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In this episode of the Healthy, Wealthy, and Smart Podcast, host Dr. Karen Litzy welcomes visionary business strategist Kareen Walsh. With nearly two decades of experience, Kareen is an expert in optimizing performance across various industries, helping C-suite executives and entrepreneurs achieve significant returns on their investments. She shares her journey of becoming an entrepreneurial and business executive coach, emphasizing the importance of sustainable leadership and empowering others. Tune in as Kareen discusses her approach to overcoming fear, avoiding burnout, and turning visionary ideas into tangible results through her business, Revampologist, and the Hey Kareen app. Don't miss this insightful conversation, which offers valuable strategies for leaders seeking to elevate their business success.   Time Stamps:  [00:01:15] Transitioning from corporate to entrepreneurship. [00:05:12] Evolved mindset for business success. [00:09:05] Seven figures revenue strategy. [00:11:26] Embracing change and control. [00:15:32] Leadership qualities for team empowerment. [00:19:33] Onboarding process effectiveness. [00:25:26] Embracing vulnerability in leadership. [00:28:20] Leveraging time for business success. [00:32:55] Busyness versus business ownership. [00:34:10] Role identification for entrepreneurs. [00:40:04] Entrepreneurial challenges app. [00:45:04] Have more fun and be present. [00:45:35] Embracing daily gifts.   More About Kareen Walsh: Kareen Zahr Walsh is a visionary business and people's strategist, author, podcaster, investor, and a 7-figure business-building entrepreneur, making her the ultimate Business Healer. With nearly 2 decades of experience optimizing performance in the health & wellness, eCommerce, technology, and finance industries, running top-performing teams in complex environments, Kareen has a proven track record of helping C-Suite executives turn their vision of impact into action, often resulting in 10Xing their investment. Kareen is on a mission to help you integrate your inner business with your vision for external impact so that you can get out of your own way and stand in alignment. Resources from this Episode: Hey Kareen Website Free Gift For Listeners Kareen Walsh website Kareen on Instagram Kareen on LinkedIn   Jane Sponsorship Information: Book a one-on-one demo here Mention the code LITZY1MO for a free month   Follow Dr. Karen Litzy on Social Media: Karen's Twitter Karen's Instagram Karen's LinkedIn Subscribe to Healthy, Wealthy & Smart: YouTube Website Apple Podcast Spotify SoundCloud Stitcher iHeart Radio

As a business owner, your team can either help you thrive—or hold you back. In this episode of Retail Therapy,  retail entrepreneur Katie Dhuey joins Kareen Walsh to dive deep into what it really means to build a team that supports you, the business owner—not just the business.Katie shares what she's learned managing Affordable Treasures, a successful retail shop that's thriving without an e-commerce presence. From leadership language shifts (like eliminating “follow through”) to dealing with tough decisions like terminations and change management, this episode explores how the right team can give you space to grow, lead, and breathe.If you're a retail founder, team leader, or just trying to create a culture of real support—this one's for you.[0:17] Why your team needs to support *you*, not just your business  [4:35] Behind the scenes of Katie's brick-and-mortar success story  [6:11] The bold choice to grow without e-commerce  [7:00] Why “follow through” is the wrong language for team leadership  [12:15] Using the tools you already have to build efficiency  [18:20] Navigating terminations with empathy and leadership  [27:50] Why redundancy planning is essential for sustainable success  [28:53] Communicating the “why” behind organizational change  [32:49] How to proactively address team conflict before it escalates  Get all of the resources in the show notes on our website: https://rootedinretail.com/episodes/building-a-team-that-has-your-back/Join the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation Get your ticket to EVOLVE 2025 - $200 off when you use the code rooted Join our newsletter for all the latest marketing news for retailers Show off your super fandom by getting your Rooted in Retail Merch!

Trust is everything in the collectibles industry—whether you're buying, selling, or running a multi-location business. In this episode of Retail Therapy, we dive into how Jimmy and Jonathan built Roadshow Cards into a trusted, coast-to-coast brand that's redefining the card-collecting experience.  With four stores in four different states, their biggest challenge isn't just growth—it's consistency. How do you ensure every customer has the same great experience? How do you build a strong leadership team across locations? Business strategist Kareen Walsh shares key strategies on scaling with integrity, strengthening team culture, and making sure your brand values shine through at every touchpoint.  If you're in retail, collectibles, or any business that relies on trust and consistency, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you grow with confidence.  [4:09] The story behind Roadshow Cards and their unique business model  [7:55] How to create a strong, supportive team culture  [12:17] Maintaining trust and consistency across multiple locations  [12:43] Why understanding your internal brand is key to success  [14:47] Leadership strategies that set the right tone for growth  [16:56] How to ensure your management team upholds your business standards [20:01] Encouraging open communication to strengthen team trust  [23:40] Innovative revenue streams in the collectibles market  [33:23] Making your business agenda clear, actionable, and consistent  [49:50] The impact of Roadshow Cards' expansion and customer trust  Get all of the resources in the show notes on our website: https://rootedinretail.com/episodes/building-trust-scaling-success-how-roadshow-cards-is-revolutionizing-the-collectibles-industry/Join the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation Get your ticket to EVOLVE 2025 - $200 off when you use the code rooted Join our newsletter for all the latest marketing news for retailers Show off your super fandom by getting your Rooted in Retail Merch!

Kareen Walsh, Founder & CEO, Revampologist, joins the Entrepreneurs United Podcast to discuss leveraging businesses as assets, strategic clarity, and exit strategies. Kareen discusses her innovative Hey Kareen® App, which uses AI to provide business consulting and coaching. She also elaborates on her EVOLVE methodology that helps entrepreneurs continuously improve their ventures. Learn about the importance of having a life plan linked with your business plan, and discover how to identify and excel in your innate entrepreneurial role.00:00 Introduction to Business as an Asset00:33 Meet Kareen Zahr Walsh00:53 Strategic Clarity for Entrepreneurs04:03 The Assessment Toolkit05:00 The EVOLVE Methodology08:59 The Hey Kareen App17:44 The CEO Conundrum Quiz22:04 Understanding the Creator, Operator, and Entrepreneur Roles23:16 Coaching Business Partners: A Case Study24:11 Recruiting and Placement for Business Efficiency24:44 The Owner Role and Wealth Creation26:02 Operational Efficiency and Financial Strategies26:52 The EVOLVE Acronym and Exit Strategies28:45 Building a Legacy with Hey Kareen30:08 Integrating AI in Business Coaching32:43 Final Thoughts and Resources33:34 Hosts' Reflections and Key Takeaways

Welcome back to another episode of The Richer Geek Podcast, and today we are joined by business strategist and 7-figure entrepreneur mentor Kareen Walsh! Kareen shares how she transitioned from self-employed consultant to scaling a thriving business that runs on just 10% of her time—while generating massive ROI. She reveals the keys to shifting from a "busyness" trap to true business ownership, leveraging your zone of genius, and implementing smart delegation strategies. Discover Kareen's EVOLVE methodology for sustainable growth, the power of automation and AI in scaling, and her groundbreaking Hey Kareen® AI App, designed to provide on-demand coaching. Learn how to identify your role as a CEO—whether you're a Creator, Entrepreneur, or Operator—and build a business that aligns with your vision while setting yourself up for long-term success. In this episode, we're discussing… Busy-ness vs. Business: Many entrepreneurs are trapped in "busy-ness" rather than actually running a business. The key is shifting from doing everything yourself to strategically leading and scaling. The Power of Delegation: If a task isn't worth your time financially or energetically, delegate it. Entrepreneurs often resist letting go, but leadership means oversight, not micromanagement. Scaling with Strategy: Kareen challenged herself to reach seven figures using only 10% of her time. The shift? Thinking like a business owner rather than a service provider. The Fulfillment Factor Exercise: List and rank tasks by how much they fulfill you (1-10). Keep tasks above an 8, delegate anything below a 7, and eliminate tasks under a 5. Leveraging AI & Automation: Entrepreneurs don't have to do everything manually. Automation, AI, and virtual assistants can free up time to focus on high-impact work. Coaching & Mentorship is Essential: Even successful business leaders continue learning and hiring mentors to gain perspective and grow. Scaling Impact with Innovation: Kareen created Hey Kareen® AI App to serve more people without stretching herself too thin, showing that growth comes from innovation, not just hard work.      Resources from Kareen Walsh     LinkedIn | Instagram | Hey Kareen®      Resources from Mike and Nichole     Gateway Private Equity Group |  Nic's guide | Franchise With Bob

Have you ever felt like you're living a life that doesn't quite fit anymore—like you've been wearing a mask, adding layer after layer, until you don't even recognize yourself? That's exactly what Kareen Walsh realized before making the boldest pivot of her life.  She takes us behind the scenes of her massive transformation—leaving a marriage, restructuring her business, and stepping into an entirely new chapter with total trust in herself. We talk about everything—the emotional and strategic side of major life changes, the fears that try to hold us back, and how to take action even when the path isn't clear.  Kareen lays out the exact mindset shifts and steps she took to create freedom in her life and business. Plus, she shares her latest adventure, why she built an AI version of herself (yes, really), and how she helps entrepreneurs scale with clarity. If you're craving more alignment in your life or business, this episode is your permission slip to go for it. Hit play and let's keep evolving, together.  "Don't let the limitations of others become your own. You can always be where you are today." ~ Kareen Walsh In this Episode: - Navigating divorce amidst entrepreneurial challenges - Emotional and physical impact of change - Strategic decisions and emotional balance during divorce - Embracing change as an opportunity for personal growth - Guiding other entrepreneurs through business pivots - Setting and achieving goals: overcoming doubts and fear - Kareen's new adventure after divorce - Thoughts on dating and new relationships - Future plans and business coaching - Introducing the Hey Kareen App About Kareen Walsh: Kareen Walsh is a visionary business strategist, author, podcaster, investor, and 7-8 figure entrepreneurial guide. With nearly two decades of experience, she excels in optimizing performance across industries, helping C-Suite executives and entrepreneurs turn their vision into tangible results, often achieving 10 times a return on their investment. Through her business Revampologist and the Hey Kareen App, Kareen provides consulting and coaching to help leaders overcome fear, avoid burnout, and achieve their ultimate vision. Kareen believes she is a conduit to help you manifest your vision and make your business an asset to your life. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalsh/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CoachKareenWalsh Website: https://www.revampologist.com/  Download The Hey Kareen App:  https://heykareen.com/  Where to find me: IG: https://www.instagram.com/jen_gottlieb/    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jen_gottlieb     Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jenleahgottlieb    Website: https://jengottlieb.com/    My business: https://www.superconnectormedia.com/     YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jen_gottlieb

Running a successful business goes beyond day-to-day operations—it's about leadership, vision, and leveraging the right frameworks to scale. In today's episode, we're joined by Maureen and business strategist/therapist Kareen Walsh to explore how to elevate your business and lead with purpose.  Maureen shares her retail journey, from early successes to learning how to balance control and leadership after scaling her business. Kareen brings her expertise in conscious leadership and explains how using the EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) framework can help business owners feel more in control and aligned with their vision.  We'll also cover how to adjust your management style, when to let go of control, and how to create a leadership strategy that works for your business at any stage of growth. [2:33] Introducing Kareen  [4:23] Maureen's retail journey  [9:19] Becoming a visionary leader for your team  [12:10] Using the EOS framework to scale your business  [15:58] Lessons in letting go of control  [16:57] Balancing leadership styles  [30:16] Leveraging frameworks while maintaining your unique business approach  Get all of the resources in the show notes on our website: https://rootedinretail.com/episodes/mastering-visionary-leadership-in-business-featuring-maureen-kareen-walsh/Join the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation Get your ticket to EVOLVE 2025 - $200 off when you use the code rooted Join our newsletter for all the latest marketing news for retailers Show off your super fandom by getting your Rooted in Retail Merch!

On today's episode of Small Business School, I am so excited to chat with Kareen Walsh, a recovering people pleaser turned alignment activist and seven-figure entrepreneur. Kareen shares her journey of integrating life and business, breaking free from burnout, and designing a business that fuels her life. If you're looking to scale your business with balance and intention or you just need a nudge to start asking bigger questions, this episode is for you!Topics Covered:Why aligning your business and life is essential for avoiding burnout and achieving fulfillment.Kareen's transition from corporate to entrepreneurship and her “evolve methodology” for scaling.Building a seven-figure business in six months while working only 10% of the time.The importance of detaching from your business and designing clear exits or growth strategies.Kareen shares how she built her consultancy by leveraging relationships and asking existing clients, "What else can I provide for you?"Exploring the importance of understanding what freedom looks like and ensuring your goals align with your values.How asking the right questions can accelerate growth.Reflecting on who you need to become to lead your business in a way that feels authentic and sustainable.Business growth isn't about having all the answers but knowing where to seek them out!Connect with Kareen:InstagramLinkedInDownload the ‘Hey Kareen' app: Your entrepreneurial guide on the go!Monthly FREE Retrospective CallStaci's Links:Instagram. Website.The School for Small Business Podcast is a proud member of the Female Alliance Media. To learn more about Female Alliance Media and how they are elevating female voices or how they can support your show, visit femalealliancemedia.ca.Head over to my website https://www.stacimillard.com/ to grab your FREE copy of my Profit Playbook and receive 30 innovative ways you can add more profit to your business AND the first step towards implementing these ideas in your business!

Running a business isn't just about profits and products—it's about purpose, passion, and, sometimes, pivoting when things don't go as planned. In today's Retail Therapy episode, we're diving into all of that with two incredible guests: Andrea Spresser, a seasoned retailer, and Kareen Walsh, a business strategist and therapist.Andrea shares her journey of growing her store since 2009, tripling her revenue after relocating in 2019, and navigating the challenges when her manager retired. She's now back in the driver's seat, managing her business, but grappling with the big question: “Is this what I want to do long-term?”On the other side, Kareen Walsh brings her expertise in conscious leadership and sustainable business growth. She helps entrepreneurs align their business strategies with their core values, avoid burnout, and reconnect with their *why*. Together, we explore how to balance personal wellness with professional success, the importance of choosing a business that aligns with your purpose, and how to stay connected to yourself while growing your brand.Whether you're a business owner, an aspiring entrepreneur, or someone feeling a bit off in your current journey, this episode is packed with insights to help you realign and refresh your perspective.[2:47] Meet Andrea and Kareen: Retailer and Therapist with unique insights  [6:46] Andrea's retail journey: From launching in 2009 to tripling revenue in 2019  [11:17] Facing an “off year” and the awakening that followed  [14:32] The power of redoing your front window (literally and metaphorically)  [16:12] Why choosing the right business matters  [18:09] Redefining the role women play in entrepreneurship  [19:24] How to sustain your personal wellness while growing a business  [20:20] When it's time to change your business trajectory  [26:00] Picking the strategy that works for you  [28:08] Hiring operators to handle the business so you can focus on growth  [29:52] Reconnecting with yourself—and your business—in a meaningful way  Get all of the resources in the show notes on our website: https://rootedinretail.com/episodes/reconnecting-with-your-business-and-yourself-retail-therapy-session-with-andrea-of-all-about-u/Join the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation Get your ticket to EVOLVE 2025 - $200 off when you use the code rooted Join our newsletter for all the latest marketing news for retailers Show off your super fandom by getting your Rooted in Retail Merch!

Ever wondered what it really takes to scale from six to seven figures in business, without burning out or losing your passion?  In this episode of Life After Corporate, host Debra Boulanger dives deep into the elusive 'messy middle' with guest Kareen Walsh, discussing mindset shifts, leveraging AI, and business models that drive sustainable success. From Kareen's personal journey scaling her business to her innovative “Hey Kareen” app, this conversation is packed with actionable insights for any entrepreneur stuck between 250k and the million-dollar mark.  If you're ready to transform your business model and achieve lasting growth, this episode is a must-listen.    [00:05- 11:24] Creating Sustainable Business Models   Importance of multiple revenue streams for long-term growth. Leveraging personal intellectual property (IP) to create evergreen products. Passive income opportunities through referrals and affiliate sales. Community-building as a sustainable revenue model.     [11:24 -19:04]  The Hey Kareen App: A Business Innovation Case Study   Inspiration behind creating the Hey Kareen app. The app's role in scaling coaching and consulting services. Utilizing AI to replicate coaching advice and consolidate content. MVP development approach and lessons learned from technical integration.     [19:05 - 28:17]  Mindset Shifts for Breaking Through Revenue Plateaus     Evaluating what works well in a business before scaling. Differentiating between running a business and earning personal income. Identifying personal strengths and roles as a business leader. Importance of detaching personal involvement to scale effectively.   [28:18 - 35:14] The CEO Role and Building a Scalable Business   The importance of defining your role as a creator, entrepreneur, or operator. Delegation and team-building as critical elements for growth. Identifying gaps and aligning roles for business scalability. Creating space for innovation by retiring outdated business practices.   Resources Mentioned Hey Kareen App: https://heykareen.com/ Mighty Networks: https://www.mightynetworks.com/ Books: Mindset, community engagement, and other tools available on Amazon via Kareen's author page. Connect with Kareen Walsh Website: https://heykareen.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corinne-walsh Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/corinnezwalsh   Ready to turn insights into action? Don't just listen—join the movement! The Life After Corporate Community (https://lifeaftercorporate.com/community) is where ambitious women like you connect, collaborate, and get the strategies, tools, and high-level support to grow a thriving, profitable business. Join us now and start making the powerful connections that will elevate your success!   Go to https://lifeaftercorporate.com/podcast  for all episodes 169. Lisa Durante's Strategy for Mastering Your Content Marketing Plan! 153  A 3-Step Guide to Skyrocketing Your Income 137 Marketing, Management, and Metrics: The Keys to Consistent Success Tweetable Quotes: “I truly believe your business is an asset to leverage for the life that you want”….  Kareen Walsh on Leveraging your business    "The Hey Kareen app is leveraging AI, and that is membership based similar to, like, a ChatGPT, but now you have a business coach on the go with you, where you're just paying that monthly membership to have the access." Kareen Walsh on her new app “Hey Kareen”   **TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST**   SUBSCRIBE & LEAVE A FIVE-STAR REVIEW and share this podcast to other growing entrepreneurs!  Get weekly tips on how to create more money and meaning doing work you love and be one of the many growing entrepreneurs in our community. Connect with me on LinkedIn; https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12656341/  or on Instagram or our website at www.lifeaftercorporatepodcast.com . 

Want to learn how to stop trading hours for dollars? Join us as we chat with Kareen Walsh, a visionary business strategist, author, and podcaster who helps entrepreneurs turn their vision into 7 figure businesses.  Learn how she cloned herself with AI, leveraging cutting-edge technology to create an app that delivers her coaching expertise on-the-go—the innovative Hey Kareen App!  In our latest episode she joins our host Denise Cagan to share her insights on: Breaking free from the "trading time for money" trap. Developing a CEO mindset to scale your business. Building a conscious business that aligns with your values. Overcoming fear and avoiding burnout. About Your Host DCA Virtual Business Support President, Denise Cagan, has been working with small businesses for over 20 years. She has served on the boards of professional organizations such as Business Leaders of Charlotte (BLOC) and the National Association of Women Business Owners Charlotte (NAWBO). Denise is also a graduate of the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Business Program, which is a program for small businesses that links learning to action for growth-oriented entrepreneurs. Recognized as a facilitator, problem solver, and builder, Denise enjoys speaking to business groups about social media for small businesses and motivating remote and work-from-home (WFH) teams. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Quality Systems Management from James Madison University. With extensive experience in outsourcing solutions that provide administrative, creative, marketing, and website support, she is able to help other small businesses grow and thrive. Connect with Denise DCA Virtual Business Support website. View and listen to Podcasts with Denise Cagan. LinkedIn

Business Growth Strategies: Effective Communication With Kareen Walsh I am your host Denise Griffitts and today on Your Partner In Success Radio, I'm excited to introduce Kareen Walsh - a dynamic business strategist who turns entrepreneurial vision into tangible results. With 20 years of experience advising businesses from startups to trillion-dollar corporations, Kareen has created the Hey Kareen® AI App, a groundbreaking platform delivering expert coaching directly to entrepreneurs' smartphones. Her technological innovation represents more than an app - it's a comprehensive system designed to empower entrepreneurs to turn business vision into executable strategies, redefining how professional guidance is delivered in the digital age.Kareen's mission is simple: help business leaders bridge ambitious vision with executable strategy. As an author, podcaster, and investor, Kareen provides more than advice - she offers a comprehensive roadmap for conscious, sustainable business growth. Her practical approach helps entrepreneurs develop smarter strategies and make more informed business decisions.Connect with Kareen Walsh: Website | Hey Kareen App | Take the CEO Quiz | LinkedIn  We appreciate you tuning in to this episode of Your Partner In Success Radio with Host Denise Griffitts. If you enjoyed what you heard, please consider subscribing, rating, and leaving a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support helps us reach more listeners and create even better content!Stay ConnectedWebsite: Your Partner In Success RadioEmail: mail@yourofficeontheweb.com

Send me a text!Welcome back to Community! In today's episode Kristina sits down with Kareen Zahr Walsh, a powerhouse business advisor, coach, healer and investor who's helping entrepreneurs build sustainable, aligned businesses, with their exit in mind.In their conversation Kareen shares her incredible entrepreneurial journey, lessons from hitting glass ceilings, and how she learned to build a life she loves while scaling to success. Together they also discuss the transformative power of networking, setting boundaries, the importance of  tracking progress, making big investments, and creating your own communities.Kareen's insights remind us that growth doesn't happen in isolation. It's about learning from every experience, finding the right people to grow with, and giving yourself permission to thrive. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, this conversation is packed with wisdom you won't want to miss!Connect with Kareen!InstagramDownload the ‘Hey Kareen' app: Your entrepreneurial guide on the go!Monthly FREE Retrospective CallFREE SLP Accelerator ProgramConnect with Thrive Accounting for all your small business finance needs! InstagramWebsiteFor Your Information:• Host your podcast on Buzzsprout!• Text JOIN to 8550908-4688 for social media tips right to your phone• Join our favourite scheduling platform Later• FLODESK Affiliate Code | 50% off your first year!Don't forget to come say hi to us on Instagram @thesocialsnippet, join the Weekly Snippet or follow us on any social media platform!Website . Instagram . Facebook . TikTok . Linkedin

What if the limitations holding you back aren't even your own? In today's episode, I interview Kareen Walsh, a visionary business strategist, author, podcaster, and "business healer." Kareen shares her journey of breaking through limitations, embracing change, and helping entrepreneurs align their personal values with their business vision. From hitting a glass ceiling early in her career to building a thriving consultancy, Kareen highlights the importance of clarity, intentionality, and aligned action in achieving sustainable growth. This episode is packed with actionable insights for entrepreneurs looking to grow while staying true to their values. Don't miss it!You will learn:Kareen's emphasis on the power of identifying and living by your core personal values to create a business that resonates with your true purpose.Why you should break large, long-term visions into smaller, manageable 90-day goals and actionable steps to maintain focus and avoid overwhelm.How to discover your unique role in your business using Kareen's CEO framework (Creator, Entrepreneur, Operator) to operate from your zone of genius.Why you should not hesitate to ask for help or seek resources when you face limitations or overwhelm. Questions can be the key to unlocking solutions.Steps to shift from a push energy to a pull energy by designing a business and life that excites and fulfills you.CONNECT WITH KAREEN:Website: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/Instagram: @kareenzwalsh @CoachKareenWalshTake the CEO Conundrum Quiz: https://heykareen.com/ceoDownload the Hey Kareen app: https://heykareen.com/CONNECT WITH HOLLY:• ASK ME ANYTHING: www.hollymariehaynes.com/chat• WATCH THE EPISODE AND BONUS CONTENT ON YOUTUBE: www.youtube.com/@hollymariehaynes• TAKE THE CEO WEEK CHALLENGE: https://www.hollymariehaynes.com/ceoweek• JOIN THE CLUB: https://www.hollymariehaynes.com/ctrclub• WORK WITH HOLLY: www.hollymariehaynes.com/workwithme

Lesley Logan introduces a new segment honoring inspirational role models and shares uplifting community wins. She also spotlights two community members who found fulfillment by uplifting their clients. Tune in for a reminder that progress need not be grand, that celebrating small victories fuels your journey, and that showing yourself compassion can empower growth all year long.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Introducing a new segment to honor inspiring role models.Recognizing personal accomplishments, no matter how small.Celebrating clients' progress as a reflection of your guidance.Overcoming disappointment by focusing on deeper, genuine impact.Gifting oneself with love, strength, and compassion.Episode References/Links:Margret Chola - https://beitpod.com/margaretcholaFemale Quotient - https://www.instagram.com/femalequotientCHANI Deck of Plenty - https://chani.com/products/the-deck-of-plenty If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hello, Be It babe. Welcome to a new year, our first FYF of the year. And it's only a few days into this year, and you might be like, oh my gosh, I have to have the FYF already. Do not pressure yourself to make something grandiose. Did you get up? Did you brush your teeth? Did you look at the sunshine like those are all things that you can celebrate, because it's hard out there. Every day, you're gonna have an emotional roller coaster of things, and so it's so important. That's why this episode exists. It's Fuck Yeah Friday. It exists to celebrate what you did do. That's what it's here for. That's what's here to remind you. And I'm adding a tiny segment to this, I promise. I'll still keep these episodes nice and quick. You can hear my wins. That's true. I also just want to highlight like people who've inspired the fuck out of me, like women, specifically, who've inspired me, who may or may not be on this podcast, who knows, maybe they'll find out that I've shouted them out. So we're gonna kick off our year with someone who I learned about from an Instagram account called Female Quotient. Her name is Margret Chola, an 85 year old grandmother from a rural village in Zambia has become an icon of reinvention and intergenerational collaboration. With the support of her granddaughter, Diana Kalezhi (Dee), a New York City based stylist Margret, has captured the world's attention. Their bond and collaboration is a reflection of the confidence, creativity, and courage it takes to embrace individuality. Dee shared the shoot was impromptu and very low stakes, as these images were simply meant to live on my Instagram page. Little did she know that those posts would leave an impact on the way we view beauty and self-expression at any age. It's a reminder that no matter where you start, your story can ripple far beyond your expectations. So I love this. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll have to click the Instagram link, but I'll just show you like, look at Margret, freaking gorgeous woman. So it's this 85 year old grandma from Zambia, and she is wearing every color with gloves and fabulous pineapple crystal glasses, and she's just got the smile on her face gorgeous bracelet, like you just want to have it. And then if you keep going, she's got this hat that I dream to have. Maybe someday it won't even fit in the car, but my gosh, it's stunning with her glasses and her shoes, like and her shoes, oh my gosh, I love this, because it's an introgen, like granddaughter and grandmother created this thing, and they had low expectations, and it turned out that it was like inspiring women everywhere. And honestly, like, the pictures keep going. And I just want to now meet Margret, and I'm so inspired by her. If you're hearing this today going, why the heck am I learning about Margret? Go click the link, because you may need to be inspired. Doesn't matter what your age is, doesn't matter what your body looks like. You can put together some fabulous things that that have a ripple effect, as they said, beyond where you live. You can inspire people. She has inspired me. I think I'm gonna go get dressed up for today, literally, holy moly, I'm gonna step it up a notch because of this. So that is our new segment, shouting out someone who inspired me, who caught my attention, and I love that she's with her granddaughter, Dee, and I love that they're affecting people around the world. You could be doing that too. And now let's talk about you. Let's share the wins that you have. So here we go. First up, we have Heather Ingram. She is an eLevate grad, an Agency member. She's done an OPC workshop for us. I absolutely love this woman, and she wrote fab webinar with Kareen Walsh today on becoming a magnet for money. Sign me up for that. Also just finished a fantastic session with my favorite private client, who does her homework three times a week, and the progress in her Pilates practice is effing inspiring. As I watched her move through her flow today, I actually had a proud moment when I caught my own reflection in the mirror, made eye contact with myself and silently said to myself, you did this for her. You helped her get here. You're pretty effing great. You are. I always in my sessions with a standing roll down arm circle and then reach around to pat themselves on their back for their energy effort. Great session. Give themselves some love. And today was the first time I gave love to myself for what I'm doing for my clients. Yes, tooting my horn. Heather, thank you for inspiring us all to toot our own horns. We should all do it more often. How freaking cool is that I love that you actually saw yourself and like actually had that moment with yourself, because it's so true. Yes, she's doing her homework, but you managed to inspire her to do that. You chose these exercises for her. You set these things up so that she could have the success that she's having. So way to go, girl. It's like another collaboration. This is another collaboration. Okay? Dana Karen, who's an Agency member, she wrote, wow, my heart is so incredibly full right now. I am on day two of seven-day challenge I'm running for getting active and chronic pain called meant to move after my book. I've been busting my ass for the past four weeks or so leading up to this challenge with IG lives and new freebies and tons of promos, it was so exhausted by the time it even started. I was disappointed at first to just get four items, because I'm making, like, $2 an hour, but I have to say that things are going so well. So far, I just got off two back to back coaching calls with people telling me how grateful they are for the safe space that the challenge created and how happy they feel to have guidance and support to get going. The second client said to me, the moving part is just a bonus. What I needed was a safe container to put my grief and feelings about movement and where it was okay to be starting from scratch, and you gave me that. I mean that sentiment right there is exactly why I wrote the book, why I created my first paid program in 2022, and why I made this challenge. I've been trying to figure out the correct formula for years without success, and I feel like I'm finally hitting on something that might actually work if I can figure out how to find my people. I just feel so fulfilled knowing that this is working for someone, and it made my whole month. Dana, way to go, babe, way to go. You know, I think we all look at people and maybe even look at this podcast, and you go, oh my God, she must have had, like all the listeners, as soon as she hit play, whatever, whatever you hit to upload the episode. I don't know what my team does. No, you have to work for it. And yes, there are sometimes moments where these flash in the pan like everything aligns, and it works out really, really well. But typically it doesn't work like that. Typically those stars, they die fast. What really is the truth is that every single person out there that you are seeing share their gifts and change people's lives have been doing it like a duck on the water, just like looking so smooth, but underneath they're just like, kicking their feet, kicking, kick, kick, kicking, you know, just like, so, so much. So I just so appreciate you sharing with us the hard work that you went through. DK, and then also that you're feeling so fulfilled. And so I'm in day two. The money will come. It just will. But you're changing people's lives, and you're learning about what they need to hear from you. So you can keep doing that. And congrats on your amazing book. All right, a quick win of mine. So we are not even done with this tour. I'm still on it. I'm still on it, and what I'm gonna say is, my win is that I'm having the best time. I really am. I'm so honored and so grateful and so blessed. And that's a win, you know, because it'd be so easy for me to sit here and focus on, like, the times that the schedule didn't work correctly, or we hit traffic, or, you know, something happened. I mean, one summer tour, the dogs jumped out of the van to run into a store that Brad was in, you know, so the chaos can happen. But I am going to say is, with about five days left on this tour and only a couple stops left to go, I would do it again. I would do it again. Really, really would. So thank you, if you came out on the tour, thank you for doing that. We will announce our West Coast summer tour soon, but not so soon, because I've gotta, I gotta relax. Gotta take some time. Okay, let me leave you with a mantra. The last couple years, I've gotten the mantras offline. Now because you guys have been so generous and gifted me so many mantras, I'm either getting them off of Instagram, or I have a couple decks that I am using. And so today, it's from the CHANI deck of plenty. No sponsorship here. I just like her. I send my past self love, I send my future self strength, I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmation. I send my past self love. Let's do that. I send my future self strength. Take a moment. I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmations. If you need a million of them, just Google top affirmations for 2025, right, and just keep reading them. Here one more time. I send my past self love, I send my future self strength. I shower my current self with a million compassion affirmations. You guys, we've had many, many guests on talk about affirmations and putting Post-its up and putting them where you can see them. May this be your sign that you do that. Maybe that's your win. And if it is, send it in to us, so we can shout you out on the next FYF. Have an amazing day. And until next time, be it till you see it. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 10:14  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 10:19  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 10:24  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 10:31  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 10:34  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Scaling a business can feel like standing at the edge of a cliff, unsure of the next step to take. The sheer number of decisions—hiring, processes, budgets—can quickly become overwhelming. It's hard to know where to focus when everything seems equally urgent. Finding clarity often comes from stepping back and identifying what will truly drive growth, rather than trying to do it all at once. Kareen Walsh is a business strategist, author of BE A BADASS: Six Tools to Up-Level Your Life, and host of the Your Badass Journey podcast. Today, Kareen discusses overcoming limitations, asking for help, and embracing a growth mindset. She highlights the importance of setting clear goals, breaking them into steps, and making adjustments along the way. Kareen also shares her work on the AI-based Hey Kareen app, offering personalized entrepreneurial guidance, and addressing challenges in hiring, performance management, and leading from your strengths and zone of genius. Stay tuned! Resources You NEED the results of the C.E.O. | Take the Conundrum Quiz! Hey Kareen: Your Business Coach in Your Pocket. Follow Kareen Walsh on Facebook Connect with Kareen Walsh on LinkedIn Subscribe to the Your Badass Journey hosted by Kareen Walsh on Apple Podcasts Get a copy of BE A BADASS: Six Tools to Up-Level Your Life by Kareen Walsh on Amazon

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Lesley and Brad revisit some of their favorite business-inspired moments, offering practical insights for entrepreneurs and non-entrepreneurs alike. From taking a pause and visualizing your goals to leveraging your strengths and navigating challenges, these timeless tips will inspire you to align with your true self and achieve meaningful progress.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Taking a pause to reflect on what's working and what's not.Using mental imagery for clarify and bring your goals closer.Recognizing and leveraging your strengths in a balanced way.Understanding how business challenges grow alongside your journey.Episode References/Links:Ep. 27: Kareen Walsh - https://beitpod.com/ep27Retrospective Exercise - https://www.kareenwalsh.com/retrospectiveKareen's IG – https://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalshEp. 99: Chinwe Onyeagoro - https://beitpod.com/ep99Chinwe Onyeagoro Website: https://pocketsuite.io/Ep. 155: Kevin Kepple - https://beitpod.com/ep155Kevin Kepple Website - https://kevinkepple.us/Ep. 232: Ripley Rader - https://beitpod.com/232Ripley Rader Website: https://ripleyrader.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Kareen Walsh 0:00  Just give yourself a moment to ask yourself exactly where you are right now, what's working for you, what's not working for you, and figure out what you really want to be doing and come up with a plan that aligns who you truly are against it all.Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It rewind episode which happens, this one's happening, drop on Christmas Eve, for those of you who celebrate, it is the holiday season. And if you are just defining yourself, taking a little extra time in the bathroom or a little extra time in the bedroom, or somehow you're walking your dogs a couple extra times in a day, I see you and you keep doing that. You are allowed to.Brad Crowell 1:21  Why would you be doing that? Lesley Logan 1:22  Because everybody needs more space than they get during the holidays.Brad Crowell 1:25  A little more space during the holidays. No words. Lesley Logan 1:27  Do not feel bad about it. Do not feel like you should be guilty or there's something wrong with you. Actually, we all should be given more permission to take extra time that we need, wherever we are. Maybe you have to rush to the grocery store for one thing, and the line's just really long, and that's okay, you can listen to this episode. Lesley Logan 1:44  So today, our rewind happens to do with our favorite biz episodes. And of course, like all the other rewinds, we can't possibly put all of our favorite business episodes, and you're and you don't have to be a business person to get anything at like, get something out of this. Actually.Brad Crowell 1:56  Yeah, there's a lot to get out of this if you don't have a business.Lesley Logan 1:58  We picked are applicable to not just business, they're applicable to life. So please listen, because I think you're gonna get a lot out of it. So we're going to talk about showing up as your truest version of yourself, or taking a pause, we'll talk about visualization. We're going to talk about your strengths, and now if you are in the basement or the balcony, and we're going to talk about how challenges grow as your business, or AKA, you grow. So wherever we create business, you can just think me, if you are not someone who works for yourself. So here we go. Lesley Logan 1:58  All right, so we're going to take you back to Episode 27 so we've had Kareen Walsh on recently. If you have, if you're a new listener, you've been listening to the last 100 episodes she's been on recently. We actually had her on Episode 27 and one of, it's just a fabulous, fabulous episode. We actually dive into showing up as the truest version of yourself, which is, by the way, one of the fucking hardest things to do, can we just like acknowledge that showing up as your true self can be scary AF.Brad Crowell 2:58  It can be scary AF. Also, I think we never want to be the person that sticks their head above the crowd. Well, at least we're told we shouldn't. But like we were talking about during the intro here, it's okay to take a pause. Okay, and Kareen talks about that, too. So if you do need to step outside, take a walk around the block, whatever, during this holiday season, that's okay to do. You're allowed to do that. It is important to take time for yourself, and it's also important to take time away from your business. Taking a pause even from the thing that we're focused on 24/7 is healthy. Lesley Logan 3:29  And by the way, for those of you who work for someone else, it's okay to take a time away from your job, and if it's not okay, if you live in the States, we have got to start, you know, taking some of our time back because people in Europe, in some countries in Europe, is actually seen as a bad thing if you respond to an email around dinner time. So I just think we can get some inspiration from that. Brad Crowell 3:49  Yeah, love it. Okay, here we go. Kareen Walsh 3:51  To be it to like, in a way, where I would add is yourself like it's, being it is truly showing up in your truest version of yourself, and so the biggest tip, if you haven't paused for a while, is to take a pause and use my retrospective exercise, but just give yourself moment to ask yourself exactly where you are right now, what's working for you, what's not working for you, and figure out what you really want to be doing and come up with a plan that aligns who you truly are against it all, because it'll always be out there. Whatever it is you want to achieve or bring into your world is out there for you to have. You just need to pause to see it sometimes and evaluate the direction you need to go in in order to step into it and really make it happen for you right now.Lesley Logan 4:47  That was Episode 27 and if you want to do Kareen's retrospective exercise, we have linked it in the show notes for you, so go check it out. I actually do this retrospective on Fridays, especially after a busy week, because sometimes you can forget what you did, and you could forget that you like actually made magic happen. So I love her retrospective exercise. Brad and I do it with Kareen often, actually. So it's really, really cool. So get that in the show notes.Brad Crowell 5:11  Okay, next up, we got Episode 99 Onto Plan Z or Zed with Chinwe Onyeagoro.Lesley Logan 5:19  Do you know that when I was on my flight to New Zealand, I was asking for the Wi-Fi link, and he was saying Zed. He was saying like, oh, the password is, whatever, 1-2-3, A-B-C, Zed. And I was like, like, Z-E-D? And he goes, no, Zed. And I was like, Z-E-A-D? And he goes, no, the letter Z, and he dropped his New Zealand accent to just say it, and it's an American I was like, oh, got it. It's a letter.Brad Crowell 5:48  Okay, yes, visualization, and also who you want to be surrounded by or interacting with. Lesley Logan 5:55  Yeah, let's get in. Brad Crowell 5:56  Okay.Chinwe Onyeagoro 5:57  I think the first thing that I would say is visualize like there's so much that you can do to just change how you feel about what you're doing right now, just by visualizing what you want to be feeling like when you hit your goals, who you want to be surrounded by and interacting with, and what you want your day to be like, right? And so visualize it, because that is something you can control right now. What is happening is when you visualize it, the world, the universe conspires to help you to get there, right, because it's top of mind. So like, every decision you're making is taking into consideration that visual, that feeling, and if you just will it into being. And so I would just say visualization is huge. And if you cut out magazine articles, cut out, like, do whatever you need to do to, like, get in that zone and stay there. Lesley Logan 6:46  Okay, so that was Episode 99, I highly recommend it. Listen, she's an inspiration. She's kind of a badass. I love how she got into what she's doing. Okay, now we're gonna go into Episode 155. Are you in the basement or in the balcony? Kevin Keppel, who, by the way, has almost as good as name as me. But I so enjoyed this person. He is really awesome and kind of going back to like Amy Ledin's inner bitch and her boss, like, this is another way to look at how you're talking to yourself. I don't know, this guy's about Strength Finders, Brad, and that's one of your favorite things to talk about. Brad Crowell 7:20  It's true. I'm all about it, you know, the high level here, basement or the balcony, your strengths can also be your weaknesses. And it's difficult and challenging to have that third party perspective of yourself to discern, am I in the balcony of my strength, or am I in the basement of my strength? And Kevin goes in-depth about this here, and I found it really helpful. So let's take a listen. Kevin Kepple 7:46  One of the cool things about strengths, it's like your natural sources of energy, and energies can be indifferent, right? Like it's power, it's our natural power. But you know, gravity is super powerful. You know, you and I don't float away to the moon or whatever, right? Thanks to gravity. But if we go to the top of my house and jump off, we go crashing into the ground, right? It's not malicious. It's just going the way I direct it. And so with my strengths, I need to make sure they're pointed in the way I want, you know, like, significance. You mentioned that one. I have that one fairly high too. That's a really great strength, because it's about make an impact, make an impact on other people, make an impact in the world, make an impact on ourself. And that's the balcony, right? The good version, that negative space on that, the basement, if you will. You know the basement's like when I make things really important that aren't that important, right? And maybe even make it all about me, right? The the me monster comes out and then just pushes people away. So the basement is like our negative behavior, like when we're making it all about us with our strengths. For instance, maximizer is my number one strength. Maximizer in the balcony's like, just fascinated with elite like, whatever, you know, mastery looks like in this, whether it's a person I'm working with, like Lesley, like, you're a champion. I was so excited to be on your podcast, like I listened to it before I reached out, because I wanted to be around somebody I feel is like a master. You're definitely a master at being with people and just doing what you do. And that's really attractive to a maximizer, because I wanted to just be around it so I can, like, how can I use some of that for me and help people like her or whatever? And that's obviously really healthy getting to, like, just elite levels. The basement on maximizer is nothing's ever good enough, right? Like, well, let me just make it a little better and a little better. And it's like, how did you even get dressed today, if it's not, like, absolutely amazing, you know? And so it can be very picky. And so the question people ask, like, how do I get out of the basement? Once they understand the language, right? You know, it's like our blind spot. I'm like, man, it's really simple. Stop making it all about you, right? Because if I'm solely focused on me, then, like that gives the ego a lot of time to jump in.Brad Crowell 9:34  All right. Next up, we have Ripley Rader, where she talks about us being little ducklings, and how we might seem cool as a cucumber on top, but we are furiously paddling underneath, and how the different ways that we portray our businesses to the public versus ourselves. And as your business grows, the challenges that you face grow with you. So you might have conquered the thing you're conquering today, but then you're going to face new challenges as we move forward. So, enjoy.Ripley Rader 10:02  We call ourselves little ducks all the time because we seem super cool, and then underneath the water, I am kicking so hard that like you wouldn't and it's not anxiety. It's actions, it's ideas, it's movement. It's balancing all the balls in the air. We can all look as cool as cucumbers, but you know, anyone who's an entrepreneur is a extraordinary hard worker. And there's no way around it, because you can't fake it. Like I said to my PR team when I first hired them back in the day, we don't have them anymore, but they're amazing. But I said, you know, when we get bigger, we're just going to hand stuff up. She looks at me, and she goes, when you get bigger, you just work harder. And I was like, what? Really? She's like, yeah, you just work harder and more. And she's like, it's awesome, but that's the truth. And I thought, wow, no one had been shooting straight like that with me, so it was like, an awesome thing to hear. I was like, huh, okay? And to be honest, now that I'm on the other side, very true, very, very true.Lesley Logan 11:00  All right, loves. That was Episode 232 with Ripley Rader. And like I said before, the pants are as good as they say. That's what you hear on they're like, oh, these pants, everyone's talking about on social media. And I have them. I love them.Brad Crowell 11:13  You even have some jumpsuits, like, full, flowy.Lesley Logan 11:17  I have too many things. Brad Crowell 11:18  All the things. Lesley Logan 11:19  I don't have enough. Brad Crowell 11:19  They're great. Lesley Logan 11:20  To be completely honest. I love it all. So definitely take a listen to the whole thing. Also, if you watch it on YouTube, it's quite fabulous to see two redheads with two great names having a great conversation. I'm just gonna say that right there. Lesley Logan 11:29  You guys. I hope you enjoyed this rewind on the Biz Tips, and even if you do not work for yourself, I am sure you got something amazing out of one of these clips. Please share this with a friend who needs it, someone who needs to be reminded their hustle doesn't have to be a hassle. Someone who needs to remind themselves that your strengths can also fuck you up. And sometimes you just have to know how to identify that. All these tips are just such great reminders. I know for us, we had some like, oh, don't forget that. That was really great. So, you know what happens next. Lesley Logan 11:56  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 11:57  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 11:58  We want you to rate and review this podcast, share it with a friend, and until next time, most importantly, please be it till you see it. Brad Crowell 12:04  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 12:06  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 12:48  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 12:53  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 12:58  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 13:05  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 13:08  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Aligning Core Values for Growth Join John Golden and Kareen Walsh as they explore the power of mindset and self-responsibility in overcoming limitations. Kareen shares practical advice on identifying your core values, breaking free from relationships that hinder growth, and using tools like her "Hey Kareen" app for self-discovery. Gain insights on reflection, managing fear, and creating space for personal and professional fulfillment.

Ever thought about scaling your business to exit? In this episode, I'm joined by my friend and business strategist Kareen Walsh, who has spent more than a decade helping entrepreneurs scale and even exit their companies. She breaks down the EVOLVE methodology to evaluate where your business stands, create your scaling roadmap, and own your leadership role. We talk about keys to build a high-performing team, implement effective systems, and prepare for potential exit strategies (even if that simply means hiring leadership to exit your current role.) Check out our Sponsors: Shopify - Sign up for your $1/month trial period at Shopify.com/happy Found - Try Found for free at Found.com/EARN. Constant Contact - Get customized marketing campaigns built for you in just a few clicks. Go to constantcontact.com for your free trial.  HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 How do you help entrepreneurs scale and exit their companies? 09:15 The methodology for continuous business growth. 14:15 How to align your business vision with your personal life. 19:45 Tips to master your leadership responsibilities. 24:30 How to maximize team performance and potential. 34:30 Strategies to test and validate product ideas effectively. 41:15 How to know when it's time to pivot or double down on your current business strategy. 45:45 Steps to create an effective exit strategy. 53:15 The personalized coaching at your fingertips. RESOURCES Take the CEO Quiz HERE Download the Hey Kareen App HERE Get glōci HERE Use code: HAPPY at checkout for 25% off! Text DAILY to 310-496-8363 for daily manifesting affirmations, journal prompts, and motivation. Sign up for GrowthDay - https://www.growthday.com/lori?via=harder Watch on YouTube - @LoriHarder My book: A Tribe Called Bliss FOLLOW Follow me: @loriharder Follow Chris: @chriswharder Follow Earn Your Happy: @earnyourhappy Follow glōci: @getgloci Girlfriends & Business: @girlfriendsandbusiness Follow Kareen: @kareenzwalsh

Hey everyone, Joe Fier here from Hustle and Flowchart! Today, I'm super excited to share with you some key insights from our recent podcast episode with the amazing Kareen Walsh. Kareen discusses the launch of her new app, Hey Kareen, which centralizes her valuable content and makes her coaching methodologies more accessible. We delve into her professional journey, the challenges she faced, and how she overcame them using technology. Kareen shares insights on leadership, personal development, and tackling self-doubt. We also explore her consulting process, executive leadership coaching, and the importance of focused learning. Kareen's innovative use of AI cloning technology for coaching is another highlight of our conversation. Launch of the Hey Kareen App Kareen recently launched the Hey Kareen app to make her coaching expertise more accessible. The app centralizes her content, including books, podcasts, and coaching sessions. Kareen emphasizes the importance of addressing challenges directly to improve the app. The app aims to clone her methodologies and provide actionable advice at any time. Kareen shares her excitement about using technology to scale her impact and reach a broader audience more efficiently. Kareen's Professional Background and Challenges Kareen started as an entrepreneurial business coach and investor with a tech delivery background. She faced challenges in scaling her coaching business because clients wanted her specific expertise. To overcome this, she developed the Hey Kareen app, which leverages technology to provide her guidance and support. This innovation allows her to focus more on her clients and business coaching. Executive Leadership Coaching Kareen's coaching process involves discussing year-long goals with leaders, identifying team members responsible for each initiative, and building trust with the team. She aims to understand the leaders' guiding forces and success definitions. Kareen highlights the importance of assessing whether the team can achieve set goals and building relationships for efficient execution. Personal Development and Overcoming Self-Doubt Kareen advises identifying negative emotions like frustration, resentment, or anger that hinder progress. She emphasizes articulating unexpressed desires or thoughts to alleviate conflict. Self-love and self-worth are crucial for improving communication and relationships. Kareen also shares her experience with the fear of public speaking and how she developed the Hey Kareen app to support audience engagement post-speech. Building Communication Skills Kareen encourages self-questioning to clear doubts and gain confidence. Voicing or writing down unexpressed thoughts helps practice clear articulation and reduces relational tension. Joe and Kareen also discuss the fear of success, which often creates blocks due to the pressures of new responsibilities. Monthly Retrospectives and Accountability Kareen conducts monthly retrospectives to assess progress toward business or personal goals. She increased these sessions to weekly while working towards a seven-figure business and publishing a book. Kareen emphasizes celebrating successes as a way to boost energy for tackling challenges. She conducts a monthly free call with her community for self-assessment, asking key questions like: - What do you need to stop doing? - What do you need to start doing? - What action will you take? Entrepreneurial Strategy and Time Management Kareen transitioned from a strategic consultant in tech to scaling her business by changing her mindset. She aimed to grow from a six-figure income to a seven-figure business by leveraging relationships and market trust. Kareen focuses on spending only 10% of her time on active business management, enabling efficient operation and personal freedom. She highlights the importance of having clear goals and a structured approach. App Features and Future Plans The Hey Kareen app serves as a centralized platform for accessing Kareen's content, including books, workbooks, articles, and retired podcasts. It offers both free and paid versions, with the paid version providing more features and access. The app includes AI integration for on-demand coaching. Kareen stresses the need for focused learning, providing a distraction-free environment for intentional engagement. The app also emphasizes staying in action and accountability, with Kareen always walking alongside her users. Useful Links Connect with Kareen Walsh Hey Kareen App CEO Conundrum Quiz Conclusion This episode with Kareen Walsh is filled with practical advice and insights for entrepreneurs and business leaders. From the launch of the Hey Kareen app to overcoming personal challenges and scaling a business, Kareen shares valuable lessons from her journey. Whether you're looking to improve your leadership skills, tackle self-doubt, or leverage technology for growth, there's something here for everyone. Don't forget to check out the Hey Kareen app and take advantage of its many resources to support your entrepreneurial journey. Thanks for tuning in! Two Other Episodes You Should Check Out I Made An AI Clone Of Myself with Joe Fier The Future of Mentorship: How Delphi's Cloning Technology is Democratizing Access to Expertise Dara Ladjevardian Resources From Episode What if you could have a FREE personal mentor on-demand?! With Joe's Hustle & Flowchart AI clone, you can tap into the knowledge from over 600 episodes any time! Whether you need advice on scaling, marketing, or productivity, my AI clone is here to help. 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What do you want the version of you to look like? Brad Crowell and Lesley Logan reflect on a recent interview with business coach Kareen Walsh, highlighting the impact of taking action in achieving success. They discuss overcoming procrastination and perfectionism, emphasizing the pivotal role of self-reflection and inner work. Additionally, they explore the differences between Contrology and Studio Reformer equipment. Ready to take bold steps toward your dreams? Tune in for motivation, personal growth, and actionable insights!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why procrastination occurs with tasks you don't genuinely want to do.The importance of accepting imperfections and being true to yourself.Why introspection is necessary, especially when life feels monotonous.Why manifestation requires both visualization and actionable steps.How to identify where you are out of integrity and make necessary changes. Episode References/Links:Earth Overshoot DayOPC Summer toureLevate mentorship programCambodia retreat40 day Trial for $40Kareen Walsh WebsiteYour Badass JourneyKareen Walsh Episode 27  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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So believing in the vision, then take action to make it happen, because nothing can be manifested without taking action.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:02  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life Brad, and I, are going to dig into the energizing convo I had with Kareen Walsh in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you should listen to it at some point this week for all the amazing reasons that we're going to talk about in this episode. But first, today is July 25th 2024. And it's Earth Overshoot Day. So about this day, we're observing Earth Overshoot Day on July 25th. This is a serious day for all of us to reconsider our way of life and usage of natural resources. Our Mother Earth can only regenerate resources at a finite rate. But we're utilizing it more than this rate every year. Earth Overshoot Day was introduced to raise awareness about the resource shortage that we are creating with our modern lifestyle. Once the regeneration resources' at its limit we exploit what was left of the resources making the situation even worse. Andrew Simms started the idea behind Earth Overshoot Day to track the ecological resources and services we use from nature. By the way, not that he needs any downloads from us. But John Oliver did a really cool episode recently about the mining of the oceans. And it's very fascinating because people are trying to say this is where we have to go for more resources for batteries and we do not. There are other ways to do it. So please educate yourself on these things. And as someone who was born and raised in a drought and turns the lights off in every room (inaudible), like you can do those things, too. It's very simple. So take care of the resources you have. It's and that doesn't mean hoard. It just means like, you know, be thoughtful about things. If you live in a place that gets lots of rain, just know some of us don't have any. So just be thoughtful. Okay? Be thoughtful. Brad Crowell 2:42  Yeah. If you want to learn more about this go to overshoot.footprintnetwork.org and you'll find more about that Earth Overshoot Day. Lesley Logan 2:50  Cool, amazing. Okay, we are days away from taking off for our sixth tour powered by Balanced Body. So we are super, super excited. We are heading 13 cities in 15 days. Holy freaking molly. I'm excited to see how this turns out. And many of those cities are selling out or sold out. So you'll want to go to opc.me/tour to get your spot. You do not have to have a lot of experience in Pilates to come, you can bring your friend. I just invited the real estate agent who shows me every new listing in my neighborhood and I said okay, great. I'm not going to come to this open house because I have one but you should come to my pop-up. And she is, she's totally coming. So, opc.me/tour to grab your tickets to our 13 cities. It's Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lincoln, Nebraska, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Chicago, you know where that's at? Cleveland. That's the same you know where that is, too. Dayton, Ohio. Brad Crowell 3:45  Indianapolis, Indiana. Lesley Logan 3:47  Indy, St. Louis and Kansas City. Brad Crowell 3:50  And then Colorado Springs.Lesley Logan 3:51  Colorado Springs, because there's two Kansas cities we should just say it's Kansas City, Kansas. So there you go.Brad Crowell 3:56  There's also two St. Louis's. Also split by a river.Lesley Logan 4:03  No one talks about that other one, then. So my eLevate mentorship program for 2025 and application doors are open. We've accepted a ton of people. And at the time that we're recording this I have no idea if there's spots available, but there might be so you should check it out so you don't have to wait till 2026. If you're a Pilates instructor who is wanting to really understand the method in a way that gives you freedom and permission to not over plan, over cue, overcorrect, over talk and also prioritizes your practice first go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Brad Crowell 4:30  Yup, lesleylogan.co/elevate. Next up, Cambodia. February 2025. We're gonna be taking another group with us and we got a few spots left to for that, crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. And you've heard us wax eloquently about Cambodia over the years. So I'm going to trust you've already heard us talk about that. But I'm telling you, you got to come, it's worth it. Next up, we got OPC. As you know, OPC is an amazing place where you can take classes, workshops, find exercises, we've, by the way, we have like 400 free tutorials or something, I can't remember how many tutorials on there. So it's an incredible resource that you can be tapping into if you haven't already been doing that. And we have added two new teachers. So we're really excited about that. Lesley Logan 5:22  And we've added, we've added that you can take a class for up to two weeks now. Brad Crowell 5:26  Yeah, we can, yeah, that's right. Now, we've actually got two classes available a week, we're going to be overlapping them. So you'll have access to a class for two weeks. If you were sick on week one no worries, we'll keep that class up for a second week. So, good news. That is exciting. It's really cool to see a shift change and grow over the years. And that's because people just like you are joining us in there. But if you haven't yet, or you want to come back and join us again, go to opc.me/40 opc.me/40. Take a 40 day trial for $40. Lesley Logan 5:57  It's like 40 days and 40 nights, but really, it's 40 for $40. Brad Crowell 6:00  It's 40 for $40. Yeah, and then from there, it rolls into a membership of your choice. Right? So we've got based on the different equipment you have access to opc.me/40 Lesley Logan 6:10  All right, we have an audience question before we get into our recap of Kareen. So Brad, what is it? Brad Crowell 6:15  We sure do. This is from Sloth Papa on YouTube. Lesley Logan 6:15  What a great name. Brad Crowell 6:15  Oh, yes, Sloth Papa. He asked, "How did you like going from the Studio Reformer to the Contrology line?" So for those of you who don't know what that means, this is a different line of Pilates equipment. The Studio Reformer line.Lesley Logan 6:31  Balanced Body creates the Studio Reformer and they also create Contrology. Brad Crowell 6:34  Balanced Body creates both Studio Reformer line and Contrology. He said I recently got a studio reformer, replaced the wheels with bushings for more of a muddy drag classical field. I love it. But I can't help but think that I'm missing out on a classical reformer. What are your thoughts? Lesley Logan 6:52  You are. Brad Crowell 6:50  Yeah, sorry, Sloth Papa, you are. That's the answer. Lesley Logan 6:53  And I say this with all the love and kindness. And remember, we are powered by Balanced Body for our tours. So I teach in a lot of Studio Reformers. And here's the deal, you can lengthen your straps to be as long as a leather strap would be. You can add handles, which would create more of a handle-like feeling. And but you can't change the springs. And even if you add the bushing for more muddy feel, you still can't change the fact that the ropes don't act like leather. And the springs don't have a long neck which means the spring still close the equipment, you don't close the equipment. Brad Crowell 7:29  Gotta get those long necks. Lesley Logan 7:30  So, on the Contrology line, when the spring is closed, the carriage is not closed. For those who've never heard of a reformer, this is really boring. With that being said, it's really amazing. And it's incredible. And I love that you're getting as creative as you can with what you have. And I will also say if you really want a classical feel, you can sell your Studio Reformer for probably full price to someone who needs it. And you can get yourself a Contrology line. And by the way, if you love your Studio Reformer, I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying if, you're, like, we can only make so many changes to something before it's not the same thing. And by the way, if you are using a Studio Reformer taking classical classes, drop your ropes on your risers, people, drop them all the way down. And if that doesn't mean anything to you, we're about to get to the episode and so thanks for sticking through it. Send your question in and we will answer it. Doesn't have to be Pilates, can be life, can be music, can be anything. We want to answer your questions because we love giving you honest feedback. So if you want Contrology, we do have an affiliate. So grab our link, save some money, or hit me up with your email and I'll connect you with my salesperson so you can go right to the source. Brad Crowell 8:33  Yeah, but otherwise, you can find that at opc.me/perks, opc.me/perks. Stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 8:40  Okay, now let's talk about Kareen Walsh. Kareen Walsh is a seasoned entrepreneur known for building seven-figure businesses and is celebrated as the ultimate business healer. Her purpose is to be a conduit to help others manifest and materialize their dreams. She is also a top business strategist, coach and investor, and the host of the podcast Your Badass Journey where she shares insights and stories to inspire and empower her audience aiming to accelerate their growth by leveraging her lessons learned over more than a decade in the corporate world and then being a business owner herself. I guess that's probably more than a decade on those two things. Okay. As you may or may not know, actually, you may or may not know this, Kareen, we have been coaching with Kareen for a number of years, she has actually been uniquely responsible for some changes in our business that made our lives a whole lot better which is, I'm alluding to our switching hats a couple of years ago. And not only that, but has been, you know, become a friend in a way. Really amazing brainstorming buddy and still someone who, you know, is very invested in what we're doing. And it's been awesome. Lesley Logan 9:52  Yeah, I mean, we love her and she's back we are gonna have some more changes because we got to like hash some stuff out with her which is great. So I wanted to bring her back because her life has changed so much since she was back first on the show. Brad Crowell 10:04  Yeah, I think she was 2021. Lesley Logan 10:06  Oh, for sure. She was like episode 17 or 57. At any rate, it was like she was. And she was so, so great, Brad's gonna see which number if I'm correct or not with that. She's so great. And I wanted to bring her back on because I think it's really cool for you guys to see how someone can be it till you see it again and again and again. And so one of the things that we got to talk about was about procrastination, how it shows up in something you don't really want. Brad Crowell 10:33  You were very close. Episode 27 and 28. Lesley Logan 10:37  Oh, there we go. Brad Crowell 10:38  And now, 397.Lesley Logan 10:40  Oh. Okay. Brad Crowell 10:43  This is 398. Lesley Logan 10:44  That's amazing. Okay, well, clearly, she's got some numbers in there. So we're gonna know how procrastination shows up in something you don't really want. So like if you really want it, you'll take action towards it. But the perfectionist has hesitation on putting out anything until it feels absolute. And absolute is really hard in the human world. Because we're meant to be a little messy, which attracts other messy people, which is like, actually, like not a bad thing. There's a difference between dirty and messy, just so you know. And it believes it's not about perfection that causes hesitation to put your real self out in the world. I actually thought this is really interesting, because I have always attributed to like you procrastinate on things that you don't really have a goal around, you haven't attached it to your goal in a way that makes you want to do it. And it's kind of like the same thing. She's like, you don't really want it. And so like, we procrastinate on the things we don't really want. And I feel like no less, I really want this thing, but I just am too scared. Because I'm like, you don't really want like get honest about because if you really, really want it, you would actually take action because people do like, it's like as simple as like, if he really likes you he'll call. It's just like that. If you really wanted something, you (inaudible) a way to pay for it. I'll tell you right now, there are some chairs in this house that we did not need, but I really wanted them and I figured out a way to make sure I could get them. You know, so like we do take action towards things you really want. So if you are finding yourself procrastinating on perfectionism it's because you haven't figured how you connect it to something you really want to do and or you are not allowing yourself to be a little bit messy in this messy world and to explore it comes from now it's probably a lot more fun. Brad Crowell 12:19  Yeah, one of the things that that I really dug, she was talking about monotony and self-reflection or introspection, right? So she said when life becomes monotonous, we often convince ourselves that we are fine without that introspection. And I felt like her argument against that was pretty solid, she said that we have to have an inner awakening, it has to happen. She was specifically talking about what, in this case, her life wasn't monotonous. But in the same way, on the flip side, she had to still do introspection, because during COVID, her business really grew amazingly, like it like really, really took off. And she realized I gotta show up as a different person now. And it took a lot of introspection to do what she did, and to make the changes that she made in her life. But what she was talking about here is when we feel like life is boring or monotonous, that same inner awakening needs to happen. We need to actually take up, shake it up and allow ourselves to dream again, right? Because the worthiness of dreaming, again, is tied to recognizing your self-worth. This is really interesting, right? We get into a groove, we forget why we got into this groove in the first place even though we might have felt like there was a reason to get in here. A couple of years down the line, you're in a rut, you're just running the same play every single day. And then the idea of changing out of that can seem a little scary. And also it's like, well, I got here for a reason. Why am I here? And so we don't actually look at ourselves with value, to set aside time to think about change, let alone making the change. I mean, just even conceptualize it. So I love this idea of shaking it up allowing yourself to dream again, when you dream, you're telling yourself that you have value. And a lot of us don't allow ourselves to dream because we're afraid, right? And we're devaluing ourselves. She said, allow yourself to realize that how you've been showing up and who you've been showing up for is no longer who you actually desire to be. Maybe you are ready to change, maybe you're ready to change a lot of things. For herself, and the challenge she asked us was, what is that version of me that I want to show up as? What do I want me to actually look like? You know, and it's, it's funny, because I think, especially when you're in high school and college, you're like, you know, how do I want people to perceive me? And today, it's been so long since we made that decision, we kind of forget, and we're just who we are and we're like, oh yeah, this is me. You know, take it or leave it and that's fine. But also, what if you what if you thought about that again now? What if you thought, well, I could change again, I could actually grow again now at this point in my life, you know, and I think that's pretty awesome. Lesley Logan 15:08  I do. I do like the question of like, what do I want the version of me to look like because that's a be it till you see it. That's a great be it till you see it question. Brad Crowell 15:14  Yeah. Lesley Logan 15:14  Yeah. Brad Crowell 15:16  Yeah, it's awesome. She said aim for the most outstanding version of yourself because that's going to bring you excellent results. Stick around. Brad Crowell 15:25  Alright, finally, let's talk about those, say it with me, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kareen Walsh? Well. Lesley Logan 15:36  I hope everyone can say it with you by now. It's episode 398, you've done this 199 times. Brad Crowell 15:42  Yeah, it's true. A lot. A lot. Yeah, so her Be It Till You See It approach is energy is how you act in it until it actually happens. Energy is how you act in it until it actually happens. Believing in your vision, take action to make it happen. Let me clarify this. You two we're talking about manifestation. Right? And the manifestation was, you know, we think of manifestation and it's like, I wished it into being. And she was like, oh, hell, no, that's not manifestation. That's just like, hope, you know, wish-wish marketing. Right? She said, you still had to take action. Nothing happens unless you take action. But you can still envision it, right? So she's talked about bringing that energy into the manifestation. And that is how you act until the thing actually happens, right? So believing in the vision, then take action to make it happen. Because nothing can be manifested without taking action. She advised to get clear on your perspective and how you treat yourself in the process. Right? So just think back a little bit. We were talking about dreaming, putting value on yourself. You know, she talked about how do I want to show up in, you know, in this space? And who do I want to turn into who I want to be continuous growth and evolving is hard. But to fully visualize, you can, it can help determine the stance that you want. Okay and what about you? Lesley Logan 17:11  I really liked that she said, as an action item, step into a life of integrity of whom you're meant to become. Look inward and assess where you are out of integrity. So it's going back to last week's episode with the values thing, it's like, kind of actually kind of amazing how these two go back to back together so well, but looking, like, do a self -assessment of your of like, of who you are. And just notice, like, if you believe that you are someone who shows up when they say they're going to and you are someone who feels themselves properly and you rest, then if you are staying up late watching Netflix, and you're showing up late to your own job that you've already created, and hitting snooze, then you're out of integrity with who you are. And of course, it's gonna be frustrating, of course, is going to even feel monotonous or even not fun. And so really, truly like taking, taking some time to like look at where you are in alignment with your values, and also where you're out of integrity with them. And then you can make some changes. So you can do the inner work to fix all of that. And if you are able to do that, then you'll have a better, clearer lens on what you truly desire, it's what she said. And what you want to actually become very clear, but it's the inner work, so it takes a lot of time. So you got to give yourself that permission. But without it, it's just more noise, you're just going to be like ingesting, ingesting more and more tips and not actually integrating them. So there you go. Brad Crowell 18:39  Yeah, no, I thought it was you know, there's quite a challenge there to be willing to hold yourself accountable. Lesley Logan 18:46  Yeah, absolutely. It's not fun. It's not fun to go oh, I'm the problem. It's, "Hi, it's me." It's the only Taylor Swift song I know, guys, and I really love it. I like constantly just like hi, I'm the problem. It's me. And you know what, the more you do that it goes back to (inaudible) we got him on the podcast. He was like responsibilities like you were able to respond. When you take responsibility for something, it means you're able to respond. And so things you don't like in your life, things you do like in your life, like you can actually have the ability to respond. You have to do the inner work and it's not easy. It's not fun, but you get to have the life of integrity and you get to have the life that you want. And it's really, really cool. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:21  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:22  How are you going to use these tips in your life today? Let us know. Tag Kareen, tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it, that is how this podcast grows. We're gonna be dropping episode 400 very, very soon. It is my favorite guest in life. Dream guest, huge guest and so it would mean the world to me if you share all of these episodes to as many people as possible so that they get the 400th episode into their downloads on the day it drops we can have the biggest day of downloads ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Thank you so much and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:56  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 19:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 20:25  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.  Lesley Logan 20:39  pod. 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Kareen Walsh and Lesley Logan explore the journey of manifesting dreams through integrity, action, and self-awareness, sharing their experiences in launching successful businesses and navigating entrepreneurial challenges. They discuss the importance of validating new ideas through feedback and highlight the ongoing pursuit of authentic success. With insights on overcoming fears, aligning goals, and most importantly, taking action, this episode offers valuable lessons and inspiration to fuel your own dreams.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of having clear goals and visions.How fear of failure or feedback from others can hold you back.Why inner work is crucial for aligning with your true desires.How leveraging technology can help in creating a legacy. The significance of focusing on feedback from relevant sources.The necessity of taking action to turn visualization into reality.How to step into integrity to become who you're meant to be.Episode References/Links:Kareen Walsh WebsiteHalf Day Immersive Strategy SessionsMonthly Live Retrospective Call to Get into Aligned ActionKareen Welsh Slp Program to Get Clarity and Jump Into Action Against Their GoalsKareen Walsh InstagramKareen Walsh LinkedInGuest Bio:Kareen Zahr Walsh is a visionary business and people strategist, author, podcaster , investor, and a 7-figure business building entrepreneur making her the ultimate Business Healer. With nearly 2 decades of experience optimizing performance in the health & wellness, eCommerce, technology, and finance industries, running top performing teams in complex environments, Kareen has a proven track record of helping C-Suite executives turn their vision of impact into action often resulting in 10Xing their investment. Kareen is on a mission to help you integrate your inner business with your vision for external impact so you can get out of your own way and stand in alignment.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Kareen Walsh 0:00  It was a very transformative few years because I refused to deny myself the truth of what was really going on with me and what I really wanted. And so once I stood in my truth and I was like, Okay, this is what I want then I had to stand in integrity in my action. So the be it till you see it energy is how you act in it until it actually happens.Lesley Logan 0:28  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:10  All right, Be It babe. So here's the deal. I got my besties back on the pod this woman is Kareen Walsh. You maybe remember her from the first year we had the podcast. She has the best quote of your hustles should never become a hassle. And if your hustle is become a hassle, then you should probably call Kareen. But she and I talked a little bit about manifestation. We talked about procrastination. I love that we got to talk about how her life has evolved since the last time she was on. And I think it's so, so, so important. I like to have some of our guests come back again because their life has changed and they have shifted and it's important for you to know that in the Be It Till You See It process, it is not like you ever make it, you know, like, "Nailed it." It's always evolving. We're always evolving. And so Kareen and her life and what she shares with you in today's episode is a really great example of that. So I'm so, so excited for you to hear that in today's episode. Here's Kareen. Lesley Logan 2:05  All right, Be It babe. I'm so excited. We have a special interview for you. Clearly, you can see we're in a special, special place. But we have Kareen Walsh here. You've been on the pod before, but just in case anyone hasn't listened to the episode yet, or doesn't know you, somehow, can you tell them who you are and what you rock at?Kareen Walsh 2:21  Sure. And first before we even jump into that, your community is amazing. Like, literally, your listeners, every time, even when I did that initial episode, I mean the amount of people that just reached out and like want to learn more. So thank you for having me on again. I love our conversations.Lesley Logan 2:37  Oh my god. So here we go on it (inaudible). Everyone quotes my hustle's become a hassle. But like, 'cause you said, go listen to that first episode guys because she says it's okay to have a hustle just can't become a hassle, I was like, it's no longer for you. So anyways, okay (inaudible).Kareen Walsh 2:57  Basically, my purpose is, I believe, is to be a conduit to help others manifest and materialize their dreams, whether it's in life or business. I happen to be a top business strategist, coach, investor, I have my own seven-figure business I've been running for over 10 years. And I just want people to accelerate their growth by leveraging my lessons learned. And so with that, I run my consulting company called revampologist, I have my coaching practice under my name. And then now I'm about to launch a whole new platform on-demand coaching called Hey, Kareen, which I'm super excited about.Lesley Logan 3:34  I know because also I remember it was not this January, but the last January, we were doing our first annual tradition of hanging out and you're like, hey, I'm doing this thing I'm gonna call it Hey, Kareen. I was like, so, and now here we are and Hey, Kareen is like, is a thing. So first of all, I just want to if we can, we go, we go forward to go backwards. A lot of people have ideas, and then it can take some time. And so sometimes they go, maybe it's not supposed to happen, or, you know, now looking back, this is almost two years in the making of just this one thing. How, how did you like navigate a two-year long-ish journey and did that feel longer than you wanted? How did you kind of figure that out? Because I do think so many people go, I have this idea. And then it's not happened. So I should be further along by now.Kareen Walsh 4:22  Yeah. So many things in that question. You know, whenever we have these big visions, right, these big goals or this aspiration, right, it's always this idea that comes to us. And then we're like, well, how do we, how do we manifest it? How do we make it happen? How does it come to life, right, and there's so many different tracks you can take. But if you're not clear on the destination, then it's really hard to carve out a plan. And what I realized for me, so I've had several different businesses over the years. Some have failed, some have been successful, like I am a idea machine. And then when I have an idea, I want to figure it out like I am just very solution-oriented and, and also very strategic. But I realized that my pattern for achievement, and making sure that actually comes to fruition was that I had to be clear on a part of it, not all of it, but I was like, well, let me go try this first. And then I would jump into action. And I think a lot of people get stuck in the fear of what if I fail, or what if it doesn't come into what it should be, or they sit in the feedback of others who have never done it before, and then they're convincing themselves of something that isn't true to their journey. So the differentiator with me is that just by taking that first step towards it, you know a little bit more about what's possible. And it doesn't have to be all the things, I also give myself permission to change my mind. So you just mentioned that this is a, this has been like a two-year concept, right? I didn't take action until this year, because I allowed myself to fully bake the idea and really sit with it. Because in the past, Lesley, I was, I had a lot of half-baked ideas out there. People literally would be like, oh, this is really cool. Let me go build this program. And I would build the program, never market it. Because I like the building part. But I didn't care about the selling part, right? Like I (inaudible) or I would be like, oh, you know, I want to go write this book. And I finished my first book in 2017. I was like, done with the journey and then the actual putting it out into the world. I was like, meh, so there's been very different learning curves for me on the full picture that I had to realize I had to visualize the full picture. I had to, I had to start to think about, okay, if I do this thing and then I, how am I putting it out into the world? And like, what's the purpose of putting it out into the world? And what's the attention I want from it and to follow through completely on the vision? You know what I mean?Lesley Logan 6:58  I do know what you mean. I do think I have some several half-baked ideas out there. Kareen Walsh 7:02  Right? So many because we're an idea machine. Lesley Logan 7:04  Right. And we and we do take action. Yeah. Now I want to ask you, from what you just said is how do we know that we're baking an idea versus like, procrastinating tweaking? Like, I'm gonna tweak a little bit more. I'm just like, I'm still noodling. How do we know we're like, it's still that the baking is the action of that idea versus a procrastination? Kareen Walsh 7:26  Yeah, sure. So procrastination, I believe, shows up in something you don't really want. If you really want it, you will take action towards it. In my opinion, right? Like, if you are someone who really wants to bring this thing into your life, you will sit in procrastination for a period of time sometimes just to test yourself, do I really want it? But most of the time, if you don't. And then it's like, o h, it didn't happen. I keep procrastinating. If you even call yourself a procrastinator. There are people who have to have pressure to act like they need a deadline. They need to know someone's waiting for it. They need to feel like that, like, something's gonna be lost if they don't do it. Like there's a, there's a true procrastinator energy like that that exists, which is really about I need tension to show up. And generally that tension is coming from someone else.Lesley Logan 8:22  Yeah, they're creating stress to (inaudible).Kareen Walsh 8:24  To follow through. But generally, it's because they don't really want to do that thing. When you are coming from an innate place of like, I want this thing to come out into the world, you will literally do anything possible to at least try. Like, you really will, if you're, if you're truly aligned in that way. It's hard to get to that point I think if you don't do that inner work that we talk about all the time, where it's like, I'm just being true to myself, like that's a great idea. But do I really want to? Lesley Logan 8:52  I think you're right, sort of the people in my group, I did a whole webinar on procrastination, so I had to do some research like okay, well, what is procrastination? Kareen Walsh 8:58  Yeah, what did you find out? Lesley Logan 8:59  So one of the things I found out is like, if you are a procrastinator, it also could be that you haven't figured out what you are procrastinating on is aligned with the goal that you have. So you haven't really attached your why to it and if you, so that makes sense what (inaudible) of course you don't want to do something that's not part of the thing that you're doing. And so truly baking an idea is actually like going through like what do I want from this, why am I doing this, how does it align with all these other things and I think there's a difference between putting it on the ideas board and never and just going I'm gonna do that someday, I'm gonna do that someday, versus Kareen Walsh 9:32  Act on it. Lesley Logan 9:32  Putting in time each week or even more each morning like really thinking about what this idea is and who it's for. And I think even thinking or meditating or journaling it can be action. Kareen Walsh 9:43  Connecting to it though, right? So the reason everything that I have learned from in the doing that I realized I wanted to take more time to bake my vision now is that I no longer have the time to waste. And, and I really wanted to make sure that when I do put effort when I do put investment when I, when I actually bring people together for it when I, you know, like the whole effort behind it, time is of such value to me right now, because there's so much that I'm doing but I wanted to make sure that when I launched this, I had the right strategy, it sat well within me like I felt connected with it to follow through. And now it is crazy to actually receive the test version of this platform and be like, hh my god, it's even more than I dreamt of because. Lesley Logan 10:34  I didn't see it yet. Kareen Walsh 10:35  So it's even more, it's even more and I'm super excited. Lesley Logan 10:38  So, um, is it okay we let the cat out of the bag? Kareen Walsh 10:41  Yeah, let the people know. Lesley Logan 10:42  So Kareen has created an app and it's called Hey, Kareen. Kareen Walsh 10:46  It's like the AI, it's called Hey, Kareen because, you know how it goes, Hey, Siri, or Hey, Alexa and you start making commands. This is your on-demand business coaching platform. Lesley Logan 10:55  With your amazing advice.Kareen Walsh 10:56  With my strategies, methodologies, everything in the bag. Lesley Logan 10:59  And I actually haven't seen it because even though we use the same app developer, I was, and I was at his his house he's like, do you want to see it? I'm like, of course, I wan to see, and even though I introduced you to him, he's like, oh, wait a minute, we have a rule. (Inaudible) Kareen Walsh 11:10  I'm gonna show it to you, guys. I'm gonna show it to you, guys. Lesley Logan 11:16  (Inaudible) And I think it's also the, to go back to your ideas, I actually think our ideas, once they are in reality are always bigger and better than what we could have ever dreamed of because you can only kind of put together what you've seen or what has existed, it's really hard, you know, had a coach say he's like, unique ideas are amazing. But if you can't tell someone you want to invest in it, or somebody who want to buy it, that it's like this and this together people can't conceptualize it either. And they're not gonna help you. So like, when I talk about going on tour, they're like, go on tour, I'm like, yes, it's like how a band goes on tour but I just teach classes like, you have to like, because that helps peopleKareen Walsh 11:55  Conceptualize what you're doing.Lesley Logan 11:57  But then, in reality, everything ends up being a little bit better. And I think that the perfectionist slash procrastinators out there who are just noodling around, one of the things I feel like they're holding themselves back from is their experience of something being bigger than they could even imagine, you know? Kareen Walsh 12:14  Yeah, and one, I think you, because you used two different types of people in that statement, the perfectionist, has hesitation on putting anything out there until it feels absolute. An absolute is really hard in the human world. That's really hard. I, you know what I mean, like we are meant to be a little messy. And that's what other messy people will be attracted to. It's not about perfection, and that creates its own stress and strain that causes hesitation to put your real self out into the world. So I always say do it messy because it just gets you started. And then this journey even to get this concept together. Last year, what I did launch that didn't go anywhere, which was a learning curve, you know, like a lesson learned was originally when I launched Hey, Kareen, it was meant to be a group coaching program where people would have access to me to just ask questions on the fly, as they were in their business, right. So it was a much higher price point. And the accessibility was there. But the desire to utilize that wasn't as high as I thought it might be. Right? And then I tested it out with a group. And it was it went well in the sense of the support they got, but the consistency wasn't there. Plus, it was burning me out. Because imagine just getting nonstop questions from entrepreneurs, because everyone's going through and then you're just repeating yourself a lot of the times, even though I was repeating it in a recorded message to the group that they can all listen to, it still was not being captured the right way. So it had to wait until now when the technology available to us is just phenomenal that I can actually leverage everything and have the system do it for me, where it just, it's just so freeing. Like I feel like oh my gosh, it actually is creating legacy for me and then it's also creating accessibility without me wasting away trying to make it happen. I'm letting the engine to do its thing. So it's, like you said, like, I never had that picture when I first thought about the vision because I didn't know about the tech and then finding out like this is my vision I ideally would like this kind of impact leveraging technology to do it even better and faste? Oh. Lesley Logan 14:26  Well, I think that's why like, a lot of people don't want to share their ideas with people. One, there's a fear like someone's gonna take it or there's a fear that it like maybe it's not gonna be good enough or it's not ready yet and I'll share it but I have found and maybe you can attest to this and or not, but like when I share an idea with someone, they actually opened my eyes to all these possibilities that I didn't know about, for you, the tech, kind of somewhere in the last year like blew up (inaudible) accessible thing but like, to your point you said you didn't know it was, the tech was there, like Kareen Walsh 14:59  Didn't know how to do this.Lesley Logan 15:00  Yeah, if you don't share your ideas, you, your, your ideas can only go as far as you know. Kareen Walsh 15:05  Exactly. It is, it's in the limitations of what you have. Right. So you, that's the box, but then like, open the doors to other people and now you have the world to access like it's just, and the expertise of others, you always need to bring in and kind of bounce the ideas off of and say, hey, this is what I'm thinking, what do you think? What, would you use it? Is there, do you find it valuable? Like I'm constantly validating any new offer, even, even any of your listeners who are putting together like, some new offer or a new class or a different platform, etc. Always test it out first on a group, get that feedback, make it better. And then again, and again and again, it's called continuous development. That's what in tech happens. It's also what we do personally, you know, it's how we evolve. It's like, constantly trying to get the feedback, move on. Lesley Logan 15:56  Brad knows about something. And I didn't mean to burst his bubble, but he's like, I want to do this thing. And I'm like, I don't think we should do it right now. And he was, I definitely saw it, like, I hit a bubble. And I was like, well, personally, what we haven't done well, is we haven't done some of these feedback things that we could do from specific groups of people to really understand why they're using what they're using of ours. We do a great job. Like we've had amazing success. I want to go to another level. And another level isn't always inventing another idea. It's actually understanding why people like the current idea, in their own words. And it's, but that requires like, asking people. And we don't always want to ask because I don't know, maybe we're afraid what people are gonna say (inaudible) bothering people.  Kareen Walsh 16:39  Or it shuts down your vision. It's so precious, your vision of what you want, like, it's just such a precious, beautiful thing, because it's all yours. And then as soon as you're like, hey, come look at my baby. And is my baby ugly? You don't want to believe that. You're kind of like, ah, okay, so you have to have a little bit of detachment, once you, once you are gonna welcome other people in and you also have to have the lens of, I hear your input, but you're actually not my target market, or you're not the people I need that from. So thank you for that. But I'm just gonna go over here, you know, so knowing who you're doing it for, is who you need to go ask for feedback from, but that's so beautiful that you're like, we just don't have enough data. So you weren't really saying no, you're just saying not right now until these things happen.Lesley Logan 17:26  Yeah, well, because it's, I think, like, having the data from the actual people and you hit the nail on the head, like, we often ask family members, what do they think? And they're like, not your target market half the time and family likeKareen Walsh 17:41  No, no, no. No, sorry. My family has no clue what I actually do like, even to this day, I think my mom thinks I'm an HR because I got a degree back in the day on that, like, yes, only get the feedback from your target market, because the family comes with so much baggage, too, the way they say it, how they say it, who said it (inaudible).Lesley Logan 18:06  My mother-in-law gave me like three ideas on the phone the other day, and it was like, you know, and you're just like, and I, like, I have enough ideas, first of all. And also these ideas. I don't know (inaudible). And I was like, how do I say it? Kareen Walsh 18:21  Those are great ideas. Not for me.Lesley Logan 18:24  Thank you. Thanks, you know, I think your daughter will kill me if I'm late on projects (inaudible) you have to know who to ask and that no, I thinks, sometimes, and oftentimes, like, I hire people to be the people to ask the questions to like, that's why people hire you. It's like, it's like you're curating the right people to ask advice from and then you're also having to be very particular who you ask information from on your beautiful baby. Okay. I want to go back a little bit though. Because since so, we had you on several years back, you're back now a lot has changed and you're one of the guests who I know understands what be it till you see it means even before this podcast even existeds. You do it all the time. So how have you been beeing it till you see it these last couple of years with this evolution? Kareen Walsh 19:16  Yeah, yeah. No. So it's been interesting. The the self journey is all about being true, like so I think since we last did the, our recording. It was I was definitely very driven in serving—serving my clients, serving others, serving, you know, people in my life. It was all this outbound side. And about two and a half years ago, I was like, I'm depleted, like getting through the pandemic. So my business skyrocketed during the pandemic because one of my consulting companies, basically was, like grew doubled in what it was because my services were in high demand during the time where people couldn't hire full time, and so they needed experts that I have in my business to come in and do that. So I not only was like extremely busy, so the money was in the bank, and I had the vision for that. And I stepped into my entrepreneurial side for it. But I neglected who I had to become to actually stand in it in a healthy way. So when I think about the be it until you see it, I had to shift my lens to make sure that I'm a multifaceted person. So I need a dynamic way of caring for myself, in order to then stand in all these things that I choose to manage. And in that two-and-a-half-year mark, I realized that I was really in this point of convincing myself, I call it a form of self-manipulation when you're sitting in convincing energy that I was okay, when I wasn't. So I had to shift my perspective completely to be like, Kareen, what is a healthy, aligned, entrepreneurial life that you want to lead? And I started to design that for myself and had to remove all the layers of the way I was showing up in life to cast a healthier vision for my businesses, for myself, personally, who I was surrounding myself with, who I was in relationship with, how I was attracting clients and I had to clean house. And it was a very transformative few years because I refuse to deny myself the truth of what was really going on with me, and what I really wanted. And so once I stood in my truth, and I was like, okay, this is what I want, then I had to stand in integrity in my action. So the be it till you see it energy is how you act in it until it actually happens. Right? So you have the belief. Sure. You have the vision. Sure. But none of it can be manifested without action. And so for me, I've always been action-oriented, but not with the aligned stance of me first, it was always for everyone else.And then it was like, Okay, if I took care of me first, I can even do so much more for everyone else. So now what that then allowed me to do in that perspective, so first, you have to kind of get clear on your perspective and how you treat yourself in the process to then cast these visions of like, okay, if I want to, you know, build my mastermind and I want to I have this now two-day immersive I do with my clients that I freakin love like to go for two days from end to end through my evolve methodology with a founder, like that vision that I had for it. And I think I designed it last June. And by December, I had gone through five different entrepreneurial businesses and done these two-day immerses and where their businesses are today, like, those opportunities would not have been there because I wasn't clear on the stance that I wanted prior. Prior, it was all these like short-term stent things. And now it's like, no, I want longevity. I want to walk alongside my clients always. I want to feel that they see me evolving, while I'm helping them evolve. Like, I want to make sure there's this continuous growth, you know, energy in everything I do. And sometimes that's hard to fully visualize, but you can determine the stance you want in it. And just as simple as showing up in that stance, then the right things start to attract in and are reflective in the interactions you have. Lesley Logan 23:36  Yeah, I think like it's been fun because I get to watch on the outside, too, and I get to be on the inside too (inaudible) I got to see like, and not just because the world had opened up last year, it (inaudible) for several years. But like to watch you go okay, the person, the way I want this (inaudible) to people I want to help, they're in this room, I'm gonna go in that room. They're in this room, I'm gonna go in that room. And that is being it till you see it. It's not waiting for them to find you. Kareen Walsh 24:03  Oh, no, no, no. Lesley Logan 24:04  Or until you are ready. Kareen Walsh 24:06  Yeah. No, it's always an action or pick up the phone, I would pick up the phone to or email someone say, hey, I'm really trying to attract these type of people and who do you know, like, we don't do that enough even with our own network of who we know already. Social media has been very interesting. And the, I treat it as like, here's the behind the scenes of my life how I'm doing things and I'm on Instagram, most of it that's a, you know, you see that all the time, right? But I'm more sharing my journey than I and then there's some coaching moments in there. But truly my network, it's my relationships that actually have built what I have. Because it's who knows me that trust me to then recommend me. So getting into those rooms like you said, like, the first time I ever joined a mastermind I remember being so like, imposter syndrome, like am I even worthy of being in here because all the qualifications that were required to get into that mastermind. And then I remember going into it and being told, okay, the only value we got out of this mastermind was meeting you. And I was like, I was worried about coming into the room. And I'm realizing that wasn't a match. But their qualification process was so intense that I thought I was, I had to qualify, but all these other people were let in that were not, you know, and so it was this mismatch of things. But I bring that up because it's still, they all, eventually, a group of them became my clients because it was like, well, I got in the room where I would attract what I was building in, and I stood in integrity in that room, you know. Lesley Logan 25:37  Yeah, I know what you mean, like, one of the first masterminds I was in, the first one who walked up, she was in fitness. And so was I, so am I. And she shared this was a brag and so she does her brag. I'm like, I am not someone who brags. I'm much better bragging now, but this is not how I was (inaudible) And so she does her big bragging. I was like, she has to pass. I'm seeing her the whole time going, what am I bragging about? Like, you know, so I wasn't even listening to anyone else. After she went, I'm like, well, I'm so screwed, you know, and then it was really funny. As I did my brag. I sat down, and the brag was also like, (inaudible) sat down and then at the end of that first day, they said, okay, we want you to partner up with people to be your accountability partner. And she, the first person went up to me, she's like, you, I think scared me enough that I'll get stuff done. I was like, I scared you?Kareen Walsh 26:26  You'll never know. Just show up authentically.Lesley Logan 26:28  I think that's really like the key there. You mentioned manifestation and you mentioned action. And something that I try, because people throw manifesting that word around a lot. Kareen Walsh 26:40  Yes, they do. It is. It's a hot word. Lesley Logan 26:43  It's a hot word. I manifested. Something that will like, makes my skin crawl is when I, Brad and I will meet people in this entrepreneurial world. And they'll say like, oh, what made you move somewhere? Like, my, like, intuition led me there and I'm like, okay, great. I manifested it. I'm like, hey, you've had to do something.Kareen Walsh 27:02  You did something. No, manifestation does not happen without action. Otherwise, it's a dream. Manifestation is that it's literally the manifest it's the coming through of the concept. It's the tangible result. You can't get results without action. So it's just a more woowoo way of saying, you know, I have this vision, I put goals against this vision. And now this vision came to life, same way, we run things you manifested it, manifestation is the whole picture. It's the I visualized it, I did something about it, now it's here. And the visualization is so key, because that's the energy you're putting out into the world. If you do want to be more on the woowoo side, or the spiritual side, or the energy-based side, right? Like, you have to have a very clear vision of what it is that you want, or keep visualizing it like every day, put energy into that vision be like, what does it look like now? How much juicier can it be? What else can I add to it, right? And you just sit in that, and you can sit in visualization. But if you don't do anything about it, it's not going to come. A lot of people also love to say, I can't believe this person just called me today, I was exactly thinking that I wanted this thing. And I got this phone call and I got this thing. I manifested it. Right? Well, you obviously had to say something about it, or put an intention out there. You're still in action. Even that meditative moment is an action. Right? Like, and then the energy around it and how you're carrying your body and the conversations you're having and vocalizing it, then of course, it shows up for you. Because it's so prevalent in your mind that what you focus on you find, so it will show up. Lesley Logan 28:41  Yeah, we've had several brain experts on the podcast who talked about like, the reticular activating system. It's the RAS. And to me, that is the way you could spot that something happened after you thought about it, because your brain has been seeking it out as you've been visualizing it, and asking, and then also taking some action to put yourself in those rooms and those spaces and those opportunities. You wouldn't even like notice, or, you know, Brad, and I've been in some random places were like, wow, that's so crazy that that happened. We ended up making a wrong turn here. It's like, well, no, it's not that crazy. If you think about my brain was seeking out for this thing and the reason we noticed it on that right turn is because my brain was thinking about it, my brain has been thinking about it.Kareen Walsh 29:24  And then you have to say something out loud. So then for Brad to turn the vehicle to go to that destination. Lesley Logan 29:30  Yeah. Yeah. Kareen Walsh 29:32  Because if you just sat there and be like, oh, I thought about that thing. And I was, you just drove right past it. That's not gonna manifest what you were hoping for, like there was still an action, you know, I mean, that brain power is definitely an energy zone and it interacts with what's around us and like, call it in but you will not see it until you actually.Lesley Logan 29:55  So I have one more question for you though on this because I meet a lot of people who like I don't even know what to manifest. I don't even know what my goals are. And part of me is like, is it that they're they don't feel worthy? Or is it that they are scared? Like, do you think that we don't know what our goals are? That there's an opportunity? Or is it just that we get so far away that it feels like lost? Like it's too far away?Kareen Walsh 30:17  I think it's a mix of all the things I think each individual as their journey on, like, who they're becoming, right, and who they are today might not be who they had hoped to be once, right? And so we generally want things out in the world because it represents a part of us that we're trying to put out there. Right? No one really wakes up and says, I want to go do this shit job today, like, that's not the desire, right? Like, you wake up and you're like, I want purpose. And I want, I want to feel desire, and I want to find connection. And I, you know, the human needs are still the same for all of us. I want some variety. I want some excitement, you know, and sometimes when we get into a monotonous way of living, we convince ourselves again, it's that same energy, we convince ourselves, we're fine, that we're not looking inward as to why our vision is not clear. And I think that's, that is the inner awakening that has to happen to say, the worthiness of dreaming again, because you talked about self-worth, I think, when we sit in the I don't know energy, I'm fine. If you're sitting there, you're doing a lot of shoulder shrugging in your life, right? Like, ah, like, there's no real excitement to the life that you've been given that is so freakin short. Like I said, time is so limited. That that's the shakeup I would do first, to allow yourself to realize what I have been showing up for is no longer a fit for who I am, or who I desired to be. Shake it up. Shake it up and allow yourself to dream again and say now from this dance without all the veil of darkness of the things I've been tolerating or the things I've been convincing myself, I'm okay with, how can I dream from this place? What do I want the what I want this best version of me to have not the fine version, the fine version of you gets mediocre results, right? The best version of you gets you good results, the outstanding version of you will get you excellent results. Like it's really again that and interaction of energy and like what you focus on, but I would say if anyone is sitting in that energy of self-doubt and procrastination, even like we talked about earlier, or just uncertainty of like, what do I do next? I would say do the inner work to understand what's not working right now in my life, that I would like to uplevel and shift, you know.Lesley Logan 32:50  I think, I mean, I know you're right, I believe exactly what you're saying because especially if the people around you are making you doubt yourself. That's not an environment for growth of any ideas. And so you do have to shake it up. Or if you can't change that situation, you do have to find a place to like,park yourself during the day to at least have moments where you can have yourself be poured into and there's so many different ways now to get poured into by people for free. Because the podcasts that are out there, (inaudible) this person is my mentor. Kareen Walsh 33:24  Yeah, no, you really can and listen to the conversations, but then do the work to say okay, how do I now integrate that thought that really inspired me into action in my life? Right? Like there's there's something about absorbing it all, which is amazing. But if you're a perpetual student, and not someone who takes action towards what it is that you feel you want next, there's a it's a mismatch, right? You're going to be back in that fine shoulder shrugging situation. So finding the courage to take action and even the smallest ones, like I always say, you know, two minutes a day on that new thing. Then make it four minutes, then make it five minutes, then, you know, then the half an hour or whatever that is, and just stand in it for a little longer to realize it's a fit or not. Yeah, because sometimes we also have these aspirational things. I love that person was so inspiring, so aspirational. I want to go that direction. You try it on yourself. And you're like, oh, it was not a fit like this is not what I'm meant to be, that's great for them, not for me. So permission to move on. Right? Lesley Logan 34:25  Yeah, I love, everyone else who is listening, I've been hobby hunting. I really love this hobby that I picked up this at the end of this year. I'm like, I'm gonna give it 12 weeks because like, I've picked it up before and I'm gonna give it 12 weeks. And I was like, I really just wanted to do it at home because every place I have to go to it's late at night (inaudible) and so I like this, but I don't like how it's existing out there. And so it's not that I like quit it. It's just like it's on pause until it can be (inaudible) convenient. Yeah, yeah. Kareen Walsh 34:50  Exactly and I liked the note removing excuses. Do you know what I mean? Like by bringing it in, then there's no longer excuse of timing or like the mismatch of schedule or it can travel with you, or whatever that looks like. Lesley Logan 35:04  Yeah, and I think and I do think it's that I love that you mentioned earlier, it's like permission to change your mind, it's okay. And also doing that inner work to really understand how you want to tap into your power and who you want to be. Kareen Walsh 35:15  It's also a permission to fumble. Right? So that's the other permissioning that I tend to, to share where it's like, for example, if I'm gonna go do like a keynote talk, and I always am like, I might trip up those stairs, like, I might trip up those stairs on my way out there, I might forget my words, or I might, I might blank out, you know, and now I can literally sit and all the fear of the what ifs that could go wrong. And I have to give myself permission to fumble, because I will recover. Right? We will always step back up like, you trip, you step back up, you fall, you get up like there's—to only focus on the negative and not the what could happen once that happens, like what you choose to do in that moment. So I also give myself permission to fumble.Lesley Logan 35:59  Well, our mutual friend Chelsea Peitz has found that there is scientific research that people will trust people who make mistakes publicly more than the perfectly curated (inaudible) like yeah.Kareen Walsh 36:12  It's relatable. We all fumble, we are all human. There isn't a perfect way to do anything. It's just the right way for right now. And it's can be super messy. So like, step into it. And it's actually quite beautiful. I, personally, when I do fall, because I do, I laugh at myself, because I think I always think of the perspective of someone watching me falling. (Inaudible) I know, it literally is like, oh my god, if someone was standing there and saw me (inaudible) that's hilarious. Lesley Logan 36:41  Yeah, I have super long legs. I'm like how am I still standing? They're doing something down there.Kareen Walsh 36:49  But imagine the perspective of someone else watching it. I don't know. I just think it's funny.Lesley Logan 36:53  I walked into a pole once. And I laughed so hard. At first I was stunned and I was like, how many people drove by to watch me just like, walk right into that pole?Kareen Walsh 37:06  My favorite one was last summer I was in Nantucket and on an electric bike and getting used to it. I'm not a bike rider because I had an accident when I was seven that like messed up my face. And so anyway, I got on this electric bike and I'm doing this turn and this lawn service truck was supposed to go around this roundabout. And so I was gauging as if it was gonna move and it didn't move. So I like I had to Jimmy around and ended up slamming into a parked jeep. And I like shoulder-checked it, right? Like I was like, oh, like this and then I backed up. I was like, the car is okay. I was more concerned about, it was so funny. Like the things that happen when you're in the moment you just don't know (inaudible) on the bike and I went Lesley Logan 37:54  That's one way to be it till you see it, like, just start laughing at yourself (inaudible) and you probably come somebody doesn't actually take yourself to seriously.Kareen Walsh 38:03  So in trying when you try new things too, give it a few attempts, but allow yourself the fun of trying something new. That's like being a kid again. You know, and I don't think we do that enough either. And again, that brings the dreams back or the more kid-like you are the more playful you are go color go dance, go do the things that all of a sudden lights you up comes back to you.Lesley Logan 38:25  I went to circus school as I wanted because I live where there's a circus school and I want and they had this like trial thing. You could try a different circus thing. So I knew for a fact that I wasn't gonna do trapeze. One of it was at the end. And it was like, I didn't have 90 minutes. I had like 75 And I was like there is in zero lifetime am I letting go of that? Thanks. I don't want to get stuck up. I just, I know myself enough to know that's a little beyond my skill level today. Doesn't mean it's a never it's just not right now. So, but, I'm in this circus class. It's me and two boys and the boys are seven and 11 (inaudible) so, their moms are they're like watching (inaudible) watching this try out silks and watching the trampolines and I was like, oh, trampoline, (inaudible) like this. I loved I had the best time they were doing 7/11 year old students, right, and I was there like having the best time. I laughed out loud. They were like trying to bounce me off (inaudible) the moms just were like (inaudible).Kareen Walsh 39:27  (Inaudible) did we hire a nanny and forget? Lesley Logan 39:31  (Inaudible) this ball pit and I was like, I don't know, guys, can you go first? Because like, I don't know, they, like, you know, did seven-year-old (inaudible) okay, I could do it, too. But I was like (inaudible) because I'm like, I'm 40 in a (inaudible) class, but you, it really made me you get this dopamine high then you're like I can like life is actually quite fun. So good. We can keep going. But so we'll just have to have you back. Kareen Walsh 39:57  Yeah, any time. Lesley Logan 39:58  But I want to ask where people can find you, follow you, work with you? Kareen Walsh 40:00  Sure. So well, obviously, if you want access to the new platform, it's HeyKareen.com and just join the waitlist so that you get first to know because I'm, that's going to hopefully come out this summer. I don't know when this episode will air , but.Lesley Logan 40:13  Probably at the same time. (Inaudible) waitlist (inaudible) Kareen Walsh 40:16  Or you'll be able to download it because it's just phenomenal. So that's HeyKareen.com. And then anything to work with me truly like the latest thing that I've launched for more in depth strategic time that I think is a nice quick hit, is that I have a four hour half day strategy session that I offer now. That is Kareenwalsh.com/halfday, if you're interested in like a quick spurt of like, what am I doing that needs to shift in order to like, achieve what I want to achieve this year in business. That's a really nice way to get started. And you just like, apply there, and then we'll figure out a time to work together. But truly, like, if you're wanting to step into vision work, and like, reignite, that I would download my SLP program, which helps you go through my vision exercises, and then jump into action and strategy on how to achieve it. So that's a korean.com/slp. Lesley Logan 41:10  Perfect, I'll put all those in the show notes. You've given us a lot of action steps already. So if you want to bring him back, we can but we all have to give the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it something that's like the "too long" it's not that they didn't listen, but they're like, hold on,Kareen Walsh 41:31  What do I take away? Lesley Logan 41:32  Got to do some action. Because yes, I love, you know, how I built this, But how the hell do you take the next step? So, anything you have for us?Kareen Walsh 41:42  I mean, if you really want to step into a life of like integrity of who you're meant to become, and like how to manifest it, if we want to use that word or achieve it or just stand in it, like have it actually be what you're proud of showing up in? I would say the best action first is to look inward and assess where are you out of integrity, and see what you can do to tweak that to make it a little bit better. Because even just that small seven, it's actually a big exercise, but it in the sense of like the inner work to do and to look inward. But I feel like if you're able to do that, then you'll have a better clearer lens on what you truly desire. So what you want to actually be becomes clearer. It's it's an inner work step. But I feel like without that, everything else is just more noise. Lesley Logan 42:38  Yeah, it is more stuff. And like we don't need we don't always need more.Kareen Walsh 42:42  We know a lot of the how but I've been focusing a lot about the who, who do we have to become to stand in the life and the business we want to lead? Yeah. And that's one of the first steps. Lesley Logan 42:54  Yeah, you have been helping me this year a lot. Because I was like, sometimes feeling stuck. But I was like, how do we if we want to go to another level? Like, I gotta go to another level. How do I go? Who do I need to be to this thing? And also, like, I'm gonna know that I never did what I did before now. So now it's like, another thing. And really like thinking about that, who and like, what that is? And what does that look like? And what does that feel like? And what are the words around that? What is the schedule around that? Kareen Walsh 43:24  What do you have to let go to create room for it like, yeah, so the whole part is more of what I've been focusing on to be it until you see it. Lesley Logan 43:34  I love that. No one's ever focused on the who in over 400 episodes. So thank you, Kareen, for that. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tag Kareen, tag the Be It Pod. Let us know and do us a favor, share this with a friend if you've got that friend who has been shrugging, shrugging. You should send this to them. You only have to tell them, hey, you've been (inaudible) a lot. You can just send it to them and then they'll hear (inaudible) We can do that for them. So thank you all so very much for being who you are. Kareen, thank you for being you. And until next time, everyone, be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 44:09  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 44:36  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 44:51  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 44:56  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 45:01  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 45:08  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 45:11  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Super grateful to have spent some time with Kareen as she was booked solid for her trip down to South Florida for clients and master mind groups. As she states, "Im a lot" and its because she goes above and beyond for other people and has done so for over a decade in the professional and business development space.One of my favorite lines from her page and while talking is that she is "all up in your business" and likes to take a deep dive, under the hood to see the whole process, any workplace traumas and have a common goal and understanding of how to get there. She is a healer, super connector, differentiator and part of a mastermind group with many other successful professionals where she evolves and helps others to do that on their journey. When Kareen comes across something she wants to learn more about she's all in and goes into an immersive process that allows her to better understand how it could help her and in return help her clients which lens to her belief that "you must serve yourself first before you serve others"Her routine is steadfast even with all her travels. She allows herself to wake up without any alarm or distraction that can jolt her out of her sleep pattern, already has her day planned from the night before, writes out her fresh intentions, meditation, breath work and off to the gym to get the body moving. For more you're going to have to tune into the show and hear her journey to where she is today as she has overcome obstacles and done so with grace, honesty and just being her. You can reach Kareen on instagram  @kareenzwalsh or Linkedin: kareen walsh or her personal website www.kareenwalsh.com. Enjoy the show and have a most triumphant day!

In this episode of 'After the Show,' I am going to dive into my key takeaways from my discussion with Kareen Walsh.I first want to talk about what it might mean if you have an 'exit strategy' mindset even if not planning to exit. But what I really wanted to focus on is the unmatched advantage of creativity in independent retail against giants like Amazon. In this episode, I urge you to prioritize your creativity for the health of your business.[00:00] Welcome to Rooted in Retail: After the Show[01:12] Some thoughts about exiting your business[03:12] As an independent retailer you have the advantage of creativity[05:19] Can you make being creative in your store a priority?[06:02] Ideas for being more creative with your physical space[07:10] Final thoughts for this week[08:39] Coming up Next WeekCatch the full interview here: Build a Business and Life You Love with Kareen Walsh:  https://www.crystalmediaco.com/episodes/build-a-business-and-life-you-love-with-kareen-walsh/Join the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/rootedinretail

Are you ready to learn how to craft a business and a life that you truly love? Well, today, we're diving deep into just that with the incredible Kareen Walsh. She's a friend and mentor who has mastered the art of building a business while staying true to herself.Kareen's evolution from a people-pleaser to seven-figure business builder is truly inspiring. Through her Evolve methodology, she empowers clients to transition from feeling lost to discovering alignment as they scale their businesses and step into their ultimate visions for their lives and careers.In this episode, she shares her framework for building that store of your dreams. We'll discuss the power of community engagement, the benefits of partnerships with neighboring businesses, and the game-changing potential of retail technology like Shopify.Now, get ready for an epic episode filled with actionable strategies for building the business and life you've always dreamed of. This conversation is all about harnessing your unique strengths, embracing continuous growth, and crafting a roadmap to success. [00:00] Welcoming Kareen Walsh[03:20] How does identifying your unique zone of genius translate into tangible benefits?[08:57] Kareen's advice for getting over the fear of handing off tasks when you hire support[12:47] How can we identify the changes we need to make in ourselves to align our business goals?[16:16] How independent retailers can apply Kareen's metholodogy to handle the challenges of running a retail business and cultivate a growth mindset[21:51] Where you can learn more about Kareen's business intensives[23:10] What are the first steps independent retailers can take to begin translating their vision into actionable steps that lead to growth?[28:21] How Kareen nurtures her own growth while also uplifting others to expand their businesses[31:47] Kareen's resilience roundLinks:Join the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/rootedinretail/Get all of the resources mentioned in the episode on our website - https://www.crystalmediaco.com/episodes/build-a-business-and-life-you-love-with-kareen-walsh/Join the Rooted in Retail Facebook Group to continue the conversation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/rootedinretail

Dive with Lesley and Brad into the intricate world of cults and their underlying psychology. Gain insights into the red flags and concept of bounded choices that hint at cult-like behaviors.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Key red flags to be aware of when entering a group.Traits of cults and steps to take if you're entangled in one.Strategies to ensure your group or business remains cult-free.Tips on selecting trustworthy people to associate with.The significance of visualizing your desired future and planning in reverse.Episode References/Links:Join Our Coaching Team For Seven Days Of Tackling Your Biz StrugglesCambodia Pilates RetreatJoin our email list!Free WebinarDaniella Mestyanek Young's websiteEp 27: Is Your Hustle Now Just a Hassle? (ft. Kareen Walsh)  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Get your 15% discount for Toe Sox – use coupon code LESLEY15Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship Join us at our Cambodia Retreat - Oct. 8-13, 2023FREE Ditching Busy WebinarAmy Ledin - Episode 5: "How to take fast action against limiting beliefs" ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  One of the things to like be aware of is they do things in a coercive place, and she called it bounded choice. So you think you have fear, you start you think you have freedom, but really, there's this coercive control. There's this like pressure, like you think you could, like, maybe not come on a Thursday, but then everyone's like, "Why aren't you here?"Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It Interview Recap where my co-host and my friend and I are going to talk about the illuminate (Brad: The what?)Lesley Logan 0:20  Leave it in. The illuminative. I saw that and I was like this is not gonna go out (Brad: Illuminative.) Illuminative? (Brad: Yeah.) You're gonna put that before her name? (Brad: Yeah.) Convo I had with Daniella Mestyanek Young. In our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now. Go back and listen now. And like, I know I said this every week, but fucking go listen to that one.Brad Crowell 0:47  Oh, it's a great episode. Lesley Logan 0:48  She is amazing. And since then, she has been quoted in the, it was it was the Washington Post or The Wall Street Journal. Either one is still like, like badass like, not just like one quote, like, they did a whole profile on her because of like, like, because of the expertise she has in this topic. And so anyways, we're gonna get a little culty here. Well, actually, we're gonna get unculty is what we're gonna do in this episode.Brad Crowell 1:16  So congratulations. You're all cult members now? Lesley Logan 1:20  No, no, we are not a cult. We are a group. We are just a group.Brad Crowell 1:25  I know what it's the opposite of everything that she stands for. We are a group. That's what she stands for. We're just a group. Brad Crowell 1:32  We're just a group. It's a good group.Lesley Logan 1:33  You know, I think we talked about this in the podcast, we're going to do a segment she asked like, before we hit record, like, is Pilates like culty? And I said, oh, it can be (Brad: And you laughed.) I laughed. (Brad: Yeah.) I totally laughed. I said, it can be. It's like a scuff. Like a true scuff, right? And recently, I was traveling somewhere and it like, there are some people that might think that they're like part of a group. But like, if you can't go to another person's thing, because of the group you're in, that's a cult. (Brad: That's a cult.) You should be able to go and explore other groups without offending people in your group anyways,Brad Crowell 2:10  No, in no way shape, or form is one person 100% correct. (Lesley: No.) Literally not possible.Brad Crowell 2:18  I am on a fucking mission when it comes to the Pilates industry. And I'm, you know, I'll I'll probably die trying but I just I want people it's supposed to be fun. It's a fucking workout. And like you're never supposed to stop learning. And you can not agree with someone who could not like something that they do or the way that they do it. That doesn't mean you could only like someone else. Anyways, today is September 21, 2023. And it's World Gratitude Day. And this day aims to remind us of the importance of expressing gestures of thanks and appreciation. (Brad: I'm grateful for the 12 apostles of Pilates.)Lesley Logan 2:57  Hear you now. I actually really like this, because ways you can express gratitude, just like just just maybe like, maybe for maybe for the day, like, just set a reminder, like set a note that when you're procrastinating to just text, anybody in your contacts list. Hey, you know what, thanks for saying that one thing a month ago, I just thought of you. And I really remember when you said that, like, just try for one day to sending random acts of gratitude in your text messages. You have no idea whenever I get those from a friend. (Brad: Yeah.) It's like they always come at the time where you're like,Brad Crowell 3:31  You need them the most. Lesley Logan 3:32  When you're like, why the fuck do I even exist?Lesley Logan 3:36  So anyways, not to be dramatic. But seriously, it's really true. And, you know, and something that I did while I was traveling is I was like, waiting for a door to open. So I was scrolling through stories, which is like something I never do. And there was people who are posting things that are friends of mine or tangentially. And like, instead of responding in their DMs I texted them, my response would be in their DMs. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, because it's way more fun to text back and forth you know I did some voice text messages. Anyway, I could have done it. I could have done it, the DMs but it's complicated. And so I just, I also want people to see in there. I don't want people to scare their text messages. Like, you know, anyways, (inaudible) today. Brad Crowell 4:15  Yeah, I mean, even even if you don't have a specific thing that you're grateful for about them, just texting them and say, hey, I was thinking about you. Yeah, is magic. Yes. You know, so and I really encourage you to make a habit of if somebody pops into your head, tell them and you don't have to tell them what you thought about you can but it could just be like, hey, I was thinking about you hope you're loving life. Lesley Logan 4:41  Did we talk about this on the podcast about Tasha? Brad Crowell 4:43  We, actually we have, a couple weeks ago, Lesley Logan 4:47  Okay, yeah, I'm not kidding. Like me just thinking I just we we made a funny little voice note. I'm like, we're in my dreams. And it was like the thing she needed for that. Brad Crowell 4:57  Yeah, that was uplifting. Yeah. anyways, today's World Gratitude Day so you know, (Lesley: Go be grateful.) Do it. Be fucking grateful. Lesley Logan 5:05  This is your cult leader speaking. (Brad: Be grateful.) It felt like you were doing the as you wish.Brad Crowell 5:19  Yeah, right.Lesley Logan 5:21  We also we literally just wrapped up Agency Mini 9. Wow. Wow. Wow. So much fun. And I am going to have to learn how to like voice to text my computer for at least a week to get my finger.Brad Crowell 5:34  Oh, that's my jam. That's what I do now.Lesley Logan 5:36  I know I just don't think that any of the things understand my words at all. At all. Brad Crowell 5:44  Well, you can blame Siri for that.Lesley Logan 5:46  I don't know, maybe I don't speak English well.Brad Crowell 5:49  I think you're just fine. I think you're just fine.Lesley Logan 5:52  Well, Siri doesn't understand my accent. Anyways, we just wrapped it up. It was phenomenal. It was fucking amazing. It's brilliant. If you're like, Oh, my God, I missed it. You did? And the next one isn't until probably in six months. I don't actually have the dates in front of me. I don't think we've set them. And the truth is we do it twice a year. But we've been constantly only doing once a year. And we're where are we got a big team meeting coming up. So get on the waitlist. And we'll let you know when the next one is, it's profitablepilates.com/mini. And I'll put you on the waitlist for that. Anyways, you guys were amazing. You're awesome. And my only ask is that you take some action this week, take messy action. Take that information, because once you start to take action with it becomes less overwhelming.Brad Crowell 6:34  If you're wondering what Mini is it's a seven day brief snippet of our fitness business coaching program.Lesley Logan 6:41  I thought they were all on the cult. Brad Crowell 6:42  Yeah. No, we're not speaking a language that only cult members know. And it will help you lay the foundation of who you are, what it is that you do what you actually offer, who you're trying to connect with. And then how do you communicate that in a way that attracts those clients to you? And that's the key. You know, once you understand those things, what do you do with it? It's how you put that all out there and the way that you're speaking and the things that you're saying are going to attract the clients that you want to work with. So it's like an amazing week. It's absolutely worth you like exploring that. Whether you've been in business for two months or 20 years. You should do agency mini. So get yourself on the waitlist go to profitablepilates.com/mini.Lesley Logan 7:28  Yeah. And then we're a couple weeks away from getting our passes on the plane. Yeah, going to Cambodia, we'll be there for a while. (Brad: I could not wait) and it's actually gonna be really exciting because they've been making some massive changes to the infrastructure there. (Brad: Yeah, crazy changes.) Part of me is like, I really I'm grateful for the sidewalks it does mean I won't get ran over by tuk-tuk. But also, like there was something cool about like, walking (Brad: Field adventures.) while massive, like, huge buses like just like going by. (Brad: It totally do.) So anyways, we are so excited to be going there. We've got an incredible group, our house is full. If you are like someone who's like makesBrad Crowell 8:10  We're taking one of the two rooms that our manager has. (Lesley: Oh, we are?) Yeah. (Lesley: We moved her out? (Brad: Well, not moved her out. But she sent her kids to her dad's their dad's place.) (Lesley: Oh, that's amazing.) Yeah. Because we needed the rooms. Lesley Logan 8:25  Yeah. Well, that's so cool. So anyways, we'll be there for a few weeks. And if you are wanting to go on the next one, because the reality is, is that unless you really love flying (inaudible) and booking a trip across the world in two weeks, or maybe you live in Thailand, you want to come if you visit LesleyLogan.co/retreat.Brad Crowell 8:43  Very easy to come from Singapore, PS.Lesley Logan 8:44  Yeah, and also like (Brad: Singapore, India, you know, it's all very quick.) Yeah, it's all very, very quick. You can also come from any other place in the world. It's just a little longer. And then November, we'll be I'll be in Chicago, with Erika Quest. So we've got some workshops going on over there. Brad Crowell 9:04   And stay tuned on the Instagrams for that. Lesley Logan 9:06  Yeah, or our email list. So you can do that.Brad Crowell 9:11  Go to opc.me/email. Lesley Logan 9:13  Oh, perfect. Do that. And then we'll on December, we'll be back on our winter tour. We're actually in meetings as we, as this episode drops on what that tour is going to look like and cities and all that. So we should have those details out. And they will be of course announced here, but mostly if you are on that, if you're on the email, Brad Crowell 9:32  Yeah, but it's actually opc.me/emails I got that wrong. It's plural,Lesley Logan 9:36  Plural, plural. This team will get it. Okay. We want to get all into Daniella but firstly, the audience question. Brad Crowell 9:44  We do, we have a question. So this week, we had a question from when you were recently in Poland, and you were there teaching a workshop and it was basically was mostly about Controllogy right. I mean, it was a, it was a classical Pilates conference. Yes, it was you and Karen Frischmann. And then also Jay zoomed in, right. Yes. Jay zoomed in. So fun. Yeah, amazing. Lesley Logan 10:10  It was so fun. I thought he was just gonna like do a Q&A. Because Jimmy Buffett died. I wouldn't had margaritas with a couple girls for like, I don't know, Jimmy Buffett is like, Oh, my God, we must have margaritas. And we had a margarita upstairs. We came downstairs, I jumped into the mat class.Brad Crowell 10:25  Oh, like you do?Lesley Logan 10:27  I was so sore the next day, but I think it actually helped me relax.Brad Crowell 10:32  Well, the question that you got there was, how is it possible that you do all the things that you do and still have a life? How do you balance your work and your life?Lesley Logan 10:41  So I love this question. Shout out to Ivana, she asked, actually, she asked Jay, a really awesome question similar to this. She asked him like, what do you do about the clients who just want you to like, work them out? You know? And so he was on us? And then she was just like a question. Like, I think people have these questions, and they don't ask it. So clearly, people think I have work life balance, and I'm gonna tell you right now, balance is a lie. And when I told so here's just, here's the thing, our yoga teacher, Brad, he told us that balance is the art of not falling over, right? Like in a handstand, or a headstand, the ability to hold that is you maneuver in between, like leaning too much one way and then you correct and then you might overcorrect and things like that. And so what what I try to get people to understand is like, stop striving for balance. Also, what balance is to you on a Monday is very different to what balance to use on Friday. Or if you have kids, maybe there's a different version of balance when they're in school versus when they're at home. And so, so I don't search for balance, I search for making sure my schedule fills my cup, every single day. So I can show up for what the task is at hand. And I tried to make sure it's really hard for us, because there's two of us. And so sometimes when you're working it's different than when I'm working. And sometimes you have a question about work. And I'm like, but I'm not working right now. The answer is this is first, we actually do have a free webinar about how I create a schedule, which also talks about my scheduling tool, but you can just you can enjoy that or just watch that. I think it's called I think it's is it ditchingbusy.com?Brad Crowell 12:25  Yeah, I was just looking that up almost positive. That's what it is. Yeah.Lesley Logan 12:28  So did you ditchingbusy.com. It's a free webinar. It's all my business stuff. But like, it explains how I created a schedule, (Brad: It is. ditchingbusy.com) So it's free, go enjoy. It's how I create a schedule. Yeah. It's also something I teach in Agency Mini, but what every morning has in it are the things that helped me fill my cup, so I can show up for the rest of the day. And I also know the signs that I'm out of balance. And I think that's very important. What are the symptoms that you like? Are you cranky? Do you snap at people? Are you exhausted at the end of the day? What are those signs, so that you can actually look at the next day and see if there's anything you can take off your plate. And ladies, I know you don't like to cancel your friends, like you want to be that person. But you can just say, I'm actually really overwhelmed right now. And there's nothing more I want to do is see you but you don't want to see me right now. Because I'm not going to be the best awesome person. That is way better than us showing up. What Why are you laughing?Brad Crowell 13:24  Just remembering that dinner? (Lesley: What dinner?) The one where we had someone tell us that they just weren't ready to be present in this exact moment. So I'm gonna excuse myself.Lesley Logan 13:37  Yeah, she already called an Uber by the way. I you know, it's part of me and like, it's like,Brad Crowell 13:42  I look preempted, don't show up. And then pleaseLesley Logan 13:45  Try to do it before you get there. Anyways, because like also, it just is so weird. But the reality is you have the more you get to know yourself. And the more you acknowledge like that, when you just say like, I am not imbalanced right now I am out of balance that can take a whole load off and then ask yourself, what are the what what happened to get you here? Are you maybe like when we have a launch going on? You think Agency Mini is balance? No, no. Here's what we do, though. So we can show up. We have our morning routines are on point, we have our food delivered. We do not miss our workouts, but we do not go out to dinner with people. We do notBrad Crowell 14:27  We try to we try to remove everything else that from the entire week if we if we possibly can.Lesley Logan 14:32  Yeah, if we possibly can. We're really clear like the beginning of the week, we can probably have a meeting or two but towards the end of the week. It's an absolute zero, no, nothing other than that. But the week before and the week after we are we're giving ourselves we'll also give ourselves an opportunity to get things ready so we can be so we're sleeping where we're making sure we have time to ourselves. In fact, we take days off. So the point of this is to sum it up too long to read watch the webinar and to stop trying to find balance. And just be honest with yourself. Are you in a season where you're building something up? (Brad: Yeah) If so, what are you going to do to rest and repair and refuel. And if you're in a season of like, hey, everything's flowing smooth, then enjoy that, and let your creativity juices fly, but stop going, oh my God, I've gotta like, every days with the perfect day, this is not the 1950s. And by the way, y'all they were not actually that happy. All the movies make it look, they're so happy. They were having Manhattan's every night, and like not telling each other was going on. SoBrad Crowell 15:32  I think I think the the idea of like, balance with work and life, ultimately, it comes down to the decision you make in and what's going to what, what's too much you'll know, because you're very unhappy, your fried or your you know, all those things. And realizing, you know, when you've crossed that threshold of holy cow, because like, you know, I mean, we are business owners, right? We, we work all day, work all day, every day. But we don't think about it that way. I'm not like if something breaks at 10pm. Guess what I have to fix it, have to, you know, so but, you know, I might take two to 3pm and take a walk, you know, so it's your choice of what you're doing and when you're doing it, and what you need to realize is that you're that's what that balance is is like, hey, you know what, I have a light afternoon, I think I'm gonna take advantage of it. Like last Friday, I went out to lunch with our neighbor. And I mean, I haven't seen him in like six months. So it's weird that we will live next to each other and we never get the chance to go out. But I didn't have any meetings booked, which is abnormal. And I was like, let's take advantage of this and actually take the afternoon. And we went and we just hung out. Right and so sometimes that happens and other times I have to work during the afternoon and that's okay. Brad Crowell 15:54  Yeah. And then just like a quick tip if you are someone who's an overscheduler you see an empty space in your calendar, you're like yes, I can fit that in. Then you to block in like actual like schedule actual rest breaks. You also cannotBrad Crowell 17:12  I had to put lunch directly into my schedule. I don't remember to do if I don't have lunch in my schedule. I forget to eat. Lesley Logan 17:18  I think we did that two years ago. And it was like one of the best things that ever happened for either one of us. Yes, No body books calls. Anyways, there's just different hacks you have to do and then also just because the people around you are hustling like crazy, doesn't mean that you're hustling something different. That reminds me what ended on this Kareen, Episode 53? She was at 53.Brad Crowell 17:39  I'm we're gonna find out.Lesley Logan 17:41  She said might have been 23 but I feel like it's 53 I feel like she wasn't as early as everyone else. My friends, but she saidBrad Crowell 17:51  You were definitely off the mark, 27. (Lesley: 27. 20 was my second guess.) She was early. Episode 27 Kareen Walsh.Lesley Logan 18:00  She said, "Don't let your hustle become a hassle." And I think when she said that, that's kind of like a like a thing. Like if I feel really big, I'm working really hard. If it starts to feel like a hassle, like, oh my God, then I go, okay, what's going on here? Yeah. When did I say yes to these things? I think ladies, we tried to do everything like that, that I, somebody just followed, posted something because like, I don't know which magazine but Paris Hilton was on the cover. And they're like, look, she's like, rock and being a mom and a full-time business owner and this she's got all the things figured out. And I was like, What the fuck? When are we going to stop telling ladies that that's possible? No fucking way Paris Hilton has it all figured out? No offense, Paris. You're awesome. But there's, you have nannies. You have housekeepers. You have chefs, you have cooks, you have someone organizing your sets. The way they wrote the title was a Paris Hilton is like doing it all. And she can because she has a team. So if you are solo, you cannot do it all. You can only do what is possible in the amount of time you have. And the more you take care of yourself, the more you can get things done, period. Okay, now.Brad Crowell 19:11  Let's move on.Lesley Logan 19:13  Send your questions into the pod. We love them.Brad Crowell 19:16  Yeah, ask those questions. Lesley Logan 19:17  We love them.Brad Crowell 19:18  Okay, now let's talk about Daniella Mestyanek Young, a former intelligence officer, renowned scholar on cults and the compelling voice behind the memoir, Uncultured. Her life journey from the confines of a religious sect cult to the frontlines of the US Army is a testament to resilience and the power of transformation. (Lesley: She's a badass.) She's badass. (Lesley: She's an intelligence officer in the military)Brad Crowell 19:43  In her like mid to late 20s. Lesley Logan 20:04  Yes, yeah. Yes. And that's, by the way, (Brad: who is in the field) who is in the field. She was one of the first women allowed in field. And also she ran a virtual Boston Marathon and she won for the military. (Brad: Really?) And like, yes, yes. (Brad: How do you do that?) And she met Obama, and she was one of the few officers like invited. Yeah. Oh, no, no way. Yeah, you gotta listen to the book. You got to do it. We like we have like, this is, by the way. This is badass. Like, like, you know, fucking amazing human being. I listened. I found her on a cult show I listened to and I DM-ed her and she was like, Yeah, sounds so fun. And she like, I was just like, oh my god, I'm getting Daniella on the show. So great. Anyways, um, she's just really honest. And also she had all of that without having a formal education guys. She didn't go to school until high school. So, yeah. (Brad: Oh, I didn't know that.) No, the Children of God don't teach them how to read anything. Yeah, anyways. Okay, you gotta read the book. Warning, it is difficult. They're like, if you there's a trigger on like, the sex abuse that is in there. But it's also so important that we actually know what these places are doing. Because you got to know the science guys, you gotta know the science. So go read the book. So okay, I love so many things. But she she gave advice on what a cult disguise could look like. And of course, she said nobody joins a cult. And that's true.Brad Crowell 21:34  Yeah, that I found. I found really interesting. You know that you don't realize that it is what it is.Lesley Logan 21:41  Well, everyone else say I would never join a cult. (Brad: Right.) Like, okay, (Brad: Well, me neither.) Well, me neither. Of course not. But like, in L.A. there's so many cults. Brad Crowell 21:51  There are so many cults.Lesley Logan 21:52  Oh my god. There's so many cults. Brad Crowell 21:54  Yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a Erawan cult.Lesley Logan 21:58  Shut up. I mean, maybe there's a small one that I don't know who's leading it. But I will say like, there were some books there was there. First of all, NXIVM was notorious for doing their workshops in L.A., there was landmark that everyone in their mother was like trying to get you to come to their graduation, which by the way, was a cult. Sorry, there. But don't sue me. But like there's so many in L.A., obviously, Scientology being the biggest one. (Brad: Right.) Every time we drove by that church, I just like oh, my god, can they see us? Do they have our license plate number? Drive fast. But anyway, she said no one joins a cult, they join a group that is doing something that is feeding their soul. And even there was like yoga classes that were so cultish.Brad Crowell 22:45  I just, I gotta hop in here. I just found a Yelp listing for the top 10 Best religious cults near Los Angeles, California.Lesley Logan 22:58  Oh, my God is (inaudible). Brad Crowell 23:00  No, I mean, but it's funny. They're like, it's it's a lot of churches.Lesley Logan 23:04  Yeah. So but the but people join a place that feeds their soul, they join things that are doing like this. They join things that are like making an impact on the world that aligns with your values. And so she actually said that people listening to this podcast are likely to be people who could end up joining a cult because you are seekers, seekers of information, right. So. So they give you these big missions. And of course, you're a part of it. Now, there are just groups. I like to think that we are just a group. But she said like there are some red flags that you should look into, especially in the recruiting thing. So, we'll kind of get into that in a second. But like, one of the things to like be aware of is they do things in a coercive place, and she called it bounded choice. So you think you have fear, you start you think you have freedom, but really, there's this coercive control. There's this like pressure, like you think you could, like, maybe not come on a Thursday, but then everyone's like, why aren't you here? For example, one of my clients went to this weekend event, and she decided she didn't like it on day two. So she decided to come to my class. And in my call during my class, her phone was texted four times, or four times in an hour going, where are you why didn't you come? Why don't you get on a call with us let's see if we can get you back? It's like, if she can't miss the third day, that she paid for. It is her choice to not be there. If you are like, dragging her back. And there's something weird going on.Brad Crowell 24:35  Yeah, I mean, I just wanted to rip rip down the top the 10 things that she does, like how she considers a cult, defines a call. So, number one, there's a charismatic leader. Number two, there's a single sacred assumption that all of the people assume. Number three, there's a transcendent mission. Number four, there's self-sacrifice required. Five limiting access to the outside world six, unique language meaning like, like we were joking about at the beginning of this episode about Agency Mini. And if you don't know what that means, then you're not in the cult, right? Like that's the unique language. Then the next is an us versus them mentality, then exploitation of the members, high exit cost. Maybe you lose your community, your friends, all that you're ostracized. And then lastly, it. It should eventually shifts into an ends justify the means mentality.Lesley Logan 25:33  Oh, yeah. So here's what's interesting. While I was in Poland, one of the people was talking to they had, they had stopped working with one of the groups, I won't name it in the Pilates world, because they had this like summit where they brought in all of their teachers. And they said, Well, these things are the things that you can teach. But if you want to teach these things, you have to be part of the inner circle, because we have to trust (Brad: There's a fucking inner circle?) She said, she's got a fucking said inner circle, and like, oh, do they not know how to build a cult, you're not supposed to actually say that. That's the quiet part. You don't say out loud.Brad Crowell 26:08  By joke, seriously, like,Lesley Logan 26:12  and someone else we coach was like, I want to do this thing. But like, it's not clear if I can do this thing. And there have been people who've done this thing, and they've been kicked out. And there's other people who didn't do this thing. And they didn't get kicked out nice. And the particular thing that she was doing Brad Crowell 26:23  The reality of kicked out, that's the that's one of the problems. I mean, that's a problem. Lesley Logan 26:27  And I said to her, I said, you're in a cult. Now, it might not feel like one but the fact that you can't provide this thing that is in no way a threat to them. And in fact, all it's doing is propelling the mission that should be theirs forward. That scares me for you. (Brad: Yeah.) And the fact that you're worried that you could be ex like excommunicated ex, is that the right word? (Brad: Yeah, basically) that makes me nervous.Lesley Logan 26:27  That's very religious, but yes, excommunicated.Lesley Logan 26:35  So some people say Pilates is a religion. But at any rate, like it shouldn't, if you have those fears, that can be your own family, by the way, like if there are things you can't say or do or be in your own family, because fear of like them, not speaking to you. That's a little bit culty.Brad Crowell 27:15  Yeah, I mean, we were just in England, and we were with one of our members who married someone from India. Oh, and she is from England. And she's not the same religion. (Lesley: Oh, she's Australian) oh sorry, she's Australian living in England, but she's not the same religion. And his family cut them out. (Lesley: Yeah) that's fucking cult. Lesley Logan 27:39  Yeah. So um, so you're probably wondering how can this be it till you see it, because you are a seeker. And I want to make sure you're armed with the right information so that as you're being until you see it, and as you're getting information out there, you don't end up accidentally in a group that is using you, using your amazingness. And we'll talk more about that in the next week's episode. Because that guest on narcissism is amazing. Anyways, I can keep going, but you should tell us what you loved.Brad Crowell 28:05  Yeah. So I thought this was interesting, in that she had a couple of examples of cult leaders that you would know that I don't remember their names. But she said, I know the mom. Yeah, I know, you know them all. If people are self-proclaiming that they're a guru. Be cautious. Be aware of this. Because they, you know, when someone puts themselves up on this high pedestal, and then tells you, you know, I am the authority, or I am the guru of the thing. Lesley Logan 28:42  I have all the answers here. I'm the one who knows, I'm the closest to right, you know, yeah.Brad Crowell 28:48  Yeah. You know, she said, actually, in fact, coaching can become this. Teachers can become this, you know, anybody that you put in a place of authority, it is, you know, it's she was talking about, like, you could be doing everything right. And then like, somehow it shifts and suddenly it like, becomes a cult and not like a group. Right? So the reality is that if they are out there telling you that they're the only authority that they're the only one or that they know what's right. And they can, they can, they're the only one that can help you like all major warning signs. Yeah, right that you've got somebody who, you know, is totally a narcissist, which we are going to talk about on our next episode, and they are effectively trying to manipulate you. Yeah. Whether they realize they're doing it or not, they're doing it. Right. Whether you realize they're doing it or not, hopefully you can identify that they're doing this. Lesley Logan 29:47  I think after we ended the podcast. So I'm gonna help like, you know, you do sales calls with people. And we're very clear with people like, this might not be the right group for you. And it's not because we don't want to help you. But if we're not the right person, like I've joked on the podcast before like, I'm not a taco not everyone's gonna like me. Sure, that's okay. Because like, there is someone out there who can lead you in all the different things that we do. If it's if I'm not the right one, or it's not the right time. And it's important that people know that. And I think like, I just think it's a little. I know that like, when you're lost, you just want answers. (Brad: Yeah.) But you have to also remember, like you have everything you need inside you. And really just surrounding yourself with people who want to support and guide versus be the hero (Brad: That's key. That's exactly right.) Someone who can guide you from this point to that point. And that doesn't mean once you get to that next point, that they're still your guide, you might pick up a different guide along the way.Brad Crowell 30:44  Yeah. And I think that's the that's like, the language that they're using, the way that they portray themselves the way that they perceive themselves, you might not be able to understand all that right away. But you're exactly right, like the person who wants to be there to support you and your growth, and be a guide along a path that they may have already taken. That's a win. But a person who is like, oh, I can show you how I'm the only person that has been where you are, I know how this works. You need to listen to me. That's a problem. You know, so she actually like what are the things I was talking about the 10 things and the 10 definitions, like how she defines a cult. And she said the second one, which I thought was really interesting, is a single sacred assumption. So all the people in the group have this single sacred assumption. And you can't you better not say the other way, because then everyone's gonna be like, What are you saying? Right, the single sacred assumption. So she was talking about NXIVM and Keith Raniere, and he told all of his NXIVM people, I am the smartest man alive. (Lesley: Oh, yeah.) And everyone fucking believed him. They just went along with it. So as a group, everyone was like, oh, yeah, Keith. Yeah, he's the smartest man alive. He's the smartest man alive. And it just was like, inherently, indoctrinating all these people with this weird decision that he's like, I'm the smartest man alive. So guess what, everything he says they're gonna fucking do. Because why would you defy the smartest man alive? (Lesley: He's so smart.) Right? So you know, that's like, you know, yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's just really fascinating to listen to this conversation. And then, you know, she talks about how, why she didn't become like a life coach, and instead decided to get degrees was because of her experience, being in cults, and seeing how it's very easy for, like life coaches, or coaches or teachers in general, to cross that boundary and become like cult leaders. Lesley Logan 32:55  I also think that like, it's, it's probably not intentional in the beginning.Brad Crowell 33:00  I don't think it starts off intentional, no. Lesley Logan 33:02  In the beginning, because like, I think like, first of all, especially if words of affirmation or your love language, like people are telling you, oh, my God, this helped me and we got this help me and you're like, Oh, my God, if you get this out to everybody, and then like, you keep going. And then at some point, you don't have anyone around you telling me telling you like, no, like, I'll have these ideas. And you guys are very quick to go. I love that idea. Not for now, or actually, like, let's we do that we do this. And not to say that I'm gonna become a cult leader, but I, but like, it's important to have people around you who will like challenge you on your ideas. It doesn't mean I won't fight for them. But it also keeps me from like, just continuing to go as if I'm the only person who knows what the fuck does the right thing to do. Yeah, and then bringing people along with me. And so I don't think people are born going to be a cult leader. But if they can't go that way, becauseBrad Crowell 33:56  Unless you watch the Umbrella Academy, but yes, no. (Lesley: Oh, really? I did not watch that.) You didn't. It's okay. The Umbrella Academy is a sci-fi show where this one of the characters inadvertently becomes a cult leader. And he's like, I love that I'm a cult leader. This is the most amazing thing. It's ridiculous. Lesley Logan 34:12  I watched how to become a cult leader. (Brad: Yeah.) Which is like just like a little satirical, because it's like, obviously it's it's really about like how these people became leaders. And I think it's, I really enjoyed it because in case anybody in your family is in one that can be extremely stressful and it can also take you off your path of like what you're doing on this planet. Because you're you can't snap them out of it like it like you telling them they're in a cult is just going to make them stay. So at any rate, like again, I really wanted to haveBrad Crowell 34:44  I think I think like liberating people from cults is a whole another conversation. Lesley Logan 34:50  Oh, that's a whole another (inaudible).Brad Crowell 34:54  If you're wondering if you're starting a cult right now, chances are unlikely that you are since you have that self-inflection.Lesley Logan 35:01  Go. Yeah, it's like the narcissist thing. Go and look at her top 10 things. Read her book which is so so good.Brad Crowell 35:08  Oh, which is called Uuncultured. Lesley Logan 35:09  Uncultured. Read her book because I also (Brad: Or listen to it.) I really loved how she shared she used the things that she saw in the people of her of the Children of God, when mistakes happen. And she saw it in the face of the men in the military when something happened. She's like, something's wrong here. Like she knew. (Brad: Yeah.) So like, I think that's really good information. And I again, I wanted to have this person on because I, as you listen to this, and you get inspired by people we've had on the podcast, or and you're working on taking the next step in your life. It's so easy for you to end up go going off your path of being it till you see it and being on someone else's path of a cult. So anyway.Brad Crowell 35:52  Yeah, well, let'sLesley Logan 35:57  Let's do the Be It Action. Brad Crowell 35:58  Yeah, hang out real quick. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 35:59  All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Daniella Mestyanek Young?Lesley Logan 36:14  What are your favorites? Brad Crowell 36:45  Yeah, so her bold advice was? Imagine yourself like so. Okay, just to clarify she is, I can't remember what she studied, when she went to school. When she went to Harvard. And anyway, I can't remember exactly what the degree she got. But it was something to do with like, sociology and and the study of people. And she said, imagine yourself when you're 80 and ask, how do you start to backwards plan your life so that you can get to that place? And you know, this is like old school advice. I you know, I've heard about this when I was when I was younger, but it's something that you kind of forget about. Yeah. And I like bringing it back and be and like looking at it and saying, well, what does 80 look like for me? Do you want to be surrounded with like, 8000 grandchildren? Do you want to be on a sailboat sailing around the world? Do you want to be retired in Asia? Do you want to, I don't know, whatever. Like my parents' version of this would innocent me guessing. But my dad has always loved the ocean. And my mom loves it, too. And so they've always wanted to be at a house near the water. And they've been planning for it almost their whole life. Like literally, it took them like 20, almost almost 20 years to get a house near the water. They got a house 20 years ago, that was two miles from the water. And 15 years later, or 16 years later, they finally were like, this isn't close enough. And they were the whole time they were there. They are shopping for the right house. Right? So they were thinking about these things decades ago. Right? And so what do they need to do in order to retire near the ocean? They need, clearly a place to live. So they worked backwards from this ultimate dream that they have this vision that they had of themselves when they were retired. And like it continues, right? Like my mom got this. This, she had this idea where they got this house that about three or four years ago now. And it was not in great shape. But my parents love projects like this.  Lesley Logan 38:58  They do. And your sister picked up another project, she got, it's in the blood.Brad Crowell 39:02  Oh, geez. Yeah. Well, my mom's mom is now in her middle 80s. And, you know, there may come a point where she needs like in home care. And so my mom thought, well, what if we took this house that we want to retire in? And we created, like a first floor plan, where we could have like a guest house on the same level as the primary plan before so that, you know, if you're 89, you're not going up and downstairs basically. Right. And so they've been already thinking ahead, planning, maybe we could support you know, grandma, and then someday, that might support them in that same house, right? Yeah. So they're just you know, thinking ahead, working backwards from this ultimate vision that you have for yourself and this takes inflection, time to sit down and actually think through it. Lesley Logan 39:54  Do you want us to go about this also bold advice? (Brad: Tell me.) The way fitness works is like, if you want to be able to pick up your grandkids at 80, you have to be training your body for that now.Brad Crowell 40:07  Yeah. Yeah, like the age of eight. So yeah, you might have already missed the boat. Lesley Logan 40:12  You did. No, I'm kidding. But like, but like, seriously, because Brad Crowell 40:17  I think I started around 32. Lesley Logan 40:18  Yeah. So if you had, like, if you picture yourself in your old age, like, if you do want to go up the stairs, if you want to, like have your beautiful house, like beautiful master bedroom suite with a balcony, whatever, then you have to be able to go up the stairs at 40 without even thinking about it. Yeah, maybe 50 flights of stairs. So that like as we age, like things like decline. But it's really incredible. Because I have seen people in this, you know, age is really just a number because like, I've seen people at 80 who can do things that like, you're like, whoa, that's phenomenal. Like there's a 63 old woman who was like doing this like, crazy deadlift that like Brad Crowell 40:58  200 pounds, 230 pounds? I saw it.Lesley Logan 41:00  There was another woman who was dead lifting as much as you and my dad was, and I was like, okay, I need to step it up if I want to be because I'm 40 she's 23. So like, 23 years older than me. I better get going if I wasn't able to do that at 63. Anyways, I love that advice. Okay, Brad Crowell 41:15  Yeah, well, so if you're stuck and trying to figure out what life could look like for you at 80 Daniella's advice was, go through all your senses. Okay. Focus on your senses. What are you seeing? What are you hearing? What are you smelling? Tasting? Feeling? What is what is that? What is happening around you? And then how can you plan your life backwards from there? She said, that we only have one life to live. We all know this. But she asked, What do you want out of it? And, you know, I don't know. I think it's funny. Like, we have these ambitions and these goals and these things, but like, do we actually sit down and say what do I want out of life? You know, so do that. Do that. Okay. All right. What about you? Lesley Logan 42:08  Well, after that, I don't know. I actually really loved this, she said, in relation to like bold advice or getting advice from others. She said, listen to all of it. And I was like, okay, like when she said that, I'm not gonna lie. Instead, I was like, should you go like, (Brad: Should you what?) listen to all the advice, listen to all the advice, getting advice, like, you know, getting advice from others, she said, listened to all of it. And I was like, Ooh, I disagree on this. But then she said, however, yeah, if it's negative advice, only listen to the people who've done what you're trying to do. Brad Crowell 42:46  Which is like, drop that fucking microphone that is humongous. Like it's such a, that was such a lightbulb moment for me when she said that I was like, Oh, my God. How come? I've never thought about that before?Lesley Logan 42:56  Right? Like, you know, we, we talk like, we have people who want to do on demand memberships. And since we do them, yeah, I say hello. I think it's a great idea. I can absolutely reach those needs. Here are some things you need to keep in mind. And it's not to deter, but it's to actually like, if I could do it all over again, knowing those things, what would I have done differently? And because no one's gonna get it right the first time. You can learn from that. Yeah. And so anyways, I thought that was really, really, really great and Brad Crowell 43:27  Well, I think so. So here's a good example.Lesley Logan 43:30  Well, she had a great example of her own life. (Brad: Oh, go ahead.) Is it okay if I share it? (Brad: Do it.) So she wanted to write a book. And she wanted to write it, like at the book Educated inspired her and she's like, oh, I want to write that. And there's all these naysayers (inaudible)Brad Crowell 43:44  It's an epic book about cults, PS. Educated.Lesley Logan 43:47  It's less about cults and more, it's, it's more about (inaudible)Brad Crowell 43:51  It's the story of a woman's experience where she grew up in what didn't know was a cult. Lesley Logan 43:58  It's a cult of her family. Yeah. Was a family cult. So you know, but, and she is about like, people who are living in rural areas who are not educated. You know? So anyway, she wanted to write that book. And people were like, you can't do that. There's, that's not going to work.Brad Crowell 44:15  Well, no, they said that there's no way you can be Educated, Educated was such a box office hit as far as books go, you know, don't even bother trying.Lesley Logan 44:26  Yeah. And but four years later, she actually did it. And, and it was along the lines of Educated. Yeah, and The Glass Castle. And what's really funny is Roy Vaden, who was on a couple weeks ago, he actually has a really big thing that like you when you're pitching an idea, you actually should pitch it in the vein of comparing to something like say, it's the educated book, but for cults, or like, it's this for about like the American Idol version of this and it's because people can't envision something that's brand new if it's ever happened, they need to hear it how it's like something else. So but If she listened to the people who'd written books, who were like what their advice was so that she could still do what she wanted to do and not like the people around her went, oh my god, you'll never be the number one best selling book on this topic. Right? You know, which was like, Well, how do they know but like, especially when it's your idea and it's baby and this goes back to Nikole Mitchell's episode, like you have to like, be mindful of who you're telling information to, you know? Lesley Logan 45:44  Daniella, you're phenomenal. Congratulations. You are just getting started really on this incredible journey and the impact you're going to make on this planet not as a cult leader, but as a guide on like, how to make sure that we show up as boldly as we can and have the effects we want to have on this planet but without getting involved with a cult. I'm Lesley Logan,Brad Crowell 46:06  I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 46:07  Thank you so much for listening. Make sure you listen to our interview recaps our FYF's and how are you going to use this in your life? Who are you going to send it to? We want to know so tag Daniella, tag the Be It Pod and oh by the way if you don't watch the pod on YouTube, this one is got multiple things going on because shout out to Daniella who can knit without even looking down. (Brad: Oh yeah.) and talk the whole time. Brad Crowell 46:34  Yeah. And look true supporters of the pod watch the YouTube channel. Okay? (Lesley: Just saying.) That is self-sacrifice. (Lesley: Brad!) Just watch the YouTube, though and if you don't watch the YouTube channel then you're out.Lesley Logan 46:45  There's a JK in all of that, you guys. Have a great day and Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 46:45  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 46:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How having a strong family goal can motivate you to work harder and achieve your goals. Overcoming fear of failure, perfectionism, and imposter syndrome.How Lesley and Brad redefined their goals in order to achieve their dream house. How to get specific on what you want and why you want it.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan: [00:00:00] It's Fuck Yeah friday.Brad Crowell: Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan: Get ready for some wins.Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right. Fuck Yeah Friday. Hi babes. How are you? How's it going? Okay, so this is actually my first recording back since we got back from Korea. And I haven't been able to share a win with you [00:01:00] that happened a couple weeks ago. So, I'm gonna share one of the most amazing wins of Brad and I's entire life with you in just a moment.But first, of course, as always, I share your wins. So if you have a win you want me to announce, I wanna share it, it's so fun. And it also is like the best way to start your weekend, don't you think? So, like Fuck Yeah Friday is actually something that a friend of mine taught us all when I was under my first mastermind years ago.And I was like, yeah, FYF. And I've been doing it ever since, like, I think it's like 2018. And it's a thing we do in AGENCY and it's a thing that we do in OPC and it's a thing we do in eLevate. It's a thing we do in my household and it's hopefully a thing that you're doing because of this podcast and I truly would love to know.So, you know, let me know by sending your wins in. So first win, let me pull this up. We had a couple wins from you guys I wanna share, because actually while I was gone, there's just like a ton of wins that came through. So I'm gonna, I'm going to catch up on a lot of 'em. So the first one is from, we call her UK Claire, Claire Sparrow.This is the [00:02:00] woman, oh gosh, I've known her for years now. She's an agency for a long time and we actually are gonna be at her place in Leads this summer. So I cannot wait to see her in real life. You've also heard her on the podcast, so this is actually someone you've heard before and she's one of our favorite episodes you've all listened to. So, UK Claire, here she is. I've been working. I've been looking forward to sharing this week's win. It's been a corker. It must be a British thing. When I joined AGENCY in August, 2019, we had a dream as a family to own our own cottage in Scotland. With all that I have learned, I was able to take it from a dream to a goal and build the steps in the business that not only fulfilled my mission to help more women with chronic pelvic floor dysfunction, but also earned enough income to make a deposit for our dream cottage.What I realized is that the big win is having a really strong family goal, made me push harder for my business goals, so I actually help way more women than I could have ever imagined. Today, my husband is eight hours from our leads home collecting the keys to our cottage in (...) [00:03:00] Northeast Scotland.Forgive my pronunciation. There are no words for how happy I am and how fueled I am to push further and set bigger goals. That said, I had a goal to write a book after a client said to me last year, you have a voice of hope. You are the voice of hope. She shared how it was my positivity and outlook that helped give the optimism that women can take charge of their pelvic health and that there is a non-surgical solution to prolapse.Confirmed when I did a kickass promotion with existing clients, refer a friend, and out of almost 400 women, one referred their mom. This was so sad because whilst women talk nonstop in my group, they don't talk out with outside the group. It reinforced the need to get a book out there. And to reach more women.So this week I completed the 45,000 word manuscript of my book ready for the Editor to start on Monday. I can't believe it. As a dyslexic, I lack so much confidence in my written work and my need to get the message out was a way stronger. So I have felt all the feels there have been a lot. [00:04:00] She's felt all the feels and there have been a lot. I was invited by Brent Anderson to speak on Pilates Hour podcast in July, which just so happens to be when the book launches, which is great timing. I taught a class for international brand Neom that has just gone live on their Facebook wellbeing group.And asked for help. My goal for the year, my team stepped up without hesitation this week to cover my classes and clients to give me space I need to work on my book and deal with a sudden family illness. My middle son got the cast off his arm and it is healed well. So that is like 17 wins. But I just wanna like highlight a couple things really quickly.She had a family goal she was so specific on, it made her work harder in her own business goals, which helps her help more women with their pelvic floor dysfunction, which helped her find women that told her you should write a book. And then she wrote a book and now she's helping even more women with her mission that she's doing on this earth , and because she has seen her goals, her vision, her mission become reality. She's now even more motivated. So you all, it is so important to have these [00:05:00] goals, and I'll talk about that more in my win. But let me go onto another win because if you're like, what is all that? I don't know, that doesn't relate to me, which I hope it does because my gosh, Claire, way to fucking go.You're phenomenal. And I love your family so much and I cannot wait to hang out with you in July when your book is launching so we can celebrate in real life. Bianca, who's from Canada, Also an AGENCY member. She had two clients buy packages this week, you guys, this was right after our coaching call where she was like, I think I might need to get a part-time job.And I was like, well, what are the things that we're doing? Here's the things you could be doing instead. So she booked two, two clients, bought packages this week. She had a client buy an intro session for next month. So I was like in advance. And now she's in touch with a physiotherapist for competitive athlete, LA athletic client.And it sounds like she wants to come with a long-term plan, incorporating Pilates into her routine. She's fucking put herself out there. Way to go, Bianca. It's not done. She's got more wins. She attended a local women's networking event last night and connect with a few women who wanted her business card.That's humongous. And she's going to Niagara Falls to celebrate her wedding [00:06:00] anniversary with her Hu husband. So love the business, love the personal wins, and also way to put yourself out there, Bianca. I know it's so hard, you guys, it's so hard for your business to grow. Like there's ebbs and flows, ebbs and flows, and sometimes it's like, why am I even doing this anymore?And it's like, get out there again and try again. And. Boom, look what happened. Alright, one more win for you all before mine. So this is Lisa McDonald's. Here it is. Hi Wins. I became C P T certified today and I'm celebrating. It's been a goal of mine since I finished my comprehensive certification with Balanced Body in 2020.It took me so long to sign up and take it. Why? Because of fear failure, perfectionism, and imposter syndrome. Once I took the leap and, and signed up for it, I assumed I would pass given all the awesome education, Balanced Body, comprehensive and eLevate program gave me, and of course, practice personal with some of you and with clients.Glad I took the leap and did it. I didn't get a hundred percent, which kind of upset me. Got to keep working on the perfectionism thing. Old habits are hard to break, so an effort to break the habit [00:07:00] and able to call myself recovering perfectionist. I'm sharing the information with you today, as well as writing so hard.Here's a pass, an exam. Accepting less than perfect. Two wins because perfect is boring, right? Yes, it is boring, Lisa. And also like, who needs a hundred percent on it? No one cares. No one cares. I hate to break this up, all of you, but like, yes, being an N C P T certified instructor is amazing because it does mean that you actually are truly a certified instructor.You took a third party exam, but no one actually cares what your score was. No one's gonna ever ask you. No one has ever asked me to see my certificates in general. But, so I understand as a recovering perfectionist as well, why you wanted to feel that way. I definitely did not get a hundred percent myself either.And so wouldn't you believe it doesn't really matter. But I love that you took the test. I love that you felt the feelings and I love that you are using this experience as a way to like recover from being perfect because it is boring and you're not boring, Lisa. So thank you to all of these members, eLevate an AGENCY for sharing [00:08:00] these wins with everybody so I could share them with our listeners. Alright now. Let me tell you my wins. So my win, it's a big one. And you, you may have already seen it because I did post this early because it happened in between me being able to record and going to Korea.So back in 2020, Brad and I well, we had this opportunity when our entire life, like many peoples was canceled, like our entire schedule was canceled. So a lot of people, you know, they had to work from home instead of going into the office, but like, our entire year was canceled. So all of the countries that we had workshops in, contracts in, all of the retreats after March, we did that one.My studio shut down, which my goals for the year was like, it was in... In March, I knew I was going to give half of my clientele away to my renters and just keep a few of my people. But the fact that I didn't actually get to say goodbye or didn't get to tell them that in person was a little rough.And at any rate, you know, I [00:09:00] know that you're listening to this and you had an interesting 2020 as well, so I know you get this. So in April of 2020, we like sat down and like redefined our goals for our future with this like, new, interesting way of doing things. And we wrote down what we wanted our dream home to be in Las Vegas.We knew how many rooms we wanted. We knew what kind of house we wanted it to be. We knew what each room was gonna do. We did all these things that we like truly like got down and dirty with how much it would cost, how much we could spend, how much we could afford, everything. Right? And we did this with one of my past guests, Kareen Walsh here on the podcast.And then in May, we actually had enough money to make that happen. At least make a deposit, a down payment on a house happen. But we actually didn't have, we didn't have like the history that banks wanna loan money to because we worked for ourselves. No bank wants to get a mortgage to people who work for themselves.And we were for ourselves in the state of California, which means we like [00:10:00] definitely wrote as much off as we could because we truly wanted to hire a team. And so that meant we had to spend a lot of money investing on our team and not in ourselves. So we were not ideal candidates for buying a house.So because of amazing people in this world, we had connected with someone who helps entrepreneurs get into houses. And he does that by doing contracts to deeds or like basically like a rent to own and, sure enough I wanted to move into our house on June 1st, 2020. Like, that was like my deadline. I was like, June 1st, we must move by June 1st.And so we did. We actually found a house nine days before June 1st. And saw it in real life. We drove out. We found it was like exactly like, it was amazing. And by June 1st we were moving in and that was amazing. But we had three years to get a mortgage. We had three years to qualify for a mortgage.And that can sound easy if one of your people in your relationship is a W two. And while we both have W two s, cause we're both employees of our own business, we still run our own business. [00:11:00] And so therefore, still not ideal candidates. And then also like, you know, we're elder millennials, we had student loans, we had debt, we like hello, trying to like survive, you know, nine 11 and recessions and all of that stuff.And so there's a lot that we had to overcome in a very short period of time. And we had an amazing team that we had helping us make every single decision there ever could be around how you spend your money. We had somebody telling us like, like we made sure we evaluated everything. We bought a van, we did this, we got a loan for the business, we did this.We did everything in a way to make sure that we could get a mortgage by the time we needed to. 18 months ago, we started the process of trying to get a mortgage and multiple mortgage brokers, like literally didn't return our calls. I'm talking multiple and we just kept going cause I was like, we can pay.We are paying for this cost for now. Like we can't do it. We are being it till we see it. I am not fucking letting this house go. You don't get to manifest something and then live in it and [00:12:00] then it gets taken away. Like I was like, we were not gonna let this happen. So at any rate, we did find some mortgage broker who believed he could help us and it took him 10 months.I took our CPA multiple filings and we were able to, by the grace of actually like the FHA, the government changing what they would do, like there was a whole process that goes into it. So whenever you see anybody like making the goal happen, I want you to know like they're not lucky. They work their fucking ass off.Okay. And I say that from a place of so much love. I say that from a place of like, just reminding you that you can have what you want. It is preparation and really, truly getting super clear on what you want and why you want it, and not giving up until it happened. So I want you to go back to uk Claire's, even her win.Like that dream that she had, that wasn't luck that got her there. It was hard work of building a team, of [00:13:00] getting people to hear her message and staying on mission. It was, the truth is, is that we didn't just start working 18 months on this. We started working from June 1st, 2020, on getting this mortgage and it took us 18 months to get it.And here, oh my gosh. Here's, okay, so here's the actual win. So we had Meridith's wedding to go to and we came home for 26 hours. We had to sign the mortgage on that day, on May 15th, we had to sign it because we're gonna be gone for what was supposed to be only 11 days, ended up being almost 13 days, and then there was a holiday weekend.So like it would just, the contract would've expired by the time if we had waited any longer. And we, I mean, got ourselves by the last minute or the last client on the last possible day, we could sign this mortgage, sign this mortgage and the house that you have been seeing pictures of, the house that we live in, the house we talk about all the time, the cactuses that Brad talks about.This house is our house. We're not renting this house. There's no deadline anymore. Like we got this house and I'm so [00:14:00] proud of Brad and I, but I'm also so grateful for the massive, amazing team and the effort we put in. I share this one with you because if you can get super specific on what you want and why you want it, I promise you, there's no stopping you.I promise you, there's no stopping you. I promise you won't let anything get in the way. You will move heaven and earth to make that happen. And I share this one with you because I do hope that you do that. I want you to experience moving heaven and earth to have the win that you wanna have to have, the thing that you wanna have to have, the life that you wanna have, cuz you deserve it and you're amazing.Thank you so much for letting me share this FYF with you today. It's a little bit longer one, I apologize, but I needed to share it with you because, because that's like this entire house was being it till we see it, the whole last three years was literally being it till we see it to live in this house.So being until you see it works, thank you so much and until next time, you need to Be It Till You See It. Have a good day. That's all I [00:15:00] got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram.I would love to know more about you. 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Join Lesley as she interviews renowned photographer James Patrick on the advantages of specializing in any field. Discover the importance of embracing imperfections and how failures and feedbacks can lead to professional success in this informative podcast episode.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How James overcame imposter syndromeCareer benefits of leaning into your unique differentiatorBreaking down goals into smaller, manageable tasksThe importance of progress over perfectTaking action and audience feedbackEpisode References/Links:Follow James Patrick on IGJames Patrick's Legacy PlannerChef Robert Irvine's BookGuest Bio:James Patrick is an award winning photographer, best selling author, business coach and media specialist based in Phoenix, AZ. He's the founder of Get Published LIVE, an annual conference for entrepreneurs to earn media as well as the publisher of ICON REFINED, a media network celebrating the modern entrepreneur which includes a digital platform, multiple print publications and a top charting podcast. James' mission is to create both art and opportunities for those he connects with.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipWaitlist for the flashcards deckUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:James Patrick: [00:00:00] So when we start to break things into these manageable pieces, we actually start to get things done. And the more we start to get these little pieces done, the more confidence we are building in ourselves that, yeah, I can actually do this thing, that this, this idea, this can come into fruition. Like as I start to tick off these little boxes, I can start to move forward.And it, it then becomes this self-propelling momentum in how we get things done.Lesley Logan: Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear.Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, [00:01:00] intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hey, loves, how are you? Okay. Today's guest is actually someone I really just enjoy having conversations with. Uh, I. I met him through Kareen Walsh, who you all remember from one of our earlier episodes, and she is just phenomenal. If you haven't listened to her, we'll put that link in the show notes because she's a badass and she loves to help you be a badass.Um, but she introduced me to James through an email and I was, and he asked me if I wanted do something and I said yes. And then, and then because I said yes, I did something. And like he's like, Hey, you wanna be on my show? And I was like, yes. And then we had them in the best conversations I've ever had in life.And so of course I was like, well, you know, if you ever wanna be on my show, I would love to have you cuz like we have way too much fun talking together. And y'all, he, uh, only is not going to disappoint you in his amazing, [00:02:00] inspiring, wonderful, honest answers about life and work and how you can Be It Till You See It, but we get into a goal setting, and it's one of my favorite goal setting conversations I've ever had. Um, if you are an agency, uh, you get to meet him in our group because he's speaking to our group. And if you're not an agency and you're like, wait, what's that? Well, that's where we coach people on how to do their business.Um, but, and anyway, this episode, I'm really, I really can't wait for you to listen to. I hope you can understand what he is doing; and, and you are going to want to go into the show notes. And if you don't know how to find them, you're gonna do this little swipey up thing. And you're gonna find the links in the show notes because he has an incredible physical thing that you can use to make your goals of reality.And I know if you are listening to this show, you're like me, you'll like a physical journal. I can't read my own handwriting, but I still love one and I still buy them. So at any rate, here's James Patrick. Oh, and stick around to the very end because we got some outtakes that's been happening. There's [00:03:00] always outtakes. Um, and the team does collect them for bloopers on the YouTube, but uh, we're adding them into the end of the pod because you know what you need to know that we are not perfect. You're not perfect, and we're enjoying the process and we are enjoying that.So have a good laugh on our behalf. Love you.Lesley Logan: All right, Be It babe. I'm super stoked for our guest today, James Patrick is one of the most favorite people I've actually ever been interviewed by. One of the most fun conversations I've ever had on his podcast. And he said this amazing thing that he's gonna share with all of us. And I was like, well that's absolutely necessary for our Be It pod listeners.Um, cuz we're all about goals here, all about taking action and also like actually trying to accomplish them at the same time. So James, will you tell everyone who you are and what you rock James Patrick: at these days? Well, thank you so much for having me on. I always get a little like overwhelmed with imposter syndrome whenever I have to describe myself.Um, and I think that goes back to when I was trying to build my career as a photographer, which spoiler alert, I'm a photographer [00:04:00] and I was working in marketing at the time trying to build this side hustle as, as a photographer. And whenever I'd be at networking events or, or socials or things like that, someone would say, well, what do you do for a living?And I would chicken out. And I would not say I'm working on being a photographer. I'd always go with the safe route. Say, well, I'm working in marketing. And it wasn't until I trusted someone enough not to judge me that I was comfortable saying, oh, by the way, I'm also trying to become a photographer. And at some point, uh, I, I think it was around 2006, 2007, uh, I was at a networking event.Same question was asked, and I said, I'm a photographer, and that right there was a light bulb moment for me that made me realize, oh, I need to quit my marketing job because I'm actually willing to own this posture of being a photographer. So I've been shooting now for 20 years. I, I've shot close to 700 magazine covers.Um, but I also tie in a lot of my background in marketing in press production, and helping my [00:05:00] clients leverage the power of earned media to amplify their brands, to generate new leads for their business, and then how they can, how they can build an entire ecosystem from there. Lesley Logan: Oh my goodness. I love how in your intro you somehow managed to make sure we heard how you were being it till you saw it.Like, like you, you struggled to say that you're a photographer, but when you said it, it was like, oh, well now I gotta let go of this thing. Mm-hmm. Like, and I actually can relate to that in a lot of ways, so I, and I'm sure some of our listeners can too, it, I remember when I became a pilates instructor, it felt really weird to say that because I had come from, Being this top manager in a, a very famous boutique, uh, from like that people around the world knew.And then I was gonna say, oh, I'm a Pilates instructor. And it felt really weird to say it, but then it's really interesting. And I don't know if you got the same thing once I said it just like, like there's this moment like, oh, I am this person. But people find it very intriguing when you get to be something that's like, not the typical route that someone could go, they're almost a little jealous.They're [00:06:00] like, wow, you, you, you're, you do that for a living. It's like, yeah, James Patrick: I do. Yeah, no one asked any follow up questions when I said I worked in marketing. Like, okay, that's great. Um, but when I said, oh, I'm a photographer, well, that peaks curiosity. You're absolutely right. I never thought about that, uh, until you mentioned it.Lesley Logan: Yeah, it takes a, a good kind of curiosity. I'm sure like lawyers and doctors always get those follow up questions, but the, being a retail manager, being in marketing, it's like, oh, okay. Like it doesn't, okay. James Patrick: Yeah. Okay. As if they look over your shoulder to see who else they can talk to in the Yeah. Lesley Logan: Yeah.Especially in LA uh, it's just why I had to like learn how to get seen in, in the world. So you, you said it like over 700 covers and you're doing all these things to help people build their brands. How did that come to be? Like, was that something that you kind of fell into just one step at a time?Was it something that you had a dream about doing? How did, how did this all kind of come together James Patrick: in regards to photography or shooting covers? Lesley Logan: [00:07:00] Uh, let's shooting covers. James Patrick: Um, it wasn't a plan until at some point I counted it and realized that it was pretty substantial. My, my first job as a photographer was working in media.Uh, I was working at a newspaper and prior to that I was a journalist. Um, and I don't know whether the newspaper I was working at, if the publisher hated my writing or loved my photography, but he, he said, I can't be a writer anymore. I needed to be a photographer. So he put me in the photo pool as opposed to the writer's pool and I started shooting, uh, for a few issues, and then there was an opening to be the photo editor of the, of that newspaper, which I, I landed. Now to be clear, photo air doesn't mean I edited photos. You don't really edit photos for newspapers. What it meant was I managed the photo department. I had to quickly learn what photos worked, what photos did not work, and where to place images within the print publication, uh, that led to me getting a job [00:08:00] as a photo editor at a startup magazine. Same thing. I have to manage a team of photographers. I have to assign out the, the, the projects and then I have to cull through all these images to determine which of these images are commercially viable that are gonna help sell this magazine.So when I launched out my freelance photography business, I stuck with what I knew, which was shooting for media production and it just made sense that I was shooting lots of magazine covers cuz I knew what images to take to make a magazine cover that moved units. And at some point, uh, someone asked me, well, how many of these have you done?It seems like a lot. I think at that point it was like 500 or something like that. I was like, oh, I should actually keep track of this at this point. Lesley Logan: Yeah, that's so, um, that's, I love that because I think sometimes people can forget the strengths that they learned along the way. Mm-hmm. And like having those opportunities just allow you to hone in your skills of photographer when you're taking pictures. It was like, well, this is something that's gonna actually sell the thing that it's on top of. Like, it really does matter. [00:09:00] I have, I, I have to do that sort of for myself with newsletters. I'm like, that picture, why would you choose a picture?Put that picture away and it's like, I clearly need a photo editor and that's fun cause I don't wanna be that person. But those, it matters for whether something, uh, fill, take, goes off the shelf or sells a book or sells a product versus it doesn't, you know, it doesn't really matter if the product's amazing, if no one will look at the picture James Patrick: that's on it.I think so often we're afraid to lean into these unique differentiators, uh, because it's like, well, I don't want to turn off some clients if I, if I only focus here then other people are not gonna be too interested. And my opinion is no. It's when I focus here on on, for example, media production for myself, it was really hard to compete with me on that when I said I don't just take photos.Anyone can take a great photo. I can make an image that I know is gonna work. I know is going to move more units. I know it's gonna sell more ads. I know whatever it is, I [00:10:00] know this is going to work. So while everyone else is taking photos, I'm gonna make an image that works now if the goal was not to sell magazines.If the goal was not to move magazine units, if the goal was not to get published, there's no reason to look at my work. There's no reason to hire me there. There are other photographers that that can do better in other areas, like for example, um, Events. I am atrocious at shooting events. I, I would be the worst person to hire for it.It, it causes me physical pain and anxiety to even think about shooting events. Um, food and beverage, I absolutely love shooting food and beverage. I would not consider myself even remotely, uh, commercially competent to shoot food and beverage. Um, whereas other people would absolutely decimate me should they bid against me on a food and beverage, uh, uh, campaign.So I, I've really tried to stay in what I believe I excel at and use that as my unique differentiator because there people cannot [00:11:00] compete with me. Lesley Logan: Yeah. When, well, and I, you know, what I love is like, the more you actually, as you say, lean into your unique differentiators, the better it is for you because you become the best at what you it is that you do.Mm-hmm. But so many people are, are so afraid. What a, what? I mean, you've probably seen it along the way with the people that you coach and the people that you work with. What is, what do you see as the fear that they're like, if I, if I put myself in this position, I like am alienating all of this. So like, I'm just gonna be for everybody, which we already know is not gonna work.But why? Why is that fear so great that it's keeping 'em in the place of thinking that it's going to work when it doesn't and we already know this? James Patrick: The assumption is, is that they're going to lose work and they're gonna lose opportunities that that opportunities within their specialty are too finite for them to build something substantial out of.And when I launched, my photo business was right around the recession in 2008, and I had the problem where I was quite, um, Ubiquitous in trying to do everything. You know, I could shoot [00:12:00] fashion, I can shoot editorial and I'll shoot, um, you know, events or whatever, whatever would pay, I would say yes to. But when budgets are very tight, which they were, uh, and by the way, budgets are always tight.There's no such thing as, as, uh, uh, like a big budget. I've never had a client, like, I always get the email. It's like, well, our budgets are really tight right now. I'm like, I'm just waiting for the email to say, Whatever you want. The, you know, throw, throw, throw the biggest, uh, number you can at us. But, um, budgets were tight.And so if, if you have a very, a very limited amount of money, and let's say you're shooting a fashion campaign, are you gonna shoot the person who is competent enough to shoot the fashion campaign or for the same budget are you gonna hire the person who specializes in fashion? Yeah. You don't have money to redo this.You can't mess this up. Who are you gonna hire? You're gonna hire the specialist, the person who you trust to do this project right the first time. Then it became, well, I just need to be a trusted resource for that. So when it comes to [00:13:00] being trusted for this style or this approach, or this, this vision, yeah, I'm gonna be hired for that.Now does that mean I lose out on some campaigns? Of course it does. Yeah, that's fine. But it doesn't mean I lose out on everything. Uh, last week I was shooting, uh, a product, uh, right across from me and my office. I, food and beverage. Actually, I have to shoot product labels for a food and beverage company.Now, why did I get that? Because I, I built a relationship with that person, not because I, I, I might be the best photographer to, to, to shoot this, uh, but because I have a great relationship with that client and that's why they hired me. So this idea that we're gonna lose out on everything is just not accurate, and it's never proven to be the case.But not specializing in something is almost a guaranteed way to lose out on opportunities that you are hardwired to, to, to be getting. Hmm. Lesley Logan: Oh, everyone. Rewind that. Listen that again. I love that so much because it's true. Like there are some things that you'll get by based on relationship that happened in my business as well.Mm-hmm. [00:14:00] And, but also, like even for me, I, I am a small business. We're trying to be a big business, but we still have budgets for things. I love my photographer that I work with, she's phenomenal. I, she does events really, really well. That's how I met her. But she's a personal branding, uh, photographer, but she does not do the photos.Even with the relationship I have with her for my flashcards, my exercise photos are a specialist. He specializes in shooting movement. He specialize in shooting, shooting athletes. So I can actually keep moving while he takes pictures. I don't have to hold every exercise as it's going. And it's just because you, you gotta, you have to make sure that you are hiring the best for, for something when, especially when budgets are right, but when you have a purpose for that product.And so the more we lean in, you're, you're, I. I love the way you actually said, it's like you're guaranteeing that you're gonna get the jobs that you're the best for instead of losing out on on the ones that you could have been the best for. Um, so you've been a photographer it sounds like, for, oh my gosh, you're almost at 20 [00:15:00] years in this business of solo doing photographer.Obviously your job has, your role has evolved and you're doing these other things. What are you most excited about doing right now? James Patrick: I, I don't know if I could distill that. It's kind of like asking what breath I'm excited to take next. Um, every ...(Lesley: Choose your favorite child.) Yeah. Every day I, I go to work. It's, it's different.Like today I get to spend time with you recording this podcast. And the only other thing on my agenda today is I get to post process, uh, a handful of, of projects I was working on. So photo editing, um, I'm excited about that. You know, I, I get, I get my cup of coffee. I, I, I get to put on some music in the background and I just get to kind of zone out in this meditative state while I just work on this.And then tomorrow I, I'm doing copywriting all day and, and I'll have fun doing that. And Monday I'm filming content, uh, where I have to be on camera cuz we're going into a launch. I have to film a bunch of, uh, sales videos and marketing videos and I'm gonna have a, a crap ton of [00:16:00] fun doing that too. I would rather just not do work that I don't really feel lights me up.Um, I choose to work, I choose the work I do. I choose to work very hard, and I also choose when I'm not working. Mm-hmm. Um, um, so, You know, that's not to say, and I don't want to sound like I'm on a soapbox where, you know, I just never, I never have a bad day and I don't, I don't find things that, that frustrate me and, and stress me out and cause me just massive amounts of, of paralysis and anxiety.Um, but that's not the goal. The goal is to, to love what I do. Um, I would say, One of the things I'm, that's been lighting me up a lot recently is I started, I started, uh, taking my podcast and incorporating a lot more video into it. Uh, and I started doing it at the start of the year, and that has been just such a joy to do every week to, to be able to go live, uh, and have people tune into my show, live and be a part, uh, an active participant in my show live.Um ...(Lesley: that's so cool.) [00:17:00] It's, I just, I had wanted to do it for years and I got tired of trying to make it perfect and I just did it and it's been great and I've had so much fun with it. So, and I think maybe that's the reason that comes to mind right now is just cuz it's the most new thing that I've been doing.So, Lesley Logan: yeah. So I, I agree. Like I, um, There are, there are days where like, even in my job, it's like, ugh, I just don't really wanna work today. Mm-hmm. But when I actually start working on the things I'm like, I really do, like, I do actually like writing my own newsletters. I, I love copyright, I love writing a sales email.I'm not the best person at it, but I like, have fun the way I write it, that it does really well. So I enjoy all the different parts that I do. However I can remember back to when I was like in 2015 trying to make the thing I'm doing now, the thing I was doing by myself, like making all the money and doing the job that like was the j o b just over budget, paid the bills, had the security of the healthcare and all that stuff, and trying to bridge the gap of like how taking that eventual leap while living in [00:18:00] LA and paying exorbitant rent and some parking tickets, um, because you just never got out to your meter in time. Um, so, you know, for me, making those goals, that was easier to break 'em down and, and, and, and finally get to this place where I, I get to do what I chose to do and I'm really excited about it. For those listening though, what are, what are like your, like what is you, how did you break your goals down?How did you make sure that like, that you could have this job or like you get to do everything you James Patrick: like to? So I was running into this problem a number of years ago where I would set goals every year because I knew. So every book I read said it was important to set goals. So I'd set goals for myself and then I'd forget about 'em or, or I'd, you know, file my goals into a, a folder that would go into a final en cabinet that I wouldn't look at until the next year.I'm like, oh, did I actually do that? No, I guess, I guess, guess not. Um, and even goals that I did [00:19:00] remember wanting to do, I never really conceptualized how I was going to do it or what that process would look like. So by the time I would come up to when I thought this would be done by the more insurmountable that goal became and, and the more stressful that goal became, it was just easier just not to do it.So what I decided to do was to create a living document that I looked at regular. That I would catalog my goals at, and I would check in with on a routine basis, because at least now I'm not leaving my goals, collecting dust in a drawer for, you know, 11 months. I'm looking at it monthly. Or, or every other month, or even weekly, you know, and I'm trying to see, okay, what do I need to do?So it, this was an Excel spreadsheet I started like a decade ago, a little over a decade ago. And then every year I would refine it a little bit and add a little more context to it and break the goals down a little bit more. So [00:20:00] that, let's, let's take, like I've been hosting events for 10 years. Let's take, I wanna host an event this year.Well, that is a really big idea. Yeah, and the closer you get to, well, I wanna host an event by July, and now all of a sudden it's May 31st, and you're like, I got a month to get this thing off the ground, and I've never hosted an event before. I don't even know what to do, so I'm just gonna cancel this, this, this goal is just, and that's, that's unfortunate because that could have been an amazing event and you are now robbing all those people who could have attended that event the absolutely phenomenal experience of being a part of seeing your idea come into reality. So I started to break these goals down into, well, what needs to happen this quarter? All right, what needs to happen this month? What needs to happen this week, or what needs to happen this day? And the more granular I made the goals, two things happen.Number one, it drastically reduced stress because now I'm not thinking about building an event. I'm thinking about [00:21:00] this month alone. I just gotta find a hotel to host the event. That's all I gotta do this month. And then next month, then I can figure out food and beverage, and then the month after that, then I can figure out speakers and sponsors.So I'm now segmenting my attention. I don't have to worry about speakers and sponsors right now. I just gotta find a great hotel and I can put my energy into that in this moment, and all of a sudden it allowed me to refine my focus and everything. And not just in business, but in, in, in my personal goals. Like, you know, I wanted to take two personal trips.Uh, you know, in, in a year, well, taking a personal trip you can break down as well. Well, what does that mean? Well, I need to research places to go. I need to book airfare and hotels. I need to book, uh, experiences on these trips, and I can now put this into different months or different weeks as I lead up to this trip.So that, oh, I said I was gonna go on vacation in August. I'm [00:22:00] now in July. I don't know where to go. You know what? I'll just cancel it. Now. I've robbed myself of a great vacation. So when we start to break things into these manageable pieces, we actually start to get things done, and the more we start to get these little pieces done.The more confidence we are building in ourselves that, yeah, I can actually do this thing. That this, this idea, this can come into fruition. Like as I start to tick off these little boxes, I can start to move forward and it, it then becomes this self-propelling momentum in how we get things done. I am Lesley Logan: so glad you brought up the confidence part of it.That is why so many people listen to this podcast. And then why I even created this podcast is most people are like, Lesley, you're so competent in everything you do. And I'm like, well, I actually have a lot of imposter syndrome. Most of the things I do, cuz most things I'm doing I've never done before. So I'm flying by the seat of my pants.But I am someone who loves to work backwards. I learned that many years ago and [00:23:00] I, and it is the most helpful way to take on a big project and also, You said confidence, but also it kind of guarantees you're gonna do the thing you're scared to do because you've already done all the work, you already booked the hotel, you've already reached out to the sponsors.You almost get yourself into a position where you can't back out. Cause it's harder to back out than it is to do the scary thing. And so, um, but when you said you're robbing people or you're robbing yourself of an experience, that to me is one of the most important things people can take away from this right now as you're listening, every time you are too scared to share who you are and what you do and how you rock at it, or every time you skip out on something that is gonna change people's lives or your own.You're, you're preventing the, everybody from having this experience, they could change their life, could absolutely, that vacation that you were gonna take could have been the thing that allowed you to end up meeting the person that was your best friend or meeting the meet, getting a different job or, or just maybe moving, like, I almost skipped out on not going to Cambodia cuz my husband wanted to go there [00:24:00] for our honeymoon. And I was like, really? That's where you wanna go on our honeymoon? Can we add an island in there? Can we just, but as soon as we landed I was like, oh my God, this is my favorite place in the whole world. Right? And if we, and we did the same thing planned the honeymoon cuz I had nine flights in 14 days cuz my husband's an ex, ex musician and he's like, oh, we'll just go on tour.You can see people see three countries in a week. No problem. And I was like, really? That's how you do this? But it's those little steps each time so that it builds up and becomes the goal that you had in the first place. I, um, you've said you've been doing this for 10 years. Have you been able to help other people see how to break these things down?What about the people who are like, they don't know the steps in between, you know, like that, breaking it down to small pieces, they're not sure the steps in between or the order of those. James Patrick: That's such an important question because this approach does not guarantee success and that, that I really want to, to be clear on, [00:25:00] but the goal is not success.The goal is progress. So when I first host an event, I had no idea host how to host an event. So of course I got things wrong. That didn't matter the event still happened. And every year, you know, we're going into our ninth year of this, of this conference, and every year it has improved. Um, even, even going into this year nine, there were things in year eight that we didn't do right. Right. Quote unquote. I, yeah. We didn't do as well as we could have. Every year we're learning. Uh, so, so this, this idea that I need to perfect something before, before I begin. Mm. No, that, that's another great way to always keep something as an idea. Uh, it, it is about testing. You won't know what works until you try something.Um, and, and I love how you said that. Even, even where we're at now. We're still not confident that things are gonna [00:26:00] work out. I, as long as I've been doing this, I, I, I still am terrified that something is going to go awry or something's not going to work, even if I've done it a hundred times before. I was launching a new brand couple years ago and I was feeling a little nervous, a lot nervous about it, and I, because of that, I was getting a little testy at home.My wife always says, why are you, what are you worried about? I'm. Well, I'm putting a lot of time and energy into this. I'm putting money into this and what if this doesn't work? And she just looked at me and she's like, well, then you'll do something else. Oh, okay. I guess you're right. And you know, spoiler, whatever I was launching did not work.I lost money on it. And, and, hey. Check my pulse. Yep. Still here and still doing okay. Um, so the goal is not perfection. The goal is progress. As we start to work incrementally towards this, there's no way for you to know how to do everything or how to perfectly reverse engineer, but that's not an excuse not to try.Yeah. [00:27:00] Um, Lesley Logan: Yeah, that's just, I Thank you. That's a really good point. Um, you know, we work with a lot of athletes, uh, not athletes, excuse me, um, uh, fitness instructors on their goals and their business, and they'll, I can, I can see when they've missed. They, first of all, too many times I see people, but too many goals on that are unachievable for one person in one month.So I'm just like, too many goals and it's like, I love all these, but we do, you have 40 hours a week to work on these, like these, you know? So giving yourself achievable goals is really great. But also when you set yourself up like that and you don't do them, or you don't get 'em all the way because a roadblock came up, I see people shut down.Oh, I missed the goal. I failed. And it's like, actually, how could you have known that your website would need all this copy? If you've never built a website before, how could you have known if you, uh, To put a scheduling tool together was gonna take you three weeks instead of two weeks. Like, you can't know these things.[00:28:00] So we put dates on things because it helps us get them done. Right. Prioritizes, yes, it puts in a priority, but getting it done, uh, perfectly is not the goal. It's the progress. It's like moving the ball forward, not kicking it down the road, but like actually moving it down, moving it forward with that, with that information that you learned.And so sometimes you have to reset the date. James Patrick: So, um, couple things I wanted to say on this because you brought up a few important points. One thing about setting goals, I would, I would encourage people to set goals that they themselves have control over and that are not required to have another party or another, uh, company be the decision maker.So, for example, it would be frustrating if I were to set a goal on. Oh, I don't know, uh, number of, uh, new stand covers I want to shoot in a year. Uh, cuz I don't actually control that. Mm-hmm. There's another company that chooses whether or not [00:29:00] my work gets put on that cover. So let's say I say, oh, I want five new stand covers this year and I only get three.I might feel bad about myself, but that didn't mean I didn't work my ass off to get these covers, so why should I feel bad about that? Instead, I could shift that to, I want to send off 10 pitches a month. I want to, uh, send off a hundred podcast submissions per quarter. I want to record 20 YouTube videos, uh, per year.Now these are things I control and I'm working towards goals like shooting new STEM magazine covers, but I'm not setting my, how I view success or fulfillment upon conditions that I don't have control over. And that's something that's helped me just reduce some of the, just stress I might feel if I'm not hitting something that I don't control.Um, like I wanna launch a website, okay? I can set a loose date of when I wanna launch a website, but if I'm not designing the website and someone else [00:30:00] is designing the website, I can only control my aspects of it, how fast I write the copy, how fast I turn around the edits, how fast I upload all the materials, how fast I purchase the domain.Those are the things I can control. I can't control when a designer says they're gonna get their work done. So that, that I think is important. And the other thing is, um, we have this, this way of the closer we get to finishing something, the more we find wrong with it. Um, when I worked in marketing, uh, I, I was doing professional service, uh, business development.So I, I pursued public sector work for, uh, architecture and engineering and in pursuing these projects, On the regular, were six to eight figures. Um, when did the project manager come into the room to assess their opinions on the pursuit? Did they come in at the beginning or did they come in at the end?They came in at the end like, well, I don't know if I like the team this way, or, I don't know if we're, we're highlighting the right past projects, or, you know what, maybe we need to bring into this [00:31:00] other subcontractor. And my response is, holy shit, are you way too late on this? Because we have to turn this submittal in tomorrow by five o'clock.Or we don't get this project. Now, if you would've come in at the beginning of this process, then all that stuff could have been factored in. This is why we're trying to reverse the engineer at the beginning. So guess what? All this stuff that you're gonna do is gonna do one to two things. One, it's either not gonna happen and we're gonna submit as is, and maybe we get it, maybe we don't.And number two, we're gonna try to squeeze all this in and we're gonna miss the deadline, and then we're not gonna get it. Okay, so coming up with these objections or these, these alternatives or these scenarios, worst case scenarios at the beginning can help create some, some ideas on how to work through if these things ever do surface or if these things ever do arise.It's like we have an event happening at my studio next week, and it would be [00:32:00] very counterproductive if my business partner came in and says, oh, we need to change the, the order of the speakers and we need to shift around, uh, you know, how we're doing registration, or, you know what, all these people who bought tickets, we need to adjust what, whatever this scenario is, that would be a bad time to do it.Okay. But if they were to do it at the beginning, Now we can work this through. It's, it's, it's just a way of, once again, allowing perfectionism to delay actually getting something out the door. Lesley Logan: Yeah. I, first of all, both points: love. And the second point, I really, um, can, from my own experience, it is really funny how the closer we get to like something seeing the light of day, we like start to nitpick noodle or like all of a sudden have this reason why, ugh, this actually shouldn't be like this.I remember when prior to this podcast launching, I had recorded, you know, you have to have like 11, whatever, who knows what it is today, but back then I could launch with 11 episodes, so. Mm-hmm. And I thought that was a lot. And, um, but I remember like doing them, um, I [00:33:00] didn't, I'd never interviewed people like for a podcast before.Really. I'd been on the other side. So I'm doing the best I can. And right before it was supposed to launch, I listened back to some of them and I was like, this microphone we have is terrible. Mm. Now wouldn't it have been a good idea, prior to actually interviewing all those people, to check to see if I like the sound of the microphone?I didn't, and I had sat there for like a week thinking about what am I gonna do cuz like, I don't wanna re-interview all these people, but I'm not really sure I love the sound and as I was about to just stop myself and like stop myself from moving the ball forward, from having the goal of launch of the podcast on time.Thankfully. Well, someone I look up to in this world, I'm sure you've actually shot her a cover several times. I listened to a podcast, she launched some friends, and their audio was so crappy. I thought, if these women can put that out, I'm gonna put mine out and I'm just go buy new microphone. So episodes 14 and on have a different sound and we're just gonna go with it.But I really did that perfectionist. [00:34:00] That's why I said I'm a recovering one. That perfectionist almost got me to stop and now if looking back I can see what we made a mistake on and now for other things I can, I love this idea of like, let's think about the things that we might wanna change. We might, that could go wrong at the beginning.So we actually put the lead time in to deal with that now we have the time before we don't have the time. Genius little addition in there. James Patrick: How many people, um, complained about your audio quality? ...(Lesley: No one has.) Okay. Just checking. Uh, people will overlook a lot or they won't notice things or they don't care as long as the content's good.Uh, you know, it's, people care about outcomes and results, uh, when they're investing even. Time and energy. If, if the content's good, if they are getting the outcome that they wanted out of it, they're gonna, they're gonna ignore so much. You, you're Lesley Logan: 100% correct there. Because even when, so now it's probably eight, nine years ago when I started on YouTube.This is like before, you know, before I could, before [00:35:00] getting access to like, you didn't have AirPods or wasn't there. And so like getting a a lapel mic was pretty difficult. And my husband's like, he's like, you have to be on YouTube and I was like, insert all the imposter syndrome of why I should be on YouTube over anyone else.But anyways, we did it and it was, you know, pre tripod. We hadn't even, like, we were like taking messy action, should we do this? And so he is like trying to hold the camera really still while I'm like filming an exercise. And of course it's LA So then an ambulance goes by. Mm-hmm. And you'd be like, stop, start again.Those videos though are still getting views today. No one's complained about the audio. No one's complained that there's not a tripod. We got better along the way. But when the content is, what is answering questions people have, they will, they are more forgiving. Um, you know, and then, and now today there's like so much access for so many affordable prices to noodle and, and, and do things better.So we can, but, um, you know what a great reminder that like, if that, it's okay if the, if what you're doing is actually great quality, in other [00:36:00] ways people will overlook some things. So give, give yourself some space James Patrick: and grace. I always get nervous when someone asks a question. Um, what's the best microphone to get?Um, what is the best recording platform to use? What's the best camera to purchase? And I'm just, I don't care. I, I don't know. Um, whatever you use, I, it doesn't matter. I, I, um, speaking about podcasts, you know, early on when I started podcasting, there weren't as you said, is accessible of gear or technology. I mean, we didn't have Zoom.We had to drive to people. So I would, from Arizona, I'd drive to LA to go interview people because I, I desperately wanted them on my show and I was using these old crappy microphones. I actually just found it. It might be behind me. Yeah, it is. Um, I found it in a, in a, in a case in my studio, uh, that's like 15 year old microphone.Um, It's a USB microphone, and I didn't know that [00:37:00] you couldn't plug more than one SB microphone into a laptop simultaneously because they record at different speeds. And thus you will have this terrible audio quality from one of your guests. And here I am in Los Angeles interviewing this, this big, you know, fitness celebrity, and you can't hear her through the microphone.So we have to pull her audio from my microphone, which is across this table. And by the way, we're recording in this giant auditorium. So there's this massive echo all around because we didn't know about soundproofing back then. And, and you know what? That episode did very well for us. It was fine. Yeah. It worked out.Um, yeah, so it's, once again, this is, We're, we're hitting upon this beat that the more we try to perfect something, the more we are delaying getting feedback on whatever it is we're trying to put out. Our audience will tell us that they want it different. Our audience will tell, you would never have known your audio didn't sound great until you listened to it.And, and ultimately you decided, okay, we're gonna put this out and then we're [00:38:00] gonna make a shift. Um, I would never know how to refine my events unless I launch my event. We, we learn in the process of, of releasing things to market and allowing, allowing feedback to enter into our ecosystem. Well, absolutely.Lesley Logan: Um, the co team membership we have now just turned, it's about five and a half years old at this point, but when. Seven years ago, I launched something very similar, but I perfected it. I made sure everything was ready to go. I went, I launched it, and guess what? No one actually bought it. No one did, because I didn't get feedback along the way.I actually wasn't talking. I wasn't even talking about it along the way. So no one even knew it was even coming because heaven forbid I tell anyone and then they ask me a question and I like start to doubt myself and my imposter comes in. So I protected this goal. All by myself, did it all myself. And then, and then guess what?I got to keep it all to myself. Cause no one wanted it. And so after six months of trying to make this thing work, uh, we took it all apart. We broke it [00:39:00] down to pieces and I did what I should have done, which is just put one piece of it out. See if people liked it, get feedback on it, put a different piece of it out, see what happened.And what ended up happening over the next year and a half is what we found people really liked. We put that together, made a membership out of it, and now we've coached over a thousand people with it. So, you know, like ...(Patrick: That's amazing.) It, it's amazing. And with the smaller version of, we've coached over 2000 businesses with it.So it's like, what is so cool is I definitely had to learn the hard way, but since learning that now, it's always like we put the thing, I'm thinking of doing this out there. What's the feedback gonna be? What are the questions people are gonna ask me? What weird stuff am I gonna see out there so that I can go, oh, okay.People either didn't understand what I was saying or they loved it, or I can do this. And it really helps you know where you should be spending your time so that you can take your amazing way of goal setting and work backwards before I spent another year on something that nobody knows they want. James Patrick: I think what's [00:40:00] important to take from this is this ability to launch and to put something out there.It is not a talent. We are not born with this. This is not innate to anyone. This is a skill. This has to be developed. Um, you, you developed this through podcasting. You developed this through, through trying to launch programs. You developed this by, by putting yourself out on YouTube, you had to learn and exercise this muscle that taught you to.Test things out and to put things out and to try things and to get feedback. I had to learn this as a journalist. Um, that's why, you know, I, I started, uh, my career in journalism as I mentioned, I didn't have the benefit of ever experiencing writer's block. Weren't allowed to have writer's block cuz you had deadlines.So writer's block was not a thing. You had to write, you had to turn in and you had to get it into, into print. You just wrote, you don't know what to write. Doesn't matter. You write, it's filled, theirs, doesn't matter. You gotta send it in. [00:41:00] And having that experience of it, it has to go in. You cannot, I worked in a newspaper.It's not like you can put out a blank page in a newspaper. You have to turn something in. Um, you get really used to this idea that it's okay, you can put it out. And then work on the next thing. Mm-hmm. Um, so I think this is, you know, for those listening, you're like, well, I just don't have that in me. Well, you don't because you haven't yet.Mm-hmm. Um, it's like when someone says, you know, well, I don't have a background or any experience in marketing. I says, no one does. No one has a background in marketing until they market. Like no one has a background in sales until they sell. No one has a background in anything until they do it. You don't have a background in shipping things out the door until you start doing Lesley Logan: it.Yeah. He made me like think of like, you know, Seth Godin? He talks about how like writer's block, he's like, do you have talkers Block? Have you ever had that? No. You, you don't have writer's block, you just have like an imposter. Like you just have this fear of being rejected and that's why you're not putting on the [00:42:00] page, but you.You hit the nail. It's like we have to be nice to ourselves and like it's like you're, the goals you have in this life you wanna (...) Be part of every single goal that you don't know how to do. Otherwise you wouldn't even have the goal cuz you could just freaking do it. And it's like learning a new skillset set at a gym.You have to learn the muscle on how to do it. You don't have that experience. And so of course you'll have imposter syndrome around it. Of course you're gonna have fear around it. You're new to it. Mm-hmm. And so having some grace for yourself to be new and to learn something and to make mistakes, that's how you learn.The best lessons I've ever learned in life is every failure I've ever had. And also, we are the worst people to judge the content we're putting out. Because some of this stuff. Some of the episodes that I was like, oh, I don't know how that's gonna land. People thought it was the most amazing episode.And I was like, oh, okay, well then who I, who am I to judge? Cuz clearly I am not the audience. So I think, you know, we get in our own way and we're, and, and to use your words again, we're robbing people [00:43:00] the experience of, of what we have to put out there, if we just pick it apart and make it so perfect before we put it out there.James Patrick: Yeah. I, I just think we have this disproportionate fear of a fallout that even when things don't work, and I've had plenty of things that, that did not work as, as I hope they would. It is not relative to what could actually happen. Mm-hmm. Or how bad things could actually be or really not be. Um, you know, I've, I've never had to go hungry.I've never had to sell my car. I've never had to live, you know, sell my house because, because something didn't work. I'm just fine. Like it's okay. There's enough things that do work. Lesley Logan: Yeah. And also like the reality is nothing has ever goes as bad as we think it's gonna go. Or as great as we think it's gonna go.Yes, yes. It's just like, it just you, it's okay to to have those both extremes and just know, okay, if I land somewhere in the middle, it's gonna be pretty darn good. I James Patrick: get so mad every time I [00:44:00] read a book where some, some jackass is like, you know. So I launched the website and the next day I woke up and I couldn't believe it.There was a hundred thousand dollars in my bank account. I'm like, screw you all that piss. Uh, the thing that I saw, I saw this last week and this really chat my ass where it was an online coach. I don't know why, for someone who works as a coach, why get so upset by other coaches. But they were like bragging about how much money they've made thus far in the year and like, here's how much money I've made thus far this year.And, and I apologize if you've done this. I, I, I don't know if you have, but, um, I was like, okay, why are you doing this? And then it was Carousel and they were talking about, okay, I've made this money this year, here's how I did it. But it was all a bunch of kind of bullshit advice. Like I showed up every day.Okay, and you're saying this to people who are working their asses off. This is so cruel and what you're doing is, one, you're creating this misperception that if you show up every day and these people are already working 12 to 14 hours a [00:45:00] day, they cannot work any harder than they're working. And that, number two, that you must know something that they don't, so they should be giving you their harder money.I'm like, what you're not talking about is the fact that the reason you're making this much money within the first two months of the years because you've put in 10 years of background work that allows you the relationships, it allows you the access, it allows you the opportunities. It allows you the insights and the perspective and the hindsight to know what works and what doesn't work.Like it is so inappropriate to, to cast that in front of someone else and, and, and use it in just such a braggadocious way. So why did I put on that tangent? Oh, oh, Lesley Logan: success. Yeah. Yeah. I, but thank you for sharing that. And I think everyone needs to listen like, You know, first of all, I've never posted like, this is not much money I made and just show up every day.Fuck that. Like, no, I use math. I use like, I also, I also think it's like, one of the things I think maybe is why people like me, um, and I'll just brag a little bit. It's like I'm very fucking [00:46:00] honest and very direct. Mm-hmm. Like the reason I'm really good on camera is cuz I took a commercial acting class.Okay. Like, that's why I can look at the dot as an elder millennial and think of it as a person. That's why I can picture the humans on the other side, cuz. Somebody somewhere said you should do commercial acting. And you guys, I was a, I landed all the jobs and then I took this class and I never landed a single one after that.However, I was so good before, however, It allowed me when I got the opportunity to be on camera for fitness to actually, like I have done many a live news show because I am not scared to look at that post-it that they said, this is your eye line and like picture the audience because I had this opportunity.That is not a natural strength that anyone has. You have to learn that and you're either gonna learn it the hard way or you're gonna learn it by taking a class and hiring someone but you, it's just not your like natural. To like do those things. And so I think just to your point, it's like anyone you're looking at who's saying all these things and you wanna have those things, you should know that [00:47:00] there was a million other things that got them there.Some things were by chance some things were relationship and thumbs thingss were skillsets that they might not even realize helped them get there, cuz maybe they haven't done that work. But every step along the way, along your journey, James, along mine, along those of you listening, is like, it all leads you to where you are so you don't have to discount anything you've ever been through.Like the jour, the, the left hand turn that was the wrong way or the goal that didn't go the way you wanted. Just like James said, you this, this process isn't a guarantee that you'll hit every single goal you've ever wanted, but it is going to progress you somewhere. James Patrick: Mm-hmm. I, I was, uh, recently reading Robert Irvine's new book, chef Irvine.He did that show Restaurant Impossible. Uh, I, I got a copy of his book cuz he was on my show and, um, no, he'll never listen to us. It was okay. Uh, but the thing that I appreciate the most about it was this one line that says [00:48:00] I make decisions on my business based on fact, not emotion. The balance sheet does not lie.Mm-hmm. I was like, oh shit. I am so guilty of letting my emotions decide how I feel and what decisions I need to do based on. Well, I'm feeling a little nervous about this, or, you know, uh, I'm just not sure, you know, maybe I need to pull back the reins or, or I'm ignoring my balance sheet.I'm like, oh, things are going great. You know, and, you know, may maybe things are, are are dumpster fire. Um, the balance sheet doesn't lie. And for so many years I was so afraid to look at my balance sheets because I didn't want to look at the truth of what I was doing. Once I started doing that, and it was very uncomfortable by the way, to look at my balance sheets versus how much time I was spending on my business, uh, how much we were taking in on the top [00:49:00] line, what we were taking in after expenses.Um, but once I started doing that, once again, this was a muscle, I started making such better decisions about the future and the direction of, of the work I was doing. But it required accepting, looking at hard data and fact. Um, so I I love that you brought up your, that, that, you know, your balance sheets, you know, you can look at the math and I was like, oh, I just read that.That was so good. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Lesley Logan: I, that's, that is such, that's a, a hard skill set for people to learn because they, they're so passionate about what they're doing. But, um, you know, my husband and I held some in-person events at our house. There were business retreats. Her fitness instructors and the first one was phenomenal.Sold out, no problems, no issues. The second one was like fucking pulling teeth. And we knew it was a great thing. Like I loved doing it. He loved doing it. The people who came, we had 24 testimonial videos that were 10 minutes long, like [00:50:00] so great, but for whatever reason, we couldn't get the second one to go.And so when you look at the balance, she's like, this is a great idea. That requires a bigger wait list than we have. And so to do it again, we need to build that wait list up and give ourselves another year before we do it again. Like just give ourselves a time because I do love doing it, but it also has to pay for itself and then some.So cuz otherwise the IRS is gonna call me a hobbyist and not gonna let me keep going.James Patrick: Yeah, I, I remember the first year I launched my conference. Anyone that's attend at my conference, I've told this story, uh, it didn't work the first time we tried to launch it. We tried to launch it in June of 2015, and about a week before the event I had sold two tickets. I had, uh, five times as many speakers as I had attendees.Um, I had a hotel reserved for this event. Uh, I had a deposit. I signed a deposit. [00:51:00] Um, obviously I cannot host an event for two people as I have 10 speakers. This is not going to work. So, um, you know, we, we ate a little bit of our investment on the hotel, and we bumped the event by three months. Uh, we sent a extremely, uh, like sorrowful mea culpa to all the speakers apologizing that we have to bump the event and, and please accept our sincerest, uh, you know, apologies for, for having to push this. And we hope that they'll join us when we redo this event in October. And then I did a massive, uh, overgiving of service to the two people who, um, you know, with the canceling event, obviously we refunded them. I did one-on-one coaching with them.We gave them free passes to the, to the event where we hosted it. But it required a re-approach. Like we needed to redo this, we needed to do this differently. We needed to shift how we were marketing. We were, we were very reactive in our marketing and very [00:52:00] reactive in our approach, thinking that our clout or our, our, our, our network or whatever it was, was just gonna be enough to move this, this along.And we realized, no, we have to really put forth some energy into, into moving these tickets. And three months later, the event was sold out. Hmm. Packed house. Not a single seat available, but it required that failing. Yeah. In order to realize, oh no, we need to shift our approach here. This needs to be done differently.But once again, we didn't know. Yeah. Not cuz we never host an event before. And Lesley Logan: also like you would not have learned those things if it had half sold out. If it had half sold out ...(Lesley: good point.) You would've probably gone through, you would not have known what worked or didn't work, and you might not have ever had another event again.She's like, well that. It was like, okay, it was okay. You know? Yeah. So I think like, um, I, I just to like bring this back to the goals, it's like, it is not about the perfection of achieving the goal, it's about the progress along the way, and it really does force you to change who you are [00:53:00] along the way to become the person who can do these goals.James, I could talk to you forever. I think this happened on your podcast as well. So you all, if you wanna just continue, you definitely have to go to Beyond the Image pod and listen to my episode on there. Before I let you go, we're gonna take a quick break and then we'll find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, and your Be It action items.All right, James, where do you like to hang out on the socials? Where can people go to an event, maybe get this, uh, can you have a, a way for them to understand how you do the goals, the way you do them, anything like that? Yeah. James Patrick: So, um, I, I like to make things super easy for people. So, you know, Instagram's home for most people.So, @jpatrickphoto on Instagram, um, I did take this approach to goal setting and about a year ago, I decided I just wanted it in a P D F for myself because I got tired of working in an Excel document. And then a couple of my clients saw and they said, well, can we have that? I said, sure. So I, I packaged it and, and sent it out to about 50 of my [00:54:00] clients and said, well use it for a year and then let me know what you thought about it. Um, and they did, and then we, we packaged it into an actual planner. So it's called the Legacy Planner, and it's available on Amazon. Uh, you know, you can get a hard copy, you can get a Lesley Logan: paper back or Oh my gosh, my peeps are going to love that. They can buy a hard copy of a planner.James, do you know? Well, I'm, I'm all James Patrick: about tactile, like, I like writing things down. And the way it works is you build out your vision for the year. Then from your vision, you build out all your annual goals from your annual goals. You build out your quarterly plans. From your quarterly plans you build out your monthly actions. From your monthly actions you build out your weekly sprints, and from your weekly sprints, you build out what you do every day of the week. So it's a, it's an annual to daily planner. Um, and, uh, this is what moves us forward in our, in our, in our goals. So, yeah, you can get it on Amazon or, uh, if you just wanna try it out, go to jamespatrick.com/legacy.I just uploaded the PDF of it. [00:55:00] You can download the parts you want, print it out, try it out, and just see how it works, uh, because I'd rather you customize this and make this your own. Uh, as long as it means that, that you're moving forward and you're actually exercising this muscle. Lesley Logan: Oh, I, I'm not kidding.Like I can tell you right now just because at the end of every year inside my coaching community, like what are your favorite goal planners? I like this one. I like this one. And I was like, I can't, I can't read my own handwriting though. I don't have, but I want yours, so I'm gonna go to Amazon and get it.Um, Imma I'm gonna have it primed over tomorrow so I can take it to Mexico while I'm, while I'm on vacation thinking about things. James, um, before I let you go, You've given us so many amazing tips, but bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see James Patrick: it. The first thing is not to rely on reactive approaches to, to anything.Don't rely on reactive marketing. Don't rely on reactive business development. Don't rely on reactive launch [00:56:00] strategies. You have to be proactive, and that's so much of what we talked about today is how to set a goal, how to reverse engineer that goal and how to put things into motion to test to see how things work in, in the refinement.And then that kind of leads into the second thing is a perfect idea will be infinitely less successful than an imperfect idea that was actually put out. When we put something out to market, we get feedback. When we get feedback on something, we know how to refine it, how to adjust it, how to make it better. We need to stop looking at things as static.Even this planner is not static. I can change this at any point and release a new edition. Even though this is a print thing, I can always revise this. Things are dynamic and we

Kareen Walsh is a startup adviser, investor, serial entrepreneur, executive coach, author, and podcaster. She is the CEO and Founder of Revampologist, a 7-Figure Boutique consulting and coaching company and co-founded the Clevr Network. With 17+ years of entrepreneurial and executive experience leading and advising industry leaders, Kareen is hyper focused on leadership to help businesses scale. Her clients include trillion-dollar companies like BlackRock, Groupon, Broadridge as well as startups, and she helps leaders align what they love with what they do, and monetize it. She believes if you are not growing, your business won't grow, and uses her books Lead with Value and Be A Badass, along with her Podcast Your Badass Journey as ways to share the methods of personal and professional growth.

Are you an entrepreneur or business owner looking to take your business to the next level?   In this episode of the Happy Hustle Podcast, I chat with Kareen Walsh,  a visionary business and people strategist, author, podcaster, investor, and a 7-figure business-building entrepreneur making her the ultimate BusinessHealer.   Kareen shared her four strategic steps for taking aligned action in your business. She also stressed the importance of holistic work/life integration and the role of personal growth in business success. She believes that integrating all aspects of your life and aligning your values with your business goals is key to achieving sustainable success. With nearly 2 decades of experience optimizing performance in the health & wellness, eCommerce, technology, and finance industries, running top-performing teams in complex environments, Kareen has a proven track record of helping C-Suite executives turn their vision of impact into action often resulting in 10Xing their investment.   She is on a mission to help entrepreneurs integrate their inner business with their vision for external impact so they can get out of their own way and stand in alignment.   If you want to take your business to the next level and achieve the success you deserve, connect with Kareen at https://www.kareenwalsh.com/links   In this episode, we cover:   [00:10:09:04] 4 Strategic Steps To Alignment[00:06:42:21] Aligning Your Inner Work is Key to Sustainable Success[00:39:20:29]Business Healing and the Power of the Retrospective Exercise[00:24:57:16] Staying Aligned with Your Business Value[00:29:50:10] Happy Hustle Hacks [Health, Money, Entrepreneurship, Spirituality][00:32:00:09] Rapid-fire questions What does Happy Hustlin mean to you?  Kareen says it means that I am aligned within myself on every step I take in my hustle. Like it truly is feeling grounded and curious and knowing that I am capable. Connect with Kareenhttps://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalsh/https://www.facebook.com/coachkareenwalshhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kareenwalsh/ Find Kareen on this website: https://www.heykareen.com/         https://www.kareenwalsh.com/links  Connect with Cary!https://www.instagram.com/cary__jack/https://www.facebook.com/SirCaryJackhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/cary-jack-kendzior/https://twitter.com/thehappyhustlehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFDNsD59tLxv2JfEuSsNMOQ/featured  Get a free copy of his new book,  The Happy Hustle, 10 Alignments to Avoid Burnout & Achieve Blissful Balance https://www.thehappyhustlebook.com/  Sign up for The Journey: 10 Days To Become a Happy Hustler Online Course http://www.thehappyhustle.com/JourneyApply to the Montana Mastermind Epic Camping Adventure https://caryjack.com/montana “It's time to Happy Hustle, a blissfully balanced life you love, full of passion, purpose, and positive impact!” Episode Sponsor Did you know that 4 out of 5 Americans are magnesium deficient?  And almost everyone is at suboptimal levels. And that's a big problem because magnesium is involved in more than 600 biochemical reactions in our body. Now here's what most people DON'T know: taking just any magnesium supplement won't solve your problem because most supplements use the cheapest kinds that your body can't use or absorb. That's why I exclusively recommend Magnesium Breakthrough. It's the only full-spectrum magnesium supplement with 7 unique forms of magnesium that your body can actually use and absorb. When you get all 7 critical forms of magnesium, pretty much every function in your body gets upgraded... from your brain... to your sleep... pain, and inflammation...and less stress. BiOptimizers only offers this discount once a year, so don't miss out. Just go to www.bioptimizers.com/happy and enter code happy10 to get 10% off any order.   I assure you that all BiOptimizers supplements are best in class. If for some reason you feel differently, you can get a full refund, no questions asked. They are so confident that they offer a 365-day money-back guarantee!

Our guest today is Karren Walsh, the real-life Wendy Rhodes from Billions - and Executive Coach for peeps in the C-suite. Kareen has mastered integrating her heart of service, healer training, and business savvy to assist entrepreneurs and C-suite leaders of any industry in aligning what they love with what they do every single day.Here is some of what you'll find out in today's episode:Are all leaders in the C-suite narcissists?What makes C-suite folks different then other people?The number one difficulty C-suite executives have and is what almost everyone struggles with (maybe you as well).What to focus on instead of the outcome to achieve success in anything.What it means to be a “conduit” for clients, and what it requires.What survival mode has to do with intuition.What Kareen is building to create an alternative to the lack of control we have on Social Media.And, of course, what happened to Kareen when she didn't trust her intuition, and an amazing story of what she accomplished when she did.Grab Your Gift from Kareen:https://www.kareenwalsh.com/linksInstagram: @kareenzwalshhttps://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalsh/Sign up for the free Masterclass Intuition 101: How to Trust Yourself in Uncertain Times here:https://howtotrustyourintuition.com/To get your free session and sign up for Maya Diamond's program, go here:https://empowerlove.us/apply/(Make sure you mention this podcast to get your free 60 minute one-on-one bonus session with Maya via zoom, worth $500!)Follow us on Instagram: @howtotrustyourintuition https://www.instagram.com/howtotrustyourintuition/Sign up for the free Masterclass Intuition 101: How to Trust Yourself in Uncertain Times here: https://howtotrustyourintuition.com/ To get your free session and sign up for Maya Diamond's program, go here:https://empowerlove.us/apply/(Use the code BETSY 100 to get your free 60-minute one-on-one bonus session with Maya via Zoom, worth $500!)Follow us on Instagram: @howtotrustyourintuition https://www.instagram.com/howtotrustyourintuition/ If you don't trust yourself, who will?

In This Episode, We Talk About:   You are enough!   Leverage your community for growth!   Finding your life vision!   Resources + Links:   Connect with Kareen | Kareenwalsh.com | Hey Kareen Platform | Links   Text PODCAST to 480-605-4814 to get VIP updates from Kara!   What's YOUR Financial Archetype? TAKE THE QUIZ   ………………………………….   Connect with Kara on Instagram | @kara_ayala   Check out how you can work with Kara | karaayala.com   Join Kara's FREE Facebook group: https://kara-ayala.mykajabi.com/offers/aubrLymR/checkout Show Notes: Stop comparing yourself to everyone else! What is your zone of genius? What lights you up? There are more ways than ever to make money. Are you getting in your own way by comparing yourself to others and “shoulding” all over yourself? If so, today's episode is for you. I am joined by Kareen Walsh and she is sharing her words of wisdom with us on how to get out of your own way and go after your life's vision. She is a life and business coach who has helped many individuals and companies reach that next level. We also talk through ways of leveraging your community for growth, getting to know others and what they are bringing to the world as well as asking for support you may need. Kareen also shares with us her views on creating the life you want, overcoming imposter syndrome and reflecting on life experiences that may be holding you back. Who do you need to become to create the life you want? Stop letting the old version of you stop the future version of you from flourishing! You get to decide who you become and what you create in this life! 02:45 What led Kareen to explore self-employment? 07:00 Don't work for money, work for wisdom and skill building.  08:50 What is your life vision? 12:05 The definition of success is different for everyone.  13:20 How to get out of your own way. 15:15 What lights you up in life? 16:34 Leveraging community for growth. 21:20 How does Kareen help build leadership in companies? 24:20 Navigating imposter syndrome. 27:05 You are enough! 30:25 What is the 2023 version of you? 32:40 What shifted Kareen from scarcity to abundance mindset? 36:15 Why is financial freedom important for Kareen? 38:35 It's ok to desire more wealth!  

In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks with the Founder, CEO and Business Advisor of Revampologist, LLC, Kareen Zahr Walsh.Kareen emphasizes that change is necessary to achieve different outcomes, particularly in business. She notes that leaders often have to navigate various dynamics when it comes to change and must be comfortable with change to effectively lead their teams through it and achieve the desired results. This highlights the importance of having a mindset that embraces change rather than resisting it to succeed in today's fast-paced business environment.Kareen works with her clients to help them achieve their desired results by providing them with strategies and toolkits. These tools are designed to help her clients navigate the change they need to make to reach their goals. She also works for teaching her clients how to be comfortable with change, and how to accommodate it. By providing her clients with both the practical tools they need to make change happen and the mindset they need to be comfortable with it, Kareen helps her clients achieve their desired outcomes. This approach helps clients understand how to implement change sustainably, making it more likely for them to have long-term success.Key points from the Episode:What does Revampologist do?Understanding why people fear changeEmbracing change with preparedness and agility toolkitInsights on Kareen Walsh help entrepreneurs embrace changeIntrospections on how leaders can grow and be ready for changeAbout Kareen Zahr Walsh: Kareen is the CEO and Head Strategist of Revampologist – A Strategic Growth consulting and coaching practice that helps thought leaders build 7-8 figure businesses with ease. She has 17+ years of experience coaching C-Suite executives to help them up-level their leadership stance, conceive and implement business growth strategies, and lead initiatives that result in high quality customer experience.Kareen Walsh has mastered integrating her heart of service, her healer training, and her business savvy to assist entrepreneurs and C-suite leaders of any industry align what they love with what they do every single day. Kareen believes income can always be earned, but fulfillment is what each of us should strive to attain. Kareen can disarm you with undivided attention and help you quickly jump into action after one short interaction. You are going to want to hear how Kareen shares her clarifying and actionable methods for growth in her book, Lead with Value, How Leaders Unleash Their Vision, Empower Their Team, and Evolve Their Business, because you will love how her relatable, practical practice will help you lead. She is also the author of the self-development book: Be A Badass, Six Tools to Up-Level Your Life. About Revampologist: Strategic Consulting, Advisement and Augmented Staffing Services are geared toward businesses aiming to optimize and scale their operations. They are brought in to assist executives in determining the skills required to help them achieve their corporate objectives. They assist c-suite leaders in matching who they want to become with the growth of their business through their leadership development and executive coaching programs.They begin each encounter with a brief examination and suggest how they may best assist you. Fintech, Health and Wellness Companies, Digital Marketing Agencies, Staffing Services, and Executive Advisory and Coaching are among their specialties.Links Mentioned in this Episode:Want to learn more? Check out the...

Kareen Walsh is a startup adviser, investor, serial entrepreneur, executive coach, author, and podcaster. She is the CEO and Founder of Revampologist, a 7-Figure Boutique consulting and coaching company and co-founded the Clevr Network. With 17+ years of entrepreneurial and executive experience leading and advising industry leaders, Kareen is hyper focused on leadership to help businesses scale. Her clients include trillion-dollar companies like BlackRock, Groupon, Broadridge as well as startups, and she helps leaders align what they love with what they do, and monetize it. She believes if you are not growing, your business won't grow, and uses her books Lead with Value and Be A Badass, along with her Podcast Your Badass Journey as ways to share the methods of personal and professional growth. Listen to learn: Four strategic steps to take aligned action How to identify and monetize your unique ‘zone of genius' How to ask for what you want Why lack of trust is the biggest block to building scalable businesses Why quickness of recovery from failure is the best test of great leadership How to build great teams by simplifying your daily practices as a founder or CEO How to hire unstoppable leadership teams (Hint: Stop assuming, start listening) Why too many founders are unaware of their true ‘zone of genius' and how to find and align with it Why success is about quickness of recovery from failure Why your own self care is critical to your success And much more Keep the conversation going on Podopolo in the Wings of Inspired Business episode comments and invite your friends to connect around podcasts recommended personally for you.

In Today's Episode of You Can Overcome Anything! Podcast Show, CesarRespino.com brings to you a special guest by the name of Kareen Zahr Walsh.Kareen Walsh is a Start Up Adviser/Investor. Serial Entrepreneur. Executive Coach. Healer. Author. Podcaster.She is the CEO/Founder of Revampologist, LLC a 7 Figure Boutique consulting and coaching company. She has 17+ Years entrepreneurial and executive experience leading and advising industry leaders. Her unique approach in her service based business has a lens on People, Process, and Technology and hyper focus on Leadership to help businesses scale. Clients include trillion dollar companies like BlackRock, Groupon, Broadridge to Start Up Companies getting ready to launch.She has built her 7-figure business by helping source the expertise her clients need, and coaching leaders on how to align what they love with what they do, and monetize it! She believes if you are not growing, your business won't grow, and uses her books Lead with Value and Be A Badass, along with her Podcast Your Badass Journey as ways to share the methods of personal and professional growth with you.Kareen Walsh' message to you is:Don't let the limitations of others become your own. Your path is yours to follow and no one else's.To Connect with Kareen Walsh go to:kareenwalsh.com or @kareenzwalsh on instagram or Kareen Walsh on linkedin.To Connect with CesarRespino go to:

Who told you couldn't do the thing you want? Who shaped your belief about money, faith, and relationships? This episode is a deep dive into helping you rediscover the why behind what you believe and the encouragement to become the person you want in this life. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How do you plan for the next year?Decide what you don't want in the new year to lead what you do wantStarts acting as if you already are the person you want to beThe impact of the vulnerability in conversations You never have to go through your struggle aloneHow to ask better questions with intention The separation of Depression and AnxietyWhy you need to be clear on why you believe what you believe.New Year, New You is a lie. Episode References/Links:Join us on Tour!Get on the Cambodia Waitlist!Elevate mentorship Program If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Brad Crowell   Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan  Welcome back to the interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to talk about the emotionally available convo I had with Jeremy and Zach in the last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, pause this now, go back and listen to that one, or listen to this one and then listen to that one. I mean, honestly, I think you could do either order on all of our episodes. I also know from the download that some of you just do the recap. So I feel like everyone's on the got a lot of people who enjoy the short version.Brad Crowell  Yeah, I mean, it's, it was a good recap. Those guys seem pretty cool. I'm a big Star Wars fan myself, so maybe we'll be hanging out and doing Star Wars talking someday.Lesley Logan  I feel like whenever I interview any men, they bring up Star Wars. I think there's very few interviews with men that have not brought up Star Wars. (Brad: Many men) So maybe (Brad: wish death upon me) like, like maybe Michael is the only one. (Brad: Yeah, right.) So anyways, yeah, I thought they were really amazing. And it was a really neat conversation to have and there's some very awesome BE IT action items that we get to talk about. But I just want to say it's so nice to be back from Dallas on this like really short opportunity to be in our house together. That's been a crazy, like we were we were talking about this in Arizona, or maybe it was in Cambodia. But how since end of August, we really haven't been home for a full two weeks ever.Brad Crowell  You have clearly stated find the fact that you can remember where we were when we were talking about this.Lesley Logan  No. And then also when we were home, there are people here at the home. So like, right now we have like, seven, six days together in our home for the first time since (Brad: In a long time.) August. I don't think we've had six days in our home (Brad: Oh really) together without anyone in our home. No. Five is the longest. (Brad: Wow.) Yeah. And that was between photoshoots and we had to go. Anyways, so I just got back from an amazing time in Dallas with Erika Quest. She is just I mean, she's a fucking amazing person, one of my best friends. And we have now made this an annual trip to teach in Dallas and we're actually going right back there, Brad and I exactly to where I just Pilates for our tour.Brad Crowell  I was feeling left out. So (Lesley: Yeah, well you know ...) you know I felt like crash the party and actually just take over and do it on my own.Lesley Logan  Our Pilates lovers there were missing Brad and specifically also a workout. So we are going on tour and our first stop is in Frisco and ... (Brad: Frisco) If there are any spots left in any of our classes that are tour, you can find them at onlinepilatesclasses.com/tourBrad Crowell  Yeah, we'll be doing two in Frisco and then Houston the next day.Lesley Logan  Houston and then we head to Nashville. Hi Lauren Zoeller. And we've got a bunch of fan favorite people in Nashville. And then we are going to Atlanta to Joel studio. Just actually outside of Atlanta, it's called Duluth. Don't complain about the drive. If you live in Atlanta, you can do this. And then we go to Greensboro, which is like (Brad: North Carolina) hey, first time doing that. (Brad: Yeah it was first.) And then we're going to do a little Christmas time. Then in Cleveland, then in St. Louis. And then we are home in time for New Year's for our ...Brad Crowell  But we will be stopping through Denver for lunch. So (Lesley: Yeah, Denver keeps ...) on the way home at post Xmas we'll be fooding in in Denver.Lesley Logan  We'll be fooding in in Denver for lunch. (Brad: Yeah) We're gonna pick a spot where maybe this spot we went to last year where people could just find food anywhere, that (Brad: It was perfect actually.) was pretty great. So (Brad: Yeah) we'll figure out whatever the place that was. But if you are in Denver, and you want to be on that invite list, we'll just watch out for emails and stuff. You want to go on the tour, go to onlinepilatesclasses.com/tour. Also a couple things if you'd like hanging out with us, we have actually announced our presale for the Cambodia retreat next year. Remember, we're only doing one and we let our waitlist there's no first so if you were not on the waitlist and you really want to go, well I hope there's a spot for you. I'm sure there will be and if not just DM me and I will help you get that information. So you do not miss out on the opportunity to go to Cambodia with with us because we're only going one time next year. (Brad: Yeah) So there's that. And then finally, I'm so excited about this. You probably haven't heard me talk about it for a while. And that's because honestly, it keeps selling out. So, I haven't even like brought it up. But if you have been following this path for a while you know that I have a mentorship program for Pilates teachers. It's called eLevate, and we decided to do our first round here in 2022. It sold out with amazing, amazing crew. So we did a second round which are sold out. And then the third round, we're actually going to kick off in May, and that of 2023, which I know you're like, "Lesley, it's only December." Yes. But you know, mentorships are a big commitment. And we like to give people a lot of time to plan for them. And it does start in May. And there's only a couple spots. So if you are a Pilates teacher who's wanted to dive into the classical method, more understand how I was taught, become like a more of a master teacher, third generation instructor, things like that, if you're wanting to, like, teach more, but not be burned out, this is the program for you.Brad Crowell  Yeah or even explore classical, (Lesley: Yeah) you know if you're coming from anonclassical foundational training, you know, this is a great opportunity to get into all that too.Lesley Logan  Yeah, so you don't have to be classical to do this, you don't have to be contemporary to do this, you can be either or you just have to have been a teacher already.Brad Crowell  At the time, we're recording this, there are three spots available. But if they are filled full, by the time you hear this will be will will add you to the waitlist for the next round, (Lesley: Yeah) round four. SoLesley Logan  So you'll go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. And I it's one of my passion. I frickin love this group of people. It's just so fun for us. So anyways,Brad Crowell  And you get the join the RAD alumni group.Lesley Logan  I know once you graduate, there is a alumni group. (Brad: Great group of ladies.) And there's like, you know, we're we're secretly behind the scenes planning, like a retreat just for Elevators. And so, (Brad: Yeah) yeah, anyway. Well, it's not a secret that I told you about. You don't know where it is or what's going to happen. So that's the secret. Anyways, (Brad: anyways) do we have an audience question to respond to before we start talk about Fit Mess.Brad Crowell  We do. So we were asked, with all the things that you have going on in your life, in your business and your friends and family. How do you make decisions about the upcoming year? And how do you plan for the next year?Lesley Logan  Yeah, well, that's like, this is a great question.Brad Crowell  Also a very broad question but ...Lesley Logan  It super broad. Well, well, well, this will gonna narrow it in to the Be It Till You See It podcast as the filter. (Brad: Sure) So first of all, very important that you ask yourself this, because if you don't plan for yourself, you were you will be planned. Don't worry. Like, (Brad: Yeah) it's not like (Brad: It happens whether you plan it or not.) Yeah, it's the same thing like when are, when Hilary says if you don't brand yourself, other people will brand you. Like, if you don't make goals. (Brad: Hilary Hartling) Yeah, someone else is gonna go, make goals for you (Brad: Right) like, so it's important that you take time to set aside like what you want in your next year. And if you're like, "I don't know what that is" because some people like to do that. How do you want to feel then, like, what is that look like? So make sure you're setting aside time. I like to journal, draw, go for a walk, think about things like that percolate on it a lot.Brad Crowell  She was on episode 57.Lesley Logan  Yeah. And so I'll let Brad answer how he likes to plan his upcoming year. But first and foremost, I definitely throughout the current year, do retrospection that Kareen Walsh has taught us. She was episode, Brad will tell you in a second, and she has a free resource that you can learn how to do this retrospection. But I do it throughout the year, because I like to know how as the years going, like what I don't want in next year, so that when the new year comes, I'm not like, "I'm doing the thing. I don't want to do anymore." And often what you when you know what you don't want it to let you know what you do want. And then I well before, we're probably actually probably plan the next year around beginning of Q four. Because we have to, and some things that we do happen the same time ish every year. So those things happen on that, like they're already planned. But then the next thing I like to think about and it's hard, this is the hard part, this is why this podcast exists is who do you have to be to have the thing you want to have next year and how can you start acting like it now so it actually happens, hello, be it till you see it.Brad Crowell  Well, let me jump in (Lesley: Yeah) because that that's a perfect segue. I'm in the middle of a book right now called The As If Principle by a guy named Andrew Wise... So Richard Wiseman.Lesley Logan  If you guys know him, can you help me out? Because y'all I have been trying to find this man's information. (Brad: Information) And I want him on the podcast.Brad Crowell  Yeah, totally. Richard Wiseman, and a general summary of the concept is to make decisions as if you already are where you want to be. Right? So if you want to be here's a here's a great example. Let's say you want to run a studio that has a team of 10 instructors. Today, you don't have that, but you know that that's where you're going. So if you were going to set up a studio, how would you set up the studio? You would set it up as if you already had 10 instructors? (Lesley: Yeah) Right. So like, would you have a lot of space for a lockers? Would you have a, you know, like a spot for shoes? And like, you know, what are the expectations? How are they checking in? How are they clocking in as an employee? All these kinds of things, you make these decisions as if they're already in place.Lesley Logan  Yeah. And that doesn't mean you spend the money on the clocking and machine or the lockers yet that might ... (Brad: Yeah, not necessarily.) you hold that you you make sure that you have, you hold the space, and you consider that as you're looking for spaces.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, a lot of entrepreneurs will talk about this act as if you are already the seven figure business you want to be. You know, if you are looking to start a family, act as if you already have kids, how would you make a decision? I think, Lesley, (Lesley: Well ...) talked about this before, in your personal life, when you were looking to meet someone and start a relationship, you were acting as if you already had a relationship happening, which was making coffee for two.Lesley Logan  Making coffee for two people. Also making sure that I had evenings or time blocked off that I could not work in case I would go on a date or spend time with that person. (Brad: Sure) And I literally went to New York, my first Christmas being single, so that so that I wouldn't go to my parents house for Christmas, because I was like, "No, I'm going to meet a man who soundly celebrates Christmas and will celebrate Thanksgiving with my family." (Brad: Right) And so I'm not going to go home for Christmas, which really pissed him off. Sorry, guys. But I went to New York and said, and then guess what? We spend Christmas with your family. (Brad: Yeah) So worked out.Brad Crowell  So you know, this concept of acting as if I think it's really cool. I think it's, it's a, I think the hardest part is remembering to do it, to be honest. Because it makes sense to it's very logical. I like it.Lesley Logan  It's because it's easier to do the thing you already been doing and be the person you already are. And because that's, you know that. So I think like, first of all, if you start acting as if and then you revert back to who you once were, it's like, it's okay, because you don't need to be perfect. But also, if you notice that you did that, then you can make a change. Okay, what would I do next time? How can I like, (Brad: Sure) if you set an appointment based on the person you currently are not the person you want to be? Can you cancel the appointment? Can you reschedule the appointment? Can you block your calendar out so that that appointment doesn't exist anymore? You know, there, it's ...Brad Crowell  It's constantly be it till you see it. I think it's like a perfect parallel here. And I mean, it's obviously why we'd love to get ...Lesley Logan  Yeah, so I want it. (Brad: Richard on pod.) So who knows it. (Brad: But um yeah.) But I love this question. I hope that that helps. I feel like it could be a little esoteric, but it's like, think of it ... Sometimes it is easier to think about, you don't want to have happen in your life next year, to figure out what you want to have happen in your life and sometimes easier to figure out how you want to feel in your life next year at the end of it. And then what would be the things that have to happen to make you feel that way? And then finally, who do you have to be to make those things happen? How do you act like that person today? It is a consummate be it till you see it. It's also like, how would Oprah do this? Like sometimes I have like, that's what I have to think. (Brad: How would, what?) Oprah do this. (Brad: Oh, Oprah, Oprah.) Yeah, like, we have a big goal that we want to hit in our business. And I had to make changes in my life, in my routine and in how it worked to make us get closer to that this year. If I want to do it next year, next year. I like up the goal a little bit because you know you have to and because because you need we will I want more. And so it's like okay, well then who do I have to be to that? And sometimes I think Oprah or I, I picture other female business owners who have done things that I want to do but it's not exactly the same, but like it's the it in the most general term, it's the same thing. And then I'm like, "Okay, well, how would how would they do it?" Because they're already there. And I could probably look back at examples of what they did, and then interpret it for myself. So anyways, I love these questions, y'all can send them in to the @be_it_pod on Instagram or you can send it into my team. You can send it anywhere to say this is for the Be It pod, you can also send in your bold moments. It's where you take a BE IT action item.Brad Crowell  Yeah, tell us your bold moments, yell us what's going on for you. We'd love to shout that out.Lesley Logan  Yeah.Brad Crowell  (Brad claps) All right. Hold on. I'm gonna get the dog bed for the dog so she doesn't keep scratching.Holy Cow Gaia surprise. Look. Yeah, good girl. Okay, okay, that's better. All right, so (Brad claps)Okay, now let's talk about Jeremy and Zach from The Fit Mess introduced by through their wives, because I, they said their wives both had daughters at the same time. So (Lesley: Yeah) I'm guessing they met at like, you know, something to do with the kids.Lesley Logan  I know. It's made me, this totally made me think of like you and Eddie and all these friends because it's basically because of Chanda Ashley, myself and a couple other wives that you all got together and expanded and made your own friends.Brad Crowell  Well, Jeremy and Zach formed a quick friendship because of their love of Star Wars. They began to move to have more intentional conversations about their challenges and their struggles, mental, physical and emotional, which led them to the creation of their podcast, The Fit Mess. Zach and Jeremy are on a mission, to share their stories and struggles to empower men to discuss their feelings and emotions and to motivate them to take small steps each week towards a more fulfilling life. And then they also said that a large part of their audience is actually their girlfriends and wives of the men that they're speaking to. But I thought it was really fun to, to connect with them to listen to them talk about their experience.Lesley Logan  You know, I most like, not my football players, but many of the men that I taught in Pilates, I taught them because of their wives. So like, I would teach their wives and their was like, "Husband should be doing this." And I'm like, "Okay, send them in." And, and they would and so it's what I had for a long time, I had more male clients than female clients. Because when you add like the the football players, and then the husbands, I was like, "Well, that's all the intention that I had." But you know what, there are great people that introduce great people. And I think that's what's really cool. So I really, they were talking about, you don't have to go through your thoughts alone, other people in the same place. And you know, it's so this happened when they realized that they were all like, sort of talking around how they were feeling and not really engaging. But when they finally just did, and were just like honest about it, they're like, "Oh, wow, this person feels the same way too." And, you know, I know that they were to my, how, like a lot of men go through this. But if you listen back to the episode, the recent episode with Jessica Valant, when we brought her back, she's like, women are in the school line and they're not talking about how they're really feeling either. They're not talking about what they're really going through either. And so I love that they have a podcast, that they're basically sharing this idea so that other men know you don't have to go through this alone, that you can share your real feelings. But I think in general, what it sounds like is most people are not sharing their authentic feelings with other people in their lives (Brad: Yeah) until it's like this big thing. And like, what if we actually did it throughout the day, throughout the week with the people that we see often?Brad Crowell  Yeah, I think it's, I think that's a good observation. I think that's funny that I didn't actually I listened to it twice. And I didn't actually think about that. But you're right. If if the conversation is about sharing their feelings, genuinely sharing, you're right. The implication is that people don't do that especially men. So I I also thought they kind of had a laugh about their like, you know, oh, yeah the first time we went out to lunch, it was like, I guess we'll talk about cars and sports and stuff that generally, I'm not into, you know, and I was laughing because I was like, "Oh, yeah, okay." I mean, I'm into motorcycles, but I don't really nerd out that much. I couldn't like tell you about some 1965 motorcycle or something. I don't know. You know, so.Lesley Logan  Yeah. I did think of you on that because it's true. Like, I think people have the assumption that that's what men want to talk about. (Brad: Right) Just like they assume women want to talk about these other things like (Brad: Yeah) kids.Brad Crowell  Family, marriage, wedding, wheeLesley Logan  Like no one would actually wants you to ask her about the next wedding date, or when are they gonna have kids? Or if they're gonna have like, no one, you know, one of my friends recently asked me because we're talking about her kid, and she just said, hey, like, it came up in a way that was not actually like, "When are you gonna have kids?" You know what I mean? It was like, "Have you guys thought about that?" I don't know how we would talked about it. And we had an honest conversation around it. But like, I definitely think that people have these like standard questions that they ask people at events, and none of them go deep at all. And it's so (Brad: Right) and that's why no one wants to go to anything. (Brad: small talk) No one wants to have small talk. So what if like one of my Breathwork coaches, she sends out an email every week and it says, "Hey, so and so how are you, really?" And I fucking love that. Because every time I read it, I'm like, "How am I really?" (Brad: How am I really?) You know what I mean? No one's actually asked me that this week. You know, people ask me, "How are you?" But they're expecting, "I'm good." They're, because they're already on to the next sentence. (Brad: Sure) They're not listening. So like, I love that email so much, because it lets me think like, "How am I really?" So, I don't know, I feel I feel like whether it's men or women or even non binary, I feel like we can all do a better job being it till we see it in the conversations that we want to have, asking better questions that actually allow us to, to learn more about the people that we're having a conversation with. You and I are in a Mastermind and there was a couple girls that I've really never like I've I've talked to, but in this group of four, but then we like actually ask different questions. And I'm like, "Oh, my God, how come we've not talked for the whole year? We do the same thing. (Brad: I know) We're going through the same thing?"Brad Crowell  Well, it's it's definitely funny, you know, it's one of those where, I don't know, we, I guess you find yourself in the same group, or the same clique, or the same, you know, conversation over and over and over again. And this time, it was just the the it was very, it was happen instance. We were supposed to go to dinner with a group. And then plans changed, and we shut up the restaurant and then surprise, a whole another group was already there. (Lesley: Yeah) We bumped into them inadvertently, like, who knew.Lesley Logan  Well, this guy is so crazy. So we made a reservation for five. (Brad: Yeah) And five people at six o'clock. And then, like, 20 minutes before, we're supposed to have dinner, three of the five people. So well, two of them weren't gonna come to that because one of them already been in the restaurant. No big deal. We didn't call the change reservation we just showed up. (Brad: Yeah) We walk in. There are three girls from our Mastermind that we had not planned with. They did not have reservation, I'm like, "Great. You're having dinner with us."Brad Crowell  Yeah. And we and we actually, like, you know, of course we know them. But like, we haven't had a chance to hang with them to have like, one on ones and all the things and that was lovely.Lesley Logan  It was so lovely. And like we'll have to figure out how to have some of them on the pod because ...Brad Crowell  Yeah, we definitely went deeper than that's the thing that gave us an opportunity to actually go deeper than casual like, "Hey, cool. How's it going? What do you been up to?" whee next.Lesley Logan  Yeah, well, we got down to like, we knew each other's food allergy. So we're literally at sushi dinner like, "You can have this. I can't have that. You can have." (Brad and Lesley laughs) You know what I mean? (Brad: Yeah that was fun.) Anyways, I just I love that their podcast and their relationship stemmed from this idea that they both had this problem. And they realized that they weren't going through it alone. So they decided to go through it together and be the example of what they want to see in this world. They fucking love that. So what did you love that they said?Brad Crowell  Yeah. Well, so I thought there was something really interesting about the very, very beginning of the pod. They, I can't remember which one actually mentioned, the separation between or the difference maybe, between depression and anxiety, which I mean, obviously, they're different. But what was what was really like, wow, I never thought about it like that before, for me was depression focuses on the past. Anxiety focuses on the future. (Lesley: Yes) And it was very casual. He just kind of threw it in when they were talking about the two things because one of them suffers from depression, the other suffers from anxiety. And they were like, "Oh, yeah, well, he's always lived in the past. And I'm also in the future." And I was like, "Wow, I never thought about that before." (Lesley: Yeah) That's very interesting.Lesley Logan  That's why we've been given today as a gift. It's a present. Right, to be present. Like it's a gift.Brad Crowell  Yeah, there's that. I mean, I ...Lesley Logan  Good luck with being present. But ...Brad Crowell  I've definitely gone through like moments of depression. But I think, for me, consistently through my life has been more anxiety. (Lesley: Yeah) You know, fear of the unknown, fear of failure, you know, fear of the pressure, the pressures of life that, you know, I have to meet these expectations, or, you know, I don't know, pay the bills, even something as mundane as that, you know, and it creates that anxiety where one of my dear friends has suffered from depression. And I've always, I've actually, I've not been able to connect with that nearly as much because it's not something that I struggle with as much. However, listening to them, just throw that one sentences was very revealing for me, oh, wow. Depression, you're focused on the past, anxiety you're focus more on the future. Very interesting.Lesley Logan  Yeah. I think that's interesting. I think some people know that without knowing that and I think some people need to be reminded of that because it can be, it can be hard if you've if you are more one than the other to relate to someone like you just mentioned. But also, if you are with someone who focuses more on the past, asking them questions that just keep taking in the past is not actually that helpful versus like someone who focuses a lot on the future talking about their future. When is your wedding? Are you gonna have kids? (Brad: Right) Are you gonna ... what are you doing that? Like ... Brad Crowell  Oh, this is, (Lesley: you know) very inte... good good observation. Lesley Logan  So this is really funny, because I have some friends who always want to ask things about the future. And like, I love that because obviously be it till you see it like, of course, I must be thinking about the future a lot. But if I live in the future ....Brad Crowell  No, actually be it till you see it is focusing on the present.Lesley Logan  Well, correct. (Brad: Yeah) No, that's the point. But like, you have to know who you want to be in the future to be present in the thing during the be it. Right. (Brad: Yes, yes.) So which I do, but when people like I have a couple of friends who are always asking about the future, "When is this? When is this?" And I'm like, "Oh my God." I just like, "You have no idea what you just put me into these are the things..." Because I can lean (Brad: Sure) anxious, more easily that I can lean depress. I'm not a depress, I don't really. And that's like, sometimes I wonder I'm like, "Is there so much I think about the past little bit more." But like I don't, I like you know, I've moved on, healed from it, dealt with it, decided how I feel about that. I'm good. And so I tend to shy away from people where the questions are all futuristic. (Brad: Interesting) And how are you to do that? What do you do that? What is this going to be? And I'm like, I actually can hear myself try to make the question shorter, or change the subject, because some of those questions can create anxiety, and I'm at a party and now I'm anxious. (Brad: Right) And I'm a high functioning introvert. So I'm already like, "I want to see all of you. I need to go lay down."Brad Crowell  That's a great observation about the questions, you know, and I wonder, like, I wonder, I wonder about the psychology behind that. If it would make more sense to ask future questions to people who are suffering from depression, as opposed to (Lesley: Maybe we'll bring my ...) past questions vice versa, like asking past questions to people who are more prone to anxiety.Lesley Logan  Yeah, so we should have a little like checklist like or a badge. This is my name. And I prefer questions about this. (Brad and Lesley laughs) Like, you know, you have your pronouns and then you have like I lean ... anxious, I lean depressed. (Brad: Right) Please ask me only questions about ...Brad Crowell  Ask me about my future. Ask me about my past.Lesley Logan  Oh, my God. It's like, I think about my Uber profile that I haven't filled out but I want to go like, "I don't want to talk to you."Brad Crowell  Yeah, yeah. But if you have to ask, asked me about my future.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Oh, not me. But yes. So well, maybe we'll have maybe we'll have one of my therapists on. I don't like what my past therapists on to like answer. See if we're on the right track here before.Brad Crowell  Interesting, interesting stuff Physician.Lesley Logan  This is a hypothesis right now, everyone, please don't go like performing an experiment and blaming us. So.Brad Crowell  Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, that's really funny that you say that, because one of the comments that I want to say was Zach hat was my biggest fear is that I will give advice on our podcast that will actually hurt someone.Lesley Logan  Because he's so like, it's so perfectly aligned with his anxiety.Brad Crowell  So, you know, the disclaimer that you just gave that made me laugh. Yeah.Lesley Logan  Well, I think I resonate with him a lot. But I it's true. I'm like, please don't like, you know, go, don't, don't go jump off a cliff. You know what I mean? (Brad: Yeah) Like, like, let's experiment first in a safe place.Brad Crowell  So funny. All right. Okay, now let's talk about those BE IT action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items, can we take away from your conversation with Jeremy and Zach from The Fit Mess? So I'm gonna hop in real quick they're, they each had one that worth, that they shared that was really, really great. I thought it was, I thought this one was really reflective of my life, and it was question your own beliefs. And this is a tough one, I think, you know, especially if you were raised religious, or had a very opinionated adult, you know, in your life, parent, or teacher. And I know, for example, that had I met you prior to my first marriage, there's not a chance that we ever would have been together.Lesley Logan  Oh, for sure. Don't worry, same thing.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Because I had a very specific conceptualization of right, wrong, rules, life, this is how it should, should not be, all those things.The only reason that that changed was because I had an incredibly traumatic event happen, my divorce. And it caused a massive introspection, like reflection, internal reflection of like, what I do wrong, what could I have done better? I think I've reviewed every fucking conversation that she and I had ever had ever, you know, ever. And I analyzed it and thought about it and like, looked to see, what did I miss? How did I, how did I get to where it was? All this kind of thing. And there was so many instances of me deciding I wasn't happy with myself in the situations that she and I had gone through that forced me to look at me. And that was like a unique moment in my life. I don't know that I would have changed or reviewed or questioned my own beliefs. Have I not gone through this emotionally devastating event. Otherwise, I probably would have just, you know, kept on, keeping on. And I would have been the same person that I was. And my life wouldn't be anything like it is today.Lesley Logan  That's true. Well, (Brad: That's true.) I actually really loved when they said that. Because I think people say that, like you should question like, you know, because thoughts become facts, and then facts become me think let me know if you believe it. And like, we think we know, on certain levels, we hear that. But like, have you ever actually written down what you believe? And have you ever there's like thought about like, do you know why you believe that? I'm not saying what you believe as you're listening is wrong, or that should be like, like ...Brad Crowell  I think that's key to clarify.Lesley Logan  Yeah, cuz I actually don't, I think a lot of people most of their beliefs have good intentions. But I do think ...Brad Crowell  Well, I mean, I don't even know if they have intentions or not. (Lesley: Yeah, well, that's ...) It just their belief. (Lesley: Yeah.) Why do you believe what you believe?Lesley Logan  And so not to like, look at your beliefs and go all these are wrong? These ... your beliefs are not wrong, inherently. But do you know why you believe them? And is that belief aligned with who you want to be in this world? (Brad: Yeah) And who you who you want people to think you are in this world? And so I know ...Brad Crowell  And past who, you know, it's also about yourself, like, are you comfortable with those? And why why I think that the asking, why do you believe what you believe? And (Lesley: Oh yeah) actually going back and, like, do you believe what you believe? Because that's what you were told, you read in a book because of personal experience. I mean, there's like only a few options of why you believe what you believe.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I mean, like, think about what you about how you feel about money, your beliefs around that. Who told you that? Your beliefs around yourself, who said that? (Brad: Yeah) Um, your beliefs about other people and how, what their intentions are to other people? Who told you that? Because you grow when you are born, you don't have beliefs. (Brad: Right. You don't.) You are, you know, you want to eat, sleep and pee. Like that's what like that's what your whole intentions are. You know, and then they are passed along and like ...Brad Crowell  They are learned from somewhere.Lesley Logan  They're learn... and I have to say, like, I I don't know how some some of the beliefs that my family had. I thought I didn't believe but like my actions were otherwise when, especially when it came around money, but certain beliefs that like I remember certain family members having around types of people and kinds of people and things like that. I really disagreed with, but and I had to like ask myself was what I, why was, why was I in conflict with that? And what is going on there? And like how do I how do I feel about that? And I think as we get as adults, especially as like everyday, it's feels like the world is burning down. It is challenging your beliefs. (Brad: Yeah) Now, if your reaction is instant, like oh, whatever, that's okay. If you have taken the time to ask yourself why you believe that way, and why you're reacting that way in the moment.Brad Crowell  Yeah. And I think right now, what we're what I'm envisioning in my mind is, you know, very foundational beliefs like religion and, you know, society, you know, other rising people and all that. However, it can be, it doesn't have to be quite as foundational as that. Although this is foundational, not the minimalize it. But I again, I think it was Zach's example was he was overweight as a kid. And so he was always told, you know, you're not good enough. You're the fat kid. And now he's 43. And he's not, you know, overweight anymore. But he still sees himself as that. He's still in, like ...Lesley Logan  That's a complicated, that's it ... That's a complicated belief, because it's, his, his, his thoughts, his beliefs are because what people told him ...Brad Crowell  Yeah, yeah. And when he was talking about this, he was saying, you know, why do I believe that? You know, and like, what, like, where did that come from? And is that something that I should still be holding on to?Lesley Logan  And for the record, overweight or not? No one gets to tell you, you're not good enough. You are good enough by being a fucking human being like, (Brad: Yeah) it doesn't actually matter what the scale says, like, you are good enough. (Brad: Yeah) And I think like ...Brad Crowell  So it's interesting, because, you know, I guess what I was saying was the pe... you know, like, the beliefs that I was challenging were beliefs that that I learned, people were sowing into me with the intention of good, whereas the beliefs that he was, has, has (Lesley: Yeah) learned and embrace were sown into him with the intention of hurt and negative and bad. Either situation you're still embracing beliefs, and why are you doing that? And on should you be.Lesley Logan  Yeah. This is, y'all that's a tough, that's a heavy BE IT action item. And and we gotta just stop there. But we have one more. (Brad: We do.) So good luck with that one, I think it's important to do it around the holidays, specifically, before you hang out with your family. (Brad: Yeah) Because you're going to hang out with your family and you need to, you need to be like really apparent, like, you need to do something really quick. You're going to have conflict with them, whether you say it out loud, or in your head, if you are clear on why you believe what you believe, you will have less anxiety, depression, frustration, like inner turmoil, because you will be found, you will be like, this is this is what I believe. And that's, and they believe that but like, I don't have to believe that.Brad Crowell  Right. You'll be secure in your beliefs.Lesley Logan  In the early part of this year, I, there was a situation that happened. And I called my therapist and I was like, "This happened. I can't believe I did this ... I thought I was over this." And she said, "It's actually okay, you got angry about that. What's not okay is that you got mad at yourself for being angry about that. Like, it's not okay that you judged yourself." That's where the work is. And so, if you do this BE IT action item homework, and you have a moment when you want to punch a pillow at your parents house at Christmas time, that is okay. (Brad: Yeah) Don't get mad at yourself. Don't punch them and don't get and also don't judge yourself.Brad Crowell  Don't touch them and don't judge yourself for getting angry. It's okay to get angry. That's normal. That's life as humanity.Lesley Logan  You are, you're supposed to feel your feelings. (Brad: Yeah) And it is part of the process. Just because you have done the work to figure out what your beliefs are. And then you go and put yourself in a situation where you're frustrated by other people's beliefs because you're like how can you believe that. I love this person and they believe that I don't believe. It is okay to be upset at that. It's not okay to get upset at yourself for being upset that because you're a human being who is in process and you will eventually get to a place where like you can let that go because you know that you're doing the work in other places where it makes a difference. (Brad: Yeah) Anyways, my favorite action item after that heavy one which I don't think that was our attention. But I'm just thinking about the person listening to this and I'm and not time of the year that they're listening to they're like, a lot, guys (Brad: Yeah) Good luck, let me know how it goes. One of, they said, Jeremy said, when, when you when you want to see change in your life, it's more than just a desire, it is a decision. And so you have to see and believe that you are the person that can be and want to be that. So his example was he wanted to be a bike guy. So he didn't just think I want to be a bike guy, someday I'll be a bike guy, and like, look at bikers and go, I want to be a bike guy. I think there was like a cycle, actually versus like a motorcycle. But ...Brad Crowell  Yeah, bicycle. Lesley Logan  So instead of just like wanting to be a bike guy, and someday being a bike guy, he like, rode his bike to work. So guess what? He made the decision. I want to see this change. I want to be this person. I'm going to do this thing to do to have that thing in my life. And I ...Brad Crowell  Yeah, he took took action on it. But also, before even he took action on it, he was specifically he was like, "Oh, it'd be cool if I was the bike guy." And then he's like, "No, it needs to be more than that." It was, I am the bike guy. I am, I'm the guy. I'm the guy who gets up at five in the morning, and gets the, you know, bike, you know, uniform on and rides, you know, 10 miles to get to wherever he's (Lesley: Yeah) going, you know, "I am that guy." And he and he, like, he (Lesley: Yeah) made that decision before he even took that action.Lesley Logan  Which goes back to the question we answered today, which is like, if you are that person who has these goals achieved at the next year, then what like what does that person do? That person puts on that? I think it's like a singlet. That person you know buys these things, that person like has the fancy backpack that has all the things in it, like that you make decisions based on that person. And then you do the, then the actions follow and boom, you are that bike guy. (Brad: Yeah) And so I hope that like especially now everything that's going on if there are changes you want to make in your life, make the decision to have the change happen now and then allow yourself to take action based on as if that change has happened before you seen the results of that change happening and that's what makes the result.Brad Crowell  I think we're talking about New Year's resolutions right now. (Lesley: No, we don't do resolutions ...) I'm aware (Lesley: We do ...) but my point is the process of making change.Lesley Logan  Well, because we we are we be it till we see it, we take messy action and we are we are not making resolutions because of who we want to be next year is just like getting like the up, the new update on the iPhone. There's a new update. Okay, you know, download, implement let's go like all of a sudden your phone has new things it can do because it's like oh like like for example what is ours like a 13 plus or whatever. So but it has the operating system of something something point something, my phone isn't go, "I'm a 13 plus." It goes. "No I'm operating with this system." Like it doesn't doesn't go, "Sorry guys can't upgrade to that." Like you know what I mean? Like it just goes, "Now I have these capabilities," boom. So that's to me ...Brad Crowell  You're speaking my tech language here, Babe.Lesley Logan  I, thank goodness because I was really just like riffing that. You know me, I don't know anything about my tech but I have I wrote that blog years ago with Clare Solly, my slingshot friend. And I wrote like you're there's no such thing as like a new year, new you. It's just the upgraded version of yourself based on the experiences that you have, and the decisions that you've made. (Brad: Yeah) The changes that you do, to be the person you want to be. Boom. I think you're awesome. Thank you so much for listening. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell  And, I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan  How you use these in your life? What are you gonna do? Which one are you going to take action on right now? Which when you take action on the future? We want to know. And so what you need to do is share this with a friend, tag the @be_it_pod and tag The Fit Mess so they can see what actions you're taking and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell  Bye for now.Lesley Logan  Be It Till You See It is a production of Bloom Podcast Network. Brad Crowell   It's written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan. And me Brad Crowell. Our associate producer is Amanda Frattarelli. Lesley Logan   Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing. Brad Crowell  Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan   Special thanks to our designer Mesh Herico for creating all of our visuals, (which you can't see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week, so you can.Brad Crowell  And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each episode, so you can find it on our website. 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An episode all about redefining curiosity. Curiosity, judgement, and awareness is not a positive or negative. It can be neutral, it can be a new way to look at a situation and it can be infinite. Stop limiting your possibilities and begin making demands for yourself. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:- How to become the question - Redefining judgment to not be neutral. It doesn't have to be a positive or a negative thing. - The whole new realm of curiosity. What is curiosity is infinite? - Learning to choose as you go - Going beyond the answer for unlimited possibilities. - Choice creates awarenessIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan  Okay. We're like going sent back to the future, kind of like that. And then when we're going back to the future. I am thrilled. I'm so thrilled. I was recently on our this week's guests podcast, probably earlier this summer, actually. And I was like, "Oh my God, I have to have her back on the pod." Because y'all love her so frickin much like, to this day, I still get people quoting her podcast. She is episode number one numero uno, Joanna Vargas. She's one of the dearest women in my life. She always inspires me, she really like it's like, she's like fuel for like, like the soul like, was it like chicken soup for the soul, she's that she's that? (Lesley laughs) She is. And I wanted to bring her back on because I know that she's like, been changing her business, changing what she's doing. And I think I said this in the podcast, but I'm gonna get a little bit more detailed here. I feel like it's really easy for me to bring guests on, for them to share their story with you and you to go, "Oh, they've made it. Goal achieved. They're it, there exactly... that's it." And I have a guest coming up for you. His name is Alan Jr. Stein, Stein Jr., Alan Stein, Jr. and he said, "You'll never see me in an art museum. I am not going to be a completed work. Like I'm never going to be a finished piece of art. I'm always in process." And so I share that because I brought, I bringing Joanna on because I really do want you to see that we don't, anyone you listen to, anyone you're seeing on social media people that you're aspiring and and being inspired by their not finished pieces of work, they are works in pro... in in progress always or and if they're not, then then they're missing out on the whole point of life I feel like. And so I loved Joanna's vulnerability, her authenticity, how she's willing to share that she is in process. And she is working on something new and working out some new things and just really feeling it out and what does that look like? And I thought it'd be so fun for you to almost get behind the scenes of someone's life. And so I hope this brings you joy, makes you think, makes you ask yourself different questions and allows you to give yourself permission that you are not, you do not have to be perfect, that's boring anyways, and that you to get to be in process, in progress, in practice and whatever other P word that allows you to to grow and be it till you see it. So here's Joanna Vargas.Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right, Be It babes. I have, I have, well, she's a numero uno. She's number one. Joanna Vargas was episode one of the Be It Till You See It podcast. And first of all, when I mean episode one, I mean, before I start this podcast, I was like, "What friends will say yes to someone who has no listeners? And who will believe in in everything that we're doing here?" And Joanna was, well Joanna is always fiery and always inspiring and truly an incredible friend. And so I was recently on her podcast and I was like, "We have to just have you back on and share your journey of where you are now." Because I think a lot of times we get excited about someone and then we just think, "Oh, they've done it. They've made it." Like they're they're in an art gallery. But we're always evolving, always changing. So Joanna Vargas, welcome back to the Be It pod. Tell everybody what's going on, what's been going on since we last spoke?Joanna Vargas  Be It squad, I'm so excited to be here. When, Lesley when you asked me to be on it again. I mean, I'm so blessed and humbled because many times you'll be asked to be on a podcast but when you come back twice is like, oh, yeah. (Lesley: Yeah.) And to be first on yours was so cool. And I still have many of your followers DM me all the time with like questions, because I'm the question girl. So where I am now is a much lighter place than where I was before. I'm not where I would like to be yet, right? I mean, maybe all of us can say that but I'm much better lighter place. And so I'm producing two events right now. And (Lesley: Oh my God.) I got a podcast going on. And I've been teaching a lot more in fitness and really discovering a whole new way to teach fitness so that it doesn't drain and kill me. And you know, it only took 25 years to figure that out. That's where I am now.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Oh, well. Yeah, I that I understand as a, as a teacher as well, I understand that so much. And I think we can even talk about that in a moment. But I, first of all two events, that's, I love it you're like, "I'm in a lighter place. I'm just doing two events and the podcast, and I'm just teaching more." But for those of you who haven't listened to the episode one, you're gonna go back and listen to after this one. Joanna is the question girl, how does it get any better than this? And that's something that like, you've, you've taught me, I have the tattoo, I wonder on my hands, I'm always in wonder because of you. So I'm not getting stuck in the like, what could go wrong? It's like, what what could go right? Like, I wonder what could happen next. And I in my Agency, coaching group, people literally still go, how does it get any better than this? Like after like their wins, after like a thing I say, and it's just so cool that this many years later, I mean, I know you're on the pod last year, but like you've had you in our groups before they still quote that about you. And so, I know like you've made these changes? Are you still the question girl? Are you asking different questions of yourself? Like, what's been going on there?Joanna Vargas  I'm still a question girl. And a new thing that I am developing and kind of moving into is actually being the question. So when I learned how to ask questions, I was asking them. Now I know this may sound like, "Okay, what are you talking about Joanna?" But when you're actually being the energy of curiosity, so you be the question all the time without even having to use words, without even having to use a sentence, you actually be the energy of curiosity, more and more and more. And that's where I'm stepping into. Because I'm noticing Lesley, when I asked questions, I'm kind of going through the motions. And it's almost like it's just a sentence with the question mark at the end. And it almost lost its validity because I was doing it so often. Now, they have opened up so much for me. But I still know that when I was asking the question, I was searching for the answer, even though I was saying I'm looking for the awareness, because an answer is limited. And I was still looking for me, so that I can get it right. I still was looking so that it could feel easy in my life. And what I've discovered is that, 'how does it get any better than this', can actually come into your life as complete shit. (Lesley laughs) And you're like, "This is better?" And I've noticed I'm more aware that I am really judgmental on this is good and this is shit. And so when I ask, how does it get better? I'm actually judging that I want it to feel better. And what if the universe, what if God life wants to gift you something so freakin incredible, that you can't even fathom if you were here for lifetimes and lifetimes and lifetimes. If you had a pen and you can write down a million things that you would never ever, ever come up with. But it may show up and look and feel like shit at the beginning maybe shit for 10 years. But it actually is so incredibly amazing. And so I'm releasing the judgment of I'm asking but with a little asterix of but I want it like this.Lesley Logan  So I this is what I love. Okay, I there's a couple of things here. Because I think when I first met you and you were doing that, how does it get any better than this? You were 'being it' like, you had that curiosity and that energy and you were exploring it. And I think just like any new thing, right? Like, I can do a new fitness thing. We're like, curious and excited. And we're like sharing our goals. And then it kind of becomes part of the routine. And then it big. It's it's like a relationship. Like when you're first a relationship. It's like hot and heavy and so fun and you can't wait to see them. And you're like, when you kiss them, you're actually thinking about kissing them. And then like, you know, you start thinking, "Oh, I'm kissing you. And I also have to get out the door. And I can't forget that thing over there." Like do you know what I mean? (Joanna: And I gotta do laundry and I'm kissing you.) Yeah, yeah, do you what I mean? And so I think it sounds like you're, you're trying to re romance, like bring back the romance of the curiosity and not putting the aspect like, how does it any better than this? And in my head, I'm sending you universe very specific things that I want. And you're getting back into that curiosity, space. And I think I've been there like I've been like, "Okay, I'm letting the universe like bring me what I want." And like, "But this is what I want. (Joanna: Yes.) And I want it like right now." Yeah.Joanna Vargas  It's so, it's such like a whole other different realm. I'm going to call it of judgment because we are taught that judgment means to judge something in not a great light. Like I'm judging you that you're not pretty. Okay. But that's a judgment. But also saying somebody is pretty is a judgment, because all it means is that I am judging from my point of view of this is what I think. And so many times when we ask questions, we're asking it with judgment attached to it, we're asking left, right, it should be duo. And what if it's infinite? Like infinite, infinite, infinite. And I can feel it now, I'm aware of it Lesley, when I'm asking from left or right of, how does it get better, good or bad? As opposed to, how does it get better infinite and genuine curiosity? I was curious before but like, this is a whole new realm of curiosity.Lesley Logan  Well, let me think like, what I like about this also is that like, I think a lot of people could pigeonhole themselves. Like, I'm the this person, you're the question, girl. I'm the Be It girl, I like this. And it can make us feel like we can't explore and expand into other things. But there's another realm, as you mentioned, and I want to go back because you mentioned the good or bad, and how does it get any better than this? I mean, sometimes we have to take like it's going to be, it's going to feel like shit to get better. Like, we have to, we have to rip things away to, if you remove things from our life to get to the next thing, like I can think of like people who've had gone through divorce, but now they're with the best person ever. Like, if they hadn't had that then if they hadn't had that bad thing happened to them, they wouldn't be with the person that they're with now, or jobs, like losing a job that you loved, or a thing that you had. And then now you're in this next level, you wouldn't you can't have both. So I think it's, I think you're right. I think it's really easy for us to judge things as good or bad. And it's, and it can just be what it is, and that it's setting us up for the next thing. It's very interesting. There was a, there was a time, and Gretchen Rubin was sharing. I really wish I could remember the whole story, which episode it was, it was years ago, but I can remember myself driving down the street on sunset listening to the story. And the story went like, somebody's kid was supposed to go on a field trip, and they broke their arm. And someone goes, "Oh my God, I'm so sorry. She can't go. That sucks so much." Like, "Does it? How do we know it's bad?" And then, of course, on the camping trip that she missed, there was a car accident, some kids got hurt and like, "Oh, my God, and she's so glad that she wasn't there." It's like, I don't, I don't actually, how do we know that that was better that she wasn't there? Like this, this whole idea that we keep going, "Oh my God, thank goodness... that didn't happen to you." Or "Oh, that sucks that that happened to you." It's like, there's a reason why it's happening and it may not be bad or good. It could actually just be what it is.Joanna Vargas  Yeah, like going, I love that that you brought that up, Lesley because that's where I'm playing right now, is I'm training my body. Just like in Pilates, just like in fitness, we train our muscles, and we build them. So right now I'm building the muscle of light or heavy, light or heavy. So I'll ask my body. Let's say for example, I'm between two choices. We always have infinite choice. But what if you have two choices in your business you're like, "Do I go with this vendor? Or do I go with this vendor?" And you can go back and forth with pros and cons and research etc, etc. And what if you just ask, "Alright, truth if I go with this vendor will it create more for my life? Or will it create less for my life." And your body is going to give you like a light or heavy. Okay truth, if I go with this vendor is it going to create my life or not... or create less for my life? Yes, no. Yes, no. So I'm trying to work on just going yes, no. Yes, no. Give me a yes. Give me a no. Give me a yes. Give me a no. Because I'm re training myself and when I was a young girl of when I was taught, you don't know. You have to ask adults for the answer. We know everything for you. And I'm here to tell you, you know, you know, we have so much power for our lives, we know so much. But it's re training ourselves again to know. So I'll just ask, "If I go with this, will it create my future? If I go with them, will it decay my future?" And I'll just get a yes or no. And then what happens Lesley is all hear the little voice of like, "Yeah, but. Yeah, but." And the next question is, "Is that mine?" (Lesley: Mmmm) Different types of questions from the, "How does it get any better than this? Is that mine?" Because most of our thoughts, feelings and emotions they are not ours. We're picking up other people's stuff. All the time. Lesley Logan  You are, you couldn't be more correct on that. And it's because I think like I think even when I I want to change my schedule and Brad's like, "Oh my God." Aren't you worried about your clients, like not liking it. And I said, "No. I need to change my schedule. I can't do this schedule anymore." And I remember him saying that and I remember thinking another time, I need to change something and hit that question came up and it's not him. Like whatever that question was, was someone else's question that came through. Right. But like I remember going, "Oh, that's not mine. I actually don't worry when I changed my schedule." Like, I know that I will show it better if I do the schedule that feels good to me. And I think for people listening might be like, "How do I feel it's my body." I'll, I'll tell you a story and maybe you have a another way. Our friend Kareen Walsh, you know, Kareen. (Joanna: Yeah.) Yeah. So she, y'all, she was one of the episodes I don't remember probably in the tens. But she, I was out with her in Scottsdale, and I was drinking my AG 1. They don't sponsor the show, but I was drinking it. And she's like, "Oh, I've always wanted to try that but I was afraid like, I don't know, if my like how will feel in my body." So I gave her my bottle of of it and she held it and she closed her eyes. And she just let her body like lean into it or away from it. And she's like, "Oh, I think my body will like that." And so, in that moment, I was like, "Oh, that is..." She is listening to her body in that moment. She is feeling what it feels like. And I think a lot of us try to answer the question up here in our head, just like you were saying, and, and to actually be the question, to feel the question to go inward. You're correct. A lot of us have all the answers we need inside of us even if the answer is go ask so and so.Joanna Vargas  Yes, yes. Yeah. It's just just like that movie. What is it? When she has the red shoes. What is it? Wi...Lesley Logan  Oh, The Wizard of Oz. Yeah.Joanna Vargas  At the end of the movie. She says you've always had the you've always, whatever the fairy (Lesley: Yeah.) godmother says, (Lesley: Yeah.) you've always had the answers, you've always known the wayLesley Logan  You've always had the way to get home, already.Joanna Vargas  ... For each and every one of us. You know, I do want to tell a story. I was in Arizona talking about Scottsdale, Lindsey Swartz, shout out to our girl Lindsey. And it was a great event. And I was at the VIP party the night before. And I've been playing with this next question. It's my favorite right now as we speak in real time, and it's universe show me what my reality. What's my reality? Show me my reality. What's my reality? Because right now I have so many thoughts, feelings and emotions coming at me front left, you know all of us that say, "Oh, that little voice that says this." Is that your voice, is that somebody else's voice. It's not your voice. But we are taught that it's our voice. And we're listening to ourselves. So I'm like, "That's not my voice." So where I am right now, Lesley is like, there's so much in my head. I don't even know what's mine anymore. I can't see. It's like, I'm in this hoarder's house and there's just books and crap everywhere. And I'm like, "I can't even see my house right now. So show me what my house is. Show me what my reality is." So I'm at her VIP event. It's Friday, the night before. There's about 200 women there. We're all in our PJs. It's like this PJ girls night out. And I walk in, and I hear a DJ playing music and you know me, I love music. And I'm like, "What?" So I start to walk over to the DJ, and I see this DJ playing music and nobody's dancing. Right. And she's playing like Beyonce, and like Bad Bunny. I mean, just all like the fun jams. And there's about 10 other booths there, you could take photos, you can get your hair curled, you can get your nails done, like all kinds of Pajama party type things ...Lesley Logan  So fun. I want to go to that VIP party.Joanna Vargas  So fun. And I start dancing. Everybody is in line to do the nails, to do the hair. I start dancing, and I'm all by myself dancing. I get there at 6:30 and the party is for two hours until 8:30. And I'm dancing out there. And then all of a sudden I get that ... feeling you know that like ... Everybody's looking at me. Oh my gosh. Okay, what am I going to keep dancing? Am I going to keep being this weirdo out here all by myself. And the thing is, this DJ was so happy that I was dancing to her music because she's an artist and she's like, "Gosh, finally somebody's I'm here for all of you. But all of you are all out, you know, getting your nails done and things like that." (Lesley: Yeah.) So I kept asking for two hours Lesley, I kept checking in, "Universe show me my reality. Show me my reality. Because right now I want to get off the dance floor because I feel like everybody's looking at me." One out of 200 girls is dancing, right? And I kept getting, Joanna dance. This is your reality. Your reality is you don't care if everybody's looking at you. You don't care if people are videotaping you. That's your reality. Now, when you get embarrassed, if you feel like everybody's looking at you, thinking that you're drunk, like I thought, "Oh my God, everybody's think I'm drunk." Like I'm that drunk girl dancing all night. Right. And I'm like, can I receive the judgment? And I kept getting, yes. So I kept asking, show me my reality. And I kept getting, dance dance. So I danced Lesley, no joke from 6:30 to 8:30. I did not stop once. I was that crazy girl that dance two hours. I was totally sweating. I never went to any other of the booths. Now I'm telling the story because I was so aware that more women wanted to dance. I was aware of it that they wanted to, like they were passing me and going, "Oh my gosh, you look like you having so much fun." And I would grab their hand like, "Come dance with me." And they're like, "No." It wasn't their reality. It's I know, as young children as two three year olds, we're bouncing up in our diapers. It's like, you see little kids and they're on Instagram, little videos, they are on (Lesley: Yeah.) TikTok videos and parents are like, "Oh my God, they're so cute." But something happens because we buy other people's thoughts, feelings and emotions of, "Oh my God, I'm embarrassed. What are people gonna think? I don't know how to dance." Story after story after story. And I kept going through that same story, as I'm on the dance floor. "Oh, my gosh, I'm going to be in so many photos." I mean, all this stuff of these voices. And I'm like, "This is not my reality. Show me my reality." And my reality was not going to get my nails done. My reality was not going to curl my ... I'm like, "I can curl my hair anytime. I have a curling iron. I got my nails done."Lesley Logan  Yeah. I'm not gonna curl my hair before I go to bed.Joanna Vargas  Yeah. I'm like, "So is this, what is it Joanna? What is it really?" As I'm dancing on, as I'm being the question, the energy of the question, and I just kept getting, keep dancing, keep dancing. I'm like, Okay, keep dancing. Be the invitation for people. And at the end of those two hours, one of the girls that I know, she came up to me, and she was like, she hasn't seen me in a year, two years since the pandemic. She's like, "Joanna, oh, my gosh, I haven't seen you." She's like, "I want you to come and be my host of my event." And it's this Saturday as we speak. So do you see what was created from me dancing like a crazy person? I mean, in this reality, I was the crazy person. But you get what I mean, (Lesley: Yeah.) like you that I was totally sober. I was out there, sweating crazy. But my reality was, "Joanna, keep choosing this, keep choosing this, keep choosing this because something great is out there." And I kept asking, "How does it get better? What else is possible?" Along with all the other questions, and boom, and I know there's something there. I don't know what it is yet. I don't want to make a conclusion, Lesley, like, "Oh, my God, I'm going to I'm doing this event. And this is the rest of my life." I just know something is going to be created. I could feel it, I could get the (Lesley: Yeah.) goosebumps, right from this event. And I'm speaking there this Saturday, and I'm so freaking excited. I'm going to be on the mic hosting a large entrepreneur event from (Lesley: It's insane.) a question that I kept asking. So this is what can be created. Now Lesley, if I would have written down a million gazillion trillion possibilities that could have happened, I would have never written down, I'm going to be hosting an event from ...Lesley Logan  Right, right. No. And so I love this, because I think a lot of people like okay, I just need to meet this person. And then they'll invite me to this area. I network with this person and it's like, you, you were at a networking event. So yes, you do need to be put in the room. But you don't actually have to, like, "What am I going to say? How do I get them to do this?" You just have to be yourself, you have to be in, you have to listen to what your what you're being called to do. And it might be in your instance, it was to dance the whole time and just have a really good time being yourself. And for others, it could be like literally just introducing yourself to the person that you're so scared to say hi to, like, just say hi to them. And like, you know, but listening to your body. And I think that's really cool that you just kept checking in with yourself. I don't think people know how to do that as often. I think it's very it was is it when you started doing this? Was it really comfortable to ask yourself these questions? Or was it like uncomfortable like, "This is weird, I'm talking to myself a lot."Joanna Vargas  It was really uncomfortable because this is a new tool that I'm using is, universal, show me my reality. So this is the first time that I actually was that tool for two hours straight. I've been using it like here and there. I have an alarm that goes up on my phone to kind of remind myself, but this is the first time and I totally know what you're saying, Lesley, because I'm not saying that everybody needs to dance. What I'm saying is to check in, "What's my reality?" Maybe your reality is getting your hair done, when you wouldn't normally get your hair done. Or maybe your reality is leaving earlier. Maybe your reality is talking to the person next to you, you know, and so I also use that tool because I went early to the event, and I didn't know anybody. And I could feel that I was shrinking Lesley, like standing in the corner. Like I don't know anybody. And I kept asking, show me my reality. And what I got Lesley was, "walk up to these girls". Okay, so I walked up to three girls talking, and I would just insert myself in the conversation. That's not highly like me. But it is though. It is me. It is my reality.Lesley Logan  ... feels like you though, that feels like the Joanna I know. But I understand, well, I understand after a couple of years of not being around people, a couple of years of not doing the things that you normally do. It's not like, and also in a lot of things we change, especially in the last couple of years. I've changed a lot of ways and I also didn't change in a lot of ways. But I can see how like outside of that consistent environment of going up to people. And then finally going like, "Is this what I do? I do do this. Oh, I did ..." Like you know what I mean? And then you just didn't and you're like, this is not me. You're like actually this is me because this feels really good while I'm doing this right now.Joanna Vargas  Yeah. Actually, this is me, but I was going into the other thoughts I've heard the, "Oh, you don't know them. They're already talking. It's going to be rude to jump in." Like all that stuff in my head. I'm like, I just inserted myself like a five year old on a playground in kindergarten, (Lesley: Yeah.) "Hi, do you want to be my friend?" It was just like that. And (Lesley: Yeah.) I walked up and I was like, "Oh, I'm gonna get a drink. Does anybody want to go with me?" And again, I probably would have just talked and see if they were going to ask me to go for a drink. But for me to be the ins... that's not my default, so to speak, I'll do it. But ... (Lesley: Yeah.) my default, and but I kept checking in and one of the girls was like, "Yeah, let's go get a drink." So went over there had a drink with her. But what was created, it just kept going from A, B, C, and it just kept going, going from probably, I pro... what I wanted to do what felt comfortable Lesley was to sit on one of the couches there at the hotel and check my phone, that felt comfortable. I had to check my email, I gotta check. You know, I couldn't use that as an excuse, as a as a reason that I am not talking to people.Lesley Logan  That is ... and also like, what if you, what like just going back to something where you're like, "That's not really who I am. So I don't know what I normally do." But what if that is who you are you just haven't been doing that?Joanna Vargas  Yes. Because that's like, show me my it's like the hoarder house again, I know where I live, I just can't see it right now. I know who I am. I am that person that just walks up to people and "Hi." But I can't see it right now because all the other stuff in my head all the cobwebs of these voices and things and like, "It's not mine. It's not mine. Joanna, there's 200 women in here that all feel nervous. So you're picking up their nervousness, too. It's not yours."Lesley Logan  Oh, yeah. No, it also I'm just so grateful that you're here because I think you're in, we're always in process, you know, and it's easy for me to bring on guests and for people to share their strengths. And share what they're going in, like, they sound like they have it all together. And for and then certain compartments, they have it all together and certain compartments. I have most of it together. You know, but I also think that like, when, like, there is a process. So for example, I used to do a morning pep talk on my Instagram stories every morning. Like I probably did it for a year, every morning, rarely missed, just like reminding people something. And then one morning, I was just like, "I just don't want to do it today, ... don't want to do today." And then I was like, "Let's do it tomorrow." And then I like the ... I was just like, "I'm not doing that." And then all of a sudden, I was like, "When was the last time I fucking did that?" Like, I just forgot that. And then I was like, "Oh, I wonder I wonder if I should do that again." And I just was like, "Hey, guys, I haven't done this in a while. I don't really want to do it right now. I'm going to do it a different time. Because I'm just feeling into like what I want my new morning to be." And my new morning is very much asking myself every day like, because I like to get my Pilates every day. I like to get my meditation in at some point every day. And I was trying to always fit it in the morning. And now I'm like, actually, I could probably fit in things drift in different times of the day. So what if I just asked myself this morning, this morning, "Okay, I don't have another meeting till this time. I want to get these things in. I'm gonna do them right now. I'm gonna do this right now." And so I'm like, I'll just check, I'm gonna give him their pep talks a different times a day, and it's gonna be okay. It's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be find and no one has ever said, "You bitch. You used to be my morning pep talk." They didn't say that. But like, the stories we can tell ourselves like, "I have to do it because I've always done it." And it's like, yeah, if people are have a membership that you've, they've paid you for, you should probably keep doing what they paid for, until you can like, exit that out. But other things we can change the morning things that we do, we can change the that we maybe you were the sourdough person in your neighborhood and you're not anymore. And that's, it's okay. And I know we tell ourselves, "Oh my God, I'm a lot of these people down. And this this." Actually, they'll get sourdough from someone else. (Lesley laughs)Joanna Vargas  I'm laughing because it's so light. That is so true in my world. I did this morning, 30 day challenge for 10 months, and I was going to do it for one year straight. And it was I really loved those 10 months. They were so much fun. And one day I just the next month started I'm like, "I don't want to do it." It was so much like a five year old kid, like, "I don't want to do soccer anymore, Mom. I don't want to dance." You know, when they come home and they're like, "I'm done." And the mom's like, "What? I just paid for?" And I'm like, "I just don't want to do it. I'm just done." And I might go back to it and I may not. And I'm still there with you, Lesley of the eye, it worked for me at that time. And I'm not saying that I may not go who knows what else is possible, I wonder. But as of right now, I'm choosing as I go kind of like minute by minute. I don't it's (Lesley: Yeah.) not as rigid anymore.Lesley Logan  Joanna I love that. And I also think like when was that wrong to not be a five year old whose was like, "Oh, I don't want to do that right now." Like when did we feel like we... I mean I I understand y'all have to go to fucking work and you don't want to go to work. Okay, like we have jobs, okay. But when it comes to certain things, we put a lot of pressure on ourselves around, especially like the timeline of things like we'll have a lot of listeners who like trying to put something together. There's a lot of pressure around, launching it, getting it going, getting it out there. And it's like, yeah, you got to make some money. So we got to figure this out. But it's okay if you're like, you know, this was a goal of mine and I don't want to do it anymore.Joanna Vargas  Yeah, I do want to tap on something that has changed my life. And it's the term, choice creates awareness. And what we were taught that awareness creates choice. So I'm gonna explain it this way. Kids make a choice, then they discover that they may or may not like it, and that they have awareness. Then they go, "Oh, I don't want to do it any more because I did it. Tried it. I don't like it, or I just don't like it anymore right now." But we were taught from adults that it's no awareness creates choice, for example, you're supposed to know that's why you're supposed to research pros and cons everything before. And then once you have the answer, which I've talked about answer or just limited possibilities, then you make a choice. And I'm actually here to say it's actually backwards. It's the way five year olds do it. Make a choice. And the difference also, Lesley is we've misconstrued the word choice with decision. And decision means till death do you part forever and ever. I have to do this morning inspiration and I'm doing on my Instagram forever, kind of that feeling. (Lesley: Yeah.) And that's where we have the, what are you going to major in and high college? Who you going to marry? What do you get? It's like, forever these decisions and choices only good for a small amount of seconds. Lesley Logan  Yeah, like I'm choosing to have lunch today at two o'clock. And like, you know, like, it's and I and I can go oh, can become aware. Actually, I really enjoy lunch at this time. That's fucking amazing. (Joanna: Yeah, you might go ...) or no, never doing that again, that was too late for me.Joanna Vargas  You might say, I'm gonna have ... okay, it's 1:30. And you might say, I'm gonna have lunch at two o'clock. And once you say out loud, I'm gonna have lunch at two o'clock. That's choice, and then you might, no actually I want to do it at 2:30. And are you willing, though, for the people around you to call you flighty though? But in this reality, it's called flighty, if you change your mind. And I train my employees that work with me, I'm like, look, I run my business on choice and awareness. I don't run it on decisions and conclusions. So if you're a conclusion girl where you need everything, like cement before, this is probably not going to be a great working relationship, because I do in this reality changed my mind a lot. And it's because I make choices than I have more awareness. I make a choice and I have more awareness. I make a choice that I'll have more awareness. From Monday to Friday, the thing looks completely different because I keep having more awareness.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Well, and also, because, first of all, I think what's interesting here, though, is everything we do, we can guesstimate what the outcome is going to be. Right. Like I'm with, I'm like, "Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to make these flashcards and we're going to sell this many," and those are like guesstimations. Because I, you know, have to have some sort of plan, right? And then the cards get made, I put them out there, and I get feedback on those things. If I don't listen to that feedback, if I don't look at how people are talking about them, how they're using them, how they're playing with them. And I only keep selling them the way I had planned. I could either, I could ... I'll most likely miss out on so much possibility. And so is I hate that it's flighty, because it's more to me, like you're reading the room, and you're taking in the information and you're making another choice, taking the information and making another choice. And the reality is, is like none of us are psychic. So you can have a great idea. And if you all if you're like this is the plan I created in cement, and I'm just going to keep going. You could miss out on an amazing journey. And like the actual thing working out like a lot of things I think don't work out because people don't make another choice to change direction or make a left turn over here. Add this thing in over here. Am I making sense? That makes sense?Joanna Vargas  Totally makes sense. Because what I'm getting from that is like, I made this choice, it's not working, so now I'm wrong. I made the wrong choice. And you can't make a wrong choice. Like you just can't, I'm here to tell you but you can't make a wrong choice because that goes back to the judgment of "this is wrong, this is right". Because what if making those cards you're asking the questions, "How does it get better yet any better? I wonder what these cards are going to create for people. I wonder what these cards are going to create for my business." And you put the cards out and they're not that great or there's misspellings or whatever. But I wonder by putting those cards out what if something was created from there that doesn't have to be about the cards. What it is something else? What about putting those cards out there Joe Blow sees it, Joe Blow calls you and says I would like to do X Y Z with you that has nothing to do with Pilates. But because these cards were a failure or they're wrong, but it created something because you got the awareness to put these cards out there. (Lesley: Yeah.) And that's where I want to flip it. What if (Lesley: Yeah.) everything is the opposite like the matrix ... (Lesley laughs) the cards. You knowLesley Logan  Oh, my God you're speaking Brad's ... language now. Yeah, I I'm really I'm really intrigued by this. And I think, I think every single person listening to be it till you see it, to have what you want. You can not think like, it's Humble the Poet, we are not concrete, we are constructs. And so we, in order for you to continue to grow, you have to be paying attention like, "Oh, oh, I made this choice. Oh, okay, that's interesting that happened. Okay, I'll make this choice because of that. Okay, I'll just this do this." And so instead of going, "Nope, I said, I was going to do it on this date, it's going to happen," like you do live events. Like, if there is a fire the day before morning, the day before your race, you're not gonna be like, "Well, we said the run was today, everyone paid for today." No, their fucking health is not gonna be able to run today, they're gonna have to run next week when the fire is out. And like everyone just had, that's how we had to all do it during the pandemic. And we somehow got so tired of everything, pivoting all the time that we're like, everything has to happen when it says, everything has to happen when we set because we have to just like, you know what I mean?Joanna Vargas  Yeah, oh, because like, I want to talk about business if there's, I think (Lesley: Yeah.) there's a lot of business owners, right that listening ... (Lesley: Yeah.) podcast. I'm going to give this example, I'm producing these events this past summer, and I produced four of them. And they were parties, they were like 90s parties, 80s parties. And it felt very heavy. It didn't feel like it was the right time yet to make the the itinerary for the event. Now my team's like, "Joanna, the events this Friday. What's the itinerary?" And I'm like, "Just be with me right now because I'm going to make one choice." And I said, "The choice right now is I'm going to call, you know, Greg Smith, and I'm going to let me talk to Greg Smith, and I'll call you back." They're like, "Okay." Because I just needed to make one small choice. So it talked to Greg Smith on the phone, I got more awareness. And then that led me to the next thing, to the next person to call. And then that choice ment, led me to more awareness. And I kept changing the awareness. And even to the day before Lesley, I changed the whole itinerary. And I gotta tell you, that event was the most fun event, everybody that left there was like, "That was the best event ever." And I kept asking, and I kept getting curious. But if I would have stayed with the same itinerary that was on the copy of the Facebook event, from Monday until Friday, I don't think we would have had the same party. And again, (Lesely: Yeah.) it goes back to are you willing to be the person that people are like, "Oh, gosh, Joanna keeps changing her mind." I think that's the biggest question. Are you willing to be that different? Because if (Lesley: Yeah.) you're not, then you're going to stick with that plan. And it might be so much juicier or and then you DM me on Instagram and go, "Joanna, these questions aren't working." And I'm like, "Yeah, but are you really being the question? You're asking the question, but then yet you're still making decisions and not making choice and following the awareness."Lesley Logan  Do you remember the magic eight balls? (Joanna: Yeah.) You're like, ask her a question and then like, you were like, you were like telling it what answer to give you. Right. Like you're like, and I went to give you not the answer. And you're like, (Joanna: Yep.) shake it again until you got the answer. And like, that's what I'm hearing you say. And I think the other thing that I'm hearing you say is like, choice is actually just a different word for like, taking action. And action brings clarity, and action is the antidote to fear. And so if you're like, these choice things is confusing. It's like, all she's saying is take one action, and then see what you find out from that action, and then take another step. And then another step. And so instead of trying to, I think what also with decisions, people are trying to plan out all the steps to the journey, they're like trying to make the roadmap to go from here to wherever they're trying to grow in their business or in their life. It's like those girls in college who like wrote down their entire like itinerary of a husband and I was like, "Good luck with that. That list is long." You know, but like before they ever dated it's like you've ever dated, you even know if you like this about someone, you've never even gone on a date. So go on a date and see if you actually like person who you know orders my dinner for me just feel that out first. So I think like the differences like perfection is like, I'm gonna make this decision and it's gonna go this way and you're saying, you're, the way you're being it, the way you're being the question is like, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna work on taking action getting clarity, taking action, getting clarity, and it will it will become what it is because I'm being at right now in the moment. I mean, this can, doesn't get more how's it get better than this? Because this is so be it till you see it.Joanna Vargas  How does it get better? Yeah. And you know what, I love that and I'm just, I'm being called to throw this in there because it is action, it is taking action. And there's something about the word choice that rings for me, if it rings true for you, please take it if, if the word action rings true, great. Like, for me the word choice just rings different for me. (Lesley: It's empowering.) Yeah, it's a little different than, like, take action. Now, whatever works for you, please choose it. I like the word choice, like, "Oh, I got choice. I'm gonna make a choice. I'm gonna make a choice." And when I change my diction, that way, something changes. And it helps me know that I know. And so I just wanted to throw that out there.Lesley Logan  I also just think you need a new sticker. It's like got choices. You know, like the got milk ... (Joanna: You got a choice.) that choices. (Joanna: Yeah.) Yeah. (Joanna: Yes.) Oh, my gosh, Joanna, this is amazing. We're going to take a brief break and find out how people can find you, follow you, be the question with you.Joanna Vargas  Yep, please follow me on Instagram @joannavargasofficial, you can also go to joannavargas.co, .co and I have my own podcast as well. It's called The Get Up Girl. And I always talk about this kind of stuff if you want different tricks, different tools that you've already heard the other stuff and you're like, "I'm still hitting a wall." That's what that shows for.Lesley Logan  Yeah, you're y'all have to listen to The Get Up Girl. So fun. Just hit subscribe a lot of pop up on your in your feed just like you like to be a pot. And, and I you always have amazing conversations and unique outlooks. And I think it gives so many, it gives so much permission for people to not have the answer. You know, so yeah. Okay, you know, because you're here from the first, the first episode, bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted action steps, targeted choices, people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Joanna Vargas  Ah, all right, this is one of my faves. Make the demand of you and ask the universe. Because many times, Lesley, we get it backwards. We make the demand of the universe. And then we ask ourselves, and that's I know, that's also taking action, make the demand of yourself. There's this like energetic shift when you make the demand, like, I'm going to make the demand of Joanna and make a choice. And then ask life universe. And when that happens, they work together. And things are able to be created in your life. So if you want to be it, make the demand of you. And that's a whole other show right there. Because we could talk about that for a while. But if that rings true for you throw that on your phone as a reminder and say, "I make the demand of me today and choose for me."Lesley Logan  Yeah, yeah, it's another way to prioritize ourselves first. Yeah. I love that. I love you so much. Thank you for being here. Everyone, how are you going to use what Joanna shared with in your life? How are you, how are you going to make choices? How are you going to get more clarity? How are you going to be the person who's willing to change their mind? I want to know, Joanna's gonna want to know. Make sure you tag Joanna, tag the @be_it_pod. Share this with a friend who is maybe stuck in a lot of decisions and and choices. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Joanna Vargas  Thank you.Lesley Logan  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. 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Get to know your co-host, Brad Crowell on this week's special solo episode as Brad recounts his journey through music, working in the tech world, and his experiences with start up companies that has led him to be a CEO.  If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Speak it while you do itThe mindset shift for a new role There is a time to put your head down and workGive yourself a timeline, evaluate, and readjust Being it starts with a decision  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:07  Hello. Alright, let's get a temp check in here. Get a levels. Yeah, we're sounding good. We're looking good. We're sounding good. All right. Hey everybody, Brad here, doing my first solo episode on the Be It Till You See It podcast. Stepping in for Lesley today and I'm really excited to be here. Been thinking a lot about how I have been 'being it' in my life. And I wanted to share with you a little bit of a backstory on ...Something is wrong.Testing, there it is. Okay, just pick it back up. So you can cut that part out. I just want to share a little bit of backstory with you on my path to becoming a CEO, and all of the messy action that I took to get here. And I just want to qualify that and say, here is relative because I still feel like I'm growing and learning. And, you know, I haven't had all the mile markers in my head that like, actually, that's self doubt, right? That justify me calling me CEO. It's weird to say, "Yeah, I'm the CEO." It sometimes it doesn't feel right still. So anyway, I'm very excited to think back through this stuff. It's fun to reminisce. But I will keep it brief. So basically, when I think my path to CEO started, when way back when, you know, I was born in, no, totally kidding, just kidding. We're not going that far back. I lived in LA for a really long time. And while I was in LA, I was doing music. And basically, the goal was to become super famous, tour the world with my band, and be doing the the music thing for the rest of my life. That's all I wanted to do. Since I don't know I guess, middle school, high school, I thought that'd be pretty cool. After being a super famous soccer star, was not physically possible for me, because I was a tiny little kid, the band thing seemed to make sense. Plus, I fit in and I loved it. And I'm good at that stuff. So when I got to LA, in order to get paid, I ended up working for a startup company. And you've probably heard me mentioned that before. And I won't really go into the specifics of that. But it was a great opportunity for me to meet people, to learn a little bit about like how you work in a company, because I've never done that I've only worked for like retail, or in restaurants before that. And I hadn't like been in a corporate environment before. And it wasn't really corporate, it was very startup, you know, style. And basically, the whole idea was tech, social networking stuff. And that company failed after two years and that was devastating. Really, really, really devastating. I had a lot of trust in the people who are leading the team, and we had a great team. And we ultimately spent two years making a lot of really cool little things that never really took off. And that was a shame. But from that I learned, I learned a lot about hard work and, you know, being on time and all those kinds of things. I got hired into another company. And that company was cool. I had a chance to run a blog. And the blog was actually being handled by a bunch of interns. So I brought in a bunch of interns to do the writing. And I had basically to teach them, I was the first time really truly leading a team. And we had all these different bloggers all over the country. And then basically, that company fired me (Brad laughs) after like a year and change, right. The CEO will took some very dramatic measures. He let go the entire marketing team, including the blog department, and they went like 100% the advertising route and they just cut out any organic reach, any social anything, they let go of me and two other people that we were all working together. And that was, I kind of saw the writing on the wall. So it wasn't really as devastating when that happened. But that company was very corporate, right. The people I worked for what used to run major companies, big companies, you know, they, they had very corporate expectations, I learned all that kind of stuff from them. And, and then I actually basically didn't work for like a solid year. And I spent my time working one night a week at a restaurant and living, living very, very frugally.But dedicating all of my time towards music. Every single day, I was working on music, and it was probably, even though I had no money at all, it was one of my favorite times, because I was living with some friends. And I was also working diligently on music, that's when I started touring, and being very intentional towards growing that. And then I got a phone call, after a solid year of basically putting myself in debt, I got a phone call from some of the people I used to work with. And they hired me to work on another project. And that was great, because it, actually, I was really hesitant to go back and work for a startup company, because I loved what I was doing, even though it was making no money. But it was complicated. And I got a dog and I decided I needed to actually get paid consistently. So that was the first time I worked for the company that I then spent the bulk of my career at. And that was a startup company. That was more of like a startup house, we had a lot of projects going all the time. And I will spare you the details of that. Because we had so many projects over the years that worked for them for six years, six years, seven years, something like that. And along the way, there was a larger company there was like, I think 80 people, and I was kind of part of different teams, and shifted through to do different roles. And then at the end of it, by the end of it, I was the general manager, and my job was really to poke my head into the different projects and make sure that they weren't, you know, losing too much money. I jokingly like to say, but really just it was about how can I help out, you know, with all of the crazy random experiences of different hats I've worn over the years at this point. So like, at this point, it was probably like, almost 10 years in startup companies, right? And from account management, from marketing to being the middleman internally between the CEO and design and dev are so many different roles. And but that company was the first time that I actually, there was a shift in my thinking in that company. Because it was the first time I thought to myself like, "Hmm, that's not how I would do it." And that was a surprising thought to me. Because before it was like, well, someone's telling me what to do, and I'm just gonna go do my job. And it was it was the first time I thought like, "Huh, if I had the bank role that these guys have, I would do things differently." And this is how I would do them. And I really started to analyze how to to get, how I would have done things differently, and why would I have done things differently. And, you know, I used to say someone gave me a million dollars, I would know exactly what to do with it. And that was that was an interesting turning point, I think and that's kind of what really led me down this path of being my own boss. Now, I never thought I'd be a CEO because that wasn't even on the radar just knew that I would leave, eventually I would work for myself, I would have my own company. And I would do something, right. And ultimately, that decision came when I had a really challenging transition internally. When I project that worked on for a number of years, actually sold to another company and I was expecting to transition with the company to this new ownership and and I ended up instead staying at the company I was with and that was I had a really hard time with that because for six months to a year I was like working diligently to get the company ready to sell. And I knew I was gonna go run the company over there be second, you know, I was I wasn't gonna be the CEO, I was gonna be the COO and that's not how it ended up happening. And that was really really really difficult but that's really what made me realize I need to, I need to move out on my own. I need to do my own thing.And when I finally did that, the the first thing I did I had started while I was working for the, for that company. I had a friend of mine of a longtime friend of mine had started a web development company. And I was always very nerdy with websites, I've been doing them for the bands that I was in and my friends, and just like constantly fascinated by WordPress and technology stuff. And so I ended up joining his company that he had started. And he and I became partners. And it was a lot of fun. We worked together on nights and weekends for many years. And and that was kind of always happening in the background, because I was doing my job during the day. And then at night, I would noodle around on websites, or I would do some sales calls and emails and whatever. And we were building websites. So when I left the role, the job that I was in, it became the obvious first step was, let's, let's work together more closely. Let's see if we can grow this thing. Let's see if we can make this thing make enough money to pay both of us. Instead of just like a side income, it was like how can we make this a primary income. And it was, at the same time that I had a couple of other friends had approached me to do some other things. And one of them asked me if I wanted to help do product development on a small company. And so I said, "Sure." And then a third friend and I had been doing live streaming for a company that are for a TV show that we've been working on. So I ended up leaving that role and immediately starting three companies at the same time, or growing one company that had already been started and then starting two other companies as well. And so I was very split. And then in the meantime, I was also helping Lesley at night. And it was a it was a crazy couple of years, where two two solid years where ultimately, I really, I was able to pay my bills, and like, you know, get enough money to eat, and stuff like that. But it was not actually a real growing opportunities were they weren't like actually turning into what we had all hoped they would turning into. And that was that was really frustrating was really a shame because I was actually working with my friends who I love dearly. All three of them were some of my closest friends and, you know, at the time and and, and then became this like realization that like, "Something isn't working here," we're spinning our wheels, we're not actually growing. And it's not like that putting food on the table, let alone becoming a company where we could like grow a team and build a team. And at that time was when a, Lesley joined a Mastermind group with a power couple, Chris and Laurie Harder. And she told me she really really, really, really, really wanted me to come join. And I was very hesitant to do to do so because it was expensive. And I was very I didn't have I didn't have any extra cash. And so my money mindset was not helping any any of my businesses and it certainly wasn't helping me grow and but she convinced me to do it anyway. And I'm so glad I did because I was paired up with a coach, a one on one coach. And he basically told me like, "Hey, man, all this stuff you're doing with these three companies, you should stop. And you should, you should actually throw, throw in all, you know, throw your weight in behind Lesley, and you should work with her." And I I, that was so appealing to me. But I was really really worried about burdening her her budding company with my salary, you know, because I knew I had to make X amount of dollars per month. And I also been in so many positions where I've seen too much strain, financial strain on a company out of the gate actually crushed the company and nothing happened. And I was really really worried that if I let go of these the side incomes that I had that weren't growing the way that we had all hoped that suddenly I would also, I could also sink what she had been working on and coach basically said, "You know, you're gonna make enough money, you just have to do it." And it took me a little bit to make the decision. But as soon as I made the decision, I started slowing down the work when those three companies, one of them I was able to step away from very quickly, another one we had a bunch of gigs still that we had to complete, and then the last one took literally a year to actually shut down and extricate and all this stuff because it was it was pretty complicated. And the but I'd started putting my operational experience in behind Lesley and really what working on her websites and changing the way that the flow in the company had worked and the the switch to CEO didn't actually happen right away. I was ops, she was the owner of the company, it was her company she started, right. So she was the CEO by I guess, default, I don't know, it was a small team, it was us. And like two other people. And so there's four of us. And I don't know, the concept of CEO wasn't really a thing.And also, I was very, you know, happy with her, making the decisions and doing what she was doing. And I would just execute, because execution is kind of like my sweet spot. It's where I feel comfortable. It's my, where all my strengths are. And the operational execution side of things, is, it's home for me, right. And funny enough, though, that wasn't where I, I saw myself, in my own mind, even though that was where my strengths were, are, are, and what I'm good at, in my head, I was like, "You know, what, I see myself making the decisions and, you know, leading the team and building relationships with other companies." And, you know, and being that that role, and Lesley had also basically said, like, "I hate being in meetings. I hate doing all this stuff. I don't want to make these kinds of decisions. I'm a visionary. I want to conceptualize what the product is, and then bring it to the team." And, you know, we they can build a to build that stuff. And we had been, we didn't come to that realization, quickly or easily, we were working with another coach, Kareen Walsh, and she had said, you know, she had put us through a couple of exercises. And after the exercises were over. She she started laughing when she was looking at what we had drawn out, and what how he described ourselves, and she said, "You two are in the wrong roles." And we said, "Well, what does that mean?" She said, "Well, he's the CEO, and you're the you're the Chief Product Officer, you know, you're the visionary or whatever." And suddenly, it was like, "oh, duh, that totally makes sense." And, you know, so when we got home, we, you know, nothing formally changed, except for, we just started calling ourselves a different things. But I think mentally, it really did change. You know, it put me in a position to think like, "Wow, I if I'm going to be the boss, you know, what does that mean? How do I show up?" And it really did shift my mindset on being more present, and, you know, connecting with the team and thinking like a leader and learning a lot about that kind of stuff. And, you know, so, so, that's kind of the path that took me, you know, that, that I took, I guess, to become CEO, and, you know, obviously, there's a lot of, it wasn't linear by any means. It wasn't like, "Okay, and then I wrote, climbed the corporate ladder, and now I'm the boss." And I, I have a feeling that it's never linear, it's very rarely rarely, that you start at the bottom and you you become the boss. You know, so I don't know that it's necessarily replicable. However, looking at that, and thinking, what are the messy action? Like, what are the steps I took? How was I 'being it' while that was happening? You know, I think that's kind of something that can be replicable, replicated by, you know, it's something that you can take away from my experiences, and, you know, the things that the things that I was doing to be it when I was, you know, before I even started in tech, when I was in the band, you know, I saw myself touring, I saw myself recording for others, writing being in a band. And even though I, you know, I had no money and no, like, you know, I had a little bit of a network when I moved to Los Angeles because of my school, but I would go out all the time, and I would meet people, and I would intentionally, I would introduce myself as, "Oh, yeah, I'm a musician. I'm a bass player. I am a singer. I'm a writer." You know, and I was, I was speaking it, while doing it, even though I wasn't making a money doing it, but that's what I was out there to do. Right. And when I got into startup company, you know, the, the first thing that these guys asked me was like, "You know, have you ever done marketing?" And I was like, "Hell yeah, I've done marketing." You know, I've marketed myself and my bands since I was a teenager to get people to show up to a club and me play show for them. Right? And they, they were like, "Yeah, okay, that's," you know, but like, in a corporate environment, I had never done that before, you know, so this was new to me, but I was like, "I know how to do this, I'm gonna figure it out."And, you know, so then I, when I got into those companies, though, wasn't anybody telling me, this is how you become an account manager, there was no real training, because in a startup company, you're kind of making it up as you go along. You know, so I would go read blogs and books. You know, when I stepped into the role of COO of a skin and haircare brand. The first thing I did for like, weeks was like, "What does the COO do? How does the COO operate?" You know, and I would then just start to make decisions and implement that stuff, as it was, as you know, we were all working together. And even though I, I did feel like I'm just a, I'm just an operations guy on COO, you know, stepping into that role, you, it's the same thing, as I was talking about what being a CEO. When I stepped in the role of CEO, it changes the way you show up for yourself, right. And that I think, is important, you know, there's like, I think, over the years, I've seen moments in my life, where, where I know, okay, from this point forward, at least for a short window, it's, it's crunch time, or it's go time, right, like, it's time to be buckled down and really kick ass, and it's going to be three solid months of like, you know, intense work, and then I'm going to have a breather. And those kinds of moments are real, they really shape you, because you are making a real decision that you wake up with, and you go and you do the thing. And then you know, you get the chance, at the end of that, that window of time to look back and go, did I do what I needed to do. And when you, when you do that, it really does have a, like, a lifelong effect on you in a way that gives you that confidence, suddenly, you are you know, you can do it. Right. You know that, if you need to, when you need to, you can buckle down and get it done whatever it might be. And that could be you know, opening a Pilates studio, or it could be raising a kid, I mean, maybe you have an 18 year sprint, you know, for that, and I don't envy any of you doing that. But it could be you know, getting a puppy and learning how to train a dog, you know, it could take 6 to 12 months of consistency to in order to you know, get the dog where they are listening to you whatever. It could be training a new person on your team or, or hiring a teacher. And you have to like show them the ropes and "Okay, for the next two months. I'm gonna like every day diligently work with this person." And when you're done that, even though you never called yourself a trainer before, now you you've been doing it, you're you've been being it until afterwards. Now you're you are it and you see yourself as that and you go, "Yeah, I did that. I know how to do that now." You know, so, you know, I am grateful for you listening, if you're still with me here. And I want to encourage each and every one of you that it really does start with a like 'being it' starts with a decision. Right? It's the decision to go do the thing, even if you don't know what it is or how you know what it ultimately is going to become. Or if it's or if you don't know exactly what you're doing, just making the decision that you're going to go figure it out is going to change. You know, and give yourself a window, tell yourself like, "Alright, I'm gonna figure this out over the next two months." And, you know, be diligent with it. And then after those two months are over, you know, did it work, yay or nay? You know, when I when I started those companies, with my friends, it became obvious after like, a year and a half, two years that they weren't growing the way we needed them to grow, to pay all of our bills. And for any number of reasons, there was a lot of reasons behind that. But it was like, okay, I it was our I felt, even though it's hard to separate myself from my closest friends. And it became there was an obvious, "Okay, I had given myself the window, and then I evaluated at the end of it, and it was time to make a decision." And that decision in those cases, unfortunately, was to move on. Right? Where some other times it might be that, "Okay, this is going well. Let's double down or let's hire a team or let's, you know, like, find another partner" or I don't know, whatever take you on the road. You know and so, Anyway, I want you to to think about setting yourself a timeline and then going after it for that timeline and then afterwards evaluating. Right? Because I think that is going to help you be it till you see it. So let me know, how you are going to use this this tip, these tips in your life. I'm really, I really want to know your story. I want to know, you know how this is going to impact your story in your life. You can DM, DM us at the pod at @be_it_pod on IG. So, thanks so much for listening. Bye for now.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Is the work-life balance real? Can you raise a toddler, chase your goals, and overcome rejection all at the same time? Roxy Menzies would say yes. Listen to hear all her wisdom from her years abroad teaching, performing, and presenting to now returning to her hometown and finding ways to inspire others to love movement. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:What kind of stories are you telling? The balance of work and family. It's not always easy or sustainable Naming the role models for balance Finding the people in your corner to support who you want to show upPersistence over patience The indoctrination of rejection Episode References/Links:WebsiteInstagramTop Travel and Teaching Blog by RoxyGuest Bio:After years of teaching, treating, performing and presenting around the world, Roxy has returned and is now based in Toronto, Canada. Continually curious about the capabilities of the human body, mind and spirit, she is a lover of movement with an affinity for Women's Health and being an advocate for your own well-being.With a background in dance, Pilates, GYROTONIC® and Yamuna® Body Rolling, she infuses artistry, knowledge, soul and a "fierce sense of humour" into her sessions. She has taught in the Canadian Educational system, professional dance companies, Cirque du Soleil and European corporations.She still dabbles in the dance world after an extensive career in commercial and stage work including representing women for Nike Dance in Europe, training with The National Dance Theatre Company of Jamaica, dance pioneer Katherine Dunham and an original member of Toronto's first all female Hip Hop dance group.Roxy's vision is to guide, educate and create safe spaces for individual's to explore their own movement potential. She is an accomplished freelance writer for various publications, copywriter for wellness professionals, and has been a regular contributor to Pilates Anytime and Healthline.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Hello, Be It listener. I have a very special guest for you. Yeah, we have lots of special guests. But I have a very special guest for you. Her name is Roxy Menzies. And I, you'll hear my introduction to her how long we've been in each other's paths. And it's just, do you ever those people that you like see from afar, and you're watching them, and you're seeing what they're up to, and then your paths cross, and then you might not even know what things you have in common or how you'll affect each other. In fact, you probably won't. That's kind of how you, we're not psychics. At any rate, what's really cool about this woman is I have been able to see different chapters of her life over time. And it is incredible, it's amazing to see the strength and power this woman has and to watch how she has used that strength and power in different areas of her life, in different chapters of her life. And for those of you who are like, "Things aren't happening fast enough." For those of you who are like, "I've got, I've got young kids right now. I can't do all the things I want to do." This is episode for you. This is the episode for you. There are so many gems along the way. I want you whether you're washing dishes, walking the dog, pay attention, just listen to what she's saying. Because I think you're going to easily see yourself in her story. And we talked a lot about writing. And if you don't want to be a writer, I still want you to listen, because you can replace writing for anything that you are wanting to do. And I have a question about patients in there and the revelation around that is actually extremely important. I want you to hear it. And I love of course, I love the BE IT action items at the end but I really love her's. They're something you can do. They don't cost you any money. So y'all, here she is Roxy Menzies.Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Hey, Be It listeners. All right. I have Roxy Menzies with us today, and I am really thrilled to actually to get to see her face. We DM a lot. I have been watching her journey for a long time actually. She's a bold, incredible woman. She actually approached me many years ago when I was a baby blogger just trying to get my words out there. And her blog posts for traveling instructors is still one of our top blogs on our site. And I got to follow her from her life and in Turkey into Canada and then being a mom. And now she is this really I mean, she's always been writing but she has made it as a writer is doing some incredible thing. So Roxy, how're you doing? Here ...Roxy Menzies 3:23  Hey! (Lesley: Thanks for being here.) Oh my gosh, what an intro. Thank you. (Roxy laughs)Lesley Logan 3:28  I'm ... I'm being it until I see it in my next life. I'll be like an edification person, be that announcer through the stage. (Lesley laughs) And ... next we have. Roxy, can you tell everyone who you are, where you're at? What you rockin right now? What are you up to?Roxy Menzies 3:43  All right. All right. Good question. All right. So basically, I am a teacher of a Pilates, Gyrotonic. And yeah, I'm in a body rolling. I come from a background of dance. I've been traveling around the world teaching, presenting, performing and all of that, and I'm back in my hometown of Toronto, Canada. And I'm also a freelance writer and a storyteller, mostly for the writing is mostly within the realm of health and health and wellness for now. And I'm a mom of a rambunctious toddler. (Lesley laughs)Lesley Logan 4:17  She's, is she one, two?Roxy Menzies 4:19  No. she's, she'll be two and a half in July.Lesley Logan 4:22  Oh my gosh.Roxy Menzies 4:24  So she's almost reaching that independent stage. So I've been told. (Lesley laughs) But I have to be honest, I'm happy that she's quite energetic. You know, I don't think I'd want a kid that's just like, blahh, you know, (Lesley and Roxy laughs) no energy and not doing anything. So, so yeah. (Lesley: That's so funny.) Okay, she's my ride or die ...Lesley Logan 4:24  She's amazing. She's so beautiful. And she's so smart. And I love I love all the videos with her. I met a woman yesterday who, she's a school teacher and she has two boys and and so the doctor said, "You know your second son, he's he's an orchid. He's just an orchid." He said he really, you just you have really precious with him. And she's like, "I understand. I am a school teacher." So, um, so you, you, you, as you mentioned, you write for health and wellness right now and I think a lot of people probably wonder like they, I think a lot of people want to write. I think they think they're gonna write a book someday or maybe they'll write a story someday. What made you start writing, have you been writing your whole life? What what got you into it?Roxy Menzies 5:27  Ooh, good question. I feel like, I've always been writing. I've always loved stories, whether it's, you know, oral stories, I mean, my mom's a great ghost storyteller. But yeah, I love stories, I've loved reading. And, you know, I was I was very much into creative writing from a young child. But I never pursued it. So, so I just did little bits here and there. And then after high school, not so much. And then kind of sprinkled it in, throughout the years with, you know, not so much blog posts, but there were printed editions of, you know, community based companies and programs, and I just do one off here or there. And then, but I always want to do it more, I would probably say in the last six, six to eight years, it was it was a goal of mine to be doing more writing, (Lesley: Yeah) whether it was, you know, eventually a book of some sort. And just articles in general. For me, it's also therapeutic. I get a lot of things out of my brain and emotionally off of my chest, (Roxy laughs) from writing. (Lesley: Yeah) But yeah, I would say it's kind of always been there. But I've been growing with it. And I sort of, and how it became another income stream, wasn't so much on on purpose, I kind of fell into it. I just wanted to write and get my voice out there thinking that it would come back to, to my website and what I was doing, but then it became it became something else. And from there, I can see other pathways growing.Lesley Logan 7:08  Yeah. I think that's really cool that you mentioned that it wasn't necessarily the thought to do it as a living, it was more like it was just in you to do it. And I do think a lot of people might feel like, "Oh, if I'm not going to write for people, for people to pay me, maybe I like what's the point." But I love that you point out is is therapeutic, there is something, I do morning pages, and it's therapy. It's like, "Wat's on my mind right now?" And it's not for anyone else to read and then writing for things for people to read is is for me, I don't know about for you. It's like, this is something I feel like needs to is the question I'm hearing and I need the answer to be out there. And, and so I wonder though, you yes you mentioned you weren't like writing forever. So it's like you took a pause. And then you were like, "I really want to start doing this more." As it became an income stream. Was there anything that was like key, like holding you back? Or were you just like now like, there's no stopping me now? Like, was there any, you know, things you were kind of weighing, like, as an imposter syndrome around there? Because this is just like in the world of writing. And like, do you start to wonder about writing for other publications? What's the process that you go through as you're trying to get your work out there?Roxy Menzies 8:17  Oh, sure. Yeah, for sure. I'm sure I had impostor syndrome, I still do at time, because something that's come up a lot is people will say, "Oh, my grammar" and all that. And I am terrible with grammar. So that's something that I always felt, you know, could hold me back or I'm not as good of a writer because of, you know, these grammatical things. I don't have a journalism degree, you know, things like that. But, but things just kept coming up. And I also remember reading, I have a writing mentor, now, actually, and I read something that she had written, something along the lines of writers don't have to worry about grammar. That's what editors are for. Like you, as a writer, you are meant to express yourself and creatively get whatever story needs to be out there. And that really hit home. And that was almost like a huge relief for me. And the same was some of the editors I've had there. They say, "Don't worry about that. You know, that's my job. I take care of that." (Lesley: That is so cool.) And I guess it's not too too bad. (Lesley and Roxy laughs) You know, because I hear some horror stories about some editors out there, but so far, I've I've been pretty lucky.Lesley Logan 9:31  Yeah, I think I love that you heard that and I love that you say that because I do think that holds people back. A lot of people think they're not a writer or they think their grammar isn't good enough. And same, it's not for me either. I'm like, I feel like, "I, how did I miss, did I miss years of classes?" Like where did I get... (Lesley laughs)Roxy Menzies 9:50  I know like some people they talk about these, you know, grammatical things. So I'm like, "I have no idea what they're talking about." (Roxy laughs)Lesley Logan 9:56  When I was doing my flashcards, the Mat flashcards. I had one of the Agency members, who I know is like, she's like us like she's the person who's like, "Um, you missed the, it's a PDT, not PST," and it's like, "What is the difference? Is there a difference?" Like you know, like, doesn't matter. We all know what's going on, right? Anyway. So I was like, "Hey, can you read these?" And she's like, "Do you guys want to have an Oxford comma? Or are you guys not Oxford comma people?" And I was like, "What is an Oxford comma?" So then I like look up Oxford commas. And then I was like, "Oh, my God, it was a massive lawsuit, put the Oxford comma and because I don't want to get sued." (Lesley laughs)Roxy Menzies 10:31  Yeah, and those are funny things that come up. I mean, that's something that I mean, if we talk about it later, in the writing course, for Profitable Pilates, I talked about that. And usually, every publication will give you a guide to how their style is, and it will say, and like, some will say, "We don't use the Oxford coma, comma." Some will say, you know, "We do, we don't" and you know, other guidelines, like how many sources you can have, and, and they kind of guide you in that sense as well.Lesley Logan 10:59  That's so cool. That's so great. I mean, I think (Roxy: Yeah) there's the fear of the unknown, right? And also, maybe even the fear of what happens if it works out, like what happens if you all of a sudden start to write and then you know, what does that look like? What is ... So you're you weren't writing as an income stream, you were teaching dance and teaching Yamuna and Pilates. And now, do you only write or is that the main focus right now? Did your career just completely shift?Roxy Menzies 11:28  Um, it kind of felt like a did for a while because I did stop teaching. I mean, I, I would say probably from summer of 2019, I, I really started downsizing on the teaching, because we were moving abroad, and I was pregnant, and there was so much to do with that, like, my husband is not Canadian, so we had to get his papers. And, and you know, when (Lesley: That's a process.) me coming back into the country full time. Yeah. So there was so much and then of course, we know, the pandemic hit. So a lot of things shifted. And then by August of 2020, I stopped teaching completely. So I just, I couldn't manage all of it. I didn't have the energy, and I didn't and I didn't feel like I could give it, I could give clients or or, you know, group classes enough at that point. (Lesley: Yeah) Do you know what I mean? Like, I felt like I was being pulled in too many directions.Lesley Logan 12:23  Well, and also like, gosh, I mean, back then you had and a newborn, right? You had a newborn, you were back in a country you hadn't lived in personally for a while. You're trying to get your husband set up. There's a pandemic, it's a little hard to be teaching someone on Zoom when there's a baby crying in the background, like (Roxy: Definitely) I can, I think a lot of people listening are probably going, "Oh my God her too?" Like, they probably don't feel as alone. Because that especially that first six months to a year, depending where you were lived and what your kids ages were, it really did probably feel like for a lot people they had a pullback or or, or to understand that you only have so many priorities.Roxy Menzies 13:00  Oh, definitely. I mean, I think some of the stats have come out in regards to how many women left the workforce. (Lesley: Yeah, so many.) You know, and they're just slowly coming back into it. But it was actually good. It was it was a break. And I just started getting back into teaching, I would say February of this year. Yeah. So and that also is very minimal, how much I'm teaching because again, I have to balance everything out. Jazz, my toddler, she is only going to daycare part time. (Lesley: Yeah) And I'm, and I'm still trying to do some other things. And still, write. So I have to I have to watch how much teaching I take on. But it feels great. Like having that break was was amazing. And I feel like I've I've come back and I'm exploring, possibly a new way of teaching, (Lesley: Yeah) just because, you know, I do feel different in many ways, like, physically, emotionally. I mean you just grow.Lesley Logan 14:00  Yeah, I think that's, well, I think whether or not you had a kid the last two years, it's pretty hard to be. I feel like it'd be really hard to have been the same person that I was before (Roxy: Sure) the pandemic. You know, a lot of time spent with myself. You're like, "Why do we do this? How are we doing this?" I love that you are talking about that balance, though, because I do think a lot of moms particularly but parents in general, there's a balance there, right? It's like how much can you do have one thing while also spending time with your child? And is that a difficult conversation for you to have? Or are you is it easier now that it's been two and a half years with her? Is it ...Roxy Menzies 14:44  No, (Lesley and Roxy laughs) I can tell you this it is constantly changing. I feel like it's constantly changing because the I don't know I I always used to think there was a way to find a balance and lately I'm questioning that. (Roxy laughs) But maybe, maybe there isn't. And really, some things have to be like, I learned this from you, parking ideas, and parking things for now and coming back to it later. And, and I've really recognized that there really are phases in our life. And there are times where you have to put a focus on on certain things and other things have to be by the wayside. And, (Lesley: Yeah) and then it'll change again, you know, they say, like, the seasons change. (Lesley: Yeah) So so I think that I'm still striving for a balance, like the the next thing for me is going to be like really self care, like when she, like I know, she's going to day... daycare full time in the fall. And I already know that I'm not going to be taking on too much, because it's going to be 'me time', it's going to be taking care of me. (Roxy laughs)Lesley Logan 15:49  Thank you for sharing that. You know, first of all, I used to listen to lots of podcasts about balance, and I heard people call it the work life blend, and then they are like, "No, it's the life work balance, because that's more alphabetical and we shove life before work anyways." And then my, like constantly I think about my yoga teacher, who would teach these balance workshops. And he said, "Balance is actually just controlling like, it's like, basically the space between falling." So when you are balanced, like in a handstand, you are working on not falling either backwards or forwards. It's (Roxy: Right) not like you're just up there. And it's like, chill beans, like it's work. (Roxy: Yeah, work of the balance. No.) (Lesley laughs) Nailed it. Where's my gold star?Roxy Menzies 16:31  You're constantly, it's constantly, you know, like, you're moving around, faltering, figuring it out.Lesley Logan 16:37  Yeah, like your, your fingertips are taking more weight than the heel of your hands, you're, you're contracting more muscles. And so I have stopped thinking that balance is easy. And nor is it like something that is sustainable, because, you know, eventually there's going to be something that tips the balance in one direction or the other. And it doesn't mean that, like, I'm not looking to have balance of some kind, but I think it's like, for me, and I love what you're saying for you. There is a season, you have a self care season ahead for you, you know, and ...Roxy Menzies 17:08  Yeah, that hopefully will stay, (Roxy laughs) forever. Forever in my life.Lesley Logan 17:13  Yeah, well let me know how that goes. But I and it's like, there are going to be seasons like, where you can actually for people listen, like you can work more towards whatever your work goal is because maybe the kids maybe your kid is in school, or maybe you have an extra time or you just have a flow, you know. Kareen Walsh did an episode like, it's okay for you to hustle. It's just what your hustle becomes a hassle. Right? When people are like, (Roxy: Yeah) grinding it out. And so, and thank you for sharing that because I ...Roxy Menzies 17:37  Right. And that's a season too, right? (Lesley: Yeah) Because, and that's the thing, you know, I feel like we get so many conflicting bits of information, right? Because because you'll get the you know what? Life shouldn't be about the grind. And then we get in, then we get the other one that's like, "Yo, I'm hustling, and I'm making it." And there are going to be times in your life. Like she said, like, you have to hustle. And you just know that okay, for this, whatever, 10 weeks, it's going to be tight. This is going to be I'm not going to be able to do this as much. And I'm gonna have to focus on this. But it can't. It's not sustainable, like you said, so it can't go on and on and on. It has to change. And that even goes back to what you were just saying about the balance. Right. (Lesley: Yeah) So so it's really interesting, but I want to share something with you, (Lesley: Tell me. Tell me. I love it. I love it.) On the round of be it till you see it. Well, there's two things I want to share with you. (Lesley: Yeah) So, I think it was a couple of weeks ago, I was sitting on the couch. And I was just thinking and I was like, "Oh, I know what my next be it till you see it is going to be." (Lesley: I'm so excited. What is it?) Because I've been feeling very, oh speaking of balance just a bit all over the place. And the house is messy. And I don't feel like our routines are set with with a toddler. And I was like, "You know what, I'm gonna be the organized mom until I see it." So that is the thing that I'm working on. And I've tried to have an image of who you'd like to have, like a role model and (Lesley: Yeah) it is so funny, because the things that keep popping in my head, you want to talk about things that are ingrained in you from society. Is that sort of not maybe like Stepford wife but like the homemaker like 50s with the apron and that's not the image that I want. Something like, "Who is a mom role model?" And just today I went Michelle Obama. (Lesley: Aah) Yes, that is that is the be it till you see it mom role model that I'm going for.Lesley Logan 19:31  Oh, yes. And and because she definitely to me represents organized mama like she really and she had clear boundaries and she felt like she wasn't (Roxy: Yeah) because I when I think of like those Stepford wife person, it's like, they're doing everything for everybody and she was like, "No, Mr. Obama President you will have dinner with us and actually ..." (Lesley and Roxy laughs)Roxy Menzies 19:53  Yeah. Exactly, you're gonna have to rework your schedule.Lesley Logan 19:55  Yeah. You know, I love this. I'm I'm trying to think of the book because there is one and I can't think of the name, but it will come to me and I will send it to you. It's about a guy who talks about how we do have these different roles that we can play. And he talks about how even Martin Luther King, he brings them upside. So he puts a glasses on when he would write. And it was kind of like his Superman kind of like, glasses thing, but becasue he didn't need them to write.Roxy Menzies 19:55  Yeah. We just to talk about that back in the day when I was dancing. You know, we used to say, because I was in this, we were like the first all female hip hop group in Toronto. And I remember a friend of mine saying one time, like, "You know, how you dress is gonna affect how you dance and the attitude," you know. So, so we were doing like, you know, really grounded, gritty, hip hop dancing. And she was like, "You know, we can't come in with your ballet tights and leotard." Like, you're not going to have that same, you know, feeling so so I get that when you say about the role or even sometimes, you know, especially like, you know, this whole work from home phenomenon that's gone on, and people are like, "Well, you know, what, you still wake up and you still put something on." (Lesley: Yeah) You know, or people just put on their lipstick. And I (Lesley: Yeah) get to work because that signifies that change ...Lesley Logan 21:11  Yeah, I changed my clothes. I've been changing my clothes after I try, if I'm like, today, I'm filming. So I'm completely in workout gear for this podcast. But typically, I will change out of workout clothes into real clothes. So that I'm like, real clothes. It's like they're all clothes. But they are like, (Roxy: Yeah) clothes people ... (Roxy: I got what you mean.) Yeah. So then I'm like, oh, so when I got, it... you show ... I show up differently. I show up for like, I'm, I'm here to work. And then when the workday is over, I'll change into like the clothesI walk the dogs and like it put those different things on. Amy Ledin, who I think you remember her from, she did the DACs. Remember her?Roxy Menzies 21:46  Yes. She's the one with the cards or the (Lesley: Yes) four things? (Lesley: Yes) Yes.Lesley Logan 21:52  Yes. So she actually has different names for different things. She has her health person, and she has a name for them. And she had her religious person, which was actually called, I want to say her name was Jane Maxwell after like a famous female minister and famous male minister. And like she met the names together, she ended up meeting John Maxwell. (Lesley and Roxy laughs) Because of this ...Roxy Menzies 21:52  Is like a confusing when you have too many though? (Lesley: Yeah, I mean ...) I would get, I would get confused and overwhelmed.Lesley Logan 22:20  Yeah, I know. But I think um, I really love going back to your like you how it's like, what would what would Michelle Obama as a organized mama do like right here. And that has been what helped me. That's why this podcast exists. It's what helped me be a CEO of my company, when I'm like, "I don't know how you grow company." Like, I know how to get clients. I don't know how to like scale a company. I don't know how to hire all these different team members. I've never thought about a corporate structure, all these things. And so I was like, "Okay, well, who do I need to be like, who is a female founder? Who I, who does this? What would she do? If she was ..."Roxy Menzies 22:57  Well that ... Yeah, sorry for interrupting you.Lesley Logan 23:01  No, you're fine. Go ahead.Roxy Menzies 23:02  I was gonna say it's, it was the same with writing. You know, I was like, I don't, I don't know how to do a blog for someone. Do I have to do, choose the pictures? Do I have to actually go into your website and put it into. I just send you the doc, like, there was a huge learning curve. And now I'm in this, this writing mentorship for a year. And I'm with this amazing cohort of women writers, and most of them are, they're all writers or publishers, or they have their own publishing house. And there's so much information. Again, so much stuff I don't know, like about the contracts or you know, if you want to self publish, how do you do that? What to look for in contracts? Like, the whole thing about the publishing industry. You know, there's so much there. And if you don't know where to start, you're, you know, you're swimming in unchartered waters, so to speak, (Lesley: Yeah) you know, so, so one, it helps. Yeah. I mean, you go for it, and you and you find, you start researching. But then also, it's like, you also need other people in your court. (Lesley: Yeah) You have to find the support or they find you and I think that happens when but like you said, when you be it till you see it, like if you're when you're solid in that and you've put out what you want, things will start coming to you (Lesley: I agree) that support that.Lesley Logan 24:26  I agree. I think like, a) you can put yourself in the rooms, like you put yourself also in a writing group you were writing before this group, but have you ... (Roxy: It fell into my lap, actually.) And that's because you were already out there writing like, it probably wouldn't have (Roxy: Right) fallen into your lap if you were just hanging out, wanting to be a writer.Roxy Menzies 24:42  No, not at all. And to be honest, I mean, I say that it kind of fell into my lap, but there are very few things I have like, because some people will look at the amount of writing I've done and just be like, "Wow, like, how did you do that?" And it's so much and I go listen. I am a person, I have had to almost push for everything. I do the following up, I check in. I mean, I was in touch with Pilates Anytime, from the first time talking to them about about writing. It was a full year till something was actually published under them. (Lesley: Thank you for saying that.) You know, so things take time. And it doesn't mean I was added every single day because I had other things going on, you (Lesley: Yeah) know, but, you know, a couple months later, and I was just like, "Hey, you know, checking in. Hey, what about writing for you da da da." And I've done that with so many things. That Balance Body blog, the conception of that was a year ago until it actually came out. And that was like finding the right place for it to be published. So so I don't want anybody to think that that there isn't work involved. There really is. (Lesley: Yeah) There is. And it's like you said, it's the preparation meets opportunity. (Lesley: Yeah) You know. (Lesley: Yeah) And you put things out there, but sometimes it does take time.Lesley Logan 26:02  Ah, thank you for sharing this these both those stories, because it is true. I think people go, "Oh, how to rock to get it. She must have just asked and then she got it." Nope. There's like waiting for crickets. I have to had to follow up with certain companies seven times, like, "Hey, just fallen back on this. Get back on the top of the thing." Like, and, you know, also, we talked about this before we hit record. But I had told Roxy, I'm so excited. I'm really excited. I had asked someone to be on this podcast, and they didn't respond. And I actually didn't even realize that they didn't respond until I went to ask him again. But I thought I was asking, I was asking but I guess I had, I had had her on my like dream list from when I was launching. And just so y'all know, when you're launching a podcast, the big names don't want to be on you unless you're a big name already. Because why (Roxy: Yeah) there's no audience to take from, there's no audience to glean from so you have to kind of earn your way to a place where you can get these people to like pay attention to you. That's why, hello, aka reviews matter people. (Lesley and Roxy laughs) So, their publicist is looking. So um, so anyways, I was, I was like, "Okay, I'm going to ask her again. We're headed over 100 episodes and asked her." And so I send the DM and then I after I hit send, I saw I saw that we'd asked her the first time and she didn't respond. And I was like, "Oh, my God, maybe I should take it down." And then I was like, "No, I'm gonna leave it up." And you know what? She responded with a 'Yes', that was a year long, yes, I waited for. And you have to follow up. I mean, I think a lot of people think that if somebody doesn't respond or says no, it's never. And it's like, you just don't know when they, when what you have to say, aligns with what they have going on.Roxy Menzies 27:42  Yeah, definitely. There's so many different things and sometimes messages, emails, they just fall through the cracks. (Lesley: Oh, I'm notorious for deleting emails.) You forget you go back in and you're like, "Hey, oh right, I forgot about that." I mean, people have so much going on as well. (Lesley: Right) I mean, even relates to business. I mean, I don't know how many how many sales points are there now? Like you have to ...Lesley Logan 28:04  Oh, yeah, it was I read it. I heard it the other day. It's over 20, now. Girl, it's over 20. So what she means by that is, you pre pandemic was 7 to 17 touch points before somebody would click doesn't mean they buy, it means they click and they know this from ads. It's like how many times does someone have to see an ad before they click on it 7 to 17. It is over 20 now. It is in there's just so much going on. And it's so easy for someone opened up an email their kid to tug on their shirt, there, they spill their coffee, then they didn't even read the email, then they go to open their email, it's gone. It's already unread. So worth the following up, worth of following up. Okay, let's talk really quick because I am obsessed with your approach to things. And I've been in awe and read. I've read every blog that has ever been shared by you, to me, and I love your words. And I'm all I always find myself going, "Yes, yes." So I ... (Roxy: You're the best cheerleader ever) (Roxy laughs) Oh, I like, I'm like, "Yes." Well, especially, we'll put the link to the the recent core article you wrote. Because I'm I'm really am obsessed with it.Roxy Menzies 29:11  I think part two is out today, actually. (Lesley: Oh, great.) So as we speak, it's been it's been put up. Lesley Logan 29:16  Great, because then when this airs, we have both links in it. That's amazing. So um, so I think it was ... I have we had talked about you doing a course a lot for a while. And there was like, you know, it was (Roxy: Yeah) it was not a no, but it was like, "Okay, I'll think about it." And I was like, ... (Lesley laughs)Roxy Menzies 29:33  That's how the best things have happened. I mean, this studio, I'm working at downtown. It was the same thing. This girl used to dance with. She sent me a DM. She said, "Are you ready to start teaching?" This was back in late November, early December. And that I mean talk about snob. I was kind of like, "Hmm. I don't know but I'll check it out." (Lesley and Roxy laughs) And then it was the weirdest onboarding process and I love this place. Like it feels like home and my husband, I haven't said because you never say that about any place in studio. So it's, it's, yeah, I mean, things can kind of pop up. And I remember when you you mentioned that to me, and I think Jazz was really small at the time. (Lesley: Yeah) I don't even think she was quite yet a year. And I was kind of like, "Yeah, maybe blah, blah, blah." But you planted the seed. That's the point. (Lesley: Yeah) And then things I started thinking about, "Oh, well, what could that be? That'd be interesting." And then I was getting all these questions in regards to writing. So I was like, "Oh, this could be something interesting." And then it kind of grew from there. But yeah, but I mean, that also took time, right?Lesley Logan 30:38  Took time, it took a long time, I think it was almost a year as well. And so y'all we'll put it in the notes but if you are, if you're listening to this, you're like, "Oh, I wanted to write. Oh, that's I thought about that." Roxy actually created a course for Profitable Pilates, which is our fitness business coaching company. And it is, I have to say like, first of all, I think it puts my courses to shame, it is so thorough, it is so robust. It is incredible how helpful and supportive it is, for people who are wanting to write, you really thought of a lot of things that I didn't even think you would like even think to ask you to include. And I'm really grateful, because it's so funny. On the last day, we did a promo for everyone, just as like a launch promo, and it's a very affordable course. So you can just go get it. But on the last day of that promo Pilates nerd had read, had been a post, did you see this comic post? (Roxy: Oh ...) It was like a guy who looks like he probably has never worked out just like hanging out in a chair. And he's like, to... like all tired. And he's like, "Oh, I'm writing, ah, wellness article." (Lesley and Roxy laughs) You know. And, and the whole idea was like, "We need people, too who are in wellness to write wellness articles." And that's why your course exists. Because so many of us get upset by the articles we see, you know, case in point, and somebody texted me last week, like, "What's this?" And I was like, "Why don't you just contact the writer and of the at the newspaper and say, 'Hey, have you ever thought about interviewing someone who actually teaches?'" Like, (Roxy: Right) you know, because (Roxy: Excuse me) they're only there, the articles that are out there are from the people who pitch them, they can't pitch, they can't, they can't publish articles that don't exist and aren't being pitched to them. And so I really am grateful for the course that you have, because as you ...Roxy Menzies 32:28  You are so right about that, because since since this, I've joined a couple of like freelance writing groups. And I've seen job opportunities come up, I mean, in things that I mean, all kinds of subjects. And, and there are writers out there, I mean, they, they have no experience in it nothing. And they're just like, "Oh, I can write about that." There was one that really bothered me, because cuz she was specifically looking for diversity and inclusion, paper and writing. And that should literally be people that are (Lesley: Yeah) that are experienced and, and know about that work and (Lesley: Yeah) all kinds of people from the woodworks, like, "Oh, I can write, I can write." Because they're just looking for writing gigs. So they just figure they can research whatever. (Lesley: Yeah) And, and it can come up.Lesley Logan 33:17  Yeah, and you know, that's the difference. I mean, I can read article, and know, like, "This person has never done it before. They don't know." Like I can, (Roxy: Yeah) because I am in the wellness industry, or the business industry. But people who are not are gonna read the article. And they're gonna go, "Oh, that's, that's the yoga and Pilates. The difference is breathing." And it's like, ah huh, it's a little bit more complex on that. (Lesley laughs) (Roxy: Definitely) Well, y'all ...Roxy Menzies 33:45  I'm actually writing something about Gyrotonic. And that's taken a lot. I've been pushing for that for a while, because I'm like, "Hey, you know, everybody knows about Pilates and yoga. Let's try and cover some other modalities as well." (Lesley: Yeah) That's finally coming. So again, that's I pushed for that, kept reminding. Hey, you know.Lesley Logan 34:00  Okay, so I feel like the common theme is following up and patience. (Roxy laughs) So (Roxy: Yeah) so were you always just because I'm curious now. Were you always a patient person? Or did you learn that through this career that you've created? Or is it in the last ...Roxy Menzies 34:19  ... I wouldn't use the word patience. I would not use the word patience. (Lesley: Okay) And I'm sure my husband be like, "She is not patient at all." (Lesley and Roxy laughs)Lesley Logan 34:27  You're persistent then.Roxy Menzies 34:29  Yeah, persistent would be a better word. (Lesley: Okay) I mean, there are some things I just like you feel called to do. (Lesley: Yeah) You know, like, like, even with this one that came out with Balance Body. I pitched it to another big Pilates place. And it didn't go like like myself and the editor. We're just on very different trajectories. So then I was able to like I checked in with people I was like, "Anybody connected to Balance Body. I think that would be a great company to to get this piece out with." And, and yeah, and it took some time to get through the channels and get in and pitch this idea. And then they were like, "Oh, we love it, we think it would be great actually." And for it to go. So it's really yeah, I would say I'm more driven and (Lesley: Yeah) persistent than anything else. I mean, they're there obviously, for some things, there comes a point where, you know, you have to stop or whatnot. (Lesley: And you just know ... feeling?) Like, I don't, I don't call them every single day or anything like that. But I will, I will ask, I think if you don't ask, it won't happen. You have to be willing to ask (Lesley: Brilliant) and put yourself out there.Lesley Logan 35:43  So so then, so then people are gonna want to know, how about the rejection? Like, how often does that happen? How does it hurt? Do you just move on to the next thing, because it's part of the gig. Like, I mean, rejection ...Roxy Menzies 35:54  Well, it happens all the time. And also, you know, I'm also coming from being a dancer. So I mean (Lesley: Yeah, you're used to be.) ... talk about rejection. (Roxy laughs)Lesley Logan 36:04  That's how they indoctrinate you with rejection. And that because I'm in a group with a girl who's a dancer, she's like, "Rejection?" She's like, "You get rejected for being you." That's like, it's like, (Roxy: Oh, totally) at least with your writing you can go, "Well, it's a blog post is not actually me." But like with dancing. It's like, "hmm, I don't like that your hair ..." Roxy Menzies 36:21  You're too tall. You're this, you're that. Yeah. So rejection, but does it hurt? Of course, it's still, it's still, sometimes it'll sting. And it depends, I think on on so many different factors, like what else is going on? Like, you know, "I've I've been sleeping enough? Am I sort of grounded?" And, you know, because if you're in a in a pretty decent place, you can handle rejection a lot better. But I'm also somebody who I will feel the feels, I will give my ego a moment to have its little temper tantrum, not in public. You know, like off to the side privately or I talked to a friend and I'm just like, "Oh, my gosh, blah, blah, blah." I have that moment and then I move on.Lesley Logan 37:02  Yeah, (Roxy: You know) I think that is, I don't think enough people allow themselves to feel the feels like and I think that you, you have to because all the studies have been like, you know, there's the body keeps score, there's a book called Burnout, like keeping all of that inside and just acting like it doesn't bother you is also the opposite. And, you know, I am I'm hoping to get this person someday I want who wrote the book on rejection on the pod, because fear of rejection is real. But also something he said is like, you will be rejected more times in life than you will not. Like it's just part of life. You like, (Roxy: That's true) it's impossible for you to be rejected less than not, because there's only so much time in the day for you to do things.Roxy Menzies 37:46  Well, yeah, that's true. That's true. And then you can usually, I don't know, I like once I passed the little ego part, there's usually the moment where you can find the positive in it, or sometimes it's really a blessing in disguise. Like, there have been things where something didn't work out, and it bummed me out, or, you know, or somebody ghosted me about a possible job. And I was like, "What happened?" Like I still I don't understand and it was a blessing, because I thought if I did work with that person, that would have been a nightmare. (Lesley: Right) You know, so sometimes you have to, you have to trust in how, in how some things end up. There's always gonna be other doors that, that open. You but you still have to keep putting yourself out there and being driven. And when I was when I first came back in 2019, I was pregnant, I was just like, "I'm gonna audition for every pregnant thing out there." You know, before I give birth, thinking that there would be a ton of jobs there was literally because I didn't have an agent. There was literally like three pregnant jobs that came up in the span of four months that I booked the last one. And, and it was just nuts. And again, you wouldn't get it you know, you feel rejected, but I remember listening to I don't know, it was some podcasts about this actress and she had said that she's pretty well known. She's not like, like, you know, one of the Avengers (Lesley: Yeah) like known but she's like a really well known actress. I can't remember her name right now. But she had said that when she started auditioning her grandmother who did acting had said to her that it takes 60 auditions before you book one. (Lesley: Wow) Yeah, so she, so she literally kept score. And even her agent was like, "How are you still here? Like all these other actors and actresses given up by now?" She goes, "Because my grandma told me it would take 60." And I think she said it was in the 50s like, audition that she finally booked this role that jump started her career.Lesley Logan 39:52  Yeah, it is. I think you're I think the theme and it'll be in the recap is like persistence. This is a persi... like that it is the key to anything because also, it goes with like Seth Godin - The Dip, right? In every career, there is a dip where like a bunch of people bow out, they quit, they get out of the game. If you can get through that, you get to the other side, and there's very few people. And so for (Roxy: Right) by her 50th audition, there's very few people who've kept going. And so now she's auditioning against a few people with experience in auditioning that (Roxy: Right) are good enough to get it, you know, and I think Brad has his like 200 rejections, he's like, really like, he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't mind a rejection because he's like, "Okay, that's one down. That's one down." He's gotta go. (Roxy: Right. He's keeping a tally.) Yeah, yeah. And I think like, if we can maybe the moral for everyone is like, maybe you have to get 60 rejections before you get one. But like, so (Roxy: yeah) count them and go, "Okay, that's, I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer." Roxy Menzies 40:54  I would always say to though, I mean, have other things going on as well. Like, I'm somebody who was never put all your eggs in one basket. My problem would be I probably have too many baskets. (Lesley laughs) I'm working on like narrowing the basket.Lesley Logan 41:08  You know, I understand that I had to narrow ... a whole team that like, "You have to narrow down your baskets and here is an ideas parking lot." (Lesley laughs) And it's I'm very grateful. Like I'm very grateful for those things because they have allowed me to do what I'm doing now. Roxy, you are just amazing. Y'all we're gonna come back in just a second. But Roxy's course is available on Profitable Pilates, we'll put the link below. When you buy that course, not only do we pay our course contributor, you also we donate a percentage of every sale to the Cupcake Girls Organization, which is actually helping stop human trafficking and also allow sex workers to have rights. So I'm really excited about what they are doing. They're incredible. Alright, Roxy, where can people find you? Where can they read your writing, stalk you, hire you for work? What's going on?Roxy Menzies 41:55  All right. All right. Well, you can start with my website, which is my name, roxymenzies.com. I have my full writing portfolio on there. And it's, as everyone knows, a website is a work in progress. So it's constantly being like updating and adding things in. And you can also find me on Instagram at @roxyspiral. And it's a r o x, y. (Lesley: Yeah) I can't stand that are r o x i e, personally ... It's r o x y. And please check out Wednesdays because I do Writing Tip Wednesdays.Lesley Logan 42:25  I love your Writing Tip Wednesdays. I'm so glad you started that. And it's I mean, you've been doing it for several weeks. And by the time this comes out, it'll be you know, probably a couple months, but it's, I am reminded of something like, "Oh, yeah, that that's great." Like, I love it. So it's sometimes it's a confidence builder, sometimes the lightning and you're just wonderful, and generous. And and ...Roxy Menzies 42:44  Thank you. You too, my goodness.Lesley Logan 42:46  Thank you. We try. We're trying every day like, how do we help more people that just be successful what they want to do, and I'm grateful for you being on this podcast. Before I let you go though, you must. I know we've talked a lot about things but just to wrap it up in case people do the TDLR whatever. TLDR - too long, didn't read and they just swipe till the end. BE IT action items - bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Roxy Menzies 43:13  It's gonna be a real shocker, write it down. (Lesley: ooh) Right? I mean, there are studies out there that show once you write something down, it has a higher chance of being achieved. Plus, it creates more bandwidth in your in your head. So that would be my number one thing, whatever it is that you want to be or whatever your dreams or goals, write it down and keep it somewhere. You know, for everyone, it will be different. If you're if you're a visual person, you need to see it. That would be the one thing I would say. And of course, it's coming from a writing perspective. (Lesley: Yeah) And other than that, I would say just getting really clear on your 'why' and your 'what'. Like, 'what is it that you really want' and 'why do you want it' and be and know that it can change and it will change and allow it to change, periodically.Lesley Logan 44:10  Yeah, yes. That's the ... allow it to change is so key. Roxy, you are a wonderful person. I know I said that. But I gotta say it again before I wrap this up. Now please check her out. Follow on Instagram. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Screenshots this episode, tag @roxyspiral, tag the @be_it_pod with your favorite takeaways. Do yourself a favor if you have a friend who you're like, "Oh my gosh, they need to hear this." Text it to them. You know, a lot of things in my life have changed because someone sent me a podcast and it's like, "Oh, that's exactly what I need to hear today." And you don't even what we often think we have to buy people gifts or do things like this or sit down have confident you could just send them a podcast episode. And rate and review the podcast so more people hear about it. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.That's all I've got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast! One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate this show and leave a review. 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Mindset has a lot more to do with just feelings and thoughts, it comes down to a science. Engage with Brad and LL as they recap psychologist, Kasey Jo Ordivas and her insights to overcoming fixed vs growth mindset and how it impacts seemingly small thoughts…like cooking;)If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Fixed vs growth mindset Researching your thoughts The seven whysWriting out the feelings around imposter syndrome Episode References/Links:Kasey's Free Growth Journal promptsEthan Kross: Chatter The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:01  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Brad Crowell 0:46  Hello!Lesley Logan 0:47  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life Brad Crowell and I are going to talk about the shifting convo I had with Kasey Jo Orvidas in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, go back, listen to that one, and then come back to this one, or listen to this one and listen to that one, or listen to this one and another one and then come back to that one. You get to do whatever order of podcasts as you want to do. And I'm really excited because if it sounds like we're in a different room, or if you're watching this on YouTube, and you're like, "Whose five year old bedroom are you in?"Brad Crowell 1:17  Yeah, that sort of feels like, definitely. And it also may sound different than normal because we are not at home.Lesley Logan 1:26  No, actually. So here's the deal. I was supposed to be there, there's so many things that are happening in the world right now. Right? That it's like you want to do all and I believe in pauses, we believe in the power of the pause and a girlfriend of mine, Kareen Walsh, who was actually and Dr. Kelly Bender, who are both have been guests on this podcast. They were both going to be in Scottsdale while they were both in Scottsdale, Arizona for different conferences at the same time. It's a 45... (Brad: I didn't know that.) Yeah. (Brad: Oh) So yeah. So I they're at different conferences at the same time. And so they're like, "Hey, do you want to come to Arizona and hang with us?" And I was like, "Yeah, I do." So I was like, I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna go there." But then Barely Canadian was supposed to have a fashion show. And they're like, "Hey, are you gonna be able to come our fashion show?" And I was like, "I think I can do that." And then you're like, "I'm so, we're supposed to go camping." I was like, "Well, I can do all the things." So let me just tell you, if you really want to do things, you probably can make it happen. So what was the original plan was I was gonna fly to Arizona, I was gonna hang with Kareen and Kelly, which I did do. But then the fashion show got moved to June 5th, which is my Dad's birthday, so I can't do that. However, when we planned this I was like flying from Arizona to LA then taking an Amtrak train to Josh... to Palm Springs where Brad was gonna pick me up in Palm Springs to go to Joshua Tree. Anyways, then this incredible thing happened which was have an amazing phone call interview with this incredible magazine. I didn't want to miss. So then we had to like add a hotel into there. And then the fashion show got moved. So anyways, fast forward, rewind. I flew from Arizona to hang out with my girlfriends. Then I flew to Palm Springs. I'm in this pretty pretty princess room because it's the only room available in Palm Springs on a Sunday during all these festivals. And Brad is here. We're recording these podcasts before we go to Joshua Tree. (Brad: Yeah) Hang out in his cactus garden. (Brad: Heck yeah.) Anyway, (Brad: I'm so excited.) that is not what I was super excited about. (Brad and Lesley laughs) But Brad wanted to make sure, we all wanted...Brad Crowell 3:21  A little side note. (Lesley: Yeah) Little side note.Lesley Logan 3:22  We just wanted to make sure that you knew why we're in a weird space and it's not a five year old room. This is a hotel room you can you can get this but they didn't pay me for this podcast, so I'm not telling you who it is. Okay, coming up in a couple of weeks, I am going to be with Erika Quest teaching a six hour pre con at Momentum Fest, if you don't remember Jessica Valant. She was on our show last year. (Brad: Yeah) She's incredible. Brad and I love Momentum Fest and Brad's gonna be there with our booth. I'm teaching at the festival all weekend long. So if you live in Denver, if you can get yourself to Denver, you need to be going to Momentum Fest. So check that out. And ...Brad Crowell 3:57  It's a movement festival. So it's not just Pilates. They have all sorts of (Lesley: Yoga ... medication) modalities there. Yeah. And and it's also just a great time. It's just great people. It's a really fun vibe. And we've we. The first year we did it because our our friends were doing it, hosting it. And we were like, "Oh, well, of course we'll come in and support you." (Lesley: Yeah) And it was so much fun. We were like, "Well, you're gonna do it again next year. Right? Because we're coming."Lesley Logan 4:22  Yeah. And then and then we actually didn't do the next one.Brad Crowell 4:26  Well, then the next one we were out of the country.Lesley Logan 4:29  Yeah, anyways, but we believe in it so much. We sent everyone there and we have gone back every year since (Brad: Yeah) we're really excited about it. We'll have the flashcards there, we've got the book there. It's just a lot of fun. There's a solstice party. You can buy one day tickets today tickets, you can buy the pre con without coming or you can come to the whole thing. Just get your Thass two at Momentum Fest. Okay. And then one more thing I'm super excited about because it's coming up quick. I can't believe how fast this summer is going, Brad. (Brad: Yeah, I know.) So (Brad: It's already May.) eLevate if you remember if you've been listening for a long time 'eLevate' is my mentorship program for Pilates instructors who are wanting to elevate their practice, their connection to the method and how they teach the method. And our first round sold out. It's been incredible to nine month program. Anyways, we're about to open up the doors for the second round. Yes, I said second round, I'm going to do it after all, we are just confirming all the dates around the retreats, but we're taking fewer people this time. So if you are wanting to be on invited to that mentorship, you actually need to do need to get on to the waitlist, because we are going to invite those people first. First come, first serve applications. So you need to go to um, where did they need to go, Brad?Brad Crowell 5:38  lesleylogan.co/elevateLesley Logan 5:43  Great, great, so you're gonna go there to get on the waitlist? Okay. We have an audience question, I think. (Brad: Yeah) This is funny. This one made me laugh.Brad Crowell 5:52  Well, I'll, I will let you read it because (Lesley: Okay) it's about me.Lesley Logan 5:56  Yeah. So I got a question. Did I see that Brad does have an Instagram account. And it's been kind of funny, because the whole time it's like Brad's not on Instagram. He's not on social. He's not on social but Brad, did you, did you?Brad Crowell 6:09  I totally did. I was I was inspired by our publicist. She said, "Brad, you talk about cactuses so much. You should have an Instagram about that." And I was like, "I would totally do that. I'm totally doing that." And so we brainstormed a lot of different names and ultimately got cactus daddie, that's @cactus_daddie, d a d d i e. (Lesley: Yeah) And so if you love seeing plants that somehow magically survive in jungles and deserts, cactus, cacti, they all, they do, succulents as well. I'm infatuated with them. And everywhere I go, now, they just kind of jump out at me and I take pictures of them. And it's just a lot of fun. (Lesley: Yeah) So come join me.Lesley Logan 6:58  Come join him. If you want to see the cactuses. He's already been getting feedback on on his account. So (Brad and Lesley laughs) (Brad: I have.) So you know, what? Every... no one is immune to feedback on their social media. All right.Brad Crowell 7:14  All right. Let's talk about Kasey Jo Orvidas. Obsessed with the connection between mindset and health behaviors. Kasey Jo went and got a Ph.D in Psychology to study growth versus the fixed mindset. Okay. Growth versus fixed. And that's key. It was a great conversation. She then developed her own program, health mindset, coaching certification, and started her health and fitness coaching business, KJO coaching. She's a determined woman working to blend psychology and health to help her clients develop lasting change. (Lesley: Yeah) And I just wanted to say, first off, I had no idea that like, mindset wasn't just a concept, but it was a science. There's science behind mindset.Lesley Logan 8:01  I know. Everyone thinks, it's o, it's a woowoo. But it's it's actually completely scientifically based. SoBrad Crowell 8:06  Yeah, so like this, you know, I guess it made sense to me that she studied Psychology, of course. But then after getting the the foundation her... you know, in psychology, then went on to do her study and mindset. And so that found that really, really surprising. (Lesley: Yeah) I didn't know that.Lesley Logan 8:24  I love it. I love it. Well, you mentioned this already in her bio. So I'm gonna start with it. One thing I love that she talked about, is the growth versus six fixed mindset. And I think this is really a cool topic. It's, I find that when we can, we can actually like, label something, it makes it easier for us to understand what's happening. So I this weekend had a completely, a complete moment of a fixed mindset. And so just so you know, I think we talked about this in the podcast interview, you don't just like, you don't just like get a growth mindset and like, you're done. Like, nailed it, right? Like, you actually have to keep working at that. So, so just so you know, if you have days where you like, are like abundance, like I can do it all and like, like, you don't see things as holding you back, or like you don't see someone else's success as a reason you can't have it. That doesn't mean you're never going to have those moments where you're like, "I can't, you know, or this isn't working. I'm not good enough." Like you're gonna have you're a human being. But ...Brad Crowell 9:23  Well also too, there's more than it's not like you're not like chasing the the the mindset unicorn and once you've caught the unicorn, you're good for the rest of your life. (Lesley: Right) It's also like spread out across different topics, too. Right? You may have really worked on your money mindset, let's say (Lesley: Yeah) but your you know, your confidence in yourself in dating, maybe isn't there right so you're ... it's it's not like once you got it one place. You nailed it everywhere, either.Lesley Logan 9:56  Yeah, yeah. And I think that's really important, because I think that's where like, we're gonna talk about this later on the episode but like, I think that's where impostor syndrome comes in, because you like, you feel like you're good here, but you're not good there. I see this with our Agency members all the time. They're like, "Give it, I got it here. And now I don't have it here." And it's like, right, because it's ...Brad Crowell 10:11  I mean, Kasey talked about that, (Lesley: Yeah) too. She, she's, like, you know, even after five years of studying mindset, and understanding, you know, everything behind it, the foundation of it and why it happens. She said, she still catches herself, limiting herself and creating these limiting beliefs of like, "I always. I can't. Not that's not for me," like these kinds of words that are associated with (Lesley: Yeah) a fixed (Lesley: Yeah) mindset as opposed to a growth mindset. And, and I ...Lesley Logan 10:40  Oh, I think we talked about this on Michael Unbroken's episode, like, the worst thing you can say is, that's just who I am.Brad Crowell 10:44  Yes, that's the worst thing you could say. That was the episode, that was a great episode.Lesley Logan 10:48  That's a fixed mindset. So, (Brad: Right) I highly recommend, you know, think about listen to the words you're saying, if it's can't, not good enough. I'm not, I don't know enough or (Brad: That's not for me.) That's, um, that's just who I am. (Brad: Yeah) Just explore those. It's okay to like, look, there's like, I'm not like, not a lot of foods are for me, but... Right? So like, that's fine. But, but like this, be mindful of what you're saying about yourself because that fixed mindset could be like, literally starts to limit you. And like limit you in other areas.Brad Crowell 11:23  I think this is a great opportunity to talk about the 'why'. (Lesley: The 'why'?) Yeah, you know, the whys of... Asking yourself the seven why's, (Lesley: Oh yeah) you know, like that this is ...Lesley Logan 11:38  So funny, I just saw him. (Brad: Oh, really?) (Lesley laughs) Yeah. So, so the Seven Layers to Why is from Dean Graziosi. And the most hilarious thing is I just tell Brad, "Hey, I just saw him while I was having breakfast with Kareen in Arizona." (Brad: Ha!) So like, so speaking of Dean, you weren't in that part of the conversation but now you are. It's just like, why do, his is more like, "Why do you wanted this?" Like, "Why do I want to write a book?" "Because I want to get my message out there." "Why don't we get your message out there?" "Because my message can change lives." "Why do you want to change lives?" "Because I grew up with people who told me I couldn't do anything." Like, "Why is that important to you? Why, why?" Why until you get to the whole thing, (Lesley: Yeah) which is like, I don't ever want anyone to ever live in a world where they can't believe in what they do. Like or I don't (Brad: Yeah) like it's not, you know, soBrad Crowell 12:27  It's a fascinating dive into your own thinking and this is actually something that we didn't pick as a talking point but Kasey Jo was talking about researching your own mind and listening to the words that circulate in your own thoughts and then you know, but this researching your own mind that is a great tool, the 'whys' is a great tool to to (Lesley: Yeah) understanding yourself.Lesley Logan 12:56  And you can also go, you can also do the, "Why do I think that? Who told me that?" And that goes (Brad: Yeah) like Thor. Right? When we have that guests Thor, (Brad: Sure) he says, "I can't do that." And and you know, Byron Katie talks about this a lot, where just like, it's like, "Who would you be if you didn't have this fixed mindset? Who would you be if you didn't have the thought you couldn't do the thing?" You'd be the (Brad: Or) person you can do the thing.Brad Crowell 13:14  Or what would the person who could do that thing? What would they be doing? (Lesley: Yeah) Or how would they be thinking?Lesley Logan 13:20  Oh, hey, be it till you see it. (Brad: Hey) I said hey. (Brad laughs) We can just go on and on about this whole thing. It could be, I mean, it should be its own episode, we just had it with Kasey. So at any rate, I think it's a wrap this up a little bow and it kind of leads into your thing. It is okay, if you have a fixed mindset moment, it's going to, you're human being. (Brad: Yeah) What you then need to do is explore that in your mind, in an, in writing, in conversation with others around it so that you can pull it into, so you can pull yourself into a growth mindset aspect. And what will happen is you'll get faster and faster at doing this you're fixed mindset. (Brad: Right. You'll identify it.) might take you six months to get over them but then after that you were able to in six weeks and then in six days and then it's in six minutes. You're like, "Oh what is that thought? Oh hello old thought coming back in. Nice to see you. We don't agree with that anymore." You know, like you get to there's the author of Chatter like people use their own name to talk though to themselves when they were trying to like train a thought over and it you might think a crazy person but you're not like it was actually science around that. So anyways, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with it. Anyways, what did you love?Brad Crowell 14:28  Well, I am so I'm glad we're we're digging into growth versus fixed mindset because I know that's one of the things we talked about so much on the show and in our webinars with Profitable Pilates. But one of the consistently recurring struggles that we've been told people are really digging into is imposter syndrome. And also, I mean or experiencing, not necessarily digging into but experiencing. And I know this is something that I also deal with, you also deal with impostor syndrome. (Lesley: Oh) Right. (Lesley: Yeah) And when we when we talk about impostor syndrome. I know it makes me feel small. Like, it makes me feel like like, "Oh, yeah, you know, like, I'm just not good enough for the thing, or I, why am I? How, why are people listening to me? How (Lesley: Yeah) do I have the authority to do all this kind of stuff?" And one, I want to kind of flip this, the perspective of it. Typically, we associated with fear, negativity. Right?Lesley Logan 15:37  How about we go in, people go into I see it all the time, the people we coach, or even in our OPC group, where they feel like an impostor, they go into like a shame spiral. And then it goes into a fixed mindset. And then it's (Brad: Right) like this whole thing. And it's like, yeah,Brad Crowell 15:47  Well, so I want to flip it, though, because one thing that Kasey Jo mentioned, was having imposter syndrome definitely means you're not a narcissist. (Lesley: Right. So it's not a bad thing.) So it doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. Like (Lesley: Yeah) sometimes, I think it's helpful to acknowledge that, you know, we really do care about our work, we do care that we're conveying a message that is going to be helpful for people and beneficial for people. You know, so it's funny, because everything has a plus and a minus even impostor syndrome.Lesley Logan 16:23  Well, I also think like, it shows you care. (Brad: Yeah) It just shows you care. And also, it might even show you that you know, more because when you know more than you know, you don't know, you don't know. (Brad: Oh, yeah.) Do you know what I mean?Brad Crowell 16:35  That's another that's another thing that two of you talked about.Lesley Logan 16:37  The more that you know, the more you learn what you don't know, and that like (Brad: Yeah) creates his own impo... Like, yeah. It is, like new level, new devil. So you know, I think I love that you brought this up, because I think it's just, it's okay to just call it out. I'm feeling or we do this all the time in the house. (Brad: Yeah) It's like, I'm feeling impostor syndrome around this right now. And then when you pull it out of your head, it's all of a sudden, like, it doesn't actually have the power anymore, doesn't mean you don't have the feelings anymore. But it doesn't have that power. And then you can actually talk about it. And sometimes it can feel really silly, or sometimes it can go, "Oh, it's because I'm not doing this thing over here. Because I'm not doing this thing over here. I have impostor syndrome about this because I don't feel authentic. Okay, so know I know what I need to work on."Brad Crowell 17:21  Yeah, yeah, I mean, and, and one thing you can do is actually write this down. Because I find it a lot easier when I'm looking at something is, then I can, kind of analyze it from the other side. But this is all mindset, right? Like, when you when you're receiving something in and it's negative, well, how do we from an objective perspective, like third party? What if you could stand on the side of yourself and look at this happening to you? How do you look at it and see what could be positive about that? Right? So if you're experiencing impostor syndrome, in a way of like, "I don't know why I'm the one that was picked to teach this class" or something like that, write that down. And then I think that will allow you like, "I don't know why I was picked for this," you know, then it will allow you to go, "Maybe I was picked for this for something else." And you can kind of see that. (Lesley: Yeah) When I'm, when you're looking at it, I find it's easier. And it's this is a very strange internal dialogue. And it's only really started to be available since I started doing journaling. Because I've never really written things down, especially my feelings in that way. Or like what I'm struggling with or worried about. And you know, it when you're just writing it out, suddenly, you can can say, "Alright, well, what if, what if this was a positive for me instead of a negative? How does that look? What is that actually?" (Lesley: Yeah) And then you can focus on that.Lesley Logan 18:52  Yeah, and maybe, maybe write down the questions you're gonna ask yourself, when you're having impostor syndrome, when you're not having it so that you have this list next to your desk. So it's like I don't like then you can like go through the questions that work for you. I really liked that.Cool!All right. So finally, let's talk about those BE IT action items that you covered with Kasey Jo Orvidas. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo? I will jump in right here. And we, I kind of already hit hinted at this actually looks like I ended up both of ours. But researching your thoughts. We were talking about those seven why's. Where did this thought come from? So if you this is the fixed versus open growth, sorry, growth mindsets, right? Where did that thought come from? Was that like something you inherited from a family member or from a teacher from another friend of yours, from an experience that personally happened to you? Why is that thought there? Is that thought really true? What is the evidence for that thought being true? What is the evidence against that thought? And then, you know, be basically like, a researcher of your own mindset, your own mentality. You know, why are you doing the things that you're doing and, and be willing to actually look at it?Yeah, I really love that. I mean, we did this when we were doing the Artist's Way. And like, (Brad: Yeah) I like was like, "Oh, I don't cook." Because of this one time, my grandfather yelled at me about how I made a grilled cheese sandwich. Is that really like, what stopped me from learning how to cook?Brad Crowell 20:34  And also, (Lesley: Like so silly.) Well, it's also, you know, funny, because I think that is a fascinating example. In that you never told me that story before. (Lesley: I know.) And we'd been married for a long time. And I never heard that. And suddenly, through the process of journaling, you were like, "I just remembered something. (Lesley: Yeah) And I wonder, I wonder if this is part of my mindset (Lesley: Yeah) around cooking."Lesley Logan 21:03  Yeah. And you know, I mean, like, and I know that sounds like the Lesley it's just cooking. It's like, yeah, but that stop, that has stopped me from cooking for years, y'all. Like, we're talking Brad goes away. And I'm like, "I think I'm have some almonds for dinner. I think that's good. That's good." (Brad and Lesley laughs) Thank God for Postmates. Okay, here's me ...Brad Crowell 21:23  Well, I just want to give you to a little shout out since discovering that. What were the action items that you took?Lesley Logan 21:31  Oh, I started cooking a new recipe a week from this new co... from this cookbook from a restaurant that I love in Siem Reap. And I would have cooked a new recipe this week. But Brad cooked my cauliflower. And that was supposed to be for cauliflower bites. So we will we will start that when we get back. We will, I will put all of a big fat post it note, "Don't cook this head of cauliflower. It's for my new experiment."Brad Crowell 21:53  That's so funny. I didn't know that. But but but the reason I wanted to keep talking about this is because you identified it. Right? And then you talked about it. And then you made a, you made a decision. (Lesley: Yeah) And you took action and ...Lesley Logan 22:10  Well, it goes into my my BE IT action item. It says, "Write it out. What can you start today?" (Brad: There you go.) And thank you for setting me up for that. (Brad laughs) And so what, that's what I did, like I was like, "Okay, how.." Like, "How can I start something small today?" I don't want to take a cooking class, you all. Like I know I'm on a hobby hunt. That is not something I want. I don't want that kind of pressure. I just wanted it to be fun and easy. And so the first thing I made were these like fudge brownie, there's suppose to be balls, but I made them bites and they are amazing. And so it was like what I looked at all the recipes that I looked at which one would be the easiest one to start with. I did not take on, there was this one that I was like, "I love that recipe." But I didn't take it on because it was like a little bit outside my element. So I took on what I could and so I did write it out. I did look at it. And I thought about like, "Okay, what are some ways I can make this happen?" And you know, we have a lot of people who talk about writing things out in their BE IT action items. And this one was really specific. What can you literally do starting today? And so I feel like that's an even better BE IT action item then just to write it out. It's like, what is it that you can do right now? (Brad: Yeah) Because if you start writing out like, "Oh, I actually could start that one." And like you keep going, you end up getting a step that you can take. And it's going to actually tell your brain, "Oh, growth mindset. I'm taking a step forward in this." (Brad: Right) It's going to be the antidote to fear we talk about in every one of these episodes ...You got the micro win (Lesley: Yeah) that helps you celebrate, (Lesley: Yeah) that helps your mindset. (Lesley: Yeah) Gives you confidence.Yeah, so I've actually like I have I have also been making my own lunch now. Like every like Brad is not (Brad: Yeah) watching me go.Brad Crowell 23:46  And it's actually a real lunch.Lesley Logan 23:47  It is a real lunch. It is, we have more dishes to do every day now. So anyways, that's the other side of that. Well, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 23:56  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 23:57  How are we going to use these tips in your life? Let us know. I want you to screenshot this episode, tag the @be_it_pod, you can now tag @cactus_daddie, can also tag @coachkaseyjo with your takeaways. Please do this. So we know what you're doing. We want to celebrate you. We want to be cheerleaders for you and your DMs because we know how much you need that. I need that. We're all human beings. It's okay to need people to high five you for what you're doing. So tag us and let us know how you're gonna do this and share it with someone else who needs this. If you have a friend in your life who's like, "Ooh, we got to fix mindset that's driving me nuts." Just send them this episode and it'll just you don't have to say anything. It'll just nudge him right along. So thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 24:36  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 24:39  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe. In this episode you will learn about:Finding your missionCreating your reality with your thought processHow to believe you are enough Hypnosis vs hypnotherapy  The line between where your conscious and subconscious The five fears and getting to the other side of the fear wall  OPC Flashcards:OPC Flashcards are on AmazonOPC Flashcards are on our site  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.  ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Social MediaInstagramFacebookTik TokLinkedIn Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:01  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the elevating convo I have with Taylor Carr in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now. Go back and listen to that one. And then come back and join us. (Brad: Join us.) So Brad is going back to Cambodia soon.Brad Crowell 1:07  Yeah, I'm really fired up. I can't wait to be back there. And now that things are settling down with all the travel requirements and all this stuff, you know, plus being vaccinated. You know, basically I get to go fix everything that the jungle has destroyed over the past two years.Lesley Logan 1:27  I know. I'm so jealous and also not because I want to go so bad (I want to go so bad.) But I don't want to fix any doors. (Brad laughs) I just want to be there. So, I'm going to let you and made my Dad, go.Brad Crowell 1:40  I think it's a combination of doors, electricity, washing machine. You know, what has really gone incredibly well in the past two years as we have an incredible building manager who loves gardening. (Lesley: I know.) Loves it. (Lesley: It's a freakin' beautiful.) And she has turned our property into a jungle, all on its own. And it's (Brad laughs) she was just showing us around. (Lesley: I know.) And it was like, "What? There's a tree there now?" (Lesley: Yeah) How that... It's only been two years.Lesley Logan 2:10  Yeah, she planted it two years ago. So that's what happens in the jungle things grow really quickly. (Brad: Pretty cool.) The ear flapping you are hearing is... (Brad: That one was Gaia.) Uh-huh. And Bayon did the ear flap. (Brad: Yeah.) And also... (Brad: He followed.) Oh, we have to put his bed down. That's what's going on here. (Brad: Hmm) Okay, there you go bud. So anyways, um, Brad's gonna be going there. And I don't know, I guess if we haven't recorded episodes while you're gone. I'll just have to have like, past guests take your place.Brad Crowell 2:38  Oh! Or I know, I know one person who volunteered.Lesley Logan 2:42  I know, Clare.Brad Crowell 2:44  Yeah, she's (Lesley: Clare) so excited. She's like ... (Lesley: which is so fitting.) "He could totally take a break and I could take his place. (Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 2:50  Well, and it's so fitting because today's guests we're recapping is actually a friend of Clare Solly. She's the reason (Brad: Oh) why we talked to her. (Lesley laughs) (Brad: How about that?) Yeah. So anyways, well Brad can do that. And then we'll hopefully be back to tell you about some amazing retreats we're gonna have in Cambodia soon.Brad Crowell 3:09  Yeah, (Lesley: fingers crossed) we're planning one towards the end of this year. So stay tuned. If you're interested in more info on that. Go to onlinepilatesclasses.com/retreats. (Lesley: Mm-hmm, yeah) And you will be sent to the waitlist.Lesley Logan 3:24  Wonderful. Did we have an audience question this week?Brad Crowell 3:27  We totally did. Which is a really a great question. Somebody DMed saying, "I'm working on knowing my mission. Is there a specific episode on the @be_it_pod covering this subject? If so, which one? If not, would you please record one?"Lesley Logan 3:43  Well, luckily, we have some episodes that are gonna be, really great. And, and again, this dogs are doing things they were sleeping until we hit record and then of course (Brad: Literally, yeah.) they are like, "Oh, we should make noise in all the rooms." (Brad laughs) So anyways, here are the episodes for you who was wanting to know about know your mission. Sandra Chuma, episode 17.Brad Crowell 4:06  Yeah, she talked about, "How do you know if you've been chasing the wrong thing?"Lesley Logan 4:11  Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I really love how she discovered that for herself. And I think it's a really inspiring story. And ...Brad Crowell 4:17  Well, I think it's inspired how she discovered it was through a full blown breakdown. So that part of it not so fun, but, you know, the advice that came from that, fantastic.Lesley Logan 4:29  Yeah, but I think also like, you're not supposed to take anyone's rock bottoms away. So you know, like that is, yeah, so I think it's really great. I hope the person listening to this is not trying to hit a rock bottom to find their mission, but there you go. Okay, so then we have Kareen Walsh, episode 27 - "Is your hustle now just a hassle?"Brad Crowell 4:50  Yeah, anything that comes to like business or mission or future, you know, like, like trying to figure things out. We we always go back to Kareen. She is one of our coaches. Oh, my goodness, she is just brilliant.Lesley Logan 5:08  She really is. So listen to her on that and then dive into all of the two things like go to both those ladies on Instagram and just deep dive on them. And (Brad: Yeah) I promise you, you'll be like, "Oh, oh, yeah, this will actually be ..." (Brad: They'll be like, "Oh.") Oh, (Brad: Oh) Oh. Anyways, (Brad laughs)Brad Crowell 5:25  I love it. All right. Now let's talk about Taylor Carr. Taylor Carr is a clinical hypnotherapist and a success and manifestation coach. After healing herself from an incredibly incurable, an incurable disease, (say that three times fast) (Lesley: I know) in her early 20s, she dove into the world of natural healing and discovered the law of attraction, energy, mindfulness, sensual healing and the power of the subconscious mind. She now helps people around the world infuse their work with the feminine, and create the success, confidence and love they desire. So this was a very interesting episode to listen to her, talk about how she really felt like the, the, you know, life had pulled the rug out from her (Lesley: Yeah) in her early 20s. When she was like just getting to LA, it was just about to go do her thing. And then it was like, "Congratulations, incurable disease."Lesley Logan 6:21  I mean, but also talk about another week of like things happening for you. Because if she hadn't gone through that she would never have made that video and then she wouldn't be on the path that she is. And now she loved what she's doing. And so it is, you know, you can like, "Woe is me." And just like go, "have an incurable disease," or you could take some action and, and go for it. And it's just kind of it's really inspiring.Brad Crowell 6:44  Well, I mean, she said it, she actually said, it's the best thing that ever happened to her. And I thought, wow, that ... that is an incredibly powerful statement to to hear, "I had an incurable disease and it's the best thing that ever happened to me." (Lesley: Yeah. And I ...) Changed her life dramatically.Lesley Logan 7:01  We have an episode come out in a couple of weeks, where and another similar thing like, injury illness issue that like, basically put her on the path to her career. So super excited to hear that. So, I really loved that she taught ... just about so many things. There's so many things. Of course, I am a SHE-EO, working on it. (Brad laughs) You know, (Brad: Heck yeah) even though I'm not the CEO, but I want to be a SHE-EO. Yeah. But I really did love the knowing you are enough. You're strong enough, you're courageous enough and you can get through it. And I think like, if you are like, "Yeah, yeah, people say that time." No, like, would help. Like, I just finished with Elevate weekend number two, and I had them, we had them on, we had them on mute and I did a breathwork session with them. I had them to say out loud because no one can hear them but themselves, "I am enough," over and over again. And you know how hard it was for them to say it. Some of them were not saying as I can read lips. Either move your lips or you're not moving your lips. And when they started even to saying that, "I am enough." That's when it gets really emotional. Like when you actually say the words out loud, not in your head out loud. And so I think, um ...Brad Crowell 8:06  "I'm enough."Lesley Logan 8:07   Mm-hmm. Yeah. And say it again, (Brad: I'm enough.) And again, (Brad: I'm enough.) And like, things change in your body like ...Brad Crowell 8:14  ... (Lesley: Right) I literally feel like it does ... that was weird. (Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 8:20  Right. It's like, it's like, it's like, all of a sudden, it's you are, and now you can't unfeel that and you can't unknow that. You can pretend, (Brad: Yeah) you can pretend and then that's when things get out of alignment.Brad Crowell 8:31  It's very vulnerable.Lesley Logan 8:33  Yeah, I know. I know. So, but, but that's like, hello, St. Brené - vulnerability is the way. Like, so I just I really love that she brought that up because I think if if even if nothing else resonate with ... in her interview with you like just trying each day to just tell yourself you are enough and remember that (Brad: Yeah) you are going to be, you're going to be unstoppable, unstoppableBrad Crowell 8:58  I think that's where the lipstick on the mirror kind of thing comes into play, you know. When you wake up in the morning and it's written right there, you literally cannot avoid it. You can't, you can't unsee that. And you know when I think that it will strike a chord with you again, each time you see it. You know, having gone through that vulnerability with yourself.Lesley Logan 9:21  Yeah, yeah, and maybe I'm gonna change I was just thinking I was saying that like as I pour the water from our new pot that takes over a minute and I had to switch my morning routine because it takes a minute to pour this water. I don't know why it takes a minute but it does. So I started doing a gratitude practice while I'm like, "Okay, I'm really grateful for this." And I'm like, "Do you like know how many gratitude you can put in a minute? A lot even talk slow." So ...Brad Crowell 9:44  It's got the gooseneck, (Lesley: It's really beautiful.) a thing. And it's, it is but ...Lesley Logan 9:48  And it heats water up so fast. I love it. But (Brad: Yeah) anyways, I think I'm gonna write out a bunch (Brad laughs) of like these mantras and put them on the frigerator and then as I'm pouring to say those because (Brad: That's cool.) that I think I've been doing my gratitudes and my morning pages. And so now I'm like, "Well, I already did my gratefulness." And so now I'm just watching water pour (Brad laughs) We're changing it up. Thank you, Taylor. All right, what did you love?Brad Crowell 10:14  Okay. Well, okay, so she kind of glossed over this in the middle of the interview, but I, I latched on to it because I didn't quite follow it. And I literally pulled up a bunch of, you know, "Doing what Brad does." I Googled a bunch of shit. And I came back and I was like, "Okay, this is way more clear to me now. And I wanted to pass this along." So she talked about stage hypnosis. Right? And then, and I was a little confused, because I thought, like, that's what she was saying that she does. And I started reading stage hypnosis versus, you know, and then it came down. There's hypnosis and there's hypnotherapy. (Lesley: Okay) Right? And so the stage hypnosis is what you might see in the movies, it's more of an entertainment kind of thing. And I copied all this down here because I'm not an authority on the subject. So according to hypnotic.com - A stage hypnotist aims to put on a show for the volunteers and audience to have fun, have a fun, entertaining time and stage hypnotists give suggestions that only last for the duration of the show. And then they are removed after the volunteers are awakened at the end. Right? As opposed to what Taylor Carr does and what she is, she's actually a Clinical Hypnotherapist. And so it's, it's it's almost, it's a similar methodology. But it's got a completely different end game. It's completely different purpose. Right? A hypnotherapist gives suggestions that are intended to remain beyond the session. Post hypno... hypnotic suggestion this is again, according to hypnotic.com. In order that the client experiences long term change in various aspects of his or her life. And as, as Taylor actually put it, hypnotherapy aims to take long term effects, it takes roughly 20 minutes or so to get into the wavelength right before you sleep, you feel really safe, you're and this is where when your subconscious mind is actually able to come forward and really absorb the line, she says is at that point that the line between the conscious and the subconscious dissolves. And then what she does when you are in that state as her client, all the conversations that the two of you had discussed about the things that you're struggling with or that you want to feel. She is then basically telling your subconscious, those things which are kind of like what we just did. "I am enough." (Lesley: Yeah) "I am enough." Right? But the point is to do it when you're in that, that like phase between conscious and subconscious, so that you're speaking directly to your subconscious and and it can be absorbed. Right? So she then regurgitates the words back into their subconscious mind that they've told her that they want to feel.Lesley Logan 13:13  That is, um, I really am grateful. This is our second hypnotherapist we've had on and now I feel like I understand. Now, I feel like I understand hypnotherapy even more. And I mean, it does make me think of like the office, not the office. What's the movie called? The Case of the Mondays. So also the office? (Brad: I have no idea.) Everyone listening knows but you know, like, he was put into hypno...nosis and the guy was like, you know, telling them like all these amazing things to remember. And then the hypnotherapist had a heart attack and died and like left them in that state. He like slept for like days. It was not the office the show, but it was like a movie - Office Space.Brad Crowell 13:55  Oh, it's Office Space. It's the beginning of (Lesley: Yes) Office Space.Lesley Logan 13:57  Yes, yes. So now I feel like I understand that whole scene more. (Brad laughs) I feel like ... but life is complete. Okay, well, I love, I think there's just go back and listen, if you haven't listened episode, there's so many other points in there because she really does like tell you a lot of things about what she's doing and how she got there. (Brad: Yeah) I think people will resonate with different talking points. And so I love to hear which one you resonate with.Brad Crowell 14:24  Alright, so finally let's talk about those BE IT action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Taylor Carr? I'm going to jump right in and say she talked about evaluating your thoughts because they create your reality. So she said looking at your, look at your thoughts to change your reality because thoughts create your feelings and your feelings create your reality. And this, I read this, resonated with me I really connected with this because when I was younger, I I had, like a whole sequence of like, you know, then it turns into what you speak, you know. So you're like, your thoughts create your feelings, and then your feelings are creating reality. But your, your thoughts are creating your feelings, your feelings are going to change how you speak. Right? And your, the way you speak is what comes into existence and it becomes the reality that you're that you're creating. So it's kind of, it's kind of crazy to (Lesley: Yeah) think about that.Lesley Logan 15:27  It's like a whole confirmation bias, you just put yourself in a loop and you just stay there and (Brad: Yeah) you prove yourself correct. And so then it becomes a belief (Brad: Yeah) that is really hard to undo.Brad Crowell 15:37  Yeah, so if you know, like, like, mull that over, like, think about that, how do we, how we think ultimately shapes our own reality. Right? And so what influences how we think?Lesley Logan 15:53  Well, things that we hear, things that we see, people we hang out with, you know ...Brad Crowell 15:57  Yeah like everything that we're influenced by, whether that's from, you know, TV, to books, to magazines, to movies, to you know, people to where we you know, how we grew up, you know, the environments that we put ourselves in, all of that stuff shapes how we think. So it's very, very, (Brad laughs) I mean there could be a whole podcast on literally this topic, (Lesley: I know. Let's find the guest.) all by itself.Lesley Logan 16:20  Anyways, I real... I agree, I like that one to. (Brad: Yeah) My BE IT action item that I loved is leaving fear behind and doing the thing anyway. She said, "You're never going to be ready. If you wait to be ready, you'll wait for your entire life." I think, like that. I think that you wait so long that it goes by whatever you were trying to be ready for. And so you're like, "Oh, I can't do that. Now. It's been done by a million people. No one wants it anymore." And so then you, then you're almost scared with another idea like you and going back into the (Brad: Yeah) this like vortex you put yourself in and you ... (Brad: Right) The reality is is that like, you know, you're just gonna be ...Brad Crowell 16:21  What exactly this, it ties in directly to what we just talked about.Lesley Logan 16:30  Yeah, you're you're gonna be scared. You're doing something that you've never done before. You're going to be scared. If you're not scared. You should go see someone I think you might be like a sociopath, narcissist, psychopath. Like, there's something else going on there, you know, like to tell like, I know if you've listened to podcasts ever before. You've heard me say it. But like, I literally do things scared. I'm scared all the time. I'm afraid it's gonna be like, like when Maya Angelou said that quote, like, "Someday, they're gonna find out that I'm talking about." I'm like, "Yep, all the time." (Lesley laughs) And I'm like, "If Maya Angelou was afraid of being found out," then like, y'all, like, she was one of those confident, powerful, like women in the world, right? So I think we've just need to get over the fact that you're just not going to feel ready, you're going to be scared and like, okay, but how, like, what is something you can do to get over that and practice doing that? Because everything you want is on the other side of fear. You remember that guy, Michael Goodman, I think we talked two years ago, and you talked about the five years, we were in that one coaching group with Lori and Chris. And he came on and talked about the five fears. And, and I think you've been said like, "I don't think I'm afraid of anything." I think like he figured out like you were and like because we all have it. But he said, "Literally think of fear as like a wall. And on the other side of that wall is everything you want. And all you have to do is face the fear and you can climb the wall, and you get the thing." But like, we're literally just sitting there on this side of the wall, like hanging out with our fear, instead of having the thing that we want to have on the other side of the (Brad: Hmm) wall. Seek to climb the wall. And then so I just I think like, please, please, please, whatever you're afraid of doing, like just do it. What's the worst case scenario? Probably that no one even knows you did it? Probably like, like, I mean, like, just give it a try and see what happens if as long as you're not gonna die. You're gonna be here another day to try it. (Brad: Yeah, yeah) That's a really ... (Lesley laughs) stiff type duck, you're not gonna be dead. So you can (Brad laughs) still (Brad: So you might as well just try.) might as well try it. (Brad: ... you're not gonna die.) You're not gonna die, (Brad: So, you know,) and then do it again because you didn't die. (Brad and Lesley laughs) Well, they get it, they get it.Brad Crowell 16:30  Yeah. I have 100% like, no recollection of that conversation with that guy. (Lesley: I know. I'm looking at you.) I don't know who even that is.Lesley Logan 19:15  Guys, I'm looking at him. And I like kept telling the story thinking that it would come. (Brad: No ...) I was in Australia in a hotel room, you were in LA. And I'm going to pull up my notes because I took all these notes. He had the five fears. He's five fears. You're scared of fear of rejection, fear of success, fear of responsibility, fear of failure, fear of loss. And like ...Brad Crowell 19:36  Hmm. I'm impress she just rattle those up.Lesley Logan 19:37  I share them all the time. I share them all the time, every single fear you have falls under one of those categories. (Brad: Hmm) You know what, let's reach out to Michael Goodman say, "Hey, remember, like three years ago when you gave a free talk in another group. (Brad laughs) We want to have you back for a free talk on these things?" (Brad: Yeah.) All right. (Brad: We're bring him on the pod.) Someone on the team needs to find Michael Goodman. I'm sure that's a very common name. (Lesley laughs) We'll get on it. (Brad: I'm in) Anyway. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 20:02  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:03  Thank you for so much for joining us today. We're so grateful you're here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Let us know by send us a DM on the pod on Instagram. Tag us, tag Taylor Carr, text it to a friend. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 20:16  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 20:19  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. 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What does the crow symbolize for LL and Brad? Listen to today's episode as they talk about not giving a fuck, dealing with overwhelm, and how to find your spirit animal. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Dealing with overwhelm Focusing on one thing at a timeGetting a spirit animalBeing authentically you, knowing not everyone will like youThe reverse chess game Episode References/Links:Scheduling tool  OPC Flashcards:OPC Flashcards are on AmazonOPC Flashcards are on our site  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.  ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Social MediaInstagramFacebookTik TokLinkedIn Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:01  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the energizing convo I have with Jeanieva Faith in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, feel free to pause this now go back and listen to that one thing, then come back and join us or do this and then go back. You know, just let it play while you're cleaning your house. You do you. (Brad: do this, do that). Do that. Let us know how you like to do it. Do like a little recap first or the interview first? I'm intrigued. So y'all as you are listening to this, if you're listening to it on the day it comes out or the days it comes out. We are actually finally launching our scheduling tool. It is. (Brad: It's happening) Holy frickin moly. (Brad: Yep) So we actually were hoping to do this in October and then (Brad: November) November and (Brad: then December) December. And it's now happened on January 30th. Holy, I'm so excited. We've been really working so hard. Our partners in crime with this tool are freakin phenomenal. They have thought of everything like.Brad Crowell 1:46  This. The software itself, the app itself is like it's incredible. It's really impressive.Lesley Logan 1:52  It is amazing. (Brad: Yeah) It is amazing. And I wish I had known about it when I was looking for a scheduling tool. So (Lesley laughs) So anyways, they uhm, they have partnered with us to make it so perfect for the Pilates businesses out there that we know so well. And I'm putting little coaching videos for you in there. So (Bread: Yeah), you get little doses of like advice on what you should be doing when it comes to memberships or not memberships orBrad Crowell 2:18  Invoices (Lesley: Invoices) or chat tool, or online,Lesley Logan 2:22  I got some upsell coaching tips in there, (Brad: Yeah) which I've always really wanted people to pay attention to. So anyways, if you go to profitablepilates.com/schedulingBrad Crowell 2:31  profitablepilates.com/scheduling Lesley Logan 2:35  True. Sign up for I'm doing a free webinar, because in honor of launching this app, I'm wanting to teach you all how to actually schedule your life. So that what you want to have in it is in it and how you can work on your business. And I'm just so freakin stoked. So it's a free workshop. It's one of my favorite ones to do. And then we're going to show you how this tool is going to help you make what I just taught you happen. So anyways, whether or not you're interested in the tool, you should just come to that because I'm literally going to teach you (Brad: Yep) how to time but also you should come because the tool is pretty freakin cool.Brad Crowell 3:09  I meant I think it's great. (Lesley: Yeah)Lesley Logan 3:11  Okay, well, now, what is our audience question?Brad Crowell 3:16  Okay, this week, we had a fun one, which is uhm ...(Brad laughs) people always ask us, How do we do all the things? And in this week, they were specifically referring to how do you work on two projects or businesses? Without getting overwhelmed?Lesley Logan 3:32  You're gonna get overwhelmed ...(Lesley laughs) (Brad: Yeah)Brad Crowell 3:36  I think that overwhelm is nothing to do with the project at hand. I think it's actually the way that we approach life.Lesley Logan 3:44  I feel like we just told people Santa doesn't exist. "And I'm so sorry, if your kids are in the car. I hope you're wearing headphones", anyways, (Brad: what?) though. Well, because it's like, I think people think that like people are doing it all, magically or without overwhelm. And the pull back the curtain thing is, is that you get overwhelmed. (Brad: Yeah) And then you make changes. And then you're on this new level, which means new devil, and eventually you hit overwhelm again. And so first of allBrad Crowell 4:11  I also think that it's, that's where that's why I think that, you know, if you keep bumping up against overwhelm, is if you take take the equation, there the the two things that are the recurring theme in that is you and overwhelm, right? So it actually has nothing to do with the thing that you're working on. This is actually a mental exercise that we end up building up to this like, explosion point, and then we go back and it's a cyclical thing, and it can be applied to anything that you happen to be working on.Lesley Logan 4:45  Okay, two things has made me think of. One, you get to choose how you see the situation you're in. So you can continue to see it as I'm overwhelmed. Or you can see it as a teaching tool for how you got there so that you can make changes. And so it's a choice. So you can do that. Second, be mindful of when you're saying you're overwhelmed. Is this another version of procrastination, aka perfectionism. So those are a couple things. The other thing I will say is, you know, Brad, and I have one of our podcast, guests, Kareen Walsh, treated us to the Human Design test. And we (Brad: Yeah) are both generators. So if you're wondering how we do it all, like, inherently, we're born to do that. We also have a team of 20. And we have this many people, because every time we hit overwhelm, we figured out how can we at this now that we're at this point, what needs to be outsourced? So really, when I'm at overwhelmed right now, and I'm at it, because a lot of things are happening all at once, and I have a vacation coming up. So I'm very excited about that. However, another thing that we will say from experience is be really mindful if you're trying to grow two things at once, from start, because it's just you cannot do it.Brad Crowell 5:59  I think that if we were to go back and do it all over again, we would have picked one. (Lesley: Yeah) of the three companies that we run, (Lesley: yeah.) And it would have been, it would have made everything a lot easier. Because think about it, if you let's just say that you have like, let's say you're an idea machine, like Lesley is an ideas machine. And if you decide to, you know, act on all those ideas at the same time, you're going to have a lot of slow progress. And that is basically what we've been doing for years, now. If we had been able to take one thing, really focus on that and catapult it forward. Get market share lots of users make a bunch of money, etc, etc, etc. Once we have would have had a team infrastructure, all of this thing in place for that one amazing thing. Imagine then, adding a second thing to that one thing, where you already have a huge client base, a huge thing, whatever. Like, it's just a better way to do it. (Lesley: yes) And And here, I know, like, you know, there's a fear of what if somebody has my idea? Well pick the better of the two ideas of focus on that one.Lesley Logan 7:13  And also read the book, Big Magic, like ideas want to be born, and it's okay, if someone has no idea, even if you act on your idea, you know, it's still gonna be different. So don't worry about that too much. Please don't ever ask me like, which one will we've chosen? Don't make me choose my babies. But but it is true. Like we we definitely have a lot going on, we've had to hire for that. And when we hit overwhelm, we figure out what is the root cause? How can we change that? And then we start thinking like, well, when can we change that. So that also helps because it's like a light at the end of the tunnel, like a light at the end of the tunnel. It's like, "oh, okay, if I just get to that point, then we can bring on." So we're at the point where we're bringing on someone else to help me because I've hit the I've hit the ceiling again.Brad Crowell 7:37  We can get specific. So Lesley, if you don't know, has for, I don't know, almost 10 years, basically been writing everything. (Lelsey: I write everything.) So emails, like newsletter, emails, blog posts, descriptions for everything, all all of the social media.Lesley Logan 8:21  Every class description, every YouTube tutorial, every flashcard, every newsletter for all three companies, uhm ...(Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 8:28  And what I'm not kidding (Lesley: all social media for three Instagrams), Yeah, ...(Lesley laughs) like years ago, when we were trying to figure out, you know, like, how do we figure, you know, how do we describe ourselves? I literally used to introduce her as an author and a writer. Yeah, that's funny, right? Because we all think of her as Pilates. But the amount of writing that she was doing was as much, if not more than teaching, you know, and that was kind of that was kind of amazing. And what we've effectively identified is that right now, today, a lot of her time is still going towards writing. And that's where she needs to be uninterrupted. Don't bother me, I gotta focus, I need an hour, any two hours, any three hours to get this stuff done.Lesley Logan 8:35  We literally have a light that I turn on that says, "sssssh" ...(Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 9:12  So what we've identified now is, wouldn't it be really cool if we had someone help? You know, with this kind of stuff, you know, someone that could, you know, help with maybe writing a newsletter on her behalf or something to that extent?Lesley Logan 9:26  So Brad's been writing the newsletter. (Brad: So, yeah) ...(Brad laughs)Brad Crowell 9:29  So the temporary solution is that I'm writing the newsletter.Lesley Logan 9:33  You know what, I love the people, okay, here, I'm just gonna side note. Every person I've talked to like on the phone, or in person, they're like, Oh, my God, I'm getting newsletters from Brad. I love it. And I'm like, I've been writing to you for years, (Brad laughs) You haven't said anything you've ever said. I love it. No... (Brad: Smallest violin.) But anyways, yes, Brad is correct. So we're at the point where I need someone to do some transcribing of some lives that I do. (Brad: Yeah)Just to help out and effectively, you know, she was talking about outsourcing. But we now it's insourcing because we're bringing them on the team, and they'll be actually part of the team.So if you are, if you're a copywriter. (Brad: Yeah) And you you like to say the F word a lot, but not on paper ...(Brad laughs) I'm really interested in talking to you. But anyways, that's a great question. And I, I, I am so sorry that we couldn't just say just get over, you can do it. I would love to it'd be so much easier. But the reality is, is overwhelm is such a great, it's almost like a flashlight of "Do you really want to be doing this?" If yes, then what do you have to do to like make room from the ceiling and the crown of your head so you're not so overwhelmed? (Brad: And if no?), stop. ...(Lesley laughs) Stop full permission to quit. Oh my god, we can quit things people we can. Okay, so this is so fun. Thanks for that question.Brad Crowell 10:56  Yeah that's a good question.Lesley Logan 10:57  You can send your questions into the Be It pod on Instagram, or send us your bold moments. We really, really really love hearing how you use our guests, be it action items or just like anything, just tell us what your boldness is. We, I want to be inspired.Brad Crowell 11:14  Okay, now let's talk about Jeanieva Faith. As the ultimate creator of safe spaces, Jeanieva Faith is a Reiki Master Teacher, founder of Tales from the Stripped and is a heartbreak/ breakup coach. That was kind of cool. (Lesley: I think that was everyone needs one of those). Yeah, from dancing your way to confidence to working with your energy. Jeanieva helps individuals get bold and honor every piece of their story.Lesley Logan 11:43  Ah, well, I really enjoyed her. I said this on the pod. I met her through a random panel that I was on for Jonah Vargas. And I was like, "Oh my God, a Reiki person in real life" ...(Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 11:57  IRL Reiki? ...(Brad laughs) (Lesley: Oh my God...)Lesley Logan 12:00  Like, what do you what it's like a unicorn, and she had pink hair. So it's like a unicorn. Um, but I really, I have to be honest, I really loved when she talked about meeting your spirit and all because you also know this, but okay, I'm gonna take you back in time. It's 2008 and I'm becoming a pilates instructor and I am driving across town from Venice to Beverly Hills. For those you know, LA no one really does that, but yes, I used to cross the 405 I was not AWOL. And I would go to Beverly Hills, and I was driving. And it was early in the morning. And these, this murder of crows (Brad: murder) flew in front of my car, as I'm driving. And I was like, "Oh my God!", and I like didn't hit any of them. But I was like, "that was so close". And then one boomerang back. And I swear I had to look back at my rearview mirror, make sure they're flying away. And it really like, it's so weird, like pigeons flying for your car, all the things, squirrels and you don't go "oh my god". I mean, it's like you don't want to hit them. But like this one, I got to the studio. And the client that I was teaching that day, it was the first time I was meeting her. And something came up about weird things in the morning. I said the weirdest thing just happened to me and I told her the story and she is a medium. And she said oh, I think you just met your spirit animal. And I was like "a crow? aren't like those like for like witches" like I don't understand. Anyways, I look up crows. They are frickin the best spirit animal like really, really awesome. They're so freakin smart. And so I got really excited. So every time I saw crows, I was like, Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Okay, fast forward years later, a lot of years later, what is this? 2008 So now in 2013. I meet Brad. We don't get to dating until 2014. So it's like November of 2014. We're going to Raine's wedding. Do you remember this, Brad? (Brad: Yeah), those are my dog's ears. (Brad: Santa Barbara) So we're in Santa Barbara, going this wedding. And we're walking down State Street and there is a black raven painted on a doorway. And Brad says to me, I always thought I'd have like a company called like the white Raven. And I was like, oh, yeah, (Brad: I do remember that) You remember that? Yeah, that's so cool. And so anyways like ravens look like crows. Okay, anyways, if you haven't looked at how Brad spells his last name, it's crow. E L L? Okay, now, here we go. That night after the wedding. We're in this hotel in Santa Barbara. It's freaking awesome. I have a dream of a crow flying through the air with the ribbon LL out of its mouth. And Brad and I had agreed that I would never bring up marriage however we were at a wedding. I didn't bring it up. He got invited by my friend. Okay, but I had to tell him this dream because I was like that's so weird. So then I told him about this dream with the CROW and the ribbon at... do you remember this? I told about this like the ribbon is spelling LL, if you look at his last name, CROW e LL So he looks like an en passant LL, my initials. Alright, you're still with me? You're still with me. So then when he finally proposed to me because he got his shit together and he figured out that like I'm the best. Brad Crowell 14:53  Oh, yes. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Right, right. (Lesley: Yeah, I'm the best) ...(Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 14:59  We, we were getting my plan for our wedding. And for whatever reason we decided to get tattoos because we thought that would be a genius. It is genius. Anyways, we got a CROW with the LL spelled out well.Brad Crowell 15:12  I can jump in on that because my so my cousin is an artist, she's a painter. And so I reached out to her and explained to her, Hey, would you be able to do like a watercolor of a crow holding a ribbon blowing out with an LL in the back? And so she, you know, sent over a draft I was like, "Yeah, that's really cool." And she and she painted it. Yeah. And then that actually is what turned into the tattoo.Lesley Logan 15:40  And then it also became a tattoo at our wedding because everyone got to have their own fake tattoo version. (Brad: yeah temporary tattoos) That's a different story. Later anyways. Now, Brad has a company called As The Crows Fly. It's not white Raven, but it's pretty freakin close. So y'all, this story all the say is, you may have met your spirit animal. And if you have, I highly suggest you go through the research of it. And if you haven't, pay attention, it's probably like pick pick, pick, pick, pick or flying in front of your car, or I don't know. But they're these. These are little they're signs everywhere. And I know this can get really woowoo. This is a one whoo show and I frickin love it. So get your spirit animal. Okay, what did you love it? She said ...(Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 16:27  I forgot we're doing a podcast right, okay. All right.Lesley Logan 16:32  But don't you think it's crazy? You wanted to have a business about a Raven. And now you have a whole company called As The Crows Fly (Brad: It's true) We have retreat space. We named a road in Cambodia. Like you couldn't have crow any you like, where else do you want it? ...(Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 16:48  Okay, I really loved when she very in an offhand way. Said you know, Reiki is not religion. Reiki has no deity. (Lesley: I think it's cool. I didn't know that.) I didn't know that. I it's it's a Japanese art form. Right? And basically, it's an energy exchange. Right. And, and I, I don't know, I just, she said, I grew up in a very Christian world, you know, and then, you know, but this effectively put me in touch with my emotional side, you know, my energy side in a way that, you know, there is no conflict between the religion that she has, and the practice of Reiki that she has. And, and she didn't really go too in depth into this, but that I heard that whole thing. And I walked away with that, because I always thought it was kind of weird. And I didn't really know anything about it. And I just was like, Well, you know, I don't whatever that is, I don't know if I'm down with all that.Lesley Logan 17:53  Well, cuz, it's, I mean, like, I don't know, you saw the craft as our first date, everyone. (Brad: Oh, yeah. Okay.) It's like, you know, "why's a feather stiff as a board"? And it's like hands over a body. And so people can think of Reiki as like some sort of like, weird craft, but like, it has no deity so it isn't it like and I do think for those people who are Christian, we have lots of Christian listeners, Brad and I went to Christian colleges, by the way, you wouldn't know by my foul mouth, but I did And i ...(Lesley laughs), and I you know, I struggle a bit because I like to, I like to tell my parents like you can be Christian and Buddhists and they get stuck on the on the idol. They get stuck on the god, they get stuck on that and like, and Reiki doesn't have that. So like, I think dive all in go find a Reiki instructor or call Jeanieva. I think she has it virtually too. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't wanna put words in her mouth. Brad Crowell 18:41  Well, anyway, I thought that was actually really surprising. I didn't, I didn't know that. So I'm very excited to have listened to her talk about her experience, and how, you know, Reiki has helped her really stay more in touch with her emotional side.Lesley Logan 19:01  Well, and in all this, it's so funny, because it's, I don't know, it's like what you pay attention to, but I'm doing this training on breathwork. And it's trauma informed. And we spend a lot of frickin time with our emotions, like a lot. It's not something I love to do. And and then, you know, I of course, I found her before I even started this program. And I actually think that the, like, the keys to like, peace and love are just a lot of people getting in touch with their emotions. And so if you are struggling with that, and you don't like therapy doesn't sound like you know, as fun as doing laundry. Like we like to say then I highly recommend checking in with a Reiki instructor because you've got to get in touch with those emotions, y'all. SoBrad Crowell 19:46  Yeah. All right. So finally, let's talk about the big action items. What bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items, can we take away from your conversation with Jeanieva Faith? I'm gonna jump in here and say, have an "I don't give a fuck attitude." I kind of thought this was cool her ... (Lesley: I don't give a fuck, I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna give a fuck) ...(Lesley laughs)But the you know, she said this is something her teacher said because it would bring her the people, friends clients, you know things into her life that she wants around her. And, well, I think that,Lesley Logan 20:31  Well, it just helps you show up more authentically yourself. And that's the hardest part because people say, like, people say all the time, just be your authentic self. Just be your authentic self. (Brad: I mean, in fact, I think that like) Good luck without giving a fuck.Brad Crowell 20:43  A couple of, yeah, right. A couple of episodes ago, I think I said, How do you even do that? Because you have to know yourself, if you're going to show up authentic, you know, as yourself authentically. And that's hard to you know, admit who you are to yourself. (Lesley: Well you might like parts of you. And that's actually okay.) Right. Yeah, sure. And I guess that some people who don't give a fuck still don't like parts of themselves. But I think that if you I don't, I don't say this in a way. That's like, you know, don't have, you know, a moral compass or don't have any of that kind of thing. But I do. Like, it's not like you're, you know, out to hurt other people and you (Lesley: Right) and you're not caring for other people. But having an "I don't give a fuck" about the way you're perceived in the actions that you're doing, is a very freeing thing. Because when you are, if you're constantly worried about how people are thinking about you, you're going to do you know, you're going to act according to how you think they're thinking about you, which is like a reverse chess game ...(Lesley laughs) It's so it's so funny. People are like, I don't play chess, like you fucking do every day with the way you you carry yourself around people. You're acting in a way that you're imagining they're thinking about you. (Lesley: Stop right now. That's so freakin brilliant). It's like, you know, so anyway, if you what if you didn't care about the way that they think about you, then you could just be. Lesley Logan 20:50  Well, okay. Oh my god, my mind is blown right now.(Brad laughs) my like, you know, and all the ideas hit like I have a crash course on ideas in my brain right now. But here's what I think is thank you for prefacing, like this is not a "I'm going to hurt people because I don't give an F." This is not like, you know, throw two sheets to the wind and just do whatever you want to do. It is though, recognizing that you are not a taco and not everyone's going to like you ...(Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 22:40  I love that you keep coming back to this.Lesley Logan 22:41  This is well you know what my friend Kara Lamb I don't know if she listens to this, but I'll have to let her know. She wrote I just don't trust people who don't like tacos. Just don't trust people don't like tacos. And I was like people don't like tacos? You can have a taco made of Hickok like there's not like there's so many flavors of tacos out there. But I say this because I wish I had been told not everyone will like you when I was growing up. I would have not become a perfectionist. I would have not tried to go okay, how do I make sure I don't step on anyone's eggshells. Like how do I like make things like so precious? Like so? We're trying to find different ways of making you understand like not giving a fuck is not hurting people but most importantly is especially not hurting yourself because you playing chess like Brad was saying, like it's like reverse Yoda. What does that whole thing? It's like reverse reverse. Reverse psychology and reverse. So ...(Lesley laugsh) but I just I you are right. It was a couple weeks ago where like how do you know how to be authentically you? And I really do think it's like just being okay, that not everyone's gonna like you. But most importantly try to really like yourself and show up as that person. (Brad: Yeah) Like at the end of the day. Did you like how you are today? That is like the simplest way of not giving an F. Brad Crowell 23:54  That's pretty powerful.Lesley Logan 24:00  Thanks. Anyways, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 24:03  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 24:04  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to use these Be It action items in your in your life, I for sure want to know Brad wants to know (Brad: I want to know) we're gonna you're gonna do is you're gonna screenshot this, you're gonna tag us to be at pod and you're going to tell us your bold moment where you didn't give an F and you are authentically yourself or what you learned about yourself. If you have questions send to the Be It pod, and until next time, we'll catch on the next episode. (Brad: Bye for now.)That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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What is a brand without a business? How can you read a book without ever opening the front page? Today LL and Brad discuss their celebrations from 2021, various aspects of branding, and how success has to be defined by you. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The celebrations of 2021Reframing your mindset to accomplish a Ta-DaBranding even without a business The emotional side of brandingWhat success means for youEpisode References/Links:Tour InfornmationNEW scheduling programMini'sGuest Bio:From a former Disney movie marketing executive to a brand and messaging strategist for entrepreneurs - Hilary Hartling helps entrepreneurs infuse meaning into their brands. She is an incredible thought leader, business women, new mom of Ruby, and the master of using Ta-Da lists for success.   OPC Flashcards:OPC Flashcards are on AmazonOPC Flashcards are on our site  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookTik TokLinkedIn Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:01  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.(Brad laughs) Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the deliberate convo I had with Hilary Hartling in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, that interview, go back, listen to it. It's friggin' cool and you'll see why we said it's deliberate. And you can pause and then come back to this one when you're ready or listen to this one decide if you want to listen to a deliberate conversation it's up to you.Brad Crowell 1:11  I, I kind of want to explain, why deliberate? (Lesley: Yeah. Go ahead.) I ... because she was very deliberate in planning where she was going to end up, while a student in college. And I thought, I thought it was pretty amazing that as a college student, she was like, "I'm going to work in the movies." And so she plastered her college dorm with all these movie posters. So she was consistently, she was deliberately keeping that in front of her (Lesley: Yeah) during her time at school. I think it's so impressive because, you know, the only thing that I knew is that I just wanted to be awesome. You know, at music, I didn't actually know what that meant. So the fact that she even understood what she wanted to go do. I just thought it was incredibly deliberate of her. (Brad and Lesley laughs)Lesley Logan 2:04  Well, I think people might think that that's an interesting word choice. And I think that it's okay to be deliberate. It's also okay to have just been like, "I just want to leave." Like, I deliberately went off to a very expensive of college because I wanted to get the fuck out of town.Brad Crowell 2:19  A very what college? (Lesley: It was a very expensive college) Expensive college. Okay, okay.Lesley Logan 2:23  Yeah. I was, I just want to get out. I was like, "They'll accept me. I'm out of here." And that was the only deliberate choice I made in my teenage years. (Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 2:31  Good.Lesley Logan 2:31  So anyways, okay.Brad Crowell 2:33  All right, before we get started.Lesley Logan 2:34  Um, we are on the road right now. So we are, we'll be honest, all these episodes for the next few weeks are pre-recorded before on the road. So, I'm going to manifest that we're having a great freakin' time getting ready for our tour.Brad Crowell 2:48  Oh, I know we are. We just had amazing dinner last night. (Lesley: Yeah ...) In fact, I slept so well. And I was really, really warm. (Lesley: Yeah) (Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 2:54  I think we're still on the road, actually. So, I don't know if your warm or not. (Brad laughs) But we are going to have, we have our tour going on. So you can check out the tour dates at onlinepilatesclasses.com/tour. We'll be in the Philly area on the 19th. And then we've got Atlanta, Miami, Dallas, that kind of stuff. So join us if you can.Brad Crowell 3:12  Yeah, it's gonna be so much fun. We've been really looking forward to seeing you. So if you are at all close to us on those dates, where we are going to be hosting a class, come hang out. (Lesley: Come) You know, it's just going to be awesome. (Lesley: Yeah) Looking forward to it.Lesley Logan 3:27  Yeah. And then we have some exciting waitlist. We want you to get on these are for (Brad: Yes) our business listeners, our fitness business peeps, we are actually going to be releasing a scheduling tool. (Brad: Whaat?) Whaat? I know Brad, where do they go to get on the list to hear about it when it's actually ready in the new year?Brad Crowell 3:45  Yeah, I don't have any idea. But ah (Lesley laughs) we gonna tell you right now. Just go to profitablepilates.com/scheduling. (Brad laughs) I will make that link go to wherever it needs to go so that you can be on the waitlist. (Lesley: Yeah) I'm pretty sure Meridith gave you a tool, of a link ...Lesley Logan 4:03  She gives me a link it's really long and it doesn't have a short little situation you just gave. So, I like that one.Brad Crowell 4:09  Okay, so let's call it, let's call it, you know what? Yeah, I think that's the best way. So (Lesley: Yeah. Let's call it that) profitablepilates.com/scheduling. (Lesley: Yup) Go there. It will redirect you to the waitlist. This is something that we are going to be formally introducing in January.Lesley Logan 4:29  Yeah. Yeah. And so we'll bring it. Well, we're excited about it. We'll tell you more later. And lastly, one more waitlist that we want you to load up yourself up on because it is a space is limited situation. We only do it twice a year Agency Mini. You'll go to profitablepilates.com/mini. (Brad: Yup) That's M, I, N, and I - and you'll get on that waitlist. We will open up the doors, probably right at the end of the year slash early beginning of the year. (Brad: Yeah. Yeah) And you do... you want to be on the waitlist because you hear about the special price before anyone else does. (Brad: Yeah) Okay. All right. Now back to the show. (Brad: Yeah) What our, what's our question from the, for the week?Brad Crowell 5:05  We had an audience question, which I thought which made me actually think, I think period. I liked the question is, "What are you celebrating from 2021?"Lesley Logan 5:19  Yeah. And we actually, you know, you said, "What are we celebrating?" And it's like, well, we just did this amazing reflections with Kareen Walsh. (Brad: We did) They are retrospective. And if you don't, y'all Kareen was on the show. She's in the teens, I want to say, and you can go back and listen to her inspiring self. She's got just amazing tools. But one of the things that I wrote down, um that I was celebrating from this year when we did the retrospective was that I have seamingly learned really well how to offload things off my plate. And I'm only, I'm really, I'm really only doing the things I love to do in my business. (Lesley laughs) And I'm celebrating this podcast, because I've been wanting to do this for a really long time. And this was a whole year in the making thing, because it took us to the beginning of the year to get it launched. And now we're doing it all the time.Brad Crowell 6:05  After talking about it for multiple years. (Lesley: Yeah) But Kareen's episode was 27. (Lesley: Thank you) So, if you're (Lesley: Oh) interested, go back to episode 27 ... (Lesley: Not the teens at all. Definitely the twenties) (Lesley laughs) She, I mean, she's a rock star. She is incredibly higher level thinking, like bigger picture, thinking, type of person. (Lesley: Yeah) So love her, love her. But yeah, so ...Lesley Logan 6:27  And then, I'm still celebrating. (Brad: Oh, please.) Okay. So, (Lesley laughs) I'm also celebrating that we got the decks out. And they were going and we have like the flashcards, the mat and reformer and we've sold over 1000 all over the world, which is insane to me. And then I'm also celebrating that I have lots of friends in Vegas. So, I can like call a friends and I have their cell phone numbers. And I, we go out and (Brad: Yeah) that is really fun because we moved here during a pandemic. And you know, we didn't really leave our house for the first 11 months. And ... (Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 7:02  Yeah. Literally, like the friends that we had for the first year we were here, were our immediate neighbors. (Lesley: Yeah) Because we saw them taking out the trash. And we're like, "Hi, who are you?" (Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 7:12  Yeah, so I've only had like we've only had like six months to make friends. And I really feel like as an adult, that's not easy to do. So I'm, I mean, if it sounds cheesy or childish, like, let me just say "friends are important." And lastly, I'm also celebrating that I use our back... I use every room in this house. I always use all of them. (Brad: She does) But I, specifically love that I get to use our amazing backyard is beautiful. Okay, (Brad: Yeah) you're turn... I mean, there, I can keep going because my retrospective list was long, but I'll stop there.Brad Crowell 7:39  Well, I set a goal for myself at the beginning of this year. And that was to take my weekends back. I didn't do that. (Lesley laughs) But what I did do and what I, why I'm celebrating is because many years ago, I worked at another company that had a large team, it was like 80 plus people on the team. And I thought it was really amazing that there were experts at different things all throughout the company. And I saw the value in that. And I thought, "Someday I'm going to lead my own team, and it's going to allow me to delegate up the appropriate tasks to the appropriate people." And so what has been incredible is in the past, you know, year and a half since we started, you know, since, you know, we stopped traveling, actually, and started building out our team. It's been amazing to see that we've been able to bring in people who are experts at what they do in different tasks. And now we have that that team you know, supporting this, I mean, this podcast, eight people work on this podcast.Lesley Logan 9:05  Is it still eight or is it nine now?Brad Crowell 9:08  Nine, it's nine (Lesley: nine) we (Lesley: Yeah) just added our associate producer, Amanda. So, nine people touch every single episode now on this pod, which is amazing, you (Lesley: Yeah) know, but because we, because of the way we work things out, they can stay in their wheelhouse and do the things that they do best. And it's been a lot of fun for me to see that actually come to fruition. (Lesley: Yeah) Also, I think on a personal note, I had effectively stopped reading books for you know, ever until maybe a year ago. Two years ago I started reading, I guess that's not true. The books things started in the (Lesley: You started doing that with Eddie) last three or four years. (Lesley: Yeah, but you've read more lately) I've been reading intentionally. I've been reading a lot of books. I don't actually open a book, I listened to them on audio. But, you know, I've been in in the past two years, I've read more books than I've read in the past 10.Lesley Logan 10:12  I'm just gonna say, that's quotable, "I don't actually open a book."Brad Crowell 10:15  I don't actually open a book.Lesley Logan 10:15  I just put the book to my forehead. And it was like ...Brad Crowell 10:17  I put it under my pillow. (Lesley laughs) And then like, "It's incredible how that works?" (Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 10:21  Yeah. Well, I think it's you have been intentionally reading and like reading books that are like are supporting the person you want to be. And that's really, really awesome. And that has that takes intentional, that has to be deliberate.Brad Crowell 10:34  And there's one more thing (Lesley: Okay) that I wanted to celebrate. And that is that I have been getting coaching. (Lesley: Oh, yeah) Just for me, just Brad, Brad coaching only. And it has been incredibly beneficial for my mindset on how I view myself, how I view our team, how I what my expectations are, how my communication, you know, should be with everyone. And that has been, I felt like I've been growing which is weird to say, you know, but I actually feel more confident, I feel like a better leader. And, I'm excited about being in a position where I'm being coached by someone who has, you know, been around this a lot more than me. So, yeah, that's what we're celebrating for 2021.Lesley Logan 11:26  Okay, (Brad: Yeah) well, what a great year. Okay, well, shall we go into the deliberate conversation?Brad Crowell 11:33  I think we shall.Lesley Logan 11:34  Okay, let's do it.Brad Crowell 11:35  Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about Hilary Hartling. From a former Disney movie marketing executive to a brand and messaging strategist for entrepreneurs - Hilary Hartling helps entrepreneurs infuse meaning into their brands. She is an incredible thought leader, business woman, new mom of Ruby, and master of using Ta-Da lists for success.Lesley Logan 11:35  So that's perfect timing because (Brad laughs) that's one of the things I love that she said. She takes her To-Dos and turns them into Ta-Das. And because she work to Disney, all I think is like fairy godmother, like, (Brad: ting) "ti-ting." (Brad: Yeah, yeah) Like, every time, right? So um, why I love this is I think we all like load up our To-Do lists, and we focus on what didn't get done. And really like, the way the brain works is, you know, it (Dog barks) likes things that feel really good. When you focus on what you actually did get done. And you celebrate that, it actually makes you want to show up to your To-Do list more. So, I think it's really fun to go Ta-Da and I've been really working on that and like, enjoying what I got done. Alright, so I just, I find her, I find that like a very sweet little way to change something. And sometimes reframing it makes things more possible.Brad Crowell 12:51  I also think it just shows off how talented she is because it's so obvious, but I didn't think of it.Lesley Logan 12:58  I know. (Brad laughs) I know. I know. That's like she definitely is like a marketing expert. I, that's not my role. But anyways, what did you love that (Brad laughs) she said?Brad Crowell 13:08  Well, you know, I thought that right out of the gate she opened up with, "you are a brand, even without a business." (Lesley: Yeah) And that's so, I think that's really powerful to think about that because you're a brand as a mom, (Lesley: Yeah) you're brand as a dad, you're a brand as a you know, a little league soccer coach, you know. (Lesley: Yeah) There's so many, the way that we're perceived that is branding, (Lesley: Mm-hmm) right? And that's a weird thing to think about. But you know, the car that you drive, the watch that you wear, or not, the (Lesley: Yeah) way, the way you carry your keys, you know, are they clipped to your belt loop? Or are they like in your pocket? Like, like, there's so many things that like, that set you up for a the, to be perceived by others? And, you know, like that could be, you know, when if you're out dating, that's branding like. (Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 14:09  Yeah. Well, exactly. And also like, um, and it I think, for a lot of people who maybe have an idea, that's something that they want to create, or do, but they're like, "Oh, I'm not a business person and I don't know this. And then like, what are people gonna say?" It's like, if you just take all the best parts of you, (Brad: Yeah) your value system, especially, and your reason for doing that thing, and you just put that in place of with a business title over it, "Boom. That's it." Like that's how companies get a brand and then you just actually, the consistency of the action you take, that supports those things is what makes people go, "Oh, it's branded."Brad Crowell 14:45  And she said something that I thought was also incredible. She said, "the, the way that you leave people feeling (Lesley: Mm-hmm) that's your branding." (Lesley: Yeah) And and that was something that I, that the emotional side of it is never something I really thought about. I always thought of branding as like, "My colors and my logo." And that's pretty much it. Lesley Logan 15:10  Yeah. That's what everyone thinks, but it's not that at all. It is the way you leave people feeling. Brad Crowell 15:14  But that's why also why you don't even have to have a business to have a brand. (Lesley: Yeah) You know, because if you are like think think about the, think about the neighborhood mom who picks up all the kids from school and drops them off and makes sure that they're safe, right? That's her brand. She clearly is passionate about that. And, you know, or, you know, or think about the angry neighbor who yells at the, you know, the kid who throws a ball at his yard, you know, that's also branding. It's not cool branding, but it's still branding, right? So the way you leave people feeling and I thought that was really amazing that (Lesley: Yeah) you know, to take to take away this like preconception that we have (Lesley: Yeah) that you have to have a business, to have a brand.Lesley Logan 15:16  You have to go get your logo. Go (Brad: Right) get it.Brad Crowell 15:36  Yeah, (Lesley: Yeah) nothing to do with it.Lesley Logan 15:56  Yeah, so those I agree ...Brad Crowell 16:04  I guess not nothing. Minimal to do with it. It's still important, of course, in the long run, but like because you want people to see that and then associate that emotion with that visual. (Lesley: Yeah) Right? Or those colors ...Lesley Logan 16:16  But that takes time. That takes multiple times of you leaving that person with that feeling (Brad: Yeah) with that thing. So you can that's, you know, (Brad: Yeah) yeah. Okay, that's good. I love it.Brad Crowell 16:26  So, listeners feel happy, okay. You better feel happy. (Lesley: feel happy) Feel happy right now? (Lesley: Oh, my God. I don't know. Is that how we leave people feeling?) (Brad and Lesley laughs) No, that's not that. (Lesley: I don't think so.) I was being, (Lesley: I hope, I hope ...) I was being "sardonic," sar... All of all of the dark, negative, (Lesley: Ah) hilarious joke. (Lesley: I never heard that word) Yeah, it was commanding them to feel happy that doesn't work. Okay. But anyway, it was fake branding. (Lesley: Yeah, fake branding) Y'all, next moving on.Lesley Logan 16:50  Moving on. (Brad laughs) Here we go.Brad Crowell 16:54  All right. Finally, let's talk about the BE IT action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Hillary Hartling? I, I'm going to jump in first. She said that we should redefine success. (Lesley: Yeah) And I thought another thing that made me actually think back through me and how I've defined success. She said she's changed her success definition so that it effectively includes what makes her feel good. (Lesley: Yeah) And I started laughing about that, because I've, I've told this story on the pod before, but I decided I was no longer going to work with assholes. (Lesley: Yeah) Right? And that if you haven't heard that story, I don't remember when I told it. But ...Lesley Logan 17:45  I don't know but I feel like you haven't worked with assholes. And so you should feel really successful right now.Brad Crowell 17:49  Right? So that's exactly what I was saying is, it makes... makes you feel good. You know, Hilary (Lesley: You should put ...) worked in a super high stress environment. And now she doesn't want to feel stressed out. She wants to feel good.Lesley Logan 18:01  You should have put that in your celebration. "Celebrations for 2021. No longer working with assholes."Brad Crowell 18:07  Yeah, (Lesley: Yeah) Yeah. That's a huge, (Lesley: Yeah) win to celebrate. (Lesley: Big win. Yeah) Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah) I love that, actually.Lesley Logan 18:15  Yeah. Put it on your, put it on your you know, put it on your thing. Um, I ...Brad Crowell 18:19  Put in my wins board.Lesley Logan 18:20  Yeah. Put it on your wins board. Put it in the channel for the group, "Hey, everyone congratulations, if you're working here, you are not an asshole." (Brad and Lesley laughs) Well, I agree. I think we've had, I think it's we've heard before to redefine success. To what it means for you. (Brad: Yeah) But like, you really do. Like it is like not just a Hallmark card. It's like such an important thing because it will eat you alive. And I think it actually goes into my BE IT action items ...Brad Crowell 18:48  Oh, before you jump into that, though, I think that if you don't define success, (Lesley: Someone will define it for you.) It will be defined for you. And most often, it will be the Keeping Up with the Joneses idea. (Lesley: Yeah) What is a success? Oh, well, it's what my neighbor has." (Lesley: Yeah) You know, it's not what I'm not satisfied because it becomes you know, it's funny competition. This, this, it puts us in a position not to feel good. (Lesley: Yeah) Right? And so I think it's very important if you have not yet defined success. Start thinking about this, start like make it an actual put that on your list of things you should do. (Lesley: That's your BE IT action item.) That's the BE IT action item.Lesley Logan 19:31  Yeah, what a great thing to (Brad: Define find success for you.) percolate on. Okay, now I'm going to (Brad: Do it. Take it) really does go (Brad: Yeah) into my thing, because thanks for talking about looking at your neighbor's lawn. (Brad: Oh) Stop comparing your journey. (Brad laughs) Um, you all here's the thing about social media, like it is, we all know that it's the best of everything, right? It's the cream of the crop of people's posts. And yet somehow we still compare ourselves even though we know that they are intentionally not putting up the stuff that makes it look like they're having a bad day. (Brad: Yeah) I am guilty as charged. I'm not gonna put up there that I'm having a bad day. Why? That's ...Brad Crowell 20:07  ... okay. Every once in a while you do. (Lesley: I mean once in awhile). But it's not, ya know. Lesley Logan 20:10  I'm honest. But I also have, also gotten over whatever that bad news is because I actually don't, I don't do it for attention or for help. I do it to be like, "Hey, look, I have a bad day too." But here's the deal. You have to understand that like, if you started, like, I started teaching Pilates in 2008. If I like, I remember the point of being jealous of my mentor, because she started when she was like, 19. And I was like, "Oh, my God, she's, she's further along than me. And I want to be with her. I want to ..." I like I like, had jealousy over how long she'd been teaching and somehow wanted to try to be where she was in that exact moment, which is like 20 years ahead of me, and not possible, (Brad: Clearly impossible) clearly impossible. But thankfully, I snapped out of that BS because you, you can't, you can't compare other people's positions and journeys, even if you're doing the exact same thing. Or even if you wanted the exact same thing, even if you start the exact same time, everyone has a different filter for which, like different tools, sets, and strengths. So blinders on, be inspired but go back to your definition of success. And keep going.Brad Crowell 21:16  Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah) Yeah. I mean, I... you made me think about me in college, studying music, and wishing that I was, you know, a rock star. And I totally felt fear and jealousy about some of my classmates who were only like two years older than me. Sorry, they had, I was late getting to my college. I was, I had gone to other colleges before. So I didn't get to my college til I was 22, 21, sorry. And so all my classmates were younger. And there were people who had graduated, who were effectively my age, or maybe one year older. And there was this one band that was getting huge notoriety. And they were younger than me. And I thought, "Did I already miss the boat?" (Lesley: Oh, yeah) You know, like, "Am I too late?" Like, "Can I be, by the time I finish here, I'm going to be 24." You know, then I'm going to have to start my career effectively, is the way that I was viewing it. Like maybe it's gonna take me, you know, a couple more years, is it you know, "Am I gonna be able to do it at 25 to 30?" And, you know, but really, I was comparing myself in a (Lesley: Yeah) way that's ridiculous. You know, of course, you know, you can be older than 22 and being you know, like, (Lesley: Oh, my gosh) getting a variety. Lesley Logan 22:36  I mean, people are like, getting famous at 75. Like, there's (Brad: Yeah) just like ... and also fame doesn't mean success by the way, it just like maybe that's ... that's what you're wanting.Brad Crowell 22:45  I didn't want the fame. I wanted my band to be listened to which (Lesley: Yeah) comes like it's part and parcel to fame, but I didn't feel like I wanted to be famous. I (Lesley: Yeah) wanted, I wanted like, I actually want the money without the notoriety. (Brad laughs) (Lesley: Oh, yeah.) You (Lesley: Yeah) know, that's what that would be the perfect storm.Lesley Logan 23:01  I know. That's my, my big thing is I want people to be like, "Who is this girl? She like walks into places." And be like, "I know." (Brad and Lesley laughs) I just like want them to like, "What? Who is she?"Brad Crowell 23:11  Who is she? She's famous in Poland. (Lesley and Brad laughs)Lesley Logan 23:16  Well, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 23:18  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 23:19  Thank you so much for joining us today. We are so freakin' grateful for you. Thank you for being part of the first like year of the pod because I can't believe we only have one more week left until 2021 for the Be It pod. You are amazing. DM us and tell us how you're gonna use these tips in your life. (Brad: Yeah) And do us a huge freakin' favor like please, please feel free to actually share this show over the holidays when you're seeing family members when (Brad: Yeah) you listen to it. Because that really is how the show gets out there. So it's totally fine to be like, "This, this is the show, go listen to it." And then we'll catch you in the next episode.Brad Crowell 23:52  Looking forward to it.Lesley Logan 23:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!'Be It Till You See It' is a production of 'As The Crows Fly Media'.Brad Crowell 24:27  It's written produced, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Our Associate Producer is Amanda Frattarelli.Lesley Logan 24:38  Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.Brad Crowell 24:43  Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 24:51  Special thanks to our designer Jaira Mandal for creating all of our visuals (which you can't see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all video each week so you can.Brad Crowell 25:03  And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each of our episodes, so you can find them on our website. And, finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Brad & Lesley recall the last episode's interview with coaching savant Kareen Walsh. They cover tons of book and podcast recommendations (see below!), evaluate the roles they each play in their business, and taking a moment to look back at how everything is going.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Brad's book recommendationLesley's many, many book and podcast recommendationsKareen Walsh is a Jedi KnightWhat role do you want to play in your business?You don't have to be the CEOTake a moment to look back and evaluate your businessTaking a pauseEpisode References/Links:FREE Habits Webinar with Lesley (Sep 7, 2021)The Replaceable Founder by Ari MeiselBreath: The New Science of a Lost Art by James NestorThe Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters by Bernadette Dunne, Priya ParkerUnlocking Us podcast with Brené BrownKareen's podcast, Your Badass JourneyKareen's Reflections JourneyHappiness from the Inside Out: The Art and Science of Fulfillment by Robert MackIf you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co hosts in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the entrepreneurial conversation I had with Kareen Walsh in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, well, you can pause this, you can find it, listen to it, and just put this up in the queue next, there's like a way to go play next. Or you can listen to this. Go listen to that one. Or you can start any order you want. This is your life and we are just here to help you Be It Till You See It. SoBrad Crowell  That's true.Lesley Logan  Is literally what we're here to do. Okay, hun, guess what's happening?Brad Crowell  Tell me!Lesley Logan  Oh, you know.Brad Crowell  I know (Lesley: Okay) it's coming up in five days.Lesley Logan  Five days. Alright, y'all, I am on a mission. I'm on a mission because I want to help you Be It Till You See It. And I know that is so easy to be inspired to hear all these takeaways and then go to put things in action and then somedays you don't feel motivated to do what you want to do. And other days you just feel like the world against you. And also there's a whole situation on how long does it take to like make this become something that's routine, sort of think about it - because decision fatigue. And anyways, I'm about to blow your mind for free on September 7, in our Myth Busting Habits webinar. Again, it's free, it is on September 7, there is a three day replay. And you all can join me on this hopefully live, I really hope so we try to pick a time that most parts of Australia are awake. Sorry, Perth, I just don't even know what timezone you're on. I love you and I really am trying but if I go too much later, then we lose all of Europe, all of it. (Brad: It's true) And so this is the best we can do. It's a one hour webinar, you go to OnlinePilatesClasses.com/habits, that's OnlinePilatesClasses.com/habits to sign up for this free webinar and... (Brad: Plural) Yeah, it's plural. (Brad: Yeah) Yeah, it's also in the show notes, just click the link in the show notes. You just do the little swipey-up thing and like hit it and you can sign in. It's because it's free. You don't even have to have your credit card handy. You can do this on your phone. And then set a time to watch it if you're not gonna watch it live with us because there's a three day replay "only." (Brad: Yes) But it's gonna be a lot of fun. And I I want you to join live as you can, because I would like you to, to say, "This what I've been trying to make happen and I can't make it happen. Let's break it down!" We're gonna have time to do that with everyone's desire. So anyways, I'm ready. Ready!Brad Crowell  I'm excited. I mean, I think it's gonna be great to to dig into how we actually make habits.Lesley Logan  I think that you are actually gonna really love it. I haven't... To be honest, y'all, while we live together, work together, and we are married. I haven't really been sharing a lot of this with him. (Brad: No) He just hears me chat about it with the team. I'm like, "We got to do it like this. We got to do it like this, because it's gonna help people make it easier, make it a habit." And they're just looking at like, I'm crazy. And so everyone's gonna get their mind blown on September 7.Brad Crowell  Mind blown.Lesley Logan  Mind blown. In the best way kind of mind blowing up version. So anywaysBrad Crowell  I love it.Lesley Logan  What was our question this week?Brad Crowell  Yeah, we actually had a great audience question this week from Helen Lamphere. She DM us on the IG. (Lesley: Yeah) And the grammage...Lesley Logan  @be_it_pod is our handle for the podcast on IG.Brad Crowell  And you can ask any question that you want from us about anything and we will, you know, happily work it into episodes that are coming upLesley Logan  Life, business, romance, Pilates. (Brad: Hmm. Spicy) Spicy. (Brad: Ah) Love, I love dating advices. It's really fun for me.Brad Crowell  Today's question from Helen Lamphere is, "What are your favorite books that you would recommend?"Lesley Logan  Yeah, okay, well, you go first.Brad Crowell  Okay, cool. So as you know, I'm a process guy that's like my jam. I definitely like the the idea of getting out of the way and letting automation take over. So we use a tool for our project management that allows us the the, the option of replacing ourselves, and that's a weird idea. And that idea is explained in detail in a book by Ari Meisel called The Replaceable Founder. That was very inspirational to me. It's only a it's a quick read. It's a short book. It's an easy audio listen. And the general idea is create a systematic approach to the things that you're doing so that you can think through how to do it well, right, easy, whatever. And then how can you replace yourself in that. Now, whether you're replacing yourself with full blown automation, or you're replacing yourself with another person on your team who's joining your team, the idea is as the founder of a business, you can't do it all and you basically need to swap yourself out in a way that is manageable by somebody else. So that is an amazing book for all you entrepreneurs out there that I would recommend.Lesley Logan  Cool. And you know what, even if you're not an entrepreneur, and you are someone who has a lot of things to do, and you are wishing that people would help you around the house, around your life, around things, I still think it's worth watching, reading. (Brad: Yeah) Watch it, you read it, or you can listen to it on audible. Because you can think about "Gosh, I can never have someone who cleans my house the way I cleaned my house." Well, you can (Brad: You totally can) if you do this approach from that book. So just for the non entrepreneurs out there, that's still a good read. Okay, well, I'm gonna I have a few books because (Brad: Oh) I love to read...Brad Crowell  She does. She reads all the time.Lesley Logan  I'm usually reading between two and three books at one time. So first up, Breathe, James Nestor, you're welcome. Changing your life, you're frickin' welcome. I am actually taking a breathwork certification because I'm obsessed with this book. So I don't care if you're into Pilates movement or not. It is awesome. Next book that I recommend to everybody, (Brad: everybody) everybody that's how many people, The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks. Ah, if you do listen to that one on audible, I highly recommend at least 1.4 maybe 1.5. He is like a grandpa reading you a story. And I the reason I say listen to it is if you are someone who is a perfectionist, overachiever, who's super hard on yourself, you're going to read that book with this tone of voice. That's a little bit like judgy. And why I like his voice is he's "grandpa" and he's like giving you stuff, but it does needed to be sped up a little bit. And it's all about how we get in our own way when we get outside of our comfort zone. So we all are told, "Life happens on the other side of the comfort zone," but then it's scary. And so some of us like self-deprecate when that happens to bring ourselves down, we worry, (Brad: Sure) I'm a worrier. As soon as something goes good, I start worried about something else. It's gonna go bad. And I've been, I don't know, I'm pat myself on the back, I'd say "I've been doing pretty good" since acknowledging that. But there's a bunch of other things maybe you pick fights with people when life is going really good and you get a fight with someone - that's called upper limiting yourself. So highly recommend that for anyone who is wanting to be recovered perfectionist and overachiever. I'm gonna keep going because this is my show. (Brad laughs) I also really am super super into as far as business books go, I've just started The Messy Middle and obsessed. Obsessed everyone. (Brad: Yeah) It is...Brad Crowell  I just downloaded that. I haven't started it yet but... (Lesley: I know) she told me yesterday, "You got to read this book..."Lesley Logan  Gotta read this book. (Brad: Okay) I'm like nine pages in and it's like making my whole world, makes sense because we're in the middle right now. And sometimes I just feel like, it's like a frickin' bipolar of emotions. It's like up, it's down. It's up. It's down. And then you just go "Oh, that's that's actually how business is." So for those of you who are trying to make something in your life or business and you're like, "Somedays are good, Somedays are hell." Yep, you're in it. Welcome to the middle. (Brad laughs) So I just wanted something that would like make me feel good about myself. And then lastly, as this is coming out, you know, towards the end of like, it's like, what is it almost the fourth quarter? It's called The Art of Gathering and it is by Priya something. Her name is not coming to me, but she's amazing. I heard her on Brené Brown's podcast and to be honest... (Brad: Priya Parker) Thank you! Priya Parker.Brad Crowell  The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It MattersLesley Logan  Yeah. So it literally goes into details about having like if you're going to have a small dinner party, what are the size and this is not like Suzy homemaker, what are the sizes... (Brad: What are the size?) the size of the party, like if you're... (Brad: It's what is the size of the party?) what is the size, like if you're gonna have people over for a home dinner party, the size does matter, too small and it's like a double date, too big and now it's a party and then there's different things and it goes over like how to be a good host because if you're not a host, someone will become a host because it's just how human beings are and that can upset the applecart and just she shares all these different things. She also has a... I'm just gonna put this out there. Priya, if you're listening, or if anyone knows Priya Parker (don't tell her I didn't know her last name...) And I I want her on the show because I I really, she has this incredible life y'all. She was raised by two, like her parents got married but they like on religious reasons, get along on no levels. Like one of them was raised, like from India, so like, doesn't eat meat, her dad's from the Midwest and he's like super Christian. And like, somehow they got married. And then she became this like, negotiator for the government because obviously, like she grew up in like a household, that'd be negotiated all the time. And so she wrote this book, and she shares her personal stories, and I don't care if you're in business, or just someone who wants to have people over your house. Great book!Brad Crowell  CoolLesley Logan  OkayBrad Crowell  RightLesley Logan  That's my list.Brad Crowell  Amazing!Lesley Logan  Thanks for that question.Brad Crowell  Yeah, that's a great list, I am in. (Lesley: Yeah) We'll make sure to put all the links to those in the show notes. So you don't have to worry about writing them down or kicking the table. I mean, or anything else like that. (Lesley laughs) (Lesley: Sorry, I kicked the table) (Brad laughs) All right. Let's talk about Kareen Walsh here. If Jedi Knights were real, Kareen Walsh would be one of them. She has this uncanny ability to envision the possibilities around any venture that you map out with her. She uses that foresight with her clients, whether coaching one on one or working with a trillion dollar company. Yes, I said trillion with a T she works with more than one, to make your life easier and more fulfilling, while staying efficient and productive. Her coaching has changed our lives. And we are so, like lucky to have been able to coach one on one with her because she works with C level execs from these massive, massive companies that have you know, like 10,000 employees and stuff like that. So having her take a look at what we are doing was mind blowing.Lesley Logan  So, clearly Brad writes the Bios (Brad laughs) on this, (Brad: Yeah) because I have no idea what a Jedi is (Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell  I definitely referenced Star Wars in there. (Lesley: I can't wait for you to hear this.) Lesley Logan  Um yeah, no, Kareen definitely changed our lives. And this is like the power of just being connected to people and also believing that everything happens for you like what we got to do with her in 2020, I mean, I can't even imagine how it would have happened, the other way that was planned - it like was it was totally different. So anyways, that has nothing to this podcast, but just a side note of like she she did change our lives and and, you know, you just got to trust how all the dominoes fall. So here's something I want to talk about that I loved. What role do you want to play in your business? You talked about this a bit. And, and she would do like details on on like, you know, evaluating it and all this stuff. And, and when we say she changed our lives, y'all I used to be the CEO of our company and I, I had crazy imposter syndrome around it. It was really like, causing me stress and anxiety. I everything I would read about CEOs. In fact, I was actually listening to Brad's current CEO coach, like I had downloaded all of his freebies, I listen to every podcast he was on, and I was like, "Okay, I'm learning how to hug a cactus and be a CEO," and I just hated it. And we met with Kareen. She had this this simple thing and when we did it, he's... Brad is the CEO. I was like...Brad Crowell  She's like, "By the way, have you thought about switching roles?" (Lesley: Yeah, yeah) And we're like, "Can we do that?"Lesley Logan  Can we do that? Can I not be the CEO of my own company? And it's and it's so funny, because I've now met so many female founders who aren't, they are the visionaries. And (Brad: Yeah) and so I left that meeting being the CPO and that felt really good.Brad Crowell  CPO stands for Chief Product Officer.Lesley Logan  Or we call the Chief Pilates Officer because it just sounds like more applicable, applicable. And anyways, I changed my role this year.Brad Crowell  When did you do that?Lesley Logan  Just a couple weeks ago, actually, (Brad: Yeah) like maybe a month ago, I was just like, evaluating how things felt to my body and how the business felt. And I and then I heard that Simon Sinek said, "There should be a CVO," and I was like, "Tell me more. I'm already interested." Chief Visionary Officer, I'm like, that's exactly what I do. And I am stoked about it. So it's so no matter how big or small your businesses, pick the title that makes you feel like you can show up and shine. No, don't pick the one you think you deserve. Pick the one that makes you feel you can show up and shine. And that's what I'm so glad she brought that up. What did you love that she said?Brad Crowell  Yeah, well, I just wanted to comment on that a little more. I definitely you know, if you are a small team, or a one person team, this, the I.. the idea here is you don't need to wear all the hats. Again, going back to my book reference, you know, you don't have to be the website builder and the video editor and the you know, instructor and the, you know, finance person, all that kind of stuff. You can definitely switch roles and, you know, become something that actually lights your fire inside of your business. And so it was a weird permission structure, I mean, it sounds so obvious when you're talking about like this, but we were stuck in this preconception that, you know, well, Lesley started a company, so therefore, she's clearly the CEO. And then my history, my background is operations, so I must be the COO, you know. And, and what we, what we identified was it that wasn't serving the business. And it was easy, it would make way more sense to literally change hats and and then that allowed us to immediately begin restructuring workload and changing things out. So it was a major change for us, it actually made life easier for both of us. (Lesley: Oh, 100%) And move the business forward. So yeahLesley Logan  It leaps and bounds.Brad Crowell  Yeah, cool. I really loved actually, you just literally hinted at it. Kareen said, an annual evaluation. And I thought, this is interesting, to, you know, how, how often do we, you know, just keep living and doing and whatever. And we don't actually take a moment to, to look back at our last year, and evaluate right. And what she was specifically referencing was her. She had a very explosive, corporate career prior to becoming an entrepreneur and doing all these amazing things she's doing now, she at a very young age and early 20s was like, like jumping the corporate ladder with leaps and bounds. And she said how she did that was she was, was definitely not. She never felt stuck in a position, right? She was like, "Is the position I'm in? Is the role I'm playing? Is it serving me? Have I learned what I need to learn from it? Have I outgrown it? If I mastered these things? What would I like to be learning next? And what is the opportunity that would provide the learning that I want?" Right? And so it wasn't this, like, hope that they give me a raise, and maybe I'll get more responsibility. And like, you know, I'm on this career path of 10, 20, 30 years. No, she was extremely aggressive. And in that, and when she felt that she had gotten everything that she needed out of the role, she started figuring out how to move on and move up. And so she changed companies, she moved around the country, she moved from San Francisco to New York, like did all these kinds of things. And I think they moved to Colorado in there somewhere. Anyway, they were not feeling they weren't, they weren't stuck. And I thought that was really incredible, to... I think that it's worth putting this on your calendar as an annual event. Now, whether that's over the New Years, or whatever, but like, there needs to be a moment of reflection, looking back on what it is you're doing. Why are you doing it? Are you still doing it for you know, the reasons that you, you know, we're doing it the first time because we change, life changes, situations change, that affects everything. And, you know, looking at, "Is this still serving me? What would I rather be doing?"Lesley Logan  Yeah, it's just such a good thing. And I and I, when I've heard her story a few times now between her podcast, our podcast and just knowing her. She had this like, natural drive to go, "Okay, well, I've, I've gone as far as I can hear, I gotta, I gotta go on." And I think a lot of times, we tend to wait, like, we're like, (Brad: Yeah) "Oh what's gonna happen? Maybe I should wait." Or I see a lot of people waiting to be kind of almost like, recognized or promoted as something that like, doesn't, it's not there. And there's, there's reasons to continue waiting, like maybe the reflection you're like," I'm not ready to move on. I'm not ready to move." I'm not you know, and that's also fine, too, but so important that it's an annual evaluation, because otherwise...Brad Crowell  I don't think if I don't think that I would have stayed in my old job as long as I have had stayed were I evaluating every year. Because I probably would have gone, "Who am I anymore? I don't even know myself. I can't believe what you know where what path I'm on right now. This doesn't fit me, doesn't serve me." But the only thing I could see was I got I get a paycheck here and I need to pay my bills and I have debt. So I've got I've got to stick around because this is a secure income.Lesley Logan  Oh my God, can you imagine that people do this in like relationships and stuff? Because I think (Brad: Right) my previous relationship, how I'd done an annual evaluation I probably wouldn't like "Woo." (Brad: Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's...) Maybe don't sign that lease together. (Brad and Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell  Yeah. Well, and I think if you're a fitness instructor, which I know a lot of you are listening to this, you know, maybe it's a, maybe it's like group classes, and you're like, "I don't really enjoy these," you know, so you can stop. Maybe it's teaching out of your home, maybe it's teaching, maybe you're driving to somebody else's house to teach them, maybe it's one specific client is no longer serving you because they're insane. And they cause you a ton of stress. Like, I don't know what it is. But when you when you take a closer look at what you're doing, why you're doing it, you know, is it still serving you? (Lesley: Yeah) SoLesley Logan  I'm into it. I'm into it.Brad Crowell  I thought it was powerful.Lesley Logan  I really I hope if you if you listen to this, you decided to annual value evaluation for your life. I definitely want to know, and I want you to set the date, screenshot it, make sure it says repeat and it has it on there. It's yeah, I mean, there's another girl that I've been wanting to have on the podcast who has an evaluation that she does monthly. And it really because it's you know, and I won't give it away, but there's just different ways to do it. So pick one, whether it's Kareen's, or someone else who you love and, and do it so that you're not just like waking up one day going "Woo, it's been four years of this job and now I have no idea where I want to go."Brad Crowell  All right, well, finally, let's talk about the Be It action items that you discussed with Kareen. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from that convo?Lesley Logan  I'm going first.Brad Crowell  Do it. (Brad and Lesley laughs)Lesley Logan  Um, my biggest takeaway was, I mean, we just kind of talked about a little bit, but it's taking a pause. She talked about taking a pause. (Brad: Yeah) And using her retrospective exercise, which by the way, is in the show notes. So click on it because she has some great freebies y'all, just like dive in. I don't care entrepreneur or not go through it, because her retrospective exercise is something that I use.Brad Crowell  It's a great toolLesley Logan  I must use it weekly sometimes because it involves celebration and I'm really big on that right now. And also like just being aware, so I kind of do it as a weekly thing. And also, like on a monthly thing that goes for the year. It's a whole thing that I do but anyways, have fun...Brad Crowell  She's got she's got a free PDF, you can download. It's in the show notes. And it allows you to, it's kind of a guided process of reflecting, like we were just talking about.Lesley Logan  Yeah. So anyways, and also just taking a pause, we just came back from a Maui trip. And it's, it's so good to just get, just get out of your routine, get out of your regular four walls, get out and just, it just take a moment to see what you miss, to see what you really like. And I just there's a lot that happens in pauses, like I get the best ideas, not like head down in my computer (Brad: Yeah) you now kind of thing. What did you like most your Be It action item you wanna talk about?Brad Crowell  Yeah, so she said at the very end, "Be it, being it is truly showing up in your truest version of yourself." And the way she said it, I was like, "Yeah, yeah, that." And then I was thinking I was like, "What the hell does that mean?" Right? Like, like, "What does it mean to show up in the truest version of yourself?" Um, and it...Lesley Logan  Yeah, I just want to say, I think like, a lot of people listening probably heard that. And, and I agree, it's like, "Yes, absolutely be the truest version of yourself." But I think some times we nod our head then we absolutely have to be myself....Brad Crowell  To be the truest version of myself. But then it's like, well, what, what is the truest version of myself and, and for me, personally, I find it a little harder to identify, like, "This is who I am, concrete in the sand." But I, I found it a lot easier to reflect back on situations where I clearly knew I was not being the truest version of myself. For example, my old job, you know, we did a lot of things with my old job that I wasn't comfortable with, when it came to morality, and like contracts and partnerships and all this stuff. You know, and, and I'm not going to get into the specifics of digging up, you know, all this old stuff. But the the truth is, when I was doing my job, I consistently disagreed with my boss, consistently, for years. And I was like, "That's not how I would do it. That's not how I would do it. That's not how I would do it." Right? But again, I felt like I need to get paid, and I'm here to do a job and I told him, I would do it, so I'm gonna do it. But then the way that we went around doing it, I was not excited about, you know. And it it caused me stress and it caused me anxiety sometimes, you know, and, and, and sometimes it wasn't like, like, we weren't, we weren't out there intentionally, you know, messing people over, but it also like, sometimes it was like, if I'm going to hire a team, and I'm going to let the team do, you know, work together, I'm gonna let the person who's running that team, hire the team, instead of me hiring him and going, you work for her now. Right? And because then now you're saddling two people together, they might not actually work well together, you know... stuff like that. There was so many situations where I was like, "That's not how I would do it." Anyway, when I, when I finally left that job, it took a solid six months for me to decompress and decide what was a normal amount of stress again, and then move forward with, you know, running my own businesses, and then eventually joining Lesley. And now, today, it has, it's a night and day difference between who I was even four years ago, and who I am today, even though I'm doing actually quite similar things, and in the process of how I'm doing, it's just now the way I'm doing it is it fits with who I am. (Lesley: Yeah) So that's a long winded response to how do you identify the truest version of yourself, but I think that you can look at what made you uncomfortable in the past, and you can at least start there.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I think that's actually for a lot of people, it is harder to identify what is and versus what's not. And so, you know, focus on what you're not. And then you know, you'll start to see the truest version of yourself. And also, I think, focus on your values like that, if you can get really clear on what your values are and (Brad: Yeah) what they're not, that really can help you show up as your truest self because you won't, you won't change who you won't change your you won't, you won't show up as having values that you don't, or like normally resonate with. So anyways, that's another tip on on that, but I hear you, it's really, it's really hard. When you feel like, "I've got to do this on social media, or I've got to do this to get people in my classes or I got to do this." And one of the things I tell people all the time is like, "Do not wear a cropped-top on social media if you don't wanna wear a cropped-top." Like...Brad Crowell  Oh, I was just thinking about Erika Quest and her her comment about wearing skimpy clothes (Lesley: Yeah) and like, you know, is that ... is that her MO like, clearly it's not her vibe, and that doesn't make her feel comfortable. So she doesn't do that.Lesley Logan  Yeah. So like, honestly, if it, if it is easier to figure out, like what doesn't vibe with you? And then you can start to like look at things and get really clear and maybe it's it maybe that's your own journey that you've got to go on the next few months is like, "When do I feel like I'm actually my the most truest version of myself?" Yeah, Rob Mack's happiness, health and values, it's the same thing with what you can do the same thing with like, your when do you feel like your truest version of yourself. So think about people in your life, that when you show up, do you feel like you'd put on a show or you feel like you'd be somebody else, and then people places in your life where you feel like you are the most version of yourself and then just start to identify what those are so that you can go on this exploration of feeling what that is, because I agree with Kareen, being it is truly showing up.Brad Crowell  Yeah, you know what, I didn't even think of the family context. But I have I bet that is way more relatable to most people than a work context, you know, and in... (Lesley: Thank you) Yeah, and in most in most situations, you know, there is like an ob... obligation to, to be there and put on a smiley face and whatever, but, but um, you know, it doesn't have to, you know, you can limit the amount of time you're talking, spending with family, if it really is a lot of butting heads. And if you're working in a job that you are consistently feeling like, "This is against my morality, the way we're doing things here." You have, you can leave, (Lesley: Yeah) you can leave and I know that it's a scary thing. But there are other options out there and whether that is getting another job or working for yourself or whatever. You know, the only way you're gonna get out is if you start planning an exit strategy now. (Lesley: Yeah) So...Lesley Logan  Well, this is so fun. I thoroughly love talking to Kareen. I was honored that she would say yes, and y'all there are so many (Brad: Yeah, she's awesome) ways you can connect with her. Whether you're an entrepreneur or not, like you got gotta go and binge out on her Badass Journey podcast. She's got a new situation coming out, but there's some great, great episodes in there. So please check her out. And you know, let us know what your what you're doing here. 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Kareen and Lesley take a close look at what we do, why we do it, and talk about evaluating if it's still serving you. They ask questions about moving on, replacing yourself in the process, being in your zone of genius, following your strengths. Your hustle should never become a hassle!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Evaluating your own role that you're playing in your businessAre you in your zone of genius?Annual evaluations - is this still serving you?Is your hustle now just a hassle?Morning routinesEpisode References/Links:Kareen's podcast, Your Badass JourneyKareen's Reflections JourneyKareen's IGHuman Design AssessmentCliftonStrengths (formerly StrengthsFinders 2.0)Guest Bio:CEO of Revampologist with 17+ Years entrepreneurial and executive experience leading and advising industry leaders in companies of all sizes. Clients include trillion dollar companies like BlackRock to Start Up Companies getting ready to launch and scale their business. I approach each business with a lens on People, Process, and Technology and hyper focus on Leadership to move the needle. I believe when you focus on operational optimization, leadership, and creative strategies, your company can survive any market fluctuation. When you focus on business growth mastery, you create unstoppable momentum in how you extend your reach and impact your clients. As a seasoned coach/mentor/and start up adviser, I love helping people align with their core values that allow them to thrive, leverage lessons learned, and build habits that keep them in action daily. https://www.kareenwalsh.com/gueston - for more info on Kareen.If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcription:Lesley Logan  Hello you, thank you for being here. I'm so excited for you to listen to this interview with my friend, I'm gonna call her my friend, Kareen. She is a coach of mine as well. And she is, well, you're gonna hear, you're gonna hear she has a soothing voice, she has this incredible way of looking at things. She doesn't, she doesn't just like do anything without pausing and asking a question. And in the best way, she shares such a great such great tips, multiple tips and multiple ways that you can connect more to who you are, and really figure out where you want to go. And she is literally the person that changed the trajectory of what Brad and I were going through when 2020 started, in fact, oh my gosh, y'all, so little story about this. So, she and I were introduced by a mutual friend. She got on an hour long conversation with me, which was like fucking just how generous and abundant she is. And then she did a call with my husband. And I was like, Yeah, I want us to work with her. She is our like, missing link to where we want to go and where we want to grow. And we were like, yeah, jazzed about it. We had breakfast on my birthday of 2020. And so amazing breakfast like, wouldn't have happened if I hadn't forgotten that I had to teach someone. I totally did forget. And I was totally at breakfast with her. And then ran into a friend of my friend's new fiance. He's like, look, I got engaged yesterday was crazy morning, right? And then not an hour later, we get the news that Kobe Bryant had died. And then like, you know, that was an interest as like, what an interesting way to start the year and you'll hear cream talk about how she believes like, New Year's is like her birthday, I always have treated my birthday is like my New Year's I'm like, well, we're just not going to see any of this is like, like what a weird time like I had a birthday with a woman I truly believe is going to change the trajectory of where I'm going help me make, like really helped me be step into what my power is. And then all this like it happened. And then two months later, we know the pandemic. Um, we got to... Brad and I got to still find time and ways to work with her. And the question she had us ask ourselves and the tool she gave us are literally why I live in this house I live in. And the reason and how this podcast is even here and how Brad and I work together and how we get OPC into your bodies and all this stuff. So I'm so grateful for her enough about how much I love her. Let me just tell you why you're gonna love her. So, in this interview, you're gonna hear like, just epic tips and questions you could be asking yourself right now. And so if you are on a run, or you're out doing errands, just save this episode and re listen to it. I still want to listen to it now because I do think that some things are going to get your mind going. But no, thank goodness, it's a podcast, you can really listen. And also make sure you check out at the end. She has an awesome tip you can do right now but also a great resource link for you with all of her resources, which I promise you will dive into and fall in love with. So Kareen is well, she is just an incredible light and she is also she's also a amazing strategist strategical coach. So some words that I promise you, I will learn on this podcast as you listen to me. I want you to see your entire bio in the show notes cuz I promise you'll be like, Whoa, what a badass. And she truly is. She's also the host of Your Badass Journey podcast, which I listen to every single week. If you follow me on Instagram, you know, I shared a lot because there's always a takeaway that I get out of it. And she really helps. She really loves helping people align their core values and help them thrive. And you will so see this and this you all she has been the CEO of Revampologist that she is that's her business, and she has been in 17 years of being entrepreneurial. There's so many things if you're not an entrepreneur, this is still a podcast for you. Because I promise you the question she asked, she asked herself every year when she's reflecting and everything are things you should be asking yourself, no matter if you work for someone or you work for yourself. So without further ado, I could just keep going on and on. But I just want you to hear her words and hear her tips about life and what you should be doing right now and I can't wait to hear your takeaways. So while we're here with interview and just a quick second.Lesley Logan  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan  All right, everyone. Okay, I just, I'm gonna, I'm definitely going to fangirl and also like, probably talk a little more nervously because this woman is one of my dear friends but also a woman that like I, she inspires me each and every week on her podcast, Your Badass Journey. And she has helped my husband and I and our business in so many ways. But she's also just an amazing friend. And I'm beyond grateful and so excited to bring her to you. Her name is Kareen Walsh. And I met her through another friend, this is power of networking. One of my dear friends was like, Oh, you know, you need your life, you need Kareen, you just need Kareen. I don't even know what time of the evening she texted you. But all of a sudden, there was a group text back and forth. We were on the West Coast or on the East Coast. And then within two days, I had an hour long conversation with you. And I was like, Brad, we have to hire this woman. And the way that fate works out is exactly the way it's supposed to. And we got to have an amazing weekend with you. You're such an incredible helper of all all people like but you specifically really do help people strategize and, and really make sure that their business is working for them. But we have so many things we could talk about. So Kareen, thank you for being here.Kareen Walsh  Oh, Lesley, well hanging out with you is always a highlight for me. And what I love the most is when we can like Marco Polo each other energetic like, "Hey, thought of you. This is something that you need to," you know, "just like hug on," or I mean, we were all our dog pics, the whole thing. But thank you so much for having me on your show. Congratulations for launching your podcast. I'm super excited to be able to serve your audience today.Lesley Logan  Oh, yeah, I really have no doubt that you will. I mean, but you're right. I love our Marco's and we you have a dog named Kaia. I have a dog named Gaia. They're two peas in a pod they haven't met but they're...Kareen Walsh  They're spazzing out in energy across the US right now by coastal doggy energy happening. I love them. They're so great.Lesley Logan  Absolutely! They're awkward ways of being on a couch. It's just like, it's like, were they born by the same? They say mom dog? Because it's like, how did you think that would get you on the couch? Anyways, if you're a dog lover out there, you totally understand. So, um, Kareen, you know, we met because of what you do with businesses. And, um, and it's if people who don't know, like Brad and I used to do different roles in the business, I was called the CEO. I was like, the, like, everyone went through and I'm like, I hate this. This is terrible. (Kareen: Yeah) I'm not happy in my business and and just by you giving me an Brad and I permission to the shift our roles and actually step into that in a different way. It's beyond it's been crazy, helpful and insightful. And I just wonder, like, Can you can you check cuz I think there's a lot of people out there who are happy, like they are doing what they want to do, but they're not happy in that. And what is that shift of a of the role mindset?Kareen Walsh  Yeah, so I think what happens when we bark, embark into like, entrepreneurial ventures, right, like or thinking we want to start our own hustle, or even in our own career life, we either feel like we have to do it all because there's no one else because it's our idea. And we think that there's a way that if we don't do it, it's not going to happen the way we want to do it. And I think that that we forget to pause and ask ourselves, is this actually what I want to be doing? Am I am I in my zone of genius? Am I at the highest level fulfillment in it? And? Or do I want to grow into what's next? Like, I think that was part of what was happening when I started working with you and Brad was, you had an amazing platform you had built, there has been amazing brand building that has occurred you're constantly on both of you are constantly on and it's amazing energy, like, that's what I feed off of when I hang out with you both. It's like, what are these to get it from? It's like, non-stop, right? What we realized when there was dissatisfaction or the undertone of, "Yeah, I can do it all. But it's kind of like draining me" or I'm feeling that when I do these things, these specific things of how I plan my day, and do my day because I think I have to do it for my business. I'm actually not feeling energized about it. I don't want to show up in it at all. And then I'm frustrated. I'm showing up in an energy that is not me. Well, when that happens, it's really good to just pause and reflect on where are you spending your time? Does it fill you up? And do you actually want to continue doing that? Then there's the guy with the lens of me as a coach, someone who has worked in so many different businesses helped so many other companies scale, my own business included, and like how I self manage to just give you the lens of what is needed in the business that you're in, what are the roles that are required, so you almost like take care yourself out of it. And if you were to look at it from the outside in, what are the roles required to actually optimize the business that I'm running? And then to ask yourself, what's the role I want to play in it? And then can I go enlist the help for everything else. And what was beautiful about working with you and Brad is that you both have, you're both creators, you both are genius at like coming up with solutions coming up with new ways to connect with people, different methods of of connection through Pilates, like both of you have very creative ways of showing up in life. But then you also have your own internal interests that are very different into what fuels you. So like, Brad, for example, is very operational, and he can like, see it and execute against it. And then for you, you're like, you see it, you want to design it, but you're like anyone else can execute, I'd be happy with that, I just want to, I just want to be able to talk about it, share it, connect with others, and like be in the moment of this experience that we're creating. And when we identified that in our time together, it was like, oh, aha, one of you has the product creation mode of like, this is our brand, this is what we're about, these are the partners we want to work with, this is how we want to do it. And the other one is like, I will run execution of all of that, but we can together be creative. But now you had clear separation of role and both are needed in your business. The other difference too is Lesley, you started your business on your own and Brad had a whole different career. And when you decided to come together as partners, and I why I bring this up is that when you enlist the help of others coming into your business with you to help you scale, you really want to be clear on that role that they play. And when you two initially had started together, there were a lot of assumptions underlying assumptions on how you each needed to show up. And it wasn't until we created the dialog for me to facilitate between, you know, the three of us to say, Well, what this is what's needed in the business. If we look from the outside in, what role do you want to play? And and asking that question, I think was super critical for you both to have clarity, and express it to each other. And this goes for any type of partnership and business and I personally see all team-building and accompany as partnership because it's a choice to be there. And so whether or not they report into or it's lateral, whatever, from a leadership standpoint, you're all partners in it to scale your business.Lesley Logan  Um, it's, it's so fun to like, kind of go back to the journey. And I hope that it even if you don't know who Brad and I are, you just dropped in, this is your first time hearing, it's like, it's important, because you know, from the outside, it might look like everything is just like going on all cylinders and it's perfect. But like, really, that's good, good work that we did. But we definitely had tons of assumptions. And also when you start to work when you start to partner up any time. I think a lot of people do with friendships, or they do it with like another co worker, and they decide to go out on their own. And most people skip that conversation, because no one tells you to have it like you didn't see it happen in the business that you're in or with other people. And then if you are married to the person, it's also very fascinating. It's like, I don't want to be your boss.Kareen Walsh  Not only that it can it can bleed into the relationship. You know, like Jeff and I, my husband and I, we tried to launch a business a few years back. And this is like that startup game where we were, we were launching an app and he was the product creation of it and I was the backend operations of it. And yes, that that is our zone of genius, but the way it started to affect our relationship was not good. So after going through that exercise of launching that company and, and and launching the app, etc, we actually identified it is not healthy for our personal relationship to actually be in business together, we can support each other and advise each other, but partners in business, not a fit. So not everyone has that, you know, ability to have really strong personal relationship and also be in business together. But I love that about you too.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I I definitely think we are meant to do something together. And I think that he and I will probably always have multiple different projects going on. But (Kareen: yeah), I wanted to go back because you talked about self managing, you asked like you, you put out some questions that we should ask ourselves and first I want to go back over those questions. And maybe a little bit about how you came into these questions. Because I think when someone hears it, it's like, oh, yeah, I should ask myself like, do I want to grow into this? Like, when you hear them it's like duh, why am I gonna ask myself this but like, also how do we even know when told us you should ask when I was never trained like, check in with yourself. How are you doing right now?Kareen Walsh  Yeah, most of our work life, right. Like if you think about initial work life, it starts with doing a job for someone now so it's very rare occurrence from a young age that you're taught to be like great something and go sell it. Now it's a little bit easier and more available, I'd say to younger generations because of the digital platforms we live in. However, most work ethics and like how we show up in a working life is because someone else hired us to do a job that they outlined for us to do. When you're conformed under that energy, you don't question. You don't ever question or pause... Is this a fit? Like, does that is this what I like? Unless you are evolving personally to realize that what you truly desire matters. And like you said, for my podcast, it's all about aligning what you love with what you do. Like that's what I'd love to share all these guests on their badass journey. And like showing the fact that what you once might have learned or were conformed to do in order to earn something doesn't necessarily mean it has to fit on top of you for the rest of your life. So there's a power in that pause. Right? There's a power in evaluating and I generally would start the evaluation process certainly happens around my birthday. Like it's, it's more as opposed to like New Year's eve, I consider like my birthday, my New Year's eve like because a whole new year starting. And I used to do this self evaluation for my career life. It's why I had a very aggressive growing career life was because I would always pause and say, is who I've become in this past year, and where I've been spending my time... Have I outgrown anything? So that's something to ask yourself, it's like, Do Is there something I've been doing, but I've just outgrown? Like, it doesn't fill me up to do it anymore. I've mastered it, and I'm seeking something else have outgrown it. Because when you ask that question, you're giving yourself an opportunity to realize, oh, cool, I've mastered that. But I don't want to do it anymore. So now it's time for a growth spurt. Like, what else? Do I and then that's the second question, what would I like to be learning next? Or where would I like to be taking my expertise next, in order to evolve? Like, what do I want to step into? And so then you're asking yourself that question, which then leads to the next question, which is like, well, what is the opportunity that would provide that learning for me? And the same thing happens when you're running your own company, because sometimes, especially in this digital world, we live in this whole entrepreneurial hustle. And we can talk about that too, on how I'm like on the total opposite of hustle lately, because I really am about being more than anything, but that's my evolution. I'm in my mid 40s. And I have done a lot in my career. But it's not about that as much anymore. The point being is that when you answer those questions for yourself, you're starting to set your, your intentional path for where you want to grow into in your career life. And career life is defined by the things you want to be known for in this world. So there's a package of skill sets, you can learn over time, that allow you to have that impact and that earnings or whatever that potential is, but it could show up in so many different modalities these days. It's really asking yourself the question to set yourself on that path.Lesley Logan  So I love that you do this on your birthday. Because I also like when people are saying their new year's resolutions or goals for the new year. I am I'm always very honest. I'm like, I kind of do it on the first like I like around December you know, I do a reflections thing. I love yours. We'll have to make sure we make if you're listening when you're listening to us. Go check out Kareen. She's got this reflections journey that I love. And I do it every month. It's really fun. But I like to reflect in December I do I try to get all my work done. So the December is gonna like what what are we doing next year, like, what fit what we like? And then I use because my birthday is in January. So it's at the end. And I use the first few weeks to kind of try on things. I'm like, do I like this? Do I like this? How's this working out? And then on my birthday, I'm like, Okay, so what are we really doing this year? Like, what are we wanting to do? But these questions, you know, you mentioned that you had you did this even early on, and like it really helped propel you to have an aggressive growth in your career at a young age. And I just wonder like, Was this something that you like, learned from your parents? Like, where did you pick this up? Like, where did you go, "Hey, let me check in and not just like sit in this job," like was there just like a it was an inside of you.Kareen Walsh  So I would say what drove me from a young age was I knew that if I could not figure out like my own financial wellness, then I couldn't create the life that I wanted. And at that time, I had a very traditional type of upbringing. It's like, you know, went to I was fortunate to go to private schools and then got had college paid for even more fortunate and but I was also told that as soon as I graduated from college, I was on my own and so from, throughout all College I always worked, I was like build up experience because when you come from a truly financial privileged background that I had growing up in the area I did where pretty much anything I wanted or asked for I could have had, I was not that way I always liked to earn it to have more value and the things that I receive that is probably more innate than anything. When I, when I took my my parents seriously when they were like, "Look, graduate college, that's all we're paying for you're on your own," kind of thing. I was like, Well, shit, I gotta go figure that out, right? So I appeared, I was also very much a seeker, I think I have an explorer energy in me. So I took every opportunity as like, tools in my toolbox to then go leverage in order to earn the answer is NO to the question of did I did I always pause in and like prepare, right or pause and think about like the next steps. What I was more so aligned with was observing behaviors of others the environment I was in, and how how my health breakdowns, actually demanded that I start to pause and question, how best to do this. Because if you can think about this fear of like not having enough financially to have food on the table, right, which a lot of people go through, and I definitely even coming from, like the affluential background I came from. that's how I felt, when I was first starting my career that I was on my own, and I had to make it for myself. I made some really bad choices that were quite unhealthy. And it took me to a point where, yes, my career was kind of climbing, but my health was declining. And that forced me to pause and really become more selective around what I said yes to when it came to my work life, and my career life so that I could find more alignment around it all.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I like the way you brought up being an observer. And I think that that's something a lot of people could probably try to practice a bit, I think it's easy to just like, look, and then assume and make judgments. And when you when you mentioned, you observe people at work, and you observe them in their life, it immediately made me go, of course, this is why you ask questions, because when you're observing all you can ask questions, "Well, I wonder why they did that? Well, I wonder what, wonder how that's gonna work out." Like, that's what observing is. And it's something that I've been challenging myself to do more of, in the last like, I think it's been about four years, I had one of my mentors was talking about a person who said, well, I and she said to our mutual mentor, she's like, well, I don't be disappointed, but blah, blah, blah. And the mentor said, "How can I be disappointed? I'm just an observer in your life." And I was like, "Huh, what does that mean? How do you how does one be an observer of life?" And like, and it was, it was a fascinating exploration for myself, like, how often I observing and like, what does that look like? And it does change the way you see things? And then the questions just come out of you because your brain is always looking for answers. Um, I want to talk a bit about you being a time bender. I've heard you mentioned this on your podcast. And I, this intrigued me because I'm like, I love creating time. Like I in the book, the big leap, he talks about like Einstein time and Newton time and like, you can actually like create time when you're in the flow. So can you talk about how you became How does one become a time?Kareen Walsh  How would I get typed as a time bender? Well, time bender is the actual term used when you do the Human Design Assessment. There, I'm a manifesting generator and we are typed as time benders like it is this ability to visualize the future what that manifesting energy is, like you're always kind of forward thinking or when you're in when I'm in creation, like solution mode, it's always 10 steps ahead, and then my mind just goes there. And in essence, that's time bending, because I can put myself in that future state and then bring it into the now that's how I define it. That's the manifesting side and then the generator bends time because it's all about the doing and the efficiency around process. So if you could imagine you could speed up time as a generator time bending energy because not only have you seen already where you're going, but now you can help get it there faster due to efficiency, so I didn't really understand that part of me or articulate it that well about myself until I did the Human Design assessment, but I freakin loved it. I'm like, Of course I'm a time vendor like it has never been it's never been explained to me that way. But I so see it now even clearer having that terminology because like, like, we started talking about your sessions and time with me, the reason why we connect so well is because I'm amazing listener. But as I'm listening, I'm actually visualizing on your behalf when you when you're telling me because I'm asking specific questions on like, where you're trying to go. The reason why I'm a strong strategist and help businesses grow and scale is that I visualize where you're headed, and then know what to ask to help you bend your own time to get there. Like I love helping people save time and money, achieving what they want. But I didn't know that that was actually part of my like, my birth energy, because that's how far back you know, these the Human Design goes, because it's based on idea.Lesley Logan  I'm gonna I gotta do this because I'm, I'm nerd about that and I it's like, when you when I did StrengthsFinders 2.0. And I'm like, Oh, well, yes, yeah, of course. (Kareen: Yeah, yeah, yeah) Of course some positivity, significant and woo, like duh. But like, you don't really you don't like it's like, you almost need someone to point that out to you. Because it's that whole thing. Like, you can't see what's on the label when you're on the inside of the bottle. Right? SoKareen Walsh  That's right! Yeah, it gives you a good like language and relatability and understand, I love different tools like that. So this one is just been the most recent one that I've done. And I work with my coach/mentor, making sure that I stay in that stance, because what has happened is that I've been more of a generator for most, I have a feeling to that you and have Brad do it because I think he's a manifesting generator also is, is that I've been too much in my generator side and not enough in my manifesting like visualization for myself, I do it so easily for others. But when it comes to me, it's something that I haven't given enough time to. And so it's been really fun this year, because that's the focus I've had is to sit in that visualization a little longer, before the doing.Lesley Logan  So that's the, I do think Brad is, because I'll come up with I want to see what I am just to see how it works. (Kareen: Oh you got to do both. I did Jeff's too. I did both) Yeah, gotta do it, for sure. Because I, I can get the ideas and he, like, he lights up and all and it's like, I can see it happening in his mind. And then he's like, "Okay, this is how..." like old computers are like printing out, "This is how we're gonna do it." And I'm like, "Perfect. Thank you so much. That's wonderful." But I'm glad that you brought up like that it's you were sitting in the generator side too much and I think, you know, we all have unique strengths. And I think it's easy for us to sit into one or another. And it's like any other muscle then even though that is something that's innate to you, and it's part of you, it doesn't mean that it's as strong. If you don't use it. If we just all sat here all day long, our legs would not be strong. (Kareem: Yeah, yeah) So what are what are some things that you are doing to sit more in your manifesting side, your visualization side.Kareen Walsh  So what's great is that my my coach/mentor that I work with now gave me a format, like a format, where it's like you sit in visualization for longer, and then you energize that vision. And then, and then you enlist for help or start visualizing, like, who do you need in it, and then you start to enlist the help. And then you start doing like it she gave me she had to give me a... generators need a formula, right? Like, I need steps so that I know that because I was leaping, I was going from visual to doing, visual to doing and I will tell you that it resulted in a lot of half baked situations, because I wasn't sitting in the true essence of visualizing it, standing in it. Like in my meditations, I now like I sit in it. And it's so much easier to just play and visualization for longer until I truly feel it like now's the time to act in it. That has been the game changer in that regard for this awareness, especially for this new business I want to launch it requires sitting more in visualization. And really, while I'm sitting in it, assessing where I'm resistant, because previously, I wouldn't listen to the resistance in me and I would just go do. And then that created its own ripple effect of pain and suffering, I would say you know, like where you say yes to the wrong services or you say yes to the wrong employee or you say yes to that, you know, like, because I didn't sit enough to visualize it, it turned into that type of response. And so that's been really great to to lean into more now.Lesley Logan  I can understand that a lot because I'm a little bit impatient, a lot impatient. So like, I'm like, Oh, we got it. Let's just go. And it's um, and I too had health issues early on. I think I probably would have a hustler longer if my health had been like you got to stop because we are not keeping up and and it's really funny, like how your body will start screaming at you if you just don't listen to it. And so I too, and like, I think there was a there's a time for a hustle. And then you got to like, you got to know when to put the brake on and like get into the groove. (Kareen: Yeah) Like taking the site, take the scenic route. And so I I, for many years was not listening to the resistance. And even now I can find myself like going, you should be doing this, like you should listen to what's happening right now. And there's that that's a push pull inside what it's like, No, but I really like that's just, it's gonna be fine. It's like, every time I look back, I'm like, you know that one point, you could have paused.Kareen Walsh  YEAH. SO HERE'S THE MEASURE FOR THAT, THAT I LIKE TO SAY IS LIKE, THE HUSTLE SHOULDN'T TURN INTO A HASSLE. SO IT'S LIKE IF YOU'RE HASSLING TO GET IT DONE, YOU'RE NOT HUSTLING LIKE A HUSTLE IS, IS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE FOUND SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE SO BRILLIANT AT THAT WHEN YOU SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE IT IS SO ALIGNED, LIKE TRY AND FOCUS ON ALINGNED HUSTLE, BECAUSE I'M HUSTLING ALL THE TIME. BUT THAT'S ME STANDING IN MY HUSTLE IS REAL, LIKE IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS INNATE TO ME NOW, BECAUSE I KNOW MYSELF SO WELL. AND, AND IT'S TIRESOME TO SEE PEOPLE CALLING HASSLE, THEIR HUSTLE, WHEN YOU KNOW, IT'S BROKEN ON THE OTHER END, WHETHER IT'S BREAKING ON THE INSIDE BECAUSE THE HEALTH MANAGEMENT HAS GONE TO SHIT FOR WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT BUSINESS WISE OR CAREER WISE. AND THEN THERE'S THE THE ALSO THE HASSLE THAT SHOWS UP WHEN THE CLIENTS AREN'T RESPONDING A CERTAIN WAY IS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT STANDING IN LIKE VIA LIVE ENERGY TO TRULY SHARE WHAT YOUR HUSTLE IS. HUSTLE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NEGATIVE. BUT I'VE BEEN SEEING SO MANY NEGATIVE RESPONSES LIKE OF HOW IT'S SHOWING UP IN THE WORLD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HASSLING NOT HUSTLING.Lesley Logan  That is my favorite even make a shirt or I'm making shirt and put your name on it because like that is exactly, that's exactly it. There's a difference in the hustle and a hassle. Oh, okay. One more question. Because, I mean, you're just a genius. And there's just so many things that we could talk forever. I you (Kareen: Anything you want) I think it was so many, there's so many tips, go ahead and listen to her podcast, because you're, there's gems every week. But, um, you are one of the few people I know who has a morning routine that's longer than mine. And and I'm also one of the people who like kind of gave me permission, because I had this long routine, but I was like trying to shove it into the tight like I was really (Kareen: Stressing yourself. Right?) Yeah. And it was like, my morning routine is stressful. And then I don't know, one day, I don't know, I heard you talk about but you talk about your morning routine. And I was like, Oh, why don't I just start my day later? And then I have all the time. So which sounds so obvious, but you have to hear it everyone. (Kareen: Yeah, you do.) So can you can you talk about how you started this morning routine and like how it's grown and kind of how you decide to add in things?Kareen Walsh  Well, what I realized that is that if I don't recharge myself and get connected to myself first thing of the day, that I'm disconnected for everything I'm doing all day long. So that was one thing was just like knowing that I had to do take care of me first thing in the morning. The second thing was if I am rushed, like if I have the stress of rushing, I get this amazing pit in my stomach and anxiety forms and my cortisol levels go off the chain. So I had to give myself enough time to gracefully move through my routine to feel myself. So I would say that it wasn't until maybe. And I do this whenever I travel too. But I think I've been in this routine now for almost, gosh, has it been like almost four years, like I'm last year was such a time warp that I'm (Lesley: I know), it's like for, for, and even through last year I continued like it's this, this has become so much a part of me. I don't know how I won't turn it off. I can't it's a part of me. But the routine itself is very simple in that it starts the night before where in the evening, I put my phone on airplane mode. I play my favorite sleep meditation music with a timer on for 33 minutes. It used to be 24. But for now, lately, it's been 33 I don't know why but this is what comes to me and then automatically goes off at that 33 mark and I'm in my sleep and I like to sleep for a good at least seven and a half, eight hours in order to feel rested. Then I do not start my interaction with other people, including my husband sometimes. Someday he'll give me a good morning but he knows that my my morning time is my space until, no meetings basically, with for work related or external until 11am. There are exceptions of course if I'm on client sites, etc. This whole routine just starts earlier. But I wake up around like, 7, 7:30, generally. And then I go into my, I take my supplements in the morning, and then I change and I start my meditation routine. And then I move into my movement routine. Sometimes during that I'm either doing a sorry, in between, I'll do a journaling, like my gratitude and forgiveness is very key on a daily practice, I think to recharge you as well. And then I do my movement routine, get ready for the day, have my protein shake, and then my meetings can start. So I really try to block my time in the morning until 11am. That's just for me. And that's the way I gift myself.Lesley Logan  Thank you for getting granular there because I think it's I think it's people can learn more from that, like, you hear that you're like, oh, oh, I could have you can put, Oh, I should put that order. Or I may try that out. Like you can try things on for size and whatever, like piqued your interest, like, ooh, she's a forgiveness journal. Like, try it out. I think that's so fun. I'm a big I'm a big believer. I actually after we're done with this, I'm gonna have to take you and show you I got this new lamp that does the sunset. (Kareen: Yeah.) And then it does (Kareen: Sunset was nice) the sunset. And then it does a sunrise. And oh my gosh, I have not hit snooze. Not one time since I've had this. And it is excellent because I would just wake up and I'm like, well, Hello, good morning. Like I am the person who's like writing in her morning pages. I hate the morning. Why am I up? What day is it? And then by the end of my morning pages, I'm like, Okay, let's go. But like (Kareen: Yeah) That's how I open my eyes.Kareen Walsh  I'll tell you though, I don't even set an alarm anymore Lesley, like, I allow my body to wake up when it needs to. And it's always at the right time. Because (Lesley: Yeah), that's just how my body needs to respond today. Like it's really only when I'm traveling which hasn't been for a year but what I know I'm on my body's gonna need to get reconditioned post pandemic trying to travel again, different time zones and like be be available to others and other times, but I still do this routine. Like everywhere I go, this is my routine, because I know that if I don't take care of me first, I cannot serve all day long. Which is what my business and just my general nature is.Lesley Logan  Yeah, no, I'm a big believer, I always tell you know, my members on OPC. I'm like, if you don't give 100% to yourself first, you cannot give to others. Like there just isn't like that doesn't that's not how it works. All right, so Kareen, where can everyone find you? Because now they're falling in love with you. And they're gonna want to have way, way more contact with you. So what's the best place to find you on?Kareen Walsh  So if you want to connect with me, and like DM me, I'm on Insta. So it's at Kareen the letter Z Walsh. And then if you want the retrospective exercise that Lesley talked about earlier, is on my website. So that's kareenwalsh.com/links, and you can find other workbooks I have there and other ways we can engage and access to my podcast there as well.Lesley Logan  You, you're amazing, everyone go check that out. We'll put it in the notes. So it's easy to click, but I promise I've used many of your resources. And it has, it's why I have this house here in Vegas. Like, we didn't even get into that y'all. But like (Kareen: Oh that's right) this is is the woman that in the beginning of the pandemic, Brad and I like rewrote our vision for the year. And then not two months later, where we live... like moving, which is (Kareen: It was beautiful) so definitely get that. So um, okay. So I, I really want to make sure that every time I do this, every listener gets some actionable steps, because it's really inspiring, there's so many great takeaways. I mean, you gave so many great questions. But I think it's really important that people who resonate with what you said, get some tips on how they can Be It and I think that being it is anything that's bold or executable or intrinsic or targeted. So what what would you suggest they could do?Kareen Walsh  So to be it to like, in a way where I would add is yourself like it's being it is truly showing up in your truest version of yourself. And so the biggest tip is to if you haven't paused for a while is to take a pause and really use my retrospective exercise. But just give yourself a moment to ask yourself exactly where you are right now what's working for you what's not working for you and figure out what you really want to be doing and come up with a plan that aligns who you truly are against it all because it'll always be out there. Whatever it is you want to achieve or bring into your world is out there for you to have. You just need to pause to see it sometimes and evaluate the direction you need to go in, in order to step into it and and really make it happen for you right now.Lesley Logan  Oh, I love that. Thank you so much. I love you so much, (Kareen: Thank you) Brad and I to just think of you and Jeff and Kaia all the time. And we're so grateful that our paths crossed and we had the year that we had because there was so many things that came out of it because of you. And so thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing all of your wisdom and everyone until next time, make sure that you Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And, follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!Lesley Logan  'Be It Till You See It' is a production of 'As The Crows Fly Media'.Brad Crowell  It's written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan  Kevin and Bel at Disenyo handle all of our audio editing and some social media content.Brad Crowell  Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan  Special thanks to our designer Jaira Mandal for creating all of our visuals (which you can't see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Pedroso for editing all the video each week so you can.Brad Crowell  And the Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Being a trillion-dollar consultant is a title most of us can only dream of, and it is one of the many that today's guest, Kareen Walsh, has managed to achieve. Not only is she an elite executive coach, but she is also a serial entrepreneur, startup advisor and investor, author, and podcaster. As the CEO/Founder of Revampologist, LLC, a seven-figure boutique consulting and coaching company, Kareen brings over 17 years of experience, underpinned by her unique, people-process-technology approach. In today's episode, Kareen talks about where she sees most leaders tripping up and stresses the importance of not viewing personal and professional growth as dichotomous. Instead, they are reflective of one another, but this is hard for many leaders to accept. Kareen chats about the tough love she gives her clients and why coaches should not shy away from tough topics. To bring about change, you have to reform systems, and this starts with how the leader views themselves. Our fascinating conversation also touches on creating spaces that foster growth, how leaders know when it is time to move on, and the value of walking away at the right time. You will be hard-pressed to find information of this caliber for free anywhere else, so tune in to hear it all!Key Points From This Episode:Introducing today's guest, elite coach, Kareen Walsh. The most common barriers Kareen sees executives face as they become increasingly successful.  An important question that you should ask yourself if you want to grow into a leader. Why you cannot disentangle business and personal growth; they are a reflection of one another. How Kareen shows clients the connection between personal and professional growth. What leaders who have reluctant teams can do to get their people on board with changes. Reminding executives and leaders that it took time to where they are. Why Kareen is unapologetic about walking away from the wrong type of client. The hilarious thing Kareen once told a client, and where he is today. As coaches, it is crucial to show up authentically and call it like it is. How Kareen equips leaders to have tough conversations with their teams. Four questions to ask to interrogate the quality of the work environment.  When you assess what is really going on, you make space for change and can pivot if needed. Creative, innovative leaders often do not consider exit strategies. What Kareen means by integrative performance management and why it is so important. When leaders show that they are working on themselves, it sets an example for their teams.  Where you can find Kareen online and get hold of her resources.  Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:Kareen WalshKareen Walsh on InstagramKareen Walsh on FacebookYour Badass JourneyBooks/Giveaways/WorkbooksBe a BadassLead with ValueThe Big LeapWork with ChrisGoodman CoachingChris Goodman

In This Episode You Will Learn About: Learning personal skills in your job Setting out as a solopreneur Finding work that makes you feel good The retrospective exercise Taking time to celebrate your wins Giving yourself permission to stop Finding the power of “no”   Resources: kareenwalsh.com Books/Giveaways/Workbooks: kareenwalsh.com/links Instagram: @kareenzwalsh Facebook: facebook.com/CoachKareenWalsh Podcast: kareenwalsh.com/podcast Visit squeezemassage.com/earn to learn more about franchising opportunities Text “PODCAST” to 310-496-8363 to get your questions answered on our Q&A segment or get coached on the show!   Show Notes: Kareen Walsh is a brilliant strategist. Some people are dreamers with a huge vision to create something game-changing. And then there are people like Kareen who take the vision and say, “How do we make this happen?” She hit the glass ceiling at age 22 and saw that the path she was on didn't lead to where she wanted to go. Her response? Leaving her successful career behind and applying the skills she had acquired into something that truly lit her up. These are the four steps she uses to help you create strategic alignment in whatever goals you're working on.   Question Highlights: Can you give us an overview of your background? Tell us about your four steps for strategic alignment. How can this be applied to different areas of your life? What are some of the biggest roadblocks when it comes to building a strategy? What's a belief or universal truth that you rely on when you're solving a problem?   Guest Bio: Kareen Walsh: Startup Advisor and Investor. Serial entrepreneur. Executive coach. Author. Podcaster.  She is the CEO and Founder of Revampologist, LLC, a seven-figure boutique consulting and coaching company. She has over 17 years of entrepreneurial and executive experience leading and advising industry leaders. Her unique approach to her service-based business is to shine a lens on people, process, and technology, all while maintaining a hyperfocus on leadership to help businesses scale.  Clients include trillion-dollar companies like BlackRock, Groupon, and Broadridge, as well as numerous startups preparing to launch. She has built her seven-figure business by helping source the expertise her clients need and coaching leaders on how to align what they love with what they do – and monetize it!  She believes that if you are not growing as a person, then your business won't grow either. Her books “Lead with Value” and “Be a Badass,” along with her podcast “Your Badass Journey” share her methods of personal and professional growth with the world.

#220: Sustaining and Scaling Your Business with Kareen Walsh   Today we are speaking with Entrepreneur/Business Growth Coach, Kareen Walsh.  Kareen is the CEO, Entrepreneur Business Advisor, Business Growth Coach, Published Author of Be A Badass and Lead with Value, and the host of Your Badass Journey podcast.  Kareen doesn't know how to turn off her solution-driven mind, so she has focused on how to monetize what she loves with what she does, every single day. She has led her 7 figure consulting and coaching business the last 8 years and is now venturing into a new entrepreneurial endeavor that will shape how businesses heal post 2020's pandemic year. Kareen loves to help other entrepreneurs grow, and does that by offering group and Elite 1:1 coaching programs to make sure they are leveraging her methods, and no BS approach to building their business.In this episode, we discuss: The importance of self-worth and how our beliefs, thoughts and mindset play a massive role in what we are able to create and bring to life.  That glass ceilings are meant to be broken and to never let the limitations of others become our own limitations. The power and possibility of communicating with our clients and asking what they need support with and knowing that by owning your worth, your story and who you are at the core, you are here to provide solutions that make a difference in the lives of others. Connect with Kareen:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalshInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/yourbadassjourneypodcast LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/kareenwalsh Website: https://www.kareenwalsh.comEmail: kzw@kareenwalsh.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/your-badass-journey/id1418696286 Connect or learn more from Kareen: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/levelup2021 Marsha Vanwynsberghe — Author, Speaker and Life Coach Marsha is the 6-time Bestselling Author of “When She Stopped Asking Why”.  She shares her lessons as a parent who dealt with teen substance abuse far past the level of normal experimentation. Through her programs, coaching and live events for women, Marsha is on a mission to teach you how to “Own Your Choices” in your own life.  She teaches women how to own their stories, lead themselves and pay it forward to others by creating businesses that serve, support and impact others.

#220: Sustaining and Scaling Your Business with Kareen Walsh   Today we are speaking with Entrepreneur/Business Growth Coach, Kareen Walsh.  Kareen is the CEO, Entrepreneur Business Advisor, Business Growth Coach, Published Author of Be A Badass and Lead with Value, and the host of Your Badass Journey podcast.  Kareen doesn’t know how to turn off her solution-driven mind, so she has focused on how to monetize what she loves with what she does, every single day. She has led her 7 figure consulting and coaching business the last 8 years and is now venturing into a new entrepreneurial endeavor that will shape how businesses heal post 2020’s pandemic year. Kareen loves to help other entrepreneurs grow, and does that by offering group and Elite 1:1 coaching programs to make sure they are leveraging her methods, and no BS approach to building their business.In this episode, we discuss: The importance of self-worth and how our beliefs, thoughts and mindset play a massive role in what we are able to create and bring to life.  That glass ceilings are meant to be broken and to never let the limitations of others become our own limitations. The power and possibility of communicating with our clients and asking what they need support with and knowing that by owning your worth, your story and who you are at the core, you are here to provide solutions that make a difference in the lives of others. Connect with Kareen:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalshInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/yourbadassjourneypodcast LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/kareenwalsh Website: https://www.kareenwalsh.comEmail: kzw@kareenwalsh.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/your-badass-journey/id1418696286 Connect or learn more from Kareen: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/levelup2021 Marsha Vanwynsberghe — Author, Speaker and Life Coach Marsha is the 6-time Bestselling Author of “When She Stopped Asking Why”.  She shares her lessons as a parent who dealt with teen substance abuse far past the level of normal experimentation. Through her programs, coaching and live events for women, Marsha is on a mission to teach you how to “Own Your Choices” in your own life.  She teaches women how to own their stories, lead themselves and pay it forward to others by creating businesses that serve, support and impact others.

#220: Sustaining and Scaling Your Business with Kareen Walsh   Today we are speaking with Entrepreneur/Business Growth Coach, Kareen Walsh.  Kareen is the CEO, Entrepreneur Business Advisor, Business Growth Coach, Published Author of Be A Badass and Lead with Value, and the host of Your Badass Journey podcast.  Kareen doesn’t know how to turn off her solution-driven mind, so she has focused on how to monetize what she loves with what she does, every single day. She has led her 7 figure consulting and coaching business the last 8 years and is now venturing into a new entrepreneurial endeavor that will shape how businesses heal post 2020’s pandemic year. Kareen loves to help other entrepreneurs grow, and does that by offering group and Elite 1:1 coaching programs to make sure they are leveraging her methods, and no BS approach to building their business.In this episode, we discuss: The importance of self-worth and how our beliefs, thoughts and mindset play a massive role in what we are able to create and bring to life.  That glass ceilings are meant to be broken and to never let the limitations of others become our own limitations. The power and possibility of communicating with our clients and asking what they need support with and knowing that by owning your worth, your story and who you are at the core, you are here to provide solutions that make a difference in the lives of others. Connect with Kareen:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalshInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/yourbadassjourneypodcast LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/kareenwalsh Website: https://www.kareenwalsh.comEmail: kzw@kareenwalsh.comPodcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/your-badass-journey/id1418696286 Connect or learn more from Kareen: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/levelup2021 Marsha Vanwynsberghe — Author, Speaker and Life Coach Marsha is the 6-time Bestselling Author of “When She Stopped Asking Why”.  She shares her lessons as a parent who dealt with teen substance abuse far past the level of normal experimentation. Through her programs, coaching and live events for women, Marsha is on a mission to teach you how to “Own Your Choices” in your own life.  She teaches women how to own their stories, lead themselves and pay it forward to others by creating businesses that serve, support and impact others.

Do you ever find yourself searching for more balance in your career, business, or life? Well my guest today is busting the myth of “balance” and sharing what we should be focusing on instead! Kareen Walsh is an author, podcast host, and the CEO of Revampologist. Her incredible career encompasses nearly 2 decades of entrepreneurial and executive experience leading and advising companies of all sizes. As a seasoned start up adviser, Kareen loves helping people align with the personal core values that allow them to thrive in the life they design. Purchase your Powerhouse Women Virtual Experience Tickets HERE    || CONNECT WITH KAREEN || instagram.comkareenzwalsh kareenwalsh.com   || CONNECT WITH POWERHOUSE WOMEN || instagram.com/powerhouse_women instagram.com/llindseyschwartz facebook.com/groups/powerhousewomencommunity www.powerhousewomen.co www.powerhousewomenevent.com

This episode I’m speaking to Kareen Walsh, founder of Revampologist, who’s talking about 3 questions to jump into aligned action.And if you want to go deeper on the topic, check out her freebie, 3 Tips to Work from Home by clicking here - https://www.kareenwalsh.com/Top3TipstoWorkFromHomeWant to start selling VIP Days? Check out our Virtual VIP Day Bootcamp, a 60 minute walkthrough of our 9 steps to creating and selling virtual VIP Days! Go here to grab your special podcast listener pricing - https://www.systemssavedme.com/podbootcampWant to read up more on this episode? Go to https://www.systemssavedme.com/210 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

You only have to read the first line of our guest’s bio to see why we were like long-lost soul sisters reunited the very first time we met: “Tiffany Carter takes the mystery out of making BIG money while doing something you love.” I love that so much, but it only gets better. This multi-millionaire entrepreneur went from a life of self-destruction to success, from abuse to abundance, despite the odds being entirely against her. And Tiffany’s mission runs deeper than helping women create wealth — her bigger purpose is to help women find their worth. So, after hearing all of that, I of course had to get Tiffany on the show, share her story, and tap into her wisdom.   Take Action: Learn more and find complete show notes for every episode at www.yourbadassjourney.com Get your FREE ProjectME Pocket Guide: “5 Steps to Creating Financial Freedom” Listen to me on Tiffany's Show: "Get Out of Your Own Way and Discover Your Purpose, with Guest, Kareen Walsh, 7-Figure Coach and Growth Strategist EP179" Follow the podcast on Instagram for more tips, advice, and inspiration: @yourbadassjourneypodcast Get your SLP Mastery Workbook   Connect with Tiffany Carter: Website: www.projectmewithtiffany.com Instagram: @projectme_with_tiffany Facebook: facebook.com/projectmewithtiffany YouTube: ProjectME TV with Tiffany Carter   Connect with Kareen: Website: kareenwalsh.com Instagram: @kareenzwalsh Facebook: facebook.com/CoachKareenWalsh Twitter: @kareenzwalsh LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kareenwalsh   Your Badass Journey is a production of Crate Media

Finding the clarity to lead with value This week’s guest is someone who is a master in all that she does, someone who sees things that most people don’t, in business and in people. She is a growth strategist and business developer, someone who can see your blind spots and help you get clear on all that you are capable of. Kareen Walsh is a leadership expert and helps people lead with value in all aspects of their life—whether it is at home, in relationships, or in their own business. Listen to this episode to hear how to lead with value, how to drown out the noise around you, find clarity in what you truly want, and how to give yourself permission to show up—and fumble. Listen now Show up authentically We start off the episode discussing the most important first step to leading with value—working on yourself first so you can show up authentically in your own core values. Kareen discusses how she had to go through her own self journey and see how she was overexerting herself and putting others needs first before she finally chose to take time for herself. She committed to her own self-improvement so that she could truly help others with their own. Getting in touch with your core values She discusses the first thing most people skip when trying to lead—clarity. When it comes to clarity being surrounded by so much noise we experience daily, it can be overwhelming to decipher what you actually want—and not just what your peers influence you to think you want. Letting go of what no longer serves you, to make space for what does Your business is 100% reflection of how you lead it, and Kareen shares the three things that can help you figure out your core values and lead in a way that portrays them. We discuss the freedom of change, how to identify when to end something that no longer serves you, and how to leverage your self-development to make the impact you want. Kareen talks about her own experience in mastering herself and leadership, her core values, and how the quickest way to grow your business is to grow yourself. Kareen WalshKareen Walsh provides solutions, methods, and services to help people to help them achieve what they truly desire in life and business. She is an entrepreneur, executive coach, author, podcaster, and helps people leverage their own strategies and strengths to be top performers in their own industries. Her mission is to help clients move forward and create a business and life that they have always dreamed up—to level them up and guide them in their growth.Quotes:“Clarity to me is really allowing yourself th space to explore what is true to you.” -Kareen 6:05“Honestly, nobody cares if you have it all together; they care that you’re actually stepping into an authentic space about yourself and sharing that you don’t know and you’re deciding to explore.” -Kareen 8:15“If you can stand in alignment with who you are and what you do, the “buts” don’t matter.” -Kareen 10:42“We are always either do things out of love or fear.” 21:29“Love in the workplace is truly caring about everybody’s expertise in the room and letting them shine.” -Kareen 23:22“If you are sitting in the fear of the discovery of what you will find on the other side, I guarantee it is much lighter than the heaviness that you feel burdened by right now.” -Kareen 26:55“Everything that I have accomplished for myself is because I then decide in the moment that when I’m feeling that elated energy, that connected energy, the truth of who I am, I ask myself ‘how can I act in this state of being every single day going forward.’” -Kareen 30:08“Ending something is not graceful, and it doesn’t have to be. You get to define how it goes.” -Kareen 32:02“I get so excited to end something in my life that no longer belongs.” 32:53“If you don’t create the space, you can’t allow the new to come in.” -Kareen 33:13“If you do not take a moment to really get your thoughts down, then that’s why you’re walking around in chaos and overwhelm.” -Kareen 33:45“As soon as you move your body and connect with it, you actually have clearer thoughts as to what it is you truly want.” -Kareen 36:24

In This Episode You Will Learn About: The mindset of a solopreneur and a c-suite executive Creating a plan before the crisis Knowing your clients’ needs Leveraging partnerships Hiring responsibly and valuing human capital Creating a work from home code of conduct Giving in a down economy   Resources: Learn more: kareenwalsh.com Instagram: instagram.com/kareenzwalsh LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kareenwalsh Read: "Lead With Value" Work from home tips: kareenwalsh.com/resources   Show Notes: Today I get to sit down with a good friend of mine, Kareen Walsh. She’s a serial entrepreneur who has accomplished so much in her life. She is an executive coach for huge companies, startups, and solopreneurs, as well as a business growth strategist and the author of the best-selling book "Lead With Value." We talk about how to lead in a crisis economy as we all navigate these uncertain times — from how the workforce is changing, working from home, and work-life integration. Question Highlights:   What do you do for companies in a normal economy? Why can you effectively coach c-suite executives and solopreneurs? Out of people, process, and technology, is any one of those more important than the others? What are some things small businesses can do right now to survive? Should you drop your pricing or should you hold tight and get better with your bonus or messaging? How do companies manage companies and cashflow with keeping their employees? What are your tips for working from home? How do you give in a restricted economy?     Guest Bio: Kareen is the CEO and Head Strategist of Revampologist – A Strategic Growth consulting and coaching practice that helps thought leaders build 7-8 figure businesses with ease. She has 15+ years of experience coaching C-Suite executives to help them up-level their leadership stance, conceive and implement business growth strategies, and lead initiatives that result in high-quality customer experience. Kareen Walsh has mastered integrating her heart of service and her business savvy to assist entrepreneurs and C-suite leaders of any industry align what they love with what they do every single day. Kareen believes income can always be earned, but fulfillment is what each of us should strive to attain. Kareen can disarm you with undivided attention and help you quickly jump into action after one short interaction. You are going to want to hear how Kareen shares her latest methods for growth in her book, “Lead with Value: How Leaders Unleash Their Vision, Empower Their Team, and Evolve Their Business,” because you will love how her relatable, practical practice will help you lead. She is also the author of the self-development book: Be A Badass, Six Tools to Up-Level Your Life. As the host of Your Badass Journey Podcast, she shares tools, tips, and conversations to help you align what you love with what you do in all areas of your life and business.   Follow me on social media @ChrisWHarder on Instagram and check out www.ForTheLoveOfMoney.com

#027 It's A Great Time For Innovation, host William Glass sits down with Kareen Walsh in a deep discussion about how to align your passion with your work. Kareen shares the tools and tips she uses with her executive clients to help them excel in all facets of their life. While COVID has left most of us stuck at home Kareen sees this time as an opportunity to innovate and excel. Kareen Walsh is CEO of Revampologist with 17+ Years of entrepreneurial and executive experience leading and advising industry leaders in companies of all sizes. Clients include trillion-dollar companies like BlackRock to Start-Up Companies getting ready to launch and scale their business. Kareen approaches each business with a lens on People, Process, and Technology and hyper-focus on Leadership to move the needle. As a seasoned coach/mentor/and start-up adviser, Kareen loves helping people align with their core values that allow them to thrive in the life they design, leverage lessons learned, and build habits that keep them in action daily. Resources - www.kareenwalsh.com/resources LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/kareenwalsh Instagram - www.instagram.com/kareenzwalsh _ Become a supporter: https://www.patreon.com/wpg3 - Instagram: https://instagram.com/siliconalleypodcast - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/siliconalleypodcast - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSF39MO5e4z1SX9tYZEhNgA Theme music is Million Voices by Brett Miller - www.brettmillerofficial.com Ostrich is a personal finance app that uses the power of positive social accountability to help you define, set, & achieve your financial goals. Sign Up for Ostrich at https://www.getostrich.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theostrichapp LinkedIn: https://LinkedIn.com/company/theostrichapp Silicon Alley is a Financial Glass Production --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/silicon-alley/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/silicon-alley/support

In this episode, I speak with Kareen Walsh, founder of Revampologist, you will learn that getting clarity about your small business is about the why and what. Your strategy shows you how. Don't build your business on the how or else you will always be hung up on that.  To be successful in business, you need to stay nimble, check-in with yourself every 90-days, and get very clear on what actions you need to take daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly.  You will also learn that the first two action steps towards building a higher level of fulfillment as you go after achieving your goals are to 1. Get clarity around what you really want and, 2. put a strategy together to achieve it.  And always keep your eye on the goal. Resources: Learn more: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/leadwithvaluesigned Instagram:  Https://www.instagram.com/kareenzwalsh Podcast: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/podcast Resources: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/resources BONUS: The first ten people who go to https://www.kareenwalsh.com/leadwithvaluesigned get a free signed copy of her book. ---------- Renée Warren is an award-winning entrepreneur, a 7-figure business starter, and the founder of We Wild Women, a business dedicated to helping women launch their dream business. She previously founded an industry-recognized PR agency that worked with funded technology startups from South Africa to San Diego. She's a mom to Irish Twins (not planned), a published author, and a drummer. Rate, review, and subscribe on Apple Podcast “I love Into The Wild, and think it's the best thing since sliced bread.”

The ongoing global health crisis means that many of us are working from home. Our personal and professional roles (that used to be so separate and clearly defined) have begun to blend in this time of what Kareen Walsh calls work-life integration. What practical things can we do set up processes for working remotely? How can we stay connected and keep our vibe high during this period of isolation? And what can we do to find a little certainty, even in such an uncertain time? Kareen is the Growth Strategist and Business Coach behind Revampologist, a consulting firm that works with executives and entrepreneurs on how to define a clear vision and achieve their goals with ease. She has worked in a range of industries, and her client roster includes BlackRock, Illuminent and Oppenheimer Funds. Kareen is also the host of Your Badass Journey, a podcast focused on helping you integrate what you love with what you do—daily! On this episode of Destined to Be, Kareen joins us to share her expertise in working in remote environments, offering advice on setting up a designated space and time for work in your home. She explains why it’s crucial to give yourself 30 minutes to recharge every day during this period of isolation, challenging us to use this time to cultivate an appreciation for the life we have. Listen in for Kareen’s NOT TODAY practice for flipping fear on its head and learn how to leverage your resourcefulness in this uncertain time. Key Takeaways Kareen’s background + experience working in remote environments Why it’s crucial to designate separate space and time for work and learning at home Kareen’s insight on creating a screen-free recharging station to clear your mind How to lean into certainty in uncertain times to become resourceful + strategic Why Kareen is choosing to lean into resourcefulness and generosity in her business How we can use this time to cultivate an appreciation for the life we have Kareen’s NOT TODAY practice of flipping fear on its head Kareen’s advice on taking a deep breath to pause before we react to triggers Connect with Kareen Kareen’s Website Kareen on Instagram Kareen on LinkedIn Your Badass Journey Connect with Jeremiah & Mallory Destined to Be Jeremiah on LinkedIn Jeremiah on Facebook Jeremiah on Instagram Mallory on Instagram REVOLUTION WELLNESS Facebook Group Resources Kareen’s 30-Minute Acute Care Call Kareen’s Work from Home Framework Kareen’s High-Vibe Tribe Challenge Being Peace by Thich Nhat Hanh Side Hustle: From Idea to Income in 27 Days by Chris Guillebeau

The guest for this episode is Kareen Walsh.   She is the CEO and Head Strategist for Revampologist - a strategic growth consulting and coaching practice that helps thought leaders build 7-8 figure businesses with ease.  Kareen has 15+ years of experience coaching C-suite executives to help them up-level their leadership stance, conceive and implement business growth strategies, and lead initiatives that result in high quality customer experience.  Kareen loves to connect, here's how you can do that: https://www.kareenwalsh.com Instagram FB @coachkareenwalsh LinkedIn Receive Kareen's free download on how to manage remote teams can be found here:  Work From Home Framework Connect with Kyle https://www.kyledepiesse.com Instagram

I'm back to bringing you some amazing friends who totally align with the dream hustle audience and this first conversation is a great example of that. Kareen Walsh is a business strategist, she's my business strategist and today we talk about how Kareen got her business started, as well she shares her strategies to help you break out your goals and create the roadmap! Learn more about Kareen here: www.kareenwalsh.comKareen's Lead with Value Book: https://www.amazon.com/Lead-Value-Leaders-Unleash-Business-ebook/dp/B07NPYJ9TQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1550725588&sr=1-1&keywords=Kareen+walshKaren's free Life Mastery Guide: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/slpmasteryhttps://www.shanarecker.com Have you unlocked my FREEBIE VAULT yet? https://www.shanarecker.com/offers/z7FCSXXf/checkout

How you squeeze your lemons says a lot about you… Are you someone who squeezes a lemon by putting in little effort, and you know you’re likely leaving some juice behind, but that little extra juice isn’t worth the extra work? Or are you someone who squeezes the crap out of that lemon, not wanting to waste a single drop of the juice or pulp? Most people fall into the first category of “squeezers.” If you knew that extra effort was the difference between you being a 6-figure earning woman and a 7-figure earning woman, would you do it then? I used to leave behind some juice in my first five years of business; I was too overworked and tired to have the energy to squeeze anymore. This was also the very reason why my business wasn’t growing, yes I made great money but not life-changing real wealth. One of the first things my long-time business coach said to me was, “if you want to be a millionaire, you gotta think and act like one.” To break down what that looks like, I brought on a 7-figure Coach and Growth Strategist, Kareen Walsh, she is also the proud creator of the lemon-squeezing analogy. She had no idea before the interview of my extreme love for using analogies when teaching. Kareen Walsh has mastered integrating her heart of service and her business savvy to assist entrepreneurs and C-suite leaders of any industry align what they love with what they do every single day. Kareen believes income can always be earned, but fulfillment is what each of us should strive to attain. Kareen can disarm you with undivided attention and help you quickly jump into action after one short interaction. Kareen loves to connect, here’s how. All things Kareen: www.kareenwalsh.com Grab Your Gift from Kareen: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/resources Follow on Instagram: @kareenzwalsh Follow on Facebook: @coachkareenwalsh Connect on linkedin: linkedin.com/in/kareenzwalsh Welcome to ProjectME the Podcast with your host Tiffany Carter, who takes the mystery out of making BIG money. A former NBC and CBS TV journalist, turned multi-millionaire entrepreneur, teaching you all things wealth, health, worth, and business. You can follow Tiffany on Instagram @projectme_with_tiffany  on Facebook @projectmewithtiffany and watch her TV episodes on ProjectME TV with Tiffany Carter on YouTube.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE: 10 Listeners of this show can get a free signed copy of the book LEAD WITH VALUE by visiting www.kareenwalsh.com/leadwithvaluesigned Our guest Kareen Walsh, the CEO and Head Strategist of Revampologist, is a coach who works with thought leaders to build 7-to-8 figure brands. She is also the author of LEAD WITH VALUE and the host of YOUR BADASS JOURNEY podcast. In this episode of Beyond the Image, host James Patrick and Kareen discuss the importance of moving from being a reactionary entrepreneur to a vision-focused leader. During the conversation, Kareen shares applicable steps and practices listeners can take action on to begin this process for themselves. Listeners can connect with Kareen at www.KareenWalsh.com or on Instagram @KareenZWalsh REMINDER: 10 Listeners of this show can get a free signed copy of the book LEAD WITH VALUE by visiting www.kareenwalsh.com/leadwithvaluesigned Be sure to subscribe for future episodes discussing how you develop your brand, market your brand and further profit from your brand as an entrepreneur!  Thanks for tuning in!

In this episode I share the people who I've invested in since starting my coaching business in 2016, how much those investments were (and how scary for some of them), why I chose each one and how they've impacted me and my business success. I'm grateful for them all of them

Today Kareen Walsh joins me on the podcast! She is the CEO and Founder of Revampologist, and as an entrepreneur, executive coach, author, and podcaster, Kareen strives to help each individual and business she works with up-level and achieve their desired outcomes.   How do you create more clarity in your business while building? Build consciously.   As you'll learn from today's guest Kareen Walsh, conscious leadership is about creating an equal exchange environment. Kareen Walsh is an Executive Coach, author of bestselling book, Lead with Value and Founder of Revampologist. Listening to this episode will help you grow, gain clarity and achieve your desired outcomes in your business.     We talk about:   -Why learning how to get out of survival mode is an essential tool to succeeding. - How to identify what makes you uncomfortable and leverage it to uplevel your business -The importance of being an authentic leader and the steps to get there -How to create an equal exchange environment and lead with value           Stay Connected with Kareen: kareenwalsh.com @kareenzwalsh on instagram @coachkareenwalsh on facebook LinkedIn.com/Kareenwalsh  

Kareen Walsh is a catalyst for growth. Her purpose, whether working with her to address a specific problem or goal, a lifelong obstacle or dream, is to help you get the clarity you are looking for and empower you with actionable tools to pursue aligning what you love with what you do, every single day. Empathetic, intuitive, grounded and determined, Kareen approaches each client with compassion, vision, authenticity and unwavering support. Her strategic framework will challenge you to think critically about who you are, how you lead, and what impact you want to have through your business; her custom strategies will provide you with a plan that make your personal and business goals attainable; her energy will inspire you to be confident and have fun along the way. Kareen's background is textured by diverse experiences both inside and outside the corporate landscape, providing her with a tactical toolbox of industry knowledge, connections and perspective. Her personal history coupled with her innate ability to connect with people and motivate change, make her more than a coach or adviser, they make her the start of your next chapter. Through Revampologist, LLC, Kareen consults with corporations and and coaches executives on how to achieve their goals with ease. She helps strip out the noise and focus on the end goal. Her work with BlackRock, OFI, Oath/AOL, ideel/Groupon, Cherry Creek Mortgage, Advent/SSAS, Uncorked Kitchen and Wine Bar, plus many others, has given her the edge to walk into any environment and have an impact of growth on the strategy at hand. Her podcast is an outlet to share the impact of others. She is always looking for new ways to connect, have impact and grow, via speaking engagements or customized training for your team. Do not hesitate to reach out to see how she and her team can help you up-Level today.

Kareen Walsh is the CEO of Revampologust, LLC, a strategic growth consulting and executive leadership coaching firm. She is the host of Your Badass Journey Podcast and Amazon best-selling author of Lead with Value: How Leaders Unleash Their Vision, Empower Teams, and Evolve Their Business. Through her coaching and consulting firm she has worked with large organizations like BlackRock, Oppenheimer, IRC, and Aol/Oath. As a Growth Strategist and Start Up Advisor, she has worked with Uncorked Kitchen and Wine Bar, ideel (Groupon), Home Science Tools, and Illuminent, LLC. Her zone of genius and ability to help individuals and businesses accelerate growth by leveraging her practical strategies, ability to remove obstacles, and get to the root of what needs to happen next in order to achieve a thriving life and run a sustainable business. She believes if you lead with value, your growth is unstoppable.

In New YorkConcrete jungle where dreams are made ofThere's nothin' you can't doNow you're in New YorkThese lyrics sum up my business mastery weekend with Kareen Walsh in NYC. I left feeling like anything was POSSIBLE. And that to make a Million Dollar revenue-generating business doing what I love was going to take more than I thought. I share my thoughts on what I learned over the weekend and why it literally took me out for a few days after I got home. To learn more about Kareen and the Business Mastery Weekend click here: https://www.kareenwalsh.com/To book a business and brand strategy call with Shana click here: https://shanarecker.mykajabi.com/offers/TUpkEesY/checkout

Another Achiever Arena Chat on Your Badass Journey Podcast with Kareen Walsh. Kareen shares one of the best lessons she had to learn to build the life she envisioned and is now sharing it with you! Learning how to empower yourself from your disappointments is key to living a fulfilled life. Tune in to hear how.   If you want more information, or the steps that Kareen shares, you can find the content from this episode here:  https://www.kareenwalsh.com/single-post/2019/09/11/Getting-empowered-from-disappointment   If you have questions you would like Kareen to answer in one of the Achiever Arena Chats, send your topic to hello@kareenwalsh.com

Before Kareen and I began our conversation, my guides were chatting up her guides and I knew that we would be delving into a deeper conversation about money than I have ever done on the Own Your Intuitive podcast. Now, this conversation about money was exactly what my entrepreneurial brain needed to hear that day, so I know it’s going to land pretty powerfully with you all as well. On top of some game shifting money language that was discussed, Kareen also shares: How she found her spiritual mentor in the most synchronistic way The difference between revenue and wages (this was big for me) How important forgiveness is in her life, and what she did to shift her relationship with her Mom What living multiple past lives in the present feels like for her Her transformational leadership model When Kareen and I finished this podcast episode I was pumped. Not only because Kareen is AMAZING, but because I learned a very important lesson through her. One of the things that I love about Kareen is she is always connected to her stardust and how she can help you, done in the most authentic way. That level of confidence and knowing is a beautiful gift, and one I hope you can take from this interview as well. **More about Kareen: ** Kareen Walsh is the CEO and founder of Revampologist, LLC, a seven figure consultancy focused on building long standing sustainable practices with her clients. She has strategically advised and coached industry leaders on how to construct successful teams, build and run operations that scale, and deliver winning products that drive profitable growth. She has 15+ years of experience coaching C-Suite executives to help them up-level their leadership stance, conceive and implement growth strategies, and lead initiatives that result in high-quality customer experience. Kareen knows how to cement a vision, communicate it across the organization, and mobilize distributed teams to collaborate and execute in a way that engenders confidence and trust among colleagues of all levels of seniority. As a master facilitator and coach, she has developed the VXL Mastermind for industry leaders to develop growth and exit strategies leveraging her methods and network to execute their action plans with ease. Kareen believes if you lead with value at every exchange, your life and business will grow exponentially. She shares some of her baseline tactics in her book, Lead with Value: How Leaders Unleash their Vision, Empower their Team, and Evolve their Business. She loves to help entrepreneurs and leaders articulate their personal leadership vision and build a value-exchange environment that focuses on growth and optimal performance across the firm. Kareen has focused on the triad integration of People, Process, and Technology in her area of mastery so her team and her clients benefit daily from her arenas of excellence, her master training, and her practical methods that help people jump into action and achieve their goals. Kareen has experience working with clients like BlackRock, Groupon, and AOL/Oath. She has also helped start-ups from inception through launch phases, as well as assisted businesses to scale in Year Two and Three in order to drive sustainable revenue year-over-year. Where to find her: https://www.Instagram.com/Kareenzwalsh https://www.LinkedIn.com/Kareenwalsh https://www.Facebook.com/coachkareenwalsh

When you compromise on what you truly want in order to live that ultimate life, you receive compromised results. Let's discuss how compromising has it's benefits and its hurdles for breakthrough on the other side. This talk is to help you get clear on what you truly desire and be clear on where you would compromise to take a step forward, and still keep your eye on your ultimate life. To connect deeper with Kareen Walsh - follow her on Instagram @kareenzwalsh or email her at hello@kareenwalsh.com kareenwalsh.com

In this episode I interview Kareen Walsh on her story, growing a business, money mindset and so much more. You can learn more about her at: Website: www.kareenwalsh.com Podcast: www.yourbadassjourney.com Lead with Value Book: www.leadwithvaluebook.com Follow on Instagram: @kareenzwalsh Follow on Facebook: @coachkareenwalsh Connect on linkedin: linkedin.com/in/kareenzwalsh Podcast: @yourbadassjourney on Instagram Thank you for tuning in! Please subscribe, rate and review the podcast! Sound: Bensound.com Find your host, Leah Peters at Leahpetersfitness.com FB Group: Diet Smarter & Train Like An Athlete

In this episode I interview Kareen Walsh on her story, growing a business, money mindset and so much more. You can learn more about her at: Website: www.kareenwalsh.com Podcast: www.yourbadassjourney.com Lead with Value Book: www.leadwithvaluebook.com Follow on Instagram: @kareenzwalsh Follow on Facebook: @coachkareenwalsh Connect on linkedin: linkedin.com/in/kareenzwalsh Podcast: @yourbadassjourney on Instagram Thank you for tuning in! Please subscribe, rate and review the podcast! Sound: Bensound.com Find your host, Leah Peters at Leahpetersfitness.com FB Group: Diet Smarter & Train Like An Athlete

What are your core values? Do you show up with honesty & kindness for others but not for yourself? Do you feel like you're a great leader in you work or for your family but you aren't leading yourself? Today I'm talking with leadership expert Kareen Walsh about how to become a more effective leader of yourself and you won't want to miss it! One of my favorite parts of the conversation is when Kareen reminds us all to give ourselves permission to show up as the version of ourselves we want to be TODAY. She talks us through what we can do when we know our core values, or we know what we want them to be, but we aren't making choices accordingly. https://primalpotential.com/592/ Connect with Kareen Kareen's 8-Week Business Masterclass Lead with Value Follow Kareen on Instagram EB's Resources: Join me for the 1 Week Spring Cleaning Mindset e-series!  Chasing Cupcakes Join the Primal Potential Facebook group Hop on the wait list for the Summer 2019 12 Weeks to Transformation

Resources: Learn more: (http://www.kareenwalsh.com/) Instagram: @kareenzwalsh Read: Lead With Value ; Be A Badass ; A Return to Love by Marianne Williamson Listen: Your Badass Journey Mastermind: workhardplayhardpodcast.com/mastermind Connect with us on Instagram: @kimmurgatroyd | @robmurgatroyd Want to wind down after a long day? Try the Organifi Gold Superfood Powder for 20% off using discount code "WORKHARDPLAYHARD" at (http://organifishop.com/) Improve your sleep and more: Chili Technology Today Kareen Walsh joins me on the podcast! She is the CEO and Founder of Revampologist, and as an entrepreneur, executive coach, author, and podcaster, Kareen strives to help each individual and business she works with up-level and achieve their desired outcomes by leveraging the strategies, methods, and communication skills of top performers in the industry. I wanted to have Kareen on the show because she is one of the fastest business minds I know, and she thinks so strategically. In This Conversation We Cover: [1:20] Where she got her name from [3:15] Growing up in the Lebanese culture [7:43] What she wanted to be as a child [11:26] How she helps her clients [19:09] Hiding behind work and achievement [21:10] Fear around success [26:46] Breaking clients out of the story [29:39] Kareen’s definition of a badass [30:53] Being more in her masculine [36:50] Loving Italy + strategies for more human connection [40:48] Rapid Fire with Kareen Walsh

Resources: Learn more: kareenwalsh.com Instagram: @kareenzwalsh Read: Lead With Value ; Be A Badass ; A Return to Love by Marianne Williamson Listen: Your Badass Journey Mastermind: workhardplayhardpodcast.com/mastermind Connect with us on Instagram: @kimmurgatroyd | @robmurgatroyd Want to wind down after a long day? Try the Organifi Gold Superfood Powder for 20% off using discount code "WORKHARDPLAYHARD" at organifishop.com Improve your sleep and more: Chili Technology   Today Kareen Walsh joins me on the podcast! She is the CEO and Founder of Revampologist, and as an entrepreneur, executive coach, author, and podcaster, Kareen strives to help each individual and business she works with up-level and achieve their desired outcomes by leveraging the strategies, methods, and communication skills of top performers in the industry. I wanted to have Kareen on the show because she is one of the fastest business minds I know, and she thinks so strategically.   In This Conversation We Cover: [1:20] Where she got her name from [3:15] Growing up in the Lebanese culture [7:43] What she wanted to be as a child [11:26] How she helps her clients [19:09] Hiding behind work and achievement [21:10] Fear around success [26:46] Breaking clients out of the story [29:39] Kareen's definition of a badass [30:53] Being more in her masculine [36:50] Loving Italy + strategies for more human connection [40:48] Rapid Fire with Kareen Walsh

In this episode, host James Patrick chats with growth strategist and author of the book Lead With Value, Kareen Walsh. The two discuss the problems that exists with poor leadership, how entrepreneurs can identify that gap and work towards elevating their leadership to have impact. The goal for listeners is to get out of the […]

Today I want to explore one of the BIG questions that comes up a lot in my work: What’s next? How do you uplevel their life and career, all while finding the right support structure and avoiding burnout? A critical aspect of growth is that it’s difficult to navigate on your own, and that’s really why coaching exists in the professional world, in the fitness world, or any other area of life. And coaching is becoming so prevalent in so many different arenas because it is the fastest way to jump into action towards whatever it is you’re trying to achieve.   To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: YourBadassJourney.com   Resources: Kareenwalsh.com To Apply for the VXL 90 Day Mastermind 2019 with Kareen Walsh click here: www.kareenwalsh.com/vxl Connect with me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter Watch my videos on YouTube Read: Be a Badass: Six Tools to Up-Level Your Life   Your Badass Journey is produced by Podcast Masters

I found myself asking, how do I grow as a leader? How do I maximize what I’m doing now, but also continue to learn the avenues of business that I have not mastered yet? And what I’ve found is that there’s no better way to do it than walking alongside and with others who are seeking the same and are willing to stand up and support each other through it – and that is how I define Masterminding! Today I get into the kinds of masterminds that offer the most value, how you can assess whether a mastermind is right for you, and how you can give and get the most out of your mastermind experience.   To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: YourBadassJourney.com   Resources: Kareenwalsh.com To Apply for the VXL 90 Day Mastermind 2019 with Kareen Walsh click here: www.kareenwalsh.com/vxl Connect with me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter Watch my videos on YouTube Read: Be a Badass: Six Tools to Up-Level Your Life   Your Badass Journey is produced by Podcast Masters

I am so excited about this week’s guest! I am talking to Kareen Walsh, executive coach and author of the book “Be A Badass: 6 Tools to Level Up Your Life. She also launched her podcast “Your Badass Journey” recently! I worked with Kareen in the past and her advice and support was a lifeline when I was dealing with a stressful situation. And I just know she can help you too. We talk about how to advocate for yourself in conflict situations, including how to stay true to your own needs.

Kareen Walsh, Solutions Strategist and Coach, stops by the People Stack to talk about making your software choices better fit your organization's needs, how to address communication breakdowns between Project Managers and the technical staff they depend on, how to better frame necessary changes, finding clarity of direction when you feel a need for change and much more Special Guest: Kareen Walsh.

Kareen Walsh is a Solutions Strategist, Career Coach, Author, and Personal Adviser. She has been running her own coaching and consulting practice, Revampologist, for the last 5 years servicing clients in Colorado, New York, Montana, and San Francisco.

Today we explore how fear affects us in business through the eyes of the incredible industry experts who have shared their wisdom on the show, as well as a subject matter expert who offers a lot of insight into the psychology of fear and motivation: Kareen Walsh, Founder and Solutions Strategist at Revampologist Andy Musliner, Founder and CEO of InRoad Toys Greg Johnston, SVP and Creative Director at AgencyQ Will Choi, President and CEO of Vertical Apps Dr. Mary Lamia, a psychologist who has spent her career studying and encouraging emotional awareness. She is the author of numerous books for kids, teenagers, and adults, including What Motivates Getting Things Done, as well as the upcoming The Upside of Shame. Resources: Dr. Mary Lamia: MaryLamia.com What Motivates Getting Things Done: Procrastination, Emotions, and Success The Upside of Shame: Therapeutic Interventions Using the Positive Aspects of a "Negative" Emotion Will Choi: VerticalApps.com Greg Johnston: AgencyQ Andy Musliner: InRoadToys.com Kareen Walsh: Revampologist.com

Challenges in a business vary, but it always falls within one of three buckets: people, process or technology. In the last episode, we talked to Kareen Walsh, Founder of Revampologist, about the People component to this triad. Today, we’re diving into Process and Technology – specifically, how organizations need to understand and work through the ever-changing dynamics that impact these two components in order to ensure forward momentum You will learn: Process management through change Understanding and balancing internal and external (i.e. customer) technology needs and it’s alignment to an organization’s business objectives. Importance of data and measurement in optimizing technology and overall operations. Resources: Learn more at (https://revampologist.com/) Connect with Kareen: LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram Production & Development for Strategic Momentum by Podcast Masters

Welcome to the first episode of the Strategic Momentum podcast! Every month, we’ll be sharing the perspectives, recommendations, and approaches that progressive executives have used to break through their business inertia and move their businesses forward. These interviews will be with leaders across a variety of roles and industries because valuable insights should – and do – come from everywhere. Challenges in a business vary but it always falls within one of three buckets: people, process or technology. With the people part of this three-legged stool, personal and professional fit are critical, but there’s often a gap. Kareen Walsh from Revampologist shares her perspective on how companies need to ‘Mind the Gap’ in order to get that necessary alignment to drive company success. We will learn: The key gaps that plague an organization How to diagnose and assess the personal and professional challenges of ‘people’ that impact a firm’s performance Addressing the issue of fit to drive towards business and team alignment Resources: Learn more at (https://revampologist.com/) Connect with Kareen: LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram