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Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy, hosted by Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC—Renowned ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. We're thrilled to have you with us. We believe this podcast, a valuable resource, will empower you to push the boundaries in your work, helping individuals and couples connect more deeply with themselves and each other. In this powerful episode of the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy, Drs. Ryan Reyna and James Hawkins dive deep into the critical challenge therapists face when entering couples sessions without a strategic approach. They explore the pitfalls of entering therapy unprepared and provide practical insights for maintaining therapeutic effectiveness. Conversation Outline: The Therapist's Challenge Emotional complexity of couples therapy Sacrifices therapists make in helping distressed relationships Importance of professional preparedness Risks of Entering Sessions Without a Plan Potential for therapist triangulation Tendency to mediate instead of facilitating healing Danger of getting caught in reactive cycles Strategic Therapeutic Approach Understanding the couple's emotional "muscle" Developing a flexible, adaptive therapeutic plan Focusing on attachment patterns rather than surface conflicts Emotional Regulation Strategies Preparing therapist's nervous system Recognizing and interrupting destructive interaction patterns Creating safety through structured intervention Closing Summary: Your preparedness, empathy, and commitment create a transformative space where healing becomes possible—one vulnerable moment at a time. Remember: In the landscape of human relationships, you are not just a therapist, but a skilled navigator helping couples rediscover their fundamental connection. Upcoming events, if you would like to train with James or Ryan… You can do a joint Core Skills (Colorado) with Lisa J. Palmer-Olsen & Dr. James Hawkins. Core Skills Modules 1 and 2 will be held October 8-10, 2025, and Core Skills Modules 3 and 4 will be held January 7-9, 2026. You can register at https://courses.efft.org/courses/2025-core-skills-colorado. October 15-18, 2025, you can do an Externship with James in beautiful Bend, Oregon. You can register at https://www.counseloregon.com. You can train with Ryan, as well as George Faller, doing a live and some time with James, at the annual Arkansas EFT Center externship. July 29-August 1, 2025, in person, in Fayetteville, Arkansas. https://www.arkansaseft.com/events/externship We would like to invite everyone to come hang out and learn with the SV team at the first-ever SV Focus Lab. This is an advanced, EFCT training intending to push the edge with a focus on nuance in application, illuminating EFT and Sue's incredible model.” You can learn more and register by going to https://www.svfocuslab.com. Leading edge listeners who register before July 1 with the code svfocuslab.com/leadingedge get a 10% discount. To support our mission and help us continue producing impactful content, your financial contributions via Venmo (@leftpodcast) are greatly appreciated. They play a significant role in keeping this valuable resource available and are a testament to your commitment to our cause. We aim to equip therapists with practical tools and encouragement for addressing relational distress. We're also excited to be part of the team behind Success in Vulnerability (SV)—your premier online education platform. SV offers innovative instruction to enhance your therapeutic effectiveness through exclusive modules and in-depth clinical examples. Stay connected with us: Facebook: Follow our page @pushtheleadingedge Ryan: Follow @ryanranaprofessionaltraining on Facebook and visit his website James: Follow @dochawklpc on Facebook and Instagram, or visit his website at dochawklpc.com George Faller: Visit georgefaller.com If you like the concepts discussed on this podcast you can explore our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Thank you for being part of our community. Let's push the leading edge together!
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy, hosted by Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC—Renowned ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. We're thrilled to have you with us. We believe this podcast, a valuable resource, will empower you to push the boundaries in your work, helping individuals and couples connect more deeply with themselves and each other. Summary: In this episode of the Leading Edge EFT Podcast, Dr. James Hawkins and his wife Nicola explore two critical questions from EFT therapists about navigating complex couple therapy moments. The discussion focuses on validation techniques, managing partner reactions during therapeutic interventions, and the nuanced art of creating emotional safety in couples therapy. Key Topics: Validation in EFT: Validating attachment functions, not harmful behaviors Balancing validation between partners Recognizing the underlying emotional needs behind challenging behaviors Therapeutic Enactments: Navigating client resistance to sharing emotions Helping clients express vulnerable feelings in new ways Understanding the emotional landscape behind repeated communication patterns Action Items: Explore validation techniques that honor both partners' emotional experiences Practice creating safety when challenging client interaction patterns Consider attending upcoming EFT training opportunities Memorable Quote: "You can earn the right to challenge after first meeting your client with validation." Upcoming events, if you would like to train with James or Ryan… You can do a joint Core Skills (Colorado) with Lisa J. Palmer-Olsen & Dr. James Hawkins. Core Skills Modules 1 and 2 will be held October 8-10, 2025, and Core Skills Modules 3 and 4 will be held January 7-9, 2026. You can register at https://courses.efft.org/courses/2025-core-skills-colorado. October 15-18, 2025, you can do an Externship with James in beautiful Bend, Oregon. You can register at https://www.counseloregon.com. You can train with Ryan, as well as George Faller, doing a live and some time with James, at the annual Arkansas EFT Center externship. July 29-August 1, 2025, in person, in Fayetteville, Arkansas. https://www.arkansaseft.com/events/externship We would like to invite everyone to come hang out and learn with the SV team at the first-ever SV Focus Lab. This is an advanced, EFCT training intending to push the edge with a focus on nuance in application, illuminating EFT and Sue's incredible model.” You can learn more and register by going to https://www.svfocuslab.com. Leading edge listeners who register before July 1 with the code svfocuslab.com/leadingedge get a 10% discount. To support our mission and help us continue producing impactful content, your financial contributions via Venmo (@leftpodcast) are greatly appreciated. They play a significant role in keeping this valuable resource available and are a testament to your commitment to our cause. We aim to equip therapists with practical tools and encouragement for addressing relational distress. We're also excited to be part of the team behind Success in Vulnerability (SV)—your premier online education platform. SV offers innovative instruction to enhance your therapeutic effectiveness through exclusive modules and in-depth clinical examples. Stay connected with us: Facebook: Follow our page @pushtheleadingedge Ryan: Follow @ryanranaprofessionaltraining on Facebook and visit his website James: Follow @dochawklpc on Facebook and Instagram, or visit his website at dochawklpc.com George Faller: Visit georgefaller.com If you like the concepts discussed on this podcast you can explore our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Thank you for being part of our community. Let's push the leading edge together!
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy, hosted by Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC—Renowned ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. We're thrilled to have you with us. We believe this podcast, a valuable resource, will empower you to push the boundaries in your work, helping individuals and couples connect more deeply with themselves and each other. This podcast episode focuses on the critical concept of "timing" in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT), specifically when and how therapists should "play it" during therapeutic sessions. Hosts Dr. James Hawkins and Dr. Ryan Reyna discuss the importance of recognizing and responding to vulnerable emotions and caregiving moments in couples therapy. Main Points: Key Ingredients of a Secure Bond Vulnerable, live emotion Accessible, responsive, and engaged (ARE) caregiving system Timing Considerations Earlier in therapy: Play moments quickly (less room for vulnerability) Later in therapy: More space to let emotions develop Clinical decision-making about when to intervene Critical Moments to "Play It" When vulnerable emotion emerges When a caregiving response is present Before the moment passes or the cycle interrupts vulnerability Risks of Not Playing the Moment Clients may exit the vulnerable space Emotional opportunities can be lost Cycle of interaction can revert to negative patterns Practical Advice Catch and recognize emotional moments Make clinical decisions about intervention Prioritize creating space for emotional connection The episode includes a role-play demonstration illustrating these principles, emphasizing the importance of therapist attunement and timely intervention. Upcoming events, if you would like to train with James or Ryan… You can do a joint Core Skills (Colorado) with Lisa J. Palmer-Olsen & Dr. James Hawkins. Core Skills Modules 1 and 2 will be held October 8-10, 2025, and Core Skills Modules 3 and 4 will be held January 7-9, 2026. You can register at https://courses.efft.org/courses/2025-core-skills-colorado. October 15-18, 2025, you can do an Externship with James in beautiful Bend, Oregon. You can register at https://www.counseloregon.com. You can train with Ryan, as well as George Faller, doing a live and some time with James, at the annual Arkansas EFT Center externship. July 29-August 1, 2025, in person, in Fayetteville, Arkansas. https://www.arkansaseft.com/events/externship We would like to invite everyone to come hang out and learn with the SV team at the first-ever SV Focus Lab. This is an advanced, EFCT training intending to push the edge with a focus on nuance in application, illuminating EFT and Sue's incredible model.” You can learn more and register by going to https://www.svfocuslab.com. Leading edge listeners who register before July 1 with the code svfocuslab.com/leadingedge get a 10% discount. To support our mission and help us continue producing impactful content, your financial contributions via Venmo (@leftpodcast) are greatly appreciated. They play a significant role in keeping this valuable resource available and are a testament to your commitment to our cause. We aim to equip therapists with practical tools and encouragement for addressing relational distress. We're also excited to be part of the team behind Success in Vulnerability (SV)—your premier online education platform. SV offers innovative instruction to enhance your therapeutic effectiveness through exclusive modules and in-depth clinical examples. Stay connected with us: Facebook: Follow our page @pushtheleadingedge Ryan: Follow @ryanranaprofessionaltraining on Facebook and visit his website James: Follow @dochawklpc on Facebook and Instagram, or visit his website at dochawklpc.com George Faller: Visit georgefaller.com If you like the concepts discussed on this podcast you can explore our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Thank you for being part of our community. Let's push the leading edge together!
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy, hosted by Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC—Renowned ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. We're thrilled to have you with us. We believe this podcast, a valuable resource, will empower you to push the boundaries in your work, helping individuals and couples connect more deeply with themselves and each other. Overview and Themes: This podcast episode is the finale of the "Resistant Client Series," focusing on how therapists can transform client resistance into opportunities for deeper emotional connection and healing. Main Themes: 1. Understanding Resistance as Protective Behavior - Resistance isn't a problem to eliminate, but a weight-bearing mechanism protecting relationship dynamics - Every resistant stance has an attachment significance - Clients aren't being difficult; they're managing deep emotional fears 2. Theory of Change in EFT - Replace resistance with corrective emotional experiences - Help clients make clear emotional signals - Enable partners to provide compassionate comfort - Support clients in truly receiving and embodying that comfort 3. Clinical Wisdom - Don't lose hope with challenging clients - Trust the attachment map - Be intentional about vulnerability in therapeutic interventions - Focus on helping clients understand their own emotional experiences Closing Summary: In the intricate dance of human connection, resistance is not an obstacle, but a doorway. Each defensive stance whispers a profound story of fear, longing, and the desperate hope to be truly seen and loved. As therapists, our sacred work is not to dismantle these protective walls, but to gently illuminate the tender heart beating behind them. We are architects of hope, helping couples rediscover the language of vulnerability, transforming cycles of pain into rhythms of connection. Every moment of resistance carries within it the seed of healing - waiting to be understood, honored, and transformed. Keep pushing the leading edge. Keep believing in love's remarkable capacity to heal. Upcoming events, if you would like to train with James or Ryan… You can do a joint Core Skills (Colorado) with Lisa J. Palmer-Olsen & Dr. James Hawkins. Core Skills Modules 1 and 2 will be held October 8-10, 2025, and Core Skills Modules 3 and 4 will be held January 7-9, 2026. You can register at https://courses.efft.org/courses/2025-core-skills-colorado. October 15-18, 2025, you can do an Externship with James in beautiful Bend, Oregon. You can register at https://www.counseloregon.com. You can train with Ryan, as well as George Faller, doing a live and some time with James, at the annual Arkansas EFT Center externship. July 29-August 1, 2025, in person, in Fayetteville, Arkansas. https://www.arkansaseft.com/events/externship We would like to invite everyone to come hang out and learn with the SV team at the first-ever SV Focus Lab. This is an advanced, EFCT training intending to push the edge with a focus on nuance in application, illuminating EFT and Sue's incredible model.” You can learn more and register by going to https://www.svfocuslab.com. Leading edge listeners who register before July 1 with the code svfocuslab.com/leadingedge get a 10% discount. To support our mission and help us continue producing impactful content, your financial contributions via Venmo (@leftpodcast) are greatly appreciated. They play a significant role in keeping this valuable resource available and are a testament to your commitment to our cause. We aim to equip therapists with practical tools and encouragement for addressing relational distress. We're also excited to be part of the team behind Success in Vulnerability (SV)—your premier online education platform. SV offers innovative instruction to enhance your therapeutic effectiveness through exclusive modules and in-depth clinical examples. Stay connected with us: Facebook: Follow our page @pushtheleadingedge Ryan: Follow @ryanranaprofessionaltraining on Facebook and visit his website James: Follow @dochawklpc on Facebook and Instagram, or visit his website at dochawklpc.com George Faller: Visit georgefaller.com If you like the concepts discussed on this podcast you can explore our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Thank you for being part of our community. Let's push the leading edge together!
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy, hosted by Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC—Renowned ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. We're thrilled to have you with us. We believe this podcast, a valuable resource, will empower you to push the boundaries in your work, helping individuals and couples connect more deeply with themselves and each other. Key Highlights: Counterintuitive approach: When clients become reactive, therapists should move towards the emotion, not away from it Reactivity is a signal of underlying fear and pain that needs acknowledgment The goal is to help clients organize and understand their emotional experience Main Points: Understanding Reactivity Reactivity indicates a need for emotional organization Therapists must first ground themselves to stay present Look for cues like voice changes, slower pace, and "yes" signaling Therapeutic Approach Move towards the reactivity with curiosity and empathy Co-create meaning with the client Help clients understand the attachment function of their emotional response Trust and Corrective Experience Develop trust that vulnerable emotions exist beneath resistance Be willing to take vulnerable steps before seeing the full result Learn through practice and experiencing successful interventions Practical Strategies: Validate the function of protective behaviors Slow down the process Become an "attachment interpreter" Closing Insight: EFT aims to help clients find flexibility in their reactive moments and connect with each other, not eliminate reactivity. Upcoming events, if you would like to train with James or Ryan… You can do a joint Core Skills (Colorado) with Lisa J. Palmer-Olsen & Dr. James Hawkins. Core Skills Modules 1 and 2 will be held October 8-10, 2025, and Core Skills Modules 3 and 4 will be held January 7-9, 2026. You can register at https://courses.efft.org/courses/2025-core-skills-colorado. October 15-18, 2025, you can do an Externship with James in beautiful Bend, Oregon. You can register at https://www.counseloregon.com. You can train with Ryan, as well as George Faller, doing a live and some time with James, at the annual Arkansas EFT Center externship. July 29-August 1, 2025, in person, in Fayetteville, Arkansas. https://www.arkansaseft.com/events/externship We would like to invite everyone to come hang out and learn with the SV team at the first-ever SV Focus Lab. This is an advanced, EFCT training intending to push the edge with a focus on nuance in application, illuminating EFT and Sue's incredible model.” You can learn more and register by going to https://www.svfocuslab.com. Leading edge listeners who register before July 1 with the code svfocuslab.com/leadingedge get a 10% discount. To support our mission and help us continue producing impactful content, your financial contributions via Venmo (@leftpodcast) are greatly appreciated. They play a significant role in keeping this valuable resource available and are a testament to your commitment to our cause. We aim to equip therapists with practical tools and encouragement for addressing relational distress. We're also excited to be part of the team behind Success in Vulnerability (SV)—your premier online education platform. SV offers innovative instruction to enhance your therapeutic effectiveness through exclusive modules and in-depth clinical examples. Stay connected with us: Facebook: Follow our page @pushtheleadingedge Ryan: Follow @ryanranaprofessionaltraining on Facebook and visit his website James: Follow @dochawklpc on Facebook and Instagram, or visit his website at dochawklpc.com George Faller: Visit georgefaller.com If you like the concepts discussed on this podcast you can explore our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Thank you for being part of our community. Let's push the leading edge together!
Welcome to the Leading Edge in Emotionally Focused Therapy, hosted by Drs. James Hawkins, Ph.D., LPC, and Ryan Rana, Ph.D., LMFT, LPC—Renowned ICEEFT Therapists, Supervisors, and Trainers. We're thrilled to have you with us. We believe this podcast, a valuable resource, will empower you to push the boundaries in your work, helping individuals and couples connect more deeply with themselves and each other. This "Push the Leading Edge" podcast episode explores the concept of the "Attachment Dilemma" in therapy, focusing on how therapists can effectively work with resistant clients. Hosts Dr. James Hawkins and Dr. Ryan Reyna provide insights, personal stories, and practical techniques for understanding and navigating client resistance using Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) principles. Conversation Outline: 1. Introduction - Upcoming EFT training events - Appreciation for EFT community leaders and volunteers 2. Attachment Dilemma Concept - Defining resistance in therapy - Metaphors: Bomb-sniffing dog, technology troubleshooting - Core idea: Clients are stuck between connection longing and protection strategies 3. Therapeutic Approach - Slow down the therapeutic process - Validate client's experience - Recognize there are "no good moves" in their current cycle - Demonstrate understanding of their stuck position 4. Demonstration Techniques - Exploring pursuer and withdrawer attachment patterns - Repetitive validation of the client's experience - Focusing on the emotional experience, not problem-solving 5. Key Takeaways - Trust the therapeutic process - Repeat understanding to help client's nervous system feel seen - Aim to help clients recognize their cyclical patterns The episode provides a deep dive into compassionate, nuanced therapeutic intervention for challenging client situations. To support our mission and help us continue producing impactful content, your financial contributions via Venmo (@leftpodcast) are greatly appreciated. They play a significant role in keeping this valuable resource available and are a testament to your commitment to our cause. We aim to equip therapists with practical tools and encouragement for addressing relational distress. We're also excited to be part of the team behind Success in Vulnerability (SV)—your premier online education platform. SV offers innovative instruction to enhance your therapeutic effectiveness through exclusive modules and in-depth clinical examples. Stay connected with us: Facebook: Follow our page @pushtheleadingedge Ryan: Follow @ryanranaprofessionaltraining on Facebook and visit his website James: Follow @dochawklpc on Facebook and Instagram, or visit his website at dochawklpc.com George Faller: Visit georgefaller.com If you like the concepts discussed on this podcast you can explore our online training program, Success in Vulnerability (SV). Thank you for being part of our community. Let's push the leading edge together! SV Focus Lab-https://www.svfocuslab.com/ Training Opportunities with James. Externship in Bend, Oregon - https://www.counseloregon.com/coeft/externship Core Skills in Hourston - https://hceft.org/events/ Core Skills in Boulder Colorado - https://courses.efft.org/courses/2025-core-skills-colorado Training Opportunities with Ryan. Externship in Indiana - https://www.indyeft.com/general-7 Externship in Northwest Arkansas - https://www.arkansaseft.com/events/externship
Our guest on this week's episode of My Veterinary Life Podcast is Paige Durham, a third-year veterinary student at the University of Missouri. During this interview, Paige shares what her experience has been like as a student extern at the AVM A in the Membership and Field Services Division. She discusses balancing being a student, commitments as a local SAVMA president and exploring all that veterinary medicine has to offer. The discussion highlights the challenges and rewards of vet school, the importance of time management, and the diverse opportunities within the veterinary profession. Paige also emphasizes the value of networking and seeking mentorship to navigate career paths effectively.Thank you to our podcast partner Hill's Pet Nutrition! You can find more information about Hill's Pet Nutrition at https://www.hillspet.com/ and https://www.hillsvet.com/.Remember we want to hear from you! Please be sure to subscribe to our feed on Appe Podcasts and leave us a ratings and review. You can also contact us at MVLpodcast@avma.orgFollow us on social media @AVMAVets #MyVetLife #MVLPodcast
What if you could gain real-world experience, learn from top industry experts, and watch a financial plan come together in real time? Today's guest, Hannah Moore, is here to share a unique opportunity that can help you do just that. The creator of The Amplified Planning Externship, Hannah joins the show to discuss why she started it, how it works, and the valuable experience it offers aspiring financial planners. Listen in to hear what's new for the 2025 Externship, as well as exciting updates from the previous year. You'll learn how you can sign up for the Externship and take the next step in building your career. If you're interested in gaining real-world financial planning experience, learning from industry experts, and developing the skills needed to succeed as a planner, this episode is for you! You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://bit.ly/3FzbZSy
Thanks to the AMAZING people at exocad (https://exocad.com/ids), Elvis and Barb will be recording for the first time at IDS in Cologne, Germany (https://www.english.ids-cologne.de/). March 25 - 28 in Hall 1, booth A040/C041. Come see us, be on the podcast, and see all the amazing things exocad is doing for your lab! This year, we are thrilled to welcome back Renata Budny, our very first guest, alongside two inspiring students from the New York City College of Technology: Sevastiani Perselis and Rebca Nikedemos The episode begins with Renata sharing her experiences over the past seven years, reminiscing about the first time she joined us at CDT Fest and how that moment sparked her journey with our podcast. This year, she brings along two remarkable students who have unique stories and backgrounds, each with a passion for dental technology. Sevastiani, originally from Greece, shares her journey of moving to America at a young age with her family. She discusses the challenges of adjusting to a new culture and the differences in food and lifestyle. Sevastiani's determination led her to pursue her education in dental technology, where she found her calling. Her love for the craft shines through as she describes the joy of working in her father's dental lab and the satisfaction of seeing happy patients. Rebca, on the other hand, comes from a lineage of dental professionals in Ethiopia. She recounts her family's history, with her grandfather being the first dental clinic owner in the country. This legacy inspired her to follow in their footsteps and pursue a career in dental technology. As a first-year student, Rebca shares her initial fears and the excitement of learning in a new environment. She emphasizes the importance of making mistakes as part of the learning process, a sentiment echoed by her peers. Take it from Laura Prosser, the digital marketing manager for Ivoclar North America (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us). She would like to invite you to start following them on Instagram. It's your chance to obtain exclusive updates on product announcements, industry news, upcoming educational events, and heartwarming stories about our local team and industry professionals. Let's get social together. Simply start following us on Instagram @Ivoclar.na (https://www.instagram.com/ivoclar.na/). We'll see you there. Are you a dental lab in need of more talent to improve your bottom line and keep production on schedule? Are you a dental tech with great skills but feel you're being limited at your current lab? Well, the answer is here and this is precisely why WIN WIN GO (https://www.winwingo.com/) was created. The dental lab and dental tech community needed a place where labs and technicians can meet, talk about their needs and connect in ways that foster a win win outcome. As a tech. If you're ready to make a change, thinking about moving in the next year or just curious what's out there, sign up today. It's totally free. As a lab, you might be feeling the frustration of paying the big employment site so much and getting so few tech candidates. We understand they don't much care about our industry. WINWINGO.com is simply the best place for lab techs and lab owners to actively engage in creating their ideal future. WINWINGO.com, how dental techs find paradise. Special Guests: Rebca Nikedemos, Renata Budny, CDT, TE, and Sevastiani Perselis.
Today – Sun business reporter Tamara Chuang talks about a new state-back program that is getting STEM teachers some real-life experiences through externships with local businesses.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Career Planning process consists of self-assessment, education, research, gain experience, job search, and professional development.SELF-ASSESSMENTSelf-assessment is exploring and discovering your VIPS. VIPS stands for values, interests, personality, and skills. Values are things that are important to you. Examples of values are creativity, growth, acceptance, etc. Interests are things you like doing. Examples of interests are music, painting, writing, etc.Personality traits are who you are. Examples of personality traits are ENFJ- People Visionary, ISFP- Everyday Artist, ENTJ- Hardworking Visionary, etc.Skills are things you are you good. Some examples of skills are drawing, problem solving, analyze data, etc.The way to find out what your VIPS are to take career assessment.There are several career assessment tests available online. For high school student-athletes check with your guidance counselor, college student-athletes talk with your academic advisor or someone in career services. For professional athletes check with your Players association. There are no wrong or right answers with career assessment.RESEARCHMake a list of careers of interest. Research each one. Here is a list od career research resources: Occupational Outlook handbook, Glassdoor, How to become, Indeed, The Balance Careers, just to name a few.Research information such as job responsibilities/description, work environment, education/training/certification, career path, examples of job positions, and salary.EDUCATIONLearn as much as possible. Don't just get a degree, get an education, GAIN EXPERIENCETYPES OF GAIN EXPEREINCES:Internship- allow students to apply classroom knowledge with a professional setting.Micro-Internship- project-based positions that involve a much smaller time commitment.Job Shadowing- offers you an opportunity to observe a professional currently working in a career field of your interest.Research- participate in research in your academic department.Externship- temporary job-shadowing programs that last anywhere from an afternoon to a few weeks.Job Simulations- 6–7-hour virtual roles where students can explore what it's like to work at some of the largest companies in the world.LinkedIn Learning- can help develop all kinds of transferable skills.Part-time jobs- can take place on or off campus. Volunteerism- giving of yourself within expecting anything in return.Student organization- gain management and leadership while collaborating with peers to organize various projects.Where to find internships Handshake, LinkedIn, Indeed , Internships.com, professional organizations, or company websitesJOB SEARCHCreate a job criteria. An Example:POSITION: Human Resources SpecilaistLOCATION: Houston areaTYPES OF ORGANIZATION: Medium sizeCAREER AREA: CompensationWORK ENVIRONMENT: Remote or HyridTRAVEL: A littleTYPES OF BENEFITS: 401(k), Health, Life , Dental and Vision Insurance, Disability Insurance, Paid Vacation, Maximize your resources and your network.CAREER MANAGEMENTPersonalize your plan.One thing you can do is keeping learning.
In the episode, our guests, Julie Ardito, APR, Olive Giner, and Daphne Arreola Gonzalez, share their invaluable experiences and insights into how the externship at KPS3 has opened doors and expanded horizons. Hear from a recent student extern, an extern who worked their way up from extern to account coordinator to public relations specialist, and the experienced APR who led the PR charge for the agency. What's YOUR next career move?
Curious about advancing your career in financial planning? Join us as we sit down with Hannah Moore, the mastermind behind the Amplified Planning Externship Program, now in its 5th year. In this episode, Hannah reveals the intricacies of the program, its target audience, and the recent updates. Discover why participants return year after year, as well as the value the program offers, regardless of your career stage. Listen in as Hannah shares her motivation behind launching the externship and the lasting impact it's making on the profession. You will learn how this program is shaping the next generation of financial planners, why it's more than just a one-time opportunity, and how this transformative journey can evolve with your career. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://tinyurl.com/2y522w75
A Conversation in Veterinary Pathology - The A.C.V.P. Podcast
Are you a veterinary student with an interest in veterinary pathology? Or perhaps you already have a passion for veterinary pathology but are unsure about the various career options available? The American College of Veterinary Pathologists (ACVP) offers an externship scholarship for veterinary students so they can explore the world of veterinary pathology! In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Keith Nelson of the ACVP Student Externship Scholarship Committee to learn more about the Externship Scholarship Program. We also learn about Dr. Nelson's personal journey in pathology and his theory behind volunteering. We look forward to our conversation! More information on the ACVP Externship Scholarship Program: https://www.acvp.org/page/ExternshipScholarships Remember, the deadlines to submit externship scholarship applications are March 1 and October 1 every year. Link to the ACVP Errors in Publications Portal: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ACVP_Errors Music: Guestlist by Podington Bear, licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License. The contents of this audio do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the American College of Veterinary Pathologists (ACVP) or the participants' affiliations. Spoken audio content and associated photos are the property of the American College of Veterinary Pathologists, 2024.
www.CPOPLAYBOOK.comEpisode TranscriptAboutKey takeaways from this podcast episode include a decline in confidence in traditional higher education due to rising costs and uncertain job prospects. Matt Wilkerson, CEO and Co-founder at Extern introduced externships as a solution, offering students real-world projects remotely and helping companies engage with more students efficiently. Despite the advantages of skills-based hiring, its limited prevalence is attributed to challenges in standardization. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the need for innovative solutions like externships to bridge the gap between academic preparation and workplace readiness.*Matt WilkersonMatt is the Co-founder & CEO of Extern which invented the remote Externship, a new form of work experience with integrated learning. Externships let people quickly build their resumes with real work experiences remotely while giving companies expert-designed, turnkey projects that drive business outcomes.Previously known as Paragon One, last year Extern served 8,800 multi-week Externships to students out of nearly 100,000 applications on behalf of brands like PwC, Home Depot, AT&T, HSBC, Macquarie, HP, National Geographic, Beats by Dre, Hugo Boss, and more. Extern's mission is to enable anyone from any background to access professional experience, and its vision is to enable people to build their resume while earning their degree.It's backed by Foundation Capital, Launch Fund, Learn Capital, University Ventures, and YCombinator. Matt previously co-founded and was CFO of AHAlife, a luxury online marketplace for discovering 1,000+ designers and artisans from 45+ countries, which raised over $20M of venture capital and merged with ASX-listed Design Milk.Before launching AHAlife, Matt sourced, executed, and oversaw consumer internet investments with Technology Crossover Ventures, a $10Bn venture capital fund. Prior to TCV, Matt began his career in the Media & Telecom Investment Banking Group at Morgan Stanley, focusing on M&A, IPO, and debt issuances for new media and telecom companies. Matt holds both a B.S. degree in Computer Science & Engineering and a B.S. in Management Science from MIT.
When we think about health professions training we often think of physicians. However, the health professions field encompasses so many more professionals, many of whom are in high-demand at FQHCs. In this episode, we will hear from Erie Family Health Centers, Inc. on their unique training programs for Medical Assistants, such as an medical assistant externship program and a relationship with the National Institute for Medical Assistant Advancement. We also discuss Erie's summer internship program and hear about their work with behavioral health, nursing, and public health students.
Nittany Lion student-athletes Ali Brigham (women's basketball) & Michela Barbanente (softball) discuss the opportunity to participate in an externship with CBS Sports thanks to development & enrichment programs here at Penn State.
So you want to work in the NICU. First of all - cheers to that! You have a major goal to help some of the most fragile (but also resilient) tiny humans we can help, which is exciting and inspirational! But how the heck do you do it? What does the journey of a non-NICU SLP look like while becoming a NICU SLP? Khaki Brown, MS CCC-SLP, CNT is here to help! Khaki is an SLP and NICU infant feeding specialist who dedicates part of her time supporting new SLPs in their journey towards helping medically fragile infants through her business, Khaki Feeds Babies. In this episode of the Swallow Your Pride Podcast, you'll learn about the challenges and rewards of working in the NICU, the importance of continuing education, and the significance of building relationships within the field. Brown shares her journey from wanting to be a teacher to becoming an SLP and provides tips for those interested in working in the NICU. This episode leans hard into the importance of self-learning, mentorship, and understanding the developmental needs of infants in the NICU. Get the show notes at: https://syppodcast.com/308 Timestamps: Khaki's Journey to the NICU (00:02:27) Learning in the Externship (00:06:00) Tips for Getting into the NICU Setting (00:08:00) The importance of building connections with NICU professionals (00:09:18) Limited coursework on pediatric feeding in graduate programs (00:10:25) The multifaceted approach to feeding in the NICU (00:14:38) The importance of involving the entire team (00:17:58) Partnering with parents for feeding goals (00:19:12) Building rapport with nurses in the NICU (00:20:35) The importance of direct care in the NICU (00:27:32) Tips for breaking into the NICU (00:28:01) Closing remarks and call to action (00:28:17) The post 308 – Becoming a NICU SLP: Tips, Strategies, Suggestions, and More with Khaki Brown appeared first on Swallow Your Pride Podcast.
Our guest this week just finished her externship with the AVMA. Megan Kellen, Doctor of Veterinary Medicine Candidate at Iowa State University, gives us her unique perspective about the experience. We learn how she combines math, science, and the love of animals in vet med. We discuss the importance of being involved in your SAVMA chapter and knowing what is being advocated for in your state. We talk about the importance of open lines of communication at every level and 5-year plans. This was a great conversation and we can't wait to share it with you!Remember we want to hear from you! Please be sure to subscribe to our feed on Apple Podcasts and leave us a ratings and review. You can also contact us at MVLPodcast@avma.orgFollow us on social media @AVMAVets #MyVetLife #MVLPodcast
We constantly talk about the lack of technicians in our industry. So why are the few programs left struggling to fill the seats? Brooke Harris is out to change that. Brooke is the Director of Dental Technology Program at the Indiana University Fort Wayne (https://fortwayne.iu.edu/dental-education/technology/index.html) school. Brooke talks about getting into dental technology, the labs she worked at, going back to teach, becoming the director, creating a better program, switching to a bachelor program, and trying to raise awareness of the program and the profession in general. Did you know that Ivoclar (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us) has Digital Equipment Sales Specialists (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/landing-pages/digital-equipment)? These experienced professionals are here to help make your transition to digital, a smooth one. They help provide customized solutions, analyze your ROI, provide hands on assistance and localized support. All of this, catered to your needs. Contact a Digital Equipment Sales Specialist today by emailing Digitalspecialists@ivoclar.com. Tell them you heard it on the podcast! Whether you are looking to elevate your craftsmanship or looking to cut back costs, look no further – VITA MFT Teeth (https://vitanorthamerica.com/en-US/VITA-MFT-Anterior-369,273,126133.html) are the ultimate solution for creating lifelike and stunning smiles. Crafted with precision and backed by cutting-edge technology, VITA MFT Teeth offers unparalleled esthetics and durability. And since VITA (https://vitanorthamerica.com/) believes in the power of experiencing excellence firsthand, for a limited time only, they're offering you the chance to get a complimentary case sample. That's right, a full case, absolutely free. Just visit vitanorthamerica.com/freemft (https://www2.vitanorthamerica.com/mft/) Don't wait any longer to start providing your customers with a premium tooth at an economy price. Redeem your free case sample and if you're ready to buy, VITA will even give you an extra 10% discount by shopping online on their newly launched online store. Join the VITA family today. Special Guest: Brooke Harris CDT, TE.
Welcome to another episode of Questions With Crocker! This week Dr. Crocker and Shane discuss ways to find the right externship/internship and how you can stand out from the crowd to secure such an opportunity.Episodes release weekly on Thursdays at 9am EST and are available on all podcast platforms including a video version on YouTube!Have a question for the podcast? Email questionswithcrocker@gmail.com for your question to be featured on an upcoming episode!TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@questionswithcrockerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/questionswithcrocker/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClk4BQm7SRDXJpdzraAkKRwTIMESTAMPSIntro - 00:00Listener Question (@caitlinrossi) - 05:54
Cathy Santos, a student at Virginia-Maryland College of Veterinary Medicine, is our guest for this episode. We refer to her as “our Cathy” as she is a student extern with the membership division for the AVMA. She tells us the story of being saved by a terrier and how it has led her to become a veterinarian. She discusses being empowered to try new things during convention week, imposter syndrome, and the interworking's of the AVMA. From social networking, making personal connections, giving lectures, our Cathy has experienced just a few of the endless opportunities available. We are so excited to share this conversation with you. Remember we want to hear from you! Please be sure to subscribe to our feed on Apple Podcasts and leave us a ratings and review. You can also contact us at MVLPodcast@avma.orgYou can also follow us on social media @AVMAVets #MyVetLife #MVLPodcast
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In this special episode of Salty Talks, our dedicated communications intern, Jules, takes us on a deep dive into the Aquaculture Research Institutes (ARI) externship program in Maine. This isn't just talk; it's their final project. Listen in to uncover the significance of hands-on workforce development in Maine's aquaculture sector and hear the story of how experiential learning can shape careers. Join us for this captivating voyage, masterfully crafted by an intern passionate about merging experience with education.Learn more here!! https://online.flippingbook.com/view/835096550/
On August 27th many brave and fearless dental technicians will take to the water and road to participate in the 2023 Chicago Triathlon (https://www.chicagotriathlon.com/). They don't do it for fame or personal gain, but to raise money for the Foundation For Dental Laboratory Technology (https://dentallabfoundation.org/). PLEASE head over to dentallabfoundation.org (https://dentallabfoundation.org/) and click the DONATE TODAY button. Log in and choose the “Race for the Future” option. There you can put the name of a racer you want to sponsor. You can put: Barb Warner Team Abutments (Elvis Dahl, Mark Williamson, Bobby Kennedy) Voices From the Bench (50/50 split between Barb and Elvis' team) This week we talk about the underappreciated model room technicians that make the foundation of everything we make possible. Marsha Mais found herself in a dental laboratory. They put her where they put everyone when they start, the model room. Marsha loved it. She was good at it. Unfortunately she saw that she did not get the respect and appreciation that many other technicians got. Marsha talks about her journey, some really neat tricks she has picked up over the years, and how we (as a industry) can do better showing love to the hard working people that is the "frontline" to all the analog (and sometimes digital) work coming in. Your digital inspiration is important to Ivoclar (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us) and they have the technology to support your digital future. Whether you are just about to introduce digital production into your laboratory, or if your laboratory is already set for the digital revolution – Ivoclar has the technology, support, and service package for YOUR specific needs. From the NEW and impressive PrograScan (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-equipment/prograscan-ps5-and-ps3-laborscanner) scanners to the PrograMill (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-equipment/programill-pm7) line up of milling systems and Programat (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/equipment/programat-ceramic-furnaces) furnaces, Ivoclar has you covered with technology AND trusted materials like Ivotion (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ivotion), e.max (https://www.ivoclar.com/makeitemax) and ZirCAD Prime (https://www.ivoclar.com/en_li/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad-prime-family). All of this under one roof! Customize YOUR Digital journey today by contacting your friendly Ivoclar sales representative (https://www.ivoclarusa.com/repfinder/technical.php)! Special Guest: Marsha Mais.
AABP Executive Director Dr. Fred Gingrich is joined by Dr. Pippa Gibbons, chair of the AABP Food Animal Educators Task Force, and Dr. Arn Anderson, AABP Board of Directors representative for District 8. Our topic is discussing the importance of externships for veterinary students and how this can impact retention and recruitment in bovine or mixed animal practice. It is important for practices to have a well-defined program and to ask students what their goals are for the externship experience. Anderson suggests having an externship coordinator in your practice who will manage the program. Practice liability is always a concern when hosting student externs. The AVMA PLIT has developed resources for practices and students. Suggestions include safety training, ensuring appropriate oversight of students, purchase the appropriate insurance, and develop liability waivers for students to sign when visiting your practice. AABP members should list their externship opportunities on the AABP website so students can find your externship and you can meet potential associates. Go to this link to list your practice or view externship opportunities. Practice owners should also consider the barriers that students have in attending externship experiences. These can include housing, financial burdens, and concerns with lack of experience. Try to remove or mitigate these barriers so that we can demonstrate the opportunities we have in bovine practice as a professional career. AABP provides externship grants to students to assist with the financial impacts of attending externship experiences. For more information and to apply for a grant, visit this page. Relevant publications:Gibbons, P. M., Wells, J. K., Watson, K. R., Weale, J. J., & Roberson, J. R. (2022). A mixed-method pilot study investigating challenges experienced by mixed animal veterinarians in practice and their private practice experiences prior to graduation. The Bovine Practitioner, 56(1), 18–28. https://doi.org/10.21423/bovine-vol56no1p18-28 Thomson, D. U., Thomson, J. U., Lubbers, B. V., Apley, M. D., Cull, C. A., Lechtenberg, K. F., McCoy, E. J., & Schwandt, E. F. (2017). A Survey of veterinary student exposure to and performance of clinical skills necessary for success in beef cattle veterinary practice and the relationship to the supply, demand, and value of proper training as beef cattle veterinarians. The Bovine Practitioner, 51(2), 215–228. https://doi.org/10.21423/bovine-vol51no2p215-228
Hannah Moore is the owner of Guiding Wealth, a financial planning firm based out of Dallas, TX. Also the creator and facilitator of the Financial Planning Externship Program, Hannah joins the show today to talk about what she has been up to over the last 2 years. If you're interested in participating in the Externship program, be sure to listen in and sign up today! Join us as Hannah talks about the Externship program, sharing exciting updates for its fourth year. She also provides details on the revamped format, logistics, and cost, as well as the value that participants can receive no matter their career stage. You'll learn her personal motivation for creating the program and how it's making a positive impact on the profession. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://bit.ly/3LejTjk
In this episode of have You Herd, AABP Executive Director is joined by two AABP student members. Mary Jo Cody is a 3rd year student at University of Madison Wisconsin and Kaitlyn Reinhardt is a 3rd year student at the University of Minnesota. Both students shared some of the challenges that students face in securing valuable externship experiences and the most common issues are housing, finding externships that are available, and finding paid externship opportunities. AABP President Dr. Sandra Godden shared in her president's message in the December 2022 AABP newsletter that paid externships are a wonderful opportunity for both students and practices. Both students found paid externships this past summer to not only gain valuable experiences, but make connections with practice owners and associates, while relieving some of the financial burden on the students. The guests are also open about how both veterinarians and students can make the most out of the externship. We close by discussing some of the interesting things the students experienced while on their externships. Students can apply for funding through the AABP Foundation. Go to this link to find out more information and apply. AABP members can also list their externship opportunities and students can find those opportunities on this page.
In this episode of Southeast Texas Works! we're joined by a panel of three special guests from TotalEnergies, Medical Center of Southeast Texas, and the Port of Port Arthur. Their companies participated in the Workforce Solutions Southeast Texas Teacher Externship Program in June 2022. The goal of the weeklong program is to educate teachers about in-demand jobs in these industries. For more information about the Teacher Externship program email business@setworks.org
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Ohio State's Student Nurse Externship is a continuous eight-week summer program in which nursing students work with highly skilled nurse preceptors gaining experience with multidisciplinary teams, in diverse specialty care areas in an atmosphere of learning and support. In this episode, we'll speak with Deb Francis, OSU's director of Health System Nursing Education; Sarah Susi, the associate director of James Nursing Transition to Practice, and three nurses who completed the extern program – they will share how this program is helping students gain on-the-job experience for their future role as an RN. Listeners will learn about the program, its benefits and outcomes, as well as hear first-hand experiences of recent graduates.
Bios:Ernest Gray Jr. is the pastor of Keystone Baptist Church located in the West Garfield Park neighborhood of Chicago. He is a graduate of the Moody Bible Institute with a degree in Pastoral Ministries, and a graduate of Wheaton College with a Master's Degree in Biblical Exegesis. He completed his PhD coursework at McMaster Divinity College and is currently completing his thesis within the corpus of 1 Peter. Mr. Gray has taught in undergraduate school of Moody in the areas of Hermeneutics, first year Greek Grammar, General Epistles, the Gospel of John and Senior Seminar. It is Mr. Gray's hope to impact the African American church through scholarship. Teaching has been one way that God has blessed him to live this out. Ernest is also co-host of the newly released podcast Just Gospel with an emphasis upon reading today's social and racial injustices through a gospel lens. www.moodyradio.org Jen Oyama Murphy "My love of good stories led me to Yale University where I received a BA in English. Upon graduation, I felt called to bring individual stories into relationship with the Gospel Story, and I have worked in the areas of campus and church ministry, lay counseling, and pastoral care since 1989. Over the years, I sought a variety of ongoing education and training in the fields of psychology and theology, including graduate classes at The Seattle School of Theology & Psychology and Benedictine University. I also completed the Training Certificate and Externship programs at The Allender Center, and I previously held roles on their Training and Pastoral Care Team, as Manager of Leadership Development, and most recently as the Senior Director of The Allender Center. Believing that healing and growth happens in the context of relationship, I work collaboratively to create a safe coaching space of curiosity and kindness where honesty, care, desire, and imagination can grow. Using my experience and expertise in a trauma-informed, narrative-focused approach, I seek to help people live the story they were most meant for and heal from the ones they were not. I am passionate about personal support and development, particularly for leaders in nonprofit or ministry settings, including lay leaders who may not have a formal title or position. I'm especially committed to engaging the personal and collective stories of those who have felt invisible, marginalized, and oppressed. I love facilitating groups as well as working individually with people. I currently live in Chicago with my husband, and we have two adult daughters.Rebecca Wheeler Walston lives in Virginia, has completed Law School at UCLA, holds a Master's in Marriage and Family Counseling, is also a licensed minister. Specializing in advising non-profits and small businesses. Specialties: providing the legal underpinning for start-up nonprofits and small businesses, advising nonprofit boards, 501c3 compliance, creating and reviewing business contracts.TJ PoonDr. Ernest Gray (00:41:40):Absolutely. Absolutely. There will be stories told in the next five, no, two or three years now about, this is the fascinating thing I'm trying to wrap my mind around is that it is this, I need to do a more research upon the Ukrainian Russian thing wherein you have, um, my ignorance, you have an apparent Eastern European, you have, uh, you know, have an eastern European kind of, this isn't anything about pigment autocracy, but culturally, I'm op I'm opposed to you because you have Russian descent, and I'm a Ukrainian descent. So upon the, upon the outside, it's not anything that has to do with the, with the merits of, of, of, uh, racial, racial, a racialized racialization. It has more to do with the cultural, um, ethnicity kind of, um, indicatives that create this hostility between the two. And to hear the atrocities that are ongoing right now against, you know, each o against the, the Ukrainian Russian conflict, right now, we're gonna hear about those things and, and, and hear just how egregious they are or whether it's the, um, the tusks and the Hutus in the Rwandan conflict, or whether it's the Bosnians versus the, um, the Serbians. I mean, there's gonna be a lot of that. There's, we, we find that these things occur, um, and that, and that it's, it's all because of these notions of superiority and, and tools of the enemy in order to, to, to divide and conquer. Um, and then coupled with power create, you know, devastating effects. I, I I, I, I think that there's a, um, there's a, there's a, the, the collectivist idea of seeing us all in the same boat with various facets is something that we need to strive. It's not easy to always to do. Um, but it's gotta happen. If we're going to create a, a better human, if we're not creative, if the Lord is gonna work in a way to, to help us, uh, move toward a better humanity, one that is at least honoring may not happen in our lifetime, may not happen until we see the Lord face to face. But at the same time, that's the work that we're, I'm called to is to be, uh, or, you know, to, to be the embodiment of some type of re repa posture, um, modeling for others what it could look like. Danielle (00:44:19):Sure. Yeah. Um, Rebecca and I put this in here, Hurt versus harm. Um, hurt being, and, and again, these, these are definitions coming from us, so I recognize that other people may have a different view and we can talk about that. Um, hurt being in, in, when Rebecca and I were talking about it inevitable in any relationship may cause painful feelings and hurt someone's feelings. Um, harm violating a person's dignity, and it takes energy non consensually from someone So how do individual hurts add to or cement structural power structures and our perspective and experience of harm? How do individual hurts add to or cement structural power structures and our perspective and experience of, of them? Dr. Ernest Gray (00:45:31):Yeah. Um, it's cuz you've got muscle memory hurt, um, over and over and over and over and over of sorts provides a muscle memory, a knee jerk, a kind of , Oh, this is familiar, here we go again. Ow. So I think that's one way, I'll, I'll step back now, but I think that, that it's the body that maintains a powerful memory of the feeling and it feels, and it's gonna be a familiar kind of triggering slash re-injury that until it's interrupted, can create, can see this as, um, broadly speaking, a a, a more, um, yeah, a reoccurring thing that is, that needs to be interrupted. TJ Poon(00:46:27):I'm really mindful of this in my relationships because there's a lot of horror from white people, from white women towards different communities. And so, like in my relationships, you, there's a, there's a mindfulness of like, maybe we have a disruption and at the level of me and this other person, it is a hurt, but it, it reinforces a harm that they've experienced or it feels like, um, feels similar to. And so it's not like we, I it's not like we opt, we can opt out. Like it can't opt out of that collective narrative. I can't say, Oh, well I'm just, you know, this one person. Um, so I, I think that is complex because the individual hurts do contribute. They feel like what Dr. Gray was saying, like it is muscle memory. It's some sometimes where something can feel or just reinforce, I guess, um, what has already happened to us in contexts. Jen Oyama Murphy (00:47:36):I mean, I think the complexity of the relationship between hurt and harm, um, contributes to how hard it can be to actually have meaningful repair. Because I, my experience sometimes, and I, I know I do this myself, that I will lean into the hurt and apologize or try to do repair on a personal one to one level and somehow feel like if I do that, it will also, it also repairs the harm. And that doesn't, that's, that's not true. I mean, it can perhaps contribute to a restorative process or a repair process around the harm, but Right. Just me, um, in charge of a small group repairing for a particular hurt that may have happened in the small group doesn't necessarily address the structure, the system that put that small group together, the content that's being taught, you know, the, the opportunity for those participants to even be in the program, Right. That there is something that's happening at a, at a harm level, um, that my personal apology for something that I did that hurt someone in the group isn't actually addressing. But we can hope that it does or act like it does or even have the expectation, um, that it will. And so the, I love the new, the nuance or the, the clarity between the two definitions that you guys are, um, asking us to wrestle with. I think that's, that's good's making me think just for myself. Like where do I go first, you know, out of my own, um, training or naivete or just like wishful thing, thinking that, that I can't repair systemic harm by apologizing or repairing like a personal hurt. Danielle (00:49:36):Um, I mean, Jen, I've been wrestling with that and, and when I, when I, in my experience, when someone apologizes to me, and I know they're apologizing for personal hurt, but I feel like they haven't said in, in, in a way I can understand often I'm not understanding how do I actually get out of this so we're not pitted against each other again. Mm-hmm. , when I feel trapped in that space and I receive an apology, I often, I, I feel more angry even at, even if I know the person sincerely apologizing, if I'm telling a more true story to you all as a Latinx person, and I've noticed this in my family, I receive the apology, and yet when I have to continue to function in the system, I am more angry afterwards. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. , there's a frustration that happens, which then of course is bottled down and it, I often talk to my clients about this, but I was talking to my husband about it. It's like we threw all this stuff in the pressure cooker cuz we do a lot of pressure cooking and put a plastic lid on it. And now the s h I t spread sideways. And that's kind of how it feels when we, now I'm not saying we can do this perfectly or I even know how to do it, but when we address hurt, that's part of systemic harm without addressing the system. I think in my experience, it feels like I'm feeling my own pressure cooker mm-hmm. and I'm not able to contain the spray at different times. Mm-hmm. . Dr. Ernest Gray (00:51:20):Yeah. I think I think about for, I think about for me, the, my, my the, you know, systemizing, systematizing the way in which I associate things, what the right environment, the way in which my, you know, my senses have associated things. I'll have dejavu because I had a certain smell from my childhood and it'll, it could be triggering, right? I smell something and I'm like, Oh man, that reminds me of this moment. All that categorization to me tells me how my brain functions and how mm-hmm. associative. Mm-hmm. , it is for instances, smells, places, um, things that occur. And it's, it's the, it's the ongoing sense of that, especially if we've come out of, um, houses or, um, families where this was it, it was normative for us to experience these things on a regular basis so that any, any hint of it elsewhere outside of that, outside of the confines of that can reignite that same kind of shallow breathing and response. And I don't wanna, um, but, but definitely the advancing of hurt versus harm. It, it, it, the harm the those in whatever that instance is that creates, that, that response outta me lets me know that more that it is, it was the ongoing nature of those things which created the harm. Um, and so it almost asks, I it's first acknowledgement and then secondly saying, What do I need to do to take care of myself in this instance? Where do I need to go? What do I need to give myself in this moment so that I'm not going down this road of, here we go again. I'm in a corner . I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna kind of check out. But, um, I think about the west side of Chicago where I'm ministering, um, and I'm thinking about, you know, just this community that it doesn't really affect them. It, it really doesn't to hear gunshots, to hear, um, to hear, uh, sirens and things like that. These are everyday occurrence so that the, so that the, so that the ongoing nature of what they're used to just has evolved into this kind of numbing sense. But I, but I guess in going back, it is interrupting that, that delicate, um, sequence of events so that it does not cause me to shut down in that moment that I've, that I'm still learning how to do for myself. Right. And I think that in our interpersonal relationships, especially, here's where it meets the road, is in our interpersonal, or even our most intimate relationships, the ongoing hurt and does eventually, uh, you know, cross the line into harm because it has taken away the energy out of that, out of the other person, uh, or or out of us. Um, after such a long time after repeated, repeated instances. Rebecca W. Walston (00:54:31):I, I think what I think I'm hearing everybody alludes this sense of like, can there be an awareness of, of the, where the interpersonal and the individual kind of collides with the collective and the systemic, right? And, and just a more complex understanding of how any incident, however big or small the rupture is. Where is the interplay of those two things? So, so that a comment between two people can actually have this impact that's far more and reverberates with the kind of generational familiarity that that all of a sudden, it, it, it, it, um, we're, we're out of the category. My feelings are hurt and into this space of it feels like something of in me has been violated. Um, and I think it takes a, an enormous amount of energy and awareness on the part of both people, both the person who perpetrated something and the person who was on the receiving end of that, to have a sense of like where they are and where they are and where the other person is to kind of know that and build all to hold it, um, with some integrity. There was a point in which we brought a group of people, uh, to, to view the equal justice initiative, um, landmarks in Montgomery, Alabama, and the conversation and a processing conversation between a white woman and a black woman. And, you know, after having come from the, the National Memorial and Peace and Justice and witnessing the history of lynching, understandably, this black woman was deeply angry, like profoundly angry, um, and trying to manage in the moment what that anger was and, and, and turned to the white participant and said like, I, like I'm really angry at you. Like, I kind of hate you right now. Mm-hmm. , um, two people who are virtually strangers. Right. And, and, and, and for the white woman to have said to her a sense of like, um, I get it. I got it. I'm, I'm white and I'm a woman.And there's a sense in which historically white women called this particular place in the lynching of black bodies mm-hmm. . Um, and also can, can I be in this room in the particularity of my individual story and know that I personally, Right. Um, don't, don't agree with that, stand against it, have not participated actively in it. Kind of a sense of like, you know, and it may have been an imperfect or, or generous engagement, but you can hear the tension of like, how can we both be in this room and hold the collective historical nature of this? And the particularity of the two individuals in the room together hadn't actually been the active participant interrupter. So Yeah. I think it's hard and messy. Danielle (00:57:51):I, I love what, uh, Rebecca wrote. There was, you know, been talking to me about do we imagine Shalom as a return to where we started? Cause the very nature of the disrupt disruption being we cannot return from Eden to the city of God. Um, and Rebecca, I'll let you elaborate on that a little bit more, but when we were talking Rebecca and I, you know, as a mixed race woman, and in those mixes, you know, is indigenous and Spanish and African, and, you know, just this mix, I'm like, where would I return to? Right? Mm-hmm. , what community does a Latinx person returned to? If, if it's a return to Eden, where is, is Eden lost? And so, um, yeah, Rebecca, I don't know if you wanna expand on what you were thinking. Rebecca W. Walston (00:58:43):Uh, I mean, I I've just been wrestling with this in particular, you know, we talk about individual hurt. It's easy to talk about like the disruption that happened in Eden, that what God meant for me individually, what you know, is reflected in the Garden of Eden. The kind of peace and the kind of generosity and the kind of, um, uh, just more that, that is in the Garden of Eden. And, but when I, when I try and so, so there's a depend in which I can step into this work and have this individual sense of like, Oh, you know, I wasn't meant for the fracture and my relationship between myself and my parents, Right? I was meant for something that was more whole than that. So how do I, how do I have a sense of what that was like in Eden, and how do I have a sense of going back to that kind of, that kind of space? But when I translate that into like collective work around racial trauma, I get lost like Danielle, right? In this, this sense that like, um, in, in her book, Born On the Water, um, the author sort of makes this argument that though these African people got on the ship at the beginning in Africa, while they made the journey across the Atlantic and before they landed in the United States, something happened on the water. And there's something in that hyphenated existence that created a new people group in, in a way that like, I can't actually go back to Africa. I like, I can't, I mean, I will go there and for half a second somebody might mistaken me for a, a colored person, right? And if you're inside Africa, that means I'm not fully African. I'm not fully white, I'm somewhere in the middle. But the second I open my mouth, they, they know I'm not African. I'm something else, right? And there's a sense in which I can't actually go back to Eden. There, there's something that happened in the rupture and the displacement that actually makes it impossible for me to return for that, right? And, and I still have that sense of being displaced in the hyphenated existence in the US that makes me, in some ways not fully American either. So what, what is the answer to that? And as I started to wrestle with that theologically, you know, I'm looking at the text going, actually, the, the journey for the Christian is not back to Eden . Like the end game is not back to Genesis, it's to revelation in the city of God. And so that's my sense of this comment is like, do do I pivot and start to imagine repair as not a return to Eden, but onto something else? And, and, and, um, you know, then I begin to suspect that, uh, that, that there's something even in the journey of, of that, that that is a far more value to me that I would want more than just the return to Eden. There's something sweeter having made it onto the city of God. So this is my wonderings. Curious how, how that hits for any of you. Dr. Ernest Gray (01:02:09):I think the, I think you're spot on. And I guess I, I guess it's a maturity mark that says that this continuum, this, this, um, I think you get to a certain and you just realize you never really arrive. And I think this fits within that same conceptual framework of like, you know, hey , you know, you, you could reach the pinnacle of your career. And, um, and yet, you know, it's still not be ultimately satisfying because it's like, is that it? You know, I think I'm on top of the mountain and I, and I guess that's the, that's inherent of human, of human of humanness for me is that I'm, I'm, I'm resigned to thinking about completion and absolute perfection. I'll be perfected when I meet Jesus. They'll be the more work for me to do or work in me to be done. But in the meantime, um, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be striving, blowing it, striving, um, gaining some, you know, gaining some, um, some skills and learning how to navigate better life and figuring out what works and doesn't work any, uh, as I go, as I age, as I, and hopefully in growing wisdom. Um, but I, I like this idea because there's a sense of, of jettisoning your experiences as though they're irrelevant. No, they're what brought me to this place and they're what's propelling me forward. Um, there's this sense of I might as well give them a hug and bring them with me on the journey, uh, because then they create a sense of meaning and value for me and for those of, uh, you know, for me, uh, as I'm, as I'm making my progress through, through life. So, so, so, um, that to me shows marks of, uh, a sense of maturity and, you know, some restore some restoration. I think, you know, and, and again, it comes down to like this sense of like, you know, the things that have value for us are can, can be worn. You know, Like, my son's got a got, you know, a favorite stuffed animal that is horrible. I wanna wash it every time I see it. You know, it's just like, we get rid of this thing. No, it's just, there's something about this particular stuffed animal that I just cannot part ways with. And so that's, that's kind of how we don't wanna get rid of our vinky or you know, our blanky, whatever it is. We got . Cause we love itself. , TJ Poon (01:04:53):I was really moved when I read this slide and listened to Rebecca and Danielle talking, I think, um, so I named my daughter Eden. And, you know, the, the meaning of pleasure, delight, just that, that the nature of what we were meant for. And in the end, we find it in the city full of people that look like us and not like us. And the image of that is represented there. And just kind of that shifting from like, our delight is found in this garden where it's just as in God, um, to our delight is in this city and, you know, the lamb of God is their light. All these different images that are really powerful and revolution, I think about that. Like that, that has meaningful too. Uh, just a shifting, um, where is our, where is our pleasure? Where is our delight? How do we come to experience that shaone? And who are the people that we experience that through? Dr. Ernest Gray (01:05:53):That's huge. And I, and I, yeah, and I, it's those people that are really part of that, you know, that space for us, that that really kind of helps us to, you know, experience the full, the sum, the full sum of what shalom means for us. I think that that's really important for us to really, for me especially to, to not shy away from that because I, I I, I, my ma my natural inclination would be to just be very isolated and monastic as opposed to engaged in community . But it's experienced in community and it's experienced together, and it's experienced with other shattered people too. Right. Um, and that to me is where I draw strength and energy and, um, you know, peace from as well. So, thank you, tj. I think yours mm-hmm. , I like what you share there. Danielle (01:06:57):I, I guess I would add like, to that, like, I think so much of my experience is being like in this very moment when I feel joy or maybe shalom or a sense of heaven, even in the moment, because unaware of what, I'm always not aware of what will come next. I don't know. Um, yeah. So just the feeling of heaven is in this moment too, with, you know, in the moment that I get to sit with the four of you, this is a piece of heaven for me, a reflection of hope and healing. Although we haven't even explored the ways we might have, you know, rubbed each other the wrong way. I have a sense that we could do that. And in that sense, that feels like heaven to me in spaces where there could, there are conflict. I'm not saying there isn't just a, just, I think in my own culture, the, that's why Sundays feel so good to me. For instance, when I'm with a couple of other families and we're eating and talking and laughing and, you know, the older kids are playing with the younger kids, like, to me, that feels, oh, that feels good. And, and if, if that was the last thing I felt, I would, that would feel like heaven to me. So I, I think there's also that, I'm not saying we're not going to the city of God, but there's just these momentary times when I feel very close to what I think it, it might mean. Mm-hmm. , Rebecca W. Walston (01:08:41):I, I do think, Danielle, I mean, I resonate with what you're saying. I think, I think the text is very clear that there are these moments, um, along the way. Right? I think that's that sense of, yay, do I walk through the valley of the shadow, Right? I, I will be with you. I, I think like wherever you are in the process, along the journey, the moments where you have a sense of, um, I am with you always. Right? And however that shows up for you in a faith, in a person, in a smile and an expression, in deed, whatever, however that shows up, it definitely, like, if I, I do have a sense of like, things we pick up along the way and, and a sense of final destination all being a part of the, the, the healing, the, like, the journey of repair. Um, and, and I start to think about, um, You know, the story of Joseph is a very significant one to me, has very reflected my own story, and then, then will know what that reference means, um, to me in particular by, you know, the, the sense in, in Joseph of like, what sad to meant for evil, God meant for good, right? And the sense of him naming his two sons, Manas and Efram, and one of them, meaning God has caused me to forget the toilet of my father's house. Um, and God has caused me to prosper in the land of my infliction is the meaning of the other son. And so I do think that there's, there's something in the text even that, that is about the journey and the destination being sweeter and holding something more, um, that than had our, our soul existence only been in Eden, Right? I mean, and, and that isn't to say like, I don't wish for that, you know what I mean? Or that I wouldn't love to be there, but, but I, but I mean like, leave it only to God to, to assert this idea that like, um, all of the rupture holds something more, um, that than life without any, without there ever being any sense of rupture. Right? And I think we're in the category of like, the mysteries of God by I, I think. I think so I think there's, there's such value in the journey in the valleys and what we pick up there about ourselves and God and people in it with us. Um, you know, Yeah. Like that, that feels aspirational to me and also feels true in some senses. You're muted, Ernest. I can't, can't hear you. So I said Dr. Ernest Gray (01:11:33):I was low, I was very low when I said that resonates. I, um, I was thinking about, um, you know, for me in the last few years, you know, Covid has done a, has done an, an immeasurable service in many ways. It has been incredibly harmful for a lot of us, but it's been a, it's done an immeasurable service at the same time, um, to reorient us. Um, for me it is increased my, depend my creaturely dependence on God in a way that here to four I would not have been focused upon. Right? I, you know, I spent 12, 13 years in the, in, in the classroom as a professor teaching, uh, on autopilot, um, from God's word, from, um, and teaching students how to study and think and what, what these words in the Bible say and what they could potentially mean, um, to the best of my ability. But that was autopilot stuff. And I felt insulated, if you will. But, but the repair and the why of the repair, why it's important, why, why the, um, the rupture is necessary, and we can call I, I, I would call covid and the time prior to, and subsequent to be very rupturing, I, I would call it as necessary, because it helped me to see my why and why dependence upon God had it be reframed, refocused, re you know, recalibrated so that I could not, so I could get out of a sense of, um, oh, my training prepared me for this to know my, you know, what I am and who I, what my journey has been, did not prepare me for this, and all the attendant features that have come as a result, the relationships that are broken and realizing that they were jacked up from a long , they were jacked up. I just couldn't see them during all those years. Um, but these remind me of the need for God to be embodied, uh, in my life in a way that, um, I had been maybe not as present with. And I think that that's part of the reason why, um, this is my re my why for repair, is that it creates a better, more relational dynamic between me and God that had I not gone through some rupturing event, I would not have appreciated the value of where I'm at with him now. More than that. I think one other thing is that I think that there's a sense too that there's a, um, there's a heightened awareness of all these other aspects that are coming, that are coming about. My eyes are now not as with, you know, blinders on. Now I can look around and say, Wow, this is a really jacked up place. Where can I help to affect some change? Where could I, you know, where can I put my stubborn ounces? Where can I place you know, who I am and what God has put in me, um, in the way so that I can, um, be a part so that I can help, you know, groups that are hurting, people that are hurting communities that are struggling, Um, and the, like, Jen Oyama Murphy (01:15:19):I'm trying to work this out. So I'm just working it out out loud for you all. But, um, I think kind of pi backing off of Rebecca, your, um, juxtaposition between Eden and City of God, and like, why for repair? I think for me, it's the invitation to both humility and hope. And, and for me, humility, um, often in my story and experience has led to what I felt like was humiliation, right? And the way that I learned culturally to avoid that was, um, to not need to repair, to do everything perfectly. To do everything well, to always get the a plus, you know, to, to not make a mistake where I would need to repair. But there's a desperation and hopelessness that comes with that kind of demand or pressure where, um, it's, it is dirty and painful, and it doesn't have that sense of like, Oh, there can be something of the goodness of God that can restore these parts that are dying or dead back to the land of the living. And, um, I think that the idea of that we're move, it's not binary. I'm not completely broken, and I'm not totally healed, and that there can be, um, hope and humility in making that journey. And if I'm able to make that journey with all kinds of different people, um, how much richer and deeper and broader that experience, that growing of humility, I think that can lead to growth and restoration and learning and healing. That just feeds into the hope, right? The hope that yes, I, I will reach the kingdom of God at the end, and there will be kind of the way that what we'll all be who we were meant to be. And there will be such goodness there, all that will continue to grow. Um, if I can stay kind of on that journey and not feel like, um, not give into the poll to be at one place or the other, you know, where I'm either totally broken and there's no hope or completely healed and there's no humility Dr. Ernest Gray (01:17:54):Sounds like a dash to me, a hyphen space, very much so that that hyphen space does so much, it preaches a better word, really does. Then the opposite ends of those two, those two realities are consum, consum, you know, conclusionary kind of places you wanna be. It's the hyphen that where we, where we ought to be. Rebecca W. Walston (01:18:25):Did you, is that word hyphen intentional? I Dr. Ernest Gray (01:18:31):Think so. I think so. It's the interim, well, we call hyphen the interim, you can call it all of that good stuff. Um, I, I think it's because, you know, whether, you know, whenever we, wherever we frequent a cemetery, we always think about how stoic it is to see the name and the date of birth and the date of death. And that hyphen is, that's what preaches the better word, is the hyphen in between what this person and how they went about their, their lives with their, their ups and downs, their navigation through the world for people like, um, people, for people who have been on the receiving end of, um, of trauma pain, um, and racialized, um, uh, this ambi or dis disor dis dis dis disorientation or trauma , we, we realize that they have a lot more weight to bear and that their experiences were far more complex. Um, and so this makes their stories even more winsome and more intriguing for us to learn and know about because we're, we're in relationship with them. Um, but the hyphen is the best place to be. And I find that in many ways, um, that is where real life occurs, and that's where I'm at right now. Um, as, as, as a matter of fact, Rebecca W. Walston (01:19:59):I, I mean, I've, I've heard that it has a very black sermon right there about the hyphen and the dash, right? But it hit me in particular because Danielle knows I often introduced myself as African hyphen American. So that your, that word hyphen hit me in that, in that context. Right. And as I was listening to Jen talk about humility and hope and how she, what she learned of how to settle into that space in her Japanese nest or her Japanese Hy American, I just, it just hit me, it hit me about the hyphenated racialized experience in the US and what you might be suggesting consciously or subconsciously Right. About that being a good place to be. Danielle (01:20:50):Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Jen, when you were talking, I was like, wanting to cry. I can still feel the tears. And I was just like, I felt the literal pull, I think at both end of that spectrum, when you talked through them for yourself, I was like, Oh, yeah, that's where I'm, Oh, wait a minute. Then you described the other end, and I was like, Oh, that's where I am . And I was, I think I was like, I was like, Oh, to sit in that, that interim space, you know, the hyphen space, sometimes I have felt like that space would kill me. Mm-hmm. the shame of not knowing how to be one or the other. Mm. Or to try to hold, or to try to explain to someone, you know, I, I think, what is your wife or repair, Why wouldn't I repair? I think of my own, you know, body. And, and, and when Rebecca's talked about not earnest, and, and you, I, I think like I have to be doing that internal work. I mean, because, you know, as you know, if you live in the body of the oppressor and the impressed , how do you make, how do, how do what repair has to be happening? It it, it's, it's happening. And, and if I'm fearful and wonderfully made, then God didn't make me like this on a mistake. It wasn't like, Oh, crap, that's how she came out. Let me see if I can fix it. Hmm. Um, indeed. So those are the things I was thinking as you were talking, Jen. Hmm. Rebecca W. Walston (01:22:47):I, I think Danielle, you're, you're in that sense on the slide of like, any version of repair must work towards the salvation and their redemption of the oppress, the oppress onlooker. Right. And that there has to be, we, we have to have a sense of categories for all of those things. Dr. Ernest Gray (01:23:10):And the work by each, I wonder, which, you know, I'm always trying to determine which one is gonna be the easier to repair, which, which person are you, the pressor or onlooker? And we would just assume that the onlooker would have the least amount of, but they might actually bear the biggest burden is because they're gonna have to deal with assumptions and biases that they have accumulated that are entrenched and that they don't wanna deal with and come to terms with. That's why it's easier to simply, you know, just lull their response or, or stay silent as the, as the notion below here says it's, it's easier to stay silent, to be, you know, resign, say it's not my issue than it is to get in and, and, and to really unearth whether or not this is actually something in internally that they're wrestling with that's far more scary to do. Um, and the majority of people might have some, this is a generalization, but it seems to me like the majority of people don't wanna really, really do that work, Danielle (01:24:19):Um, because all of us have been onlookers to one another's ethnic pain, whether we like it or not. I know I have absolutely. I've been an onlooker mm-hmm. , Yep. Mm-hmm. . Yep. And, and just, and then that's where you have where to step in is just like, Oh, that does not feel good. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. try to own that. My part in that, Dr. Ernest Gray (01:24:45):Ladies, it's almost a sense of a little bit of a reunion that I've had with you this afternoon, but I do need to go and pick up my two boys. And so for this part, I'm gonna need to jump off of the, um, of this, of this great time together, and hopefully I'll be invited back again so that my, um, so that we can, we can continue the conversation. Danielle (01:25:37):I will. Did you all have any final thoughts? TJ Poon (01:25:44):I've been noodling something since the very first slide, which is just like this distinction. I don't know if it's a useful one between disruption and rupture And how like rupture needs to be repaired, but a lot of times repair can't happen without sub disruption. And, you know, that first slide talks about how we kind of pathologized or like said negative anything that has to do with rupture, but you can't, like, you literally can't, um, repair without disrupting the systems. And I think in white imagination, those things are often made equivalent. Like anything that's disruptive is rupturing uncomfortable. Like, I need, I, I need to fix it as fast as possible. Um, versus no, actually this disruption is an invitation to something different. It's a disruption that actually will lead to an authentic repair or real repair as opposed to like, what calls dirty pain, like silence avoidance. Um, so I've just been thinking about those two different words and what they can mean. Mm-hmm. , Rebecca W. Walston (01:27:07):I like that distinction a lot. It, it feels almost like trying to get at like harm versus hurts, right? And, and try to have a sense of like, um, you know, are we always in the category of this is bad and awful and it needs to see immediately, Right. Or are there places where actually good and we need to let it play it itself out, So, yeah. Jen Oyama Murphy (01:27:35):Mm-hmm. Well, I think that also connects maybe fun too to Rebecca. You are, um, differentiating between like the demand to return to Eden or the like blessing of being on the journey to the city of God. Cause if the demand is to return to Eden, then anything disruptive is gonna feel, not like Eden, Right? But if, if it is about growing and learning and healing and developing on the road to the city of God, then disruption is part of that process, then it's something that may be hard, um, but it's necessary and hopeful or has the potential to be that. Rebecca W. Walston (01:28:22):Yeah. It, it does pivot something for me pretty significantly to be, to be talking about like the, my destination isn't actually Danielle (01:28:40):New ladies are really smart. can bottle all that up. I like that. TJ Poon (01:28:53):I mean, Jen, when you were like, I'm just working this out. And then you said something super deep and profound. I think what I was, what I was struck about what you said was like, um, just the demand to not ever need to repair like that internal pressure demand. And that's, that's how I feel all the time. Like, just, just be perfect and then you all need to repair mm-hmm. . Um, and just what, uh, yeah, just what a demand. What a, a burden. I don't, I don't know all the words, but like, it, it's dehumanizing cuz what it means to be human on this earth is to have disrupt, is to repair. Like you are going need to because we're all, we're all humans. And so there, when you said that, I was like, Oh, that's so important. Danielle (01:31:07):Because everything feels so lost. But I hope that this will be an encouragement to people about a conversation. Hopefully it'll feel like they can access something in themselves where.
Bios:Ernest Gray Jr. is the pastor of Keystone Baptist Church located in the West Garfield Park neighborhood of Chicago. He is a graduate of the Moody Bible Institute with a degree in Pastoral Ministries, and a graduate of Wheaton College with a Master's Degree in Biblical Exegesis. He completed his PhD coursework at McMaster Divinity College and is currently completing his thesis within the corpus of 1 Peter. Mr. Gray has taught in undergraduate school of Moody in the areas of Hermeneutics, first year Greek Grammar, General Epistles, the Gospel of John and Senior Seminar. It is Mr. Gray's hope to impact the African American church through scholarship. Teaching has been one way that God has blessed him to live this out. Ernest is also co-host of the newly released podcast Just Gospel with an emphasis upon reading today's social and racial injustices through a gospel lens. www.moodyradio.org Jen Oyama Murphy "My love of good stories led me to Yale University where I received a BA in English. Upon graduation, I felt called to bring individual stories into relationship with the Gospel Story, and I have worked in the areas of campus and church ministry, lay counseling, and pastoral care since 1989. Over the years, I sought a variety of ongoing education and training in the fields of psychology and theology, including graduate classes at The Seattle School of Theology & Psychology and Benedictine University. I also completed the Training Certificate and Externship programs at The Allender Center, and I previously held roles on their Training and Pastoral Care Team, as Manager of Leadership Development, and most recently as the Senior Director of The Allender Center. Believing that healing and growth happens in the context of relationship, I work collaboratively to create a safe coaching space of curiosity and kindness where honesty, care, desire, and imagination can grow. Using my experience and expertise in a trauma-informed, narrative-focused approach, I seek to help people live the story they were most meant for and heal from the ones they were not. I am passionate about personal support and development, particularly for leaders in nonprofit or ministry settings, including lay leaders who may not have a formal title or position. I'm especially committed to engaging the personal and collective stories of those who have felt invisible, marginalized, and oppressed. I love facilitating groups as well as working individually with people. I currently live in Chicago with my husband, and we have two adult daughters.Rebecca Wheeler Walston lives in Virginia, has completed Law School at UCLA, holds a Master's in Marriage and Family Counseling, is also a licensed minister. Specializing in advising non-profits and small businesses. Specialties: providing the legal underpinning for start-up nonprofits and small businesses, advising nonprofit boards, 501c3 compliance, creating and reviewing business contracts.TJ Poon serves with Epic Movement, where we both serve on the People & Culture Team (HR). TJ is the Director ofPeople & Culture and and also serves on Epic's leadership team to provide her leadership, wisdom, vision and direction for the ministry.Danielle:SO on screen and feel free to add to your introductions. Uh, Ernest, um, Dr. Gray is someone I'm met Yeah. Um, on screen during one of our cohort, um, virtual weekends and just listening to him talk, I think he was in the Caribbean when he was giving us the lecture mm-hmm. and talking about theology, and I was frantically taking notes and eventually resorted to screen shooting, like snapping pictures of the screen as he was talking. Uh, and then like quickly texting some friends and my husband to say, Hey, I was learning this that. And so that was kinda my introduction to Dr. Gray. And then we of course had a chance to meet in Montgomery. Um, yes, my respect just, uh, grew for you at that point. Um, the ability for you to be honest and be in your place of location Absolutely. And show up and show up to present, it felt like a theology that had life, and that feels different to me. So, um, thank Dr. Ernest Gray:Thank You for that. Thank you for that. No, I'm, it's a pleasure to join you all. I, I see some familiar faces and I'm excited to be with you all, and, um, yeah, I'm, um, yeah, I'm, I'm thankful that you thought me, um, thought my voice would be, uh, would be relevant for this conversation. So I'm, I'm grateful to be here and, um, yeah, I'm, I'm here to, um, to both participate and to, um, to learn as much as I can in this moment, so thank you. Danielle:Mm. You're welcome. Um, and then there's Rebecca Wheeler Walton who is the boss, and she's both smart and witty and funny and kind and extremely truthful in the most loving ways, and so have highest regard for her. Back when I answered the phone, Luis would be like, Is that Rebecca Yeah. Um, yeah, and tj, uh, TJ had gotten to know TJ over the last year and, um, you know, she's kind of introduced as like an admin person, but I've quickly learned that she, her heart and her wisdom are her strongest attributes and her ability just hang in the room in a tough conversation, um, has, I've just had an immense respect and hope for, for the future by, in getting to know ut j mm-hmm. touching. Yeah. And then at the top, y'all on my screen is Jen Oyama Murphy. She was my first facilitator at The Allender Center. Um, and she showed up in her body and her culture, and I was like, Man, that is freaking awesome. Um, and I wanna, I wanna do what she's doing with other people in this world. Um, Jen loved me and has loved me, and I don't think it can be overstated how wise and patient she is. Um, and just like when I say the word intuition, I mean it in a sense of like, deep wisdom. And, and that's, that's like, I keep searching. Like I wanna have access to that me. So, so thank you, Jen. Yeah. Jen Oyama Murphy :Hmm. Gosh. Thank you, Danielle. Thanks. Well, I'm, I feel very privileged to be a part of the conversation, so thanks for inviting me. Danielle:Yeah. So, I mean, I, Ernest you probably didn't get a chance to watch this clip, but it's this clip we're not gonna show. We talked about it. It's about, um, it's the border and there's like a three minute time, um, like timer for people to cross the border and hug each other and interact with one, one another on the southern border. And so there's like a tiny clip of this here. And, um, it's Latinx Heritage Month, and it felt really important to me to have a diverse conversation around repair, because Latin X is, um, Asian, it's black, white, it's European, it's white, it's indigenous. And I feel like, you know, in this conversation, what does repair look like for a Latinx person? And what, what does arriving, you know, to heaven mean, you know mm-hmm. Dr. Ernest Gray:Indeed. Danielle:So, yeah. So that's kind of where I'm coming from. And I have the slides up, but I, you know, I wanna hear your all thoughts on, on it, you know? Do you mind hitting the next slide, Tj? Dr. Ernest Gray:Very good. Danielle :Do you want me to keep moving? ? Yeah. Um, this is this guy that isn't red in, uh, Western psychology, although he was European descent and lived in El Salvador. He was murdered by, um, CIA operatives in El Salvador. And, uh, he was a liberation psychologist. And partly part of the reason he wasn't as well known here is because he gave almost all his lectures in Spanish on purpose. Hmm. Because he wanted to be rooted in a Latin American tradition. Um, and so I thought it was important to just lay the foundation for what rupture and repair means. He had a real vision for psychology to be a liberating movement, not just one that maintains like, Here, let me get you healed so you can function in this oppressive system. Like, um, yeah. Dr. Ernest Gray :You know, I think about that kind of, um, movement, which seems to me has always been very much so a part of, you know, this resilience, this resilience push amongst indigenous people, groups, communities. It, it, it is a, it is a sense to regain their, um, their humanity when they've been trampled on, when that humanity has been trampled on. And so there are different epox I think that I've seen as of recent, um, where we see that this has come to a head. You know, I'll never forget the, in the, the ministry of, um, Dr. Cera Na Padilla, um, who was, who just passed a couple of years ago. And, um, I was fortunate to have a class by him, but it was his eyeopening class, uh, a world Christian perspective that gave me the ability to, um, um, hear just how liber the gospel can be and how restorative to the humanity of people groups that have been trampled upon, uh, actually is. So I think that repair in many ways is just the, is just the acknowledgement that, hey, something in me is not right. And, um, it's not any one person. It feels as though this is a, um, this is the water in which I'm swimming, Like the water I'm in is like rotten. Um, and, and I wanna be rejuvenated through a, a water that, that refreshes and rejuvenates my life. Um, and that, that that water that it seems to be about is my aka the systemic kind of components that have trampled upon, um, indigenous groups. But that first step is acknowledgement, saying, Hey, um, something's broken in me. And it's not any one person. It's more of a system. It's more of the water in which I'm in. Um, that needs to be, uh, ameliorated. It needs to be, um, you know, I, I need it. It, I can't live like this. I can't, I can't, I can't live like this anymore. Um, I think as well, there's, there's a lot of things that I think are many, very much so, um, um, you know, kind of tied to this, this equilibrium. I think, um, when I, when I hear about these struggles and I hear about how people are trying to, um, go for at least make sure that they are, um, pursuing their inherent dignity and worth it, it, it shouldn't seem as though it, it's such a, um, a, um, there's so much resistance to that work. I mean, where, as human beings, we really want to be affirmed. We wanna be loved, we wanna be cherished, very, very basic things. Um, but to have, but to have resistance to that amongst systems also shows that we, we've got to pull together to be able to make a, uh, a concerted effort towards bringing back a type of, um, um, regenerative and healing kind of ethic to our communities that are shattered, that have been broken. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I personally see this right now as it relates to, you know, my community, which is African American, and I personally feel this, especially when I think about, um, people who are in survival mode and making bad choices. I always wanna pause and, and tell people, Listen, do not, don't, don't blame the victim. I mean, you're looking at William Ryan's book here as Right in front of me blaming the victim, Right. And I, I don't wanna, I don't wanna blame the victim because they don't, people don't wake up in the morning and think, you know, I wanna go out here and commit crime. I wanna do things I don't want, I don't wanna do these things just because I'm inherently, um, you know, um, malevolent person. No, I wanna do these things cause I'm, I'm trying to survive. And, and it, and there, that signals to me as well that there's something broken, uh, in the social order. And that these communities in particular, the most vulnerable ones, uh, shouldn't be subjected to so much, um, to, to these things, to, to where they have to resort to violence, crime, or, um, you know, pushing against laws, unjust laws, if you will, uh, that people see is, um, oppressive. Shouldn't we should demo dismantle the laws that, that create these things. So that was a very, Forgive my thought, forgive my, um, thought, thought there, but I, I just wanted to kind of think and, and draw out some, some, some broad strokes there. Jen Oyama Murphy:Yeah. I, I resonate with that a lot, Dr. Gray. I mean it, like, we've all been trained in kind of this narrative, um, therapeutic way of working with people. And so much of my experience has been looking at that story only as that story and not being able to look at it within a culture, within a system, and even within the context in which that story is being read. So if you are a person of culture in the group, you probably are at best, one of two in a group of eight mm-hmm. . And that has a story and a system all to itself. So even the process of engaging someone's story, even if you are mindful of their culture and the systemic story that that's in, you're also then in a, in a story that's being reenacted in, in and of itself, you know, that, um, I mean, Danielle and Rebecca know cuz they were in my group. Like, you, you have best are one of two. And even within that too, you're probably talking about two different cultures, two different systems. And so that sense of, um, having repair, healing feel really contained to not just your story, but then a dominant structure within where that healing is supposed to happen. Like, it's, it's the water. Most of us have swarm in all our life, so we don't even know right. Where the fish that's been in that water all the time. And so we don't even know that that's happening. And so when, when the healing process doesn't seem like it's actually working, at least for me, then I turn on myself, right? That there's something bad or wrong about me, that, that what seems to be working for everyone else in the room, it's not working for me. So I must be really bad or really broken. And it doesn't even kind of pass through my being of like, Oh, no, maybe there's a system that's bigger than all of us that's bad and broken. That needs to be addressed too. So I, I love what this cohort is trying to do in terms of really honoring the particular personal story, but also then moving out to all the different stories, all the different systems that are connected to that personal story. I'm, I'm grateful for that. And it's hard work, hard, hard, complicated work that it's full of conflict, Right. And math, and it's not gonna have five steps that you can follow and everything's gonna work out well for, for everyone. I mean, it's, it's gonna be a mess. You guys are brave. Dr. Ernest Gray:This final statement here about overthrowing the social order not to be considered as pathological. Um, you know, that, that, that last part there, uh, the conflicts generated by overthrowing the social order not to be considered pathological people. I mean, I think that there's a sense that people really don't want to have to resort to this language of overthrow if these systems were not malevolent from the very first place. Right. And, and I think about this, how, how the exchange of power has become such a, has created such a vacuum for, um, the most vulnerable groups to be, um, um, you know, maligned taken advantage of, pushed under the bus or where's eradicated, um, without, with, you know, with impunity. And I think about that, that there, there has to be, in many ways when we see the e the various, um, TIFs and the various, um, contests that arise around the, around the globe, there seems to be a common theme of oppressive oppression, power abuse, um, and then it's codified into laws that are saying, Well, you're gonna do this or else. And I guess that's, it's, it's almost as if there's a, a type of, um, expectation that this is, this is the only means that which we have to overthrow social orders that need to be, um, uh, eradicate need to be done away with. So, so there's, there's a lot of truth to this, this, this, this last part especially as well. Um, but I, I think that's what we see, um, constantly. One of the things that's popping in my mind right now is the ACON in South Africa. Um, and they're, they're dominant, The Dutch domination of South Africa and the indigenous group there, the, the South Africans, um, of af of, of, um, of black descent and how their struggles have ha have, you know, just constantly been, um, you know, so, so, so rife with tension and there's still tension there. And so it just takes on a different form. I, I think that there's a lot of things that we can learn from the various contests, but we might, when we strip away layers of the onion, we might find that a lot of it is the way in which this power dynamic and power exchange, or lack thereof, is actually going on. Um, and again, we can call that what we want to, we can say it's Marxist. We can say it's, um, you know, um, critical, but critical theory helps us to, helps us with some of this to see in which power way in which power is leveraged and the abuse of it. Lots of it. Rebecca W. Walston :I mean, I think, um, Ernest, if I can call you back if I've earned right quite yet, maybe not . Oh, You got that right . Um, I, you know, I think what, what what hits me about your statement is, is, is the sense that, um, that there's that power and a sense of overthrow inextricably tied together in ways that I, I don't think they should be, I do not think that they were meant to be. Um, and I, it, it makes me think of a conversation that I had with the Native American, uh, uh, um, friend. And we were, we were together in a group of, um, diverse people watching, um, a documentary about a group of multi-ethnic, a multi-ethnic group engaging around race and racism. And we were watching the, um, this group of people sort of engage about it. And, um, I was, by the time the thing was over, like I was full on like angry, all kinds of things activated in me a around the Black American experience. And I turned to this Native American guy sitting next to me, and, and I said, I'd like to know from you, what is your version of 40 acres in a mule? A and, and I said, you know, in, in my community, like, we have a thing about 40 acres in a mule, that kind of encapsulates a, a, a sense of what was taken from us as, as enslaved Africans, and some sense of what it means to, to start to repair that breach, right? And, and to give some sense of restitution. And it's codified in this sense of 40 acres and mule given to freed, uh, newly freed Africans as, as a way to, to launch into a sense of free existence. And I said to him, If I were you, I'd be like, pissed. Yeah. I, as an indigenous man, like, I'd want all of my stuff back, all of it, all of the land, everything. Like all the people, everything, everything. And so, I'd like to know from you, what is your version of 40 acres in the mill? What's your measurement of what it would look like to start to, to repair and to return to indigenous people? What was taken from them? Hmm. And this man looked me dead in my face and said, We, we have no equivalent because the land belongs to no one. It was merely ours to steward, so I would never ask for it back. Dr. Ernest Gray:Wow. Floored. Mm-hmm. Rebecca W. Walston:A and I'm still by that it's been maybe six, seven years. And I've never forgotten that sentiment and the sense that, um, I, I wanted to sit at his feet and learn and not ask more questions. I just, and just the sense of like, what could my people learn from the indigenous community and how might it allow us to breathe a little deeper and move a little freer it? And so I, you know, I hope you guys can hear that as not like a ding against my community and what we're asking for, but just a sense of for how another people group steps into this question of rupture and repair that is radically different from, from my experience, and causes me to pause and wonder what must they know of the kingdom of God that would allow them to hold that kind of, that kind of sacred space that feels unfamiliar to me, Dr. Ernest Gray:That is quite revolutionary. And if are representative of this type of, and again, those are just, those are just the terms we use to, to talk about repair and, um, and re restoration. I wonder if the, if see what I, what I'm struggling with is that what we are, what we wrestled through as an African American context was, and the vestiges is of, um, ownership. It's ownership and, um, ownership of bodies and ownership of land. And the indi, the aboriginal people of America, the Native Americans, they have this really robust sense of it belong. If that's the case that belongs to no one, my next question would be then, and again, if I'm thinking about ownership, well, that it's the damning sense of what ownership did to their communities, how they were decimated, how they were ransacked, how, how, um, you know, the substance abuse has ran rampant. So if from, if it were me, I would ask a follow up question to this individual and ask why. Well then if the land is not an issue and it's not a, it's not a monetary thing that needs to be repaired, what about the damage? How will we go about putting a value upon or putting some type of thing upon the decimation of, of communities, the, um, the homes. Let's take, you know, Canada is r in pain, especially with the Catholic church and what was done in certain orphanages. Okay. And so, um, if not a monetary thing, what would be the re another response to repair the brokenness that the people have experienced? And I, and I, I don't, I understand the land is one thing, but there's also a people that have been shattered absolutely, absolutely shattered. And, and I think that still remains a question for me. And again, it's a perennial question that is affecting multiple communities. Um, but these are felt more acutely, especially as, um, you know, Africans, uh, in the transatlantic route. And, and, and aboriginal native Americans who were, who are, um, you know, no one discovered them here. But this ownership piece is something that I think is what is inherent to whiteness, and it has created this vacuum. And why we need to have a sense of, um, you know, how it impacts every single debate. Every single debate. I would go down a rabbit trail about, you know, gospel studies and New Testament studies, but that's just, it's all, it's there too. It's, it's right there, too. Danielle:TJ, can you hit the next slide? I think we're into that next slide, but I think what I'm hearing, and then maybe Jen has a, a follow up to this, is, I, I think part of my response from the Latinx community is we're both perpetually hospitable and perpetually the guest. Mm. Mm-hmm. We don't own the house. Mm. And we, and yet there's a demand of our hospitality in a house that's not ours. Mm. And there's a sense of, I think that comes back to the original cultures that we come from, of this idea that you showed up here, let me give you food. Let me, let me have you in, let me invite you in. And in the meantime, you took my, you took my space and, and you put a, you put a stake in it that said, Now this is mine and you're my guest. And now there's different rules, and I may be polite to you, but that does not equal hospitality. Right. And so, and I don't know, I don't have the resolution for that, but just this feeling that, that Latinx communities are often very mi migratory. Like, and, you know, we have, then you get into the issue of the border and everything else. But this idea that we, we don't own the house, and yet there's a, there's an, there's a demand for our hospitality wherever we go. Rebecca W. Walston:What's your sense, Danielle, cuz you said, um, both there's a demand on the hospitality and also something of that hospitality hearkening back to your indigenous culture from Right. In the place where you're not a guest, you're actually at home. So is that a both and for you Danielle:Mm-hmm. , because I think that's the part that's, that's robbed the meaning, The meaning that's made out of it is robbed. I think sometimes the hospitality is freely given. And, and that's a space where I think particularly dominant culture recognizes that. Right. And so there's, there's the ability to take, and then, then there's the complicity of giving even when you don't want to. And also like, then how does a, and this is very broad, right? And the diaspora, right? But the sense of like, the demand, if you don't give your hospitality then at any point, because you're the perpetual guest, they can shut you out and you can never return. So I haven't quite worked that through, but those are some thoughts I was having as you all were speaking. Dr. Ernest Gray:Mm. I think that's, I think that's very keen, uh, you know, as a keen observation, my wife is, you know, from a Caribbean context, and so there's the hospitality notion wherein it's, I mean, that's just, it's irrespective of what you feel. This is just what you do. And so I think that it's, when it's taken advantage of or hoisted upon people in a way that is saying, Oh, you must do this, that harm can enue. But, um, there's a, there's a, for me, it's, it's, it's really, really foreign to, from the outside looking in to understand how that culture, um, has, um, historically genuflected or just kind of, um, it can become a part of weakness. It can become a part, or it can be become abused. Especially when this is an expectation of the culture. Um, and I think that's where the harm lies, is that there, there has to be some measures of, of like, When conditions are, are, you know, almost in a sense of like, this isn't automatic. And it, and then there needs to be some kind of, some kind of ways in which it can remain protected. So that's to not be abused by those who know that this is an expectation of the community. Um, but yeah, that's, that's from the outside looking in, it's hard. My only connection is through, you know, my wife and her culture and seeing how that is, you know, I don't care what's going on inside. You know, you're gonna, you're gonna be hospital, You're gonna host, you're gonna continue to be, you're gonna reach out. You're gonna continue to be that person because that's what's expected of you. Jen Oyama Murphy:I mean, Danielle as a Japanese American. I mean, I feel that bind of, I mean, it's not even perpetual guest for, I think Asians often. It feels like perpetual alien. Um, and, and yet, you know, there are cultural expectations and norms, you know, among the Japanese, around what it looks like to welcome someone into your home, what it means to be gracious and deferential, and that, So there's a whole culture that's, um, informing of a way, a style of relating that I think to Dr. Gray's point can be taken advantage of. Um, and can, I think be in some ways, consciously or unconsciously used by, um, that culture to kind of escape wrestling with the experience of, of marginalization and abuse and trauma. Because there's a culture that can give you some sense of safety and containment and soothing. If you go back to what, you know, um, culturally, I mean, after the internment camps, the incarceration of the Japanese during World War ii, that's exactly like what happened is the, the idea of, you know, being polite, being deferential, working hard, using productivity as a way to gain status and safety, and in some ways, right, taking the bait to, to be, to like out white, white people. We're gonna be better citizen than the white people. And like, what that cost the Japanese Americans who, if you had asked them what kind of repair did they want, they would say none. We're just so grateful to be able to be in this country. It, you know, the, the grandchildren of the people that were incarcerated that kind of ly rose up and said like, This is wrong. And so it's just, it, it feels so complicated and like such a, such a math, um, in it. And that's where I feel like, um, learning not just the, the white Asian story, right? But having exposure and experiences and relationships with, um, a variety of different ethnicities and being able to learn from their histories, their culture, their way of, um, engaging trauma, working through a healing process, and not staying in a single lane in my culture only anymore than I wanna stay in a single white Western culture only. But being really open to learning, growing. I mean, my experience with you, Danielle, and you, Rebecca, even in my group, right, opened me up to a whole different way of engaging story and working with the, um, methodology that we had been learning. And I'm so grateful I wouldn't have had to wrestle or contend with any of that if I hadn't been in relationship with both of you who have a different culture than I do, and a different style relating and a different way of responding to things than I do. That was so informative for me in broad slu, um, opportunity to really first own that there is a rupture, and then what it looks, what it could look like to repair. And that I didn't only have two, two options like my Japanese American way or the, the White Western way that I had learned all my life. Rebecca W. Walston:I resonate with that, Jen. I think that, um, what comes to my mind is the sense of Revelation seven, nine, um, and at the throne of grace at the end of this, that identifying monikers every tribe and every tongue mm-hmm. . And, and it causes me to wonder why that moniker, why is it that the identification that the throne of grace is tribe and come. Right? And, and I think it hints at what you just said, this sense of like, there's a way in which this kind of hospitality shows up in each culture, um, in, in a way that I think each culture holds its own way of reflecting that text, um, in a way that is unique, um, in the sense that we won't have a full and complete picture of hospitality until we have a sense of how it shows up in every tribe and every time. Um, and, and so I love that that image from you of like, what can I learn from, from you as a Japanese American, and what can I learn from Danielle? What can I learn from tj? What can I learn from Ernest and, and how they, they understand, uh, and embody that with, with the sense of like, my picture will be a little bit clearer, a little bit more complete for having, having listened and learned. And I, I do think we're talking in terms of hospitality about sort of, to me, the connective tissue between a erector and a repair is really a sense of resiliency. And, and it feels to me a little bit like the, there's a way where we can talk about hospitality that is really about, um, something of a God given capacity to navigate a rupture, whether it's individual or collective in a, in a way that allows for hopes, for pushes, for some sense of repair. And, you know, I was listening to Ernest talking, you know, I feel like I can hear Michelle Obama saying, when they go low, we go high. Right? And that is a, that is, it's a, it's a different kind of hospitality, but it feels like, feels like hospitality than the infant, right? It, it feels like I won't give in, um, to, to this invitation to join the chaos. I, I, I will, um, be mindful and thoughtful and intentional about how I move through it so that I don't find myself, uh, joining joining in it, but actually standing against it. And that, that feels very hospitable to me. To, to stand on the side of what is true and right. And honoring and, and, and not not joining the fray. Danielle:You can see how our collective ruptures that we've all described, and I know TJ, you haven't spoken yet, um, how our trauma rubs up against one another and likely is in a heated moment, is very triggering. If I'm in a, if Jen and I are in a space where we feel like we have to stay, keep our heads low, because let's say I have a family member, um, who's undocumented, right? Or Jen has a memory of, I don't know, a traumatic experience dealing with dominant culture. And we're with, you know, like you say Rebecca, like our African hyphen American friends, and they're like, Come on, let's go get it. Mm-hmm. , you can feel the rub of what repair might look like, and then there's a fracture between us. Mm-hmm. . If we don't, that's, I mean, and then the hard thing that I've been challenged lately to try to do is stay really close to my experience so I have a sense of self so that I can bring that full self to you and say like, I feel this way, and then I can more, more be able to listen to you if I can express a more truer sense of what I'm feeling. Does that make sense? Dr. Ernest Gray:Perfect. I think, I think, um, yeah, I, I, I think about the triggering aspects of how we have been collectively kind of retraumatized. You know, when you think about, you know, this since Trayvon Martin and and beyond here in America with African American context, we've just been trying to figure out how to stay alive and t-shirts keep printing regarding, um, you know, can't go to, can't go to church, can't go to a park, can't do this, can't do that, can't breathe. And it's almost as if it's, it's exhausting. Um, but it's entering into that space with other groups, other communities that creates a sense of solidarity, which is sorely needed. Because we would assume, and we would make this as this assumption, like, Oh, well, you don't have it so bad. That's not true. It looks different. It feels different. And until we can, at the same time, um, I like what you said about own, what we are feeling while we are in that moment, it allows us to at least get it out there so that we can then be active engagers with others and not just have our own stuff, you know, uh, for stalling, any meaningful connection. I wanna think that there's a sense that, um, because, you know, our expressions in every way, whether it's hospitality or whether it's in the way in which we deal with, um, the various cultural phenomenons that we're closely associated with, is that these create the mosaic. If we, back to Rebecca's idea of Revelation seven, nine, these re these is why I love mosaics is because the full picture of our, um, similar, similarly expressed experiences do not look the same, but when they're all put together, eventually we'll see the, the picture more fully. And I think that that's the key is that it, it's so easy for us to be myopic in a way in which we look at everyone else's, or especially our own, to where we can't see anybody else's. That that creates this isolation, insular kind of isolation idea of, Well, you don't have it as bad as I do. Or they're not as, they're not as shaken as this community or that community or this community. Um, and wherein there's some truth to that, Um, if we're going to regain a sense of human, our full humanity, we've gotta figure out ways to, to do that active listing so that our ours doesn't become the loudest in the room.
Welcome back to the Spirit of Hagyard! Join us for our second episode as Hagyard field care veterinarian, Dr. Caitlin Fletcher, and student opportunities program coordinator, Dani Clem, sit down to discuss everything you want to know about externships at Hagyard!
In this HCI Podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Matt Wilkerson about the benefits of externship programs for the student and for organizations. See the video here: https://youtu.be/0MhTslAtMGM. Matt Wilkerson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwilkerson/) is the Co-founder & CEO of Paragon One which scales real work and experiential learning between companies, schools, and students. The company's flagship product, Remote Externships, are an alternative to internships that provide students with more access, flexibility, and credentialing opportunities so that they can build their resume while developing fundamental skills that employers seek. Matt holds both a B.S. degree in Computer Science & Engineering and a B.S. in Management Science from the MIT. Please consider supporting the podcast on Patreon and leaving a review wherever you listen to your podcasts! Check out BetterHelp.com/HCI to explore plans and options! Go to cardiotabs.com/innovations and use code innovations to get a free Mental Health Pack featuring Cardiotabs Omega-3 Lemon Minis and Curcumin when you sign up for a subscription. Check out Zapier.com/HCI to explore their business automations! Check out the HCI Academy: Courses, Micro-Credentials, and Certificates to Upskill and Reskill for the Future of Work! Check out the LinkedIn Alchemizing Human Capital Newsletter. Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Future Leader. Check out Dr. Westover's book, 'Bluer than Indigo' Leadership. Check out Dr. Westover's book, The Alchemy of Truly Remarkable Leadership. Check out the latest issue of the Human Capital Leadership magazine. Ranked #5 Workplace Podcast Ranked #6 Performance Management Podcast Ranked #7 HR Podcast Ranked #12 Talent Management Podcast Ranked in the Top 20 Personal Development and Self-Improvement Podcasts Ranked in the Top 30 Leadership Podcasts Each HCI Podcast episode (Program, ID No. 592296) has been approved for 0.50 HR (General) recertification credit hours toward aPHR™, aPHRi™, PHR®, PHRca®, SPHR®, GPHR®, PHRi™ and SPHRi™ recertification through HR Certification Institute® (HRCI®). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
When they're not using their athletic powers on the field, NFL players, like today's guest, are finding ways to serve as superheroes for their communities. This week, we are joined by Michael Thomas, a fellow Stanford graduate and one of the NFL Player Association's most active players, both on and off the field, having played with the San Francisco 49ers, the Miami Dolphins, the New York Giants, the Houston Texans, and the Cincinnati Bengals over the course of his decade-long career. Throughout his time with the NFL, Mike has always been an active community member, creating the Big Plays for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Miami, being named NFLPA Community MVP in both 2015 and 2016 for his youth mentorship initiatives, and hosting ‘Camp Mike T' to expose kids to unique opportunities for financial literacy and college prep programs. He also formed part in the NFLPA's 2018 and 2019 Externship classes, during which he worked closely with Representative Sheila Jackson Lee to learn more about the political process on Capitol Hill. Tuning in, you'll gain some insight into the journey behind Mike's many accomplishments and find out how he learned to use his own social justice activism to turn his protest into policy. We also touch on how he struggled academically before he learned to ask for help, the challenges he had to overcome in order to realize his dream of playing in the NFL, and the importance of having faith in yourself, as well as how he earned his reputation as one of the best Special Teams players in the NFL, plus so much more! Today's episode is No Straight Path's version of an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary with Mike Thomas, jam-packed with valuable lessons that you can apply in your own life. Be sure not to miss it (and stay tuned for Part 2)! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Michael Thomas on LinkedIn Michael Thomas on Twitter Michael Thomas Aldine Sports Association Camp Mike T Cincinnati Bengals Ashley Menzies Babatunde Ashley Menzies Babatunde on Instagram
The Maine Licensed Denturist Association June 10 - 11 (https://mainelda.com/) National Denturist Association October 12 - 14 (https://nationaldenturist.com/) We've had many Denturists on the podcast in the past. It's a great career path for dental technicians looking for the next step. Unfortunately, Denturism is not legal in many states. Luckily for the residents of Maine, Denturism is legal there. We are joined again by multi-episode guest, Patrick Allen. Patrick is a Denturist in at Central Maine Denture (https://centralmainedenture.com/) and he has invited two other Denturist from Maine to join us for the conversation. Austin Carbone learned dental technology in the Navy. Moving to Canada and finding Denturism, Austin has been educating the population and being the part of many boards to bring awareness to the profession. Getting closer to retirement, Austin brought on Ashley Soucy to Jetport Denture Center (https://www.jetportdenturecenter.com/) to carry on the practice. Ashley, a recent graduate of The American Denturist School, is part of the new generation of Denturist that is getting involved to continue the fight for legalization of this much needed profession. The fastest growing product at Gro3X (https://www.gro3x.com/) are the Gro3X Aligners. Gro3X Aligners are only available from Gro3X Aligner certified labs: Why? Because they believe in the synergies that are being created between you, the dental office, and your lab. And they want to further leverage these synergies. Their aligners are used as a pre-treatment to a larger restorative esthetic case, to widen gaps prior to placing implants, to close a diastema, ease crowding, and simply enhance your patient's smiles. Even for your Essix retainer needs your Gro3X aligner certified lab can help. Look for a Gro3X Aligner certified lab near you, such as Castle Dental Lab (http://www.castlelab.com/) in San Antonio, TX (ask for Blaine), AMK Dental Lab (https://www.amkdentallaboratory.com/) in O'Neill, NE (ask for Anne), Staggs Dental Lab (https://www.facebook.com/staggsdental) in McCoole Maryland (ask for Derrick), AA Dental Design (https://www.aadentaldesign.com/) in Murrieta, CA (ask for Frankie), and many, many more… For a complete listing of Gro3X Aligner Certified Labs go to www.gro3x.com Whip Mix's outstanding VeriEKO LCD 3D Printer (https://www.whipmix.com/products/whip-mix-verieko-dental-3d-printer/) delivers fast print speed and exceptional accuracy, due to its 95% LED light uniformity. Print temporary and permanent crowns and bridges, models and dies, surgical guides, splints, custom trays, and even dentures with Whip Mix's VeriModel OS, VeriGuide OS, KeySplint Soft, Dentca Denture, Dentca Temporary Crown & Bridge, Bego VarseoSmile Crown plus, Bego VarseoSmile Temp, VeriCast OS, and VeriTray resins (https://www.whipmix.com/product-overview/?product-cat=3d-print-resins). VeriEKO, with its 120 X 80mm print plate, is ready to prove its printing power right out of the box with 54 calibrated LEDs for curing consistency, ultra-accurate and smooth prints with its 49 micron pixel-size, and an easy-to-use touchscreen. If you're looking for a compact, fast and accurate 3D printer, call (800) 626-5651, or visit whipmix.com for more information or to order the Whip Mix VeriEKO 3D printer.### If you're looking for a compact, fast and accurate 3D printer, call (800) 626-5651, or visit whipmix.com for more information or to order the Whip Mix VeriEKO 3D printer. Special Guests: Ashley Soucy CDA, LD, Austin CarboneB.SC, B.ED, LD, and Patrick Allen, LD.
In this podcast, we talk with Chad Duncan, PhD, CRC, CPO, chair of the new Orthotics and Prosthetics (O&P) Program at Salus University. With a fall 2022 program launch date, he talks to us about what the program will be like and what students will get out of it.For more information about the Orthotics and Prosthetics program at Salus, you can visit salus.edu/OPTo learn more about our podcast series, visit salus.edu/podcasts
This week I'm speaking at Military Money Conference near Raleigh, NC. It's the biggest gathering of the military and money community ever. If you've ever thought about a career in the personal finance field, this conference is for you. Attendees can expect inspiration and actionable advice and connecting within the personal finance community. Here's all the information https://milmoneycon.com/register/ Today I'll talk about some of the different career options related to personal finance. First, personal financial planning and Certified Financial Planner (CFP) designation. https://www.cfp.net/why-cfp-certification/why-get-certified CFP's meet with clients to explore what's important to them and create holistic financial plans to meet their unique financial dreams and challenges. CFPs provide advice in a wide range of specialties, like budgeting, planning for transitions, paying for college and retirement, managing risk, taxes, investing, and what ifs like disability or premature death. If you enjoy helping people in a very comprehensive way, this path may be for you. Learn more at The Military Financial Advisors Association (MFAA) which is a nonprofit of independent financial planning experts that specialize in military and veteran families. And we're on a mission to help service members, spouses, and veterans get started in the profession. Check out and the Military to Financial Planner podcastLearn more at the Financial Planning Association (FPA). If you'd like real taste sign up for the FPA Externship https://fpaexternship.org which this year June - July. You get to peek behind the curtain and see over 25 firms and experts at work, and do the work yourself. No experience necessary and all are welcome. It's totally virtual and if you miss a session live, it's recorded. If you are interested in helping people in their financial lives but don't know what that even looks like this will be the best $250 you've ever spent. If you like educating and counseling check out the Association for Financial Counseling & Planning Education® (AFCPE®) It believes in empowering all people to achieve lasting financial well-being through the highest standards of financial counseling, coaching, and education. Their Accredited Financial Counselor (AFC) designation delves into financial issues relevant for lower and middle-class Americans, like managing credit cards and debt, budgeting, and managing cash flows. For military spouses, this can be a great way to enter the personal finance field, find volunteer and PAID opportunities. AFCPE also offers special pricing for military spouses.Like people, but love numbers and rules? You might excel as a tax preparer and become an Enrolled Agent (EA). An enrolled agent is a person who can represent taxpayers before the IRS after passing a test covering individual and business tax returns. You could start your own tax return preparation service or work for another preparer. There's volunteer work like the IRS Volunteer Income Tax Assistant (VITA) Program provides free income tax preparation for servicemembers and lower income Americans. There's paid work with commercial tax preparation companies like H&R Block which also provide entry level training, often for free. If you have questions and would like to know more, don't hesitate to reach out. This field is really breaking open opportunities for new faces in different places. Come join the party.
This episode is specifically for students about to start their 4th year externships. I discuss some personal experiences and 3 major things you can do to have a more successful externship year. Good luck everyone! Feel free to reach out to me on IG @ droexeman or email me at droexeman@gmail.com if you have any questions - I will try and help anyway I can. Welcome to She's a DPM. A podcast for women to share their experiences, knowledge, and insights on cultivating a life in, and outside, the field of Podiatric Medicine and Surgery.Contact me if there is a topic you'd like to hear more about, or if you know a kick ass Lady DPM who should be interviewed.Email: DrOexeman@gmail.com Instagram: @droexeman
Poem Incident at the Oscars. Psalm 116:2 [NLT] "Because he bends down to listen, I will pray as long as I have breath!Connect with Susan on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/susanhcunningham/Or find her online at: https://www.susan-cunningham.com/Susan is listening to: Kate Bowler's Podcast Everything HappensBrené Brown's Unlocking Us Podcast and Dare to Lead Podcasta podcast on griefSusan is reading:Mitch Albom's Stranger in the LifeboatRobert Johnson's Inner WorkLouise Glück's The Wild IrisSister Wendy Beckett's Meditations on SilenceSusan is inspired by: PoetryWalks through grape vineyards and almond orchards where she can witness the blooms announcing life.
today we're having a lovely little vent session and discussing the toxic things that surround us at work and school. We're covering the nagging need to compare ourselves, the sinking feelings of self doubt, GUNNERS WITH A G and my thoughts on gunners, and the other G word guilt! Plus this episode includes our collective weekly horoscope in the Hot Girl Huddle, where I'm going for externship and the drama that ensued, and I added in your favorite stories about crying in school. Buckle up it's about to get good! IG: https://www.instagram.com/drconniewang Music: Good Life, Eneko Artola --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
“An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.” Benjamin FranklinAABP Executive Director Dr. Fred Gingrich is joined by two student AABP members who received externship grants and visited beef practices in the U.S. and Canada. Hannah Jarvis, a 4th year student at The Ohio State University, and Tatie High, a 2nd year student at The Ohio State University, discuss the importance of this funding for student externships and the experiences they had at AABP member practices. The AABP Foundation provides $40,000 per year for student externship grants to offset the financial barriers of participating in externships. Both Hannah and Tatie discuss where they went on their beef externships and what they learned while they were at those practices. They discuss that externships help them to apply boots on the ground experiences with the educational foundation they have been provided in veterinary school. Both students express that they want hands-on learning at their externships and learning through repetition. Hannah and Katie recommend that students be honest with veterinarians about what they want out of the externship and to confront the uncomfortable and not be afraid to try while on your externship. Tips for veterinarians include being willing to teach and engage students, make use of the “windshield time”, give advice, provide practical tips, and encourage students to try while offering support. AABP student members can apply for externships at this link under the Student Menu of the AABP website. AABP encourages members to list their externship opportunities on the AABP website so that students can find opportunities by going to this page. Please support the AABP Foundation which provides externship and education grants as well as clinically relevant cattle research and welfare grants. If you would like to restrict your donation to externship grants, please contact fred@aabp.org for information. You can donate to the AABP Foundation at this link. If you have a suggestion for a future podcast, email haveyouherd@aabp.org.
Do you find yourself giving great advice and being generous, supportive, and understanding with others? "You did a great job with that! How are you going to celebrate?" "We all have those days. Nothing is wrong with you." "Everyone needs a break. I'm in support of you getting rested." But then when a situation presents itself to apply that same advice to yourself, you don't take it - resting, celebrating, forgiving. None of that applies to you because you don't deserve it or your situation is so different, right?Our guest today explains why we do this to ourselves and how to think about it a different way, so that we can gift ourselves that same love and care that we so freely give to others. Dr. Rebekah Tennyson is a Clinical Psychologist with a degree in Social and Political Sciences from the University of Cambridge and a doctorate in Clinical Psychology from the University of Oxford. She's co-host of a Drop in the Bucket podcast, a trained Enneagram coach with Enneagram University, has completed an Externship in Emotion Focused Therapy, and other training courses in Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy/DNA-V, Dialectical Behavioural Therapy skills, and Narrative Exposure Therapy. And in this episode, she's also joining us as an Enneagram Type 2 wing 1. As someone who's spent years studying human behavior, it's such a treat to hear her insight on the Enneagram in general, and how she specifically experiences life and work as a Type 2. You'll also hear: How she's folding in her Enneagram work outside of her day job What it looks like when her Type 8 Stress Arrow shows upWhat she's learned about her Type 4 Growth Arrow How she uses the Enneagram with couples and a key phrase she always starts with What the repressed Center of Intelligence (head, heart, body) can tell us about the disconnect we have with someone elseThe most creative and fun way to use the Enneagram for authors or anyone interested in creating fictional characters Her best advice when making a career change Connect with Rebekah on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enneagrampsych/ Learn more about her couples therapy:https://www.enneagrampsychology.co.uk/Listen to her podcast, A Drop in the Bucket: https://dropinthebucket.buzzsprout.com/Find out more about the Coaching Certification with Enneagram University: https://enneagrammba.com/euDownload your quick reference Enneagram guide: https://www.enneagrammba.com/cheatsheet
“We cannot always build the future for our youth, but we can build our youth for the future.” Franklin D. Roosevelt AABP Executive Director Dr. Fred Gingrich is joined by two student AABP members who received externship grants and went to western U.S. dairy practices for their experiences. Phusita Nakphairat Davidovich, a 3rd year student at The Ohio State University, and Gabrielle Brewster, a 4th year student at Cornell University, discuss the importance of this funding for student externships. The AABP Foundation provides $40,000 per year for student externship grants to offset the financial barriers of participating in externships. Both Phusita and Gabrielle discuss where they went on their dairy externships and what they learned while they were at those practices. They also offer tips to students who want to go on externships such as applying for funding through the AABP Foundation, make a list of goals to share with the practice, looking for something different than you experience at your veterinary school, being open minded and willing to learn, and appreciating the time practices spend in mentoring students during their externship. Phusita and Gabrielle also provide suggestions for veterinarians to improve the student's externship experience which include asking the student what they want to accomplish and experience, providing a schedule so they can see what they will see and do, giving them options based on what they are interested in learning, providing as much hands-on activity as possible, and providing meaningful discussion during “windshield time” in the truck. AABP student members can apply for externships at this link under the Student Menu of the AABP website. AABP encourages members to list their externship opportunities on the AABP website so that students can find opportunities by going to this page. Please support the AABP Foundation which provides externship and education grants as well as clinically relevant cattle research and welfare grants. If you would like to restrict your donation to externship grants, please contact fred@aabp.org for information. You can donate to the AABP Foundation at this link. If you have a suggestion for a future podcast, email haveyouherd@aabp.org.
For our last show of the year, Hannah Moore, CFP®, a 2021 FPA Heart of Financial Planning award recipient, shares her experiences creating the extraordinarily successful FPA Externship. Hannah tells the story of her career development, podcasting, and more. Website: guidingwealth.com Hannah's Contact Info: hannah@guidingwealth.com (214) 810-3835 https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannahmoorecfp/
This week's episode is sponsored by Barcast Audio - This amazing service, just got better! Check out their new 1L subscription service. The subscription includes hundreds of podcast-like audio case briefs, as well as printable briefs for all the 1L subjects, audio lectures, and more! Use code LADIES at checkout to get your first month free.On this week's episode the ladies chat with JB Tropp, Associate Professor of Clinical Education, Director of Externship & Pro Bono Programs, and the Director of Career Services at Thomas Jefferson school of law! JB also works as a Legal Career Coach for Bryce Legal. Don't hesitate to reach out to her if you have more questions after this episode. JB attended Fordham Law School and got her first job at the Brooklyn DA's office after her trial practice teacher, the DA at the time, saw her work in class and fast tracked her into the office. The ladies brought JB on the podcast to chat about what 3L's should be doing to make sure that they are best prepared for their futures, this is what she had to say. Remember three things: 1. How do you present yourself? 2. It is time to start networking! 3. Time to get an externship! JB shares her tips and tricks for networking. Including where to start if you haven't networked at all in law school! She includes questions to ask when you do sit down and start networking with people. Her number one tip, ASK FOR MORE NAMES TO NETWORK WITH!! Check out Bryce Legal HERE and reach out to JB HERE FACEBOOK GROUP
Joined with the head of the SLP department, Bob Serianni, a recent alum, and her previous externship supervisor, talk about how vital externships are to gaining experience in the field. To learn more about our podcast series, visit salus.edu/podcasts
“But just know that as a student, the doors are endless and wide open and no matter how many of them you want to walk through in the long run is completely fine.”Our guest today is Legend Thurman. Legend is a veterinary student at the Royal Veterinary College and at the time of the recording was completing and externship with the AVMA Membership and Field Services Team. She shares what the vet school application process was like for her and we even learn her favorite question asked on an application! We also chat about what going to school in the UK is like and why that was the right choice for her. Legend also shares what drew her to the AVMA externship and what she has been working on during her time with us. We cannot wait to share this journey with you!Remember we want to hear from you! Please be sure to subscribe to our feed on Apple Podcasts and leave us a ratings and review. You can also contact us at MVLPodcast@avma.org You can also follow us on Social Media @AVMAVets #MyVetLife #MVLPodcast
Joined with the head of the SLP department, Bob Serianni, a recent Salus graduate and her previous externship supervisor, share their experience working in the field.To learn more about our podcast series, visit salus.edu/podcasts
The organization seeks to expand on the success of its first year offering the internship-style training in its second summer.
Hannah Moore — Internships/Externships — 1:30-28:40How the new "externship" program works.What participants receive at the end.What financial advisers get out of participation.The cost of the program and the future of the program.The accountability element of the program.Hannah's podcast.Nicole Casperson and Sean Allocca - Bitcoin and Tech — 28:45-43:55Bitcoin story — ongoing concerns from advisers about crypto.The disconnect between clients' interest and advisers' willingness to invest in crypto.The FOMO around Bitcoin's moves.This week's TechStack$ - gamification in the financial advice industry.The challenge in gamifying steady-eddy savings.Bitcoin cover story: Bitcoin bears: Financial advisers still cautious of cryptoGuest Bio: Hannah Moore is a certified financial planner and certified financial transitions expert. She is the owner of Guiding Wealth and works one-on-one with each of its clients.Hannah graduated from Baylor University with a degree in Financial Services and Planning and Business Management in 2008. Since then, Hannah has been voted one of D Magazine's Top Financial Planners in Dallas (from 2014 and running) and was awarded the Young Gun's Award by the Dallas/Fort Worth Financial Planning Association.
Today we are joined by Hannah Moore, owner of Guiding Wealth, a financial planning firm based out of Dallas, TX. Hannah is also the creator and facilitator of the Financial Planning Association’s Summer Virtual Externship, which is an eight-week virtual program for students, planners who lost their job, and those interested in a career change, that helps them apply classroom theory to real-life practice. In this episode, Hannah shares how she became a firm owner, the reasons why she downsized from 350 to 35 clients, and how she designed a firm that fits her lifestyle. We also discuss how Hannah used her own experiences to design the FPA Externship program and how the program gives an incredible amount of value to participants, no matter what career stage they are in. You can find show notes and more information by clicking here: https://bit.ly/3nui4m9
Miranda McLeer is a tax associate at KPMG out of the Boston office. Miranda gives a very realistic look into the entire accounting recruiting process and her first year on-the-job experience . Her sophomore year, she applied to multiple externships, which are held by public accounting firms and can lead to return internship offers after junior summer. She was specially chosen by KPMG to attend one of these programs in Amsterdam. In the KPMG Global Advantage program, she learned about the firm, met other students, and we talk about how one of her biggest takeaways was learning about types of communication across cultures. We get into Miranda's specific role now on the Accounting Methods and Credit Services team and how she helps clients in the biotech space maximize their research and development efforts. She says her role is much more than crunching numbers. She has to take a really holistic and analytical approach to help clients. Her interviewer from sophomore year, who also recommended her for the Global Advantage Program, is the head of her team now. He saw early on, her potential, and Miranda has found friends and mentors of all ages at work even in a work from home environment. We then get into tackling the CPA exam, and her experience abroad in Parma Italy. Miranda was also my Teaching Assistant freshman year, and speaking with her again over a year later was the greatest pleasure puts things into perspective of how much we have both learned in a year.
In this episode of 'Beat Your Addictions' podcast we discuss sex addiction with expert guest Allan Katz. Allan J. Katz is a Licensed Professional Counselor as well as a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist. He has a Master's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from the University of Memphis and is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor. He has completed the Externship in EFT (Emotionally Focused Couple Therapy and sees individuals and couples struggling with sex, drug and alcohol addiction, porn addiction, internet addiction and gambling addiction. He also sees clients for depression, anxiety and trauma. Allan is the author of four books, Addictive Entrepreneurship dealing with the 13 secrets to a successful life as an entrepreneur and Experiential Group Therapy Interventions with DBT: A 30-day program for treating addictions and trauma. He has co-authored Help Her Heal, with Carol Sheets for helping betrayed partners heal. His latest book is Hey! What About Me: How to make yourself and others a priority in a world of indifference, impulsivity and distraction. Both books are available on this website's book section. To make an appointment, call 901-248-6001. All calls are held in the strictest, professional confidence. http://allanjkatz.com/ https://www.facebook.com/BeatYourAddictionsPodcast For more info please visit us at JohnJGiordano.com John's books on sale at Amazon 'How to Beat Your Addictions and Live a Quality Life' https://tinyurl.com/y38qgz2f 'The Kid From The South Bronx Who Never Gave Up' https://tinyurl.com/yxp2ngz4
On this episode, I chat with a current SLP who completed her externship and CF THOUSANDS of miles away from her graduate program.
On this edition of “Inside Career Technical Education,” Porter and Chester Institute President and CEO, Jim Bologa and co-host, Ann Baldwin, speak with Madelaine Cubias, Regional Manager at Dr. Dental. Madelaine speaks of the great relationship Dr. Dental has with Porter and Chester Institute and the various externship opportunities available to students. With 18 locations in Connecticut, Dr. Dental is the perfect place to start a career as a dental assistant post-graduation. Tune in to hear more from Madelaine about accommodations and the hiring process.
On this edition of “Inside Career Technical Education,” Porter and Chester Institute President and CEO, Jim Bologa and co-host, Ann Baldwin, speak with Robyn Perrotti, a Nurse Preceptor at Hartford Healthcare Medical Group. Robyn has worked closely with Porter and Chester Institute over the past year, focusing on expanding the Medical Assisting program externships. Hear more from Robyn about clinicals, hands-on learning and the current demand in the healthcare field.
How often did you wonder as a kid whether you’d ever need Trigonometry skills in the real world? What if your teacher could provide students with an example of how engineers, accountants or scientists truly need that math because the teacher had actually worked with these professionals in the real world?That’s what the Maryland Chamber of Commerce’s Teacher Externship program aims to do. The program bridges the gap between businesses and educators by pairing high school teachers with top Maryland businesses that can provide hands-on experience in industries related to the subjects they teach.We spoke to Whitney Harmel from the Maryland Chamber Foundation about the program and what it hopes to offer teachers and businesses in the coming year.If you or a teacher you know are interested in applying, check out the Maryland Externship application page. And find more information on the Maryland Chamber’s Advocacy programs here.
I was not always an outdoorsy person. I was born and raised in N.J. where I lived in apartments. Not that that is a bad thing (great for Halloween and Snow Days). But, much different from the woods where we currently reside.My first job was at V & J Pizza in Wayne, N.J., I was 14 years old. (this was before they had serious child labor laws) I was in charge of making sandwiches and salads and taking orders. Being a girl, I was never allowed to make the pizzas. An injustice that still irks me today. I went on to run the concessions at a roller rink before going on a field trip with my Home Ec class to the Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park, N.Y. The spark was lit and I was on my way….I graduated from the CIA after an Externship in New Orleans and moved to Phoenix, AZ. In the years that followed, I have had a career in food service focusing on Baking and Pastries, raised 3 kids, and taught the Culinary Arts to students of all ages.In June of 2018, we left the desert for the mountains of Prescott, AZ. AKA, the Cabin. You will notice that my recipes are down to earth and approachable. That is on purpose! Food is for everyone and I don’t see the need to frou frou it all up!Deb Snyder, CSCE, CPCCookingAtTheCabin@gmail.com
Welcome back, listeners to the G.R.I.T Podcast Getting Real Immersed in Truth- Intersecting hard conversations with the Gospel; We seek and speak the truth about what's going on around us. I am your host Robrenna Redl, and we're at the end of our series on self-care with part 2 of the emotional and spiritual aspect we're calling soul-care. If you missed part 1 of today's discussion, go to episode 8; We discussed how our emotional and spiritual selves are affect our physical self and vice versa. Joining us again is Patria Rector. Patria is a Counselor and Certified Professional Life Coach with The Broken and Beautiful. She offers Counseling and Coaching services locally in our community and online. Patria holds a Bachelor's degree in Nursing, a Completion of Certificate in trauma-focused narrative therapy, Levels I and II - and a Completion of Externship in trauma-focused narrative therapy - both from The Allender Center. Connect with me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/robrennaredl/ (@robrennaredl) and my https://www.facebook.com/GRIT-Podcast-Getting-Real-Immersed-In-Truth-118542883129497 (Getting Real Immersed in Truth Podcast Facebook) Podcast Facebook page The podcast is produced by me - Robrenna Redl, and Hand-crafted Studios. Original Music by Hand-crafted Studios: Composer Michael Coffey For more information on this topic and to find encouragement in these trying times, check out these sites and Podcasts that deal with these issues on a deeper level: Find Patria: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/ (The Broken and Beautiful ) The work of healing: https://theallendercenter.org/ (The Allender Center) Books to discover: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-body-keeps-the-score-bessel-van-der-kolk-md/1117229987 (The Body Keeps the Score) by Bessel Van Der Kolk, MD https://www.zondervan.com/9780310348498/emotionally-healthy-spirituality/ (Emotionally Healthy Spirituality ) by Peter Scazzero https://www.ivpress.com/healing-racial-trauma (Healing Racial Trauma The Road to Resilience) by Sheila Wise Rowe The blog post I wrote on https://whollyloved.com/ (WhollyLoved) titled https://whollyloved.com/category/hardships-and-trials/ (Faith and Healing Amid Turmoil). My current Bible study that I highly recommend: https://www.lifeway.com/jesusandwomen (Jesus and Women in the First Century and Now) by Kristi Mclelland Check out the https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/podcast/?v=4096ee8eef7d (Emotionally Healthy Spirituality Podcast) Podcasts on Salem Media's Life audio https://www.lifeaudio.com/christians-in-a-time-of-coronavirus/ (Christians in a Time of Coronavirus) https://www.lifeaudio.com/story-behind-podcast/ (Story Behind) https://www.lifeaudio.com/breathe-the-stress-less-podcast/ (Breathe The Less Stress Podcast) https://www.lifeaudio.com/faith-over-fear/ (Faith over Fear)
“I never really considered vet medicine because I never thought I could get in, because I knew how difficult vet school was. And then after doing some hard thinking, I think I decided that if I really wanted to do it, I can do it and I was very fortunate that Otterbein has an equine program geared toward, to get students into veterinary school. So, I had no equine experience prior, but I met with my advisor, and she said if I really want to do it, I can do it! So I jumped right in and got to learn about horses and that got me through within three years and now I’m at Ohio State!”Our guest today is Jordan Riha. Jordan is a second-year veterinary student at The Ohio State University. While she may have decided she wanted to become a veterinarian a little later in life, that has not slowed her down at all. She has taken advantage of every opportunity that has been put in front her and done it all with a positive attitude. We are so excited to watch the rest of her career unfold and can’t wait to share her journey with you. Remember we want to hear from you! Please be sure to subscribe to our feed on Apple Podcasts and leave us a ratings and review. You can also contact us at MVLPodcast@avma.org You can also follow us on Social Media @AVMAVets #MyVetLife #MVLPodcast
Uncharted listeners get a free month of PetDesk, plus telemedicine tools Two-Way Messaging and Video Chat included free for 3 months! Learn more at petdesk.com/uncharted. REGISTRATION FOR UVC ONLINE CONFERENCE IS OPEN!! Head over to www.unchartedvet.com and click CONFERENCES This week on the Uncharted Veterinary Podcast, Dr. Andy Roark and practice management goddess Stephanie Goss tackle a question from the mailbag. What makes a good externship? How do you find one? How do you create one? What do you do if you're in a crummy one?? Let's get into it!
Ben Lewis & Buffy Fletcher of the Financial Planning Association (FPA) join host Chris Boyd to share some of the great underutilized resources for FPA member practitioners ... from the Coaches Corner, massive Member Discounts on Insurance other services, & FPA MediaSource to Affinity Partnerships, the summer Externship program, the FPA Volatility Resource Center, and so much more! Learn how to maximize value from your association (without a single mention of CE)!
The Return to Embodiment: consciousness, culture, creativity and flourishing
Lisaura Lozada-Goode is a licensed clinical professional counselor, dance/movement therapist, and partner dance instructor. Through her private practice, Drawing Closer Counseling and Wellness, she helps couples and adults create safe bonds and develop thriving relationships through couples counseling, individual therapy and dance/movement therapy. Lisaura completed an Externship in Emotionally Focused Therapy, and uses this modality in her work with couples. Lisaura sees partner dancing as a creative, fun, and fruitful way to support wellness, where socialization, safe contact, and joy can be practiced. She offers a private format for couples called Therapeutic Partner Dance, where partners can explore relational dynamics as they “show up” on the dance floor. To contact Lisaura or to learn more about the services she provides, please visit: www.drawingclosercounselingandwellness.com
The coronavirus pandemic has led hospitals to cancel their observership and externship programs for international medical graduates (IMGs). In this episode, Drs. Rajani Katta and Samir Desai discuss how this will impact IMGs in the residency match. You will learn how to find and take part in U.S. clinical experience during these difficult times and maximize your letters of recommendation. You will also learn how to adjust your overall match strategy and strengthen your overall profile as a residency applicant. For more information, visit us at: www.TheSuccessfulMatch.com www.MD2BConnect.com
On today's episode of the podcast, Lindsay Ash welcomes Ashley Mitchell of First Coast Hearing to the show. Ashley shares her journey in audiology, some of the best parts of owning a private practice (as well as some of the challenges) and talks about what excites her about the industry!
Sarah Castro talks about the IPAA/PESA externship offered for junior/senior high school students and college freshmen. To apply: eec.talentlms.com/index
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“When you see change coming, don’t try to stop it”In this episode of My Veterinary Life Podcast we chat with Dr. Aaron Smiley and Howard Zeigler. Dr. Smiley is a 2007 graduate from the University of Illinois and Howard is a 3rd year veterinary student at University of Georgia. This summer Howard is completing an internship with Dr. Smiley through the Veterinary Entrepreneurship Academy. They were so much fun to chat with and have some exciting ideas! We cannot wait to share this journey with you!Remember we want to hear from you! Please be sure to subscribe to our feed and leave us a ratings and review. You can also contact us at MVLPodcast@avma.org You can also follow us on Social Media @AVMAVets #MyVetLife #MVLPodcastTo learn more about DVM Mentoring, please visit https://dvmmentor.com/ To find out more about the Veterinary Entrepreneurship Academy, please follow this link: https://vea.vet/
“The veterinary field is the Swiss Army knife of medicine”Thanks for joining us on a special episode of My Veterinary Life Podcast. Today we are joined by Elizabeth Dorwart. At the time of the recording, Elizabeth was completing a summer externship with the AVMA. We learn how she learned of this opportunity and what it has been like so far. We also talk about her 2 + 2 Veterinary school program and her recent move to Iowa State University to start her third year of veterinary school. Lizzie is so fun to chat with and be around. We are glad she joined us for a few weeks this summer and we cannot wait to share this journey with you!Remember we want to hear from you! Please be sure to subscribe to our feed and leave us a ratings and review. You can also contact us at MVLPodcast@avma.org You can also follow us on Social Media @AVMAVets #MyVetLife #MVLPodcastIf you are interested in learning more about AVMA Externship opportunities, please visit the following website: https://www.avma.org/About/SAVMA/Events/Pages/AVMA-Externships.aspx
The Law School Toolbox Podcast: Tools for Law Students from 1L to the Bar Exam, and Beyond
Welcome back to the Law School Toolbox podcast! Today, we’re talking with Law School Toolbox tutor Allison Pincus about experiential learning opportunities in law school and why you should make sure you’re engaging in some of them. In this episode, we discuss: What experiential learning is and why the ABA is requiring more of it Why it is so important to engage in experiential learning opportunities as a law student What the best experiential learning opportunities are How to ensure you get to have the experience you want How to balance experiential learning and your regular class load Our experiences with experimental learning RESOURCES: ABA Standards of Legal Education (https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publications/misc/legal_education/Standards/2014_2015_aba_standards_chapter3.authcheckdam.pdf) Tips for Applying to Internships and Externships (https://lawschooltoolbox.com/tips-applying-internships-externships/) Podcast Episode 66: Tips for a Successful Law School Internship or Externship (https://lawschooltoolbox.com/podcast-episode-66-tips-successful-law-school-internship-externship/) Episode Transcript: Download the Transcript (https://lawschooltoolbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Episode-141-Experiential-Learning-in-Law-School-wAllison-Pincus.pdf) If you enjoy the podcast, we'd love a nice review and/or rating on Apple Podcasts or your favorite listening app. And feel free to reach out to us directly. You can always reach us via the contact form on the Law School Toolbox website. If you're concerned about the bar exam, check out our sister site, the Bar Exam Toolbox. Thanks for listening! Alison & Lee
International medical graduates (IMGs) seeking to submit strong residency applications recognize the importance of U.S. clinical experience. However, the process of finding and securing such experiences, known as observership and externships, can be very difficult. In this episode of the Success in Medicine podcast, join Dr. Samir Desai as he interviews Veena Sampatkumar, an IMG who completed multiple observerships and externships. Learn how she secured a rotation experience within several months of moving to the U.S. You'll also discover the questions you should ask before you commit to an experience, the documents you need to prevent any delays in starting these rotations, and how to avoid pitfalls in the process. The episode ends with a discussion on how IMGs can make a favorable impression that leads to strong letters of recommendation.
This week, Dr. Dan Allender concludes his three-part conversation with Laurie Proctor, who has completed the Training Certificate and the Externship program with The Allender Center. Dan and Laurie are joined by Emma, Laura's 14-year-old daughter, who reflects on an experience of trauma and what it was like for her mom to respond to that experience with wisdom and care.
Today on this episode of the NP Dude podcast, I respond to a listener’s comment about whether it is legal to become a partner in a physician owned practice. I also give what info I would want to know before I would consider buying into a practice. I also give my opinion on NP externship […] The post Episode 063 – Becoming a Partner in a Practice and My Thoughts on NP Externship Programs! first appeared on The NP Dude.
On this episode of the NP Dude podcast, I talk about my issues with charting including “closing the loop” on patient problems and seek your expert guidance on how I can get faster (and better) at charting. I also respond to a listener’s question regarding Ohio’s new law regarding our externship hours! Catch me on […] The post Episode 043 – My Charting Experiences and What Happens to Our Ohio Externship Hours! first appeared on The NP Dude.
Law enforcement officers have particular job requirements that predispose them to back pain. Spine specialist, Dr Nate McKee tells us about these challenges. Dr. Nate McKee is a chiropractor out of Davison, MI. He graduated in 2016 with his Doctorate of Chiropractic from National University of Health Sciences. Dr. McKee and his wife, Dr. Shannon McKee, recently opened their chiropractic and acupuncture practice, McKee Chiropractic Unlimited, back in October of 2016. Though a recent graduate, Dr. Nate McKee has gained significant clinical experience, which has made him confortable diagnosing and treating complex neck and back conditions. While in chiropractic school he did an Externship at the Roudebush VA Medical Center in Indianapolis, IN, he's earned Cox® Technic Certification, and he is working towards becoming a Certified Chiropractic Sports Physician. Dr. McKee and his wife enjoy working together, to give patients in their area the best care, utilizing Cox® Technic, acupuncture, and more. Resources: Dr. McKee's website Find a Back Doctor The Cox Table by Haven Innovation
Episode 20 already…Seems like I started recording just yesterday! Today I respond to why there has been debate about FNPs working in Ohio emergency departments and what I recommend to protect your license. I also discuss what a response from the Ohio Board of Nursing that is not at all what I would have expected regarding […] The post Episode 020 – FNPs in the ED, Ohio CTP Externship Hours, and More Contracts! first appeared on The NP Dude.
This week in the Law School Insider we are bringing you Bill Fleener, a Clinical Coordinator for Western Michigan University Cooley Law School. Today we are speaking with Bill Fleener about Tips for a successful Law School Internship or Externship. I know you will find a ton of value in what he shares.
Today is a hodgepodge of info that has been rattling around in my head and I take the opportunity to let it fall out! I give my perspective as an attorney and FNP as to how and negotiate payment structure when you are the first APRN in a group or facility. I also provide my […] The post Episode 009 – Payment Structure, Ohio HB 216 Changes, and the new CARA law first appeared on The NP Dude.
The Law School Toolbox Podcast: Tools for Law Students from 1L to the Bar Exam, and Beyond
Welcome back to the Law School Toolbox podcast! Today, we’re talking about how to figure out what type of law to practice. There are more options than most people realize, and your career happiness and success can ride on these decisions, so it’s important to think beyond “litigation or corporate.” Ideally, you’ll find something that uses your unique skills, interests, and background to set yourself apart from the pack. Tune in for ideas on how to decide what's the best fit for you! In this episode we discuss: The different types of law that exist beyond just litigation and corporate work How you can learn what each type of lawyer does Alison and Lee share their experience with different practice areas Should you specialize? Why internships and externships can help you decide what type of law to practice Questions you can ask yourself to decide which type of law is the best fit for you How to test the waters and find out if a certain type of law is a good fit The importance of thinking about your career options early How to use your own unique skills, traits, and background to your advantage Resources Podcast Episode 5: Maintaining Authenticity in the Legal Profession (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/podcast-episode-5-maintaining-authenticity-legal-profession/) Podcast Episode 58: Non-Profit Law and Social Entrepreneurship (with Guest Adrian Tirtanadi of Bayview Hunters Point Community Legal) (http://lawschooltoolbox.libsyn.com/058-non-profit-law-and-social-entrepreneurship-with-guest-adrian-tirtanadi-of-bayview-hunters-point-community-legal) Do You Want a BigLaw Job? (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/do-you-want-a-biglaw-job/) Podcast Episode 66 - Tips for a Successful Law School Internship or Externship (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/podcast-episode-66-tips-successful-law-school-internship-externship/) Thinking of Becoming a Solo Practitioner (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/thinking-of-becoming-a-solo-practitioner/) What Does Your Personality Test Say About Your Career (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/what-does-your-personality-test-really-say-about-your-career/) If you enjoy the podcast, we'd love a nice review and/or rating on iTunes. And feel free to reach out to us directly. You can always reach us via the contact form on the Law School Toolbox website (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/contact). Thanks for listening! Alison & Lee
The Law School Toolbox Podcast: Tools for Law Students from 1L to the Bar Exam, and Beyond
Welcome back to the Law School Toolbox podcast. Today we're talking about how to have a successful law school internship or externship experience. For most law students, these jobs are their first experiences in the legal workplace (or maybe in any professional workplace). Be sure you're behaving like a responsible professional, and you'll set yourself up for success in any internship or externship! In this episode we discuss: What's the difference between an internship and an externship? Different types of internships or externships, and how the expectations vary What should you do (and not do) in a legal workplace? How to be a professional What do people really expect of you? Practical tips for day-to-day scenarios (meetings, phone calls, email, etc.) How to get along with others in the workplace Defining your goals for this experience Traits you should develop to succeed as a lawyer If you enjoy the podcast, we'd love a nice review and/or rating on iTunes. And feel free to reach out to us directly. You can always reach us via the contact form on the Law School Toolbox website (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/contact). Thanks for listening! Good luck in your internships and externships! Alison & Lee Resources: How to Behave Like a Professional in the Legal Workplace Podcast (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/podcast-episode-25-behave-like-professional-legal-workplace/) Tips for Legal Writing at Your Summer Job (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/tips-for-legal-writing-at-your-summer-job/) Being a Professional in a Generation Gap Workplace (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/getting-an-offer-being-professional-in-a-generation-gap-workplace/) Writing Effectively in Your Summer Legal Job (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/podcast-episode-45-writing-effectively-summer-legal-job/) How to End a Summer Internship on a Good Note (http://lawschooltoolbox.com/end-summer-internship-good-note/)
Boston University School of Law’s Semester-in-Practice Program has provided some great opportunities to law students who are looking to prepare themselves for the legal world. Host David Yas, a BU Law alum, former publisher of Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly and a V.P. at Bernstein Global Wealth, talks with Professor Sean J. Kealy, director of the Government Lawyering program in Washington D.C, and Michael Greenwald, an alum of BU School of Law, who spent a semester in Washington working for the U.S. Treasury's Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. Sean and Michael talk about the benefits of the program, the hands-on training, and share their personal experiences.
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