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In this episode we pick up some more of what Prosperity Gospel is laying down and apply the sniff test. Our conduit into this sewer pit of blasphemy will be the wonderfully named, Creflo Dollar.There are celebrity cameo guest star appearances from West Georgia College, World Dome, Atlanta, Georgia, 501c Tax Exemption Code as per Title 26 under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, Michael Smith, Atlanta White Pages, Urban Dictionary, Empowered for Success, The True Source of your Prosperity and Grace for Financial Stewardship, PayPal, YouTube, Gulfstream G650, Mars, Law Based Prayer versus Grace Based Prayer, The Power of Supernatural Living, Prayer Into Communion, Johnny Cochran, Madison Square Gardens, The Great Misunderstanding, Old Testament, New Testament,   #666 #SketchComedy #Sketch #Comedy #Sketch Comedy #Atheist #Science #History #Atheism #Antitheist #ConspiracyTheory #Conspiracy #Conspiracies #Sceptical #Scepticism #Mythology #Religion #Devil #Satan #Satanism #Satanist #Skeptic #Debunk #Illuminati #Podcast #funny #sketch #skit #comedy #parody #satire #comedyshow #comedyskits #HeavyMetal #weird #leftist #SatanIsMySuperhero Send us a text

This week Johnboy tells the lads of the Colombian street kid who was adopted by American parents and then himself adopted a very royal persona! Anthony Gignac never works a job but always works his hustle of pretending to be a Saudi Prince and along the way he dupes Johnny Cochran, American Express and multiple investors out of millions of dollars! What will stop him??

Nancy Grace brought the energy!  WOW!-Discuss her new podcast-How the murder of her fiancé was the reason she became a victims rights advocate-How God helped get her back to school-Did she like working with Johnny Cochran  To subscribe to The Pete McMurray Show Podcast just click here

Famous... or shall we say Infamous former football player OJ Simpson has died. T-Boogie says people like her still hate him. This past week we also lost southern hip hop pioneer Rico Wade who was one third of the organized noise production team. Young Jeezy says No More and whats up with the Breakfast Club in Atlanta.Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

We're headed back to ye olde west to talk about this dapper motherfucker, Ben Thompson. All he wanted to do was gamble and hang out with famous people, but dudes just kept having to try him, so he just had to shoot them. Even the juries kept agreeing that he was in the right. And he managed to get that agreement without Buffalo Bills money, Johnny Cochran, and a glove that didn't fit. So you know he actually deserved it. Anyway, this dude was dope, so enjoy!

Back in 2016, The FX Drama, The People V. OJ Simpson won 8 Emmy Awards and 2 Golden Globe Awards, including Outstanding Lead Actor in a Limited Series or Movie by Courtney B. Vance as the late Johnny Cochran.In the days before its release, Vance sat in-studio with me for what would become a legendary and classic conversation.Yes, Episode 7 of our favorite moments in our Legends and Classics series is none other than Emmy and Tony Award-winner, Courtney B. Vance.

We can't tell the story of hip-hop without mentioning Diddy and the record label he started. Bad Boy took off in 1993 after Puff was fired from Uptown Records. He brought TheNotorious B.I.G. with him from Uptown Record, and signed a 50-50 deal with Clive Davis's Arista Records, and it was off to the races.Bad Boy survived the tragic fallout of the East Coast vs. West Coast rivalry, and reached even bigger heights after Biggie's death. Puff began to rise as a solo artist, but did the rest of the artists suffer as a result?Friend of the pod, Zack O'Malley Greenburg, joins me on this episode to cover 30 years of Bad Boy Entertainment. Here's what we hit on:0:35 Sean Combs come-up story5:16 Diddy breaks in with Uptown Records8:22 Starting Bad Boy Records14:11 What sets Diddy apart21:04 How Diddy controlled the narrative23:58 Bad Boy's formula for success 29:00 East Coast vs. West Coast rivalry30:39 Bad Boy's historic 1997-98 run45:42 Bad Boy curse?48:44 Diddy's reputation compared to Cash Money54:50 Best signing? 55:19 Best business move?57:19 Best dark horse move?1:00:19 Missed opportunity?1:08:52 Possibility of biopic?Listen: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | SoundCloud | Stitcher | Overcast | Amazon | Google Podcasts | Pocket Casts | RSSHost: Dan Runcie, @RuncieDan, trapital.coGuests: Zack O'Malley Greenburg, @zogblogThis episode is sponsored by DICE. Learn more about why artists, venues, and promoters love to partner with DICE for their ticketing needs. Visit dice.fmEnjoy this podcast? Rate and review the podcast here! ratethispodcast.com/trapitalTrapital is home for the business of music, media and culture. Learn more by reading Trapital's free memo.TRANSCRIPT[00:00:00] Zack Greenburg: Diddy's ability to sort of walk the line and step back, you know, I think that's what ultimately kept Bad Boy in the position that, you know, that stayed and kept him in the position that he continued to be in.[00:00:09] Dan Runcie Outro Audio: Hey, welcome to the Trapital Podcast. I'm your host and the founder of Trapital, Dan Runcie. This podcast is your place to gain insights from the executives in music, media, entertainment, and more who are taking hip hop culture to the next level.[00:00:35] Dan Runcie Guest Intro: Today's episode is another case study style breakdown, and this time we chose to dive deep on the one, the only Bad Boy Entertainment when it comes to branding and when it comes to marketing. I don't know if there's another record label that has as identifiable as a sound of vibe as bad Boy, you knew what that vibe was.Puff said it himself, they take hits from the eighties, but do it sound so crazy? And that was the formula, and it worked time and time again. What Puff did was smart, it was a modern approach to how Berry Gordy approached the record business with Motown. But then he put his own spin on it, interning with Andre Harrell at Uptown Records, learning from him and then putting his own spin on it even more, making it relevant for the 90s and truly becoming the icon that was synonymous with shiny suits with that Bad Boy flavor.And so much of the success of one of the best MCs ever, the Notorious BIG, some of the most iconic R&B groups at the time, and singers such as Faith Evans, 112 and many more. And plenty of artists that unfortunately also had plenty of challenges and issues when it came to payment, drama, legal disputes and more.And we dive into all of that. I'm joined again by Zack O'Malley Greenburg. He wrote a book called Three Kings, where he dived deep into Diddy, as well as Dr. Dre and Jay-Z in this book, so he's well-versed and shared a bunch of great stories in this one. So let's dive in, really excited for this one. Hope you enjoy it.[00:02:06] Dan Runcie: We are back to talk about the wondrous world that Sean Combs built himself Bad Boy entertainment and joined by the one and only Zach Greenburg. Welcome back[00:02:15] Zack Greenburg: Oh, thanks for having me, Dan.[00:02:17] Dan Runcie: Bad Boy is so fascinating because Puff is someone who has in many ways been this larger than life character even before people knew him externally as that.And he has really stayed true with that throughout his time in hip hop and even before then. And most people know the origin story starting back in his days at Howard. But I think based on the research you've done, I know you have some backstory with some of the lessons and some of the things he did even before that.So walk us back. Who was puff in the early days before the world? Got to know him.[00:02:52] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think the funny part is that, that puffy was always puffy and, you know, it just took a while for a little while for the world to kind of figure it out. But you know, there are these kind of consistent themes when you go back through his youth and you, kind of get a sense of who he was.And, you know, I remember writing my book Three Kings, you know, Diddy being one of these kings, talking to people who grew up around him. He really was that same guy from the very beginning. So even when he was a kid, you know, he spent his very earliest years in Harlem, but then moved to Mount Vernon, kind of a suburban neighborhood.you know, just north of the city limits. And you know, he had not just one paper route, he had multiple paper routes and on every, you know, every route. He had this philosophy of like, he wasn't just gonna take the paper and fling it into the family's yard. He was gonna get up and he was gonna go, you know, open the screen door and put the paper in between the screen door and the main door so that people didn't have to go up and do so like he was, you know, that dedicated, that hardworking from the very beginning. you know, I think another story I learned from his youth, Puffy was like, there was some, Some debate, you know, some kid had a pool party and, Puffy wasn't invited. there may have been some racism at play, we don't know. But anyway, Puffy's solution was to convince his mom to build a pool in their backyard and then start his own pool parties and, you know, I mean, it's like the most puffy move ever, right? So he just ended up finding, you know, wealthier and wealthier backers to build the proverbial pool as the years went on.[00:04:23] Dan Runcie: That is the perfect story to encapsulate him because I feel like I could imagine other people having white parties. He doesn't get invited to the white party, so he's like, all right, bet I'm gonna go start my own white party. And now it's this annual thing, however many years running.[00:04:37] Zack Greenburg: Exactly. I mean, and you know, you know, as you kind of trace his evolution, you know, in between it was the same thing. So, you know, we all know the Howard Days, he was taking the Amtrak up, sometimes hiding in the bathroom, so they didn't have to pay for the tickets. He didn't have any money but, you know, he would go up back up to New York on the weekends, he would plan these parties.He started to build a name for himself. and it was exactly that, you know, so from the pool parties, in Mount Vernon to the parties that he was throwing, you know, his colleges to the White party, you get that through line of Puffy that, you know, kind of continues all the way through, through the Ciroc era, you know, I think, which really makes this sort of art celebration, ethos, you know, all the more credible, right.[00:05:16] Dan Runcie: Right, and you mentioning him taking Amtrak. Of course, that's him going from DC to New York to go to Uptown Records where he pushes and fights to get his unpaid internship. Working with Andre Harrell, who was on the Ascension himself. He had started that record label in the mid to late eighties. He then sees the rise.He's early on, new Jack Swing has so many of the early folks making that sound there. And then Puff comes in, he sees a opportunity to elevate and position that brand because the whole thing that Uptown was about, they were trying to push Ghetto Fabulous. They wanted to show that there was a opportunity for people who grew up with nothing to feel like they had that release.And Andre Harrell, he since passed away a few years ago, but he spoken about this a few times and you can see how Puff at the time adapted a lot of that. He worked with Jodeci. He was so integral with how he styled them and making sure they had the right jackets. And at the time, Jodeci was very much seen as this alternative to Boys to Men, Boys to Men was a bit more buttoned up.They made music that was G-rated that you could play everywhere. And Jodeci definitely leaned into the sex appeal, which is something that we saw continue play through with. Bad Boy records of Bad Boy Entertainment in the future. He did similar with Mary J. Blige, taking her from just being a R&B singer to giving her more of a hip hop Ben, and doing a bit more of that crossover vibe, which is something that we saw again with Bad Boy too.And as Puff continued to show his influence, things started to clash because the intern then becomes VP of A and R, and that VP in A and R starts to butt heads and really challenge Andre Harrell on a number of things.[00:07:06] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. And, you know, I think, you know, like you said, Puff really had an idea of what Uptown could be that was, you know, a little bit different from Andre. But it really worked, right? It was the idea that it was, it had a little bit more of an edge to it. you know, like Jodeci had a little more edge than boys to men.you know, that every artist that was gonna be out on Bad Boy would have like, you know, would have that level of class, but also would have kind of like, you know, kind of like a street smart edge. And so, right, it was like the Tims and the backwards hat, but, you know, maybe you had like a nice jacket.It was that kind of mix. And it was very much like in line with Puffy himself. and I think, you know, it's a theme that you kind of started to see. as kind of, he moved on, you know, whether it was Bad Boy or Roc or whatever it was, the thing was synonymous with Puffy. Puffy was synonymous with the thing. But as he began to later on build these assets, you know, he could sell the businesses in a way that he couldn't sort of sell his own image and likeness necessarily. So, that started with, Uptown for sure, it was Andre's thing, but it started to feel like it was Puffy's thing.And I think there was some thought that, you know, that there sort of couldn't be two kings in the castle. And Andre eventually pushed him out and, you know, that kind of left it, the Diddy, you know, in his early twenties kind of figuring out like, Hey, you know, what am I gonna do next? How am I gonna really start my own thing here?[00:08:22] Dan Runcie: And I have this quote from Andre. This was from a documentary a few years later. He says, when Puff got fired, he was on payroll and his artists were on payroll. He's still recording his artists, but he was able to find the best deal, so we never fired him to hurt him. But he fired him to basically make him rich.I will say that quote is much nicer than certain things that Andre said immediately after that firing, especially in the 90s. But it was cool to see the two of them find opportunities to continue to work together after that. But I think the key thing from his time in Uptown is that he was able to find and work with art is that eventually he started working with on Bad Boy.That's when he first works and discovers Big. That's when he first works and really begins to hone in on that sound. And then he officially launched Bad Boy in 1991, but it really wasn't until 1993. He starts working with Big, he starts working with Craig Mack and then it all leads up to this deal that he ends up signing with Arista records to officially do this joint venture with Arista.Arista, of course, was run by Clive Owen, legendary music executive, and they do their 50 50 split. And as the story goes, Clive was on the fence. At first he wanted to hear more, but then Puff Plays flavor in your ear. Craig Max first single, and he was like, all right, I need to be part of this, whatever it is.So that was the song that took things off and made it happen.[00:09:50] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, I mean, Clive Davis, of course, you know, legendary, record men, you know, discovered Janice Joplin, Whitney Houston, Puffy, like you could say, he discovered all these people. they were, they were kind of there already, and, I sort of suspect they would've had their success even if it were not for Clive Davis.But, you know, that, we could debate that. But, know, Clive Davis certainly had an eye for talent, one way or the other. So, I mean, I think what's really fascinating too is, you know, you got think where Puffy was at that point in his life before he got that deal. He was shopping Bad Boy around right?To a bunch of different labels and it says so much about him and his whole ethos, the way he approached it, and this was another anecdote that I found in my reporting, by one of the founders of The Fader who happened to work at EMI at the time. He was in the room when Puffy brought the Bad Boy deal, to the folks at e Emmi and, you know, so like, just to refresh, here's Puff early twenties, just been fired.Just had his first kid, I think. And also, you know, he'd been a part of, this charity basketball tournament at City College where a bunch of people got, crushed in a stampede. He was ultimately found, you know, not guilty of any kind of criminal charges or anything, but his name was all over the papers.Like there's a lot of negative press around him. He was kind of, you know, almost radioactive at this point, or at least one might have thought that turned out he wasn't. But, so anyway, he goes into this meeting with e Emmi and, you know, Their big thing was, Vanilla Ice. And he sort of goes into this meeting and he's like, that dude's corny.Like, I have no interest in anything having to do with Vanilla Ice. Let me tell you how to run your business. And, you know, so he proceeds to like, give them this vision. And then at the end of it, I mean, and I'll read the quote cause it's just so good. he says, when you guys get in a room with all them suits and you're gonna decide what you're gonna pay Puff, just when you get to a number that you think is gonna make Puff happy, I love how he was referring to himself the third person, right?He says, get crazy on top of that. And then when you're there, I want whipped cream and a cherry on top. and this is the best part, he goes, I don't even want to think about the money. That shouldn't even be an issue. Don't be coming at me with no n-word money. Goodbye. And like that was vintage puff.Like that was billionaire Puffy. Before he was billionaire, before he even had. Like before we had a company. So, you know, I think there's just such a great lesson in there, which is kind of like, you know, the sort of, if you can pull off the, fake it till you make it, if you can have that kind of swagger. And to be fair, not available to everybody and like, you know, don't try this at home, kind of if you don't have it.But man, if you can pull that off, if you have that kind of confidence in yourself, you can accomplish some pretty incredible things. He didn't even, you know, end up going with EMI but I think he made a similar pitch at Arista and, you know, and that ultimately got him the deal, that created Bad Boy and, you know, that was really the engine for so much of, what he ended up achieving as the years went on.[00:12:46] Dan Runcie: That story is one of the reasons why he has lived on to become meed and in many ways become a bit of a gift himself. Whether you look at the Chappelle Show skit where, Dave Chappelle is making fun of making the band, and he has that whole sketch about, I want you to get me some Cambodian milk from a goat, or whatever it is.And it's something that sounds completely absurd, but one, it sounded like a lot of the shit that he would say in that MTV show make in the band. And it sounds exactly like that quote that you just shared from that story. The difference is he did this, whether it was for pure entertainment on a show like making the band or when there was really things at stake, like he was at this point when there wasn't a deal in place, he was recently fired.But regardless of whether he's up or down, trying to get it still the same guy.[00:13:39] Zack Greenburg: Absolutely. You know, and I think it just kind of goes to the point like, did he creates brands. He is the brand. He imbued the brand with his essence. And then the brand becomes that much more valuable, whether it's a brand that he can sell, you know, for some huge gain, or whether it's a brand that is compensating him, you know, handsomely for his association or in some cases both. That's kind of the formula and, you know, not everybody can pull it off because not everybody has a brand that is that clear.[00:14:11] Dan Runcie: And let's dig into this because I think this is one of the things that does set him apart. Denny used to be a club promoter as well. And this is a persona that we've seen oftentimes in music where the club promoter or the party promoter works their way up to then become the executive. You see it now with Scooter Braun, someone who's a billionaire now, or close to it in his own right.And he was a party promoter in Atlanta. You saw with Desiree Perez who now runs Roc Nation. She was a party and a club promoter before as well. And you've seen it plenty of times before and I think there's a few things there. There's a hustle and a relentlessness that you need to have to make that work.You need to create momentum around some of that isn't there. You need to understand and be tapped into what people want to hear and what people wanna do and how people wanna feel entertained and how they wanna leave from something feeling like, damn, I had a good time. We need to go do that again. And that is a lifestyle and what Puff did was aligned himself by building businesses that allowed him to do that. Some of those businesses worked better than others, but I think that is the key through line there. On the flip side, I do think that some of these operators and business leaders can often struggle with the bigger picture because there's so many more elements to building companies outside of the marketing brand promotion and those things, and I think we can get into some of that here because I think we saw some of those dynamics play out with Bad Boy as well.[00:15:39] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, for sure. And you know, I mean, I think one of the things about Bad Boy is it wasn't like this was the first record label to develop an ethos and kind of build a lifestyle around it. And, almost like, assembly line, right? I mean, Puffy was doing that himself at Uptown before he just took that same idea and, Pufified it even more.But, you know, I would kind of almost liken it to Motown. I mean, if you look at, Berry Gordy's role, I mean, you see Berry Gordy, credited as a producer on so many, of those songs and, you know, he wasn't like the only person in the room, producing right? he was putting together the right songwriters, the right musicians, everybody to be in the same place. And he was tying it all together with this kind of Motown ethos. And when, you know, when you had a Motown record coming out, you knew what it was. And I think that's why people in the old days used to be fan people would be fans of like, specific labels, right? They're like, I like the stuff that this label puts out, you know, I trust them. It's almost like, you know, I don't know, you know, Coachella sells out, even before the artists are announced because you know what you're gonna get if you like Coachella and you just trust that that's what's gonna happen. That's what it was like, Motown, that's what it's like with Bad Boy.So I think Diddy really followed that model that he was going to be the person, you know, sort of putting things together, you know, maybe he was going to, do a guest verse here and there. Maybe he was gonna be more involved in the production of this play of this song or another song. but it was really more in the vision and the ethos of the brand, the Bad Boy brand, what that looked like, what success looked like, you know, the Diddy version of success looked like maybe a little different from the Uptown Andre Herrell version. And, you know, it was like, like a little more swagger, like, you know, like a little more edge to it. And he was really able to kind of like, make that tangible. So, you know, I would keep going back to that as like something that sets him apart, you know, following the footsteps of the likes of Berry Gordy and[00:17:34] Dan Runcie: The Motown example is good because they also were able to maximize the most from the broader roster they had from the hits that they had Berry Gordy, of course, was famous for one artist on his record, has a huge deal. Okay, we're gonna get another artist on that record on that label to then do it again.You saw that with Aint' No Mountain High Enough. Marvin Gaye has his version that goes through the roof. Okay, let's get Diana Ross to do her own version, her own spin on it. That becomes a song in its own right. And you saw, did he do this to some extent with remixes? How one artist had the remix that worked out well.Okay, or one artist had the original song that worked out well, okay, let's get the remix now. Let's get the whole Bad Boy crew on this remix to go do their own verse and do this thing. They did that time and time again, and then in the early two thousands he had that album. We invented the remix, and there's plenty of debate on whether or not they actually did invent the remix, but that remix that they did of Flava in Ya Ear with, Craig Mack, and they had Biggie on that one as well. That is one of the more classic iconic remixes that people do go back to. And I think the other way that they're , similar too is some of the disputes that artists have had about pavements and things like that, which we can get into eventually.But that's always been the model. I think there in many ways, you're right, it's more like Motown than it is like uptown.[00:18:58] Zack Greenburg: for sure. And you know, on the Biggie point, I mean, people forget sometimes, but Biggie was originally signed to Uptown and Puffy had to go and get him back, and I think they were able to negotiate his release or his transfer of his deal from Uptown to Bad Boy for something like half a million dollars, which, you know, turned out to be, a pretty good deal all the way around.So, you know, he knew that sometimes he would have to shell out and, you know, he did from time to time. That certainly didn't stop there from being disputes, as time went on. But, you know, I think one of the other fascinating things is sort of this interplay, you know, he really walked this line, of sort of like, you know, the corner in the corner office, right?you know, the boardroom, and the street, and, he played up this sort of like lineage that he had of the Harlem gangster world like his dad, Melvin was an associate of Frank Lucas from, you know, the subject of American gangster. And you know, like his dad was known in Harlem. I think they called him, pretty Melvin.Like he was very flashy, you know, he always had the best suits and, you know, and all that kind of thing. But, you know, he definitely came from that sort of like grand gangster era. you know, Frank Lucas and Nick Barnes and all those guys. I mean, that was sort of Puffs lineage.And he definitely played up and he certainly played up, you know, sort of different sort of, street edge, you know, when things got heated in the Bad Boy Death Row situation. But at the same time, he never really wanted to go too deep into it.And I talked to somebody who sort of grew up around him, and he called him Jimmy Clean Hands, you know, because he didn't really want to get like, like he used the association. When it was sort of convenient, but also he didn't want to get too deeply associated, with that side of things.So, to me it's, a really fascinating tightrope walk, how he pulled it off. And, if he'd gone further, toward that side of things, I don't think that would've ended well for him. And if he hadn't gone quite as far as he might not have had, you know, a certain credibility or an edge that, you know, that contributed to so much of the success of Bad Boy, especially in those days.[00:21:04] Dan Runcie: And he did it at a time in the 90s when it was easier for hip hop stars to be able to control the narrative and push what they wanna push and not have other things cover or not have other things be uncovered, or all these internet rabbit holes. I could imagine him trying to do this 10, 15 years later, and it could be a situation like Rick Ross where all of a sudden there's photos of you as a correctional officer popping up on the internet and people are like, bro, what the hell's going on here?I thought every day you were hustling. I could have seen something like that happening the same way that Diddy, but by the time that plenty of people have had those debates about, oh, well, you know, Diddy was actually a kid that grew up in the suburbs and went to college and X, Y, Z, and there's plenty of ways that you could flip that story, but by the time that even became a discussion point, at least in circles where I heard him growing up, he was already an established star.So there was really nothing else that you could do at that point.[00:21:58] Zack Greenburg: yeah. And I guess he could walk that line because he really did kind of embody both, right? Like he was the son of a, you know, a Harlem gangster. he was born in Harlem. His dad was killed, you know, on I think Central Park West and 108th Street or something, you know, in a dispute a case of I think mistaken identity.I mean, so there were real, you know, tough things that, he was born into. And at the same time, he was also, you know, like the college dropout. Like you know, he went to school, he did his thing like, you know, you could say he was like a proto backpack rapper in some ways, like if you wanted to spin it that way.And he kind of embodied both of these worlds, but I think that really, if he hadn't actually lived both those lives, it would've been harder to sort of embody them simultaneously as he did.[00:22:47] Dan Runcie: And even in him, in his own right, there were many incidents that he had that people felt could have supported this narrative that he wanted to, for better or worse, whether it was the 1990 Club nightclub, the 1999 nightclub shooting after the Nas Hate Me Now Music video, him and his team going into Steve Stout's office and then, you know, assaulting him.And then everything that came up after that, or even as recently as within the past 10 years, the incident at UCLA with the coach yelling at his son. There's been plenty of things that have came up that show, you know, that the relentless, the temperament that could often work against his advantage as well.[00:23:26] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. I mean, you know, didn't he bash Steve Stout over the head with a champagne bottle or something? I mean, you know, but what's that line? We back friends like Puffy and Steve Stout, you know, like it, 50 cent had that line. I think he has a remarkable ability to, you know, to end up being sort of friendly with, people who he had these disputes with in the past.So, you know, whether, Steve Stout or, Shine or whoever, like, he finds, various ways to, sort of bridge divides in the end. I don't know how it turned out with the coach from, was it UCLA, or USC. But I suspect that's fine too. but yeah, he does find a way of patching things up.[00:23:59] Dan Runcie: No, he definitely has and we could talk a little bit more about some of the disputes that came with some of the artists, but I do wanna talk a bit about the business of Bad Boy itself and how it went about things. And one of the things that we saw from successful record labels, of course, Zach and I have done past conversations on Cash money, and Roc-A-Fella, and they'll always find innovative ways to work within their constraints or find ways to make things work even when you don't have all of the resources in the world.And one of the things that Bad Boy did was they really leaned into sampling and sampling hits from the eighties and making them the most successful things they could be. What's that line from that May song Making, taking hits from the eighties make 'em soundso Make it sound so crazy. Yeah.so they have their in-house production as well with hit men who then do most of the production, and they give you that Bad Boy sound that you can identify when you hear it immediately on a song, whether it's a total song or it's a one 12 song.And they were able to do that and that formula worked so well because you had this generation that grew up listening to those songs because their parents heard all those songs as well. These are black music classics and then they were able to repurpose them and because of the time and things weren't quite as oversaturated, it sounded quite authentic in a way where I think even some samples now can feel almost a bit forced because you can be like, okay, they're really trying to work that artist.And who knows? I might be also looking at this now, someone in my thirties as opposed to in the 90s, looking at it as someone that's growing up experiencing this. But still, I do think that there was a bit of like a authenticity and a vibe that they were able to create with each of those sample tracks.And plenty people tried to do it. Of course they didn't invent it. I know that Death Row and NWA, Dr. Dre had done it successfully before Diddy, but Diddy and Bad Boy were definitely able to put their own unique spin on making that as effective as it was.[00:25:57] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, definitely. I think, you know, I mean, I think to your point, but it, like it really opened up this sort of aspect of mainstream hip hop when, you know, maybe there were some radio stations that weren't gonna play some of these songs, but, you know, like a puffy song or a biggie song ordinarily, but, you know, if you have like, Oh, that's David Bowie in the background.Like I'm familiar with this. then, you might be sort of like more inclined to put it on the radio if you were a certain kind of dj, which then might reach a certain kind of listener who didn't, you know, ordinarily listen in hip hop and, you know, and you kind of have this, kind of snowball effect.you know, sure.[00:26:32] Dan Runcie: And then from a personal perspective, I'll be the first to admit the amount of songs that I had heard the first time as Bad Boy Version. And then growing up, you then later hear the original one that they sampled from the eighties or seventies, whatever Disco tracker, soul Tracker was, and you're like, oh, that's what that song was from.It's happened endless times and it continues to still happen.[00:26:54] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. I must confess, I heard I'll be missing you before, I heard I'll be watching you, so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. you know, so yeah, and I think a lot of that narrative around the sort of peak Bad Boy sampling era, you know, I think it gets unfairly criticized as sort of being uncreative and like, you know, essentially just being cover and, not adding much to it.But, I disagree entirely, and I think that in addition to creating a different song with a different vibe and everything, you know, th those songs did introduce a whole generation of people, to eighties music that, you know, they may not have been alive to have heard, you know, from, you know, let's say I was born 85, some of these songs came out before I was born.So, yeah, I think that does get missed sometimes.[00:27:35] Dan Runcie: Yeah, and I'm in the same boat. I knew Juicy before. I knew the original Juicy Fruit. I knew Mase Bad Boy before I knew Hollywood Swinging, and I could go on and on with all the songs that they were able to help in introduce and connect the dots there. Another thing that I think Bad Boy did at this time that was a continuation of Uptown was how intentional and borderline maniacal Puff was about continuing that image.So, they had the Can't Stop Boat Stop documentary that came out a couple years ago. And the artist from one 12, which was the main male R&B group that Puff had signed to the record label at the time, they said that they were styled, dressed and personified to be an image of Puff themselves, to essentially be Puff as R&B singers, which was really interesting.And then on the more controversial side, which I don't think would ever fly in the same way today, Faith Evans, who was married to Biggie at the time, she was sent by Puff to go to tanning salons cuz she a light-skinned black woman. They sent her to tanning salons so that her skin can be darker because he wanted to be able to sell her as a certain image that would never fly again the same way today.But that's how Puff was. He was so maniacal, even things down to the nail color and things like that for women. He wanted to make sure that people looked a certain way.[00:29:01] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, and I think what's, you know, especially interesting when you, kind of zoom back on the 90s and that, that era of Bad Boys, you know, given the level of control he had over, you know, that level of detail, you know, the whole east coast, west coast thing, the whole Bad Boy Death Row thing obviously got way out of control.and, you know, culminating in, the desert of big and pop and you know, obviously we don't know exactly who was behind each of those things, but it's, you know, still kind of debate to this day. But, the fact is that, you know, got kind of wrapped up in this kind of, know, sort of thing, like the fact that Puffy could bring Bad Boy back from that, and kind of like continue to have the same brand, you know, after everything that went down, you know, I think is another testament to like the identity of the brand, right? I mean, you know, cuz I remember in that period of time hip hop was really under fire from, you know, so, you know, like the Tipper Gores of the world and the parental advisories and all that, and there was this narrative of like, oh, this music is dangerous.And there was a whole period of time, you know, after everything that went down, in the mid to late 90s, like there were questions like, is hip hop? You know, really a viable commercial genre? Are brands really gonna want to be attached to this? you know, because of the violence that happened, you know, really publicly there.And I think, you know, whether you love him or hate him, like, I think he deserves some credit for pulling things back from the brink. you know, regardless of whatever role he played in getting them, to the brink, but he really did kind of pull things back from the brink and show that hip hop could be this, you know, commercial force.you know, that would be like a mainstream success sort of thing. And really pretty quickly, after all this went down,[00:30:39] Dan Runcie: If you go back to winter 96, the height of this beef, you have that infamous vibe cover with Tupac, Dr. Dre Snoop, and Suge Knight. They're there, the Beef and Bad Boy and, Biggie as well. Were on respective vibe covers as well. If you asked people, okay, five, 10 years from now, which of these two record labels will be in the stronger position, you probably would've put your money on Death Row.To be frank, they had the better artists just from like a roster perspective. With those four, the leadership seemed in many ways quite as strong and there were similarities there as well. You had these two relentless, large and life figures. Granted, Suge and Puff are very different in a lot of ways, but that's where you would've taken things.But then two years later, it's a completely different story. Death Row is imploding and bad Boy had the biggest year that any record label has ever had. If you look back at that 1997 to 1998 stretch, and this is after the death of the biggest rapper as well, they end up releasing Biggie's second album, Life After Death, ironically, 16 days after he passed away.And then Puff himself becomes this larger than life icon. He releases his own album, Puffy, P uff Daddy, the Family, No Way Out. And they continue to go on this run. And in many ways, as other heads and other figures in hip hop have faded and necessarily taken their own path, he continued to stay on that.It really is a remarkable journey when you look at each of those steps in it, because I probably would've put my money on Death Row if I didn't know better.[00:32:21] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, it sure felt that way, right? I mean, but if you kinda, if you compare the leadership, if you compare Puffy to Suge, you know, I think that so much of, you know, the back and forth between Bad Boy and Death Row, you know, it was a case of like, these guys were playing a role, right?I mean, they were, it is funny in some of my reporting, people say like, both Puffy and Suge, especially Suge, were sort of, it was like they were acting in their own bad gangster movie. And I think the main difference was, you know, Suge really came to believe it and live it in a way, that Diddy, didn't quite do it you know, as we were saying before, Diddy kind of walked that line.but Suge just kind of got deeper and deeper into it, and that was kind of who he was, you know, all the time. So, you know, that there's not really like, kind of like a way to, back out, you know, to kind of come up for air when you, when you've kind of like gotten that deep into it like Suge did. I think that was the main difference, you know? I mean, I think he became just completely, you know, is like possessed by this image that he created for himself. And he started to live it, you know, all the time and Diddy's ability to sort of walk the line and step back, you know, I think that's what ultimately kept Bad Boy in the position that, you know, that stayed and kept him in the position that he continued to be in.in[00:33:42] Dan Runcie: And everything that went down to that 1995 Source Awards is a perfect example about how they dealt with this whole thing. Suge and Death Row, famously win Best soundtrack for Above the Rim. He goes up, accepts the award, and he makes the infamous line. If you wanna sign with the label, you don't wanna have your executive producer all on the record, all on the video dancing come to Death Row, and then you see.Puff is there just looking, not saying anything, but everyone knows who he's talking about. But then later on the night Puff goes and is on the mic, he doesn't go necessarily take a shot back at Suge, but he just makes some type of more global statement, Hey, we're all in this together. I forget Puff's exact quote, but that's a perfect example of this, right?Of knowing that line cuz as we know, puff had a temper. Puff wasn't afraid to throw down in the moments, right? But he knew that in that stage, in that setting, especially even on his home turf, this was all the West Coast guys coming there because, you know, there was that famous scene of Snoop Dogg standing up being like, East Coast ain't got no love for Dr. Dre and Snoop.That's my horrible Snoop dog voice there. But Puff was cool, calm, collected during all of that, and as you put it, the difference behind the difference between the two of them is more than puff deciding to be all the video and should not be in, the video. The same way it was everything that you explained it more.And that is one of the biggest reasons, I think for that difference. And what helped Bad Boys essentially be even stronger, unfortunately. So after Big's death,[00:35:21] Zack Greenburg: yeah, totally. And you know, I think with Puff, he ultimately. He had that calm, cool, collected side to him that came out, you know, I think at, helpful points, but he was ultimately about, you know, protecting the bag, right? Like Diddy is a business, he is the business. And he, knows that he has to kind of keep that in mind.And I think, you know, Suge on the other hand just kind of like got too deep in his own narrative and couldn't kind of like poke his head up over the clouds and see the view from, you know, 35,000 feet or whatever. So, I think Diddy's business sense, you know, I think ultimately helped keep him, keep him, you know, just above the fray.So, still super remarkable when you look at it. He threw that first white party in 1998. That was really, that was what, like a year, a year after Biggie was killed. And, you know, just to give you an idea of the kind of stuff that was going down. I mean, he bought this house in East Hampton, and he decided that he was gonna throw the most exclusive party people just to give the background.I did some reporting on this too, but like, it apparently if you got invited to the white party and Puffy's White party, you could not get in If you wore like a cream suit, they'd throw you out. If you had, like a blue stripe on your white shirt, they would throw you out.So you had like grown men running home to get like an all white proper shirt to go to these parties. And you know, like pretty quickly you had Martha Stewart and Howard Stern and Donna Koran and like, Donald Trump used to go to these parties, you know, with his daughter everything. So, it was kind of like a who's who of like a certain type of celebrity in the late 90s.And to go from, you know, from the depths of the East coast, West coast thing to that, in like a year. I think it just shows how Puffy's able to kind of flip things around and that's what he was able to do with Bad Boy. He pivoted the whole narrative and suddenly it was about Puff Daddy, the family.It was about, you know, Godzilla soundtrack and, you know, doing the thing with an orchestra and Jimmy Page and whatever. And, you know, singing, he's able to like recreate himself and also these brands like Bad Boy that's created in his image. you know, like in a remarkably quick timeframe, I think.[00:37:38] Dan Runcie: And to share some numbers on this era. This is peak Bad Boy. I would say this whole 97 to 1999 stretch. 1999, they sold 130 million worth of records. And for some context there, that was more than Madonna's Maverick label had that year. And this was, or Madonna, during that whole Ray of Light era, if I'm remembering the timeline, and Beautiful Stranger, if I remember the timeline correctly and more than Def Jam had at its peak that year, and this was, we did the Def Jam pod recently.This was around the same time that Lyor was trying to get X and Jay-Z to release those albums in the same year, and Bad Boy was still doing its thing then they're Puff Daddy and the Family Tour. They went on their own arena tour, they made 15 million that year, and Puff was starting to extend himself in the same way that we saw other moguls do the same.We talked in the Roc-A-Fella episode about, this was the time that Dame Dash had started to have different partnerships in film and district and sports and things like that. We saw Master P as well in the late 90s get his hand involved with a number of things. And one of the things that stuck out from this era is that Sean, is that, did he actually made a partnership with Johnny Cochran at the time, who was his attorney during all of the drama that he had in the late 90s after that nightclub shooting. And they started a management business that was gonna be focused on NBA players. And this just gives you an idea of all of the things that he was interested at the time.So it really is remarkable. And a lot of it came because Diddy himself was putting himself out there. He became the brand, it was him putting it on, and he really became the most successful artist on this label. But around this time, if you start talking to some of the other artists on the label, they start to get a bit frustrated because they feel it's no longer about their development.It is now about Puff building and doing everything for himself.[00:39:36] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, and I think that's when you know, he really starts to have all these brand extensions and, you know, you can see there's actually, I think the first Forbes cover on a hip hop artist was Puffy in 1999. And, it was a celebrity issue. And they had, Puffy and Jerry Seinfeld on the cover together, which always cracks me up.But, you know, Seinfeld's wearing this suit and Puffy's got this like Sean John denim t-shirt on. you know, just like a walking advertisement on the front of this magazine, which is just brilliant. And, you know, so he is got that going. He's like opening restaurants, you know, and like really kind of like realizing that, he could be not only the sort of the straw that stirs the drink and like the producer and whoever behind the scenes, but also the, you know, the main artist.And you know, I can imagine that being another artist on Bad Boy at this point, could start to get a little frustrating.[00:40:28] Dan Runcie: Right. And I think he had a quote around the time he wanted to be David Geffen. He wanted to be bigger than David Geffen. And of course this was Pete Geffen making moves with Dreamworks and everything else. Still being, in many ways, music's prominent mogul. That was due his thing there. And this was around the same time that we have another quote from, Andre Harrell.And I remember if you mentioned earlier, or if I mentioned earlier, there were some other quotes at the time that were less favorable than Diddy, than the ones that Harrell ended up having later. This was one of them. He said, and this was in a New York Times 1999 interview. He, Puff, gotta separate the young man thing from the business thing.If there's an incident where the situation is going in a way that he feels slighted or disrespected, the only way for him to handle it is as if he was a 45 year old IBM, CEO, which is a very interesting way. But he's essentially saying, Hey, you gotta change your act based on where you're going and where things are.And this is, that trending the line that we're talking about that I think that Diddy was eventually able to get to. But there was still some question marks about that and the trajectory in 1999. But to some extent, I think that kind of played to as factor. There was something about, especially some of those celebrities you mentioned, these are some more buttoned up, you know, white celebrities that never really did much on a, anything that was risky.So someone that has the image of Puff at that time, it's like, Ooh, I'm doing this risky thing. It's almost like the person in high school that wants to date the Bad Boy literally called his label bad voice. So they're leading into that whole persona, and I think it worked a bit to his advantage there as well.[00:42:07] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, totally. And you know, another thing people talk about, you know, I think that this time, and a lot of times I think there's a lot of jealousy going around and, you know, Puffy does this, puffy does that. But, know, one of the things that I, that I've always heard is that, Like, yeah, he's the last one at the club and you know, he's always out and, doing whatever, but he's also the, first one in, like, he outworks everybody and you know, he's somehow manages on, you know, like a couple hours of sleep at night or something.I mean, this is another thing you sometimes hear about fantastically successful people. I hear about this, about like Richard Branson and other people too, that they just can operate on four hours of sleep or something like that. And man, you know, I mean, if you think about it, if you have that much confidence and you're that brilliant, and then also you get an extra four hours a day, you know, you get another, was it, 28 hours a week, you get like an extra day every week basically to just like do shit.that's pretty hard to, contend with. I mean, like an extra day, like two extra waking days, to get things done. I mean, that, that's a pretty big advantage.[00:43:13] Dan Runcie: That was a whole 90s mentality from, overall, from people that were successful. Now that I'm thinking about it, cuz of course Richard Branson, that the 90s was a transformational decade for him. You are Bill Clinton, especially when he was president, talk about getting four or five hours of sleep at night, still being able to operate and do his thing.Even folks like Madeline Albright, who worked for him and in his cabinet were doing the same thing. And even someone like Kobe Bryant, there's that memorable. A piece of the Redeem Team documentary that came out on Netflix last year, where the younger guys at the time, LeBron, Bosh, Wade, were all going out to the club.Were all gonna go out for the night because that Olympics was in Beijing and they're coming back from the club and Kobe's on his way to the gym in the morning. And then Kobe spoke about this himself as well. He is like, no, I'm gonna do another practice to wake up earlier than everyone else. So you think about how this compounds over time, and that's what you're saying about how that essentially gives you two, three extra days a week.You do that time and time again, and just how much better you get. Granted the fact that those people can still do that while not requiring that much sleep. I know. I mean, I couldn't do that myself. I need those hours of sleep, but I commend those people that can.[00:44:25] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. I mean, and who knows, you know, from a health perspective, how it affects you, you know, sort of like later in life and whatever. And, you know, do you lose more years of your life on the tail end because you didn't sleep more earlier? I mean, I guess we'll never really know, and it's hard to kind of pull out the factors and really test that. But in any case, you know, it does give a decided advantage, at least in the, present tense. And, he really kind of like worked with that. but you know, I mean, and then just when you thought that he was kind of out of the woods, with the specter of violence, you know, again, 1999, there's the whole thing in the club, a gun goes off, you know, there's this whole like, situation, Diddy and Shine are in the club. There's this dispute, whatever, and you know, who knows what really happened, but at the end of it, Shine went off to go to jail. And, you know, and Diddy ended up, you know, without really any kind of anything other than like, a little bit of reputational hit.So, I think that, you know, he continued to walk that line, right? And there were just these instances kept popping up. But once again, he always managed to sort of, you know, avoid any really serious repercussions and then, you know, go on to some even bigger and better commercial thing, shortly thereafter, you know, which he did eventually with Ciroc and, what have you.But, you know, it didn't really seem to hurt anything with Bad Boy. Although I think around that time, you know, his career as a solo artist started faltering a little bit to be sure[00:45:42] Dan Runcie: And I think this is a good time to talk about the proverbial Bad Boy curse that's been discussed. There are a number of artists that have had their issues with Bad Boys, specifically with Diddy in terms of whether they feel like they were fairly compensated for things. And it's artists like Faith Evans 112, Mark Curry, and the Locks as well as most recently as a couple years ago, Mase famously people that have publicly claimed to try to get what's theirs called out Diddy for not doing certain things.And then on the flip side, you have people that surrounded themselves with Diddy, and Diddy was the one that came out, scott free, and they were the ones that ended up in challenges and some of that Diddy benefited from by associating himself with them, but they didn't necessarily work outta that same way.You of course mentioned Shine, who, his career never really took off after he had that brief moment where that Bad Boy song came out. I think that was in 2000. They had sampled that, the Barrington Levee reggae song and then had him on that. But you had a few instances like that. I look back on one of my favorite songs from The Bad Boy era.let's Get It with G. Dep and Black Rob. And the sad part about that song is that you have G. Dep, the first person that was. Or essentially his lead single, he's saying that he's saying, or he did special delivery as well. G. Dep eventually ended up being locked up for a murder that he had done in the 90s, but then it had some run-ins after that Black Rob unfortunately passed away a few years ago, and I don't think was ever really able to capture that momentum after Whoa. And a few of the other songs he had with Bad Boy had come out. And then of course you had Diddy who, you know, is still thriving doing his thing.And I think that's true as well. You look at an artist like Lone who l kind of had his moment where they were trying to make lone really be a thing, especially with the, I need a girl, part one and part two, but then Loon as well, ends up getting locked up. I think there was a heroin charge or something like that.So all of these folks that were around Diddy in some way ended up having their challenges. Not all of them, but some of them.[00:47:50] Zack Greenburg: For sure. And I think, you know, probably around this time, you know, the sort of like the turn of the millennium was, you know, the moment, when did he kind of realize that he had to, he did have to start figuring out his next step. And if it wasn't gonna be him, as an artist, you know, and it wasn't gonna be somebody else on his roster, it was gonna have to be something else. And so I think this is sort of like when you think about the Bad Boy era, you know, I don't know, I think about it as sort of like early 90s to late to, you know, to really the end of the decade. And although, you know, of course it went on and it continues to stay at different, you know, sort of capacities.It's like that was sort of the prime era. And, I think once the fortunes of the label became too closely intertwined with Diddy's as a solo artist, then when he stopped being such a big deal as a solo artist, the prospects of the of Bad Boy itself were a little bit more limited.[00:48:45] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Question for you. Do you think that, well, lemme take a step back. In the Cash Money episode that we talked about not just the disputes people have had with Birdman and Slim over the years, over disputes, but also the notorious reputation that they've built up. Do you feel like the reputation with Puff is similar in that way?And if it's different, why do you think so?[00:49:09] Zack Greenburg: So you mean Puff like the Cash Money sort of similarly having trouble paying people?[00:49:13] Dan Runcie: Yeah, Yeah, and whether that reputation has stuck with Puff the same way that it's clearly stuck with Bert and Slim.[00:49:21] Zack Greenburg: I think they both have, you know, or rather the three of them, I think it does follow them around, but in different ways. I mean, I think, I think with cash money, there's some element of it that's like, well, you know, I think their response to a lot of it is this stuff began when, you know, the things weren't properly papered up and, you know, nobody really knew how these things worked and blah, blah, blah.And you know, you can sort of agree with that or not, right? Or maybe you could say it is to some extent your responsibility to make sure things are paid up, you know, once you become that successful. but, you know, I think that Puff was sort of like, you know, Bad Boy was, done through Clive through real estate.It was done through a major label, sort of from the beginning. And, you know, I think you could argue actually that that's why Cash Money was ultimately worth more, like, was like a bigger source of the Williams Brothers wealth than Bad Boy ever was, for Diddy. And he had to go, you know, do these other things. But you know, like it wasn't as though there were no lawyers involved. It wasn't as though there wasn't some big record label apparatus. There absolutely was. And you know, so I, think that excuse sort of like, doesn't fly quite as much. it's probably not leveled quite as much with him either, but, you know, but it's definitely there and, it's sort of like, it's hard to look past it in some regards.[00:50:41] Dan Runcie: Yeah. I think that one of the reasons why I think the public image of it is different is because of the businesses that the two are involved in. Bird man's a music man almost in the same way that Clive Davis is a music man. That's what we know him as even in the conversation you had shared last time where you were doing this extensive feature profile with them on Forbes and you were gonna have another follow-up conversation with him that night, and he's like, no, no.Bird Man's still in the studio. He's doing his thing like that's what he wants to do versus Puff has his interest in all these other areas, beverages, spirits, sports, entertainment, now with Revolt or Sean John, or whatever it is. So there's so many more things we know him as, or he's running the New York City marathon, he's trying to launch this thing, and all of those things can broaden your image of him.So if you hear a complaint about the one particular aspect of this business, that's one area of what he's doing, as opposed to us knowing Bird and Slim as. The owners of this record label, and now there's a dispute with the one thing that we know them for.[00:51:49] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. Okay. I see what you mean. So it's sort of like, in a way it's less central like the music is less central to his identity, therefore we hear less about the disputes because we just hear less about the music side overall.[00:52:01] Dan Runcie: Right.[00:52:02] Zack Greenburg: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, and then, when you look at what happened to Bad Boy, you know, even just from a corporate perspective, it was a 2005, he sold 50% of it to Warner for 30 million bucks, something like that.So, obviously that, means, you know, by those numbers it was worth 60 million. At the time there was probably just the recorded music side and there was publishing as well, which is separate. I think you did some other publishing deals too, but you know, that number in 2005, I mean, I'm sure that's lower than.Cash money was valued at in 2005. But, you know, he just kind of made the decision to pull some money off the table, right? And I think that says some, something about his priorities too, that he wasn't that focused on the music side of things. So, you know, like, let's make this deal and then move on, to the next thing.And I think a couple years after that was when he launched Ciroc or, you know, came on with Ciroc and launched his Ciroc campaign presence, whatever you wanna call it. you know, partnership thing. So, I think ultimately for Bad Boy, you know, I think it had a peak that was as high as really, you know, any label, in hip hop did.But its fortunes became so wrapped up with Puffy that once, once he moved away from music, it's like, how are you ever really gonna come back from that?[00:53:15] Dan Runcie: Right. It really wasn't a business it was a business, but almost in the same way that a lot of people that are creators now and trying to do things, there's this ongoing discussion or debate they have about whether are you trying to build a business with a roster around you, or is this more so a soul entity?And I think Bad Boy definitely saw both of those things, but you normally seen in the flip side where you start with the lead person being known as the thing, and then they add the roster around them. But Bad Boy was kind of the opposite, where you had this roster and then it becomes the lead person becoming more known for the thing.[00:53:48] Zack Greenburg: And I think it moved away from that assembly line idea, you know, the Motown thing, the Coachella thing, whatever, you know, you're gonna, buy the tickets for, you know, who's there. It just became all about Puff and, you know, I think in a way he realized it was more lucrative that way, right? N o matter how involved he was in however many different pro projects as sort of the, the Berry Gordy, he could make more, you know, for himself being Puff. And in a way, when you look at Ciroc, it's like, you know, it's the same thing, right? Like he's selling the Art of celebration. He's selling his brand of success. He just doesn't have to sign other artists to it, you know? So I see has Ciroc Boys, you know, that's, I mean, it is almost like a record label to some extent, you know, if you like an extension of, Bad Boy. If you think about, you know, the different artists who are kind of like involved on some level, you know, over the years with that brand, it just, you don't have to get involved in like publishing and, you know, licensing and mechanical royalties and all of that fun stuff.[00:54:50] Dan Runcie: Right. And I think with that it's a good chance to talk about some of these categories we have here. So what do you think is the best signing that Bad Boy did?[00:54:59] Zack Greenburg: I think a hundred percent, you gotta go with Biggie, no doubt. I mean, you know, if you're calling the signing $500,000 to get him over from uptown, you know, plus whatever they ended up paying him. I mean, you think about the success of Life after Death and all the other albums and, you know, the albums that, were sort of in the hopper after he died.I mean, I think hard to top that.[00:55:19] Dan Runcie: Agreed. Yeah, No debates there. That was the same one. What do you think is the best business move to come from Bad Boy?[00:55:26] Zack Greenburg: I would, I would argue that, I would argue Sean John because, you know, in creating the Bad Boy image, that was, you know, really bankrolled like all those videos, obviously Bankrolled by Arista, bankrolled by, you know, the, parent company, you know, Puffy created this aura around himself, which was very fashion oriented.And then he was able to parlay that into creating, you know, an actual fashion brand that he owned, or at least, you know, partially owned and himself, which then generated hundreds of billions of dollars. And then he sold and got, you know, whatever it was, a hundred million dollars and he bought it back.but anyway, he did really well for himself. I think with the help of this shine that was kind of like given or enabled at least, by a Bad Boy.[00:56:13] Dan Runcie: Yeah, I think that's a good one. The other thing that I wanna give some love to, that we haven't talked about much yet, but was the Bad Boy Street team and how they went about promoting and pushing their records all over the major cities. A lot of people may think that Bad Boy invented to the street team.I think I still do give loud of records credit for that, but Bad Boy did take things to another level, and this goes back to Puff and his strength as a promoter. This is what Club promoters do. This is how you push and get the word out there. So he's able to replicate himself. He's able to empower the people to feel like they're part of Bad Boy himself and making sure that they're styled in the same way, to be able to help sell that same image that Puff wants to sell himself.And you saw him replicate this as well with Ciroc Boys and things like that. And shout out to Sean Perez, who worked with Puff at Bad Boy and on Ciroc on this same strategy.[00:57:07] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. Although, you know, it was a great one, and a great strategy, but it didn't always work. What's the line? I felt like Bad Boys Street team, I couldn't work. the locks.True.[00:57:19] Dan Runcie: Yeah. Usually worked. But yeah, they just needed to see the vision as they said. what's the best dark horse move? You have a good one for this.[00:57:27] Zack Greenburg: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. maybe a little controversial. I don't know. I'm gonna go shine. Because if Paul hadn't signed Shine, I mean, I don't know, you know, I'm not a lawyer or anything, but, all I know is that something went down in that

Discover the masterminds behind the infamous OJ Simpson defense dream team and the strategies that led to his acquittal in the thrilling conclusion of our three-part series. You'll be captivated by our in-depth exploration of the expertise of each team member, including Johnny Cochran, F Lee Bailey, Barry Sheck, Peter Neufeld, Alan Derschwitz, Robert Shapiro, and Sean Holly, and how the iconic line "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit" became a pivotal moment in the trial.We also dive deep into the racial dynamics that played a significant role in the case, taking a closer look at prosecutor Christopher Darden's responsibility for the infamous glove incident and the advice he received from Marcia Clark. Learn about former Los Angeles district attorney Gilbert Garcetti's meeting with former president Jimmy Carter, and how OJ enlisted the help of a mock jury to strategize for the trial. Finally, reflect on the lasting impact of the OJ Simpson trial and its intersection with celebrity culture in this gripping episode. From Christopher Darden's role in the glove incident, Mark Furman's involvement in the case, and Johnny Cochran's powerful closing statements, to the controversial aftermath of the not guilty verdict, we'll leave you with a newfound understanding of one of the most talked-about trials in American history.Support the showIf you're interested in receiving bonus episodes, early release dates, an everything scary sticker and ‘thank you' as well as a shout out on our regular feed! Please join at Patreon//everythingscarypod571

We wrap up the O.J. murder case with our 3rd and final episode. In part 2, we heard the prosecution's case and ended with the defense getting ready to claim that the police planted evidence and was racist towards Simpson. That is where we begin with this episode and we take it to the end of the trial which spawns the infamous Johnny Cochran quote "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit." We end on the unbelievable verdict and the reaction across the country following it. We want to know what you think of the trial. Was O.J. guilty or did the cops plant evidence? Email us at bangdangpodcast@gmail.com or find us on Twitter @OGMMPodcastand let us know!

A 2-part series with researcher, educator, and licensed psychologist Dr. Lenore Walker who coined the term "battered woman syndrome." Dr. Walker has spent more than 4 decades investigating violence against women, publishing peer-reviewed research and authoring several books including "The Battered Woman Syndrome" now in its 4th edition.Together we explore the progress and pitfalls in the domestic violence movement since the 1980s including the emergence of advocacy and shelters for survivors, the evolution of psychotherapy for PTSD and trauma, and the work of the family court system. In part 2, we dive into her controversial work for the defense during the OJ Simpson trial and how that experience led to breakthroughs for domestic violence research findings, publications, prosecutions and how we talk about domestic violence.Dr. Lenore Walker is a licensed psychologist in several states and Board Certified in Clinical Psychology and in Couples and Family Psychology by the American Board of Professional Psychology. She has practiced all over the U.S. and in several other countries around the world. She earned her doctoral degree in psychology from Rutger's, The State University in N.J. in 1972 after attaining an M.S. in Psychology from City College of the City University of New York (CCNY) in 1967 and a B.A. from Hunter College of CCNY in 1962. In 2004, she earned an M.S. in Clinical Psychopharmacology from Nova Southeastern University. She is a retired professor of psychology at Nova Southeastern University and the author of multiple articles and books, including her most recent novel, "Madness to Murder."

A 2-part series with researcher, educator, and licensed psychologist Dr. Lenore Walker who coined the term "battered woman syndrome." Dr. Walker has spent more than 4 decades investigating violence against women, publishing peer-reviewed research and authoring several books including "The Battered Woman Syndrome" now in its 4th edition.Together we explore the progress and pitfalls in the domestic violence movement since the 1980s including the emergence of advocacy and shelters for survivors, the evolution of psychotherapy for PTSD and trauma, and the work of the family court system. In part 2, we dive into her controversial work for the defense during the OJ Simpson trial and how that experience led to breakthroughs for domestic violence research findings, publications, prosecutions and how we talk about domestic violence.Dr. Lenore Walker is a licensed psychologist in several states and Board Certified in Clinical Psychology and in Couples and Family Psychology by the American Board of Professional Psychology. She has practiced all over the U.S. and in several other countries around the world. She earned her doctoral degree in psychology from Rutger's, The State University in N.J. in 1972 after attaining an M.S. in Psychology from City College of the City University of New York (CCNY) in 1967 and a B.A. from Hunter College of CCNY in 1962. In 2004, she earned an M.S. in Clinical Psychopharmacology from Nova Southeastern University. She is a retired professor of psychology at Nova Southeastern University and the author of multiple articles and books, including her most recent novel, "Madness to Murder."

Johnny joins me on Friendly Fire to discuss his run for a US Congress seat.Bill Review:CAFTA &  Exempting tips and gratuity from income taxSources / Referenced Material:John Cochran website

In the season 3 finale, The Supporting Cast welcomes Tony and Emmy Award winning actor Courtney B. Vance. In this episode, Courtney speaks about growing up in Detroit during the 1960s and 1970s and attending an independent school, Detroit Country Day, before heading to Harvard and then Yale School of Drama. In addition to discussing his career as an actor, Courtney describes many of the broader themes that have impacted both his family and his creativity, such as race, mental health, education, and criminal justice. Among the most noteworthy of Courtney's roles was playing O.J. Simpson defense attorney Johnny Cochran on FX's "The People v. O.J. Simpson," for which Courtney won an Emmy in 2016. Courtney describes finding his connection to Cochran through their shared experience of being “the only Black kid at an all-White School” and therefore also sharing, in his mind, both the experiences and skill sets that helped Johnny to understand O.J., and Courtney to understand Johnny. Courtney references George Brown, Kay Slaughter, and Beverly Hannett-Price of Detroit Country Day and Earle Gister and Lloyd Richards of Yale School of Drama as profound educational influences.

We wrap up the O.J. murder case with our 3rd and final episode. In part 2, we heard the prosecution's case and ended with the defense getting ready to claim that the police planted evidence and was racist towards Simpson. That is where we begin with this episode and we take it to the end of the trial which spawns the infamous Johnny Cochran quote "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit." We end on the unbelievable verdict and the reaction across the country following it. We want to know what you think of the trial. Was O.J. guilty or did the cops plant evidence? Email us at bangdangpodcast@gmail.com or find us on Twitter @OGMMPodcastand let us know!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/show/outlaws-gunslingers/support.

I sat down with a long time with Johnny is he gave me his views and ideas on how he thinks the government should run. And that is less government in the lives of people. Johnny said he would be the AOC of the Libertarians if we send him a congress. He has a lot of ideas that he wants to see implemented and this would be a great lesson for those of y'all who said the same principles of smaller government less taxes and --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

In this episode, Billboard Top Entertainment Attorney James Walker, Jr. talks about how he secured 61 entertainment clients in two years under a big corporate firm before launching his own practice out of his basement after a personal conversation with the late super-lawyer Johnny Cochran. He also discusses the risks behind signing record deals, freeing artists from bad contracts, and one of his latest legal victories involving the hit song "Focus" by R&B superstar H.E.R.  

 After weeks and weeks, hours upon hours of testimony. We watched every min of it.  Now the verdict is in.  Special guest "The Judge" and Dutch break down the case, trial and testimony to Del in this Johnny Depp/Amber Heard exclusive episode.  So grab a mega pint, a hand full of pills, maybe a jar of cocaine and let's do this!With No Due Respect S04E08 (Objection Hearsay!)SHOW NOTES:Johny Depp & Amber Heard TrialBenjamin Rottenborn seen here prepping to object to his own line of questioning"The Sun" ArticleAmber Heard's "Washington Post" ArticleHarvey WeinsteinCamille VasquezJohnny Depp celebrating his victory in Newcastle PubKate Moss testifies at the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trialDepp's attorney losing his shit when Heard says "Kate Moss""My Dog Stepped on a Bee"Depp's vaping witnessOJ Simpson trialKato KaelinRobert ShapiroJohnny CochranMarcia ClarkRobert KardashianDr. Hughes (Amber's Psych Witness) VS. Dr. Curry (Johnny's Psych Witness)Wacky Dr. SpiegelBella ThorneJohnny Depp in some white face paintRobert PattinsonCoco GauffMadison KeysMel GibsonWalter HamadaTed Cruz signaling "1 door"Trump at NRA convention with his hands up...don't shoot

With all the High-profile instances of law enforcement behaving badly have made the issue of police accountability a priority. Too often abuses of power by the police, whether through excessive force, profiling, stop and frisk or other tactics, even if caught on tape, go unpunished. Therefore this week's conversation will be focus strategies to advocate for change! The Justice for Gerard Movement presents….. TURNING A MOMENT INTO A MOVEMENT! Friday April 22, 2022 6pm EDT So join Jay Love Host, -Attorney Hugo Mack, -Trischè Duckworth, -Alexanderia Hughes -Rev Tia Littlejohn along with our guest: Attorney David Robinson Robinson and Associates P.C. 28145 Greenfield Road Suite 100 Southfield, MI 48073 248-423-7234 248-423-7227 (fax) Topic: Advocating for Police Accountability "Community Accountability" Addressing Harm, Hurt and Healing for Safer Communities pt 3" David A. Robinson was born in Detroit, Michigan. Attorney Robinson worked for the Detroit Police Department both as an officer and an attorney. He served the Detroit Police Department for 13 years, as legal advisor to the department. He also defended officers in civil litigation. As part of his responsibilities, he was required to teach the legal section to recruits in the Detroit Metropolitan Police Academy. During these same years, Attorney Robinson obtained a part-time teaching position at Wayne State University Criminal Justice Department. Attorney David Robinson has litigated in the area of police misconduct for both defense and plaintiffs. He has taken, to settlement or verdict, hundreds of police misconduct matters involving the gamut of wrongful arrests to wrongful deaths at the hands of police officers. He has litigated cases in federal court and circuit courts in the tri-county areas as well as courts in the states of Ohio and Louisiana. David associated with Johnny Cochran, Barry Scheck, and Peter Neufeld (of O.J. Simpson fame), in the wrongful conviction case of Eddie Joe Lloyd, which resulted in a settlement of $4,000,000. This case also resulted in an agreement whereby the City of Detroit conceded that all interrogations and interviews of suspects in serious offenses will be recorded, including police chase cases, accident cases and other police shooting cases not resulting in death. In addition, Attorney Robinson has litigated cases involving the death of pre-trial detainees in Detroit jails which resulted in six and seven figure settlements. The Detroit Jailhouse litigation was instrumental in the closure of the 8th and 9th floors of the DPD lockups. David has also represented citizens who were wrongfully held as witnesses by DPD homicide. These cases were brought under federal civil rights statutes and demonstrated the abject failure of the DPD homicide section to honor the Constitutional rights of Detroit citizens. These cases have resulted in settlements; the most egregious among them was one that involved the wrongful arrest and detention of more than 40 citizens in the investigation of a single homicide. Attorney David Robinson has authored a book on the subject called “You See a Hero, I see a Human Being.” It is available at momentumbooks.com and Amazon. The E-book is available at iTunes. Website: www.davidarobinsonlaw.com www.change.org/Justice4Gerard

Glenn Horowitz is an agent in the sale and placement of culturally significant archives to research institutions throughout the United States.  Authors, artists, musicians, designers, and photographers represented include Bob Dylan, Norman Mailer, James Salter, Eve Babitz, Deborah Eisenberg, David Foster Wallace, Vladimir Nabokov, and many more.   We spoke recently via Zoom about his practice: what he does and how he does it. Topics covered include polyps; making bookseller websites accessible to the disabled; looking for and selling value; Sting and estates; the disappearance of printed bookseller catalogues; the human touch; Hemingway; unique copies; avoiding book fairs and bookseller associations; nostalgia; unorthodox archives; the Kitchen Sisters; unused video games; the fact that every bookseller is now an archives dealer;  Against The Tide Commentaries On A Collection Of African Americana 1711-1987; Johnny Cochran; and much more. 

The ism is heavy! Diego and M.O. are back another week live from The Playas Club to drop their unique blend of gems on everything under the sun. This week they discuss Harder They Fall movie, why is BLACK SKIN so scary, Jada Pinkett full of cap, Zazie Beets or Tessa Thompson and so much more!!! Leave us voice comments in the comments section, call the hotline at (916) 538-4190 to leave text messages and voicemails or hit us up by email at wesomeplayas@outlook.com Shoutout to our sponsors Jack The Spiritual advisor, for card readings text (405) 437-1550, Blue Gloves LLC for commercial and residential cleaning call (616) 752-0289 Subscribe to the show, rate our show with five stars and review the show as well. It really helps us out with the algorithm and sponsors #WeSomePlayas #WSP #DubDollaSignP #PlayasClubAlumni #AudioDopeKingpins #SilverSurferWave --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/wesomeplayas/message

How do you know where to buy the property? By finding the sweet spots! Mitch Stephen's guest in this episode is Johnny Cochran, the CEO of The King of Systems. Sweet spots are based upon how much buyer activity is going on into a particular zone. Take those areas where you know there are a lot of buyer activity, then start marketing to sellers in those areas. Want more advice on how and where to buy the property? You wouldn't want to miss this episode. Tune in!Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and share!Here's How »Join the Real Estate Investor Summit Community:reinvestorsummit.comReal Estate Investor Summit FacebookReal Estate Investor Summit TwitterReal Estate Investor Summit YouTubeMitch Stephen LinkedIn

Four guests join me for this important episode: Matthew Ory, Preston Hayes, Barry Sartin Jr., and David Ardoin. All are highly-respected civil & criminal attorneys who offer litigation services to individuals and businesses.Matt Ory & David Ardoin have been working together for 10 years at AMO Trial Lawyers. Their practice areas are: criminal defense, medical malpractice, and personal injury.Preston Hayes & Barry Sartin Jr. are partners at HMS Law Firm, where they help clients primarily with business litigation, construction law, personal injury and trial presentation.In this episode, we focus the first hour on Hurricane Ida: the recovery, price gouging, importance of keeping a paper copy of your insurance policy—which Matt believes is the most simplistic lesson learned from this recent storm to hit Louisiana). Why is that? Reason is your homeowners' policy will be needed when contacting an insurance adjuster following a major storm.My guests also give recommendations on what you should do before & after a hurricane. For example, when should you give proper notice to your insurance agent or broker that you've experienced a loss you believe to be covered by insurance.We discuss the importance of documentation when building an insurance claim. Since you'll have to prove damages you've incurred—it is most crucial that you take photographs and videos. That's because the more information you can provide to your insurance provider, the better they're able to help you.But this episode isn't all serious business. No, in fact, this episode resembles a mullet—all business in the front and a ton of fun on the back end.Per usual, we finish with Fun Questions. but then we try something new. I ask Final Jeopardy questions, most of which are Dream Team-related. Whether that means Johnny Cochran and Kim & Chloe's dad, or Michael Jordan in Barcelona, you'll have to tune in to find out.This was a very informative episode. Way I see it. Anytime you can get this much brain-power in one room you turn yourself into a sponge—ask as many questions as you can and get out of the way. If you were at all negatively impacted by Hurricane Ida, or think you might be affected by a natural disaster in the future—this is an episode you don't want to miss.I learned a lot, hope you do too.

This week, your hosts Steve Lowry and Yvonne Godfrey interview Gregorio "Greg" Francis of Osborne & Francis, PLLC (https://www.realtoughlawyers.com/).   Remember to rate and review GTP in iTunes: Click Here To Rate and Review   Episode Details: Award-winning Florida trial lawyer Gregorio "Greg" Francis of Osborne & Francis, PLLC shares his experience serving as lead counsel for nearly 20,000 African-American farmers who received disparate treatment from the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), resulting in the largest settlement of a civil rights case in the history of the American Civil Justice system. Widely known as the “Pigford” or "Black Farmers" cases, this national class action lawsuit sought to address the racial discrimination Black farmers experienced between 1981 and 1996, including the denial or delay of their applications for federal farm credit services, loans or benefit programs. Citing the USDA's internal report of a failed civil rights complaint management system and a lack of diversity in Farm Service Agency county-level commissioners, Greg was able to negotiate a record settlement with the USDA for $1.25 billion to be distributed to class members in the form of damages, forgiveness of debt owed to the USDA and/or a tax payment to offset the awarded funds. This historic settlement was reached on February 18, 2010. As part of the settlement, President Obama signed the Claims Resolution Act of 2010, which provided $1.15 billion to pay successful claims. In May 2021, Gregorio published Just Harvest, a book detailing these groundbreaking cases against the U.S. government. Click Here to Read/Download the Complete Trial Documents   Guest Bio: Gregorio "Greg" Francis Awarded the Vince Monroe Townsend Legends Award by the National Bar Association for historic leadership in the area of Civil Rights and designated as a Game Changer by Politic365. Gregorio (Greg) Antonio Francis currently serves as lead counsel for the historic Black Farmers case. This national class action challenged the ongoing disparate treatment of Black Farmers across the United States resulting in a $1.25 billion dollar settlement. Nearly 20,000 Black farmers or their descendants received the “JUSTICE” they had long demanded. In RE: Black Farmers is the largest settlement of a Civil Rights case in the history of the American Civil Justice system. Francis began his legal career in 1994 as an associate with a statewide defense firm specializing in medical malpractice defense, nursing home defense and municipal defense. In 2001, Francis joined the law firm of Morgan and Morgan, P.A., as a Partner, focusing his practice on medical malpractice, police misconduct, wrongful death and catastrophic personal injury cases. From 2004-2006, Morgan & Morgan, P.A., participated in a joint venture with famed trial lawyer Johnny Cochran to open an office in Miami, Florida where Francis served as the co-managing partner. After achieving great success with The Cochran Firm, Francis became a shareholder of Morgan & Morgan, P.A. As the firm expanded, Francis was instrumental in opening new offices in Atlanta, Georgia and Jackson, Mississippi. He held the position of managing partner for the Jackson, Mississippi office from its inception through 2014, Francis also served on the firm's Executive Committee. In 2018, Francis joined longtime friend and colleague Joseph A. Osborne in forming their own firm, Osborne & Francis, PLLC. The firm has offices in Boca Raton and Orlando. Their firm will focus primarily on product liability, medical device litigation, pharmaceutical litigation, medical malpractice and personal injury litigation. In addition to his professional achievements, Francis serves as a member of the Board of Trustees for Bethune Cookman University. Additionally, Francis has served as legal counsel to the Lay Ministry of the African Methodist Episcopal Church which boasts membership of over 3 million. In 2010, he was appointed to serve on the Ninth Circuit Judicial Nominating Commission by Governor Charlie Christ. Francis is very active at all levels of the National Bar Association having served on the Executive Board of the Florida Chapter and as President of the Paul C. Perkins Bar Association from 2001-2003. In the community, Francis is an active member of the Kappa Alpha Psi Winter Park Chapter and was recently featured in the Kappa Journal, RYSE Magazine and Onyx Magazine for his contribution to the local community and for his national accomplishments. Mr. Francis was born in the Panama Canal Zone and moved to the United States as a young child. He graduated from Oak Ridge High School with honors in 1986. Francis then earned a Bachelor of Arts in Criminal Justice from the University of Florida in 1991, and a Juris Doctorate in 1994 from the University of Florida Law School, where he was a Virgil Hawkins Fellow. In law school, he received writing and oral honors in Appellate Advocacy and was named to the Dean's List. He was appointed as a Justice for the University of Florida Board of Masters, the highest Appellate Court for student disciplinary matters, and rose to the level of Senior Presiding Justice in 1994. He was also a member of the Frederick Douglas Moot Court Team and Publishing Editor for the UMDJA Law Journal. As a result of his academic achievements and extracurricular activities, he was inducted into the prestigious Florida Blue Key Leadership honorary society. Currently, Francis volunteers his time to a number of local non-profit organizations. Most recently, he launched his own philanthropic platform, Believing In Good, which funds and hosts an annual “For the Kids” toy drive where he returns to the neighborhood of his childhood and distributes Christmas gifts to the children. He serves on the Board of Trustees for St. Mark AME, is a member of the Orlando Chapter of 100 Black Men of America and a Board member for Nap Ford Charter School. Francis is married to the former Keisha Berry, has a daughter, Grier, a son, Gregorio II (Rio), and resides in Windermere, Florida. Read Full Bio   Show Sponsors: Legal Technology Services - LegalTechService.com Digital Law Marketing - DigitalLawMarketing.com Harris Lowry Manton LLP - hlmlawfirm.com   Free Resources: Stages Of A Jury Trial - Part 1 Stages Of A Jury Trial - Part 2

The Wolf And The Shepherd continue their discussion covering a wide variety of topics including the importance of sleep, doing nothing, why golf is the best sport to have on in the background, why riding a bicycle as an adult is preposterous, why Tesla drivers are lonely, the awkwardness of the happy birthday song, why the Dave Matthews Band is the worst band in the world, why Spotify playlists are better than buying songs one at a time, the invention of lighter lawnmowers so women can mow the grass, the need for robot vacuums, the main reason to have kids, therapeutic dishwashing, famous authors, whether or not gifts are surprises, missing pieces of board games, dressing up donkeys as unicorns, stranded on a desert island with Salma Hayek and Tulsi Gabbard, going back in time, hobbies that become professions, computers from BBC, regifting, the continued wait for the new Xbox, the cheerleader effect, slug eyebrows and fake eyelashes, needs versus wants, improper use of turn signals, the need for a new Johnny Cochran to defend the Shepherd, and why the creation of cereal from wood is the best superpower that a superhero could have.

This week's episode is super special because we welcome our very first guest! Since Kat is visiting her brother, we welcome Matt Baggeroer to our show this week. He's super fun and has interesting thoughts on this case, and since it's such a heavy hitter and so well known, what better case to have a guest! Apologies for the poor audio quality on Kat and Matt's part. They shared one microphone oops. Obviously we know the quote "if it doesn't fit, you must aquit" by Johnny Cochran, OJ's defense lawyer, but do you know exactly what happened to Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman? Do you know the build up, the timeline, or the aftermath? Well, we discuss this and more. This includes our own personal takes on the guilt or innocence of "the Juice".  And, to make it fun, we added a little bet for our guest. Let us know what you think! Check out our instagram at @murdermysterymacncheese If you're interested in the videos discussed on the episode, you can find them on youtube. Thanks for listening!

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Some people know Madam Nselaa Ward as the former notorious attorney during Black Lives Matter who defied the system, or one of the top female Slam Poets in the world, or the professional troublemaker for the National Organization for Women. But people that have heard her speak in person know that this wasn't always her story. Before she became Nselaa Ward, Juris Doctor she was Caramel, the sex worker. When you hear her speak live she tells an addictive story of resilience and how you can be your own superhero, even when the world thinks you're a villain. People have seen her on TLCs reality TV show “She's in Charge,” CNN, CSPAN, BET and on the stage of the March for Women's Lives. Learn more about Madam Nselaa Ward. Learn more about The Passionistas Project. Full Transcript: Passionistas: Hi, and welcome to the Passionistas Project Podcast, where we talk with women who are following their passions to inspire you to do the same. We're Amy and Nancy Harrington. And today we're talking with Madam Nselaa Ward. Some people know her as the former notorious attorney during Black Lives Matter who defied the system or one of the top female slam poets in the world, or the professional troublemaker for the National Organization for Women, the largest women's organization in the world. But people that have heard her speak in person know that this wasn't always her story. Before she became Nselaa Ward Juris Doctor, she was Caramel, the sex worker. When you hear her speak live, she tells an addictive story of resilience and how you can be your own superhero even when the world thinks you're a villain. People have seen her on TLC's reality TV show "She's in Charge" and on CNN, C-SPAN, BET and the stage of the March for Women's Lives, the largest march in the history of the U S at its time. So please welcome to the show. Madam Nselaa Ward. We're so happy to have you here. Nselaa: I'm so excited to be here also. Like this is awesome. I'm glad you guys have me. Passionistas: What's the one thing you're most passionate about? Nselaa: Oh, the one thing that I'm most passionate about, um, is, you know, helping disenfranchised communities, um, get economic justice, economic justice is something that I'm, I'm really, really, really passionate about. Um, I've always believed that the revolution was financial. Um, I think that, um, race, gender, um, and class, it comes in a little bit later, but I think that the bottom line is really making sure that all communities have economic justice. Passionistas: So how do you do that? What, what kind of organizations are you involved with? Nselaa: I started out with the National Organization for Women. I've been active with the National Organization for Women for a few decades, uh, right now, um, they actually was a really, really big resource to me when I was transitioning over into my divine purpose. Um, like you guys said earlier, I, I wasn't always an attorney or a business architect. My story started off really as a, as a sex worker and in a, what I thought was a dark place at the time. But now I realized that it was a blessing in my life, uh, because it taught me so many lessons about resilience. Um, but they really helped me to transition between that life and my, you know, and the divine purpose that I was trying to walk into. So I was involved with the National Organization for Women as the national field director for women of color. So we went around organizing protests and demonstrations and educating people about women's rights and how they can make a difference, um, and impact. Uh, we actually organized the 2004 March for Women's Lives, um, which was the largest March, um, uh, Washington for its time. Um, and then since then after that, I became an attorney. Um, I did a lot of legal work, um, in criminal business and bankruptcy law. So, um, on the criminal aspect, I did a lot of work for our clients were involved in the Black Lives Matter movement and that work come through police brutality. Um, and during that time I was able to free over 300 years of black lives from the criminal industrial complex. So yay. Excited about that. Um, so I, in to, I mean, it definitely wasn't easy. There was a lot of, um, pushback that we got from, um, district attorneys, judges, attorney regulation, um, about some of the works that we were doing, the work that we were doing, I was in Colorado at the time. So there wasn't that many black attorneys and there definitely wasn't weren't that many black attorneys that were helping, um, black people. Uh, so there was definitely a lot of, a lot of pushback, a lot of contents of court, a lot of complaints, you know, disciplinary actions and things of that sort of. So, you know, we, we went through that journey, um, together. Um, during that time I also worked in business and bankruptcy law. So one of the things that I was able to really really, um, see in business and make whimsy laws, I was able to see some of the correlating factors that happen between small and mid-sized businesses before they got to the point of being the 80 to 90% that failed within three to five years. Um, and boom, being able to see those correlations, I was able to kind of figure out what the, the patents were in the defining factors, but unfortunately at the time, you know, law is really based on being reactive. It's not very proactive. And when you're in a reactive industry, you have to kind of wait until something bad happens. So I want it to be able to kind of step in early, before something bad happened and preventing them from getting to that place. So in 2015, I moved to Atlanta, Georgia and opened up my business architect firm, which actually works in that proactive stage and helping, um, businesses, entrepreneurs, small business owners to be able to have success in the business so that they don't get to that 80 to 90% of the businesses that fail. Um, and then now I'm also working with the international black business agenda. Um, so one of the main things that we work on is holding, uh, businesses in our community that have, um, historically contributed to the question of, of black people, holding them accountable, um, allowing them to make amends for the role that they've done in the past, as well as making sure that black people are getting the economic justice and, um, their share of the banking system in the United States. That is amazing, such incredible, powerful, impactful work. And we want to touch on every single one of those things that you just talked about. Let's start by going back a little bit, talking about your childhood, how you grew up and how that sort of influenced the choices you made later. Like I said, you know, I, I didn't really grow up as you know, on this pathway to being an attorney or being a business architect. In fact, um, I, you know, I, even though I knew that I wanted to be attorney ever since I was eight years old, I'm in bed. I wanted to be an attorney. I was in a third grade play. And, um, my teacher at the time, you know, they had different roles. And the role that I chosen was times that I wanted to be an attorney, but I didn't even know what an attorney was. And the time could tell that my teacher was trying to encourage me to do other things you outright say, you know, you can't be an attorney, but she was like, Oh, well, you can be the paralegal. You can be the secretary. How about me? This role over here? And you can be the mom and can be like, no, I want to be the attorney. I'm about to be the attorney. Uh, and, and, and this play right here. Right. So I wouldn't let her, you know, encourage me to do anything otherwise. And even though I didn't even know what it was at that point, because at that point, I just thought it was arguing. And I was like, I'm good at arguing. I can do that. You know? Um, but the fact that, you know, somebody didn't believe that I could do it gave me like this fire to prove to everybody that I will do it. Um, so I knew that I wanted to be an attorney ever since I was eight years old. Um, so it was always in the back of my mind. And what it did is it provided me a vision, you know, when I was going through some of the other aspects of my life. So when I was 11 years old, um, my mom actually, she got shot in a crack cocaine deal. Um, that went bad. She, um, it was around the Christmas holidays. And what I remember, you know, is that I was home with my brothers. I had, at that point, I only had two siblings. I had a brother that was about four years old at the time. And then I had a brother that was like a new born baby, just a few months old. Um, and you know, my mom was used to disappearing sometimes. Um, when, you know, when you have, if you've ever dealt with anybody in, in a crack cocaine community, you know, we, we called the missions, right. Admissions were when, you know, basically like they would disappear for a few days and just get high and they would come back like nothing happened, you know? And you'd be like, she'd been gone for like three days. You want to tell me where you man, what's going on. You know? So I was used to my mom going on these missions and disappearing. So that had been normalized. Um, but this particular time, it was around the Christmas holidays. And she had been gone for almost a couple of weeks at that time. And I remember my grandmother called me and she, um, she was like, you know, well, what did you guys get for Christmas? And I was like, we didn't get anything for Christmas. And she was like, what do you mean you didn't get anything for Christmas? Um, and I was like, we didn't get anything for Christmas. Mom didn't come home. And that was kind of a red flag to her. Cause she was like, wait a minute. Okay. She's not coming home. She always gets you something for Christmas. Something is wrong. And at the time all of my family members, I was in Charlotte, North Carolina at the time, but all my family members, um, they were in another part of the state. So my grandparents traveled up to Charlotte, um, to figure out what was going on. And they found that she was in a hospital and that's when we found out that she was shot. Um, and, uh, she ended up being paralyzed for a couple of years. She was bedridden. Um, fortunately she survived. They never told me, you know, um, that she got shot in the beginning. I just remember my cousins coming to the house. And they was like, I heard your mom got shot. I heard, you know, that she's in the hospital. And that was so scary to me. Cause I was like, what does that mean to get shot in the face? Is she dead? Like, is she like disfigured what's going on? You know? And I just remember being so afraid that she wouldn't come back, but eventually she did come back. Um, and when she did come back, she, like I said, she couldn't, she couldn't walk. She was bedridden for a couple of years. And that sent her into a depression where she fell really, really deep into her crack cocaine addiction. Um, and this kind of left me, you know, out, you know, in the world on my own. I moved with my grandmother, but she was really old at the time. And she really, um, she really couldn't control what was happening to the kids and what was happening in the neighborhood. In addition to having to take on this mom role, all of a sudden, um, and, and dealing with all my own personal self-esteem issues, self-esteem issues that come with being a black female, um, substantive issues that come with the world constantly telling you that you're not good enough, you know, and that, um, you know, that my value and my worth was less than other people in the world. Um, and one to be able to find that value, you know, I was introduced to a lot of people that were in the drug community that was like, Hey, I know how you can find value. Um, and that's kind of how I was introduced into the, the sex work industry, you know? Um, and it was a slow transition. Like initially it was just, you know, making sure that when I was with people that they show me that they weren't just using me by buying something right behind me, something, or taking me somewhere, or, you know, doing something nice that had some type of monetary value. And then when you're in this industry, you meet a lot of people that are trying to hustle you, you know, so over time, but what happened is that, you know, some, you know, when I would just trust them, okay, you have to buy this for me afterwards. You've got to take to this place. So you're going to have to get me this outfit or whatever the case may be. And then they would try to hustle you and they would, you know, sleep with you or have sex with you and then not do these things afterwards. So then I started having to learn how to require some form of payment upfront, you know, and then that transitioned to, okay, look, this is what it is. This is how much it costs. You know, I'm valuable and you're going to have to pay me to prove that I'm valuable. Um, and that kind of lasted on and off between, um, the ages of 12 and 19, you know? Um, and then eventually I was able to, um, walk into my divine purpose and I found the national organization for women and started working for, um, several other activist organizations. Passionistas: So what was that defining moment at 19 that helped you make that transition? Nselaa: Like I said, I always knew that I wanted to be an attorney, but it was certain points in my, um, in my career or in my life at that young age. Cause I wouldn't say I had a career, um, where I felt like it was, you know, there was no hope for it. I was like, man, you know, a lot of people know that, you know, I'm a sex worker, we didn't call it sex workers back then we just like holds prostitutes, you know, tricks, things of that sort. You know, I call it sex worker today just to be, you know, politically correct, you know, but um, people knew about it. You know, I had a lot of police contact at that point and I just thought that it was, I thought it was hot. I was like, there's no way I can, I can be an attorney at this point in my life. And, um, it was a series of things. One thing is that, you know, in, in the act of having a lot of, um, a lot of police contact, uh, at one point ahead, this public defender, you know, and, um, he was, he was a prop, it was a private attorney in the system at that point. Um, the state, instead of having a public defender's office, they just contracted private attorneys at reduced rates. So I was able to get quality legal care. Um, and, and, and not really having, you know, somebody that was overwhelmed and I was going through a case and he was able to get, um, me, uh, like a deferred prosecution. What people told me at the time, they was like, I was always very smart. I was able to go to the school of science and math, uh, when I was very young and at, when I was in 10th grade. And what that is is they take the top 2% out of each county and they take them to this school where they do, um, college courses. So, uh, he knew that I, you know, I was a little bit different, but he was like, you know, what, what is it that you want to do with your life? You know, why are you out here doing this? What's going on with you? You know? And I was like, well, I always wanted to be a lawyer, you know, but you know, that's just not going to happen now. You know, but that's what I wanted to do. And he's just like, sly he's, let me tell you something. He's like, I know people that have murdered people and become attorneys, you know, um, he was like, it's really about what your power is. He's like, when you go in and you want to be a lawyer and he said, you go, and you tell those law school committees that they can't tell you no. And he was like, you go in, you tell the attorney regulation board that they can't tell you. And he's like, don't let nobody tell you. No, just because you have a history, he was like, get that. That was the thing that sparked me like, Oh, is it really, is it still possible? Can I still be an attorney? Is he right? You know? Um, but then you just deal with my family members and the friends that was in my communities, we call them rock stars. Right. Um, because you know, my mom she'd get off with ever called anybody crack head or crack. She felt like that was an insult. She wouldn't let us do it. Right. So we called, um, people that were surviving, crack cocaine addiction. We call them rock stars. And they had this resilience where, you know, they wanted something to happen. They just would not take no for an answer. You know, my uncles and friends and family, they would come and ask me for like $5 every day. And I would tell them no a hundred times and I would see other people tell them, no, I, 100 times over and over and over again. And they would just come back the next day. But you never just told them no, I could just, they just kind of brushed it off their shoulder, you know? And I was like, okay, you know, if they could do it, you know, why am I so afraid of people telling me no, you know, they would just come back over and over again to finally be like, look, here's $5. Get out my face and be alone. Don't ask me again. Right. And I knew that they were affected by no, if I saw so many people that were already rejected from society. Right. And they weren't a favor afraid of failure. They were just like me. Right. Because I felt like some degree I was rejected from society because of the industry that I was in. I felt like if they weren't scared of no, then why would I be the worst thing they could do? And he goes, no, you know? So I started, you know, just, just going after life with this indifference of not being afraid of no. So going to law school, I did have to explain my history a hundred times. So a lot of different law schools, I ended up getting accepted to over 25 different undergrad schools, over 25 different law schools. When I, you know, having to explain to them like, okay, this happened, I was a sex worker. I have a criminal history. I came up in the crack cocaine community. That's okay. Cause I'm gonna be the best lawyer there is help there. And they told me no, several times they told me no so many times. And I just had to suck it up and keep going back. I know you told me no, but let me explain to you what I was offering again, because obviously you don't understand, you know? Um, so I just, I just had to get past that. No, I had to get past the fear of no. And you know, even though it gets harder, as you get older to get past that fear of no, because we have so much more to lose. There's so many more consequences as you get older. I still have to constantly remember that. You know, there's so many people that are depending on me to show the world that just because you come from this past, just because you, because you come from this background doesn't mean that nothing's possible. Something's not possible. You know, so I have to get past the no and not be afraid and you know, not stress out, you know, and just keep going, just keep pushing forward. Passionistas: So when you decided on this path to become an attorney, why did you, um, focus on the business and bankruptcy side of it? Nselaa: It was a happenstance, it was a happenstance because I knew in the beginning that I really wanted to do criminal law. That's what I always thought I wanted to do. Because first of all, that's what we see on TV. We see criminal attorneys, you know, we see all these like Johnny Cochran type individuals that are just slaying the system. But the other thing is that my family and my friends were always, um, they were always having police contact. I literally remember like the police coming into my house. I had to be maybe seven or eight years old and like wrestling with my mother. I'm not gonna say they beat her up because it wasn't like an outright beat up, but it was wrestling with my mother and they drug her out of the house and arrested her, took her to jail while I was there, had to be set. And they left me there by myself. And I always had this feeling like, man, I just, you know, if I could defend them, I would get all of my family members out and I would protect the neighborhood and I would protect the hood. I'm going to do this. Like, I always had bet that like, you know, desire to want to do that. Um, and I remember another time when my mom was going through a case, you know, later on down, because she had a lot of police contact as well. And she had the hardest time finding an attorney. And I remember like one of my school friends, um, in school, their father was an attorney. And I remember running to him court begging him, like, can you please represent my mom? You know, we can't get an attorney, you know? And, um, and he was like, I can't, you know, if she doesn't have the money, I there's nothing I can do. And I was like, I'm not going to be that person. I'm going to do this. I'm gonna do that. You know, so I knew I wanted to be a criminal attorney, but then when I got into criminal law, I realized that a lot of the reasons that they were even in these predicaments had to do with their, you know, their economic situation, you know, and dealing with the criminal aspect of it was just putting a bandaid on it because if they couldn't feed their families, if they were unnaturally secure, if they weren't financially illiterate, if they were able to take care of their businesses, then they were going to end back up there again, you know, because it made survival of the fittest. So I realized that this was just putting a bandaid on things. Um, at the time I ended up getting offered a job as a business slash you know, we did business in bankruptcy was just really kind of a corporate law firm, which I hated at the time, but it was a huge corporate law firm. And I was just kind of like this paper pusher, you know, and, you know, I was just doing all the background work, um, for the business and the bankruptcies that the cases that they had, but I was able to look at their files and then see some patterns. And I was like, okay, I want to do this on my own. Like, this is the missing, this is the missing key to these other criminal cases over here. I was like, Oh my God, I did not know that. Like, why is that just, you know, just hitting me right now. Right. So when I was able to work at that firm, you know, I was able to see those connections. And then, um, and I wanted to start my own firm because the problems that, you know, at that firm, they were charging 400, $500 an hour. And the people that I wanted to work with at the time couldn't afford to charge to pay four and $500 an hour for business or bankruptcy work. So I started my own law firm at the time, and I wanted it to be able to provide that financial security, that economic justice to the people that reminded me of home, you know, so that, that, that's how I ended up getting in it. What did think that was important to me, you know, um, is that I was able to work with people that were just like me, you know, to be able to find a different way. And one thing that I realized early on about, um, people that I grew up with is that the, you know, people that were traditionally sex workers, drug dealers, um, things of that sort, they had a very, very keen sense for business and they didn't even know it, you know, um, they, you know, the world had constantly told them, you know, that they were bad people, that they were not smart, that they were ignorant that they were criminals. So they go through life feeling like, okay, you know, I'm worthless. This is the only option that I have, but the same tools that we learned in sex work, you know, the same tools of being able to build a team, being able to build safety systems, um, being able to build systems, you know, within the business, how do you connect with customers? How do you connect with people? How do you handle supply and demand? How do you make sure that there's adequate distribution? All of these things were very similar things that we learned in the sex work industry, things that we learned, learned, you know, in, in the drug community. Um, but they were always constantly taught that, um, that they were bad and that they weren't worthy of anything. Um, so one of the things that I was able to do afterwards is to build programs. One is called, um, from Corner Blocks to Corner Offices, which primarily focuses on former sex workers and then help them to build, um, legitimate, legal businesses under the same principles that they used under sex work, you know, and make more money from it. Um, and then I have another program called from, um, Prison to President, which deals with former drug dealers, you know, that, um, and using the same principles that they had been. Um, so a lot of things is, you know, is that we've been conditioned to believe that this is all that we can do. And it's so ironic because, you know, we we're, we're seeing States right now, legalize, cocaine, heroin, things of that. So in addition to marijuana, um, you know, all of these things that we've been told was bad, and that was worthless, you know, and has limited us from being able to reach our highest potential. They're trying to make legal now. Um, but using those same principles to help people, um, to be able to really build something, an empire, a legacy that they can be proud of, but they're not gonna have to look over their shoulder, you know, about all the time and that they can use to take care of themselves and their families. So that, that was the, that was the work that I got the most joy in because it was like, I felt like I was working with my aunts and uncles and brothers and sisters, like it was like, you know, family oriented again. Um, you know, those, those, those are the ones, those are my favorite, you know, types of cases, um, in business architecture. And even when I was practicing law, they had their, their journeys with it as well. Let me tell you, you know, cause it's, uh, there's a mindset that you have to work through. Um, that's constantly, you know, at play because they've been told one thing all of their lives and you're, you're working against that. Um, so there are some challenges that come with it, but it's still, uh, still very rewarding and very exciting for me because it makes me feel like I'm building a legacy for my family. You know, one of the things, um, that I realized that I have been battling with for a very long time is, um, building family, you know, building rebuilding my family when I was younger, when I was, you know, between, you know, at the age of 11 or so, it felt like when my mom, um, was she was shot and when I had to move away, it felt like all of a sudden my family was torn apart. You know, like I had lost my family. Like I was separated from my mom. And then on top of that, you know, I was separated from my siblings at that point as well. Um, in addition to the fact that because my mom was going through her depression, she became very emotionally distant with me, you know? So, I had to learn over time that, you know, that that really affected my inner child very early on, you know, to always feeling like I had to rebuild my family some way. And I've noticed like through life, through the last few decades and different segments of my life, I've been trying to constantly rebuild my family. So that's one of my ways that I, I get my satisfaction is through, um, working through my, um, from Corner Blocks to Corner Offices and from Prison to President Passionistas: We're Amy and Nancy Harrington. And you're listening to the Passionistas Project Podcast and our interview with Madam Nselaa Ward. To learn more about Madam Ward and how she helps small business owners to thrive visit NiNavaFirm.com. That's N-I-N-A-V-A-F-I-R-M.com. Now here's more of our interview with Madam Ward. So let's shift gears a little, tell us how you got involved in the Black Lives Matter movement and what your work has involved. Nselaa: Well, you know, like I feel like I've been involved in Black Lives Matter movement of my life. In all actuality. It just became a hashtag in 2012. Um, but I, I definitely remember, like I told you earlier, I remember the police coming in and both housing, my mom, um, you know, when I was younger, when I was like, you know, seven or eight years old, um, so it's been always something that has been really, really important to me, um, to, to make sure that I stood up for, there was one particular time in the latter part of my teenage years where, um, I remember, um, my mother had this police encounter in a car where she was stopped. And I remember like growing up with my mom, like I was, you know, when I was younger, you know, when she would go on her mission, sometimes she would take me with her. Um, and, um, I would be in the backseat and she was like, okay, you have to make sure that you're looking out for the police in case anything happened because you know, they might try to hurt me if something happens. And I never believed that when I was really, really young in the beginning, I was like, why was the police shot hurt you? Right. But I would just, you know, be a lookout, you know, looking around, see police would come up behind us. But there was one time when I became a teenager that we were actually stopped by police. And, um, I remember the police dragged her out of the car and he was like, you know, crack cocaine has this very distinct smell to smell to it. And I I'm assuming that he could smell like the crack cocaine that was in the air, even though he couldn't see it, you know? Um, and he was like, he kept saying, I know you have it in the car. I know you have it in the car. And she was like, Oh, you're talking about, I don't know what you're talking about. And he ended up dragging her out the car and what happened is she, she ended up, she swallowed it so that he couldn't find it, but he ended up, he was choking her to try to get her to spit the crack cocaine up so that he could have it as evidence, you know? And, um, I would be like, that's something that re replays in my head, even as an adult, you know, when I handle, um, when I started handling my cases, you know, in law, you know, like I remember like how he treated my mother and, you know, one of the, um, the analogies that I heard is that, um, you know, this situation that's going on with the black lives matter movement and America finally waking up to everything that's happening is like, you know, telling your mother your whole life that your father was abusing you, like constantly telling your mother, Hey, you know, your father is a daddy is hurting me. You know, I don't want to be left by myself. And your mom is constantly like, daddy's not, what are you talking about? You must've did something for him to work. You, you must've did something, you know, um, for me, for him to treat you like that. Um, and you know, so it's like constantly telling your mom that your dad is hurting you and he never believed you all your life. And then all of a sudden, your mom one day comes to you and says, you know what, I'm sorry, I see what dad has been doing to you now. And, you know, I'm so sad that I didn't step in early, what can I do to fix it? So when I was dealing with a lot of my black lives matter cases, the world judges, prosecutors everywhere, constantly feeling like you were making up stuff, you know, they were constantly implying that there was something that we were lying about, you know, that we weren't telling them that created the incident that happened. But I remember I saw visions of what was happening to my mother. So even if I even, even if the stories were really way out there, like I still had this, you know, natural been like, you know what? This probably did happen because I've seen it happen before. You know? So I always, I always believed them, you know, because I felt like, you know, if we just keep pushing one day, mom was going to realize that we're totally truth. And she's going to tell daddy to stop, you know? So that, that's, that's what, what got me into it. Passionistas: What do you want people who don't understand it to know about Black Lives Matter. Nselaa: Things, you know, that I want people to, to really keep in, in their hearts, is that a lot of times, the biggest question that we see is that people are asking, does protests really work? Does protests, um, really get the results that we're looking for? And one of the things you said earlier, as part of my head, he was like, you know, I'm sorry that there's not more movement. I'm sorry that we're not completely there, but we're getting there the biggest benefit, um, to protesting and demonstrations, people feel like it has to be the most immediate thing. What we see like within the first year, you know, they're looking for some type of reactions, some type of response within that first 12 months. And I would say probably about 25% of the benefits of protesting and demonstrations and civil disobedience may happen within that first 12 months or so, like, for example, you know, previously prior to these, this Black Lives Matter, but even prior to 2020, um, the majority of America didn't feel like police brutality. When I say majority, at least 51%, didn't feel like party's police brutality was issue. Now 76% of America believes that police brutality is an issue. They believe that, um, people that racism is a problem. Um, the majority of America didn't, you know, didn't have a problem with all the Confederate statutes that were around. It was like, Oh, that's history. That's just showing that we're from where we come from right now, over 51% and saying that, you know what, these Confederate statues need to be removed. Right. Um, so you know, that that's the immediate benefit that we see that first, you know, that first, that what happens in that first 12 months, but the largest benefit that we get about protests and demonstrations is that it slowly changes the mindset of people over time, right? So we might not the results of it happening immediately within that first 12 months. But we see it in generations to come. What it does is that it challenges the infrastructure of power when we protest, right? When people see that there are people in the masses that are saying that something is wrong. The thing that it does is it all of a sudden tells the public, okay, this power that we have been recognizing for so long is losing legitimacy, because power is based on legitimate. People have to believe the power is legitimate in order to follow the laws and the rules. But when you see that the majority of the people, all of a sudden, you know, are, are saying that something is wrong. It challenges that legitimacy and it slowly changes people's mindset. And that they're the way that they think over time. So that the people that traditionally thought that nothing was wrong. Eventually they're coming over to your side. The people that knew something was wrong, but just felt like nobody was ever going to do it. Do anything about it. All of a sudden they're saying, you know what, well, maybe I should stand up, right? Like that. Sometimes oppression and discrimination is normalized so much. And I can say this, even in my own personal experience, sometimes it gets normalized so much that you all of a sudden, starting to think, you know, well, there's nothing we can do about that. So I'm not going to complain about it anymore. You know? Um, um, you know, it is what it is. So people, even the people that are being abused, stop working to change it. Right. But when they start to see other people setting up and saying, no, this has happened to me and I'm going to be counted, and this is wrong. All of a sudden it clicks, wait a minute. There is something that we can do about it. So it's changing the people that experienced it. It changes the people that don't experience it. And it changes the political officials because they see, you know what, I gotta do something about this, or I might lose my legitimacy moving forward. So there is change that's happening with protesting demonstrations and civil disobedience. And just because we don't see it tomorrow or today doesn't mean that it's not happening. So just keep pushing, keep moving forward, keep going at it. Um, even if it's not changing for us, change it for the people that's coming up. Passionistas: What do you think as allies is the most important thing for us to be doing? Nselaa: The, the biggest thing I would say is listen, learn and leap. That's something that's really, really big, listen, learn and leap. Um, Liz, because the conversation is going to constantly change. Um, one thing that I see happening in media a lot is that, you know, people are going to get mad at people that did something, you know, 60 years ago, 50 years ago, you know, that wasn't racist back then, but it might be racist today. Um, I don't necessarily always think that's fair to, to try to say that they're a bad person today because things are going to change over time. Um, so the first thing is, listen, listening to the change in conversation because it's going to change within the months, within the weeks, within the years, um, and be willing to adapt to whatever those changes are, you know, uh, because we're all learning together. So listening to the changes, learning from it, you know, which, which is where the adaptation comes. And we've been like being okay. Sometimes we're going to make mistakes. We're all going to make some mistakes, you know, even, you know, as a black female, I'm going to make mistakes. You know? Um, I, we have a conversation that we do regularly, um, with different States around the country, um, called white women. Can we talk right? Um, one of the biggest things that I learned, um, just in this process, like, for example, I used to always constantly, like I was always like when I see a white man come into the room, it historically has brought me a lot of anxiety. Like I would start to feel fear, especially if you see like a white man in a truck, you know, you start to feel, feel like something is bad is going to happen. And a lot of it originally happened just because I didn't really have a lot of exposure. I didn't have a lot of experiences in relationship with white men, especially like white, Southern men. I didn't have a lot of experiences with them. And I realized as I started to practice law, and when I became, um, started working in business architecture, I have more exposure to white men. So over time I didn't see them as a threat as much anymore, but that was just based on my experience and exposure and over the conversations of, of white women that can we talk? I realized that a lot of times, you know, a lot of the people we're having conversations with, they don't have experiences and exposure to different communities and different cultures. So when you don't have that experience or exposure, all you have is the stories that we see on the media, the stories that we see on TV, the stories that we see, you know, her neighbors talk about. And sometimes those are stories that are based on fear, but if we start building relationships and conversations and experience new relationships, conversations, and experience, then we can change that narrative together. So we have, um, a, uh, a series that we do called white women. Can we talk, well, we just ask each other, all the questions that we always wanted to know, like in an open form, without judgment, just being able to get to know each other and creating new experiences so that we don't have to base our views on old experiences anymore. Um, so I'm gonna say, listen, learn, and then leap have experienced leap into it. You know, if you see somebody that doesn't look like you, or, you know, it doesn't have the same experience, be willing to leap and create a new experience with them and make mistakes. And then just try again, you know, like, Hey, I made a mistake. Let me, let me get ready to try again. Passionistas: You took a big leap into the news in September when you went to an event for your local us Senator, can you talk a little bit about that? What you were there for and what happened? Nselaa: Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. So, um, myself and, um, my, my, my sister in the movement, Triana Arnold James, we went, uh, to a campaign rally for Senator Kelly Loeffler. And literally when we went to the campaign rally, we really just went to ask questions about, you know, what she was going to do to protect people. I didn't initially know a lot of her stances on the black lives matter movement when we first came, like that was still relatively, um, unfamiliar to me. Right. So we went, um, to ask her some questions. And of course we were the only black people there. So that was my first light, you know, especially because there's a lot black people in Georgia. Right. So we're all black people that, we're the only ones here. I'm confused. Yeah. That was the first kind of signal that, you know, that this might be a foreign territory to me, especially coming from like, you know, social media world. And we made quarantine, like social media kind of puts us in this echo chamber chamber where every, like we only hear things that we agree with constantly. So I didn't realize it was so many people that did not agree. So we went there to ask her questions and it was, you know, during her, her campaign rally. Um, and all of a sudden, you know, she started talking about, um, the black lives matter movement, but when she was, I thought prior, I was like, well, okay, I'm pretty sure there's some people, you know, that don't support black lives matter, but justice people like the KKK and stuff like that, you know, like, you know, I didn't realize that there was a whole lot of people that didn't like it. Um, and they were just normal people too, you know, but they would, so they, you know, they were saying on me, they was like, you know, um, initially, you know, we asked her, you know, well, what are you in? Cause this was around, you know, opera had happened in Georgia. So we asked her, what are you going to do to protect the black and Brown people that are being abused and murdered, you know, in your state, how are you going to protect those constituents? And then all of a sudden she started talking about how black people that supported the black lives matter movement, where Marxists, we were communists that we were in. I didn't know. I didn't even know what Antifa was when I went there until she called me MTV. I was saying, what is Antifa let me look that up. Um, so, you know, so she said that we were part of Antifa that we were communists, that we was Marxists, that we was entire nuclear family. And I was like, I was just really shocked that she would even say this, like, this is my us Senator. And I was like, okay, at the very least, at the very least, like, I suppose, like I can imagine some people might be low key racist, but I never thought that anybody would, you know, as a Senator, as a political official, just be so like outspoken without like, they at least gotta be politically correct. She wasn't even politically correct. She was just like going for it, which is why I'm so surprised that there's a runoff with her right now. I'm like, that's a run. They like, I was shocked about that. So, um, you know, so she was telling everybody that, you know, this is what I'm talking about. You know, she was like their fastest they're Marxists, they're communists, they're all just that they're trying to change your way of life. So then all of a sudden, the crowd like start like getting mad at us and started surrounding us. Right. And then they started yelling at it. But initially they were trying to lock arms, you know, and surround us in a circle so that we couldn't get out of the room. And then they started yelling at us all lives matter, like all lives matter, all lives matter, you know? So I was like, is this for real? Like I was, I was literally like, this is like a movie, you know? Like I felt like I wasn't us like the movie, you know, I was like, wow. You know? So they started trying to surround us. Um, and, um, you know, then they started telling, was yelling all lives matter. So the only thing that we can do, because there was like two of us and like a hundred of them, you know, like, so we were like, okay, we're going to say Black Lives Matter. You know, it response. So we start saying black lives matter, you know? And then they started like spitting at us, like throwing stuff in a feat, you know, they, I mean, they were going and a lot of them were like older white people also like, Oh, like people that were in walkers and wheelchairs, you know? So I was just like, I've never seen like, Oh, people get this rowdy before. Like it was like, you know, and then afterwards, like while they was like locking us in the room, right. Mind you there's cops there also. So, you know, there's, the cops were kind of like, you know, some of the cops were telling us, like, even though there was two of us in like a hundred of them, like there was a few of the male cops. It was like, you better not touch any of them or I'm taking you to jail. I'm like, we've been, not touched them. There's two of us in, you know, there was this one female cop who was amazing, you know, she was amazing. She was like, look, she's like, you guys are not doing anything wrong. She was like, they better not touch you guys. She was like, don't worry about it. She's like, you know, you guys have a right to be here. She was like, I got you. Like, that was kind of like our, okay. You know, like it's, you know, thank you. You know, but some of the other cops was like, you better not touch him or we're taking you to jail. And they were trying to find a reason to arrest us. And we're like, really? Right. So while they were surrounding us, they went outside a key to our car. Right. Like Triana, she had a BMW. Right. Um, and of course, you know, she has a stickers up there. So they keyed her car outside when they was like holding us in. So it was definitely a crazy, interesting experience that happened that really awakened my, you know, my eyes to what, you know, that there are communities out there that didn't necessarily agree with some of the work that we were doing. The hard part about it is that after the event happened, Senator Loffler, um, tried to use it as, you know, a campaign strategy to rally up the masses to be like, this is why, you know, black lives matter, like is trying to destroy your lives. Like, look what they're doing. You know, they're trying to take away, you know, your, your, your way of living. They're trying to take away your money, your communities they're trying to do, like she was telling them that we were doing all of this stuff, you know, that we were like, we were just asking you questions. Like, all we did was ask questions as our Senator, you know? Um, so, and then she went on this media campaign and talked to basically like a hundred different outlets about how, you know, this was an example of how black lives matter, like is a facet like Antifa communist organization. And that we were violent, even though they were the ones that keyed our car to us, you know? Um, so like, it was, it gave me the experience of seeing, um, really how, um, how somebody can create a narrative to create hate within communities. Because I didn't go in there, like having any opinion about any of the people there when I first came there. And I'm assuming that before we came, I'm assuming that they didn't really have very much opinions about us or about black people, you know, but when you have somebody created this narrative that they're coming after you and she repeated it multiple times on social media and then the media, she was like, these people are coming after you, Black Lives Matter is coming up. And she said, make no carpet, hold at words was, make no mistakes. When they come from me, they're coming after you, they're coming after your way of life. You know? Um, she, when people are creating this narrative, it creates hate and it creates all of this division. And it was really the first time I saw it up close and personal know, we see it on TV where we see Trump's a standby stand down, you know? And it almost still seems like a movie when we see it on TV and stuff like, Oh, that's not real. You know, that's just movie. That's just, you know, but it really is. Will people have to really understand that this is real, there are people out here creating this narrative. Trump is real Senator to, of Israel, right. And seeing it's so close and seeing how people responded in our presence. So up close and how dangerous it could have turned. It really raised wait, raise my awareness. And it, and it really, um, made me realize that we really have to get this message out here and to stop this division. Right. And make sure that we continue to have this conversation with each other so that people that don't look like us, they know that that's not what we mean. That's that, that's not what I said. And when she said that I was coming out of the out, that ain't true. When she said that I was anti-family, that's not true. That's not what I said. This is what I meant, like getting in front of each other, having these conversations, even if it's by zoom so that we can understand one-on-one what our agendas are and stop having these other people try to tell it for us. Passionistas: Thanks for listening to the Passionistas Project Podcast and our interview with Madam Nselaa Ward. To learn more about Madam Ward and how she helps small business owners to thrive visit NiNavaFirm.com. That's N-I-N-A-V-A-F-I-R-M.com. Please visit thePassionististasProject.com to learn more about our podcast and subscription box filled with products made by women owned businesses and female artisans to inspire you to follow your passions. There are still a few winter boxes left with the theme. Passionistas Pamper. Sign up for our mailing list to get 10% off your first purchase. 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In the episode we're joined by public defense attorney Darryl Austin to break down everything from the 5th amendment, to Thurgood Marshall, Black Americans' perspective on having trust of law enforcement and more.Tap in each and every Thursday for new episodes. Subscribe to the channel for more info. Follow on FB and IG: @gentlemenshhhttps://linktr.ee/gentlemenshhProduced by Savvi Hue for POD'N.

I’m Eboni K. Williams, an attorney, TV news anchor, and former public defense attorney. I was raised by a single mother. We were poor, we struggled but we strived and she taught me, inspired me and instilled in me a sense of justice through perseverance, through knowledge! I worked and was accepted to college at 16, then I went to law school. Now I want to teach, to inspire.   I believe we are a nation of laws, but the system is rigged and we must work to restore the promise of justice for all. This show isn’t about the law as much as it’s about how the law impacts our lives, and what we need to know to protect and empower ourselves.   And one more thing, I’ve got the most amazing, smart, sexy co-host Dustin Ross. Y’all know him from The Friend Zone. On this show we’re going to get real, get informed, get going and of course have a little fun along the way. Come join us and let’s hold court! “It makes no sense, it doesn’t fit, you must acquit” - Johnny Cochran clip courtesy CNN. “You go down there looking for justice, that’s what you find, ‘just us.’” - Richard Pryor clip courtesy Rhino Entertainment / Warner Music. Music - Bitter Sweet by Tilden Parc courtesy Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://news.iheart.com/podcast-advertisers

Travis & Lee conclude the case of OJ Simpson and discuss the environment of 1994 America.Support the show (http://patreon.com/crimeficionados)

"You wait til' I get to heaven, I ga' tell Eve bout her........!" Hey, you! Pique down, missy! Can we please, for the love of God, let Eve rest in peace already? From the time I could tie my shoes, poor Eve has been dragged through the mud for eating the apple or whatever it was that she ate in the garden. Since before humans discovered fire, my girl has been catching flack for everything from P.M.S. to chapter 7 bankruptcy. At this point, I just want to resurrect Johnny Cochran to get the indicted Eve off the hook. I mean, if he could do it for OJ........well then.

Episode 70 of Real Black News features public relations and crisis management expert Rachel Noerdlinger discussing her Olivia Pope-like media activism work over two decades with everyone from Johnny Cochran to Rev. Al Sharpton. In a rare interview, Rachel discusses black media, dealing with her personal media crisis, being adopted by a white family, and her mother’s suicide. Other topics include the Mississippi prison protest, Ethiopia’s #BringOurStudentsHome campaign, an update on the Charleston AME case, and more.

 The Scopes "Monkey" Trial in 1925 was called the "trial of the century," and it was the second "trial of the century" in less than a year - both featuring famous lawyer, Clarence Darrow, a genius of verbal manipulation and communication. Learn about the interesting backstory of "A Boy Named Sue," by Johnny Cash, and its relation to the Scopes Trial. Learn how this "monkey trial" included the 1925 version of Hillary Clinton mixed with Franklin Graham and Fred Thompson, pitted against the 1925 the real life Atticus Finch, mixed with Johnny Cochran. It's actually pretty crazy.  Also, the first "affluenza" case, where two young rich kids tried their hand at serial killing, and discovered they weren't as smart as socialist philosophers convinced them they were....   All of this ties together in the strange real world we live in.  And of course, my commentary as a trial lawyer and lover of interesting history. Visit me online and find my contact info at johnbryanlaw.com.  This was a joint podcast with my other podcast, Scavengeology.              

The Scopes "Monkey" Trial in 1925 was called the "trial of the century," and it was the second "trial of the century" in less than a year - both featuring famous lawyer, Clarence Darrow, a genius of verbal manipulation and communication. Learn about the interesting backstory of "A Boy Named Sue," by Johnny Cash, and its relation to the Scopes Trial. Learn how this "monkey trial" included the 1925 version of Hillary Clinton mixed with Franklin Graham and Fred Thompson, pitted against the 1925 the real life Atticus Finch, mixed with Johnny Cochran. It's actually pretty crazy.  Also, the first "affluenza" case, where two young rich kids tried their hand at serial killing, and discovered they weren't as smart as socialist philosophers convinced them they were....  All of this ties together in the strange real world we live in.  And of course, my commentary as a trial lawyer and lover of interesting history.Visit us online at scavengeology.com  or on Facebook @scavengeology

Holley learned the ropes from Johnny Cochran during the Oj Simpson trail dubbed “the trial of the century.” In May 2018, Ms. Holley and Kim Kardashian West met with President Donald Trump at the White House to lobby for the release of Alice Marie Johnson, a first-time, non-violent drug offender who was serving a sentence of life without the possibility of parole. Ms. Holley and Ms. West were successful in persuading Mr. Trump to commute Ms. Johnson’s sentence in her twenty-second year of imprisonment. Holley was raised in the Fairfax neighborhood of Los Angeles. Her mother went to school at night working earning her M.B.A. Eventually, working her way up from legal secretary to the office manager at a large law firm. Holley was unimpressed and thought being an attorney was boring. Holley ended up as a waitress at the first ever California Pizza Kitchen when she met a “cool” lawyer who did work that excited her. She enrolled in Southwestern Law School in 1985. Shawn began her legal career in the Los Angeles public defender's office before being hired by Johnnie Cochran. She eventually became the Managing Partner of The Cochran Firm and was a member of O.J. Simpson's legal defense team, know as the "Dream Team." With more than sixty trials to her credit, Ms. Holley is the rare trial attorney who practices in the areas of both civil and criminal litigation. She was a highly visible member of the O.J. Simpson defense team and worked closely with Mr. Cochran on a number of high-profile civil and criminal cases when the firm was known as The Law Offices of Johnnie L. Cochran, Jr. Among others, Ms. Holley has represented or currently represents Kanye West, Justin Bieber,Michael Jackson, Tupac Shakur, Snoop Dogg, Kathy Griffin, Rosario Dawson, Ryan Phillippe, Lindsay Lohan, Nicole Richie, Paris Hilton, the Kardashian/Jenner family, Katt Williams, radio personality Charlamagne tha God, Mike Tyson, “Sugar” Ray Leonard, Lamar Odom, Reggie Bush, accused Symbionese Liberation Army member Sara Jane Olson, celebrated Black Panther leader Geronimo Pratt and members of Black Lives Matter.

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In this weeks episode Odours of the Odeon review 1988’s gritty Carl Weathers-led crime caper.... Action Jackson!With an exclusive critique of the films original artwork from celeb CJ DeMooi, the Odours team discuss schlock one-liners, blaxploitation, Haitian President and totalitarian despot Papa Doc, an unexplored alternative life-path for OJ Simpson, and the necessity of bureaucratic protocol in law enforcement promotions.

After my dad and Robert Shapiro dealt with some timeline issues in OJ's case, and the limo driver placed him at the airport at a different time, the OJ Simpson case played out on national television. Here's how OJ's Bronco chase and the addition of Johnny Cochran to the defense changed the course of the case forever. This is what you didn't know about the OJ Simpson Murders Part II

While Domino is off on the planet Endor, saving the Ewoks from Johnny Cochran and Krang, Bobby & Hesh hold down the dojo. We discuss the first look of 'Robin' in the new live action "Teen Titans", Why IGN gives 'Luke Cage' season 2 the lowest rating of any Marvel show on Netflix, Jared Leto as Morbius, Microsoft and Razer trying to get kill gaming, 'Halo' live action series on Showtime and more.Visit our Patreon @ http://patreon.com/3ninjaspodcastShoutout to our sponsor Pink City. Visit their website at https://www.pinkcity.ca and use the coupon code "3ninjaspod" and receive 10% off your purchase. Check out Domino's Youtube Channel "Round 12 Gaming" https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3b6oXCZIAes-fB5IYpLG2A You Got questions, Ninjas got answers. Tweet, DM or email us questions for our "Ask a Ninja" segment at 3ninjaspodcast@gmail.com |Follow the team| @3NinjasPod on Twitter @3NinjasPodcast on IG @HK_Domino @HeshJones @EmProdaBob

Brains Soul Survivor explores the depths of human emotions, both real and imagined. That any of us reach adulthood in one piece, emotionally or physically is a miracle of no small proportion. That any of us reach adulthood to contribute back to society and become highly respected in the community is truly a gift of time and place. Soul Survivor is a true story of fortitude, an iron will and looking to the future in the hope that tomorrow will be better than today. Soul Survivor is nothing less than a story of triumph. "Little Mary" Reese spent her childhood living, working and playing in a funeral home. Her mother, Mrs. Mary ("Big Mary") Reese, was well known and respected in the African-American community in Los Angeles through the operation of a prestigious black funeral home. Little Mary's story tells what really happens behind the embalming room doors- the light and dark side of life. Soul Survivor is both humorous and mischievous, and talks of sex, murder, voodoo, preachers and deviate gravediggers. Famous entertainers that passed through Little Mary's life include Redd Foxx, Lou Rawls, Sam Cooke, Billy Preston and Johnny Cochran. Little Mary was born in 1944 in the South, reared in the Southwest and was often disparagingly referred to as "high-yellow". During racial tensions of the '50s and '60s, Little Mary found her hue to be a major issue but not her only problem. Mary's mother caused her to endure life threatening situations due to her drinking and wild ways. Little Mary's childhood experiences, the mental and physical abuse faced each day, led her to believe that her only true friends were the dead people in the funeral home. Indeed, Little Mary received a BS degree (Be Smart) at an early age. It was the only way she knew to survive. Little Mary's story is an unlikely but revealing peek into the unexpected and in the end, truly a story of a Soul Survivor.    

You are responsible for all your success and failure. That type of integrity will need to manifest in how you handle money - your money and your client money - your investments and your trades. Until you backtest, you don't know your numbers. You need to know the expected value of a trade. You need to know what the probability is of your risk of ruin. You can't get this without a simulator or backtesting software. If you have talked yourself into the Johnny Cochran logic of "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit," (no basis in law) you have sold yourself on an outcome that is not based on 100% integrity and is not a 360 degree outlook. Your success as a trader will come from your knowledge of yourself - what you know, what you think, and how you feel. You have to own everything you do and that includes all the results of the trades you take and the ones you don't.

Ubuntu Radio, Ep #34--The Brown Liquor Chronicles #1-- Dee: Just A Brotha From North Philly Powering Thru (Part 2 of 3) The Brown Liquor Chronicles has brothas of a certain age wax on everything while drinking good liquor. In this episode Dee talks about Notre Dame Law school and the fallacy of "zero sum"; Passing the bar; Univ of Texas business school; Practicing law in Philly; Why he's no longer practicing law; First year [Black] lawyer during the OJ trial 1994; The genius of Johnny Cochran and his infuence of young Black attorneys; An imperfect criminal justice system; Seeking justice regardless --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

                . Featuring: Beardo, Booze, Chuck Turtleman Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat’s up, my honkies? In this very special edition of the Sweet Feathery Jesus podcast, we try to answer the questions that everybody is asking in these turbulent times. Who would win a fight out of deceased rhyming lawyer Johnny Cochran and […]

Guys!! I was invited to present recently at a Center for Autism and Related Disabilities at Florida Atlantic University's Career Day, and it was wonderful. One of my career goals is public speaking, and this was my first dive into it. I was such impressive company--other presenters including an environmentalist, event planner, comic book illustrator, creator of an online social community for the disabled, and a police officer. So, THANK YOU to Mr. Darius Murray, CARD's Clinical Mentoring Associate, for having me. It was such an epic honor!! But, I only got to talk for about 10 minutes (and, you guys know I can TALK!). Since I really had to rush through my story and its lessons, I decided to flesh out a whole solocast for you. On this episode, I share how and why I changed my career, the journey I took to get to where I am (so far), and some advice on how to do the same yourself. (Hint: It involves a LOT of hard work!) I have included my actual Career Day Powerpoint presentation as a bonus download, in case you want to check that out as well. And, there are so many opportunities to positively and powerfully /impact youth with autism. Reach out to Darius by phone at 561-213-6936 or by email at dmurra23@fau.edu. Or, head to Autism.FAU.edu. Mentioned in this episode: #1 - RADIO - Kevin Rolston of the KVJ Show - 2014-10-15: http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/1-radio-kevin-rolston-of-the-kvj-show-2014-10-15 #75 – NON-PROFIT – Darius Murray - 2016-05-03: http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/75-non-profit-darius-murray-2016-05-03 #100 – ENTERTAINER – Tami Stronach - 2016-10-28: http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/100-entertainer-tami-stronach-2016-10-28 (Have feedback? Please email me at CurveTheCube@gmail.com.) Remember to find you passion and do your thing with the Curve the Cube podcast!! Follow the CARD program on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube Follow the iRise Mentor program on: Twitter This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! To stay up on the latest with my guests, follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SnapChat (@CurveTheCube) | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

Curvists and new listeners, the foundation of a pursuit of dreams for many is the American Dream itself, and there is really no dream more emblematic or inspiring around the world than that beacon America has been as a place where hope meets hard work. But, we find ourselves at a time in our American history where masses of people feel like that American Dream is at grave risk for them. And, this election (and, for many, Donald Trump himself, is a driving force of either a promise newly lost or a promise newly regained. So, as I heard of an anti-Trump protest on Veterans Day right here in West Palm Beach (and, a bubbling counter-protest), I decided to head down there and see what those dreams are for people. There is a clear passion involved in both protesting and counter-protesting, and I wanted to get to the root of some of this passion. And, I was as struck by the diversity of answers as I was by the possible areas of common ground that seemed to surface. So, my hope with this episode is to allay fears, but inspire action; to propose areas of commonality, so we can focus on continuing to progress as a unified, strong country and world leader; and to help people understand one another's struggles better. We really need to stop living only in our individual pockets. As diverse of a country as we have, we need to step out and listen to one another more. And, I hope we can all be more active toward that American dream that unites us all. Mentioned in this episode: #56 – FAITH – Sharif Elhosseiny & Rev. Wendy Tobias - 2015-12-18 - http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/56-faith-sharif-elhosseiny-rev-wendy-tobias-2015-12-18 #33 – TRANSGENDER – Drew - 2015-06-20 - http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/33-transgender-drew-2015-06-20 You can also head straight to Curve the Cube's Sociocultural category page for more similar episodes. Thank you to our vets for our right to protest and all other freedoms. This has been your host and producer, Jaime Legagneur, and thanks so much for listening to what may be my most powerful episode of the Curve the Cube Podcast, yet. I'll let you be the judge... Happy belated Veterans Day! (Have feedback? Please email me at CurveTheCube@gmail.com.) Remember to find you passion and do your thing with the Curve the Cube podcast!!   This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! To stay up on the latest with my guests, follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SnapChat (@CurveTheCube) | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

Jennifer McGrath is a passionate crusader against ovarian cancer!! As the Director of Hearing the Ovarian Cancer Whisper and Head of Bluewater Babes and the annual Fish For A Cure fishing tournament in Jupiter, she raises money to help those fighting ovarian cancer who are experiencing financial difficulty. And, on this podcast she shares her a unique story behind her passion and encourages all to take time to help others!! Follow Jennifer McGrath, HOW and the Bluewater Babes on: Twitter | Twitter | Twitter | Instagram | Instagram | Facebook | Facebook | YouTube This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! To stay up on the latest with my guests, follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SnapChat (@CurveTheCube) | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

Gary and Roscoe greet Autumn in Chicago with anticipation and merriment. While discussing pie fights and pet peeves, Roscoe admits to being officially notified by the Library of Congress about misrepresenting the number of screenings of the newly restored and fully assembled 1927 Laurel and Hardy film The Battle of the Century. Seems he saw the third American screening at Cinecon, not the first. A minor quibble, but worthy of correction. Gary's latest Sourpuss Smithers peeve concerns the use of the helper word "like". As in "Like he heard this woman on like the train using the word 'like' like as every third or fourth like word and couldn't like believe that a seemingly well-educated and like professional person would be caught like dead in a loud conversation in like public with such a debilitating like speech pattern. Like." We know this is not a new problem, but seriously? The sharks are back in town in New Smyrna Beach, Florida with three attacks on surfers in one day! NSB is apparently known as the "shark attack capital of the world." Read more here to learn why. And keep your hands and feet inside the boat at all times. We preview the new season on Broadway with a nod toward those shows closing (Something Rotten, The Humans, An American in Paris, Matilda, Fiddler on the Roof), and a look ahead to upcoming openings. Of particular interest is the revival (again!) of The Glass Menagerie, this time featuring Sally Field. Roscoe is flush with excitement over this and predicts a Tony Award for the former Flying Nun. We like her! We really like her!! Even more exciting is the opening of Hello, Dolly! starring the great one herself, Bette Midler. And featuring David Hyde Pierce as Horace Vandergelder. The first revival in 22 years, this show broke the first day Broadway record for ticket sales, ringing in at $9,082,497! Word on the street has it that Carol Channing, 95, will be in attendance on Opening Night. Oh, to be in the audience that night... Roscoe gives us his thumbnail review of Wonderful Town, now playing at the Goodman Theatre, directed by the great Mary Zimmerman. "It's bright, colorful...with one show stopper after another after another", says Roscoe. 4 Stars out of 4.  Bri Sudia gives what Chris Jones in the Chicago Tribune calls a brilliant, career-making performance. High praise indeed. You heard it here first on Booth One, folks - The People vs OJ Simpson was going to be BIG! A huge winner at this year's Emmy Awards., including Sarah Paulson as Marcia Clark and Courtney B. Vance as Johnny Cochran. Also, close friend Jay Martel appeared on stage as Executive Producer when Key and Peele won for Outstanding Variety Sketch Show. Nice photo in the NYTimes the next day, Jay! Way to go. Can't wait to have you on the program. See all the Emmy noms and winners here. Something that we hope will become a recurring segment is Roscoe reading entries from his grandfather Roscoe's scrapbook of letters and reminiscences. Touching, human and revealing, we think you'll find this will become a popular Booth One entry. Gary and Roscoe pay tribute to one of the great influential voices of the American theater, Edward Albee, who passed away this September. The Zoo Story, A Delicate Balance and Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf rank among his many masterpieces. Did you know that he came up with the title for Woolf after seeing it randomly scrawled in soap on a mirror in a downstairs bar in Greenwich Village? The film version starring Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton remains as one of the most indelible cinema experiences of our lifetimes. Read Bruce Weber's full obituary. At our listener's request, Gary & Roscoe play a little Chat Pack. Learn what our hosts think about Stevie Nicks, Barbra Streisand, Dreamgirls, Ramon Novarro and Leni Riefenstahl! Kiss of Death: Charmian Carr, Played Liesl in The Sound of Music. Only 21 at the time, Ms. Carr is perhaps best remembered for singing "Sixteen Going on Sev...

Thank you to Scotty Fusion and Jessica “Empress” Prestige for their huge assist on this episode!! They hosted and interviewed ME—asking both their own questions and yours, and I had a blast answering them. You’ll remember Scotty as one of my best friends, as part of my Pod Squad, and from episode #20. Jessica was recently on episode #85 and has a new podcast coming out soon with the Flint Stone Media Podcast Network called Treal Tummies!! So, keep an eye out for that. But, major THANK YOU to all of my curvists who sent in questions. I really appreciate all of you taking the time to do that! And, to all of my listeners, thank you for making August this podcast’s best month EVER. That really is the best birthday present I could get. As my birthday month thank you to all of YOU, please keep an eye out for my special Dodo VR Case giveaway contest, the first of which drops tomorrow. My birthday isn’t until the 10th, but I’m starting early!! You’ll have just three chances to win. So, try every time. Details will be on Facebook!! I truly hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did recording it. It was weird being on the other side of the table; but, the view was great. I can’t wait to do it again next year; so, start getting your questions ready!! Follow Scotty Fusion on: Twitter | Instagram | YouTube Follow Jessica “Empress Prestige” McCready on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SoundCloud Mentiond in this podcast: Pod Squad Episodes: http://www.curvethecube.com/pod-squad.html #20 – ENTERTAINER & ARTIST – Scotty Fusion- 2015-03-24: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/curve-the-cube/id931220607?mt=2&i=338764263 #69 – ARTISTS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS – Exhibit Treal – 2016-03-26: http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/69-artists-and-community-organizers-exhibit-treal-2016-03-26 #85 – POET, WRITER, AND DIRECTOR – Jessica “Empress Prestige” McCready - 2016-07-17: http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/85-poet-writer-and-director-jessica-empress-prestige-mccready-2016-07-17 This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! To stay up on the latest with my guests, follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SnapChat (@CurveTheCube) | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

I was absolutely delighted to see my old high school friend come back to the south Florida theater scene last March. David Abeles came through the Kravis Center on his Broadway tour of Matilda the Musical, playing the dominant and imposing role of Miss Trunchbull. I took my son to go see my friend do what I know he does best, and we were both so delighted by Dave’s performance and the entire cast and production! What a treat!! Dave and I went to high school together at Pine Crest School in Ft. Lauderdale, and I always knew he would grow up to give his talents as a gift to the world. He was one of those people who just had that “it” factor; but, what makes him so special is that he is truly humble. On this podcast, he shares the story of his journey from Broward County to London to New York, and what life is like as an actor on the move!! Follow Dave on Twitter as @iAmDavidAbeles! Mentioned in this podcast: #10 – ACTOR – Amir Arison – 2014-12-26: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/curve-the-cube/id931220607?mt=2&i=329013718 This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SnapChat (@CurveTheCube) | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

Uzi 311, a.k.a., “Florida’s Finest” is one of the most driven people I have ever met. Discovering his talent for rap and hip hop at an early age, Uzi focused his mind toward developing it into a true craft. He is a masterful freestyle artist, purposeful writer, and commanding entertainer who is never finished improving himself. Catch Uzi at a show, and you are catching a glimpse of the future of hip hop. On this podcast, Uzi gives up the goods on getting your foot in the door, working hard, and making it happen! He is equally charming and insightful, and it is hard to imagine anything but pure success in this gifted artist’s future. Follow Uzi 311 on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | SoundCloud | YouTube Mentioned in this podcast: #77 – MUSICIANS – The Cohen Robinson Experience – 2016-05-20: http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/77-musicians-the-cohen-robinson-experience-2016-05-20 #79 - #79 – REGGAE MUSICIAN – Paul Anthony II - 2016-06-10: http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/79-reggae-musician-paul-anthony-ii-2016-06-10 This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

What Does OJ Simpson Have to do with Medicare??? I spend a lot of time (arguably, an excessive amount) watching ESPN. A much heraleded, 5 episode documentary called O.J. Simpson: Made in America was recently released, so I have been busy. Anyways, I was thinking about how in the world the prosecution lost. And then I thought about the job the defense's legal team did, and of course, the jury's responses. Under Medicare: you are the jury, Marcia Clark and Johnny Cochran are the Stakeholders. You have biases and be influenced by the advocates, and there are many, all giving you their perspective on what is best. That leaves you with the task of putting it together.  

Imagine you're on vacation with the family. Everyone is all excited because you're heading west to see all the sights. All of a sudden, there's a cop behind you with its lights on. You pull over. The officer comes up to the car asking for your license, insurance and registration. He runs your information. The officer comes back and asks for you to step out of the car. He asks if you have any cash in the vehicle? You tell him $2,000.00. He tells you to put your hands on the hood so he can search you. Then he says those fatal words while grabbing your wrists; you're under arrest. You look over, and you can see your wife trying to calm the kids down at this point because they are crying. The officer tells you that he is going to seize all of the cash. You say that he can't do that. You need that for the vacation you're taking the kids on. He tells you that an ordinary family shouldn't have that kind of money traveling. The law is called civil asset forfeiture. It's a shady process that allows state and the federal government to seize your assets without having to be convicted of any crime. It's essentially legalized robbery because most people don't have enough money to hire a lawyer to challenge it. In fact, nearly 64 million in revenue was generated by Philadelphia with seizing homes, vehicles and cash. And it gets even crazier. Your property is guilty until you prove it innocent. Talk about an impossible feat, unless you can resurrect Johnny Cochran. It's not only making money, but it's also protecting it. It reminds me on how the financial industry and experts tell you to put money into a retirement account. You're limited to a few funds that will only underperform the market while they slowly syphon their fees for the next 30 years. And good luck trying to access that money in a desperate situation before you retire because it's like trying to break into Fort Knox. Once they get your money, they aren't letting it go. The world is a great place, but when it comes to money you have to protect it with your life. At least when you learn how to trade options successfully, you have control and protection from the money vampires out there. You have protection with your brokerage account, and it can't be seized under this law. If you're looking to learn how to trade options to generate income, then you're going to love what you learn in the book I wrote called: http://www.FearlessInvestingWithOptions.com To your wealth, freedom and options! Joshua Belanger

What starts with a bunch of randomness involving a bushel-full of presents from our Scotty Fusion morphs into a CTC Pod Squad episode about one thing we do best: binge!! From Orphan Black and Breaking Bad to a minutes-long dissertation from Jay on the wonder that was Lou Ferrigno as the Incredible Hulk, the Pod Squad delivers laughs on the shows we love to binge watch. But, we don’t stop there. (What kind of binge session would THAT be?) We also talk about going hard on food and other delightful things. Follow Scotty Fusion on: Twitter | Instagram | YouTube Follow Jay Cintron on: Twitter | Twitter | Twitter | Instagram Welcome to the 76th episode of the podcast! #NetflixAndChill Mentioned in this podcast: #10 – ACTOR – Amir Arison – 2014-12-26: (http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/10-actor-amir-arison-2014-12-26) This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!! Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! If you have any topic ideas for the Pod Squad, shoot me an email (CurveTheCube@gmail.com)! Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

In our 15th trip through the Thunder Pop Dome! Ones Up for JazzOne as he returns to discuss his recent work on the ABC Drama series American Crime, also that time he spent a day with O.J. Simpson's attorney Johnnie Cochran.. We also try and figure out how Matthew Mcconaughey found a time of day he could fly down I-35 with zero traffic?-- Finally the new Richard Linklater film and some of his old ones and then we enjoy 7 days of Tacos just cause we can!

In the ninth episode about The People vs. O. J. Simpson, Jim Clemente (retired FBI Profiler & Criminal Mnds Writer/Producer), Laura Richards (Former New Scotland Yard Forensic Psychologist & Founder of Paladin Stalking Victim's Advocacy Service) and Lisa Zambetti (Criminal Minds Casting Director) discuss the finale of the show, entitled "The Verdict." They review the reaction to the verdict, details about Marcia Clark's life that paint a more complete portait of her character and how the victims themselves became after thoughts in the circus of the trail. #HerNameWasNicole #HisNameWasRon

I met Jamaal “Visualist” Clark at an art event put on by Exhibit Treal a couple of weeks ago where he was photographing the evening. And, it turns out that he was also a painter who had lent a couple of pieces to the event—pieces that I LOVED. So, I was excited to have Jamaal on the podcast. We sat down and talked about a whole range of topics—from comic books to graffiti, film to digital, his time in school to being a teacher now himself. And, Jamaal was delightful throughout it all. He shared with me what the name “Visualist” means, the theme behind his heart, and what mark he wants to leave in the art world. There are a lot of great nuggets in this podcast for any aspiring artist or person visualizing their own dream!! Follow Jamaal “Visualist” Clark on: Twitter | Instagram | Instagram 2 | Facebook Mentioned in this podcast:#25 – ARTIST – Jason “JaFleu” Fleurant - 2015-04-25 - http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/25-artist-jason-jafleu-fleurant-2015-04-25#27 – SALON OWNER - Janice Massey – 2015-05-12 - http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/27-janice-massey-2015-05-12#69 – ARTISTS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS – Exhibit Treal – 2016-03-26 - http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/69-artists-and-community-organizers-exhibit-treal-2016-03-26 This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!!Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!!Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

In the seventh episode about The People vs. O. J. Simpson, Jim Clemente (retired FBI Profiler & Criminal Mnds Writer/Producer), Laura Richards (Former New Scotland Yard Forensic Psychologist & Founder of Paladin Stalking Victim's Advocacy Service) and Lisa Zambetti (Criminal Minds Casting Director) look at the far fetched "Conspiracy Theories" introduced by the defense to distract the jury. Plus they examine "A Jury in Jail" focused on the rising tensions within the sequestered jury. #HerNameWasNicole #HisNameWasRon

We finally made it to Paisan's - our namesake ristorante! The fine paisans at Paisan's welcomed us like family as we broke bread and podded live from the end of the bar like Norm and Cliff. This special on-location episode has a bit of everything, including some NHL playoffs talk (Jason wonders why Claude Julien is still in his life?), an imagining of Johnny Cochran on Twitter during the OJ Trial, a Mt. Rushmore of Italian food and of course us stuffing our faces with some of the best cuisine, cannoli and chianti this side of the Mason-Dixon line. Cin cin!

In the sixth episode about The People vs. O. J. Simpson, Jim Clemente, Laura Richards and Lisa Zambetti examine how evidence was handled, how Johnny Cochran played to racial tension and double standard of how Marcia Clark was treated by the media.

We finally made it to Paisan's - our namesake ristorante! The fine paisans at Paisan's welcomed us like family as we broke bread and podded live from the end of the bar like Norm and Cliff. This special on-location episode has a bit of everything, including some NHL playoffs talk (Jason wonders why Claude Julien is still in his life?), an imagining of Johnny Cochran on Twitter during the OJ Trial, a Mt. Rushmore of Italian food and of course us stuffing our faces with some of the best cuisine, cannoli and chianti this side of the Mason-Dixon line. Cin cin!

Treal= true + real Utilizing the concept of “treal,” community leaders, Jason "JaFleu" Fleurant and Tracy Guiteau, are blazing a trail in our backyard to promote young, local talent—Exhibit Treal. They are both fine artists, and, as you’ll hear, Tracy also has a background in fashion design. But, they are also community leaders doing so much to share all they have learned in the bumps in the journey of an artist's life, be strong examples of fortitude, and really inspire and support the community's youth. Their Exhibit Treal events bring local artists together in a safe space free of the b.s. and typical pitfalls that can swallow up their talent, and instead give them a place to breathe and thrive. In this podcast, Jason, Tracy, and I talk about all their events, why their mission means so much to them, and a little of what it's like growing up Haitian. It's a super fun, funny, and inspiring podcast! And my little session at the end features Snoop Dog’s “Gin and Juice” as arranged by The Gourds. Don’t blame me for all the gritty language, blame Snoop Dog!! So, sit back and relax and get ready to get treal! Enjoy!! Mentioned in this podcast: #25 – ARTIST – Jason “JaFleu” Fleurant - 2015-04-25 (http://curvethecube.libsyn.com/25-artist-jason-jafleu-fleurant-2015-04-25) Follow Exhibit Treal on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Pinterest | YouTube Follow Jason “JaFleu” Fleurant on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Pinterest | YouTube Follow Tracy Guiteau on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook |Pinterest | YouTube | Etsy This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the largest, most prestigious law firms in the world (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!!Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!!Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2016.

Julia Parker - Julia plays Patricia Cochran, the mistress of Johnny Cochran, on the acclaimed FX series "The People vs. O.J. Simpson". She also appears on "CSI: Cyber", "Ashes", "The Grace of God" and "Alien Armageddon". She also appeared on 90210.Jed Doherty - Jedlie is one of the nation’s most exciting school show performers. He uses positive reinforcement, storytelling, illusions, comedy, music and dance to motivate audiences to make healthy choices, build safe schools, stand up for one another and to be inclusive. He's an advocate against bullying.

Julia Parker - Julia plays Patricia Cochran, the mistress of Johnny Cochran, on the acclaimed FX series "The People vs. O.J. Simpson". She also appears on "CSI: Cyber", "Ashes", "The Grace of God" and "Alien Armageddon". She also appeared on 90210.Jed Doherty - Jedlie is one of the nation’s most exciting school show performers. He uses positive reinforcement, storytelling, illusions, comedy, music and dance to motivate audiences to make healthy choices, build safe schools, stand up for one another and to be inclusive. He's an advocate against bullying.

Ken Bratvogel is the owner and operator of a couple of gun shops—both here and in South Carolina—under the umbrella of Firearms Solutions. He’s had a passion for guns since childhood–rebuilding, cleaning, trading, and now professionally selling them. To Ken, guns are a tool and a tradition, and he is a big advocate of safety and responsibility. I truly appreciate how open, thoughtful, and reasonable our conversation was—even when we touched on the stickier topics. He is truly a kind man, and I hope you will find his podcast as insightful as I did! Follow Ken and his gun shops on: Twitter | Instagram | Instagram | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms in the world (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!!Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2015.

I had the pleasure this last Thursday of attending the grand opening of south Florida’s newest hot spot for fine art, Foundation Fine Art—a gallery featuring some of the local art scene’s most amazing talents!! Art Director, Robin Tortorici, has done an absolutely stellar job converting what was once a medical facility into an exquisite exhibit space. She features strong and diverse local artists whose work takes you on an imaginative journey through their collections of photography, sculpture, and paint. Treat yourself to a fresh art experience at Foundation! Contact Robin by phone (561-314-9523) or via email (robin@foundationartservices.com). Visit the art featured at Foundation yourself at 3400 SW 10th Street, Deerfield Beach, FL 33442. Be sure to follow Foundation Fine Art on social media, too:Instagram | Facebook And, of course, please be sure to also visit the artists featured in the podcast on their websites and follow their social media channels! Walt Peterson:Twitter | Facebook | Pinterest Yaacov Heller:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Pinterest Frankie Curran:Additional Website | Twitter | Instagram | Pinterest April Anselona:My featured guest from the previous episode, #59!Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Pinterest Aaron Ansarov:Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Pinterest | YouTube video: https://youtu.be/gThsJ7RT-Mg This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms in the world (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!!Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!!Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2015.

On this episode, I caught up with an old high school friend from Pine Crest, Heather Geronemus, who is now the Chairwoman for the annual Walk Like MADD & MADD Dash Fort Lauderdale 5K. She has dedicated the last several years of her life to the important cause of fighting drunk driving; and her efforts have taken her from south Florida to the halls of Washington D.C. Heather has earned achievement as a top fundraiser for Mothers Against Drunk Driving; but, her philanthropy doesn’t stop there. She has also extended herself to other organizations as well. The topic of drunk driving is particularly poignant for this time of year, as drunk driving incidents tend to spike during the holidays. So, it was very important for me to have Heather on as a guest—especially now. She was gracious enough to talk about the personally tragedy that changed her life—losing her father, Robert, who was killed in 2009 by a drunk driver. She told his story, shared what that time was like for her, and walked through how she is changing such an extreme negative into such a powerful positive. If you want to get more involved in charity work and philanthropy, better understand the epidemic of drunk driving or have been an offender of DUI, or just need the inspiration to get through your own rough time, this podcast will speak to you in particular. Heather also shares tips on how to get home safely, including peppering in some great conceptual themes that will get you thinking. (Hint: parents, you may want to write some of these down…!!) Head to WalkLikeMADD.org/FortLauderdale and see how you can get involved, as a sponsor or participant. Her next event’s info is:Where: Huizenga Plaza 32 East Las Olas Blvd, Fort Lauderdale, FloridaWhen: 04/24/2016 @ 7:30 amBut, the time to create or sponsor a team and begin your fundraising is NOW!! Follow Heather on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube This episode of Curve the Cube is sponsored by my brother, Gerard! Under his company, GL Esquire Consulting, he gives sound legal business advice. If you either want to start your own business or need some guidance regarding the business you own or work for, give him a call! A Harvard and Columbia Law graduate, he’s worked for some of the world’s largest, most prestigious law firms in the world (even at Johnny Cochran’s distinguished firm). He’s worked with clients in a variety of industries, including financial services, agriculture, music production, fashion, and technology, and he’s happy to bring that expertise to helping you and your business needs. When you’re Gerard’s client, he’ll not only be your lawyer, but also your trusted consultant and friend. His initial consultations are always free; but, if you mention Curve the Cube, he’ll offer you his “friends and family” rates!! Reach him at (786) 531-9834, gerard@glesqconsulting.com, or his Facebook page, GL Esquire Consulting, LLC. Twitter | Facebook Enjoy!!Music Beds courtesy of DJ John Hitta!!! Follow Curve the Cube on: Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | Tumblr | Pinterest | YouTube Copyright Flint Stone Media, LLC 2015.

Ted Ellis is a world-renowned artist for the past 25 years. “I paint subjects that are representative of the many facets of American life as I know it. I like to think of myself as a creative historian." In the last 20 years, many corporations and Ellis’ private collectors continue to admire and collect his work. A few of the prominent individuals who enjoy his creations are as follows: the late Johnny Cochran, Angela Bassett, Ed Gordon, Blair Underwood, Susan L. Taylor, Bryant Gumbel, Joyce Roche, Spike Lee, and Brad Pitt. A few of the major corporations that have commissioned Ellis include: Walt Disney Studios, The Minute Maid Company, Coca-Cola, Phillip Morris, and Avon, Inc. He has also been featured on local and regional television programs, in magazines such as Upscale and Southern Living, Newsweek, and is frequently featured in newspaper articles throughout the country. His popular art images have been found on book covers and collectible prints.  Highlights Ted discusses the power of art across the board politically, socially, academically, historically, and economically. It is important to understand the level of articulation art has. When we create we are problem solving. An artist and a scientist are one in the same.  Images are an universal language. Success is finding a happy place for yourself; going back to your passion and service to others. For more information visit www.cstem.org. 

This week on ...  For the People... law in plain language with Debra D. Rainey, Esq.  Be your own “Johnny Cochran’ The Art of Representing yourself in Civil Court Have you ever received a demand letter, complaint or other document in the mail alerting you that you are being summoned  to court? What are you prepared to do if you discover  you cannot afford an attorney but you still have to answer the documents you received?  Do you know the potential consequences if you fail to respond to these documents? Are you prepared to proceed as your own   “Johnny Cochran”  if need be? Tune into this episode to be educated, & at times bemused & befuddled FTP Style.  PSST ever heard of Birthday Cake Vodka? You will. Check out our website: www.ftplawradio.com. G-TOWN RADIO STUDIO LINE 215-609-4301 EMAIL: info@ftplawradio.com SATURDAYS  5-6:30 PM (EST) Note our new Date & Time Host: Debra D. Rainey, The Compassionate Lawyer Cohosts: Blaq aka the ‘Broke Poet’ and Asia Proctor aka ‘P-roc’ Director of Programming:  Robbin K. Stanton, aka ‘Aunt Robbin’ Musical Director/Board Genius: BreeAyre Anderson aka ‘Kewl Breeze’ Budding Potential New team member: Niche ‘Che’ Adderly Executive Producer/Production Consultant: Renee Norris-Jones aka 'Simply the Producer’ Air Date: July 25, 2015 Weekly Podcasts: FTPlawradio.com, iTunes & Podomatic Like us FACEBOOK    ~   Follow us TWITTER ~ LISTEN with the TUNE IN APP on your SMARTPHONE ~    

For Beyond 50's 'Historyâ?? talks, listen to an interview with Ron Weber. He'll discuss about a little known Black History event that was America's worst racial riot - a white on black massacre of hundreds that occurred in 1921 in Greenwood (near Tulsa), Oklahoma. The tragic incident was related to oil production and wealth from it. In 2001, the case was taken to the Supreme Court. Famous attorney Johnny Cochran and a team of high level lawyers represented the surviving victims and their families in hopes of financial reparations. Tune in to Beyond 50: America's Talk Radio Show on the natural, holistic, green and sustainable lifestyle. Visit www.Beyond50Radio.com and sign up for our Exclusive Updates.

SPOILER ALERT! Chad was lucky enough to get tickets to see Trey Parker and Matt Stone's “Book of Mormon” as the show traveled to Indianapolis. Here are his thoughts on the show. Enjoy! Twitter: @SecularPodcast @Obsessiveviewer @mr_chubs79 Email: TheSecularPerspective@gmail.com Facebook: facebook.com/thesecularperspective Tumblr: http://thesecularperspective.tumblr.com/ Episode Index Website: TheSecularPerspective.com Theme Music Provided By: http://www.jewelbeat.com/ PLEASE CLICK HERE TO DONATE TO CHAD'S CHARITY! Or, plug this link into your internet search window: https://www.extra-life.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=donate.start&destination=P&eventID=520&participantID=93945 Tags: Secularism, Atheism, Agnosticism, Humanism, Antitheism, Religion, Belief, Faith, God, Children's Miracle Network, Book of Mormon, Old National Center, Broadway, Musical, Trey Parker, Matt Stone, South Park, Jesus Christ, Missionary, Orlando, Uruguay, Clitoral Mutilation, Elder Price, Elder Cunningham, Christianity, Joseph Smith, Salt Lake City, Irony, Africa, AIDs, Hell, Satan, Adolph Hitler, Jeffery Dahmer, Johnny Cochran, Children's Miracle Network