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Join Kyle, Nader, Vibhu, and swyx live at NVIDIA GTC next week!Now that AIE Europe tix are ~sold out, our attention turns to Miami and World's Fair!The definitive AI Accelerator chip company has more than 10xed this AI Summer:And is now a $4.4 trillion megacorp… that is somehow still moving like a startup. We are blessed to have a unique relationship with our first ever NVIDIA guests: Kyle Kranen who gave a great inference keynote at the first World's Fair and is one of the leading architects of NVIDIA Dynamo (a Datacenter scale inference framework supporting SGLang, TRT-LLM, vLLM), and Nader Khalil, a friend of swyx from our days in Celo in The Arena, who has been drawing developers at GTC since before they were even a glimmer in the eye of NVIDIA:Nader discusses how NVIDIA Brev has drastically reduced the barriers to entry for developers to get a top of the line GPU up and running, and Kyle explains NVIDIA Dynamo as a data center scale inference engine that optimizes serving by scaling out, leveraging techniques like prefill/decode disaggregation, scheduling, and Kubernetes-based orchestration, framed around cost, latency, and quality tradeoffs. We also dive into Jensen's “SOL” (Speed of Light) first-principles urgency concept, long-context limits and model/hardware co-design, internal model APIs (https://build.nvidia.com), and upcoming Dynamo and agent sessions at GTC.Full Video pod on YouTubeTimestamps00:00 Agent Security Basics00:39 Podcast Welcome and Guests07:19 Acquisition and DevEx Shift13:48 SOL Culture and Dynamo Setup27:38 Why Scale Out Wins29:02 Scale Up Limits Explained30:24 From Laptop to Multi Node33:07 Cost Quality Latency Tradeoffs38:42 Disaggregation Prefill vs Decode41:05 Kubernetes Scaling with Grove43:20 Context Length and Co Design57:34 Security Meets Agents58:01 Agent Permissions Model59:10 Build Nvidia Inference Gateway01:01:52 Hackathons And Autonomy Dreams01:10:26 Local GPUs And Scaling Inference01:15:31 Long Running Agents And SF ReflectionsTranscriptAgent Security BasicsNader: Agents can do three things. They can access your files, they can access the internet, and then now they can write custom code and execute it. You literally only let an agent do two of those three things. If you can access your files and you can write custom code, you don't want internet access because that's one to see full vulnerability, right?If you have access to internet and your file system, you should know the full scope of what that agent's capable of doing. Otherwise, now we can get injected or something that can happen. And so that's a lot of what we've been thinking about is like, you know, how do we both enable this because it's clearly the future.But then also, you know, what, what are these enforcement points that we can start to like protect?swyx: All right.Podcast Welcome and Guestsswyx: Welcome to the Lean Space podcast in the Chromo studio. Welcome to all the guests here. Uh, we are back with our guest host Viu. Welcome. Good to have you back. And our friends, uh, Netter and Kyle from Nvidia. Welcome.Kyle: Yeah, thanks for having us.swyx: Yeah, thank you. Actually, I don't even know your titles.Uh, I know you're like architect something of Dynamo.Kyle: Yeah. I, I'm one of the engineering leaders [00:01:00] and a architects of Dynamo.swyx: And you're director of something and developers, developer tech.Nader: Yeah.swyx: You're the developers, developers, developers guy at nvidia,Nader: open source agent marketing, brev,swyx: and likeNader: Devrel tools and stuff.swyx: Yeah. BeenNader: the focus.swyx: And we're, we're kind of recording this ahead of Nvidia, GTC, which is coming to town, uh, again, uh, or taking over town, uh, which, uh, which we'll all be at. Um, and we'll talk a little bit about your sessions and stuff. Yeah.Nader: We're super excited for it.GTC Booth Stunt Storiesswyx: One of my favorite memories for Nader, like you always do like marketing stunts and like while you were at Rev, you like had this surfboard that you like, went down to GTC with and like, NA Nvidia apparently, like did so much that they bought you.Like what, what was that like? What was that?Nader: Yeah. Yeah, we, we, um. Our logo was a chaka. We, we, uh, we were always just kind of like trying to keep true to who we were. I think, you know, some stuff, startups, you're like trying to pretend that you're a bigger, more mature company than you are. And it was actually Evan Conrad from SF Compute who was just like, you guys are like previousswyx: guest.Yeah.Nader: Amazing. Oh, really? Amazing. Yeah. He was just like, guys, you're two dudes in the room. Why are you [00:02:00] pretending that you're not? Uh, and so then we were like, okay, let's make the logo a shaka. We brought surfboards to our booth to GTC and the energy was great. Yeah. Some palm trees too. They,Kyle: they actually poked out over like the, the walls so you could, you could see the bread booth.Oh, that's so funny. AndNader: no one else,Kyle: just from very far away.Nader: Oh, so you remember it backKyle: then? Yeah I remember it pre-acquisition. I was like, oh, those guys look cool,Nader: dude. That makes sense. ‘cause uh, we, so we signed up really last minute, and so we had the last booth. It was all the way in the corner. And so I was, I was worried that no one was gonna come.So that's why we had like the palm trees. We really came in with the surfboards. We even had one of our investors bring her dog and then she was just like walking the dog around to try to like, bring energy towards our booth. Yeah.swyx: Steph.Kyle: Yeah. Yeah, she's the best,swyx: you know, as a conference organizer, I love that.Right? Like, it's like everyone who sponsors a conference comes, does their booth. They're like, we are changing the future of ai or something, some generic b******t and like, no, like actually try to stand out, make it fun, right? And people still remember it after three years.Nader: Yeah. Yeah. You know what's so funny?I'll, I'll send, I'll give you this clip if you wanna, if you wanna add it [00:03:00] in, but, uh, my wife was at the time fiance, she was in medical school and she came to help us. ‘cause it was like a big moment for us. And so we, we bought this cricket, it's like a vinyl, like a vinyl, uh, printer. ‘cause like, how else are we gonna label the surfboard?So, we got a surfboard, luckily was able to purchase that on the company card. We got a cricket and it was just like fine tuning for enterprises or something like that, that we put on the. On the surfboard and it's 1:00 AM the day before we go to GTC. She's helping me put these like vinyl stickers on.And she goes, you son of, she's like, if you pull this off, you son of a b***h. And so, uh, right. Pretty much after the acquisition, I stitched that with the mag music acquisition. I sent it to our family group chat. Ohswyx: Yeah. No, well, she, she made a good choice there. Was that like basically the origin story for Launchable is that we, it was, and maybe we should explain what Brev is andNader: Yeah.Yeah. Uh, I mean, brev is just, it's a developer tool that makes it really easy to get a GPU. So we connect a bunch of different GPU sources. So the basics of it is like, how quickly can we SSH you into a G, into a GPU and whenever we would talk to users, they wanted A GPU. They wanted an A 100. And if you go to like any cloud [00:04:00] provisioning page, usually it's like three pages of forms or in the forms somewhere there's a dropdown.And in the dropdown there's some weird code that you know to translate to an A 100. And I remember just thinking like. Every time someone says they want an A 100, like the piece of text that they're telling me that they want is like, stuffed away in the corner. Yeah. And so we were like, what if the biggest piece of text was what the user's asking for?And so when you go to Brev, it's just big GPU chips with the type that you want withswyx: beautiful animations that you worked on pre, like pre you can, like, now you can just prompt it. But back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Those were handcraft, handcrafted artisanal code.Nader: Yeah. I was actually really proud of that because, uh, it was an, i I made it in Figma.Yeah. And then I found, I was like really struggling to figure out how to turn it from like Figma to react. So what it actually is, is just an SVG and I, I have all the styles and so when you change the chip, whether it's like active or not it changes the SVG code and that somehow like renders like, looks like it's animating, but it, we just had the transition slow, but it's just like the, a JavaScript function to change the like underlying SVG.Yeah. And that was how I ended up like figuring out how to move it from from Figma. But yeah, that's Art Artisan. [00:05:00]Kyle: Speaking of marketing stunts though, he actually used those SVGs. Or kind of use those SVGs to make these cards.Nader: Oh yeah. LikeKyle: a GPU gift card Yes. That he handed out everywhere. That was actually my first impression of thatNader: one.Yeah,swyx: yeah, yeah.Nader: Yeah.swyx: I think I still have one of them.Nader: They look great.Kyle: Yeah.Nader: I have a ton of them still actually in our garage, which just, they don't have labels. We should honestly like bring, bring them back. But, um, I found this old printing press here, actually just around the corner on Ven ness. And it's a third generation San Francisco shop.And so I come in an excited startup founder trying to like, and they just have this crazy old machinery and I'm in awe. ‘cause the the whole building is so physical. Like you're seeing these machines, they have like pedals to like move these saws and whatever. I don't know what this machinery is, but I saw all three generations.Like there's like the grandpa, the father and the son, and the son was like, around my age. Well,swyx: it's like a holy, holy trinity.Nader: It's funny because we, so I just took the same SVG and we just like printed it and it's foil printing, so they make a a, a mold. That's like an inverse of like the A 100 and then they put the foil on it [00:06:00] and then they press it into the paper.And I remember once we got them, he was like, Hey, don't forget about us. You know, I guess like early Apple and Cisco's first business cards were all made there. And so he was like, yeah, we, we get like the startup businesses but then as they mature, they kind of go somewhere else. And so I actually, I think we were talking with marketing about like using them for some, we should go back and make some cards.swyx: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I remember, you know, as a very, very small breadth investor, I was like, why are we spending time like, doing these like stunts for GPUs? Like, you know, I think like as a, you know, typical like cloud hard hardware person, you go into an AWS you pick like T five X xl, whatever, and it's just like from a list and you look at the specs like, why animate this GP?And, and I, I do think like it just shows the level of care that goes throughout birth and Yeah. And now, and also the, and,Nader: and Nvidia. I think that's what the, the thing that struck me most when we first came in was like the amount of passion that everyone has. Like, I think, um, you know, you talk to, you talk to Kyle, you talk to, like, every VP that I've met at Nvidia goes so close to the metal.Like, I remember it was almost a year ago, and like my VP asked me, he's like, Hey, [00:07:00] what's cursor? And like, are you using it? And if so, why? Surprised at this, and he downloaded Cursor and he was asking me to help him like, use it. And I thought that was, uh, or like, just show him what he, you know, why we were using it.And so, the amount of care that I think everyone has and the passion, appreciate, passion and appreciation for the moment. Right. This is a very unique time. So it's really cool to see everyone really like, uh, appreciate that.swyx: Yeah.Acquisition and DevEx Shiftswyx: One thing I wanted to do before we move over to sort of like research topics and, uh, the, the stuff that Kyle's working on is just tell the story of the acquisition, right?Like, not many people have been, been through an acquisition with Nvidia. What's it like? Uh, what, yeah, just anything you'd like to say.Nader: It's a crazy experience. I think, uh, you know, we were the thing that was the most exciting for us was. Our goal was just to make it easier for developers.We wanted to find access to GPUs, make it easier to do that. And then all, oh, actually your question about launchable. So launchable was just make one click exper, like one click deploys for any software on top of the GPU. Mm-hmm. And so what we really liked about Nvidia was that it felt like we just got a lot more resources to do all of that.I think, uh, you [00:08:00] know, NVIDIA's goal is to make things as easy for developers as possible. So there was a really nice like synergy there. I think that, you know, when it comes to like an acquisition, I think the amount that the soul of the products align, I think is gonna be. Is going speak to the success of the acquisition.Yeah. And so it in many ways feels like we're home. This is a really great outcome for us. Like we you know, I love brev.nvidia.com. Like you should, you should use it's, it's theKyle: front page for GPUs.Nader: Yeah. Yeah. If you want GP views,Kyle: you go there, getswyx: it there, and it's like internally is growing very quickly.I, I don't remember You said some stats there.Nader: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, uh, I, I wish I had the exact numbers, but like internally, externally, it's been growing really quickly. We've been working with a bunch of partners with a bunch of different customers and ISVs, if you have a solution that you want someone that runs on the GPU and you want people to use it quickly, we can bundle it up, uh, in a launchable and make it a one click run.If you're doing things and you want just like a sandbox or something to run on, right. Like open claw. Huge moment. Super exciting. Our, uh, and we'll talk into it more, but. You know, internally, people wanna run this, and you, we know we have to be really careful from the security implications. Do we let this run on the corporate network?Security's guidance was, Hey, [00:09:00] run this on breath, it's in, you know, it's, it's, it's a vm, it's sitting in the cloud, it's off the corporate network. It's isolated. And so that's been our stance internally and externally about how to even run something like open call while we figure out how to run these things securely.But yeah,swyx: I think there's also like, you almost like we're the right team at the right time when Nvidia is starting to invest a lot more in developer experience or whatever you call it. Yeah. Uh, UX or I don't know what you call it, like software. Like obviously NVIDIA is always invested in software, but like, there's like, this is like a different audience.Yeah. It's aNader: widerKyle: developer base.swyx: Yeah. Right.Nader: Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny, it's like, it's not, uh,swyx: so like, what, what is it called internally? What, what is this that people should be aware that is going on there?Nader: Uh, what, like developer experienceswyx: or, yeah, yeah. Is it's called just developer experience or is there like a broader strategy hereNader: in Nvidia?Um, Nvidia always wants to make a good developer experience. The thing is and a lot of the technology is just really complicated. Like, it's not, it's uh, you know, I think, um. The thing that's been really growing or the AI's growing is having a huge moment, not [00:10:00] because like, let's say data scientists in 2018, were quiet then and are much louder now.The pie is com, right? There's a whole bunch of new audiences. My mom's wondering what she's doing. My sister's learned, like taught herself how to code. Like the, um, you know, I, I actually think just generally AI's a big equalizer and you're seeing a more like technologically literate society, I guess.Like everyone's, everyone's learning how to code. Uh, there isn't really an excuse for that. And so building a good UX means that you really understand who your end user is. And when your end user becomes such a wide, uh, variety of people, then you have to almost like reinvent the practice, right? Yeah. You haveKyle: to, and actually build more developer ux, right?Because the, there are tiers of developer base that were added. You know, the, the hackers that are building on top of open claw, right? For example, have never used gpu. They don't know what kuda is. They, they, they just want to run something.Nader: Yeah.Kyle: You need new UX that is not just. Hey, you know, how do you program something in Cuda and run it?And then, and then we built, you know, like when Deep Learning was getting big, we built, we built Torch and, and, but so recently the amount of like [00:11:00] layers that are added to that developer stack has just exploded because AI has become ubiquitous. Everyone's using it in different ways. Yeah. It'sNader: moving fast in every direction.Vertical, horizontal.Vibhu: Yeah. You guys, you even take it down to hardware, like the DGX Spark, you know, it's, it's basically the same system as just throwing it up on big GPU cluster.Nader: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing. Blackwell.swyx: Yeah. Uh, we saw the preview at the last year's GTC and that was one of the better performing, uh, videos so far, and video coverage so far.Awesome. This will beat it. Um,Nader: that wasswyx: actually, we have fingersNader: crossed. Yeah.DGX Spark and Remote AccessNader: Even when Grace Blackwell or when, um, uh, DGX Spark was first coming out getting to be involved in that from the beginning of the developer experience. And it just comes back to what youswyx: were involved.Nader: Yeah. St. St.swyx: Mars.Nader: Yeah. Yeah. I mean from, it was just like, I, I got an email, we just got thrown into the loop and suddenly yeah, I, it was actually really funny ‘cause I'm still pretty fresh from the acquisition and I'm, I'm getting an email from a bunch of the engineering VPs about like, the new hardware, GPU chip, like we're, or not chip, but just GPU system that we're putting out.And I'm like, okay, cool. Matters. Now involved with this for the ux, I'm like. What am I gonna do [00:12:00] here? So, I remember the first meeting, I was just like kind of quiet as I was hearing engineering VPs talk about what this box could be, what it could do, how we should use it. And I remember, uh, one of the first ideas that people were idea was like, oh, the first thing that it was like, I think a quote was like, the first thing someone's gonna wanna do with this is get two of them and run a Kubernetes cluster on top of them.And I was like, oh, I think I know why I'm here. I was like, the first thing we're doing is easy. SSH into the machine. And then, and you know, just kind of like scoping it down of like, once you can do that every, you, like the person who wants to run a Kubernetes cluster onto Sparks has a higher propensity for pain, then, then you know someone who buys it and wants to run open Claw right now, right?If you can make sure that that's as effortless as possible, then the rest becomes easy. So there's a tool called Nvidia Sync. It just makes the SSH connection really simple. So, you know, if you think about it like. If you have a Mac, uh, or a PC or whatever, if you have a laptop and you buy this GPU and you want to use it, you should be able to use it like it's A-A-G-P-U in the cloud, right?Um, but there's all this friction of like, how do you actually get into that? That's part of [00:13:00] Revs value proposition is just, you know, there's a CLI that wraps SSH and makes it simple. And so our goal is just get you into that machine really easily. And one thing we just launched at CES, it's in, it's still in like early access.We're ironing out some kinks, but it should be ready by GTC. You can register your spark on Brev. And so now if youswyx: like remote managed yeah, local hardware. Single pane of glass. Yeah. Yeah. Because Brev can already manage other clouds anyway, right?Vibhu: Yeah, yeah. And you use the spark on Brev as well, right?Nader: Yeah. But yeah, exactly. So, so you, you, so you, you set it up at home you can run the command on it, and then it gets it's essentially it'll appear in your Brev account, and then you can take your laptop to a Starbucks or to a cafe, and you'll continue to use your, you can continue use your spark just like any other cloud node on Brev.Yeah. Yeah. And it's just like a pre-provisioned centerswyx: in yourNader: home. Yeah, exactly.swyx: Yeah. Yeah.Vibhu: Tiny little data center.Nader: Tiny little, the size ofVibhu: your phone.SOL Culture and Dynamo Setupswyx: One more thing before we move on to Kyle. Just have so many Jensen stories and I just love, love mining Jensen stories. Uh, my favorite so far is SOL. Uh, what is, yeah, what is S-O-L-S-O-LNader: is actually, i, I think [00:14:00] of all the lessons I've learned, that one's definitely my favorite.Kyle: It'll always stick with you.Nader: Yeah. Yeah. I, you know, in your startup, everything's existential, right? Like we've, we've run out of money. We were like, on the risk of, of losing payroll, we've had to contract our team because we l ran outta money. And so like, um, because of that you're really always forcing yourself to I to like understand the root cause of everything.If you get a date, if you get a timeline, you know exactly why that date or timeline is there. You're, you're pushing every boundary and like, you're not just say, you're not just accepting like a, a no. Just because. And so as you start to introduce more layers, as you start to become a much larger organization, SOL is is essentially like what is the physics, right?The speed of light moves at a certain speed. So if flight's moving some slower, then you know something's in the way. So before trying to like layer reality back in of like, why can't this be delivered at some date? Let's just understand the physics. What is the theoretical limit to like, uh, how fast this can go?And then start to tell me why. ‘cause otherwise people will start telling you why something can't be done. But actually I think any great leader's goal is just to create urgency. Yeah. [00:15:00] There's an infiniteKyle: create compelling events, right?Nader: Yeah.Kyle: Yeah. So l is a term video is used to instigate a compelling event.You say this is done. How do we get there? What is the minimum? As much as necessary, as little as possible thing that it takes for us to get exactly here and. It helps you just break through a bunch of noise.swyx: Yeah.Kyle: Instantly.swyx: One thing I'm unclear about is, can only Jensen use the SOL card? Like, oh, no, no, no.Not everyone get the b******t out because obviously it's Jensen, but like, can someone else be like, no, likeKyle: frontline engineers use it.Nader: Yeah. Every, I think it's not so much about like, get the b******t out. It's like, it's like, give me the root understanding, right? Like, if you tell me something takes three weeks, it like, well, what's the first principles?Yeah, the first principles. It's like, what's the, what? Like why is it three weeks? What is the actual yeah. What's the actual limit of why this is gonna take three weeks? If you're gonna, if you, if let's say you wanted to buy a new computer and someone told you it's gonna be here in five days, what's the SOL?Well, like the SOL is like, I could walk into a Best Buy and pick it up for you. Right? So then anything that's like beyond that is, and is that practical? Is that how we're gonna, you know, let's say give everyone in the [00:16:00] company a laptop, like obviously not. So then like that's the SOL and then it's like, okay, well if we have to get more than 10, suddenly there might be some, right?And so now we can kind of piece the reality back.swyx: So, so this is the. Paul Graham do things that don't scale. Yeah. And this is also the, what people would now call behi agency. Yeah.Kyle: It's actually really interesting because there's a, there's a second hardware angle to SOL that like doesn't come up for all the org sol is used like culturally at aswyx: media for everything.I'm also mining for like, I think that can be annoying sometimes. And like someone keeps going IOO you and you're like, guys, like we have to be stable. We have to, we to f*****g plan. Yeah.Kyle: It's an interesting balance.Nader: Yeah. I encounter that with like, actually just with, with Alec, right? ‘cause we, we have a new conference so we need to launch, we have, we have goals of what we wanna launch by, uh, by the conference and like, yeah.At the end of the day, where isswyx: this GTC?Nader: Um, well this is like, so we, I mean we did it for CES, we did for GT CDC before that we're doing it for GTC San Jose. So I mean, like every, you know, we have a new moment. Um, and we want to launch something. Yeah. And we want to do so at SOL and that does mean that some, there's some level of prioritization that needs [00:17:00] to happen.And so it, it is difficult, right? I think, um, you have to be careful with what you're pushing. You know, stability is important and that should be factored into S-O-L-S-O-L isn't just like, build everything and let it break, you know, that, that's part of the conversation. So as you're laying, layering in all the details, one of them might be, Hey, we could build this, but then it's not gonna be stable for X, y, z reasons.And so that was like, one of our conversations for CES was, you know, hey, like we, we can get this into early access registering your spark with brev. But there are a lot of things that we need to do in order to feel really comfortable from a security perspective, right? There's a lot of networking involved before we deliver that to users.So it's like, okay. Let's get this to a point where we can at least let people experiment with it. We had it in a booth, we had it in Jensen's keynote, and then let's go iron out all the networking kinks. And that's not easy. And so, uh, that can come later. And so that was the way that we layered that back in.Yeah. ButKyle: It's not really about saying like, you don't have to do the, the maintenance or operational work. It's more about saying, you know, it's kind of like [00:18:00] highlights how progress is incremental, right? Like, what is the minimum thing that we can get to. And then there's SOL for like every component after that.But there's the SOL to get you, get you to the, the starting line. And that, that's usually how it's asked. Yeah. On the other side, you know, like SOL came out of like hardware at Nvidia. Right. So SOL is like literally if we ran the accelerator or the GPU with like at basically full speed with like no other constraints, like how FAST would be able to make a program go.swyx: Yeah. Yeah. Right.Kyle: Soswyx: in, in training that like, you know, then you work back to like some percentage of like MFU for example.Kyle: Yeah, that's a, that's a great example. So like, there's an, there's an S-O-L-M-F-U, and then there's like, you know, what's practically achievable.swyx: Cool. Should we move on to sort of, uh, Kyle's side?Uh, Kyle, you're coming more from the data science world. And, uh, I, I mean I always, whenever, whenever I meet someone who's done working in tabular stuff, graph neural networks, time series, these are basically when I go to new reps, I go to ICML, I walk the back halls. There's always like a small group of graph people.Yes. Absolute small group of tabular people. [00:19:00] And like, there's no one there. And like, it's very like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, no, like it's, it's important interesting work if you care about solving the problems that they solve.Kyle: Yeah.swyx: But everyone else is just LMS all the time.Kyle: Yeah. I mean it's like, it's like the black hole, right?Has the event horizon reached this yet in nerves? Um,swyx: but like, you know, those are, those are transformers too. Yeah. And, and those are also like interesting things. Anyway, uh, I just wanted to spend a little bit of time on, on those, that background before we go into Dynamo, uh, proper.Kyle: Yeah, sure. I took a different path to Nvidia than that, or I joined six years ago, seven, if you count, when I was an intern.So I joined Nvidia, like right outta college. And the first thing I jumped into was not what I'd done in, during internship, which was like, you know, like some stuff for autonomous vehicles, like heavyweight object detection. I jumped into like, you know, something, I'm like, recommenders, this is popular. Andswyx: yeah, he did RexiKyle: as well.Yeah, Rexi. Yeah. I mean that, that was the taboo data at the time, right? You have tables of like, audience qualities and item qualities, and you're trying to figure out like which member of [00:20:00] the audience matches which item or, or more practically which item matches which member of the audience. And at the time, really it was like we were trying to enable.Uh, recommender, which had historically been like a little bit of a CP based workflow into something that like, ran really well in GPUs. And it's since been done. Like there are a bunch of libraries for Axis that run on GPUs. Uh, the common models like Deeplearning recommendation model, which came outta meta and the wide and deep model, which was used or was released by Google were very accelerated by GPUs using, you know, the fast HBM on the chips, especially to do, you know, vector lookups.But it was very interesting at the time and super, super relevant because like we were starting to get like. This explosion of feeds and things that required rec recommenders to just actively be on all the time. And sort of transitioned that a little bit towards graph neural networks when I discovered them because I was like, okay, you can actually use graphical neural networks to represent like, relationships between people, items, concepts, and that, that interested me.So I jumped into that at [00:21:00] Nvidia and, and got really involved for like two-ish years.swyx: Yeah. Uh, and something I learned from Brian Zaro Yeah. Is that you can just kind of choose your own path in Nvidia.Kyle: Oh my God. Yeah.swyx: Which is not a normal big Corp thing. Yeah. Like you, you have a lane, you stay in your lane.Nader: I think probably the reason why I enjoy being in a, a big company, the mission is the boss probably from a startup guy. Yeah. The missionswyx: is the boss.Nader: Yeah. Uh, it feels like a big game of pickup basketball. Like, you know, if you play one, if you wanna play basketball, you just go up to the court and you're like, Hey look, we're gonna play this game and we need three.Yeah. And you just like find your three. That's honestly for every new initiative that's what it feels like. Yeah.Vibhu: It also like shows, right? Like Nvidia. Just releasing state-of-the-art stuff in every domain. Yeah. Like, okay, you expect foundation models with Nemo tron voice just randomly parakeet.Call parakeet just comes out another one, uh, voice. TheKyle: video voice team has always been producing.Vibhu: Yeah. There's always just every other domain of paper that comes out, dataset that comes out. It's like, I mean, it also stems back to what Nvidia has to do, right? You have to make chips years before they're actually produced.Right? So you need to know, you need to really [00:22:00] focus. TheKyle: design process starts likeVibhu: exactlyKyle: three to five years before the chip gets to the market.Vibhu: Yeah. I, I'm curious more about what that's like, right? So like, you have specialist teams. Is it just like, you know, people find an interest, you go in, you go deep on whatever, and that kind of feeds back into, you know, okay, we, we expect predictions.Like the internals at Nvidia must be crazy. Right? You know? Yeah. Yeah. You know, you, you must. Not even without selling to people, you have your own predictions of where things are going. Yeah. And they're very based, very grounded. Right?Kyle: Yeah. It, it, it's really interesting. So there's like two things that I think that Amed does, which are quite interesting.Uh, one is like, we really index into passion. There's a big. Sort of organizational top sound push to like ensure that people are working on the things that they're passionate about. So if someone proposes something that's interesting, many times they can just email someone like way up the chain that they would find this relevant and say like, Hey, can I go work on this?Nader: It's actually like I worked at a, a big company for a couple years before, uh, starting on my startup journey and like, it felt very weird if you were to like email out of chain, if that makes [00:23:00] sense. Yeah. The emails at Nvidia are like mosh pitsswyx: shoot,Nader: and it's just like 60 people, just whatever. And like they're, there's this,swyx: they got messy like, reply all you,Nader: oh, it's in, it's insane.It's insane. They justKyle: help. You know, Maxim,Nader: the context. But, but that's actually like, I've actually, so this is a weird thing where I used to be like, why would we send emails? We have Slack. I am the entire, I'm the exact opposite. I feel so bad for anyone who's like messaging me on Slack ‘cause I'm so unresponsive.swyx: Your emailNader: Maxi, email Maxim. I'm email maxing Now email is a different, email is perfect because man, we can't work together. I'm email is great, right? Because important threads get bumped back up, right? Yeah, yeah. Um, and so Slack doesn't do that. So I just have like this casino going off on the right or on the left and like, I don't know which thread was from where or what, but like the threads get And then also just like the subject, so you can have like working threads.I think what's difficult is like when you're small, if you're just not 40,000 people I think Slack will work fine, but there's, I don't know what the inflection point is. There is gonna be a point where that becomes really messy and you'll actually prefer having email. ‘cause you can have working threads.You can cc more than nine people in a thread.Kyle: You can fork stuff.Nader: You can [00:24:00] fork stuff, which is super nice and just like y Yeah. And so, but that is part of where you can propose a plan. You can also just. Start, honestly, momentum's the only authority, right? So like, if you can just start, start to make a little bit of progress and show someone something, and then they can try it.That's, I think what's been, you know, I think the most effective way to push anything for forward. And that's both at Nvidia and I think just generally.Kyle: Yeah, there's, there's the other concept that like is explored a lot at Nvidia, which is this idea of a zero billion dollar business. Like market creation is a big thing at Nvidia.Like,swyx: oh, you want to go and start a zero billion dollar business?Kyle: Jensen says, we are completely happy investing in zero billion dollar markets. We don't care if this creates revenue. It's important for us to know about this market. We think it will be important in the future. It can be zero billion dollars for a while.I'm probably minging as words here for, but like, you know, like, I'll give an example. NVIDIA's been working on autonomous driving for a a long time,swyx: like an Nvidia car.Kyle: No, they, they'veVibhu: used the Mercedes, right? They're around the HQ and I think it finally just got licensed out. Now they're starting to be used quite a [00:25:00] bit.For 10 years you've been seeing Mercedes with Nvidia logos driving.Kyle: If you're in like the South San Santa Clara, it's, it's actually from South. Yeah. So, um. Zero billion dollar markets are, are a thing like, you know, Jensen,swyx: I mean, okay, look, cars are not a zero billion dollar market. But yeah, that's a bad example.Nader: I think, I think he's, he's messaging, uh, zero today, but, or even like internally, right? Like, like it's like, uh, an org doesn't have to ruthlessly find revenue very quickly to justify their existence. Right. Like a lot of the important research, a lot of the important technology being developed that, that's kind ofKyle: where research, research is very ide ideologically free at Nvidia.Yeah. Like they can pursue things that they wereswyx: Were you research officially?Kyle: I was never in research. Officially. I was always in engineering. Yeah. We in, I'm in an org called Deep Warning Algorithms, which is basically just how do we make things that are relevant to deep warning go fast.swyx: That sounds freaking cool.Vibhu: And I think a lot of that is underappreciated, right? Like time series. This week Google put out time. FF paper. Yeah. A new time series, paper res. Uh, Symantec, ID [00:26:00] started applying Transformers LMS to Yes. Rec system. Yes. And when you think the scale of companies deploying these right. Amazon recommendations, Google web search, it's like, it's huge scale andKyle: Yeah.Vibhu: You want fast?Kyle: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually it's, it, I, there's a fun moment that brought me like full circle. Like, uh, Amazon Ads recently gave a talk where they talked about using Dynamo for generative recommendation, which was like super, like weirdly cathartic for me. I'm like, oh my God. I've, I've supplanted what I was working on.Like, I, you're using LMS now to do what I was doing five years ago.swyx: Yeah. Amazing. And let's go right into Dynamo. Uh, maybe introduce Yeah, sure. To the top down and Yeah.Kyle: I think at this point a lot of people are familiar with the term of inference. Like funnily enough, like I went from, you know, inference being like a really niche topic to being something that's like discussed on like normal people's Twitter feeds.It's,Nader: it's on billboardsKyle: here now. Yeah. Very, very strange. Driving, driving, seeing just an inference ad on 1 0 1 inference at scale is becoming a lot more important. Uh, we have these moments like, you know, open claw where you have these [00:27:00] agents that take lots and lots of tokens, but produce, incredible results.There are many different aspects of test time scaling so that, you know, you can use more inference to generate a better result than if you were to use like a short amount of inference. There's reasoning, there's quiring, there's, adding agency to the model, allowing it to call tools and use skills.Dyno sort came about at Nvidia. Because myself and a couple others were, were sort of talking about the, these concepts that like, you know, you have inference engines like VLMS, shelan, tenor, TLM and they have like one single copy. They, they, they sort of think about like things as like one single copy, like one replica, right?Why Scale Out WinsKyle: Like one version of the model. But when you're actually serving things at scale, you can't just scale up that replica because you end up with like performance problems. There's a scaling limit to scaling up replicas. So you actually have to scale out to use a, maybe some Kubernetes type terminology.We kind of realized that there was like. A lot of potential optimization that we could do in scaling out and building systems for data [00:28:00] center scale inference. So Dynamo is this data center scale inference engine that sits on top of the frameworks like VLM Shilling and 10 T lm and just makes things go faster because you can leverage the economy of scale.The fact that you have KV cash, which we can define a little bit later, uh, in all these machines that is like unique and you wanna figure out like the ways to maximize your cash hits or you want to employ new techniques in inference like disaggregation, which Dynamo had introduced to the world in, in, in March, not introduced, it was a academic talk, but beforehand.But we are, you know, one of the first frameworks to start, supporting it. And we wanna like, sort of combine all these techniques into sort of a modular framework that allows you to. Accelerate your inference at scale.Nader: By the way, Kyle and I became friends on my first date, Nvidia, and I always loved, ‘cause like he always teaches meswyx: new things.Yeah. By the way, this is why I wanted to put two of you together. I was like, yeah, this is, this is gonna beKyle: good. It's very, it's very different, you know, like we've, we, we've, we've talked to each other a bunch [00:29:00] actually, you asked like, why, why can't we scale up?Nader: Yeah.Scale Up Limits ExplainedNader: model, you said model replicas.Kyle: Yeah. So you, so scale up means assigning moreswyx: heavier?Kyle: Yeah, heavier. Like making things heavier. Yeah, adding more GPUs. Adding more CPUs. Scale out is just like having a barrier saying, I'm gonna duplicate my representation of the model or a representation of this microservice or something, and I'm gonna like, replicate it Many times.Handle, load. And the reason that you can't scale, scale up, uh, past some points is like, you know, there, there, there are sort of hardware bounds and algorithmic bounds on, on that type of scaling. So I'll give you a good example that's like very trivial. Let's say you're on an H 100. The Maxim ENV link domain for H 100, for most Ds H one hundreds is heus, right?So if you scaled up past that, you're gonna have to figure out ways to handle the fact that now for the GPUs to communicate, you have to do it over Infin band, which is still very fast, but is not as fast as ENV link.swyx: Is it like one order of magnitude, like hundreds or,Kyle: it's about an order of magnitude?Yeah. Okay. Um, soswyx: not terrible.Kyle: [00:30:00] Yeah. I, I need to, I need to remember the, the data sheet here, like, I think it's like about 500 gigabytes. Uh, a second unidirectional for ENV link, and about 50 gigabytes a second unidirectional for Infin Band. I, it, it depends on the, the generation.swyx: I just wanna set this up for people who are not familiar with these kinds of like layers and the trash speedVibhu: and all that.Of course.From Laptop to Multi NodeVibhu: Also, maybe even just going like a few steps back before that, like most people are very familiar with. You see a, you know, you can use on your laptop, whatever these steel viol, lm you can just run inference there. All, there's all, you can, youcan run it on thatVibhu: laptop. You can run on laptop.Then you get to, okay, uh, models got pretty big, right? JLM five, they doubled the size, so mm-hmm. Uh, what do you do when you have to go from, okay, I can get 128 gigs of memory. I can run it on a spark. Then you have to go multi GPU. Yeah. Okay. Multi GPU, there's some support there. Now, if I'm a company and I don't have like.I'm not hiring the best researchers for this. Right. But I need to go [00:31:00] multi-node, right? I have a lot of servers. Okay, now there's efficiency problems, right? You can have multiple eight H 100 nodes, but, you know, is that as a, like, how do you do that efficiently?Kyle: Yeah. How do you like represent them? How do you choose how to represent the model?Yeah, exactly right. That's a, that's like a hard question. Everyone asks, how do you size oh, I wanna run GLM five, which just came out new model. There have been like four of them in the past week, by the way, like a bunch of new models.swyx: You know why? Right? Deep seek.Kyle: No comment. Oh. Yeah, but Ggl, LM five, right?We, we have this, new model. It's, it's like a large size, and you have to figure out how to both scale up and scale out, right? Because you have to find the right representation that you care about. Everyone does this differently. Let's be very clear. Everyone figures this out in their own path.Nader: I feel like a lot of AI or ML even is like, is like this. I think people think, you know, I, I was, there was some tweet a few months ago that was like, why hasn't fine tuning as a service taken off? You know, that might be me. It might have been you. Yeah. But people want it to be such an easy recipe to follow.But even like if you look at an ML model and specificKyle: to you Yeah,Nader: yeah.Kyle: And the [00:32:00] model,Nader: the situation, and there's just so much tinkering, right? Like when you see a model that has however many experts in the ME model, it's like, why that many experts? I don't, they, you know, they tried a bunch of things and that one seemed to do better.I think when it comes to how you're serving inference, you know, you have a bunch of decisions to make and there you can always argue that you can take something and make it more optimal. But I think it's this internal calibration and appetite for continued calibration.Vibhu: Yeah. And that doesn't mean like, you know, people aren't taking a shot at this, like tinker from thinking machines, you know?Yeah. RL as a service. Yeah, totally. It's, it also gets even harder when you try to do big model training, right? We're not the best at training Moes, uh, when they're pre-trained. Like we saw this with LAMA three, right? They're trained in such a sparse way that meta knows there's gonna be a bunch of inference done on these, right?They'll open source it, but it's very trained for what meta infrastructure wants, right? They wanna, they wanna inference it a lot. Now the question to basically think about is, okay, say you wanna serve a chat application, a coding copilot, right? You're doing a layer of rl, you're serving a model for X amount of people.Is it a chat model, a coding model? Dynamo, you know, back to that,Kyle: it's [00:33:00] like, yeah, sorry. So you we, we sort of like jumped off of, you know, jumped, uh, on that topic. Everyone has like, their own, own journey.Cost Quality Latency TradeoffsKyle: And I, I like to think of it as defined by like, what is the model you need? What is the accuracy you need?Actually I talked to NA about this earlier. There's three axes you care about. What is the quality that you're able to produce? So like, are you accurate enough or can you complete the task with enough, performance, high enough performance. Yeah, yeah. Uh, there's cost. Can you serve the model or serve your workflow?Because it's not just the model anymore, it's the workflow. It's the multi turn with an agent cheaply enough. And then can you serve it fast enough? And we're seeing all three of these, like, play out, like we saw, we saw new models from OpenAI that you know, are faster. You have like these new fast versions of models.You can change the amount of thinking to change the amount of quality, right? Produce more tokens, but at a higher cost in a, in a higher latency. And really like when you start this journey of like trying to figure out how you wanna host a model, you, you, you think about three things. What is the model I need to serve?How many times do I need to call it? What is the input sequence link was [00:34:00] the, what does the workflow look like on top of it? What is the SLA, what is the latency SLA that I need to achieve? Because there's usually some, this is usually like a constant, you, you know, the SLA that you need to hit and then like you try and find the lowest cost version that hits all of these constraints.Usually, you know, you, you start with those things and you say you, you kind of do like a bit of experimentation across some common configurations. You change the tensor parallel size, which is a form of parallelismVibhu: I take, it goes even deeper first. Gotta think what model.Kyle: Yes, course,ofKyle: course. It's like, it's like a multi-step design process because as you said, you can, you can choose a smaller model and then do more test time scaling and it'll equate the quality of a larger model because you're doing the test time scaling or you're adding a harness or something.So yes, it, it goes way deeper than that. But from the performance perspective, like once you get to the model you need, you need to host, you look at that and you say, Hey. I have this model, I need to serve it at the speed. What is the right configuration for that?Nader: You guys see the recent, uh, there was a paper I just saw like a few days ago that, uh, if you run [00:35:00] the same prompt twice, you're getting like double Just try itagain.Nader: Yeah, exactly.Vibhu: And you get a lot. Yeah. But the, the key thing there is you give the context of the failed try, right? Yeah. So it takes a shot. And this has been like, you know, basic guidance for quite a while. Just try again. ‘cause you know, trying, just try again. Did you try again? All adviceNader: in life.Vibhu: Just, it's a paper from Google, if I'm not mistaken, right?Yeah,Vibhu: yeah. I think it, it's like a seven bas little short paper. Yeah. Yeah. The title's very cute. And it's just like, yeah, just try again. Give it ask context,Kyle: multi-shot. You just like, say like, hey, like, you know, like take, take a little bit more, take a little bit more information, try and fail. Fail.Vibhu: And that basic concept has gone pretty deep.There's like, um, self distillation, rl where you, you do self distillation, you do rl and you have past failure and you know, that gives some signal so people take, try it again. Not strong enough.swyx: Uh, for, for listeners, uh, who listen to here, uh, vivo actually, and I, and we run a second YouTube channel for our paper club where, oh, that's awesome.Vivo just covered this. Yeah. Awesome. Self desolation and all that's, that's why he, to speed [00:36:00] on it.Nader: I'll to check it out.swyx: Yeah. It, it's just a good practice, like everyone needs, like a paper club where like you just read papers together and the social pressure just kind of forces you to just,Nader: we, we,there'sNader: like a big inference.Kyle: ReadingNader: group at a video. I feel so bad every time. I I, he put it on like, on our, he shared it.swyx: One, one ofNader: your guys,swyx: uh, is, is big in that, I forget es han Yeah, yeah,Kyle: es Han's on my team. Actually. Funny. There's a, there's a, there's a employee transfer between us. Han worked for Nater at Brev, and now he, he's on my team.He wasNader: our head of ai. And then, yeah, once we got in, andswyx: because I'm always looking for like, okay, can, can I start at another podcast that only does that thing? Yeah. And, uh, Esan was like, I was trying to like nudge Esan into like, is there something here? I mean, I don't think there's, there's new infant techniques every day.So it's like, it's likeKyle: you would, you would actually be surprised, um, the amount of blog posts you see. And ifswyx: there's a period where it was like, Medusa hydra, what Eagle, like, youKyle: know, now we have new forms of decode, uh, we have new forms of specula, of decoding or new,swyx: what,Kyle: what are youVibhu: excited? And it's exciting when you guys put out something like Tron.‘cause I remember the paper on this Tron three, [00:37:00] uh, the amount of like post train, the on tokens that the GPU rich can just train on. And it, it was a hybrid state space model, right? Yeah.Kyle: It's co-designed for the hardware.Vibhu: Yeah, go design for the hardware. And one of the things was always, you know, the state space models don't scale as well when you do a conversion or whatever the performance.And you guys are like, no, just keep draining. And Nitron shows a lot of that. Yeah.Nader: Also, something cool about Nitron it was released in layers, if you will, very similar to Dynamo. It's, it's, it's essentially it was released as you can, the pre-training, post-training data sets are released. Yeah. The recipes on how to do it are released.The model itself is released. It's full model. You just benefit from us turning on the GPUs. But there are companies like, uh, ServiceNow took the dataset and they trained their own model and we were super excited and like, you know, celebrated that work.ZoomVibhu: different. Zoom is, zoom is CGI, I think, uh, you know, also just to add like a lot of models don't put out based models and if there's that, why is fine tuning not taken off?You know, you can do your own training. Yeah,Kyle: sure.Vibhu: You guys put out based model, I think you put out everything.Nader: I believe I know [00:38:00]swyx: about base. BasicallyVibhu: without baseswyx: basic can be cancelable.Vibhu: Yeah. Base can be cancelable.swyx: Yeah.Vibhu: Safety training.swyx: Did we get a full picture of dymo? I, I don't know if we, what,Nader: what I'd love is you, you mentioned the three axes like break it down of like, you know, what's prefilled decode and like what are the optimizations that we can get with Dynamo?Kyle: Yeah. That, that's, that's, that's a great point. So to summarize on that three axis problem, right, there are three things that determine whether or not something can be done with inference, cost, quality, latency, right? Dynamo is supposed to be there to provide you like the runtime that allows you to pull levers to, you know, mix it up and move around the parade of frontier or the preto surface that determines is this actually possible with inference And AI todayNader: gives you the knobs.Kyle: Yeah, exactly. It gives you the knobs.Disaggregation Prefill vs DecodeKyle: Uh, and one thing that like we, we use a lot in contemporary inference and is, you know, starting to like pick up from, you know, in, in general knowledge is this co concept of disaggregation. So historically. Models would be hosted with a single inference engine. And that inference engine [00:39:00] would ping pong between two phases.There's prefill where you're reading the sequence generating KV cache, which is basically just a set of vectors that represent the sequence. And then using that KV cache to generate new tokens, which is called Decode. And some brilliant researchers across multiple different papers essentially made the realization that if you separate these two phases, you actually gain some benefits.Those benefits are basically a you don't have to worry about step synchronous scheduling. So the way that an inference engine works is you do one step and then you finish it, and then you schedule, you start scheduling the next step there. It's not like fully asynchronous. And the problem with that is you would have, uh, essentially pre-fill and decode are, are actually very different in terms of both their resource requirements and their sometimes their runtime.So you would have like prefill that would like block decode steps because you, you'd still be pre-filing and you couldn't schedule because you know the step has to end. So you remove that scheduling issue and then you also allow you, or you yourself, to like [00:40:00] split the work into two different ki types of pools.So pre-fill typically, and, and this changes as, as model architecture changes. Pre-fill is, right now, compute bound most of the time with the sequence is sufficiently long. It's compute bound. On the decode side because you're doing a full Passover, all the weights and the entire sequence, every time you do a decode step and you're, you don't have the quadratic computation of KV cache, it's usually memory bound because you're retrieving a linear amount of memory and you're doing a linear amount of compute as opposed to prefill where you retrieve a linear amount of memory and then use a quadratic.You know,Nader: it's funny, someone exo Labs did a really cool demo where for the DGX Spark, which has a lot more compute, you can do the pre the compute hungry prefill on a DG X spark and then do the decode on a, on a Mac. Yeah. And soVibhu: that's faster.Nader: Yeah. Yeah.Kyle: So you could, you can do that. You can do machine strat stratification.Nader: Yeah.Kyle: And like with our future generation generations of hardware, we actually announced, like with Reuben, this [00:41:00] new accelerator that is prefilled specific. It's called Reuben, CPX. SoKubernetes Scaling with GroveNader: I have a question when you do the scale out. Yeah. Is scaling out easier with Dynamo? Because when you need a new node, you can dedicate it to either the Prefill or, uh, decode.Kyle: Yeah. So Dynamo actually has like a, a Kubernetes component in it called Grove that allows you to, to do this like crazy scaling specialization. It has like this hot, it's a representation that, I don't wanna go too deep into Kubernetes here, but there was a previous way that you would like launch multi-node work.Uh, it's called Leader Worker Set. It's in the Kubernetes standard, and Leader worker set is great. It served a lot of people super well for a long period of time. But one of the things that it's struggles with is representing a set of cases where you have a multi-node replica that has a pair, right?You know, prefill and decode, or it's not paired, but it has like a second stage that has a ratio that changes over time. And prefill and decode are like two different things as your workload changes, right? The amount of prefill you'll need to do may change. [00:42:00] The amount of decode that you, you'll need to do might change, right?Like, let's say you start getting like insanely long queries, right? That probably means that your prefill scales like harder because you're hitting these, this quadratic scaling growth.swyx: Yeah.And then for listeners, like prefill will be long input. Decode would be long output, for example, right?Kyle: Yeah. So like decode, decode scale. I mean, decode is funny because the amount of tokens that you produce scales with the output length, but the amount of work that you do per step scales with the amount of tokens in the context.swyx: Yes.Kyle: So both scales with the input and the output.swyx: That's true.Kyle: But on the pre-fold view code side, like if.Suddenly, like the amount of work you're doing on the decode side stays about the same or like scales a little bit, and then the prefilled side like jumps up a lot. You actually don't want that ratio to be the same. You want it to change over time. So Dynamo has a set of components that A, tell you how to scale.It tells you how many prefilled workers and decoded workers you, it thinks you should have, and also provides a scheduling API for Kubernetes that allows you to actually represent and affect this scheduling on, on, on your actual [00:43:00] hardware, on your compute infrastructure.Nader: Not gonna lie. I feel a little embarrassed for being proud of my SVG function earlier.swyx: No, itNader: wasreallyKyle: cute. I, Iswyx: likeNader: it's all,swyx: it's all engineering. It's all engineering. Um, that's where I'mKyle: technical.swyx: One thing I'm, I'm kind of just curious about with all with you see at a systems level, everything going on here. Mm-hmm. And we, you know, we're scaling it up in, in multi, in distributed systems.Context Length and Co Designswyx: Um, I think one thing that's like kind of, of the moment right now is people are asking, is there any SOL sort of upper bounds. In terms of like, let's call, just call it context length for one for of a better word, but you can break it down however you like.Nader: Yeah.swyx: I just think like, well, yeah, I mean, like clearly you can engage in hybrid architectures and throw in some state space models in there.All, all you want, but it looks, still looks very attention heavy.Kyle: Yes. Uh, yeah. Long context is attention heavy. I mean, we have these hybrid models, um,swyx: to take and most, most models like cap out at a million contexts and that's it. Yeah. Like for the last two years has been it.Kyle: Yeah. The model hardware context co-design thing that we're seeing these days is actually super [00:44:00] interesting.It's like my, my passion, like my secret side passion. We see models like Kimmy or G-P-T-O-S-S. I'm use these because I, I know specific things about these models. So Kimmy two comes out, right? And it's an interesting model. It's like, like a deep seek style architecture is MLA. It's basically deep seek, scaled like a little bit differently, um, and obviously trained differently as well.But they, they talked about, why they made the design choices for context. Kimmy has more experts, but fewer attention heads, and I believe a slightly smaller attention, uh, like dimension. But I need to remember, I need to check that. Uh, it doesn't matter. But they discussed this actually at length in a blog post on ji, which is like our pu which is like credit puswyx: Yeah.Kyle: Um, in, in China. Chinese red.swyx: Yeah.Kyle: It's, yeah. So it, it's, it's actually an incredible blog post. Uh, like all the mls people in, in, in that, I've seen that on GPU are like very brilliant, but they, they talk about like the creators of Kimi K two [00:45:00] actually like, talked about it on, on, on there in the blog post.And they say, we, we actually did an experiment, right? Attention scales with the number of heads, obviously. Like if you have 64 heads versus 32 heads, you do half the work of attention. You still scale quadratic, but you do half the work. And they made a, a very specific like. Sort of barter in their system, in their architecture, they basically said, Hey, what if we gave it more experts, so we're gonna use more memory capacity.But we keep the amount of activated experts the same. We increase the expert sparsity, so we have fewer experts act. The ratio to of experts activated to number of experts is smaller, and we decrease the number of attention heads.Vibhu: And kind of for context, what the, what we had been seeing was you make models sparser instead.So no one was really touching heads. You're just having, uh,Kyle: well, they, they did, they implicitly made it sparser.Vibhu: Yeah, yeah. For, for Kimmy. They did,Kyle: yes.Vibhu: They also made it sparser. But basically what we were seeing was people were at the level of, okay, there's a sparsity ratio. You want more total parameters, less active, and that's sparsity.[00:46:00]But what you see from papers, like, the labs like moonshot deep seek, they go to the level of, okay, outside of just number of experts, you can also change how many attention heads and less attention layers. More attention. Layers. Layers, yeah. Yes, yes. So, and that's all basically coming back to, just tied together is like hardware model, co-design, which isKyle: hardware model, co model, context, co-design.Vibhu: Yeah.Kyle: Right. Like if you were training a, a model that was like. Really, really short context, uh, or like really is good at super short context tasks. You may like design it in a way such that like you don't care about attention scaling because it hasn't hit that, like the turning point where like the quadratic curve takes over.Nader: How do you consider attention or context as a separate part of the co-design? Like I would imagine hardware or just how I would've thought of it is like hardware model. Co-design would be hardware model context co-designKyle: because the harness and the context that is produced by the harness is a part of the model.Once it's trained in,Vibhu: like even though towards the end you'll do long context, you're not changing architecture through I see. Training. Yeah.Kyle: I mean you can try.swyx: You're saying [00:47:00] everyone's training the harness into the model.Kyle: I would say to some degree, orswyx: there's co-design for harness. I know there's a small amount, but I feel like not everyone has like gone full send on this.Kyle: I think, I think I think it's important to internalize the harness that you think the model will be running. Running into the model.swyx: Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Bash is like the universal harness,Kyle: right? Like I'll, I'll give. An example here, right? I mean, or just like a, like a, it's easy proof, right? If you can train against a harness and you're using that harness for everything, wouldn't you just train with the harness to ensure that you get the best possible quality out of,swyx: Well, the, uh, I, I can provide a counter argument.Yeah, sure. Which is what you wanna provide a generally useful model for other people to plug into their harnesses, right? So if youKyle: Yeah. Harnesses can be open, open source, right?swyx: Yeah. So I mean, that's, that's effectively what's happening with Codex.Kyle: Yeah.swyx: And, but like you may want like a different search tool and then you may have to name it differently or,Nader: I don't know how much people have pushed on this, but can you.Train a model, would it be, have you have people compared training a model for the for the harness versus [00:48:00] like post training forswyx: I think it's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's okay. Just extra post training. INader: see.swyx: And so, I mean, cognition does this course, it does this where you, you just have to like, if your tool is slightly different, um, either force your tool to be like the tool that they train for.Hmm. Or undo their training for their tool and then Oh, that's re retrain. Yeah. It's, it's really annoying and like,Kyle: I would hope that eventually we hit like a certain level of generality with respect to training newswyx: tools. This is not a GI like, it's, this is a really stupid like. Learn my tool b***h.Like, I don't know if, I don't know if I can say that, but like, you know, um, I think what my point kind of is, is that there's, like, I look at slopes of the scaling laws and like, this slope is not working, man. We, we are at a million token con

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Established in 1967 by Reginald Newnham and now under third-generation family leadership, Newnham Engineering Limited has undergone a remarkable transformation from traditional machining to cutting-edge 5-axis manufacturing. Through investments in DMG MORI machine tools, this West Sussex-based company has acquired a DMU 75 monoBLOCK, DMU 100 FD duoBLOCK, and a CMX 70 U. Operating from their modern facility on Lancing Business Park, Newnham serves demanding sectors including oil and gas, surveillance, F1, and specialised industrial applications. What distinguishes them in today's competitive landscape is their commitment to ‘machining excellence', backed by technology investments that have fundamentally reshaped their capabilities and market positioning. The Technology Foundation The DMU 75 monoBLOCK serves as the cornerstone of Newnham's 5-axis capabilities. This machine handles workpieces up to 840mm in diameter, 500mm in height, and 600kg. Its 20,000rpm spindle capability and monoBLOCK construction provide the precision and versatility essential for complex aluminium components that dominate Newnham's production. “It was quite a smooth transition into our latest 5-axis machine, the Monoblock 75,” Lawrence Newnham explains. “Like all the pain we come through with learning how to use the new CAM system, how to use full 5-axis, how to use zero pointing, and using all of that efficiently as well. Going onto the Monoblock 75 it was so smooth.” The DMU 100 FD duoBLOCK is capacity expansion with the ability to handle workpieces weighing up to 2,200kg. This 4th generation duoBLOCK machine delivers 30% more precision, performance and efficiency compared to previous generations through FEM-optimised structure and enhanced components. The dramatic capabilities become evident when Lawrence describes processing large aluminium billets: “Currently, the part on the machine is one ton. We'll shy of that, and it finishes up about 250kg. So, a 75% material reduction there. We can fill a bin up in probably 45 minutes – that's how quickly we can remove material.” Completing the trio, the CMX 70 U brings 5-axis precision to smaller applications with its C-frame design and mineral cast bed construction. The machine features 750 by 600 by 520mm travels, handles components up to 350kg, and operates with a 12,000rpm spindle delivering 13kW power and 83Nm torque. Business Transformation Through Strategic Partnership Newnham's evolution illustrates the challenge many manufacturers face transitioning from indexed 5-axis machining (3+2) to full simultaneous 5-axis operations. “We started with three plus two, and then we took this big jump to a DMG MORI DMU 100 FD duoBLOCK, it's a hell of a machine,” Lawrence noted. This technological leap required significant investment in CAM programming expertise, and setup procedures. However, the learning curve ultimately positioned Newnham with capabilities that differentiate it from competitors. Phil Newnham reflected on the transformation: “The components we do these days are night and day in technology compared with what we used to do. It's just really exciting.” The partnership with DMG MORI extends beyond equipment supply to comprehensive support. Philip Clapp from DMG MORI described the collaborative approach: “Lawrence and Phil turned to me one day and said, ‘can you come and see us?' 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From a family business founded to a technology-enabled precision manufacturer serving Formula 1 and other demanding industries, Newnham's journey provides a roadmap for manufacturers seeking to advance their capabilities in an increasingly competitive global marketplace.  

In this second episode of the Sales Today podcast miniseries, Fred Copestake continues his conversation with sales tech expert Hanneke Vogels - this time addressing how modern technology can transform your research process before engaging with prospects.   The focus is on understanding who you're talking to, what they care about, and how to personalise outreach in meaningful ways using tools already at your fingertips.   From mapping complex Decision Making Units (DMUs) to exploring individual communication styles with DISC-based AI profiling, this episode highlights how tech can sharpen your preparation and relevance in every interaction.   They also discuss the power of sales intelligence tools to surface what prospects are talking about, writing about, or being interviewed on - making deep, high-impact research both accessible and efficient.   Topics include how to:   Use affordable AI agents for personality and communication style insights. Profile unknown stakeholders using LinkedIn Sales Navigator. Apply large language models to join the dots between your value prop and their unique needs. Tailor whitepapers and outreach messaging at an individual level. Know when deep research is a competitive advantage - and when it becomes table stakes.   Whether you're targeting a strategic account or prepping for your next call, this episode shows how to harness tech to understand people and context so your conversations land with more relevance and value.   Connect with Hanneke: linkedin.com/in/hannekevogels   Follow me: https://linktr.ee/fredcopestake   Take the  Collaborative Selling Scorecard https://collaborativeselling.scoreapp.com/

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Die Themen im heutigen Versicherungsfunk Update sind: 55 Millionen Euro pro Jahr für Skiunfälle Skifahren ist nach dem Fußball die verletzungsanfälligste Sportart. Jeder fünfte Unfall passiert auf Ski. Das geht aus aktuellen Zahlen des Gesamtverbandes der Deutschen Versicherungswirtschaft (GDV) hervor. Auf Fußball entfällt rund ein Drittel der gemeldeten Sportunfälle. Gemessen an den finanziellen Folgen sind Skiunfälle am schwerwiegendsten. „Ein einzelner Schaden beläuft sich im Schnitt auf 7.900 Euro“, sagt GDV-Hauptgeschäftsführer Jörg Asmussen. „Keine andere Sportart verursacht solch hohe Folgekosten.“ Insgesamt geben die privaten Unfallversicherer durchschnittlich 55 Millionen Euro pro Jahr für Skiunfälle aus. CGPA Europe verbessert Versicherungsbedingungen CGPA Europe erweitert prämienneutral die Bedingungen der Vermögensschaden-Haftpflichtversicherung „All Risk Michaelis Cover“. Neue Leistungen gelten automatisch für Bestandskunden und umfassen unter anderem Verbesserungen bei der bAV-Vermittlung, eine Vorversicherungs-Garantie für alle Erlaubnisbereiche sowie eine erweiterte Betriebshaftpflicht. Generationswechsel bei degenia/DMU Christoph Meese und Stefan Scheel haben ab dem 1. Januar 2025 die Prokura der degenia Versicherungsdienst AG übernommen und erweitern die Geschäftsführung der DMU. Die beiden Maklerbetreuer, seit 2015 im Unternehmen tätig, verantworten künftig die Bereiche Marketing, Vertrieb, Produktentwicklung und Personal. Deutsche legen Wert auf finanzielle Sicherheit Laut einer YouGov-Umfrage im Auftrag der Postbank legen 80 % der Deutschen regelmäßig Geld beiseite. Für 37 % der Sparer vermittelt Sparen ein gutes Gefühl, während 35 % es als notwendig erachten. Der Grundsatz „erst sparen, dann kaufen“ gilt für 77 % der Bundesbürger. Jüngere Deutsche sind hingegen flexibler: 24 % der 18- bis 24-Jährigen konsumieren auch mal vorab und sparen später. Geldvermögen der Deutschen erreicht erstmals über neun Billionen Euro Das Geldvermögen der Privathaushalte in Deutschland stieg im dritten Quartal 2024 laut Bundesbank erstmals auf über neun Billionen Euro. Mit einem Zuwachs von knapp 200 Milliarden Euro liegt das durchschnittliche Vermögen je Einwohner bei rund 108.000 Euro. Während zehn Prozent der Haushalte mehr als 70 Prozent des Vermögens besitzen, verfügt die Hälfte der Deutschen über keinerlei Rücklagen. Umschuldung spart über 1.300 Euro Ratenkredite sind laut Verivox so günstig wie seit anderthalb Jahren nicht mehr, mit Sparpotenzialen von über 1.300 Euro durch Umschuldung. Kreditnehmer mit hohen Zinssätzen können durch niedrigere Durchschnittszinsen von 6,45 Prozent ihre Kreditkosten erheblich senken. Selbst bei Vorfälligkeitsentschädigungen bleibt das Einsparpotenzial oft deutlich über 1.000 Euro.

Simon Sansome was born, raised and continues to live in England. He had what he considers a normal childhood except for the fact that he did have and has today dyslexia. As he describes it, reading even to day some forty-two years after he came on the scene, is extremely difficult for him. He does, however, write well. He will tell us about his growing up, going to a British college, then joining the workforce and eventually going to a university. Yes, college as he will tell us is different from university.   In 2014 he was struck with a slipped disc. Unfortunately, the chiropractor who then attempted to fix the problem only made matters much worse and Simon became paralyzed from the waist down. Simon determined to move forward and went back to the university where he graduated in 2018 with a degree in journalism.   Along the way Simon created a Facebook page and a community called “Snowball Community”. As the community evolved Simon and later others began posting information about accessible places first in England and then elsewhere as well. Today Snowball has received countless awards for all it is doing to promote accessibility and Simon tells us that they expect to have over a Million viewers on a regular basis. Snowball Community will soon be providing opportunities for restaurants, shops and other places to obtain in-person accessibility assessments and the ratings from those assessments will be available to promote the businesses that are evaluated.   Simon by any standard is unstoppable and inspiring. I trust that you will agree.       About the Guest:   Simon sustained a life changing injury when he was 32 which left him disabled from the waist down. It forced him to take early retirement and he decided to go to DMU to study Journalism and pursue his passion for writing.   In 2016, while at DMU, Simon set up a Facebook Snowball Community with the idea of raising awareness of, and improving, disabled access. His award-winning campaign has had a global impact and the page now reaches more than 20 million people a month.    Simon is also an award winning film/documentary producer after his life story was brought by Amazon Prime and his film ‘Access All Areas' won 16 international film awards including best film.    Simon is also founder of Snowball Community a global disability app where you can leave reviews on how accessible a place is. Which is available on Android and Apple devices. The app has had 40,000 reviews in 12 months making it the biggest disability app in the world helping thousands of people daily.    Simon has won a number of major awards he is widely considered to be one of the most influential disabled people in the UK.   He was named in the top ten of the most influential people in the UK 2023 and this yeas won the Digital and Tech award at the Disability Power 100 and won the prestigious Santander X national award and will represent the UK at the Santander Global awards 2024.   Ways to connect with Simon:   https://www.facebook.com/FreezeSnowball   https://twitter.com/FreezemySnowbal   https://www.instagram.com/freezesnowball?igsh=MTl5ZHMxb3FvdzV1dA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr   https://www.tiktok.com/@snowball.community?_t=8jKD9oRZmPw&_r=1       About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast   If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. You can also support our podcast through our tip jar https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/unstoppable-mindset .   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review   Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.       Transcription Notes:   Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Well, hi there. This is your host, Mike Hingson, and you are listening to unstoppable mindset where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. I love to say that every so often, but here we are once again, and now we are talking with Simon Sansome, who is over in England. So it is about 736 in the evening there, and it's 1136 where I am. So Simon, welcome to unstoppable mindset. Simon is a he's going to talk about snowball and I don't want to give that away. He also is a person with a disability. So again, welcome to unstoppable mindset. Thank you very much. It's   Simon Sansome ** 02:01 a pleasure to be here.   Michael Hingson ** 02:02 Now I am curious about something that just popped into my head. Do you all have daylight savings time over there that takes effect at some point? Yes, we   Simon Sansome ** 02:10 do. Yes.   Michael Hingson ** 02:12 When will that start?   Simon Sansome ** 02:13 No idea whatsoever. It just pops up on my iPhone and changes itself   02:17 these days. Yeah. Yeah. I   Simon Sansome ** 02:22 mean, best thing from working at home doesn't really affect me. Yeah, well, it's not like I lose an hour or gain an hour because I just stay in bed or get up, you know, get it when, when I need to. So, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 02:33 now I'm just really curious. I'm gonna look at my calendar. I think,   02:39 I think it's April.   Michael Hingson ** 02:40 Is it all the way to April? Yeah, with Okay, over there, it's April. Well, here Daylight Savings Time begins. Oops, I'm sorry. Daylight Saving Time begins next Sunday. So you can tell we're recording this in advance of when it's going to actually go up everyone but daylight savings time here in the US, begins on March 10 so time Time flies. However, when you're having fun, I guess   Simon Sansome ** 03:13 there is a rumor over here that Daylight Savings Time was actually created by Benjamin Franklin so we could play golf in Scotland. Is that what it was, apparently so, but obviously we've got nothing to verify that, but that's the rumor. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 03:26 yeah, but it didn't get implemented all that soon. But you know, on the other hand, um, Benjamin Franklin is also one of the main characters in the new James Potter series, the outgrowth of the Harry Potter books. Oh, I didn't know that, because he is the Chancellor of Alma alaran, which is the American or US School of magic. So he's been around a while. This guy, Franklin, he's done a lot of stuff. But anyway, nevertheless, welcome to unstoppable mindset, and we're really glad that you're here. Why don't you start by telling us kind of about the early Simon growing up and some of those things. Yeah,   Simon Sansome ** 04:06 of course, I grew up in a village called burst in Leicestershire, that for most people, nobody knows where Leicestershire is. Everyone thinks of Nottingham when they think of Les share because it's the cloak, because of Robin Hood. So Nottingham Sherwood Forest is about 40 miles north of Lacher. However, we have become more famous over the recent years. We won the premiership in 2016 in Leicester City, which went was was a fantastic thing for the city. And then Richard the Third interesting fact, it was found under my car parking space. Dickie three. I was working for social services at the time, and Dickie three under my car parking space. So that was fun, I know, but no grew up in a normal house, Mum, three sisters, went to school, was dyslexic, wasn't diagnosed. I did terribly at school, great at cricket, loved the sport, played a bit of rugby and. And, yeah, just, I suppose really, you know, I worked. I worked all the like, Saturday jobs, and worked in a fruit and veg shop from the age of 14 to 16, getting up at four, four o'clock in the morning, going to work for a few hours, then going to school, falling asleep at school before Yeah, and then going to close the shop up at night. And I did that for one pound 25 an hour, which was, you know, child slave labor, yeah? So really, your average childhood, nothing really exciting going on there.   Michael Hingson ** 05:33 So did you ever go to Sherwood Forest?   Simon Sansome ** 05:35 Many times it's a nice walk. Yeah, is it we go on a regular basis due to the fact that it's you can hire a they're called trampers over here. It's a big mobility scooter, and so you can go around Sherwood Forest in the mobility scooter. So we'll get there quite a lot, because it's a nice outing. What   Michael Hingson ** 05:52 kind of trees?   Simon Sansome ** 05:55 Big oak, okay, big ones, yeah, willows, oaks and lots more. You know, it's a forest.   Michael Hingson ** 06:02 How big is? How big is the forest?   Simon Sansome ** 06:04 Absolutely no idea whatsoever. It's big. It's a forest. Yeah, you know, it's a good few miles across, a few, good few miles wide. You're going to get lost in it, if you if there wasn't a path, yeah, yeah. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 06:19 and it's nice that after all these years and all the reputation that it has, and Robin Hood hiding in it and living there, and all that, that it really does still stand and people honor it, which is cool. Yeah,   Simon Sansome ** 06:31 I the best thing about Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, if you've seen it, he arrives in Dover on by sea, and then by night, he's walked to Nottingham, which is about 250 miles, he's fast,   Michael Hingson ** 06:47 and when you got to go after the sheriff, you know, you, you've got a mission, you got to do it,   Simon Sansome ** 06:51 yeah? So fat place Walker, him and him and Morgan Freeman,   Michael Hingson ** 06:57 well, my favorite movie is actually a slightly different one. It's called Robin in the seven hoods. Have you ever seen it is,   Simon Sansome ** 07:04 is that the, I don't know if, no, I'm thinking of Robin Hood, many types. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 07:09 Robin and the seven hoods, stars, well, the Rat Pack, basically. Okay, and so Bing, Crosby is no Frank Sinatra is Robbo. It takes place on the in Chicago during the gang times. So Frank Sinatra is Robbo. Dean Martin is John, or Little John. Bing Crosby was Friar, tuck and other people. Peter Falk was Guy Gisborne. Okay, you know, so they had all the characters. It was, it was really a cute movie. I've always loved to watch that movie. It's a lot of fun. So, and needless to say, it was a comedy and, and at the end, most everybody ends up behind, you know, in concrete. It in behind a wall, except for Friar Tuck who gets the girl? Fair enough. I think Robbo doesn't get walled up either, but it's a fun movie. But anyway, no Sherwood Forest. It's all on the south side of Chicago, okay. But anyway, so did you go to college? I   Simon Sansome ** 08:16 went to college and dropped out and then moved when? Because I just didn't get along college. Well, the thing is, because I had undiagnosed, I was undiagnosed dyslexic, yeah, in the like, you know, 80s and 90s, it wasn't really recognized as a thing, no. So I really couldn't really write until I was 1516, so I didn't go to what you would I went to a college. But the college isn't what colleges in America, or secondary rather than higher education. So we go, we go primary school, high school, college, university, okay? And so I went to, I went to Leicester college to did, what did I do there? It was film, I think, yeah, for about a year, dropped out and then got a job in Scotland, and moved Scotland just on a whim and became a training manager in a hotel. And the idea was, is I wasn't going to be rich, I but I thought, if I could be a waiter, if I can be a barman, if I can be the head of the departments in a hotel in the catering industry, then I've got a job for life. Yeah. So I've got a backup plan. So because once you've worked in a bar, in a restaurant, or you've been a chambermaid, which I've done, or kitchen shoe chef, or whatever, you know, you can pretty much walk into any job anywhere, and just, you know, you're always going to have a job if you need to, you can find things. Yeah, yes, absolutely. And that was the plan, because I didn't have an education behind   Michael Hingson ** 09:39 me. And then, and I'm amazed at the number of people, and I shouldn't be, because I understand the history who happened to have dyslexia or who were on, what we would say now is on the autism spectrum, who were never diagnosed. I've talked to a number of people here on on stop. Mindset who talked about the fact that they were autistic and didn't even know it until they were in their 30s or even 40s, and it was very freeing to figure it out, because they knew they were different, but they didn't understand what what was really going on with them, and then in the last 15 or 20 years, they finally got enough of a diagnosis, a lot of information. So they, oftentimes, they figured it out even before the medical profession did.   Simon Sansome ** 10:37 Yeah, same thing that happened with me. It was late diagnosis, yeah. So, so after Scotland, I moved back down to moving with my sister to help her out, because she had a child, and she was struggling. She was single mother. And so I got a job working at British Gas in Leicester, which is in the call center, and I got and after a painstaking working a nine to five job in a call center, thought, I don't want to do this for the rest of my life. Yeah. So I returned to education. And I returned to Loughborough College, which is up the road, and my then teacher, my sociology teacher, after handing in my first assignment as a mature student, she went, right, you're dyslexic, have an assessment. And that's when it really Yeah, and that's when it changed. That's when everything changed for me.   Michael Hingson ** 11:28 So what changed and why did it? Well, I can understand why, after the diagnosis,   Simon Sansome ** 11:33 I got the support I needed, that I didn't that I didn't realize myself, that I needed so kind of support, extra reading lessons, extra tuition, how to read and write, how to spell, very patient teachers, and a lot more encouragement as well from the college, which then helped me go on to university as well. So yeah, so   Michael Hingson ** 11:57 your your teachers helped you teach your brain to connect and be able to eventually really recognize, yes, so   Simon Sansome ** 12:07 I learned very visually. I can't really read. Can't really read very well. However, I'm an excellent writer, which is ironic. And I was writing everything and everything because I enjoyed writing so much. But I couldn't read software. I couldn't read out loud. And if I would read, sit there and reading your book, I would have, I call them brain farts, but their memory lapses or something, where you can read a whole page, or three or four pages of a book, and you can read it absolutely fine, but I've got no idea what's happened in those three pages, the information just doesn't   Michael Hingson ** 12:42 stay there. Yeah, the disconnect is still pretty strong. Yes, very much. So,   Simon Sansome ** 12:47 so I learn visually. So I was, I mean, back in the day, I was a huge film fan, and that explains the reason why. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 12:53 but, but you could write so you could, you could communicate. And whether, whether you, I assume, probably more often than not you, you wrote via a keyboard. Yep,   Simon Sansome ** 13:05 very much. So I also used the dragon talk back in the day, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 13:09 but you don't. How did you do with like, writing with a pen or a pencil? No, I Yeah, no, I can do that quite well. You can do that quite well as well. Yeah, yeah.   Simon Sansome ** 13:18 I kept my journal as well. I kept a diary, yeah, just because it helped me to write. So   Michael Hingson ** 13:24 do you still use Dragon? No,   Simon Sansome ** 13:27 no, God, no. It's atrocious. I don't I haven't used it for about 15 years, so I don't know where it is now. Oh   Michael Hingson ** 13:34 gosh, it it is incredibly much better than it used to be when it was dragon. Dictate. Now it's Dragon Naturally Speaking, I use it a lot, and when I discover it has mispronounced, I can read or not mispronounce, but misrecognized or misinterpreted, I can correct it, and it doesn't take much in the way of corrections. But Dragon is so much better than it used to be. Yes, I use Dragon Professional and and I do type a lot and compose a lot, but I also find when I'm doing something that takes a while to do because it's long, it's much better to use Dragon to do it.   Simon Sansome ** 14:18 Yes, No, I never really got along with Dragon. I used it, but a big fan of it. But however, the dictation on my Mac and my phone is absolutely perfect for me. We'll come to it shortly. But I'm a journalist as well now, and so I can write a story within 10 minutes, 500 or 1000 words within a few minutes. It's great, and   Michael Hingson ** 14:40 you would find that that Dragon has that same level of accuracy, because I think a lot of the algorithms went from Dragon to other technologies, or the other way around. But Dragon is really great today.   14:55 Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 14:56 so, you know, I can't, I can't complain a lot about Dragon. And it really does help a great deal. It's a whole lot cheaper than it used to be, but that's another story. You know, of course, the original Kurzweil Reading Machine for the blind that read print out loud by being able to look at a page and recognize the characters. The original Ray Kurzweil machine was $50,000 and now you get free OCR on an iPhone or an Android device or or very inexpensive anyway, and optical character recognition is a common place kind of thing anyway. So yes, lot different than it used to be. The world does progress and move forward. It certainly does so you did eventually go to university. What did you do there?   Simon Sansome ** 15:41 Yeah, so the first time I went to university. So I went twice, I did criminology. Oh, wow. Because I was enjoying writing so much, I thought I'd like to be a crime writer. What a waste of the time. If you want to learn about crime, you don't go and do you don't go and do criminology at university. So because it was so boring and so dull, I dropped out after the second year again. I mean, I was doing okay. I was getting about 50s, you know, so, two, two ish at university, but I really wasn't enjoying it, and I wasn't putting any effort into it. And so, yeah, I dropped out and looked for a job and went to work for the council. So   Michael Hingson ** 16:27 the council being so,   Simon Sansome ** 16:29 I worked for the local authority. Left City Council. Okay, yeah, the city council. Okay, great, okay, yes. So I,   Michael Hingson ** 16:36 I that was different. It was,   Simon Sansome ** 16:39 it was, it was very interesting, because I wasn't enjoying university, that was the thing, and so   Michael Hingson ** 16:46 and so you decided to leave criminology at the university and go look at the criminals of the council, right?   Simon Sansome ** 16:51 Pretty much. Yeah, I started off in housing. I worked as a housing assistant for a couple of years, working up there, and then, after a number of years getting a bit of experience under about doing some volunteering for youth services, um, I moved on to social services. And I was there till I left the council. And that was, that was an education. I did that for about eight years. And so, yeah, that and nothing prepares you for working for social services, going to see people intimate house you know, into their homes, their immediate environments, how people live, the poverty, the destruction, the drugs, the deaths you know, every you know, everyone's everyday life that you take for granted. And it certainly was an eye opening experience and a very worthwhile life education,   Michael Hingson ** 17:43 yeah, at the same Yeah, it is a great education at the same time, when you do it and you care, you are also hopefully able to help people and make a difference, even if it's with one life that   Simon Sansome ** 17:56 was the intention. So our specializing in adult mental health and physical disabilities by the time I left, and what you see every day is you try and get some positives from it, because you are saving lives and you're trying to make people safe, and that's your job. And at the end of the day, you get people who just don't care and just want to die and kill themselves. And yeah, it's people dying on you every day, especially if you come to the hospitals, that's interesting. I didn't I got transferred to one of the hospitals here in Leicestershire and but even before I had a case or went to see went to see a patient, to get them discharged from hospital, I had like, nine deaths on my table, wow. And so I got transferred back, just in case I thought I was killing people, even I hadn't seen anyone.   Michael Hingson ** 18:46 So did, do you think you ever really did make a positive difference to any of those people who were really losing hope, or who had lost hope? Were you? Were you able to help?   Simon Sansome ** 18:55 I mean, the thing is, is because you're the first point of call, so I was on effectively, emergency call outs. So you go and make sure that person is safe, you make sure they've got food, make sure they're okay, and then you pass it on to a long term team. So mine was the emergency intermediary department, like working with the police, ambulance service, firemen and so on and so forth. We would do joint visits. And so I really never got to see the long term effects. I was there to put the plan in place and then let a longer term, longer team, manage that person and the cash plan, or whatever was needed. So well,   Michael Hingson ** 19:31 it's a it is a process, no doubt. So when did, when did you leave the council? What year was that   Simon Sansome ** 19:39 that was? When was that that was 2015   Michael Hingson ** 19:42 Oh, okay, well, yeah. And then what did you go do? Because at some point after that, your life changed.   Simon Sansome ** 19:48 My life changed. So it actually changed while I was working for the council. Um, so I became disabled in 2014 um. So I we're not 100% sure how the injury happened. I'll explain. So I was doing Ruby training at Victoria Park during that week, and I we also had a ton of bark delivered to our driveway because our driveway needed doing. And so I have this I slipped a disc, and I don't know if it's from the or it's from playing with me that I don't know, or rugby training anyway, not from cricket, not from Cricket. No, I have played cricket for a while, since then I played it as   Michael Hingson ** 20:30 a lad. Cricket is very slow. Oh, cricket's amazing   Simon Sansome ** 20:34 you. It's more technical than baseball. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 20:37 I know. I understand. I When I visited New Zealand and listened to some cricket on the radio, and it was really hard to follow because it it generally does move pretty slow, so I know it's very technical, and I never really caught on to the rules. I did figure out rugby a lot more than than I was able to figure out rugby   Simon Sansome ** 20:58 is 80 minutes. I mean, cricket lasts for five days. It's beautiful. Yeah, I   Michael Hingson ** 21:02 understand, but you have to take the time to really learn the rules. And I didn't have enough time to really listen to the radio, I guess   Simon Sansome ** 21:11 that's right. Anyway, yeah, so I had a slip disc. I've had a slip disc before, and normally I would take some ibuprofen, do my exercises, try and pop it back in. On this occasion, me and Kate, my new wife, we were going away on a honeymoon to Mexico, and so I went to see a chiropractor in the local area. And it was doing well, you know, I was getting better. I was exercising. What I was walking further. It was had I took a few weeks off work because it was really very uncomfortable, and couldn't really visit people in their homes when I'm really uncomfortable. However, on the fifth or sixth visit, this newly trained chiropractor decided she was going to have a go at putting the disc back in for my honeymoon, and she crushed levels three, four and five of my spine while doing that, and that hurt. I screamed. I didn't know what she did. I thought she slipped. I thought she she could. She warned me it was going to hurt, yeah, and it did. It really did okay. And I after I couldn't get my shoes on, so she was on. So she helped me get my shoes on, and effectively, she just threw me out after I screamed. I think she knew something that had gone wrong. I didn't know at the time. I just thought she put my disc back in because I was in so much pain. I collapsed outside where Kate was waiting for me in the car. And I went home and said, Look, I'm just going to go to bed. I'll sleep it off. And the following morning, I woke up, I thought I had a stroke because I had no sensation from the waist down. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 22:50 yeah. My wife was a t3 para, so it was basically from the bottom of the breast down. But I understand exactly what you're saying,   Simon Sansome ** 22:59 yeah. So it was a very unusual situation. I didn't know what to do. Kate had gone to work that morning. We lived in a cul de sac, a dead end road for you and me.   Michael Hingson ** 23:10 Nope, no cul de sacs. Very well, that's okay,   Simon Sansome ** 23:14 okay, that's fine. I wasn't too sure on the terminology for the American audience.   Michael Hingson ** 23:18 It's it's a term over here, too cool,   Simon Sansome ** 23:21 excellent. And so I was shouting for assistance. There's nobody there. I didn't have my phone on me. Phone was downstairs, and so I threw myself out of bed, did an army crawl, threw myself down the stairs, but naked, and I don't really remember a lot after that. I don't mean apparently my mom came round. Apparently, the ambulance came round. But I you know, but I don't remember a lot what happened. I really don't. What I know is, when I was taken to hospital, I had an MRI. Don't remember the MRI at all. Obviously, I'm under painkillers at this time, and there's a lot going on, and I'm in shock because I'm paralyzed from the waist down. And yeah, they they did an MRI. The emergency doctor said it was cordial. Quite a syndrome. Cordiaquinas syndrome is fully recoverable if you get an operation within 2448 hours. However, for whatever reason, and we still don't know the answer to this, the consultant overall, the A and E doctor, and said, It's not cordial Corona syndrome, and they put me on the ward for three months not knowing what to do with me, because they didn't know what was wrong with me. And by the time the by that time, the damage had been doing. Needed to do it within a 48 hour window to stop any permanent damage. But no, they left me there, and I was unfortunately left there to rot for three months. The damage had been done, and then I was paralyzed from the waist down for forever. I still, you know, I'm a wheelchair, full time wheelchair user. Now I. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 25:00 yeah. By then it was irreversible and there was nothing you could do. Yeah,   Simon Sansome ** 25:04 very much. So,   Michael Hingson ** 25:06 so as a paraplegics, can you? Can you now? Well, I've summoned that. You then went through some sort of physical therapy and strengthening and so on. Yeah,   Simon Sansome ** 25:17 absolutely. So I went through physio for a while. I mean, some of it has come back. Some of it did come back for a while. They said you probably going to get better for a while, but then it's going to deteriorate again. So the point where the first, after a year, I could walk, you know, 200 meters, maybe, with a walking stick and a frame. So I was getting out, you know, I could walk slightly. I could, you know, so that wasn't too bad, okay, however, then I got a drop foot, so that went so I couldn't really walk anywhere, because I got no balance. And then the other Association went to my legs, so I got to a point where I could walk slightly, a little, and then it started disappearing over the years. It's been 10 years now. So now I've while I've got about, in my right leg, I'd say about, ooh, 10% sensation. But my drop foot, there's nothing at all. Can't feel it, so you can drop it off, I wouldn't notice. And in my left leg, I've probably got about 10% usage. So I can move my legs, I just can't feel anything, and then my bowels and bladder have gone as well. So I've got a self catchpherized and stuff as well.   Michael Hingson ** 26:25 Yeah, which? Which my wife always had to do. She was born with scar tissue on her spinal cord, so she's always been that way. We always been apparent. So obviously huge difference in your lifestyle going forward. And how did you cope with all that? What did you do? What did you decide to do? Because you strike me as a person who isn't going to let a lot row of grass grow under your feet, as it were. Well, I   Simon Sansome ** 26:55 mean, we didn't know. Wow, this is the thing. We were stuck because I couldn't work, okay? And work made me take ill health retirement. They didn't want me back at work. Even though I didn't want to do that, I was forced to take ill health retirement at 32 we me and Kate. This is where me and Kate were very sensible. Is because Kate was earning a good wage, I was earning a good wage, and we brought the house. That was in case any of any of us lost our jobs, we could still afford the mortgage and the bills. Okay, wouldn't leave us with a lot of money, but we could just, we wouldn't lose the house, right? So if we, if we brought a huge because we had a nice three bed, semi detached, it was a really nice house, but it we could have Afford a House shovel the size, but if we did that, we'd be really stretching ourselves. So because we were sensible. That gave me the option to go and we needed to cover the mortgage effectively, because the bills were the bills and the mortgage were effectively case wage, and so we didn't have really any money to live on. You know, we're talking about 2030, pound a week after all, the bills will come out and the mortgage. So I decided that I was going to return to university to retrain, um, after pretty much the day afterwards. Uh, let's let city council told me how to take ill health retirement, and I applied to university to check do a journalism because I enjoyed   Michael Hingson ** 28:14 writing. Did the health retirement then give you some income,   Simon Sansome ** 28:18 very little. It was 134 pound a month. And it still is about, I think it's going to be up to inflation, like 150 pound a month. I get it after life, not much. Yeah, absolutely. Because, you know, I was 32 there's no money in the park for the ill health retirement, yeah. But what would happen is, is it would give us time to sort things out, and the student loan would cover any food bills, or, you know, anything we needed for that for three years. So it gives us a little leeway. So it gives us a little bit of an income. It takes the pressure off Kate and so I returned to university to train as a journalist, and that's again where everything starts to change again. So,   Michael Hingson ** 29:04 but you could write, so there you go, yeah,   Simon Sansome ** 29:07 um, couldn't spell. It still can't spell, but I could tell a story, yeah, so I can get it checked by Kate or my mom or whoever. So, yeah, it's, it was interesting. So yeah, I got accepted. And I was twice the age of everyone else there, which was a little bit embarrassing, but I didn't really care. I was more mates with I'm still in contact with them. Actually, I'm still, and this is like 2000 what, 15 until 18 I graduated. Yeah, I'm still in contact on Facebook and stuff with all my lecturers, not the people I went to university with, because, yeah, but all lecturers I'm still in contact with.   Michael Hingson ** 29:46 So, you know, I want to come back and continue the story, but now I'm a little bit curious. Given the way things work over here, a lot of times, somebody clearly made them a. Stake in terms of dealing with your diagnosis and so on. Did you ever think about any kind of litigation or going after them legally and looking for funds that way, or anything like that?   Simon Sansome ** 30:11 We had to. Never sued anyone in my life. Never wanted to. Yeah, but we're getting to the point where I you know, wheelchairs are expensive. Equipment's getting expensive. Mobility scooters are expensive. We need an adapted vehicle, brooches, medication. We need carers. We need, you know, personal help with personal care, adding confidence power, which was really expensive, and so we didn't realize at the time how expensive having a disability was. So we got to the point where we had to take legal action. And we saw a lawyer, we got recommended one, and after five years, they settled. They didn't go, he didn't go to court. And so that was put in a trust for my protection. Yeah, yeah, because I am going to deteriorate later in life, and the cost of that is going to be extortionate, so that is well protected. So yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 31:16 yeah, it's unfortunate you have to do that sometimes my involvement in litigation was that I was thrown off of an airplane because of my guide dog, and we, we sued, we eventually settled years ago. Was back in the early 1980s it's an education to go through the process, and it did go to court. There was eventually a settlement. But it was even really hard to get a good jury, because some of the original people who were potential jurors worked for airlines, or new people who worked for airlines, and so they said they'd be prejudiced, and it didn't matter that a blind person with a guide dog was ejected from an airplane simply because of the dog. Yeah, of course, today that that couldn't happen, well, it could happen, but it would. It can. He   Simon Sansome ** 32:10 still does. It does. It   Michael Hingson ** 32:11 does and but the laws are, are more substantive, but even so, it lawsuits are, are really not an easy thing at all, and there's a lot of emotion that goes into it, and there's a lot that one has to decide they want to put up with. And you don't really know a lot about that until you're in the middle of it, unless somebody really sits you down and describes this is what's going to happen. I had a little bit of that, but I know how difficult it is to do people have told me I should sue the hospital that put me in an incubator when I was born prematurely, simply because that could cause blindness. And other people have actually sued successfully 20 and 30 years after they were born, they litigated, and I just felt, look, medical science had already started to be told that a pure oxygen environment could lead to what at that time was called retrolateral fibroplasia, which is now retinopathy or prematurity. But I think 2030, and 40 years later, suing doesn't accomplish anything and and so my parents and I talked about it a lot, and we all agreed that that doesn't make any sense to do, and we didn't, and I have no regrets about that, but your situation is significantly different than that. Yeah,   Simon Sansome ** 33:44 we had to move house. We had to double our mortgage. We couldn't stay in the house we were in at the time. And yeah, it was, it was a painful experience. So yeah, we needed, we needed an adaptive property at the end of the day, and we simply couldn't afford one. So you found   Michael Hingson ** 34:03 one, or did you build one? Or so   Simon Sansome ** 34:07 we couldn't find one. We actually brought one off plan, but we had to double our mortgage to do it. Yeah, that was interesting. So that wasn't pleasant, pleasurable at all, but we managed it. So   Michael Hingson ** 34:20 we had instances where we built a house from scratch. First one was a manufactured home, and then we we moved to New Jersey in 1996 and we built a house there because we couldn't find a house that we could relatively easily modify. And if you modify a home, the cost is so expensive because you've got to redo doors, you've got to redo counters, you've got to redo a lot of things. That's assuming you can find one that doesn't have too many stairs for a person in a chair, and that you can can ramp those but. If you build a home, there's really no additional cost other than the cost that we had in New Jersey, because it was in an area where they only had two story homes, so we did have to put an elevator in. So that was an additional cost, but that was the only additional cost, because, as you're pointing out, everything else was on plan and you you design it in, there's no additional cost for building lower counters if you're doing it from the outset. So we did that. But then when we moved to we moved back to California, we couldn't find a place to build, and so then we did have to modify a home and it and the problem is that you can't really put it in the mortgage, and it's a little different today than it was when we moved back out here in 2002 but we couldn't put it in the mortgage, so it was $150,000 that we had to find. And eventually it it worked out as you, as you pointed out with like with you. Then we moved here to Southern California. We built this home, and I am, I'm very glad that we did. It's, it's a great house.   Simon Sansome ** 36:05 Yeah, we've got a lovely home now. It's fully adapted. It's great, you know, it's large. I can get around quite easily. So it's a it's very nice,   Michael Hingson ** 36:14 all one floor,   Simon Sansome ** 36:17 all one floor. Yeah, it's extremely long.   Michael Hingson ** 36:19 There you go. Well, so you went back to university and and clearly that was a major commitment and dedication on your part to decide to do that, but you didn't. What was the university like? How accessible was the university?   Simon Sansome ** 36:36 Oh, it wasn't accessible at all for me. So I had a manual hospital, manual wheelchair. At the time, I couldn't push myself around because of my spinal damage and the spinal damage that I've got. I can't really push myself well in a manual wheelchair, right? And we didn't have any money for a scooter, so the first year, I was really struggling because we didn't know what services we didn't know what services we could access. We didn't know what was available. I'm newly disabled. I'm new to this world, even my work for social services, and until you're sitting in the chair, what you know about the world is absolutely nothing. And so it wasn't until I came across Disability Services at the University who helped me apply for a grant with the snow interest in the UK, and they provided me with an electric scooter. Well, that was brilliant. I mean, oh my god, yeah, it's like I found freedom. Because obviously, you know, so my university is called, my university is called Democrat University. And although it's not on a hill by any means whatsoever. There is a slope going all the way down to the main campus. And it's quite, it's quite a long road, but the slope is very subtle school it helps, yeah, but if you're pushing yourself in a manual wheelchair up that slope, by the time you get to the main road, you're absolutely exhausted. You just can't push yourself anymore. Yeah, and it's about, it's about a quarter mile along the whole campus. And so, yeah, I was pushing myself backwards with my foot on the floor up the hill to get the classes and stuff. And I just said, This is ridiculous. This can't carry on. And so I spoke to Disability Services, and they helped me out. So,   Michael Hingson ** 38:16 so what did you do once you So you went to the university, you you did that, and you were committed to making it happen and and there, there had to be times that they would have been tempting to give up, but you didn't. No,   Simon Sansome ** 38:30 I wasn't really tempted to get up. I mean, I have side effects from my corticoana syndrome. I have, like, seizures in the legs, which can happen anytime, and that causes that knocked me out for a few days. Yeah, so I did get a few medical exemptions here or there, but, you know, the the lecturers were more than happy knowing that I was capable of doing the work, yeah, which is cool. Yes, very much so. But I did have to have a couple of exemptions here or there, but nothing major. But while I was at university, that's when I set up the Facebook page, which is now known as snowball community, and that's what brings us to it. So, right, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 39:05 so tell us all about snowball and yeah, and everybody should know that I teased at the very beginning. I said, Well, now isn't it time that we should remember that snowball was the name of the pig in Animal Farm. And Simon's not read Animal Farm, so I   Simon Sansome ** 39:24 got red Animal Farm can't read, sorry.   Michael Hingson ** 39:27 Well, go listen to it. Then, you know, it's not that long on the book. It's not that long.   Simon Sansome ** 39:33 No. So when, when, after a year of recovery, when I was going to university, so I went. So we were going out for a meal. It was the first meal me and my wife went out following the injury, okay? And there's a really nice place in Leicester, Spanish tapas, and it was the first time out in the wheelchair for a meal, and we couldn't get in. Okay? We called up and the wheelchair wouldn't go through the door. There was a step. At the front. And they're like, can you step over? That went, No, not really. But what happened was, as well, they put a table in front of the disabled entrance as well. Oh, that was good. Yeah, they had a ramp that went into the road, so that was interesting. And then the disabled toilet was upstairs, and so it was an emitted, a mitigated disaster. It really was atrocious. And this, and we didn't know this, we know I've never paid attention to say what access, you know, it just something we'd never, you know, I've never really been in a wheelchair before, so why? Why would I, yeah, yeah, and only if   Michael Hingson ** 40:42 you took an interest, but most people wouldn't think of that, yeah, yeah, exactly understandable. So   Simon Sansome ** 40:48 yeah, we just thought, you know, what else can we not get into? And it turns out quite a lot. And so a couple of days later, I decided to set up a Facebook page. It was called Ability access. Back then. It's now, of course, now being rebranded snowball community. And you know, all it was, it wasn't anything special. It was a very simple Facebook page, and it was to raise awareness of disabled access in the Leicester area. That's all I wanted to do. I didn't want awards. I didn't want recognition. I didn't want any of that. But however, within like, I think it kind of triggered something in people. It's not mold. It snowballed. Yeah, exactly. And I'm not too sure why or how, but I started putting a post of pictures of things, of places I couldn't get into, and videos, and, you know, me being angry, and so on and so forth. And, you know, within a like, within a month, I had 1000 followers. You know, they went to 2005 1000. And just kept on growing and growing and growing. Then we got nominated for many the page got nominated for awards. He started winning awards. And that's when I, at the time, I decided I was going to create something, if I could, called snowball community, which was an app. I had the idea of a disability app, but I'll come to that in a second. And yeah, it just, it just would not stop growing at the moment, I think it's about 110,000 followers on social media, and in 2019 it became the most read disability page in the world because people sharing videos, people sharing stories. You know, we were reaching an audience of over 30 million people a month. At one point, it just got absolutely crazy. And I just mean, I couldn't carry on doing that. I mean that took a lot of time, that took a lot of effort. And we just said, Look, we can do something with this. We can use the audience we've got. We've got an audience who follows it on a regular basis, who comments on a regular basis. And I said to Kate, we could do something really special here. And so I just Yeah. Once I graduated in 2018 I graduated from university with, again, a two one with honors in journalism, and I was working as a freelance journalist as well, which is great. It's because I could work whenever I like, but really, ability access would now snowball, just started to take over my life on the social media pages. And I said, Look, we could design an app here and create an accessibility app, and it took years of design to try and get it right. It really did. We took, we took, we did consultations, but also we couldn't afford it at the time either. We had to raise money for it as well. That's quite hard. And so, no, it's at the moment. Snowball was launched last year, and we are looking to get 100 that it's won national awards. It's one we came back from Barcelona last week. Okay? It won funding at a global award ceremony. And it's really snowballing. It's, we're expecting 100,000 reviews on the app this year.   Michael Hingson ** 44:04 So do you? So have you created an actual nonprofit organization out of it, like snowball.org or anything like that?   Simon Sansome ** 44:15 No, I really wanted to. I wanted it to be a charity organization. Yeah. And the reason I wanted it to be a charity organization, because I had assistance from a charity organization in the UK while at university, however, um, here in the UK, there are very strict rules and regulations on what you can spend the money on if you're a charity. And I wanted to set up a fund to help students who have disabilities at university, so I can do that. But also, I wanted to give 10% of the profits to local businesses who can't afford to do their own adaptations. We're talking small businesses, coffee shops, you know, local cafes, bakers and butchers and so on and so forth, fruit and veg shops who simply haven't got the 1015 grand what's required to make their stores excess. Possible. So I still, I'm still ever have every intention of doing that, but I couldn't do that as a charity organization. The rules and regulations wouldn't allow me to spend the money where I wanted to and where I thought thought, see if it where it's needed to do so for the communities across the UK. So I actually set it up as a limited company with the intention of probably 10% of the profit aside for local businesses to apply for grants when we start making money.   Michael Hingson ** 45:30 Yeah, well, but that is, I would still say that is exciting. You're, you're, you're channeling all of that, and hopefully you'll be able to do some major things to to help raise a lot of awareness. So what other kinds of things do you do to help raise awareness about disabilities and so on?   Simon Sansome ** 45:50 Yeah, so we're launching a number of profiles, at the moment, a number of things. So what we're doing is, I'm sure you have it in America as well with you, probably for your restaurants and pubs and everything you have, something similar to a food safety hygiene certificate. Yes, I'm not too sure what you call it. Over there, we have a certain similar thing here. It's a rating from one to five, okay? And we're launching something called the snowball membership scheme, and we're taking our 70 staff over the next few months to cover the whole of the UK. And what we're going to be doing is we're launching a scheme where businesses, whether it's Frankie and Benny subway McDonald's, can sign up to the system where we will go out and basically view a disability consultation for 250 quid and give you a full breakdown of what you can improve on your business, but also gives you an access rating that you can promote on social media and say, Look, come to our business. We are disabled friendly, yeah. But what that does is that creates a huge opportunity for businesses and the snowball app, because we are creating the biggest disability app in the world, and it tells you where you can it tells you where you can access, where you can go, okay, where you can eat, where you can shop, but also, more importantly, where you can spend your own money. And I was doing some research earlier today, before this interview. And according to one, I think the valuable 500 is the disabled community in America has $8 trillion of disposable income right to spend on things like restaurants and cinema tickets and so on and so forth, to cafes and, you know, clubs and shops and whatever, per year. So $8 trillion is going unspent because the disabled community in America, which is 60,000,060 1 million, I believe, don't know where to spend their money.   Michael Hingson ** 47:48 Well, when you think about the fact that it's the largest minority worldwide, you hear anything from 20 to 25% of all persons have some sort of disability. The The only, the biggest challenge that I see is the problem is that the disabilities aren't uniform. That is, it isn't the same. The needs that that you have, to a degree, are different than the needs that I have. The bottom line, however, is that even if you deal with it in that term that everyone has different kinds of disabilities. The fact of the matter is, it's still awareness. And while you need physical access to get into a restaurant, I need access to be able to to know what's on the menu and know what it's going to cost. And you don't have as much of a need for that, as I do, because you can lift a menu and read it in theory, but the fact is that we all have different challenges, and as I've said a couple of times on this podcast, we need to really redefine disability. First of all, disability doesn't mean a lack of ability at all. This isn't really the issue, because we do have terms like disciple, discrete, you know, they're not all negatives and and so disability is is really something different than what people have made it into. Disability is a characteristic that everyone has, and it manifests itself differently. I love to say that that the reality is, for most people, your disability is that you're light dependent, because most people don't do well in the dark, and they and Thomas Edison fixed it by inventing the light bulb, but it still is a disability, even if it's covered up, because most of the time you have light disability is a characteristic that everybody manifests. It's just that we do it in different ways.   Simon Sansome ** 49:44 No, I completely agree. I'm hoping that the system that I've created will address that. So, because what we've done as well is not, it's not just the question of, oh, we're going out there and is disabled friendly, is wheelchair accessible? We're doing. Know, full disability consultation on the business. So, do they have Braille menus? Do they have a change in place facility? You know, is there a lift? Is there Braille on the lift, that kind of thing, and so. And we're also introducing something called the stimulation rating as well. And this is touch, touch, taste, sight, see and spell. And this is to give you an indication of what those things are at that place for people with visual impairments, for mental health issues and learning disabilities. Because, for example, if you go to the British Library, very quiet, you know it's going to be quiet. Okay. If you go to the Natural History Museum in London, well, some days it's really nice and peaceful on other days, because you've got 10 school 10 coaches of school children, absolutely chaotic. Okay, so it does vary considerably. And the whole idea is, is, while it's not a perfect rating system, because, like you said, there are so many different types of disability, not every disability is the same. Yours is different to mine. We're trying to incorporate a holistic approach to making sure that people feel comfortable going there, because they can relate to something that's on the assessment, and they can see what's there, so they get the full report, and therefore they can have an individual, independent, independent, independent decision on whether that place is suitable for them. So it's not a perfect system where it can be changed quite easily through feedback. It can be improved through feedback. It's like a moving model at the moment. It's like 16 pages long the assessment. But hopefully it will with the feedback we're getting and how it will grow. It will hopefully evolve into something absolutely fantastic for everyone to be inclusive everywhere.   Michael Hingson ** 51:42 Well, and that's a cool thing, clearly, to do. One of the things that I know well is that you and I were introduced by Sheldon Lewis at accessibe. Sheldon is in the nonprofit part of accessibe in helping to find places that need Internet access and who are nonprofits, especially in the disability world, and helps provide accessibe for that. And I don't know whether you all are doing much yet with accessibe, but clearly it's a great place to get involvement in the whole issue of internet website access is is a horrible thing. I mean, we have so many websites being created every minute, and the reality is that none of the major internet website building companies, including Microsoft and Google, do nothing to insist that for website is being built, it has to be accessible right from the outset. So, you know, accessibe is a great, inexpensive way to help with all that, and I'm assuming that Sheldon and you are working on that somewhat.   Simon Sansome ** 52:54 Yes, we are. We've had a discussion, and unfortunately, accessibe isn't available on apps at the moment, but that is something they're working on, and you introduce it soon. So I'm, I think once it's available on the apps, I will after, course,   Michael Hingson ** 53:07 but it is, however, the reality is that restaurants and other places do create websites, and people go to websites, and so that's, that's right now, the place where accessibe can make a significant difference.   Simon Sansome ** 53:22 Absolutely, I completely agree they should have it on there. Yeah. So   Michael Hingson ** 53:26 that is, that is a that is certainly one place where, you know, we can help. And certainly every restaurant should have an accessible website and and if they're going to have menus on the website, then there are certainly guidelines on ways to make those accessible, and that is part of what needs to be done.   Simon Sansome ** 53:46 Yes, and I completely agree with you. I support it, of course,   Michael Hingson ** 53:50 yeah. And you're right, apps, apps today, that's a different process. It's a different animal, but it will come, and that'll be something that that we'll be able to see. But in the short term,   Simon Sansome ** 54:02 yeah, I've told Sheldon, straight away, we'll get it on there straight away, as soon as soon as they've done the development for the apps, for access to be   Michael Hingson ** 54:09 Yeah, but right now, well, okay, but right now for your app, it could be accessible. You just build it that way, but it's not the app. But every restaurant should have an accessible website, and that really ought to be part of what you look at when you're going to a restaurant, to explore what and how accessible they are. Having accessible and inclusive websites is certainly something that is very straightforward to do today. Yes,   Simon Sansome ** 54:38 it is, but businesses are lazy   Michael Hingson ** 54:42 well, but you know, they also that they are, but they also think that it's more expensive than it needs to be, and that's part of the whole issue. I mean, if you go to a restaurant and it's not accessible because you can't get into it, so they're still lazy. They didn't make it. Accessible right from the outset, and either they're going to where they're not, and it's a lot No no, no offense in any way intended, but it's a lot less expensive to make a website accessible than it is to modify an entrance so that you can get in with a wheelchair when there are steps or a very narrow door. Yeah. So it is yeah, laziness goes always Yeah. And   Simon Sansome ** 55:23 hopefully, if they do have initiatives that hopefully snowball, can help me out with that, with the credit that we want to provide to small businesses, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 55:30 yeah. And I understand that most businesses are pretty small and don't necessarily have a lot of money to spend, but with websites, that's where accessibe can make a big difference right from the outset? Yeah, absolutely, which is pretty cool. Yes. So what's, what's next as you go forward with snowball What are, what's the future going to hold?   Simon Sansome ** 55:52 Oh, my God, right. So, I mean, we're having a huge expansion, as I said, we're taking on about 70 staff to cover the whole of the UK. We're actually looking to franchise it as well across North America and Europe. We've also asked to be consultants for a number of governments as well. So it's going from strength to strength to strength. Every week, we keep on getting inquiries. We've got customers signed up already for the assessments, for the membership schemes. Loads in London. London's really taking off quite nicely. So it's where we're going at the moment is, I don't know, but in a couple of years time, I think we're going to be a major player in the app world for accessibility, because we already are the most that we are the biggest disability app in the world at the moment. Mm, hmm. By a long, long way, by, you know, 10s of 1000s of reviews. So nobody's really going to catch up with snowball, but we still need people to use it on a regular basis. That's the thing, because all the information we get is usually generated. Okay, in the UK, we're doing really well. In America, we need a bit more help. Yeah, but, you know, I was having a I was doing another podcast a couple of weeks ago in America, and there's a chap who wants to give us 10,000 locations of petrol stations across America where they went, because he doesn't know where to post it. All this information on accessible fueling stations across America, where they'll come out and help you to fill yes and you to fill your yes and stuff, and do help to pay for it. And he's just got no idea where to post it. So parallel, we think he's going to get we will win early stages of talks, and he wants to give us that information to help people to travel across America, and so they know where they can go and get their car filled up with assistance. So it's just we need people like that to leave reviews, to add places to use it on a regular basis, even if you go, even if you spot a car, you know, disabled car parking bay, you can have that. If you find an accessible toilet, add the accessible toilet. If you find an accessible restaurant, add the restaurant. Even if you find an inaccessible restaurant, add the inaccessible restaurant, because it will stop people going there and being disappointed. So all that information is extremely relevant to help people to be live a more independent life. So we need as many people across the world, including America, to download to to add reviews like you would on TripAdvisor. Is TripAdvisor for the disabled community. We just need more reviews and more people to use on a regular basis, and it will grow considerably. And therefore, once that's grown, we can start helping people more with like booking cinema tickets, booking airline travel holidays, and expand it that way as well. Because once businesses know that you're booking it through snowball, then they know you need extra assistance. So Sheldon,   Michael Hingson ** 58:43 has Sheldon talked to you about access find? Uh, no, okay, access is again, right now, it's website oriented, but access find is a database that accessibe created of accessible websites, and any website can say, you know, we have, we have made our website accessible, and it's checked, but then, when it is, then they are included in access, find. And it might be interesting to explore that, both in terms of websites, but finding ways to expand it. So we can, we can explore that and talk about that one. So what? What motivates you? I mean, you're doing a lot. Why?   Simon Sansome ** 59:28 It's the frustration of not being able to so, I mean, yes, remember, I for 32 years, I was fully independent. I could go anywhere in the world. I wanted to Okay, and it's the frustration that the world is not I'm not going to say it's not welcoming, because it's not that's not quite right. I'm going to say uneducated. And the ignorance of that everyone can access everything after having an injury like mine is very small mindedness, and I get. Frustrated that, because I travel a lot for work. I travel all over the world, and when we turn up to places, you know, we haven't got the right room, we can't access the hotel, we can't access the restaurant. It's got to the point where we don't choose where we want to go the place chooses us, yeah, and I don't, I don't think that's fair, no. And so I just want an equal opportunity world. That's what I don't like being turned away from places where we want to go for a family meal. I don't like being turned away from the cinema because the disabled seats so close to the screen. You know, it's, you know, it's just It frustrates me. And that's what, you know. I think that's what keeps up, keeping me going, but also as well, is when I was in hospital, because I got told I would never sit up again. I got told I was going to be on my back for life. Okay? And I'm very fortunate where I am. I mean, I know that sounds really stupid, because I'm paralyzed from the waist down, but I am very fortunate where I am, and I see, especially from a social services point of view, there are so many more people worse off than I am okay, and I just want to help them as much as I can. I want to give them choice. I want to give them a bit of independence. I want them to have that freedom of not being restricted to, you know, five, five places to go and eat, or, you know, the only place you can go to the cinema. I want you to the only tourist attraction you can visit. I want them to be fully inclusive. I want them to have a good life, you know. And I think snowball can help a lot of people do that.   Michael Hingson ** 1:01:40 Well, that's cool. So if people want to learn more about Snowball or access the app and so on, how do they do that? And how do they reach out to you? Yeah,   Simon Sansome ** 1:01:50 I'm on LinkedIn. Simon Samson, just send me a message. That's not a problem at all. Spell, if you would please. Yeah, S A N for November, s o m for mother, E for Echo,   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:03 and first name Simon, s, i, m, o n,   Simon Sansome ** 1:02:05 that's correct. You can also, you can also email us at support at snowball dot community,

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We remember 9/11 for a second, along with a brand new single by Toronto's The Slime and our house band, Portland's Carny Cumm! More Outlandishness from Inland Empire's Saddam Bin Laden, and a bunch of new ones we've been waiting to play. Thanks for your support! Hit us up at brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com and download our music on our Bandcamp page... including the new Crickets EP.474 Playlist:Punk walk...Toronto Crab Walk 1:43 The Slime 2024 Bandcamp Single Indonesia Raw Noise Ungovernable 0:50 Svälter Arsenal of Mindfuck Portland CRYPT CREEP 0:43 SOCIETY'S SICKOS 4 TRACK DEMO Portland Sent Bone 0:52 Carny Cumm 2024 Bandcamp Single Land of the Nobodies (bkgrd) 3:13 Rocketsled Absolute Zero USA BOMBS 1:29  Saddam Bin Laden  2024 Single Gouden Regel 0:49 Seein'Red Seein'Red-No Way split UK Neurotic Hate Fiends 1:51 War Corpse Life After Work? Newfoundland SNITFIT 1:32 snitfit Snitfit - Demo  Painters Tapes MI Low Art 1:27 H8 Mile Spread the Love Falsos Positivos - Kill, fascist, kill! 1:39 Nothing to Harvest Records ΝΤΗ052. Falsos Positivos/false(-)negative -  Split UK Fairtrade Death 1:47 PARLIAMENT RUINS Piss Take  FRUSTRACIÓN 1:18 FERVOR MORTAL E.C. #032 - DEMO  AU Jackhammer 1:32 Exit Mould EP Krak Down (bkgrd) 3:22 Gwar This Toilet Earth HARDHEAD 1:28 CONFUSION'S PRINCE DMU-019: CONFUSION'S PRINCE - S/T AGNOSTIC FRONT 0:37 Who's To Blame DMU-017: WHO'S TO BLAME - DEMO Ghostspace Recs TX Time To Spare 2:23 Temporary Curse BEEP THRASH Knuckles On Stun TN Big Bopper - My Movie 2:08 Various Artists Delinquents & Shitbags Shit Bots - Wild Man 1:35 Various Artists Delinquents & Shitbags Let's Get Ripped 1:22 Meatwagon Arrival Mucky Pup 1:42 The Exploited Punks not dead I Drew This Skinhead for You 1:10 Close Combat 2019 Earth Brains 1:07 Ancient Filth Earth Brains Flexi Don't Need You 0:53 BGP One Small Step For Punk... Talk is Poison (bkgrd) 3:04 POR097 Sonic Warhead - Bleed Runner EP Fear Power Control 1:03 Payload of Atomic Warhead Nightmares Summer 2014 Tape Satan Is Good But You're Asshole 1:40 童子 (Dohji) Forced Climax EP Put Me Down 1:14 Tokyo Lungs ST EP I Hate People 0:33 Distemper Distempter Berlin Hunter Of The Universe 1:05 Overthrow Overthrow EP Tape  Pitts Stop the Lies 0:43 Real Enemy Life With The Enemy SLO Under the Knife (EP) 1:39 Half Life All Our Yesterdays Get Bent 0:44 Cross-Contamination Epistaxis - DEMO No Good 1:51 The Afterdarks Rock N' Roll is Dead TN Nobody Told Me It Was Bandcamp Friday 0:52 Vista Blue Vista Blue Are The Pop Punk Preservation Society Cerveza y ruido (bkgrd) 3:37 Brigada Bastarda demo 2023 Popular Affliction L.A. Dirt Nap 1:29 Gylt I Will Commit a Holy Crime Other ways to hear BGP:Archive.org#474 on ArchiveApple PodcastsYouTube PodcastsPunk Rock Demonstration - Wednesdays 7 p.m. PSTRipper Radio - Fridays & Saturdays 7 p.m. PSTContact BGP:brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com@Punkbot138 on Instagram@BrosGrimPunk on XMore Music:Bandcamp - Follow us and download our albums: Brothers Grim Punk, Fight Music, and more!YouTube - tons of our punk playlists, from Anarchy to Zombies!

I don't talk to many young people — so many of them wear headphones or earbuds and they look stressed out. I'm guessing the music they're listening to is narcissist pop about Me, Myself and I, my need for more Me time, my exorbitant rent, boring job, bad boss, crowded bike paths, long wait times at climbing walls, the fear of arterial plaque caused by foods containing GMI and DMU, and if I smile at them, they'll take me for a privileged white male and give me the middle finger. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit garrisonkeillor.substack.com/subscribe

Recorded before the big drop out, so we spare you that banter. Outrageously rad lix sent in by Inland Empire, CA's Saddam Bin Laden, fresh one we needed to get back to from Vida Muerta, Long Beach's Glassbomb ripping faces off, and an unreleased Noise Itch project debuted from Image of Decay! Hit us up at brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com and download our music on our Bandcamp page.467 Playlist:Vida Punka...Inland Empire SoCal HENRY ROLLINS IS A ZIONIST 1:22  Saddam Bin Laden  Self Released Single 2024 Sistema Mortal Italy Vento di morte (wind of death) 1:21 Vida Muerta Il sole che trema (the sun that trembles) Long Beach Play Faster (demo version) 1:09 Glassbomb Bandcamp Single 2024 Noise Itch CS Berlin My Nightmare 1:32  Image of Decay Unreleased Demo CIS... (bkgrd) 5:39 Draft Dodger Draft Dodger TIME TO BE FITTED FOR YOUR TINFOIL HAT 0:36 SHUT THE FUCK UP if you use your arrogance as a sword you may fall upon it Hungary Manipulátorok 0:53 NORMS 100% hazaárulás Hungary Ítéletnap, Pszihoelektronikus Manipuláció 2:16 Kihalás Demo 2024 IL WORLD PEACE 2:04 MECHANIZM DEMO 2024 TN Fake Friends 1:04 Dru The Drifter  Six Punk  BUZZKILL 1:40 NO IDOLS DMU-015: DEMO 2024 Portland Horseplay 1:56 Carny Cumm Bandcamp Single 2024 My Name Is Filth 1:33 Part Time Filth My Leather_TN Fights  (bkgrd)  3:10 Shutdown Shutdown IN Guillotine 2:08 SSYNTAXX A•N•G•E•R Winnipeg BRICK 1:35 Human Target Nuclear Man Split 2024 General Speech Deadly Romance 1:55 Ejaculators Wank Generation Junko Recs Chile Buscandoles Males Al Cuerpo 1:33 Tupa Demo Dirty Slap Recs FR Cage 1:28 Bavure Demo 2024 Finland  Jotain tarttis tehdä 1:38 Turhuus - Split w- Harmer Indonesia Anxiety Disorder 1:46 PUCK Demo 2024 WA DC big screen little screen 1:28 flat demo Monarca 1:28 XGRIFOX H​.​U​.​G​.​S / XGRIFOX SPLIT Accept Defeat... (bkgrd) 7:27 Cut Piece Cut Piece [TSOPR-017] Violent World 1:02 World Bastard "Seized By Fear'' D-Beat Noise Attack 1:24 Electric Funeral Total Funeral Philly Bad Style 0:40 Fuck SS Demo Japan Enemy 0:50 Milk Bricks 7" Finland Pakkohoito 1:04 PARASOMNIA DEMO 2017 Stuck In My Ways 1:38 DEAD CITY Trap Tapes, Vol. 1 Brazil Tecidos E Metal 0:56 Ciborgue Neurose Digital My Sister Is A Blister 0:24 DORK B B Q Long Haul/Hell (bkgrd) 4:xx Troy Ounce Singles CT Bad Behavior 2:37 Smirk Bandcamp 2024 Single Other ways to hear BGP:Archive.org#467 on ArchiveApple PodcastsYouTube PodcastsPunk Rock Demonstration - Wednesdays 7 p.m. PSTRipper Radio - Fridays & Saturdays 7 p.m. PSTContact BGP:brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com@Punkbot138 on Instagram@BrosGrimPunk on XMore Music:Bandcamp - Follow us and download our albums: Brothers Grim Punk, Fight Music, and more!YouTube - tons of our punk playlists, from Anarchy to Zombies!

On today's episode, we interview Dr. Angela Franklin who is the President and CEO of Des Moines University.  Des Moines University Medical and Health Sciences Division is home of the second osteopathic school to open up in the United States and the 15th largest medical school in the country. The dean, Angela Franklin,  is a licensed clinical psychologist who completed her PhD at Emory University followed by a clinical internship at Grady Memorial Hospital. Our conversation with Dr. Franklin touches on several topics including her roles and responsibilities as President and CEO of DMU as well as the importance of opportunity and preparation for life's challenges. For our pre-medical listeners, medical students, and members of the medical community, Dr. Franklin shares pearls of wisdom that you won't want to miss. 

A raw and noisy batch of tunes this week, just how we like it! A bunch of lix we've been trying to get to forever, plus a bunch of 2024 Bandcamp finds. Some Soundcloud stuff as well. Spoiler alert: New release from The Slime next week! Hit us up at brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com and download our music on our Bandcamp page.454 playlist:NOISEPUNK...Total Recall Who Do You Choose? 0:53 Häxorna Demo 2024Brazil a certeza da perda ( the certainty of loss) 0:42 Odiär  Mortos não acabarão (Dead Will Not End) Unlawful Assembly WI/ Berlin Eugenesia (eugenics) 1:18 DESINTEGRACI​Ó​N VIOLENTA LA BESTIA SLO Tripper 1:26 HUMANOIDS DEMO 2017Troops Of Tomorrow (bkgrd) (The Exploited) 4:50 S.I.N. PUNX It's What Unites Us vol 6 instant death 1:50 damaging noise  Noise Punk Recs Soundcloud Single Track 03 0:50 Stupid Life Skin Graft demo Dunce! 1:23 Ultra Violent Noize Storm 3 Songs Boston Hideous World 0:57 Symptom Hideous World EP Wag Our Tails For No One 1:23 Lifeform Lifeform demo 2012 Noise Room 1 - FUNDAMENTAL 1:29 v/a - STUPID MENTAL ITCH Stupid Life/Fundamental/Mutant Itch split cassette Anyway 1:34 PISTOL JOKE  Noise Punk Recs Soundcloud Single Who Killed Noise? 1:41 Allergy West Coast Tour Tape NY Anarchy In Wal-Mart 1:43 Grawlixes Very Fucking GrawlixesCasualties of a Rape Culture (bkgrd) 3:19 Appalachian Terror Unit We Don't Need ThemWA FUTURE VOID 4:59 SPIRAL DEMISE DEMO Phoenix breaking point 1:37 DISMAY dove calling Slovenia Crystal Bullshit 2:09 Slund Noisetape Volume 2 Distro Cefalia Basement Dweller. 1:19 Weak Pulse The Killing Moves Around The Planet Educacion Cinica CRIME NUCLEAR 1:22 NÃO E.C. #030 - DEMO No Time Recs CA Irreparable Cranial Detriment 1:17 Sniping Pigs 2 Piece and a Biscuit [NTR 388] NEVER COME BACK 1:50 Designated Moshers Unit DMU-013: IDENTITY SHOCK - DEMO Tetryon Tapes Fuck $hit 1:10 Leaking Head Leaking Head 2024 EPTN Conquest 1:26 Deprive 4 Track Disbeat NoisebombImpuro Metal Punk. (bkgrd) 4:12 Impura Realidad. Seguimos VomitandoMexico Leviatán/Miedo 2:05 Assässini Ep MN Nuclear Overdose 2:25 Skimask Nuclear Overdose Argentina Degradation of the Human Condition 1:39 Disraid Degradation of the Human Condition Sweden Bully 0:59 XIAO BURN Montreal UNICORN TATTOO 1:15 GAZM FUCK YOU II SF Gaslighter 1:51 IRRITANT IRRITANT Art Fairy 1:54 Lorain Skum Punk From The Gutters of Ohio Vol. 1 My Crap - Comps Baloney Hands 0:55 Homeless Cadaver Iron LungDownward Again (bkgrd) 3:33 Death Knell Taste the Bitter End of a Once Brilliant Dream L.A. 1753 Recordings Fuck the Human Race 2:45 Problem Violence on the MetroOther ways to hear BGP:Archive.org#454 on ArchiveApple PodcastsYouTube PodcastsPunk Rock Demonstration - Wednesdays 7 p.m. PSTRipper Radio - Fridays & Saturdays 7 p.m. PSTContact BGP:brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com@Punkbot138 on Instagram@BrosGrimPunk on XMore Music:Bandcamp - Follow us and download our albums: Brothers Grim Punk, Fight Music, and more!YouTube - tons of our punk playlists, from Anarchy to Zombies!

Welcome to the DMU Podcast Ep. 25. Adam Tebbs is back as a seasoned DMU group leader to talk with us about all the ways you can royally mess up running a small group - and how to do it if you want no one to change. Check out our podcast: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXuEUnqVsUDctkFq7SCqy4w⁠⁠⁠ Buy the curriculum: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.dmu.org/product/dangerous-men-guidebook⁠⁠⁠ Invest and donate to the ministry: ⁠⁠⁠https://secure.lglforms.com/form_engine/s/7DfH-3whyu1fXyAq1uLsNA⁠⁠⁠ Dangerous Men helps young men learn to fight spiritually so they can freely follow Jesus. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lowell-seashore/support

Welcome to the DMU Podcast Ep. 24. Today we are joined by a great young man, Adam Tebbs who has been leading a surge on campus of young men going through DMU and finding freedom in Christ. He shares about his life, what it is like playing soccer in college, and how he has learned to listen to God. Check out our podcast: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXuEUnqVsUDctkFq7SCqy4w⁠⁠ Buy the curriculum: ⁠⁠https://www.dmu.org/product/dangerous-men-guidebook⁠⁠ Invest and donate to the ministry: ⁠⁠https://secure.lglforms.com/form_engine/s/7DfH-3whyu1fXyAq1uLsNA⁠⁠ Dangerous Men helps young men learn to fight spiritually so they can freely follow Jesus. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lowell-seashore/support

Episode 448... More new bangers from the BGP you can't deny. One from our upcoming release in April and a new one from our collaboration with the El Matador (Chico punk legend)! Also new stuff sent in by Columbia's Deshumanizer and Brazil's two-piece D-Beat ripper band Odiär!! A bunch of other new ones and some we've been dying to get to for a while. As promised, here's the elastic and tupperware jam video (fountanemusic) we mention at the end of the show. Enjoy!Listen to Episode 448: (scroll for set list)On ARCHIVE.On Apple or Google Podcasts, hit "play."On blogspot, play it below:Listen to The Brothers Grim Punkcast:ARCHIVE.Org - hear/download past episodesPUNK ROCK DEMONSTRATION - Wednesdays 7 p.m. PSTRIPPER RADIO - Fridays & Saturdays 7 p.m. PSTApple PodcastsGoogle PodcastsYouTube PodcastsContact Brothers Grim Punk:brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com - In a punk band? Send us your music! Want us to make you a punk song? Email us some lyrics!@Punkbot138 on Instagram@BrosGrimPunk on XMore Punk Music:Bandcamp - Follow us and download our albums: Brothers Grim Punk, Fight Music, and more!YouTube - tons of punk playlists, from Anarchy to Zombies!DesPunkAnizar...Less Than 1%    1:22  Brothers Grim Punk Unreleased 2024 Single SF For the Better 0:54 VVM Demo 2023 Mind Games 1:04 common enemy As the World Burns Drinking with WWF Superstars 2:21 El Matador and The BGP  Unreleased 2024 Single Goodbye California (bkgrd) 2:24 The Queers Grow Up Punk Columbia  Enemigxs 2:36 Deshumanizar  2024 Demo Death Drug Psychosis 1:02 Green Beret "Hardcore 2014" - West Coast Tour Tape FIGHT BACK 0:53 BALLISTIC AX DMU-001: BALLISTIC AX - BALLISTIC ACTS OF TERROR Out On The Street 1:26 LAUGHING BOY - Demo 2016 Keep In Step 1:13 WATCHDOG - Demo Authority Abuse 1:06 POLICY OF TRUTH - Demo I'd Rather Die Than Be In Your Cover Band 1:40 Shut The Fuck Up Enter the Blue Room Love Me, I'm A Liberal (bkgrd) 4:02 Jello Biafra & Mojo Nixon Pairie Home Invasion Brazil a la mierda nazi_fuck nazi  1:05  Odiär- Mortos não acabarão  BREAK OR BE BROKE 1:42 DMU-014: STREET HASSLE - WINTER 2024 PROMO Philly HEX 1:00 SHARE GOD's FAVORITE ep Toronto Barbed Wire Disease 2:28 BRAIN ITCH The Future Burns Phoenix WARSYSTEM (Shitlickers) 0:40 D-ABSENT coupla covers WA BOOK OF THE MACHINES 1:06 SPIRAL DEMISE DEMO So Cal one 1:11 FAST 6 fast ones Unite And Fight (To Smash the Right) (bkgrd) 5:07 S.I.N. PUNX It's What Unites Us vol 6 Austin TX PRICE OF PROGRESS 1:07 Scorched Earth Demo 2022 Austin SPEEDFUCKINGNOISEATTACK 7:42 EMPART SPEEDFUCKINGNOISEATTACK Austin Hooked Jaw 1:11 Impalers LP Belgium GG Is A Bootleg 0:59 Freddie & The Vangrails album #2 teaser... Belgium HATE SONG 1:02 Shredder DEMO Die World Die 1:51 Ill Content Cheap Ass Music Vol.1 Guana Batz - (bkgrd) Piledriver Boogie Losing Battle 0:44 Corrective Measure S/T 7" Quarantine Me 1:00 BLOCKHEAD - Demo COME CORRECT 1:19 ULTRAS ULTRAS DENY - The Harder You Fall 1:42 Sound of chaos records NO CLASS FOR HELL CRUST SOUND vol 3. Dögölj Meg! (Die!) 1:50 Lecsa - Punk Legális Pusztítás (Legal Destruction) Mexican Slum Rats (bkgrd)Germany No Gods,No Masters, No Leaders 1:38 Kläpträp Dipsomania for Conquest

Episode 444... Our beloved Niners took a fat crap in the Big Game, of course, but that didn't prevent us from featuring a new BGP cover of San Francisco's Bad Shit Niners song! If you remember the SF Bay Area Thrasher Skate Rock band with members such as Tony and Trixie Trujillo, and the late and great Thrasher Mag skate legend Jake Phelps. We gave it a modern twist with some updated lyrics. With the loss, not much love in the air as far as Valentine's Day lix, so a few of those along with some annoying sports-themed tunes and a handful of 2024 rippers from Bandcamp! Enjoy!Listen to Episode 444: (scroll for set list)On ARCHIVE.On Apple or Google Podcasts, hit "play."On blogspot, play it below:Listen to The Brothers Grim Punkcast:ARCHIVE.Org - hear/download past episodesPUNK ROCK DEMONSTRATION - Wednesdays 7 p.m. PSTRIPPER RADIO - Fridays & Saturdays 7 p.m. PSTApple PodcastsGoogle PodcastsYouTube PodcastsContact Brothers Grim Punk:brothersgrimpunk@gmail.com - In a punk band? Send us your music! Want us to make you a punk song? Email us some lyrics!@Punkbot138 on Instagram@BrosGrimPunk on XMore Punk Music:Bandcamp - Follow us and download our albums: Brothers Grim Punk, Fight Music, and more!YouTube - tons of punk playlists, from Anarchy to Zombies!Cover art by @zidnyfx. BGP logo by @asherfreeman.Niners got punked...Niners 1:19  BROTHERS GRIM PUNK 2024 Bandcamp Single (Bad Shit cover)Stop Football Violence 1:13 HEADxUP 2021 Single Iron Lung Recs -mute witness 0:49 KEVLAR UPPER  2024 Demo Hammond IN HEARTACHE 1:08 ZHOOP DEVIL'S LETTUCE My Girlfriend (bkgrd) 2:36 Guttermouth Gusto! Extreme Ear Slaughter Greece Βγάλε το σκασμό (Shut the Fuck Up) 1:05 YAKUZA極道 EER 037: S/T LP 2024 Sweden Verzwifelfe stunden (Lost Hours) 1:10 Zelta Laiki 私たち二人が一つになるとき Chemical Warfare 1:13    CMOΓ    Nothing to Harvest Records NTH048. CMOΓ/Ergophobia - Paranöid VisionsTenant Recordings LB CA ILLEGAL HOT TUB PARTY 1:48    BAD BEAT    HOLLOW POINT/BOTTLED VIOLENT/BAD BEAT/SPAD 4 WAY SPLIT BOTTLED VIOLENT - PERSONAL 1:09 HOLLOW POINT/BOTTLED VIOLENT/BAD BEAT/SPAD 4 WAY SPLIT TN Poser Disposer 1:35 Kuru Four tracks of noise hell democo dependent love song (bkgrd) 2:43 Drunk Ugly Insane Killing The Record Industry Vol 2 MY FAVORITE SPORT IS WIFE BEATING 0:36 FUCKING CHRIST Catchy As Aids - CAR 03 AL BUNDY RULES 0:33 FUCKING CHRIST Catchy As Aids - CAR 03OBSESSED FAN 1:40 KLINEFELTER Klinefelter - Party Time - CAR 09 Referees Are Not Paid To Call A Fair Game They Are Employees Of The League And They Are Paid To Ensure That Their Employer Is As Profitable As Possible 1:30 Gefilte Fist Aural Skidmark Jock Parade 1:30 OAF  Court With No TrialDis beer Continues 1:02 CHAINSAW MASSACRE  The Dis Slaugther ContinuesmNo Love 0:51 School Damage No Love EP NC Valentine 2:11 The Dirty Digits  Reverb Nation SingleThe Love Song (bkgrd) 3:06 The Stupid Stupid Henchmen No-I.Q. Presents... Skate Song 1:56 Sick Crap Take No Shit Shift of Power 1:13 Scheme SCHEME ALCOHOL ABUSE 1:05 SYSTEM SHIT THE LAST HALIFAX RECORDINGS GHETTO TRASH 1:22 BEERLORDS Small Towns And Shitty Cities Vol. 2 - Cheap Ass Records 04 Richmond VA Fair Weather Friend 1:05 Putrid Boys Tape #1 Debaucher 0:40 Shitkickers Cool Bands 0815 Lovesongs (bkgrd) 2:33 Over The Top  Keep On Trucking 7''  Nuklear Wah 1:01 D-Boys Cool Bands 3 Jackass 0:29    HCG    V.A. NOISECORE CONGREGATION Vol​.​2 DIRTY HARRY - Do You Feel Lucky Punk? 0:28 V.A. NOISECORE CONGREGATION Vol​.​213 0:44 ARKESTRA DMU-009: DEMO Hey Baws 0:48  Big Zit  DemoIn Love This Way (bkgrd) 2:31 Descendents I Don't Want To Grow Up_New Alliance Recs Blood On Your Boots 1:23 Rat Cage Total Vermin Tape Scorched Earth 1:08 Bruxism Agonising Noise For The Helpless  Equality In Death 1:08 Toaster Trash Equality In Death VULTURES 0:59 YIELD TO NONE DMU-008: DEMO 2 Deadbeat 1:14 Misled Youth (DC) Misled Youth Brazil Vihaan Työtä (I Hate Work) 1:06 Helvetin Viemärit Kauhea Melu Oksennus (Terrible Noise Vomiting) 7" EP Brazilian Punk family  Rawpunk 4 Life! 1:47 Luta Armada Rawpunk 4 Life!I LOVE PUNK ROCK 2:13 LIQUORED UP Wasted Again - CAR 13

We talk about the highlights of the past month in the DMU ministry. Lowell reflects on the lived experience of learning to trust God in total dependence on Him and to be totally submitted to Him. Grant talks about our attachments to money, its utility and purpose and the tension in between. We share stories, laugh and wrestle with living a life of total self-gift in a world so often luring us into a life of excess. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lowell-seashore/support

Barbara Buttrick and the History of Women's Boxing in Britain This paper explores the life and career of Barbara Buttrick but also the way in which her achievements have been remembered (and forgotten). Born near Hull in 1930, Buttrick faced discrimination and disapproval in the UK and was frequently banned and boycotted. Moving to the United States in 1952, she enjoyed greater opportunities and recognition. In 1957, she beat Phyllis Kugler in a bout in San Antonio, Texas, to become the first sanctioned women's boxing title-holder. In retirement, Buttrick became a key figure in the foundation and development of the Women's International Boxing Federation. Drawing on material from the Barbara Buttrick Collection at the National Fairground Archive in Sheffield among other sources, this paper examines three key phases in the ‘making' and ‘remembering' of Buttrick in relation to the history of women's boxing in Britain. It focuses first on her boxing career in the late 1940s-1960, then examines the interweaving of Buttrick's story into the narrative of women's boxing at the 2012 London Olympics, before finally looking at the portrayal of Buttrick in Amanda Whittington's 2017 play Mighty Atoms. Matthew Taylor is Professor of History at the ICSHC and Director of the Institute of History, DMU. He has written widely on the history of sport in Britain and beyond. His last book was Sport and the Home Front: Wartime Britain at Play, 1939-1945 (Routledge, 2020) and he is currently completing World of Sport: Connected and Transnational Histories, which will be published by Routledge in 2024.

Springtime in Washington: G+T lawyer Anna Belgiorno-Nettis spoke at the world's largest antitrust meeting and now reports back on equity and fairness in competition law, how the major antitrust jurisdictions are getting things done, and how Australia stacks up. Plus the world's friendliest conference and the Chatham House rule, the latest on digital platforms, including the UK's DMU and DMCC and the EU's DMA and DSA, and the godfathers of artificial intelligence and stupidity … All this and more with co-hosts Moya Dodd and Matt Rubinstein "Springtime in Washington" (1971) by Alma Woodsey Thomas ACCC Chair Gina Cass-Gottlieb and Commissioner Liza Carver at the Hodgekiss Competition Law Conference The Chatham House Rule (official) and the Cider House Rules (wrongly reported by ChatGPT) Writers Guild of America demands and counters ACCC DPSI Interim Report No. 6 on social media services The UK Digital Markets, Competition and Consumers Bill MLex on designations under the European Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act G+T on Artificial Intelligence and misinformation Vox on chatbots from Eliza to ChatGPT Meet the Gilbert + Tobin Competition + Regulation team Email us at edge@gtlaw.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Breaking down the first and second rounds of the NCAA tournament; Detroit Mercy's Antoine Davis upset at not being given the chance to break the NCAA's all-time scoring record, after DMU wasn't invited to the postseason; Upwards of 75% of TX school districts are moving to four day weeks, in order to help “teacher retention” This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit arkmedia.substack.com

So many Karn targets this set, so little time! This week we give some parting thoughts on the DMU meta season and take a look a the few remaining spoilers we still needed to discuss. Link to our ExtraLife page: https://www.extra-life.org/participant/493856 Looking for more pioneer content? Visit: playingpioneer.comWant to support the show? You can find our Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/crew3mtgBuy a playmat or used our Inked Gaming affiliate link here: https://bit.ly/3aX4hzOWant to keep up with the show? Join our Discord discord.gg/Wydsb6xcTC or follow us on twitter @Crew3podcastWant more Crew3 content? Check out our YouTube channel or watch our weekly streams on Twitch.If you like the show, please share us with your friends and leave a review!  

It's spoilers, spoilers, and more spoilers on this week's episode, but there's certainly a lot to talk about! Brother's War looks like it's really going to shake things up, but the real question is will it be enough to finally get Karn the Great Creator banned? The guys weigh in.Link to our ExtraLife page: https://www.extra-life.org/participant/493856 Looking for more pioneer content? Visit: playingpioneer.comWant to support the show? You can find our Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/crew3mtgSaturday Challenge: https://www.mtgo.com/en/mtgo/decklist/pioneer-challenge-2022-10-2912489848Sunday Challenge: https://www.mtgo.com/en/mtgo/decklist/pioneer-challenge-2022-10-3012489852Buy a playmat or used our Inked Gaming affiliate link here: https://bit.ly/3aX4hzOWant to keep up with the show? Join our Discord discord.gg/Wydsb6xcTC or follow us on twitter @Crew3podcastWant more Crew3 content? Check out our YouTube channel or watch our weekly streams on Twitch.If you like the show, please share us with your friends and leave a review! 

It's Crew2 again this week, but we've swapped out Chris for Ricky. This week the guys make their Brother's War predictions ahead of spoiler season and discuss what it takes for midrange to find success in Pioneer. It can't just all be Rakdos all the time right?  Looking for more pioneer content? Visit: playingpioneer.comWant to support the show? You can find our Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/crew3mtgBuy a playmat or used our Inked Gaming affiliate link here: https://bit.ly/3aX4hzOWant to keep up with the show? Join our Discord discord.gg/Wydsb6xcTC or follow us on twitter @Crew3podcastWant more Crew3 content? Check out our YouTube channel or watch our weekly streams on Twitch.If you like the show, please share us with your friends and leave a review!  

** Are you a Martech Enthusiast? Subscribe to our 2-weekly newsletter at clubmartech.com ** With sales cycles becoming more and more complex and having younger people in the DMU that prefer a 'rep-free' experience, the use of personal video is booming. In this episode, Elias has a chat with Yaniv Siegel, the Sales Manager for EMEA at Vidyard, personal video platform. Topics we discuss: Examples of usage of personal video in marketing for Top, Middle, and Bottom of the Funnel (TOFU, MOFU, and BOFU) Examples of practical use by sales in the prospecting, mid-sales, and post-sales stages LinkedIn Yaniv: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yanivsiegel/  Website Vidyard: https://www.vidyard.com/podcast/marketingguys/    ** Are you a Martech Enthusiast? Subscribe to our 2-weekly newsletter at clubmartech.com ** The Marketing Technology Podcast is brought to you by Marketing Guys, the #1 Martech agency in Europe. If you want to be on this podcast or would like to know more about Marketing Technology, visit our website at marketingguys.com or contact Elias Crum at e.crum@marketingguys.nl

We're taking a fast and loose grab bag approach this week on the podcast to touch on a number of DMU specific topics: kicker-card tiers, domain mana bases, the wheel, and drafting with the end in mind! Roundtable Draft Support us via TCGPlayer!

This week on Limited Resources Marshall welcomes Sierkovitz back on the show to talk DMU Data, Data Driven Hueristics, and more! Sierko walks us through how DMU is different from the last sets, and it really is! Sierkovitz on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Sierkovitz Articles talked about on the show:  https://mtgazone.com/data-based-heuristics-for-mtg-arena-drafts/ https://mtgazone.com/dmu-draft-metagame/ https://www.17lands.com/ You can support Limited Resources on the LR Patreon page here: https://www.patreon.com/limitedresources LR is brought to you by TCGPlayer, click the link to use the LR affiliate code! LR is brought to you by FTX: FTX.US for US based customers and FTX.com for outside the US. Reminder: Marshall and Luis are not registered financial advisors, make sure you consult one before making investments of any kind. Your Hosts: Marshall Sutcliffe and Luis Scott-Vargas Marshall's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Marshall_LR Luis's Twitter: https://twitter.com/lsv LR Community Subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/lrcast

Key Takeaways   Fathers have spiritual authority to protect their families. As a father, clean up your own sins. Talk about sexuality in your home. Men need friendships that have intimacy and vulnerability. God, He does things.   dadAWESOME   We're on a mission to add LIFE to the dad life. We're passionate about helping dads live fully alive as they lead their kids to God's awesomeness.  | YouTube |  Instagram | Facebook   Lowell Seashore   For the last 33 years Lowell has worked for Youth Investment Foundation (YIF) which operates community programs and a retreat center called Timber Bay. He wrote the book Dangerous Men and Unveil (for women) and from them another area of ministry was created. It is under the umbrella of YIF and is called Dangerous Men United (DMU).   He is the Head Coach of the ministry because he got to pick his own title. He lives with his awesome and wonderful wife Susie, no kids of their own (but they have had 32 foster teenage boys) near Minneapolis, MN. His passion for coaching was developed as he coached varsity soccer for Orono High School for 14 years and then 3 years coaching a Nordic Combined skier in two Winter Olympics and one World Cup. Then he turned his coaching passion to young men to mentor them in how to live free from sin and bondage. He personally coaches, mentors, and disciples young men.   He also loves Jeeping, hiking and generally playing in the mountains and spending as much time as possible at the world headquarters for DMU. (A cabin in the mountains of Colorado) He is personally submitted to Jesus Christ and committed to making disciples who become spiritual warriors for Christ.   Key Quotes (Full Transcript of Conversation Here)   09:51 - "I just pray. The best youth work ever did, I pray, they show up." 14:33 - "After a while, I got real tired of wussy Christians. I mean, it's sad. We're all commanded to make disciples, and we do a really poor job of making disciples. We think it's, to me, it was like disciple making wasn't a list of things you have to learn about or a program. You know, if it was if I was going to make disciples, I had to share my life with them and they could see how I live and that's a bigger point." 15:29 - "The most important thing I would love to tell fathers is that the spiritual authority that they have in the home is not to boss people around or be an authority like we think of it. Spiritual authority is to protect their family. If he's protected really well in that way he has a lot of spiritual authority to protect his children so that Satan doesn't have the legal rights to go add his kids through the father."   Conversation Links   Dangerous Men Website Dangerous Men Shop   Links from dadAWESOME   https://dadawesome.org/life/ Make a Donation to dadAWESOME Join the dadAWESOME Prayer Team Receive weekly encouragement by texting "dad" to 651-370-8618

All format long, we've been talking about the context of cards in DMU and the need to constantly adjust your pick orders. Well, this week we're diving into exactly why that is and when to do it! Roundtable Draft Log Draft Example 1 Draft Example 2 Draft Example 3 Draft Example 4 Support us via TCGPlayer!

Support the show! http://patreon.com/magicmics  Visit our sponsor: http://www.coolstuffinc.com/  Check out the twitch channel: http://twitch.tv/magicmics  Visit our subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/magicmics  Follow us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/magicmicscast  Like us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/magicmics    Co-Sponsors:  http://www.cardhoarder.com/  http://www.alteredsleeves.com/ (use code MAGICMICS )  http://www.cubeks.com/   AirDate - 9/29/22 First Pick   WeeklyMTG Roundup Starter Commander: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/410942703623208960/1025159222549286962/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/410942703623208960/1025160294474989618/unknown.png https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/starter-commander-decks-available-december-2-2022-09-29 Oracle of the Alpha: https://twitter.com/RobertJSchuster/status/1575600739904552961?s=20&t=ieO4FZhkouSbVLmphZVApQ Brothers' War Schedule: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/410942703623208960/1025159873803063438/unknown.png Serialized Cards: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/410942703623208960/1025165400096378961/unknown.png First Look at The Brothers' War: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/first-look-brothers-war-2022-09-29 #MTGBRR:https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1575618323341246470?s=20&t=dvbeKHaWkLskQmZqVv_QTw   Gather the Townsfolk   Magic 30 Roundup Cosplay Prizes Update: https://twitter.com/playmtg/status/1574497144622530596?s=46&t=qtFr0hZzYPN5NTzE6jtxgA Limited Side Events?: https://twitter.com/spindownpro/status/1574843719185997825?s=46&t=9AkRv7zoef_aOj_Fh25Z8Q Announcing the 30th Anniversary Announcement: https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1574911965729783808   Secret Lair at Hasbro Pulse: https://twitter.com/HasbroPulse/status/1574452320343150594?s=20&t=XT0XZ2Qk08UJ4kAhBlascA US Only: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466580311342448640/1024016668621541427/Screenshot_2022-09-26_at_18.56.07.png   Alison Lührs Leaves WotC:https://twitter.com/alisontheperson/status/1575178894382370816   Pioneer Challenger Decklists: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/pioneer-challenger-decks-2022-decklists-2022-09-29 Banned Cards: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410942703623208960/1025171293408083968/unknown.png   Game Night 2022 Decklists: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/game-night-free-all-2022-decklists-2022-09-29   Desperate Ravings   Sam's Thoughts on Combat Tricks in DMU: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410942703623208960/1023604975403810937/unknown.png   GIVEAWAY & THANKS https://streamlabs.com/dashboard#/subscribers

DMU has given us so many new legendary options many of which are Uncommon. With that being the case Marshall is back to talk about which cards from Dominaria United we think are going to make a splash in Artisan Commander. Are you going to build any of these commanders? Let us know in comments. Join in the conversation on our Discord! https://discord.com/invite/h2z9ZPPZ If you want to customize you deck even more check out the Alter Sleeves link below! It really helps support the show. https://altersleeves.com/themmcast Looking to pick up some of the cards we discussed today? Use our link below to help support the show! https://channelfireball.com?ref=alexkessler Opening animation was done by Geoffrey Palmer. Follow him on Twitter: @livingcardsmtg  @Living Cards MTG  Kess on Commander Mechanic https://youtu.be/v2l-OfxmzFA ---- Contents ---- 0:00 - Intro Join The MMCast Patreon https://www.Patreon.com/TheMMCast Discord: https://discord.gg/fjYdTwS MMcast Twitch: twitch.tv/kesswylie Instagram: @TheMMCast Kess: Twitter: @Kesswylie Instagram: @Kess_Wylie Twitch: Twitch.tv/Kessco Ben: Twitter: @benbatemanmedia Instagram: @BenBatemanMedia Twitch: Twitch.tv/BenBatemanStreams Michael: Twitter @Dudardd Website: kess.co/themmcast Email: themmcast@kess.co Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/170382890167965/?ref=share Produced by Time Traveler Media - https://www.timetravelermedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chase and Nigel discuss their past weeks in gaming, DMU standard, the SBB meta, hopeful patch changes, and their toasts and roasts for the week.   Please leave a review of the show on iTunes! iTunes Page Join our Discord!: discord.gg/xECSW5K Facebook us: https://www.facebook.com/BrewmastersCast/ Tweet us: @BrewmastersCast, @Cosgrove_C, @NigelTheLondon, @Kindabigdeal44

It's our quarterly limited episode! CCR's been drafting too much DMU, so we've got plenty to talk about, even if all the decks are kind of the same. But sometimes you're five color spells, and other times you're five color creatures, and every once in a while you get to attack! Thanks as always to Wave Sunray for our music

We're returning to a LoL-favorite episode template in Commons in Context this week, but with a twist! DMU is a format all about uncommons, so we're here to highlight the ones to look out for, the ones best supported by their respective colors, and how each color's core of commons plays out. Plus, a roundtable draft leading to an unlikely deck! Roundtable: https://www.17lands.com/draft/09f15687ab9647be8e5992fcf7f14eda

View all cards mentioned in the episode → Andy, Anthony, and Parker talk about the results from the Dominaria United community set review. Almost 350 Cube designers submitted the cards they were interested in from DMU and rated them on how likely they expected to stay in their environment long term. Our hosts talk about the most tested and top-rated cards, examine trends, look at how the set compares to past sets, and offer their own qualitative observations. Check out the full survey results. Our survey for the next set, Warhammer 40,000 is already up. (Truly preview season never ends!) To make sure you don't miss the next set's survey, sign up for our infrequent newsletter. Discussed in this episode: Dominaria United Set Review Article Katamari Damacy AspiringSpike Jason Waddell's Cube Design – Remodeling, Part Two Dom Harvey's Cube Thread on Riptide Lab Timestamps: 5:18 — Episode Format 8:57 — Founding the Third Path 15:08 — Archangel of Wrath (Hot Take) 15:40 — Leyline Binding 21:02 — Meria, Scholar of Antiquity 23:05 — Karn, Living Legacy (Hot Take) 23:35 — Tail Swipe 24:56 — Llanowar Loamspeaker (Hot Take) 26:00 — Tear Asunder 31:49 — King Darien XLVIII and Ajani, Sleeper Agent (Hot Takes) 32:34 — The Elder Dragon War 35:06 — Baird, Argivian Recruiter 39:29 — Urborf Lhurgoyf (Hot Take) 40:00 — Sheoldred, the Apocalypse 44:08 — The Raven Man (Hot Take) 45:24 — 6. Squee, Dubious Monarch 56:50 — 5. Guardian of New Benalia 1:03:38 — 4. Evolved Sleeper 1:08:47 — 3. Cult Conscript 1:11:56 — Tolarian Terror and Urborg Repossession Interlude 1:14:25 — 2. Aether Channeler 1:21:39 — 1. Cut Down Check us out on Twitch and YouTube for paper Cube gameplay. You can find the hosts' Cubes on Cube Cobra: Andy's “Bun Magic” Cube Anthony's “Regular” Cube Parker's “The Ship of Theseus” Cube If want us to do a pack 1, pick 1 from your cube submit it on our website. Send in questions to the show at mail@luckypaper.co. You can also find both your hosts in the MTG Cube Talk Discord. If you'd like to show your support for the show, please leave us a review on iTunes or wherever you listen. Musical production by DJ James Nasty.

DJ (@CardgardenMTG), Jason (@jasonEalt), and Corbin (@CHosler) get quizzed on topics from DMU to Robots and everything in between. Make sure to check us out on Youtube because everything is better with video. https://www.youtube.com/user/BrainstormBrewery 00:47 Witchy Pop Quiz 13:53 Breaking Bulk 20:26 The Reason We Do the Pod 24:41 Robo DJ 2.0 44:22 Pick of...

PREDICTIONS TIME. Nick and Zak check their work from Baldur's Gate and did pretty good! With some notable surprises... Then the hosts compile a list of what cards are gonna be bangers in DMU. Is there a card you think will be big we didn't mention? Let us know with the links down below! You can reach us on Twitter or Tumblr, and our YouTube has videos for even more Commander content! You can even email us at commandertheory@gmail.comIf you like our podcast, please support us on Patreon! Now with add-free episodes!If you want to hear more of Zak's band, The Havnauts, you can do so Here, Here, Here, Here, and Here!If you're planning on shopping with TCGPlayer, you can support the show by using our affiliate link. It costs you nothing and earns money for the show!The opening theme is Lincoln Continental by Entrophy (now Nic Cage on Soundcloud)Support the show

DMU is so sweet, we're splitting it across TWO episodes!! This episode will feature our favorite picks for the 99 and top cards for other formats, while the next one will focus all around potential commanders. So buckle up for some TECH! ---- Support us on Patreon and get full access and plenty more benefits https://www.patreon.com/hexdrinkers Use our TCGplayer affiliate link to buy cards: https://bit.ly/3qWntVa Check out articles, deck techs, and more at https://hexdrinkers.com/ Talk Magic with us at https://twitter.com/hexdrinkers All our decklists can be found at https://www.moxfield.com/users/The_Hexdrinkers Questions, comments, or business ventures can be directed to hexdrinkers@gmail.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Dominaria United is out and the reprint of Liliana of the Veil means she is now legal in Pioneer! This week we are joined by Jonathan Young to discuss where Pioneer is as a format right now and what kind of splash the new DMU cards are making in the format. ~ Guest Info~ Jonathan Young Linktree: https://ffm.bio/jonathanyoung  @Jonathan Young  In the wake of Roe v Wade being overturned we encourage everyone to donate to charities that help support those most affected by this ruling. Below is a link where you help support. https://events.softgiving.com/donate/WeWontGoBackMarathon Join in the conversation on our Discord! https://discord.com/invite/7zAZV8JK If you want to customize you deck even more check out the Alter Sleeves link below! It really helps support the show. https://altersleeves.com/themmcast Looking to pick up some of the cards we discussed today? Use our link below to help support the show! https://channelfireball.com?ref=alexkessler Opening animation was done by Geoffrey Palmer. Follow him on Twitter: @livingcardsmtg  @Living Cards MTG  Canadian Highlander Points List https://canadianhighlander.wordpress.com/rules-the-points-list-and-deck-construction/ ---- Contents ---- 0:00 - Intro Join The MMCast Patreon https://www.Patreon.com/TheMMCast Discord: https://discord.gg/fjYdTwS MMcast Twitch: twitch.tv/kesswylie Instagram: @TheMMCast Kess: Twitter: @Kesswylie Instagram: @Kess_Wylie Twitch: Twitch.tv/Kessco Ben: Twitter: @benbatemanmedia Instagram: @BenBatemanMedia Twitch: Twitch.tv/BenBatemanStreams Michael: Twitter @Dudardd Website: kess.co/themmcast Email: themmcast@kess.co Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/170382890167965/?ref=share Produced by Time Traveler Media - https://www.timetravelermedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maria Brackett, Divine Mercy University's Program Director for the Spiritual Direction Certificate joins Jim to discuss what is Spiritual Direction, Why do you need it and how do you find one. Check out divinemercy.edu Takeaways: 1. Spiritual Direction is an important pillar in recovery according to the experts 2. Spiritual Direction along with the grace of the sacraments can be a helpful part of your overall recovery plan. 3. Whether you struggle with an addiction or the betrayal trauma from a loved one's addiction, spiritual direction helps you find God and healing where ever you are right now. Our program at DMU to train spiritual directors: https://divinemercy.edu/academics/spiritual-direction-certificate/ Site where our alumni are listed: https://divinemercy.edu/alumni/alumni-directory/ Catholic site to find spiritual directors: https://seekdirection.app/#/home

As a way to illustrate the different paths you can take through each DMU draft, we've got a number of logs to review and discuss the implications that stem from each potential pick! Draft 1: https://www.17lands.com/draft/f1743154607e41f69b199a5608c9f018  Draft 2: https://www.17lands.com/draft/a3a6a604b188480aac4d9542d0540b45  Draft 3: https://www.17lands.com/draft/3f59ae43edb34d309f83958a73c1c324

Chase and Nigel discuss their past weeks in gaming, D23 game announcements, the new Hearthstone Patch, and the impact of DMU.   Please leave a review of the show on iTunes! iTunes Page Join our Discord!: discord.gg/xECSW5K Facebook us: https://www.facebook.com/BrewmastersCast/ Tweet us: @BrewmastersCast, @Cosgrove_C, @NigelTheLondon, @Kindabigdeal44

 On this weeks episode, Daniel and Slothy finish talking  about Dominaria united. The set came out this weekend in its release format. DMU is MTGs 30 year Anniversary set and the set brings a ton of great options for people to play ! Join us on this weeks episode where we talk these new cards !  You can find all of our content atwww.intothe99.comIf you want to support the show make sure to check out our merch store and Patreon:Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Intothe99Merch Store: https://teespring.com/stores/intothe99Leave us a rating or review ! It really helps us get noticed on apple and spotify and thanks so much for listening!   Intro Music by:Track: ROY KNOX - Lost In SoundMusic Provided By: Magic RecordsListen To The Original: https://youtu.be/bafd5CsNk0MFanlink: https://fanlink.to/lis        Garden Basics with Farmer FredThe healthiest food you can eat is the food you grow yourself. We have the tips!Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify

Join Graham, Cameron and Wheeler on this weeks episode of TapTapConcede as they discuss Wheelers new position on the Commander Advisory Group, as well as their initial impressions of Dominaria United limited. Be sure to check out http://www.lrr.cc/nicknames to submit you DMU nickname ideas! This podcast is sponsored by Card Kingdom. Ordering from Card Kingdom? Tell them “LRR sent me, button please!” for a one inch button with a Magic goof on it. http://cardkingdom.com/EDSC Support LRR: http://patreon.com/loadingreadyrun Merch: https://store.loadingreadyrun.com Discord: https://discord.gg/lrr Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun Check out our other channels! Video Games: http://youtube.com/LRRVG Tabletop: http://youtube.com/LRRTT Magic the Gathering: http://youtube.com/LRRMTG Comedy: http://youtube.com/LoadingReadyRun Streams: http://youtube.com/LoadingReadyLive #Magic #TTC #dominariaunited

Join Graham, Cameron and Wheeler on this weeks episode of TapTapConcede as they discuss Wheelers new position on the Commander Advisory Group, as well as their initial impressions of Dominaria United limited. Be sure to check out http://www.lrr.cc/nicknames to submit you DMU nickname ideas! This podcast is sponsored by Card Kingdom. Ordering from Card Kingdom? Tell them “LRR sent me, button please!” for a one inch button with a Magic goof on it. http://cardkingdom.com/EDSC Support LRR: http://patreon.com/loadingreadyrun Merch: https://store.loadingreadyrun.com Discord: https://discord.gg/lrr Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun Check out our other channels! Video Games: http://youtube.com/LRRVG Tabletop: http://youtube.com/LRRTT Magic the Gathering: http://youtube.com/LRRMTG Comedy: http://youtube.com/LoadingReadyRun Streams: http://youtube.com/LoadingReadyLive #Magic #TTC #dominariaunited

Join Graham, Cameron and Wheeler on this weeks episode of TapTapConcede as they discuss Wheelers new position on the Commander Advisory Group, as well as their initial impressions of Dominaria United limited. Be sure to check out http://www.lrr.cc/nicknames to submit you DMU nickname ideas! This podcast is sponsored by Card Kingdom. Ordering from Card Kingdom? Tell them “LRR sent me, button please!” for a one inch button with a Magic goof on it. http://cardkingdom.com/EDSC Support LRR: http://patreon.com/loadingreadyrun Merch: https://store.loadingreadyrun.com Discord: https://discord.gg/lrr Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun Check out our other channels! Video Games: http://youtube.com/LRRVG Tabletop: http://youtube.com/LRRTT Magic the Gathering: http://youtube.com/LRRMTG Comedy: http://youtube.com/LoadingReadyRun Streams: http://youtube.com/LoadingReadyLive #Magic #TTC #dominariaunited

A bit of a grab bag as the crew discuss MTG Finance, DMU spoilers for Legacy and touch on why (or why not) Modern is a one deck format

The guys make an announcment, discuss their past weeks in gaming, the full DMU spoiler, BGs Season 2, and the SBB Monthly tournament.   Please leave a review of the show on iTunes! iTunes Page Join our Discord!: discord.gg/xECSW5K Facebook us: https://www.facebook.com/BrewmastersCast/ Tweet us: @BrewmastersCast, @Cosgrove_C, @NigelTheLondon, @Kindabigdeal44

James and Derek break down all the latest in fast moving card prices, the latest MTGO Modern and Pioneer results, Cards to Watch and tackle Ebay buying TCGPlayer, the latest DMU spoilers and the August Secret Lair Super Drop.