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nfl nfl week 7 so jim denver dave

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2019 69:10

Week 7 of the NFL is already finished. So Jim and Denver Dave have a look at what transpired. As well as paying tribute to one of the greats who retired last week, as well as player trades that were in the books as of Thursday afternoon! After that, the boys look ahead to the Week 8 match ups and the King Vs the People. N.B The King's carrier pigeon was bit slow delivering his picks for Week 8 but we have them now and you can see them on the King Vs the People page of the website. N.B.2 the phone interference noise is all Dave's fault for leaving his phone next to the mic! It won't happen again :)

Episode #12 – Jim Galvin – Miracle Ford’s Involvement as a Community Advocate and Partner

Miracle Ford Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2019 15:49

For this week’s episode of Miracle Ford podcast, host John Haggard talks to Jim Galvin, Miracle Ford’s General Manager, about the company’s altruistic efforts. This 15-minute chat covers: Jim’s Humble Beginnings at Miracle FordBreast Cancer Awareness MonthThe Company’s Support for the Susan G Komen’s OrganizationFord’s “Drive for your School” Program“Galvin Cares”, The Company’s Christmas Program“Best Buddies” ProgramThe Story Behind Miracle Ford’s “Gong”The Miracle Auto GroupMiracle Ford’s Future PlansHow to Connect with Jim Galvin Transcript John Haggard 0:02 Welcome to the Miracle Ford podcast where throughout the month you’ll be able to learn the best ways to purchase, lease, service and maintain, accessorize, and sell your vehicle for the highest resale value possible when you’re ready to do it. You’ll also find out about new technology on new vehicles. I’m your host, John Haggard and throughout each month right here, we’ll have different team members join us from Miracle Ford to bring you tips you can use. You’ll also see a transcript of each podcast so you can easily refer back to it something maybe you heard want to get it at your fingertips, not have to listen to the entire podcast again. It’s all typewritten, right there for you. Today we’re visiting again with Jim Galvin. He’s the general manager of Miracle Ford in Gallatin. Today’s topic is what Miracle Ford does off the field so to speak as a community advocate and partner. So hey, Jim, welcome to the podcast. Jim Galvin 0:53 John, good afternoon. Great to be back. John Haggard 0:56 Well, glad to have you back. You know, since we spoke last we learned how you started out in the car business. I think back in 1984 you were washing cars for your dad if I recall properly working your way up through college at MTSU and that you got to then work in each department at Miracle Ford. I think you said you were a service advisor, then over to the parts counter, over to the used car sales department, to sales manager, to GSM – general sales manager, and now to general manager as well as part owner. Did I get all that right? Jim Galvin 1:28 ou got all that right. It seemed like yesterday believe it or not. Time flies. John Haggard 1:32 It does! I counted that up about well, maybe over 33 years, I guess that you have been doing this? Jim Galvin 1:41 It’s amazing, it really is. The car business has been good to me and my family and our community and I just can’t thank it enough. John Haggard 1:48 Well, it you know, time really does fly, there’s no question about it. You know, as we know that October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. And Miracle Ford’s been involved in helping increase awareness of this disease really for some time now. Tell us, there are a lot of charities out there, a lot of individuals and companies that a company like Miracle Ford could support. How did you or how did Miracle Ford become involved with breast cancer? Jim Galvin 2:11 It got started probably about 15 years ago, we partner with Ford Motor Company, and they were really big with Susan G. Komen. And we all know with Susan G. Komen is the world’s largest non-profit breast cancer organization. You know, funded breast cancer research by providing real-time health, for those that really need it because of this bad disease. And we decided, you know what, we want to partner with Ford Motor Company, and we wanted to go a little bit more extra. So we and Ford Motor Company came out with a program, which was a great program. It was called and it still called today is the Ford Warriors in Pink. And what that means, and what our mission is, is to dedicate helping those that are touched by breast cancer through actions, support, inspire, empower, things that we could do to help make this disease get rid of it, and we could support it tremendously. Now Ford Motor Company has been doing this for a long time. I mean, they’ve been doing this since 1993. And we felt like you know what, we want to make things even better. So our dealership promotes breast cancer awareness, Susan G. Komen in the month of October and we decorate, John, our whole dealership in pink. And it’s pretty cool. Our sales department, our parts department, supervisors all dress and pink. And we donate funds. Now when I say funds, like for every new car, Rio, every part that sold, for every service come in, we give a portion of our profit to Susan G. Komen Warriors in Pink. So we can make this a research where we could really fight this disease and make someone or some people happy. John Haggard 4:06 Got it. Well, you know, we also understand that Ford has a drive for your school event each year. And I think you have been participating in that as well. Jim Galvin 4:15 I am at the program which, think about, is the program for local communities, schools, I say schools, high schools, grade schools, middle schools, for all their athletic programs, their music, and art programs, whatever programs that they want, they need to make money. And it’s hard for schools to make money because they got to work so hard. Car washes, bake sales… this seems like it’s not enough money out there. Ford Motor Company came out with a program and this program is called “Drive for your School”. And they have raised over $50 million in the last 12 years. John Haggard 4:56 Wow. Jim Galvin 4:58 And it’s very simple. I mean, we dedicate cars to the school. And we get people to drive cars. And for every test drive, and they don’t have to drive very far, Ford donates – this is Ford Motor Company – donates $20 per test drive up to $6,000. John Haggard 5:15 Man, yeah. Wow. Jim Galvin 5:18 Take 300 drivers in a period of two and a half to three hours, it’s a lot of money. And when they see this check it’s like, you know what we could do so much with this. And it works. I have schools call me during the spring and fall, can I get involved in this “Drive for your School”, it’s a great fundraiser, we need it. And I try to support every school and community in Summer County where our home is at Miracle Ford. And I try to make sure that we can get the $6,000 to them because they deserve it. It’s hard for schools to make money. And I think what Ford Motor Company is doing, with where we’d give them the vehicles for them to test drive, is fantastic. It’s probably one of the best programs I’ve ever seen. It’s probably the easiest fundraising program I’ve ever witnessed. John Haggard 6:03 You know, it really is just sit down in the car, turn it on, put your foot on the accelerator, and then on the brake and you’re and you’re done. Little short distance there. That’s so that’s a wonderful idea. You said how many years that’s been going on? Jim Galvin 6:15 They’re going on their 12th year. John Haggard 6:16 Okay. All right, 12th year, 12th year. Jim Galvin 6:18 And think about that. I mean, they do it twice a year, spring and fall, and think about all the dealerships around the United States. But over 50 million, it’s just amazing how much of the community that Ford Motor Company is involved in. And what we’re doing here in our local area with summer County. John Haggard 6:35 $50 million! I mean that’s phenomenal! I mean, so what a number that is, and I guess there are some other community events as well that Miracle Ford participates in. Jim Galvin 6:46 We support Galvin cares during Christmas time. Yeah, all of their canned goods. We like to help people that need it the most with the food. And we go out and gather all the canned goods we can. We fill it up in the back of the pickup truck, which is absolutely filled overboard over the bed. And then they come and pick it up and it gives a way of them feeding people. And we try to do that every year. One of my favorite and most down to heart is called the best buddies program. And to me, it goes back to my values into my family and enter the best buddy event we’ve been doing now for the last four years. Anthony K. Shriver, the founder, and CEO of this program, and he started his program in 1984. And what this program is, John was best buddy. It’s kids with intellectual and developmental disabilities that don’t have a chance to do things like things that we would want to do. And if you think about it, John, I mean, my child or anybody that goes to school, and they sit by themselves, and they see other kids with other people, or they go to a store or go bowling, it can’t do these things because they have this disability. Best Buddies brings this out to them. It’s a way that you can interact with these kids. And I say these kids are special, they want to be treated like other people. John Haggard 8:10 Right. Jim Galvin 8:11 And they become their friends and they go out and do things with them. You know, they go to movies with them, they go to social events, they go to proms. I mean, we dedicate Miracle Ford each year, the Best Buddy prom at Bridgestone Arena. And these kids, I mean, it’s a delight. They dress up in their prom uniforms, tuxedos, gowns, and they actually go to prom. The Nashville Predators also sponsors this and they do it in their arena Bridgestone, on the floor. And we have bands and a DJ and dance and the Predators come out and join them. It’s exactly like an actual prom because most of these kids are able to go to dances but this gives a way of them to finally say, “Hey, I’m part of things that I want to be!” And I think this program is fantastic and well representative and it’s really dear to my heart. John Haggard 9:05 You know if somebody wanted to find out more about Best Buddies here in the Nashville area, is it here in Nashville for the eight-county Metro? How does that work? Jim Galvin 9:14 Absolutely. They got they’ve got chapters in Nashville, Knoxville, Memphis. I mean, this thing has become worldwide. It’s a good non-profit event. Lot of these college kids in the area. Vanderbilt’s real big on it, David Lipscomb, high school people are involved. And when you see kids in high school, college involved and want to be part of Best Buddies, that means a lot. That means there’s something special with them that they want to help these kids and I think it’s fantastic. John Haggard 9:43 Yeah, that’s really from the heart when you get the youth involved as well. That’s for sure. No doubt, John. No doubt. On another topic, just for a moment, we understand that recently, inside Miracle Ford, a gong has been installed in the showroom. We heard that from Jim Odell, whom we spoke to last week. And but we also understand it was your idea. What is that? Tell us about the gong at Miracle Ford? Jim Galvin 10:09 Well, it’s something I thought about, you know, late at night when I can’t sleep or something’s on my mind. I want people to remember us when they purchase a vehicle. And a lot of times when you purchase a vehicle and you come out of the F&I office, it’s usually “Thank you very much”, then the salesperson comes and shows you all about the vehicle, then you go away. We like to go and introduce the customer to the PA system. You know, “Mr. Mrs. Jones, thank you so much for purchasing your 2019 F-150. Please come over to the gong and ring it!” John Haggard 10:42 Yeah Jim Galvin 10:43 Well, we create excitement. And they get to this big gong with the paddle on there and they bang it. And when you bang it this, this thing is pretty loud. And it goes throughout the whole dealership. And I want other people in the dealership, not only our employees but other people here you know, service or whatever, to hear this gossip. What in the world was that? It just creates excitement, John, it’s something different. It may be a little goofy, but it’s just something that customers will remember. It gives a good way for us to say thank you for your business. And we definitely want you back. John Haggard 11:16 Yeah, so you said late at night, and sometimes when you can’t sleep. So did you have a dream or like where the gong idea itself actually comes from? Jim Galvin 11:25 Actually, it came from my brother in law, who was in the sign business. I had to go to his office in Nashville. I went in there, it was in the backroom, there was a small Gong on the desk. I said what in the world is this? So I picked up the paddle and I just bang the gong, just for the heck of it. And all sudden it just, it just rang and then he comes running out. And I started thinking you know what? I mean, why not do that at the dealership, people can hear it. So that’s where it came from was from my brother in law, the original. John Haggard 11:56 We also are noticing there’s a lot of marketing these days for the miracle Auto Group. Tell us a little bit about that. Jim Galvin 12:04 Yes. We got two stores, as we all know, it’s Miracle Ford and Miracle Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and RAM. And we’re very close together. And with this day and age and was expenses being so high, my brother and I decided, let’s put this thing together, make it one, Miracle Auto Group. And let’s, you know, let’s get our phone systems on one. Let’s get our CRM or computers on one. Let’s make this thing one. And tell people that hey, it’s all about the Miracle Auto Group. What we’re trying to do is reignite everything into one local auto group. Right now, last week, we just became paperless. You know, that’s a big thing in the dealership so we’re learning as we go on. But it’s the same as expenses. we’re promoting it as one dealership, which it should be. That way everybody has the Miracle Auto feeling good when they come to both stores. John Haggard 12:56 All right. Is there anything that I did not ask you that you would want folks to know either about you or Miracle Ford or Miracle Chrysler Dodge Jeep RAM or any current or maybe some future initiatives, things that will be unfolding that we can take, you know, look forward to? Jim Galvin 13:13 I just want people to always remember, you know, we’ve been here 34 years. The name Miracle stands out in Sumner County and it always will be. And hopefully down the road, we are looking at a new property, I could tell you that we’ve got a lot next door to the Chrysler store. We just committed to building we hadn’t decided what we’re going to do yet but in the next six months, you’re going to see some action regarding that. John Haggard 13:40 That’s exciting. And you know when you drive into Gallatin, or anywhere near there now I see rooftops construction. I mean, just seems like in the last two or three years things have exploded.there. We’re the third fastest-growing county in Middle Tennessee. Everything’s coming out this way. We just got a new Honda dealership. Subaru is going across the street, more restaurants coming to this area. Gallatin is becoming the next you know, Brentwood, Franklin. I mean, people want to come out this way. It’s affordable. You know, it’s just a good, good, good vibe, in Sumner County. And I think everybody who lives Sumner County is welcoming all the new growth. And I just think it’s exciting. And you’re going to see some good things down the road as the years come. Yeah. So Jim, if people want to get in touch with you, I know you’re busy you’ve got a lot of things going on. What’s the best way? Jim Galvin 14:35 I’m usually here every day. I’m not the type to sit in my office and avoid phone calls. I love phone calls. I love the input suggestions, good or bad. That’s what I’m here for. You can contact me, you know, mainly every day. I’m off on Thursday, but I’m here on Saturday. So please, I mean, I will get messages. You know, regardless if I’m not here, but usually the best way to contact me is this call the dealership because I want to be here and I want to make sure I get every phone call and have customers that really need it the most. John Haggard 15:07 Alrighty. That’s Jim Galvin, everybody. He’s the general manager at Miracle Ford in Gallatin with that update and join us throughout the month right here where you will also be able to learn the best ways to purchase, lease, service and maintain, accessorize and sell your vehicle for the highest resale value possible when you’re ready. If you haven’t had a chance to listen to some of the other podcasts all those topics, they’re right here on the site where you are right now. And don’t forget the transcript of each podcast right here on the website as well so that you can easily refer to it for information at your fingertips. I’m your host, John haggard, and we will see you next time.

Episode 5: Jay Double You! [P-FUNK]

Aced Out Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2019 120:02

JIM WRIGHT (now Jay Double You!) was just 12 years old when his big sister Debbie Wright’s bandmates—George Clinton, Bootsy, and the rest of Parliament-Funkadelic—started hanging out at his mother’s house in Detroit. In fact, Tiki Fulwood gave little Jim his first pair of drumsticks. And by the time he was in his late teens, he was already making a good living as a session player for legendary producer Don Davis at the local funk lab, United Sound.But it was Parliament OG-vocalist Fuzzy Haskins who officially gave Wright his big break with the P. Fuzzy told the kid he had just two takes to make it in—Wright killed it in one, performing with no less than Glenn Goins, Garry Shider, and Boogie Mosson. By the late 70s, young Jim was not only the drummer for his sister Deb’s vocal trio PARLET, but also the original leader of the band. On top of all that, he played on tracks that became part of Bernie Worrell’s classic solo debut, All the Woo in the World.But just as Clinton (or “G” as Jay Dub sometimes calls him) was about to propel the Wright siblings’ careers to the next level, tragedy befell the sister—causing a series of events that affected her brother deeply. So Jim returned to work with Davis, under whom he studied the art of songwriting and producing. Soon he had learned so much that he went independent, reinventing himself as Jay Double You! and putting out a string of his own funktastic albums.In this awe-inspiring but laughter-filled interview, Jay Dub spits deep game about playing in the pocket, gives numerous fly-on-the-wall accounts of the creation of such funk staples as “Flashlight,” and shares personal anecdotes involving Eddie Hazel, Gary “Mudbone” Cooper, and many other big-time funkateers. But that’s not all. Dub also waxes poetic on the cold realties of the music biz, drum machines vs. the human soul, and the importance of positive messages.

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Episode #8 – Jim Morgan – Finance Manager on the 2020 Ford Explorer

Miracle Ford Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2019 8:39

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This is a great episode, so be sure to sit back, relax, and enjoy! is the job of a Finance ManagerHow getting great loan rates are still possible with low or challenged creditA deep dive into the 2020 Ford ExpeditionWhat makes Miracle different Welcome to the Miracle Ford podcast where each week you will be able to learn the best ways to purchase lease service and maintain, accessorize and sell your vehicle for the highest resale value possible when you’re ready to do it. And you’ll also find out about new technology on new vehicles. I’m your host John Haggard and throughout each month, right here we’ll have different team members join us from Miracle Ford to bring you tips you can use. You will also see a transcript of each podcast so that you can easily refer to it for information to have at your fingertips. Today’s topic is the new 2020 Ford Explorer and what’s changed since the original Explorer was released and also some financing information for those who are looking on best ways, quickest ways, fastest ways to get financed. On the podcast we have with us, Jim Morgan, he’s the Finance Manager at Miracle Ford. Hey Jim, welcome to the podcast. Hey John, thank you for having me. Glad to, glad to have you along. You know, people always want to know who’s behind the curtain, who’s behind the voice, who is this guy? So tell us a little bit about you, your background. Where did you grow up, Jim? Well, I grew up here in Nashville. I’ve been here all my life. Started in the car business in 1993 after several years working in the hospitality industry. Okay. So what were you doing in hospitality? I managed hotels and restaurants. Okay. Well such a big switch from that to automotive. How did you get into automotive? How did you bridge that gap? It’s about the same. It’s the same kind of the business. You’re still dealing with people. So that’s, that’s basically how I was able to move into it. And then how did you wind up at Miracle Ford In 2002 I went to work for Tim Galvin, at Miracle Chrysler as Finance Manager. Been with them ever since. All right. So and then since 2002 so that would make it about, what, 17 going on 18 years. That’s correct. Gotcha. All right. So as Finance Manager, people understand, okay, well he manages finance, but what exactly is your role at Miracle Ford in terms of Finance Manager? What can you do for someone who’s coming in to try to get financed? Well, we are going to offer the best programs that we have available for our customers, especially the customers that may feel like that they have the credit issues that maybe keep them from buying a car. Credit scores aren’t what they used to be. I mean there are many cases where you see some lower scores. It’s still git, very good rates. I had one over the weekend, I get as low as 1.9% so you have to be able to look at it in the big picture in order to structure a deal to make it work for both the customer and the bank. Well you know the old perception is, well if you have a low credit score, the only thing you’re going to be able to buy, if you can buy, is a junker clunker or something that it might be eight or 10 years old. So your saying even with challenged credit, it’s possible to get a a new vehicle, a lease or purchase at at 1.9% in that particular case The 1.9% was a on a purchase of a new Expedition. So yeah, I mean you can buy pretty much whenever you can, you know, whatever you care to buy. So what’s changed? I mean why now Jim is it that with a, we’ll just call it challenged credit or less than you know, high credit that someone would be able to not only get into a new vehicle but at a good rate. Why, why now versus a few years ago? One thing I’ve seen is that there are more opportunities depending on the cars and also the customer. I mean the credit score is not their whole story either. I mean most of the time they’ve got great history and employment history, residence history, things like that all add up. So you have to take the whole picture when you’re getting a customer taken care of with a bank. Okay. So you think they take a more of a 360 degree view today versus a few years ago when they just would only look at the score and say yes or no? That’s exactly right. We’re also talking today about the new and exciting 2020 Ford Explorer SUV. Kind of hard to believe that 2020 models are here and when you hear about the Ford Explorer SUV, you also hear things like, well there’s the XLT, there’s the limited, there’s the s t and the platinum, and sometimes the model names can be confusing, but just basically tell us a little bit about the Ford Explorer and the different models in terms of what the differences are. But really I think what people want to know about most is what’s cool about the Ford Explorer, what’s going on? Well, everything’s cool about the new Explorer because it’s a whole new body style. We’ve revamped it top to bottom. One of the things that I really like about the new Explorer is now rear wheel drive meaning instead of the front pulling it when it was with the front wheel drive. Now it’s going to be pushing. The overall length has changed. The rear of the truck is now a little bit longer, which is going to increase the towing experience. The towing on a new Explorer can be up to 5,600 pounds, which is a lot larger than it’s ever been before. And also with that design, it’s going to give a better ride and handling to a better weight distribution on the truck. All right. You know, and I think I was doing a little bit of research before calling you that the Explorer was the first four door SUV that was produced by Ford, I think back in 1991 to replace the two-door Bronco. I remember the Broncos. Is that about right? That sounds about right. I know it’s a year or two before I got into the business, but I think that’s exactly right. Right. And, and the site also say this is now the sixth generation, if I read that properly, six. That is correct. Wow. I mean that’s, that’s something, what do you see in terms of new and exciting technology? You know, we’ve got so much technology with Wifi and everything fi all over the place, everybody’s connected all here and there. What’s going on in the Explorer that’s cool about technology? Well, it starts everywhere. We’ve now have a tenant screen that’s in the middle of the, of the stack for your navigation and all your controls. It’s also handy. Everything’s just right there for you to see. And then you go into like the st truck and the st Explorer is straight out of the racing division of Ford. So you really got a performance vehicle in the new Explorer. And also John, we now have a hybrid Explorer, which is really exciting, but the hybrid can get up to 500 miles of a tank of fuel, but also it can still tow 5,000 pounds, which is really unheard of when you talk about a hybrid vehicle. So Jim, what would you tell people about Miracle Ford in terms of why they should buy at Miracle as opposed to other Ford dealers? Because every dealer out there as you know, is going to say, hey, you know, we’re going to give you the best deal. We’re the best. We got the best customer service and all this kind of thing. What is it that makes Miracle Ford different now that you’ve been there? What do we say, 18 years? Well, soon to be 17. The thing I see is the people, I mean, you can go and look at the numbers of a car and they’re within $100 of each other. And I mean they’re, everybody’s got them. Everybody pays the same. However, it’s the people from the Galvin family who’s been here since they opened this in 1980. I mean, they’ve been, they’ve been strong community people. And I mean, we all work towards the same goal. We’re here to take care of our customers first. And you know, I have a lot of special customers that just call me and you know, and so it’s, it’s the family approach that we use here to take care of our customers. That’s Jim Morgan, everybody, the Finance Manager and Miracle Ford. Join us again for other topics on the podcast throughout each month because our goal here is to help you learn the best ways to purchase service, maintain, accessorize, and sell your vehicle for the highest resale value possible when you’re ready. And also to find out about latest technology on new vehicles like we did here just a few minutes ago. And don’t forget, we also post a transcript of each podcast right here on the website for quick reference. I’m your host John Haggard, and we’ll see you next time.

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203 - Weather and Whiskey with Jim Cantore of The Weather Channel

Bourbon Pursuit

Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2019 65:11

This guest gets more TV face time than The Bachelorette. He has built up a big fan base among weather geeks and now Jim Cantore of The Weather Channel joins Bourbon Pursuit to talk about his career, braving crazy storms, and how weather patterns and global warming are affecting today’s bourbon stocks. We also get to hear a funny story shared by Jim and Fred as they were drilling barrels of whiskey together at Jack Daniels. This episode gives you a look into Jim’s everyday life and how bourbon became a part of it. Show Partners: Barrell Craft Spirits blends and bottles at cask strength just as nature intended. Find out more at BarrellBourbon.com. Receive $25 off your first order with code "Pursuit" at RackhouseWhiskeyClub.com. Show Notes: The Curation Desk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fSTu8zbAwM Chuck Cowdery’s Top Bourbon List https://chuckcowdery.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-best-bourbons-ever.html Pursuit Series Episodes 010 and 011 https://pursuitspirits.com/ This week’s Above the Char with Fred Minnick talks about whiskey decanters. How did you get involved in weather? When did you start drinking whiskey? After you first started drink bourbon, what were you seeking out in the store or bar? What's the strangest thing anyone has said to you in public? Do you get annoyed that people associate you with disasters? Do you get a high being in bad weather? Do you ever get panicked in certain weather situations? When you celebrate a job well done, what do you drink? Tell us about your interest in cars. Was deflategate real? Can your joints hurt from weather changes? Does increased rain impact a microclimate? Waters are rising around distilleries. How will it impact the warehouses? Will the rain affect the white oak trees? Do you predict any climate shifts in the Kentucky area that could affect bourbon? Tell us about the time you picked out a barrel with Fred. How does humidity affect barrels? Jim Cantore Website/Social https://jimcantore.tv/ 0:00 You know, I think I get hit on more now that I look like this that I did when I had a full head of jet black hair. 0:08 What's your wife think about that? Honestly, I think it turns her on. 0:24 This is Episode 203 of bourbon pursuit. I'm one of your host, Kenny Coleman. And there really wasn't a whole lot of news that happened in the whiskey world from our major distilleries out there. So I figured let's look at some highlights of recent news articles and videos from the past week. Fred Minnick, you know him as another host on here, but he also has his own YouTube series called The curation desk. Sometimes it's about bourbon and rum reviews. Other times you get just good nuggets information. And this past week, he released a video on a very unusual topic. I'm not going to spoil it for you, but 1:00 involved in illegal activity that accounted for more American whiskey sales that then in turn led to the temperance movement in the mid 1800s. You're going to really enjoy this one, so make sure you go and check out the link in our show notes. friend of the show, Chuck cowdery came out with his list of his favorite Bourbons of all time. Only six top this list and most of them are unicorns. Very, very old Fitzgerald Parker's blend to mash bills. But there's a surprising one on there. And that's wild turkeys Kentucky spirit. Yes, the widely available and abundantly on the shelves Kentucky spirit. You can read all of his tasting notes plus the entire list within our show notes as well. You heard me talk about on the show two weeks ago, but we have now opened up our recent pursuit series bottlings to the public. Episode 10 is one we're super excited for. It's our collaboration with Finger Lakes distilling. It's a five year we did mash bill bottled as 2:00 barrel proof. And as much as to our knowledge, it is the only one in existence that's out there. It tastes like you're chewing on a piece of Juicy Fruit gum. So you're going to notice a subtle nod to that in our show notes. And this is priced at $65. Episode 11 is like a salted caramel coming in at 10 years from our Tennessee stock of bourbon, and it's priced at $75. The links to pick these up are in our show notes and you can read more about them at pursuit spirits.com. We've recently sold out of episode six and are running very low in episode seven. So don't sit around and wait for these. Today's guest gets more FaceTime than the bachelorette. He's built up a big fan base amongst weather geeks. And now Jim Cantore of the Weather Channel joins bourbon pursuit to talk about his career. braving those crazy storms you see in viral videos, and how weather patterns and global warming are starting to affect today's bourbon stocks. We also get the 3:00 funny stories shared by Jim and Fred as they were drilling barrels together at jack daniels. This episode gives you a look into Jim's everyday life and how bourbon became a part of it. As a side note, this was a very timely episode. This podcast talks about the current climate and how Jim predicted the current tornado outbreak that's affecting Oklahoma in the recent weeks. And our thoughts and prayers are with the families affected during this time. But with that, let's hear from our good friend Joe over at barrell bourbon. And then you've got Fred Minnick with above the char. 3:37 Hi, this is Joe from barrell bourbon. We blend and bottle a cast drink, just as nature intended. You can find it on the shelves at your nearest retail store. 3:47 I'm Fred Minnick. And this is above the char. I'll never forget this moment. I was in a room and cognac France with a bunch of spirits professionals. The fire was crackling. We were drinking some 4:00 Fresh cognac out of the barrel, and we started debating how cognac was marketing itself. We all had some type of criticism for how that they were pursuing new markets and we all love cognac and to this day, I love cognac. It's a wonderful branding. And one of my big criticisms was around Louie. Louie the 13th bottle. It's like 1500 to $5,000 in Las Vegas. It's a $15,000 bottle. And it's in this beautiful You know, Crystal decanter that really does look like it's fit for a king. But we don't know what's inside it. The cognac maker. You know, Remy Martin never really revealed what was inside the bottle. That was 10 years ago. And today we're starting to see that happen and bourbon. You're seeing these fancy fancy bottles come out nice decanters really crafted and just look or Nate and 5:00 Beautiful. Woodford Reserve just came out with one bad rap bottle. It's going for 1500 dollars. Now brown Forman is always transparent about what's inside the bottle. And they were transparent with this as well. But no one's really spending 1500 dollars to get the whiskey. It's for the decanter. And I To this day, think that those decanters, well nice and they're very decorative and they add a nice little element to to the home. I think they devalue the whiskey a little bit. Because when you are buying something for the bottle, you're not buying it for the whiskey. So there's got to be a happy medium. How do we get past this desire to attract the ultra rich without stabbing the regular guys in the eye? You know, I think there's got to be a happy medium, but how do we get there? Do we lessen the decanter do we put better whiskey in the bottle 6:00 I don't know. But I do know this. When I see a 1500 dollar decanter of American whiskey, it leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. And I haven't even tasted the bourbon yet. And that's this week's above the charm. Hey, if you have an idea for above the char like someone did for this one, hit me up on Twitter or Instagram. That's at Fred Minnick. Again. That's at Fred Minnick. Until next week. Cheers. 6:27 Welcome back to the episode of bourbon pursuit, the official podcast of bourbon, Kenny and Fred here today talking about, you're talking to a person that's in a business that kind of affects a lot of what happens inside of bourbon in itself, because we talked about Kentucky bourbon, really making an impact and really how the climate here makes it happen as well. But you know, we're not going to talk about just that. We're in talking about the personality behind the person that's here today. And I know Fred has a pretty good 7:00 story in history about how we came to know our guest today as well. Yeah, that's that's right, Kenny. So we're joined today by the great Jim Cantore, of course, the man you don't necessarily want to see in your town because if he's there, that means bad weather is coming. And we were judges together on the jack daniels barbecue competition a couple years ago. And we really just kind of hit it off and just had, you know, we just started talking whiskey and weather and other things. And, you know, I've met a lot of lot of interesting people in my life. And you know, Jim's one of those people that just kind of stuck and I'd say we've remained friends and I get texts, three o'clock in the morning, one in particular whiskies any good. And he gets he gets texts for me about like, you know, should I take cover for this little raindrop coming down, you know, so 8:00 It's fun, Jim. It's really great to see you. Thanks for coming on bourbon pursuit. Absolutely, brother. Yeah, as I think I got a text me about 20 minutes ago saying, Are you ready to go? Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm ready to go man next Wednesday. Sounds good. We talked about five o'clock. I'm ready to go. Yes. Yeah. You know, actually, it's this Wednesday. 8:19 Traffic trying to get home and job I apologize for Fred. We're working on his calendar. We're here with it. 8:27 I haven't had time to go back and check to see if it really was next Wednesday or this Wednesday. 8:33 Or do that it's probably I do I research. There you go. 8:40 Well, I gotta tell you to Atlanta traffic. Geez. That's kind of like real traffic, unlike livable. You know, you guys get murdered there on the traffic. Awful. Yeah, you know, it's kind of interesting with all the movies and things now they do and in Atlanta, it's almost like 9:00 The movies has come to the LA traffic into Atlanta. It's really weird. But, you know, one of the mistakes they made years ago was not putting an outer loop in a city of 67 million people know, so not having that outer loop means you got all sorts of commerce coming down from North Carolina, up from Florida, you know, from westbound and Alabama into Georgia, and everything kind of hits in the middle on this little thing called the perimeter in Atlanta. And I mean, it's just incredible. And when you throw a little snow in the mix, who gets real fun? How do how do folks in Georgia handle the snow? 9:41 Well, 9:43 they all leave work at once, Fred, and I mean, I guess it's human nature at the end of the day, because people are like, all right, wow, it's snowing. It's here a little earlier than they told me it was going to be so I need to get on the road. I need to make sure I get home. But of course is there yet 10:00 On the road, so is everybody else. And and and so all that commerce is still coming through Atlanta, and it just locks up the whole system. We had we had Snowmageddon a few years ago here, and tonight spent like 2024 hours in their vehicles. 10:18 Just gridlock. I mean, I've seen news stories where people are like, uh, banning their cars on Atlanta's freeways as well. I mean, that's happened in the past. Well, they did. And, you know, I don't want to just say this is Atlanta is problem because I've seen it in Raleigh. I've seen it in Charlotte. I've seen it in Nashville. I've seen it in New York City. Okay, I mean, I've seen it in St. Louis, just recently. So, I mean, it's just, we have to have a better plan of when we shut down. I mean, you know how we are as humans, man, we want to push it to the edge. And then Okay, we can execute our plan. It doesn't always work that way. Sometimes you got to be early and take your listings. If the forecast doesn't verify, and I'd rather be on that end of it. 11:00 The end of it with, with mom picking up you know her daughter or son at the daycare or dad whoever's picking them up, and they're crying because now they can't get home. And there's no food in the car. There's nothing to back you up with so so those are the human stories, the human part of that, that that I hate to tell, but it happens. Well, let's let's get into like how you got to where you are. You are one of the most fascinating social media follows. For anybody who's interested in weather. Tell us how you got involved in weather where what was the moment that made you want to be a weatherman it was it was all my dad. 11:38 You know, we sat down at the dining room table. And he came up to me and he said, I was sitting down he was standing and he looked at me as someone you want to do for the rest of your life. I looked at I mean, I love electronics. electrician, a fireman. I mean, those are, that's what I'd like to do. He goes he goes look is you need you 12:00 You need to go study the weather. You're like a frequent snows Aren't you leave the barn light on, you wait for the first flakes. You go shovel the walkways your mom can get to work in the morning. You know, you got to wake up for the next 50 years of your life every day to go to work. You better love what you do. You love the weather, go study the weather. Boom, that was it. And that was that was before the weather channel right before? 12:26 Yeah, so he said that to me, in 82. And that's the interestingly enough, that was the birth year of cable. And a lot of it in Atlanta. Because of the, you know, the relatively mild weather with the exception of Snowmageddon, the fact that you needed, you know, 365 24 12:47 seven workforce, you know, low cost of living, I mean, all those things kind of played into cables roll. Certainly I think Atlanta certainly being the birthplace of cable but 13:01 Yeah, we I remember in 86 when I graduated four years later, and my brother came up to me, I was up on a scaffolding painting a building. I just graduated college and he goes, Hey, Jim, The Weather Channel wants to talk to you. And I'm like, oh, wow, The Weather Channel, because we had just gotten them on, on cable. So when I started, we were in 28 million homes. And at the weather channel's peak, we were about 108 million. So I got a chance to really go through that tremendous growth period with the weather channel company, and it was just, I mean, I wouldn't trade it for anything. Wow. best parts of my life, man. Really? When you were you were when you were first when you first started there. What were you drinking? 13:45 Oh, two beers. 13:48 will cheat beers. Okay. I've been making a lot of money. 13:54 Online. So Fred, I went from Old Milwaukee and college. Okay, you believe Sorry, bro. I gotta be honest with you. 14:00 awakened, 14:01 Niccolo Blake. It's great. 14:04 Alright, so when did you When did you start drinking whiskey? 14:10 Probably a 45. I'm just kind of late bloomer, I guess. 14:15 It's almost like his I started playing golf at about 30 years old and, you know, after golf, it's so nice to just go have a drink. And it actually it kind of it started with scotch. And then you know, somebody said, try this single very My dad was a big scotch drinker. So I would go home and see him and you know, as he aged, it was kind of nice to just sit down and have a drink with my dad and drink what he was drinking. 14:40 So I found this old bottle. My grandmother used to work for a liquor store distributor. I found this old bottle of four roses 14:51 like that, why weren't you drinking this? Because I don't know. It's been sitting there for 20 years. So I I popped it open and, you know, the court would 15:00 Just a disaster. I mean, it was shattered. So there's like, so I just pushed it down in there and I started pouring it out and there's cork in the glass. But I took one sip of that. I'm just like, Oh, 15:13 this is my drink. Wow. So you're a scotch drinker on the bourbon drink. So four roses is the bourbon that turns your scotch palate into a bourbon palate. Yes, sir. That's awesome. Fred, do you think that's a little unique? And it's in its sense, too. Because I mean, I know that both of you and I we've tried older four roses, and some of it might not even compare to today's four roses in regards of like the quality that I didn't put out back then. Well, here's the thing is like I would want to see the bottle because there were by by him describing it as having a cork. That makes me think it might have been what was are we talking 90s was this in the mid 90s Oh gosh. This this 16:00 bottle was probably from the 60s 16:03 but when did you When did you have that taste? 16:08 Yes 90s so so it's been in the 90s so if that bottle was from the 60s you know do you recall any like 16:18 foreign language on it by chance was there it was clear American It was 16:26 a bottle because it was shaped like a 16:29 like a pyramid almost. Okay, so then what you had then you actually so I Kenny, he did not have a blend as your as you were thinking he had. I actually think that you had a single barrel from the one of the first single barrels from four roses as they were making their comeback and it was actually from the 90s 16:50 I do have a bottle in here somewhere. 16:55 Really 16:58 good luck finding that Fred. Just 17:00 You want to take a few minutes or 17:03 timeout timeout? Yeah. 17:08 The way that bottle you're describing Did it have a Green Label? 17:13 Do you recall it didn't have any label didn't have any light on it. So so you know, so I will be willing to say it may not have been four roses, but the fact that my grandmother was a distributor and we had four roses glasses, shot glasses, four roses, everything. I'm wondering if, if that was it, and I certainly you know, recently the comeback of four roses. as we as we all know, it's been huge. 17:38 So that's been kind of a bright spot in my eyes for my girlfriend drinks. Nice. Well, we'll talk about that later. 17:47 Well, you but the bottom line is there was there was a bourbon and the 90s that brought you you know, to where you are now and what after you had that taste? What were you 18:00 seeking out in the store and at the bar you and I've talked before a little bit I love grain. 18:07 I love a little candy corn. You know, I love a little caramel. And 18:14 I just I love the just the front end when as soon as it like hits my lips. It's just it's just delicious. And all of a sudden you know what? I started like smoking cigars. And the cigar became a great thing with the bourbon. This even makes it taste better. And cigar so especially you know, especially not an overpowering cigars, so just a lighter, medium bodied cigar. But that's that's kind of how it all got started. 18:42 They didn't even have the sin over here. It was starting to lead you down. 18:46 Well, yes. And you know, meeting friends early didn't help any 18:51 life. So I remember I remember walking down Lynchburg with you and like every 19:00 fifth person someone would stop. Oh shit. There's Jim cantorial tornado coming, you know, is there a hurricane coming? You know, everybody like they would see you and they would be a little afraid of what was commented? what's what's the strangest thing someone has said to you in public? 19:18 Can you sign my breast? 19:22 That's a new one. Fred is Amanda for that to you yet? Yeah. I'm just like, No, I can't. So yeah, I don't do body parts or dollar bills. I don't do face the dollar. So those are the two things that I will I won't sign but everything else is pretty much fair game. 19:41 Related equipment. An answer for that? You were not expecting I wouldn't know. I was. 19:48 I was I was expecting, you know, something. A little bit more weather related versus finding 19:56 the snowflake for me. Yeah. Okay. I'll get on that. 20:00 Do You Do you ever get like annoyed that people have you associated with 20:09 basically disasters? Because that's all you do. You mean you chase disasters for a living? Yeah. So when I did when we were working with MBC, which was just wonderful, I love that relationship with NBC, especially with NBC Sports. Because I got to do the Olympics. I got to do the Winter Classic, Super Bowls. It was just so it it was like being a part of a team, like a sports team. You know? 20:34 They they ran that show like you You had a role. It was an we treated everything like an event and it was really amazing. We rehearsed ad nauseum. We timed it out. I mean, it was really great TV. I I love working for NBC Sports. Wow. And I would do it again in a minute. But 20:56 you know, to to go and do some of those at the 21:00 high end events and be able to be either part of the show in even the littlest of ways with guys like doc Emmerich. And 21:11 you know, Bob Kostis and Al Michaels, who has coined me Dr. Do. They presented me at the London Olympics one time with the Doctor Doom hat? You know, because Al's kind of got an als kind of a closet meteorologist. When he goes out. He tells me when he goes out golfing with his buddies, they asked him about the weather. What's it going to do with? What do I need to dress for today? Of course, Medallia in Southern California. I 21:38 was like, 21:40 Well, yeah, of course they're asking you that it's an easy answer. But that's it was just great working with them. But But I don't know maybe because I just show up in some of the worst weather they've asked me to go out and 21:56 cover hurricanes floods, about done 98 tropical 22:00 systems as I like to call it, because they be the dependent depression and landfall, a tropical storm or hurricane. And 22:08 now I never say I want to get to 100. But it's inevitable, right? I mean, we know we're obviously always going to have hurricanes and tropical storms, but it just I, I like to put myself in the position of some of the worst whether they're all different to get like a, like a high doing that, like you have an opportunity to use. Yeah, I do. I mean, especially when I was when I was a kid. You know, I started The Weather Channel at 22. So, you know, 22:32 by about age 32 when I when I got out there, and this lady came up to me and writes will beach when I was covering hurricane death, she goes, You know what, Jim? I can see her too. She looked petrified. But she walked up to me through a bunch of people. And I said, Ma'am, can I help you somebody and she goes, I just wanted to tell you, you know, we know it's going to get bad here, but I just wanted you to know that we're glad that you're here to take us 23:00 through it. Wow. It was a really interesting moment in my life, especially as a meteorologist because all of a sudden, it wasn't about the swashbuckling through a storm anymore. It was more of a god, you know, I, I got purpose here. And I got it. I had a way to communicate with these people, get them out of harm's way, and really help. 23:24 And that's what that's I never forgot that moment because that was really the turning point. So Jim, I grew up in Oklahoma, and you know, we had NATO's all the time and we lived I lived through many many tornadoes and 23:39 Gary England, oh, it's someone like yeah, we would we would watch News Channel Nine and he, you know, we felt like he saved our life, you know, or we felt you know, he we knew to get covered. Gary was talking about it. And, you know, 23:54 out here in Louisville, Kentucky. I feel like they start getting all panicky if there's, you know, 24:00 One cumulus cloud and the air is there a you know are there's are there like some meteorologists who just have have the chops some who are just a little bit more panicky. I mean, you're brave and you go into anything, but I feel like some of them, you know, I will be honestly, there's probably things that 24:20 none of us should be in. Frankly. 24:24 It's your job to mission as a meteorologist to relay the message, to get people out of harm's way and to not panic yourself. Because if you if that is your 24:37 that's what they see in you. They're not going to listen to you. Okay, there. There needs to be a sense of calm, there needs to be a sense of control over going through this. It's not going to last forever. Most people will make it through it. Sadly, some will not. That is just the way of the world when it comes to a strong tornado. 24:58 We don't I mean, we hit 25:00 That we, as meteorologists, we love the tornadoes that are way out in the open plains. They are over, you know, pasture land that hasn't been farmed yet. That doesn't bother anybody. They don't take out any buildings. They don't hurt anybody. those are those are the beautiful ones to admire from a distance. But the ones that start coming through town you start seeing it debris, shield and cloud come up and you start seeing pieces of building and metal flying all around you know, your your your heart drops your stomach a little bit because you know, now you're in an area where there's population when you start seeing power flashes. 25:38 You know, you know that somebody's in harm's way hopefully everybody got out of that but you know, there's a chance and we're about to interesting enough. I mean, I don't know when this is going to play the podcast we're doing here but we're about to enter a period of really daily tornadoes. In Tornado Alley, traditional Tornado Alley Fred where you are from 26:00 It's going to get it's going to get really busy starting Friday out there. And it's going to last through at least the end of the month. 26:07 And that's 26:09 you know, it's it's such a somber feeling cuz I know I mean, growing up in an area where people died, you know from from a tornado and then you know, that's happened here in Kentucky and Indiana as well. It's just right. You know, I think a lot of people just look at the TV and see you all as like personalities, but you really, 26:27 you really do feel vested in, in the people's lives out there. It's that's not just talking. You know, 26:34 what's really interesting is, you know, I've worked at the weather channel for 33 plus years, and I've never really considered it a day that I have to go to work. Oh, yeah. Is it hard to get up at 315 in the morning, you bet. But it's hard for me to get up at 9am. So 26:52 so but but the fact that I this is a service, this is always going to be a service at the end of the day. 27:01 And that's what makes it great. 27:03 And never gets old that way. That's how I look. And when you come home when you sell it when you're celebrating for like a job well done, like, you know, finding a storm cloud or finding, you know, a pocket of 27:17 you know that saving someone's life, you know, the weather channel, what do you drink, and when you get home to celebrate, or at a bar, 27:25 the first thing I do is 27:28 if he's if he's getting up at 315, he's probably going to bed around. 27:33 I'm going to be asking you guys, I mean, a lot of times there's not celebration. I mean, it's you're coming back, you're literally dragon coming to the door. Because you're working long hours, you've witnessed hundreds of people that have gone through death and destruction. They've lost everything that they're that they own, that they know. You, 27:52 you're out there. Again, like I told you, it's your mission to tell the stories to let the rest of the country know what's happened here and get these people 28:00 as much help as they can get. So when you come home, there's a little PTSD. All right, you gotta deal with this. You gotta you gotta let it go. And I like to go up to my lake house in Lake Blue Ridge, Georgia. I love it. The water the mountains, I grew up in Appalachia. I love it. Being in the south, it's just a southern extended the same mountain chant I grew up on and you can let everything go there. And after that, you can sit back and you can say, Okay, what did I do? Good. What did I do bad? How could I improved upon what I've done? Who Who else could I have helped What else could I have said before the event that may have helped people? Those are the kind of things that you know, sitting out by the fire with 28:45 a little bit of will it's more McKenna 28:50 or speaking French language now. Yeah. So you know, now I know he's like, I know he likes these. I've seen his I follow them on Instagram and when I see Fred 29:00 Yo picture of these, you know, these bottles I'm like, Oh man, this is perfect. I'm right on board because if Fred likes it, it's got to be good. 29:08 Well, I'll tell you like, you know, I can feel that emotion, you know, coming from you. And I just got to tell you, you know, 29:17 yeah, it on mission in your life, you know what I'm yeah, it's right, you know, 29:23 very different but it's like, you know, 29:26 there's got to be pockets of what you do though, where you do find a moment to celebrate. I mean, because you you and your colleagues have found storms and save people's lives. You know, and there might have been one or two or you know, some so you get moments to celebrate or is it always a feeling of like you want you want to know in the moment to celebrate let me give you an example. So the other day yesterday, actually, in the morning, I go in, and in the Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Oklahoma puts out all sorts of for 30:00 Cass, and one of the things they put out are severe weather outlooks from day four through eight. 30:07 And what they'll do is if something needs to a certain probability, they will color in these different areas where severe weather may strike. So I'm looking at their new day four through eight. And I'm like, Holy smoke. Day 4567, and eight are all colored in. I've never seen that before. They must have done that before. No, actually, I don't think they have. So I get on Twitter and I send them a tweet and ask them if they've ever done that before. And sure, and so I started saying it on the air. You know, Hey, guys, I actually think is the first time that that the Storm Prediction Center has an outlook that day four through eight. And it was it just turned out to be that it was it was the first time that they've done that. So you know, what that does for me, is okay, he he he's passionate about the weather. He's alive. 31:00 into his craft to be able to recognize that after they God knows how many outlets that they put out here over the years I mean that was kind of a cool moment for me okay so if that if that's if that's a way to celebrate then then so be it yesterday I just remembered that 31:18 we could find as many small celebrations that drink as we want I mean it's true and in fact is you know Kenny and I you know this is since this is what we do for a living you know, we we just celebrate celebrating so we were looking for something to tell us what do so 31:36 that's a celebrate to day four through eight from SBC. Those guys do a wonderful job. And you know, that's the other thing to a lot of people don't realize you see me on the air. You don't realize how many people are behind the scenes of the Weather Channel. How many meteorologists that converse with how many people are in my ear like Greg diamond, he can't talk. You know, this is you know, Oklahoma City just got 1.5 inches of rain in the last 20 minutes. 32:00 Boom is a great stat for me, I throw it on the air. You know, great Twitter followers like Ryan, Molly and Eric Blake from the hurricane party. It's endless. It's endless, which is why I like Twitter. It's kind of our weather, weather enterprise home. 32:19 But just wonderful, wonderful people wonderful information, information, wonderful knowledge gathering from all these people and friendly, you probably see that you probably see that from comments on G probably see this, you know, I've seen you with with old timers that have have been through the business. You know, you you sit there and you spend a few moments with him and it may not be on Twitter, but it's actually in real life sitting next to him talking. And you kind of pick up a little something. Yeah. And it just it just helps the whole cause right at the end of the day so 32:50 and Kenny I would say like, you know, 32:53 the the weather industry is is relatively new in terms of like, you know, the American you know, scene 33:00 But I would say Jim would probably be on the Mount Rushmore of other professionals that's, you know, in and you know, our colleagues 33:11 have hair. 33:14 That's gonna be a new one. Yeah, I'm interested to see that how they do that. Just the various they get the sand actually at the sand down the heads, they can't chisel them out, you know, 33:23 the wind in the rain, I'll do that. That'll do it. It just means you're going to get your cranium better to be a better composite. 33:31 But, you know, you know, 33:33 Jim, you've also you've got some other interests. You're a big fan of cars. And you got you got some stuff there behind you. Tell us tell us about the wall behind you there all the cool Well, what's what's interesting about this stuff behind is I'm a big Yankee fan. Okay, and the NHL ray which the dragster is you see behind me there. 33:50 They actually the Yankee sponsored one of their couple of their cars and yeah, you can see those stragglers, let me see my let's go up a little bit. There. 34:00 Yeah. So you got that going on back back in the day in terms of NASCAR. 34:07 I was a big bottle Labonte fan, Bobby kind of reached out to me and I wouldn't watch him when the 2000 season 34:15 with his crew at Joe Gibbs racing, I mean, that was awesome. 34:19 But they're probably using any sport that's more impacted by the weather than racecar driving. I mean, you can't, you can't unless you're you know, driving an IndyCar it's going to be heavily impacted certainly by by the weather. I mean, ever how they tuned the engine. Obviously, with slicks, you're not driving around a wet track, even a couple of drops of rain, makes that slippery track even slippery or so. There's all sorts of things that certainly impact especially NASCAR. Now, I I see the footballs behind and you talk about sports being impacted by weather. And I know this is really old news, but I think a lot of our listeners 35:00 are probably football fans was the deflate gate was that was that a hoax? Was that is that 35:07 could could you realize so here's the deal even though I'm from New England 35:14 I am actually a huge Packers fan because we went up into the story on you know, Green Bay playing Green Bay and this is before they made the new warmed up fields at Soldier Field and Lambo back in the day in the winter up there was like playing on summit. Okay, when you took a hit you it was like taking a hit on pavement. That's what it was like it okay. And there were there weren't these specialty pads and these warmers these these guys were out there saying players today are soft. Their budget was these 35:47 little little worlds getting a little soft, but that's beside the point. 35:52 But the point is, is that I we went up there to Green Bay, and I'll never forget this guy's name is red daddy. 36:00 He was equipment manager. And he right when we walked in he was so friendly and so wonderful. He took us right into the equipment room. He started handing out sweats socks and hats because it was cold the story we're going to do it was cold because you may need a few of these extra layers and just kind of being around Green Bay for the whole four days was incredible. I'm walking through the you know 36:26 to far as getting taped up in the in the tape room or wherever it is the prep room but to go out and do practice and he looks over at me goes hey, you're that you're that you're that weather guy right? Sure you love 36:41 me is this is the I'm what I'm thinking myself Holy smokes this frickin brett farr. And so I'm like, What do I say to that? So I look back at him. And I say You know what? Hey, you're that 36:54 you're that what that the quarterback guy. So he just laughed and it's just what but it was just so damn 37:00 Down to Earth. There was nothing pretentious. It was just this wonderful town that owns this wonderful team with a tremendous winning tradition. How could you not be green Bay's Pat Green Bay Packers fan? Unless you're a Vikings fan? I get it. But the really and the first game we went to, here I am down on the field. And it's freezing rain is my flight gets canceled. Okay, from from, from Minneapolis to to Green Bay. I'm like, Oh, no. So I will draw. I'm like, screw it. I'm driving. So I'm driving through an ice storm. I finally make it there. It's the fourth quarter. 37:36 They they tie up the game. The Packers tie up the game. And then you remember the Antonio Freeman catch off his helmet? Yeah, yeah. Okay, I was on the sidelines. And 37:46 it was just unbelievable that the passion of the fans that just ever the nobody left and it's Dude, it's 35 degrees, freezing rain. It's brutal out there. And so now it's an overtime for this game. And so I never forget 38:00 Never forget 38:02 to cover story. So deflate gate was 38:10 you've probably heard of finishing beer using whiskey barrels, but a Michigan distillery is doing the opposite. They're using beer barrels to finish their whiskey. New Holland spirits claims to be the first distillery to stout a whiskey. The folks at Rock house whiskey club heard that claim and had to visit the banks of Lake Michigan to check it out. It all began when New Holland brewing launched in 97. Their Dragon's milk beer is America's number one selling bourbon barrel aged out in 2005. They apply their expertise from brewing and began distilling a beer barrel finished whiskey began production 2012 in rock house was the club is featuring it in their next box. The barrels come from Tennessee get filled with Dragon's milk beer twice, the mature bourbon is finished in those very same barrels. Rocco's whiskey club is a whiskey the Month Club on a mission to uncover the best flavors and stories from craft distillers across the US along with you 39:00 bottles of hard to find whiskey rack houses boxes are full of cool merchandise that they ship out every two months to members in over 40 states go to rock house whiskey club com to check it out and try a bottle of beer barrel bourbon and beer barrel rye use code pursuit for $25 off your first box 39:20 so deflate gate was 39:24 so as you yeah you keep deflecting that one up 39:27 you know Robert Kraft and Florida or anything so I'm glad you kept it too flaky. uh you know hey, it, it is what it is but how do you know how to use the weather to realize that you know what happens within the cold winter's night you go you start your car you start driving and if you have one of these newer cars to tells you your tire pressure went down 39:49 less because the cold air so So Tom Brady was right or they were they were right there study was right. Does that the right 39:58 let's let's stay a little bit on the 40:00 Some some weird kind of questions like, I have friends who tell me that their knees hurt and that thunderstorm coming. Is that real? Yeah, the pressure changes can affect people kind of cranks up the Arthritis a little bit. 40:14 Sometimes the humidity sometimes the moisture in the air, the cold, damp. 40:19 Yeah, I totally believe it. You know, I don't think there's anything it's one of these things for the candidates. It's not super scientific. I don't think there's a cut rule on it. It is because of the because everybody's body is different. They're affected differently. I mean, one guy's low pressure may not be another guys or gals. All right. It's different. But it's it's definitely there. I've heard it enough to say we've got the evidence. We got the circumstantial evidence. That's very interesting. In American whiskey we are. 40:50 We are read as the same problem he drinks something you can feel it in is nice and nice. 40:55 Especially when I fall down the stairs 40:59 when we 41:00 When we look at like American whiskey we are very much you know, the majority of the distillers are a lot of them are using like kind of climate control but there are some who who are not. 41:12 And it comes up a lot about you know, is climate change going to have an impact on American whiskey and really you know, I think the verdict SAP but the one thing that we're facing a lot of right now in Kentucky is the rain and and like constant flooding, you know, right. So here's what I'm going to say to that. 41:33 We grow a lot of corn. In this country, the Corn Belt is very well known, you know, from the Midwest up through the, you know, across the Great Lakes and into the High Plains. 41:46 They've gotten soak this year, they're going to get soaked over the next couple of days. So that's certainly delays corn. 41:54 But if you let's just say that we warm the planet by two degrees, and the 42:00 Now we open up all these growth areas and Canada 42:05 so not you so now you extend your growth area up and Canada 42:10 you know they did, I think will always be able to grow corn is my total will grow it somewhere will get it from somewhere. Does does like increased water impact a kind of a microclimate of an area because what we're seeing is we're seeing the waters rise around like distilleries like the rivers are getting higher, the lakes are getting higher. Yeah, how will that impact like warehouses and stuff like on a kind of a like a man, that's my biggest concern is, you know, when you look at a warmer atmosphere, you can hold more water molecules, right. And it's the same physics that are squeezing them out. But if you get more squeeze out, you're going to squeeze out more and so it's raining harder. And it really riffing the find these just prolific rainfall events, double digit rainfall 43:00 totals, you know, and ask the folks at Houston they got Houston we got a problem okay because they get these things all the time now. 43:09 So imagine being a city versus you know, farmland where you can take certainly a little bit more water but that is the problem it's raining harder. That is not good because it's raining at rates that the soil can absorb the moisture and so we're also it runs off rich fertile soil and so you changing the landscape you're changing the fertility of the soil, and that's a big deal 43:31 at that, that's something also we have to keep an eye on for sure. There's also maybe a concern like right now the the wide oak forest of the eastern part of the United States seems to be fine, but if this rain keeps up, you know, it's it's surely going to get down to the roots of a lot of those white oak trees. You know, 43:50 it's interesting the the the white folks seem to be doing okay at the moment. 43:57 What I've noticed though, are the red Oh, 44:00 are very susceptible to drought and heat and cold. They're very finicky. There's a lot of rock in the middle. There's a lot of broken limbs, they just don't look healthy. Especially with more water. For example, blares, Ville, Georgia got 44:22 100 inches of rain last year, which is unprecedented. I'm going to be interested to see as we go through the next few years, what impact that has on the Oaks, I actually have, you know, a property where I took down a bunch of red oaks because they were a threat to to homestead. And I couldn't believe what I saw in there, me and my buddy when we cut this tree down, we're like, holy smiley, the whole middle of this rotted, it was gonna fall Anyway, I'm like, thank God, we took that down. So now I'm looking for other red oaks that may need to come down because of the same problem. So there's something going on. 45:00 With the oak and yes, Fred, do 45:04 you know animals and plants know, or had a hint of what's happening before we do as humans? I think that's possible. I really do. So when you look at the last season, the red oak tree now, when you look at Red Oak versus white oak, here's a little kind of a fun like bourbon historical fact, the distillers actually figured out like red oak, that kind of stuff happened to red oak, and it wouldn't retain water when I turned them into barrels. And so that's one of the big reasons why the majority of the barrels are made from carcass album, you know, species of white oak, but yeah, yeah, but 45:39 red oak. Is though, is the red oak has always been the weaker species. Yeah. Yeah, 45:45 Jim, I've got a kind of question for you to when we're talking about, you know, the weather paint, the weather changes and everything shifting. And Fred might be able to kind of talk about this too, because, you know, living here in Kentucky, we hear all the time that Oh yeah, this is the best climate for 46:00 been the cold winters, the warm summers, however, the past two or three winters here and been pretty mild. You know, we've had maybe one school closure two inches of snow. And that's it. I mean, we're not talking, you know, weeks upon weeks of like severe cold weather. Are you seeing any kind of like climate changes or shifting that's happening, at least in our part of the country where we could expect this sort of happening for years to come that could even affect future stocks? 46:33 I mean, guys, there's no question the last 30 years or so, which is it you know, about viable climate record? We've seen warming, especially in the Arctic regions. 46:46 There's no you know, we've measured that the same instruments of measure that warming, so it's definitely there. What's interesting though, is people need to realize that it's not just warm when we 47:00 When you get an overall warming and other things are going on, it can lead to other extremes. In other words, how many record warm February's and marches that we had, and then all of a sudden to snap into a cold blast in April and record lows. So it's these kind of zigzagging really extreme undulations of the jet stream that we haven't quite figured out. Is that is that something because of now what is used to be so much ice over the Arctic? more dark areas that are absorbing heat and maybe changing the overall jet stream? There's there's a lot of speculation here. There's just a lot of stuff we don't know. All right. 47:42 Is this a short term trend? Can the earth correct itself? are humans playing a part? I certainly think you know, with the amount of you're talking about what 7 billion 47:52 probably yes to all the above. Yeah, quite a few billion people out there, you know, certainly impacting things. I do hate that. All of this gets pulled 48:00 Assize because I think if we looked at it from a purely scientific perspective, we could analyze it a little better. But what happens is everything gets politicized and get one side going for the other. And then one side denies it. The other side fights back. It just I feel like we're, you know, the climate in conversation is that a disservice due to political it's very sad because the, the ends of the spectrum, the deniers and the in the alarmists are the loudest, okay? 48:32 It's the majority in the middle that are willing to listen and do something and be good stewards of their planet that are kind of open to all you know, hey, okay, I listened to you. I listen to you. You know what, yeah, maybe I could recycle better. Maybe I can drive an electric car. You know, people that genuinely want to be good stewards of the planet. I think that really needs to be. 48:55 I agree. And don't you think in this wonderful 49:00 world that we live in with so much ingenuity that we will figure out stuff and look at look at Tesla, you know, looking at 49:09 Elon Musk and Tesla, just a great idea. But sometimes with solutions come problem, what do you do with the batteries? You know, 49:19 when the cars are dead, you know, that's a lot of that's a big chunk of waste right there. You know, right now, when we looked over the oceans, I was reading something the other day we have, especially over the Pacific, the pump, the plastic gyres, now four times the size of France, whether that's true or false, I'm just telling you, I read it, that's a big deal. Okay, we can't have that kind of plastic over the ocean. We need to fix that. That is not being a good steward to your planet, and boat in before we worry about these other things. We need to fix that. We need to we need to get a handle on that. And then we can start dealing with the other stuff because that's what humans do. We figure stuff out 50:00 Now, this is a real that's a really great segue into a moment when you and I actually picked out a barrel together. 50:09 How we figured something out so that I can't use the hundred year old drill. Is that where you're going with this? So let me paint the picture for for the audience. This is because it's we're at the barbecue competition and it's the party and 50:28 we're with stormy Warren and a couple other folks course. You know, stormy has his own Sirius XM, you know, station. And we are great guy. Yeah. Also also a cowboy. You know, go pokes. 50:46 You gotta throw it in there, don't you? Yeah, it's right. Go, folks. So we, you know, I'm with the assistant master distiller Chris Fletcher. And, you know, he's given us a tour, and it 51:00 Say, Chris, let's, let's take some barrels. And he's like, Well, you know, we don't really do that, you know, as Chris, let's take some barrels. It's me It's 51:12 seriously Kenny, you gotta go back here. I mean, you know, Fred, well, he's literally drilling this guy. Yeah. All right. And I in the way that he got it done was Fred literally going back and telling stories on the stories from this distiller he was kind of one upping the distiller almost every story that unless like, Who is this guy? This is 51:39 I mean, he just knows everything about bourbon and the history of jack daniels. I'm like, this is unbelievable. So he couldn't say no to friend. Anyway, go ahead, Fred. I sorry, I I No, no, and I gotta tell you, I don't like I don't like doing that. And then never. It's never like super 52:00 intentional. But, you know, the these these brands, these distilleries, they just they have their like marketing spiel and they're like their templates, right? And I just like, you know, when they say something like, you know, we were the first sour mash or something like that I'm gonna be like, well, actually in 1818, you know, 52:23 and it's not their fault. It's just, it's it's marketing, but I know dude, I'm telling you, you had to be there because I'm just like, Who is this? 52:34 He knows everything. Like, this is unbelievable. Like where you 52:40 agree, like he's been a dick as he knows everything. It wasn't like hesitation. It was kind of like, hold on a second. I mean, just off the top of his head. And he would just come out with these incredibly beautiful stories, like only Fred can tell, you know, and it's just like, whoo. I want to hear what he has to say. So 53:00 distiller could not say no when it came to open anyway go ahead we didn't understand go barrel go we were 53:09 we got the chance to crack open some barrels and then it came down to like well which barrels we want to go to? And I said well let's go you know let's let's let's find the ones that have the best age on them. And as we went into the one of the warehouse I don't recall the warehouse but it was you could tell was it was paring down it was a little skinnier. There weren't as many barrels in there and so it was obviously one that they were pulling for their single barrel program. So this was an allocated single barrel warehouse, whatever warehouse that might have been, and he comes up with this fucking drill. 53:45 Will it will it and all these other distilleries have like a real drill? You know, jack daniels with this like hand crank drill, with like I was the one from who's the original distiller for jack 54:00 Daniels? Well, are they 54:03 with a narrow screen or limit loud Dan call? 54:10 100 years old, let's just put it that way. It was a I mean, seriously, it was all I mean, maybe had like two years old probably what do you think it was old? I can't, it did look like something that they would have had American pickers kind of thing. It would have been on the set of Deadwood. It was that old. And they come in here and it's got like this, this handle where you kind of you hold it, and then you crank it over here. And the drill bit the drill but actually looks like it's like somebody forged it with a hammer. I mean, the drill it looks like ancient. So like eight so as old as it was, they could have at least replace a drill, but I don't think they did. Anyway, so it gets in there. And he's drilling. The damn thing just disappears. 55:00 He, he loses the truth in there, like in the in the barrel barrel. Yes. So I'm cranking this thing think about an old crank. And I'm holding cranking it and all of a sudden it just pops out of the drill. I'm like, Oh, it's stuck in the barrel. It's stuck in the barrel. And of course I'm you know, I'm not the laughingstock. Well, we did. We were all laughing but you were also 55:25 stormy did try to drill and Kyle tried to drill a little bit too. Well, you were the only one who had any kind of muscle. I mean, if you take a look at Jim That boy is rip. You know, he's got the biceps. He's got the deltoid. Okay, so the true story here is that stormy and Kyle were too drunk the drill 55:48 that's really where the story but go ahead pick it up. And I was here just playing catch up at this point. 55:54 me he really had the up to it, but so sorry. So that one, that drill didn't work. 56:00 gap. And lo and behold, jack daniels didn't have just one like 1895 drill. They had two drills from 1895. And increase comes marching up with this, this second drill, but this one even looks older. You could tell it they haven't been using. It's got dust on it, and the bit is even more were down. Yeah. 56:23 You're absolutely right, sir. And he gets in. Yeah, Jim's going along. And that won't get stuck in there. So, yeah, 56:31 but so yeah, so Yo, jack daniels two artifacts. That's what we're really good part though. Where we're drinking it got in we're finally got in. And then we start drinking when there were like, how many barrels of wind up tapping we end up tapping like five better three, right? I remember five. Well, okay. And we and actually, Jim, I don't know if you know this, but the barrel that we like the most. They actually bought look for a charity that I support. The Kentucky brain injury Alliance. I could 57:00 The Brain Injury alliance in Kentucky and in the home ride foundation for for vets. So they end up selling it. 57:09 So since we've just beaten up jack daniels a little bit, no, not really just there to tell everybody what happened once we got a sip 57:19 of either the first or second barrel and and it looks at you, Fred and he said, Fred, what would you get this? Or maybe it was storming you said I can't remember who said it, but yeah, no, I definitely said it was like mid 90s or something. I thought it was 9292 57:38 good memory. But it was it was like an incredible complicated whiskey. I've got a bottle of it in here in the office somewhere. But it is I still you know, jack daniels gets gets a bad rap for, you know, for just kind of being in every day like mixer with Coke. But you know, that's what pays the bills. The fact is, I 58:00 They have some incredible barrels in there. And if if you can get a single if you can drink straight from the jack daniels barrels, and I'd put that whiskey up against anything and Kentucky, there's a lot of great whiskey in those warehouses. You know, what's really interesting? Is it for people who haven't been to jack daniels. 58:19 I think the weather actually helps them. Because it's almost like a little tropical rain forest back there. I mean, it's just so humid. You know, you can't help but think whatever this whiskey is sitting in is not going to pick up whatever is in that barrel. Take a part of it. And that's where the magic happens. Right. Yeah. I guess a question for you about humidity in general. I mean, what's that actually doing? Do you think to barrels? I mean, Ryan was who couldn't be on the show tonight. He's one of our other co host. He was talking to like barometric pressure, like, does this humidity help with something like that? Well, you know, it's sad. You mentioned 59:00 barometric pressure because I got a buddy. His name is Paul mentor. 59:04 He is a rum distiller in Key West Florida. First first legal rum. And he 59:13 basically plays that barometric pressure. 59:17 And that's when he distills is wrong with the pressure drops, so he uses the pressure as a part of his game. I think that's really, really interesting. 59:29 But certainly, you know, I don't know how that works in terms of pressure, but I know humidity. Certainly when you add moisture to wood, it swells. 59:40 It opens up the wood. So maybe it brings out more the flavor of the wood into the bourbon 59:47 or the whiskey. Who knows? Well, maybe maybe when you retire from the weather channel, you could go and take a side gig at some of these distilleries and kind of just do more research. I think that whether barrels I think that is simply brilliant. I love that idea. You know, can 1:00:00 I was actually about to say that you know, I'll take 5% that's fine 1:00:05 I think we need to go at this together guys. 1:00:08 We're a team here come on you know Kenny does bottles on whiskey so you know that's there is that pretty impressive right there? Yeah, yeah he's there they're making a go at it it's called the pursuit series and now he's going to send you a few bottles and that right Kenny? twist mom we can make it happen 1:00:26 So Jim, man, I gotta tell you 1:00:30 the just the bourbon world. It it does need a face and whether you know we need we need someone who can be the bourbon face and the weather world. Are you up for it? willing to take that channel chat channel challenge, you know as I kind of get a little bit older and you know all the young kids start taking over in the in the weather world. 1:00:56 Maybe it's time to maybe it's time to switch guns to bourbon. Let's do it. 1:01:00 first things I have to tell you it's been it's been a real pleasure. You know, just being your friend but also having you on. And you know, 1:01:10 cheers to you my friend and everything that you do for for America. Absolutely. And you know, I know we'll be more than happy to be your agent and you know make sure you we talked to the right distilleries for you will make that happen well guys if after we play this and and and the weather channel looks at it and says you can't Tory promoting liquor on on a podcast. That's we don't think we're going to breach your contract. I mean, need you guys. So well happens. here's the here's the good news is that spirits advertise a lot. And you can just spend that as saying like, Well, actually, I got a line over here. You know, they may want to advertise. Oh, contracts good. I was about to say I was like, this is your opportunity right now to say like, what's your go to because all of a sudden the contracts going to start rolling in? Yeah. Well, we're going to hold off on that. 1:02:03 Put together kind of a magic case. And something will arrive in the mail and we'll we'll see what happens. Right. And I know Fred certainly been trying to get me to try some different things. 1:02:13 And they're good there. When a package comes in the mail for Fred, it's like, whew, we need to go here. You know, 1:02:20 and but you need to do from now on, send me the package and tell me what you're sending me before you put it out on social media. Because once it goes out on social media, then you can't get it anymore. You know, I need to get McKenna right now. Because of you. You know how hard it is to get McKenna right now, America fact he kills all of us. I mean, no, ill will feed people. 1:02:48 Thank you, brother. Thanks, guys. Cheers, brother. So my suddenly Yeah, man. Thank you, Jim. Thank you so much for coming on the show today. You know, Fred, as well for for coming on and making sure that you know, able to bring 1:03:00 Jim, because I think we've got a lot of great information in regards of not only just Jim's past and his history, his family kind of having a connection to the distributing business as well. And really what, you know, I guess how whiskies making an impact in your life now too, as well. So it's fantastic just to know that that kind of personal side with you, and before we kind of close off, you know, Jim, I want you to just give an opportunity to let people know like how they can follow you on social media and how they can find you. Just in that regard, as well, guys, I mean, here's how I run my social media at Jim kantor's all business, all weather on Twitter. 1:03:38 Facebook gets all those those tweets at you and Ken Tory on on Instagram is more like, Who is this guy outside of weather, you know, what does he do? Where does he go? Who's he hang out with? You know, what's what's going on with these kids, you know, with Fragile X syndrome. The Parkinson's that my ex wife is dealing with 1:04:00 So you know, those kind of things that this the other storms in my life, you'll find out and I'll tell everyone right now, Jim is an amazing man, and amazing man. And you can see a little bit of that on Instagram. And I hope you all go check it out. Thanks, Brett. I appreciate that. I'm just a man and I appreciate being that guy. So if other people can find it, find a little laugh through through my Instagram or Twitter, Facebook, whatever, enjoy it, enjoy it. Absolutely. And we'll make sure to put that in our show notes for anybody able to go and quickly link to it and be able to follow you as well. Then make sure you also follow bourbon pursuit Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and if you like the show, help support the show patreon. com and if you like what you hear, make sure you submit any sort of suggestions we love hate mail. We love fan mail, whatever it is team at bourbon pursuit.com. So with that, Jim Fred, thanks again for joining today. And we will see everybody next week. Cheers next time.

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They Did What?

Gotham Undercover

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2019 55:21

They Did What? saw our heroes and villains work together to defeat Bane and Nyssa al Ghoul. The people of Gotham banded together for their own reasons to preserve their city from destruction. Each has to step up to bring success. What Nyssa Has Planned: [caption id="attachment_36534" align="aligncenter" width="795"] ©2019 Fox Media LLC Cr: FOX[/caption] Nyssa wants to see her father's vision come to pass. Nothing will stand in her way. She has Babs and the baby at City Hall. General Wade reports that the full army force has landed. On her command they are ordered to destroy the green zone and the people of Gotham. The commander balks at that but is quickly killed by Bane. Nyssa gives Barbara the same speech she gave Bruce about watching Gotham burn and then allowing her to die. What really got to Babs was her child being raised and an al Ghul. Bane and the army arrive at the wall where a united front of the GCPD, Bruce, Riddler and Penguin. They fight is going OK until Bane pulls out a bazooka and blasts a hole in the wall. Our force falls back to the GCPD and Bruce has a plan. Lucius radios that the General's signal is coming from City Hall. Selina confirms that Nyssa has Barbara there too. So Jim orders the GCPD and the refugees to the tunnels. Jim takes out some of the guards, but Nyssa has him surrounded and she has the baby. Jim and Barbara lay down their weapons. Nyssa challenges Jim to unarmed combat. All that League training puts Jim at a great disadvantage. He manages to cuff Nyssa and get the knife to Babs. Together they take out the guards and stabby Babs stabs Nyssa with the same knife that killed her father. Nyssa orders General Wade to kill himself so the commands cannot be revoked and she escapes. She found out about Riddler & Penguin's sub and uses it to get off the island. Back at the GCPD, Lee check out the baby and she is fine. Jim orders Lee, Babs and the rest to use the tunnels to get to the subway system and escape. He and the other officers will hold Bane and the army off. What Will It Take To Stop Bane?: [caption id="attachment_36532" align="aligncenter" width="795"] ©2019 Fox Media LLC Cr: FOX[/caption] Bane is ready to bring Gotham down. After the wall is breached, Bruce knows what to do. He is going to take the Jeremiah's power generator and use it like a bomb to bring down buildings to slow the army's progress. He and Selina volunteer since Lucius and Lee are needed at the GCPD. At the Wayne Enterprises building, Bruce reflects back on his good times there with Alfred waiting on his parents. They sacrificed so much to save the city and he is willing to do the same. They set the bomb and run. The tower comes down and blocks the army, for a short while. On their way back to the GCPD, they encounter Bane. Five years of training and work still have not prepared them for this. Bane says friends and family are a liability in war. He looks forward to watching Bruce as he kills Selina. Selina stabs Bane and Bruce attacks. He has gotten tech from Lucius. One piece is the Nightwing project. It is stealth tech that hides planes from radar, but it attacks bats. Bruce plants it on Banes back and the bats attack. Later, Jim, Harvey, Riddler, Penguin, Bruce, Selina and the GCPD stand up to Bane and the army. Things are not looking good, but Lee, Babs and all the refugees come out to stand with them. Bane orders them shot but the army does not comply. Jim says they can stand with Bane or join them. The draw on Bane and his men and the battle is won. Jim finally gets to enjoy holding his girl. Babs says her name is Barbara Lee Gordon, so she knows who she can trust in Gotham. The new mayor makes Jim commissioner. Bruce tells him he is leaving Gotham. He wants to be out of the public eye and to keep forces who oppose him away. He can't tell Selina in person so he gives her a note. At the airport, Alfred says he will start rebuilding Wayne Manor and Enterprises tomorrow. In a touching speech he says he never tried to replace Bruce's parents. But Bruce is the only son he will have, and he is proud of him. Bruce boards the plane and flies off. Selina makes it to the airport in enough time to see him fly off. What the Future Holds: [caption id="attachment_36535" align="aligncenter" width="795"] ©2019 Fox Media LLC Cr: FOX[/caption] Penguin and Riddler are ready to leave Gotham. But Penguin just cannot do it. He cannot leave the town that made him. Riddler pleads with him, but he won't give in. At the GCPD, Penguin says that Gotham is a part of him and he cannot stand by and see it leveled and remade. The Riddler comes in to lend his support. This is just in time because Bane is on the way. We see the bookend of the beginning of the season with the forces banding together to defend the city. During the battle, Penguin shields Riddler from a grenade. His eye is damaged, but he is OK. They battle with the GCPD and help save the city. After it is all over they are bitter. They get no thanks or respect for the roles they played in saving the city. Ed says that he only saved to city so he could rule it. Oswald jumps in and agrees. They will stand together as brothers to rule the city. They embrace in a hug. Both have knives to the other's back, but neither stab. A new work begins for them. Closing Thoughts: They Did What? took us back to the first shot we saw in the season premier. The No Man's Land situation was brought on by Jeremiah and Ra's al Ghul seeking to control Bruce. The resolution could not be stoped by just Bruce or even Jim. It took the entire city banding together and standing up to break through. I loved the episode because each of the people we have grown to love stood up and helped fight for the city. Each had their own reasons, but they worked together to save the flawed and gritty city they love. This could have easily have been the series finale. It closed story lines and celebrated the characters we know and love. But it will be fun to jump 10 year in the future and see what Gotham is like at the start of Batman's career. News: The Beginning... The series flash-forwards 10 years into the future, as Bruce is set to return to Gotham for the opening of the new Wayne Tower. A series of crimes leads Gordon to believe Penguin and The Riddler are up to their old tricks. However, when Bullock is framed for a murder, Gordon begins to piece together an even more sinister plot targeting the city, and a new figure emerges from the shadows to be the hero Gotham desperately needs in the all-new “The Beginning…” series finale episode of GOTHAM airing Thursday, April 25 (8:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTH-510) (TV-14 L, V) Camren’s Says Goodbye to Selina: In a Twitter post she explained her reasons and thanked everyone involved. Lili Simmons will take over the roll for the final episode.Please take the time to read her heartfelt thoughts and wishes. We at Gotham Undercover, thank her so much for her great portrayal and hard work! https://twitter.com/camrenbicondova/status/1119316098166423552 Entertainment Weekly's Article: EW has an article on the series finale. The article also has two photos of Lili Simmons as the adult Selina. Check it out here: https://ew.com/tv/2019/04/19/gotham-series-finale-first-look-lili-simmons-adult-selina-kyle/ Sound Off: What did you think of “The Did What?" What was your favorite moment from this episode? Be sure to join our facebook group and get updates on upcoming shows! Head over to our feedback page where you can upload an audio file, submit written feedback, or record a voice message on Speak Pipe. 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Nothing's On episode 327 Donny ran away

TaylorNetwork

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2019 97:44

This week the guys record on 4/20!!! Donny had a gig, Jim was celebrating the 'holiday' and Darrell 's been drinking. So Jim and Darrell went to the movies, get into some news and do a what we watched Hellboy, Anna, Hobbs and Shaw, John Singelton, Gaming corner, Mandalorian, DC Universe, The Boys, Picard series, Titans casting, When they see us, The Gifted, Alex Trebek, Halo casting, Dr Do Little, Bad Boys 3, Eternals, Coming to America 2, Movie Pass, Archer, Black Summer, What we do in the Shadow, Star Trek Discovery, Our Planet, Brooklyn 99 follow Donny on Instagram @Donnysalvocomedy You can follow us on twitter : @NothingsOn123 http://www.stitcher.com/ https://taylornetworkofpodcasts.com xtremecomedyct.weebly.com oldmagicgaming.com This podcast is part of the TaylorNetwork which is a home to many great podcasts all available on taylornetwork feed on Spotify, Itunes, stitcher radio and also google play

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Nothing's On episode 327 Donny ran away

Nothings On

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2019 97:44

My Funnel Hacking Live Keynote Presentation - Part 3 of 4

The Marketing Secrets Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2019 31:03

Listen to part 3 of 4 of my keynote presentation from FHL. During this part of the presentation, I start diving deeper into how to tell stories and how those stories relate to the perfect webinar. On today’s episode you will hear part 3 of 4 of Russell’s first presentation at Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the super awesome things you will hear in this part: Find out why the story you tell is so important in order to break down false belief patterns. Hear why the more complex the product, the more stories you have to have to sell it. And find out what kinds of stories break specific kinds of false beliefs, and how they are different. So listen here to hear the third part of Russell’s keynote presentation at this year’s Funnel Hacking Live. ---Transcript--- Hey everyone, this is Russell Brunson. Welcome back to the 3rd part of my keynote presentation at Funnel Hacking Live. This part of the episode is one that’s probably my favorite. I start diving deeper into story and why stories are so essential and how they work and a whole bunch of other things. And I’m going to walk you guys through the epiphany bridge, breaking false belief patterns, and then what stories to actually tell. Because if you’re selling a simple product, you just need to tell them the origin story, but if you’re selling a more complex, there are four stories you have to tell in a presentation to knock down somebody’s false beliefs in a big domino. And it should be a lot of fun. And during this presentation you’ll actually have a chance to hear me, unfortunately you can’t see me, but just imagine a nerdy kid with a shaved head and glasses and a tie on, with his shirt all poofy. You’re going to hear me do my very first story, my first offer, and it’s pretty bad. But we’ll have a lot of fun together. The crowd laughed at it, in fact, well you’ll see. Basically one of my trial closes became the trial close joke of the entire week. Almost every presenter afterwards used it in their presentation. I’ll give you a hint, it goes something like this: “Who wants a piece of that. So I hope you guys enjoy this section on story, we’ll queue up the theme song, we come back we’ll dive into that part of the presentation. Now we’re going to move backwards to the story. So the question then is why are stories so essential to this? Stories also increase the value. Now, a couple of things I want you to understand. Number one, for someone to change their destiny, they have to make a decision. This is true first off, for all of you, and second off, for all the people you’re serving. For someone to change their destiny they have to make a decision. Number two, for them to make a decision you have to change their state. And then the best way to change their state is through story. So if we take that backwards, I gotta figure out how to tell stories so I can change people’s states. If I can change their state, then I can help them make a decision that’s going to empower them, and if I can help them make a decision that’s going to empower them, then I can change their life, I can change their destiny. That’s why stories are so important. An offer without a state change is completely useless. If I was like, “Hey, who wants to go to the movie Captain Marvel this week?” ugh, like 3 of you. But then I tell the story and you’re like, “Oh my gosh, I will mortgage my house to fly there for that experience.” The story is what makes it valuable. So the big secret is story telling. We’ve talked a lot about this in our community. This is not unique. I want to kind of go through this because the story is being weaved into every single thing we’re doing. You have to become better and better and better at story. For all of you guys who read Expert Secrets, you know the next part of this, but I want to share it for those who may not or are new. This is a concept we call the epiphany bridge story. So the epiphany bridge is the thing you’re thinking about as you’re trying to figure out how to tell your stories. So the epiphany bridge, this is you back before you were whoever you are now. This is back when you were in your normal life before you figured out whatever it is you’re so passionate about today. So for me, before I learned about this whole funnel thing, I was just at my house, hanging out, doing nothing, that was me. Then something happened where all the sudden you have this aha moment where you’re like, “Oh my gosh, this is the thing. This is the thing I was meant to do. This is what I’m supposed to be doing.” And then what happens is you get so excited by that thing, you have that moment. So for me, it’s happened tons of times in my life. I think about when I was wrestling. You can ask my parents who are here in the front row. I used to come home from school every day and I would eat Rice Krispies and Cheerios and watch TV, right. And then in 8th grade my dad made me sign up for wrestling and I was like ,”I don’t want to be a wrestler, that’s too much work. I just want to watch TV.” And he made me go and made me go and I had a good time at wrestling, I was doing okay. And the next year I remember my very first, it was 9th grade I had a chance to, I made it to the JV team and I remember I went to weigh ins, and I was so scared, so nervous. And I go to weigh in, and the guy I’m wrestling has a mustache. I still to this day cannot grow a mustache. I don’t know why, anyway, I can’t. I remember looking at this kid and I’m like, “He’s got a mustache, he is going to destroy me.” And I got scared and went to the match, I remember getting in the stadium and it’s the JV match, so the only two people in the audience were my mom and my dad. I’m like, ah, and I get out there and I shake his hand. I’m like, “how does he grow facial hair in 8th grade.” So we start wrestling and somehow, I don’t know what happens, but at the end of the match I win. And I stand up and my hand gets raised, and I look over at the guy with the mustache and his head’s down. I look over at my mom and my dad and my dad’s freaking out and I was like, “This day is the day I became a wrestler.” That was my aha moment right. And then the only thing I thought about for the next decade and a half of my life was wrestling. The same thing happened in business. I remember I was trying things and trying things and all the sudden I remember when it hit me and I was like, “This is my thing. This is what I’m going to do for the next decade of my life.” And my guess is most of you guys have had that moment and that’s why you’re here, trying to figure out the rest of the story right. So that happens and then we go on this amazing journey, where we’re like, “This is amazing.” And we start studying everything, we start learning, start geeking out. And then the worst thing in the world happens to us, we start understanding why this thing’s amazing. And then we have a chance to try and sell somebody on this thing we love, that we care so much about and we’re so excited. And the first thing we do is we take all this techno babble, all this technical stuff we’ve learned and we spew it out upon them. They’re like, “Ah.” They get buried in this thing and they freak out and they run away. We logically try to sell them because we’re so logically invested in this thing right now. But the reality is people don’t buy logically. You didn’t buy logically. My dad didn’t convince me, “you’re going to love wrestling because it’s going to be good health for you, you’re going to get stronger muscles, it’s going to help you become more resilient in life.” All these things, that was the logic. What sold me on wrestling? “Oh my gosh, that felt amazing. I’m in.” Something happened to each of you emotionally that got you in. So for us to be able to convince other people, we have to get rid of all the techno babble and you have to remember what was the thing, what was the story, what was the reason that got me started on this journey? And as you tell that story, you give people the same epiphany that you had, that’s when you’re able to change their destiny. That’s when you’re able to help them. So that’s the epiphany bridge stuff. If you want to go deeper into that, I talk a lot about it in Expert Secrets. But that’s the core of story. So for you it’s not coming back and trying to logically convince anybody of anything. It’s remembering what was the reason why I got so excited about this, and sharing that story is what is getting people to connect with you and then they’re going to have the same epiphany that you had, if you do it right. And now you can change them, now you can affect them, now you can move them. Alright so there’s the story framework. Now the next part of story is you have to understand that when we are telling people a story, everyone already has a story about whatever it is. So if their story is positive it’s a really good thing for them, but if the story is negative it’s holding them back. So our job as marketers, as funnel hackers is to look at that and say, “Okay, this story they have is it holding them back from what I know they need to be doing?” if so, that story is the chain of false belief, it’s holding them back. They have this chain of false belief. Now there’s some experience, something happened to them that made them have these false beliefs. So there’s an experience and because of that experience they’ve been telling themselves the story over and over and over again. So for you, this is the people you’re coming in contact with. They’re seeing your facebook ads, they’re coming on your webinars, they’re landing in your landing pages, they’re reading your emails and they have these things and if you don’t break these false chains of beliefs, no matter how hard you try, you will never convince them to follow you, it’s impossible, because they have this story. So the only way for you to break them from these false chains of belief is to tell them your story, and if you do this right, then your story trumps their story, and your story becomes theirs. So I’m going to give you an example. This is my friend Devon. You guys met him earlier today. By the way, did you love his socks? That was amazing. So Devon last year comes up to me like, “Russell, this is amazing. I got an opportunity for you. It’s going to be ground floor opportunity, it’s going to be amazing, it’s going to change the world, it’s going to be awesome.” And I’m like, “Sweet man, I’m in.” So Devon signs me up and he’s like, “Alright, the first thing you need to do, see Jim and Pam over there, you gotta get them signed up.” I’m like, “Okay, let’s do this.” So now I’m looking in through this lens. So I’m going to sign Jim and Pam up. I look at Jim and I’m like, okay. Jim has got some false chains of belief, there’s some reason I’m not going to be able to get him to believe that he should join my network marketing opportunity. What is that? He’s got these false chains of beliefs. So I gotta think, what did he experience that probably kept him from doing that? Did he have a friend or a family member who came and annoyed him, or did someone, did he already join a program and he just felt uncomfortable? What was the experience he had? So Jim’s experience, what happened is he had a friend named Michael Scott who just tackled him and forced him to be in this program. And he’s like, “Ugh, that was a horrible experience. I did not feel comfortable, I did not like it.” So because of that he created a story inside of his mind, and the story he created inside of his mind is that all network marketing programs are pyramid schemes. So that’s the story he created. So I could come in here and I could tell him anything I want about ground floor opportunity, the best product, the best technology, the best everything, no matter what I do, logically sell him, he will never break that story. It’s not worth doing. Now I’m sharing this story for network marketing but it’s true for every single one of you guys. I don’t care if you’re selling fitness, finance, product services, whatever it is this is what’s happening. Your customers have a story already. So the only way for you to break their story is you have to come in and tell a better story that trumps theirs. So if I was going to Jim I’d be like, “Hey man, so why don’t you join?” He’s like, ‘I had this annoying friend who bugged me and it was horrible. If I join I gotta bug people and I just want to do it.” And I’m like, ‘No, that makes sense Jim. I was the same way. But what’s interesting is I found out about this really cool thing called a funnel and I used the funnel, there was a network marketing program I believe, it was pretty cool. AND they’re giving away a Ferrari and I was like, ‘what if I won a Ferrari without ever talking to anybody ever.’ That’d be amazing. So I set up a funnel, I launched it and in 60 days I became the number one money earner in the company and I won this Ferrari and the best thing is I didn’t talk to a single person ever. Isn’t that amazing?” Now, if I tell Jim that, if my story trumps his story, he’s going to be like, “Oh my gosh, did you say I could actually have the benefit of this thing without talking to people? Sign me up.” So that’s what you have to understand, that’s all this whole story thing is all about. It’s about trumping someone else’s false beliefs. If I can trump their false belief, their story shifts and now your story becomes theirs and now they’re free. The chains of false belief are gone, now they’re free to go pursue whatever it is you’re trying to help them pursue. Alright so the question is then, what stories do I tell? Now this is going to change, we talked about hook, story, offer, depending on the complexity of the product depends on how many stories you tell and what stories you tell. If it’s a very simple product you tell a story and that’s all you need. For more complex things you have to tell them multiple stories. So I’m going to kind of walk through that. So the first thing you have to understand is that in every sale of argument there is what we call the big domino. Again, if you read Expert Secrets we talk about this. There’s one thing that if I can get them to believe that one thing all the other concerns just disappear instantly. So when you guys came into my world, the whole funnel world, everyone had false beliefs and things, things you believed about everything. But if I could somehow convince you that the only way for you to get to your goals was a funnel, you’d have to just kind of like, “I’m in. I gotta do it.” Everything else just falls away. So for me it’s like, I can convince people that a funnel is the only way for them to actually get the results they want, then it knocks down all the other dominoes. All the other dominoes fall away or they become irrelevant. Every sales argument has the same thing. When you’re selling something it’s not about trying to answer every single concern possible, it’s figuring out what’s the one big domino that if I can address this in my ad, in my video, in my webinar, if I can address it, if I can prove to them that this is true, then all the other dominoes fall down and they have to believe me. So for all you guys who have that, I’m excited Jamie’s going to talk about hers tomorrow. In hers she figured out what was the thing she had to get people to believe? And boom, it all fell down. So you gotta figure that out. Now after you know the big domino for your product or your service, then it comes down to there’s four stories we typically tell. Now I’m going to show you gusy this in the framework of like a webinar. So I’m going to show 15 minutes, I’m going to show kind of how we do it in a 90 minute webinar. But the same thing happens on a 5 minute webinar. It’s the same process, just shorter times. So the first story we tell is what we call the origin story. The origin story is basically your epiphany bridge story. How did you find out about this thing? Why do you care so much about it. So you tell your stories. If I’m doing a webinar, the first 15 minutes of the webinar is me just telling my origin story. My epiphany bridge story about how I fell in love with this thing. So if you watch any of the webinars, these are the slides from the funnel hacks webinar that most of you guys have probably seen. The first 15 minutes I’m going through this, I’m telling my epiphany bridge story about, “Oh my gosh, funnels are the greatest thing in the world. Let me explain to you why they are.” And I tell you my whole story, and that’s the first goal. Now what happens, is after I tell that story, for some people that was it. Domino falls over and they’re like, ‘I’m in. Here’s my money.” In fact, I’m curious, how many of you guys when you first heard me talk about potato guns and funnels when I told the first story you’re like, “I’m 100% in” My hyper active’s are like in. Now Clickfunnels is a more complex sale. On a simpler sale it’s easy. How many of you guys, if I just told you my origin story with viagon here, and I told you, and I’ve never had a cold sore, so this isn’t actually true, but if I told you, “Look, I’ve had cold sores in the past, I’ve used Abreatha, I’ve used things and nothing ever works. They always last for 2 or 3 weeks at a time. It’s horrible, it’s painful, the worst thing in the world. When I found out about this the first time, I tried it, I clicked on the thing, I pulled it out, and I felt it tingling the first day, but it never came out, never became a cold sore. It was just gone, that was it. And ever since then I keep this in my pocket, I take it everywhere I go, and as soon as a cold sore comes out I hit it, and I haven’t had a cold sore actually hit the surface since then.” How many of you guys, that story alone would have been like, “Sweet, I’m in.”? As someone who suffers from cold sores, our sales video for this is literally that. That’s it. This is a $150 machine. It’s a video, two minutes long, telling an origin story of the person who actually invented it, and that’s it. That’s all it takes. So for simple products, one story, the origin story is all you need, and people are in. But as you get more complex offers you need more. So what happens is on a more complex offer, they push the domino over and they’re all excited, but then all the sudden they push it and it’s like, “Oh these things blocked it.” It’s like, “Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I’m in but…” and all the sudden these three things block it. So these are the three things. The first thing, these are what we call the three core false beliefs. The first thing is their beliefs about the vehicle. The vehicle is the thing you’re trying to put them into. So for me, the vehicle is funnels. This is the world I’m trying to take you guys into. For some of you guys it’s a ketogenic diet, some of you guys its products to help you with your cold sores. There’s some belief about the vehicle they have that they struggle with. The second belief is their own internal beliefs. “That may be cool but I don’t think I could do it.” How many of you guys have heard that voice in your head before? “That’s cool for them, but I don’t know if I could do it.” And then the third false belief is like, “Well that’s cool. I think I could do it, but I know that if I start this diet I could do it but my wife’s going to buy cookies anyway and it’s going to be in the house…” They always blame some external source beside themselves. So these are the three things that keep people from buying from you. So for me now, now I move into where I tell a story to try and trump all three of those. If I can trump all three of those beliefs, their beliefs become my beliefs and they have to buy, they have to follow you, they have to do the thing you need them to do. So story number two then, which in a webinar is the next 15 minutes, is the story about my vehicle. So same thing, I come back here and say, “What’s the chain of false belief they currently have about the vehicle that I’m putting them into? Then what’s the experience, why do they believe that? Then what’s the story they’re currently telling themselves? And what’s my story?” Okay so…oh, you guys will see this tomorrow. So I gotta show them that websites are dead. So for me, if I go back to this for myself right, the false belief is like, ‘I already have a website, so I’m good.’ Or ‘I sell stuff on Amazon, I’m good.’ “Why do you believe that?” Well, I tried to build a funnel, it was really complicated and it didn’t work. I did it myself on Amazon and I make some sells. It’s pretty cool.” So the story is like, ‘I don’t need any complicated stuff. I can just use Amazon.’ So I have to come back and the story I have to tell you is, “No, websites are dead.” I tell the story and if I did a good job, boom, it falls down. So in my funnel hacks webinar that most of you guys have seen, these sslides right here are all me telling the story about why this vehicle is the greatest thing in the world. My epiphany bridge story about why I believe that. I tell that story and at the end of it my goal is for them to be like, “Oh my gosh, I do need a funnel.” If I can get them to say that in their head, ‘I do need a funnel.’ Boom, the internal belief, or the vehicle belief is gone. “Oh my gosh, I could have success here.” “Oh my gosh, I could do that thing.” So if my story trumps theirs, once again the domino falls. Now the next thing, the first one is the origin story, the second one is the story about the vehicle, the next one now moves down to internal beliefs. So they say, ‘oh my gosh, you’re right. A funnel is amazing. But I can’t do it.’ It becomes internal. “I can’t do it. I don’t have any technical skills. I don’t know how to build something, I don’t even know what a funnel is for crying out loud.” So that’s the third story. So now I come back and say, “What’s the false belief, why do they believe that?” They believe that for me, again I’m talking about my product but plug in your product for this, but for me it’s like, “Well, I’ve tried technical stuff in the past, I can’t even use Microsoft word, I’m not going to be able to build a funnel.” That’s what they believe. “What’s the experience?” “Well, I tried to do this thing, it didn’t work, it was confusing. I wasted time and energy.” So the story is, “I’m not technical, I can’t build a funnel.” So I gotta come back and be like, “No, it’s actually really easy. Here’s Grant Cardone, this guy is the least technical guy on earth. He built the entire funnel at 40,000 ft in the air. It was super simple, super easy, and they see that and they’re like, “Oh, that actually is really easy. I guess I could do that.” So now boom, two things have happened, here’s my slide where I tell that part of the story. So now what’s happened, hopefully a domino fell. If not, the last leg, so at first they say, “Cool, the vehicle funnels is amazing. And I think I can actually do it but I don’t…” They find the external thing, “I don’t know how to drive traffic. I actually don’t, I probably can’t figure it out.” They have some kind of external belief. So for me the external belief is, “Even if I had a funnel what would I do with it? I don’t know how to do it. I can’t get people to come to the funnel.” “What’s your experience?” “I had a website before, I spent a ton of money on it, bought some google ads, nobody showed up. And I’m broke.” Or “I paid the agency $5000 and got like 3 visitors, I never made any money.” They had some experience, so the story is, ‘this doesn’t work.’ So I gotta tell them my story. So for me, I tell a story about how to drive traffic, and boom. I go through my slides, tell that part of the story, and if it works, boom the domino falls, and then they follow me. And for all of you guys who are here, obviously the domino fell. That’s why we’ve got 4500 amazing people here. Because I was able to break the false beliefs that were holding you guys back. Does that make sense? So after you’ve told the stories, then the last thing is you move over to the offer. I tell the stories, I break all the false beliefs and I move to the offer, I go to the stack and the close, make the special offer and boom, we’ve got them. So the framework is simple. There’s one big domino. I gotta convince of this one thing. For me, I gotta convince them that funnels are the greatest thing in the world. For you, whatever your thing is. You’ve got to convince them that this type of diet, this type of lifestyle, this type of product is the greatest thing in the world. What’s the big domino? If you can get them to believe this, then they have to follow you. Figure that out. Then it’s coming back, “Okay, why do I believe that? What’s my origin story? Why do I actually believe that?” and if you don’t believe it, you’re in the wrong business. You have to believe it to your depth of your soul if you’re going to get people to move with you. So then you tell your story and then you’re like, ‘Okay, what’s the vehicle I’m putting, what’s their false beliefs on that? What’s the false beliefs around themselves being able to implement this? What’s the false beliefs about the external?” You tell those three stories and then you make them the offer. That’s kind of how it works. Alright, now I wanted to do something for some of you guys who are watching this, it’s like, ‘Russell, that’s awesome for you because you click on a facebook live and you just go and you have all this energy and you’re amazing and you’d sell everybody every single time.” How many of you guys have ever felt that way about me before? You’re like, ‘I hate that Russell Brunson.’ I have a special message for all you guys, we’re all going to laugh at me together. So I shared this on Instagram and this is kind of embarrassing. But how many of you guys want to see the very first time I spoke onstage? Look at that good looking dude and his bald head and his puffy shirt and his tie. Alright so this is the very first time I ever spoke onstage, it’s like a 30 second clip, and I’m going through this humiliation to hopefully have some of you guys look at this and be like, “Oh my gosh, that guy can do this, guarantee I can do it.” So here we go. “But what I wanted to talk about tonight is kind of a broad overview hopefully to help you better, to get better information out of the whole internet marketing business. This is a lot bigger group than I had planned on.” Ugh, so embarrassing. Alright, so that was the first time I ever spoke. The next day was the first time somebody let me step on their stage, except it was like carpet, there wasn’t an actual stage. They’re like, ‘You can sell something.’ I’m like, “Sweet.” And so the next day I had a chance to make my very first offer on stage. And I’m not going to show you guys the whole thing because it’s really, the very beginning as I transition to me trying to sell, I was like, ‘how much do you guys think I’m going to sell this for?” and some guy was like, “A thousand bucks.” And I’m like, “Oh crap, I’m actually selling it for a thousand bucks.’ I was like, “Well, uh…” it was so bad. Anyway, you guys are going to see my closing abilities round one, here we go. “okay, I’ve got, am I getting close on time? If you do join the affiliate boot camp it will give you lifelong training. It’s a $47 a month value, you’ll get it for free. Who’d like a piece of that? Here’s my irresistible offer. Hopefully you guys learned a lot from this presentation.” “Give him a standing ovation, he did a great job.” Look at this, nobody stands up, not one person. “Who wants a piece of that?” the greatest close of all time. Ugh. Alright, so I share that frame you guys who are just like, “Agh, I don’t know if this is going to work. I’m shy, I’m awkward, I’m nervous.” I promise you, I was shy, I was awkward, nervous. I still am, I still struggle. But when you believe in what it is you have to sell, you believe in what you’re doing, you just keep doing it and keep doing it, and you get a little bit better and a little bit better. And it didn’t take 15 years, every single time it got better and a couple more people started listening, a couple more people started listening and it started growing and started growing, and started growing. The biggest thing, you have to start. You have to start telling the stories. You can’t wait. “I’m going to start stories next month, next week, next year.” It’s like, no, start today. How many of you guys have a phone again? No one’s raising their hand. How many of you guys have a phone in your pocket right now? Okay. You have no excuse. If you want to do a podcast, there’s a podcast button, you click on it, you talk and then you click a button and it’s on iTunes. It’s that fast. You go do a video, you click a button and then you’re on facebook live in five seconds or instagram. You have no excuses. “But Russell, no one’s following.” Exactly, that’s the best thing about it in the beginning. Who was there for that event where I spoke? None of you guys were there. Other than all of you guys now saw it, but none of you were there. Do you guys understand? Just start, your people will find you. As you find your voice, your people will find you. But you cannot find your voice until you start, until you begin, until you start moving forward. And if I wouldn’t have started that journey 15 years ago, none of you guys would be here today. If I could go back to that awkward, nerdy Russell with the shaved head and a tie who was scared to death of getting onstage, sitting behind scared to death, then I would go back to him and grab him and say, “Look dude, I know this uncomfortable and it’s horrible and it’s miserable and you are scared, and you are going to fail, and you’re gonna fail, and you’re gonna fail, and not one year or two years, it’s going to be like a decade of this. But in a decade from now, you’re going to have a chance to come onstage in front of 4500 people, and you’re going to have an opportunity and a voice to be able to change their lives, if you don’t stop.” I would hope I would’ve listened. The biggest thing is I can’t have you guys stopping. I was telling Brandon Poulin this yesterday, I saw him at the inner circle dinner. Four Funnel Hacking Live’s ago, the second Funnel Hacking Live he was sitting there on the side, I’d never met him before and during one of the round tables I was at the round table and he came over and he’s like, ‘Hey man, really quick, I need to interrupt.” I’m like, ‘What’s going on?” he’s like, “Just so you know you’ve changed my life and you changed my wife’s life.” I was like, ‘Oh, cool. Thank you.” He’s like, ‘No, no, you don’t understand. We’re helping people, we’re making money, everything’s changed for us.” And I was like, “That’s amazing.’ And Brandon was one person in the audience. He and his wife were sitting there. Fast forward four years now later. Kaelin is unfortunately not here, she had her first baby, which congratulations to the Poulin family, it’s amazing. Fast forward four years later, because Kaelin kept talking and sharing her message over and over and over again, 1.5 million people have come into their funnel. Over 130 thousand women’s lives have been changed because of them. They’re making insane amounts of money, but the impact they’re having on the world is huge because they were sitting in an audience, they heard us talk about this and then they just did it. So for me and for my team, I had this talk with them yesterday before we got started, I said, ‘look, there’s a sea of people out here. Every single one of them has a voice and the ability to change somebody’s lives. And if we can’t affect them, then everything we’re doing here is a waste.” This event’s not about me, it’s not about us, not about my team, it’s about each and every one of you guys. We’re trying to give you the tools you need, but you have to listen and you have to be willing to try it. It’s going to be scary at first, I promise you that. It’s still scary to me. I was back stage freaking out a few minutes ago. I feel a little more comfortable now, luckily. But you have to understand it’s going to be scary, but if you don’t do it, if you don’t take that step, you’re not going to be here next year. And I don’t want you just here next year, I want you up here next year. I want you telling your story, getting your awards, that’s why we do this every single day. Alright, a couple more things. Just so you guys understand again, if you’re selling a product you don’t have to do this huge thing. The simpler the product the easier it is. For example, do you guys see that picture right there? Do you see that market in my hand? How many of you guys would give me, I don’t know, $5 for this marker right now? A couple of you guys. Okay, I’m going to tell you guys a story about this marker. I’m going to tell you a story and the story will increase the value of this marker. So a couple of, when we were first starting to do events I remember I would show up and they’d always have those little narrow whiteboards, they’re like vertical. And when you draw funnels, funnels aren’t vertical right. So you’re like, “page number one, page number…ugh, I’m out of space.” And you flip it, and it’s like horrible to diagram a funnel. I would be doing that, flipping the thing over, flipping it over and I had these little tiny markers, and they’re little tiny and you couldn’t see very far, and it just felt weak. Then I went to a Tony Robbins event and Tony had a board like this, and then he pulls out this marker, and Tony’s hands are like this big anyway, and he pulls out this marker and he unsheathes it and walks over to the whiteboard and starts doing this thing, and he’s like, just doing x’s and circles and was making no sense whatsoever, but it looked so cool. And I remember I was like, “Oh my gosh this is amazing.” So when we started doing Funnel Hacking Live’s, first off I wanted a big, Tony had a board this wide, we need a board like that. And I tried for years to try and find one and I remember one day I was complaining to Melanie, who is my assistant, I was like, “Melanie, they don’t, how did he, he must have custom built this thing.” And then she’s like in google or doing some magic and like 5 minutes later she’s like, “Found it.” I’m like, “What?” and next thing we know, we had this board here. And then I did the board the very first time, I had these little tiny markers and I was like, “Ugh, I feel so weak. I want to feel like Tony. I need a man marker.” So she starts googling, she finds the marker, they ship them. I’m like, “No , these are good. But I need Tony/man markers.” So finally she finds these things. And look at this thing. This thing is amazing. So these are now my man markers and I only, I will not speak at events, when I travel to events I bring my man markers because I don’t want to be onstage like with the little dainty ones. So I have these huge man markers. So I’ve got red man markers, blue man markers, black man markers, and I only have 3 of them here right now, how many of you guys want a man marker? I can’t sell these. We have to have them for the rest of the event. But you can see how a story increased the value? That’s what I’m talking about. You tell a good story, it increases the value of whatever it is you’re selling. So you have to become better at telling stories. You have be better at making offers, better at telling stories because both those things intrinsically increase the value of what it is you’re trying to sell. Now when you’re selling more complex offers, that’s when you need to have a bigger thing. When you’re having internal beliefs, the vehicle, internal and external ones, the more complex the product is, the longer the sales process is. So for you guys, your homework as well, in your paper here, is start writing down, you need to start building a story inventory. What are all the false beliefs that my customers have? And start writing those things down. And why do they believe that? What’s the story they’re telling themselves and then what story do I have that would trump their belief? I’ve been telling this ever since Expert Secrets came out almost two years ago, I’ve been talking about this over and over and over again. Very few people do it. But guess what, I know the people who are doing it. I’m watching them. I’m watching their story telling, I’m watching what they’re doing, I’m watching the process. I do this all the time. When I got started Dan Kennedy told me this, “You need to build an inventory of stories.” And I heard that, and instead of doing what most people did, I said, “That’s a good idea.’ I said, “Dan said it, I must do it.” I got a pad of paper and I said, “What stories do I have?” And I had nothing. I had a potato gun story that was it. I started with my potato gun story. I’m like, ‘Uh, that’s all I got.” But now I had my notebook with my potato gun story and I started thinking, as I start talking and doing my thing, something amazing would happen in my life, I’m like, “ That could be a story.” Write it down. Go to the next thing, something else happened and I’m like, “Oh my gosh, that could be a story.” Write it down. “That could be a story.” Write it down. “That could be a story.” And next thing I know I can stand onstage for 90 minutes and tell 400 stories, without even knowing about it. It comes down to just telling story after story after story. But you have to start that now. So if you have your phone, open up a note section and say, “My story inventory” and as you are living life, every time something is happening and you’re like, ‘Oh, that was cool.” Be like, “Oh that was cool, how would that relate to my customers? Oh my gosh, if I told this, that’s how it relates.” Boom. How many of you guys thought I could tell a story about a marker and make it relevant to you somehow? Yet, I did right. It’s all about that.

Funnel Hacking Live 2019 Recap - Day 3

The Marketing Secrets Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2019 15:57

Sales And Belief – Behind the scenes of the two comma club awards, the two comma club presentation, and all the other cool things that happened on day #3. On today’s episode Russell recaps day three of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. Here are some of the amazing things you will hear in this episode: Find out what all the speakers spoke about. See what TV show everyone at the event was able to watch and how Clickfunnels is involved. And find out why the event is choreographed the way it is, and why they try to keep the order of speakers a little secret. So listen here to find out what happened on day 3 of Funnel Hacking Live 2019. ---Transcript--- What’s up everybody? This is Russell Brunson, welcome back to day number three of Funnel Hacking Live, the recap, the breakdown. I hope you enjoyed day number one and two. If you haven’t listened to those yet, go check out those, and then make sure you get your ticket at FunnelHackingLive.com, we’ve sold out every year in a row. And now you’ve got some time to start planning and preparing. So you might as well get your ticket now and then prepare your babysitting, get it on your calendar and all that kind of stuff. Because every single year people are like, “Oh if I would have known when it was happening, then I wouldn’t have missed it.” You know now, you have been warned. So get your ticket to Funnel Hacking Live. With that said, let’s queue up the theme song and I will see you guys in a second. Alright, welcome back. So day number one was deep into the foundation, day number two we talked about funnels and traffic and stuff like that, day number three, which was Friday, this is when we start getting into selling and the Two Comma Club and the future, which is really fun. So the way it started is the very first person up was Mr. Myron Golden and if you don’t know Myron, man, there are few people on this planet that, every time he talks it’s just like gold falls out of his mouth. I love him, I respect him, I’m so grateful for him. And he spoke about how to sell and he totally shifted people’s minds. And it’s interesting because a lot of people, he did this whole, I wish I could show you the whole presentation. Dang it, why weren’t you there? If you were there, thank you for being there. But he talked about how money is measured more in time than in wealth. He said that if you make a million bucks, are you rich? It depends on how fast you make it. He said if you make a million bucks in the next four years, that’s $25,000 a year, are you rich? No. but if you make a million dollars in the next 12 months, are you rich? Yes. It’s the same amount of money, but it’s the time. And it’s funny, he did this whole joke about, he’s like, that’s why when someone says, “Is this a get rich quick scheme?” He said, “It better be or I don’t want part of it, because I could make a million bucks in the next 40 years, or I can make it in the next year.” But it’s understanding that and just so many things breaking people’s mindset about what’s possible with money and wealth. Ugh, so cool. So Myron killed it as always. After that, Jim Edwards came out in a huge blow up unicorn outfit. It was interesting because his presentation was on copy right. In fact, his title was make them thirsty and then sell them a drink. That was the title of his presentation and he came out there and did his thing, but what’s interesting is, it was so cool because it was probably the most emotional presentation of the whole thing. I’m not going to try and tell the stories because I don’t want to ruin them. But he was telling stories about what money has made possible and how he was literally able to save his son’s life. It was amazing and emotional. And then afterwards he had me come back out onstage because, I can’t remember exactly, I’m probably going to mess up the story, and I apologize if Jim’s listening to this, but it was 8,700 something dollars of what he was making per year, back in the day. And then that’s how much he needed to help people. So he actually had me come out on stage and he gave me a check for the exact same amount to give to OUR, and it was just really symbolic of what’s possible when you do these things. Possible how money can change people’s lives, and it was really, really cool. So Jim killed it, people were crying and it was funny and fun and he’s just awesome. I love Jim. After that, then we had Eyana Golden and talk about email story selling. I wanted to do an email session for years, and I never have because we just haven’t, I don’t know, it just hasn’t worked right yet. But Eyana’s been in my inner circle with her boyfriend James for the last couple of years and always paid attention. She had her own business and other things, and recently, over the last year and a half, 2 years, she started writing emails for herself, like doing story selling emails and getting good at them. Then she started doing it for other people, then she did a bunch for me as well. She became really, really good at this. And I wanted people to hear for a couple of reasons. Number one, we need to become better story tellers, we need to become better at sending out emails, telling stories, and I think her presentation nailed that. The second part is, I think it’s interesting, and this is kind of like, she didn’t talk about this specifically, but I hope people kind of got this. There’s so many pieces in this business. There’s the traffic and funnels and design and email, and all these things. And she took just one piece of that, she took the piece of, “I’m going to become really good at email story selling.” And she geeked out on it and mastered it, studied it and became great at that one piece. And then she started doing that for herself and made more money. Then she started doing it for other people, and again I don’t know how much money she’s making right now, but a year ago when I was talking to her about it she’s like, “Yeah, I just passed $30,000 a month writing emails for people.” And I’m like, $30,000 a month as a person who just writes emails. That’s insane. For anybody, as you’re going through, if you were to learn one skill inside of Funnel Hacking Live, you can take that skill and become a master at it, and then charge people to do it for them for their funnels. That’s what Eyana did and has this huge thriving business now, writing emails for other people. Anyway, I wanted to share that for two reasons. Number one is the skill set to learn, number two is understanding, grasping that. Master one of these skills and become the expert at that, and it creates a whole new huge income streaming business for you. After Eyana got done, then Brendon Burchard went up. And it’s funny because Brendon, the last day we had him doing his high performance presentation, which is fun and high energy. And here he’s teaching a more nerdy funnel one, how he does his 7 day launch funnel. And I was like, “Man, my people will love you and respect you more if you do this first because then they understand you’re one of us. You do funnels just like us.” So he laid out the framework for his 7 day launch funnel, which was really cool. Same funnel that he taught this to me almost 2 years ago now. Actually it was 2 years from right now, this month. It was right when I was launching my Expert Secrets book. So we actually did the Expert Secrets book and then did the 7 day launch right afterwards. And we netted a quick million bucks from that. So he showed the whole funnel and walked it through, which was really cool as well. And then after that, then Miss Julie Stoian got up, and she gave a really special presentation, I was really excited for it. We called it Freelancers Secrets to how to start your own agency. How to, if you don’t have a business or a product yet, how do you start this game? How do you get this thing all kicked off? And you do it by starting your own agency. And she came and gave this presentation on how she started when she was a single mom and all these things and bills and all these problems. And what does she do? And she’s like, “Well, I learned these skills and then I started being a freelancer, and then I did for it other people. Then I made someone in the Two Comma Club. Then I started using the skills for my own things. And now I’m doing it for Russell’s company.” And she shared this whole journey. I think for most people they’re like, if you don’t know where to start, you start by being a freelancer. You start by doing that. That’s where you begin at. And she, the presentation was so good, I want to make everyone in our community watch it. It was so, so, so good. She just nailed it. And I felt bad for her, she was so funny. She’s like, after Brendon got done she’s like, “Why do I have to speak after Brendon? That’s not fair.” But she held her own and just killed it, it was amazing. So then after that, oh and she showed the trailer for a new TV show coming out called Freelancer Secrets, which is hilarious. So we showed that. Then everyone went to lunch and when they came back from lunch, we had two of the guys from JK studios, which if you ever watch Studio C, Studio C is like clean comedy. If you go to YouTube and just type in Studio C, it’s like the best comedy for your kids to watch. Every Sunday my kids are like, “I want to watch TV.” And we’re like, “You can only watch Studio C.” Because it’s like, I don’t know, 10 seasons of like clean sketch comedy. It’s amazing. But they recently, all the founders of Studio C ended up leaving and starting their own company called JK Studios and we sponsored their very first show and it’s called Freelancers Secrets and it’s kind of fun. So part of the sponsor thing, we get to weave Clickfunnels into some of the things they’re doing. They have one episode where they actually built a funnel inside of Clickfunnels. So they had the first episode done, so we actually got to show it. We had Matt Meese and Stacey Harkey actually come onstage and set up and tell about it, and we watched the episode. It was so funny, so awesome. So you’ll get to see 8 episodes this year of Freelancers, which is a TV show we’re sponsoring, an online TV show, and they weave Clickfunnels into it, which is so cool, so fun. Anyway, so that, we watched that with everybody. So that got done, then we did the presentations. And we started with the inner circle members, everyone who won inner circle member of the month came up onstage and we awarded inner circle member of the year, which was Dave Lindenbaum, which is awesome. Then after that we did our affiliate dream car winners, brought them onstage. And we did Two Comma Club award winners, and we had 200+ people come onstage and win a Two Comma Club. And then we did Two Comma Club X, which we had a new 25, I can’t remember the exact numbers, 25 people won Two Comma Club X, meaning they made over 10 million dollars in a funnel. And we did this huge award ceremony, which was amazing and fun, and pictures with everybody. I always tell people, this is like the Oscars, the Emmy’s of entrepreneurship, and it’s just fun. And it’s crazy, every single year I’m always thinking, people are not going to come to this session, they’re going to stay out in the hallway or whatever. But it’s crazy, every year the entire year is filled and people sit there quiet for an hour and a half and we give awards. And I think for most people it’s this time to sit back and reflect like, yes, I hit the award or I didn’t. And what do I gotta do for next year to be able to get this. And it’s just like, I don’t know, it’s special. It’s one of my favorite parts about Funnel Hacking Live. So we gave everyone the awards and then when it got done we did a quick break. Then we came back and I did a presentation called Secrets of the Two Comma Club, which is like, the people who have been getting the Two Comma Club, what do they know that you don’t know? If you’re not here yet, there’s something they know. So we have to understand what they know and believe what they believe if we’re going to do it. So instead of me just doing a whole presentation, I brought some amazing people from the inner circle to come up and tell parts of the story, things that they believe that I think everyone has to believe if they’re actually going to do it right. So first I had Chris Warrick, he came up and he talked about forgiveness. A lot of people aren’t successful because they haven’t forgiven themselves, or they haven’t forgiven other people and they hold that resentment back, which keeps them from moving forward. And Chris, you guys heard I did a podcast episode a little while ago, I shared him speaking at Inner Circle about forgiveness it was insanely amazing. So he did a whole presentation on that. And he had everyone do this forgiveness prayer, which was so cool. It was amazing, other than I got three people who complained that we prayed in an event. But you know, that’s what we do. It’s my event so I will, I didn’t know Chris was going to pray, but I’m grateful he did. We had other people, I had one guy message, “I’m an atheist. The first time I ever prayed in my life and it changed everything for me.” And other things, it was just a really special experience. So Chris came and talked about forgiveness, that was the first thing. You have to forgive yourself if you are going to move forward. That was number one. Then James P Friell got up and talked about an identity shift. He talked about when he wanted to become a drummer he sucked at drumming, but he was like, “If I’m going to become a drummer, I have to act like a drummer. So I bought drumsticks and drum clothes, and bought this stuff and I got lessons. I had to become, I had to shift my identity to become a drummer if I was going to become a drummer.” A lot of people want to lose weight, but they like, “Oh I’m going to lose weight, I’m going to lose weight.” But until they shift their identity to, “I’m someone who is fit, I’m someone who’s in shape.” It’s almost impossible to lose weight. So the next lesson was like, you have to actually shift your identity to like, “I’m a marketer. I’m a funnel builder. I’m a funnel hacker.” If you don’t shift your identity, you can come to these events all you want, but until you shift your identity, you’re never going to have the results and success you want. So Chris talked about forgiveness and James talked about shifting your identity. Then number three, I have them out of order here, I think number three was Stacy Martino. I had her come up and talk about your seventh power of community. And she has this cool concept called right hand, left hand, which I may have her do a whole podcast on that in the future. But it’s really just a really cool thing. Like, here’s your family in one hand, who you love, but they’re not into personal development and marketing and these kind of things over here. And it doesn’t make them bad, it makes them great. And then in the left hand are the people who are in your tribe, your community who are like obsessed with you. If you’re like, ‘I’m going on a juice cleanse.” And they’re like, ‘Sweet, I’ll do it too.” And they’re all excited. She said a lot of times, if you take your left hand and right hand and put them together, it crushes the people in the middle. You have to understand that it causes conflict. A lot of times we try to do that, we go home to our friends and family who we love, who are amazing, and we’re trying to be like, “Hey come juice cleanse with me. Read this book. You should go to this training course.” And we just kind of bombard our personal development stuff on people and they feel alienated and it causes separations. We have to understand that the people in your left hand, those are the people who love that stuff, geek out with them. The people in your right hand, you don’t try to shove these things down their throat, you just try to be an example to them. And if you’re an example some will come and follow you and others won’t and that’s okay. But it’s just understanding which hand the people you’re dealing with are. So you can understand, these are my community who I focus on this stuff, these are the people I love over here. It was just such a key, important part because a lot of people get those things mixed up, which causes the problems why they don’t succeed. So Stacy talked about that, then Myron Golden came up and talked about making a covenant. Like how do you actually make a commitment and covenant as opposed to a contract. And you have to covenant with yourself if you’re going to actually have success. He talked about that whole thing of like, you have to make a covenant and a commitment if you’re going to actually be successful. And it was amazing. And Stephen Larsen came up and talked about Just In Time Learning. You don’t have to go and read 50 books to be successful, it’s like, understand the steps, what’s the next step, and then just geek out and learn exactly what you need to learn to do that next step and that’s it, because too many entrepreneurs are trying to read a book a week and trying to listen to 400 podcasts a week. And it’s like, no, no, no. When you’re a CEO and you’re running a business you can read a book a week. But when you’re an entrepreneur in the startup phase, you’re going to be focusing on what’s the next step and just put 100% of your effort, time and energy into that next step and just focus on that, which is amazing. So he did that and then I kind of had them all go down and I did a presentation on the who not the how, which I was really, really proud of. And then the waffle, which I’m not going to get into that on this podcast, it might be confusing. But it was a whole concept of understanding it’s not about learning how to do all these things, it’s understanding who are the people you need to be able to get to your vision and how do you get there the fastest. And it was really fun. We did that whole presentation. And then we sold, once a year we sell the Two Comma Club X coaching program. And what’s cool, everyone that renewed from last year, I gave them huge watches, which really symbolically meant a lot to me and we got them designed to be Clickfunnels watches. So we gave them to all of them. And then we said, “Everyone who’s got a Clickfunnels watch come up on stage.” And over 300 people from the audience came up onstage with me. And I said, “This is your tribe. If you decide to come with us, this is your tribe here.” And I said, “Who’s your mentor?” and I brought up the coaching staff, “These are your coaches and mentors and this is your tribe. These are the people who support you to get you to the Two Comma Club by next year.” So it was super overwhelming. It was way more people than I thought as we brought them onstage, which was really cool. Then they all sat down and I did this presentation and made them an offer for Two Comma Club X, which turned out amazing. So that was awesome. Then we broke for dinner, and after dinner we had another session where people who took the Two Comma Club last year and had success, they came back and shared their stories from stage, which was amazing. And then a lot of people signed up for Two Comma Club X coaching at that point. And that was Friday. So that was the third day, such a good day. So many cool things, from the belief, to selling, to stories, to all the pieces. It was amazing. I love how we choreograph these events. I hope you guys realize how much time, effort and energy goes into that for how all the pieces go together and how one thing breaks the belief in the next thing. It’s the reason why people don’t sit in the hall networking, because they would miss the whole storyline. People are like, “Why don’t you publish who all the speakers are going to be what time?” And I’m like, because I don’t want you guys to, “I’m going to go to this one. I don’t need that one. I don’t need Julie’s freelancer secrets because I have my own business.” No, you need it. There’s so many things that she taught that are so essential for you to understand the next piece of the puzzle. So that’s why we’re kind of more secret about who’s speaking, when they’re speaking, because I want people there for every single session because they all build upon each other. They’re strategically placed in a way to get people the experience they need. So that was the crazy day number three at Funnel Hacking Live. Tomorrow I’m going to talk about Day number four. There was some controversy at day number four, there was some crazy stuff, there’s up and downs, and I’m going to walk you guys through all that. And I will tell you how many people have joined Two Comma Club X coaching program if you’re interested. So with that said, if you haven’t got your tickets to Funnel Hacking Live yet, seriously what are you waiting for? It’s time to commit. Make a covenant to yourself that you’re going to come and you’re going to be part of this community because this tribe, this community they are here to support you. They love you and they care about you, but you’ve gotta make the leap of faith and come. So with that said, go to funnelhackinglive.com and get your tickets. And I will see you guys tomorrow on day number four of four of Funnel Hacking Live. Thanks everybody.

Microsoft's Surprise Announcement - New FCC Study Doesn't Look Good: AS HEARD ON: WTAG

Craig Peterson's Tech Talk

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2019 14:03

Craig is on the Jim Polito Show. This morning they talked about Microsoft dragging the Internet Explorer to the trash. They also talked about robocalls and how you can avoid them. And a little friendly teasing about Craig being Canadian. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Robocalls And Phone Scams Are All The Rage In 2019 Microsoft: Drag Internet Explorer To The Trash. No, Really --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 02/19/2019 Microsoft's Surprise Announcement - New FCC Study Doesn't Look Good Craig Peterson: 0:00 Hey, hello everybody. You might hear my little Roomba going in the studio in the background. I was on with Jim Polito this morning. We talked about a couple of different things. One is what's up with all of these phone calls we're getting? The FCC has some new statistics out talking about what's going to happen here in 2019. And we also had a little bit of fun because, you know, Jim and I were kind of those kind of guys, right. So first of all, he was teasing me more than a little bit about be Canadian now, which is, you know, come on really, really Canadian. And then we also talked about Microsoft and their crazy surprising admission. So all of that and more stick around here we go. And thanks everybody. By the way, who signed up for the master course and who attended the classes last week. I think things went great. So here we go with Jim. Jim Polito 0:57 He really is one of my favorite segments of the week because we all bask in the genius that is our Tech Talk guru Craig Peterson. And here is the aforementioned bright star. Good morning, Craig. Craig 1:13 Hey, good morning, Jim. And we had a lot of people here over the last week, get on those little seminars, webinars, training that I had put on for free we had we had about I think it was about 400 people. So that's fantastic. And we went through backups and what to do and how to do it and how to configure the Wi Fi to make it secure. You know just some basic security stuff that everybody needs so i i was tickled pink that that many people were happy to be there. And of course, a resolve free by the it was phenomenal. And then I offered afterwards if they wanted some more help. But anyways, it's it's great to see the interest Jim and we got the bad guys on the run. Jim 1:59 Yeah, that's great. And folks, at the end of this segment, we're going to tell you how you can get on Craig's list. And again, see how we offer this free webinar. He's not going to try to sell you anything. He's not going to hound you. And he's not going to give your name to other companies so that they can try to sell you something. It is a free service that our Tech Talk guru provides and will tell you how you can get on board. And and while he did this webinar, when there's a big crisis, he's the guy you want giving you the straight story because if he can explain it to me, he can explain it to anybody. So hey, I want to go with something funny to start with. And that I want to get into robo calls. But Microsoft is telling people to drag Internet Explorer into the trash. I mean, I'm surprised that there's still people who haven't done that. But why don't you, why don't you explain? I mean, I mean, I look at Internet Explorer. Now, the way I look at Netscape, does Netscape even exist anymore? Craig 3:09 Yeah, well, it Yeah, no. Internet Explorer, of course, was the the kind of pivotal, their key product. In fact, it was based on some of the Netscape stuff from way back when, and, and some others, but anyways, it is a piece of trash. There's no two ways about it. I've been telling people to stop using it for forever. And there are so many reasons for it. And one of the big reasons is, it's not supported anymore, which means two things for everybody Jim. What it means that people are not going to get the full internet experiences they want to get. Because frankly, there are people who are designing websites and web apps and things are not testing against Internet Exploder, I mean, Explorer. Jim 4:14 Did you just say what I thought you just said? Craig 4:17 I did. Yeah, Internet Exploder. That's kind of our pet name for it. So they're not developing forward, so you don't get the good experience anymore. In fact, if you are a developer, you know that for at least 10 years, you have to develop a website for everything else in the world, Google Chrome, and Firefox, and Opera and Epic and all these different browsers. So that's great. You got one website, and then you have to upload another website for Internet Explorer, which is crazy. So you're not going to be getting the right experience. And it just doesn't have the security updates anymore. So Microsoft's Chris Jackson said he was talking about this uses the perils of using Internet Explorer as your default browser. Now, there are a lot of people who are listening, who might work for medical, you know, like a hospital or something, and they're still stuck in the Exploder world, in those cases, because again, they develop their own software, and the people who are developing it weren't very good and didn't realize maybe I shouldn't say that, because some of them might be listening. They're the best in the world. But they were stuck with Internet Explorer. And you know, in this day and age, you're using Chrome or you're using Firefox or use Epic if you're really concerned about your security out there. Who would have thought that Microsoft and finally admit that you should drag Internet Explorer into the trash? Jim 5:42 The thing is, now, if you have antivirus software, it will to some extent protect you. But if Microsoft themselves if they're not fixing Explorer, there's only so much you're antivirus software can do, right? Craig 6:03 Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. Because what we're really talking about here is a huge, huge problem for for people. Microsoft is warning you that you're not going to get the right experience. Many websites don't even work with Internet Explorer anymore. You don't get the advanced. Yeah. And then on top of it, there are vulnerabilities so yeah, you're right about the security side. Jim. Jim 6:26 All right. We're talking with Craig Peterson, our Tech Talk guru. And at the end of this segment, I'm going to give you, well, he's going to give you a number that you can text my name to, and you'll get a lot of great free information and standard data and text rates apply. But don't worry about it. You get all this great stuff. Okay. robocalls. And phone scams are all the rage in 2019. I can attest to this and we've talked about this before. Bye. I get at least three calls a day from a number in the Brockton exchange. Now let me explain why. When I lived elsewhere, for some reason, when I changed my phone number, and this was a long time ago I got a Brockton exchange. And if you know anything about Brockton is a little bit of a rough town, nothing against everybody in Brockton. But it's a little bit of a rough town. So the first time I call people on my cell phone, generally they see a Brockton exchange and I say, I'm not talking to this guy. I don't know why I got Brockton. But I got that number decades ago and I don't want to give it up. But I get these calls from a Brockton exchange all the time. And I know it's a scam. And it's interesting how they think, well, we'll make it a local call. So Jim will pick it up, when in fact, it's probably what in the Ukraine, I'm getting the phone call from? Craig 8:04 Yeah, there are a lot of places all around the world, they typically user A team. And what this is, is a spam call, right? So they've got someone who speaks English usually quite well. And they represented their debt collector, or they're from the IRS or they're from your bank. And the list just goes on and on. And the FCC just released a study they put together and the FCC saying that nearly half of all cell phone calls, and nearly half of them are going to be spam. Jim 8:44 Are you kidding? Craig 8:46 Half of them. Now, I can say for me, you know, I use that Hiya app, which is really helpful. But for me, I would say it is closer to 90% of my calls, or spam. Jim 8:54 Danny is saying, Danny, you use the Hiya app. Danny 8:57 I use the Hiya and it stops a lot of them. But like that one, I have a Framingham exchange number, and I get a Framingham call every day it won't stop that one. It stops a lot of the other ones. Craig 9:07 Yeah, it should give you a little warning, Danny that says possible. Danny 9:11 It does. Yeah, and I know exactly who it is. But yeah, some of the other hires, you can just cut it off completely. Craig 9:16 Yeah, I don't even see them. You and I would have ended up doing, and people might consider this themselves. And I kind of hate to say this, but I, you know, there's a lot of people I know. And I have all the people I know in my contacts includes everybody from LinkedIn, all of my customers and stuff. So I have like 5,000 contacts in my phone. And what I've done is I went into settings on my iPhone, and I put it into Do Not Disturb mode. And then so what happens is, you don't get any calls. You don't get any text. You don't get anything. And then there is an option in Do Not Disturb that says, but allow calls from my contacts. Jim 10:00 Oh. Craig 10:02 Yeah. Tricky eh? So now if somebody. Jim 10:04 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You just said eh. Danny caught it too. Danny looked right at me when you said eh, Craig. You can take you can take the boy out of Canada, but you can't take the Canada out of the boy. Go ahead. Go ahead. Mr. Peterson Craig 10:25 It's a beauty eh? Jim 10:28 There it is. There it is. Talking Bob McKenzie. Craig 10:30 Yeah. Exactly. Oh my gosh, back in the day, Anyways, what I do is I put my phone into Do Not Disturb mode. And then I say allow my contacts to come through. So anybody who's a contact of mine, if they call or text it's going to come right through to me. What that means is, everybody else is going to be blocked by Hiya entirely, like I never even knew they called unless I go into the app. Or they're going to get pushed over into voicemail because my phone isn't going to even alert me that someone's calling. And then I have to call them back which in this day and age how many people actually expect to speak to a person as opposed to voicemail anyways? Yeah, so so that's been my work around and with 50% of calls this year projected to be spam calls, junk calls, scam calls. You know, something people might want to consider Jim 11:28 And look, is there any risk was one of these apps of me losing an important call. There can't be. Oh, there is Craig 11:37 There is. There is because it's it. First of all Hiya is based on calls that people are reporting so if someone calls from 555-1212 and the call comes through to somebody and then they report it as a scam call if a couple of more people report that numbers a scam call then Hiya is gonna say okay this is a scam because they don't do any real investigation into it. There's just too many of them and there's hundreds of thousands of numbers now in Hiya. So yes, if you're if you're waiting for that call from your your new great job, you're not going to want to have Hiya turned on and you're not going to want to have your phone on do not disturb mode because they can get blocked and no question about it. Jim 12:23 Okay. Now, Craig, as we said, if you want to get this information and have access to the genius that is Tech Talk guru Craig Peterson what you do is text my name Jim to this number Craig 12:38 855-385-5553. That's 855-385-5553. Jim 12:47 That's right. Standard data and text rates apply. But you'll get great information and like this free webinar that was done over the weekend by Craig Peterson. Great information. Craig. Always a pleasure eh? Craig 13:04 Hey, take care. Jim 13:05 Take care. Bye-bye. Yeah. You hoser, right. Craig. Thanks. Craig Peterson, everybody. Our Tech Talk guru. I got to make sure that I send him a card on July 1 Canada Day. Yes, they have Canada Day on July 1 because they wanted to be like us. Craig 13:24 It was funny. Anyhow, I hope you're enjoying these let me know what you think. I've gotten a lot of great comments from people. You can leave a comment on iTunes that really helps to get the word out. The more people that subscribe to my podcast and leave five star reviews and hopefully you would as well on iTunes. The more people that find out about this podcast so go to iTunes while actually here's the easiest one, http://CraigPeterson.com/iTunes. How's that for easy? http://CraigPeterson.com/iTunes. I'd really appreciate it then it's going to help to get the word out. Take care. Have a great day and we will be back tomorrow. --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year! More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

Microsoft Recommending iPhones - What Should You Do With Your Old iPhone - Upgrading iPhone: AS HEARD ON: WTAG

Craig Peterson's Tech Talk

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2019 13:19

Craig is on with Jim Polito talking about iPhones - how Microsoft is recommending it, what to do with your old iPhones, and upgrading your iPhones. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 01/22/2019 Microsoft Recommending iPhones - What Should You Do With Your Old iPhone - Upgrading iPhone Craig Peterson: 0:00 Hey good morning everybody. Hopefully you got my emails I sent one out Friday I sent one out on well it sounded Of course my regular email but that special report that I put together you know the free one that talks about how to freeze your credit is available now and it's going to be a you know it's going to make a big difference in your life. I ended up reaching out as a member of the great and powerful media community in the press I reached out to the four major wrist credit reporting agencies out there and I talked to them about what the best ways are to protect your data okay well you got to all this personal information this latest hack 750 million records found online and probably wasn't one hackers probably bunch of data put together all of that stuff in one box 750 million records it's just crazy so you got to make sure that your data is safe that it's all kept safe and what's the best way to do that they told me I put together the special report I've got a free upgrade to you can get the special report better free upgrade coming this Friday I'm going to do a one just one webinar we're going to answer your questions I'm going to review the whole thing explained it all and that will be live on Friday and if you take the upgrade you're going to also be able to get that replay of it so you can work through it later on again so hopefully you got that if not send an email to me@CraigPeterson.com or check your spam box your junk box. Make sure me@CraigPeterson.com is in your contacts. Okay, this is important. And I've got a lot more special reports coming up. I've got a really great offer coming up here in the first week of February. So keep your eyes out for that as well. And everybody have a great day. I spoke with Jim this morning all about the iPhone. So if you've been wondering about upgrading, if you have a Microsoft phone and you heard the latest news, or even if you didn't hear the latest news, listen in because here we go with Jim Unknown 2:14 man, one of the most popular segments on the show. And I'm talking about our friends at Tech Talk guru. Craig Peterson. Good morning, Craig. Unknown 2:24 Hey, good morning. You know, it's it's too bad. That great looking guys like us. You know, our faces don't come through. But at least our voices are there, right. Unknown 2:37 You and I could scare varnish off a mahogany table. Unknown 2:42 You know what I mean? You know what happened? Unknown 2:48 You're very handsome man. Craig. Just like me. How about Unknown 2:53 two very young, very young to Yes, Unknown 2:55 very young. Hey, I want to call an audible here much like Tom Brady does. Every once in a while. When he gets up to the line of scrimmage and changes his mind. Unknown 3:06 In the past couple of weeks. My Apple Unknown 3:13 iPhone 6 has been 6S or whatever it is, has just been. It's telling me Jim, I want you to put me down. You know what I mean? It's it's telling me that and and I said to Kathy God, I hate to spend money on a new phone. And she said, Well, ask Craig Peterson what he thinks. And I said, Well, I yeah. I said, I'm going to tell him. I want apple. And I'm going to tell him that I don't think I need the apple 10 or whatever it is. So right now I'm with a six. Craig, what would you recommend? I do? Because I know there's a lot of other people out there who have the same dilemma right now. Unknown 3:57 Yeah, well, in fact, I don't know if you heard about Microsoft is small software company up in Seattle. Unknown 4:04 rings a little bit of a bell. I I noticed that bill Bella check. had one of their tablets. Yeah, during Sunday night's game, and he threw it if that means anything, he actually threw it. Yeah, Unknown 4:18 he's done that before. This was Unknown 4:20 not because the tablet wasn't functioning those because the ref wouldn't pay attention to something he was showing him on the tablet. But Unknown 4:29 yeah, well, it's at Microsoft. And, you know, they've come up with some all kinds of me to products that include that Surface tablet that was advertised like crazy on the game. Because of course, they had to keep going to replace and they they had Microsoft Surface all over the replay. Unknown 4:48 But Microsoft has one of the things is their phones, right? They've got Windows Phone, and it's the bend the answer to so many people that just they love and adore windows. And it's what they're used to supposed to be compatible. Yeah, exactly. Well, Unknown 5:09 about a week ago, Microsoft announced that, hey, switch to an iPhone, Unknown 5:17 we're not going to have Windows phone anymore. Microsoft is is completely killing off their windows phone line. 100% gone. Unknown 5:30 So if you thought about switching to Windows 10 Mobile on your Windows Phone, it's time to have a serious look at the iPhone or maybe an Android phone. Because the Windows 10 Mobile support page says that they're going to stop sending as of December 2019 this year. So you got almost a year it's going to stop sending new security updates, non security hot fixes, there will be no more free assessment support options. No technical content updates from Microsoft available unless you pay extra Unknown 6:07 so it is dead. So Jim, you're constantly one this is I think this is a great tactical move move from Microsoft. Because Come on. There is one phone out there that that people should buy today. And right now that the iPhone, so you're right to say, Hey, listen, I've got this success. Yeah, what should I do next? It probably should be apple. And apparently Microsoft agrees with you. Unknown 6:36 Hey, listen, if I can get Bill Gates to agree with me that I'm all set. That makes me that makes me brilliant. Oh, yeah, that's right. He's not running the company anymore. is he now? So then? Okay. So then I don't listen. You know me. I don't want to, you know, spend a lot of money I just needed decent, reliable phone. I don't need it to make my coffee in the morning. I need because I can't do my job. Without it. It is it is my show prep. 24/7. Is that device in my hands. So it's Unknown 7:15 amazing. Yeah, well, there's a couple of things you could do here. So let me run through the options because I'm sure there's a lot of listeners kind of in the same boat right now maybe looking to get out of Android space because it is so dangerous. But here are your options. First of all, Apple has introduced that policy now for very inexpensive battery replacements. And that means as a rule it's less than 50 bucks Unknown 7:43 done it already I took the deal that you said to take and I put put the battery in for 30 bucks. Unknown 7:49 Right, even better back then. Absolutely. So that's your first option for people to consider. The next option is if you are really tight for money most carriers have deals on last two generations sometimes even three generations of Apple phone okay so most of these carriers will give you for cheap money you know just we're talking about some of them have even had deals for a box for an iPhone seven Now unlike Microsoft and Android the seven still going to be supported for a few years to come. Right so it's not a bad thing I have an iPhone eight Yeah, I like you did not get the 10 the eight has the same internal gap as the iPhone can get. Ok now the new tans the XR and the access Max and stuff those guys have a little bit faster guts but I can tell you the iPhone eight as the great new camera technology not the absolute latest greatest but it's phenomenal including the real smart portrait mode it even has a processor dedicated to taking pictures Jeremy it will make you a phenomenal picture taker Unknown 9:10 wow I'm already actually I'm not bragging a good photographer Unknown 9:14 Well there you go Unknown 9:17 I know how to compose a shot so wait a minute because my friend Peter who's a regular listeners iPhone 6. Come on Jim time to upgrade to the x axis Unknown 9:32 if I was in the market today I Unknown 9:34 Peters a wealthy man. Peters a very well, yeah, Unknown 9:37 there you go. I would not get the access. And part of it. Reason is, I don't like the newest technology. Here's the tech guys saying I like to stay a generation or so behind unless Unknown 9:50 somebody else feel the pain, right. So seriously, consider the iPhone eight. It it's a great phone. And I've got to put the burden for Apple to say have dramatically decreased some of the costs options here on the new iPhone axis. And one of them is that you can trade in your older iPhones and get even as much as $300 towards the purchase of a new phone. Wow. And look at the rental options. Because some carriers like T-Mobile, for instance, have a rental deal works an extra depends on the phone, but tend to only it's $30 a month for one of these brand new iPhone access with the facial recognition. And so then what happens is if if you keep the phone and keep reading it for two years, it's yours. And if you decide to leave the plan, you just return the phone. They'll give you a new one if you want to under the rental agreement. So look at that if you can't afford the files of dollars or more even for the newest latest greatest phone look at the iPhone eight and look at rental option for the iPhone tense. But me personally right now, today, I would do an iPhone eight. And if money was really tight, and I could get a great deal on an iPhone seven. Have a serious look at that too. And refurbished phones from Apple come with really great warranties. So have a look at that as well. Because there are repurpose phones available from Apple. And you can save a ton of money by doing that. Unknown 11:29 I got my answer. And that was a great segment. I know that we didn't get to the stuff that Craig sent me. But I knew that I know that other phone and I can tell now by all of the messages I'm receiving from listeners, Craig, that that was a big deal for everybody. So all the stuff we were going to talk about fear not you can get it you can get it every single week. Did you hear me every single week because Craig puts together all of this information. And all you have to do is text to my name to this number 855-385-5553. 855-385-5553 Unknown 12:18 standard data and text rates apply. But you get all of this great information. And if there's ever a big issue, there's a hack. There's a Oh, one of the credit reporting agencies gets hacked. Craig Peterson is there by your side to tell you what to do. And he doesn't charge you for this. He doesn't sell your name to anyone. And he doesn't take advantage of the fact that he has your cell phone number by bombarding you with texts. So do it. It's it's worth it. And Craig, thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate the good advice. Unknown 12:59 Thank you, Frank German and good idea to follow Cathy's advice too. Unknown 13:07 Bye Bye. Thanks Unknown 13:08 Craig Peterson everybody one of the most popular segments on the show when we return a final word you're listening to the Jim Polito show, your safe space. --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year! More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

NFL Week 12: Playoffs! You Kidding Me?

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2018 89:32

Week 12 of the NFL regular season came and went in the blink of an eye. So Jim, Simon and the returned Punk Raider, sit down to chew over where the league stands when it comes to the impending play-offs. As Punk has finally shown up again, It's only right that the boys dissect just what's going on in Oakland. Felony watch is dedicated to the latest wrong un in the NFL, before the King telegraphs his Picks for the Week 13 games in the King Vs the People. jimandtheking.com @jimandtheking

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Two Lists From I'm Sorry I Love You (And Also Jim's Summer Adventures)

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2018 50:28

So Jim's had a rather big summer (hence the lack of podcasts during those sweltering months), so here he gives you a mini catchup on what he's been up to, along with a different spin on two lists from his book "I'm Sorry, I Love You: A History of Professional Wrestling". Buy that via www.jimsmallman.com/bookSUPPORT THIS PODCAST! It's on Spotify now too. Tell the world! Rate it! Review it! You know the drill. And tweet Jim via @jimsmallman using #TuesdayNightJaw.TNJ remains super stoked to be part of the Distraction Pieces Network. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

NFL Week 7 Review 2018

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Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2018 69:17

Week 7 vanished from before our eyes. So Jim and the King and a Denver Dave had better remind us of what went down over the last 7 days of our favourite football! Featuring a desperate Dallas trade for Amari Cooper Patrick Peterson waking from a coma to realise he's spent his career with the Cardinals Stupid play calling from the Giants and Titans The Jags are back in Blake for the London game after a benching Felony Watch Rounded off with the King's Picks for all 14 Week 8 games. jimandtheking.com @jimandtheking

The Roots of No Barriers: A Conversation with Co-founder Mark Wellman

No Barriers

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2018 50:35

Mark Wellman is a nationally acclaimed author, filmmaker and motivational speaker. Despite being paralyzed in a mountain climbing accident, Mark has inspired millions to meet their problems head-on and reach for their full potential. A two-time Paralympian and former Yosemite Park Ranger, Mark's NO LIMITS philosophy encourages individuals to adventure into new horizons; to go beyond the seeming unreachable. Mark is used to being on the road since he travels throughout the year, bringing his adaptive climbing wall to companies, organizations, and schools. We caught him during one of his road trips and he agreed to swing by Golden, Colorado to the No Barriers podcast studio and catch up with his old friends, Jeff, Dave, and Erik. Mark is unbelievably accomplished but also reserved and humble. He talks about his legendary, groundbreaking athletic achievements with the same tone most use to describe what they had for lunch. But there was a time in Mark's life where he was unsure, depressed, and hopeless with no clear path ahead. Mark discusses his near-death injury that he sustained on a climb that left his paralyzed from the waist down. He spent months in the hospital unsure of how to go forward and lost. That was, until he received some wisdom. I had this one physical trainer, she was from Germany, and she said: “You need to train like your training for the Olympics!” And I just really took that to heart.” Mark first was determined to find employment where he could stay connected to the outdoors. So, he went back to school and got his degree in Park Management. He worked as a Park Ranger in various capacities, already shattering people's ideas of what he was capable of, but that was just the beginning. He soon discovered the world of adaptive sports and threw himself into learning more and designing his own adaptive equipment to get back out into the field. It was then he came up with the crazy idea of climbing the sheer granite face of El Capitan. He found a partner, built an ascending rope pulley system, and started to train. Now, folks of many different abilities have climbed El Cap, but until Mark, this was unthinkable. He pulled it off and became the first paraplegic to make the ascent. “Are you crazy to take this paraplegic guy up El Cap? Seems like a really stupid idea. Something could go wrong,’ but fortunately we didn’t really listen to that.” Mark went on to gain tons of media attention, made national and international news, met the President, lit the flaming torch up a 120-foot rope at the Paralympic games in Atlanta; a fun story he shared with us, and continued on to break even more records of athletic achievement, like being the first paraplegic to sit-ski unassisted across the Sierra Nevadas. Listening to Mark describe his epic achievements it's easy to forget he has a disability or about all the struggle that led him to this point in his life. But for Mark, it's about mindset. “I learned my disability wasn’t a death sentence - let’s get on with life, dude!” But Mark wanted to share what he learned with others. He details the spark of an idea he had with a friend that led to the formation of the nonprofit, No Barriers, and the humble beginnings of an organization that is now becoming a movement. He uses his time to speak to groups and offer inspiration, as well as lead hands-on adaptive activities that get people out of their comfort zones. “Let’s get out and enjoy life.” Read Mark's Autobiography Here Visit Mark's website: No Limits Learn more about No Barriers autobiography Climbing Back. The first paraplegic to sit-ski unassisted across the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range, --------------- EPISODE TRANSCRIPT ------------------------- Dave: Well welcome to our No Barriers podcast. We are thrilled today to have Mark Wellman with us, who's one of the founders of No Barriers. Can't wait to hear some of his stories about what this organization was founded upon. He's really the heart and soul behind why many of us are here at the organization. Before we get into that conversation, Erik, you just came back from a really interesting experience, why don't share with our listeners a little bit about it? Erik: [00:00:30] Yeah, I was at a conference with all these authors. There were four of us, and the first was a lady, she was the author of Hidden Figures, this great book that was made into a movie, these African American women who were behind getting us to the moon, didn't get any credit at first, but then their stories were really illuminated by her book. And this guy who is falsely sent to death row for 30 years. He was incarcerated- Dave: Wow. Erik: In a five by [00:01:00] seven room, had to kind of go into his mind and think about how to expand his mind. He said in his mind he married Halle Berry. They were married for 25 happy years. Dave: When was this set? Erik: Recently. Literally just got out of ... he got out of jail, no apology from Alabama. But he wrote this amazing book, so ... And then a lady who wrote a book called Beauty Sick, mostly [00:01:30] about girls who struggle with body image, and how much productivity is lost in the world because girls are having to pay attention to makeup, and weight, and all the things that they worry about. Guys too, but mostly the focus was on girls, and I have a daughter, so I was sitting there just hanging on every word, thinking about my daughter and her struggle, so it was really book because it was four very No Barriers... Dave: That's a lot of No Barriers. Erik: ...authors right there. [00:02:00] Maybe we'll get them on the podcast at some point. Dave: That sounds like perfect fit for the kinds of topics we explore. Erik: Yeah. And I am totally thrilled... this is great. I'm so psyched to have my friend, all our friends, Mark Wellman on the podcast today. Dave: The legend. Erik: The legend, the dirt bag... is that okay to say? Mark: Yeah, yeah. Dave: You embrace it, right? Mark: It's great to be here. I embrace everything. Erik: Mark almost doesn't need an introduction, but Mark is [00:02:30] a world class adventurer, and an innovator, and is the key founder of No Barriers. Has done amazing things that blow your mind as an adventurer. Has skied across the Ruth Gorge. Has traversed the Sierra Nevada mountain range. Has mountain biked the White Rim Trail. Has climbed El Capitan, Half Dome. We were just talking this morning, your Half [00:03:00] Dome ascent was 13 days? Mark: Yeah, it was. Erik: On the wall. Just, Mark, a hero of mine for sure. You're a few years older than me. When I was a teenager and you were just a little bit older climbing El Capitan and doing all these amazing adventures, you were a huge part of my motivation, so I'm psyched right now. Mark: It's great to be here, thanks a lot Erik. Yeah I guess I could [00:03:30] start off with... 35 years ago I was an able bodied climber and we were climbing a peak called Seven Gables, which is pretty close to the Mount Whitney area. We had a 20 mile backpack to get into the base, and this is back in 1982, I was 22 years old. My good friend Peter Enzinger and I were back there to do this climb. [00:04:00] We set up a base camp about 10,000 feet, and the next morning we got up pretty early, grabbed our technical rock climbing equipment and left most of our provisions at the base camp, our sleeping bags. Sure would have been nice to have that sleeping bag with us but didn't have it. And we climbed Seven Gables. It was sort of technical, kind of a mixed route. There was a little bit of ice, a little bit of rock, and made [00:04:30] the ascent. By the time we topped of it was a little bit late in the afternoon, about five o'clock. We just embraced this beautiful view from the summit. American Alpine Club places sometimes these cairns, or climbing registers, at the top of the mountain. It was kind of cool to see this. In this case it was just a pile of rocks with a Folgers coffee can. And I opened up the Folgers coffee can and dumped out the little pieces of paper, and there's my [00:05:00] hero Royal Robbins had climbed it. "Cool man, I'm gonna put my name next to Royal." Did that, and then we decided we're gonna go down a class four descent on the backside, just scrambling, not roped. We were just kind of walking down a tail of slope. I'll be the first to kind of admit my guard was down. My partner said, "Hey, maybe we should put a rope on [00:05:30] this one section here." I go, "No, no. I wanna get down to base camp, I'm really hungry. There's some really good freeze-dried food I wanna eat." You know that wonderful Mountain House stuff. Erik: And 35 years ago. Dave: Delicious. [crosstalk 00:05:44] Mark: So next thing I knew, I slipped on some scree, and I pitched forward and I started rolling. I made a couple of somersaults and I rolled off about a 100 foot cliff. When I landed I broke my lower back at T 11, T 12. Of course at the time I didn't know it. [00:06:00] I was 22, I didn't even know what a wheelchair was. That happened, and my partner thought I possibly could have been killed. But he heard me yell back at him. He got down to where I was... he said he spent a couple hours with me stopping some bleeding on my legs, and some other stuff. Jeff: What's your recollection of that period of time... Mark: He said he was with me for two hours, it felt like ten minutes. Erik: Right. Mark: And then he left. [00:06:30] He left an orange, an extra jacket, and some trail mix and said "Man, I gotta get out and get some help." So after 30 hours, the best sound I've ever heard in my whole life was the sound of this... [helicopter sounds] ...coming up the canyon. Erik: You almost froze to death. Mark: It was cold that night. Yeah it was real cold. I was laying on some ice. That probably helped because it kept the swelling down in my back. So I'm an incomplete [00:07:00] para. I have a little bit of movement in my legs. They said that might have helped me, the swelling. But the helicopter got up there, it was actually a ship from the Forest Service. They were gonna just go up and see if it was more of a body recovery, but fortunately I waved to them and the helicopter disappeared. About an hour later, a second helicopter came up and this time was from Lemoore Navy Base, and they did [00:07:30] a technical rescue. Flew in, brought the rotors within several feet of the cliff surface, lowered a navy medic, got me in a stokes litter, got me back up into the ship. I was down at a trauma center, they were cutting my clothes off, and a nurse said, "Who's your insurance company?" And fortunately I did have insurance, I had Kaiser. I went through stabilization of my back with Harrington rods. I was in the hospital in 1982 for seven months. Dave: [00:08:00] Wow. Erik: Including rehab? Mark: Including rehab and the whole nine yards. And nowadays, a paraplegic if you go to Craig Hospital, it's kind of the factory up here in the west. A paraplegic will be in the hospital for about six weeks. It's pretty dramatic... in those days, it was a much longer hospitalization. Learning how to take care of yourself. And then... Erik: More time is better, right? I mean, [00:08:30] would make sense right? You can develop more time? Mark: Yeah, a little bit. I think seven months was a little excessive. Erik: Right. Mark: But you know, there's a lot to learn. Your life has really changed. Your spinal cord runs your body, and you're paralyzed from your waist down. You have bowel and bladder issues. You have skin issues you have to be careful about. So all those things were really important, and I had this one [00:09:00] physical therapist who was from Germany and she goes, "You need to train like you're training for the Olympics." I just really took that to heart and started lifting weights. Was ambulating with long leg braces. This was sort of the beginning of the wheelchair revolution where wheelchairs weren't a stale piece of medical equipment, they were a lightweight piece of aluminum that was more of an extension of your body. And the wheelchair [00:09:30] could take you from point A to point B. Fortunately, in 1982 was really when these wheelchairs... they started making lightweight chairs. And I was a part of that. Erik: Not the clunky Vietnam-era things, right? Mark: Exactly. The old Everest and Jennings chairs were more obsolete, and they were using... well there was a woman who started Quickie wheelchairs, Marilyn Hamilton, she got hurt in a hang gliding accident. They took hang gliding technology, clevis pins, aluminum, powder coat. [00:10:00] And they kind of messier of manufacturing these wheelchairs sort of like... taking the technology from hang gliders and applying it to wheelchairs. Erik: We're still less than ten podcasts in here, but we've already heard a lot of stories of people... these No Barrier stories of people who go down deep into these dark places. I don't want to bring you down, but you have a lot of experience right now and so you can look back. You went to a dark [00:10:30] place, obviously. Mark: Yeah. It was close to saying goodbye to this Earth. Fortunately I made it through. I remember getting back into rehab, then I met a state rehab counselor who said, "You know Mark, you have this great love, this great passion for the outdoors, why don't you become a park ranger?" And I'm thinking, "How's somebody in a wheelchair gonna be a park ranger?" I'm thinking [00:11:00] law enforcement, search and rescue, and she goes "No, there's many hats in the National Park Service, or many different jobs." She took me down to Fort Funston where I met a ranger who kind of showed me the ropes and said "Hey, you could maybe do a job, this would be an entry level position, but you could help us plant dune grass and work in the nursery, or you could go to the entrance gate and help out there." [00:11:30] So I did that for a summer and then I went back to school and went to West Valley College and studied park management. Erik: Cool. Mark: And became a ranger at Yosemite. I remember my first job wasn't exactly my idea being a ranger. There I was sitting in this little kiosk, this little booth, at Big Oak Flat, the entrance to Yosemite. In those days it was a three dollar entrance fee and I'd collect the money and be breathing in auto fumes all day long. That really wasn't [00:12:00] my idea of being a ranger. But it was entry level. The next summer I went down to Yosemite Valley and started working at the visitor's center doing interpretation. Interpreting the natural processes of the park, the public. Bear management, geology, climbing was a big subject too. I'd give programs on climbing, talk about A climbing versus free climbing. Jeff: Were you transparent with people that would come through the park, with how your injury took place? [00:12:30] When you'd talk about the [crosstalk 00:12:31] Mark: I was, I was. I would start my climbing program off with my accident, actually. And bring that in, because I think that was a big part of it. They might say, "Well who's this guy in a wheelchair, what does he know about climbing?" I'd kind of bring that in. That was before I climbed El Cap, I was doing those things. Jeff: Were you percolating on doing something like that when you were there? Mark: I was. It's kind of an interesting story. There was a magazine called Sports And Spokes, it was a wheelchair [00:13:00] athletic magazine. On the front cover on that magazine was a DSUSA chapter, a woman who was being lowered down a cliff in a wheelchair on a river rafting trip. The river went over a waterfall, and then you did portage all the equipment around the waterfall. They had a swami belt and a climbing rope and they had a helmet, I guess they wanted to put a helmet on her for safety, sounded like a good idea. And they lowered her down this cliff in this wheelchair, [00:13:30] and it was on the front cover of this magazine, Sports And Spokes. I got the magazine at my little cabin in Yosemite and I had it on my lap. I was wheeling over to the visitor center to open it up in the morning, and I bumped into my future climbing partner Mike Corbet. And Mike's nickname was Mr. El Cap back in the 80s, he had climbed El Cap more than anybody else in the world, over 50 times. And Mike had never really talked about climbing to me because he knew that's how I got hurt. But when [00:14:00] I showed him this picture, Mike's eyes got really big, and he got really excited. He goes, "You know what Mark, I wanna start climbing with you, but what I really wanna do is climb El Cap." And we had no idea how we were gonna do it. Dave: That's great. Mark: That evening, we were sitting at the mountain room bar, we might have had a beer or two. Dave: Or three. Jeff: That's where all good decisions are made. Mark: Where all good decisions are made. So we had a little beer napkin and we started writing down notes. We said, "Okay, [00:14:30] we're gonna take a jumar..." A jumar is a rope ascender, this was back in the day, kind of like what Kleenex is to tissue. So we took a jumar, and we mounted a pull up bar and a jumar, and then we had a second ascender on a chest harness. And we put a rope up right by the Ahwahnee Hotel. Church ball tree. It was an oak tree. We had this rope and we started ascending up into the tree and then he'd lower me back down. So we go, "Okay, [00:15:00] so a paraplegic can ascend a rope using their upper body strength. Now to get on El Capitan, we got to actually protect your lower extremities from the granitic rock." We knew we were gonna be up there at least a week. I don't have feeling in my legs, so I really needed to protect my legs from any kind of abrasion or any kind of sore that could have occurred up there. We went down to this hardware store in Fresno, California outside [00:15:30] of the park. We bought some leather, a speedy stitcher, some closed cell insulation foam, and we just started making these rock chaps and they sort of evolved over a course of six months. We were climbing Jam Crack, Warner's... Erik: Weren't they... what was the material of those? I've felt your chaps before. That sound's weird... Dave: The truth comes out. Jeff: Hey, we're all friends here. Mark: The original [00:16:00] rock chaps were made out of leather and canvas. But the pair of rock chaps you felt were actually made out of some kind of silky material. No, no... Dave: Oh that was lingerie? Not chaps. Jeff: This was the first No Barriers improv meeting, what you're talking about, with your buddy Mike. Mark: Absolutely. Jeff: That was it, that was the genesis of what... fast forward to today, that was the beginning. What [00:16:30] year was that? 1980... Mark: That was 1988. Jeff: 88. There you go. Mark: Yeah 88. I was 28 years old. Erik: So if you think about it that way, No Barriers began in the Ahwahnee bar. Jeff: Yeah, on a bar stool. On a bar napkin. Dave: I know you guys are all dirt bag climbers. I'm not a dirt bag climber. For our listeners who are not dirt bag climbers, someone paint a picture, because we're getting to the El Cap story. Which is a phenomenal story. Paint a picture of El Cap for us, because not everyone knows what that is. Jeff: Yeah, well. El Cap [00:17:00] is probably the most revered, iconic, monolith in North America if not the world. Uninterrupted, over 3000 feet of granite. It is... when you're in Yosemite, you look up at it and it's got this perfectly symmetrical flank apron on both sides that comes out into this promontory called the nose. And [00:17:30] you can't take your eyes off it. If you look away for a minute, you have to look back at it just cause it's so magnificent and powerful. And it represents so much too. If you want to call yourself a climber, you kind of have to climb El Cap at some point. Erik: When you stand in the meadows below, which is just clogged with tourists just all driving by gawking. What I've heard, is you have to look up and up and up, way higher than [00:18:00] you think you have to. Dave: And if you see a person climbing, as a person who's not a technical climber speaking, you think "Those people are crazy. They're insane. What are they doing up there?" Jeff: Erik and I climbed El Cap. And his dad, Erik's dad, and future wife were down there in the meadow with telescopes watching us. We had one of those little lighty things, little sticks, and we were shining our headlamps down at everybody. It's [00:18:30] a magnificent thing, but it's also very intimidating. It can be very cool when you stand up and look at it, but then the idea of going and climbing it I think is a whole different story. Erik: And as a quote on quote gimp, and that's a word by the way that Mark taught me. I never even heard that word before. It's one of those words I guess you somehow have the license to use if you are... Mark: If you are. Erik: If you are in a chair or you are blind. So what did, when you talked about this out loud, what did people [00:19:00] think? Are people like, "You're nuts." Mark: Yeah, we had kind of a mixture of both. People that knew us, were "Oh yeah you guys should go do this." Mark's been training, he's always skiing, always riding his bike, hand bike around... well in those days it was more of a row cycle. And then we had people say, mainly not to me so much but more to Mike, "Are you crazy? Take this paraplegic guy up El Cap? Seems like a really stupid [00:19:30] idea. Something could go wrong." But fortunately, we didn't really listen to that. We just started training, we made these rock chaps. Like I said, they kind of just evolved over about a six month period. We kind of have a little circuit in Yosemite Valley that we climbed together. We did Jam Crack, the Prude, Warner's Crack, The Rostrum, we went over there. Erik: Oh, wow. Mark: So we did some stuff in the Valley [00:20:00] just to really warm up. And then I actually went up and spent a night on El Cap. Because we wanted to feel what that was like. Jeff: Up at sickle? Mark: We actually went to Heart Ledge. Erik: Wow. Jeff: Over on the south. Mark: Yeah, over on the south. The route we were gonna climb was a shield. So... Jeff: Cause it's overhanging. Mark: It was overhanging... once you get over the shield roof it's overhanging. The beginning of it's not. It's pretty low angle. Jeff: Were you scared at all before you did this or [00:20:30] were you just super fired up and kind of naïve? Mark: I was scared the night before. Jeff: You were. Mark: Yeah. Jeff: Like really scared? Mark: Yeah I was... couldn't sleep. This kind of what happened was... really Mike, about two weeks before we're gonna blast off, Mike goes, "Man we've trained so hard for this, I'm gonna write a letter to Tom Brokaw..." who is the national NBC News guy, who is a climber too, a little bit. And, I'm going, "Okay... " so basically [00:21:00] Corbet just wrote out a note with a pencil. He was a janitor at the Yosemite Medical Clinic to support his addiction to climbing. He just wrote a little note to Tom Brokaw, and I think three or four days later he's talking to... Tom Brokaw called the medical clinic and talked to Mike, and said "We want to come out and do this story." Erik: Gosh. Mark: And all of a sudden the pressure was on. That's when I really was thinking, "Wow you're telling national news, this is gonna add [00:21:30] a lot more pressure for myself." But as soon as we got to the base of El Cap and I touched that granite, all that training and preparation really got into par, and I got relaxed. I started doing pull up after pull up, dragging myself up the largest unbroken granite cliff in North America, El Capitan, and the first night... we do something called, we fix pitches. So we were fixed [00:22:00] up about 800 feet. So we had... Mike used to say, "It's always nice to kind of have a jumpstart." Erik: Right. Mark: You know, fix those lines, get all your water, we had 250 pounds... Erik: It's like a trail of ropes that go up 800 feet so you can just... Mark: The next morning... Erik: Start on the ground and zip up 800 feet and have like a jumpstart on this gigantic monolith. Mark: Exactly. And have all your water, all your gear up there. So he had to work three or four days to make that happen prior to us [00:22:30] leaving. Once we left Mammoth Terrace, we were on our own. We went through the Gray Ledges, and we went over... the roof was really tremendous. Because Mike is basically climbing upside down, and then gets up onto the pitch above it and fixes a rope. Then I kind of untied myself and I swing underneath that roof, and you can hear the cheers of the people down below. It's like [00:23:00] what Jeff was saying, It's quite a scene at the El Cap meadow. You really have to have binoculars. It's hard to see climbers up there, because they're so tiny, they're like little ants up there. If you don't know what to look for, it's hard to see these people. The crowd was yelling, and the green dragon would come by. It's a tour vehicle that has it's open air shuttle. Erik: "If you look upright you will see a nutcase [00:23:30] climbing El Capitan." Mark: We could actually hear them talking about "Mike Corbet, Mark Wellman, first paraplegic..." So that was kind of interesting. Finally when we topped out, it was seven nights, eight days of climbing. This was before digital technology on El Cap, when national news came out. They had a mule train, they brought out a satellite dish that was like five feet wide, and we were live on top of El [00:24:00] Cap talking to Tom Brokaw. Jeff: Sick. Mark: And we've got... between the Today Show and NBC News, and in a week we were on TV for like several hours if you took all the time that they played this. There wasn't really much going on in the news, so they really kind of played this story up in a big way. As soon as we got off that climb, about a week later, we're sitting in the Oval [00:24:30] Office talking to President Bush. It was myself, Mike Corbet, "Writtenaur" who was Secretary of the Interior, and Jack Morehead, superintendent of Yosemite. The four of us are in the White House, in the Oval Office, talking about bone fishing because President Bush loved to bone fish and we presented him with a flag that we took with us on the climb, and it changed my life. Erik: Mark, so you're not that old, but I see [00:25:00] you sort of as the father of adventur e sports for people with disabilities. I want people to understand that the idea to climb El Cap back in the 80s... nowadays, I think... how many people have climbed El Cap in chairs, paras? Mark: Oh the chairs? Erik: Dozens, right? Mark: Yeah, dozens. Erik: But you sort of unleashed that. You opened up this door. And now, quote on quote gimps are doing everything, right? Mark: Every summer there's [00:25:30] a paraplegic. Erik: But you opened that door for all of us. So, it's sort of a crazy thought to me. Mark: It is. You can't take the first ascent of El Cap, you can't take that away from me. That's something I'll always remember. It was a huge accomplishment for both Mike and I, and there's been different paraplegics who have gone up it. A gentleman with cerebral palsy, Steve Wampler, was probably the most [00:26:00] disabled person that's been up there. Lots of amputees. I call them amputees, hardly disabled. Paraplegics wanna be amputees. Erik: Those will be our first complaint letters. Dave: Exactly. [crosstalk 00:26:15] Mark: Quadriplegics wanna be paraplegics. Everybody has their differences. There's been a quadriplegic, incomplete quadriplegic, climbed El Cap with Tommy Thompson, good climber. [00:26:30] Steve Muse. Erik: There's that kid who climbed The Chief, he was inspired by you. Mark: Yep. Erik: He was a quad, and he climbed The Chief. He invented kind of this, almost like a contraption with wheels if I remember right, that kind of rolled up the face. Mark: Yeah it was... the premise was taking the Dolt cart. A climber by name of Dolt had this cart and he used to use it for a hauling system on El Cap. Brad "Szinski", the Canadian guy you're talking about, he came up with this [00:27:00] cart. His hands didn't really work as well as a paraplegic, he lost some muscle mass in his hands and fingers. So he had a different type of system where he could ascend a rope using a crank, and developed that. So there's been all kinds of different adaptations that allow people that are wheelchair users to go rock climbing. Jeff: This sort of set you [00:27:30] on this course to being an improvisational pioneer, those are my words. Were you like that always or do you feel like your accident cued you up for this opportunity to then over the past thirty years... Mark: Thirty five. Jeff: Yeah thirty five years. Now you've continued this trajectory of being this pioneer when it comes to just making it work. You make it work, right? Mark: I was so young. When I got hurt [00:28:00] I was 22. I wasn't climbing big walls, I hadn't got to that point yet of climbing El Cap. Finally, when I did have my accident it kind of made sense. The steeper the climb for somebody in a chair the better. Mountaineering is gonna be really tough. There are ways of doing mountaineering. We got four paraplegics on top of Mount Shasta. Erik: Yep. Mark: And there was a guy named Pete "Rikee". It's funny... people [00:28:30] come to me if they've got an idea, a lot of times they'll want me to be a part of the project. Least... Erik: That was a pod that they were in, that had almost like tractor wheels, right? Mark: Exactly. What we did is we took a snowmobile and cut the snowmobile track in half and made a tractor stance. So you have two tracks and a seat with a bicycle crank, and we actually crank our way up Mount Shasta. We had to get special permit from the Forest [00:29:00] Service. You can only be on Shasta for three days, and we knew we were gonna be up there for a week. So I had to drive up... I was trying to explain to this district ranger on the telephone, he really wasn't getting it. Erik: Sometimes they don't get it. Mark: And he wasn't getting it at all. He was thinking mechanical device... Jeff: Motorized... Mark: Right. He knew who I was, so he said "Come up and bring the machine with you so I can take a look at it." So I brought one of the snow pods up there and I met with the district ranger [00:29:30] and a couple of his back country rangers, and they got it. They said, "This is cool man, we'd like to let you guys do this." They gave us a special use permit. The big thing about the Forest Service and wilderness, or National Park Service wilderness, you cannot take... supposedly mechanized devices cannot go into the wilderness. But if you have a disability, your bicycle could almost be considered a wheelchair, or your snow pod can be considered [00:30:00] a wheelchair. Long as it doesn't have a Briggs and Stratton engine on it. That was the big thing, it has to be a manual piece of a gear that's human powered. So we got that, and we got four paraplegics on top of Mount Shasta. Erik: And El Cap really launched you into being able to do all these amazing things, right? You pretty much became a professional climber, adventurer, doing these things around the world. I know you lit the torch for the Paralympics, right? Mark: I did, I lit the Paralympic torch in Atlanta in 1996. [00:30:30] Muhammad Ali lit it for the able bodied Olympics. They had this torch, and the night before we're training for it... it's a big surprise, they don't want to see the person light the torch the night before, no media, so we're out there. I was gonna climb an 80 foot rope doing rope ascension, doing pull up after pull up. And North Face made me a little, kind of a... we envisioned this Robin Hood thing with... behind [00:31:00] my shoulders, this arrow quiver where I put the actual torch in. I didn't wanna burn my hair, what's left of it, so... Erik: You had a lot more hair... Mark: So I said, "Let's make this torch holder so it comes off your legs." So they made that for me. That night we're training, I get up the 80 foot rope, and I lit the fuse and the fuse blew out. Erik: Oh no. Mark: And the pyrotechnics guy goes, it was windy, and the [00:31:30] next day it was gonna be windy too. So the pyrotechnics guy guys... "Okay Mark, I'll make sure this fuse doesn't go out the night you do it." And I go, "Great." So I get up there in front of 80,000 people, I'm climbing up this rope. Liza Minnelli is singing this song and she's going "Go Mark, Go Mark." The whole stadium of 80,000 people is going nuts. So I lit this fuse, and literally the thing blew up. There was fire all over me. And I'm leaning back, hoping I'm not gonna catch [00:32:00] on fire. Then the fuse went up and lit the actual cauldron, and that was the start of the 1996 Summer Olympics. Jeff: You did not combust. Mark: I did not combust. I had the best seat in the house. Erik: You'd be like a Motley Crue drummer. Mark: Exactly. So that was fun. Erik: Takes us on a little tour of what you did. All those amazing adventures that you did after that. Takes us on a little tour around the world. Mark: What a lot of people don't realize, which I think is harder than climbing [00:32:30] El Cap, or spending 13 days on Half Dome was another big ascent we did years ago... but was doing the Trans Sierra ski crossing. I've done it twice now. I did it in 1993, it was a big winner, and I did it in 2011. So we took a cross country Nordic sit ski. You sit low to the ground, you have two skis mounted underneath a frame with a seat, and you're sitting maybe a foot off the snow. And you have two [00:33:00] poles, and you actually double pole. So you're double poling to make this device go down the trail. I was on the US Disabled Nordic Ski Team. Competed in two Paralympics, in France and in Norway. Got beat up by the Finns, the Norwegians, they're so passionate about that sport. Jeff: And they're vikings. Mark: And they're vikings, man. They're so tough. My best finish out of 30 guys was of fifth place, that was in France. [00:33:30] In Norway, I got even more beat up. I wanted to actually get into Nordic ski racing because I had other things I wanted to do. I wanted to try to get into the back country in a Nordic ski. Back in 93 a guy named Jeff Pegles and myself was also on the US disabled Nordic team. We took sleds, little polks, behind our rigs. We had our bivy gear. And we skied 55 miles from Snowline [00:34:00] on the east side of the Sierra on Tioga road, we got someone to open up the gate. Guy that worked for the power company opened up the gate. We got up to Snowline and we skied from Snowline to Crane Flat, which is 55 miles. Jeff: Wow. Mark: Following the Tioga road. Jeff: Just the two of you? Mark: Well we also had Pearlman with us too. Erik: Filming. Mark: He was filming, yeah. Erik: And, you gotta tell the story about the White Rim. So you biked the White Rim, I think you were on one off mountain bikes? Mark: [00:34:30] Yep. Erik: Or some kind of devices, hand crank mountain bikes. And it was so sandy, the story I heard, you had to get out and you had to pretty much pull yourself on your arms and pull your chair, did you pull the other guys chairs too? Or were the other guys' bikes... Mark: It was an epic, groveling adventure. Seems like everything I do turns into that. Jeff: Yeah. [crosstalk 00:34:50] Mark: If you're not suffering, you're not having a good time. That's kind of how it is out there. We had these one off mountain bikes and [00:35:00] we actually did a Jeep tour to kind of check it out a couple years prior. We did have it a little easier, we didn't carry all our water and food with us, we had a swag wagon out there. Suburban, follow the four paraplegics. Myself, Bob Vogel, and Steve Ackerman. We rode this, 52 miles is the full circumnav of the White Rim. There was times, [00:35:30] yeah, it was an interesting experience out there because some of these washes were like moon dust. We couldn't get our bikes through it. So I had a pair of rock chaps with me and I threw the rock chaps on and did some crawling. Had an 11 mil static rope and dragged the guys behind me. Did a few epic things like that. Jeff: I mean, If I'm riding my mountain bike and I come up on that scene in the middle of the White Rim, who knows what to make of that? Mark: [00:36:00] You can walk man, so best thing to do is just walk your bike. Jeff: Like, "You guys are good right?" and they'll be like "Yep, we're good man." Erik: Leave us alone. Jeff: Leave us alone. Mark: Don't touch me. Jeff: There's nothing to see here. Yeah. Erik: Yeah. Jeff: Wow, that's rad. Mark: And then recently, just a couple of years ago... in the winter we had a drought in California and Tahoe, so I circumnaved Lake Tahoe in a kayak in winter. And that was a really amazing adventure. It was 72 [00:36:30] miles, two nights of camping. But the cool thing was, and it was cool at night, it was really cold at night. There was no power boats. In the winter you don't have any power boats on Lake Tahoe, it was kind of like being out there in the 1800s. Seeing bald eagles, none of the tourists were on the water, it was really a fantastic trip. Dave: So Mark, you are someone who really embodies the spirit of No Barriers and you helped [00:37:00] start the organization. So tell us, all these adventures, all these things you've done to challenge what's possible, what people think is possible. Why No Barriers? Tell us that story. Mark: You know, No Barriers... I did a movie called No Barriers, and I got a poster out called No Barriers. It was a word that really meant a lot to me. My wife and I, we were down in San Francisco at a fundraiser... in those days it was called Yosemite Fund, now it's called Yosemite [00:37:30] Conservancy. We were at this dinner, and I met this kind of wild old character named Jim Goldsmith. And Jim came up to me, knew who I was... we started talking. He had a cabin in the subdivision I live in called Tahoe Dawner. So Jim and I, and Carol, and his wife Connie would get together, we had a couple of dinners together. And then Jim started talking about the Dolomites, and his [00:38:00] son-in-law and daughter. And he said, "Man, it would be really neat to kind of do something for disabled people and able bodied people if we did something in the Dolomites." And I go, "Man, I know a couple of guys who I've done some stuff with, a guy named Hugh Herr, double amputee who's done some rock climbing with him, and Erik Weihenmayer." This was probably after your Everest... Erik: Yeah, after. Mark: This was after your Everest climb. And I said "Hey, these [00:38:30] guys..." we did a climb out in Moab Utah, the three of us, it was kind of gimp helping gimp, it was this real magical event out there. Which was really cool... Erik: Climbing the Fisher Tower. Mark: Yeah. The Fisher Tower. Ancient Ark. Erik: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Mark: And it was this really fantastic climb. I'd like to get these two guys involved with what we're talking about. SO I called Erik, I called Hugh, and we ended up putting our first [00:39:00] little... in those days, it was more of a festival, we called it, instead of a summit. We did it in the Dolomites. It was a very obscure little place up in the mountains, this real beautiful location, but nothing was really accessible. The hotels weren't that accessible, everything was kind of difficult to put this together. But it was this real magical place in the mountains... Erik: I remember the chair operators didn't even know how to get people with disabilities on the chairs. Mark: They didn't have [00:39:30] an idea. They didn't... yeah. Erik: On the ski lifts. Thank you. Yeah. Mark: They weren't doing adaptive skiing in those days in that little village. It was actually the home of the 1956 Olympics. SO that was kind of my envision was to start this, and who knew it was gonna get into what it is today. It's just amazing what you guys have done, and all the different things No Barriers has to offer people. Erik: What do you think about when you think about the evolution? You had this little germ [00:40:00] of an idea to go to this town and start talking about accessibility and innovation, and some of your lessons about how you've broken through barriers, or how the three of us had broken through barriers. And now, when you look at it today... Mark: [sighs] It's kind of mind boggling how it's grown so big and how many different people it affects, it's not just the disabled community, it's able bodied community bringing everyone together. Trying new experiences. The youth programs [00:40:30] that you guys have been doing is tremendous over the years. Soldiers to the summit. We're having all these guys coming back doing ten tours, they're not adjusting back into society very well, and taking them out into the outdoors with Jeff and different mountain guides, it just changes their lives. Brings them more back into a reality where they can really kind of adjust back into society. And then the summit is just... I love [00:41:00] coming to the summits. I've been to every one now, I haven't missed one since the beginning. It's gonna be fantastic in New York, I'm really looking forward to that. Erik: And you bring your climbing wall, your portable climbing wall. Mark: I'll have... Erik: Almost to every summit. So that's your mission now, right? To go around and use your climbing wall as a No Barriers tool to help people break through barriers. Tell us about that. Mark: Absolutely. Climbing has been such a big part of my life, that I just like to introduce different [00:41:30] people to the sport. A lot of times, somebody that's... we don't say electric chair, electric chair is something you die in. Power chair. A power chair takes you from point A to point B. A power chair user, a lot of times doesn't have all the... there's not as many things out there for a power chair user to participate in. Climbing on my wall, they can. We have these harnessing systems [00:42:00] that support your core. It's almost like a Bosen's chair, pulley system. If you have the desire to get on the climbing wall, we can facilitate that. We don't turn anybody away. We've had people that weigh 500 pounds on my wall before. Very obese wheelchair users... it doesn't matter. I had a gentleman that had spina bifida and he was unfortunately caught up in the American society of drinking a lot of soda, [00:42:30] and became really big. We got him on the wall, it was really difficult for him. We would talk to him and he wouldn't really look at you eye to eye as we were talking. I saw him a year later, he dropped 150 pounds, quit the soda, got into a training, cut his hair in a mohawk, and it just changed his life. Got out of the power chair and was in a manual chair. So climbing was kind of the responsibility of really changing this guys life, and now I see [00:43:00] him down in Los Angeles. I probably take the wall to Southern California maybe seven or eight times a year, San Francisco, Bay Area. I sort of have different groups hire me year after year, once they experience the wall they really want to have it be part of their event. We bring in, mini El Cap I call it, and we get people on it and we have a great time. Erik: And you're traveling around with your wall, full time. People bring you in to create this experience for their [00:43:30] rehab hospital or organization or team, right? Mark: Exactly. All those venues... I do adaptive climbing seminars. So a gym might call me and wanna know, "how do we get an adaptive climbing program going?" So I do that. And a lot of times I'll do not only a seminar on adaptive climbing, but then maybe that evening do a show and tell about adventure sports and where adventure sports have taken the disabled in the last 35 [00:44:00] years. Erik: And you are like Kleenex now, because... you talk about the pulley system, it's not a pulley system, pull up system, a lot of people say, "Oh yeah, Mark Wellman system." Mark: Yeah, it's... yeah it's kind of getting that way. Jeff: You're like Beyonce now. Mark: I'm like Beyonce. It's just kind of neat that my passions over the years... everybody should have a passion. And my passion has always been [00:44:30] to be out camping, doing something in the outdoors, coming up with new ideas, new technologies... and some of these technologies are more like a backyard technology. It's not that fancy. Sometimes some of the most simplest things can change something. Like mountain bike tires on a wheelchair can change a chairs getting into the back country tremendously. Mounting a pull up bar in a sender can allow a paraplegic [00:45:00] to do 7000 pull ups in eight days to go up El Cap. Just simple little technologies can really change peoples' lives, and you can take that backyard technology, garage technology, put something together that works for you that can help a whole bunch of people. Dave: I'd like to go back to that... You've told us a story, sort of the arc of your life, and when I look at you Mark and think about what you've accomplished I think "God, this is incredible. [00:45:30] This is an incredible human being that very few people who had what happened to you would ever have chosen the path that you have chosen." And I think, when I think about our No Barriers community, every so often you get folks who will say "Yeah, that's Mark Wellman but that couldn't have been me. You're putting someone in front of me that's so incredible, how could I possibly do this?" Erik: Yeah, you're de motivational. Mark: Right, right. I know, I get it. Dave: I'd love to hear, what do you think we can... 'cause this is what we do at No Barriers. We... If you're [00:46:00] listening to this, it's not like we take everyone up mountains, but we try to remind them about something in their spiri t... Mark: Yeah. Dave: ...that teaches them anything is possible. So talk to us a little bit about, Mark, how did you get to that point? Is it just sort of who you were from the beginning, was it an evolution? It just seems like everything you encountered, you are like, "I can do more." Mark: I think it's really important for people to get out of their comfort zone. Nowadays, it's so easy for young people to get... they get into gaming. And they [00:46:30] just, you know... it's stagnant. You're not getting out of your comfort zone. And the outdoors has a way of getting you out of your comfort zone. And you can make it safe... you don't need to think about what I do, it's more about finding, maybe getting some different experiences. And that's what's so cool about the summit. You have all these different activities going on where you just get a little taste of it. And hopefully [00:47:00] that little taste will inspire your imagination to want to try it again. And that's where I think it's really important if you're facilitating skiing or climbing, or whatever you're facilitating, you have to make sure that these people, their first experience is a good one. If they don't have a good experience, most likely they're not gonna go back to it. And, it's really important that the very first time... One of our board members, Sasha. [00:47:30] He was an academia guy, a professor. He came to the No Barriers event in Squaw Valley, the first one. Never had tried climbing before, and we took him to Donner Summit and got him up on this road cut climb that's 80 feet with big exposure, and it changed the guys life. It was something he was real nervous about, but it was getting him out of his comfort zone, and him [00:48:00] really having, you know... it was exciting for him, it was thrilling, it was challenging not only physically but mentally challenging at the same time. All those things combined. Kind of changed his life. And he became a board member of No Barriers because of that. Dave: Yeah. Mark: And there's stories like that all the time. Or Mandy, I remember her... wonderful singer. She got on my wall, it was 25 feet, and she [00:48:30] was really scared. It was a really scary moment for her where she had this big fear of heights. It wasn't like she was on a 1000 foot rope, she was on a 24 foot wall. But she might have well have been. Jeff: Relative for her. Mark: Could have been a 1000 foot climb. But she made it through. And came down... I got a guy that helps me, Wes, he's a search and rescue guy, kind of a big guy. He's just magical with [00:49:00] people, and really helped her a lot. So, you have all these different experiences... Erik: And I think that experience, by the way, gave her the courage to go out and do something completely non-climbing related, which was to write music and to go on to America's Got Talent, and... Mark: Exactly. Erik: Get into the finals, and now skyrocket into stardom. Mark: To fame. Absolutely. Making a better quality life for herself. [00:49:30] A lot of times when you say, somebody that's a wheelchair user... what is it, like 90 percent of the people in wheelchairs don't have jobs. And it's always kind of bummed me out, I'm thinking, "Wow." Why would you wanna be caught in a system like with Social Security and be basically poor your whole life, because "Oh I have Medicare, I have my Social Security disability," So you're trying to live on six to eight hundred dollars a month. And you're caught [00:50:00] in this kind of vicious circle. You've got to get away from that somehow, and get into the workforce, be productive. You're gonna feel better, you're gonna be a more productive citizen in this country, and you're not gonna be wrapped up in this vicious circle of never getting ahead and always having the government thumb you down, so to speak. Erik: Last question for [00:50:30] you from my end, this is Erik, and I wanna know, I've made it kind of clear that I look up to you. Tell me, who are the people that you look up to? Tell us about that guy Larry, tell us about some people who influenced your life. Mark: Oh man. There's been a lot for sure. There was a guy named... actually I think you're thinking of a guy named Mark Sutherland. When I first got hurt, Mark was a quadriplegic ten [00:51:00] years post to my injury. And he was back in the hospital. He had a bone spur, the spur was touching his spinal cord, and he was losing some of his action. Some quadriplegic can move their arms and they can push manual chairs, and he was one of those. But he was losing some of his arm strength, so he was in the hospital, and my room was next to his. We would talk at night. 'Cause I was really bummed out when I was first injured. To me, being a paraplegic was a fate [00:51:30] worse than death. I was on the sixth floor, if I could have crawled over to the window and jumped out I would have cause that's how bad I felt. I was just thinking, "Not having the use of my legs, I'm not gonna ski again, I'm not gonna climb." I was 22, I was just like, "Why didn't the mountain just take me." Those were the kind of thoughts I was having. But then I would go into this guys room, Mark Sutherland, and he would talk about, "Oh I had this milk truck that I converted, and I had a stool. One time I was driving it with my hand controls [00:52:00] and I fell off the stool, and I was on the ground and I had to throw my hand on the brake to stop it so I didn't kill anybody." Jeff: And you were like, "That's the greatest story ever." Mark: Yeah. I wanna do that. So I was just hearing this stuff from this guy, and he was talking about girlfriends, and how he was running around doing this and doing that, and I'm going, "Man, this guy has a life." And it was really inspiring to be... so where I was really depressed and laying in the hospital bed, and couldn't feel [00:52:30] my lower extremities, and "What's a catheter?" And I'm just like, "Man, this is horrible, what did I get myself into." And this guy was really upbeat and uplifting... Jeff: Showed you it wasn't a death sentence. Mark: Yeah. Showed me it wasn't a death sentence, and let's get on with life, dude. And it was like, boom. That just changed me. Then we went into rehab together, we were more in a hospital setting and then we both went into our physical rehab. That's [00:53:00] when it just started clicking for me, and that was it. Dave: Well, just to wrap up this excellent conversation that we're having about the history of No Barriers and all that you've done as well just individually, you've seen No Barriers be this thing that started in the Dolomites in 2003, we're 15 years into this. What's your dream for what it becomes? Mark: Wow. I would just consider it to be... I'd like to see maybe a couple summits a year, possible. [00:53:30] More, smaller clinics would be really cool too. I think you guys are really on a good, good path. But maybe some smaller events too. Just keep growing it. Keep doing more of these kinds of things. More technology. Bringing in more people, better speakers. Better people that are... or people that are doing more things that inspire others that give the ideas [00:54:00] to do more things. I'm amazed in 15 years where it's come to. Who knows where it's gonna go. Another 15 years from now, man this could be a huge, huge organization that could affect a lot of people and bring a lot of people together. This whole family, bringing the tribe together. It's always fun at the summits, and seeing people I haven't seen for a year, [00:54:30] spending time with them. I love getting people out climbing, so that's my passion. Erik: What if people want to learn how to get in touch with you, how to work with you, how to bring your wall to their organization? Mark: Yeah. Google Mark Wellman or just go to my website, No Limits Tahoe dot com. Give me a call. Erik: Although they won't talk to you, 'cause you're never home. You're always out [crosstalk 00:54:55] or something. Dave: Always on the road, right. Mark: Well, no, yeah I'm easy to get a hold of. Talk to my wife, Carol, [00:55:00] and I can get back to you. Erik: Right. Mark: Send me an email. I'm better on the phone, I don't like to email tons. Love to talk to you, if you have ideas lets talk about, lets see you at the summit. Lets get out and enjoy life. Erik: Cool. Well thank you so much Mark. Jeff: Listen Mark, I know you well enough to know you don't need to hear what I'm about to tell you, but, I think it's important for you and the listeners to know [00:55:30] in conversations like this, it becomes so clear how you are sort of the upside down pyramid. And you're the point on the upside down pyramid. And it all sort of funnels up from you, really. And I know there's others, but you're the man. And I know it's important for you, it is important for me to know that you know how many thousands of lives you've impacted. Erik: Tens of thousands. Jeff: Thousands of lives dude. You have been the kick starter [00:56:00] and the imputes. And you're just one of the most wonderful pioneers. I know you know it, but you need to hear it more, because you're the man. Mark: I appreciate it man, it's humbling. And, to take a passion that I had and a dream... and like I said, just simple adaptations, a pull up bar on a jumar. Man, how that changed other people to go climb up El Cap, or do Castleton, or whatever [00:56:30] mountain you want to get up, it's been a pretty cool experience. It's been fun to work with other companies. We're making more adaptive climbing equipment now. It's really kind of evolved from just handmade rock chaps to a real sophisticated pair of rock chaps that allows people to get out there and do a lot of cool stuff. Dave: Well it's been an honor to have you here Mark, I know many of our listeners are part of that No Barriers tribe. Many of them will know you, but a [00:57:00] lot of them won't. The movement has grown so big that it's well beyond you. But per what Jeff was saying, it's so important I think for the people of our community to know where this began. Mark: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Dave: And you are the point that Jeff mentioned where it began, and so, thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate having you. Mark: My pleasure. Erik: What did you guys take away from that? Might take us a while. Dave: Yeah. Exactly. Jeff: Might be a lengthy debrief on that one. Dave: I guess for me, as someone who's helping to build [00:57:30] this movement, like I was ending with there, just to remember the roots of where No Barriers began which is individuals coming together in small communities around creative ideas to do stuff that people didn't think was possible. And as we start to move to tens of thousands, maybe millions over the next ten years of people that we impact, that there's something in that special sauce that's still about the [00:58:00] individuals getting together having a fun, creative idea and going out and pushing their comfort zone. Erik: Yeah. I think that, No Barriers recipe is sort of hidden right in the story of El Capitan, which is... Mark's a smart guy, but he's not a scientist or anything, he's not Hugh Herr, who's inventing stuff where you go, "I could never do that." What he said is a pull up bar and a jumar. These are commercially available things. I think he had to adapt a few things, but [00:58:30] not all that crazy technology. Pretty simple. You combine that series, that innovation with the human spirit and a great friend or great support system, a great rope team, you do this amazing thing that opens up the door for a lot of people. It's a pretty simple recipe. Dave: It is. Jeff: All the big things that have happened with regards to our species all started with this small [00:59:00] germination of somebody sitting in their theoretical garage just being like, "How do I do this? Hmm?" And head scratch, and start piecing these things together, and then, boom, the movement begins. I think Mark embodies that, and what a great cornerstone for this organization. Dave: Well, and the movement continues. So if you're sitting there listening saying, "I wanna be a part of this organization, I wanna be a [00:59:30] part of No Barriers," please go to our website, No Barriers USA dot org. You can join us at the summit that Mark mentioned that's coming up in October in New York. There are many more ways you can join us but please, No Barriers USA dot org is our website. You can also share our podcast with your friends and colleagues and families, and follow us on our Facebook page. Thank you so much for listening. Erik: Live No Barriers. Dave: Thanks.

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Palliative Care in the Global Setting Summary

Journal of Oncology Practice Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2018 27:03

Dr. Jim Cleary talks with Dr. Pennell about this new resource-stratified guideline, which provides guidance to clinicians and policymakers on implementing palliative care in resource-constrained settings. Welcome back, everyone, to the ASCO Journal of Oncology Practice podcast. This is Dr. Nate Pennell, medical oncologist at the Cleveland Clinic and consultant editor for the JOP. Now over the last decade or so, there has been a major change in our approach to the care of advanced cancer patients with the recognition of the importance of palliative care. There have been a number of trials now showing that integrating palliative care into cancer patients' care can make a major impact on their quality of life and possibly even their survival. And as a result, the involvement of palliative medicine has become part of treatment guidelines. However, much like cutting edge biomarker testing or expensive drugs, specialist-driven palliative care also takes a fair amount of resources that are not available everywhere. So joining me today to talk about this is Dr. Jim Cleary, who just moved from the University of Wisconsin Carbone Cancer Center, where he started the palliative care program in 1996 and for the last seven years, has led the Pain and Policy Studies Group, a WHO collaborating center for pain policy and palliative care. He's now been recruited to the Indiana University School of Medicine in Indianapolis, where he'll be the professor of medicine and Walther's senior chair in support of oncology and director of the supportive oncology program at the IU Simon Cancer Center. He's going to focus on building a program focusing on global supportive care and palliative care, which makes him the perfect person today for us to talk to about the recommendations of an expert panel that's going to be published this month in the JOP titled, Palliative Care in the Global Setting ASCO Resource-Stratified Practice Guideline Summary. Jim, thanks so much for joining us. Why, thank you very much for having me-- a real honor. So can you start out a little bit by telling us about the progression of the role of palliative care in oncology, and what has led to the impetus for forming the panel that you were a part of? So if we look back historically to the introduction of palliative care throughout medicine, it's actually been primarily in cancer care. If we go back to the original WHO guidelines in the 80s, it was all focused on cancer patients. And it's interesting if one looks at the very definition of palliative care from the word go, they said all the principles of palliative care can be applied upstream, earlier in the course of patients' illnesses from the-- even from the 80s. But as we look at it historically, and particularly in the US, with the introduction of the Hospice Benefit, palliative care really became brink of death care. So that you didn't get hospice or pallative care involved until someone was actively dying. So we were missing out on that very principle of-- let's address all the issues, the skills that palliative care provides early on. Let's address these earlier on in the course of people's illness, particularly when it comes to people with advanced disease. And it doesn't just have to be advanced disease to be including the skill set. So people who are getting chemotherapy, some may support it or call it supportive oncology, but really, it's the same principle-- supportive oncology, palliative care. It's total person care of patients with cancer and dealing with cancer. So as we look at those, the studies have been coming out saying it improves quality of life. You mentioned the survival benefit that's been suggested or hypothesized. And while that may be there, for me, that's not the primary reason for doing this. It's the right thing to be doing-- to be addressing quality of life. And even trying to get us to move beyond what seems to be that magic mark of survival-- length of survival or time of survival may not be the only important thing. Quality of life is becoming increasingly important as we address many of these issues. ASCO has recognized this, and in 2016, they actually published a paper-- again, a guideline-- the integration of palliative care into standard oncology care. And that was released in 2016, and it was based on what we would call research that was done in maximal resource institutions, largely in the high income countries. The United States, Canada, Western Europe, Australia-- those sorts of countries. What the situation is in the world is that probably 80% of the cancers are now being diagnosed in low and middle income countries. And in those countries, most people are actually being diagnosed with advanced disease. And this comes from the paucity of person power in terms of diagnosis, the lack of surgeons, the remoteness that these people-- where they live. They're really presenting in different ways. So as ASCO looked at this, and they've done this as well with cervical cancer, they said, let's get a guideline that is resource-stratified. So let's look at the issues that low and middle income countries face in getting this integration of palliative care and supportive oncology across the board. And that's what we aim to do in this setting. No, that sounds like a very important intervention. I have a soft spot in my heart for this topic. Because when I was a fellow at Mass General Hospital, that was when Jennifer Temel was running her initial trial of head of care that led to this possible survival benefit, which was just suggested retrospectively, or at least post hoc, in that analysis, but I remember when this was greeted with a lot of skepticism-- that palliative care was that important in cancer care. And of course, now people broadly accept how important it is. So I'm great to see that this is going to be extended outside of just academic centers in the United States. So one of the questions I have for you before we kind of delve into your paper, and this is a conversation I've had with Dr. Temel, as well. Most of the data is not just in maximized resource centers and countries, but also seems to focus on specialists trained in palliative medicine. Do we understand the aspects of palliative medicine, and what leads to quality of life benefits, enough to be able to extract those different pieces out and then extend them out beyond palliative care trained physicians? I don't think we do yet. And we need to do more research on this. And I know that Jennifer currently has a query study that is looking at the role of telemedicine. At about the same time that Jennifer was doing the study in Boston, we actually did a similar study out of the University of Wisconsin, which looked at an internet intervention through CHESS-- Comprehensive Health Enhancement Support System-- and the service was integrating palliative care information, internet support for both patient and caregiver. And we actually found a survival benefit that mirrored this-- the Temel effect-- for people who use the internet system. So I don't think we have a very good start understanding at all. I think Charles von Gunten has equally identified that there is this difference between primary, secondary, and tertiary palliative care. And primary palliative care is what all clinicians should be able to do. In Charles' papers that he's written on this, he's talked about oncologists should have a secondary level of palliative care knowledge and experience and be able to do this. And then really you need the tertiary level, or the specialty team, involved in palliative care for the difficult cases. I'm not convinced, still to this day, that I need to see every cancer patient with advanced disease. What we need to do in palliative care teams is actually fill in the holes when the current treating oncology team is not able to provide them. And if you have an oncologist who is excellently trained in symptom management, communication-- together with good nurses and social workers, pastoral care, spiritual care, who can come in and help with this-- the role of the palliative care physician may actually go on the palliative care team. Maybe a little moot in most settings, but really, it's filling in the holes and coming in and making sure that patients are getting the appropriate level of care. That appropriate level of care really does become tough in resource poor-- resource challenged settings. And that's probably true even in the United States, as well as in low and middle income countries. If the only health care center within 100 miles is actually with a primary health worker with minimal training, how do you get appropriate oncology care, let alone an appropriate palliative care integrated into that? And I think one of the challenges that some of our panelists from low and middle income countries had was, well, how do you actually define good cancer care in our country? And that continues to be a country many people-- and I'll come back to remind listeners that hepatocellular cancer is actually one of the most common cancers in the world. And many of these people who have, and end up dying of, hepatocellular cancer never actually see an oncologist. Now I agree that that makes sense in so many places-- just even in our own country here, patients struggle to reach specialist oncology care. And so I think the idea of Jennifer's, of trying to be able to do palliative medicine consults with telemedicine, is certainly an interesting potential solution for that. So let's just dig into the panel's recommendations here, shall we? The guidelines are divided into different sections. And each section is very nicely broken down into what you term as basic, limited, enhanced, and maximal sections, depending on the available resources. So maybe we could go through them one at a time, and you can talk a little bit about them. So I think the first section is called, "Palliative Care Models." Can you talk a little bit about that? So what we were doing with the palliative care model with the [? gain, ?] if you think about some of these basic, limited, enhanced, and maximal, we were saying, hey, basic is the primary health care center which I mentioned. It may be a community health worker, or a clinical officer as they are commonly called. It may not be a physician. There may be a nurse, but they may not even be a nurse in some of those settings. So the recommendation is that we should be training and addressing these people to actually even start thinking about palliative care needs in this setting. So it's saying throughout the whole system, we need to be building in palliative care needs. Particularly in advanced cancer, one of the issues that comes up significantly, and is under Item 7, is ensuring that we have access to opioids for pain relief. And this becomes very difficult if you're talking about a rural community-- no one with a physician license or a nurse license. How do we actually get appropriate pain relief to these people, who may never see an oncologist, as they're dealing with advanced cancer needs? So we've gone through and actually looking at the strength of evidence saying, yes, this has to be integrated throughout the whole health care system. And there are evidence from different models as we look at places like Kenya and Malawi as they've introduced palliative care throughout these settings. It's quite possible. Uganda actually has nurses out in many of the districts in Uganda, who are now licensed because of their special training, to actually dispense morphine. And that's a real change. We go to other countries, which have a shortage of physicians interested in palliative care and doing this, and there are physician groups who actually say, there's no way nurses are ever going to be able to do that. Professional protectivism, if you want to look at it-- boundary protecting. No right answers, but I think these need to be considered. And we need to think outside the box with the models of care that we're providing to ensure the appropriate people are getting them. I visited a hospital in Zambia-- the Children's Hospital in Lusaka-- where each child with leukemia had a small bottle of morphine on the top of their locker, which the parents were administering to the children for appropriate pain relief because of their leukemia. Really quite incredible to watch this going on in a resource poor setting, and this was entrusted to the parents to do with appropriate education. Because they're the ones who are most concerned and available to do this sort of work. I've actually been to hospitals in other parts of Africa where the drug cupboard has actually been empty and the lock broken, and it takes 15 to 20 minutes to go to central pharmacy to actually get some morphine. So when someone is complaining of pain, that's not a good situation. So we need to make sure that all of these things actually fall into place and develop good care models. And that's really what recommendation number one does. Recommendation number two goes to look and talks about timing. And this comes up as a critical-- when should you get palliative care needs addressed? And as I said with the primary, secondary, and tertiary, really, they should be addressed from the point of diagnosis, if not even before diagnosis if you suspect someone has advanced disease. And so you're really saying, hey, let's consider this from the word go with everyone in the course of the illness-- a palliative care team, not just the needs of the patient. But a team, in the basic and limited settings, should probably get involved with overwhelming symptoms, particularly metastatic disease. And if a decision not to go for life prolonging therapy is made, that's when I think we need to be engaging teams at that stage. And really, it's coming in with the maximal. And if you've got the appropriate resources, it's saying everyone. And this comes from the 2016 guidelines as well. We should have this integration early in the diagnosis and ideally within eight weeks of diagnosis. The palliative care team should actually be involved at that stage. Oh, that makes perfect sense. I certainly remember when this idea of early palliative care started coming out. And it's so much easier for the patients when they are plugged in and connected with the palliative medicine team earlier in their disease, rather than trying to call them in late. And it's much more jarring and disturbing to them, and they don't get nearly as much of the benefit of the care, I think, at that point. And often pain control is a way I get involved early on. Other symptom management-- how can we help you through chemotherapy? Some of the issues go on. It does actually open up opportunities. Yes, I can maybe spend some more time there than the oncologist. Many nurse practitioners-- advanced practice nurses-- are actually doing this on their own. But it's coming in and helping the oncologist. It's building up that team. And as the disease transitions, that jarring nature of all this-- this guy who's now coming to meet you because I've run out of options. No, you're part of the team from the word go and will continue to stay involved. Yeah, absolutely. I think that has been my experience, that that makes the best sense. So the third section of the guideline addresses the workforce knowledge and skills. And how does that vary from the various resource levels. So this comes up, the resource levels and if you even go back to the WHO definitions of palliative care, we use the term interdisciplinary. It's very hard to be interdisciplinary when you're a single person. Although I often joke that Dame Cecily Saunders, who started the modern hospice movement, was trained as a nurse, a social worker, and a physician. So she could have a multidisciplinary team all by herself. So it's the basic level. If you're a single clinical officer, that may be very difficult. A single nurse-- that interdisciplinary team is really something that may be hard to come by. But having those basic skills is something that we need to teach. But as we move up into the limited or district level facilities, working on building teams together, and teams in some cultures-- and particularly with the nurse-physician relationship not being as strong as I think we see in most places in the United States, Europe, and Australia and New Zealand-- often these are real issues of hierarchy between the physicians and nurses. But we need to be ensuring that they do function as a team to maintain and provide the best level of care. So that's one of the things that we're looking at, recognizing that we are a team that does this. And that team continues to grow, particularly, we hope, with regional facilities or the enhanced level with the introduction of a counselor into that level. Again, if you look at the resource poor areas when you start talking counselors, one statistic I've heard is that there are three psychiatrists for the Horn of Africa, which is Ethiopia, Somalia, and those areas. And you think of only three. So the ability to train-- or having trained counselors around-- is something that is not common. So it's really integrating across the board, particularly as we move up to higher levels-- regional facilities and then to maximal, national cancer centers-- making sure that we have appropriately trained social workers and counselors available to join this team. So addressing all of the members of the team-- you know, the nursing roles, the spiritual care, the counseling-- and then just the recognition that in some places it may end up being the caregiver, or the physician, or whoever they are dealing with, that has to assume many of these roles, I think, is a nice recognition. Ideally, you'd love to have a large interdisciplinary team. But it's having the available resource, rather than who does it, that is important. Exactly right, and in many cases, it may actually be the nurse who is doing most of this work. And we even find that in our own situations here, it's often the nurses giving chemotherapy who may be doing a lot of the counseling with patients while they're administering the chemotherapy. I even make the comment to our own folks in in-patients, it may actually be the person who's working on housekeeping who is actually doing a lot of interaction and hearing of the needs of the patient, just because they feel comfortable talking to them, whereas they don't share that with others. So we don't exclude any member of this team across the board. That's really interesting. I don't know if you read Bloom County, the comic strip, but there is a storyline over the last couple of years of a sick child in the hospital. And it's the maintenance man who ends up providing most of the support to the child in this family and it's a really touching storyline. It reminds me of that a little bit. So I hope that's not because we weren't providing it, which is often something that can happen. But I think it reflects some of the comfort that people do have in dealing with like people. White coat syndrome, I think, applies as much to adults as it does to children. We need to look at those issues, that talking to that man-- that person in the white coat who stands at the end of the bed with 15 other people. That's not really a situation where you can share your inner thoughts and feelings. No, I think that's true. And then you touched on this a little bit earlier, but the seventh and certainly a very critical component of this, is the availability of opioids to help deal with pain. I guess it hadn't really occurred to me that this was a major problem, because drugs like morphine should be relatively inexpensive. But this is I'm guessing a major issue throughout the world. So 80% of the world's population lack access to appropriate pain control. And it's even made worse by the current dilemmas that we're facing, the unbalanced situation that we have in the United States with the current heroin and fentanyl crises. And I say that, because I think we've moved somewhat beyond most of the deaths being caused by prescription opioids. There's increasing evidence that people in the United States are getting first access through heroin and illicit fentanyl. So that these people are lacking access to the basic essential pain medicines, both postoperatively and as they deal with advanced cancer. And so we're even seeing some of that now reported in the United States, that people are actually being denied access to opioids, because of shortages in this country, as they deal with cancer. So it's a critical issue. We need to make sure these are all available. We saw even back in the 90s-- we saw some pharmaceutical companies in China saying, you guys don't need an immediate release morphine. Just use sustained release morphine. The reality is that immediate release morphine, even a morphine solution, together with injectable morphine, is something that should be available at the most basic settings for pain control of cancer patients. And then we can move up oral morphine together with sustained release, if you need to, in different forms. The costs can change. We see some countries in the world with fentanyl patches as the primary medicine used. But the cost of these is dramatically much greater than, in fact, it is for immediate release morphine. People say that levels are steadier, it's better pain control, and things with fentanyl patches, but the evidence doesn't necessarily support that overall. And so we will come back to the gold standard being very much based on oral morphine and making sure that's available in different formulations. And I will stress while this guideline was for adults, one of the advantages of a morphine solution does allow you to titrate and dilute the morphine appropriately for children across the board. You can't do that necessarily with tablets. So I think there are absolutely access to medicines-- and not just the opioids, but particularly the opioids-- is something that's being addressed with a number of levels and making sure that the current situation in the United States doesn't come back and not only rebound here for cancer patients, but really impact cancer patients around the world. Yeah, that's certainly a major topic in the United States, and I'm sure that's true elsewhere, as well. Well, so that brings me to my next question, which is-- while these recommendations make wonderful sense, and in many ways it's kind of reassuring. Because in some places when I talk about palliative care, and they say, well, you know, we don't really have access to specialist palliative care, a lot of this can be done just about anywhere as long as there are recognized the aspects of palliative medicine that are available and necessary. So what are the next steps to this? So the guideline is going to be published. How is ASCO going to work to try to make some of this more available? So I think it reflects the impact of ASCO around the world. ASCO is-- while it's the American Society of Clinical Oncology, it actually has very, very real impact. We're starting to see research take place. So the African Palliative Care Association is already beginning to use a palliative care outcomes scale, together with King's College in London to bring about this. So it's actually-- we're seeing a push. I think we're going to see some of the QOPI measures come out and be part of this international work. So for instance, as you mentioned, getting chemotherapy in the last two weeks of life is a negative QOPI indices. Getting people into hospice, we're seeing as a positive as we move forward. So I think that we're going to see this overall from ASCO coming out and saying, this is absolutely critical. ASCO is a player on the international scene. Works with a number of international organizations-- the NCI, Global Health Institute, the NCCN, and others are looking at the-- the Breast Health, Global Initiative. So this is all moving forward together with the World Health Organization, the Union for International Cancer Control, UICC. Many people are targeting this, and I think it's actually going to be the overall recognition of the importance of this. Many people have followed for years, saying we will do what ASCO does. ASCO is now saying, this is important. And I think we're going to see this change in low and middle income countries because of ASCO's leadership, and that's going to be critical. Well, I certainly hope that's the case. Because this really does sound like an incredibly important initiative. So Jim, do you have any take home points you'd like to give to our listeners as we wrap up the podcast? So take home points are to realize, within your own practice, that palliative care is important to integrate. But I think at this stage, it's an awareness of the importance of palliative care in cancer care around the world. We don't often think of that outside of our own settings. But it's absolutely important. Become involved in advocacy as you move forward. And promote this, both regionally within the United States, and for those listeners who are listening outside of the United States, work with your oncology organizations to say, what are we doing with palliative care and cancer care across the board? And I think it's those sorts of things where we're actually going to be seeing those changes as we move forward. Well, Jim, thank you so much for joining me today on this podcast. I'm sure our listeners are really going to appreciate this. Thank you very much, Nate. And I also want to thank the listeners who joined us for the podcast. The full text of the paper is available at ASCOpubs.org/journal/JOP published online in July of 2018. This is Dr. Nate Pennell for the Journal of Oncology Practice signing off.

1:6 Embracing Lodi Wines, Unique Grapes and Ancient Vines

What We're Tasting

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2018 24:09

In this episode Jameson speaks with Wine Enthusiast contributing editor Jim Gordon about how Zinfandel reigns supreme in the eyes of many, but Lodi wines are astonishingly diverse. Wines Discussed: @4:48 Klinker Brick 2017 Albariño (Lodi) @8:08 Scotto Family Cellars 2017 Dry Sangiovese Rosé (Lodi) @14:18 Jessie's Grove 2015 Ancient Vine Carignane (Lodi) Transcript: Jameson Fink: Welcome to Wine Enthusiast's What We're Tasting podcast. I'm your host, Jameson Fink. Join me as we discuss three fantastic wines and why each one belongs in your glass. This episode, we're looking at the wines of Lodi, with wine enthusiast contributing editor, Jim Gordon, who covers and reviews wines from the region. What We're Tasting is sponsored by Vivino. With the largest online inventory, Vivino finds the right wine every time, including lots from Lodi. Download Vivino to discover and buy your favorites, and stock up at Vivino.com/wineenthusiast. So while I was doing some reading on Lodi, doing a little reading up, a little research, a little due diligence, I came across this phrase, and this is the phrase: Something subversive is afoot in the vineyards of Lodi, California. When I read that, the first thing I thought about was actually Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, the part where they say, "Something strange is afoot at the Circle K." But this is not about Bill and Ted. We're here to talk about wine in Lodi, and actually, my guest Jim wrote that line, not about Bill and Ted, but about Lodi, and I think it was really great because a lot of people still consider Lodi ... they look through the lens of bulk wines, mass produced wines, nothing but jammy Zinfandels, etc. etc. But that's really ... I mean, it's part of the story, of course, but what's really exciting about Lodi is what's going on there with what we might call underdog grapes, and people doing really interesting and exciting things. So, I'm excited to have Jim here to talk about Lodi and get to know it a little better, and sort of that hidden, subversive, underdog Lodi that's happening right now. So Jim, welcome to the show. Jim Gordon: Thank you, Jameson. Happy to be here. Jameson Fink: And you know, when I was ... I was in Lodi two years ago, and that was my first time there, and I was at a wine reception for the wine blogger's conference. It was 100 degrees there, not surprising, it's pretty hot there, and I was seeking out well-chilled white wines. And I was really impressed with ... I had a Grenache Blanc and a Vermentino there, and I didn't expect to have either of those wines. Maybe I was naïve and I had a lot to learn, that wouldn't be surprising, but I thought it was a really exciting tasting that I discovered all these interesting new white wines. Can you kind of just talk about the breadth and depth of grapes that are being grown there besides the usual suspects? Just give me a few. Start me off with a few to tantalize me. Jim Gordon: Yeah, sure. You know, the region has been known for almost commodity level Cabernet, Merlot, Chardonnay, etc. But, there's Albariño, there's Vermentino as you said, there's Kerner, there's Teroldego, there's Cinsault from 120 year old vines, Carignan. Some of those have been there forever, you know, decades if not a century, but many others have been planted in the last several years to make Lodi a lot more interesting place. Jameson Fink: And why do you think winemakers are attracted to these grapes in Lodi versus Cabernet or Merlot or Chardonnay? What's the appeal in your mind? Jim Gordon: I kind of think they're trying to go 180 degrees from what people think of Lodi. People think of it producing sort of fat, lazy Zinfandels or big Chardonnays that are kind of soft and buttery. I think a lot of them are trying to do something the opposite of that, like crisp or tannic or biting or more vivid, not just a big softy like the mass market ones, but something more artisanal, more interesting, more intellectual in a way. Jameson Fink: Mm-hmm (affirmative). And I guess I want to back up. I don't know if a lot of people even know where Lodi is. It's not far from Sacramento, correct? Jim Gordon: True, it's south of Sacramento, and almost due east of Napa. I live in Napa, and it's an hour and a half drive roughly to Lodi. It's an interesting place. It's in the northern ... basically the northern end of the San Joaquin Valley. It's just on the edge of the Sacramento and San Joaquin River Delta, where it's kind of a bayou area of California, where it's basically at sea level. So, even though it's inland and it does get hot, but it has the water. When you have water and hot land, you have breezes, so it's not as hot as you would think. It's nothing like the southern San Joaquin Valley, more like around Madera or Fresno. This is quite different than the northern part. Jameson Fink: So you mentioned earlier Albariño, and the first wine I wanted to talk about was the Klinker Brick 2017 Albariño, which you gave 89 points to. Can you talk about ... I mean, I know Albariño from Spain mostly. Is the grape similar there in Lodi? Is it producing a similar style of wine, something different, or is it a little bit of both? Jim Gordon: This one is more similar to what you would find in Spain or Portugal I think, than most would be, which is why I liked it. It's refreshing, it's crisp, there's low alcohol, relatively, 12.8%, and that's why I liked it. I think I described it a lot like one would describe some Albariños from the Iberian Peninsula. So I think they purposefully picked the grapes early enough so it didn't get too high in alcohol, too full in body, and they got something that's really refreshing, mouthwatering. Jameson Fink: Yeah, you said it's a great antidote to rich and oaky wines. Jim Gordon: Yeah, perfect. Jameson Fink: Although, I do like rich and oaky wines. I have a soft spot for those. But I am a liberal. I like light, crisp, fresh, rich and oaky, everything in between. Jim Gordon: Yeah, me too. I like some of each. I want crisp and fresh on a hot summer day, and depending on the weather or the food, I like fat and buttery as well. Jameson Fink: Yeah, I'm gonna make this a podcast feature where I complain about the heat, because it's like 85 degrees here today, so that wine sounds really, really good today. I think that's also interesting about the lower alcohol levels. Like you said, it's under 13%, which maybe you probably wouldn't associate with Lodi. I mean, I might think, oh everything's gonna be 15% or 16% or something crazy outrageous, but is there a movement ... I mean, just in general in Lodi or beyond, are you seeing people sort of ... wine drinkers saying, "Hey, I want something lower in alcohol." Or winemakers are saying, "You know what? I'm gonna pick a little earlier and make a wine that's less alcoholic." Jim Gordon: Yes. I think people are demanding it, some people are, and I think winemakers in general in California, which is where I live and where I cover wine for Wine Enthusiast, have backed off on the high alcohol that they were doing five to 10 years ago. Not radically ... so, let's say a typical vintage now is a few tenths of a point lower in alcohol than it used to be, plus, wineries, many of them, like this Albariño there, are producing new wines that are more crisp and lower in body. So, it's partly what they've done to the line of wines, say, well, we've already been making, but also coming up with new varietals or new styles. Jameson Fink: Yeah, absolutely. So, Albariño is definitely a grape ... I mean, we're looking at Lodi, there's a wine region I think in the Columbia Gorge, bordering Washington and Oregon always says we have everything from Albariño to Zinfandel. And I want to talk about another grape that maybe is a little unusual to see in Lodi or really in the United States as much as say like, Italy, and that's Sangiovese. And I thought it was really interesting to see a Rosé made from that. The second wine that I wanted you to talk about was the Scotto Family Cellars' 2017 dry Sangiovese Rosé, which you gave 88 points to. Jim Gordon: It was a really interesting, dry Sangiovese in the Rosé mode. It was relatively low in alcohol for California, 13%, but I liked it because of the sort of grip that Sangiovese gives you. I mean, in the Chianti or super Tuscan blends that have Sangiovese as a red wine, it's known for tannin and acid and kind of a really grippy feel on your palette. And a little touch of that comes along with the Rosé, which I appreciate the ... Rosé is so popular now, and in California, practically every winery is making a Rosé or two, but it hasn't really settled into a style for this valley or that valley. Everybody's using different varieties. Some are darker reds, some are light reds, some are crisp, some are fat like barrel fermented even Rosés. This one I liked because it's crisp, it has a sort of tangy, slightly tannic mouth feel, and to me that's palette cleansing and refreshing. Jameson Fink: Yeah, you talk about a Rosé, I mean, it's just such a ... the category has just exploded and it's still growing. How prevalent is Rosé in Lodi, and is it something that's just happened over the last few years? Or have they been making Rosé in Lodi and we just didn't know about it? Jim Gordon: It's relatively new in terms of today's type of Rosé. I'll bet you in the 70s they were making Rosé in Lodi, but it would have been something quite different. Jameson Fink: Yeah, like a white Zinfandel ... sweet. Jim Gordon: Yeah, exactly. That was the commercial mainstay of Lodi for some years, providing grapes for white Zinfandel. You know, they've had a revolution there in wine making since that period, and I guess this Rosé is just one example of the stuff they're doing now. Jameson Fink: One of the things that you talked about briefly was the abundance of old vines in Lodi, and I think when I visited, that was the thing that blew me away is to see these vines from the 19th century, these grizzled, gnarled ... they're almost like supernatural looking, like hobbit forest or something ... Well, hobbit forest would be friendly, these are a little more mysterious and sinister looking. I think one of the best vineyard visits I've ever had is we went to the Bechthold Vineyard, and to see these old Cinsault vines, really amazing. Can you talk about the old vine heritage in Lodi? Is that in danger? Because I keep hearing that wineries are having to pull out these old vines to plant things that are more profitable. Is there a drive to save these old vines? Jim Gordon: Yeah, it's an interesting issue right now. Lodi does have lots of old vines, you know, hundreds of acres I would say, if not a thousand or more of vines probably older than 50 years. I don't know the numbers offhand, but intermixed with much more recently planted vineyards that are more commercially profitable and make sense for the people. One thing to mention here is that so many of the grape growers in Lodi are family farms, and they're like in their fourth, fifth, or sixth generation. So, their ancestors came in the 1860s or 70s, maybe they tried panning for gold in the Sierra hills and mountains, and then they came back down to Lodi and became farmers. So they're there. They own the same properties in many cases that their families have been farming for generations. So, they have old vines, they've kept some of them, and they've kept them on the places where those vines grew well and produce a good crop and make high quality wine. So, the old vines in many cases have been preserved because they were special. The ones that made so-so wine have probably been ripped up or replanted with other varieties. I know what you're saying too about just the presence of being in the old gnarled vines, and many of the vineyards in Lodi, they train ... the older vines were trained up higher than you would see in most of California or Europe, so they're almost ... they're the size of a person with all these arms hanging out, and they're a little bit scary, but they're a little bit comforting, like the Ent who saved the Hobbit. They're more like that, I think. Jameson Fink: Yeah, well I guess I was on the right path when I said ... when I brought Lord of the Rings and Hobbits into them. It's more of an Ent thing. Jim Gordon: Right, right. Jameson Fink: That's true, they are taller. They're not like those ... I mean, you look at vines [inaudible 00:12:54], and they're really low to the ground. I guess that's also because of the windy conditions there too that they would just sort of ... it's more protected the closer to the ground it is. Jim Gordon: Mm-hmm (affirmative). And it is basically pretty fertile soil in most of the Lodi area. They could grow other crops there, and they have over the years, but now the emphasis has really been on wine grapes for a couple, two or three decades. But regarding the ... maybe a threat to the old vines, there is an economic threat because these families who run the farms need to make enough money to pay the bills and have a decent life, and when you're harvesting old vines, the yields are very low. So on an acre, maybe you get a ton or two tons of grapes, but on the vineyard next to it that's being farmed ... it could be organic or sustainably even, but they can get much higher yields with newer vines and new training methods for the trellis and all that. So you know, they could get eight tons next door, and wineries don't really pay a lot more for the old vine fruit. It's kind of a bargain. That's why I think a lot of smaller, as I said before, artisanal wineries are seeking out these small blocks of old vines from Lodi to make something interesting with. Jameson Fink: Yeah, that's why for the third wine I chose the Jessie's Grove 2015 Ancient Vine Carignane, 90 points, that ... you know, just to focus on one of these wines that the old vine stock that they have. Can you talk about this wine and as far as your feelings on these really old vines, what kinds of wines do they make? Is it just romantic, or do they really give something special in the glass? Jim Gordon: They do, they often do. You can't always taste it, but sometimes you can. I just think it's a purity of fruit. I think smart winemakers doing old vines don't put much new oak on the wine to mess with it. Just let the quality of the fruit come through. What the growers say is just that the old vines are very stable. They have deep roots, they've been growing for years, if there's funny conditions in the weather one year, it doesn't affect them as much as it would a new vine that's shallow rooted, etc. So, they're just steady producers. I just find a purity, a fruit, a focus, kind of a seamlessness in the flavors and the texture, to make a very broad generalization. Jameson Fink: And I know out there there's certainly a lot of old vine Zinfandel there, and I feel like maybe I've painted it with too broad a stroke, but can you talk about ... is Zinfandel changing in Lodi? Is there a diversity of styles and flavors now or do I just have a bad stereotype of monolithic Zinfandel? Jim Gordon: Well, it is changing. I mean, on the one hand, you have Michael David Winery making these fabulous, showy wines out of Zinfandel, Petite Sirah, like the Earthquake Zin and the Seven Deadly Zins, and those have been great. They're dramatic, they use a lot of new oak, but they're really well done. And they've sort of created a category of high quality Lodi Zinfandel, which is helping a lot of growers because they buy from a lot of growers to make Michael David Wines. So, that's really been a good engine for Lodi in terms of making a good livelihood for the growers. But on the other hand, you have the Lodi native Zinfandel project, which is a handful of mostly small production wineries making these really pure, straightforward, no new oak, wild yeast, no water addition, no acid addition really elegant, cool wines. They label them as Lodi native, and they all have a similar label. That's real exciting. And those wines are terrific without being super showy. So, you've got real showy on one end, you've got more elegant and native on the other. Jameson Fink: Yeah, I got to try the native wines when I was out there, the Zinfandels, and yeah, they were definitely an eye opener. I think also the interesting thing was all the winemakers were there and they were talking about when they were being approached for this project and sort of the way they had to work was a way that they weren't used to working, or some of them were kind of candid like, you know, I didn't think this would work, or I think I would need to use this or pick then or use this oak or X, Y, and Z. So, I really appreciated hearing their stories and kind of the candor they had about, hey, this idea ... like everyone wasn't just like, "This sounds great. Let's change the way we're making Zinfandel." So, I thought that was a really interesting bellwether for the region. Jim Gordon: Yeah, I sat with a group of them when I wrote an article for the Enthusiast a couple of years ago about the Lodi native wines, and they were telling the stories. Some of them were not confident they could make a really good wine without intervening more, and they had to pick it earlier than they had ever perhaps, so the alcohol wouldn't be too high, and it was a learning experience for them, kind of learning by doing, and they more or less proved to themselves that they could do it. Jameson Fink: Yeah, and that article about Lodi native Zin and also the underdog grapes of Lodi, those are both at winemag.com too, and they're both well worth reading because they're both a story of Zinfandel and of Lodi and grapes in general that I think people haven't heard of from the region. And I had sort of a ... you know, when I was back in New York, I had sort of a Lodi eye opening moment too. This might come as a shock to you, I was at kind of a hipster, natural wine bar, and- Jim Gordon: No way! Jameson Fink: ... I know, I know. It's crazy ... with a couple friends, and the Turley Cinsault was on the list. I had had it before in Lodi, and it was served chilled ... well, first of all 'cause it was 100 degrees, so it was a really smart move anyway, because I wanted nothing to do with any red wine at all. So it was served cold, pretty cold actually, and I was like, wow, this is really lightweight and kind of almost see through, and really delicious. I was with two of my friends who love drinking lighter style wines, natural wines, you know, and I said, "Hey, let's get a bottle of the Turley Cinsault," and they looked at me like, "What?" 'Cause I think they figured it would be ... whatever, 16% alcohol Zinfandel or something like that. And I said, "Hey, and also bring an ice bucket." We had it chilled, and they were just blown away by it, and that was another thing too, where you think a region is monolithic and it's only about one thing, but when you look a little harder, there's lots of little pockets of people doing really interesting things. Jim Gordon: Yeah, I've had the same experience, similar experience, with the Cinsault. Are you speaking about from the Bechthold Vineyard? Jameson Fink: Exactly. Jim Gordon: Yeah. And a few different wineries use that fruit and make their own Cinsaults, and several of them, they're almost like Pinot Noir. They're elegant, they're kind of ethereal, they're not very dark colored ... even though it's a Roan grape variety. They made something kind of beautiful out of it. Jameson Fink: What do you think about Lodi as far as visiting? You know, you're in Napa. What's the Lodi experience like when you visit? It must be a lot different than obviously what Napa's like. Jim Gordon: It is. There are a lot of visitors now. There are ... I'm making it up ... 35 wineries you can visit, tasting rooms, something like that, and the town of Lodi itself has a cool district with cafés and bars and restaurants. It's big open farmland, these great old farm houses sitting on 400 acres down a long lane surrounded by trees to keep cool in the houses. So, it's a bucolic americana landscape, kind of different from lots of Napa and Sonoma that are very gentrified. It's just a little slower paced and relaxed. Jameson Fink: Yeah, that reminds me, I forgot, sort of my biggest wow wine when I was at the wine blogger's conference there a couple years ago was a Lucas Winery Chardonnay from 2001, and you know, we were at lunch and all these wines were going around. I was like, wow, the 2001 Chardonnay from Lodi, I just thought that was like audacious and bold to pour. But it was great. I just couldn't believe how good it was. To me, that was ... and also, you know, I'm kind of whatever, chasing weird grapes like ... well, not weird, but a little more unusual like Grenache Blanc, and so like Chardonnay ... and it was really good. I mean, it just shows that you kind of ... That's a great reason to visit a wine region is that you kind of have an idea in your head of what it's about or what's available around you, and then you go there and you try things that aren't maybe commercially available, certainly an old vintage like that, or you discover wineries like Fields Family Wines or Uvaggio making all these really interesting things, and all of a sudden you're like, wow, my Lodi view has changed. Jim Gordon: Uvaggio is a great example. They make this really spectacular Passito, dessert wine, and I think it was from Vermentino, which was fabulous. On the other hand, they make a dry Muscat, and you expect Muscat to be sweet, Vermentino to be dry. They turned it around and really two interesting wines from whit grapes. Jameson Fink: The Vermentino and the Muscat are great. So Jim, thanks for joining me and talking about Lodi, the diversity of grapes there, and also the fact that, hey, there's Zinfandel there too, and it's also worth paying attention to even though they make a lot of it. There's people doing really interesting and exciting things, and my only regret is when I visited that you weren't around in town and we couldn't hang out for a little bit. I was disappointed by that, Jim. Jim Gordon: Well, we did get together afterward. Jameson Fink: We did, we did. Thanks again for joining me today, Jim. Jim Gordon: My pleasure. Jameson Fink: And thank you for listening to the What We're Tasting podcast, sponsored by Vivino, wine made easy. The three wines we talked about today are: The Klinker Brick 2017 Albariño, Scotto Family Cellars' 2017 dry Sangiovese Rosé, and Jessie's Grove 2015 Ancient Vine Carignane. Find What We're Tasting on iTunes, Google Play, or wherever you find podcasts. And if you liked today's episode, please give us a five star rating on iTunes, leave a comment, and tell your friends. What We're Tasting is a Wine Enthusiast podcast. Check out Wine Enthusiast online at WineMag.com

Jim Thorpe – “The World's Greatest Athlete” – Part 1 (Olympic Gold)

The Football History Dude

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2018 22:07

Tweet This episode we fire up the DeLorean and head back to explore part 1 of a 2-part series of Jim Thorpe, "The World's Greatest Athlete". The timeline covered in this episode is Jim's birth through his time in college and the 1912 Stockholm Olympics. So strap on your seat belt, and let's get ready to take this baby up to 88mph. Connect with the show: https://thefootballhistorydude.com/episode12/ (Visit the show notes for this episode) https://thefootballhistorydude.com/about-the-show/ (Visit me on the web - my about page) https://thefootballhistorydude.com/contact/ (Contact the show) https://twitter.com/FHDude (Follow me on Twitter) Subscribe on YouTube Click below for the transcript. I have included affiliate links to Amazon throughout the transcript to complement the episode. If you purchase through these links it will support the show at no extra cost to you. Read Full Transcript Today we celebrate the 4th of July in the United States of America. This is the day back in 1776 where our forefathers finalized a Declaration for Independence. We all must not take lightly the sacrifices made by the men and women back in 1776, nor any time in history. So first, I want to thank all the men and women for protecting this great nation of ours and in this upcoming episode, I'm going to cover part 1 of a 2 part series of the World's Greatest Athlete, Jim Thorpe. Childhood This time as we step off our DeLorean, the date is June 25th, 1876. Which is basically a 100 years after the Declaration of Independence. And we are in Little Big Horn valley. You see, this was the scene of the most decisive victory for the Native Americans in the Plains Indian War, which was a very long war. And most of you know it as the Battle of Little Big Horn, or you might also know it as the famous Custer's Last Stand. And why am I talking about wars that happened all these years ago? What's the reason for it? Well, like I said, today is the day of our independence. And part of that was the independence for all peoples, and the guy we're going to talk about in this episode, Mr. Jim Thorpe. He was born 12 years after this battle. So you gotta say, there was not that many years between when America was still fighting with Native people of this land. Jim Thorpe was born on a reservation, which we're going to go ahead and take that DeLorean back to May 28th, 1888. We are in Prague, which is present day Oklahoma, and it was Indian Territory at the time. Jim Thorpe was born with the name James Francis Thorpe. But that wasn't really the name that he recognized as a young boy. He was predominately American Indian, and this came from his mother's side. Who was a descendant of Sauk and Fox Chief, Black Hawk. According to the ESPN Classic video that I saw, and I'm going to provide links to you. When a Native American mother had a baby, she would name the baby after the first thing she saw, and they mentioned how she saw the sun rising and there was a path. Kind of like through the trees or something. She named him Wah-Tho-Huk, which translated into Bright Path. And the name Bright Path for Jim Thorpe was an understatement. He would go on to have one of those once in a millennium type of careers, and no one else could rival him. And he was Native American. Like I said, there was that war that was going on, and there wasn't a whole lot of getting along back in 1888. He was born on a reservation. This is where we start the journey of Jim Thorpe, and what turned him from an Indian on a reservation into what would become the World's Greatest Athlete. The first major adversity Jim had to deal with was he had a twin brother that passed away at the age of 8. He was one of Jim's best friends. Then 6 years later his mother passed away. So Jim was kind of this kid that was losing his way, didn't quite understand in the world, and they spoke in the video how he still had that running with the feet and his heart to the... Support this podcast

The TNJ April 2018 Roundtable

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Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2018 104:58

So Jim was away for most of April and it seems that there was a lot to catch up on... so he got together with regular co-hosts Chris Brooker and Matt Richards to talk about a top ten list of big topics from the month in a new, hopefully slightly less unwieldy format. Nicholas! Takeover! Mania! Titus falling over! Plus a pun game. You know the drill. Oh yeah, and someone has a book out.SUPPORT THIS PODCAST! Rate, review, subscribe, etc. Point new listeners at www.jimsmallman.com/tnj. And get involved by tweeting @jimsmallman using #TuesdayNightJaw.TNJ remains super delighted to be part of the awesome Distraction Pieces Network. Check out all the good stuff! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jim Kwik - Increase Memory & Brain Performance

180 Nutrition -The Health Sessions.

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2018 70:13

Stu: This week we welcome Jim Kwik to the show. He is the founder of Kwik Learning and a widely recognized world expert in speed-reading, memory improvement, brain performance, and accelerated learning. For over two decades, he has served as the brain coach to students, seniors, entrepreneurs, and educators, and as an advisor to many of the world’s leading CEOs and celebrities. Questions we ask in this episode: What do you say to those who self-label themselves as ‘just having a poor memory’? What do you think are the most common roadblocks where learning is concerned? What are your thoughts on artificial stimulants like coffee or energy drinks? Do you think that nutrition can impact our mental performance? https://shop.180nutrition.com.au/ This week, I'm excited to welcome Jim Kwik. Now Jim is the founder of Kwik Learning, a widely recognized world expert in speed reading, memory improvement, brain performance, and accelerated learning. In this episode, we discuss the strategies he developed to improve the productivity of our brains, and on the flip side, the most common roadblocks that hold us back from our full potential. Stu: 00:01:02 So if you think you've been burdened with a poor memory, or you struggle to remember phone numbers, or simply want to sharpen your brain, then you will get a lot from this interview. Anyway, enough rambling from me. Let's get into the show. Stu 00:01:18 Hey guys, this is Stu from 180 Nutrition, and I am delighted to welcome Jim Kwik to the show. Good morning, Jim. How are you? Jim 00:01:25 Stu, thank you, and thank everybody who's joining us. Looking forward to this. Stu 00:01:29 Fantastic. So Jim, before we get into the nuts and bolts of the show today, I would love if you could just tell our listeners a little bit about yourself, what you do, why you do it, and go for it. Jim 00:01:46 Sounds good. Well, if people are listening to this episode, at some level they're probably interested in improving their mental performance, their focus, their memory, they want to read faster, they know their brain controls every aspect of their life. If people see me on stage or on YouTube, they've seen me memorize 100 people's names. Like literally, 100 people stand up and I'll remember their names, or they'll give me 100 words or 100 numbers, and I'll memorize them forwards and backwards. But I always tell people, Stu, I don't do this to impress you. I do this more to express to you what's possible because the truth is every single person who's listening to this can do that and a lot more. The only challenge is we weren't taught. If anything, we were taught a lie, a lie that somehow our intelligence, our potential, our memory for instance is somehow fixed, like our shoe size. For full interview and transcript: http://180nutrition.com.au/180-tv/jim-kwik-interview/

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Groundhog Day Marathon Aftermath!

Bald Movies

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2018 76:06

So Jim and I did this 24 hour Groundhog Day marathon on Groundhog Day, lots of Bald Move fans showed up to cheer us on, and together we wound up raising $10,205 for the homeless! You can watch the entire thing on YouTube if you’re so inclined, but if you want to know the highlights, listen to this podcast. We couldn’t be prouder of the Bald Move family. We truly felt like we really came together and did something special. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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100: The War Games

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2017 212:13

"You have returned to us, Doctor. Your travels are over." But thankfully not forever. It was, indeed, a long way from being all over. So Jim and Martin stagger to their century milestone with their biggest story yet, The War Games. It's an epic tale of trials, tribulations, heavily corrected (and impaired) vision, and a Very. Stupid. Voice. The Doctor plays with fridge magnets, Jamie plays the fool, Zoe plays Villa like a violin and the War Lord plays with his real live toy soldiers - and gets a Paddington stare for his trouble. Romans gawp and mince, wigs wander almost as far as the accents, and the scenery is chewed up, gargled and spat out - even when it's as wobbly as a Quark under enemy fire. So do Jim and Martin think this is a worthy end for a very worthy Doctor? Or was it ten parts of terrible tedium? Listen in to find out.

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Season 2: Episode 13 - Half Season Awards Time

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Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2017 74:12

With Week 9 complete, the NFL regular season is officially half way through. So Jim & the King give out some half season awards to their favourite over-achievers. The pair also go through a chippy week of games. The King finishes with picking his winners for Week 10 against yet another new challenger. jimandtheking.com

Season 2: Episode 12 - Trading Places

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2017 94:20

Week 8 is behind us now. So Jim and the King break down all the games from the past week as well as looking into all the trades made on deadline day. jimandtheking.com

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Season 2: Episode 9 - Hooked On A Kneeling

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2017 93:52

Week 5 of the 2017 NFL regular season is done. So Jim and the King break down each game while hitting news from the last 7 days at the same time. Including an O-line coach who loves lines, and a vice president who hates protests, kind of. In Part 2, the King is called out once again with his picks for this weekend's games. jimandtheking.com

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Season 2: Episode 5 - Football is back!

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2017 90:50

The NFL season is finally here, but the King isn't. So Jim has drafted in Podcast regular, @Punk_Raider to help review all of week 1's fixtures. Every. Single. One. In the second part of the episode, Punk gives his picks for this weekend's games jimandtheking.com

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The Summerslam 2017, NXT Takeover Brooklyn 3 and PROGRESS Does America Roundtable

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Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2017 135:57

So Jim is still in the USA doing wrestling stuff, so he's joined in a hotel in Orlando by his friends and PROGRESS business partners Glen Joseph and Jon Briley to discuss a lot of things... So there's the very eventful two PROGRESS shows in New York and Boston and all of the headaches, injuries and team spirit that came with that adventure. Get the inside story on all that with three people who were there. Then the lads went to both NXT Takeover Brooklyn and Summerslam and had a great time, so hear their opinions on those shows - SPOILERS: one of those shows is one of their favourites of the year. Time is of the essence so wasn't a chance to have listener questions on this one! SUPPORT THIS PODCAST! We have a LIVE episode on September 9th at the London Podcast Festival (12pm to 1.30pm). Come to that OR buy the sweet new TNJ merch. Links to both via www.jimsmallman.com/tnj Also use the link above to point people in the direction of this podcast. Don't forget to rate and review wherever you get your podcasts, and get in touch via @jimsmallman using #TuesdayNightJaw. And of course, TNJ is super proud to be part of the awesome Distraction Pieces Network. Check out all the cool stuff there! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jim's August 2017 TNJ Q and A Spectacular

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Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2017 108:08

So Jim gave the TNJ listeners about 12 hours to get some questions in to him... and he got a record amount! He likes to do these from time to time, and this might be the best one yet. If he didn't answer your question then drop him a tweet via @jimsmallman, using #TuesdayNightJaw. THERE IS A LIVE TNJ COMING UP! At the London Podcast Festival on September 9th at NOON, Jim and special guests will host a live roundtable discussion. Come along! Tickets via www.kingsplace.co.uk/tnjlive. SUPPORT THIS PODCAST! Point people at www.jimsmallman.com/tnj and rate, review and all that on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts from. And don't forget TNJ is proudly part of the Distraction Pieces Network. So check all their good stuff out! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jim Wins The Turner Prize *Explicit

Art, I Swear

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2017

This is probably our most obscene podcast, parential adviersy stuff. So Jim decided he wanted to win Great Brittons Turner Prize and solicits help from Vanessa. Discussed are several controversial Turner Prize winners and explinations of why their art is accepted. Art, I Swear | Podcast

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CapaldiCast 9.3 / 9.4: Under The Lake / Before The Flood

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2015 49:10

"This is called The Bootstrap Paradox. Google it." So now we have to do some homework before settling down to our favourite programme? Maybe not, as we get an explanation of what's going to happen before (and after) we watch it happen in Before the Flood. Oh for the simpler if more claustrophobic pleasures to be found Under The Lake. And our pre-titles primer also involves the fourth wall of the TARDIS being demolished and the Doctor turning his amp up to 11 (again). So Jim and Martin marshal together their views on what turned out to be very much a game of two halves - and even manage to do so without uttering the dreaded 't-w' word. And the lads close with a decision of which Tegan's Aunt Vanessa would have been proud. Uncover (some of) the mystery here.

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CapaldiCast 1.10 - In the Forest of the Night

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2014 30:45

"Farewell to the Ice Age. Welcome to the Tree Age. Possibly." Chilling words (possibly), even to the most ardent of tree-huggers. So the world is covered in trees and the TARDIS is swarming with children in the latest series 8 episode, In the Forest of the Night. The Doctor tries to work out what's going on, Clara tries to remember she's a teacher, Danny tries to dazzle the eye(s) of the tiger and the kids try everyone's patience. Wolves chase people (slowly), Nelson's Column droops and a missing person is found in a shrubbery. So Jim and Martin can't help being reminded of the words of the White Guardian: "Nothing will happen. Nothing at all. Ever..."

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CapaldiCast 1.2 Into The Dalek