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Artist manager and booking agent David Key discusses how he went from a talent buyer to tour managing the band Ded as well as managing the artist Anarbor. We also talk about the importance of trust between an artist and a manager. Follow David Key: Instagram (Atlas Artist Group) Website (Atlas Artist Group) Follow Creatives Prevail: Instagram TikTok We would love to hear from you! Please give us a review, this really helps get others to listen in. Any suggestions on how we can improve? DM us on Instagram or TikTok. Intro music: ‘Somebody' (Instrumental) by The Runner Up Outro music: ‘Let's Ride' (Instrumental) by Gabe Kubanda Host: Mike Zimmerlich Produced by: Omelette Prevail Post-Production: EarthtoMoira Tags: Creator Economy Booking Artist Management Touring

The Doc invites Slade and Danny of the show Anarbor on the show! The three discuss, the most recent shows, starting Anarbor, musical inspirations, Andy Chavez and his inspiration, the new album, and of course Salcatta tortoises! Make sure to listen in! Monologue (3 man update): 0:00:21 Birthday Suit 1: 16:01 Ripped From the Headlines: 18:32 Anarbor - Good Time: 35:47 Shoutouts: 40:02 Previously on The Doc G Show: 46:56 Quickhitters: 48:38 Anarbor Interview: 55:45 The Doc G Top 3: 1:41:19 Birthday Suit 2: 1:51:50 Birthday Suit 3: 1:54:40

Like a letter in a suitcase, we lathered up some loose fun with Danny and Slade of the awesome Phoenix-based alternative rock outfit, Anarbor, discussing the newfound musical direction of their latest album entitled "Love & Drugs" which is so good so listen up.

Anarbor's song "18" was not released as a single from the band's 2013 album Burnout, which is why the song's enormous presence many years later on TikTok came as a surprise. In this episode, vocalist and bassist Slade Echeverria discusses the writing and recording of the relatable pop gem that became a viral sensation. To support Chris DeMakes A Podcast and get weekly bonus episodes, head to http://www.ChrisDeMakes.com to sign up for the Supporting Cast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode, Jimmy and Mike hang out with the boys from Arizona-based band Anarbor!  We talk to them out the record they wrote and recorded and scrapped before writing a new one, “Love & Drugs” (out now!), getting back on the road with the boys in The Higher this year and their “bacons,” rock-climbing, plants and animals including Slade's humping tortoises… That's right…A real live tortoise-sex-show on the latest episode of Bacon is My Podcast! Check out Anarbor's new record “Love & Drugs” out now, their website http://www.anarborband.com and their socials: @anarborGet some more helpings of BIMP at http://www.patreon.com/baconismypodcast Find everything else BIMP:Twitter: @BaconisMyPodInstagram: @BaconisMyPodFacebook: www.facebook.com/baconismypodAnd of course our website: www.baconismypodcast.com Want some visual Bacon is My Podcast?Check out this episode and all others on Strangerhood TV on YouTube.www.strangerhoodtv.com and make sure to check out all the other great content on the channel!Get additional BIMP content at www.patreon.com/baconismypodcastWe're proudly sponsored by Manscaped and when you use the promo code BACONPOD at manscaped.com you'll get 20% your entire order!Don't forget to use the promo code BACON at our sponsors DrinkWildBills.com, PodDecks.com and GrillYourAssOff.com for 10% off your order! #podcast #baconismypassion #strangerhoodtv #youtubechannel #youtubepodcast #cravingstrange #somethingheavy #betterthanradio #baconismypodcast #poweredbypoddecks ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Good Noise Podcast discuss Miss May I, The Callous Daoboys, Yungblud, Anarbor, Oceans Ate Alaska, and others. Good Noise Podcast Socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/good_noise_cast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodnoisepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodnoisepod Discord: https://discord.gg/nDAQKwT YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFHKPdUxxe1MaGNWoFtjoJA Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04IMtdIrCIvbIr7g6ttZHi All other streaming platforms: http://hyperurl.co/GoodNoisePodcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/goodnoisepodcast Bandcamp: https://goodnoiserecords.bandcamp.com/

Welcome to an all-new Films for the Void, Bonus Episode #15! In this episode, Landon interviews Tori Kravitz - a Florida-based multi-media content creator, publicist, and journalist who's been making a name for herself since 2010, when she launched Rock Forever Magazine. For the next six years, she would go on to have over 300 interviews and amass over 37K subscribers. More likely than not, however, you'll probably recognize her as the Monster Energy pit reporter for the Vans Warped Tour from 2015 to 2018, travelling nationally, creating daily blogs highlighting the tour, and interviewing the bands that comprised it. Now, she's working as publicity manager for Whoa, That's Fresh! Marketing and Publicity, where she represents bands like MxPx, Anarbor, Rivals, and many more. Landon and Tori chat about starting a music magazine in high school, interviewing her favorite bands, the reaction to landing four consecutive slots on the Vans Warped Tour, and making the transition into music marketing - all on the latest episode of Films for the Void!TIME STAMPS00:00:16 Interview w/ Tori Kravitz00:39:47 Round Robin Movie Discussion

Good Noise Podcast discuss MOTHICA, Imagine Dragons, Camp Trash, Anarbor, Pale Waves, Anberlin, and others. Good Noise Podcast Socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/good_noise_cast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodnoisepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodnoisepod Discord: https://discord.gg/nDAQKwT YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFHKPdUxxe1MaGNWoFtjoJA Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04IMtdIrCIvbIr7g6ttZHi All other streaming platforms: http://hyperurl.co/GoodNoisePodcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/goodnoisepodcast Bandcamp: https://goodnoiserecords.bandcamp.com/

We were very fortunate to have Anarbor on the podcast to talk about their new album, "Love & Drugs". Enjoy! Anarbor Socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/Anarbor Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anarbor/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Anarbor/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUDAQXvPMSaLx_qT2-aQaPw Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/anarbor/275736140 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/09J4zbHHwNNlN2tfgJIg21 Good Noise Podcast Socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/good_noise_cast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodnoisepodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodnoisepod Discord: https://discord.gg/nDAQKwT YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFHKPdUxxe1MaGNWoFtjoJA Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/04IMtdIrCIvbIr7g6ttZHi All other streaming platforms: http://hyperurl.co/GoodNoisePodcast Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/goodnoisepodcast Bandcamp: https://goodnoiserecords.bandcamp.com/

This week I had the pleasure of speaking with Slade Echeverria and Danny Stravers of the genre flipping band ANARBOR. As Slade goes on to tell us, the band started fast, signing to Hopeless Records early in the bands formation. With that came  some great opportunities to perform on Warped Tour and having their music featured on a number of T.V. shows and networks. Slade could not thank the label enough for all they did for them, but with time comes change. As a band matures, so do the members of a band and people look to do other things. That was just a bump in the road for ANARBOR,  Slade would continue to write and find people like Danny to create new sounds with. I get a lot of pleasure listening to bands try new things and when it works it's exhilarating. ANARBOR has done just that for me, they grew not only in life but sonically as well. Join Danny, Slade and I as we search for that “Letter In A Suitcase” from the “Gypsy Woman” on the “Carefree Highway.”

This week's show features ATRON with music from Anarbor, Mister Green, Infinite Sonic, The Things We Were, Juliana Madrid, Soda Cracker Jesus, The Orphan The Poet, Homeschool, Don't Believe in Ghosts, Momma, Viagra Boys & Pulse Park! Hosted by Aaron Zytle. 04/26/2022

New York's Parader sits down to chat with us about their fresh, new EP "Something the Dreamers Dream," working with Yellowcard's Ben Harper, being an Elder Emo and more.Check out Parader:Listen, Insta, FB______ESC'S BANGERZ ONLY POTW: Highwind, Anarbor, hey, ily!We love showcasing new music and we're doing so every week during our podcast episodes. This week we feature friends of the pod Anarbor channeling indie-pop vibes with "Letter in a Suitcase," hey, ily! drops their new single "Psychokinetic Love Song," and another friend of the pod Highwind + L. St. Germain are waiting on a call with their new single "Hung Up."Check out these & other bangers on our weekly Spotify playlist.______ACTION/ADVENTURE & ESC'S OFFICIAL AFTERPARTYStoked to be joining the homies to keep the party rockin' all night! We'll be DJing at downstairs SubT after their anniversary show of "Pulling Focus" wraps up. Make sure you snag a ticket to see not only Action/Adventure but also friends of the pod Wolf Rd., Rare Candy & more to get you warmed up cause the entry to the set is FREE with your show ticket purchase. We'll see ya in the late night.---OKCool Spicy TakesWe're back club! Our friends OKCool hop on to go head to head to see who has the spiciest takes. Watch the video over on YouTube! As always, thank you to our sponsor Soothsayer Hot Sauce.-----EMO SOCIAL MERCH SALEIt's prime layering season, club! So make sure you get some discounted Sun's Out, Stay Inside & Emo Social Nu-Metal tanks in our store!Thanks to our designer Joey Resko for our designs.Join the club!Twitch: https://emosocialclub.tvDiscord: https://emosocial.club/discordTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@xemosocialclubxTwitter: https://emosocial.club/twitterInstagram: https://emosocial.club/instagramYoutube: https://emosocial.club/youtubeFacebook: https://emosocial.club/facebook  Follow us!Brian: @spookypants1Lizzie: @bordenbathory

Slade is a rad dad to a son and step-daughter, and he stops by to chat parenting and Anarbor's new singles: Drugs and Letter in a Suitcase.

We had the pleasure of interviewing Anarbor over Zoom video! Phoenix-based Anarbor recently released their latest single “Drugs.” Drawing the parallel connection between romance and drugs, frontman Slade Echeverria and guitarist Danny Stravers delve into the excitement of a newfound relationship, alongside its extreme highs and lows, and the mistakes that are left to learn. Set to retro guitar riffs and an energetic indie-pop beat. The single is accompanied by a music video featuring Echeverria and Stravers in an MTV-inspired set. Nestled with TV static and cartoon characters dancing along with the band, the “Drugs” visual will take you back to the music video glory days of the early ‘90s. ABOUT ANARBOR: Phoenix-based alternative rock band Anarbor was formed in 2003 while the members were still in junior high school. After signing with Hopeless Records in 2008, Anarbor found mainstream success providing theme songs for Cartoon Network's “Scooby Doo! The Mystery Begins,” ESPN's SportsCenter, Good Day L.A. and MLB Network Countdown. Along with relentless touring in the United States, Anarbor has appeared in Japan, United Kingdom, Canada and Australia. While partnering with Hopeless Records, Anarbor released two EPs and two full-length studio albums. More recently, Anarbor independently released their eponymous third studio album titled Anarbor in June of 2016 and an EP. in 2018 titled The EP. Both pieces of work were self-funded and produced by long-time collaborator Matt Keller (Lydia, The Maine, The Summer Set, Katastro). Anarbor signed to OneRPM in 2020 and released the Tangerine EP. Currently, the members are gearing up to release their fourth full-length studio album in 2022. Anarbor is composed of lead vocalist and bassist Slade Echeverria and guitarist Danny Stravers. We want to hear from you! Please email Tera@BringinitBackwards.com. www.BringinitBackwards.com #podcast #interview #bringinbackpod #ANARBOR #Drugs #NewMusic #zoom Listen & Subscribe to BiB https://www.bringinitbackwards.com/follow/ Follow our podcast on Instagram and Twitter! https://www.facebook.com/groups/bringinbackpod

You're no longer 18 but your fave bands are still in action, like our new friends in Anarbor. We chat with Slade and Danny about their new single "Drugs," the Jersey Shore cast, but mainly Pauly D, having their music on Scooby Doo! and more.Check out Anarbor:Twitter, Insta, TikTok, Listen______ESC'S BANGERZ ONLY POTW: PENNY BORED, GET TUFF & CLEVELAND AVENUEWe love showcasing new music and we're doing so every week during our podcast episodes. This week we feature Penny Bored's new single "Conversations," Get Tuff's steal your boo EP "tuff luv. vol. 1," and Cleveland Avenue's catchy pop-punk tune "Lucy."Check out these & other bangers on our weekly Spotify playlist.---NEW EMO SOCIAL MEMBERSHIPAs we continue to grow at the club, the next step is to open up something similar to a Patreon, but through Squarespace. This is a new avenue to give exclusive content to our community that you've been asking for, as well as other niche items that don't always make the final cut in the editing room.You can sign up here & you'll get all access to exclusive, downloadable content from us at the Emo Social Club.-----EMO SOCIAL MERCH SALEIt's prime layering season, club! So make sure you get some discounted Sun's Out, Stay Inside & Emo Social Nu-Metal tanks in our store!Thanks to our designer Joey Resko for our designs.Join the club!Twitch: https://emosocialclub.tvDiscord: https://emosocial.club/discordTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@xemosocialclubxTwitter: https://emosocial.club/twitterInstagram: https://emosocial.club/instagramYoutube: https://emosocial.club/youtubeFacebook: https://emosocial.club/facebook  Follow us!Brian: @spookypants1Lizzie: @bordenbathory

Today we have a special guest on the podcast! Stravs little brother Danny Stravers. Danny is a musician/songwriter. He plays guitar in the band Anarbor. You can find him at the links below: Instagram - @Anarbor Instagram - @dstrav

Slade (lead vocalist and bassist) and Danny (guitarist) are from the American rock band Anarbor. We go into what it was like going on tour, and lessons learned both being on Hopeless Records and self-releasing their music. Also we discuss how to move forward as the band has gone through many changes and tragedies over 17 years. Instagram: @anarbor Facebook: facebook.com/Anarbor Follow 80/20 Records: Instagram: @8020records Facebook: facebook.com/8020records www.8020records.com

Gregg's Guide to New Music: Episode 295 Gregg highly recommends checking out, and supporting the following bands and musicians. Links to find more from them, and purchase their music are posted below. The Pigeon Detectives – https://www.thepigeondetectives.com/ facebook.com/thepigeondetectives Raven Black – https://www.ravensrejects.com/ facebook.com/ravenblackband Anarbor – https://www.anarborhq.com/ facebook.com/Anarbor Mammoth WVH – https://www.mammothwvh.com/ facebook.com/MammothWVH Summer Cannibals – http://www.summercannibals.com/ facebook.com/SummerCannibals The Two Tens – https://www.thetwotens.com/ facebook.com/thetwotens The Manges – https://www.manges.it/ facebook.com/themanges Goldfinger – https://www.goldfingermusic.com/ facebook.com/goldfingermusic Stupid Flanders – http://www.stupid-flanders.com/ facebook.com/stupidflandersband Less Than Jake – https://lessthanjake.com/ facebook.com/lessthanjake

Gregg’s Guide to New Music: Episode 295 Gregg highly recommends checking out, and supporting the following bands and musicians. Links to find more from them, and purchase their music are posted below. The Pigeon Detectives – https://www.thepigeondetectives.com/ facebook.com/thepigeondetectives Raven Black – https://www.ravensrejects.com/ facebook.com/ravenblackband Anarbor – https://www.anarborhq.com/ facebook.com/Anarbor Mammoth WVH – https://www.mammothwvh.com/ facebook.com/MammothWVH Summer Cannibals – http://www.summercannibals.com/ facebook.com/SummerCannibals The Two Tens – https://www.thetwotens.com/ facebook.com/thetwotens The Manges – https://www.manges.it/ facebook.com/themanges Goldfinger – https://www.goldfingermusic.com/ facebook.com/goldfingermusic Stupid Flanders – http://www.stupid-flanders.com/ facebook.com/stupidflandersband Less Than Jake – https://lessthanjake.com/ facebook.com/lessthanjake

Gregg’s Guide to New Music: Episode 295 Gregg highly recommends checking out, and supporting the following bands and musicians. Links to find more from them, and purchase their music are posted below. The Pigeon Detectives – https://www.thepigeondetectives.com/ facebook.com/thepigeondetectives Raven Black – https://www.ravensrejects.com/ facebook.com/ravenblackband Anarbor – https://www.anarborhq.com/ facebook.com/Anarbor Mammoth WVH – https://www.mammothwvh.com/ facebook.com/MammothWVH Summer Cannibals – http://www.summercannibals.com/ facebook.com/SummerCannibals The Two Tens – https://www.thetwotens.com/ facebook.com/thetwotens The Manges – https://www.manges.it/ facebook.com/themanges Goldfinger – https://www.goldfingermusic.com/ facebook.com/goldfingermusic Stupid Flanders – http://www.stupid-flanders.com/ facebook.com/stupidflandersband Less Than Jake – https://lessthanjake.com/ facebook.com/lessthanjake

On this episode of the CLP we discuss our top fears and why they give us anxiety. We also discuss the Emmys and the impact of black actors in Hollywood and of course sports talk. Album review for "Free Your Mind" by Anarbor, album of the week is "Da Real Thing" by Sizzla

In this week's episode, Aidan dislikes music videos, Will gets triggered, Joe "has a speckle of a hint" and Denver adds to his resume of noises. Verdict Aidan - 5.5 Who Cares? Can't Help It Josie Least - Pushaway Denver - 7.5 Freaking out! Who Cares? Dopamine Least - Already Dead Joe - 7.5 Josie Can't Help It Already Dead Least - Through the Night Will - 5 Can't Help It Josie Paint This Town Least - Dopamine Final Score - 25.5

Welcome to the one and only IT in the D show. This is episode three 55, happy Canada day happy 4th of July. Um, on behalf of all of us, we hope that a multi Claus brought you your syrup into quality using the States. We hope that kid rock brought you your fireworks and Bush light, 30 packs. Um, we are broadcasting live from our homes, actually have all of our fingers. Um, this is Bob, the sales guy that is David geek. Randy, I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters.       Oh, by the way, breaking news, uh, Trey Parker is still going to be the voice of mr. Hankey, even though he is not a piece of shit. Yeah. I mean, it depends on who you ask, I guess, Find us online it in the D dot comma. Do us a favor, give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere or I guess our soul. Uh, yeah. And so, you know, again, uh, just in case you’ve missed the last couple episodes, we’ve decided we’re holding off until August for any of our events. I actually just killed off the, uh, the, the one for July for Anarbor. Uh, and so yeah, you know, when things get nice and safe and mellowed out again, uh, we’ll, we’ll be more than happy to get everybody back together. Cause God knows we miss people. Um, but yeah, such is life. It is what it is. We’re trying to stay safe. I looked at my calendar for this week, just from Google and Friday was supposed to be the ministry came at DM concert and I’m like, Hey, good. It got postponed and good. Cause I’m, can’t walk still. So a double good. Um, but yeah, April next year. But then, uh, I found Judas priest. It’s kind of weird. Uh, went on sale for the Fox Lasar um, like in September. So I’m like, cool. I like a good heavy metal show. Um, tickets are like a hundred bucks. So I’m like, okay. You know, for like early, like, and there’s nothing sold. Like if you go to Ticketmaster right now, you can get like fifth row seats, um, all the way around the box, Dude. Well, I mean that that’s too early. I like, I’m sorry. That’s that’s what three months from now? Ish. Wait. No. Yeah, no two months from now. Um, and so, I mean, looking at it, looking at what’s going through with, um, you know, Miami just shut down all their bars, restaurants, beaches, gyms, yada, yada, you got Arizona in the midst of all this guy, did it like it’s no, this isn’t going to be cleaned up in two months at all. Who knows? That’s what I like. Yeah. Cause I’m thinking like, Hey, I want to buy the tickets. Nope, no sight, no Bob science knows. It’s not going to know. Let’s be clear. Science knows it’s not going to be done. Well, you know, you know, you don’t, you don’t never know it could be a vaccine come out. It could just go away. Who knows, or it could be, or a, you know, it could be a world mass hysteria for the next three months. And you know, more people turn into HOA presidents, you know, This is true. Well, and so I do, I love the meme. That’s been floating around that said, uh, if nothing else, 2020 has proven to me that time travel is real because they keep going back and trying to fix things. But then they just wind up making it worse, like the premise of every time travel movie ever known to mankind. And so, you know, that’s why the murder Hornets, uh, disappeared. Uh, but now we have the bubonic. Plague is back in China. Is that B O O B or No? It’d be, you know, there, there are no boobs on people’s necks. It, it is, it is bubonic, No plague. And I’m like, Ooh, is that good? No, it’s no, it’s not your girl standing behind you while you’re sitting down. It’s that’s not, that’s not what this is. Damn it, There are plenty of cases of bubonic plague in the American Southwest over years. It’s dry and true. A so it’s not an unusual thing. Yeah. But Hey, uh, real quick, America’s uh, getting ready big, get back to work with the win, the new economy. You need to take advantage of every advantage to succeed. 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Cause all you sent across was upload on Amazon prime and I’m like, did Amazon just enable an upload feature where I can put my shit up there. It’s a show and here’s the pitch meeting and I’ll get into my next hotness after this. Um, so the pitch meeting is okay, so it’s a total recall, but you’re dead and that’s the show. So it’s the black mirror episode of San Jacinto. So here’s the We’re sending you to pero, sorry, I don’t remember that one, but here’s the, um, the premise. So like right before you die, you’re basically they take your consciousness. Basically they take your head and then they upload it into like a second city. You choose like, Hey, I want to be in this world. I want to be in that world. I want to do this. I want to be in Vegas. I want to be on the, on the Lake. And then there’s other people. The funny thing is they kind of trash on microtransactions, which is the funniest part of the show. Like while the guys walking in the hotel, like the guy who like, would you like some gum from truly is, it’s a delicious treat. And then there’s like, he grabs one and it charges 99 cents to his ex wife or ex-girlfriend because it’s owned by Verizon. They call it horizon. So it’s horizon presents. And so like the guy’s dead, but you can like call the living. So it’s got this weird, uh, you know, you can like, like as long as she’s paying the bill, like your, your, your conscience is living through this avatar. So then there’s like the tech support people are called angels. And so like, they can make you whatever. So like she was messing with the guy who was being a jerk. So she like, he flipped her off. So she raised his middle finger, you know what I mean? Like, so like you can make people, they can make people look however they want to look, if that makes sense. Gotcha. Um, I don’t know if it’s funny or not, but it was definitely worth it. I enjoyed all like the technology jokes and like the, the kind of trashing and microtransactions that they made it funny to me. My dad probably would think it’s stupid. I’ll give it a watch. Sounds interesting. But I just finished, you know, burning through a couple of shows. So yeah. Why not? Well, the funniest part, I guess the funniest part was the people that couldn’t afford, like to be in the good land they’re in like the two gig capital land, which is like prison, pretty much prison. And if you, if you like use up too much energy, you use up all your gigs. You basically just freeze until the, it started the next month. And then you get your two gig back. Um, so like, like don’t you can’t like you used up a gig and a half. You can’t move now for the next three weeks. Anyway. It’s like I said, it’s, it’s a, I thought it was great. Um, so speaking, speaking of pitch meetings, that’s the other one that was that I caught onto it’s they’ve been going on for a couple of years. I don’t know how I just missed it, but it’s that it’s a guy talking to himself pitching movies. And if you saw like, like I saw episode seven, eight, nine, he did, he did all the star Wars. You have any does like the joker. So he’s like, so you’re telling me as taxi driver and he’s like, yeah, reboots are hot. So like, they go back and, but man, I got down a wormhole with pitch meetings. They had, he has them for like, there’s like a hundred of them literally. So you can do like really any movie you’ve ever watched in the last avatar, like any destroys, any movie you liked or you thought it was like, destroys him, like the plot hole, you know what I mean? Like, like, wait a minute. What about this part where he did that? Like, we don’t forget about that. You know, like It’s a continuity issue. We’ll just, we’ll we’ll skip over it. They’ll never notice it. What about at the beginning when they said, you know, yeah. Was just like, no, no, no, that that’s not important. Right. I finished burning through, um, uh, the Mandalorian documentary, uh, uh, and I forgot what it was called. Um, but it’s the eight part documentary about the Mandalorian and like, and they talked about like the effects, both special and practical. Um, and one of the things they talked about was, and this is how petty star Wars fans are. Um, which another good story segue coming up momentarily. Uh, but like apparently they caught a lot of crap at Lucasfilm and ILM because there’s like one scene that you can’t even see in real time where they just didn’t put Soboba in his racer in episode one, um, for like a second. Cause it was like a pan shot. And apparently though, Oh my God, we’ve got so much, you know, fan hate mail. And yet I’m like, y’all are y’all are petty. Which, which brings me to, they are not erasing episode nine, Bob. They’re not, it’s not gonna happen. Yeah. There’s there’s no, that was from butthurt fan boy news.com and that it ain’t happening Well, it’s, it’s a, it’s a rumor, um, by the future ruler of earth, the doom cock overlord, DVD, YouTube channel. Right. So you’re telling me that That’s not legit. Yeah. That’s bullshit. He’s not star Wars deep throat. No, he’s not. He’s really not The thing that pisses me off. Did we talk about, um, scene 38 revisited? Did we talk about this already? Um, there’s a YouTube video where a guy or a team of people read did scene 38 of episode four, which is basically where obiwan gets killed. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we’ve, yeah. We’ve talked about that. Yeah. Yeah. And they turned it into this whole like, like the chorus, like the dark blue music and they actually make a, uh, uh, Obi wan Kenobi not suck as with a lightsaber. Um, but yeah, if you haven’t checked that out, definitely look, I think it’s yeah. 38 and 36 seem to revisit it. Yeah. Then there was the other fan cut of the ending of a riser Skywalker, um, where like basically, uh, uh, antiquing Luke Yoda, uh, I think it’s quite gone, um, are all, uh, force goes behind Ray as she’s fighting Palpatine. That was, that was pretty intense. And that was good. Yeah. That was actually pretty sweet. Well, my favorite, well, the, one of the best one was when they redid the dialogue in episode four, when Vader first gets on the ship and he’s like run a diplomatic mission, whatever. And he’s like, no, I just saw you leave my ship from, With the secret plans with them. Yeah. Yeah. I just want, and he’s like, I just saw that happen Again. Continuity we’ll yeah. We’ll fix it in post. That’ll be fine. Yes, exactly. But it actually makes sense now with the new dialogue, but go figure, But now was, I mean, it it’s, it is. I mean, and I do I get it, there were a lot of butthurt fan boys, um, about the final trilogy, but I mean, it is what it is, you know? And that’s honestly, that was one of the things that I thought was really good about that Mandalorian documentary is dude, Filoni hammered the point home over and over and over again without basically shaking his finger at the screen, but still shaking his finger at the screen saying it’s for kids. Like it’s like star Wars has always been about it’s it’s movies for kids. That’s, that’s what it’s about. And so if you, as an adult, don’t like it, that’s fine. And you know, and I know, I know I’ve said it on the, on the, you know, on the show before where like I always go, you know, so like the guys, we all go opening night, Thursday night at 80 out and we’re there. And then I take the kids either Saturday or Sunday and I always hold off judgment until I’ve seen it with them because like our take on it is almost always completely different from their take It’s an a D it’s a different experience. Well, yeah, so, I mean like, like rogue squadron, like we all thought, you know, that was one of the net rogue squadron. Um, yeah, no, it looks right. Uh, you know, we all thought that was the rogue one. We all thought that was like, you know, one of the best things ever, whereas like, they were confused from the get go because it didn’t have the stereotypical star Wars opening. And it was more of a, you know, a war movie, like black Hawk down and that kind of stuff. So, yeah. Well dude, it’s like watching Godzilla as a 12 year old then as a 40 year old going, God damn it. I can see the lines on Gordon, Right? Yeah. I could see. Yeah. Clearly they’re holding them up with cables is what it is. Enjoy the movie, by the way. I never, I don’t celebrate this enough, but I think I start, I need to, um, July 1st was also Bobby Day. Did you, did you read about this or? Oh, I D I read about it every year. He’s a, so if you don’t know who he is, I got his baseball cards. He played for the Mets. He played for the pirates. It was a pretty good ball player. Um, he’s 57 years old right now. And on July 1st, He hasn’t played in what, 10 years? 10 years he hasn’t played. Um, I’m trying to look it up right now. Um, I think in round two, is it 2000 that he hasn’t, but it was, um, you know, when you played last, played for the Mets in 99 and last played in the majors in 2001. Um, but he’s going to be paid through 2035 when he he’ll be 72 years. And he gets like 1.7 million a year, 1.19, 3 million from the Mets, um, every July 1st from yeah. Till, um, cause they had to prorate his, his, his salary structure and he signed that deal. Good. Good for him for getting that back a loaded contract? Well, yeah, I mean, I guess like measures are signed when that’s going to pay them through 20, 28. Oh dude. Zetterberg did Datsyuk did a lot of the wings did when they were trying to deal with salary cap issues and all that shit. Well, I remember like a one grind boss or assigned to a Seahawks deal. This was what, 91. And it was like 10 years, $10 million. And we’re like, Oh my God, that guy’s brilliant. And uh, you know, he only played a year and a half, so yeah, he was brilliant, but you know, for the most part, um, but yeah, what else, what else is going on now that, uh, also There were two short, those are the two things, you know, one, I mean, one of the reasons we’re not having events, uh, is all the bars just shut down again or at least they were supposed to be. Um, but then, you know, I, and this is like I said, this is the part that confuses me is it’s supposed to be, if you have over 70% of your revenue is alcohol-based know, you’re supposed to be shut down and watching the mental gymnastics happen on my Facebook wall from places that I’ve been to. And I’ve never seen themselves so much as a mozzarella stick or a chicken finger the entire time, I’m there saying, Oh, they’ve got enough food sales to justify staying open, or everybody will be outside nudge, nudge, wink, wink. Um, I just, I Crack a better mate, isn’t it? Doesn’t, isn’t 30 bucks. Exactly. And so dude, like I just, I don’t get it. And, and I mean, I do, and this was part of the conversation I got into. I truly do. I undo, you know, we’ve, we’ve got the studios that have been sitting closed for, you know, coming up on four months now. Um, it’s, it’s, it’s a real concern. It’s a real issue. It’s a, it’s a real problem. And I get it, but we are not doing ourselves any favors by trying to find a loophole in this shit. We’re not like it’s just gonna keep getting worse. Please reference Miami, Arizona, everywhere else. That’s going through a huge spike right now. You know, you watch all the, you know, the 4th of July videos that came out from, you know, the lakes in Michigan that were like just nuts to butts and thousands of people and all that. We’re just, I give, yeah, It’s just, you know, they’re rolling the dice on, uh, you know, paying the mortgage versus, uh, you know, being another student. Like I said, I, I, I absolutely, and it’s not that I’m uncaring. It’s not that I wasn’t feeling. It’s not that I don’t understand it. Cause you know, I would go through the same shit, you know, but it’s, you know, yeah. I just, it’s one of those things that I’m just, I’m not, I’m not a fan of, of places that are trying to, you know, find the loopholes to keep themselves open when, when they know damn well and good, they really should be shut down. Well, it didn’t you go to one of those like last week. So that was two weeks ago before they got shut down again. Um, and the two places I went to, so like I said, you know, temple had plexiglass bar top to ceiling and everybody was totally locked away and they have like a little cutout that they could their drinks through in that kind of stuff. You know? And when we talked to Augie, you know, last week from whiskey where, you know, they’ve got the tea, they’ve got the high top tables pushed up against the bar. So like, you know, you’ve got to keep your distance away from the bartender. And, and they were being, you know, even then they were being really strict about masks and that kind of stuff. So, I mean, it’s either one of those two looked remotely excited about having to be there. No, no. And it’s, you know, but like, but so like whiskey does have, and honestly, and this is the other part that, and again, I get it and I feel bad for them. Like, you know, whiskey. Yep. They’ve got a back patio and temple yet. They’ve got a back patio. Cause that was the other way to stay open. Um, was if you could keep everybody outside. Um, but dude, who wants to be outside drinking when it’s 90 effing degrees outside, like that’s, you’re talking to a guy that, um, on the July 1st, his AC went out. So this is a, and it just fired back up three hours ago. Oh dude, what the hell happened? Uh, we had, uh, contractors over the house, uh, looking at, um, siting on the side of the house that needs to replace because of the AC, write it out some boards. Okay. And what they do, they, they trip a switch, they tripped the switch. And as soon as they left, it went out. I go, I bet you, they did something, but I it’s a handyman, you know what I mean? So we had to call DTE cause we bought or whatever, their insurance and they had to wait for them to come out. Soon. He goes to the side of the house. I feel cold air I’m like you son of a bitch. Oh yeah. So for future reference, those keeping score at home, there is there’s literally almost every air conditioning unit has a trip switch, um, on like on it or near it. Um, that’s designed, it’s almost like a GFI, like it’s, it’s designed to blow in case, um, the units overheating or that kind of stuff. Cause I’ve had that happen before. Um, where, and it’s literally as simple as flip switch and it comes back on, see, now my idea for temple bar and for whiskey in the jar, I think they need to bring back an old nineties tradition. Um, if you’ve ever been to Florida Daytona, whatever, and it was a, basically a, a tide soap party, their, their phone parties let’s let’s let’s get the terminology. Correct. They were always called foam parties. They called them foam parties, but it was so, um, if you ever did a senior prank in high school and a dump box to tied into the fountain, it’s pretty much the same effect. Oh yeah. They would dump the, the soap and they were always, you know, super gropey, rapey, terrible events. Let’s be honest. I’m not saying they weren’t, but I mean It out, I guess. Yeah. Like, you know, not getting the Rona, but you get, you know, you can go get a drink and it’s going to taste a little, little soapy, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Cause that shit got everywhere. Cause it would like, you know, the fans would catch it and it would blow up, but it would wind up in drinks and all that crap. Randy, I’ve never been to one. I’ve never been to one now. Oh, I, I, I absolutely thought they were disgusting. They’re terrible. They’re there, there was nothing, there, there was nothing good about them. But as a resort in Mexico, we went that had them and I’m like, let’s, let’s debate on where we’re going to go. Cause it’s like between the nice place or the party place. And then I saw a video of it and it was so contrived and forced and like ill and I’m like, yeah, no, that was an easy choice to have to go to that place. Well, I mean, so if only a, I mean, I feel like if Playhouse strip club or Playhouse club or whatever the hell it’s called, um, maybe if they would have been doing, uh, you know, foam parties with their dancers, uh, they wouldn’t be having an outbreak of COVID from there. That’s soy. Hey, by the way, why? Cause I had it all set up, speaking of boobs on a plague and you tell that story, I ruined your segue. Sorry. Um, but yeah. So what it was it a it’s yeah. Playhouse and I think checkers, uh, they said if you’ve been at either location in Romulus, um, self quarantine, go get yourself checked yet. Eddie yada uh, I don’t know. I feel like, you know, if you leave a strip club, probably go get yourself checked. Um, but yeah, But I mean, if you look at the picture from channel seven article like the Playhouse, you know, the Google street view, it looks like a clean, classy, Very fine. Upstanding establishment. Yeah. It doesn’t look like a converted old mom and pop diner at all. Uh, yeah, no. Yeah. It’s got the Valley overhead. Oh yeah. It’s it’s the it’s the Ritz is what it is. Let’s be clear, Right? Oh yeah, absolutely. Um, I’ll go ahead. No, I was going to say so, but then the other, you know, the other bar topic is, uh, so I guess BFD is undergoing, like we we’ve had events at clubhouse BFD before Dude, don’t talk to me. Sorry. I know that was one of your fans. If you follow the story, BFD was a really cool place that was unemployed 89 and crooks in Rochester Hills. Um, it’s been there for probably 10 years and it was rated one of the top 50 beer bars in the U S and I was lucky enough to live a mile from it. And I was also lucky enough. Uh, me and Joe foodie, uh, Joe Hakim are the tag team champions of drinking the millions of beer there. So I got a big wrestling belt and uh, you know, I was really good friends with Jason manager who since started his own place and we all knew it was owned by Griffin claw. Oh yeah. And we were praying for the day that it wouldn’t switch to a Griffin claw bar and sure shit, they go on social media and change it to Griffin claw clubhouse, and down goes another one of the great, so here was the Not carrying anybody else’s beer anymore. Nope. That was the beauty of it. They had like 80 things on tap. The bartenders knew everything, Dude. So well-educated Holy crap. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone was assistant Rhone and you know, sorry, whatever you call it, Cicerones where they, you know, if you’re Italian. Um, but the, you know, now the place is like, and you just read the comments and they’re, whoever’s managing their social media. Wasn’t doing them any favors. They were just like, you know, like, you’ll be BLB here. You’ll be back. Or like, they’re kind of playing like, you know, how you’re you can’t miss this place. Like, yeah. I kind of can like, here’s thing where I live, Griffin claw in Birmingham is 15, 20 minutes away. Yep. You don’t need this here. Um, you know, they changed all the signs and it’s like, like not saying I’m angry, but it’s like, whatever, we’ll find another place. Yeah. You already had that in Birmingham. Why do you need to have that there? Why not let it? I mean, I can’t imagine. I mean, granted, I mean, I know a business across the board is, is nasty. I mean maybe, you know, maybe they were having issues with distributors. Cause I mean, they did, they carried a lot of did that place, had a huge variety and backstock, it was 40 taps or something like that. Or 80 taps, 40 bottles. Brilliant. But then their fridges were stocked with Kansas shit and it was so good. The one thing I always said that were brilliant was they have an analytic analytics on 2 million pints of beer sold. Right. So now they can look and say, and they could tell how fast and what they put on and what styles and what works. So now as a brewery, like I can say, Hey, it’s kind of like the Coke machine at five guys. Yup. Like Coke uses that analytical data. They need to make like vanilla orange. And they’ll like saying, Hey, we’re the movie theaters. Yeah. Yeah. You we’re selling a shit ton of that one let’s can it? Yeah. Why aren’t we making that? Yeah. Right. So like Griffin call, I had all this analytical data to make their own beer and now they just completely just shit on all the relationships and they just lost all that data. Um, I guess they don’t care anymore because they’ve, you know, sold a couple million pints of beer there and whatever they got their data. Yeah. It is what it is. So I mean, I guess, yeah. Boo. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so I, I did like this one, um, and I think it’s gonna be interesting cause I mean, I do, I know a lot of people that are job hunting and I, and I think the big, and this is very accurate. I think the big question that you really should be prepared for, if you start interviewing for a gig, whether it’s now a year from now or whatever, is what’d you learn during the quarantine? Like what, what did you do? What did you learn? What did you do to grow your skills, that kind of stuff. And we’ve said this a million times, you know, whether it’s the, you know, the 10 commandments of job search, that kind of stuff. Cause we’ve always said, you know, okay, great. If you have a gap on your resume, don’t worry about it. No big deal. You know what other, you know, volunteer work you’re doing, you rewired your home network. You did, you know, this, that, and the other thing, you know, just show that you were growing and improving skills, same kind of thing here. Yeah. That’s one, it’s funny. I’ve had five interviews over the last two working days and I didn’t ask it and I’m kind of mad at myself. I always ask the, you know, the, the behavioral stuff. And then the one question is, you know, what do you do to keep up up to date? You know? But like, yeah, what are you doing during this mess? Like a lot of people like, Oh, I’ve been furloughed for four months. So it’s a it’s, that’s like the quintessential question. Well, what have you been doing? You know, watching upload on Amazon prime, probably isn’t the best answer we always talked about. We dude, we talked about them for years that people had posted on Facebook, like I’ve binge-watched blah, blah, blah. And it’s like, wait, aren’t you unemployed. Do you really want that on your social? Um, shouldn’t it be? Shouldn’t you be looking for a gig right about Now. Yeah. Um, but no, that’s, uh, you know, that’s, it’s a great point. Like, you know, Hey, I spent, you know, 40 hours a week learning whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I learned a new language. I did this idea of eight and shit, even if it’s, Hey, I learned how to cook, you know, just show that you were doing something for the love of God to make yourself better. You know? And I guess just speaking of the quarantine, we didn’t touch on this one, dude. I, and I, every time I think I’ve hit the lowest point that I think society can reach when it comes to surprising me, then something else happens. Like for example, uh, kids in Alabama, uh, are throwing coronavirus parties where everybody pitches in a cover charge at the door. And then, uh, they deliberately invite people that they know are infected. And first person to pop positive gets the pot from the door. That’s not true. They’ll cover their medical expenses. It’s 10 CNN. It’s not true. Oh, shut up. No, like for like, I’ve heard of stupid things, man. I mean, like I get like our kids, Our parents used to do that to us with chicken pox. So it’d be like, it’s not like it’s an unproven methodology, but right. I mean, I mean, I don’t think they took bets on it. Who would get it first or, you know, it wasn’t potentially like chicken pox. It wasn’t potentially life threatening. No, you had zits for a month. And then you went back to school a couple of weeks. Um, yeah. Cause you’re like, I actually, Alabama’s not hit that bad, but like, I dunno, man, like, it’s stupid. Like at this point you gotta have the country like, you know, doing what they need to do and whatever. Then you have the other half of the country like LA, did you see the fireworks in LA? Um, after the governor said, you know, like, Hey no, uh, no fireworks on banning them. Then someone went up on top of the inch, shot the Valley and it looked like the biggest fireworks show you’ve ever seen in your entire lifetime 10. It was just Nice. Did you, uh, did you catch the one out of San Diego all went off at one point, apparently somebody’s wired shit wrong. 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Had to private internet access.com/it and easy to get started, protecting herself. That’s www private internet, xs.com/it and the D for 76% discount. Thank you. So speaking of being proven out in court, uh, what’s the over-under on, uh, Galane Maxwell’s death have we has, has there been one set yet? I already lost. Yeah, I’m lost. And now there’s a, there’s talk of, um, there’s videos. Cause you know, you were talking last week about, um, there’s cameras in every room and there was like, that will creep up. It is New York house. Yep. Apparently she’s got the home videos. I forget what, who, who just released that? I think I was, I always watch YouTube, just random videos. And that was one of them from some news source and I’m like that, um, you know, that one’s going to be a doozy. Um, you know, We should burn them all down. We should get a side bit together. And then I see all this other crap about like Chris Cornell and Anthony Bordain, how they had inroads on this stuff. And that’s why they, and it’s all speculation. Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory. Yeah. This sounds like it almost like, Oh shit, this one’s a little like little reel. It’s a little close to the surface. Yeah. Um, you know what I got to start doing too, by the way, like we haven’t said that one of these stories in probably two years where all those companies came out at once, where you can send people like bag beg index and like all that stuff. Well now some genius capitalist, um, started anonymous potato.com where you can buy, send somebody a potato with, With a phrase or, or, or a face or a picture on it. Yeah. Yeah. You can do a photo full photo, a gift bundle. Um, and you could do it and they actually sell the burrito blanket too, which I totally need. Um, but yeah, that’s, you know, they’ll, they’ll draw those all marker on a potato and send it to you and you know what, I bet you they’ve sold dozens. Like I’m not gonna lie. It wouldn’t surprise me because again, people are bored and need something do so why not? Right. And then you’re going to send me the potato and then I want to put it in my AirFryer with a middle finger to you. And I want to text that back to you because that’s what people do. Um, but yeah, potato that’s a honestly, yeah, Go, go, go get you a potato Or the bag of dicks company still away are there by the way. Oh, I’m sure. I know the, I don’t, I think the, the glitter as a service guy, I believe he sold, uh, yeah, it was. Yeah. Cause it was yeah, the glitter bomb dude. Um, but no. So two, two tech stories real quick. So one, um, cause we’ve talked about this over and over and over again. Uh, basically DPD Detroit police came out and said, yeah, facial technique, facial recognition, software. It’s wrong? About 97% of the time. Oh wait, the one they use. Yeah, Yeah, yeah. They use for project green light. Yeah. Go ahead and let that sink in. Yeah, go ahead. But like, but like Facebook can tag someone. I met like four years ago on some random picture. It’s blurry as shit I go, is this butthole McGee, Hayley. Oh my God. It actually is. I forgot. I knew that. What are they using? What are they? What software? Yeah. Uh, clearly not. Facebook’s quick. It’s a software only. We would not solve 95 to 97% of the crime. Then wife having have it, like, that’s the dumbest thing like, Yeah. Why are we paying for this? And I can say we, cause I pasted the Texas. Yeah. Well, no. I mean, and that’s the city taxes for Detroit. I work in Detroit. Yeah. I mean it’s, it’s not yeah. For the love of God stop And you should bitch Randy, I would I’ll support you. So, and then the other one was that, uh, so again, another frequent topic of conversation, HBO has finally made the groundbreaking announcement that all the other apps are going to go away and, and, and there can be only one and HBO, max will be the Highlander app. Like that’s, that’s one, that’ll be the one app to rule them all. And in the darkness bind them. That’s fine. I said, I remember when I said I had it. Cause I had extensity and then I didn’t have it logged back into my own mobile app. And then I had it again and now I don’t have it. So it can honestly go F itself at this point. Like I, I give no shits about it. Like I got hooked, done. I got my kid. I’ll hook them Looney tunes. And she’s like, Papa does not work. And I go to log in my phone and then it says, you need to pay 1595 a month. And I’m like 1595 a month. You can up stick it at your ass. Um, so used to be what? Three apps there is HBO go. HBO paid for HBO by itself. There was HBO now, which if you no, no, no. HBO. No, no, no. HBO go was the one you got with cable HBO now was the, the one off with Roku and that kind of stuff. And then max. So, So I have Cinemax and HBO and I’m like, screw you like seriously? I’m I’m done. Well, if you have a Xfinity, I don’t think you have, I don’t think you have max anymore. Cause they dropped out. I have Cinemax. I can. I just watched it the other night. Yeah. I ate all, I pared it all down. I just got HBO and cinema. They bring it back. Yeah. Cause I was getting dude. Yeah. Whatever that other dumb service was. Yeah. Make up your mind. It was the hits channel they gave me. Then they took that away and they gave me Cinemax back. Do it. I don’t know what’s going on with that shit anymore. I just whatever’s on TV. I watch it. It’s not, I don’t care. I’m still confused. Why there’s no HBO max app for Roku? Like is there a service where you can basically like build a Roku? Oh no. So honestly it’s so every, every story that I’ve read said, it just comes down to licensing yet. It’s just on a licensing. Like they haven’t figured out the licensing deal with Roku as a platform for the app yet. So they would rather exclude Roku customers and yet, yeah. And yet you had HBO now, but I guess I, so Bob, I guess the part I’m like, I’m confused. I thought HBO max was going to be like HBO, go in that. If you were an HBO subscriber, you got it. That’s what I thought you can log into the max app with your HBO go credential and then, you know, and you don’t get the full content unless you pay for more. Yeah. And I’m not getting this super special secret underground content I’m not getting, which, uh, it’s the Apple pie. I’m not buying the Apple pie for and they got nothing. That’s good. You know, what is good though? Um, did you see, uh, the boys, uh, the new trailer that came out? I did. That looks awesome. Um, it doesn’t matter. I’ve been spending more time on prime lately, so yeah. It’s um, Oh, it’s really good to know, by the way. Um, congratulations to mr. David Hayes and mr. Travis McIntyre. Um, Intel, right. Intel got put up on, uh, uh, Amazon prime. So I got, uh, I got to actually watched it the other day. Um, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a classic Easter beef film of a, of a deranged, uh, doctor gone mad of a, with a rabbit. Um, so yeah, it’s a, Yeah. I actually sat down and watched, um, uh, both Westworld and future world, like the old movie. Um, and I, I forgot for the, cause I think Westworld was 73 and future world was 75. Um, and future world, I believe was the first movie that truly used, um, computer generated imagery in it, uh, overall at all was Westworld. Uh, you know, honestly it, I, it’s funny because if you watch them, cause I mean, I, I probably haven’t seen those in 30 years. Um, and if you watch them, it, they really did a good job tying in the HBO series. It’s literally a continuation. Um, you know, the company name, you know, it’s all the Delos Corp, it’s all this, it’s all that. Um, it’s, you know, and they do, they make, and they make right. There’s a lot of throwback references having just gone back and watched them again. There’s a lot of throwback references, especially with Anthony Hopkins character when he’s hanging out with the older models, um, that are throwbacks to those two movies. Okay. Now I was a, I flipped by it 50 times. I never actually clicked play. I might just, uh, I might just have, do you know how this stuff is in the seventies? I watched a death wish with Charles Bryan. I want to pilot turd. That was, and why was he an action star? Because it was the seventies. It was dude. Why was Starsky and Hutch a thing who Dude Bronson was like some old man with like a 45. He found in a fricking alley. Like he wasn’t some bad-ass like, like he’s still here. He’s looked upon as one of the great bad-ass asses of our time. Watch that movie. It’s a turd. Oh, by the way, I had to share a story. Um, so I’m hungry last night I ordered door dash. Right. Okay. And I see a thing on there for it’s just wings and I’m like, Oh wait Dude, I love, let me just, I gotta stop you for a sec. I love that. You said this story across and with the caveat that you had no idea. We have literally talked about this three times on this show. Go ahead. I don’t remember that being, we absolutely. That’s one of your company. Anyway, I order my wings and then I’m like, where the hell are these just wings? No, it was like eight bucks for this two boxes of it would have been like 30 bucks at beat ups. Right? Like beat ups right now is like, they might as well charge a filet. You get, you get a filet for the same price. They charge for a six piece that I get two boxes. One of the fries, one with chicken, the chicken is delicious, you know? And then I Google it and it’s freaking chilies. And then, cause it’s got the bag and it’s got the logo. It’s got, it looks like a, it looks like a thing. And uh, yeah, I’m gonna order again. Cause it was really good. Um, but like I wouldn’t have cared if it was. Yeah. Cause it was uh, but, but you would have never thought to order from them. If you saw Chile, you probably cruised past Chili’s on your way to find that It was no, because they sponsored it. It’s right up on top. Like I even, uh, like if it was Applebee’s Toby’s like simply wings or whatever that was Applebee’s his neighborhood. Yeah. Oh see, I would have been angry. So it was Applebee’s wings, chilies. I never hated. So like Chili’s I was fine with, I did so and then the other one that I thought was interesting. Uh, so Marvel now owns a predator and alien. So like, does that mean that the alien queen from aliens is now a Disney princess? Alright. So do they own all of it? They had the movie rights already when they bought Fox. Now they own the comments. So yeah, they own it end to end now. Yeah. Oh my God. Now that Wolverine was, well, they already did Wolverine verse predator and that fan fan film, um, which lasted 15 seconds. Right. Cause predator can’t heal himself. Um, you know, I, to be honest, am I one of the few people that actually liked the alien vs predator movies? I was like, I’ve seen it. I didn’t mind, like to me, they were just pure brain candy. Like they were like, yeah, they weren’t like a deep, meaningful film. No, I like, I didn’t understand people that were trying to deconstruct them at all. Like, dude, it’s a stupid film. Just watch the movie and enjoy the movie and, and have fun with things getting ripped apart like that. Randy, it was basically, um, there, it was an Antarctica and the predator, two of them right there, predators were growing the aliens to guide them. And I’m thinking of Promethean To then no, they were growing the aliens to then hunt them and then hog them. Right, right. Right. And then there was the other plot where they were competing against each. Yeah. The dumb part was there’s a slide going down and you would think like, do I go down the slide? And they’re like, yeah, screw it. Let’s go down. Like not knowing if it goes to the core of the earth and you’re going to get fried alive. Yeah. It was yeah. There was like some sort of like, it was a, it was a laser cut hole. Oh yeah. Like I said, it just went down through the Antarctic shelf and they were like at the perfect angle. So like, yeah, let’s go ahead and slide down. This what’s the worst that can possibly happen. Maybe Xenos down there, this random hot like, yeah. I’m sorry. Like, like the new, the newly discovered caves and all that crap that keep popping up on my feet every week or to stop. This is not the year to mess with that stuff. Like not in 2022, there was one in London. There was one in, I want to say Kentucky. Uh, there was another one somewhere in Israel and I’m like, would you just like stop looking for shit? Like just, this is not the year to be doing that crap at all. Open them up. No, no, my, um, can I, can I, uh, do you have dibs on this? Cause you sent it over, but I want to my favorite lawsuit. Yeah. Oh my God. So amazing. Go for it. Do you want, okay, so someone’s doing Twitch, you know, everyone knows that Twitch is right where kids stream games and like everyone’s streams nowadays. Um, and I guess, um, there’s a guy that is suing Twitch because women are too sexy and I’m going to go through this and this is not me talking, do not isolate this. I’m reading from like, you know, nowadays. Right. They’re going to clip my words and are gonna go. Bob said, um, okay. So the plaintiff had purchased a Fleshlight previously Just to make sure it let’s see. So this is the a 43 52 Mark. Okay, go ahead. Go. So he purchased a Fleshlight and then they have to, they have, which went largely unused until Twitch. Um, mr. SDVO began using this device while he watches female Twitch streamers and ends up chafing his Wiener every day. You didn’t say Wiener is a penis bikes, like say Wiener. Instead with this device making it extremely painful and constant, which ends up causing redness and mild infections at the tip. Um, it doesn’t say if he’s, uh, which religion he is. So I don’t know what that, um, since the Fleshlight is electrical and also vibrates, you know, the plaintiff therefore often has to use Neosporin on the tip of his way to the cross Guys. This is in a legal document just to be absolutely clear. Yeah. I tried to say like eight 10 to this, but it doesn’t matter. A B to deplete often stays up for hours, staring at the breasts of girls’ streamers gross, which ends up damaging his retina and making his eyes bloodshot. For days, I dropped to nothing to do that. I can’t do his eye drops, do nothing to hide his shame from his parents. And he’s often questioned by people. He comes into contact with why his eyes are so bloodshot and red. It’s got nothing to do with we eat. Yeah, dude. Do you, are you smoking a lot of weed? Nah, just jerking off too late at night. That’s yeah, I can you have bloodshot eyes, mr. Have you been hearing, Are you smoking the pot? You’ve been staring at Toby’s again, which leads to further embarrassment. And lastly, this is real quick. The plaintiff I’m not, how do you want to say this? The short circuit and keyboard. You got to go there. Got it. Once a or on his PC monitor causing a short circuit and small fire within the electrical system was gaming rig it, causing his apartment to blackout too rarely. And so he’s going to suit switch. Yeah. That’s that’s yeah. That’s one of those ones where like I ended up in Supreme court. I did, I’ve said this a budget times. Like there really needs to be a common sense panel where you have like at least one ultra conservative, at least one ultra liberal. And then like at least a couple like middle of the road, normal people like with that. And then if you can’t get a, like an overwhelming majority of those people to say, yes, your lawsuit gets to go forward. Your shit goes nowhere at all. This is going to go for like years and get appealed and they’re going to settle out of court and give them like, God, I hope they don’t because that’s just a terrible precedent to set. Do not do, Do you want a lawsuit or you got to where you admit to put Neosporin on your Wiener? Oh dude. I exactly, exactly. Like I would almost just let it go to court just to get dude, I get all of the court, TV cameras and like local stations and all that shit in there to have him on camera as he’s relaying this story, he’d be like the God of every in cell and in their mom’s basements. Like for eternity, The leader of the dipshits hold up the underpants Exactly. Be like the patron Saint of four Chan. How much, how much pop do you need as a human being? This is water. Are you sure? Yeah. Like, is that like, it’s like 10 pounds when that thing’s full. It’s a half gallon. It’s just Christmas got thick insulation. Hey, Hey Dave, Did you, uh, why have you been microwaving Your books Do, and this has been floating around Facebook for a couple of weeks now and now at grand Rapids library actually had to put out a statement that said for the love of God, stop microwaving books because you’re destroying them. Why? So like people where did this? I never saw like, people like talking, you know, like I subscribed to everything. Right. And I read everyone Do there were people microwaving money and destroying the bills and trying to bring it to the bank Because they thought it would get rid of the Rona yesterday, come out with it. It’s six, six on paper anyway. Cause cause dumb like that. What do you, what do you, what do you like? We’re not talking about like the cream of the crop here. I’m I’m quite sure this is, these are not, these are not people that are like in line for the net for like Nobel prizes or anything like that. That’s Do you know people that wouldn’t get delivery pizza because they thought the Rona was on the box. Like that type of shit. Like, uh, so now the commercials are saying we don’t touch Once it comes out the oven, like the usage Corona, they put their hands on our pizzas. No. Well I think they have to, to cut it. No, actually they don’t. They just put it in the box. The selling point is we don’t touch your pizza once it comes out of there. Like they used to. Yeah. I was happier not knowing that you did before. Thanks Ruth microwave in this house is Easter peeps. Everything else goes in the air fryer now microwave and they’re great. Oh yeah. Yeah. I do. And I still, I haven’t caved on the air fire thing yet. Um, you know what the best is for? Remember when I, when really he’s always talking about fast food going cold and then the fries, you can never do any, anything with the fries, um, cold fries into AirFryer back out are better than regular fries, hot out of the McDonald’s sexually. Yeah. Like it’s, they’re that good? Like that’s right now it’s the only thing that’s like total hotness of the AirFryer and it, my AirFryer is not like it’s, um, toaster oven with inner fire setting. Okay. Um, but I was gonna say Anything you can do with an air fryer, you can do it with a toaster oven. Yeah. This one’s like the mix. Yeah. Um, but Oh my God, like I put cold, like we had the, uh, it’s just wings, the leftover fries. And I told my kid, put them in the AirFryer for like three minutes. I know they are glorious. Like, you know, um, and by the way, um, I always, uh, you know, like my friend, our friend, Rick Viv, he’s a bass geek. I’m kind of amped to, um, in, in episode two fashion, I guess a massive, uh, star has disappeared without a trace. Um, and I don’t know how that happened. So there’s still Because I did it, I read the whole story and I guess they’re still not sure if it’s disappeared or if something is interfering with the view, um, or you know, or what could have happened. Cause they said, you know, it was, it was a pretty bright star. And usually if something like that disappears, it goes supernova, you know, or it compresses down into a black hole and you’ll see the other stars then effected by it. Um, but neither of those from the archives. Right. But yeah. So neither of, neither of those two things have happened. So like, and they are like, they’re trying to figure out still, you know? Yeah. Is it really gone or is there just an, I don’t know, maybe there’s a UFO between us and it that’s blocking the view. Who knows where? Yeah. Oh, what is, um, I don’t know the year I, I would like to know. Um, so it’s 75 million light years away. What, how long does it take for us to see it? Is it like 10 years? Like if it goes out, how long before we know, like, you know what I’m saying? Um, Oh, a long time. Is it more than 10 years? I don’t know. I would assume so. Alright. I mean, it’s not 75 million years otherwise. Um, but yeah, I know there’s a there, I used to know that conversion. I don’t, I don’t remember enough to have my interview. Good thing. You don’t, you know, if you would know that I would get mad more mad at you, then what else, what else has been on TV? What else? Um, Not since I, you know, just talking about cooking, I finally went ahead and uh, I, I don’t use my smoker enough. Um, and so I loaded, uh, loaded that bastard up. Uh, I did a 12 pound brisket. I did four slabs of baby back ribs. Um, and then just for shits and giggles, I decided I was gonna go ahead and do some salmon, dude. I’m not gonna lie. Like, so like the, the neighbor kids, like the, the mom, that’s a couple of houses down. She was like, I don’t know what you did to these ribs, but the kids will never eat ribs when I make them. And like, they all, all went through like, like her four kids probably like killed off a slab by themselves. Um, and she’s like, so if you see me walk over to your house with like a tray of ribs, all the tapping is that I’m going to walk over to your house and then come back and say that you made them. And we’re going to see if that See a big portion of it though, is how the meat you buy. You know what I mean? If you’re in Iraq, if you buy rock like meat, What’s a shots. Uh, dude, I still love shots market there. They’re phenomenal. And uh, yeah, the brisket came out. Perfect. Uh, and then, like I said, dude, let’s like, yeah, that the salmon, I, I was surprised that I think I’m going to have to do that more. Like it’s one of those things where it’s, it’s like, I’m never going to fire up the smoker just to do salmon. Cause it literally, you know, you got all that prep time just to basically smoke it for 20 minutes. Um, but damn, that was good. Like, I, I was, I was pretty impressed with myself. I’m not gonna lie. Say I grew up on smoked fish. Like that was a, you know, we had the house on the, in the water when my uncle had a hut. So like literally just like we, we, and he would bring a bag of it, you know, lived off that stuff. Like literally, you know, you’d get a saltine Cracker and some of that, like, I’ll do it, Keep me, I do it. I keep meaning to take a picture and send it to you. And I keep forgetting the liquor store by my house. Uh that’s at 16 in gross back when you are back up and around, you need to walk in there, they have an entire huge ass shelving rack full of all the crap that you say you can never find anywhere, shut up, like all due to like there’s, there’s like 14, 15 different favorite flavors of that. Slivovitz crap that you keep around a day. But like all of the pair and the ass Bach and the caraway seed and this and that dude, they got, I mean, it’s probably, I think it’s six or seven shelves. Um, and just like, and it’s, and I’m like, I’m like, Oh my God, like this, this entire shelving unit deserves to be in Bob’s basement. Well, the sleeve of it’s is all until you get sloppy and stuff. That’s where, you know, where my folks were born. That’s kind of where we got that tradition from. Um, we actually, my wife brought it out to the pool this week and gave some to the neighbors and they’re like, Oh, it’s pretty good. And I’m like, man, do not be polite to my wife. Do not encourage this behavior. Like, you know, the, the, the, what you call it though, the caraway seed in the raspberry is what I’m looking for. Um, that stuff I got in Chicago, if I could find it, if they had that, I’ll take a look. Yeah, it’s a him beer. H I M B E Uh, pretty sure that’s a brand I saw. So I’ll, I’ll, I’ll take a look. Oh no, that’s that’s raspberry and Germans have that. There’ll be my friend for life. Okay. I’ll take a look. Uh, but actually the only, the only other story that we didn’t get to, because I didn’t, I didn’t write it down was, uh, so for those of you who use Stitcher, um, apparently Stitcher is now being acquired by Sirius XM. So I guess they’re getting serious at no pun intended, uh, about the, uh, the podcast game. I, um, you know, I that’s the thing, are they going to separate it? Like how I say I haven’t checked like subscriber numbers for satellite? Cause here’s the thing like every truck driver in America probably has Sirius XM. Like how many other people pay for it? Like I still do. I do see, I haven’t, since I stopped traveling, you know what I mean? Oh yeah. We’ll do it. Yeah. Well, shit. I mean, it’s not like I’ve been at, I mean the nice, honestly, the nice thing about it is, so now even with just the basic script script that’s subscription, um, like you see like it integrates with your Amazon Alexa, it integrate, you know, the app on your phone. So no matter where you are, like, I can say, you know, Hey Alexa, play, you know, first wave and up comes channel 33. And it’s all the music that I wanted to listen to in my car. Anyway, See now Spotify replaced that for me because all my playlist gotcha. You know, that’s, that’s kinda why. And the only thing was stern and I kind of got old with stern and, uh, and that’s when I was, you know, that’s when I was doing my, um, left radio political left radio for half an hour, then write radio for a half an hour and then I’d get angry and then angrier than angriest. And then, um, yeah, Now that you’ve only got a four minute commute, it’s a little different. Yeah. As of two 2017, they had 32 million subscribers. It it’s a lot. And there’s only like 3 million truck drivers. That’s that’s more than I would’ve thought. Don’t forget. Two years ago they bought Pandora. He did. Wow. Yeah. See, I don’t like Pandora anymore. You tell it like play new order. And like three out of four songs are going to be new order. Like they think they have some, the whatever algorithm is it pick other music that people liked. Like it’s just shit. Like they, I dunno. They don’t know how to mix music anyway. Their algorithm used to be really great. Um, So, so you said that was 2017, Randy. Yeah. So their, uh, end of year, their first quarter for this year, end of year 2019 report, 2020 projection, um, total paid subscriber base, uh, of 34.9 million as of the end of 2019. Okay. Yeah. More than I thought. What do you think about BMW? What they’re doing? Um, apparently they’re doing, um, in car microtransactions. What do they EA now pretty much Like, they’re just going to build all the cars with seat warmers, but you don’t get to use it unless you pay for a three month subscription to unlucky seat warmer. Well, we talked about, remember we talked about that with the, uh, No, go ahead. No, I’m like, would you like to go 65 miles an hour? That’ll be $20 for the next 30, Right. Well, I mean, we talked about that with the, um, that Tesla that the guy bought at auction that, uh, basically Tesla turned off all of the extra features in the car because he wasn’t the original purchaser. And I haven’t looked to see a follow up on that lawsuit. Um, so I mean, it’s, it’s, I don’t know. See, and again, it’s, it’s getting to that weird. Do you really own the things you own like that? Like, that’s the, like, that’s the weird question that keeps coming up with stuff like, you know, with all the stuff about, you know, if you, if you take your car to a neighborhood mechanic, it voids the warranty. Instead of going back to the dealership, if you overclock your computer, it voids the warranty. If you, Mr. Fender of that is a John Deere with the farmer tractors. You’ve been reading about that. So they, they backed down real hard. They backed off on that one because they were like, they were facing like, apparently I think I forgot. I think it was a Kubota started making like huge inroads in like the American farm tractor business. Um, and so John Deere was like, okay, psych, nevermind, please go ahead. Buy bye shit again that, sorry, sorry, green and yellow. No, but it’s going to be, this is going to be a 10 year slow roll. Whereas I, I almost, I want to, if I’m going to be a betting man in 2030, like if you want to do like, would you like extra turbo? That’ll be like, and you’ll have to subscribe. Like, it’ll be like, if they’re toying with this now, where are they going to stop? And they’re going to do a little, Are you evading the police? Would you like to accelerate for the next 30 days? Remember video games was, you just bought the goddamn game. And then they said, okay, if you want, we want to, you got to earn all this shit, but if you want it now, the first one was all the cheat codes. You can slide it into the bottom controller, the name shark. Yes. Um, and then, you know, then you want all the characters for star Wars and you know, there’s going to be this. Yeah. You can play it for the next three months or you can give us 50 bucks. Yeah. And then, so now we’re like, all right, I’ll buy the super secret gold version for $89. Right. Instead of going through all the bullshit and up, and, uh, w how soon before cars do it, you know, Not, not a, not a fan of where that’s going at all, not gonna lie. That’s why I got my 76 in the, in the garage. Exactly. You cannot hack into that. Good luck hacking into that one. But that brings up a question. Like if you buy the car, can you modify the software on it? We can’t, if you’ve got the heater Seats in there, can you turn it on yourself without paying for this Decryption? If you jailbreak your ph

Welcome to the one and only IT in the D show. This is episode three 55, happy Canada day happy 4th of July. Um, on behalf of all of us, we hope that a multi Claus brought you your syrup into quality using the States. We hope that kid rock brought you your fireworks and Bush light, 30 packs. Um, we are broadcasting live from our homes, actually have all of our fingers. Um, this is Bob, the sales guy that is David geek. Randy, I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters.       Oh, by the way, breaking news, uh, Trey Parker is still going to be the voice of mr. Hankey, even though he is not a piece of shit. Yeah. I mean, it depends on who you ask, I guess, Find us online it in the D dot comma. Do us a favor, give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere or I guess our soul. Uh, yeah. And so, you know, again, uh, just in case you've missed the last couple episodes, we've decided we're holding off until August for any of our events. I actually just killed off the, uh, the, the one for July for Anarbor. Uh, and so yeah, you know, when things get nice and safe and mellowed out again, uh, we'll, we'll be more than happy to get everybody back together. Cause God knows we miss people. Um, but yeah, such is life. It is what it is. We're trying to stay safe. I looked at my calendar for this week, just from Google and Friday was supposed to be the ministry came at DM concert and I'm like, Hey, good. It got postponed and good. Cause I'm, can't walk still. So a double good. Um, but yeah, April next year. But then, uh, I found Judas priest. It's kind of weird. Uh, went on sale for the Fox Lasar um, like in September. So I'm like, cool. I like a good heavy metal show. Um, tickets are like a hundred bucks. So I'm like, okay. You know, for like early, like, and there's nothing sold. Like if you go to Ticketmaster right now, you can get like fifth row seats, um, all the way around the box, Dude. Well, I mean that that's too early. I like, I'm sorry. That's that's what three months from now? Ish. Wait. No. Yeah, no two months from now. Um, and so, I mean, looking at it, looking at what's going through with, um, you know, Miami just shut down all their bars, restaurants, beaches, gyms, yada, yada, you got Arizona in the midst of all this guy, did it like it's no, this isn't going to be cleaned up in two months at all. Who knows? That's what I like. Yeah. Cause I'm thinking like, Hey, I want to buy the tickets. Nope, no sight, no Bob science knows. It's not going to know. Let's be clear. Science knows it's not going to be done. Well, you know, you know, you don't, you don't never know it could be a vaccine come out. It could just go away. Who knows, or it could be, or a, you know, it could be a world mass hysteria for the next three months. And you know, more people turn into HOA presidents, you know, This is true. Well, and so I do, I love the meme. That's been floating around that said, uh, if nothing else, 2020 has proven to me that time travel is real because they keep going back and trying to fix things. But then they just wind up making it worse, like the premise of every time travel movie ever known to mankind. And so, you know, that's why the murder Hornets, uh, disappeared. Uh, but now we have the bubonic. Plague is back in China. Is that B O O B or No? It'd be, you know, there, there are no boobs on people's necks. It, it is, it is bubonic, No plague. And I'm like, Ooh, is that good? No, it's no, it's not your girl standing behind you while you're sitting down. It's that's not, that's not what this is. Damn it, There are plenty of cases of bubonic plague in the American Southwest over years. It's dry and true. A so it's not an unusual thing. Yeah. But Hey, uh, real quick, America's uh, getting ready big, get back to work with the win, the new economy. You need to take advantage of every advantage to succeed. Smart companies run on NetSuite by Oracle,

In the second episode of the Unmasked History of Scooby Doo, Alexa chats with Slade Echeverria, the lead singer and bassist of Anarbor, about their version of What’s New Scooby Doo for the Mystery Begins, the band’s new EP, and more. Highlights of this episode include: 1- How Anarbor was the band chosen to be featured in Scooby Doo The Mystery Begins.  2- The process behind the making of the You and I music video.  3- Info on the new Anarbor EP, Tangerine. And make sure to follow along on Twitter @UnmaskedSD, Instagram @unmaskedsdpodcast, or at unmaskedsdpodcast.com for more groovy content!

What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? This is the it and the D show episode 351. We are still in quarantine, even though we’re slowly getting back into business, cheers to all the bars and restaurants that got to open up today. A guest this week of the illustrious one, mr. Fred Brown. He was on about a month ago, actually. What about a month and a half ago? Right? When everything started breaking kind of educating us on COVID and what a better time to bring them back then, uh, cause all the madness going on right now with the doubts and misinformation and all this other stuff.     Oh. And let’s not forget all the bars and restaurants reopening and everybody believing it’s bar crawl day. Yeah. Let’s not forget. Yeah. Hockey glass will save us all here to clear up all the madness and Dave, you know what you may fire when ready. All right. Yeah. And Fred, since the last time, uh, we’ve decided we’re not playing the intro, uh, during these video sessions. So we’re not going to make you suffer through that again. Okay. It was very inspiring. Welcome. And thank you for hanging out with us. This is the it, and the D show we are hanging out, uh, in our respective houses for the time being, this is episode three 51. This is Bob, the sales guy that is Dave, the geek, Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter, find it online it and the d.com and do us a favor, give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. And uh, yeah. So this is usually where we talk about the events and we have not put any back on the calendar just yet. Uh, but now that things are starting to open up, we will be looking at doing so. Um, I know our buddy Neil was at, uh, where we were supposed to be having our first event that got canceled Del Ray cozy lounge. Uh, so we’ll be reaching out to them and seeing how things are going and maybe go back there. Uh, and then we’ll work on the Anarbor events as well. But yeah, so it’s a, they’re they’re, they’re coming soon and, uh, and, and, and look, and look and listen to, I listened to Bob with his, uh, with his new microphone. Sounded all good and stuff. Yeah. I’m not all that. It doesn’t sound like I’m in the toilet. If you’re not watching the show. I think I got an idea for our next event that we should all wear, like those kitty life preservers and like all handout, like, uh, so, so we have this, see the distance like around our waists. Oh, you mean like the hip waders? Yes. Yeah, exactly. Like this, just like you slide them over your head, like life preservers. And I was like, what’s that going to hit? Not like a hospital, a we’ll we’ll do the whole thing. We’ll where the, uh, the face shields with the windshield wiper, the big Brown thing around our waist life preservers. I think we, uh, we need the giant burger King hats, the giant burger King crowns from Germany. We need to find our way to get our hands on those, but Hey, a Fred’s already getting a patient where we are. If you didn’t hear the pre-roll, we’re very, very lucky to have mr. Fred Brown back with us. Uh, I would consider how do we introduce you politely without a, uh, I guess you are all things, um, I guess why don’t you go ahead and introduce yourself before I stick my foot in my mouth any further? Oh, well, I, I work a little bit in epidemiology and infectious disease. I’ve done. Gosh, I, I started doing the work back in 1985. We, uh, I was on the team that discovered the first and then developed the first AIDS test, uh, for HIV, uh, detecting HIV. And unfortunately at the time we, uh, had a test, but we didn’t have any cure as a little bit similar to what we have with Qubit right now. But, uh, you know, HIV is at that point was really a deadly, you know, much more deadly than, than, than it is. And so most people after we developed the test didn’t want one. And so what we did is we actually developed it for the blood serum and we can’t, we tested all the blood. So people wouldn’t be getting diseased from the blood. And then I went, uh, and started, uh, a little company called Alkermes. And we did quite a bit of work in delivering, uh, new drugs across the blood brain barrier, which was a challenge. And then I basically helped develop a 27 major drugs and 13 diagnostic products and seven or eight vaccines in my career. So you have kids in a, you know, in, uh, who, uh, who, uh, were born in the 1990s ’em up, they probably were, were vaccinated and they have had vaccines. Then they would probably vaccinated with some of the work that I did. And most people who have been to an emergency room, public took, had drugs that I take. And most people who have cancer have taken some of the drugs that I developed as well. So that’s some of the back on it. I speak on behalf of all of us. We’re very lucky to have you with us and thank you for your time. Yeah, it’s a pleasure. I mean, he’s, he’s got a lot more credit than most of our, you know, our, our common guest in eighties, D-list celebrities. I mean, that’s so I don’t know, Dave, I got a hundred questions. Dave, you have a hundred questions, Randy, you have a hundred questions, I guess we all flip a coin, Dave, I guess start off you a fired a few off an email. Why don’t you, uh, I guess fire off one we’ll we’ll play round Robin. Well, yeah, so, I mean, I guess let’s, let’s start with obviously the, the big one. So, you know, Michigan’s bars and restaurants are reopening today, um, or reopened today, uh, you know, a lot of them, uh, I know quite a few places that, uh, that, that were opened at midnight, uh, to get that two hour Russian. Uh, so I mean, from your perspective, you know, what should people be paying attention to? And, and, and by people, I mean, both patrons and staff, you know, owners, you know, that kind of thing, like what, what should we be keeping in mind as these rules are relaxing? Because I mean, I, no joke, my Facebook feed was just littered with people, checking in at bars today and, and everything else. And, and so I, yeah, I’m, I’m curious as to what your thoughts are there. So they’re basically four, four things you want to think about. We can go into the tail if you like as well. The first thing is your own personal health. So you, are you feeling good? And as you know, we started off with about four major, uh, diagnostics for the disease. The first one was, if you had a fever 88 of the time, you had a fever that was indicative of, of COVID. Unfortunately that’s a very, uh, you know, it’s a sensitive test, but it’s not very specific. You can have pretty broad yeah. Were for a lot of different reasons. I mean, we had a, you know, shortness of breath was a big one and a dry cough. Wasn’t another big one. And there’s also some cognitive issues that we felt were issue issues. Now we’ve actually got about 12 different ways of diagnosing and I’ve got a list of them. I can, I can show you if you’re interested. I’ll just show it to you quickly. Uh, I have it here. Mmm. This isn’t the right deck, but we can get there one second and right here. Yeah. You got a dialog box up. You’re not doing anything until you kill that off. Oh, sorry. [inaudible], we’ll save this. Thank you. That’s the benefit of being in the room with three it guys. Beautiful. Let’s see. Here, there, we are open that up and see where we are. So the major, major, uh, diagnostic factors, uh, now we’ve got loss of smell and taste. That was a new one. We weren’t expecting that at all. That’s a very rare for a coronavirus, uh, of any kind to kind of create a loss of smell. The dry cough continued at 68%. We were just thought it was 66%, but it was 68%. Fatigue is a big one. If you’re really feeling very tired out. Uh, and, uh, despite getting a lot of sleep, that was a big one. It turns out there was some student production, the shortness of breath continued at about 20%. And then there was a whole mass of smaller things that we found out that it was a little bit broader indication levels than we thought. So the first question you want to ask yourself before, before you go is what sputum protection production slam. Bob. You want to go by an expectorant, let’s just say that you want, you want to be feeling good when you go out. And if you have any of those things, dumps that, then see it, you know, cause again, we’ll get a test and check it out and make sure you’re doing good. Uh, so that’s the first big question. That’s the next big question you have to ask is what your own personal level of, of risk is. And, um, you know, for guys like me, I I’m older. And so I actually have a higher level of risk and I like to admit, I can show you that quickly as well. Here are the different factors and you can see it really, it really hype so quick. Um, uh, with, uh, with these, I have a feeling we’re not going to like this chart, Bob [inaudible]. So let me see, there was a slideshow slide. So if you’re, if you’re basically under 40, um, you’re, you know, you’re, you’re in pretty good shape. Um, unless you’re saying smoking have had, and I’ve had a major disease like cancer or haven’t, haven’t had bad ass, um, then, then I think it’s, it’s relatively safe, uh, to be out and about much more. So say than when, when you get into, you know, my, my area, which I’m, you know, on the 4% side, uh, of a mortality rate. And by the time you get to my mom’s age, I gotta really be careful. Cause she’s, you know, she’s talking about, uh, uh, know one, one in five chance of dying. If she, if she comes up with it, if you’ve got a slide up, go ahead and share it. Oh, I’m sorry. I’m I’m making all sorts of mistakes tonight. I apologize. No problem. Here we are. I will hear that up. How does that look? There you go. Yeah. So, you know, basically you can see if you’re, if you’re under 40, um, the chances of, of being killed by, by, by COBIT, aren’t, aren’t zero, but they’re a lot better than if you’re say in your sixties, seventies or eighties, by the time you’re 60, you gotta really think pretty closely about whether you want to get into a high, high risk situation. Especially if you’ve got these underlying conditions like cardiovascular disease, which a lot of us have and diabetes, you can get a sense of, you know, with no underlying condition. And you know, when you’re younger, you know, you’re talking about a 0.7 0.5% mortality rate kind of thing. Uh, once you get, you know, over, over, over 50, you’re talking about two to 3%. Um, uh, and by the time we get to my mom’s age, as I said, you know, you’re talking about a one in five chance of dying. It turns out once you get over over 60, the males die a lot faster than females. And unfortunately, as we, as we, as we know, if the city does play a role, there is no genetic role that we’ve found so far, but it’s the socioeconomic conditions that are causing, especially black people to be dying at about three times the rate of the rest of us and getting the disease about two times the rate as the rest of us. So, so do these factors stack. So if you’re 80 plus and have CLPD, are you yeah, 28%. That’s right. And they don’t stack exactly. You’ve got to multiply two by the 0.7 underlying condition number, uh, through, but you know, say that you’re a 60 year old man with diabetes. You gotta, you got a 4.1, 3% chance. So you start with a 0.7 and start to add on the factors for the, of the additional factors. So yeah, it’s, uh, it gets so, you know, so that’s the second big thing. First week thing is already feeling good before you go out. Second big thing is what is my personal risk factor? Um, cause if you get it, no, I think driving a car, you gotta want a one and 700 chance of, of, of, of crashing and dying here. You’re talking about something that’s worse if you catch it. So you got, so that’s, uh, uh, that’s the next big factor personally, and you want to kind of assess your, your, your, your, your level and the, and there’s there, there are a little, you can use the mobile phone. Uh, I created a little app that says, you know, here’s my situation. I’ve got diabetes and I’ve got, you know, heart disease. I’ve got hypertension and I’m 70, you know, what are my chances? And it’ll, it’ll give you a number, stay home. That’s what it’ll say. Just be really, really, I make sure it’s worth it. Do you have, do you have one of those giant hamster bubbles? That would be great. Hey, Fred, I really walk it into this. When, when Dave told me you’re going to be on, I got all excited because literally my, my head’s been spinning from information slash slash misinformation, and I’m going to run some scenarios of everything that I’ve been hearing. And I want you to tell me what’s real. Cause it’s driving me nuts. So, you know, hold on, hold on. Just say you’ve got two more, right? I have two more. Sorry. We’ll just quickly. I’ll go through. I’m sorry. The third thing is what is the general level of COVID in your environment? And now we’ve got all sorts of little weather forecasts and COBIT announcements that says here’s what it looks like. It looks like. So in Michigan, our worst environments are Kent County, McComb County, Oakland County, and Wayne County. Those have the highest incidences of Kobe generally in the environment. If you’re up in the UPP, not bad, if you’re down below, say Gaylord, you’ve got to start getting a little bit more nervous. And as you get more toward, uh, grand Rapids or Detroit, you gotta be more careful than you would in the more rural environments. And then the last factor is the activity itself. And, uh, I’ve got a funny survey. I’ll I’ll, I’ll share with you guys. The epidemiologists all got together, the research epidemiologists, the United States, and we did a survey among ourselves saying, you know, what, what, what, what, what are, what, what were we willing to do? And you’ll find it sort of amusing. I think that the I’ll show it, share it with you later with just so it’s the, it’s how you feeling yourself. What’s your personal risk factor? What’s the general level of COVID in your environment and how dangerous is the activity that I’m planning to do? How is it relative to the other stuff? So if you go out for a walk in the park, uh, with low, low levels population, probably not too bad, if you’re planning to see in a closed up bar, we know for a lengthy period of time and you have a high risk, you want to think that through pretty carefully, right? All right. Now, Bob go, yay. No, so everything, I mean, I try to read as much as I can from as many different sources I can. And you know, basically my, my, the week over the last couple of weeks has gone like this, like who says this this week. And then who says that this week CDC says this this week, then they say something else. Then there’s health experts on this news channel that says, you can do this, but you can’t do that. And then on the other channel, they say, you can do that, but you can’t do this. And then, you know, everyone on social media is I call it the Corena virus, the Karen of virus, shaming of activities. They don’t apply. They don’t deem appropriate. Right. Um, and so basically I’m caught in this, like, and then Fowchee says this, and then the president says that, and then the press, the president secretary says this, like, literally I’m caught in the middle of what the hell? Like, what do I do? I just sit. I just I’ll just keep sitting in my chair. Like, I don’t know what to do anymore. Like who do I guess, who do you listen to her? What’s what’s right. And what’s wrong these days. So I usually go back to the scientific literature myself, you know? So I’ll take a look and see what’s been quoted and what the evidence is. So we ha we, and, and the, and the challenge has been lately that some of the scientific literature that normally you can’t really trust, uh, has, you know, 60 different coauthors. Everyone is partnering with each other. They don’t really know each other that well anymore. And the pure review tends to happen after the publication. Now, before you guys all get together and say, wait a minute, but now you sort of have to make that assessment for yourself every time. And these stuff get this good stuff gets published fast. And then of course, it’s, it’s a prominent group and you want to get it out there. And wow. You know, so it’s, it’s a, it’s a, it’s sort of a wild West, right? I believe in the it world, that’s what we call testing and production. See, I was going to say, every engineer puts in their own change control. That’s how I was going to, you know, [inaudible] whichever way. But like, so, I mean, that was the whole point of science. I always thought was science always evolve. Science always changes. There’s always people with different theories, but like, you know, like you all were trying to look for the Bible, the gospel what’s the truth. And it seems to change depending on the wind. Um, and that’s why, you know, like we, we all want to be safe. We want to all keep our families safe. But like at the same token, we’re like, wait a minute. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Oh, I know, I know. So there, there’s a couple of things that are, are also influencing it. For example, there’s, there are a couple of big programs that we have recently that everyone was talking about, uh, the Madrona vaccine, you know, and it’s hurt you. The way you create these clinical trials is you can do it in a couple different ways. One is to have a large enough sample size where you can actually do, uh, an open up the dataset, look at it, and that affect the power of the ultimate answer. And so what Madrona did in order to help, I think their, you know, their, their stock price, obviously they’re a publicly held company. They decided to, you know, open up parts of their datasets early, be able to announce that, and then, you know, force us to wait for the rest of the data later. So, uh, what happened was everyone looked at it and said, wait a minute, we’re only, you know, you guys tested 45 patients. You only opened up the data set on eight. And so it’s very hard nor normally we’d see the whole dataset. Everything would have been peer reviewed. We would have, you know, and instead it was sort of controlled by a business group, you know, business communications person out of scientist. And it was controlled their business publication, not, you know, science or Lancet or, uh, you know, uh, necessarily a journal that you did that you’d expect. Right? So that’s another additional complicating piece because people are competing for, um, trying to say their drug is good enough that we’re going to do something special with it. And especially in the vaccine space, they’re trying to bet that the vaccine will work before they’ve proven it. There’s gonna be enough data that says that’s suggestive, that we’re going to put in two, three, $4 billion into a manufacturing plant, uh, before we even know for sure that the thing is safe and efficacious. So gonna be some big bets laid down, and we have to know that early enough to make those bets work. So we don’t have to wait for the vaccine if it’s successful. I mean, is there some big factors out there? So, I mean, is, is science suffering from the same issue that like media and journalism in general are where it’s more about first than, right. Well, in, in, in this case, there’s enough, there’s enough shots on goal that if you’re first and wrong, uh, it’ll be pretty clear, pretty fast. And, and the guy coming in behind that, on the net with the next shot, I go, we’ll still have a good chance in some instances where there’s too big of a gap, uh, then, uh, sometimes, you know, first, first makes right. It gets you, it gives us the most market here, typically in pharmaceuticals. You know, there’s a big race. Usually the first person to market gets 40 to 60% market share and, and retains that market share even when the next sets of, of, of, of, of solutions come on stream. So it, you know, 46%, it’s a big, and then the next, you know, number two gets 30% market share and number three gets maybe 10 or 15% and then number four or five. So you, you know, you’re done, you’re fighting over scraps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that’s, that’s a usual market situation in pharmaceuticals. And so there is a lot of pressure to be fast, but in this case, there’s 10 vaccines that are supposed to be ready to at least be looked at in phase three clinical testing by, you know, November, December, January of this year. So Bob, just to like, I guess a good specific example of what you were just talking about. So, you know, early on it was, uh, okay, even if you’re asymptomatic, you can absolutely pass this on to people. Um, it’s, you know, that’s a big deal. So even if you’re asymptomatic still be careful today, the who comes out and says, well, as it turns out, asymptomatic carriers, you know, isn’t, you, you’re probably, that’s probably not a distribution mechanism. That’s interesting that who did that, who come out today? I, I wasn’t aware of that. Um, because I literally just came out a bit ago. I’ll have to take a look at that. I look at the data, uh, because we know one of the challenges of the drug is that a lot of the scientists think that there is a lot of asymptomatic transmission, uh, not because, um, well, and then the two reasons for that. Uh, so I, I just, I I’m surprised by that conclusion, uh, act Josh, I’ll show you another slide if you want to take a look. Okay. Um, and that slide is about diagnostics themselves, and it’s sort of interesting how imprecise we are right now, still, unfortunately. So if you look at the different tests that are available, yeah. It’s an important for people to realize this. Um, so did I share it? Can you see it? Yep. Got it. All right. So, well, that’s the fatality rates again, here’s diagnosing COVID. So it turns out that if you think you got exposed from COVID. So my daughter was, uh, she was protesting in Chicago this week, uh, much to my unhappiness for a whole number of reasons out there. Um, and, uh, and she wants now to get tested to make sure she didn’t get a COBIT. And I said, well, that’s great, but you’re going to have to wait about five and a half days. Um, in order to really know what she get to give your best chance of knowing whether you’ve got COVID or not. So it turns out that if you think you might’ve gotten exposed, like you got on a plane and you want to go visit your elderly grandmother, and you’re concerned that on the plane, you might’ve been exposed, even though you’ve been good at home, uh, you know, uh, for, for two weeks, uh, then believe it or not, you probably shouldn’t see your grandmother for 14 days, uh, uh, because of the asymptomatic issues that we’ve dealt with it. Well, it’s, I mean, that’s what, uh, that’s the law or the rule that Hawaii passed. Um, they got, they got tired of everyone flying there because the flights were so cheap. And so they mandated a 14 day quarantine, um, and actually had a, they started and ran a fund where, you know, if, if you weren’t, if you really planning on being there for a week, they would basically pay to, you know, change your ticket and send you back home. Same thing with UK. If you go to the United Kingdom out of it, unless you get an air corridor, this isn’t an air corridor exemption. You’re going to have to wait for 14 days to enter the country. Um, and if you’re from coming in, so here on this, on this chart shows two different kinds of basic tests. The first test is in the solid line, the solid lines are the molecular and editing testing that actually tests whether you’ve got an active virus. And basically if you test three days after you’ve been exposed and you have a fuller nasal pharyngeal swab, and you go to Harvard and you get tested, they’re only saying it 40% of the time, they can detect it after that’s, after three days, if you wait for four days, there’s a 70% chance that you can detect it. And if you wait for five and a half days, that’s sort of the [inaudible] detection period of time at that point, uh, you, um, uh, we have about an 80, 84% chance of detecting it. And that’s about as good as it gets. You are in the hospital, you know, on an operating table and something inserted into your lungs to get what they call a Brocky, uh, bronchitis, uh, uh, alveolar Luvata or sputum directly from your lungs. And then you get a 92% chance, but there’s a big difference between what they publish, which is the, the, the analytical capability of a test, or just like 99.9, 5%. And the actual clinical experience that you have, because that once you take that swab, the first question is, did you get, get the right part of the nose, a little part of the, uh, to be at the right part of the lung? Did you tickle the STEM of the brain properly? Yeah. Make sure he got all, you got it all mixed up with the right in the right reagents and you gotta send it off and then you got to do the test, but that’s just to be done just right. And by the time we go through all that, it’s about 80 or 85%, you know, true positive breaks. Dave, didn’t you say your favorite was the stool sample one. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Hey, you know, that, that stool sample is turning out to be somewhat helpful. If you want to look at community spread, it’s about 55% accurate, uh, you know, uh, sensitive, um, uh, and specific overall. Um, and, and what’s interesting is if you have every day you’re taking, so the effluent charges of a building or of a particular area, you can tell whether or not there there’s, there’s antibody building up in a particular population, and then you can go back and you can test that particular population with the more specific tests, more sensitive tests, uh, and actually, you know, find the people and the reasons it’s so important is that this, um, that is, is that we do think at least, uh, I have to look at that who article that’s an interesting new, uh, new, well, so here’s, let me, let me read you the quote. So it’s a, from dr. Maria van Krakow, um, who said, uh, head of who’s emerging disease and zoonosis unit, uh, from the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmit onward to a second individual and then follows up with it’s very rare. Now she had, does immediately follow that. And of course they don’t really highlight this quote as much, um, where she says absolutely more research and data are needed to truly answer the question of whether or not asymptomatic carriers can spread it. Um, yeah, so that that’s important. She didn’t say presymptomatic, if she had, has she said presymptomatic and asymptomatic, then I would have questioned it because it turns out with your, your, your, the biggest amount of virus you’ve got that it’s shedding happens about two and a half days after being, after being, um, uh, after being exposed. So if he had said, and we think of asymptomatic rate about 25%, it ranges between 20 and 50%, depending on who you’re talking about. So eventually, you know, 80% of the time you’ll come down with symptoms, uh, 80 say 75, 80% of the time will come down with some symptoms that you are at least we’re right here. Well, I was gonna say, even if they’re, you know, that that first chart you threw up there, I mean, a lot of those symptoms are, Hey, I’ve got a, or, Hey, I’ve got the flu or it’s allergy season in Michigan. So as, as we get as become more, as we’ve become more aware, more educated, he, he could be right that, you know, the asymptomatic rate of transmission is going to be lower because we’re going to recognize that Quebec, I could have colon COVID and isolate appropriately. So can you, she may be right about that. I’d like to look at the dataset that she was looking at, because most of my colleagues are saying, we still think there’s some asymptomatic spread to, uh, to this. And so if you can imagine a stool sample, the, the, the issue we’ve got, I just, I just want to, God bless you. And it just bless you for having an actual scientific answer for Bob’s dumb ass comment. I just, I, I respect you so much for this are critical. Well, it turns out they’re more important than we thought they would be, uh, because this particular virus has a very, what they call low key value. And K value is about a lot of clustering that occurs that in order to transmit the disease, cause it’s an R value. Everyone talks about it says one person gets it two and a half people Morgan. And so on. It turns out that isn’t exactly the way that virus, this particular virus works. This particular virus really works a lot more with super spreading, so super spreading by location, who we’re spending by activity super spreading by individual. So it turns out that, um, you know, one guy in Italy actually gave the disease in two days to 761 people. And he was, he was a super spreader. It turns out there’s some, I think I had an X like that. Yeah. We don’t know enough about literacy to figure this out. So what’s nice about the stool sample is if you get starting to get community spread, you can try to isolate, um, more with, uh, and try to find that that super spreading location activity or person, uh, faster than we can normally. Cause unfortunately we don’t have very good contact rates and a lot of countries have really invested a lot contact tracing. We don’t have have that as well established yet. We’re going to get there, but it’ll take some time, but no, we’re not quite as good as say Taiwan where they’re really good. So, I mean, I guess that leads to it. So our waste treatment plants, like kind of on the front lines of this, and I know, and is, is this maybe one of the issues with, I’m just thinking like, you know, you’ve seen like lower, like the lower earlier numbers or lower numbers in rural areas where you may have a lot of homes on septic systems. Um, so you’re not getting, you know, community data you’re, you know, it’s still one offs. Like, so I mean, yeah, I mean our, our waste and water treatment plants kind of on the frontline to this now it’s a waste of, uh, yes, but even more so maintenance, uh, operations. So you can imagine, you know, collection areas of, uh, around buildings and that actually are isolated back all the way to a building. You can get to that point and in some situations, but yes, your answer is, yeah, they’re, they’re becoming more important than, than I originally thought they were going to be sort of interesting. Uh, we have a couple of comments from our, uh, Facebook who are watching the video live. Um, if you have tested positive for antibodies, what is, what does that mean? How are you immune or not? How long are you moving if you are? Yes, that is a great, that is a very valuable answer question. Um, so this that’s the second test it’s up here. I’ll just show you, you should absolutely continue to stay at home for as long as possible. So here’s, here’s that here’s the same, here’s that same slide again. And the dotted line, the dotted line tests, um, are the antibody tests and this one shows two of them. Uh, it shows the, uh, the IgG, which is the important one that, that actually is a longterm antibody that converse some immunity we think. And then the IgM that signals the body, Hey, there’s something going on here. So antibodies are, as you know, they, they, they, they arise because you’ve got a foreign object that attacking your body. And what’s interesting is if you’re one year old and if something attacks you and then, you know, 90 years later, you’re, you’re sort of, you know, wheeling and yourself around the retirement home and they test, they can find that antibody back when you’re one year old. So that, that has a permanent sort of tattoo in your system that, that, that, that go away now that the effectiveness of that antibody won’t be as strong when your ideas is when it just a couple of weeks after you’ve been infected. But, uh, but it’ll still be there. So you can still detect whether you’ve ever been infected by the disease. As you can see this, this line goes up to about 70%. So right now our best antibody detection systems detect about 70% of the time, a false, uh, we’ll we’ll, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll be accurate 70% time, but it also means that 30% of the time you may think that you’ve got antibodies and you really don’t. So you want to make sure, uh, my recommendation is, is take this test a few times before you go out and try to be Superman. Uh, I would say three times right now, uh, and there are different tests for the antibody Roche’s is the most accurate, or if those is also highly accurate, Abbott’s a little bit less accurate, but faster. So depending on how, you know, how fast you want to go and so on, uh, and, and the accuracy level and the kind of test is being done. But basically there are a couple of things you can do once you’ve had a positive, uh, antibody response. The first is you just want to find out whether you have any immune response. Now we’re looking at that pretty carefully, uh, because we’re ruling for plastic proteins that will actually, or they call neutralize, uh, these, uh, the, the virus. And those are rare to find. We think we found a couple that complex was a virus and make it, make it an ex sort of, uh, inhibit its path to the cells and then reduces infection rate. We haven’t found that many that actually, no, come on and just kill a thing. Uh, we’re looking at something called DARPA, which is sort of interesting. It comes from a malaria, but we haven’t found that much. I I’m working with some of the guys who were at Rockefeller and some of the guys who are at Stanford, and we’re, we’re a little bit disappointed in the number of we take. And so if you, if you’ve been infected and you want to contribute, um, let me know when I can sit, certainly set you up, uh, to, to donate your blood and they’ll take a big bag of it and then decide, tell you what kind of antibodies it’s again, it’s Mike, you can absolutely drain him. We’re, we’re totally good with that. He will, uh, on his behalf, we will, we will donate him to science. That’s absolutely fine. [inaudible] are, these are, these are done at very at, are they called P three labs? So they’re, you know, super infection disease. And then as far as infectious disease goes, you know, P three before that’s, you know, you’re, you’re talking about outer space type of, of sterility, uh, environments, you know, uh, I, you know, it looks like, it looks like the neck, uh, you know, the, the, the alien Malians are attacking. When you go to those labs, they, what they do is they take, they take the blood and they actually take live virus and they check and they check out whether or not the virus was being affected by any of the antibodies they found in the book. And then what they do is if they find some good, if you find that your blood is good, they’ll give these what they call plasma therapy options. Convalescent therapy is another word for it. And they’ll inject injected. The healthcare workers will inject with people who are very ill and these antibodies will help them give them a boost, temporary boost. Do you want to do it more often? You have to what they call monoclonal antibodies. They actually take the antibody that it’s working instead of giving you a, was all the antibodies. They’ll, they’ll highlight one or two. And that’s what we’re looking for. One or two that really are strong and actually synthesize it in, in, in cell culture and create monoclone. And then they’ll, you know, they’ll actually inoculate it with an oxygen. And so it produces these antibodies all the time. And, um, and, and, uh, that’s, that’s a, uh, they call it, it’s a cell line. That’s an Nicola, an immortal cell line. And this immortal cell lines produce just nothing but produce to anybody or at least take them out. And we’re able to very precisely target the people with the antibody. So that’s the next level of therapy we’re not there yet. We right now, we’re still working with cocktails and spun down plasma, but we’ll get there and it’ll, it should be helpful. So there’s our, yeah, there was a story that came out today also, or yesterday there was a scientist in Norway basically came out and said there were convinced, wrote a report that, uh, that it was lab made in China. Um, I know we had, uh, origin story. We didn’t really, you know, we were all over the board again. Um, what is, uh, I guess what’s your take on that? See, now it’s funny. It was on Forbes and I went to go click on it and it said, the pages look no longer active. I wonder if I know, right. That’s why I can’t figure anything out. What’s what’s right. What’s wrong. I swear to God, that’s what it said. That’s what happened. I drastic Laura flora couldn’t that there were a couple of big announcements that Hydrox made plugin wasn’t working. And then they found out the scientist had used a lab that really wasn’t didn’t do the work with the chiropractor I should have. And now that now it’s back being tested again, so that that’s going to happen a bunch of all, but basically most scientists, so nothing is impossible, right? It could have been done in the, uh, in, in, in a lab. Uh, and there are some Nobel laureates that are absolutely convinced that they’ve found, you know, pieces of HIV basis of this space, of that, uh, virus that they think is highly suspicious. Um, that would indicate that maybe they were looking for an HIV vaccine. Cause a lot of us are working on HIV vaccines, right? Wouldn’t it be great to have a vaccine for that stupid thing finally. Um, and, but then we still roll out 10 years out. So they’re, you know, people are working with, with different kinds of vectors and then putting in HIV, uh, HIV, uh, proteins into the vector to see if that’ll work, they create a vaccine. So that’s most plausible explanation of how it could possibly be that they were working with a virus like this that could be released. It’s highly, highly unlikely. What’s much more probable is that, um, that we had a, a shift in a drift. So what happens with these, uh, what’s happened to these DNA sequences that are in the viruses. They is, they, uh, as they, as they shifted drift, that means basically that they can, they can, uh, go into a bat. And we think what happened was it went into a bat. It started in a bat. It was then got to go ahead and do a pinion community. Hanging community shifted the DNA slightly. Uh, it was a normal grown virus into that. And the thing we community chipped with DNA slightly. And then we had some drift occurring in the, in the, in the DNA sequences would cause this funny virus to occur. That’s a far more, it turns out biologically it’s a far, far more likely scenario than, than, than a P for lab, which, which, which, which this wasn’t a mistake in the releasing something. Now it’s a brand new before lab. They were still training their people. There were some, you know, there were some safety reports that said, these guys aren’t doing exactly the right thing, but even then we tend to use, uh, you know, deactivated viruses and just as highly, highly unlikely. And then the people who run that lab, you know, I I’ve met with them a few times. They’re very, they’re, they’re some of the best, best immunologists and invest just at best people in the world and in the space. Right. So I’ll just, I’m just scanning that article, Fred. And I was like, uh, it was dismissed by experts. So it’s like, well, I’m not the person that wrote it was the expert. Cause it was proven. And now it’s, they’re proving. It’s not proven. So again, that’s where I get. I’m sitting here at home, just shaking my head because I’m reading this then it’s then it’s, it’s like watching the, a, the Pluto’s a planet episode of Rick and Morty that’s yet to come guys, one Nobel prize in the HIV field who believe we’re absolutely convinced that it was, uh, it was, uh, one of the guys in France. You don’t want that States who are convinced. And they’re very, they’re very, very prominent people in the field, you know, Nobel prize winners who are convinced that this was a something that happened by the chains, but it’s just, if you talk to most epidemiologists, most to be analogous, most neurologists who are, you know, serious about the field, it’s like, no one really believes it. And if it is, it’s such a small chance that it’s it’s to be at a disbelief. So I give it a small percent chance. There’s always a chance, but probably highly, highly, highly unlikely. All right. So I promised Frank, I would get this one in. And I, I told him I would even quote him. He said, Hey, are the memes that are floating around that say the mask you’re wearing does virtually nothing to protect you, but it protects the other guy accurate. So if I’m wearing a mask, but others aren’t, I’m protecting these dipshits and they’re infecting me. We know that that’s an excellent summary of the three different kinds of masks that you should be aware of. The first mask is the mask that we all have access to. And that’s a mask that is, is, is basically, uh, it’s basically layers of, uh, ripped up t-shirt that’s been folded. Yeah. Yeah. And it turns out this is material’s important. So, so the material that you use is important. If you use like one ply of sill, it’s only about 20% effective, but if you use like five Plaza, so it gets about 80% effect. If you use it one or two plies of cotton, a flannel, it’ll be, you know, 60, 70%. If you use three or four plots, it’ll get about knitting, knitted, crochet with holes in it like Alyssa Milano. That’s not going to work. No, you do the hand, the hand to God do to hand to God. I went to Lowe’s the other day. And literally everybody in the store was wearing a mask, which I was really happy to see. Um, however, the guy that was running back and forth with carts, uh, that was one of the story. Employees just basically had like a big like cable knit with big, giant holes in it. Wool scarf wrapped around his head. And I was like, Oh, Oh, that’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works, but Hey, good for trying good. So this, this is a typical man. I just, I just happened to have one here. And, and what you want to do is you want to put it over your ears and you want to, you want to talk it in. You want to pull it down this way underneath and make sure see how it, how it’s going to be in and out like that. And the reason it’s doing it is because you want to make a nice don’t, don’t do it like that. It could break the metal, but it’s like this. And that’s, that’s a pretty tight seal. You have a little bit coming out this way, but the idea is that you’re stopping your breath and the person who is wearing the mask on the other side is stopping their breath. And collectively you can reduce the amount of transition by up to six fold. Well, and then for, for people like me, that wear glasses, then you put your glasses on over that. And that’s what keeps it from fogging up. That’s right. No, that’s a, that’s a big issue. There, there, there are a couple of things you don’t want to do with the math, right? The first thing you don’t want to do with a mask is touch it particularly cause it’s blocking stuff. So you’d want it when you take it on long, you want to use your, you want to use it up here. I will just show you this, this, and I see a lot of people doing it. Cause it’s is not, is useless. I’ll just tell you all this stuff comes right through your nose and through your mucus membrane. So this is not very effective. I think the a, the best analogy I’ve seen is that’s the equivalent of wearing your pants, buckled around your thighs like that. Yeah. And when you take it off, you just come behind and I take it off and then you fold it down and you throw it out right away. I don’t, don’t put it down. And you were like, I’ve just done, but it doesn’t, you know, just throw it out. And you’re all set the same thing with gloves. I don’t know if I got any gloves, but you know how to put on an off gloves, right? I mean, what you do is you put them on very carefully when you take them off, um, you, you, you, you grab it from down. Uh, ah, I do have a glove hold everything. I’ll show you. So the walls can be useful if you don’t want to wash your hands all the time. So don’t, don’t lick your fingers and you’re pulling apart the fruit bags, right? If the grocery store do not be that guy in the produce aisle, Bob, no, you avoid it, but do not touch your face, right. Or cut the mask in the middle, like that lady at the gas station. Yeah. I see. I see people with like their, their mouth exposed and they’re no, no, they’re not from Victoria’s secret. They are not crotchless panties. It’s a mask you’re supposed to be taking this seriously. Yeah. And you know what? You’re having trouble with. The mask. Women are having trouble with the vests. They’re getting like, they’re getting, so I got my gloves on, right? The way, the way. So the way you pull them on, you put them on, hold on, all of your fingers, take them off. You just grab the bottom. Right. And you try to avoid touching anything else. And you just pull them up over your fingers. Right. Then you put that one in this hand, right over your fingers, right? Everything is, everything is one bundle and you throw it out. You’re done. But taking out and off this protective gear is really important. The doctors, you know, practice it. Sometimes we watch each other, make sure they haven’t touched and exposed themselves inadvertently. So that’s one type of mask. That’s the, that’s the first type of mask. The second type of mask is a surgical mask. The surgical mask is much more comfortable and it’s better. It’s about 75% effective and reducing, you know, uh, your, uh, your breath. Um, and it’s, uh, it’s more breathable. It works not by the density of this, of the, of the material. It works actually by electrostatic, uh, uh, uh, attraction. So it actually takes the molecules and, and, and pulls them into the fabric. Uh, and it also is in fact, more effective because it blocks liquid cause it’s made for blood. You know, if you’re a surgeon, if a surgeon gets splattered, uh, it blocks the liquid, uh, contamination, which is, which is also can be very helpful if you’re around a real sick person, the last kind of mass actually PR uh, and this is answering your question. This actually protects both you and the person across from you. It’s the [inaudible] baths. And the reason that it’s, that it’s, um, protects both of you is because it actually completely filters out. It’s got a filtration system and most, as long as there’s no available on it, but the ones with valves on it are much more comfortable for the user to wear, but that just push it, all the stuff that you’re exhaling right out into the environment. And that’s extremely dangerous, right. So, I mean, at the end of the day, like the cloth mask and that kind of stuff, that you’re, that you typically see everybody walking around in. Cause that’s what we have access to. And that’s what we can get our hands on it. That’s, I mean, his question is accurate. You’re you’re, you’re not wearing it for yourself. You’re wearing it for other people. That’s right. And so everyone’s wearing it, then everyone’s being fair and you know, you’re, you’re cool. If you’re, if you’re the only guy not wearing the mask, then you’re the guy being protected everywhere else. It’s not protected. Well, I mean, and it’s, and it’s turned into, I mean, there were, there were stories coming out of a, there, I know there was one that came out of Brooklyn. There were, then there were a couple others where somebody walked into a store with a mask and they were with, or without a mask and they were just drummed out of the store. Like, you know, people, you know, just basically just yelled at and ashamed of them until they left the store. Yeah. You know, in the, in the hospital, um, you know what, you don’t want to be that guy. Right? You don’t want to be the guy who was known as a super spreader because you forgot your mask or you’re not, you didn’t wear a wet mass is properly sealed. Uh, so initially, you know, the big, you know, we would, a lot of times you think, well, you know, I’ll be the tough guy and I’ll let the mask go. And I won’t have to, you know, I won’t, I won’t be the guy who uses too much. Right. He, cause I want to save it from the teams who are older or weak or not, but it doesn’t work that way. You gotta, you know, if everyone does it, you’re, you’re pretty safe. And if, if you’re exposed, unfortunately with someone who out, without a mask, you’re going to get exposed. It’s amazing how, uh, it’s amazing how society changes. Um, I forwarded David a video of a comedian, uh, Sebastian Maniscalco. And he’s talking about going to a neighbor’s house. Yeah. Back in 2014. Yeah. Yeah. And they answered those like four years ago and how they answered the door in a surgical mask. And he goes, usually if you got one of those meds done, you pull it down and say, I’m painting downstairs. And he goes, this guy nothing. And he goes complete freak of nature. And he goes, now you look at four years later and it’s like, you’re the freak of you don’t have one on, you know, it’s just amazing how fast society changes. Yeah. And you know, it’s all about your own personal risk, you know, the, the younger people, um, uh, you know, they’re not, they’re not as high risk as we are. And so a lot of them are, are not wearing masks and it doesn’t really, it’s not, they’re not really a big risk, but hopefully they’ll, if they’re kind to us, they care about us a little bit. They’ll, they’ll ask God for our basket. Well, and I guess that’s a, that’s a good followup to that. I mean, you know, let’s, I don’t, we’ve already, we went into everything last week, but I mean, so let’s, let’s about just the simple nature of all the protests that have been going on over the past couple of weeks. And, you know, we’ve, we’ve seen, uh, you know, there’s been an awful lot of video and an awful lot of footage. Um, somewhere you’ve seen a lot of people wearing mass. A lot of people are not wearing masks. You had, um, you know, a lot of people were, you know, blasting governor Whitmer, uh, because she was at a, you know, she went to a March, um, wasn’t standing six feet apart from each other, you know, did have a mask on, but wasn’t social distancing, all that kind of stuff. Um, so I mean, I guess what’s your, like, so like what should we be expecting from what we’ve seen over the last couple of weeks? And like, what, what should we be looking out for in the next couple of weeks and, and that sort of thing. Yeah. So it usually takes about two weeks of incubation and then you’ll find out whether there’s been a seat seeding effect with, with more infection, but usually it takes about two to three months to start the seed. And then the way the exponential growth works that we talked about last time you get enough of a base and all of a sudden it just starts to take off. Um, and, uh, and so, you know, it’ll take two or three weeks and we have a slight hump then watch out because we could be getting, uh, you know, into a spiral that is going to cause a rapid growth rate. And hopefully we’ll have enough testing out there that it’ll, you know, alert us to the fact that, Hey, we got a lot of communities spread and, uh, it turned out that we, uh, got into some super spreading situations with, uh, with, with the protest on the protest side. You know, I, sir, I certainly understand that if people want to go out and have their say, my recommendation would be, if you’re in category like me, uh, and you wrote anyone like go out, um, a couple of things, sort of drive yourself there, don’t tell you to take public transportation. Right. That right there now it’s, uh, actually, uh, is, is part of the issue. If you’re in an enclosed car for a long time, finally get to the event that’s sitting in, you know, uh, sitting in with lots of other people who are breathing, uh, in a bus. That’s not, that’s not a good thing. So I wouldn’t take a bus, you know, who would do the event, even though there are a lot of people doing that, uh, at my age, I also, uh, would definitely wear a mask, definitely wear gloves. I would probably carry a sign. Wouldn’t take part in the chanting, uh, because, uh, there’s a lot when, when you’re chanting talking, you know, in order to get exposed, you have to know about, about a thousand to 3000 particles of, of, of, of the virus getting inside of you. Um, normal breathing is about 58, 50, 50, uh, particles, uh, for expert ex exploration. So after about five or six minutes, you know, you can be exposed talking to somebody. And if you’re shouting, uh, then you’re talking about, you know, maybe five to 10,000, especially if you’re using a lot of ages and stages and bees and you know, all the, all the things that everybody had, a microphone hates, all the plosives. Yeah. Whatever, whatever you’re saying, Oh boy, those kinds of words. Uh, and then certainly the, the, the big issue is if they start using, you know, tear gas that about to be my followup. Yep. Yeah. Then you really gotta be careful cause it can aggravate your lungs to begin with. You gotta take off your mask. You got a lot of people coughing and you got a lot. And when you cough, you’re talking about expirations of 50 miles an hour, that’ll go with, you know, 20, 30 feet. So, you know, uh, it’s a, it’s a, you know, it’s a big difference between shouting which goes 10 feet, uh, versus versus coughing, which goes a lot further. Uh, and, and the other thing I’d say is, uh, you sure don’t want to be arrested and put into Patty wagon with 30 other guys and then put, put into jail, avoid that at all. I feel like that’s good life advice, Fred. I feel like I forgot his name. My wife loves that show. The guy who runs the tigers. Oh, a Joe Maldonado, Joe exotic. Yeah. Yeah. Well exotic. Yeah. I mean, it’s it, you know, if you’re in prison, it’s, it’s a dangerous situation in there cause it’s just, you’re sitting there in a germ box. So those are most of my thoughts about, about protesting, you know, take a sign, don’t get into shouting, take, take, take your six feet. If you can, if you get started being crowded down, you can’t, and you can’t avoid getting crowded down. I’d probably avoid that situation. I probably wouldn’t, you know, I’d probably say, okay, you know, I’ve had my say, I’m on, I’m off where I, I I’d move around into a different area where I had more space. I could still, you know, do you might say, say my thing and do my, do my thing. Uh, bring hand sanitizers. Cause you’re going to want to shake hands. You’re going to want to touch your face. You’re going to be hot. Uh, bring, bring, uh, if you’re going to wear a mask to make sure you, uh, use, uh, use, uh, a good SPF, uh, on your, on your skin, because you don’t want to get skin cancer, but also you don’t also don’t want to get what they call a mask. You don’t look like you’ve gone 10 line. Yeah. The mask rings. You don’t want that. And if you’re having, if you’re having trouble with your math, you know, you’re getting a lot of people are getting what they call Mac Mackney, you know, we got a little bit acne coming up from there. Uh, uh, if you’re a woman don’t use, uh, oily, oily cosmetics, if you can avoid it. And if you’re man or women, uh, try to use, uh, try to avoid synthetic fabrics, a lot of these fancy synthetic fabrics, aren’t, aren’t nearly as breathable. And then they cause a lot of, uh, irritation to your skin. More, more so than you’d think. And unfortunately, I think we’re going to be with a mass situation for over a year really well. So, and I guess so there’s, I guess there’s a good question. We touched on this a little bit last time, but it was still pretty early in the game and the weather hadn’t changed as much has anything further come out. I mean, cause you know, so it was nice and cool yesterday and today we’re going to be climbing up into the nineties for the next three days. Has there been any more data that you’re aware of? That’s come out about how, you know, Hey, the flu goes away when it gets warm. So I mean, you know, has there been anything more discovered about that in relation to the weather or with this in relation to the weather? So they are doing really fancy studies now to look at all sorts of modeling, uh, around the weather. And um, so, uh, originally we thought over 77 degrees Fahrenheit was going to be a better period of time than under 77. We thought 77 was a special number. That was the, who was the original number with the temperature humidity makes a big difference. Cause the virus doesn’t travel as far and human weather as it does. You know, if you cough cause the is have, yeah, it makes sense trapped in the moisture of the air. So it actually reduces the amount of distance almost to a foot instead of 16. Yeah. But I’m, I’m not a fan of humidity, but I guess it serves a purpose when you actually do the, the numbers. Um, it turns out that the biggest factor is how many susceptible people you’ve got out there. You’ve got a lot of people who are susceptible and this is a novel layer. So most of us are still susceptible. Then that’s going to overwhelm almost any other factor in the models that we’re creating. Gotcha. Once you start to get, you know, close to her immunity and you start to get a weather impact, then you’re starting to get there. Then you’d have some opportunity. But right now we think it’s about 0.05 are. So it was just a little bit, the amount of transmission that’s our best guess. Right. So like, you know, the, I guess, you know, the, the parties you saw, like in the Ozarks, you know, in that kind of stuff where you had hundreds, I mean, yeah, granted it was nice and hot outside, but you had hundreds of people gathering around the pools and that kind of stuff and just going crazy. Yeah. Granted, most of them were young, but still, probably not the best idea. No, no, that, that, that’s a real superstar of it. He goes, the problem is then you go and visit grandma. Right, right. Or the neighborhood let’s go. And then, then you, then you go to the nursing home and then you, then you have a big belt. Yeah. Those are super spreader events. Uh, and we’ll, we’ll probably, usually you can see what’s interesting is our, our testing technology is pretty sensitive now and you can see that the effect of our, of those little events. So I, uh, we, we had our, uh, you know, when people were getting Nancy and they, they, they went and they demonstrated it at the, uh, uh, at the blood chasers. Let’s, we’re going to open up now, but believe it or not, a day later, we actually could see, uh, you know, it took about two or three days for that, that, that, that to sort of push back down again. Uh, so those, those events do, do make a slight difference. Uh, now there were lots of other people out there. So that was, it was, it was the first nice day of the spring. So there were a lot of people that do out and about, I just remember it cause of that day that, uh, there are some events that can really make a difference. For example, they shut down Korea. Now Korea has a different philosophy about, about the three different philosophies that government can have basically about what they want to do with coronavirus. Right? The first is they want to, um, they, they want to contain the virus. And so Korea, Taiwan, China, those guys are actually trying to contain virus, which means if you get, if you get exposed, you know, you’re supposed to quarantine immediately supposed to announce all the contacts you’ve had. They’ve got electronic medical, they got electronic records in Israel looking actually you go find where you’ve been, who you’ve been with and announced to everybody, you know, this person is ill. So be careful. Well, um, and then there’s suppression, which we’re doing in most of the States. And there’s some who just like Sweden, who were saying, you know, we’re just going to let it go, let it rip, see what happens. Uh, so those are the three different processes when Korea who was trying to actually contain the virus, had that one guy. Remember that one guy who found out two days later after they opened up, you went to three big nightclubs. They shut down the whole country for a few days. So, so the cause they’re trying to avoid those super spreader events. Uh, so that, that’s a, that’s a sort of a different philosophy, but that’s what happens in those safe hunters yet. I was going to say, so kind of, so like, you know, the like New Zealand, you know, kind of did the same thing and they just made the big announcement today. Hey, life is back to normal as of today. No more social distancing rules, no more, any of that stuff, I guess like what, what did they do that was so different from us other than they’re way, way smaller, but we can’t get there so easily. They’re way down there. I mean, that didn’t really help Manhattan. We got bridges, New Zealand. So yes. So what New Zealand did is they made a couple mistakes early on, but they very quickly decided we’re going to go with containment. We’re going to not allow anyone on the Island or off the Island period. And they’re still not letting anyone off or off the Island. You have to come in from Australia being in Australia and even come on in New Zealand. So,

What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? This is the it and the D show episode 351. We are still in quarantine, even though we're slowly getting back into business, cheers to all the bars and restaurants that got to open up today. A guest this week of the illustrious one, mr. Fred Brown. He was on about a month ago, actually. What about a month and a half ago? Right? When everything started breaking kind of educating us on COVID and what a better time to bring them back then, uh, cause all the madness going on right now with the doubts and misinformation and all this other stuff.     Oh. And let's not forget all the bars and restaurants reopening and everybody believing it's bar crawl day. Yeah. Let's not forget. Yeah. Hockey glass will save us all here to clear up all the madness and Dave, you know what you may fire when ready. All right. Yeah. And Fred, since the last time, uh, we've decided we're not playing the intro, uh, during these video sessions. So we're not going to make you suffer through that again. Okay. It was very inspiring. Welcome. And thank you for hanging out with us. This is the it, and the D show we are hanging out, uh, in our respective houses for the time being, this is episode three 51. This is Bob, the sales guy that is Dave, the geek, Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter, find it online it and the d.com and do us a favor, give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. And uh, yeah. So this is usually where we talk about the events and we have not put any back on the calendar just yet. Uh, but now that things are starting to open up, we will be looking at doing so. Um, I know our buddy Neil was at, uh, where we were supposed to be having our first event that got canceled Del Ray cozy lounge. Uh, so we'll be reaching out to them and seeing how things are going and maybe go back there. Uh, and then we'll work on the Anarbor events as well. But yeah, so it's a, they're they're, they're coming soon and, uh, and, and, and look, and look and listen to, I listened to Bob with his, uh, with his new microphone. Sounded all good and stuff. Yeah. I'm not all that. It doesn't sound like I'm in the toilet. If you're not watching the show. I think I got an idea for our next event that we should all wear, like those kitty life preservers and like all handout, like, uh, so, so we have this, see the distance like around our waists. Oh, you mean like the hip waders? Yes. Yeah, exactly. Like this, just like you slide them over your head, like life preservers. And I was like, what's that going to hit? Not like a hospital, a we'll we'll do the whole thing. We'll where the, uh, the face shields with the windshield wiper, the big Brown thing around our waist life preservers. I think we, uh, we need the giant burger King hats, the giant burger King crowns from Germany. We need to find our way to get our hands on those, but Hey, a Fred's already getting a patient where we are. If you didn't hear the pre-roll, we're very, very lucky to have mr. Fred Brown back with us. Uh, I would consider how do we introduce you politely without a, uh, I guess you are all things, um, I guess why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself before I stick my foot in my mouth any further? Oh, well, I, I work a little bit in epidemiology and infectious disease. I've done. Gosh, I, I started doing the work back in 1985. We, uh, I was on the team that discovered the first and then developed the first AIDS test, uh, for HIV, uh, detecting HIV. And unfortunately at the time we, uh, had a test, but we didn't have any cure as a little bit similar to what we have with Qubit right now. But, uh, you know, HIV is at that point was really a deadly, you know, much more deadly than, than, than it is. And so most people after we developed the test didn't want one. And so what we did is we actually developed it for the blood serum and we can't,

Hey, welcome to the one and only IT in the D show. This is episode 349 happy Memorial day to everybody listening. Hopefully you didn’t give him a moment of silence today to all the men and women that have made the ultimate price and certainly our freedoms appreciate it. Um, it is because of people like you that we can be the self-entitled jerk wads that we are and we need, we appreciate from our homes. I think this is what our 10th or eighth edition of a foreign team, uh, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. This is, I’m a, if you don’t know me, I’m Bob the sales guy that’s named the geek. I do. The Twitters is doing the Twitter’s. You can find us online at [inaudible] dot com do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere fine podcasts are sold…       except for podcast addict cause apparently just took them off. Yeah, they got, they got pulled back. Oh, they’re back now. Yeah. But, uh, and as per usual, this is usually the part of the show where we talk about our upcoming events and we ain’t gotten an a in can. In fact, I actually just canceled the, uh, the Facebook listing for the Anarbor event cause that was still on the agenda. Um, yeah, because our governor just extended our stay home, stay safe again until June 12th. Yeah, exactly. So everybody in Trevor city shout out to all my friends up there. No kidding. Travers city is packed. Well, and then they did, apparently they had, um, a couple of people that showed up, uh, positive. Um, obviously they didn’t catch it there, like I said, a couple. Um, and so they showed up. Uh, I guess they, you know, they went up and had it and just, you know, developed worse symptoms while they were there. So yay. You know, I think we all were kind of expecting those kinds of stories. Um, but yeah, I mean it’s, and it was, uh huh. Well, yeah, no, I mean we’ll see more, I’m sure. Uh, but yeah, I mean it’s, you know, things got relaxed a little bit. You can have gatherings of 10 or more, you know, or 10 or fewer. Sorry. Um, and, uh, so yeah, I was, I’ve, I’ve been surprised. Uh, I left the house a couple of times, like just run a couple errands and, uh, yeah, there’s a lot of cops out, so go figure holiday weekend. Uh, and the first time that gatherings are allowed, uh, there’s an awful lot of police on the streets. Well, everyone’s current, you know, like crazy. It’s kind of like, uh, you know, the, the Toga party just opened up. It’s like, you know, like there’s a running like Forrest Gump to get to wherever they need to get to. You know what I mean? We’ve all been cropped up in months, man. Everybody’s going stir crazy. What are you going to do? Um, yeah. I mean, I’m not gonna lie. I’m feeling it too. Yeah, no, I don’t blame you. Um, a couple of interesting things changed this weekend. So we talked last week about my Buddhist legal came back on this weekend or blasted. And so this weekend I’m watching and two things change. Uh, they started piping in cheers and chants, crowd chants, and they basically masked off the crowd the seats with, with advertising. I’m watching it and I go usually use that kind of passively watch. I’m not actively watching. It’s kind of a reading news. It’s, I’m drinking coffee, you know what I mean? It’s like kind of been my Sunday tradition for years and years and years and years and it sounds the same. And I go, wait a minute, there’s like full on chance going on and I look up and sure. Shit, empty arena. So where are they piping it in from? Is it from past games? Is it like, are they like, where are they paddle? I don’t, I don’t know. I would love to, I mean it’s going through the PA speakers. It can’t be coming like, it can’t be coming in remotely from bars. So I got an engineer pushing the cheer button when their team is doing. There was a, a, there was this part like where the ball like dismissed the net. Oh, you heard like it was bizarre. Like interesting. Yeah. It just, just to watch it and be like, wait a minute. Their chin, like when the guy’s doing a throw in and the chance to be kind of pumped up a little bit. Interesting themes down when it’s in play. No, it was uh, it was, it was pretty, you know, and it was clean. It wasn’t awkward. It wasn’t dumb. Yeah. It wasn’t, yeah. It wasn’t like a badly dubbed movie or anything. No, it wasn’t laugh tracks on Brady munch. I saw Mikey posted something earlier where apparently they’re bringing fans back into the WWE. If I read that correctly. This was my call. Like all everyone that’s backstage and crew and shit, I go, why don’t they have them every three seats apart. Gotcha. And so that’s what they’re doing. They’re bringing in anyone that was booked that wasn’t booked for the show. Um, we’re all backstage, all the ring crew, all, all the truck drivers, basically, you know, anyone, you know, sitting in three seats apart and letting them holler, um, which I’m completely fine with. Um, no, it makes sense. Here’s a weird thing. Um, somebody posted, so the wrestling events that their cup that are toying, the idea of putting ice hockey plexiglass in front of the crowd, I mean you got that fake punch spray coming in your face. So I mean the, you know, I got the guy behind me screaming. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The people that are literally a foot behind you cause you can’t even like sit with your knees straight in front of you in those seats. Right. And then, um, another thing, uh, you know, I’m a huge of a NASCAR. I am just kidding what I saw NASCAR on and I thought it was video game MasterCard. I just kind of wanted to watch it cause it’s weird and it was actually live car racing, so I was like, that was empty arena. Um, but I’m like, okay. You know. So I’m curious like, so the pit crews, like were they all mashed up? Were they good? I didn’t want to watch it. That was enough that I just go, okay, no crowd item should, should have taken one for the team and kept watching Bob. But uh, no. So that will, I guess, speaking of cars, I mean I guess the uh, the dream cruise, um, is officially canceled, uh, officially canceled. Whether or not it’s, there’s still going to be a shit ton of cars on Woodward is, is still remains to be seen. But yeah, I got it. I got a theory that it’s going to be the, probably one of the bigger ones we’ve ever seen, but you just not going to get the people in the lawn chairs and the Boulevard people in their cars driving back and forth. Yeah. Stop the driving of the cars, but all the supplementary events and all the cities along Woodward are definitely off. Well, yeah, because all the bars and restaurants are closed and all that stuff. So yeah, I was on YouTube going around and it was some video of Karen stops, little boy’s hot rod party, like 5 million views and it’s a week old and I’ll go put it on. Apparently it was in Texas, this little kid, his birthday, he wanted a hotline for murder. He’s like 10 years old or whatever and every this hot rod loves it. All right, we’ll take a lap through your neighborhood and rev up our engines. Well, this one frumpy short hair lady gets in front of the entire recession. Stop. I said four cop cars, come screaming in, sirens blaring, and then find out what’s going on. So basically they apologize. What was she doing? Like the Tiananmen square tank guy like, yeah, so they have a, so they have a part due, um, this past weekend and literally everyone in the entire neighborhood is actually really awesome to watch. Drove across her lawn. Everyone came out of their house. There was like everyone, like everyone’s family. We went on the front lawn or like sit in the driveway and it was just like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of peoples, you know, I mean, in their own house. That’s very cool. Watch it. Yeah. And then people brought out Lamborghinis and they weren’t doing anything illegal. They’re just revving up their engines. These two videos were like 7 million people. That’s crazy. Well, and I mean, and that’s the thing. I mean like, you know, you and I, you know, we both had our birthdays, you know, during this nonsense and I don’t, you know, okay, fine. We didn’t get one bar night, you know, hanging out with the guys. Um, but like for kids that’s, you know, it’s kind of a bigger deal. Like, you know, birthdays still really matter to them and that kind of stuff. And so it does kind of suck for them. Well that’s the one thing like, uh, Gretchen’s really good friends turned 18 and she’s like, I can’t miss it. I’m like, go like, she has like two friends over this. Yeah, you can’t, how are you going to miss that? She turned 16 in June, so it’s like we got it, we’re talking today. What are we doing now? True. Well, and then the other thing that got canceled as a theater bizarre. Yeah. Well you had, you figured they had to because they got to start building that set like now and that things like year long thing. So yeah, that got canceled. And then here’s the weird one. Um, I had a ministry cam at the M tickets in July and I craft work tickets in July and Kraftwerk just said it was postpone at the Masonic but ministry, uh, I got an email saying your tickets have been reissued for April 21st, 2021 I had to do a triple take. I’m like April already passed. I go Holy shit next year. And I’m like, alright, whatever. I’ll put that on the calendar next year. Looking forward to that. I mean I thought July was far away to go to this concert. I think I bought the tickets in January. Um, dude, did you see that? I just sent it today cause it just leaked. But the episode nine, the dual, the fades concept art. Yeah. Not only the concept art but the actual storyline story got released and they’re basically saying, okay, would you rather have seen this version? And they were showing like basically it was Kyla went and got trained. It was in a clone Wars when Anaconda was in that weird force, like a alternate universe. I don’t know if you remember that one. Weird like, so it was like Tyler, when you learn how to pull souls or pull a light forces, um, Ray went more like y’all black, like return to the Jedi. Luke is a double sided double side. Um, blue, blue double ended. But like the whole story was different and I don’t know if it would’ve made it better or worse, like at the end, basically what happened was, uh, Kylo tried to kill her kill Ray by pulling all their light for us and in between he like caught himself that he like had love for her, so he gave her back, which killed him, but then it gave Ray dark side. So then like, you know, and then it was supposed to end with, um, Ray opening up a Jedi thing with the broom boy from eight. So like, it was insanely different movie. They were supposed to go to chorus, um, in chorus that was like layered, like, or enrich like they were building on top of it. They showed you that in the prequels and I’m blanking. Uh, whatever the guy from taken. Um, yeah, they were on, yeah, when they went into the bar where the guy was smoking joints and like offered [inaudible] they showed like that whole layering thing and when, uh, yeah, the assassination attempt on pad may and that was on, but they showed you all the different levels and that featured really heavily in the clone Wars cartoons too, so. Yeah. But if you, uh, if you get a chance, you know, and then they split off like pole and Finn split off, then Rose, you know what I mean? Like it was all like, it was basically two different movies. Um, I don’t know. It didn’t look like it was you could make, you could make that and I’d be fine with it. I’d watch it again, like make the remake, do me a favor. Do it. Did you, um, speaking of that, did you see the redo of the episode four, scene 38? I wanna say it was the, uh, obiwan Darth Vader when obiwan died and someone went in and like, here’s the thing, um, George Lucas, I know you’re listening. You gave us a remake, like adding like little aliens, like with eating. Yeah. Nobody, nobody needed an extra Duback. Nobody. Nobody needed that. Nobody needed, yeah. Like this with this guy, with what? No budget was like, Oh my God, that was good. Like, I don’t know what you thought. Oh dude. I mean, just, I mean, visually amazing. And that’s one of the things, I mean, you look at, well, I mean, and the other thing to keep in mind is, okay, so the special additions came out in 96 and so, you know, you’ve got 23 years since then, you know, I mean, you know, granted they were running everything on SGI machines and all that kind of stuff. I mean, they had some horsepower, but I mean, the technology has gotten so much better now. I mean, God, I mean there’s this shit you can, I mean, you can film a movie and make a movie on your phone now. Um, you know, so look any worse, no. Lay a CGI and target worse than that. No. And it won’t. God, I mean the Tarkin CGI, I still cringe over, but the lay one, I think they did a great job on, um, but yeah, no, absolutely. Uh, think you’re, the problem was they did like the rogue one Bader with the red saber. That was like, I was cool with it, but it’s like, all right, it’s been done. But everything else, man, I mean, considering it was a one man job, that kid knocked it out of the park. I’m assuming it’s a kid. If you haven’t seen an episode, uh, episode four, scene 38 visited. Um, Oh my God, it was good. So are you, uh, you waiting on anything to be delivered currently? Oh God. Mad about it though. Um, well, so it’s funny. So like, I, you know what I’m saying? I got the extra like corner piece, uh, for the bar and that kind of stuff that I’ve been setting up. Um, and so, uh, so I think it was Thursday, uh, I ordered three straight pieces too to fill in the, fill in the gaps and add some extra shelf space and all. So the three straight pieces were all in one shipment, one got delivered Thursday, the entire order still says out for delivery. So I have no idea where the hell those other two pieces are. Um, and apparently the Oak park distribution center for FedEx is just a disaster area. Like it, it’s just, it’s apparently completely chaotic. Um, people have been waiting, you know, weeks if not more than a month, uh, for things to come out of there. They’ve, you know, basically, you know, people have like gone there to try to pick up their packages and been told that they can’t, uh, but unloaded yet. So they have no idea. They know the packages on what truck, but you know, 400 other packages are there too. So you can’t be mad about it though. You know what’s going on. Oh yeah, no, dude, it’s like my, I did my shit. I’m not, when it gets here, it gets here. It’s, you know, things I’ll screw around with. But I mean that kind of dovetails with one of the other stories that a lot of the eCommerce sites are seeing a huge spike in business on quote unquote quote unquote nonessential items. Giving crap away. Yeah. I bought, um, you know, I had to buy it, I got to buy all new shorts. Right. Basically all my shorts except for like two pair or like fall off me. You know what I mean? Cited by new shorts. Um, do everywhere is getting them away for like 10, $11. Like these really nice golf, uh, Walter Hagen golf shirts I bought for like 11 bucks from dicks. Like I’m not going to not buy those. Yeah. Those are not essential. Yeah. And when they, when they get here, they get here. Who cares? Yeah. Yeah. And I got my smokey and the bandit Funko pop. Beautiful. Hey, speaking of which, did you see the uh, nice. Nice. Yeah. Oh, he’s even in the car. That’s fantastic. Um, speaking of which, you know, related, cause it’s Burt Reynolds, did you see the, uh, the Cannonball run records have been decimated over the course of the past three weeks. So in order to do it though, don’t you don’t, you have to average like 138. So they were saying some of these States, uh, they’re averaging 120, 130 miles an hour through. Um, and the previous record I believe was 29 hours, if I recall correctly. And it’s coast to coast. So I mean it’s 12, 29 hours to go, you know, 2000 odd miles. Um, and apparently the new record is just over 25 hours. Um, you know, because there’s nobody on the roads, there’s nobody around. And so now there’s this whole, you know, Oh it doesn’t really count cause it’s not normal traffic conditions and all that kind of crap. Is it just because you hit a home run because it’s windy, does it mean it ain’t a hole? Exactly. And you know, so they’re talking about how, you know, these cars are, you know, all loaded up with like Marine tanks of extra gas so they don’t have to stop. And just it was an, and one of the things in the story was that apparently they’ve been working on a reboot of course. Um, and, and we’ve talked about this a few times, like, you know, who would you want to see in the, you know, in the reboot of a Cannonball run. Uh, but yeah, no, I mean it’s, it, it was just interesting to see like, you know, the average and that kind of crap that they were getting across the country. It’s just freaking insane. Then you got to where I want you to bring a milk jug or have a stadium pal scrap. Yeah, exactly. Of course. You know, based on what I’ve seen on 94 and six 96 the past couple of weeks, that doesn’t surprise me at all that people are driving that fast. No kidding. They’re nuts. Seriously. They’re nuts. Oh my God, dude, I’ve never laughed so hard. I swear to God, I think my wife thinks there’s something chemically wrong with me sometimes she’s, sometimes there’s the drug commercials. It’s already stupid. She’s in the medical field now. He’s asked her like, do people come up to you going can I have Zoloft cause I saw commercial dancing like I go, that doesn’t work, doesn’t it? Like you’re going to prescribe what they need, not what they see on TV. We’ll share and shit. There’s a, is it called talions or something? It’s diabetes and the only reason I stopped some reading or whatever while this was going on, there’s a woman in the middle of a, like a football field, little marching band, and they’re like, side effects may include a fetal fungal infection of the parent Niamh and then on the bottom bottom they have a written description. The parody of is the area between the genitals and the anus. So you don’t have diabetes anymore, but now you got tantrums fungus, you take a pill that stops the beat as you like. That’s what of those like I want to see. I want to know what the correlation there is. Like what, what is it doing to you? What is it doing to your body chemistry that cures diabetes but gives you taint fungus. But then the ladies in a marching band on a football field, you catches up football. I can talk about it like, what the hell? Like I’m living a normal life again. I want boardroom going. Okay. There’s an advertisement to see that I had to write this type graph. Yeah. The glorious life of an advertising copywriter. That’s, that’s what that is. That’s, yeah, that’s, that’s just phenomenal. It reminds me when we went to birthing classes and they were like, they were talking about ripping the paradigm, and I used to be really loud. I’m like, Oh, it used to be, is that the Gucci kicked under the table? I’m looking for the medically accurate definition. Yeah. So speaking of, uh, the Gooch, um, and segue, uh, mr Joe, mr Joe Rogan’s getting paid. Hey dude, uh, again, goals. You know, just like when, uh, when it got announced that Gimlet got bought for $237 million, uh, yeah. So Rogan just signed a hundred million dollar deal, uh, with Spotify, which, I mean, think about it. It’s, you know, it, I get it. You know, it’s, I think Spotify is trying to, Spotify is trying to be what Sirius XM became when stern went there. Um, you know, it’s, you know, so I get it. So they basically, there’s, so there’s an article that came up and did the math, and we’ll talk about more math in a minute, but they were saying like, um, stern was making 90 million a year from Sirius XM. They’re basically said Rogan probably left 300, 400 million on the table, 500 million on the table by doing it this way, he’s going exclusive, so he’s going to lose listenership and viewership because after the end of the year, his stuff won’t be available as full episodes on YouTube anymore. You know what? I bet. I bet he won’t YouTube what’s up? He gets to keep YouTube clips. I saw it, but not the full episodes anymore. Oh, I mean, nobody was watching him for four hours on YouTube and I’m not going to switch podcast apps for one podcast that people will, I mean, a lot, dude. I mean a lot of people said, Oh, I’m never getting satellite radio. And then all of a sudden, Oh shit, stern went there. Guests, guests, I’m getting satellite radio. Yeah. And I guess this guy, Brittany wrote this article on super cast and said, you just basically buy Rogan’s numbers. He was estimating, he makes, what, 60 million a year? I read. Well, and I, and I, you know, honestly, and that’s the thing. I mean, I get it and they’re talking like, you know, leaving money on the table and that kind of shit. But I mean, at some point in time, dude, if you’re getting a hundred million dollars, does it matter that you’re leaving maybe another hundred out there? Do you care? Do you jump to 3 billion went insane within the first 24 hours of that announcement? So, I mean, that’s, that’s the thing. I mean, it’s, you know, I don’t, I, well obviously I don’t blame them. Um, you know, and it takes away all the headaches and hassles of having to worry about ad sales and all that crap on his own or his own staff and that kind of shit. Just let them do it. Why not? Right. I know. Anyways, congratulations to Rogan. I guess it’s a big step. Yeah dude. Cheers. Even though we hate you cause you keep stealing all of our ideas. But cool. Well after this goes through, is he still a podcast? Yes, it is still a podcast. I saw that debate and it’s, and it’s one of those, you know, Oh it’s going to be openly available on, you know, via an RSS feed. And I mean in technically speaking it is, it’s just only going to one destination. I mean it’s no different than, um, so like the businesses that record with us and only distribute their stuff over their own internal RSS feeds. Is that a podcast? Cause it’s not publicly available. Yeah, it’s still a podcast. Their own staff listens to it. Who gives a shit what stern is or what, what Rogan is. It’s a talk show and we listened to it. It’s, you know what I mean? Does it matter when it’s labeled? He called, he called this shit. I’m just saying, speaking of which, Dave, I know, you know, everyone’s going stir crazy being crept up in the house. It’s become, I’m starting to get the calculator out because it’s math season. Um, and I’m starting to get, I’m starting to get wet season math season. You know, one of my favorite things to do ever is one of these memes that has bad math. And I like to correct people. I don’t correct people’s English. I correct their math. That’s what I’ve been doing this since the internet started. Um, my latest one is for only 3% of the military’s budget. We can end world hunger. So I went out and said, okay, I gotta do the math. And basically there’s a 3% of the military’s budget is about $36 billion, if I remember. And there’s what, 5.575 point 7 billion or no, I’m sorry, seven point something billion people on the backward, 7.5 billion people on the earth work. The math worked out to $3 and 77 but, okay, so, but you’re doing, you’re doing a global application. Okay. So not all, not all 7 billion people are suffering from hunger, you know, so I mean, you’ve, you’ve got to do that. So then they get $30 I’m just saying you can add two zeros, $300 it’s still about ending anything. Yeah. You know, you get to, someone gets to eat good for a little bit. They get a, they get a couple of weeks of their groceries covered. That’s, yeah. One week, you know, or whatever. I don’t care what you’re, yeah. If you’re on, let’s see, you can get, yeah, whatever. And then the other one was, um, Oh my God, you’ve been driving me nuts. Oh, if we liquidate all the billionaire or no, if we take all the billionaires money in the U S we can get healthcare and we can get all our stuff forever. Because billionaires keep all their money in cash, like Scrooge McDuck, Scrooge McDuck vault, and, and underneath mattresses in the Stevens account making 0.25% they sleep on it. That’s what they do. They sleep on it and you can just check it out of the bank. Then we can get all our stuff. People don’t, I don’t think people understand what net worth actually means. I really don’t. I mean like, you know, every building downtown is worth whatever million dollars and unless someone owns it and they’re worth that much money, so you know, so you got to liquidate and get Casper. You don’t get cash for that shit. Anyway, dude speaking to downtown, I got to shoot it to you if you haven’t seen it yet. Apparently there’s some new loft, um, uh, like studio loft thing that got built just off of Eastern market. And don’t get me wrong, it’s beautiful and everything. Asking price is 1.6 million. We’re out big of a lot. Um, I mean it’s good size, but it’s one point $6 million right off each of the market every once in a while through real estate just to see what’s going on. I’m a real estate stupid right now, especially downtown. Oh yeah. And then like in the, in the West end, um, Oh my God, is it like, I think there were like $700,000 for like a two bedroom in the West end. Um, the ones in Royal Oak that started at like 300,000. Those are five right now. Yeah, I remember those. Yeah. Um, it’s just, it’s not even, it’s, it’s, it’s stupid how much, uh, how ridiculous prices got. Yeah. I don’t, I, yeah, I mean that’s one of those things where I’m like, Hey, you know what, if you’ve got it and you want to burn it more power to you, um, you know, with all the churn that’s going on in Royal Oak or those things even going to be worth that. Who knows. I’m gonna get, speaking of dumb things, did you, uh, have you seen the health director of LA, the photos of her dude? She is the unhealthiest looking person I’ve ever seen in my life. She looks like the guy from Poltergeist two. I saw the one from a man in black with a puppy or the dog, whatever. He’s like a street vendor or due to Jesus. What was it like? Like cocoon? Like what? Like one of the things that came out of there. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Here’s the, here’s where it gets funny. Somebody put this on their Facebook feed and it basically got marked as false information checked by fact checkers. So it’s like, Oh my God, they fact-checked it opinion cause someone put the health director of LA as the most unhealthy looking for it and it got marked as a false information. See why and it blanked up a photo. Like if it was like if it was something of Gore, you know what I mean? When they usually say like click to see photo. So did like, was that because somebody randomly marked it as fake or because Facebook was going through and marked it as fate like that checked by independent fact checkers. See why you could click see why I’m assuming this was some algorithm gone wrong that sent it to fact checkers in the first place. Right. But then like of course the first comment is low mile, they fact checked and opinion. I’m sorry, did you pronounce it Lamar? I totally did. He did. Uh, who you know, the uh, the singer of the theme from neverending story, uh, used to be a member of, uh, the lead singer for Casha Gugu that’s pronounced a little bow. What are you supposed to say? L M a L laughing my ass off. It was only the first, the L was capital, then it was under case. So that’s a word or apparently it’s L apostrophe Mao. It’s Lamar. It’s French. By the way. I found my new super sweet 16 show. Hold it, keep talking. I, I’m, I’m watching one of my blended shows and the whole show that we’re ripping on the show on TLC called Dave. And did Randy, have you seen this? No, it’s not my type of show at all. I find out I’ve never heard of it and I come to find out there’s like five scenes of this crap. Um, and they’re, at least they’re the children I was watching. They were making fun of this guy who, uh, do you remember He-Man? He looked like Ram man. God, the man had eaten like this, like no net. Like literally like I can’t even just like, and these are, so what they basically did is they followed like eight people who met someone online and most of them were like out of the country. I decided that when you, when you had that topic, I’m bringing in an expert. So this, this, this, this is Lauren from the new show and the network called trash pandas all about trash TV. And my name is Lauren Walker and I love rap and and so they’ve been talking about 90 day fiance for the last two weeks. Oh my God. [inaudible] and watch two episodes. I watched the one guy basically the one guy with no neck with like the 22 year old. Yeah. I don’t even know how he buys dress shirts the whole show. Well so let me, let me, let, let me paint the picture. So there’s, so for those like me who have never seen it, so what is the premise? What, what is 90 day fiance? People that have met online? Lord, correct me if I’m wrong, people that have met online that are like going to get married I guess within 90 days, right? Those 90 days. But they’re always there from so many different country. Like there was a guy from Vegas, like a 60 year old guy was some shit from the Ukraine or Russia. When I hear a fiance, I think like those mail order bride and they have like fiance, fiance visas and that kind of stuff. You know what, in the first couple of seasons they didn’t really have that. There’s more than one season. Oh yes. Yeah. Oh yes. There are so many seasons. Yeah. Well that’s the thing is that there are about seven different 90 day fiance spin-offs. We have like 90 day fiance, which is uh, Americans that bring their significant other that they met online to America on a K one visa, which means they have to be married within 90 days. Otherwise they have to return to their home country. But then we also have native fiance the other way before the 90 days just landed. There are so many other ones. And I’m sorry. Hello talk, there is pillow talk too and there’s also a 90 day Beyonce what now? And I have a Beyonce. Um, there’s so many, like there’s the one that was hilarious. So there’s a 60 year old guy from Vegas with this, like really pretty Ukraine, Russian, whatever. Yeah. They’ve been talking for, Oh my God. You know, their names are still pathetic. Um, they, they’ve been talking for seven years and she finally gives them some of the address to go meet her and it’s some old Russian guy and he’s like, I don’t speak Russian. And he’s like, the guy’s dumbfounded that he like you said this wrong apartment. But then like he went, he met her for real. Like it’s some town square like I totally, I’m fast forwarding through it, I’m not watching it. And I’m like, Oh my God. He ended up really beating her and he’s like trying to hug her and her arms are at her side like that. Like, like I’m not hugging you. Oh yeah, she’s very standoffish. They go for like a bowling dates and he’s like, if I get a strike he says, first of all he starts it off by saying that he was a competitive bowler and he’s like, if I get a strike then you have to kiss me. And he is just like getting like one pin down. He rolls a gutter ball like, so my question is, she speaks 0.0 English. How did they talk for seven years online? They do it through an app where, or like a website where they like have people that translate it and then send it for you and he has to pay for every message he sends to her. So you don’t remember back in the day on the AFT company message boards, there was a guy who posted, um, my journey of finding a Russian wife and he started off on one of these websites and it was, it was like he had to, um, like you would, you would pay, uh, to send a message, um, and there would be a translator on the other side that would translate it for them and then they would write a message, um, and it would get translated, you know, translated and then sent to you. Um, and like, you know, when you took a trip, he actually, I think, if I recall correctly, why don’t, I’m taking like four trips over there, um, and went through this entire process. And it was, it was, it was hilarious to watch how it’s so bizarre though. Lauren, how do you fall in love with like that? Like I don’t, like, I obviously I know the answer. Would you fall in love with the idea of, yeah, I mean there are so many scammers out there and there’s people out there that just really are craving love and they just want somebody to understand them and love them the way that they think that they need to be loved. And it’s like they will convince themselves that these are real people. The one, the one, the guy with no neck, he’s like, he was in love with like a 22 year old 90 pound Filipino girl who the sisters hitting him up for money. And I’m like, he’s like, I don’t know what to do. It was pretty insulting to her though. Like she ends up like leaving him and, and he, okay. So he actually gifts her like mouthwash and toothpaste, like your breath is really bad. So like flowers and candy just don’t apply in these rules apparently because they probably don’t have dentistry where she lives. Um, but Lauren, here’s the thing. Let’s say I meet you online and I, we fly in a Bora Bora and like I pull out my suitcase going, I got you a gift and it’s like purple, like, like a, like a, like a trash, like something from like, uh, one of the sex shops. Like it smells like cheap, like purple, like lovers lane, whatever. I want to try to be like trash. Like it was so bad. Like you’re seriously worse. Well the fact that he starts off telling her that he’s five, four, which is actually taller than he really is. And then it turns out he’s like four, 1130 neck. He looks like a thumb thumb walking around. But he, he like, it’s just so insulting to her. It’s like I would never, if some guy was like, Hey, I just met you for the first time, now you’re going to stay in my hotel room with me and blah blah blah. Just because we’ve been talking online for X amount of months or years. Like, no dude, you get two rooms. Exactly. Like I don’t understand any of it. Like in that one guy, um, who was clearly gay with the Russia, uh, Jeffrey and Baria see, you know the names. Oh my God, do it again. They’ve spent the last two weeks dissecting the show and here’s the, here’s the funny part I got, honestly, I assumed you started watching it because you caught like one of their episodes or something like, and Crowder was rag. I’m guy. I’m like, I wrote, here’s the best part. Like I don’t think I watched like a mid episode and like the latest one, like the Russian girls surprises him so that I want to fly to Knoxville and see what happens and like, Oh, I got my wife roped in and she’s like, Oh, come on, come on, play the next one. I’m like, these shows, what channel is this on? I’m going to have to check it out. Here’s the thing. There’s no reality. You know, the producers are writing the scripts for this. Sure. I, from what I understand, they actually like a thing where it’s like when they’re actually a scouting out for people, they say, are you dating somebody online? Do you want to go visit them and do you have something that you haven’t told them that you really should like a big secret that you need to rebuild, reveal, you know, that it’s like something that they all are going in there with some sort of situational, well she doesn’t know that I’m still married or she doesn’t know that I am not who I said I was or you. I mean it took me like five minutes to go like, Oh, it’s just people trying to scam other people out of money. Like how do you not see this? Like everyone on there really quickly. Like, okay, so the first couple of seasons it wasn’t like that. It was all people who have like seen each other on video. They’ve like had pictures, you know, they, they actually go and have like these people meet them here. Like there were actual people. Um, the first time that I remember them bringing on like a catfish I think was last year with a guy named Caesar and he had a girl that he was trying to like bring to trying to meet and he went to meet her multiple times and she would never show up just like Lorna and David would never show up. She would always have some kind of excuse and it’s like dude your hands up telling everybody that he’s sending her $800 a week. Well wasn’t the one where the kids know that the kids did like a reverse image search and he was like photo. Yep. Yolanda and Williams and that was, that was the entire thing was like she kept on saying I’m going to meet this guy. He was sending her information to like fly in to where he lives and she’s like that’s not the airport closest to where you said you live. Like he says he’s from like the UK and when she talks to him he sounds like he’s Nigerian. Like, it’s, it doesn’t, you know, it’s like, come on, there’s some like pretty big red flags that are letting you know that this person is not a real person. God, that’d be like, if you’re not, you’re a Nigerian scammer and all the jobs you can have and the one you have is like cat fishing. All of them fall forward though. It’s so, I feel so bad for people cause I mean it’s just getting their hearts just cry. It’s hard enough. Dealing with heartbreak is alone, let alone like that. Cause you have these holes, right. But by the time you probably meet this person, you’re already like, you’re on your third kid and your fourth vacation home and like, you know what I mean? Like why did your whole life together? Like you don’t see, what are you supposed to do? God, what a, what an awful, awful show and the button come on soon. Alright, so I’m gonna, I’m gonna have to check this out. Like I, so they do a show called trash pandas. It’s Tuesday nights right now. Um, so make sure you check that out. And actually Lauren, while you’re here, there was another topic we were going to talk about that we haven’t brought up yet that you, uh, you should chime in on cause you’re a bartender. Um, I dude, I love the idea that’s being floated through the legislature now about drinking districts, uh, in the state of Michigan. Uh, you know, like that’s one of the things we love. Like whenever we do the cons and stuff down in Toledo, um, I love being able to, you know, take a drink and walk to the next bar with it and that kind of stuff. Um, and they’re trying to, they’re looking at that as a way of helping the bars and restaurants get back up on their feet quickly. Uh, whenever the, you know, the doors open. Um, so I guess like, you know, what’s, what’s your take on it and how do you feel about it? Um, I don’t think it’s a bad idea. I mean, there’s a lot of places where it works and everything. I think we’re a little bit worried. I don’t, I don’t, I’m trying to think like downtown works. Greektown works. Yeah. Saying like just around in general, like you know, if you go down to like new Orleans or something, you can walk down the street with a drinker like open tax but then also like to carry out stuff. You can do that. Yeah. Well they’re all walkable though. Like I’m just talking about like the areas are walkable, like Ferndale, nine mile Ferndale, nine miles from Rosedale green is the Woodward is walkable. Nothing really walking. Well, like I said, like to me, like the first thing that jumped to my mind was Hamtramck. I mean just, you know, all the bars that are so close together. And I would assume it would be situations like that where it’d be like a place where there’s a lot of ours condensed into one area. You know, I don’t think that they would just do it everywhere. Right. Oh, I guess like downtown Rochester, there’s maybe like what, six places you can have a drink. Right. Well, you know, Cass corridor, you know, we’re, you know, we’re DSE is okay, you could grab a drink at DSC and walk over to temple bar or jumbos, you know, or something like that. Well, Ferndale has a lot. Royal Oak has a lot downtown Ann Arbor. You know, like places like that. I could see it being something that’s viable, you know. But if it’s something like just a general area, it’s like I don’t, I wouldn’t be okay with people like driving around with stuff that they can possibly open up and then it comes back on me because of DRAM shop. Oh yeah, no, I, yeah, I don’t, I don’t think they’re talking about drivability. I think it’s, it’s just walking around with it. Yeah. Yeah. Those areas, there’s like, so, so many bars, you know, like why not let them walk around. I mean, you can literally just like spit and hit the bar across the street. Well that is the other related proposal though. A Senate bill nine 38 would allow like take away margaritas or whatever. Like you order a margarita from a bar, go pick it up, bring it home and drink it. Yeah. I think that they have like a thing where it’s like there’s tape on it. Exactly. It’s like, I like that big grenade. Like, you know, right. Big green frog. I like that. Like the Comerica park, like the $30 slushies it has like a half ounce of rum in it. Right? Yeah. The being able to bring, able to bring in a rum drink from there. Yeah. Well then not only that Maryland that’s got like, I think that’s lying to social distancing inner tubes like you have to wear. Those were amazing. And the burger King crowns in Germany I thought were fantastic. Oh, it’s literally, it’s the burger King crown, but it’s got like a six, like a three foot, it’s a six foot diameter, um, around people’s heads to try to teach them social distancing properly. It’s, it’s, absolutely, I think that’s a great idea there it goes. Making out with strangers, man. Well, you know, but that’s the thing, you know, you talk about social distancing, like we talked a little bit about, you know, things opened up this weekend or, and you know, you’ve got, you know, pictures coming in from, you know, Toronto and Texas and everywhere else where there ain’t no social distancing going on at all. And, and, you know, just, okay, now are we just waiting for the other shoe to drop, you know, is, are things going to happen? I, you know, but the other part of it is, you know, one of the things they’ve said all along is like they don’t know if this is going to act like the flu where it kind of goes away when it gets warmer. Um, you know, and so if that’s the case, maybe Texas and Georgia and those kinds of other shit here, you know, over the last couple of days it’s probably been, you know, great for killing this crap off. Um, you know, the rates. Look at the rates down in Texas and Florida. I mean, it’s like almost none. Yeah. Well, they’re flat there. It’s, it’s not. Yeah. I mean they’ve, they haven’t seen a spike the case, the case loads are flat. They haven’t seen a jump like, you know, people were expecting. But like, like I said, I mean that could be, that could be as simple as it got warmer. Who knows? Open them up. Yeah, exactly. All right, well Hey Lauren, before we cut you loose, did you guys create a Facebook page for trashcan as yet or where do people find you? Okay. fuck.com/trash pandas. Perfect. So, um, and then we’re on on Tuesday nights at 10:00 PM. Thanks so much for having me on guys. Hey, I, I as soon as he shot, I was like, I know exactly who to pull in for this conversation cause I got nothing. You know, everything about trash and trending. My um, my, my, yeah, by the way, that show is such shit, such a bag as, as soon as you said it was your new super sweet 60. And I was like, Oh mother of God. Cause I have, I’ve, I’ve listened to them talk about it while they ran the one of the first two shows around. And yeah, like my head was almost exploding listening to the plot lines and the stories they were talking through. And I was like, chief mother of God. I like how reality shows. How about plot line? Well, yeah, seriously. The only thing I thought about was the guy he ran will be here, should be around serious. Hey. So I was a loosely paying attention to the comments. Um, uh, Gary Heitman, uh, screw you, Gary. Uh, he said, Hey, you guys look awful. Uh, my, uh, my kid sister tuned in and asked me what Jersey I’m wearing. Uh, this is the, uh, the, the Tron Jersey. This is a light cycle. It’s got Flynn on the back, uh, you know, from the movie. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, um, my favorite guy that week is the guy that, uh, uh, basically said F you door dash dude. And so this ties into something we’ve talked about in the past where, you know, door dashes basically co-opting or co-opting businesses by, you know, basically saying, Hey, we deliver for this business with no permission from that business. And this guy found his own business listing when people started asking him, Oh, we see you offer delivery now yet Adriana. Um, and so he decided to have a little fun with it. Well, not just one with it, but basically, uh, well they were, uh, he charged $24 for the pizza. Um, it was being listed as 16 bucks by door dash. So he was basically buying his own pizzas to sell back to people for an $8 more profit. He’s like, screw. Um, and I don’t blame them because again, they were uh, um, you know what, what was the word? Oh, um, venture capital’s just small business loans for assholes. Yeah, we should have a bread. Yeah, exactly. A venture capital is not the hand game. And again, we love this shit too. Um, door dash lost 450 million generating 900 million in revenue last year, like you own. And you own nothing like zero. Yeah. Cause yeah, I mean the delivery. So the drivers are paid by us. Um, the food is paid for by us at a markup or, or apparently in some cases at a loss because you’re an idiot and you’re charging improperly for it. Click the fee. There’s three things in the service fee. Um, and then you’re paying the state tax driver. Um, yeah. And they’re losing that much money. Um, to be honest, it’s, it’s, uh, I don’t get it. I’ll never get it. Um, GrubHub lost money. Well, and so, and I wonder, so there was a, one of the articles, I think it was a, that Randy shout out was, uh, the CEO of Spotify or Shopify, Shopify who basically, you know, his, his proclamation was that, uh, the days of being office centric are over. Um, you know, and, and, you know, letting us people work from home forever and that kind of stuff. And I want know, you wonder with some of these business, you know, some of these companies that don’t quote unquote own anything, um, you know, how much of their money is being spent on physical office space and that kind of stuff to, you know, to have people in a central location and can they become profitable if they start with this remote worker motif. And don’t worry about leasing office space and don’t worry about, you know, having that as a cost center and all that kind of stuff. It’s, it’s an issue. I mean it’s interesting question to me. Yeah, well you do great. You’re going to get the next market bubble with the commercial real estate shitting the bed. Well though, and we did, we’ve been talking about it with we work where, you know, basically they said, you know, if we work were to ever truly fail, you know that it would just decimate, you know, entire swaths of, you know, the, the, the real estate market in different cities around the world. If that’s the next bubble then that, I mean it makes more sense than home real estate, you know. Cause if you got others. And here’s the thing, I don’t think, I think we talked about this. I think the last couple of weeks too. People are using this as an excuse to get out of shift. Like I think people are looking at like these crazy leases they’re spending on office space going and this is like their little wake up call and they’re going up bed. We’re out, you know, like, um, I don’t want to spend this crap. I’m going to get out from under this, this stupid loan I signed eight years ago, you know, absolve this debt. You know, how many people are also restructuring all these, you know, I was talking to a Hertz is going out of business. Um, you know, yeah. Enterprises in deep shit. What was it JC penny just filed for bankruptcy? Hertz was $17 billion in debt. Right? So now they’re like basically that just get 17 billion in debt. Get out of here. How do you that company that old, how do you do that? Let me, let me look that up. Cause that’s a, that’s a number. I saw it, but that’s a good question. It seems like they’re trying to get out of these crappy obligations they got themselves into, it seems like they’re not going out of business because their business is bad. They’re going out of business trying to get themselves out of some sheet of healers. I mean, it did. Entirely possible. And I mean, and you know, some of that like, you know, you’ve seen, uh, there’s been a lot of announcements that I’ve seen about, uh, you know, bars and restaurants that have just, you know, decided, Hey, you know, they’ve just shot off notes to their, you know, their their employees in the last week or so. That just said, Hey, as it turns out, no, we’re not going to reopen. Um, you know, and you wonder if some of that is, you know, is, is that as well, you know, is it, Oh, you know, we just realized, Hey, the financial obligation that we took on just, there’s no ROI there. Why, why even bother continuing? What’s according to motor one.com. Hertz is 13.4 billion are vehicle loans and 3.7 billion are corporate bonds. So that’s $17 billion in debt. Wasn’t that money revolved pretty quickly though. As they got out, they buy these cars, then they sit, they rent them for what a year, and then they sell them. They sell them. Yeah. Who knows. Very liquid. It’s not like maybe I’m wrong. Um, they, I mean, cause they’re everywhere globally. Yeah, no, for sure. Um, you know, and this, this kinda, you know, doubling back on the door dash thing. Um, Applebee’s, uh, one of our favorites is pulling some shady shit, uh, where they’ve, uh, basically launched a new brand. Uh, but it’s, it’s still just out of their Applebee’s locations called neighborhood wings. Uh, and so, yeah. And, and so people are ordering, you know, from, you know, they look up on, you know, grub hub or door dash or Rizzo neighborhood wings. Okay. You know, local plays, whatever. Cool. I’ll try to support them. Um, yeah, no, it’s, it’s Applebee’s. It’s, it’s always Applebee’s. It will always be Applebee’s. And yeah, that’s some shady shit right there. Well this is kind of like the story we talked about a few years ago where you had all these virtual restaurants where it was like this one giant industrial kitchen, big house kitchen, a bunch of virtual restaurants for takeout only. No, I’m fine with that. But don’t rebrand your trash. Like if I find out, like if you give me your food, it says Applebee’s on it. That one guy, I’m looking for the tweet and he’s like, if I wanted your trash food, I would have ordered it from you. Ordered from you. Cause yeah, I mean, and that’s the thing. I mean it’s not like, you know, and, and they try to put a spin on it that, you know, we’re trying to offer things that aren’t necessarily on our menu. Dude wings are absolutely on the Applebee’s menu. They absolutely are. And, and, and there’s no, there’s no difference in what’s being sent out under that name. So what are you doing other than trying to deceive people? I mean, why, why, why not just call it not Applebee’s? Like that’s, that’s the new name. It’s not Applebee’s. The shit ass one is chutney cheese. Yes. Called themselves pizza. I guess. Pasquale’s one of the rep animatronic rats that you see in the restaurant. Yeah and dude, I mean like let’s be real. Who in their right mind is getting Chuckie cheese pizza delivered to their house? Like pizza is like this much above that. Like frozen Jack’s pizza for 99 cents just straight up trash I’ve gotten, you know I got little kids, man, I gotta go to Turkey. We’ve all been there. It’s, you don’t go there for the pizza. You just happen to have the pizza because it’s there while you’re there. I was just thankful when they started serving beer. That’s the part about Chuck E cheese these days is the volume is so low. The workers have all had to revolt cause when we were kids remember the lights would go down. Dude that shit was so loud. Like now when you are, you don’t even know the show started. Chucky comes out and it’s like it’s gotta be on like volume. If it’s at one to 10, it’s sound like one, like kids are like, guys are like, no, I don’t care. Like literally I think they’ve all given up and they’ve got, you know, the guy in the, in the rat suit, you know, getting his balls punched every 30 seconds by saying, what a freaking hell. I’m amazed they’ll just still in business by the way, like literally amazing. So I, I do, so, you know, speaking of somebody that’s actually maybe doing something right, uh, you know, we, we, you know, mentioned Netflix and those kinds of places earlier. Um, apparently net and I don’t, I, they said it’s less than one half of 1% of all their accounts that are quote unquote inactive. Um, so apparently if you are, uh, if, if you don’t use Netflix for a year, uh, they’re going to go ahead and, you know, send you an email and say, Hey, would you like to, you know, keep your subscription active even though you haven’t used it? And if they don’t hear from you, they’re just gonna go ahead and finally cancel you. Why is this a, why is this news and B, why are they announcing it? Um, well, I mean, why did they give a shit? So to me this might’ve actually been a almost a, a PR move. Uh, where, you know, cause I mean you think like, Oh well, okay, yeah, you always announce all these numbers of subscribers, how many of them are actually active. So to me the entire point of this article might have just been to say, Hey, less than one half of 1% of our subscriber base is quote unquote inactive us just some good, Hey look what we’re doing. We’re saving people money who didn’t realize they were spending it. You know, there’s still stories of people still paying for like AOL dial up subscriptions, right? They that, you know, they paid 2399 a month for the last 18 years because they didn’t realize they were still paying for it. Dude, I’m not gonna lie man. Like Netflix needs to step their game up or something. Man, these brick and Adam Sandler movies are just, are just utter straights. And like I watched some other movies, my wife there and they call it lovebirds with the guy from Silicon Valley. So I’m, I’m spending more time on Hulu, which, and, and one of the stories, you know, that came across was that apparently they’re redesigning their home screen. Um, but I mean, I, dude, I, I, I spend more time on Hulu than I do anything else. I mean, I love their shows. I love, um, their catalog. They’ve got some really great documentaries on there. Um, honestly, one of the only times, like I’ll hop on Netflix if somebody mentioned something is on Netflix. Uh, and I’ll go check it out. But I mean, like, my default is I fire up Hulu and see what’s there. It’s hard to find stuff on Netflix. Like they give you like the six categories on the homepage that they give you, but like, you can’t browse by sub genre or anything on Netflix at all. I mean, you can, don’t, you just have to, like, you got to scroll way down. Yeah. Uh, but like you get like the top level genres, but if you want to do sub genres, you have to like do custom spectrum. Yeah. URLs on the web browser. Yeah. So wrestling’s on right now with the crowd, there’s like 25 people in the crowd, all like six, seven people beat apart and they’re just like, it’s all the talent. It’s a really awkward, it’s really, Hey, I mean they, they could do what Korea did and maybe put sex dolls in them and make it look more full video game people in there. It just CGI people in the seats, it’ll be fine. Nobody will notice. Although speaking to it, speaking to people in seats and wrestling, I got to get a, give a little shout out. I don’t know if you caught the, uh, I guess AEW is running some new promo. Um, uh, like I guess for some upcoming thing. And uh, Mikey and one of the other guys from breaking down the ring are, are prominently in the commercial, um, in the promo. You know, sitting there with, you know, with Mike, he’s got his belt over his shoulder and that kind of stuff you to right there and you know the front rows. So that was kind of cool to see him there. I thought he did a screenshot and I’m like, Oh, big deal. I’ve done that. No, he was one of like three people. It was like legit like it. Yeah, it wasn’t, yeah, it wasn’t like they were panning the crowd and he happened to be there for a 10th of a second. No, he was there know Mark always puts a picture up of native champions or me with the end of the road, you know, making us basically looking at the camera and waiving the entire show. Like like a complete idiot now. But rainy going back like Netflix, I used to always have to Google like top movies on Netflix because there’s so, it’s so hard to find anything now. They got the top 10 but the top tens I’ll trash. It’s like, Oh this, this trash. We’ll give him 2007 I’m like, is that how slim pickings are on Netflix? It says, says the guy who, you know, just devoted 20 minutes talking about 90 day fiance, what am I supposed to watch? I remember when Netflix originals were like quality shows that you would like go to Netflix to watch, but now they’re just turning out like 1600 garbage shows a year. Netflix your greenlit. See last week? Yeah. Oh that’s such trash. That ending was, it’ll never happen in a million years for a million different people. It would never end up. Not at all. Uh, kind of like, I’m like, I’m still, I’m not a, we watched her last night, you had a 93% popcorn rating. So I’m like, usually, usually if it’s over 90% good to go watch it. And it was a pile of shit. It was like literally you could have sat, I could have watched the diarrhea for an hour and it wouldn’t have been any different than this movie. It was that it was that bad. Like I don’t get like, is it like he got like his eight uncles to like rank it on whatever popcorn thing and that’s exactly right. And then people watch her like, Oh, this is what he’s trashed by that point. They’ve already been seen. So, but are you, are you waiting with bated breath for the justice league? Rerelease No. And I’m going to tell you why I gave up on DC movies. I didn’t see joke. Oh shit. Damn was good. Joker was great. Oh, Suzanne was she saying I started to watch joker and that’s actually on HBO. I got to watch that. Um, but yeah, no, dude, Suzanne was amazing. Suzanne. Yeah, she’s, Dan was really good. Was better than I thought joker was way better than I thought. Well, and Shizam like, you know me, like, dude, I, I, I, I assumed I was going to have the hardest time in the world getting past him, being Chuck. Um, and, and that took like five seconds. Like, I was like, like that didn’t bother me at all. Like I was, I was totally cool with it. See, here’s what the speakers was pissing me off about justice league. Once again, I’ve been watching super friends, cartoons, whatever I can get my hands on. Meanwhile, while at the Legion of doom and you got Lex Luther at the head of the table to his left, you’ve got bizarro Superman, whatever, that 50 foot tall Amazon woman, I forget what her name was. You got the Riddler on the right side. You got like sit and Astro. Like it just like black man. You got like the all star cast and it’s like stepping Wolf. That was that. That’s the best you can come up with. Like I, I feel like they tease that at the end of that last movie that justice Lee or that, uh, um, the Legion of doom was going to be happening but haven’t really heard anything about it. Yeah. But then you got Mark Zuckerberg playing Luther who can bring back gene Hackman. Right. It was like for every hero in super friends, the baggy or a bad guy corresponding. Yeah, there was, yeah. There was a parallel Batman and Robin had the Riddler, right? They had a couple, actually, I don’t remember. There’s Batman, Superman, Superman. Um, yeah, no. Yeah. And like they had like where their powers basically canceled each other out. Oh yeah. Cheap. With the 50 foot Amazon woman. Yeah, it was a black Falcon. Like it was just, it was good. And you could, you could make the story go a hundred different ways. You could have done, if you would have done that, like literally 808 justice league vs Legion of doom. You could have done those movies for the next 12 years. They wrote themselves. Well, and I mean honestly, I mean maybe that’s what they’re trying to build up to a lot of the Marvel universe, but I was going to say, does DC have anybody like Kevin FYGI controlling their overall scope of what the movies are supposed to be? I’m going to go with, no, they do. He’s failing horribly. Here’s, see, here’s one of my problems with what DC’s doing is you had suicide squad come out, which like basically the Harley Quinn movie is, everything else is trash. Um, then you had joker come out, which was surprisingly amazing. But they’re not related at all. Like it’s completely different joker. They’re not related. The stories are not linked. But what you’re doing then you’re doing suicide squad. Jared Leto burn fixtures just came out today, the next suicide squad release. And in the meantime, you already had a suicide squad spinoff with Ali quit. It’s like make up your app and mind’s like your kids. But that’s the thing, to Randy’s poi

Hey, welcome to the one and only IT in the D show. This is episode 349 happy Memorial day to everybody listening. Hopefully you didn't give him a moment of silence today to all the men and women that have made the ultimate price and certainly our freedoms appreciate it. Um, it is because of people like you that we can be the self-entitled jerk wads that we are and we need, we appreciate from our homes. I think this is what our 10th or eighth edition of a foreign team, uh, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. This is, I'm a, if you don't know me, I'm Bob the sales guy that's named the geek. I do. The Twitters is doing the Twitter's. You can find us online at [inaudible] dot com do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere fine podcasts are sold...       except for podcast addict cause apparently just took them off. Yeah, they got, they got pulled back. Oh, they're back now. Yeah. But, uh, and as per usual, this is usually the part of the show where we talk about our upcoming events and we ain't gotten an a in can. In fact, I actually just canceled the, uh, the Facebook listing for the Anarbor event cause that was still on the agenda. Um, yeah, because our governor just extended our stay home, stay safe again until June 12th. Yeah, exactly. So everybody in Trevor city shout out to all my friends up there. No kidding. Travers city is packed. Well, and then they did, apparently they had, um, a couple of people that showed up, uh, positive. Um, obviously they didn't catch it there, like I said, a couple. Um, and so they showed up. Uh, I guess they, you know, they went up and had it and just, you know, developed worse symptoms while they were there. So yay. You know, I think we all were kind of expecting those kinds of stories. Um, but yeah, I mean it's, and it was, uh huh. Well, yeah, no, I mean we'll see more, I'm sure. Uh, but yeah, I mean it's, you know, things got relaxed a little bit. You can have gatherings of 10 or more, you know, or 10 or fewer. Sorry. Um, and, uh, so yeah, I was, I've, I've been surprised. Uh, I left the house a couple of times, like just run a couple errands and, uh, yeah, there's a lot of cops out, so go figure holiday weekend. Uh, and the first time that gatherings are allowed, uh, there's an awful lot of police on the streets. Well, everyone's current, you know, like crazy. It's kind of like, uh, you know, the, the Toga party just opened up. It's like, you know, like there's a running like Forrest Gump to get to wherever they need to get to. You know what I mean? We've all been cropped up in months, man. Everybody's going stir crazy. What are you going to do? Um, yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I'm feeling it too. Yeah, no, I don't blame you. Um, a couple of interesting things changed this weekend. So we talked last week about my Buddhist legal came back on this weekend or blasted. And so this weekend I'm watching and two things change. Uh, they started piping in cheers and chants, crowd chants, and they basically masked off the crowd the seats with, with advertising. I'm watching it and I go usually use that kind of passively watch. I'm not actively watching. It's kind of a reading news. It's, I'm drinking coffee, you know what I mean? It's like kind of been my Sunday tradition for years and years and years and years and it sounds the same. And I go, wait a minute, there's like full on chance going on and I look up and sure. Shit, empty arena. So where are they piping it in from? Is it from past games? Is it like, are they like, where are they paddle? I don't, I don't know. I would love to, I mean it's going through the PA speakers. It can't be coming like, it can't be coming in remotely from bars. So I got an engineer pushing the cheer button when their team is doing. There was a, a, there was this part like where the ball like dismissed the net. Oh, you heard like it was bizarre. Like interesting. Yeah. It just,

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Hey, this is episode 337 of the one and only it in the D show. Guests this week include Dave and Steve there with the exceptional Academy and like museums. No, no, no. Like no actually better, actually better. They are doing training programs for disabled people but they're not just training programs. We're talking CCNs and upper echelon it training programs, getting people with autism, getting people with severe disabilities, seizure disabilities, getting them gainfully trained up, employed. So I cannot wait for that conversation. Should go great. And in the meantime, you know what Dave, you may uh, I got, we're, we're, we've can barely see each other cause there's room stocked full of toilet paper and water. Um, but we'll talk about that in a minute. You may hand sanitize, you may fire when ready. Hey, what's going on? This is the one and only it in the D show... Hey, this is episode 337 of the one and only it in the D show. Guests this week include Dave and Steve there with the exceptional Academy and like museums. No, no, no. Like no actually better, actually better. They are doing training programs for disabled people but they're not just training programs. We're talking CCNs and upper echelon it training programs, getting people with autism, getting people with severe disabilities, seizure disabilities, getting them gainfully trained up, employed. So I cannot wait for that conversation. Should go great. And in the meantime, you know what Dave, you may uh, I got, we're, we're, we've can barely see each other cause there's room stocked full of toilet paper and water. Um, but we'll talk about that in a minute. You may hand sanitize, you may fire when ready. Hey, what's going on? This is the one and only it in the D show.   We made it all the way up to episode 337 broadcasting live here in studio one in podcast Detroit in beautiful Royal Oak, Michigan. This is Bob the sales guy. That is Dave the geek. Randy. I do. The Twitters is doing the Twitter's fine. Us. He's a Twittering. He is following people around. I don't know who this is, who followed me. Um, finding us online it in the D. dot com and do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold. All right, so what do we got? We got a tomorrow night at haymaker. See, look at me. Look at me. Look at me. Nice work. I, I got it this time. I wrote it down. I was good. A torn at the Anarbor social event is happening at, at haymaker. Uh, go give him a look.   Check them out. Come say hi. Then we have our events on the 19th, uh, the next Metro Detroit event, which is going to be at cozy lounge. And they could like, literally, I've gotten like six texts from the owner's daughter. They could not be happier that we're going to be there. Go ahead. Eat your chicken biscuits and your burgers. Get, get the cheese, steak and cheese, no mushrooms though, you and your mushrooms and whatever. Uh, and then, uh, if you're out in a balance, uh, there's still time you can sign up for free podcast day, which is the Saturday, uh, which is happening in all three of our studios. Uh, Royal Oak, downtown Detroit and Northville. Uh, and then if you're bored and want to come hang out or you, you like history and you want to hang out, shout a history. He's also doing a live broadcast on Saturday from whiskey in the jar in Hamtramck.   Uh, that should be a fun one. I believe. Uh, the gentleman, his first name is Greg. I am blanking on his last name right now, who literally wrote the book about prohibition bars, uh, in Hamtramck is going to be one of their guests. Um, and he's also the chair of the Hamtramck historical society. So that should be kind of a cool conversation. I don't know if I'm going to be there cause I'm going to get in line for the bread and milk. So I mean, and the hand sanitizer and then let's be real. I mean the show is one of the few things, uh, that has not been canceled today. Dude, I got it. I got it.

Well, if you’re looking for a new job in the information technology field, you’re probably going to want to keep this event next week in mind.  Listen in as the CTO and lead recruiter talk about the upcoming job fair for United Shore’s open IT positions… Details at: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/united-shore-it-career-fair-march-4-2020-registration-91911982213 Speaker 1: Hey, what’s going on? This is episode three 36 of the it and the D show guests this week include Jason Bressler. He is the CTO Matt Turner. He is one of the head recruiters of United shore mortgage. They’re putting on a career fair on March 4th over 300 open it positions, everything from coding to networking. They’re going to be talking all about it. You’re going to Snowmageddon in Detroit and we got a lot of funny stories and Dave, you may fire when ready. Hey, what’s happening? What’s going on? This is episode three 36 of the one and only it in the D show. We are broadcasting live here in studio one podcast. He threatened beautiful snowy Royal Oak, Michigan spot. The sales guy. That is Dave the geek. Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters, find us online it and the D. dot com and do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials, subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts Speaker 2: or sold. Hey, so what do we have? We got a the Anarbor event coming up on, uh, three, three, uh, I forget. I always forget the odd even thing. I should have that memorized by now and I just don’t two years now. Yeah, I am. I, my brain refuses to commit that to memory. Uh, and then we had, uh, well the next one is, uh, the 19th that will be at the cozy lounge. Uh, and they are really kind of dorked about us being there. And not only that, they’re named for one of the best burgers in Southeastern Michigan. Yeah. They were like one of the, yeah, the one of the top 10 burgers, right? Like, Oh my God, they’re so cool. I agree. And I would like James [inaudible] from Mabel gray who was like, I think he’s James Beard. He’s one of the top chefs in, yeah. Speaker 2: He like swears by their chicken biscuits. So like that honestly, God for, it’s a little dive bar. It’s a little townie bar, but they’ve transformed that they can do like kind of a cool little place, great little place. And we’re looking forward to it. And, and you know, and then the last week we had our event at Woodbridge pub. Um, really? Well, that was the first time I remember being there. I haven’t been there before, but I haven’t been since my Wayne state days. Oh yeah. And, and like that place like just brought back tons of, yeah. It was phenomenal. Like love that place, love to go back. Everybody was like, it couldn’t have been happier and it was yet another one. That’s like, a lot of the people that showed up were like, Oh my God, heard about this place. Never been here. Really digging it. Speaker 2: And they have decent sipping room and you know, and they have food as long as you don’t want the chicken wings. No chicken wings. Yeah. Chicken wings are gone. I was in the mode, but then I had, I ordered that chicken one tons. That sounds weird. All over to that. And it’s chicken egg rolls. It’s like you take the bottom of chicken soup and you slab in an egg roll and it was actually pretty good anyway. Yeah. Looking forward to it. Looking forward to cozy. It should be good. Um, and then, Hey, uh, just on a personal note, I would be remiss if I didn’t mention, um, Hey, rest in peace. Kelly Tucker, uh, great guy. Uh, local, uh, I mean he, he did, uh, stuff with us back in the raw radio X days. Uh, he was a sound guy over at the Ritz downtown at st Andrews. Speaker 2: He did stuff out at diesel. Uh, Kate, one of our engineers actually went to graduated specs wait time. A lot of people touch a lot of lives. They, I was, uh, if you read his wall today, man, touching a lot of lives. Yeah. Great. Great guy. Gone too. Damn soon. Uh, so rest easy bro. So Honda, funny, yucky cheats. Nah, no show. Must go on, right. He would say the same thing. Don’t cut the damn Mike. But one of the, uh, the funny race and I don’t, one of the funniest tweets I’ve seen all week. Uh, basically I didn’t even know that this was possible or this was a thing. Um, but basically it’s an app powered car and this couple when basically in rural California on the mountain, like basically for a drive on the weekend. Yeah. And they lost cell signal cell coverage and their car Brecht. Speaker 2: And it got stuck literally in the middle of the shit’s villain nowhere. That was the best day Heather. So car will not go. And I, I guess this is where we live now. Right? But here’s the stupidest part. I’m like, wait a minute, you’re tweeting. So the cell phone works. So the first tweet they answer their own like stupid question. They’re like, it appears though I do not have enough cell service to start. My only means of transportation. I do have enough to live tweet my struggle. So thanks for tuning in. I’ll be here. And definitely like again, I was stupid. Like you can send out tweets but you know, what does the car need? Like just bandwidth requirements. Got it. Who died? Yeah. That’s one of the dumbest things I did. Like I, I was going back to like, the one thing I could think of was like the old stories about like you don’t know far superstar, uh, that had like the GPS tracking devices and cutouts cars, the low jacks and all that stuff on financed vehicles. Speaker 2: Yeah. So just, yeah, just the bizarre I, yeah, I, it’s just one of those weird things that like you don’t really think through well they would think there’s not full coverage everywhere. You, you know, I don’t know. It did remind me though. I watched the worst photo. That seems like a pretty common shortsighted oversight of it. It, there isn’t, there isn’t a cell, there isn’t a cell company that says a hundred percent coverage. Like they all say 99.9% or whatever. They, you know, there’s always some weird pocket and weirdo they prominent use sprint or something. It’s Bryant. Yeah, it does remind me of the worst. I think one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen in my life this weekend and that saved something and I should’ve known, I should’ve known better. It was called cell. And you know, I think I’ve seen like the trailer for this, but I haven’t actually watched it. Speaker 2: I love me some John Q SAC, he’s one of my top of all time, who’s coming to town in April. He is for the free. I tweeted them to see if he’d come on the show. That’s not going to happen. But whatever wishful thinking. We’ve got Anthony Michael Hall, my Mizel, you know, I’ll shoot for the moon at this point. I’m Samuel L. Jackson was in it and uh, it was kind of like the all 11% on rotten tomatoes. I know. I go, there’s no way it can be that cause it, was he tired of the cell phones on his head? No, no. I didn’t get that bad. But like it was a, and then it was like 18% audience score. I go, there’s no way it could be that bad. And it starts off like put, wait. Oh, but wait. Yeah. So he starts out like John Q six in the airport and all of a sudden, like, everyone that’s on their cell phone is like, uh, killing people. Speaker 2: Like right. Like, it’s almost like Dawn of the dead wood Ving right. We’re in the beginning. It’s like that cool scene where like the outbreak starts and like the town’s on fire and all this, so they go out in a remote remote, whatever. And if you were like open up a cell phone like so like cell phones became that VHS tape in the rain. Then the people open up their models and like get cell signal like [inaudible] and like then they like, yeah it ended there. Basically a guy handsome, they find this diner and the guy hands him like a flip phone. He says, dial this number when you need to save. And like at the end of the movies, like he calls the number and then he’s like in this ring of people around the cell tower and now they’re all going to [inaudible] and that was it, dude. Speaker 2: I swear to God I could go. That couldn’t have been it. And the credits are rolling. I’m like, I sat through this whole, I don’t know, this sounds like a good cheesy movie date night. It’s not the watch one of those. Like what have you heard the MST three K? No, I was gonna say my standard. No, because it wasn’t, it wasn’t like the Perato movies and all those stupid we, me and my wife watched some dumb one where like there was a beast in the sand and have you touched the sand? I was like, well floors, lava and you eat and, and at the end it came out of the sand. Was it the Sarlacc? I guess I’m going to stick with my standard cheesy date movie. Then a good snow. What’s that? Oh, you haven’t seen dead snow. Is it worse than Jack Frost? It’s a, not that Michael Keaton one the horrible where the snowman kills people, but nobody thinks to light a fricking match Nazi zombies up in Norway. Speaker 2: Come on. It’s amazing. Nazi zombies. No, I did see the one that was the has a sequel red dead two red versus dead, which is Russian zombies versus Nazi zombies. What was the one Nazi Nazi midgets and later hosing or something. And there was like a movie that was like, I’d show it to him. I had to click on and I lasted about eight minutes. This is the worst thing I’ve ever seen in my life. That’s outstanding. I’m kind of a weird week for hackers. Yes. Week. So, and I did, I found this interesting. Um, so the same hacker ran two exploits, um, against [inaudible] and managed to walk away. Well, what’s, for those that don’t know what’s, what’s DFI? It’s a decentralized finance. So it’s, you know, like, uh, all the cryptocurrency stuff that you got it. Got it. Got it. Um, and it’s one of the, one of the, you know, the trading houses and walked away with over $1 million in Ethereum over the course of two transactions. Speaker 2: But see, now explain to me this dumb dumb guy in me says, don’t you, where do you cash that out if you stole it because it’s tagged, it’s marked, it’s fingerprinted. Do you follow what I’m saying? Like, you can’t go on Coinbase and cash it out. Like if you just took it from softball. I mean, in theory you could, but I mean, it’s actually more to the point that knowing those exploits are feasible and viable. Um, cause yeah, I mean he basically just, you know, exploited, uh, I guess what in in certain circles as a very well known, uh, I just kind of flaw in the way that the, you know, the transactions are authenticated and that kind of stuff and just overflowed the system and whew. There want a million bucks. Wow. That was, this wasn’t a pen test. This was like, just like, how did they know? Speaker 2: Was it like stupid kid bragged about it? Like on social? No, they realize it’s gone. Yeah. Yeah. There’s two transactions over $1 million call and you’re going to notice, Oh my God, that’s insane. Oh yeah. Good luck with that. Yeah. So this one was, I, I don’t know if you, if you watched the video of this at all, um, especially in light of, Oh, by the way, the news broke today. Did you hear that? We’ve picked up a second moon. What, uh, the earth has picked up a second moon that’s no moon yet. Uh, and it’s about the size of a car. Um, they said it’s, it’s basically an asteroid that drifted close enough to get sucked into our gravitational orbit. Uh, there’s a whole ton of shit in our grad gravitational orbit, but not like this, not orbiting the earth like this. Um, and so, but they said it’s already on. Speaker 2: Um, like a, I forget what they call it, a skewed trajectory. So it’s probably only gonna be around for, you know, a while and then it’s going to get flung back out. Um, you know, it’s doing the whole star Trek whip around the sun. You know, it is a quote temporary captured object. Yes. Are we going to land on it? And somebody will not land on this planet in the name of, somebody will put their name, spray paint their name on it. Why not? I’m sure Elon Musk is desperately trying to figure out how to get there, to put it, put a logo on it. Yeah, totally. Uh, but no. So, uh, there was an asteroid that, uh, hit, well it didn’t hit, but it exploded, um, over the, over India and basically turned at night into day for awhile. Dude, I remember when we were kids, there’s a gas plant on Moravian and Shaner that blew up and I’m maybe 10 or 12. Speaker 2: There’s people, I remember this story cause their cars melted, the siding melted and the whole sky three in the morning is orange. Yeah, this sounds good. I scream that the aliens are going to get us and my parents like, cause I was, I watched all that crap. The big foot shows, the alien shows the UFOs. And I’m like these sound like the sort of coincidence is that trigger or complete agent spells. Like you know when the sky burns and whoops, yeah, the seventh sign of the whatever it is. Well yeah, 53 equivalent to 53 tons of TNT being detonated in the skies, CCTV footage of a cheese. And they said there’s a, and that was good. I, I went down the rabbit hole with all these, with all these kind of stories. And then there’s basically, there’s another one, um, that should be missing the earth, uh, by about, I forget what it was. Speaker 2: I think it’s like 2 million miles. Um, which sounds like a lot, but it’s really not in astronomical terms apparently. Um, but they said the next time it comes around in 20 years, it’s going to do this exact same thing and it’s one of those bigger ones that we probably want to figure out a way to deal with it before it hits the atmosphere. I don’t shoot up a bill, Bruce Willis and exactly the same Aerosmith balance, much easier to train in a minor to be an astronaut than an astronaut. Ben Affleck, who else is in a piece of shit movie? Lou Tyler stupid. Just Oh, what’s his name? Speaker 2: Oh God. That movie is hell. I’m not saddling blade in that movie. Billy Bob, you refer to him as Slingblade. I couldn’t spit it enough crap. Since then by the French fried potatoes. I’m no stupid one. And I want to test, see if Tom Lawrence has cars, we should mess with them. Uh, in meal daddy. Yeah. I want hackers stuck apparently a two inch strip of tape on a 35 mile an hour speed sign and trick to Tesla’s and accelerating the 85 miles an hour. That’s what they did. Yeah. They took two inch tape cause you know the, the lettering is, or the numbering is two inches wide, the paint strokes, uh, and turned a 35 mile an hour sign and do an 85 mile an hour sign. So riddle me this, like when you got GPS on in your Googles and your car, they have the posted speed limit. Speaker 2: So wouldn’t that, Oh you would think that would override reading tape. Cause there’s no place in the U S where there’s an 85 mile an hour speed limit isn’t a Wyoming. I believe there is Montana maybe. But like, but no. So it coders would put you, you would, you would think that they wouldn’t. So and so Tom actually kind of laid this out a little bit pretty decently where it is. So it was the old, it was a, the Teslas that were hit were running the old first generation. Um, don’t they update those and I guess they hadn’t at that point. Uh, and so they were still using the, trying to use the recognition of there’s the sign, read the sign instead of what, you know, what we have now where, you know, yes, your nav system knows, you know, a lot of what the local speed limit signs or what the local speed limits are and all that kind of stuff. Speaker 2: Uh, so theoretically this shouldn’t be too big of a problem, but it’s still an issue. It’s a piece of code that says like no read, sign, run. Yeah, it did it true across database to decelerate and that’s, that’s not a cool thing. God, give me my old 76 Cadillac and my eight track player and just leave me the hell alone with seal seal room hover caps. Anyway, uh, the best story of the week, this is by far I do the world TaeKwonDo foundation yes. Has changed their name. WTF is just world TaeKwonDo because they were tired of everybody trying to buy their merchandise and use their apparel because it said WTF wasn’t, it was like that when we were, when I was like 19 or 21 like around that norm. Like the Fordham university cause it was FTU and like South Carolina it was like just Cox did that. Speaker 2: Those are like, those are like the best. Everyone had those hats like when we warm to spring break and then you never warm again. Oh it was it like a guide like the university of North Texas and everybody bought the coffee cup because when you put the handle out with yeah, right, right, right, right. Oh yeah. Yeah. C C was the head and I’ll get the UNT university North. Yeah, they still sell those, don’t they? I probably, yeah, but no. So I just, I think it’s hilarious that it all right. If I were them, I would have just embraced this and run with it all day and just take the merchandise sales and run [inaudible]. All guys were selling too much merchandise. Know how. Is this a problem? What did they change it to? I can’t even see. I just world TaeKwonDo shout up. They just dropped the F. Speaker 2: I’m still pissed at the world wildlife fund by the way. They will never be the WWF to me. No of the picture of the Panda bear hitting the other church. A chair that started real quick. I’ve sent them, I’ve sent them letters like you’ve ruined wrestling. I hope you’re happy. I hope your pan does die. Yeah, I was, I was better when it first happened. I still haven’t called a WWE since a bunch of garbage, isn’t it? Just w w now WWE entertainment movies and stupid stuff. Yeah. Anyway, cause they had to prove they weren’t a sport because whatever, cause they’re soap opera for people who don’t wanna admit to us. Soap operas. It’s a soap opera for dudes who would never admit they watch soap operas. Yes. So we got that, we got that update we talked about on the Samsung phones, find my mobile and I, I didn’t wake up to it cause my phone’s downstairs when I sleep, you know, probably for the, for the better. Speaker 2: And I thought nothing of it. I thought it was weird finding my mobile. I’m like, I thought, you know, cause we’re all connected. Family plan. I’m like somebody’s lost phone, whatever, but there’s an update. I didn’t, uh, what was three last week was Samsung basically saying, um, yeah, just accidentally trigger the alert. Nothing to see here. Move along. Right. And then the story updated this week. I w w I don’t know what the update is to be honest. I like what did, what did they say? Uh, so from what I, from what I, from what I recall from the story, I believe there’s a data breach in the midst of this cause something was, something came out that you could see certain phones could see other user’s data. Yeah. But it was like random and you didn’t know whose it was, but you could see their names, phone numbers, mailing addresses, email addresses. Speaker 2: Oh, it went that far. Yeah. So I’m sure the sand and their previous orders through the Samsung store, I’m sure this will get updated more over the course of the next week, but it, it wasn’t just the, oops that Samsung originally led everyone to believe. It’s funny, I was a, there was a video of Gary V talking about how Samsung, if it wasn’t for the note catching on fire, they would like completely dominate the market. They would have owned it unequivocally. And he goes, I don’t know why they just don’t come out and innovate and make the world’s greatest phone right now and call it the Samsung fire and just own it. Just like your name, Skippy, own it. Put it to bed and just come out with the greatest phone ever and call it go. I would buy it. Yeah. As long as that FYR Edo cause that’s stupid. Speaker 2: Right. And then people would say, can people stop saying that’s so fire. By the way, I didn’t realize that was a thing until that festival documentary. Instead of saying like, that’s awesome. And some people say that’s dope. That long predates that festival does it really needs it needs to stop. Mix tape is fire that needs to do that forever. Oh my God. By the way, I’m totally non-related. Um, my desk at work, I have like one of those 120 slim Jim dispensers. So when you like you come by are like the, we get a lot of walk-ups at work and like people, Will’s got the root beer barrels the candy, like, so we were like a little little party store going on. I got the slim Jim’s and people walk by like, Hey, what’s up? And they grab a slim Jim kind of what, you know, just whatever preaching. Speaker 2: One of the guys that works with me brings over the Savage slim Jim. And he goes, dude, this cost five bucks. I go, let me see this thing. It’s, you know, the deli slim Jim’s that are like triple the slim Jim straw? No, no, it’s, no, it’s bigger. I’m really, so you know the deli ones that are like three times the size of normal, the long slung gyms, this is three times the size of those. And it’s a $5 slim gym and it’s got macho man on it and it’s a F it’s got three servings. So I go, let me see the damn, uh, this is the thing that nutrition on the side serving eight pounds of salt. Surfing’s three. No, you’ve got, um, we did the math. It was 71, 70% of your daily sodium if you ate the whole thing. So we were like egging the mind to eat the whole thing. Speaker 2: And it was the day before punchy day two. So of course, like we, you know, we smashed like three dozen punch. Good. I’m like, I can’t believe like who’s sitting? And then I go, when I started, they never heard my whole dissertation on boardroom stuff. Like who’s sitting around going, you know, I really big slim Jim. We have, let’s make one three times bigger and see if people buy it. Yeah, well sure. As shit. People are buying some gyms. Savage, slim Jims, Savage something, another website. It’s not, no, it’s got like macho man on the wrapper. I have a picture of it. It’s [inaudible]. It looks like. I like it. Those mini baseball bats they give out at Comerica park. Here we go. That’s crazy. Go ConAgra. Uh, so I’m, I, I guess, uh, you know, Kelly had virtually was the only person who died. Uh, you’ve got, uh, Larry Tesler a name that most people do not know. Speaker 2: Uh, but they know what he did. He’s the guy that invented the Tesla and paste. Oh yeah, he did read about that. So he invented, you know, control C, control V uh, you know, control and more important than that is then the cut and the copy is the invention of the clipboard, like imaginary place where data goes and you can retrieve it. Dude, I remember pre PCs when we had the typewriters and I had the three lines of digital and you could cut basically in paste and like, Oh my God, we can’t afford it for a day. And the whole selling point was we can move paragraphs. I’m like, when did I ever write a paper where I moved one paragraph above or below another one, like cut copy basis. Like we use it for a thousand different things. But that was what they sold it to be. Speaker 2: Oh, you could move Y like sentences. Like when did I ever move a sentences? Everything was all word processing. Bob. That’s, that’s all it was for. Yeah, exactly. No word. Perfect. It’s amazing. You’re steno pool will love it. One of the things, Oh my God, one of the, one of the articles that I usually, I’m a, I’m a fan of some stuff and some stuff I’m not, and this one was a kind of interesting, like, so the employees of Kickstarter, um, voted to unionize and they’re calling it a big step in tech. And I’m, I’m reading further and I’m like, okay, I’m in. Well apparently, um, 46 voted in favor, 37 opposed so there’s only like a hundred and whatever. We’ll do the math, whatever. That’s like 80, 90 employees and they’re like overjoyed by it. And somebody like wrote on LinkedIn, they’re like, wait, let me get this straight. Speaker 2: Like, you’re going to fight for higher weight is like, you’re already, you’re in tech, you’re, you’re, you’re, you’re in Silicon Valley. You’re probably higher paid than anyone ever and you’ve probably got options coming out the wazoo. What are your free lunch options aren’t good enough. Like what are you getting? You’re not getting mistreated. You’re not working out. Like what, what exactly are you doing it just business date. Like workers’ safety. You’re in tech, like, so y’all just deal with carpal tunnel syndrome, right? Like, okay, I get it. Like, where’s the, like I usually, I understand it if it’s like, okay, we’ve been mistreated, we banned or paid, but if you’re, you know, especially Silicon Valley tech, we’ve had this conversation now bajillion times, every time, you know, that they’ve talked about, uh, you know, it workers unionizing and that kind of stuff. And, and I, I don’t, especially with the, with the way the market is right now, um, like I, I understood it, you know, back when things were horrible in the it industry and, you know, and people were, you know, getting, you know, burned down to the nub, you know, they were, you know, they want, you know, they were trying to get, you know, systems architects with, you know, 20 years of experience to take a BA job. Speaker 2: You know, cause it’s all they could find and that right before a big outsourcer. And so like, I, you know, I, I got it. But like now, dude, like if you’re not happy, go down the street. It’s no joke. Every, you know, you put out a, like I asked the guys on my team and we talked all the time, how many resumes, how many recruiters hit you a week? They’re like, Oh my God, I just pulled my stuff off LinkedIn. I can’t like, what am I supposed to say? I need to be polite. Yeah, like here you got like, yeah, they kickstarted, they’re probably all making minimum buck and a half easy for like just, it’s not that, you know the work camp is what? It’s UI coding. I don’t even think like what way it goes. It’s just, it’s running servers. Right. And then 5% they’re all in the cloud. Speaker 2: They’re not doing a lot of server monitor stuff and taking 5% that’s, that’s the Kickstarter business. Go fund yourself are that’s all part? Yes. We have a thing where if your couch has been a thing, they’re like, so we can play tell people to go off your couch. So we’re making FYC we made a logo and it’s going to be for your consideration. So when we play politely say like we know we can’t for your consideration, here’s why in insight it’s going. So I just gave away the beans, didn’t I? Absolutely. If your college dude, this is weird and I guess this is one of those things that like, you don’t even think about like when, when shit gets put together, um, I guess ACEs graphics cards were like significantly overheating because they weren’t screwed down tightly enough. What? Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, the metal wasn’t making enough contact with the, to display the heat. I don’t like ACEs. Stephanie was one letter away from anus. Every time I see it, that’s all I like to see. Ane that’s why I like a company. I want her and I’m like, don’t be one letter away from any swear word or body part. We’re like, no, this screwed. Like, so it’s coming. Obviously they’re coming out of China. It’s coming out like th these things are all cheaply made, but like just loose screws, like ridiculous. It’s an imperfect world. Screws fall out all the time. Now that’s um, if you ever did business in Brazil, we had to ship servers basically without screwed together. Yeah. And basically, so you’d have to pay their VAT, you’d get, there’d be assembly plants and you would screw everything like one, two, three, four, and then save 30%. Speaker 2: But you employed people down in Brazil. I’m wondering if that’s got anything to do with that or like where they came from that does it so bizarre to me that that’s awesome. Yeah. Weird. But don’t try and tighten your screws yourself. They’ll do it under warranty. Will they? Oh. Oh, they said don’t touch it. Don’t try to tighten it. Don’t touch it. Thank you. By the way, Jif peanut butter that finally came out of the woodworks and said, we’re Jeff. They’re GIF hard. J J I disagree. The creator of the trolling graphics is hard to choose. The P in JPEG, JPEG, photo graphic J fag graphics. No, you’re J graphics. You’re a giraffe. Exact jury. No. You ever go scuba diving? Yes. Every day. Speaker 2: Nobody. What he did George, a good thing to get the peanut butter industry involved in computer, uh, acronyms. I just, I wonder how many people are going to go out and buy jars of peanut butter because that’s their whole thing is they want to, they’re releasing a limited, a limited run of ones with the different labels. Right. And it’s going to be at every UI, UX, like it software is going to have one on their desk. Yeah. Include it. Yeah. Smart. Kind of brilliant. Actually. It’s good for them. Um, I wonder if, Oh my God, I wonder if this had to, this is a thing. So we’re working, I was working on a cert ticket where mobile wasn’t, everything was working for the Apple. Certainly everything. Yeah. Everything was working except for Safari browser. So this came out, there’s a, this actually hasn’t kicked in yet. Speaker 2: It doesn’t, this, this won’t take effect until September of this year. That’s what I was wanting. A visitor said, Oh my God. But it will take, it does take an effect in September. And I do, I understand what they’re doing. Like I, I mean, I remember, you know, search could never be more than 12 months for the, for the longest time. Um, and, but you know, you’ve got a lot of ’em, uh, whether they’re self signed or super certs that are extended out, uh, you know, in some cases, two and three years. Uh, and what Apple said is, Hey, look, uh, we are not going to allow or accept, um, authentication from any certificate that’s greater than 13 months old. Wow. And I get it. And, and I like it because it does, I mean, dude, a lot change, especially in the tech industry, a lot changes in 13 months. Speaker 2: Plus nobody respects the, uh, implementation of revoking certificates. Right. You could theoretically having a two year old certificate floating around doing harm for two years. Absolutely. I honestly wonder if this was it though, because literally there was, we were having certain issues and it was people going, it shouldn’t, like I said, people weren’t going crazy trying to figure this thing out. Like I said, it shouldn’t because this isn’t supposed to take effect until September. Oh. So it should be an issue yet. I hope not. So a little close to home, you’ve got a OCC, uh, that has not only got facial recognition, facial recognition technology running on their campus, uh, but they have banned students from even talking about the fact that there is facial recognition technology running on the campus. Dude, this goes back, I, you know, some people are fans and some people aren’t, uh, uh, you know, Jordan Peterson, he’s a professor up in Canada and he’s very pointed on certain, on language being dictated to you by government. Speaker 2: And this is another one, but you can’t even talk about it. Like, or what, or what, what are you going to do from a community college? I guess from the standpoint of they couldn’t talk about it from the standpoint of they couldn’t, uh, they were trying to organize meetings, uh, and they wanted to, you know, have these groups and associations past like nine non-binding, um, you know, uh, recommendations, all that kind of stuff about it. They’re blocking, they’re blocking. The students were organizing to prevent the technology from being adopted. So they’re blocking students from even meeting. Yeah, let alone talking about it. Not, not a fan. [inaudible]. Yeah, no, I even looked, I got a, I got a kid coming up for college. I’m like, what’s college costs these days? You know, it’s been a long time. Uh, there’s still like 90 bucks a credit. Yeah. If that, you know something like, Oh, you know, you’re going to OCC for two years, kid, just like yogurt. What? You want to get a bar? Yeah. Yeah. Just like the old man did. [inaudible] none of this $80,000 debt. Oh shit. Hell no. Well, but I mean, you know, by the time she gets it, you know, Bernie Sanders will want it. It’ll all be free. So stop talking. Stop talking. What’s the deal with ’em? What did Google do to Chrome now? Because like, you’re not going to get anyone to go back to Firefox. Nobody’s going to get your internet for whatever the hell they call it these days. Speaker 3: It’s pretty good. It’s actually built on Chrome, chromium moments or Frederick Chrome is built on and built a new version of edge off of it. So they share the same underlying, but, uh, they built in the ability to deep link into a page directly, directly to a word on the page. What does that mean? So, uh, if you’re going through search results or something like that, Google can actually direct you directly to a specific word on a page instead of a built in HTML header or something like that. Speaker 2: Well, and not only that, but so the, the one thing, uh, that was kind of that they said that people were kind of getting up in arms about was the, uh, what is it, the on mouse event, uh, that they were enabling within the browser. That was just basically just further enabling a lack of privacy when you’re using that browser and how much and how much of that data is getting sent back to Google and where it’s getting sent back from. Uh, where it, it or excuse me, where it’s getting sent back to. Um, but I mean they, they’ve already kind of backed down off of it and I think they, I think they already released a patch to the patch that initiated that. If I recall correctly. If anybody’s thinking they’re getting privacy from Google, uh, go to activity.google.com and you can call me, you can call me tomorrow while I’m, we’re to the point, remember the good old days when you know the home page of Google said, you know, don’t be evil. Speaker 2: Yeah, that’s, that’s been gone for a long time. That’s been gone for a long time. Speaking of evil, we’re going to be back in a quick moment with a nother Jason Bressler and the CTO and Matt Turner, one of the head recruiters from United shore talking about a cool job fair and how, what it’s like to grow one of the biggest companies in Michigan. This is the it that he show. He’ll be right back with the capital one venture card. You weren’t an unlimited double miles on every purchase every day. And you can use those miles towards travel expenses like flights, hotels, rental cars, and more. Just book and pay for your travel, using your venture card and redeem your miles towards the cost. Capital one. What’s in your wallet? Credit approval required. Capital one, bank USA and a. Speaker 1: Hey, what’s going on? Thanks for hanging out with us. This is segment two, episode three 36 of the one and only it and the D show, broadcast and life here in studio one in podcast. 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He’s a one from United shores. All mr Matt Turner. How are you guys doing? I’m doing great and have never been better in all my life. One of the, uh, I guess we’ll, we’ll jump right into it. Um, this, this United Shore’s been on a tear lately on the news. We’ve been, they’ve been talking about, uh, number two in the entire mortgage industry above Wells Fargo, bank of America. Did. Jason, you’ve been around for a while. How did you even foresee that this was even possible coming out of a little shop? Detroit just moved to Pontiac and, you know, uh, it’s been kind of a wild ride. I mean, Speaker 4: first of all, yes, for sure. We saw that it was possible. And that was kinda the goal all along. And this isn’t our goal right now is to be number two. I’d go, our goal is to be number one. Sure, we’ll get there for sure. But yeah, I mean we’ve really, I’ve been here for about four years now and we’ve really done everything possible to get to this point. And the growth has been exponential and fantastic to see and really we support it and we do the best that we can. But you know, I mean we were again blessed with such a great CEO who’s so business-minded and does what’s right by people. And that’s really what’s kind of fueled our growth for sure. Speaker 1: No doubt. And that’s the one thing that, I mean, what are you up to now as an it department? We, you were at 700 I think. Did I hear 800 recently? Speaker 4: I think we’re, I think we’re just about 800 somewhere around there. Yeah, for sure. Speaker 1: And then, I mean, here’s the thing, you know, I, I’m sitting in meetings and there’s people saying I need a dozen people. You like, go get them. I need seven people. Go get them. Well you need to find a town. So there’s a, you know, the kind of the reasons why you guys are here is on March 4th, uh, United shore is having an it career fair. Yup. Um, I guess talk to me Matt. Um, what is I guess w here’s the thing and here’s the thing, I’m just going to point that out. Like a lot of people hate is like the cattle call environment on some of these it fairs. I guess. Talk to me about a, what you’re trying to accomplish. And B, talk to me about why this one’s going to be different. Yeah. So Speaker 5: this one, so 100% it focused. We’ve got leaders from all departments of it. So if you’ve got representatives, re-upping app dev from the engineering team, uh, support teams, and we’ve got over 700 people registered already for the events, and essentially they’re going to have the opportunity to see these leaders one-on-one, talk to them, talk to them a little bit about their experience, and possibly go into a second more intimate interview. And maybe even get offer. Speaker 1: Well that’s what, that’s the one thing where I was like, I heard that they’re like, they’re going to, you know, Hey, interviews are going to be in the, in the cafe and there, there might be offers to put on the table. Yeah. Speaker 5: Well conference rooms for deeper dive. Speaker 1: Right, right. I guess that’s new to me and I, I’ve never even seen their, Andy, I don’t know if you’ve ever seen that at job fairs. I was always, you know, thanks for your info. We’ll here’s a, here’s a postcard. Right? Yeah. Walk me through how that’s even possible. Speaker 5: I mean, last year we ran two career fairs and I think from each one we hired about 200 people in each one, but we hired some folks from it who are, you know, drove up from Findlay, Ohio and we ended up taking him aside with, uh, Mark Wallace and a couple of the other guys and, and app dev and interviewing the guy and taking them out. And he was a, you know, great developer and we ended up moving forward and to make me an offer the next day. Speaker 1: No kidding. Um, yeah, no, I guess walk me through who are you hiring? Cause I mean, here’s the thing, like we talked to architecture and all of a sudden you need seven people and uh, you know, uh, work with, uh, the cloud team. And I know you need probably four or five cloud engineers. I guess walk me through some, or what’s your biggest needs? What are the biggest hits? Is it everywhere? Is it dev? Is it, is it DevOps? Is that architecture? Is that everything? Speaker 5: Uh, I pulled the numbers before I got here and we have 299 approved opening. Is that it right now? 299, I’d say 90% of that we’re looking for experienced hires. So we’re looking for people who have a couple of years of experience professionally in creating applications or doing QA automation testing or dev ops working with tools like puppet and um, uh, Docker Coopernetti’s, um, red cloud architects. So it just, pretty much everything is, is open there. This guy just keeps shoving new openings down my throat. So Speaker 1: my job. Yeah, exactly. I mean, one of the things that, you know, we just brought, I just brought a new guy on my team and one of the things I talked to him was, you know, it’s funny, we just interviewed a guy at Ford and we asked him what he’s been doing the last four years and he said folder permissions. Yeah. And we talked to him. I go, you’re in a sincerely unique environment where like if you say tomorrow I want to work on Kubernetes around, I want to do the container stuff, containerization and we will let you, you know, if you want to go learn how to do ADFS, we’ll Google go. Like, this isn’t like there’s nothing really limited in you, I guess. You know what, talk to me about, you know, I guess managing that, like, you know, it’s, it’s a unique environment. It’s gotta be structured. By the same token, it’s loose enough where, uh, we can give to two, two employees. Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and yes we can, but the thing is from a, from an experienced team member perspective, it’s, you know, like when you were seven years old and your dad took you to, your mom took you to Cedar point, like the water park for the first time and you’re like, Oh my God, this is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen. I run around and I can do anything that I want and it’s a nice hot sunny day. And that’s like working at United shore. That really is the best way to put it from a technology standpoint. And you know, really, I’m just trying to get you in a bathing suit by buttocks waterpark. Exactly. But it’s like we had a UHF, it’s like working at a fish market, except you don’t have to clean and gut fish all day. Yeah, I mean, you really get, from a standpoint, from a, from a sandbox standpoint, whatever you want to do. Speaker 4: And you know, if you have interest in something, and I know we talk about this all the time, but if you have an interest and a desire and you’re going to hold yourself accountable and be held accountable by other people, then we’ll actually put you where you want to go and what your interests are. As long as you’re, you’re, you’re a good, good fit, you’re all in for UWM, you’re all in for it, you’re all in for the team. If that happens we’ll let kind of let your run where you want to run cause we want to keep you here for the rest of your life. And so you know, we want to make sure that you’ve really, everybody feels fulfilled. Sure. And you, I guess you just had a big switch where you don’t have the team leads managing just BAS, right? You did it like a cross environment thing. Speaker 4: How did, I guess walk me through the process on saying like did you, is this feedback you’re getting and you’re just transforming on the fly because you know it’s kind of a big step. So it was a big step. And this is this from an application development standpoint. And so about four years ago when I came here, we were what I’d call cross functional teams. So it’s one leader kind of leading a team of developers and BAS and QA and scrum masters. And you know, from, from that standpoint and as we got here, we had so many good people that we really succeeded almost in spite of ourselves. And I mean that in the best way possible. It was, we were moving so fast, even four years ago, we needed to take a step back if we were really going to scale and say, Hey, for us to take our team and our technology team and UWM to the next level, we’ve got to take a step back and actually focus on the disciplines. Speaker 4: And so we went to a matrix model and so we had developer leads and BA leads and QA leads and PO leads. And we kind of like set a true structure and a new SDLC and a new framework of what we were going to do. And as we continue to progress and grow. And we got new leaders in, we got a lot of experience. The time was right for us to go back to cross functional teams with the right leaders kind of leading those teams. And so now we’re really focused on incremental delivery and you know, really delivering as fast as we possibly can, our end product. Um, and then giving all the control. And this is, you know, from the dev ops standpoint, giving all the control back to the teams and letting them kinda run in their own environment with their own SDLC and their own gate checks and making sure that they’re responsible for their own work. And that’s really what I think every application development team wants. And so that’s, I, that’s another good point you bring up like moving fast. Like I don’t think people realize how, when you say moving fast, how fast that is. Like you were, I think the last time you were on, you talked about the CIO symposium, you spoke out where like people are Speaker 1: talking about dev cycles at nine months and you kind of laughed and yeah. But I mean, when you talk about moving fast, I guess walk me through what’s, what’s your expectations? Speaker 4: It’s a little hard, but my, I mean I would say my expectations are, we should, so if we have sprints that are two weeks and you know, I mean we should be planning properly and we should be deploying and we should, you know, be accountable for what we do during that timeframe. But when I say move fast, I mean I want to, we were in a very unique situation where we only have one client and that client is the business, the business of UWM. And so we make sure that we do everything on a dime and when the business says we want to change this and we want to do it now, it’s why we write all of our own software. It’s why we try to stay completely vendor agnostic. And if we could not use vendors at any point from a technology standpoint is because we don’t want to be bound to anything that we do. So when I say move fast, it’s, Hey Bob, if I need to make a change today, then within 24 hours I’d like that written. I’d like a user story out. I want it developed, I want to test it and then I want to make sure that it goes through through all the gate checks and then it gets deployed into, in new production that quickly. Sure. Speaker 1: Um, and I think that’s one of the things we’re not, when I, when I see the things I see everyday is like the growing pains of being in an organization that we didn’t plan on being a huge enterprise. I’ll just go kind of shifting it to, to enterprise technology. You know, you weren’t on the radar for the Cisco’s and the peers and the Microsoft, right. Like a year and a half year, year and a half ago. And now you are, you know, they want to fly you out to San Jose to go to the vet. You know, the management meetings. They want you to, you know, you’re an enterprise client, they want you to have weekly meetings. And you know, I guess is, is that a, is that a good thing or did you like flying under the radar? Speaker 4: Uh, I love flying under the radar. I think that’s the best way to do it. Um, um, at the end of the day, I hate attention and I would like to stay as humble as we possibly can. And I mean that from even an enterprise technology standpoint. And the only way that you can really move very quickly is to make sure that nobody really cares what you do until they expect you to do the best all the time. And that’s really where we are right now. And so from an enterprise technology standpoint, we’ve really, you know, and, and, and again, you’re, you’re a Testament to this is once you find the right people and you can drive and motivate and cultivate the right environment and you work in a, in an environment where we basically say, if it makes sense, go do it. Yeah. So get out right now by what you need to do, get the licensing and try it. And if it works, let’s continue to build off of it. And if it doesn’t, just learn from it really quickly and then tell us what’s next. Speaker 1: I’ve never seen it in my life like that. Like you need to go pee. Oh, you need to go get that. Go ahead, go get it. It’s to me it’s like not insane, but it’s go, you need a tool, you need to go get it. You know, you can’t hit good out of the sand, go buy yourself a decent sandwich. Like, you know. Um, but yeah, the just seeing the, the what the, I wouldn’t even call it a trial and error. It’s, it’s go get what you need to get. Um, how do you, how do you want to, you know, the business is uptime for us. Sure. Um, you know, we need our customers Speaker 4: on all that. Cause that’s the one, the one thing that was eyeopening to me is, you know, Hey, we’re 30, 32 35% of the market for wholesale mortgages. When we go down, the market goes down, industry goes down the industry. Right. And it’s like living with that on your shoulders. I mean, you know, the, the stupid cliche is, Hey Jason, what keeps you up at night? Yeah, exactly. But that’s got a way on you. I mean, have you as the head that wears the crown. And that’s the thing is, you know, like we’re supporting so many brokers, tens of thousands of brokers across the country where we do all of this and we give it to them because we really think that they’re a better option for consumers. Like we are legitimately trying to do the right thing. And so when you do that, and it’s a being a product of your own success, when you get so successful at delivering quality software and quality technology to people that could never afford it or didn’t even know what it was, when, when, when you go down there, whole world’s over, they have no idea what to do. Speaker 4: And so we have to always be up all the time and always be 10 steps ahead of the game to make sure that we’re on top of that. And that’s one of the things, from an enterprise technology standpoint, it’s really easy to get seduced by the newest thing or what’s next or somebody chirping in your ear of, Hey, you should try this. Well that’s a th that’s why flying under the radar is such a better thing because when you got a clear roadmap and you’ve got a clear vision and you stick to it, then those ancillary things just kind of pop in and out as it happens instead of everybody just chasing whatever the next big thing. So, you know, we don’t chase whatever the next big thing is. We are the next big thing. And so we kind of dictate what we want to do and then we let people kind of fit into that model. Speaker 4: So what’s a, so here’s the big thing is the AME conferences see what is association of independent mortgage brokers or whatever last a year that were a few months ago. Actually, I think it was like a, but it was brand three 60 was kind of like an automated marketing engine for, for brokers, right? Um, this year, the big plans for, I know we can’t talk about it, but [inaudible] are you excited about what’s coming out? Absolutely. I mean, it’s going to be huge for the industry. It’s going to be absolutely massive for our broker partners and we’re really excited. We’ve been working on it for awhile and we’re really excited to release it at aim for sure. Yeah. No, I, I mean Tiffany had said, I mean, uh, you know, the, the one thing I wanted to talk about, I think it’s funny now that I’m a on the other end of the stick on LinkedIn and it’s amazing to me how bad salespeople are and I’m getting these messages. Speaker 4: It’s like looking at yourself in the mirror. I’ve, I’ve, I, I was never that bad. Like that’s true. I did get asked, can you introduce me to Jason Bressler was, and you are connected to him on LinkedIn. I’m like, yeah, but it’s, it’s, I wish there would be a class to like, you know, I would like to talk to you how to, how we could have helped other companies such as United shore with their automation needs. It’s like, do you ever see a, there’s a thing called deck.com the bullshit generator now and uh, it was like from the dotcom days, but it still exists and it was like every press release written in like 2002 to 2004 hit this button and it was like synergize E platform. Uh, you know, and it was the, one of the funniest things. This is the crap that I get Speaker 1: to me. Like I can’t believe every four day, I can’t imagine what you have to go, how many voicemails you have to delete every day. Speaker 4: I don’t even get through the voicemails and even the LinkedIn messages are basically for the most part, if they’re like that they’re deleted. I do occasionally, and I almost hate to say, cause we’ll see what happens from it. But I did get, somebody sent me an iPad with a full customized message, which it was fantastic of me, my history, full blown iPad, full blown iPad with, and it just said press play. And I press play. And it was this, it was a sales woman and she went on, she knew everything about me, everything about my history, everything about UWM, how we grew, what we did. And basically was like, Hey, we just want to help. So all I’m asking you to do is just call back and just let us talk to you. And at that point, how do you not, right? Like how do you not, when somebody takes that kind of care and time to do something that’s not like the RC car and you’re like, call me and I’ll give you the remote. Yeah, I remember those days. That was fun. When I got my first one in that there was such a mistake to call back. Do you ever get a pair of shoes? I never got a pair of shoes. I just want to get my foot in the door. Speaker 1: Ah, so Matt just, uh, uh, I guess, you know, we talked a little bit about, um, the, you know, the hiring spree and needing to hire, I want to talk to you about how you’ve hired, we went and we went through some numbers on all the people that talent is brought through. Like hiring three, you know, there’s goals down here, 3000 people at your, how many did you hire in 2019? The team, Speaker 5: the team, uh, 3000, 27. Speaker 1: So how, how so I see you all walking around giving you, so you don’t just, this isn’t just a cheap interview. You, you’re doing tours, you’re meeting, you know, the leads. How do you hire and you don’t have that huge of a team. It’s a decent size team. But like how do you go about hiring that many people? Speaker 4: Wow. That’s a question. Open ended, you know. Exactly. Speaker 5: Um, so you know, as you mentioned, the team size, so everyone, including the associate recruiters who are supporting the recruiters and the leaders, all of us total out to about 40 people, which were added throughout last year. So you’ve got to be really creative with how you move forward through these processes. And I think we have a really solid leadership team from uh, the talent leadership. So they came up with a couple ideas like doing, interviewing blitzes, uh, the late afternoon hours for some of these positions like underwriting and closing, uh, where we’re willing to train people and we’re looking for them to have a certain level of excellent expectations for their education. But they’ll bring them in and we’ll take them through, we’ll give them a full tour of the building, go through all the benefits with them, take them through a screen, make sure they’re a fit for that. Speaker 5: And in terms of it, we did the two career fairs last year, which we netted a few people but you know, specifically to it. So a lot of grinding. So company-wide we have about, I wish I had the number off the top of my head, but it’s right around between 55 and 60% of our hires under being referrals. So the referral process is huge for us. And that’s something we’ve tried to increase incentives, increase our incentives in this year with the new referral program where if you refer somebody and then they refer somebody, it kind of trickles back up to you. So that’s, that’s a big, big area for us. And the only way you get referrals is if people enjoy working for your competition. So it says a lot about United shore as a whole, being that over half the people we hire end up being referred in by people who work there. Speaker 1: And that’s the biggest challenge I see in, in it recruitment. And I don’t know how you guys filter it out, but we see like, you know, they have all the certs, they check all the boxes, they, they’ve done the, they, they list off everything that they’re looking for. Then you get them in a room and ask them a question and they’re like, well no, I didn’t really work on that. Or like you have it written down right here. It’s on your skill. You know, I guess obviously it’s frustrating, but how do you filter through that? Speaker 5: Yeah. So we, I think we have some really good efficient processes set up at this point. Obviously we’re always trying to improve them, make them better and make them easy as possible and the candidate. So I’ll give you an example. Um, from the app dev side, when we’re interviewing experienced and that candidates were, I’m going to talk to them, find out what they’re looking for, um, why they’re looking to leave a job, the basic recruiting questions, and then we’re gonna dive into some high level object oriented questions. And I’m going to kind of figure out, you know, what does this person using on a day to day basis? I don’t want to grill them super hard, but they’re, if their salary expectations are at a certain level and they’re not able to answer some pretty basic questions, you kinda get the sense from there. And so, um, one thing we’ve done to make it easier on the candidate, once we go through that data and gather that we actually use an online code assessment tool, which has, uh, for this, for their net positions, there’s an hour time limit on it. Speaker 5: So basically two questions. So write out your code and C sharp, we want to be able to review it and we’re not really as concerned about you getting, you know, all 20 test cases right on it. But we want to understand how you solve the problem and why you want through it that way even if you didn’t get all of them. Um, and then we’d bring you in for a face to face interview. That’d be about an hour and a half of your time. So really on the candidate side, it’s an hour and a half of their time. We get all that screening before they go to the leadership team. So I’ve got a code assessment, I’ve got my high level, uh, object oriented questions, I know their salary info and everything else and we can determine before investing too much time to that person. Is this the right fit? Speaker 1: Yeah. It’s funny, I just got brought into a, the Bax interviews in the BA. If you don’t know what that is, the BA, it’s kind of like an entry level to be a move into a business analyst role. And it’s funny to me like half the people like, here’s a math problem. I want you to figure this out. Don’t have a pen or paper. Um, here’s a, I want you to put together, I want to see how you, you know, and then you know, halfway through, Oh my God, I’m so frustrated. Like, you know, just internalize that. You know what I mean? It’s just funny to me. Not funny, but it’s just like, it’s one on one stuff and you know, I mean I will respond Speaker 3: pressure differently though. So, you know, some people aren’t good test takers, they’re not going to do well under pressure for like, Hey, write these 20 test cases in an hour. Is it because they don’t test well they don’t get the job or is it, you know, something you take into consideration like, you know, personality wise, like, uh, you know, you leaving them in a room with an assignment, they’re good. You say, Hey, you’ve got an hour to finish this and all of a sudden, you know, they’re shut down because they’re worried about the pressure. Speaker 5: Well with the, with the, with the coding test that’s done on their own time and at their own

Well, if you're looking for a new job in the information technology field, you're probably going to want to keep this event next week in mind.  Listen in as the CTO and lead recruiter talk about the upcoming job fair for United Shore's open IT positions... Details at: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/united-shore-it-career-fair-march-4-2020-registration-91911982213 Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? This is episode three 36 of the it and the D show guests this week include Jason Bressler. He is the CTO Matt Turner. He is one of the head recruiters of United shore mortgage. They're putting on a career fair on March 4th over 300 open it positions, everything from coding to networking. They're going to be talking all about it. You're going to Snowmageddon in Detroit and we got a lot of funny stories and Dave, you may fire when ready. Hey, what's happening? What's going on? This is episode three 36 of the one and only it in the D show. We are broadcasting live here in studio one podcast. He threatened beautiful snowy Royal Oak, Michigan spot. The sales guy. That is Dave the geek. Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters, find us online it and the D. dot com and do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials, subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts Speaker 2: or sold. Hey, so what do we have? We got a the Anarbor event coming up on, uh, three, three, uh, I forget. I always forget the odd even thing. I should have that memorized by now and I just don't two years now. Yeah, I am. I, my brain refuses to commit that to memory. Uh, and then we had, uh, well the next one is, uh, the 19th that will be at the cozy lounge. Uh, and they are really kind of dorked about us being there. And not only that, they're named for one of the best burgers in Southeastern Michigan. Yeah. They were like one of the, yeah, the one of the top 10 burgers, right? Like, Oh my God, they're so cool. I agree. And I would like James [inaudible] from Mabel gray who was like, I think he's James Beard. He's one of the top chefs in, yeah. Speaker 2: He like swears by their chicken biscuits. So like that honestly, God for, it's a little dive bar. It's a little townie bar, but they've transformed that they can do like kind of a cool little place, great little place. And we're looking forward to it. And, and you know, and then the last week we had our event at Woodbridge pub. Um, really? Well, that was the first time I remember being there. I haven't been there before, but I haven't been since my Wayne state days. Oh yeah. And, and like that place like just brought back tons of, yeah. It was phenomenal. Like love that place, love to go back. Everybody was like, it couldn't have been happier and it was yet another one. That's like, a lot of the people that showed up were like, Oh my God, heard about this place. Never been here. Really digging it. Speaker 2: And they have decent sipping room and you know, and they have food as long as you don't want the chicken wings. No chicken wings. Yeah. Chicken wings are gone. I was in the mode, but then I had, I ordered that chicken one tons. That sounds weird. All over to that. And it's chicken egg rolls. It's like you take the bottom of chicken soup and you slab in an egg roll and it was actually pretty good anyway. Yeah. Looking forward to it. Looking forward to cozy. It should be good. Um, and then, Hey, uh, just on a personal note, I would be remiss if I didn't mention, um, Hey, rest in peace. Kelly Tucker, uh, great guy. Uh, local, uh, I mean he, he did, uh, stuff with us back in the raw radio X days. Uh, he was a sound guy over at the Ritz downtown at st Andrews. Speaker 2: He did stuff out at diesel. Uh, Kate, one of our engineers actually went to graduated specs wait time. A lot of people touch a lot of lives. They, I was, uh, if you read his wall today, man, touching a lot of lives. Yeah. Great. Great guy. Gone too. Damn soon. Uh, so rest easy bro. So Honda, funny, yucky cheats.

Well, it’s almost time for our first con of the year, so let’s dive in with the Astronomicon crew to talk about their third annual event, and then there’s a fundraiser for Australian wildlife threatened by the fires Friday night over at Whiskey in the Jar… Astronomicon is at https://www.astronomicon.com/ The Outback Give Back is at https://www.facebook.com/events/2495538064053334/ Wave’s invoicing solution is at http://www.waveapps.com/ITintheD The BankUnited $54,000 giveaway can be entered by following  @BankUnited on Twitter and tweet @BankUnited your answer to “what would you do with 54 thousand dollars?”, using the hashtag #GoForMore54 CapitalOne is at http://www.capitalone.com Hey, welcome to episode 332 of the it and the D show a strap on your seatbelts. This one’s going to be a fun one. We got Mike and Dustin in the house talking astronomic on coming up. February 7th and eighth at the Wyndham garden in Sterling Heights. The all star lineup of guests that’s coming to this thing is sick and this is one of the, literally my favorite comic con of the year. We’re going to talk a lot more about it and we’ve got August gets like in the house. Uh, he’s got a cool a benefit they’re doing called Outback. Give back, uh, helping out, uh, people affected in Australia. We were going to a steakhouse. Yes. Cool. Bio bloomin’ on you get 15, 15% get dedicated, uh, donated to Australia. Um, you know what on that? No. You may fire when ready? Welcome back. Thanks for hanging out with us. This is episode 332 of the one and only IT in the D show. Broadcasting live here. Studio one in podcast. He tried and beautiful Royal Oak, Michigan. This is Bob the sales guy. Hey, always hanging out with Dave, the geek Ranee I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter’s finding us online it in the d.com and do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold, right. So what do we got? We got a, we got the Ann Arbor event coming up on the fourth. Well first off I went, I want to thank Detroit Detroit city distillery. That was our first time going there. Yeah, last week. Last Thursday. Um, and it’s the perfect bed. We’ve packed the place. Holy crap. Well it’s the perfect venue for what we do. Uh, I think we, we brought in about 50 ish people. Uh, not that person all there at five o’clock. Holy crap. It was weird. They were all there at five o’clock. It’s in right in Eastern market. Uh, it’s the perfect venue. I’ve do, I’ve gone ahead and booked once a quarter for the rest of the year for that place. I’ve, I look forward to going back there and I thank you to the staff or the parking lot. No. Great. Everybody loved it. And again, it was one of those things where people were like, Oh my God, I’ve never been here before. Keep hearing about it. Keep meaning to go here. Yeah. I love it. I think the only, cause that’s kind of the, one of the sidewalls of our meetings and I think the only complaint I heard was that some people’s nav took them the wrong direction on Rio poll. Oh, that’s fine. Yeah, fine. Whatever. Uh, but no, so, uh, the fourth, uh, is the Anarbor event. Uh, principal probably pretzel, but I was gay. Uh, so, yep. And uh, and then, Oh geez. And after that we will be at go figure astronomic con, uh, the following weekend, uh, or actually that weekend. Uh, and then our next event, uh, in Metro Detroit is going to be at the Woodward troub on the 20th. And yeah, that’s the scoop. That’s my story. I’m sticking to it cause I remember to set it up for the third Thursday. Not the fourth Thursday. That’s fine. It’s fine. It’s like saying I put him on the pepperoni pizza. I’m so stupid. Or put him on it to meet on the pizza. Just deal with it. Still felt dumped. My um, one of it is my favorite article of the week and this one hit home didn’t hit home, but you read it and you’re like, and it’s basically called the day Microsoft office turned into malware and Microsoft, if you’re not lucky dude, I’m trying to figure out, you’re going to screw the pooch with this one. This is, this falls squarely into that whole like do they not remember 15 years ago will antitrust thing? Probably not. Well here, let me, let me start. Let me start. What’s going on? Is it yesterday? Basically we got a office three 65 message center notifications by email and here was a change coming to the future version of pro plus. It’s basically roadmap number five, nine nine one seven for those keeping score at home, extension of Microsoft searching Bing to be installed to office three 65 pro plus customers. Basically it’s starting with version 2002 for old three 65 pro plus. They’re going to automatically and without your consent, install a browser extension in Chrome and Firefox. It sets your default search engine to bang. Yup. And you I can kiss my ass cause and for those who you know, who might not remember about 15 years ago, there was the whole antitrust litigation, uh, because Microsoft forced you to install internet Explorer wouldn’t have any of the other browsers yet. Eight yada. And like basically everybody knew the running joke was you fired up. I, he once went and downloaded Chrome. Uh, and then you never used IEE ever again back then you downloaded Firefox or whatever. Yeah. Well do you want to make G suite of thing? Cause this is how you make G suite of things. Oh for sure. A couple of things though. This is only enterprise customers. This isn’t your, every, your mom and dad’s office subscription at home. Nobody has office subscriptions at home office three 65, no radio. It impacts everybody from what I understand. No, it’s just enterprise customers, enterprise customers. And there’s a group policy that the administrators can push out that will prevent it from happening. It’s all three 65 pro plus. Okay. And you can prevent it from happening. But the benefit of this is that it will search across your, uh, enterprise SharePoint and one drive and everything. So it’ll show you relevant company results in your search term. So if you go search, are you really, are you really saying this is good? It’s, you’re taking that stance. I’m not saying, I’m saying, you know, who had that technology, you know, had it AltaVista had that tech. Google has that tech. Yeah. But if it’s integrated with your system, like this is, if you’re running office, then you’re using SharePoint and you’re running in one drive and you want search results from those won’t return. So the, it’s an extension that can be prevented, can be removed. But the enabling it by default is the bad part. I’m going to quote Gretchen wieners. I’ve never done that before. Stop trying to make big happen. It’s not going to happen. Never gonna happen. Did she say that or did the one with a mole on her cheek? I forget. I the one with the mall on her. Oh, what the hell is her name? Oh, dammit. I just wanted to say Wiener on the under the podcast. Of course you did. Uh, so, but in that same vein, so Microsoft, you know, we talked about this last week, so we can have wieners [inaudible] nice. So you know, we talked about how they, you know, they, they dropped, uh, you know, Microsoft windows seven became unsupported until it wasn’t, but, but then you have, what was it, Germany that paid, um, 900,000, 900 grand to keep it supported. Uh, and then even though they said it wasn’t supported, they had to release a support patch for it because tiled wallpapers were broken and people weren’t doing it. They’re just like, no, like, it like really, like literally that was apparently the only thing that was broken tiled wallpapers and they had to issue a patch for it. Uh, your desktop wallpaper might display as black when set to stretch. It’s Microsoft stretched, not tall. It’s still, well no, it’s affecting stretch wallpapers and fill a fit fill. Tyler center options are still being worked. Working on for a is why the computers at city hall have to go down for an hour tomorrow and Hamtramck so we can patch all of our windows seven so we can’t stretch or yeah, come on. Hey, still better than the city who for the longest time was the largest single windows Emmy in solid A’s. Just saying. And then, Hey, let’s just go for the trifecta. We’ll just stick with the Microsoft team and get this story out of the way. Uh, 250 million Microsoft customer records leaked. Yay. Who’s shocked? Anybody? Not anymore with anybody. Was it a, was it just an open file on somebody? One drive, 250 customer records spanning 14 years exposed online without password protection? Um, I don’t even know where to start with this. Um, and like where do they come from? This thing’s like a mile long book of, of w did you, did you see where the seat these things came from? Um, it’s metadata. It’s not all the personal crap was supposedly redacted, allegedly. Allegedly. It’s, no, it, I’m, I’m quite sure it is everything that’s out there. Um, so I, I did, I love this, uh, just because I’ve gone down this wormhole so hard, uh, the Disney app was far and away the most downloaded app in the fourth quarter. And how has that news anyway, somebody knows. And it was the most uninstalled after everyone watched lion King the third time and Mandalorian was done in another, like, all right, I’m done. Ah, see lot, I think a lot of people were saying that and then nobody actually did it. Why? Cause like everybody I know got their free year through the Verizon reason. I haven’t canceled YouTube after Cobra, Kai, because you’re too lazy to go. Effing canceled. They know it, but not the dude. I told you I went down. So here’s an, so actually, here’s my bitch about Disney plus. Um, so, you know, I’ve gone through, I went back and started bingeing the star Wars cartoons, uh, as am I right now just for this rebels? I’m in the middle of resistance. Okay. So, so like it would have been nice to know that there was a clone Wars animated movie before there was a clone Wars animated show. Cause a couple of the questions that I had about the show were answered by the movie that I found after I watched the show. And I know Randy, you’re gonna tell me the same thing you told me before, which is there’s a through the years, which is supposed to be the timeline that’s all out of order and out of sync. Like I don’t know who put that shit together. The movies, not cannon. Is that it? No movies can so, but no, like as I’m working my way through them cause after you finish. So I’m trying to make it all the way through it. Uh, there’s all the stupid Lego Yoda Chronicles ones, which I don’t think those are candidates. I don’t care. It’s in the through the years time. Cause I you said that and I’m like, okay, well I’ll just go watch it in that order. They’re all backwards. Like the last episode is first and then it jumps and then it plays like the last three episodes in reverse order and then it jumps ahead and then it plays like it’s just all screwed up. Disney pluses weird. Like it has like the uh, the pilot episode of darkwheel duck is like episode 28 or something like that. So I’m saying like if you’re gonna, if you’re going to have the nerve to say, here’s the timeline, Disney plus there to figure that one out. It’s a thing. But no. So yeah, you clone Wars was great. Rebels was getting, I’m getting ready to start resistance. I’m not a fan so far I’ve heard that, but I also wasn’t a fan of early rebels. I thought it was too childish too kid. And then it gets into more adult themes. It gets a little darker and I thought it was more fun. It gets more, more relevant to the future of the star Wars franchise. I think I’m waiting for resistance to take that turn where it becomes relevant to the first days. Yeah. So one of the ones I found interesting as you know, when you’re a kid and you’re like, when I grow up, you know, I want to be a mid level it manager at a half-assed company. Right. I want a cop. Well it wasn’t that a Superbowl commercial on my way to the middle management. No, that was um, CRN did one, uh, when I was in the it vendors who want to be a yes man. Now I want to work for a V a R I want to do a startup and build it up and sell it to Cisco and then do it all over again. Um, but apparently, uh, it was kind of shocking. They always ask, Hey kids, what do you want to be when you grow up? Teenagers, right? Like you kind of have an idea, well guess what, 39% of what they picked, um, are pretty much going to be automated and gone totally hit the work jobs in 10 years time. So by the time they get to be like 23, 24 and they’re going to be actually working professionals, uh, these jobs are going to be gone. So most of them, like if they looked at, and the funny thing is like from year to two, I’m convinced that nothing has changed since the year 2000 to today. Clothes, music, like TV, like nothing except for like some basic technology and streaming media. Pretty much the movies, there is no like weird Shara music. There’s no like nothing close are pretty much everyone’s dressing the same. Um, but basically everyone, it’s the same thing. Like in 2000, it was, you know, teachers in, uh, you know, business managers and engineers and doctors. Then you go through it and it’s pretty much the same crap is today. Um, but a lot of the things that are going to, um, writers, journalists, cause we talked about AI replacing Uber driver. I want to be, yeah, exactly. I want a side hustle. But if you look at, the only thing that’s really going to stick around is, is you have local doctors, lawyers, teachers. Um, what did I want to be when I was growing up? And there’s two acceptable answers. You’d know me pretty well as what, what would I, what do I, it’s I think people guess it right away. Campaign manager for Walter Mondale, close president. Oh, I was going to go yet politics of some sort when I was in fifth grade, my teacher told him he’s gonna be president. I said, yeah. And I went with it. Yeah, they didn’t say the slop. They though of Hamtramck. Right. Stop right there. Listen, I met the PTA teach. Well then I got to a point where I was gonna be a theater major. My dad said, I’m not helping you with college if you’re going to do that. So I went in the politics and fooled them saying, yeah, it absolutely is. That kind of goes back to my thing where, okay, if automation is replacing the desk clerk at McDonald’s, they still need to go learn how to code kiosks and repair kiosks and you know, go, go, go do that. And there’s still food runners. It’s not like they’re taking, the jobs are shifting, they’re not taking anything away. There’s still job growth. Um, so yeah, hashtag learn to code. Remember when that was bad. Oh, I know there was backlash about that cause huge back. Helping people to learn to code is apparently offensive. Awful. Yeah. So this company, Cruz, I, I’m intrigued like, so they’re basically building automated driverless vehicles, but they’re not just driverless. Like there’s no steering wheel, there’s no pedals. So if something goes wrong, there’s nothing there for a human being to jump in and try to save the day. It was really, really good airbags I guess. Like I don’t, I’ll never get inside of it. It’s a, it’s a GI, uh, Johnny car from, uh, uh, it is totally call it whatever you call it. I just reading it made me nervous and none. I get it. They’re going to be like geo-fence and they’re only in good weather and they can only go so far and they only use for like ride sharing and commuting. So then you’re on it and it starts raining and it just stops. And then what? See, here’s, here’s what they call it. Like Waymo, Google’s, um, they use a level, they call it level three autonomy cause they still need human backup operators who can take control in emergencies. Right. Which is what I want need. Well, even the whole like, dude, even Teslas tell you, you’re supposed to still have your hands on the wheel even when it’s in self-driving mode. Well, let me, let me retract my statement. Since GM just announced that 2200 jobs in Hamtramck with their new electric vehicle. Yeah. Here’s the stupid thing about the crews. So I think that back, I’m going to get in as soon as, as soon as it’s made out by giant or not. Here’s the stupid thing. The cruise vehicles, they’re calling it level four autonomy and they’ll go, there’ll be geo-fence that they’ll only be limited operating in mapped areas in relatively good weather. Yeah, they want you to take that instead of the bus in the morning and it’s going to be the Disney shuttle. It’s going to be and be like the minivan. So basically we will never have them in Michigan. No, no. Yeah, yeah. I don’t see it as a big thing in our climate, even though the climate is changing. I’d never get one. So gray and overcast and rainy days in January have just been one ugly March. Uh, it, you know what, I’ll take it though. I need to tell you last through February 7th. Oh, there you go. Well, you always [inaudible] on that question. Here’s the thing, like usually dumb business ideas. Usually someone talks about it a barn and it never makes it to the light of day. Um, and now the new, the new hotness apparently is pet Flix and chill. Um, and it’s basically a, did I went and looked some of these up. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of in my life. Basically it’s, it’s, it’s you, you’re going to get a special playlist specifically for your dog, cat or hamster. That’s Spotify. So that Spotify, the specific music for your animal or legal to like Amazon? Yeah. Prime or even YouTube and look up like TV for pets. Now you’re on forever. Okay. Does the chill part come in? But the first three, I mean, but the first [inaudible] that I scanned through all had like squirrels and shit running around in them. Do my dog in a crate, sees a squirrel come on the TV. You have children in cages at your house. Dog. He’s gonna lose his mind. So you’re getting them all hyped up for nothing. Yeah, exactly. He’s going to lose his mind and go bad shit. Crazy. Cause he sees a squirrel like I know like the nest cams where you can like check in and say hi to it. Like Doug, what’d you think? That shell thing out. Michelle does it all the time. Ghost of my human beings talk to it sends a little lasers around so she gets off the couch and watch. I was thinking you would put on something like air bud or inspirational to, you know, come home last nice Beethoven’s third like Turner and hooch. Just think, just think right now there’s a product dev department and all these different companies on how we can have our products being used by people. Does a plot point in Scrooged like didn’t the old man want to start pet programming? Like will they just just have somebody instead of Kojak with a lollipop, have somebody dangle a piece of cheese on a string to, to entice mice and cats to what? It’s bad enough. They put them in those godawful like Halloween costumes, these pets or they throw cheese at their heads. These people are cruel as shit to their enemy. Bull reruns. Puppy. I tried to watch that documentary. I’m one of the puppy bowls boycott of the puppy bowl. Speaking of someone’s been listening, we’ve been talking about this since the 80s and we’re like, if you want me to go shopping with my goddamn wife at the red, Macy’s put a bar in the bar. Right? Well guess what? Someone had this epiphany now that Nordstrom, um, basically they’re, they’re calling it the shoe bar. Um, Oh, I’m sorry. The shoe bar was empty. And they’re like, well, what can we do? Like, let’s put a bar there, bar like an actual bar bar. Um, so now they’re basically having drinks, but like they say it’s for the women’s shopping. No, no, no. Let me know when they add a casino. Right, right. I’m sure you can bet on like different things. Like I bet she comes home with two pairs of shoes, not like going into the dressing room. Like I bet it don’t fit like 50 bucks. I’m always betting on don’t fit. No, I remember bars and malls, like I was always a little, there was always a bar Tuesday, but there was something in the malls that were like, and then there was always the snack counters in the, in the soda fountains at Sears and stuff like that. Well that was my favorite part of commando when they went into the mall, they go, it’s like they go into the bar and it’s like the smokey dive bar, like right in the middle. Like an Abercrombie and Fitch, like in like in this middle section of the mall. And there’s like all these like characters, the smokey, you know, like some all head. One of those kids. There was one at universal mall. It was a tiny little strip bar right across from the theater for when I worked there. When I was at Lakeside. Jonathan B pub was a tiny little one right in the middle of the mall and made no sense it wasn’t accessible from the outside. 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Sweet. So, Hey, we are joined by, I was good. I didn’t mean it like that. We are joined by none other than Mike and Dustin. The duo. Hello. Putting on the third annual astronomic con. This is going to be February 7th through the ninth this year at the Sterling Heights. Wyndham garden 15 in van Dyke. Gentlemen, it’s always a pleasure to see you guys. How you doing? We call it mingle. Palooza, mingle. On top of that, it’s always like crappiest weather ever. It’s like six inches of ice and rain and slush. And last year it was like 50 degrees Fridays we were sitting out. No, I was sitting out. That was the joke. I was sitting outside on the cold bricks cause I felt good on my hemorrhoids. It’s like I was saying that to anyone that would listen. I’m like, I like sitting on these bricks because it’s great for my hemorrhoids and like anyone within earshot would hear me, they’ll be like, ah, it’s good for my hemorrhoids too. I love it. You too. So is this thing’s turned into like an all year thing for you guys? Has it not? It’s a tough one. It’s, it’s definitely something that I know at least Mike works. Uh, eight months out of the year on, I see you guys everywhere. We are like, you guys are hustling. You guys are at every con. You guys are at every event. We love it. Like you’re straight, straight up hustling. We’re trying, we’re trying to grow and I feel like the way we do things is different than most other conventions and you know, we’re, we’re trying to sell it, you know what I mean? We’re a convention of the people and that’s, you know, we go there and meet the people and, and want to see what they want. There was a, there was a reason I got, I fell in love with the indie wrestling, independent wrestling, and it was the intimacy of it. It was, you’re in a, in a small little banquet hall, 500 people and you actually got to shake hands and you got to yell at the wrestler and then he would acknowledge you right at the trying to make them crack. Right, right. Yeah. It’s better than like going, you know, Ford field and no one can hear you. You’re just like, there’s an instance like this show, you can go to the Cobo hall, 10 billion square feet, or like this show is, is, is, it’s, we’re on, everyone’s on top of each other and, and that’s the beautiful part of it. It’s like, it’s an intimate setting and it’s like, but you, you guys, I’m not gonna lie, you guys knocked it out of the park this year. Like you gotta I thought the first year you’d knocked it out of the park with the guest lineup. Last year you guys killed it. And this year I think you went, Oh, well you totally want up yourself. That’s, that’s a, uh, essentially in part due to the guy sitting next to me, Mike and George, uh, they, they know how to talk to people and get these people in that we want, uh, everything else, you know, as far as astronomic con’s format goes to is, is something that we, we have strived for for years. We, we, we make it for the people and you know, the people that, that go to these things to have fun. Well, during, during the break or before we got here, I’m like, you guys got, if you’re a wrestling fan, you know who Alexa Blisses, right? Uh, top five of the, you know, the, the women’s division and WWE and I’m like, how did you pull that shit off the scholar warrior? And it’s been a lot of work. But the nice thing is, is because we are fans, we know what people want to see. So whether it’s wrestling, horror, pop culture or comics, like in our group of people who handle astronomic on, there is a fan of all fandoms. So it’s like, all right, we’ll have a round table discussion. Like, who do you want to see? Who should we go after? And we get told no, but some people won’t come to February, Michigan. Some people don’t work before March because they don’t need to. And we try to work around that to our best of our abilities and really go out there and try to get those unattainable people. Because again, if I’m only going to one convention a year, I want it to be worth my while. Well you guys, you guys did something that no other convention did and I appreciate you doing this. And I think a lot of other people do too. You put the price list out for what everyone’s charging for everything. So now, you know, cause there’s sometimes you’re like, Oh crap, so-and-so’s charging. So I gotta go to the ATM and now you know, you can plot out who you need to see what you need to pay for bringing the appropriate money. Cause you know it’s going to cost an arm and a leg these days. Um, but you know what you’re doing most. Most, I say regular folk who are not familiar with going to cons or anything, don’t realize how conventions work. Like most people will think, you know, I paid my 20 bucks to get in and I just, I meet everybody and get all these autographs and get all these pictures and, and [inaudible] and that’s one of the thoughts that goes into the hidden things. Like we’re trying to, you know, try it out. I gotcha. You’re here now. Like we’re not trying to do that. We put it all out there. This is, this is how it works. And the guests that we bring, we really do try to coax into making it as affordable as possible because we know when you go to these big conventions, you’re seeing these people who are charging North of $100 for an autograph or a photo. We want to be looked at as more affordable for your everyday person like us. If I can go there with 100 bucks in my pocket and meet a couple of people as opposed to not being able to afford to meet one person and be like, Oh that’s the Hey, Nope. And it’s not like a Cedar point line either. The lions are not stanchions and you’re going left and right and left and right. Like you’re at the bank. It’s you’re, you’re essentially walking right by these people within five to 10 feet. So it’s like, even if you can’t afford it, you can be like, Oh man, there’s my man 50 grand. Like I’m going to say hi and wave and you’ll get a response. It’s again, the intimacy is legit. I mean like last year you had Debo, I should’ve called him Zeus cause I’m a rustling vital, but it’s Debo, however. So then you’re like ease except he sits in cracks on ya and he’s doing like yelling from across the room. Right. I mean cause this is the thing like I, all my stories are from astronomical, like Scott Hall turning off the bathroom with me and Erica too. He said that to his, his handlers. One of my best friends, his name is Nick. He’s like, Hey, you want to see something dark match and he flicks the lights out. But everybody yourself included is just you’re dealing with it. And then the same, uh, another similar experience talking about a tiny Lister when I took him to go do a, you know, news interview in the morning and we get to the front and the security guys there and he’s like, Hey, so can I help you? And I started off with my spiel, Oh, we’re here to see blah blah blah and this and, and the guy looks in and tiny just looks at him. He’s like, yeah, Hey, you know who I am? I’ve been here, the guy looks in and he’s like, alright, [inaudible] no, your deal. Oh for sure. And that was a big dude. Like there was a guy at the bar and he’s like, I didn’t know who he was from Adam. And I’m telling him where to get the pizza. And then I’m like, I walked by like, Oh shit, that was Michael Myers. Tony, my wife was there. And I’m like, I told that guy where to get pizza. Like you said, buddies, right? Yeah, of course. Okay, good. I said there’s like three different places to go. Pizza, pizza, sponsor. Okay. Pizza. Populist. I’m totally gonna add, can’t wait to drive that. GM autonomous can totally get out. Who sent him to jail? Right now I have my categories. So I said for like fast takeout, jets is Supreme. Like, you know, you have the different levels. If you want to sit down and do a list like this, you gotta be in the demoed. You know what I mean? Sometimes I want a little Caesar’s hot and ready. Sometimes I gotta have my, if you’ve ever sent anyone at my show too hot and ready, if you’re close enough to a hot and ready, if there’s a hot radio question, is it good? It’s hot. It’s ed. It’s ready. It’s substance. So how did you get, how did you get Randall from CLA? Like this is the first time that those two are together. Like if you don’t know what I’m talking about, that’s you. Randall and Dante clerk’s convention. He has ever done, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, never done a San Diego first. Never done anything versus first ever convention. And it’s timing and it’s, it’s a, it’s a combination of getting lucky. I’m not going to lie cause I know like, uh, Walt Maine was telling us Walt just won’t travel. It’s like he hadn’t, he’s another one on my list. And so is Kevin, to be honest with you, we’ve talked to Kevin Smith through his management in the blinders to do it. Like he was interested. So again, we’re fans. So to me, Kevin Smith is my, we’ve made it. Yeah. If I get Kevin Smith and Mike convention with us, me, Dustin, George, Jamie, Paul. That’s it. I never have to do another one. Windsor Comicon. I think like five years ago. Was it five years ago you had to do at night with Kevin? He was a panel, I think you have know, but it was like thousands of people in the crowd. We all, you know, they filled the Coliseum. They filled the Dallas. Yeah. So I know going into this, I’m like, all right, baby stops, right. I met Megan 15 and I’m like, when we started talking this, I’m like, we have to bring him. He is the, not the key. He’s the glue, the do’s, the glue from Michigan. He’s amazing to his fans. He is like, I beat, felt like we were friends after that. He’s the center of the Venn diagram. Why we turned him into mr astronomic then in the same room with them three times. He tells me he loves me every time he sees [inaudible] I cast it with Jamie and Paul and as soon as I got back from what I was doing, he’s like, you’re Mike. I’m like, yeah. He gave me a big hug. He’s like, thank you. I’m like, no, fake. Thank you. Like I was so excited. He has a picture of me and you, Bob and Dave and lucky that we all signed. He put it up on the wall at his podcast. It’s shared universe, the podcast, the podcast. That was like the first time we all kind of connected cause we were talking about whiskey. Right. Didn’t really know you well other than through the box pretty well, but well better. Yeah. And then you walk in just basically a bottle, a Jase and a bottle of peppermint snobs. We’re like, let’s go to town. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good night. That was still the best expression I’ve ever seen in your face was the shot of dr McGillicuddy. Never, never again. You were the angriest man. I finally watched the Jane silent Bob reboot. I saw that. So just watch that. Just saw it, man gets the line, he gets the line poetry. Um, no. So, so between meaning and, and the management company that handles all of Kevin Smith people, um, you know, twist its connection to J muse. He helped save our bots. Year one. Brian O’Halloran not only came and did our show, loved it. We kept in touch. Um, he was like, I want to come back. I want to come back. He’s probably why we got, and, and I think that a combination of timing, because we’re February and there’s nothing else going on and really is, and they want to get Jeff Anderson’s feet wet in the convention world. They know we’re a good placement to be like, not too big, not too little. They take care of their guests very well. And um, let’s roll the dice and lots of do this. And Brian obviously helped Ming help. They’re both coming. They’re both with Jeff’s people. And so it’s like, if you guys really want to try this, here you go. Yeah. So we coined it the first year, uh, of in, at least towards Michigan people like, what else are you doing in February? Right. You know? Well, and it’s not like February in Jersey is any better. [inaudible] they moved out last, all that’s ready to add. He’s like, tech company doesn’t need to do any of this. Doesn’t care. Right? So he’s like, no, I want to say North, Northeast, Northwest. So he’s like Portland. I won’t say he’s like Portland, Oregon, whatever. And so he’s like, yeah, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll try it. Then he did one private signing with Kevin Smith and now it’s, I’m going to dip my toes in the con world and there’s like four conventions after us that have announced you’re getting the clerk’s reunion and with it being 25 years. First one. Yeah, we’re the first to have the panel. Jeff Anderson’s appearance them together and it’s 25 years of clerk. So it’s insane. Yeah. Well you look at, it’s funny like you know if you need help recording panels guy yes podcast Detroit we love you. But if you look at like whatever you’re into, like the whole, the horror scene, you know granted there was, I think you guys are doing just as good of a job if not better than like the stuff that’s been going on here. Like that’s the thing. And I think that’s one of the things that makes you guys so different. Like so. I mean there are plenty of, we, we’ve talked about it like there, there are comic book shows, there are pop culture shows, there are. But like you guys really picked a niche and ran with it. Good gumbo. You know you got all your, yeah, like horror. There are horror shows in the Tristate area, Michigan horror shows and we’ve got a little bit and so last year, sarcasm. I hate horror movies either way. That’s fine. Ron was the LABA limb fosus he did not say horror. Not bad. So we do things differently than you did. Typical horror convention that’s around here cause we do the costume photo ops. What else are you going to get? Sid Haig. May he rest in peace dressed up as captain Spaulding from a Rob zombie movie. Again, it’s not very horror. You could probably watch it. No, I get it. I get it. I just, I get all the pop culture references. I, I’m familiar with all that. I just don’t like to sit down and watch a horror movie. That’s all. You guys are crushing it. Keep crushing. Go. I’m looking at this right now at me. You know how Mark all that cool stuff and it’ll get like this smoking, abandoned car signed by like you know, a Burt Reynolds. I think I’m going to get the most obscure, ridiculous autograph in the history of the planet. I want to have it framed. Uh, Thomas, Ian Nicholas, who’s from American pie, who’s also in little big league. Now I’m going to get a Chicago Cubs Jersey. He sells them. [inaudible] be told I wanted to get Daniel stern before I wanted him, cause c’mon dude, between that and home alone. So when we got a Thomas Ian and I was like, all right, we really gotta try this and he just doesn’t want to do all he was on somebody’s roster as a client. Right? He just never did a convention. But yes, he does sell almost as original as your conversation with Lacey under Alshabaab. Ah, see, this is still one of my, one of my worst moments as a human being at Lacy under all this, right. Uh, Cindy, uh, what the hell is her name? Morris city. Morgan was in Tron and caddy shack. Uh, basically I used the caddy shack a lion on her and I thought it was original. So I said, uh, you know, Novi must be a nice switch from Drury old Manhattan and she, she don’t face him like, I’ve never heard that one before. Hell, are you talking about Madonna with meatballs? That would no work either. She’s like, no, keep going. Like, don’t you got her talking to him, got Kristy Swanson to do a dude, where’s my car line? But couldn’t, she didn’t like the Caddyshack line. She was like, no one has ever, they always asked her for Buffy shit. So when we asked her to say that we touched her. Who? Who’s, yeah. She’s like, no one’s ever asked me for that before we had her sign the autograph. Perfect. My who, who’s Sidney Morgan was like offended that the one thing she did, it was worth, right. The one notable section of your career, it was trying nerds all day. So here, right. You know what I mean? Like I’m like caddy, Cher. I got the, I thought I would think that would work. Right. I was going to be there. Depends on who you are. So bring all your leprechaun gear. Right, right, right. For the obscure. I guess at this point, like we have to understand they’d be, there was one of our best moments ever was, you know, we have a, Oh my God, I’m blanking on her name. Uh, from back to the future, Leah Thompson, Thompson and Bob brings her on Coke, introduces her and he was like, Oh yeah, you know, so Hey, you know, from uh, Howard the duck fame and like, you can hear her break out laughing. And she was like, Oh my God, watch. We are so lucky to be introduced with the star of Howard the duck. She’s like, what I’m talking about guys are clowns like, yes, we are one episode of something I did before I was anybody. That’s what you’re going to put me. Oh, of course. So I mean, I’m going through this list and I mean, I’m looking at like myself. Like Lloyd Kaufman to me is a God, and he signed like for free. He does. I met the paver that, uh, what was the place in pick Clawson Brown bag it. I got a sign, I got a signing from him, like in 94 book came out. And, uh, that was like one of the first times I ever went and got a sign. You know what I mean? The guy’s a absolute stinking legend. He created the toxic Avenger, which I know as a child in the 90s, he’s the co owner of a powerhouse in the underground. Uh, the B movie world is the movie horror world Sergeant Kabuki man, NYP class. Newcomb. I the guys that I’m looking at like, dude, I gotta talk to Charles Fleischer. Like that’s, you know, he’s a real life cartoon character. Honestly, talk to him on the phone, real life, do that. Whatever his flight was like, he’s like, Oh, do you know you travel this? You got your, you’re a frequent flyer number. Maybe like, Oh my God, I don’t know what his real voice is. He’s anything like Rob Paulson. That would be amazing. Yeah. His real voice would be the one that he used during welcome back Kotter. I was going to say nightmare on Elm street. That would have been the one ad and then you’ve got Skolnick man. You’re like, we’ve got the, Oh, we got the ogre drop. Yes. And on with the laugh. Huh? Oh, you did it better. Mike was blown out when we got Betty’s. Yeah. But I cleaned that up. I just need to throw it back in. Yeah. Like, Oh, I’m in love with a nerd. We got Betty to say that Titan signed by her. She was selling that. I go, Oh my God, I can’t believe she’s selling it. Hygiene. Right. So like, we’ve got Skolnick like, you know, come on man. They’re like, to me like that was like the Porky’s revenge of the nerds. Like those were my legs, my age. And I’m sorry. Isn’t Mickey Avalon the guy that sings my Dick? Yeah. Nasty. You have Mickey Avalon. He’s performing on Saturday night. That’s what I heard. Sonny. He’s, he’s performance. I asked her, do the Jane Fonda whiskey every Friday for the last couple of months. [inaudible] asked her that much. Everybody is Mickey Avalon alive or dead? And everyone’s like, I don’t know. He’s very much, Frankie Avalon is very much alive and Augie just got angrier that he’s [inaudible]. I ain’t gonna be able to do the Jane Fonda. What? Mickey Avalon. There’s a guy, uh, I don’t, I don’t know the horror movie, but I, Nathan Bazell, he played a massive levered Vernon, it’s like a mockumentary horror movie where he wants to become a serial killer and uh, Robert England’s in it cane hotters in it. He looks like sniffer in this press photo. He looks like Stiffler. I really bad. I would like to get Stiffler. Oh, that’d be awesome. What’s he doing? Not doing conventions. Tried. He can’t be doing anything. He goes underrated. I’ll tell you didn’t do it. Was he in SQL or did it house just in a TV commercial. Aton right now he’s a, he’s a, he gets all angry in the back of a car or something. I just saw him. Hey man. Martin Cove is doing commercials as, as I saw that koala Chi. That’s actually pretty good commercial. He did a good job with it. Yeah. So go into Le Dan, if you’ve never been astronomic on before. What’s a, I guess paint a picture, right? It’s our town. So the beautiful thing is, is if you’ve never been to astronomic con, we could explain it to you till we’re blue in the face, but you can currently go right now to Amazon and watch our 31 minute documentary. We filmed it last year. You in it Bob, and uh, you’ve got a nice yard called astronomical [inaudible] great Cod. I love this gun and you get to meet everybody and is great. I love it. And these guys do a great job, but I was like, all right, we’re using that. So yes, I gotta look it up now making of a pop culture convention. Astronomical. It’s free. So if you’re an Amazon prime member, you can just watch it for free. And if you’re not, you can rent to box. It’s very affordable. We do have like one minute clips of it on our YouTube channel, which has a bunch of content, but the short version is astronomic con is a pop culture convention. That’s also a party. Like the minute you get there until the minute you leave, there’s always something going on. Well, from the minute you get, last year wasn’t as bad. I’ll give them that much. We’ve cleaned it up because while Michigan is a friendly state to that, I want a family friendly event. So I want to be able to bring my three year old and my wife and not shabby at all. You replace the metal detectors with the alien D containment chambers, right? Sponsored by acts very heavy at the podcast Detroit table. Honestly last year you cleaned it up. I wish that we were never more popular in our lives than we were when the ladies were doing the body painting at the booth. The rocks or mud, I got in trouble for that. Everybody go for that. That so suddenly everybody wanted to talk to us about podcast, technically met Michigan laws that she was not nude. There was no technical, it meant Michigan law. But there was a, we got some complaints, families who complained that she was quote. And so instead of the approvers saying, Hey, I’m like, Hey Dustin, it’s me. Hey, you gotta go tell her to cover up a bit. And I’m like, Oh we never do video because let me look at me and Dave, we never do video podcasts. Oh you’re the guy that made me cover up. And I’m like, ah no, I don’t want to be that title. I’m the guy that told you two very beautiful [inaudible] stallion. He goes, let’s turn on the video. Let’s turn on a little video, see what happens. But no, again, when I say a party, like our stuff starts at this year, we’re starting early cause we’re doing a pool party cause there’s water park connected to our home. We have a pre, it’s on Thursday. That starts at seven o’clock. No pool parties. Good cause first cause you get to chlorine, you get to bleach. Well you get the actual astronomic on drinks so you can be [inaudible] and buzz. But you get into the three 30 on Thursday. Damn man. Gonna mess it off. But yeah, no. So it’s a party that starts Thursday night. There’s a concert Friday pool party into the convention, into a back to the 80s theme party with Mickey Avalon. Dirt. Nasty twisted. They’re doing an eighties party. Bob, I’ve heard eighties garb is a preferred, preferred [inaudible] I heard you do eighties well [inaudible] yeah, that’s what I, that’s my thing too. Yeah. Right. And then Saturdays I make you cover up. Well only if your paced, these are painted. Uh, no but realistically and it goes through till till Sunday at like five o’clock and it really doesn’t stop because people party in the lobby and hang out and it’s a real uh, all-inclusive feelings and, and it’s good vibes and it’s just fun. Lots of, lots of alcohol do. I bust that hotel for putting up with everything, dude. It’s more of a wall of us and we love them. It’s the NC 17 more hardcore version of it. Penguin, cotton and I don’t know that one penguin, I hear things but I’ve never been like, it’s, you know, there’s parties and chaos and mayhem and drinking in the lobby and all that stuff. But like this is, this is more the NC like that’s the geek version of what you guys do. Like during the day, it’s all family friendly and when the, you know, when it gets dark, when the party comes out, right? Yeah. Don’t cross the line. There’s always a line. But yeah, we’re having our fun there. I mean are there [inaudible] you get the more blurry those lines. Right. But by the time it gets blurry, I’m in my broom anyways by three 34 in the morning I passed out. You’re at four, I have to get up at eight. You get up a little later, an hour later versus three hours before I said don’t Wyndham Wyndham garden, Sterling available online. What’s the scoop? astronomical.com/tickets is everything you need to get yourself some tickets. You can get daily passes, you can get weekend passes, you can preorder your fee, all of it. So astronomic con.com or you can get you on Facebook. You guys have been uh, you know, following actually the, the page. You guys are pretty attentive cause you get a million questions. It’s like a job in itself just to like pre answer those answering questions before we started the, yeah, it’s, it’s amazing. You can follow us on Instagram, Twitter, um, Facebook. Obviously we have our own YouTube. We’re on Spotify cause everything we, all the content that we create, we put everywhere for people who art hip to social media so you can find us anywhere. Awesome. We look forward to us spending the weekend with you guys. Thanks criminals studio. I look forward to hanging out and uh, having a good time as we usually have as we have the last couple of years. Like literally this is my old, my favorite kind of the year. As much as I like more city, it’s outgrown itself. No offense. Yeah, it’s a, it’s like a big time convention. I’ve never heard of her. Yes. Astronomic on February seven, eight, nine 15 in van Dyke Sterling Heights. I look forward to seeing podcast to try it there. You guys are awesome and thank you for having us. Yeah, thanks for the time. Hey, we’re going to take a quick break. We’re going to be back. August gets like talking about a charity event that’s coming up for all the Mickey Avalon. At our event though, it’s not super cool people. You have it in a jukebox, so that’s good enough. But we have a TJ, right? Right, right. So this is a TV show. Hey, I’ll be back in just a sec, but here’s the deal. Wave helps freelancers, consultants, and small business owners make move and manage your money, bringing you closer to financial success with accounting, invoicing, payments, and payroll services that are easy to use, secure and free. 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Welcome back segment three episode 332 this is the one and only it and the DCL broadcast in live here. Studio one podcast, Detroit, beautiful. Royal Oak, Michigan. Bob, the sales guy, Dave the geek. Randy. I do the Twitters. I don’t know what the hell. What are you doing Randy? I’m find a son. Limes maybe in the d.com where you will find all the things. Hey, bank United wants you to go from warm, so enter for a chance to win $54,000 if a team goes for and completes a two point conversion during the big game on Sunday for resection. Has that ever happened? Sure. Has there been like a two point dirty super? Absolutely. All right. Just curious. Um, all you have to do is follow at bank United on Twitter and tweet at bank United. Your answer to. What would you do with $54,000 using the hashtag go for more 54 everybody has a chance to win. The more tweets you send, the more chances you have of winning. And have a team completes a two point conversion. You’re going to win again. 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The second one was not the worst episode they ever heard. That was the day that I was a more than a guest, but less than a host. Yes, you are a ghost. Yes. Guest. So I heard it was the worst. Well, I’m sure you heard it was the worst from your hospital, but I do appreciate the, uh, the chance to come and sit in with you guys for no, for no other reason. Not that plug in anything. Just to be here and a and talking. I’m sorry I had to do it. Bob, I’m glad to see your badge better with you here and like being here and I’m glad you’re doing well. Seriously. Yeah. I hope you’re feeling better. So yeah, we’re doing a, my girlfriend is Outback, give back. She wanted to do an event, and I’m not a big fan of the name, but it’s a great, amazing thing. So my girlfriend and four of her friends went to Australia back in August and they did like two weeks in Australia and I didn’t go because I do the Hamtramck labor day festival and that’s right. The canoe races and all that kind of stuff. So I’m like, you know, I also didn’t want to spend $1 trillion dude, I’ll show you for two weeks. Yeah. So she did that and then all this stuff has hit the fan and she did all the wildlife tours, all the koala, huggy. Although if you haven’t, if you haven’t been keeping up at home, like literally, it’s like the size of the United States. It’s pretty much been blanket. There’s one point a couple of weeks ago when every road in and out of Sydney was closed. Yeah. Cause you couldn’t, you couldn’t get in or out of the city because of the fires and the, and the smoke. So, and it’s, it’s displaced and killed just thousands and thousands of animals. Like 1.5 L, you know, Australia has such a unique animal population that those animals aren’t anywhere else. Right. So, uh, she’s had said, look, you do all these great crazy fundraisers that whiskey, we do the tracksuit party in a on a good Friday every year that benefits the friendship house, which is the food pantry. We do the Magnum PI party, which is in the summertime where we, everyone wears, you know, mustaches and Hawaiian shirts and raise money for the hero foundation. So can we do a fundraiser for the animals that we were playing with like casually in Australia just a few months ago. I’m like, you find the, the right legitimate charity that we know we’re given the right money to. And she did. She found the Steve Irwin foundation, which runs the Australian animal hospital that has always been there and is now just overloaded with just everything. Yeah. Obviously. I mean, they used to do like, you know, stop harvesting crocodile eggs now they’re like basically just trying to triage, filling up and unloading koalas out of the back of their cars and stuff. So, um, we’re very fortunate to have our good friend Greg [inaudible]. Yup. And if you’re not in the river or people know him from eight at nine next back in the day. Uh, so he is the cohost with Michelle. So, and Jerry, my lovely, beautiful girlfriend and a good cover. Good one. [inaudible] she’s beautiful. So yeah. So, uh, so Conip and Michelle are, are hosting this fundraiser we’re going to and it’s gonna be deejayed by our good friends who are good friends of yours as well. Matt Fox and Jamie Flanagan, who just opened up a new at Northville. That’s dumb. So, and they’re, they’re just wonderful. Jamie comes down to visit us every once in a while. Now he’s on 96, three on the weekends. I don’t know if you know you guys and all of that, but uh, yeah. So he’s, they’re going to DJ and get hip. It’s like I just get the host DJ smalls during Thursday wave. He did. He didn’t does sometimes, like two weeks ago he was doing thirst wave and to bring over to thirst wave. Um, yeah. It’s a fun party too. It’s a fun party, but it doesn’t go to charity like this one does. So, um, but that’s, and, and for the first time, actually it’s only the second time we’ve ever done this, the owner of whiskey in the jar who is not me, I’m just people that think everyone thinks so, um, is giving a percentage of the sale. He gets 15% of all the booze sales goes to the charity as well. So besides just raffling off a doing, it’s not going to be as big as like the tracksuit party where we have like 25 baskets. Anybody can win something. We’re going to do like six baskets of 50, 50, and then a percentage of the liquor sales. So, and then of course Conrad and Mikey, my partners and all this stuff, we’ll give back a big chunk of the money that we make, uh, as well to, we always try to get a nice even number when we’re, when we’re done. So, um, but uh, there’s going to be a, a cash kissing booth to kiss butters. Who is my girlfriend’s toy poodle wearing a koala outfit. And it is so damn cute. I mean, honestly better. Better than a real koala cause it’s one of those things that like, I, I love that. Like chlamydia. Well, no, well there’s that number one dad. But number two, like it was like, Oh my God, it’s so cute. It’s eating like the little eucalyptus leaves. Like that’s their like morphine, if they weren’t eating that they’d be biting your face when they go to sleep. Right. But like we realized that the tracksuit party at the Magnum PII party, which butters also comes to dressed up, uh, everyone just clamors to carry butters around the whole time cause she’s a tiny little toy poodle who’s just as adorable as anything. Attention whore. Yeah. And so we’re like, well, we’re going to charge people to carry butters around at the party. So that’s the butter’s kissing. But did you get the carry around butters for 10, 15 minutes for however many minutes? How many, many dollars you want to donate, something like that. And that’s going to be like the butter’s kissing booth. Okay. Um, and then it’s just, I think it’s a great cause. It’s, uh, we don’t do these pop up fundraisers at whisky. We’ve never done usually like usually your regularly scheduled, we’re coming up on our eighth tracksuit party, which I’ve already ordered my check so I’ve got a fresh Reebok off. You know how the Poshmark, there’s a Valore like a maroon Valora one for sale on my whatever. On Facebook. I scroll by like from Macy’s. I was going to text it to you today. You got, you got to get those, those it’s, we’re coming into, everyone starts rating all the resale shops in Metro Detroit because they know tracksuit party’s coming up. Somebody wants to have the coolest amount to find a troop one or of a lower Phila. And so that’s always a, I told you when I went, I didn’t even need to dress up. I just, here’s where your closet. Yeah, I just want your closet. I have so many now because we have eight of them that I will start like putting him up in the auction. Like, I got this old Reebok, it’s looks, looks like an astronaut outfit, but that one up there and you know, Mike, he’s got a fresh one. He just, he was bragging about it the freshman, he got an old Adidas one that came from Germany. Uh, one of my, uh, I, it doesn’t fit me. I’ll text to text you a picture of it, see if you want it. Yeah, I mean it at the worst. We put it up in the raffle. All right. You people to pay some money for it. So, uh, but that’s, that’s tracksuit party. That’s the next time I’m going to be here. That’s going to be I for good Friday. But right now we’re just, we’re hoping some folks come out, some animal lovers and people come out and support the Outback, give back. So, and it’s free. It’s this Friday night. It’s this coming Friday night and starts when, uh, at eight o’clock. Technically we always, we got to put a start time on it, right? I mean Mikey, Mikey, the Mikey is there doing happy hour at four o’clock, right in the bar opens, we’ll start selling tickets then. Um, and we’re really, really good about people that don’t want to stick around. We, we call you, we text you the basket you want and people come back the next day and the next day. His bartenders love that cause he got to come back to the bar and get your basket. You might as well have a drink while I’m here. You’re honest about it. We’re extremely honest about it. Like, Oh, you won. You didn’t, you weren’t here. That’s fine. Your phone numbers in the back. I sent you a picture of it. If you say give it to someone else, fine. If not, I go raffle. Yeah, we do raffles. We do. We do a raffle. You do always do baskets. Yeah. We’ll give you some tickets and tickets. That would be amazing. That’d be amazing. I know falling warehouse last night. Agree to give us a, a lane and all in a basket. We have a big Takata cooler full of booze. It’s all fifths of liquor. That works perfectly. That’s a, that’s gonna be a big draw a little bit. I like booze. Yeah. Do you like loose? Everyone met about you. So yeah, if a couple of tickets, gentlemen, weekend passes, you can do what you want with them. Oh, you guys are wonderful. Thank you. No worries man. So, and I’ll come back to you guys for the next fundraise. But anyway. [inaudible] so yeah, you’re, you’re now in rotation yet gentlemen. But uh, yeah, our other charities are the, the friendship house we always do, which is a food pantry that only serves for two and two. And that’s the, when we do the, um, tracksuit party for, and the hero foundation is a families where the breadwinner gets cancer and we take care of their holidays. And they’ve been doing that for years and years. A friend of ours father survived pancreatic cancer, which that’s the, you don’t normally hear it. Yeah, nobody does. It’s the 1.7 million. So I’ll break a glass to that muscle. It is, but it’s wonderful. And so that’s why, and that’s Mike, he’s on the board of directors of that charity. I’m on the board of directors of the friendship house and my girlfriend loves the Australia animals. So that’s why we’re doing a Outback. You back this Friday at whiskey, the John Hamtramck. All right, so easiest way to find it. Hit the whiskey in the jar Facebook page. It’s one of the events or there’s an event going, it’s a, and you know Mikey did the graphics for it. It’s [inaudible] whiskey is just like the nicest, friendliest, most fun place. Absolutely. You walk into that bar and you don’t know anybody and suddenly your best friend, you know everybody and it’

Well, it's almost time for our first con of the year, so let's dive in with the Astronomicon crew to talk about their third annual event, and then there's a fundraiser for Australian wildlife threatened by the fires Friday night over at Whiskey in the Jar... Astronomicon is at https://www.astronomicon.com/ The Outback Give Back is at https://www.facebook.com/events/2495538064053334/ Wave's invoicing solution is at http://www.waveapps.com/ITintheD The BankUnited $54,000 giveaway can be entered by following  @BankUnited on Twitter and tweet @BankUnited your answer to "what would you do with 54 thousand dollars?", using the hashtag #GoForMore54 CapitalOne is at http://www.capitalone.com Hey, welcome to episode 332 of the it and the D show a strap on your seatbelts. This one's going to be a fun one. We got Mike and Dustin in the house talking astronomic on coming up. February 7th and eighth at the Wyndham garden in Sterling Heights. The all star lineup of guests that's coming to this thing is sick and this is one of the, literally my favorite comic con of the year. We're going to talk a lot more about it and we've got August gets like in the house. Uh, he's got a cool a benefit they're doing called Outback. Give back, uh, helping out, uh, people affected in Australia. We were going to a steakhouse. Yes. Cool. Bio bloomin' on you get 15, 15% get dedicated, uh, donated to Australia. Um, you know what on that? No. You may fire when ready? Welcome back. Thanks for hanging out with us. This is episode 332 of the one and only IT in the D show. Broadcasting live here. Studio one in podcast. He tried and beautiful Royal Oak, Michigan. This is Bob the sales guy. Hey, always hanging out with Dave, the geek Ranee I do the Twitters is doing the Twitter's finding us online it in the d.com and do us a favor. Give us a like on the socials and subscribe to us everywhere. Fine podcasts are sold, right. So what do we got? We got a, we got the Ann Arbor event coming up on the fourth. Well first off I went, I want to thank Detroit Detroit city distillery. That was our first time going there. Yeah, last week. Last Thursday. Um, and it's the perfect bed. We've packed the place. Holy crap. Well it's the perfect venue for what we do. Uh, I think we, we brought in about 50 ish people. Uh, not that person all there at five o'clock. Holy crap. It was weird. They were all there at five o'clock. It's in right in Eastern market. Uh, it's the perfect venue. I've do, I've gone ahead and booked once a quarter for the rest of the year for that place. I've, I look forward to going back there and I thank you to the staff or the parking lot. No. Great. Everybody loved it. And again, it was one of those things where people were like, Oh my God, I've never been here before. Keep hearing about it. Keep meaning to go here. Yeah. I love it. I think the only, cause that's kind of the, one of the sidewalls of our meetings and I think the only complaint I heard was that some people's nav took them the wrong direction on Rio poll. Oh, that's fine. Yeah, fine. Whatever. Uh, but no, so, uh, the fourth, uh, is the Anarbor event. Uh, principal probably pretzel, but I was gay. Uh, so, yep. And uh, and then, Oh geez. And after that we will be at go figure astronomic con, uh, the following weekend, uh, or actually that weekend. Uh, and then our next event, uh, in Metro Detroit is going to be at the Woodward troub on the 20th. And yeah, that's the scoop. That's my story. I'm sticking to it cause I remember to set it up for the third Thursday. Not the fourth Thursday. That's fine. It's fine. It's like saying I put him on the pepperoni pizza. I'm so stupid. Or put him on it to meet on the pizza. Just deal with it. Still felt dumped. My um, one of it is my favorite article of the week and this one hit home didn't hit home, but you read it and you're like, and it's basically called the day Microsoft office turned into malware and Microsoft,

MEDC (the Michigan Economic Development Corporation) returns to our show to chat about entrepreneurship opportunities, grants, smart zones where you can get additional incentives and benefits to get businesses off the ground, and a whole host of other topics that are vital to the changing Michigan economy and they’re doing to keep our economic engines moving as times change… Find their programs at: https://www.michiganbusiness.org/ Wave’s invoicing solution is at http://www.waveapps.com/ITintheD The BankUnited $54,000 giveaway can be entered by following  @BankUnited on Twitter and tweet @BankUnited your answer to “what would you do with 54 thousand dollars?”, using the hashtag #GoForMore54 CapitalOne is at http://www.capitalone.com Hey, what’s going on? This is episode 331 of the it in the D show. We got a great guest lined up. He’s the MEDC, that’s the Michigan economic development Corp for those keeping score at home. He’s the entrepreneurship and innovation vice president Fred Molnar. He’s talking about, I guess there’s thousands of high tech startups across the state, satellite companies. We always thought it was just like batteries and software, but no, there’s a ton of stuff going on. Stuff I never even heard of, so I’m going to have a really, really fun time talking to Fred and should be a great show. Cool, and Hey, this show is brought to you by our friends at wave. Are you tired of chasing down payments for your small business waves? Easy. I am invoicing software. Hint, hint, wink, wink. You can customize your invoices, look professional and get paid faster for your work. Use waves, recurring invoicing feature. Hint, hint, wink, wink, so that you can sit back and relax and get back to doing what you love. Create your account at wave apps. It’s WAV apps, aps.com/it and the D to get started with 100% free and unlimited invoicing. That’s wave apps.com/it in the D. I’m so checking it out. 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Yeah, so we’ve got our event Thursday night, uh, which is this Thursday night, not last Thursday night because I’m a moron and scheduled it wrong. I feel like I owned that appropriately. Uh, we will be at Detroit city distillery, uh, and then next month, uh, in which will be the third Thursday, uh, we’re going to try a new venue, a funnel hangout called Woodbridge pub. A great little spot. Loves great. Dave’s is are going to go to Woodbridge. They go, where’d you get drugged in the last night? He goes, I’m not that shallow. First Facebook post is were wasted and it’s at Woodbridge puppy with REM. And who posted that? Ran me. Oh, well yeah, I was there. Well, I told you what happened. It’s like, cause last week’s episode we were bitching about trying to find venues. And so I walked up to the bar and I’m ordering a drink and the bartender goes, Hey man. And he’s like, you know, I listened to your show. And I’m like, and that’s always a okay, why conversation? Uh, and he said, no, I just kinda cool by the way. He was like, you know, you guys were just bitching about, you know, needing, you know, venues to do stuff. Why don’t you do one of your events here and say you can’t say no. And then two seats was the owner of the bar who went, I’m sorry, what, what event would you like to do here? And I was like, Oh, it’s this networking group thing. I’m like, it’s basically we’re going to bring some nerds in who liked to drink and hang out and talk. And he was like, yeah, you should do that here. What’s the date? And he like, went in the back, grabbed his book. So perfect. I’ve been there in awhile. No, it’s, it’s good color. Seriously. There’s a bartender, listen to this. Yeah, we’re doing it. And they’re not charging us 200 bucks an hour just to be in their lobby. I’m good. Nah, screw everything about you Bulla Rama or whatever the hell you are. Uh, so dude, I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m ripping the bandaid off this first topic. Dude. You want terminators? This is how you get terminators. No, no, it’s not even, it’s worse. It’s, so Dave’s talking about, um, it’s from the independent and scientists create first living robots in major breakthrough made out of animal cells. Hold on. They’re neither a traditional robot nor and known species of animal. It’s a new class of artifact, a living programmable organisms. Would they call it a Xeno bot if I recall correctly, cause you know, meaning alien but meaning Terminator and they’ve already, so they’ve already like, and here’s the like, I dunno how far down in the article you read. Like yeah, they followed a little program task. Oh they pushed this little pebble around and you push this little thing around and then they started to learn and they started to coordinate and cooperate. You aren’t terminators. This is how you get terminated, the three of them. And they created the new language and knock you up in one way. I see. Um, I guess the only good news is, is that they’ve taken cells from frog embryos and turned them into a machine that can be programmed as they wish that that worked out great in Jurassic park. It was, you know, it was the frog, the frog DNA that no, wait. Yeah, there’s no, there’s not a tried and true history of why not to do this. Cool. It wasn’t that a Roddy Piper film a hell comes to Frogtown one of the trauma movies, like from there might’ve been, yeah. Um, I don’t understand what they would do other than military or sex. That’s about the only things that I could think, talking about putting little pockets on them so they can carry you like medicine directly to where they need to go. If you want these frog bots people Oh, inside your body. The small, initially, initially they’re very, very small. They’re like nanobots carry medicine directly to the sales effected. I don’t know that it worked in a, with Martin short movie. Um, wait a minute. They’re nanobots, they’re from frog. So you gotta you’re gonna have a frog growing inside. You know, it’s not going to grow. It’s just going to be like a couple of cells. No, it won’t grow. It won’t, it won’t. It won’t act like life and multiply or mutate at all. It won’t. No trust us. And it won’t be like ant man where they all like just like get into like the nooks, there’ll be like little gremlins. Get into the nooks and crannies of like, uh, yeah, military planes and you know, more magic school bus. Oh. Which I’m not even going to start out how creepy that was. That was horrible. And Hey, if you’re an OTA, a antenna user, which I am, I have several in the house. We’ve got a couple here in the studios, a rescan your rescan, your channels if you haven’t already. Uh, we talked about this when it hit, I believe a year ago, uh, when the FCC sold off a whole bunch of frequencies, uh, to make room for some other stuff. Uh, so what channels can you get? Dude? I’m at like 150. Like, no, from your antenna. Yeah. So, and don’t get me wrong, like it’s not like, so what it is, it’s about maybe the size of the, like half of this. The, the headphone amp. Yeah. And it does have a sheet of paper and it says, okay, well no. So the ones that you put up in the window are that size, does it use your house wiring as conduit? And this sits on, um, it sits on the, on the tabletop right next to the, uh, the TV that I’ve got hooked into. Like I don’t, you don’t have to have like this particular one, you don’t have to have near a window or anything like that. Um, you know, is the, basically it was a, I think this one was like 90 bucks as opposed to like the 40, $50 ones, which are the floppy ones you’ve got to put up on a window. And so what other channels, cause you’ve got, you know, uh, there are networks, there are four different state Fox stations. Uh, there’s like, you know, the normal Fox two, then you’ve got like a Fox movie channel. There’s a Fox retro channel, which is like, and there’s a game show network, uh, all the channel four channels, all the channels, seven channels, all that. I mean it’s all the local channels, three plus channels. I mean there’s a whole bunch of stuff you can pick up. So they said, uh, he said on his article that said, got laughing comment, which is a comedy and scifi content. Yeah, dude, there’s a, there’s a bunch of stuff out there that is still broadcasting OTA that, I mean, if you’re like, and if you’re, if you’ve cut the cord and you’re not using this as one of your options, you’re kind of dumb. Well, so what’s rescan I don’t know what that means. So when you set it up, when you first like plug it into your TV, the first thing you have to do is you tell it, Hey, scan for channels. It’s got to say, okay, what are all the signals when you get a new, when you get a new radio, but they’ve moved frequencies around for cell phones, spectrum and stuff. So you have to rescan because she doesn’t move frequencies and it looks like it’s going to happen again in March against him. Have to do this again. Probably another thousand channels are going to wind up moving. So yeah, I mean, and like I said, I mean I pick up channels, um, in India, Canada, down into Ohio, uh, out into Flint. Um, it’s, I mean, if you get one with a decent range, it’s pretty solid. Very good option. Huh. Um, interesting article came on. Uh, I finally got to do my first, I got to hire a Meyer. My first hire only had about 15 interviews with other people. Um, before I’ve ever, we’re talking about those. Yeah. Yeah. Don’t lie on your resume. Kids. Just, uh, you’re gonna get asked. Now you’re understanding all the pain I was describing. Losers. Wait. So DNS is on your, your, your top skill on your resume says DNS and you don’t know what an, a record or a C name is. Yep. Um, and there’s the door nice down. Yeah. Wall street journal came out with something they’re calling hunger games, hiring. And I’m not gonna lie, I’m not gonna lie. No, no, no. They’re calling it cluster hiring cluster. Yeah. The article made the analogy of hunger games and I’m not gonna lie, if I was ever put in a situation, I, uh, knowingly, I would probably, you know, I don’t know at the time if I would get up and walk out, but basically what they’re doing is like, there was, they’re telling a story right now. Uh, there’s basically, it’s a prestigious independent research outfit in, in New York, um, called the boys Thompson Institute and they, it was high end scientists. This isn’t like, this isn’t like a, a situation where you’re going to work at Amazon as a picker, right. It’s, it’s, you’re going in as a scientist. Um, and basically they brought in 13 of them at the same time and basically it’s almost like a goddamn brothel, um, where like, you know where you’re at, basically sat in front of everybody and they’d said, I like the one in the, in the green jacket. Like I own like to me. And they’re like, don’t. And they basically told them, don’t want up the other one. This isn’t about, they wanted to see how you collaborated with people and how you, how you interacted and where you competitive and, but you don’t know what they want. So you’re going into this thing going, do I need to shine? Do I need to be a team player? Do I, you know, cause they don’t give you the parameters. Are you looking for a support player? Are you looking for a leader? Are you asking for you need a tank or you need a healer or, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Blue warrior needs food DPS. So I mean, I hope this does not catch on because I want no part of it. I’m not a fan. I’m not going to lie. And here’s the thing, like I’ve really made it a point being through that, that hellish. Yeah. Three month interview process that I was with the company that rhymes with Schmoogle. Yeah. Um, I’m, I’m basically, it’s two interviews right now that we’re doing. We have our, we have a recruiter that has to go through their vetting. Then we do, um, we do a, a panel over the phone and if that works, they do an in person and basically all the subject matter experts, um, basically ask three or four questions. We try not to make it weird. Um, you know, most of it’s kinda, it’s kind of fun like the um, and then I S I S culture questions and how they interact with the team, things like that. And then we say yes or no. Like, you know what I mean? It really needs to be, and not saying it’s a perfect process, but you know, I’m not close to what I, yeah, it’s close to what I run with. Yeah. I mean it’s not sitting, you know, in a, in a like, you know, if I brought 13 engineers in and they’re going to look at each other and I’m like, okay, you’re, you know, 10 a death take, take the most socially awkward people you could find on the planet, throw them in a room together, have at it. Right. Well, I mean it goes back to like your thing on team building. Like, there’s a lot of things I’m learning, cause this is the first, this is the first time I’ve ever had to do team building. And you know, when someone talks about like I’m doing this whole big thing about check, don’t shoot free throws, like so-and-so is not good at this. And I’m like, great, so-and-so is let them team up. Yup. I don’t need him to be every, you know, super friends, right. I don’t need Superman to talk to fish. I call mans here, we’ll talk to the fish. So I’m kind of like breaking down. Like when people are like, well, he needs to document more. I’m like, Hey, he’s the admin one. Loves documentation and learning. Let him team up with my engineer three. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like crap like that. I mean, I dunno to me that I’m, I don’t know what I’m even talking about anymore. All I know is I’m not interviewing anyone like hunger games. Like, well then, then, then, then you’re good. Um, I, I but, but speaking of Schmoogle, uh, they are the, I believe third company now to break the $1 trillion valuation market value. You know, why, you know, they own all the data and what’s the next, the fourth Apple, Amazon and Microsoft are first. And what’s the, what’s, what’s going to be the biggest commodity in the next 10, 20 years data, your emails and search history. That’s, that’s what it’s going to be. That was my favorite conversation I had. Well I don’t do those Alexis. They know all too much. Did you ever go to activity.google.com I delete this? No, sure, sure you do. Yeah. And Snapchat deletes all the pictures and yeah, that’s, that’s exactly how that works. What was, uh, the one thing I always like, I wish they had, we always do way back machine for NFL drafts cause we’re nerds and like for like with my football friends, I got Detroit like drafted a Superbowl quarterback. Unfortunately it was the tigers who drafted someone who went on to play football. He was never playing baseball. But like looking up what a stock would be worth. Like, like okay it’s 2002, I had $1,000, I put it on Google. What’s it worth today? Like did it, does that not exist? Cause that would be awesome. Like I can kick myself more than when I go to sleep on any stock chart will show you historical information but it’s not going to show you splits and dividend payouts and what it would look like through the transgression. You know, through the, I’m sure somebody has done it out there. It had to have, I’ve been looking, uh, I’m, I do this, this one and then since Amazon just got mentioned, this one creeps me out. Like I, I don’t, I don’t understand why people are going more and more towards biometric shit cause it just creeps me out. I feel like I’m the only one who ever saw demolition man and I don’t like it. Um, Amazon wants you to pay with your Palm and I don’t mean your Palm pilot. No. And I mean your Palm pro. No, I mean the actual ridges lines and stuff of your hand, you can connect that to a credit card and and and just wave at a camera. I guess it beats the shit out of and putting a little chip in your hand. Like last week we talked about [inaudible]. Yeah, no, not doing that either. But you know I just, I did. Well it is, it is it that complicated to take out a wallet and swipe a credit card or to hold up your phone to use your wallet or like is like, is that where we are as a society right now? Guess what? Guess what business is going to pick up? Cutting off people’s hands again. Like demolition man. How did he get out of the jail? He, there was a retinal scanner and he popped the warden’s eye out and had it on a pen. Right. Mark Cuban’s misses, right. Hit on shark tank. Why? Cause someone just bought a whole shitload of stuff. Someone just bought pants. I was like, is that it though? Is there no two factor? Like it just Palm, it’s your hand unique enough that it, that’s according to that. Well, I mean your fingerprints are, well, you’ve got the uniqueness of your fingerprints combined with the uniqueness of what’s on your fingerprints are one in what? 50,000 faces? One in a million. So apparently your debit card and send me a text or a put MFA notification on my mobile and I hit, yes, I’m buying something at the store. That’s it. Did I just add, I was talking to somebody earlier like I wish everything was as paranoid as Google was about sign ins to my account res. Like I like it’s an and it’s instantaneous and, but, but they’re on it. Like I, you know, if I, if I tried logging it like I was trying to do something here. Emails though. I need a push notification. No, no, no, no. I tried to log into Gmail. Little note pops up right on my phone. Oh, is this you trying to sign into Google? Yup. That’s me or no, that’s not me. Yeah. Why? Why can’t my credit card do that? Why? Right. Or you get the text with the seven digit number. I’m fine with that too. Are you spending $112 at TJ Maxx buying [inaudible] with a little pop up, but I cannot handle, I don’t handle to F ag. Right. I don’t know why they don’t is, here’s the thing, it’s cause there’s money to be made in fraud. Is that, is that what it is? Who’s paying off? Like that’s my business. It’s not like the weed stuff where Hillary Clinton comes on and goes, there’s too much money in legalizing drugs. Like, cause you get to seize everything. Um, who’s, who’s paying who off on this one? I dunno, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll hunt it down. I’ll, I’m sure there’s a vice episode on it somewhere. Um, what’s your, uh, do you remember, do they ever tell you what your fishing rates are? And I’m not talking about like trout Yas. Did they ever tell you what your, do they count your rates? Who clicks what? Shaming Susie for saying something stupid the most it is, these are the departments with the lowest click through rate. We don’t get like, Oh sorry, I, our average you get your management might get different emails broadcast publicly during fishing week that there was fishing, there was coasters handed out and there was gummy Swedish fish it handed out and it was on every TV and there was on every newsletter and we were still at like 11 or 12%. Um, but like somebody came out with, um, I like to see what they’re trying to actually get people with. So I of want to click through to be like, who, what are they trying to get people to fall for? What are people dumb enough that they’re not even doing what I thought they were doing, which was like buying like a URL that kinda mocked or match like you remember, what was it like my visa card, you know what I’m saying, where it looked like your company, but it looked like a vanity URL or something. They’re not even doing that. It’s just, it just, it’s just jibberish like a bullshit URL. But someone came out with a top 10, uh, which was funny, I just got this today and it was a text that came to my phone that said hello Dave, your FedEx package with tracking code, yet idiotic is waiting for you to set delivery preferences. But it’s two D seven CMV. Dot info slash Bitly URL. Yeah. And I’m not clicking no, uh yeah. And if I bought it, I told it where to ship it. Um, but basically the number one was changed the change of password required immediately. It was 26%. Um, basically a, um, Microsoft office three 65 D action of email and process. Yeah, password was heavy cause yeah, password check required. Right. Was the other one drop? This is one where I’m not going to say I fall for it, but it was like Dropbox or like a Google drive document shared. So shit. So that was like both that one and the team’s one where you know, and it was specifically like a name had shared a document with you. If I don’t recognize the name, the skeptical Davis skeptical. No, no, no. But what happens if it’s from work or like me and like, or it’s from Hey, it’s from, you know, like, well then they’re going to get fired for using Dropbox to send company files around. This is what’s going to happen. I have them walk down. The interesting one was like Airbnb, new device login. It was 6% and then a Slack password reset for account. Um, you know, basically there. Yeah, it’s all password. Your cash app, your, your account’s been closed. Coinbase. Oh, I can imagine them trying to hack into Coinbase. Please resolve error. Now could you take a look at this? Oh, then the proof point. The biggest one. Can you, would you mind taking a look at this invoice? Yeah. And then so-and-so has shared a whiteboard with you from Microsoft. Yup. Yeah. Interesting. Um, you know, again, if you’re not a, you’re not savvy, just, you know, hover over the URL. If it looks bad. Yeah. Don’t do not click hover lunch. Good. Yeah. Treat it. Treat it like a, a woman in a ladies’ bathroom. Just hover. Yeah, that’s fine. Uh, so I did, you’re a nest biller. This, this is my favorite story. I love this. And we’ve talked about how stupid some of these accessibility rules are over the years. Um, but yeah, PornHub is getting sued by a deaf man, uh, because they don’t provide subtitles for all of their pornography that they have. Oh, Oh, Oh God. Do me, I just, I’m picturing like, you know, those memes where it’s like, you know, they have the funny thing in the captions. I’m picturing like wild screaming like, or, or like pained expression. Like I, I’m just, I’m just trying to like Mo moaning in Japanese. Like what? Yeah, like what, what, what are you and I, but I do, cause they, uh, they actually replied if they said we actually don’t respond or we don’t comment on pending, uh, lawsuits. Um, but we would like to just point out that we do have a closed caption category that he’s able to use. Plus there’s PornHub user uploaded. Is YouTube responsible for YouTube videos that are in caption? I don’t think so. So why is PornHub different? It’s an option. You can go for it. Like, that’s one of the things they’ve added is the capability to do like an automated transcription thing though. Like I mean sometimes the plot is helpful set up. Randy, is it think of an analogy that would make any sense. And I don’t like my hamburger didn’t have pickles on it. [inaudible] for damages. Like since you didn’t get pickles, it’s not a good hamburger. Somebody you bought me a, the free beer wasn’t cold enough. I [inaudible] you gave me a, uh, an issue of Playboy that was in Russian and, and I don’t read Russian. I, I’m to read the jokes. Dammit. Yeah, I got nothing on this. I, I just, I just thought it was, cause we have, we’ve talked about like, you know, there, there’s a, there actually is a standard out there where your website, technically speaking is supposed to be accessible for blind people. Um, well this would be deaf people, but yeah, no, no, but I mean they know, I’m just saying there, there’s, there’s a standard out there that says [inaudible] you know, the whole ADA thing when it comes to web interfaces, they’re supposed to be accessible for, you know, blind people. You, and that’s one of the reasons why you can’t have voice navigation and you know, because because of deaf people in that kind of stuff and it just, I at the drive through, I’ve always laughed about that and that’s, that’s just actually manufacturing laziness. I lived, I think we’ve talked about that before. We totally have. Why does the dry lot, why does the ATM at the drive through have braille on it? Right. Because they only make one keyboard. It just looks dumb. Um, I always like, I like technology and I like innovation. I’m a huge fan of pushing the envelope until it’s stupid. Um, and then this one, there were, they’re talking about a digital transfer. I should have been turned off when I saw [inaudible]. I skimmed through this. I didn’t even add it to my list. I think myself too. The one thing where I just want to tell him to stop is Toyota. Um, LA is launching an AR program that basically allows users to try out. Um, there are cars without picking up the keys. They basically just put on goggles and they pretend it’s car, but it’s not, but you’re not, that’s not enough. It’s not even see what it looks like inside, but you don’t, that’s the whole point of it. Yeah, that’s that. Yeah. What are the comfort like Kevin noise or an apparently now it’s catching on. Like returns is a big problem. Like Amazon, like that’s the crux of their being of their existence. They would stop carrying everything that’s listed in sizes that are made in China. Oh, I just bought a sport coat that weight and fit you. I’d probably wouldn’t fit Mackey. I bet it was fat guy in a little coat like ah shit. But like target and Lowe’s and Amazon, they’re basically finding out that augmented reality AR, uh, is helpful in decreasing the numbers of returns they see from online shoppers. And then I guess I can see it. Furniture, minor details, 25% of shit is sent back. 25. No, I truly, I believe that. But, and I could see where if they could give you something where you know what, okay, so you hook into like I have goggles, uh, you hook into my goggles and you let me see that couch. I want to buy in my living room where I want to put it and see how it actually spatially feel it. Or here’s things that you need to know. There’s things like, OK, uh, real estate. I think you still need to see it. But like if you put on goggles and got to do a walk through on a house, that’s going to eliminate you needed to needing to go see. Um, yeah. You know, you can also do it for a home inspection too, but you can’t tell how comfortable at couches by looking at it. No, but you could at least see where I’m, where I want to put it. I keep wanting to buy this couch online and my wife keeps screaming at me that it looks uncomfortable and I’m like, I like it. I want to buy it. Um, but I, you know, the, the, I’m trying to think what, like I said, besides real estate and doing like a walkthrough, um, I don’t know what else, like AR like to like, it’s not going to stop returns. Like if there’s a pair of jeans and they’re a size 28 and I want to buy them and then they don’t fit and I send them back. Like, how is augmented reality gonna fix that? No, it won’t. It won’t. Something like that. Like I could see where like, you know, some of the return issues where, you know, it wasn’t, you know, it didn’t look the way I thought it would based on that picture or you know, it didn’t look, or it didn’t fit in with my decor or it didn’t, you know, like step, like I think it would, I can see it helping to eliminate subjective reason returns. Maybe we should support and hope to do augmented reality for that. They have AR, do they? I’m pretty sure. Oh, he backpedals quickly. I don’t know. I heard we talked about that. We did a no, no. So, yeah, no, I can see like, you know, like this objective reason. I just, I just don’t like it as opposed to like legitimate, real concrete reasons where it’s, you know, it doesn’t fit. It doesn’t, you know, it’s not, but you know, the subjective stuff like, you know, I just, I just didn’t like it once it was in the house or something like that. I think I could see it helping limit, helping to eliminate that. Good luck with that. And they’re spinning. Had some money. Right. Yeah. God knows what and something I’m not going to use. Um, I I was tempted to use the, uh, that creeped up quietly if you’re Amazon prime, the whole foods, two hour delivery thing that, that came to my house. I didn’t deliver. I didn’t order anything though. But that’s the thing now someone mentioned it and I’m like, I’m going to see if that’s a thing I’m still good with shipped. Yeah, I am too. I’m perfectly content with you. I don’t need the whole, I don’t need a Nicky batting something admiring. I got a Petco, like I got pet store stuff that I can get delivered now I got a target. Yeah, I’m good. Lamb Shea that you’ve always been eating. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but dude, here’s, you know me and you know how I am when I walk into a store, the reason why I loved ship or I love ship for grocery shopping is it keeps me from overshopping. Like I’m not wandering through the aisles going, Oh, I’ve gotta have five of those and 10 of those. And they did it. Oh, that cake looks good. Ooh, cookies. Woo. Like it cuts out. Keeps me from having to get off my ass on the couch. I mean that too. I mean, everyone’s got their reasons. Yeah. Like now it’s like when it’s time to buy a case of water and a couple of cases of pop shipped, $35 minimum. God bless you. Yeah. Here’s another five. Throw it in the kitchen so I don’t have to move. Right, exactly. Above your, what about your friends at Clearview? At Clearview? Yeah. Oh dude. I didn’t even write it down cause I, that was the last thing I shot across. So there is literally an app, uh, that is, has a database larger than the FBI. Uh, and most police departments, uh, all combined, uh, that is facial recognition based where basically someone, and right now they say it’s not allowed. It’s not accessible to the open public. Sure. It’s not, I’m sure somebody has, it doesn’t make it better either, but so you can just be ensure this is the intro to the article. What if a stranger could snap your picture on the sidewalk and then use an app to quickly discover your name, address, and other details. And this lets them do it. They just made it happen. They scrape public Facebook, Venmo pictures and it’s currently used by hundreds of law enforcement agencies, including the FBI says the New York times in a Saturday report. Yeah. And they said, Oh, it’s not open to the public now, but we expect it will be in the not too distant future. Yeah. That’s funny. The size of the database dwarfs others used by law enforcement because they had the FBI’s, which taps passport and driver’s license photos. It’s got 60 641 million images of us citizens. And this one door. Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. Not, not available to the public. Trust us. They won’t mutate. Oh boy. So Hey, we’re going to take a quick break. Oh, Hey. Uh, so bank United wants you to go for more, uh, enter for a chance to win $54,000. Uh, if a team goes for and completes a two point conversion during the big game on February 2nd, all you have to do is follow at bank United on Twitter and tweet at bank United. Your answer to what you would do with $54,000 using the hashtag go for more 54, that’s G, O, F O R M O R R. E number five, number four. So everybody has a chance to win. The more tweets you send, the more chances you have of winning. And if a team completes a two point conversion, you would win a. So again, follow bank United on Twitter and tweet at bank United. 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We’re going to be back with Fred Molnar from the MADC talking about, uh, uh, tech startups, high tech startups should be a cool conversation. This is the it and that he show. Hey, we’ll be right back. Hey, welcome back. Segment two. This is episode three 31 of the it and that he show broadcasting live here in studio one podcast, Detroit, beautiful, Royal Oak, Michigan. Bob the sales guy, Dave the geek. Randy. I do the Twitters is doing the Twitters. Find us online it in the d.com. You want to know why? Cause we all right. And, and you, you still are. And I actually had somebody call me out on that when we were here Sunday, a recording a bunch of episodes. Somebody said, I just forget what I said. And they were like, wow, you, you really can be petty. And like the whole shot of history crew was here and like all of them dove and they were like, Oh no, no, no, no, no. He’s Tom petty. 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But we’re, uh, we’re very, very lucky, uh, to get a someone here that had the day off today, but decided they were going to come in anyway, so we sincerely appreciate it. He’s with the Michigan economic development Corp as the MADC for, uh, for you at home. He is the, uh, entrepreneurship and innovation vice president Fred Molnar. Thank you for putting up with our own ridiculousness. How you doing sir? Good, thank you. Thank you Dave. Thank you Bob. Appreciate it. So, you know, we’re talking about you got to send an email, I’m talking about things that I didn’t even know existed. Um, I’m really not familiar with, with not only aerospace but things that are going on in the state. Um, we’re talking, you know, and then you’re talking about, you know, there’s thousands of high tech startups across the state and I kind of wanted to start there. I we knew about like batteries and companies that are kind of building here and we’re starting to hear rumblings like auto manufacturers are calling themselves software companies now because there’s more into coding than there is actually building a physical car. So I mean, when you’re, when you’re talking thousands of high tech startups, I guess where do we start and where do we end? Is, is that just a broad spectrum or I guess walk me through that? Sure. Um, well we’re definitely technology agnostic, so we’re not really focusing on any technologies though. There is a new MBDC strategic plan, which I can get into later. But the group that I lead, um, what we’re trying to do is diversify the Michigan economy. People here in Southeastern Michigan know we’ve been very auto centric for little bit years, little bit. And of course, you know, I grew up in Allen park around Detroit and, uh, when I was a young man kid and everything, I, I saw the ups and downs of the auto industry. Uh, like many of us did. Um, I mean, hell, I’ve seen it and I’ve only been here since 96. Yeah, yeah. And it was, it was brutal to watch. I had some good friends who, you know, quite frankly, every single one of my friends are either worked, their dads either worked in the auto industry or a supplier for the auto industry. Well, you’re looking at what it did to just streets like Updike and up in wick some like do you know that was an, it was bigger than an entire city block. It was less stretched for two, three, four city blocks shuts down building his dock down, then everything that kind of was around it is gone. Yeah. Yeah. It was devastating. I remember of course the, you know, the early Japanese invasion of the, you know, the small small cars and everything and we were building the big muscle cars at the time. Um, but, but long story short, what we’re trying to do is diversify the Michigan economy. Um, and that’s through technology. So what we’re trying to do, we don’t have like in a tr like an attraction program for early stage tax. So we’re not trying to attract companies here and we’re trying to do is develop companies here, help companies develop, which is funny because like, you know, there was that article that we just talked about I think either last week or the week before where both Detroit and Ann Arbor, our top 10 locations for new tech startups, like I think top five if I recall correctly, we’ll go cost of living’s low and there’s no poop on the sidewalk. Go figure. Well, I mean depends where you go. Yeah. So, so there are, there are really, um, hot areas in the state. As you mentioned, Detroit right now is very hot for tech. Of course. Anarbor has been the basis of technology for the last 10 years plus. Um, but there’s other areas in the state. Uh, grand Rapids is picking up, uh, Lansing’s really good. And actually up in the upper peninsula, Houghton Hancock, uh, which is way up in a [inaudible] is also doing really well. A technology really like, I just, I wouldn’t be doing up there. I was like, I was thinking, I, you hear DUP, you don’t think tech. That’s interesting. Yeah. Well, you know, you think of new texts up there. Exactly. So you know, you think a beautiful scenery, you think of wood products, you think of beef pasties. There you go. Yeah. Smoked fish, paint painted rocks. Um, but, but built around and what we’re doing from the MADC perspective is we’re working with the universities around the state. So we’ve kind of free focus areas. One of them is a universities and there is a research university, Michigan tech university has mentioned, um, and they of course spend a lot of time and energy, but they are a federally, uh, federally funded research university. In other words, the federal government, um, gives them grants to do basic research. Okay. And through that basic research, what we’re trying to do is pull technology that they work on and commercialize that. Okay. Gotcha. And so that’s why up in Houghton Hancock, they’re doing a really good job with that. Well, so, and I think that’s been one of the, one of the biggest issues this region faces and has faced for quite some time. And we’ve, when we’ve talked about it, I can’t remember how many times, um, I mean the brain drain that hit here, you know, back when the economy tanked in Oh eight, Oh nine, 2010 and then continues to hit here as, you know, kids get out of school and don’t want to stay here. And so they’re heading for the coasts. They’re heading for Chicago, they’re heading for, you know, and I think that’s the Austin huge. Yeah. I mean, I think that’s a, that’s a big thing where in many cases they don’t even know that stuff like this exists. This is true. This is true. And, and we’re, we’re, I mean that, that’s still a real problem. There’s no doubt about it. And when, one of the things that we see is, um, a lack of talent. So we have a lot of great companies starting up, great ideas, technology companies. But what happens is the, the founder may be very smart in whatever physics or biochemistry, whatever, right? But they don’t have the business experience. And so they can only take the company to a certain level and then the company can stall out. Because you know it’s school of hard knocks, a lot of it. Right. And so experience and what I’m seeing, which is very encouraging to me is I’m seeing a lot of people that have left the state. Okay. Cause I think the pastors are greener elsewhere. When they go to D C they go to New York, they go to Austin, they go to Bay area, whatever. But at some point they find their significant other, right. And they have kids and they go, you know what, Michigan was a great place to live. It’s a great place to raise kids. Bob, you mentioned the cost of living at sure thing. And so they can, they can earn a very good living here and they want to move back. And so we’re seeing a lot of people try to come back to the state and that’s what we’re trying to do is find them, you know, companies obviously that at the level they want. I think it was like probably 2013 like late 2013 early 2014 when we started seeing a lot more messages from people about Hey I hear it’s gotten better. Thinking about coming back, how do I make that work? So I mean, I totally wholeheartedly agree. Well that’s the thing. If you look at, if you talk to anybody, if we go to any of our meetups and go, did you realize there was, um, I’m free to one of the companies you guys are working with, uh, you know, space technologies in their name and they’re basically making plasma thrusters to start up satellite companies. And if you would have to ask anyone, did you think that this even existed in the state of Michigan? They were like, no. Are they building Vultron right. That’s the first thing I said to Fred, would I go, what the hell is a plasma thruster? And he’s like, uses plasma gas. I’m like, what? Like this is so far over my head, I guess. How do they end up in Michigan? And I guess, you know, talk to me about them. Yeah, so, so that’s a, it’s a great store. It’s an app. So fantastic story. This again is a technology spun out of a university up at Michigan tech. So up in Holton Hancock as far as you can go in the U P peninsula. And here they are building a rocket engines for, for satellites. And if they’re listening by the way, sorry about your Packers, you traders, they’re all packer fans. DUP. This is true. Are you, are you sorry, Roger sucks. Sorry Frank, go ahead. Yeah, so, so there, there is a gentleman named Brad King, one of one of the founders of the company and he is literally a rocket scientist. I mean he has a business card and it says rocket scientist, but he is actually a rocket science. I mean I can get one of those too. There you go. Yeah, I’m a model rocket scientist. I was really good with those. And um, so there, there’s the things that are called smart zones spread across the state. So there’s 21 of these won’t go into too much detail, but one of them is up in holding Hancock and the idea of a smart zone and the local ones you probably heard of of TechTown, you might’ve heard a tech town, Detroit and R verse bar. Yup. Um, auto automation alley up in Troy, et cetera. So, so these, these are all over the state. And what their objective is is economic development of course, technology, economic development. So they’re allowed their legislatively formed geographic areas like a, a research park, and they’re allowed to collect taxes in that park and those taxes have to be used for tech entrepreneurship. Okay. Awesome idea. It’s working fantastic across the state. So this gentleman, rocket scientists, um, had this idea, you know, can I turn this into a company? So he went to the local smarts zone. And of course he’s rocket scientist, not a business person, but they’re business people. So between the two of them, they put together a plan to create a company called in space technology. I think it’s already in space technologies, um, and helped him get it off the ground. And they were so to speak. Yes. [inaudible] very good. Very good. And, and you know, people, people have asked them, well why are you up in the U P and his, his perfect answer is, well the ups is as close to space as Florida or California. Do you ever remember, do you remember when? Probably when the show first started and I always screamed about outsourcing rural. Yeah. Because there was a, I was in the, the V set, you know, doing satellite parts for, you know, back in like Oh four and we went to a manufacturing plant in the middle of nowhere mid Michigan. But everyone, they were making 10 bucks, 12 bucks an hour and they were ecstatic making that kind of money cause small house, you know, I’m like, Oh my God. Like why are we shipping jobs overseas? Why don’t we outsource rural and make that a thing? So yeah, hearing this, I bet you the, you know, part of it is just, you know, outsourcing world. Yeah. And they’re there. They’re getting high quality people coming in like earlier discussion from outside of the state because they want to live in the UPA. If you ever been to key went up peninsula Minnesota, a beautiful part of the state. It’s gorgeous. Gorgeous, gorgeous place. Yep. How’s the flooding rebuilding going? Uh, pretty good actually. Last time I was up there, which is a couple of months ago. It’s come a long way. Yup. Yup. So what are, I guess where do you, when you, when you talk about there’s no really just start, you know, start and stop, but what, you know, something that, you know, if you’re a tech startup and you want to catch, you know, the MADC XY and getting either grantor, I guess, what, what, what’s going to catch your eye? Is it, you know, building nanotech? Is it software? Is it something unique? I guess what’s, what’s some criteria you guys are looking for that check those boxes? Yeah. So there’s a lot to unpack there for, first of all, we, the MBDC just so I’m clear, we don’t actually give grants to companies. Okay. So the way we work, we work through third parties. So in other words, if we want to do an early stage, a fund, we have one called the the first capital fund or the pre-seed fund. We put out an RFP request for proposal, people bid on it, and then we say, this is what we want to have accomplished. And we let professionals do that. So in this case, you might’ve heard of invest Detroit. Okay, invest Detroit does our first capital fund and that’s up to $150,000. Essentially it’s a, it’s a, uh, convertible debt. Um, and then the proceeds up to half million dollars. But that’s how we work. So we have professionals manage the money. We, so we don’t do correct. Direct grant took a, a company. Um, but as far as, as far as what gets funded, there’s a lot of variables obviously rented for economic development. Okay. So we’re not in it for the founders to make a lot of money. We’re not in it for investigatory. It isn’t a to make a lot of money. It’s all about economic development. So if there’s a path for the company to grow here in the state of Michigan and hire people and, and pay a, you know, a really good wage, that’s what, that’s what we’re looking for. So that’s really the primary. Well, and that’s what you need. I mean, you need, and that’s, you know, that’s kind of the point of changing the focal point of the economy is you need those new economic engines to take. Like, I mean that’s, that’s the issue. I mean, you know, the, the economic engine of the automotive industry died, you know, or, or five of six cylinders are gone, you know, and so it’s not, you know, as reliable as it used to be. And so if you’re going to have, you know, it’s, we’ve had this conversation a bunch where like Michigan was pretty much the walking, talking definition of middle-class for the longest time. And that’s a roaded very hard and heavily like you don’t have, cause you don’t have those engines powering that anymore. Very true. Very true. And it’s sad to see. Right? And so what we’re trying to do obviously is bring back good paying, good paying jobs. Yup. Very cool. Yeah. The one of the things I was thinking about also, I was just looking at all the emerging tech stuff and some of the things, you know, I brought it up right off the bat. It was all these battery companies. Then I then you, I don’t think I’ve heard a thing for nine months. Is that, is this still is, I mean, is this still a thing in a state where we’re, we’re trying to build like that next gen battery for the electric car, I guess, where, where does that all sit? Yeah, so, um, there was a, I think it was an Agus was before my time, but I believe in the Granholm era when she was governor, there was quite a bit of focus on battery technology. Um, and it might’ve been too early because it never really panned out very well. Um, but Western Michigan around Holland has got a couple of good, uh, really early stage battery companies that may get some, it may get some legs. So we, I don’t think from a state perspective, we’ve, you know, given up on that, I mean, that’s the kind of thing that has a long lead time. I mean, that’s, that those things have incredibly lengthy test cycles on them. Like it’s not like you don’t, Hey, we’re going to build a plant and start cranking out batteries and they’re gonna hit the market in six months. Like that’s, that’s a few year initiative. I’m sure you look, you look at Riviera getting all a, what do they get 100 million from Amazon? Um, definitely something to hang the F, you know, or to plant a flag on saying, Hey, look what we’re doing here. Look at, you know, between like, you know, duo being valued at $1 billion and things like reveal and getting on here. Yeah. I mean this is a, it’s some, some great success stories that surviving shocked Silicon Valley, especially when duo, you know, hit the billion dollar valuation got bothered. Something that’s not heard of and it’s, you know, it’s the same conversation, you know, you used to have with, you know, a lot of your peers at one of your prior gigs where, you know, you, I remember you saying you’d be on those conference calls and just kind of gets back to, you know, just some of the positives that Michigan has to offer. You know, your, your peers in New York and Boston and LA would be bitching about, you know, salary and not making enough money and all that kind of stuff. And you’re like, I don’t want you talking about I, I’m good. Yup. Oh, it’s definitely, you know, getting back to the battery. Um, there is, uh, a big federally funded and MBDC funded, uh, partially battery lab, uh, at the university of Michigan’s and they’re looking at solid state batteries. You know, like you said, it’s a long, it’s a long lead time, but who knows what could come out of that. Right. I mean, and it’s not like the automotive industry is dead because I mean you, you do still have, you know, all of the connected car, you know, technology and all of the, you know, whether it’s, you know, what I’d necessarily autonomous, but you know, all the, you know, the steps to autonomous and everything else. Um, you know, a lot of that is going on here. I mean, you know, they, there are, you know, testing centers, you know, testing basically fake cities that have been built around the area, you know, to test some of this technology. And it’s kinda cool to see that happen here as well. Oh yeah, no, there’s, there’s a huge investment by the state of Michigan, uh, through the MIDC an M. dot. And others, Michigan department of transportation and others in the automobile industry. Cause obviously it’s been the focal point for the state for years. And we are the leader. Uh, granted it’s, it’s, it’s, I think everyone would agree it’s gone down considerably, but we’re still the leader in automotive technology and we’re actually the leader right now in mobility. Um, when you look at, uh, Detroit and then you look at, uh, um, the ACM, the automobile, uh, uh, center for mobility out in Ypsilanti, and then the MCT out of the university of Michigan or other places. There’s a lot of energy right now put up into mobility. And actually the MADC has a brand new strategic plan, which we’ve been just rolling out. And what are the focus areas? Is mobility. Okay. Which you would imagine is crack is correct. Uh, one of the other areas is advanced manufacturing because we make things really, really well in this date. And while we have, uh, another focus is medical devices. So we have a, a very strong actually medical device. A lot of is in Western Michigan. You think of Stryker, uh, and other companies. We’ve actually had a few startups on here for medical devices now that I’m thinking about it. Yeah. Yup. And, and so, but that strike I know of, and that’s, you know, that’s also advanced manufacturing to a lot of the, uh, of the medical devices. So it’s kind of, you know, where our strengths are right now. So it’s going to be an interesting, I’m curious to get your take on it. If, if you, if you don’t have one, that’s fine. You could tell me how stupid. Um, the biggest issue right now with autonomous vehicles and getting is lidars and they have these big huge servers in the trunk is when at the end of the day when they’re collecting all this data is getting it uploaded into a data center. And what they’re doing now is they’re, they’re pulling these drives out and they’re shipping them via FedEx to data centers and the next two, three days are uploading this, uh, 20 terabyte or whatever, God knows how many, how much data is coming. So 5g now, you know, we talked about, you know, the government’s trying to give $1 billion away or something for our a 5g R and D here, your R and D here, uh, to compete with Huawei and to get ahead of the curve on that, which is good. We always, we hear it’s going to be the devil. Then we also hear it’s going to be our savior. Right. Uh, and you know, I’m just curious, is it, was there any buddy making headway on the, in the, in that department, the, and the 5g or in the, uh, data collection for, uh, for LIDAR? Uh, not, not from an MBDC perspective. I’m sure it’s happening around, but yeah, but we’re not, we’re not involved in that at this point. All right. That’s something that, you know, I’ve been following for a long time. We were doing some projects with some other companies, uh, in Germany cause they’re, you know, the data collection part. And like I said, the, it’s insane how much data these things are collecting. Um, so how does one find out about these zones? How does one find out about, you know, applying for one of these grant programs, that kind of stuff. Like where, where do people, like how you got an idea, where do you go? Yeah. So certainly if, if you’re in a university, so let’s say you’re still at a university, either you know, a postdoc or whatever, you have an idea at a university or you’re actually working professor at a university, you would work with your office of technology transfer. Okay? So if you have an idea, that’s where you would start. And then from there we have a three or four university programs. So we have about a third of our budget MBDC entrepreneurship budget. We have about a $16 million budget. About a third of it goes to universities. And there were, again, we’re trying to, to take technology and move it along to the point where it can be hopefully commercialized and then hopefully it’s, it’s strong enough to start a company. Okay. So that, that’s, that’s one of the places we go. So if you had a university, go to office in a technology transfer, if you’re outside of a university and you have a tech idea, you’d go to one of your local smart zones. Okay. And again, there’s 21 of those smart zones. But if you go to Michigan business.org forward slash entrepreneurship that will connect you to all our programs that we have and they’re, they’re considerable. I, I truly believe from a, from a nationwide perspective, it’s a state of Michigan’s tech entrepreneur. Entrepreneurship programs are one of the best in the country without a doubt. Interesting. So in just I guess just to clarify, cause we do our, our demographics are a lot weirder than we ever thought they were. Um, just tech stuff or other stuff. Yes. So it is, so the group that I lead is just tech. Okay. There is, there is a separate group at the med C that handles traditional, let’s call it traditional entrepreneurship. Okay. So if you wanted to, you know, start a restaurant or you know, hair salon or grocery store without, you know, traditional business, there is a group that helps support that same basic website and just start there. Yes, you could, you could go there, go to the MEDC website, Michigan business.org and you’ll be connected to those resources. Okay. Very cool. Awesome. Fred, seriously appreciate coming here on your day off and spend some time with us. Uh, definitely, you know, keep us in and, and you know, if you got any cool stories about any, uh, emerging companies, we’d love to have you back sometime and, uh, appreciate the time you spent with us. Great. My pleasure. Thank you gentlemen. Absolutely. So, Hey, this is going to wrap episode three 31 up for the it and the D show. Like to thank Fred Mueller from the med C. appreciate the, uh, definitely the insights and the stories given on some cool new companies coming here to the state of Michigan and, uh, how to be involved in, um, I guess, uh, on behalf of a Bob, Dave and Randy, do us all a favor, drink up your drinks, get your phone numbers. You don’t get to go home. You just gotta get the hell outta here. See you next week. Drive careful. Beat it. See you guys.   IT in the D On the web: http://www.ITinTheD.com On Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/ITintheD/ On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/IT-in-D-91763 On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ITintheD On Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ITintheD Podcast Detroit is at: On the web: http://www.podcastdetroit.com/ On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastDetroit On Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastDetroit On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/podcastdetroit  

Hey everyone, today on our episode we talk about some new singles that came out, Our new VNYL subscription, and a very special anniversary of an album! It has been ten years since the release of Anarbor's album "Free Your Mind". Listen to the album and come back to listen with us! Our Last Night also released their new album, so you can see what our opinions were of that... Sadly, we also talk about Warped Tour selling out and how our dreams are shattered... But hey, its all good, and what are a couple of emo kids without some dreams being shattered! Love you guys!

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In Episode 61 Angelo talks to Slade, Adam, and Danny from Anarbor! Topics: Their upcoming tour with Sundressed, their latest self-titled release, what it's like living in Arizona, Danny's pool, writing songs for Scooby Doo (amongst other amazing media channels), and much more! Find out more about Anarbor: https://anarborofficial.com Intro: Anarbor — Through the Night Full: Anarbor — Can't Help It Outro: Anarbor — Josie Follow us on Twitter @SpinThoughts and Angelo @AVGargaro. Subscribe to the show on iTunes, Google Play, and more. Visit our website: www.thespinningthoughts.com

In this episode I talk to Matthew Keller of the band Lydia about his production work with groups like Anarbor, The Summer Set, The Maine as well as his own group and many more. Go To NoiseCreators To Get To Know The Producers Behind Your Favorite Records: NoiseCreators.com Hosted by Jesse Cannon: jessecannon.com Show Notes: http://bit.ly/1m8hoBG Subscribe on iTunes: http://apple.co/1Yluk3v and review us there! Overcast.FM http://bit.ly/1I9OPhE and recommend us there! Noise Creators on Twitter: @noisecreators Jesse Cannon on Twitter: @jessecannon

This is the first broadcast on the MTAZS station. The Phoenix, Arizona band, Anarbor and the Tyler, Texas band Everly will be my first guests! They are both playing the More Than A Zodiac Sign concert on 1/17/09 in Dallas, which benefits the American Cancer Society.IM your questions to kristenMTAZS on AIM during the broadcast!http://www.myspace.com/anarborhttp://www.myspace.com/everlytxhttp://www.myspace.com/morethanazodiacsign

This is the first broadcast on the MTAZS station. The Phoenix, Arizona band, Anarbor and the Tyler, Texas band Everly will be my first guests! They are both playing the More Than A Zodiac Sign concert on 1/17/09 in Dallas, which benefits the American Cancer Society.IM your questions to kristenMTAZS on AIM during the broadcast!http://www.myspace.com/anarborhttp://www.myspace.com/everlytxhttp://www.myspace.com/morethanazodiacsign