Podcast appearances and mentions of John Baldessari

We kick off Season 20 of The Unibrow's Radio Juxtapoz podcast with a conversation with Mexican-American, Los Angeles-based painter, Salomón Huerta. What started as scheduling a conversation with Huerta around the opening of his solo show Stillness, which opened at Harper's in NYC in the spring, and he and I wanting to catch up after Huerta lost his home in Altadena in the fires that ravaged Southern California in January 2025 became another conversation about fires in LA County: just as we click confirmation on our time to meet up, ICE raids throughout LA had put the city into shock, sparking mass protests, National Guard and Marines being brought to the streets to heighten tensions and has left the Mexican-American community in fear. Not only did Huerta want to talk about the current climate here but his own personal story of being an immigrant to America. Born in Tijuana, Mexico in 1965, his story is one of a meteoric rise in the fine art world (shows at Gagosian in 2001 just as he left UCLA) to soul-searching after his initial success to now creating some of the most personal works to date. There is so much of Huerta's story I didn't know, so on this episode of the podcast, I speak with him about the creation of his famed "back of head" portraits, the genesis of the gun paintings and how he began to develop the pool and home works he is know for now. And, of course, we talk about LA, how his community is rattled and what that means for him in the future. From a wild story of John Baldessari's sort-of critique of his MFA work, to an upcoming show at Marc Selwyn Fine Art, this is an honest must-listen. —Evan PriccoThe Unibrow's Radio Juxtapoz podcast⁠ is hosted by Juxtapoz editor, ⁠⁠⁠Evan Pricco⁠⁠⁠. Episode 166 was recorded in Los Angeles on June 11th, 2025. Music by Aesop Rock for The Unibrow

For the 35th episode of "Reading the Art World," host Megan Fox Kelly speaks with influential art dealer Michael Findlay about his captivating memoir, "Portrait of the Art Dealer as a Young Man," published by Prestel.This vibrant conversation takes listeners back to New York's electric downtown art scene of the 1960s and 70s, where Findlay directed one of SoHo's first galleries and launched exhibitions for artists now considered icons. With charm and wit, Findlay shares candid stories of his rise in the art world, recounting encounters with Andy Warhol, David Hockney, Jasper Johns, Robert Rauschenberg, and other creative forces that defined an era when appreciation for art outweighed its investment potential.Moving beyond nostalgia, Findlay provides sharp insights into how the art world transformed from the experimental downtown scene to today's global market. Through vivid anecdotes about The Chelsea Hotel, Max's Kansas City, and Studio 54, he recreates a New York where creative experimentation flourished without today's commercial pressures.Whether you're fascinated by cultural history, the evolution of the art market, or simply love a good story, Findlay's irreverent, honest perspective offers a fresh look at a pivotal moment when art dealers, artists, and collectors converged to create lasting cultural change.ABOUT THE AUTHOR One of the earliest dealers in SoHo, Michael Findlay showcased artists including John Baldessari, Joseph Beuys, and Hannah Wilke. Named Head of Impressionist and Modern Paintings at Christie's in 1984, he later became its International Director of Fine Arts. Since 2000 he has been a director at Acquavella Galleries, New York, which in recent years has held major exhibitions of important Impressionist, modern, and contemporary masters. His other books include “The Value of Art" and “Seeing Slowly – Looking At Modern Art.”PURCHASE THE BOOKhttps://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/746815/portrait-of-the-art-dealer-as-a-young-man-by-michael-findlay/ SUBSCRIBE, FOLLOW AND HEAR INTERVIEWS:For more information, visit meganfoxkelly.com, hear our past interviews, and subscribe at the bottom of our Of Interest page for new posts.Follow us on Instagram: @meganfoxkelly"Reading the Art World" is a live interview and podcast series with leading art world authors hosted by art advisor Megan Fox Kelly. The conversations explore timely subjects in the world of art, design, architecture, artists and the art market, and are an opportunity to engage further with the minds behind these insightful new publications. Music by Bob Golden

A conversation with Michael Findlay about his new book "Portrait of the Art Dealer as a Young Man: New York in the Sixties." In this generously illustrated memoir, Findlay traces his journey from his childhood in Scotland to his influential career in New York, where he directed one of the first art galleries in SoHo. We discuss his experiences launching solo exhibitions for artists like John Baldessari and Hannah Wilke, his relationships with iconic figures such as Andy Warhol and Ray Johnston, and his vivid recollections of the vibrant New York art scene of the sixties and seventies.https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/746815/portrait-of-the-art-dealer-as-a-young-man-by-michael-findlay/https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3791377264?tag=randohouseinc7986-20https://www.michaelfindlay.com/

Photo: Elon Schoenholz, courtesy of David Kordansky Gallery For over four decades, Raúl Guerrero (b. 1945, Brawley, California) has made work informed by his experiences navigating cultures as an American of Mexican ancestry in Southern California. In his paintings, photographs, video, and performance works, Guerrero utilizes language and cultural signifiers to examine notions of place as a way to understand personal concepts of self. An aspect of his work depicts—and critiques—colonial narratives in the Americas such as the settlement of the Great Plains, the history of Latin America, and imposed notions of the American “West.” With compositions fusing Mexican, American, and European visual traditions, he incorporates influences ranging from the readymades of Marcel Duchamp to conceptually-oriented practices associated with a preceding generation of California artists (including John Baldessari and Ed Ruscha) who emerged from Guerrero's alma mater, the Chouinard Art Institute. A long-time exhibiting artist on the West Coast, Guerrero reflects an intellectually rigorous approach suffused with humor and a deep engagement with legacies of visual art from Southern California and the Southwest. Raúl Guerrero has been the subject of solo exhibitions at David Kordansky Gallery, Los Angeles (2021); Ortuzar Projects, New York (2018); Air de Paris (project space), Romainville, France (2014); Athenaeum Music and Arts Library, San Diego, California (2001, 2007, and 2013); CUE Art Foundation, New York (2010); Long Beach Museum of Art, California (1977); Museum of Contemporary Art San Diego (1989); and San Francisco Art Institute, California (1977). Guerrero was included in the California Biennial 2022: Pacific Gold at the Orange County Museum of Art, Costa Mesa, California (2022–2023), and was the recipient of an NEA Photography Fellowship (1979) and the San Diego Art Prize (2006). Guerrero lives and works in San Diego. Raul Guerrero, Fernando y Isabela: 1494, 2023 oil on linen 56 1/8 x 76 1/8 x 1 5/8 inches (142.6 x 193.4 x 4.1 cm) Photo: Jeff McLane, courtesy of David Kordansky Gallery Raul Guerrero, Del Taco, 2023 oil on linen 56 x 76 1/4 x 1 1/2 inches (142.2 x 193.7 x 3.8 cm) Photo: Jeff McLane, courtesy of David Kordansky Gallery Raul Guerrero, The Alhambra: 1492, 2024 oil on linen 96 x 76 x 1 1/2 inches (243.8 x 193 x 3.8 cm) Photo: Jeff McLane, courtesy of David Kordansky Gallery

New Talk Art special episode!!!! We meet ICONIC artist Julie Mehretu, presented by BMW. #AD What does Julie Mehretu think about when creating BMW Art Car 20? Find out on this week's @TalkArt episode!@RussellTovey and @RobertDiament interview @JulieMehretu during the process for planning and creating #BMWArtCar20. To design #artcar20, Mehretu translates her signature multi-layered motifs onto the contours of the #BMWMHybridV8. Obscured photographs, dotted grids, neon-coloured spray paint and her iconic gestural markings create abstract visual forms across the body of the car. Mehretu's collaboration with BMW goes beyond the Art Car. Julie Mehretu and Mehret Mandefro (@drmehret), Emmy-nominated producer, writer and co-founder of the Realness Institute which aims to strengthen the media ecosystem across Africa, will host a series of gatherings across Africa in 2025 to create space for artists to meet, exchange, and collaborate in translocal ways. Follow @JulieMehretu and @BMWGroupCulture to stay in the loop for more sneak peeks of the next addition to this legendary car collection.Ideas of time, space and place are enmeshed in the work of Julie Mehretu. Drawing is fundamental to her practice, whether in works on paper, painting or printmaking. The artist's dextrous mark-making comes together in a characteristic swirl, an act of assertion in response to social and political change. ‘As I continue drawing,' she says, ‘I find myself more and more interested in the idea that drawing can be an activist gesture. That drawing – as an informed, intuitive process, a process that is representative of individual agency and culture, a very personal process – offers something radical.'The countdown for the unveiling of the 20th BMW Art Car is underway. On 21st May, the BMW M Hybrid V8, designed by artist Julie Mehretu and set to compete at the 24 Hours of Le Mans on 15th/16th June, will be presented at the Centre Pompidou in Paris, France. The artist is already providing glimpses into her work. Additionally, it is now confirmed that the Art Car will carry the starting number 20 and will be driven by Sheldon van der Linde (RSA), Robin Frijns (NED), and René Rast (GER). The #20 BMW M Hybrid V8 will be the first Art Car since the 2017 season, where the BMW M6 GTLM designed by John Baldessari raced at the 24 Hours of Daytona (USA), followed by the virtual BMW M6 GT3 Art Car by Cao Fei at the FIA GT World Cup in Macau (CHN). In the past, the most famous BMW Art Cars have participated in Le Mans: in 1975, Alexander Calder's BMW 3.0 CSL, in 1976, Frank Stella's BMW 3.0 CSL, in 1977, Roy Lichtenstein's BMW 320i Turbo, in 1979, Andy Warhol's BMW M1, in 1999, Jenny Holzer's BMW V12 LMR, and in 2010, Jeff Koons' BMW M3 GT2. This illustrious collection is now enriched by Julie Mehretu's BMW M Hybrid V8.For the design of the 20th BMW Art Car, Mehretu uses the colour and form vocabulary of an existing large-format painting from a more recent series of works: obscured photographs, dotted grids, neon-coloured spray paint and Mehretu's iconic gestural markings give her design an abstract visual form. She transfers the resulting image motif as a high-resolution photograph onto the vehicle's contours using a 3D mapping technique. This creates the unique artistic foiling with which the BMW M Hybrid V8 will compete in the Le Mans race. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ever wondered how a brush stroke influenced by the past can paint a future of unique artistic expression? This episode serves as your canvas, guiding you through the complexities of imitation and innovation in the art world. We start by unraveling the controversy of copying in art—a topic that often stirs heated debate among creators. Fashion mogul Yohji Yamamoto's provocative stance on imitation anchors our discussion, as we dissect the transformative journey from imitating the greats to developing one's own creative language. Whether you're a fledgling painter or a seasoned sculptor, this dialogue promises an enlightening exploration of artistic growth and the quest for originality.Imagine finding your artistic soulmate in the brushstrokes of Jean-Michel Basquiat, or in the cinematic genius of Woody Allen and Jim Jarmusch. This episode shares the tale of an art student who did just that, finding inspiration and a deep sense of purpose in the raw energy of Neo-expressionism and the underrepresented voices in art. But it's not just about who inspires us—it's about how we take that spark and fan it into a flame of our own. We delve into the stories of artists and mentors who have navigated these waters, sharing their wisdom on the importance of diverse influences and the beauty of artistic collaboration. Join us as we celebrate the gift of mentorship and the infinite possibilities that arise from truly listening and learning from one another.As we draw this episode to a close, we turn our attention to the sensory feast that is creative exploration. We emphasize the importance of engaging every sense to tap into the wellspring of creativity that surrounds us in the most ordinary moments. From the unexpected artistry of road salt patterns to the profound simplicity of a pen gliding across paper, we discuss how to cultivate an environment rich with stimuli that can propel your artistic endeavors forward. We sign off with a collection of thought-provoking quotes from a mosaic of artistic visionaries, beckoning you to seize your tools of creation and add to the ever-evolving tapestry of expression. So, connect with us, share your journey, and let's continue this conversation beyond the airwaves.Send us a message - we would love to hear from you!Make sure to follow us on Instagram here:@justmakeartpodcast @tynathanclark @nathanterborg

To Helen Molesworth, curating is much more than carefully selecting and positioning noteworthy artworks and objects alongside one another within a space; it's also about telling stories through them and about them, and in turn, communicating particular, often potent messages. Her probing writing takes a similar approach to her curatorial work, as can be seen in her new book, Open Questions: Thirty Years of Writing About Art (Phaidon), which culls together 24 of her essays written across three decades. For nearly 20 of those years, Molesworth served in various curatorial roles at museums and arts institutions including the Baltimore Museum of Art, the Institute of Contemporary Art Boston, and most recently, as the chief curator at the Museum of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles (MOCA). In the five years since her departure from MOCA, Molesworth has built a thriving practice as an independent curator, writer, and podcaster, notably as the host of the six-part podcast Death of an Artist, which was named a best podcast of 2022 by both The Economist and The Atlantic.On this episode of Time Sensitive, Molesworth discusses her lifelong engagement with the work of Marcel Duchamp; the transformative power of a great conversation; and the personal and professional freedom she has found in recent years as a roving, independent voice in the art world.Special thanks to our Season 8 sponsor, Van Cleef & Arpels.Show notes:[00:25] Helen Molesworth[03:50] Open Questions: Thirty Years of Writing About Art[04:02] Marcel Duchamp[04:09] “At Home with Marcel Duchamp: The Readymade and Domesticity”[11:33] “The Creative Act”[12:09] Marcel Duchamp's “Fountain”[17:22] Frank Stella[17:28] John Baldessari[21:56] Paul Lafargue[22:32] Doris Salcedo[29:50] Josiah McElheny[35:23] Al Hirschfeld[36:41] State University of New York at Albany[36:43] Whitney Museum Independent Study Program[36:48] Cornell University[42:33] “One Day at a Time”[46:57] Kerry James Marshall[47:00] “This Will Have Been: Art, Love & Politics in the 1980s”[47:02] “Leap Before You Look: Black Mountain College 1933-1957”[47:41] Death of an Artist[47:46] Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast[47:48] Recording Artists[54:53] Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles[54:51] Carl Andre[59:45] WBLS: The Quiet Storm

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My guest is Christina Végh, who since 2020 is the first woman director of Kunsthalle Bielefeld and before that was the first woman director of Kestner Gesellschaft, Hannover. Earlier on she headed the Bonner Kunstverein and worked as a curator at Kunsthalle Basel. Having been brought up in Switzerland in a cultured family, with relatives in Austria, Hungary, the former Czech Republic and the US, Christina learned early how to brigde differences and translate between languages, cultures and styles of communication. She tried herself in quite some fields, including goldsmithing, but in each of them ended up being fascinated by the historical aspects. Questioning how what happened before affects us know and shapes what is to come. She realized exhibitions with artists like Monica Bonvicini, Monika Baer, John Baldessari, Rita McBride, Haegue Yang, Charline von Heyl, Annette Kelm, James Richards, Franz Erhard Walther, Christopher Williams and Nicole Eisenman, to name but a few. She also was responsible for extensive group exhibitions, like „Where art can happen, the early years of Cal Arts“, co-curated by Philipp Kaiser – who was also a guest on this podcast - and „Made in Germany Drei“. Christina is also active on numerous committees and juries. In our conversation she talks about the different needs of a Museum vs. a Kunstverein and how art and exhibitions are related to specific places. One of her core interests, besides art and art history, was always architecture, which is the reason she felt drawn to the post at Kunsthalle Bielefeld, an architectural landmark by Philip Johnson. She reflects in depth on how she and her team will take on the task of renovating and extending the Museum in a meaningful and functional way. She speaks about the programming during the time the museum is under construction, in which there will be more projects in the city space, „meeting the city on new terms“ and including new types of audiences. She reflects on the deep need of humans to be connected with art and culture, especially in times of hardship. Christina Végh is mother of two children and lives with her family in Bielefeld, Germany. This Episode was recorded on 30 October, 2023 and published on 7 December 2023. 45 min, language english. Shownotes: https://kunsthalle-bielefeld.de/ https://kunstaspekte.art/person/christina-vegh https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_V%C3%A9gh https://van-horn.net/ #ChristinaVegh #KunsthalleBielefeld #VoicesOnArt #VanHornGallery #Podcast #Art #Life #Talk #Interview #Storytelling #DanielaSteinfeld

Shortlisted for the Independent Podcast Awards 2023. In this episode I discuss what happens when creatives get stuck and can't finish a piece of work. I explore ideas about what you can control in the process, and how chance, timing and patience factor in to what you can't control. There are wise words from the American artists Pope L and John Baldessari, and an interesting artwork of a clock face by the painter Josephine Halvorson.The Gallery Companion is hosted by writer and historian Dr Victoria Powell. It's a thought-provoking dive into the interesting questions and messy stuff about our lives that art explores and represents.To see the images and watch the videos discussed in the podcast visit www.thegallerycompanion.com. This is where you can subscribe to The Gallery Companion email list, which goes out to accompany each new podcast episode, and is packed full of links to more info. That's where you can share your thoughts and join the conversation too. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.thegallerycompanion.com/subscribe

Analia Saban talks to Ben Luke about her influences—from writers to musicians and, of course, other artists—and the cultural experiences that have shaped her life and work. Saban, who was born in 1980 in Buenos Aires and now lives in Los Angeles, examines, unpacks and plays with the medium of painting. She explores its materiality, its iconography and its history, reflecting on the origin and hue of colour pigments and the properties of media, the weave of canvas, the nature of brushwork, the conventions of depiction, and more. Her approach is consistent with the strategies of conceptual art yet it is abundantly physical and visual. She discusses her decision to move her studies from film to art after an epiphanic visit to New York museums; her profound friendship with her tutor at the University of California, Los Angeles, John Baldessari, and how it affects the presence of humour in her work; the perfect balance in the music of Keith Jarrett; and how Julia Kristeva's writings on abjection prompted some of the darker thoughts in her work. Plus, she gives insight into her life in the studio, and answers our usual questions, including the ultimate: what is art for?Analia Saban: Synthetic Self, Sprüth Magers, Los Angeles, and Tanya Bonakdar Gallery, Los Angeles, 15 September-28 October; Group exhibitions: Woven Histories: Textiles and Modern Abstraction, Los Angeles County Museum of Art (Lacma), 17 September–21 January 2024; Eternal Medium: Seeing the World in Stone, Lacma, until 11 February 2024; Chosen Memories: Contemporary Latin American Art from the Patricia Phelps de Cisneros Gift and Beyond, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, until 9 September. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Secession Podcast: Members is a series of conversations featuring members of the Secession. This episode is a conversation between the former and first female president of Secession Barbara Holub and the curator Rainer Fuchs. It was recorded on December 13, 2022. Barbara Holub lives and works in Vienna. Following her studies in architecture at the Technical University of Stuttgart, Holub developed a socio-politically engaged art practice. In 1999 she founded the collective transparadiso with Paul Rajakovics, which operates at the interface of art, architecture and urban intervention. From 2006 to 2007 Barbara Holub was president of the Secession. Since 1997, Holub has taught at the UIC/ School of Art and Design, Chicago, at the Vienna University of Technology, f+f School of Design and Media Design, Zurich, and the Universidad Católica, Valparaíso in Chile, among others. She has been a visiting professor at the University of Applied Arts Vienna, where she is currently a Senior Lecturer. She is a member of the editorial board of the journal dérive and a partner in the EU project SPACEX. Barbara Holub has been awarded numerous prizes (including the Austrian Art Prize, 2018) and has been part of international juries and advisory boards. In 2022, she most recently published the book Silent Activism. Rainer Fuchs (b. 1959 in Judenburg) studied art history, history, and philosophy in Graz. Since 1991, he has been the chief curator at mumok - Museum of Modern Art Foundation Ludwig Vienna. Past exhibitions include: Exhibition, 1994; Self Construction, 1996; Felix Gonzalez-Torres, 1998; Lois Weinberger, 1999; Öffentliche Rituale – Video/Kunst aus Polen, 2003; John Baldessari, 2005; Ryan Gander, 2006; Keren Cytter, 2007; Mind Expander, 2008; Painting: Process and Expansion, 2010; Aktionsraum 1, 2011; Dan Flavin 2012, Poetry of Reduction, 2012; Marge Monko, 2013; Space and Reality, 2014; Pakui Hardware, 2016, Nikita Kadan, 2017, Natural Histories – Traces of the Political, 2017; Ingeborg Strobl, 2020; Emília Rigova, 2022; On Stage, 2023.  Publikationen und Vorträge zur Kunst seit der Moderne. He has published publications and given lectures on art since the modern era. The Dorotheum is the exclusive sponsor of the Secession Podcast. Jingle: Hui Ye with an excerpt from Combat of dreams for string quartet and audio feed (2016, Christine Lavant Quartett) by Alexander J. Eberhard Editing Director & Editor: Christian Lübbert Programmed by the board of the Secession Produced by Christian Lübbert

Our third cameo compilation episode concludes Song by Song's journey through the film work of Tom Waits, with Leigh, Martin and Sam touching on the last decade of his screen appearances. This week considers Twixt (2011), The Laughing Heart (2003/2012), The Simpsons (2013), Citizen (2016), The Moon's Milk (2018), The Ultra City Smiths (2021), Licorice Pizza (2021) and a few others. Please pick up any spilled popcorn as you leave folks… website: songbysongpodcast.com twitter: @songbysongpod e-mail: songbysongpodcast@gmail.com Music extracts used for illustrative/review purposes include: Clips from The Simpsons 'Homer Goes To Prep School', dir. Mark Kirkland (2013) Clips from Twixt, dir. Francis Ford Coppola (2011) Clips from The Laughing Heart, dir. John Dullaghan/Travis Carr (2003/2012) Clips from A Brief History of John Baldessari, dir. Henry Joost/Ariel Schulman (2012) Clips from Citizen, dir. Alfonso Gomez-Rejon (2016) Clips from The Moon's Milk, dir. Ri Crawford (2018) Clips from Ultra City Smiths, dir. Steve Conrad/David H Brooks (2021) Clips from Licorice Pizza, dir. Paul Thomas Anderson (2021) (Meet Me In) Paradise Alley, Paradise Alley OST, Tom Waits (1978) We think your Song by Song experience will be enhanced by hearing, in full, the songs featured in the show, which you can get hold of from your favourite record shop or online platform. Please support artists by buying their music, or using services which guarantee artists a revenue - listen responsibly.

Joan Kee, University of Michigan art historian and current Ford Foundation Scholar in Residence at the Museum of Modern Art, talks about: Her residency at MoMA, where she has been looking into expanding their programming to include art that is more international/not from the U.S., but from the ‘global majority;' her career trajectory, from art history in undergrad to law school and then corporate lawyer for long enough to pay off her $100+K in debt, a calculation she was able to make partially due to her poker-playing experience); the obstacles she faced getting into a PhD art history program with her focus on modern and contemporary Korean art, and how she strongly believes that tuition for BA and MA programs are completely out of control (for out-of-state students at U. or Michigan, where she teaches, it's currently 70K/year); her interest and expertise with emojis, including her repeated attempts to get a kimchi emoji approved by Unicode, the world text and emoji consortium (she also taught emojis in a graduate seminar); artists working in emojis, including Rachel Maclean, Laura Owens, John Baldessari and Antoine Catala, the latter whose work she calls the best emoji work she's ever seen; the benefits and challenges of living in Detroit, and why she chose to live there instead of Ann Arbor, where she teaches; how she's the first full professor of color in her department; how her book, “Contemporary Korean Art: Tansaekhwa and the Urgency of Method,” was turned down nine times before it was accepted by U. of Minnesota Press, and subsequently led to a show she curated at Blum & Poe in L.A.; and the state of the art scene in Seoul, including the challenges for younger/smaller galleries' survival amidst a pricey real estate market that's regularly gentrifying.

Andrew & Polly and their friends think about STEPS - the kinds you take with your feet, like when you go on a walk with mom, or when you have an idea for a sandwich, paper airplane - or amazing art project. We interview an alien, our friends, and art legend John Baldessari who died in January, 2020 at the age of 88. Many thanks to Malcolm, Jonas, Milena, Sady, Ella, and to Patrick Pardo for arranging our interview with Mr. Baldessari. You can learn more about John Baldessari at baldessari.org or at most modern art museums. Or via this epic 6-minute biography narrated by Tom Waits. For more information or to be on the show, visit earsnacks.org. And thanks to Shopify for supporting Ear Snacks. Go to Shopify.com/earsnacks for a FREE fourteen-day trial and get full access to Shopify's entire suite of features.

(Originally recorded January 6, 2020) recorded Conceptual art giant John Baldessari died at age 78 just after the new decade dawned. This tribute to him was recorded as news of the passing broke.

Stephen Wozniak interviews celebrated conceptual artist, writer, professor and curator Ken Lum on the May 3, 2022 episode of Art World: The Whitehot Magazine of Contemporary Art podcast. They discuss Ken's current comprehensive survey exhibition, Death and Furniture, now on view at the Remai Modern Museum in Saskatoon, Canada through May 15th; his new series, Time. And Again. about the intersection between work and stress; stories of Ken's early entry into the New York art world and engagement with mentors and artists Dan Graham, Joseph Kosuth, and John Baldessari; and his key leadership of the non-profit organization Monument Lab, which addresses the transformation of past, present and future public monuments. Art World: The Whitehot Magazine of Contemporary Art Title: Wozniak Interviews Ken Lum Guest Host: Stephen Wozniak Guest: Ken Lum Date: May 3, 2022 Time: 36 minutes --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/noah-becker4/support

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John Baldessari decided first to transform the main doors of UCSD's iconic Geisel Library and then to incorporate the entire lobby space, choosing students as his subject. The existing clear glass of the doors was replaced with glass in primary colors, perhaps suggesting primary sources of information. As the doors open and close, the colored panes cross over each other, visually mixing into new colors. Above the doors the words READ, WRITE, THINK and DREAM echo the exhortation Baldessari gave his students to remember that beyond the day-to-day grind comes the chance to contemplate the unexpected and envision new worlds. Baldessari, once again, has absorbed the culture around him, using the latest techniques to create a collage juxtaposing photographs, words, and colors, which all loop back on each other to spark new associations and thoughts. Series: "Stuart Collection at UC San Diego" [Arts and Music] [Show ID: 37820]

John Baldessari decided first to transform the main doors of UCSD's iconic Geisel Library and then to incorporate the entire lobby space, choosing students as his subject. The existing clear glass of the doors was replaced with glass in primary colors, perhaps suggesting primary sources of information. As the doors open and close, the colored panes cross over each other, visually mixing into new colors. Above the doors the words READ, WRITE, THINK and DREAM echo the exhortation Baldessari gave his students to remember that beyond the day-to-day grind comes the chance to contemplate the unexpected and envision new worlds. Baldessari, once again, has absorbed the culture around him, using the latest techniques to create a collage juxtaposing photographs, words, and colors, which all loop back on each other to spark new associations and thoughts. Series: "Stuart Collection at UC San Diego" [Arts and Music] [Show ID: 37820]

John Baldessari decided first to transform the main doors of UCSD's iconic Geisel Library and then to incorporate the entire lobby space, choosing students as his subject. The existing clear glass of the doors was replaced with glass in primary colors, perhaps suggesting primary sources of information. As the doors open and close, the colored panes cross over each other, visually mixing into new colors. Above the doors the words READ, WRITE, THINK and DREAM echo the exhortation Baldessari gave his students to remember that beyond the day-to-day grind comes the chance to contemplate the unexpected and envision new worlds. Baldessari, once again, has absorbed the culture around him, using the latest techniques to create a collage juxtaposing photographs, words, and colors, which all loop back on each other to spark new associations and thoughts. Series: "Stuart Collection at UC San Diego" [Arts and Music] [Show ID: 37820]

American painter David Salle has been a creative force for decades. As a part of the Pictures Generation, his colorful and magnetic canvases are explored as part of a major retrospective at the Brant Foundation. On this episode, Dan speaks with David about how he studied under John Baldessari, why he thinks artists never retire, and why he chose to create his first NFT. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Episode 88 features Kate Fowle, the Director of MoMA PS1. From 2013-2019 she was the inaugural chief curator at Garage Museum of Contemporary Art in Moscow and director-at-large of Independent Curators International (ICI) in New York, where she was the executive director from 2009-13. Prior to this she was the inaugural international curator at the Ullens Center for Contemporary Art in Beijing (2007-08). In 2002 she co-founded the Master's Program in Curatorial Practice for California College of the Arts in San Francisco, for which she was the Chair until 2007. Before moving to the United States, Fowle was co-director of Smith + Fowle in London from 1996-2002. From 1994-96 she was curator at the Towner Art Gallery and Museum in Eastbourne, East Sussex. Fowle's recent projects include solo exhibitions with David Adjaye, Rasheed Araeen, John Baldessari, Sammy Baloji, Louise Bourgeois, Marcel Broodthaers, Urs Fischer, Rashid Johnson, Irina Korina, Robert Longo, Anri Sala, Taryn Simon, Juergen Teller, and Rirkrit Tirivanija, as well as extended essays on Ilya Kabakov, Sterling Ruby, and Qiu Zhijie, and numerous extended articles on curating and exhibition histories. Fowle has written three books: Exhibit Russia: The New International Decade 1986-1996 (2016); Rashid Johnson: Within Our Gates (2016); and Proof: Francisco Goya, Sergei Eisenstein, Robert Longo (2017) Photo by James Hill MoMA Bio https://www.moma.org/about/senior-staff/kate-fowle PS1 https://www.moma.org/ps1 NYTimes https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/arts/design/greater-new-york-new-museum-performa-biennial.html Artnet News https://news.artnet.com/art-world/art-world-works-home-kate-fowle-1892064 Architect Magazine https://www.architectmagazine.com/practice/kate-fowle-appointed-director-of-moma-ps1_o Call for Curators https://callforcurators.com/blog/kate-fowle-appointed-director-of-moma-ps1/ Auckland Art Gallery https://www.aucklandartgallery.com/page/judge-announced-for-the-walters-prize-2021-opening-this-weekend-at-auckland-art-gallery-toi-o-tamaki

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Subscribe to Quotomania on Simplecast or search for Quotomania on your favorite podcast app!Tom Waits has built a career as varied as there are creative outlets—delving into cinema (both composing and acting), musical theater, opera, live performance, and literature—yet seamlessly interweaving a truly distinctive and fully-realized persona. The tools of his trade have included such things as the marimba, trombone, brake drum, metal aunglongs, banjo, bell plate, bullhorn, conga, accordion, optigon, mellotron, maracas, pump organ, basstarda, chamberlain, harmonium, viola, sticks, chairs, a musical saw, as well as the regular old guitar, bass, piano and drums and, of course, his trademark gravelly voice.For more information about Tom Waits:Previously on The Quarantine Tapes:Elizabeth Gilbert on Waits, at 27:53: https://quarantine-tapes.simplecast.com/episodes/the-quarantine-tapes-155-elizabeth-gilbertSunita Puri on Waits, at 11:40: https://quarantine-tapes.simplecast.com/episodes/the-quarantine-tapes-108-sunita-puriNaomi Shihab Nye on Waits, at 22:35: https://quarantine-tapes.simplecast.com/episodes/the-quarantine-tapes-073-naomi-shihab-nyeTom Waits Website: http://www.tomwaits.comMore Than Rain performed by Tom Waits: https://youtu.be/pUB1uMZgYoIA Brief History of John Baldessari, featuring Tom Waits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU7V4GyEuXA

Kimberly Brooks is a contemporary American artist and author. Kimberly integrates landscape, figuration and abstraction to address subjects of history, memory and identity. Her work has been exhibited and featured internationality.Kimberly received her bachelor's degree in literature from U.C. Berkeley, and was Valedictorian. She has taught art as a lecturer and adjunct faculty instructor, and was a featured speaker at TEDx Fullerton.In this episode, I talk with Kimberly about her work as an artist, author, and editor. We talk about how she uses ConvertKit to reach and grow her audience. We talk about what people can learn from fine art, and apply it to their newsletters. We also cover the path to becoming a successful creator, and much more.In this episode, you'll learn: The secret to achieving your breakthrough moment A job most creators should charge for, but rarely do What you should be doing instead of blogging Should you be posting on Instagram? Links & Resources Huffington Post ConvertKit Craft and Commerce Steve Jobs John Baldessari Adobe Photoshop Adobe Leonard Shlain Milton Glaser Macworld Walt Disney's Imagineering Warner Music Group Seth Godin Leonardo da Vinci Arianna Huffington Huffington Post: Fine Art Later Anderson Ranch Arts Center Otis College of Art and Design Kimberly Brooks's Links Find Kimberly on Instagram Kimberly's website Kimberly's Ted Talk Huffington Post article, “The Gap Logo, New Coke and the Legendary Walter Landor” Kimberly's book, The New Oil Painting Episode Transcript[00:00:00] Kimberly:The fundamental way to learn is, you imitate, assimilate, and then you can improvise with anything. You're going to be thwarted in the beginning many times, and you can't give up. You have to say, “Okay, well, I don't care if it sucks. I don't care if I'm going to fail. If I'm gonna fail, I'm gonna fail big. Let's just go on.”[00:00:29] Nathan:In this episode I talk to Kimberly Brooks. She is a fine artist. So, painting, she has all of her art in galleries, that whole world, which is super fascinating to me. She also plays in the creative world. Newsletters, podcasts, and interviews.She built the whole art editorial section of the Huffington Post. She built that to millions of readers. She's done all kinds of things in the design community from the early days. So, we riff on that; Mad Men-style ad agencies in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Some great stuff.Then she brings it all the way through to talking about what she does with ConvertKit. How she sets up her sequences, and everything else, and things that people can learn from fine art, and apply to their email newsletters and sequences.So, it's a fun episode. We have to do a part two, because we filled up all the time we had, and I think I only got through half my questions.So, anyway, I'm going to get out of the way and dive in. So, here we go.Kimberly, welcome to the show.[00:01:37] Kimberly:Thank you for having me, Nathan.[00:01:39] Nathan:There's so many things I to talk about, because you come to the creator world from a different perspective than I do, though we both share a love for Photoshop.[00:01:50] Kimberly:Oh, yeah.[00:01:51] Nathan:We'll start with where we met. It was at Craft and Commerce, some number of years ago.I can't even think. Three years ago? Four?[00:02:01] Kimberly:I think it was three years ago, and it was such a random whim. I don't even know how I ended up finding it. I fell in rabbit hole. And then I came upon ConvertKit.I was actively looking for a better way to send art show announcements. Because I'm a painter, I'm an artist.I just felt after my previous experiences, I knew how important having a subscriber-based service was. I don't want to get too nerdy, but I didn't really like the competitor who shall remain unnamed. But, I found you guys, and I started getting the advertisement for the conference, and it was in Boise, Idaho.And so I thought, I'll just go. It was like a Ted conference for really creative nerdy people like me, but it was exactly what I was wanting. It was about marketing, which is really such a weird word because it's really about sharing, and I loved the title.I loved everything about it. I met some of the people that I'm really, really close with now. Then the next year it was canceled because of the pandemic, but it was amazing, and I met you, actually.[00:03:28] Nathan:And, and we had a really fun conversation. one thing that I want to talk about, for you is the intersection between fine art, right. And painting and that world. And then now you're also in this world of being a writer and a creator in the sense, right. You you've been a writer and creative for a long time, but, but it's, it's like a different world of the selling things to your audience.And. Earning money directly in that way. And so I want, like, I want to hear that as you like weave in and out of these two worlds and then just your experience there.[00:04:02] Kimberly:Yeah, it's interesting. I, when I was in elementary school, we had a really competitive game of tetherball constantly going on on the playground. And it was just sort of that pole with a ball attached to a rope we would, people would line up and we would get it, and it was, see how many times, and it was just sort of like, it was very intense and I always felt like being an artist.Being an art to me was it was the pole, you know? So like my pole is art is making art and everything about what I do. I write about it. I interview people about it. I interview other artists about their work. I make paintings 90% of the time in my studio. Like, it's all about art, you know? So that's like the beginning.So I do see myself sashaying between different worlds. And I think everybody kind of does that. And then as the bicycle of technology was being built to use kind of like a vague reference to like Steve jobs is, you know, what happens if you put a man on a bicycle and you know, like how fast can he, as the bicycle was kind of entering our world, I thought, what if you kind of mixed art with the bicycle?You know, what, what happens if you, you know, Make an artist's website. So I was like one of the first people I knew that made an artist's website. And I remember, it was, I had, was having lunch with my mentor. Who's, the late John Baldessari. He was a great, great, great artist. And, he's famous for, you know, he burned all this stuff and graduate school and then became a conceptual painter, you know, very, you know, Howard work in, you know, conceptual anyway.So I brought my laptop to this Mexican restaurant in Venice, and I said, I wanted to show you something. I made a website and our studios were really near each other. And he said, Oh, I, I don't know if I would do that. If I were you, I was like, why not? He said, because you're, you'll piss off the dealers, the galleries, the galleries, you shouldn't be selling directly.It's going to take away from what their job is. You know, when you hang a show and you have art in the gallery, the gallery is selling the artist and it's their job, you know, and artists are supposed to be kind of this, you know, semi mute, black turtleneck wearing, you know, mysterious, mystical ShawMan goddess.I call it goddess on the hill. Like you're not supposed to really get in the way of what your artists about. And so I thought, oh gosh, you know, this is, and I had put the paintings for a show was about to have. And so I started making, so my postcard for that show had the name of the show and it had the name of the website, cause no galleries had website.Then this is in like the two thousands, you know, this is a long time ago. And I remember meeting people when I handed them a postcard. If like I felt comfortable with them, I would like secretly write a password so that they could see the website,[00:07:20] Nathan:Oh was you were, you had the website, but it was[00:07:24] Kimberly:Yeah. So I password protected it. I password protected it because John Baldessari told me that it's probably not a good idea to have a website.This is again, no artists ad website.[00:07:35] Nathan:How did the galleries and the community[00:07:37] Kimberly:The galleries didn't have websites either. And the galleries, I remember. They started it. Like some of them had websites, but it was super janky. It was like sometimes most of the time they did an, and it was just sort of this mysterious world that 99.9, nine, 9% of the public didn't understand.Doesn't understand it's better now. And you'd have to be walking down the street or you'd have to know somebody who knows somebody, you know, it's, it was just a different world then.[00:08:08] Nathan:But did any of those negative things come about? Like, did anyone look down on you on it for having a website and for[00:08:14] Kimberly:No, no, no. Eventually I just said, screw it. And I took the password off.And, interestingly, I don't want to date myself, but I think I already have, but the at the time flash was very. sexy. And it was like, and so artists would have, if they did have website, firstly, they would be horribly designed and they would have like a flash animation of a curtain opening and a door.And it was very like CD rom mentality. Like, you know, it was pre-internet thinking, you know, anyway, like I said, the big nerd here.[00:08:48] Nathan:Flash was big until 2000, like the iPhone 2007.[00:08:52] Kimberly:Until Steve jobs killed it, just took a knife. He took a sword and he just, during a keynote, just, you know,[00:09:01] Nathan:Yeah. Oh, and the two biggest reasons were, that the bandwidth of the phones couldn't handle it. And then also the battery life on the phones couldn't handle it.[00:09:10] Kimberly:Wasn't there another reason there was another technical reason that had to do with plays well with others. I can't remember exactly what it was,[00:09:20] Nathan:Yeah. I mean, it was a restricted technology. Like it was owned Macromedia. And so probably that apple was trying to do to get to play. And Adobe was playing hardball and apple was probably like, okay,[00:09:31] Kimberly:Yeah,[00:09:32] Nathan:You know, we'll play this[00:09:33] Kimberly:Yeah. It was, was, it was, it was just the evolution of, you know, of Photoshop and Adobe products. And so I grew up with Adobe. I learned I was an early adopter, always, you know, I just sort of like analogy. Yeah.[00:09:49] Nathan:I want to dive into all kinds of things. I want to talk about, more in the financial world and the business of that and everything else. But back and maybe start earlier in your career.[00:10:01] Kimberly:Than elementary school.[00:10:04] Nathan:I guess we didn't go to elementary school a little bit after elementary school. What what did the early days of your career look like[00:10:12] Kimberly:I was a, you know, I'm a first, or I guess I'm a second generation American, so, and I'm Jewish. So of course I was supposed to be a doctor. So my, we used to get, you can be anything you want just as long as you're a surgeon first. So I got the makings of a woman's surgeon and, you know, it was just like, as a book that was a book that I received many times in my middle school years.And then, you know, it was like, that's great, you're so talented. But you know, you really, you know, after you get out of medical school, you can, it was just sort of what you did in my family. And, and my father he was a well-known surgeon and he became an, I don't want to say artist. He became a writer, so he's a well-known writer.And he started writing. So he kind of became an artist before my eyes, you know, so as I was getting out, as I was graduating college, he published his first bestselling. That was just, and I would like sit at the book, you know, when he gave a lecture at an art gallery, because it was called art and physics.His name is Leonard Shlain so I would like sell, watch him, sell the books, you know, like give a lecture and then I would check out and I would get, take people's cash and then give them a book, you know, at the end of the lecture. And he used to tell me, he used to say, honey, you have to be shameless.You have to be willing to just talk in front of four people. It doesn't matter. You just need to do it. If it's just, it was just a big, it did. It made an imprint on me because I was watching him grow out of his own discomfort zone, which I still struggle with of talking to people like instead of through your paintings or, you know, talking to an audience saying being on video, it took me six months to figure out how to be on video, but I'm getting ahead of it.So you asked me like my CR about my career. So I was an English major. I went to an English, major architecture, minor at UC Berkeley. And at the time that I was graduating, painting was considered dead. And I know that that for artists today, they don't quite appreciate that. But after abstract expressionism, there was sort of this mood in the art world that everything had been done and like, forget about figuration was the last thing people wanted to see, you know, and I wanted to paint people.So I just figured, okay, I'm going to just do that on my own, but I'm going to, I love reading. I love writing. So I became an English major and I was valedictorian of, of the UC Berkeley English department. And so my first job, I wanted to combine my love for art and literature. So my first job was.Design. So my, so I, was mentored by a gentleman named Walter Lander, who is the founder of landlord associates. And he was sort of the west coast, Milton Glaser, Milton Glaser from a design point of view, like he was, he just recently passed in the last five or so years, but he like did the, I love New York, you know, like he's this famous, famous graphic designer because the field of graphic design is, is relatively new.It's relatively, it's like a century old, you know, like th the serious field of it. And Walter was a pioneer in it. And he did, you know, my first job was like working cause I, cause I minored in architecture was, helping design the shell oil, gas station, you know,So I was doing like architecture design, and then he asked me to write speeches.And so they had, their company was kind of designed like a brain. So they had like a language division and they had like the design division, like they did the loose soon milk and they were so famous then such leaders. They had 1800 people in offices all over the world and it was like a big deal. And they had an office on a ferry boat.So that was my first job out of college. I was a speech writer for Walter and I was in the, I was in the word department. Like I think I designed, I helped name, a cigarette, you know, like was just a weird, but it was fascinating, you know? And it was meeting fascinating people. The grateful dead would like come over on the boat after it was, it was, it was a wild time at, in San Francisco in the late eighties, early nineties.Totally wild. So, So I was like, so all the designers are starting to learn Photoshop. So there was this thing called Photoshop because they were doing everything by hand, you know? And then I was like, oh, so I got Photoshop 1.0, you know, and then I had th there was no layers. So you had to do everything in alpha channels.And it's interesting just to be a big nerd. Cause you're a designer too, right? I mean that's yeah. Yeah. So if you can try to imagine there was Photoshop without layers, it meant that you had to do everything inside the masking tool that's built in that nobody really uses or knows about now called alpha channels.So I had to create everything using masks, but it was very oddly more similar to what you did with your Exacto knife and ruler, know, I still think one of the biggest, the saddest things about Photoshop. I mean, I think everybody should know it, but it has some feature bloat, but I think it kind of buries the power of alpha channels.And I think that if people knew how to use it, it would like, it's like a little thing to know that would hugely leap them out of the more artificial aspects of doing those filters on things.[00:16:00] Nathan:Right.[00:16:01] Kimberly:Anyway, like I you have to be careful with me because I can go into real. I can crawl real deep into these nerdy things.But anyway,[00:16:08] Nathan:Are there other things from those early days of, of the graphic design art agency, like that kind of world, that you still take with you today[00:16:19] Kimberly:Thousands of Gillian percent. One of them is the four DS that every project is discover, design develop, deploy. And I know I lost that. I also saw that, like, if you could name it, you could charge it.[00:16:32] Nathan:Is there a story behind that? If you could name it, you could charge for it.[00:16:35] Kimberly:You know, you'd see these hundreds of thousands of million dollar contracts going out to these major people. And I used to have to help write the proposals and I would see how they would divide they'd phase out, like a lot of designers. Again, I don't, I hope we're so not too off topic, but a lot of designers will not charge for discovery.You know what I mean? Because they haven't named it. They didn't name it They'd Just be like, oh, let me Research all about your company. And then you're going to pay me to give you some designs, and then I'll give you the designs and then hopefully they're smarter. Anyway, like I said, big, big topic.[00:17:10] Nathan:Yeah. But think there are a lot of people listening who are in the either freelance or agency space and they, provide services to newsletters or creators or they're growing their own on the side. And I think it's a really important point that, if you're if you're structuring your proposals and all your interactions with clients around the deliverable, then you're failing to talk about a substantial portion of the work And probably the part of the work that differentiates you from the other freelancers who are just like, oh, you need a logo. And they dive like right into Photoshop or whatever tool. Whereas if you're good at what you do, you're probably taking a step back and looking at the whole landscape and spending probably more than half of your time in that Research discovery and learning stage rather than the deliverable stage.[00:17:56] Kimberly:It's actually the most important time intensive stage of any project. And so not just design. I mean, I think you saw my Ted talk, the creative process in eight stages. And I think I talked about how as an artist, I don't want to give anybody whiplash, but like you, as an artist, you have, a period of time where it's like a rest in music where you don't, you're not making work.It doesn't look like you're doing anything on the outside, but that's the most important part. And it's when. Gathering, but you're doing it in a subconscious, like in many different ways when I'm, when I'm making a painting, I'm having to listen a lot, you know, you have to listen and look and just inhale before you can exhale.So anyway, that, but I mean, we could, I think, I think we could do a whole hour on Landour. Cause that was just a, such an interesting, you know? And, and I was actually, I was actually there, I dunno. Well, you're, you probably weren't born, but there was a, Coke released a new design and they, they, and Landour was the leader of this new design.And I was like in the boardroom, in my. In pantyhose. Cause that's what we that's what, like you had aware that it was very far, it was like mad men. It was like mad men where like everybody smoked and the women were gorgeous and the men would like have these glass offices on the side of the boat. And they would like go in and light up a cigarette and call London, you know, like they were like, or Japan and, and they had, it was just extreme, chic, crazy environment, very male dominated.And I was like, I'll often the lone woman in a room, you know, but anyway, that's a separate side conversation and they were introducing the new Coke and it was a flop. It was like, it was like, there was a backlash against the new design because it had like big fat. It was like, whereas the old Coke kind of has that Victorian, which they still use now that, that very Sarah fee or Nate almost like your create above your head, but more, you know, whereas.Where the new version they were doing was super kind of chunky. It was like new Coke, you know, anyway. But, it was a wild experience. I wrote an essay about it and I'll, I'll give it to you if you, if[00:20:35] Nathan:Yeah, we'll put it the Shona[00:20:36] Kimberly:Yeah,[00:20:38] Nathan:On time on that.[00:20:39] Kimberly:Yeah, no, the whole, here's the thing. I wanted to be an artist, and a lot of times I believe a lot of, and I believe there's a lot of people who have an artist inside them and a lot of times they will, work in a field that brings them near art decisions to make themselves feel better.That they're not being an actual artist. And I was one of those people.[00:21:08] Nathan:Okay. So how did that play out for you of your you're close to the design and that sort of[00:21:14] Kimberly:I was like, yeah, it was, I couldn't be closer. I was like, I was like in, I was behind the curtain of Oz doing the, with the, with the best people and everything. Again, this is so long ago, but, but I felt like technology at the time, again, Photoshop was just starting. There was no whatever. I was like, you know, I needed, I need a break.I need to like push the table over. So I quit. I moved to Paris to paint for a year. I played piano in bars at night. That was like a whole other wild. We could do a whole show on that, but, you know, then I was like, well, I can't, I'm not going to be able to make a living doing this. Like I was painting, I was sitting at the sore bone and I was like, I had this little gig in this bar, but it was a couple of Franks and I wasn't legal in Paris.And I just had this big because of my literature background I have does such a, you know, I love you. I was so somewhat of afraid.[00:22:11] Nathan:So how old were you when you[00:22:14] Kimberly:I was in my early twenties.[00:22:16] Nathan:Okay. When you, quit and said it's time to do painting.[00:22:20] Kimberly:Yeah. I was like, it wasn't a straight line. And that's another thing. Like most artists don't like some artists grow up and everybody goes, oh, you're so talented.Which by the way, like hate that expression. I must like tell people, like don't ever tell people they're talented. Say you have great raw material, you know, just say, you know, just like great mom material, but like, you have to like do it for eight hours a day in order to like express something. Great. And then, then we'll talk about talent, but in any case, so some people have parents that say, you're honey, you're so talented.I want to send you to art school. I want to spend a couple hundred grand and I'm going to send you to art school. Undergrad, let's say a good, let's say a typical artist, a college education is this amount. And then I want you to get an MFA from Yale or the best school and have that checked off. And then I want you to go get in galleries and be an artist there's 0.01% of artists have that route.They have parents that say, we support this. This is good. This is a good plan. I would say that's like a very rarefied small group. Cause you have to have, well, there's so many things that need to happen in order to have that setup. Most people, most artists, even artists that I know, like one of my good friends Enrique he was a PA getting his PhD in physics read my dad's book, art and physics and decided he wanted to be a painter[00:23:49] Nathan:Okay,[00:23:50] Kimberly:So like, there's a whole bunch of artists that were doctors that were lawyer, you know, that, that, that they, they were catching the train of you know, the I'm a good student, I'm a diligent worker and they, they, you get routed onto a track and then you're on that track. And then suddenly you wake up at at 30 or whatever, and you say, you know, I'm here and I'm super successful, but this isn't necessarily really how I want to be spending my time.You know? I mean, th this is the conversation, right? You know, how do you, how do you decide and what you can want changes in your life? You know, but if you know what you're pull, the tether poll is like, if you know what, your deep inner core desires. are And, you know, and you, you have, you're remotely in touch with that and you, you need to go, you need to go towards that light.You need to go towards that center then everything will radiate out from you afterwards.[00:24:58] Nathan:Was there a catalyst that pushed you, you know, you were thinking about it, you're feeling this, but what was the thing that made you go like, all right, I'm[00:25:06] Kimberly:Well, okay. Like I said, we don't have enough time to get into all of this, but there were, I made three huge dramatic, you know what? I don't know. Maybe it's a Monty Python movie, I don't know. But like when you push the table over and you throw all the plates and you break everything, like you just come, it's not a reboot, it's way more violent than that.Just kind of like you take the tablecloth out and you just say I'm out of here. You know, I think I did that three times before I got closer to. You know what it is. And one of them was moving to LA after moving to Paris, I moved to New York and then, then I moved to LA and I was like, okay, this time is going to be it I'm being artist.Like, and you know, it's a couple of years later, it's after Paris. Like, you know, cause you have to get, you have to, I had to make money. You know, I had to make a, I had to have a job. And so I had to kind of like do, do design work and stuff like that. So when I moved to LA, my first, I went to a Mac conference, like it was like 60 booths.It was so small, like Mac was seen a teeny little thing and, and Microsoft was the big thing windows and,[00:26:18] Nathan:Yeah.[00:26:19] Kimberly:And I made a business cards and I said, it said artist. And then when I, I walked, went to this conference and I was practically like often the only woman, you know, and I would say, yeah, I'm an artist.And I know. And so the first job I got was making the first CD rom for apple computer that they said distributed to every single apple. So they distributed over 2 million copies worldwide, and my name was on it. And that kind of, that was a huge breakthrough because suddenly I was being offered insane jobs.And next thing you know, I was anyway, like, I don't want to dwell on this because we haven't talked about newsletters yet.[00:27:01] Nathan:That is okay. that is okay. So you just made a leap from, I went to this conference to,[00:27:08] Kimberly:Yeah, by the way speaking, we started with going to a conference.Yeah.[00:27:12] Nathan:A big deal. We are we talking about that as well, but this leap from going to the conference to your work, being on the CD,[00:27:19] Kimberly:Well, so they were, it was like, again, I was on the bleeding edge. I could not explain to my father Who would come down and visit me. In the warehouse. I, it was, it was an artist and a coder who, but they had both met in art school and they brought me on to be the creative director.And it was like, it was almost no money at first. And then it became like a bigger thing and apple, the more that apple saw it, the more they were like, wow, this is really good. so then the next conference I went to was in San Francisco was Macworld and my art was everywhere, everywhere, and I got job offers from Imagineering. They wanted me to design why the Disney, they wanted to be the head. Of Warner music was doing a new interactive division and digital don't digital.I can't remember the names, but it was very, it was a very heady time. It was very, it was very fun. I felt like, wow, I found this place that has it's the intersection of art design, narrative and technology. And it was exactly where I want it to be. And that was just, that was sort of, and I set up an easel in my office, I had a lot of people working for me and it was just, it got very, it got very fancy, you know, and I, and I took a lot of, I took a lot of like what I knew at Landour to attach in this before email this before the internet.[00:28:45] Nathan:You're talking early nineties at this point,[00:28:48] Kimberly:Yeah. Like you no, like a mid yeah. Mid nineties, you know, 96, maybe. So, yeah. So I took a lot of my, knowledge that I gleaned from working at land or like the discover design develop, deploy to whip these engineers and designers into shape, you know? And anyway, I was still stalking what I really wanted to do, you know?[00:29:10] Nathan:Okay. So tell me more about the difference between what you wanted to do and what you were doing, because you just described your art being on everything.[00:29:17] Kimberly:No, no, no, actually, honestly, honestly like I would listen to like Liz fairs, exile in Guyville, as I drove downtown by the toy factory in downtown Los Angeles back and forth, like every day, like at these, I was a big album listener.And when I was designing, I would listen to full albums and I was just like, wow, this is it. I am so excited and energized and everything. then I started studying painting again. So I started so like I had taken a hiatus. And then I got into the, Otis, which is the art school here, You know, when you get professional, when you become a professional in anything, even being an artist, there's a, single-minded rigor focus and clarity. one brings their whole self to what they're doing, you know? And if you know that if If you've been successful in anything else or anything like that, you can, if you bring that to your art, there's literally nothing that can stop.You. You become a wire cutter. It's like, you're going to munch through like, I, you know, really understanding, painting in the deepest way possible. Like I was thinking if I can understand alpha channels, I can figure out how to tone a canvas. You know, just like I just, because painting is a technology, honestly.I took everything in my being to it. And that was like a third moment. Like that was like another moment I skipped some moments, but there was like where I was knocking at the door, knocking at the door. And then I knew that in my art would become the, that I had when I started painting in full force.Like not just having it in my office, but saying this is what I'm going to do. And I'm going to do it as so ferociously, like stand back, everybody, nothing is going to get in my way.[00:31:13] Nathan:So you were painting, I mean, you had is this like painting a few hours a week, a few hours a day, and then you dove into doing that, just like.[00:31:22] Kimberly:This is like 40 hours. I mean, I basically gave myself an assignment and my assignment was I was going to paint a hundred new. Because that's the hardest thing to do as a body. Cause you have to deal with the translucency of skin. And I could literally talk about painting all day, but you have to deal with light form and shadow and thinking in three dimensions and it creates it's.I don't want to knock marketing and technology and the stuff that you do, but painting is that most people do, but painting is a true, like you have to really, it's a very intellectual as well as mindful and spiritual, but it's a very, it's a very deep, deep, deep way to approach the world. And when you become a painter or you actually like listen to the little voice inside you that says that they want to learn this.It's a skill, it's a skill. And when you do that, your brain expands and your world expands and you see things differently. So it's a very transformative thing and it takes years. It takes years and years. So my assignment was I'm going to paint a hundred nudes and, and if I have like 10 good ones, I can have a show.[00:32:41] Nathan:So I want to tie that to maybe the experience that other creators listening would have, or anyone who's on the fence about getting started. Right. It might not be painting that they're trying to do, but they've had these fits and starts of like, I'm going to, learn to code, start a podcast, start a newsletter, any of these things, you know, learning to play an instrument, whatever it is.And then like start and it goes, maybe it goes well for a week or a month, or like what, what advice would you[00:33:11] Kimberly:Isn't there, isn't there like a guru isn't there like a guru in the subject that calls it, the. Who's that guy. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Somebody told me that, cause I was saying this to somebody and they were like, oh yeah, that's somebody's Seth, Godin's the dip. But yes. You know, when I was younger and all through all through my, you know, middle school and high school and college, I played piano quite seriously.I was a classical pianist and whenever I would learn a difficult piece, I would play it over and over and over again. And I would have to, like, I would start to suck. I would get better, but then I would start to suck and I'd have to walk away and then come back at it the next day before I would be able to play it perfectly.Like, I mean, you know,[00:34:01] Nathan:Yeah.[00:34:04] Kimberly:Learning an instrument actually teaches you this better than anything, because if you make a painting at first and it sucks, you can be easily thwarted, like a, you know, a drawing or whatever. But, but in order to like worry the bone of like how to get that legato, right. And that Greek piano concerto or something like you got to just sort of do it again and again, and again and again, you know, like it's, the fundamental way to learn is you, you imitate, assimilate, and then you can improvise.So you have to like, you play these pieces. And so with anything, you're going to be thwarted in the beginning many times and you can't give up, you have to say, okay, well, I don't care if it even sucks. I don't care if I'm going to fail. If I'm gonna fail, I'm gonna fail big. Like I'm[00:34:52] Nathan:Right[00:34:52] Kimberly:Go all out.Let's just go on.[00:34:54] Nathan:But that specific assignment that you gave yourself of painting 100 nudes, do you think that an assignment like that is a good way to go as a creator of saying this is the commitment that I'm going to make, I'm going to get to a hundred podcast episodes or I'm going to, I don't know, write a hundred blog posts, and then I can decide if this is something I actually want to pursue.[00:35:13] Kimberly:Absolutely. I think that when you make a commitment like that, to devote your energy into building a body of work of any kind in any media, you, your life will change everything. You are going to gain skills that involve every facet of that media. So like, if you're a podcaster and let's say you record in iMovie you're going to learn iMovie or whatever they, whatever they edit podcasts.In And, and I think if, you know, if Leonardo DaVinci were alive today, trusts me. He would know Photoshop He would know he would be all over this stuff, you know, he would love, he would love it in this nether world space, because there's, I'm, I'm going off topic a little bit because there's a little bit of a prejudice in the art world where people were thinking they were resisting the newer technological versions of artwork.But back to process, what you were saying is that if you do something in a committed way and you basically measure it and say, I'm going to do it until I get to this point, I think a hundred might be excessive, but you're going to get the hang of it.[00:36:28] Nathan:Yeah[00:36:28] Kimberly:I mean, I haven't mixed feelings though, about blogging cause I started a blog again, when I was, really getting into.Consuming. I mean, consuming isn't the right word. When I was throwing my entire body into the art world, one of the things that I did to expand my own knowledge was to write about other artists. And I think that's also something that's super unspoken, especially in the art world, because a lot of artists are just saying Me me me I want attention.I want to get people to focus on my show and my work, and I want a gallery and I want this and that. And I think one of the most important, aspects of breaking through to any next level of anything is generosity. Generosity of your attention to other people who are doing the same thing. And that for me, that general, I mean, I didn't think of this.This is red, this is a in retrospect, but at the time when I look back on it, I was airlifting artists that nobody had heard of and writing about them along with other big art, you know? And so I had a successful weekly column where I was keeping a blog again, this was before social media and that's how, and then the Huffington post came along and then I started publishing it, the, having a post.And that's how I said, I was asked by Arianna Huffington to be the, to found an art section. And so I was like, I was perfectly positioned because I was, I was a big nerd. I had had these other experiences. I was a full-on painter. I was having shows galleries the whole thing. And then she was building this incredible Site to celebrate bloggers. And I was one of the bloggers So I had to build an audience from zero to 10 million people within two years. I didn't have to that's what happened.[00:38:26] Nathan:Right.I have so many things that I want to ask about in this, one thing that I want to highlight that you talked about is as you're doing the painting, there's the side of it, of, Research where you're researching other painters, learning from them and all that. Most people keep that Research to themselves, right?That is not a public thing that happens. And I think a lot of the most successful creators that I see are the ones who do that recent. And, and share their notes and share that and work in public and do the interviews and all of that that you were doing. because it does a couple things. One people follow you, not only for your own work, but then also for your notes on other people.And then too, it's incredible for meeting people. Like when you do a profile, either if they're a, say an upcoming artist or someone who's established either way, they're going to be like, when you, you know, when you send them an email, they'll like respond and be interested and engaged. And, you know, I mean, that's a reason that I do this podcast is so that I can meet and hang out with people that I want to more aboutIt's amazing for network.[00:39:30] Kimberly:Yes. I think you're exactly spot on. This is no different than what I did with artists, this, except for I wasn't involving video, I was writing about it and interviewing them. You're right. You're absolutely right. I also think that you can get too carried away with that though. Like you have to be careful, you have to make sure that you're, you know, I can become easily like Clydesdale the horse.I'm like, well, that's another month and I have to do another,[00:39:57] Nathan:It becomes more important than the art, which was the[00:40:00] Kimberly:Well, yeah,[00:40:01] Nathan:It feels more time than[00:40:02] Kimberly:Yeah, yeah. Like, so eventually I had to leave, because it was just sort of eclipsing. It became so much bigger than everything else I was doing that I had to like go, okay, this isn't, you know, I've got a show coming up. I can't devote all this time and energy. And then of course, social media kind of made it all really different.[00:40:24] Nathan:Like in what way?[00:40:25] Kimberly:Well, because not only we could, you know, writing a really thoughtful piece about an artist and looking at their work and, you know, relating it with art history. And I also found that if I could relate it to like a contemporary event, like there was this one painter who painted battle scenes and we were just going to war with Iraq, I think, anyway, we were going to war somewhere.You know, it was a horrible time, but like, I would talk about going, you know, this contemporary news event. And I would link it with the artist who was painting these battle scenes. And then seeing that it went, go.[00:41:04] Nathan:Right.[00:41:04] Kimberly:Was another, that was another big learning lesson is like, if you put a number in a headline, like 10 things, you, you should tell, you know, 10 rules for your kids and screens, you know, then people would read that more.So I could see the analytics of what people clicked on. You know, that was like a interesting learning experience. But when social media happened, then suddenly you also had to tweet it. You had to post it on Facebook and then you had to tweet about it and then it just got to be social media. here's my take, if I could just say one thing, because I want to get it out there.I think social media is great for first impressions so that when people see you for the first time they're going to go that person's like a real artist or they're a real whatever, and they're legit. And they don't just have like three things that they've said about the subject. They've actually like, I trust that they've done some deep things.Like me painting a hundred nudes, you know, like this person knows how to paint.So I think social media, it's just so easy to get carried away. I hope one day it goes away. Is that terrible to say? I think emails should be everything. It should just go away.[00:42:14] Nathan:I don't think it's terrible to say at all. You have something in your Ted talk. you talked about like the compulsion to paint being taken away by your smartphone and these distractions, And I'd love for you to talk about that because I think there's so many things of like, if I'm on Twitter or checking my email, or even interacting with the ConvertKit team 2,700 times a day, you know, it makes it so much harder as a creator.And so I like, I just want to hear more of your experience there.[00:42:45] Kimberly:Well, I mean, in order to even get into my zone mentally to paint, I have to like have at least 90 minutes where I haven't spoken with anybody. Like I just need to kind of like clear it. Like I need to, I mean, I can be in it and I've got all these, you know, because people everybody's different. Some people like beginnings, some people like middles, other people's like ends.So you have to get in touch with which person you are, you know? So I, I love middles and beginning. I actually like all of them, but like, I'm better at certain things. So whenever I go into the studio, I have to start in paintings that are in the middle, that many going on at once. so you have to get in touch with like what time of day you're best at.And I always begin things at the end of the day when I'm already like nice and a well-oiled machine, well-oiled creating Machine.I never begin things in the morning. I always begin. at the end of the day, I never begin paintings in the morning. I was beginning, you know, I mean, I, I'm not, I know I'm not answering your question.Your question is, compartmentalizing your time to protect it away from social media. I teach a master class and I teach a Masterclass with artists who are building their first body of work, or they, they want to build a body of work in the masterclass.I make them take an oath an Instagram oath Instagram is it's so draining psychologically, emotionally, mentally, and the effort that you put into it that you really have to like commit and, and, and artists feel pressure to post their progress and post once a day and stuff like that.And the truth is, that algorithm, the algorithm is so fraught right now because you really only see the last 20 people that you liked more often than not. And you're not, it it's just, it's not healthy. It's not healthy for a visual artist Because you'll be on it. You check it like a diabetic checking their insulin level.It's just like, oh, did it get enough? Likes all that. It's like, Ugh. So I use, later to post once a week because I don't really want to deal with it. So I'll do like four months at a time. But if like I have a museum show opening up on Saturday, so I have to make a post this week. And so that that's like in my brain, oh God, I got to make a post this week.And when my book was coming out, like that's a whole other topic about promote, you know, how to tell people and that a book is coming out. yeah. So I just kind of look at it like, you know, kind of like a creative sinkhole,[00:45:15] Nathan:Yeah. And so it[00:45:15] Kimberly:So it[00:45:15] Nathan:Makes sense to avoid it. I think we hear that advice from a lot of talented creators and it's easy to be like, yeah. Yeah. But I can, I'm the person who can sit down and write with a moment's notice, you know? And then you you get totally stuck on writer's block or whatever thing, because you're like, you actually didn't create that space.And, like you talked about in the Ted talk of that time to like daydream and to actually be there, present with yourself and your thoughts.[00:45:42] Kimberly:Yeah, it's true. I mean, there's this thing in neuroscience called empathetic mirroring. Do you know about[00:45:48] Nathan:I don't know.[00:45:49] Kimberly:It's this, it's like when you see somebody, for example, write on a chalkboard, the neurons in your brain, I'm not going to say this. Right? So if a neuroscientist says I'm like slightly wrong, but like, it, it, it has this effect where you feel like you're doing it, you know, like, and it's, that's why people love to watch people write things.That's why a chalkboard is an excellent device for, I actually have a chalkboard in my office because I started to. Take videos of me make with my talking points of me writing it on a chalkboard, because even though it's considered like, you know, yesteryear technology, it actually helps people receive the information better to see it written[00:46:34] Nathan:Rather than being next[00:46:36] Kimberly:Rather than just show a PowerPoint slide.Yeah. And so this, the act of seeing it rhythm, but so if, if you think about the power of empathetic mirroring, that's going on in your brain, when you look at something happening, think about how much it can pollute your brain. If you're watching a stream of all these things happening in your Instagram feed or your Facebook feed, it's like dangerous.Like you have to be protective of what is going inside your mind. It's that they say like garbage in, garbage out, you know,[00:47:04] Nathan:I want to hear about you getting into the world of, of like teaching classes and that side of it, and then you have a book as well. There's a lot.[00:47:12] Kimberly:Oh yes. So I have this book,[00:47:15] Nathan:There[00:47:15] Kimberly:So, you know, around a decade into, you know, being a serious painter, I started to feel bad from the fumes because painting isn't really taught the way other things are taught. Painting is sort of like, there's, there's been this somewhat mystical, you know, here's a bunch of art supplies go to the art store and then let's see what you come up with.And then the, the, the classes tend to be more about critiques, about what you've done versus about,[00:47:45] Nathan:How do something.[00:47:46] Kimberly:About the, the true, true granular house, you know, the, how, like the basics, like things that you should know. And, so I started to get sick and I happened to be the arts editor at the time of the Huffington post.And I reached out to, and blogging was a very interesting, it was around 2004 or five, I think. Maybe, maybe it was a little bit later, but it was an interesting time because other people were thinking what I was thinking and I could see it in search for it. Whereas I couldn't, I couldn't have done that a decade earlier.And so I would reach out to leaders in the field, scientists, whatnot, to write about this topic of safety, you know, like that. And, but then when I read and I had, by the way, been consuming, Disneyland books, everything about painting, and I just saw this huge gaping hole of knowledge of how. Communicated. So I started writing this book all about painting and the book that I ended up publishing with Chronicle books is just one small piece of it because it was kind of too big.It was like James Joyce's Ulysses, you know, it was like a tone. It was like a Magnum Opus. and it's one of the key things that people don't realize is that you don't need to use solvent's P many people believe that you need to have like an open can of turpentine or some kind of solvent to dip your brush and defend the oil paint.So it's like super basic and most people when they go to the art store, and this is just my short, my short, skinny on the book. As most people, when they go to the art store, it would be like only buying canned or prepackaged. They don't know what's in it, you know, they don't know like that you don't need all those things.Like, but if you were like learning how to cook, you would know the difference between a garlic and a shallot and when to use canola oil or olive oil extra-virgin, you know, so I wanted to create, to start a book called the Y that was like Strunk and White's elements of style, but for oil paintings. So that's like the famous book that most writers use and just sort of shows you.And it's funny, actually, it's like a great book. So I wrote that book and that's called the new oil painting and it's published by Chronicle and it came out in June and it's like staying at the top, like five books of oil painting, which is great, you know? So I'm very excited about that. But in any way, in that journey of writing the book, the book, the book deal I got was two years ago.It was like a while ago. And so Susan. Did that I thought, you know, I would be a fool to not have a class that went with the book. So to the summer of 2019, I had, I had like four solo exhibitions in a row and I thought, okay, I'm going to devote six months and I'm going to record videos and I'm going to do that.You know? So I created this class that I wish that I had, and it was way bigger than the book. It was like everything I've ever thought about oil painting and that's called oil painting, fluency and flow. And, so yeah, so I launched a class, so the classes are out there[00:50:52] Nathan:Are the classes something that, you know, you're teaching in an online course? Are you there in person or through a partnership with.[00:50:58] Kimberly:So once I, once I learned about. That you can oil paint anywhere like you, Nathan tomorrow could decide, you know what? I w I've got an artist in me. I want to, I want to learn how to paint and you could set it up next year, you know, like in a little side table next to your computer, and there would be no fumes, no nothing.And it's much better for the environment it's not made out of plastic. It's like, you know, you could do it. So I wanted to get the word out. And, so my first class is, and so I was started teaching at major institutions. So the Anderson ranch in Colorado and the Otis where I actually took lessons, I taught there.And then, I just thought to myself, you know, this is highly inefficient because I have to like schlep over there and go there for, you know, hours at a time. And I could reach so many more people if I recorded. Instruction. And so I made these recordings, that's a hybrid of recordings and live sessions and critiques.And I have, you know, I have about 78 students right now. They're from all over the world and it's like the boast enriching wonderful, fabulous thing I've ever done[00:52:08] Nathan:Yeah.[00:52:09] Kimberly:To being an artist, you know,[00:52:11] Nathan:And so how does that interact with the newsletter that you have?[00:52:14] Kimberly:Well, I mean, so all of my experience, just as an artist has taught me that you, your value that you bring to any situation is the people that you can tell about what you do. It's like a tree falls in the forest. Nobody knows you're having a show. You know, you can't just rely on your art dealer.And the The dynamic has changed where. People don't have one, rarely do people have one gallery that represents them. And then they've got a bunch of satellite galleries. So you kind of have to be a little bit more entrepreneurial as an artist. And so you need to gather an email list. And so I stopped blogging and instead I have a newsletter because I want, you know, and I I have a narrative of stories that I tell about creativity about, about like I'll crawl deeply inside the making of a single painting of mine, or maybe another one.And I, and each email I send out, I spend a lot of time on, and it's like a work of art by itself because it's, again, it may be a different thing. a newsletter may be slightly different than a blog, but it's still words and image and it's just how. It's like another work of art, it's another work of art.And I love, using ConvertKit. I mean, I really, really do I tell people about it. I tell people about it all the time, because I think it's, it's the first software I've encountered that, allows you to very easily create a sequence. And, you know, you can I tell people, I say like, if you want to think about it, you could unspool Tolstoy's war and peace.If you wanted, like you could, every week you could give like a little section and you can start at the beginning and it takes the pressure off needing to constantly have every email be a first impression. So you can really get, let people to get, to know you in a much deeper, more personal way, because you create a sequence of letters to them that[00:54:23] Nathan:Right[00:54:24] Kimberly:Over time.[00:54:24] Nathan:Well, I think that's a really important point about starting at the beginning, because when you're sending these one-off emails to your newsletter, you don't know where people are joining. Some people for years and other people that is the very first thing. And so every time I find myself adding these caveats are like, Hey, if you're new here, you know, any of those things and with a, an email sequence, you know, the automated series, it starts at the beginning every time and it works people through it.And so I've had that. I've had so much fun creating those because you can chip away at them. Like I have one that I'm kind of writing now on, I guess it's on personal finance, you know? And it's just things that I wish that I had known as like, Moderately successful creator. Like, Hey, you're now earning a full-time living, what what's next?And so I can just write about that when I feel like it and add to this, that's now like 10 or 12 emails long.[00:55:20] Kimberly:And what's your frequent.[00:55:22] Nathan:That one I said to every week, but if I don't write for it, everyone just kind of pulls up at the end and weights, you know, for the next email. So it's 10 emails And then I add to it. And so like last week I didn't add a new one. And so now there's like a hundred people that are all the way at the end and they didn't get an email last week,[00:55:41] Kimberly:Yeah, no, I have that situation. I have a two year sequence[00:55:45] Nathan:Oh, wow.[00:55:45] Kimberly:I mean, I know like I sound, I probably seem super extroverted and voluble and everything like that, but like, I, I, it's very difficult for me to sell. It's very, it's very not. It's not cool for an artist to be. So like, I mean, it's just hard.It's also just hard for me. It's my personality. Like I even posting on Instagram is like a stressful thing for me. It's like, did I get everything that, you know, like I just, it's just not, I'm not one of those people that just casually throw stuff out there. I just, I'm very thoughtful and I want it, you know, it to be meaningful.And, but anyway, I was having trouble announcing that a workshop was over. Like serious trouble. Like I would put it off and I'd say, I can't do it. I can't press the send button. Like I just, even though you have the schedule feature on the broadcast, I was like, I can't do it. I can't do it. And you know, I, I can't remember the name of the marketing guru who was, have the five day sequence or, you know, basically a launch sequence is a series of emails where you first email is all about it.The second email might address one's reservations about it. The third Emile email might be testimonials. And then the fourth and fifth email are like last chance to get it. Like that to me is like, I would rather have needle eyes surgery than do that, you know, so I built it in, so I basically have the sequence where every quarter there's a launch sequence.Is that crazy[00:57:13] Nathan:No, it's fantastic[00:57:14] Kimberly:Because then, so, so that way, like I can just set it and forget it, like back to the Crock-Pot thinking like, you know, like, you know, just set it and forget it. You're going to sign up. You're going to get an announcement for a walk shop, a workshop a couple months after you've gotten to know me.[00:57:30] Nathan:Do you think that, well actually I guess really quick, the thing that I love about that is you can be completely immersed in your painting, right? And there you are selling a workshop and you're like, you don't, you have to think about it or know about it. Cause you did that work once and now you've finished a whole day of, of painting.Start something new at the end of the day. Cause that's the way that you roll. And then also you can say like finish up and check those sales and check that engagement. See, oh, people.[00:57:58] Kimberly:Yyeah, yeah. I mean, it's, it's just, it's I think people before they're going to buy anything, need to feel. Most people need to feel, you know, a level of comfort about what that person is about. so, you know, I haven't touched you tube. I haven't really, I honestly, I haven't made, I haven't made a huge effort because I've had the book coming out and I F I ha I had a big exhibition in June because, I designed a series of, excuse me.I designed, I painted a series of abstract paintings, for the cover of the book, because I wanted the cover, the book to be stellar and represent like a specified stroke, like hanging in air, like, to just convey the idea of painting and not be like a landscape, because for some crazy reason, if you, if you look up oil, painting, all the books, About oil painting are so poorly designed.It's like, it's strange because you would think people who are artists would care about design, but it's like pink pallet, Tino, bold 14 point font over like a green sunset. it's[00:59:07] Nathan:Yeah, well, design and painting are not necessarily the same thing you happen to come from a world where you have a lot of this. Even those two worlds have intertwined for you a lot over your career. So it makes sense to[00:59:18] Kimberly:Yes, but, but when, when, but if you get, but the painting books, like if you see a PA a painting book that has like a landscape on it, what if you don't like the landscape or they all have a landscape, or it has like the, the, you know, a face that's loosely drawn with, you know, painted with turbine, you know, Alla prima anyway.I've had so many exhibitions and like, I have a, I have a show coming up on Saturday and I've got to tell people about it. So like, I have to be, I'm already out there as an artist. So I have two different sequences and newsletters. I've got like a workshops for people who express interest in a workshop within the main newsletter.Like if, if, like, I'll say like I have this one great newsletter where the subject line is, who is this gorgeous woman? And then I show a picture cause they used to paint these beautiful renditions of the faces of the Egyptian mummies inside the sarcophagus, like beyond gorgeous. Like if you looked it up, you'd say, oh my God, this most beautiful painting I've ever seen.And it looks a lot like Francesco Clemente, which is an artist that like paint uses the same aspect ratio. It's like, you sort of go, oh, that's where that guy got that idea, you know? But. I'll talk about the pigments and that they used to, like, they used to burn mummies and then take the ashes and make a pigment called mummy brown.I know that sounds really kind of gross, but like, but, but they that's what they did. And I I'll say like, if this interests you, you might be interested in like a workshop. then if they say yes, then they'll go into my workshop sequence and they'll get notified when I open them.[01:01:00] Nathan:Are there other things that you do with email and with your newsletter[01:01:04] Kimberly:Yeah. Like I, like, I really want, I really want people to easily update their preferences. So I created a jot form like that simple select, you know, check box check if you're no longer interested in, workshops. No problem. Let me know. And I don't get enough work. Ominous, but hopefully, hopefully you'll put that feature in soon.[01:01:30] Nathan:We're actually working on building that feature now. So,[01:01:33] Kimberly:Are you kidding? When does it come out[01:01:34] Nathan:It's one of those asking where the paintings are done. It'll be done when it's done.[01:01:40] Kimberly:The other thing that I do is I really think gifts are important. And I think the marketer, the marketing community is really cheesy about it. Like they always do like outtakes from friends for reaction shots.And it's just so horrible, but I mean, it's just corny and you know who I'm talking about, but, you know, anyway, a gift is a beautiful thing because it's a movie that plays automatically and it doesn't have sound and. it can be so beautiful and subtle, you know, so every time I make a news that I usually have like an, it's like a work of art to me, you know?And sometimes if I want to emphasize a word, I'll paint a picture of that word and I'll integrate it in it. So like I really spend, I really love making them special. Yeah. I have one about the creative process and about not, not the Ted talk that you saw, but like I have one that's on the lead up to talking about the masterclass.Where it's called the curse of perfection. And I show, I talk about how, when I was a kid, my mother used to always like, she would sometimes wear like super smudge makeup and it was psych, it was called the smoky eye. I mean, they still do it now, but now the beauty people make it super specific, but then it was not that it was a little bit more like, woo.And I found a beautiful GIF of like a smokey eye, like slowly opening and closing. And I then go off on this whole subject about how, you know, it's as a painter, you have to let go of that, of the chains of perfection. You have to let it go in order to.[01:03:22] Nathan:Yeah. Well, I love that you're taking a medium that you know, of email or gifts or any of these things that a lot of people use in one way. And you're bringing those styles in that like class and sophistication and really just the level of effort. I think a lot of people are like hearing. Oh, I'm supposed to have, images or gifts.I'm supposed to be funny. And so they just look for something and slap it in there. And there's a level of effort that's not happening there, but because you're doing these automated sequences and you know that if you put this effort into it, it will last and work for you for years, then it's worth it.You can do a custom painted, you know, word or something like that to illustrate a point.[01:04:04] Kimberly:I mean, I have the luxury of having hundreds of paintings, and pieces of paintings, and video of—there's nothing sexier and more beautiful than watching somebody mix paint. There's literally nothing more gorgeous than that—So, I'm lucky.And I understand that other creators have to find other things, but there's a way to do things that have like a metaphorical—I here's what I would say. I would recommend that people seek to enhance their ability to think in metaphor when they write.So if they're gonna talk about a subject, and they're talking about a roadblock, instead of drawing a boulder on a road, find some other image or GIF. I use a lot of GIFs from ballet. You can find beautiful GIFs just by searching “Swan Lake” GIF, and it implies a physical movement.It goes back into that empathetic mirroring, where you feel that your own body is doing these movements that are surrounding this idea. It's not directly about what you're talking about, but it's like a little bit to the left, or it's just kind of a metaphorical version of it. It creates the space in between what you're literally saying, and what you're actually seeing that ignites the imagination and the view.[01:05:35] Nathan:Yeah. I love that. Just putting that extra bit of effort into defining the thing that's adjacent, rather than blatantly the first thing that came to mind. I think that makes a huge difference.[01:05:46] Kimberly:Yeah,[01:05:46] Nathan:We need to do a part two, because I have like 25 more questions to ask you, and we're out of time.[01:05:52] Kimberly:I'm in. I'm in.[01:05:54] Nathan:This has been amazing. Where should people go to subscribe to the newsletter?[01:05:58] Kimberly:They should go to KimberlyBrooks.com. The newsletter's right there in the footer and on the top. I really love communicating this way, and it's been an honor to be on this podcast, because I really love the product you've created. I really couldn't do it without you—without ConvertKit.So, I just, I'm such a fan, and I'm an evangelist, so kudos to you.[01:06:19] Nathan:Wow, thank you.Well, we're exci

Lissa McClure is the inaugural Executive Director of the Woodman Family Foundation, which stewards the work and legacies of Betty Woodman, Francesca Woodman, and George Woodman. She directs the vision and strategy for the Foundation with the Board of Directors and oversees its administration, operations, and partnerships. Prior to joining the Foundation, she was a longtime director of the Marian Goodman Gallery, where she worked closely with Julie Mehretu, John Baldessari, and Lawrence Weiner, and with Betty and George Woodman on behalf of Francesca Woodman. She was the founding Senior Director of Kurimanzutto New York and is currently on the Board of Directors of the John Baldessari Family Foundation. Francesca Woodman, Untitled, Rome, Italy, 1977-1978 Vintage gelatin silver print: 4 5/8 x 4 3/4 in. (11.6 x 11.9 cm). Photograph courtesy of Woodman Family Foundation and Marian Goodman Gallery, © Woodman Family Foundation / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York, 2021. Francesca Woodman, Untitled, Providence, Rhode Island, 1975-1978 Vintage gelatin silver print: 5 1/2 x 6 1/2 in. (13.8 x 16.5 cm). Photograph courtesy of Woodman Family Foundation and Marian Goodman Gallery,© Woodman Family Foundation / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York, 2021. Francesca Woodman Contact sheet, Italy, c. 1977-1978 Vintage gelatin print; 8 x 10 in. (20.3 x 25.4 cm). Photograph courtesy of Woodman Family Foundation and Marian Goodman Gallery, © Woodman Family Foundation / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York, 2021.

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John Baldessari je s svojimi umetniškimi deli pogosto izzval nasmešek gledalca. Med njegovimi bolj znanimi deli je denimo I Will Not Make Any More Boring Art, obsesivno ponavljajoče se zapisan stavek, da ne bo več delal dolgočasne umetnosti. Prav s humorjem je nenehno spreminjal naš pogled na umetnost, podobe in jezik. V šestdesetih je začel poudarjati idejo umetniškega dela, v sedemdesetih se je dalje spraševal o omejitvah in konvencijah v umetnosti, pogosto na rahlo paradoksalen in ironičen način. Znan je po pionirski rabi najdene fotografije in prilaščenih filmskih podob, s katerimi je razmišljal o kolektivnem nezavednem, kot ga oblikuje hollywoodska kinematografija in o zakonitostih filmske predstavitve. Veliki umetnik bi letos poleti praznoval 90 let in ob tej priložnosti lahko ponovno slišite oddajo, ki je nastala ob njegovi smrti januarja 2020. O duhovitosti in igrivosti Johna Baldessarija so tedaj razmišljali Zdenka Badovinac, direktorica Moderne galerije, ki je v devetdesetih gostila njegovo retrospektivo This not That, umetnik Dejan Habicht in Tadej Pogačar, umetnik in direktor Centra in Galerije P74. Foto: John Baldessari, I Will Not Make Any More Boring Art, tapeta, MOCA, flickr: uporabnik rocor

Today's Daily Quotation:"Don't plant your bad days. They grow into weeks. The weeks grow into months. Before you know it you got yourself a bad year. Take it from me. Choke those little bad days. Choke 'em down to nothin'. They're your days. Choke 'em.”- Tom Waitshttp://www.tomwaits.com More Than Rain performed by Tom Waitshttps://youtu.be/pUB1uMZgYoIA Brief History of John Baldessari, featuring Tom Waitshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU7V4GyEuXA Tom Waits has built a career as varied as there are creative outlets—delving into cinema (both composing and acting), musical theater, opera, live performance, and literature—yet seamlessly interweaving a truly distinctive and fully-realized persona. The tools of his trade have included such things as the marimba, trombone, brake drum, metal aunglongs, banjo, bell plate, bullhorn, conga, accordion, optigon, mellotron, maracas, pump organ, basstarda, chamberlain, harmonium, viola, sticks, chairs, a musical saw, as well as the regular old guitar, bass, piano and drums and, of course, his trademark gravelly voice.

Nel 1977, il critico Douglas Crimp organizza a New York “Pictures”, una mostra che darà voce ad artisti post-ideologici come Jack Goldstein, Sherrie Levine e Robert Longo. In breve tempo, nella scena dell'arte contemporanea americana, emergono altri artisti con ispirazioni simili: Louise Lawler, Sarah Charlesworth, Richard Prince e Cindy Sherman. Ad accomunarli c'è il loro interesse per l'immagine fotografica e pubblicitaria: tutti troppo giovani per aver vissuto l'attivismo degli anni '60, troppo disillusi per cadere nella seducente trappola del consumismo. Nel 2009, saranno consacrati al Metropolitan Museum di New York nella mostra “The Pictures generation”.In questa puntata si parla di Douglas Crimp, Troy Brauntuch, Jack Goldstein, Sherrie Levine, Robert Longo, Philip Smith, Barbara Krueger, Elizabeth Taylor, Montgomery Clift, Sherrie Levine, Walker Evans, Marcel Duchamp, Lilli Gruber, Elaine Sturtevant, Louise Lawler, Hans Haacke, Benjamin Buchloh, On Kawara, Cindy Sherman, David Robbins, Julian Schnabel, William Gibson, Justin Trudeau, Diana Ross, Angela Merkel, Emmet Miller, Nick Tosches, Bob Dylan, Van Halen, Pete Molinari, Maria Goretti, Giordano Bruno Guerri, Jack Goldstein, Sarah Charlesworth, John Baldessari, David Salle, Francis Picabia, Peter Arno, Mickey Rourke, Mary Boone, Leo Castelli, Richard Prince, Clint Eastwood, Brooke Shields, Garry Gross, Alfred Stieglitz, Stefan Edlis, Gloria Guida, Lilli Carati e Greta Thunberg.

Baldessari sings Sol LeWitt's thirty-five "Sentences on Conceptual Art" (1969), forcing LeWitt's text into the melodies of well-known tunes, including "The Star-Spangled Banner." In this case Baldessari splits language from written form, once again embracing a simple didactic structure that is contradicted from within. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/noah-becker4/support

This episode is all about mining one precious resource, COMMITMENT.   The dictionary defines Commitment as “The state or quality of being dedicated to a cause, activity, etc.” That is a very neat and tidy way to explain such a dynamic spectrum of being!  I see commitment as a sliding scale, and I see the WTMM Team dialing up our commitment to racial equity.  Happy first episode of Black History Month!  We are thrilled to be celebrating, now and ALWAYS.  Quick Links: Karida’s Griffith’s 3RD Program: https://karida-griffith.mykajabi.com/R3D-enrollmentFEB2021-page A Brief History of John Baldessari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU7V4GyEuXA Transcript: Intro: This is words that move me, the podcast where movers and shakers, like you, get the information and inspiration you need to navigate your creative career with clarity and confidence. I am your host master mover, Dana Wilson. And if you're someone that loves to learn, laugh and is looking to rewrite the starving artist story, then sit tight, but don't stop moving because you're in the right place. All right. All right. Welcome everybody. This is words that move me, I'm Dana. I'm stoked about this. Um, it is black history month and I have some big plans for upcoming episodes. I am so excited to be sharing the mic with some of my heroes, uh, several historians and living, breathing history, period. I am jazzed about it. And my goal is to do more than drop names and dates of important people in places and things, and just hope that you remember them. Um, my goal is to really put that history into context, uh, to make it sticky and to engage in meaningful conversations around it. So I am committed. I am committed to education and celebration of black history, and that my friend, is really big and really, really broad. So this week I want to start by talking about commitment period in and of itself. Um, this episode will *blah blah*. This episode will pair really, really nicely with episode 55, uh, where we discussed resolutions and doing daily. So if you haven't already dug into that, you might start there, um, and bounce on back here, or you might stay here and then bounce on back there either way, bounce around. You're going to dig. Um, okay, so let's, let's talk commitment. I did a little Googlage and I found that the online dictionary, I believe it was Miriam Webster says commitment is defined as the state or quality of being dedicated to a cause activity, et cetera. Commitment is defined as the state or quality of being dedicated to a cause, activity, et cetera. Now, I like to think of commitment. Um, the state or quality of dedication as being a sliding scale, there are degrees of commitment to a thing. So maybe, maybe zero is like, not at all committed no effort or interest in a cause or activity. This is my ballet slippers still in a bag in my closet, but actually then again, that again. Now that I say that out loud, I do have ballet slippers in a bag in my closet. So maybe I would give that like a 0.001 on the commitment scale. It is, it is like the essence of commitment. Like maybe it rubbed elbows with commitment, but it isn't actually commitment. It is the intent of being committed, but not committed itself. Um, anyways, on, on that sliding scale, zero is, you know, zero action, zero effort, and 10 is absolutely possessed, all in, interested, invested and activated, taking massive action toward a cause or activity. In this metric of measurement, Um, I would place Beyonce, Superbowl halftime show performance from 2013 at an 11. Um, by the way, I'm not a football fan, but I did recently watch all of the recorded Superbowl halftime shows in history that are on the internet. Um, I learned so, so, so much by

On this week's show Chase (https://chasereeves.co) and Corbett Barr (https://corbettbarr.com) discuss media, independent digital business, and the state of the creator economy. (Table of contents below) SPONSORS: Western Rise Clothing (http://bag.gg/WesternRisePod)... use code CHASE Pakt Bags (http://bag.gg/PaktPod)... use code CHASE10 BONUS: Bonus training (https://gum.co/UywOH) about this episode's content Matterful Monthly (https://chasereeves.co/matterful-monthly) emails for modern movers SONG: Petey: spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/4TeKBLCqmYXzvcgYX4t4YA?si=ESNZi94jT-iPoYVg0TrvZw), yt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuePPW8eHxI), insta (https://www.instagram.com/petey_usa/), CONTENTS: 3:00 Why are people easy to trick? 3:46 Creators rule the world. (https://corbettbarr.com/creators-rule-the-world/) 5:54 Successful digital media Media example: The Social Dilemma (https://www.thesocialdilemma.com/). Jaron Lanier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaron_Lanier) is the name we were looking for. 13:00 Expertise is still the product. 17:19 Proving (without a gatekeeper) that you're relevant. 18:03 The 3 public and digital elements you can actually own. 20:00 Developing consistent creative rhythms. 25:18 The Viability Ratio 28:00 How resonance works Australian multimeter youtuber guy (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2DjFE7Xf11URZqWBigcVOQ) Corbett mentions 33:00 Books are still the model 37:00 Rhythms of accomplishing things 44:07 "I have an opinion" as platform prerequisite 49:00 Artist fires and the John Baldessari documentary (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU7V4GyEuXA&list=PLMm-PdcMVhsy8Nb64SDAYe8mJo-1gBUb4) you need to watch. 53:47 Why some of you are waiting too long to get started (and some aren't waiting long enough)... 58:00 Making your outside — how you look on the internet — look like your inside 59:20 Organizing, conscientiousness and this Rectix SNL commercial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2FkgBIL-kI) 1:01:00 Not just getting it working, but KEEPING it working 1:03:23 Francis Bacon on Arena (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyepHcAe8lM) 1:06:00 Bringing an underlying human message vs. imitating other successes on a platform 1:08:00 Speaking with your own voice 1:11:00 Corbett cleaned his digital house... here's how it went 1:22:00 What we built together at Fizzle.co 1:27:00 What we got right: understanding the customer 1:29:00 Corbett's productivity tools mentioned: Bear (notes), Trello (projects) and Front (email) RoamResearch 1:41:00 Jobs to be done primer (https://justinjackson.ca/what-is-jobs-to-be-done) 1:42:00 Corbett's Jura espresso machine (https://amzn.to/3nTKa9e) Chase Lynks: win free gear: https://matterful.co/free-stuff matterful: https://matterful.co patreon: http://patreon.com/chasereeves the podcast: https://chasereeves.co/podcast insta: http://instagram.com/chasewreeves tweeter: http://twitter.com/chasewreeves spotify: http://open.spotify.com/user/chasereeves gear: http://kit.co/chasereeves

“Jeux de mains”Cécile Poimboeuf-Koizumi & Stephen Ellcockaux Editions Chose CommuneExtrait du communiqué de presseLa plupart des artistes ont, un jour, représenté le motif de la main, symbole absolu de la création. Nombreux aussi sont ceux pour qui la main en tant que sujet à part entière est un thème récurrent. Cette observation a inspiré Cécile Poimboeuf-Koizumi — éditrice et fondatrice de Chose Commune — à rassembler les oeuvres qui ont attiré son regard, sans suivre d'ordre thématique ou chronologique. La sélection a été réalisée en collaboration avec Stephen Ellcock, qui s'est fait connaître ces dernières années en rendant la galerie d'art accessible au grand public avec sa fabuleuse collection d'images qu'il partage tous les jours sur Instagram et Facebook. De Pablo Picasso à Helena Almeida, de Louise Bourgeois à Alberto Giacometti, de John Baldessari à Francesca Woodman, en passant par une multitude de trésors de l'Antiquité et documents de l'imagerie populaire, Jeux de mains confronte et mélange artistes célèbres, émergents et anonymes aux pratiques artistiques les plus diverses. Il en résulte une collection de plus de cent images, compilée de manière intuitive dans ce livre qui est désormais entre vos mains.Note : Ce livre a été relié à la japonaise. Les pages n'ont pas vocation à être découpées. En les entrouvrant délicatement, vous découvrirez à l'intérieur les informations de chacune des oeuvres. Voir Acast.com/privacy pour les informations sur la vie privée et l'opt-out.

Matthew Schreiber is a New York City based artist known for his work in holography and for his large scale laser light sculptures. Schreiberʼs work has been the subject of solo exhibitions including Light, Color and Geometry, Phillip and Patricia Frost Museum of Science; Crossbow at the Johnson Museum of Art, Cornell University; Side Show at Johannes Vogt Gallery, NYC; Guilloche at Fireplace Project in East Hampton, NY; Swiss Hall Basel, Switzerland; Platonic Solids at the NSU Art Museum Ft. Lauderdale; and Ontario, curated by Ambra Medda in the Miami Design District. Since the mid 1990’s, Schreiber has run the C Project, producing fine art holograms with artists such as Richard Artschwager, John Baldessari, Louise Bourgeois, Roy Lichtenstein, and Robert Ryman. This year the Getty Museum has acquired Schreiber’s archive of holography. Matthew Schreiber’s expertise in the manipulation of light led to over a decade as the producer for James Turrell, personally overseeing some of the most celebrated works in contemporary art.

In this episode of Art on the Verge, independent curator and founder of Coplan Hurowitz Art Advisory, Sharon Coplan Hurowitz talks with Bryce Wolkowitz about her auction world experience at Sotheby's and Christie's, her exquisite projects with Ellsworth Kelly, Jasper Johns, John Baldessari, and Bruce Nauman. They discuss the shift in the idea of expertise, her passion for artist books and artist editions, the emergence of prints and multiples market, and where her love of fashion comes from.

John Baldessari is one of America's best-known conceptual artists, noted for pieces that pushed the boundaries of art, language, and the idea of the image. His 1971 work, I Will Not Make Any More Boring Art, commissioned by the Nova Scotia College of Art and Design in Halifax, Canada, is perhaps his most famous; it was executed long-distance, for the cost of a postage stamp. Sierra Bellows, who wrote about the artist for our Winter 2021 issue, joins us on the podcast to discuss this seminal work as “an emblem of the Covid era”—particularly poignant given that Baldessari died in January 2020, just before the pandemic began.Go beyond the episode:Read Sierra Bellow’s essay, “Long-Distance Punishment,” from our Winter 2021 issueWatch John Baldessari’s 1971 video edition of the piece and the 2012 short film A Brief Introduction to John BaldessariView more of Baldessari’s works on his website, or at MOMARead Calvin Tomkins’s 2010 New Yorker profile of the artistTune in every week to catch interviews with the liveliest voices from literature, the arts, sciences, history, and public affairs; reports on cutting-edge works in progress; long-form narratives; and compelling excerpts from new books. Hosted by Stephanie Bastek.Subscribe: iTunes • Feedburner • Stitcher • Google Play • AcastHave suggestions for projects you’d like us to catch up on, or writers you want to hear from? Send us a note: podcast [at] theamericanscholar [dot] org. And rate us on iTunes! Our theme music was composed by Nathan Prillaman. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

John Baldessari is one of America's best-known conceptual artists, noted for pieces that pushed the boundaries of art, language, and the idea of the image. His 1971 work, I Will Not Make Any More Boring Art, commissioned by the Nova Scotia College of Art and Design in Halifax, Canada, is perhaps his most famous; it was executed long-distance, for the cost of a postage stamp. Sierra Bellows, who wrote about the artist for our Winter 2021 issue, joins us on the podcast to discuss this seminal work as “an emblem of the Covid era”—particularly poignant given that Baldessari died in January 2020, just before the pandemic began.Go beyond the episode:Read Sierra Bellow’s essay, “Long-Distance Punishment,” from our Winter 2021 issueWatch John Baldessari’s 1971 video edition of the piece and the 2012 short film A Brief Introduction to John BaldessariView more of Baldessari’s works on his website, or at MOMARead Calvin Tomkins’s 2010 New Yorker profile of the artistTune in every week to catch interviews with the liveliest voices from literature, the arts, sciences, history, and public affairs; reports on cutting-edge works in progress; long-form narratives; and compelling excerpts from new books. Hosted by Stephanie Bastek.Subscribe: iTunes • Feedburner • Stitcher • Google Play • AcastHave suggestions for projects you’d like us to catch up on, or writers you want to hear from? Send us a note: podcast [at] theamericanscholar [dot] org. And rate us on iTunes! Our theme music was composed by Nathan Prillaman. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Today we celebrate a botanist who gave us one of my favorite quotes about plant breeding. We'll also remember the fantastically driven woman who dreamed of providing blueberries to the nation… and her dream came true. We review some words about November by Lucy Maud Montgomery, author of the Anne of Green Gables series, as well as a charming quote about the sun by Galileo. We Grow That Garden Library™ with a book on floral arranging with foraged cuttings that’s both artistic and modern. And then we’ll wrap things up with a fascinating letter from a Danish botanist working in Calcutta.   Subscribe Apple | Google | Spotify | Stitcher | iHeart To listen to the show while you're at home, just ask Alexa or Google to “Play the latest episode of The Daily Gardener Podcast.” It's just that easy.   Gardener Greetings Send your garden pics, stories, birthday wishes, and so forth to Jennifer@theDailyGardener.org.   Curated News How to Grow Dahlias | Hunker | Victoria Lee Blackstone   Facebook Group If you'd like to check out my curated news articles and blog posts for yourself, you're in luck because I share all of it with the Listener Community in the Free Facebook Group - The Daily Gardener Community. There’s no need to take notes or search for links - the next time you're on Facebook, search for Daily Gardener Community and request to join. I'd love to meet you in the group.   Important Events November 11, 1765 Today is the birthday of the Belgian physicist, chemist, botanist, horticulturist, and pomologist, Jean-Baptiste Van Mons. The name of the game for Jean-Baptiste was selective breeding for pears. Selective breeding happens when humans breed plants to develop particular characteristics by choosing the parent plants to make the offspring. Check out the patience and endurance that was required as Jean-Baptiste Van Mon's described his work:   “I have found this art to consist in regenerating in a direct line of descent, and as rapidly as possible an improving variety, taking care that there be no interval between the generations. To sow, to re-sow, to sow again, to sow perpetually, in short, to do nothing but sow, is the practice to be pursued, and which cannot be departed from; and this is the whole secret of the art I have employed.”   Jean-Baptiste Van Mons produced a tremendous amount of new pear cultivars in his breeding program - something north of forty incredible species throughout his lifetime. The Bosc and D'Anjou pears we know today are his legacies.   November 11, 1954 Today is the anniversary of the death of the Queen of Blueberries, Elizabeth Coleman White. Elizabeth grew up on her dad's Cranberry Farm in the Pine Barrens of Burlington County, New Jersey. When she was a little girl, Elizabeth would take walks to pick wild blueberries - you couldn’t buy blueberries in stores. Over time, Elizabeth began to wonder about cultivating blueberries as a crop.  Keeping her family’s cranberry farm in mind, she figured blueberries would make the perfect offseason crop. Also, cranberries and blueberries both grow in highly acidic soil. To get started, Elizabeth asked local blueberry pickers to bring her the plants with the biggest berries, and then Elizabeth would transplant them into her father's field. She wrote:   "I used to call them swamp huckleberries and thought [a blueberry] half-inch diameter - huge. They grew luxuriantly on the margins of our cranberry bogs, and as a girl, I used to… dream of a field full of [blueberry] bushes... I knew it was a wild dream."   In 1910, the chief botanist at the USDA, Frederick Colville, was also working on blueberries at his summer home in New Hampshire. When Elizabeth read about his efforts, she reached out, and the two worked out a deal: Elizabeth would grow the berries, and Frederick would perfect the science. Elizabeth and Frederick successfully crossbred the largest New Jersey blueberries with the largest New Hampshire blueberries, and the rest, as they say, is history. Elizabeth said,   "My old dream was but a faint shadowing of the possibilities. Now I dream of cultivated blueberries shipped by the trainload, - blueberry specials - to every part of the country. “   It took Elizabeth five years to develop the first blueberry crop. Elizabeth’s success increased the value of the New Jersey pine districts around her farm from 50 cents an acre to $500 an acre. Elizabeth’s first harvest yielded 21 bushels of berries and netted $114. Today the US grows nearly 700 million pounds of cultivated wild blueberries, and the annual revenue is around $80 million. Elizabeth was very creative. After noticing how the Whitman chocolate Company packaged their chocolates, Elizabeth came up with the idea to use cellophane to protect and market her blueberries. The cellophane made it possible for people to see her blueberries - right through the packaging. And Whitman's ended up partnering with Elizabeth helping her source cellophane she needed from France.   Finally, here's a little known fact about Elizabeth Coleman White: she was a champion of native plants. After she successfully fought to save the American holly, Elizabeth Coleman White helped found the Holly Society of America in 1947.   Unearthed Words November is usually such a disagreeable month…as if the year had suddenly found out that she was growing old and could do nothing but weep and fret over it. This year is growing old gracefully…just like a stately old lady who knows she can be charming even with gray hair and wrinkles. We’ve had lovely days and delicious twilights. ― Lucy Maud Montgomery, Canadian writer and author of the Anne of Green Gables series, Anne of Avonlea   The sun, with all those planets revolving around it and dependent on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as if it had nothing else in the universe to do. —Galileo, Italian astronomer, physicist, engineer, mathematician, and philosopher   Grow That Garden Library Foraged Flora by Louesa Roebuck and Sarah Lonsdale This book came out in 2016, and the subtitle is A Year of Gathering and Arranging Wild Plants and Flowers. An artist and floral designer, Louesa Roebuck lives in Ojai and has created flora installations from foraged and gleaned materials for clients like Vivienne Westwood, John Baldessari, and Alice Waters. Just flipping through Foraged Flora conveys the striking skill and intuition that Louesa brings to floral work. What I love about studying a Louesa Roebuck piece is how she deftly accomplishes each step in the process. Louesa is a master forager, and her artistic eye guides every stem and flower. In this book, Louesa shares a modern twist on flower arranging, and I love that she narrows her palette to locally foraged plants and flowers. Her creations are on a spectrum from humble to showpiece. Louesa lets aspects of her environment play along in her work - leveraging materials in season, plants at every stage of their development, and paying close attention to rockstar natives. This book is 272 pages of authentic foraged beauty that can be found no matter where you hang your hat. You can get a copy of Foraged Flora by Louesa Roebuck and Sarah Lonsdale and support the show using the Amazon Link in today's Show Notes for around $15   Today’s Botanic Spark November 11, 1828 On this day, the Danish surgeon and botanist Nathaniel Wallich wrote William Jackson Hooker at Kew in London. Nathaniel served as the Superintendent of East India Company's Botanical Garden in Calcutta, India. From his post in Calcutta, Nathaniel was prepping a plant shipment for Hooker made up of over 300 ferns. And just to illustrate how the early botanists are just like everyday people, check this out. In his letter, Nathaniel begged Hooker to visit him, writing: “Can’t you come over this or next month? Do try… I entreat you. One month’s of hard work with you would be [like] two years to me.” While he was in Calcutta, Nathaniel wrote a Flora of Asia. Today, the Nathaniel Wallich Memorial Lecture occurs every year at the Indian Museum in Kolkata on Foundation Day. Nathaniel founded the Museum in 1814. Nathaniel didn’t stay in Calcutta. He spent the twilight of his life in London. Nathaniel is buried in Kensal Green cemetery in London alongside many prominent botanists - like James Edward Smith (a founder of the Linnean Society London), John Claudius Loudon (Scottish writer), Sir James McGrigor (Scottish botanist), Archibald Menzies (surgeon), Robert Brown (discoverer of Brownian motion), and David Don (the Linnaean Society Librarian and 1st Professor of Botany Kings College London). At Kensal Green, Nathaniel's in good company.

What does it really mean to pivot and stay connected and relevant to your existing customers while developing strategies to market to new ones? Jake Smith, Entertainment Sales Lead at Olson Visual boldly states that the reason they’ve been successful over the years has been by placing huge value in the quality of the product. And during this challenging transition- that has not changed. Through that level of care, customers can rely on feeling safe during a time that is so uncertain in every other aspect.  About Olson Visual: Bob and Jeannette Olson moved to Los Angeles in the late 1940’s. After working at a photo store and a short-run partnership, Bob Olson founded the Photo Blow-Up Lab on April 1, 1954. They specialized in black and white enlargements in the professional photography industry. They gained wide success by installing photographs for well-known hotels and commercial buildings in Hawaii. The lab became nationally known with orders from Alaska to Arizona. Jeannette Olson began to work for the firm. Their partnership launched a very prosperous business that reached a wider audience including: interior decorators, advertising agencies, trade show exhibit builders, and Hollywood celebrities. Dennis Hopper was an early customer asking Bob to enlarge his work. Bob and Jeannette Olson retired in 1984 and passed on the business to their sons: Rick, Dan, and Tom. The brothers changed the name to Olson Color Expansions and expanded the business to museums, events, and trade shows. They continued to work with well-known celebrities including: Arnold Swartzenegger, Barbara Streisand, John Baldessari, Helmut Newton and Michael Jackson. In the 1990’s Olson Color Expansions stopped providing fiber-based paper and relayed fully on machine-processed (with a resin coating). Their clientele changed from walk-ins to larger businesses in museum, retail, and entertainment sectors.  Next, the company was propelled into the digital era and they acquired new state-of-the-art machines. The first digital printer purchased was a 36-inch wide ink jet. Their next printer allowed them to print sixteen feet wide with unlimited length.  With the constant change in graphics and displays, their name became Olson Visual. They are now a full-service digital printing and installation firm encompassing all forms of visuals. “It took three of my boys to take my place.” – Bob Olson More From Olson Visual: Contact: info@olsonvisual.com Visit the website: https://olsonvisual.com/ Connect with Rick Olson on LinkedIn *If there is a specific resource you would like to see on covid19biztools.com you can reach us HERE. *If you would like to be featured in our Q&A segments of the show, email us your business questions info@covid19businesstools.com *Thank you for listening and please share the show or an episode you love with someone who might need it during this challenging time. We believe that when you succeed we all succeed, so let’s share the knowledge and resources!   

On this episode Nick Flynn talks with Mitchell about his new book, Stay: threads, conversations, collaborations, a mixed-media retrospective and self-portrait through's collaborations over the years, including photographer Amy Arbus, actor Robert De Niro, filmmaker Paul Weitz, and artists John Baldessari and Marilyn Minter. This is episode was livestreamed between Miami and outside New York City. Host: Mitchell Kaplan  Producer: Carmen Lucas Editor: Lit Hub Radio https://booksandbooks.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Remembering John Baldessari: artist, friend, teacher, and mentor — Hear reflections from Leslie Jones, Meg Cranston, Fay Ray, Amanda McGough, and Norm Laich on the life & legacy of the celebrated Los Angeles artist This special episode of the Carla podcast is dedicated to remembering John Baldessari, who passed away on January 2nd, 2020 at the age of 88, leaving behind a massive void in the L.A. art community and beyond.You'll hear from five people who knew John—former assistants, students, friends, and colleagues—as they reflect on not only his artistic contributions, but his impact as a dedicated teacher, friend, and mentor. Thanks to LACMA, you'll also hear from John Baldessari himself via an interview taped during his 2010 retrospective, Pure Beauty.John Baldessari lived a life that was indivisible from his practice as an artist and exhibited great care for his community of students and peers. He conducted his practice with generosity, humor, and deep curiosity that will be long remembered by those who had the pleasure to work with and know him, as well as by the countless who have been impacted by the work of the celebrated artist.The Carla podcast is produced by Contemporary Art Review Los Angeles and Lindsay Preston Zappas, edited by Jenna Kagel, and engineered by PJ Shahamat. Our theme music is by Joel P West. Other music in this episode included tracks by Ibeke Shakedown, Lobo Loco, Ari Di Niro, Scott Holmes, and Joel P West. Thank you to LACMA, Amanda McGough, Meg Cranston, Leslie Jones, Norm Laich, and Fay Ray.

The story of how Mark Thompson's AirBnB was burglarized. John Baldessari's house.

In episode 6 we use thoughts on teaching art from John Baldessari as a launching point in discussing whether art … More

John Baldessari is remembered as the 'godfather of conceptual art'. Best known for his witty, provocative photo collages, Baldessari died at the age of 88. Here is a look back at the legacy he left behind. #JohnBaldessari #ConceptualArt #Artist

As Frieze Los Angeles opens, we look at the LA art scene, its artist-run galleries and grassroots spaces and ask: does the city need the art-market juggernaut? We also pay tribute to the late LA-based artist John Baldessari. We look at Frieze Projects and its unique Hollywood film-set location. And we explore the latest show at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, Sahel: Art and Empires on the Shores of the Sahara. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Everything you need to know, didn't know and should look for in his work. RIP John Baldessari. :(

»Svet brez Johna Baldessarija bo gotovo nekoliko bolj dolgočasen« je bil eden od odzivov, ko smo v začetku letošnjega leta izvedeli, da je preminil priljubljeni konceptualni umetnik John Baldessari, ki je s svojimi umetniškimi deli pogosto izzval nasmešek gledalca. Med njegovimi bolj znanimi deli je denimo I will not make anymore boring art, obsesivno ponavljajoče se zapisan stavek, da ne bo več delal dolgočasne umetnosti. A prav s humorjem je nenehno spreminjal naš pogled na umetnost, podobe in jezik. V šestdesetih je začel poudarjati idejo umetniškega dela, v sedemdesetih se je dalje spraševal o omejitvah in konvencijah v umetnosti, pogosto na rahlo paradoksalen in ironičen način. Znan je po pionirski rabi najdene fotografije in apropriiranih filmskih podob, s katerimi je razmišljal o kolektivnem nezavednem, kot ga oblikuje hollywoodska kinematografija in zakonitostih filmske reprezentacije. O Johnu Baldessariju so v oddaji razmišljali Zdenka Badovinac, direktorica Moderne galerije, ki je v devetdesetih gostila njegovo retrospektivo This not That, umetnik Dejan Habicht ter Tadej Pogačar, umetnik in direktor Centra in galerije P74. Foto: John Baldessari: What is Painting (1966-68), vir: Wikimedia, Maurizio Pesce

Andrew Cuomo’s old-school political graphics; ridiculous subway ads, real and fake; Vaughan Oliver, John Baldessari, Sonny Mehta

Arts Alive pays tribute to late conceptual artist John Baldessari with an interview from the Arts Alive archives.

Wie klappt dauerhafte Veränderung in der Liebe? Einfacher als ihr denkt. Elke und Sven erklären hier wie. Dieser Podcast baut auf den Podcast über 'Verantwortung und Selbsterkenntnis' auf. Enjoy. Bild: Die Idee zu den Bildern stammt von m großartigen Künstler John Baldessari, der erst kürzlich im hohen Alter starb.

Episode 2 is action packed! We dig into the perks of a tight feedback loop when sharing your work, my approach to daily making, my every day carry, and what it means to be “a producer”. Show Notes: Quick Links: Words That Move Me Amazon Shopping List: https://amzn.to/37BRUo6 Transcript: Intro: This is words that move me, the podcast where movers and shakers like you get the information and inspiration you need to navigate your creative career with clarity and confidence. I am your host master mover Dana Wilson and if you're someone that loves to learn, laugh and is looking to rewrite the starving artist story, then sit tight but don't stop moving because you're in the right place. Dana: Well hello there and welcome back to episode two. I am super stoked about the podcast today and so glad that you are here. I have a couple of updates before we dig into the meat. Number one, the podcast is now available on iTunes and Spotify and Apple podcasts and I got some very exciting news today that uh, words that move me has ranked in the top 100 of performing arts podcasts on Apple. I am flattered. Thank you so much for listening and for sharing and I'm getting a lot of great feedback from many of you, so thank you for that as well. Please do keep it up. I really love hearing from you. Nn a more somber note this week I learned of the passing of one of my favorite artists, Mr John Baldessari. If you don't know who John Baldessari is, now would be a great time to find out. He is one of my favorite artists of all time and one of the most important conceptual artists of our time. and from what I understand was making art all the way up to the very end. If you don't know who John Baldessari is, please go find out, celebrate the life and work. John Baldessari, we salute you In lighter news. I had a couple important firsts this week that I would like to share with you. I worked as a dancer on a music video yesterday and as part of our look, I was on the receiving end for the first time in my life of acrylic nails that are maybe less than an inch long, but it feels like yardsticks hanging off the end of my fingers. Um, they're gorgeous. Whoa, they're like shiny and cool. Uh, but I've had to relearn how to do everything, especially type. Um, but also get into my car. Unbuckle my seatbelt, buckle my seatbelt, uh, wash my hair, eat food, get food out of my teeth. These are all like super steep learning curve for me right now. So kudos to all the ladies out there who make this work on a daily basis. I am rocked by this. I kinda like it. I think I could get used to it. Um, another first extensions and lots of them, which means lots of glue that I had to get out of my hair today with the fake nails and dish soap. I think it's all out of there, but right now I do have a deep conditioning treatment in and my head is wrapped with um, some wrap. So if you hear that sound it's me touching my head. Okay. I think that's all for updates. Let's get into the good stuff. Oh no, there's one more. In case you couldn't tell I'm sick. I knew this would happen at some point. I didn't expect for it to be so soon in the series. I apologize that right now you're having to listen to my stuffiness and the occasional cough. But I'm going to learn so much about editing out sniffles and sneezes and throat clears, so thank you for your patience today as back to 100% Okay. In episode one, I make the argument

Episode 2 is action packed! We dig into the perks of a tight feedback loop when sharing your work, my approach to daily making, my every day carry, and what it means to be “a producer”. Show Notes: Quick Links: Words That Move Me Amazon Shopping List: https://amzn.to/37BRUo6 Transcript: Intro: This is words that move … Continue reading "Ep. #2 Doing Daily Pt.2 | The Production of Things"

Konflikten i Mellanöstern har åter visat att kulturarv kan bli måltavlor. Vi diskuterar detta Mats Djurberg, generalsekreterare i svenska Unesco-rådet. Plus: de helt färska Guldbagge-nomineringarna. Kulturredaktionens Björn Jansson kommenterar nomineringarna - och vår reporter Nina Asarnoj kommer direkt från presskonferensen med röster och reaktioner. Moderna museets vicechef, Ann-Sofi Noring, talar om den inflytelserika konceptkonstnären John Baldessari som gick bort häromdagen. Museet kommer att ha en stor utställning med hans verk i vår. Dessutom blir det ett reportage av Elina Perdal om närradion, ett medium som slog igenom stort på 70- och 80-talet men som nu för en tynande tillvaro. Dagens OBS-essä är gjord av konstvetaren Linda Fagerström och är den andra i veckans serie om "Detaljer". Programledare: Gunnar Bolin. Producent: Mattias Berg.

Stars and executive producers Kate Moenning and Leisha Hailey talk about the reboot of the Showtime series; Harvey Weinstein's trial gets underway in New York City; the influential L.A.-based artist John Baldessari has died.

Heute: Die 77. Golden Globes; John Baldessari ist tot; Europäische Kulturhauptstadt Rijeka; Scala Reloaded: Das nächste Spiel ist immer das schwerste; Service Bühne

Edward Goldman talks about the solo exhibitions by John Baldessari and Gwynn Murrill at Laguna Art Museum, and Eric Fischl at Sprüth Magers.

Sometimes you might come across someone who’s older and more experienced than you, and they offer to share from their wisdom. It would then be a good idea to listen. John Baldessari is one of America’s most prominent contemporary artists. He’s been around for quite a long time. And he has three things he wants you to know. Also, I have three things I want you to know too.

Horwitz was born in 1932 and died in 2013, and lived and worked in Los Angeles. She studied graphic design in the early 1950s at Art Center College of Design and Fine Art at California State University, Northridge, in the early 1960s. In 1972 Horwitz received a BFA from the California Institute of the Arts, studying alongside John Baldessari and Allan Kaprow, participating in some of Kaprow’s ‘Happenings’, as well as creating her own performances. In 1968, Horwitz submitted a proposal called Suspension of Vertical Beams Moving in Space to LACMA's ‘Art and Technology’ exhibition. The proposal was for a sculpture with eight moving beams, suspended in the air by magnetism and lit at varying intensities. The sculpture was never realised – the project, in the end, included work by only 67 male artists. Yet the attempt to graphically describe the movement of the beams with the rules and systems of eight that Horwitz developed for the proposal became the foundation for numerous bodies of work, including the Sonakinatography series, comprised of drawings, performances and musical compositions. In a 1976 article published in Flash Art, Horwitz described the system by saying “I have created a visual philosophy by working with deductive logic, I had a need to control and compose time as I had controlled and composed two-dimensional drawings and paintings. To do this, I chose a graph as the basis for the visual description of time...Using this graph, I made compositions that depicted rhythm visually.” Sonakinatography is discussed in detail in this episode that takes the form of a conversation between Channa Horwitz’s daughter Ellen Davis and Lisson Gallery’s Ossian Ward in advance of an exhibition of her work in London, titled 'Rules of the Game'. Former Ford Foundation scholarship student at the School of American Ballet in NYC and dancer with the Stuttgart Ballet Company, Ellen Davis has been teaching classical ballet internationally for over 40 years. She has also been the artistic director of numerous ballet and performing arts academies. In 1977 Ellen founded “Yoga of Ballet”, classical ballet taught with a mindful, living yoga approach that can be extended to all of life. Ellen is the daughter of the late conceptual artist Channa Horwitz, and is the archivist and manager of her estate. As a long time collaborator with Horwitz she continues to choreograph, direct and oversee performances in conjunction with her mother’s work. Ellen created the text and sound track of Horwitz’s seminal work “At the Tone," which Horwitz published. “At the tone the time will be .... one moment past the point of seeing anything other than now”. Ellen offers living yoga coaching and is an avid photographer. She writes about the creative process, living the timeless in time and new paradigm teaching and learning approaches. Lisson...ON AIR is written and presented by Hana Noorali

Frederic Tuten grew up in the Bronx. At fifteen, he dropped out of high school with aspirations to become painter and live in Paris. He took odd jobs and eventually went back to school, earning a Ph.D. from NYU. He travelled through Latin and South America, studied mural painting at the University of Mexico and wrote about Brazilian Cinema Novo. He taught at the University of Paris, acted in a short film by Alain Resnais, co-wrote the film Possession, and conducted summer writing workshops with Paul Bowles in Tangiers. The recipient of many awards for his writing, Tuten's short stories, art and film criticism have appeared in ArtForum, the New York Times, Vogue, Granta and other publications. He has written about artists including John Baldessari, Eric Fischl, Pierre Huyghe, David Salle and Roy Lichtenstein. His books include The Adventures of Mao on the Long March; Tintin in the New World; The Green Hour; Van Gogh's Bad Café; Self Portraits: Fictions, and most recently his memoir, My Young Life.· frederictuten.com· www.creativeprocess.info

Frederic Tuten grew up in the Bronx. At fifteen, he dropped out of high school with aspirations to become painter and live in Paris. He took odd jobs and eventually went back to school, earning a Ph.D. from NYU. He travelled through Latin and South America, studied mural painting at the University of Mexico and wrote about Brazilian Cinema Novo. He taught at the University of Paris, acted in a short film by Alain Resnais, co-wrote the film Possession, and conducted summer writing workshops with Paul Bowles in Tangiers. The recipient of many awards for his writing, Tuten's short stories, art and film criticism have appeared in ArtForum, the New York Times, Vogue, Granta and other publications. He has written about artists  including John Baldessari, Eric Fischl, Pierre Huyghe, David Salle and Roy Lichtenstein. His books include The Adventures of Mao on the Long March; Tintin in the New World; The Green Hour; Van Gogh's Bad Café; Self Portraits: Fictions, and most recently his memoir, My Young Life. www.creativeprocess.info

In which Andrew & Polly interview four kids, an alien, and art legend John Baldessari about the steps involved in making art, sandwiches, and paper airplanes.   Many thanks to Malcolm, Jonas, Milena, Sady, Ella, and to Patrick Pardo for arranging our interview with Mr. Baldessari.  You can learn more about John Baldessari at baldessari.org or at most modern art museums. Or via this epic 6-minute biography narrated by Tom Waits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU7V4GyEuXA   All music in this episode was composed by Andrew & Polly. To find more about our music or how to be on this podcast, visit earsnacks.org

I almost went to UCLA for college. Lia Lowenthal makes me regret that I didn't. John Baldessari pours himself a weird nightcap. Listener, listen on. Lia Lowenthal  http://www.lialowenthal.com   Documentation of Lia's Performances https://vimeo.com/user31691511   LL LLC https://lia-lowenthal.squarespace.com     Images:  Under Tylass, 2016  Creaned Gap, 2016  Installation view of GETHENS at Richard Telles, LA Elnotie, Elavid II, and Seasugra Oz  Catoche Spur TB 3911.2 (detail), 2017, cedar, birch, stain, paint, tinted chrome, Elnotie (cast latón, tumbaga), 6 ½ x 8 x 4 ½ inches (16.51 x 20.32 x 11.43 cm), from Lia' show at Richard Telles, LA and 6.  Dilated Surpintel, Socrates Sculpture Park, 2016-2017

In this week's episode of the ArtTactic Podcast, we speak with Robert Diament, director of Counter Editions, who produces prints and multiples by leading contemporary artists, including John Baldessari, Katherine Bernhardt, Cecily Brown, Peter Doig, Tracey Emin, Laura Owens, Christopher Wool, Jonas Wood and many others. First, Robert reveals that most artists create prints in order to make their art accessible to their admirers at an affordable price point. Given the increased demand for prints, Robert tells us if it has become more competitive for printmakers to persuade artists to make prints with them. Also, he touches on the emergence of flippers in the prints market and how Counter Editions tries to sell artworks to genuine collectors. Further, Robert takes us behind the curtain and explains how they collaborate with artists on deciding every aspect of a print, such as the subject matter, medium, size and edition size. Lastly, Robert shares why he thinks prints are a great way for new collectors to start building their collections.

Copying as an art: „Remastered – The Art of Appropriation“ in the Kunsthalle Krems shows, besides historic examples of „appropriation art“, contemporary creations. An exhibition-portrait by CastYourArt.

Kopie als Kunst: „Remastered – Die Kunst der Aneignung“ in der Kunsthalle Krems zeigt historische und zeitgenössische Positionen der „Appropriation Art“. Ein Ausstellungsportrait von CastYourArt.

This week we talk aesthetics, Rafael coins the term Klingoncoco and Jeremy declares anti-social aesthetics impossible. Explain Me, Paddy Johnson and William Powhida’s new art podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/explain-me/id1292346467?mt=2 Kickstarter PWL camp https://storify.com/GloryEdim/pwlcamp2016 Relational Aesthetics https://www.amazon.com/Relational-Aesthetics-Nicolas-Bourriaud/dp/2840660601/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297140777&sr=8-1 A Happening https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happening Jeremy’s accelerator for artists, Lean Artist http://www.leanartistchicago.com/ A Vernacular Web http://art.teleportacia.org/observation/vernacular/ Nam June Paik https://theculturetrip.com/asia/south-korea/articles/nam-june-paik-the-father-of-contemporary-video-art/ Theaster Gates https://art21.org/artist/theaster-gates/ Bad Troemel taco http://gawker.com/5922870/taco-locks-and-other-delights-from-the-internets-weirdest-etsy-store Roy Lichtenstein http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/roy-lichtenstein-1508 Bootstrap http://getbootstrap.com/ The Aesthetics of Failure https://www.guggenheim.org/arts-curriculum/topic/aesthetics-of-failure The New Aesthetic http://jamesbridle.com/works/the-new-aesthetic Ugly LA coffee shop Christian Marclay, The Clock (Yes it’s just a 24 hour video synced to the exact time) https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2011/apr/07/christian-marclay-the-clock Original Blade Runner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eogpIG53Cis Blade Runner 2049 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCcx85zbxz4 Mad Max (1979) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caHnaRq8Qlg Star Trek Discovery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsYu9jsmlHc Geiger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Giger Rococo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rococo Generative design https://www.autodesk.com/solutions/generative-design Rirkrit Tiravanija https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rirkrit_Tiravanija ** Comercial Break ** The Wrong Biennial http://thewrong.org/ 'Ode To Spot' Star Trek: The Next Generation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SySZdvsFYt4 Autodesk airplane design https://www.autodesk.com/redshift/bionic-design/ Bauhaus https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/bauh/hd_bauh.htm Jan Robert Leegte http://www.leegte.org/ John Baldessari http://www.baldessari.org/ Made with ARKit https://twitter.com/madewitharkit?lang=en K Hole’s Youth Mode (lead to norm core) http://khole.net/issues/youth-mode/ Normcore http://www.dazeddigital.com/tag/normcore Chuck Close http://chuckclose.com/

John Baldessari (artist, Santa Monica) & Matthew Higgs (artist & Director, White Columns, New York) in conversation at Frieze London 2009

The Crystal Bridges' prep team installs John Baldessari's unusual sculpture, Beethoven's Trumpet (With Ear), Opus #132 Reverse.

This week: San Francisco checks in with dance legend Anna Halprin!!! Anna Halprin (b. 1920) is a pioneering dancer and choreographer of the post-modern dance movement. She founded the San Francisco Dancer's Workshop in 1955 as a center for movement training, artistic experimentation, and public participatory events open to the local community. Halprin has created 150 full-length dance theater works and is the recipient of numerous awards including the 1997 Samuel H. Scripps Award for Lifetime Achievement in Modern Dance from the American Dance Festival. Her students include Meredith Monk, Trisha Brown, Yvonne Rainer, Simone Forti, Ruth Emmerson, Sally Gross, and many others. Printed Matter Live Benefit Auction Event: March 9, 6-8:30 pm Robert Rauschenberg Project Space 455 West 19th St, New York www.paddle8.com/auctions/printedmatter Printed Matter, Inc, the New York-based non-profit organization committed to the dissemination and appreciation of publications made by artists, will host a Benefit Auction and Selling Exhibition at the Rauschenberg Foundation Project Space to help mitigate damage caused by Hurricane Sandy. As a result of the storm, Printed Matter experienced six feet of flooding to its basement storage and lost upwards of 9,000 books, hundreds of artworks and equipment. Printed Matter's Archive, which has been collected since the organization's founding in 1976 and serves as an important record of its history and the field of artists books as a whole, was also severely damaged. Moreover, the damage sustained by Sandy has made it clear that Printed Matter needs to undertake an urgent capacity-building effort to establish a durable foundation for its mission and services into the future. This is the first fundraising initiative of this scale to be undertaken by the organization in many years, and will feature more than 120 works generously donated from artists and supporters of Printed Matter. The Sandy Relief Benefit for Printed Matter will be held at the Rauschenberg Project Space in Chelsea and will run from February 28 through March 9th. The Benefit has two components: a selling exhibition of rare historical publications and other donated works and an Auction of donated artworks. A special preview and reception will be held February 28th, 6-8 pm, to mark the unveiling of all 120 works and to thank the participating artists and donors. The opening will feature a solo performance by cellist Julia Kent (Antony and the Johnsons), followed by a shared DJ set from Lizzi Bougatsos (Gang Gang Dance) & Kyp Malone (TV on the Radio). The event is free and open to the public. All works will then be available for viewing at the Rauschenberg Project Space March 1 – March 9, gallery hours. All Selling Exhibition works may be purchased during this period and Auction works will be available for bidding online. Bids can be made at www.paddle8.com/auctions/printedmatter. A live Benefit Auction Event will take place March 9, 6-8:30 pm with approximately 20 selected works to be auctioned in a live format. Bidding on these works will commence at 7pm sharp, while silent bids can be made on all other Auction works. Note, highest online bids will be transferred to the room. For absentee bidding of works, please contact Keith Gray (Printed Matter) at 212 925 0325 or keith@printedmatter.org. The evening will feature a performance by Alex Waterman on solo cello with electronics. Admission is $150 and tickets may be pre-purchased here. There will be only limited capacity. Highlighted auction works include an oversize ektacolor photograph from Richard Prince, a woven canvas piece from Tauba Auerbach, an acrylic and newsprint work from Rirkrit Tiravanija, a large-scale Canopy painting from Fredrik Værslev, a rare dye transfer print from Zoe Leonard, a light box by Alfredo Jaar, a book painting by Paul Chan, a carbon on paper work from Frances Stark, a seven-panel plexi-work with spraypainted newsprint from Kerstin Brätsch, a C-print from Hans Haacke, a firefly drawing from Philippe Parreno, a mixed-media NASA wall-piece from Tom Sachs, a unique print from Rachel Harrison, a vintage xerox poem from Carl Andre, an encyclopedia set of hand-made books from Josh Smith, a photograph from Klara Liden, a table-top sculpture from Carol Bove, Ed Ruscha’s Rooftops Portfolio, as well as original works on canvas and linen by Cecily Brown, Cheyney Thompson, Dan Colen, Adam McEwen, RH Quaytman, and many others. These Auction works can be previewed at: www.paddle8.com/auctions/printedmatter In addition to auction works, a vitrine-based exhibition of rare books, artworks and ephemera are available for viewing and purchase. This material includes some truly remarkable items from the personal collection of Robert Rauschenberg, donated by the Robert Rauschenberg Foundation in memory of the late Printed Matter Board Member, bookseller and publisher, John McWhinnie. Among the works available are books and artworks from Marcel Duchamp, Willem de Kooning, Alfred Steiglitz, Joseph Beuys, Brigid Berlin (Polk), as well as a Claes Oldenburg sculpture, a rare William Burroughs manuscript, and the Anthology Film Archive Portfolio (1982). Additional artists’ books have been generously donated by the Sol LeWitt Estate. Works include pristine copies of Autobiography (1980), Four Basic Kinds of Straight Lines (1969), Incomplete Open Cubes (1974), and others. Three Star Books have kindly donated a deluxe set of their Maurizio Cattelan book edition. These works can be viewed and purchased at the space. For inquiries about available works please contact Printed Matter’s Associate Director Max Schumann at 212 925 0325 or mschumann@printedmatter.org. Co-chairs Ethan Wagner & Thea Westreich Wagner and Phil Aarons & Shelley Fox Aarons have guided the event, and Thea Westreich Art Advisory Services has generously lent its expertise and assisted in the production of the auction. In anticipation of the event Printed Matter Executive Director James Jenkin said: “Not only are we hopeful that this event will help us to put Sandy firmly behind us, it is incredibly special for us. To have so many artists and friends associated with our organization over its 36 years come forward and support us in this effort has been truly humbling.“ Auction includes work by: Michele Abeles, Ricci Albenda, Carl Andre, Cory Arcangel, Assume Vivid Astro Focus, Tauba Auerbach, Trisha Baga, John Baldessari, Sebastian Black, Mark Borthwick, Carol Bove, Kerstin Brätsch, Sascha Braunig, Olaf Breuning, Cecily Brown, Sophie Calle, Robin Cameron, Sean Joseph Patrick Carney, Nathan Carter, Paul Chan, Dan Colen, David Kennedy Cutler, Liz Deschenes, Mark Dion, Shannon Ebner, Edie Fake, Matias Faldbakken, Dan Graham, Robert Greene, Hans Haacke, Marc Handelman, Rachel Harrison, Jesse Hlebo, Carsten Höller, David Horvitz, Marc Hundley, Alfredo Jaar, Chris Johanson, Terence Koh, Joseph Kosuth, Louise Lawler, Pierre Le Hors, Leigh Ledare, Zoe Leonard, Sam Lewitt, Klara Liden, Peter Liversidge, Charles Long, Mary Lum, Noah Lyon, McDermott & McGough, Adam McEwen, Ryan McNamara, Christian Marclay, Ari Marcopoulos, Gordon Matta-Clark, Wes Mills, Jonathan Monk, Rick Myers, Laurel Nakadate, Olaf Nicolai, Adam O'Reilly, Philippe Parreno, Jack Pierson, Richard Prince, RH Quaytman, Eileen Quinlan, Sara Greenberger Rafferty, Ed Ruscha, Tom Sachs, David Sandlin, Paul Mpagi Sepuya, Cindy Sherman, Josh Smith, Keith Smith, Buzz Spector, Frances Stark, Emily Sundblad, Andrew Sutherland, Peter Sutherland, Sarah Sze, Panayiotis Terzis, Cheyney Thompson, Rirkrit Tiravanija, Nicola Tyson, Penelope Umbrico, Fredrik Værslev, Visitor, Danh Vo, Dan Walsh and Ofer Wolberger.

Speakers for this symposium provided a rich overview of documentary photography from the 1940s through the 1990s. Jason Hill, PhD candidate, Department of Art History, University of Southern California, reviewed the 1940s newspaper PM. Louis Kaplan, Professor, History and Theory of Photography, Department of Visual Studies, University of Toronto Mississauga, spoke on William Klein's 1956 photobook. David Campany, Reader in Photography, The University of Westminster, spoke on Dan Graham. Heather Diack, Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Art History, Visual Art and Theory, University of British Columbia, talk about John Baldessari. Sophie Hackett, Assistant Curator of Photography, Art Gallery of Ontario, discussed Barbara Kruger. Abigail Solomon-Godeau, Professor, History of Art and Architecture, University of California, Santa Barbara, spoke on the 1990 Rodney King beatings. This event, held in conjunction with the special photography exhibition American Modern: Abbott, Evans, Bourke-White, was supported by the Terra Foundation for American Art. This podcast is brought to you by the Ancient Art Podcast. Explore more at ancientartpodcast.org.

Speakers for this symposium provided a rich overview of documentary photography from the 1940s through the 1990s. Jason Hill, PhD candidate, Department of Art History, University of Southern California, reviewed the 1940s newspaper PM. Louis Kaplan, Professor, History and Theory of Photography, Department of Visual Studies, University of Toronto Mississauga, spoke on William Klein's 1956 photobook. David Campany, Reader in Photography, The University of Westminster, spoke on Dan Graham. Heather Diack, Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Art History, Visual Art and Theory, University of British Columbia, talk about John Baldessari. Sophie Hackett, Assistant Curator of Photography, Art Gallery of Ontario, discussed Barbara Kruger. Abigail Solomon-Godeau, Professor, History of Art and Architecture, University of California, Santa Barbara, spoke on the 1990 Rodney King beatings. This event, held in conjunction with the special photography exhibition American Modern: Abbott, Evans, Bourke-White, was supported by the Terra Foundation for American Art. This podcast is brought to you by the Ancient Art Podcast. Explore more at ancientartpodcast.org.

Speakers for this symposium provided a rich overview of documentary photography from the 1940s through the 1990s. Jason Hill, PhD candidate, Department of Art History, University of Southern California, reviewed the 1940s newspaper PM. Louis Kaplan, Professor, History and Theory of Photography, Department of Visual Studies, University of Toronto Mississauga, spoke on William Klein's 1956 photobook. David Campany, Reader in Photography, The University of Westminster, spoke on Dan Graham. Heather Diack, Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Art History, Visual Art and Theory, University of British Columbia, talk about John Baldessari. Sophie Hackett, Assistant Curator of Photography, Art Gallery of Ontario, discussed Barbara Kruger. Abigail Solomon-Godeau, Professor, History of Art and Architecture, University of California, Santa Barbara, spoke on the 1990 Rodney King beatings. This event, held in conjunction with the special photography exhibition American Modern: Abbott, Evans, Bourke-White, was supported by the Terra Foundation for American Art. This podcast is brought to you by the Ancient Art Podcast. Explore more at ancientartpodcast.org.

Speakers for this symposium provided a rich overview of documentary photography from the 1940s through the 1990s. Jason Hill, PhD candidate, Department of Art History, University of Southern California, reviewed the 1940s newspaper PM. Louis Kaplan, Professor, History and Theory of Photography, Department of Visual Studies, University of Toronto Mississauga, spoke on William Klein's 1956 photobook. David Campany, Reader in Photography, The University of Westminster, spoke on Dan Graham. Heather Diack, Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Art History, Visual Art and Theory, University of British Columbia, talk about John Baldessari. Sophie Hackett, Assistant Curator of Photography, Art Gallery of Ontario, discussed Barbara Kruger. Abigail Solomon-Godeau, Professor, History of Art and Architecture, University of California, Santa Barbara, spoke on the 1990 Rodney King beatings. This event, held in conjunction with the special photography exhibition American Modern: Abbott, Evans, Bourke-White, was supported by the Terra Foundation for American Art. This podcast is brought to you by the Ancient Art Podcast. Explore more at ancientartpodcast.org.

This week Duncan and Richard talk to Michelle Grabner and Annika Marie about Picturing the Studio and among other things whether or not anyone does four studio visits a day. Go check out the show, even the art I disliked was interesting. Lifted from SAIC: This exhibition explores the richly complex politically- and psychologicaly-charged notion of the artist's studio today. With works by over 30 artists spanning the past two decades, this exhibition also includes several specially designed installations undertaken by artists on site. Curated by Michelle Grabner, SAIC, and Annika Marie, Columbia College, "Picturing the Studio" is presented in conjunction with the College Art Association's 98th Annual Conference in Chicago, February 11-13, 2010. It is made possible in part with funds from the College Art Association and the Illinois Art Council, a state agency. Artists include: Bas Jan Ader, Conrad Bakker, John Baldessari, Stephanie Brooks, Ivan Brunetti, Ann Craven, Julian Dashper, Dana DeGiulio, Susanne Doremus, Joe Fig, Dan Fischer, Julia Fish, Nicholas Frank, Alicia Frankovich, Judith Geichman, Rodney Graham, Karl Haendel, Shane Huffman, Barbara Kasten, Matt Keegan, Daniel Lavitt, Adelheid Mers, Tom Moody, Bruce Nauman, Paul Nudd, Frank Piatek, Leland Rice, David Robbins, Kay Rosen, Amanda Ross-Ho, Carrie Schneider, Roman Signer, Amy Sillman, Frances Stark, Nicholas Steindorf, and James Welling.

Why has a veteran Californian artist arranged for a beautiful woman and her poodle to share an ear-shaped sofa? Fantasy has never seemed so real at the Sprüth Magers gallery in London, finds Adrian Searle

Having been awarded the 2009 Golden Lion Lifetime Achievement at the 53rd Venice Biennale and just before the opening of his exhibition at Tate Modern, John Baldessari: Pure Beauty, the artist discusses his career with fellow artist Simon Patterson.

Acclaimed artist John Baldessari discusses his commissioned piece, part of the Stuart Collection to create a site-specific artwork at UCSD's Geisel Library. Series: "Stuart Collection" [Arts and Music] [Show ID: 5813]