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Is there a secret recipe for start-up success? Probably not. But if you take a close enough look at some of the massive success stories like Twitter and Lyft, patterns start to emerge. Venture capitalists Mike Maples, Jr. and Peter Ziebelman pull back the curtain and examine how start-ups go from seedling ideas to billion-dollar companies in their book, Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future.Mike, Peter, and Greg discuss the roles that insight and implementation play in determining a start-up's chance at success, how investors distinguish between genius and crazy, and why the best founders are like artists.*unSILOed Podcast is produced by University FM.*Episode Quotes:Distinguishing idea vs. insight25:33: [Mike Maples Jr.] A lot of people confuse risk and uncertainty. And so, like, I might have an idea in an existing market that there's a clear need for, but it's a bounded upside idea. But I can connect the dots between the idea, customers wanting it, and a successful business. I might, on the other hand, have an idea that's like Justin TV, right? Which is a reality 24/7 streaming TV show, which is crazy online. But it embodied a lot of inflections and insight. It was a terrible idea, but a great opportunity. And so what we're interested in is not certainty about the future, because if we're going after a non-consensus idea, if we have real insight, we can't know we're certain yet. All we can know is that we're non-consensus. Just because we don't know how the dots will forward connect doesn't mean they won't forward connect. And it doesn't mean that the expected value of the upside isn't higher. So that's what we kind of encourage people to say: just because you don't know how success will happen doesn't mean that it's not way better to pursue that path.The crucial elements that contribute to startup's breakthrough06:10: [Peter Ziebelman] There's still a lot of luck and perhaps intuition and guesswork to determine whether you're going to find a breakthrough or build a breakthrough. But having said that, we do believe there are elements that can tip the balance—inflections. Another element is seeing that the entrepreneur has insight, something they know to be true that others do not yet believe, and we believe insights are one of the things that explain a lot about startups.Being a founder is like being an artist52:34: [Mike Maples Jr.] A lot of people think about what type of business person is an entrepreneur. And what I've come to believe is that the right way to think about it is they're more like an artist than they are like an engineer, a salesperson, or anything else. [53:06] And by that, I mean two things. First of all, artists notice something that other people don't notice, right? And then the other thing that artists do is convince people to abandon their logic. And so, like, no rational employee would join a startup. No rational customer would buy from a startup. No rational investor would invest in a startup. [53:45] So the founder has to convince all of us to abandon logic and go on a journey where we're 85 percent likely to not succeed. And so the best founders I've ever met have those. Attributes of the artist, and they have the artistry to notice from their sensitivity, and they have the artistry to persuade and convince people. They have the artistry to notice from their sensitivity, and they have the artistry to persuade and convince people. How does a founder balance persistence with openness to new data and insights?21:06: [Mike Maples Jr.] If you have the right insight, when we talk about pivoting, your insight, like in basketball, is like your pivot foot. You hold it planted firm, and you move your body by either modifying your implementation, modifying the audience that you talk to, or some combination. But if you have to leave your pivot foot, you're no longer attached to anything as a startup, right? You might as well start over. You might as well try a new idea or just give up. And so that's where I think you reconcile it. You want to be flexible in your experimentation of navigating your insight to the desperate, but you want to be fixed about what you believe is different about the future.Show Links:Recommended Resources:Hamilton HelmerVilfredo Pareto Reed HastingsScott Cook Justin.tvFounders FundVinod KhoslaGuest Profile:Mike Maples, Jr. Professional Profile at FloodgateMike Maples, Jr. Podcast, Pattern BreakersPeter Ziebelman Professional Profile at Palo Alto Venture PartnersPeter Ziebelman Faculty Profile at Stanford Graduate School of BusinessTheir Work:Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future
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Follow me @samirkaji for my thoughts on the venture market, with a focus on the continued evolution of the VC landscape.We're re-joined by Mike Maples, Jr. of Floodgate, this time to discuss his just released new book "Pattern Breakers."Mike was first on the pod in 2021 and it was great to catch up again, this time to discuss the importance of identifying founders who are true pattern breakers. We spoke about how his observations on the last 14 years at Floodgate inspired him to write the book. We went through concepts such as founder-future fit, the winning formula of inflections and insights, and his experience that 80% of their returns have been from companies with some major insight or pivot. You can find Mike's book "Pattern Breakers" and additional insights on his substack at patternbreakers.substack.com.About Mike Maples, Jr.:Mike Maples, Jr. is a co-founding Partner at Floodgate. He has been on the Forbes Midas List eight times in the last decade and was also named a “Rising Star” by FORTUNE and profiled by Harvard Business School for his lifetime contributions to entrepreneurship. Before becoming a full-time investor, Mike was involved as a founder and operating executive at back-to-back startup IPOs, including Tivoli Systems (IPO TIVS, acquired by IBM) and Motive (IPO MOTV, acquired by Alcatel-Lucent.)Some of Mike's investments include Twitter, Twitch.tv, Clover Health, Okta, Outreach, ngmoco, Chegg, Bazaarvoice, and Demandforce.Mike is known for coining the term “Thunder Lizards,” which is a metaphor derived from Godzilla that describes the tiny number of truly exceptional companies that are wildly disruptive capitalist mutations. Mike likes to think of himself as a hunter of the “atomic eggs” that beget these companies.Mike is the host of the Pattern Breakers podcast, which shares startup lessons from the super performers.In this episode, we discuss:(02:00) The story behind writing "Pattern Breakers" and the investment in Twitch and the importance of pivots(04:07) Insights from returns on pivots and major insider pivots(05:02) The concept of founder-future fit and initial skepticism(07:04) The inflection point of Twitch pivoting from Justin.tv(10:28) Authenticity and insights in startup founders(14:32) The role of pattern recognition in startup success(16:24) Creating movements and attracting early believers(21:12) Importance of inflection points in startup success(25:00) Non-obvious inflection points and backcasting(29:52) The formula of inflection plus insight(32:00) Non-consensus and right: key to venture success(34:52) Venture capital and risk-taking(38:00) Inflections and protecting unconventional ideas(41:00) Patience as a form of arbitrage in venture investing(45:00) Insights from Annie Duke on decision-making in venture capitalI'd love to know what you took away from this conversation with Mike. Follow me @SamirKaji and give me your insights and questions with the hashtag #ventureunlocked. If you'd like to be considered as a guest or have someone you'd like to hear from (GP or LP), drop me a direct message on Twitter.Podcast Production support provided by Agent Bee This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit ventureunlocked.substack.com
Michael Seibel didn't set out to become a legendary startup founder. As a young man, his sights were set on politics, dreaming of a future on the Supreme Court. But his friendship with fellow Yale classmate Justin Kan led to a fortuitous cross-country trip to California that changed everything. In this episode, Mike Maples, Jr. of Floodgate talks with Seibel about the creation of Justin.tv and Twitch, and the wisdom he shares with aspiring founders as a partner and managing director at Y Combinator. Check out the new Pattern Breakers Blog at patternbreakers.substack.com for even more Pattern Breaking content from Mike.
The boys discuss a piece of wholesome internet lore from February of 2014. Josh marked down the 10th anniversary of a pillar of Internet gaming lore and did the research to share it with us. Did you watch or play Pokemon along with Twitch in February 2014?Who are your favorite Twitch streamers? Let us know!Don't forget to check out the Friends Who Like Stuff Twitch ChannelInstagram: @popschtickEmail: popschtick@gmail.comArtwork by: Josh JacksonMusic appears courtesy of Leo Goes Grr:Intro: The Thief from the ep The ThiefOutro: Sunset, OK from the ep We'll Come Back for You
That Nerd Violet has been involved with Twitch since the JustinTV days. As much love as she has for the platform she knew that if she wanted to continue to be a creator she needs to branch out and expand to other platforms. However in doing this, she found a new passion for creating through expanding to YouTube. Listen to this episode to find out how she deals with trolls, diversifying her content, and making sure she is taking care of her own health. Listen to this episode with Stonemountain64 and ThatNerdViolet! Guest: https://twitter.com/thatnerdviolet Host: https://twitter.com/StoneMountain64 Producer: https://twitter.com/IAmBpala
It's Post Unavailable time, where we ramble about everything horrid and esoteric under the sun like Chris' excuses, Laptop clitoris, 3DS peripherals, condom hacks, a posh wank, John Pork, the mustard belt, measured by orgasm, face sitting diving bell, Smosh is back, will it pussy?, Smosh.com articles, unsupervised Twitch, Genshin Impact whales, Justin TV, Italian Flash, Non-Binaria, Robert Downey Jr lifts, Tom Cruise assistants, Black Scientologists, going to Ohio vs joining a cult, Freedom Medal of Valour, freak Simpson voice actors, Shelly Miscavige, natty woman, Dj Khaled Poseidon, packed lip funeral, and dip ocean. It's like listening to a podcast. Check out our monkey merch!: https://my-store-c638a6.creator-spring.com
Daniel Kan is the Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer at Cruise, a leading self-driving car company sold to General Motors for over $1 Billion 2 years after its founding. Before building Cruise, Daniel co-founded EXEC with his brother Justin Kan, the founder of Justin.tv (which later became Twitch). After founding the company in 2011, EXEC was sold to Handy in 2014. You can learn more about: How to have the confidence and knowledge it takes to start a technology company without being technical How to navigate the startup phases you need to go through, from having few people on the founding team to selling it over $1 Billion Lessons from early on in life shaped how you think as an entrepreneur ===================== YouTube: @GraceGongCEO Newsletter: @SmartVenture LinkedIn: @GraceGong TikTok: @GraceGongCEO IG: @GraceGongCEO Twitter: @GraceGongGG =====================
Episode Introduction: 0:00Cold Open: 00:37[song] Disconnected: 5:14Main Title: 8:34My Wasted Life Lead-In: 9:02[song] My Wasted LifeMean Lead-In: 16:31[song] Mean: 20:31The Great Indie-Rock Swindle Lead-In: 23:45[song] The Great Indie-Rock Swindle: 30:09Ready for War Lead-In: 34:39[song] Ready for War: 36:27Episode Summation: 40:31END: 41:51
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FG and Blind take a trip down several memory lanes as they celebrate one year of the Halcyon Podcast, talking about their oldest memories of JustinTV and revisiting games from ages past, as well as the games of 2023 they're looking forward to.GamesDwarf Fortress: https://store.steampowered.com/app/975370/Dwarf_Fortress/Aquaticohttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1812300/Aquatico/Viscera Cleanup Detailhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/246900/Viscera_Cleanup_Detail/High on Life https://store.steampowered.com/app/1583230/High_On_Life/Details:Twitch streamer status breakdown for Q4:https://twitter.com/CommanderRoot/status/1610281678555189251Link to video with Putnam!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79J3X8ulER0News:Lost Ark Steam Bans: https://www.pcgamesn.com/lost-ark-online/steam-ban-inactive-playersTheir Response:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1599340/view/5251793712052809901Games of 2023:https://www.gamespot.com/articles/2023-upcoming-games-release-schedule/1100-6508202/
Tricia Sugita at one point was one of the top Starcraft players in the world. This led to her getting offers to play professionally, and even an early recruitment to stream on JustinTV which would eventually become Twitch. This ascent to the top of the gaming world started early with competitions between her and her brothers. Her natural competitiveness led her to hone her video game skills until she could easily dominate her much older siblings. Fast forward to her college years and early adulthood, and Tricia became a serious competitive gamer and a pioneer in the now ubiquitous world of streaming, becoming an early twitch partner. Now the CEO of her own esports organization FlyQuest, Tricia strives to imbue positivity, happiness, and sustainability in all she does. UPDATE: Just a heads up, at the time we recorded this episode Tricia was the CEO of Flyquest but in the time since we've talked, she's now working at Cloud9 as their Chief Marketing Officer! On behalf of the FF team, we'd like to extend a big congrats to her. Now let's get on with the episode... Subscribe to our Newsletter! https://findingfounders.co/subscribe Website: findingfounders.co Follow Sam: https://www.instagram.com/samueldonner/ Follow Finding Founders IG: https://www.instagram.com/findingfounderspodcast/
Welcome to The Quest Pod Season 2: Episode 42 with Michelle Phan. Michelle is a pioneer of the online makeup and beauty genre. Since joining YouTube back in 2006, Michelle has since become one of the top beauty content creator and amassed a following of over 8 million subscribers. She is also an active investor and runs her own cosmetic line named EM Cosmetics (https://www.emcosmetics.com/) In this episode, Michelle talks about her origin story, the ups and downs of being a content creator, as well as her personal philosophies. She also shares the story behind her sudden hiatus in 2015. Michelle's Links:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuYx81nzzz4OFQrhbKDzTngInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/michellephan/?hl=enTwitter: https://twitter.com/michellephan?lang=en TRY MAGIC MIND: Buy Now ► https://www.magicmind.co/justin Get 20% with My Discount Code ► JUSTIN20
Welcome to The Quest Pod Season 2: Episode 40 with Henry Schuck. Henry is the founder and CEO of ZoomInfo, a go-to-market intelligence solution for more than 20,000 companies worldwide. The ZoomInfo platform empowers business-to-business sales, marketing, and recruiting professionals to hit their number by pairing best-in-class technology with unrivalled data coverage, accuracy, and depth of company and contact information. Henry got the idea for the company after working as a marketing analyst in college nearly two decades ago, a job he took to help pay his undergrad degree. In this conversation, Henry discusses how to maintain a high-growth company and how to deal with imposter syndrome as a CEO. Check out Henry's LinkedIn ►https://www.linkedin.com/in/hschuck/Follow Henry on Twitter ►https://twitter.com/henrylschuck The incredible stories on this podcast are made possible by our sponsors, check them out to support The Quest:Magic Mind: https://magicmind.co/
Welcome to The Quest Pod Season 2: Episode 38 with Sahil Bloom. Sahil spent 7 years at Altamont Capital Partners, an investment fund managing over $3.5B. He is now a Partner at The Room Where It Happens (https://theroomwhereithappens.co/), a community designed to spark conversation and bring entrepreneurial minds together. Sahil is also an active angel investor in 35+ tech start-ups. To share his learnings and insights in business, finance and tech, Sahil runs a media platform with ~ 400K followers across his Twitter and newsletter, sharing insights into business, finance and tech. In this conversation, Sahil discusses his experience telling meaningful stories, the untapped potential of DAOs, writing Tweet threads and dealing with failure in public. The incredible stories on this podcast are made possible by our sponsors, check them out to support The Quest: Magic Mind: https://magicmind.co/ Check out Sahil's LinkedIn ► https://www.linkedin.com/in/sahilbloom/ Follow Sahil on Twitter ► https://twitter.com/SahilBloom
It's Balaji's world, and we're all just living in it. If you've been hanging out on tech Twitter long enough or listen to any other tech podcasts, then you're probably familiar with Balaji. He is an angel investor, entrepreneur, and formerly the CTO of Coinbase and General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz. In this epic episode, you'll hear topics ranging from decentralization, crypto, media tech, social networking, China, machine learning, digital privacy and much more. Balaji has one of the most incredible minds I have ever met, and I am excited to bring you along on this journey. You can find Balaji on Twitter, and read his personal blog here. The incredible stories on this podcast are made possible by our sponsors, check them out to support The Quest:Magic Mind (This episode was originally released as S2:E20 in 2021)
Welcome to The Quest Pod Season 2: Episode 37 with Eren Bali.Eren was the founding CEO of Udemy, an open online course provider which now offers 180K+ courses to 40M students. He is now the co-founder and CEO of Carbon Health, a vertically integrated, tech-enabled healthcare provider which started in 2015 and was most recently valued at $3.3B. Eren started the company after his mother fell ill and the traditional healthcare system took several months to reach the proper diagnosis and treatment. It began as a mobile app enabling patients to communicate directly with doctors, store medical records and facilitate telehealth appointments. It now has 90 physical clinics located in 14 states within the US.In this episode, Eren talks about the up and downs of founding Udemy and Carbon Health, the importance of perseverance and many other valuable learnings.Check out Eren's LinkedIn ► https://twitter.com/erenbaliFollow Eren on Twitter ► https://www.linkedin.com/in/erenbali/
Welcome to The Quest Pod Season 2: Episode 35 with Scott Harrison: the founder and CEO of charity: water. After working as a nightclub promoter surrounded by drugs and booze, Scott wanted to find meaning in his life. He volunteered with a healthcare organisation in Liberia as a photojournalist, where he was exposed to one big issue: access to clean drinking water. He founded charity: water in 2006. Since this time, the organisation has provided fresh water to over 13.2M across 29 countries. In this conversation, we talk about starting a non-profit, innovating in charity work and finding purpose in life. Make sure to follow Scott on LinkedIn and Twitter! A huge shoutout to Magic Mind for making this podcast possible (use code JUSTIN20 to get 20% off). If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter! THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
I always like to practice gratitude, especially on my birthday. The past year has been tumultuous for us all, but I'm fortunate enough to have taken some positive learnings from it. In this podcast, I talk about the benefits of opening yourself up to try new things, zone of competence vs genius, investing your time in those who reciprocate and more. I hope these teachings can welcome more happiness into your life as they did to mine. I also shared this story on my YouTube channel and Twitter. Drop a comment to let me know what you think which startup stories you want to hear about next! THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Welcome to The Quest Pod Season 1: Episode 34 with Eric Glyman: a two-time fintech founder shares his advice for innovating in a crowded market. Eric Glyman is the co-founder and CEO of Ramp, the only corporate card that helps companies spend less. He also previously founded Paribus to help consumers get money back on their online purchases. Eric's success reflects the power of customer-centric design: focus on building something that serves and created value for your market, instead of trying to extract as much money from your customers as possible. In this conversation, we talk about leaving a stable job to found a start-up, leading big teams and unlocking innovation. Check out Eric's LinkedIn ► https://www.linkedin.com/in/eglyman/If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter!A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Tiktok is making changes to it's algo to protect the kids. Why does it seem enough when Instagram does the same thing and it's never enough? Meta is coming in hot with the Metaverse, Minecraft has a TRILLION views on Youtube and Twitch's cofounder can't resist NFTS
Sriram Krishnan is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz. He's also the popular host of the Good Time Show, a late-night Clubhouse event that has featured guests such as Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Calvin Harris and more. Before getting into venture capital, Sriram spent more than a decade across Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat. Sriram has had an incredible journey: he grew up in India, came to the States and worked with Silicon Valley's top 1%. In this conversation, we talk about what it's like to be around people like Jack Dorsey and Evan Spiegel, his content creator learnings, tips for anyone hoping to break into tech and more. I'm a big fan of Sriram's content. You can find his YouTube channel here and subscribe to the GTS Clubhouse show here. If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter! A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Welcome to my new show OnlyFriends, where my Silicon Valley group chat comes to life. On this episode, we discuss the Billionaire tax, the antiwork phenomenon, Faze Clan's billion dollar SPAC deal, and the nature of paternity leave.Starring: Justin Kan: Twitch co-founder and investor at Goat Capital (https://twitter.com/justinkan)Emmett Shear: Twitch co-founder and current Twitch CEO (https://twitter.com/eshear)Michael Seibel: Twitch co-founder and CEO of Y Combinator (https://twitter.com/mwseibel)Nicole Farb: Darby Smart co-founder and investor at Headline (https://twitter.com/nicolefarb)Submit your story to Dear OnlyFriends here! If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter! A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Welcome to my new show OnlyFriends, where my Silicon Valley group chat comes to life. On this episode, we discuss my new companies, our new advice segment, Dear OnlyFriends, the COVID vaccine, Coinbase's mission-focused statement, and crypto gaming. Starring: Justin Kan: Twitch co-founder and investor at Goat Capital (https://twitter.com/justinkan)Emmett Shear: Twitch co-founder and current Twitch CEO (https://twitter.com/eshear)Michael Seibel: Twitch co-founder and CEO of Y Combinator (https://twitter.com/mwseibel)Nicole Farb: Darby Smart co-founder and investor at Headline (https://twitter.com/nicolefarb)Submit your story to Dear OnlyFriends here! If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter! A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Airbnb almost didn't make it. Here's the story of how they got into Y Combinator, after a few screw-ups, tons of breakfast cereals sold, an improbable email and advice from a sad Emmett who could've invested at the perfect moment. I also shared this story on my YouTube channel and Twitter. Drop a comment to let me know what you think which startup stories you want to hear about next! A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Welcome to my new show OnlyFriends, where my Silicon Valley group chat comes to life. On this episode, we discuss my new companies, our new advice segment, Dear OnlyFriends, the COVID vaccine, Coinbase's mission-focused statement, and crypto gaming. Starring: Justin Kan: Twitch co-founder and investor at Goat Capital (https://twitter.com/justinkan)Emmett Shear: Twitch co-founder and current Twitch CEO (https://twitter.com/eshear)Michael Seibel: Twitch co-founder and CEO of Y Combinator (https://twitter.com/mwseibel)Nicole Farb: Darby Smart co-founder and investor at Headline (https://twitter.com/nicolefarb)Submit your story to Dear OnlyFriends here! If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter! A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Welcome to my new show OnlyFriends, where my Silicon Valley group chat comes to life. On this episode, we discuss China banning crypto, the Theranos trial and fraud in Silicon Valley, whether Facebook is unethical, and free startup ideas. Starring: Justin Kan: Twitch co-founder and investor at Goat Capital (https://twitter.com/justinkan) Emmett Shear: Twitch co-founder and current Twitch CEO (https://twitter.com/eshear) Michael Seibel: Twitch co-founder and CEO of Y Combinator (https://twitter.com/mwseibel) Nicole Farb: Darby Smart co-founder and investor at Headline (https://twitter.com/nicolefarb)If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter! A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
I sat down with my Justin.tv cofounder, Michael Seibel, to talk about how we turned our live reality show Justin.tv into the global platform that eventually became Twitch. Michael was previously the CEO of Y Combinator, the seed stage fund known as the first investor in Stripe, Dropbox, Instacart, Coinbase, Reddit, and thousands of other startups. Michael is one of my closest friends and an amazing mentor. In this episode we talk about his education at Yale, founding Justin.tv together, mentoring the Airbnb founders early on, how to get funded by Y Combinator, and so much more. (This episode was originally released as S1:E1 in 2020) If you liked this episode, check out our YouTube channel and follow us on Twitter! A thank to our sponsors Universe and CashApp for making this podcast possible. THE QUEST MEDIA | CONTENT MEETS SILICON VALLEY |
Justin Kan is an entrepreneur and investor best known as the co-founder of Twitch. In 2006, Kan launched the live video service Justin.tv, a company that started when he strapped a camera to his head and streamed his life to the internet 24/7. Over the next 8 years, he and his co-founders turned the business into Twitch, which ultimately sold to Amazon in 2014 for $970 million. Kan has also founded half a dozen other companies, raising more than $500 million in venture capital, and invested in numerous startups, including Reddit, Cruise Automation, Bird, and Rippling. In this conversation with Stanford adjunct lecturer Ravi Belani, Kan discusses the highs and lows of his life in startups, and explores what both success and failure have taught him about building entrepreneurial resilience and finding satisfaction.
Justin Kan is an entrepreneur and investor best known as the co-founder of Twitch. In 2006, Kan launched the live video service Justin.tv, a company that started when he strapped a camera to his head and streamed his life to the internet 24/7. Over the next 8 years, he and his co-founders turned the business into Twitch, which ultimately sold to Amazon in 2014 for $970 million. Kan has also founded half a dozen other companies, raising more than $500 million in venture capital, and invested in numerous startups, including Reddit, Cruise Automation, Bird, and Rippling. In this conversation with Stanford adjunct lecturer Ravi Belani, Kan discusses the highs and lows of his life in startups, and explores what both success and failure have taught him about building entrepreneurial resilience and finding satisfaction.
Alexandra and Andrea Botez are my favorite content creators in the game right now. The sisters run BotezLive, one of the biggest chess-streaming channels on Twitch and YouTube with over 900,000 subscribers. Since the age of six, Alexandra has fought tooth and nail to earn her recognition and success. These experiences developed the resilience that fueled her professional chess career, and transitioned her into the content creation grind. In this episode we dive deep into the gritty reality of what it really takes to become a full-time streamer, lessons from failed startups, learning how to take constructive criticism, and figuring out how to bring authenticity to content creation. If you are an aspiring creator yourself, the Botez sisters have some extremely valuable takeaways - so stay tuned. Enjoyed this episode? The incredible stories on this podcast are made possible by our sponsors, check them out to support The Quest Pod:Universe | The best mobile command centre for building your online business and content.Cashapp | Spend, save, invest in stocks and cryptocurrency easily
When Justin.tv launched in 2007, we had no idea what it would eventually become. Don't be fooled; the journey was far from glamorous. In this episode I sit down with my good friends and Twitch co-founders Michael, Emmett, and Kyle to reminisce on the glory days of building Justin.tv and Twitch. We laugh about behind the scenes stories you haven't heard anywhere else, reflect on the best and worst moments, how we worked well as a team, discuss joy and motivation, and fantasize about solving the problems of tomorrow. You'll hear the importance of building ‘bad' things quickly, developing the right mindset for building a startup, and how to stay curious. Check out the full episode on Justin Kan's YouTube channel here. Enjoyed this episode? The incredible stories on this podcast are made possible by our sponsors, check them out to support The Quest:Universe | The best mobile command centre for building your online business and content.Cashapp | Spend, save, invest in stocks and cryptocurrency easily
JustBecci gehört zu den Twitch-Urgesteinen im deutschsprachigen Raum: Sie war bereits als Streamerin aktiv, als die Plattform noch JustinTV hieß und experimentierte früh mit damals ungewöhnlichen Formaten, inklusive einer selbstproduzierten Talkshow. Jetzt, rund neun Jahre nach Beginn ihrer Karriere auf der Plattform, legt die Österreicherin eine Pause ein. Ein großer Schritt. Im Gespräch mit Dom Schott erzählt sie von ihren Gründen, der Plattform erst einmal den Rücken zu kehren. Außerdem reist sie in ihre Wiener Kindheit, ins Pfadfinderlager - und zu ihrem ersten Job als Moderatorin.
This week Robin sat down with Ben Goldhaber, Co-Founder and CEO of Juked. Juked is a new social network for esports fans with the mission of bringing esports fans closer together and removing toxicity from esports communities. Ben was the first gaming hire at Justin.tv, responsible for building out gaming vertical which would go on to become Twitch. While at Twitch, Ben managed partnerships with a variety of esports leagues and events, and also served as director of content marketing. Topics in this weeks episode include how he landed his first role at Justin.tv, his experiences while at Twitch, what inspired him to start Juked, what he values when hiring people onto his teams, and much more. Follow Ben: https://twitter.com/FishStix Check out Juked at https://juked.gg/Robin's Twitter: https://twitter.com/UnderscoreSilky Drew's Twitter: https://twitter.com/dweebggSupport the show (https://cash.app/$dweebez)
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The summer of 2011 proved to be formational for modern esports. Twitch is founded by Justin.TV in June, the first League of Legends Worlds happens in Sweden a few weeks later. The first edition of Dota 2's The International and Call of Duty XP Weekend become the first two esports events to offer prize pools of $1M in August and September. Ben Goldhaber, one of the founding employees of Twitch, was there for it all. On this show, we talk about the ten year anniversary of the launch of Twitch, how the Amazon acquisition affected the company, some of the ways Twitch is coming full circle now compared to the days of Justin.TV and Ben's new company, Juked.GG. Follow Ben on Twitter @Fishstix. Ben's quotes will also be added to a series of articles on nerdstgamers.com. The first article, looking at the top ten games on Twitch for the last ten years is already up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
After two decades, the sun seemed to be setting on Super Smash Bros. Melee. But as one door closed, another opened, this time in the form of Golden Guardians, the esports division of the Golden State Warriors. The Golden Guardians are best known for the org's LCS team but also have invested heavily in NBA 2K and World of Warcraft. In the last few months, Nintendo's Super Smash Bros' Melee has become a new focus for the org. From a grassroots fund to signing a talented roster to hosting events like the Octagon, Golden Guardians are all-in on Melee. With the future of major community tournaments like The Big House in doubt and Melee being removed from EVO, the esport coming up on it's 20th birthday needed someone to step up. In this show, Hunter Leigh, the Head of Esports for Golden Guardians, talks about what the org is doing to support the entire Melee scene. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The full transcription of this show is available below:Mitch Reames Hello and welcome in to loosely scripted a podcast from nerds. for gamers. I'm your host betriebs Today we are talking about Super Smash Bros. Melee. It's one of my favorite games of all time, and it's one of the most iconic games of all time, melee was a dominant esport for well over a decade go belly up or two decades now following the game's release in 2000, and what stars like mango ppmd Mewtwo King Armada, and hungrybox became known as the five Gods plus there was left in the godslayer melee is a true community sport eSports Nintendo was downright absent or even a hindrance towards Bally's. eSports eat at various points over the last two decades. Over the years. Other special titles like brawl is fast for released but never gained much attention compared to melee on the esports side. It wasn't until recently with the release of Super Smash Bros ultimate in 2018. The Smash Bros eSports seed has put a new title in the spotlight the melee is still at all time beloved title and now another organization is stepping in to help support the scene. The Golden guardians the esports affiliate of the NBA Golden State Warriors are investing heavily in melee. In April the golden guardians side none ppmd and tofu contracts. With Zane already signed, the guardians had the largest roster of melee players of any major org. In addition, golden guardians who started a smash bros grassroots fund which is committed 50 grand to grassroots tournament organizers to support Super Smash Bros Melee. In addition to that grassroots fun guardians are also hosted the octagon the first event ran last summer with the rematch between mango and zayde. set for June 5. Today we are talking to hunter Lee head of Esports for golden guardians. Hunter Welcome to the show. Thank you so much happy to be here. Golden guardians flagship team is the League of Legends squad. That's what you guys are best known for. Beyond that you got dog dog, a TFT and a bunch of Warcraft players as well. Why did you and the Guardian is what to invest so much at the melee to make the game the third one with a big investment from the orc.Hunter Leigh Yeah, we did our we started in in League of Legends and we have to Kate team as well. And those were the kind of the more traditionally sports structured eSports that I think felt like a safe investment and sort of more understandable or digestible setup for the warriors to get into. And we were we were looking to expand after kind of getting our feet under us in those two games. We were looking for scenes that were a little bit more open. That would allow us to kind of have a little bit more runway to do our own projects experiment and be creative and and smash was on was on the shortlist at that point. For me, I had sort of run events in the Smash scene before as in my time in eSports, and knew a lot of the people and it seemed like a natural fit. And it just happened that around the same time Zayn was coming up for contract. And we hit it off right away talking to him. And so a year into that about a year later, as we were sort of looking around, okay, we're a year into our initial expansion efforts, what's going well smashed and gone extremely well, even despite COVID Zayn had had had an amazingly strong year and was was looking like the best player in the world. And the engagement from the community was, was as we expected, or maybe even better as we were kind of riding xanes coattails as he made the journey up. And it just made sense to kind of double down where we had seen success. And that really was in the Smash scene. As you stated in the intro, it's with the lack of developer support, or let's just say like an extreme openness from the developer side, you know, it's a natural place for orgs that want to do a little bit more to spend a little bit more time and money. Because there's so much space. So you know, it let us flex a lot of muscles and continue to do a lot of what we had seen success doing the first year was saying just bigger, a bigger and better stuff.Mitch Reames Absolutely. And it was a tide that the bay like community really needed somebody to be like, Hey, we're gonna step up, we're going to invest in this seed. Because it's been a rough couple of years over over the COVID period, it was officially removed from the EVO roster place from ultimate, the big house online was shut down by the tendo with some issues with trying to play it online through emulators and things like that. So as these events are coming down, what do you see the future looking like for the esports scene in the absence of these events that represented sort of the biggest events on the annual Super Smash Bros calendar?Hunter Leigh Yeah, and it's a great question. I do think I think those are, you know, troubling points, certainly in the history and i think i think what really has shown is that, that it's going to be successful despite all of that stuff, in some ways in spite of it or on the back of all of that trauma and difficulty and you know, sort of tough climb, merely just get strong. Right. And I think I think it will continue to do that. So those weren't particularly deterrence for us. I think it's coincidental that we were coming in after that, I think we'd be coming in right now. It did shape I think the nature of our of our expanded efforts. But to be honest, even if the scene still had those major tent poles, you know, going strong, I think the what were the work we're going to look to do on the grassroot side would be would be just as important. Even in that case, so you know, I think when when we were looking and talking to Zane around, okay, we want we want to expand here and we want to do more, what should we What should we do? I think it I think it helped clarify how to expand that, that some of those things that happen. But they weren't warranted to turn by any means for us.Mitch Reames You mentioned the tenacity of the Smash community, in a sense that what door will close it has closed over the last few decades. And then another one has opened, somebody else has stepped up. But like, No, we love this game. We're going to support it. It seems like with those big Doors closing, you are one of the doors that is now opening, is that something that you're really hoping to do for this fast community be like, okay, hey, we might not have those events, but we're gonna invest we're gonna create things like the octagon, for example, that given time, could that become an event? Sort of like that? Was that one of the goals for you like, okay, it's just a basket of petard here from, from one institution to to now we're gonna take that?Hunter Leigh I think so. I think so. I don't know if I think about it quite that in that sense that the big house goes down, you know, we're going to step in and fill that void, or we're going to build the next the octagon will be the next Ebo suddenly, by next year, I think, I think the health of most scenes is in its floor. And that is what makes the you know, the Smash scene so strong is that the floor, the grassroots scene is so strong. It's something that's built word of mouth, at these tiny in person events, and things grew up from there. And I think that the fighting game scene in general kind of tendency to, you know, the bulk of attendees at an event or people who play the game passionate themselves often are competing, technically sort of competing in the giant open bracket, draw whatever for the event itself. I think that that's sort of unrivaled. Most people who attend League of Legends, events play League of Legends, but they're not playing in that league of legends event in the same way. And the investment that comes with that the accessibility, the interactivity of the pros, the way it is often just like people standing around a CRT, right, they're really just like, it's a community in a very physical sense. And that is the strength of the machine. And I don't think our our role in this is to take over any part of it, where we're trying to be additive to this step, you know, sort of, from the beginning, and those were one of the four pillars that we kind of built this expansion on one, find, find some amazing people support them, let them do what they do bigger and better and, you know, accomplish their dreams in the space to put them together and see if we can make something that comes out of the you know, sort of the synergy of these personalities coming together is is really unique and interesting and make some content out of that. Three, have some events that that you know, sort of check some unique boxes in the space. And I think the next octagon, octagon will do that. And I think slippy and some of the stuff we can do creatively in the online version of the game, you know that that's come out of COVID. And in a more serious way, I think it's really interesting. And there's a lot of customization and other stuff that you've seen the trailers that that you'll see at the event itself that I think is that is really exciting. And then for I think the grassroots fund return and get back to the, you know, to the bottom of the of the scene, the funnel that is making all of this so, so strong in the beginning. So I don't think it's our role to take anyone else's place, or to try to replicate something that was there before. I think it's to add to what was already there, and maybe try to pave the ground for some new stuff that people haven't seen before.Mitch Reames Absolutely. I love that. And I think it's you know, I want to ask about each of those individual things that you put forward following up on the article, but I do want to talk about slippy is sort of the online play at how that's opening up and that the grassroots fraud as well because that's I got chills as you're talking about standard route a CRT monitor and play because I don't think I'd be sitting in this chair doing this podcast without attending events like that back in like the 2011 2012 2013 rage really was one of my bursts of of Esports in general. But at octagon two, which is coming up on June 5. The influences pretty clear what this is going to be like it's like a price fight. It's an octagon so us fees, you UFC seems like a natural influence here. Why don't you guys feel like that type of format makes sense for balay where you to put two of the game's biggest stars head to head and really bill it like a prize fight.Hunter Leigh I think the sort of grudge match history within fighting games is something that we wanted to lean on when we were coming But the first octagon last year, and I think Remote Play, it was just going to be really hard to see your you know, especially in the early days where it felt like the west coast in the East Coast might be strongly bifurcated. And in online play, the idea that you might not see Zane versus mango, or, you know, pick your favorite East Coast player must go play or play play each other for a year or two, or who knew, you know, I mean, we really had no idea what we were getting into, and all of that, that seemed like a natural way to try to do something different and interesting. And I think Zane and mango have always, you know, had this kind of rivalry or budding rivalry that that has just continued to grow as they've been, you know, two of the best players performing and all these online tournaments. So we wanted to double down on that when we came up with the octagon last year, I think, extending that into this year, you know, feeling like this kind of prize fight structure, somewhat in the art style, which I think has been incredibly successful in the team has done a great job to sort of old school boxing style, I think moving that forward. Again, I think, taking a bit of a cheekier tone to it this year, and in the animations and stuff that the team has come up with, I think in general, all of that is just resonated fighting games are fighting it is price fighting, all of it is fighting for money, it's digital fighting for money, and there's, you know, there's, there's, it is different, but I think all the intensity and passion of of going get somebody that you know, is going to be an incredible match for you and seeing whether, you know, it's the young upstart, taking down the the old guard, or the old guard, standing strong and casting somebody back down to earth or whatever. I mean, I think this the stories are as old as time. And this is just, this is just the sort of smashed version of them. So, you know, for this one, I think having more personalities in house to, you know, throw more directly into the competition. And, and sort of take on, you know, the golden guardians mantle went a different way, I think, I think just ups the stakes for everybody.Mitch Reames I love it, because smash is one of those games that has those people, those old gods, the people that can sort of be the challenger, the champion, versus the challenger in the sense that we see in boxing in it. And in UFC so often it's so think that's really cool. You mentioned the regional rivalry, something else that's pretty unique to melee was the location based ranking systems, which really offer this complex path to pro as people climbed. Hey, there's 16, the Nor Cal, and there, you have this, nor caliber, So Cal rivalry or the Ontario or Michigan or wherever you want to be you have this ranking list of the best melee players and I don't know any other esport that could say that most have a right bladder that exists, but not that location based kind of thing do to really the older nature of melee. Now you guys are introducing this grassroots fund, how do you hope that will help keep those systems running those location based regional tournaments that helped create rankings of the best players in Washington and the best players of Texas and the best players in all these different states around the US? Yeah, soHunter Leigh the core assumptions is that, you know, this competitive structure, that kind of path to pro or competitive crucible that starts with people just playing in their dorm rooms, or you know, with their friends after school, or whatever, you know, is really strong. And it honestly, it's the kind of system that most other eSports should be envious of. Because it takes this like deeply social element of like playing games on the couch with your friends, and actually starts them directly into a funnel that can lead up to professional play, and it still has actually produces results regularly where someone like Zayn can go in a relatively short amount of time from playing in college to being one of the best players in the world. most traditional eSports the big successful ones League of Legends, etc, have left that phase of their sort of talent development behind a long time ago, and are actually looking to replicate it in some form in this like larger, higher stakes, you know, bigger money way. So I feel like that structure is kind of there regardless. But I we do hope that a little bit of money just to keep things flowing along the way can go a long way and kind of greasing the wheels and making that easier for everybody. You know, again, as with everything, there's no, there's no interest or attempt to kind of put our stamp on what's happening at a local level by on those kinds of doing great work, like everybody around the country is doing amazing work and some region is stronger than others, there's sort of rise and fall over time and like where the talent is coming from, well, we just want to be there helping all of those people continue to do what they do and see if we can help make things a little bit better. So you know, we put we committed $50,000 to the fund. We're not looking to drop that in 510 $1,000 chunks on, you know, the Texas region and just sort of come in and flood one event with something we really we really looked to dole it out and $500,000 you know, maybe 15 $100 for some bigger regional events support thing and just help people in market Efforts prize pool, you know, sort of, sometimes it's going to be literal logistics of the event, getting space getting equipment of one kind or another or, you know, working with an artist or other people to help promote, you know, online, getting getting your twitch stuff set up, whatever, whatever that might look like, we're gonna, we're gonna trust those people at the local level to know how that money is going to best serve them and just look to step in and help where we can.Mitch Reames I think that's ideal in so many ways, where it's those types of regional tournaments are difficult to organize. And usually it is a small amount, not a relatively small amount of money that sort of is the barrier there between, hey, we've got a bunch of people who want to organize this heard of it, but oh, well, we have to get this, we have to get that and just grease the wheels a little bit to be like, Oh, we can tap into 500 bucks here or grad that'll help you know, put up a prize pool, make sure we get everything we do make sure we get the space that we need for it. You know, it's those kinds of things that people don't think about at this age of massive eSports events that still are what makes so many eSports scenes go round, and especially melee game that has so many routes to these regional players. I played a tournament back in University of Oregon, like dorm room, not not a dorm room, it was like a conference room on the campus. And the top prize is a $50 gift card to the yo duck store. And yes, and it was one of my favorite things ever. First of all, because I was able to compete because I'm not good enough at any other eSports actually compete. But if that's the kind of thing to write, think about what it takes to put that on. It's not much, but it brings all these people together. And if it if they didn't have just a couple $100 here and there, that event wouldn't have been possible, probably.Hunter Leigh Yeah. And I think people get like, people get hooked into eSports. And I think we all know this from our, from our years doing it in this small thing where they did something with a friend, and they want a game, maybe they didn't think they were gonna win or whatever. And they're just like, this is the greatest thing ever. I'm going to do this for the rest of my life, you know, one way or another. And I do think those kind of like, dorm media room sessions are exactly that. And if we can make sure that the pizza is there, and it's hot, and that gets like four or five extra people and one of those people is like yes, I am now going to play smash for the rest of my life and becomes the next Dane or mango or whoever, like I think that success I it doesn't have to be transformative things that that take that college event into something that's never been before. I mean, that's fine. We're not against that by any means. But the simple things can go a long way in making events successful and a little money can do can help do that.Mitch Reames Absolutely, absolutely. I think my dorm room was the like, unofficial tournament stopped by dorm room was just opened it was on the TV. All the time is either fascist or NFL street at all times on my GameCube. But it was just a rotating cast of people covered it tried to challenge people would come in from other floors or other friend groups who thought they were the best, it was great. So I have a special place in my heart for that type of like grassroots especially melee organizing. Not that I did anything really official, but it's just fun to bring people together in a game that almost everyone has played, which makes baileigh unique as well is that it's this game that everybody has some history with it, whether it's just Kirby dow being like playing as a kid or if it's actually getting good with a specific character or trying out unique strategies, developing them with your friend group. And so I've always loved that about about melee, in particular is that anybody can pick it up, and they probably have some sort of history with the game.Hunter Leigh And I think that's that spirit is the I think the energy that's behind the YouTube channel that we put together and the content that's going on there, which is I think this can get lost sometimes in eSports, as well. And, you know, again, not to be overly critical of the bigger scenes or whatever, but i think i think there can be an effort in general in eSports you know, especially with the aspirational name to try to say that this is serious business and it's serious people and it shouldn't be dismissed or laughed at or whatever. And that that I think desire for credibility which is totally natural in this especially as people are putting more and more money in can sometimes take away the fun and we want them the YouTube channel to remind everybody and and sort of celebrate the fun of smash which is this crazy chaotic game, leveraging these characters that we've all been playing since we were very little in this often quite silly and strange way and that community has come up with tons of for fun game modes and other things and there's this rich history to draw on and I think eSports should be fun. I think all of this should be fun. I think that was when I you know was first talking to Zane and then when we were talking to Zane about who else to bring in that kind of core element. We want people who aren't afraid to be silly or you know who are having fun with all of it and and have built a community around themselves that sort of is you know, is sort of celebrating the the fun, the fun side of this stuff that We're looking for that. That's what the YouTube channel I think best embodies. And the goal of it is to, is to bring these great people together and have fun. And I think that comes from, you know, the sort of thing that we were all doing as we were kids with characters that we all know from when we were kids. And I just like spinning in circles is link like, it's not a good strategy. But I really like doing it. It just it's very satisfying for me. And you know, that is at the core of my love for the game and one sense it's just spinning in circles and whacking people as far away as like,Mitch Reames the doubt throw into up be on the ground is one of my all time all time favorite boobs just just so much fun. It's actually a very nice segue, because there was this pretty famous interaction. I don't want to do a direct quote, but it was back around 2008, the 2012 I think Nintendo COVID. It was like, hey, people are plagues Smash Bros Melee in a way that we didn't intend. It's so competitive. It's sucking the fun out of it. I thought that was kind of a again, that's a paraphrase of the actual quote that came for Nintendo. But it was kind of something i thought was broad in some senses, which is that people love playing Smash Bros competitively, because they had so much fun playing the game. You don't you don't play a game for 10,000 hours because you're not having fun at it. And so it's just the people that took it to this last agreed Yeah, there are people play the game that the developers didn't attend, they created a really complex esport but they probably were attending a casual party game. And it's that's kind of that dichotomy of like fun versus competition was sort of at the core of the Nintendo's Smash Bros eSports. relationship and battle at times. As a tournament organizer, how is it navigating that relationship with Nintendo now two decades on, they're now investigate ultimate, and they seem to be investing more heavily in the ultimate eSports scene, but still sort of leaving melee by the wayside here and there. So how is that navigating that relationship with Nintendo? Yeah, um,Hunter Leigh I don't want to get into too many specifics. But I but I will say is that I think that characterization that they're leaving melee by the wayside, I think that can sound negative. And I think what the community has has proven is that that's actually maybe the strength of the melee scene is that is that in the absence of a top down direction for this is what you know, Meili eSports should look like and we mean in in a serious way, and Nintendo is going to put their stamp all over it, or any developer is going to put their stamp all over it, the community has sort of been able to decide what they want it to be organically. And the rich history that comes out of this continues to define what smash is going to look like going forward. And frankly, probably influences ultimate more than ultimate wishes, that it did in a lot of ways, not just because people move back and forth between the scene or our, I think there's always a lot of attention to read, do you want to be in the more official, you know, officially recognized and supported esport are not, but just that these characters have, you know, the, literally the champions within the game, right, have a rich competitive history already, that is going to be sort of subconsciously influencing everything that happens in the new generation. And so I think in the absence of, you know, a top down tone, or direction that's coming from, from Nintendo itself, the community gets to decide and that lets soon sort of silly things happen in a lot of ways that are still competitive at its core. So for the octagon, you know, we're flying mango to Tuesday's house, they're actually going to play in Jane's basement, just like you would with your friend that you invited over after school, whether you love them or hate them, or somewhere in between. and it you know, it is kind of this, this tremendous, you know, sort of combination of old school tech and CRTs. And I think Zane has been talking about folding chairs, I don't know, if they'll literally be folded, you know, something that feels really retro, you know, that is now streamed across, you know, across the country, and combined. And it is that exact, you know, sort of jump between this kind of old school physical thing that was happening into this digital product that everybody can consume, from wherever we are that that is, I think what makes smash truly special, and for the Warriors, building a new stadium, you know, a basketball product that is also trying to do the same thing or already has and want to learn about, that's exactly what they're excited about. Not just in Smash, but in eSports, but especially in Smash, how do you take this physical thing and digitize it and make it somehow even better than it would be, you know, in the room in this product that's going out everywhere? How do you you know, bring people into that space or whatever. And yet saints basement, you know, on Saturday, and we'll see what that looks like. And I trust him to make that something and we'll see. But you know, it's Evo or these other events. That's Genesis, you know, this amazing event with this huge crowd. You know, I think I think Nintendo doesn't have to tell us or tell that tell the Smash community, what smash should look like i think i think the community knows they've proven at this point that that's something that people want.Mitch Reames Yeah, you make a really good point is this fast beauty for years was like, hey, well, we'll take this, you don't have to do anything. But also don't put roadblocks in our way. Don't step in and pull this away or try and try and do these other things. So that's, you know, I think just an absence, there's is the best case scenario for melee at this point. So final question for you, I know you got to run. We're talking about this new online age of playing melee. So the big house on lie gets shut down because of a mod because you can't play GameCube games offline. So they are playing slipping you with a dolphin emulator or something. I actually haven't looked into that too, too deep yet. So I get why the tendo has to step in there. But do you feel like there's a different solution or something that's in the works right now, where we're fighting this way to play melee online, and the tendo is gonna be okay with it either with Nintendo stamp of approval on it or just that stopping off? Is there a way that we can play competitive melee online going forward without the worry of Nintendo? stepping it?Hunter Leigh I don't know, is the short answer. My guess is that worry will always kind of be there. I think it's, you know, it in some ways, it is core to the to the Smash scene at this point in the melee scene at this point is that there is that that fear? And I don't expect that that's going to go away anytime soon. And I think it speaks to maybe one of the larger concerns is that a lot of people look at smash and are worried about what it is. And you know, without Nintendo's blessing, what what it isn't as a result, and all I would say is that what I think with the last year's proved is that we would do far better to look at what the melee scene is instead. And what it is is thriving, and strong and super resilient. And that's not going away anytime soon. And I don't think it needs this specific online solution or, you know, some other tech solution that might result or whatever i think i think you know, what we're doing right now is flourishing, I think Nintendo's probably happy enough with it, that they're not that they're not doing anything about it and that that's successful for everybody. So, you know, I think Nintendo has its own reasons for pushing ultimate. That makes a lot of sense if you're Nintendo when you know, who am I to tell them how to how to do what they do. But I think what the music scene has shown is that, that that resiliency is here to stay and it will find a way to continue to thrive regardless of what exactly the exact mechanisms that are needed right now to compete are.Mitch Reames absolutely absolutely the Malay seed is not going away. They're a beautiful community and they're not going to let this game die and with places like golden guardians stepping in, to help out help grease the wheels help make sure the melee community has those resources they need to keep on going. We appreciate golden guardians and thank you hunter for coming on the show. This was a pleasure I hope you all enjoyed this podcast Be sure to check out the oxygen God to odd Jude fifth. If you catch that broadcast hunter anything else you want people to know about how to watch octagon to what they should be looking out for.Hunter Leigh Yeah, check out our twitch channel that's where everything will be. We're super excited about the event. You know, hint hint, there's gonna be an octagon three and an octagon four and other things after that, you know, but we're really excited about this one and and we have a great lineup and I'm really excited. ppmd is going to be casting, it's going to be casting nuns playing xanes playing. It really is the best of you know what we've assembled here on display with the brightest lights,Mitch Reames beautiful, beautiful, so many amazing names so many amazing stars in the Smash melee scene and they're going to be competing at the octagon out a format that really makes so much sense for where melee is. I hope y'all enjoyed this podcast if you want more content like this just the second podcast I've hosted for nursery gamers. But last one was with Emily we talked about women it gave me the differences between Riot at Valve in the valerate and CSGO sphere, things like that. 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Chris Ovitz is the Co-Founder and President of OK Play. We discuss growing up in a Hollywood family, building technology-enabled media companies, life revelations during an Alabama roadtrip, "humble magnetism", launching a venture fund with the co-founder of Twitter, YouTube as a babysitter, and why the future of play is putting kids at the center of story and creation.Subscribe to our newsletter. We explore the intersection of media, technology, and commerce: sign-up linkLearn more about our market research and executive advisory: RockWater websiteListen to our weekly executive insights on Media x Commerce news: Mondays at 2pm PT on Clubhouse via @chriserwinFollow The Come Up on Twitter: @TCUpodEmail us: tcupod@wearerockwater.com---EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:Chris Erwin:Hi, I'm Chris Erwin. Welcome to The Come Up, a podcast that interviews entrepreneurs and leaders. Chris Ovitz:There's so much guilt in general for parents, and then there's all this judgment around screen time. And I think that we forget in our little bubbles, the whole no screens thing is a privilege, that YouTube is a babysitter is real, and it's a problem. Chris Erwin:This week's episode features Chris Ovitz, the co-founder and President of OK Play. Chris grew up in LA. And like so many others, his first love was film. So he went to a Hollywood studio, but soon after, Chris became enamored with the intersection of entertainment and technology. Over the past decade, Chris has founded a handful of different companies. And most recently, him and his team are building OK Play where they're reimagining screen time for kids, and putting kids at the center of story and creation. We get into a lot of things in this episode, but a few highlights include what it's like growing up in a deeply connected Hollywood family, some life revelations during an Alabama road trip, his humble approach to building teams, and most recently, helping to launch a venture fund with Biz Stone, co-founder of Twitter. All right, this episode was a lot of fun. And Chris weaves in some pretty wild stories from his early career. Let's get into it. Chris Erwin:Let's dive back in time a little bit. Why don't you tell me about where you grew up and your childhood a little bit? Chris Ovitz:I grew up in LA. My mom and dad are both from LA. They went to UCLA. They met there. Pretty normal childhood in LA, as normal as it can be growing up in LA, lots of after school sports and just hanging out with friends, skateboarding and roller hockey and football and all sorts of stuff like that, lots of video games and film in my family. And it was a pretty traditional childhood. Chris Erwin:Okay, you are a skater as well. I was a skater growing up, I played some soccer and tennis. And then when I started hurting my ankle skateboarding, my coaches were like, "All right, that's it. Enough for you." Chris Ovitz:You were probably a much better skater than I was. I never actually got good at it. But I loved it. Yeah, I definitely spent a lot more time playing, baseball was my sport. So I played a lot of baseball growing up. Chris Erwin:Okay, cool. You mentioned that you were passionate for gaming and for film. Were there any games that you liked the most? Chris Ovitz:So I was about 15 when PlayStation 1 came out so I think that was probably the core part of my childhood gaming love and I would say Final Fantasy VII, Resident Evil. Earlier than that, I played really Super Bomberman and Mario Kart on the SNES, lots of Street Fighter, things like that. Chris Erwin:Yeah, I remember Street Fighter 2 with like Ken and Ryu and Hadouken and all that. I was like, that was a real favorite for me. Yeah, I also like being Zangief, the Russian wrestler, whatever. Chris Ovitz:Funny story, I always played as Ken Masters. And that was the name on my fake ID in high school, so yeah. Chris Erwin:Your father was in the entertainment industry. I don't know if your mother was in the entertainment industry as well. But was there any kind of like inspiration for you of the path that you want to go down as you were thinking about going to school, before you went to Brown and UCLA? Chris Ovitz:So yeah, my father was in entertainment. He started a company called Creative Artists Agency, which was one of the biggest agencies around and so it was amazing to watch and to be around. And I always thought that that was kind of the path for me. But as I got older in high school, and he had left CAA to do other stuff, he kind of left me with this big question mark on what I wanted to do. And I was like, I didn't really know what my passions were. Chris Ovitz:And so it started me on my journey. And my journey from about 18 through my late 20s was kind of a bit all over the place, but I wouldn't be who I am today without it. And my father was incredibly talented pioneer and many things in entertainment. And had I been a little more mature at 18, I think I would have realized that he was probably right, and it was best for me. So I ended up, I was fortunate enough to be accepted to Brown University. That's where he wanted me to go. I always wanted to go to UCLA because it was what I knew. Brown was amazing. I have incredible friends there. I learned a lot there. But I ended up transferring back to UCLA. I told myself that was where I wanted to go, but if I'm being honest, it was probably because I wanted to see about a girl. Chris Erwin:Okay, did you transfer like your sophomore junior year? When did you go over? Chris Ovitz:I transferred my sophomore year. So I did a year, Brown my freshman year, and then started at UCLA my sophomore year. Chris Erwin:And was UCLA what you had hoped it was going to be? Were you pumped to be there? Chris Ovitz:Yeah, it was amazing. UCLA is a great school. I had a blast. I was a history major. I just loved learning about different cultures and I studied a lot of Roman, ancient Rome and medieval history that I found that fascinating. Chris Erwin:When we were talking earlier, you said that there was some poor decisions were a pattern of your youth. So, I mean, do you bucket in like going to Brown and then going to UCLA as part of that or are you referencing something else? I'm very curious there. Chris Ovitz:For decisions, I say that a bit jokingly. But I think what I mean by that is Brown is an incredible school, and everyone would kill to be able to go there. And had I stayed there, I think it would have been amazing. But look, I was motivated by girls at that age, instead of being motivated by a passion for what I wanted to do with my life. So I think that's kind of what I did, whether it was transferring to UCLA because I had a girlfriend there at the time that I had met on winter break from Brown. I would make decisions like that, without thinking too far ahead. And I think as I got older, that's not happening. You start to think through each decision with a little more thought for the future. Chris Erwin:Well look, if there's any point in your life when you're going to be a little bit impulsive, doing that in your teens and early 20s, that's a good thing. Get that out of your system, and I would also say that having a little bit of impulse ability, or whatever the right word is, as you get older, versus not having to be so calculated all the time based on societal pressures, that's okay. Okay, so you transfer to UCLA, you graduate, and then how do you kick off your career? What type of work do you start getting into? Chris Ovitz:So again, it comes back to this really not knowing what my path was yet, not knowing what I wanted to do. I knew I loved film. The entertainment industry was in my DNA. And I knew that I wanted to be a part of it in some way, at least at that point in my life. And so I actually applied to film school. I didn't tell anyone in my family. I applied to the theater, film and television program at UCLA. I decided I was only going to tell them if I got in. I ended up getting in and had an idea that I thought I wanted to be a director. And after about a year in film school, I realized I didn't want to be a struggling artist. So I dropped out and I wanted the income. I wanted to get to work. Unfortunately, at the time, I also had suffered a really bad herniated disc and had to take some time to get a pretty significant back surgery to correct that and rehab it. And at that point, I decided to take a job. It was pretty awesome. I got the opportunity to be one of the first employees as an assistant at Paramount Vantage working for a guy named John Lesher, and that was my first real job out of college. It was an incredible experience. Chris Erwin:Awesome. And what was Paramount Vantage? Chris Ovitz:Backing up a second, John Lesher was an agent at Endeavor at the time before it was WME, and he represented clients like Scorsese and Judd Apatow and Alejandro Inarritu and all these amazing filmmakers. And he was asked to go over and run Paramount Classics, which was Paramount's independent film arm, and he was asked to rebrand it and basically start their new art house film division. I got to see him build it from the ground up. And I got to see him go through the process of building the brand, picking the brand, naming it, designing it. And there I got to really learn how important a talented team was. He had gone out and just picked the best in the industry. And then I got to watch as all these projects came together that went on to be some Academy Award winning films and really well highly, highly acclaimed films. While I was there, we were developing No Country for Old Men, There Will be Blood, all these really exciting films. But mostly, I drove the golf cart around for the most part. Chris Erwin:What a great experience I feel like right out of undergrad, and it seems that you also have some really great stories from working there about Kanye West and Judd Apatow and a few others. So please do share. Chris Ovitz:Yeah, I mean and the Kanye one's probably less interesting, but just funny. I remember him coming in for a meeting, I had to pick him in his entourage up in the golf cart and make multiple trips. And he told me he was hungry. And he asked what was on the menu, and so I had to go get him the menu from the commissary and he said he was really in the mood for grilled salmon. And so I got him some grilled salmon and brought it into the meeting and my boss was like, "What are you doing?" I was like, "Kanye wanted some food. Here it is.", and he shoo-ed me out of the office. And then the Judd Apatow story, backing up a bit. Jonah Hill was actually, before he was Jonah Hill, when he was Jonah Feldstein was in my student film at UCLA because I knew him from growing up in LA. Chris Ovitz:And Judd Apatow had come in to pitch his latest project. And I had read the script because that was one of the perks of working there. I got to be on the weekend read team and give my opinion on the scripts that they were reading. And I told Judd, and Judd had no idea who I was. I was just a kid driving a golf cart. And I said, "You need to make Jonah Hill the lead in this project." And so I'd like to think that I'm responsible for Jonah ending up in Superbad, which is probably not true. But it was funny because I was the only one, it turned out Vantage at the time, that thought we should make that movie. And so my boss John was like, "Well, if you like it so much, go and write a letter to the heads of the studio on why we should buy this film." And I did. And I was like, "This is the greatest thing ever." Chris Erwin:Hold on a second, you wrote a letter to the head of the studio for why they should buy the film Superbad. Chris Ovitz:Exactly, yes. Chris Erwin:Okay, what did you say in that letter? Chris Ovitz:I just explained why I thought it was going to be a hit. It was a very genuine, authentic letter from a nobody assistant at Paramount Vantage. But my boss respected my opinion. And he sent it to Brad Grey, who knew me and Brad was the CEO at the time. He was just a fabulous, fabulous guy, unfortunately passed away a few years ago. And they appreciated it. But they passed and it actually ended up being Warner Bros.' biggest hit that next summer. So that's my little claim to fame and moment I'm most proud of in my first job. Chris Erwin:That's an amazing story. I love coming of age movies, and Superbad is definitely very high on the list. Chris Ovitz:Yeah, I was obsessed. It was so well written, so funny. Seth Rogen, he was coming up, but he wasn't established at that point. It was a really fun read. And I was really happy to see that Jonah got cast in that part. Again, I'm pretty sure that was because of me. Chris Erwin:So that's an amazing experience. But I think you realized that entertainment wasn't for you. And you kind of changed your career trajectory a little bit. So what happens next after that? Chris Ovitz:So I think I wanted to do something that was a little more meaningful. Traditional entertainment was fine. I love stories. I think one of the reasons I started thinking about moving away, I didn't like the behavior and entertainment. There was just a lot of yelling, a lot of disrespect. It's one of the last industries where there's a true apprenticeship, which I do like about it. But everyone was kind of becoming bad Xerox copies of the bosses they had before them, and just picking up bad habits. And so there were all these things that were accepted that I didn't like, like yelling at your employees. Chris Ovitz:And so that got me starting to think about what was next. And I was fortunate enough to get hired to run business development at a early virtual world company. And this was really interesting to me, because I always loved building communities and connecting people. And this opportunity played into that in a big way, because you would, this is by the way, in about late 2005, early 2006. And we built this virtual world where you could go to virtual host virtual parties and screenings and shows, and so I was producing virtual concerts with artists like Maroon 5 and the Pussycat Dolls, Kenna. We'd set up virtual storefronts. And this is all before things like Oculus. So it was, way ahead of its time, and a lot of fun. But ultimately, it ended up being like World of Warcraft with nothing to do. It didn't really work out. But it was fun, because we were doing things like I don't know if you saw what Fortnite did with Travis Scott and other artists, these big virtual concerts. Chris Erwin:Yeah, Marshmallow and all that taking off. Chris Ovitz:Exactly. But we were doing stuff like that in 2006 at a much, much smaller scale. Chris Erwin:You mentioned how you got the job, there's a unique story behind that, right? Chris Ovitz:Yeah, so my father was quite influential, obviously. And he knew my boss at Paramount. He'd call me. He's like, "Hey, I got to borrow my son for the day." And I was like, "Sure." And so I go and fly up with my father to a couple meetings in San Francisco. My father liked to invest in tech. And he knew that I had a strong opinion about games and tech and digital media. And so he wanted me to sit in on a couple of these meetings and give my opinion. And as we're arriving at this meeting at this particular company, which at the time, it was called Doppelganger, we later changed our name to vSide, rocking small startup, only about 20 people, everyone's in the room, and they're about to make this big presentation to my father. And he's like, "I want you to observe, and then give me your opinion after Do not talk." And so of course, I talked the whole time, like, "You need to do this. I can introduce you to this person. I can help with that." I walked out of the meeting with a job offer, which was awesome. And so ultimately, my dad was happy, but he looked mortified the entire meeting. Chris Erwin:Were you intentional that you wanted to speak? Was that like acting out against your father? Or did it just naturally come up? Chris Ovitz:No, that was just because I can never keep my mouth shut. Chris Erwin:So then, right after that, we're going down this journey where you become a serial entrepreneur, I think in a few years, which we'll get to, I think a major stepping stone to that was that you went to go work at Adly, which was founded by Sean Rad, who became the founder of Tinder. So what was Adly, and what were you doing there? Chris Ovitz:Yeah, so Adly was one of the first companies to monetize the social streams for influencers, so getting Kim Kardashian to tweet on behalf of a brand. And they were pretty much the pioneer in that space. And so I knew I wanted to work in tech, but I didn't want to be in SF. The city unfortunately just wasn't for me. And I really liked my life in LA. And I was probably onto something because everyone seems to want to move down here now from up there or to Miami it seems now as of last week. Like you said, I met Sean through Dana Settle from Greycroft, who was a friend and she suggested that we think about working together, and we hit it off. And Sean's brilliant, and I was inspired by him. He's a young entrepreneur built with big, big ideas. Chris Ovitz:Obviously, I was right, in seeing something and then he moved and went on to start Tinder. But unfortunately, when we were at Adly, Facebook and Twitter weren't too excited about us monetizing their social feeds. It was ahead of its time a little bit as well. We got blocked. And that's kind of when everyone saw the writing on the wall. So after just about 10 months, that's when I departed and was lucky enough to meet my current co-founder and my co-founder of Viddy in JJ. He took a chance on me and invited me to co-found Viddy with him. And that's where my journey really gained some traction. Chris Erwin:I remember the days of when the large social platforms and tech incumbents were blocking their peers. So yeah, at Big Frame, we have built like a programmatic marketplace where our different influencer and talent clients could promote one another. YouTube shut off access to their API very quickly once they figured out what we were doing. So I definitely get the challenges there. Chris Erwin:So after this stint in Adly, but it seems like you had made the transition from like a pure play entertainment studio industry, now going into kind of like tech that's like tech talent, intersection with media as well and social. And were you feeling at this point like, "Yes, this is the path that I want to be on, that this feels much more right than where I was before this"? Chris Ovitz:Definitely. I realized that I think at that point, I realized I wanted to be an entrepreneur. I watched guys like Sean, and I was like, there's no reason I can't do this. I love creating things from scratch. I had some unfair advantages built in in the network that I had acquired and had built. I realized pretty early on that I was really good at surrounding myself with people much smarter than me, much more talented than me. And I realized that talent was everything. Chris Ovitz:I use my network to almost be an agent for the businesses that I was building or involved in. And I was able to do that at Viddy in a big way. I saw that we had something. I saw that we had a product that had market fit. It worked. JJ is one of the best product designers I've ever had the pleasure of working with. And he built a beautiful Instagram for video type product at just the right time, when everyone was craving that, when investors were craving that type of product. We met in the end of 2010. And then basically January 2011, we were starting to work on it and then we launched in April of 2011. And that's literally when Flip Cam, if you remember those handheld camcorders, they shut down in April, and we launched in April. And so it was kind of like with the death of Flip Cam was the rise of Viddy and the social mobile video wars, by the way, like our biggest competitor was Socialcam, which was started by the Justin TV guys, which ultimately became Twitch. And it was just an all out like bloodbath between us and Socialcam seeing who could grow the fastest, wild ride, wild west, extremely interesting time to be in the video space. Chris Erwin:So being a first time entrepreneur, what kind of caught you off guard or by surprise in that first experience, in going through those motions? Chris Ovitz:Once you're a founder, it's a very lonely, lonely job. And so just dealing with the emotions of the roller coaster that it is, like video ultimately was only two and a half years of my life, but it felt like 10, and so the ups and the downs. And then I think realizing how quickly you can grow something by leveraging the power of your network. We went from zero to 50 million users in a year, granted a lot of that growth came off the back of Facebook and Open Graph. Us in social can have the benefit of that. But we were the first video app to have access to Open Graph. And that was because of a relationship that we had, just shows the power of relationships and how you can use those relationships to grow things. Chris Erwin:Yeah. You mentioned that when you were at Adly, and you saw, you observed Sean, you're like, "Oh, Sean is founding these companies.", you felt empowered that you could do the same. And you felt that you had this powerful network, you had good energy to bring to the table and a certain skill set, but also awareness of what skills he didn't have. Being at Viddy, did you observe skills that you're like, "Hey, for my serial entrepreneur career to continuously progress, here's something that I really want to work on."? Chris Ovitz:You know, it's funny. Things that I really want to work on, I think what Viddy taught me was actually to focus on my strengths and not my weaknesses. So many people say you should, I just read a quote about Tom Brady, sorry to change the subject. But talking about how he's achieved the level of success that he has. One of his big tenets is focus on your weaknesses. And I used to do that too much. And so I think at Viddy, working with the team there, I realized that everyone was so good at what they did. If I was focusing on my weaknesses, there was always somebody that was going to do it better, be able to do that better. And so I spent my time focusing on my strengths. And that's when I think good things really started to happen. That was probably my biggest learning at Viddy. Chris Erwin:I agree with that very much, Chris. It's a lot easier to go from good to great versus going from bad to good. And as a leader, I think strong self awareness is really critical in saying, "Okay, here's where I'm good, here's where I'm not." But your job is to build a team, to resource a team, to build towards the bigger vision that the company has. And I have learned that there's a lot less friction, you can move a lot faster. And also just build a team where people are more complimentary and happy coming to work every day with that mindset, going from good to great. Chris Ovitz:Yeah, no, I absolutely agree. Chris Erwin:So Viddy though, you do end up selling to Fullscreen, is that right? Chris Ovitz:We did, yeah. So we were acquired by Fullscreen. In full transparency, I left before the acquisition because it was quite a roller coaster ride, and I was ready to move on and to figure out what's next. But we had built a relationship with George, the CEO and founder of Fullscreen early on. He was a friend, and we were always trying to find ways to partner together. So when things got tough at Viddy, it was just a natural home for the company. They had SVOD ambitions, and we had one of the most talented product and engineering teams around with expertise in video. So it was a no brainer. And as I said, I wanted to move on to what was next and I was pretty burnt out from that roller coaster. And at one point, we were the number one app in 49 countries. And then one day we weren't. And so I was just ready. I was ready for what was next. But it was great. Look, JJ went on to be the Chief Product Officer of Fullscreen. And Ken, our CTO went on to run their engineering team. But unfortunately, actually I'm working with them again today, which is really, really awesome. But we can come back to that. Chris Erwin:I think Fullscreen leveraged your technology to launch a streaming service, I think three to four years back. I remember that because I think there was like a lot of different Fullscreen talent clients are on it. And I think they also were licensing Friends and maybe Seinfeld. It was an interesting juxtaposition of content. But I think everyone's been learning what users actually want and don't want over the past half decade. All right, so after that, you do end up starting another company called Workpop, but you did a brief stint at Scopely. What was that pathway like? I think you said you were scratching this gamer itch that maybe you had but led quickly to something else, curious to the journey there. Chris Ovitz:Look, I always had the gamer itch and I'm always going to have the gamer itch. I love games and anything related to games. And the Scopely thing was interesting because I had promised myself since I was burnt out, I was going to take some time to recharge. But I was having lunch with a friend of mine who was at Scopely. And he was telling me how great it was. And they were going after all these big licenses. And frankly, it just sounded fun. And he was like, "Why don't you come join us?" At the time, they were still small, 50 or 60 people. And they had just come off this big hit for them, Mini Golf Madness, which I had kind of fun playing. And I also knew Walter Driver pretty well from back in the day. And I knew Eytan as well. They're the founders. And I figured that it would be a really fun place to go and join until I decided what was next. Chris Ovitz:Unfortunately, in a twist of fate, unfortunately for them, not for me, but they've done fine since anyways, but they roomed me and my co-founder from Workpop together on a company off site. He was the new VP of Product that they had hired out of Zynga. He used to run the With Friends platform there, and we hit it off and he's still one of my best friends. And we basically decided that night that we would eventually leave and start something together, we just didn't realize how soon it would be. Chris Erwin:This is like one of the first nights with a company at an off site, and you meet a new colleague, and you decide then and there like, "We're going to start a company together." That's pretty fast. Chris Ovitz:Basically, we hit it off, and we're like, "We need to do something." And I just had no idea that it would be that quickly. Chris Erwin:Yeah. Why do you think you guys vibe so well? What was special about him? Chris Ovitz:We had really complementary skill sets. He's extremely talented product executive and entrepreneur. He actually just launched his company yesterday called Mojo, which is a sports app for kids and actually to make coaches better and improve the youth sports experience, which I'm actually really excited about. And he's super talented. And yeah, we just knew it. Do you ever meet someone and you're like, you know you're going to be good friends and you know you're going to work well together? That's what it was like. And so we had fun working together at Scopely and we worked on some really fun products together. And then ultimately we decided to go into enterprise software. Chris Erwin:Hey, listeners, this is Chris Erwin, your host of The Come Up. I have a quick ask for you, if you dig what we're putting down, if you like the show, if you like our guest, it would really mean a lot if you can give us a rating wherever you listen to our show. It helps other people discover our work. And it also really supports what we do here. All right, that's it everybody. Let's get back to the interview. Chris Erwin:In under a year, you end up founding what's called Workpop. What was Workpop? Chris Ovitz:Back then, mobile job search was almost non existent. And so we wanted to build a better hiring experience for essential workers. So back then, most of the hiring platforms were really focused on building for the employer, and not the job seeker. And so we decided we wanted to build a better experience. And it was a great idea, started with great intentions. I went into that space because I wanted to prove that I could do something that was completely outside of media and entertainment. I wanted to show people that I can build a real company. Chris Ovitz:And I did that. But along the journey, which took me to places like selling door to door in places like Birmingham, Alabama, nothing wrong with Birmingham, Alabama, but I realized that wasn't where I wanted to be. And I realized that I needed to be passionate about the space. And I thought I could build anything and be excited about it as long as it was my team. I was super excited about the team, really enjoyed who I was working with. But at the end of the day, these companies take on a life of their own, and you need to be in a space that you truly, truly love. Chris Ovitz:And so that was probably my big learning with Workpop. Further, we went down the stack. It started as job seeking, and then it became hiring software. And we're building HR software. And then we were like smack in the middle of the HR tech space. And that's when I realized it wasn't for me. We were building a product for small and medium businesses, and it's just a really tough grind selling into that segment. Chris Erwin:You mentioned that you went to Birmingham, Alabama for a sales trip when you were at Workpop. What's that story? Chris Ovitz:Look, this is where I realized that I needed to get out of the enterprise software business. My partner and I were on a plane, and we were flying to Birmingham, and the only thing we were excited about was going to be the food we were going to eat in the south. We both looked to each other and kind of had this moment where it's like, "Do we really?". We were both media guys. He came from the game world, and we both kind of ended up in this space, because we had a good idea. And we landed in Birmingham, and we were staying in a motel and we were there to sell a Papa John's franchisee. And we're going in and we met with the HR team was run by this very nice, but like 80 year old woman, and really didn't understand how technology worked. And so we found ourselves selling to a lot of those customers, and it was draining. And when we both looked, we were like, "Where are we? What are we doing right now?" And I think that was the moment. Again, I don't want to take anything away from Birmingham, Alabama. But it just wasn't where I wanted to be in my life. If I was going on sales trips, I wanted to be in New York or Chicago or San Francisco or places like that. Chris Erwin:Yeah. When you landed and you were doing these sales meetings in person, did you guys feel like immediately out of place? What was going on there? Chris Ovitz:Yeah, we definitely felt out of place. And it just felt like we could never do enough. I mean, we were running the business but we were also selling the product. We didn't have some huge sales force. And so it just took a lot to gain even an inch. We felt like we were running miles to get those small wins. And so whether we are in Birmingham, Alabama, or Orlando, Florida, it was just all over the country selling software. It just wasn't what I was into. Chris Erwin:Yeah. Well, Chris, I want to go back to something that you said where when you founded Workpop, you wanted to prove that you could build something that's not in media entertainment. So it's interesting, because you start in the core of the media entertainment industry, you're working at Paramount Vantage for a very seasoned studio executive and talent agent. And then you do start working in and then founding some companies that are at the intersection of tech and media. So the sentiment that you wanted to prove that you could do something different, was that for you or was it for someone else? Chris Ovitz:I think when you have a successful father, at the end of the day, you have a bar that's set for you. And so you're always trying to live up to that bar. And everyone always has preconceived notions of how you're going to be or expectations of you. And I think everyone expected me to do something in media entertainment, expected me to use my network to bring influencers into something right or do something influencer related, and I didn't want to do that. And I needed to scratch that itch. And I'm glad I did it. And it taught me a lot and led me to where I am today. Chris Erwin:So what happens with Workpop? Do you stay there through a sale to another company or you depart before the acquisition? What happens? Chris Ovitz:At Workpop, about five years in, one of our investors Cornerstone was interested in acquiring the company and the team. There was a natural fit, and they had an SMB product that they wanted to expand on and it was a perfect fit. And so I stayed on through the acquisition, but I knew that I wasn't going to stay and run technology partnerships. A big public enterprise software learning management system company, that wasn't in my future, it wasn't for me, incredible company, really a big fan of the Cornerstone team. And Adam Miller, he's a great advisor to us. But if I was being honest with myself, it wasn't where I was going to continue my career. So I took some time off. I was a new father, a relatively new father. My son was about three at the time, and really started thinking about what I wanted to do next. Chris Erwin:Yeah, it's interesting to hear you talk about your realization moment there that hey, this is not where I want to be like in terms of your career and work. In an interview with Chas Lacaillade, who's the founder of Bottle Rocket Management, an influencer management company, on our podcast, he was on a road trip in Louisiana in the Bayou. He was selling water pumps. He was in LA. And then he was working for a water pump company out of Orange County. He was on this sales trip and realized there in a conversation with his coworker Buddy in the car, like, "Hey, I need to get back to LA. This is not the right industry for me." So you guys definitely have parallels in your story there. Chris Ovitz:Definitely a wake up call for me. Chris Erwin:Yeah, all right. So after Workpop, you then launch OK Play, which is the company that you're at right now. So what's the story of how OK Play came to be? Chris Ovitz:I mean look, it sounds cliche, but I wanted to create something for my son. I was a relatively new father. Son's three years old at the time. I was watching one day while he was a preschool, I was watching Won't You Be My Neighbor, which is the Mr. Rogers documentary. And I became incredibly inspired. This was a man that knew how to reach children, how to talk to them in a way that they felt heard and understood. He didn't treat them like little kids. He treated them like real people, just smaller people. And I thought that was fascinating. And the way he used the television to reach a very, very large audience was very similar to the way that the mobile devices are ever present and not going anywhere. Chris Ovitz:And so in the way that I learned how powerful community was in Viddy, I thought that we could do something similar with the mobile devices and kids today. So I think that there's so much guilt in general for parents, and then there's all this judgment and guilt around screen time. And I think that we forget in our little bubbles in our world is that the whole no screens thing is a privilege. And the YouTube as a babysitter is real, and it's a problem. And I think at the end of the day, balance is key. And I think that there's no reason we can't reimagine screen time. These devices aren't going anywhere. And so I wanted to create something. My partners wanted to create something that was screen time that wasn't leaned back, that really puts kids at the center of the story and the creation. Chris Erwin:I like how you just phrase that, where I think a lot of people look at kids' content consumption as a problem that plagues the U.S. and all these other countries. But how do you put kids in the driver's seat of that content, that story to make it productive and helpful? I really like how you position that. So you have this vision. And so then how does this start? Where do you begin building and with who? Chris Ovitz:So I immediately called JJ, who was my co-founder of Viddy. And he was at Headspace at the time consulting for them, actually. And I was like, "You got to watch this documentary." He did. He was like, "Oh my God, this is awesome. I totally see what you mean. Let's start thinking about what this could look like." We reached out to our former CTO, Ken Chung, who's one of our co-founders, and he was running a big engineering team at Snap. So he was in charge of the camera team there, very talented engineer. He was at Fullscreen as well. And he's a new father. And so he got super excited about the potential. Chris Ovitz:And then we just kept building from there one by one, reaching out to people in our network that were extremely talented, that had young kids that could get excited about this. And so it really went from that is how the idea started to when we brought a gentleman named Travis Chen in, who's an interactive play designer. And he was the Chief Game Designer at Scopely, which is where I met him, super talented guy. And he was the one that really brought the play into the mix, and how we really started thinking about learning through play as the mechanism for which we were going to achieve our goals. Chris Ovitz:And so he joined. He was the Creative Director for Games and Interactive at Bad Robot, which is JJ Abrams' company. And then before he joined us, he was at Snap running all their AR innovation stuff. And so he was just the perfect person to come in and really help us think about how we can make the phone almost like a cardboard box. So when you see a cardboard box, you see a cardboard box. When a kid sees a cardboard box, they see a rocket ship, a castle, whatever. And so we wanted to take that philosophy and apply it to the content we were creating in the phone. So I think our OK Play, the vision is about really making it kid led, but parent involved. That's when kids really learn the most. So you can go on a treasure hunt with your child, you can do a fire rescue, you can run a candy factory and the kid is at the center of these stories, and they're creating them and then they're creating a piece of content that they can share with their family members. Chris Erwin:And is it intended for co-consumption, where it's both the parent and the child consuming and participating in the experience at the same time? Chris Ovitz:Absolutely. So it's all about this staring versus sharing, right? We want to get away from the mind numbing, like kid in zombie mode, create truly interactive content that is active and engaging and parents are included. I think this comes back to, so our other co-founder, who's our chief scientist, Colleen Russo Johnson. She's our child development expert and kids media expert. She did all this research on kids absorbing more when the parents are involved. So she did a bunch of research on Daniel Tiger, just the spiritual successor to Mr. Rogers. And I discovered her in an article in The Atlantic, in which she was quoted, it was the article is about ChuChu TV, which is basically like the Cocomelon of India. And she was talking about this study that she did, that kids learn the social and emotional concepts, learning concepts in Daniel Tiger much more quickly, and they absorb much more when the parent is actually watching it with them and engaging with them while they're watching it, than when they're just staring at it alone. Chris Ovitz:And so we took a lot of that and built what you see in OK Play today. And because of that article, we reached out to her, she started advising us and the and we're like, "You're perfect. You need to come join us and build this." And she was like, "This is my life's work in an app. This is awesome." And yeah, we just kind of built an all star team and just went after it. Chris Erwin:Yeah, this makes me think of have you heard of Nike Adventure Club? Chris Ovitz:I have not, actually. Chris Erwin:I think we wrote about this, maybe now almost like a year and a half ago. But essentially, Nike came up with like a subscription club for their shoes that brings both parents and kids together. So kids can go into the app with their parents and say, "Oh, I like these shoes. I like the story behind them.", learn about them, learn about their environmental impact when they are discarded. And then you sign up for the shoe. And then I think you can get replacements like once every six months or 12 months. And then along with the shoe also comes games and experiences and things you could do it like the local playground or at home. And it's this really cool idea that feels very similar to what you're describing. Chris Erwin:It seems like the timing for what you're building is just perfect. Also, I think back to the FTC settlement with YouTube, I think like a year and a half ago, where there's now going to be limited monetization for a lot of the kids content channels. And particularly with all the extremist content and the political backlash and what's happened over the past six months, I think there's a very strong desire for safer content destinations just overall, but particularly for our youth. So have you sensed that, that there's kind of this unique momentum and tailwind that you have in the market right now? Chris Ovitz:Definitely, there is. But I think it's very difficult for kids app developers and kid content creators. I think the privacy laws aren't making it any easier. They're only getting stricter, and they're a gray area and they're a moving target, which makes it tough. And the lawmakers aren't technologists. And so in some cases, the laws don't make any sense and just really don't apply. That said, children's privacy is, there's nothing more important, and we have to protect our kids online. But I would say it's getting very, very difficult to create this content because of the privacy laws. So you got to be, when you're thinking about making this content, you got to abide by a strict set of rules, you got to make sure you're not having outbound links that are triggering browsers, you got to gate everything. Social interaction can be a big no, no, but there's ways to do it creatively that are safe for the child. It's definitely the wild west right now, a little bit. Chris Erwin:Yeah. So it feels like you'd have to staff up that department and that need differently than say, what Complex or BuzzFeed would have to staff their digital and production and user experience team. So what does that mean for you guys? Do you have a bigger legal team? Or how do you incorporate that into your workflow? Chris Ovitz:Incredible lawyers, we all are just very aware of what's going on as far as privacy is concerned. There are specific certifications you can go out and get such as kidSAFE to let parents know that your app is safe for children. You just have to be on top of it and pay attention. Chris Erwin:So it seems like a fun part of this too just in the product development, like do you go out and you work with parents and kids to get an idea of like, "Hey, what would get you excited? We want to do some alpha testing." I mean, clearly the founding, the executive team that you guys have brought, brings a lot of personal experience, like you guys are all parents. How do you get inspired and get in the mindset of these children to design something that's really special for them? Chris Ovitz:So several ways. So we do a lot of play testing. We have a really vibrant community of parents and kids that will test things with. Another thing is we have to remember how to be kids. Kids are experts at play, right? We are not, somehow as an adult, you forget that. And so I think being a parent makes it a lot easier. I'm always building Lego or something like that with my son. I found myself as we've started this company, I'm watching children's cartoons and consuming all the content there is online and finding my favorite shows to draw inspiration from and then look, I'm probably the person that is contributing creatively least to what you see in the app, and I rely on our very talented creative team that lives and breathes this stuff to build these experiences and do this programming for children Chris Erwin:Got it. Within the app, is there a certain game or experience that's your favorite right now? Chris Ovitz:Right now, yeah. My favorite is probably Fire Rescue. So you take a picture of your face as a child, and it puts them in the story. And this little character that we have Twiggle, who's the cutest thing on earth in my opinion, invites you on this journey to go be brave with them to basically go to an emergency call. And you end up having to get there and get a couple of characters out of the tree. And they ask you to take pictures of your face and all these different emotions. And it's got really awesome music in it and it's fun. You literally created your own mini show, you can then share with your family members. And so my son loves it. And it's fun to play with it. Chris Erwin:Cool. So there's a storyline but you take a photo of like a selfie. And then that goes into one of the characters in the game. Chris Ovitz:Yes, it puts yourself into the story. It's like an interactive story and you're literally putting yourself in it. And then what happens is, is you'll draw the firetruck. You'll draw the skylines, you'll draw the tree, and then it puts it all together into this interactive story. And you get to then watch it. So it's like you're literally creating, it's almost like you're creating the storyboards for the show. And then we magically put it together and the kid feels like they've just created this really awesome interactive story. Chris Erwin:The character's name is Twinkle, the cutest character on Earth as you said, right? Chris Ovitz:Yeah. Chris Erwin:And this is called Fire Rescue? Chris Ovitz:Fire Rescue, yeah. So if you go into the OK Play app, it will be one of the first stories you see. Twiggle is one of our main characters, almost like our guide, and they take you through this adventure. And they do it. We also have Twiggle's Treasure Hunt. And so you go on a pirate adventure to find treasure and you draw the sea monster and you find out the sea monster isn't actually mean. It's actually trying to help you and a lot of really awesome morals in the story. And it all comes from a place of social emotional learning. It's designed by all of our Ph.D.s and advisors that are awesome. Chris Erwin:Oh wow, any of this content, is it licensed from a third party or is this all incubated in house? Chris Ovitz:It's all done in house. So we have an incredibly talented creative team. We're doing all of our animations, all of our own production, all of our own voiceover stuff. Chris Erwin:Wow. Do you ever get involved in any of the voiceovers or any of the brainstorming or anything like that? Chris Ovitz:Thankfully, no. I am not a fan of being on camera, on audio, anything. So hopefully I do you justice today. Chris Erwin:Got it. Have you already raised seed funding for this or was this just funded by the founders? Chris Ovitz:We did raise seed funding. So we have incredible investors. We've actually raised, we closed our series A over the summer. We've raised $11 million to date. Investors like Obvious Ventures, Forerunner, Lego Ventures, which is Lego's investment arm, Collab+Sesame, which is Sesame Workshop's fund with Collaborative Fund, Dreamers, which is Will Smith's fund. We have a ton of incredible investors. Chris Erwin:Awesome. As I think about fundraising, and then you also talking about the documentary about Mr. Rogers, I think about the impassioned plea that he makes to Congress to have funding, I think for PBS and for his program. It's such a beautiful segment in that film. The gentleman who is running the forum is like sold within five to 10 minutes, and Mr. Rogers gets the funding that he needs. So I don't know if that became part of your pitch or you harnessed that energy as you were raising this first round of funding, but I love that anecdote. Chris Ovitz:Absolutely. We love it too. And look, that was a picture of him and a quote from him. It was the first slide of our deck and that hooks everyone. It's very hard to root against a group of people that want to build something as meaningful as Mr. Rogers did. I'm by no means saying we're going to be the next Mr. Rogers but we would definitely try as hard as we can every day to live by his philosophies and build as much of that into our app as we can. Chris Erwin:Got it. So where does OK Play go next? What are you building towards in 2021? Chris Ovitz:It comes back to this staring versus sharing thing. I think we want to get away from this mind numbing, staring kid zombie mode type of content. And we want to build something that's truly interactive. We're building this new media format in which kids are really the star of what they're creating, and lets them create these adventures that they can then share with their family and friends. And it's all rooted in social emotional learning, and teaches kindness and curiosity and empathy and skills that they need to translate into the real world. Chris Ovitz:And I think now more than ever, it's super important. You have so many children at home, that they can't go to birthday parties, that can't interact with other kids, I talk to so many of my friends that have young kids that when this pandemic started, they were just at the age where they were about to start preschool. And so they interact mostly with adults, and then they'll see another small person, another child, and it's almost like they don't even know what to do, they don't have those skills yet. And so they've been deprived of this social interaction. And so if there's anything we can do to help with these skills, I think we're doing a good job. And so that's what I would love to see us accomplish this year is really reaching more families, and just helping parents and helping parents know that it's okay to take a moment, that just because their child is playing for 15 minutes on an app, it's not the end of the world. Not all content is created equal, and I think balance is key. And it's really, really important that parents give themselves a break. Chris Erwin:Cool. All right, so I have that now, to go back a little bit more personally about you. I think this is like at least the third company that you've found in your career. And you have expressed that in certain previous companies that you realized burnout and you knew when you had to kind of change things up. And I know that your wife Ara is also an entrepreneur, has her own business. You're building OK Play. You're also an investor, which we'll talk about a little bit and you have a young son. So do you feel like that you are stretched in the Ovitz household? Chris Ovitz:Yes. Look, a two entrepreneur household is very tough. I have one child, I don't know how people with multiple do it. You definitely make sacrifices, and my wife and I are not going to sacrifice our son for work. We're just not. So we do our best. I think it's made us much, much more efficient human beings. You just have to, there's no time for the nonsense. And so you just have to be really, really good planners. She's brilliant. I'm very lucky to share a household with an entrepreneur that awesome. Chris Erwin:I like that balanced mindset. I think that's absolutely critical. And more entrepreneurs need to assume that. So okay, we're about to get to the rapid fire. But before we do, Chris, why don't you tell us about, it seems that you do some investing on the side. You've done angel investing in your past but I think that there's a new fund that you're a part of. So what is that all about? Chris Ovitz:About 10 years ago, I was fortunate enough to interview at Twitter, and I met Biz Stone. And he's one of the co-founders and I kept in touch with him. We became friends, he ended up advising a couple of my companies. He was on the board of one of them. And he always said that if he ever formalized his angel investing, which by the way, he has one of the most incredible angel portfolios in history, from Slack to Square to Pinterest to BeyondMe, all of these unicorns. And I think that's because of the way he connects with entrepreneurs and how genuine and authentic he is. Chris Ovitz:But anyways, he said if he was ever going to formalize his portfolio into a VC fund, then I would be one of his first phone calls. He held true to that, and invited me to help him build his first investment fund. It's a $200 million fund. We invest in early stage companies that build the future of health, work, wealth, and play. And it's a lot of fun. I get to see incredible entrepreneurs and see how I can help them. I love connecting the dots. I believe that I'm good at connecting the dots that other people don't always see. And I love putting people together, and as I said, building community. And so I like to think of us as more of an investment group as opposed to a fund and just investing in great people. Chris Erwin:Awesome. Chris, I have to say that we've kind of gotten to know one another through the preparation for this podcast and our conversation right now. Something that stands out to me is that it seems that you have this incredible magnetism to you. Because the people that you attract around you too, whether it's launching a new investment fund or creating the founding teams for companies or recruiting someone from an article that you read, you clearly have a very, very special skill of being able to do that. What defines your magnetism? What is it about you that brings people towards your orbit? Chris Ovitz:It's a good question. I've never really thought about it like that and I appreciate you saying that. I think authenticity and just being comfortable with who I am. And that's what people get when they see me. There's nothing, I'm not positioning, trying to be something I'm not. A lot of people are threatened by people smarter than them. I want to be around as many amazingly talented people as I can get my hands on. And I think it's about building real trust and giving people the attention they deserve. And so it really just comes down to being genuine and being a good friend. And I think that builds trust with people. And then, so when you reach out to them, you're able to make things happen, because there's trust. Trust is everything. Chris Erwin:Yeah, I think that's really beautifully said. So cool. All right, so now we're on to the rapid fire round. So Chris, the rules are as follows. I'm going to ask you six questions. The answers are intended to be brief, one to two sentences, could even just be one to two words. Do you understand the rules? Chris Ovitz:I understand the rules. Chris Erwin:Awesome, all right. First one, proudest life moment. Chris Ovitz:Becoming a father. Chris Erwin:Great. What do you want to do less of in 2021? Chris Ovitz:Sitting in front of a computer. Chris Erwin:Okay. And what do you want to do more of? Chris Ovitz:Seeing friends in real life. Chris Erwin:I think many people would say the exact same right now. What one to two things drive your success? Chris Ovitz:Success is relative. But assuming someone thinks I'm successful, then it would be wanting to set the best example I can for my son. Chris Erwin:Very nice. All right, last handful of questions here. Advice for media executives going into 2021. Chris Ovitz:Dust off those social skills. Chris Erwin:What do you mean by that? Chris Ovitz:I mean, we're spending so much time on Zoom and in front of a computer that I think people may have forgotten how to interact with each other in the real world. Chris Erwin:Yeah, hopefully you haven't lost your magnetism ability. Chris Ovitz:I hope not. Chris Erwin:It's your key asset. All right, last couple here. Any future startup ambitions? Chris Ovitz:Always. I have an idea deck, some worse than others, but they're probably more of my future. Chris Erwin:Where do you keep your ideas? Chris Ovitz:Probably shouldn't tell people this but in my head. Chris Erwin:That way people can't access them, right? Chris Ovitz:Very true. But hey, if the idea is something that someone can cannibalize that easily, then it's not a great idea. Chris Erwin:Agreed. All right, last one Chris, this is an easy one. How can people get in contact with you? Chris Ovitz:They can feel free to email me chris@okplay.co. Chris Erwin:Awesome. I really appreciate you being on the podcast today, Chris. This is a lot of fun. Chris Ovitz:Hey, Chris. I appreciate you inviting me on and yeah, I hope people enjoy it. Chris Erwin:Hey, listeners, before you go, one final reminder. We love hearing from all of you. So if you have any thoughts on the show, any ideas for guests or any feedback at all, please email us. You can reach us at tcupod@wearerockwater.com. All right, that's it everybody. Thanks for listening. Chris Erwin:The Come Up is written and hosted by me, Chris Erwin and is a production of RockWater Industries. Please rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts. And remember to subscribe wherever you listen to our show. 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Hello! Another 2 weeks, another episode of the Cool Breeze podcast. This episode, the Cool Boys get down and dirty in the Snyder cut; does Batman find Merlin's Sword? Did Aquaman really die halfway through the movie? And does the Flash land on Wonder Woman's boobs still? Tune in to find out! Lesser known Mother Boxes: -Carson's Big Adventure -Conversations that you know are dead but try to necromance anyways -Nintendo Labo…? -Justin TV and the Twitch Machine Content Warning! Please note, this episode does involve the discussion on some recent allegations made against internet personalities in regards to sexual assault and grooming. Here at the CBP we do not condone or tolerate any sort of assault made against others, and believe it important to listen to those who come forward. Thank you for listening, and have a great week :)
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Welcome to season 5 of the PDS! This week we talk about the original Gimlet Media podcast StartUp. While it started chronicling the journey of trying to build Gimlet it switched to exploring the stories of other startup companies. The episodes we talk about are all about Justin TV and its eventual transition and sale as Twitch TV. This weeks discussion : Startup - Twitch 1 and 2 Next weeks recommendation : Lexitecture - 81 Quick! Despot! It would be great if you would leave us a review and follow The Podcast Discovery Show on: Spotify Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Amazon Podcasts Twitter @thepdsofficial Facebook - Podcast Discovery Club Twitch - PodcastDiscoveryShow Patreon - The Podcast Discovery Show Venmo - https://venmo.com/PDS_Crew Discord - The Podcast Discovery Chat Any support, even just reviews or getting in touch on twitter is very appreciated.
Ya! Hardcore Private Leagues are so fun when you suck at HC. In Episode 56 we talk about the start of the Forever Exiled private league, our awesome progress within it, Demon Souls (cause why wouldn't we), Justin's bold PoE 2 prediction, and the glory of Standard. If you're playing our private league, we hope you die lots (it makes us smile). If you're not playing our private league, we hope you enjoy the episode...unfortunately you'll learn that Justin did not, in fact, die by falling off of his rented bucket crane. You all rock!Forever Exiled Info:www.foreverexiled.comPatreonTwitter @ForeverExiled82Path of Exile WebsiteWrecker of Days Builds ListDiscord...
On throughout episode 138, I'll be talking about my five year time span on Twitch, before Twitch there was Justin.TV how that got me expose to live-streaming in the first place. How years later on how I got myself into streaming on twitch down the road after six years later when I started in 2014. Later down the road I'll work on part 2 on my journey from the current statement I am at now. Article Source: https://www.thestar.com/life/2020/10/15/meet-the-20-year-old-toronto-woman-whos-become-a-star-during-the-pandemic-playing-chess-on-twitch.html https://www.geekwire.com/2020/streaming-report-twitch-inherits-mixers-streamers-now-91-content-produced/ **New Sponsorship** Never pay for high prices again, Check up my affiliate Link below for Instant Gaming https://www.instant-gaming.com/igr/leonlagrey/ ExpressVPNhttp://www.expressvpn.com/llgpod Brave Referral Link: https://brave.com/?ref=leo610 Podbean: https://www.podbean.com/leonlagrey Blubrry: https://create.blubrry.com/resources/podcast-media-hosting/?code=LLGPOD LISTEN ONLINEhttps://podchaser.com/LeonLaGreyPodcasthttps://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/leon-la-grey-podcast/id1409750676?mt=2https://www.breaker.audio/leon-lagrey-podcasthttps://castbox.fm/channel/id1507344https://castro.fm/podcast/8cf227db-f94e-48f8-a43b-911162006c5chttps://play.google.com/music/listen#/ps/Ii4peko52icxtrtaqzsahdkmsnahttps://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy80YzZjYjhjL3BvZGNhc3QvcnNzhttps://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-leon-la-grey-podcast-43065952/https://overcast.fm/itunes1409750676/leon-la-grey-podcasthttps://player.fm/series/leon-la-grey-podcasthttps://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/leon-la-grey-podcast-805978https://pca.st/Lpechttps://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/tkyzg-70fde/Leon-La-Grey-Podcasthttps://open.spotify.com/show/4TxF0Gvq0FFtK1hEu55Eu2https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/anchor-podcasts/leon-lagrey-podcasthttps://tunein.com/radio/Leon-LaGrey-Podcast-p1141897/?topicId=122985744https://podplayer.net/?podId=2530750 = podcast addict-------------------------------------- Social medias and websitesTwitter: http://bit.ly/36PjAFIPlayerMe: http://bit.ly/2tibyHySnap: http://bit.ly/3aWw6XfMinds: http://bit.ly/36GSdO0Mastodon: http://bit.ly/2uYvK1xInsta: http://bit.ly/2u1MtBgVK: http://bit.ly/31fOl5m Official Website: https://www.leonlagreyentry.blog Humble Bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly?partner=leonlagrey Many ways you can support me. Support me on Podhero! https://podhero.com/453356-Dkv Pledge me on ko-fi.com/leonlagrey Or a One-time Payment thru PayPal Support my show on Flattr -------------------------------------------- Mene.com/invite/KYCdi3 GoldSilver Affiliate Linkhttps://goldsilver.com/?aff=LL
I sat down with my Justin.tv cofounder, Michael Seibel, to talk about how we turned our live reality show Justin.tv into the global platform that eventually became Twitch. Michael is currently the CEO of Y Combinator, the seed stage fund known as the first investor in Stripe, Dropbox, Instacart, Coinbase, Reddit, and thousands of other startups. Michael is one of my closest friends and an amazing mentor. In this episode we talk about his education at Yale, founding Justin.tv together, mentoring the Airbnb founders early on, how to get funded by Y Combinator, and so much more.
In this week’s Mega Visions Show: We did it! We survived the Dreamcast Dreamless 24-Hour Marathon! Corey, Graham, and Scotty review the amazing times had in the full Marathon with it's (very) highs and (very) lows. From duck races and baseball murders to bus tours and dinosaurs, it was another one for the books! Once again, we want to thank every one of you who donated and hung out on Twitch whether you were there for a few hours or a few minutes. Your energy helps us get through the insanity every year! Did we mention how our streaming technology reverted to the days of Justin TV near the end? Who cares?! We survived! There will be a clips compilation soon enough! If you missed the marathon, you can still donate to help kids in need through our Extra Life Team Page. Keep your eyes on this spot for Extra Life Day plans as well. Let us know what you think of this week's episode and the changes by joining our Discord! Last, but definitely not least, thanks to all you amazing people, our proceeds towards the NAACP Legal Defense Fund totaled $365 in June! If you need any other resources going forward, please check out this site here. And support these awesome black game developers! Be cool and grab a Mega Visions T-Shirt! Be sure to check out our sponsor Warp Zone! If you’d like to subscribe to the podcast, you can do so here: iTunes Google Play Stitcher Spotify RSS Also, if you got some time, check out our Patreon at www.patreon.com/megavisions!
Michael Seibel and Jason Seibel on if Justin.tv didn't work out.Learn more at nugget.fm/seibel
Welcome to Gamepinions Episode 49! In this episode we reminisce about the mysterious website called "Lockerz". Much like our Justin TV episode, Lockerz is a website we look back fondly on, even though it may have been the shadiest website on the internet. If you have never heard about this website before, or if you want to join in our reminiscing, definitely give this a listen! Thanks for listening, hopefully the rain ambiance will make you feel relaxed (the wonders of recording in your car)! Share with your friends and subscribe on your favorite app!
For many people, when they think of livestreaming they think of twitch. But for some like me, we think of Twitch's predecessor. In this episode Dakota and I reminisce about the crude, quirky, Wild Wild West, of streaming platforms, know as Justin TV.
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Alex Shrestha is the cofounder of Oqqur. Oqqur. Oqqur helps people experience the world, remotely. In real-time. And 360 Degrees.
Justin Kan is an internet entrepreneur. He is best known for founding Kiko, the first AJAX web calendar; Justin.tv, a live video streaming platform; Socialcam, a mobile video sharing app (acquired for $60mm by Autodesk in 2012); Twitch, a video game streaming platform (acquired by Amazon for $970mm); and Exec, an on demand maid service (acquired by Handybook in 2014). He is currently a partner at the seed fund Y Combinator. He graduated from Yale University with a degree in Physics and Philosophy.
A new decade is nigh, so what better time to look back on the tech trends that defined the twenty-tens... teens... whatever. From smartphones to 3D movies, home laser cutters to endless payments of $10 a month, settle in for a look back at the decade that was!
In this episode we chat w my long time friend HJTenchi about life, school, streaming then and now, Justin TV and really we go over everything. Living in Cali, growing up w games, what games we're playing now. Huge thank you and I hope you guys love it! THeMavShow Podcast is brought to you by the supporters on Patreon! Without these folks it would be hard to take time off from streaming to edit, create and take time to talk to all your favorite creators so thank you! patreon.com/themavshow ___________________________ Follow @HJTenchi on twitter! Lets connect! Twitter & Instagram @themavshow Show Instagram @tmspodcast LIVE DAILY AT twitch.tv/themavshow
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Disruptive forces across sports broadcast | GB Basketball's UGC ban | ESPN & Second Spectrum's 'Full Court Press' | CBS' Super Bowl production under the microscope | Mycujoo and its founders in profile. Episode 52 of the Leaders Sport Business Podcast is a sports broadcast disruption special, with David Cushnan and James Emmett analysing a handful of the issues at the top of the sports broadcast agenda before introducing a discussion (at 17.07) with Joao and Pedro Presa, the Portuguese twins who co-founded Mycujoo, a user-generated content (UGC) football streaming platform with realistic ambitions of building the single largest football community in the world. On the conversational agenda: - What is Mycujoo and what's in the name; - The business model and how it's evolved; - JustinTV, Twitch, and LinkedIn - inspirations and models; - The journey from tech service provider to tech media company; - Building a football community through long-tail content and what 200 million interactions a year means; - Why Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand, Portugal and the US have proved the strongest markets; - Japan's Nadeshiko League - a Mycujoo case study; - How the twins lead together; - How to recruit and build as a start-up, and why Amsterdam is the perfect base.
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The moderator of moderators, the Modfather, the God Mod, the one who wields the sword, Ian Dixon joins us to talk all about stream chat moderation. Ian has been moderating online communities early on, when Twitch was Justin TV and even before that when stuff was streamed on UStream with IRC chats. Ian established himself early on and was invited to moderate for Loading Ready Run. One gig lead to another and after a decade of timing ppl out, Ian has now created an entire network of moderators sharing and learning from each other. Much thanks to Ian for joining the show to share his knowledge and experience with us. There are many streamers looking for moderators, so if you love hanging out on streams, and you care about growing communities, consider becoming a moderator. Ian is always available to share his knowledge. You can reach out to him on Twitter @DixonIJ Music Credits (in order of appearance): The Process by LAKEY INSPIRED Our theme song is Play the Game by Antracto (Yes I bought the rights, if you're curious) Patreon music: Road Trip by Joakim Karud Card Kingdom ad music: Someways by Nicolai Heidlas Paragon City Games ad music: Clouds by Joakim Karud Preview Clip: Dreams by Joakim Karud
Parmi les youtubeurs à succès, il y a aussi des familles. Car YouTube, ce sont aussi les chaines familiales créées par des parents qui mettent en scène leur vie privée et celle de leurs enfants. Et cela peut s’avérer très lucratif, comme pour la chaine familiale « April Justin TV » avec plus de 350 000 abonnés. Au départ, April, la maman, faisait de ses vidéos beautés un simple hobby, mais quand certaines ont atteint plusieurs millions de vues, c’est devenu une vraie activité professionnel. Avec son mari Justin, ces youtubeurs familiaux font maintenant de leurs tranches de vie privée partagées sur Internet un vrai business.
Wherein we discuss Ryan Scott, Heroes & Villains Fan Fest, catching up on Flash, Jessica Jones, playing Fallout 4 for 2 days straight, David Bowie's "Blackstar", Doctor Who episode "Face the Raven", Justin TV, World of Warcraft never going free-to-play, favorite childhood toys, and holiday traditions. Starring Ryan Higgins, Adam Fitch, Justin Haywald, and Alice Liang.
Welcome to a new Indeed Podcast. Full live show this time. Check out the link at the bottom. Weekly Roundup Welcomes the Russians to all our old Geocities site info and other places of death. Star Wars Land to be real and Hotels putting the price hack on bad reviews. Creepy or Cool Baseball is not the same with robot fans. We have a Movie Review of Guardians of the Galaxy and a Contest give-a-way for Sunday tickets at PAC-CON. Parting Thought we say goodbye to Justin.tv. Sit Back, Relax and change your passwords to you MLP online profile. The Russians are watching, and so is NSA, and so is Google, and so is....
Links to the topics: BioShock 1 announced for iPad and iPhone - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-08-04-bioshock-1-announced-for-iphone-and-ipadHyrule Warriors will support local co-op, but not online - http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/08/04/hyrule-warriors-will-support-local-co-op-but-not-onlineNo mans sky is to be a time PS4 Exclusive, and will come out on the PC - http://www.gamespot.com/articles/no-mans-sky-confirmed-for-pc-is-a-ps4-timed-exclus/1100-6421442/Ass Creed Rogue - http://www.gamespot.com/articles/assassins-creed-rogue-confirmed-for-xbox-360-and-p/1100-6421508/ Evolve will be delayed until early 2015 - http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/08/05/evolve-delayed-until-early-2015/JustinTV shutting down - http://justin.tv Resident Evil HD Remaster - http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/05/resident-evil-hd-remaster-slated-november/PS4 outsells xbox 3 to 1 - http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/187371-ps4-outselling-the-xbox-one-3-to-1-as-total-sales-gap-grows-to-9-million-vs-5-millionWindows 9 could be free - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-9-Could-Be-Free-for-Windows-XP-Vista-and-7-Users-453222.shtmlEveryone In The Podcast:Pyro: http://youtube.com/PyroPuncherGuude: http://youtube.com/GuudeBoulderfistPause: http://www.youtube.com/PauseUnpauseCoe: http://youtube.com/Coestar
It's a Nick-less show, but we still have Holy Goalie and Edie Sellers, and they're joined by community manager Pissboy. Let's face it, we didn't really need Nick, did we? Topics include: - Preorders of Destiny's Ghost Edition are getting limited and cancelled because there's not enough plastic stuff to go around. - GameStop changes its buy-back pricing structure, eliminating the odd percent bonus you used to get for doing stuff; - Diablo 3 update will allow you to save data to cloud and eventually transfer it to next-gen consoles; - Justin.tv is dead; - Study says gamers experience auditory halucinations after playing; - World of Warcraft loses 800,000 players, a mere 6.5 million left; - Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. Enjoy.
This week Lawrence from Goodnight Games joins us to talk about their new game on iOS Shadow Protocol - Check out their game at - www.goodnightgames.com For more gaming related jazz go to our website - www.gameoveryeah.net
This week we read The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (vol. 1 -3, ch. 1 - 14) SPOILERS: Xsplit continues to be a butt, JustinTV makes it difficult to upload a VOD to YouTube and "The best people are dead people." -HappiLeeErin 2014Watch the video here WHERE YOU CAN SEE OUR PURTY FACES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiq13JcWE54You can watch us every Tuesday at 7:30 PM PST at http://twitch.tv/HappiLeeErinThe glorious tsun-tsun hosts:HappiLeeErin: http://www.youtube.com/happileeerinDodger: http://www.youtube.com/user/PressHeartToContinuehttp://www.youtube.com/dexteritybonusYokurama: http://www.youtube.com/user/YokuramaGameTalkDoctorDazza: http://www.youtube.com/user/FightingforNipponOUR TWITTERS:Erin: https://twitter.com/HappiLeeErinDodger: http://twitter.com/dexbonusYokurama: https://twitter.com/YokuramaTalksDoctorDazza: https://twitter.com/DoctorDazza
Brett And Codeh return for episode 25 of GU Live. They discuss Black Tusk Studio's new deal, Rare's project, and more! Follow Codeh on Twitter: @OfficialCodeh Follow Brett on Twitter: @FriedZombie Follow Gaming Unleashed on Twitter: @GamingUnleashed.com Latest Gaming News And Reviews @ GamingUnleashed.com
This is a weekly show we are doing called Pokemon Talk. Each week we will talk about a different World Tournament Mode, This week its Johto Leaders. Source of all of our information (http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/pwt/johto.shtml) We have a Special Guest, FeFan88. If you want to get ahold of him of anything go hit him up on Twitter(https://twitter.com/FEfan88) He will answer your question and give you his friend code if you give him yours! And if you want to add us to your friends list here are our friend codes. PS dont forget to comment yours Steelzy: 4384 7983 7982 Kenzen: 4041 3813 3588 All of our channels Steelzy: http://www.youtube.com/tknzsteele KenzenCrese: http://www.youtube.com/kenzenssj5jedi Each week we will tell you about how we would do each thing or talk about what we did this week in our games!
This is a weekly show we are doing called Pokemon Talk. Each week we will talk about a different World Tournament Mode, This week its Kanto Leaders. Source of all of our information (http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/pwt/kanto.shtml) We have a Special Guest, FeFan88. If you want to get ahold of him of anything go hit him up on Twitter(https://twitter.com/FEfan88) He will answer your question and give you his friend code if you give him yours! And if you want to add us to your friends list here are our friend codes. PS dont forget to comment yours Steelzy: 4384 7983 7982 Kenzen: 4041 3813 3588 All of our channels Steelzy: http://www.youtube.com/tknzsteele KenzenCrese: http://www.youtube.com/kenzenssj5jedi Each week we will tell you about how we would do each thing or talk about what we did this week in our games!
This is a weekly show we are doing called Pokemon Talk. Each week we will talk about a different World Tournament Mode, This week its Unova Leaders. Source of all of our information (http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/pwt/unova.shtml) And if you want to add us to your friends list here are our friend codes. PS dont forget to comment yours Steelzy: 4384 7983 7982 Kenzen: 4041 3813 3588 All of our channels Steelzy: http://www.youtube.com/tknzsteele KenzenCrese: http://www.youtube.com/kenzenssj5jedi Each week we will tell you about how we would do each thing or talk about what we did this week in our games!
Robbie and Erika take you for the first-ever on-air tour of the Category5 TV studio, and introduce you to the powerful broadcast software Telestream Wirecast.
We're back with another Write Time! This time, on YouTube, due to popular demand :) I was finally able to figure out how to both record on my computer and broadcast at the same time...it's a bit more work for me to go and post the video on YouTube instead of just using the embedded video on JustinTV, but it's worth it to avoid some of the technical issues some of you have been having with previous videos.
We're back with another Write Time! This time, on YouTube, due to popular demand :) I was finally able to figure out how to both record on my computer and broadcast at the same time...it's a bit more work for me to go and post the video on YouTube instead of just using the embedded video on JustinTV, but it's worth it to avoid some of the technical issues some of you have been having with previous videos.
This week we do a live show and take live calls with listeners about front squatting, nutrition after losing a lot of weight, and training modifications for limited gyms.
UFC sues Justin TV...
UFC sues Justin TV...
From lifecasting back in 2007 to pioneering his way into livestream on mobile devices, Justin Kan (Justin.tv) has evolved from lifecasting with a head mounted video camera, to multi-channel, free live streaming platforms including his recent launch of iPhone and Android applications, far superior than any other apps out there. We will interview Justin to talk about his evolution, and these apps!
From lifecasting back in 2007 to pioneering his way into livestream on mobile devices, Justin Kan (Justin.tv) has evolved from lifecasting with a head mounted video camera, to multi-channel, free live streaming platforms including his recent launch of iPhone and Android applications, far superior than any other apps out there. We will interview Justin to talk about his evolution, and these apps!
If you were a pirate, wouldn't you prefer to have a dagger or even a fork to a hook? What does Bing stand for? These questions bookend a discussion of all kinds of crazy news by Scott and Elton. Enjoy the show as the boys talk about bull fights, Justintv, watching Star Wars, broken legs, virtual reality manslaughter, mini-canons, and much more. Don’t forget to mail, tweet, and Facebook us. Thanks, have fun, and don’t forget to look back at the old episodes!
Justin shared his story of how he came up with the idea of a 24/7 live broadcast, how he became an international celebrity, and the sharp turn Justin.tv had to make to shape the company into the successfully operating business it is today.
Tonight on V-RADIO I will be taking the interview I did with Jacque and Roxanne in Florida and turning it into a Blogtalkradio archive. (JustinTV deletes old clips after sixty days). This show will probably go over an hour. Thanks for all your support for V-RADIO!
Trekcast: Episode 13: Someone jacked Flotter This week on Trekcast, we continue our voyage into the Delta quadrant with the second part of our interview with Scarlett Pomers aka: Naomi Wildman. J.J. Abrams discusses a super secret guest star in Star Trek XI. ALso GenkiWear introduces some Star Trek fragrances Tiberius, Red Shirt, and my personal favorite Pon Farr, will it help cure that seven year itch. We would also like to share our favorite link of the week, just in case you need that Star Trek fix JustinTV. Listen on iTunes Stream the Podcast
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