with you. I love it. I know all these Okay. David Corbin 23:29  So, like, I wrote two books called From WTF to OMG, with a Little LOL: Unpacking Life's Hidden Lessons. The first one hit number one on Wall Street Journal, the second one hit number two behind Prince Harry. Yo. I don't know what Prince Harry? How does Prince Harry come in front of King David? But anyway, it's because everyone knows at a certain level, when you're in a when you're in trauma or drama, that's usually a gift in there, not all of the time. I mean, don't tell me. Like, you know, somebody who gets run down in New Orleans by a car or a toddler gets shot in a freaking daycare center. Don't tell me there's a lesson in there. No, not all of it.Lesley Logan 24:13  Not all, I agree. David Corbin 24:14  But most of our lives there's a pony in that pile of poop, you know? And so if you assume there's an OMG built into the WTF, you close the curve of drama, trauma and pain and misery, and just start looking, and then you get it, and you're like, yo, that's fantastic. So yeah, so I look for that sort of stuff. So there's meditration, but there's something I gotta tell you, are you ready for this? Lesley Logan 24:45  I can't wait. David Corbin 24:46  I am proud of this. So I got permission from the TED organization to hand out L.S.D. it to my audience,Lesley Logan 24:55  The real stuff. Oh, this is the fake stuff. This is the fake one. Yeah. Okay. Well, because the audience is so big. You're not going to buy L.S.D. for everybody.David Corbin 25:01  Even the, no, I'm not. I'm not that generous. But even even the fake stuff, I had to get permission. So what I did was I said, could you imagine, first of all, I talked about being backstage at Woodstock. And I said, you know, 50 years I saved all this L.S.D. and I got one for all of you. So, you know, I'm like, Oprah, one for you, one for you, one for you. And I said, so when I count to three, you're going to pick it up, toss it in the air, catch it in your mouth, and go, whoa, dude, I'm tripping. So they did that, right? Boom, boom, boom, 500 but whoa, dude, I'm tripping. I said, cool, now that you're tripping, and here's the point, Lesley, now that you're tripping, you could ask your business two questions, and because you're tripping, you could hear the business answer you in its voice. And here's the two questions, and this is what I would want everyone to write down. Number one is, your business. What do you need me to do? And then you write down a list of the core job functions, right? So your trip? So you write down the core. You got one list of core job functions. Then you say, your business. Who do you need me to be? And you write down the qualities and characteristics. Now you got two lists. Now, because you're tripping, you get naked, right? But, but, but not naked of clothing. That's the easy part. Now you get naked of ego, and you rate yourself on both lists on a scale of one to 10. 10 is chaching mastery. You could bring it to that business right now. The business is asking for it. You say, I got you. That's 10. One is you suck. Where you're a five, six or seven, you close the gaps. Same thing on the other list, qualities and characteristics. Good listener, right? Where you're a 10, great, but where you're a three, close the gaps. It's like those S.B.I. is the Strategic Brand Initiatives. It's all about get freaking real. So they're tripping. They have a conversation with their business. They get naked. They see where they need to close the gaps. When you do that, anyone who's listening to this, when you do that, you can no longer complain about market conditions and competition and this. And I don't have enough capital, and I'm not this enough. Bullshit. You take control of that and close those gaps. And as you do, you increase your competence, which then brings up your confidence, which then brings up your competence again. And you're and you go on up the eensy beensy spider, but not up the water spout. Up the spout to prosperity and fulfillment. Boom. When I teach that, and people come back and say, I did that. Had it worked, had it worked, it's a game changer, because now you're taking responsibility. You could do it for your health. Hey, body, what you what do you need from me? Make a list. Yeah, rate yourself on your ability to bring that. Close the gaps. Bring your gift, your body, your magnificent body developed. I mean, it's amazing. And keep it in optimal condition by putting natural foods in, hydrating with quality water, getting the right movement, then it's like life is easy. People say, David, you're 72 and you play pickleball every day and you play tennis, yeah. God made an incredible body. God made unbelievable food. I put God's food into God's body. Boom. No GMO shit. No chemicals, no process, no fluoride in water, no fluoride in toothpaste. You know, I cleanse my liver and my kidney everyday with homeopathy, I chelate heavy metals out of my body with ACC Nano. Take responsibility. Life is good, baby.Lesley Logan 29:20  I love how you attribute to business and also to our health, because I think it's really important. And I just want to, like, highlight a couple things. I didn't know I was doing meditration, but I was doing, like, like a version of the morning pages, right? So morning, like, my therapist was like, I want you to journal. And then I was like, well, I'm a recovering perfectionist. So a week later, I was like, what am I supposed to journal? Like, how do I journal? Not really even understanding which, I have the journals I got pens. I can't read my own handwriting. So, like, what are we doing here? She's like, okay, how would you just do morning pages? Just write for three pages and whatever comes out. And I found within a couple of days, like, the thing that was bothering me or the thing that I feared would like, it would come on the page, and then by the end, I would understand, why was I afraid? What was I going to do? All these different things? And so I can't agree more, like I don't. I think most of our listeners, like, when they hear meditation is the thing they need to do, they're like, I'm sorry. We're out. Because, like, when you have ADD or ADHD, good luck removing the thought from your brain, but giving someone something to think, like, actually do and close their eyes and let it come out. I do, I do see how that could be really amazing. Because I can see, like, first of all, I can get angry because I like, I like to get angry at the thing. I got to do a little blame game that I got blame myself. Then I got to keep going. It's like, actually, it's not me, it's not them. It's this thing right here that I've been avoiding. And we can stop avoiding it, or we could do the thing. So I love that. The other thing I love is, like, I love those questions you asked because I think, I do think inside you're correct, that we do have the answers. We don't need chatGPT to tell us. I mean, you can use that. I have friends who love it, and we have a bot of me. But like, you can also just ask yourself, like, what do I need right now? And half the time when I ask myself that, when I'm frustrated, I'm like, I need something that's like, drink some water. Like, just go drink some water. Go sit outside. Go pet your dog. Like, go do something that brings you present. Because one of the things that I like, really obsessed about with you, and I'm really trying to figure out how we even know each other. I'm like, saying, how'd this man end up on my podcast? I love him. He's so great. Where'd we come from? Yeah, no, I can see that from the application. I think it might have been my husband, so maybe, but we'll figure that out offline. But what I'm loving is you are so passionate, and that is, like, contagious, of course, in all the best ways, but you have so much kindness and grace for all situations like you're you've talked about your heart a few times, but like, what I'm seeing is like you approach everything with, like, it's a problem to be solved, but not from a place of like, punishment or shame or judgment, but just observation and then taking some time to to go what would what can I give myself? What can I do this? How can I learn more here? And what it allows is all of us to be in process. None of us have to be perfect at this. Like you're always, like you said, you get the competence, you get the confidence, and then you guess what? You get more competence, which means you get more confidence. So we're always going to be on this mountain with no peak, but not in a way that's like a slog, in a way that is like high, like a good high.David Corbin 32:19  Yeah, you're a natural illuminator? No, you are when, when you write and then you see it, you see what happens is, is we usually keep problems on. We sweep it under the carpet. Well, I can tell you that, like mushrooms, they multiply in the dark, right when you take it out, daylight is the best disinfectant. And so you take it out and you illuminate. You look at it. It's not as bad as when you you use so much energy to energy to repress it and keep it down in there and stuff. Just freaking look at it, and it like a vampire, something that evaporates just in daylight and stuff. So you're already doing in a way that I call it different you, but who cares? We get to the same place. What is your objective? What is my objective? I could tell you mine is happiness, love, joy, equipoise, health, fulfillment, like I just trademark something. You know they have KPIs. Keep, bullshit, because that's all left brain analytic perfection. Make it KFIs, Key Fulfillment Indicators, everybody, customers, you your employees, your employees' family, they all need to be fulfilled. So you're looking at these metrics to make everyone and everything fulfilled. That is a more feminine energy into business, and I'm all about that. The feminization of energy in this planet is time, and we're seeing it, we're seeing it, we're feeling it. So groups like Heart Math and the like, are testing and measuring the our brain emits x. Our heart image emits, like, 18,000 x it's unbelievable. It's all measured and shit. The work by my friend Joe Dispenza, in terms of of meditation and what's happening in there and brain waves. Oh, my God, he's having a seizure. No, they're down in this theta and that where you can see anything and every is like doing an Ibogaine trip, you know, or Ayahuasca, to a degree, but more Ibogaine, or 5-MeO-DMT, and like, you're expanding how you can see things and shit. It's really cool. So, yeah, one of you and I, one of us is redundant. The world doesn't need both of us because we both kind of think of the same. Lesley Logan 34:44  Can we, I've, I feel like, I feel like I need to find you in New York and we need to hang out because you like, I don't know, I want to be around your energy more. This is so fun. But also I, I want to highlight you guys. You have to, like, Look at this man on YouTube, on the videos, because you're the same age as my dad. And I think my dad's pretty bad ass for a 72 year old who, like, you know, had to do a post office game after the military and, like, got forced out of like, all all the life things that happened to him, and he can deadlift like, 300 pounds, like, the man is strong. But what I am obsessed with is your your recall, the way you are sharing these stories and that you're not stopping like, that is something that my 72 year old father does not have, and I can tell it's, one, it's all the ways that you're treating yourself. And two, it's like you're a constant learner, and you're and you're like, you're, you're going back to we talked about the beginning. You're like, facing it, following it, fixing it, like, because you're on that process all the time. It's, it's really cool to see, like, your evolution. I mean, it's just, I am very amazed and very impressed, and like, want to eat what you're eating, because I want to be, I want to be you at 72.David Corbin 35:53  M, my bride, Ann, and I wrote a book. It's 419 pages. It's called Resanity: Truths About Food, Pharma and Healthy Living in an Insane World. Now, we were told not to publish it because we outed a lot of industries, and they said, if you publish that book, you better have somebody start your car in the morning, because they ain't going to be happy. So, so we didn't have to publish it, but just the research, to your point, the stuff that I study, learn and teach is the stuff that I want to study learn and teach, you see, and it's a and it's an iterative process and stuff. So when I study health, I do health like I don't have to publish that book I learned all about chelation and homeopathy and to stay away from certain drugs and certain jabs and and foods, and don't listen to this bullshit and listen to that bullshit and muscle test and applied kinesiology, and we live it. So my wife and I just kicked ass to a lot younger guys on the pickleball court, and they're like, this sucks. I go, yeah, it sucks being you, man. No, I live in San Diego.Lesley Logan 37:07  I'm in Las Vegas. We're so close.David Corbin 37:10  Yeah, yeah, I know. In fact, I go to Vegas because I have a client who's an artist in residence at Mandalay Bay, at the House of Blues, and his name is Carlos Santana.Lesley Logan 37:20  Well, there you have it.David Corbin 37:21  Do you know who Carlos is? Lesley Logan 37:23  Of course, I do. I'm, my husband's a bass player and like, and he used to have a drum radio show, and I think they were getting Carlos and his drummer on. And if I'm wrong, Brad will just pretend like I was right, but I'm pretty, of course, I know Carlos Santana. Are you kidding?David Corbin 37:40  There's me and Carlos right there. Carlos' drummer is Cindy Blackman Santana. She was Lenny Kravitz's drummer. Carlos says, I love drummers so much I married mine. So Carlos' drummer is Cindy. And then they have a timpani guy, and then a congadera. The show. If you haven't seen the show.Lesley Logan 38:01  I gotta go. I mean, it's down the street from my house. David Corbin 38:05  It's, it's, it's a sick experience. And you hit me up and I'll see if I can, I sit in Carlos' seats, which doesn't suck. It's such an intimate environment, yeah, that even if you get standing room only. You're like, 10 feet away from a legend, and this, he's an enlightened being. Lesley Logan 38:26  I actually got to go to the that venue because I was, I thought I was getting tickets for the Counting Crows, but I got tickets to the Black Crows. My friends invited me, and I'm there and going. I don't know any of these songs. I have no idea who am I even seeing. And I was like, literally googling. I'm like, oh, this is a very famous band that I know nothing about.David Corbin 38:42  Girlfriend, dig this. So, so they were in town in San Diego. I was supposed to be in Vietnam. My trip Vietnam got canceled, so I'm in San Diego. So okay, so I go see them. And so the Counting Crows and Santana, I didn't know who Counting Crows was.Lesley Logan 38:58  So you actually saw the Counting Crows, and I saw the Black Crows, or you?David Corbin 39:01  I saw Counting Crows. So now, dig this, dig this. So now I'm sitting there with my wife, and my sister in law was in from and so we're there, and I'm actually enjoying Counting Crows. They're really good. That lead singer is like a theatrical performer, he's unbelievable. Right while I'm digging the music, I get the text, can you come backstage now? I'm like, torn between two lovers. I'm digging this music, but who doesn't want to go backstage and hang. Lesley Logan 39:32  With Carlos Santana? David Corbin 39:34  Kind of like, yeah, my life doesn't suck (inaudible) like, my life doesn't say, Okay, thank you. Thank you.Lesley Logan 39:42  Do you think like I feel like we fall into things? So I got to see and our listeners like, what are you talking about? Don't worry, because we'll have Be It Actions in a second. But for my birthday, I had a few friends come out for, like, a girls trip here in Vegas, and I didn't really make a lot of plans. And one of the girls goes, hey, it was, like, six o'clock and we were about to go to a dinner reservation. She's like, hey, do you want to go see The Eagles at The Sphere? And I was like, yeah, I'll go to The Eagles at The Sphere. Like, why not? Just like, yeah, we, we can get these. My friend has two, has box seats. And I was like, okay, even better, you guys. I was in the CEO of The Spheres box seats. I saw The Eagles live at The Sphere, which is like, the venue. My girlfriend goes, I think Bono is right next to us. And I looked over, I was like, No, that's Ringo Starr, babe. People have got to be looking like, who are these two girls at The Eagles concert in a box of The Spear? Because we're definitely not their age group. But I, I know The Eagles I grew up on oldie, like, I'm not, people would be so upset if I called oldies, but that's what I apparently, raised me on that so I was, I was having the best time of my life. Okay, we can share more stories. And obviously you need to have and need to have a hangout session when you're here in Vegas, or I'm gonna come to San Diego this summer, but gonna take a brief break, kinda where people can follow you, find you, stan you, all those things. All right, David, where do you hang out? Where can people read all of your books, like just get obsessed with you in the best way? David Corbin 41:10  Yeah. So here's the deal, my name, my handle. My name is David Corbin. If you can't find me on Google, schmoogle, chat, whatever, then forget about it. So, you know, David, and my email is david@davidcorbin.com and I answer every email, not immediately, but I, not my assistant. And I also have a, you know, I have a chat. I have a robo Dave. I have an AI Dave, which is kind of cool, but I answer any and all emails, because if somebody gives a shit enough to reach out, and if I vibe with them, then I'm going to answer. So there's that. So it's david@davidcorbin.com and I have another name, which is because I mentor some rap stars. So I'm known as everybody calls me Uncle Dave, because, like oldies, I am a freaking oldie. That's all good. I don't care. So, so they said, if you're going to be in this field, we got to give you a handle. Everybody calls your Uncle Dave. So Master P said, your name is Uncle D, U-N-K-A dash d. So I said, yo. And if you doubt if you doubt me, you better out me. He goes, oh yeah, you Uncle D. Lesley Logan 41:10  Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed. David Corbin 42:07  I'm Uncle D, so find me at Uncle D, and the books are all over Amazon. But you know, the most important thing is you don't need me. You need you. Don't go to YouTube. Kill the tube. Tune into the you. Tune into the you. You know a lot more than you give yourself credit for. I'm talking to most people you know a lot more than give self credit towards. So stop dissing yourself. Step into your greatness. You got greatness in you. Don't let anybody kid you. I'm known as the mentor to mentors. People pay me a lot of money to mentor them. Many of the people, I tell them, Okay, you're done. You I see that you got you. You don't need me. So boom mic drop. Lesley Logan 43:08  I can't even think of a better Be It Action Items to end this episode with Uncle Dave. Thank you for thank you for this. I honestly, I'm so excited. However, whomever, whatever got you on this schedule today, you've made mine, and I can't wait to connect with you again. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life. We want to know. Tag Dave, tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. In fact, if you share it with bunch of your friends, guess what? You all start doing competence, and then confidence, and then competence and confidence and rising together, and you don't have those crazy people in your life who bring you down. So thank you so much, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 43:44  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 44:27  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 44:31  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 44:36  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 44:42  Special, thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 44:46  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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In response to Texas' plan to redraw its congressional map to add GOP seats, CA Gov. Newsom is threatening to redistrict here to add Democratic seats. Is it legal? Considered the most powerful psychedelic, 5-MeO DMT causes extreme trips that last only 30 minutes. Two startups are trying to take it to market as a depression treatment.  Lollapalooza runs July 31 to August 3 in Chicago. Three decades ago, it was the country's biggest music festival. It peaked with the 1995 lineup, argues NYT culture editor David Malitz. Last week's “South Park” season premiere targeted President Trump for his lawsuits against media companies. What's next for creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone?

In this Rerun of episode 7 of the MAX Afterburner Podcast Whiz details both his ibogaine and 5 MEO DMT experiences and how they changed his life. Whiz attempts to put words to the indescribable and how for the first time in decades he healed from pain and trauma in his life. Now Whiz serves as a self-proclaimed 'disciple', putting the ladder down to help other fighter pilot veterans potentially heal with psychedelic-assisted therapy.

In this episode, I sit down with the extraordinary Tricia Eastman, a traditional Mestiza medicine practitioner, Bwiti initiate, and author of Seeding Consciousness. With over a decade of experience working with plant medicines like ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT, Tricia brings rare insight into the intersection of ancestral wisdom and modern psychedelic healing.We dive deep into the significance of indigenous-led biocultural preservation, how plant medicine can reconnect us with our spiritual roots, and what it really means to walk a path of initiation. Tricia shares her powerful story of healing from an eating disorder, and how her own encounters with sacred medicines led her to a life of global service—from facilitating retreats with special operations veterans to founding the nonprofit Ancestral Heart.Whether you're curious about iboga, exploring sacred sexuality, or seeking deeper purpose, Tricia brings the kind of grounded wisdom and integrity this space desperately needs.DISCLAIMER: This podcast is for educational purposes only and not intended for diagnosing or treating illnesses. The hosts disclaim responsibility for any adverse effects from using the information presented. Consult your healthcare provider before using referenced products. This podcast may include paid endorsements.THIS SHOW IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY:BEAM MINERALS | Use code LUKE for 20% off your order at lukestorey.com/beam.KORRECT | Go to korrectlife.com/luke and use the code LUKE to get 15% off.SUNLIGHTEN | Save up to $600 when you go to lukestorey.com/sunlighten and use code LUKESTOREY in the pricing form.MAGNESIUM BREAKTHROUGH | Use code LUKE10 for 10% off at bioptimizers.com/luke.MORE ABOUT THIS EPISODE:(00:00:00) Light in the Lion's Den: Davos, Power, and Somatic Healing(00:23:16) Iboga: The Plant Teacher of Courage, Clarity, & Ancestral Healing(01:10:02) The Sacred Rituals & Mystical Power of Iboga Initiation(01:36:41) Masculine & Feminine Energy, Psychedelics, and the Genius of Balance(02:09:31) Iboga's Breakthrough Role in Addiction Recovery(02:38:34) Inside the Mystical Wisdom of the Kogi Elders(02:51:10) A Future Healing Sanctuary Born from Sacred VisionResources:• Website: psychedelicjourneys.com • Website: ancestralheart.com • Instagram: instagram.com/psychedelicjourneys • Facebook: facebook.com/triciaeastmanofficial • X: x.com/TriciaEast36721 • Shop all our merch designs at lukestoreymerch.com• Check out Gilded By Luke Storey:

A leadership coach and facilitator from Montreal, MJ returns to the podcast for a deep conversation about trust, ego, surrender, and what it means to stay in the work even when the path is unclear.In this second conversation with MJ, she reflects on the two journeys she's had with Enfold — and the powerful before-and-after that shaped both. From her solo cross-country pilgrimage to the spiritual breakthroughs and ego whiplash that followed, MJ shares with rare honesty what it means to navigate an expanded state and still meet the demands of everyday life.This is a conversation about letting go, staying with the unknown, and learning to hold paradox with grace. In This Episode:The deep knowing that brought MJ back a second timeHer encounter with “the resistance” — and how it shaped her ceremonyThe moment she realized, “I don't need to know anything”Why integration was more challenging the second time — and more beautiful

Otto Maier is a retreat leader with Tandava Retreats and the Head of Integration at FIVE.  Through his private practice, _Soul & Psyche_, he supports individuals in navigating both ecstatic and traumatic states of consciousness by blending Depth Psychology, Internal Family Systems (IFS), Somatic work, Non-Pathologizing frameworks, and the ongoing decolonization of the modern psyche. Otto's integrative approach to healing and psychedelic work has been translated into educational programs for fellow therapists and guides, adapted into training curricula across the psychedelic field, and is currently being applied in research on 5-MeO-DMT.  ⁠His work centers on honoring the full range of human experience—not as something to fix, but something to be in a deep and reverent relationship with. --- Enrol in the Visionary Medicines Program: https://www.caiyudakiora.com/visionary-medicines Join the Newsletter & Access the Free 21 Page eBook: https://www.caiyudakiora.com/newsletter --- TOPICS WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE:

Tiffany had built a successful career in commercial real estate and was living in beautiful Vancouver with her partner of 14 years. But beneath the surface, something wasn't sitting right.She was looping in painful relationship dynamics, waking in the middle of the night, and feeling stuck in stories that kept her in a cycle of suffering. When a last-minute spot opened at Enfold, she said yes — not knowing it would be the start of a complete nervous system reset.In this episode, Tiffany shares the full arc of her experience: from the fears she held about group work, to the deep emotional release during ceremony, and the six weeks of physical and energetic reactivations that followed. Her story is one of courage, embodiment, and learning how to trust herself again — not through the mind, but through the body.Whether you're navigating anxiety, wrestling with relational patterns, or longing for a felt connection to yourself, Tiffany's experience is a vivid reminder: you are not too much, and you're not alone.In This Episode:Releasing old stories and reclaiming presenceThe sacred unraveling of her full release ceremonyLearning to trust her nervous system as a guideLearning to lead with love, and the rest will follow

Send us a textThe path to FDA approved prescribable medicine has been a long and precarious one for psychedelics. However, recent reports by some of the major players in the psychedelic medicine space show promising results from clinical trials involving psilocybin and 5-MeO-DMT. In today's episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, we review the topline data from these recent reports and explore what the future of psychedelic therapies might look like for people struggling with mental health conditions. For those of you who are new to the show, welcome! Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers is brought to you by Numinus Network and is hosted by Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison.Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

Send us a textIn this powerful conversation, I'm joined by Steve Rio, visionary co-founder of Enfold — a transformational retreat centre offering deeply intentional experiences with 5-MeO-DMT, one of the most powerful psychedelic compounds known for opening the heart and expanding consciousness.Steve shares his journey into creating Enfold, the philosophy behind designing safe, sacred spaces for healing, and how retreat experiences can spark profound shifts in how we live, love, and relate to ourselves and the world.We dive into:✨ Why creating physical and energetic space matters for emotional healing ✨ How 5-MeO-DMT can facilitate profound heart opening and clarity ✨ The intersection of business, creativity, and spirituality ✨ Practical tools for conscious living ✨ Steve's personal practices for staying grounded and inspiredThis episode is an invitation to explore how stepping away from the noise — and into intentional environments — can help us remember who we truly are.Connect with Steve Rio

I'm back with the luminous Cru von Holtzendorff-Fehling, a gifted soul reader, healer, and one of the most tuned-in beings I know. Cru has an extraordinary ability to read the energy systems and soul blueprints of others, and her deep understanding of the human energy field is matched only by the warmth and humility she brings to her work.In this intimate and vulnerable conversation, we explore the transformative power of 5-MeO-DMT–also known as bufo, how our energetic anatomy works, and how trauma, conditioning, and egoic patterns disrupt it; plus, shadow work, integrating darkness, and how accepting every part of ourselves is the path to wholeness.If you've ever felt stuck in old patterns, overwhelmed by sensitivity, or curious about the deeper layers of energetic healing, this episode is a masterclass in becoming who you really are. Learn more about the Path of the Healer Training Course at cru-essence.com/pathofthehealer.DISCLAIMER: This podcast is for educational purposes only and not intended for diagnosing or treating illnesses. The hosts disclaim responsibility for any adverse effects from using the information presented. Consult your healthcare provider before using referenced products. This podcast may include paid endorsements.THIS SHOW IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY:CALROY | Visit calroy.com/luke to get 25% off and free shipping, plus a free bag of their microbiome gum.QUANTUM UPGRADE | Get a 15-day free trial with code LUKE15 at lukestorey.com/quantumupgrade.SUNLIGHTEN | Save up to $600 when you go to lukestorey.com/sunlighten and use code LUKESTOREY in the pricing form.NUCALM | Go to nucalm.com and use code LUKE for 15% off!MORE ABOUT THIS EPISODE:(00:00:00) Microdosing the Divine: Soothing the Ego into Surrender(00:29:01) Befriending the Ego & Cleansing the Subtle Body(00:52:26) Sensitivity as a Superpower & Fine-Tuning the Energy Body(01:09:00) Cleansing the Astral Body & Mushroom Medicine for All Beings(01:21:17) Radical Acceptance: Love, Pain, & the End of Resistance(01:31:02) Entities, Projections, & the True Power of Integration(01:47:41) Beyond Vision Boards: True Manifestation & the Path of Unconditioning(01:59:31) The End of the Karma Loop & Mastering the Self(02:28:31) Path of the Healer: Training, Transmission, & Soul MasteryResources:• Website: cru-essence.com• Instagram: instagram.com/cruessence• Shop all our merch designs at lukestoreymerch.com• Check out Gilded By Luke Storey: gildedbylukestorey.com• Join me on Telegram: t.me/lukestorey

What happens when both people in a partnership choose healing — not just for themselves, but for each other?Jen and Ryan are married entrepreneurs raising two young boys and running a busy business in the Okanagan. On the outside, life looked good. But underneath, they were both navigating burnout, disconnection, unspoken stories, and years of overwhelm. First Jen came to Enfold, then months later, Ryan followed. What unfolded between — and after — is one of the most intimate, transformative couple journeys we've ever witnessed.This conversation is about choosing change even when it's hard, and about what becomes possible when both people in a partnership feel safe enough to be fully seen.Whether you're in a relationship or walking your own path, Jen and Ryan's story is a deeply human reminder: the work we do inside ourselves shapes how we show up for everything we love.In This Episode:What healing looked like — separately, then togetherParenting while navigating personal transformationThe return of fun, safety, and shared practicesReleasing old identities, and how that changed everything

If you're a parent, a creative, or someone navigating unexpected terrain in midlife — this one might land close to home. James O'Meara is a 44-year-old architect, father of two, and artist living in Brooklyn, New York.In this conversation, James opens up about the challenges that led him to seek deeper support — including the slow onset of a neurological condition, waves of anxiety and depression, and a quiet longing for more presence in his life. What unfolds is a story of courage, surrender, and the return to joy. His journey touches on meditation, fatherhood, art, and the experience he had with us at Enfold — an experience that helped bring him back into contact with a part of himself he thought was lost.Whether you're someone who has “tried everything” or you simply feel far from your own sense of aliveness, James' story is a reminder: healing is possible. And you don't have to do it alone.In This Episode:The moment James knew something had to changeHis relationship with fear, faith, and finding a new kind of freedomWhy creativity and presence became his compassA glimpse into his experience with the medicine, and the integration that followed

We are excited to host Tommaso Barba for this episode on the Mangu.tv podcast series. Tommaso Barba is a PhD candidate at the Centre for Psychedelic Research, Imperial College London, exploring the brain effects of short-acting psychedelics such as DMT and 5-MeO-DMT. Under the supervision of Dr. David Erritzoe, Prof. David Nutt and Dr. Chris Timmermann, his work focuses on the potential to treat depression and enhance well-being. He authored the first scientific paper on psychedelics on sexual functioning, published in Nature Scientific Reports and compared psilocybin to antidepressants. With a background in neuroscience and psychoanalysis from Maastricht University, Tommaso also investigates psychedelics' impact on romantic intimacy. A passionate science communicator, he engages audiences via LinkedIn and X.Tommaso shares the story of his upbringing in Bologna, Italy.  He speaks about his fascination with psychoanalysis from a young age, his early confusion with sexuality, and rise in popularity due to his social media presence. He speaks about his disenchantment with the world he was in, and the superficiality of some of his relationships, as well as the cathartic moment, and subsequent fascination in mind and altered states. Giancarlo and Tommaso discuss expanded states and the mind's capacity to go beyond the subconscious. They speak about holotropic breathwork, the internal family system, and the varying acceptance of wisdom and madness depending on perspective and place. Tommaso shares upcoming and current projects, and speaks about his various trials with psychedelics, relationships and the mind, at Imperial College London.

From Combat to Clarity: The Healing Journey of Mark Keller This week's Team Never Quit episode features Lieutenant Commander Mark Keller, a retired U.S. Navy Naval Flight Officer who served his country with distinction in combat zones around the world—including Kosovo, Iraq, and post-9/11 Afghanistan. But after two decades of intense operational service, Mark faced a more insidious enemy at home: the devastating mental, emotional, and physical toll of war. In this powerful conversation, Mark opens up about his early years as a thrill-seeker, his journey from the Air Force to earning his commission into the Navy, and the harrowing missions that left scars no one could see. He recounts the mission that haunted him most—the unintended loss of innocent life—and how that moment triggered a years-long battle with PTSD, addiction, broken relationships, and near-death experiences. But Mark's story doesn't end in darkness. He takes us inside his transformational healing journey, made possible by plant-based neurogenesis therapies including Ibogaine and 5-MEO-DMT. Supported by the nonprofit Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions (VETS) and inspired by fellow veterans like Marcus Luttrell and Marcus Capone, Mark discovered not only deep healing—but a new purpose. Now an advocate for alternative PTSD treatments and featured in the upcoming documentary No Fallen Heroes, Mark shares how love, neuroplasticity, and hard-fought self-discovery helped him reclaim his life.  If you or someone you love is a veteran struggling with PTSD, you're not alone. Reach out, share this episode, and explore the healing resources shared today. In This Episode You Will Hear: • When you've got 2 Lieutenants with 15,000 pounds of gas and an hour to kill in an F-14, what are you gonna do? (18:46) • If there's any flat earthers listening to this… the earth is round. (19:28) • As I look over on my left, I start seeing bright orange, all over the place. And I switched around on my seat, and the whole back of the plane's on fire. Holy shit! (25:30) • A lot of guys got in the habit of making sure they had a mag in there. They wanted to be sure to take themselves out, before the Taliban got ‘em. (36:22) • [Marcus: a buddy of mine] came over the wood line and dropped down over our crawfish boil, you could see him come down; rolled over to do a panel check; and hung us the finger. (43:53) • Why are you gonna strap an explosive-laden rocket to your ass, if you can't do something fun with it? (44:44) • Detailed discussion related to lasers and precision bombing. (48:27 to 55:30) • People have different experiences, and you make decisions based on what you know. (59:21) • I got home to my wife and my 2 young sons, and I wasn't the same. (75:35) • Every time you launch, you gotta be on the ball. You're at 100% all the time. You have to. Mission success, and sometimes survival requires it. (77:19) • The life of a fighter air crew in the Navy: Poor quality sleep, not the best nutrition, constant high stress for months at a time, bathing in and drinking water contaminated with jet fuel, the G-forces associated with catapult shots and arrested landings deform your brain rather violently, you're flying with a 10,000 watt radar down by your feet, when you're at altitude, there's nothing between you and God but a piece of plexiglass. Why are guys getting prostate cancer? I don't know. We can guess about that, can't we? (78:09) • There were times that I was so screwed up that I knew that next one was gonna kill me and I said I don't care and I did it anyway. I don't know why I'm not dead. (95:47) • Ibogaine doesn't give you what you want, it gives you what you need. (124:45) • Ibogaine is a medicine that works on cellular metabolism and neuro transmitters and happens to have some psychedelic-like effects. (128:45) • I've just learned to not be too attached to what other people think. (164:42)

“You don't need to sit with this medicine to be working with this frequency. If you're listening to this, you already are.” In this Mystical Series of This Cosmic Life, Tara Samadhi sits with her partner and co-facilitator, Geoff, to explore the profound realms of Bufo Alvarius 5-MeO-DMT. Together, they share personal stories, insights, and some sacred reflections on working with this potent medicine.Geoff offers his lived wisdom as a self-taught mystic, alchemist, and guide, reflecting on the non-conceptual nature of Bufo and how it works beyond the mind to create deep transformation. They speak on preparation, the importance of honoring the call, and the delicate art of serving this frequency—whether in ceremony or through self-guided paths.This conversation is both an offering and an invitation—to surrender, to trust, and to remember that the medicine begins working the moment we hear its whisper.

Stephan Kerby, director of the Mindscape Institute, comes back on the podcast to share all about his new book, Trauma-Informed 5-MeO-DMT Facilitation: An Educational Manual, which we produced together expanding on materials used for the class of the same name with the institute. In this conversation we discuss not only the content, but also the process of how the book came about, what it offers, and how it can be used for those looking to expand their awareness of facilitation. It's available now at Amazon in paperback and ebook. 

What happens when your world feels like Groundhog Day?In this episode, Devin — a husband, leader, and high-functioning achiever — shares his journey from emotional numbness, alcohol patterns, and resistance to clarity, connection, and self-trust. After witnessing his wife's transformation through Enfold, Devin knew there was something powerful waiting for him too. But fear, avoidance, and identity in work kept him circling the edges. Three years later, everything aligned and Devin knew it was the right timing.What followed was a homecoming through medicine, an unexpected bond with a group of men walking similar paths, and a newfound capacity to sit with whatever life brings and observe it — instead of being consumed by it.Devin's story is for anyone who feels stuck and spiritually restless — quietly wondering if there's more to life than just making it through.In This Episode, We Explore:Why Devin resisted the call to healing — and what finally opened him to the journeyHow workaholism and alcohol masked deeper woundsWhat made the all-men's cohort feel safe, relatable, and profoundly healingThe power of group healing for men navigating shame, addiction, and identityWhat shifted in Devin's sense of purpose, presence, and connectionHow the Enfold experience continues to unfold months later — through brotherhood, integration, and inner peace

Andrés Gomez Emilsson is the director of the San Francisco–based Qualia Research Institute (QRI), a nonprofit developing formal models of consciousness and emotional valence. QRI's research aims to untangle the harmonic, computational, and symmetry-driven mechanisms underlying phenomenological experience. They approach the optimization of subjective experience through two powerful psychotechnologies — psychedelics and meditation — using them to explore the state-space of mind and map the structure of qualia. In this conversation, we discuss the phenomenology of enlightenment, the non-local field effects of consciousness, and one of Andrés' side projects: how perfumes and smells modulate perception and emotional geometry. Check out his work at https://qri.org/ and follow his channel at https://www.youtube.com/@QualiaResearchInstitute.MAKE HISTORY WITH US THIS SUMMER:https://demystifysci.com/demysticon-2025PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysciPARADIGM DRIFThttps://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show00:00 Go!00:04:22 Research Phases and Insights00:06:37 Dynamic Systems and Brain Waves00:10:00 Neural Oscillation and Interaction00:15:17 Coupled Oscillators and Consciousness00:21:55 Brain Activity and Anesthesia00:23:35 Understanding Brain Patterns and Psychedelics00:26:03 Consciousness Beyond Molecular Interactions00:28:06 Meditation and Psychedelic Experiences00:30:19 Tracer Effects as Psychedelic Signatures00:34:09 Insights into High-Dose Psychedelic Experiences00:40:05 Safety and Ethics in Psychedelic Use00:44:16 Psychedelics and Meditation's Impact00:51:55 Frames of Perception and Transformation00:56:00 Psychedelic Experiences and Emotional Well-being01:01:13 Harm Reduction and Substance Use01:05:09 Acceptance and Stress Management01:06:30 Meditation Techniques for DMT Experiences01:10:18 Nature's Role in Stress Dissipation01:14:18 Psychedelics in Modern Society01:22:03 Meditation vs. Psychedelics01:26:39 Psychedelic Experiences and Personal Growth01:28:01 Laser Chess as a Metaphor for Brain Function01:32:42 Expectation and Experience01:36:07 Ego and Enlightenment01:41:03 Identifying Enlightenment and Cultural Dynamics01:46:16 Recognizing and Switching Views01:48:24 Understanding Ego and Motivation01:51:00 The Artist's Dilemma01:53:37 Enlightenment and Motivation01:57:07 Paths to Enlightenment02:00:16 Psychedelics and Consciousness02:06:32 Flow States in Art and Life02:09:24 Meditation and Music as Repetitive Practices02:11:57 Awakening and Functionality Post-Transformation02:14:31 The Hive Mind and Inner Harmony02:18:11 The Impact of 5-MeO-DMT on Consciousness02:22:49 Visual Illusions and Perceptions of Reality02:24:49 Neural Annealing Theory02:30:02 Music and Neural Annealing02:34:20 Surprise, Comedy, and Sensory Experience02:37:47 The Art and Science of Perfumery02:44:09 Using Scents to Influence Emotional States02:51:48 Scents Inspired by the Natural World02:55:04 Premium Fragrances for Fundraising02:57:28 Pear and Violet Perfume Exploration03:00:47 Sensory Experiences with Perfumes03:13:32 Understanding Brain Dynamics with Psilocybin03:16:04 Personal Experiences and Differences in Psychedelic Effects #psychedelicscience , #consciousness , #neuroscience, #brainwaves , #psychedelictherapy, #meditationscience , health, #psychedelicexperience, #neuroplasticity #philosophypodcast, #sciencepodcast, #longformpodcast ABOUS US: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Join Dr. Katie at CANCER:  FROM FEAR TO HOPE on May 8, 2025https://heal.regfox.com/heal-from-fear-to-hopeCode: KATIERESILIENCE10When unexpected challenges arise, what tools help us process them without storing trauma in our bodies?Dr. Katie Deming and Kelly Gores explore the powerful connection between emotional processing and physical healing. Kelly Gores, creator of the HEAL documentary and host of the Heal with Kelly podcast, shares personal insights from her journey through divorce and losing her home in a fire. As someone who interviews leading wellness experts, Kelly offers a unique perspective on applying healing practices during real-life crises.Chapters:05:25 – From actress to healer, Kelly's transformation11:41 – The daily ritual that keeps Kelly grounded15:02 – When her house burned down 28:24 – Kelly experience with 5-MeO-DMT (a powerful plant medicine)36:49 – Why the cancer fears are more dangerous than the diagnosisThey address common struggles like feeling overwhelmed by health diagnoses, not knowing how to process difficult emotions, and wondering why conventional approaches sometimes fall short.You'll discover practical tools for nervous system regulation, the surprising influence of your subconscious mind, and how meditation can serve as an anchor during life's most challenging moments. Listen and expand your understanding of what's possible when we address health through physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual dimensions.HEAL with Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healwithkelly/HEAL with Kelly Podcast: https://tinyurl.Send us a text with your question (include your phone number)Join Dr. Katie at CANCER: FROM FEAR TO HOPE on May 8, 2025https://heal.regfox.com/heal-from-fear-to-hopeCode: KATIERESILIENCE10 Transform your hydration with the system that delivers filtered, mineralized, and structured water all in one. Spring Aqua System: https://springaqua.info/drkatie MORE FROM KATIE DEMING M.D. Download Your Free Webinar & Ultimate Guide to Water Fasting to Heal Cancer and Chronic Illness https://www.katiedeming.com/prolonged-water-fasting/6 Pillars of Healing Cancer Workshop Series - Click Here to EnrollWork with Dr. Katie: www.katiedeming.comFollow Dr. Katie Deming on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katiedemingmd/ Take a Deeper Dive into Your Healing Journey: Dr. Katie Deming's Linkedin Here Please Support the Show Share this episode with a friend or family member Give a Review on Spotify Give a Review on Apple Podcast DISCLAIMER:The Born to Heal Podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for seeking professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Individual medical histories are unique; therefore, this episode should not be used to diagnose...

Send us a textWhat happens when a Special Operations veteran confronts ego death, suffering, and healing through psychedelics?In this deeply introspective episode of Security Halt!, host Deny Caballero sits down with Diego Ugalde, who shares his life-changing experiences with 5-MeO-DMT and other psychedelic therapies. Together, they explore the complex and often misunderstood world of plant medicine and its role in unlocking emotional resilience, self-discovery, and personal transformation.Diego opens up about:His initial skepticism and what led him to explore psychedelicsThe powerful lessons he learned about ego, discipline, and common humanityWhy psychedelics are tools—not cures—for trauma and emotional painHow storytelling, integration, and reflection play a role in sustainable healingThe importance of acceptance, suffering, and embracing pain as a path to growthThis conversation isn't just about altered states—it's about finding deeper meaning, breaking generational cycles, and creating space for radical awareness in our daily lives.If you're curious about how psychedelics intersect with veteran healing, mental health, and personal growth, this episode offers raw, honest insights from someone who's lived it.

What happens when the outside world can't fix what's aching inside?In this episode, Pam — a midlife professional with a “wonderful life” — shares her awakening journey from high-functioning discomfort to embodied presence.After years of success, productivity, and emotional self-reliance, Pam began to sense something was off. It wasn't burnout. It wasn't crisis. It was a quiet but persistent dis-ease. A cousin's powerful transformation with 5-MeO-DMT sparked her curiosity, and a series of heart-opening medicines slowly helped her loosen the grip of control and allow herself to feel.What followed was a deep unraveling of old patterns, a discovery of inner safety, and a shift from external validation to internal regulation.Pam's story is an invitation for anyone who's spent their life doing it all “right” — and still feels like something's missing.In This Episode, We Explore:Pam's journey from heart openers to psychedelics — and why she needed to start slowHow perfectionism, people-pleasing, and over-functioning masked her deeper woundsWhat happened when she experienced “being” for the first time in her lifeThe moment she realized her nervous system had been outsourcing safety for decadesWhy slow, supported healing allowed her to meet herself with compassionHow the Enfold experience helped her come home to the truth already within

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Today on the show, we're diving headfirst into the wonderful, wild world of psychedelics. No, not the type that leads to hugging trees and marrying your toaster! I'm talking about real, science-backed, brain-rewiring, potentially life-changing therapy.And helping us navigate this trippy territory are two absolute legends - Kathryn and Mick Ledden, siblings who through their individual work and partnership are helping to redefine our understanding of mental health and treatment in Ireland. Kathryn (a medical doctor) and Mick (a psychotherapist) co-created PsyCare Ireland, a pioneering non-profit that provides essential psychological care and education at events and festivals nationwide. Their trained volunteers hold space for people in need of support for any reason, including after ingesting substances such as psychedelics.They've got the science, they've got the soul, and—thankfully for us—they've got beautiful way of making all this stuff understandable, accessible and exciting. Kathryn, a clinical research fellow at TCD, is engaged in groundbreaking clinical trials using psilocybin and 5-MeO-DMT to treat various mental health conditions. Meanwhile, Mick facilitates psilocybin retreats in the Netherlands with Inwardbound, whose vision is in their own words “to provide to a platform to facilitate people's self-exploration: a safe and legal container for this process, in a supportive, non-judgemental and transparent way. To promote inner transformation, personal breakthroughs, self-growth, creativity and inner healing.” So stick the kettle on, open your mind (and maybe your chakras, if they're handy), and get ready to chat about mushrooms, mental health, and how Ireland might be about to lead the world in psychedelic therapy.If you're new to the series, why not take the time to go back and catch up on the wonderful interviews that you may have missed!Visit www.dermotwhelan.com for more information and don't forget my new book Busy and Wrecked is out now! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Meaning Project Podcast, Dr. Dan engages in a deep conversation with therapist Greg Liotta about the intersections of mature masculinity, psychedelic therapy, and personal growth. They explore the importance of surrendering to experiences, the role of psychedelics like 5-MeO-DMT, and the significance of breathwork in healing. The discussion also touches on the societal pressures surrounding masculinity and the need for connection and understanding in mental health. In this conversation, Dr. Dan and Greg Leota explore profound themes of transcendence, emotional maturity, and the integration of spiritual experiences into daily life. They discuss the significance of 5-MeO, the role of anger in spirituality, and the importance of self-love and emotional regulation. The dialogue emphasizes the journey of ego dissolution, the healing power of connection, and the quest for personal growth and meaning.TakeawaysMature masculinity involves embracing vulnerability and softness.Psychedelic therapy can facilitate personal growth and healing.Surrendering to experiences can lead to profound insights.5-MeO-DMT is derived from the Bufo alvarius toad and has unique properties.Breathwork is a powerful tool for accessing deeper states of consciousness.Connection and community are essential for mental health.Societal pressures can distort perceptions of masculinity.Trusting nature and the healing process is crucial.Neuroscience supports the idea of seeking transcendent experiences.Healing involves both scientific and spiritual dimensions. Transcendence can be observed in the brain through practices.5-MeO experiences can lead to profound self-realization.The universe is inherently loving and not conditional.Emotional maturity is crucial for spiritual growth.Self-love involves setting healthy boundaries.Anger can be a powerful emotion that needs healthy expression.Trauma responses can lock individuals in negative emotional states.Ego dissolution allows for a deeper understanding of self.Connection with others is vital for healing and growth.Finding meaning in life is a personal journey that varies for everyone.

In this powerful conversation, past Awakening to Life guest Alanna shares her journey from psychedelic neuroscience researcher to spiritual seeker — and the transformation that unfolded when she finally followed the quiet call within.Alanna had studied the mechanisms of psilocybin in the lab. But it wasn't research that brought her to Enfold — it was intuition. After years of being “functional but not fulfilled,” a perfectly timed conversation and a sense of inner readiness aligned. What followed was a full-body release, a reconnection to self, and a knowing that “this will benefit me for the rest of my life.”This episode is for anyone trying to think their way into healing — and ready to feel instead.In This Episode, We Explore:Why Alanna — a trained psychedelic scientist — chose to experience 5-MeO-DMTThe tension between logic and intuition, and how she learned to trust the latterHer perspective on neurogenesis, trauma, and psychedelic healingWhat it felt like to let go of years of suppressed emotionHow the integration journey continues to unfold months laterWhy even researchers need to be held, guided, and reminded they are safe

Facilitator Chad Charles discusses the dangers of excessive 5-MeO-DMT use in participants and facilitators, as well as how to notice when people need help. ... This is a clip from 'Building Best Practices In The Underground Subculture Of 5-MeO-DMT | Chad Charles', Adventures Through The Mind Podcast, episode 113 FULL INTERVIEW Listen on iTunes Listen on Spotify Watch in Video Read the show notes What happened to Tobias Listen on iTunes Listen on Spotify Watch on YouTube Show notes SUPPORT THE PODCAST

What if everything you owned was suddenly gone? What if life forced you to surrender in the most extreme way possible? In this deeply personal solo episode of the HEAL with Kelly Podcast, I share my transformative journey through the devastation of the recent California fires, which took the home that my daughter and I were renting along with all our cherished belongings. With raw honesty, I recount the emotional rollercoaster of loss, resilience, and the overwhelming love and support that all of us affected continue to receive from the greater community.   I reflect on the profound lessons that emerged from this tragedy — surrender, trust, and healing — and how my experience at 40 Years of Zen unexpectedly prepared me with the resilience I would need just days later. I also open up about my recent psychedelic journey with BUFO or 5-MeO-DMT, an experience that has forever changed me in a beautiful way.   For anyone going through a massive life change, loss, a diagnosis, divorce, or the aftermath of a natural disaster, I hope my story will provide hope that there is life after destruction, and sometimes life needs to bring everything to ashes before the phoenix of our power, purpose, and truth can RISE. Join me as I vulnerably share my path forward — embracing the knowing that I will rebuild and land exactly where I'm meant to. LINKS Website: https://healwithkelly.co/ HEAL with Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/healwithkelly/ Kelly Gores Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kellygores/ HEAL with Kelly Podcast: https://tinyurl.com/healwithkellypodcast SPONSORS HONEYLOVE: Go to https://www.honeylove.com/HEAL and use our exclusive link to get 20% OFF. Connect with Kelly: ·     Watch all episodes on YouTube ·     Sign up for HEAL with Kelly newsletter ·     Follow Kelly on Instagram ·     Follow HEAL with Kelly on Instagram ·     HEAL with Kelly on TikTok ·     Follow HEAL with Kelly on Facebook ·     Visit HEAL with Kelly Website ·     Watch the HEAL Documentary ·     Get the HEAL Book Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices