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I had never actually heard of "somatic awareness" until my conversation with Jennifer Zach. She is a graduate of Coach U, the world's first coaching school, and certified in mind-body coaching and integrative somatic trauma therapy. She is the author of Somatic Awareness: Leading with Body Intelligence. She is the founder of Zach Coaching, LLC, where she helps leaders tap into their body's intelligence to lead with greater clarity, resilience, and impact. Trained under Dr. Peter Levine, a pioneer in the field of somatic healing, Jennifer uses her 3N Model to teach leaders to Notice, Name, and Navigate their internal states—building psychological safety, unlocking talent, and driving healthier business outcomes. With more than 20 years of corporate experience in the financial and utility sectors, Jennifer brings deep business acumen to her coaching. Jennifer's work has been featured in ATD's(Association for Training Development) TD magazine, Training Magazine, and Choice, the Magazine of Professional Coaching, and she has spoken at the ATD Chapter Leader Conference, Disrupt HR, and the Iowa SHRM Conference. You can learn more about Jennifer and somatic healing from her website: https://www.somaticallyaware.com/. You can get a copy of her book there or from Amazon.com You can also connect with Jennifer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferzach/ ******************************************** Interested in learning how to scale your business to improve cash flow and maximize profits all while working less and enjoying it more? Then join my Business Success Mastermind group. A new cohort is starting. Now accepting applications: https://ib4e-coaching.com/mastermind ******************************************** Please support this podcast: https://ib4e-coaching.com/podinfo #leadership #leadershipcoaching #business #success #somaticawareness #jenniferzach #leadingwithbodyawareness #ib4ecoaching ******************************************** If you like this podcast, consider supporting the effort. Every little bit helps. Thanks.
Voice of the Cardinals Mick Tidrow chats with Head Football Coach Mike Uremovich & Director of Athletics Jeff Mitchell. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Voice of the Cardinals Mick Tidrow chats with Ball State University President Geoffrey Mearns, Director of Athletics Jeff Mitchell, and new Head Football Coach Mike Uremovich about Coach U joining the Cardinal family. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In the first hour of today's Friday Sports Rush, Brett is joined on the guest line by Nathan Baird of the IndyStar to talk about the latest going on with the Purdue Boilermakers Football Program and how the search for a new head coach is going following the dismissal of Ryan Walters. Also in the first hour, fresh off his introductory press conference, we are pleased to be joined by new Ball State Cardinals Football Head Coach, Mike Uremovich! Brett talks to Coach U all about what lead to him joining the Cardinals, what type of team he is looking to build in Muncie, and more! Any Cardinals fan won't want to miss this interview!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this episode of Fascinating Women, Mark chats with Laura Watson, a business coach, competitive ballroom dancer, and expert communicato. She shares her journey of personal growth, driven by her desire to serve and lead others. She reflects on the guiding beliefs that shape her life, including the importance of service and walking her talk, even in difficult conversations. Laura reveals how ballroom dancing and a nude portrait session with Mark stretched her comfort zone. In dancing she rose to world champion trophy holder. She also discusses the challenges of entrepreneurship, communication mastery, and balancing family life with her passions. Her insights into mental and emotional mastery provide valuable lessons for business leaders and parents alike. Laura's reflections on embracing possibility and self-acceptance offer a powerful message of transformation and growth.Laura Watson Bio: Laura is the founder and lead business coach at Venture Coaching International in Calgary, AB. With over 25 years of counselling and coaching experience, she helps business owners and executives across North America to improve their personal, communication and leadership effectiveness.Laura graduated with an MSW from the University of Calgary and received her coaching certification from CoachU and the International Coach Federation. The Calgary Association of Professional Coaches and the Universal Women's Network recognized her expertise and commitment to personal mastery.About Laura WatsonLaura has dedicated her career over the past 30 years to helping people be the best they can be! She is an award-winning coach, wife, mother and World Country Dance Champion.Laura's "secret sauce" is helping people bridge theory to practice. She takes challenging business, leadership and communication concepts and breaks them down into practical and useable ideas and action steps.Laura is also a "whole person" coach. She knows that business leaders are people first who wrestle with all sorts of issues. Laura not only helps people on the business side but also on the personal side. It's common for Laura to discuss business issues one day and addictions, parenting, and infidelity the next.Laura is an articulate speaker eager to provide audiences with value. She will ensure your audience receives value and key takeaways they can use immediately in their personal and business lives.Connect with LauraPH: 403-669-8684http://venturecoaching.calaura@venturecoaching.cahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/laurawatson/https://www.facebook.com/laurawatsons/https://www.youtube.com/@venturecoachinginternationalAbout Mark Laurie - Host.Mark has been transforming how women see themselves, enlarging their sense of sexy, and expanding their confidence in an exciting adventure that is transformational photography. http://innerspiritphotography.comhttps://www.instagram.com/innerspiritphotography/Sound Production by:Lee Ellis - myofficemedia@gmail.com
“Leaders need to realize today that you can't possibly know it all. You also can't execute alone.”-Larry BaiderHow has your organization adapted to the evolving landscape of leadership development? What we know about effective learning for leaders has evolved over the last decade, and even since before the pandemic. In today's episode, my guest and I explore what has changed. My guest is Larry Baider. Larry has served in several executive HR leadership positions in large organizations and is currently the Vice President of Talent Management, Leadership & Learning at AmeriHealth Caritas. He is enthusiastic about helping individuals and organizations optimize their potential and their capacity to lead. Some of the most impactful contributions his teams have made include award-winning development programming and sustainable talent management and leadership practices. Larry has graduate education in Strategic Communication & Leadership, Applied Positive Psychology, Industrial-Organizational Psychology and is also a graduate of CoachU's coach training program. He is now on his PhD journey in Performance Psychology.Larry is a regular speaker on leadership, organizational psychology, and peak performance. He authored his first book, Leadership to the Fifth Power in 2007 and is currently co-host of the Lean In Leaders Podcast.In this episode of Talent Management Truths, you'll discover:An example of a lifelong learner in actionObservations from Larry and Lisa around what has changed in terms of Leadership Development since ten years ago, and since before the pandemicThe pitfalls of being constrained by personality assessment "identity hooks" or labels.LinksLarry Baider on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larry-baider/ HBR article on blending various leadership styles for best effect (democratic, autocratic, pacesetting, etc.): https://hbr.org/2000/03/leadership-that-gets-results (NOTE - you will have to pay for the article)Episode 133 - AI”s impact on L&D and Workplace Roles with Josh Cavalierhttps://talentmanagementtruths.buzzsprout.com/2267279/15129127-ai-s-impact-on-l-d-and-workplace-roles-with-josh-cavalierAre you a Talent leader who is longing for a safe place to bounce ideas off of? In addition to my group programs I work privately with a select few clients as their Talent Management Thought Partner. I will help you, over the next 90 days, create the space, the intention and the strategy to implement an initiative that is CRITICAL to your team. Let's chat and see if there's a fit. Book me online at greenappleconsulting.ca/contact Share the Show Like what you've heard? Pretty please with an apple on top - kindly leave me a 5* review so that others can find the show and elevate their impact too! Here are the simple instructions: Launch Apple's Podcast app on your iPhone or iPad. Tap the Search icon (on the botton) and search for “Talent Management Truths.” Tap the album art. On the podcast page, tap the Reviews tab. Tap Write a Review at the bottom of this page. Follow me LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-mitchell-acc-ctdp-7437636/ Instagram: @greenappleconsulting Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/greenappleconsulting.ca
This week on The UpLevel Podcast, let's explore how coaching skills and competencies can be tailored to meet an organization's unique needs for achieving sustainable business results. Our guest is Moira Klein-Swormink, who brings her dynamic energy and extensive experience to our conversation on coaching within corporate environments. Moira shares her journey from working in Advertising alongside our host Christie at Cossette Communications in their early careers to becoming the principal of Canada Branch Development at Edward Jones. Pulling from 24 years of memories, Moira reflects on how coaching principles have been instrumental in her personal growth and a key driver for professional development and organizational success.Tune into this incredible episode and learn from one of the most confident and compassionate professionals in the coaching field. In This Episode:Hear Moira and Christie reminisce about their early careers and discover how Christie played as a coach for Moira during her formative years, helping her uncover authentic self-expression through personal exploration.Learn how coaching was introduced into Edward Jones and its impact on financial advisors.Hear about Coach U and their methodologies that differ from the Co-Active approach.Uncover the tactics employed by Moira to justify continued investment in coaching programs amidst various organizational challenges.Hear the strategies used by Edward Jones to apply coaching principles effectively within different contexts while maintaining alignment with company goals.Learn the importance of acknowledging emotions in the workplace and fine-tuning listening capabilities for better team dynamics.About Moira:Moira is a people-first, results-driven leader who is most satisfied when she is doing a million different things. She loves to learn and is constantly seeking ways to connect with others to gain exposure to new perspectives, activities, and opportunities – and to unlock hidden potential. Moira is passionate about people and possibilities – something that coaching has amplified for her throughout her career.Moira joined Edward Jones – a wealth management company – in January 2016, planning to stay for two years to build out the performance and coaching teams in Canada - that was 8 years ago! She became a partner at the firm in 2022 and currently leads Canada Branch Development. In this role, Moira is responsible for Practice Management Coaching & Consulting, Performance Management, Talent Acquisition & Learning for the Financial Advisors and Client Support Team Members across Canada. Prior to Jones, Moira worked at BMO Financial Group in various roles across the company. She left BMO and started a consulting, coaching & training practice to be around for her young children – and to gain exposure to new builder opportunities with start-ups in various fields.Moira's favorite work is raising three confident, compassionate, and capable children who she argues also help raise her! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/moiraks/
Are you a therapist planning wellness retreats and wondering how to protect yourself legally while creating an unforgettable experience for your participants? Dive into today's episode where I chat with legal coach, Lisa Fraley, who's got the inside scoop on making your wellness retreat both safe and sensational. We'll talk about why therapists are uniquely equipped to lead transformative retreats and how to avoid common pitfalls that could turn your dream event into a logistical nightmare. Lisa shares her personal journey from healthcare attorney to health coach and now, a legal guru for heart-centered service providers like you. You'll learn about the importance of details, managing expectations, and the must-haves of written contracts. Plus, we'll discuss the flexibility needed when unexpected changes arise (and they will). This episode is packed with legal gems that will help you ensure your retreat is not just fun but legally sound. Are you ready to find out how to make your next wellness retreat a resounding success? Tune in!More about Lisa Fraley:Lisa Fraley, JD is an Attorney, Legal Coach®, Speaker,#1 Best-Selling Author of Easy Legal Steps and the host of the “Legally Enlightened” podcast on iTunes. As a Holistic Lawyer®, Lisa blends her legal expertise as a former healthcare attorney in a large corporate law firm and the care of a Health & Life Coach through IIN & Coach U to help thousands of heart-centered holistic health coaches, licensed practitioners, and online business owners protect their businesses and brands with contracts, disclaimers, trademarks and more.Lisa shares her “Legal Love” through DIY legal templates, online courses, 1:1 services and on stages from British Columbia to the Bellagio - and she's uniquely known for aligning legal steps with the chakras. Lisa's mission is to help small business owners understand that the law can be accessible, empowering, loving, and even spiritual. Lisa graduated from Case Western Reserve School of Law with a concentration in health law and she holds a Certificate in Sustainable Business Strategy from Harvard Business School Online. Topics covered in this episode:Lisa's journey from healthcare attorney to health coach and back to law, and how her experiences can help therapists protect themselves legally when planning a wellness retreat.The reasons why therapists have the perfect skill set to be exceptional retreat leaders and what qualities make them stand out in this role.The critical details that therapists often overlook when planning wellness retreats.The importance of clarity in retreat agreements.The best timing for signing retreat agreements and why you should have these legal documents in place early in the process.The benefits of using a comprehensive retreat agreement template to simplify the legal side of your wellness retreat planning.Connect with Felicia:Get my freebie & join the email list: The Magic SheetsInstagram: @the_bad_therapistWebsite: www.thebadtherapist.coachFacebook group: Healing MoneyConnect with Lisa Fraley:Website: www.lisafraley.com Instagram:
Unlocking Game Speed with Multidirectional Expert Jason Feairheller | Coach U PodcastIn this episode of the Coach U Podcast, we are joined by Jason Feairheller , a multidirectional speed expert and host of the Game Speed Podcast. Jason shares his journey into the sports performance industry, his favorite TV shows, and music interests.We delve into various aspects of athletic performance, discussing the science behind speed and agility, the difference between change of direction and agility, and the importance of training angles in sports. Jason also touches on key training tools and exercises, and the importance of intent in coaching. Watch to gain insights into Jason's coaching philosophy and methods designed to improve speed, power, and agility in athletes.00:00 Introduction to the Coach You Podcast01:30 Meet Jason Feairheller : Multidirectional Speed Expert01:48 Jason's Journey: From College to Private Training02:43 Personal Favorites: TV Shows and Music04:04 The Joy of Coaching and Client Success04:43 Impact Deck: Choosing New Skills08:03 Understanding Agility and Change of Direction17:06 Training Techniques: Deceleration and Redirecting Force21:21 Game Speed vs. Traditional Speed Training26:06 Skill Development in Sports26:26 Misconceptions in Speed Training28:44 Effective Speed Training Techniques31:19 Importance of Angles in Sports42:13 Strength Training for Speed and Agility47:22 Favorite Training Tools and Techniques50:41 Specialization in Sports52:00 Key Takeaways for Athletes53:37 Final Thoughts and Contact InformationGET IN TOUCH WITH JASONhttps://www.instagram.com/jasonfeairh...
Welcome to the Personal Development Trailblazers Podcast! In this episode, we dive into balancing work and motherhood. Susan has been a Coach and Educator for well over 40 years. Whether in classrooms, offices, or in homes, she has always been teaching and coaching. Susan was trained as a Coach in the '90's through CoachU. As a mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother her love for children has led her to a new business, coaching professional first-time moms in having fun and joy in their time with their child, getting daily tasks done without adding to their already busy schedules; being present and productive whether at home or at work, alleviating any guilt that might arise. Connect with Susan on socials here: facebook.com/susan.cristini.7 https://www.instagram.com/scscristini/ DM her for a PDF list of 10 Fun Ways to Teach Your Child While Doing Daily Tasks! =================================== If you enjoyed this episode, remember to hit the like button and subscribe. Then share this episode with your friends. Thanks for watching the Personal Development Trailblazers Podcast. This podcast is part of the Digital Trailblazer family of podcasts. To learn more about Digital Trailblazer and what we do to help entrepreneurs, go to DigitalTrailblazer.com. Are you a coach, consultant, expert, or online course creator? Then we'd love to invite you to our FREE Facebook Group where you can learn the best strategies to land more high-ticket clients and customers. Request to join here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/profitablecoursecreators QUICK LINKS: APPLY TO BE FEATURED: https://app.digitaltrailblazer.com/podcast-guest-application GET MORE CLIENTS: https://app.digitaltrailblazer.com/client-acquisition-accelerator-pdf DIGITAL TRAILBLAZER: https://digitaltrailblazer.com/ JOIN OUR FREE FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/profitablecoursecreators
In this episode, I was blessed to be joined by Dr. JoNeil Conley. We talked about healing and the topic of bullying. JoNeil shares her personal experiences of bullying in the medical field and her personal life. She discusses the impact of bullying on individuals and patients and the need for change in organizations. JoNeil shares her "Meanness Matrix," which helps individuals understand and respond to different types of bullying. Dr. JoNeil Conley and I discuss healing from hurt and narcissism, cutting off toxic families, the healing process, differentiating bullies and narcissists, giving grace to bullies, and the power of pause and choice. Tap one of the links below to connect with Dr. JoNeil TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joneilsmithconley Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Dr.JoNeil JoNeil Conley is a speaker, teacher, healer and coach. She began her career as a Registered Nurse and considers herself A Nurses Nurse. JoNeil is a graduate of Coach U, BARE and BOLD for Moms and Girls and Avalon Empowerment. She currently has a coaching practice for people who have been bullied and is the creator of the Meanness Matrix, a tool to help you resist and recover from the impact of negative people and experiences. Dr. Conley has been bullied in her personal and professional life. She is dedicated to helping others understand that there will always be Bullies. You must learn tools and strategies to protect you heart and soul. Coming soon, Dr. Conley will be releasing the “Three C model to eliminate Bullies from the workplace” ________________ If you or someone you know need help with a domestic violence situation contact the national domestic violence hotline at 800-799-7233 or online Here
Welcome to the latest episode of the Coach U Podcast, where we bring you the latest insights from the world of coaching and sports performance. In this episode, our host, Coach U, is joined by the incredible Alan Dean, head performance coach for Great Britain Baseball and seasoned strength and conditioning coach with over 30 years of experience. Get ready to dive deep into the world of athletic development and coaching as we discuss the power of building personal connections and understanding athletes on a personal level.Main Topics Covered1. Holistic Coaching Approach - Building personal connections with athletes.2. Athletic Development - Non-linear progress and energy management.3. Technology Impact - Global connectivity and information overload.4. Movement Proficiency - Quality and efficiency in training.5. Individual Support - Tailoring encouragement based on personalities.6. Sport Specific Training - Similarities and differences in cricket and baseball.7. Social Norms - Teaching life skills and adapting to changes.Throughout the episode, Coach U and Alan Dean shed light on the significance of kids playing multiple sports, and how this diverse engagement can shape individuals as well-rounded athletes. We explore how playing multiple sports can enhance an athlete's skills across different planes and build robust conditioning. It's not just about physical prowess, but also about allowing for recovery and nurturing both the sympathetic and parasympathetic systems. Plus, incorporating fun activities and warm-up games before training can energize and invigorate young athletes, setting the stage for optimal performance and enjoyment.The conversation takes an inspiring turn as we discuss the significance of combating impostor syndrome and spreading positivity. Alan Dean highlights the impact of genuine relationships with athletes, and the rich rewards that come from understanding and supporting them beyond the boundaries of the sports field. It's a heartfelt reminder of the transformative power of coaching and the deep fulfillment that comes from positively influencing the lives of young athletes.The impact of technology on coaching takes center stage, with Alan Dean emphasizing the positive possibilities of global connections and information accessibility. However, the discussion prompts reflections on the need to navigate through a sea of information and align it with personal values and coaching philosophies. The communal spirit of the coaching world and the shift towards prioritizing movement quality over sheer strength emerge as paramount themes, underlining the ever-evolving landscape of athletic development and performance enhancement.Amidst the enriching conversations, the podcast surfaces compelling discussions about the importance of supporting and encouraging young athletes in today's dynamic coaching environment. Alan Dean's insights into understanding athletes as individuals and tailoring support based on their personalities and strengths echo the heart-centered coaching approach that resonates with coaches and athletes alike.The episode concludes with a captivating conversation on the differences and similarities between sports such as baseball, cricket, and soccer, offering a fascinating glimpse into the diverse world of athletic training and skill development.Stay tuned for more inspiring episodes and insightful conversations on the Coach U Podcast, where coaching isn't just a profession, it's a profound journey of heart, passion, and transformation.
Despite being told that one day coaching would lead her to burn out, Katie Harvey has discovered that the opposite is true: coaching gives her energy.Now into her third decade as a coach, Katie has carefully honed a practice that enriches her life and allows her to express her core values through her work, and in this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, she explains how she did it.Katie reflects on how coaching has helped her to move beyond a binary view of the world in order to sit more comfortably with seemingly conflicting truths, such life being both painful and beautiful, or people being both loveable and difficult.This is Katie's third time as a guest on the podcast, and host Joey Owen helps her unpack the story of the years since her first appearance, over four years ago, and her second, which came at the height of the coronavirus pandemic.Alongside her work with individual clients and with leaders, and the coaching she delivers at Coach U and London Business School, we were excited to hear Katie is finally writing the book she speaks about in her first appearance on the podcast, which she hopes will bring her into more connection with coaches and help them achieve a sense of integration. In this episode, Katie and Joey also talk about:Optimising energy for coaching by paying attention to the four pillars of self-careSupervision, listening partners, and the tools and aids that help coaches develop space, time and improvements in their practiceThe ways in which coaching is shaping the future in educational spacesThe love that runs through our work, and the boundaries that allow us to work with loveHow to identify our core values, through the activities that express our essenceKatie also generously shares the changes she has made to her pricing structure and the rationale that has helped her reach a place of comfort and fulfilment.
Judy Sabah began her coaching career in 1994. Judy takes us down memory lane as she reminisces about life, love, and family. Her focus has been on the questions we ask and how they can shape one's life. She takes us back to her childhood, when she was silenced at a critical moment when she was six years old. Because of that situation, she made a decision to become the best listener she could be. Using her skill of curiosity, she continues to learn about herself, learn about other people, and uses all of that information to create deeper understanding and empathy in creating as much value as she possibly can in our world. A pioneer in the field of coaching, she began her education with CoachU in1994. As a member of the International Coach Federation she was awarded the Master Certified Coach designation in 1999. She co-founded the Colorado Chapter of the National Speakers Association in 1982 and is Past President (1993/94). She is a Certified Axiogenics® Coach, also Certified in Instinctive Drives®. She also founded (in 1996) the Colorado Chapter of ICF and continues to be deeply involved in the chapter and the coaching profession, as well as the Colorado Chapter of NSA. She coaches all of us to ask, “What makes me feel I AM most alive?” In this session we will discuss: · Judy reminiscences about her family history and how that impacted her and still impacts her today. · Silenced at six, that has lead to a life of listening, which led her into a career in coaching, speaking, and writing. · Judy teaches about self-management and self-leadership with her clients and in her upcoming book. · She reflects on unexpected connections and how that always brings an exciting gift to life and living wonderful experiences.
In this episode, we are honored to have former Nebraska Football Coach, Athletic Director, U.S. Congressman, and Founder of the TeamMates Mentoring Program, Tom Osborne join us. A revered figure in the world of sports, mentorship, and leadership, Tom's influence reaches far beyond the field, touching the lives of countless individuals through his commitment to excellence and character development.With a legacy that spans decades of coaching, public service, and community engagement, Tom's insights offer a unique perspective on the transformative power of mentorship and sportsmanship. His experiences have been forged through a lifetime of guiding athletes, fostering teamwork, and instilling values that extend far beyond the game.om's Top 5 CliftonStrengths are: Belief, Achiever, Self-Assurance, Relator and Responsibility.For more interviews visit leadingwithstrengths.comTranscripts available upon request.
In this episode, I interview Lisa Fraley, JD, a Legal Coach® and Attorney. Lisa takes a holistic approach to law by blending her expertise as a former health care attorney in a large corporate law firm with the care of a Health & Life Coach trained through IIN and CoachU. Her goal is to make law easy to understand, accessible and affordable – and she uniquely aligns legal steps with the chakras. With a Certificate in Sustainable Business Strategy from Harvard Business School Online, she's the author of Easy Legal Steps…That Are Also Good for Your Soul (a #1 Amazon best seller in both Corporate Law and Ethics) and the host of the “Legally Enlightened Podcast” offering bite-sized legal tips in 20-minutes or less. Lisa has spoken on international stages from the Bellagio to British Columbia, including for the World Conference on Food Safety in Rome, National Association of Nutrition Professionals, JJ Virgin's Mindshare Summit (upcoming), Functional Diagnostic Nutrition, and Maryland University of Integrative Health. She's been a legal expert on over 300 podcasts and interviews. In this episode, we discuss.. Common legal questions & concerns from NPs and APNs who are getting started in private practice Lisa's journey to starting her own practice The one thing she wished she knew about starting her own business Contact information: Website & FREE Legal Tips: www.lisafraley.com Book a free Legal Chat at lisafraley.com/legalchat or email us at clientlove@lisafraley.com
Sinikka Waugh and Ann Wright discuss the 5 C's of Coaching. Ann Wright MBL, ACC Leadership and Team Coach Throughout Ann's 25-plus years of experience in leadership and talent development, she discovered and believes that people are an organization's most valuable asset. She partners with organizations and leaders to achieve their personal and professional goals by focusing on people, culture, and everyone's unique talents. Ann believes businesses grow by investing in their team members and embracing the talent each brings. 2She is an ICF Credentialed Coach focusing on Leadership and Team Coaching, speaker, author, and facilitator. Through her workshops and coaching, she assists people in developing their interpersonal skills in areas such as Attitude, Communicating with Confidence, Life/Work Balance, Productive Conflict Resolution, Meeting Management, Presentation Skills, and Teambuilding, so they can achieve their goals in life, as well as, help their organizations reach their outcomes. Ann earned her Bachelor of Science degree with a double major in Business and Psychology and Masters in Business Leadership degree through Upper Iowa University. Ann is a licensed facilitator in Coach U's - The Coach Clinic where participants learn how to use the Coaching Conversation Model and develop strategic coaching skills which benefit them in creating a culture where performance is amplified and team effectiveness increased.
Professional Builders Secrets brings you an exclusive episode with APB Executive Business Coach Dennis Wong. In this episode, Dennis delves into the importance of project reporting, and how builders can get on top of their profit and loss before it's too late. INSIDE EPISODE 89 YOU WILL DISCOVER The in's and out's of project reporting How to keep your reporting accurate How to increase your profit margin The KPI's you need to be tracking What to do when a build is overrunning and costing you too much money And much, much more. Listen to the full episode to uncover exactly how you can start to accurately report your projects, so that you aren't leaving money on the table. APB Members can access the free Project Reporting Sheet download inside the Accurate Project Reporting action plan. Access The Course Now coaching.apbbuilders.com/courses/enrolled/2117343 ABOUT DENNIS WONG Based in Sydney, Australia, Dennis Wong is one of the Australasian Executive Business Coaches at the Association of Professional Builders. A Coach-U and FocalPoint Coaching accredited business coach also serving on the Executive Committee of the Asia Pacific Alliance of Coaches (APAC), Dennis now works exclusively with owners of residential building companies in Australia and New Zealand that are looking to fast-track their results. Connect with Dennis: linkedin.com/in/dennis-s-wong/ TIMELINE 1:10 Project Reporting Explained 4:22 Getting on top of your profit and loss before it's too late 7:08 How builders react to KPI's and project reporting 9:24 What builders can do to increase their profit margin 14:42 How long it takes to accurately report a job 17:25 The KPI's you need to be tracking LINKS, RESOURCES & MORE APB Website: associationofprofessionalbuilders.com APB Rewards: associationofprofessionalbuilders.com/rewards/ APB on Instagram: instagram.com/apbbuilders/ APB on Facebook: facebook.com/associationofprofessionalbuilders APB on YouTube: youtube.com/c/associationofprofessionalbuilders Join the Professional Builders Secrets Facebook group for builders & connect with professional builders world-wide: facebook.com/groups/builderssecrets
In this episode of the Coach U Podcast, host Coach U is joined by guest Dr. Josh Heenan, a renowned expert in strength and conditioning. The focus of this episode is on various aspects of training, movement, and orthopedics.Dr. Heenan begins by stressing the importance of controlling the spine during deadlifts and squats. He explains that maintaining a neutral spine while picking up a load and controlling the eccentric force while lowering it is crucial. He also highlights the significance of good movement and orthopedics for proper hip separation and flexion in squats.The topic of athlete nourishment is also addressed, with Dr. Heenan suggesting a goal of consuming 1000 calories before 9 AM, even for female athletes. However, the focus is not just on calorie intake but on consuming quality calories. He explains the importance of having a solid breakfast with high-quality proteins, fats, and carbohydrates.Sleep and recovery are highlighted as crucial factors for athletes. Dr. Heenan recommends getting 7 to 10 hours of sleep and mentions other strategies like cold plunges and sauna use, depending on the specific needs of each athlete.The podcast also touches on the mental health of athletes. Dr. Heenan discusses the role strength and conditioning coaches play in being the first line of defense and having regular contact with athletes.The discussion then moves towards individualizing training approaches for athletes. Dr. Heenan emphasizes the uniqueness of each athlete and the importance of considering their mental and physical condition when determining the appropriate training program. He likens the use of different training tools to the appropriate use of tools, highlighting the need for careful consideration and customization.Dr. Heenan believes in having a wide range of knowledge to refer clients to the appropriate specialists when needed. The importance of balancing health and well-being with safety is stressed. For younger athletes, he sees strength and conditioning coaches as educated big brothers, guiding them.The episode concludes with a focus on specific movements and techniques in training. Dr. Heenan explains the distinction between low threshold and high threshold strategies. [00:04:11] The changing role of strength and conditioning.[00:11:29] Orthopedics, movement, and neurological assessments in humans.[00:18:33] Control spine, proper movement, athletes' performance.[00:29:25] Pro athletes need rest and specific training.[00:34:16] Narrowed down strength metrics for baseball players.[00:43:18] Simple nutrition: 1000 calories before 9 AM.[00:48:38] Phone display colors impact engagement and well-being.[00:53:51] Angles and positioning are key in training.[00:57:12] Unique athletes find their right path.[01:03:29] Josh, thank you for your time and knowledge.
This episode is a really exciting one because we are welcoming in a guest that has made more of an impact on Heather's journey than he probably knows or will ever know. Today we are talking to Dave Stachowiak (STA-HOE-VEE-AAK) the host and founder of Coaching for Leaders, a top-rated management podcast downloaded 30 million times. Coaching for Leaders is #1 search result for management on Apple Podcasts in the United States. With more than 15 years of leadership at Dale Carnegie and a thriving, global leadership academy, Dave helps leaders discover practical wisdom, build meaningful relationships, and create movement for genuine results. Dave and Heather go backDave is the founder of the Coaching for Leaders Academy, an exclusive, intensive leadership development cohort. An intimate group of participant leaders work personally with him to develop leadership excellence — and empower each other. His credentials include a doctoral degree in organizational leadership from Pepperdine University, several international business leadership awards from Dale Carnegie, and graduation from Coach U.Like most people, he's never had it all figured out. He's been passed up for promotions, failed at launching his first business, and still fights through an occasional fear of speaking to people.If you want to chat more about this topic, I would love to continue this conversation with you, over on Instagram.In this episode, you will learn:* How and when Dave and Heather first met over 10 years ago. [3:38]* How the Coaching for Leaders Academy taught Dave something that he never anticipated happening and how it was then the Coaching for Leaders podcast took off. [6:59]* How a frustrating moment in Dave's car started his desire to start his own podcast. [9:08]* Daves time at Dale Carnegie and where he thought his career was going was the second and final piece that truly motivated him to start Coaching for Leaders [9:08]* As a busy husband and new dad with a full time job at Dale Carnegie and teaching part time in the evenings Dave only had 2 hours a week to work on his podcast. He shares how this was actually a benefit to him and how it helped him not spiral into his perfectionist tendencies. [14:38]* Dave shares how learning how to simply start and try has changed his entire mindset on how he had always done things previously and is now what he intentionally leans into it as a leader. [21:25]* Dave and Heather talk about Dave's personal journey on how as a new leader what you can do to get your message out in the beginning and connect with your audience. His 3 point strategy in the beginning was to 1) Air his show every week 2) Is the audio quality good? 3) Is it useful to people? These 3 points are still true in his business today and why they should be in yours too. [21:25]* Dave shares how and why he wrote the article, How to Respond When People Are Talking Too Much, for his Coaching for Leadership Plus. [27:42]* Dave and Heather share past experiences, tips, examples and advise on how to keep your virtual meetings on task when you have someone who just keeps talking. Dave dives into how when you always come back to the purpose of the meeting it will make it easier to keep everyone on track as the facilitator. [33:07]* Dave shares how and why some meetings should simply be just for connecting, especially now in the virtual space. He shares a past experience back when he was working at Dale Carnegie and how this affected him and how he uses this strategy now. [37:22]* As Dave and Heather wrap up their conversation they both share their takeaways from what they shared with each other today. Resources and links mentioned in this episode:* Connect with Dave at CoachingforLeaders.com! * Newsletter Sign-Up at thepolkadotdesk.substack.com!Social Links:* Connect with me on Instagram here: @msheatherbdot @connectthedots_podcast* Check out the Youtube channel!* Connect the Dots website!* https://www.buymeacoffee.com/msheatherbdotLaughter, Love, and Blessings,Heather This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thepolkadotdesk.substack.com
David Goldsmith joins us once again, and we kick off the conversation by touching on the transformative properties of coaching, specifically through open-hearted connection and honesty. We share stories from our experiences as coaches, and David leaves a breadcrumb trail of wisdom throughout the conversation, and before we wrap up Act 2, shares some of the best advice for anyone considering coaching – bring it all to the table, seek challenge, and be ready to work. One of the founders of the coaching profession, David worked closely with Thomas Leonard, served as the first president of Coach U and later went on to lead CoachInc.com. He trained the first Japanese coaches, wrote the Dear Coach column for the Sunday London Times and co-founded the Foundation of Coaching which later became the Institute of Coaching at Harvard.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-goldsmith-14856/Website: https://www.7pathsforward.com/
David Goldsmith shares his story of growing up in the suburbs of New York City, alongside a plethora of interesting, intelligent and important people who helped shape the fabric of his community. He talks about his inability to fit in during High School, not really ever identifying with one particular group - likely fueled by a desire to grow up quickly - and the impact of connecting with people throughout his career, ultimately leading him towards work that he was born to do. David closes Act 1 by dissecting the type of people who are built for coaching, and how this emerging industry has allowed people like him to give something back to the world.One of the founders of the coaching profession, David worked closely with Thomas Leonard, served as the first president of Coach U and later went on to lead CoachInc.com. He trained the first Japanese coaches, wrote the Dear Coach column for the Sunday London Times and co-founded the Foundation of Coaching which later became the Institute of Coaching at Harvard.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-goldsmith-14856/Website: https://www.7pathsforward.com/
ParentingAces - The Junior Tennis and College Tennis Podcast
Welcome to Season 12 Episode 15 of the ParentingAces Podcast, a proud member of the Tennis Channel Podcast Network. This week, Lisa chats with Stanford Men's Tennis player, Anders Matta, and the creator of CoachU, Adrian Levitt, about leveraging NIL opportunities to help both college and junior players. If you've been listening to the podcast for a while, you know how Lisa feels about the importance of mentors, both for coaches and for parents and players. CoachU is filling a void by creating a platform where college players can take advantage of the still new NIL rules to earn money while in school AND junior players can be mentored by these more-experienced players who are living the life they aspire to. Adrian grew up in a tennis family and saw his brother go through the entire junior and college tennis process. Anders is currently a college player, balancing academics and tennis at Stanford while trying to gain some work experience that will help him get a job after he graduates. In this episode, you will hear both men talk about what CoachU can do for the college athletes AND for the junior athletes and why it solves many issues present in our sport. To learn more about CoachU and how it can help your player(s), visit the website at https://withcoachu.com/. You can also follow them on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/w.coachu/ and LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/coachu/. You can contact Adrian directly at 610-962-6608 (cell) or adrian@withcoachu.com. If you're so inclined, please share this – and all our episodes! – with your tennis community. You can subscribe to the podcast on iTunes or via your favorite podcast app. If you haven't already, be sure to become a Member of ParentingAces by visiting https://parentingaces.com/membership-join. And check out our logo'd merch as well as our a la carte personal consultations in our online shop (Premium Members received FREE SHIPPING every day!). To support ParentingAces' work with a financial donation of any size via PayPal, click here. CREDITS Intro & Outro Music: Morgan Stone aka STØNE Audio & Video Editing: Lisa Stone Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Host Michael Rand and Star Tribune columnist Patrick Reusse take a trip through the weekend in sports, which included two losses for the Timberwolves and an ankle sprain for star Anthony Edwards. With just 10 games left in the regular season, time is running out for the depleted Wolves. 12:00: The Gophers men's hockey team lost the Big Ten title game to Michigan, but Reusse still thinks this is a team -- as the No. 1 overall NCAA tournament seed -- that has a great chance to win the program's first national title in 20 years. 19:00: The Gophers hired Dawn Plitzuweit to coach the women's basketball team and will introduce her at a news conference today. Plus thoughts on the transfer portal, the Wild and the Twins.
Today's Co-Hosts: Ben Criddle (@criddlebenjamin) Subscribe to the Cougar Sports with Ben Criddle podcast:Apple Podcastshttps://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cougar-sports-with-ben-criddle/id996764363Google Podcastshttps://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3ByZWFrZXIuY29tL3Nob3cvMTM2OTkzOS9lcGlzb2Rlcy9mZWVkSpotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/7dZvrG1ZtKkfgqGenR3S2mPocket Castshttps://pca.st/SU8aOvercasthttps://overcast.fm/itunes996764363/cougar-sports-with-ben-criddle-byuSpreakerhttps://www.spreaker.com/show/cougar-sports-with-ben-criddleStitcherhttps://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=66416iHeartRadiohttps://www.iheart.com/podcast/966-cougar-sports-with-29418022TuneInhttps://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports-Talk--News/Cougar-Sports-with-Ben-Criddle-p731529/
Shenandoah Chefalo is a graduate of Michigan State University, holding a Bachelor of Arts with a Major in Interdisciplinary Studies in Social Science, a Core Essentials Graduate from Coach U, and a member of the Foster Leaders Movement. She is a sought after speaker on topics surrounding youth in foster care, and has been featured as a guest locally, nationally and internationally. A survivor and alumni of the foster care system, Shenandoah Chefalo is also the co-founder of the Good Harbor Institute, which translates evidence-based research on trauma into skills that can be used immediately and everyday. At Good Harbor Institute they believe that knowing is not enough. Skills + Action = Healing. In additional to her book, Garbage Bag Suitcase, she also wrote an e-book entitled Setting Your Vision and Defining Your Goals, and is also working on her next manuscript, Hiking for Stillness.
In episode 61 of the Professional Builders Secrets podcast, we're joined by one of the executive business coaches at APB, Dennis Wong. Throughout this episode, Dennis shares what builders should be considering and doing to get new work …fast. INSIDE EPISODE 61 YOU WILL DISCOVER The importance of always having your eyes on new work Why builders need work fast and current trends in the industry The best practices in acquiring new clients How not to compromise net profit just to find work quickly The key metrics when looking for new work And much, much more. Listen to the full episode to find out exactly how professional builders are acquiring new work fast without compromising their bottom line. ABOUT DENNIS WONG Based in Sydney, Australia, Dennis Wong is one of the Australasian Executive Business Coaches at the Association of Professional Builders. A Coach-U and FocalPoint Coaching accredited business coach also serving on the Executive Committee of the Asia Pacific Alliance of Coaches (APAC), Dennis now works exclusively with owners of residential building companies in Australia and New Zealand that are looking to fast-track their results. Connect with Dennis: linkedin.com/in/denniswong TIMELINE 1:43 Why builders need new work fast 6:32 Best practices in new acquisition 11:55 Do not compromise on quality just to find work quickly 18:58 What to consider when taking on new work 24:49 Knowing your Avatar is crucial 26:12 Time - the highest priority LINKS, RESOURCES & MORE APB Website: associationofprofessionalbuilders.com APB on Instagram: instagram.com/apbbuilders/ APB on Facebook: facebook.com/associationofprofessionalbuilders APB on YouTube: youtube.com/c/associationofprofessionalbuilders Join the Professional Builders Secrets Facebook group for builders & connect with professional builders world-wide: facebook.com/groups/builderssecrets
We are going into the new year to zap those things we tolerate in three areas of our lives: home, work, and community. "To tolerate means allowing the existence of something, to permit or endure something, to put up with something. This implies that something (or someone) is less than desirable or ideal and tends to drain a person's energy. Tolerance is often a hindering influence. " (Coach U). Let's elevate by living to our true selves and welcoming growth. Look up, and let's elevate. https://linktr.ee/genthebuilder
Claire Pedrick was speaking at the ICF Conference in 2019 when a publisher approached her and said: “Have you got a book in you?”That book is Simplifying Coaching, and in it Claire offers a rallying cry for filtering out the noise of the coaching industry and honing in on the very human essence of transformative conversations.In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Claire traces the steps that led her into a burgeoning coaching landscape around the turn of the century and reflects on the precious lessons learned from moments that sometimes felt like missteps.She shines a light on the “guru-ing” and “pedestal-ing” that can lead to problematic power dynamics in coaching, and shares the foundational values such as equity and fairness that underpin the success of 3D Coaching and saw her recognised with the 2022 Outstanding Contribution to Coaching Award from Henley Business School.Claire is a master of the art of communicating complicated things simply, but admits it took a long time to have the confidence to cut through complexity and offer straightforward truths when coaching or mentoring coaches.Listening to her speak, you cannot fail to appreciate the fundamental importance of her approach, which is explained with refreshing clarity. In this episode, we talk about:Whether we have to be the things we want to develop in people The impact of modelling the boundaries we setThe holy ground in the coaching space and how to interact with itBeing wise about how many coffees to have with someone and still call it workLearning how to be silent and how to wait while coaching clients are doing good workClaire also talks about how to value your time, how to balance delivery and business development, and the importance of – as coaches – telling the truth about ourselves.To learn more about Claire, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairepedrick/For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Robbie's upcoming event, How to Be More Productive (and why time management won't help you): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/how-to-be-more-productive-and-why-time-management-wont-help-you-tickets-470005598397 - Claire's podcast, The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/- Sarah Cartwright https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-cartwright-28659815/ - Claire's book, Simplifying Coaching https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56199938-simplifying-coaching - Alex Swallow http://alexswallow.com/about/ - Robbie's 100 podcast challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge - Transforming Conversations https://www.3dcoaching.com/transforming-conversations/- Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3228917-outliers - Ed Watson https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-watson-training - Good Housekeeping https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/- Thomas Leonard https://coachville.com/connect/founder-thomas-leonard/ - Coach U https://www.coachu.com/home/- 3D Coaching https://www.3dcoaching.com/- Moneypenny https://www.moneypenny.com/uk/- Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals, by Oliver Burkeman https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/54785515-four-thousand-weeks - Phil Bolton and Inga Umblija on The Coach's Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula- Barry Ennis on The Coach's Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire- Reid Hoffman https://www.reidhoffman.org/- Robbie appearing on The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale-how-to-start-when-you-re-stuck/ - Vegard Olsen coachingpartner.net- Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ - ILM https://www.i-l-m.com/ - John Blakey https://johnblakey.co.uk/
To watch the video of our interview: click here Want to know how you can align your chakras with your work, feel more confidant, and do your work in the world with ease - knowing you're legally covered? Find out Lisa's top 3-Tips to protect your energy and business through specific legal documents. I did, and it changed everything for me. Find out how in today's interview with, Lisa Fraley. Lisa Fraley, JD is an Attorney, Legal Coach®, Speaker, #1 Best-Selling Author of Easy Legal Steps and the host of the “Legally Enlightened” podcast on iTunes. As a Holistic Lawyer®, Lisa blends her legal expertise as a former health care attorney in a large corporate law firm with the care of a Health & Life Coach through IIN & CoachU. She's helped thousands of health coaches, holistic practitioners, spiritual guides, and online business owners protect their businesses & brands with contracts, disclaimers, trademarks and more.Lisa shares her “Legal Love” through DIY legal templates, online courses, and 1:1 services and speaks on stages from British Columbia to the Bellagio. She's uniquely known for aligning legal steps with the chakras. Lisa's mission is to help small business owners understand that the law can be accessible, empowering, loving, and even spiritual. Lisa graduated from Case Western Reserve School of Law with a concentration in health law and she holds a Certificate in Sustainable Business Strategy from Harvard Business School Online. Get free legal tips and learn more at lisafraley.com. To get Lisa's book, Easy Legal Steps - that are also good for your Soul, click here.
Our mission is to give you tools and strategies that will help you move from being stressed to feeling your best.Our guest is Shenandoah Chefalo. Shenandoah Chefalo is a graduate of Michigan State University (holding a Bachelor of Arts with a Major in Interdisciplinary Studies in Social Science), a Core Essentials Graduate from Coach U, a Certified Law of Attraction Advanced Practitioner, a member of the National Speakers Association, and author of Garbage Bag Suitcase the true story of her dysfunctional journey through a childhood with neglectful, drug-and alcohol addicted parents.Shen wrote a memoir about her child and time in foster care after realizing her story could help others heal and create awareness about the broken foster care system. Now, Shen works to help organizations understand why trauma awareness is vital to changing the way we do business and helping to promote equitable access for all children. Co-hosts Deb Timmerman and Barb Fletcher are certified HeartMath® Trainers, and certified stress educators, who are skilled at helping people discover the power of living form the heart. To take the Stress and Wellbeing Assessment in Canada, click here. To take the Stress and Wellbeing Assessment in the US, click here.
Dr Pat Williams is the Guru of emotional nakedness! Psychologist, turned professional Coach and founder of The Institute for Life Coach Training, Dr Pat waxes lyrical on the familiar questions posed by Emma, and delivers some 'edgy questions' of his own in return. Prepare yourself for memorable metaphors; I call coaching snorkeling, the coach as explorer, I'm like a sheep in wolves' clothing and getting naked; be your authentic self, just don't get naked with everybody! Dr Pat's brother (lawyer) said to him once:"This coaching profession is interesting. You get paid for asking questions, that neither you, nor your client, know the answer to, and I get paid for asking questions that I already know the answer to as a lawyer." Discover why Dr Pat is willing to be comfortable not knowing all the answers!! What's next, in this rapid-fire episode; Vegemite; What's your take? 1:18 Great Coaching Moment: Here to ask the questions that others don't 2:00 Coaching Moment on the flipside: hired because of my laugh! 3:45 Sliding Doors: I'm no longer a psychologist - I'm a coach! 6:25 Metaphor of life: Explorers 8:10 What makes a great coach? 9:40 Expert Witness: A willingness to be comfortable not knowing. 10:54 We're not a guru! What did the inspirational student say to the guru? 11:55 What's that one question that sparks your curiosity? 12:25 Work Life Balance Myth: We are in a constant state of motion - balance is only a fleeting moment. 16:35 Concept of Adaptability 17:40 What would be a question, that I could ask you now, that would make a difference? 18:22 What's next? 18:50 Normalise Living: Exploring the moment 20:00 Experiences that Inform 21:20 Think out loud with a committed listener. 23:19 I Call Coaching Snorkeling - just under the surface, there's a different perspective 24:30 Getting Naked - Be your authentic self, just don't get naked with everybody! 25:14 What's something you don't share with people? 29:35 Edgy Questions 31:07 The Power of Eight - Attention to Intention 34:53(Note: learn more here about Lynne McTaggart) How do you set an intention? 38:00 We had to go there: Golf – your brain doesn't understand “don't hit it in the lake!” 38:00 “Learn what you're learning, while you're learning it.” Timothy Gallwey 46:00 Have a self-reflecting practice. 50:00 https://www.lifecoachtraining.com/ Dr Patrick Williams, Ed.D., MCC, is founder of The Institute for Life Coach Training, the first-of-its-kind training institute that specializes in training psychotherapists, psychologists, counselors and helping professionals in building a successful coaching practice. He is a licensed psychologist who began executive coaching in 1990 with Hewlett Packard, IBM and Kodak. He joined Coach U and was an International Coach Federation founding member. Dr. Pat is a past ICF board member and past president of ACTO, (Association of Coach Training Organizations) and honorary VP of the International Society for Coaching Psychology He co-authored Therapist as Coach: Transforming Your Practice and Total Life Coaching: 50+ Life Lessons, Skills, and Techniques to Enhance your Practice and Your life. His best-selling book (with Diane Menendez), is Becoming a Professional Life Coach: Lessons from the Institute for Life Coach Training, and he co-edited Law and Ethics of Coaching, used at many academic institutions and training schools. Pat's background education is in Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychology, with specialized training in Psychosynthesis. He has been a leader in the field of professional coaching and speaks worldwide. His newest book, Getting Naked: On Emotional Transparency at the Right Time, the Right Place and with the Right Person is available on Amazon and audiobooks.
Work & Life Balance | Managing Life, Career, Marriage, & Faith | The Latika Vines Show
When making career history, it's important to have the right coach, mentor, and/or advisor to help guide your plan and goals. But, how do you find the right coach to help you? What questions should you ask? How often should you meet? What should the two of you be discussing during your time together? In this episode of The Latika Vines Show, our guest, Heather Wylde Smith shares the six steps in finding the right coach. Her advice allows you to identify who is the best fit for you and how to search for them while investing your time and money wisely. Her six steps to finding the right coach include: Follow them for 2-3 months Check out their free training/content Read the reviews and testimonials Invest in a low to mid-cost ticket item Get on a discovery call Do not sign up without a contract or agreement To learn more about her six steps, order your copy at: https://heatherwylde.com/survival-guide Heather Wylde Smith is a native of North Georgia, raised in the birthplace of NASCAR and the Moonshine Capital of the World. She jokes that she's a highly evolved Redneck/Hillbilly. Although she has a tragedy resume a mile long, she is living proof that our pasts only define us — if we let them. She often says: “Therapy kept me from jumping off a building. Personal Growth made me stop wanting to jump off a building.” Through the relentless pursuit of health and happiness, she has overcome: • Stage 3 Breast Cancer • Mental/Emotional/Sexual Abuse and Trauma • Drug Addiction • And more! Her tremendous success with personal growth leads her to become a coach. She received her initial coaching training through Coach U in 2009. Today, she is the mad genius behind Wylde Coach LLC. She's an Ethical Sales Expert for ambitious purpose-driven coaches and healers who want to effectively sell their services, without feeling like they are selling their souls. She specializes in consultation-style sales that use genuine human connection and positive sales psychology to enroll the most qualified clients in a way that is respectful, caring, and ethical. To connect with Heather, go to https://heatherwylde.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherwyldecoach/#experience ***** Latika Vines is an Author, Entrepreneur, and Working Mom of 4. As the Founder, Career Development Strategist, and Coach of Visionary Initiatives, she has made it her mission to help working moms build opportunities for their success by redefining how they manage their life, career, and/or business. To learn more about Latika and to join her mailing list to gain additional career growth and work and life balance resources, please visit: https://www.visionary-initiatives.com/ If you are looking for a community of like-minded working moms ready to be the Boss of their Careers and Life, join the private Facebook group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/bossmomtribe Sign Up to Receive the bi-monthly Career Development Resource Newsletter at https://mailchi.mp/visionary-initiatives.com/newsletter Connect with Latika: https://twitter.com/latika_vines | www.visionary-initiatives.com | thelatikavinesshow@gmail.com Check out our apparel and accessories at https://www.visionary-initiatives.com/shop Thank you for supporting The Latika Vines Show. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/latika-vines/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/latika-vines/support
INTRODUCTION: Heather Wylde Smith is a native of North Georgia, raised in the birthplace of NASCAR and the Moonshine Capital of the World. She jokes that she's a highly evolved Redneck/Hillbilly. Although she has a Tragedy Resume a mile long, she is living proof that our pasts only define us — if we let them. She often says: “Therapy kept me from jumping off a building. Personal Growth made me stop wanting to jump off a building.” Through relentless pursuit of health and happiness, she has overcome: • Stage 3 Breast Cancer• Mental/Emotional/Sexual Abuse and Trauma• Drug Addiction• And more! Her tremendous success with personal growth lead her to become a coach. She received her initial coaching training through Coach U in 2009.Today, she is the CEO and mad genius behind Wylde Coach LLC. She's a Biz Coach for ambitious purpose-driven coaches, healers and service providers who want to expand into their next-level selves in order to attract dreamier clients, raise their prices & restructure their businesses for maximum impact, profit and fulfillment. Heather's new book (Online Entrepreneur's Survival Guide) is available @ https://amzn.to/3mnUbxb She's available as a Guest Speaker/Expert and for Podcast interviews. Her blend of biz expertise, practical tips and outlandish humor make her a dynamic guest that your audience will eat up with a spoon! INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to): · Pitfalls To Watch Out For In The Coaching Industry· Difference Between A Consultant & A Coach· The Hypnotherapy Of Stagecraft· NLP – Neurolinguistic Programming And Mind Tricks To Be Aware Of· How Trauma Plays Into Sales· How FOMO Is Used Dishonestly· The Danger Of Making Rushed Decisions· What Is The Soul Behind Why You Do What You Do?· What Should Be Included In A Contract· Possible Vs. 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This application streamlines the process of finding guests for your show and also helps you find shows to be a guest on. The PodMatch Community is a part of this and that is where you can ask questions and get help from an entire network of people so that you save both money and time on your podcasting journey.https://podmatch.com/signup/devannon TRANSCRIPT: [00:00:00]You're listening to the sex drugs and Jesus podcast, where we discuss whatever the fuck we want to! And yes, we can put sex and drugs and Jesus all in the same bed and still be all right at the end of the day. My name is De'Vannon and I'll be interviewing guests from every corner of this world as we dig into topics that are too risqué for the morning show, as we strive to help you understand what's really going on in your life.There is nothing off the table and we've got a lot to talk about. So let's dive right into this episode.De'Vannon: Hey, y'all has a wild is back with a brand new book. It's their second time on the show. And I'm so thrilled to have her. Now, this book is called the survivor's guide to entrepreneurship, and this book is going to help people avoid fake business coaches and bullshit like that, and how to avoid debt and regroup.Now in this conversation, we've gone to explore how neuro-linguistic programming also known as NLP and mind tricks play into sales and the traps you [00:01:00] should be looking out for when talking about how FOMO fear of missing out is used this honestly, and what should be included in contracts before we sign them.And of course, Heather and I share our old cocaine stories because that's the type of shit we do enjoy the episode. Hey bitch, have a wild what's the tape.Heather: What's up. De'Vannon: Hey girl. Hey N so y'all, we got, have the wall back with us for the second time, and we got some new shit to talk about. Cause he just dropped up fresh a book on the globe called online entrepreneurs, survival guide, how to choose the right business coach. And there's some other little words after that, but I'm too fucking lazy to read them.And but it's a very beautiful pink, black and white cover book. And pink is very on-brand whether you have there, that's [00:02:00] kind of like your thing. I'm channeling a living, John from Greece.Heather: the pink ladies. De'Vannon: The pink ladies and then the pink version of that black cat suit that she had on at the, at the end of the moving, whether, when they were doing the other one in that wall, she had on the all black, well, when they did like the grease reunion thing, she wore a pink version of that. All black pants, patent, leather, leather suit, she wore pink version of it to the after partyHeather: I have forgotten that I'm gonna have to go back and I have an ex that that was his favorite movie. And so I've kind of steered away from it for like 15 years. De'Vannon: breaking up is hard to do. Okay. So just to recap, y'all Heather has survived stage three breast [00:03:00] cancer. She's been through some mental, emotional, and sexual abuse type of things along with all sorts of trials. You had her own a drug addiction shit to deal with. And you know what, but prostitution, perhapsHeather: you know, 16 work taken 16 years worth. I mean, it's just a bit of prostitution now. De'Vannon: a little bit of pussy DLN on the side and stuff like that. Go along with the cocaine. You know, they do pair well together. We can just ask we can ask them that gates and the, the, the guy who wants to be the speaker of the house, who I pray never will be one of those Republicans. Cause their cocaine orgy shit, just, you know, that T does came out a few days ago.So Heather: Bored. De'Vannon: I'm not judging them for having cocaine or do cause I'm just judging them for oh, telling women what to do with their bodies.Heather: Right? Well, cocaine and orgies is a really dumb [00:04:00] combination because for men it usually gives them performance issues. Meth is much better for orgies because it makes you hard and you can't come for hours. De'Vannon: I've been in the room expecting to get my booty hole filled with all kinds of jazz. And it didn't happen because the dude had coped Dick.Heather: Hope Dick is, is a real fucking thing. And you know, for women, I've seen people, people fetishize Coke. It's so funny. I remember being with this couple when I was escorting and they're like putting the Coke, like directly on her clit and then like licking it off. And I'm like, you just numbed her cliteracy she is never going to be able to come.It's just not a good idea. Anyway, we digress. De'Vannon: No, I tried, I, I snorted a couple of lines of a hard Dick before, seem to mind.Heather: Well, that's because you were doing it. Like I was paid thousands of dollars, you know, to be [00:05:00] a coat mirror for somebody, like I just laid there and they just kept snorting Coke off my boots, my back, my butt, whatever. But then they were. Going to the door and shutting it. Have you been with these people?Like I got to shut the door, so they get up and they shut it. And then two minutes later, they're like, I got to go open the door and then they'll stay in there and the door and they'll look, cause they've gotten, they've reached their point of paranoia. That is annoying as fuck B the Coke mirror didn't bother me dealing with the paranoia was like, oh, there's nobody there.De'Vannon: Well, I've been the paranoid one. So I can't, you know, it is what it is. I can't you know, I can't really, you know, everyone has their roles to play, but nobody's trying to intentionally hurt anyone. So you're, they're making your money there. They're freaking out. Cause they did a bump too many. I've been there a few times.Heather: Yeah, thankfully I'm, I'm allergic to Coke. And so if I snorted it, I would get a sinus infection for a month. [00:06:00] And so I would eat it, but it doesn't give you the same kind of high. Right. And so I never got paranoid off of it. And I mean, you know, I wasn't like, oh my God, you're a deficient person for doing this.I was just like, God, this is boring. De'Vannon: Those were the fucking days. Oh my Heather: were interesting, interesting days. I'm glad that I had them. And I'm glad that I don't have them anymore. De'Vannon: The most, one of the most paranoid trips that I had when I had shot away too much meth. And I was at the VA hospital in Houston and I was, I just, I would just, I was hearing like keys jingle. I thought the cops were coming to get me and I'm in, I'm in, I'm in an emergency room. The cops just can't walk in there and get you.But I'm thinking, I'm hearing the sounds of them coming, like, like their keys and shit. And so. The nurses got so fucking pissed off with me and my paranoia. They gave me a couple of pills to take wait for three days, [00:07:00] I slept through the whole 72 hours. Coroner's home. They were done with my ass.Like this bitch said, babysitting my ass all the way down for three days, I woke up. I was in a completely new clothes. I was in the hospital's probes. I didn't change. They,the doctor was using when those codes over things, a scrape under my foot, trying to get me to wake up and he was reading. The nurses are fail to tell him the hell in her. She gave me too damn much, met too much medicine, but she done with my ass. And soHeather: oh, wow. Yeah, that, that was excessive. De'Vannon: Well, I am a Sagittarius. It's not like this as for, into my demeanor. Heather: Okay. De'Vannon: All right. Y'all so Heather's book is called online entrepreneurs. So in this book, she is trying to open your eyes to [00:08:00] the bullshit, the pitfalls, the scandals, hashtag a scandal and the, and the deceptions that tend to prevail in this whole business coaching mentor guru world.Now tell us why you wrote this book and what qualifies you to have written it.Heather: So what qualifies me to write it is that I have been in this world for 13 years, and I really both as a student of personal growth and as a coach, as a struggling coach and what I, and I've invested in myself over and over again, you'll hear people say, you have to invest in yourself if you want to get anywhere.And it's true. But you have to be smart about your investments. And because I came in with kind of, to my rose colored glasses were a little too rosy, and I looked at this height, marketing is what I call it.you know, where this false promises and they're blowing everything out of proportion. And I [00:09:00] swallowed it hook, line and sinker because I was like, okay, I'm here to help people.I'm a coach. These people are coaches. We're all here to help people. So they're not going to lie to me. Right. So I came in and was very, very, very naive. And I spent a lot of money and didn't really get anywhere. And I spent years blaming myself for it as so many other entrepreneurs do. And wondering what was wrong with me.I'm like, you know, I'm a very good, I'm very much a go getter. You know, I'm an action taker. I'm smart. I'm passionate. I'm a good coach. Why can't I get this? And thinking there was something wrong with me. And then in the past couple of years, I started, I don't know, talking to more people about this, I started to understand more and more about what's going on behind the marketing, why I kept making bad decisions and still, you know, owning the, I made them, you know, but really understanding what's going on with the marketing and the sales in the coaching industry that makes it really difficult to find the right coach.And the book is [00:10:00] written toward new entrepreneurs, but is actually really helpful for more advanced entrepreneurs. People who are actually working with clients to understand why they're still struggling, you know, while they're not getting the $10,000 a month, $20,000 a month that everybody talks about. And it also, if you're just a student of personal or spiritual growth or you're somebody. Is interested in hiring a health coach, like the information in this, it's really all about helping you to see the truth behind the marketing and the sales tactics, and know how to research and how to interview potential coaches so that you find the people that are actually going to help you make progress, as opposed to the people that are just going to take your money.And they really don't care if you get results or not. De'Vannon: When you say that Heather? I think about, so like when I was starting down under apparel that calm my clothing company, which I also have a numb here in Southern Louisiana. Not exactly known for high fashion, certainly not skimping man panties and things like that. Heather: Right. [00:11:00]De'Vannon: No, there was a guy. Heather: Well, there's That part of urban street.De'Vannon: That one part of urban history.There's this guy online who has a store in Oregon. And and I reached out to him and I think I had asked him just to like, so some advice, you know, on like what to do and stuff like that, the sort of thing that I would freely give away to somebody. And he responded with like his coconut Salton packaging, but he has now he's an underwear retailer who owns an underwear store, but he's also trying to be a consultant too.And he's telling me, you know, I've got to fly him to Louisiana and pay him like however many thousands of dollars to to get his system down. Because in your book, you warn about this one size fits all thing. And I kind of felt like he was trying to do that. I'm like, wait a minute, you haven't done a market analysis.You haven't, you don't know how many people are here with the population is. You don't know what, you know, what I'm selling or you don't know anything. And yet you're already telling me how much you're [00:12:00] going to charge and what you can promise me is going to happen. This cannot be, you know, it didn't feel right.So it seems like some people may hop into trying to be a coach too soon because with him, and I've seen this before, like, so is it like an arrogance thing, you know, is he thinking more highly of himself that he should because he's been successful on his one end or does he think people are that damn stupid and he can take advantage of them?Is it a little bit of both?Heather: So it was a couple of things, you know, there's a couple of things that I see that are going on. Number one there's a lot of people like Brendon Burchard comes to mind. A lot of people know Brendon Burchard and some of his stuff is really good. And some of the stuff is really inspiring, but he's one of these big mega coaches and his, I don't know, I haven't watched, I haven't followed him in years, but you know, as of five, six years ago, he was [00:13:00] still preaching that like, you don't have to be trained as a coach.All you need is. Your life experience something you're good at, and you can monetize it, then you can make thousands of dollars and blah, blah, blah. So a lot of it has been created by the coaching industry, telling people what they want to hear in order to, you know, it was for these business coaches that get on and they're like, Yeah. you know, you're a brand new coach.You've never had any training. You have no out, you know, you've never had formal training and whatever it is that you're trying to do, yes, you should use, you should be charging people at least a thousand dollars an hour, you know, And they do this so, that they can sell their coaching packages. Right. So there is a lot of the businesses are unregulated. There is a certification there's at least one like really respected certification process through the international coaching Federation. But. You know, even that whole system isn't perfect, you know, and I don't believe that you have to be certified, but you should be trained as a coach. Okay. So there's, there's number [00:14:00] one.Number two, a lot of people will go through a business coaching program or they'll have their own successful business and then they'll decide, okay, I can help other people with this. And they don't. Some of them are. Realize that just because something works for you doesn't mean it's going to work for somebody else's business.The one thing that God was doing right is he was calling himself a consultant. so the difference between a consultant as a coach is that a consultant comes in and they give you a system and they really don't help you customize it and tweak it. They're just sold on the fact that their system is gold, right?A lot of people that call themselves coaches are really more consultants. A coach really should be asking you questions and helping you figure out what is going to be best for you. And if they're are a specialty coach, like a life coach is really just asking questions. But if somebody is a business coach or some kind of, you know, weight loss coach or something, they should be teaching as well as helping you, you know, figure out what's going to be best for you and your lifestyle.And then you touched on the arrogance thing. And I had talked about this in the book. [00:15:00]There are narcissists and narcissists and sociopaths in all walks of life. They tend to be attracted to you know, politics a lot of CEOs and upper management, you know they just, they work really well in those environments.And I believe that they are very, very strongly attracted to the coaching industry, the personal growth world, because it's an opportunity for them to get thousands and thousands and tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of fawning fans plus make a lot of money. And they're really good in this world because their arrogance, like when somebody is really confidence and confident and they have a lot of authority, it's easy for them to sell to you because you're like, oh, clearly, you know, they know what they're doing.Like they're so confident in it. Right? So there's a lot of different things going on there that, that kind of answer your question. wonder.De'Vannon: Yeah. And so, so a big part of the purpose of your book is to help, to help people to [00:16:00] divine the nuances that will tell what somebodies intentions are. Because a lot of what I read through there, it's like very finite details. You know, like one flip of the switch, one way to the left or the right could make the difference in between whether or not a person's legitimate or not, or whether or not they're a good fit for you or not.These, there, there weren't like a whole lot of big gaping differences. This is very, very subtle. A lot of these things that you point out.Heather: Yeah.It, well, they look gaping to me and thank you for that feedback. They look deep into me because I've been staring at them for so long. Right. But yeah, to somebody that's new in the industry, like you come in and, or, you know, you're just coming in And you're like, oh, you know, I really want to learn Reiki or I want to Yeah.gosh, I mean, I want to have better relationships and you're just coming as an, as a consumer and you get online and it's just like, you're just inundated with so many people who are [00:17:00] like, I'm great at this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.But if you don't know how to right. Ask the right questions and you don't know what it is that you really need, like you can end up in things that don't fit. So for instance, one of my first clients, she had bought into a program that was, it was a business program and they were like, we can help any business.Our system, our system works for everybody. Right. And she gets in it and it's all about going live and she's terrified of going on camera. So she didn't, she didn't ask the question. You know, she, she just got caught up in the hype of, oh, our business. Our system works for everybody. Just come work with us and you're going to be, you know, you're going to make so much money.Your message is going to get out. Yada, yada. You know, we need to ask questions. It's like, okay, that's great. Now, how are we going to do this? You know, our, if you're a business coach, you know, are you going to help me with Facebook ads? Are you going to help me by going live? Are you going to show me you know, how to [00:18:00] really monetize reels?Like, what are you doing? Because there's some things that are going to be more in our wheelhouse than others. Right? We need stuff. That's going to play to our strengths and to our comfort level, especially in the beginning.De'Vannon: Right. And what you speak about confidence, the confidence that people have and they project themselves. I'm remind, I'm thinking about like the charity I'm thinking about hitting the therapy. So like, when I was getting my hypnotherapy training, you know, they explained to us how, when people are like, say up on an elevated platform in our minds, we automatically believe they know more than.But they don't necessarily, they don't necessarily have to have done anything to deserve it. We haven't fact checked anything about them just because they have a suit on and they're on a stage. Well, they must know more. It's just the way we as people are. And so there's warnings, you know, against that.And it'll, and why I'm saying that, so these, so these consultants, girls, whatever the fuck they want to call themselves, haven't done this in a way with [00:19:00] either their social media, but bolstering followers, getting reviews on their websites or whatever the case may be. Preachers do it all the time, you know, through having hypnotic, acquires and bands and all these things to make you feel good and everything like that.And you're too busy feeling good with what the speaker consultant preacher is saying. And you're not critically examining, what's being said, you'll do busy feeling good about what's happening. So your critical mind has been defeated because you're too busy with all the frills of shit, the Freeland shit.And so Our news is the same way. Yes, news politics. Sure.Heather: Yeah. Get you get people into their feelings and they don't, and they turn off their rational mind and their critical thinking. De'Vannon: That's exactly the way it works. Republicans and Democrats alike, but lately I would say more the Republicans because they don't really, they don't really push policies. You [00:20:00] know, they're more like against, you know, who can we be against today? We're going to be against the women who want abortions are going to be against people who want to get high.We're going to be against immigrants. You know, we're going to be against anyone who's not white and conservative basically. And and you know what, they got their little base that's for that and that, and they're all insecure in their own way, which is why they need to destroy other people in order to feel better about themselves.And so. you know, I go on that tirade because there's so much humanity, so much of the human condition. And when I say the human condition, I mean our weakness and our fallenness, the things that betray our highest selves wrapped up into this. And so we have broken people who want to go out and be consultants and girls and all of this and tell other people what to do, but they're not perfect themselves.Now, one thing I like about you like you have a, a chapter line in here, it says making money while being a major [00:21:00] force for positive change in the world, you know, you always tie your consultant, your business in with some sort of spiritual element. So that lets me know that you don't lose the the importance of the person that you're dealing with.And I think that this happens a lot, even in the one size fits all thinking like the guy from Oregon was trying to do with me, or like what you've seen and then not looking at the individual, you know, they're more concerned about the process than the person. So why do we allow ourselves to receive this sort of abuse? When somebody is dealing with us and they're just hitting numbers and figures and promises, and they're not really seeing us, but we're going to go and give them our money anyway.Heather: Yeah. So interesting question. So there's, I had a [00:22:00] conversation with somebody who was a kind of trauma informed. I've had a few conversations while I was writing the book. And a couple people were like trained in NLP and neuro-linguistic programming when used consensually and we're, you know, by the light side of the forest by a Jedi is an awesome thing.Like it can be deeply, positively transformational. The problem is, is that it's a subtle form of hypnosis. And so if you're using it in marketing and sales, which is what is happening you're, it's really, it's, it's really like your mind raping people into like paying attention to your marketing and buying from you.And I had another conversation with someone who specialty is in like regulating the nervous system, right? And people who need the most regulation of their nervous systems are people who have endured a lot of trauma or endured any trauma. Any, any trauma is, is Congo can dysregulate you. Right. And I asked and I said, do you feel like people [00:23:00] that are trauma survivors are more prone to falling for this?You know, these height marketing and I call it sociopathic sales to the manipulative belittling, shaming pushy sales types. Right. And I said, you know, do you feel like trauma survivors are more prone to falling for this? And she said, absolutely. And if you think about it, like so many people that are in the coaching world that are in, especially with people that are in it for the Right. reasons, we've had a journey where we've had to heal ourselves.We've had to go on this growth journey And we've kind of taken everything that we've learned from other people. And I say we, because I, I do transformational stuff too. I'm just kind of, I kind of ended up as a business coach kind of accident, but most of us have gone through some kind of healing and growth journey and we take all the stuff that we've learned and we kind of develop our own system.Right. And so a lot of the people that are coming into coaching are trauma [00:24:00] survivors. And so it makes sense that this really nasty marketing and sales is going to work on. Right. Cause there's still parts of us that we're working on healing and you know, like you said, you've got people that are jumping in and they're coaching and consulting and they are, they don't have their lives.Perfect. It's not about having your life. Perfect. Although a lot of people on social media try to make it look like they've got everything figured out. Like don't go work with those folks. That's a warning sign. Like nobody has it all figured out. But it's just about being further down the road than the person that you're helping.You're, you're further, you're a few steps ahead of them so that you can actually reach back and help them get a few steps further. And ideally you want to be working with people who have coaches themselves and are on still on a growth journey, right. Because the further they go, the further they can help you come as well.De'Vannon: Right. And y'all when she mentioned the neuro linguistic programming, the NLP and things like that, which is a subset of hip hypnotherapy. What she's talking about is [00:25:00] the subtle tones of voice inflections. Word choice. You can use different settings, music, colors, different Body language Body language and things like that, that you're not, you know, in these things invoke a response.So it's a difference if I say, Hey, how are you as opposed to, Hey, how are you? You know, it, it sets a different, it sends out a different vibe to wherever it is, I'm directing it towards. And so if you know how to use the right words with the right, phrasiology and the right tones, the right totals and things like that, you can shift and change the energy within a conversation to your liking.If you're dealing with somebody who's not aware of what the fuck you're doing. And so but this is why those Jedi mind tricks only work on the weak mind that no, one's going to be weak minded by the time they're done with your book.Heather: [00:26:00] Well, that's, that's the hope. And it's interesting you say that about, you know, it only works on people that don't know what you're doing. So there was a great article on medium that a woman, she had been trained in NLP and she had, she was really blasting the people that had trained her because she had paid $13,000 to come to this three week long.In-person. And they had hyped it up, though, this is all you need to start your business. You're going to be a master trainer. By the time you leave, yada yada yada yada. And she said, the first week of the training was amazing and they taught them so much and they were all practicing together. And she said, the second week they started using the same techniques.They had just taught them to try to push them into spending 7,000 more dollars to get the next level of training. And she said it was such a mind, fuck, because she's like, you guys just taught us this bullshit. And now you're trying to use it on us. But she said that out of the 30 people, 28 people signed up and she [00:27:00] said there were herself and one other holdout.And she said they did this whole exercise, which was a visualization exercise. And it was all about like being. It was something about lifeboats. I can't remember the specific name, but it was something about like being left behind, but it was all designed to just really undermine these last two people's inner knowing and make them sign up for this thing.And so it can work on people, even if they're aware, unfortunately. Right. You just have to, you have to be aware and you have to stop yourself and be like, wait a minute. Why am I doing this? Because I really think it's a good idea or because they've really put it in my head that if I don't do this by businesses never going to go anywhere, or I'm never going to get the man I want, or I'm never going to lose the weight I want or whatever. De'Vannon: Well, I will say those 20, those 28 people who were able to suck her into paying the additional 7,000 Heather were, they were probably, they were [00:28:00] freshly taught about this, but more to the point they were still. In the control of the people who taught them, they were still in their arena on their playing field, you know, at their conference, you know, they, you know, they, they were still, they were still on their field.They hadn't had time. Then they had time to go home and let it process yet. And that's why they didn't let them get out and get away from them because their mind was still open and receptive and in a state of hypnosis processing the information. So they still struck out the struggle. The iron was hot.Heather: Oh, absolutely. And that's why you see so many, you know sign up in the next 24 hours or the price is going up or, you know, like there's, there's healthy urgency. And I talk about this in the book, like toxic FOMO, Right. So there's, you know, a little bit of FOMO and marketing where it's like, okay, the doors are closing soon.I've only got three spots left. Right. And if the person is being [00:29:00] honest about that. Okay, fine. But when it goes into the toxic is like, we may never offer this program again. We're never going to offer this program at this price again. And I've seen, like, I've seen people send the same email out saying that for years about things.And so it's like, if you're interested in that program and you have the funds and it works for you right now, then go ahead and buy it. But don't break yourself, you know, trying to buy this thing because you're like, oh my God, they're never going to offer it again because chances are it's bullshit, you know, and never fall for someone.Who's like, I'm the only person who can help you. Like that person does not have your best interest at heart. It's like run like help.De'Vannon: Right. I've seen that recently where a person was like, you know, sign up. There's only two slots left, blah, blah, blah. It feels pushy. I don't like the energy. And so I want to offer this to people until you, you know, you can learn more about what Heather's talking about. You can read her book and learn about NLP and different things like that.[00:30:00] Sign up to take a class or two of hypnosis. I recommend the hypnosis motivation Institute, where I got my hypnotherapy training from you don't have to get the whole certification. You can just take like a class or two specific to what you would like to learn about and be done with it. You can do it online, but you, you, my prayer is that you are at least able to feel when something's not right.And that you don't ignore what that voice inside your head is telling you that disturbed feeling. Now you got to get quiet and listen to yourself. Don't make a decision when you're standing right in front of somebody always go home and think about it, period. Heather: yup. Yup. De'Vannon: Because you know, the, the spirit of that whole act now at quake, there's only two left.First of all, they're lying. They have, they have as many slots as they can feel because they're trying to make as much money as they possibly want to. So it's bullshit and they're not telling the truth. SoHeather: Sometimes sometimes, really like they are down to the wire and they really don't, you know, [00:31:00] don't, I wouldn't automatically dismiss somebody for saying that there's only a couple spots left. If they're trying to rush you. Like, if the rest of their stuff, like, I would note that maybe as a yellow flag, but take it in context.Does that make sense? De'Vannon: requires for research.Heather: Right. Right. You know, because yeah. Some people use it as height and some people, some people are art legit. Like my program is almost full, but I've got a couple more spots. Right. It's like the energy behind it, you know? But the people that are like act now act now out now a lot of that time, like you think about it.I talk about this in the book. If you think about like any hustle movie in econ movie you've ever seen, they're always rushing people because when we're, when we're being rushed, we're off bound. You know, anybody that's shaming you or belittling you, or trying to make you feel like you're never going to get anywhere.If you don't take action by buying from them. And right then that's a problem that person does not have your best interests at heart. [00:32:00]De'Vannon: Indeed in. I wanted to talk about this. I want to caveat a little bit here and to the book writing world, because I kind of pivot back to the importance of remembering the soul behind what you're doing. Now. I get some people more emotional and spiritually inclined than others, and it takes all sorts of people to make this world work.So it comes to writing books, like in the, in the, in the literary world of ghost writer is kind of along the lines of like a literary consultant. If you will, or coach, this is somebody who possesses, but you know, as it is understood more skilled than the person who has the content for the book, the ghost writer can guide the person who has the content into creating a manuscript that is legible and marketable, et cetera.Heather: Right. De'Vannon: So the experience that I had with, with the person who helped me write my first book[00:33:00] And it was a memoir and, you know, these things get personal, you know, when you,Heather: And this is the one that you,just put out, but I've been reading, right? Oh my God. Y'all it is so good. It's so good.De'Vannon: so thank you, baby. So it was your book. And so, but she, it gets personal and I would imagine the same way when you're consulting and coaching, and you're getting down into people's details. At some point you cross the line of just strictly professional to quasi professional and quasi friends and quads. I personal because you're not just seeing them once here and there, you know, you're all up in this person's tea, business, grits and everything.And so I paid him like $40,000 to get two to two packages together because I had a lot of information. It wasn't going to be a simple book and that price is in the middle. The highest I saw was like about 80, 90,000 for a ghost writer. And then as low as you want to go. And then it, since then, Because of what I was trying to [00:34:00] say, I w you know, I felt like it was in the middle and that's all fine, you know, a flu this person down here to Louisiana.So we can go to different cities and stuff like that. I really wanted an authentic read and, and, but, you know, I was new and I didn't, you know, I'm wanting to get into like contract negotiations and stuff with this, because like, as it is now, and I just hadn't had it to do over, I wouldn't, I would've made sure that I had like unlimited revisions or something like that.Heather: Sure. De'Vannon: So he only wanted to do like two or three revisions, but the book really wasn't done. And it was, was so not ready to put out. And then he wanted to come back after I've already paid 40,000. I spent probably another 10,000 and all the traveling and eating out and everything. And now he wants to switch it to $200 an hour to do further work.And so, you know, at that point I felt like. You know, the time that we had spent together and traveling and all of this and letting you know for what's in my memoir, [00:35:00] there's so much more that didn't get told. So he knows like so much about me personally. And I just felt like, and then moment, he stepped back to being just like strictly business with me.And, you know, that's something that I should have known from the beginning. You know, if you're gonna, if the, if the book is unacceptable after revisions two and three, you're going to switch to 200 an hour. You should have told me that at first, you know, not on the back end when you feel like I need you in order to complete it.So now I'm in a situation where I'm thinking, okay, that you intentionally kind of get a little sloppy towards the end of the book, knowing you wanted to turn around and charge me an additional 200, you know, I finished it myself. It's not like I can't write, I just wanted somebody else to have an objective, you know, look on it.And I had already written 50,000 words of it before. You know, turn the project over to him. So I was just like, you know, fuck, y'all just do it. You know, myself, I'm not going to let you hustle me like that. And so, so with the current ghost writer that I have, who's helping me on the don't call me a Christian [00:36:00] book, which will be out later this year, different contract, far less expensive.And if there's anything additional needed, then it's going to be on a per word basis. And I already know this upfront. Heather: right. De'Vannon: And so speak to me about contracts. When, when like a consultant now in the book, Heather breaks down the difference between a girl, a mentor, a consultant coach, all of that, you know, all of that.But when it comes down to the contract, what should we look for? What do we need to have? What should we avoid?Heather: Okay. So first off, I'm not a lawyer, so but here's, here's what you want. You definitely, if somebody doesn't have a contract, that's that scary, like they very least need to have something that makes it really clear, like what their duties are and what the expectations of what you're going to do. Really nails down, like timelines really nails [00:37:00] down, like you know, how many sessions we're going to have, how much time we're going to spend together, you know, those kinds of things.Right? So it's always, it's always good to have a lawyer look over things, you know, but especially in the beginning as coaches or if you're just hiring somebody, not because you want to become a coach, you're not working on anything for work or working on anything. A personal probably don't want to go pay a little. To go over it, but there needs to be confidentiality clauses, you know, in there. You know, you need to know that this person, isn't going to take your personal information and go ride a book of their own or, you know, just splash it all over social media or whatever. The biggest thing is like, and some of it you're just going to have to live in, learn, like, you know, demanding and you went into this and you're like, okay, 40 grand, this is middle, you know, middle of the road.I've done my research. You know, this should be fine. But sometimes there's things that we don't know until we, until we know. Right. [00:38:00] So it's good to have like really, really clear conversations and to ask questions about contracts. And if you've got somebody who is really being a pain in the ass about the contract, like they are like, if you're trying to ask them questions and trying to clarify things and they really don't want to answer, that's not a good sign.It's probably not somebody you want to mess with. But you can just ask questions. know, what happens, you know, how many revisions do I get? Like in the case of, of the book, you know with, you know, with coaching, one of the things that I really encourage people to do, because the old, the old way that's still being practiced by.A lot of people is to say, you signed this contract. It doesn't matter if, you know, three months it's two months in or whatever you decide that this isn't right for you. You're stuck paying for this no matter what, that's bullshit, you know that these non terminable con contracts are kind of. The coaching standard.Right. And so I encourage people to [00:39:00] just ask people like, Hey, if we get three weeks in and I can see that this isn't the right fit, because sometimes you can research and really do your due diligence and everything, but you don't know what it's going to be like until you're in it. Right. Like you can't, you can't guess what it's going to be like until you're actually in it.And you know, you find out, okay, this isn't working for me, you know, have a conversation. Well, what happens if I need to break this contract, if they don't have a termination clause in their contract, just because there's no termination clause doesn't mean that you can't get out of it. Right. So there's kind of a broad, general, anything the contracts like read it.It's legalized. It's lot to slog through. It's a pain in the ass, but read it and make sure you understand what's going on and ask questions, you know? And then if it is something like a project-based thing, like what Davanon went through, make sure you understand, like, what happens if you know the finished product isn't quite finished when you get done. You know, because it is, it is weird. Like you do develop a friendship with people, [00:40:00] you know, especially in longer-term projects. And I can't imagine, you know, how close you would have gotten to somebody that you've been traveling with and all that stuff. And, you know, as, as a service provider, we have to be, we have to be conscious that this is what we do for a living.Right. So we can't let you know, just because we like somebody, we can't like work for them for free. Right. But that's why it's so important. One of the reasons why it's so important to be so clear in the contract about what you're going to do and what you're not going to do, you know, but it is, it's weird every time, every time I've ever entered a coaching relationship or somebody has entered a coaching relationship with me, which has almost always been at the end of the agreed upon contract, it still feels like a breakup.Like it feels, it feels kind of personal. You kind of have to kind of like mourn it. You know, I've been able to go back and be friends with most of my ex clients. And most of my ex coaches though But there haven't been like, I understand van. And why that kind of left. It felt like a funny taste in your mouth. De'Vannon: [00:41:00] Oh, it's a very bitter fucking tastesHeather: he's like not funny. It's better. bitch.De'Vannon: better. You know, if like I never want it. It's like, I never want to see him again. It's like, well, we got to talk about, you Heather: Right? De'Vannon: like that. So, and I want it to remind people. You know a saying that goes, the investor has the upper hand always meaning the one who's spending the money who's paying for the services.So no matter how a salesperson tries to turn it around, how you have some sort of assistant or some sort of coach, who's going to try to bully you and try to tell you what you should or shouldn't be doing this year. The one with the checkbook, with the credit card, with the funds, with the Currans okay.You call the shots. Even if you call them wrong at the end of the damn day, it's your mind me, it can't nobody make you do with your money, [00:42:00] which you don't want to. And as simple as it seems, it wasn't until I came across that in a, in a, in a, in a reading somewhere, I was reading in a writing on the internet that I found, you know, the investor has the upper hand always.I felt so liberated. Because even though I've been the one spending money on stuff, sometimes I would feel like, okay, maybe I should act like they want me to act or do what they wanna do and stuff like that. And I was like, no, bitch, I'm slang in the Dole here. You shut the fuck up. If it comes down to it, bitch.And you do what I say, you got me fucked up.Heather: Well, you know, here, here's where it's kind of like, you have to find your own line because on the one hand we have to realize when we don't know what we don't know. Right. And sometimes we don't know what we do. know, it's like, you're coming into a situation and you're like, okay, I, want to do this. And like, there's like, I may know that I need help with X, Y, and Z, but I don't even know about, you know, ABC, D E F G [00:43:00] like I w I was so I'm, so I'm such a noob.I'm so green. I don't know anything about these other things. Right. And so having a beginner mindset is generally going to help you, like the worst thing for like a coach. Like the worst thing for me is like, I sit down and people are asking me questions and then I'm giving them answers. And I'm not one of these authoritative coaches where I'm like, I know everything and, you know, it's my way or the highway.Right. But there's, there's something. Okay. So I explained it. There's tried and true things that work. And if you kind of imagine, like, if you're going down the center line of a road, those are like the tried and true marketing things. Right. And you can deviate to the right and you can deviate to the left and still have a successful business.Right. But if you deviate too far off, then you're completely off the road and it either doesn't work or it takes way too long. Right. So there's a benefit in, in kind of, you know, not, not getting too crazy with [00:44:00] stuff. Right. But you know, if I have somebody who's like, they're asking me questions and then they're telling me the answer and they won't listen to what I have to say at all.Like, that's we call that not being coachable and that doesn't work, but obviously if somebody's giving you advice and you're like, yeah, that doesn't feel good to me. You know, that's not how I wanna run my business, or that's not how I want to, you know, date or that's not how I want to lose weight, then that person's, they're not the right fit for you.And then you should find a way to like dissolve contract.De'Vannon: Right. I, I concur. And I want to go back and ask you something that I'm into earlier. Those, when the, when that girl was telling you, she was at the conference and they were able to trick the 28 people into the other seven grand, and then they wanted to guilt, shame or strong on the other two that they were, they able to manipulate the other two people or that they hold their dry.Heather: So she held her ground. I don't know what happened with the other person [00:45:00]De'Vannon: Okay.Heather: and, you know, yes. And I talk about this in the book, but we have to take responsibility. This isn't the point of this book is not so everybody can sit around and say,right. Because every single time that I bought into somebody's height, there was a part of me that was like, this is too good to be true. This is too good to be true. It's attributed review. But because there are still things in me that I'm healing, I'm still working on, you know, All of my tragedy resume.I'm still working through a lot. I wanted to believe it. And I, and I let them manipulate me. And so I have to take responsibility for my badge choices. I have to take responsibility for the fact that even though the first three group programs didn't work for me and it should have been very apparent to me that that model doesn't work for me.I signed up for two more. Right. So we have to take responsibility and hold ourselves accountable for our actions. Right. [00:46:00] And be aware that people are doing sleazy things, but you know, you can't just sit around and cry about it and be a victim. Yeah. De'Vannon: Crummy around the area. Let's see. So I just pray for people that they gain strong minds and become the strongest among us. Heather: Yeah. De'Vannon: So in your book, you talk about the difference of possible versus probable. You give these examples of how, like people on social media go, Hey, you can make $50,000 in your first month.All you have to do is this, this, this, this, this, and or whatever fucking astronomical thing. And he's not. And you say sometimes these results have happened. So you don't really throw it all the way out, but you tell us is not necessarily typical. So speak to us about how we can balance our expectations about what's possible when may have happened for some people, because apparently a lot of [00:47:00] consultants and girls like to use their best clients as their examples, but kind of leave out the fact that, you know, these results aren't actually typical.So what's possible. What's probable.Heather: So it's possible to come in and make 10 K your. it can happen. Right. But there's a lot of fuckery that goes on with that testimonial and that, that case study. And they're not telling you. Right. So for instance, one of the things that happens a lot in testimonials with these group programs is they're telling you, you know, my client came in and just two weeks after starting to work with me, she doubled her ROI.Well, they don't tell you that this, this person they were working with already had a business was already making 5k months already had a warm audience. And this person didn't take the group program. They actually were a one-to-one client. Right. So that person's results. Are not even though it's true, it doesn't apply to you if you're a new [00:48:00] entrepreneur and you're taking this group program with a hundred other people.Right. So that's something that happens a lot. And once I understood that, I was like, oh my God, I'm not an idiot. There's nothing wrong with me. Like these people are just not being transparent, so they're not lying, but they're not telling the truth either. Right. So, but I mean, even as a new entrepreneur and there's, there's a whole fuckery around what constitutes your first month in business, a lot of people don't count themselves as being in business until they start making sales.So they don't tell you about the 14 years they struggled and didn't make a dime. They're just like, Yeah.one day I started a business and 30 days later I made $35,000 and it's like, yeah, you were in business for 14 years. You fucking wire. Right. Okay. So. They're there and they're outliers. There are people that just come in and suddenly have amazing results, like sometime, cause it really just happened, but don't let people mindfuck you until you will.If that doesn't happen for you, it's just your mindset. Like it's just not probable. And so one of the things I encourage people to ask when they're on, you [00:49:00] know, calls with coaches or, you know, any kind of mentor consultant, teacher, whatever is ask them what, you know, what are the best results you've helped people to create.And you know, they're going to brag, brag, brag, brag, brag. And then you're going to say, well, what's the average results and they're not necessarily going to tell you the truth. This is where you have to really turn on your discernment. Look at their body language, listen to their voice about how they're answering things.And I also really encourage people to reach out to people that leave testimonials and just say, Hey, do you still stand by this testimonial? Okay. Sometimes people will rewrite your testimonials. Sometimes you gave it during the honeymoon phase when you really liked the person, but by the end of the program that you figured out that they were full of shit.Right? So that's kind of how you're figuring out like what's possible and what's probable. And they also should be able to tell you, like, you know, the person who got the really amazing results, how much time and money did they put in, you know, the person they get the [00:50:00] average results, what kind of time and money did they put in?Right? So you want to be asking these questions and you know, there's so much fuckery amount, mindset and mindset is a real thing, but don't get sucked into this. Well, if you just believe hard enough, it's going to work. And it's like, well, if the program does, if the program were coach or teacher consultant guru or whatever, does it deliver, you're not going to get really good results.And that's not because of your mindset, right? If you're showing up and doing the work, you should be getting results. If you're not, then there's something there's something wrong and it's not your mindset.De'Vannon: Well, the devil is in the details as they say. And that's exactly what you're talking about is paying attention to the little things. So that makes all the difference in the world.Heather: Yeah, but you know, somebody reads this book and you know, it's going to open their eyes and you're going to be able to see in people's marketing, whether they're worth following, whether they're worth even getting [00:51:00] on a call with them. And you're going to know when they, if, if they start trying to use any of the sociopathic sales techniques, you're not going to sit there and start questioning yourself.You're going to be like, wait a fucking minute. No, no, no, no, no, no. Right. And then you'll know like what questions you need to ask. Because the way that coaches are taught to sell is to not believe any room for questions. Right is to just take control of the call and just run it. And to some degree there, you know, you need to show leadership because you are in a leadership position, but it shouldn't be like, the coach is on the mountain top and you're like down here, it should be more like the coach is like a little bit further along than you, right there.They're a leader, but they're not trying to like, make you feel like you're, you know, so far, you know, it shouldn't be, it shouldn't be that much of a demand. And my words are failing me. Well they're Yeah,they're not a God. [00:52:00] They're just, there's somebody who has a little more experience and knowledge than you do. De'Vannon: absolutely. They're not a God and they're not perfect. And we. Mistakes. It is important to take people off of these pedestals. We tend to put them on. And you mentioned that it's important that your coach, if you're going to hire a coach or a consultant or a girl that they are also have, they also have their own coaching happening as well.And that's very, very, very important. If another thing a person could ask them, you know, who is your consultant? Who is your person? You say in your book, that is good for people to invest in training for well-respected certifications. Usually behind a coach or consultant named there's all these fucking acronyms that I don't know what the fuck they mean, but it makes them look really smart.Heather: Right. De'Vannon: In my head, it does make me feel like that they are probably better qualified than someone who doesn't have all the acronyms behind their name. So speak to us about the importance of [00:53:00] training, because when I was reading this, you know, I'm getting the sense that you don't want people to, just to forsake the training.I think you said earlier, somebody, you disagree with that. All you have to do is be good at something. And then you can go start consulting. Apparently that's not the case.Heather: Well, so here, here's the thing. A lot of people think that coaching is like giving advice and coaching in its purest form. Like when, when coaching first became a thing, it was almost like going to like the shaman of the village, or, you know, you see in like Hong Fu movies Where you go and you ask the spiritual master a question and he doesn't give you an answer.He gives you a question. Right? So pure coaching in its purest form is really about asking questions and helping the client figure out what they need to do. Right. But when coaching splintered into all these different niches, right. And it became business first, it was like [00:54:00] just coaching. And then there was like business coaching and life coaching, and then it's wintered into like health and relationship and all these different things.Right. So when somebody has a specialty. They're not just poaching, they should be teaching. Right. And what I found in my business coaches and a lot of business coaches, they're good coaches. They're good at asking questions and they're good consultants. I just like giving you strategies, but they're not good teachers.They don't teach you how to actually effectively implement the strategies. And so that's a problem anyway, but the coaching, like if you're going to be a health coach, you need to, you need to understand, like, if you, if you have a nutrition degree from college, you might be able to be a health coach without actually having coach training.Right. Because you have like that background, but somebody who just reads a couple of books on weight loss, and then it's like, yep, I'm a health coach. Like, or [00:55:00] I'm a weight loss coach. Like. Things that you need to understand and a good coaching schools also going to talk to you about ethics, like your coaching ethics.Like I talk a lot about ethics in business, on the sales and marketing side, but there's ethics in like, you know, don't fuck your clients. If you're a coach, right. It's a conflict of interest. Don't, you know, coach close family and friends that can, that can be a difficult kind of sticky situation, other things.So if you really are into this, because you actually want to have an impact, invest in some training and you can go on unity and Coursera and, you know, whatever and get a certification for a hundred bucks or 10 bucks. But the quality of that training, it's it's, you need to go to, you need to get some training where you can actually ask questions.You can actually be mentored a little bit in the process. It's just, it's gonna make you much better at what you do. And you'll have more confidence too, which will [00:56:00] make it easier for you to market and sell, but you'll also be able to actually produce results with your clients much quicker.De'Vannon: Where are there like general coaching schools throughout the country in the world? Or is there just different places depending on what you want to learn or does it, you know, is there anywhere you'd recommend or.Heather: So there's, I don't know about recommends. So I did coach you, coach you is, has been around it's one of the oldest coaching schools. And but there are specialty schools. That one, that one is basically for like life coaching and business coaching. But there's, I went to a sex coaching school when I was doing sex coaching there's all different kind of like splintered into all these niches kind of schools. Right. But if you want to get the ICF certification, which as far as I know is like kind of the one that's most universally known and respected in the coaching world. Go to the international coaching Federation website. And it will tell you all the schools that are actually accredited with them. And then you can go and [00:57:00] research, you know, within your niche or, or what have you.And, you know, they've got a lot of online options. I did mine on person, which I, I really liked some things about, and that I had, I was actually learning in an environment with other people, but it was 60 hours in six days. So it was pretty grueling. So, yeah, I would go to the ICF because here's the thing we're unregulated right now.I don't think we're going to stay on regulated much longer, especially because there are more and more conversations being had about the unethical business practices in the coaching industry. So I think the government's role governments are going to start to step in, and there are now schools that are offering four year degrees in coaching.And on the one hand, I think that that's pretty cool because there is a lot to learn and a lot of cool things you can know, but on the other hand, you don't need four years of college and all that college debt in order to be an effective coach, you do need some training, but you want to make sure that your grandfather had in before that change happens, because [00:58:00] you know, people that have been calling themselves coaches for years are going to really have to scramble, you know, or face fines or, you know, what are, or face going back to school for four years.De'Vannon: Right. So speaking of unscrupulous motherfuckers, you mentioned a sociopathic sales earlier, and now in this section of the book you back into the sense that this has to do with like an ends justifies the means sort of approach. I read a line there about maybe a salesperson might tell you something like, Hey, you wouldn't, you know, you would spend money to keep your kid from dying.It's the same thing. And, you know, have you heard, have you heard people say shit like that and dig deep, dig deeper into what you mean by a sociopathic sales person?Heather: So I'm not a psychologist. And so I'm just kind of using the, the term sociopathic to just mean like somebody does consciousness, right? They, they have, no, [00:59:00] they have no empathy. They have no remorse. They they have an agenda and they will, you know, their, their agenda is made to make a certain amount of money or fill their program with a certain amount of people.And they don't give a shit, they don't kill her. They don't give a shit if you're, so this is kind of where you can kind of get into qualified and unqualified leads to somebody that's a qualified lead. Is it the right starting place and has the right resources, like time and energy and focus to, and they're the right level, right?To get the good out of your program. If somebody is not at the right starting point, it doesn't matter how eager they are. They're not going to get as good a results. Right. Or somebody who like really is flat broke and like they're struggling to eat. And these people would sell them a $5,000 program in a heartbeat.They don't give a shit. Right. So that's what I mean by sociopathic sales. So it's the manipulation, the false promises. It's the shaming. And I go through all the different types of shaming, you know [01:00:00] ambition, shaming is one of the biggest ones like, oh, you, if you're not ready to invest, you know, 10 grand in my program, you must not want this business very much.Oh, oh, I see. You're not ready. You don't want to, you don't want to buy my program right now. I see this must just be a hobby, right? So it's this stuff to make you doubt yourself stuff to make you want to prove yourself to That person is one of the most common things, but that particular line the most sociopathic mentor I ever worked with actually use
Sandie Morgan and Dave Stachowiak discuss how to navigate being a leader and making change during and post COVID. Dave gives tips on balancing leadership roles, how to grow as a leader, and early foundational tips for starting a nonprofit. Dave Stachowiak Dave is the host and founder of Coaching for Leaders, a top-rated management podcast downloaded 25 million times. With more than 15 years of leadership at Dale Carnegie and a thriving, global leadership academy, he helps leaders discover practical wisdom, build meaningful relationships, and create movement for genuine results. Dave is also founder of the Coaching for Leaders Academy, a year-long leadership development cohort. His credentials include a doctoral degree in organizational leadership from Pepperdine University, several international business leadership awards from Dale Carnegie, and graduation from Coach U. He also serves on the board of the Global Center for Women & Justice at Vanguard University and co-hosts the Ending Human Trafficking podcast with longtime friend, Sandie Morgan. Key Points Leaders in nonprofits balance: 1)Leading the organizations mission and big picture; and 2) Managing the complex day-to-day organizational management Having a community and partnering with others in the same field can be beneficial for leaders to gain new skills and learn from people who are working in the same sphere and similar roles. Nonprofit leaders, or individuals who want to become leaders, need to distinguish between what feels good in the moment and what is actually good for the movement. Building a strong team and knowing how and what to delegate is key to sustainability. Resources Coaching for Leaders The Vision Driven Leader: 10 Questions to Focus Your Efforts, Energize Your Team, and Scale Your Business by Michael Hyatt How to Sell Your Vision with Michael Hyatt | Coaching for Leaders podcast How Great Teams Find Purpose, with David Burkus | Coaching for Leaders podcast Business Model Generation Effective Delegation of Authority, with Hassan Osman | Coaching for Leaders podcast How to Work With a Board, with Denice Hinden | Coaching for Leaders podcast How to Define a Role, with Pat Griffin | Coaching for Leaders podcast Love the show? Consider supporting us on Patreon! Become a Patron Transcript Dave [00:00:00] You're listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. This is episode number 276, Nonprofit Leadership with Coaching for Leaders host, Dave Stachowiak. Hey, that's me. Production Credits [00:00:12] Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential. Dave [00:00:31] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak. Sandie [00:00:37] And my name is Sandie Morgan. Dave [00:00:39] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking. Sandie, every two weeks we get together, we have a fabulous guest on who's an expert in some area to help us. Today you just have outdone yourself with the guest you have found. I am so impressed. Sandie [00:00:57] Oh, my goodness, Dave, I'm so excited to tell everybody that my guest is Dave Stachowiak. Yay. And let me just do, be a little bit formal here. His bio: Dave is the host and founder of Coaching for Leaders, a top rated management podcast downloaded 25 million times with more than 15 years of leadership at Dale Carnegie and a thriving Global Leadership Academy, he helps leaders discover practical wisdom, build meaningful relationships, and create movement for genuine results. Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast, Dave. Dave [00:01:44] What a pleasure to be here. I feel like I've been here before somehow. Sandie [00:01:49] Well,
Emma Doyle had heard of Judy Sabah due to her fabulous reputation, not only as a Master Certified Coach, but also because of the fact that she is the co-founder and past president, 1993/94, of the National Speakers Association (NSA/Colorado) and the founder of ICF Colorado. Judy brings to this episode a wealth of wisdom, knowledge and experience for us all to benefit from. Some of her gems you will hear on this episode include: Replace the word 'should' with 'could' and work on turning your statements into questions Let your intuition and curiosity be your guiding light Thomas Lennard said: 'Coaching is a higher level of communication.' Why not do this in all areas of your life? As coaches, we need a deep reservoir of curiosity - may it never run dry What makes a great coach? 1. Being fully and completely present 2. Deep, deep and generous listening 3. Asking insightful and powerful questions When you are starting a new business - build a database, follow up and follow through! This is the key to being in integrity. To help your clients with accountability - what questions could you ask? 1. What is it that got in your way? 2. If you had followed through with 'X' what else could be possible? Books Mentioned: How to Speak for fun and profit - By Joe Sabah Strength to Strength - Arthur Brookes And Judy's Book that is coming out soon - The Questions You're Not Asking Are Costing You Money, Relationships and Maybe Even Your Life This book, to be released in 2022, has the potential to change the way in which you communicate. Why? If you understand the importance of asking questions and you are able to get more information by asking, you'll be in a position to make much better decisions. That could change your life. You can read more about Judy Sabah below or visit: www.judysabah.com Judy Sabah turned an inherent love for people into a dynamic lifelong career. Coaching since 1994 and earning the Master Certified Coach designation through the International Coach Federation in 1999, Judy dedicates herself to assisting clients in deepening their understanding, knowledge, and acknowledgement of their own intrinsic value. She is a 1996 graduate of Coach U, where she served as a teleclass leader from 1994 through 1998. In 1999, Judy's vision and passion for her clients led her to achieve foundational and advanced training in the Hartman Value Profile from Harvey Schoof and Wayne Carpenter. Today she is affiliated with Axiogenics, LLC. Axiogenics, LLC is the world's leading pioneer in the field of applied neuro-axiology (brain science + value science) and NCRT (Neuro-axiological Cognitive Remodeling Technology) Throughout her lengthy career as a speaker, author, and coach Judy has displayed her natural competence for leadership. Thirty-five + years of participation in the National Speakers Association has led her to inspire countless individuals to pursue new directions. Her flair for motivating others is noted by her ability to facilitate the organization of educational and support networks for speakers and coaches on a local level. In 1999, Judy was the recipient of the Toastmasters International Communication and Leadership Award, given by the Colorado/Wyoming District 26. The purpose of this award is to honor an individual who has given outstanding service to her Community, State and Industry through Communication and Leadership. Judy was awarded a Lifetime Membership to the NSA/Colorado Chapter in 2000 for her outstanding service, dedication and support to the organization. Judy's home in Denver is her sacred haven, dancing is movement for her soul, and sharing with others through coaching, speaking, and writing is her passion. Judy's philosophy for life is simply; In Everything, There is A Gift. Please find below the International Coach Federation (ICF) Core Coaching Competencies - Updated © 2020 International Coaching Federation The ICF Core Competencies Model, developed nearly 25 years ago, remains critically important to the practice of coaching today. We invite you to reflect on these comprehensive coaching standards highlighting the key elements of coaching practice today as they will help us best serve our clients in the future. Foundation 1. Demonstrates Ethical Practice Definition: Understands and consistently applies coaching ethics and standards of coaching Demonstrates personal integrity and honesty in interactions with clients, sponsors and relevant stakeholders Is sensitive to clients' identity, environment, experiences, values and beliefs Uses language appropriate and respectful to clients, sponsors and relevant stakeholders Abides by the ICF Code of Ethics and upholds the Core Values Maintains confidentiality with client information per stakeholder agreements and pertinent laws Maintains the distinctions between coaching, consulting, psychotherapy and other support professions Refers clients to other support professionals, as appropriate Embodies a Coaching Mindset Definition: Develops and maintains a mindset that is open, curious, flexible and client-centered Acknowledges that clients are responsible for their own choices Engages in ongoing learning and development as a coach Develops an ongoing reflective practice to enhance one's coaching Remains aware of and open to the influence of context and culture on self and others Uses awareness of self and one's intuition to benefit clients Develops and maintains the ability to regulate one's emotions Mentally and emotionally prepares for sessions Seeks help from outside sources when necessary Co-Creating the Relationship Establishes and Maintains Agreements Definition: Partners with the client and relevant stakeholders to create clear agreements about the coaching relationship, process, plans and goals. Establishes agreements for the overall coaching engagement as well as those for each coaching session. Explains what coaching is and is not and describes the process to the client and relevant stakeholders Reaches agreement about what is and is not appropriate in the relationship, what is and is not being offered, and the responsibilities of the client and relevant stakeholders Reaches agreement about the guidelines and specific parameters of the coaching relationship such as logistics, fees, scheduling, duration, termination, confidentiality and inclusion of others Partners with the client and relevant stakeholders to establish an overall coaching plan and goals Partners with the client to determine client-coach compatibility Partners with the client to identify or reconfirm what they want to accomplish in the session Partners with the client to define what the client believes they need to address or resolve to achieve what they want to accomplish in the session Partners with the client to define or reconfirm measures of success for what the client wants to accomplish in the coaching engagement or individual session Partners with the client to manage the time and focus of the session Continues coaching in the direction of the client's desired outcome unless the client indicates otherwise Partners with the client to end the coaching relationship in a way that honors the experience Cultivates Trust and Safety Definition: Partners with the client to create a safe, supportive environment that allows the client to share freely. Maintains a relationship of mutual respect and trust. Seeks to understand the client within their context which may include their identity, environment, experiences, values and beliefs Demonstrates respect for the client's identity, perceptions, style and language and adapts one's coaching to the client Acknowledges and respects the client's unique talents, insights and work in the coaching process Shows support, empathy and concern for the client Acknowledges and supports the client's expression of feelings, perceptions, concerns, beliefs and suggestions Demonstrates openness and transparency as a way to display vulnerability and build trust with the client Maintains Presence Definition: Is fully conscious and present with the client, employing a style that is open, flexible, grounded and confident Remains focused, observant, empathetic and responsive to the client Demonstrates curiosity during the coaching process Manages one's emotions to stay present with the client Demonstrates confidence in working with strong client emotions during the coaching process Is comfortable working in a space of not knowing Creates or allows space for silence, pause or reflection Communicating Effectively Listens Actively Definition: Focuses on what the client is and is not saying to fully understand what is being communicated in the context of the client systems and to support client self-expression Considers the client's context, identity, environment, experiences, values and beliefs to enhance understanding of what the client is communicating Reflects or summarizes what the client communicated to ensure clarity and understanding Recognizes and inquires when there is more to what the client is communicating Notices, acknowledges and explores the client's emotions, energy shifts, non-verbal cues or other behaviors Integrates the client's words, tone of voice and body language to determine the full meaning of what is being communicated Notices trends in the client's behaviors and emotions across sessions to discern themes and patterns Evokes Awareness Definition: Facilitates client insight and learning by using tools and techniques such as powerful questioning, silence, metaphor or analogy Considers client experience when deciding what might be most useful Challenges the client as a way to evoke awareness or insight Asks questions about the client, such as their way of thinking, values, needs, wants and beliefs Asks questions that help the client explore beyond current thinking Invites the client to share more about their experience in the moment Notices what is working to enhance client progress Adjusts the coaching approach in response to the client's needs Helps the client identify factors that influence current and future patterns of behavior, thinking or emotion Invites the client to generate ideas about how they can move forward and what they are willing or able to do Supports the client in reframing perspectives Shares observations, insights and feelings, without attachment, that have the potential to create new learning for the client Cultivating Learning and Growth Facilitates Client Growth Definition: Partners with the client to transform learning and insight into action. Promotes client autonomy in the coaching process. Works with the client to integrate new awareness, insight or learning into their worldview and behaviors Partners with the client to design goals, actions and accountability measures that integrate and expand new learning Acknowledges and supports client autonomy in the design of goals, actions and methods of accountability Supports the client in identifying potential results or learning from identified action steps Invites the client to consider how to move forward, including resources, support and potential barriers Partners with the client to summarize learning and insight within or between sessions Celebrates the client's progress and successes Partners with the client to close the session
This week's celebrity chat is with Julie Starr form Possibility Life Coaching for Women! We are talking about empowerment, about women who experience challenges in their lives and especially about the importance of joy, the importance of movement/ feeling grief and all feelings to move on. Julis is an award-winning social issues advocate for human rights and environmental protection. She has long been a dreamer and a doer. Her life path has been driven by her attention to important issues and recognizing when there is a need for change. Professionally she completed a BFA with honors in Dance Therapy from York University and is a graduate of Coach U. After many years practicing in schools and hospitals, her latest visionary work is in the field of coaching women in challenge. She knows challenge all too well…between cancer, having a husband leave, becoming diabetic in her first pregnancy and more, Julie knows the blindsiding in life and how to get through it. Her business, Possibility Life Coaching for Women, provides solutions and empowerment for better lives lived, showing women how to live a life they love. She is here to say there is strategic know-how to navigate challenges in life and tools to make your journey doable. Her recent book, Your Husband Left: Now What?! is on Amazon. Julie is the mom of 3 incredible daughters and the grandmother of many. You can find her here... www.possibilitycoaching.net FB: Possibility Life Coaching for Women Would you like to connect and chat with me? https://practice.do/heather-stewart/book/coaching-discovery-call --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/heatherstewartcoaching/message
What is coaching? It's a simple question, but a rather complex one. It means different things to different people. But have you thought, about what coaching means from the pioneer of coaching himself? Dr. Pat Williams who is also known as the original gangster of coaching reveals what actually is coaching and how it creates transformation.Join us on this episode of The xMonks drive, and explore coaching and how it is different from other modalities of human development with Dr. Pat Williams.One of the early pioneers of coaching, Pat is often called the ambassador of life coaching. Pat is a Master Certified Coach (International Coach Federation) and a Board Certified Coach (Center for Credentialing and Education). He has been a licensed psychologist since 1980, and began executive coaching in 1990 with Hewlett Packard, IBM, Kodak and other companies along with the front range of Colorado. He is a graduate of Kansas University in 1972. He completed his masters in Humanistic Psychology in 1975 (University of West Georgia) and doctorate in Transpersonal Psychology in 1977, (University of Northern Colorado). His dissertation was Transpersonal Psychology and the Evolution of Consciousness. Pat joined Coach U in 1996, closed his 16-year therapy practice, and six months later and became a full-time coach. Pat was a senior trainer with Coach U from 1997-1998. He then started his own coach training school, the Institute for Life Coach Training (ILCT) which specializes in training those with a human services orientation. ILCT has trained thousands worldwide since 1998. Pat was department chair of the Coaching Psychology program at the International University of Professional Studies, and has taught graduate coaching classes at Colorado State University and Denver University, Fielding University, Loyola University, City University of London and many others. He was also a curriculum consultant for the Coaching Certificate program at Fielding International University. Pat is a past board member of the International Coach Federation (ICF), and co-chaired the ICF regulatory committee. He is past president of ACTO, the Association of Coach Training Organizations and an honorary VP of the Association of Coaching Psychology and a Founding member of Harvard University's Institute of Coaching.
In this HCI Podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanhwestover/) talks with Alena Sviderskaia about leveraging a strength-based approach to leadership. See the video here: https://youtu.be/0MHYl7C1o0Q. Alena Sviderskaia (www.linkedin.com/in/alenasviderskaia) is a passionate leadership coach, speaker, and facilitator located in Toronto, Canada. Her work is focused on helping organizations become positive and innovative places to work by turning managers into high-performing leaders and strategically tapping into innate employee strengths to create a culture of passion and full engagement Her biggest passion is showing people a glimpse of their potential, help them break down the mental barriers, and most importantly inspiring them to take action. Alena holds a degree in psychology from McGill University and is a graduate of a CoachU coaching program, a creator of Empowered to Lead program, and a co-creator of the Work and Wellness amplified program. She uses her extensive and diverse corporate experience and a relentless drive to succeed to deliver results for her clients while supporting them through the process. Please leave a review wherever you listen to your podcasts! Please consider supporting the HCI Podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=69688020. Check out the Human Capital Innovations (HCI) Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work! https://hciacademy.talentlms.com/. Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/alchemizing-human-capital-6884351526333227008/. Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership, here: https://www.innovativehumancapital.com/bluerthanindigo. Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership, here: https://www.innovativehumancapital.com/leadershipalchemy. Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine, here: https://www.innovativehumancapital.com/hci-magazine. Ranked #6 Performance Management Podcast: https://blog.feedspot.com/performance_management_podcasts/ Ranked #6 Workplace Podcast: https://blog.feedspot.com/workplace_podcasts/ Ranked #7 HR Podcast: https://blog.feedspot.com/hr_podcasts/ Ranked #12 Talent Management Podcast: https://blog.feedspot.com/talent_management_podcasts/ Ranked in the Top 20 Personal Development and Self-Improvement Podcasts: https://blog.feedspot.com/personal_development_podcasts/ Ranked in the Top 30 Leadership Podcasts: https://blog.feedspot.com/leadership_podcasts/
“Welcome to the Wellbeing and Career World Podcast, I am delighted to be chatting to a woman Plagued and embarrassed by her name (a humiliation enhanced by a nomadic childhood that made it impossible to build lasting relationships), Shenandoah Chefalo developed a tough skin at an early age. Along the way, she learned to deal with disappointment, push through discomfort, overcome adversity, and accurately gauge people, qualities that have helped her to succeed. After spending nearly 20 years as a Law Office Administrator, Shenandoah became unsettled by the ever-revolving door of the criminal justice system and set out to find a way to change it. She attended Coach U and became a certified life coach. Working through that program, Shenandoah began to understand her childhood in a way she never had before. She set out on a mission to tell her story and educate the general public about the grim realities of a life that she had always tried to hide. She believes that some of the grassroots solutions she offers in Garbage Bag Suitcase could change the lives of children and the landscape of the country. Shenandoah Chefalo is a graduate of Michigan State University (holding a Bachelor of Arts with a Major in Interdisciplinary Studies in Social Science), a Core Essentials Graduate from Coach U, a Certified Law of Attraction Advanced Practitioner, a member of the National Speakers Association, and volunteers with several organizations locally, nationally and internationally. Shenandoah Chefalo is also the author of an e-book entitled Setting Your Vision and Defining Your Goals and is currently working on her next book, Hiking for Stillness: Finding Healing One Step At A Time. On today's podcast, we will be chatting about from Foster care to graduating at Michigan State University and Healing through Trauma. A very warm welcome to the podcast Shenandoah Chefalo. Shenandoah answers some of the questions asked below during the podcast or answers questions as part of the conversation. 1)Can I ask why did you feel embarrassed by your name?2) Do you still feel embarrassed by your name? 3) Why did you decide to enter Foster Care? 4) I cannot imagine how you felt at that time to want to make the decision to enter Foster care, can I ask the type of emotions you experienced? Did your mother have any input in the decision?5) What was foster care like and what was your experience of it? 6) We see images of foster care homes being caring and the focus is to take care of children entering these homes, is this the reality from your own experience ? 7) What were the greatest challenges you faced while in foster care?, what is the usual process to being fostered? 8) Have there been any improvements to the process since your time in foster care? 9) How was your life on a day to day and what about school life?10) Did you meet any friends and have you kept In contact with any of them? 11) When did you decide to attend college and what was your motivation? 12) Did you like college and what was your favorite part? 13) Where can listeners find you on social media and get in touch with Contact Shenandoah: Website: https://www.garbagebagsuitcase.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shenandoah.chefalo/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shenandoahchefalo/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/garbagebagsuitcase/ Services: https://www.garbagebagsuitcase.com/services Disclaimer: This podcast and website represents the opinions of Wellbeing and Career World and our guests to the show and website. 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In episode 21 of the Professional Builders Secrets podcast, our host, Bosco Anthony is joined by one of the executive business coaches at APB, Dennis Wong. Throughout this episode, Dennis shares the secrets to building a winning team for a building company. Dennis works with business owners to grow their businesses, help their managers and team members to achieve higher levels of performance, and attain results faster by combining training to impart knowledge and develop new skills and coaching to facilitate transformative growth. As a business and executive coach, Dennis graduated from Coach-U in 2016 and FocalPoint Coaching in 2017 and has continued to develop as a professional coach, learning from experts in the field and subsequently, helping business owners, their management, and team members to develop professionally and personally. In this episode, Dennis shares why it's important for builders to optimise for maximum efficiency, how to overcome blindspots in a building company, the importance of using data to drive decision making and SO much more. Tune in to the full episode now to learn about the systems that builders can implement to maximise efficiency for their building company. ABOUT DENNIS WONG Based in Sydney, Australia, Dennis Wong is one of the Australasian Executive Business Coaches at the Association of Professional Builders. A Coach-U and FocalPoint Coaching accredited business coach also serving on the Executive Committee of the Asia Pacific Alliance of Coaches (APAC), Dennis now works exclusively with owners of residential building companies in Australia and New Zealand that are looking to fast-track their results. Connect with Dennis: linkedin.com/in/dennis-s-wong TIMELINE 1:04 Dennis's coaching background. 4:32 The challenges Dennis sees builders facing. 5:53 Why it's important for builders to optimise for maximum efficiency. 8:59 Where to start to maximise your efficiency. 11:52 Metrics to measure efficiency. 13:51 The core blindspots in a building company and how Dennis helps builders overcome them. 15:46 The importance of using data to drive decision making. 16:41 How to stay consistent after improving your efficiency. 18:13 Crucial systems for efficiency. 20:11 Dennis's advice when it comes to communication with their team members. 21:29 Dennis's take on the future of the industry. 22:49 What's surprised Dennis the most about the residential construction industry. 24:15 What Dennis believes builders need to focus on for the future. 25:24 Common challenges Dennis helps builders overcome. 26:38 Dennis's advice to builders. 30:33 Dennis's recommended reading. LINKS, RESOURCES & MORE APB Website: associationofprofessionalbuilders.com APB on Instagram: instagram.com/apbbuilders/ APB on Facebook: facebook.com/associationofprofessionalbuilders APB on YouTube: youtube.com/c/associationofprofessionalbuilders Join the Professional Builders Secrets Facebook group for builders & connect with professional builders world-wide: facebook.com/groups/builderssecrets
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Having clear policies as a health coach is important to protect yourself and your business. Lisa Fraley explains how health coaches can stay within their scope of practice, what to know about COVID, and how to practically refund-proof your business. In this episode, Cathy and Lisa discuss: Why RNs should have a health coaching certificate separate from being an RN Advice about addressing particular illnesses and diagnoses How health coaches can know their scope of practice Whether or not health coaches working with a doctor can list that on their website What health coaches need to know about practicing as a health coach during COVID Top 3 ways health coaches can keep themselves safe and reduce their risks to avoid trouble: Know your state nutrition laws Use a client agreement with all clients Follow your client agreement How health coaches can stop worrying about refunds and refund proof their business Details about Lisa's new book Memorable Quotes: “If you're talking about the specific diagnosis of anxiety, or the specific diagnosis of depression, you don't want to talk about that unless you're a licensed clinical practitioner in a medical relationship.” “The way that you stay in your lane as a health coach is you don't violate any of those other professions…our biggest focus is not to do what other people are licensed to do.” “It's always better to have a clear, strong refund policy, preferably no refunds, that you can also do the other partial or full refund. Just be super clear and have that in your document and that's the first step to practically refund proofing your business.” Lisa Fraley is a Legal Coach®, Attorney, Best-Selling Author and Speaker who has helped hundreds of coaches and entrepreneurs get legally covered through her DIY legal templates, services and online courses. She uniquely aligns legal steps with the chakras because she believes the law protects you practically AND energetically. Lisa “gets” online and holistic entrepreneurs because she's also a certified Holistic Health Coach through IIN, Life Coach through Coach U, and Master Transformational Method Coach through HCI (formerly HMBA). Lisa is the author of the #1 Best Seller Easy Legal Steps…That Are Also Good for Your Soul. She received her JD from Case Western Reserve University School of Law where she was managing editor of the Health-Law Journal, and BA in Political Science with a Minor in Business Administration, cum laude, with Honors, from Miami University (Ohio). She is a sought-after legal expert appearing in over 250 podcasts, webinars and international stages about her holistic approach to the law, chakras and entrepreneurship. Lisa's also the former president of the Junior League of Portland (Maine) and was selected as a “Forty Under 40” award recipient by Business First newspaper in Columbus, Ohio when she was just 29. She's an avid runner and hiker, and she's completed 3 marathons. Mentioned In This Episode: Easy Legal Steps...That Are Also Good For Your Soul - https://lisafraley.com/book/ Free Gift: 4 Key Parts All Refund Policies Should Have - https://lisafraley.com/refundproof Links to resources: Health Coach Group Website https://www.thehealthcoachgroup.com/
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Joy Huber, a stage 4 cancer survivor, was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer at age 33. Joy endured three years of chemotherapy suffering the complete loss of her shoulder-length hair. During her cancer journey Joy discovered, “While no one's happy they have cancer, you can have cancer and still be happy.” Joy launched the “Dose of JOY” Podcast to serve as your personal guide to cancer. The podcast has a lot of helpful information and includes 'must do's and never do's' to help you on your cancer journey, or as you support a loved one on theirs. Morgan James Publishing of New York City published Joy's book titled “Cancer with JOY.” She has blogged for The Huffington Post, and received standing ovations when speaking to cancer patients & survivors. Joy's unique approach to her total hair loss was featured in “Coping with Cancer” magazine. Joy's Master's degree is in Health Communication, and she is professionally trained in coaching individuals through Coach U. “Like” the “Dose of Joy Podcast” Facebook page to receive links to the helpful resources Joy highlights on her show.Find the Dose of Joy Podcast here.And her book here.Here are some resources she recommends:American Cancer SocietyAmerican Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO)Imerman Angels Cancer Support CommunitySupport the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/melissaebken)
INTRODUCTION:Heather Wylde Smith is a native of North Georgia, raised in the birthplace of NASCAR and the Moonshine Capital of the World. She jokes that she's a highly evolved Redneck/Hillbilly. Although she has a Tragedy Resume a mile long, she is living proof that our pasts only define us — if we let them. She often says: “Therapy kept me from jumping off a building. Personal Growth made me stop wanting to jump off a building.” Through relentless pursuit of health and happiness, she has overcome: • Stage 3 Breast Cancer• Mental/Emotional/Sexual Abuse and Trauma• Drug Addiction• And more! Her tremendous success with personal growth lead her to become a coach. She received her initial coaching training through Coach U in 2009.Today, she is the CEO and mad genius behind Wylde Coach LLC. She's a Biz Coach for ambitious purpose-driven coaches, healers and service providers who want to expand into their next-level selves in order to attract dreamier clients, raise their prices & restructure their businesses for maximum impact, profit and fulfillment. She's available as a Guest Speaker/Expert and for Podcast interviews. Her blend of biz expertise, practical tips and outlandish humor make her a dynamic guest that your audience will eat up with a spoon! INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to):· Fake orgasms!!!· Cum· Insider look at the escorting industry · Warning Signs of Scandalous Sales-hoes· Shitty employers· The Spirit of a Hustler· Republican bullshit· Surviving cancer· Surviving abuse· What would Jesus really do? 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This application streamlines the process of finding guests for your show and also helps you find shows to be a guest on. The PodMatch Community is a part of this and that is where you can ask questions and get help from an entire network of people so that you save both money and time on your podcasting journey.https://podmatch.com/signup/devannon TRANSCRIPT:[00:00:00]De'Vannon: You're listening to the sex drugs and Jesus podcast, where we discuss whatever the fuck we want to! And yes, we can put sex and drugs and Jesus all in the same bed and still be all right. At the end of the day, my name is De'Vannon and I'll be interviewing guests from every corner of this world. As we dig into topics that are too risqué for the morning show, as we strive to help you understand what's really going on in your.There is nothing on the table and we've got a lot to talk about. So let's dive right into this episode.De'Vannon: Happy new years, Eve, Eve, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in for the final show of the year it has been a phenomenal year. And I want to thank you for your kindness and for your support for your love. And I send that all right back to you. Here's to a fantastic 2022 Today, I'm going to be talking with a Bad Bitch by the name of Heather Wylde y'all. This woman is a transformational business and life coach. [00:01:00] But before that she was a hooker, she was raped. She was a college dropout and she was a drug addict amongst several other things, which we will talk about in the show.This woman is living proof that your trauma in your past doesn't have to be what defines you today. And in this episode, we're going to talk about fake orgasms cum, your going to get an insider look at the escorting industry. We're going to talk about some bullshit ass employers and we, you know, what would Jesus really do about several things that are going on in this world?And we hit on this and a lot of other things, I hope you enjoy this episode. And I look forward to seeing you in the new year. Hi, baby. Thank you So much, Heather, for coming on the sex drugs and Jesus pod, hallelujah, tabernacle and praise. And my bitches, y'all been here up [00:02:00] in here all a bit here. The Heather, I'm looking forward to this time that we're about to spend together. We're two beautiful women from perverted backgrounds who are incredibly productive individuals trying to share some shit with society so that they can help their own assets to improve and get better or tell a bitch that they know. And we're going to talk about how you're a great coach and the, the crazy things you've been through surviving cancer and beating an addiction and being an escort coming about of that life. You know, Not to mention all the beautiful heels that you were in. We're going to talk about all the value that you have to add to society and especially entrepreneurs and people who are trying to take what they do to that next level.And you do it in a very unique way, but before we get into all of that productive, , productive shit about you, girl. I want to talk about these fake orgasms. I heard it through the great [00:03:00] vine. I heard it all the way through the great vine two and fail into five. And I, I want to know what, where did you start using fake orgasms?Where did this come from?Heather: So I don't advocate using February. People, people need to know when they're doing well and when they're not. And it's really sad when you meet somebody who thinks they're way better in bed than they because a bunch of people have faked it. Right. But you're an escort, knowing how to fake a realistic, fake orgasm is really a good skill to have. Because sometimes your agency's wound up your phone and they need you to get the fuck out of wherever you are and go see somebody else. Or sometimes you just find somebody who has got a lot of stamina and you're just fucking over it and you need them to come. So you do big orgasm to like encourage male orgasm. So yeah, so when I was [00:04:00] on Jay's podcast, that's how we met Jay Schiffman introduced us. We were, I was talking about. Funny stories from my escorting life. And one of them involved me faking orgasms. So I gave a little quick tutorial about what not to do and what to do. Do you want, you want a demonstration?De'Vannon: Yeah. And I bought, I bought a props has set today, which is one of my, this is one of my home grown cucumbers. We began our fall harvest of this is just the first round. They get much bigger than this. And actually my boyfriend and I are going to be inserting this into my assholes at night. And that's the one that's the Y here in my bedroom, where, where recording from, because I bought this in case we need some inspiration .Heather: [00:05:00] over the top. My favorite, one of my favorite quotes from this sex education book I read was learning to.By watching more is like learning to drive by watching chases. Like cartoons are fun to watch, but you don't want to learn from them way on the watch. It's not necessarily educational, so she's a little bit more understated. So it's just like,De'Vannon: Okay. Well, fortunately in the gay world, we, I mean, there's no really faking needed. It's not like we can, if there ain't nothing coming out the tip of [00:06:00] your Dick, well, then you didn't come in as dollars to it.So Heather: there's, there's no escorts that learn how to fake orgasms, because if they come too much, you know, it's harder for them to get them up, get it up on the next client. So it's something that's done. Just probably not by normal society.De'Vannon: I could feel that. I can see where we're a male escort. We need to fake an orgasm in order to make that money. Know but you know, me, I'm such a cum whore. They burn that faith with me. If you're going to stick your Dick in me, better feel this asshole of what that good baby gravy, because that's what I'm in it for. Heather: I I'm not, I'm not comfortable, but I don'tcum calm. I have a limit, like if there's too much calm, it freaks me out. But I dated, and I actually had a couple of clients like this too, but it, but I dated a guy if calm got on him at all, he freaked out and I'm sure it's, I'm sure it's a trauma [00:07:00] thing. Tom or like yours. either one.Yeah, Nope.De'Vannon: Well, I hope that he gets healed of that In the name of Jesus. Heather: In the name of Jesus. Yeah. Like you have sex. And he was like jumping up immediately to like clean off. And like I said, it's probably a trauma response. Yeah. And you know, I ran across men that don't like blow jobs. It happens.De'Vannon: He just likes to get it right to the point. I don't blame him. You know, can't judge him for that. Not at all. So what made, explain to us exactly what sort of coach you are. You have a very cute website which all that's going to be in the show, and that was in everything like that. But in your own words, tell us what sort of coach you are and what your target market is.Heather: So I am all about helping people that are [00:08:00] mission-based coaches, healers, or service providers. Like in other words, not just in this to make a lot of money. They're actually in this because as a part of their higher purpose, they're really here to serve people to really be a change, an agent of change for positive change in the world.And the problem with those of us that are really mission-based is that you come into the online world, you pretty quickly figured that you've grouped pretty quickly figured out that you can't do it on your own. That there's, there's just too much to know to try to do it on your own. So you start investing in most of the ways that are taught about marketing and sales in the online world.Some really sleazy elements to it. I call it sociopathic sales. You know, where people are being very pushy and manipulative and the way they're selling. There's a lot of really hype-y and manipulative marketing. And my is I help people that are mission-based to learn to market and sell in a way that feels really good to them, but it, and, and that is also effective and gets their mission out there and gives them the money to lead like really interesting [00:09:00] lives. goal in life is to live in a McMansion and you know, drive a Mercedes and know, have a Louis Vuitton purse, you're probably not my client. I w I like working with the people who have kind of a quirkier and more collectic, you know, dreams of like traveling around the world to visit caves or, or, you know, living, living like luxury off grid or something like that. But yeah, it's, I'm, I'm for the people that really want to know how to sell a market in a way that don't feel like they're selling.De'Vannon: Okay. I want you to speak more to the whole selling.your soul because that's the recurring theme throughout your website ethics, integrity, and, and you, you did touch on it, but can you give me a specific example or examples of some sort of treachery that you saw? So, you know, we could be on the lookout for it.What did you see that, that makes us such a repetitive theme for [00:10:00] you? Heather: Yeah, happy to. And I'm actually writing my first book. It's going to be out in January and it's, it's about how to spot the predators and scammers online so that you can make good investments that actually grow your business. So what happened with me is that I kept investing in these big, good programs.And one of the things I didn't know was that it's a, it's a group program and they're aiming all their marketing at new entrepreneurs. People who are, are newer to the business, they might not even know their niche yet. They're probably not making sales and use testimonials and say, you know, this person went through my program and they've doubled their ROI, their return on investment in the first month.Well, what they don't tell you is that that person was actually a one-to-one. And that person already had 4,000 Facebook connections and was already making sales of 2000 plus a month. for that person who already has a somewhat established business, it's nothing for them to double their ROI. I mean, it's impressive, you know, but it's a lot easier to do that now for somebody who's brand new and they barely know their niche, or they don't know their niche [00:11:00] yet that's not going to happen.And so they're using these very, I call it toxic testimonials, these very misleading testimonials to market, to people. So that that's something that's very common. One of the most obnoxious things that I directly experienced is this course that taught you to sell with a sales script. And which, you know, that's kinda common. I don't really advocate scripts, but you know, they're not in themselves in and of themselves toxic. Well, this one, they wanted you to use it for word, for word, because it was written in NLP, which is neuro-linguistic programming. It's a form of hypnosis. So you're hypnotizing people without their permission.And then pitching to, for them to send thousands of dollars at the end of that call, I did not find that at the bowl. And when I, you know, raised as an issue, I was like, yeah, I just don't quite feel comfortable with this. I was told that it was my success mindset. I needed to go work on my success mindset, that it wasn't unethical that it was my own problem.And that's a very big thing in the coaching [00:12:00] industry is, you know, you go through somebody's program. If it doesn't work they'll tell you, it's your mindset, that's the problem. And it's like, if you showed up and you did everything they told her to do, and it didn't work, it's not a mindset issue. That's the program sucked, you know, but a lot of this, there's just, there's a lot of sleazy stuff.There's a lot of really great people that are in this for the right reasons that are doing amazing things and personal growth saved my life therapy kept me from jumping off. Personal growth made it so that I didn't want to jump off buildings anymore. So I know the power of this is my so passionate about it, and it's why I want to help the people that are in this for the right reasons to get out there and get their work, because I know the power of it. But unfortunately there's a lot of people that are just in it to get paid and there's nothing wrong with money, nothing wrong with making great money. But you don't have to be a sleazy asshole in order to do it.De'Vannon: Hey Manny, many men on a Tuesday evening. NLP is true. The newer neuro-linguistic [00:13:00] programming. Cause you know, I'm certified as a hypnotherapist, you Heather: Yeah. De'Vannon: so I studied all about that and it's true. There is a lot of the low key hypnotherapy and all kinds of all kinds of ads for everything you see in churches, out of pulpits, everywhere you go, they're trying to mind fuck you in. That's why I always preach as important to know why you believe what you believe and be sure that you know where you're coming from and that it's not something somebody else put into your head without you being aware of it because the shit can be done real slick. Give me an example, like what would be the name of like a profession or a sort of business cause healers service providers.And I know that people listening to this, they're gonna, you know, if you're speaking to them, they're gonna know that you're talking to them, but I'm just a detailed bitch. And I just want to know. Heather: No, it's good. And I actually, I need people to challenge me on this because I'm really good at helping other people do this. But when I get to my own stuff, I'm like, , which is the curse. Like most people, if they're great copy writer, they can't write copy for themselves. They're great. [00:14:00] You know, mindset coach.They can unbind fuck anybody, but they can't unwind fuck themselves. So let's see some examples of people that I've worked with. I worked with an amazing Reiki healer and spiritual coach or she worked with me rather. I worked with a, a brilliant young man that is a business coach primarily for LGBTQ plus community. I've worked with a woman who has her own HR company for she outsourced she's the outsource HR for small businesses. I've worked with a copywriter. There's some other people yeah, that's a pretty good, you know, representative, you know, my big thing is. It's not so much the type of coach or healer that they are.It's really just what's in their heart. You know, are they doing this because they just want to make $10,000 on my God in 30 days, which ain't, ain't going to happen no matter how much you see that on Facebook. Or are they in this because, you know, they've, they have something that's been laid on their heart, you [00:15:00] know?And they're, they, there's a soul contract that they're fulfilling. You know, that they're out, they're here to make a difference for people. That's the people that I work with says is that VR is that mission-based, I will say this. One of the things about me that really sets me apart from other business coaches is that so many business coaches don't know how to help you find the value and the ROI for your program, unless you're a business coach or a money coach.Right. I am brilliant at helping people turn their intangible results. Your happiness coach, you make people happy and it's like, okay, well, how do I explain the value of that? I'm really good at taking that intangible and showing you how fucking valuable it is, and actually turning it into a dollar amount that you can even, you can talk to your, your potential clients about cause one of the most common sales objections is I can't afford it.Well, if you can show somebody how much money is costing them being unhappy, it's going to make your program look like a deal. Right? So I'm really good at working with non-business coaches. Although I have coached and business coaches,[00:16:00]De'Vannon: Okay. Excellent. sounds totally kick ass. So you, you talk about on there, how now people can attract and sign their dream clients. You talk about this on your website, which is beautiful. And I've said that a thousand times, I'm sure I'll say it again. pretty in pink and it's not overly pink.Cause it's like just right in very, very Olivia Newton, John grease, Heather: Ooh. De'Vannon: to me. And so, but you're talking about damaging and karma. So, so this is speaking to the bad business practice. So, so can we take a moment because maybe some people who are doing bad business practices might not be aware of how it's actually hurting them, which you have any advice for such people who are more on the predatory side of things, but don't see it that way. Heather: Well, I think a lot of people, you know, of when I learned that in LP sprint, I didn't feel like it was right, but I had, [00:17:00] you have to have a beginner's mindset, you know, you can't go into everything thinking that, you know something right. Otherwise you're not going to learn. Right. So it's a fine line.Holding onto what you know, you know, and then being, but also being too stubborn to learn. Do you get what I'm saying? You kind of have to, you have to walk that line. Right? So with that, I tried it for a while and because it didn't feel aligned for me before, because it felt really gross to me. I didn't really make many sales.I did make a few sales, but then I was always like, did they really want to work with me? Or did I mind coming to working with me? And that didn't feel good. A lot of it is, you know, people will pay thousands of dollars to work with a mentor and that mentor will really influenced them and just be like, no, you know, this is the only way your business is going to get started.Or they'll, you see a lot of this rationalizing of, know, this person needs your program. So it's okay for you to bully them into buying them, buying from you because it's for your own, for their own good. So you see a lot of this rationalization, right? So people really like go with your gut and if it doesn't feel right to you, then it doesn't [00:18:00] feel right to you.One of the biggest things is you'll see people that are still doing this cold pitching, you know, where they'll come into the DMS on Facebook or, or Instagram, wherever. And they haven't even said hello to you, but they're like, I've got this great product or this program, but it's going to be perfect for you.And you're like, fuck you, you, you haven't even said, hello, you've known nothing about me. And you know that they're just sending out hundreds of those messages a day. A lot of times they've paid thousands of dollars to learn this technique from somebody who swears that it's the only way for them to do business.So most of the time I keep my cool about it. It depends on how they come at me. I have gotten kind of nasty with people that but yeah, I mean that it, if you do that, People there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be turned off. Another thing people will do this really underhanded that a lot of people teach you to do they say, get people on a coffee, chat, get them on a networking call.And then when you get on the call with [00:19:00] them, you try to turn it into a sales call. And it's, it's a, it's a pet peeve. People fucking hate it. And what that tells me if you're doing that is that you don't have the strength of conviction about what you do and how good you are at it and the product or the service that you're offering.Because if you did have that strength and conviction and that competence, then you would approach me and say, you know, Hey Heather, I've got this thing. I think it would be really good for you. Let's let's have a consultation about it, you know, but you're trying to sneak the call on me like that. Just reeks of desperation.De'Vannon: Oh sneaky, like. Heather: It's just, it's gross. It's just gross. You know? No, don't do it. De'Vannon: don't do it.People don't do it because it only hurt yourself. You get back what you send out and if you send out deception and everything like that, well, you know, you will have your day and that's not something that I wish upon you. You know, I've done bad shit in my day. It's come back to bite me in the [00:20:00] ass, you know Just cause it's cloaked in pretty poor for clothes.Does it make it great. So we gotta really be careful of what we into.Heather: Just because it's legal doesn't mean that it's clean. I know when I went to real estate, And I got my real estate license and the first broker I went to talk to, he was such a good salesperson. He made me high. Have you ever talked to somebody that was such a good salesperson that you already felt high after talking to them?So this guy was just like, and I got home and I was telling my boyfriend about it at the time. And I was like, ah, this and this and this. And as I was saying it, I was like, wait a minute. That's not good. But the way he put it, the way he mind fucked me with it, you know, it took it, me saying it out loud and talking to somebody else to be like, wait a minute.That's not in my best interest. And I thought about it and I was like, he's a pimp, he's a fucking pimp. I'm like, if I'm going to have a pimp, I'll stay doing what I'm doing. You know, I'm not going to go into real estate and fuck.[00:21:00]De'Vannon: Oh, my God, you know, that reminds me, this might be a little shady, but I don't care. I'm going to say this, this, this, this new business model that I've seen popping up where you will have somebody who oh my God. Say they don't actually, for instance, know how to garden or some shit like that. they'll go and find the whole bunch of people who can establish.The infrastructure around it and get clients and say, I want to hire a gardener within the person who doesn't know how to garden, who owns the business. We'll charge the customer a hundred dollars for the gardener and then pay the gardener like 10, you know, and you see this in all kinds of industries.And they're like, well, I don't have to know what I'm doing to make money. I'm just hire people who do know what they're doing. Okay. I can, I can meet you half way on that. As long as you're splitting the money, 50 50, because without them, you wouldn't have anything. And if they got, got [00:22:00]more courage and had a more entrepreneurial spirit, then they would need your ass to begin with you don't have the skill do the job.You're just pimping people out. And that's something I see a lot and I'm all like, I wouldn't do the job for $20. And then this bitch is making 80 off of me with each client now,Heather: And this is how this backfires on you. So before I got full-time into coaching, I was a limo driver there was a guy that I met, like limo driving is so much like It's hilarious. So I met this dude through a company we both worked for, he had his own little company and I would go and I would do runs for him, but he was cheap.He was so fucking cheap. And his, his clients, his really good clients, he had, he had been in another driver and it was an older gentleman and the older gentlemen fucked up all the time. Not because he was older, he just, he just fucked up all the time. Like he just didn't, you know, but he was only getting paid like $30 a ride.Right. And [00:23:00] I was making the guy pay me a little bit more and I was really good with his clients. Well, his clients. The, the guys, the guys named George, they were like, no, you can't send me George anymore. Like, we'll take Heather. If you're not available, we'll take Heather. But we're like, we're not doing it.I stopped doing a lot of rides from him because I got, I got other, you know, better sources of, of of trips. he was like, I don't understand why you, you know, come work with me. And I'm like, because you don't patient. And that's why the only person who ever sticks around for you is this one guy.But he's a fuck up. Like if you pay people better, the better people would stick around and your life would be a lot easier. But because you're trying to be cheap, your customers are constantly getting pissed off and you're having to like retrain and like run after people all the time. I'm like just fucking pay people, a decent wage, right.It's not that hard.De'Vannon: As we've seen demonstrated with the pandemic because people working and now you see these signs popping up. McDonald's $10 an hour, this place 15 an hour. Okay. [00:24:00] You could have been doing that the whole time. now people still are not wanting to go back to work. Those government benefits, you know, are being cut off or have been cut off, but people still are not returning to those old jobs because they had like a whole epiphany, a spiritual awakening and everything like that.And it's too late for the employers who have been paying their CEOs and managers. the money they've had people setting their on the ground on food stamps and stuff like that who couldn't even afford to feed their babies. But to them, managers are making six figures. used to be Multiple six figures.right. People, people don't know that I was employment counselor in Texas for the Texas workforce commission for a while, and would hire for the service industry.Shit. I mean, you could manage a fast food restaurant and make upwards of 90,000 to start it. Meanwhile, the person there was making minimum wage, the fry cook [00:25:00]Heather: Yup. De'Vannon: looked then, and that's not talking about the bonuses and everything, you know, by the time it's all said and done there, they fucking lot of money in, in the things that Americans really like to consume.Bullshit my opinion, but treating the workers so bad, like that is, is one thing that I love about the pandemic. Cause it all came out. People really their life and they told their employers to go fuck themselves. And they're not going back to that abuse, no matter how much money they're offered.Heather: and it is, it is abusive. And, you know, it's all the worst when you're like, you're struggling at home because you can't pay your bills. And, you know, for the people who are parents, you know, I think a lot. And like my, my, my, my dad got help him is, is a Trump fan. And he's like, I don't understand where, you know, I don't understand why these people just won't go to work.And I'm like, well, a lot of them, if they go back to work, then they've got to pay for childcare and you can't pay. At least, if they're sitting at home getting a government check, they're actually can do something with that money other than just give it to childcare. You [00:26:00] know, I'm like there's extenuating factors.It's not that people are lazy. It's just, they're sick of the abuse. They're sick of the bullshit. And you know, living is expensive and if you, you know, bust your ass at a minimum wage job, you still won't be able to make ends meet. Like it's ridiculous.De'Vannon: But things are changing and they're changing for the better. So. Speaking into keeping it with the spirit of working. You've had a lot of jobs. I was when I was researching you. see you worked at Wendy's. I worked at Wendy's I ate up all that shit. And McDonald's you did Walmart Kroger clothing store. I was a bartender. So you were a bartender, you're a stripper.I took some pole dancing classes. Once a limo driver comes to the heirs, your apartment leasing agent and an Uber Lyft driver, you know, very seldom do I meet somebody who's had just about as many jobs as I have had. [00:27:00] You know, I, you know, I've worked every fucking were under the sun, so I want you to speak to a, to include raising canes.Wendy's I've worked in the mall and been a model, a model for mall stores. Like company, I've been a janitor food delivery drivers, several different restaurants, a drug dealer, selling everything under the sun, a massage therapist, podcast hose off there. So I want you to speak to this, to the spirit of a hustler you know, and how that is not how that is a great attitude to have that grind and how that ties into your coaching. Heather: Okay. So I love the term hustler, the way that your high school track coach talked about it, like get out there and hustle, De'Vannon: Right. Heather: get out there, give it your, give it your all you know, do the damn thing. Right. And, and, and be, be about it. Like my favorite. I love this pimp isms. My favorite pimp ism is don't talk about it.Be about it. Don't sit around talking [00:28:00] about all the shit you're going to do and go fucking make it happen. Right. So that kind of hustle I'm with the team hustle till you drop team, you know, no hashtag no sleep and all that bullshit. I'm not with that level of hustle. Like that's, that's crazy. But the spirit of hustle to me is like, if you don't like, what's going on, fucking change it don't sit around bitching about it.Don't you know, you go change it. If you don't like this fucking. This is my rule. Like somebody can bitch to me about a job. They don't like as long as they are actively doing something to change the situation. And that's not just about jobs, it's it's anything. Right. But people that just want to bitch and bitch and bitch, like no is interesting.A friend of mine recently quit a job after two months, she thought it was going to be great. She moved to a different state for it shows me amazing. She got in there, the management was shit. It was a nightmare. And so she chose to leave after a couple of months. Well, another mutual friend of ours was like she was like, yeah, I don't, I don't understand why she changes jobs so often, [00:29:00] but this is, you know, she's somebody that she will stay in a job.She doesn't like, and there's, there's those of us that will put up with that. And there's those of us that are like, I don't care about fuck what this looks on my like on my resume, I will lie on the next resume if I have to, I'm getting the fuck on, you know, and, and that's, that's how I've always been.Like, I'm, I'm a good employee for the first, like three days. Until I start to see the holes in the policies and procedures. And I started to see how it can be done better. Not that I know of ever know everything, you know, but there's just some things that like, I don't know, it just, there's just so much stupidity as you know, and, and they won't listen, you know, there's just, most people will show up to a job just to get a paycheck and they have this ability to just kind of put their head down and they know what they're being told to do is retarded, but they keep doing it anyway because that's what they were told to do.And they just want to get their paycheck and they don't give a fuck. I don't have that switch. I can't turn that off. Like, I don't mind being told what to do as long as it makes sense, but if it's fucking stupid or if I feel like you're not treating me [00:30:00] correctly, or you're not treating my coworkers correctly or not treating the customers correctly, out, you know, what, what is that kind of, it's the spirit of why you quit your jobs and moved on to other things.De'Vannon: Yeah.because it was just, it wasn't who I really was, you know, was isn't really at the core of it. I think a lot of people stay on jobs and they, and they really killing their soul because they, it's not really their life purpose or calling these I probably was only ever truly happy when I was a military recruiter.And then when I was a recruiter for the Texas workforce commission, because those two jobs involved with mission work ministry in the sense that you're taking somebody from a less advantageous situation and putting them in a more advantageous situation, which is the heart of everything Jesus spoke about.So it wasn't a spiritual jobs specifically, but it [00:31:00] is, it did good work, benefits came to people that Heather: Yeah. De'Vannon: elevated economic status. And so. Those are the only two jobs that I ever had and maybe working in the mall because I am a fashion diva, but, you know that was like, great. But the supervision sucked ass at both of them.And I was clashing. I would've got kicked out of the military, you know, and everything like that, but, you know but yeah,you know, but that's why I, love that about the pandemic is it calls people to face it. Heather: Um, De'Vannon: not gonna move forward unless they're actually happy with what they're doing, Heather: yeah, De'Vannon: else be damned.And I commend the world for taking the bold step. Yeah. God at the push push, just out there with the pandemic, hasn't been all bad, you know, it's has been terrible, but a lot of good has come from it too. So.Heather: I, I almost, I agree. I agree. 100% and I think it was almost like a soul conspiracy because I [00:32:00] was, I was limo driving at the time and I was, you know, picking up C-suite executives that they're on the road. 40 weeks out of the gear. Like, and they, and people think business travel is a vacation. It's fucking, not people on business travel work anywhere from 12 to 16 or 18 hours a day, not including the travel, like it's fucking brutal.And they, I had several clients who were like, almost wish things would shut down just so I could get some rest. And I feel like it's like, all our souls kind of got together and they're like, okay, these assholes are not going to stop on their own. We got to do something let's manifest a pandemic.De'Vannon: Well, we did well, Heather: Well, we did. I mean, we had dolphins and Dennis, I mean, how brilliant are we? You know, like,De'Vannon: our dolphins around. Heather: so yeah, the Venice canals were, were sewers. And I think they still are to some degree sewers and people like the, the decrease in pollution and the decrease in, in what was probably for them, not so much [00:33:00] pollution as decrease in traffic in the canals. They actually saw dolphins in the Venice canal.Never, I don't, I don't know. At another time in history ever been reported.De'Vannon: Yeah. I heard the in Venice is dis ungodly.Heather: Yeah. I want to go before it completely sinks, you know, just because it's the greatest cortisones, the greatest, like most sought after prostitutes in the world came from Venice and like 14th, 15th century. So I got to make a pilgrimage there at one point, but yeah, it stinks. That's, that's what I hear those things.De'Vannon: So I don't on your website, you have a few mission statements that are really cool. And one of them talks about how you're not, you're saying that you're not out to force change in the world. You're saying that you're here to, it says that you're here to invite people, to see that they have options to create the lives.They want to lead that they are not chained to the status quo. When I read that, [00:34:00] it reminded me of Jesus. It did. And David I'll totally take that.because he said. That if he said referring to himself, that if I be lifted up, I will draw all men onto me, which is not a statement of force. What he w he was telling people who were going to follow him is to simply talk him up and then he will do the rest.And so my ministry, and the way that.I approached the world is the same way. I'm not trying to force anybody to believe one way or the other, but I am provoking spiritual conversation, least we abandoned a very important part of ourselves. And I don't give a damn if somebody wants to go be a Buddhist, I love hanging out with them.Other ball, people who love vegetarian food. Great. Oh, if they wanted to be a towel is or whatever, it's just about having some sort of conscious, conscious spirituality about you, whatever that may be. And but it's not forced, you know, I like to throw [00:35:00] information shows out there, write my blogs, write my books if it's for you, it's for you.It's not as not, I don't care if you suck Satan's Dick, we can still go have my Moses on Sunday. That's great. You know, at least you have a fucking perspective, you know, spiritually. And and, and I, and I thought that that statement was so humble of you. And then I think about like Republicans, know, making say like laws in Texas try to force the women to live the way they think that they should. And And I want you to talk about this because you, you have a statement on your website that you want shaved like half of your head off because your parents were trying to force you to go to church. And so I want you to talk about why you did that, what happened and tie that into everything I just said about how Jesus was not forceful how, when people try to become forceful, they're actually stepping out of the will of Christ. [00:36:00]Heather: Okay. So I don't know if I can hit on everything. I, I love it. One of the things that people don't realize about Jesus is that he was not trying to start a new religion. Not really. He didn't look from Christian came about later. He was trying to my words are failing me today. Re re re repurpose the Jewish faith.Right. And I think very much was about this is a term that they talk about a lot in recovery is attraction rather than promotion. Right. And that had, you know, when you try to show your views in somebody's face, you're going, all they're going to do is dig their heels in. Right. So this is why. When I, when I had cancer, I didn't say I was fighting cancer, but people would say, oh, you know, you're fighting cancer.You're going to win. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, anything fight fights back. I am politely asking cancer to leave my body. That was my perspective. Right. And you know, you think about it, like what is more likely to get [00:37:00] you curious about another way of life or another perspective, seeing somebody else living from that perspective or that different way of life, somebody coming to you and telling you you're wrong for doing it the way you're doing it, and you should be doing it their way.It doesn't work. Right. And that's part of the problem. Our culture today is everybody is so fucking polarized. And I'm just like, if we could get the people on the far ends of the extremes of both quote unquote sides, and I'm like, there are no fucking sides, we're fucking Americans, right? if we get the people screaming loudest on both sides to shut the fuck up, the rest of us could figure it out.the people on the they had no interest in finding a solution. They want more book deals. They want more people on their YouTube channel. These people have a vested interest in keeping the chaos and the bullshit going because it's, it's lining their pockets. And I think half the times they don't even believe what they're saying, but they just know that if, Hey, if I say this, I'm going to get more hits on my Facebook page or on my YouTube or, [00:38:00] you know, whatever. So as far as my personal experience, so I grew up in a very small. Rural Georgia town. it's, it's not that way anymore, but you know, 40 years ago, back in the late seventies, early eighties, it definitely was. And I would go to church and I was always just very aware. And when they preached hellfire and brimstone constantly, I was like, I don't know what I did that.I guess I'm going to hell. You know, I was like, I'm not like, what could I possibly have done? But this, this very learned, man, supposedly is assuring me that I'm going to hell. And that I'm a worthless center. And I was like, oh,and so I didn't enjoy it very much. And I, and I tried very hard. When I was 12 or 13, I tried very hard to become a good Christian and I'm a cheerleader. And with the whole thing I had to hire higher the hair closer to God, like clog going on with my hair and everything. And I was. [00:39:00] And after that, I was like, fuck it.I was like, I'm just gonna, you know, be who I am. And I actually started reading about paganism, which actually honors females and, and the small town that I was in. Not only was it hellfire and brimstone, but it was like, you're a sinner. You're always going to be a sinner. You're nothing but a center in the eyes of God.If you're a woman that goes double, if you're gay, you need to die. That was basically the order of it's like, you're all shit. But if you're these part of these groups, you're super shit. So I was like super, super shit because I was a female and I was bisexual. And I hated it, you know? And so I would sleep late.I would do all these things to try to avoid church. And my parents wanted me to go to church. That's what you do. And I really wanted to shave my head. I really liked that it was a skater cut, you know, and I just thought it looked really cool to have like partial part of your haircut. And so I wanted to do it anyway, but I had asked my parents like a good kid, if I could do it.And they're like, no, but I knew that if I did it, they wouldn't make me go to church because they would be ashamed of me. And [00:40:00] so when, you know, but I wasn't being that defiant yet. But the final straw was we went to this, one of the more Backwoods, small churches in the area and probably like one step above snake handlers.And the preacher actually had the audacity to say that women had no place in church. And in my mind I was like, fuck it. I don't want to be here anyway. Like, I don't have a problem with Jesus. Jesus is amazing. But the Jesus saved me from your fucking followers, like so many of them. Right. And so I shaved my head and my parents sure enough were embarrassed and they did not make me go to church.So when for Heather.De'Vannon: You know what it is, what it is. You gotta do what you gotta do. Heather: Yeah.Yeah. De'Vannon: another one of your, I'll say mantras is the UL. You want to show folks, but checkered past you know, it was possible to recover. And you know, to, to basically [00:41:00] thrive after you've been broken down. So we won't get deep into your history here. Drug addiction. You mentioned cancer before on your site talks about mental, emotional sex abuse trauma. So this is the part of the show where we want to get into all of the darkness that has plagued you go. Heather: So bare yourself, just, you know, no, no. no. I'm happy to do it. I'm happy. It's, it's one of my, it's one of my gifts that I'm very comfortable, you know, talking about stuff. So from a very young age, I knew that I didn't belong where I was. I was, I was very confused. The, you know, my parents and my families and my town's beliefs did not mesh with mine. If you if anybody cares to remember in the, sometime in the eighties, I forget exactly when there were two, two marches, two civil rights marches on my town because there was red lining going on. They would [00:42:00] show African-American families, houses in the area and act as if they would sell them that the banks would always turn down the loans.And so my town was all white and you know, my family would tell you they're not racist. They're certainly not like cross burners, but they were still racist. They might've made no fucking sense to me. I mean, very, very young, like eight years old. This is stupid. This makes no sense. So, you know, stuff like that.And at a very young age, I knew actually, I didn't think it was anything wrong with being gay. It was when I was nine. mom was having a conversation with my sister. I have no idea why, but she was like, you know, if a girl starts telling you that you're pretty, or, you know, trying to like touch you, she's jumped.And if you said it out loud, like one would just spring up from the floor.And so, you know, that put me in the closet and again, you know, going to these churches, like nothing made sense. I was like this, like, I know I could tell, like there was some good stuff in [00:43:00] the Bible, but there was also a lot of fucking nonsense. And I was like, no, no, you know, I, I just, I didn't have this sense of belonging. I had a lot of depression and a lot of anxiety. When I was six or seven, an older neighbor molested me. He was only. 12, you know, so he wasn't an adult, but that age gap, that, that developmental gap, it, it qualifies as molestation. And that was, that was very confusing. Because I had gone through the good touch, bad touch program at school. my mother was a teacher, so I went in and I told her you're supposed to tell a trusted adult. And she said, that's normal and just turned around didn't do anything to stop it. So that fucked me up. Pretty good. Let's see. Yeah, so just it, you know, so many people that I dated were what I now realize were, were narcissists. And just very emotionally manipulative just had no self-esteem. [00:44:00] And the only thing that I, where I derived my self-esteem was my grades and my academic accomplishments and my school's accomplishments, you know, I was a soccer player. I was I was in drama. I was a co editor of the yearbook, you know, that kind of stuff.And then also from letting people just dump their problems on me, you know, I was, I was a good listener. Right. And these people, this is where I get my thing about people. Can't talk to me about something that they're not actively trying to change because I would just let people go on and on for hours.And they would be like, oh, Heather, you're such a good friend. I don't know what I would do without, you know, it gives such great advice and then they would not take any of it or they'd be have you ever heard the term askhole? De'Vannon: Yeah. Heather: doesn't ask. All right. They ask all the time, but they don't really do anything.So there was a lot of that. So I took on a lot of people's problems and you know, I'm, I'm empathic as well. So I was really just storing all this really, really negative. And my home life was like subtly fucked up. Like it wasn't [00:45:00] like screaming and yelling and like fighting and like drama and cops and all that stuff, you know, and, and all, all to say it could have been worse. But there was just a tension in the house. Like my parents didn't really get along. And so I got out, I'm like, well, this is one of the reasons why I was so focused on my academics is because I knew that come hell or high water. If I got a scholarship, I could get the fuck out of this town. And I really lived in here that like any second people were going to find out really who I was and how much I didn't belong.And I was going to be stoned to death. And that was awful, you know, so I pushed myself, I graduated second in my class. I got full scholarships. Got out. Thank you. got out, went to school and I thought once I got out, everything was going to be okay. But what happens a lot of times when. Working so hard to let get away from something.When you finally get away from it, you get a small reprieve, but then it's like, your psyche is like, oh, it's safe now to process all this crap that you push down and you're run over with it. [00:46:00] Right. So I entered into therapy. Well I started doing psychedelics. Psychedelics are amazing things. But not when you're depressed and you're already like off balanced and everything and it put me off more off balance. I think the depression and the kind of breakdown were coming anyway. But I got into therapy and I was in therapy for about three months when I just, I woke up one morning. I couldn't stop thinking about killing myself. And I was like, I was going to be alone that weekend in my dorm because my was going home to see your boyfriend or something.And I kept having this thing about, like, I was going to hang myself from our loft bed, which I don't even know if that's possible, but that's what kept going through my head. And it scared the shit out of me. I ended up going to a local mental hospital and checking myself in and you know, did they do the intake and everything?And they're like, yeah, you should stay here. And I was like, fuck. The funny thing with that though it was a Friday night, so I had to stay on suicide ward all weekend before they can really evaluate me on Monday [00:47:00] morning and I was pissed and I was like, look, if I wanted to kill myself, I would have stayed at home and done it for free.Give me my fucking belt. I wanted to kill myself. I would have done it at home. The other really funny thing, or kind of fucked up thing it was movie night. Like Friday night was movie night and they're like, yeah, we know we're going to watch a movie in a little while. We're going to watch Thelma and Louise.And I was like so I go to the office and I was like, you know, they kill themselves at the end. Right.It was suicide ward. I was like so that, you know, that got me into, I got me on psych meds, which I hated, but I took and you know, continued in therapy and therapy again, it kept me from jumping off a building was a good like release. It was a safe place for me to talk, but there wasn't enough challenging me to actually change and do something about it. And then from there, [00:48:00] after my second year of college, my family went fucking crazy. Like went like Jerry Springer, fucking crazy. And I don't even want to get, it was so bad. I don't even want to give any examples. Like it was just fucking nuts. And, you know, I had always been curious about sex work, but I was like, I come from a good family.I come from a good family. I can't go do that. I'm smart. I can't go do that. And my family went just really fucking crazy, I was like, you know what, I really don't. I didn't do it to hurt them, but I was like, I don't really care what they think anymore. I'm going to go have this adventure. that's when I got into sex work. comments, questions, concerns point?De'Vannon: No, not at all. Everything is isn't going wonderfully. I'm waiting for you to get to the drugs, man. Heather: Oh, the drugs man. Okay. So so, you know, because I was already doing psychedelics like once a month I moved out to Hawaii briefly. I had married a friend of [00:49:00] mine from high school. He was in the military and he couldn't live off base. Who's gay. He couldn't live off base unless he advanced to ranks or got married.And so we got married and it meant that when all this crisis was going on, I got to move to Waikiki. And so while I was there, I. Yeah, I did ecstasy for the first time. All that was there, did asset a couple of times you know, which is fun and amazing, you know, but I wasn't, it wasn't fucking up my life at this point. When I came back to Atlanta and sort of escorting again, I got around people who were, you know, daily pot smokers, all day pot smokers. I was just smoking a little bit at the end of each night. And then I got around some people, the roll blunts. And once I learned how to roll blunts, it was on and crack.And so within two years of, within three years of starting to do drugs, I had like an ounce a week pot habit. Like I was smoking like seven blocks a day and I could, I could smoke an entire block by myself and turn around and have a conversation with you. And you wouldn't even know I was high. Like I was like that kind of fucking druggie.[00:50:00]And, you know, with escorting. You know, they were frequently drunk. You love, I love to get Coke heads, like, well, it, within a certain range, like people that hadn't gone too far, so we'll not be in by too far. Is the people who are like picking through the carpets. Well, once they're out of Coke, it's time to go.That's just the thing, like they're picking their carpets. It's fucking time to go. But the people that they've got plenty of blow and they just keep checking the windows and they'll come back to the bed and they'll be like, I gotta go close the door and they go close the door. And then after two and they come back to the bed and like two minutes later, they're like, I got to open the door.Like that shit is fucking them. Not just people that are just like partying. It's like babysitting and you can be with them for hours and make shit tons of money. So like, those were great. I was allergic to Coke if I, if I did it, it shut down my nostrils for like a month and it didn't matter, the cut, whatever.Like there's something in it I'm genuinely allergic to. And so I would put it on my gums and stuff, but like, I wasn't, I never got [00:51:00] addicted to it because of that. You know, smoking a lot of weed, I could never find acid, which is like my favorite thing ever. So I started doing a lot of ecstasy and that's what I ultimately bottomed out on was ecstasy marijuana.And the only person I know who hit bottom on hippie drugs. And I wound up in AA for that. And that really pissed me off. I was last person. That was the last place I wanted to be, but actually turned out to be one of the best things that ever happened to me. But one of my funniest drug stories actually happened after I was after I was sober.So I went to see this client. And this is one of the things, first things that me and De'Vannon of bonded over because the name of his podcast, as you know, is sex, drugs and Jesus. So I went to see this guy and he was smoking crack and I was sober at the time. But you know, you can't, you can't get away from crack fumes.So I had like a second PM, like crack high basically, but this guy [00:52:00] was like, he was sitting in a bed and he was watching, we're watching like hardcore porn and a lot of men on, on Coke. Can't no I'm in on Coke. Can't get it up. So they can't, they can't have sex. So he was jerking off for having me jerk him off.You know, I'm just like sitting there with my loo, just, you know, going and I'm watching this hardcore porn and he's jerking off and he's witnessing to me about. Like he's telling the story and I could never really quite get the gist of it because he was very high, but he was telling this story about, I think, picking up a hitchhiker and witnessing to him about Jesus.But he's telling the story, like, while he's jerking off the hardcore porn with a hooker, I was like, this is fucking weird. But the thing I didn't tell you about yet De'Vannon was that while I'm sitting there and I mean, I was with this guy for probably three, four hours. And you know, I mean, he was like a middle-class white guy, you know, he wasn't like the stereotype of what you think [00:53:00] about, you know, crack smoker.But nonetheless, he was quite high, definitely smoking some crack. And but yeah, we're sitting there and we're sitting there and I'm, you know, I'm kind of bored, but I'm making good money and whatever. And but throughout my life, I have had what I describe as thoughts that are so loud that they, that I know they're not mine.It's like a thought comes to me. Okay. Well, that wasn't me, you know? And it's, it's God, it's God talking to me. I'm not a prophet. I'm not claiming anything like, crazy like that, but I've just, I've had instances where I'm just like, oh, okay. So I'm sitting there, this guy's, you know, doing his thing and I get this thought and it was.Tell him tell this man that you love him. And I was like, no, absolutely not. I don't know this person. Like there were people that I saw enough that I did actually form emotional attachments to them. I saw them for a long time and I saw them know over the course of years and, and we really hit it off, but this was the first time I'd ever met this person.And I was like, no, I'm [00:54:00] not doing that. And he would not leave me alone. It just kept pestering me and pestering me and pestering me until finally I was like, how do I do this? And not come across as a crazy person or get this? Cause it's gotta be a fucking stalker or something. And finally, I like got up on my, like on my, on my knees, on the bed.I was like kneeling beside him. And I like put my hands on his shoulders and I looked at it and I said, as one child to have a God to another, I want you to know that I love you. And I, it really touched something in him. And you're talking about how your job. As a recruiter wasn't ministry, but it was, there were times that I was definitely used by God to deliver a message as an escort.So there were times that that had a spiritual significance and that was, that was one of them. Six drugs and Jesus, baby.De'Vannon: There's no reason for us to, to try to play God in a box. Or a cube or rhombus or trapezoid or triangle or any fucking [00:55:00] shape that we can come up with because he simply just will not Heather: Hm. there's okay. Don can walk right into a crack house. He can talk to us when we're high it's happened to me and stuff like that before some people feel like you're drunk or high, or you're in certain places that are darker than the forest, that God is not there, but God's actually everywhere.Everywhere. De'Vannon: the Bible says, he's as near to us as the air we breathe on and there's air Everywhere.Heather: W. De'Vannon: you got conservative folks out there who want to say, he's only going to be here because he can only do this. I don't get do that, that's just their opinion. And they're going to try to sell it to you as fact and law and the only way, but that's That's just one way of looking at things. Heather: Well, it's crazy. You know, I had an aunt that she went Pentecostal and I love Pentecostal churches, the, the feeling in them, you know, but I just can't do get down with like, you know, a lot of the message, but she stopped hanging out with the family because we were [00:56:00] sinners and I'm like, Jesus hung out with sinners.this has no biblical basis.De'Vannon: But that's the way Pentecostals are. I grew up Pentecostal. I agree with you. I love the way it's failed, but I don't get down with the message because the message is very like church. People are better than everyone else, because I used to sit there thinking, God, how did I end up so lucky to be here? And the whole world is going to burn in hell, but just not the Pentecostal people like that.That is exactly what they believe with how they think, and everything is a problem and it's wrong. And you know, it's, it's very. You know, the grounded in a lot of insecurity because people could really make themselves feel great about themselves, the way they step on other people in Pentecostal churches.And I wanted to touch on something that you were saying about the sort of person who was smoking this here, crack, because it was as if, yeah, I've smoked crack in my day too. Heather: smoked crack crack [00:57:00] rocks.De'Vannon: It literally crack rocks. and, and this is something that I really like to talk about a lot is because crack heads and the drug use in general is not like it's done, like on documentaries are like saying Dave Chappelle and his whole Tyrone begins, know, not every crack head is homeless with white powdery lips and a beanie.And all of that. I used to sell crack to white men who lived in huge and. Houses. This is one house we went to closet was so big that me, the four dope boys who came with me and all of us could set in there with plenty of space to smoke the crack off of a mirror and everything like that. And this dude, I was lived in a damn good neighborhood in Houston, Texas, and it was not what you would think he Heather: Right. De'Vannon: teeth, know, and all of that and everything like that.And it's not. It's like governor Chris Christie. He likes, he likes cracking prostitutes. That's when he [00:58:00] was in the news for, you know, he's overweight and fat and white in a governor and he wants him some crack bitch. Heather: Yeah. Hi, I you know, Paul politicians I didn't did I say, I don't remember if I saw a politicians. I, it probably just didn't stick cause I don't give a fuck. Like high powered jobs, you know, lawyers, lawyers, love Coke, love Coke, love, crack doctors, love, Coke, love, crack you know, CEOs, you know that there's, there's, there's kind of a profile that goes with, you know, jobs and the type of drugs that people are more commonly going to do in them.And a high power bite, man. Love, love some fucking blow. They do. I can, I can confirm that.De'Vannon: I know I can sell so much cocaine and upscale bars and stuff, you know, they'd call me, I'd pull up with like an eight ball go in there. It's just a group of probably Caucasian people partying it up in VIP. That shit sold so [00:59:00] fast. know, they can Heather: Yeah. De'Vannon: it. It's a quick high, you got to keep more to say getting high.It's a smart bet. You know, you're going to be a drug dealer, Heather: Well the problem being like the, the penalties were, are so high. It was one of the reasons why I love selling pussy because it was missing. You know, I, I can, you know, I, it, that you've got it. You sell it, you still got it. You have to re up.De'Vannon: Well, you can go to Oregon now, know, and you know, you don't, the penalties are less severe, you know, there's no more going to jail for simple possession. there is for like dealers, but Heather: Yeah. De'Vannon: general attitude in the state of Oregon is like lenient towards the drugs in general. Heather: Well, because the thing is like the war on drugs, again, we're back to this. What you fight fights back. The war on drugs does not work. You know decriminalization has been shown in, in other places to be much better for all consensual crimes, you know, D decrim [01:00:00] criminalizing, it doesn't help anything. It just makes it worse and just drives it underground.Like these are basic human desires, and they're not going anywhere. They're just going to be subverted where it's going to be a lot more dangerous for everybody involved.De'Vannon: It makes it taboo and people love danger. People love what they can't have. Heather: That, that too, I've actually read studies where they said that kids were less likely to go get high in places that there wasn't a stigma around it. It was like, oh, I can just go to the store and buy weed. But it's like, okay, we've got to call my cousin and he's got a call his best friend's girlfriend so that we can find, you know, this dude that she knows, you know, and then we get there and we can't just buy the weed.We gotta go find him. A pair of JordansDe'Vannon: It's a whole thing, Heather: becomes like an adventure. Right. It was like all implicated, you know, but if we, if you could just, you know, walk into a store and be like, give me an eight, you know, like that's not very exciting, whatever.[01:01:00]De'Vannon: One of the drugs, one of the meth suppliers that I used to give my meth from that he would, he would say that was, that was probably the main reason why he stayed supplying crystal meth in Houston was because of the, the thrill of almost getting caught. So tells me if you make it illegal, Hey, everyone can just sell whatever.the fuck they want.He probably shut it down because there's no more thrilled with the chase. There's no more Tom and Jerry, more Wiley coyote in the road runner and there's. Heather: My shit I do. I miss. I that's one of the things I missed about escorting was that j
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