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Is traditional sales outreach becoming less effective? And if so, what replaces it?In today's episode, I chat with Jean-Philippe Schepens van Thiel, founder of AxonJay, about how real-time data, predictive behavior, and AI-generated signals are fundamentally changing how we approach sales. If you've ever felt like your messaging is falling flat or that your timing is always off, this conversation is your blueprint for modernizing outreach.Meet Jean-Philippe Schepens van ThielJean-Philippe is the founder and CEO of AxonJay AI, a company helping B2B sellers harness the power of predictive signals to find the right opportunities at the right time. With over 15 years in data-driven sales and marketing, including a successful exit to Dun & Bradstreet, JP is now on a mission to help sales teams break through the noise and win deals with precision.Sales Outreach at an Inflection PointBuyers are bombarded by thousands of messages a week, most of which they delete without reading. Jean-Philippe believes we've hit a critical point in the evolution of sales, where volume no longer wins relevance and timing does. Instead of relying on old data and gut instinct, modern sales teams need to know when to reach out, what to say, and why it matters to the buyer right now.Build Your Sales CocktailJean-Philippe compares outreach success to making the perfect cocktail: timing, targeting, and content must all be in balance. One missing or outdated ingredient ruins the mix. Using AI, his company translates billions of daily data points into actionable signals then helps reps validate and fine-tune their approach using real-time context.Let AI Enhance, Not Replace, the Human ElementContrary to fear-mongering about AI replacing jobs, JP argues that AI will actually make sales more human. With technology handling research and signal aggregation, salespeople can focus on high-value conversations, empathy, and relationship-building.“It's not about more data. It's about the right data.”“Outreach isn't dead—but it's evolved.”“You need the right message at the right time.” “I want you to come to me with stuff proving.”Lessons from the FieldStop using last year's data to make today's decisions.Think beyond single signals and build context with a cocktail of signals.Use AI to filter your target list down to the 10% who are ready now.Personalize messaging with current, relevant activity not guesses.Combine automation with human feedback to improve results over time.ResourcesLearn more at Axonjay.aiConnect with Jean-Philippe via email (JP@axonjay.ai) or through the websiteImprove your outreach and sales game join our Sales Mastermind ClassThinking of launching a podcast? Check out Blue Mango StudiosSponsorship OffersThis episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at

This is the last special solo episode for a while. Thankfully, Robert and Joe will be back next week to make nonsense about marketing and content news. But today's episode is something a little different. In 1937, Napoleon Hill wrote Think and Grow Rich. His ideas about belief, desire, and persistence changed lives—Joe's included. Joe's new book, Burn the Playbook, is his answer to what Think and Grow Rich would look like today. It's not just about financial wealth...it's about freedom. Mental freedom. Physical health. Time freedom. It's the book Joe wanted his kids to have…the book that they could share with their kids about living a life of purpose. This episode of This Old Marketing is about how to build a platform strong enough to carry the weight of your dreams. Six months ago, Joe was 20 pounds heavier. He felt foggy, sluggish, reactive. He was still productive, sure...but didn't feel sharp. He didn't feel like he was operating at his best. And he decided that wasn't okay anymore. Many of you know this, but Joe's family has a history of Alzheimer's as well. He always thought he was relegated to this fate and there was nothing he could do. Joe's since found there are many things he can do to build a better brain (if you will), so that he can live a better life and be around, in all forms, for his kids and their kids, in addition to living a life of freedom (which we'll discuss). So he made some changes. Not radical ones. Just simple, consistent ones. And Joe wants to share them with you—not as a health expert, but as a creator who realized that if your body and brain break down, your business doesn't stand a chance. Let's get into it.   ----- This week's links: Americans Check Phone 144 Times Per Day The Cost of Multitasking ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

AI agents are revolutionizing marketing automation. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, shares his expertise on how agentic AI is transforming traditional marketing workflows. He highlights key thought leaders marketers should follow for AI insights, including Matthew Berman's technical yet accessible content and HubSpot's "Marketing Against the Grain" podcast for practical implementation strategies.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Want our 6 AI-engineered prompts to turn Claude into your own data analyst? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/vwr Ep. 348 What if you could build an entire year-long content strategy in just one AI prompt? Kipp dives into the brand new HubSpot and Claude AI integration that's set to revolutionize how marketers work. Learn more on building your ideal customer profiles and personalized content calendars, running instant marketing attribution and ROI analysis, and developing lead nurturing and account-based marketing campaigns—all directly inside Claude and HubSpot. Mentions Claude https://claude.ai/ HubSpot https://www.hubspot.com/company-news/hubspot-connector-claude Anthropic https://www.anthropic.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We're creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you're facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we've put together a survey and we'd love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

AI agents are reshaping marketing automation. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains the shift from managing people to orchestrating AI agents. He emphasizes that current AI technology isn't the bottleneck - rather, organizations need structured frameworks for agent management, clear guidelines for implementation, and new metrics for evaluating management effectiveness in hybrid human-AI teams.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome back to SmartBug on Tap, where we dig into smarter, more scalable HubSpot strategy for marketing, sales, and RevOps teams. In this episode, Casey Peddicord sits down with Sandy Moore, SmartBug's Senior Director of Account Strategy, to unpack one of the most complex—and misunderstood—topics in enterprise marketing: attribution. Whether you're battling siloed data, long sales cycles, or disconnected touchpoints, attribution reporting can feel impossible to get right. But it can work—and Sandy's here to show you how. From model selection to executive dashboards to AI's evolving impact on reporting, this is a must-listen for anyone working in enterprise RevOps or marketing operations.

Will AI replace marketing jobs by 2028? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, examines the evolution of AI agents and their impact on marketing automation. He explores how agentic AI is fundamentally changing marketing workflows, team structures, and job functions. Holland also shares insights on staying current with AI developments through content creators like Matthew Berman who balance technical depth with practical business applications.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have a question for Darrell? Text the show here.Want to turn AI and digital disruption into your competitive advantage as a service-based business? Join the MindShift Inner Circle.Want help to market, grow, and scale your business? Schedule a free strategy session.More and more B2B tech companies are hitting the same wall: revenue that used to flow through referrals and word-of-mouth is drying up. I recently spoke with a company pulling 4,000 website visitors a month but only 5 leads in 6 months. Sound familiar?After 15 years running an agency that's generated over $300M for clients, I've seen firsthand why the old lead gen playbook isn't just outdated—it's working against you.In this episode, I break down:Why even giants like HubSpot lost 70% of their trafficThe real reason B2B pipelines are collapsingA smarter framework to rebuild leads without burning cash on ads that don't workIf your pipeline feels stuck and your sales team is starving for leads, this episode will show you exactly how to turn things around. Revolutionize your marketing with AI in a community of established founders and CEOs. Join the MindShift Inner Circle today and stay ahead of the curve! If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Your feedback helps us more than you know.

Hey CX Nation,In this week's episode of The CXChronicles Podcast #262, we welcomed Pasquale DeMaio, Vice President at Amazon Web Services (AWS) based in Seattle, WA. Launched in 2006, Amazon Web Services (AWS) began exposing key infrastructure services to businesses in the form of web services -- now widely known as cloud computing.Today, Amazon Web Services provides a highly reliable, scalable, low-cost infrastructure platform in the cloud that powers hundreds of thousands of businesses in 190 countries around the world. With data center locations in the U.S., Europe, Singapore, and Japan, customers across all industries are taking advantage of our low cost, elastic, open and flexible, secure platform.In this episode, Pasquale and Adrian chat through the Four CX Pillars: Team, Tools, Process & Feedback. Plus share some of the ideas that his team at AWS think through on a daily basis to build world class customer experiences.**Episode #262 Highlight Reel:**1. How AWS thinks about team-building strategies  2. Leveraging Amazon Connect's Unified AI Engine  3. Streamlining customer service & success to fuel growth 4. Investing & supporting employee-driven innovation & cross-team collaboration 5. Building customer-centricity into the DNA of your engineering team Click here to learn more about Pasquale DeMaioClick here to learn more about Amazon Web Services (AWS)Huge thanks to Pasquale for coming on The CXChronicles Podcast and featuring his work and efforts in pushing the customer experience & customer success space into the future.If you enjoy The CXChronicles Podcast, stop by your favorite podcast player hit the follow button and leave us a review today.For our Spotify friends, make sure you are following CXC & please leave a 5 star review so we can find new listeners & members of our community.For our Apple friends, same deal -- follow CXCP and leave us a review letting folks know why you love our customer focused content.You know what would be even better?Go tell one of your friends or teammates about CXC's content,  strategic partners (Hubspot, Intercom, & Zendesk) & On-Demand services & invite them to join the CX Nation!Want to see how your customer experience stacks up to others, ask us about the CXC Healthzone, an intelligence platform that shares benchmarks & insights from companies across the world. Huge thanks for being apart of the "CX Nation" and helping customer focused business leaders across the world make happiness a habit!Reach Out To CXC Today!Support the showContact CXChronicles Today Tweet us @cxchronicles Check out our Instagram @cxchronicles Click here to checkout the CXC website Email us at info@cxchronicles.com Remember To Make Happiness A Habit!!

Will AI replace marketing jobs by 2028? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, examines the evolution of AI agents and their impact on marketing automation. He explores how agentic AI is fundamentally changing marketing workflows, team structures, and job functions. Holland also shares insights on staying current with AI developments through content creators like Matthew Berman who balance technical depth with practical business applications.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chain.io is a vertical integration platform deeply embedded in the shipping and logistics space, helping connect massive freight companies with retail brands through the millions of messages required to track shipments and navigate customs. With $18 million in funding, the company has positioned itself as critical infrastructure for an industry that became front-page news during COVID. In this episode, Brian Glick shares hard-won lessons about building in a legacy industry, the realities of enterprise sales cycles, and why he never took himself out of the sales process. Topics Discussed: Building vertical iPaaS for logistics before the category existed in supply chain How COVID accelerated understanding of data movement as a strategic problem The challenge of selling complex integration technology to legacy industries Transitioning from founder-led sales while maintaining founder involvement Using podcasting as relationship-building infrastructure for 10-year customer lifecycles Building authentic employee thought leadership without formal programs The impact of AI on traditional integration and data movement businesses GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Don't fully remove yourself from enterprise sales—strategically deploy your founder advantage: Brian learned that completely stepping back from sales was a mistake. Instead, he discovered the power of strategic founder involvement: "As a founder I am an incredible asset to my team, but that doesn't mean I have to be on every meeting." He now enters deals at the beginning to build relationships, trusts his sales team to advance opportunities, then returns at crucial moments to help close negotiations. This approach maximizes founder value while empowering the sales team. Timing pain points matters more than pain intensity: Chain.io experienced a counterintuitive sales pattern during COVID—initial uptick as customers felt pain, followed by a downturn when pain became overwhelming. Brian observed: "A little bit of pain is good for sales... when it gets too much pain, people freeze up." B2B founders should recognize that acute customer pain creates urgency, but excessive pain paralyzes decision-making. The sweet spot is when customers feel enough discomfort to act but retain capacity to evaluate new solutions. Legacy industries require relationship-based, not scale-based GTM motions: After trying to build a "standard SaaS BDR SDR style go-to-market machine," Brian realized it was wrong for both his market timing and industry culture. He pivoted back to relationship-driven sales focused on live events and consultative engagement. For enterprise logistics customers making decisions that affect 40 countries, "nothing is simple and no decision is made by one person who's going to click a buy now button." Founders in traditional industries should think more like SAP than HubSpot. Use podcasting as relationship infrastructure, not lead generation: Brian launched his podcast "almost day one" as free marketing, but discovered its real value in relationship building for long sales cycles. He doesn't track metrics or measure ROI traditionally, noting: "I know that I've gotten a CIO of a major freight company... [who] sent me a screenshot of my podcast... and I know how much that one customer pays me is more than I've ever invested in the podcast." For B2B founders with complex sales cycles, content should build relationships rather than optimize for attribution. Build category understanding through customer education, not just problem-solving: When Chain.io launched in 2017, "that category did not exist in supply chain." Brian spent years helping customers understand that data movement was a strategic, first-tier problem rather than something "you tack on the end of some other project." Category creation often requires patient market education—founders must be prepared to invest in customer understanding before expecting rapid adoption, especially in conservative industries.   //   Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe.  www.GlobalTalent.co   //   Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM 

„Master of Search“ war für viele ein Synonym für exzellente Google Ads. Aber die Realität ändert sich – und wir mit ihr. In dieser Episode erfährst du, warum wir unsere Marke zu Master of Scaling weiterentwickeln – und was das für dich konkret bedeutet. Denn wenn du 2025 mit Google Ads noch effizient arbeiten willst, brauchst du mehr als nur Kampagnenwissen. Du brauchst ein System, das Strategie, CRM, Automationen und Kanäle sinnvoll miteinander verbindet. Ich zeige dir: – warum PMAX-Kampagnen jetzt mehr Daten liefern – aber auch mehr Interpretationsfehler verursachen können – wie du Mobile-Apps als Geldfalle erkennst und ausschließt – welche Stolperfallen AI-Max mitbringt und wann du lieber die Finger davon lässt – wie du Branding-Richtlinien richtig nutzt – und warum viele Google Ads-Konten durch fehlendes Tracking oder falsche Annahmen systematisch Geld verbrennen Außerdem erfährst du, wie du mit Tools wie Make, ChatGPT & CRM-Verknüpfungen (HubSpot, Salesforce & Co) dein Marketing nicht nur effizienter, sondern auch skalierbarer machst. Die Zeit von „nur Google“ ist vorbei. Jetzt geht's um dein ganzheitliches Wachstum. Wenn du verstehen willst, wo bei dir noch echtes Potenzial liegt – hör rein.

Custom AI agents vs. out-of-the-box tools: which delivers better ROI? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, shares his expertise on the evolution of AI agents in marketing automation. He recommends starting with pre-built AI tools before attempting custom development, emphasizing the importance of mastering prompt engineering and data integration first. Holland outlines a practical progression path from using AI for basic tasks to implementing complex automated workflows that can transform marketing operations.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Send us a textIn episode 266 of Beyond The Story, Sebastian Rusk interviews Eric Baum, the CEO and Founder of Bluleadz, a top HubSpot agency. With over 15 years of experience, he drives business growth through inbound marketing, HubSpot strategy, and team development, highlighting the importance of community and personal growth. Tune in for an inspiring discussion that dives deep into the entrepreneurial spirit and the importance of community support in business.TIMESTAMPS[00:02:39] HubSpot onboarding and implementation.[00:05:22] Business partnership challenges.[00:10:08] Leveraging AI in business.[00:14:36] AI efficiency in business.[00:16:12] Embrace change for profitability.QUOTES"Embrace change. If you're an owner of a company or an executive, you need to spend time on your own and learning some of these technologies." -Eric Baum“We're going to look at your entire company and provide ways for you to become more efficient, more profitable, and help grow revenue.” -Eric Baum==========================Need help launching your podcast?Schedule a Free Podcast Strategy Call TODAY!PodcastLaunchLabNow.com==========================SOCIAL MEDIA LINKSSebastian RuskInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/podcastlaunchlab/Facebook: Facebook.com/sruskLinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/in/sebastianrusk/YouTube: Youtube.com/@PodcastLaunchLabEric Baum LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericbaumbz/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/eric.baum.bz/ X: https://x.com/Eric_Baum WEBSITEBluleadz: https://www.bluleadz.com/ ==========================Take the quiz now! https://podcastquiz.online/==========================Need Money For Your Business? Our Friends at Closer Capital can help! Click here for more info: PodcastsSUCK.com/money==========================PAYING RENT? Earn airlines when you do with the Bilt Rewards MastercardAPPLY HERE: https://bilt.page/r/2H93-5474

Custom AI agents vs. out-of-the-box tools: which delivers better ROI? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, shares his expertise on the evolution of AI agents in marketing automation. He recommends starting with pre-built AI tools before attempting custom development, emphasizing the importance of mastering prompt engineering and data integration first. Holland outlines a practical progression path from using AI for basic tasks to implementing complex automated workflows that can transform marketing operations.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Send us a textIn this episode we interview Robyn Showers. Robyn brings years of experience from roles at HubSpot and Vimeo to this rich discussion on content, AI, and the future of marketing.What you'll learn in this episode:How Robyn's team uses AI for research, persona development, and SEO contentWhy AI isn't replacing creativity—but making room for more of itThe role of "content IP" and how to atomize it across platformsHow to use AI to assist, not replace, thought leadershipPractical strategies for training teams to prompt effectivelyBuilding an internal culture that encourages experimentation with AIThe importance of distribution when it comes to thought leadershipWhy internal marketing is often the secret to content success

Did AI actually kill SEO? Or are recent traffic drops for sites like HubSpot a sign of something else entirely? In this episode, we're joined by Sam Dunning, founder of Breaking B2B and a leading expert on search strategy, to unpack what's actually happening in the world of SEO. We talk about how AI overviews are changing the way people find information, and what it all means for marketers and revenue teams.Sam shares when SEO still makes sense, when it doesn't, and what to focus on if you want to drive real pipeline today. We also dive into AI-generated content, the role of brand in LLM-driven search, and how to build a practical keyword strategy that works in 2025.(00:00) - Introduction (01:58) - Did AI kill SEO? (06:17) - When SEO doesn't make sense (10:05) - Does SEO still take forever to build? (12:24) - Should we just generate AI content? (15:39) - Buidling a Money Keyword Matrix (22:20) - Who should own the matrix? (24:45) - Quicker vs longer strategies (29:07) - Old school SEO in a world of LLMs (34:08) - Brand builders have a step up (36:21) - Common LLM hacks (43:00) - Measuring SEO in a world of LLMs (48:24) - Nothing's changed. Everything's changed. (50:29) - Wrapping up

des, we've mastered the art of SEO—keywords, backlinks, page rankings. We've built entire marketing strategies around getting to the top of Google's search results. But here's the uncomfortable truth: AI is fundamentally changing how people discover brands and information. When someone asks ChatGPT, Claude, or Perplexity for business recommendations, traditional SEO rankings mean little. Your perfectly optimized website might be invisible to AI algorithms that are now answering millions of queries every day. The businesses that don't adapt aren't just missing opportunities—they're becoming irrelevant. That's exactly why I'm thrilled to have Ben Jacobson join us today. As Chief Content Officer at InboundJunction, Ben works directly with growth-stage tech companies to navigate this new landscape. He's not just theorizing about AI search—he's actively helping brands crack the code on AI visibility. His insights have appeared in Search Engine Land and HubSpot, and he's developed proven strategies for getting brands mentioned in AI responses. Ben understands that this isn't about abandoning everything we know about SEO, but evolving it for an AI-first world. The AI Hat Podcast host Mike Allton asked Ben Jacobson about: ✨ AI-First Optimization: Understanding how to structure content and PR strategies specifically for AI algorithm consumption and recommendation. ✨ Measurement Evolution: Learning new metrics and methods to track brand visibility in AI-powered search environments. ✨ Strategic Integration: Discovering how to blend traditional SEO efforts with emerging AI optimization techniques without disrupting existing operations. Learn more about Ben Jacobson Connect with Ben Jacobson on LinkedIn Resources & Brands mentioned in this episode Inbound Junction AI Work Buddy Mini-Course & Community AI Primer: A Comprehensive Guide Explore past episodes of the The AI Hat Podcast podcast CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction to SEO and AI 01:57 The AI Hat Podcast Introduction 02:18 The Evolution of SEO in the Age of AI 02:59 Interview with Ben Jacobson: Navigating AI Search 06:20 Understanding AI Search and Brand Mentions 11:13 Strategic PR for AI Search 20:04 Challenges and Metrics in AI Search Optimization 26:54 Balancing Traditional SEO and AI Optimization 30:35 Final Thoughts and Future Trends 33:07 Conclusion and Resources SHOW TRANSCRIPT & NOTES: https://theaihat.com/how-ai-search-is-rewriting-the-seo-playbook-and-what-you-must-do-now/https://theaihat.com/how-ai-search-is-rewriting-the-seo-playbook-and-what-you-must-do-now/ Brought to you by The AI Hat - Get Your AI On. Interesting in sponsoring an episode? Learn more here. Powered by Magai - why choose one AI tool when you can have them all? And Descript, the magic wand for podcasters. Produced and Hosted by Mike Allton, AI Consultant & Trainer at The AI Hat, where he's tirelessly helping businesses and marketers get ahead of the AI Revolution and apply advanced technologies to their roles. He's spent over a decade in digital marketing, bringing an unparalleled level of experience and excitement to the fore, whether he's delivering a presentation or leading a workshop. If you're interested in helping business owners with AI in an upcoming episode, reach out to Mike. Powered by the Marketing Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Nicholas, Head of AI at HubSpot discusses AI Agents for marketing automation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If you're a content creator in a business niche and you're NOT going to live events, you're missing one of the easiest ways to grow your influence, revenue, and network. But just showing up isn't enough. You need to be strategic about it. Let me walk you through exactly how to make live events your secret growth engine. 1. Pick the Right Events Don't just go to every conference in your industry. Be selective. Ask yourself: Will my ideal audience or customers be there? Will the people I want to partner or collaborate with be there? Will there be speakers who are already where I want to be? Will the people in attendance be critical to my business model of the future? Smaller, niche events are often better than the giant ones because it's easier to have real conversations. 2. Have a Plan Before You Go Treat this like a marketing campaign. Make a hit list of 5–10 people you want to meet. Connect with them on LinkedIn before the event with a simple message: “Hey, I see we're both going to [Event]. Would love to say hi while we're there.” If they respond, you can add, let me know if you want to grab coffee while there. It's an easy ask. Follow the event app so you can see where people are gathering. Most creators go in blind and just “see what happens.” Don't do that. 3. Work the Room (Even if It's Uncomfortable) Yes, some of this will feel awkward. Do it anyway. Sit at a different table each meal. Go to every networking event, even if you're tired. After a speaker session, walk up, introduce yourself, and thank them. 90% of attendees don't bother, so you'll stand out. When you sit in a session, introduce yourself to at least one person sitting by you. They will thank you for it as they are probably uncomfortable sitting by themselves. 4. Buy the Book, Get It Signed Here's a power move: If the speaker has a book, buy it BEFORE the event. Bring it with you, and after their talk say: “I loved your session. Would you mind signing this? I already bought it—it's been really helpful.” Why? Because now you're not just another attendee—you're someone who invested in their work. People remember that. When I first spoke at Hubspot's inbound, Douglas Burdett from the marketing book podcast, was standing in the back with my book Epic Content Marketing. How could I not stop and talk to him? Since then, we became fast friends and I was on his podcast I think seven times. He did that with so many speakers. 5. Follow Up Fast The magic isn't just at the event—it's what you do after. Send a quick LinkedIn or email note the next day: “Great meeting you yesterday at [Event]. Loved our chat about [Topic]. Let's keep in touch.” If you promised to send someone a resource or an intro, do it within 48 hours. Most people don't follow up, which is why this works so well. The Big Picture Look, content creation can feel like sitting alone behind a keyboard. But the fastest way to build authority and trust is face-to-face. People buy from people they know—and live events shortcut years of online grinding if you do them right. So don't just attend. Be strategic. Have a plan. Make yourself known. That's how live events turn into partnerships, clients, speaking gigs—and real friendships. Pre-order my new book, Burn the Playbook, here ---> https://www.joepulizzi.com/books/burn-the-playbook/ Come join me at Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) in Cleveland August 24-26. Use coupon code CEXDAY to save $200 - https://cex.events/ ------- Like this episode? SUBSCRIBE on Apple, Spotify or Google. See all Content Inc episodes at the Content Inc. podcast home. Get my personal newsletter today and receive my free goal-setting guide today.  

Jason Keath is a creativity keynote speaker, digital strategist, and co-founder of Social Fresh — a long-running marketing conference and agency trusted by brands like HubSpot and Anheuser-Busch. A pioneer in paid social, Jason launched some of the first Facebook ads back in 2004. He's also the author of The Case for More Bad Ideas, where he makes a compelling case for embracing messy thinking to spark better ideas. We discussed all of this and more this week on the On Brand podcast. About Jason Keath Jason Keath was one of the first people in the world to run ads on Facebook in 2004. He's a digital strategy expert and the co-founder of Social Fresh, a digital agency and long-running marketing conference, founded in 2008. Today, Jason leads the agency side of Social Fresh, specializing in research, strategy, and paid media. He's also a sought-after keynote speaker on creativity and the author of The Case for More Bad Ideas, a book that champions a counterintuitive but practical process for unlocking better thinking through messier ideas. He's a 20+ year marketing strategist trusted by companies like HubSpot, Credit Karma, Anheuser-Busch, and Robinhood to help them command attention from the right audience. Jason has hosted thousands of marketers at Social Fresh events, built one of the longest-running communities in digital marketing, and believes the best ideas often start out looking like the worst ones. Want more Jason Keath? Listen to his first interview on the On Brand podcast back in 2016! During the show, Jason mentioned Mastercard's innovations in sonic branding. Here's my interview with Mastercard CMO Raja Rajamannar. What brand has made Jason smile recently? Jason shared examples from YETI, a brand he first fell in love with because of their exceptional product. But now, Jason thinks the brand's marketing has caught up and is just as exceptional as the product itself. Connect with Jason on LinkedIn and subscribe to his newsletter (with new AI tools) at MoreBadIdeas.com. Listen and subscribe at  Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paul Schmidt's journey from a music major to the Vice President of Marketing Innovation at SmartBug Media showcases the powerful intersection of creativity and technology in the business world. His background in music has equipped him with unique skills that translate well into marketing, emphasizing the importance of creativity in crafting compelling narratives that resonate with audiences. Schmidt advocates for a shift in focus from merely acquiring new clients to nurturing existing customer relationships, highlighting the untapped potential within current client bases for sustainable growth. In the rapidly evolving landscape of digital marketing, Schmidt stresses the significance of data-driven decision-making. By gaining a comprehensive understanding of customer interactions across various touchpoints, businesses can tailor their marketing strategies to meet the specific needs of their clients. He also emphasizes the transformative role of artificial intelligence in enhancing creativity and innovation, encouraging organizations to embrace AI as a tool for uncovering insights while maintaining the authenticity of human creativity. To stay updated on the latest developments in HubSpot and maximize its potential, sign up for SmartTake, the #1 Monthly HubSpot Vidcast. Get valuable insights into the newest features and updates from HubSpot, to navigate the platform effectively. For more information and to register, visit SmartBug Media. For the accessible version of the podcast, go to our Ziotag gallery.We're happy you're here! Like the pod?Support the podcast and receive discounts from our sponsors: https://yourbrandamplified.codeadx.me/Leave a rating and review on your favorite platformFollow @yourbrandamplified on the socialsTalk to my digital avatar

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You're posting content on LinkedIn but is it actually bringing in sales leads? In this rerun episode, I sit down with Tom Abbott, LinkedIn strategist and international sales expert, to talk about how you can create content that doesn't just get likes but fills your pipeline. If you're tired of playing the social media game with no ROI, this episode is your blueprint.Meet Tom AbbottTom is the founder of SOCO Sales Training and one of the top voices when it comes to using LinkedIn for B2B sales. He's trained thousands of sales professionals around the world, and in this conversation, he pulls back the curtain on what's working on LinkedIn right now. Whether you're brand new to the platform or looking to sharpen your edge, Tom delivers actionable insights that can lead directly to revenue.Turn LinkedIn Into a Lead MachineTom explains why most sellers get LinkedIn wrong and what to do instead. It's not about being overly polished or promotional. It's about being intentional, authentic, and consistent.Speak to your audience's pain pointsDon't just talk about your product. Talk about the problems your prospects are actively trying to solve.Use a simple post structureTom breaks down the 3-part framework: hook, value, and CTA. Get attention, deliver insight, and give them something to do next.Stay visible without being spammyConsistency beats perfection. Tom shares how often to post, what formats are working best, and how to balance content types.Connect, don't just broadcastThe magic happens in the comments and DMs. If you're not engaging with your audience, you're missing the point."LinkedIn is a sales tool not just a résumé. Use it that way, and it will change your business." – Tom AbbottResourcesFollow Tom Abbott on LinkedIn to see examples of his post structure in action. Check out SOCO Sales Training if you want to take your team's LinkedIn strategy to the next level. Need help building your sales content strategy? Join my Sales Mastermind Class. Visit thesalesevangelist.com for templates, tools, and more episodes to sharpen your selling skillsSponsorship OffersThis episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.CreditsAs one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey

If you or someone you know is building something powerful with AI, and wants $50,000 to make it, now's the time to submit your pitch for The Next Big AIdea, an AI pitch competition hosted by HubSpot Media and HubSpot for Startups. Submit your pitch here: https://www.hubspot.com/startups/ai-pitch-comp In this week's AI update, we're covering ChatGPT's massive usage numbers versus Google's search dominance, plus YouTube's new photo-to-video tool. We'll also dive into senators proposing easier copyright lawsuits against AI companies and whether our electrical infrastructure can actually handle the AI boom. Plus: YouTube's ad dollars explode and Taco Bell has a new feature. Join our hosts Jon Weigell and Maria Gharib as they take you through our most interesting stories of the day. Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thehustle.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehustledaily/ Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit subscribe or follow us on your favorite podcast player, so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/  If you are a fan of the show be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review, and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues.

In this solo episode of This Old Marketing, Robert dives headfirst into the uncomfortable - and increasingly urgent - tension at the heart of modern content strategy: Can we still create truly human content, full of nuance, voice, and emotional honesty… while also making sure the machines don't misinterpret (or mangle) what we mean? Inspired by the announced end of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Robert explores how the final stretch of a show - or a career, or even a blog archive - can shape both public perception and machine learning for years to come. This week Robert covers: Why “good” content now means craft, not just output. The shift from writing for search engines to teaching AI what to say about you. The danger (and opportunity) of legacy content becoming training data. A new strategy for structuring content that serves both people and machines. Four practical steps you can take right now to future-proof your brand's voice. Oh - and Joe's out this week, off pitching new names for the Guardians and Commanders to the Trump administration. Don't worry. Robert's got it handled. Tune in, laugh a little, squirm a little, and leave with a renewed sense of purpose—and a checklist. ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

In this Power Producers Podcast episode, David Carothers shares valuable insights on content marketing, focusing on the importance of building a blog on your own domain, using SEO tools like Yoast, and effectively leveraging email marketing. David explains how to optimize your content creation process, automate tasks, and scale your marketing efforts. Whether you're just starting or looking to refine your strategy, this episode will help you grow your agency and generate leads consistently. Key Highlights: Own Your Content David emphasizes the importance of building your blog on your own domain rather than third-party platforms, ensuring you retain ownership of your content. Optimizing with Yoast SEO Yoast is a powerful SEO tool that helps ensure all content is optimized for search engines. David shares how he uses it to make sure everything in Yoast is green for the best results. Email Marketing for Success Despite email overload, David encourages agents to build an email list and regularly send out content. Email marketing remains a powerful tool for nurturing leads and driving sales. Using Automation Tools David highlights how using tools like HubSpot and virtual assistants (VAs) can streamline content distribution and client communications, saving time and increasing productivity. Focus on Consistency and Delegation The key to successful content marketing is consistency. David stresses the importance of creating a content strategy you can stick to and delegating tasks to scale your efforts without burning out. Scaling Your Content Marketing To grow your agency, David recommends using AI tools like ChatGPT for research, content creation, and brainstorming, then pushing that content through your website, email lists, and social media channels. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes  

If you or someone you know is building something powerful with AI, and wants $50,000 to make it, now's the time to submit your pitch for The Next Big AIdea, an AI pitch competition hosted by HubSpot Media and HubSpot for Startups. Submit your pitch here: https://www.hubspot.com/startups/ai-pitch-comp We're covering the legal battle between viral "Sylvanian Drama" creator Thea Von Engelbrechten and Epoch Company, who claim her darkly comedic toy skits are causing "irreparable injury" to their toy brand. The creator who turned forgotten toys into a cultural phenomenon earning over $1 million annually now faces up to $150,000 per violation, while fans argue she gave the company the best free marketing ever. Plus: Zuck's compound grows and Liquid Death is set to release energy drinks. Join our hosts Jon Weigell and Juliet Bennett as they take you through our most interesting stories of the day. Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thehustle.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehustledaily/ Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit subscribe or follow us on your favorite podcast player, so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/  If you are a fan of the show be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review, and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues.

If you or someone you know is building something powerful with AI, and wants $50,000 to make it, now's the time to submit your pitch for The Next Big AIdea, an AI pitch competition hosted by HubSpot Media and HubSpot for Startups. Submit your pitch here: https://www.hubspot.com/startups/ai-pitch-comp A new generation of children's magazines is succeeding by offering beautifully designed, ad-free alternatives to screen time, with publications like Kazoo raising over $171,000 on Kickstarter and achieving profitability through subscription models. So how are entrepreneurs building sustainable businesses by creating premium, keepsake-quality magazines that help parents cut their kids screentime? Plus: The Tesla diner is open and the LA Times is headed for an IPO. Join our host Jon Weigell as he takes you through our most interesting stories of the day. Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thehustle.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehustledaily/ Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit subscribe or follow us on your favorite podcast player, so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/  If you are a fan of the show be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review, and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues.

Scaling without losing speed is harder than it looks — especially when you're chasing enterprise customers and building an AI-native platform. Lindsey Scrase, Chief Operating Officer of Checkr, Inc., reveals how her customer-first mindset, forged during her tenure at Google Cloud, is driving Checkr's transformation into a core hiring infrastructure platform while scaling AI across operations. With a track record of building high-velocity GTM motions and a strong commitment to second-chance hiring, she explains what it takes to evolve into an AI-native enterprise.Specifically, Lindsey covers:(03:55) Early-stage Google Cloud, then called Google Apps.(06:46) How a culture of wearing multiple hats inspired continuous improvement.(10:40) Early execs need curiosity and first-principles thinking over fixed playbooks.(15:57) A shift from gig-focused roots to strong SMB and mid-market segments.(21:39) Strong leaders think long-term and dive deep into day-to-day details.(27:16) Enterprise growth demands tight alignment across GTM, product and CS.(31:25) AI will become table stakes as true adoption goes beyond branding and hype.(35:25) Generative AI chat boosts CSAT by delivering instant, contextual responses.(41:13) Take bigger swings earlier and don't take things so seriously.(45:01) Direct feedback builds trust and prevents conflict from turning toxic.Resources Mentioned:Lindsey Scrasehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/lindsey-scrase-0702442/Checkr | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/checkr-com/Checkr | Websitehttps://checkr.com/Trueworkhttps://www.truework.com/“Working Backwards” by Bill Carr and Colin Bryarhttps://www.amazon.com/Working-Backwards-Insights-Stories-Secrets/dp/1250267595“The Five Dysfunctions of a Team” by Patrick Lencionihttps://www.amazon.com/Five-Dysfunctions-Team-Leadership-Fable/dp/0787960756This episode is brought to you by:Leverage community-led growth to skyrocket your business. From Grassroots to Greatness by author Lloyed Lobo will help you master 13 game-changing rules from some of the most iconic brands in the world — like Apple, Atlassian, CrossFit, Harley-Davidson, HubSpot, Red Bull and many more — to attract superfans of your own that will propel you to new heights. Grab your copy today at FromGrassrootsToGreatness.comEach year the U.S. and Canadian governments provide more than $20 billion in R&D tax credits and innovation incentives to fund businesses. But the application process is cumbersome, prone to costly audits, and receiving the money can take as long as 16 months. Boast automates this process, enabling companies to get more money faster without the paperwork and audit risk. We don't get paid until you do! Find out if you qualify today at https://Boast.AILaunch Academy is one of the top global tech hubs for international entrepreneurs and a designated organization for Canada's Startup Visa. Since 2012, Launch has worked with more than 6,000 entrepreneurs from over 100 countries, of which 300 have grown their startups to seed and Series A stage and raised over $2 billion in funding. To learn more about Launch's programs or the Canadian Startup Visa, visit https://LaunchAcademy.caContent Allies helps B2B companies build revenue-generating podcasts. We recommend them to any B2B company that is looking to launch or streamline its podcast production. Learn more at https://contentallies.com#Leadership #GTMStrategy #EnterpriseGrowth #Product #Marketing #Innovation #StartUp #GenerativeAI #AI

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Constraints breed innovation—and in LATAM, it's become a competitive edge. In this episode of Owning the Outcome, we hear from Cecilia Hayafuji, who saw cracks in the system and built HAL into an elite HubSpot partner agency. From her early days navigating global tech giants to launching her own firm at 50, our guest has lived through every major shift in the industry—and is now leading the charge into AI-powered growth across Latin America. Cecelia shares how constraints shaped strategy, why quality beats scale, and what makes LATAM one of the most fertile grounds for AI adoption today. If you're thinking about building in uncertain times, scaling with precision, or leading through change—this one's for you.

Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa dive into the tenets of the Cluely marketing playbook, focusing specifically on lessons for adtech and martech founders and marketers. In short: Tell a provocative story about heroes and villains, leverage the CEO as chief evangelist, and capitalize on social channels. Also, Joe shares a big idea for scaled adtech companies: buy creator-led media, especially Marketecture, à la Hubspot and The Hustle.

In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie and Chris discuss how to unlock hidden value and maximize ROI from your existing technology using AI-powered “manuals on demand.” You will discover how targeted AI research can reveal unused features in your current software, transforming your existing tools into powerful solutions. You will learn to generate specific, actionable instructions that eliminate the need to buy new, expensive technologies. You will gain insights into leveraging advanced AI agents to provide precise, reliable information for your unique business challenges. You will find out how this strategy helps your team overcome common excuses and achieve measurable results by optimizing your current tech stack. Tune in to revolutionize how you approach your technology investments. Watch the video here: Can’t see anything? Watch it on YouTube here. Listen to the audio here: https://traffic.libsyn.com/inearinsights/tipodcast-how-to-improve-martech-roi-with-generative-ai.mp3 Download the MP3 audio here. Need help with your company’s data and analytics? Let us know! Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn – 00:00 In this week’s In Ear Insights, let’s get a little bombastic and say, Katie, we’re gonna double everyone’s non-existent ROI on AI with the most unused—underused—feature that literally I’ve not seen anyone doing, and that is manuals on demand. A little while ago, in our AI for Market Gender VI use cases for marketers course and our mastering prompt engine for Marketers course and things like that, we were having a conversation internally with our team saying, hey, what else can we be doing to market these courses? One of the things that occurred to me as I was scrolling around our Thinkific system we used is there’s a lot of buttons in here. I don’t know what most of them do, and I wonder if I’m missing something. Christopher S. Penn – 00:53 So, I commissioned a Deep Research report in Gemini saying, hey, this is the version of Thinkific we’re on. This is the plan we’re on. Go do research on the different ways that expert course creators market their courses with the features in Thinkific. It came back with a 28-page report that we then handed off to Kelsey on our team to say, hey, go read this report and see, because it contains step-by-step instructions for things that we could be doing in the system to upsell and cross-sell our courses. As I was thinking about it, going, wow, we should be doing this more often. Christopher S. Penn – 01:28 Then a friend of mine just got a new phone, a Google Pixel phone, and is not skilled at using Google’s all the bells and whistles, but she has a very specific use case: she wants to record concert videos with it. So I said, okay, let’s create a manual for just what features of the Pixel phone are best for concerts. Create a step-by-step explanation for a non-technical user on how to get the most out of the new phone. This gets me thinking across the board with all these things that we’re already paying for: why aren’t more of us creating manuals to say, hey, rather than go buy yet another tool or piece of software, ask one of the great research agents, hey, what are we not using that we should be. Katie Robbert – 02:15 So, it sounds like a couple of different things. There’s because you’re asking the question, what are we not using that we could be, but then there’s an instruction manual. Those are kind of two different things. An instruction manual is meant to be that A to Z, here’s everything it does, versus what are we specifically not using. I feel like those are two different asks. So, I guess my first question to you is, doesn’t most software come with some kind of an instruction manual or user guide these days? Or is that just, it no longer does that. Christopher S. Penn – 02:52 It does. There’s usually extensive documentation. I misspoke. I should have said manuals on demand specifically for the thing that you want. So yes, there’s a big old binder. If you were to print out the HubSpot CRM documentation, it’d be a 900-page document. No one’s going to read that. But I could use a Deep Research tool to say, how can I use just this feature more effectively? Given here’s who Trust Insights is, here’s how our marketing was. Here’s the other tools we use. How could I use this part of HubSpot better? Instead of getting all 900 pages of the manual, I get a manual of just that thing. That’s where I think, at least for me personally, the opportunity is for stuff that we’re already paying for. Christopher S. Penn – 03:32 Why pay for yet another tool and complicate the Martech stack even more when there might be a feature that we’re already paying for that we just don’t even know is there. Katie Robbert – 03:45 It, I feel like, goes to a couple of things. One, the awareness of what you already have in front of you. So, we’re a smaller company, and so we have a really good handle on all of the tools in our tech stack. So, we have the luxury of being able to say these are the goals that we have for the business. Therefore, what can—how can we use what we already have? Whereas if you’re in a more enterprise-sized company or even a mid-sized company where things are a little bit more siloed off, that’s where those teams get into the, “well, I need to buy something to solve this problem.” Katie Robbert – 04:23 Even though the guy on the other side of the cubicle has the tech that I need because of the firewall that exists or is virtual, I can’t use it. So, I have to go buy something. And so, I feel like—I don’t know—I feel like “manual” is the wrong word. It sounds like what you’re hitting on is, “this is my ICP”, but maybe it’s a different version of an ICP. So, what we typically—how we structure ICPs—is how we can market to and sell to specific prospective customers based on their demographics, technographics, pain points, buying patterns, the indicators that a digital transformation is coming, those kinds of things. Katie Robbert – 05:09 It sounds like there’s a need for a different version of an ICP that has a very specific pain point tied to a specific piece of technology or a marketing campaign or something like that. I feel like that would be a good starting place. It kind of always starts with the five Ps: What is the problem you’re trying to solve? Who are the people? What is the process that you currently have or are looking to do? What is the platform that you have in front of you? And then what is your performance metric? I feel like that’s a good starting place to structure this thinking because I’m following what you’re saying, Chris, but it still feels very big and vague. So, what I’m trying to do is think through how do I break it down into something more consumable. Katie Robbert – 05:56 So for me, that always kind of starts with the five Ps. So, what you’re describing, for example, is the purpose: we want to market our courses more efficiently through our Thinkific system. The people are Kelsey, who leads a lot of that, you as the person who owns the system, and then our ICP, who’s going to buy the courses. Process: That’s what we’re trying to figure out is what are we missing. Platform: We already know it’s our Thinkific, but also the different marketing channels that we have. Performance would be increased core sales. Is that an accurate description of what you’re trying to do? Christopher S. Penn – 06:42 It is. To refine the purpose even more, it’s, “what three features could we be using better?” So, I might even go in. In the process part, I might say, hey, I’m going to turn on a screen share and record my screen as I click through our Thinkific platform and hand that to a tool like Gemini and say, “what am I not using?” I don’t use a section, I use this section. Here’s what I’ve got in this section. I don’t know what this button does. And having it almost do an audit for us of, “yeah, there’s that whole bundle order bundles thing section here that you have no bundles in there.” Christopher S. Penn – 07:20 But you could be creating bundles of your courses and selling a pack of courses and materials, or making deluxe versions, or making pre-registration versions. Whatever the thing is, another simple example would be if we follow the five Ps, Katie: you’ve got a comprehensive outline of the AI-Ready Marketing Strategy Kit Course slide deck in a doc. Your purpose is, “I want to get this slide deck done, but I don’t want to do it slide by slide.” You’re the people. The process right now is manually creating all 100x slides. The platform is Google Slides. The performance would be—if we could find a way to automate that somehow with Google Slides—the huge amount of time saved and possibly your sanity. Katie Robbert – 08:13 Put a price on that one. Christopher S. Penn – 08:16 Yeah. So, the question would be, “what are we missing?” What features are already there that we’re already paying for in our Google Workspace subscription that we could use now? We actually did this as an exercise ourselves. We found that, oh yeah, there’s Apps Script. It exists, and you can write code right in Google Slides. That would be another example, a very concrete example, of could we have a Deep Research agent take this specific problem, take the five Ps, and build us a manual on demand of just how to accomplish this task with the thing we’re already doing. Katie Robbert – 08:56 So, a couple more questions. One, why Deep Research and why not just a regular LLM like ChatGPT or just Gemini? Why the Deep Research specifically? And, let’s start there. Christopher S. Penn – 09:14 Okay, why? The Deep Research is because it’s a research agent. It goes out, it finds a bunch of sources, reads the sources, applies our filtering criteria to those sources, and then compiles and synthesizes a report together. We call, it’s called a research agent, but really all it is, is an AI agent. So, you can give very specific instructions like, “write me a step-by-step manual for doing this thing, include samples of code,” and it will do those things well with lower hallucinations than just asking a regular model. It will produce the report exactly the way you want it. So, I might say, “I want a report to do exactly this.” Katie Robbert – 09:50 So, you’re saying that Deep Research hallucinates less than a regular LLM model. But, in theory—I’m just trying to understand all the pieces—you could ask a standard LLM model like Claude or Gemini or ChatGPT, go find all the best sources and write me a report, a manual if you will, on how to do this thing step-by-step. You could do that. I’m trying to understand why a Deep Research model is better than just doing that, because I don’t think a lot of people are using Deep Research. For you, what I know at least in the past month or so is that’s your default: let me go do a Deep Research report first. Not everybody functions that way. So, I’m just trying to understand why that should be done first. Christopher S. Penn – 10:45 In this context, it’s getting the right sources. So, when you use a general LLM, it may or may not—unless you are super specific. Actually, this is true of everything. You have to be super specific as to what sources you want the model to consider. The difference is, with Deep Research, it uses the sources first, whereas in a regular model, it may be using its background information first rather than triggering a web search. Because web search is a tool use, and that’s extra compute that costs extra for the LLM provider. When you use Deep Research, you’re saying you must go out and get these sources. Do not rely on your internal data. You have to go out and find these sources. Christopher S. Penn – 11:27 So for example, when I say, hey, I’m curious about the effects of fiber supplements, I would say you must only use sources that have DOI numbers, which is Document Object Indicator. It’s a number that’s assigned only after a paper has passed peer review. By saying that, we reject all the sources like, oh, Aunt Esther’s healing crystals blog. So, there’s probably not as much useful information there as there is in, say, something from The New England Journal of Medicine, which, its articles are peer-reviewed. So, that’s why I default to Deep Research, because I can be. When I look at the results, I am much more confident in them because I look at the sources it produces and sites and says, “this is what I asked for.” Christopher S. Penn – 12:14 When I was doing this for a client not too long ago, I said, “build me a step-by-step set of instructions, a custom manual, to solve and troubleshoot this one problem they were having in their particular piece of software.” It did a phenomenal job. It did such a good job that I followed its instructions step-by-step and uncovered 48 things wrong in the client software. It was exactly right because I said you must only use the vendor’s documentation or other qualified sources. You may not use randos on Reddit or Twitter, or whatever we’re calling Twitter these days. That gave me even specifying it has to be this version of the software. So, for my friend, I said, “it has to be only sources that are about the Google Pixel 8 Pro.” Christopher S. Penn – 13:03 Because that’s the model of phone she has. Don’t give me stuff about Pixel 9, don’t give me stuff about Samsung phones. Don’t give me stuff about iPhones, only this phone. The Deep Research agents, when they go out and they do their thing, reject stuff as part of the process of saying, “oh, I’ve checked this source and it doesn’t meet the criteria, out it goes.” Katie Robbert – 13:27 So, all right, so back to your question of why aren’t people building these instruction manuals? This is something. I mean, this is part of what we talk about with our ICPs: a lot of people don’t know what the problem is. So, they know that something’s not quite right, or they know that something is making them frustrated or uncomfortable, but that’s about where it stops. Oftentimes your emotions are not directly tied to what the actual physical problem is. So, I feel like that’s probably why more people aren’t doing what you’re specifying. So, for example, if we take the Thinkific example, if we were in a larger company, the conversation might look more like the CFO saying, “hey, we need more core sales.” Katie Robbert – 14:27 Rather than looking at the systems that we have to make promotion more efficient, your marketing team is probably going to scramble and be like, “oh, we need to come up with six more campaigns.” Then go to our experts and say, “you need four new versions of the course,” or “we need updates.” So, it would be a spiral. What’s interesting is how you get from “we want more course revenue” to “let me create a manual about the system that we’re using.” I feel like that’s the disconnect, because that’s not. It’s a logical step. It’s not an emotionally logical step. When people are like, “we need to make more money,” they don’t go, “well, how can we do more with the systems that we have?” Christopher S. Penn – 15:31 It’s interesting because it actually came out of something you were saying just before we started this podcast, which was how tired you are of everybody ranting about AI on LinkedIn. And just all the looniness there and people yelling the ROI of AI. We talked about this in last week’s episode. If you’re not mentioning the ROI of what you’re doing beforehand, AI is certainly not going to help you with that, but it got me thinking. ROI is a financial measure: earn minus spent divided by spent. That’s the formula. If you want to improve ROI, one of the ways you can do so is by spending less. Christopher S. Penn – 16:07 So, the logical jump that I made in terms of this whole Deep Research approach to custom-built manuals for specific problems is to say, “what if I don’t need to add more vendors? What if I don’t need?” This is something that has come up a lot in the Q&A, particularly for your session at the AI for B2B Summit. Someone said, “how many MarTech tools do we need? How many AI tools do we need? Our stack is already so full.” “Yeah, but are you using what you’ve already got really well?” And the answer to that is almost always no. I mean, it’s no for me, and I’m a reasonably technical person. Christopher S. Penn – 16:43 So, my thinking along those lines was, then if we’re not getting the most out of what we’re already paying for, could we spend less by not adding more bills every month and earn more by using the features that are already there that maybe we just don’t know how to use? So, that’s how I make that leap: to think about, go from the problem and being on a fire to saying, “okay, if ROI is what we actually do care about in this case, how do we earn more and spend less? How do we use more of what we already have?” Hence, now make custom manuals for the problems that we have. A real simple example: when we were upgrading our marketing automation software two or three weeks ago, I ran into this ridiculous problem in migration. Christopher S. Penn – 17:28 So, my first instinct was I could spend two and a half hours googling for it, or I could commission a Deep Research report with all the data that I have and say, “you tell me how to troubleshoot this problem.” It did. I was done in 15 minutes. Katie Robbert – 17:42 So, I feel like it’s a good opportunity. If you haven’t already gotten your Trust Insights AI-Ready Marketing Strategy Kit, templates and frameworks for measurable success, definitely get it. You can get it at Trust Insights AIkit. The reason I bring it up, for free—yes, for free—the course is in the works. The course will not be free. The reason I bring it up is because there are a couple of templates in this AI readiness kit that are relevant to the conversation that Chris and I are having today. So, one is the basic AI ROI projection calculator, which is, it’s basic, but it’s also fairly extensive because it goes through a lot of key points that you would want to factor into an ROI calculation. Katie Robbert – 18:31 But to Chris’s point, if you’re not calculating ROI now, calculating it out for what you’re going to save—how are you going to know that? So, that’s part one. The other thing that I think would be really helpful, that is along the lines of what you’re saying, Chris, is the Top Questions for AI Marketing Vendors Cheat Sheet. Ideally, it’s used to vet new vendors if you’re trying to bring on more software. But I also want to encourage people to look at it and use it as a way to audit what you already have. So, ask yourself the questions that you would be asking prospective vendors: “do we have this?” Because it really challenges you to think through, “what are the problems I’m trying to solve? Who’s going to use it?” Katie Robbert – 19:17 What about data privacy? What about data transformation? All of those things. It’s an opportunity to go, “do we already have this? Is this something that we’ve had all this time that we’re, to your point, Chris, that we’re paying for, that we’re just not using?” So, I would definitely encourage people to use the frameworks in that kit to audit your existing stuff. I mean, that’s really what it’s meant to do. It’s meant to give you a baseline of where you’re at and then how to get to the next step. Sometimes it doesn’t involve bringing on new stuff. Sometimes it’s working with exactly what you have. It makes me think of people who start new fitness things on January 1st. This is a very specific example. Katie Robbert – 20:06 So, on January 1st, we’re re-energized. We have our new goals, we have our resolutions, but in order to meet those goals, we also need new wardrobes, and we need new equipment, and we need new foods and supplements, and all kinds of expensive things. But if you really take a step back and say, “I want to start exercising,” guess what? Go walk outside. If it’s not nice outside, do laps around your house. You can do push-ups off your floor. If you can’t do a push-up, you can do a wall push-up. You don’t need anything net new. You don’t need to be wearing fancy workout gear. That’s actually not going to make you work out any better. It might be a more mental thing, a confidence thing. Katie Robbert – 20:54 But in all practicality, it’s not going to change a damn thing. You still have to do the work. So, if I’m going to show up in my ripped T-shirt and my shorts that I’ve been wearing since college, I’m likely going to get the same health benefits if I spent $5,500 on really flimsy-made Lululemon crap. Christopher S. Penn – 21:17 I think that right there answers your question about why people don’t make that leap to build a custom manual to solve your problems. Because when you do that, you kind of take away the excuses. You no longer have an excuse. If you don’t need fancy fitness equipment and a gym membership and you’re saying, “I can just get fit within my own house with what I’m doing,” then I’m out of excuses. Katie Robbert – 21:43 But I think that’s a really interesting angle to take with it: by actually doing the work and getting the answers to the questions. You’re absolutely right. You’re out of excuses. To be fair, that’s a lot of what the AI kit is meant to do: to get rid of the excuses, but not so much the excuses if we can’t do it, but those barriers to why you don’t think you can move forward. So, if your leadership team is saying, “we have to do this now,” this kit has all the tools that you need to help you do this now. But in the example that you’re giving, Chris, of, “I have this thing, I don’t know how to use it, it must not be the right thing.” Let me go ahead and get something else that’s shinier and promises to solve the problem. Katie Robbert – 22:29 Well, now you’re spending money, so why not go back to your point: do the Deep Research, figure out, “can I solve the problem with what I have?” The answer might still be no. Then at least you’ve said, “okay, I’ve tried, I’ve done my due diligence, now I can move on and find something that does solve the problem.” I do like that way of thinking about it: it takes away the excuses. Christopher S. Penn – 22:52 Yeah, it takes away excuses. That’s uncomfortable. Particularly if there are some people—it’s not none of us, but some people—who use that as a way to just not do work. Katie Robbert – 23:05 You know who you are. Christopher S. Penn – 23:07 You know who you are. You’re not listening to this podcast because. Katie Robbert – 23:10 Only motivated people—they don’t know who they are. They think they’re doing a lot of work. Yes, but that’s a topic for another day. But that’s exactly it. There’s a lot of just spinning and spinning and spinning. And there’s this—I don’t know exactly what to call it—perception, that the faster you’re spinning, the more productive you are. Christopher S. Penn – 23:32 That’s. The more busy you are, the more meetings you attend, the more important you are. No, that’s just. Katie Robbert – 23:38 Nope, that is actually not how that works. But, yeah, no, I think that’s an interesting way to think about it, because we started this episode and I was skeptical of why are you doing it this way? But now talking it through, I’m like, “oh, that does make sense.” It does. It takes away the excuses of, “I can’t do it” or “I don’t have what I need to do it.” And the answer is, “yeah, you do.” Christopher S. Penn – 24:04 Yep. Yeah, we do. These tools make it easier than ever to have a plan, because I know there are some people, and outside of my area’s expertise, I’m one of these people. I just want to be told what to do. Okay, you’re telling me to go bake some bread. I don’t know how to do that. Just tell me the steps to give me a recipe so I can follow it so I don’t screw it up and waste materials or waste time. Yeah. Now once I had, “okay, if I something I want to do,” then I do it. If it’s something I don’t want to do, then now I’m out of excuses. Katie Robbert – 24:40 I don’t know. I mean, for those of you listening, you couldn’t see the look on my face when Chris said, “I just want to be told what to do.” I was like, “since when?” Outside of. Christopher S. Penn – 24:50 “My area of expertise” is the key phrase there. Katie Robbert – 24:56 I sort of. I call that my alpha and beta brain. So, at work, I have the alpha brain where I’m in charge. I set the course, and I’m the one who does the telling. But then there are those instances, when I go volunteer at the shelter, I shut off my alpha brain, and I’m like, “just tell me what to do.” This is not my. I am just here to help to sandwich, too. So, I totally understand that. I’m mostly just picking on you because it’s fun. Christopher S. Penn – 25:21 And it’s Monday morning. Katie Robbert – 25:23 All right, sort of wrapping up. It sounds like there’s a really good use case for using Deep Research on the technology you already have. Here’s the thing. You may not have a specific problem right now, but it’s probably not the worst idea to take a look at your tech stack and do some Deep Research reports on all of your different tools. Be like, “what does this do?” “Here’s our overall sales and marketing goals, here’s our overall business goals, and here’s the technology we have.” “Does it match up? Is there a big gap?” “What are we missing?” That’s not a bad exercise to do, especially as you think about now that we’re past the halfway point of the year. People are already thinking about annual planning for 2026. That’s a good exercise to do. Christopher S. Penn – 26:12 It is. Maybe we should do that on a future live stream. Let’s audit, for example, our Modic marketing automation software. We use it. I know, for example, the campaign section with the little flow builder. We don’t use that at all. And I know there’s value in there. It’s that feature in HubSpot’s, an extra $800 a month. We have it for free in Modic, and we don’t use it. So, I think maybe some of us. Katie Robbert – 26:37 Have asked that it be used multiple times. Christopher S. Penn – 26:42 So now, let’s make a manual for a specific campaign using what we know to do that so we can do that on an upcoming live stream. Katie Robbert – 26:52 Okay. All right. If you’ve got some—I said okay, cool. Christopher S. Penn – 26:58 If you’ve got some use cases for Deep Research or for building manuals on demand that you have found work well for you, drop by our free slacker. Go to Trust Insights AI analytics for marketers, where you and over 4,000 other marketers are asking and answering each other’s questions every day about analytics, data science, and AI. 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In this episode, the hosts break down an overpriced, confusingly diversified urgent care and med spa hybrid in Orange County, exploring why it's unlikely to trade at the asking price.Business Listing – https://www.bizbuysell.com/Business-Opportunity/urgent-care-for-kids-and-adults-full-service-plus-med-spa-3405-sqft/2323118/Welcome to Acquisitions Anonymous – the #1 podcast for small business M&A. Every week, we break down businesses for sale and talk about buying, operating, and growing them.Sponsors:This episode is sponsored by OpenPhone — the modern phone system built for founders and operators. OpenPhone lets you create dedicated business numbers that work right from your existing phone or desktop. You get features like auto-replies, shared inboxes, call recording, integrations with tools like Slack and HubSpot—and best of all, you look way more professional.We use OpenPhone here at Acquisitions Anonymous. It keeps our personal lives separate, our teams in sync, and our deals moving fast.Head to https://www.openphone.com/aapod for more info.Verivend – Simplify your capital calls and LP payments with Verivend's frictionless, secure platform. No more wires, no more hassle. Learn more at https://www.verivend.comThe hosts dive into a peculiar $8M listing for a hybrid urgent care and med spa based in South Orange County, California. Pulling in $3.5M in gross revenue with $1.5M in seller's discretionary earnings, the business claims to offer everything from urgent care and COVID testingKey Highlights:- $3.5M revenue, $1.5M SDE, asking $8M (5x+ multiple)- Located in affluent South Orange County, CA- Services range from urgent care to med spa and STD testing- Owner is “very semi-absentee” and willing to stay on- Hosts question valuation, mixed identity, and transaction viabilitySubscribe to weekly our Newsletter and get curated deals in your inboxAdvertise with us by clicking here Do you love Acquanon and want to see our smiling faces? Subscribe to our Youtube channel. Do you enjoy our content? Rate our show! Follow us on Twitter @acquanon Learnings about small business acquisitions and operations. For inquiries or suggestions, email us at contact@acquanon.com

If you or someone you know is building something powerful with AI, and wants $50,000 to make it, now's the time to submit your pitch for The Next Big AIdea, an AI pitch competition hosted by HubSpot Media and HubSpot for Startups. Submit your pitch here: https://www.hubspot.com/startups/ai-pitch-comp Americans are still buying expensive beef despite record prices while fake meat companies crash and burn. This beef inflation could be an opportunity for fake meat to take the edge, but it turns out that when your plant-based burger costs 82% more than real beef, even a cattle shortage can't save you. Plus: Alaska Airlines experiences an IT outage and a Fintech company is looking for a pro redditor. Join our hosts Jon Weigell and Mark Dent as they take you through our most interesting stories of the day. Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thehustle.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehustledaily/ Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit subscribe or follow us on your favorite podcast player, so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/  If you are a fan of the show be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review, and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues.

Matt Benelli sat down with Mark Roberge last year, former CRO at HubSpot, Harvard Business School professor, and co-founder of Stage 2 Capital, to challenge some of the most persistent myths in sales leadership. From debunking the idea that top reps make the best managers to exposing why shadowing high performers can actually backfire, this conversation delivers a candid look at why most coaching programs fail to scale and what to do instead.Mark lays out a structured, repeatable approach to frontline coaching that not only boosts individual rep performance but transforms how entire sales organizations operate. He shares why focusing on team attainment is less useful than tracking the percentage of reps hitting quota, how managers can move from reactive fire drills to proactive coaching cycles, and why self-diagnosis is the new sales superpower. If you're a sales leader still stuck on the hamster wheel, this episode offers a way off.Key Takeaways1. Top reps don't make the best managersThe traits that drive individual quota success, such as assertiveness or autonomy, often conflict with the empathy and patience required to coach others effectively.2. Shadowing high performers is not an onboarding strategyNew reps pick up bad habits and unteachable skills when learning only by imitation; structured onboarding with a defined process is more effective.3. Coaching can (and must) scale.A consistent, top-down cadence of rep-by-rep skill diagnosis, action planning, and metric tracking creates scalable coaching across large sales orgs.4. Reps rarely know why they're underperformingWithout data, reps and managers often misdiagnose performance gaps; combining call data and funnel metrics helps uncover the true root causes.5. Managers must move from reactive to proactiveTime-blocked 1:1s tied to skill development, not just deal triage shift coaching from “fire drills” to intentional growth plans.6. Quota attainment by rep is the real health metric.Overall team attainment hides unhealthy reliance on a few stars; the percentage of reps hitting quota shows true team performance and scalability.

EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of The ChatGPT Experiment, host Cary Weston brings back Greg Howe, founder of Gimme Info, for a deep dive into how small businesses and solopreneurs can use AI and automation to reclaim their time. Greg specializes in helping non-technical professionals streamline daily operations using tools like Make.com, ChatGPT, and Gmail. Together, they unpack real-world use cases—like email triage, customer sentiment tracking, and task automation—and show how simple automation can free up your day for higher-value work. 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS Email Management Can Be Smarter: Greg explains how tools like Make.com can read emails, assess their tone with ChatGPT, and sort them into Gmail folders—automatically separating value from noise. Automation Starts With Understanding Your Process: Before plugging in AI, record your workflow (using tools like Loom or Scribe) to map out your steps. This becomes the foundation for training AI to help you. Use AI Strategically, Not Just Technically: ChatGPT isn't just a chatbot—it can serve as a thought partner, strategist, and even a SOP (standard operating procedure) generator if you feed it the right context. ABOUT GREG HOWE Greg Howe is the founder of Gimme Info, a consultancy focused on making data and automation accessible to small businesses and solopreneurs. He specializes in integrating AI tools like ChatGPT with platforms people already use—like Gmail, Slack, and HubSpot—to create custom automations that save time and maintain human connection. Greg also runs the AI Automation Launch Pad, a free community where he shares templates and workflows to help people build smarter systems. Find Greg on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/gimmeinfo. Cary offers customized one-on-one ChatGPT training in 60 minute sessions. Find out more information on the sessions, answers to frequent questions, and how to register at www.ChatGPTExperiment.com +++++++++ CONNECT WITH CARY ChatGPT Podcast Website: www.ChatGPTExperiment.com Marketing Podcast: www.PracticalMarketingShow.com Cary's Agency Website: www.CMWeston.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caryweston LINKEDIN NEWSLETTER The Chat GPT Experiment is also a LinkedIn Newsletter and you can find it here: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/the-chat-gpt-experiment-7110348839919702016/ MUSIC CREDITS The instrumental music used in this podcast is called “Curious” by Podington Bear.

What if you could charge more without changing a single feature of your product or service? In this powerful rerun episode, I'm bringing back one of my favorite interviews with Bob Britton, a marketing expert who has helped thousands of entrepreneurs elevate their value, boost conversions, and command higher prices. If you've ever felt stuck competing on price, this episode is for you.Meet Bob BrittonBob Britton is a business growth strategist with a long track record of turning small businesses into seven-figure machines. He's not just theory, Bob built and sold multiple companies using the same strategies he teaches today. One of the big secrets behind his success?Understanding perceived value. According to Bob, the way you frame and present your offer can make the difference between being seen as a commodity and being seen as a premium solution.It's Not About Price, It's About ValueIn this episode, Bob breaks down how to make your offer feel more valuable—without actually changing what you sell. It's all about presentation, psychology, and messaging.Simplify the decisionWhen prospects are confused, they don't buy. Bob explains how to structure your offer so it feels easy and obvious to say yes.Stack the valuePeople don't buy features, they buy outcomes. Learn how to package and position your benefits so they stand out.Anchor your priceIf you're not using strategic price anchoring, you're leaving money on the table. Bob shares his favorite ways to do this without feeling manipulative.Add scarcity and urgencyA great offer is only as strong as the reason to act now. Discover the exact language Bob uses to ethically drive urgency."People will pay more when they believe your offer solves a meaningful problem, better than anything else." – Bob BrittonResourcesWant to dive deeper into pricing and packaging? Join my Sales Mastermind Class. If you're working on messaging or need to create a premium offer, check out Blue Mango Studios. Follow me on LinkedIn for daily sales insights and strategies. Visit thesalesevangelist.com for more episodes and tools to help you sell more effectivelySponsorship OffersThis episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.CreditsAs one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey

If you or someone you know is building something powerful with AI, and wants $50,000 to make it, now's the time to submit your pitch for The Next Big AIdea, an AI pitch competition hosted by HubSpot Media and HubSpot for Startups. Submit your pitch here: https://www.hubspot.com/startups/ai-pitch-comp Today's chat reveals how Zohran Mamdani's campaign cracked the code of modern political psychology by embracing vulnerability, leading with policy over aesthetics, and masterfully triggering psychological reactance against establishment dismissal. Phill Agnew from Nudge podcast joins us to discuss the attention economy, authenticity and psychological factors that made the Mamdani campaign win out. Plus: Superman soars at the box office and Snoop Dogg cashes in on soccer. Join our host Jon Weigell as he takes you through our most interesting stories of the day. Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thehustle.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehustledaily/ Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit subscribe or follow us on your favorite podcast player, so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/  If you are a fan of the show be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review, and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues.Wanna start a side hustle but need an idea? Check out our Side Hustle Ideas Database: https://clickhubspot.com/thds Today's chat reveals how Zohran Mamdani's campaign cracked the code of modern political psychology by embracing vulnerability, leading with policy over aesthetics, and masterfully triggering psychological reactance against establishment dismissal. Phill Agnew from Nudge podcast joins us to discuss the attention economy, authenticity and psychological factors that made the Mamdani campaign win out. Plus: Superman soars at the box office and Snoop Dogg cashes in on soccer. Join our host Jon Weigell as he takes you through our most interesting stories of the day. Follow us on social media: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thehustle.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehustledaily/ Thank You For Listening to The Hustle Daily Show. Don't forget to hit subscribe or follow us on your favorite podcast player, so you never miss an episode! If you want this news delivered to your inbox, join millions of others and sign up for The Hustle Daily newsletter, here: https://thehustle.co/email/  If you are a fan of the show be sure to leave us a 5-Star Review, and share your favorite episodes with your friends, clients, and colleagues.

Building software today? Easy. But standing out in a saturated SaaS market—with 40,000+ new apps launching each year—is a whole different game.In this can't-miss episode, Godard Abel—Co-Founder and CEO of G2—breaks down exactly how G2 thrives amidst the AI explosion shaking up the B2B software industry. With 50 new AI software categories emerging in the past year alone, discover how the industry's top platform stays ahead.Tune in to uncover:How G2 navigates an app marketplace flooded by AI startups (and how you can, too).The surprising shifts in buyer behavior that are transforming B2B sales.G2's unique strategy for embedding their platform into leading AI tools like ChatGPT and Microsoft Copilot.Practical tactics for positioning your software as the go-to choice in an overcrowded market.Why brands leveraging authentic, human-driven content dominate AI-powered discovery platforms."AI won't replace humans, but humans with AI will replace humans without AI," Godard warns. If you're serious about staying ahead in sales, marketing, or RevOps, this conversation will equip you with actionable strategies you can use right now.About Godard Abel:Godard has built and sold three software companies. His first two exits—BigMachines and SteelBrick—went to Oracle and Salesforce for a combined $760 million. Now he's running G2, which became the world's largest software marketplace and trains the AI tools your prospects use to research vendors.About the Show:What does it really take to grow a B2B business today? We ask the people doing it.The Belkins Podcast dives deep into the strategies, decisions, and behind-the-scenes insights driving real growth at top B2B companies. Each episode features candid conversations with industry heavyweights—CROs, CMOs, founders, and seasoned operators—who've navigated market downturns, scaled teams, and mastered the realities of revenue growth.You'll hear hard truths, unfiltered insights, and actionable tactics directly from leaders who've actually done the work.Chapters:00:00 - Introducing Godard Abel02:30 - Why Building Software is Easy But B2B Marketing is 10x Harder in 202504:14- 40,000 New Apps Launched on G2 in One Year: Software Market Saturation05:42 - Should Your SaaS Company Pivot to AI or Add AI Features?09:01- Multi-Product Strategy: How to Compete in Multiple Software Categories16:13- HubSpot's API Integration Strategy: How to Build on Existing Platforms19:54- AI Categories See 100% Traffic Growth While Traditional SaaS Declines23:29- Personal Branding vs Corporate Marketing: Why CEO Posts Get 10x More Engagement39:16 - How to Rank in ChatGPT and Claude: Building Authority for AI Training Data (Tips for writers)48:13- How G2 Competes with ChatGPT: Partnership Strategy vs Fighting AI Search53:49 - AI Buying Agents: The Future of B2B Software Purchasing (G2AI Demo)01:15:01- From Single-Function BDRs to Full-Stack Revenue Professionals01:17:24 - From Hiring More to Revenue Per Employee: The New Growth Metric01:23:01 - Thanks for watching!

What do you do when no one believes in your vision? When every door seems closed and you keep hearing the word “no”? In this powerful rerun episode, I sat down with my good friend Alex Quin to talk about rejection, resilience, and what it really takes to build something meaningful when the odds are stacked against you.Meet Alex QuinAlex Quin is the CEO of UADV, a full-stack marketing agency, and the host of the Hustle Inspires Hustle podcast. He's built a name for himself in the world of marketing and branding, working with top global brands like McLaren, Red Bull, and Puma. But his journey wasn't easy. Alex didn't start with connections or capital. He built his business from the ground up, and at every stage, people told him it wouldn't work. They told him “no” but he didn't stop.The Power of RejectionIn this conversation, Alex shares how rejection shaped his growth and why hearing “no” was one of the best things that ever happened to him. We talked about mindset, perseverance, and how to build momentum even when no one's clapping for you yet.Create your own laneYou don't need permission to start. Alex breaks down how he carved out his own path in marketing when the industry gatekeepers ignored him.Let the "no" fuel youEvery time someone doubts you, it adds fuel to your fire. Use rejection as a signal that you're on the right track, especially when you're building something new or unconventional.Focus on value, not validationWhen you stop chasing approval and start solving real problems, the right people start paying attention.Stay true to your voiceDon't let “no” change your identity. You're not for everyone, and that's okay. The people you're meant to serve will get it."Rejection isn't the end. It's just feedback that you're breaking into something new." –Alex QuinResourcesListen to Alex's podcast Hustle Inspires Hustle for more mindset and brand-building tips Connect with Alex Quin on Instagram or LinkedIn to learn from his journey Need help developing your brand or message? Join my Sales Mastermind Class Looking to launch your podcast? Check out Blue Mango StudiosSponsorship OffersThis episode is brought to you in part by Hubspot.With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales.2. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.3. This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation.Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course. Go to the salesevangelist.com/linkedin.CreditsAs one of our podcast listeners, we value your opinion and always want to improve the quality of our show. Complete our two-minute survey here: thesalesevangelist.com/survey

Get ready for this special episode that you needed to hear years ago. Let me say this plainly: Working for someone else is the riskiest thing you can do right now. For decades, we believed that a "good job" was the ultimate security. A steady paycheck. Healthcare. Maybe a 401(k) with a match. But that model is falling apart in real time. I've seen this from the inside. I've been the employee. I've been the boss. I've been the guy who signed the layoff papers. When I was at Penton we went through three rounds of layoffs in 18 months and it was devastating for everyone involved. And this continues today but at breakneck speed. Here's the truth: no job is safe anymore...especially in marketing. AI is replacing entry-level marketers faster than we can track. Some agencies I know are in desperation mode. The only advice brand marketing teams get is to lean more into AI. Is that even the right strategy? And executive teams still don't understand what content actually does...until they decide it's too expensive (even thought it's not) and cut it. Here's the harsh truth: Most people following the “good job, good life” blueprint are broke, stressed, unfulfilled, and trapped. The old dream isn't dead because people stopped working hard. It's dead because the game changed and nobody updated the playbook. ----- This week's links: Dallas Cowboys NOT America's Team Joe Pulizzi's New Book "Burn the Playbook" Pre-Order ----- This week's sponsor: You don't become the world's most valuable women's sports franchise by accident. Angel City Football Club did it with a little help from HubSpot. When they started, data was housed across multiple systems. HubSpot unified their website, email marketing, and fan experience in one platform. This allowed their small team of three to build an entire website in just three days. The results? Nearly 350 new sign-ups a week and 300% database growth in just two years. Visit https://www.hubspot.com/ to hear how HubSpot can help you grow better. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Seventh Bear.

In this Power Producers Podcast episode, David Carothers delves into the power of content marketing and strategic lead generation. Sharing insights from his own journey, David emphasizes how building a strong, sustainable pipeline can ensure long-term success in sales, especially in industries like trucking and pressure washing. This episode focuses on how to use ChatGPT for deep research, the value of content marketing, and how it can be leveraged to generate inbound leads, close deals faster, and build authority in niche industries. David also discusses the importance of narrowing your focus and identifying trends in your industry to stand out from the competition. Using the example of pressure washing businesses, he explains how leveraging blog content, strategic SEO, and utilizing tools like HubSpot can drastically improve lead quality and business growth. Key Highlights: Building a Sustainable Lead System David stresses the importance of creating a critical mass in your lead system to avoid constantly starting over. He explains how doing it right the first time—by diving deep into your niche—ensures long-term success. The Power of Content Marketing David challenges the narrative that content marketing is "dead" and discusses how businesses can leverage SEO-friendly blog content to drive inbound leads and establish trust with potential clients. Using ChatGPT for Deep Industry Research David shares how using ChatGPT for research has helped him understand industries like pressure washing, leading to the creation of targeted content that attracts high-intent leads. Inbound Leads and High Buyer Intent By sharing the success story of pressure washing businesses, David explains how content-driven inbound leads result in higher buyer intent, making them easier to close without the need for aggressive outbound marketing. Scaling with Niche Markets David talks about scaling your agency or business by focusing on niche markets like pressure washing, landscape services, and pool cleaning, which can generate a steady stream of clients without heavy outbound prospecting. SEO Strategies and Lead Generation David outlines how creating SEO-optimized blog content can improve search rankings and drive inbound leads. He emphasizes the importance of clear, simple titles and strategic keyword use to increase visibility. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes

Chris Brisson is the CEO and co-founder of Salesmsg, a conversational two-way texting platform that enables businesses to engage with their customers through opt-in SMS. When his first software company stalled, he shut it down and developed the Salesmsg product for a different SMS use case that served his previous customers.  Salesmsg now provides secure SMS texting across all departments in the company, integrated directly with Hubspot CRM. It includes voice calling, sophisticated SMS automation, opt-in management, analytics, and deep CRM integration.  Salesmsg has grown rapidly, exceeding $10 million in revenue with 65 employees, leveraging its deep integration with HubSpot and promoting through agency and affiliate partners. The company is independent and has no outside investors. Quote from Chris Brisson, the CEO and founder of Salesmsg “In 2015, I wrote this post to our email list of 36,000 called The Death of Call Loop. I shared the story of how I created a business I secretly despised. We were shackled and couldn't innovate. I wanted to create a better company and reinvent the business from the ground up. My second chance startup became Salesmsg.  “When you start a company and it stalls, at what point do you say It's not the horse to ride? I've been there. At what point do you say, Enough is enough? Because you're only going to get older.  “I've always gone after solving problems, but some problems were worthy of the adventure, others not so much. Make sure you're choosing the right opportunity because it will take seven years of your life. And you can pivot along the way, but man, you want to find out early if it's worthy of the adventure.” Links Chris Brisson on LinkedIn Salesmsg on LinkedIn Salesmsg website The Practical Founders Podcast Tune into the Practical Founders Podcast for weekly in-depth interviews with founders who have built valuable software companies without big funding. Subscribe to the Practical Founders Podcast using your favorite podcast app or view on our YouTube channel. Get the weekly Practical Founders newsletter and podcast updates at practicalfounders.com.

Have you ever felt like a fraud or doubted your accomplishments? In this episode, Kevin welcomes Aoife O'Brien to discuss the often-misunderstood phenomenon of imposter syndrome. Aoife shares research that led her to identify five distinct imposter identities: The Overachiever, The Comparer, The People Pleaser, The Procrastinator, and The Success Fearer, and explains how these behaviors show up and affect individuals and teams. They also talk about how common imposter syndrome is in the workplace, how it can hurt performance and confidence, and how leaders can recognize and support team members who might be struggling. Aoife also introduces her simple ABCDE framework as a practical tool for overcoming imposter thoughts. Listen For 00:00 Intro to Imposter Syndrome 00:30 Welcome to the Remarkable Leadership Podcast 01:25 Kevin introduces his book “Flexible Leadership” 02:10 Introducing Aoife O'Brien 03:00 Aoife's professional journey and inspiration 05:00 Organizational culture and work fulfillment 06:00 Connecting imposter syndrome to workplace happiness 07:00 Aoife's personal imposter syndrome story 08:30 Being featured in a national newspaper 10:00 Defining imposter syndrome 12:00 The impact on individuals and teams 13:00 Imposter syndrome vs. confidence 14:00 How widespread is imposter syndrome? 15:30 Common triggers and barriers 17:00 What leaders can look for in team behavior 18:40 Examples of behavior linked to imposter syndrome 20:00 Real-world feedback from the audience 21:20 Aoife's 5 Imposter Identities 23:15 The Overachiever 23:45 The Comparer 25:20 The People Pleaser 26:15 The Procrastinator 28:00 The Success Feeler 30:00 Aoife's ABCDE Framework 31:00 Acknowledge 31:40 Build Belief 32:30 Courageous Action 33:30 Do It Anyway 34:00 Everyday Practice 35:00 What Aoife does for fun 35:50 What Aoife is reading 36:30 Where to find Aoife online 38:00 Kevin's “Now What?” challenge to listeners Aiofe's Story: Aoife O'Brien founded Happier at Work in 2019 because she witnessed firsthand the impact of poor workplace culture on both organizations and employees. Using her research-based Happier at Work framework, she partners with Global Talent & HR Leaders to cultivate human-centered workplace cultures that prioritize wellbeing, career growth, and meaningful impact. She supports employees to build their confidence, gain career clarity and reach their full potential, while driving increased engagement and retention in organizations. Her clients hire her to speak, train and deliver corporate programs. She has worked with global organizations like Meta, MSD, Ciena, AbbVie, Logitech, and HubSpot. Her award-winning podcast, Happier at Work®, has a global audience of over 125k. This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader's guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos.  Book Recommendations The Happiness Trap (Second Edition): How to Stop Struggling and Start Living by Russ Harris  Flexible Leadership: Navigate Uncertainty and Lead with Confidence by Kevin Eikenberry Like this? Love Your Imposter with Rita Clifton Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group   Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we'd be thrilled if you'd let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here's a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes    Podcast Better! Sign up with Libsyn and get up to 2 months free! Use promo code: RLP