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Wenn in Produktteams das Verständnis fehlt, reden Menschen oft aneinander vorbei. Und manchmal reichen ein Stift und ein Flipchart, um das zu ändern. Olaf Bublitz kennt diese Situationen gut. Als erfahrener Agilist, Berater und Mitautor des neuen Buchs Visual Product Ownership setzt er sich seit Jahren dafür ein, visuelle Methoden in der Produktentwicklung gezielter und wirkungsvoller einzusetzen. In dieser Folge spricht er mit Tim über die Kraft der Visualisierung. Nicht als Deko oder hübsches Extra, sondern als echte Unterstützung für Klarheit, Zusammenarbeit und Entscheidungsfindung. Denn visuelle Methoden in der Produktentwicklung helfen dabei, komplexe Zusammenhänge sichtbar zu machen – über alle Ebenen hinweg: von der Strategie bis zur operativen Umsetzung. Olaf versteht unter visuellen Methoden nicht nur Zeichnungen oder Sketchnotes. Für ihn beginnt visuelles Arbeiten schon mit einem Canvas, einem Taskboard oder einer Map. Sobald Informationen so aufbereitet sind, dass man sie auf einen Blick erfassen und besprechen kann, entsteht ein gemeinsamer Fokus. Und genau darum geht es in der Produktentwicklung: Orientierung schaffen und Diskussion ermöglichen – ohne sich in Textwüsten zu verlieren. Viele der Methoden, die Olaf beschreibt, helfen dabei, Perspektiven nebeneinander sichtbar zu machen. Ob Eventstorming, Story Mapping oder Strategy Maps: Sie bringen Teams ins Gespräch – und lassen Unterschiede, Lücken oder Missverständnisse frühzeitig erkennen. Genau das ist der eigentliche Mehrwert. Denn visuelle Methoden in der Produktentwicklung machen nicht nur Dinge sichtbar. Sie machen Zusammenarbeit möglich. Es geht nicht darum, möglichst viele Methoden zu nutzen, sondern diese passenden auszuwählen – je nach Kontext, Ziel und Team. In seinem Buch fasst Olaf über 50 bewährte Methoden zusammen und stellt sie in sogenannten Strings dar: sinnvolle Verbindungen von Methoden entlang typischer Fragestellungen in der Produktentwicklung. So entstehen keine isolierten Visualisierungen, sondern ein durchgängiger visueller Arbeitsraum. Besonders spannend wird es, wenn Teams ihre gesamte Produktarbeit sichtbar machen – etwa in Form eines sogenannten "Obeya"-Raums. Olaf beschreibt, wie visuelle Methoden in der Produktentwicklung dabei helfen, verschiedene Ebenen miteinander zu verbinden: Ziele, Kennzahlen, Roadmaps, Backlogs, Abhängigkeiten. Alles sichtbar, strukturiert und zugänglich – ob physisch im Raum oder digital auf einem Miro-Board. Was zählt, ist der gemeinsame Blick. Die Folge ist eine Einladung: Visualisierung nicht als Stilmittel zu sehen, sondern als praktisches Werkzeug. Wer damit beginnt, kleine Elemente sichtbar zu machen – ein Ablauf, eine Idee, ein Engpass – schafft einen Einstieg. Und wer als Produktteam konsequent mit visuellen Methoden arbeitet, verändert nicht nur die Art, wie Entscheidungen getroffen werden. Sondern auch die Qualität der Zusammenarbeit. Frühere Folgen die zum Thema gut passen bzw. in der Episode genannt wurden: - Visual Leadership für Product Owner mit Sabina Lammert - Klarheit als Superpower für Produktmenschen mit Arne Kittler - Event Storming: Verständnis für komplexe Produkte schaffen mit Jürgen Meurer - Nutze Story Mapping, um mit Stakeholdern über Outcome zu sprechen - Wardley Mapping - Produktstrategie wie ein Schachspiel mit Florian Meyer - Impact Mapping - was zahlt wirklich auf unser Business Ziel ein? mit Büşra Coşkuner - Assumption Mapping Wer mit Olaf Bublitz in Kontakt treten möchte, erreicht ihn gut über sein LinkedIn-Profil. Die Website zum Buch findet ihr unter: visual-productownership.de. Welche visuellen Methoden nutzt ihr in der Produktentwicklung – und was funktioniert bei euch besonders gut? Wir Produktwerker freuen uns, wenn du deine Tipps und Erfahrungen aus der Praxis mit den anderen Hörerinnen und Hörern teilen möchtest. Hinterlasse gerne einen Kommentar unterm Blog-Artikels oder auf unserer Produktwerker LinkedIn-Seite.
A few engaging review activities for ELA come in handy around this time of year, as the calendar takes over and students pop off to random awards ceremonies, spirit events, and slideshows. Sometimes you see them for one day in a row, sometimes two, but getting in a groove is definitely a challenge! So, in case you're in search of creative review activities that will get students looking back over all that they've learned before a final project or exam, or just before heading off into the summer horizon, here are six. I'm going to base them on a fun review choice board I made for The Lighthouse seasonal section. So, Lighthouse members, be sure to snag it if you like the sound of all this! And if you're not in The Lighthouse yet, it will be opening up in June for new folks, so be sure you're on my email list so you don't miss the invitation. Go Further: Explore alllll the Episodes of The Spark Creativity Teacher Podcast. Get my popular free hexagonal thinking digital toolkit Join our community, Creative High School English, on Facebook. Come hang out on Instagram. Enjoying the podcast? Please consider sharing it with a friend, snagging a screenshot to share on the ‘gram, or tapping those ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ to help others discover the show. Thank you!
In this episode Jacqui Read is our guest. She is the author of the book “Communication Patterns – A Guide for Developers and Architects”. Jacqui talk about communication patterns. Learn about what communication patterns are and why they are very useful to you as a software architect. Jacqui will speak at the “Agile meets Architecture” conference on April 3rd about “Design Patterns for Software Diagramming”. We have a special discount code for the conference for our audience 10% off: AMASAIS10 Links Jacqui's Communication Patterns book Jacqui's homepage Simon Brown - C4 Architecture Model and Structurizr Lisa Schäfer zu Sketchnotes in der IT
Heute habe ich eine wahnsinnig inspirierende Unternehmerin im Podcast: **Simone Abelmann**, Gründerin von *Funny Sketchnotes*. Ihre Geschichte ist mega motivierend – Simone ist schon seit 2005 selbstständig, als wir uns kennenlernten hatte sie sich ein Webdesign-Business und eine Community aufgebaut und war bereits erfolgreich selbstständig. Doch das lies sie los, um sich mit Sketchnotes selbstständig zu machen. Heute führt sie ein echtes Online-Unternehmern mit mehreren Angestellten und Freelancern. Wie sie diesen Weg gegangen ist, welche Herausforderungen sie beim Wachsen gemeistert hat und warum Netzwerke in ihrer Entwicklung eine Schlüsselrolle spielen, erfährst du in dieser Folge. ---
Die nächste Konferenz-Saison steht ja quasi schon in den Startlöchern - wie wir am meisten aus dem Input auf Konferenzen mitnehmen, beleuchten wir in dieser Folge.
Die eigene Berufung finden. Passion und Leidenschaft entdecken und dann ausleben. Das ist doch etwas, nach dem wir alle suchen, oder nicht? Es ist aus meiner Sicht der stärkste und auch der beste innere Antrieb, warum sich viele mit dem eigenen Herzensthema selbstständig machen. So auch Cathrin Kröll, die als Visualisierungs-Expertin Unternehmen und Einzelpersonen mit ihren Botschaften sichtbar macht. Nahbar und offen sprechen wir über ihren Weg in die Selbstständigkeit, eigene Entwicklungen und warum Vans an ihren Füßen einfach eine gute Sache sind. Lass dich im heutigen Interview inspirieren und überraschen von der wundervollen Cathrin Kröll. Mehr zu Cathrin: WebsiteInstagram LinkedIn Warteliste Gruppenprogramm Mehr zu mir: NewsletterStarter Coaching - FrühlingsofferBuche dir hier dein Kennenlern-Gespräch mit mirWebseiteFacebookInstagramLinkedInFreebie 'Test Selbstsabotage'Masterclass 'Empower Your Kids'Möchtest Du in Balance zum Erfolg?
S6 EP4 Tentang geologi, hidrogeologi, geotermal, dan energi bersih Membahas tentang geologi, yang merupakan studi tentang bumi, struktur, dan substansinya, hidrogeologi, yang merupakan studi tentang distribusi dan pergerakan air di bawah permukaan bumi, geotermal, yang merujuk pada panas bumi yang dapat digunakan untuk menghasilkan energi, dan energi bersih, yang merupakan sumber energi yang memiliki dampak lingkungan yang minimal dan merupakan alternatif yang berkelanjutan untuk bahan bakar fosil. #Sketchnotes: https://photos.app.goo.gl/s1FigykeXqN4awX96
Do you read something and have no memory of what you just read? Does highlighting information help, but not as much as you would like? Taking notes using visuals is a game changer. In this episode, Patty shares what SketchNotes are and how she uses them to remember more of what she wants to so she can use that information to support her brain with more ease!The ADHD-Friendly Planner On-Demand Course PLUS Planner is available in the ADHD-Friendly shop for only $79.95: https://www.adhdfriendly.com/adhd-friendly-shop/Thank you for checking out this episode of the ADHD Friendly podcast with Patty Blinderman!!New episodes are posted every Wednesday! Subscribe to the channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@adhdfriendlyCheck out/Join the ADHD-Friendly membership here: https://www.adhdfriendly.com/adhd-friendly-all-access-membership-includes/Please subscribe to my YouTube channel, ADHD Friendly Podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. For more information on the ADHD-Friendly services offered by Patty, please visit her website: ADHDFriendly.com
Welcome to the author spotlight series at Spark Creativity. In this series, you'll hear from authors sharing their work directly into your classroom. So sit back and listen in. Today we're hearing from Nancy Tandon, reading from her book, The Way I Say It. Nancy has worked as an elementary school teacher, a speech-language pathologist, and an adjunct professor of Phonetics and Child Language Development, all of which helped plant seeds for stories about awesome kids doing brave things. Her debut middle grade novel, The Way I Say It (Charlesbridge, 2022) was an American Booksellers Association Indies Introduce and Indies Next pick as well as a Junior Library Guild Gold Standard Selection. My hope is that you'll play this episode to your students on an upcoming Friday, sharing the guiding sketchnotes handout below with them so they can jot down their key takeaways as they listen. Grab the Novel-Specific Sketchnotes Sheet: Click here Play it from Youtube for your Students: https://youtu.be/CE6UDEl9p5Y Learn more about author Nancy Tandon: https://nancytandon.com/ Go Further: Explore alllll the Episodes of The Spark Creativity Teacher Podcast. Join our community, Creative High School English, on Facebook. Come hang out on Instagram. Enjoying the podcast? Please consider sharing it with a friend, snagging a screenshot to share on the ‘gram, or tapping those ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ to help others discover the show. Thank you!
Die Seele zum Strahlen bringen...☀️...Wer will das nicht? In diesem Video erfährst du, wie kleine Zeichnungen, dich dabei unterstützen können. Wenn du... ☀️ auf der Suche nach einer stärkenden, hebenden und freudvollen Routine im Alltag bist, ☀️ einen besonderen Weg suchst, das Schöne in deinem Leben festzuhalten ☀️ einen leichten Zugang zu deiner Kreativität finden möchtest, ☀️ verstehen willst, was 'Sketchnotes' sind, ☀️ein Tool suchst, mit welchem du dich auf die wichtigsten und wertvollsten Dinge (auch im Beruf) konzentrieren kannst oder ☀️ einfach glaubst, deine künstlerischen Fähigkeiten brächten einen Anschub, dann schau' unbedingt in dieses Gespräch. Ich wünsche dir ganz viel Inspiration und Freude damit. AUCH DU machst die Welt heller ☀️! Links zum Video: (#unbezahltewerbung #sketchnotes #kreativität) - Blick ins Buch und Downloads zum Buch für 0 EUR: https://soulshine-sketchnotes.de - Webseite: https://www.britta-ullrich.de - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@brittaullrich - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soulshine.britta/ - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/britta-ullrich-3b419b26/ - XING: https://xing.to/BrittaIn eigener Sache: Wenn du die Interviews ansehen möchtest, schaue gerne in meinen YouTube-Kanal @auchdumachstdieweltheller hinein: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf5JpX_VvriZQr3uJWJZSmQ Und für kleine Impulse zwischendurch folge mir doch einfach auf Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yvonnemuellerbuergel/?hl=de
Welcome to the second episode of the author spotlight series here at Spark Creativity! In this series, you'll hear from authors sharing their work directly into your classroom. Today we're hearing from Matt de la Peña reading his short story "How to Transform an Everyday, Ordinary Hoop Court into a Place of Higher Learning and You at the Podium," from the collection, Flying Lessons. Stay tuned throughout the year to hear from many more wonderful authors, including Victor Pineiro, Payal Doshi, and Nancy Tandon. You can also check out the first episode in the collection, featuring Megan E. Freeman reading from her novel-in-verse, Alone. Today we're hearing from Matt de la Pena, reading from his short story “How to Transform an Everyday Ordinary Hoop Court into a Place of Higher Learning and You at the Podium,” from the collection Flying Lessons and other Stories. Matt de la Peña is the New York Times-bestselling, Newberry Medal-winning author of seven young adult novels (including Mexican WhiteBoy, We Were Here and Superman: Dawnbreaker) and five picture books (including Last Stop on Market Street and Love). Matt received his MFA in creative writing from San Diego State University and his BA from the University of the Pacific, where he attended school on a full athletic scholarship for basketball. My hope is that you'll play this episode to your students on an upcoming Friday, sharing the guiding sketchnotes handout below with them so they can jot down their key takeaways as they listen. This short story is utterly fantastic, one of my favorites of all time to share with students! ⭐ Grab the Sketchnotes to go with this episode: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mxNfVE710zqUkfb8iGBjZGIA9A2aldz71E3VwNkf4do/copy ⭐ Project the Youtube version for your students in class: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iajc4RH28Pg ⭐ Learn more about Matt de la Peña and his work: https://mattdelapena.com/
This week I want to talk what to do if you're trying to help your students take advantage of the benefits of sketchnotes but they're stuck. We're going to dig into a special video series by Sylvia Duckworth called “Sketchnote Fever” and how it can help. Students often struggle at first with sketchnotes, because they feel ill-equipped to add icons and doodles to their notes if they aren't natural artists. Someone probably told them when they were 6 that they were bad at art, and they've integrated that into their identity by high school. HOWEVER. Sylvia has a wonderful series of short videos teaching by demonstration how to draw simple icons to help illustrate ideas. If you take a few minutes before a time when students will be taking notes and play one of her super short videos, like “School icons,” “Subject icons,” “frames,” or “banners,” students will have a chance to practice these easy icons and build confidence in how to integrate them. Ask your students to keep a special place in their notes where they always draw their icons from the videos, so they slowly build a visual library they can refer to - then REMIND them to refer to it! Little by little, students will become more proficient at creating meaningful sketches to complement their text notes. Which means that they will become better at making their notes memorable through the critical thinking and dual coding that happens when translate what they hear into words and imagery that work together to make meaning. So this week, I want to highly recommend that you follow THIS LINK and check out Sylvia Duckworth's amazing “Sketchnote Fever” series. You'll discover 34 super quick videos and printable handouts of the icons featured in every single one. Isn't that amazing? Thank you, Sylvia! Go Further: Explore alllll the Episodes of The Spark Creativity Teacher Podcast. Join our community, Creative High School English, on Facebook. Come hang out on Instagram. Enjoying the podcast? Please consider sharing it with a friend, snagging a screenshot to share on the ‘gram, or tapping those ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ to help others discover the show. Thank you!
Superpowers School Podcast - Productivity Future Of Work, Motivation, Entrepreneurs, Agile, Creative
We explore the superpower of Voluntary Generosity with the amazing Alejo Porras. If you are looking to grow your business or just looking for some inspiration on how to be more successful, then be sure to listen to Alejo's top tips.We explore how the power of service to others has helped Alejo in his journey from Costa Rica to the United States. His creative work has been re-shared by famous influencers such as Chris Do and others. Alejo PorrasGrowing up in Costa Rica, Alejo wanted to learn all the languages in the world... so he learned to draw. Now, he provides Graphic Recording and illustration services to help corporate brands and agencies share great ideas, inspire people, and solve big problems.His superpower is making abstract ideas easy to understand and impossible to forget through powerful and fun drawings.He has more than 12 years of experience in leadership, creativity, and business and shares his expertise with creative professionals through social media, speaking engagements, and his weekly newsletter (Fresh Ideas).His content covers topics around productivity for creatives, the business of art, and creative mindset.Links:WebsiteInstagramLinkedIn⚡️ In each episode, Paddy Dhanda deep dives into a new human Superpower and gives practical advice on how you can apply it immediately.
“Du kannst nicht zeichnen!” , “Najaaa, das ist schon ganz ok, aber…” , “Und was soll das jetzt sein?” - Wenn du einen dieser Sätze auch schon einmal gehört hast oder selbst zu dir gesagt hast, dann wird diese Folge sehr interessant für dich! Ich spreche mit Simone Abelmann. Sie hat den ersten Online Sketchnotes Club Deutschlands gegründet und macht die Welt mit Sketchnotes bunter! Diese Folge hält so einige Überraschungen bereit. Wir räumen auf mit versteckten Glaubenssätzen, sprechen über kleine Hacks für deinen Alltag und natürlich darüber, warum du jetzt anfangen solltest zu zeichnen. Außerdem erfährst du… - Welche positiven Auswirkungen Kreativität auf dein Leben (und dein Business) hat - Warum du anfangen solltest, zu zeichnen - auch wenn du denkst, du kannst es nicht - Wie sich Glaubenssätze durchs Zeichnen auflösen können - Wie du dich von anderen abhebst und deinen Wiedererkennungswert steigerst Mehr über Simone erfährst du hier: https://www.simoneabelmann.com/ _________________ » Skaliere dein VA-Business - “VA Advanced - von der VA zur Unternehmerin" - Start des intensiven Gruppen-Programms 16.11.23 https://kristinholm.de/va-advanced/ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kristin-holm/message
Interview mit Simone Abelmann Wie sie Ihr Talent aus der Kindheit wiederentdeckt hat und mit Mut und Kreativität ihr eigenes, erfolgreiches Business aufgebaut hat. In diesem Interview erzählt Simone ihren Weg in die Selbständigkeit und gibt viele Tipps, wie auch du es schaffen kannst. Wenn du mehr über Simone und Sketchnotes erfahren möchtest, klicke auf den Link: https://simoneabelmann.com/ Wenn du erfahren möchtest, wie auch du dein Business in nur 30 Tage starten kannst, klicke hier: https://martinasiegl.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/martina-siegl5/message
In this episode, Edmund Gröpl, a retired engineer, discovers how life is often circular. He shares his in-depth knowledge of Zettelkasten (card file in German) and how he links sketchnotes using Obsidian. Edmund shares how he is integrating Zettlekasten and sketchnotes in a new book.Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts, a perfect tool for sketchnoting, available on iOS, Windows, and Android.Concepts' vector-based drawing feature gives you the power to adjust your drawings — any time you like. You can nudge the curve of a line, swap out one brush for another, or change stroke thickness and color at any stage of your drawing — saving hours and hours of rework.Vectors provide clean, crisp, high-resolution output for your sketchnotes at any size you need — large or small. Never worry about fuzzy sketchnotes again.Concepts is a powerful, flexible tool that's ideal for sketchnoting.SEARCH “Concepts” in your favorite app store to give it a try.Running OrderIntroWelcomeWho is Edmund?Origin StoryEdmund's current workSponsor: ConceptsTipsToolsWhere to find EdmundOutroLinksAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Edmund on LinkedinEdmund on InstagramEdmund on TwitterEdmund's eBookLinktreeBook: Zettelkasten by Niklas LuhmannHow To Take Smart NotesThe Back of the Napkin by Dan RoanWriting Useful Books by Rob FitzpatrickThe Sketchnote Handbook by Mike RohdeThe Sketchnote Army PodcastToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Neuland markersStaedtler markersiPad ProApple PencilConceptsMiroObsidianPowerBITipsBenefit from self-organized learning groups.Attend a LernOS sketchnoting circle.Zettelkasten with Obsidian is your second brain for sketchnoting.Take useful notes!CreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerShownotes and transcripts: Esther OdoroSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!Episode TranscriptMike Rohde: Hey everyone, it's Mike, and I'm here with my friend Edmund Gropl. Edmund, how are you?Edmund Gropl: Hello, Mike. Nice to see you. And I put one sentence on paper. Thank you so much for having me.MR: You're so welcome. I'm glad to have you. I'm excited because I know that you're really into this intersection between Zettelkasten and sketch notes. I'm really curious to hear in the section where we talk about current projects, where you're at with that. Because I think one of the things that I struggle with is I produce lots of sketch notes, but the challenge I find is organizing them in a logical way.I think your episode, your interview with us may be really helpful for me to think about how do I do that in a good way. I've got some fits and starts. I'm really personally looking forward to learning and getting some ideas from you. Before we get to that, let's start first with who you are and what you do.EG: Hello, my name is Edmund. I'm here from Germany, living in the Frankfurt area. To make it short, I'm a husband, I'm a father, and I'm a grandfather.MR: Congratulations.EG: Thank you. Thank you very much. Husband since 41 years, father then 33 years, and a grandfather since 10 months.MR: Wow.EG: Both three are really exciting.MR: Well, then congratulations to you for setting an example for us for consistency and reliability, and loyalty. It's always good to see those qualities in people because we need that. We need those models and examples to follow. Talk to us a little bit about, you mentioned to me that you were an engineer. I don't know much more about that. Why don't you talk a little bit about your time as an engineer and your specialty and what was interesting to you in the work that you did?EG: If you're in business, it's very important to talk about your profession, about being an engineer. Since two years, I'm retired, and therefore I have a lot of time and I have my head free thinking for my own, not for the company, not for the customers. It's exciting, what is changing. Is it the same as I did years ago as an engineer, or is there's some new stuff?What I didn't expect that it's a really new phase in life, redefining yourself, and you are not a retired engineer. You are your person as your own. If I look at my hobbies, I love swimming, climbing, drawing, going outside, and so, and these are my hobbies. and it's all the stuff I mostly liked when I was a child.MR: Interesting.EG: Yes. It was climbing on trees. it was playing outside, it was swimming in the gym with my parents, it was drawing, not mathematics, and all the other stuff which came important to me afterwards. That's back to the roots and life seems to be a little bit like a mirror to see what was at the beginning comes back at the end.MR: Rediscovering childhood in a way.EG: Yeah. I didn't read it in a book, and it was not a plan. I had no idea what I would do as a retired engineer, but that was it. In the last years, I was working for a big company as a data scientist. I came here from Darmstadt near Frankfurt, and here it was the time when I came as a young man studying software and systems engineering.Therefore, my head is all full with these engineering tools and concepts and methods and all this way of thinking. Sketchnoting was for me, very surprising to get in contact with all the other guys worldwide. Artists, illustrators' facilitators, and so on and so on. It was really an enrichment of my life to have contact with different people with different professions and so on.That's in short to say about my life. It was one year ago. Do you remember, Mike? It was in March last year. There was a session from you in the internet about sketchnoting, in March 3rd or so?MR: Interesting. It's not one that comes to mind.EG: Eventbrite was the platform where you announced it.MR: It must have been interesting. That must have been—oh, that's a good question. We'll have to look and see. On the top of my head, I don't remember. The reason is there's been so many events that I've been doing that it's not surprising that I don't remember what it was.EG: I was really happy that I could watch your presentation about sketchnoting, about drawing, and all this stuff. Real life, it was Mike, personally. It was not a book, it was you in person. There were a lot of visitors in your presentation. There was this chat by, near all these pictures, and there was one of the participants from New York City. Her name was—there was only a short form, Caroline New York City and she posted Zettelkasten and Sonke Ahrens.I thought, okay, it was a session for Mike Rohde, it's about sketchnoting, there's some new stuff about sketchnoting. I have a whole bunch of literature about sketchnoting. I think all the books of all sketchnoters worldwide in different languages are on my bookshelf. I said, okay, Zettelkasten, it must be amazing. I bought this book, let me show you. It's a Kindle book, "How to Take Smart Notes."MR: Interesting.EG: Yes. Sketchnotes, smart notes, smart sketch notes. I started reading, and I was disappointed.MR: It was all text.EG: Yes. It's only text. The whole book is full of text. No sketchnotes at all.MR: Interesting.EG: And it was about note-taking. Then this boring stuff at the beginning, because only text, I said, okay, if it's not said what is the best way for note-taking, and I translate it in what is the best way for sketchnote taking or taking sketchnotes. I read all this book about note-taking with a sketchnote metaphor in mind, and that was an amazing book.This book from Sonke Ahrens it's not written from an engineer or from a writer, it's a German sociologist as well as this Niklas Luhmann. Let me say in short, who invented this Zettlekasten method.Sonke Ahrens explained it in his own language, and it's an amazing stuff. It's worth reading twice or three times this book. It's about 250 pages. What I learned reading one book about sketchnoting is not okay. I read the book, I'm now a sketchnoter.It needs a lot of practice. With the note-taking, it's the same as taking sketchnotes, it needs a lot of practice, but you need to know a lot of principles behind, and I say hidden principles. In the first moment, you couldn't see these principles.Mike, I looked at your book first. It was amazing, the sketchnotes, the ideas, but it needs maybe one or two years, I came back to your book and say, okay, now I understand it. You have no chance to understand it from the beginning. With note-taking, it's nearly the same.That is my hobby since one year. Since your online session about sketchnoting. To mix it a little bit up to say, okay, that's Sonke Ahrens and that's the Mike Rohde, put it together and that's my hobby since nearly one year. 362 days is my Zettlekasten hobby.MR: I had no idea that a workshop that I was teaching had sparked you along this path. That's really exciting to hear. That's pretty cool.I know we're gonna talk more about what Zettelkasten is, how you've overlapped it or integrated it with sketchnoting, but I think I wanna go back. We've gone back one year to last March.Now, let's go back to when you were a kid, and as you grew up in school and as you went to university, and as you worked in business as an engineer. I'm really curious, what were the moments in time, because you talked about when you were a kid, you liked drawing and now here you are again at the end drawing again in retirement years.What was it that kept drawing alive? Or maybe it didn't stay alive and it had to be resurrected later. Talk about your path from a little boy to now. What were those key moments that brought you to where you are now?EG: It's not drawing as a child, as a senior citizen, or so. It's at school first. I loved drawing most. Then they said, "Drawing is for small children. You are growing up and the really intelligent and clever ones, they can write and they can calculate. Drawing is only for the small ones."But that was at the beginning of the school, but in mathematics, there are also some specialties where you can draw with a pencil, with a ruler, with a circle. It's not freehand drawing, but it's visual. I learned in mathematics also in physics, that all the visual stuff was for me, easy to understand.For example, I'm really good in mathematics and physics and chemistry, for example. There was a lot of stuff I had to learn by heart that was not my idea. The visualization of elements, it was a little bit boring. Mathematics and physics was much more exciting too. In physics, to draw the experiments from the teacher on the sheet of paper and to say, okay, that's the motor, that's the battery and have it with symbols and the wires you can draw.This physical stuff was the way I learned. That was also a reason for becoming an engineer. Engineering is also stuff with drawings there. There are concepts, there are diagrams, all this visual stuff, and that helps a lot. Coming in my professional life, after I was a systems engineer from university, I had to communicate with others, with the colleagues, with my boss, with the customers.Then my drawings were these engineer drawings. I would not like to explain it too much in words. I will draw this system. We want to sell you this system that solves your problem, and so on. Or this process diagrams, flow diagrams and all this stuff. That was all visual. Therefore, I'm sure there are different styles of thinking maybe we are all born with. If you're more visual thinker, it's easier to become an engineer or an architect, and it's easier than to become a lawyer or something like this.MR: I know the physicist that I've spoken with Rob Dimeo and others who talk about physics is really dependent on visuals, and so, they find it a real natural companion to sketchnoting, which is pretty interesting that you mentioned it as well.EG: That's the side when I came to sketchnoting—and let me show you one book, I think one of my first sketch noting book was from Dan Roam.MR: "The Back of the Napkin." Yep. Great book.EG: It was a lot about the concepts itself. And I understand the concepts with a mind of an engineer, but years later, after Dan Roam, that was your book, I had a sketchnoting workshop over five days learning sketchnoting from a guy from Berlin, if I remember, Dick Hanaman.MR: Dick Hanaman. Okay.EG: Dick Hanaman from Berlin, he's giving sketchnoting workshops.MR: Great.EG: That was one of the books he recommended. With this book and with this workshop, I learned the stuff behind it, what does it mean to draw a line in this or in this way, why are there thicker and thinner lines, how to focus the attention on a special part of the drawing, and that was not in this book. Then came the book of Mike Rohde. I was happy to understand after years what drawing really means. I was working for a big company with more than 200,000 employees.MR: Oh, wow.EG: There's an internal platform or an internal community of self-organized learning. If you have some interesting stuff in engineering, in whatever, in the internet, you can post that you will held a session via Zoom or a special tool to show others, oh, there's interesting stuff for you about databases, proclaiming, and so on. And I offered Sketchnoting sessions, and it was two weeks after my first sketchnoting workshop and I held this session with 400 colleagues.MR: No pressure. Edmund, no pressure.EG: It was a feeling like flying in the air.MR: Wow.EG: I was able to draw a sticky man and write my name on paper. It was not only one session, it was repeatable. Week after week. That was really a nice feeling to say, oh, that's the right direction, and therefore I banned all my PowerPoint from my presentations, used the flip chart with the Neuland markers. It is the only ones I can use because I can use them for drawing and for writing. If the paper is white, the pen is black. What we had in the company before was you can't use this stuff. I always had my own Neuland markers with me.MR: Me too.EG: And the corporate material or markers most times they were old, two or three years old.MR: Dry.EG: Dry. You have to throw them away. That was it all with Neuland. Also, as an engineer, drawing on a whiteboard, it was the same with the dry markers years before, but with the Neuland markers for the whiteboard, I was the king. If we had a meeting, blah, blah, blah, this and this. Then Edmund uses his Neuland marker, went to the whiteboard, and explained how it works.MR: What we just talk about, Edmund would visualize it for you.EG: Yeah. It was amazing. It was all I think a little bit by excellent. It was not planned in my career.MR: Organic, maybe a good way to describe it, which is always good because you follow it because it's interesting. You didn't follow it because somebody told you to, or you had to because of your job. You did it because you were interested and you came to love it, it seems like.EG: Most of the stuff by accident, and what was the term I got from the internet? Serendipity. To be open to see things you wouldn't expect. As I told you, it was the same with Zettelkasten. It was, you were sketchnoting session in the internet.MR: That's funny.EG: The girl from New York said, Zettlekasten and Sonke Ahrens. Really cool stuff.MR: You just never know what's going to send you in the new direction.EG: Yeah.MR: Which is great. That's a great thing about life, right, if you're open to it. Which I would argue that people that stay in the sketch note community are very open and interested and curious people, I think by nature. Probably something else you share in common when you go to an event with other sketch noters, everybody's curious and loves to learn and loves to share. Those combination of things seem consistent to me. That makes a great community because there's just endless things you can learn about and endless things to do, which is exciting.EG: It's really my experience learning and talking with sketch noters, it's just another family. It's not the engineering style. It's another mindset. And I love it. They are from different professions. That's a big difference to my typical work as an engineer or as a data scientist.MR: You also have the international component, so not only are they from different walks of life and different interests, but they're also from different countries. Even then you have another perspective change, right? Even in countries in Europe as well as the United States and around the world, everyone has a little bit different view on things so you can learn some new things from those people from other places. At least that's what I've experienced. My life is so much richer because of the community for sure.EG: In this community, I really love this sharing mindset and this lifelong learning. And being curious, there's new stuff. There's a new app for drawing, could you please tell me a little bit about it? For these digital tools, they freely give away a digital brush set.MR: Right. Yeah, it's a great community, and we're glad you're part of it. Thank you for your contributions for sure. Speaking of contributions, I'd like to hear a little bit more about Zettelkasten, how it integrates or overlaps with sketchnoting.Probably, the best place to be would be to give us some history. Where did the term Zettelkasten—it seems to me like a German word from what I've done. Maybe take it from there and give us a backstory. Obviously, we know how you came across it. How do you then apply the Zettelkasten idea with sketchnoting?EG: You are right. Zettlekasten is a German word, and I think if you translate it right, it's a slip box. Typically, a slip box is a wooden box, small ones with a lot of note cards. This German, this Niklas Luhmann, this professor from Germany, a sociologist from Germany from the last century. He had a wooden Zettleksten with about 90,000 notes he'd taken in his life.MR: Wow. He must have had more than one box for that.EG: Yeah. It's a small format, and there's only written down his idea he got while reading a book while reading an article. Not reading in the internet. That wasn't invented at that time. When he was ready with creating this note card, he put it in a Zettelkasten.MR: A slip box. Yep.EG: In the slip box, yes. But you would say, okay, what's the way coming back to this Zettel or to this note card some days, weeks, or months or years later? That was the system we all know if you're familiar with the internet, he put a number on top of his note card, an identificater, an ID. It was written the date and the time when he created this note. And whenever he put some ideas on paper, he linked this note with another ID of another note card.For example, if you would say ideas not art, and put it only here on this note card, then he should put a link to the note card of Mike Rohde, with a Mike Rohde Id and maybe a must be an ID from this book.MR: Got it.EG: Then he put it in his Zettelkasten. Later on, if he was working on an idea, he want to write an article, or was writing a book yet idea, okay, there are some note cards. They're important for this stuff. I got them from my Zettelkasten. With these two or three cards, there are a lot of connections to the other note cards in the Zettelkasten.MR: Then you pull those note cards, right?EG: He put this on his desk, rearrange it a little bit.MR: Card sorting. Yeah.EG: Card sorting and say, okay, all the ideas are on the table. It's an easy stuff for writing. He was never sitting with a blank sheet of paper. Always starts with his notes. Note cards he captured days, months, or years ago. Niklas Luhman, it is said he was very productive in his life. I'm not good in remembering numbers, about 400 articles and 90 books. It's unbelievable for a lifetime.MR: Wow. The thing that makes me wonder is there must have been some kind of index. When you do the ID on the card, you must have to also—I think about the bullet journal. When you put entries into your book, you're supposed to add that to the index so that you can find it later.Is there an index component to this as well? Or do you have to just rifle through your slips? How would you know by the ID whether it's the thing you need, you'd almost need some organizing structure where you would say things about this are these numbers and things about that, or something. Tell me about that.EG: You have different types of notes in your Zettelkasten. The main part of the Zettelkasten are so-called permanent notes. Let me say there's a phrase to call them atomic notes because on one Zettel, there's only one idea. There's not an article or a story. One idea. Okay. And there are other types of notes. For example, structure notes and structure notes says, okay, that's my topic. That's about—MR: Gardening. Let's say.EG: It's about gardening. On this structure notes, you say in gardening, you need tools plants and whatever, soil and you put a list of important stuff for gardening. What are the 10 most important tools for gardening? Put it on this paper. And link it with a note card you already have in your Zettelkasten.MR: Got it. There is some manual, identification and crosslinking and such that you would do. That makes sense.EG: In book writing, it's an index. This structure notes are indexes and there are table of content. You have some structures like the structures in a mind map. In outlining of an article, for example, you have some main ideas, some sub ideas, and so. These structures are on special cards, but on the structure notes, they are only structure information, no content. The ideas are on separate permanent notes, and you have the structure notes.MR: In the physical box of cards, box of slips, I would assume, maybe in the back is where all the content notes are or the idea notes. And maybe in the front is where the indexes and structure notes live. You would maybe first go to the front part of the box to look for topics and say, "Okay, I need card number, this, and card number that and this."And based on that, then you'd go in the back and pull those because they would be in some order, then you could pull 'em all out and then lay them out and do what you will, and then return it all back to the box, assuming you didn't add some notes. If you added notes, then those would go in. Indexes would be updated and the new slips would be put maybe in the back, I suppose.EG: Yeah. These are the main types of notes. How to create the note, if I'm reading a book and I'm note-taking, I use my Zettels, and if there's important information on page 56, I put my idea with this important idea from the book on the literature note card. Literature note card only means it's the content I read in the book with my own words. It has an unique identifier, and with a digital tool, it would be a title.You don't need these numbers anymore. From a hindsight, you have to order and to sort them ad you have no search function. Today, you only have the title, you have the content in your own words, and you have a link to the source. Literature note—MR: Easily do with these tools that exist now, right? Linking is easier.EG: Yes, the only must with the literature note is to have a backlink to the source itself.MR: The book itself and the page number itself.EG: The book also to the author. And the literature note is not a permanent note. Maybe on the same day or little bit later, you will take you a literature note, look at it and say, "Okay, are there any connections in my mind, which may be important?"Maybe it's a phrase from your book, Mike to focus attention in your sketch note. And you said, okay, there's a connection to attention, and there are a lot of note cards, they are connected to attention. You put this on your—if you are started to link your literature note with other already existing permanent notes, then you transform this literature note to a permanent note. And the literature note vanish.MR: Doesn't need to be kept yet.EG: Yeah. With a linking to other notes, you have two possibilities. One is the link, like a hyperlink in the internet and the other possibility to link to other concepts, ideas, or whatever is tagging as you do it in Instagram, in Twitter, and—.MR: The hashtag.EG: —whatever. It's all the stuff we already know, but did it on paper. We are really lucky to have the computers and you have modern tools for this idea of note-taking. My favorite tool is called Obsidian. It's one of the favorite tools from a lot of writers. Starting with a steep curve in, if you ask at Google trends about Obsidian, it's a very slow line and rising high in the last month or years.It's a really great community. It's a little bit this sharing style, like the sketch noters. If you are in an Obsidian community with other guys using this tool and using the Zettelkasten method, and you ask a question, you are sure there's an answer within a few minutes. They really help each other. What is behind as I said to you in the beginning using sketchnoting seems to be easy, but you need a lot of experience.MR: It's a learning curve. Yeah, for sure.EG: It's not so steep learning curve. The same is with notetaking. It seems to be easy, as I told you, only a few types of notes. Use it on paper or use it on the PC with Obsidian tool, but it's really learning, learning, learning. In my professional life, most part, I need a lot of time in my business for note taking, with sketch notes without sketch notes.What, for me, was fascinating. If you have a note card, you can draw on it. There's no need. Like Niklas Luhmann, I think he wasn't a visual thinker. I do not know him personally, but only writing text or note cards. He couldn't have read your book in this time.MR: Yeah. Yeah.EG: There was no drawing at all. Unbelievable. But today, I think use a note card, put your drawings on it, and you have a mixture of sketch noting and note-taking with a Zettelkasten method integrated in the Obsidian tool.MR: Tell us a little bit how you do that, because that's the part where—I've got a text editing tool. I use Ulysses for writing. It can do some linking, but it's not optimized like Obsidian is, which I've considered, but for now, it's been great for writing. I use folders and structures.It also does tagging, so I could do some of it, but I'm really curious to see like bringing in the visuals into Obsidian. I would guess that you could attach images. You could do a drawing, take a photo and attach it to one of these cards and then use your linking and tagging to make sense of how it fits in the greater whole. Talk to us a little bit about how you make that work.EG: It's a little bit like linking a drawing to a note card. It's like building a webpage, there's the written stuff, and then there's a link to a jpeg or PNG or whatever file. For me, that's the same for drawing. I typically us my iPad with the Concepts app. I can export it in this—MR: It's an image.EG: Yeah. It's an image at the special formats. Then they are linked in the Zettelkasten tool. I can reuse. Also, it's only a link to the image. There's one place, they are all images. It's big box with thousands of images. And there's one link to one note. If I use the same image in another note, there's only a link to this image.MR: One link. Got it.EG: One link and one—you say you have a tool using folders.MR: Right.EG: I was trained my whole life working with folders. I'm not sure if it's a German invention to put all stuff in folders. I had these folders before the PC was invented. In the living room, wherever you look, there were folders with different Zettels here. And it was a nice feeling putting all the stuff in the folders. It looks pretty. When I had the idea, coming back to an idea, which was the right folder, where did I put it in? and I lost a lot of time my life for searching.MR: Searching for things.EG: The most confusing thing was this folder structure with sub-folders and sub-sub-folders. It was this tree-like structure, and you never which branch and which leaf and couldn't find it. What was really hard for me, learning the Zettelkasten method there, I would say no folders. All these permanent notes are in one folder. That's a crazy feeling. If you do it at the beginning and you'll say, okay are there the right links? Do I have a link to the source? Do I have a link to the author?And then you put it in this box, in this permanent note box, and it vanishes, and it's gone. From your life, you have no experience, is there a chance to get it back? Although I knew it's easy to get it back. There's a perfect search function, full text searching in this tool. You can look at the links. You have a craft view. You have a crafted representation of this network. You can filter this craft view, and it's really easy with all these tools coming back to an idea. But using folders the whole life—MR: It's very comfortingEG: It's a brainwash to put something in this black hole.MR: Like putting it in the sea.EG: I will never get it back.MR: Interesting. Well, I suppose, if I were to think of the one thing that's close to folders in this method would be tagging. You could have multiple tags. In a way, you're marking it in a folder, but it can be in more than one folder. That's the beauty of tagging where with a folder, there's only one, and if you can't find that folder, it's lost.I guess now with tools like Ulysses as an example, I can do searches and find things. Ideally, and probably the way I would go about it is probably use tagging to start tagging. Then I guess the challenge around tagging that I've seen in my lifetime is being consistent with tagging. Because maybe one tag is icon and then you accidentally say icons and now you have two tags.So, forming a manageable set of tags is probably a challenge because if the tags get out of control, then you could potentially have more processing stuff. You probably have to be disciplined about tagging, I suppose. To have a pretty structured tagging organization otherwise could get outta control, just like folders could.EG: It's really important point you talked about, this tagging and what you need at most at the beginning of working with a Zettelkasten, to have some kind of architecture for your text. What is important, what needs to be tagged in which way and not to have an idea of all the text from A to Z, but you have this taking architecture.For example, I have texts about hashtag type. And in Obsidian you have not only one level of tagging, but two levels of tagging. You can say hashtag type slash note slash sketchnote.MR: So, modify in a way.EG: Slash book. It's not about the content of the note, but it's more a little bit like metadata. If you come back, for example, oh I'm not sure what it was, but it was from a book, and then I could use this hashtag-type book. And then I have a list of books, and then I say, okay, but only the last two weeks. Then the list is very short and say, "Okay, that it was."You can find things and have no—you wouldn't be able to have a prompt, a search phrase. In Google, for example, you need some phrases to find the stuff. With your tagging architecture, you can search for stuff where you have forgotten the phrase.MR: So, probably tags for someone who, like you and me, have been trained to use folders for our whole lives, and that's a comfort for us. Probably the bridging mechanism to Zettelkasten might be tagging and then linking as well. Because in a way, tagging becomes like your representation of what the folder means. It's a metadata. It's the thing that defines the category.EG: In my architecture, I have for example, this taking of types, and as a process engineer, one of my jobs in the past, there was input, computation, and output. Then I have the tech input, and I can say it's from the internet, it's from the book, it's from YouTube. Sometimes, I only have an idea where it comes from. And other texts are about output to say, okay, I put it to Twitter, to LinkedIn, to Instagram or whatever. That's not about the content of the note, but only where it comes from, where it goes to.In this architecture, there several metadata sets I can extend at the end. The list of output, it's infinity to extend it, but this main structure it's very important to have it at the beginning, but when you have hundreds or thousands of notes and you have to change all this text, it's not so much fun.In Obsidian, there's a plugin. There's a plugin, if you say icon or icons, you can say, please change all text icons to icon, and that's makes it easy.MR: Yeah. Interesting. Is there so you think the Sonke Ahren's book is a good place for someone to start who's maybe interested. Are there other resources you might recommend? Are there classes or YouTube videos or something that might be helpful to get people started on this? Secondarily, once they've established the base, is that a Zettelkasten structure then is there reference for how to integrate visuals into it?Because it sounds like a lot of what I've seen is more text oriented, like linking and writing and so forth, it's all text, and there's not so much emphasis on integrating images. I think for sketch and visual thinkers, having that additional information would be useful. In addition, like once you set up the structure, then how do we integrate images into it would be helpful.Some of the things you've hinted at like there's a big folder that has all the images in it, and then you just link to it. And I suppose that's part of the whole box, right? So, you have one folder that's got all the text and it's all linked together, and then one box with images or something, and then you link them together.EG: I have one folder. The folder is called visuals. They're all my images. I have a folder, as I said, a permanent notes. They're all this permanent notes stuff. Other stuff, for example, I collect a lot of PDF files. Maybe I have books in PDF format or table of content from a book I have on paper in PDF, and all this stuff of value in my assets folder and I can link them easily.MR: All between each other.EG: Some of the sketch notes I have in PDF formats from others.MR: I see.EG: Assets for example, are the sketch notes from others I collected as an example, as a source of inspiration. In the visuals, I have these drawings from myself. As Niklas Luhmann did writing it down with your own words, it's drawing with your own pencil.MR: Yeah, same thing. Just a visual interpretation.EG: There's no difference. Therefore, the only difficulty with this book of Sonke Ahren, believe me, there are no pictures.MR: Yeah. Exactly.EG: Most of the sketch noters can draw, and therefore, it should be possible.MR: Now, I know that you offer, as part of your show notes that you pre-sent to me, there's something about an e-book. Is the e-book address using Zettelkasten for visuals and sketch notes? Is that what the book is about?EG: Yes. My idea was using the Mike Rohde book and using the book from Sonke Ahrens, put it together, but not to repeat it. But to say, what does it mean if you put it together? I give a lot of hints and advices how to structure the folders, how to use the architecture for the tagging.MR: That sounds like exactly—EG: That's more important. If it's more, oh, sketchnoting, then there's a link maybe to your book or maybe a link to a YouTube video. All the details are links to the internet, to some Zettelkasten videos or to sketchnote videos, or other material. And it's one overview. It's a book, would say a structure note with a lot of sketch notes and with links to all this stuff you need to put together.MR: Got it.EG: It's a book full of references.MR: So basically, if someone is listening to this and getting excited about the idea of, say, picking up Obsidian, which by the way is free for personal use, sets up Zettelkasten so that they can manage their sketch notes. That this would be the next step would be to get the book that you've created in order to structure it and start working with it and integrating it. Would that be the right way to think about it?EG: And the idea of my book is not writing it and publishing it in two or three years. I'm fascinated from this idea learning in public and publishing all the stuff. If I'm sitting here at the weekend writing a chapter in this book, then it's published in a pre-published version. I published already 15 versions. Most, it's one more chapter, some more links, and so on. It's growing and growing. What is really nice, the sketch noters and the Zettelkasten community, they all help me writing this book.MR: Oh, great.EG: I don't understand this sketch note. What do you mean with a sentence? I got feedback and okay, it's not printed this book. It's a PDF. It's on GitHub. It's freely available and all this feedback, there's an update and I can improve it. I earned my money as an IT engineer with HR projects. And we put running software to a customer a few days after he agreed with us the contract, and we were improving and improving. Today, it's possible also with books.MR: It's a mindset. It's a living book in a lot of ways. It's almost like software documentation, right? As you build the tool, like pieces are removed and replaced or depreciated, or things or features are added. In software, you have to document this stuff so that it's tracked, and you can go back in time and look at the old version and see, oh, that's right. We had that feature, and because of this and that, we removed it. It's no longer in the documentation.I suppose, in this case, you're doing more adding, but I suspect at some point maybe something would disappear or whatever, and you might have to replace it or something. Like a link, say somebody website in five years goes away, you might have to find a new link to that or something.EG: With Zettelkasten, I started in March '22, with your even bright workshop.MR: That's funny.EG: And then I started writing the book because the idea is not to take notes and to put all these Zettels, as I said in this box. It's a black hole. What do you need? That's very important for all who want to start with the Zettelkasten. You need the goal. What do you want to do with all these ideas in this box?MR: Right. How's it gonna be applied?EG: That's not the final destination. That's an asset. As a proof of concept, I have to write a book. Otherwise, all these ideas would vanish in this Zettelkasten box. And they're beautifully linked, nicely teched, but it doesn't make any sense. What I found in the internet, I think nearly as great as the sketch noting book from Mike Rohde, as great as Sonke Ahrens Zettelkasten it's about "Writing Useful Books." It's from Rob Fitzpatrick. You see, it's full of highlighted text, every page full of nuggets.Yes, yes, yes, the idea that non-fiction books are problem-solving books. You need to know the problems of your potential readers and to show them on the first page, which problem are you looking at, and how you can help them. And if you read the table of contents, there are a lot of promises from the author, how he could help you to solve your problem. And then, this as very short in writing, as you see, it's a small book.MR: Yeah. It's quite thin.EG: Quite thin, but full of value. Other books 500, 600 pages. I stopped in the middle of the book. I had no time in life to read it to the end. And that's the third book in my project, using the contents here of these right useful books to get the Zettels out of the Zettelkasten to create project notes, to create consistent chapters and sub-chapters, and to deliver result from all this syncing behind.MR: I think the other challenge too, that it's important to have a purpose would be if you just did the Zettlekasten just to do it without a purpose in mind, it would just go into an ocean. I think eventually your motivation to maintain it because it takes work to do the linking and all this, even if you get into a rhythm, it takes work. Just like sketchnoting, it takes more work to do sketch notes 'cause you have to really think about it and you're analyzing. So, it takes effort.Unless you have a purpose for it, eventually you're gonna, "Uh, I don't want to put a link, I'm tired, I don't wanna write a link, or I don't wanna do a tag." Then the next thing you know, then you're not adding thing. You know what I mean? It's like, would degrade ‘cause you didn't have a purpose for it.By having a purpose, like in your case, writing a book, it meant that you had something that you were doing. And now everything that goes into your Zettelkasten is likely for future additions of the book, or maybe now some new project that the Zettelkasten serves a purpose for, I would guess.EG: As a process engineer, in my Zettelkasten, I measure the input, I measure the output, I can measure the productivity, the relation between output and input, and I can see is it working. Is the process working? Are there some bottlenecks in the Zettelkasten? What takes the most of my valuable time? Is there connection between the idea at the input to the book at the output? Is it a little bit complicated or is it directly connected? How long does it take to get one idea in and one idea out? If I take this book, it's from 2012. If I would use one concept to improve my output, that 10 years between your idea, your shared to my idea, I shared.MR: The application.EG: Yes. And my idea is to shorten it a little bit. Reading a book, reading another book, connected and having an output and an output of value to solve a problem of my readers. That's more than note taking.MR: It's another level up.EG: It's a philosophy that connects really the organizational part with the Zettelkasten, the visual part with the sketch notes and the value part from "Creating Useful Books" from Rob Fitzpatrick.MR: Overlap of three things.EG: Combining three things and say, okay. That's for me, it makes sense. It's not only a machine, I'm focused on the wheels, didn't have a look at the motor, but I want tto build this car, and it's really working. You can use it.MR: Well, this is great. Thank you, Edmund. And you know, if you've been listening to this discussion, you're getting ideas in the end of the show, of course, have contact information for Edmund so you can reach out directly, but we'll also have links to his book and the other books that he's mentioned so you can do your own work and download obsidian and those kind of things, and try it out. I think this has been very helpful. I'm hoping that it will inspire some people to maybe organize their sketch notes using this method. That would be great.EG: I hope it solves one or another problem from all these guys taking notes their whole life, being a student, being a professional. And so, take their notes, but having ideas to improve this process. Taking sketch notes, not only the written stuff. Remember the old stuff, finding back to old ideas, combining with news, and having the chance to give the ideas a chance. They can meet in a Zettelkasten although they came from very different sources.MR: Right. The opportunities are pretty great there. Well, this has been interesting. Let's shift a little bit now. We'll talk a little bit about tools now. Let's start with analog tools and then we'll talk about digital tools. You've hinted at some of these things already, but let's go more in detail. Starting with analogEG: I already mentioned it I only used this Neuland and the reasons I gave you.MR: They're all there.EG: The only Markers, they really work in a professional context. That are my fine liners on paper. Is it?MR: Yeah. The little guys. Yes. Staedtler,EG: It's Staedtler. I think it's from Germany, but it's a way. The Neuland markers they also sell the Staedtler stuff.MR: Yes.EG: It's the same is only a branded Neuland on it. But it's the same. Perfect quality for me. That was my life before I got an iPad.MR: Tell us about how the iPad changed you. You mentioned that you've made a shift from one application to another. I'd love to hear not only what those two tools were, but then the rationale for switching and what led you to the new tool that you're using now.EG: With my iPad, I looked at the internet and to all the sketch notes and they told me there's only one tool you can use, it's Procreate. I had a lot of experience with Photoshop in the past, and it was not so difficult to understand how to use the Procreate tool. But I struggled a little bit with my canvas. Is it designed for a letter format or for a large poster? It is pixel-based the Procreate and enlarging your drawing means there is all this—MR: The jackety edges.EG: Yeah. It's not so nice. The Procreate, if you say, okay, I'm not sure which format is the best, I plan for the highest resolution and can reduce it if I need. But then the fights were getting bigger and bigger. With a Concept app, it's a vector-based format. I can resize as I like it. At the beginning, at the end, and the canvas is infinite. If there's not enough place, there's place for an extra drawing and I put it together.What I learned is, it's very easy to handle an object library in the Concepts app. Most of my life, I was working with PowerPoint. PowerPoint means use it as a tool putting different visual objects together. This PowerPoint style of working I can use with a Concepts app. If I drawing a house or a special icon, some eggs are very easy, a square or triangle. I can put it on the surface as well.But if it's a little bit more complicated, a stopwatch or so with some details, it costs me a few minutes to do it well. Then I can go to the library, put it together, and it's all my shape. It looks like freshly drawn from Edmund. It's not a library I bought.MR: You made it yourself.EG: I can say from Microsoft. I would say, okay, there are a lot of visuals, but they are not from me. And it makes it very personal to use my own icons, my own drawings. What I have to learn is to write my name with nice letters. And that's not so easy, it takes me most of the time to learn this architect's handwriting.It's all in Concepts. It's now not so difficult to, produce nicely looking stuff. Not only for me but also for others. Also, I'm not an illustrator. I'm not a professional artist. And graceful enough, that was the phrase I got from Mauro Toselli.He said, "The sketch notes must be graceful enough, not more." There's no need for, but if they're really ugly, someone would say, okay, it's hard to read. I do not really understand. Is it a horse or a dog or so? It must be graceful enough. That's possible very easily with pre-drawn objects I use most times.MR: Interesting.EG: Therefore, if you say there's a better tool, okay, I will have a look at it, but at the moment, I'm pretty happy with my Concepts app.MR: That's good. That's good. We'd like to hear that. It's always about finding what fits the way you work. Some people, Procreate just works the way they like to, and they don't have these challenges of sizing in vectors, and it works fine for them, which is great. But if you have other needs, it's great that there are other software out there that can do what you need to do. It's important that we have variety, and we definitely. We are very lucky that the iPad has lots of options available to us.EG: It's the same iPad, it's the same pencil, and everyone can use the tool which fits to his own personal styles.MR: Yeah, I still use the app Paper, by WeTransfer, which hasn't really changed too much, but I've become pretty fluent with it, so I can work really quickly. If I do illustrations, I have to move to another tool like Procreate or Concepts. But for really super quick ideas, for me, it's just really efficient.I've learned that in my career when I'm faced with a heavy deadline, it's wise for me to choose a tool that I'm fluent in because I'm speedier in that tool than if I tried the perfect tool for it, but I don't have familiarity with it yet. That's a lesson I've learnedEG: As I learned in my profession, whatever tool you are using, you have to use it really professionally, and you have—it's not only starting with the tool and being very fluent or very efficient, you must know your tool very well.MR: Yes. Yep. Well, that's great to hear. Really simple tool set both on the analog and digital side. Let's shift a little bit more, and let's talk about your tips. The three tips that you might share. I always frame this, imagine someone's listening, they are visual thinker, whatever that means to them. And they're excited about the space, just like we talked about our excitement about the community, but maybe they've hit a plateau or they just feel they need a little bit of inspiration. What would be three things that Edmund would tell them to kind of encourage them and break them out of maybe being stuck?EG: Starting with sketch notes, that was always the question, how to find a personal motivation going on improving your skills. One of the motivation as I showed you are books. I love it to learn from books. But what is even better learning from other people? With my company where there's self-organized learning groups, we're growing up. I learned this self-organized learning groups are the best to improve yourself.One of your podcasts Mike, there's a team about LernOS. They had a 12-week journey, different stuff. There's also a learning journey for sketch notes, and you have self-organized meetings every week and having a Zoom meeting or so, sharing my report or whatever.It's little bit like there are some examples, some exercises you can do together, but you can do as a homework for the next meeting. That's the way I like to learn. It's better than sitting with a blank sheet of paper at home and reading the book and—MR: Struggling. Yeah.EG: Struggling.MR: That, by the way was for those listening is season eight was an episode with Karl Damke and Raffaelina Rossetti.EG: Rossetti. Raffaelina Rossetti is her name. Yeah.MR: You can learn about that movement there in the podcast.EG: There's a link to the internet also where the Sketchnoting Guide is, and so, and it's amazing stuff. Getting the right people for the sketchnoting Circle. That's my next advice. Typically, they are distributed around the world. That's not your neighbor, the sketch noter, or the other neighbor on the other side of the street. They're somewhere in this internet universe.Some years ago, I found this Sketchnote Army Slack platform you established, Mike. And there's one folder with announcement of LernOS sketchnoting groups, and that's sub organized to find others. They're interested to have on Friday afternoon five o'clock or so, the next 12-week we want to join this sketch noting journey. And they're from different countries, different professions, different skills in drawing that's not only the beginners or the specialists. It's like these schools and former times they are the small and the older, the grownup children, and they help each other.MR: The one-room schoolhouse, we would say in the United States. Back in the days.EG: This one-room schoolhouse you have in the Slack rooms. You find all these people and it's this mindset sharing things, learning together, and so, you would never find them in real life.MR: Yeah. That's two points. That's number two.EG: Two points. The last one, I want to repeat, Zettelkasten is my second brain. Zettelkasten it's also your second brain. You have a lot of experience in note-taking, different tools, but looking at this concept to get a step higher in efficiency, in effective note taking, and making things easier than they are.MR: Great. Well, those are three great tips. Thanks so much for sharing those. And definitely, encourage you to do all those things, both the LernOS and explore Zettelkasten. So Edmund, what's the best way for people to reach out if they have questions about Zettelkasten and sketchnoting or something else, what's the best place to go?EG: Mike, you said you are sharing some links about me.MR: Yes. We'll definitely share links.EG: It's very easy because I look at my posts nearly every day in LinkedIn. In Instagram, you'll see some of the sketch notes, the newer ones. Most of them are sketch notes before they are published in the ebook. On Twitter, there's a chance for communication very fast. Is it one year ago, Mike we had this discussion about sketch note manifesto?MR: Yes. That's been around. I think Mauro has been talking about this for years.EG: Yes. That was an idea from him and I mixed it a little bit up with atrial development. Then we had a discussion about it. That's the style of communicating and Twitter. And yeah. I also have this in your link list a Linktree. Yeah. All the other stuff are from Masterton or from the forums about Zettelkasten. There's a Zettelkasten forum and Obsidian forum. Also, there are new ideas I discussed with others, and they also get the feedback. I'm learning with all these guys.MR: I'll look on the Link tree. You have several links here, LinkedIn, Instagram, medium, Pinterest, Masterdom, and on Twitter, and eBook.EG: On all platforms, there are links to the GitHub platform. There's the PDF file of the actual version of this e-book, "How to Take Useful Notes."MR: Yeah, I see it here. We've got links for all these things, everyone. So we'll put 'em in the show notes so you can see and jump and look at all these things that Edmund has been talking about. Especially, if you really want to get into this Zettelkasten with Obsidian and using your sketch notes, making a way to organize 'em.I'm inspired, I'm gonna do some looking at this because I think there's an opportunity for me to level up, like all the work I've done and make some sense of it. It might be interesting to see, looking back over it what connections there are. Maybe it's a big job though, Edmund. I don't know. That could be a lifetime just organizing all this junk I've made.EG: I will tell you the story. Maybe I published the story about the new situation before Mike Rohde's podcast and afterwards. Or is it worth a sketch note to say, that was my life before and that was the life after?MR: Yeah. Well, as a process engineer, you're gonna wanna know what's the input, which is doing the podcast. And the output is, are you suddenly getting more downloads of your book? And questions about doing Zettelkasting with sketch notes. That would be ideal because you're a pioneer in this space. I think Chris Wilson is another person in the space that's explored, we talked about in his interview, he was starting to play with Obsidian.EG: I listened to this podcast from him. It was the first time I saw some sketch noter using the Zettelkasten.MR: You two need to get together and do a workshop for everybody, so you can sort of walk them through. That could be interestingEG: If you know a female sketch noter from Denmark, Ingrid LiLL.MR: Oh yeah, of course. Yeah.EG: He is also starting with the Zettelkasten.MR: Oh, there you go. Now you have three people to your merry band, so you can maybe do some kind of a teaching.EG: It's a very small community.MR: That's okay. Sketchnoting community is small, but getting bigger every day. So you have to start somewhere, Edmund, you have to start somewhere.EG: It's the 1% of the sketch noters using Zettelkasten.MR: Yeah, exactly. That's okay. If it works for you, then you can do itEG: All things I believe ever starting small.MR: Yes. The best things start small. Well, Edmund—go ahead.EG: No, no.MR: I was just gonna say thank you so much for your participation. I see you on LinkedIn and Instagram and Twitter. You're always so kind and you have such kind words, and I just love that. You could have easily retired and just gone to Majorca and like, just enjoyed your life and not done any of this work, but yet you choose curiosity and sharing and giving, and I really appreciate that and I admire that. So, thank you for giving back to the community and making it a better place. That's so much what we need.EG: Thank you for having me.MR: You're so welcome.EG: It was really fun. Also, the story in the beginning you told before the podcast, it was a wonderful evening.MR: Yeah. I told him my German experiences that made me fall in love with Germans and Germany. Maybe I'll tell that story sometime. Well, everyone, this has been another episode of "The Sketchnote Army Podcast." So until the next episode, we will talk to you soon.EG: Thank you. Have a nice evening. Bye-bye, Mikey.MR: See ya.
Mon, 24 Apr 2023 03:00:00 +0000 https://was-lernst-du.podigee.io/16-new-episode ca50128cfa3a1dbc7d05c53e5b95847e In dieser Ausgabe des Formats „Wie lernst Du?“ ist Vasiliki Mitropoulou bei mir zu Gast. Vasiliki ist Grafikdesignerin, Illustratorin und Autorin des Buchs „Let's sketch: Lernen mit Sketchnotes“. Damit ist sie prädestiniert, uns in dieser Folge näherzubringen, wie man mit Sketchnotes lernen kann. Die Folge ist für jede:n interessant, der/die sich für Sketchnoting als Methode spannend findet, niederschwellig in das Thema einsteigen und viele praktische Tipps vom Profi mitnehmen möchte. Auf LinkedIn findet ihr Vasiliki hier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vasiliki-mitropoulou-0325b7123/ Und ihre Website hier: https://www.markundmieze.de/ full no Was lernst Du
Mike Rohde is the creator of Sketchnotes, a method of note-taking that uses a combination of handwriting, drawings, hand-lettering, shapes, and visual elements like arrows, boxes, and lines. The focus is on capturing ideas, not art, and you don't need any special drawing ability to do it. In fact, Mike has been known to issue “permission to suck at drawing” certificates, encouraging people to practice and develop at their own pace.He's a designer, author, teacher, podcaster and illustrator with a passion for not only visualizing ideas, but for teaching people how to think visually and be more creative. He's fostered a community of enthusiastic sketchnoters, known as The Sketchnote Army, who support and encourage each other online and at in-person events.Mike's bestselling book that introduced his technique to the world, The Sketchnote Handbook, just celebrated its ten year publication anniversary and it's more popular than ever! His follow-up, The Sketchnote Workbook, shows how you can use sketchnotes in your everyday life to capture ideas, plan projects, document processes, and capture memorable experiences.On this episode, host Angela de Burger chats with Mike about how he developed his sketchnoting approach for note-taking, the benefit of adding constraints to his process, why the approach is about capturing ideas, not art, and how he fostered the development of a global community of sketchnoters. Say hi to Mike: Website - rohdesign.com Instagram - @rohdesign Twitter - @rohdesign Mastodon - @rohdesign Sketchnote Army website - sketchnotearmy.com Sketchnote Army podcast - sketchnotearmy.com/podcast ----Creative Pulse Podcast socials: Instagram: creativepulsepodcast Twitter @CreativePulseTWMusic credit: https://www.purple-planet.com
Rieke Strehl ist Studienrätin für Mathe und Chemie und unterrichtet an einer beruflichen Schule in Hessen. Sie ist mit Leidenschaft Lehrerin, Vorreiterin beim digitalen Lernen und auf den wichtigsten Social-Media-Kanälen mit ihrem eigenen Channel als MC Strehl aktiv. Ob mit Erklärvideos auf Youtube, Sketchnotes für den Mathe-Unterricht, als AppleTeacher oder mit der Methode des „flipped classroom“ – Rieke Strehl unterrichtet mit Leidenschaft und immer auf Augenhöhe mit ihren Schülerinnen und Schülern, um diese bestmöglich in die „neue Welt“ zu entlassen. Get in Touch mit Rieke: https://www.mcstrehl.de Get in Touch mit mir: https://danieljung.io #Bildung #Schule
Zu dieser Frage fachsimple ich in dieser Folge mit Simone Abelmann. Simone hat einen roten Faden – und der besteht darin, dass sie es liebt, Dinge zu erschaffen. Mit "Funny Sketchnotes" zeigt sie, dass Zeichnen ganz leicht gehen kann und dass Sketchnotes ein riesiger Spaß für groß und klein sind und privat wie geschäftlich ihren Einsatz finden können. Sie hat nicht nur jede Menge Kurse dazu erstellt, sondern auch zwei Mitgliederbereiche, die Funny Sketchnotes World und den Funny Sketchnotes Digi-Club gegründet. Inzwischen stemmt sie das nicht mehr alleine, Simones Team ist mittlerweile sechs Frauen und einen Mann stark. Was Simone vorher alles gemacht hat und welchen Weg sie gegangen ist, bis sie bei den Funny Sketchnotes gelandet ist, das erfährst Du in dieser Folge. Shownotes Wenn Du Lust hast, mit Simone zeichnen zu lernen, dann melde Dich doch zur kostenlosen "Ich kann zeichnen"-Challenge an https://marketing-zauber.de/ichkannzeichnenchallenge [Werbelink – für die Challenge bezahlst Du aber nix!] Simone hat auch ein Buch veröffentlicht, ein Workbook namens "Dein Sketchnote Start", das auch als E‑Book erhältlich ist: https://shop.simoneabelmann.com/products/dein-sketchnotes-start-workbook https://shop.simoneabelmann.com/products/dein-sketchnotes-start-ebook Wenn Du Dich bei Deiner Umpositionierung von mir unterstützen lassen möchtest, dann lass uns miteinander reden! Gemeinsam schauen wir dann, ob und wie ich Dich unterstützen kann. Natürlich kostet Dich dieser Termin nichts!
Over ten years ago, we had Mike Rohde as our first ever guest on the podcast. He is back with Brad this week to discuss all things Sketchnote, and the awesomeness that has transpired over the last decade.
Over ten years ago, we had Mike Rohde as our first ever guest on the podcast. He is back with Brad this week to discuss all things Sketchnote, and the awesomeness that has transpired over the last decade.
Der Portfolio-Podcast | Kreativ erfolgreich in Illustration und Design
In dieser Podcast-Folge geht es um Akquise und wie diese leicht wird. Dazu stelle ich dir das Modell deiner kreativen Seele mit seinen kreativen Identitäten vor, das ich in meinem Buch »Die gute Mappe« (d.punkt, 2021) entwickelt habe. Denn es ist recht wahrscheinlich, dass du mehrere KIDs (Kreative Identitäten) hast. Du bist vielleicht Illustrator*in und arbeitest sowohl im Bereich Jugendbuch, aber eben auch im Sachbuch. Oder du entwickelst Marken, aber hast auch ein großes Faible für Sketchnotes ... oder Lettering ... oder Siebdruck ... oder Mausezeichnungen. Das Modell der kreativen Seele mit seinen kreativen Identitäten hilft dir dabei, besser zu verstehen, warum du kreativ tätig bist, was dich motiviert und wie du deine verschiedenen Kompetenzen bestmöglich für dich nutzt. Und außerdem kannst du heute auch ein Buch »Die gute Mappe« gewinnen. Mehr dazu in den Shownotes und ab Minute 14 :-)
Arnaud et Guillaume reviennent sur les news de ce mois avec évidement la sortie de Java 19 mais aussi GraalVM, Puppet (toujours vivant), Docker Compose et Desktop, VirtualBox, WASMTime et d'autres sujets plus orientés méthodologie comme la réalisation de Sketchnotes, les DO / DONT pour faire des messages d'erreurs dans les UIs ou encore quelques pratiques de management chez Google. Enregistré le 21 octobre 2022 Téléchargement de l'épisode LesCastCodeurs-Episode–287.mp3 News Langages La version 19 de Java est sortie https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/jdk-dev/2022-September/006933.html Au menu: 405: Record Patterns (Preview) 422: Linux/RISC-V Port 424: Foreign Function & Memory API (Preview) 425: Virtual Threads (Preview) 426: Vector API (Fourth Incubator) 427: Pattern Matching for switch (Third Preview) 428: Structured Concurrency (Incubator) La vue de InfoQ https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/09/java19-released/ Foojay couvre 5 fonctionnalités clé https://foojay.io/today/the–5-most-pivotal-and-innovative-additions-to-openjdk–19/ virtual threads structured concurrency pattern matching for switch foreign function and memory API record pattern matching Proposition dans Leyden des condenseurs et du décalage d'exécution dans le temps https://openjdk.org/projects/leyden/notes/02-shift-and-constrain GraalVM JIT et Native Image rejoignent le projet OpenJDK https://twitter.com/graalvm/status/1582441450796900354 Google rejoint Adoptium et va utiliser la distribution Temurin pour les JDKs utilisés dans ses produits https://blog.adoptium.net/2022/10/adoptium-welcomes-google/ “Paving the on-ramp” : Brian Goetz discute de changements au langage Java pour faciliter l'apprentissage pour les nouveaux arrivants https://openjdk.org/projects/amber/design-notes/on-ramp Librairies Spring Boot 3.0.0 RC1 is out https://spring.io/blog/2022/10/20/spring-boot–3–0–0-rc1-available-now Vous pouvez maintenant convertir vos applications Spring Boot en exécutables natifs en utilisant les plugins standard Spring Boot Maven ou Gradle sans avoir besoin d'une configuration spéciale. 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Pas besoin d'être un artiste ! A quoi ça sert ? pour soi même pour s'approprier de l'information, synthétiser ce que l'on apprends, mais aussi pour partager avec les autres On peut faire des sketchnotes pour tout et n'importe quoi ! Amélie décrit ensuite les bases, avec les pictogrammes, le texte, les puces, les flèches, comment créer des conteneurs (pour des titres par exemple), comment rendre un sketchnote plus joli et comment hiérarchiser le contenu Enfin, quelques ressources utiles, en particulier les livres de Mike Rohde qui est l'inventeur du concept Nouvelle UI pour Maven Central search https://central.sonatype.dev/ maven-test-profiler: Maven extension pour trouver les tests les plus lents https://t.co/d5YpXODWf8 Architecture Netflix construit un système de queue basse latence et haut volume à partir de composants open source https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/10/netflix-timestone-priority-queue/ Méthodologies Google a publié un ensemble de pratiques, d'outils et d'articles pour les managers https://rework.withgoogle.com/guides/ Sécurité CVE dans Kafka - un client non authentifié peut faire un OOME dans le broker https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-c9h3-c6qj-hh7q Signal retire le support des SMS sur Android https://t.co/u9XZ7XM7rT Conférences Codeurs en Seine 2022 - Programme et Inscriptions Ca y est le programme est disponible et les inscriptions sont ouvertes. les inscriptions (c'est gratuit et c'est à Rouen le 17 novembre) : https://www.codeursenseine.com/2022/inscription le magnifique programme est la : https://www.codeursenseine.com/2022/programme La liste des conférences provenant de Developers Conferences Agenda/List par Aurélie Vache et contributeurs : 3–4 novembre 2022 : Agile Tour Nantes 2022 - Nantes (France) 8–9 novembre 2022 : Open Source Experience - Paris (France) 15–16 novembre 2022 : Agile Tour Toulouse - Toulouse (France) 17 novembre 2022 : Codeurs en Seine - Rouen (France) 17 novembre 2022 : lbc² by leboncoin - Paris (France) 18 novembre 2022 : DevFest Strasbourg - Strasbourg (France) 18–19 novembre 2022 : GreHack - Grenoble (France) 19–20 novembre 2022 : Capitole du Libre - Toulouse (France) 23–25 novembre 2022 : Agile Grenoble 2022 - Grenoble (France) 1 décembre 2022 : Devops DDay #7 - Marseille (France) 2 décembre 2022 : BDX I/O - Bordeaux (France) 2 décembre 2022 : DevFest Dijon 2022 - Dijon (France) 14–16 décembre 2022 : API Days Paris - Paris (France) & Online 15–16 décembre 2022 : Agile Tour Rennes - Rennes (France) 19–20 janvier 2023 : Touraine Tech - Tours (France) 25–28 janvier 2023 : SnowCamp - Grenoble (France) 2 février 2023 : Very Tech Trip - Paris (France) 9–11 février 2023 : World AI Cannes - Cannes (France) 7 mars 2023 : Kubernetes Community Days France - Paris (France) 23–24 mars 2023 : SymfonyLive Paris - Paris (France) 12–14 avril 2023 : Devoxx France - Paris (France) Nous contacter Pour réagir à cet épisode, venez discuter sur le groupe Google https://groups.google.com/group/lescastcodeurs Contactez-nous via twitter https://twitter.com/lescastcodeurs Faire un crowdcast ou une crowdquestion Soutenez Les Cast Codeurs sur Patreon https://www.patreon.com/LesCastCodeurs Tous les épisodes et toutes les infos sur https://lescastcodeurs.com/
Wir sprechen mit Elisabeth über Sketchnotes. Sie ist Professorin an der Pädagogischen Hochschule OÖ, dreht leidenschaftlich gerne Pirouetten und ist heute zu Gast beim Edufunk. Ob da Vinci bei Elisabeths Zeichenkünsten vor Neid erblasst, erfährst du in dieser Folge. Tipps aus der Praxis hier im EduFunk. Unsere Social Media Seite: Twitter: https://twitter.com/edufunkDACH Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EduFunkDACH Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/edufunkpodcast/ Webseite: https://www.edufunk.eu EduFunk - der Podcast für die Verrückten, die Mutigen, die etwas anderen Lehrer:innen. Ein deutschsprachiger Podcast rund um Schule, Lehrer:innen, digitalen Unterricht, digitale Medien, Methoden, iPads und Apps. Das Ziel von EduFunk: Lehrer:innen zu inspirieren und ihnen den Mut zu geben, mit Neugier die Möglichkeiten digitaler Medien im Unterricht zu entdecken. Es moderieren Anna Gruber und Christian Löhlein. In diesem Podcast werden Produkte besprochen, daher enthält er Werbung.
It's been an odd time. It's been a time to reflect and review recent events in a few areas of my life and work. I've some new business opportunities I am working on and rethinking how I work and when. Sometimes you just need to change it up, but it's also good to reflect on how I spend my time at work and home to see if being more thoughtful about approaching this could improve anything. I also have a teenager in the house, and trying to help them think about how to improve their behaviour led me to reflect on what has worked well for me and how it might work well for them. I also like to Champion not just essential skills on this podcast for our industry and profession but also approaches and ideas to help us feel better, work better and reach our personal goals as humans. Reflection time is something we all talk about, and there is evidence to support that it can help improve our well-being by allowing us to reflect on thoughts and emotions and the actions we've taken. It can also help us identify areas in which we could improve. So today, I cover reflective thinking and some tips on how it can improve your comms strategy and general well-being. Let's dive in. Liked Listening today? What to do next: Get my FREE roadmap to get more strategic with communication activity in your business. Listen to more episodes, take some training, or download a resource: Find out more here. Hire my expertise Whether that's support with a one-off comms project or an entire strategy for your business, drop me a line if you want to explore this further. You can also work with me 1:1 as a trainer and mentor – emma@henbe.co.uk Work with me closely If you'd like to work with me to develop and implement your communication strategy through 1:1 work, podcasts, workbooks, sharing ideas, and lots of accountability and up-skilling, then email me at emma@henbe.co.uk to register your interest for you or your entire team. Leave me a voicemail on my Speakpipe page I would love to hear your feedback on this episode and thoughts on any topics I could include in future ones too. Links in this episode: Sketchnotes https://www.sketchnotes.co.uk/ OneNote (Microsoft Office needed) MindMap apps (App Store) Bullet Journal https://bulletjournal.com/ Remarkable 2 https://remarkable.com/
For this vault episode, I'm bringing back Sketchnote creator, Mike Rohde. Mike is not just a friend. He is a sketchnoter, designer, illustrator, self-professed techy, author and speaker who is fond of simple yet impactful design solutions. A sample of such is the Daily Plan Bar which he created to make task management more manageable.Our discussion involves the origins of the Daily Plan Bar, how he came up with it, and the other systems he uses to manage his work tasks and his home life. He has been a huge inspiration to me in helping me bridge the gap between written and visual productivity.This is a really fun conversation and I am excited to bring it back to you as a refresher or maybe you'll be listening to it for the first time. Either way, I hope you enjoy!Links Worth Exploring Connect with Mike: Website | Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Flickr Get the The Sketchnote Handbook The Daily Plan Bar See all of Mike's Sketchnote products Check out Sketchnote Workshops here Related Conversation: The Productivityist Podcast: The Staying Power of Sketchnotes with Deborah LeFrank Related Blog Post: Why Paper Works Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page.Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. Click on any of the links below to make that happen.Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | StitcherYou can also click on this link to paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice.Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
For this vault episode, I'm bringing back Sketchnote creator, Mike Rohde. Mike is not just a friend. He is a sketchnoter, designer, illustrator, self-professed techy, author and speaker who is fond of simple yet impactful design solutions. A sample of such is the Daily Plan Bar which he created to make task management more manageable. Our discussion involves the origins of the Daily Plan Bar, how he came up with it, and the other systems he uses to manage his work tasks and his home life. He has been a huge inspiration to me in helping me bridge the gap between written and visual productivity. This is a really fun conversation and I am excited to bring it back to you as a refresher or maybe you'll be listening to it for the first time. Either way, I hope you enjoy! Links Worth Exploring Connect with Mike: Website | Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Flickr Get the The Sketchnote Handbook The Daily Plan Bar See all of Mike's Sketchnote products Check out Sketchnote Workshops here Related Conversation: The Productivityist Podcast: The Staying Power of Sketchnotes with Deborah LeFrank Related Blog Post: Why Paper Works Thanks to all of the sponsors of this episode. You can find all of the sponsors you heard me mention on this episode on our Podcast Sponsors page. Want to support the podcast? Beyond checking out our sponsors, you can subscribe to the show wherever you listen to podcasts. Click on any of the links below to make that happen. Spotify | Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Stitcher You can also click on this link to paste the podcast feed into your podcast app of choice. Thanks again for listening to A Productive Conversation. See you later.
In this episode, Fin and Jane are joined by special guest Dr Hayley Lewis to discuss teacher wellbeing and resilience. Hayley is a chartered psychologist, consultant, coach and teacher. Hayley's links: Website: https://halopsychology.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/hajlewis Twitter: https://twitter.com/haypsych Sketchnotes: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BVBis37Hn0n5F6iihRu1xmXHs1SGwG6j?usp=sharing Subscribe to ImpactPlus today: www.impact.wales/impactplus Hosts: Finola Wilson and Jane Miller Producer: Darren Evans Visit us at: www.impact.wales Music: Power Shutoff by Craig MacArthur --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/impacthome/message
In this episode, sketchnoter and teacher Chris Wilsontalks about language learning with sketchnotes and his use of obsidian to connect his sketchnotes together in an interconnected way. Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts. An infinite canvas sketching app built for tablets with a stylus, like the iPad Pro, Microsoft Surface, and Samsung Galaxy Tab.Concepts' infinite canvas lets you spread out and sketch in any direction. Everything you draw in Concepts is a flexible vector, so you can move your notes around the canvas, or change their color, tool or size with a simple gesture. SEARCH ”Concepts” in your favorite app store for infinite, flexible sketching.Learn more: Concepts AppRunning OrderIntroWelcomeWho is Chris?Sketchnotes and language learningHaving a conversation with your notesOrganizing sketchnotes with ObsidianWhat Chris does to cope with pandemic:Hand-lettering practiceHiking in the forest and greeneryPlaying the ukuleleSponsor: Concepts appToolsTipsWhere to find ChrisOutroLinksAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Chris on InstagramChris on YouTubeChris on TwitterLearn, Create, ShareLearn, Create, Share LinksObsidianToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Leuchtturm1917 NotebooksThe Sketchnote IdeabookSakura Pigma Micron FinelinerFaber-Castell FinelinerPentel Brush PenBic Gelocity Gel PenTombow Fudenosuke Brush PenStabilo PensiPad ProApple PencilProcreatePaper by WeTransferConceptsTipsCreate something that's just for you and not public consumptionShake up your tools and play around with themAsk what a tool wants to used for and not used for, then play with bothCreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
Tanmay Vora has integrated visuals deeply into his leadership training and business consulting through visual co-creation, helping businesses visualize ideas worth sharing. In this episode he shares what that looks like in his everyday practice.Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts.An infinite canvas sketching app built for tablets with a stylus, like the iPad Pro, Microsoft Surface, and Samsung Galaxy Tab.Concepts' infinite canvas lets you spread out and sketch in any direction. Everything you draw in Concepts is a flexible vector, so you can move your notes around the canvas, or change their color, tool or size with a simple gesture.SEARCH ”Concepts” in your favorite app store for infinite, flexible sketching.Learn more: Concepts AppRunning OrderIntroWelcomeWho is Tanmay?Tanmay's origin storyWhat Tanmay is working on nowWhat Tanmay does to cope with pandemic:Going with the flow, focus on the pursuit, show up every dayFocusing on his healthStays away from newsSponsor: Concepts appToolsTipsWhere to find TanmayOutroLinksAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Tanmay's WebsiteAbout TanmayTanmay on LinkedInTanmay on InstagramTanmay on TwitterDiana Soriat: Sketchnote Army Podcast SE09/EP10Abhijit BhaduriBook: Growth IQ by Tiffani BovaTanmay's Nudge Note SamplesToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.A4 Printer PaperPencilsStaedtler Pigment Liner Fineliner PensPhotoshopiPad ProApple PencilPaperlikePaper by WeTransferProcreateTipsIntegrate visuals into everyday tasks and routinesShare your work generously with others to keep yourself activeConstraints will help you keep on trackCreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
Dr Hayley Lewis is an award winning organisational psychologist and the founder of HALO Psychology. HALO is a consultancy using deep expertise in the field of psychology, combined with first-hand experience of leading successful multi-million pound services, to help people like you create amazing workplaces, teams and careers where you can shine. Hayley is a chartered and HCPC registered psychologist, using an evidence-based, strengths-focused and collaborative approach to her work. This positive approach is really important to her as it's the thing she's found in her 20-plus year career that can make the difference in moving to a bright, shining new world. She is also an avid Sketchnote designer and her Sketchnotes are available on her website and have made their way into a book by https://www.adamgrant.net/book/think-again/ (Adam Grant) If you want to know more about Hayley and her work then use these links: Website: https://halopsychology.com/ (https://halopsychology.com/) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/hajlewis (https://www.linkedin.com/hajlewis) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/haypsych/ (https://www.instagram.com/haypsych/) If you enjoy Women In Confidence then please rate the show and write a comment and help me spread the word and education about confidence. Vanessa xx
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Vielleicht sind dir auch schon mal Gedanken durch den Kopf wie “Haaaach, das ist nicht perfekt” oder “Irgendwann mach ich auch mal [nen Onlinekurs]” gedacht. Solche Gedanken sind ganz normal.Wichtig ist nur, dass wir sie erkennen und uns dann fragen: Ist das Fakt oder ist das ein Glaube? Und sowieso immer: ist das gerade hilfreich?So viele bleiben sehr lange an diesen Sätzen hängen. Übrigens auch in den unterschiedlichsten Phasen. Kopfkino hat man nicht nur am Anfang. Die Herausforderungen werden nur andere.Ein anderer Satz, den ich schon oft bei anderen gehört habe “In meiner Branche kann ich nicht Preis X nehmen. Das würde keiner bezahlen” oder “Online kann man nur viel Geld verdienen, wenn man auch Kurse macht, in denen man anderen wiederum zeigt, wie sie online Geld verdienen können”.Ich freu mich heute, dir Simone Abelmann auf dem Podcast vorzustellen. Solltest du Simone noch nicht kennen: sie ist DIE Sketchnotes Queen und erzählt dir von ihrer Reise. Vom IT-Nerd (wie sie selber sagt), hin zur Sketchnotes World mit Onlinekursen, mittlerweile sieben Angestellten und einem Hoch von 18.000 Webinar-Anmeldungen (Alter! Davon träum ich Nachts *haha*). Los geht's.LinksSimones Challenge (werbung)Simone auf InstagramSimone auf FacebookDer Blog zur Podcastfolge
In this episode, Zsofi Lang journeyed from NGOs and international development in Brussels, Belgium — into live sketchnoting, illustration, and mural-making. She shares what she's learned from transformative, team-building exercises where she guides teams to create large-scale murals together that map their culture and values.Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts. An infinite canvas sketching app built for tablets with a stylus, like the iPad Pro, Microsoft Surface, and Samsung Galaxy Tab.Concepts' infinite canvas lets you spread out and sketch in any direction. Everything you draw in Concepts is a flexible vector, so you can move your notes around the canvas, or change their color, tool or size with a simple gesture. SEARCH ”Concepts” in your favorite app store for infinite, flexible sketching.Learn more: Concepts AppRunning OrderIntroWelcomeWho is Zsofi?Zsofi's origin storyThe work Zsofi is doing nowWhat Zsofi does to cope with pandemicPodcastsDrawingDance PartiesSponsor: Concepts appToolsTipsWhere to find ZsofiOutroLinksZsofi's Website Zsofi's Links Zsofi on InstagramZsofi on YouTubeZsofi's 3 TipsToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Leuchtturm1917 A6 Notebook Tombow MONO Drawing Pencil, HB Uniball FinelinerStabilo 68 MarkersPosca Paint MarkersMolotow MarkersMolotow PaintsiPad ProApple PencilAutodesk SketchbookTayasui SketchesPaper by WeTransferThe Sketchnote Handbook Tips Look at other work that's awesome and analyze and understand whyVisually journal 3 things that happened todayDon't be discouraged when its hard, keep goingUse 50% opacity layer or a sticky note to capture in-progress ideasCreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
In this episode, Michael Geiß-Hein, better known as “Mister Maikel” from Germany, shares his journey from analog-only to adding digital graphic recording and sketchnoting to his company's options.Mister Maikel also talks about his experience creating his new book on sketchnoting, “Sketchnotes, Dein Workshop” or “Sketchnotes, Your Workshop” where he teaches you to improve your sketchnotes in 6 weeks.Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts.An infinite canvas sketching app built for tablets with a stylus, like the iPad Pro, Microsoft Surface, and Samsung Galaxy Tab.Concepts' infinite canvas lets you spread out and sketch in any direction. Draw and take notes with liquid pens, markers and brushes in your favorite Copic designer colors.Everything you draw in Concepts is a flexible vector, so you can move your notes around the canvas, or change their color, tool or size with a simple gesture.Drag and drop images onto the canvas, and use layers and grids to organize your creative space. When you're ready to share, export straight to your friends or team.SEARCH ”Concepts” in your favorite app store for infinite, flexible sketching.Learn more: Concepts AppRunning OrderIntro: Who is Mister Maikel?Mister Maikel's origin storyAbout Michael's new book, “Sketchnotes, Dein Workshop” or “Sketchnotes, Your Workshop”What does Maikel do to keep sane in a pandemic?Learning to play the guitarLooking after his inner voiceSpend a lot of time with his kidsMore collaborationAdapting to digital before and the pandemicCrafting digital experiencesLoving local, analog experiences, and performancesTools3 tipsOrigin story of the “Mister Maikel” nameOutroLinksMister Maikel's WebsiteMister Maikel on InstagramSketchnotes Dein WorkshopMartin HaussmannArt, Work & Progress MINI Interview in GermanToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Signal Pilot Monoline PenPilot Brush PenNeuland PensSakura Pigma PenKapa Line BoardsiPad ProApple PencilProcreateAdobe PhotoshopTipsWhy do you draw? Learn to draw for passion!Draw everywhere and all the time. Carry a sketchbook!Count your blessings not your troubles.CreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
In this episode I talk with Ben Norris, a software developer, sketchnoter, mental health advocate, blacksmith, a loving husband and father of 7.Ben shares his passion for mental health, and how sketchnoting is a meditative practice he's used to support his own journey with ideas for you too.Journey along with us on this thoughtful discussion.Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts. An infinite canvas sketching app built for tablets with a stylus, like the iPad Pro, Microsoft Surface, and Samsung Galaxy Tab.Concepts' infinite canvas lets you spread out and sketch in any direction. Draw and take notes with liquid pens, markers and brushes in your favorite Copic designer colors.Everything you draw in Concepts is a flexible vector, so you can move your notes around the canvas, or change their color, tool or size with a simple gesture. Drag and drop images onto the canvas, and use layers and grids to organize your creative space. When you're ready to share, export straight to your friends or team.SEARCH ”Concepts” in your favorite app store for infinite, flexible sketching.Learn more: Concepts AppRunning OrderIntro: Who is Ben?Ben's origin storyThe possibilities of career changeLayering sketchnotes on top of something you loveSketchnoting as a means to solving problemsSermon and church sketchnotesConference sketchnotesWhat does Ben do to keep sane in a pandemic?Creating family experiences togetherLearning and practicing mindfulnessSketchnoting as a mindfulness practiceTools3 tipsOutroLinksBen's WebsiteMental Work HealthSketchnotableGospel SketcherBen on Micro.blogBen on TwitterBen on InstagramBen on LinkedInBack of the Napkin by Dan RoamEva-Lotta LammJeffrey ZeldmanBalsamiqJason Barron on the Sketchnote Army PodcastRob DimeoBook: Understanding Comics by Scott McCloudToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Moleskine SketchbooksThe Sketchnote IdeabookStudio Neat's TotebookPilot G2 0.7mm Gel PeniPad ProApple PencilLinea SketchPaper by WeTransferProcreateTipsBelieve in yourself!Listen well.Try different layoutsFollow those who teach drawing, load ideas into your handCreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
In this episode of the podcast, hear from Josie Dee — a sketchnoter, author, script-writer, and poet as she shares how she entered into visual thinking and continues to use Sketchnotes every day in unique ways.Josie found a niche at work where she captures sketchnotes that help clarify communications, and how initially it was a challenge to convince her colleagues of the benefits. Hear the unique ways she meets colleagues where they are to teach sketchnoting and how she documents her research, using sketchnotes.Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts. An infinite canvas sketching app built for tablets with a stylus, like the iPad Pro, Microsoft Surface, and Samsung Galaxy Tab.Concepts' infinite canvas lets you spread out and sketch in any direction. Draw and take notes with liquid pens, markers and brushes in your favorite Copic designer colors.Everything you draw in Concepts is a flexible vector, so you can move your notes around the canvas, or change their color, tool or size with a simple gesture. Drag and drop images onto the canvas, and use layers and grids to organize your creative space. When you're ready to share, export straight to your friends or team.SEARCH ”Concepts” in your favorite app store for infinite, flexible sketching.Learn more: Concepts AppRunning OrderIntro: Who is Josie Dee?Josie's origin storyCelebrating mistakesUsing space to visualizeMemory Palace MethodSketchnoting in the officeTeaching sketchnoting to colleaguesSketchnotes for user researchSketchnotes for writingUsing sketchnotes to break writer's blockPandemic optimistic counterweights:New puppy, ScullyWriting poetryTools3 tipsOutroLinksJosie's websiteJosie on InstagramJosie on TwitterJosie on FacebookThe Memory Palace or Method of lociToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Tombow Brush PensMuji PensStaedtler Fineliner 308iskn SlateiPad ProApple PencilTipsDon't stop because you've plateaued — just keep doing it!Play with alphabets and “Challenge Accepted!”Listen to music in a new way.CreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
In this episode, I talk with compulsive sketchnoter and designer, Rasagy Sharma from India.Learn how Rasagy came into design and sketchnoting from computer science, coding and engineering. Hear Rasagy talk about the hard work of improving his handwriting and how that led to his sketchnoting practice.I think you're going to enjoy this interview!Sponsored by ConceptsThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Concepts. An infinite canvas sketching app built for tablets with a stylus, like the iPad Pro, Microsoft Surface, and Samsung Galaxy Tab.Concepts' infinite canvas lets you spread out and sketch in any direction. Draw and take notes with liquid pens, markers and brushes in your favorite Copic designer colors.Everything you draw in Concepts is a flexible vector, so you can move your notes around the canvas, or change their color, tool or size with a simple gesture. Drag and drop images onto the canvas, and use layers and grids to organize your creative space. When you're ready to share, export straight to your friends or team.SEARCH ”Concepts” in your favorite app store for infinite, flexible sketching.Learn more: Concepts AppRunning OrderIntro: Who is Rasagy?Rasagy's origin storyHow handwriting and need for focus moved Rasagy to sketchnotingHow engineering impacts structuring of sketchnotesImportance of typography awareness in sketchnotesThe importance of simplificationSketchnoting in IndiaRasagy developing a sketchnoting scholarship programHow sparks can influence others to visualizationRasagy's teaching experienceRasagy's interest in data visualization and cartographyThe importance if visualization in businessThe sketchnoting engine applies to other areasRasagy's Pandemic Positives:Building iPad Pro and Procreate experimentation Exploring how he can better archive sketchnotesTools3 tipsOutroLinksRasagy's websiteRasagy's sketchnotesRasagy on LinkedInRasagy on InstagramRasagy on TwitterEva-Lotta Lamm's FlickrSwiss StyleBasic rules of typographyGraphic Facilitation India CommunityBen CrothersPiyuesh ModiToolsAmazon affiliate links support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Muji 0.7 Liner in Blue-BlackSakura Micron FinelinersKuretaki Brush PeniPad ProApple PencilProcreateRoam ResearchObsidianTipsBe kind to yourself.Sketchnote for yourself, not others.Find your tribe!CreditsProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSubscribe to the Sketchnote Army PodcastYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music or your favorite podcast listening source.Support the PodcastTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
Tune in for a wide-ranging conversation with Creative Team leader Maslin Brown! (For those who would like to learn more about "Sketchnotes," check out Mike Rohde's website.)
In this episode of the STEM ED Podcast, I chat with Trevor MacKenzie - International Keynote Speaker, Best-selling Author and Inquiry Educator from Canada. Trevor and I chat about all things to do with inquiry learning, including the links to STEM education, how to set up a culture of inquiry in your classroom, how to engage students of all ages in inquiry learning, and more. This is such a perfect follow on from his contribution to Issue 4 of the magazine. To find Trevor's Sketchnotes as mentioned in this episode, visit his website here. To connect with Trevor, you can find him: On his website On Twitter: @trev_mackenzie On Instagram: @tntmackenzie On Facebook: @Trevor MacKenzie Inquiry Mindset For more information about us at STEM ED Magazine, you can find us: On our website On Twitter: @stemedmagazine On Instagram: @stemedmagazine On Facebook: @stemedmagazine
In this episode of the podcast, hear from Debbie Baff, a PhD Student in E-Research and Technology Enhanced Learning. Debbie has found sketchnotes have been instrumental in her academic work. Hear how mind mapping connects to sketchnotes for her and how she uses sketchnotes to better understand complex ideas.SPONSORED BYThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by Neuland, the innovative maker of visual thinking tools. Every Neuland product is designed with passion to be durable and sustainable.Check out their newly redesigned Neuland FineOne® line of water-based, refillable markers:The rich, black, permanent Outliner in bullet and brush optionsThe crisp, fine lines and rich colors of the Sketch lineThe flowing, variable brushes and colors of the Art lineSave 15% with code neuland@sketchnotearmy-2021 at Neuland.com until May 30th, 2021RUNNING ORDERIntro: Who is Debbie?Debbie's origin story and path into sketchnotingMind-mapping influences and connections to sketchnotingTwo educational paths: art path and idea path?Development of thinking and styleHow Debbie integrates sketchnotes into her PhD workHeuristic Inquiry + sketchnotesNick Sousanis and visual PhD work'What is Debbie excited about?ToolsTipsOutroLINKSAmazon affiliate links below support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.Debbie's WebsiteDebbie on TwitterDebbie Baff's Sketchnotes PadletBook: How to Use Your Head by Tony BuzanBrian Mathers' Open Visual ThinkeryUsing Sketchnotes in PhD Research and Academic PracticeNick SousanisBook: Unflattening by Nick SousanisNick's Comic Studies Minor at San Francisco State UniversityInterview with Nick Sousanis on Sketchnote Army PodcastEleanor BeerSketchnote Army Podcast on Self-CareTOOLSAmazon affiliate links below support the Sketchnote Army Podcast.PadletMoleskine Hard Cover Art SketchbookSakura Pigma Micron FinelinerTombow Dual Brush Grayscale 6-Pack SetTombow Dual Brush Pink MarkeriPad Pro 12.9”Apple PencilPaper by WeTransferGoodnotesProcreateTIPSUse sticky notes to capture ideas before committingTake a photo of the powerpoint for referenceGo for it! Your sketchnote might encourage othersBuild your own icon libraryCREDITSProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSUBSCRIBE ON ITUNESYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes.SUPPORT THE PODCASTTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
BGBS 055: Mike Rohde | Sketchnotes | No One Has Your Persnickety-ness How can you dare to do something you previously thought you couldn't do? Mike Rohde, designer and author of two bestselling books: The Sketchnote Handbook and The Sketchnote Workbook, helps everyday people overcome just that. Through simplifying the art of drawing and providing a judgement-free space, Mike empowers his students to realize their Sketchnoting capabilities. Mike defines Sketchnoting as a communication device that is first for you, then for other people. Whether you make scribbly drawings or masterpieces, the importance is that you engage with what you've retained to find value in what you learn. Drawing was always a part of Mike's life, and we learn about his journey from doodling cars from memory as a kid, to working as a print designer in the pre-computer era. All of his knowledge truly paid off when having full control of the hand-lettering and drawing within his books. To Mike, writing a book is like climbing a mountain, but he emphasizes that celebrating each small win makes it oh-so worthwhile. Today, Mike is on a mission to teach, and the world is definitely better off because of it. Keep making the world a little bit braver Mike! In this episode, you'll learn... In most of Mike's workshops, around 80-90% of participants begin the session believing they can't draw. His goal is to make these same people confident in their abilities by the end of at least an hour. “Ideas, not art.” People get hung up on the idea of their ability to draw as a stumbling block. Once Mike teaches them a simpler way to visualize in a flexible setting, non-artists realize that they have much more capability than they believe Here's the thing about Sketchnotes: It's first for you, then for other people. If you have a scratchy drawing that captures meaningful information, that is more valuable than a beautiful Sketchnote that doesn't represent what you've heard Growing up, if Mike wanted something, he had to create it himself. This is how he made his own comic books and newspapers, allowing him to hone and master the skill of drawing from memory, which helps him with work to this day In a long haul project like writing a book, it's all about the progress, not the achievement. It can't be done overnight; there will be lots of grinding and revisions and being happy with the progress made, no matter how small, will make everything worthwhile. Before the name “Sketchnote” was coined, Mike named his creation “sketchtoons”. After writing notes for a life-changing event in 2007, the new name felt more fitting Mike enjoys using both an iPad or pen and paper for his work and doesn't prefer one over the other. The way he sees it, you wouldn't ask a professional mechanic if they prefer a wrench or hammer! They each have their own strength and purpose. Lately, Mike has been into drawing with good old Paper Mate Flair Pens on his own Sketchnote Ideabook, which has thick, white paper ideal for Sketchnoting Mike believes that the thickness of a pen line will affect your state of mind while working and can impact the way you draw The Sketchnoting technique is beginning to be used within schools to get students more engaged in their learning and discover how to better analyze and make sense of the world Resources Website: rohdesign.com LinkedIn: Mike Rohde Facebook: @Sketchnote Handbook Instagram: @rohdesign Twitter: @rohdesign Quotes [11:54] The more important skill in Sketchnoting is actually listening and analysis. So the ability to listen and to make sense of what's being said, and to then be able to draw it is really key. If you have scribbly, scratchy drawings and writing but you're able to listen and make sense of something and capture it, that's going to be much more valuable than a beautiful Sketchnote that doesn't represent what you were learning or what you heard. [24:12] Ultimately, it wasn't about the money...I've been through enough projects where I wasn't in control of things to know that when you turn it over to someone else, they just don't have your vision or your persnickety-ness to make things exactly the way you want it. [30:38] Here's some wisdom for people who are thinking about book writing and creation. It's definitely worthwhile when you're done. But it's definitely a journey when you're going through it. And that's okay, I think it's good to have those lifetime experiences where you can't do it in a weekend, you've got to do it over months. [41:51] Seth Godin always talks about if the idea is good, you're probably not going to be able to stop it...I just look back at these certain pivot points where it hit a point and accelerated, and it just continues to do that. And now, there's tons of people doing it and teaching it and sharing it. And I really like that. I love having lots of voices in the space. I think it just verifies that it's a real thing. And it's definitely a benefit to people who adopt it. Podcast Transcript Mike Rohde 0:02 It's really funny that all that stuff happened in the first that first 2007 I think that the first 2007 was where I realized, it feels like I should call it sketchnoting. Before that, it's funny like, up to that point it was like the pro name for it was sketch tunes like I was, it was sort of like was cartoons and sketching. But when I did this event, it was a little less like cartoons and just more like sketching and noting and that word just came to me. So it was right at that event, when I just really started calling it sketchnoting. And for whatever reason that name seemed to make sense to a lot of people and they liked it. Marc Gutman 0:39 Podcasting from Boulder, Colorado, this is the Baby Got Backstory Podcast, where we dive into the story behind the story of today's most inspiring storytellers, creators and entrepreneurs. I like big back stories and I cannot lie. I am your host, Marc Gutman, Marc Gutman, and on today's episode of Baby got backstory, we are talking to someone who has impacted my life in ways that very few have and today we are talking with Mike Rohde, the author, and I guess you can say inventor of Sketchnotes, the unique method of taking notes visually. And before we get into my conversation with Mike, if you'd like and enjoy the show, please take a minute or two to rate and review us over at Apple podcasts or Spotify. And Apple and Spotify use these ratings as part of the algorithm that determines ratings on their charts. Better yet, please recommend this show to at least one friend you think will like it. Hey, while you're at it, one enemy who like it as well. It's time we bring the world together over the common love of the Baby Got Backstory podcast. Today's guest is Mike Rohde. Mike is a designer and the author of two best selling books, the sketchnote Handbook, and the Sketchnote workbook. He teaches in evangelizes sketchnoting. in Visual Thinking literacy around the world, he's a principal designer in visualizer. at Johnson Controls, his team helps group and define problems and imagine new solutions using Human Centered Design Thinking principles. Mike illustrated the best selling books rework, remote, the hundred dollar startup in the little book of talent. And as I mentioned, Mike's book changed my life. I'm not I'm not joking here. I believe it was Brent Weaver, who suggested the book to me in passing. And it wasn't supposed to be life changing. Just a little recommendation from a friend, or something he had heard of, or briefly seen. Hey, you should check out this book, about sketchnoting. I think that's what it's called, is what he told me that when I opened up the book, it was as if Mike was speaking directly to me, to the way I saw the world, to the way I learned to the way I listened at events. But I had self doubts. I didn't, and still don't see myself as an artist. My drawings are rough and crude. But Mike's book told me I could do it. If I followed his teachings, if I followed his steps. And you know what? He was right. And a whole new world opened up for me, my aperture expanded and I was able to communicate in a way that was authentic to me in a way that was beneficial to me and appreciated by others. Today, I get stopped by others who crane their necks to see my notes. I've shared my notes that the requests of others and classmates and people at conferences. And most importantly, it has helped my memory of key ideas and events in a way that handwriting just can't. Oh, and by the way, I have the world's worst handwriting. Several times a day, I lose an idea or a to do item on my list because I can't read my own handwriting. Drawing and big type in pictures was designed for me. Recently, my good friend Keith Roberts and I were interviewing one another, and he asked me about Sketchnotes. And we published that interview to YouTube. And you might imagine my surprise when on a Saturday morning while drinking coffee, Mike Rohde emailed me saying he liked our video that started an email conversation back and forth. And here we are. I'm so excited to introduce you to Mike Rohde, and this is his story. I am here with Mike Rohde, the author of the sketchnote handbook in the follow up the Sketchnote work. book. And as I told Mike, when we when we just met on zoom here a couple minutes ago, it is a real honor because Mike is a personal hero of mine. I'm a big fan of sketchnoting. I did a little YouTube video about it and via the power of the search engines and crawling algorithms that found its way to Mike and Mike reached out and said, I was really cool that you like my sketchnoting? And I said, Yeah, that's really cool. You liked my video about your sketchnoting? Yes, no. And so here we are. And so Mike, let's get right to it. Like what is Sketchnoting? Mike Rohde 5:39 So Sketchnoting is this way of capturing information visually. So it's note taking, but you're not limited to only writing, you can write, and you can draw pictures, and you can do lettering and use icons and color to express yourself in a way that's more expressive. And I think, provides more ability to remember and recall information than simply writing in text. Marc Gutman 6:05 Yeah, I would agree that's one of the things that I love most about it is the ability to recall I mean, I'll be flipping through old notebooks. And I'll see like something funny that I, I drew that was it was meaningful to me, like, Yes, I completely remember what that was about, and what we talked about in the takeaway, versus if I'm thumbing through and I see a bunch of text and, you know, it just doesn't resonate in the same way. So that that memory recall, is one of the the biggest things I love about it. And, you know, I think one of the first questions most people probably have is, you know, do I have to be an artist? Do I have to be have this immense talent to be into Sketchnoting? Mike Rohde 6:39 That's a really great question. And when I used to present in person, I haven't presented so much in person lately. One of the first questions I would ask in one of my workshops, whether they were an hour or a full day, is who here feels like they can't try, please raise your hand, and usually 80 or 90% of the room would raise their hands. And I would get excited about that. Because having done the workshop hundreds of times now, I know that by the end of at least an hour, people will feel more confident in their ability to draw in the key to it is exactly what you pointed out, people are concerned that this is art. And if I'm not a good artist, I can't do it. And so it's really fun to show them another way. Another way to, to visualize it doesn't necessarily rely on the art that they may have been taught in school, which in a lot for a lot of people is baggage, it's more harmful than helpful to getting started. So one of my mantras is ideas, not art. And it's not, it sounds very provocative to an artist. I'm an artist as well. And I don't feel that way at all. I think what it what it means to me. And the reason I use that term, is the idea that people get so hung up on their ability to draw, being a stumbling block, that I needed to take that stumbling block away from them, I needed to provide them a simpler way to visualize what they were thinking that would not be so demanding, and so difficult for them to do, right. And especially in an environment where you're doing this live while thing people are talking and being able to draw, making it simple, is a really, really big key to getting people to do this, because you can you know, most people who come to the classes already can write. So I mean, unless you're teaching, you know, second graders or something like that, that the challenge is just be writing, right? Maybe actually, the second grader could draw better than they could write. But for most people, they can already do notes as it is right. They can write things, but they are really afraid of drawing. In fact, I kind of wonder if the fear of drawing is actually stronger than the fear of public speaking in some ways. And the reason I say that is, as you think about it, let's say you're a really successful business person, maybe a CEO, or a high powered executive, and you're supposed to go and draw something. But if you can, if you can't draw any better than a fourth grader, that's not going to be your best side, you don't want to reveal your weakness, right? So it can be really scary for someone who feels like that's a weakness in their life, to admit it to someone else. So I think it's really important to in these workshops, and also individually to create some kind of a safe space where it's okay to not be graded, trying and again, so it comes back to the simple way of drawing that makes it possible for non artists to do this work. And to see that they've actually got tons more capabilities than they probably realized when they walked in the room. Marc Gutman 9:32 Yeah, I totally agree. And you talk a bit about writing in this in this idea of writing and how we all know how to write but, you know, to me, there's this mythology that artists are born they come out of their mother and they are just talented. And when you were speaking it reminded me that well, yes, well, we all can write it's a learned skill and we don't come out as babies with the ability to to make characters and we actually spend quite a bit of time practicing, and we have, you know, in our class, we have dotted paper and all these things to make the most basic characters. And what I really like about Sketchnoting is this same idea that it's something that you can learn, and you can build up your own alphabet, so to speak, you can build up your own library of things that you can draw on, it really is more about being suggestive. And I think, you know, what I really love. And I don't remember which book it is. But there's, there's a variety of ways of even doing like human figures, like I'm like terrible human figures, but you can do stick figures with pointy noses. And just by the way that you can't the line or have an arm movement, you can suggest motion and all sorts of things. So really taking that away and using Sketchnoting more as a communication device and something that people can learn. And so that, you know, that's something that is that I've taken away from your books that, you know, with a little bit of practice, like you can build up your own library and get pretty, pretty good, at least for your own skill level of wherever you want to be. Mike Rohde 11:01 Yeah, I mean, it comes back to is it helping you be better be a better person, right? is it helping you? If you go to a conference and you want to learn something? is it helping you remembers and helping you process and helping you learn better, like, I could care less? If it looks awesome, right? That's not the point of it. In fact, you don't even have to show it to me, you can keep it private. If that's what you feel like, I think that's sort of a misnomer was Sketchnotes that seems to travel with it as well. If you Sketchnote, then you have to publish it on social media and the show everybody in the world, your work? Well, you can but I don't think it's required, it's first for you, and then for other people. Mike Rohde 11:37 So it's going to have more meaning for you, because you're the one that did it. And all those little short hands that you're doing, as you're creating the Sketchnotes mean a lot more to you, especially since you were there in the moment when it was happening, right, it's gonna bring back memories that nobody else has got in their heads. So I think actually, the more important skill in Sketchnoting is actually listening, and analysis. So the ability to listen and to make sense of what's being said, and to then be able to draw it is really key. So if you have, you know, scribbly, scratchy drawings and writing and stuff, but you're able to listen and make sense of something and capture it, that's going to be much more valuable than a beautiful Sketchnote that, you know, is doesn't represent what what you were learning or what you heard. So I do think listening is kind of like the secret weapon that a lot of people overlook, for drawing really well. And I think, you know, drawing is sort of a part of it. But it's almost like a whole body experience of listening and drawing and involves every part of your body, which is another good reason to do it, because it's really fully engaging in a lot of ways. Marc Gutman 12:45 And so you're in Wisconsin now, is that where you grew up? Mike Rohde 12:49 I grew up in the Chicago area, actually, as a kid, and moved here. When I was in my teens, and had been here for quite a while, raised a family here really liked this area. I always felt good. Being a Midwesterner, I like the seasons. So it's been a really good fit for me and my family. And I like I like being here. Like, kind of like being from Milwaukee, there's, it's kind of a cool little town that sometimes people don't always think about when they come here, like this is a really cool city. How did I not know about this city? So it's kind of fun to sort of know my way around and know the cool places to take people. And it's kind of fun. It's it's good to be from the Midwest, and in the Midwest, I guess. Marc Gutman 13:28 Yeah, I can attest I last time I was in Milwaukee was I think, during the polar vortex, like two years ago, and I couldn't really go outside very much. But it was it was really great and really cool seeing there. And I can't remember the name of it. But I went to this really cool kind of indie movie theater. And I see that you're in the movies there with your background with Blade Runner and Star Wars Back to the Future. And, and that's a big love of mine to see I really, really loved that. And Wisconsin. And so when you were growing up in Chicago, and then into Milwaukee, I mean, were you always kind of doodling Were you always thinking in images? Mike Rohde 14:02 I think I was when I look back as a kid. You know, we we were I guess, lower middle class. I don't know. I don't think that can be judged a lot of different ways. But we did have like tons of money. If I asked for stuff like maybe I'd get it for Christmas, or maybe my birthday. I didn't have lots of toys. We had used bikes that my dad would get from a cousin fix it up. And my dad was good at fixing things. So typically, we would get things that were repurposed, which I kind of appreciate now, and so if I wanted something, I would sort of have to create it. So I got into making my own comic books and I made a little newspapers and books and you know, I did drawing a lot because it was kind of fun. I think a lot of it. I was seeing things and the way I saw things is a little bit unusual for a kid. Mike Rohde 14:49 So I remember, as a little kid, my parents told me that I basically memorize the front's of old cars and I saw the faces In the cars, so the headlights and the grills how had faces to me. So you could be driving down a road and I was Oh, that's a Buick. And then as I got older, that's all the saber, or you know, like I could identify the differences between these cars by the identifying grills or tail lights or other, you know, the lines of the vehicles. And I think that actually encouraged me to draw those. So I could draw them from memory. And I can still do some dumb practices like I did when I was a little kid. But you know, that the ability to memorize and sort of turn cars into objects, I think, sort of primed me in some ways for this idea of doing the visual library that you talk about, like, how can you break down these complex things into simple, simple shapes or simple objects that you could recreate, and you have the essence of the thing, even though it's like, you know, 10 lines, you can capture the essence of a Pontiac lesabre. Right. So that that also came into play. Later, when I was in college, I was a print major and became a graphic design major, one of the things I loved was type graphy. And that was another thing that I could memorize the letter form. So certain letter forms go with certain typefaces, and you could spot a typeface. And all you really need to know is like three or four of the key letter forms. And if you see it in a sentence, you can spot Oh, that skill sands, or that's whatever, right because of specific characteristics. So I think it's the same kind of thing. It's like identifying and boiling things down, and then being able to rely on that memory. I think that's helped me now in doing that kind of that same kind of work. And drawing was always sort of part of my life. And it just never, they never were, no one was able to ever shake it out of me. So I guess I'm lucky in that way that I got to draw since I was a little kid. And it really never stopped. Until now, even in my professional life, I found a way to kind of squeeze it in. Or sometimes they say it leaks out of me whether I like it or not. So that's been a real, I'm really fortunate that that's true for me. Marc Gutman 16:58 Yeah. And that was gonna be my question. So your your parents cool with you pursuing a career in art? Did they see that as a way that you were going to be able to, to make a living, I am sure for, you know, the way you just described it, that middle to lower middle class that like, hey, they probably were like, Hey, we just, we just wanna make sure Mike is okay, you know, he makes a living. And he can make a buck where they were they cool with the art path? Mike Rohde 17:21 Well, my mom is always actually very artistic. And my dad was very good at troubleshooting. So I took on both of those aspects from them. So the funny thing about me is I always had sort of a technical side and an artistic side. So I had both those. I think my dad was probably more concerned. And I'm sort of facing this now, because I've got a son who's just turned 18. So we're kind of wondering, like, what's he going to do right now I'm in the same spot as my dad was. But I think he just didn't understand like, what was an option, then, like, he didn't know understand what graphic design or commercial art was, in our school or high school, I happened to have a really good printing program, at the time, where you could learn printing in the school, do all this work, and then you'd get an apprenticeship and get a job in industry and just transition and be a full time could make pretty good money as a printer back in the day. Mike Rohde 18:10 But as it would, as luck would have it, it was right around the time of a kind of a recession. And so the jobs that normally would have been wide open for a kid like me coming out of high school, with those skills suddenly dried up. And so I went to a Technical College, again, in printing. And in my printing class. There, we did lots of cross training. So I ended up in these design classes with designers in the commercial art or graphic design program. And so I ended up in these design classes, and they're like, what are you doing in printing, you should be a designer. And so I sort of thought, you know, that's, that's a pretty good idea. I'm pretty good at this. And I do like the technical side of the printing. So I switched majors and became a print designer to start my career. And I think I always had the advantage of, you know, I mentioned I was always had a technical and an artistic side. Having come from that printing side, I understood that the reason why printing worked and what the limits were. So when I did my design work, I sort of always had that in the back of my head, and I could go to a press check with a printer, and I could have a discussion with them about ideas for making things print better, or, you know, my stuff would tend to print pretty well because I knew what I should and shouldn't do because I was a printing student. So that's sort of where I made my shift into design and my dad's ended up being very happy with my career choice, but I think a lot of it is he just didn't understand at the time that there was actually a way to do art and be paid for it. He just thought of the starving artists eating ramen noodles in a studio apartment right and then starving their way through life or something. So, you know, he did his best and you know, he ultimately had to trust your kids to make good decisions and that the the train that you gave them up till they were 18 would rub off on him a little bit and then Seems like it did. Marc Gutman 20:02 Yeah. And so your dad, you know, had the wherewithal to step back and let you be your own man. But like, what were you thinking? Were you super confident coming out of school that like you were gonna conquer the world with your art degree? Or was there? Are you uncertain? Or like how clear were you coming out of like, if this was gonna work or not? Mike Rohde 20:20 Well, I was pretty hard, I was pretty hardcore for printing, like, I was pretty good at that I had an artistic eye for it. And I was good at the technical stuff. And I understood the concepts and knew how to apply them. And, you know, there was a little bit of an at the time, because it was still pre computer, when I was coming out, there was a little bit of artistic flair to printing at the time, right? Because you did things made most things you did manually. So there was some human aspect to it, that you could, you could be kind of almost artistic in this in this profession. And I was pretty good at it, I was pretty dedicated to going into that. And then, like I said, the economy sort of changed the direction. And I'm glad it did, because, you know, it sent me back to college, because otherwise I might have just gone right into that business and would have been a printer. And so, you know, it sort of made me pause a little bit and rethink, there was a time for, I think, for a summer that I was into photography as well. Mike Rohde 21:18 So I've always had an interest in these, I guess, communications or visual arts, in general. So all those things are still interesting to me doing photography, I by no means a professional photographer, but you know, I like to, I like taking good shots, I like good lighting, like all those things sort of informed all the work that I do now. So I tend to be, I guess, you know, I would call myself a renaissance man. But I like a lot of different things. I like to have competence in different areas. So having those skills is definitely worked out. Well, for me being able to do as a solo person, or partnering with just one or one other person, like in the case of the Kickstarter, you know, shooting, shooting photos, and doing illustrations, and, you know, all that kind of stuff, all those skills have come become very valuable. Now, as I'm doing this, you know, teaching and product work. And even the books that I wrote, all that printing skill that I had sort of forgotten for a long time came in handy because when peachpit, the publisher came to me, they said, Hey, can we give you like $5,000? And have you design your own book? That's like, Yeah, sure. So I took it all the way from writing the text, and sketching and doing the illustrations to production. So I'm quite an unusual author in that sense that I actually turned over my production files to the printer, and they ran the book, based on my production work. So that's, um, that was a really nice thing to have control from end to end over the whole product. But what were both of the books. So you know, at the time, it's sort of like, you know, the Steve Jobs, quote, you can't see how things how the dots line up until you look back. And that was definitely one of those cases like going into it. He told me when I was a printing student, that one day, I would write this book about visual notetaking. And I would design the book, and it would be a best seller. And I've traveled the world teaching it like, you got to be crazy, like, you would never believe that. But here we are. Looking back and all those experiences. And all that knowledge that I gained over time, really did help me in doing the things that I'm doing now. Marc Gutman 23:23 Yeah, and just for those of you listening, since we are on an auditory medium versus visual, like if you you know, I do want to point out like the complexity of your book, this is not like, you know, I think I think you know, today you can go you can do an E file, you can send it to Amazon, you can get a little cover art, and they'll turn out a book that looks amazing. That looks like it was you know, that's the real deal. But your book is a very visual artistic book, every page is hand lettered, every page is hand drawn to some degree. And so that that's no like insignificant fact that you put in our work. Yeah, he put this book together. I was like, $5,000, like, they got a good deal for that! Mike Rohde 24:04 Yeah, it wasn't like, you know, I took that opportunity as well. I can make money doing it. But I have control that was really, ultimately it wasn't about the money. It was about the ability to make sure so I I've been through enough projects where I wasn't in control of things, to know that when you turn it over to someone else, they just don't have your vision and or your persnickety ness to make things exactly the way you want it. Right, and maybe that's being a perfectionist, but, you know, I I've heard stories of other authors who are also designers who gave up that right someone else. And they were really, really frustrated, like they would spit covers and they would get all turned around. And I just had a really great working relationship with my editor and all the people on that team that they trusted me and I trusted them and we just really worked together well, and it's, it worked out really well. And it's interesting, you mentioned that the book being hand lettered. Mike Rohde 24:58 Actually, one of the things that I I realized as a print production designer was, I do not want to hand write this whole book, because there's going to be too many typos that I'm going to make. So I actually reached out to a friend and said, Hey, do you know somebody who does typeface work? And he's Yeah, sure, this guy named Dell wetherington. Does that work? So I reached out, and he was willing to make a typeface out of my handwriting. So we did several different fonts. And that's what we use to produce the book. So it made it like almost like typesetting like you would use Microsoft Word or something. And then in the end, we had turned that into a product now you can actually buy that typeface for your own projects called the Sketchnote typeface. So, you know, this thing that we did for the book purpose ended up being, you know, an asset later that people use it. In fact, three weeks ago, I saw an ad in a Costco. flyer in my email was using my typeface. So it's, it's pretty crazy how you think it's a one time thing, and it can often have greater impacts. And maybe you imagined in the first place. Marc Gutman 25:59 Yeah, I mean, that's going to be quite the feeling when you see your own typeface and the Costco flyer, and you tell Dell, if he's ever looking for a model of a typeface that's legible. I would be happy to to be you could use my handwriting. You This is like, but it makes me feel a lot better that that was typeset versus, versus hand drawn. Mike Rohde 26:18 Most of it Marc Gutman 26:19 Yeah, yeah. Mike Rohde 26:19 Some of it, Some of it was handwritten, like some of the, in the sketches, Sketchnotes, do have people's actual handwriting. But I mean, the body of the text was my, my typeface, which, you know, Delve was pretty sneaky. He found out there's a feature in this interfaces you can do called contextual alternates, and some, some software like our page layout software, will use it. And what it does is you can have like 10 different A's and 10 different E's and 10 different ages, and it will randomly rotate through them to make the make the typeface look more random. So especially important for a handwritten style typeface to you know, not like not the same as over and over again, it would actually rotate through I think he, I think he kept it at like four is four characters for each letter that can potentially spin in there randomly. So it gives it a little bit more of a random feel to it, which I thought was kind of a neat little nuance that nobody but me and delve and now your listeners will know about. Marc Gutman 27:19 No, I think that's fascinating. I never knew that that was possible. And just like the or even, you know, just technology, like there's such a custom aspect to it yet. It's it's really brought to us via technology. It's incredible to me. So you mentioned this a little bit. But, you know, what's what's challenging about writing a book like this or writing a book in general? Like, what don't we know? Mike Rohde 27:43 Well, I would say this, if you're thinking about writing a book, I encourage you to do it, because I think I never thought I would write a book. And here I am an author of two books. So I think there is definitely there are definitely books in people. So I would encourage you to do it. Mike Rohde 27:56 But I would also go into suggest you go into it clear, I didn't know that writing a book is a huge undertaking. It's like walking the Appalachian Trail or climbing a mountain. And I say that in the sense that the thing that I learned about writing the first and then the second book was if you're used to pulling all nighters and doing projects, forget it, it doesn't work that way. I, I kind of grew up in the design business where you could like pull all nighters and do like an annual report in a weekend or, you know, stuff like that, you could pull it off, right? You cannot do that with a book, it just doesn't, it won't accept that option. You can do an all, you know, you can spend all weekend and write something, but it's going to be a long haul. So basically know that it's going to be a long haul and sort of plan accordingly. What I found really valuable for me was having a team that would sort of keep me on track and make sure that I was doing the things that I was doing. So editors, editors are hugely important. If you think you can get away without an editor and you're writing a book, then you're fooling yourself. You need editors, both copy editors to make sure you're not saying dumb things to you know, other other editors who make sure that your concepts makes sense and hold up and challenge you and say, Do you really believe that? Is that really true? Like those kind of things, they're going to make your work better? Like it's a pain in the moment, but it's better in the long run. So I think a good team is really important if you're going to write a book, even if you have to assemble it yourself. And then I would say the probably the last thing is, well, I'll say two more things. The next thing is you have to know that in a long haul project like this, it's all about progress. It's not about achieving it. Like I said, you can't pull the weekender and knock out a book, I guess you could but it might be a bad book. But it's gonna take lots of revisions and lots of grinding. You just have to be like, happy with progress, like, Hey, I made progress today. You know, even if it's writing a page or whatever it might be like look at the progress. And know that if you continue along that path that's going to build up into a whole book. And I would say the last thing is, when you write a book and you're done with the book, you're only have done because the other half is promotion. And often that's actually harder than writing the book. So, you know, know that promoting is going to be a ton of work. And that it, it requires a lot of effort to do that as well. And, you know, something I learned in that space was don't do everything, all the ones like so don't have all your podcasts launched on the first day, like spread them out. So they sprinkled through the, you know, a month or something. So it seems like you're everywhere for a month, right? That's gonna be probably your, your best option to get people's attention, you know, repeated repeated action, in their mind is sort of what where it's at. So there's some wisdom for people who are thinking about book, writing and creation. It's definitely worthwhile when you're done. But it's definitely a journey when you're going through it. And if that's okay, I think it's good to have those lifetime experiences where it's, you can't do it in weekend, you can do it over months. Marc Gutman 30:56 Yeah, and so much more to a book than just as you mentioned, writing it, you know, there's the promoting and thinking about what you're going to do. That's, that's great advice. And thank you so much for sharing that. This episode brought to you by Wildstory. Wait, isn't that your company? It is. And without the generous support of Wildstory, this show would not be possible. A brand isn't a logo or a tagline, or even your product or a brand is a person's gut feeling about a product service or company. It's what people say about you, when you're not in the room. Wildstory helps progressive founders and savvy marketers build purpose driven brands that connect their business goals with the customers they want to serve. So that both the business and the customer needs are met. This results in crazy, happy, loyal customers that purchase again and again. And this is great for business. If that sounds like something you and your team might want to learn more about, reach out @ www.wildstory.com. And we'd be happy to tell you more. Now back to our show. I'd like you to take a moment and think back and do you have a clear recollection of like when this thing sketchnoting was born? When you look down in your notebook? And you're like, I've got a Sketchnote! Mike Rohde 32:28 I actually do. And it's the funny thing is is like it actually started earlier than I realized, but I just didn't know what it was. And that that actually tracks with so many people that I've met that said, oh, I've been doing sketchnoting for so long. And I just never knew what to call it, which is a great feeling. Right? I was sort of the lucky one that got to name it and the name that stuck. But I do remember that actually, the first sketchnote that I call a Sketchnote is one I did in early 2007. Mike Rohde 32:53 That's really where I think it started, where I intentionally went to a conference in Chicago, from Milwaukee on the train design conference, with a different mindset around note taking up into that point, for probably three, four years, I'd somehow gotten myself to a place where I wrote like everything down and I use the pencil so I could race mistakes. And I had a giant notebook. Like and it was a huge burden I hate I was really good at it. And I hated it. It was the worst. And so early in 2007, I found that I can't take it anymore. I got to do something else. And as a designer, I'm always faced with constraints and restrictions. You know, you can only have this many colors, you got to use that typeface. You got to use my ugly logo, all those kind of things are always in my life, right? So I thought, well, what if I put a if I put some constraints on myself, what would happen if I did that? So I thought, let's now that you know, it's time I didn't think about it. But I kind of did it. George Costanza, remember that episode of George Costanza decides to do everything opposite of what he normally does. And then he like, starts dating a beautiful woman and gets the job of his dreams. You know, all these good things are happening because he's doing the opposite. It felt kind of like that, where I said, Okay, I'd normally carry a big book, what if I carry a pocket book? I usually use a pencil. What if I use a gel pen. So those are sort of my first two decisions. I sort of boxed myself in. On the train. All I had with me was a pocket moleskin that I bought, I don't know, a month before and didn't know what to do that because it was too beautiful. I finally had a purpose for the thing. And then I had these jeetu gel pens if that. Okay, I'm just going to take these two things. I'm going to show up at this conference and see what comes out because I really wasn't sure. And once I sat down, the interesting side effect of these two limitations was I was faced with the fact that I couldn't write everything down that I normally did. And that when I did write stuff down, it couldn't I couldn't erase it because it was ink. So it's sort of put my put my mindset in a different place. My mindset now shifted to I need to really be thinking about what's being said right now. I can't, I can't just write everything down and maybe describe Ever later, I got to think about it. Now I got to really listen closely, I have to really analyze what they're saying, decide if it's worth me putting on the page, because I'm using a pen, and then put it down. And from my perspective, I suddenly had tons of free time, because before I was just writing, writing, writing, writing, I never had time to think twice. So suddenly, for me, I had all this free time to do like, the lettering that I loved, and drawing images that were popping up in my head or sketching something from one of the slides. And I, I really loved it, I got to the end of that day, and I just felt like this is the this is the solution. I have to keep doing this. And I kept looking for opportunities to go to conferences and kept trying it. And that was really that conference in 2007 was really where I think sketchnoting was born for me, intent that, you know, with intention. And when I look back to my college years, when I was in that, remember I said I switched from printing to design. I happened to dig up my old notebooks from those years of after sketchnoting and sort of taken off and said, holy cow, I was doing sketchnoting I was doing this exact same thing in my classes. I was trying. And I was writing and I was doing lettering, and I'm like, how did I forget that? What what happened to me over these last couple years. And I think looking back now I sort of realized that the technology side of me sort of took over I got into palm pilots and powerbook duo's and I you know, I started typing everything. And you know that I just sort of shifted my mind to a different place. So when I went back to analog and books, I just kept following the assumption that I had a keyboard in my hands, and I could write everything instead of really realizing that, you know, that thing I did in college is actually really effective for remembering and studying from. And I ended up not realizing that I would stumble back into what I actually had been doing before. So I didn't call it sketchnoting back then. But it really, when I look back at it, it is what I was doing. So I think I was probably doing it all through college and probably back into high school to some degree in some form or another but never really intentionally, like as a thing like I would call 2007, where I really put all the pieces together and realize, hey, this really works. And I was aware of it. Before I sort of just did it naturally. And accidentally here is where I really did it with intentionality. Marc Gutman 37:20 Yeah. And so if you weren't calling it sketchnoting, at that time, when did you have a name for it? Or were you just like, Hey, this is just the way I do it. Mike Rohde 37:27 That was just the way I did it. I didn't have a name for it. It's kind of funny. Marc Gutman 37:31 And then so you're, you're Mike, you're doing your thing, you are taking notes in your own visual way. And like most great things I have to imagine, I mean, you're doing it for you. I mean, you're not probably thinking, Hey, this is a speaking tour. This is a this is a book like when does it become a thing? Like when do you start to get? Where does it start to become like a real part of your life? Both? I guess it's already become a part of your life from a conference standpoint, but like professionally, like what all of a sudden, do you become like the Sketchnote guy? Mike Rohde 38:03 Well, there's sort of a couple of points along the way. So this is early 2007, when this first thing happened. And I kept on wanting to try it. So I think it was in the summer or the spring or late spring, early summer. And the guys who are on Basecamp. Now that used to be called 37 signals, they decided to do a conference at their at a space that they had access to for like 150 people. And so I said, I'd really like these guys. And I said I'm going to go do this conference. And this would be a good chance to test out this note thing, the sketchnoting thing that I'm playing with and see how it works in this kind of setting. Right. So I went to that event and I did that event and Jim Kou doll who's friends with the base camp, guys. They're also Chicago firm. They're like an ad firm. They do. They're the guys behind the field notes. If you know what field notes are. Marc Gutman 38:49 Yeah, my friend Aaron draplin, who's been on the show has also partnered— Mike Rohde 38:52 Yeah, partnered up with those guys. So they could all partners found my Sketchnotes on Flickr somehow. And they put it on their blog, and then 37 signals whose Basecamp they put it on theirs. And that's that was a really big bump in like awareness, people started being aware of it. And I kept doing it and doing it. And I went to South by Southwest that following spring, I think 2008 and did it and I published it again, at the time I was publishing on Flickr and I use Creative Commons, I intentionally use Creative Commons because at the time, it was pretty popular. And the thing that I liked about it was I retained all my rights to the work. But I could build in usage rights right into the licensing. And what that meant at the time was bloggers, if they found the images compelling. Mike Rohde 39:40 They could just use an embed code and stick it right in their blog, and they wouldn't have to ask me for any permission because I'd already pre given it to them. So that was really important in spreading the concept and that that got back to the South by Southwest leadership. So the next year they said Hey, Mike, if we give you a pass this off by Will you come in sketchnote officially, like spend the whole week and just capture the experience of being here. Like, yeah, sure. So that was my next event. So that was a really important one. Because that's South by Southwest in 2009. I wanted to see like, could I handle this for a whole week, and what would get tired first, my brain or my hands. And it turned out, my brain actually got more tired than my physical body did, just from all the thinking and analyzing, but it was a blast, I really loved it. And that, so that was a really important point, because then that sort of spread it even further. And then it was around 2011, or something like that is when the book stuff happened. in between there, there was a point where I created Sketchnote army, and that was basically this desire to share other people's work, I had been sharing and pumping my own work. And I just felt like, it's not so much fun to be doing this alone. I mean, I started seeing other people doing and it seemed like there's a movement, and maybe I should be the one to capture this in one place. Because it was really hard at the time, around 2008 2009. To find this stuff. You just had to scrounge everywhere. I thought, well, what if what would happen if I invited people to submit their stuff, and we just put it on our website, then you just go to one place, and you could see the stuff. So that was an important moment in 2009. And shortly after that, the book deal came out. And in between there, you know, I did illustration work for the guys that Basecamp for rework, and then later remote. So that was those are also, you know, points that sort of brought awareness to that work, right. So they I think they all sort of added up over time, and it just kept building. And once I wrote the book, you think after doing all that work on the book, and there's a video that we did, that suddenly would take off, and I think it did pretty well. But, you know, nobody knew who I was, other than maybe they saw a book. So it took a little while for it to kick in. But it just kept on growing and growing. I think the idea was that Seth Godin always talks about if the idea is good, you're probably not going to be able to stop it. And I think that's sort of what what happened, right? I sort of solved the problem in my own life, which was I hated taking notes in this old, dreary way. And I found a way that made sense to me. And I figured, well, it solved the problem for me, there's probably a few other people out there that it could help. And it turned out there were a lot of few other people out there, right. So I think that's why it just kept on growing and growing. And I just look back at these certain pivot points where it almost like, you know, hit a point and accelerated, and it just continues to do that. And now, there's tons of people doing it and teaching it and sharing it. And I really like that I love having lots of voices in the space, I think it just verifies that it's a real thing. And it's definitely a benefit to people who adopt it. And it makes you know, being in a community is way more fun than being all alone. So there's lots of benefits to the way that it's worked out over these many years. Marc Gutman 42:48 Yeah, and yeah, and I can even my own experience, it's like, I've been a part of some long term education classes and things like that. And there's just something magical about the Sketchnotes, right, like, people see me doing it, and they're drawn to it. Like, I think everyone wants to do it as well. Like, it's like this universal way of, of communicating. That's just so incredible. And so, when did you coin it? Sketchnoting? What, like, when did you be like, when were you like, this is the name? Mike Rohde 43:16 I think, actually. So it's really funny that all that stuff happened in the first that first 2007 I think the first 2007 was where I realized, it feels like I should call it Sketchnoting. Before that, it's funny, like, up to that point, I was it was like the promo name for it was sketch tunes, like I was it was sort of like was cartoons and sketching. But when I did this event, it was a little less like cartoons and just more like sketching and noting and that word just came to me. So it was right after right at that event, when I just really started calling it Sketchnoting. And I don't know, for whatever reason, that name seemed to make sense to a lot of people and they liked it even over the more established names that existed before like graphic recording, which is kind of a different thing. or visual notetaking like, you know, Sketchnoting just has a little bit more of a branding ring to it, I guess, you know, it's less clunky and it's descriptive and it's concise and it just seems to work so that's that's sort of when it popped up was right at about that same time as the first Sketchnotes kind of appeared in my head. I had a name for them, so I guess it was destined to be. Marc Gutman 44:25 Destined to be, and so is Sketchnoting now your your full time gig, is that what you do for a living? Mike Rohde 44:32 It isn't actually it's something I do on the side. I do pretty steadily on the side. It's kind of my side, my side gig. I primarily I work as a principal designer, doing user experience and service design for large organization. I really like it I like working in a team I like I still have a real love for design in general service design, specifically solving you know the company work for isn't a big industrial company. Mike Rohde 45:01 So there's all kinds of opportunities to apply these ideas. And, you know, visualization opportunities like crazy, because so much stuff is just bad PowerPoint. So the opportunity to do illustrations and Sketchnote and even, you know, doing using my design skills in that space is really, really powerful. And I see lots of upside and opportunity. So a lot of why stay there. And you know, I've got a family as well. So it's good steady work, and it allows me to do this stuff on the side. And so far, it's worked out pretty well. Marc Gutman 45:33 Yeah, not too bad. Not too bad. And so do you have, you know, I know you're probably not like your children, right? You're probably not supposed to talk about your favorite Sketchnote. But do you have a favorite that you just, you look back and you're like, you know what, that's that's the full expression of Mike. That's, that's, that's it. Mike Rohde 45:52 There's a couple of them. But if I if I was forced to pick one, there's one that's in my Flickr feed, that I still love that still has really fun memories for me. And it's the story behind it is that I was doing a work project in the Oakland area in San Francisco, and we ended up going to shape nice, we couldn't get into the main shape, nice. But we got into the cafe, which is like a smaller venue, we got reservations for myself and to work colleagues. And I happen to have my notebook along. So I pulled my notebook out. And after I would finish a course, I would sketch out what it was and built this whole little two page Sketchnote in my notebook. And it just really has like a captures everything like a captures a moment in time a really great meal. With two good friends. If you look at it, it's not really it's all black and white. So there's no color. Mike Rohde 46:40 Some of the stuff that I drew is not really super detailed. Like it's not a standard illustration. It's not a piece of art, it's more of a, it's a Sketchnote. It's like the purest expression of a Sketchnote for me, and I really, every time I see that I'm like, wow, that that really turned out really good. And it was actually it's kind of old. It's like 2012 it was right around the time. Not too not too long, before I started on book work, so I was really fortunate that I had the opportunity and that one among others. There's some other ones that I really like as well. But that if I was forced to pick one, that would be it. Marc Gutman 47:14 All right, paper or iPad, you know, I was really I got your headshot in for the the press kit. And you're standing with an iPad. And you know, I I don't I'm not surprised I'm actually using an iPad right now. And I think it has Oh, by the way, there you are. But as we're talking I'm drawing Mike but um, yeah, I pad or paper or both? Mike Rohde 47:38 I'm a both person I think of I started think like when the iPad Pro and the pencil came out, that was the moment where the iPad became useful to me as a drawing tool. Like I'd used it before, for reading for like, part of my book, I actually typed in an iPad with the keyboard. So I mean, it had been useful to me. But as a illustration tool, a serious illustration tool when the pencil came out, which I think is 2017 or 18. That's when I picked it up. And I saw the value. And I always think of like, you know, I think there's sort of a desire always to like say, Oh, the iPad is a paper killer. It's like, Why does it have to kill it? Like, why can't I use both? Right? Mike Rohde 48:15 You know, you go and do a professional mechanics toolbox, they're not going to say wrench or hammer. Right there, they need both of them. Because in some cases, you need a wrench. In some cases, you need a hammer, sometimes you need a six point wrench because man that bolt is on their heart, and you've shot it with some penetrating oil, and you're gonna have to wail on that thing. And like a adjustable wrench isn't going to work, right. So even within wrenches, there's specific things right. So I think of like the iPad is sort of one tool, and it depends on what I'm doing. Like if I need to do lots of changes. So like client work, or have to go back and modify things or move things or I want the ability to shift things, that is often the best choice. And then there's other times when I want to use paper when I don't want to be potentially distracted, right? The problem with an iPad is you're like a second away from Twitter or Facebook or who knows what, right so and the battery can run out. I mean, they made the batteries last a long time. But if you forgot to charge it, you know, now all of a sudden, you've got a Karen feeding issue, write up a notebook and a pen, you know, it's probably gonna run the other. The other funny thing I always say is like, you know, you know how many pieces of paper and beautiful pens you could buy for the cost of an iPad, like you have a lifetime supply for what you pay for an iPad. Now, that's not to knock the iPad, it is a valuable tool, but it's always again about what's the right what's the right purpose for the tool. And so I look at it as a spectrum all the way from, you know, paper to an iPad and I choose the thing that makes sense, or that I feel is right and I just like having options, I guess. Marc Gutman 49:50 Yeah, and that makes complete sense. But you know, you're talking about paper and, and pen and we were talking right before we recorded about just you know Kind of this there's something magical about pen and paper, you know. And so it was what's your favorite combination the gf got going right now. And if you're anything like me, it changes like mine has changed. Yeah, over time, you know, but but I kind of come back to the same, the same kind of combo more often than that. Mike Rohde 50:17 Well, the last couple years, I've become an ambassador for this company called Norland, it's a German company that makes markers. For graphic recorders. Graphic recording is basically like sketchnoting. Except graphic recorders typically work at large scale, they typically work in front of the room. So everybody watches them while they doing while they're doing it, they have to be very skilled at listening and trying. And these tools are built for those people. But they realize the value of sketchnoting and they're starting to build more tools for Sketchnoters. So they have a variety of tools that I really like the fine one line, which is designed for sketchnoters in mind, have some really nice tools. Mike Rohde 50:53 The thing I like about New Zealand too, is every one of them now is refillable. So you can buy bottles of ink and refill your pens and just keep reusing them. If your nibs get squishy, because they're felted you can pull the nibs out and put new nibs in so they're in effect. They're like lifetime investments, kind of like the tools I was mentioning, right. So those are really great tools and the the colors and the quality of the pigments are really great. So it's not a hard thing to choose. As far as gel pens go, you're exactly right, I started jumping around. For the last little while I've been really into good old Paper Mate flares like you had in junior high school black paper, mate flair and boxes. And I just you know, as they get too mushy, I just go to the next one. And they just have a really nice, there's something about the feel of it that I really like. So that's another one. And then I'm always like checking the latest gel pens and trying stuff out. The latest one that I really liked is Sharpie of all pens has come out with a gel pen. And the one that I stumbled onto is a 1.0. So if you know your thicknesses of pens, it's really wide pen. But I love it because it just lays down this nice black line, it's really juicy. But because it's gel like dries nearly immediately, so I don't have to worry about smearing it so much. So that's sort of my latest gel pen that I'm into. And then as far as books go, I did a Kickstarter campaign with my friend Mike Ciano last year. And we basically designed a sketch notebook that's ideal for sketchnoting. So it's really thick, hundred 60 GSM kind of a thick, almost cardstock like paper and bright white, and a polymer cover that's really tough, and then guides inside, but the paper inside is really fantastic. So actually really, I really use my own notebooks to do sketchnoting with and then for, you know, if I'm doing bullet journaling, which I do every day, I've been using the leuchtturm brand, a bullet bullet journal or the dot grid books. And then there's also no Island is just released one that's a little bit bigger, that I've been using for a while since they sent me one as an ambassador, and I've been testing it, it's been actually really nice. It's a little bit bigger than a typical five and a half by half sheet so I get a little bit more space. So I've been enjoying that. So those are a couple couple things that I've been using pretty regularly and quite enjoy. Marc Gutman 53:11 Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, I have long been electrum fan. And that's been my go to book but I've actually got one of yours on the way and I'm very excited to to try that. Mike Rohde 53:22 I'd love to hear what you think of the paper and all that stuff as a product and branding guy. Marc Gutman 53:26 Yeah, as well as the Newland pens. Yeah, I was hoping that pink I like to make extra colors pink, you know, I like that a lot. And that didn't have it, but it had smooth. So I got some I got some other stuff that I'm very excited about. And like I were talking about before the show started I could just really geek out and try different pens. I like to you know, my goat my go to that I keep coming back to is actually the the pilot Gtech that has that like kind of scratchy feel, and it's a thinner line but like I have less control as I do because I like I'll crosshatch or that's all fill it in. But like or even in your technique, I'll do multiple lines down. But now I also feel like that's a little bit for me was like a more of a beginner pen less control, I can control the ink and, and I do like playing with Federline pens as well Mike Rohde 54:12 it is interesting how like the pen you use can impact the way you draw. So like a real thick pen will sort of produce a certain kind of a, it almost puts you in I'm in a mind state or something. And if you use a thin pen, it's put you in a different mind state. You wouldn't think so. But I've noticed it's subtle, but it actually is there. And it's it's it also sounds like if you and I went into an Office Max or an Office Depot, we'd be the guys standing at the pens the pen aisle like for an hour like look oh look at that one. Marc Gutman 54:41 Never tire I've got like pen cases for like even like like armful of pens. Yeah, I keep finding like pen cases with like pens that I packed for a trip that like then I like sit down I pick up I'm like oh my gosh, like I've got all these pens like I forgot that I even like packed for a trip just in case you know. So, Mike as we as we come to this Our time here. What's next for sketchnoting? Where do you see this going? We're ready. Hope it goes? Mike Rohde 55:07 Well, I'm really excited about a couple things. So one thing that's really excited and I have a little tiny bit to do with, but actually pretty small is it's moving into education. And the reason it's moving into education is because teachers are like totally crazy for sketchnoting. And they're crazy for it because of a couple things. Because the teachers told me this, that they see their students really embracing it, their students are actually much more engaged when they teach, because they're being given the the right to do doodling in class. Mike Rohde 55:41 Now, of course, it's directed toward the subject, but they get to do drawing and doodling and stuff. So they get engagement. And then the, the other benefit that teachers seem to be really excited about is, when they use sketchnoting. In the classroom, the students actually remember a lot more, right. So it becomes this really great tool that gives them the ability to analyze and process which a teacher wants and then remember more. So when they go to a test, they can actually do better. In fact, I have one friend in the Fresno school district in the science department that does something called sketch booking, which uses the sketching technique in it. And I believe she lets the students like as they learn stuff in science they get, they have to draw it in their sketchbook and it gets graded. And then a test time, I believe they have open book testing
In this episode, my good buddy (and fellow sketchnoter) Prof Michael Clayton interviews me about the 8th birthday of The Sketchnote Handbook!We'll talk about 8 years since the book launched, translations into 7 languages, the community it enabled, the teaching opportunities it opened up, and the in-person and online events it inspired.48% OFF The Sketchnote Handbook to celebrate its 8th Birthday! Use code 8YEARS at Peachpit.com. This code is good on print or ebook editions through December 31, 2020.SPONSORED BYThis episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast is brought to you by The Sketchnote Lettering Live Workshop on December 5, 2020.I'll show you how I create my signature lettering and handwriting in this hands-on, 2-hour workshop complete with a Q&A after the session ends.Your $25 ticket includes a video recording of the entire workshop and Q&A so you can come back and review it after the live event is over.Sign up today— there are just 5 days until this live workshop takes place on Saturday, December 5th. Grab your spot today!https://rohdesign.com/workshops/letteringRUNNING ORDERIntro: The Sketchnote Handbook is 8!Origin story of sketchnotingEvolution of sketchnoting - pro typing the processSEED conference - validating the processSXSW interactive - testing the process for a full weekCreative Commons and its impact on sketchnotingVizThink online conferenceSXSW VizNotes 101The Sketchnote Handbook influencers - Patrick Rhone and Von GlitschkaCreating the Sketchnote HandbookThe impact of the book remaining useful for the world and MikeImportance of community in sketchnotingMany voices validate an ideaThis book is a lot like an 8 year old childHow the Sketchnote Workbook captured work in the worldRockstar in a teapotFilling a lead role among leaders in the communityThe importance of the sketchnote nameMike's hope for the future of the Sketchnote HandbookWhat's next?Live online events vs. recorded coursesSketchnote Army Podcast as an extension of the booksWrapupOutroLINKSMichael Clayton on TwitterMichael Clayton on InstagramMike Rohde on TwitterMike Rohde on InstagramThe Sketchnote HandbookThe Sketchnote Handbook GermanThe Sketchnote Handbook FrenchThe Sketchnote Handbook RussianThe Sketchnote Handbook UkrainianThe Sketchnote Handbook ChineseSketchnote Army's first post on November 30, 2009My first Sketchnotes from UX Intensive Chicago 200737signalsBasecampSEED 1 Conference 2007SEED3 Conference 2008Jason FriedCoudal PartnersCarlos SeguraAaron DraplinField NotesSXSW interactive 2008 SketchnotesCreative CommonsSXSW Tote Bag DesignSXSW 2008 SketchnotesSXSW 2009 SketchnotesSXSW 2010 SketchnotesSXSW 2012 SketchnotesSXSW VizNotes 101 Flickr SetMean old second grade teacher slideVizThink VizNotes 101 WebinarDave Gray podcast interview - SE02 / EP01SXSW Visual Note-Taking 101 SlidesPatrick RhoneVon GlitschkaStoryline Conference SketchnotesNikki McDonald podcast interview - SE01 / EP06Illustrating REMOTE 1 of 2Illustrating REMOTE 2 of 2The Sketchnote TypefacePaul SoupisetCraighton BermanEva-Lotta LammBoon ChewLaura Kazan podcast Interview - SE05 / EP07Rob DimeoInternational Sketchnote CampBook: Unleashing the Ideavirus - Seth GodinThe Sketchnote Workbook30 Day Sketchnote Challenge - the book that never wasMike's Sketchnote Lettering Live WorkshopSketchnote Army PodcastFirst episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast with Mauro ToselliThe Sketchnote IdeabookBook: The Bullet Journal Method - Ryder CarrollCREDITSProducer: Alec PulianasTheme music: Jon SchiedermayerSUBSCRIBE ON ITUNESYou can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes.SUPPORT THE PODCASTTo support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's bestselling books. Use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off!
Today's episode was recorded live at the International Sketchnote Camp 2018 in Lisbon, Portugal. Between airplane flyovers, Mike talks with visual career coach Conni about how she has adapted sketchnotes and visual thinking to help coach her clients at Frau und Beruf. RUNNING ORDER Intro Conni's background Integrating sketchnoting and coaching Sketchnotes for planning job options and exploring resources (middle) Sketchnotes for generating ideas Sketchnotes for decision making (quadrant system) Sketchnotes for storytelling (and the career storyline) Sketchnotes as a record (end) The impact of sketchnnotes on Connie's work and on the clients 3 Tips Tools LINKS Conni's website - http://Eybisch-klimpel.de Conni's presentation at ISC18LX - http://eybisch-klimpel.de/?p=366 Conni on Twitter - https://twitter.com/thevisualcoach Conni Instagram - https://twitter.com/connieybisch Conni's work - http://frauundberuf-berlin.de Career coaching - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Career_counseling Quadrant Analysis - http://meetingsift.com/quadrant-analysis/ Kanban board - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board VizThink meetup (Berlin) - http://vizthink.de Tools Sticky notes - https://www.staples.com/sticky+notes/directory_sticky+notes Letter size paper / A4 paper - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_(paper_size) Felt pen: Stablio 68 - https://www.stabilo.com/com/products/coloring-drawing/coloring-felt-tip-pens/stabilo-pen-68/ CamScanner app - https://www.camscanner.com 3 Tips "Waste paper" Christoph Neimann Be playful Copy and remix CREDITS Producer: Jon Schiedermayer Show Notes: Chris Wilson SUPPORT THE PODCAST To support the creation, production and hosting of the Sketchnote Army and Sketchnote Army Podcast, buy one of Mike Rohde's books and use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off! http://rohdesign.com/handbook/ http://rohdesign.com/workbook/ SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES: You can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/sketchnote-army-podcast/id1111996778 PAST PODCAST SEASONS Season 1 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se1 Season 2 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se2 Season 3 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se3 Season 4 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se4 Season 5 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se5
Mike is joined by Doug Neil, former substitute teacher turned sketchnote educator. Hear his journey intro sketchnoting and how uses sketchnoting to teach and clarify ideas, his upcoming sketchnoting courses, and more! SPONSORED BY The Sketchnote Workshop. A full-day hands-on training that expands your team's creative thinking. Mike Rohde guides your team through practical activities to expand your team's confidence - http://sketchnoteworkshop.com SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES: Subscribe to the podcast through iTunes and leave a nice review or rating if you like the show - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/sketchnote-army-podcast/id1111996778 RUNNING ORDER Intro Doug's origin sketchnote superhero origin story Launching a Blog and sketchnoting whatever Getting into Sketchnoting events Moving to teaching sketchnoting and Verbal to Visual Building the platform of Verbal to Visual (and courses) The Next Two courses Tools BONUS TIP: Change your tool if you feel stagnant 3 Tips LINKS Doug Neill's Website - http://Verbaltovisual.com Doug Neill on Twitter - http://twitter.com/douglaspneil/ Sunny Brown's TED talk - https://www.ted.com/talks/sunni_brown Doug's First blog - http://www.thegraphicrecorder.com Seth Godin Sketchnote - https://onbeing.org/blog/sketchnotes-on-seth-godin-interview/ Doug's courses - https://www.verbaltovisual.com/our-courses/ Austin Kleon “show your work” - https://www.amazon.com/Show-Your-Work-Austin-Kleon/dp/076117897X/therohdesignwebs Austin Kleon Episode - https://sketchnotearmy.com/blog/2018/7/16/sketchnote-army-podcast-season-05-episode-02-austin-kleon Project based learning - https://www.edutopia.org/project-based-learning Build an online course with sketchnotes - https://www.verbaltovisual.com/build-a-course/ Learn a Language with Sketchnotes - https://www.verbaltovisual.com/learn-in-public/ Doug's Office Space - https://www.instagram.com/p/BhuRWTrHWV6/ Flow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology) TOOlS Permapake markers from Sakura - https://sakuraofamerica.com/marker-paint-markers Neuland Markers - https://us.neuland.com Sharpie markers - http://www.sharpie.com Pentel Energel 0.7 - http://www.pentel.com/store/energel-nv-gel-pen Index cards - https://www.staples.com/Index-Cards/cat_CL214476 Moleskine notebooks - https://us.moleskine.com/en/ iPad Pro - https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/ Apple Pencil - https://www.apple.com/apple-pencil/ Procreate - https://procreate.art Concepts - https://concepts.tophatch.com/en/ 3 TIPS Define what you want to get out of the experience Set up constraints for yourself Find a way to make it playful! CREDITS Producer: Jon Schiedermayer Show Notes: Chris Wilson SUPPORT THE PODCAST Buy one of Mike Rohde's books and use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off - http://rohdesign.com/books PAST PODCAST SEASON LINKS Season 1 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se1 Season 2 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se2 Season 3 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se3 Season 4 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se4
Steve Silbert is an agile coach and an avid sketchnoter. In this episode Mike and Steve discuss how Steve uses sketchnotes to help facilitate discussions, collaboration and understanding. In the second half of the episode Steve discusses his use of sketchnoting with his religious observances and spiritual reflections. Finally, Steve shares his favorite tools and tips for sketchnoting. SPONSORED BY Sketchnote Icons T-Shirts and Hoodies! ONLY available at Cotton Bureau and ONLY through December 3rd! Choose Vintage Purple, Indigo or Espresso, or a warm, gray zip hoodie! Don't miss this chance to order your Sketchnote Icon gear! http://cottonbureau.com/products/sketchnote-icons/ RUNNING ORDER Intro Steve Silbert's Origin Story Steve's Work with Agile Features that Sketchnotes and Agile Share Collaborative sketching with teams Sketchnote Selfies Collaborating with a Sketchnoting a presentation Sketchnotes and planning talks/presentations Sketchnoting live Sketchnoting the Torah Sketchnoting during Passover and religious observances Sketchnote Thanksgiving? TOOLS Bubm cable case used as a pencil case - https://www.amazon.com/BUBM-Electronics-Accessories-Lightweight-Large-Black/dp/B00OZN8GL8 Chisle point Sharpies - http://www.sharpie.com/sharpie/chisel/SHChiselTurquoiseChisel.html Brush Stroke Sharpies - http://www.sharpie.com/sharpie/brush-tip/SHBrushTipBerryBrush.html#cgid=art&start=4 Fine Tip Neuland Markers - https://eu.neuland.com/markers-more/neuland-markers/fineone-by-neuland-artmarker-brush-nib-single-colours.html Moleskine Notebook Dot Grid - https://us.moleskine.com/classic-notebook-black/p0460 Prismacolor Pens - https://www.prismacolor.com/markers/ Pentel Model 8 - https://www.amazon.com/Pentel-Automatic-Pencil-Assorted-PH158/dp/B001PMJZ3K Pacsafe Intasafe Z250 Anti-Theft Travel Bag, Steve's sketchnoting bag - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MOF6G48/ iPad Pro 10.5 - https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/ Apple Pencil (x2) - https://www.apple.com/apple-pencil/ Procreate for detailed sketchnoting - https://procreate.art/ Paper by FiftyThree for notes- http://fiftythree.com Canva - http://canva.com Tawe - http://www.tawe.co/ Tangle Patterns - https://tanglepatternsgalore.wordpress.com/home/ ISKN with imagink apps - https://www.iskn.co/ TIPS Learn to listen Don't be afraid to fail Don't overthink it LINKS Steve on twitter - https://twitter.com/@stevesilbert Steve's website - http://www.stevesilbert.com/ Steve's sketchnote on the sketchnote army - http://sketchnotearmy.com/blog/2017/6/20/world-of-tanks-by-steve-silbert-stevesilbert.html Agile - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development Trello - https://trello.com Mike's Mini Workshop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Xq4tSQ31A Torah Portion - http://torahportions.org/thisweek/ Passover Seder - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover_Seder Marianne Rady - https://twitter.com/MarianneRady PAST PODCAST SEASON LINKS Season 1 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-season Season 2 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast Season 3 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-1 Special thanks to Christopher Wilson for the show notes - @mrchrisjwilson https://twitter.com/mrchrisjwilson
This week Mike Rohde is joined by Federica Tabone, a Psychologist who uses creative expressions like sketchnoting in her work to help businesses and students develop their soft skills with experiential learning. SPONSORED BY The Sketchnote Army Clothing Collection! A variety of t-shirts and sweatshirts available for sale at Teespring that support Sketchnote Army and look fashionable at the same time! http://sketchnotearmy.com/t-shirts SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES You can subscribe to the podcast through iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/sketchnote-army-podcast/id1111996778 RUNNING ORDER Intro Federica's origin story How Federica uses Sketchnotes in her work Sketchnotes as a visual map of the consultation The Power of holding a marker Showing progress via sketchnotes Sketchnotes for self evaluation Tools Analog over digital 6 Tips How to get started using sketchnotes in a conversation TOOLS Paper Wedge nib markers Neuland markers - https://eu.neuland.com/ Muji Pen - https://www.muji.eu/pages/online.asp?Sec=13 Camscanner App - https://www.camscanner.com/ 3 PHYSICAL TIPS Keep it simple - just use a few lines Stay Big - use large fonts to stress importance Leave some white space - it helps frame icons and words 3 MENTAL TIPS You don't have to be a design, just use sketchnoting in your everyday life Find your style - font, color, Be more familiar with using Sketchnotes in everyday life - in meetings, planning a trip etc. LINKS Federica's website - http://www.federicatabone.com/ Sketchnote sample 1 - http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/1019667/27746065/1510412464527/Coaching+Sketchnote+example+by+F.+Tabone_1.jpg Sketchnote sample 2 - http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/1019667/27746067/1510412502650/Coaching+Sketchnote+example+by+F.+Tabone_2.jpg Federica on Twitter - https://twitter.com/federicatabone PAST PODCAST SEASON LINKS Season 1 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-season Season 2 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast Season 3 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-1 Special thanks to Christopher Wilson for the show notes - @mrchrisjwilson https://twitter.com/mrchrisjwilson
In the third episode of the Sketchnote Army Podcast, I talk to visual thinking practitioner Catherine Madden about her journey to sketchnoting, her love of data visualization, the story behind her two Skillshare classes, and more. Check the show notes for links! Show notes: Catherine Madden's site - http://www.catherinemadden.com Deloitte - http://www2.deloitte.com SCIF - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility Graphic Facilitation - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_facilitation Tableau Conference 2014 Sketchnotes - https://twitter.com/search?q=Catmule%20%23data14&src=typd What a difference a year can make! - http://www.catherinemadden.com/blog/2015/11/17/what-a-difference-a-year-can-make Rise of the DEO - http://riseofthedeo.com/book/ Skillshare: Visual Thinking: Drawing Data to Communicate Ideas - https://www.skillshare.com/classes/business/Visual-Thinking-Drawing-Data-to-Communicate-Ideas/1746654720/ Skillshare: Visual Thinking: How to Create Sketchnotes to Capture and Synthesize Content - https://www.skillshare.com/classes/design/Visual-Thinking-How-to-Create-Sketchnotes-to-Capture-and-Synthesize-Content/1400097522/ iPad Pro 12.9 - http://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/ FiftyThree Paper - http://www.fiftythree.com/paper Apple Pencil - http://www.apple.com/apple-pencil/ FiftyThree Pencil - http://www.fiftythree.com/pencil Adobe Draw - https://www.adobe.com/products/draw.html Concepts - http://concepts.tophatch.com Ray of Light Design - https://rolcreativedesign.wordpress.com Moleskine Smart Writing Set - https://store.moleskine.com/usa/en-US/moleskine-/smart-writing-set/smart-writing-set/p1014/ Catherine on Twitter - https://twitter.com/catmule 5 Things from Catmule - Email Newsletter - http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/home/?u=5b42d6b497fec10822ad76f56&id=aed9d52c00
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