Spiritual Sequel

Show Notes (0:30) Trump talk commences dictators aren't Rhodes Scholars, Trump is a media savant, Trump is clickbait in human form, playing different roles depending on who you are with, The Simpsons predicting Trump, my email has turned into our mail, no news in the Trump era since we already know everything, only way to listen to Trump speeches is to be on Angel Dust, Trump is the Billy Madison speech at the end, what are rallies?, can't mention Melania on Mother's Day, giving Multiple Choice answers (23:00) Introducing our new venture, Trump lies with no effort, he;s so lazy with lies that sometimes he tells the truth, doesn't have a sense of humor, he is the humor, evil dictator meeting to sell Hydroclourine, Kevin Hart Larry David video, plus Chappelle & Chris Rock showing their love for Kevin Hart, Chappelle is 2020 MLK, why baseball is less popular now, how to fix baseball (34:00 headliner clip), how I watch sports, take life less seriously because we are just ants, bugs aren't as gross as animals, are there pairings to food we have overlooked, what do Cats and Dogs eyes say, Japanese are cute (45:00) Bill & Ted talk again, What is Station?, wearing your butt like they are pants, disappointed by heaven, Hell was cool though, having a hot Step Mom that marries Bill & Ted's Dads, Carter is pro-mom, this is a pro-mom podcast, mega identity, don't like Brian Cox being the voice for McDonald's, Paul Giamatti needs to be in all commercials, McConaughey is strange, Carter's modern theory that we are kings with how much entertainment we have, Forrest's experience seeing a film at a theater during Covid

(0:30) No intro, how we listen to podcasts, making products for the consumer, can twitter have no bots, Bill & Ted Trilogy, Blazed up Carter on the pod, Caffeine & Marijuana, why do car prototypes never get released, open-air office building, our mole people future due to climate change(14:00) Bill & Ted convo commences, Forrest is the God of Sequels, why this new sequel was disappointing for Carter, the daughters mission was best part, and Keanu's daughter was amazing doing a Keanu impression, when dumb person logic is the right thing to do, smart person would overthink it, codependence issues similar to Booksmart only they kind of drop it, the impossible pressure to make a song that unites the universe, at least make it catchy or funny, who are Bill & Ted? Are they "Valley Guys"?, ranking these films(31:40) Ranking these films, funniest moment in Bogus Journey, how conflict doesn't matter in these movies, Keanu doesn't seem like a big star compared to Alex Winter, low maintenance star, Danny Glover looks younger now, Wayne's World is similar to this movie, the way Wayne stands is hilarious, what if Austin Powers 3 had Dana Carvey play an evil Dr, Villain Buddy Cop movie, Dr. Evil Corporation(45:57) Enjoying Casino Royale split into 2 parts like a Netflix series, the poker scenes are really between Bond & Vesper, not being able to understand Daniel Craig & Mads accents, not many English Bonds, Spectre is so bad, Bill & Ted old seemed like an aged super famous rock band, Rick & Morty multi universe Bill & Ted movie, loving Harvey Keitl even when he is a piece of shit, the ultimate anti-hero, not needing save the cat formula writing, Robert Duvall can't play a rule breaker, making a Joker movie ever other year, one script, five big time directors, contest to see who made the best movie, Willem Defoe & Robert Eggers JOKER MOVIE, Bill & Ted locations that we have been(1:09:10) Carter enters a pothead dorm room, buildings from the past that are suppose to be our current future look lame today, Gangis Khan raping a phone booth, Napoleon with shoe polish hair

(1:45) 1999 Godzilla is so humorless yet packed with comedians, copying Jurassic Park, is this a sequel, it's not a reboot, 1998 Godzilla isn't invited because that movie is bad bad, how risky that movie was other than hiring Roland Emmerich, 2014 Godzilla(9:06) why model your film off Batman vs. Superman, Kyle Chandler is the king of the monsters, MUTOS look like Starship Trooper aliens, Godzilla as a slasher movie icon(13:35) Forrest pitch to create a worthy sequel, dumb scientists, we deserve an unpredictable Godzilla, no more eco-terrorists!, climate crisis creates King Gadoriah, why so many monsters, learn from Spider-man 3, King Kong vs. T-Rexes(29:15) Are we sure the Monsterverse is connected, do we feel bad for Kyle Chandler, why isn't he a huge star, would you be our Dad Kyle Chandler**,** could watch Charles Dance waiting in the subway, ****12 angry men & women plus Godzilla(36:05) radical pitch from Carter, Detective Pikachu is dribble, a Jarmusch Godzilla, Alpha predator, humans aren't apex predators, under the boardwalk(48:02) Godzilla POV, large monsters aren't scary (ie: The Meg), deep blue sea love, Godzilla attacks New Orleans, Mortal Kombat, Millie Bobby Brown, Green Monster joke, Pacific Rim debacle, Transformers(1:00:19) imagine getting in an Uber, only its actually a robot in disguise, a three-headed dragon alien, Marvel movies like hanging out with your friends, M. Night, news broadcasts while in a casino, find out Godzilla is attacking on our phones(1:06:40) King of the monsters a response to lack of titular character in 2014 version, tip for watching films, opposite views on trailer, Godzilla vs large Jaguar, underwater scenes(1:12:27) Deep Rising love, Godzilla almost died(1:18:14) A plea to studio execs, movies vs tv, building movie casts like drafting a team, Kyle Chandler is a star & our future dad, bad guy's plan makes no sense, sending email: "i'm worried about mom"(1:27:21) couple with opposite reviews, Early Edition with Trump tweets, Trump is our Godzilla

Show Notes(0:25) this podcast is the most fast & furious podcast because... family, even though we are more slow & calm, Keanu Reeves leading the "Calm & Collected" Franchise, BMW ads with Clive Owen as the driver directed by Tony Scott & Wong Kar-Wei & Neil Blomkamp, Clive Owen couldn't have been Bond due to his strange run, the odds will be what the odds will be, car access on the LA rivers(10:55) Italian Job reference, Deck as a name, PT cruisers as a getaway ride, automatic Audi in Transporter 2, American vs European drivers, Vin Diesel vs Statham is too humorless, Statham back as a star, finally use his humor, could Deckard Shaw be Chev Chelios?, Chris Evans playing Human Torch & Captain America in a buddy cop TV show on Disney +, Steve Rogers running a general store, in-between the action film, seeing iconic characters just hanging out & bored(23:19) Idris Elba is so cool, "coolness" as the true competition for hero vs villain, rarely get to see Idris being cool, American Gangster Album, Elba as the Ghost Rider or Blade, thrusting chest in Beast of No Nation, idiosyncratic The Gunman, Sean Penn has a Mickey Rourke in Double Team old face ripped sailor body, What part of the day does Nic Cage work out?, opening scene reminiscent of The Matrix, Sherlock Holmes the Kung Fu fighter similar to heist films, Hobbs is a tracker yet don't know how he tracks(34:31) so little tension in this film, made action dull even when what was happening was on the surface thrilling, The Rock can fit in a Ferrari with two other people, next level Dark Knight motorcycle, Mick Jagger, two tough guy Brit leading men, Michael Caine as Papa Shaw, Vanessa Kirby's cockney & Statham accent, Statham doesn't have a British accent, his posing fighting style, requisite female fighting move, The Rock as a figure skater(48:47) Split screen intros for Rock & Statham, bad fight scene in Furious 7, original concerns when Hobbs & Shaw announced, Drew Pierce and comedy writing, Hotel Artemis & El Royale, Hobbs playing his Gameplan character in Fate of the Furious, 500 days of Summer reality vs fantasy, our short film using a split screen for "don't text and drive" PSA, only call him Dwayne Johnson [but still going to say lines only a WWE star would say], one eyebrow arch(1:01:30) unifying message for us all, all these differences between Rock & Statham, but really the same guy, two muscle bound Don Rickles types ribbing each other, how annoying their banter was in Fate yet still had potential, getting two Fucks past MPAA, funny Guy Ritchie Snatch Statham, Black Superman vs Black James Bond(1:09:40) non-white lead not able to kiss or be romantic with the white female lead, Jet Li & Aaliyah, Chow Yun-Fat & Mira Sorvino, The Corruptor love, Marky Mark's terrible performance seemed like community service for hate crimes, Brian Cox as a Shaw family member, will Brian Cox ever be a household name?, playing Hannibal Lektor like a schoolgirl(1:19:14) The Rock gets the girl, why can't kids hear about sex?, Bear sex, Doctor Doolittle remake delayed a year, how to tell if a movie is entertaining(1:24:23) Opening song, too much obnoxious music overall, similar to Atomic Blonde, actions scenes without stakes, making a film in 13 months, 1 great fighter vs. 10 mediocre fighters, punch count tracker(1:30:35) Lock & Dinkley spinoff, spoilers discussed, Ryan Reynolds playing unmasked & unburned Deadpool... basically Ryan Reynolds, a movie star becoming a movie star, iconic voice, concerned about Red Notice with Gal Gadot, Philadelphia's own Kevin Hart, spinoff of a spinoff(1:40:48) Forrest's sequel pitch, waveform director scenes, Brickston Lore, could Eva Mendes be The Director?, Hobbs vs Beck from The Rundown, Gerard Butler as the next villain, Statham vs Gerry Butler needs to happen, Mechanic Ben Foster as a wild card, lose a year of Statham with The Meg, Franco & Kate Bosworth as siblings in Homefront,(1:52:09) over under Vin Diesel sees Hobbs vs. Shaw, terrible The Rock mom acting, Clint Eastwood playing the baby in American Sniper, #oscarsostupid, deep faked Vin Diesel, Vin as the true global star(2:01:11) Christmas with the Shaws, do the Brits celebrate Christmas?, big action movie followed by smaller personal behind the scenes film between next action film, Hobbs & Shaw Vacation, Samoa concerns going in, Hobbs criminal upbringings, Roman Reigns is a cardboard cut out, David Leitch learning from others mistakes as second unit director, stunts not appreciated by The Academy

(1:00) what is Sprite Lymanade if not regular Sprite, the SNAP heard round the universe, our theater experience like a European sporting event, how smart the marketing was not showing most of this film beforehand, comparing it to US(13:37) Before seeing Spiderman, we question how he will go from an alien space ship to a five year non-existence then back to a school trip to Europe?, old wrong theories on Wandavision, don't understand the powers for certain heroes (Thor, Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch) similar to Harry Potter wand magic, even if you don't like superheroes...go for the actors, the better way to pronounce Thanos, ScarJo Hair, the Rat getting Antman out of the Quantum Realm, why not the giant ant playing the drums, was the ant raising Antman's daughter, Black Panther with a high WAR rate(28:30) Captain Marvel Stone-Cold Steve Austin Stare, Tony Stark wouldn't want a quiet funeral, Where's Lupita?, Does Lupita become Red from US?, Hawkeye intro, why is Tony Stark flirting with Aunt May, Ways to name sequels to avoid confusion, disproving our own conclusion,(38:56) Frost's take on Endgame, two unique individual halves not similar to Twilight Harry Potter, low expectations, Robert Redford looks like he has no idea what is going on around him, Avengers: Endgame reminiscent of Out of Sight, stealing is okay as long as its celestial gems, Infinity War is the villain's journey, the the MCU as a new season of TV, , Phase 4 for MCU(56:26) Where does MCU go in phase 4?, comic book nerd stereotype, I'm an 80% vegetarian, cool current comics - Deadly Class, Joe Biden appearance, Fing Fang Foom, Captain America vs Red Lobster

Sparknotes Transcript:(2:23) The Dennis Miller podcast, Sequels have ended, Star Wars Ep 9 killed sequels, our full take on the finale, can we find a way to cover The Corruptor on this pod, renaming the podcast " movies to watch while you're stuck at home and have nothing to do that are great", living under rocks, too many damn sequels, is Shaft a sequel, Black James Bond, in the age of google why name your movie the same as another movie, what day of the week is it(8:36) What year do you think you are in, how old do you feel, it feels like it's '08, Clueless and Breckin Meyer, My Best Friend's Wedding chemistry, Big Daddy's downbeat ending(13:30) first bi coastal zoom call podcast recording, the movies we are covering today are Persona & Enemy, has anyone heard of Enemy, made the same year as Prisoners, Taylor Wolf recommendation, the wife's performance by Sarah Gadon is THE PERFORMANCE, Doppelgänger movies, Persona is Carter's new favorite film, watching Persona in Italian then switching to Swedish, making fun of Dutch language(20:00) Is Fight Club in the doppelgänger category, pairs well with Persona & Enemy, Brad Pitt is the ideal man, does fight club's twist work, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels twist, people taking away the opposite message a movie is endorsing, Enemy influenced by The Tenant, the earliest Carter pitch(26:00) DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN IS BACK! Carter's earliest pitch, you don't have to skip to the end for this one, doppelgänger film for transgender, can a cisgender person create a transgender story that isn't offensive, the yellowest movie also known as Mustard the movie or Grey Poupon the movie aka Enemy, the ridicoulousness of the Blindness trailers, Hollywood has clearly never taken the bus, being hit by Adam Driver's bus in Paterson, tangents end(32:20) Enemy discussion commences, most confusing movie, Villenueve makes such measured films, liking movies that leave you scratching your heads, was Jake abused in Prisoners with all that strange blinking, Sarah Gadon's performance, Spiders, watching Explainer videos to figure out movies(43:04) "Sometimes you have compulsions you can't control coming from the subconscious... they are the dictator inside ourselves", routine is not so bad, you never go on the same walk twice, watching a movie again and again, need patience with Enemy, great shot with his laptop(48:12) Bridging Persona with Enemy, what defines us, film can be more than entertainment, we are all actors, we al where masks, both have actors that don't want to act anymore, Forrest theory about Persona & Sly Stallone, Rise of Skywalker letdown, make Kylo the true villain, Star Wars 9 scenes are Monsanto seeds, logical & rational world doesn't correlate what art is doing, Carter's train of thought goes off the rails, Crimson Tide is Frost's favorite film, should submarine movies be so good(1:07:12) When Persona really comes alive, self-love, what is the best, Chamillionaire as my favorite rapper, Blindspotting Hamilton musical, Euphoria ending, Boycott shows MLK going from human to idol, trying to be the best can be a mental illness, go see Arctic on Amazon Prime - he fights real polar bears, Belle de Jour will blow your mind, Queen Sano on Netflix - Female African James Bond, get ready for the unreleased podcast episodes from the vault, Underwater as Best Picture, Forrest one and only tweetFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterFacebook

 Sparknotes Transcript:(1:09) Can you watch Star Wars at the Star Wars theme park or does that take you out of the experience, watching Adam Driver's character in The Report watch Zero Dark Thirty, has James Bond ever watched a movie, revisiting the new trilogies trailers, not understanding why Last Jedi wasn't a fun experience, Rian Johnson's comments on his choices to challenge Star Wars Lore, our anticipation in seeing JJ back at the wheel, how important the music is, not getting Rey & Finn in Last Jedi, Oscar Isaac wanted to kiss Finn(19:45) thoughts from trailers, Evil Rey, is she a vision, what if you didn't market this movie at all. diluting the brand, JJ Abrams is good at making nerd things cool, Kathleen Kennedy is the Daryl Morey of film(30:44) Kevin Feige building a Star Wars Universe, Marvel has the self-aware advantage where Star Wars is the Super Bowl of movies, very serious, the different aesthetic looks to each phase in the MCU, Edgar Wright& Marvel, will other studios catch up to Disney and create sustainable universes, will creative execs learn from Feige, how the new Marvel Disney + shows do, how they effect the movies, so cued into the business of movies that we look forward to studios decisions, digital lens flares, digital color correction in Amelia, self-consciousness & Adam Driver & Mushrooms, psychoanalyzing Carter(54:00) George Lucas quote in '83 regarding the third Star Wars trilogy, more than just light and dark side, connecting to The Report, movies like The Siege & Enemy of the State that predicted the future but seemed far fetched at the time, having no idea how Star Wars can possibly wrap up, even Rian Johnson isn't sure how it will conclude, the Adam Driver 180, wanting to see the Lord & Miller Solo, Rogue One original, Star Wars as a war movie, Robo Cop 2 as a sentient sequel, droid love story, Underground 6 vs 6 Underground, Harriet Tubman's superhero team, seeing Last Jedi trailer and being disappointed, Rian Johnson needs to play in his own sandbox, directors battling it out, Daisy Ridley outside of Star WarsFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Sparknotes Transcript:(0:52) Ryan Reynolds changing his name to Van Wilder, the Ryan Reynolds propaganda machine, him & The Rock as the biggest stars we got, could Jerry O'Connell have a Ryan Reynolds type career, Ryan Reynolds breaking the fourth wall with Deadpool and social media, knowing your limits as a creative can make you more successful, Ben Affleck not able to play himself in Gone Girl(19:12) Michael Bay's odd career, no matter how much garbage he makes you still look forward to his movies, no one shoots like him, do all of his movies end in Cuba?, The Rock vs a Transformer, Did Krasinski sign on to 13 Hours as an audition reel to get Jack Ryan?, a streaming star(25:53) EXPECTATIONS: looks like Deadpool & Michael Bay are clashing, Ryan Reynolds in a Nevaldine/Taylor flick, two writers as a law firm, too many sparks(36:42) REACTIONS: Michael Bay has lost his mind, referendum on directors getting free reign, Variety saying last 45 minutes of the Irishman is best of Scorsese's career, pros & cons to studios vs streaming, Forrest is concerned he will sound like a Michael Bay Hater, a critic when he has been on Michael Bay Island for so so long, 2000 commercials stitched together by a schizophrenic(45:12) referendum on Ryan Reynolds not being able to miss & always likeable, not in Michael Bay movie, the only podcast to rewrite history, where Eminem blew up in the 80s, invented hip hop the way Elvis invented Rock & Roll,camera inside the sole of a shoe, why is being a ghost so great?, Ryan Reynolds made his billions off of Magnets, ripped off Big Hero 6, So many numbers flashing over the screen, Melanie Laurent isn't a character just a set of eyes, Forrest can connect anything back to Double Team, Ryan Reynolds as the surprise bad guy would have been smart, has so much control over the group(1:01:04) Carter's pitch to fix this movie, what a waste of time & money, ruined Michael Bay for Forrest, doesn't like him anymore, he's lucky he has Robopocaylpse, Forrest thinks Drew Goddard's name is Matthew, Blade as a movie to emulate for its music dichotomy, you could edit a good 45 minute movie out of this, THX app was far too overt(1:13:13) this movie killed ________, Bad Boys 3 needs Michael Bay, Bayhem, the preview is more leisurely paced than the finished film, Quantum of Solace opening, do they need a parkour guy, could have made 5 smaller Netflix movies rather than this, knowing when people stop watching a movie on Netflix, editing a movie based off these numbers, constantly changing cuts, I wonder what Michael Mann did this week, saying you won't see Netflix movies in theaters yet seeing Marriage Story, can't edit a movie at this speed and still have humor

 Sparknotes Transcript:(1:20) recording as if you are Van Damme for the entire episode, why no Time Cop 2?, Time Cop TV show, Jack Black says this is Jumanji Part 4 counting Zathura, tying in Tron to this world, board game to video game to...?, Wreck it Ralph, Free Guy or as Forrest calls it "Fire Guy"!, could the Jumanji sequel choose a different video game genre(6:45) EXPECTATIONS, fighting to music isn't dance fighting, Jack Black with the best one note joke for the entire movie performance, Zohan, Hawkeye development in Ultron, Kevin Hart getting to do more in new movie, concerned with The Rock Devito combo, Always Sunny in Jumanji, new kids outside the game vs same kids from the 1st, when was the last good Rock movie, Jake Kasdan's Zero Effect(22:20) Ryan Reynolds & Dwayne Johnson as our two biggest stars, May 21st 2021 - Keanu Day, is this Keanu's year even though he released Replicas, falling asleep on the couch watching streaming, loving the theater experience, Michael Bay as a DP, why is it Ocean's 8?(30:06) Carter's PITCH for where he would go for Jumanji The Next Level, the best part of Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom, our Jungle Cruise trailer thoughts(34:44) REACTIONS, Carter's pitch is the end of Next Level, real characters are less defined, less dimensions as people than their video game counterparts, rewatching the 1st movie, fast forwarding through the kids to get into the video game, the two Dannys, Devito as a national treasure, his fame & career, can we all collectively will Jack Black into not retiring, comparing Devito with Jack Black in that you can watch their reactions even when they aren't the focal point, Andy Garcia taking a bow at the end of this play we saw(44:27) thoughts on the Games of Thrones Hound playing the villain, The Rock is actually good in it, hard to do a Devito impression since so much of it is his size, thoughts on shiny body switch glitch water, didn't smell what Rock was cooking based off the trailer, Nora's restaurant not based off Awkafina's reall name, Jake Kasdan's career, Alex Woff's character is the bad guy(59:11) Karen Gillan's outfit, mixing up Jason Reitman & Kasdan because they are sons of famous moviemen, how Bill Pullman was discovered, Orange County, director's 1st movie vs what general public considers their first movie, Zero Effect TV show with Alan Cumming as Daryl Zero(1:09:25) pitch that Alex Wolff character dies, great impressionists for next Jumanji, bring in Michael Douglas & Shia LaBeuf for sequel, Jumanji: Jungle never sleepsFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Sparknotes Transcript:(2:32) Knives Out discussion with brothers Jansen spoiling as many famous twists as possible, Does it matter if you spoil a movie?, when is the first time you remember seeing spoiler alert, being spoiled in a 1998 Godzilla review, Antman & Wasp post credits theater reaction, Marvel is great at subverting our expectations for what a superhero movie can be but also what can happen, villain wins at the end of one of their movies, major villain turns out to be a fraud, being spoiled by previews, but still wondering how each event connects, Tracy McGrady, Ben Kingsley seeming fake in Iron Man 3(9:32) Hostel reveal is a great twist, every scene is its own story, Usual Suspects twist, Under teh Silver Lake as a red herring film, Mother called a waste of celluloid, Kentucky Fried Daniel Craig!, Magnolia prologue connection, Scream spoiled in middle school, Scream 2 script leak leading to changes to script even though most people didn't read it or care about the internet then, Last Jedi issues, when movies put middle fingers up to their fans,(29:11) reading a script before seeing a film, donut hole speech, Chris Evans playing against type, wanting Gwyneth Paltrow playing Toni Collette's character, wanting more Jamie-Lee, loving Don Johnson, seems like that guy, don't need character building, Noah Segan as a fanboy, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels twist(36:17) James Gunn referencing the University of San Diego Spoilers Study, twists that were obvious, fight club Brad Pitt cardboard flashes, where do we stand on the spoiler debate, what was Jacob Ladder's twist, Jay-Z Volume 1 Usual Suspects, smart move by Hova not acting like so many other rappers, knowing your own limitations, can't be great at everything, some things will hurt your brand, Kanye vs Lil Wayne as actors, Planet of the Apes Tim Burton ending twist, wanting to see a sequel even though that movie was poop, how was Miles Teller suppose to be a smart person in Fantastic Four, the killer in a slasher movie as the protagonist, forgetting Tragedy Girls, overlap between Knives Out & Avengers Endgame(56:15) pro spoiler people but happy we didn't know about Fat Thor & Professor Hulk, spoiling is something that needs to be visual, showing Spiderman in Civil War preview was a mistake, liking Terrence Howard opposite Downey Jr. more than Don Cheadle even though we like Cheadle more as an actor, continuing the franchise with Benoît Blanc, Valentine's Day KillerFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Sparknotes Transcript(0:50) what does de-aged really mean? Could it be short for digitally aged younger or older? Will you google the answer? comparing Irishman experience with recent theatrical Godfather Part 2 experience, don't need too much backstory, using X-Men as an example, an old man movie for old men, was this film made for people to fall asleep, winning the oscar for most people falling asleep, remembering a Mobb Deep CD that was great for taking naps, NO MORE MOVIES OVER 3 HOURS!(7:18) re-editing slow long movies for today's kids, giving a director a pass for what they already accomplished, the questionable framing devices, could Pesci's character actually be a effective mob boss(15:15) Expectations before seeing Irishman, all star cast & crew that gets you up in the morning (and puts you asleep later that night), our memories tricking us into De Niro being in Wolf of Wall Street, replacing the Deaged Dinero with Dicaprio, mobsters are boring, Trump killed the mobster genre, the ways Pacino picks movies, Righteous Kill with 50 cent as the best actor, does Dicaps have a humor weakness, will we ever get more extremely short actors like Pesci & Devito(29:15) better as a mini-series, the endless award ceremony, Anna Paquin appearing out of nowhere, need to fast-forward, the bridge between old subtle Pacino & new off the handle Pacino, need more Diane Keaton in GF2 & amazing in movie that long how little she screen time she has, Black Republican, Ennio Morricone didn't compose Godfather, Sebastion Manascalco, Forrest forgets about Scarface(42:24) Netflix producing record, was it worth making this movie, audience surrogate's as lead characters don't work, old man kicking, Pacino answering the phone like a young man, Russell Crowe Jewish in American Gangster, Daniel Day-Lewis as the Irishman, In theater snack loudness story, Scorsese in his own movies, funniest guy, Modigliani film with Pacino, SImone was a prescient film, Goodfellas & Godfathers & Casino great on cable, long movies in multiple viewings, seeing JFK in thirds

Sparknotes Transcript:(2:00) BEFORE WATCHING: introducing our new format, how Bad Boys franchise changes as its leads evolve, growing up with Martin Lawrence as the funniest person ever, Jim Carrey has every comedy qualification, Joker as an example of the new format(13:14) Charlie's Angels girls night opening day, can this franchise be for women, our take for how to reboot this franchise, was Full Throttle better than the 1st Charlies Angels film, was the 1st film a parody of itself, terrible ending preview in theaters with Lana Del Rey, Miley Cyrus, Ariana Grande, sequel not obligated to have a bigger budget(24:40) CASTING CALL: Gina Gershon, Elizabeth Shue as aging angels, training new group of angels, comment on feminism's change over time, 355 starring Lupita, Chastain, and Penelope Cruz as the modern day Charlies Angels, Rihanna & Miley & Rita Ora or Taylor Swift playing themselves as secret agents, organic sexuality, not enjoying sex & discussions on sex edited out of major tentpole films, could Gina Gershon open a film, defining a movie star, not getting a chance to build a track record then complaining no good female directors, using Hustlers as example to what a Charlies Angels movie could be, Jennifer Lopez as Charlie, enjoying Kristen Stewart post Twilight, Robert Pattison's movie star performance in The King, does the opening of Honey Boy make the best case for Scorsese's "Not Cinema" argument, difficulty in acting opposite a CGI screen(45:03) Carter's pitch for rebooting Charlies Angels, crossover event with A Long Kiss Goodnight, is that a top 5 action movie, Ocean's 11 esque Charlie's Angels, Euphoria's Sam Levinson directed reboot, no more the world is at stake, Bombshell crossover with a mission to take down Fox News(59:55) Expectations before seeing this film, feel like it will be better than the trailer, give us lesbian angel action, lesbian romance in Paradise Hills, talking Colin Kaepernick(1:06:35) AFTER WATCHING: trying to cope now that we have seen Charlies Angels (2019), not a reboot, Michael Strahan cameo, Firestorm as the most relevant movie today, Howie Long's acting career, Raiders leaving LA over gang affiliation, more post-credit scenes that movie, 20 Chinese production companies with terribly dated logos, Amazon counterfeit products, Hailee Steinfeld needed to be an angel, Djimon Honsou the coolest in The Island, K-Stew Lothario, Charlie Angel 3-way, target lesbians and horny men (alt. men), D.E.B.S. as a movie to copy, Frosty Polls!!, Laverne Cox as an angel that isn't allowed on since she isn't a woman(1:31:33) every Charlies Angels movie must have a creepy secondary male antagonist - Jonathan Tucker, Justin Thereux Crispin Glover, remembering the rebooted TV show with Minka Kelly, how Elizabeth Banks is wrong about men not wanting to see women action, make Kristen Stewart the new angel recruit not Naomi Scott, horror genre Charlies Angels, Shia LaBeuf's Holes jewfro, Elizabeth Banks pitch different than finished film, enjoying the opening scene(1:45:12) differences in how men & women fight, Mike Lowry punches with his elbows in Bad Boys, great way to pull your punches, Patrick Stewart is having a blast, how do you differentiate between all the Bosley's, would rather see a third Diaz Barrymore Liu triumvirate film than this spinoff, does everything need to be established IP? no one ever says "you know what would be fun, another Charlies Angels film"

(1:00) do you die every time you go to sleep, Nicolas Cage Jansen, Forrest's older brother, is Dr. Sleep the longest gap between sequel and original, is it a good idea to make sequels to cult classics, Stephen King writing a sequel book, the Outlook Overlook Hotel, Shining thoughts, Shelly Duvall is poop, why The Shining isn't that scary, if the creator's intention is for you to not connect with the people in it, Steven Weber starring The Shining Tv show(14:53) Dr. Sleep longer than The Shining, great preview especially Rebecca Ferguson, Ewen McGregor is the reason this movie didn't do well, looks like a movie star, hasn't aged, perfectly cast in Birds of Prey, McGregor isn't Broccoli, Tom Cruise as Dany Torrance, can Cruise do alcoholism, or Shia LaBeuf as the star perfect because of his demons, Angie Jolie as Rose the Hat, Zendaya starring in this film(29:44) Sequel pitch for Dr. Sleep 2 aka Kadabra, recasting actors from The Shining, Nicholson one was distracting and takes you out of the film, why do they go back to the Overlook at the end of the film, astral projection Rose the Hat floating through the sky, grocery stores are cinematic, sitcoms hurt by single cam, Bruce Greenwood for President, Gavin Newsom in Wall Street, superhero Mantis tv show, why didn't WB show a Dr. Sleep sneak peek before IT Chapter 2, Lethal Weapon 4 car chase, Mel Gibson eating doggie biscuits, why don't studios release more sneak peek trailers, the downside to AMC movies

Sparknotes Transcript(0:56) Will Carter disown his Jansen brother for his opinion on Maleficent 2, live action remakes vs new take from villains perspective, can we get a Jafar movie? lack of humor kills this movie, visually impressive, the preview with bad CGI compared to the film, nice seeing Jolie who does so few movies, Pfeiffer gets a fun role [that no one will remember fondly because the character is nonexistent], high hopes for Elle Fanning yet not particularly good in Galveston & Neon Demon, fits in a fairy tale, is this a feminist tale, are the roles juicy for female actresses, not one scene I'd watch again, everything Scorsece says about Marvel movies is actually true about these Disney cartoons(17:00) SURVEYING THE LANDSCAPE: comparing to Pirates 5, why didn't a woman direct these films, why did they put so much money into this, doesn't set up sequels or more world to mine, franchise running out of gas, how Disney missed an opportunity to make more money, More Universes, Marvel as the modern day fairy tale(27:08) DRILLING INTO THE ASTEROID: Aurora & her Groots, what does Maleficent do all day — stare at things, remembering the great thespian Brenton Theiwates, a teenage Jai Courtney, discovering secret lairs for no reason, Jolie & Pfeiffer should be on the same team, Maleficent a better Dark Phoenix than any X-Men, cutting all the fairy B Plot, side quest of a movie, Forrest not liking Fantasy but liking this movie, why is everyone British, dragons & Reign of Fire, Sean Connery voicing a dragon, enjoying the story because it was so pointless, Maleficent deserved to be framed, can't have the head guard end up alone, Race Wars with Dom Torretto(54:09) CASTING CALL: making David Gyasi Prince Phillip, Dakota & Elle Fanning both stuck in the adult/child in-between, will The Kingsman visual style carryover into Kingsman 3, Bad Boys 3 in January is a worrying sign as is the trailer, Warwick Davis still bringing his troll game, Nicole Kidman, turning this movie into female The Irishman for actresses over 50, Charlize back as Raveena(1:06:06) DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN: wanting to see Elle Fanning go dark, Pfeiffer as Satan, casting Nicole Kidman as a old Elle Fanning, sequel that is just one big Red Bull ad, Prometheus & Icarus combination, Maleficent becomes the beauty that sleeps, Cardi B in Fast 9

SPARKNOTES TRANSCIPT(0:26) Forrest's government name, reading Zip codes as if one number, the utch famous for their Blunt rolling papers, George Lopez wanting to build a wall to prevent Springbreakers from coming across into Mexico, was Ja Rule DMX's hype man, liking Jesse Eisenberg & Emma Stone only in Zombieland movies, Eisenberg in real life stories - Ugly Sweater Pub Crawls, Zombieland 1 thoughts, comedy - it's either incredibly clever or incredibly stupid, Deadpool series better because it has a movie star, not enjoying the zombie genre, trying to top Bill Murray(22:16) SURVEY THE LANDSCAPE: Zombieland TV Pilot with new cast playing the same characters, big NO NO, enjoying Adventureland, Rosario Dawson gets the award for being in a lot of sequels, cinematic sequel female viagra, give us Woody Harrelson & Rosario Dawson sex scene Zombieland 2! let's have a Zombie changing sex scene, so many Oscar nominees, Reuben Fleischer has no reason to be upset with Venom reaction, thoughts on his career, Superstore love(33:40) DRILLING INTO THE ASTEROID [plot breakdown]: Woody Harrelson presidential pardon to Wesley Snipes, Zoey Duetch hilarious pitching how ludicrous the idea for UBER is, Vampire Wesley Snipes in Zombieland 3, the message of the movie, smart and dumb people can be together, Super Zombies! Luke Wilson is a texan, seemed metropolitan compared to Owen Wilson, spinoff with the Wilson brothers, Woody as Elvis for the whole movie, great one shot action scene at the motel, Is I am Legend a Zombie movie? Ridley Scott & Arnold version of that film, climax with or without your main weapon, Bloodsport - could you get away with blinding your opponent(58:15) CASTING CALL: don't like when characters recast midstream - Dark Knight, Ironman 2. recasting Berkeley, being fans of Zoey Duetch, Patrick Swayze, Stallone, Dustin Hoffman, Bill Murray, Wesley Snipes, Where's Ryan Reynolds?!?!, Zombieland Prequel: Garfield 3, why is Al Roker doing movie interviews?(1:08:28) DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN: Zombieland movie centered around Bill Murray, Dumbo Drop with Ray Liotta, Bill Murray thinking Garfield movie written by a Coen Brother, Build the Zombieland-verse with spinoffs with Wilson brothers, let's revive Owen Wilson's career - set it in the Alamo, Wesley Snipes is a self-aware Zombie - half zombie & half man, actors less likely to sue since back end no longer in the contracts, only see in theater with AMC A-list, fans of Zombieland are zombie-like

Sparknotes Transcript:(0:35) Terminator: Sin Nombre 2, Diego Luna is not in this movie, thinking it was Diego after seeing the first preview, having Chameleon powers and not using them, retconning Terminator 3, 4, 5. does retconning work? Sarah Connor vs Laurie Strode in Halloween (2018), revisiting Maleficent 1 after seeing sequel, witches vs fairies, Jolie needing the black getup, remembering her giving a great performance but really just the one iconic scene, which she nails and makes the movie worth it, skipping the change in appearance, Far from Home worth it for one Gyllenhaal scene, Expendables is frivolous nonsense & poop, but worth it for the Church scene,(10:28) best scene in the film, 90s sitcom with a terminator, the big reason James Cameron got back involved with the franchise, Terminator 5 is a hodgepodge of nonsense, Deadpool creator, can you trust industry people with advanced screenings, Terminator 2 as the premier sequel, one of the great movies of all time, issues with computer effects, technology of today with drones doesn't led itself to a chase and evade terminator film, Junkie XL needs to go by Junkie XL for Terminator movies, the mysterious career disappearance of Brad Fiedel (composer of T1, T2, True Lies), McQ directing like he is Spike Lee with Lawrence Fishbourne & Thandie Newton back for MI7(14:31) SURVEY THE LANDSCAPE(23:41) Terminator Salvation Sam Worthington & Moon Bloodgood love, Frost going to the mat for Rise of the Machines, coming out of the theater hyped, fate or no fate, want to see a movie where more than one person's fate matters and some bystander turns out to be important, main cast are really mean, worst actor in the film goes to the Uncle(32:30) DRILLING INTO THE ASTEROID [plot breakdown]: de-aged Linda Hamilton & de-aged 8 yr old Edward Furlong, de-aged Arnold body double doesn't have the same build, undoing T2 with a bad opening, factory replacing workers with machine is a fun idea that needed to be explored more, mid-air drop after future travel, R rated movie trying to avoid nudity, augmented humans have no nipples, Mackenzie Davis is tall, subtitle for Guardians Vol 2 if it had one, Terminator: All Dong, T3 terminator was a downgrade from T2, Gabriel Luna acting joke, Natalia Reyes seems like Isabela Merced (previously Moner) aka Dora the Explorer(52:21) preview spoils the whole film, Linda Hamilton's Storm hairstyle, her marriage to James Cameron, watching future Mackenzie Davis in essentially Salvation 2, we miss Moon Bloodgood, no more forgetting sequels, how was Rocky 5 pitched, Dark Fate suffers the worst, no needing young people, T2 in '91 as the high watermark for special effects(1:09:27) Sin Nombre train scene, brief detour to talk about next Bond Villain rumors, border & people in cages politics but only on the periphery, using potato chip bags to scramble tracking ripped straight from Enemy of the State, parachuting from a helicopter a la A Team or Fast 7, are robots not slowed down by water, couldn't Joe Morton give them an EMP even though he died in T2, playing the same guy in Justice League, Arnold as the Brawny man, Does Bounty have a man, Arnold has a second family in the the woods, symbolic of his real life, Tom Brady coming out of spa as a dig on Robert Kraft(1:24:10) CASTING CALL: Raymond Cruz as the Uncle, Terminator with freckles, Austrian accent sounds like robotic, #BrightFate, could The Rock be a Terminator, Can you save our franchise! Will Smith vs Dwayne Johnson filmography, moviestar meant you'd get the best scripts & best directors, Seven Pounds as the beginning of the Prince's fall(1:32:33) DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN: Sarah Connor as a Terminator assassin is its own movie, Terminator film taking place the moment Judgement Day happens, the panic that ensues, the first terminators off the line, plus a terminator film where the person they must save is actually the person that creates the AI, we sympathize with the destroyer but know they must be killed, i Robot esque Terminator film, terrible titles since T2, Carter's intestines hurting from bad screenwritingFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Two of the great action movies to ever action crafted by the master of two guns & doves himself, John Woo. Would you have seen this movies without the Wu Tang Clan?

 Sparknotes Transcript:(1:20) The 2nd edition talking about an actual spiritual sequel, John Cleese regretting making Fierce Creatures, Do Dr. J & Dr. Dre have their doctorates, loving A Fish Called Wanda's opening credit sequence, Barrister & Esquire, Roman Israel, Kevin Kline needs facial hair, reddit page for people that enjoy French kissing men with facial hair, setting a comedy at a zoo has potential, whole story has no stakes, knowing the taste of other person's blood, Jamie Lee Curtis' love affair with a Gorilla, electric chemistry, pro-bestiality comedy, A Fish called Wanda 2, Nietzsche, William Goldman touching up the end(21:21) Worst part of A Fish called Wanda, pitching how to craft the sequel, Ocean's 12, pitch to fix Fierce Creatures, finding a theme with cute animals, dangerous animals aren't exciting sitting in a zoo, wanting remakes to bad movies that had a good concept, movies as a tight rope walk, comparing sequels to pizza, John Cleese's two biggest regrets including Fierce Creatures, Cary Lowell, shout out to American Cinematheque, 2nd run movies needs new brandingLinks Mentioned:http://www.americancinemathequecalendar.com/content/a-fish-called-wanda-fierce-creaturesFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Sparknotes Transcript:(0:27) What is a true Spiritual Sequel, Cotton Club Director's Cut, Is Forrest Moss a real name?, covering The Namesake film for the 47th time, director building up goodwill so we explain why a bad movie is good, The Counselor sucks, trying to bring back Godfather magic hurts Cotton Club, Fast & Furious mistakes lead to Fast Five greatness, why use minutes to describe movie length when we don't track time that way?, adding more Gregory Hines & his real life brother, James Remar as Dutch Schultz is in it too much & bad, trying to act like a 1930s actor, nice seeing Bob Hoskins, fun vibrant free wheelin & dealin footless & fancy free Richard Gere, fixing this film with a black & white love triangle, imagining Spike Lee crafting this film(23:44) worth seeing this version for the added tap dancing scenes, Gwen Verdon tap dancing for no reason at the end, Nicolas Cage as Richard Gere's brother, baby face Diane Lane, covering the movie Unfaithful as a Spiritual Sequel for Gere & Lane, Robert Evans was to direct it, Coppola forced to do this movie after One from the Heart failed, Godfather ruining his career, do spiritual sequels work?, Days of Thunder as a guilty pleasure, box office receipts for Coppola, how in the world was Pacino nominated for Dick Tracy?, Coppola's Marvel comments, why we love Marvel movies even when they aren't good, Deniro's blue contacts in The Irishman, Pacino looks like he is back in Devil's Advocate modeFollow Us:Include links to where listeners can find you online:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Sparknotes Transcript:(0:27) Spiritually Streaming Podcast Series explained, a sequel doctorate, which age group streams the most?, can a movie be shot for the small screen?, crafting a story knowing audience's attention is scattershot, losing the tone setter from opening credit scenes, attending The New Wave from Film Independent, free screenings, comparing Honey Boy with Mario Van Peebles BadAsssss, talking all time mirror shots in cinema, best shots of the year at the Oscars(11:46) 37 Seconds directed by Hikari, meeting someone and them not remembering you, does it need to be weird, differently abled actors, how to pronounce Cerebral Palsy, sex & disabled, Painless starring Tommie Sox, Peanut Butter Falcon, Split & Mental Illness, Joker mental illness, learning knowledge through movies, Turn & Hooch dog's TV vision, Manga incorporated in the film, streaming on Netflix, is one name good for a director?, women getting opportunity to direct, Alma Har'el's keynote speech, not able to get to next position without experience, documentary re-enactments, artful documentaries, streamers as curators of niche,(34:24) How Alma Har'el met Shia LaBeuf through a song in her documentary Bombay Beach and created Honey Boy, PTSD not from battle but childhood, the great FreeTheWork ad with sister Mozart, pitching our "Dueling Films" Series with Good Kill & Eye in the Sky, pitching Spiritually Sequelized series pitch, Beyond Fest, John Woo double feature, A Fish Called WandaLinks Mentioned:https://www.filmindependent.org/the-new-wave/https://freethework.com/Follow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Sparknotes Transcript:(0:00) The Original State edition of the podcast explained, Spotlight edition, Michael Keaton impression, Ruffalo in Darkwater aka Spotlight 2, Promised Land silly twist, all the versions of Superman that didn't get made, Oliver Stone making Mission Impossible 2(7:29) Surveying the Originally Cloned Landscape: Gemini Man, why make a 51 year old Will Smith look older, younger version looks like he's stuck in the 90's, de-aging fears, replacing dead actors into iconic roles, was this movie made to earn money?, is this so actors become expendable?, photo vs painting, stunts vs visual effects, uncanny valley between Bad Boys Will Smith vs De-aged Will Smith, Jon Favreau giving Visual effects team Stealth vs Top Gun, were plays and court jesters a entertainment narcotic given to the masses?(18:31) hearing Ang Lee & Jerry Bruckheimer speak at Collider IMAX screening, differences between shooting 2D vs 3D for lighting and depth purposes, 3D not really 3D, wearing the 3D glasses, Walter Merch essay on 3D and how movies already were 3 dimensions, does high frame rate need to be 3D?, great motorcycle scene looks real for the action but only if seen on right frame rate theater, 30fps vs 24fps, was the tech created for nature documentaries, tech could work in a Surrogate with Bruce Willis type world, digital filmmaking vs LED lightbulbs, Ang Lee doesn't like action or tech yet that's what he keeps doing, STOP MAKING ACTION MOVIES ANG LEE, PLEASE!, rollercoaster of expectations, giving Will Smith credit since harder to act in 120fps, did Mary Elizabeth Winstead realize she was in a thriller, forced sexual chemistry, Gemini Man 2 pitch involving a love triangle between two versions of yourself, Vin Diesel in a three way with a younger version of himself(48:38) Surveying a Hustlers Landscape, roll coaster of expectations, Wonder woman, Oscar talk for J-Lo, general audience reaction to the buzz, not enough hustling, not enjoying the ending, comparing to Goodfellas, is this an original movie?, Lord of War as a composite of a drug runner, William Goodman trying to crack Butch Cassidy, the twist at the end of Book of Eli(1:05:34) Surveying the rings of Neptune: Ad Astra, a movie with only extreme conflict all the time yet not suspenseful, can't have a protagonist with a BPM below 80, bored voiceover narration interview, one of the best mute films, just beautiful, wanting to like The Pitt yet not being able to connect, defending what the studio did to Mimic, does Brad Pitt's character change at all, give us more Liv Tyler, why can't she star in a space movie, The Arrival starring spikey haired Charlie Sheen, imagining him as Matt Dillion's character in Wild Things(1:18:57) Surveying the international landscape: Takashi Miike's First Love, great SUV scene involving drug usage through gun shot wounds, incorrect diagnosis that you will die soon actually beneficial, wanting to write & direct the American adaptation, changing the title like True RomanceFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Joker (1:30) Our Joker reactions, how this story gives us a different take on the Wayne family, if Thomas Wayne is so great why is Gotham portrayed as falling apart, Batman's response, ridding a city of organized crime doesn't mean no crime, movies influencing our perceptions not our actions, how did Todd Phillips describe Zazie Beetz's character to her, disappointed by fantasies, wanting movie to deal with it(9:35) SURVEYING THE LANDSCAPE: Jared Leto only Joker for one film, why Todd Phillips needed to transition into comic book movies, realizing Bradley Cooper was a star was Coppola-esque, Hangover 3 lays the groundwork for Joker, not a good comedy but shows style, loving Marc Maron & wanting more of him, his response to Phillips saying Woke Culture killed comedy, taking a date to trans night without realizing, rude & lude comedy that's tame today, doesn't matter where the line is in comedy, just need to cross it, wealthy vs poor, giving back opportunity wise(21:24) enjoying the film for the heady conversation it elicits, Jimmy Kimmel Joker Phoenix awkward interview, was the rapper mockumentary performance art?, figuring out how to play Joker until shooting, usually finding out how iconic character was formed hurts the character, not the case here, stacking the deck against Joker, giving him no hope, can you measure who has the most insecurities, not sure this character is complicated(33:53) DRILLING INTO THE ASTERIOD: are clowns & stand-up comedians at all similar?, impressed by guys that spin signs, were Clowns scary pre-Stephen King's IT, forced smiles, quality of Joker's journal, evoking King of Comedy, having De Niro switch roles, Thomas Wayne running for Mayor, Forrest's career as a sit-down comedian, how to make it as a stand-up, laughing only because its awkward, violence vs compassion cycles, don't view criticism as love, only praise viewed as love, intense train shooting scene, Joker & Batman being half-brothers is a great twist, both Bruce & Joker wanting the same thing: the same father, make sane person go mad through constant doubting of the truth, obsessive search for the truth also leading to madness, In the Shadow of the Moon Netflix movie, Cleopatra Coleman love, Philly movie not shot in Philly, unrealistic cheesesteak making, Bruce Wayne is isolated introvert with absentee father, Guy Ritchie Alfred Pennyworth, trusting women, writing process for this film(1:08:40) Insane Clown Posse Riots, Robin Hood act, Is Thomas Wayne running as a republican or as a democrat?, Sam Morril doing his own stand-up bit in the film, least cool joker of all the jokers, little person humor, his iconic dance move, Bill Camp's incredible performance on Night of, M. Night Shamaylan comic book movie, becoming the joker like a caterpillar to a butterfly, Bruce Wayne's parents death after joker riots instead of dumb coincidence, Pearls as a representation of greed,if the movie ended with Joke dancing on the car, cut Arkham scene, different viewpoints on the ending(1:32:14) CASTING CALL: Dicaprio as Joker, Alec Baldwin as Thomas Wayne, loving Baldwin but too funny even when not trying to be, not right for this film, can you compare this Joker to other iterations, Joss Wheldon defending comic book movies without mentioning his own(1:36:36) DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN: Joker 2 ideas & The Riddler film, can you not be politically motivated, trying to take politics out of sports, shooting a sports movie like its a war, battle for the soul of Gotham vs another batman villain, TV Show Gotham, Jokes vs Riddles, Riddler influenced by and friends with Joker, Lex Luthor movie, Joachim's tribute to his brother River at TIFF, are method actors ever really themselves, is all life a performance

(2:34) The timing of JOKER, why its the perfect movie for this podcast, most critics go in to a sequel with a cynical take, same week Scorsese says comic book movies aren't cinema, we get the Scorsese-verse, something Marvel doesn't do in its film, That 70's movie, how Only Built for Cuban Linx 2 by Raekwon connects to sequels, Paul Newman to Stephen Baldwin continuing the Slapshot Franchise, Wu Tang Clan's 8 Diagrams as growth, does Joker get away with any crimes if set in modern day, the death of cinema, Marvel as myths(17:21) what makes a film cinematic, least cinematic movie: The Expendables, how we watch 80's action movies, Too much self-awareness, watching Larry David and Woody Allen hangout, what is cinema? what is art? What is music?, does art need to be good to be art?, Can you view art made by bad people, Is Hitler a failed artist?, why can't we have negative art, seeing art in everything, art & crime as a response, Overview Satellite images look like paintings, underrated film Revolver, making a different movie like Mother!(27:42) Happy Joker was made, can movies incite violence, Stanford study on how the media covers shootings, pushing different narratives, suppressing anger in the suburbs, Joker inadvertently starts wealth war, Does Aurora shooting theater still play movies on that screen, turning murder into an attraction, serial killer love, The Killing Joke comic book(37:53) If you follow anybody they would be sympathetic, Venom & Maleficent as heroes masquerading as anti-heroes, Castor Troy in Face/Off, Ed Kemper on Season 2 of Mindhunter, The Iceman, focusing on bad people rather than giving victims attention, does glorifying violence lead to more violence, after columbine censorship with PG-13 glorifies violence by not showing full effects, Hip Hop censorship, isn't criticism the purest kind of democracy, Medhi Hasan's deconstructed podcast on looking at public officials positives and negatives after death(49:02) How we viewed Michael Jackson after he died, our over-praising of celebrities, audiences apprehension to clapping, why clap if the creators aren't in the theater

Shazam discussion commences — 3:36Nostalgia used to be a dog whistle — 13:10The Rock having supperpowers makes too much sense. The Rock's characters being bad at their job since he's too busy working out— 19:02Carter quick pitches his Black Adam character study. Black Adam vs Shazam like Godzilla vs King Kong — 24:07Commentary on a very Fake Philly, why can't Den of Thieves take place in Atlanta?, chubby as a personality trait — 27:17Connection to the film US, if an uprising happened the West Coast would go first, Shazam as Trump, Shazam saves the energy crisis, humans as battery chargers, Wifi as a superhero: introducing Marvel's newest superhero, Hotspot — 34:17Shazam as a mea culpa for George Miller's botched Justice League — 42:17CGI in Disney cartoon adaptations makes them not look live-action, advertising Taco Bell beef now with Sawdust, Coconut Oil's best purpose as a lubricant — 47:41Frost describes his first college experience, Carter ridicules college buffets — 54:31Give us more Meagan Good as a super-heroine Hollywood!!! and even more Live-Action Lupita!!! — 1:03:29Any changes we'd pitch plus the Megan Good Spinoff and the inverse of BIG in the film little— 1:05:49Follow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

(0:25) Watching all content as if its a sequel, Tulsi Gabbard vs Nikki Haley, is the Fallen Trilogy really a franchise?, making a stand-alone sequel, Theory on why we remember Mike Banning's bland name, Getting lost in Gerard Butler's eyes, impressed by his American accent, figured he would have been like Jason Statham, how Gerry is great in a terrible Olympus has Fallen, who could have directed the sequel London Has Fallen, the impatience within Proud Mary, one of the best qualities of 90s action flicks, remembering Don't Say a Word, Gary Fleeter(12:56) if Olympus has Fallen was on the black list, would that end the black list?, Peppermint posits that the American judicial system is geared to protect black & brown people and only a white mother can stop them, GANGBUMPERS!, smart move by Angel to hire Robert Mark Kamen — The Professional, Karate Kid, Fifth Element, The Transporter — Forrest shares hanging out with him at his vineyard, writing to keep hobby of drinking wine alive, Titanic only created so James Cameron could see the actual ruins, creators viewed Angel as their Logan in this series, is the Wolverine series a series? Or just three straight reboots(20:33) Antoine Fuqua's fascinating, idiosyncratic filmography, Cinema Duel: similar concept, released same year, Die Hard on a X, Air Force One is the least interesting idea, do we need a realistic president being an action star... only in a graphic novel, Mel Gibson as the president stabbing people with the flag [The Simpsons], our 1st shirtless president, comparing how well shot Bait & Equalizer are compared to the drab 70mil tv movie that is Olympus, was there no color correction, Millennium's logo looks cheap, Sony concedes loss on White House Down by hiring Fuqua for Equalizer, Gerry Butler vs Denzel Washington(29:16) James Bond films action scenes shot by the second unit, main director only handles the dramatic moments, Directing by spinning a wheel on what shot will be selected, London voted worst movie of that year, a recycled foreign sequel, A- Cinemascore for Olympus makes you distrust Cinemascore... or people(32:22) Reason to like Movie lists, comparing the artist with the critic, are top 10 lists in order or just 10 favorite films, the books or DVDs on your shelf say something about you [only if your over 25](33:54) DRILLING INTO THE ASTEROID [plot breakdown]: opening of Angel was what Gamer should have looked like, 3rd person shooter, how Crank seems more like a video game than Gamer, knowing who the bad guys are because they are played by actors that are always villains, creating twists that don't really matter & the movie knows it, Danny Huston & Gerry Butler would never be war buddies, Was Danny Huston mocking Gerry from 300 by saying "we are Lions", previous sequels taking their toll... like Rocky 5 only good... except they never mention him saving the president after Gerry is framed for attempting to assassinate him, enjoying Kamikaze drones, killing the president for a quick payoff is a ludicrous motive, Is this film the prequel to Law Abiding Citizen, using technology effectively, Mentioning Russian election interference, Does Gerry represent America in this Franchise, Say how great we are but we are crippled by Opiates & concussions from past deeds(49:34) Gerry is much more American than other British actors, although would have been a good Sean Connery type Bond, Hollywood has let Gerard Butler down, not someone that works on his craft, Nick Nolte putting in work!, watching Mindhunter gives us the ability to see that Nolte leaving Gerry as a kid made Mike Banning the ravaging killer he is today, having enough mines to burn down all of West Virginia(57:06) all time nicest henchman in an action film, lines meant just for the audience not making sense within context, movie trope with Jada being saved by Gerry...only they pull a reversal and kill JADA!!! is oxygen visible?, changes to ending, LIONS!. post credits stinger that tonally didn't fit but not mad at even if it went on too long, Joe Rogan hyperbaric chambers, Cole Hauser and his funny walk in Olympus, Dylan McDermott knows what movie he is in, the entire score is the climax to Air Force One, sounded like the flag walking down Washington Blvd, quitting is okay, poor representation of women in 1st Fallen(1:12:26) Bring Angela Bassett back! Make her the big bad!, the more serious one has no Aaron Eckart, thank god!, casting Hostel 2 actors as the Vice-President, DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN: John Lithgow as incompetent president, Gerry Butler has to decide between the president and the country, Gerry Butler's upcoming slate of films, the sand epic genre!Follow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

Sparknotes Transcript:(0:57) This podcast is a dialogue after movie, getting a slice of pie True Romance style, recording right near that diner, did Netflix secretly make Rambo to ruin the theater experience?, not wanting to see Rambo, loving Schlock, ridiculous 08' Rambo look, comparing him to Andrew Dice Clay, how should old people dress? To change or not to change(7:58) First Blood book by David Morrell, Dustin Hoffman as Rambo in the Jungle, can iconic characters change appearance, do action figures still drive movies?, seeing Last Blood after not seeing any other Rambo films, sequel not actually about American Exceptionalism, main opponent is a government bureaucrat, film really about soldier perspective after Vietnam, Veteran perceived as a Hippie, veteran vs cops(21:27) Last Blood could have dealt with Border issues, winning the Cold War, pro-veteran, anti-American message of the 1st film, Stallone's father making fun of his Rocky 1 physique leading to Rambo 2 & 3, is he really a conservative hero?, Rambo Force of Freedom cartoon actually looks cool, Robocop cartoon, then movies turn into cartoons, tough to occupy and instill rules abroad when we can't uphold internally, outsiders see our contradictions(30:47) Stallone has two iconic characters in the history of film, not many other action stars or star stars can say that, if Rocky had a film career he'd star in Rambo, Paulie choosing these movies for him, why couldn't he play Rambo in The Expendables, poor transition in Last Blood between self-aware action & soap opera drama, how did Stallone write this?, Luc Besson with Columbiana, a true spiritual sequel, or spinoff, James Cameron's involvement in First Blood part 2 same time as Aliens, Had two separate desks for each project(41:37) Rambo as Frankenstein's Monster and Frankenstein is America, politics directed at soldiers, torture doesn't work, Catch a Fire love, Traitor vs Higher Learning, Rambo protects but also needs protection himself, climax to end first film is all talking, David Caruso, tunnels as a metaphor for what's happening within Rambo(53:30) DRILLING INTO THE ASTEROID: why did he build these tunnels?, 10 years planning for final fire fight, seems well adjusted, Chekov's gun question: gives niece a knife... never uses it, Damascus steel, sex trafficking brothers, best moments from Last Rambo, enjoyed Stallone's performance, just love the guy, unique presence, blaming 80s for brainwashing our iconic characters, Adrien Brody in Predators lacked action star presence, Stallone's vulnerability is rare in an action star, Steven Seigal had zero vulnerability, Stallone's large ego yet can play the fool(1:08:57) the ultimate gorilla war fighter impulsively goes into Mexico with only a knife & pistol, nearly dies, tearing out a man's collarbone, Rambo as a Slasher flick, The Hatchet films, slasher for the new age, end felt meta, Carter's Stallone impression is really just Drago, deaths in this like Mortal Kombat fatalities, Bulgarian Favelas, John killing Johns, why have a journalist in the movie who doesn't do any journaling!, how does he cross the border with a dying teenage girl in the passenger seat, kills the big bad off screen, Road head joke, Seeing old man Stallone sped up footage, shooting people after they are dead, caves of convenience, how Rambo got his name, Rambo in Japanese, shooting playing cards with an arrow, what's the significance?, ripping a man's heart out, better music for murdering than partying(1:28:01) David Morrell's thoughts on Last Blood, Stephen King describing book adaptations to film can be like creating Frankenstein's monster, angry to deer-like, getting PTSD from seeing Rambo 5, flipping the Equalizer sociopath switch, movie ends with montage of all Rambo films including the FILM YOU JUST WATCHED!, rescuing a 6 pack of beer(1:35:15) no casting call for this dreadful film, DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN: Godfather Part 2 style prequel slash sequel for Rambo & his niece, Elizabeth Warren as Rambo's Aunt, Theo James as a young Stallone, is this film Trump's Fantasy, Is Stallone on Arnold's team or Trump's team, Rambo 4 brings up Burmese Genocide, people there thanked Stallone for the global awareness, Spotlight 2: Rambo reveals the Burmese Genocide, Rambo in Space!, De-Aged 80s Stallone vs Old Man Stallone using time travel, James Cameron had a John Travolta side-kick in Rambo 2, John Travolta as the White National villain in Rambo 5Follow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

(0:30) don't waste spaghetti, box office receipts high for Forrest so our parents had a romantic production meeting for a sequel, our unique brotherly perspective, Forrest refers to 6 Rocky movies as a trilogy, Rocky Balboa & Jason Bourne titles, Die Hard 4.0, Die Hard 2: Die Harder, retconning Rocky, Ian Fleming, Transformers, _Mission Impossible_has video game titles, long titles for clicks(13:03) comparing Creed 2-3-4 to Rocky 3, Rocky completely different character in third film, a reboot, Rocky reading ads improves from 2 to 3, terrible taste improves too, far too much information conveyed in _Rocky 3_opening montage, funny Mr. T impression (19:20), what's the theme?, why is Mickey his trainer for the Hulk Hogan fight, Rocky can't say "No", _The Big Hit,_why not open with Creed-Balboa III or bought up(24:13) Rocky doesn't win at the end of Rocky 2, bad poker in Casino Royale, Milo Ventimiglia looks like Sage Stallone, neither looks like Sly, out of nowhere retirement, Rocky 5 is bad bad, a movie about his son not Rocky, Carl Weathers acting up a storm, better at everything compared to Rocky = Apollo should fight Clubber,(33:26) Rocky doesn't know to punch!, rather watch a buddy cop movie with these two, hospital scene in Rocky 2, two Spyders, Muhammad Ali said kids would run with him through the streets, Rocky is Mark Wahlberg in Invincible, peaking early, not remaining a star long-term, Burt Reynolds, Cops and Robbersons& Striptease, what a hunk in Shark, Cop Out(40:04) Mickey is Jewish revelation, "for the first time in my life I'm afraid" scene KO's Frost, super zoom jangling crotch shots, glazed thighs, shirtless Tony Burton, return the favor(43:55) Rocky 4 is a great hour & half montage, Rocky 3 montage could be an entire movie, X-Men: Apocalypse montage of Professor X & Magneto, great music score, love a Rocky beard, why did it take so long to make a fifth chapter, why so different from Chapter 4, Cliffhanger,(49:40)Sly's batshit filmography, losing his serious actor cred, cocaine on a strip of celluloid, trying to prove himself in Copland, Arnold never tried to direct or write or be serious, fifth chapter is a course correct back to original Rocky, almost retconning last 2 films, hard to think of sequel diverting so much from previous entry so much after a box office smash hit, when does Rocky fight all these fights?,(59:08) Story structures for first four chapters, 4>3, hero can't lose early, trainers dying back, love to Apollo vs Clubber, Clubber vs Rocky II wouldn't happen after 1st fight obliteration, emotions and boxers, Tyson with Chlamydia was even better boxer,(1:03:50) Tyson in a Rocky film, Clubber only throws telegraphed hooks, hard to teach boxers to act like teaching oil drillers to be astronauts, Tyson myths like Chuck Norris, why pick boxers to be actors, Roy Jones Jr., Antonio Tarver,(1:07:00) Rocky 1st block of career in third film, growth from Rocky over the series, icon Rocky heel as a desirable role for a actual actor, Michael B's muscles, easier now to be strong, Chris Evans or Hemsworth in next Creed, Human Torch vs Human Torch, Australian fighter, Stallone's writing process, Stallone's star making turn in a background role(1:14:22) Clubber Lang's son for Creed 3, no more sons!, PTI, everyone watching a CGI fight in Rocky Balboa, did Rocky predict esports?,Ali vs Tyson, Fight Night, Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Tyson's career of bums similar to Rocky's easy fights in Rocky 3(1:23:30) How to fix Rocky 3 & 5, can you start a film with a montage?, need Rocky's permission to take Mickey to the hospital, who's keeping score in third Apollo vs Rocky fight(129:58) boxing scoring makes no sense, imagine football with scoring revealed at the end and no lines on the field, can you make Rocky 5 worse, cocaine fueled montage from 3 & 4Follow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

(1:00) Which Title do you prefer: 47 Meters Down: Uncaged, 47 Meters Down 2 or 48 Meters Down?, Where was Nicolas Cage?, Motion Capture Sharks like Cumberbatch in The Hobbit(4:00) SURVEY THE LANDSCAPE (film landscape and context going into the release): 47 Meter Franchise, William Goldman's Butch Cassidy well timed, surprising amount of shark films, audience reaction from Deep Blue Sea, Does The Meg_count as a Shark Movie? Does Nicolas Cage host this podcast? Is he a Jansen Brother?, _Shark Lake_with Dolph Lundgren, does Dolph motion capture as the Shark? (12:25 clip), James Woods on the Tv show _Shark, Can people only deal with one monster movie per season?, Are Sharks considered part of the monster genre? Batman as the monster, Don't Breathe's Stephan Lang plays the Sharks in 47M Down 2, Does anyone want to see Blind toxic waste colored sharks?, Neil Marshall's odd career, how terrible is Doomsday?, Blame original's line producer for this sequel, Carter's frustration with The Shallows, James Van Der Beek as Mandy Moore's Ex(25:47) 47 Meters Down story, Matthew Modine running a Mexican off the books Shark boat, tapping into the fear of Sharks, Humans evolved from the water, Is that why we have a desire to return to the water, is 47 Meters Down a top thriller?(36:04) Is this a break-up movie, does Mandy Moore have a Save the Cat moment?, comparing Mandy Moore to Liv Tyler in Strangers(42:03)DRILLING INTO THE ASTEROID (sequel plot breakdown): beautiful opening, why is our main character being bullied?, Daughter of Jamie Foxx, Great White Shark Watching Tour, "Topless" Jeep, Daughter of Sly Stallone having a Stallone cadence, scuba gear similar to a space suit(54:34) challenging CGI similar to Godzilla: King of the Monsters, the mind-blowing great CGI Sharks in the 1st film, do blow torches work underwater?, gaining knowledge at the Hard Rock, hard to make massive, slow sharks cool in tiny caves, John Corbett's performance as the highlight of the film, making your Sharks less scary in the sequel(1:02:48) using the blindness for more scares, how the Sharks were like Ryan Lochte on 30 Rock, Lochte pity, sharks doing a barrel roll while tearing a person in half, Deep Blue Sea style death plus laughing at a film, strobe light sonar scene is a worth a watch, discounting the 1st film as just a shark film, actually a well-crafted thriller, how the ending is like Crank, Guess this look based off audio(1:20:41) Not really a sequel, silly monster movie trope, Is Happy Gilmore a monster movie?, Would you watch the Chubbs movie?, on your edge of your seat... to walk out of a bad movie, glad we stuck through, how the sequel could have been a continuation of the 1st film(1:26:10) CASTING CALL (who would you cast?) Why isn't Piper Perabo a bigger star?, _The Cave 2: Uncaged,_Lena Headey & Piper as lesbians, Nia Long featured sequel, finding an actress that can flip the switch between I am in danger & I am the danger(1:36:54) DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN (pitch a way to continue the franchise): continuing 1st films story like how the fourth fast & Furious was a direct sequel to 1st film, boat sinks, should the sequel be like Open Water, Shark POV, Michael Mann shot Shark 3rd-person, glimpse of best scene in trailer, Nicolas Cage as a great white shark tour boat guide in MexicoFollow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

(10:21) A lawless world with so many unbreakable rules. Ian McShane as a Devil, why he didn't work in Pirates 4, Blackbeard lighting his beard on fire, how many people has John Wick killed, comparing JW to 80's Slasher icons, how quickly he becomes mythical, John Wick as Michael Jordan on the Wizards, Chapter 3 introducing fanboy assassins, Is that a first in movies?(27:29) Chapter 1 plot, Steven Seagal vs John Wick, On Deadly Ground vs Glimmerman vs TimeCop vs Die Hard baddies,(32:54) the whole series as a video game or graphic novel, Call of Duty! Duck Hunt joke! The Punisher failings, Desperado as a Charismatic Frank Castle(37:42) Tom Cruise vs Keanu Reeves, humor within action, forget John Wick is suppose to be old since Keanu looks so young, a prequel in 20 years called John Wick: The Impossible Task(44:01) Violence in movies, what our Dad taught us, University of Miami showcase, Venezuela documentary, censoring us to violence & shootings,(51:21) The positives of glorifying serial killers, does the film endorse pencil murders, guns as a drug, Chapter 2 problems, Where's John Leguizamo???, What's his mission?, Luis Buñuel, the Kuleshov effect(1:08:45) Appreciation for Keanu, Judo & Aikido, Derek Kolstad, Tasmanian Continental(1:24:58) Eva Longoria, Kingsman vs John Wick, Sandra Bullock as his dying wife, neurotic men in cars getting coffee, Where's Monica Bellucci when you need her?, Charlize Theron, Love V vs. Love Triangle explained,(1:30:29) Intense debate on Blood Oaths, no more Microsoft AI commercials with Common, Ruby Rose letdown, acting while Mute, Rinko Kukuchi, Pencil death, Boban fight, 76ers!!! Dennis Rodman, Terrell Owens peripheral vision(1:42:20) "Not an ad" Ad for Champagne-flavored gummy bears, terrible marketing, saving people from Malaria through purchases, Jordani!, John Wick action scenes like a never-diminishing drug, would have stayed for 30+ more minutes(1:54:52) Chapter 4 pitch, Crossover ideas, an all-female High Table, Halle in Monster's Ball 2, Keanu as Mr. Franchise, Speed 2 based off a dream, Craig T. Nelson playing Donald Trump in Devil's Advocate & living in Trump's actual apartment(2:05:06) Tom Cruise as head of LA Continental, Chapter 4 pitch, Crossover between John Wick and...

Sparknotes Transcript:(1:18) SURVEYING THE LANDSCAPE [backstory]: Splitting books into two movies, Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 1 is a chess movie, A short book The Hobbit becomes a trilogy, IT naturally has two films: Child & Adult, IT novel known for its exceptional length, Shogun TV reboot at FX, spending so much of your life reading a book that you have to deny if its actually bad, Transformers movies should be 90 minutes long max, bullies carving a boys stomach [too much], physical manifestation of fear using a clown proxy biting off children's arms [give me more!], Derry 2016 identical to Derry 1986(7:17) Chapter two works as a standalone, how all of the Losers are audience surrogates due to memory loss, reading the book first, being too faithful to the text, the Old Spice guy with a dramatic turn, Tim Curry Pennywise was a big deal, comparing Pennywise vs The Joker, memory from childhood shifting opinions of a performance, grappling with loyalty to Tim Curry while watching Chapter 1, not so in this Chapter, similar with Jack Nicholson when watching The Dark Knight, Clowns are like Sharks, IT was in development hell for years, Bill Skarsgard shot a deleted scene as a Proto-pennywise preying on Native Americans(18:24) A thriller that's too thrilling, craziest part of the novel, Why we see so much throw up in this film, the only way to beat a bully is to bully a bully, repetitive scenes one after another, why we were more engaged in Chapter 2, what genre is this film, most horror is fun not scary, Is Event Horizon a spiritual sequel to IT? Pennywise goes to space!, trying to make sense of IT's powers(26:52) comparing pennywise's incompetence to The Joker always being a step ahead, The Joker messing up his own plan so he can keep playing with Batman, we as the audience want to see them keeping battling forever so we are aligned with the villain, Can you be an iconic villain if you are in most of the film |Hannibal, The Joker, Beetlejuice|, problems with Pirates 3, Jack Sparrow can't be the hero, he's the Vince Vaughn, Pennywise as the main character a la Dr. Evil(32:28) 1990 version silly spider ending like ending of The Dark Knight with Two Face, Epilogues are pointless, CGI was laughable on Aaron Eckert, belonged in The Mummy, The Dark Knight Rises is the Hateful Eight of the Nolan Batmans, building up goodwill with the fans, what if Jimmie Johnson directed Hateful Eight, Man Law, mocking Stephen King endings, an author's stream of consciousness, orgies, sex as the divider between childhood & adulthood, balloon under the hospital bed scare, Ransone takes a blade to the face with no flinch whatsoever(44:21) Cary Fukanaga's IT script, Legend of Zorro with Robert Rodriguez, cut RR out over budget constraints, could have been a Desperado Spiritual Prequel, ended up going over budget anyway, watching other directors direct like Fincher on Mindhunter, Casey Affleck vs Ben Affleck, best Andrew Domenik shot in Jesse James, throwing brothers under the bus to prove we are impartial, can't be surrounded by Yes Men, Team Forrest vs Team Carter, being on Team Jacob for Twilight is like being on the Washington Generals(52:33) IT has a love triangle, Ben is a reformed fat guy, hard to root for reformed fat guy since McAvoy & Chastain have such a history together, Forrest reveals Gone Girl as the worst movie he has seen in his life, Ben Affleck cast to play himself but fails, Gillian Flynn creating awful women characters, talking what we can and can't write, confirming stereotypes vs wanting to be an individual, when studio execs said black movies don't travel abroad but didn't count Denzel & Will Smith movies(1:02:51) Tying our discussion on sex & race back to IT, Xavier Dolan, Jac Shauffeur vs Jamie Foxx, people don't like remakes of iconic characters, enjoying Thomas Crown Affair remake over original, can't remake Red Dawn because it was made for that time not now, people love to watch clowns in movies, not hire clowns in real life, McDonald's drive thru story, wanting a Big Mac well done(1:14:22) DRILLING INTO THE ASTEROID [Plot Breakdown]: Animal crackers on Liv Tyler's belly, using animal crackers for foreplay, animal crackers are cookies!! Not crackers!!!, Bird of Prey teaser of the teaser, Pennywise in the DCEU, Justice League vs IT, legal subliminal messaging, filming an exclusive fake-out Harley Quinn scene, dumping sequels in January & February, Spring of '97 Face//Off had a scene just for marketing, Do these places not recover in the 27years between IT appearances, does he only have a full calendar year to feed on fear?(1:27:54) all the losers from a small town in Maine are leaders of industry in very competitive fields, Derry Maine would be studied for research into success, should be thanking Pennywise, Stephen King offered to write A Nightmare on Elm Street, King wanted to create a troll that lived within the sewer system, Pennywise using Freddy Krueger, in the novel he uses Mummy, Frankenstein, Dracula, Wolfman(1:42:09) McAvoy's backstory was in a different movie, five catch up scenes are worst part of film, hard to pull off a movie within a movie, Chinese restaurant scene, loving fortune cookies, David Goyer's Ghost Rider script, believing in fate & destiny, The Matrix 20th Anniversary, don't need fortune cookie monsters, great Child murder jump scare, ballon popping jump scare, Mike is very presentable for an obsessive guy living in the attic of a library...because he uses Swagger Old Spice body wash, artifact searching scenes are the fun & games, Skarsgard applying makeup in an all time shot, Paul Bunyan as the ultimate gay icon, no more visible throw up in my movies...just need the noise(2:05:13) Comedic music choice with Eddie against the Leper, smoking in school, evil Beverly, smoking is only cool in school, Mike doesn't get a flashback for his artifact, creepiest scene in the film: the De-aging clubhouse, have we ever seen de-aged Child actors, laughing at the film during McAvoy grabbing that kid & shouting at him to leave this town, zero people in Derry outside of the Carnival, McAvoy riding on his old bike is the funniest unintentional moment, interacting with younger self, giant spider Pennywise, making Pennywise smaller through lack of fear, Trump as Pennywise, Forrest sleeps during the epilogue, epilogue's in movies suck in general(2:27:57) CASTING CALL: McAvoy & Chastain know how to kiss on camera, yet recast McAvoy, great casting for children to adults looking alike, Sophie Lillias to Amy Adams to Jessica Chastain, Where's Adam Brody?, Wanting the Adam Brody-essance, all commercial actors casting(2:39:50) DEVELOPMENT HEAVEN: spinoff in 2016 with 80s Horror icons, prequel from Fukanaga, or a Pennywise as the main character, or IT vs IT!!! Tim Curry IT vs Bill Skarsgard IT vs Will Poulter IT [original Pennywise actor before Fukanaga left] vs Alexander Skargard IT, Westworld has two third brothers [Hemsworth & Skarsgard, created by a third brother]Freddy vs Pennywise [who can scare more people!!!]Follow Us:Our WebsiteSubscribe on Apple PodcastsTwitterMediumFacebook

(1:00) first X-Men movie not named X-Men, smart move Jackman missing this one, does the Dark Phoenix comic saga translate, changing channels with eyes mutant power, scrolling on Netflix, jostling around, Captain Marvel similarities, two '90 movies, Why aren't these characters old, want to see what aged X-Men between Dark Phoenix & X-Men 1, aging theory from Days of Future Past to fix the timeline!(12:31) Doctoring Dark Phoenix version #1, Apocalypse creates full nuclear disarmament, not so Apocalypse after all, creating a worldview only through television, downfall of Nightcrawler, X-Men attractiveness, James Marsden has charisma, bland actors becoming charismatic actors, two X-Men in Tragedy Girls, Jennifer Lawrence a bad actor if only basing off X-Men, thankfully we have David O. Russell movies, poorly used Mystique powers, Zoe Kravitz as Mystique, ugly uniforms, First Class only good scene is a brief Jackman cameo, Matrix leather costumes in first X-Men, Matthew Vaughan wanted Future's Past to be the trilogy ender, Tron with mutants, Oscar Isaac at Cinemacon, Vin Diesel as Apocalypse(27:05) defending Apocalypse, value in bad sequels, McAvoy going from drug addict to funny man to villain, his fear on two fronts, Is Nichols Hoult a good actor?, color changes in A Single Man, Tesla, blonde hair, lack of chemistry between Lawrence & Hoult, film only interesting considering production issues(34:54) Why is Jessica Chastain in this movie?, The Huntsman, love of Emily Blunt as an ice queen, Huntsman>Snow White,* hard for directors to convey tone, why a movie watch list given out, Kirsten Stewart as a James Marsden type [bland to charismatic](39:51) did Fox sabotage the film knowing it was Disney's loss, pushed back so Captain Marvel came out first, Simon Kinberg said ending was structured off of Captain America: Civil War, Sophie Turner is a star, why not focus solely on Jean Grey like Logan, why did that movie cost so much?, researching schizophrenia & dissociative personality disorder, doing bad things and it feels good, Stanford Prison Experiment & power dynamics, melding into groupthink & roles(46:50) digesting a film over time, low expectations, heavy dramatic music without building drama from previous iterations, loving Hans Zimmer's score, refusing to do comic book movies [temporarily], comparing versions of Spiderman, Amazing Spiderman mumblecore humor, Tom Holland as the 1st Peter Parker due to him looking young, what will Marvel do with X-Men in MCU, LSD X-Men, Total Rekall Stan Lee Cameos(53:03) Dark Phoenix=Captain Marvel, issue with female superheroes having undefinable powers, Storm has become Raiden, is Storm to blame for climate change, Skrulls suppose to be in Dark Phoenix, woman Don Draper(57:07) Magneto's storyline, island of outcast mutants, Hans Zimmer's desire to score every superhero character in existence, making music for 7th film in a series, his great understudies: Harry Gregson-Williams, Ramin Djawadi,Nick Glennie-Smith, John Powell, Marc Streitenfeld, collab w/ Pharrell & Junkie XL & Benjamin Wallfisch, Hans Zimmer as a brand name(1:03:09) why do the same storyline twice with the same guy to fix it, franchise shepherd, "a beautiful lie" from Batman v Superman is a great track, what really brought Hans Zimmer back, he's the best, are superhero movies a genre?, purple alien cloud diminishes story about mental breakdown, page vs screen, The Last Stand scene is great (even though we remember it differently), cafe at end of Dark Phoenix identical to cafe at the end of The Dark Knight Rises, the cafe of superheroes(1:11:12) opening identical to Shazam!, is every scene stolen from a different superhero film?, keep mother's death by Jean a secret to both her & the audience, not using Quicksilver right, Quicksilver Apocalypse> Quicksilver Future's Past(1:15:12) script doctor pitch time, smaller movie with Jean as the focale, why not start right after Apocalypse, nukes floating around in outer space, last week on... X-Men, mutants as fugitives on the run, genre diversification, changing how she murders her mom, seeing from Dad's point of view, Wanda Maximoff, Quicksilver MCU vs Quicksilver Fox, making mutants the majority(1:23:20) casting Scarlett Witch [little girl in Future's Past], other pitch based off House of M comic saga, retconning Apocalypse, Magneto as an absentee father, understanding reality, Magneto as the President, a Führer, becoming what he hates most, Elizabeth Olsen playing two Scarlett Witches, Florence Pugh & Jane Levy & Jessica Chastain, 13 going on 30 as an X-Men film(1:30:01) no Lana Condor, sad to see Deadly Class cancelled, Jubilee is an icon character, does this movie need to exist, Nathan Rabin, Dazzler party scene, Dreadlock snake mutant man, aliens that run directly into death, Kota Eberhardt, cinematography so important to making mutant powers believable(1:34:40) X-2 as a superior sequel, mutants using their powers in clever ways, Brian Cox as the best villain with no powers to boot, how much we love Brian Cox, Darren Aronofsky Wolverine flashbacks, Kelly Hu, overall its a bad movie worth watching for Fasbender & McAvoy & Turner, it's not painful to watch, Patrick Stewart is Professor-X, Angela Bassett as the perfect Storm & Bryan Singer's first choice, Angela Bassett as Professor-X, looking at Ben Foster as Angel, that person became the Ben Foster we know today, Galveston aka Cigarettes the movie,

(0:25) distillation of the podcast, sequels all about the choices you make after finding lightening in the bottle in the 1st film, Thor the god of Lightening or Thunder, importance of packaging, art vs attention, Steelbook Blu rays are Forrest's vice (7:10) Steelbook art for Child's Play looks more like it connects to the remake, Poltergeist steelbook dopes you since its the dumb remake, how it matters who created the art, how it changes your perception of the art, like seeing a child grow up, Tony Scott's different artistic periods (10:30) people's derision for remakes of classic films, enjoying horror remakes that are considered only bad because they are remakes, Texas Chainsaw: The Beginnings insider knowledge, love of that film, Did Luc Besson ghost direct Three Days to Kill, Chris Rock doing Saw, was he influenced by Jordan Peele, comparing him to black comedians when he really is similar to George Carlin (15:03) Did Child's Play need to be a direct remake, did it need for the doll to be called Chucky, Khan from rebooted Star Trek 2, Blofield from Spectre, Horrible Bosses 2 will be revisited, Christoph Waltz is a comedic charming Nazi, Buddi Doll wouldn't be bought, what serial killer has a partner, explosion scene in original could have been frightening, Child is a space cadet, voodoo & immortality, Jason goes to Hell is a miss, Carter loves Friday the 13th 3D, Forrest loves Final Chapter, piecemeal the icon features of Jason, Freddy hating Manhattan since its the city that never sleeps, Freddy hating Los Angeles because they would want him to take botox (28:00) Charles Lee Ray's paintings within his apartment, rooting for the serial killer to watch the news, Don Mancini realizing the love for Chucky, Horror movies speed through tense moments for no reason, Crawl did that a few times, not cool seeing a serial killer doll control a car to kill someone, remake exists in a world where only one company exists, feels like it takes place in a child's mind, yet we loved the setting (35:13) creating a lifelong AI powered friend, nice seeing Aubrey Plaza & Brian Tyree Henry in this kind of film, bring corkiness to characters that were dry on paper, Chucky doll not actually evil, sweatshops, teach him morality in the third act, furry bear Chucky doll was funny, drones were stupid, Chucky failing to kill himself (46:56) Gabriel Bateman is great, can tell from the trailer, Mom gets teenage kid a doll was a smart change, re-telling the scariest scene in original, title almost was "Batteries not included", the movie that launches Colin Trevorrow, Steven Spielberg's farm team of directors, only drafting players by name or looks, our parents marketed us by our names, sealing your kids fate, regrets for naming your kid Daenerys, OJ was the opposite of Me Too, future podcast on Weekend at Bernie's 2, crossover between Bernie & Chucky (58:06) Chucky vs Freddy crossover, forgotten **McCaughnaissance film Bernie, 4 of 5 McCaughnaussance films no one saw yet he was doing such great work so it didn't matter, mad at a movie star for being a movie star, Freddy vs Jason's effective at merging both properties, reason Samuel L. signed onto Snakes on a Plane, studio hating the name & wanting it to be Pacific Airline yada, Child's Play on Elm Street, Or include Berne Child's Weekend on Elm Street, Bernie Sanders vs Freddy Krueger crossover A Nightmare on Wall Street (1:08:20) alterations to the remake, imagining a Chucky doll that looked like Jared Leto in The Outsider, serious pitch for remake takes cues from Pinocchio, leading a pitch meeting with a dumb pitch then following up with your actual pitch, Chucky wanting to be a real boy, watching someone get their achillies tendon cut hurts my achilles, comment on adults holding onto child-like qualities, does children's question of why make them more mature than adults? (1:19:32) person's consciousness transferred into a blown-up sex doll, Basic Instinct with sex robots, reviving erotic thrillers for streaming, Basic Instinct influenced by Michelle Carter trial, is she Cara Delavigne's stunt double?, judges not knowing how the law works, mining more from voodoo dolls, director wants to explore Bear Chucky, sequels forgetting to bring up the fallout from the effects of the original, red eyes meaning Chucky is bad was dumb, fierce eyebrows from original Chucky once he reveals his Brad Dourif voice, Chucky creating deep fake videos to kill people (1:27:39) was the release date a good idea next to Toy Story 4?, the marketing with Chucky dragging away toys from that franchise, did that alienate people?, people being alienated by remakes, why didn't Rob Zombie remake get derided for being a remake, or was it reboot, why isn't this Child's Play considered a reboot, fanatic vs fan, tiny Roger Federer doll as the best ping pong player ever (1:35:13) Halloween 2018 as a remake of the Rob Zombie version since both have a Michael Myers that is the size of Jason Voorhees, original Michael Myers looks like a lawyer, storyline to 2018 is identical to H20, future topic on why some remakes aren't derided before they are released, enjoying Rob Zombie's Halloween sequel, deals with the fallout of first film, Scream makes murder look fun, Halloween 2 makes murder terrifying, most slashers have inventive ways to kill

(0:30) honoring Willem Dafoe's Norman Osborn, Calling superheroes by their "superhero" name, Daily Bugle as the New York Post, not liking the 1st third of Far from Home, film reinvigorated by a twist that makes 1st bad third necessary, not really dealing with the consequences from the Snap or Blip, Parker can't go back to school after saving the universe, where does Peter's crush on MJ come from, not present in first film, high schools don't go to Europe, Black Widow Hulk dynamic in Ultorn comes out of nowhere, building romance offscreen between films, playing up Tony Stark death better in the preview than finished film, Al Pacino was a high school drop out hereto high school is pointless (11:14) is Spiderman learning a side trade in case the superhero gig doesn't work out, having to lie due to secret identity, Homecoming setting the bar too high, worst scene in the sequel, double standard with young man has to undress in front of hot older lady is funny, not liking Tom Holland in this one, seems to be playing Andrew Garfield's mumblecore Peter Parker, Night Monkey suit, **Parker not in the suit much, will Zendaya become a spider woman, Disney stars fighting the brand, Lisa Bonet & Alyssa Milano (22:29) covering up what you want, cover your eyes instead of covering women, no sex in the MCU, why does this film need to go to Europe, Mysterio as a villain wanting to be seen as a hero, our idea to send spider man to summer camp quickly shot down, did they actually shoot in Europe [all looks like a set] (32:10) bad CGI scenes within film commentary on bad CGI scenes in all blockbusters, bar reveal scene, Gyllenhaal is so charming, reddit creating content, Westworld theories better than actual show, secrecy around Scream 2 leaked script leading to altering ending, Scream pitch where everyone is a killer, Mysterio as Freddy Krueger, zombie Iron Man, Netflix hiding Anon, wasting talent genre on Netflix (45:35) brainstorming session for Triple Frontier, why set a scene at an MMA match then show no fighting, Forrest re-enacts one of the worst clichés within that movie (1:00:) what was far from home commenting on, Trump era or fiction or superheroes or all of the above, don't believe anything, wanting to be saved, complex problems yet we want simple answer, innovation is our superpower, literal race wars, Spider man's identity revealed, where do they go next, Gary Oldman can't figure out Bruce Wayne is Batman, Iron Man 3 overlaps (1:18:06) Spider man 3 again pitch, Dark Knight follow up forgetting that film's ending, Peter Parker as a Justin Bieber, deleted scenes from preview, pointless fundraisers, RIP Asgardians of the Galaxy, how does Spiderman Venom crossover work, wanting to rewatch Venom even though its bad (1:29:42) actual real world implications from the snap or blip, Gyllenhaal was Spiderman for a few days and now a Spiderman villain, importance of everyone in society, Avengers re-release not including one key deleted scene, should a re-release count toward box office theatrical run, Katherine Langford as older Morgan Stark

(0:30) Creed 2...3...4, Rocky 2, Apollo seems to tire himself out before the final fight, Stallone impression, undone brain damage, can't retcon, eye damage after just one movie, Creed is a sequel spinoff reboot of Rocky, Creed 2 seems like a Rocky movie, getting revenge on the son that killed the father you never met(7:27) Rocky says Drago's son is Raw yet thinks he's dangerous enough not to fight, call back to Rocky 2 mid-fight, why does it open in Kiev?, rooting for the "bad" guys, Rocky needing prove the 1st fight wasn't a fluke, fighting in Adonis' DNA, line in Rocky 2 that didn't age well(13:09) Last week on...Rocky, Halloween 2 continuing right off last film's ending, Michael Myers gets away, Chucky can still kill you just as a head, Adonis is a jerk & a side character in his own movie, Rocky is a lughead yet so genuine, the worry that you will pass on a physical disorder to your child, tinnitus in A Star is Born,(19:32) Story structure, Did Hulk Hogan vs Rocky birth the UFC, Rocky defeating Apollo in a foot race, problem with Rocky 3 fights, Clubber Lang shouts "Stallone" before the fight, Rocky in the 1st two films looks like he ate 10 bowls of pasta before the fight, Creed 2 has too many big fights!!!, Spyder Dad is the true villain of the 1st Creed, Rocky doesn't block yet Apollo only jabs him, still gets 65 punches to the head per round(29:48) Creed 2 can't be written by Stallone, how to shoot the fight scenes, addressing Creed bulking up & the downsides of being so big, moving up in weight classes, cutting weight, have a Mexican fighter from first film come back as the antagonist in Creed 3(38:32) Rocky doesn't want to fight again, going from a failure to accomplishing a major feat to then return back to being a failure again, Andre Ward as the antagonist of Creed 2, plan to have a real Ward fight at the same time as Creed 2 premiere,(43:02) Carter retells the Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury brawl!, great names, Gypsy Kings vs Gypsy King, Brad Pitt in Snatch, Hayden Panetierre, Columbian Neck tie, The Counselor(49:35) can't throw a right hook, Carter & Forrest's pitch to fix Creed 2: Drago fight was actually a fake out & only in the opening, Wheeler is the main fight, still too many sons, Dolph training Wheeler to kill Adonis, love for fight introductions(55:27) tie-in Russia meddling in our politics since Creed wears American flag shorts, Trump cameo, replacing Max Kellerman with Bryan Callen, feels like Kellerman is the narrator & lead of the film, Drago & Rocky reunion fell flat, too many big moments & not enough small moments, comparing Adrian to Bianca, don't think these characters would have gotten married & have kids, thought an abortion was coming—( 1:05:45) Rocky showing up at hospital, Wood Harris' character was the worst trainer, scenes in the trailer not in the finished film, ignores Rocky Balboa son storyline completely, Apollo as Muhammad Ali, Rocky as the anti-movie star, comparing it to A Star is Born, wanted more Philly & LA in Creed 2, Quentin Tarantino thinks Rocky 2 better than Rocky, "Win"!(1:15:46) Biggest pitfalls most sequels follow, Adonis is fighting for ego while Drago is fighting for his home, what's the arc?, no closure, needed more levity & humor, every scene doesn't need to be a home run, modeling a fighter off of Khabib, Forrest wants to be mauled by a bear, Golovkin, Connor McGregor, great white hope

(0:27) MiB franchise discussion commences, was film's title "international" in international markets, Will Smith's Nepotism Hiatus, getting rusty as an actor, Will Smith coming back like Boogie Cousins in the Finals, was he Neuralyzed?, attributing a sequel project's (film, music, book) success based of predecessor's quality, cleverness of original, one of best comedies for Forrest, is it a comedy?, Forrest's oeuvre of comedies, love comedies that make you feel good, does MiB make you feel good, "cool" funny, test scene is an all-timer, actually having scenes where a character thinks outside the box(7:34) rag newspapers Star & Inquirer are actually telling the truth, Tommie Lee Jones explaining why people can't know about Aliens is best scene in film, Barry Seinfeld's mistake on MiB 2,(10:44) MiB 3 highlights [Bill Hader as Andy Warhol, Nicole Scherzinger, maybe the twist], were you moved by ending of International?, did Hemsworth & Thompson have chemistry, was Kumail Nanjiani on set?, Jabroni aliens, diluted feminism or worse, clips from trailer different from original(16:00) movie operating off of one unearned decision, Carter bothered by certain cliche, Hemsworth's natural comedy chops as charming depressed bro, 80's archetypes, differing takes on his character, film acknowledges his good looks, judging looks on a 1-5 uber scale, Hemsworth's strange accent(21:57) Hemsworth's Filmography, Rush as Ron Howard's best film (yet not a hit), Can Hemsworth succeed outside of Thor?, 12 Strong bashing, creating franchises rather than joining them, when a reboot is necessary, this movie does better if its not a MiB film, Total Recall reboot, women with three boobs & worm aliens aren't nostalgia, The Fast and the Furious not a successful franchise if called Point Break(28:28) Carter's pitch for this film, how can conspiracy theory culture & a recent UFO sightings be a focus, the president is an alien, Trump as an alien is comfort food, our world currently is Men in Black 1, Carter's pitch to get people interested in this franchise, building a dome, emulate the comic book and go serious & gritty, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, hiring fan-made video creators for PR, *Mortal Kombat: Rebirth*, kids love gore while adults get grossed out, too old for the gore(40:10) Pawnie love, our favorite scene in the desert, captured originals energy, the universe is a chemical reaction, Tessa Thompson's filmography, liking The Departed accents, defending funny accents, inadequacies in the English language, revisiting language, widower, history of widow, the creation of the word "woman", being a Jew but not liking the term, MiB 4 villains turn a guy into a puddle of mush,(54:41)F. Gary Gray's Oeuvre, Was Fate of the Furious a fever dream?, Sequels breaking bad really fast, Jaws 4 starring Michael Caine, F. Gary Gray rumor mill, Snoop Dogg playing Lakeith Steinfeld, Snoop & Wiz Khalifa, Wiz laugh

(0:25) The purpose for creating this podcast, why sequels intrigue us, why we defend sequels, no one wants another origin, serialized tv vs serialized movies, comparing to sports, (4:55) safety in sequels, yet hard to reignite the spark of the original, loving to be challenged, where do you go after the happy ending of the original, life doesn't have an ending why should our franchises, the day after you fall in love in a romantic comedy, Rocky 2 story emblematic of process to make sequels, franchises switching genres midstream, all iconic characters from sequels [Alien, Jason Voorhees, Rambo], sequels as our modern day myths, The Odyssey, The Bible (12:43) only say we like original movies based off the one's that hit, forget to take in to account the ones that no one saw, Fast & Furious and Mission Impossible metamorphosis, sequels as just a cash grab, all art meshed with commerce, can go riskier with sequel since safer at the box office, certain formulas grow tiresome, original scenes within sequels, sequels needing to be better (21:59) Why are the Jansen's equipped to be sequelizers, enjoying every type of film, defenders of low art, yet not lowest common denominator guys, bringing all films you've seen with you into the the theater, Quentin Tarantino stealing what he loves to see like a heist, hip hop-like, new isn't a real thing just a feeling, boiling things down to the basics (26:51) brotherly bond watching movies, 2nd child compared to original child, feeling inferior, experience writing sequels — Bad Boys 3, , Die Hard meta reboot remake, Escape Room 2, Dark Knight Rises 2, Joe Alves directing Jaws 2