Yale Brothers Podcast

Andrew Zimmern is likely best known to the general public for his Travel Channel shows “Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern” and his Emmy-winning “The Zimmern List” But that's just scratching the surface. He's a renowned chef with bestselling books, media companies, shows, retail products, a retail food line and so much more. On February 13, Zimmern is set to speak at the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College. He's been sober since 1992 and remains active in the recovery and mental health communities. He serves on the boards of several recovery organizations. Roger has been covering series founder and organizer Casey King for many years and on various platforms. We also spoke to him on this podcast. The 2025 Addiction and Recovery Lecture series is installment number 18. Unfortunately, this will be the last. Casey's wrapping things up and will also be retiring next year. For more information about the series, click HERE. We were thrilled to have Chef Zimmern on the show: SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale 3:42 - Greetings and about the song 4:12 - Casey King / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / 18th and final installment / Casey's longstanding goals for the program 5:16 - More about the series / Louis Gossett, Jr. / Craig T. Nelson / Mackenzie Phillips / Dr. Drew Pinsky / Paul Williams / Art Alexakis / Danny Trejo / Tom Arnold 5:55 - Dr. Kevin McCauley (February 20) / Casey King (February 27) / Andrew Zimmern (February 13)  6:34 - Andrew Zimmern introduction 7:20 - Welcome, Chef / Myrtle Beach / Making television around the world / Thoughts about Myrtle Beach presentation 11:10 - Early life in culinary / Cooking in NYC  13:52 - Years of promise / Europe and Asia trips / Talent and culinary proficiency / Leading a double life 15:39 - More NYC / Anne Rosenzweig and Arcadia / Rakel (Thomas Keller and Serge Raoul) / Cooking in Venice / Grand Cafes / Quality and Speed, 1980s  18:26 - Work all day, party all night / Dangerous places / Addiction trajectory 20:24 - Descent into homelessness 23:18 - Asking for help / Final intervention 1992 / Hazelden  25:37 - Success after recovery / The gift of serenety / "Walking through the work" / Emotional and physical sobriety  32:30 - The steps and service work / Being of service / Life on life's terms 38:47 - Mental health and mental health awareness / C-Cap / Anxiety and Depression in culinary / Talking to others  40:06 - Empathy in the workplace / Co-regulation / Listening  27:26 - Final thoughts / Practicing solutions / Work-in-progress / Call one person / The importance of asking for help Resources:  Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline: 1-844-289-0879  Alcoholics Anonymous: www.aa.org 

The twins discuss Chris' recent songwriting efforts, their recent show at House of Blues Myrtle Beach, trips to New York and Aruba, books, an author friend and so much more - and Chris was on a roll with riffing and wordplay. This episode is everything you'd expect, and less.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Song snippet by Chris Yale - "Blackmailed" 1:03 - Greetings and about the snippet. Chris' recent songwriting efforts.  2:38 - Recent show on The Deck at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Shout out to our friend Amy White for the booking and Erik Davey for sound production / David Gilmour Luck and Strange Tour t-shirts from our Bill Becker / More about Gilmour tour 5:35 - Roger's trip to New York - Brooklyn and Sleepy Hollow / South Slope / Hartley's Irish Pub / Hanging with daughter Taylor and her beau, Seán / All-you-can-eat mussels / Read about the trip on Roger's BLOG. 6:30 - Chris' new wordplay: "BoSeán" / More about NY trip / Our friend Evan Rochon at Daniel Murphy High School Los Angeles / Sacred Heart High School Los Angeles 10:00 - Listening to The Stones' "Some Girls" while stoned in the 1970s. / Weed, social awkwardness and anxiety 11:33 - "Statute of limitations" with parents / Sinning / "God will punish you." / Jesus took the punishment / Parental guilt / "Little Me and Big Me" 14:24 - Lilith / Lillith Fair / Indigo Girls / Sarah McLachlan / Paula Cole Band - "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" / Mary Gauthier 16:00 - Chris didn't pick up a South African guy's pictures from Fotomat. 17:17 - More New York Trip / Irvington / Tarrytown / Sleepy Hollow Cemetery / Old Dutch Church / Grand Central at rush hour / Hessians / Subway at rush hour / "Billy on the Street"  20:45 - Chris' trip to Aruba / TAA Show (Tobacconists' Association of America) / Cigar industry 22:32 - "The Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren / Mom's handwriting / "Bowie at 75" by Martin Popoff / Meeting Bowie 25:17 - Decluttering / "It's All Too Much: An Easy Plan for Living a Richer Life with Less Stuff" by Peter Walsh  26:12 - Wayne C. Dees, "Altered Perceptions" book and film / Roger's friendship with Dees / Roger's review of the book 28:25 - Chris went for the low-hanging fruit and started in with the "CDs" reference - IYKYK - Stop it, Chris.  30:01 - Chris' production problems with ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Fast-talking / Latency / Clipped like Tyne Daly 31:20 - Parting shots / Concrete Blonde vs. Four Non Blondes / More Lilith / Bebe Neuwirth / Jane Friedman is not Jill Abramson / Vocal fry

The twins return and quickly go down the rabbit hole - talking about everything from songwriting to recording, performing live, taking proper naps, Jesus and the cosmos, decluttering and so much more - including a song recorded eons ago in Hollywood. SHOW NOTES: NOTE: This podcast episode is dedicated to the memory of our dear friend, Kathy DiGiacomo. You are irreplaceable and will remain in our hearts always. 0:00 - "Mine Again" by Roger Yale - Recorded at Paramount Recording Studios Hollywood, 1983. 3:47 - Greetings and about the song / Steve Kobashigawa / Nick Walusko aka Nicky Wonder (RIP) / 50th Anniversary Tour - "Pet Sounds" / Beach Boys Fan Club and Brian Wilson tribute to Nick / The Wondermints / Nick's work with Brian Wilson and Beach Boys backup band / Chris' adventures with Nick  8:07 - Chris alone at the house / Early waking / Proper sleep / Quiet time 9:38 - Off-season in Myrtle Beach / Growth in Myrtle Beach / Jobs / Myrtle beach as a TECH HUB 10:52 - Tommy James' open tuning / Irving Berlin's piano with transpose lever / Roger's transpose button / "Tin Pan Alley Twins" - Elton John "Bitter Fingers" 12:15 - Sound system dialed-in at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Roger's grandson at LuLu's - BLOG POST 14:20 - Roger's song ideas / snippets / Chris' songwriting / "Songwriter" movie with Willie Nelson / "Ishtar" 15:44 - "Down and Out in Paradise: The Life of Anthony Bourdain" by Charles Leerhsen / Asia Argento / "Unrequited Infatuations" by Stevie Van Zandt / More van Zandt / Apartheid / Sun City / South African Relatives 17:35 - Colonialists / Imperialists / Greed  18:19 - Band punctuation/grammar - "is" vs. "are" 18:40 - Roger's decluttering project / The ceasless vacuuming by Roger's upstairs neighbor / Close miking / Hoarding tendencies / Chris wiped his old iMac / Remote storage / Bearded Clam in "Family Guy" 21:55 - On napping / getting things done / Cleanup panic / Paul Rankin's figgy jam / Homemade pasta 23:50 - More about "Mine Again" / Roger Dollarhide / Alto Sax 24:30 - Henry Cutrona / The Hiding Place church in Los Angeles, 1980s / Dad rebuking Satan / "Shout at the Devil" Motley Crue / Christianity and cosmic matters / Carlos Castaneda / Chris: "Jesus is my sensei" / Danse Macabre / "Dance of Death" on the gallows

The twins are back -ruminating about turning 61, discussing recording gear and software, computers and e-bikes. That's just the beginning. There's also their work at a well-known cigar shop in Myrtle Beach, recent concerts, reads, gigs and so much more - including a gem from the musical archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale 3:40 - Greetings / July 4th Fireworks / About the song and Chris' album, "Well Enough Alone" 4:37 - On turning 61 5:09 - Chris' upgrade to Logic Pro 11 / New used iMac (2019) / Old Apogee Duet / Apple Loops 6:20 - "He had to be shown" / AA Big Book / "The Beer Experiment" / "The Milk Experiment"  7:22 - Chris' and Betsy's new KBO e-bikes /  Hoop skirts and step-throughs 8:54 - Chris at home without supervision 9:25 - "The Season" is back in Myrtle Beach / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / Tinder Box memories 1970s and 1980s / Roger's first imported cigar - Macanudo Portofino / Chris' first imported cigar - Macanudo Baron de Rothschild / Domestic cigars 12:03 - Cigar snobs / $60 cigar versus a $12 cigar / Diminishing returns / $100 shots / Blowhards / Roger's take on cigar blends and aging  14:05 - "Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F" streaming / Hollywood exteriors / "Lucifer" series - Sunset Tower on Sunset Strip 15:06 - The Rolling Stones in Atlanta / Mercedes Benz Stadium / Chuck Leavell / Steve Jordan / Edify yourself / Darryl Jones / Wyman, lately  17:37 - "Stevie Van Zandt: Disciple" documentary / The duster and the bandana / Paul Stanley-ish? / Chris Lord-Alge  19:53 - Cubase / 64-gig memory on Chris' iMac / ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Logic Pro  21:00 - Roger's writing efforts / Post and Courier Myrtle Beach / Georgetown Times / Charles Perry / Roger's work with Grand Strand Magazine  21:39 - Queen sells music for $1.2 billion  22:05 -LuLu's North Myrtle Beach gigs 23:04 - Intracoastal Waterway / Bird Island / Sick Stooges / Brandon Toms / Freedom Boat Club 25:05 - Roger hits 10 years of sobriety / Getting stuff done 24:40 - "Turning Pro" by Steven Pressfield / Lao Tzu versus Sun Tzu / "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand / "A Tramp Across the Continent" by Charles Fletcher Lummis  27:03 - Parting shots / Our jobs at Tinder Box / Chris' slow internet / Chris' grandkids 

In this episode, The Yale Brothers once again cover the waterfront - from The Grateful Dead to Ian Whitcomb, Gigs in Myrtle Beach to tripping at recording sessions, Roger's newspaper work to walking around Hollywood in the seventies and eighties. It's all that and more, including a musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Strange Fascination" by Chris Yale 4:02 - Greetings and about the song /The call of the flesh / Sobriety / Second lineup of their band, Rogue Alley 6:42 - Noel Coward performs "Let's Do It (Let's Fall In Love)" in Las Vegas 7:14 - Myrtle Beach is getting busy again / Spring break / Underage booze and tobacco / Chris mistaken for a street hustler in Glendale, CA, 1985 8:23 - "Rough Trade" by Ian Whitcomb / Tripping balls at a Whitcomb recording session / Ronnie Barron / Dr. John 9:22 - Jerry Garcia spiked the coffee / Joe Smith / Early Dead documentary efforts 10:23 - "Long Strange Trip" docuseries / Workingman's Dead recording process / "Casey Jones" and "Uncle John's Band" / Roger's cover feature about Scott Mann, WAVE 104.1 Myrtle Beach / More about Scott Mann / More Dead 12:35 - The outdated P.A. / Roger's solo gig at Dirty Myrtle Wing Company - Bike Night rained out 16:43 - Upcoming Yale Brothers gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach  17:03 - Roger's latest story for The Post and Courier Myrtle Beach appeared in The Post and Courier Charleston / History of The Post and Courier 17:58 - More about Dirty Myrtle Wing Company 19:24 - Chris without adult supervision 20:06 - Chris' guitar string issues resolved on his PRS guitar / Dave Matthews / South African heritage / "Desiderata"  22:29 - Main Character Syndrome / Solipsism / Living in a movie 23:30 - Friend Daniel Alexander's gigs at Miceli's Hollywood / North Las Palmas Avenue, Hollywood / Drinking at Miceli's / "This Is Spinal Tap" at The Egyptian Theatre Hollywood / The Gold Cup Hollywood / Jackson Browne and Daryl Hannah / Newsstands on Las Palmas and Cahuenge Boulevard  26:33 - Stopping at Del Taco in San Bernardino / Dick Naugle / Naugle's  27:11 - Walking around Hollywood between La Brea Avenue and Highland Avenue - Franklin Avenue to Sunset Blvd / Driving the freeways / Close calls and dropping a bike 29:36 - "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1966-2016" by Kenneth Womack / "Pity the Reader: On Writing With Style" by Kurt Vonnegut and Suzanne McConnell  31:28 - Aerosmith show reseheduled for October / Steven Tyler larynx / Rolling Stones in June  32:12 - Benzedrine inhaler  32:34 - Chris' new studio monitors - Kali Audio LP6 Version 2 / Dip switch 34:55 - Parting shots / Chris' beard / Pizza for days / Iran strikes Israel / End times sandwich board / Argent

From recording in an iconic L.A. studio back in the day to upcoming gigs in Myrtle Beach - from books, music and a wonderful streaming series to shooting the Rogue Alley video (also back in the day) - from food to Bob Dylan and Bebe Neuwirth - the twins wonder how they manage to keep it all together. Also: Another musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "End of the Line" by Chris Yale - 1984 3:29 - Greetings - Happy St. Patrick's Day / About the song / Paramount Recording Studios / Roger Dollarhide / Kepex noise gate 4:59 - More Dollarhide / Motown / Gwen Gordy / Recording at Paramount / Bobby Womack / Blow / Mary Wells or Mary Wilson / Billy Preston / Korg Poly-61 / Bill Withers' DAT machine  7:08 - Dee's Nuts brand 7:49 - Bad lamb / More bone than meat / New York Prime / Ruth's Chris / Capriccio Myrtle Beach / Filet Marsala / Guy Smith 11:00 - Shari Lewis odering lamb chops / "Lamb Chop's Play Along " Roger's twins 11:58 - Stan Hutchinson - RIP 12:24 - Upcoming Bob Dylan show / No phones allowed / Yondr Bag 14:28 - Previous Dylan shows / G.E. Smith / Dylan and Willie Nelson in Myrtle Beach  15:00 - Chris still sounds like Bebe Neuwirth or Antoni Porowski  15:24 - Lilith / Mary Magdalene / Tom Petty and Bob Dylan at Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa Mesa - Roger thought it was Irvine Meadows  16:02 - Billy Squier at Irvine Meadows / "Rock Me Tonite" video / Dave Slusher  17:16 - "City of Pain" video - Rogue Alley / Dancer auditions / FM Station / Fontana / Kaiser Steel Mill / Terminator 2: Judgment Day  18:42 - High in the sky / Pie-eyed in the sky 20:27 - Upcoming shows at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Piano elbow progress report / Left-handed practice / Backing tracks / 2 Live Crew / University of Miami glory days 22:18 - "The Chosen" series / Way cooler Jesus / "Jesus Revolution" / Noel Coward as Jesus? / Roger's Noel Coward project / Crowdfunding "The Chosen" 26:55 - Crown Theatre Fayetteville, N.C. / Crown Complex 27:45 - Oliver Sacks, "Hallucinations" / Little Free Library / "Awakenings" / Leonardo Da Vinci biography by Walter Isaacson / "The Coddling of the American Mind" / Taking notes on Kindle / Chat GPT 32:16 - Ron Miller / Motown / "I've Never Been to Me" - Charlene / "For Once In My Life" - Stevie Wonder  33:17 - Parting shots / More hallucinations / Crows / Squirrels / Language / Jezebel / "My Life In the Bush of Ghosts" - Brian Eno and David Byrne   

Is 60 the new 40? Is Chris too old to look like Jesus? Remember the patch on Julia Child's blouse?  Of course, the twins go down rabbit holes in this eipsode - and it's probably Roger's fault. From rock video shoots to Bible difficulties, Pete Townshend to L.A. Guns, Depeche Mode to W.A.S.P, the banter continues into books, pipes and tobacco, streaming television and more - including a musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Salieri" by Chris Yale 4:07 - Greetings and about the song / "Amadeus" / "Rock Spock" aka Peder Rudling / GarageBand / Logic Pro  6:26 - Myrtle Beach versus Carolina Forest / Bible Difficulties / "Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties" by Gleason Archer / God and John Cena: "You Can't See Me" 7;48 - Old Testament rules and regulations / New Testament / Opposition to Jesus by "religious" people / Man-made religion / Truth to power 9:02 - "The Chosen" series / "Julia"  series / Julia Child / "Hazel" Shirley Booth / It's not Alice Brady, dumbass / Julia's "L'Ecole des Trois Gourmandes" patch 10:12 - Pete Townshend album, "Scoop"  10:52 - Is 60 the new 40? / Blood pressure / Drinking 12:42 - Roger's solo gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Allen & Heath ZED-12FX  14:04 - "Rehab is for quitters" and "meetings are for alcoholics" / Songwriting challenge / Zoom LiveTrak L-8 for multitracking and as an audio interface 15:57 - Chris' encounter with Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode at Spotlight Tattoo in Hollywood 17:10 - Chris is too old to look like Jesus / Other biblical figures / Walt Whitman / "Song of Myself" / "I Sing the Body Electric" / "Fame" movie  18:21 - L.A. Guns / Kelly Nickels / Sass Jordan video shoot - "Make You a Believer" / John Corabi / Jim Alden 20:00 - Chris Holmes / W.A.S.P. / "Mean Man" / "The Decline of Western Civilization" / Control freaks / More about W.A.S.P / Blackie Lawless / Rogue Alley - attempts to get signed / Tromping around the Sunset Strip / "Sunset Strip" documentary 26:52 - "The Coddling of the American Mind" / Safetyism  26:52 - Chris' pipe collection / Mississippi River barrel-aged pipe tobacco / "Ready Rubbed" / Edgeworth Ready Rubbed 28:22 - Staggering growth in Myrtle Beach  28:39 - More about "Julia" and "The Chosen" / "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1966-2016" by Kenneth Womack / "Green Lights" by Matthew McConaughey / Bebe Neuwirth / Jill Abramson / Vocal fry / Fry Baby / Cry Baby / Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb 31:26 - Roger's "piano elbow" / Little strap-on / Chris' shoulder / Stretching / Old man noises  33:36 - Parting shots / Cidny Bullens in Lefsetz Letter / "TransElectric: My Life as a Cosmic Rock Star"

The twins return with a full dance card, covering the waterfront with magic, clowns, music gear and more, including Roger's magazine feature, an awesome Grammys moment, books and Chris' loop experiment. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Chris' "Latin Space Vibe" in Apple Loops/Logic Pro 1:14 - Greetings and about the loop 2:28 - Lefsetz delay / Latency / Roger's interface issues / Humblebrag Insult / Roger's breakfast / Scott Mann, "Really good bread"  4:30 - Luke Combs and Tracy Chapman at Grammys / "Fast Car" / Daniel Sims / Chapman at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum / Human Rights Now! 1988  6:58 - Mike Heidtman aka Seaside Showman aka Captain Mike / Magic Castle / Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College Alumni Cruise  7:35 - Self-serving / Self-service / Appetites 8:26 - Magicians Chris knew from the Magic Castle and the Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / Peter DePaula / Hank Morehouse / Terry Seabrooke / Billy McComb / Lance Burton / Reveen the Impossibilist / Abb Dickson / Maxwell Grant aka Walter B. Gibson / The Shadow / Robert Harbin / Mark Wilson Course in Magic / Yutaka Kikuchi / Fickle Fire / Shimada  11:51 - Roger's ventriloquist dummy / Magic and ventriloquist shows as kids 12:34 - Slow season in Myrtle Beach / Growth in Myrtle Beach / "New" New York / Carolina Forest versus old Myrtle Beach  14:04 - Roger's feature article in Grand Strand Magazine / Casey King / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Dangling participles and feminine articles  16:02 - "Scattershot" by Bernie Taupin / "These Dreams" / "We Built This City" / Grace Slick / "Welcome to the Wrecking Ball" / Mickey Thomas / Irwindale / First-time song memories 19:39 - On being grandparents 21:00 - Chris' studio improvements / California Blonde SWR / Davey Johnstone / Fender Tone Master Princeton  24:19 - "Piano elbow" / Left-hand octave boogie bass  26:05 - George Martin / "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1066-2016 / Keenan Wallace Dunham / Keenan's screenplay, "Rain Falls on Everyone" / "The Crown" / Princess Diana / King Charles and the state of the monarchy / "The Chosen" 27:55 - "George Carlin's American Dream" / "Time Has Come Today" by Harold Bronson / Rhino Records  28:52 - Carlin on pro-life conservatives  30:17 - Parting shots / Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / MXR EQ pedal / Old dude sayings / Trump visit to Myrtle Beach Area / Chris' Spanish lessons

The twins were freezing their asses off in Myrtle Beach. That's not right. They return with a trip down the usual rabbit holes - their lives at the Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) in Hollywood, shady characters, tweakers, rockers and celebrities and much more - including books, Myrtle Beach, music and a musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Only a Fool" By Chris Yale / Performed by Rogue Alley 4:25 - Greetings / Roger's missing gig bag / About the song / KISS 6:43 - Freezing in "Sunny" Myrtle Beach / Roger's "Don't Be a Dick" hat / Step away from the acid flashbacks / Around the world and back into your head / Seeing sounds 9:17 - Tom Arnold on Episode 83 / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Planet Hollywood Myrtle Beach / Hollywood Wax Museum / Madame Tussaud / Madame Blavatsky / Theosophy / Joe Maher  12:32 - Exteriors of Hollywood / The memory versus the place / "Cosmic AI" 14:02 - Golden Harmony Singers / LACC / Wes Abbott / Chris' cinema classes / Dr. Richards / Dr. Tom Stempel / Frau Dr. Ulrich / Chris' documentary / Luis Buñuel (not Jacques)  16:03 - Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / Dad's hotel management style / Reservation nightmares / Working while 'shrooming  18:41 - Tweakers at the Magic Hotel / Shady characters / "Dusty Williams" / Hank Williams Jr. / Les McKeown / Old pillhead couple / More tweakers / Black Randy and the Metrosquad 21:29 - Rapid-fire name-dropping - like Speed Dating / Richard Herd / Stuart Damon / Ann B. Davis / Robert Morse / Daniel Stern / "Breaking Away" / Drunk Rock Hudson / "On the 20th Century" / Yul Brynner / Joe Maher / Chevy Chase / Kim Stanley / "The Right Stuff" / Noel Coward's "Red Peppers" / Tom Behringer / Frank Infante / Deborah Harry / Blondie / Peter Gallagher / "The Idolmaker" / Les McKeown / Bay City Rollers / Quentin Crisp / "The Naked Civil Servant" / John Hurt / Westwood Playhouse / Jeff Daniels  29:10 - The need for exercise / Cleanse / "Colon Blow" SNL / "Bootie bump" / Straight Edge  31:32 - Chris' belly dancer crush  33:21 - Slow time in Myrtle Beach / Bernie Taupin book, "Scattershot" / Bruce Springsteen autobiography, "Born to Run" / R.C. Sproul, "The Holiness of God" / George Martin biography, "Sound Pictures" / Bag of books / "Green Lights" by Matthew McConaughey / Ed Mylett / Rainn Wilson, "Soul Boom" / Baha'i / I be high / "Baha'isexual"  36:11 - Upcoming gig at Lulu's North Myrtle Beach / Chris' new hard-sided gig case  36:52 - Help our friend Adam Holt if you can. His GoFudMe campaign is HERE. 38:36 - Parting shots

On January 25, actor, writer and comedian Tom Arnold kicks of the 17th installment of the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College in Conway, South Carolina - just up the road from Myrtle Beach.  The series will run on consecutive Thursdays through February 15, If you are a certain age like we are, you'll remember Tom from his work on the long-running ABC sitcom Roseanne – or that he was once married to the show's star, Roseanne Barr. And who can forget him opposite Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies – or the hilarious restroom scene in Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery. But he cut his teeth on standup, which he still performs, and has appeared in scores of films and television shows over more than three decades. He's also a single parent of a son and daughter. Tom is also in recovery – and has been very open about his experience with addiction, relapse, child sexual abuse and a series of health scares over the years.  But he's arguably in the best shape of his life now. In 2008, HGTC physics professor Casey King founded and launched Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series – a popular event that has included a growing “Who's Who” of featured celebrity speakers – from actors to rock stars to medical professionals and many more. The series also features presentations and panels including college students, recovery advocates and spokespersons from local recovery groups, rounding out an event that shines as a beacon of hope for those still struggling with addiction and a lamp on the path of those on their recovery journeys. A big thank you to Casey for putting us in touch with Tom.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Rise Above It" By Chris Yale  4:49 - Greetings and about the song 5:44 - About the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College 6:29 - About Tom Arnold 7:43 - Welcome, Tom / Myrtle Beach / Planet Hollywood Myrtle Beach / Casey King 8:50 - Tom's plans for Myrtle Beach presentation / Keeping track of time / Gig at Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel / Improv Hollywood gig / Watching other comics / Recovery comedy 11:12 - Tom in FUBAR as Norm Carlson / True Lies / Bone marrow story / University of Iowa / Sperm donation letdown / The corkscrew 17:05 - Moving to L.A. in 1988 / Minneapolis Comedy Competition / Comedy clubs in Minneapolis / Everclear Punch / Comedy Cabaret and other gigs / Meeting Roseanne Barr in Minneapolis in 1983 / Williams Pub 19:37 - More about early relationship with Roseanne / Roseanne HBO Special 1987 / Writing, acting and producing on Roseanne 20:55 - Magic Castle Hollywood / Tom's first apartment in Van Nuys / Living in Los Angeles 22:45 - Burning the boats / Tom's Hollywood experience / All-in on the dream / Ottumwa, Iowa 24:21 - Tom's quick career trajectory 24:38 - Setting up addiction issues long before Hollywood / "Queen of Meth" - Tom's sister, Lori Arnold / Underage drinking / Drinking versus drugs / Stoners versus rednecks / Fights 27:06 - First cocaine use in Minneapolis / Rock venue First Avenue / Purple Rain / Escalating coke use 27:47 - Blow in Hollywood / Roseanne cautions Tom / More about Lori Arnold / "I want everything" / The meth business 30:57 - Roseanne instrumental in getting Tom into proper rehab / Hiding addiction / Benedict Canyon / Moment of clarity / Public perception and the gossip mill / Learning to love yourself / Marrying Roseanne 35:30 - 19 years of sobriety / 2008 motorcycle accident and pain medication / sobriety reset  37:10 - The value of 12-Step Meetings / Recovery community in Hollywood 39:25 - "In recovery" versus "recovered" 40:27 - Tom's fitness journey / Mini-stroke in 2022 / Stroke protocal UCLA Medical Center / Weight loss coach Charles D'Angelo / True Lies weight / Losing 80 pounds / Night eating 47:35 - Benzos and third stint in rehab / Chris Cornell / Matthew Perry  50:47 - Future plans for Tom Arnold / Thoughts on upcoming 65th birthday / Single parenthood and life with his son and daughter / Living in the moment 52:57 - Tom, Arnold - Arnold, Tom 53:28 - Parting shots 

Adam Holt's life would never be the same after, at nine years old, he saw Aerosmith's Joe Perry play a Silver Sparkle Gretsch Duo Jet on cable TV. Flash forward: Adam is a musical renaissance man - a performing songwriter focusing on contemporary Southern rock and blues. He lives near Gulf Shores, Alabama and has been a staple of the live music scene in the region for well over two decades. He's got three albums under his belt along with freestanding singles and other recording projects - and operates his own analog (two-inch tape) recording studio.  The twins enjoy a conversation with Adam about all of this and much more, including two original tracks - one of which has garnered more than a million streams on Spotify. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "The End" by Adam Holt - from the album, Kind of Blues 4:23 - Greetings and about the song / About Adam Holt 6:16 - Welcome, Adam / Admiring his studio on Zoom / Road trip to Memphis / Adam visits The Crossroads in Clarksdale, Miss. / B.B. King Museuum / Robert Johnson gravesite / Muddy Waters birthsite  7:51 - Spin Doctors in Tunica, Miss. / Gold Strike Casino Resort  8:22 - Joe Perry's influence on nine-year-old Adam / Aerosmith "Dude Looks Like a Lady" / Gretsch Duo Jet Silver Sparkle  9:00 - More about "The End" / Recording studio locations and history / Live recording versus multitracking / Recording Kind of Blues / Players on "The End" - Greg DeLuca, bass / Pierre Robinson, drums / Donnie Sundall, Hammond B-3 10:49 - Adam Holt on Spotify / Other projects / Recording at Sun Studio in Memphis / Curry Webber / More about Sun Studio Experience  13:37 - "The End" racked up 1.3 million streams on Spotify so far / Dutch magazine cover feature / Streaming and compensation / Concert ticket pricing / Touring and merch  17:02 - Early music experiences, instruments and education / First guitar at 14: Yamaha electric  18:18 - Goals for next album  18:37 - Highlights from more than two decades in music / Bayfest / Lynyrd Skynrd / Drivin and Cryin 19:43 - 20 years as a performer at Lucy Buffett's LuLu's  21:34 - Booking talent at LuLu's 22:40 - Producing other artists / More about Adam's recording studio / 1964 Gibson Hummingbird / 3M M79 two-inch Tape Machine / Producing Richard Douglas Jensen  29:46 - GAS - Gear Acquisition Syndrome / Gibson SJ 200 / Picker's Paradise / Gigs at Hard Rock Casino, Biloxi / Slot wins / Cash is king 33:30 - Family life / The Dad club 34:43 - Co-writing "Don't Give Up on Me Baby" with wife Jillian.  36:05 - Get your copy of Kind of Blues on limited run 180-gram blue vinyl by visiting www.adamholtmusic.com  39:03 - "Don't Give Up on Me Baby" by Adam Holt (Songwriters: Adam W. Holt / Jillian J. Holt)

The twins discuss Charlotte, N.C., where they both lived at different times.  And as usually happens, they also travel down a primrose path - lighting on topics such as Noel Coward, their acting careers that never happened, chihuahuas, parrots, current reads, perceived reality and more, including a gem from the music archive. (Photo by Brendan Wright Images) SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Matter of Time" by Chris Yale 02:24 - Greetings / "Walk" by Pantera / Dimebag Darrell / Machismo in music 04:08 - Chris' chihuahua, Django / Reese's African grey parrot / "I'll cut your ass" / Chris watching Cocaine, a cockatoo / Preludin / Coke Escovido at The Magic Hotel Hollywood / Sheila E. / Quentin Crisp at The Magic Hotel  08:39 - Spiritual beings having a human experience / Pierre Teilhard de Chardin / reality? / God's dream / Discernment 09:46 - Roger spouts Noel Coward / "The Coward in Me" / Mark Mulkeen  11:27 - Living in Charlotte, N.C. aka "The Queen City" / Matthews, N.C. / Recollections / Partying in Charlotte / Chris meets wife Betsy at Howie's Uptown / Uptown Charlotte / Roger's Tinder Box experience / Eastland Mall / Carolina Place Mall / SouthPark Mall was not fancy back in the day 16:06 - Kerry Collins and the nascent Carolina Panthers / Charlotte layout and roads / Sharon this, Sharon that - Quail this, quail that / Blockbuster Pavilion (now PNC Music Pavilion) 17:00 - Roger playing piano at the bygone Rheinland Haus / Shuttered music venue Double Door Inn / George Mandrapilias  18:42 - Odd encounters in Charlotte / The house party /MDA vs. MDMA 21:38 - We could have been actors, but we wound up here / Ann Wright Agency / Crispin Glover / ABC pilot - The Best of Times / Nicolas Coppola (now Cage) / George Schlatter / Don Mischer 23:32 - Chris' animal babysitting duties 23:51 - Roger's solo gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Allen & Heath Mixer / Roger's current writing work for Post and Courier Myrtle Beach and collaboration with Paul Grimshaw for Grand Strand Magazine 25:16 - Catastrophizing / Kiss "Plaster Caster" 25:49 - Springsteen book, Born to Run / Julia Cameron, The Artist's Way / Brian Tracy, Maximum Achievement / The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul / October Sky film with Jake Gyllenhaal 28:11 - Carmine Ragusa (Eddie Mekka) - "The Big Ragoo" / Preambles / About Chris' song, "Matter of Time"  29:45 - Parting shots / Reality? / Freedom / The cage door is unlocked / Indoctrination    

The twins are thrilled to share digitized audio from a bygone South African radio show called "The Castle Beer Show," written by their father (Carl Yale) and starring Carl and Roger Yale - the original Yale Brothers.  And down the rabbit hole they go, discussing growing up in Hollywood in the 1970s, recent gigs, musical gear then and now and much more - including road trips, friends, concerts, postponed tours, books and music. They suck at fencing and tap dancing.   SHOW NOTES 0:00 - Audio excerpt: "The Castle Beer Show" with Carl and Roger Yale (the original Yale Brothers) / South Africa 4:00 - Greetings and more about "The Castle Beer Show" / Digitizing / LegacyBox 6:25 - Dad and Uncle Roger wanted us to follow in their footsteps, but we wanted to be rock statrs / Pearl drum set / KORG Poly Ensemble P (Univox) / Electric Mistress Flanger / Nadine's Music / Realistic P.A. system (RadioShack) 9:07 - First carvin P.A. / Current Carvin P.A. / Electro-Voice Evolve 50M and 30M / Zoom LiveTrak L-8 10:18 - Fencing lessons at Falcon Studios Hollywood / Ralph Faulkner / Nick Evangelista / Coach Terry Matthews, Daniel Murphy High School / Tap lessons with Al Maines / The lost tap mat 12:24 - Growing up in Hollywood / Copper Penny / Toff's Coffee Shop / Steven Boyd / Jim Brown 14:04 - Roger's teeth 15:36 - More about digitizing project 17:35 - "Celebrate" by Three Dog Night (Is this rock?) 18:34 - New mixer at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Allen and Heath ZED-12FX / Old Bull and Bush Pub Myrtle Beach  19:43 - Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie in Raleigh, N.C. - Freaks on Parade Tour / Is Zombie a nerd? / Crying at shows / "A Chorus Line" / Chris' times in the orchestra pit 22:24 - Steven Tyler's vocal issues / Peace Out Tour postponed 22:40 - Side trip to Durham, N.C. to visit the Duncans / Charles, Dot and Robbie / Durham Bulls Athletic Park / Duke University 24:38 - Chris' new amp: Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb / PRS SEHollowbody II Piezo (Chris kept talking while Rog went to the bathroom) 27:27 - Riffing on Krista Tippett / Kerry Washington 28:36 - "All the Way" with Bryan Cranston / "The Whale" with Brandon Frasier  29:10 - "Born to Run" Springsteen autobiography / "Deliver Me from Nowhere" by Warren Zanes / Springsteen "Nebraska" album / Tascam Portastudio 144 / Susan Orlean's "The Library Book" / "The Power of One More" by Ed Mylett 30:54 - Parting shots 31:43 - More "Castle Beer Show"   

In this episode, the twins welcome singer/songwriter Kristi Jacques.  During the pandemic, Kristi picked up the guitar again after 25 years and began writing and recording. She now has two albums and several freestanding singles under her belt, and she's just getting started.  In 2009, Kristi was diagnosed with pulmonary sarcoidosis, an autoimmune disease that affects many organs and usually goes away on its own, but not in her case.  Join us for a candid conversation with Kristi about all of the above, plus her creative process and collaborations, gear, guitars and three songs from her catalog. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Working On A Dream" by Kristi Jacques 3:07 - Greetings and about Kristi 5:18 - Here's Kristi / About "Working On A Dream" 6:40 - Music production / Tavis Stanley / Art of Dying / Internet-era production / Todd Kerns 7:50 - Growing up in Charleston, S.C. / Music / Spoleto Festival / Fox Music House / Charleston Free Times newspaper  10:15 - Arrival in Myrtle Beach 11:02 - The Diabetes Wellness Council / "Eartha Gets Well"  12:38 - The pandemic / Nutrition degree / Picking up the guitar again / YouTube rabbit hole / Myles Kennedy insired Kristi to get back into music 13:55 - Relearning guitar from Tesla's Dave Rude / Musicianship versus songwriting 14:41 - Project timeline / Songwriting / College of Charleston / Writing lyrics / Elise Testone 16:05 - Songwriting process / Mission Control Studios / Working remotely with Tavis Stanley 16:56 - "Better Late Than Never" by Kristi Jacques / Recording in Nashville / Off the Row Recording Studio  18:30 - Details about new single, "Breaking Down The Walls"  19:01 - "Breaking Down The Walls" by Kristi Jacques 22:08 - Geeking out on gear / Home studio rundown / MacBook Pro / Scarlett Audio Interface / Pro Tools learning curve / "Guitar problem" and Gear Acquisition Syndrome (GAS) / PRS Myles Kennedy signature guitar / Gibson Garage / Epiphone Nancy Wilson Fanatic Nighthawk / Sweetwater Sound 26:21 - The albums: Working On A Dream & Mosaic / freestanding singles / Various styles  27:35 - Pulmonary sarcoidosis diagnosis, 2009 / About the disease / Coping / Recalling Alter Bridge and Sevendust show at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Trip to Richmond for Sevendust show  31:10 - Pulmonary rehab at Conway Medical Center / Preparing for double lung transplant / Waiting list  33:00 - Parting shots 33:51 - About "Shadows Fall" 35:20 - "Shadows Fall" by Kristi Jacques

This episode is dedicated to the memory of a dear friend and incredible musician, Tom Hanlon.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Is That What it Is" by Roger Yale.  4:14 - Greetings and about the song, recorded circa 1988 at Ian Talcroft's Stare Cat Sound, Glendale, CA / Band name at the time was Reflector. 5:02 - Chris discussess the incident that led to the song. 6:21 - Recording with pants on / Jeffrey Toobin / News anchors and U.S. Marines official portraits 7:15 - "Crayon Eaters" / "Grunts" / Roger's grandon eating a crayon - like father, like son 7:38 - RIP Tom Hanlon - friend and musician / Memories of a long friendship / Paul Grimshaw / Paul Grimshaw Band / 1967 Star Sitar / Darien Sahanaja 10:48 - Tony Bennett / Chris' encounter with Tony Bennett at Peggy Lee's House / Mark Mulkeen / The "Clampett Estate" in Bel Air / "Peggy Lee" Rose / The hot tub incident 14:11 - Back-to-back gigs / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Old Bull and Bush Pub / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach  15:46 - Chris sounds like Bebe Neuwirth or Antoni Porowski / "Queer Eye" / Imagining Chris on a "Queer Eye" makeover / Tan France / Jonathan Van Ness 17:27 - Chris' newest guitar - PRS SE Hollowbody II / Piezo and Humbucker pickups / Sweetwater Sound / Chris' anxiety about returning instruments 20:23 - Dumb celebrity songs  21:34 - Roger's upcoming shows on The Deck at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Live painting event with folk artist Ken Pease / Chris mentions Harold Finster 23:17 - "The Power of One More" by Ed Mylett /"Deliver Me from Nowhere: The Making of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska" by Warren Zanes 25:32 - Judgemtal bastards / Art versus schlock  25:19 - Chris opened for David Allan Coe / Gene Simmons sitting alone in a mall in Myrtle Beach / Chris met Paul Stanley in a boot shop on Melrose Ave. in L.A. 26:20 - Leering Gene / Lisa Carletto / Is Paul nicer than Gene? / Is Hall nicer than Oates? / Hall and Oates backstage at House of Blues Myrtle Beach  28:07 - High-functioning introvert / Energy levels in introverts and extroverts after social gatherings 29:27 - Roger's new editor at Post and Courier Myrtle Beach / Charles Perry / My Horry News / Carolina Forest Chronicle / Sun News / Weekly Surge / Loyalties as a freelancer  30:47 - Roger is still trying to understand football / "Take Your Eye off the Ball 2.0" by Pat Kirwan  31:77 - Parting shots / Family in town / Palmetto tree / Palmetto bug  33:49 - "Carolina Moon" by Chris Yale, acoustic performance by Chris in honor of Tom Hanlon, RIP

The twins recall gigs at a bygone Sunset Strip venue and continue down a conversational hallway with many doors: From tape format conversion, friends, misheard lyrics and turning 60 - to electric guitars, family, gigs, Hollywood and much more. Chris unearthed a live recording from said bygone venue. SHOW NOTES:  0:00 - "Just No Way" by Chris Yale - live at The Central (now The Viper Room), Hollywood. Performed by Kirby and the Gators circa 1987. 4:21 - Greetings and more about the song. Ian Talcroft, guitar / The Central / The Viper Room / Filthy McNasty's / Filthy McNasty / FM Station 5:24 - The tape archive / Format conversions and digitizing 6:00 - Misheard lyrics / Cher, "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" / More about "Just No Way" / "There was no way" Family Guy clip.  8:30 - Staring down 60 / Family birthday plans / Elton 60 / Elton John current tour 9:55 - Endgame: Stay healthy / Mobility and stretching / Phantom of the Paradise / Diet / High colonic / Roger's sugar incident / McDonald's / Sodium / Annual physicals / Weight loss 14:24 - More about family birthday plans / Chris' chihuahuas 16:45 - Our friend Adam Holt / More about digitizing 17:37 - Chris' electric guitar playing / Sire Larry Carlton T-7 / Yamaha Pacifica / Marcus Miller bass / Indonesian guitars / 1978 Telecaster / Seymour Duncan Hot Rail Humbucker pickup / Rick James "Bustin' Out"  19:45 - Roger's bare-bones piano (Alesis Prestige Artist) / Upcoming gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach  20:25 - Roger's solo gig at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Indigo Room / VIP Club / Our friend Carl McClain / P.A. setup / More about VIP Club 22:03 - Hanging with Anderson (Roger's grandson) / Swim session / Anderson at Roger's place / Piano books for Anderson 23:34 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach  23:44 - Procrastination and songwriting / "On the air" / Left-handed boogie piano / Gigs 24:47 - "Daisy Jones and the Six" (the book) / Hollywood / Exteriors in "Twins" / "Deliver Me From Nowhere" book about Springsteen's "Nebraska" / Tascam Portastudio 144 / Eurythmics 26:58 - Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / Logic Pro / Cubase / "Scataolgic Pro" / Sean Delaney / Skatt Brothers / KISS incognito, 1970s 28:42 - "Take Your Eye Off the Ball 2.0" book / The Yale Brothers on football / Scott Mann / Football diagrams 30:25 - Our friend Daniel Alexander's piano gig at Miceli's Hollywood / Getting hammered at Miceli's / "This Is Spinal Tap" at The Egyptian Theatre Hollywood / Newsstands on Las Palmas and Cahuenga in Hollywood 31:35 - Full-body merkin / Fur sweater / "His and Hirsute" 

The twins are getting the hang of recording remotely with the same equipment. Their conversation starts with Hollywood in the 1970s and detours into the present with a discussion of Roger's new stage piano and Chris' electric guitar work, Roger's visit to an amazing property devoted to conservation, education and research, current reading and viewing and much more - including a musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "What Might Have Been" - By Chris Yale 3:39 - Greetings / Recording remotely / "I love Jesus but I drink a little" / Ellen DeGeneres / Bono / Duality 6:07 - Newspaper "morgue" at Magic Hotel, 1974 / Exploring vacant rooms / Jeff Daniels let Chris keep his Rolling Stone subscription 7:35 - Piddling around with our papers 8:06 - Roger's new piano / Graded hammer action versus semi-weighted keys on old piano 9:37 - Chris' electric guitar practice / New guitar rack 10:50 - Wrecking Crew documentary / Brian Wilson / Hal Blaine / Tommy Tedesco / Chris' note from Blaine / Blaine's daughter (Michelle Blaine) / Visiting Blaine's house / Hollywood Professional School 13:08 - Just say "know" / Sass Jordan / Michael Benner, KLOS / Carol Kaye and Gene Simmons / The demise of The Wrecking Crew / Glen Campbell / Jimmy Webb / The Mamas and the Papas / Sonny and Cher 15:45 - "The Wrong Missy" / "The Whale" / Films based on plays 17:03 - Roger's visit to Hobcaw Barony, Georgetown SC / FDR / Churchill / Bernard Baruch / Belle W. Baruch / University of South Carolina / Clemson University 22:10 - "The Gift" by Hafiz / "The School of Life" by Alain de Botton / Krista Tippett 23:10 - Parting shots / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / About "What Might Have Been" / Chris' album Well Enough Alone / Roger's daughter's new drink invention, The "Guin and Tonic," featured at Hartley's Irish Pub in Brooklyn / Edison of alcohol / Palomino, 1970s / Robert Preston   

The twins are back, podcasting from their respective studios - and as usual going down rabbit holes. Lots about the recording gear they are using, misheard lyrics and vocal tics - Chris' solo concertgoing back in the day, Roger's recent trip to see The Wallflowers - current reading and viewing and much more, including a gem from the musical archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Castaway by Chris Yale 4:28 - Greetings / Paraquat Kelley / Castaway Studios Australia / Zoom Livetrak L-8  5:54 - Using the L-8 as a mixer for live sound / Schlepping / Using the L-8 as an audio interface / Zoom Video Communications (not the same Zoom) = Zoom Zoom? 8:25 - Filling in lyrics with our own sounds / Possible spectrum component / Deciphering misheard lyrics - Elton John / Duran Duran / Michael Stipe 10:30 - R.E.M. at the Palladium, Los Angeles / R.E.M. at Beverly Theatre, Los Angeles / Chris' "lone wolf" concertgoing / R.E.M. "Fables of the Reconstruction" Tour / Marcy Playground (not the band) / Minutemen  13:42 - Family in town / Roger was the Putt-Putt biggest loser 14:41 - The Wallflowers in Charleston / Charleston Music Hall / Jakob Dylan / Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson in Myrtle Beach / Tom Petty and Bob Dylan Alone and Together, Irvine, California / Tom Petty at Greek Theatre, Los Angeles 16:57 - Wallflower songs / Three Marlenas, The Only Difference, One Headlight, 6th Avenue Heartache, Everybody Out of the Water 17:37 - Leon Russell at Charleston Music Hall 18:00 - Chris comes "out of retirement" / Upcoming show at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Game face / Doing the work / "Do the Work" by Steven Pressfield / "Idea men" 19:19 - John Hiatt biography / Brian Tracy, "6 Essentials to Start & Succeed in Your Own Business" / We are the product 20:10 - Matthew McConaughey, "Green Lights" / Interview with Ed Mylett 21:18 - "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" final season / Rachel Brosnahan / Tony Shalhoub / Ensemble 22:04 - Bitches with glitches 22:18 - Chris and electric guitar / SRA Reading Lab 23:13 - Roger's trip to Guitar Center / Digital pianos / Alesis Prestige Artist / Nord / PRS guitars / Tobacco Sunburst Gibson Les Paul / Acoustic guitar room 26:01 - Parting shots / Thumber bummer / Scott Mann / Scott Mann's Blues Hangover / Scott Mann's Headshop / Scott Mann on Yale Brothers Podcast    

The twins try their hands once again at remote recording from their respective studios with the identical gear - and talk about everything from the recent heavy snow in the California mountains and insane concert ticket pricing to the Dominican Republic, KISS, Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie - and much more, icluding a musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Go" by Chris Yale 3:25 - Greetings / Remote session via Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / About the song and Chris' album (Well Enough Alone, 2007) / Mastering engineer Ronnie Morris (RIP) / Yamaha AW2816 6:02 - Magic Hotel / Dad used to disappear 7:17 - More about Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / Mixing "in the box" / "Fix it in post" / "Flying it into Logic Pro  8:33 - "Don't touch it - it may have some disease." / Budding forensic scientist 9:33 - Heavy snow in Crestline, Ca. / Mark Mulkeen / Goodwin and Son's Market / Goodwin twins / First Communion / Secretly Married  11:48 - KISS at Madison Square Garden TICKET FIASCO / No love for the working man / KISS Army / KISS in Raleigh 14:09 - Rob Zombie and Alice Cooper in Raleigh / Freaks on Parade Tour / Filter / Ministry 15:11 - Is Alice Cooper a rock star? / "Elected" / "Clones" / Rock 'n' Roll Wayne Newton / "School's Out" / "No More Mr. Nice Guy" 17:28 - Daily routines / Morning routines / Interruptions / Jounaling / "Gin and Juice" 19:03 - Chris' upcoming Dominican Republic trip / Travel prep / Anxiety / Language barrier / Punta Cana and Casa de Campo / Learning Spanish? / Pimsleur Spanish course / Afrikaans / More about routines and interruptions  22:08 - A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole / Picaresque novel / Author suicide / Posthumous publication and Pulitzer Prize  23:28 - Chris' computer issues / iMac  27:10 - Parting shots / Grandfather life         

The twins are back - and down the rabbit hole they go, talking about everything from quirky South African phrases and spy ballons, music gear and grandsons, Todd Bridges' recent visit to Myrtle Beach and much more - including a new musical snippet from Chris. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Way Back Home" by Chris Yale - Snippet 2:03 - Greetings and about the song / Roland V-Drums / EZdrummer 3:15 - "UZZUT" explained / South African expressions 4:38 - Flaccid balloon / Chris saw Chinese spy balloon shot down in Myrtle Beach / Richard Branson's balloon adventures / Balloon Boy Hoax / More about Chinese balloon 7:23 - Roger's baby grandon, Anderson / The Grandfather Club 8:40 - Roger's solo gigs at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Recent aborted gig / Barefoot Landing 10:18 - Chris' guitar adventures / Acoustic Fly Rig / Electric Fly Rig / California Blonde amp 11:28 - Chris on a roll / Anxiety? 11:58 - More Chinese balloon / Surveillance is a two-way street 13:00 - Roger's free associations: Bela Fleck / The Smithereens / Dave Matthews' Satellite" 13:30 - Todd Bridges / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Chris' memories of Todd Bridges at Hollywood Professional School / Todd's recovery story / Killing Willis book / Casey King / Read Roger's blog post HERE. 15:50 - Chris and Logic Pro / Howard Jones versus Howard Johnson's / Nostalgia / Misophonia 17:53 - More about Todd Bridges 19:47 - The slow season in Myrtle Beach 20:34 - The Master Key System by Charles F. Haanel / Steven Tyler memoir / American Colonies by Alan Taylor / Penguin Press / Burgess Meredith as The Penguin 22:22 - Mike Nichols documentary / The White Lotus / Aubrey Plaza / Emily the Criminal 24:25 - Sleep hangover 24:46 - Parting shots / Chris' gear / Fearless moral inventory / Government Mule / Lekker Eats in Myrtle Beach

The twins run the gamut from songwriting to music gear, Elton John to the Miami Dolphins, embarrassing moments to books, movies, Lemmy and much more - including a musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "The Wind" by Chris Yale 3:32 - Greetings / 1972 chatter / New For '72 LP / Miami Dolphins 4:50 - About "The Wind" / Chris' songwriting / Dark lyrics / Uncle Roger was superstitious 6:17 - Behringer Tube Amp Modeler / California Blonde amp / Davey Johnstone / Reticular Activating System / FOMO vs. FOMP 8:07 - Elton John at Dodger Stadium 9:28 - Thanksgiving at the Yale homes 10:35 - Holiday sides / The Robotooth blunder / Robot-Coupe 14:34 - Embarrassing little moments 15:57 - The need to be understood / Read Roger's blog post HERE 16:55 - "The Critic's Crypt" 18:04 - Press passes / Bloggers 18:42 - Terry Allen / Bob Lefsetz / Allen's songs "Amarillo Highway" and "Gimme a Ride to Heaven Boy" 20:47 - Little Free Library / Robert Lowell Notebook / The Elements of Style 21:42 - Christmas in retail / Where's Jesus? / Black Friday / Hymns versus hers / "Hymn to Her" / Chrissie Hynde / Pretenders / Lemmy 24:10 - Elvis biopic = depressing 25:38 - Touring and merch 26:01 - Parting shots / Don't be conformed / Subtleties of propaganda

In this episode, the twins run the gamut from MGM musicals to The Great Smoky Mountains, Jerry Lee Lewis to W. Kamau Bell, Sigmund Freud to Bob Dylan - and much more, including a musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Tighter" by Doug McKelley - Performed by Chris Yale, 2009 2:40 - Greetings and about the song 3:41 - Hanging with Chris' cats, Stevie and Kevin 5:23 - Undercover Introvert 6:03 - Roger tries a new joke on Chris / The problem with "get it?" / Standup 7:53 - Chris' throat issues/ Sigmund Freud oral cancer / Freud and cocaine 9:44 - Trips to the Vagabond Theatre with Dad, Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles / MGM musicals / The Bijou Theatre on Hollywood Boulevard / C.C. Brown's / Swensen's / David Lee Bynum 11:30 - More MGM musicals / "That's Entertainment!" / Meeting Eleanor Powell / Powell's tap shoes at Capezio Hollywood 13:24 - The original Yale Brothers didn't "get" rock 'n' roll / dying onstage versus killing onstage 14:12 - Audio issues with remote recording / ZOOM Livetrak L-8 / DAW / Logic Pro / Presets on L-8 15:54 - Roger's trip to the mountains / Maggie Valley, NC / Elk in Cherokee, NC / Bryson City, NC / Great Smoky Mountains Railroad / Wrecked trains from "The Fugitive" / Dillsboro, NC 17:49 - Gatlinburg, TN aka Myrtle Beach in the Mountains / Pigeon Forge, TN (same thing) / Ripley's Aquarium / Hollywood Wax Museum 19:33 - More David Lee Bynum 20:03 - Show tunes 20:56 - Grandfather and grandfather-to-be ' Kids and colds 22:08 - "The Awkward Thoughts of W. Kamau Bell" / United Shades of America 23:07 - Jerry Lee Lewis documentary, "I Am What I Am" / Chris met him in Myrtle Beach 24:22 - Figuring out cousins 25:19 - More Jerry lee Lewis - "The Devil's Music" / Sun Records 27:17 - More about vacations / Spending money 28:08 - Chris' music gear and accessories 28:34 - Bob Dylan documentary, "No Direction Home" / Pete Seeger's long-neck banjo / Dave Van Ronk / Fred Neil / Oscar Brand (see Fred Berney podcast episode) / Degrees of Dylan separation 29:50 - Parting shots / Retail killed the Christmas spirit / Our souls / Love not sleep 31:39 - Roger checks on Chris' state of mind, and that annoys Chris / "That don't confront me."

Recording remotely, the twins talk about growing up in Coconut Grove, the oldest permanent settlement in the greater Miami area - dredging up memories of their old stomping grounds and antics before moving to Los Angeles. They discuss music, songwriting, audio and more - including a musical sampling from one of Chris' recent sessions. Above: Coconut Grove (Photo: New York Times) SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Chris exploring musical possibilities in new jam. 2:18 - Greetings / "Vote for Chris" / Chris singing at Mass / The Miami News / "The Magic Show" at Coconut Grove Playhouse and in L.A. / Peter De Paula / 4:46 - Roger wants all the family photos / What is family friendly? 5:15 - Roger's new blog post about growing up in Coconut Grove / Roger trying to remember / Feedback on Old Coconut Grove Facebook page / More about the Grove 8:10 - Vizcaya Museum & Gardens / Museum of Science / Miami Seaquarium shark display / Rickenbacker Causeway / Busted with BB guns in Miami and Hollywood Hills 11:25 - Eskil's Clog Shop Miami / Debbie Hansen / Cozzolli's Pizza / Buying fake IDs / Bus stop at Dinner Key / Sailboat Bay / David T. Kennedy Park 13:50 - Latency issues from piano to P.A. / PreSonus StudioLive 16 / 15:00 - Chris all alone at the house with the animals / Playing guitar through Roland Micro Cube amp / California Blonde amp 17:14 - Chris ' current reading / The Bible / C. S. Lewis "The Weight of Glory" / Roger mentions "Mere Christianity" / James Altucher "Choose Yourself" / Roger still reading "Main Street" by Sinclair Lewis / Game show scandal involving Charles Van Doren, co-author (with Mortimer Adler) of "How to Read a Book" / Syntopicon 21:12 - Roger "boning up" on Boogie Woogie piano 22:58 - Songwriting versus instrument mastery 24:24 - Playing the Selectric 24:59 - Parting shots / Americone Dream / Chris' regratabble diet, lately / The Pump House gym Myrtle Beach / Chris' grandsons Miles and Elijah      

In this episode, the twins try their hands again at remote recording. Roger is excited that the iconic rock magazine, CREEM, is back again. Family, books, Elton and life lately - plus another gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Early Train" by Chris Yale - Performed at The Central (now The Viper Room), Los Angeles 1989 4:06 - Greetings / About the song / Recording this podcast remotely 4:58 - CREEM Magazine is back / "Boy Howdy" / R. Crumb / Barry Kramer / J.J. Kramer / No Depression Magazine 6:39 - Lester Bangs / Greil Marcus / Dave Marsh 7:36 - "Have a Little Faith: The John Hiatt Story" by Michael Elliot / John Hiatt music and catalog / Roger "playing ahead" 9:51 - CREEM cover - new first issue 10:23 - Roger's writing / Drumming up work and blogging 10:46 - Chris meets his granddaugher, Naomi / Rog hanging with Katie, Bill, Miles and Naomi 11:28 - Elton John in Charlotte / Elton at Barclay's Center 2019 12:54 - "Main Street" by Sinclair Lewis / "Babbitt" / Provincial blowback 14:55 - Elbert Hubbard's Scrap Book / The Note Book of Elbert Hubbard / Grove Park Inn, Asheville 15:47 - Roger's upcoming vacation / Maggie Valley and more 16:40 - 2023 shows at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Roger solo gigs 17:46 - Kent Kimes / Weekly Surge 18:49 - "Dead Elvis" by Greil Marcus / Books we forgot / "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" / "Conceptual Blockbusting" / "Economics Explained" / Michael Benner / KLOS 19:45 - Pascal badgering Joe Benson at KLOS / Acid / Ancient Age 20:45 - Parting shots / Chris' mother-in-law's birthday / More CREEM

The twins go down a rabbit hole that runs the gamut from recording gear, old papers and anxiety to gigs in Myrtle Beach, horrible movies, a hardhat and much more - including a replay of a musical gem from their old band, Rogue Alley. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "City of Pain" by Chris Yale performed by Rogue Alley 4:23 - Greetings / The life of the mind / Dusty old papers / Dominick Dunne / Karpeles Manuscript Library Museum Charleston, S.C. / College of Charleston / Hollywood Bookbinding shop, 1970s 6:18 - About "City of Pain" / Chris' leather pants / Rick Springfield / Jim Morrison / Rob Halford / Village People / The hardhat 9:12 - "Can't Stop the Music" / Alan Carr / Bruce (Caitlyn) Jenner / Mixdowns on blow / Fleetwood Mac "Tusk" 10:16 - Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / Roger's progress / Issues with TRRS cable / Dumping files to DAW / Mix minus / RODEcaster Pro 16:05 - Chris dropped his phone 17:24 - "The Season" is ending in Myrtle Beach / "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" / Joan Didion / "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" / Chris brags about his chores at work 20:26 - Chris' anxiety / "I'll see how I feel tomorrow" / Letters between Mom and Dad / Heavily redacted and curated / Mom's journals 25:48 - Old Bull and Bush Pub Myrtle Beach versus LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Old versus new recording and PA gear 27:25 - Yinzers 27:34 - Chris' meltdown / Questions about mental states / The Canadian tobacco order / Roger punched Chris 30:03 - Roger Dollarhide and our cousin Lidcay / "Lidcay pulled a gun on me" / Oxygen tent revival 31:27 - Burned out on Bowie and Bruce / Melissa Etheridge on Bob Lefsetz Podcast / Daryl Hall on Lefsetz Podcast / Chris' 12-string Takamine / A (pedalboard) Chorus Line 33:15 - Roger got a spoof email / Kramer on the bus 36:12 - "How to Read a Book" - Adler / Little Free Library / Giving away books 37:32 - TRRS experiment

The twins discuss the various DAWs and standalone multitrack recorders at their disposal and the learning curves associated with them. They also touch on Georgetown, SC, going wireless, a discussion about a book Roger has been wanting to read for decades and much more - including a crazy instrumental from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Crime Drama 1975" - by Chris Yale 1:39 - Greetings and about the track / Logic Pro versus GarageBand / Failing at Cubase / "Failing Forward" by John C. Maxwell 3:30 - Florian ZaBach was a real dude / The Firesign Theatre / Travalanche Blog 5:38 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Overdevelopment 6:43 - Chris went wireless 8:47 - ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 - Roger is getting one, Chris has one / Remote podcasting 10:31 - Carolina Forest versus Myrtle Beach 11:03 - Chris' trip to Georgetown, SC, with wife Betsy / Front Street Guitars / Purr & Pour Cat Cafe / Folk art / Howard Finster / Howard Bannister / Fenster 16:50 - Recent gigs at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach 17:00 - "How to Read a Book" by Mortimer Adler and Charles Van Doren / Encyclopedia Britannica / Great Books of the Western World / Syntopicon / About the book 21:30 - Scrolling and the decline of attention / Bob Lefsetz / TikTok 22:43 - Learning the ZOOM L8 23:32 - Elton John is coming to Charlotte 24:00 - Georgetown / Brookgreen Gardens / Aesthetics / Appreciating Art / Ox head and scorpion tail / John Entwistle and Michael Schenker 25:49 - Birthday shout-outs to Jim Alden, Craig Cass, Scott Mann, Chris Garcia 27:05 - Al Goldstein, again / Parting shots

The twins discuss Chris' guitars and their inherent personalities throughout this episode. Chris is going to be a grandfather again and Roger is going to be a first-time grandfather. But there's more: A misplaced lecture from a nun, the choice to respond correctly, recent gigs, a song snippet from the archive and much more. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Song snippet: "Same Old Thing" by Chris Yale 2:40 - Greetings / Chris' guitars: Voices and tunings / Orangewood / Alvarez / Yamaha Pacifica / 1978 Telecaster / Freedom Guitar Hollywood 5:36 - About "Same Old Thing" 6:13 - Sister Kathleen got it wrong 8:00 - Holsum Bread 9:14 - Episode 65 with Fred Berney 9:55 - The Grandfather Club- Chris and Roger 12:19 - More about the Coffee House scene / Brill Building songwriters: Carole King, Cynthia Weil / Barry Mann / Andy Kim / Jeff Barry / Holdouts from the Folk scene 13:57 - The rocking chairs at Baptist Hospital, Miami 14:41 - Deciding to play music / Drums and piano / Boogie-woogie piano 17:35 - Sound settings at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Requests / North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina / Old Bull and Bush Pub / Schlepping and sound / Cubase and DAW 22:47 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Recharging and getaways / Weed 24:09 - It's never too late / Time will pass anyway 24:30 - More guitar talk / Ovation / Takamine / Alvarez / Oscar's Gibson SG 25:43 - No apologies / Let guilt transform you / Screw guilt? / Al Goldstein / Cigar shows / Mickey Rooney / Star-B-Que / Roy Moseley 27:40 - Commercial auditions / Agents / Ann Wright Agency / Margo Vann's photos 29:00 - Missy the cat looks like Babs 30:36 - Our attitudes and responses / Roger's BLOG POST about that / Viktor Frankl / Chris' mea culpa rant 34:08 - More about Chris' guitar voices / Morgan Spruce / Morgan Spurlock / JP Morgan / Morgan Fairchild 35:39 - Canal Street Stradivarius 36:44 - Status nonsense / Play what you like / Lugging heavy gear to bars / Guitar is passe / Music technology 39:00 - "Songwriter" movie / "Ishtar" 39:44 - Retail at the Brill 40:05 - Parting shots / Heaven / Hebrew National / Nathan's

“Hootenanny A Go-Go,” aka “Once Upon A Coffee House” is a 1965 film based on an original story by and includes songs and music from our dad, Carl Yale (that's him with the sunglasses if you're on Libsyn). The film was shot in Miami at a breakneck pace in 1964 and was produced by Fred Berney. The idea came about as a result of Berney's visits to one of our father's (and uncle's) coffee houses in Miami – The Hootenanny – as the folk scene was coming to a crescendo at the advent of the British Invasion – and was intended as a vehicle for various folk artists at the time. Of note is the fact that the film was also the first-ever screen appearance by Joan Rivers. Here's our conversation with Fred – a look into the film itself, his life and career in media, and his take on Miami itself. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Once Upon a Coffee House" by Carl Yale, performed by The Goldebriars 2:00 - Greetings and about the song - from the film "Hootenanny A Go-Go" aka "Once Upon a Coffee House" 3:25 - Welcome Fred Berney / Growing up in Miami / Shenandoah Elementary / Shenandoah Junior High / Miami Senior High 4:50 - Early interest in recording / Pentron 9T-3C 8:57 - Hanging out at WQAM / Kirby Brooks / DuPont Building / "Johnny's Magic Adventure" multi-groove records / Bob Gordon / Rick Shaw / Jon Arthur / Brace Beemer / Miami Stadium 14:20 - Turning a love of radio into a profession / Recording studio / Satellite Media backstory 17:13 - Meeting Carl and Roger Yale, the original Yale Brothers / Hootenanny Coffee House (8th Street) 18:50 - Origins of radio show / Joseph Cotton / "Night at the Hootenanny Coffee House" record / Phil Koss / Helene Slack / Vince Martin / Recording process and performers / Mike Piel / Columbus Day Hootenanny live recording 25:43 - The Coffee House (Douglas Road) - used for exteriors in the movie / Interiors shot on sets. 26:53 - Background info on movie / Vehicle for Folk music / Fred's film education at the University of Miami and real-world experience / Commercial production 29:58 - Interest in shooting a film / "Sextet" (1964 - Not the Mae West movie) / Russ Meyer "nudie-cuties" 31:00 - More background on movie / Initial funding through Berney's father / Reela Films / Wometco and WTVJ / Meeting at Epic Records NYC / The Freewheelers / The Goldebriars / Casting / The Bitter End NYC / Jim, Jake and Joan 34:18 - Premiere in Miami / The sets / Storage of negative / Prints / 35mm versus 16mm / Arriflex camera versus Mitchell camera 38:40 - Director of Photography Will Jones / Issues with original director / Commentary track on DVD - distributed by Alpha Video / Talent considered: Director Chris Nyby II, Jerry Van Dyke, Paul Lynde / Lead roles: Curtis Taylor and Karen Thorsell 45:15 - Radio show 1963 / Whirlwind courtship with future wife Ellen Berney 46:36 - Music by Carl Yale with additional lyrics by (Uncle) Roger Yale - with the exception of Oscar Brand / Original script / Director Shepard Traube 52:25 - "Nude Girl with Guitar" painting 53:42 - Dad's cameos / Dream sequence / Crew as extras / Chris and Roger appeared in their stroller 57:12 - Parting comments 59:10 - "Honey Bunny" by Carl Yale

In this episode, the twins discuss the tourist season in Myrtle Beach, the long-awaited KISS show in Raleigh, dense books, obnoxious drinking times - and much more, including a gem from the musical archive - this one from Chris' friend and former bandmate. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "No Way" by Doug McKelley 2:36 - Greetings / Podcast resistance / Bullworker / About the song / Medicine Hat / Doug McKelley, Phil Romano, Ed Dennis, Nick Falco (RIP) / Wow and flutter / Adjust the azimuth 5:26 - Financial literacy / Credit and consumerism 6:18 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Broadway at the Beach / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Beach town? / Over-development 8:19 - KISS in Raleigh, finally / BLOG POST / Perception versus reality / David Garibaldi / Denny Dent / Ken Kelly (RIP) / Love Gun Tour / "KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park" / Six Flags Magic Mountain / Pre-trip playlist / Parking lot t-shirts 15:09 - Miles (Chris' grandson) calls him "Dude." 16:47 - Dense books / "Fantasyland" by Kurt Andersen / John Hiatt biography / New Thought movement / Emerson / Thoreau / "Saints and Strangers" / "London's Burning" 21:29 - Drinking and obnoxious behavior back in the day 22:59 - Trump doesn't read 23:32 - Allen Ginsberg / The Beat Generation / Burroughs / "Junky" / Cut-and paste / "Naked Lunch" / "Cities of the Red Night" / Burroughs' wife's death / Kerouac's "On the Road" / Watershed's "Bleeding on the Blank Page" 25:06 - Carolina Country Music Fest is sold out / Luke Bryan / Keith Urban / Jason Aldean / Myrtle Beach resident parking stickers 26:47 - Chris' song and snippet work 27:26 - Anxiety 27:45 - Parting shots - Taylor (Roger's daughter) is visiting soon / Summer events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / Gurkha Cigars / Sparky's Country Store - "Have a Bow-WOW Day" / Thoughts of heaven

The twins discuss the baby formula shortage, their childhood home in up in Coconut Grove, KISS, groupies, various recording  platforms and much more, including another gem from the music archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Seeing's Believing" - Medicine Hat version 4:08 - Greetings and about the song 5:18 - Dig Dug / Sweetened and sugary sodas 5:58 - Baby formula shortage / Atlantic article / Back to breastfeeding? 11:37 - Supply chain / Crypto crash 12:44 - Roger's newspaper work / Coconut Grove blog post / 2340 Tigertail Court / More about the house / "Square Grouper" 16;29 - "Square groupies" / Death of a Plaster Caster / "Sweet, Sweet Connie" / KISS' "Plaster Caster" 18:49 - KISS' early influence on The Yale Brothers / Cheap Trick / Strasberg school / "Uta Hagen Dazs" 20:54 - ROG finally going to KISS in Raleigh 22:02 - "Fame" movie / Teresa Hughes / Irene Cara 22:37 - Chris' animals 23:13 - Chris is working on song ideas / recording and drumming platforms / Chris' drumming / On overplaying 28:18 - Bike Week in Myrtle Beach / Baggers and Double-Baggers 28:55 - Recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach 29:56 - Parting Shots / "Who's Roger Yale?" / Chris' anxiety

The twins cover more than any short podcast should attempt - beginning with a question about whether or not booze is a drug and then diving into a maelstrom of ever-changing topics - including recording artists, songwriting, artistic integrity, performing rights organizations and much more - including another musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Broken Angel" by Chris Yale - remix 4:00 - Greetings / Paraquat Kelley / 4:20 Candle / Stoners versus Drunks / Pigpen / The Grateful Dead / "This Is Spinal Tap" 5:35 - Isn't booze a drug? / Drink and judge / Is Roger a judgmental bastard? / Chemical smells 8:45 - Roxy Music / "Love is the Drug" / Judging recording artists / Lou Reed / "New York" album / The Velvet Underground / "Mistrial" / "New Sensations" 11:09 - Put-on personas / David Bowie and Mick Ronson produced "Walk on the Wild Side" / Mark Ronson / Toni Braxton 14:05 - Selling out? / Artistic integrity? 15:24 - Chris' current listening / Chris Cornell / Black Sabbath "Master of Reality" / Chris' darker side / "Sweet Leaf" 16:58 - About "Broken Angel" remix / Peter Knight  / Yamaha AW series 18:25 - Mouth-breathing on mic / Chris' grandson tried to eat the mic 19:00 - Reconnecting with Roger's de facto piano mentor, Gordon Mogden / Roger's blog post, "Leon's Piano" / Leon Russell / Paradise Studios Burbank 21:42 - Chris' current efforts on Logic Pro / 1978 Telecaster / Roger's Cubase LE AI Elements 12 / Steinberg / Remote podcast sessions versus in-person sessions 26:18 - Easter "CEOs" / Mitch Easter / "The Andy Warhol Diaries" / Edifice Wrecks / Starstruck / Chris saw Jagger and Bowie / Chris tried on boots next to Paul Stanley on Melrose / Upcoming KISS and Elton John shows for Roger / Cidny Bullens and Elton John / The Refugees 32:10 - Roger's nature outings / Vereen Memorial Gardens / Myrtle Beach State Park 33:00 - Bruce Cockburn (pronounced Coburn) - We would pronounce it like that too / If you lay out on your back and fall asleep at a nudist beach, could you get Coburn? / Jackson Browne / Eric Clapton 34:26 - Yale Brothers on songwriting / Capturing ideas when they show up / TAXI / ASCAP / BMI / Performing rights organizations 39:10 - Steven Pressfield books / Book sharing / Kindle / DRM / Creative Commons / Dave Slusher / "Evil Genius Chronicles" 40:30 - Parting shots / Brotherly love / Edie Brickell and Paul Simon / Carrie Fisher and Paul Simon / Edie Sedgwick

Televangelists. Scandals. Bhagwans. Barefoot drummers. The twins are at it again. Also: Another digitized gem from the song archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Living for You" by Chris Yale 4:35 - Greetings / Losing ten minutes of gold / About the song / Steve Kobashigawa / Vox Continental 6:51 - Roger being judgy 7:26 - Shout-out to Cidny Bullens / Elton John turns 75 / New Daryl Hall album 9:02 - Red Hot Chili Peppers / Flea on WTF Podcast / Reticular Activating System 10:30 - Hanging out with Jack Irons / Jim Alden / What Is This / Anthym / Pearl Jam / Irons' barefoot drumming / Hillel Slovak / Chris Hutchinson / Alain Johannes 12:21 - Keith Richards quit smoking / "Main Offender" / "Bare Trees" by Fleetwood Mac / "Billy Goat Girl" aka Stevie Nicks / Chris' cat Stevie 14:48 - Heritage USA / Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker / "Eyes of Tammy Faye" / Jessica Chastain / Andrew Garfield / Vincent D'Onofrio as Jerry Falwell Sr. / Moral Majority / "Bagging the Bhagwan" / PTL / 700 Club / Ron Jeremy and Tammy Faye 18:50 - Chris went to Cabo / TAA / Hacienda Del Mar / Rocky Patel 20:50 - Chris took a Delta 9 gummy - or was it Delta 8? 21:56 - Chris is going to be a grandfather again 22:21 - Nervous? / Solo gigs 23:15 - Dragon steam / Dragon's Milk / Badger Milk / Muscle Milk / Cow's Milk or Mother's Milk - "Victor Victoria" 24:02 - Parting shots

Part two of the twins' conversation with Grammy-nominated singer/songwriter Cidny Bullens - starting from his first visit to Nashville (now his home with wife Tanya Taylor Rubinstein) to the unspeakable loss of his youngest daughter and the album that paid loving tribute to her - to his transition from Cindy to Cidny and his one-person show, his upcoming memoir and much more - including two more tracks from his 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World" SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Lucky For Me" by Cidny Bullens - From 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World" 3:27 - Greetings and about the song / More about Cidny 5:00 - Welcome Cidny / COVID-19 situation in Nashville / Book progress - "TransElectric" due in 2023 - Preorders likely in Fall of 2022 8:09 - HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Casey King / Cidny's presentation at 46:05 / Thoughts on recovery / Ice cream and tortilla chips 11:23 - Nashville experience continued / "Send Me an Angel" / David Mansfield / Emmylou Harris / Radney Foster / Bill Lloyd 15:15 - 1989 MCA album, "Cindy Bullens" 15:44 - First trip to Nashville / Writing with Foster and Lloyd / BMI head Roger Sovine / L.A. versus Nashville songwriting collaborations / Immediate acceptance in Nashville / Changes in approach to songwriting / Crafting the song 20:35 - Daughters Jessie and Reid / Losing Jessie to complications from Hodgkin's Lymphoma, 1996 / "Somewhere Between Heaven and Earth" single / Kye Fleming 25:15 - "In Better Hands" / "A Thousand Shades of Gray" / "The Lights of Paris" / Beth Nelson Chapman / Rodney Crowell 27:25 - 1999 album "Somewhere Between Heaven and Earth" / Lucinda Williams / Bonnie Raitt / Bryan Adams / Tony Berg / Danny Goldberg - Artemis Records / "Better Than I've Ever Been" 32:18 - The Refugees / Wendy Waldman / Deborah Holland / Animal Logic / Stewart Copeland / Stanley Clarke 37:05 - "Neverland" album / "Dream #29" album / Ray Kennedy / Steve Earle / Twang Trust / John Hiatt / Delbert McClinton / Elton John on piano on "Dream #29" single 39:05 - More about The Refugees / Work on new record in April / Blessed with supportive friends 41:08 - Transition begins 2011 / First public appearances 2012 / Appearances with The Refugees during this period / "Purgatory Road" / "Going into hiding" / Working at L.L. Bean warehouse in Maine 47:45 - 2014 Canadian gigs with Deborah Holland / More about The Refugees since transition 48:58 - One-person show, "Somewhere Between: Not An Ordinary Life" / Meeting wife Tanya Taylor Rubinstein, also director of the show and solo show coach 55:12 - First reading of show in Maine / Budding romance / Married in 2018 56:51 - About the 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World" / "Purgatory Road" / "Little Pieces" / "The Gender Line" 59:48 - "Invisible" documentary / Songwriting process / Authenticity 1:05:13 - Discussing two awesome Cidny Bullens quotes 1:07:09 - About the song, "Sugartown" 1:10:26 - Wrapping it up / "TransElectric" memoir due in 2023 / Check out www.cidnybullens.com 1:11:35 - "Sugartown"  

The Yale Brothers welcome pioneering rocker and singer/songwriter Cidny Bullens for part one of a two-part conversation. Cidny is a two-time Grammy nominee with 9 albums spanning more than 40 years. He was a backup singer for Elton John and performed two lead vocals on the Grease movie soundtrack. He is one-third of a group called The Refugees with fellow singer/songwriters. Wendy Waldman and Deborah Holland. Cidny – or Cid – began the transition process from Cindy to Cidny in 2011 – and "Walkin' Through This World" is his first album as a man. A documentary about Cidny's life – also called "The Gender Line" – was screened at more than 20 film festivals around the world in 2019. He created a one-person show, "Somewhere Between: Not an Ordinary Life" in 2016 – and he's currently working on his memoir, "TransElectric." Cidny will be speaking Thursday, February 24, at Horry-Georgetown Technical College's Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series – in a virtual setting. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "The Gender Line" by Cidny Bullens from his 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World" 4;17 - Greetings, about the song and about Cidny 5:44 - Cidny (then Cindy) meets Elton John / Cherokee Recording Studios Hollywood / Robb Brothers / Bob Crewe / Neil Sedaka / John Reid 11:54 - "My name is Elton" / Initial Conversation / Connie Papas Hillman invites Bullens on the road with Elton as backup singer. 15:47 - "The hovel" at 8000 Honey Drive, Hollywood / On the road with Elton / "Rock of the Westies" album - West of the Rockies tour / "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" / "Blue Moves"  / Still friends to this day 19:10 - Early life - Boston / West Newberry, MA , Maine / Family and music / Albums and 45s / Jazz / Gospel / Black Music 21:56 - First exposure to Little Richard - "Tutti Frutti" - was a pivotal moment / The decision to become a rocker / Chuck Berry / Blues / Jerry Lee Lewis / The "rawness" of rock 'n' roll meets the melody and harmony of The Everly Brothers 24:25 - Trip to Hollywood with $100, a guitar and a backpack / couch surfing / looking for music work / Meeting Bob Crewe (Four Seasons producer) / Fate / Seven years in Los Angeles / Married Dan Crewe in 1979 28:32 - About first album: "Desire Wire" / Challenges surrounding being a woman in rock 'n' roll / Shopping the record / Resistance / First manager Tony Defries / Androgynous / Album recorded on spec / Deal with United Artists Records / "Grease" movie soundtrack 35:26 - First single: "Survivor" - garnered Grammy nomination for Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female (1980) / Vocals / "Sonic Attention" / UA Records folded in 1980 / Don Kirshner's Rock Concert / American Bandstand 39:12 - The Casablanca era / "Tomfoolery"at the label / Not a KISS fan / Neil Bogart / First KISS showcase 42:21 - "Desire Wire" album photo / Taken by Norman Seef's assistant, Georgina Karvellas 44:15 - Bruce Bird's demands at Casablanca and Bullens' eventual departure from the label. 46:25 - Appearances on Bob Dylan Rolling Thunder Revue tour / Bob Neuwirth  50:08 - First marriage to Dan Crewe / 22 years / Daughters Reid and Jessie / Eventual move to Maine 53:05 - Returning to music in 1985 / Roy Orbison Tribute 1990 was life-changing / "Pretty Woman" with Bonnie Raitt, K.D. Lang,, Emmylou Harris / Debbi Peterson / Wendy & Lisa / Tina Weymouth / Carla Azar / Solo song at tribute / T Bone Burnett / Don Was 56:31 - Call from Don Was - "Send Me an Angel" - Turning point in songwriting career, 1990 / Cidny discusses 1989 MCA Album, "Cindy Bullens" / More about Send Me an Angel" and new songwriting approach / Nashville beckons / Emmylou Harris / Radney Foster / Bill Lloyd / Embraced in Nashville: "Saved my musical soul" 1:00:45 - Horry-Georgetown Technical College Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Casey King / Cidny's story / 45 years clean and sober 1:02:44 - Forthcoming memoir, "TransElectric"/ 50 years of journals a blessing and a curse 1:05:26 - Wrapping up Part One / "Walkin' Through This World" by Cidny Bullens from his 2020 album of the same name.

In this episode Roger tells Chris about a guy they knew who stayed at the Magic Hotel (now the Magic Castle Hotel) and was so impressed with his experience there that he later named his restaurant in Tokyo after the address of the hotel. They also discuss their young lives in Crestline, a small burg in Southern California's San Bernardino Mountains and talk about music, Catholicism and much more - including a newly-digitized song from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Last Day on Earth" by Chris Yale - performed by the band Yale at the Bla Bla Cafe in Studio City, CA - circa 1980. 3:03 - Greetings and about the song / This episode is our age and Chris' mic / Elisabeth Kübler-Ross 4:08 - Besetting sin / Confession / Catholicism / The other side of the cross / Frankie Goes to Hollywood / "Besotting" sin 6:25 - The two China Clubs in Hollywood 7:30 - Kozo Matsumoto / China Club Restaurant, early 1980s / Smithsonian Magazine article - go to "Burgers" section to find Matsumoto's story and reference to the Magic Hotel / Matsumoto's restaurant 14:15 - Chris' dream about the Magic Hotel / Lucid dreaming / The vending machines 15:57 - Dreaming of Crestline, CA / The school buses / The music on Bus 19 17:10 - The songs we remember from Bus 19 - circa 1974/1975 19:37 - Moving around versus staying put as kids / "Silvio" by Bob Dylan 21:40 - Roger is a Dylan late adopter / Revisiting Jackson Browne / Gram Parsons biography by Ben Fong-Torres 23:00 - More Catholicism / Catechism 23:38 - Latest gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach 24:30 - "Seinfeld" / "Curb Your Enthusiasm" / "The Blacklist" / Megan Boone / "Yellowstone" on Peacock / SiriusXM: To ditch or not to ditch 25:56 - "Paul McCartney: The Life" by Philip Norman / Spotify: Neil Young versus Joe Rogan 27:32 - Parting shots / Latency issues while recording this episode / Carolina Forest versus Myrtle Beach

The twins try recording from their respective home studios and talk about everything from Roger's appearance in a viral TikTok video to the fact that cigars are no longer sold at Winston Churchill's estate - as well as ramblings about The Beatles, Orson Welles, Harlan Ellison and much more - including a recently unearthed musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Come Alone" by Chris Yale performed by the band, Yale, at the Bla Bla Cafe, Studio City, CA, circa 1980 3:40 - Greetings / About this episode's recording approach / Roger went viral on his daughter's TikTok 6:00 - No more cigars at Chartwell 8:15 - Reactions to Moderna booster 8:54 - Recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / PreSonus Studiolive 16 / Yamaha AW2816 11:40 - Jim Bailey / Philip Bailey / Steve Bailey 12:11 - About "Come Alone" and more / Going alone 14:51 - Chris's 1976 Datsun 280Z 15:57 - Ralph Ellison "Invisible Man" / Confusing Ralph Ellison with Harlan Ellison / H.G. Wells "The Invisible Man" / Synopsis of Ellison book / Little Free Library 19:42 - Roger forgives himself 20:35 - "Owner of a Lonely Heart" / Trevor Horn / The Flintstones 21:30 - "Paul McCartney: The Life" by Philip Norman / "Get Back" documentary / "McCartney 3,2,1"  22:20 - John versus Paul / Chris versus Roger 23:03 - More about "Get Back" / Neil Aspinall / Mal Evans / Michael Linsdsay-Hogg / Is Hogg Orson Welles' son? / Sir Denis Eton-Hogg in "This Is Spinal Tap" / "Citizen Kane" 25:27 - "Being the Ricardos" / "Belfast" 25;28 - Parting shots / Skype Issues / Confusing dead guys  

After a brief hiatus, the twins are back - discussing an old tall tale, Chris' trips out of the country, Roger's road trip to the mountains, time with Chris' family, Roger's first-ever 5K, recent gigs and more, including a newly digitized gem from the audio archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Defiance" by Chris Yale - Performed by Yale (first band) at the Bla Bla Cafe in Studio City, CA., circa 1980. 3:34 - Greetings and about the song 4:44 - Roger's Big Lie / Apologies to Roger's middle-school best friend Glen Ross / Raquel Welch 7:14 - Chris' two trips out of the country / Dominican Republic / Turks and Caicos / Airport Craziness over Thanksgiving Weekend / Casa De Campo / The "Island Treats" guy in Turks 11:16 - Roger's trip to the mountains of Southwest Virginia with Brenda / Dr. Grabow factory in Sparta, N.C. / Privy Races in Independence, VA / Shithouse Rickshaws 13:25 - Most recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Upcoming gigs 14:19 - Hanging with Chris' family: Miles, Elijah, Katie, Bill, Betsy and Martha / Miles warmed up to Roger 15:22 - Roger ran a 5K / The Market Common Myrtle Beach / Doug Shaw Stadium /  Foot is still sore 17:22 - Franz Cough-ca 18:20 - Katie and Bill's 5K in Wilmington, NC 18:43 - Running into the Slushers at the airport 19:07 - Not Podfade Away 19:51 - Chris' current podcast recording situation / Mix-Minus / Roger wants a standalone multitrack recorder / Mr. Spock is a Logic Pro / Chris' middle-school best friend Daryl Macias 21:48 - Pooch-A-Mania event at The Market Common Myrtle Beach / WAVE 104.1 / Scott Mann / Scott Hyman / Myrtle Beach PD K-9 Unit / Killer Chihuahuas 24:43 - Parting shots

The twins talk about the positive energy at recent gigs, performing in the moment and assorted albums from Dylan to Springsteen to Yes. They recall their friendship with actor Joe Maher, discuss a friend's master's thesis on acting and much more, including a live recording from their first-ever gig with their first band. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Drag Strip Blues" by Chris Yale - Performed by Yale- Bla-Bla Cafe Los Angeles circa 1980 4:21 - Greetings and about the song / John C. Dvorak / Andy Gibb Concert Miami 1970s / Hollywood Professional School 6:21 - Roger's son Wes' and daughter-in-law Leigh's first wedding anniversary / Chris' daughter Katie married six years to Bill / National Daughter's Day / Katie and Taylor (Roger's daughter) 9:07 - Judgy 9:28 - Latest gigs / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Acoustic fly rig and looper / Timing / "Thunder Road" - Springsteen / Yes, "Close to the Edge" / Springsteen, "Born to Run" album 15:27 - Bob Dylan, "Springtime in New York" / "Infidels" / "Slow Train Coming" / "Shot of Love" / Sly Dunbar and Robbie Shakespeare / Rolling Thunder Revue / "Echo in the Canyon" 19:15 - Chris' scratch-offs / More Yes / "Owner of a Lonely Heart" / Trevor Horn / Synclavier / Fairlight / Van Halen, "And the Cradle Will Rock" intro 21:50 - "I happen to know..." 22:15 - Hanging with Joe Maher / Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / "Heaven Can Wait" / Chevy Chase / Ken Howard / Yamashiro / "The Natural" / Chinese Theatre / Flip-flop problems / Richard Nielson / Julie Christie 26:35 - Love it or leave it? 32:17 - Elizabeth Gilbert, "Big Magic" / Lefsetz podcast / Broken Record podcast / Malcolm Gladwell podcast / Pushkin Industries / Our friend Chris Dell's postgrad thesis: "The Collision: The Reintroduction of Core-Shamanic Techniques for Character Building in Theatrical Production" / Meisner / Stanislavski / Strasberg / Uta Hagen / Stella Adler / Jerzy Grotowski / 34:06 - Steven Adler / Obama, "A Promised Land" / "Every Little Step" documentary about "A Chorus Line" revival 36:00 - Parting shots / Tony Perkins teaser

The twins unearth another gem from the cassette archive and then fall headlong into the maelstrom - discussing everything from recent gigs in Myrtle Beach, Paul Anka, Chrissie Hynde and Garth Brooks to authors, show tunes, a really cool park in Miami and much more. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Answer Me" by Chris Yale circa 1988 4:17 - Greetings and about the song / Stare Cat Sound, Glendale, CA / Ian Talcroft / Steve Kobashigawa 6:00 - "It's a Rock Thing" - English guys singing Southern / Blues and Country origins 6:31 - Garth Brooks documentary - part 2 / Quitting music 7:51 - Shout-out to our friend Carl McClain - thanks for loaning us your P.A. head. 8:29 - Latest House of Blues gig - very enthusiastic crowd / Early gigs versus late gigs / Latest LuLu's gig - great mix 10:40 - "I got pretty good" / Chrissie Hynde / The Pretenders / Lemmy couldn't score with Chrissie 11:44 - "I Want To Be Your Man" - Roger (Troutman) / Peter Tosh with Stones / Ron Wood albums 12:52 - Matheson Hammock Miami / Raleigh Chopper bicycle / Matt Ross / Dixie Highway (U.S. 1) 14:15 - Roger "ran away" from home twice / Mom's soap operas 15:45 - Novellas / David Leavitt, "Arkansas" / Little Free Library / Oscar Wilde 17:45 - The time Dad didn't show up 19:05 - Random show tunes / "Pal Joey '78" with Lena Horne / Roger working out to "Evita" 19:54 - Roger's training for a 5K / Advice from Buck and Jodie / Pacing and distance / Stan Obrycki / Roger's son Wes' "pinky swear with Chris / "Pain Retains" 21:29 - California reports lowest COVID-19 rates in nation / California homelessness / Austin homelessness / Drunk Panhandlers outside Barney's Beanery Hollywood 26:44 - Roger's shroud of political correctness 26:57 - Paul Anka on Lefsetz podcast / More Anka / Anka chews out a musician about wardrobe / Buddy Rich rants on bus 31:08 - Our gig t-shirts 32:32 - Change afoot: Explosive growth growth in Myrtle Beach / Carolina Forest / Myrtle Beach natives / Transplants / Trans Plant / Dread Zeppelin / El Vez 35:22 - Parting shots / Five gigs in a week

The twins continue down their particular rabbit holes, from babbling about George Orwell and Aldous Huxley to sensory deprivation and memories about Crestline, California to mic placement, audio gear, our latest gigs and more - including an audio grab from a recent show. Above: Art by Nancy Dickinson SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Famous Last Words" - by Chris Yale / Audio capture from show at North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina - July 17, 2021 4:05 - Greetings / George Orwell / Newspeak / More about the song 5:20 - Roger's mic placement issues 5:51 - "Interesting" is not a useful word choice / Brendan Wright 7:02 - Three gigs this week: House of Blues Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina / Vocal strain? 8:39 - Paul McCartney sang with throat issues at a show Roger attended. He felt ripped off. 9:35 - More about the shows / LuLu's:  QSC Speakers / Presonus StudioLive 16 / Chris' old Yamaha AW2816 10:35 - Scott Mann got us a gig / WAVE 104.1 / Pooch-A-Mania / Bookshop dogs and cats / Blue Bicycle Books Charleston / Austin Rocks - Jeffrey / Bill Cosby "Jeffrey" / Richard Pryor "The Wino and the Junkie" 13:14 - P.A. Issues 16:33 - The Elton John expert 19:00 - Paying our dues / Grateful Dead, "Blues for Allah" 19:19 - The brook in Crestline, CA / Jim Alden / Our names in the tree / Tripping / Lake Gregory / Corey Dickinson / Nancy Dickinson and The Daisy Patch / "Swish Delish" 23:14 - Goodwin's Market / Our first girlfriends, the Goodwin Twins / First Communion with the twins / Mark Mulkeen 24:30 - Annie Dillard, "The Writing Life" / "Life In Pieces" / "Dark Side of the Moon" documentary / "Dazed and Confused" 25:16 - Garth Brooks documentary part one / Is Garth a douche? 26:47 - More Newspeak / Orwell / Aldous Huxley / "Brave New World" / "Moksha" / "The Divine Within" / Throbbing Gristle / Undulating leaves / Isolation tanks / Stan Obrycki / "Altered States" / Sensory deprivation / Bob Morales / Rodgers and Hammerstein / "The King and I" Parting shots / "Do the Work" by Steven Pressfield / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / You can't go back / "Look Homeward, Angel" / Thomas Wolfe / "You Can't Go Home Again"

The Yale Brothers discuss the passing of Charlie Watts, postponed KISS shows, upcoming shows of their own and more - including awkward moments at the drive-thru, Emotional Intelligence, overthinking, dreaming of bygone apartments - and another digitized song from the cassette archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Watching Her Eyes" by Chris Yale and Steve Kobashigawa circa 1981 4:45 - Greetings and about the song / Pascal Srabian (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa / Tascam Portastudio 144 6:40 - RIP Charlie Watts 7:24 - About KISS' Raleigh cancellation / Live Nation 9:38 - Upcoming Yale Brothers shows at House of Blues Myrtle Beach 10:08 - Labor Day Weekend in Myrtle Beach / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach 11:09 - David Bowie was pissed at MTV about the absence of Black Music. 11:39 - COVID rages in Myrtle Beach / Our friend Bruno / COVID protocols in Montreal / COVID Passports 12:54 - Eggs Up Grill Myrtle Beach / Chris' breakfast at home 13:47 - "Christian and Roger Yale Hate to Wait" - Miami News early 1960s / What if we recreated the photo now and ask photographer Scott Smallin to snap it? 15:09 - Golf carts in Myrtle Beach / Myrtle Beach Marathon / L.A. Marathon / Traffic snarls / Roger's upcoming 5K with friend Stan Obrycki / Chris' bike rides 17:35 - Morning Pages / Julia Cameron / "The Artist's Way" / Elizabeth Gilbert / "Big Magic" / "Eat Pray Love" / Chris Dell / Rob Bell 19:08 - Evangelical culture / Big church / Big religion / Money, power and votes / Bodhi Tree Los Angeles 20:35 - Taylor's Irland and England trip / NYC Subway flooding / Peaky Blinder Pub Birmingham 21:48 - Chris' awkward moments at the drive-thru / Order anxiety 24:05 - Awkward ordering at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / To tip or not to tip / Roger's overthinking / Larry David Moments 25:55 - It's Mom's fault / Who favors whom? 27:51 - Can Emotional Intelligence get in the way? / People pleasing 29:09 - Little Free Library / Wallace Stegner / "Crossing to Safety" / "All the Little Live Things" 31:07 - "Loudermilk" on Prime Video / Eric, "the San Francisco Treat" 32:04 - Dreaming about our old apartment in Glendale / Chris worked at the Glendale Holiday Inn (now Days Inn) 34:03 - Three gigs this week: House of Blues Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina 34:45 - Parting shots / Broadway at the Beach

The twins talk about everything from KISS, twins and more bygone Hollywood restaurants to Roger's newspaper work, music producers, songwriters, sonic footprints, the shrinking collective attention span and much more, including another find from the cassette archive. Photo: Yale Brothers with Pascal Srabian (RIP), circa 1981 SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "You Got Something" by Roger Yale circa 1981 3:53 - Greetings and about the song / Tascam 144 Portastudio / Heading for cancellation / Pascal Srabian (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa 6:21 - Parachute jumpsuits / Les McKeown 7:36 - Argent / Rod Argent / The Zombies / Darien Sahanaja / "Hold Your Head Up" / "Liar" / Pat McLaughlin / "Wrong Number" / Allen Toussaint / Mitchell Froom / Crowded House / Capitol Records / Music producers and sonic footprints 11:11 - The H. Salt incident / Hollywood and Vermont 12:29 - Ernie's Taco House, Las Palmas Avenue, Hollywood, 1970s / Ting Ho Restaurant, Highland Avenue / / The Italian Deli, Highland Avenue 14:30 - Three sets of twins at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Our friend Nicole's sisters, extremely identical / Twinsburg, Ohio 16:35 - Roger's 1988 Sportster / Pulled over for noise without a motorcycle license / Repossession / Chris' van repossession 18:50 - Roger's current newspaper work / Saying yes / Post and Courier 21:00 - Richard Pryor Wino Dealing with Dracula 21:37 - Making sure Chris isn't losing data / Robbie Robertson / "Sweet Fire of Love" with U2 22:45 - Upcoming KISS show in Raleigh, August 28 / KISS residency in Las Vegas / End of the World Tour / Farewell tours 24:09 - Our friends on Hollywood Boulevard / Manny became Sophia / London Fish and Chip House / Parties at Franklin and Orange apartment 26:38 - When swingers ask you if you party... 27:25 - The problem with hanging out 29:30 - Showering with Sade / Keeping up with the feeds / Pocket / Feedly / Apple Podcasts 31:06 - People don't read / The collective attention span 31:50 - Parting shots / The cassette archive / Chris is going to fix his mother-in-law's computer

Celebrating 50 episodes, the twins have a new twist on "Backward Masking." They also cover young Roger's infatuation with Tatum O'Neal, old Hollywood haunts, taking things for granted, first cars, first band, old-school entertainers and much more - including a newly-digitized gem from the cassette archive. Photo: The Yale Brothers with Pascal Srabian (RIP), circa 1980 SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Be My Star" by Roger Yale, circa 1981 2:57 - Greetings and about the song / LACC Music Department / Rog had a crush on Tatum O'Neal / Chris says Rog was stalking her. Roger disagrees. 5:40 - Excited about Episode 50 / "Grave Before Shave" / Neptune Society / Have we learned anything about podcasting in 50 episodes? / Logic Pro / Libsyn 7:50 - "Star 80" / "All That Jazz" 9:40 - Growing up in Hollywood / We took it for granted / The vantage point from our apartment at Franklin and Orange / Stoner Window / The red room 13:23 - Walks with Dad and Uncle Roger / Practice space at The Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / Chris biking over Laurel Canyon / Mystic Sound / Unlimited possibilities 14:41 - Vagabond Theatre / Old Movies / "The Lady Vanishes" 15:28 - Copper Penny / The Old Spaghetti Factory / Old Masonic Temple Hollywood Boulevard / Roger's play reading with Robert Romanus 16:31 - A handful of water / Old Testament warriors 16:55 - Freedom and first cars / Stealing Dad's cars / The Kinks at the Universal Amphitheater / Chris' wreck in Miami / Fullerton / Crestline / Chris' van / Roger's Fiat 128 / Fiat money / Bill Nye / Puns 21:55 - Roger that / Roger with a small "r" / Roger Healey / Barbara Eden / Blinked into Siberia / Agnes Moorehead / "Roger Morehead" / Tallulah Bankhead / Frank Iwanski / "Irene" with Debbie Reynolds, Ruth Warrick, Patsy Kelly and Hans Conried / "I'll See You Again" by Noel Coward 25:22 - Old-school performers, crew, musicians / Quentin Crisp / Coke Escovedo / "The Naked Civil Servant" / John Hurt / Crisp's lecture at The Westwood Playhouse 28:15 - Roger's daughter Taylor is in Ireland and she's going to England 28:50 - What we would have done differently 29:55 - "Backward Masking" in the COVID era / PMRC / Tipper Gore 32:03 - How many episodes will we do / "The Wreck of the Hesperus" / Ship of Theseus / George Thorogood 34:35 - Is your mind's eye dry? 36:00 - Chris hanging with grandsons Miles and Elijah / Pascal's messed-up English words / Pascal's punk mentality / Splitting up our first band 36:54 - Parting shots

The twins jump around like BBs in a skillet, talking about their first trip to Hollywood, their early decision to play music, songwriting as teens, Chris' murderous cats and more - including another digitized gem from the tape archive. ABOVE: The Yale Brothers at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach (Photo: Tony Bates) SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "End of the Line" by Chris Yale circa 1983 3:50 - Greetings and about the song / Corey Hart / Grieving the loss of the first attempt at this episode / ABBA versus Drive-By Truckers / "Olly oxen free" and misheard lyrics 5:38 - First trip to Hollywood circa 1967 / Television City / "Dean Martin Show" set / "Petticoat Junction" set / Breakaway glass / Barnsdall Art Park smell / Griffith Park 7:09 - The Hollywood Palace / Paul Revere and the Raiders / "You know you grew up in Hollywood because..." / Burgeoning hippies / Summer of Love 8:29 - The early decision to play music / 221 Darfo Drive, Crestline, CA / Middle school band 9:30 - The band that never was / Pearl drum set / KORG Poly Ensemble P / Matt Ross / Ramon Arronte 10:06 - Learning to play / Early covers / Early songwriting / The same vibe now 11:41 - Busted by Sarah Ballantine at Hollywood Professional School / Carl Ballantine / Molly Ballantine / Sportsmen's Lodge / "Phantom of the Paradise" 13:05 - More about loss of data 13:24 - Twin vibe / Twin fights / Laurel and Hardy / Abbott and Costello / Uncle Roger and Dad fighting 14:23 - More about first Hollywood trip / Tom Mix's house / The Judy Lynn Apartments, Carlton Way, Hollywood 15:10 - Roles on this podcast / Roger on the fringes of journalism? 15:43 - Moving and changing schools / Lasting friendships / Silver Bluff Elementary Miami / St. Hugh Catholic School Miami / Jim Alden / Mark Mulkeen 16:33 - Will the KISS tour get canceled again? / The state of COVID-19 / TAA Convention / Jagoffs on planes / Thomas Payne (in the ass) 19:03 - Chris' cats killed a squirrel / Spirit animals 21:02 - More about losing the first take / Meth lab test pilot / I'm in you (continue) / Roger Dollarhide / Paramount Recording Studios 22:08 - More about "End of the Line" / Steve Kobashigawa /Jeff Morrison / Scarlet 24:00 - "Atypical"

The twins discuss the fun they had at the Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) in Hollywood when they were growing up. Also: Chris' time as a magician, PA systems, basses and other music gear, Chris' old job at Capitol records, Roger's reentry into the newspaper business and more - including another newly-digitized vintage song from the cassette archives. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Living in the Wasteland" by Chris Yale - Circa 1981 3:38 - Greetings and about the song / Pascal Srabian (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa / Hondo bass / Writing on bass / Carvin B4 bass 6:14 - Roger's ear is clogged / WAXY- Miami / Debrox 7:53 - "Please don't let me forget" / Tickler file 8:50 - Roger is back in the newspaper business / Post and Courier / Jay Rodriguez / Brookgreen Gardens Story / Chef Nicholas Huckabee (Great American Seafood Cook-Off) story / Roger's blog 12:00 - Chris scored some free food from his friend Leo / Chili's gift card 13:05 - Our "newspaper morgue" at the Magic Hotel (Now Magic Castle Hotel) in Hollywood / Old newsprint smell / Mimeograph smell 14:00 - Chris' time in graphic communications at Capitol Records / Stripping and platemaking / Kevin Yuruki 16:20 - Practicing music in vacant rooms at the Magic Hotel / Realistic PA / First Carvin six-channel PA / Trips to Carvin headquarters in Escondido / Bi-amp process / Our current old Carvin PA / Carvin combo amp 20:51 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Chris is learning on the house PA / The Cartwheel Kid (one-person mosh pit) / Birthday ladies 23:06 - Chris was a magician / Robert Harbin / Mark Wilson / The old magic gear / Loss / Chris lost his Colibri Morpheus lighter 26:35 - Chris was the self-appointed house detective at the Magic Hotel / The billy club / Souvenir bats / Roger misuses "nomenclature" / More loss / "The price of admission" / Chris lost another ten minutes / More about Debrox and earwax / Deox-it / Parting shots

Songs that come to you complete in five minutes. Remembering Jackie Mason. A bygone ABC pilot. Marilyn on a lighter. Crying at rock concerts. Books, movies and much more - including a newly-digitized song from the cassette archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Mine Again" by Roger Yale - Version number 2 3:46 - Greetings and about the song / The idea came during a walk / Paramount Recording Studios / Roger Dollarhide (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa / Nick Walusko (RIP) 5:05 - The hissing cat at Broadway at the Beach / Beefs with animals? / Chris' chihuahuas 7:17 - Jackie Mason dead at 93 / "The Best of Times" pilot / Nicholas Cage / Crispin Glover / Marc Copage / Janet Robin / The audition / George Schlatter / Don Mischer 9:59 - Schlatter at The Masquers Club Hollywood / Foster Brooks 10:34 - Working as extras in Hollywood / Friends working as extras in Myrtle Beach / "Eastbound and Down" / "Magic Mike XXL" 11:23 - Dissing Jackson Browne, Eric Clapton and Sammy Hagar 12:43 - When Hitchcock dissed Spielberg / Henry Rollins dissing a fan in Myrtle Beach 14:49 - People dissing California / The Orange Curtain / Factions burning down the world 16:33 - "Last Night of the World" by Bruce Cockburn 17:17 - Dave Matthews in Charlotte / Our South African heritrage / Johnny Klegg and Savuka / Opening for a DMB tribute at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Chris lost 10 minutes 19:10 - KISS coming to Raleigh on August 28 / Roger's ticket scare / Safetix / Chris' Springsteen day 20:45 - KISS in 1977 / 1980s no makeup / World Domination Tour / Rock the Nation Tour  / Eric Singer / Tommy Thayer 21:45 - Rock shows are like church / Chris crying at Springsteen / Roger crying at Elton John Barclay's Center 21:46 - Chris' Marilyn Monroe lighter 22:42 - Rockers aging out / Stones new tour and ticket prices / More Elton 25:22 - Roger's lyric tablet / Lucinda Williams / Paul Grimshaw 26:51 - "Uncle Frank" / "Loudermilk" / "Brittany Runs a Marathon" 27:27 - Bill Nye book / Little Free Library / Dave Ramsey book / "The Letters of Noel Coward" / "The Tao of Pooh" / "The Te of Piglet" 30:11 - Tao Jones 30:26 - Dave Slusher Evil Genius Chronicles / Investing / FIRE Movement 31:10 - Chris' digitizing efforts / Frank Horn 32:22 - Parting shots / Lily Tomlin / Jill Abramson / Vocal fry / "Slide Some Oil To Me"

A venerable Myrtle Beach gift store turns 75. Isolation tanks. Exploring London in 1980. Concert memories in Los Angeles, wah pedals, regrets and so much more - including a deep dive into the cassette archive. Above: Missy, who was constipated. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Caprice" by Chris Yale - circa 1981 3:50 - Greetings and about the song / Original band, Yale / KROQ / Tascam 144 Portastudio / Eurythmics / Springsteen Nebraska 5:34 - The Gay Dolphin turns 75 / Seashells / Tchotchkes / Shell wholesalers / Beachwear Stores / Hermit crab hermitage / Are crabs still a thing? 7:58 - The crow at our last gig / Chris' spirit animal 9:00 - More Gay Dolphin 9:35 - Hobcaw Barony / Legends in Concert / Brookgreen Gardens / Vereen Memorial Gardens / Wishing Tree / Goat Island / Bird Island 12:08 - Roger's daughter went to Ireland, but her luggage stayed in Amsterdam 12:33 - Isolation tanks / "Altered States" / Sensory deprivation / Ego / Tripping in the tank 15:09 - Tours of the mind 15:22 - Exploring London in 1980 / The White House Hotel / The stolen Gideons Bible / Dad wouldn't let us go to Paris / Gilles and Maryanne Kohler / Our gone-too-soon friend Pascal and his guitar sound 18:14 - Les Pauls versus Strats and Telecasters 19:23 - Roger wanted to hitchhike to NYC at 18 - working odd jobs in towns along the way / Chris' similar plans 20:23 - Losses and regrets / X-Men number 1 and other comics 23:35 - Artists we've seen the most / Springsteen / Elton John 24:10 - Sparks at the Greek / Tears for Fears at the Forum 24:47 - The Roxy / Chris with The Real Impossibles / Marc Platt / Kenny Rankin / Thomas Dolby / Bob Seger / The Rainbow 25:57 - "Hey baby - we have beer and pot." / Guilty by association / Asking for the sale 27:44 - Chris' earbuds / Revolver / Rubber Soul / No music while reading or writing 28:55 - More Beatles talk 29:50 - Crybaby Wah Pedal / Wah Wah Watson / More Beatles 30:52 - COVID-19 is going up again 32:55 - Stupid motivational sayings / Bob Dylan "Man of Peace" / "Curators" / 15 Inside / The hubris of youth / Entitled little pricks / Grownups suck 35:48 - Our gig at North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina / More about the place / What goes on in those campers  37:04 - "If I Had a Rocket Launcher" / Bruce Cockburn's last name is not pronounced like it's spelled, and no wonder / Dick Butkus / Unfortunate last names 39:38 - Missy was constipated / Parting shots / Roger lost a bet / "Life By the Drop" / "Key To the Highway" / James Coburn

This episode, Chris compares two versions of one of his songs before the twins jump down a rabbit hole - talking life at 58, songwriting, recording studio shenenigans, the absurdity of drinking while tripping - and so much more. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Something I Remember" by Chris Yale - Original Reflector version 4:11 - Greetings and about the song 5:50 - "Something I Remember" by Chris Yale - from the album, "Well Enough Alone" 9:06 - Cutting the baby in half / Old Testament 10:01 - Happy birthday to us - thoughts on 58 / Peter Murphy / "Deep" 11:19 - Living in the now / Wiser? / Demons / Innocuous Nigel / Is Rog smart? / The new cash registers 13:35 - On songwriting / Writing fast / Ideas sometimes just show up 14:36 - Gordon Lightfoot documentary / More about Lightfoot 15:39 - More about songwriting 16:15 - Recording studio experiences / Mystic Sound / Steve Fuji / Paramount / Roger Dollarhide / Ian Whitcomb / Lee Allen / Big Jay McNeely / Ronnie Barron 18:12 - More about Dollarhide / Kepex / Paul Rothchild / Paramount tape vault / Master tapes / Old tapes 20:16 - Echo Sound / Lee Newman / Leon Russell / Paradise Records / Paid in weed / Skyline Studios Topanga Canyon 20:16 - People think Chris is a stoner / "Flower" / "Flowers for Algernon" / Ian Talcroft / Sound Image North Hollywood / Glen Matisoff / Peder Rudling / Soldano Amplifier / Tripping at A&M Studios / Berlin video shoot on Soul Train sound stage 24:43 - The absurdity of drinking while tripping or tweaking 25:21 - Hamster International Records / KROQ / EFX Studios 26:12 - Are we who we thought we would be? 27:20 - Chris knows how Rog is 27:45 - More Lightfoot 28:26 - Little Free Libraries / Bobby Rydell autobiography / Tommy Steele / Dion is not dead 32:31 - "The Tao of Pooh" & "The Te of Piglet" / Taosim 34:03 - "Bosch" / Titus Welliver / Michael Connelly 35:08 - "Nobody" with Bob Odenkirk / Neil Diamond / "Loudermilk"

Recorded on July 4th, the twins discuss their recent back-to-back shows in Myrtle Beach and go deep about growing up in Coconut Grove, Florida - with side trips about fireworks, Bob Dylan shows, cats, cycling adventures, twins and more - including another tune from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "A Different Light" by Chris Yale - Original Reflector version 3:54 - Greetings and about the song / Ian Talcroft / Stare Cat Sound Glendale, CA 5:41 - Back-to-back gigs / Cats at Chris' house / The fox (for real) outside Roger's place / "Fleabag" / Phoebe Waller-Bridge 8:08 - The Old Bull and Bush Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Schlepping our P.A. 10:00 - St. Hugh School Coconut Grove / Katie Casey, "That's a bunch of baloney" / The English New Yorker / Potential soccer riot 12:11 - Fireworks we had as kids / Bottle rocket battles / The cannons / "The Gat" / Our blank guns / "Sing Me Back Home" 17:22 - Death row and capital punishment / "Jail or 'Nam" / Compulsory military service 18:32 - Pineapples and swingers 20:08 - Psychic pain / "Grasping the heel" / More about twins / the twin neighbor kid 21:31 - 2340 Tigertail Court, our childhood home in Coconut Grove / Crabs / The sinkhole / Buried treasure / The 1920s land boom in and around Miami / Our brother sold the house 23:44 - About Coconut Grove / Jim Morrison obscenity / The Doors / Dinner Key Auditorium / Biscayne Bay / Dixie Highway / "The Hippie Place" / Lum's / Coconut Grove Pharmacy / Eskill's Clog Shop / Grove Folk Facebook Page / Dad's coffee houses / Briarwood Singers / Revisiting the Grove / Mercy Hospital / Vizcaya / MontyTrainer's / 1920s hurricane / Coral Gables / Silver Bluff / Silver Bluff Elementary / Hurricane Carter 28:56 - Bob Dylan / "Rolling Thunder Revue" / Dylan and Tom Petty at Irvine Meadows / Dylan and Willie Nelson in Myrtle Beach / Dylan at the Greek Theatre Los Angeles / G.E. Smith 32:30 - "Echo in the Canyon" / Laurel Canyon 33:00 - Chris' bicycling adventures over Laurel Canyon and to San Diego with David Valentine and Jim Alden 36:07 - Roger freaked out Miles (Chris' toddler grandson) / Rubber Ducky Shark / Elijah (Chris' older grandson) 28:23 - Parting shots / "Only Yesterday" / Bruce Tegner / Wallace Stegner / Stegosaurus / California Blonde amp (SWR) / When freebase became crack

The twins discuss whether or not you can go home again and the difference between memories, dreams and reality when it comes to places. But there's more, including Chris' take on songwriting, owning music versus streaming, the early days of blogging and podcasting - and another original tune from the archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Cuttin' Me Loose" by Chris Yale 3:45 - Greetings and about the song / Solipsism / Ed Dennis / Atlantic Coast Recording 5:07 - "Nice little songs" / Chris on songwriting 6:41 - Manassas / Stephen Stills / Tip-of-the-iceberg versus going deep 7:33 - Early days of blogging and podcasting / Charleston Post and Courier / Dave Slusher / Evil Genius Chronicles / Roger's blog 9:18 - Managing content queues / Owning music / vinyl 12:00 - Martha Davis / The Motels / Cyndi Lauper / Blue Angel / Sinead O'Connor / Stan Ridgway / Wall of Voodoo 13:48 - Suzanne Vega / Mom's Vega / Chris' lost suitcase 14:33 - Thomas Wolfe / "You Can't Go Home Again" / Can we ever really go home again? / Would Chris go back to Hollywood? / Dreams and memories versus reality / Hollywood views / Yamashiro 17:17 - Missing Hollywood / Random coolness / The deer at Franklin and Orange / Hollywood Hills 18:35 The journey isn't over yet 18:58 - More about the archive / Cassettes / Digitizing 19:15 - Original music versus cover gigs / Balance / Embodying the music 20:33 - The milk of human kindness and "Somerset Coward" 21:49 - Saving stuff to sift through later / Missing letters between Mom and Dad / Secrets 23:57 - Parting shots / Johnny Mercer's "Alphabet Soup" insult / Paraquat Kelley

The twins run the gamut from Father's Day to misheard lyrics to tripping in Hollywood, sobriety, books, stolen Ray-Bans and much more - including an unearthed and digitized song from a 1989 gig at what became The Viper Room in Hollywood. Above: Twins at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "I Call Your Name" by Chris Yale - live at The Central (Viper Room) Hollywood, 1989 3:13 - Greetings and about the song / Kirby and the Gators / More about The Central 5:40 - Tempo and live performance / Playing in the moment 7:13 - Misheard lyrics / "Sweet Caroline" / Neil Diamond / J. Cole / R.E.M. / Michael Stipe 11:54 - Being misunderstood / Roger's blog post about that 12:43 - Father's Day, again / Our adult children / Chris' son-in-law / Chris' grandchildren Elijah and Miles / Dad Carl Yale / Dead Dads 15:00 - Dad taught us how to read / "We Three" & "We Three and Scottie" / Dad sang to us / Tap lessons 16:30 - Sobriety 17:58 - Tripping in Hollywood / Our friend the parking meter 19:41 - Dad died on our 21st birthday / "Man's Search for Meaning" / Viktor Frankl 21:07 - Loaning books that were never returned / Joe Smith, "Off the Record" / "South Carolina: A History" by Walter Edgar 22:29 - The stolen Ray-Bans / The almost-stolen Walkman / Good money after bad 25:27 - On taking action 26:28 - The baby twins at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Twin life / Dad would be 106 / Superstition, pseudo-religiosity and flawed thinking 30:15 - "Only Yesterday: An Informal History of the 1920s" by Frederick Lewis Allen and Guy Foster / "Crossing to Safety" by Wallace Stegner / "The Letters of Noel Coward" edited by Barry Day / Book Buyers Charlotte / Cats in bookstores / Blue Bicycle Books Charleston / "White Bicycles: Making Music in the 1960s" by Joe Boyd 34:00 - Digitizing 34:09 - Being foiled in dreams 35:48 - Andre De Shields