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The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Chuck Joiner, Jeff Gamet, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius, Guy Serle. Apple scores a major legal win for the Apple Watch, Vision Pro gets a gaming boost with NVIDIA, and the MacBook Neo continues to impress the panel. Plus, iOS 26.4 improves Family Sharing, AirPods Max 2 arrives, and Final Cut Pro gets a major upgrade with Apple's Motion VFX acquisition. The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com  Direct Link to Audio  Links to our Show Give us a review on Apple Podcasts! CLICK HERE we would really appreciate it! Click this link Buy me a Coffee to support the show we would really appreciate it. intouchwithios.com/coffee  Another way to support the show is to become a Patreon member patreon.com/intouchwithios Website: In Touch With iOS YouTube Channel In Touch with iOS Magazine on Flipboard Facebook Page BlueSky Mastodon X Instagram Threads Summary In episode 413, David Ginsburg is joined by Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Guy Serle, Marty Jencius, Jill McKinley, and Eric Bolden for a packed discussion across Apple's ecosystem. The show kicks off with breaking news: Apple secures a favorable ruling in the ongoing Apple Watch blood oxygen dispute. The panel explores what this means for current and future Apple Watch users, including the workaround using the iPhone and whether full functionality could return. Vision Pro takes a major step forward with NVIDIA GeForce NOW support, enabling higher frame rates and improved gaming experiences. The panel discusses how this positions Vision Pro as a more serious gaming and computing platform. iOS 26.4 brings a long-awaited improvement to Family Sharing, finally allowing individual payment methods—something users have wanted for years. Meanwhile, tvOS gets subtle but useful discovery improvements. A standout segment focuses on the MacBook Neo, with strong early impressions. The panel highlights its surprising performance in real-world use, including Final Cut Pro workflows, multitasking, and even running Windows via Parallels. A new companion podcast—the Neo Notebook—is also announced. Apple also releases AirPods Max 2, featuring the H2 chip, improved ANC, and better audio performance, though at a higher price point. The discussion explores whether the upgrade is compelling enough. The episode wraps with excitement for MacStock 2026 and continued community engagement. Topics and Links Breaking News ITC Judge Rules Apple Watch Blood Oxygen Workaround Does Not Infringe Masimo Patents In Touch With Vision Pro this week.  visionOS 26.4 Release Candidate Now Available for Apple Vision Pro visionOS 26.4 Beta 4 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation Apple Vision Pro gains smoother gameplay with Nvidia's top GeForce Now streaming plan Beta this week.  Apple Seeds iOS 26.4 and iPadOS 26.4 Release Candidates macOS Tahoe 26.4 RC Release Notes: 6 New Features Coming to Mac iOS 26.4 to finally let Family Sharing members use their own payment methods Apple Releases watchOS 26.4, tvOS 26.4 and visionOS 26.4 Release Candidates Here Are Apple's Release Notes for iOS 26.4 - MacRumors Apple Adds 'Genius Browse' Movie and TV Recommendations to Apple TV in tvOS 26.4 - MacRumors Apple Releases Background Security Improvement Update for macOS Tahoe 26.3.1, iOS 26.3.1, and iPadOS 26.3.1 Apple Urges iPhone Users Running Outdated iOS Versions to Update Immediately In Touch With Mac this week macOS Tahoe 26.4 Release Candidate Now Available - MacRumors New segment:  In Touch with Macbook Neo Despite hardware limits, Parallels supports running Windows on MacBook Neo  MacBook Neo runs Premiere Pro and almost 60 Chrome tabs without issues New vodcast The Neo Notebook starting Sunday March 23rd 9 PM EST  Other Topics Apple introduces AirPods Max 2 Apple announces AirPods Max 2 update with H2 chip, same price AirTag 2 vs AirTag: Here's everything new  Cool thing Spigen's New AirPods Pro 3 Case Is Modeled After the Original Macintosh Mouse Amazon link: https://amzn.to/40LmFF9 Rolling Square Wallet Tracker: https://amzn.to/4stzQqC News Perplexity Launches Comet AI Browser for iPhone With Built-In Assistant - MacRumors Apple's Head of Home Hardware Leaves for Smart Ring Maker Oura  Apple's First Lightning iPhone is Now Obsolete Apple buys Final Cut Pro plug-in partner, MotionVFX Announcements Macstock X is here celebrating its 10th anniversary ! Dave, Chuck, Jeff, Marty, and Jill are all speaking this year!. With Three Full Days of expert-led Presentations and Workshops, Macstock's sessions are crammed full of productivity-enhancing content. NEW this year is a partnership with sponsor Ecamm. Ecamm Creator Camp: Mac Edition on July 9, 2026 there are only 100 tickets available for the bundle. There are 2 passes available: Macstock weekend pass July 10,11,12, 2026 or the Macstock Ecamm Bundle starting July 9 (only 100 tickets available)  Come join us. Register HERE Its official! Dave is speaking for a 10th consecutive year!! Our Host Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https://youtube.com/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65  and the show @intouchwithios   Our Regular Contributors Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer's managing editor, and Smile's TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @jgamet@pixelfed.social and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social‬ Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast  Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https://youtube.com/jgamet Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at jencius@mastodon.social  https://thepodtalk.net  Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at eabolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.   Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts—Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern. Find all her work at http://jillfromthenorthwoods.com  Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group. Guy Serle is one of the hosts of the new The Gmen Show along with GazMaz and email GMenshow@icloud.com  @MacParrot and @VertShark on X  Vertshark on YouTube, Google Voice +1 Area code  703-828-4677

Sun, 01 Feb 2026 16:00:00 GMT http://relay.fm/mpu/834 http://relay.fm/mpu/834 I Am The Tardis 834 David Sparks and Stephen Hackett Stephen starts the episode with an announcement, then he and David revisit writing workflows, Keyboard Maestro, notifications, and more. At the end, the guys attempt to answer some questions as quickly as possible... something they aren't great at doing. Stephen starts the episode with an announcement, then he and David revisit writing workflows, Keyboard Maestro, notifications, and more. At the end, the guys attempt to answer some questions as quickly as possible... something they aren't great at doing. clean 4384 Stephen starts the episode with an announcement, then he and David revisit writing workflows, Keyboard Maestro, notifications, and more. At the end, the guys attempt to answer some questions as quickly as possible... something they aren't great at doing. This episode of Mac Power Users is sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code MPU. Ecamm: Powerful live streaming platform for Mac. Links and Show Notes: Sign up for the MPU email newsletter and join the MPU forums. You can watch the podcast over on YouTube. More Power Users: Ad-free episodes with regular bonus segments Submit Feedback Mac Power Users #833: Chris Bailey and His Battle-Scarred M1 - Relay Stephen Robles - YouTube Obsidian NotePlan - Tasks, Notes, and Calendar Mac Power Users #756: Exploring NotePlan with David Roth - Relay Mac Power Users #828: Revisiting Keyboard Maestro - Relay Apple event - Wikipedia Conflict Palette [Keyboard Maestro Wiki] Keyboard Maestro episode on MPU - Dr. Drang Fixing TextExpander prefixes - All this Claude Google Gemini ChatGPT Moltbot (Formerly Clawdbot) Showed Me What the Future of Personal AI Assistants Looks Like - MacStories Manage your apps with Sign in with Apple - Apple Support Use 1Password to sign in to sites with supported providers | 1Password Support Pixelmator Pro - Apple Michael Tsai - Blog - Bartender Acquired by Applause Group Bartender 6 Ice - Menu Bar Manager Ice 0.11.13-dev.2f-unofficial · jordanbaird/Ice Getting Started with Cowork | Claude Help Center Things - To-Do List App for Mac & iOS

Sun, 01 Feb 2026 16:00:00 GMT http://relay.fm/mpu/834 http://relay.fm/mpu/834 David Sparks and Stephen Hackett Stephen starts the episode with an announcement, then he and David revisit writing workflows, Keyboard Maestro, notifications, and more. At the end, the guys attempt to answer some questions as quickly as possible... something they aren't great at doing. Stephen starts the episode with an announcement, then he and David revisit writing workflows, Keyboard Maestro, notifications, and more. At the end, the guys attempt to answer some questions as quickly as possible... something they aren't great at doing. clean 4384 Stephen starts the episode with an announcement, then he and David revisit writing workflows, Keyboard Maestro, notifications, and more. At the end, the guys attempt to answer some questions as quickly as possible... something they aren't great at doing. This episode of Mac Power Users is sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code MPU. Ecamm: Powerful live streaming platform for Mac. Links and Show Notes: Sign up for the MPU email newsletter and join the MPU forums. You can watch the podcast over on YouTube. More Power Users: Ad-free episodes with regular bonus segments Submit Feedback Mac Power Users #833: Chris Bailey and His Battle-Scarred M1 - Relay Stephen Robles - YouTube Obsidian NotePlan - Tasks, Notes, and Calendar Mac Power Users #756: Exploring NotePlan with David Roth - Relay Mac Power Users #828: Revisiting Keyboard Maestro - Relay Apple event - Wikipedia Conflict Palette [Keyboard Maestro Wiki] Keyboard Maestro episode on MPU - Dr. Drang Fixing TextExpander prefixes - All this Claude Google Gemini ChatGPT Moltbot (Formerly Clawdbot) Showed Me What the Future of Personal AI Assistants Looks Like - MacStories Manage your apps with Sign in with Apple - Apple Support Use 1Password to sign in to sites with supported providers | 1Password Support Pixelmator Pro - Apple Michael Tsai - Blog - Bartender Acquired by Applause Group Bartender 6 Ice - Menu Bar Manager Ice 0.11.13-dev.2f-unofficial · jordanbaird/Ice Getting Started with Cowork | Claude Help Center Things - To-Do List App for Mac & iOS

nOversight is a Wi-Fi analysis app from Numerous Networks for iOS and Mac iOS that helps both end users and professionals do a better job of understanding how their Wi-Fi is running and how it’s working on their individual devices. Today we talk to Ben Toner, the creator of nOversight to give us the details... Read more »

nOversight is a Wi-Fi analysis app from Numerous Networks for iOS and Mac iOS that helps both end users and professionals do a better job of understanding how their Wi-Fi is running and how it’s working on their individual devices. Today we talk to Ben Toner, the creator of nOversight to give us the details... Read more »

macOS 15.2, also known as macOS Sequoia 15.2, focuses on enhancing user experience and productivity through new features and improvements across various apps. And lots of other buzz words meant to confuse you long enough to not see what's missing or the bits that don't work exactly as planned. Also deipnosophist is a word that best describes Guy and stay tuned for the...Hat of Intelligence

Apple is finishing October with a bang. Monday brought the official release of Apple Intelligence with iOS 18.1 and also for iPads and Macs. Apple also announced a new iMac with an M4 processor on Monday. Tuesday brought the new, smaller, redesigned Mac Mini with M4. What will Wednesday bring? Good chance of MacBook Pros. Plus, there's other tech news to catch up on and some tips and picks to help you tech better! Watch on YouTube! INTRO (00:00) Vote (04:10) MAIN TOPIC: Trick or Treat? Apple Intelligence and new Macs (06:50) Apple Intelligence is available today on iPhone, iPad, and Mac iOS 18.2 with new Apple Intelligence features coming in December, Apple confirms Apple updates the iMac with new colors and an M4 chip Apple announces redesigned Mac Mini with M4 chip DAVE'S PRO-TIP OF THE WEEK: Select the camera type by long long-holding camera icon in the Control Center (22:20) JUST THE HEADLINES: (27:30) Britain to axe up to 1.5m lampposts Researchers say an AI-powered transcription tool used in hospitals invents things no one ever said NASA reveals prototype telescope for gravitational wave observatory San Francisco's Muni's rail system will spend $212 million to upgrade from floppy disks Hacker returns $19.3 million to drained US government crypto wallet DTrace for Linux comes to Gentoo TAKES McDonald's restaurants finally have a solution to their busted McFlurry machine problem (29:20) Astropad Launches 'Bookcase' for Turning an iPhone Into an E-Reader (31:30) Vimeo brings spatial video sharing to everyone with new Apple Vision Pro app (35:00) Astronauts return from nearly eight months on ISS after Starliner problems (36:45) Adobe made its painting app completely free to take on Procreate (38:00) BONUS ODD TAKE: Kasso - Bonkers Japanese Skateboarding Show (39:45) PICKS OF THE WEEK: Dave: Mic Cover Foam Microphone Windscreen, Condenser Microphone Size A, 1 Pack (41:05) Nate: SmallRig 51" Cell Phone Selfie Stick Tripod with Wireless Remote, Aluminum Portable Cellphone Tripod Freely 10 Meters Bluetooth Remote Control Tripod for iPhone 16 Pro Max/15/14 Pro/14/13, Samsung S22/ S23 Ultra/Android Smartphone via TikTok (43:20) RAMAZON PURCHASE - Giveaway! (50:25)

I think this is the first time I actually made Dave yell on the podcast and it was hilarious. That comes as I give one of my final updates on my quest for a perfect cup of coffee. Has someone every told you about a feature in an operating system that you had no idea even existed? Dave and I talk about discoverability on the Mac. We also take a look at some of the new features in iOS 18. Show Notes: Jura Z10 Diamond Black iOS 18: Replace or Remove Lock Screen Camera and Flashlight Icons iPadOS 18 adds a new tab bar US social security–Freeze your credit Shows and movies we're watching Homicide, Peacock Slow Horses, Apple TV+ Catch Me A Killer, BritBox

This week, I delved into whether to embrace or avoid new APIs in Apple's upcoming operating systems. I encountered a few challenges while working on my Mac iOS app, which I aimed to have a modern look. Inspired by Apple developer videos, I wanted to incorporate features like a navigation split view and fancy backgrounds, similar to the design of CleanMyMac.However, I hit a snag when they were in a part of the app's window. Even AI couldn't solve it. Finally, I found a solution in a video on the Apple developer portal, which involved using modifiers only available in macOS 15. Faced with a choice, I implemented conditional code to keep compatibility with macOS 14 while enabling new features for macOS 15 and beyond.Using conditional code, such as #if available(macOS 15, *), I can target specific OS versions and ensure my app remains functional across different versions without cutting off users. This technique can be applied to various scenarios, not just API availability, making it a versatile tool.Become a Patreon member and help this Podcast survivehttps://www.patreon.com/compileswiftPlease leave a review and show your supporthttps://lovethepodcast.com/compileswiftFollow me on Mastodonhttps://iosdev.space/@Compileswift Thanks to our monthly supporters bitSpectre Arclite ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/mpu/749 http://relay.fm/mpu/749 The Year of Apple Intelligence 749 David Sparks and Stephen Hackett WWDC24 brought updates across Apple's platforms and was used to announce the company's move into the AI era. David and Stephen hit the highlights of what's new. WWDC24 brought updates across Apple's platforms and was used to announce the company's move into the AI era. David and Stephen hit the highlights of what's new. clean 6736 Subtitle: Unpacking WWDC24WWDC24 brought updates across Apple's platforms and was used to announce the company's move into the AI era. David and Stephen hit the highlights of what's new. This episode of Mac Power Users is sponsored by: 1Password: Never forget a password again. Sanebox: Stop drowning in email! KRCS: Apple Premium Reseller. Get free next-working-day delivery. ExpressVPN: High-Speed, Secure & Anonymous VPN Service. Get an extra three months free. Links and Show Notes: Sign up for the MPU email newsletter and join the MPU forums. More Power Users: Ad-free episodes with regular bonus segments Submit Feedback Steve Jobs Says "Jump!" and Phil Schiller Does - YouTube macOS Sequoia: The MacStories Overview - MacStories macOS Sequoia's Default Wallpaper (Updated) – 512 Pixels macOS Sequoia's Macintosh Wallpapers – 512 Pixels The Meaning of the Term “Sherlocking” – 512 Pixels Mac Power Users #705: macOS Window Management - Relay FM Bezel - Show your iPhone on your Mac iOS and iPadOS 18: The MacStories Overview - MacStories Michael Tsai - Blog - Dark Mode iOS 18 App Icons NEW! iOS 18 iMessage via Satellite demo! - iJustine watchOS 11: The MacStories Overview - MacStories visionOS 2: The MacStories Overview - MacStories Apple Intelligence: The MacStories Overview - MacStories Hope Springs Eternal for Apple Intelligence - MacSparky Apple Details Its AI Foundation Models and Applebot Web Scraping - MacStories Siri's AI Era Arriving Soon – 512 Pixels Report: Apple isn't paying OpenAI for ChatGPT integration into OSes | Ars Technica WWDC24: Tim Cook, on AI and Apple's Values – 512 Pixels WWDC24: System Requirements for iOS 18, iPadOS 18, macOS Sequoia, Etc… – 512 Pixels Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud - Apple Security Research Matthew Green's Mastodon Thread on Private Cloud Compute

Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:30:00 GMT http://relay.fm/mpu/749 http://relay.fm/mpu/749 David Sparks and Stephen Hackett WWDC24 brought updates across Apple's platforms and was used to announce the company's move into the AI era. David and Stephen hit the highlights of what's new. WWDC24 brought updates across Apple's platforms and was used to announce the company's move into the AI era. David and Stephen hit the highlights of what's new. clean 6736 Subtitle: Unpacking WWDC24WWDC24 brought updates across Apple's platforms and was used to announce the company's move into the AI era. David and Stephen hit the highlights of what's new. This episode of Mac Power Users is sponsored by: 1Password: Never forget a password again. Sanebox: Stop drowning in email! KRCS: Apple Premium Reseller. Get free next-working-day delivery. ExpressVPN: High-Speed, Secure & Anonymous VPN Service. Get an extra three months free. Links and Show Notes: Sign up for the MPU email newsletter and join the MPU forums. More Power Users: Ad-free episodes with regular bonus segments Submit Feedback Steve Jobs Says "Jump!" and Phil Schiller Does - YouTube macOS Sequoia: The MacStories Overview - MacStories macOS Sequoia's Default Wallpaper (Updated) – 512 Pixels macOS Sequoia's Macintosh Wallpapers – 512 Pixels The Meaning of the Term “Sherlocking” – 512 Pixels Mac Power Users #705: macOS Window Management - Relay FM Bezel - Show your iPhone on your Mac iOS and iPadOS 18: The MacStories Overview - MacStories Michael Tsai - Blog - Dark Mode iOS 18 App Icons NEW! iOS 18 iMessage via Satellite demo! - iJustine watchOS 11: The MacStories Overview - MacStories visionOS 2: The MacStories Overview - MacStories Apple Intelligence: The MacStories Overview - MacStories Hope Springs Eternal for Apple Intelligence - MacSparky Apple Details Its AI Foundation Models and Applebot Web Scraping - MacStories Siri's AI Era Arriving Soon – 512 Pixels Report: Apple isn't paying OpenAI for ChatGPT integration into OSes | Ars Technica WWDC24: Tim Cook, on AI and Apple's Values – 512 Pixels WWDC24: System Requirements for iOS 18, iPadOS 18, macOS Sequoia, Etc… – 512 Pixels Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud - Apple Security Research Matthew Green's Mastodon Thread on Private Cloud Compute

From DuckDuckGo's innovative approach to secure synchronization of user data across devices, to Appdome's cutting-edge Geo Compliance suite aimed at combating location spoofing, and the alarming resurgence of the Bumblebee malware loader in a new phishing campaign, we explore the implications of these advancements and threats. Join us as we unpack the significance of end-to-end encryption, the fight against location-based fraud, and the continuous battle against sophisticated cyber threats. Discover how these developments impact our digital lives and what measures can be taken to enhance security in the digital realm. DuckDuckGo's Privacy Innovation: Learn about DuckDuckGo's end-to-end encrypted Sync & Backup feature, providing users with a secure way to synchronize their data across devices without compromising privacy. Read more. Appdome's Battle Against Location Spoofing: Dive into Appdome's Geo Compliance suite, offering mobile brands a robust solution to verify user locations and detect fraudulent activities to uphold the integrity of mobile commerce. Read more. The Return of Bumblebee: Uncover the details of Bumblebee's comeback in a sophisticated phishing campaign, posing significant threats to organizational security and how these developments signal a broader wave of cyber threats. Read more. Stay informed about the latest in cybersecurity and digital privacy with our in-depth analysis and discussions on the most pressing issues facing the digital world today. Thanks to Jered Jones for providing the music for this episode. https://www.jeredjones.com/ Transcript: [ 00:00:00] Good morning listeners today is February 15th, 2024. And you're listening to the daily decrypt. I've got a quick episode for you today. We're just going to touch on a three stories. One duck, duck go has some new updates, which we're pretty excited about. A company called app dome is re-inventing geo compliance for mobile security. And for the nerdier folk, the bumblebee is back. This is a new wave of cyber threats. So let's dive right in. [00:01:00] All right. So our first article comes from bleeping computer and it discusses duck. Duck goes introduction. Of an end to end encrypted sync and backup feature for their privacy centric browser. Dr. Goh has been a beacon for those seeking to protect their online activities from prying eyes. And it's known for its search engine that promises not to track users. Its latest update, introduces a sync and backup feature, which allows users to securely synchronize bookmarks passwords and email protection settings without the need for an account. Or by revealing any sensitive information to duck, duck go. We love this. This is a huge step towards separating your identity from what you do on the internet. So what sets this feature apart is its use of end-to-end encryption. And for those of you who aren't super savvy in the tech field, this means that. The data is encrypted in such a way that only the user can access it. Not even duck duck go can peek into the transferred information. This [00:02:00] ensures that personal data like passwords and bookmarks remain private and secure. Which is a significant step forward in preserving user privacy online. Duck duck go employs local encryption to store sensitive data on the user's device. And during synchronization between devices, this data remains encrypted. And because the decryption key is stored locally on your devices, your information is inaccessible to anyone, but you. Little caveat to that is. Your information is inaccessible to anyone, but you or anyone who has access to your devices. Make sure your devices are password protected. And go to sleep or lock after a reasonable amount of time. One minute might be too quick. Five minutes might be too quick, but. Get in the habit of locking your devices when you walk away from them. Another feature of this is the easy setup. Users can sync their data by scanning a QR code or entering a text code, bridging their digital life across windows, Mac iOS, iOS, and Android devices seamlessly. duck Duck go provides recovery codes in a PDF document, ensuring that [00:03:00] users can retrieve their data, even if their device is lost or stolen. We don't love QR codes overall, but if it's being provided by duck, duck, go. You should be pretty safe. Attackers will also have this information, so they might try to generate fake QR codes or fake PDFs, but I've never really seen syncing across devices without creating an account. So I'm pretty excited to give this a try if you're also excited to give this a try. The duck duck go browser is available for download on various platforms. Though the browser is still in beta. It's still very accessible. So go out there, give it a shot and let us know what you think on Twitter or Instagram. We'd love to hear from you. So up next, we're talking about a company. called app dome, which might be behind many of your apps already on your phone. They. Provide security features for apps across Android and iOS. This can mean security features such as end-to-end automation. [00:04:00] Mobile apps, security anti-fraud anti-malware anti-China antibody and geo compliance. Their sites are focused on the geo compliance part of that. they've come up with a groundbreaking feature set, which is designed to help mobile brands, verify user locations and detect fraudulent activities such as location spoofing. Or fake GPS, app usage, VPNs, and SIM swaps. These are common methods that are often employed to bypass geographical restrictions and mobile applications, which can pose a significant challenge to maintaining the integrity of mobile commerce and transaction data. This is great, but. I have to point out the irony of discussing this right after talking about not being tracked online. By duck, duck go. Geolocation is a tough thing to nail down. IP addresses are wildly inaccurate. And yeah, your location can be mapped using different apps. Like VPNs or. All kinds of other things. So this is huge for. Government regulation of data, [00:05:00] privacy, but might be bad news for protecting yourself and your privacy online. Tom Tovar, who is the CEO of abdom discusses? The struggle mobile brands face. In achieving true geo compliance. Traditional products in this space have suffered from a fragmented approach requiring complex software development, kit integrations, and a heavy lift from engineering teams. solution. A unified automated platform that integrates geo compliance with over 300 other mobile app defense features, streamlining the process and ensuring compatibility across the board. this next piece is drawing attention to recent activities of the notorious malware loader and initial access broker known as bumblebee. Bumblebee is back and its resurgence is marked by a sophisticated phishing campaign targeting us organizations with cleverly disguised. Voicemail themes, lures leading to malicious one drive URLs. So watch out for. Suspicious looking voicemails. And if you do [00:06:00] happen to click on one. it opens one drive. You know what to do. Proof point and enterprise security firm has traced these activities. Noting that the malicious URLs guide unsuspecting victims to a word document that impersonates the consumer electronics company humane. That's not very humane of them. These documents named in a deceptive manner like release Evans, hashtag 96 dot doc. Employ VBA macros to execute a chain of commands that eventually download and run the bumblebee loader. This development is particularly alarming considering Bumblebee's reputation for downloading and executing ransomware among other malicious payloads. bumblebee was first identified in March of 2022 and has been a tool for various crime where actors replacing older loaders, such as Basel loader. It's development is suspected to be under the wings of the Conti and trick bot cyber crime syndicates showcasing a continuous evolution in cyber crime tactics. Interestingly the return of bumblebee coincides with the [00:07:00] reappearance of malware variants, like crackpot, Xeloda, and Pika bot. Which is highlighting a broader wave of cyber threats. There's a lot of vulnerabilities that involve Microsoft office macros. So keep an eye out for. A office template you might download for free on the internet that when you open it, it prompts you to enable macros. It is going to try to convince you that you need to enable these macros to use this template. But I would advise against enabling macros since that pretty much gives. The word document. The ability to launch other programs to run code, to do anything that malware would need to do. Download a template. It asks you to enable macros, probably delete that template and look on a different site. Microsoft has also taken steps to disable macros in an unsecure way, but there's always ways around it. The article we're referencing also touches on a broader context with Malwarebytes uncovering phishing campaigns that mimic financial institutions. Tricking individuals into [00:08:00] downloading legitimate remote desktop software. Like any desk under false pretenses further enabling cyber criminals to exploit unsuspecting users. All right. So that's all we got for today, Thank you so much for listening. Give us a tweet if you like, what you've heard. We'd love to hear from you on Instagram. 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Just in case you were wondering, you definitely wear all the hats now. In today's modern at-home recording world, you're the voice, engineer, customer service department, and tech wizard of each session; and some of those hats can get pretty cumbersome. In this episode, Anne and Laya discuss what it takes to be a BOSS in the booth, and how to maximize your potential success with tools, tech, and processes that work. It's not enough to just have a great voice or be an excellent performer anymore, but being a #VOBOSS in your booth is achievable. Learn how in this episode, jam-packed with ideas from these savvy bosses… Transcript >> It's time to take your business to the next level, the BOSS level! These are the premiere Business Owner Strategies and Successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a BOSS, a VO BOSS! Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguzza. Anne: Hey everyone. Welcome to the VO BOSS podcast. I'm your host Anne Ganguzza along with my very special guest co-host BOSS Laya Hoffman. Hey Laya, how are you? Laya: I'm great. Anne. How are you? Anne: I'm doing good. It's been a hectic week in the booth here, which is a good thing. I'm very grateful about that, but hectic in terms of I had clients who are asking a lot of me. Laya: Oh yeah? Anne: Not just voicing. Laya: Aren't they always? Anne: Yeah. Not just voicing in the booth, but they wanted playback. They wanted to invite the client in. And so I thought it would be a good day to talk about how to be the BOSS in the booth and handle these, handle the tech, handle these situations when a lot is being requested of us these days. Laya: So much, you know. Gone are the days of just stepping into the studio and all you have to do is focus on your acting -- Anne: Remember that? Laya: -- the copy and what it feels like to deliver, you know, the message. Now you have to have all the hats on -- Anne: Yup. Laya: -- simultaneously while keeping your cool and still delivering an outstanding performance. And it is harder than we realize -- Anne: Oh my gosh -- Laya: -- especially when the going gets tough. Anne: Yeah. And shout-out, okay, before anything else, a big shout-out to all the studios out there -- Laya: Yes. Anne: -- and pre-pandemic too. Like I always appreciated studios and sometimes even more so now, you never realized what a luxury it is to walk into a studio and to be directed. Laya: Yes, I miss it. Anne: Right? It is a wonderful thing. And I think there's always a place for studios, but during the pandemic, when we had to kind of up our game and get our tech in place and be able to engineer and do all that, oh, that was tough. So thank you to all of those studios. Some of my favorite studios shut down, and it's so sad, and I hope that they, you know, we're now coming back to a different place. I'm so glad when I see people in studios, and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm so happy to be back in studio, seeing people, so. Laya: Well, and it's true because even the engineers -- Anne: Yeah. Laya: -- like I have great respect for these engineers and the sound designers that are manning the board and the client in one ear. Anne: Yup. Laya: And they've got another client patched in from somewhere else. And they have really been the lead for all these years -- Anne: Oh yeah. Laya: -- to really help craft a comfortable setting for -- Anne: Yeah. Laya: -- so many of us that are dealing with our own insecurities or -- Anne: Sure. Laya: -- our own demands or our own needs that are happening on every angle of the table or the studio. And so I have a whole new respect having really had to shift that in house, but now it's, you know, it's a new skill learned, and I really haven't seen anywhere where you can learn the art of how to be your own BOSS in the booth -- Anne: Right? Laya: -- so this should be an interesting conversation. Anne: Well, I think, first of all, you have to educate yourself on some of these technologies that are -- Laya: Yep. Anne: -- that may be required of you. So number one, first of all, you've got to connect to a studio if you're doing a live direct, right? Or you have to be able to connect a client to be able to hear you. And so -- Laya: Yeah, your studio, right? Anne: Yeah. There are a lot of ways to do that. I know that prior to the pandemic, we were doing, a lot of people were doing stuff via Skype, and then Zoom kind of became a thing. I've had people connect via Zoom. Laya: Yeah. Anne: And I'm going to give a shout-out to, you know, our sponsor ipDTL, because I've always been able to connect other people to me via ipDTL and a very easy -- Laya: Yeah, flawlessly. Anne: Flawlessly, seamlessly, in a wonderful -- and the cool thing is, is that I even have a phone number, like my ipDTL, somebody can call a phone number and connect up with me via ipDTL. So on the other end, if you've got a client who's not technical -- Laya: Yep. Anne: -- at the very least, just give them a phone number and they can connect. Laya: Always. Anne: Now -- Laya: That's awesome. I didn't realize that about them. Good share, for sure. Anne: Yeah. Laya: For sure. Anne: But even before that, if you want to get even more elementary, right -- Laya: Of course. Anne: -- I used to have people connect to me in the studio by having my phone and earbuds. And so I'd have them call my cell phone, put my earbuds in my ear, and then my headphones over, right, my ears. Laya: Oh wow. Anne: And they would be in my ear. And it was like before you had to do a complicated -- there were people that would talk about having complicated phone patch in to your studio. And then thank goodness for cell phones with earbuds. Laya: Right. We still call it phone patch -- Anne: Right? Laya: -- but it's like, we're actually, we've upped the tech a little bit. Right? Anne: Yup. Laya: It's not necessarily a phone, but yeah, you're right. There's so many clients and partners out there that need to pass it on to somebody that isn't used to this program, you know, is used to just going into a studio and letting somebody else handle it. So you gotta make it easy for them with something as simple as a phone number -- Anne: Yeah. Exactly. Laya: -- or a Zoom link or something that they're used to. You got to meet them where they are. Anne: Yeah. I think that's your client non-technical person that needs to be able to hear what you're doing with their copy -- Laya: Yeah. Anne: -- is a phone patch, the cell phone number, the Zoom connection, Skype connection. And that's just something that you want to make sure that as a talent, when they are connected, they are either muted when you are obviously voicing the copy or, you know, you are muting them so that you're not getting the feedback. Or even if they're in your ear, you don't want that to bleed through. So -- Laya: Yeah. Anne: -- make sure that you have a good mute system or you know how to mute clients when you are speaking the copy. Laya: Yeah. Anne: And that I would say the very elemental client connect to us in our studio, those are some viable methods. Now what about connecting to studios? We have a couple of different options here. Laya: Yeah, we do. And I even want to go back a step if, if that's all right with you, Anne. Anne: Sure. Laya: Because I found that more and more of my clients who are used to into a studio may not be used to connecting now virtually with a studio. And so they're just coming straight to me as the voice talent saying like, how do we get this done? And so I offer a few solutions, right? I say, you know, um, I have multiple connectivity options. You can connect with me via the digital methods, which would be Skype, Google Hangouts, Zoom -- funny story as a side, I offered just to Zoom and Skype to a client that works with Google. And so they were like -- Anne: Oh wow. Laya: -- oh no, we do Google Hangouts. And I was like, oh yeah, of course -- Anne: Got to offer that. Laya: That's now, don't want to offend Google. So of course that's in the mix or phone patch, you know, I say, if you've got a conference line -- Anne: Sure. Laya: -- but right from the jump I say, you know, or I would prefer to connect with a studio of your choice, or I can recommend one for SourceConnect or ipDTL -- Anne: ipDTL. Laya: -- or anything like that that makes it easy on them. So I first put it in their court when approached with it, because I do find that so many times, they're like, uh, how do we do this? You know, at least that was the case in the very beginning. Anne: Well, I want to add to that list, in addition to your visual hangouts, if they just need an audio hangout, there's also Bodalgo Call. There's also -- Laya: Yes. Anne: Right? That they can just connect up audibly. And by the way, I had some international clients that Zoom did not work. And so they had to use Skype. And that was the only thing that -- Laya: Skype is another one, yeah. Anne: -- will work. Really depends on certain protocols, I know, of security. Laya: Yep. Anne: And so one was Skype. Another person could only connect via Zoom. The other, if it's audio only, it could be, but Bodalgo Call. There's also Open Connection. I'm trying to think what else is -- I think now, um, I'm just trying to think. There is a new capability of I -- maybe it's Mac iOS that you can connect an audio call. I'm gosh, I'm now, I'm going to, I'm going to go crazy trying to think of it. But anyways, there are those other options where if you just need an audio connection where they listen in, you can offer that, where they don't have to dial a number, but they can join in via computer. Laya: Yes. Anne: And there's audio options for any of these. Laya: Oh for sure there is. Anne: Yeah. So obviously if you don't have to have video, which I recommend, to be honest with you. I don't know if I really want people that in my booth, you know, when I'm performing -- Laya: I agree with you. Anne: -- like you don't have to look at me. Laya: I agree with you. In fact, I want to touch on that a little bit, because in addition to that, like I hear Zoom and I'm like, oh my gosh, I got to like, look presentable. Anne: Gotta do my hair. Laya: But a couple of key points there for me have been, well first, I'll ask them what their preferred connectivity, but I'll asterisk with, if you find that playback during our session is going to be essential -- Anne: Oh yes. Laya: -- for decision-making with your client -- some clients are just like, no, just send me -- I just want to listen in. And they're very low hassle, I don't know. Anne: Yep. Laya: They're easy to deal with. And so that you've worked with them in the past. It's no big deal. They just want to listen in. And sometimes they've got a lot of people on the line, and a lot of personalities and they definitely want playback. And I said, well, hey, unless we're connecting to a studio, which can absolutely engineer that -- Anne: Sure. Laya: -- the only way that my capabilities are going to allow playback are through Zoom. I haven't found any other playback capabilities, albeit I haven't looked very hard, but I'm like you, have an Apollo. I use Adobe Audition. And I have found that the only thing I can do playback on is through Zoom, if they're not using SourceConnect, of course. What are your options? Have you found any? Anne: So that's really interesting because I have an Apollo, and I use Twisted Wave. So my Apollo acts as a virtual audio output device -- Laya: Interesting. Anne: -- because I can play it within Twisted Wave, and they'll be able to hear it, which is something I didn't have until I got the Apollo. Other interfaces, they did not act as that. There's some software that you can load on your computer that can act as a virtual audio output device, like Sound Flower. The other thing too, if I need to play back for a client or a studio, I use ipDTL, which allows me to -- Laya: Right, perfect. Anne: -- play it back. But it's always like, oh, can we get playback? And I'm like, all right, but it's the raw audio. Laya: Yeah, I haven't cleaned it. Anne: I haven't edited anything out. But that's my paranoid, non-engineer, you know -- Laya: Yeah. Anne: -- going, oh my God, all right, I can play it back, but you're going to hear that mouth or something. Laya: And those curveballs can really throw you off your performance games. Anne: Yeah, yeah. Laya: So it's important to know all these avenues. And I'm so glad you pointed out those playback options. It might just be in my lack of knowledge or education -- Anne: ipDTL. Laya: -- on the matter. So I'm going to look that up, but yeah, of course. So I'm going to offer that. They're my partner now too. Anne: But if I had my choice, if I had my choice, if I am on the line with a studio, and I'm connected via ipDTL, SourceConnect, Connection Open, and I think there's another high quality audio connection option out there right now. Forgive me that I can't think of it right now, but ipDTL and SourceConnect are the two big ones, but I -- Laya: And SessionLink, I think I've done -- Anne: Oh, SessionLink. Laya: Yep. Anne: That's it. That's the one I was thinking of. So those are options when you want to connect up to a studio, and when that happens, I love it because the studio engineer can typically do the playback. Laya: Same, same. Anne: Yeah. Laya: I'm like, yes, I can finally just focus on me -- Anne: Being an actor. Laya: Yes. Uh, I wish buyers knew what a better performance they probably get -- Anne: Right? Laya: -- and a smoother transition when they get, when you're dealing with a studio and an engineer. It really does take the pressure off. So let's talk about what happens when it doesn't go so well. Anne: You're flustered. Laya: Yeah. Anne: So number one, I'm going to say this, just from experience and just from a tech experience as well. Not just voice over, but being, being a techhead for 20 years, always have a backup plan -- Laya: Always. Anne: -- because things can fail. Connections can fail. I've been noticing recently there's been some conversations about one of the providers not working so well. I've had my days where, you know, things just happen. Like ipDTL is slow or weird or something doesn't connect, or SourceConnect, right? It's just not working the way -- maybe SourceConnect Now. Oh, that's the other one, by the way, they can do playback, probably, SourceConnect Now. Laya: Okay. Anne: So those things, what do you do if one thing doesn't work? You always have to have your backup. And you know, in the heat of the moment when the client is there, and you don't know when you can reschedule that session, you certainly don't want your interface failing. You don't want your Internet network to fail. So if you can have backup points all along the way, meaning what if your microphone, I don't know. All of a sudden your microphone like dies, right? Do you have another microphone? Can you swap it out quickly? Do you have another audio interface? Do you have another network, Internet network, like a backup Internet connection? Those are things that I think as a professional, you need to have those in place. So that during an important session, usually when it's a live directed session, I'm going to say it's probably a pretty important, not that our self-directed sessions aren't important, but when it's a live directed session, there's that added pressure. You've got the client usually on the line or the studio on the line that you're trying to make a good impression. Like, hey, I got this. And you certainly don't want to seem any less than professional or prepared -- Laya: Yes. Anne: -- when something bad might happen. So that's my first, my first advice. Laya: I can't agree with you more. And let me just share from experience. Anne: Yes. Laya: First of all, it happens to all of us -- Anne: It does. Laya: -- and we're all human. So just admitting calmly and in control to whoever may be affected -- Anne: Calmly. Laya: -- you know, we're having an issue -- exactly. Oh my God, freaking out, is not the way to go with your clients. But if you can admit, hey, you know what, I'm experiencing something that's unusual right now. Give me just a few minutes. And if we can break for five, I'll get right back to you. Sometimes -- Anne: You are like the epitome of calm. I'm just saying, like the way you just said that, I just love it. I'm not quite sure I could say it so coolly, but you just -- that was awesome. Laya: You know, just give me a moment. Anne: Just a moment. Laya: Get your meditation voice on. No, so to me, I've actually had this happen on two occasions where the power surge has gone out, like a brown-out in the middle of the afternoon for no reason. There's not even -- it's like a rolling blackouts. You know, sometimes, city's done -- that has happened to me once before. And let me tell you, I had a plan and I had a backup. Now I wasn't able to use the Apollo because that's powered, but I have -- Sound Devices has another DAW system that I use. And I was able to use -- my power was backed up -- Anne: Nice. Laya: -- and flipped on a candle. And I was able to conduct a session -- Anne: Careful in the booth with that candle. Laya: Exactly. Right, right. Having a power outage. Anne: Yeah. Laya: I mean, something as crazy as that. Anne: Yeah. Laya: And of course everyone understands, but you know, they may have a lot riding on the session as well, under deadline, with a new client and what have you. So you got to have a backup. Anne: Can I just say that absolutely the power is super important, and you may not even realize until you're live, right, and with a client, your Internet connection failing -- Laya: Yes. Yep. Anne: -- or especially when you're connected wifi. And if you're connected directly to a studio or to a client, it really does help to have that dependable, reliable Internet connection that doesn't have dropouts. Laya: Yep. Anne: And wifi, I'm sorry, guys. I know wifi is convenient and easy and not a lot of people are necessarily technical or know, but it helps to be directly connected -- Laya: Definitely. Anne: -- to your router, to your Internet at all possible costs because that is going to be one less point of failure. So. Laya: Yep, hard-wired in is the way to go for sure. As soon as you can, uh, establish that connection with your studio or with your home Internet, and even upgrade to a business Internet system where you've got more bandwidth, hopefully you, you know, maybe even got fiber in your area. Anne: Sure, yeah. Laya: That's just some key stuff. And that way you can use, if -- as your backup can be your wifi hotspot on your cell phone, if need be. That's happened to me before as well. Anne: Oh yeah, that's always my second. My second Internet connection is my wifi hotspot, which is great to have that Internet connection. Now, what about, okay, mentally, right? Technically, look, you just have to be prepared with backups, and you have to understand hopefully enough to know how to disconnect, reconnect. I always, by the way, if I'm going to finish up on the technical aspect of being prepared, take a picture of your connections into your DAW and you know what I mean? And, and into, into the whole booth, right? Your monitor's connected this way, your microphones are connected here into your audio device. And so take pictures of the back of it -- Laya: Great tip. Anne: -- label your cables and -- Laya: Oh, label my cables, that's absolutely key. Anne: Label your cables. Laya: Label the cable should be like hashtag. Anne: Label the cables. Laya: I love it. Anne: And also, well, computer backup too doesn't it hurt. So always have that second. And I use my travel rig as my backup, right? So I have a laptop, and I've got a different interface, and I've got another microphone at the ready pretty much so that I can go there. And, but if you don't, make sure that you're taking pictures of how things are connected. 'Cause even me being a technical person, you know, in the heat of the moment, you want to make sure that you can react quickly. Laya: Yeah. Anne: So now mentally, I had an experience where I had a live directed session with a very large client. One of the clients that -- a client I've always -- a dream client that I've always wanted to be connected to. And I actually experienced an engineer who was trying to, I don't even know how to say it, was trying to impress the client in his own way and made me do like, I'm going to say, three takes of every single line of a fairly large medical narration project. And it became very stressful for me because every single -- and I didn't know, he had planned on doing three takes of every line, and this what should have been an hour session turned into three and a half hours. And by the time that was done, I was exhausted. And mentally I was really frustrated, and it was starting to affect my performance. So -- Laya: Absolutely. Anne: -- mentally you need to be prepared for that kind of a pressure. And sometimes I say, it's good to have a practice session with somebody. If you've got a close connection, even a voiceover talent that you are -- have an accountability group or something, do some test sessions and have things go wrong, and see how you can react. It does help at least the preparedness or feeling better, because mentally, if your performance is suffering, that's tough. What are your -- Laya: Yeah. Anne: -- do you have some suggestions, Laya -- Laya: Oh gosh, sure. Anne: -- for mental, you know, how to recover mentally? Laya: Yeah. Well, sure, and again, that happens to everybody also, right? Anne: Yeah. Laya: Even the pros of the pros, the top people -- Anne: Yep. Laya: -- there's always sometimes just somebody in the group that's either trying to establish themselves -- Anne: Yes. Laya: -- because they're posturing for whatever reason is going on for them, maybe they haven't had the best day, or they're trying to prove themselves -- Anne: Exactly. Laya: -- in the room. And you know what? You just have to remember, you're the hired gun. Anne: Yep. Laya: You're the hired -- you, you're just there to listen and just take orders -- Anne: Yep. Laya: -- and leave your ego at the door -- Anne: Exactly. Laya: -- and just try to serve them and the copy and the client to the best of your ability. But I have been in that situation several times before, and it really doesn't come down to -- if you can remember, it really is not about your performance. Sometimes it's easy to recognize these people sometimes in a session. Anne: Yep, yep. Laya: You know, first sometimes even taking a step back, there's a lot of people coming at you. And so when I'm in a self-directed session or not a self-directed, but when I'm engineering the session myself, and I'm not connected to a studio, and if I am, sometimes there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen, and there's a lot of people coming at you with all different opinions. Anne: Sure. Laya: And sometimes I'll listen to them all. If it calms down, you know, maybe it's bubbling up for a minute or two -- if it calms down, I'm able to get the focus again. I usually come back and say, okay, so-and-so, so tell me, this is how I thought I heard that. This is my translation of that. But to keep it super clear, moving forward, do you think I can get that direction from just one person? And sometimes it's a reframe, and that sets a neutral tone -- Anne: Sure. Laya: -- for all the personalities that are on the phone. Right? Anne: Yeah. Laya: And so, because that can mess with you mentally as well. Anne: Oh yeah. Laya: And so I think establishing that and like re-getting control of the session, that can help when all those personalities are chiming it, or they're asking for multiple retakes, and you're just, you're like, well, but I'm doing it. You know? You start to second guess yourself. Anne: That's the thing that's such an -- I'm glad you brought that up because it's so important when they're asking for a different take. And sometimes the people that are asking for it, they don't know how to ask for it. Laya: Yep. They don't know the language to use. Anne: They don't know the language. Laya: Right? Anne: And hey, sometimes even people that do know the language don't know how to ask for that. And so you have to be very aware that this is something that will happen to you. And at one point, if they're asking you for so many retakes, then your confidence level starts to really fluctuate. Laya: Yeah. Anne: And I like in my head, I'm like, oh my God, did I not give them what they want? Well, I just gave them that. What, how did that not work? Really? And so that sort of conversation that you have in your head, that can really start to affect your performance. My go-to is breathing, just breathe, you know, in through the nose and exhale. I just heard my nose [phonetic]. Laya: Yeah. Anne: Breathing in deeply. And that helps a lot. Laya: Even on top of that shaking, like sometimes it's okay to say, hey, you know what? Anne: I need a minute. Laya: I needed just a moment. If you can take a break for just a few minutes, let me shake it off real quick -- Anne: Yup. Laya: -- and come right back to you with a fresh set of ears on my own, you know, in my own headphones. Anne: Yup. Laya: And maybe that will help. Anne: Yeah. Laya: 'Cause I want to make sure that you're getting exactly what you want out of this session. Anne: Exactly. Laya: And as long as you continue to put it back on them, but are humble and human enough to say, you know what? I just need a moment. Um, let me get some water, step out for just a second. And I'll be right back with you. Anne: Yeah. Laya: And sometimes that's enough to break up even them in their own headspace. Maybe they didn't even realize that's like a good way to send a signal. Like, you're overdoing it. Anne: Yup. Laya: And the talent needs to regroup. And that's a very professional thing to do. Anne: Yeah. Laya: And it's totally acceptable. Anne: And sometimes, sometimes they'll either say too much or they won't say anything and you'll be like, oh, okay. Or they'll just, you'll do a number of retakes. And then there'll be like, okay. And then you'd be like, oh my God, I didn't give them what they need. That's it. I'm done. They're never hiring me again. That's the other kind of like, self-deprecating language that might happen -- Laya: Oh, for sure. Anne: -- in your head, is like, oh, okay. They didn't react. And so what are they thinking? And so that can make it a little bit scary -- Laya: Yeah. Anne: -- in your head. So just, you know, for me, I love how, you know, let's take a moment. That always helps me and the breathing, and understand that sometimes you may be giving them exactly what they need, and they're just not responding. Laya: Yeah. Maybe they're distracted. They're something else. Anne: That's right. Laya: They're scrolling on their phone or another email's come through. Anne: That's right. Laya: That can be a challenge -- Anne: Yeah. Laya: -- when you're working virtually like this, you don't know what the other person is experiencing. Anne: Yeah. Laya: I remember one time recently I was on a call with two producers that were partners in two different states, and they clearly did not gel up. They were neck and neck. Anne: Yup. Laya: One of the producers had her kids screaming in the background. So it's in those moments that you have to kind of quickly empathize and identify where the energy source is and the chaos that may be happening for them. Anne: Sure, absolutely. Laya: Bring the calm to the mic and say, you know, what, what I'm hearing from you is this, what I'm hearing from you is this. Would you agree that it's more like this, and you want -- this is the end result here? And then also, like you said, kind of command the room to the best of your ability. You know? Anne: Yeah. Laya: Sometimes it's easy to say, to get the best performance today and I want to deliver what you want, I'm going to need everybody to mute their microphones, and let me get one source of direction or feedback going. And if they don't give it to you, like you're saying, say, okay, so can I get some feedback? You're welcome to ask the questions. And I think sometimes we forget that we can take control of those sessions. Anne: Yeah. Laya: It's one of the most empowering things to feel when you finally feel confident enough to do so. Anne: And the other thing too is just to know that these things do happen, right? It's so hard to predict what can happen in the booth when you have multiple people, what kind of like -- did you mention -- what kind of day they're having, too many people like that are hearing it differently than their head. Remember that we all hear the copy differently in our heads. The best thing you need to do is try to align that sound to what the client wants, right? And that client can differ. You could have a, I don't know, you could have a one, a marketing director or the, that hears it one way. And you could have a producer that hears it a different way. And as you mentioned, the two are clashing, and they might be at the same time directing you or even not. Let's say you've done the session. And then they come back and ask you for something different. So understand that that's absolutely something that can happen. And it has nothing to do with your performance. Laya: Right. Anne: And you could have given them exactly what they asked for. And a lot of times, I say this all the time, the way that you got the job is not always the way that you'll be directed to do the job once called upon to do it. Laya: So much so. Anne: Right? Laya: Right? That happens all the time. Anne: Because you have a different director, you have a different set of ears, and you have somebody that hears it differently directing you. So it is always very subjective to the person that is directing. And also, I'm just going to say, if you get the check, that's it. Consider it an amazing day. Laya: Yep. Anne: Consider you've given the client what they've wanted. It may not be what you agree or think is the way it should be. Right? But you've given the client what they wanted. And that's the most important thing. Laya: Yeah. And I would say that the -- in the end, no matter how the session goes, I always like to close with a big thank you. Thank you. I -- first of all -- Anne: Yes. Laya: -- I write, and I forgot to say this in the very beginning, but I've always got a notepad with me. As people are making their introductions, I always write down everyone's name so that I -- Anne: Good idea. Laya: -- call of them by name throughout the session, to the best of my ability I can call the director or the producer, whoever's calling the shots by their name, repeat their names again and again so they know that you're very focused on who you're dealing with, even though you're not in the same space. Anne: Sure. Laya: And then at the end close by being, you know, thank you very much for having me. I'm so proud that you selected me for this project. I really hope to have the opportunity to work with you again in the future. Anne: Absolutely. Laya: Good luck on your project and thanks again. Anne: And bam. Laya: And then I think the engineer, if there is one and, you know, wrap it in a nice bow -- Anne: Yep, yep. Laya: -- so they know no matter what, you left with a big smile -- Anne: Sure. Laya: -- and very grateful for their time -- Anne: Yes. Laya: -- and for selecting you. And then, you know, maybe they'll remember, you know, it, wasn't just an awkward, like, okay, thanks. Thanks, guys. Bye. Anne: Yeah. End it professionally gracefully, and you know, again, it's one of those things, then don't stay too long either at the very end. Laya: No, yeah. Anne: Don't expect -- there should be nothing, except thank you. It was a pleasure working with you and good luck with the project. They do not owe you anything else. They don't owe you praise. They don't owe you, hey, well, you know, we'll contact you for the next job. They owe you nothing -- Laya: Yeah. Anne: -- because that is a job. And ultimately, if you've done it to their satisfaction, you'll get paid for it. And so don't be, don't be emotionally affected by any of it at the end. Just close it warmly with a nice little bow. I like that. Wrap it up with a bow and onto the next one. Laya: Yep. And I would say the other thing, and I've -- I made this mistake early on. I realized very quickly it was inappropriate, but the end of the session is not a good time to say, hey, I'd love a copy of that spot when you're done. Anne: Yeah. Oh gosh. Yes, yes, exactly. Laya: Unless you really know the person -- Anne: Good point. Laya: -- or like, it's just, you one-on-one, I'd love to see what you come up with. You know, when this is thing is done. Anne: Yep. Laya: If it's not that easy and comfortable, that is not the time to be asking for anything. Just bow out gracefully. Anne: I totally agree with you right there. Totally. That makes you look a little bit, I don't know, desperate, maybe? Laya: Hungry. Yeah, a little hungry. Anne: And I would say it's a good opportunity for you maybe a month or two down the road when you know the spot's been released to maybe reconnect and then say, hey, thanks so much. Just wanted to say it was a wonderful opportunity. And by the way, if, at that point, if, hey, if you wouldn't mind, is there a way that I might be able to see the finished product? I love it when engineers and producers send me the -- that's the best when they send it to me when it's done. And I'm like, oh my God, like too few people do that. Laya: Yeah. I wish they knew how valuable that was, that currency is. Anne: Yeah. Laya: You know? Anne: I have a couple of really awesome producers that I work with who will just send me the spot, like on, I don't have to ask for it. They send me the spot when it's done. And I'm like, oh, this is so awesome. So that gives you that permission to share it. And just, it's just a good thing to see your finished product. But -- Laya: Yes. Anne: -- yeah. Laya: And I would like to mention too, that part of that follow-up process, only when appropriate -- Anne: Yes. Laya: -- but it helps to write down those names because a -- Anne: Sure. Laya; -- few weeks later, or even a few days later, in some instances -- you got to feel it out and trust your gut -- if it was appropriate for you to make contact, meaning your agent didn't book that for you -- Anne: Right. Laya: -- and there's not a middleman or anything like that -- Anne: Yeah. Laya: -- having their name or their studio affiliation, it'll at least allow you to find them or follow their studio on Instagram. Sometimes we are given the name of the studio or their production company that's working with it or the agency that's creating the piece -- Anne: Sure. Laya: -- not necessarily the client. Great time to make a followup connection, be it LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube, and follow their work, continue to champion them and cheer them on. Anne: Yes. Laya: Or just drop them a line on LinkedIn and say, hey, I had a great session with you last week. Just wanted to say and take care of yourself. Hope all is well. Anne: Yes. Laya: I look forward to keeping an eye on your creative output, you know, in the months to come or something like that. It's a great way to follow that up too. Anne: Excellent point about if you get this work through an agent, and I just want to reiterate this, if you get work through your agent, I strongly recommend reconnecting with your agent first, before. Laya: Yes. Anne: Like don't connect the client directly -- Laya: No. Anne: -- connect to the client directly after the job or at any point, really, if it came through your agent, because that's a relationship that that agent has worked probably for a number of days, months, years, whatever, to connect and to secure. And you don't want to just kind of go in between that. So handle that professionally. Always go through your agent if the agent is the one that set that up for, if you have any questions or if you want to connect or say, do you think it would be okay if I sent them a thank you or ask for a copy of it? So excellent point. Wow. It was a great discussion today, Laya. Laya: Yeah, love these BOSSes in the booth. Anne: BOSSes in the booth. Laya: I know our listeners are going to be able to take control of those situations -- Anne: Yeah. Laya: -- because all of them can crop up. But in this day, this modern times, you really need to wear multiple hats -- Anne: That's right. Laya: -- in the booth. And that comes down to client relations, to engineering, to tack -- Anne: Yep. Laya: -- to being your actor, your best performance self, all those things with eloquence and grace, and then you'll win. Anne: There you go. Laya: You know, you'll be the BOSS in the booth. Anne: Modern BOSSes in the booth. All right, I'm going to give a great, big shout-out to my modern connectivity -- Laya: Yes. Anne: -- through ipDTL, our sponsor. We love them. Thank you so much, ipDTL, for always connecting me with BOSSes like Laya. You too can be a BOSS connected ipDTL person. Find out more at ipdtl.com. All right, guys, have an amazing week. Laya: Thanks, everybody. Anne: We'll see you next week. Bye. Laya: Bye-bye. >> Join us next week for another edition of VO BOSS with your host Anne Ganguzza. And take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at voboss.com and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies, and new ways to rock your business like a BOSS. Redistribution with permission. Coast to coast connectivity via ipDTL.

Bosses, your time is money. Don't waste a second of it! Anne + Laya dive deep into all the things that keep their businesses on track every day. From adding personal time to the calendar to automating follow up emails, you'll want to try it all. Transcript >> It's time to take your business to the next level, the BOSS level! These are the premiere Business Owner Strategies and Successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a BOSS, a VO BOSS! Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguzza. Anne: Hey everyone. Welcome to the VO BOSS podcast. I'm your host Anne Ganguzza, along with the amazing, happy new year, very special guest cohost Laya Hoffman. Laya, yay! Laya: Hey Anne, happy new year. Anne: Happy new year to you. How are you, Laya? Laya: Did you rock it? I'm great. I'm like ready to seize this year. Anne: Did I rock it? Like every new year's -- Laya: Did you rock it? Anne: I'm getting older now, so it's harder and harder. Laya: It's slower rocking. Anne: It's slower rocking for me, but you know what? I celebrate it just as much, however, I may not be awake exactly. Laya: Yeah. I mean, well, it's funny. I used to run nightclubs for a living, and so New Year's Eve was the biggest thing that we did all year long. And I can't even tell you the planning and the hours awake that I stayed. Anne: Oh, I can imagine. Laya: It's probably not something I would admit publicly. And here I am, but now I'm like to me, a rocking new year is in bed by 10. Anne: And you were probably the thing about that is you were probably working at the stroke of midnight. Laya: Oh working, oh, for sure. I was, I was on stage commanding the audience, doing the thing popped in the balloons. Oh yeah. The whole nine yards. Anne: The whole nine yards. Laya: These days, my rocket new year is much more low key. Yeah. Anne: And it got very confusing when my husband and I moved from the east coast to the west coast. Cause now we're like, well, okay, can we celebrate it at 9:00? Laya: Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Because the ball drops at 9:00. Absolutely. Anne: The ball drops at 9:00 out here. Laya: Yes, it does. Anne: And I still get confused. I don't know. We've been out here forever and I still get confused, but anyway. Laya: You can do it. You can do it. Anne: We go on. Laya: I say so. Anne: We go on. Laya: We go on to a better, brighter year, hopefully. Anne: That's right. Laya: Because gosh, I mean, we've had some success. We talked about this in the last episode. Anne: Yeah. Laya: There was a lot to look back on last year as being positive, and with this new growth mindset, we're walking into the new year, but we've got some good -- Anne: We've got work to do. Laya: -- ideas to share. Yes, we do. Anne: That's right. Laya: And we have to make this year the best yet. Anne: Yeah. So with all this work that we've already kind of like, here's what we want to do for our new year -- and of course, you know, over the actual time that you've had to think if you've had some time off, you might've come up with some more things that maybe you want to do for this new year, get yourself pumped up. So I think it's a great time to talk about, oh, how can I get this all organized? How can I be more productive with my time? Because I had a lot to do last year. And if I want to continue those, if I want to continue my brand and my parallel income streams, I still have a lot to do this year. So I want to know how can I do that more productively? Laya: That is a great question. I'm asking myself that all the time, but as a Virgo, A-typical personality, super organized and a little OCD, I think that for me, it starts with a bit of a daily checklist. And I mean, I don't always stick to it, but at least it's in my framework of which buckets of the business can I dip into and touch a little bit every day? So that's where my productivity window starts. How about you? Anne: Well, okay. So yeah, old school, old school, I have a to-do list. Laya: Your pen and paper. Anne: Yes, my pen and paper. And because I have to continue to make sure that I can actually write with a pen. It's interesting because when I write checks now like hand write checks, it's -- Laya: Oh yeah, your signature is all crazy. Anne: Yeah! Laya: Calligraphy is off. Anne: My calligraphy is off. Laya: Yeah. Anne: I feel like the pen doesn't fit right in my hand anymore. Laya: Yeah, isn't that crazy? Anne: And that's with my to-do list. I'm constantly scratching on my to-do list. And literally I have saved my to-do list for the past five years. And they're just these little, I have these wonderful, thin notebooks that I love to write in, lined. And I basically every single day, actually the night before, this is what helps me, I write down what I want to accomplish the next day or what I need to do for the next day. Laya: Love that. Anne: It doesn't always get crossed off because sometimes those tasks are, you know, multiple day tasks. But for me, what I love is, and I, and I remember you telling me, you like to cross those things off. I mean, that is like a -- Laya: I do. Anne: -- it's like a feel-good, I'm done, cross it off. I like that. I check beside it because I like to be able to see what I've done throughout the year. I still use that as kind of a checkpoint, but I also like to flip the page, right? To a new day, a clean -- Laya: A new day. Anne: -- slate. Laya: A clean slate. Absolutely. Anne: A clean slate, absolutely. And I make sure that that is the first thing that I do. Plus as I'm telling you, I'm getting a little older, my brain doesn't always remember everything that I have to do. Laya: Sure. Anne: So writing it down really helps cement this is what I have to do. It helps remind me of what I have to do. And the check mark is like so satisfying. Laya: Yes, it is. Well, speaking of that check mark, I actually have something maybe we are able to share with the BOSSes, like the actual document, but I created a VO business daily checklist for myself that is in those buckets. It has a few things. The buckets are, what do I do in my voice work? it's warm up stretch, vocalize, then all the way down the list into check emails, record and edit and deliver jobs, file all the work, you know, digital folders, et cetera, and make sure that -- Anne: Write the invoices. Laya: -- it's not all cluttered on the -- yes, the invoices, all of that. Then there's a bucket for business development. Then there's one for social, like stay active, but -- Anne: Love it. Laya: -- don't waste time here. That's a huge asterisk next to everything. Learn something new is another bucket and health and wellness is a bucket -- Anne: Nice. Laya: -- as we've talked about a lot before, so maybe I'll polish this thing up, and we can share it with our BOSSes. Anne: Yes, that sounds amazing. Laya: It's helpful. It's equal parts -- I print them out. I have it digitally, but then I can check them off and start a new page when everything's accomplished. Helps my mind stay focused and stay productive. Anne: Well, you know, what's really nice too, is if any of you guys are Mac users, the Notes, just the simple Notes application works great. You can create a checklist. Laya: Yes, it does. Anne: Yup. And what I love about it is you can check those things off and then you can see it nicely and neatly checked off. So if you aren't enthralled with your handwriting. Laya: No handwriting required. Anne: No handwriting required for the Notes version. And yeah, I think that that for me is the number one thing that helps me stay organized and be productive. And I'm going to talk a little bit about, 'cause you mentioned it, social media. I literally cannot have a social media window open when I am trying to be productive. I just -- Laya: Nope, nope, no notifications either for me. Anne: -- can't. Laya: Yeah. Anne: And even though I say to myself, I am advertising on social media, right? 'Cause I have events through my VO Peeps and my VO BOSS episodes I'm posting out there, and I want to make sure that I'm responding and engaging with the community. I cannot have the windows open for LinkedIn, for Facebook, for Instagram, for anything, if I'm trying to get something done. So I make sure that I have specific times during the day that I will open them up and check and then respond. Laya: Yes. I actually agree with that. And here's a tip for BOSSes. I use my social media, meaning Instagram and Facebook, the real, you know, schleppy social media channels, but are equally as important. I only check those in the morning over coffee, 8:00, 9:00. And then again in the evening, 5:00, 6:00. The reason I do is because those are peak times for engagement. And so if you are going to post, and people are going to engage, the chance of them seeing it is higher in those time points -- Anne: Oh yeah. Laya: -- as opposed to you posting it 2:00 in the afternoon or 9:00 at night. So those are great windows of opportunity for exposure and to compartmentalize. And then I check LinkedIn at lunchtime because that's when my business colleagues and people are most active on LinkedIn is straight in the middle of their day. It's going to trickle out on its own time, as we know about all these platforms. But for me, that's where I compartmentalize that time to make sure that I don't stay off. I'm not great at it, but that's where I like to stay. Anne: And I think it's been, I think that those specific times are really good. And you know, it's been an adjustment, I will say, because I know that people were more used to me being like immediately engaging on social media. And I know the past couple of years, I just cannot be immediately there to respond or comment when things come in, and it's okay. I've had to kind of be okay with that myself to not be as available out there. And I've always like stressed and worried. Well, if I don't respond, will I lose my audience? Laya: Oh gosh. Anne: But I think that that has been one of those things that I have had to really try to test out and see, okay, how many times do I need to revisit and engage with my audience before they figure, oh, this is just, nobody's really here. And I do know that I have certain social media avenues where people think I'm not there, and that I'm a robot. And that has been something that I've been really consciously trying to test out and rectify and figure out what is the -- is there a magical formula for when and how often I should revisit that? So that has been the last couple of years, it has been a definite like test on my part, and I've realized that I don't have to be there. And in reality, I think the way social media has gotten in the past where it's been a little more toxic, a little more frustrating, there are more people who are taking time off from social media. And it's a little more accepted that -- Laya: Oh, it's beyond accepted. Anne: -- I'm not there. Laya: And let me give you a perspective flip on the mindset of that. If I see somebody that's constantly on social media, like throughout the day, the first thing I think of is they're not busy in their work. Anne: Oh my goodness, yes. Laya: They're not successful because they're -- Anne: Absolutely. Laya: -- wasting their time here if -- they wouldn't be here if they had jobs in the booth. So when I see people that are super active all day long, I think what are you doing in your business? You're just chatting or responding to people. Anne: I love that you say that. Laya: So the mindset flip there is like, hey, the perception, maybe to others, if I am responding so much, is that I don't have enough work in my business. Anne: Well, yeah. Laya: And nobody wants to feel that way. Anne: Nobody wants that. Laya: But that candidly is sometimes what I see when I -- and not in our industry necessarily, when I see other people that I think are successful creatives. I'm like, what are you, how do you have time to be on this at 2:00 in the afternoon? You know? And so that's just a different way to shift your perspective. Maybe that'll help. I don't know. Anne: No, I actually, I love that you said that because there will be times I will see certain people, if they're continually commenting, continually posting, and I'll be like, what? Like, and this sounds horrible, but like, stop, like, just be quiet. Like just want to say, why are you here so much? Laya: Yes. Anne: Like if you're that busy, why are you still talking? Laya: Or if you're that successful, how are you that -- there's no way you're that successful if you were spending half your day or you're checking in every hour or whatever it is. And it's a willpower thing. Right? And so I'm like, maybe you're a little weak in your willpower, or maybe you're a little weak in your self-esteem that you've got to be on this all the time -- Anne: Interesting. Laya: -- looking for re-encouragement or looking for engagement when you should just be in your business. So that's kind of where I stuck in my head when I felt the same way about you. I started to notice how I felt when I saw that type of activity. Anne: Yeah, I think it's always -- Laya: Maybe that's a hack. Anne: I think it's always good to look inward. So how you -- it's similar to, let's say emails, right? So if I got an email from somebody, and it was unsolicited and they're trying to sell me something, and I look at it and inside I go really? Like, and that is my initial reaction. I think that all BOSSes should look to that. In terms of before you post something, before you email something, before you do anything, how would you react if it was done to you? That kind of thing, you know? Right. I mean, it's just, it's like life lessons 101. Laya: Sure, sure. Anne: If that happened to you, how would you feel? And so there are so many people that are silently doing that to every move possibly that you make on social media or in an email. They're silently making assessments. That's how I'll put it, they're making assessments. Laya: Sure. Anne: And so -- Laya: That's what I was doing. I, so I totally agree with that. Yeah. Anne: I think it's a good check to find out should I post, should I say that? Should I do that? So in terms of helping me be more productive, it actually has helped me to be more productive to limit myself -- Laya: Good for you. Anne: -- limit my input on social media. So that is definitely a number two productivity hack so that I can get my job done and not be distracted. Laya: Time management. Anne: Yes. Laya: You know, it's about everything. And it also kind of comes down to how you format your day. I don't know about you, but a typical day for me will be I get up and I'll do my wellness exercises, my meditation, we've talked about that. Get some fresh air, take care of my kid, get right down to work. I'll usually address -- and I, and I do this in stages and kind of in blocks. And I've learned this through some of my other voiceover mentors, because it's very easy to get wrapped up and scattered in your brain as to, oh, I should. I got to just get these invoices. And I just take a little bit of time every day, but I keep it organized, right? I'll handle all my top priority clients and agent auditions first or jobs, but usually a job isn't -- for me because I work shortform, is not usually left to the next morning unless it has to be. But the warmups for me tend to sit there, and then I'll continue to block the day where if there's jobs, in between those jobs or those sessions, I know I've got invoicing later this afternoon, I'm going to do all my invoicing in one block. And so those block mentality, as you compartmentalize your day, can help you stay productive. And there's a lot of thought about that, like work for 50 minutes and then take that 10-minute break, get up, walk around, get a snack, get a drink, what have you. And so if you can block your day -- Anne: That's important. Laya: -- that also helps with productivity. Anne: Well, as a matter of fact, my sessions are 50 minutes long. So I have 10 minutes to just relax and/or prep for my next session. And I wanted to kind of go back in terms of communication with clients, right? In terms of any type of communication with clients that you might do over and over again, there's a really cool feature that I love in, well, I have two ways that I do it. One is in Gmail. Gmail has templates now. So if you have a certain message that you send over and over to, let's say, a new contact, "hi, thanks so much for contacting. It's a pleasure to meet you. I'd be thrilled to be the voice for your next project." And so those types of templates can be automatically filled through the Gmail templates. I also had another thing that I purchased before the Gmail template came out and that was called Type 4 Me. And that's on a Mac. Laya: Oh, okay. Anne: T-Y-P-E, 4, the number four, Me. And that allows me to have all of these little like clips of the same type of emails, even my response, like my "warm regards, comma, you know, new line, new line, Anne Ganguzza." Laya: Right. Anne: That is, that is a clip. And I can just in a keystroke and with one, I'll do it. Like, thank you. I think I do, uh, TYWR, then it pops in those words for me into the email. And that helps me so immensely. Laya: Thanks for that hack, Anne, because I am a Mac user, and I'm slightly jealous. I know there's a way to convert into using your email to, or Apple Mail to Gmail, but I missed from my old days, those canned email responses. And so what I do is -- Anne: Yup. Laya: -- I have a document for that, but thank you for helping me to the Type 4 Me, for Mac. I knew there was something. Anne: There is. Laya: Because I do use canned email templates for a lot of things. I do -- I have one for generic inquiries, for generic corporate work or just what my kind of standard rates are. And that helps you streamline the process. Of course, I tweak and personalize where I need to and when I need to, but just like you see some templates features in some of the pay-to-plays, it's very helpful to -- Anne: Oh yeah. Laya: -- just continue to go back to that. I like to keep mine in Google docs, that way I can pull it from anywhere or in my notes, and it can be on my phone in case I'm on the go. And that makes sure that you don't miss anything when communicating quickly to a new client or sending -- Anne: Oh, it's so helpful. Laya: -- inquiry, right? So it's so key. Thanks for that, Type 4 Me. Anne: Type 4 Me. And I think also on the Mac, there is an auto-complete. If you type a few characters, there is an auto-complete, and you can set that up, and that's just comes with the operating system. However, I'm so used to -- and you might want to look into that. Laya: Sure. Anne: Just look into Mac iOS auto-complete, and see how you can enact that or enable that. But I love the type, the Type 4 Me is, it just pops up. It's a little application and I can just say, assign these few characters to this snippet. You know, so it's actually a snippet. Laya: Sure. Anne: And I love, love, love it, because it totally helps me. And I'll tell you another thing that helps me, which I found out a couple of years ago, because I do schedule meetings, and I'm in meetings quite a bit, not just with clients, but also with students. And so my other is a scheduling system, which is done through my Wix website that schedules on my calendar, integrates with my Google calendar, which by the way, I would not be able to live without my Google calendar. Laya: Same. Anne: Everything is scheduled into my Google calendar, and there's a lot of programs out there. Laya: My whole life. Anne: Yes, my life is Google calendar, and everything, there are lots of programs out there that integrate with a Google calendar. Laya: Yeah. Anne: So that is like another one of my hacks. Like literally here, if you want to talk to me or you want to get in touch with me, bang, go sign up for a free consult or just get on my calendar here. And those types of automations really help me to schedule when I can talk to people. Like I literally am scheduled out probably -- my days are pretty darn busy, but this is an ongoing thing with me. You literally need to get me at least a week or two in advance before I can fit you in. 'Cause I've got it so blocked out. Laya: Yeah. Anne: The biggest problem that I have is that if I don't block out time for me, then I have no time for me. That is an issue. Laya: Exactly. So you gotta be number one on your calendar. Anne: Yep. Laya: I agree with you in that I use Calendly, which I've found to be incredibly helpful, especially if you get into the customization. Because for me, I've got, of course I just spoke, I've got an Apple calendar and that does integrate with the Gmail calendars and things of that. I share a calendar with the household. My kid's got a calendar, you know, all of those things. If you're laser connected to Calendly and you can have your own VO calendar, from there, I compartmentalize whether you need a 15 minute precession chat or a SourceConnect test, or maybe you just need to talk about a project that's coming up. Maybe that's a 30 minute block. I've got my session blocks as well for an hour or 50 minutes. And that's helpful to send to my agents for instance -- Anne: Yes. Laya: -- where they're like, hey, we just need to know your schedule. Like what's your general availability for the next two weeks? I'm like, here's my link to Calendly and -- Anne: Oh my God. That's a perfect idea. I love that. Laya: Send that over. Now the thing is though for me, I've chose not to add it to my website. The con for me -- pro would be that it's super easy. The con is that then I would have no control over who's booking. And so I have it embedded in a private link on my website. That private link also has my revisions policy -- Anne: Yup. Laya: -- my professional services guarantee, and my resume in case somebody needs any of that old school, the old school resume information. Anne: Yup, yup. Laya: So I'll send that link to clients that are asking, or I'll just send the Calendly link for this specific time slot they're asking for which can be its own independent link. Like, hey, we just need a SourceConnect test. Well, here's all the 15 minute blocks that you could get in my schedule over the next infinity. So that to me has been a huge bonus hack as far as keeping things easy. And then you're not going back and forth with the well, yeah, 2:00 on Thursday -- Anne: Oh gosh, that takes up -- Laya: -- from this time to this time. Anne: -- so much time. Laya: You're actually -- and it makes you look way less professional and like you've got a system for your schedule, and that you're in demand. And so -- Anne: Well, yeah. Laya: -- I think that has, it serves many purposes. Anne: And I actually have it linked to my signature on my email. Laya: Nice. Anne: Here, set up a consult or whatever, schedule a chat with me. And so it just links to my scheduler, which is so, so helpful for me because you're right, the back and forth, "okay. So when are you available?" And I'm like, honestly, the best way to get in touch with me is here. Laya: Yeah. Anne: And I'll give them a link to my calendar to get on my calendar, and that just helps. And what's nice is it's automated. It has like, thank you. Here's how we're going to connect. You know -- Laya: Yes, same. Anne: -- it might be ipDTL, or it might be via phone call. It might be via Zoom. I've got all the different ways that you can connect with me. And it just makes my life so much easier. I'm going to say that when I implemented my schedule or my calendar, it literally saved me -- and it automated like sent out the emails. Laya: Yeah. Anne: Thank you for connecting. Here's your automated reminder. Laya: Yes, the follow-up on those are awesome. Anne: Oh, gosh, you can do follow-up. And the fact that it automated all of those emails saved me 50%, at least, of the time that I used to try to schedule people in at times and going back and forth with email. It just became really, really frustrating. Laya: Yeah. And the effort to become more accommodating to your clients, to your students, to whoever, even your friends, you end up wasting more of your time. Anne: Yeah. Laya: And so that's kind of a boundary set. That's really nice. And I love that you spoke to the automation on the backend. Anne: Yeah. Laya: Like I mentioned with Calendly, I can send an immediate reminder 15 minutes prior to session. Anne: Yup, yup. Laya: I can send a follow-up message two weeks after or a week after, or what have you, that says, hey, just checking in, making sure everything is clean with the audio, if you had any other needs. And so it takes that extra wheelhouse off of my mind. Of course, I still have my own method for following up with the client personally, but this just adds like this extra layer. And sometimes I'll get the response back, and they'll be like, oh, thank you so much for checking back in. And to be honest, I may have even forgotten and you know, to follow up or got so busy and something else. Anne: Yeah. Laya: So it saves just peace of mind and professionalism. It takes it to the next level. Anne: And I think also there are those programs or CRMs that can help you to -- Laya: Sure. Anne: -- once you connect with your contact, after you've done the job, it can send out an automated email that said "thanks so much again, it was a pleasure working with you and keep me in mind for any additional projects. If you have any questions in the meantime, feel free to contact me here" and boom, and then are actual like on a Wix platform, I have a few drip campaigns that are set up that will automatically contact my clients. So if anybody's on a Wix platform, it is part of the Ascend platform that you -- it's an add-on for email marketing. And basically, so after you connect with a client, you can have a "if then" statement that says, if they open this email, then three days later, send this email or send a followup. And there's lots of different scenarios. So it's really great. So I'll give an example for a VO BOSS interview. If somebody inquires about I want to be on the veal BOSS show, it goes through a whole campaign. Here, sign up here, fill out this form here. The form then sends me all the information, and then it gives them a link to the calendar, which then allows them to schedule, which then there's an automated email that says, thank you so much. Here's how you're going to connect with Anne. It'll send a reminder right before the connection. And then a couple of days after the actual scheduled session, there'll be a thank you that goes out. So it's really awesome the way that it can automate. Laya: I love that. Anne: And there's more than just -- that's the Wix platform. I also have an Active Campaign that I send emails out from to my lists. I also have client lists that can also do automations like that. Laya: Yeah. I've seen some of that same functionality in using HubSpot, which is a free CRM solution. You can connect Zapient to MailChimp. Anne: Yes. Laya: You can connect it to -- Anne: Is it Zapient? Laya: Zap -- Zapient? Anne: Or is it Zapier? Is it Zapier or Zay-pier? I can't remember. Are they two different things? Laya: I think they may be one in the same. Anne: Okay. Laya: I'm not going to fact check myself in this moment, but -- Anne: if you start with zap -- Laya: There's a zap somewhere. There's a zap somewhere out there. Anne: I've used it myself. And it's great. Laya: It's great. Anne: So if this happens, then do that. It's a really wonderful free app that you can do things like that with. Laya: And you can pull content too. Like if you have a hard time pulling all your email addresses because you've got multiple email accounts, or you're trying to create more of a contact list -- in fact, I recently found out an automation was in that cog wheelhouse that pulls my contacts from QuickBooks and put it into MailChimp. So I don't have my CRM solution fully vetted out by any means. I need all the help in the world, but trying these different productivity hacks for automation, there are many solutions out there that can make your life easier and less laborious, you know? Anne: Absolutely. And one other thing I'm going to oh, totally, totally recommend is go ahead, be brave and outsource things that you just -- Laya: Yes. Anne: -- don't want to spend your time doing, or it's too com -- I'm going to say like for me, accounting, I say it all the time. Everybody that's listened to any, to just one episode, I might say it every episode. I'm not sure, but outsourcing my accounting was the best thing I ever did for my business. Laya: Yeah. If you don't love it -- Anne: Don't love it. Laya: -- pay someone that does. Anne: And she's great. She's fast. She loves it. And I trust her. I trust her with my life. You know, she'd been doing my accounting for gosh, at least five years. So. Laya: And that's a great hack too. And I use somebody not for my voiceover business, but for the podcast. I have partnered with a very talented, very savvy copywriter, and she knows my style of I, and she creates a social media posts for the podcast that I do with my daughter, She Sounds Like Me. And I love it because it just takes that off my plate. But also we use a platform called Later, which is a social media scheduler. And what I love about that is that I can see what's coming. She can do a cross platform integration and schedule. I can approve it ahead of time. And then if I don't like where she's got it, or it doesn't feel quite right, or it's not timely, I can very easily shift the tiles. So it's either aesthetically pleasing or it's more on topic point or what have you. And that's become a seamless integration into my social media management. I've often thought about integrating it into my voiceover business page, but for me that's still very in the moment, very real time, very personal -- Anne: Oh yeah. Laya: -- and not exactly all that consistent at the moment because of just the last year of burnout. But I have found that Later is a great platform. And I feel like I've tried them all over the years, as far as social media scheduling goes. Anne: Yeah. Laya: So that one's pretty efficient. Yeah. Anne: I have a social media scheduler for, 'cause I have so many Facebook business pages, and Facebook for a while was really where a lot of my clients were. And so I have a Facebook scheduler, which also integrates with Twitter and LinkedIn. I can have so many social media to -- it's called Post Planner. Laya: Okay. Anne: And so I've been using that for years. And then also Facebook now has become, and/or Instagram, one in the same now, have their own scheduler now. Laya: Sure, they do. Anne: And so that has become fairly decent in terms of you can't schedule too far, but you can schedule out. So with the combination of those, I'm able to schedule the majority of my stuff out there. And then I will follow up with the engagement. Like I said, I can't be connected to social media every hour of the day, but when I do connect, that's when I engage and comment and respond and also post some interesting finds to my own timeline or add to what I've already posted before to keep it kind of fresh and not too predictable. Laya: Yeah. Absolutely. Another great resource that I've been loving because my days of graphic design or my experience there is limited -- I know what I like aesthetically, but there's no way I'm going to spend time creating unique graphics, whether it's for the show or for promoting the business or promoting something within the voiceover business, like we've done with the podcast. I love using Canva and I use Canva Pro for graphic design for so many things. Anne: Yay! Canva's amazing. Laya: And it's actually, yeah, speaking of integration and scheduling, Canva just introduced a scheduler within their platform. Anne: [gasps] Yes. Laya: And what I love to deep -- and take it to a next level, everyone asks who may not be savvy in those audio grams, where you're seeing how you've maybe just done a radio commercial, and you've gotten full permission from the client, you can use the spot on social or to promote your business, but they don't have moving imagery. So you grab the picture that represents the brand best or the concept or the campaign. And you overlay that audio on top. People are always asking, how did you do that? I use Headliner for that. Anne: Yup. Headliner's awesome. Laya: Love that. I use it for the podcast as well. And sometimes for some of my voice work or for my demos to make a moving image. But Canva now integrates with Headliner. Anne: Oh, amazing. Laya: So these, some of these systems are working together to not only plan, create, schedule, but overlay -- Anne: Yup. Laya: -- all in an effort to be more productive, more cohesive, and save you time. Anne: I have to plus like 21,000 for Canva because that literally, you don't have to be a graphic artist -- Laya: No, it's so easy. Anne: -- which not many people I know. Laya: It's intuitive. Yeah. Anne: And so I would struggle with Adobe because I have the Creative Suite -- Laya: Same. Anne: -- but it's not something I use every single day. I'm not a graphic designer, and neither are necessarily anybody that's working with me to do to post social media. But Canva has just joined us together in happy, joyous unity. Laya: Oh, I love it. I love it for my teams too. Anne: Yup. Laya: Like I was saying about my social media manager, we have folders that are specific to that brand. Anne: Yup. Laya: I have folders that are specific to my voiceover business or Cyla's voiceover business. And so to go in there and have this asset library -- Anne: Oh yeah. Laya: -- and the membership is very inexpensive. Anne: It is. Laya: There is a free version -- Anne: Yup. Laya: -- and then an inexpensive version. I just make sure -- Anne: I use Pro. Laya: -- that these are part of my -- yeah, me too, to integrate that as part of my business cost, because those memberships can save you so much time, energy, and effort and up-level the look and feel of your brand and your professionalism. Anne: I didn't know they had scheduling. Now I'm going to have to check that out. Laya: Yeah. Anne: That's awesome. Laya: I don't know what it integrates with or if it's a standalone scheduler, but I love that it's there. It's, everybody's thinking along those same lines, you know? Anne: God, good stuff. Laya: For sure. Anne: BOSS productivity hacks. Laya: Love it. Anne: You guys BOSSes, we would love to hear your productivity hacks. So we've given you the best of ours. And I think I am really, really excited for an amazing year this year, Laya, and I know you are too. Laya: Yes, let's work smarter, not harder -- Anne: There you go. Laya: -- and be smart and productive in our VO BOSS businesses. Anne: And I'll tell you what else is smart. Our sponsor, ipDTL. Laya: Yes. Anne: I love, love, love ipDTL. It allows me to connect with Laya, with all of my clients and with every BOSS out there. So you can find out more at ipdtl.com. You guys, have an amazing, productive week. And we'll see you next week. Laya: And happy new year, absolutely. Anne: Yes. Happy new year. Bye, guys. Laya: Bye-bye. >> Join us next week for another edition of VO BOSS with your host Anne Ganguzza. And take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at vobss.com and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies, and new ways to rock your business like a BOSS. Redistribution with permission. Coast to coast connectivity via ipDTL.

Exploring Tech Webinar for DEC 22 2021, the year in review   Having a tech look at all the hardware and software that caught my attention in 2021.   Register at:   https://visionaustralia.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_XMyRcnXdSVOHD9WCg2ng2w    Seeing AI iOS app as of the recent update now supports the Australian currency.   Finally finally finally, you can identify Australian notes via the currency mode in the Seeing AI iOS app. I just wish they would have put in QR code reading given what we have had to use with COVID-19.   New Fully Accessible Recording App for iOS, Pocket Recorder   Nice to see another recorder for iOS, and fully compatible with VoiceOver. I always think it is great when a developer goes that extra step and works on an app to make sure everyone can use it.   https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/introducing-pocket-recorder-accessible-audio-recorder   Grid Frame Studio - Every Classic needs to be Framed   This company frames classic hardware to put up on your wall to display it proudly. Amongst other stuff, for me, I'm going to order the iPhone 3GS as this was the phone that supported VoiceOver, and the iPhone 4s for Siri support. Simply it is a deconstructed iPhone in this case. Other classic hardware is also available, I just focused on the iPhone. For the tech geek. https://gridstudio.cc   Apple Makes Maps more Useable in Australia   Apple Maps has finally been updated in Australia with a new UI, navigation, and public transport integration. Like all changes, I'm still getting used to the new interface, but so far so good, especially for public transport.   https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2021/12/apple-maps-australia/   Life 360 The Company Reported to be Bying Tile is Selling Location Data   This company allows family members to keep track of each other. As Life 360 already states in their privacy statement, they sell data to 3rd party's to keep the service free on anonymous location data, phone battery usage etc. Problem is, how much of Tile data if any will be sold to 3rd party data brokers, and can we be sure that it is perfectly anonymous. Just something to keep an eye on.   https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/12/life360-the-company-buying-tile-is-purportedly-selling-the-location-data-of-millions-of-families-and-kids/   Voice Access in Windows 11 Insider Build Note - Insider builds are beta versions of Windows before the commercial release of the next version. This sounds very similar to Voice Control on Mac/iOS, and nice to see it come to Windows 11 beta. Haven't tried it myself, but here is hoping it will work with Narrator and Windows Magnifier.   https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/12/08/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22518/   5 predictions for the Near Future from Bill Gates   The one that stood out for me was virtual conferences using VR glasses and haptic gloves to be “present” in an actual virtual meeting. Like the author states, not sure why we would want to do this in the first place.   https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/12/5-predictions-for-the-near-future-from-bill-gates/  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Could Using the Right Multi-Factor Authentication Save You? I had a good friend who, this week, had his life's work stolen from him. Yeah. And you know what caused it? It was his password. Now, you know what you're supposed to be doing? I'm going to tell you exactly what to do right now. Let's get right down to the whole problem with passwords. I'm going to tell you a little bit about my friend this week. He has been building a business for. Maybe going on 10 years now, and this business relies on advertising. Most companies do so in some way; we need to have new customers. There's always some attrition. Some customers go away. So how do we keep them? We do what we can. How do we get new customers? For him, it was. Advertising, primarily on Facebook. He did some Google ads as well, but Facebook is really where he was focused. So how did he do all of that? Here's the bottom line you have to, if you are going to be advertising on Facebook, you have to have an advertising account. The same thing's true. Google. And then, on that account, you tie in either your bank account or your credit card. I recommend a credit card so that those transactions can be backed up. And on top of all of that now, of course, you have to use a pixel. So the way the tracking works is there are pixels on websites, about those already. And the bottom line with the pixels. Those are also. Cookies are about the pixels are used to set a cookie so that Facebook knows what sites you've gone to. So he uses those. I use those. In fact, if you go to my website, I have a Facebook pixel that gets set. And the reason for all of that is so that we know with. I'd be interested in something on the site. So I know that there are many people interested in this page or that page. And so I could, I have not ever, but I could now do some advertising. I could send ads to you so that if you were looking at something particular, you'd see ads related to that, which I've always said. It is the right way to go. If I'm looking to buy a pickup truck, I love to see ads for different pickup trucks, but if I don't want a car or truck, I don't want to see the ads. It isn't like TV where it sometimes seems every other ad is about. Car or a pickup truck. It drives me crazy because it's a waste of their money in advertising to me. After all, I don't want those things. And it's also not only just annoying in money-wasting. There are better ways to do targeting. And that's what the whole online thing is. Anyways, I told you about that because he had set up this pixel years ago. Basically, the Facebook pixel gets to know you. All of the people who like you that might've bought from you. Cause you can have that pixel track people through your site, your purchase site, they know what you purchase on the shopping cart, et cetera. And you can identify these people over on Facebook and their ads because they abandoned the cart or whatever it is you want to do there. So there's just a whole ton of stuff that you can do for these people. And it's so bad. It is so valuable. It takes years to build up that account. Years to put that pixel in place. And our friend here, he had done precisely that. Then he found that his account had been compromised. And that is a terrible thing in this case because the bad guy used his account to place ads. So now there are really two or three problems here. We'll talk about one of them. Why was the bad guy going after him? He has been running ads on Facebook for a long time. So as far as Facebook is concerned, his account is credible. All of the ads he runs don't have to be reviewed by a human being. They can go up almost immediately. He doesn't have to wait days for some of these things to go up. So our bad guy can get an account like his that has years' worth of advertising credibility and now start advertising things that are not correct. So there again is part of the value of having one of these older accounts for advertising. And so the bad guy did that use his credibility. And then secondly, he used 25 grand worth of my friend's money to run ads. Also, of course, very bad, very bad. So I sat down with him. In fact, it was this last week, and I was out on a trip with just a vacation trip. It was absolutely fantastic. I never just do vacation. It's always business plus work whenever I do anything like this, but I was on a trip last week. And so my eldest son who works closely with me, and he's also part of the FBI InfraGard program. So I had him reach out to my friend, and he helped them out, and they talked back and forth. So here's the problem that he has. And I'm trying to figure out a perfect way to solve this. And I haven't figured that out yet. And if you guys have an idea because you are the best and brightest, you really are. So go ahead and drop me an email at me@craigpeterson.com if a good way around this particular problem, which is he has. This Facebook could count and many other accounts, including his website, hosting account, email account, et cetera. And. He has people who manage his ads for him. Who operates his website for him, who put up some promotions, advertising, and everything else. So these are third-party. This is what we generically call a supply chain, risk people who are not him have access to his stuff, his private property. And how does he do it, or how did he do it? Is he went ahead and gave them. Access by giving them accounts or passwords. How well were they guarding their passwords and their accounts? So the first thing I had my friend do was going to haveIbeenpwned.com. I had him put in his email address, the one he uses the most, and it showed up in five different. Hacks data dumps. So these are five various sites where he had used that same email address in this case. And he found out that in those five cases, the bad guy's got his passwords and personal information. All bad. And he went ahead and cleaned it up. So I said put in the password because have I been, pwned also let you check your password, just see if it has been used by someone else and then stolen. So there are billions of passwords in this database. It's incredible of all of these known passwords. So he put in his password, and no, it had not been stolen, but the problem is how about the people that were managing his ads on Facebook and managing his Facebook ad. We're the usernames, which are typically the email addresses and the passwords kept securely. That's a supply chain thing I'm talking about, and that's where I'd love to get him. But from you guys, me@craigpeterson.com. If you think you have a good answer, What we've been doing. And our advice to him was use one password. That's the only one to use. I don't trust last pass anymore. After their last big hack where they got hacked one password, the digit one password. And go ahead. And set it up. And in a business scenario, you can have multiple vaults. So have a vault. That's just for people that are dealing with your Facebook ad account, maybe have another vault for people who are posting for you on Facebook. Or better yet when it comes to Facebook, go ahead and have an intermediary that is trusted the, if this, then that, or there's a few of them out there that can see that you put the post up on the website and automatically posted on Facebook. So you don't have to get. All of these people, your passwords, but again, it's up to you. You got to figure out if that makes sense to you that those are the types of things that I think you can do. And that is what we do as well. Now, one of the beauties of using one password like that, where you're not sharing all of your passwords to everything you're sharing, the minimum amount of login information that you possibly can share is that if they leave your employees, All you have to do is remove their access to the appropriate vault or vaults, or maybe all of your vaults. And this is what I've done with people that worked for me in the US and people would work for me overseas, and there have been a lot of them and it has worked quite well for me. So with one pass, We can enforce password integrity. We can make sure the passwords on stolen. One password ties automatically into have I been postponed. If a password has been exposed, if it's been stolen online, it's a great way to go. Now I've got an offer for you guys who are listening. I have a special report that I've sold before on passwords, and it goes through talks about one password. He talks about the last pass, which I'm no longer really recommending, but give some comparisons and how you can use these things. Make sure you go and email me right now. Me, Me@craigpeterson.com. That's ME at Craig Peterson dot com and just ask me for the password special report, and I'll be glad to get that on-off to you. There is a lot of good detail in there and helps you, whether you're a home user or a business. So the next step in your security is multi-factor authentication. Interesting study out saying that about 75% of people say that they've used it for work or for business, but the hard numbers, I don't think they agree One of the things that you have to do is use good passwords. And the best way to do that is to use a password manager. I was talking about a friend of mine who had been hacked this last week and his account was hacked. His Facebook ad account was hacked. We asked him if we could reach out to. BI and he said, sure. So we checked with the FBI and they're looking to turn this into a case, a real case, because they've never seen this type of thing, the hijacking of an advertising account who hijacked it. And why did they hide jacket? Was this in preparation maybe for. Playing around with manipulating our next election cycle coming up. There could be a lot of things that they're planning on doing and taking over my friend's account would be a great way to have done it. So maybe they're going to do other things here. And our friends at the FBI are looking into it. How now do you also keep your data safe? Easily simply. When we're talking about these types of accounts, the thing to look at is known as two factor authentication or multifactor authentication. You see my friend, if he had been using multi-factor authentication. I would not have been vulnerable. Even if the bad guys had his username, email address and his password, they still would not be able to log in without having that little six-digit code. That's the best way to do multi-factor authentication. When we're talking about this code, whether it's four or 5, 6, 8 digits long, we should not be using our cell phones to receive those. At least not as text messages, those have a problem because our phone numbers can be stolen from us and they are stolen from us. So if we're a real target, in other words, they're going after you. Joe Smith and they know you have some, $2 million in your account. So they're going after you while they can, in most cases, take control of your phone. Now you might not know it and it doesn't have to be hacked. All they have to do is have the phone company move your phone number to a new phone. Once. So that means one of the things you need to do is contact your telephone vendor, whoever it is, who's providing new that service. That's a company like Verizon sprint T-Mobile a T and Tone of those companies that are giving you cell service, you have to contact them and set up a pass. So that if they have a phone call coming in and that phone call can be faked. So it looks like it's coming from your phone, even if there was a phone call coming in, whether it's coming from your phone or not, they have to get that password or passcode that you gave them. And once they have that passcode now, and that's great, but if you don't have that in there targeting you specifically, then you're in trouble. So for many of us really it may not make a huge difference. But I would do it anyways. I have done it with every one of my cell phone carriers now. A couple of decades set up a password. So the next step is this multifactor authentication. If I'm not supposed to get it via text message to my phone, how do I get it? There are a couple of apps out there. There's a free one called Google authentic. And Google authenticator runs on your phone. And once it's there on your phone and you are setting it up on a website, so Facebook, for instance, your bank, most websites out there, the bigger ones, all you have to do is say, I want to set up multi-factor authentication, and then it'll ask you a case. So how do you want to do it? And you can say, I want an app and they will display. A Q R code. That's one of those square codes with a bunch of little lines inside of it. You're seeing QR codes before they become very common. And you take your phone with the Google authenticator app. Take a picture. Of that little QR code on the screen, and now it will start sinking up so that every 30 seconds Google authenticator on your phone will change that number. So when you need to log back into that website, it's going to ask you for the code. You just pull up Google authenticator and there's the code. So that's the freeway to do it. And not necessarily the easiest way to. Again, going back to one password. I use this thing exclusively. It is phenomenal for keeping my passwords, keeping them all straight and then encrypted vault, actually in multiple encrypted vault it's so that I can share some of them. Some of them are just strictly private, but it also has that same authenticator functionality built right into it. Microsoft has its own authenticator, but you can tell Microsoft that you want to use the standard authenticator. Of course, Microsoft has to do everything differently. But you can tell it. And I do tell it, I want to use a regular authenticator app, not Microsoft authenticator. By the way. That's why I advise you to don't use the Microsoft authenticator, just use one authenticator for all of the sites, and then Microsoft will give you that same QR code. And then you can take that picture and you're off and running. Next time you log in, it asks you for the code and instead of texting it to you to your phone smarter, otherwise it will not. That require you to open up your authenticator. So for me, for instance, when I'm logging into a website, it comes up and asks for the username, asked for the password. Both of those are filled out automatically by one password for me. And then it asks for that code identification code and. One password automatically puts it into my pace to buffer copy-paste, buffer, and I just paste it in and they've got the code. So I don't have to remember the codes. I don't remember passwords. I don't have to remember usernames or email addresses. One password remembers them all for me. Plus it'll remember notes and other things. So you can tell, I really one password. We use it with all of our clients. That's what we have for them. And it does meet even a lot of these DOD requirement on top of. Depending again, how much security you need. We will use duo D U O and it also has this authenticator functionality and we will also use UBI keys. These are those hardware key. They do oh, can provide you with hardware tokens. Those are those little tokens that can go onto your key ring. That show a changing six-digit number every 30 seconds. And that's the same number that would be there in your smartphone app. Your one password or Google authenticator smartphone. Hopefully, I didn't confuse you too much. I think most of the reason we're not using the security we should is because we're not sure how to, and we don't know what we're going to be. And I can see that being a big problem. So if you have questions about any of this, if you would like a copy of my password security, special report, just send an email to me. M e@craigpeterson.com. That's me M e@craigpeterson.com. That's S O N.com. I'll be glad to send it to you. Also, if you sign up for my newsletter there on my website@craigpeterson.com, you are going to get. I was hold little series of the special reports to help you out, get you going. And then every week I send out a little bit of training and all of my articles for the week. It's usually six to 10 articles that I consider to be important so that, what's going on in the cybersecurity world. So you can. With it for yourself, for your family, for your business. Craig peterson.com. According to researchers. 32% of teen girls said that when they felt bad about their bodies, Instagram made them feel worse. And you know what Facebook knew and knows Instagram is toxic for teen girls. There's a great article that came out in the Wall Street Journal. And I'm going to read just a little bit here from some of the quotes first. When I went on Instagram, all I saw were images of chiseled bodies, perfect. Abs and women doing 100 burpees in 10 minutes, said, Ms.  Now 18, who lives in Western Virginia. Amazing. Isn't it. The one that I opened now with 32% of teen girls said that when they felt bad about their bodies, Instagram, I made them feel worse. So that is studies again, that looks like yeah, these were researchers inside Instagram and they said this in a March, 2020 slide presentation that was posted to Facebook's internal message board that was reviewed by the wall street journal quote comparisons on Instagram can change how young women view and describe themselves. Apparently, for the past three years, Facebook has been conducting studies into how Instagram is affecting its millions of young users. Now, for those of you who don't know what Instagram is, it allows these users to create little stories, to have. Pictures videos of things that they're doing, and it's a lifestyle type thing you might've heard, of course, of how this I don't know what it is. Kidnapping murder plot. These, this young couple and the body I think was found up in Wyoming. I'm trying to remember, but of her and it's yeah, there it is. It wasn't my OMI. And I'm looking up right now, Gabby potato. That's who it is. She was what they called a micro influence. And I know a lot of people who can loom, that's what they want to be. There's a young lady that stayed with us for a few months. She had no other place to live. And so we invited her in here and we got some interesting stories to tell about that experience. And it's, a little sad, but anyhow, she got back up on her feet and then she decided she was going to become an influence. And what an influencer is someone that has a lot of followers. And of course, a lot means different numbers. You get these massive influencers that have tens of millions of people that quote, follow unquote them. And of course, just think of the Kardashians they're famous for. Being famous, nothing else. They have subsequently done some pretty amazing things. At least a few of them have. We've got one of those daughters who now was the first earliest billionaire. I think it was ever youngest. So they have accomplished some amazing things after the fact, but they got started. By just becoming famous by posting on these social media sites. So you get a micro-influencer, like Gabby Petito, who is out there posting things and pictures. And you look at all of these pictures and, oh my gosh, they're up at this national park. Oh, isn't she so cute. I'll look at her boyfriend. They'll look so good together and people. Fall for that image, right? It's just like Photoshopping these pictures of models, changing them. There've been some real complaints about those over the years. So Instagram sets these kids up with these pictures of people that are just totally unrealistic. One of the slides from a 2019 presentation says, quote, we make body. Excuse me. We make body image issues worse for one in three teenage girls teams, blame Instagram for increases in the rate of anxiety. And depression said another slide. This reaction was unprompted and consistent across. Groups among teens is this according to the wall street journal who reported suicidal thoughts, 13% of British users, and 6% of American users trace the desire to kill themselves to Instagram. Again, according to one of these presentations, isn't this just absolutely amazing. And you might've heard it discussed a little bit. I saw some articles about it, obviously in the news wall street journal had it, but this is a $100 billion company, Instagram. That's what their annual revenues. More than 40% of Instagram users are 22 years old and younger. And about 22 million teens log into Instagram in the US each day, compared with 5 million that log into Facebook, the younger users have been declining. Facebook it's getting the population there is getting older and older on Facebook. In average teens in the us spend 50% more time on Instagram than they do on Facebook. And also tick-tock, by the way I took talk has now surpassed YouTube in some of these metrics. Quote, Instagram is well-positioned to resonate and win with young people said a researcher's slide posted internally. Inside Facebook. Another post said there is a path to growth. If Instagram can continue their trajectory. Amazing. So Facebook's public phase has really tried to downplay all of these negative effects that the Instagram app has on teens, particularly girls, and hasn't made its research public or available to academics or lawmakers who have asked for it. Quote, the research that we've seen is that using social apps to connect with other people. Positive mental health benefits said Mark Zuckerberg. He's the CEO of course of Facebook. Now this was 2020. In March one at a congressional hearing, he was asked about children and mental health. So you see how he really lawyered the words that they can have positive mental health benefits, but Facebook's own internal research seems to show that they know it has a profound negative effect on a large percentage of their users. Instagram had Adam Moseri told reporters in may of this year, that research he had seen suggest the app's effect on team's wellbeing is likely quote quite small. So what the wall street journal seems to be pointing out here is that Facebook is not giving us the truth on any of this stuff. It's really sad. We've got to be careful. No, apparently Mr. Moseri also said that he's been pushing very hard for Facebook to really take their responsibilities more broadly. He says they're proud of this research. I'm just summarizing this before we run out of time here, but it shows the document. Internal documents on Facebook show that they are having a major impact on teen, mental health, political discourse, and even human trafficking. These, this internal research offers an unparalleled picture. Courtney told the wall street journal of how Facebook is acutely aware that the products and systems central to its business success routine. Fail great article. I've got it in this week's newsletter. You can just open it up and click through on the link to the wall street journal. They have a paywall and I hate to use payroll articles, but this one's well worth it. And they do give you some free articles every month. So if you're not on that newsletter, you can sign up right now. Craig peterson.com. You'll get the next one. If you miss a link today, if you want some, the special report on passwords, et cetera, just email me directly. Give me a few days to respond. But me M e@craigpeterson.com. That's me M e@craigpeterson.com. We've all worked from home from time to time. At least if we're somehow in the information it industry, I want to talk right now about why you need a personal laptop. Even if the business is providing you with a laptop. Laptops are something that was designed to be personal, but many of us are using them as our main computer. I know I often am using my laptop, a couple of my kids and my wife. It's really their main computer, even though they all have other computers that they could potentially be using, laptops are just handy and you have them with, you can take them with you. We've got workstation set up that are kind of. Workstations, if you will, where there are three screens set up and they're all hooked up into one central screen controller that then has a USBC connection that goes right into the, your laptop. So you can be sitting there with four screens on your Mac laptop on your mac pro if you need four screens, it's really handy. No question. Many of us have a laptop for home and a laptop for business. And many of us also look at it and say, oh wow, this is a great laptop I got from work. It's much better than my home laptop. And you start to use the business laptop for work. At home. Okay. That's what it's for. Right. But then we start to use that business laptop for personal stuff. That's where the problems start. We've seen surveys out there that are shown. Then half of workers are using work issue devices for personal tasks that might be doing it at home. They might be doing it at the office. Things like personal messages, shopping, online, social media, reading the news. So the prospect of using your work laptop as your only laptop, not just for work, but also for maybe watching some movies, group chat and messaging, reading, fan fiction, paying bills, emailing to family or friend. It just seems not. It's so tempting. It's just natural. I'm on it. I'm on it all day long. Why wouldn't I just use it? And this is particularly true for people who are working from home, but we have to be careful with that. It's really something that you shouldn't be doing for a couple of reasons. One that. Top that's a business. Laptop is the property of the business. It's just like walking home with boxes, full of pencils and paperback in the old days, it is not yours to use for personal use. We also have to assume, assume since it is the company's laptop that hopefully it's been secure. Hopefully they haven't set up. So it's going through a special VPN at the office and it's going through special filters, maybe snort filters or something else. That's doing some deeper inspection on what's coming through your laptop. Well, there are also likely on that laptop. Tools that are monitoring your device. Things like key loggers, biometric tracking, Jill location, software that tracks your web browser and social media behavior, screenshot, snapshot software, maybe even your cam. Is being used to keep track of you. I know a number of the websites that I've used in the past to hire temporary workers. Those workers have to agree to have you monitor what they're doing. These hourly workers, subtle take screenshots of their screen, unbeknownst to them. Pictures from the cameras at random intervals. Again, unbeknownst to them, it'll track what they're doing. And so I can now go in and say, okay, well he billed me five hours for doing this. And I look at his screen and guess what? He wasn't doing that for all of those five hours that he just billed me. Well, the same thing could be true for your company, even if you're not paid by the hour. Right now, we're looking at stats that show over half of the businesses that are providing laptops for the employees to use more than half of them are using monitoring software. And through this whole lockdown, the usage of these different types of monitoring systems has grown. Now there's some of the programs you're using. You might be VPN in, you might be using slack or G suite enterprise, all good little pieces of software. They can monitor that obviously, but it goes all the way through to the business. And using your slack access as paid for, by the businesses also idiotic to do things like send messages to your buddies, set up drinks after work, complain to other people about someone else in the business, your boss, or otherwise your it, people at the business can see all of that. They can see what you're doing with slack. Even if you have a separate personal account. It's still more likely that you'll end up mixing them up if you're logged into both on the same computer. So the bottom line is if you are on a work computer, whether it's a laptop or something else, you can reasonably assume that I T can see everything. That's not. They own it. Okay. And they have to do some of this stuff to protect themselves. We put software on laptops for companies not to spy on employees. That's none of our business, but we put software on computers for employees. To make sure they stay safe. Think of what happens when your computer, your laptop, whatever it might be, connects to the company's network. Now that can be through a VPN. It can be because you take your laptop home or on the road when you're traveling and you bring it back into the office. If that computer is infected, somehow now you've brought that infection into the office. And that's how a lot of the malware works. It goes from computer to computer. So once they get in that front door where there's through a website and email that you clicked on or in a computer that you're bringing into the office, they can start to move around. Now it's not just your activity. And this is an interesting article from the verge by Monica chin. It's not just your activity that they can see on your laptop, but in many cases, they're also able to look at anything you're downloading any of your photographs or videos that you might've sinked up from your smart. Laura loading these types of things, your text messages on your work device for safekeeping, or just because it's your primary device might seem harmless, right? Cause you're just going to remove them before you hand it in. But some companies such as Apple won't allow you to wipe your device before handing it in regardless of how personal the contents are. And that makes sense too, because many times an employee leaves. And they don't give the company all of the information that they have, that they're obliged to give back to their employer. Things that they've been working on, customer information, et cetera. So Manalive, there are plenty of other devices out there. Hopefully if you leave your company with plenty of notice, moving a bunch of things off your work device in the last few days, uh, might raise some eyebrows at the. And I'm saying hopefully, because they should notice that sort of thing, because it could be malicious activity. It could be an insider risk that maybe they're not even aware of. There's so much you could go wrong here. So bottom line don't use the work laptop for home. So what should you use? You know, my personal recommendation. Almost always is get a Mac. They are safer to use the patches that they get are usually not destructive. You know, sometimes you can install a patch for windows and now your machine just won't work anymore. Right. You've had that happen. I know every last one of us out there that are tried to install Microsoft patches for a while have had that happen to them. All of a sudden the patch has completely messed up your computer and you are so out of luck, it's ridiculous. Right? So don't, you know, hopefully don't do that, but I like the max because they are basically safer than windows. And also because the patches just work on them, apple tends to get them out in plenty of time to try and protect us the next level. If he can't afford an apple and. Apple laptops really are not expensive when you consider how long they last and the quality that components, they are not expensive at all. But if you can't afford that, the next thing I would look at is getting a Chromebook. There are a lot of companies that make Chromebooks Chrome is an operating system from Google. It's similar to Android. Google keeps the Chromebooks up-to-date. They patch them quite regularly and make sure that there aren't nastiness is going on. You just have some of the same issues and Android has patches might take a while to get to you because it has to go through the vendor that made the Chromebook. You might have a Chromebook for Sam from Samsung, for instance, it's not Google's even though it's called a Google Chromebook. Now Chromebooks rely heavily on the cloud services that Google provides, but they can also run just locally. So with a Chromebook and you can get them for as little as 150 bucks, but remember you get what you pay for. Or as much as I've seen them in the $2,000 price range with fancy GPU's, local storage and other things, but at 150 bucks, it could be well worth it for you. It lets you do the regular word processing. Just think of what you can do with Google docs, spreadsheets against Google docs, spreadsheets, all of those types of things are built into it. You can. Cruz the web, obviously using Google Chrome on your Chromebook. And send and receive email, which is what most people do. That's really kind of all, most people do at home. So consider that as well. I also like iPad. They are quite safe again, but they tend to be more expensive and they can do pretty much everything. And now with Android support built right into Google Chromebooks, you can even run Android apps. So there you go. Keep safe and be safe out there. Right. Have a hack free life. Make sure you get my newsletter. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. The national cyber director, Chris Inglis said that we need cyber bullets, that cyber bullets are part of the war on hacks. And it makes sense on one level. But when you get into the reality, it's a much different story..  I had an interesting email this week from a listener. Actually he sent it about two weeks ago when I finally was able to get to it this week and responded, and he was pointing out how there are some things that I talk about on the show that I put into my newsletter that are really good. And. I'm paraphrasing here but theoretical to so many people, there's some things that you can figure out pretty easily yourself. Some things you can do yourselves and other things that are just different. To do still. And a lot of that has to do with the websites you go to in order to maintain your passwords. And he was complaining specifically about bank of America and how you can, according to what he has found here in the real world, you can come up with a. Password a 20 character long password that is going to keep everything nice and safe at trend to be generated. You're using one password and great. So you set your password up in bank of America's account, and then you try and log in later, and it doesn't work because it lets you put 20 character passwords and when you're creating it, yeah. But the login screen only takes the first 16. So of course they'd home match. You see it's things like that really are pushing us back, holding us back. But I'd say pushing us back from being secure as a country, there, there just aren't enough people paying enough attention to make sure this cyber security, even the basic stuff like passwords and two factor authentication are being done properly. So one of the things I wanted to make sure you guys were aware of is I need to know when you're having these problems, because what I want to do is put together some trainings to show you exactly how to do it. Because on some websites you were saying, it's pretty hard to use one password he's paying for it, but it's kinda difficult for him. And I think in some ways, a lack of understanding. Then, it can be difficult to spend a bunch of time trying to watch some training videos for some of the software. And so I want to hear when you're having problems so I can do what I did for him this week and spend a little time, write some stuff up, and I even am reaching out to some of this website. People like bank of America who are really messing up cyber security for people who are trying to do the right thing and writing them and saying, Hey, listen, I'm part of the FBI InfraGard program. I'm a member of it. I paid a lot of attention to cybersecurity. Heck I ran the training for the FBI InfraGard program for a couple of years, and there are some real things lacking. In the login anyways, and this one particular case of the cybersecurity, but I don't know all of this stuff. I'm not using all of these things and I have a disadvantage over you guys, and that is that I've been doing this for so long. I've forgotten what it's like to not know it. Does that make sense? So if you have something that I've talked about on the show, that's appeared in my newsletter and you're having some confusion over, let me know. Just email me M e@craigpeterson.com. What he did is he just hit reply to my newsletter. And of course, that goes to me and me@gregpeterson.com and it tracks it. So I know I need to reply, so I can sit down and go through and answer people's questions. I sent out a lot of the copies of my password, special report to people you guys had requested specifically some of the. People out there had requested a little bit of help. And I had sent out an email to most of the people that I could identify as being business people. I sent out a little thing saying, Hey, listen, if you could use half-hour my help, let me know myself or my team. And then, again, you can just send me an E Craig. So I answered a lot of those questions this week. And in fact, that's how I come up with much of what I cover here on the show. You guys ask the questions and that's how I know that it's a real problem. If I understand it, that's one thing. But for the people who don't do cybersecurity as their primary job or a strategy, I get it. I can get why you guys are confused. So make sure you get my weekly newsletter. So you can find out about all of the trainings, the free stuff, the paid courses, and. It's easy. Just go to Craig peterson.com/subscribe. That's Craig Peterson, P E T E R S O N. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. And I'm more than glad. Add you to that list. And there are now thousands of people on that list to get my email pretty much every week. If you miss it one week, it's probably, cause I just got too busy, but I put out all my show notes. I put it all a little bit of training notes, all. The us government is supposedly getting ready to fire what they're calling cyber bullets in response to these significant hacking attacks. This is what they're calling a comprehensive strategy to dissuade. Adversaries. And this is all from the national cyber security director, Chris Inglis. This is from an article in American military news.com by Chris Strome. That was out this week. And of course I included that in my newsletter this week as well, coming out. Today or tomorrow, depends on how this all goes right with the weekend. I got to help a buddy out today, but president Joe Biden has been really talking about how do we use cyber weapons to retaliate. For instance, he gave a list of industries that Russia should not be. As though Putin himself is running all of these hacks or come out of Russia. Yeah, certainly there are some that are part of their military, but there many of them that are just bad guys that are trying to make some money, we should feel sorry for them. So Biden gives him this list and says, Hey, listen, if you attack any of these various industries or actually portions of our economy, We are going to retaliate. We have seen the us retaliate under President Trump and the retaliation. Of course he did all kinds of economic stuff to stop it. And much of which has been reversed by president Biden's administration, but also he attacked them directly in. Down some power systems there in the Moscow area, which I thought was really kinda cool. So kudos to President Trump for doing that and for president and Biden now to say, Hey, we are going to attack back. Of course. The biggest question is. What would we be attacking? How would we be attacking it? And for what reason, for instance, the red Chinese have gone after our office of personnel management, OPM records and got them all back in 2015. So they now know everything about everybody that had a secret security clearance or the took a paycheck from the federal government. All of those records, they would get their hands on them and get them on all of the records a lot. So Inglis was in front of the let's see here, the, yeah, he was a former director of the national security agency. He's the first to hold his Senate-confirmed position at the white house, this national cyber director position. And he says there is a sense that we can perhaps fire some cyber bullets and shoot our way out of this English set at the conference. It was hosted by the way, by the national security agency and a nonprofit group, he said that will be useful in certain circumstances. If you had a clear shot at a cyber aggressor and I can take them offline, I would advise that we do so as long as the collateral effects are acceptable. Yeah. What we have done here under president Biden administration is we have shut down some people who were operating illegally, we have shut down some cyber actors that were attacking us. So we've been doing that, but it isn't exactly. Wow. We just saw a muzzle flash over there. And so we are returning fire to the area of that muzzle flash, because as I've said many times before, we just don't know. Where in fact that bullet is coming from, it makes it a lot more difficult. English went on to say there's a larger set of initiatives that have to be undertaken. Not one of those elements is going to be sufficient to take this. Out let's see here, the us should make clear to Russia now their adversaries, what kinds of attacks would prompt a response, which is what president Biden did when he was talking with, of course, President Putin over there, red lines of both good and bad red lines are clear and crisp. Although I got to say many of our administrations have. Really done anything about it. It's the red line in the sand and Syria president Obama didn't do anything when they stepped over that red line. So yeah. And then with what we just finished doing in Afghanistan, where we drew a red line and said, we're going to protect all of you who helped us. And then we not only abandoned them, but we abandoned Americans behind there. I don't think a lot of people aren't going to believe us. So here's the last statement here. And again, this is an article in American military news from our cyber chief is the government actions. Aren't always going to be broadcast. In some cases, it's not helpful to broadcast those for all of mankind to see another one. We are doing some things behind the scenes. And I have certainly seen some of the results of those over the last few years. Stick around.  You're listening to Craig Peterson online@craigpeterson.com. You've got a smartphone and there are some new versions out, right? New hardware, new software, Android iOS. How long should you keep that device? How long can you stay safe with that older device? Apple has now done something. Different something they've never done before. One of the reasons that apple equipment tends to be safer than almost anything else out there is that they have, what's known as a closed ecosystem. There's arguments both directions here on whether that's safer or not. But the real advantage when it comes to cybersecurity is there are only. So many versions of the iPhone out there. What are we now in a couple of dozen versions of the hardware platform that makes it easier for apple to be able to support older versions of the software and multiple pieces of hardware, much easier than for, let's say Microsoft windows. It doesn't even have a single. Platform or Android, where there are hundreds of hardware platforms out there and tens of thousands of versions of the hardware, because one model phone can contain many. Changes different types of hardware to talk to the cell towers or the screen you name it. So it's very hard to keep up. Android has for quite a while now supported three versions of their operating system. Of course, we're talking about Google, but Android operating system. So they support the current release. Of Android and the Breviary release is two previous releases in fact of Android. Now that is frankly a pretty good thing to know, but there's over a billion Android devices out there that are no longer supported by security updates. We've got Android 10, nine, and eight that are fairly supported right now. We're actually up to Android 12. So here's how it works. If you've got Android version 10 out, if that's the main one, then you can continue to do. Eight and nine and get updates, security updates. But then here's the problem, everybody, those security updates are coming out of Google, but that does not mean that they are making it all the way to you. So there you go. It's one thing for Google to provide updates, but if you can't get them because your phone manufacturer is not supporting them, you've got trouble Samsung. Is probably the best company other than maybe Google and the Google Pixel phone. Samsung's the best company to go to. If you want some longer-term support. Many of these other companies just don't provide support past the current version. So keep that in mind as well. Android 12 was the 12th major version of Android announced by Google, February, 2021. And it is starting to roll out a Android. The 11th, 11 is the one that was out in February of last year. At least it was announced then. And we're, they're coming out, they're getting pushed out. So basically Google is saying the current version plus two prior versions. And that usually gives you about a four or maybe even a five year window. So if you're. An Android device from a major manufacturer, particularly Samsung on the Android side, your device is going to be good for at least four years, maybe five years now on the, and by the way, you don't necessarily have to upgrade the. You could be continuing to run an older release saw, as I mentioned earlier, if it version 11 is the current one that's out there being supported, which it is right. 12 is early still, but version 11, that means two prior versions still get security updates. You don't get featured. Dates, you don't get the new stuff, but you get security updates. So Android 11, the current one that means 10 and nine get security updates. So you don't, you're not being forced to do an upgrade. Most people don't upgrade their phones from an older major release to a newer major release. In other words, they don't try and go from Android eight to Android 11. Because in fact, most of the time, the hardware manufacturer doesn't support it. That's why there's over a billion Android devices out there right now that cannot get security updates. So have a look at your phone and your vendors. See what you're running. You probably want to do an update because most phones cannot get any support on the, in the apple side. Things are a lot different with Apple iOS, which is the operating system used on the iPhone and the I pad apple has always forced you to move to the next major version. No, they only force you to do that. If they support the hardware. And I've got to say kudos to them, they're still supporting the iPhone six S which came out quite a while. The iPhone success is something that my wife has been using and that I had as well. In fact, she got my old iPhone success, but that's a six-year-old. Phone came out in September of 2015. So it is still getting security updates, and we'll probably continue to get them. Not only is it getting security update this six-year-old iPhone success is getting the latest and our iOS operating system. It's getting iOS 15. Isn't that just amazing? Yeah, exactly. And so not just security updates, like you might get from some of the other vendors out there, Android vendors. So the apple keeps their arms around you for quite a while. Here's, what's changed now with Apple and iOS, the, for the first time ever in the iOS world, Apple is not forcing you to upgrade. So you're not being forced to upgrade to iOS 15. You can continue to run iOS 14. And that's how apples got around the security patches in the past, because what happens is you get the updates and installs them. Basically. There's no reason for you not to upgrade your phone. And so you do so apple never had to worry about releasing some of these fixes for really old versions of iOS. Although they have done that from time to time. In the Mac iOS side, Apple has done a couple of good things. The, where they always have supported basically three releases, what Google's doing with Android. So you now have a new feature. If you will, with iOS, here's a PSA for everyone. Public service announcement. You don't have to take the iOS 15 upgrade. Now I did. I put it on my iPhone and I seem to have some sort of a problem with messages where it's telling people that my phone has notifications turned off, which it does not. So I haven't figured that one out yet. I'll have to look into that a little bit more, but. This is nice because that means you're not going to have to upgrade your iPhone to iOS 15. You'll still get security updates for iOS 14, something Apple's never done before. We'll see if they continue this. We will see if they match Google going back. Three releases in Android. It just never been done before over on the iOS. So good news for them. Also course in the windows world and the Mac world, you really should upgrade the operating system as much as you can. Windows 11 though, man, windows 11. And I said this to my newsletter. I warned you guys is going to be a nightmare. For many people. You are not going to be able to do an automatic upgrade unless you have the newest of hardware, with the highest end of features, Craig peterson.com. One of the very big ransomware operations is back online. And now we have some inside information from one of the contractors working for this ransomware organization and oh yeah, there's an FBI tie, too.. This organization, ransomware gang, almost business, whatever you might want to describe them as is known as revolt. They have a few other names, but that's the really big one. And they are basically the 800 pound gorilla in the ransom. Business, you might be using cloud services right now. Maybe you use Microsoft's email service. Their Microsoft 360, I think, is what they call it now and use it for email and various other things pretty handy. It's mostly in the cloud. Computers you own or operate or have to maintain. I think that makes some sense too, but here's the bottom line it's software as a service right now, salesforce.com software as a service, Oracle has their accounting stuff. QuickBooks online, all software as a service. It isn't just those legitimate businesses that I just mentioned. That are using the cloud that are providing software as a service where you're paying monthly or however frequently. And you're getting this software as a service. That's what that means. Typically it means it's in the cloud and you don't have any real control over it. That's what this ransomware gang has been doing. This gang known as rebill. They all appear to be in. And there's some interesting stuff. That's come out. A transcript was released of an interview with one of their contractors. Now the original interview was in Russian. So I read through a translation of the Russian. I have no idea how good it is, but it is being quoted by a bank. Insider magazine that you might be familiar with bank info, security. That's one of the places that I follow. And there's a few interesting things that he talked about that I want to get into, but these are the people who have been behind things like the colonial pipeline attack and some of the other very large attacks, the way they work, their business model is. You can license their software, their ransomware software, and you go after a business or a government agency, whatever it might be, you get that ransomware software inside. And the reveal gang will take a percentage of the money that you have in rent. Now, how is that for a, an interesting business model, right? Taking something that the rest of the world has been using, and then take that model and put it into the legal side of the world. For three weeks, during this whole reveal ransomware attack, this summer turns out that the FBI secretly withheld the key that could have been used to decrypt. And computers that reveal had infected with ransomware and looks like kids up to maybe 1500 networks. Now those are networks, not just computers. That includes networks run by hospitals, schools, and businesses, including critical infrastructure businesses. The way the FBI got their hands on this decryption game. Is by penetrating reveal gangs servers. So they got into it. They were able to grab the keys and then the FBI waited before. Did anything with it. See, what they were trying to do is catch the people behind reveal. And so they didn't want to release information, get information out there to the press that might tip off those bad guys over there in Russia. And then shut down their operations. But as you might know, because I mentioned it here before the reveal gang went offline on July 13th, before the FBI could really track them down. And then the FBI didn't release the key until July 21st. And then I think it was Malwarebytes released a decryption tool. So if you had been hacked by the gang, you could. Now, remember it isn't reveal itself. That's doing most of them. Ransomware hacking if you will or a placement it's small guys. And that's why some people, including this contractor that apparently worked for the reveal gang itself says, people think that it's the Russian government, that it's Putin, that's doing this. He said, in fact, it's not it's small guys. And people like me are getting four or five hours a night. Because we're working so hard trying to make a whole of this work, come up with the new software approaches. We have to provide code tech support unquote to our affiliates, as well as tech support to the people who have had their computers and their data ransomed. So it a real interesting mix. Absolutely. Interesting mix. Now Christopher Ray here a couple of weeks ago, he's the FBI director told Congress that cool. We make these decisions as a group, not unilaterally. To the FBI and working with other government agencies, these are complex decisions designed to create maximum impact. And that takes time and going against adversaries, where we have to marshal resources, not just around the. But all over the world. So this Russian based gang first appeared in 2019, they've been around, they've been exporting large amounts of money from businesses for a very long time. One of the interest he'd things I think about all of this is that this reveal gang has their software as a service, and they provide it to quote affiliates, quote that, go ahead and then install the software, get you to install it on your computers in order to ransom you a double whammy ransom you, but there's now reports out there that there's a secret back door in the ransomwares code that allow. Rebill to go around their affiliates and steal the proceeds. How's that for hilarious, you've got a bad guy who goes in and gets the software from revolt, pays them a commission, and then reveal apparently has been jumping in on these customer support chats. In other words, you just got nailed and because you got nailed with ransomware, you have to go to. Chat room. And so you go in there and you're getting customer support on how to buy Bitcoin and how to transfer to their wallet. And apparently revival is getting right in the middle and is extorting money from these people directly instead of having the affiliates do it pretty amazing. So here's this part of this interview? It was aired on the Russian news outlet, London. And was trans translated by yeah. Flashpoint. Here are the guys that got the full transcript of the interview. He says in the normal world, I was called a contractor, doing some tasks for many ransomware collectives that journalists considered to be famous. Money is stolen or extorted with my hands, but I'm not ashamed of it. I do. And again, this goes into the thinking of many of these bad guys of Americans are all rich and they don't deserve what they have. He said, let's put it this way. This is a very time consuming job. And if you've earned enough, then you can quit the game. But chronic fatigue, burnout, deadline. All of these words from the life of ordinary office workers are also relevant for malware developers. So there you go. You should feel sorry for these malware developers who are developing software to steal millions from you and. Down our critical infrastructure. Hey, join me online. Craig peterson.com. And if you subscribe to my weekly newsletter right there on the site, I'll send you a few of my special reports. The most popular ones will come to you right there in your email box. Craig peterson.com/subscribe. We all pretty much have some form of insurance. And we're going to talk right now about the types of cyber insurance you may have. Now this might be through your homeowners policy or perhaps a rider on a business policy.  Many of our homeowners policies have started coming with cyber insurance. So we're going to talk about that. What is it? Businesses as well are also using cyber insurance and I'm sure you've heard of insurance basically called LifeLock and what that's all about. So let's kind of start. When we have a breach in a business, usually what happens is information about our customers is stolen. Look at some of the biggest breaches in history where we. Hundreds of millions of our personal records stolen Equifax breach is an example of a huge breach where we had all kinds of personal information that was stolen by the bad guys. Now, some of this information gets stale pretty quickly, but of course, other parts of it like our address, our social security number, they are probably not going to change for years. If for. No, of course our social security number will never change the social security administration. Just doesn't reissue them for very many reasons at all. And they do not reissue a social security number was stolen online because. Just about everybody's has, so what does a company like LifeLock do? They keep an eye on your credit report for you. And they're looking at what's going on new accounts that are open. They look at various other things, just related to that. And they, at that point say, wait a minute, something weird is happening. Now my credit cards, for instance, I have a credit card that if let's say I buy two of the same thing, one after the other and the, both the same price that credit card company pops a message right up on my phone saying, Hey, did you just buy two? Of these $15 things from and I can say yes or no, if I'm out on the road and I am purchasing gas, the credit card can pop up on my phone and it does and say, Hey, will you just trying to buy gas at this gas station? Because what'll happen as you use the credit card at the pump. And the pump says it was denied and then up at pops and yeah. Okay. No, that was me. And they said, okay, we'll try the transaction. Okay. And we'll approve it next time. And that's all automated. And that has nothing to do with LifeLock. LifeLock is there to more or less detect that something happened and if something happened and it was a bad guy and basically your identity was stolen. So they might be trying to buy a Ferrari in your name or maybe a 10 year old, four Ford focus, whatever it might be. And. They will help you try and clean it. That's what they do. So that's why it's cheap. And I don't know that it's terribly useful to you if you're really concerned. Go ahead and do that, but do keep an eye on your credit report. I do as well. My bank has free credit reporting for me, my credit card. Same thing. Free credit reporting that lets me know everything that's going on. So that's an easy way to tell WhatsApp. And there are different types of cyber insurance beyond this sort of thing, beyond the LifeLocks of the world. And many of us just get our cyber insurance through our homeowner's policy. It's a little rider. And businesses can buy cyber insurance as well. We have cyber insurance, that's underwritten by Lloyd's of London and we provide a $500,000 or million-dollar policy to our clients. As well, because that's what we do is cyber security, right? So the idea is if one of our clients gets hit, we have some insurance to back us up, but of course we go a lot further. It's almost like the LifeLock where if you do get hit by ransomware or something else, we will help you get back in business. We'll help restore your data. We'll help you with providing you. The information you need in order to do press releases, which agencies you need to contact, which of your customers you need to contact. And we've got scripts for all of that. So you can send it all out and just take care of it. So the idea is you don't want ransomware. So you hire us. We are extremely likely to keep ransomware out of your systems. And on top of that, if you are hit with ransomware, we restore everything. LifeLock does not do that. Obviously they all, I'll only do stuff after the fact and the cyber insurance you buy from an insurance agency is much the same, and there's a huge caveat with these policies that we're buying for our businesses and for our homes. And that is. They have a checklist at the insurance companies. Did you do this and this? And if you did, then they might payout if you did not, they may not payout. In fact, pay outs on cyber insurance policies are not known because. Bottom line. They really don't payout. Okay. I'm looking at some numbers right now and about paying ransoms and everything else. You may or may not. You got to have a look at it. Many of these policies are never paid out by the cyber insurance covers. They usually just regular insurance companies, but it's a special rider. And what they do is they say, Hey, listen, you did not follow the rules, so we're not going to payout. And there are many cases. If you go online and do a search, just use duck, go and say cyber insurance, payout. Lawsuits I'm doing that right now is. And it'll come up and show. Oh, okay. Does it cover lawsuits? Why are liability claims so costly? Yeah, exactly. A 2% payouts is talking about here. I'm invoicing, the most common cyber insurance claim denial. Yeah, it goes on and on. There are a lot is an act of war clause could nix cyber insurance payouts. That's another big one that they've tried to use. So the cyber insurance company will say, Hey, that was China attacking you. Therefore it was an act of. And you can bet if there is a big hack, they will use that. Think of what happens with the hurricanes coming onshore. How much do they push back on payouts? Especially with the real big one, it would bankrupt them. So we gotta be very careful. There are some different types of  cyber insurance. Policies do which have different types of coverages. You've got the first party lost loss, I should say. So that's you to covering you and your loss, your first-party expenses, third party liability. Each one of those has specific parameters. So sub-limit retention and others. First-party losses are usually including the loss of revenue due to business interruption. First party expenses would include all of the services and resources that you needed to use to recover from attack like forensic or system rebuilding services. These third-party liabilities. May cover expenses and legal fees related to potential damage caused by the incident to third parties like partners, customers, or employees whose sensitive information may have been compromised. So read them carefully. Be very careful. There are next-generation, cyber insurance policies are going even further and make these types of services. Prior to any incident to reduce exposures and prevent incidents in the first place. Now we don't provide insurance. We are not an insurance company, but that's basically what we're trying to do here. Not become an insurance company, but to make sure. The businesses have the right services so that the likelihood of anything happening or is extremely low. And then following up after the fact it's different obviously than insurers in and insurance, the guardians, Jessica Crispin had a great article about a couple of weeks ago that I've been hanging on. And it's talking about this tattle where that's been incorporated into the computers we're using at home. Now we're specifically talking about employers that are putting this. The software on computers, they belong to the companies. A lot of businesses are worried. If workers are at home or where we can't see them, how do we know that they're actually working, not watching Netflix or something else on. They have, of course, come up with software that can reassure your boss. It does things like take snapshots of what you're doing. Record your keystrokes grabs photos from. Picture from your camera. There's a new program called sneak, which makes your webcam take a photo of you about once a minute and makes available to the supervisor to prove you're not away from your desk. There's no warning in advance. It just takes that photograph catches your doom. Pretty much anything can be absolutely anything. Then, it's the type of thing you'd expect the national security agency to do. So there are some good reasons for this lack of trust because sometimes employees have not been doi

It's another podcast news special as we close out the first year of the Q'd Up Podcast on Podcasting. On this week's episode, Matt and John break down some recent podcast tech news, further pointing to the changing industry landscape and how it'll impact independent podcasters.  John and Matt kick off the show by flying high with Virgin Atlantic after they inked an exclusive deal to make the “Celebrity Catchup” podcast a part of its in-flight entertainment options. YouTube is launching its first original podcast, which could speak to Google's desire to become a bigger name in podcasting after Google Podcasts' poor beginnings. Finally, the guys break down some news that Apple Podcasts is aiming to improve podcasts discoverability with the iOS 15 release, but will it truly help or will it be taken over by podcasts with big marketing budgets? Listen as John and Matt discuss the latest podcast news: Podcasts on a plane (1:25) The folks on Virgin Atlantic flights will now be able to get podcasts while thousands of feet in the air. Virgin Atlantic has signed an exclusive deal with the “Celebrity Catch Up” podcast, formally adding podcasting to its in-flight entertainment. YouTube is getting into podcasting (9:25) Potentially marking their entry into the podcasting game, YouTube is launching their first original podcast, “The Upload The Rise of the Creator Economy.” John and Matt discuss what this could mean for YouTube and if this is Google's path to a larger marketshare in podcasting. Apple Podcasts getting key new features (25:33) With the update to iOS 15, Apple Podcasts will begin giving personalized recommendations. However, Matt and John wonder just how good the recommendations will be or if this will be a pay-to-play situation that caters to the biggest budgets over functionality. Follow Q'd Up:https://www.qd-up.com/ (Q'd Up - Website) https://www.instagram.com/qdupaudio/ (Q'd Up - Instagram) https://twitter.com/QdUpAudio (Q'd Up - Twitter) John - Email https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-luckenbaugh (John - LinkedIn) https://twitter.com/MatthewS_NFL (Matt - Twitter) https://twitter.com/Izzys_ink_ (Izzy - Twitter) Izzy - Email Links from the show:https://podnews.net/press-release/virgin-atlantic-celeb-catch-up (Podnews - Virgin Atlantic signs exclusive deal with podcast Celebrity Catch Up) http://www.insideradio.com/podcastnewsdaily/for-the-first-time-youtube-won-t-just-distribute-a-podcast-it-will-create-one/article_9484082a-1705-11ec-807d-3fea5e4d6af5.html (Inside Radio - For the first time YouTube won't just distribute a podcast, it will create one) https://9to5mac.com/2021/09/20/ios-15-apple-podcasts-personalized-recommendations-listen-now-tab/ (9 to 5 Mac - iOS 15 adds personalized recommendations to ‘listen now' tab in podcasts)

After Automattic released their experiment with selling $5,000 websites, I published a video, I spell it wordpress now. A video which has been viewed over 1,400 times and caught the attention of today's guest, Matt Mullenweg co-creator of WordPress & Founder of Automattic. I've had the pleasure of interviewing Mullenweg back in 2015, and have consumed nearly every other podcast he's been featured on since. I thought about doing a more in-depth analysis on Matt's responses to my questions, but I'd rather let the content speak for itself, allowing you to digest our discussion then arrive at your own conclusions. Though there is one word that sticks with me, and that's: vulnerable. There are some vulnerable moments when discussing topics relating to blue collar digital workers — or builders/implementors — that could spark a change in Matt's long-term regard to a group of WordPress users that I feel control the under current of the CMS's adoption. 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Easy Support Videos – A fun way to support your customers inside WordPress with videos and text. show transcript show lessMatt Medeiros and Matt Mullenweg[00:03:42] Medeiros: [00:03:42] I'd say 99.999% of the folks listening today know who you are and what you do is there one thing people don't know. That you do.[00:03:51] Do you practice like jujitsu or are you a culinary master behind the scenes? Anything else that's new that people just might not know is like a hobby or something that you do really [00:04:00] well on the aside from work[00:04:01]Mullenweg: [00:04:01] Some people might know, but it's been so long now, but I know I want a jazz musician and that was how I got into building websites. And it's why releases a WordPress are named after jazz musicians.  Don't know if I can still call myself that, but I definitely was for a long time. And it's what I thought I was going to do professionally before.[00:04:18]I got into this web stuff.[00:04:20]Medeiros: [00:04:20] Look, I think a lot of folks think about this conversation and I don't know why, but they're there. I see comments. Like I can't wait for Matt to talk to Matt about this stuff and like really roll up their sleeves and get at it. I don't feel that way at all. In fact, I highly regard your position.[00:04:39] I think I've told you before. I wouldn't want your position. I know I wouldn't want to have to thwart the the comments that come at you every day and run a thousand ish person company. A lot of work. So I applaud you and really respect that position. I'm really interested to chat today and maybe see both sides of [00:05:00] our views and opinions and have a better understanding at the end of the day.[00:05:05]Mullenweg: [00:05:05] I think the mat squared report is a great recurring feature. So I'm sorry that we had some scheduling trouble, but glad that we could make it back on. Probably they thought that because I did leave that a pretty lengthy comment on your, I spell it WordPress video. Cause I disagreed with some points there, but it didn't feel thank you for responding.[00:05:23] I felt like you, you listened and you read it and maple loop to some of that as well.[00:05:28]Medeiros: [00:05:28] Before I get there, I want to tell you, I love simple note. Simple note is the app I use every single day of my life. I'm dying for more simple notes stuff. And this is a bigger question. Look, you're responsible for, by say you're responsible and maybe you can enlighten me. Maybe you're not responsible, but I feel like man, there's so much product.[00:05:54] Under Matt Mullenweg, WordPress, Automattic, .com all the offerings, [00:06:00] jetpack simple note, Tumblr, the list goes on happy tools, Jetpack CRM. there's so much where do you find yourself focusing that attention for like crazy simple note users like myself to say give us more.[00:06:15]Mullenweg: [00:06:15] The good news for something like simple note is it happens without me having to think about it. Cause I to a minute, 20 times a day, at least, and on all of the different devices. So I'm a very passionate user. Simpler does not where I. I consciously focus my time, but I was just talking to the team the other day about like changing where the search is on desktop, because we moved it to be more like a Mac iOS standard, but it's a little more confusing.[00:06:38] It's, that's like a fun thing for me. Maybe after hours. Some of the other products you mentioned tumbler, Woo, wordpress.com are more of an official part of my day. And the way I cover so much is just by having really fantastic teams and and folks I work with on every side of it whether that's Josepha on the .org side of things Paul Miorana on WooCommerce, the list [00:07:00] goes on and on.[00:07:00] Try to think of automatic as a fractal organization. We're about 1400 people. Now let's say a VIP's run running around 200 this week. That looks a lot like Automattic did when we were 200 people and Nick who runs that has a similar executive structure underneath him that I did when we were doing to people for the whole company or that rather Tony Schneider did.[00:07:20] So there's a lots of ways to approach it. And we found that form of scaling is a very effective and I really don't see a ceiling on it. We'll hire. And onboard probably 400 people this year. And it's that if you had told me that 10 years ago, that would seem completely crazy. And I wouldn't even know, I couldn't name 400 people in my life, let's just hire them.[00:07:44]And now it actually seems like a very natural progression of what we've been doing the past few years in terms of scaling the business.[00:07:51]Medeiros: [00:07:51] Do you look at these endeavors? And I think when I, of course now I'm forgetting the gentleman that I interviewed about simple note [00:08:00] I think you call them is it, are they called long bets? Is that like the code name internally?[00:08:04] Mullenweg: [00:08:04] internally we other bets.  The long bets would also be a great name and I'm part of the long now foundation. So that would be a good one. They are often long-term but there are things other than our main areas, which is basically consumers, subscriptions e-commerce and enterprise are the three main areas.[00:08:21] Automattic focuses on.[00:08:22] Medeiros: [00:08:22] And when you look to hire, is it primarily just Automattic, VIP? Folks are going to be focusing on your core focus other than let's say a simple note or a happy tool or something like that.[00:08:35]Mullenweg: [00:08:35] Much like we, we try to follow a five for the future for.org. Something we built into Automatic's culture is having a five for the future for our products. So that's other bets. So we try to have about 5% of the company focused just on contributing.org and then about 5% of the company working on things that are going from zero to one.[00:08:54] So they're there in that pre-product market fit phase of building things. [00:09:00] It's a little less right now. I think we're good on the.org side, but we're a little low on the other beds and that's just cause it's a, it's a. It's been a busy year. And particularly with things like the turnaround for Tumblr and others, we want to make sure that we have enough people on things to to see like an acquisition through it's. The biggest mistake companies usually make with acquisitions is it's been a ton of time leading up to it and buying the company and then they don't pay as much attention to it afterwards. And for example, for DME, what we want to make sure that we have. Yeah, the best team possible to grow that potential, which is it tens of millions of monthly active users blogging, which is really cool.[00:09:39] So let's get them the best are blogging capabilities. And then and see what happens.[00:09:44]Medeiros: [00:09:44] Is that something that when you look at Tumblr, do you look at. This might be getting it. I don't know, maybe into too much of the secret ingredients of all of this stuff. But does that look when you make an acquisition, like tumbler, do you say, yeah, we're going to run Tumblr as an independent business and [00:10:00] we will focus on that.[00:10:01]I, on his business model to monetize tumbler, or do you see that more of how do we integrate this more into a.com feature like tumbler powered by.com tumbler powered by Gutenberg? Like how do you see that synergy happening? If there even is one.[00:10:16] Mullenweg: [00:10:16] Yeah. We try to have kind of three or plans for every business where the first year is fairly high resolution and it gets a little fuzzy or there's further educate, which is okay. Same thing with acquisition, we try to say, okay, what step was the three applying for this on the three-year plan for Tumblr?[00:10:34]The initial parts are very much advertising focused since that's been their business model thus far. But as we get into year two, which we are now and three. I think there's a very interesting e-commerce and membership opportunity for tumbler and some really passionate creators, so much happening there.[00:10:50]So much culture is still happening on Tumblr and originate down tumbler. And then I have said publicly, and it's still on the roadmap to switch tumbler to be powered by WordPress. [00:11:00] So imagine I, how we have Calypso for wordpress.com, which is a JavaScript. Essentially clients to talk to multiple WordPress sites at once.[00:11:08] And it's what you load when you visit wordpress.com. It's totally open source is an equivalent. They call red pop, which is again, a react power JavaScript client to their API. Imagine that API or that client. So you have the exact same tumbler interface, but it's talking to a WordPress API instead.[00:11:24] That would be. Probable first step for how we start to switch over their sites, but there are a massive number of blogs, I think over half a billion. So obviously not all active, but it is a fairly large migration task. How will we do that?[00:11:39] Medeiros: [00:11:39] Yeah, certainly not just pick it up, throw it on your S3 bucket and off to the races you go for any stretch of the imagination. Let's talk more about the recent shift, or it's not even a shift, really, because as you said, this might just be an experiment with the I don't even know what your proper title of it is.[00:11:59] Is [00:12:00] website services by Automattic  or.com or something like that. I will try to quickly preface this to give you hopefully a bird's eye view of. my take and my reasoning for being so passionate about this stuff. First and foremost, love WordPress, defend WordPress, It doesn't matter what Hill I'm dying on.[00:12:21]It's old, he's WordPress. I'm a mentor in a local accelerator and, I see all these people going Wix and Squarespace, and I'm just like, you gotta use WordPress. And as painful as it might be for very beginner users, it's getting better. When I see in the impetus behind the original video, I spell it.[00:12:39] WordPress now. You have to take a look back at me years ago, as somebody who was trying to monetize WordPress plugin, trying to break into the space. There's a lot of threads of thought here, but it's just many years of. just not feeling appreciated is not the right word. It's the first one that comes to my [00:13:00] head.[00:13:00] But you try to submit a theme to the theme team. And you remember, this is decade ago. We don't like ads. We don't like upsells. There's this, you look@wordpress.org repository from a 50,000 foot view and wow, isn't this just themeforest now, tax me to be here. Happily pay the tax to be, to have an ecosystem that I can tap into Alyse Shopify in web flow and things like that.[00:13:26] And then I also see from the Shopify and Webflow side partnerships, open app store, like that kind of thing, being a lot more open, and what I feel is a constant shift into moving all things. The best WordPress experience, moving all things to jet pack and to wordpress.com. And then the icing on the cake is we'll build your website now.[00:13:52]So then I[00:13:53] Mullenweg: [00:13:53] lot going on there. I don't know if I agree with all those assumptions, but we can talk through[00:13:57] Medeiros: [00:13:57] there. There's a lot of deep roots here, Matt. So [00:14:00] I have this [00:14:00] Mullenweg: [00:14:00] we start 10 years ago[00:14:01] when you submitted the theme? [00:14:02] Medeiros: [00:14:02] 10 years ago. Blue collar, digital worker. That's the phrase that I use, I feel as a very underrepresented segment of even when automatic looks at the community, designers, developers like is probably like what, 80% of the core community. And then there's folks, [00:14:23] Mullenweg: [00:14:23] like the term [00:14:24] Medeiros: [00:14:24] to build, trying to build a business, trying to do things with WordPress and. It's that frustration. It's the weight of all of that,[00:14:34] I tweeted out the other day I was working on a friend site, had jet pack. It went to install a plugin and the message that on the plugin install screen said, Oh, by the way, I forget what the exact word is, but you could get exploited or malware through the plugins. Yes, but it's but Jetpack, you came from wordpress.org, who do I trust?[00:14:54]And it's those types of things that it's not these big things that happen. It's death by a thousand [00:15:00] paper cuts. And that's the feeling. It's a feeling that I think a lot of people, I know a lot of people feel and are frustrated by. And all of that bubbles up to, like me making a video, that thousand people watch and most of them agree.[00:15:18] That's how we got here at this moment in time, and that's the level of frustration. There's a lot to even like attack at that point or to respond to at that point. But I just wanted to lay it all out on the table for you. Is that how I've gotten to this point of feeling. Man, maybe it's the implementer.[00:15:38] Who's not very valuable in this community. And if it isn't that's okay. I'll leave the floor up to you to figure out which bone you want to pick out first.[00:15:47] Mullenweg: [00:15:47] to start. Let me start with what you called implementers, which I have to call builders. I do agree that they're not always the most prominent and like core discussions. Sometimes these [00:16:00] people are busy, they're building sites for people, so they might not be in our Slack or things like that.[00:16:05] I take it as a personal responsibility to stay very connected to that community and try to represent their needs and the core direction. I would argue that Gutenberg itself was largely in response to what I was hearing from, I would say smaller builders, shops, people one to 10 employees, building sites for five to $20,000.[00:16:35]It was that the numbers are going to be different internationally as well. So I, these numbers aren't necessarily useful, but No. I was hearing from them that they were starting to use third-party tools to build things, to save time for clients that clients they were having to build very complex things with advanced custom fields and other kind of like interfaces that weren't very WYSIWYG to help people create about pages or make it easier for [00:17:00] their clients to update.[00:17:01] And that was part of what brought us to Gutenberg. I was saying, there is a easier WYSIWYG ish way to approach some of these problems that doesn't need someone on a random database form fields is something that looks like PHP, my admin to update their about page versus, something where you're actually seeing the images and like it's more one-to-one with What you're building, what the other good news is that I hear a lot from this community. So for whatever reason, they find my contact form and Twitter handle, and I get a lot of DMS. And  that's obviously not fully representative, but I do feel like I get a little more feedback from that section of the many stakeholders that WordPress has.[00:17:40]A good mountain. I would love more. So there's anyone listening to this that wants to just share with me your story about how WordPress is working or not for you, your favorite plugins, all this stuff like what's beautiful is every story is valid and whatever someone's feeling is what they're feeling.[00:17:57] So it's true. And these [00:18:00] antidotes one we can digest enough of them so often can show patterns that can be really useful. For determining what is a future focus for WordPress,  the four phases of Gutenberg post and page editing, full site editing essentially workflow.[00:18:16] And then multi-lingual a hundred percent. And for the feedback I've gotten from various constituents, since the WordPress community now WordPress is not one thing over another. We are open source, everyone can and does use the software and. I think one of the beautiful tension that we maintain how I like to put it is every single release, making it more accessible and easier for people new to WordPress and more powerful and flexible for those who are familiar with WordPress already.[00:18:46]I think a lot about interfaces, not just being easy, but being intuitive so that whether you're seeing, what have you been using WordPress for one day or 10 years? When you come across a new feature, a new interface, you can [00:19:00] have some guideposts to how to use it. That addresses very one small part of what you said, but I don't want to talk for 10 minutes, so I just I'll throw it back to you.[00:19:08]Medeiros: [00:19:08] There's a camp of people who are like, man, something happens  my video or this, tiny little blip on the radar, this jet pack thing, but jet pack is much larger. It is the monetization play. I'll say it, I guess you could say no, but it's the monetization play from automatic to say we've got all of these free WordPress sites out there.[00:19:29] How do we monetize it? Yes. How do we make the experience better for the consumer, but also how do we monetize this? It's a perfectly finding that the thing is quite obvious at this point, but anything that ever happens in this space to defend you, people go, it's just, it's, he's just going to make money with this stuff.[00:19:45] I don't really care about that side of it. You an Automattic, there's nothing wrong with that. In my eyes, it is, the lack of that connection to looking at the community members [00:20:00] and saying, how will this impact, how will this impact them? And I think. People forget that, like now you are a 1500 person company.[00:20:10]Matt is no longer in the room with us building WordPress with us anymore. It's a totally like it was maybe 20 years ago. It's a totally different ball game. Now there's a lot of things at play. When you look at what Shopify does, and I guess here's a more direct question when you look at what Shopify does or what Webflow does with their.[00:20:28] Partnerships in their communities. Do you ever see yourself going in that direction or even formalizing a marketplace on wordpress.org to just have a component that I can just bolt into and say here's 30% for automatic. Here's 70% for me. And we do business that way.[00:20:48]Mullenweg: [00:20:48] Good set of questions there. One for the staying in touch point of view, one thing I think, which has allowed WordPress to be a lot more adaptable is the accessibility of the people building it, no matter, [00:21:00] even if you're a very large store on Shopify, you can't join Shopify, Slack where they're building it.[00:21:06] And DM Toby, he's a nice guy, but there's not the level of flexibility, but if you wanted to join a WordPress out of work, Slack and DME, and you can. And by the way people do that. So don't be shy there. I also tried to be on the post status Slack, that I tried to be very accessible because I love to learn.[00:21:23] I love to read. So those are just things that are part of a good feedback loop. And I would say that applies to, if you look at the 500 plus people who were part of the last word, press release You could get in touch with pretty much any of them. And that's pretty special. There's very few things like that on internet.[00:21:42] Certainly the scale of the WordPress is [00:21:45] Medeiros: [00:21:45] yeah, when I'm mad at my iPhone, I can't, Hey, Tim want to be on my podcast, like that's not happening. So I totally appreciate this connection. And the value of that in the community.[00:21:57] Mullenweg: [00:21:57] And it's things like the podcast, but it's also the little [00:22:00] things,  The one thing you said was the marketplace. We've always kept wordpress.org in particular free Joe people pay 0% and there's businesses making tens of millions of dollars a year on there. And they're not paying anything to automatic or anyone else.[00:22:16]There's so there's not really any plans to. To build a billing system or charge for things I think is also perfectly fine that third-party marketplaces like at the forest spring out and they take their 30% or whatever the percentage that's fine. Again, tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollar businesses built on top of WordPress and they that's one of the freedoms to do I don't see WordPress being held back by the lack of our marketplace on the automatic side. There we do run marketplaces. So there's the marketplace, there's a WooCommerce marketplace. So there are different areas where we can provide access to a lot of users, maybe a one-click checkout experience.[00:22:57] And then there's a revenue share for that. I love those [00:23:00] models because it's like what you said, people make money together. Hopefully we're selling things that we're in, we're selling to customers that would be hard to reach otherwise. And hopefully the customer's getting value to that.[00:23:10] And there can be a win-win. I don't see it again, Shopify you could ask a lot of the partners and they're not crazy about that. Remember famously MailChimp and Shopify did that big break up that was around very onerous terms from Shopify.  The participation in the marketplace and what that rev share with even MailChimp.[00:23:28]Shopify is also, I think a good example of almost an Amazon like marketplace, which allows a bit of freedom in the marketplace and then copies it and crushes the people in the community. That I haven't really seen happen in the WordPress community, even when automatic has moved into something like a WooCommerce.[00:23:47] Easy digital downloads still seems to be doing great. And the other e-commerce plugins in the marketplace. So I don't look to them as models as a good thing,  and also like the Apple app store, like the [00:24:00] fact that WordPress itself almost got banned from the store. Like I really much prefer the more open source open access.[00:24:06]There is some trade off there in terms of if someone does want a commercial solution, they might need to sign up for a new site and put their credit card in again. But to me that's getting easier and easier with Apple pay and other things.[00:24:19]Medeiros: [00:24:19] Would you say that? And I think one of the statements that came out of our last conversation almost five years ago was, and I think it's even more true today is. Jet pack is the best way to experience WordPress[00:24:33]Mullenweg: [00:24:33] I think of WordPress plus Jetpack is really compelling.[00:24:37] Medeiros: [00:24:37] because if I were your marketing person, that's what I'd be saying. A jet pack is the best way to experience WordPress and. So now let's lay a foundation to that.  If all of a sudden .org had a marketplace tomorrow, it would probably impact, people maybe even turning to jet pack or potentially even utilizing some of the features of jet pack.[00:24:57]The feeling of [00:25:00] frustration that a user has, I think, is a benefit to jet pack. I've got 10 plugins from 10 different authors. And now I have to go and knock on Pippin's door. I have to knock on Yoast's door, I have to go to Syed's for opt-in monster. And I'm like, Hey guys, what? It's not working on my site.[00:25:17] How do I get this working? [00:25:18] Mullenweg: [00:25:18] Yeah. [00:25:19] Medeiros: [00:25:19] Your longterm success with Jetpack is to smooth all those edges out and say, you know what? We have everything here. So it's almost that Amazon model where it's like, Hey, we see forms are working really well. Let's get forms in here. We see CRM. This is the craziest one of,  I'll admit we see CRMs are working.[00:25:38] Let's bring CRM jet pack in, and it's a fair statement to say that all roads leading to jet pack is to make that experience. It's better. True. False.[00:25:47]Mullenweg: [00:25:47] trying to follow. But I would say is part of what jet pack was created was what the common complaint of things not working together with each other. The vast majority of plugins that people use are free [00:26:00] plugins, not the commercial ones. The commercial ones are the small minority. And so it's not necessarily paid things, interrupting but it's really just stuff working together.[00:26:11]The other thing that Jetpack was created for it is to, important things that need a SAS service How can we provide those? Anti-spam being a great example. We're plugging approaches to anti-spam had been ineffective, but the kind of, AI approach that kismet takes, which is part of Jetpack has been very effective over now, 15 years.[00:26:32]So how can we essentially fund those and a Robin Hood's been in the news for the wrong reason, but let's go back to the story of Robin hood.  Like what's the bare minimum we can charge for, to subsidize providing a service for free. To 99% of users. And maybe that's another differentiation from like Amazon prime, where everyone pays dues, Amazon prime, 99% or more of Jetpack users are free.[00:26:56] So really it's a little bit of a hack in that. [00:27:00] There are certain SAS things that I think make WordPress a lot more compelling that if we charged for it, probably make a lot of if we charged for stats or some of the things that are built into free Jetpack probably make a lot of money. But WordPress would be smaller.[00:27:14] And my goal, which means it's Automattic's goal and also a lot of WordPress, the goal  We want as many WordPress's in the world and I think it's good to put in context. And like you mentioned there were some people that were took the conclusion that you did around like the Jetpack notice.[00:27:32] That got fixed really quickly, but maybe  the build it for me program, or they do it for me program. The 5k we'll build a site for you as like some sign of a larger conspiracy or that we're being evil or that we're holding back this important part of WordPress, or we don't care about that anymore.[00:27:49]But over the past 12, 13 months, there've been over 400,000 sites in the top 10 million that have been come onto WordPress. That's 400,000 high end [00:28:00] sites. Each one of those spending probably at least 10,000 a year to build, to maintain, to hiring people. And that's, when you get into the likely millions of people who are making their living in and around WordPress yeah, a few of 'em get worked up on Twitter and by the way, I'm part of this too, I'll reply to quickly.[00:28:17] And then that kind of escalates. And but if we zoom out a little bit and look at. What's happened? What are the large numbers happening? Even the most controversial video or something like that is probably two or three orders of magnitude smaller than just the number of sites built in the past year.[00:28:36] And the thing I just ask people to remember as well is that Twitter is a little bit designed to get people worked up. That is his business model. And by the way, I know this, but it happens to me too. And it's just I think it's the length, it's short, it's hard to have a nuanced conversation like we're having now and even 280 characters.[00:28:55] It is the algorithm for promoting these hot takes and controversy. [00:29:00] It's the context, meaning that I maybe saw like a political thing or an environment, like something that got me really rattled up. Two tweets before I saw the screenshot of the Jetpack notice. And yeah, maybe I do believe that there's a vast conspiracy by oil companies to.[00:29:16] Trick is that recycling is a thing when it's really just a way to sell more plastic and like we have to fight this. And I'm really worried that personally about that. It's a true thing, by the way. And then I see this Jetpack notice and I'm like, Oh, there's another one. This is just as bad as Exxon and Chevron and all the, all the kind of like grand conspiracies and the Davos and the Illuminati or whatever it might be like.[00:29:37] It's easy to draw lines between things that. Things that might be large and small can seem really large on Twitter. And and then things happen quickly. The what's the old saying like disinformation can get, make its way around the world before the truth has a chance to put his pants on.[00:29:53] There's just the. What it rewards moving quickly versus the [00:30:00] truth, which gets out there very slowly. I experienced that really toughly. There's something really tough. It might've been definitely in the past 18 months where there was someone who tweeted accusation that automatic had fired our African-American editor of one of our publications and this got over a thousand retweets more than that likes it was yeah, it was around the time that there was all social unrest and riots and everything like that.[00:30:28] And so there was a huge pile on to this. It was factually untrue. The person replied, she had actually taken a job. Preserved foods left for a higher, more prominent job. And the original person who tweeted this actually replied a correction as well. So to their credit, like corrected this misinformation that correction got five retweets. So it was literally like a 200 to one ratio of the. The controversial, but untrue thing, so that true, but maybe a little less [00:31:00] of a salacious story thing that went out there. And that really broke my heart as well, because that's obviously an issue that's near and dear to the hearts of many people.[00:31:10] And especially over the past year. And to know that there might have been folks who might've applied for automatic and then saw that and said, Oh, this isn't a place that's going to be welcoming to me.  Was just despondent. So it's just a good example of that. There's also someone usually on the other end of these tweets, like in the jet pack example, like someone who made that example, the person who fixed it, like within 24 hours, like we should remember this humans on the other side,[00:31:36] Medeiros: [00:31:36] right. Yeah. And definitely appreciate the team that, that adjusted that I would say for the record that I'm not spreading disinformation or cosmetic conspiracy[00:31:45] Mullenweg: [00:31:45] do use your crushers. I appreciate.[00:31:47]Medeiros: [00:31:47] That I tried to do this stuff. I am very passionate about it. Yes. And I can only make assumptions. The  what I will say is I think that in the longterm where you might not [00:32:00] call jet pack a direct competitor, I would say that there will be a market correction.[00:32:06]As Jetpack solves things like grab like forms better or galleries better, or I dunno, some other feature in there better than let's say Pippin's plugins. Eventually. I feel like the advantage that Jetpack has in both a brand and positioning that we'll see a correction of maybe losing three of these smaller product companies.[00:32:30] In the longterm as jet pack becomes much more mature, much more fortified. Is that fair?[00:32:36]Mullenweg: [00:32:36] I do worry about that, but it is a very, long-term worry. Meaning at the point when we're unable to add new users have worked for us[00:32:45] Medeiros: [00:32:45] Right?[00:32:46] Mullenweg: [00:32:46] and that's remember, there's still 6.9, 9 billion people who haven't used WordPress yet. So we have a ways to go, but for extremely mature technology companies, Facebook has 2 billion people, daily active users, they're running out of people.[00:32:58] And so it is much more zero sum. [00:33:00] One thing that it was cool about all the year-end wrap-ups that got posted from the different commercial companies, the volunteers, everything of the people in WordPress community last year, which by the way, it was a challenging year for humanity. Was a pretty good year for all of the businesses you just mentioned and also a good year for automatic.[00:33:17]As we expand the pie, everyone's portion of the pie can also keep growing without a necessarily be a zero sum between them. We can work in these economics of abundance versus economics of scarcity. And that's why if I get ever criticized. For really prioritizing growing the number of numbers of users of WordPress.[00:33:38]It is true. It is very important to me that we at in our mission to democratize publishing that we bring more people on the WordPress, the platform. I think it's, is it a trailing indicator of us doing our job of creating good product? Also keeps the companies from it allows us to work together a lot more.[00:33:54]Even one thing that's beautiful and WordPress direct competitors work together all the time. Hosting companies that are literally selling [00:34:00] the exact same thing. We'll have developers coordinating on a new feature. I also will say yourself included that WordPress is blessed with a really great media.[00:34:09]We have had in the past say a few years, some of the polarization where the, of the world seep into our communities where we're fast to jump to conclusions or create sides on things. But at the same time I've never run into someone in the WordPress kind of public space or things like that, that didn't really care about the truth as well.[00:34:31] And was, it was willing to update their worldview based on new information. And I hope myself included. I can demonstrate that I'll have strong opinions, but loosely held if new information is there, I want to update my, my view of reality because. If I am far from reality, that's going to be bad for myself and everyone involved, everyone that have influence over where the closer I can be to understand reality the better and my [00:35:00] role in responsibility as a leader within this community, I can help navigate and focus my attention and my contributions to whatever's most con  constructive for all the stakeholders and WordPress community.[00:35:13] Medeiros: [00:35:13] I'd say that I have a good understanding of your view of jet pack so far I'm not fully convinced that maybe not maybe saying even reached the resolution on the implementer or the builder's space and the connection there and that's okay. What I want to[00:35:29] Mullenweg: [00:35:29] a good question to ask though. Automatic is a business and does move into business areas. Has any business automatic moved into so far, the elimination of all its competitors. Have the host grown or shrunk since wordpress.com started are the other foreign plugins doing better or worse than Jetpack forum started?[00:35:49] Like you can almost look at every single example. We, my experience has been that automatic entering a place generally grows the market. Doesn't operate in a zero sum way. [00:36:00] Enterprise is the same way.  Think this came up, actually, it was a great tweak correction. It might've been Bridget or someone who said, automatic copy the, I forget what it was and I don't want to misquote it.[00:36:08] But basically the implication was we moved into enterprise space and took the oxygen out of the room from these companies I 10 up and others. And in fact, all those companies started after cross hybrid, et cetera, started after VIP. And I think VIP has been a big contributor to their business growing and scaling.[00:36:24]Medeiros: [00:36:24] One of the things that I think that I've often talked about again, when for some reason people ask me like, what your thoughts are. I don't know I don't know what[00:36:30] Mullenweg: [00:36:30] You are an influencer.[00:36:32] Medeiros: [00:36:32] name. The people say don't you think it's just because,  they want to IPO and they want to do all of this and they have this investments and they need to pay back the investors and that kind of thing.[00:36:43] My hunch is that you've had tyranical capitalism knocking at the door to try to do something with core WordPress, wordpress.org and with Woo commerce, and the only like real painting I've [00:37:00] illustrated to myself and to maybe others is that, that you are actually defending. From, the monetization of core WordPress or, this aggressive capitalistic play on monetizing WordPress.[00:37:12] I think that you might be actually defending, I can't imagine the amount of emails you've deleted, where people wanted to throw money at you for the sake of the greater good being WordPress of course. And it's four freedoms. But there has to be some loss there. And I think maybe the loss is we're going to defend this thing called WordPress and to appease investors.[00:37:34] And it's not even a piece, it's not even the right word, but we're going to show them. We have this thing called Jetpack. That is Matt's defense. Your defense to say, look, we don't look guys. Don't worry about trying to monetize wordpress.org or WooCommerce directly. Let me show you Jetpack instead as a way to defend WordPress with the unfortunate cannon fodder being the implementer or the business person.[00:37:58] And I don't even at [00:38:00] not even saying that this is a bad thing, because I can't even imagine how many times you've had to defend and put a fence around people who have said, if you just put an ad right here, you could make $5 million a month by putting a buy now on the install, WordPress page or something like that.[00:38:16]It's, that's a feeling of mine. I have obviously, no. Insight into that, but you can either speak to that or not, but I feel like that is Jetpack is is a great way for you to say save the core WordPress open source. This is what I focus on. If we're not talking about Jetpack, we're not talking about investing in, in, in automatic or even looking at WooCommerce, that kind of thing.[00:38:39] Do you think that's fair?[00:38:40]Mullenweg: [00:38:40] Yeah, there. Yeah. So I would say a weakness of mine is I'm not building websites anymore for $25 an hour.  I've been very fortunate even outside of WordPress with my investments and everything like that to essentially be a lottery winner. And so since. My early twenties. I have not been motivated by [00:39:00] more money cause I have more than any one person could need, but really motivated by the impact of my work and the things I'm supporting in a part of in the world.[00:39:11] And the toughest thing within any open source or any open community is essentially commercial interests. That take too much for themselves without putting enough back. That's why we have the fire for the future program. It's amazing that all it takes is 5% 95% could be doing whatever. But if every company in the WordPress community did put that 5% in WordPress would actually be, I would say three to five times larger than it is today.[00:39:42]We have some amazing companies, the tinnitus, the Yost automatics that do a lot of this. And I hope that more and more joining the suture as they see those companies also do really well. But. That is my motivation. So that, I guess the bright side of that is it would be really hard to bride me.[00:40:00] [00:40:00] The downside of that is that I do need to do extra work, to stay in touch with the builders with everyone else that you talked about the other companies. And so that's why I just try to have that open door policy and know I had a zoom with one of the With a large agency folks yesterday and just hearing like, how's your business going?[00:40:18] How's, what's the latest, what's the, what are they hearing from their clients? What are they building on Gutenberg versus others? How are they bidding against other things in the market? How's Adobe experience manager doing? So these things are really helpful because I do have the part of the world that I work in every day.[00:40:33] And and so I need help to stay connected to all the rest of the things going on in WordPress.[00:40:37]Medeiros: [00:40:37] You said your one week, that was one week. I think, man, you do a lot. You do too much, Matt. You do too much like that. You let it go. Like you said, you were very, you felt very personally responsible for the builders. When I jokingly, maybe it doesn't come off as a joke and I'd say things like a PR agency or stuff like that, like I think.[00:40:54] You need to just give someone that role to really stay grounded [00:41:00] to that, and then maybe report to you or something like that. I feel like you, I, this is just me speaking bluntly. I feel like you wear too many hats but kudos to you for balancing it for 20 years.  [00:41:10] Mullenweg: [00:41:10] So I'm always putting hats on and taking hats off.[00:41:13]A good example is I was actually personally running wordpress.com last year. And so that was a lot of work. [00:41:19] Medeiros: [00:41:19] Yeah. [00:41:19] Mullenweg: [00:41:19] And, part of doing that was also identifying someone I could pass that hat to. Actually we just started a new framework inside automatic called hats. That sort of shows that like many roles, especially in a fast growing company, you might take on and put off without necessarily a title change or something like that. So we need to be flexible to do things differently. I really do look up to, these are flawed role models, but folks like.[00:41:45]Elon Musk or bill Gates, or, folks who are, can say highly, technically connected to every single part of the business, and then use that knowledge to help navigate, because I do believe that the more layers of [00:42:00] abstraction you're dealing with the further away from reality you are and the harder it is to understand what's really going on.[00:42:06]So we do, we do obviously hire lots of people that do the things I used to do things instead of me But occasionally I feel, and for any leaders listening to this it's it's good to dive down into the details. I was doing some live chat support last week. Yeah. I'm hoping to do some more this week.[00:42:20] So if you chatted with wordpress.com support, you might've gotten me is that the most valuable use of my time? If it were 40 hours a week now, but if it were a couple of hours a month, Oh it's invaluable. I think it's actually one of the most valuable things I do. So it's I would say, think about even when you scale to thousands of people, how you can stay connected to the core of your business, which is really the customer[00:42:42]Medeiros: [00:42:42] I think maybe one of the things that be coming out of 90, and we're not even out of the pandemic yet, but we're go through those that this whole last year and seeing so many.  People that I've seen on Twitter saying, look, the client business has dried up I say, man, wouldn't it be great. If [00:43:00] instead of automatic launching their division of $5,000 websites, there was this collection  of building and boutique agencies that could satisfy the needs of a $0 to $5,000 website.  And lift these people up. Who've been, cheerleaders for WordPress for many years.[00:43:19] Mullenweg: [00:43:19] I a hundred percent agree with you there.[00:43:21]So I think we're in total agreement. It's just an order of operations, to, to launch the test, we've done things like Jetpack pro and other things to pick up pro and others that essentially build an agency list. Obviously the enterprise side of the business works with dozens of partners there and sends all that out.[00:43:38]But for this, which is literally a test with one or two people working on it, it was easier to work with an Upworker, a codeable to try to see if we'd get that funnel. Because it's no good for us to bring in 20 or a thousand agencies, if there's only five clients a month going through it. We need to flow first.[00:43:53] And so just from the order of building it, like to test this concept, to see whether this is even something people signing up for wordpress.com want [00:44:00] it was just, what the resources, this thing was, I really did mean it was an experiment when it's very much to go. I think that's when you start to say, okay, how do we open this up?[00:44:09] It is very clear. And I've said this before automatic is not a consulting company. We're not a people shop and we're very much all about technology and engineering and algorithms and that sort of deep tech and SAS services and that sort of stuff is where we're always going to focus. So any place where we're able to send out consulting or building or something that we're going to look for the opportunities to do because that's just how we've.[00:44:37] Define the business. It is pretty core to our identity. There's also things like jobs.wordpress.net that we do need to loop back on and do a better job of I noticed actually as part of that discussion that the LinkedIn jobs, that word presented had fallen off the footer of wordpress.org, by the way, for those who don't know, which probably almost everyone, this is a free job listing site where people can list.[00:44:58] People they want to hire or look for [00:45:00] jobs in the WordPress world. That's, you're probably be  way better. Maybe also someplace where we charged the minimum amount to keep out spam and stuff. So that might be, someplace where we say it's $5 to list your job or something that just goes to the WordPress foundation.[00:45:12] But again, if we ever charge for things, it's usually for They keep the quality high, like why do we charge for our camp tickets it's so we can properly plan for how much food to buy and how many t-shirts to order, because when you make a totally free, a lot of people sign up and don't show up.[00:45:26] So if we charge 20 to 25 bucks, it's not going to keep anyone from going, you get by the way, probably $500 or a thousand dollars worth of value from that. But allows for less wastage in the planning. So sometimes if you do see a charge on the.org side of things, it's usually for that reason then necessarily trying to.[00:45:44] Create a marketplace or something. And a lot of people don't know this, but.org doesn't have the WordPress foundation has no full-time employees. There's zero. And so that is a design goal. So when you say make a marketplace, it's already even a small marketplace, I need to hire 20. Or [00:46:00] twenty-five people building the billing systems, handling refunds, doing support, all these sorts of things.[00:46:03] And we do try to keep the employee base of the word presentation. Totally zero. Now we have lots of people working full-time on WordPress, but they are generally. Sponsored or volunteering or doing that as part of they're employed by someone else. So that's just also something good to put out there because a lot of people don't realize that[00:46:21]Medeiros: [00:46:21] Let me just drill down on that one that one specifically, because it was a note that I had, but I skipped over it, the quick story is I remember years ago.[00:46:28] And let's talk about some of the, the frustration of a product person. This should have gone earlier in the conversation, but the frustrations of a WordPress product person, stemming from some of the experiences we, it's not just me, it's many others openly blogged about it.[00:46:42]Spending a theme to wordpress.org many years ago. I remember the theme that I put in was called journal, right? We're writing it, we're making a journal. And someone said. Now that name is too too vague, too ambiguous, right? We have to get something tighter and then Mo and then months later, I saw a theme get approved [00:47:00] called paper, and I was going, wait a minute, journal paper.[00:47:04] What's the difference? So it's these, this is a small blip in the galaxy  of events, but it's those types of things where it's largely led by volunteers. And people should not be upset of the volunteers. It's the nature of the structure. And this is where I think people turn to and say if you made it a paid marketplace, there would be.[00:47:26] There's probably, and you probably know this better than I do. It's probably a billion dollars that flows through wordpress.org. There's probably something in there where we could carve out some money to pay for a team. It's not an easy task, but one that I think would still be very profitable.[00:47:40] I could be totally wrong. So that is a feeling and it's not just me. This is many people echo this feeling of why is it free? Why is it volunteered? Why are they making decisions? Commercially based decisions, those types of things. [00:47:53] Mullenweg: [00:47:53] It's it's a, it's one of the, I think biggest mistakes I seen as a meme, the WordPress world that [00:48:00] free can not mean high quality. And I think WordPress itself. Largely developed by volunteers. Again, 95% of the contributors are not paid or sponsored by any company that you can actually have something that's world-class, the equivalent of millions of dollars of value.[00:48:17] If you were paying Adobe or someone for a CMS that wasn't as good as WordPress developed for free by volunteers, Wikipedia, like there's so many examples, Bitcoin, gosh doing that, never underestimate, underestimate. The power of people, passionate about an area working on it together for love, not money and doing so in a way where the ownership is shared.[00:48:41]So if anything, I want to encourage a lot more of that. It doesn't mean people can't make money. It just means that let's never assume that just because something is free. A free theme. Can't be the best darn theme in the world. The free page builder, can't be the best darn page builder, not just in the WordPress world, but in the entirety of all CMS, it's a with [00:49:00] Gutenberg.[00:49:00] So there's ways to do it. And so if you ever find yourself saying that, just question that assumption. Cause there's so many counterfactuals to it.[00:49:06]Medeiros: [00:49:06] Do you ever feel like. You're just getting started with WooCommerce. Like when you just take a step back and you look at, and you go, man, I haven't even done anything. And again, people ask me all the time. What do you think Matt is doing with WooCommerce? Like I know, I feel like you have the same challenges.[00:49:26] A lot of us product people have where you have money. But you just can't get enough darn people on this thing at the same time to get this thing moving. It's a very similar challenge to maybe even Pippin's plugins and SIADH and Yoast. It's not the money. It's the time. It's the people and getting that all in sync.[00:49:47]What are your thoughts on WooCommerce? Just getting started or however you see it.[00:49:54] Mullenweg: [00:49:54] it's day one with all commerce, the, when you look at the potential there [00:50:00] I often say that we're WooCommerce is where WordPress was in 2008. I would say that's for software maturity in terms of like where sort of percent of the market that it's captured, it's where WordPress wasn't like 2003, what?[00:50:14] It was like B2, plus some hacks. There's just so much there and probably a good place to mention that automatic is hiring for 30 or 40 open roles. So whatever is, you're a copywriter. If you're a support person, if you're person like, we are hiring as fast as possible. And and a lot of those new hires are going into the WooCommerce side of things.[00:50:33] So if you're interested in that, it is it's the largest rocket ship I've ever been a part of. And if we do it right, it is not just bigger than all the rest of automatics businesses combined, but probably maybe like a. Two to 10 X bigger.[00:50:51]Medeiros: [00:50:51] That's tremendous. One of the things. Speaking of products. I wish you put more money into things like video press was a [00:51:00] phenomenal product, but it's all integrated into Jetpack. Now with this rise in a video and all of this stuff is that just going to be a long-term bet or is, do you not see like that chunk  of Jetpack or the business being something that's a very alluring right now?[00:51:17] Mullenweg: [00:51:17] Yeah, just to give two little previews for your audience.  Cool update the video press conference. It is very eminent, good player, especially is so much cooler so much nicer. It feels even more modern than like a YouTube player. Continuous updates to the infrastructure. So we're making as automatic builds out its global network.[00:51:35] I think we're 30 plus points of presence globally. If you look at DNS perf we're usually second to only CloudFlare or Google for how fast the network is, it's a kind of hidden part of automatic. Then I'm really proud of that. Not a lot of people know about. So look for that to be a lot faster.[00:51:51] And then finally as you probably see with Jetpack CRM, Jetpack backup, a few things is we're making it so you can both buy and [00:52:00] install these things. All a cart.  Don't think video press is still standalone plugin right now, but essentially what we've been doing with Jetpack is architecting it.[00:52:07] So if people just want one of these features, they could just install that, add on a plugin much like Jetpack backup for CRM or how kismet and Jetpack interact.  We want to get people the flexibility. To pick and choose just what they want because I do it's not entirely true because Jetpack has its own internal plugin system.[00:52:27] So if you're only using one module, the rest of the code has been loaded. It's not somebody on your side at all. But I do get the perception where people will like, does 20 things while using five of them. So yeah, ways that we can break it up, I think are are helpful. Aye. There still is.[00:52:41]The truth is that if you install Jetpack and the CD and everything go make your site faster, though. And I think a lot of people, I appreciate that people can start different benchmarks and things to overcome the the myth that Jetpack slows your site down. When in fact it actually speeds it up.[00:52:54]Medeiros: [00:52:54] I don't do bonus rounds anymore, but here it is. I totally side with you on the [00:53:00] The other Matt and Matt feud with the JAMstack stuff. Look, I, again, diehard a WordPress fan. When I start to see all of these points of services connecting together, just for me to publish a website, I'm like, what's the point?[00:53:13] I can do it all with WordPress. And the note. And so they're getting to the question the no code, low code movement. Is phenomenal right now. I feel it's again, like you were saying, like it's like WordPress 2004, when everyone was like, look what I can build with advanced custom fields in WordPress.[00:53:30]Arguably WordPress, probably the best no-code low-code tool that's that's been in existence for for 20 years. [00:53:37] Mullenweg: [00:53:37] But maybe we have the worst marketing team. So we've got some things we can learn there.[00:53:41]Medeiros: [00:53:41] And I see all these people putting,  Hey, I'm using web flow, I'm using air table. And then I'm coupling that with a gum road and MailChimp. And and I'm looking at it, just, my head is hurting but you don't own any of these points in your stack that you could do with WordPress.[00:54:00] [00:54:00] And I guess the frustration. Is that a lot of people look at it and go, geez. I don't think I can do this with WordPress or WordPress is too slow, too. Yada, whatever they have to say. It's an amazing time. Do you feel like the no code, low code movement is a fad? Do you see all of these things going away to a degree[00:54:19] Mullenweg: [00:54:19] some of the companies are fats. The movements is basically the movement. It's a multi-decade movement that WordPress has been surfing, which is this idea that things you used to have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to do. Sometimes software, I can make it with a few clicks you can do.[00:54:39] And that's so empowering. That's a promise where to see technology at its best when it essentially gives super powers to people. That's what we mean by democratization is it's providing a freedom of expression capabilities that wouldn't be there without the software. And so that, it's been rebranded recently.[00:54:58] He's like low-code or no-code [00:55:00] you are correct that WordPress is. In many ways, a low-code or no-code tool we don't get credit for it. There was basically, I just saw a website builder report and I was like, Shopify is 50%. I was like, what? And then I looked and they weren't counting WordPress as a website builder.[00:55:15] And I was like, Oh, okay. [00:55:18] Medeiros: [00:55:18] This is where your angry tweet comes in. Why did you do this?[00:55:21] Mullenweg: [00:55:21] okay. They have a very specific reason where it basically like, as Gutenberg gets further on, I think they'll count us as a website builder. So the methodology was consistent if even if I didn't agree with it. And it is true that Shopify is really the only other platform other than WordPress that's growing in a meaningful way.[00:55:40] So I think it was interesting to look at,[00:55:41] Medeiros: [00:55:41] Yeah.[00:55:43] Mullenweg: [00:55:43] go ahead.[00:55:44] Medeiros: [00:55:44] I was going to say to your note about like empowering, like feeling empowered through software the biggest. Revelation to me as a quote, unquote developer many years ago was Drupal version four with the combination of CCK and views. My mind [00:56:00] was blown. Like I could build a view of data without having to write a query and knowing, back then and how to write SQL and stuff like that.[00:56:09] And I was like, wow, this is magical. Those are moments that you feel powerful when you're able to do that kind of thing.[00:56:17] Mullenweg: [00:56:17] I think where there's a huge opportunity for word press community, including individual bloggers is an education and tutorials. So let's say that something, when you just listed the Webflow plus air table and come road. What's each one, each name you listed. There is a business with sometimes hundreds of employees.[00:56:36] That's making millions and millions, probably tens of millions of dollars. And so they invest a lot into essentially user education, tutorials conferences, things like that. We need to do a lot better job. At writing the walk-throughs did you ever see a video game walkthrough? It's like curious how to get through super Mario or something like that.[00:56:56] Like, all these things are possible with WordPress, but some of those [00:57:00] levels, the boss monster is really hard and people don't make it fast enough. So if there's a little bit of a tutorial or walkthrough, that's really valuable. And I think it's also important for these to come from folks without necessarily commercial interests.[00:57:13] There are a lot of. A lot of the tutorial, if you Google for a lot of things around WordPress, you end up on affiliate sites and people are just trying to sell you a particular thing. And, we need a lot more of that. Here's the best way to do it. Maybe it says you should buy something.[00:57:29]Maybe it doesn't, maybe there's a free alternative. And so I think that's a downside as well as almost every WordPress company has an affiliate program. Sometimes the sort of free and unbiased tutorials and things are. Are just shelling for one [00:57:43] Medeiros: [00:57:43] Let, let Let me step in as your PR coach, Matt. Nope. Let's avoid. That is a lot of people listening to this who are WordPress YouTubers myself included, but I don't use a lot of affiliate links. [00:57:52] Mullenweg: [00:57:52] I'm not saying there's anything wrong with affiliate links, but I think what's beautiful is you want to promote the best solution and you don't have the [00:58:00] integrity to say that maybe something's not paid. It might be the best solution for this particular thing.[00:58:05]Medeiros: [00:58:05] A hundred percent Matt Mullenweg. Thanks for taking some time out of your day to, to reach out and have this discussion. Obviously folks can find you everywhere. Twitter, your blog, M a T [00:58:17] Mullenweg: [00:58:17] made that TT. Yeah. Fotomat pho, T O M a T on Tumblr, Instagram and Twitter. I'll try. I'm trying. One of my resolutions is to fight less on Twitter. So I'm trying to [00:58:28] use that one a little less. I could do a lot more if I use Twitter less. So watch out 2021.[00:58:36] Medeiros: [00:58:36] Take to by someone everyone else. mattreport.com. mattreport.com/subscribe to join the mailing list. We'll see you in the next episode.[00:58:43] Mullenweg: [00:58:43] Hey Matt, thank you so much. I really appreciate this.[00:58:47] Medeiros: [00:58:47] I appreciate it as well. Matt. Thanks a lot. ★ Support this podcast ★

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We’re also a couple of days late, uh, due to technical difficulties, go figure Highland for everything. Um, we’re broadcasting live from our homes. If only we had, if only we knew technology, people that could help with our technology issues who knew it would apparently none of them could fix zoom. You’re having it problems that I’m like, did you, is it plugged in? Is it turned on to have you rebooted, but Hey, you can find us online at [inaudible] dot com to his favorite. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. So, and as per usual, uh, we, uh, in case you missed the announcement last week, uh, we have decided to kind of hold off doing our in person events until August. Uh, so we will be setting those up shortly. Um, of course that’s assuming everything is still open by the time August rolls around. Cause if you’re paying attention, uh, places that opened up are starting to close back down again. So we’ll see how that goes. I’m going to be a weather regardless of what it is. It’s going to be an outdoor venue. I think we’re going to pick Nancy whiskeys down in Corktown. Uh, we’re going to see how this all plays out. We should just, we should just have it at like the DCF C soccer field, just we’ll we’ll all be outside. I think like I saw a thing from rhino. They’re doing a wrestling event in the middle of like an eight acre farm. Well, no, it’s behind the, uh, the SOC, uh, and it’s, they’ve actually been th they were actually talking about doing it cause you know, we’ve been running their show for them. Um, they were talking about doing it, uh, at the, at the Marina at, uh, at rhinos Marina. We talked about that when I was hanging out. Cause it’s, he’s got a huge grab a lot. Yup. Oh, by the way, I, um, I got gotta, it’s been a little bit of a bittersweet couple of days. Um, we had a couple of celebrations and a couple losses. I just, you know, I just want to throw it out. Um, me and my wife celebrated our 18th on Monday. That was kind of a, you know, half of it was a tech support for this show, but that’s all right. What we’re here for. My daughter just turned 16 and Hey, excellent job keeping that, ah, keeping that surprise a surprise by the way. Oh yeah, we, um, she still didn’t believe it was hers. Um, we get, we give, we, uh, I didn’t do the big red bow, but we didn’t look very excited. I gotta tell you the picture she did. She was, she was shocked. She was like, is this mine? But it was, it was well worth it. And then, uh, had a couple of losses, uh, um, Merissa Morocco, one of them, one of my closest friends, uh, his older sister died of cancer. And, you know, without whom we would not have the flavor flave stories to be telling. I mean, that was, that was all her arranging and yeah. And her, uh, every party asking for diamond girl from nationwide, whatever. Um, but yeah, we’re, uh, super sad that families are super sad, but, uh, she’s been fighting for a long time and she’s, uh, hopefully not in any pain. Absolutely. And then, uh, and your cat dude. So yeah, I mean, well, I mean, she was 17 and you know, she was just 17 now. Uh, I mean 17 years old and you know, hadn’t really been eating right lately and apparently it was going into kidney failure and lost a shit ton of weight lately. Um, and so it’s, it is, I mean, that’s that hardest decision when you have pets is listening to them when it’s, when they tell you it’s time to go. And then so yeah, that was today. So that was, uh, that was a bitch, but seven 17 is a good life for, for any pet. Oh, for sure. Absolutely. Um, but Hey, uh, brighter, brighter topics. Jesus, let’s get off that. So I don’t get all weepy and blow my cover as a Dick. Uh, um, so no, so we did mention, you know, Hey, as long as places are open, um, I know I got out and about a bit. How about you? Yeah, I, um, got to the barber on Saturday. That was, uh, that was amazing for what to shave my head. Oh, Oh. Like when you’re like, I’m like half bald, like, right. So like get only like, so like when it grows out, it looks awful. Like it looks horrible. And I tried to do the beard trimmer thing and it looked, it was even worse. Um, and my beard was getting sanely long, so yeah, I’d get a little, uh, trim on the side and, you know, it took longer to trim the beer than it did to cut my hair before. So, uh, but it was a, you know, felt like a million bucks when you left. And I, you know, I left the curly stash still nice for me. Um, yeah, I mean it to a, Duffy’s low the local corner bar here. Um, kind of funny, uh, some of the places around town, like I think you, uh, were talking to you that they really took precautions. Duffy’s took out a couple of tables, um, to Ralph Lou in Rochester Hills. Like the windows were open outside every table had a somewhat on it. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was interesting. So Friday, um, I went down to Detroit shipping company, uh, and we’ve kind of talked about, you know, their plans. They removed the migrating, everything outside. Um, it’s cause I went down there cause you know, we’ve got our studio, there were, you know, reopening the studios now. And uh, so I had to put the TV in there, uh, that I had never installed in there before. So that’s up and running. So now we can have zoom guests for there and keep the in the studio down like We’re trying to do. And what they’ve done is, so for those of you who are familiar with it, you know, the layout, but if you aren’t, so there’s an indoor courtyard, which is where like all the tables were like in the center of the room with ringed, by all the restaurants. And then there’s an outdoor courtyard that had a big tent over it. And then there was the back parking lot. Well, the big tent that was in the outdoor courtyard is now in the back parking lot. All of the tables that were in the indoor courtyard are now gone. They have been converted to booths that they built in the back parking lot. So there’s like, there’s literally no parking, um, in the back parking lot anymore. Cause it’s either, uh, the cupboard tables with the tent or the booths. And they built, you know, these booths with little canopies over them. Cause we all know, I mean, other than today, of course it’s been pretty hot and sunny lately. Uh, and they’re making a run into that way and there’s no, uh, there’s no walk up to the bar to get drinks. Everything is you have to be seated. Uh it’s tableside service. And so that’s kind of one of the challenges that they’re having there right now is like their staff, like the only people they’ve ever had on staff have been bartenders and bar backs. And, and so now they’re trying to convert them to waiters slash waitresses. Um, well that’s the one thing we were always concerned about was who, you know, who, if anyone’s coming back to work, are they just sitting on their hands, waiting for the call or they’re like, no way I’m not coming back or they’re like, you know, it was kind of a mixed bag. Um, so I know it was like I said, I was there Friday. Um, and, and had a, it was nice to see, you know, some of the bartenders that I knew and that kind of stuff and some of the staff and, and it’s still only brew hoe and coop, uh, that are open from a restaurant perspective. Uh, look amazing by the way from a dude he always does. Yeah. I mean he he’s. Yeah. Dude, chef max is just, is freaking amazing with what he puts together down there. Um, so, Oh, and I guess that’s the other, the other reason you can be inside, uh, basically, so going inside is literally only if you’re walking in to go to the bathroom or if you’re there for a pickup takeout order. Um, those are the only two reasons why you should be like on the indoor, on the indoor side of things. Uh, but they have refreshed the art. They’ve done a, a really great job. They’ve made a whole commitment to, uh, basically feature black artists for the next year. Um, and do the stuff that they have up right now is just amazing and outstanding. So, I mean, if you get a chance just to like be able to, cause you can walk around the art gallery obviously, um, which is on the second floor of the indoor courtyard. Uh, but you know, just take a look at stuff and see what’s there. It’s a really, really great, uh, it’s a great pop in. Um, but yeah, so I mean, so that was nice. And then I walked around the corner to temple bar, which laughably kinda looks like a seven mile liquor store, uh, now, cause it’s the a C know it’s, it’s, the bar is still the bar, but now they’ve got plexiglass shielding from the bar top to the ceiling, uh, with little holes cut out every now and then that they can slip your drinks through and like take cards or cash through that kind of thing. I was so surprised to hear that like honest to God, like usually it’s the dive bars that are like, whatever, You know what though? I mean, so I, you know, I give like, you know, so I mean, you know, I spent a lot of time talking with Larry George, actually there was so there’s only me, uh, Larry and one other person in the bar. Um, George was apparently hanging out upstairs the owner and he came down and like said, Hey, and thanks for coming back. And, you know, thanks for coming in and all that stuff, um, you know, and had a good talk with him about, you know, how they’re looking at it and how they’re doing things. And it was really interesting. I mean, like they’re like, so like the, the plexiglass around the bar honestly, is really to protect the bartenders. Um, you know, kinda like the whole, you know, masks are there to protect, not you, but other people, you know, that plexiglass is there to keep the bartenders safe. Well that’s, and that’s the weird thing about the masks too. It’s like, okay. They say you don’t wear them walking in. Then when you sit down, you take it off. But like, you know, maybe 25% of the people wore them walking in the rest of the people, kind of everyone I saw just didn’t have them on at all. Um, I know, true. And then no, go ahead. No, no, no. It was just, uh, I was just being cognizant of it. I wasn’t, I don’t think I, I don’t even think I’ve worn mine walking in. Cause I’m like, if I’m taking it off in three steps, you know what I mean? Like, Hey, am I even putting it on now? Well, but so I mean, but so that goes, that gums down for the guidelines from the state is, you know, when you are seated, you are only supposed to be seated basically with people that you walked in with. So that it’s, it’s kind of a, like a closed group kind of thing. And so the masks are supposed to be when you’re walking in, or if you get up from the seat to like walk to the bathroom or whatever else when you’re inside, because that’s when you’re going to be mingling or around other people and increasing your level of contact and exposure. And so you should be wearing one, then it is what it is. Uh, you know, so, like I said, you know, that I left temple bar and wow, I gotta tell ya, it took so long. It took the longest, it has ever taken for me to get a lift, um, from temple bar to get up to whiskey in the jar. Um, there just aren’t a lot out and running right now. Um, which I guess I can’t blame them. Uh, you know, um, but so, you know, finally, you know, got one made my way up to whiskey, um, where, you know, no plexiglass Florida ceiling, they’ve actually taken some of the high top tables and push them, uh, up against the bar. So there’s at least a more, an increased barrier, um, between, you know, the bartenders and, and the people coming in. Um, but again, only, you know, three or four other people in the bar, uh, kind of a good time. And I gotta tell you, it felt really good to actually be in a bar and, uh, and take over the jukebox again, I’m not gonna lie. That’s a, that’s something I’ve really missed. It’s so funny when I was at second base and I’m like, Oh my God, the jukebox is on. Oh my God. And I couldn’t think of the damn Chuck man got the name. I go, what’s the name of the instrumental? I’m like, Oh my God, like, literally, like I lost my, what is, what is that 10 minute remix that I always play and piss everyone off? Yeah, yeah. What’s my playlist. And I went to a, then when I went to Duffy’s, the same thing happened and Ben was like, man, I miss you. Cause he’s always played punk rock for him Because he’s a big, The first thing I do is I put in, you know, dead Kennedys or whatever. He’s like, Oh my God. You know? So, um, but yeah, it’s uh, and Oh yeah. And then we went to great lakes crossing from my, uh, for my daughter’s. Uh, we went to a range. She wanted to go to rainforest cafe for sweet sixteens. Interesting. So I’m curious, how was it like in a, like, how was it in an indoor mall area environment? I’m curious, Walked out of there at seven 20 and it was closed. Like there was no one left. Um, we probably parked in the second parking spot and we got, there was like a five o’clock dinner. Um, there wasn’t really anyone around the, the place was half-full. Um, they only had like four people working, um, to be honest, it was relatively quiet. Um, by the time we left, it was pretty much about three quarters full. We walked out and there was no one in the mall. All those, all the Gates were pulled down and, you know, we didn’t go for a lap. We parked right outside in and out. I was, uh, yeah, I was just kind of weird. It was just weird vibe. Well, I mean, and it kinda is like, no matter where you go, like I said, I mean, I didn’t, I didn’t go a ton of places when I was out Friday, but, you know, it was, it was interesting seeing, like by and large, not a ton of people wearing masks. Um, and although I like everywhere I went, staff was, um, and, and so I give them all the credit in the world. I mean, that’s, you know, it’s not easy to burn a shift, you know, sitting there wearing a mask the entire time and it’s, you know, it has its own challenges, but good for them. I mean, they’re, they’re at least trying to, you know, at least walk The walk. Yeah. I mean, if you’re, you know, and again, if you’re not tipping, you know, I think I tipped a hundred percent of my Barbara tip 50% on a dinner, 16 people. I got, I got yelled at quick. Yeah. I got yelled at both by Larry and Augie, uh, for how much I tipped them. Uh, I was out on Friday, but I’m like, guys, well, not only that, but I mean, I mean, I’ve got a three month backlog where I haven’t, you know, been out drinking and tipping. So I mean, it’s, my bank account is, is still like, like, wait, wait, what? What’s going on? Wait, why is there so much in here? Wait, Oh, you haven’t been out. That’s why. Yeah. Right. All the bartenders haven’t made their car payments in three months because of a you, right. Exactly. It’s been a rough. Um, but Hey, so good story. And this was kind of a late breaking one, um, that I just shot across beforehand. We’ve, we’ve talked in talking about walking around downtown Detroit. Um, so we’re all familiar with project Greenlight. Uh, there was a story that just came across about a man, um, who like, so he’s sitting in a black gentlemen, um, and he said, he’s at work one day. And he gets a phone call from the DPD, uh, that says he should come down to the station and turn himself in to be arrested. Like, and he thought it was a prank, so he ignored it. Uh, and he gets to his house and he pulls into his driveway and two cop cars, uh, basically blocked them in. Uh, they, you know, they, they pull, you know, get him out of the car. They tell him he’s being arrested, uh, arrest him in front of his wife and kids. Uh, and this is a quiet Southern Farmington Hills. This is not, um, you know, this is like literally like a nice sub. Yeah. And so, you know, they arrest them, they take them downtown, they book them, they process them, they do everything. Uh, they get him, uh, you know, they sit him down and start, you know, an interrogation room. And he, they were like, Oh, well, you know, when’s the last time you were in Shinola. Uh, and he was like, well, I, I think I checked it out in 2014 when they opened that’s about it. And they were like, Oh, so you know, this isn’t you. And they, they slap a photo down. Um, and it’s, you know, someone who had, uh, apparently walked away with five Shinola watches, um, and it clearly was not him, but the facial recognition software, uh, said it was. And, and so that’s, you know, this is the issue that we’ve talked about a number of times, and I know what a lot of people have as well, where basically facial recognition technology works great. If you’re white, if, if you are not, there are significant issues. And so this guy got arrested, got his fingerprints taken, got his DNA taken, um, got all this stuff, happened to him because of a bad hit from facial recognition technology. Yeah. I’m looking at it like the company’s, uh, data works, um, and they don’t measure their measure for accuracy or bias. So it’s just basically, it’s just there. It’s just there and Hey, hope for the best. And if you get caught up in it, sorry. Yeah. Uh, 10 times basically they falsely identified African American and Asian faces 10 times to 100 times more than Caucasian faces. Jeez. Yeah. And, uh, stop it, stop using it. Um, yeah, please, for the love of God. And here’s the thing, I mean, and it’s not that, cause I think we had talked about this last week as well. Like I don’t agree with the project. Greenlight needs to go away because at its core, the video surveillance helps business owners, the facial recognition component of it that needs to go the hell away. That that’s the issue. And that’s where all of these problems start coming into being, I mean, here’s the thing. You can use it as a guide, but you can’t use it to grab someone out of their house and cuff them and take them to the state out of their frigging driveway in front of their wife and kids for the love of God. I mean, that’s, I could see if he can question and going, Hey, I’d like to talk to you for a minute and be like, or you have the, or you have the detective show up at the house with the photograph that didn’t look like him and go Ash at our bad, sorry, stupid software. It have a nice day, sir. That’s the thing like you get, you get pulled out of your house and arrested and taken. Even if they said he falsely identified, dude, that’s 10 years. You’re telling that story to friends and family or anyone that’s going to listen. I will absolutely how EFT up that situation is. Like I said, if They were just calmly use it, like that would be one thing, but yeah, taking it to that part. Um, couple of other things like going on some big things, baseball’s back 60 games season. Um, I don’t know. Uh, I know you, uh, I think we’ll will opening day be a big thing this year. I don’t know. Um, and I don’t even know if they’re gonna allow people in the stadium or how they’re going to put people in the park. Wait, wait, what put people in the park now? How, how they’re not going to allow people in the stadium? I don’t know. That’s what I’m saying. I don’t know if they’re gonna allow, uh, if it’s going to be like soccer, where they’re playing in front of a crowd and piped in and piped in now, crowd noises. I mean, I wouldn’t mind going and sitting in the bleachers as long as I’m kind of like in a little Island, but you know who the hell is going to work there. Who’s going to do, you know, hashtag still better attendance than the Trump rally just saying, ah, you guys loved it piling on shit. You know what else is dumb? Um, I guess apparently I swear to God it’s from the Detroit news. I had to read it four times. Cause I thought it was the onion or Babylon and B, um, that the owner of Eskimo pie has got to change the name. Now dude, I get, you know, so think about it. Like we’ve had this con, like we had this conversation when beaners changed our name. Uh, and when we kind of joked that we’re offended about crack. Exactly. Why, why hasn’t Cracker barrel. But before know, we’ve been telling them, we’ve been telling that story for what seven years now, guys, more than that. And I just, Oh, for the love of God, like I don’t, I mean like on some level I get it, but yeah. I mean, that’s that, you know, I’m sorry, that’s, that’s not, you know, that doesn’t have the historical kind of in my mind and, and please feel free to tell me where I’m wrong in my mind that does not have the negative connotations that an aunt Jemima does that, you know, though all the brands that are looking at changing their names and that kind of stuff now, I mean it’s, well, I mean the answer, my main thing, like you knew not that it was cringy, but you knew it came from that gone with the wind wind era dude. A nice, so I’ve always, I’ve said here’s what I would love. I would love to do an interview with like one board member per decade from Quaker oats and just be okay. Like, okay. So, so not, not a problem in 1950, not, not a problem in it because it’s not. Okay. So explain to me why you looked at that in 1960 and said no big deal in 1970s and nobody deal eighties, nineties, two thousands. Now, now you finally realize this is like what finally, what finally happened in that board room that made you go, Yeah, we have a problem on our hands. Yeah, we should. We should probably do something about this. My two favorite ideas or memes is that each have a Shaquille oatmeal and flapjack Karen that’s. I like flat carrot. Yeah. And then there was the under Quaker instead of undertake the undertaker with the side. I do think that would be amazing. Um, oatmeal. I’m like whoever thought of that, I got to buy him a beer. Exactly. That’s that’s just genius in and of itself. Uh, so you know, what, what makes me laugh is, you know, there was a story that came across and I don’t even think I shot it in the links. Um, there was a guy who basically tried to fleece the, uh, the government with the paycheck protection program with, for a company that had been out of business for two years, um, and managed to get a couple million dollars, uh, in the paycheck protection program. Um, and bought himself, a couple of cars, bought his girlfriend a car, but you know, like, like really, really high end cars. And you want to see good fellows. Yeah. He got busted by the FBI and yeah, so now he’s screwed. Um, but I’m just saying, you know, if he would have been smart, he could’ve taken $74,500 of that. Um, and gone to Boston dynamic and bought one of those creepy spot robot, dog, things that we’ve been talking about forever that scare the ever living shit out of us price tag. Yes. $74,500. You too could have the little creature from the bullet head app or metal head episode of black mirror, a low end Tesla gun or a robot dog. I can put a shot gun on fee. That’s the dilemma, totally dilemma, $74,500. Like I like, I’d kinda like to figure out how to make that work, but that seems like a really dumb thing to be buying. Yeah. 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Um, it’s basically the Carroll Shelby. They wanted to beat Ferrari in the, in a 24 hour Lamont. Is this crazy race that goes for a day? I don’t even know if they still do it or not. Yeah. It’s a, it’s a 24 hour race. It’s it’s pretty it’s it’s draining. Yeah. But the crazy, the weirdest part was like Batman was the grace car driver who lost a hundred pounds for the role. And Lee Lee Iacocca was the Punisher. So like the whole time I’m watching it and then we’re waiting for a fight to break out the Punisher. He’s got Lee Iacocca has this shit, Matt Damon, who I’m not a really huge fan of, um, killed it as Carroll Shelby. He was awesome. Yeah. He was a, I don’t know. It was great. Flick is so worth. Even if you hate racing, it’s a great story. Um, so I mean like really the only things I got caught up on, uh, I watched history, So I’ve been like kind of Netflix been doing stuff. I watched history one Oh one, um, which if you’re not familiar with it, it is, uh, it’s only an eight episode series. Um, and just like little quick hits about like the history of fast food in America. And you know, it’s just, it’s, it’s really, really good. It’s, it’s a good series overall. And now I’m, uh, I think I’m six episodes into conspiracy, uh, which, you know, me, I love a good conspiracy theory just to pick it apart. And like, that’s the thing I really love about this show is they let all the conspiracy theorists like talk their talk. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I love them poke it. Um, no, so, and it’s like they, so they let the conspiracy theorist do their thing and then they have like relevant experts mixed in that are like, okay, well, here’s why this theory is not true. Here’s why this theory is not true. And here’s how this really plays out all that kind of stuff. I’m just getting a text and breaking news. We didn’t land on the moon. Go ahead. We absolutely did. Um, but yeah, no. So I watched those two things and there’s that? Um, yeah, other than that, uh, you know, and you know what, I gotta give a shout out cause you know, so the, uh, the news broke. Um, so Lucifer, uh, season five, uh, the first eight episodes are dropping August 21st. Um, and then the next eight are still TBD. They haven’t announced a release date yet, but they did announce that he signed for season six. I just recently went back and burned through those again. And in season four, I didn’t give Lucifer enough credit at the time for tackling some social issues. Like there’s a really good, um, the black lives matter episode without being a black lives matter episode. Cause it, it it’s, Amenadiel, um, you know, with a, with a young black teenager, um, and they’re run into a situation with the police and that kind of stuff and overzealous white cops pulling guns on them and that kind of stuff. Um, so yeah, I just gotta, I gotta give the show props and I’m just happy. Uh, number one, that there’s going to be a season five and the number two, there’s going to be a season six, My new hotness. And this is a, I got to get you down. This wormhole is apparently hot. I’ve never, I don’t know how I’ve never seen these, but it’s the comedy central presents. This is not happening. So it’s basically set up in a strip club in Hollywood. I think it’s called cheetahs, um, where the, the, the there’s standup comics that tell like 10 minute quick stories and there’s like 50 people in the audience. So I was intrigued by like the big name, small crowd thing. I liked. I kind of do that. And you’ve got everyone from like Joe Rogan, Tom green, Tom Arnold already Lang Jim brewer, respectable lineup. There’s a bunch of small time comics, but they’re basically, they’re not telling standup, they’re telling funny stories. Um, I just watched one today of a comedian. His last name is park. He’s an Asian guy. I’m talking about how he was bullied at his middle school. And he ended up having to go back there for a talent show for like his niece. And then it ended up getting like the worst case of diarrhea of all time and like ruin the bathroom and they crapped all. And he had to like right as he rode his bike there for nostalgia, but it’s like this drawn out 10 minute poop story. We’ll meet. It’ll make you cry. Um, the best one, uh, Jim brewer talked about, uh, how we worked at Sears when he was like 16. And there was like, uh, he was in the paint section and, uh, the guy that worked in hardware, it was like a funny duddy 40 year old, you know, I wouldn’t take this job real serious. Okay. So he called in a, he called it a missile threat from this is, you know, basically saying, you know, this is mole Mark Kadafi I, I I’m when I was shooting missiles at your store. And then he says long live paint. And he basically the guy called the cops and the cops showed up and like helicopters, the FBI shows they did. So like, he’s got to tell this story to like the cops, then the FBI. And every time we would finish, they would go like, Oh my God, like, that’s hilarious that guy’s definitely a suspect. He should be a comedian. And like the way Jim brewer tells a story, man, it’s glow. It’s gold. I’ll have to give it a look like I said, go ahead. No, no, go ahead. If you like a good, uh, like kind of like, uh, Dave, uh, got me to rope me into telling, uh, uh, I shit, my pants story. I go comedy improv and it’s kind of like that kind of format. And if you’re missing, if you haven’t seen that yet, uh, just look up, uh, Bob Walton, spiel. Uh, I forgot. What was that? Um, God, I can’t remember what, what the name of the show was. Uh, damn. Can’t remember. I don’t know. Just Bobcat have too many videos on YouTube. Bob Walton, spiel, Google. It you’ll find it. It’s yeah. They Googled me at work and found the video, like the gold cup that show whoever put it on. I thought it was going to be buried in like three hours of people telling stories. No, no, they put my name up and at this point I’m like, you know what, leave the damn story. I’m not even mad, dude. You’ve told that story. I can’t tell you how many times. Yeah. Yeah. Google me. You’re going to get a Ted talk on YouTube. You’re gonna get a Ted talk and like me pooping my pants on a date and clips from wrestling events. That’s yeah. Right, right. I don’t even think they’re tagged with my name unless that’s just shit. I liked, um, the couple of things in, um, movies that we didn’t talk about stuff that’s coming out. Um, I’m kind of mad. Um, did you see the changes that they’re trying to make to justice league? Well, on this four hour reboot, so I don’t think it’s the changes they’re trying to make. It’s the stuff they’re putting back in. So, I mean, it’s, it’s not like the reshooting stuff it’s, you know, so the movie was going one way and then, you know, the guy, you know, the guy had personal issues and dropped out of the film, uh, you know, and they got replaced as the director. Um, and, and it went kind of a different direction. Uh, and so they’re basically getting it back to where it was supposed to be a much darker movie. Um, no pun intended, given that you’re leading up to the fact that dark side, um, is supposed to be playing a much bigger role in this film. So they, they, so they’re not adding. So I got from that, that they’re like adding it, like, because like they’re taking out step and Wolf, who’s off a horse shit villain anyway. And we talked about that, like of, of all of all the villains you have in, in the DC universe. Really, you went, you went with Steppenwolf without dark side, stupid decision. Like what were you thinking? And that’s, I think that’s what I’ve been watching the shit load of super friends lately, like with the Legion of doom. It’s like, how did you not have that collection of fillings going against the Jew? Like it just, it’s sitting there staring at you in the face, like my bestow, or is it that I say that. Right. Um, and like, uh, Mitchell Plex and bizarro, Superman and Solomon Grundy. And I’m like, ah, it’s could have been so good. Um, Oh, uh, Hey Pat, Pat, the weirdo says, Bob, don’t worry about it. Nobody can spell your last name. They won’t find you on YouTube, but apparently this is Snyder. Cut is a, is clocking in it four hours and they’re going to, they might make it a mini series dude. Like, and I mean, you remember the dude I bitched about the last two Avengers movies. Like why I’m sorry. There’s no movie needs to be three hours plus long none, bro. And then there, and then there, it’s going to be 20 to $30 million to do it. Just make a God damn new movie on a, on a shoestring budget. You don’t need Henry Cavill make frickin Michael Sarah or some bullshit actor that hasn’t worked in a while. And you know, Zach Morris or either if you’re going to spend that much money, just redo it or make a new, make it the next film, make it yeah. Do a part two. Yeah. Right. Like meanwhile yeah. Meanwhile, the Legion of doom. Yeah. They missed it. They missed the boat. By the way, if you’re going to have Ben Affleck as Batman and not have Matt Damon has Robin and put them in the gray tights, that’s absolutely like that would be the Kevin Smith cut. I feel like that would, if I ran Hollywood, I wouldn’t even let them make a Batman without Matt. Damon is the other one, the other great story, by the way, um, karate kid. Uh, that’s exactly where I was going. Yup. Yeah. Talking about Netflix Cobra, Kai, the series that had one and two was on YouTube. So Hey kids, if you’re keeping score at home, it’s time to cancel those YouTube reds subscriptions. I went to Cannes. I thought it was like nine bucks a month. I went to cancel it. And I remember adding, I got the family thing. So like everyone could, you know, dude, it was 18 bucks a month for YouTube premium. I’m like, that’s a bill. I’m glad to get rid of. I’m like, dude, you know, and I gotta watch a commercial now every, every five videos. Okay. Yeah. I know. I thought it would be all spoiled and go like, you know, um, but yeah, Cobra Kai’s coming on Netflix. They did. It’s a huge win. So yeah. Yeah. So it’s it season three, that’s coming to Netflix. Um, which apparently like they already have done. Uh, and you know, YouTube basically said, Hey, we’re getting out of the original content and programming space. And so they started shopping around and we’ve talked about this on the show before that it was basically down to Netflix and Hulu as far as who was going to get it. And so I guess Netflix is going to get non-exclusive rights to seasons one and two. Uh, cause obviously it’ll probably still be out there on YouTube, uh, or, you know, they, I think they had it on Amazon prime for awhile. Uh, and then season three will be going exclusively to Netflix. And I think part of the deal, um, if I recall correctly was they had to agree to at least a season four. So that’s good news as well. Yeah. I mean it’s, it’s good, dude. It’s such a great Serious, like that’s I remember what, like when this was the one that talk about this first came out of her, both of us going, please don’t screw this up, please. Don’t screw this up, please. Don’t screw this up. Oh my God, they didn’t screw this up. This is fricking amazing. Well, and the best thing is that they gave the fans what they wanted. They, they, they made LaRusso to be the bad guy and then they flipped it and then they turned it back and then, you know, they, they gave us exactly what, you know, go figure. You could give us what we want. We’ll we’ll pay for it. We’ll drool while we’re throwing our money at you. Like, yeah, that’s what we do. Thank you for it. Like, it’s basically like if any of us ever got, could have the patience to write a script and then the focus and the mental yeah. The mental wherewithal to go ahead and do it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Oh, by the way, there’s got we’re so scattered on stories this week. Um, when I laugh by myself, I know it’s stupid. Um, it’s a, it’s a study from Fox to, um, but there’s a new word that I haven’t used in awhile basically to study finds that flushing, your toilet could release virus, Laden, toilet clues, toilet flumes. I, yes. I have not heard the plume. I can’t tell you in how long, like it wasn’t, it wasn’t that like the, like when you put a feather in your hat, that was the plume. If I recall correctly, I don’t know. But the here’s the best part. My, uh, now 16 year old, I’m telling her this story because I’m trying to, you know, cause I’m a dad and I want to tell poop jokes to my kids to make them roll their eyes. And she goes close the goddamn lid and flush that. And I’m like, see, that’s why you are going to be the president one day. I think that no, that’s why she will be too smart to be president one day. Um, but Hey, uh, so speaking of, you know, flushing money away and that kind of stuff, I felt bad. Um, the story that came across the kid, uh, that opened a Robin hood account, um, which, and, uh, you know, they’ve, they’ve been a sponsor Of the show before, so sorry. Uh, but you know, so they’ve, uh, apparently he managed to rack up, I believe it was $730,000. Um, and, and it’s weird how the spin on this came out. So he, he was basically $730,000 in the negative. Still couldn’t do the math. I tried to do the math on how he was running investments. So it comes down to like margin calls and that kind of stuff. And, and yeah. Yeah. And, and so, but what they said was that the problem is, is that if he had waited like six hours, the rest of the transactions would have gone through, and it wouldn’t have been anything close to that. Um, but you know, like his parents were like, okay, how in the hell does a 20 year old kid even get enough leverage slash whatever, to be able to incur a $730,000 debt, even for six or eight hours. I think you missed the big part of the story. He committed suicide when he saw the negative balance. Oh, no, that’s what I said. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I missed that. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that was the, uh, you know, what did he have? He had $16,000 in the beginning, I guess he won a little bit, not one, but you know, he was ahead. And then, uh, you know, basically you thought for what it’s worth, uh, bill, just put a link in the watch party chat, uh, to go to your YouTube video in case anybody. Um, thanks. 1159. Bill. Love you, man. No, but he, he thought he basically just destroyed his entire future. And why bother living upon what you have is $700,000 debt for the rest of my life. Crazy. Yes. Oh God. Let’s see. I can’t even imagine. But yeah, they give, I mean, they give credit cards to college kids these days. So I mean, they, they kind of know what they’re doing. Um, Oh eight, but at speaking of that for we dive in, uh, so Hey, capital one knows life. Doesn’t alert you about your credit card. That’s why they created Eno. The capital one assistant that looks out for surprise credit card charges, like over tipping, duplicate charges or potential fraud, and then sends an alert to your phone. Then it helps you to fix them. If you need to. It’s another way capital one is watching out for your money when you’re not capital one, what’s in your wallet, see capital one.com for details. So I got another like, do you remember how you, why do we hate slow roll and all those things, because it’s an excuse to stop for traffic. That’s it? Oh, okay. So yeah. Excuse for selfies. And then for the love of God just stopped for traffic lights. That was always our biggest bitch. Chick-fil-A opens up in no bites. And there’s like this line, like they had to do a helicopter run for like five minutes to show this line. And here I am thinking as a rational human being, it’s a chicken sandwich. Not at all, not just, it’s a good chicken sandwich, chicken sandwich. You have another Chick-fil-A at Somerset mall. About 20 minutes away, 30 minutes. Maybe if you had to put some tracks that doesn’t have a mile long line doesn’t have. Yeah. So now you can basically go to Somerset park, go upstairs, go to the, Chick-fil-A, get the chicken sandwich drive back to Novi. And you still wouldn’t be through that line. But, but then you wouldn’t have been able to get the selfie, but you wouldn’t have been able to sell it there. That’s, that’s how that works. Check in there and said, I’m here. And you’re not just like everything else on social media these days is look where I’m at. Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me and look at me. Look at me, look at me. Yeah. But like at what point does, like the cities of America is like, just like Chick-fil-A is opening up in Shelby township. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. How about no, um, you’re going to need the, the parking lot of a Walmart or you’re not moving in, like, is it dude, how much police duty did Novi need to, to, to run this damn right. I’m saying like, and chick plays like, I don’t know. I don’t care. We just opened the doors. Dude. We don’t care about her community impacts and he didn’t pick up a deal though. Like I don’t get it. It’s not that good of a Sam Popeye’s it’s better, but it’s is better when all blasphemy Wendy’s spicy chicken sandwich. I w crushes Popeye’s crushes. I will fight you on this. You’re stupid. You know, I’m sorry. I’m sorry that you prefer a sandwich with basically a chicken finger, uh, as opposed to yeah. Kate, get outta here with that nonsense pickle and Ooh, and a pickle. Ooh. Yeah. Um, so our gyms, our gyms opening up or no, dude, I don’t know. So that was too much. So they’re supposed to be opening up tomorrow. Um, but then, uh, cause you know, basically there’s a federal, I think it was a federal judge that came in and said, you know, yeah, you have to allow Jim’s opening and laughably. We talked about this with Fred the last time, uh, Fred Brown, the last time he was on the show about, okay, well if health and fitness is a part of this, then why aren’t gyms open? And he saying the exact same thing that Whitmer and her staff are saying, which is okay, but in gyms, people are heavily exhaling a lot at an increased rate. And so you have more shit floating around. And so that creates problems. Uh, and so who knows, like, I, I genuinely don’t know if, if they’re opening up now or not. Cause I think it’s, it’s tied up in the court. So we probably won’t, I haven’t seen an update yet. She appealed in like, um, I guess, you know, I’m, I’m in this whole physical therapy thing. So I need, I, to be honest, I want to go to the gym cause I need to strengthen on my left leg. And so I’m looking at burn fitness going, I just was going to go in there and I got to do two machines. I know exactly which ones they are and I’m looking at I’m going, they have classes going, I’m like, wait a minute. Cause I was gonna like sign up real quick, Pat, Pat, the weirdo just turned and he said, well, you know, strip clubs are open and they cause heavy breathing. So that’s yeah. Thanks Pat. Which ones do you go to? Um, no, but they, they, they were showing classes already at the burn fitness by my, and then they will let you call them. They’re like, yeah, no, we don’t know yet. So and so, so we lightly touched on, uh, you know, the answer of my, my thing as a, as a tangent and I guess one of the unintended side effects that kind of made me laugh is the day they announced that change, um, due to eBay and Facebook marketplace were flooded by people like who apparently ran out to stores or ran to their pantries, um, and started listing, let started listing aunt Jemima bottles as collector’s item. Uh, it discontinued at like 10 to 50 times the face value. Like what, what, Where are we as a society? That that’s a thing now I’m going to, I’m going to come to your house in like 10 years and you’re, I’m going to go on like, and it’s going to be like your trophy case. Like bro, where’d you get that man? That’s that, that, that won’t be at my house. I’m just, let’s be crazy. I remember I bought a like Simpson cereal when like the first came out, I just kept it and I put it in my baseball card, a bookcase and I still have it. I looked at an eBay and I could sell it for like $6. And I’m like, you know, at this point, like throw in the garbage, what the hell is the point? You know what, I forgot to talk to you about it. I wanted to see if this was bullshit or not. I spent about three minutes on it. So I don’t know if it’s right or not. Um, I kept getting this meme going Google any three digit number, as long as it doesn’t start with a zero. Right. As long as it doesn’t start 101 Oh one didn’t work either. But if you Google any three digit number and the word cases or new Q cases. Yep. It came up eight 23. Here’s the story? Nine, nine, nine. Here’s the, here’s a news story about where, what location had that number of new cases from somewhere? It was always from a different location. It was always I’m like w X, Y, Z, and Toledo or whatever. Um, and basically, uh, I don’t know if it’s, like I said, a hundred, 100 didn’t work and one-on-one didn’t work one or two did. And then I like stopped five, five, five work, nine, nine, nine, six, six, six. Um, it was completely and utterly bizarre to me. Um, Well, I mean, it just goes to show you, I mean, if nothing else, I mean, Google is very heavily weighting news, um, about coronavirus at this point for obvious reasons. Um, and yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s kinda crazy that no matter what number you throw in, there’s somebody that has that number or had that number, um, you know, in recent news and recent history, that’s, that’s making that pop. See, and I also get like, from the other side of the conspiracy theorists that say it’s bullshit and they’re just trying to flood the, you know, build scaring with her. I’m like, dude, like, you know, here’s the thing. When you sit at home long, you start thinking of crazy shit. Um, the w the one though, um, I guess the FDA came out and they said there’s nine hand sanitizers. Um, that could kill you. And we’ll tell you after sports and weather, wait, what the FDA came out, said, there’s nine different hands. Talk for a sec. I’m refilling my drink and listening. Yeah. Yeah. There’s nine hand sanitizers that contain methanol, which is absorbed through the skin or ingested. Um, it’s, it’s, it can basically kill you. It’s it’s, uh, a toxic alcohol that’s used as a solvent, a pesticide, um, alternative fuel source, but apparently most of the, um, methanol based, uh, are made in China or made in Mexico or they’re made cheaply. Um, I guess if you have you used too much of it, um, basically nausea, vomiting, headache, blurred vision, permanent blindness seizures, coma, uh, damages, the nervous system and death. Um, it’s lethal, only used in doses of 30 to 240 million. I mean, so how is that different from a night out drinking with us? Like, I guess I’m confused. Um, but then there’s, then there’s nine of them that they, that they list, um, all clean, ask biochem, clean care, no germ, um, LaVar, um, Hey, he’s alive Santa derm. Whoops. He was sleeping. Um, but apparently, yeah. Uh, uh, if you have something that contains methanol, um, throw it in the trash. Yeah. Methanol bad. That’s that’s a, that’s a pretty easy one. If you buy antibacterial thing, you don’t look at the, Oh, is this organic? Like, you’re just trying to think. Nobody looks at the ingredients list on frigging anything. I love know, I love the meme that’s floating around. Uh, somebody had posted, Hey, you know, here’s the ingredients list from a vaccine. Um, which one do you object being put into your body? There’s like all these chemical compounds and that kind of stuff. And people are like, Oh my God, that’s terrible. All of them like really? Um, so that’s actually the chemical composition of an Apple. So that was the, uh, do you support banning dihydrogen nitrogen oxide. It’s the most corrosive chemical known to mankind. It eats through rocket. Yeah. Thousands of people die from it every year. It’s drought. We’re not going to tell you that. Good old Penn and teller. I missed that. Totally forgot about when we’re talking about justice league. Um, what do you think about Michael Keaton returning his Batman? I mean, better than, uh, Ben Aflac, uh, and certainly better than George Clooney and better than Skippy. Mick vampire kid, Val Kilmer spaghetti at walls to see what sticks at this point. Oh, no, not about killer. Who was a Steven Pattinson? Roger Pattinson. What’s the kid’s name from? I never watched a single Twilight thing thinking I’m happy about it, Robert Penn vampires. But apparently it’s going to be like, here’s the thing. Is it going to be like a princess Leia rogue one where it’s like Michael Keaton, but they like smooth as skin out and don’t make them look like such an old bag. Um, cause it’s like, it’s going to be like play a cameo on flash. So obviously he’s going to go back in some time. Maybe like maybe they’re getting to the episode where I, cause I mean, that was always, you know, the passing of the torch was when bane breaks Batman’s back and he can no longer be Batman anymore. Um, and kind of a mentor role. Yeah. So maybe they’re finally getting rid of that story who knows, Or they get bored and it’s just like Batman in the later years when he’s 70 and he can barely walk up the stairs. See, now that’s a good movie. Make that or like, you know, or, or a prequel when they’re all like eight years old. I was, I do that already. They did that with, um, Gotham you off them or, you know, it’s, it’s like, yeah, the retired Batman kids. Let me tell you a story. When I took on the joker, when I, when he was Jack Nicholson was the best joke. Let me tell you why. And then the big chase is he’s on like a Walmart squirter whipping around Gotham on Rascals that have like, that have rocket launchers of course. Cause it’s bad when they’re going to call time out, you just gotta hit his inhaler. Yeah. Got it. Ivy bag on a roller cart next to this. That’s again, why are we not writing this crap? What’s wrong with us? Like four people, five Oh mother of God. So, Hey, you had a, you shot, you shot a note across without any really story, backing it up. Um, about barbecue joints being the only recession proof business. I mean, not that I disagree cause I’ve ordered from them several times, but Holy shit. Um, father’s day, um, we’re not going out anywhere cause there’s nothing really kind of open from, you know, and I don’t want my dad out because he’s, you know, like 78. Um, so I’m like, Hey, pop out. I’m just going to go pick up some barbecue and we’ll see at your house, you know, cause usually, uh, usually we go to the Carpathia club and, you know, get a Hungarian sausage and, and watch soccer and have a beer. That’s kinda been like the last 20 years of father’s day with my dad. So, you know, I look forward to it, but you know, there’s no soccer this year. There’s no father’s day picnic at Carpathia. So I said, I’ll bring over some barbecue. Well, I’ll be goddamned. It costs in woodpile. There’s a line out into the street. Um, woodpile opened up a new location in Madison Heights. We get in there. Um, they’re out of everything at like one 30. Wow. There’s no ribs. There’s no, uh, uh, Chile, I think they’re out of two other things. So I’m like, what do you have? Give me a pound of whatever you have left. So I got like burnt ends and brisket. The brisket was not even, you couldn’t make it cut pieces anymore. It was all, it was gone. Um, the jalapeno sausage, I mean, it was phenomenal. It’s amazing. But like there was a line out the door on both of those places. I mean, I guess if you’re putting out good food. Yeah. I find you, like, I think I kind of did it smart. I was like, I stopped Saturday. I went over to shots market. There were like 14 in Garfield blossom. Um, and they always, Oh yeah, I do it. And they’ve, uh, they, and they apparently they sold it and now the original owners are back. Um, and they’re going through a whole remodel and everything. So I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s phenomenal. It’s a great, like that’s, that’s my go to like meat market. Cause it’s close to the house and that kind of stuff, um, you know, picked up, uh, you know, some T-bones and that kind of stuff. I just figured I’d do it myself and grill on Sunday. Yeah, that was, um, I was, uh, shots was the place that my dad used to take the deer too, that they used to shoot and he was basically, you bring up a deer and then you come back later and it’s a couple of steaks, a couple bowls of chili, couple this couple that you know. Um, but yeah, I’m surprised. That’s great that they’re still around. I like hearing those stories from folks. So dude, what’s going on with zoom? Like one week they say they’re going to provide encryption next week. They say, they’re not. Then they say they are apparently now they are providing end to end encryption for free users. Yes. Because like, you know, when the CEO came out and said, we’re only gonna do it for the cops, um, your were not because of the cops and now they’re saying they’re going to do it. So like do people just not give a shit anymore? They’re going to use what they’re going to use and do whatever you want with it. Is that what it’s boiled down to? Um, I mean, hopefully they understood the blow back that happened. Um, I mean, let’s be real. Their whole thing is, you know, they they’ve taken, they’ve gotten a lot of boosts over this past few months. Um, and I don’t think they want to lose that. And, and that was causing a lot of negative PR for them. And so they realized, yeah, let’s go ahead and back down off that position. Well, I’m glad they like it. You know, basically they said since, uh, or they went and uh, went, if they’ve engaged with, uh, civil liberties organizations, a CSO council, child safety advocates, and encryption experts, government reps, their own users, they got feedback and they asked what they want and what they need. So like, I guess good on them for like, I guess getting eliciting. Uh, here’s the thing they’re writing a huge way right now. They could easily. Cause right now, um, teams is offering a personal version, Microsoft teams, um, Google’s, they’re, they’re all racing to catch up again. Screw you Google it like hard because like every time I set up a new calendar invite and say, make it a zoom meeting, they sneak a little join via Google meets button into there. Even when you say don’t do that, Hey Dave, geez, sorry that the free email service you don’t know Or inconveniences he’s slightly, but it’s not, it’s not a slight inconvenience dude. Like I’ve had show hosts and guests that have clicked the wrong link because it says it’s there and that’s what you should be clicking. And of course they put theirs above the zoom link. That’s actually the real thing Right now. Zoom is above on this one, this one right now zoom is above. Okay. But it’s not, you know, can you have you dicked with it to see if that’s a, that’s an opt out? Yeah. You can’t. I haven’t spent enough. Yeah. Then I, yeah, I will never be using Google meats. Thank you. No, there’s No, there Google makes me now. Yes. Oh, they’ll have impossible meat in, in not too long. That’s I’m sure that I’m so pissed that I don’t own meet up.com. We’ve talked about that for so long angry and we’d do it all in. Like we could do it all at barbecue places. I know. But so speaking of going virtual, um, I know Detroit startup week, uh, is going on currently and they went to an all virtual format this year, um, as did the Apple developers conference, which is kinda cool. Well, indeed, uh, Detroit startup week apparently had technical difficulties yesterday, like we did on Monday. Yep. That is one of the issues of, uh, doing these things virtually. But I think, you know, I think at this point, everybody is, uh, accepting of the fact that this shit is a perfect science unless, uh, you know, a must we’re, uh, you know, doing this over some sort of other platform or some streaming device, that’s not, uh, you work with the best you got. Yeah. I mean, hell we did. We’ve had technical difficulties in studio before. It’s not like, you know, I complete elimination of things. It just, this is one more thing that can possibly go wrong. It is what it is. No, I’m super happy to see the Detroit startup week is still a kind of doing what they do saw a nice little piece on a, it was a channel 62 or CBS or whatever with, uh, with Monica wheat. Yup. She looks great on TV as a she doesn’t person. But yeah, that was, uh, uh, that’s always a really, it’s amazing how many people, like she said, I think was it 10,000 or 30,000? They got through last year, uh, through the whole entire event. So that was a bill just chimed in the Lake breaking comment that said now he’s, we’re after the, uh, the Eskimo pie. Now he’s worried they’re coming for a Swedish fish and Spanish rice. That’s what, uh, I was going to say why it was Swedish bill, write a letter about Swedish fish. I’ll write one for, uh, I’ll write one for juice crackers in general, like saltines. Um, I don’t even know who owns them because they’re all like 70 different companies make them well, exactly. It’s like Xerox, it’s ubiquitous name now, but uh, yeah. Uh, what else needs to go like, yeah, I’m a, you know, here’s the thing, I don’t know. There’s, there’s a lot of people, like, I don’t want to keep harping on the angioma thing, but if you talk to like their family going, like, this was a kind of an amazing thing for our family and you know, like she worked 30 years for a, um, kind of what was the parent company at the time? Um, that eventually became Quaker oats. Yeah. Yeah. But like made a great living and, and, you know, came from, you know, obviously being a slave to like having this, having a living kind of a great life, uh, being the spokesperson for this brand and making a lot of money. It’s kind of a, I don’t want to say it’s a great story because it started off horrible. Um, but like, you know, you’re, you’re, you’re removing that. Um, so I don’t, you know, again, I don’t know where they’re going to go with it, what they’re going to call it. Um, well, and that’s, that’s, I think it will be interesting to see how that actually evolves. Um, Oh, and speaking of actually evolving, cause we’ve talked about these, did you see the story? And I forgot to shoot it across that apparently they are, uh, that are breaking down Chaz. Uh, finally apparently the, uh, the police department out in, uh, in Washington state has said, okay, we’re done this. This was a cute little experiment, but it’s time for it all to come down

WWDC 开完了，我们聊了聊 arm 的 Mac 和“更安卓”的 iOS 14听歌的介质听歌的耳机音乐流媒体哪家强

Ya han pasado 36 años desde que Steve Jobs presentara el primer Mac, en la emblemática keynote del Macintosh en 1984. Desde entonces Mac ha cambiado enormemente y poco a poco se ha convertido en una herramienta imprescindible en nuestra productividad. En este programa repasamos los años macqueros y tiramos de nostalgia para contaros cual fue nuestro primer Mac.También os hablamos de lo que esperamos de iOS 14 y de la privacidad en iCloud.Esperamos que os haya gustado y si queréis acceder a los EXTRAS de iSenaCode podéis haceros miembros VIP aquí: https://isenacode.com/vip¡Gracias por escucharnos!

Special guest Jason Snell returns to the show. Topics include BBEdit’s 25th anniversary, the saga of Word 6 for Mac in the 1990s, Mac iOS user interface differences (including an extensive discussion of Mojave’s craptacular “Marzipan” apps, and a few varying theories on what those apps portend), Photos on Mac and iOS, and, of course, keyboards.

RIP iPhoto & Aperture.  Apple has just release Yosemite 10.10.3 which not only includes the usual set of bug fixes and optimizations, it includes a brand new application, Photos.  Photos is the new application that replaces both iPhoto and Aperture. Although both of those applications will no longer be updated, they will continue to work for the foreseeable future.  We'll review some of the features and requirements of Photos and we'll discuss the consequence of moving to the new program. If you have questions, we urge you to not migrate your existing Library until you attend out meeting so you can ask them. We'll also talk about a few new utilities on the social apps scene that seem interesting and we'll show a tool that will help you determine if some of those phishing (scam) email messages you get once in a while are real or not.    And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

In 2014, Apple announced a few new products coming in early 2015. Well, it's now early 2015 and these products are getting closer to being released. The Apple Watch is reportedly in production and the upcoming Photos application for OS X (replacing iPhoto and Aperture) hsa been reported to be in the next update to Yosemite.  We'll talk about these upcoming releases and show you what we know (including some videos of Photos). Since there are a lot of utilties to help you clean up your iPhoto library, we'll talk about the things you can do to prepare your library to make the transition a little easier.  We'll also talk about some tools you can use on the Mac to access and extract data from your iOS devices that will allow to you get at data you normally won't be able to access with Apple's tools. Sometimes, this will be the quickest or only way to get at this data. This will be very handy part of our meeting.And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

January is CES month! Ben, Phil and other LAPUG members that attended will review what was shown in the iLounge area as well as the coming trends in consumer electronics for 2015.  We'll also focus on Sandvox. This is a really easy to use web site development tool. We'll show you how to create a web site and how to upload it to a web server. We'll also how you how easy it is to post updates and we'll do it live with our own LAPUG web site. And one more thing….Are you a slow typist? Are you tired of entering appointments and reminders in your iPhone with the keyboard? Want to know if you need an umbrella this weekend? Want to know how the Lakers or Clippers are doing? Want to know how Apple stock is doing? What about making a restaurant reservation for tonight? All that stuff can easily be done on the iPhone and iPad. But, you've got a personal assistant to do that for you and all you need to do is ask. One of Apple's most innovative features in iOS is also one of the most underused. This month, we'll spend some time going over all the ways you can use Siri to enhance your iOS experience and make your life a little easier. You already carry around your personal assistant. Why not talk to it once in a while and have it do things for you?   And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

OS X Yosemite has been out for a while and we're discovering new things it can do every day. This is a great release and it promises to be the best version of OS X yet. Join us at our next meeting as we review not only some great new features in Yosemite but also some must-have Yosemite add-ons you can use to supercharge your Mac.  Bring your Yosemite questions and we'll enjoy some Q&A to cap off a great 2014 in the Apple world.And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world, review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

OS X Yosemite is here! Not only that, we've got an update to iOS 8 that enables the collaborative functions of Yosemite and iOS working together even more closely. New iMacs and Mac Minis have been released, too!  We'll review all this news and we'll spend the most of our meeting going over lots of new Yosemite features and how they work in conjuction with iOS.  This will be the Mac meeting of the season as we all dive into two new operating systems! Don't miss this meeting!   And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

Wow! Lots of cool new stuff this month. iOS 8 has finally been released and we've got a pair of gorgeous new iPhones. Apple promises that Apple Pay will replace our credit cards and be the future of digital payments. Also, the mythical Apple Watch has been announced and we'll talk about what features we can expect from it.  We'll spend a good portion of our meeting going over a bunch of new features found in iOS 8 and how you can take advantage of them!   We'll also talk about why some graphics and images on screen don't always print out with the same colors. Color calibration is essential to make sure that what you see is REALLY what you get. Our hero, Garry Margolis, will give us an overview of color calibration and explain a few ways you make sure you get the best possible colors out your computer.     And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

Apple must be teasing as, once again, they've chosen the morning after our September LAPUG meeting to make some big announcements. They'll be doing the big show from the Flint Center for the Performing Arts in Cupertino and this is only the 4th time Apple has made an announcement from this location (with the first being the introduction of the Mac in 1984). The Flint Center seats 2,300 -- over seven times the capacity of Apple's on-Campus theater and over three times the capacity of the Yerba Buena Center in San Francisco which have been the locations of most of the non-conference events Apple has hosted in the last decade. In addition, many in the non-computer industry press have been invited to this event including many in the fashion industry.  All of this, along with the other rumors of what may be released, leads us to wonder how big of an impact these new products may have.   We'll spend our meeting discussing not only what we know about Yosemite and iOS 8 but also some speculation on what hardware products they Apple might and might not release this week.     And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

At our last meeting, we took a little survey of topics members would like us to cover at future meetings. One of those topics had to do with networking and the explanation of IP numbers, how they're given out, gateways, DNS, switches, routers, bridges, IP port numbers, port forwarding and all the mysterious stuff that Internet companies make you go through. It's important you understand what all these things are so that you'll be better equipped to troubleshoot networking issues with your computer equipment.  This could be a full day class for technical folks but we'll condense it into a short presentation in English for all to understand. Creating web sites can be an overwhelming experience. When Apple discontinued iWeb a few years ago, many people started looking for alternative tools. There are many out there like Rapidweaver, Dreamweaver and Everweb. This month, we'll talk about Sandvox and show you a quick and easy way to get great looking web sites with a bunch of bells and whistles. In light of recent discussions on the LAPUG list, we will once again talk about the importance of unique and strong passwords. And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

We're going to look at a few applications to help you get a little more productive in your personal and work lives. Apple provides some apps like Reminders to help you make lists of things to do. But, if you need to keep track of more things than simple to-do lists can handle, or if you need to manage multiple projects, there are lots of apps that can do that sort of thing. This month, we'll look at OmniFocus and how its ecosystem works between OS X and iOS devices.  We'll also look at streamlining things that need to be typed over and over to save you time and help make your typing consistent.  In addition, we'll review things you can do to keep your Mac lean and clean like cleaning out old apps and making sure that all your apps (including non-app store ones) are easily kept up to date.     And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) announcements brought lots of new stuff for the Apple world. Announcements for OS X Yosemite, iOS 8 and more! Join us for a recap and discussion of what we will be looking forward to playing with in the coming months. Bring your questions about the new stuff and how it all might affect you and we'll put it all in perspective. This stuff is cool!!!!And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

Moving forward with new releases of OS X sometimes means leaving things behind. With the introduction of Lion, Rosetta went away and we lost the ability to run old PowerPC apps (some of which never got updated to Intel). With the introduction of Leopard, we lost the ability to run Classic (OS 9) apps. Of course, pretty much everything is available to us in modern versions of OS X. But, what if you have data that needs to be read from some old app in an unsupported operating system or you need to run some utility that hasn't been written for a modern Intel-based Mac? You might feel stuck. Fortunately, there are some solutions. We'll talk about and demonstrate how to run PPC apps, Classic OS 9 apps as well as old Mac apps from the old days (like on a Mac Plus) all on a current Mavericks-based Mac. While we're on the subject, we'll also talk about running operating systems on the Mac making it the most universal computer available.   We'll also review some more products seen at Macworld | iWorld in March.     And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

The Busy Creator Podcast episode 10, with guest Web Designer Erica Heinz Erica Heinz (@ericaheinz) is a web designer in Brooklyn, NY. As a veteran freelancer, she's work for a variety of clients and sectors, lately focusing on fast development around humanitarian and public sector projects. She's also a teacher of web design, and of yoga. Together, Prescott and Erica discuss tools of the trade, best practices for web designers, how to continue to learn, and how to avoid becoming overwhelmed by systems. This episode features the most in-depth show notes to date, with a ton of links to websites, tools, and tips. Show Notes & Links Previous web designers on The Busy Creator Podcast, Niki Brown Erica does Humanitarian Work and Rapid-Responce work Occupy Sandy, built in 6 Days Peace Talks in Ireland for the Council on Foreign Relations A microsite for Richard Branson's B Team, done in 3 weeks Prototyping Prescott hates the term “Product Designer” in the realm of Web Design “Visual Designer” is a term that was fast outdated Description vs. Rank in terms of job titles Erica started in illustration, switched to design for the problem-solving Terms like “New Media” for early Internet instruction From fashion to packaging to software, Erica's freelance career Erica is an early adopter, but not bleeding edge Studiomates, bunch of smart people Using SASS to streamline a web workflow BusyCreator.com is really just the basics A Book Apart‘s books Parsons, The New School for Design ADOCHD (ADHD with OCD thrown in there) “I have CDO …” Blister pack of pills … for OCD “The Self-Licking Ice Cream Cone“ Not everything is a checkbox (I'm looking at you, Basecamp.) Getting Things Done philosophy “GitHub is the new View Source.” “HTML elements are like the alphabet.” Jen Simmons on Drupal.org Jonnie Hallman on Ruby on Rails “Do things the long, hard, stupid way.“ So-called “Hacker/Garage Culture” “A really good website lasts two years, and then it's gone.” Agile development EricaHeinz.com Tools SASS Digital Typography on the web: Adobe Typekit, @font-face, etc. HTML5 (with fallbacks) Codekit, a way to compile code locally on your Mac Coda, a text editor SublimeText, another text editor Emmet, CSS shorthand Chrome, and its extensions Safari, fewer extensions but many the same Awesome Screenshot, extensions 1Password, a Mac/iOS utility to store passwords Pinboard, social bookmarking for introverts Instapaper Dropmark, quick-saving of images, links Pocket, formerly Read It Later Stylebot, add a new CSS Bit.ly, for shortening Gimme Bar, for random stuff Browser Resize, for viewing your site in multiple sizes Pepperplate, for recipes Momentum, for new tabs Basecamp Kanban Flow Dragdis, a browser add-on to quick-save items Sprint.ly, collaboration for development Waffle.io, a Kanban board for GitHub issues TeuxDeux Multiple Inboxes for Gmail Coloured Stars add-on Pivotal Tracker (which Erica refuses to use) Slack, combines IRC and file changes, great for team communication Subversion LayerVault, version control for Photoshop Editorial.ly, collaborative writing Dropbox, with previous revisions Google Drive Skillshare Bourbon/Bourbon Neat CSS Mixins Code Academy Techniques Clarify team roles as to who does what (e.g. UX, front-end design, back-end dev.) Stay ahead of the curve to avoid headache later Use Post-Its on a wall; colour-code for different aspects Keep a postcard wall (outside of the computer) Rearrange your Top 3 on the board, use small Post-Its on top of the index cards Find a set of tools that work for you. You don't have to be up-to-date on everything. Go for 80%; let go of the compulsive tweaking of the last bit. Use three-letter client codes Use bullets to indicate time requirements (e.g. •••big effort, •not so much) Learn how to build stuff from scratch Be honest about what you should be doing in each moment Try yoga or breathing techniques Habits Systematize your projects for sharing and collaborating. Maintain the system, but not to a crippling degree. Keep email separated by inboxes Keep learning. Keep updating your workflows and skills. Erica's workflow Phase 1. Content and Site Map, Brand Erica's workflow Phase 2. Visual expression, typography, and details Erica's workflow Phase 3. Development, frameworks Comment your own HTML and CSS code (e.g. “// Trust me, keep this.”) Change your routines every once in a while Erica is a night owl, enjoys being “out of sync” Break your day into 2- or 3-hour chunks Keep “busy” work for later in the day, when your brain is tired

For those of you who have finished your taxes and won't be up all night, come on over and join us. We'll review the events from Macworld | iWorld and we'll talk about new products from the show. This is one of our highlights of the year as our week in San Francisco gives us an idea of what 2014 will bring us for third party products in the OS X and iOS worlds.And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A. What we discussed: OpenSSL/HeartbleedChange Passwords / 1Password on saleMacworld roundupThe RoostBakBone (Tablet Ring)Square Jellyfish (tripods)BodyGuardz Glass Screen ProtectorSKIVA USB Duo Micro and Lightning CableThe Glif TRIPOD Mount & StandContact Patch (http://www.contactpatch.biz/home/)FUZ Designs EverdockCloak (get cloak.com)Vivoprint.com (HbxFn14)LumoLift (lumobodytech.com)Robots & Pencils PencilCase (robotsandpencils.com)Geometrical Pocket Tripod (geometrical-inc.com)Tru Protection (truprotection.com)Moshi Versakeyboard (http://www.moshistore.com/versakeyboard-ipad-air-bluetooth-keyboard-stand-case#black)Parle DockIT (parleinnovation.com)FaceTune (facetuneapp.com)Prong Case (goprong.com)Super iPad Apps for Work — Macworld | iWorld Session given by Phil & Ben

Having an issue with your Mac or iPad? It happens sometimes and, generally speaking, it's not your fault. We'll go over some tips and tricks the troubleshooters use to help keep your devices in good working order. This is also an opportunity for your to come on by and ask some questions that have been stumping you so that you can get over that nagging OS X or iOS issue that's been hounding you for a while. And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

If Internet Companies were Countries http://jaysimons.deviantart.com/art/Map-of-the-Internet-1-0-427143215   North Korea's Red Star OS http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/right-click/north-korea-imitates-apple-os-x-latest-red-152414963.html   iOS Tips (forwarded by Dave Whitby) http://overbidme.com/questions_and_answers/amazing-tricks-every-iphone-and-ipad-user-should-know   Skybell Doorbell http://www.skybell.com   Haiku Premium Themes free (2/day Mon-Sat) In-app purchase   Olympics App   Adonit Jot Script   Pages2PDF   Michael Bateman Projector   Apps for Connecting to the Cloud DropBox SugarSync Box.net Documents Good Reader Files Connect Files United HighTail Office2 OnLive Desktop   And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

It's a brand new year and, with it, comes brand new stuff. Of course, the new MacPro is now shipping and some LAPUG users may have already received theirs. Within hours of it going on sale in late December, shipping dates were showing delivery in February so it may be some time before we get some real hands-on experience with it. Nevertheless, we'll discuss what it offers and if it's good time to get one. The 2014 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas is the week right before our meeting and since Ben, Phil and a few other LAPUG members attended, we'll have a wrap-up of new stuff that's relevant to iOS and OSX users. There's a whole area of the expo floor dedicated to iOS so we expect a lot of new products to be announced and shown. We'll bring the show to you! And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

The dust is settling with OS X Mavericks and new things are upon us. One of those things is a whole new set of iWork applications. We'll go over the apps along with the changes they bring. We'll also show you how to get so much more out of templates with iWork apps that can be used with both OS X and iOS versions of iWork. iWork apps on OS X and iOS also share their data over iCloud and we'll go over how that works as well as reviewing other apps that use cloud syncing as well.And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

New OS, New MacBooks, New iPads, Oh My!As expected, October brought us new stuff and we're pretty excited. OS X Mavericks is out and it's been a pretty good upgrade. Not only does it introduce several new features but it's free! New iLife and iWork apps are out and we'll go over those, too. If you haven't upgraded to Mavericks yet, we'll give you some tips for best practices of what to do before upgrading. If you have upgraded and you've upgraded iWork and iLife, too, we'll give you some tips for how to best take advantage of the new features. We'll also talk about the new iPad Air as well as the unreleased iPad Mini with Retina Display.And, of course, we'll go over some other current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

Well, WWDC is behind us and we'll discuss a few follow-up tidbits that we didn't get a chance to cover last month.  One of things that a has come up a few times is the topic of Apple IDs -- what they are and how to best manage them. We'll spend some time going over that in detail so if this has been an issue for you, please make it a point to come to this meeting.  In addition, well talk about a few other things affecting Mac and iOS users including the demise of Google Reader. We'll talk about alternatives and what apps are available to handle your RSS feeds. Some new really cool apps for helping you run your business on your iPad have cropped up and we'll go over that too. There are some great updates with Apple TV that have been released and we'll discuss that, too. And, of course, we'll go over some current events in the OS X world as well as review some cool Mac & iOS apps and leave some time for Q&A.

Isolation, etc. Pressed for time. "Off the cuff," uncut, unedited but brilliant. Mac iOS issues, but excellent quality. -The Real Me.