The Bandwich Tapes

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with multi-instrumentalist, singer, songwriter, and producer Eliot Lewis for a conversation about rhythm, versatility, technology, and the experiences that shaped his remarkable career.Eliot began as a drummer and still considers rhythm the foundation of everything he does. We talk about how that early connection to the drums influenced his work as a guitarist, bassist, keyboardist, singer, and songwriter, as well as the unspoken communication that develops when musicians spend years learning how to play together.We also explore Eliot's years with Average White Band, where he grew as a performer and lead vocalist while sharing stages with artists including Earth, Wind & Fire, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, War, and the Ohio Players. Eliot discusses his work with producer and songwriter Dan Hartman, playing on Tina Turner's “The Best,” and learning the value of becoming a musical chameleon who can understand and support many different artists.A large part of our conversation focuses on Eliot's time with Hall & Oates and Live from Daryl's House. He explains how the musicians learned and recorded new material with very little rehearsal, why Daryl Hall wanted the performances to remain spontaneous, and what Eliot learned from working with guests such as Robert Fripp, CeeLo Green, Booker T. Jones, Grace Potter, and KT Tunstall.Eliot also takes us inside his current solo live-looping show. He describes the technical and musical challenge of creating the sound and dynamics of a full band by himself, the importance of remaining in the moment, and why technology should always serve the song rather than replace the musicianship underneath it.Key TakeawaysEliot still considers himself a drummer first, and rhythm remains the foundation of his work on every instrument.His live-looping show is designed to create the feeling and dynamics of a three- or four-piece band rather than simply repeat accompaniment.Learning several instruments helped Eliot understand how each musical role fits into an arrangement without competing for space.His years with Average White Band developed his confidence as a singer, songwriter, performer, and collaborative band member.Working on Live from Daryl's House required strong ears, quick preparation, trust between musicians, and an ability to respond in the moment.Eliot believes technology is most effective when it supports the song, but a performer must still be able to play and communicate when the technology fails.Running a solo career means balancing music with booking, travel, marketing, arranging, production, and the many other responsibilities that happen away from the stage.Music from the EpisodeRetroactive - Eliot LewisJetstream - Eliot LewisSonic Soldier - Eliot LewisHelpless - Eliot LewisAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and other creative artists about their careers, influences, collaborations, musical craft, and the experiences that shape their work.Connect with the ShowQuestions, comments, or guest suggestions:contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Barns Courtney for a wide-ranging conversation about performance, songwriting, musicianship, ambition, and the strange balance between control and chaos.Barns talks about the solo acoustic shows he has been playing and how stripping away the band has changed his relationship with an audience.  Without a fixed stage plan, every night becomes more unpredictable, more conversational, and more dependent on what is happening in the room. We discuss why great performances need an element of risk and how those shows have reminded him not to let ambition overshadow gratitude.We also talk about his ongoing work as a singer and the discipline required to maintain an instrument that is constantly changing. Barns reflects on vocal lessons, life on the road, the financial realities of touring, and the challenge of building a sustainable career without losing the joy that made him want to perform in the first place.  Barns also takes us inside the making of his new album with producer and multi-instrumentalist Jonathan Wilson. He describes being challenged to improve as a musician, learning when to loosen his grip on an arrangement, and discovering how a fresh perspective can reveal what a song actually needs.Our conversation moves through meditation, neurodivergence, social media, aging, creative discipline, and the story behind “Glitter & Gold,” which was recorded with one microphone, an out-of-tune piano, filing cabinets, and whatever sounds were available in the room. Throughout it all, Barns returns to one idea: the real purpose of performing is not to prove how impressive you are, but to connect with people and bring them some measure of joy.Key TakeawaysBarns continues to take vocal lessons and views singing as an instrument that must be constantly relearned as the body changes.His acoustic shows have created more space for improvisation, audience interaction, humor, and genuine unpredictability.He believes a performance can become too controlled, and that risk is often necessary for a show to feel transcendent.Working with Jonathan Wilson challenged Barns to become more proficient as an instrumentalist and more open to outside ideas.Barns now approaches songwriting with greater discipline, comparing the process to fishing: showing up regularly without knowing what will surface.The live album captured the sound of a band that had developed trust, instinct, and a shared musical language through touring together.Barns has come to see performance less as a display of ambition and more as an opportunity to connect with people and bring them joy.Music from the EpisodeFun Never Ends - Barns Courtney99 - Barns CourtneyGlitter & Gold - Barns CourtneyAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and other creative artists about their careers, influences, collaborations, musical craft, and the experiences that shape their work.Connect with the ShowQuestions, comments, or guest suggestions:contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Terri Lyne Carrington to discuss her remarkable career, her artistic evolution, and her ambitious new album, Trip the Night Fantastic. Widely recognized as one of the most influential drummers, composers, producers, and educators working today, Terri shares how groove, storytelling, and social consciousness have become inseparable parts of her creative voice.We talk about the concept behind Trip the Night Fantastic, which Terri describes as a groove-centered project created for difficult times. Our conversation explores the relationship between dance, rhythm, and emotional connection, and how groove can often reach listeners before lyrics ever do. Terri reflects on jazz's historical relationship with dance music and why reconnecting with that tradition felt important for this project.We also dive into her journey as an artist and how life experience eventually led her to fully integrate her identity, values, and artistic work. Drawing on lessons learned from mentors such as Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock, Terri discusses leadership, collaboration, production, and the challenge of balancing a strong artistic vision with creating space for others to contribute.The conversation also explores the work of the Berklee Institute of Jazz and Gender Justice, the role of representation in music education, and the importance of creating environments where new voices can shape the future of the art form. Along the way, Terri reflects on her upbringing in Boston, her experiences working alongside some of the greatest musicians in jazz history, and what gives her hope when she looks at the next generation of artists.This is a thoughtful conversation about creativity, purpose, community, and the ongoing evolution of jazz from one of its most important modern voices.Key TakeawaysTrip the Night Fantastic was conceived as a groove-oriented album designed to reconnect jazz with its dance traditions.Terri believes groove often creates an emotional connection before listeners fully engage with lyrical content.Her artistic identity became stronger when she stopped separating her life experiences from her creative work.Lessons from mentors like Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock continue to influence her approach to music and leadership.Producing music requires balancing a clear artistic vision with openness to collaborators' ideas.The Berklee Institute of Jazz and Gender Justice was created to expand opportunities and perspectives within jazz education.Terri remains optimistic about the future of jazz because of the creativity, knowledge, and commitment she sees in younger musicians.Music from the EpisodeRiddim Song - Terri Lyne CarringtonIdentity Song - Terri Lyne CarringtonAutonomy Song - Terri Lyne CarringtonSolidarity Song - Terri Lyne CarringtonAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams that features in-depth conversations with musicians, composers, producers, educators, and other creative artists. Each episode explores the craft of making music, artistic growth, collaboration, creative philosophy, and the stories behind the people shaping today's musical landscape.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with country singer and songwriter Makenzie Phipps for a conversation about small-town roots, faith, songwriting, performance, and the experience of stepping onto one of music's biggest television stages.Makenzie grew up in Bluefield, Virginia, near the West Virginia line, and began singing in church when she was four years old. We talk about the support she still receives from her hometown, the transition from a small community to Nashville, and how years of performing taught her that singing the notes is only one part of connecting with an audience.We also discuss the growth she has experienced as a songwriter. Makenzie explains how writing her own material changed the way she listens to lyrics and approaches storytelling, and why she wants listeners to believe and feel the story behind every song she sings.A major part of our conversation focuses on her experience on The Voice. Makenzie shares the pressure of waiting for her blind audition, learning that only one place remained, and stepping onto the stage after nearly convincing herself she would not get the opportunity. Snoop Dogg turned his chair at the final moment, making Makenzie the last singer chosen for a team that season.Makenzie also tells the story behind “Devil Ain't in Hell,” her duet with fellow The Voice contestant Aubrey Nicole. The two wrote the song late one night while working on the show in California, later recording it with producer Grady Saxman at Saxman Studios. What began as an unplanned hotel-room co-write became a lasting musical connection and a new chapter in Makenzie's career.Key TakeawaysGrowing up in Bluefield, Virginia, taught Makenzie to appreciate community, support, and the opportunities that come with pursuing music.Music from the EpisodeDevil Ain't in Hell - Makenzie PhippsAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and other creative artists about their careers, influences, collaborations, musical craft, and the experiences that shape their work.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer, songwriter, producer, author, and visual artist Kelly Lang for a conversation about creativity, confidence, country music, and the experiences that have shaped her life and work.Kelly and I begin by discussing the many forms her creativity takes, from songwriting and recording to painting, producing, and creating videos. She talks about learning to move between those disciplines, the freedom that comes from no longer being afraid to fail, and the challenge of navigating social media without letting a single negative voice outweigh the support of an entire audience.We also discover that Kelly and I share an unusual part of our musical histories: we both appeared on Star Search. Kelly reflects on competing as a young artist, navigating unexpected changes during the show, and why she is grateful that her experience took place before social media became part of every televised performance.Kelly also shares stories from growing up around Conway Twitty, whose road manager was her father. She remembers hearing Conway test new songs for family and friends, sitting beside the stage as audiences responded to him, and realizing at an early age that she wanted to create that same kind of connection. We discuss her song “Goodbye Darlin',” written in Conway's honor, and the songwriting lesson she learned from Harlan Howard: say as much as possible with as few words as necessary.Our conversation also explores Kelly's growth as a producer, the confidence she has developed in the studio, and the emotional perspective that comes from experience. Twenty-two years after a breast cancer diagnosis, Kelly says she is less interested in chasing fame and more interested in creating music that helps someone through a difficult day. She also introduces her album Jealous Green Eyes and the single “Never Met a Man I Didn't Love.”Key TakeawaysKelly sees songwriting, painting, producing, and video creation as connected parts of a larger creative life.Her experience on Star Search taught her to adapt quickly, perform under pressure, and trust herself at a young age.Growing up around Conway Twitty gave Kelly an early understanding of songwriting, performance, and the connection between an artist and an audience.Harlan Howard taught her to write directly and use as few words as possible while preserving the song's emotional meaning.Kelly has become more confident about expressing her musical ideas and making final production decisions on projects bearing her name.Life experience has deepened the way she writes and interprets songs, giving her greater empathy and emotional perspective.More than two decades after her breast cancer diagnosis, Kelly now measures success by whether her music moves, encourages, or helps another person.Music from the EpisodeThis Too Shall Pass - Kelly LangAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and other creative artists about their careers, influences, collaborations, musical craft, and the experiences that shape their work.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer-songwriter Celeste Marie Wilson for a conversation about songwriting, identity, performance, and the long road toward becoming the artist she always wanted to be.With her debut album, Southern American Princess, on the way, Celeste shares how the project has become more than just a collection of songs. We talk about embracing Southern roots after once wanting to escape them, how poetry naturally evolved into songwriting, and why place, family, and storytelling have become central to her artistic voice.We also spend time discussing the craft behind the music. Celeste talks about developing her voice over more than a decade of dedicated work, the importance of vocal health, recording in the studio with an open mind, and why collaboration often leads to performances she never could have imagined on her own.Along the way, we dive into musical theater, songwriting influences like Dolly Parton, Kris Kristofferson, Janis Joplin, and Kristin Chenoweth, the experience of winning a Josie Music Award, and the thoughtful process of assembling an album that tells a complete story from beginning to end. It's an honest conversation about finding confidence in your own voice, both musically and personally. Key Takeaways Celeste discusses how Southern American Princess became an exploration of Southern identity, heritage, and personal growth.  She explains why she considers herself a writer first and a singer second, with songwriting rooted in poetry and storytelling.  Musical theater helped shape her approach to live performance, from stage presence to visual presentation and audience engagement.  She shares her disciplined philosophy on vocal health, including regular coaching, fitness, and the protection of her instrument.  Recording sessions are collaborative, and she intentionally leaves her ego behind so producers, engineers, and musicians can shape the songs together.  Celeste reflects on winning a Josie Music Award and how trusting her instincts ultimately led her to opportunities in Nashville.  The conversation explores why album sequencing still matters and how a carefully ordered record creates a meaningful listening experience. Music from the ShowMarie - Celeste Marie WilsonAbout the ShowThe Bandwich Tapes is a long-form interview podcast in which I sit down with musicians, songwriters, composers, producers, and artists to explore the creative process behind their music. Rather than focusing on biographies, these conversations dive into artistic philosophy, collaboration, craft, career development, and the stories that shape the people making today's music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with country singer and songwriter Trey Calloway for a conversation about authenticity, tradition, performance, and the responsibility that comes with carrying country music forward.Trey grew up singing in church, where he learned early how music can bring people together. We talk about the influence of his Pentecostal upbringing, watching his father preach, and how those experiences shaped his instincts as an entertainer and his ability to connect with an audience. We also discuss the lessons he learned playing honky-tonks and working his way through the Myrtle Beach music scene.Trey explains why he wants his music to remain unmistakably country while still sounding current. He reflects on the influence of artists including George Jones, Garth Brooks, George Strait, Loretta Lynn, and Merle Haggard, as well as the Southern rock music of Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Marshall Tucker Band, and Molly Hatchet.We also dig into Trey's approach to songwriting. His songs explore working people, family, heartbreak, faith, redemption, and the lives he observes around him. Trey talks about drawing inspiration from conversation, writing about his father's life as a construction worker, and trying to create songs that hold a mirror up to ordinary experience.Trey also shares the story behind his recording of “Slide,” a song previously recorded by Gary Allan and written by Ross Ellis, Alex Kline, and Michael Whitworth. He explains why the song felt personal enough to become his own, the importance of honoring great outside songs, and why country music still needs strong relationships between singers and professional songwriters.Key TakeawaysTrey believes country music can honor its history while still sounding fresh, modern, and personal.Growing up in a Pentecostal church taught him how to communicate with an audience and make music feel communal.His years in the Myrtle Beach music scene taught him how to lead a band, manage production, run a show, and treat music as a business.Moving to Nashville required Trey to start over, accept a smaller role, and rebuild his career in a more competitive environment.Trey approaches songwriting as a way to observe people and turn conversations, family experiences, and everyday struggles into songs.Many of his working-class songs are inspired by his father, who spent his life in construction and other forms of physical labor.Recording “Slide” reinforced Trey's belief that a singer does not have to write a song to deliver it honestly and make it feel personal.Music from the EpisodeSlide - Trey CallowayAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and other creative artists about their careers, influences, collaborations, musical craft, and the experiences that shape their work.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with brothers Jesse and Noah Bellamy to talk about their outstanding new album, The Sunshine Shop, and what it means to build music around family, trust, and years of playing together. We discuss why recording with the same band they tour with gives the album its live energy, and how they found a studio environment that captured their sound without overproducing it. Our conversation naturally turns to family harmony, and the unique connection siblings share when they sing together. Jesse and Noah reflect on growing up surrounded by music, the influence of classic country, rock, soul, and gospel, and how artists like The Louvin Brothers, The Everly Brothers, Charlie Rich, Jerry Lee Lewis, Marty Robbins, and Don Williams continue to shape their musical identity. We also talk about life in Nashville, navigating the music business as members of the Bellamy family, and how their goals have evolved over time. Rather than chasing record deals or industry expectations, they've reached a place where they can simply make the music they believe in and let the songs lead the way. Along the way, we discuss memorable collaborations on The Sunshine Shop, including appearances from Tess Frizzell and Riders in the Sky, their songwriting process as brothers, and why they're already looking ahead to the next record while continuing to let this one find its audience. Key Takeaways Jesse and Noah intentionally recorded The Sunshine Shop with their touring band to preserve the chemistry and feel they had already developed on stage.  Family harmony comes naturally, but years of performing together refine phrasing, blend, and musical instincts.  Their influences stretch well beyond traditional country, drawing from soul, gospel, classic rock, and artists like Charlie Rich, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis Presley, Marty Robbins, and Don Williams.  Nashville—and the music industry itself—has changed dramatically since they arrived, leading them to focus more on artistic independence than industry expectations.  Collaborations with Tess Frizzell and Riders in the Sky grew out of genuine relationships and mutual respect for country music traditions.  Rather than scheduling formal co-writing sessions, both brothers write independently and allow the strongest songs to emerge naturally.  They're already preparing material for their next album while continuing to refine older songs through live performance. Music from the Episode I Told a Lie — Jesse & Noah BellamyAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast where I sit down with musicians, composers, producers, and artists to explore the stories behind the music. Rather than focusing solely on career highlights, these conversations delve into creativity, collaboration, musicianship, songwriting, recording, performance, and the experiences that shape an artist's musical life.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Los Angeles-based singer, songwriter, guitarist, and music director Evan Zee for a conversation that begins with musical connection and quickly opens into something deeper. I first found Evan while researching for another interview, tracing a path from Larry Goldings to Lila Forde and then to Evan. That kind of chain reaction is one of my favorite things about this show, and in this case it led to a conversation about listening, community, faith, family, and the way music can widen a person's heart.We begin by talking about Evan's musical relationship with singer Lila Forde and how their collaboration grew out of church work, friendship, and time spent simply playing together. Evan reflects on the importance of “big ears” as a musician, the kind of listening that goes beyond technique and becomes a way of serving the song, the people around you, and the moment itself. What follows is one of my favorite kinds of conversations: one that starts with music but naturally opens into larger questions about how to live.From there, Evan speaks with real honesty about marriage, fatherhood, and how family life changed his voice, his art, and his sense of purpose. He describes becoming a parent before he felt ready, and how that experience forced him to confront fear, insecurity, and the need for growth in a way that ultimately deepened his artistic expression. It is a thoughtful and moving part of the conversation, and one that gets at something I care deeply about on this podcast: how life itself shapes the music.We also spend time talking about Evan's long history playing in church, from starting as a teenager to later studying at USC, moving to Los Angeles, and navigating his own spiritual unraveling and reconstruction. Today, as music director at a Presbyterian church in Santa Monica, he has built a creative community around intention, trust, and “the hang.” He shares how that environment led to a new record featuring close collaborators including Lila Forde, Misha, Carl McComas-Reichl, Miguel Atwood-Ferguson, Tom Frazier, and Darla, and why he wanted the session to feel playful, immediate, and alive.We close by talking about a powerful live performance in the wake of the Eaton fire, which displaced Evan and his family from their Altadena home, as well as his deep love for Joni Mitchell and the spiritual force he hears in her writing. This episode is about much more than career milestones. It is about listening as a musical value, as a human value, and as a way of moving through the world with greater presence.Key TakeawaysEvan Zee talks about why “big ears” may be one of the most important qualities a musician can have, both on and off the bandstand.He shares how his collaboration with Lila Forde grew out of church work, friendship, and hours of unpaid playing simply for the sake of getting better together.Evan reflects candidly on how marriage and fatherhood reshaped his artistry, deepened his voice, and changed the way he experiences music.He discusses his journey through faith, deconstruction, and a more expansive understanding of music as a spiritual practice.As a music director in Santa Monica, Evan has created a scene built around trust, intention, generosity, and what musicians call “the hang.”He gives insight into a new record built with a close-knit cast of players including Lila Forde, Carl McComas-Reichl, Miguel Atwood-Ferguson, Tom Frazier, Misha, and Darla.We also talk about Joni Mitchell, Pat Metheny, live performance after loss, and the role music can play in grief, healing, and community.Music from the EpisodeWarm and Right - Evan Zee (Live in LA)Never Leave a Moment - Evan ZeeLong Lost Lover - Evan Zee (Live in LA)Love - Evan Zee (Live in LA)About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast where I sit down with musicians, songwriters, producers, and creative people for thoughtful conversations about craft, career, collaboration, and the experiences that shape a life in music. It is a show about process, humanity, and the stories behind the work.Connect with the Showcontact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Deer Fellow, the Austin-based duo of Alyssa and Matt, for a conversation about harmony, songwriting, production, and the creative life of a working independent band.Their new full-length album, Hues, is built around the idea of emotional color. We talk about how that concept developed, how songs from different points in their writing lives found a home together, and how video games, travel, nature, and everyday life all find their way into their creative process.Alyssa and Matt also talk about the practical and musical challenges of being a duo. Their sound is remarkably full, both live and on record, and we dig into how they use looping, synth, violin, guitar, vocals, and production choices to create something expansive without making it feel crowded.This conversation also gets into the reality of being full-time musicians in Austin: the gigs that pay the bills, the shows that feed the soul, the pressure of social media, and the persistence it takes to keep growing while staying connected to the music itself.Key Takeaways  • Deer Fellow began after Alyssa and Matt met at an open mic and discovered a natural vocal chemistry.  • Their album Hues is centered around emotional color and includes songs written across many different seasons of their lives.  • The song “Easier” was their first full song written together from start to finish.  • The album's “Between Shades” interludes are built from pieces of existing songs, highlighting vocals, violin, and guitar.  • Alyssa and Matt recorded the album at home, then sent the tracks out for mixing and mastering.  • The duo format has pushed them to become stronger arrangers, performers, and producers.  • Austin has challenged them professionally while also giving them community, grit, and access to support systems for working musicians.Music from the Episode  Fool For You - Deer FellowInvisible - Deer FellowBetween Shades (Part One) - Deer FellowBeautiful Grey - Deer FellowPep in My Step - Deer FellowHues - Deer FellowAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, composers, producers, and artists about craft, collaboration, creative process, musical identity, and the way music actually gets made.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with John Cowan, a musician whose voice has been part of my own musical memory since I first heard New Grass Revival as a kid at the Georgia Mountain Fair in Hiawassee, Georgia.John and I talk about his early influences, from Paul McCartney and Duck Dunn to Leon Russell, and how he developed as both a singer and a bass player. We also dig into the specific challenge of singing lead while holding down the low end, especially when the bass part and vocal line are moving in different rhythmic directions.The conversation moves through John's years with New Grass Revival, his deep admiration for Sam Bush's rhythm, and the way bluegrass taught him the power of simplicity. John also reflects on finding his own voice after years of being able to imitate other singers, and how joining New Grass Revival forced him to become himself as a vocalist.We also talk about his work with The Doobie Brothers, his respect for Tiran Porter's bass lines, singing harmony, working with Andrea Zonn, Luke Bulla, and The HercuLeons, and the gratitude that comes from a life spent standing beside remarkable musicians.Key Takeaways  • John reflects on the impact of New Grass Revival and how joining the band helped him discover his own voice.  • He talks about the challenge of singing lead while playing bass, especially when the bass line is syncopated.  • Paul McCartney, Duck Dunn, Leon Russell, Little Feat, Stevie Wonder, and Gregg Allman all shaped John's early musical world.  • Playing bluegrass taught John the beauty and power of simplicity.  • John describes Sam Bush as one of the greatest rhythmic forces in bluegrass music.  • His role with The Doobie Brothers gives him the chance to honor Tiran Porter's melodic and highly musical bass parts.  • John speaks openly about recovery, community, discipline, and the work of becoming a better person over time.Music from the Episode  Georgia Rhythm - John CowanDevil Woman - John CowanHold to a Dream - New Grass RevivalYou Plant Your Fields - New Grass RevivalTake Me to the Alley - The HerculeonsI'm Just Not Ready - John Cowan  About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, composers, producers, and artists about craft, collaboration, creative process, musical identity, and the way music actually gets made.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer, songwriter, producer, studio builder, and longtime Austin music figure Hank Alrich for a conversation about songs, sound, family, and the long arc of a creative life.Hank talks about his early years as a working folk singer, his time building a recording studio inside Armadillo World Headquarters, and eventually taking the helm of that legendary Austin venue in the late 1970s. Along the way, he reflects on the kind of musical education that comes from being surrounded by country, blues, folk, jazz, funk, and experimental music all in the same room.We spend a good bit of time with Hank's album Broken River, especially the way it balances polish and looseness. Hank shares how he approaches recording with a live band, why he values trusted collaborators, and how his daughter Shaidri has become an essential musical voice in his work.This is a conversation about writing only when the song demands it, letting musicians play together in real time, and learning to respect the crack in the performance where the light gets in.Key Takeaways • Hank's first professional gig was as a house folk singer, playing six sets a night, seven nights a week. • His work at Armadillo World Headquarters gave him a broad musical education across folk, country, blues, jazz, funk, and beyond. • Broken River brings together songs from different periods of Hank's writing life. • Hank values live recording because of the human, almost metaphysical connection between musicians in the room. • His daughter Shaidri plays an important role as a harmony singer, collaborator, and trusted set of ears. • Hank sees production as a team effort, with every musician and engineer contributing to the final shape of the song. • The conversation explores the difference between perfection and completion in making records.Music from the EpisodeI Hate to See That Evening Sun Go Down - Hank AlrichThe Perfect Hat - Hank AlrichShe Had Whiskey For Dinner - Hank AlrichBroken River - Hank AlrichAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams. Each episode features thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, composers, producers, and artists about craft, collaboration, creative process, musical identity, and the way music actually gets made.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with pianist, composer, producer, and sound designer Dave Mackay for a thoughtful conversation about musical identity, touring life, and the creative possibilities that live between composition, improvisation, and sound.Dave reflects on the strange rhythm of life on the road, especially after years of near-constant touring. We talk about the physical and emotional shift from playing for massive audiences to suddenly being home, and how that quiet space can bring a different kind of reflection. He speaks honestly about performance, nerves, and why playing the piano can feel natural while speaking into a microphone can still feel unnerving.We also trace his musical path, from early piano lessons in England to his studies in London and at Berklee College of Music in Boston. Dave shares how a perceptive childhood teacher encouraged him not just to learn music, but to develop his own voice. That thread carries through the entire conversation, from his improvisational instincts as a child to the way he builds sounds, writes records, and approaches collaboration now.A major part of our conversation centers on Dave's remarkable body of original work, including his Three trilogy:  L.A., Nashville, and Utopia, and his album The Looking Chamber. We talk about the influence of the Esbjörn Svensson Trio, the creative chemistry of working in a trio format, and how sound design and composition constantly inform one another in his music. Dave also shares why he prefers creating his own keyboard patches rather than relying on presets, and how his relationship with Nord keyboards grew out of that sonic curiosity.We close by talking about his work touring with Brandi Carlile, how that opportunity came together through Lucius, and why he remains passionate about live music that breathes naturally rather than being locked to click tracks and playback. It's a conversation about artistry, listening, taste, and learning how to trust your own instincts, both on stage and in the studio.Key TakeawaysDave talks candidly about the physical and emotional reality of life on tour, and why the transition back home can feel just as intense as the touring itself.He shares how improvisation has been part of his musical voice from the very beginning, even as a young piano student.Dave reflects on the importance of great teachers and how one early mentor helped him develop his own sound rather than imposing someone else's.We discuss the origin of his Three trilogy — L.A., Nashville, and Utopia — and how those records grew out of improvisation, friendship, and experimentation.Dave offers a fascinating look at sound design, explaining how creating his own patches and textures is integral to his compositional identity.He talks about touring with Brandi Carlile and why live music feels most alive to him when musicians listen and respond in real time.The conversation becomes a broader meditation on trust: trusting your ears, your collaborators, and the artistic choices that feel most like you.Music from the EpisodeAll the Same - Dave MackayHere in the Vastness - Dave MackayImpulse - Dave MackayProphecies - Dave MackayTrust Goddess - Dave MackayAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, composers, songwriters, and creative artists I admire for honest conversations about craft, collaboration, career, and the deeper musical ideas that shape their work. It's a show about process, perspective, and the stories behind a life in music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with drummer, collaborator, and educator Eric Doob for a wide-ranging conversation about sound, taste, collaboration, and what it really means to make music in today's world. I first came across Eric's playing through his work on Live From Here with Chris Thile, and I've been a fan ever since. From the very beginning of our conversation, it's clear that Eric approaches music with a deep sense of curiosity and care, whether he's performing, recording, producing, or teaching.We spend time talking about his work with guitarist Matthew Stevens, including his role as both a drummer and a collaborator in shaping the sound of those records. Eric offers great insight into the importance of sonic identity, how the sound of the drums, the tuning, the cymbals, and even the engineer's perspective can shape the emotional core of a track. It's a thoughtful look at how sound itself becomes part of the composition.Our conversation also dives into collaboration and the idea of “taste” as a guiding force. Eric shares how the strongest musical relationships often come from a shared aesthetic sensibility rather than just technical ability. We talk about bands, chemistry, and the unspoken communication that happens when musicians are truly aligned.We also explore his path from growing up outside Boston to studying at Berklee College of Music and eventually building a life in New York. Along the way, Eric reflects on early musical experiences, the importance of access to live music, and how those formative years shaped his voice as a musician.Toward the end of the conversation, we get into teaching, creativity, and the challenges of making music in an age of constant distraction. Eric shares some really thoughtful perspectives on how access to everything can be both a gift and a challenge, and why focused listening and presence might be more important than ever.It's a conversation about listening, really listening, to music, to collaborators, and to the moment you're in.Key TakeawaysEric Doob discusses how sound—especially drum sound—can define the emotional identity of a track.He shares insights into his collaboration with Matthew Stevens and the importance of long-term musical relationships.We explore the idea that shared “taste” can be more important than technical ability in building great musical chemistry.Eric reflects on his early musical experiences growing up near Boston and the importance of access to live music.He talks about his evolving role in recording, producing, and shaping music beyond just playing drums.We discuss teaching and how working with students has deepened his own understanding of music.Eric offers a thoughtful perspective on modern music consumption, distraction, and the importance of focused listening.Music from the EpisodeTake Heart - Matthew StevensThree Card Molly - from Live From Here with Chris ThileEl Duelo - Diego Urcola QuartetTangled in the Endless Chain - Ryan Keberle & CatharsisAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, composers, songwriters, and creative artists I admire for honest conversations about craft, collaboration, career, and the deeper musical ideas that shape their work. It's a show about process, perspective, and the stories behind a life in music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with bassist Tim Lefebvre for a conversation about groove, adaptability, tone, and what it really means to serve the music. Tim has built one of the most distinctive and wide-ranging careers in modern bass playing, with credits spanning jazz, rock, pop, experimental music, and singer-songwriter projects. From David Bowie's Blackstar to Tedeschi Trucks Band, Wayne Krantz, and countless sessions in between, Tim has become one of those rare players whose sound is unmistakable yet fits almost anywhere.We begin by talking about his 2026 so far, which includes recording work, short touring runs, a date with Nate Smith and Jason Lindner, upcoming shows in Italy with Tiziano Ferro, and a tour with Melissa Etheridge. From there, we get into one of the central tensions of a working musician's life: how to bring your own identity to a project while still honoring the artist, the songs, and the original recordings. Tim has strong instincts here, and he speaks with great clarity about choosing simplicity, resisting overplaying, and understanding what the music actually needs.One of my favorite parts of this conversation is hearing Tim talk about some of the landmark experiences in his career. We discuss the Bryan Adams tour, the joy of playing huge songs in front of large crowds, and then spend time on David Bowie's Blackstar, including how Tim approached the sessions, how much of the rhythmic language was already implied in Bowie's demos, and how some of the bass textures on songs like “Lazarus” emerged naturally in the room. Tim also reflects on the creative freedom and trust inside Tedeschi Trucks Band, and what it felt like to be part of a band that could take real improvisational chances in front of thousands of people.Along the way, we talk gear, compression, pedals, picks, strings, remote recording, favorite drummers, the differences between New York and Los Angeles, sobriety, and some of the bass players who shaped his ear early on, including James Jamerson, Paul McCartney, Darryl Jones, Marcus Miller, Victor Bailey, Jaco Pastorius, and Tony Levin. This is a conversation about craft, but also about judgment, restraint, and learning to make the right choice in the moment.Key TakeawaysTim Lefebvre talks about balancing personal identity with the responsibility of serving the artist, the arrangement, and the song.He shares stories from the making of David Bowie's Blackstar, including how parts of “Lazarus” developed in the studio.Tim reflects on the musical and emotional intensity of playing with Tedeschi Trucks Band and the freedom that the group allowed onstage.He discusses his early path from saxophone to bass, his father's influence, and learning on real gigs at a young age.The conversation explores how bass playing varies with the drummer and what Tim listens for when locking in with someone new.Tim also gets into gear, including pick playing, flats versus rounds, bass compression, distortion, reverb, and how pedals can shape creative ideas.We talk openly about sobriety, professional growth, and how life experience changes the way a musician shows up on and off the bandstand.Music from the EpisodeAnyhow - Tedeschi Trucks BandShake Loose - Donny McCaslinIt's No Fun Not to Like Pop - Krantz/Carlock/LefebvreHanging On - KnowerBlackstar - David BowieAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast where I sit down with musicians, songwriters, producers, and creative people for thoughtful conversations about craft, collaboration, career, and the experiences that shape a life in music. It is a show about process, perspective, and the human side of making art.Connect with the Showcontact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with the extraordinary Wendy Moten for a conversation about longevity, versatility, professionalism, and the many different ways a singer can build a meaningful life in music. Wendy has one of those careers that musicians know and revere: a major-label artist in the 1990s, a world-class touring vocalist, a sought-after session singer, a member of the Grammy-winning Time Jumpers, a regular performer on the Grand Ole Opry, and, more recently, a powerful presence for a new generation of listeners through The Voice. What struck me most in this conversation is how clearly she understands her craft, her purpose, and the discipline required to sustain both.We begin by talking about the busy season she is in now, balancing solo work, sessions, weekly performances with the Time Jumpers, and another major tour with Vince Gill. Wendy shares the story of how Vince first called her out of the blue after her run with Martina McBride had ended, and how that invitation opened an entirely new chapter in her career. From there, we get into what she calls her “version of country music,” and how she found it not by imitating the genre, but by studying its history, listening closely, and finding an authentic way to bring herself into the tradition.One of my favorite parts of the conversation centers on harmony singing and what it really means to support another artist. Wendy talks beautifully about what she learned during 15 years as Julio Iglesias's duet partner, including how to listen, how to match breath and phrasing, how to stay out of the way, and how to make someone else sound even better. She says she was “getting paid for self-control,” which is one of the best descriptions of professional background singing I have ever heard. That whole section of the conversation is full of insight for anyone who cares about what it means to serve the music at a very high level.We also talk about church, family, and the support system that made her life in music possible. Wendy reflects on growing up in Memphis, singing in church, and learning early how to stand in front of people, even when she was shy and uncomfortable. She shares how much her parents sacrificed to create opportunities for her and her siblings, and how much those sacrifices still mean to her now. We also spend time talking about her Grand Ole Opry appearances, including the emotion of making her Opry debut without her parents there to see it, and the significance of standing on that stage as a Black woman in a space where history has not always made room for everyone.Along the way, we get into her years at EMI, the pressure to be shaped into whatever version of success the label wanted at the time, and the freedom she eventually found by building a career outside the usual boxes. Wendy talks openly about not needing fame in the conventional sense, about loving the role of underdog, and about continuing to surprise people. This is a conversation about singing, certainly, but also about resilience, humility, excellence, and how to remain generous and grounded across four decades in music.Key TakeawaysWendy Moten reflects on building a career across pop, country, jazz, Americana, sessions, television, and touring without being confined to one lane.She shares how 15 years with Julio Iglesias taught her phrasing, breath, dynamics, communication, and the art of listening more deeply.Wendy talks about singing with Vince Gill and the Time Jumpers, and how she developed her own authentic relationship to country music.She offers a sharp and memorable perspective on background vocals: great harmony singing requires self-control, consistency, and leaving your ego at home.The conversation explores how the church shaped her confidence, artistry, and ability to recover from mistakes in front of an audience.Wendy also reflects on The Voice, why she chose to do it, and how it introduced her to a new audience without diminishing everything that came before it.We discuss the Grand Ole Opry, the emotional weight of her debut, and the significance of taking up space in a tradition that has not always been inclusive.Music from the EpisodeOde to Billy Joe - Wendy MotenDon't Touch Me - Wendy MotenDriving Nails in My Coffin - Wendy MotenFaithless Love - Wendy Moten (with Vince Gill)About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast where I sit down with musicians, singers, songwriters, producers, and creative people for thoughtful conversations about craft, career, collaboration, and the life experiences that shape the music. It is a show about artistry, process, and the human side of a life in music.Connect with the Showcontact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with legendary percussionist Luis Conte for a conversation that goes far beyond music, into life, freedom, faith, and the deep roots of rhythm.  Luis has played with just about everyone, from James Taylor to Pat Metheny, and has been a defining voice in modern percussion for decades. But what struck me most in this conversation is not just what he's played, it's how he thinks about music and where it comes from.We begin with where he is today, working out of his home studio and navigating the modern recording world. Luis strikes a balance between convenience and connection, the trade-off between recording alone and the magic that happens when musicians are in the same room together.  From there, we get into one of my favorite parts of the conversation: the relationship between drummer and percussionist. Luis has such a simple and powerful philosophy: don't overthink it. Listen. Let the music tell you what to play. It's a reminder that great musicianship is often about awareness, not complexity.Luis then shares his incredible personal story, growing up in Cuba, being immersed in music from an early age, and eventually leaving the country as a teenager. What follows is a story of sacrifice, resilience, and ultimately freedom. His reflections on that experience are deeply moving and provide valuable context for the way he approaches music and life.We also talk about his journey into the Los Angeles music scene, the importance of relationships, and what it really takes to build a career: not just playing well, but being someone people want to be around. Along the way, he shares stories about working with some of the greats, including the late Carlos Vega, whose impact on musicians runs deep.  Toward the end, we get into his work with Pat Metheny and the idea of trusting great musicians to bring their own voice to the music. It's a theme that runs throughout the entire conversation. Music isn't something you force; it's something you respond to.This is a conversation about feel, about listening, and about the life experiences that shape the way we play.Key TakeawaysLuis Conte explains why listening, not thinking, is the foundation of great percussion playing.He shares the nuanced role of a percussionist alongside a drummer and how to complement the music.Luis reflects on his journey leaving Cuba and the profound meaning of freedom in his life and career.We discuss how early musical exposure shaped his instincts long before formal training.Luis emphasizes that relationships, attitude, and reliability are just as important as musicianship.He shares stories about Carlos Vega and what made him such a special musician.Luis talks about working with Pat Metheny and the importance of trusting artists to bring their own voice.Music from the EpisodeSantiaguero - Ropa Vieja ft. Luis Conte & San MiguelLa Aguita - Ropa Vieja ft. Luis Conte & San MiguelAmerica Undefined - Pat MethenyAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, composers, songwriters, and creative artists I admire for honest conversations about craft, collaboration, career, and the deeper musical ideas that shape their work. It's a show about process, perspective, and the stories behind a life in music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with conductor, composer, and longtime contemporary music advocate Brad Lubman for a wide-ranging conversation about interpretation, rehearsal, composition, and the deeper responsibilities of making music with other people.Brad first came onto my radar through his work conducting Steve Reich's music, but this conversation quickly opened into something much larger. He talks about the way audiences often associate him with Reich's music, while reminding us that he had already built a substantial life in new music long before that connection began. From there, we get into a fascinating discussion about what conductors actually do, and why he resists the idea that great conducting is about imposing personality on a score. For Brad, the work begins with the composer's intentions and the discipline of bringing those intentions to life as clearly and honestly as possible.We also spend time on Brad's path as both a percussionist and a conductor, including how his early love of drums and rock music, and later of orchestral music, shaped the musician he became. He reflects on what percussion taught him about immediacy, time, and gesture, and how those lessons still inform the way he teaches conductors today. His thoughts on rehearsal are especially compelling: the idea that a conductor's role is not to dominate but to create conditions in which musicians can play with confidence, clarity, and artistry.A particularly rewarding part of this conversation centers on Brad's own music, especially his powerful piece Tangents for two pianos and two percussionists. He shares the origin of that work, how it emerged during a moment when he was considering stepping away from composition, and why it marked the beginning of a new phase in his musical language. We also talk about his long association with Steve Reich, Ensemble Signal, and the kinds of life-changing moments that can come from simply doing your work well and being ready when the right people are listening.By the end of the conversation, what comes through most clearly is Brad's seriousness of purpose and his belief in music as a communal act. Whether he is conducting, composing, teaching at the Eastman School of Music, or building programs with Ensemble Signal and major orchestras around the world, he approaches music with precision, humility, and an unwavering sense of service to the score and the people making it.Key TakeawaysBrad Lubman offers a thoughtful distinction between “interpretation” and serving the composer's intentions, arguing that great conducting begins with fidelity to the score rather than ego.He explains why so much of what audiences hear as a conductor's influence is actually shaped in rehearsal, not just in performance.Brad reflects on how his background as a drummer and percussionist sharpened his sense of time, touch, and physical gesture.We talk in depth about his piece Tangents and why that work marked a turning point in his life as a composer.Brad shares how key moments in his career — including his connection to Steve Reich and the New York premiere of City Life — came through preparation, reputation, and musical trust.He discusses the communal nature of orchestral music-making and his belief that an ensemble can model cooperation at the highest level.The conversation concludes with a look at his current work as a teacher, conductor, composer, and advocate for contemporary music worldwide.Music from the EpisodeMusic for 18 Musicians (Pulse) - Steve Reich (Ensemble Signal - Brad Lubman, Conductor)Radio Rewrite (I. Fast) - Steve Reich (Ensemble Signal - Brad Lubman, Conductor)Double Sextet (I. Fast) - Steve Reich (Ensemble Signal - Brad Lubman, Conductor)Tangents - Brad Lubman (Icaras Quartet)About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, composers, songwriters, conductors, and creative artists I admire for honest conversations about craft, collaboration, career, and the deeper ideas that shape their work. It's a show about process, perspective, and the stories behind a life in music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Mark Kibble of Take 6, a group whose music has been part of my life since the very beginning of my musical journey.   We start with a full-circle moment, me seeing Take 6 live as a teenager, and now getting to sit down and talk with Mark about his career, his process, and the music that continues to inspire him.We begin with his work on Pat Metheny's latest project, in which Mark contributed vocal arrangements that add an entirely new dimension to Pat's sound. Mark walks through the process, receiving tracks, interpreting harmonic language, and building a choir sound that fits seamlessly into a complex musical landscape.   From there, we zoom out and talk about what it means to be a collaborator, how Mark approaches working with other artists, what he listens for, and how he balances his own voice with the music's needs. His perspective is simple but profound: it's not about him. It's about making the music better.We spend time reflecting on the longevity of Take 6, how a group can stay together for decades, navigate challenges, and still maintain both musical excellence and deep personal relationships. Mark shares that their foundation goes far beyond music; it's rooted in purpose, faith, and a genuine commitment to each other as family.  We also talk about influence, how artists like Jacob Collier are carrying the torch forward, and how meaningful it is to see a new generation connect with the music that Take 6 has been making for decades.There are some great moments of reflection, too, working with legends like Joe Sample, collaborating with Lalah Hathaway, and the challenge (and joy) of continuing to grow as a vocalist over time.  We also get into vocal health, longevity, and what it takes to sustain a career at the highest level—physically, mentally, and creatively.This is a conversation about harmony in every sense of the word: musical, personal, and spiritual.Key TakeawaysMark Kibble breaks down how he approached arranging vocals for Pat Metheny's latest project.He shares why collaboration is about serving the artist—not showcasing yourself.The longevity of Take 6 is rooted in purpose, faith, and treating each other like family.Mark reflects on the group's influence on artists like Jacob Collier.Great arranging is about fitting into the music—not competing with it.Vocal longevity requires discipline, rest, and learning how to pace yourself.Coaching others reinforced the importance of finding your own authentic voice.Music from the EpisodeBiggest Part of Me - Take 6Don't Look Down - Pat MethenyU-Turn - Joe Sample with Take 6Someday We'll All Be Free - Take 6 with Lalah HathawayCome Unto Me - Take 6About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, composers, and creative artists for honest conversations about the craft, the process, and the stories behind the music. It's about digging deeper—into how great music gets made and the people who make it.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down in person with drummer Joe Dyson, the first in-person conversation I've recorded for the show, and it couldn't have been with a better musician or person.  Joe is currently on the road with Pat Metheny, and we talk about the experience of being inside that music night after night, how the band continues to grow, how chemistry develops on the road, and what it truly means to live inside the music.We begin at the very beginning, Joe's earliest connection to the drums, growing up in church, watching his family play, and learning through imitation long before formal instruction. That foundation, playing with purpose, listening deeply, and serving something larger than yourself, continues to shape everything he does today.  From there, we dive into the cultural impact of growing up in New Orleans and the moment Joe realized just how unique that musical environment is. His reflections on culture, identity, and the preservation of tradition are powerful and deeply personal.One of the most meaningful parts of this conversation centers around mentorship, specifically his relationships with Alvin Batiste and Donald Harrison. Joe shares incredible stories about how these mentors shaped him, not just musically, but philosophically, and how their lessons continue to reveal themselves years later.  We also spend time talking about listening, not just as a musical skill, but as a life skill. Joe makes a compelling case that listening is at the center of everything: collaboration, groove, communication, and even being a better human being.We get into his artistic philosophy, how he balances honoring the lineage of great drummers like Elvin Jones, Roy Haynes, and Philly Joe Jones while still pushing forward creatively. His perspective on imitation, emulation, and innovation is something every musician can learn from.Joe also shares the incredible (and almost missed!) story of how he connected with Pat Metheny, starting with an email he nearly ignored, and what it's like working with an artist of that level in both live and studio settings.We wrap up by talking about his debut album, Look Within, and how stepping into the role of a bandleader changed his perspective, not just musically, but also in how he approaches collaboration and supports other artists.This is a conversation about growth, humility, and the lifelong process of becoming a musician.Key TakeawaysJoe Dyson explains why listening is the most important skill a musician can develop—on and off the stage.He shares how growing up in church shaped his sense of purpose and connection to music.Joe reflects on the unique cultural identity of New Orleans and its lasting influence on his playing.He discusses the profound impact of mentorship from Alvin Batiste and Donald Harrison.Joe breaks down the process of musical growth: imitation → emulation → innovation.He tells the story of nearly ignoring the email that led to working with Pat Metheny.Leading his own band gave him a deeper respect for collaboration and the responsibilities of being a bandleader.Music from the EpisodePious Walk - Joe DysonForward - Joe DysonFleeting Faith - Joe DysonIn On It - Pat Metheny Side Eye IIINaysayers - Joe DysonAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, composers, songwriters, and creative artists I admire for honest conversations about craft, collaboration, and the deeper musical ideas that shape their work. It's a space to explore process, perspective, and the human side of a life in music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with percussionist and educator Shawn Galvin for a wide-ranging conversation about orchestral life, teaching, and the deeper thinking behind great musicianship. I first learned about Shawn through my son Skyler, who studied with him at LSU, so this conversation felt especially meaningful for me.We begin by talking about Shawn's approach to teaching and how he balances technique with musicality. His philosophy is simple but powerful: musical intent should always lead the way. Instead of practicing technique in isolation, Shawn encourages students to pursue musical ideas first—and then let the technical work follow to serve those ideas.From there, we dig into orchestral percussion itself, how the role of percussionists continues to evolve, and how skills like drum set playing have increasingly become part of the orchestral vocabulary. Shawn shares fascinating insights into audition repertoire, why certain excerpts appear on audition lists, and how percussionists today must be prepared for a wider range of musical demands than ever before.We also spend time on Shawn's own musical lineage. Growing up in western Pennsylvania with a father who was both his band director and percussion teacher gave him an early immersion in music education. Later, studying with legendary Pittsburgh Symphony timpanist Stanley Leonard became a foundational experience that shaped the way he thinks about sound, tone production, and the role of percussion in the orchestra.One of my favorite parts of this conversation is hearing Shawn talk about timpani as a gateway into orchestral thinking. Because timpani sits inside the harmonic and structural core of so much orchestral repertoire, studying it opens a deeper understanding of how orchestras actually function musically. That perspective carries into everything from bass drum sound production to phrasing inside the orchestra.We also explore the many dimensions of Shawn's career—from his years performing with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra to his work with the North Carolina Symphony, his teaching at LSU, and his leadership role with the Spoleto Festival Orchestra, where he helps audition and mentor the next generation of orchestral musicians.This is a thoughtful conversation about musicianship, mentorship, and the long arc of a life spent in music.Key TakeawaysMusicality should lead technique — technical work becomes more meaningful when it serves a clear musical idea.Orchestral percussion continues to evolve — drum set and broader stylistic fluency are now part of many orchestral expectations.Studying timpani deepens understanding of the orchestra — it connects percussionists directly to the harmonic and structural core of the repertoire.Great teachers shape more than musicians — the process of learning music develops discipline, listening, and collaboration skills that transfer far beyond music.Mentorship matters — Shawn's studies with Stanley Leonard helped shape his musical thinking and approach to teaching.Professional musicianship requires adaptability — orchestral players must be ready for a wide range of tempos, conductors, and interpretations.Music careers can take many forms — performing, teaching, and arts leadership can all intersect in meaningful ways.Music from the EpisodeQueen - Molly Joyce (Shawn Galvin, percussion)Five Gestures - Brett William Dietz (Shawn Galvin, snare drum & LSU Hamiruge Percussion Ensemble - Dr. Brett Dietz, conductor)Letter from Home - Pat Metheny Group (Shawn Galvin, vibraphone)About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Michael Bacon for a conversation that moves naturally through songwriting, teaching, film scoring, orchestration, and the long arc of a creative life.Michael reflects on the musical education that shaped him, both formal and informal. He talks about returning to Lehman as an adult to fill in gaps in theory, harmony, counterpoint, and music history, and about the profound influence of composer John Corigliano. We also dig into Michael's early life in Philadelphia, where public school music programs, orchestral experiences, folk music, and an extraordinary listening environment at home all helped form his wide musical palette.One of my favorite parts of this conversation is hearing Michael talk about range: why he is drawn to music that can be beautiful, unsettling, lyrical, loud, delicate, and emotionally direct all at once. That idea connects everything he does, from songwriting with The Bacon Brothers to his work as a film composer and orchestrator. He has no interest in staying in one narrow lane, and that comes through clearly in the way he describes both his influences and his process.We also spend time on collaboration: co-writing in Nashville, writing with his brother Kevin Bacon, adding Mayer to the band, and the trust required to make any long-running musical partnership work. By the end of the conversation, what stands out most is Michael's clarity about what sustains a creative life: deep listening, family support, musical curiosity, and the willingness to keep showing up for the work.Key TakeawaysMichael Bacon balances multiple musical identities: songwriter, film composer, educator, orchestrator, and performer.He studied at Lehman College, and his time with John Corigliano helped strengthen the technical foundation behind his creative instincts.Growing up in Philadelphia, surrounded by music at home and in public school programs, had a lasting impact on his musical language.His values range in music—beauty, tension, melody, fear, dynamics, and emotional contrast all matter to him as a composer.His songwriting process differs depending on the setting, from structured Nashville co-writes to more personal, experience-driven songs.Collaboration in The Bacon Brothers works because Michael and Kevin bring different strengths, influences, and instincts to the same songs.Writing for orchestra remains one of Michael's deepest creative joys, especially when he can bring that world into live performance.Music from the EpisodePut Your Hand Up - The Bacon BrothersAirport Bar - The Bacon BrothersPeople in the World - The Bacon BrothersAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by me, Brad Williams, featuring thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, composers, and artists about craft, creativity, collaboration, and the stories behind the music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

Episode SummaryOn this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Liam Duncan, the Winnipeg singer-songwriter, producer, and bandleader better known as Boy Golden. Liam has been carving out a distinct lane in modern roots music through records like Church of Better Daze, For Jimmy, For Eden, and now Best of Our Possible Lives, his 2026 album released by Six Shooter Records. Along the way, he has earned major recognition in Canada, including a Juno nomination for For Eden and a Canadian Folk Music Award, while continuing to grow as both an artist and a producer.  We begin with the new album itself, which feels relaxed on first listen but reveals a deeper level of craft the more time you spend with it. Liam talks about the balance between intentional songwriting and the freedom of a loose studio environment, and he explains how careful pre-production gave the band room to breathe once the red light was on. That combination of structure and openness runs through the whole conversation.We spend a good stretch of time on the making of Best of Our Possible Lives, including Liam's collaboration with co-producer Robbie Lackritz and a remarkable studio cast that includes Pino Palladino, Abe Rounds, Austin Parachoniak, FONTINE, Gabe Noel, and Joseph Shabason. Liam shares what it was like to sing and play inside a rhythm section that strong, how live the sessions really were, and why letting go of technical responsibilities helped him become a better performer in the room. The result is a record that feels warm, human, and deeply played.  From there, the conversation opens out into larger questions about communication, collaboration, songwriting, and identity. Liam talks about learning to speak differently to different musicians, the value of being both a bandleader and a sideman, and why he does not feel especially tied to recreating his records onstage. We also get into the meaning behind the name Boy Golden, the freedom of writing through an alter ego, and the way fiction, metaphor, and autobiography all live together inside a song.What I love about this conversation is that Liam is thoughtful without sounding guarded. He is clearly serious about songs, sound, and arrangement, but he also leaves room for instinct, humor, and surprise. This episode is about more than one record. It is about what happens when an artist learns to prepare deeply, trust the people around him, and leave enough space for the music to become what it wants to become.Key TakeawaysLiam built Best of Our Possible Lives through a mix of deliberate songcraft and a relaxed, collaborative studio process.Working with players like Pino Palladino and Abe Rounds gave the music a rhythmic center that made everything else feel easier to sing and play over.Sharing production duties with Robbie Lackritz allowed Liam to step away from technical tasks and focus more fully on performance.  He adjusts how he communicates musical ideas depending on the player, whether that means theory, feel-based language, or simply playing something through a few more times.The Boy Golden name gave Liam more artistic freedom than writing under his own name, especially in how he blends truth, fiction, and storytelling.He values live performance as an art form in its own right and is not especially interested in reproducing studio recordings exactly onstage.He is already thinking ahead creatively, including new writing methods and experiments with combining multiple song ideas into larger suites.Music from the EpisodeBoy Golden - You Got itBoy Golden - SufferBoy Golden - The Matter at HandBoy Golden - Best of Our Possible LivesBoy Golden - ChickadeeAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast where I sit down with musicians, songwriters, producers, and creative thinkers for thoughtful conversations about craft, collaboration, career, and the deeper philosophy of making music. It is a space for stories, process, and the lived experience behind the work.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with percussionist, composer, and educator Michael Burritt for a wide-ranging conversation about teaching, performing, composing, and the responsibility that comes with shaping generations of musicians. Michael reflects on his years at Eastman, the path that brought him there, and the deep sense of purpose he feels in helping students grow not just as players, but as people.We spend a lot of time talking about mentorship and what it means to build a studio culture rooted in excellence, curiosity, humility, and trust. Michael shares thoughtful reflections on former students like Brett Dietz, Jake Nissly, and Peter Martin, and what makes it so meaningful to watch students go on to become artists, educators, and leaders in their own right. What comes through clearly is that for him, teaching has never been about producing one type of player. It has always been about helping each student become more fully themselves.We also dig into the evolution of percussion pedagogy and marimba playing over the last few decades. Michael talks about the opportunities and distractions that come with instant access to recordings, the increasing technical level of incoming students, and the importance of still building a strong pedagogical foundation. He speaks candidly about sound, time, phrasing, touch, and the long arc of helping a student develop an ear that demands more of their own playing.Along the way, we get into composition, repertoire, and how marimba literature has expanded over the course of his career. Michael shares how he approaches writing for the instrument, what happens when non-percussionist composers write for marimba, and why the best music still puts musical meaning ahead of technical display. By the end of the conversation, what lingers most is Michael's humility. For someone who has had such an enormous impact on percussion, he keeps coming back to gratitude, relationships, and the privilege of being part of an art form that is still growing.Key TakeawaysMichael sees teaching as both a musical and human responsibility, with equal emphasis on artistry, character, confidence, and humility.He takes great pride in building a studio culture where students are challenged, supported, and encouraged to develop their own distinct musical identities.Today's percussion students often arrive with higher technical ability and more exposure to recordings, but not always with the same step-by-step pedagogical grounding.For Michael, great playing starts with the ear: students have to hear the sound they want deeply enough that their hands learn how to produce it.He believes percussion pedagogy still needs more repertoire that bridges the gap between intermediate literature and major large-scale works.As a composer, he moves between the instrument and the keyboard, always trying to balance intuitive writing with musical structure and instrumental understanding.When he reflects on legacy, he returns less to accolades and more to relationships, student growth, and the chance to remain part of his students' lives long after they leave school.Music from the EpisodeMichael Burritt - Sweet Dreams and Time MachinesMichael Burritt - Burritt VariationsMichael Burritt - Into the AirMichael Burritt - White PinesAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast where I sit down with musicians, composers, educators, and creative artists for thoughtful conversations about craft, collaboration, career, and the deeper stories behind a life in music. It's a space for honest dialogue, musical curiosity, and the kinds of conversations that go beyond the surface.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with composer Adam Schoenberg for a thoughtful and deeply human conversation about artistic identity, creative conviction, and the long arc of a life in music. Adam reflects on the early success of Finding Rothko, the orchestral work that helped put him on the map, and what it means to look back on a piece written in his twenties with both gratitude and perspective.We talk about the tension between writing to please others and writing from a place of honesty. Adam shares a formative story from his student years about reshaping a piece to fit institutional expectations, only to realize later that the version that truly sounded like him was the one that opened doors. It leads us into a wider conversation about tonality, contemporary classical music, and why he believes today's musical landscape is more open to different kinds of expression than it once was.Adam also opens up about mentorship, education, and the very different kinds of teachers who shaped him along the way. We discuss studying with John Corigliano, the emotional difficulty of feeling artistically out of place as a young composer, and how those experiences ultimately influenced the kind of teacher he wanted to become for his own students.One of the most moving parts of our conversation centers on Adam's recent health crisis and the way it has changed his relationship to composing, ambition, and time. He speaks candidly about depression, survival, recovery, and the vulnerability of returning to the page after a long silence. We also talk about his percussion concerto Losing Earth, his collaborative relationship with percussionist Jake Nissly, and a powerful new work on the horizon: a Concerto for Body that explores illness, healing, and the orchestra as a living system.Key TakeawaysAdam Schoenberg's breakout orchestral work, Finding Rothko, launched his career and continues to resonate with audiences nearly 20 years later.He learned early on that shaping music to satisfy gatekeepers can come at the expense of artistic truth.Studying with mentors like Robert Beaser and John Corigliano helped him refine both his craft and his confidence as a composer.Adam sees today's classical music world as more stylistically open, with greater room for composers to write in an authentic voice.His percussion concerto Losing Earth, written for Jake Nissly and the San Francisco Symphony, grew out of a highly collaborative process and a desire to create an immersive musical experience.A serious medical crisis took Adam away from composing for nearly two years and forced him to rethink identity, ambition, and what kind of work still matters to him.His upcoming Concerto for Body reflects a new creative chapter shaped by illness, survival, and the experience of coming back.Music from the EpisodeAdam Schoenberg - American Symphony - I. Fanfare - Kansas City Symphony (Michael Stern, Conductor)Adam Schoenberg - Finding Rothko - III. Red - Kansas City Symphony (Michael Stern, Conductor)Adam Schoenberg - Losing Earth: Concerto for Percussion & Wind Ensemble - The University of Texas Wind Ensemble (Jerry Junkin, conductor) - Jake Nissly - percussionAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast where I sit down with musicians, composers, songwriters, and creative artists for honest conversations about craft, collaboration, career paths, and the deeper stories behind the work. It's a space for thoughtful musical dialogue, with a focus on process, perspective, and the lived experience of making art.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with composer, performer, and educator Casey Cangelosi for a conversation that moves comfortably between teaching, podcasting, composing, and the realities of building a life in the percussion world. Casey teaches at James Madison University, where he directs a busy percussion studio and constantly balances artistic ambition with the practical challenges of giving students meaningful performance opportunities.We talk about how he approaches programming percussion ensemble, often leaning toward smaller-group repertoire that allows more students to develop chamber instincts and real musical ownership. That naturally leads into a larger discussion about education, specifically the gap that can exist between strong performance skills and deep knowledge of repertoire. Casey makes a compelling case for listening, score study, and curiosity as essential parts of becoming a complete musician.A big part of Casey's recent creative life has been the Percussion Podcast, where he hosted more than 300 episodes of conversations with percussionists and composers. He reflects honestly on what that project gave him, as a communicator, teacher, and community builder, as well as the real workload of producing that many episodes and the challenge of keeping conversations fresh over time.We also spend time inside Casey's composing process. He talks about the difference between writing for hands versus writing for humans, and how limitations, instrumentation, skill level, or context can actually unlock more interesting musical ideas. Increasingly, he's thinking about accessibility in repertoire: writing music that still feels compelling but can reach more performers instead of only fitting one ideal player.Toward the end, Casey shares some of the unexpected places his music has recently appeared, including projects connected to theater, dance, and visual art, from a performance context in Mannheim, to an installation tied to Ligeti's 100 Metronomes, to a circus production in Italy using his piece Bad Touch. It's a reminder that percussion music continues to travel in surprising directions.Key TakeawaysTeaching requires balancing artistry and logistics — ensemble programming often means finding ways for more students to perform meaningfully.Listening and score study deepen musicianship — strong playing should be paired with a deep knowledge of repertoire.Podcasting builds community but demands consistency — producing hundreds of episodes requires serious time and energy.Constraints can unlock creativity — limitations often lead to stronger compositional ideas.Writing for performers matters — accessible repertoire can reach more musicians without sacrificing musical depth.Percussion music is expanding beyond traditional venues — Casey's work now appears in theater, visual art, and interdisciplinary projects.Curiosity fuels long careers — staying open to new contexts keeps creative work evolving.Music from the EpisodeScry - Casey CangelosiBlink - Casey CangelosiThe Big Audition - Casey CangelosiLigeti: Symphonic Poem for 100 Metronomes - Casey CangelosiAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer and songwriter Lila Forde for a conversation that feels like it's unfolding mid-song, equal parts instinct, craft, and heart. I actually discovered Lila in the most “Bandwich” way possible: while preparing for my episode with Larry Goldings, I heard her voice in a video and immediately texted a few musician friends saying, “You need to hear this singer.” That moment led to this conversation.Lila shares how her collaboration with Larry Goldings has been developing, and the creative process behind it: record everything, follow the spark, and build outward from the accidental moments that feel alive. Hearing her describe that approach, trusting discovery instead of forcing results, made me even more excited about what they're creating together.We spend a lot of time talking about voice, not range or technique, but identity. Lila recalls a powerful moment from John Legend during her time on The Voice: "Don't try to out-sing anyone… just be Lila." That idea opens up a deeper conversation about influence versus imitation, the pressure to fit into genre boxes, and the constant temptation to chase whatever sound the internet is rewarding in the moment.Lila's musical roots run deep, from classical piano at home to years in the Seattle Girls Choir, and later jazz studies that reshaped how she hears harmony and melody. She explains how ear training and solfege still influence her songwriting today, and why understanding just a little bit of theory can unlock creative freedom for singers.We also talk honestly about the gig-life reality that many musicians know well: some of your biggest growth happens when nobody is paying attention. For Lila, that meant years of hotel-lobby gigs, four hours a night, five nights a week, where she learned to experiment, take risks, and build a durable musical voice. We close by talking about her debut album Vessel, recorded live with the band in just three days, and how she's stepping into a bigger creative leadership role as she works on her next record.Key TakeawaysAuthenticity defines artistic voice — the goal isn't to out-sing others, but to sound like yourself.Creative discovery often comes from accidents — capturing and following spontaneous musical moments can lead to powerful ideas.Influence is different from imitation — artists grow by absorbing influences while protecting their own identity.Musical training builds creative vocabulary — ear training, harmony, and theory can open doors for singers.Gig experience shapes real musicianship — long, quiet gigs often provide the space to experiment and grow.Recording live captures energy — tracking Vessel with the band in three days preserved the immediacy of the music.Leadership evolves with each project — Lila is stepping further into the creative driver's seat with her next record.Music from the EpisodeTemptation - Lila FordeAll I Expected - Lila FordeBrick by Brick - Lila FordeAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Billy Allen and Jay Burgess from Billy Allen + The Pollies for a conversation that feels less like an interview and more like hanging out with musicians who care deeply about feel: the kind of musical quality you can't really quantify. Still, you know immediately when you hear it.We start with a full-circle moment: the band was scheduled to play Smith's Olde Bar in Atlanta the night of our conversation, a venue I know well. That quickly turns into stories about the realities of life as a working band: stairs, load-ins, and the kind of shared touring experiences that musicians everywhere instantly understand.From there, we trace the long arc of how Billy and Jay's collaboration actually came together. Their connection began years earlier when Jay first heard Billy singing in a bar, but it took time for the right musical moment to develop. That theme of timing runs through the entire conversation, how artists grow into themselves, and how patience can be the difference between a short-lived project and something sustainable.One of my favorite parts of the conversation centers on their philosophy about recording. Billy and Jay talk about their love for capturing music as a band in the room, embracing the push and pull of human tempo and the small imperfections that give a track its life. Jay describes himself as a “perfectionist at imperfection,” and we unpack that idea through classic records that breathe, groove as personality, and what “Southern” really means musically, less about technical flash and more about emotional honesty.We close by talking about what's ahead: the creative pressure of follow-up releases, the temptation to chase past successes, and why the healthiest path forward might be to keep writing, recording, and trusting the process.Key TakeawaysFeel whether the foundation of great music — groove and emotion often matters more than technical perfection.Timing matters in creative partnerships — the right collaboration can sometimes take years to develop fully.Touring creates a shared language among musicians — the realities of life on the road shape the band experience.Recording together captures something unique — the push and pull of human tempo can't be replicated digitally.Imperfection can be musical strength — small flaws often give recordings their personality.Southern musical traditions emphasize soul and storytelling — emotional honesty over technical showmanship.Trusting the process is essential — the best songs often reveal themselves when artists give them time.Music from the EpisodeAll of Me - Billy Allen + the PolliesLady Luck - Billy Allen + the PolliesIf You Want Me to Stay - Billy Allen + the PolliesAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the stories, influences, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Texas songwriter Amber Westerman for a conversation about new chapters, creative honesty, and the courage it takes to build a life that actually fits. Amber's journey has taken her from farming in Hawaii to writing songs in Nashville, and now back to a place that feels more like home.We talk about that turning point—recognizing when a path that once felt exciting no longer feels right. Amber shares what it meant to leave Nashville behind and return to Texas, and how that decision helped reconnect her with the reasons she started writing songs in the first place.Amber also speaks candidly about the less glamorous parts of being a modern artist, including social media burnout and the pressure to chase trends. Instead of leaning into the constant push for visibility, she's chosen to focus on authenticity and genuine connection with listeners—something that comes through clearly in both her songwriting and the way she approaches her career.Along the way, we talk about the story behind her single “Barefoot Days,” how Hawaii continues to shape her musical perspective, and what's coming next as she moves forward with new music and her band. It's an honest conversation about staying grounded, trusting your instincts, and building a creative life on your own terms.Key TakeawaysCreative paths evolve — sometimes the most important move is recognizing when it's time for a new chapter.Place shapes the music — Amber's time in Hawaii and Texas both deeply influence her songwriting voice.Authenticity matters more than trends — real connection with listeners lasts longer than viral moments.Social media pressure is real for artists — navigating that landscape requires intention and boundaries.Songwriting grows from lived experience — personal shifts often lead to deeper creative work.Returning home can reset perspective — reconnecting with roots can bring clarity and purpose.Building a sustainable music life requires honesty — both with yourself and with your audience.Music from the EpisodeBarefoot Days - Amber WestermanAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with percussionist Jake Nissly, Principal Percussionist of the San Francisco Symphony, for a conversation about what it actually takes to build and sustain a career at the highest level of orchestral playing. Jake's résumé is remarkable, but what stands out even more is the range of hats he wears: orchestral musician, soloist, educator, department chair at the San Francisco Conservatory of Music, drum set player, former drum corps kid, and even Little League coach.We spend time unpacking the reality of orchestral auditions, the intense preparation, the psychological pressure of playing behind a screen, and the almost figure-skating-level precision required to compete in that world. Jake walks through his own path: winning the Detroit Symphony job at 26, then later the Cleveland Orchestra, and ultimately facing the difficult experience of not receiving tenure. Rather than ending his trajectory, that moment reshaped it and eventually led him to the San Francisco Symphony.One of my favorite parts of this conversation centers on Jake's concept of feel. He credits much of his orchestral success to his background in drum set and drum corps, where groove, flexibility, and listening are everything. That experience, he says, translates directly into orchestral playing, even in repertoire like Mahler or Ravel's Bolero, where there's still a pocket to find if you're listening closely enough.We also talk about teaching and the changing landscape for young musicians. Jake shares thoughtful insights about how YouTube and digital access have transformed preparation, often producing incredibly polished players who sometimes struggle to develop ownership, personality, and soul in their playing. It's an honest conversation about pedagogy, resilience, and the kind of musicianship that lifts everyone in the room.Key TakeawaysOrchestral auditions demand extraordinary precision — success often comes down to microscopic musical details.Career paths are rarely linear — setbacks can become turning points rather than endings.Groove matters in orchestral music — Jake's drum set and drum corps background inform his orchestral feel.Listening is the core skill — great musicians adjust in real time to the ensemble around them.Technical mastery alone isn't enough — personality and ownership bring music to life.Teaching requires adapting to new generations — digital resources have reshaped how students prepare.Leadership in music is collaborative — the best players elevate the entire ensemble.Music from the EpisodeJohn Adams - City Noir: I. The City and its Double - St. Louis Symphony (David Robertson, conductor) - Jake Nissly - drum setAdam Schoenberg - Losing Earth: Concerto for Percussion & Wind Ensemble - The University of Texas Wind Ensemble (Jerry Junkin, conductor) - Jake Nissly - percussionAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Elizabeth Ziman of Elizabeth & the Catapult, and at the time of this conversation, she's about to release her new album. Now that the record is officially out in the world, we get to talk about everything that went into bringing it to life.We begin right at that moment, standing on the edge of a release. Elizabeth describes the feeling of finally letting go of a project after years of writing, recording, and refining, comparing it to sending something deeply personal out into the world and hoping it finds its place.From there, we dig into how this album differs from her past work. What started as scattered home recordings across multiple cities eventually became a deeply collaborative project, bringing together friends, choir members, and longtime collaborators. It's a record shaped not just by sound, but by movement, transition, and a desire to reconnect after a period of isolation.We also spend time talking about something that really resonates: the balance between perfectionism and letting go. Elizabeth shares how some songs took years to finish, while others were written and recorded quickly, and how learning to trust both processes has been a major part of her growth as an artist.There's also a fascinating conversation about the realities of being an independent artist today, the tension between creating meaningful work and navigating the demands of social media, promotion, and constant visibility. Elizabeth speaks candidly about that push and pull, and how she tries to stay grounded in what actually matters: the music and the connection it creates.One of my favorite moments in this episode is going full circle, talking about seeing her live back in 2009 at Eddie's Attic in Atlanta. That moment becomes a springboard into reflecting on a nearly 20-year career, and how her perspective on music has shifted from “this is hard” to “I get to do this.”We also explore her background, from classical piano and Manhattan School of Music competitions to Berklee, where she found her artistic voice and began collaborating with musicians like Esperanza Spalding. Along the way, we talk about film scoring, directing a women's choir, and the many creative paths that continue to shape her work.This is a conversation about evolution, perspective, and learning to hold both discipline and freedom at once.Key TakeawaysElizabeth Ziman's new album is now out, marking a deeply collaborative and expansive creative chapter.The project began as home recordings across multiple cities before evolving into a full studio production.Balancing perfectionism with spontaneity has become central to her songwriting process.The modern music landscape presents both opportunities and challenges, especially around visibility and promotion.Nearly 20 years into her career, her perspective has shifted toward gratitude and creative freedom.Her background in classical piano and Berklee continues to influence her work today.Collaborating across disciplines—film scoring, choir directing, and teaching—feeds her creativity.Music from the EpisodeResponsible Friend - Elizabeth and the Catapult50/50 - Elizabeth and the CatapultBored of Myself - Elizabeth and the CatapultI Love You Still - Elizabeth and the CatapultAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, songwriters, and creative artists for thoughtful conversations about their craft, their journey, and the experiences that shape the music we hear.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer-songwriter Ryan Dart for a conversation that goes far beyond music, into growth, healing, and what it really means to live honestly as an artist.We start with Ryan's songwriting process, which is less of a routine and more of a way of life. Whether he's hiking, sitting in a restaurant, or wrapping up the day, writing has become a daily practice, one that serves as both therapy and a way to process the world around him.From there, we rewind to his early years, growing up in rural Arkansas, surrounded by music from artists like Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, and Townes Van Zandt. That foundation shaped not only his sound but also his approach to storytelling and songwriting.Ryan shares his unique journey through the music industry, working as a producer, engineer, tour manager, and guitar tech, including time on major tours with bands like The Who, Aerosmith, and Van Halen. Seeing the industry from every angle could have pushed him away from music, but instead, it clarified his purpose.We spend a lot of time discussing something at the center of this episode: growth through hardship. Ryan opens up about going through a divorce, rebuilding his life, and how that process completely reshaped his songwriting. Rather than rushing to document heartbreak, he allowed time and healing to transform those experiences into something deeper and more honest.That same honesty carries into a conversation about sobriety, self-awareness, and learning to let go of people-pleasing. Ryan talks about how removing those layers has opened his creativity in ways he never had access to before, and how writing from a place of truth has changed everything.We also get into the practical side of his current creative life, recording his new album in Colorado, committing to writing and releasing a new song every week, and building a body of work that reflects who he is right now.This is a conversation about starting over, trusting the process, and creating from a place that's real.Key TakeawaysRyan Dart approaches songwriting as a daily practice rooted in observation and emotion.His early influences—from Bob Dylan to Johnny Cash—shaped his storytelling voice.Working behind the scenes in the music industry gave him a full perspective on the business.Growth through divorce and personal reflection led to a completely new songwriting voice.Sobriety and self-awareness have opened up a deeper level of creativity.Letting go of people-pleasing has allowed him to write more honestly.His weekly songwriting project is building both discipline and a large creative catalog.Music from the EpisodeIf Love Don't Break You - Ryan DartDirt Road Woman - Ryan DartDancin' On Your Porch - Ryan DartAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is my chance to sit down with musicians, songwriters, and creative artists for thoughtful conversations about their craft, their journey, and the experiences that shape the music we hear.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with guitarist, composer, and producer Matthew Stevens for a conversation about identity, collaboration, and the kind of artistic clarity that only seems to come through real-life change. I've been a fan of Matthew's playing for a long time, so getting to talk with him about his new self-titled record felt especially meaningful.We start with the album itself, and one of the first things I ask him is why this record carries his name. Matthew shares that the years leading up to it brought major shifts, moving from New York to Boston, beginning to teach at Berklee, going through divorce, and eventually finding a new sense of grounding in his personal life. What comes through clearly is that this album feels like his most complete expression of himself so far. It's not self-titled as a branding move. It's self-titled because it sounds like who he is now.We also talk in depth about collaboration, how Matthew brought in trusted co-producers Josh Johnson and Eric Doob, and how their presence helped him let go of control in a healthy way. That thread runs through the whole conversation: surrounding yourself with people you trust, writing with specific musicians in mind, and allowing the music to become a real conversation. We get into the sound of the record too, its grounding rhythm section, the feel of tracks like “Take Heart”, and the way so much of the album was captured live in the room over just a few days.One of my favorite parts of this conversation is hearing Matthew talk about influence, producing, and teaching. We talk about working with heroes like Jeff Parker and Terri Lyne Carrington, producing the beautiful Doc Watson tribute project, and what it's like to return to Berklee now as a faculty member after being deeply shaped by that school as a student. We also get into the pressures younger musicians face now, especially around social media and self-promotion—and Matthew offers a really grounded perspective on what it means to use that time instead to build actual musicianship.This is a thoughtful conversation about sound, feel, growth, and what it means to become more fully yourself as an artist.Key TakeawaysA self-titled album can be a personal statement — for Matthew, this record reflects the clearest version of who he is right now.Life changes can deepen artistic identity — moving, teaching, heartbreak, and rebuilding all shaped this music.Trusting collaborators can open the music up — working with Josh Johnson and Eric Doob helped Matthew let go of some control and go deeper.Sound and feel are at the center of everything — even simple musical ideas come alive when the players are deeply connected.Producing is about meeting artists where they are — Matthew's work on the Doc Watson tribute shows how great producers guide without forcing.Community is one of music school's greatest gifts — the relationships built there often matter as much as the training itself.Young musicians face new pressures — Matthew is thoughtful about how social media can compete with the slower work of building real craft.Music from the EpisodeTake Heart - Matthew Stevens (ft. Joel Ross)Who Does She Hope to Be - Matthew Stevens (ft. Terri Lynne Carrington & Jeff Parker)Hazy -Matthew Stevens (ft. Josh Johnson)Alberta - Matthew Stevens (ft. Anna B Savage & Josh Johnson)About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

About the EpisodeOn this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer and songwriter Aubrie Sellers for a conversation about her remarkable new album Attachment Theory, and the deeper creative world she built around it. I had already been listening to the record ahead of our talk, and what struck me immediately was how singular it feels: cinematic, emotionally sharp, and sonically timeless in a way that somehow feels both old and futuristic at once.We talk about how Attachment Theory became a true concept record. Aubrie explains that she did not start with a concept and then write toward it. Instead, the songs gradually revealed a shared emotional center, all circling relationship patterns, vulnerability, and the psychology of connection. That realization eventually led to one of the most interesting parts of the project: a companion podcast, with one episode tied to each song, exploring attachment theory and relationship dynamics in a more direct and concrete way.One of my favorite parts of this conversation is hearing Aubrie talk honestly about performance anxiety, introversion, and learning how to shape a music career around who she actually is as a person. She shares how severe stage fright marked her early touring years, how working on her general anxiety changed things more than simple repetition ever did, and how she has become more intentional about saying yes only to the kinds of opportunities that actually fit her life and temperament.We also dig into the sound of the record, her longtime collaboration with Ethan Ballinger, the atmospheric textures and vocal treatments, the  influence that shows up in places, and why the album feels so cinematic. Aubrie talks about the value of leaving room for experimentation in the studio, letting musicians bring their own voice into the process, and making something polished without sanding off all the soul.Along the way, we also talk about Nashville, bluegrass, rawness in music, social media, and the freedom that comes from creating on your own terms. This is a thoughtful conversation about identity, vulnerability, artistry, and building a creative life that feels honest.Key TakeawaysAttachment Theory grew into a concept record naturally — the songs revealed a shared emotional thread before the full concept came into focus.The companion podcast adds another layer — each episode expands on the emotional themes of a song through relationship psychology and personal reflection.Introversion and artistry can coexist — Aubrie has worked to build a career structure that actually fits who she is.Performance anxiety does not always disappear on its own — mindset and emotional work can matter as much as experience.A polished record can still feel raw — the goal is clarity and atmosphere without losing soul or imperfection.Social media can be used with intention — Aubrie has found ways to connect authentically without treating it as empty content churn.Honesty is the through line — whether it is country, bluegrass, rock, or something in between, the music that moves her comes from a real place.Music from the EpisodeSubatomic - Aubrie SellersTrigger Happy - Aubrie SellersDelusional - Aubrie SellersLittle Rooms - Aubrie SellersAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the stories, influences, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

About the EpisodeOn this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with keyboardist, arranger, bandleader, and all-around musical Swiss Army knife Jeff Babko. Jeff is one of those musicians whose career quietly spans an incredible range of musical worlds, from television and touring to studio work and bandleading, and our conversation ends up feeling like a masterclass in how to build a life in music while staying curious and grounded.We start in the present, where Jeff has recently stepped into a larger leadership role on Jimmy Kimmel Live! following the passing of longtime music director Cleto Escobedo. Jeff reflects on what that responsibility means to him and how leading a band in that environment requires both musical preparation and a deep sense of trust and respect for the musicians around you.From there we rewind to an important musical turning point. Jeff tells the story of seeing James Taylor live in college, backed by a band that included Don Grolnick, Jimmy Johnson, Mike Landau, and Carlos Vega. For Jeff, that moment crystallized what “grown-up musicianship” could look like—players serving the music with taste, humility, and deep craft.We also talk about Jeff's time at the University of Miami's Frost School of Music and the lifelong community that came out of those years. That theme of musical community carries into his long-running collaboration with Steve Martin and Martin Short, where Jeff has learned firsthand how musical timing and comedic timing often work the same way. Playing for comedians, it turns out, requires the same instincts as great improvisation.Toward the end of the conversation, we zoom out to bigger questions: legacy, awards, AI, and what actually lasts in a musical life. Jeff shares a perspective I really love: the most meaningful musical moments often aren't the ones captured online. They're the warm-up before a taping, the look between bandmates, or the feeling of someone in the audience connecting with the music in real time.Key TakeawaysVersatility is a career advantage — Jeff's work spans television, touring, arranging, and bandleading.Leadership grows from trust and preparation — especially in environments like Jimmy Kimmel Live!.Seeing great musicians early can shape a path — Jeff's experience watching James Taylor's band left a lasting impression.Musical communities matter — relationships formed in school and early careers often last decades.Comedy and music share timing instincts — playing for comedians requires the same listening and responsiveness as improvisation.Humility sustains a career — serving the music and the band keeps the work meaningful.The most powerful musical moments are human ones — often unseen and impossible to capture online.Music from the EpisodeHead Trauma - Mondo Trio (Jeff Babko, Jeff Coffin, & Vinnie Colauita)International Client - Jeff BabkoFranklin - Jeff BabkoNostalgia is For Suckas - Jeff BabkoAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer and songwriter Tenille Townes for a conversation about truth, freedom, and the long road back to yourself. I've admired Tenille's writing and singing for a long time, and one of the first things I tell her in this conversation is simple: when she sings, I believe her. That kind of authenticity sits at the center of everything we talk about.We spend a lot of time on her new independent album and what it means to release music on her own terms. Tenille shares how the record began in a deeply personal way—just her, a guitar, and a room at home, trying to find the truth in the songs again after stepping away from the major label system. What started as demos turned into the record itself, and in that process she found something bigger than a new batch of songs. She found her voice again.One of the most powerful parts of this conversation is our discussion of “Enabling,” a song that speaks directly to love, boundaries, self-abandonment, and the complicated emotional patterns we carry through relationships. Tenille talks about writing it after a real-life moment that forced her to look honestly at her own habits—especially the way people-pleasing can blur into losing yourself. It's one of those songs that says something difficult with incredible clarity.We also talk about what independence has given her creatively. Tenille describes this season as a return to the fearless spirit she had when she first moved to Nashville—a feeling of having everything to prove, nothing to lose, and joy at the center of the process. That freedom shows up not only in the songs, but in the way she's choosing to release and share the record now.Along the way, we get into her early love of music, the voices and records that shaped her, growing up in the wide-open landscape of Grande Prairie, Alberta, the courage it took to send a CD to Bryan Adams and ask him to sing on a song, and the incredible heart behind her long-running Big Hearts for Big Kids fundraiser. This is a conversation about songwriting, healing, home, and having the nerve to leap when something matters.Key TakeawaysAuthenticity is everything — when Tenille sings, the emotional truth of the song comes through immediately.Independence can bring creative freedom — releasing this record on her own terms helped her reconnect with her artistic instincts.Sometimes the demo is the record — simple guitar-and-vocal recordings became the emotional core of this project.“Enabling” is about more than one relationship — it also reflects patterns of self-abandonment and people-pleasing.Home shapes the writing — the open skies and emotional landscape of northern Alberta remain part of her creative fingerprint.Taking the shot matters — whether calling a promoter at age 10 or mailing a CD to Bryan Adams, Tenille keeps acting on bold instincts.Music can be a force for real change — her Big Hearts for Big Kids work shows how songs and community can directly support people in need.Music from the EpisodeOrdinary Love Song - Tenille TownesEnabling - Tenille TownesThe Acrobat - Tenille Townes with Lori McKennaThe Thing That Wrecks You - Tenille Townes & Bryan AdamsAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the stories, influences, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with guitarist and composer Bob Lanzetti, best known as one of the founding members of Snarky Puppy. I've admired Bob's playing for a long time, so getting the chance to talk with him felt especially meaningful. We begin with something many musicians quietly carry with them: the fear of hand issues and how that concern evolves over the course of a career. Bob reflects honestly on how he thinks about it now compared to earlier years.From there, we rewind to the beginning—growing up around his dad's guitar, discovering The Beatles, and the simple invitation that changed everything: “Learn this song and you can sit in with my band.” That moment set Bob firmly on the path toward becoming a guitarist. He traces his journey through early mentors, jazz studies, and eventually to the University of North Texas, where he found a musical community that would change his life—and where Snarky Puppy first came together.We spend time talking about the musical ecosystem around North Texas as well, especially the gospel and R&B scenes that shaped Bob's ear in ways the classroom couldn't. Bob shares how Snarky Puppy actually learns and rehearses music—often through oral tradition, demos, and Logic sessions—and how the band's three-guitar setup works without stepping on each other's sonic space. Along the way, he reflects on something younger musicians often overlook: the importance of restraint, listening, and self-balancing within a band.One of my favorite parts of the conversation centers on Bob's Nosferatu project, where he composed and performed an original score for the classic silent film during the COVID years. That project opened the door to exploring 20th-century classical textures, string writing, layered guitars, and production techniques. We wrap up by talking about the wide range of influences that shape Bob's music—from Charlie Christian and Jim Hall to Sonic Youth and Derek Bailey—and what's ahead in 2026, including GroundUP Festival, touring with Snarky Puppy alongside the Metropole Orchestra, his trio work, and the growing role of producing in his creative life.Key TakeawaysMusicians confront physical concerns over time — long careers require resilience and perspective.Early invitations can shape a life path — a simple opportunity to sit in with a band set Bob on the guitar journey.Community matters — the University of North Texas and the surrounding Dallas scene were foundational for Snarky Puppy.Listening and restraint define great band playing — especially in complex ensemble settings like a three-guitar lineup.Musical learning often happens by ear — oral tradition and demos play a huge role in how bands develop material.Creative side projects expand the palette — Bob's Nosferatu score opened the door to new textures and production ideas.Producing can become another creative outlet — shaping the sound of recordings scratches the same itch as performing.Music from the EpisodeB - Bob LanzettiAnonymous - Bob LanzettiThe Seven Deadly Sins (from Nosferatu) - Bob LanzettiJenny is a Donkey - Bob LanzettiAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with guitarist and composer Stash Wyslouch for a conversation that moves easily between music, teaching, parenthood, and the deeper question of how artists actually learn. Stash has built a unique musical voice that draws from bluegrass, jazz, metal, and avant-garde traditions, and hearing how those influences intersect in his life and work makes for a fascinating conversation.We begin with a big life moment: Stash recently welcomed a newborn into the world. He reflects on how becoming a parent shifts perspective—not just personally, but creatively. Themes like humility, empathy, patience, and time suddenly carry new weight, and those ideas show up in how he approaches collaboration, teaching, and the creative process itself.From there, we trace his musical path—from early experiences in heavy metal to discovering bluegrass, jazz, and experimental music. Growing up in New England, studying at Berklee College of Music, and being part of a tight-knit musical community all helped shape his artistic voice. We also talk about the complicated role of labels like “avant-garde”—how they can be useful shorthand while also limiting how audiences hear the music.We spend real time on influences—Charles Ives, Arnold Schoenberg, Lennie Tristano, and Anthony Braxton—and how ideas from those composers intersect with improvisation, ear training, and creative freedom. And finally, Stash shares details about his upcoming duo record Matty and Debbie with drummer Sean Trischka, a project that pulls together bluegrass, jazz, metal, hymnody, and pure curiosity into one cohesive musical statement.Key TakeawaysParenthood reshapes perspective — becoming a parent can influence creativity, collaboration, and priorities.Musical identity can span genres — Stash's work draws from metal, bluegrass, jazz, and experimental music.Labels can both help and hinder — terms like “avant-garde” describe music but can also narrow how people hear it.Community shapes artists — New England roots and Berklee connections helped shape Stash's musical path.Learning the process matters more than chasing results — growth comes from patience and curiosity.Rhythm and feel take time — some musical skills simply can't be rushed.Creative projects thrive on curiosity — his upcoming duo record with Sean Trischka explores multiple traditions at once.Music from the EpisodeAcoustic Metal Party - Stash WyslouchStash's Turkey in the Straw - Stash WyslouchOver in the Gloryland - Stash WyslouchAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with pedal steel guitarist Travis Toy for a wide-ranging conversation about craft, longevity, and what it really takes to build a career on the road. Travis has spent decades shaping the sound of modern country music—from his long run with Rascal Flatts to his current role touring with Luke Bryan—and his perspective comes from thousands of nights onstage.We start by tracing his musical roots in Kentucky, where Travis grew up surrounded by music and developed an early obsession with the pedal steel guitar. Those early years of practice and curiosity laid the foundation for the disciplined approach he still brings to every gig today.From there, we talk about the realities of the Nashville scene: arriving in town, finding opportunities, and slowly building a reputation that leads to bigger stages and long-term touring gigs. Travis shares stories from his early days in Nashville and reflects on what it meant to spend years touring with Rascal Flatts before stepping into a new chapter with Luke Bryan.We also dig into his solo instrumental record and why writing original music was important to him. Along the way, Travis talks about how his background as a drummer and his love of fusion music still influence his phrasing and groove on pedal steel. It's a thoughtful look at touring culture, social media, and the mindset required to stay grounded in a career that lives on the road.Key TakeawaysMastery starts early — Travis's obsessive practice as a young musician shaped the discipline he brings to every gig.Pedal steel continues to evolve — modern players are expanding the instrument beyond traditional roles.Reputation matters in Nashville — professionalism and reliability open doors to long-term touring work.Touring is a long game — sustaining a career on the road requires balance, perspective, and resilience.Musical influences cross genres — Travis's background as a drummer and fusion fan shapes his approach to steel guitar.Writing original music can deepen your voice — his solo record gave him space to explore the instrument in new ways.Longevity comes from staying grounded — focusing on the music and the people around it keeps the career moving forward.Music from the EpisodeEntry Point (Travis Toy)JDT (Travis Toy)Wingman (Travis Toy)Alabama Jubilee (Travis Toy)Hot Button (Travis Toy)About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams, featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the stories, influences, and experiences that shape a life in music.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with bassist Chris Tordini for a thoughtful conversation about what it really looks like to build a sustainable life in music. Chris has quietly become one of the most respected bassists on the scene, known for his deep musicality, versatility, and the kind of collaborative spirit that keeps musicians coming back to work with him.We talk about his current role holding down a full-time Broadway chair with Hadestown, and how that kind of musical stability fits into a career that has largely been built around creative projects and collaboration. Chris shares what it's like stepping into that world—where consistency, preparation, and reliability are everything—and how it contrasts with the improvisational spaces he often inhabits as a jazz and creative musician.Along the way, we trace Chris's musical path—from early choir singing and piano lessons to discovering both electric and upright bass. His story is a great reminder that a meaningful career in music isn't always about chasing the spotlight. Often it's about serving the music, supporting the composer's vision, and learning to leave ego at the door.We also spend time talking about Chris's long-standing musical partnership with Becca Stevens. Their collaboration spans many years and projects, and hearing Chris reflect on how that band identity developed—through trust, chemistry, discipline, and shared musical values—is one of the most rewarding parts of this conversation.Key TakeawaysA sustainable music career often balances art and stability — work like Broadway can provide a foundation for creative projects.Serving the music matters more than serving the ego — great collaborators listen first.Versatility is essential — Chris's path from choir and piano to electric and upright bass shaped a wide-ranging career.Preparation and reliability keep musicians working — professionalism is as important as talent.Long-term collaborations deepen the music — partnerships like Chris's work with Becca Stevens grow stronger over time.Consistency builds reputation — careers are often built quietly through trust and dependability.Listening is the bassist's superpower — great bass playing starts with supporting the musical moment.Music from the EpisodeImperfect Animals (Becca Stevens)The Surge (Angelika Niescier)Transient Beings (Sebastiane Noelle)Attention Flaws (Chris Speed Trio)About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the influences, decisions, and experiences that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with guitarist and composer Mark Lettieri for a conversation that lives right at the intersection of groove, discipline, and musical curiosity. Mark has spent years carving out a distinctive voice on the guitar—whether through his solo work, his baritone guitar explorations, or his playing with Snarky Puppy and Fearless Flyers—and this conversation is a window into how that voice developed.We talk about what has been a particularly full year for Mark: touring internationally, playing iconic rooms like the Blue Note, and balancing the demands of the road with the rare gift of time at home. For Mark, staying active isn't just part of the job—it's a creative engine. The more he plays, the more ideas emerge.One of my favorite parts of our conversation centers on restraint—the idea that what you don't play can matter just as much as what you do. Mark reflects on the records he grew up listening to, where the entire band worked together to shape a moment, and how those lessons show up when he's on stage or in the studio with world-class musicians.We also get into the nuts and bolts of being a working musician today: communication in the studio, professionalism on the gig, showing up prepared, and reading the room. Along the way, Mark shares stories about his early career in advertising and PR, a surprising David Crosby connection that introduced him to open tunings straight from the source, and what's ahead—including a fascinating upcoming project with sitarist Purbhayan Chatterjee, new baritone-driven material, and the continuing musical adventures that connect his solo work, Snarky Puppy, and Fearless Flyers.Key TakeawaysRestraint is musical power — sometimes the most impactful choice is knowing when not to play.Groove starts with listening — the pocket comes from how musicians respond to one another in real time.Professionalism matters — showing up early, prepared, and ready to collaborate keeps you in demand.Baritone guitar as a voice — Mark has helped expand the instrument's role beyond heavy music into funk and groove-based contexts.Creative momentum comes from staying active — touring, writing, and performing feed the creative cycle.Musical identity evolves — Mark's journey reflects influences from rock, funk, jazz, and beyond.Collaboration drives discovery — projects like his upcoming work with sitarist Purbhayan Chatterjee push his sound into new territory.Music from the EpisodeMagnetar (Mark Lettieri - feat. Adam Deitch & Shaun Martin)Gigantactis (Mark Lettieri Group with the WDR Big Band)Voyager One (Mark Lettieri - feat. Nate Smith & Bobby Sparks II)Blue Straggler (Mark Lettieri - feat. Travis Toy) About the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by Brad Williams featuring conversations with musicians, composers, producers, and creative thinkers about their musical journeys. Each episode explores the stories, influences, and moments that shape a life in music—one conversation at a time.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with singer-songwriter Grace Humphries, and we talk about what it feels like to be at the very beginning of an artist's journey—while already carrying real life, real grief, and a clear sense of purpose into the music.Grace shares what it's been like arriving at Belmont University as a spring admit, stepping into music school life for the first time and suddenly being surrounded by people who truly understand the creative path she's on. For the first time, she's in an environment where songwriting, performing, and artistic ambition feel normal—and that shift has been energizing.We also trace her musical origin story. Grace has been singing since childhood, gradually teaching herself piano and guitar while learning how to shape songs with intention. Along the way, we talk honestly about the profound impact of losing her brother Liam, and how that experience reshaped her worldview, her faith, and ultimately the emotional center of her songwriting.There have also been some remarkable moments along the way. At just 16 years old, Grace recorded at Abbey Road Studios, an experience that helped solidify her commitment to pursuing music seriously. Since then, she's spent time searching for the right creative collaborators and has now begun recording new material at Soundstage Studios in Nashville alongside top-tier session musicians.We also talk about the craft of songwriting itself—learning to balance authenticity with the realities of the modern music industry. Grace reflects on how her faith influences her work without forcing it into a single genre category, and why she's focused on staying grounded in the music even as the industry continues to evolve. By the end of our conversation, it's clear she's an artist with both talent and a strong sense of identity about the path she wants to follow.Key TakeawaysWhat it's like entering Belmont University as a spring admit and finding a creative community.Grace Humphries's early musical beginnings—teaching herself piano and guitar while learning to write songs.How the loss of her brother Liam shaped her perspective, faith, and songwriting voice.The surreal experience of recording at Abbey Road Studios at age 16.Finding the right producer and beginning new recordings at Soundstage Studios in Nashville.How Grace balances authentic songwriting with commercial awareness.Why she remains focused on the work despite the rapidly shifting music industry.Music from the EpisodeWhy'd You Give Up — Grace HumphriesFor Years — Grace HumphriesAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Larry Goldings—keyboardist, organist, composer, and one of the most respected musical collaborators working today. Larry has built a career that stretches across jazz, pop, film, television, and session work, but what really stands out in our conversation is his deep commitment to serving the music first.We start by talking about some of the projects currently on his plate. From a new recording with his organ trio featuring Peter Bernstein and Bill Stewart, to an unexpected and joyful children's album with tap-dance legend Melinda Sullivan, Larry's creative world is constantly expanding. Whether it's instrumental jazz, singer collaborations, or more experimental projects, his curiosity keeps pushing him into new musical spaces.A major part of the conversation centers on his long-running role in James Taylor's band. Larry shares how he first connected with James in the early 2000s and what it takes to serve those songs night after night at the highest level. Playing alongside musicians like Steve Gadd, he reflects on what he's learned about feel, restraint, and the kind of deep musical trust that makes a rhythm section truly work.From there we head down the rabbit hole into Scary Goldings and Scary Pockets, the groove-driven projects that have introduced Larry to a whole new generation of listeners online. He talks about how those sessions began, why the format encourages spontaneity, and how collaboration and curiosity remain the driving forces behind the music.For the gearheads and music nerds—myself included—we also revisit a memorable moment from the Michael Brecker “Time Is of the Essence” sessions. Larry recalls the experience of playing alongside Elvin Jones, navigating the nerves of the session, and the unforgettable moment when the music suddenly locked into place.Along the way, we also get into the craft of organ playing itself—especially Larry's approach to left-hand bass, and why bass players have influenced his musical language just as much as other organists. At the end of the day, everything comes back to the same principle: serve the feel, serve the song.Key TakeawaysLarry Goldings's current creative projects, including a new organ trio record with Peter Bernstein and Bill Stewart.The unexpected collaboration with tap-dance legend Melinda Sullivan on a children's album.How Larry joined James Taylor's band and what he's learned from years on that stage.The musical philosophy of rhythm sections built on feel, restraint, and trust, especially alongside Steve Gadd.The origins of Scary Goldings and Scary Pockets and how those sessions reached a global audience online.A behind-the-scenes story from the Michael Brecker “Time Is of the Essence” recording sessions with Elvin Jones.Why Larry's organ language is shaped as much by bass players as by other keyboardists.Music from the EpisodeThe Shakes — Scary PocketsTimeline — Michael BreckerSolid Jack — The Larry Goldings TrioDisco Pills — Scary PocketsArc of the Pendulum — Michael BreckerAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com

On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Jake & Shelby, a Nashville-based songwriting duo whose music is built on a natural chemistry that you can hear immediately. Our conversation feels a lot like their songs—honest, relaxed, and rooted in the process of figuring things out together.We start in the middle of a Nashville winter storm in early 2026, when power outages and unexpected downtime forced them to slow down—and unexpectedly reignited their songwriting spark. From there, we rewind to how the two of them first met through Jake's dad's music school, and the wide range of artists that shaped their musical instincts along the way, including Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, Lizzy McAlpine, John Mayer, Stevie Ray Vaughan, The Cars, and Madison Cunningham.One of my favorite parts of the conversation is hearing how their duet sound developed naturally rather than by design. They didn't study classic duos or try to replicate an established formula. Instead, their voices gradually found each other. Jake talks about how he essentially learned harmony from Shelby, and how their blend now feels like one shared musical voice—two distinct tones moving with the same phrasing and instinct.We also talk about some of the surreal early moments in their career, including the sudden attention that came when Michael Bublé and Kim Kardashian shared their music, amplifying their audience almost overnight. That early exposure opened doors, but it also led them to the next stage of their work: moving beyond the stripped-down Just Us era and into a fully produced debut album recorded across Nashville and Los Angeles.Along the way, they share how songs typically come together—often starting with a guitar idea, building melody, and shaping lyrics in shared phone notes. Collaboration, for them, means letting the song win when disagreements come up. By the end of the conversation, it's clear they've already built a massive catalog—nearly 100 finished songs—and they're still very much at the beginning of their story.Key TakeawaysHow Jake & Shelby's musical partnership began through Jake's dad's music school.The wide range of influences shaping their sound, from Taylor Swift and Lizzy McAlpine to Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Cars.Why their vocal harmony developed organically rather than by modeling classic duos.The surprising early boost when Michael Bublé and Kim Kardashian shared their music online.The shift from their stripped-down Just Us era into a full-band debut album.How songs often start with guitar ideas, shared phone notes, and collaborative lyric writing.Why their rule during disagreements is simple: let the song win.Music from the EpisodeLoophole — Jake & ShelbyYou Don't Know — Jake & ShelbyShut Up and Kiss Me — Jake & ShelbyFalling Out of Love — Jake & ShelbyMorning Light — Jake & ShelbyAbout the PodcastThe Bandwich Tapes is a long-form conversation podcast where host Brad Williams sits down with some of the most thoughtful musicians, composers, and artists working today. The show explores the stories behind the music—creative process, collaboration, career paths, and the human experiences that shape the sounds we love.Connect with the ShowEmail: contact@thebandwichtapes.com