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Danny Bernstein is the Managing Partner of Reservoir Ventures and the CEO of the Reservoir, an ecosystem of nonprofit and for-profit ventures tackling California's most urgent challenges and opportunities. Before founding the Reservoir, Danny spent 20 years in Silicon Valley leading business development, partnerships, and developer programs at Google and Microsoft. At Google, he worked across products like Search, Chrome, Firebase, and Google Identity after the acquisition of Meebo, a Web 2.0 startup that was sold to Google 2012. At Microsoft, he led critical product lines for Microsoft Teams. — This episode is presented by MyLand. Learn more HERE. — Links The Reservoir - https://www.reservoir.co Danny on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannybernstein/ Join the Co-op - https://themodernacre.supercast.com Subscribe to the Newsletter - https://themodernacre.substack.com

After building and selling Meebo, Seth Sternberg wanted his next venture to transform lives at scale. A decade later, Honor has become the world's largest home care network, delivering care to 35,000 US homes daily. In this candid conversation, Sternberg reveals how AI saved the company from near collapse in 2015 and why treating caregivers like true professionals creates better outcomes for everyone.We cover:

The battle of Eriadu is a threat not more, but an actuality as the story behind the fated event gains speed in the pages of Dark Horse Comics' The High Republic Adventures Phase III The Wedding Spectacular one-shot, The High Republic Adventures #13 and Dispatches From the Occlusion Zone #3 (of 4).In Marvel's Ewoks #3, Wicket finds a new friend amid his peculiar predicament as Asha teaches Meebo what it means to be part of the forest, not just live in it. Star Wars: Ahsoka #6 adapts the meeting of Sabine and Ezra in an emotional scene while Thrawn readies to return to the galaxy.Comics Discussed This Week:Ahsoka #6 (of 8)Ewoks #3 (of 4)Dispatches From the Occlusion Zone #3 (of 4)The High Republic Adventures Phase III #13The High Republic Adventures -- The Wedding Spectacular One-ShotStar Wars Comics New to Marvel Unlimited This Week:Star Wars (Vol. 3) #50Inquisitors #3 (of 4)News: Checkout the Bluesky and Facebook pages for the latest covers for Legacy of Vader #2, panel and pages from Free Comic Book Day 2025's Star Wars issue, as well as Jedi Knights #2.Charles Soule spoke to IGN about Kylo Ren's time between The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker films in the upcoming Star Wars: Legacy of Vader series from Marvel.Upcoming Star Wars comics, graphic novels and omnibuses:Dec. 24 _ Darth Vader: Black, White  Red TPB (Collects 1-4)Dec. 25 _ Battle of Jakku — Last Stand #1 (of 4)Dec. 31 _ Darth Vader (Vol. 3) Vol. 10 TPB “Phantoms” (Collects 46-50, Free Comic Book Day 2024: Star Wars #1 Darth Vader Story)Jan. 1 _ Ahsoka #7 (of 8)Jan. 7 _ Star Wars Legends: The Empire Omnibus, Vol. 3 (Collects Jabba the Hutt - The Gaar Suppoon Hit 1, Jabba the Hutt - The Hunger of Princess Nampi 1,Jabba the Hutt - The Dynasty Trap 1, Jabba the Hutt - Betrayal 1, Free Comic Book Day 2012: Star Wars, Boba Fett - Enemy of the Empire 1-4, Agent of the Empire - Iron Eclipse 1-5, Agent of the Empire - Hard Targets 1-5, The Force Unleashed,  The Force Unleashed II, Star Wars: Blood Ties 1-4, Star Wars: Blood Ties - Boba Fett Is Dead 1-4, Star Wars: Empire 1-4; material from Star Wars Tales 7, 11, 15-16, 18-20; A Decade of Dark Horse 2)Jan. 8 _ Battle of Jakku — Last Stand #2 (of 4)Jan. 15 _ The Battle of Jakku — Last Stand #3 (of 4)Jan. 21 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III TPB Vol. 2 (Collects 6-10)Jan. 22 _ The Battle of Jakku — Last Stand #4 (of 4)Jan. 28 _ Jango Fett TPB (Collects 1-4, Revelations (2023) story), Saber for Hire TP (Collects 1-4)Jan. 29 _ Star Wars: A New Legacy One-Shot, Ewoks #4 (of 4), Echoes of Fear #4 (of 4), Dispatches From the Occlusion Zone #4 (of 4), The High Republic Adventures 2025 Annual, The High Republic Adventures Phase III #14Feb. 5 _ Legacy of Vader #1Feb. 12 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III #15, Hyperspace Stories: The Bad Batch -- Ghost Agents 1 (of 5)Feb. 19 _ Ahsoka #8 (of 8), The High Republic — Fear of the Jedi #1Feb. 26 _ The Rise of Skywalker Adaptation #1 (of 5)March 4 _ Hyperspace Stories: Qui-Gon original graphic novelMarch 5 _ Jedi Knights #1March 12 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III #16March 18 _ Star Wars Legends: The Old Republic Omnibus Vol. 1 (New Printing) (Collects Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (2006) 1-50, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - War (2012) 1-5, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Handbook (2007) 1, material from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic/Rebellion (2006) 0)March 19 _ Hyperspace Stories: The Bad Batch — Ghost Agents #2 (of 5)March 25 _ Star Wars: Inquisitors TPB (Collects 1-4)April 8 _ The High Republic: Edge of Balance: Premonition; Crimson Reign Omnibus (Collects 1-5, Star Wars 19-25, Bounty Hunters 18-24, Darth Vader 18-24 and Doctor Aphra 16-21)April 22 _ The High Republic -- Edge of Balance (Vol. 4), Echoes of Fear TPB (Collects 1-4)April 23 _ The Bad Batch -- Ghost Agents #3 (of 5)April 29 _ Star Wars: Ahsoka — Season One TPB (Collects 1-8), Crash Zone TPB (Collects Crash Landing, Crash and Burn and the 2025 The High Republic Adventures Phase III Annual)May 3 _ Star Wars Free Comic Book Day #1, Star Wars: Young Jedi Adventures Free Comic Book Day #1May 6 _ Darth Maul: Black, White & Red Treasury Editions (Collects 1-4)May 7 _ The High Republic Adventures -- The Battle of Eriadu One-ShotMay 20 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III Vol. 3 TPB (Collects 11-13, Wedding Spectacular One-Shot)June 3_ The Battle of Jakku TPB (Collects Insurgency Rising 1-4,  Republic Under Seige 1-4, Last Stand 1-4)June 17 _ Star Wars Legends: The Rebellion Omnibus Vol. 3 (Collects Star Wars: Shadow Stalker (1997) 1, Star Wars: Rebel Heist (2014) 1-4, Star Wars: A Valentine Story (2003) 1, Classic Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1994) 1-2, Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (1996) 1-6, Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire Mini-comic (1996) 1-2, Star Wars: Tales From Mos Eisley (1996) 1, Star Wars: The Bounty Hunters – Scoundrel's Wages (1999) 1, Classic Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (1994) 1-2, Star Wars: Tag & Bink Are Dead (2001) 2, Star Wars: Tag & Bink II (2006) 1, Sergio Aragones Stomps Star Wars (2000) 1, Star Wars Infinities: The Empire Strikes Back (2002) 1-4, Star Wars Infinities: Return of the Jedi (2003) 1-4; material from Star Wars Kids (1997) 12; Star Wars Visionaries (2005); Star Wars Tales (1999) 2, 4-8, 10, 12, 15-17, 20)June 24 _ Star Wars Modern Era Epic Collection: Yoda's Secret War (Collects Star Wars 15-30, Annual 1-2); Dispatches From the Occlusion Zone TPB (Collects 1-4)July 8 _ Ewoks TPB (Collects 1-4)July 22 _ Star Wars Modern Era Epic Collection: Yoda's War (Collects Star Wars 15-30, Annual 1, 2)

In this episode, Erasmus Elsner is talking to Seth Sternberg the co-founder and CEO of Honor, which is a managed marketplace for in-home care that has recently announced a USD 370m Series E led by Baillie Gifford. 00:00​​ Intro 01:19 Elevator pitch 02:19 Original inspiration 05:28 The Meebo experience 08:06 Serial founder problems 09:06 Getting the founder team together 10:52 The Honor MVP and marketplace model 14:52 Marketplace supply side 19:44 Marketplace demand side 21:57 Fundraising journey 25:07 Growth capital rounds 27:07 Expansion strategy 28:56 Homestead acquisition 31:45 Competitive landscape 31:45 Competitive landscape 34:08 GTM and growth strategies

Welcome to another installment of the exciting podcast series Laser Focused, brought to you by Velo 3D! This is a show that takes you on a journey of discovery with the leaders that are revolutionizing how we think of additive manufacturing. Join the CMO and Brand Disruptor at Velo3D, Renette Youssef, for in-depth conversations with industry professionals discussing their own innovations and how to make the impossible possible. This week she is joined by Max Haot, the Founder and CEO of Launcher. Launcher is a developer of some of the world's most efficient, high-performance rockets for small satellites. He is here today to discuss how they have utilized 3D printing with the building of their rockets and all the work they continue to do at Launcher. Hear about Max's journey from getting started in Europe with building websites for giant brands like Manchester United FC, the European Tour of Golf and even the Patriots, to making the leap to the United States and starting his own company called Livestream and then Meebo. From the internet to aerospace, we get a first hand look at the story of Launcher, what they are trying to achieve and hear about what sparked this exciting and game changing venture. Did you know Launcher recently purchased a metal additive solution from Velo3D to push their progress forward? These days satellites are getting smaller and smaller, think the size of a loaf of bread or a grilled cheese, and Launcher has been working hard to build useful solutions to getting them into space. As technology and humans around the world advance, we are establishing a greater need for infrastructure in space and Launcher is helping facilitate that. So what are you waiting for? Hit that play button and get ready for a great episode of Laser Focused, presented by Velo3D, where together we innovate without compromise. Follow UsTwitter @VELO3DMetalFacebook @velo3dInstagram @velo3dPresented by VELO3Dwww.velo3d.com

Here's a bonus episode where I talked with the seasoned leaders Diego Mendes and Jessica Ko on CogX2021 Festival 2021. We discussed some of the challenges on hiring your first designers and growing your team: Should Product Design, Marketing and Branding be in the same team? Should you hire an unicorn designer? How to hire diverse talent? If you're a founder and don't know who to hire on the design side, this is for you. If you're a new head of design trying to grow a team, this is for you. #designleadership #google #facebook #opendoor #chegg #pocket #meebo #playbook #branding #marketing #cogx2021 #cogx --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/cellsandpixels/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cellsandpixels/support

Seth Sternberg, Co-founder and CEO of Honor discussed the innovations his company is making in the personal care market.  It starts with focusing on the Care Professionals and treating them with respect by understanding their preference and given them agency by providing the proper training, giving them the right tools, setting expectations and ensuring they are working in the right environment.  Honor’s approach seems to working as its net promoter score from their Care Pros is 68 which is well above most employee NPS scores.  Show Notes:  Seth’s chosen book is The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided By Politics And Religion by Jonathan Haidt.  Seth enjoys podcasts tied to bicycles and science and his two favorite are: Marginal Gains Cycling Podcast and The Peter Attia Drive Podcast.  

Seth Sternberg, Founder of Meebo & HonorHonor is working to re-invent in-home care for parents. Honor is on a mission to enable parents to live in their own homes for as long as they please! Honor has 300+ HQ employees, is operating in 6 states and has raised $220M+ in capital.At Google Seth was Product Management Director for Google+ Platform. They launched Google+ Sign-In, a great way for users to connect their Google experience with the rest of the internet. Seth Co-Founded Meebo along with Elaine Wherry and Sandy Jen. He is Incredibly proud of the entire Meebo team and all that it accomplished - they reached north of 100M US Uniques monthly and revenue in the mid 8 figure range. Meebo was acquired by Google in June, 2012.Prior to Meebo Seth was at the Stanford GSB. He left a few weeks into his second year when Meebo began growing too fast to concentrate on both. His first job out of school was at IBM in their Corporate Development group where he learned a ton. Seth Sternberg joins me today to discuss how he got started as an entrepreneur creating Meebo, with some of his fellow business school chums. Seth discusses the many challenges with startups but also how mission driven startups pushes you through to the rewards. He also shares how his station in life informed his next venture, Honor, an elder care provider company and how that company utilizes technology. Seth shares with us how being a mission driven company has helped him to perform better as a business. Honor had some challenges during the COVID pandemic and Seth discusses the many ways that the company addressed them and innovated during a difficult time. “I could have some pretty great returns, but I could also truly make the world a better place for a certain segment of the population. And that's like, by far the number one thing that being a mission driven company, I think gets us is really great people.” - Seth SternbergToday on Startups for Good we cover:How to find good people to work with on startupsDoes the team come first or the ideaManaging an elder care company during COVID-19Machine learning and how it relates to the complexities of elder careLong term orientationHow to communicate with employees differently than investorsConnect with Seth on Twitter: @SethJSSubscribe, Rate & Share Your Favorite Episodes!Thanks for tuning into today's episode of Startups For Good with your host, Miles Lasater. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on your favorite podcast listening app.Don't forget to visit our website, connect with Miles on Twitter or LinkedIn, and share your favorite episodes across social media.

Learning doesn’t end once you’ve earned your degree. Developers and engineers must stay up to date with their skills and emerging technologies. But most of the time, employees are expected to take on this additional learning on their own.Our guest this week on CTO Connection is Kwame Thomison, a consultant and leadership coach formerly of Meebo, Facebook, and Asana. Kwame discusses different learning models that can be integrated into workplaces to create a strong culture of learning and collaboration. He talks to Peter about the difference between high learners and light learners, and a framework for value creation.[01:27] - Becoming a force multiplier[05:11] - Differences in culture & experience[08:13] - Facebook in the early days[10:00] - Finding balance at Asana[11:54] - The rewarding demands of consulting[13:40] - Heavy vs. light learners[15:01] - Communities of practice[22:04] - Learning guilds[25:40] - Project guilds[28:18] - Tips for growing a learning cultureSpecial thanks to our global partner – Amazon Web Services (AWS). AWS offers a broad set of global cloud-based products to equip technology leaders to build better and more powerful solutions, reach out to aws-cto-program@amazon.com if you’re interested to learn more about their offerings.CTO Connection is where you can learn from the experiences of successful engineering leaders at fast-growth tech startups. Whether you want to learn more about hiring, motivating or managing an engineering team, if you're technical and manage engineers, the CTO Connection podcast is a great resource for learning from your peers!If you'd like to receive new episodes as they're published, please subscribe to CTO Connection in Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving a review in Apple Podcasts. It really helps others find the show.This podcast episode was produced by Dante32.

Hey Guys, welcome back to another Episode of Celeb Talk Girl Talk.On today's episode we have our first guest joining us, Tamika Flores! She's Jaanais's Best friend and the God Mother to her son! She is a 27 year old Puerto Rican from the Bronx, a Retail Manager for Aeropostale, and like most ladies figuring out how to date in this concrete jungle! Our Girl Talk Includes:Traditional ways of meeting a guy versus the new ways of dating through Apps. such as:Tinder, Plenty of Fish, Bumble, and Hinge. We Give a Shout out to Sconex, Meebo & Aim!We tell the story on how our parents met,We give our thoughts on how we feel about PDA, andWe talk about a few Celebrity love stories!We talk a little about Ghosting & Sliding into DMs (stay tuned for more in another episode)Lastly, make sure to stay until the end for an enticing game of would you rather!Interested? Grab a Cup and Join the Talk!!!!!Follow @celebtalkgirltalkpod @natasha_fig @jayrosexoxo on Instagramand our guest Tamika @xii_xci @celebtgirltalk on Twitter and don't forget to Rate, Review, and Subscribe!Music by WordSmithCover Art by Ria

Elaine Wherry (@elainewherry) joins Erik on this episode to give us the playbook for recruiting for your startup. Elaine was co-founder of Meebo and is now investing at Edelweiss VC (https://www.edelweiss.vc) alongside co-founder Lee Jacobs (https://www.leejacobs.co).Elaine explains her superpower — being able to build quantitative systems around qualitative characteristics. She talks about how to evaluate candidates with your team and the way she uses TaskRabbit workers to calibrate her team’s assessment of a candidate. Elaine discusses why work simulations are so important in hiring and breaks down how you create a good simulation. She explains why she asks behavioral questions exclusively in interviews. She tells founders that it's okay (and ideal) if they are spending more than half of their time recruiting. Elaine points out that an employee’s experience on the first day is the best predictor of the length of their tenure.She talks about the “recruiter honeypot” that she set up — a fake profile on LinkedIn of a Javascript programmer. She looked at how recruiters approached it in order to potentially hire those recruiters to her company.She also addresses some of the biggest misconceptions about recruiting and talks through how to deal with some of the thorniest aspects of managing people, including annual reviews, compensation, and having difficult conversations.Quotes From This Episode“The test of a work simulation is that any smart, well-intentioned person should fail that simulation.”“[When interviewing someone] within the first five minutes, you have a tendency to have a reaction. It’s easy to fall into first impressions, but it’s your job to challenge that first response.”“If people just want to get their review to find out whether they got their raise or their bonus, that isn’t going to be a great conversation, so my goal is to de-couple that.”“People always seem to care more about where they stand in the organization than they do about where they stand outside the organization.”Thanks for listening — if you like what you hear, please review us on your favorite podcast platform. Check us out on the web at villageglobal.vc or get in touch with us on Twitter @villageglobal.Venture Stories is brought to you by Village Global and is hosted by co-founder and partner, Erik Torenberg. Colin Campbell is our audio engineer and the show is produced by Brett Bolkowy.

Elaine Wherry (@elainewherry) joins Erik on this episode to give us the playbook for recruiting for your startup. Elaine was co-founder of Meebo and is now investing at Edelweiss VC (https://www.edelweiss.vc) alongside co-founder Lee Jacobs (https://www.leejacobs.co).Elaine explains her superpower — being able to build quantitative systems around qualitative characteristics. She talks about how to evaluate candidates with your team and the way she uses TaskRabbit workers to calibrate her team’s assessment of a candidate. Elaine discusses why work simulations are so important in hiring and breaks down how you create a good simulation. She explains why she asks behavioral questions exclusively in interviews. She tells founders that it's okay (and ideal) if they are spending more than half of their time recruiting. Elaine points out that an employee’s experience on the first day is the best predictor of the length of their tenure.She talks about the “recruiter honeypot” that she set up — a fake profile on LinkedIn of a Javascript programmer. She looked at how recruiters approached it in order to potentially hire those recruiters to her company.She also addresses some of the biggest misconceptions about recruiting and talks through how to deal with some of the thorniest aspects of managing people, including annual reviews, compensation, and having difficult conversations.Quotes From This Episode“The test of a work simulation is that any smart, well-intentioned person should fail that simulation.”“[When interviewing someone] within the first five minutes, you have a tendency to have a reaction. It’s easy to fall into first impressions, but it’s your job to challenge that first response.”“If people just want to get their review to find out whether they got their raise or their bonus, that isn’t going to be a great conversation, so my goal is to de-couple that.”“People always seem to care more about where they stand in the organization than they do about where they stand outside the organization.”Thanks for listening — if you like what you hear, please review us on your favorite podcast platform. Check us out on the web at villageglobal.vc or get in touch with us on Twitter @villageglobal.Venture Stories is brought to you by Village Global and is hosted by co-founder and partner, Erik Torenberg. Colin Campbell is our audio engineer and the show is produced by Brett Bolkowy.

Roles expand and shift at a breakneck pace in a high-growth startup, says Meebo co-founder Elaine Wherry. Interns find themselves in charge of massive, mission-critical projects. Engineers are suddenly tasked with hiring and managing multiple teams. Wherry shares her insights on how to thrive in a rapidly expanding technology venture, drawing on the heady years between developing Meebo's initial instant messaging platform in 2005 and landing the company at Google seven years later.

Roles expand and shift at a breakneck pace in a high-growth startup, says Meebo co-founder Elaine Wherry. Interns find themselves in charge of massive, mission-critical projects. Engineers are suddenly tasked with hiring and managing multiple teams. Wherry shares her insights on how to thrive in a rapidly expanding technology venture, drawing on the heady years between developing Meebo’s initial instant messaging platform in 2005 and landing the company at Google seven years later.

Roles expand and shift at a breakneck pace in a high-growth startup, says Meebo co-founder Elaine Wherry. Interns find themselves in charge of massive, mission-critical projects. Engineers are suddenly tasked with hiring and managing multiple teams. Wherry shares her insights on how to thrive in a rapidly expanding technology venture, drawing on the heady years between developing Meebo’s initial instant messaging platform in 2005 and landing the company at Google seven years later.

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Seth Sternberg is the Founder & CEO @ Honor, the startup that provides homecare your family will love. To date Seth has raised over $60m in funding with Honor from the likes of Thrive Capital, a16z, Homebrew and 8VC. Prior to Honor, Seth was the Co-founder & CEO of Meebo, a web communications platform backed by the likes of Sequoia, Khosla and True Ventures. Meebo reached $50M in revenue and close to half of the US internet population before being acquired by Google for $100M in 2012. At Google, Seth became a Product Director working on the Google+ Platform and GoogleX. Seth is also a prolific angel investor with a portfolio including the likes of Fitbit and Gusto to name a few. In Today’s Episode You Will Learn: 1.) How Seth made his way into the world of startups with the founding of Sequoia backed, Meebo? How did he transition from social network to homecare provision? 2.) From his experience with Meebo, what are the biggest elements Seth has done differently with the building of Honor? What was successful the first time that he has carried with him to Honor? How does Seth approach the hiring process fundamentally differently the 2nd time around? 3.) Seth has worked with the likes of Sequoia, Khosla, Thrive and more, what are the commonalities that make the best VCs so special? Where does Seth believe VCs can add true value? Where do many seriously detract value? Why does Seth believe that 80% of VCs are actually detrimental to board meetings? 4.) What 3 questions must all founders ask when considering to take on a new investor? What is that investor-founder assessment structure? When there is a disagreement with investors, how does Seth approach this? What is the best method for doing this in as fast and efficient method as possible? 5.) Would Seth agree with David Barrett @ Expensify that we are going through a wave of founders creating companies for the quick flip? How does Seth's 20-year time horizon with Honor affect how he both thinks about hiring and individual scaling within the firm? Why is he so jealous of Google and Facebook with regards to this? Items Mentioned In Today’s Show: Seth’s Fave Book: The Firm As always you can follow Harry, The Twenty Minute VC and Seth on Twitter here! Likewise, you can follow Harry on Instagram here for mojito madness and all things 20VC. We also speak about Movidiam – as brands turn to smarter ways of creating video and digital content, the Movidiam platform offers faster turnarounds whilst maintaining or improving quality. They’re already working with some of the biggest, most innovative companies to help compare teams and freelancers across the global curated network of creative talent. Producers and marketers looking for the best creatives can get a shortlist from Movidiam’s account managers in hours – tailored to their project’s needs. Submit a brief or check out the platform at Movidiam.com.

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again you lease the beginning half that happens a lot love of focus but I think yeah I think she was singer for O choose audio I think you know you try going from dome about how was going as you do it and it was fun for which no good story with the most important things we got that story on hand and maybe actually help someone else yeah okay you know the subject matter itself to me is what they are doing psychedelics you know that's my love else it wasn't anybody's silly story so there is that you know I feel like there's a lot of stuff that can help you come out of it so if you can manage not hearing quality audio there will be a good thing who knows this this episode with the tech issues could we have three things recording audio just in case and they might not might work who knows yet is be patient with us please our equipment is elsewhere that's all we can say and them even Cameron is no action on it so I hope they they face fulfill their end of the bargain were there to replace it yeah because really thought a lot of love and then we don't get a lot back from me calling you about Meebo so the other digit temperatures is just no describing a product there's audit you remember the audio listeners and he tried a little bit but it was deftly like you said y'all were describing a mustache and I was like yeah looks like this and then you open this up and it's like the unusual words that yeah I couldn't tell if Dave wanted to really and I think I asked him get into the pit side of it in terms of like him doing it you know him describing it you know you said you said also that I do wrong that you this isn't this is it like a report card and this is all this is good the fact that we got it up and out and I was like I was the guy running around outside of the park and studio I lost my wallet I was frantically doing a lot of like I do want to work it was just a bad like I should I want to be in here so it's even weirder for y'all that I'm in the office while you are 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shooting look I'm crushing out my taxes right now for the business of total body consulting the officer sitting in us refer this and it QuickBooks is terrible I gotta get off that I got delivered fresh books I don't I administratively I can't I get that Florida snowball where I can't get that move over yet but I'm going to the circus flock for QuickBooks freshwater life you will explain floors noble I don't remember what was it's when you have it you have a task or project you have to do and it keeps need you to come to delaying it whether you procrastinate whether it's a legit reason or not and then it just becomes this huge thing that you never get to in this case it's no it's Artie melted now after sucking cramped it's literally the opposite it's a snow globe KYLE never keeps growing and then it just melts eventually I think of a better name that you get will go to their source I know I'm still pushing Florida's no-fault wide yeah itself it will figure out a better term Outlook I'm elastic with it I'm flexible and I'm to say go fresh books.com/sweat baggage that 30 day free trial that hook up holler fear me all are I I've got you do you have anything you want to talk about I think the lead will talk about is it is kind inside Yukon outside of you yeah so where does it for doesn't lie just if you're not big management rose talk I want to fast for the next at least five minutes probably I hope it's a whole pocket honestly it were a public service I've got a hemorrhoid right now that it's life-changing and it's been a learning experience I've got all sorts of new issues so first of all you can get hemorrhoids from sitting on the toilet to figure that out I knew that before I got there wife but what I figured out I was doing was sitting on the toilet to avoid my kids asked me to do stuff they will bother anyone proven my guess so to sit on the toilet take my sweet time and one day that it just happened all was going far did you feel it yeah like his older son yeah was the first time that it was like late late came out I was like oh no really I had on the music as it does normally it kind of Pulitzer for slowly but this left for trip felt so it was good it's legit it was a big one is big one still will deal with it but I do it it's like really painful and I got buddy whose physician's assistant and it was of the pointer is like you're have to come over and looking somewhat BH and he was all for if it is a beautiful everybody wedding, he would totally do it will be weird about it you got have a friend like that yeah and menus Marine's budget but so in anticipation of my body looking in my but I trimmed down there and now I'm dealing with the worst chafing possible and I don't know what to do minutes just everything just it's a Florida snowball man no it also describe it is so sarcastic it just keeps frontages one thing after another keeps Avenue I wish to adjust them right at this point now every time I get you notice how you can best be to get up at go to the cross of all of them like yeah we'll get to it preshow we are trying to figure out tech issues are our friends across the hall to eight monkeys and dimming out bizarre frequent guest of the program I like to discover their office I didn't even put that together I was in the zone working on executive summary farm is his plan hydrocortisone can you pick can you get some with talking music mind that that's up from a bath I know I noticed it is asserted yeah I think you're going have to find my my blanket on the dude's name I love what can you log and you have yeah yeah yeah why don't we start every show can you log is a little bit it does any log now I love arcade fire but they're not really bringing the birth like Kenny Loggins so how many days we had this this is like two weeks now well yeah and it's it it slowly gets better no matter, what you do always what I've done flipping the Lincoln high school gets better right will no remember that campaign several of I'm just I was okay of the hemorrhoidal way yeah it'll go away I guess because I'm not really paying attention to it are the ones worried about last crack tree thinking to death so a little grumpy you won't talk more about it doesn't mean does it affect your energy yeah in the crazy did the tell anybody know when characters write no will to hear that get off your lazy ass through the thing I care because it's funny right and that's what you know about is I know is brighten your day the funny thing to me is when your friends drink too much and barf like I don't know why I think it's because there's a punitive a little bit and when you bar I hate barfing so much that I think it's so funny because you can't breathe it is kind like this you know this pain is temporary sits up some real yeah and you brought it on yourself really really injured before you really start about life you know what my friends at right right even minor injuries will be funny if you're not injured wasn't next yeah what is it comity equals pain plus time overall over a little bit sometimes it's immediate and beautiful man should ever that I have what made you name it yeah Alfonso, you name it like like the name the hurricanes next will be be the name is you plan on another incoming the back of the last one out that Manuel was as I have learned a lesson here is a site trusting like busting your first night and you like I from now on you will be doing more that you know like or is it just a one time the I am asking the question I don't know if my blood snow sure like it it's about more prone to it now if it is one all out I don't know yes when I is like a baby I anticipate at least 25 more Chris Kelly letters are in the alphabet 26 yeah spells you anyway so many others that going on in life my life do the work part was that like I didn't know about a pooper not because the nerve endings down there you don't realize that that's what's filling out the poop the pressure on the nerve endings so when those get messed up I'm some consul revealing my fiction I don't what is that it is okay in an it's this constant confusion I get that a lot think you have mud but it's your sweat yeah it is what it gathers long avoidance that I've got an asset doesn't quit is this done take any days off notification personal days and that he had quit so when it's hot out in Florida and I walked around Mike, I do probably 99% of the time it's never issue but I have to check so good I feel you yeah upcoming I might just get going a little bit embarrassing on justice, get down this level with you wow to sweaty butt holes is definitely that's not right you live in Florida yeah everybody every man is that I believe were thinking of the frequency of which I have to do this I Smith I know most of you know I run hot to yes so there's that part is well I'm sitting on your saddle which I'm sure would hurt all overly say Erica saddle share in which I highlight because it actually makes me sit up half the time my postures that I'm going like scoliosis most of the time I know so I've got I got kind of a topic that I did run by you before and I meant to we are Stu too many things anything else you got no no other things grown out of me or anything that's it so are we trying to shoot for with these episodes were given this one normal retraction for that 33 Mark we might have to do in the future or we might do my computer optimal what you got to talk about labels will keep sure the guy was upside so I listen to y'all's episode one of the few without me in it and dad I like the shout outs talk about what I was doing pretty funny and I was walking the dogs understand think about it about faking it you make it kind of thing and not Ruth not really related to performance of urologist just how many people I talked to in the startup game or you know how many business owners who talk to about how the fake it till you take it kindly it's like everybody I write that social media to me is kind of that personal scale yeah because it's it would follow Israel I like I don't like that I don't like it scope coin F what is if you're missing out right I deftly have it for sure I deftly got a check is a might why do I give a shape I should be happy for people that doing all these things I'm the person I want to do a bunch of different things right entrepreneurial different things I like the variety is the spice of life but II deftly was like I need to not you know when things are good and our own don't don't get jealous or envious of what you see a histogram of your friends doing direction I want to do that yes the other side me though I know I got your being included battle of the hall and you know what you want your kids you will be letting her know that you got your kids young if you're taking them controllers of diverticulitis was a huge pain in the ass like it's working a little over so that's nice but yeah only I told Shlomo to start my just to leave have anywhere and unpack so what I'm saying is I get that social media life on a personal scale. It was nonbusiness he know a lot of people don't show the bad stuff and when they do it usually like I don't have health insurance I got a car wreck here's a go funny right you know that's the bad stuff I used to take miserable pics yeah I'm a joke but kind of like we go on spring break look like we've not had a good time at all in college yeah and just have that would those be the only photos out there my wife and I do that sometimes reasons do like to be at a show behind stage like really exciting which is fake like the word out about time I visited that's good nobody does that I think it's real life yeah I think the regular basis to do that we take the ugliest pictures of himself yeah. January does that yes I think like I think there's a over sharing thing were you know I was trying to do the accountable wake up take a picture of the watch deal how many days did you make it I did about three weeks and you know it becomes unraveled just for a lot of stuff at home as far as time management you were still moving in God thing that cut that throws in a variable that I can't really control yeah and that means not sleeping you should be posing a weeklong snapshot yeah I just googled one's week will soak my whole thing was like New York I agree with you because I don't turn off anybody else or not more people I had more people talk to me about this 430 wake-up thing little bit like anything iconic consistently post online the idea was to be consistent to I've ever an issue with routine consistency I thought this would give me accountable to Connie did my wife thought I was become a dish bag with it sounds like okay but can't bum me out so I was like just I don't need to do that I just I'll do it on my own I don't need a posted but it didn't two people did reach out to help them yet the accountability is what it's about now it's if you know you're having to pose that thing that that feeling of not doing it that's what that's what it's for so there's that weird I don't know there's a duality to me doing something to Matt for some kind of campaign like that personal but self-improvement thing but II will get back to kind of fake it till you make it in my big thing I heard Chris Sacca in areas thinks Chris Sacca look this up okay he is one of the main investors of Uber he's one of Phil land shark tank guys always wears a cowboy shirt I don't trestle of that shirt I do because I wear rodeo shirt that was my state shirts I like it because it's like as Zuckerberg with it.just total gray shirts every day you just don't have to think about it is that with this guy does he does these Servicemaster you every day yes now it's up I think your pearl snaps I'm not sure but it's deftly nestled Western he kind of textile but if you feel it feels like an old glove, thank based on lies to wear every day what he lives in Idaho Silicon Valley got now there's Idaho I think her Montana because you can tell that's how good he is yeah so I heard him on upon a podcast I want to sit with Bill Simmons is like three years ago he talked about how he started up and he literally said he just faked everything until he made he failed already wants with an idea that he got so ingrained in that he was like $-800,000 in like of his own not even not even like investor something it was like he was making money doing something on the sideline trend is one part and it backfired and then he had to start all over and he had like law school payments 2% like that and so I'm butchering probably a story but the main the main part was the way she got through was praying he said he thought this like they could to make it attitudes it's an entrepreneurial kind of philosophy a little bit so a lot of startups want to immature businesses three years or younger I said you kinda have to say yes to a lot of stuff get your foot in the door that you might not do yeah video tell me there's got to be Sony video thank you… Yeah I mean it's your like the fake it till you make it think it's like almost like the negative connotations were you know because it's your right everybody there is an aspect to it for everything don't be a phony it's just like you're being adaptable when you're being your wanting to learn about it you know it's really you just can't tell somebody don't know what it is that you're trying to do what I was like hey an like there's a really I we have a project that pays a lot I need you to do Adobe After Effects on video that's a situation like okay I know little bit practical rest I'd say okay yeah probably got a problem and then take a couple hours and you scramble uniting my fellowship yeah and I mean there's the thing about it is like we say it's for immature visit but you know any sort of new anything any sort of new aspect of the business is going to have you know it's like you don't know where it's going you don't know what you're trying to do with it so a lot of us do in real life a nonbusiness you discover your life so you know how to do this right at home your late dads do this a lot yeah I'm mounted on a nonexistent TV before I got it yet and it's like I got it I'm done it before yeah it's a it's a weird ego attachment thing you know like why only our generation has it as much but like her dad's generation stuff like I'd much rather just look like a jackass trying to figure it out in the front yard and look it up on the Internet and then actually learn how to do something correctly you know both have extreme the sale points right to life our generation just feels like on the Percy got a knife and I like I do like the older generations they go Amanda figured out phenomenally talking from a man's perspective really meet or dad perspectives like yet you just figured out that's what you do that's that's how you do it you just say yes you do it they were really asking you if you know how a lot of time a lot of people to go can you do this not you know how true this with our generation it's the other way to the extremities are either your snowflake and don't how to do it in your very honest yeah but you're articulating in a way that says I don't know anything about anything or your expert because you watch YouTube videos yeah I mean I've seen deftly both sides of it but it's like is the desire to learn it they are or not you know like we've had people that sleep I don't know how to do this and yet the holder through trust that you did you try did you Google it first drive as I frowned and I knew quite what were really good one of top five skills we have to just be patient to Google stuff yeah like for real like you can find out almost any how to do almost at its all out there you just need to be patient and figure out what exactly you need to search for the search term keyword that's important you know you don't necessarily know what you're looking for the best lesson I got when I worked at dimensional fund advisors mutual fund company in Santa Monica was was it right and I know I do Excel but I didn't know advanced stuff and I would ask a lot of questions because I was told no asked questions will don't don't sit on stuff and so it's better to ask questions and not but that I that shorthand right just saying ask questions after you've worked it out for a minute yeah after you've exhausted all of your mental capacities so I asked I would ask when I do this if you look at formula on Excel and I think Rochon John Shannon shout out to my buddy nobody but he was technically by Boster over me or whatever and it hears all to implement missionary this anywhere in my computer type is funky for all like that for him no is addressing the that is I'm so glad that everyone is 2122 that's the best legend we live in an era where we can do that right like how fortunate are we 10 years before you could yeah 20 it was like my parents and stuff like I really have to resist not doing that you can just type everything here the so far. Phil tells the yeah that do not know your audience but like what what I really want to get to his energies, contagious rights will so you're having a bad day and you don't bring that to the office rights I I vent to you but I think that's more cathartic when were talking about stuff going on personally a all energies already happened and it's all it correlates so heavily with what we do here to because worklife balance is used for an agency or firm or whatever we are this office so phenotyping of you can bring positive energy and you can go home and bring that guy around right now yet maybe a pessimistic parts is your personality test yeah but you bring positive energy yes you don't love anybody out yet as you say people is way to observe eight people I does the will think not expecting the good that happened that they have a questions and not going to be overly optimistic to that that was extreme example to give a figment to make it were you can have delusions of grandeur right things are going well room the right direction yeah I definitely have been guilty of that yeah it's doubly contagious all that stuff Alicia a little meter so to settle her energies were doing today it's on Apple watch Tony agrees here is a quick energy so I want to say is you know you might not want to do the job you're doing and I was there right I wanted to stand up for as I got older and my professional career wanted to do some entrepreneurial things like this and the deal was like decent good that day job bring positive energy because if you find people out it comes back to you yet twice as heavy. The fact that negativity but that's that I heard that almost blows my mind for every email you send out you get 2.3 DAC really like work emails that's why like people to stop emails, died but for something to be reformatted with that but my thing is like it has like almost an exponential effect on slaves yeah for sure like Evernote that she is person you know for the worst attitude you ever notice how much should they have going on in their life bad right this is right it's you kick that dog to what it can also that psychosomatic way to become a star of the show like it can have an effect on you physically hello they can safari you can create this echo chamber neither way talk about that with the online world were you can create an echo chamber of opinions you can do that with like positive or negative, enthusiasm definitely socially online please let something pop off my best friends Lincoln song used to tell me he inmate he makes himself self smile more when he talks because it puts in a better mood yet that we had to do when you're talking Brian Aguiar yeah you make sure he likes if you sing in a single little smile will demoralize doing you know that the jammin out the car listen to George Strait yeah it's like when I I accidentally do bad traffic move that somebody offer something and they try to get up next to me big cheesy smile every time given notice like that's yeah hello that was truly exactly Laura hold the bottom teeth like a if you tie on you loosen it yet the group here is more tension for do you mean but I think it's a big thing that and if you're by yourself a lot we do a lot of work that's like Connor isolated it's like I'm in a jam out this website for this ad campaign it's a lot of work we are just sitting the computer by yourself what short-term memory don't talk to the document running his own, thank and sometimes you know if you bring negative energy into that they chose it yet chose to consciously work if it does that with or in general is going to be like that that way or your art so abstract no marriage pretty records of the like that that leak you have the removal of the art is the closest thing to your your whatever you call your energy you know at that time that your your paintings on their telling is just clearly creative but if you're doing work it might not show up as obviously but it's in a business sense to if you were totally transparent we we we promote that we are as transparent as we can, be but if you show everything how the sausage is made every business has a weak point rocketing like hey you find my books, the law does like to do in his mind is not we can't find a bookkeeper we want to use up like that's an example right there like a known asked to hear about the hat and then be like note why would we short while we tell people that everything right they don't need to know it's not that were hiding anything right yeah does effective run post social it is something about now anything is is is all family background Amanda Reuters else's think my hemorrhoid is the badness coming out who you know I didn't think about that but maybe were the good I don't know it's got to go back in okay second not like a baby to so click the I think I got Lance to the no I cannot cancel my buddies chickened out that will not get better this is getting better slowly the you bring positive energy to that situation right my and really this I thought of this because I've I've always heard on the parenting tip and this is kind number one in my book I'm not a parent to rule by any means we'll wrap up with two kids are under two but before we had kids before you thought about it I would sure like sponge off a lot of energy right will so whatever you like my parents didn't want to talk about finances a lot were did want to talk about what, like a cold Norwegian family lifetime very right and I don't talk about feelings a lot yeah you your family by talk about feelings yeah healthy yeah we try to it's really just like they kids alone while being human yet so there watching the humans they see the most often and if you're going to be however you are there and want to be like daddy or mommy and so that's if you end up turning what happens know right now I'd like I handle situations people think I'm impatient I think I'm actually pretty patient I just like to vocalize a lot it impatient whites bother me immediately like little stuff yeah but people thought cut me a line all the time I don't know why they don't notice they do it it's my superpower. It's so weird it's so weird by why superpower is getting the shootings customer service person anywhere like you'll be by physically at a target or whatever right of the three people Joel somehow picked the wrong one every time Orville get the most should get them a ship for nothing manager what kind of like you don't think it's a contagious energy to do but note it online I never kid now I just think like a lot of people think I'm a hothead I think a lot of friends and I like now I do for comedic effect but like you know if you if you have 12 items and you go in that in the express line at the grocery store I get perturbed talk I'll say something about out loud but it's 10 items or less just the fact that you counted on 12 is okay 20 why the real Nozick speed limit in no speed limit 60 with real speed limit 70 okay how about this if you do it I'm cool but you gotta be quick but you gotta have some potato combines the lighting right X like me can't be like how I do this you can't especially slick self checkout should find someone that only leadership that a baseline I'm saying like there is there is a subconscious energy to bring night I caught myself like I get frustrated and mumble myself up my son my dad was like no under pass it on my kid I don't do that and apply have that going off work I don't realize it well I think the you know young men are like so fall tool delicately really aggressive and stuff I think Dr. Firefox up it's just a young yet why me like early 20s ago I told the older you get in the older your kids are going to get your tires are going to become and the less energy you're going to have to get this off about 12 items nowhere in other fungus for dad to come to take HGH or some clinic that it humongous well enough whatever whatever does what if I don't if I am what hell if I feel a lot better have big no not to get Jack to cite have more testosterone at a later age can this up that this would be good for your wellness area yeah I don't know if it's the best you know so I know you're like 30 units like 50s 60s you want to start HGH very I'm talking really small really small doses doses of small penis really forgot that no why I think were good on that note oh I got a couple little things with the practical pragmatic stuff I'll probably do little tutorial videos and will maybe I'll throw in a Leica compilation is a makeup episode or notice the little one minute guys Gary V style will laugh this podcast lab interview ones are maybe longer and will have like 12 minute tutorial deals who knows but I do have to do a lifelike content like that for other stuff and I realize you know as much as we can give this advice out in the podcast sometimes some things are best but I was asked how to get on LinkedIn's provider someone brought up on heritable professional directory sometimes you gotta have like Justin's own little isolated video if we did that during the podcast episode become boring to be born here and I have to like, do it live on tape kind of thing right were loyal to your left yeah I rather just do something for a minute have that posted yet online to help people out position was supposed to be primary device bring anything you got to the table I told but so did you have something other than just you know you can so there's a site called fark.com that I forward you a bunch of potential work so if you're in a professional service I was on the roof your website clipart handoff will move that's that's alas stupid dumb choices with my kids but part.com we it's it's interesting thing I would say try to catch these these potential sites that can bring in revenue before a lot of other people if you dominate there you might have his niche so our listeners should know about that it was a it it's a website development like this people logging all for website developers write a bunch of stuff I was in the web development so if you wanted to do those kind of bid on it as as the company like us we have a certain amount of credits that you buy to bid on jobs that it's a marketplace I put around the United States I'll take any bids look at them and will give up like 124 credits this 116 credits and then you bid on those to get it going get the talks are pretty interesting up work is a similar thing but they don't do the credits back and forth system and so the reason this once good to get on now is because it is a UK thing first I feel like there only marketing it to the demand-side not the supply side which is so that that's why get so many Latinos, dad I literally cleared out 500 Boston you must love anybody on there so we we pulled in our criminal defense attorney client Brett Metcalf from Hillsboro to fenced off last Friday and I said let's do a dummy test like I've done other sites for Sega DUI to lipids, there's only one so so as the I did dummy test is the user trying to find professional services in the ZIP Code were in or the like city and only one other attorney and also that tells me my hypothesis prion one point that this is it there's not a lot of business the other thing I have if you want to website Toca works.com TOC of W Arkansas.com our business website not our part aren't brand-new sweat equity podcasts website all sweat equity conduct you if you go to our business I told her works.com you can check out this little chat option so you not succumb to gullies after software sites   Check box pops up talk to you. 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collection our cards are really thick real great and it does make a difference when I have my card out and it's thick like that nine times out of 10 I have a conversation about it yeah that's true than the ones we got that you can mean you want to double as coasters but they're thick enough to be coaster like people make the coaster joke a lot of people like the outcast lyric on the back yes without so fresh and so clean to buy fresh books exactly and then that they did it's it's one of the things I thought business cards I thought all things are to be digital I thought all the stuff dying in we have to put money into a it's one of the things we paid a little bit more I'm not big on like we need look fancy with everything I mean look at our set up if you're watching the the video but it was one of those all things pay a premium for this it's giving us a lot more return on the investment so it's conversation starters good summary.com I will put our company referral code, like the refer a friend affiliate link thing yet no timeout share with a friend yeah we'll you always asked me if I have one for every app it's always no yeah because you're always you will I used to just say screw it I'm lazy about it I know I just got a stress free money it takes five seconds to just sit there and might figure it out if if there is one or not you know it's the pull of thing of you know what it is it's like I don't know my password is yes yeah exactly it takes me longer than five seconds I cut my thumb opening a can because I'm an idiot like old machete the green beans with using hand can opener I'm doing I'm going dad yeah I'm doing handcrank line break I'm going hard-core daddy I'm trying to help with dinner and watch both babies there doing their thing and open it like the the generic green beans one your life this company this is not the solution to my kids that they love the canned version instead of like fresh green beans sweet slick $0.40 is nice but it's weird so I'm opening it up in its it's because it's crusty doesn't open like that for the good stuff your thumb the Kennedy fellowship so you just I have to like get some torque on it a try to use a knife as a fulcrum MI this is stupid on I could do that in mice to hear my sunlight cough like almost sounds like it's choking a turnaround of Scott it look like I was bleeding like will it look like us try to commit suicide like that's on the sly lowest way possible right that that's how much blood was coming out just a tiny cut my thumb the detective said he was too stupid to kill himself and then went all dad have true Detective three nothing bad happened dad some we and it's one of those Wednesday I need stitches now I went down I went hard-core damage stitches. Superglue well I didn't think that you were like I think one of the glues is medically acceptable to use on your body yeah although I'm not a doctor so don't listen to me yeah I'll tell him to do it yeah I've done it before it were it works but I'm not can advise anybody do that because were all soft my thing was so I can even I can't use the touch idea my phone I didn't realize how much is that yeah and I had to get the other thumb on there but it doesn't do it for every app that you associated with you can add your other thumb but this coming this hand basically there for show doesn't do much it's there for the wedding ring oh that's weird I Exodus got a new wedding ring what you get it's from Quay low Pete's pics quail Q ALO to silicone wedding ring this is my second one because I got the men say men's and women's versions the men's versions all the they look like O-rings on a torpedo for a nuclear submarine working so I had the men's version and I hated it is it was humongous I didn't know how hard they wanted me to be married so I got the win version and it's half the size and it fits a lot better what golf check is rock and that that I know some say and it looks like a mentoring I went straight you went but you went that the the the comet cost-effective; cheap method that I did to just like I want to find a ring that is probably going to lose this thing you know you take it off to go out at night you know everything how this got us it makes her so uncomfortable as I you don't bring me into this this thing you're doing right if they go out of their way to say that they're doing it are like make a big deal out of it that's really creepy I just forget it all the time I know I'd then never taken off will now I got a silicone one I don't like the metal so the silicone I don't mind washing my hands with it and stuff doing things yeah yeah this is hot men's ring talk to and it was well done I back to my wife's business card is what I want to say I do hate the guys that have a really expensive wedding ring yeah for that aren't millionaires and even if you are doing right doesn't matter I don't like that only those yet for some reason usually I can't hang with that kinda it's just you come across more like a sucker than anything that you got suckered into buying this this declaration the whole diamond the whole diamond ring thing is a total funking snake oil salesman bull ship thing anyway I know I feel like we've talked about it would we get a lot of new listeners and how yeah I don't buy diamonds the bull ship yeah what was it do beers basically inflated the cost and then they said it was the perfect gift for engagement that it didn't exist any tradition before right this minute up diamonds like super common in caves where the diamond they get to get like that they're not like that rare of a thing to come across the not they really aren't Colton's monopoly for your for your batteries and all your devices that's like the new member like that's the new hotness of blood diamond mineral that's in your blood mineral basically right Colton so I'm in a move on from now on with that that's what it up that's the mineral it's just we have some mineral riffs of the batteries were using all these devices were they go right same with the the Honda like the electric cars yeah try not to say and I'm trying not to say like this I heard myself on the pad is paralyzing as good on the minerals once they start mining those asteroids get all minerals we need yeah will get to Mars man anyways tell you about this tachycardic so my wife sent me a screenshot of her business cards and they were not good in my opinion she liked him a lot coming in so much trouble for Fairpoint but I love your wife I was friends with her before syringe with you nowadays she has known her forever she's awesome she's got a good sense he is my dentist Yep she is a dentist so you know not design is not her thing and I were talking about what we want to talk about the podcast and it's the subject that came up was how to tell somebody that they're not good at design or maybe they don't have a good eye for design because I heard her business cards look like decoration at a nursing home that a good way to put it I was going party city best of the shady invites to a birthday party and let the 50% off any idea it's just too much right your meeting someone now if she was an event coordinator for kids parties blankets to give what you get paid like this if she eat out issues the GM of celebration station or Chucky cheese any of those hello this would be appropriate card I would say yeah she had a Nazi store your fine it's like the worst ways the $10 of ever say maybe Skip the beer she won't good thing I don't think she listens the party knowingly my wife does either it's all right two however she's not give a picture of great love you babe the worsening women love the backpedaling cabinet out of nowhere from not the conversation topic what would you not just beautiful so great a little flustered what will rid you of our you've got about this so no I would just I would've brought it with me as well that we do video I don't actually have physical copies of them yet is was this picture that she had sent me and put it on our slacks if you can pop that up to maybe put it towards the Meebo camera I don't know okay but will put will put it with the description yeah you'll see the is you'll look at it for too long her dress it reminded me of like glorious turning 50 cut invitation sangria party Lordy Lordy yeah laws 40 so how do you tell someone bad design right and it's really tough it's it's similar to sense of humor you come from the commie world like we do it's it's tough to be like look The Big Bang Theory isn't funny a lot of people watch that show I can't say that it's not funny I can just say hey I can… I mean like when you're talking to someone that you don't know that well you know you will be like I don't give it to socks it out to be fair I've never watched it but II can tell it's not primary goodwill if you think The Big Bang Theory is funny need to go online and watch the diversions that somebody's made really take up the laugh track how really gets dark very quickly really well it's just that the personalities of all the people are just so weird and you know asked burgers the yet it's like oh this seems like some kind of school for special and the hot the hot chicks the the like she's the fish out of water and all these other people around her right that's the model for every sick and anytime the talk tours comes across super creepy without the laugh track it hopefully we can find out I hope I ruin The Big Bang Theory for about 500 looks really find that URL to put on the on the post yeah that after the show so I kind of rely on stats because I have I know I have a bad pallet so I'm not a good chef not a good cook right I know what I don't know we work on this I think individually as it's in a self-help you kinda wager I think it's important to go I'm pretty good here, too 10 here, 9/10 over here on this note encounter it's never yes or no binary, thing it's tough to tell everybody just like a sense humor thinks they have a good aesthetic and now it's at I can do it with a little bit of math so we had a we had some weird talking to I said let me just send you a strategy video on its own the house also new strategy digital strategy when your business, a film in an hour or whiteboard room and I'll go over it as I can do that pretty quickly and here's one thing that happens a lot of people really attached to shady logos Julia like I can relate this looks I know fear shirt from 1993 plot let's let's let's move provable to salute right or I or he decided or he or she desires in that they get really attached to bad design so we have this conversation kind of a lot I would say and you can't go it's absolute yeah I just go let's look at some of the competition who's the best in your industry and then you can kind it go through it go look three these out note no 3D that's a start, a simple rule of thumb yeah look at all the big brands out there what are the top Forbes 500 and overshadowing shut it you can do it but yeah it's not contest contemporary and they do that so that it's easier across the board for I guess I'm guessing and asking for printing in like branding on so as many things as possible yeah is the way to think about it yet will indelible so need to be unique you need to stand out the adjective I thought I try to use to sound smart is indelible I do look that up one time ago I put in a PowerPoint ever was and what is that mean I like yeah all I know is indelible ink yeah so it's unique undeniable so you want to have a brand it's so we talked about this and previous episodes branding brain is kind of that crazy elastic term the last couple years so it's that thing that defines you what people think of when they hear your name or see your logo and so the logos in brand names and slogans are really tough to do because it's squeezing all this stuff all this orange Jews are the orange to get you get just a little bit right you just want you have to economize everything away like a diamond write the center you go yeah like Colton know so with the logo the logo sets the tone for everything in your design guide basically most people I bring guides find recommended that I would save my thing is I just go on return investment I go okay let's use transit property like college football teams right this team bit distant this team so they could probably beat the state yeah so transit proper edge go look look look at the best in your business or the restoration is does not should've got a bunch of dental business cards for the whole industry is really bad with this stuff is then asserted by Dennis have this weird marketing company thing all over the country there's these companies that always used dental yeah and they drive they drive the sick they don't value design either because it it's it's hard to do yeah and it just dentists in general are not your normal they're not like doctors because there also they tend to be mechanically inclined or tactfully using their hands more because they accept to get in there and do these things that require fine motor skills and stuff like I flick they're just so unique mentally and in like what they're trying to do and are all driven in other all opinionated most of the time your wife likes to talk to me while I have all everything in my mouth I like all these tools right off the you understand this I try to like a light try to use my hands like to the side but anybody in the coach you know yeah exactly Telex the whistle apparently I sit do know that I've had a chipped tooth in the front for like 2 1/2 three weeks now that I told her Megan affixes it was my good look tooth now I have to get it fixed by her I hope you listen to this beforehand though she knows a nice chip I put in a podcast and listen and to start zone out on everything I listen are pico students get a bonus yes okay so how do you tell someone they have bad design it to same thing how you tell someone the address or it you don't speak to me simplistic never goes out of style general rule of thumb you can just look who's the best people are the best dressed people around you like almost kind of everybody knows like this the celebrity we can all agree is good to come over the celebrities will bring a bird out a pretty burned out P Diddy now just the aviator Julia in a NBA draft you did see the best suits clearly what the style should be that's actually the future style so you be ahead I don't know if there's there going crazy with the draft a TOTALLY okay got it wound suits yeah the pinstripes are like huge so to think about is like double-breasted coming back like giant bowties so I have I look at stuff and I just go what's going to be the best return on investment simplifying your designs a lot of the time the more exotic you get the more the more yet the yeah the more it drifts the eye of the user we try to keep things as pretty minimalistic as we can although I like I like detailed stuff and it has its place but for the most part if you want to make a bigger brand or you want to have a business card all that stuff distracting everybody is ADD now yeah almost like start small with the building of it and then if something helps functionality or whatever add on to it then but yet it's in the margin of error the more stuff your writing on there the more distracting it is more like the less likely it is to achieve what you're trying to do whether it's get new client whatever and in little things like I rehang her card out right her name is big because I want them to see that first we have a little hidden puzzle in there of like we called total body consulting toco works is because we need a shorthand name so we have it cut hidden some negative space in their but the main thing is I want them to see my name entitle your name and title and I'm not trying to oh I could overload them with a lot information believe I want to yeah as our titles have we have like five different things I want to put on their like shrinks like those dictators who put all of the metals on the third yeah well again I want to fire a shot I do want to badge system that fits her camping Brand theme, going on like that we could dress up like Boy Scouts we could Artie do no pants though I know but this time for real I just where the sash around the house that's it your family hey guys will focus on the badges of my thumbs waiting but he's my use my sash first aid badge so the thing of just changing font size relative to each other like this is small this minute this is not super sexy but this is almost mathematically you can look at some of the things and go right I did make a call to action bigger than the rest of information yeah care about our address on her business card like I can will lose it because this matter yeah but I like I like that people see were in the historic part of town it does pick up some conversation will I think for Arduino digital stuff that's good because you can see that it's a physical place that were a little bit legit you know where it's like if you have a store whatever something that obviously has a needs an office building then you will need your address yet we were talking to I was talking to our our our mustache client the mustache somebody data since you keep talking about it to sound like a guy with a mustache so must it's it's like we gotta figure out a pitch it it's a way to conceal blunts and joints right well I to the big that it will the tube is this two story but the little thing on the bottom he got the tube in a foot a little footer thing that inserts into the tube that you can ask into that's fireproof let your you have a way to put something out pages you put a cigarette out we've all been there right can I put this out of my hand tongue so not that good we were going over his business card and I like what he did use hemp ones rigging the center over here right now is excited because I go I'm not huge on those but you're it what you're going to be doing this business card is basically always selling yeah to that person even at the end user or you really trying to sell it to the person at head shop in Colorado that wants to buy a bunch of them yeah because you wouldn't be doing a lot of sweat equity getting around there trying to trying to get get this out there guerrilla style and get some feedback as we went to new product totally invented by him and I like that because that fits the brand theme the card might suck the design might suck but the the bill carry around this hence got a little little weak yeah Lori – I was like that so you have say we had a dentist that we talk to his business card with loss had floss in it do it all or do you do things what he thinks about branding yet he thinks like what can I hand out the people just to toss in their wallet or throw away immediately right and I say flaw it's not as though he's given a big plastic tube fly it's a business card size floss thingy that they've come up with yeah very convenient it's got utility I love it so I like if you Vista print cards no don't talk to me hopefully will fix what bad design those are and just the actual texture think of that in like this would I want to extrapolate this kind of stuff out a little bit from a business card out right to design design matters we have to agree on that principle design is undervalued I would say yes like graphic design severely undervalued big time because people think nowadays you just get stuck anything which you can but it doesn't really work the way you think it does right now you get into a new life that's not what it's my head what our big thing is were extracting your brain were trying to get your opinion because you don't know how to articulate it right I heard that it's almost only benefit the stock thing if you like everybody knows somebody who does design start sure so just the fact that everybody knows somebody who does it is it's kind of devaluing in itself the goal line you can always do I can always as this person under nothing to go back to sense of humor so it's like people think oh you should talk to Todd bro Todd's like the funniest book God used in our golf group my I deftly don't want me to write it's not the same kind of comedy yeah it's deafly probably pry references like wedding crash I know five minute he's the guy that is not funny just times movie lines at the right time right but it did work for that group they don't know it's redundant yes do they don't know it's duplicative so that's that they know they don't care if your prospective client was in this this is, how we really feel work in the room try to be very polite around it and run it, just miss you like well that's okay but let's list looks let's try to beat that I was try to say that if anything creative can we beat that holds true that's that's how it start out with that though the city one so be it some easy things are just like just no 3D no patterns that are confusing no symbols that are confusing you have to take a step back I I like to go around like 10 people I trust ago how does this look this design look just in case I am you get too mired in it you don't know if it's good or not where does your I go that's a big one that is a huge one for marketing materials and websites and apps people don't get it light right so there's UX UI the user experience that you ask and user interface that UI so the 30 that's why there, grouped together because her the pin diagram is very is overlapping pretty big UX and UI can increase sales front for your site or app it can increase whatever call action you have if you do it correctly I'm in ship if you put a Moji's in social media post copy or email marketing title subject lines you can increase open rates or or views of that post by a 5 to 8% I believe it I mean when our podcast pops up on our phones that yet subscribed my own pocket I got government down the judges one by one devil he catches your eye Julie I forget to post it with it yeah but it helps know for sure that's a universal language to the same Tyra glyphs and were going backwards it but that's the thing of like I just go right let me find a study to prove this point if I need to II know intuitively and I knew that because I I can cut it see behaviors and tendencies and trends and stuff yeah but I was like I was on the back this up so I'm not spouting out like I'm a creator of the view that I feel it in my bones yeah exactly so it's one of those things were II want to extrapolate to IKEA it like design of your store of your office your office that you're seeing a lot more stuff about office space design becoming way more involved it's all psychology all the stuff it's all psychology you basic psychology what what's the end goal of all of this design so that IKEA you have church go through a falcon labyrinth dip to get out if you're smart you going through the exit like I do go by whatever you buy right most people do that then we know you can do that I didn't know into the dolmen you get sent about you go get cinnamon buns aren't you worried about the IQ offer lease don't delay her police how they know no I think that a lot of weird rules feeding give other software's the Swedish learner do you think you know the the IKEA owner died the guy who invented it is the 94 years old is like two days ago.I saw a lot of Hakki joke hello yeah I was trying to doing about his gas building is candidate Haskins that's right remove his eye with my was his casket was partially built because the Allen wrench broker sent Mike that I that's all I got I don't where there's an angry dad build this poor guy's casket what about Walgreens versus CVS the way Walgreens was set up at a certain point in time if it may be different now consumer behavior you have pharmacy in the back your baby in the back because those are the two things impulsively like pharmacies moneymaker that's good bring people in so they have to go to that that look every time you go into one now diagonally usually from the door oh yeah at Walgreens for sure yes that sometimes a bit depends on drive-through but generally because it can't they want to drive through every time but sometimes buildings can't help it in Florida we just we love Shady orchid that's another shady architecture all over here things like retail centers help our chest I'm not getting it today also it will really know they do the thing when you go to check out where the they wrangle you into that the cow pen you know you have a run you through the lines that has candy on both sides and all that stuff it's all around us and yet we all come to know yet the end caps of a grocery store of the aisles it's good to be promoted stuff I know it and I've I've read a lot about it I still go boom cool yeah hot Doritos this is sweet the pig gave Scott yeah the big game this Sunday I guess you would add suitable ads work on me and I know the ads and I'm online I might yeah that's fine out the design of it we talk about squatty party with the video visually so stimulating that you have to stop and go away would like it if we didn't have ads would all still be wearing potato sacks you know it's kind of one of those things you don't want to say it tells you what's what's good or what's new or whatever but it without an ad for you wouldn't know about a lot of stuff so here's how I can come to tell mathematically quantitatively why design matters is I got into this world this nerd world from the from the online ad side it all you do when you do like product advertising campaigns is it's because there's no kind of emotion in it there's no people involved it's not lead generation for just selling stuff you want to get anything any human involved rights until the transaction happen for the lead generation then you gotta worry about how the calls made do people pick it up on time you know did the other did your client pick it up how it would how they talk to them all that stuff that's worth humans get involved in funk it up were we help we help clients with that but understanding e-commerce you look at it just pure math campaigns we do creative media okay rooted these 10 creative campaigns were to see which ones are stars and which ones are dogs and you can tell because you keep everything else even every all 10 campaigns of a budget of a thousand each in the same target audience so you're just you make in this trial and error test the most impairment is maybe castling is what they call everything so usually due to an UAB split and you go okay now Asian doing better than be now we need to have another one coming ago is that what's the reason why okay so it basically breaks down creative and a math way by like deductive deductive logic from the performance of the ad so to add your doing well and all things are equal right that it's the creative that is being that the variable so that's how you tell you can to mathematically tell good creative and then you over time this was called wisdom knowledge trust plus experience I would say I'm a wise owl but I would say I have enough experience and knowledge to go here's the kind of designs that work and here's the kind that don't you that for a time there used to be a thing we put a yellow upper right little outline of whatever the image was in and it would increase sales by 3% that's sounds negligible the 3% what is not I mean the road outside know it's huge it's that mean like if you do 1% conversion rate for ad campaigns for like a privacy around hundred dollars you were talking digital yeah that's that's huge yeah like good conversion rates three of not retargeting people like to straight campaigns anyway I just I just look at the mass out of it go okay does this I don't have a dog in the fight for clients either I just go hey this is prop this is better just aesthetically personally ago informally this tousled blonde veteran contemporary formally this is the time to start breaking this out to be bad guy good guy with formerly the phone is a informal off the record whatever you want to good cop my boss wants would want me to say this is yet some like that because I have to start have to be both guys a lot of time right it's really tough until we get a snappy gay guy to be our client service head okay what you can put it on LinkedIn I hope you love LinkedIn so much I do I do what I can pull I can plug them out you can't find out okay that's the that's for Facebook so so we can I just go look here's my style here's what I think doesn't matter but here's my opinion keep it out on the side on the mass side of this here's why we want to do this this and this for the design here's what your website can't have 13 sections to it because it loads to slowly the pattern people people so now if you have a similar pattern throughout yeah so if you three columns that another three call him in another yet nothing is more important than the other thing yes switching it up this is a loser like easy things like changing font size relative to what's important I mean I don't want to say of Clayton Pfeiffer design but it's like one of those things were I can look at something like I don't miss really know why you know and that's really annoying thing to say but i.e. could look better this way or the it's not working you know and most I forget that people don't always have that are you for what's what's wrong with her I know it's hard to say but I mean it's hard to articulate that side of it the other side were were sitting yeah I would say we I think what you're trying to say is theirs was the judge that convicted someone is like a federal case I don't know what pornography is but I know it when I see it right yeah some like that it says so that's kind of but the quota, sticks in my craw about design I just go I just go basics that a lot of people know hey on the website bright yellow button whatever you whatever bright color we have in our pallet are you free to bring guide call to action yeah called called Hilliard I know one thing is you want to do make that that color stick it right on the front pretty simple stuff so like there's you can always go back to the basics and then work up from their minimalistic simplistic is always the safest then you can get advance like IKEA and do that, stuff you can get advance like like Adobe does it too much I feel I further their branding me almost everything they have they have too much stuff that it's too much yet overwhelming will there their software's notoriously slow kind of pain in the ass right right II that's functionality of the slow part lately and just overwhelms me when I let people get overwhelmed when they open Excel you know because this is that if it's not there thing if it's super confusing that's why I view Squarespace is a good example we handed out to clients the the admin side what a lot of people incorrectly referred to as the backend is a simple menu it looks like an Apple product yeah right super simple the iPhone is a simple product that is so intuitive to-year-olds can play with it really work it people don't think about that stuff the someday there's this thing where I think people will think the more the better and get this little bit of information out there make it over hereto and then you know that it's not that way since I think about it like a wedding a wedding toast but I've seen so many horrible most are horrible there all bad especially the sorry ladies but if you do the thing words like I thought we got Redland bad leg when I can and they just they don't explain it limit is wink remember the dating, forever try yeah I remember I remember the notes cool inside joke at the wedding I'm sure I'm trying to bring up some hub hub spot has a lot of good information I love statistics I laughed and can I love stats man I love Moneyball extra 2% all these things the biggest one I want to bring up was how visual things are changing online for for just digital marketing would say trends you mean yeah trends yeah I was looking at that and I had to look up at the word brutalism meant what is mean is an architecture I guess but raw is basically the idea so here's a good example infographics are liked and shared on social media three times more than any other type of content now is why people like stats I think is my theory people like reading like quick stats yeah DZ content right cartoon stats yet we are all adults or children to do so you have to make a cartoon out of what would be back in the day and abstract to research paper writer marketing research because most people look they on time to read everything but if it some on social media tunic with all articles with an image once every 75 to hundred words could double the number of social shares than articles with fewer images now people want to look at stuff II heard the 90% of like posting content is the image to get the click for sure I think headlines become bigger now I think we go to them because are more salacious now visual content is 40 times more likely to get shared on social than any other type of content I believe it 100% I'm just try to pick and choose a few something I saw that we had talked about that's on this list of trends as cinema graphs you don't know a cinema graph is if you ever seen a it basically is a picture with a small part of it moving as though it's a video oh those are cool though like a still picture with the fire and it were only the fire is moving I love those those are cinema graphs and I learned how to do it one day and then for will there either is I've been advertise to a lot by one company that does it really well yet both perfect for us to fire campfire we could do it I think we could do it ourselves which got a set of that we have 28 monkeys in animation I   but in no we want to bother him but you go over there knowing I can hold them like I do disco hey any change they do with us hey you how to do this is in the so it's really easy to go no it's not that hard yeah I know that sand the do I the part parts film and it I believe gift of the letter no I will break it down but I'm trying to look at a few other things in them will close it out current we've got there's a lot of stats on here help up with this link and there's well look at things as saturated ingredients house at a gradient saturated oh this is the other link I gave you yeah website design yeah just want to mess with you on the 15 web design trends Yep saturated gradient Little give any definition of anything I don't like the trending web design stuff because we don't do a lot of lifestyle brands yet I guess we read we do a lot more professional services I guess just not by just happenstance yes so we do a lot more timeless design classic cleaning featherbed like a suit right not to be a suit just a regular "ties these yet to clean always looks good it if you don't have a lot of money to buy suits like I was was you just go simple simple pinstripe symbol of Navy Sue goes back to everything even talking about minimalistic simplistic list mess up serif fonts are big city like a lot of the stuff is like cool lifestyle luxury items we don't live in that large like the stuff were the clients we have don't have a luxury product or service usually a dimension serif fonts that's that's all the people don't know what that means I had learned about the other day I may have little decorations on the little the bottoms are ends of the sticks that are making the letters know that it's the creative fonts basically yeah well so if you have a low lawyer work we do a lot of law firms were not used a lot of serifs stuff right usually I guess a serif font is used because it's easier to read it makes the letters more distinguishable yeah I mean the act depends on blah blah let's originally I think that's where they came from I went to look that way I think I I am browsing the Internet are not my stats I had a lot and then I got the rent mode can't figure out where my spot okay we got we got a big day in this is where to start banking episodes and professional so but not too far in advance don't need me making the good references for Ebola verbal or black plague go all the way back any of them I hope you have fun if you did if you didn't write it right a five star review but you can tell us what you didn't like just don't give us one start is your city because I use the word shady I had that in my other podcast I caused a lot one of them and some guy gave us one start I was like really you in any way to do that if you're our friends that her listen to this that I found out secretly listen to it don't tell me yeah or helps out share this data out there if your new friends we don't know you yet you are you can submit 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I'm an old man mentally I've always been kind of that yeah man I used to hang out what were my best friends five years older than me used to hang out like hotel all older references yeah culture what the Seinfeld cheers references off God and I was like yeah see I thought of affairs yeah I'm an old man to but like you do make me feel young should you complain about is pretty old mannish arthritis that's not funny Ovaltine got a stock no my jitterbug phone doesn't work, go to sleep on my dad's does it is rock and I like know how dumbfounded he just looks at it like he's an old man jitterbug style I don't know what that means this is to go to word to use jitterbug use it it's my go to it's my go to when I'm talking to about old people yeah want to retain I'm sponsored for him to slow down this autopilot honor or camera so when God given you a barn were useless with this thing I don't know I don't how to use it but I do know I do know that it's tax season watch out for liberty tax Statue 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dad like you can sum up breath yeah I'm a divorced dad will know what that means dad that trend I think it's from.co want to say but basically it's a bot that it scans through your yet to input all your accounts so I did with our business credit card okay what it does is at the main hook that got me and was like will look at your your Internet provider deal and will see if we get you better deal oh right planning on about the states and maybe something everybody's doing so they get a cut of the commission if they make a deal right it's it it's like all artificial intelligence stuff it's just a bot and are they negotiating quote unquote up a new deal on whatever because that's all that stuff isn't like a salesman thing it's like these Internet providers or any company they just go we can give a promotion of this if the customer asked for right I love how it's always like all we can do that you totally can do that easily right type it in your little computer there you totally cancel it it's cool I I like this kind of stuff up and focusing on personal finance a lot lately so it's it's helping in that direction words like you're paying a lot on this credit card you may want to think of these options which a lot of people might think is intrusive but I I volunteered to get that can help there's no one called Ernie with FICA not IE but a Y okay but Bert I link it up to my it to link it up to Amazon my Amazon account business account is an account and it will show us if we got worked on a price it can go back and try to get that lower price you get that refund oh if you paid too much on something right we pay for new Meebo camera which we need to do at some point) the price goes down in the next like 60 days and they give a 60 day guarantee it'll hook that up in that's like a bot as well it's like that old Circuit City commercial remember that with a kid brought that you bought the Walkman and then he brought it back in music in this later it was this militantly given the cash yeah and I don't brothers trying to do that it was like now. Now that you even get here ethic the boss what no I did I wrote my puffy 5 miles is pretty dangerous is to present Veria. Like friendly by the city in the 90s were your parents they don't know where I so we'd be getting a little hottie toddy and if you want to close your eyes we getting up pad it daddy it's a sweat equity podcast that was that was good I'll take a shower when that if I gave you a shorter one this thing II couldn't I know you look like you had a rough day I've doing a lot of coding oh my God computer codes are so stupid nothing makes sense really hard to learn on the fly we get that analysis paralysis, then going all really try to make a rule in office or if were working on something like intensely for 45 minutes we take a break and try to talk to the other person yeah the problem is like that's good if you you're not making any progress all I need is a little bit of a little knowledge of progress okay now I can get back into it and it's just that's never ending yet but we had a look back and goes that the best way to do it I know you saying like that's enough to get me godly nose drive me crazy to not get the puzzle figured out the Callaghan opiate addict looking for Vicodin you little bit like okay you know that guys mom got some in his house let's go steal some and you just here to keep your on the mat here on the make mad crickets probably at Circuit City right now yeah well you know it, back to do not what Circuit City is the why I know that's crazy why is it of recognizable brand everything from the 80s and 90s is going to come back because we go all auto that yeah because then people our age are the ones were certain make money and then we can spend that money was twice yummy shed reboots right is like oh this is familiar that's bankable I don't know what Circuit City's and a BS in entity I just I read something on LinkedIn is light Circuit City's using Brandon to come back what if it was a circuit city act like a city they could go visit and visit its glow to circuit its merger inside really on granite right that would be need roller coasters address the people dressed up like no computer chips walk around what was its is RadioShack still around I feel like 10 years ago you like now and now they been around for so long someone told me the way they stood around because I've never seen anybody buy anything from RadioShack since maybe 95 and we are FICA done 10-year-olds right I think they made money off like warranties like that was their jam yeah if you bought something there is gone forever it was always weird like a lot of remote control stuff like for like cars and airplanes and all that stuff which it it should emerge with Spencer's gifts and just become like the Virgin store forever it does have a topic of weird creepy feel to it stuff that they're selling nothing that you really want but you could use it but they saw the website looking at right now pretty awful well I mean as silly as it is these things have brand equity like yeah we were talking about him and I bet people are listening right now they're like yeah our budget right I was around I had my LA gears on is running in their Ellie Geer could make light of any my addressing batteries on was the old joke that every standup told you had something to touch on before you get into the did you wanted productivity stuff oh will I was a saying we could talk about her oh yeah personality questionnaire thing again just because it's not something that we just didn't know and it went away once we started to like talk about it and think about it's like man is so much more to this thing than we realize yet so it's for those that don't know go back you can listen to the episode probably about two months ago Eric and I took the advance personality questionnaire it's basically like an employment assessment test right would say our mentor with co-mentor urges to do it I don't know well he dispenses advice and we take that's true about light on I have more I don't think he and he accepted that role yet but were to calm that for now latching on Sage I don't know what I know he's giving us advice and taken it right he's successful the route we we took it man's foot down and I probably thought about every day since you yeah I mean once we figured out exactly what it was doing in overall what it's doing is teaching you what church telling you what you're good at and what your bad which sounds obvious but when you can start to take what you're good at and put more energy into that instead of worrying about improving something that your personality is not necessarily going to allow you to be good at you know like for us it was administrative things neither of us want to do that could we suck at it and there it right what yeah it so it's like so if your manager are your own of business this is a really good cheat code because it's it's a pretty reliable exam you been around for a long time now might Mike my big beef with it is just because I don't love doing it or have a proclivity for administrative does mean I can't do it right right so I think it's kind of a long term, looking at employee hiring right I might hire might hire someone that sucks that like us at the administrative but they can do it right yeah but I know down the line the third really good a project managing yeah but I'm sure this does two things are related but I don't think you to be good at one without being good at the other probably but yeah it's it's it's definitely something you can use to target specific if you have a very specific job that needs to be done that requires a certain personality trait you can have these results look at them and you'll see somebody who's good at it you know and and we can target them more than another person there's variations of this test there's there's there's another one I'd I just took for fun these recently does 138 questions the one the that a PQ the one were talking about that we took that once 40 right thing was more than that sounds 8080 yeah and then like the first the first 20 were like aptitudes so it was like some basic arithmetic staff were like it was like this persons in line Mary's in line this person's ahead of him this person is behind him where is worst jab yeah you like all right I guess I'll write this out like a falcon for traders and then it has the wrong with writing it out you write it out was it was it timed that one turned the AP Q was time I believe yeah so that stress that always stresses me out because I don't read very well well that's part of the test my reading comprehension was always love songs like I would sweat that out to connect to a minimum of time to read it because I read a lot of stuff without reading the whole thing later everyone's emails if you want to email us at law Atoka works Ellie WTO CO WR Katz or Eric Atoka works TOC owed WORKS.com to get some emails and I get bullet points are nice notes bullet point for us so AP Q it's like you answer is your actual self and a question and you answer as like the best job interview version of you right you answer in a way that you think a job interview were would want them right minutes are right if that makes sense yeah like what what what the biggest brown nose right because I did exactly and that was where we were discussing legal we couldn't we never matched up with the brown nose leaves me I don't think my answers I don't remember honestly we both scored highly independent yeah we have is just good but right now we could use some Soviet teamwork taking taken thumb through it thumps are a bunch of sales profiles at thumbs through a bunch of a bunch of management profiles right right I'm looking at what what was yours like what was your best one I think I know my worst one was I think project-management was like in 19 but it's, like I guess I don't know I don't I don't find myself hating it like I hate admin for sure right client my highest was the need to serve at a 95% yeah which is to make sense yeah it makes sense for somebody like me I'm not exactly driven by money like a more driven to make somebody else happy or you know help out in a way sort of thing that's good it's it really shine the light on these things that you might not even realize about yourself it's tough youth because you have confirmation bias up obviously going into it right I'm stubborn when I get notes about me doing anything so it's tough it was tough for me to cut it bite my tongue and just take will take this test and what the results were back yeah it's weird because I think for both of us humor or creativity like is like a big part of who we are yeah thing is that it doesn't really count for that you know ethic yeah I'm in I can say now what is its intensity drive is is a good way to put the drive is like drive is incentivize right so like I guess no work ethic it doesn't need to be incentivized the drive is like all selfish usually but why are you working hard it's to make yourself feel better in the end right whether you're making money or building at table I believe that's called psychological egoism maybe I don't know how to be will have to look that one up that that I'm pulling out of a psych class from college from like 10 years ago yeah I probably got that wrong definite but it is it is like it's a good Chico I think it gives you if you if you have to if you hire quickly Adam at a higher level I think it's a good way to go okay this person probably better for this long-term yeah this I mean that if you're using it for hiring again use it higher level situation for sure you're not you McDonald's employees aren't necessarily doing this test you will need to now it's like that but for yet for somebody you invest a lot of money and definitely worth 150 bucks yet because I mean that's mean that hiring secret cost that people don't realize I think they just think every office eventually just sucks over time and I think the tech people kinda get it in a way I don't like the ping-pong tables and ship but I like that they are good about the psychology of making good work environment what's the most efficient what's the best flex hours or you know you can have as many days off as you want as long as you get work done I think you're seeing a lot more of that stuff so I think a lot more of this is due to be commonplace going forward even though this is 100-year-old tester some of that right will I mean it's getting easier to quantify things that in the past have not been quantifiable you know like your personality or whatever you and those been around for hundred years but something you will come along you know I don't know what they do at Google were phone companies whatever you read Google questions now David will do that maybe next pod that those questions are like there's no right answer kind of thing is how you figure figuring it out eight those are difficult my wife is tell me some of them when she had my job interview she's like I've heard these other guys like cheating yeah you know you know how to answer this if she's doing for fun but I guess if you're proactively doing for fun you're not ready ready to win score high on the nerd right scale, yeah your near my boo love you and are it so I I was hit you up on Friday because I was like oh I didn't even look through every one of these job titles and the highest when I had was what we were looking to move her mentor is scared straight on who we are basically and it was that thing of like I think we skipped one and I don't know if it's on purpose or if it was a or if if it just was a skeptic is going really quick but my highest score was 88 with the dynamic CEO yeah and I got a lot of stuff works like I'm a best fit for ops and I was like yeah I mean okay yeah I get it I get it's one of the center it's hard to take that and go I yeah sure right you can't just be a CEO couldn't do the other jobs first my conservative Seo score was 69 and then conservative that high six never the yet we didn't even realize we first talked about this the different things that it it rate you want in terms of it'll it'll break down what kind of different managers there are and how you would work as that sort of manager I knew got really bummed because you thought you scored so vanilla light will I scored low basically I should be homeless that I shouldn't have a job there's nothing this like that's not true at all you got bunkers of the crosshairs right there for the four quadrants right expressive communicator direct driver whatever they are with us to more but yeah I mean you got Scott I know what were going with this in it then in the middle you're just kind of a good your good average of all of those which is good right that's a good and it's accurate to I would consider myself adaptable I think that's the biggest thing for digital services in consulting by far can you come in learn it on the fly and learn to work with people to that you don't know that well yeah become fast friends with them and figure out how to extract what you need from them yeah I me for what I'm doing now is it's perfect because I'm sit here googling stuff every day that I have no idea how to do it until I figured out right in adapting and that should get it gets easier to to figure out how to find stuff because you proactively go when you're looking up something else you might find an answer that to something you may need in the future kind of thing yeah and you'll start checking them off because it just saves you so much time speaking saving time do you have anything more on the snow by letting people should take something like this one of these tests I'm sure there's a free version out there of something something close to this it's not were not completely off-topic with this because you can take the time to take this test and streamline either yourself or you know what you're doing or if you're hiring somebody can streamline that way so it all comes together a lot of the stuff you need to take time in the beginning to sort it out and then it'll help your life later on if listeners to have taken this test tell us what you got what you got back in what you do actually doing now like I did that become interested yet for sure what were doing Facebook group thing we need to start engaging little bit more I think that be fun I want to engage with the listeners I did this being an interactive show eventually would be I think out be something that so interesting to cut be able to because will talk to everybody if it's a good question you know yeah that's a weird thing about podcasts is not a lot of interactive with listener podcasts it's a lot of you could talk that and then maybe you sent something and then the next show they're talking about a sort of thing but we need to think about that yeah I mean I would love a slack group is there there are I know I push like a lot but there's a lot of slack like groups that are just for chatting about stuff like this yeah so maybe one day that but right now Facebook groups is easiest because we can just add all her friends know once if we want working to get you you can't room from then pages may be dying a little bit so I think I talked to a bunch of people I was in the is a pirate in what Tempest, Mardi Gras code Gasparilla and you know what's funny is I talked to probably three people individually that like I listen to every episode what you never told me that all your friends, so I would tell them tell your friends and all helps we've got some good inertia we can't talk about it with the show but some stuff that may happen that's big or may take us a lot of sweat equity in a couple years to yeah he's the titular yes phrase in their to get to that next level so we could get it soon with a little oomph for me all you want to know the chief code rate review five-star write funny but funny one it will read it I look like that your name me I look like Nicolas Cage and Conair like you can write that do it my job I look like I might Joe Pesci after he gets his hair blown off in a blowtorch and Malone nice yeah, the patchy yeah or Michael Stipe when he had days the DM is run all well I wasn't doing insults for you so love man it's all love so ticket I got to hug the Stanley Cup and then I yell talk to people wire which is so drug like thank you for thank you for like listen that's awesome but what you tell me where doesn't tell other people like us like rambling so let's get into this new little list of the productivity stuff okay make work life little bit easier you been working with Zap here yeah that's a good one that beer connects different apps that don't normally connect so go on their Z API AER.com they have a whole list of I haven't come across an app that I can't find on there that like in need 500 yeah in the directory right all the big guys yet it acts as a if this happens then do this sort of thing so it will connect your different accounts like we have a forms account that we use cold cognitive forms and Chuck are due in the you can connect when somebody submits a form middle go through that beer and then it'll go to another for example sales lead company forward bore everybody look to set the cell on this is how much of your time on this blue marble do you want to spend doing duplicate of ship that's all I got about half that's why get back to the like just do it a little take time in the beginning and then it will be streamlined later on yeah don't you can't automate everything in your life for your business what you can do a lot of stuff that's like okay forms are a big one for us so if you have a website it's like whatever your intake form is whatever you just signed someone and they gotta fill some out anything that has some kind of interaction were you don't need to be there right the customer client can fill it out on their own I called Dana routing I don't know if that's right long-term sense but they fill out the form and instead of it just be in the form that it all that data goes to you can take it and integrate it with like your email system like MailChimp right so to pull that email out and now it's going to this form that you needed this intake form and MailChimp and it's going to snow the phone numbers going over your CRM like salesforce or write pipe drive we use as a sales and marketing CRM so my thing about this is twofold with the forms on on websites a big on these because a people that use paper forms just the flicking convoluted all right you printed out you signed a list to send it back it's yet your Creole else is half and others and in the ADD era like if you don't get them right then on the phone doesn't work on the phone like it's good it slows you down many of the double back yeah her hatred for admin actually helps with this so or the other part is less human error yet we had a lot of law firms that do paper intake forms and then there fill them out and like you can't be the person tailoring the left yeah like talk yet 09 pages in it and then transcribing it to so it was error there are two Yep it mean anything that is tedious and small you can almost always find a way to streamline an online can't streamline playing with your kids but not yet up that's you know well we get that a RVR so zap your it's you make zaps and there like you can make a recipe yeah I think they call respite or to triggers I believe so just yeah it's it's it's that programming language if I do this this will happen right so zappers more business associated some people like to do a lot of the Google's G sweet stuff connects with all that stuff you it it's just one of the century like if you're frustrated by like administrative staff this is kind of the best thing for it wheat we should be utilizing a little bit more on the communication so if someone comments on any social media we should have is that the taking slideshow yeah I mean we do for clients but notes one of the things where we should be utilizing slackers or communication hope for all these things, right and then you have I have TTT and that's gonna work and life stuff stands for if this then that yeah that one has an app on iOS I don't think Zappa has a nap early which Dixon shouldn't be a big deal but Connie is as I do a lot of that I have TTT stuff like kinda like the kids are font to sleep but I can't get up yeah so I can like about have my phone on me for 20 minutes I'll try to do something productive and so like I have the Phillips smart home stuff yeah so if the fire goes off our smoke detectors go off those those hues will turn red which is like little stuff like that you can do yeah super handy I need to do it I have one set up that stupid home every screenshot I take it'll back it up over Evernote and notebook so it's nice to cousins like my wife lost her phone and didn't save everything and even if you your good about saving stuff you know sometimes it just hasn't backed up yet yeah and you take a picture you got kids pictures and stuff and I don't know it's it's a good thing to have backup systems like that coverage will they do of the iCloud so give it sometimes doesn't sink as you decide my steps to full of like old-school porn I download all my yeah Brighton does a lot of video lot of hard drives around out to be surprises VHS is they don't they don't compress it they the pink ones especially rim of the pink cassette die never meet either on me neither a VHS I had good parents who about what I watch so I didn't ever get access to that always went to the parent the kids that had should he parents house they always have the cool Lego cards and like yes it does let you just do whatever you want only that helmet to do nunchuck fights all day okay just don't bother me yes so the real thing wish I could get there mentally rewatch glory your nine years old the outside the school glory sounds nice using Lori know it's pretty pretty gruesome Who's Who stars and that Dinsdale Mike 90s movie about Civil War swimming Denzel Washington yeah but it didn't cells are there exactly so I would say zap your the take away from this episode should be like go check it out we don't work for zap your eye if TTT were trim or Ernie or Asher's strategies that does the personality quiz were just trying to get stuff right yet check out a mean if you are starting a business and you had a bunch of different apps you wanted to play with go to zap your first and see what because if you're going to if your goal between one app or another that to the basically the same thing check it out on here check out the integrations that has an upbeat zap your integrations but just see if it's compatible and then choose add that into your your line of thinking yeah I do that I do that was slack if it if it purely integrates the slack it's like a reverse engineering yet okay we need a we need a cloud accounting software like I don't know should be used fresh books let's see if it integrates only to slack Delphic exactly or we know we need a project manager I did I I trimmed it down to the ones that already integrate with slack because that evolve so much stuff going back and forth I didn't want to have happier in their so it was, that thing but we can use after your put it in their to like it like be monkey in the middle and cut a pull out stuff as well yet for coverage but like we chose Reich and I haven't learned it's easy to learn is to take the time to do it got it diners on the one that's the problem Rose internally funded better one will wonder this is great for tasks I was using is and do but once it blew up once I didn't once I didn't stay on it for like a week it was so hard to read it was so hard to regroup everything really yeah I just the way that at work because it was like for some reason it kept everything you did in their and I was like I had to like chat message the guys is like and we cannot reset this how do I do this like a charts blow it up start over Leica we keep it all and then I had it for another couple months of sitting there and subscription land in trim, cut it off, and I hate to use this she's is a lot actual these for for the listeners but like all this stuff is like yeah you got it's like you want to be healthy the first two months going over the flock and suck right you want to be more productive and streamlined ship it's going to be like a couple nights of just sitting down and trying to hammer out like sitting there watching YouTube videos to save you time later yeah we call the ski slope of hours work more pitching hours were like a retainer it was a huge ski slope and then it kind of peters out right because of all or all the most the hours are dedicated in the beginning to on sort of organizational things yet we want to learn the client when on boredom and then we got a set you up and it's a lot of set up work and then fades out same thing with almost everything everything you do in life is like that right yet you set it up in the beginning your you're better off I don't know if you have a hankering to bow hunt like I do but I know it's going to suck really bad what does it have to suck and was in suck about it I just cannot be very good and somehow to put a lot more time into it when I really get into it yet because still it cannot suck and you can still be bad at it you know yeah yeah I'm in special your first time you go out with a positive attitude what was your optimism score on the test 7% 77% my was 95 what she truly is the highest thing I had on there so between the two of us we cut aïoli I feel like I I had to have a contrarian kind of mindset when I take about 10 and I was like I thought I was optimistic that what was surprising to me I think there's like questions like do our people born bad or do they become bad or some like that or they inherent our people are inherently good yes like old philosophical questions yeah but I swore I answered it that they are inherently good maybe it makes with maybe that's what got you to seven you got that one was for that one question so you got anything else anything on your mind now not really we got a heart out anyway as I got I got a leave in two minutes oh yeah yeah time flies I hope this helps so let's let's talk later let's engage on the internets hit us up you can email us for other stuff if you want work in guest requests a lot not really sure what to do with those consume I'll be like all right let's not send up there like can't do that day I know what we were doing why you just me some dates yeah exactly I did the best was I had a PR PR company and one of like the wraps found this podcast and she was like oh we have all female CEOs the great I got a get I get to get them back on but like she was awesome because you just like boom let's have all five of them they will have five clients was a deal but yeah let's get all five of them in interviews like yeah yeah so will get will get them back on if you want to go back in the archives you can check those episodes out really interesting stuff from each one of those CEOs and I think anything else rate review all that good stuff and you know will do better next time maybe maybe let's let's get this champions: hey okay go out and kick ass today everyone you can help you within the some positive guys can do it I believe in the doughboys cash I believe in you it's time to be productive this time to streamline so to put that hard work that hustle and that's what equity okay get some

Munjal Shah is co-founder and CEO of Health IQ. Health IQ uses science and big data to provide special rate insurance for health conscious people such as marathoners, triathletes, vegans, cyclists, and more. Prior to Health IQ, Munjal was co-founder & CEO of Like.com (computer vision/machine learning company sold to Google) & co-founder & CEO of Andale (eventually sold to Alibaba). He is an advisor/investor in: Rocketfuel (NASDAQ: Fuel), Meebo (sold to Google), Swell (Sold to Apple), Blindsight (Sold to Amazon), Lift Labs (Sold to Google), Kabam, TaskRabbit, Pubmatic, InterAxon, uBiome, Counsyl, Canvas Medical, PatientPing, and more. Munjal has a Masters in CS from Stanford and a Bachelors in CS from UCSD. JJ Flizanes is an Empowerment Strategist and the host of several podcast shows including Fit 2 Love and Spirit, Purpose & Energy. She is the Director of Invisible Fitness, an Amazon best-selling author of Fit 2 Love: How to Get Physically, Emotionally, and Spiritually Fit to Attract the Love of Your Life, and author of Knack Absolute Abs: Routines for a Fit and Firm Core. She was named Best Personal Trainer in Los Angeles for 2007 by Elite Traveler Magazine. JJ has been featured in many national magazines, including Shape, Fitness, Muscle and Fitness HERS, Elegant Bride, and Women’s Health as well as appeared on NBC, CBS, Fox 11, the CW and KTLA. Her newest book, The Invisible Fitness Formula: 5 Secrets to Release Weight and End Body Shame debuted at #2 on the Amazon Best Seller List for Women’s Health and #2 as a Hot New Release on May 18th 2017.

Munjal Shah is co-founder and CEO of Health IQ. Health IQ uses science and big data to provide special rate insurance for health conscious people such as marathoners, triathletes, vegans, cyclists, and more. Prior to Health IQ, Munjal was co-founder & CEO of Like.com (computer vision/machine learning company sold to Google) & co-founder & CEO of Andale (eventually sold to Alibaba). He is an advisor/investor in: Rocketfuel (NASDAQ: Fuel), Meebo (sold to Google), Swell (Sold to Apple), Blindsight (Sold to Amazon), Lift Labs (Sold to Google), Kabam, TaskRabbit, Pubmatic, InterAxon, uBiome, Counsyl, Canvas Medical, PatientPing, and more. Munjal has a Masters in CS from Stanford and a Bachelors in CS from UCSD. JJ Flizanes is an Empowerment Strategist and the host of several podcast shows including Fit 2 Love and Spirit, Purpose & Energy. She is the Director of Invisible Fitness, an Amazon best-selling author of Fit 2 Love: How to Get Physically, Emotionally, and Spiritually Fit to Attract the Love of Your Life, and author of Knack Absolute Abs: Routines for a Fit and Firm Core. She was named Best Personal Trainer in Los Angeles for 2007 by Elite Traveler Magazine. JJ has been featured in many national magazines, including Shape, Fitness, Muscle and Fitness HERS, Elegant Bride, and Women’s Health as well as appeared on NBC, CBS, Fox 11, the CW and KTLA. Her newest book, The Invisible Fitness Formula: 5 Secrets to Release Weight and End Body Shame debuted at #2 on the Amazon Best Seller List for Women’s Health and #2 as a Hot New Release on May 18th 2017.

Munjal Shah is co-founder and CEO of Health IQ. Health IQ uses science and big data to provide special rate insurance for health conscious people such as marathoners, triathletes, vegans, cyclists, and more. Prior to Health IQ, Munjal was co-founder & CEO of Like.com (computer vision/machine learning company sold to Google) & co-founder & CEO of Andale (eventually sold to Alibaba). He is an advisor/investor in: Rocketfuel (NASDAQ: Fuel), Meebo (sold to Google), Swell (Sold to Apple), Blindsight (Sold to Amazon), Lift Labs (Sold to Google), Kabam, TaskRabbit, Pubmatic, InterAxon, uBiome, Counsyl, Canvas Medical, PatientPing, and more. Munjal has a Masters in CS from Stanford and a Bachelors in CS from UCSD. JJ Flizanes is an Empowerment Strategist and the host of several podcast shows including Fit 2 Love and Spirit, Purpose & Energy. She is the Director of Invisible Fitness, an Amazon best-selling author of Fit 2 Love: How to Get Physically, Emotionally, and Spiritually Fit to Attract the Love of Your Life, and author of Knack Absolute Abs: Routines for a Fit and Firm Core. She was named Best Personal Trainer in Los Angeles for 2007 by Elite Traveler Magazine. JJ has been featured in many national magazines, including Shape, Fitness, Muscle and Fitness HERS, Elegant Bride, and Women’s Health as well as appeared on NBC, CBS, Fox 11, the CW and KTLA. Her newest book, The Invisible Fitness Formula: 5 Secrets to Release Weight and End Body Shame debuted at #2 on the Amazon Best Seller List for Women’s Health and #2 as a Hot New Release on May 18th 2017.

Munjal Shah is co-founder and CEO of Health IQ. Health IQ uses science and big data to provide special rate insurance for health conscious people such as marathoners, triathletes, vegans, cyclists, and more. Prior to Health IQ, Munjal was co-founder & CEO of Like.com (computer vision/machine learning company sold to Google) & co-founder & CEO of Andale (eventually sold to Alibaba). He is an advisor/investor in: Rocketfuel (NASDAQ: Fuel), Meebo (sold to Google), Swell (Sold to Apple), Blindsight (Sold to Amazon), Lift Labs (Sold to Google), Kabam, TaskRabbit, Pubmatic, InterAxon, uBiome, Counsyl, Canvas Medical, PatientPing, and more. Munjal has a Masters in CS from Stanford and a Bachelors in CS from UCSD. JJ Flizanes is an Empowerment Strategist and the host of several podcast shows including Fit 2 Love and Spirit, Purpose & Energy. She is the Director of Invisible Fitness, an Amazon best-selling author of Fit 2 Love: How to Get Physically, Emotionally, and Spiritually Fit to Attract the Love of Your Life, and author of Knack Absolute Abs: Routines for a Fit and Firm Core. She was named Best Personal Trainer in Los Angeles for 2007 by Elite Traveler Magazine. JJ has been featured in many national magazines, including Shape, Fitness, Muscle and Fitness HERS, Elegant Bride, and Women’s Health as well as appeared on NBC, CBS, Fox 11, the CW and KTLA. Her newest book, The Invisible Fitness Formula: 5 Secrets to Release Weight and End Body Shame debuted at #2 on the Amazon Best Seller List for Women’s Health and #2 as a Hot New Release on May 18th 2017.

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Sweat Equity listeners save $50 when they sign up using the special link TryGrasshopper.com/sweat    Dragon Dictate Transcription Your library life we live we are alive that's that's what I was talking to my how you feeling Eric I'm getting educators along yeah well man that all changes yeah I said before off Mike I unabashedly love fall out boy cure number 33-year-old man three great fumes you three yeah I count them as they come in but we got Joe Clay here how many cubes if you have any encryptions yeah this is how you intervene in but I don't have an Excel sheet relevant for your first question but Serbia tough interview okay you don't have an Excel sheet that 12 I don't know what you're doing here honestly our producer since it is up that's me okay were to talk some graphic design some animation workbench.tv is your website and that passion project to teach young ends how to do stuff let's do our sponsor for this podcast sweat equity pragmatic realistic business advice hustle interviews sometimes Eric and I should ship sometime noises Damien Baltasar 28 monkeys durable direction if you're watching a video which is on YouTube Facebook origin of just listening you'll just hear that sultry voice limb area yeah because once bona fide run iTunes prion pod bailed other things that just pull pull that audio automatically but for the demographic yeah it keeps its two white we had had a mess it up a little bit developed a Relevant hammer yes they were there Chuck Cameron so let's do our sponsors Grasshopper phones you got business right Joe is so business phone lines how may people you call and you're like is this the bizarre house number or is this there just their cell phone, never misses a rigid self as noted tell yet but a lot of people need to act bigger than they are need act mortgage and especially people doing startups you noticed you need to act professional that's what you need a second phone line how does knowing how to answer the phone I answer hello when I answer my phone if I have a business plan when will I felt myself some angry so grasshoppers and app you can have in your phone and it will give you different kind of screen so you know it's that that still your Verizon or AT&T line or whatever personal line is and it's a scalable phone option it's the entrepreneurs phone line our listeners get 50 bucks off if they use the link and will put this in the episode description it's a tried grasshopper.com/sweat try Grasshopper.com/sweat like he's sweat get nasty real sultry and he got to come up with a better example go for it boy right now my only other one they brought us wet so what nuts where the only two I got off top my head but off camera but not sweat and fumes really taking this good time an area I national business and let's get Eric's favorite part we got to get it officially started God Almighty that's how you officially start the podcast I like old-school radio call-in that start every program with your your call into signed like that much like if you go on workbenches YouTube channel you've got I see the thumbnails have your branding on everything in a similar fashion it's the same thing it just irritates it because it's I let her do it to get you ramped up yeah get me fired alive and have seen he is always good it's a it's a miracle it's a little cheesy it's legit oh yeah it's cheesy for sure it's like a old it's it we soon football it's an old it's an old missing Ole Miss football that they have the hottie toddy I don't I don't know what it means it was in our fraternity we had some kind of chant like that just my opinion on its pleasant change yeah I know I'm not hoping or if anything all those reasons are just making it better for pay out I'll switch if I can find some better just like we talk about writing copy or brand name like companies and name a lot of friends and stuff I got a lady you got me at my jokes in the room it's a 7/10 you gotta beat it in the in the writers room what's going on I'm glad you're on the podcast it's a little hectic throw out this you that everything is throw out all your your handles for for the people Instagram all that stuff usually workbench TV I think on Instagram were no twitters workbench_TV because there's some weird Canadian like workbench DIY program that's got that yet and when you search for the workbench are getting a lot of workbench tutorials how to make a workbench, then silly little dancer putting my graphic designer put in animation tutorial now you want tutorial though it is graphic design animation motion okay it's want to clarify everything Eric did a lot of research before names I told him I intentionally don't do research so I can ask the questions of people when we actually do that on purpose because with Alexa just because he's lazy we will follow me, shut it gave me hope it can be both work well for both suit and tell me about a wide you started what is it you know give me the who what when where why all that well first I was having, slow year click two years ago my main business builder party so would you like graphics animation production all the stuff and so I was like you know it is time to come to share some of my knowledge the people himself I wanted to like a long time ago there's like some people to restart noun is like a man I could do that you know you have and just at the time is like I didn't have the time to do it and that just wasn't the right time I guess for it and there's all this like beginner stuff that didn't exist when I'd started so, what I wanted to do but then all of the market, filled up and do that so I figured I just start to make more advanced tutorials that for the stuff that I'd want to see that was another interesting it's like the Tyco's telling Damien something about they should be doing a podcast similar to this is nothing like two years ago I was telling yeah more as a recruiting tool I think to get younger people to follow over and then you can maybe you develop a relationship with some of these people that are into it but that's that's interesting how that kind of parallel thinking happened and were not even what 7 miles away were your in South Tampa right will assimilate no head of the murder of the murder capital your my hood yeah that's what I was just pitching about trying to sell our house and buy a new one contingent on a stone house that serial killer just the light went on your day 35 grand on the house price so that you will yeah I mean obviously it sucks but it's also kind of interesting way it's like here like Ford motors the news and like that's like not even a weekend in Chicago I'll try to keep a rant pretty quick but but I did journalism this twofold why this was a disaster of an investigation a the the churlish function should be they should be ashamed of themselves they should be flocking there should be some kind of punishment for them for sensationalizing this made it five times worse than it needed to be they called a serial killer before it is technically a serial killer I think I need is a take three I think thickly three I think I got back I go with the major league and the hum of the the speech is all going okay right three that's a winning streak or a heart attack that's my role at least and it was just at when they had to kills it was just a bus stop that was similar that was it to so you really move around MO yet there's no end there is no like he left the pentagram is yet you have all the fun puzzles and things that they normally leave around for the cops just to do that's a sociopath I bet he was on pipette there's some pharmaceutical involvement I think I bet opiates because that does change your brain chemistry anyway were getting down to a sloppy road the other part of that is PR will this all will come back and into the fold PR date the Police Department dictated this message so poorly that they just kept leaving it open ended like they wanted to write a TV show on it like they were like the truth either this guy on video he's he's either doing a job he's either Jazzercise and through the neighborhood like gave this like ridiculous in areas like or use a similar white skin is like why did you do press conference of this like this makes no sense real quick I just think that your audience is probably China figure at this moment how drugs opiates and graphic design are all gonna come back together that's the magic of me all dovetail back because my eyebrow went straight up like Dragon like what good your voice of the people today that so as to do dictating your message right I think chosen a good job of that type I went through and all I went back in your catalog before he started his I want to see what it looked like in the beginning you channel the reason we start talking is like you did a humble pride post like hey we get 10,000 subscribers on site ownership I his armor looking out a while ago and knows that this is really cool I on the fly have to do a lot of graphic design stuff like smaller stuff so I can send it to a good designer like and you are Damien really do it I'll get the concept down but sometimes I said I need tutorials and you can burn funk and hours trying to find like a good stuff and know it's learning how to do some more reading about earlier today the just how to take a logo make a white me like I have is like I was trying to do this for a while and then I looked it was like a minute video as I just change that utilized the site that is it in Photoshop okay media that's what is yeah said you'll never make it at the end. But so it dovetails back is your your your creating a brand through this on a passion project not too dissimilar from what were trying to do with this podcast a little bit were you know we don't know what's in a come of it we'd like should initiate and talk a little business gazettes mainly were any if I went to a dinner party the conversation would somehow get over there anyway which my wife hates but somehow yet your business is life that will mean it's in a lot of it's a small medium business that's life no for a lot of business owner Damien over there look it's it consumes everything his wife's business owner to it's it's a lot in your conversation because sometimes you can come and go help oh you should be doing this this and this is his wife the bad stylus jingo oh you should do you with the shellac nails you should get some Moroccan oil put in the hair yeah I know my hair stuff good her words meant that I was in the salon industry man I know about you want to start slowing off talking I'll rip that ship how did I know price per square foot I know any chairs you need I know the commission rates all that ship you should put a runway in their red carpet so after they're done you look in your eye right now I'm excited to start here decided what that Ceará will try to record the safety and this is interprofessional now we know as I was attempting Internet database yet and it's bad love aggregates artifacting and freezing so there sometimes at your max and drumming out for the lands headroom the show for everybody who is not born after 1990 something to do that hacked into the TV station was that no Max Headroom is I don't know what it is like the Nobel Pepsi commercial guy like accent room that was that roof that yeah they did there was something that that you guys look like Chicago yes somebody like contacting the local TV stand here but there was a mass I got SSRI so yes you got pretty much right there looks okay on the prowl for knowing that random reason hello good underwriters distributes up parcels of the will they also admit Noblesville spoofed it in back to the future when the Ronald Reagan got up and like I run away and they did the whole little thing when we first goes into the future Café I to retro Café yeah, some random kid in there I think assault not too long ago the thing with Elijah when Elijah wasn't out yet and had the arcade ghetto yeah we're having your hands yeah that's the fun part I like watching old movies over again is really out hey that's that guy that I know forgot about. He made it will happen the guy next to him that he didn't suck Kirsten Dunst and Jumanji the day about 10 years whatever it is we know the old and the kanji will swear to say we'll just see the new one they just shrug her down I fulfill I will was cheaper to buy on Amazon for the kids want the original data bungee things like how I got it is what I like a lot in it yeah yeah whatever is not to give up because while it is when the like where's the rock I heard one of the Kevin Hart I heard it's really good actually it is is it you saw kids note no need for kids to watch but herself has caring community, is that redhead from a Doctor Who and also plays Gomorrah and battles of cardiology or some parties I guess she's the blue haired blue chick in guarding the value of the really like the sister nebula sorry nebulae yeah yeah that's it that's conflicted Gavin, hot redhead I'm not into redhead sorry I decide not to ginger kinda guy no fence so my thing, I'm too pale or too dark something about and I hear you if you talk too much so that's what character can't say to the dark why is it just to play it safe I say to paling is that you Darnell you can't that's legal is able to kill I thought this is not telling you I know what I find my wiener gets a Boner for certain things like open you up here right this is not a PC show by any means so and I'm not anything terrible I don't say I'm hating anybody just the wiener wants with the wind once it's okay can you be more click here if you're in the DVD AA like that's your yesterday Outlook might might my wife is ill or find me trying to double in my wife is her, she's like some light bright and damn near white so I don't know what I thought about her hellos and then some. BII can't learn all these acronyms and what you're talking about is a real test for one and were shoehorning here to talk about Dixon balls for 15 minutes now that I thought of it like that with you Dick and balls that he instinctively meals back-and-forth that we will try to edit this psychologist Dick and balls in business that duplicates the goal and maybe a spinoff it works for me like member shoehorning this Internet and a very hectic day Eric's a little stressed as a my is finding serenity that's my nonstress time yeah this is the fight this is gone silly topics yeah that's what we have yoga mats and ship over there and I want to get a funky punching bag thank you we can hang one thing let me think yes anymore Justice just bagged 30 seconds just if I can punch something I thought I think it be cathartic to a definite yes drive-by punch what you got all that stuff is just one Pam okay I feel better now that you like a speed bag and it was good closer it got hit on a nice thought of that those are so noisy it's true that these guys next to a city record will I can hear light them on a conference call behind us so it's you know the walls are thin already use that glass to the wall technique Yahoo that there can hear everything I just take a ceiling tile and Dragon leave eight trying to take all day son all day will do that with this I I have a couple pointers like that that it wrote down Wells Fargo not currently sponsored by Dragon dictate I'm in love Dragon dictate I've got no qualms about it there not a sponsor we just want to give out good things that are good you know good things that are good yeah it makes a wedding but it works good with use mu.com is reporting stuff that's a good thing that's good man log got all his own pilot that I write you down for the next day you really think so don't worry I will be in the show notes in the blog post I forget to put up Jonah 2 yeah I know one thing when asked about we just a tinfoil hat podcast which is conspiracy theory podcast Assam Tripoli the Gotland listeners but also like crazy listeners and Eric and I've been looking through the comments independent of each other talking about it we both went through all floors and ice just got forward one night start answering a bunch of find him and I was looking at yours and theirs so me people whining about like this is to know can you slow it down it's like beachfront composite like pause the video it's in the video tutorial positive actually had some people tell me before like a long time and I like one commenter lowers like that that YouTube is a feature really slow down the video I was disabled I do have speed summary three was likely a watch of it is only capturing the mounding of native English speakers ligaments address you can write something like the next slick person that said that to me obviously just like that we could watch and we have to be you podcast it has to be nobody sounds like I do not accident a lot like that but no pill what I'm I'm talking more one I hope yeah what have is that there was a loud ITS wrong how might this pleases inkwell is that purple drink what's the weirdest thing that's come out of you doing this you been doing for two years passion project side project kinda like I am guessing it's similar because we did this because it's like I got some to say about I got all this information I feel like and I like I like giving advice to people that don't ask for credit but I also like interviewing people right like heaven old buddies come in industries initiate what's what's we're think about it comments or weird messages are you know any that I think that's interesting that you come around the world people are using it which is I saw you had some kind of French translation may be on one of them oh that there was a guy that had done it to tour… Were Willie did it before I did I didn't know existed some bills told me about it so was in French so thankfully had taken some French I was able to figure out what he did 09 there's a better version of something I did so I incorporate that into the download for no I think that's cool I mean we talk about you know a lot of the stuff are doing like, Jesus did like the universal language or saying anything so work or start to think of everything in the context of life right how can we make a little bit more global it's not a much more effort you know but you're at your tutorials you don't really need the audio right sometimes you do but it's harder I'd say probably only because I don't do step-by-step so I can escape a lot of things if you're not in aftereffects user like like a beginner's like I really get all of the things I'm doing usually yeah but in its and is a narrow audience on yeah if you're if you're advanced enough you could probably pick up some stuff sometimes I don't really explain what things are exactly like a minute settings guide I hate when people just while circular all the time I get like reels from people or whatever different ways that worked and it's like okay like I copied a tutorial like I did this like he doesn't know what he is doing disease is not taking the thing in advancing it is just taking something with wheels did in presenting that it in a different way that the zoning assigned something so everybody have all like this you guys have to collaborate so much with other video production companies animation Studios whatever so you when you're getting a file all the default settings are all wacky or they have a way of doing stuff isn't notices its world people present in the work like the stuff that I see from people like you can pick out if you've seen like there's a huge guide video copilot Andrew Kramer he does like these just crazy tutorials only in you see his stuff and people real-time like this is this likely presented to like it is my work on it no that's not yours you know they are doing the tutorial and then think about it and what the rent because they technically did it place I used to work at where the creative director was asking us I mean this happens everywhere I've seen other people tell the same story but basically Craig Dir. comes in is okay we just think of these these people you looking to hire somebody and then it's like well that's an inter-grammar tutorial so and it soon as that happened in the in the Place I was at initially took the DVD's of that long ago of the computer and just throw trash like that is immediately is like no well he sent whelming to the Google reversed something searched I know that was another I know that prevalent like I figured like I figured like the stand-up comedy community were like if you steal jokes basically what that like a child will not exactly stolen like it's like if somebody well I mean I guess in common it's a little different because in comedy the punch line is always the portal and there's not really like however you'd tell it it changing what it's knowing that it's it's it's a very similar because you can have a premise right that is only unique to that person right that's how a lot of these guys get caught one thing is what people think is that they can go off and tell the joke differently and that that's a different thing right but so it is the same but I'm saying it's same and different yeah and calmly they get way more like shut down on doing and in our world it's more like older, did something a little different than that you know it's it's knock down yeah little bit it's all because you have to you your iterations count and yours were czars are just like you just building to something where there are whiffs of tartar comics you know you you're working on a bit to make it tight where is Joel's final thing if you like the graphic designer for lack of a better term like graphic design community they they like seeing the iterations in the process allow the touch her right the flip if I can chime in one of the main thing especially if the just a little advice anybody out there who is doing things that they know they have Andrew Kramer or whatever other tutorials out there you're more than welcome to take that material learned from it do it and then do something as simple as go and shoot your own footage and do the same affect on your own footage and lease that shows that you an instant how to apply the effect and I think that that's when the main things that I specimen graphic designers come and play it's almost similar as someone you know what happens in music and as you have is a lot of industry people in music and she liked it might be McNally actually got like five samples and three loops that already came with the package you didn't really create anything unique you may have rearranged a slightly different but yet totally understand what that means is mean and that's and it's a it happens most special and new budding graphic artist they they that's their education they know they get it from from online and they start hot expand upon and I think that's one of the bigger things that I think on that it's overlooked even Andrew Kramer and yourselves on strong workbench always pushing people to go I go take this and apply to your project at least let me see it in an application as opposed to just being quite literally it's the exact same effect that's partly to why I'll get some complaints were once lowered some is like okay you show me from the beginning or what did you do for this waiver unless a click of a really important setting American go often and say yeah okay the setting is 50 for this in 20 for that because then you're not learning how to use it and the point is to take what I make and expand upon it that's kind like us to watch tutorials nowadays like some else comes up something interesting even if it's something I know like a lot of times if I have some down time I watch it because sometimes I'll pick up a little piece of something that they didn't like I didn't even do that were in a like whatever like because even if you're the meekest person you know you still have some no insight in the shirt or something sure no I died I think that's what YouTube is really great for is I that we learn we have to use all the time because it's stay here will they know and we handle so many different services you know so it's like it's yes there is regular green fire you didn't know like you know what you would've heard outside of work and stuff like your at your house like oh okay this like peace in my toilet broke what do I do to fix that and some is like hey here's this exact model of toilet this is the handle that nicotine elixirs like we manage the stuff that we may sketch were very proud about that we didn't put much behind it but we made a sketch like how to be a man sketch toilet because we grew up in this era were like were not handy and definitely and almost embarrassingly have to look up how like how to properly spell your dad or something will you try it first and you break everything and then go back how to feel that you were slightly taken apart and you break the thing that you need you like oh now I know how this works but it's broken every time and then yeah wife pitches at you in this like an okay I won't buy a new one but liked on the figure this out (about what does it mean Adobe After Effects seems like it's like limitless units potential for manipulation sort of thing and Eric actually Eric's videoconference my ex-wife just to give an ex-wife really don't have fever and ex-wife chose man I got Jesus Christ lately ever life will relive IK wow not look I was looking at your site Joe and I looked at the blog and it was like literally the first sentence I'm lost I can't like I thought about looking in the video graphic design stuff and then it was like five minutes and I was like no I can't do this is this is a lament different there there are some simple stuff that that last post is actually kind of comforted okay no known stones pretty computer at a time on number format yeah things okay okay looks really because for some reason I don't know why saw a lot of stuff I do like programming related and as I used to do some of that and what's what's annoyed me about aftereffect sometimes there sometimes like functions in it that you need that you don't have the better like a single function in another language like number format like PHP which is that some bad a lot of stuff in it's like number format this number you go in it is outlining a number with buildings in it yet although Prelude met here you'd like at least as far as I know maybe it's in there somewhere I don't know but like I had actually reverse engineer how to build that junction was on St. like even you you're making these videos you know what you're doing and you have to go reverse engineer Samuel sometimes I have to learn stuff and some you know like other times there's people way smarter than me that figure out things to yeah yeah problem-solving at the end of the day it's it it's really a similar process am sure to for figuring out any difficult process problem whatever that's why life like trying to do stuff that's outside my zone to help that problem so as as you grow to yeah because it all go okay watching this tutorial on how to do grout for my tile actually what subconsciously helps me figure out how to use software in reverse engineer from there or apply I need that grout fresh fresh and flush against the tile just like we need this design to be flush just you know for whatever reason it will help me contextualize a lot and want to learn it as a man you'll throw that info out as soon as you can know God yes now I grab you guys especially to some other guy is just as many of the applicant been an expert in it oh yeah I own a trial business for last year hashtag that God did all day yeah now if I more if I'm doing the middle the night I'm just by myself like just listen to podcasts just like this Friday night when doing more hundred percent on the posted lightly what I do you guys suggest feels like that old little Simpson joker were like Marge's learning piano just like it just teaching piano 2 inches like I said that they wanted 11 lesson ahead of the kids basically like what is I feel like that's a lot of a lot of management nowadays just because were to spread out just, everything so segmented fragmented out from a management standpoint discussed the Internet box with everybody's head there's too much school stuff out trying to think of the worst a recorded voice and I said I lost applying as live video interrupted that's fine whatever the reason I'm going to yeah that's what the producer does sit here and inform you of the situation will we may have one coming up later following her over there. You write it only to close over there like putting together yeah the tubes are it's me know it's not a will and do it I understand I'm I'm in the process of trying to get it to the point we get used to having this kind of a situation on the backend because I would love for this Texaco no ocean here behind the classroom went to the roof to have the talent just me on how we piping in your earphones always like yeah Robert quivers out further like they're doing that thing are you just part echoing what he said but just like a live fraction of a second later so messily break their people audiences love that audiences love the audio that Don is a doubles okay get my children but all in all that's that's the worst in Prague a Mother's Day gift or gift if the copy the person right in front of you it's like a warm-up game and my this is this is the worst okay yeah that's what kids do the focal me yeah this did not touch you yeah putting it free country brought Jeffrey country free country that means on the deck he said it's a free country never push you yeah anything about that free country pitch right to bear arms my power arms whether or not I will yard and drumming is working on that how I was going for the dead pine thousand and although I was just trying to get all the way to bear arms basically I said I queued up for five minutes oh yeah oh yeah I got an offer one day the full circle with all the others are talking live earlier should do my daily diary touch back to it as you have wakes up and set beforehand like your you to say it oh well like way way before you worry in this weird phrase and see if I can sell it won't last year my New Year's resolution was to say Kirsty more and so I think I've done a good job and it's in the lexicon outside of the poor said that like three or four times a been here in a good because it's now it's woven into my vernacular it is the Meebo was named earthy yeah yeah you need to name it something so why not maybe together looks like McCarthy it does I cancel the slogan for this podcast should be good with the advice I think but I think you get a totally different audience sweat equity well after the pragmatic but pragmatic girth he advises that case went by the movie so what tell us what tell us about the industry what's going on how about this habit give advice 10 years younger you that wanted to get into this time travel give advice yourself for you or you just taught given advice to classrooms read really start learn is the start of the environmental I've probably stolen from somebody am sure but now it's it's parallel theory like Seth Godin noon ship and or was really a look at things just start now we don't listen we don't listen to those those Silicon Valley anticancer types that are those higher up business guys that's why we created this actually one like anti-Tim Ferris here so your maybe you can't like it everything you one like for exactly that's about it seriously a decent anointment it also goes or I listen to all the software podcasting to be like or I just get like seven of your friends that are billionaires then you sit know why commentator conference room and wrote a book on how to manage her $80,000 a month pharmaceutical business yeah thanks for the advice Tim swing five people's likelihood is make a product yeah okay which one tell me so this that's why I go so specific and like mu.com reference or some like that because there is it it sounds jilted sometimes but it it it I heard Colin Quinn say's specificity is the language of the universal wrote that down and remembered it I really like that because I feel like my the way I look at comedy and a lot of the communication and language I try to be overly specific unnecessarily because it's kind of funny or sometimes but I do that sometimes even workbench doctors yeah yeah it's fun what so just start now you have the motivation to do it my my first thing I know I know nothing about how to start to want to be this kind of artist I would say I tried to find like a Mashable class or something get that bait Linda Gladden limit as far as I can as a prism I'm thinking I'm thinking of when I was when I had this mindset to do workbench stuff right I was like I was Artie kind of in it and I'm thinking like the time is whenever you have it in the lake it's now right right yeah it's an appendage to what you're doing already like this podcast is timing cost-effective and it's a good way to get her voice out and literally don't have to spend that many hours a week or so it's not and it's fine so it's not that bad and I'm sure when you start seeing results of people, subscribing that's when it kind of felt fun you know effluent is the first part of doing like some kind of like content strategy like this even if it's not like focused on making money anything it it's that thing of like your print out there for a while lit and unless you have a big budget to put add money or some it's just to be like I am sending us 100 views that are under a message in a bottle for me to do with how it is I started as I started action video instead of YouTube so I started putting stuff up on there and I'm like very cool and it actually got a decent amount of use I know what the deal is with that but just didn't feel like the right type of place I've made a suggestion to go to me I was acting as an Internet for me on the hooves man they just bought that camera company live stream mix bottom out they want to be the third player now and is Facebook's down number two I think video rights which might be three I don't know but as far as like like not watching video games video some places blows my mind that it could be threatened if I can blows my life that is fine. It's insane kids these days that they're actually good about people doing leave and start unit is random stuff and which like all sorts of stuff like I said I have these very very Blake takes on different things and YouTube and like you know if a 3YI like when I went to censor yourself you will hear psychotic artist to its anatomy and I mean like a wimp or hoax everyone yeah me that all porn set yeah okay everything is nothing here that I was kind yeah that's in a separate graphic video right here in your normal everyday you know what are your you're like nine you know yeah yeah whatever yeah so that's what else is on twitch there's a there's people like I watched the granted I don't want to let stuff on twitch by know they have switch usually watching on YouTube because I'm older I guess I will and I'm not there at like 6 o'clock when people doing things like you do that I watch that does he make things this child hold I like to make stuff so he does switch dreams and stuff and then there's a guy that does like these prop making things like reprints and phone stuff and that's punish props and he does stuff on there as well though at times catch people's live stream stuff later on but I'm not on twitch watching it but it's a content that was generated therein so you go on YouTube to go to twitch one I'm usually usually people posting a shortened version of it let Mrs. know I'm scribbling literally hours I don't usually have three hours worth the time to yet we but we will sit there and we were trying to figure out a process to there's I think I will be asked if we start using that as a live broadcasting software we like that the Meebo camera supposed to be able to get you on a few streams at a time but they have some weird thing were like you can either do Facebook live only or you can do YouTube and and for me at the same time and so it's like okay but you know ideally you want to have the video up on all three I say but nobody like do not take checking YouTube and DiMeo like to check Facebook so going live on Facebook makes we don't sense but remember we just a tinfoil hat and they get us in every time like I subscribed a workbench their channel every time you post the video I get an email notification right under the Rome open accidentally you're in you're more like this easily on Facebook more people you check that will always me taking were not going on for me oh to see what's new on mimeo for me as a profession where it makes sense for that it makes sense for I know the half of what we talked about as a hard very unlimited in the way it was like I feel like that's for finished work that's like how it feels but maybe that's all you survey it has to be like cures like real professional video they are naturally separate themselves from my main business stuff is like my main actual company workers on their W a means I would if I'm right now playing armchair quarterback I'd say just make just take everything you've done on that channel and just uploaded to mimeo and it's all good with the keywords and all that stuff all that stuff helps in the e-learning thing is really what they're focusing on so like premium premium subscription model stuff that happens that that like a FC that come along that I don't want people have to like pay for things unless it's specific like is there a subscription that people can just like sign up to look at YouTube rather than go to Freeman the freemium strategy which is a lot of apps do it right so you you get a nap it's free but like to really use it you gotta pay for box or whatever it is it hey it's the same thing the podcast or starting your concern see that a lot more Sam Tripoli was telling us he does bonus content and then for anybody that does patriot on donations which I guess is I saw a PayPal button on yours yet I could have paid his patrons way better now for one reason that such a good think of do as I feel like sometimes my patron I struggle actually like get like the word tears and stuff done just just because a lot of times Kleinwort comes in and then I have to do that yeah I mean I told John Jacobs who was on tinfoil podcast just had a album come out I was like look you want organic an organic strategy it's a little corny but you should anybody buys your album and they screenshot it send it to you should freestyle the name on my Facebook live people love that and they would share it it would get the help on that on their in is not doing what you know comedian I didn't follow through his own doubts deftly done to look like that, like wind over the old spice was doing the the old spice guy was like showing out people like 10 years ago but oh yeah, that if you like you can tweet to my thing at a time and like everyone so I like you they pick somebody and they had him dutifully 24 hours me like that like customize videos toward little pieces it's it's okay could you do this in the whatever production team I don't know they must have liked some just a team stuff oh yeah he was that they like pop it out like immediately oh that pride was the program when I was like people like had specific supplicating to do a video would like a toothbrush in a workmanlike like a 24 hour film fest but it was like only a guy in Terry Cruz knows the Isaiah Mustapha order when you know the other guys after right is right I told him to get rid of commitment I know I'm with you I should to double back in? This is like what I guess try to think which way to go with this what you want to do with this like what you what are you getting out of having this channel I think I I would see that is like you can look at it like a freemium model like like you're doing right eventually you're gonna want to try to get something financially out of it may be direct or indirect is that'll make it better yeah I mean so right now I kind of it's kind of somewhat of a vehicle for other things I have like it like the products inscriptions in the cell and molecular stuff but at the same time a muscle thinking of doing more like specific tutorial play groupings so where is right now making all the tutorials and I'm never to stop doing those free leases far as I can right now but those will always be there you know but the other something of like an actual like a tutorial series or some like that where it actually I can sell that as a unit yeah that's way single tutorial probably not get sold but I mean Jill one specific thing with 10 different managers showing everything they need to know is it so there goes all those anymore I ran those be more from the ground up versus my normal like here's the thing we have to either later this I do and that's it you know little bit more basic stuff you talk about what had not even that exactly basic but like I say it with one of the one something of doing his expression tutorial or expression series and I'm thinking of doing that to where we start from the beginning and it goes in a more like programming in depth like here's what you would do this and whatever you know versus like hey this is cool affect saga expression as this is like a snippet of code and aftereffects that you can use it to like run other things basically like to thank you for telling love with you like Eric got it the only link things together or dynamiting bitcoin what I wish I've missed out on that pretty heavily it's kind of like you can take some have liked for controls of you can bring up your own control to control multiple layers of different things there really powerful you do a lot of stuff with it that's kind of convert topic to actually specifically explain and like one now how do better under five cents IR Inc. in your elevator and yeah write it up yet what I mean that's why we this is the podcasts good you can kinda take the time to explain something that's a little confusing that's why you're doing these videos it's it's hard to I we do video for almost everything now like I don't want to do any phone calls with clients because this is so much visual stuff and it's like now now let's do phone I'll go now let's just reschedule it because it's not you can try to explain to me like guess some things in the talking like this create a ruling, is to help you, Howdy pixels we talk about the early pixels right well you know never that, that's the measurement you use pocket pocket five it is these things up there on what you like to now turn on speaking of in the camera like so I also production stuff and having having those around my house is great but then I'm watching the dictatorial and like color grading and that she's talking to me like what you talking I like the this morning I was watching something about collaborating in and she's like okay so were to repair this thing like prepare what are you talking about I turn mine off yeah it's it's hard my kids see the file, change the names of the notes I can think of something else like Beyoncé my uncle had ever detached his door from it because people if you can eat if you are outside you said open deluxe open Gloriana jet open a door ceiling again, and detach the snow yet he has his whole house Morehouse hooked up to the Lexan problem was that he was a humongous queue society like let's open the door and open the door from the thought of Isaac this is not good now you baby girl it's been well hey baby girl.you doing about I can't believe it took this long to get keyless entry door houses like what we had our car for 15 years I said I go for the stupid metal key in my house, I agree right but always late and I think always get the one like we've got technologies in a failure at some point so get the analog, you can always put the key and if you need to that we have a thumbprint one fingerprint one and I'm like this thing to break I want something that hasn't punch code I thought finger print and then also an addict glory hole for your key because that's my theory with all like that, smart home stuff if I can't turn on the lights physically that I don't want to have a yeah my app to do it. Let's carry I could I feel like I have bad luck with a lot of stuff to do and it'll break down and the moment you need it the most have had that happen to me a couple times were used have a wink that was controlling stuff. It's a hub okay it's like all the other that she went had Home Depot to get like loud laugh I do since then live in Like that I'll actually have since been able to put that into my Phillips you set up which is nice that works like instantly and great but the week one would like fail at random times and latency for the morning like a camera to go to sleep a good turn off lights and it just doesn't yeah like okay great I like the power goes off and for some reason it set to automatically like turn them on slick power is off you I do like I do like this I use I have TTT for a lot of that and I do we have the Phillips you in our place for a few lights and I like I like that it will turn the lights red if there's like a smoke detector goes off were there or something like that you take in warmth or chicken gas station chicken warm bread whatever fried chicken we have laying around it interests automatically turn to that that this martyrdom stuff scares me that it's kind of why we I don't have one of the any of the voice activated things at her house I'm fine with that here is God knows what she thinks we talk about in this room when the vice will verify the calyx profile please yeah know they got a dossier on is what I mean they can't really advertise to us because it's so were so random over the paragraph and I don't think they did like in one sentence will talk about Lexi sleep that what is sensory deprivation tank and like great cubes you know that's going to call that guy's attached is a business that is how far we in here what's the minute count for producer think we gotta wrap it up in the minutes or something here that tells you that Jesus go to the letter sounds like you're done and I think we started at, 20 I think were 45 ends up 40 minutes boom I found it any advice just made that up like that fixed it if you any advice you want to give out there anything short you want to throw out there that I didn't pre-ask you what you want to talk about like a good host would anything in your industry any or reduce pitch about some if you want me like I said before tubes copying people that's a big thing you know I feel like there's a lot of people that just some kids like it because my wife the teacher right so a lot of times the the there is the you get like the two groups I feel like now there's like kids that really want to learn something in there like driven to you know do whatever and then you are, I guess is probably true of all generations but in whatever way I see now being old 34-year-old so if your you have these other people that basically want to been given to them now like and if I feel it's a little bit more than when I was a kid probably because when I was a kid he had let go to an encyclopedia or you know whatever the lake gets information and now it's just like people just like old you didn't tell me exactly how to do it you know and and I've that's kind of what my tutorials are kind of geared to not do look, I want to know the reason though because I think it's frustrating to double back when you're in the middle of that right now the reason is that you learn one way and the other way you don't learn like if you you either learn how to get information or you learn how to like figure out how to get information so you think the speed that common I saw was like why can't you tell might slow it down and no break everything down you think more Darwinism like that's just half sometimes as people are people that are learning in on their there just new to it they don't understand the people that leave comments now is the final test this I don't know the board laying out three comments on YouTube his comments on YouTube narcissistic I had to read the ones were never on arms at every site I think a reply to pretty much everybody I replied nicely and the guy the try to accuse me of actually like stealing some else's tutorial or something 1000 interesting where is basically just like okay so people can have the same idea that's not loud apparently and I'm supposed to know what everybody else in the tutorial spaces that were occasionally has some data set this is my reply was like okay will assuming I stole this one what about the other like 70 done at that time right what about that that the other guy 70 guys like was like people commenting on when I did like 60 back or something like what okay they probably saw one the copied of you that I think you got it okay yeah I've had comedian still my material and I don't there's not much you can do about it except confront them but usually I they die out anyway yeah and I don't I'm not worried about it and now lives I've seen people that are basically like within a few days posted to the world that similar to mine is different enough or whatever but I'm like I don't care yeah yeah it's funny to read their comment silicone man you're the only person on YouTube doing the stuff it's like that's funny because I get that sink in a comment like Virgo that we had people accusing us or throwing up illuminati gang signs during the podcast address like that the likely like that I don't know I don't know really what I was reading a lot of the stuff left will follow to us, like I'm not big on social justice stuff obviously got really a thing whatever but anyway yeah one thing is really feeling all right one thing is funny is that you said you see the thing if you were doing this like okay oh will do everything under the now everything I know it looks like wipeout like they like so some of the people that were like in this thing we visited a watch on YouTube is his name is that somehow it all okay humble some black eye and a couple other people like any work you really did like this like dealer's like the slick white power thing is like a joke you know like and but they got it like actually get news on it like you were calling this like some kind of whites only making the symbol the index after the other three fingers up yeah you don't want to lick you the okay dive symbol you know like that okay Moji just turns out that yeah the other for the penal perfect whatever but I thought you're going to go on the one is the game that came back from our middle school early high school days is you can take the okay you put it on your thigh whatever Melissa has people your bell ever if someone looks at it get to punch in the stupid ship I never initially combine that together it's dark back like Smirnov whatever the kneeling Smirnov nice that I went back to its back than the national championship photo of Alabama one guy was for the players is doing it which is where ever he that's like an 18-year-old kid doesn't know at school if all right dad I think it's funny there's a people doing it I don't have a type of super professional meeting at the White House meeting people there to have fun it that I mean it's funny but you know all I fall is like 50 or barstool sports like Friday old room science Yep again I got a question so how do you manage expectations for some of the new artist that you meet as far as getting into the industry I don't think it's really think people have a lot of like doom and gloom unlike other semi people doing it whatever but there's not so many good people so like a lot of times that I am trying to get in I get I get a lot of work coming in and then I have nobody to farm it to know because a lot of times it's just there's nobody good around you know you just have to be like like hone your skills don't just say oh well I don't use aftereffect so here you go you know like you can't really have the idea that people should just be giving you money you know and in you just have to kind of like just like learners that you know you cannot sit there and after effects and like yeah or wherever programmer using phenolics and their actually actively learning and experimenting and that you're not really gonna grow to the level that you working late you know get extra work and stuff you know because otherwise you're just doing whatever belts does so you're just taking that basil yeah you know it's obvious it's a prerequisite that you know this program in order to make stuff but you need to like work on it more in order to learn things about it have talent you deftly need talent yeah I mean yeah I have an eye for the best person is or talented enough you there's nothing I'm on called the mow grass like whatever it's hashtag motion design.com and that's there's a lot of like people hanging out in there and sharing knowledge about different things and I feel like I've got a lot of stuff no just from them and just you know people have liked met online you know it okay want to do this work and sometimes even people send me an idea for tutorial that way okay I don't do tutorials but you and I can do whatever and I shot a mountain I can assure what they have so I think I think you need to get I saw that you've added yourself in the beginning of as intro I think Geico picture-in-picture have your your you countries to shot you are doing it sure, then I get that I get the problem of well I do like cuts because I'm try to keep them short so that was my other goal when I first heard it was like really keeping him shortly I got tired of twirl that like 40 minutes long in the show like the same thing also in three minutes notes like Goldmine the cuts are thinking on the front they understand that your skip and I'm saying I ran inside should you do picture-in-picture and have you in the time a tiny box of bottom just so they don't know gastric almost branding yourself a little bit in a way you couldn't and I don't have to record yourself at the exact same time searching her cut down there again when you're just doing a voiceover you sure you could but mean you can do OB we started doing it with the how to tutorials we do website for someone which would shoot like seven of those and will I want to mess around with that OBS picture-in-picture thing so that our thing is we want to show them there's a human behind this living I did and it didn't intro that's what started doing I think you can intro but I might actually do a little like a cutaway because that might be a little easier for me to shoehorn into the way I do everything that's kind of how I'm planning on doing that one series is a guy who's watermark your face at the thought of the bug cut out yeah that IBM gets the job whatever it is I think I think you are workbench workbenches you kind of thing now but is that things like you may develop something a couple years down the line that you are expert for this intermediate to advanced area sure they work. People may want to book you workbench we have a we talked about with this like there's opportunities for us to do business kinda commie business stuff I we got a role or producer showing cue cards it says 57+ we got we got a lot about you a lot a bunch a lot a bunch of work to do picture coming on and anything else you know Damon now Matt is fun bossing your mouth back here I like I like having you as the produce. Yeah and I is inviting whiteboard and now as put in a request for whiteboards and sharpies and so will have and will have the display screen you see that professionalism here that audio jack going yeah yeah

Episode Sponsors below** Damian Alpizar is a director, producer, writer, photographer, editor, podcast host of The Wrap Party, and owner of 208 Monkeys, a video, film and animation production company in Ybor City, Tampa, FL.  

Episode #002: I Met My First Boyfriend on Meebo by Kelli Haug, Kat Marcotte

With Christmas fast approaching, it’s time to be finalizing which gifts to give to everyone. In this episode, Nils and Jay talked through a lot of perfect tech gift ideas. They give insightful reviews of gadget specifications and some tech ideas you might want to consider before buying a gift for important people in your life. Tune in to the podcast to grab some Christmas tech ideas!     We’d love to hear YOUR Christmas tech gifts ideas, too! Tell us by using the hashtag #SMCPodcast.   Show Notes: Nest  RICOH VR Camera  Flexible Tripod for iPhone, for GoPro  Multi-material 3D printer   Nintendo MINI NES  UDI U818A quadcopter  Circle with Disney  Amazon Echo Dot  Meebo 

Seth Sternberg is the Co-Founder & CEO of Honor. Prior to Honor, Seth was the Co-Founder and CEO of Meebo, which brought instant messaging to the web. At 200 people and $50M in revenue, reaching close to half the US internet population, Meebo was acquired by Google. Seth discusses utilizing his knowledge in technology and combining it with in-home care.

Seth Sternberg is the Co-Founder & CEO of Honor. Prior to Honor, Seth was the Co-Founder and CEO of Meebo, which brought instant messaging to the web. At 200 people and $50M in revenue, reaching close to half the US internet population, Meebo was acquired by Google. Seth discusses utilizing his knowledge in technology and combining it with in-home care.

It is something we all face -- the prospect of taking care of a parent (or two) when they can't quite take care of themselves. For Seth Sternberg, part of the founding team of messaging service Meebo (bought by Google) a trip in the car with his mother reinforced the inevitability of her aging. Today it was her driving, but soon how would she manage everything else? For Sternberg, the answer to that question lay in part with technology. How could technology be brought to bear so that his mother -- and other seniors -- might stay in their homes longer and live not just physically satisfying lives, but lives that addressed their emotional well-being as well? The founding Meebo team got back together to build that technology, the backbone of their new company Honor. In this segment of the pod Sternberg and co-founder Sandy Jen discuss how technology needs to disappear into a human experience -- becoming something that isn't about the shiny and new, and more about human interaction. Also, after such a successful run at Meebo why torture themselves with building some new? The answer is exactly what you would hope.

Sarah is a seasoned entrepreneur and marketer with startup in her DNA and a passion for brands. She began her career on Madison Avenue where she managed client relationships and studied what makes people tick at J. Walter Thompson, Ammirati Puris Lintas, and M&C Saatchi, then struck out on her own as a marketing consultant. She has worked with a long list of big brand marketers, including Kellogg, Unilever, MSN, General Motors, Gap, and Bank of America. She's spent the better part of the last decade nurturing two startups she co-founded: Mindset Media, an ad technology platform acquired by Meebo in 2011, and Buttoned Up, a company dedicated to motivating people who are “too busy to get organized” to take the daily, incremental steps required to conquer the chaos.   In her free time she provides the VO for nearly all Monster Truck and NASCAR Hot Wheels races held on her two boys' tracks in the basement playroom. Oh, and she does laundry. Lots and lots of laundry. 00:00 Sarah discusses what the Noom platform is exactly. 01:30 Noom as a content delivery platform allows users to participate in food logging, as well as receive support and health tips digitally, and tap into a clinician network. 02:50 Noom's start as a consumer app, and its evolution towards interacting more with the healthcare world specifically. 03:55 “82 million Americans are currently pre-diabetic.” 06:00 The potential that technology has towards building adherence. 09:00 How Noom is funded. 11:15 How a consumer or healthcare provider can access the Noom app from the app store. 12:00 What a patient would do with the Noom app after downloading it from the app store. 20:00 What happens if a user stops logging information into Noom. 22:15 The pilot work that Noom is focusing on currently. 23:30 How Noom is different from consumer-facing apps. 24:45 How Noom deviates from simply being a data-reflecting app. 29:00 The three things that Noom gives its users: 1) A plan 2) Feedback/reinforcement and 3) intervention when users fall off track. 30:00 Noom is designed to assist patients towards shifting their lifestyles and diets towards healthier options for the long term. 36:00 “This is a journey back to self confidence.” 37:30 How Noom might integrate in the future. 38:30 You can learn more about Noom at Noom.com or Noomhealth.com  

Justin and Jason discuss the technologies - Node.js, Socket.io & Redis, which Justin and Udi are using to build digedu's chat system, using CSS fixed positioning for popups on tablets, the influence of good looks on success, Miss Korea contestants and plastic surgery, and Jason's idea for scoring your looks, using Google Trends to beat the market, how Wall Street is gobbling up two-thirds of your 401(k), sending smart phones to space as personal satellites and the concern about space junk, surviving in space without a space suit, how the SpaceX Grasshopper flew 250 meters straight up and then landed vertically, the Kickstarter campaign to engineer florescent plants using synthetic biology, Zach Braff's Kickstarter campaign to finance his new film, kickstarting a Dungeons & Dragons project, the prospect of recording a world-record length podcast, the Soylent controversy, what it's like to get online after 25 years in prison, the prisoner who impregnated four female guards and the prisoner who escaped using a picture of a master key, Jason's thoughts on Oblivion, Just Add Content, thoughts on MicroConf, smoke and mirrors demo-ware, the Silicon Valley "miracle machine" and how Meebo is going to be shut down, AnyFu's recent resurgence, why Justin is purchasing a walking desk, the importance of mastering the underlying dynamics of a system and the pitfalls of pattern matching on superficial attributes, the Y Combinator labor arbitrage, how Jason rolled out an alpha version of his secret project for digedu to use, and Justin's concept of an MDP (minimum delightful project).

This week's podcast is with branding authority Marty Neumeier. It is actually a conversation I had with Marty last year but is even more relevant now than it was then. It is hands down the most eye opening conversation I have had to date regarding branding. I was especially interested to hear what an expert outside of the music industry had to say about branding and where it fits within today's music business. The answers revealed insight that I think is priceless for those navigating today's music industry. Marty is the author of numerous branding books including "Brand Gap" and "Zag" (rated among the top 100 business books in the world) and is also the director of his company Liquid Agency. His clients have included Apple, Nike, PlayStation, Meebo, HP, Microsoft, and many, many more! He is a speaker and has made presentations around the world. I have huge respect for Marty and highly recommend his books to anyone interested in doing any type of business. Aaron Bethune www.playitloudmusic.com “Design drives innovation; innovation powers brand; brand builds loyalty; and loyalty sustains profits. If you want long-term profits, start with design. I believe that design is a powerful business tool and my career has been based on helping companies leverage the power of design to build successful brands from the inside out.” Marty Neumeier Marty Neumeier started out as a graphic designer and he developed hundreds of brand icons, retail packages, and other communications for companies such as Apple, Adobe, Netscape, Kodak, and HP. Eventually, Marty evolved into an editor, and launched CRITIQUE, a magazine that quickly became the leading forum for improving design effectiveness through critical analysis. Later in his career, Marty started Neutron, a design think-tank focused on brand-building processes that drive organizational change. Today, as Liquid Agency’s Director of Transformation, Marty offers high level consulting for some of the world’s most respected brands, while also writing and lecturing worldwide on the subject of branding, business and innovation. Marty’s books have been hailed as breakthroughs by Fast Company, BusinessWeek, and Harvard Business Review. His books have been described as a “practical field guide on how to create and grow a world-class brand”, and “ZAG” was recently named one of “The 100 Best Business Books of All Time”. www.liquidagency.com

Apple představil vylepšené MacBooky a jejich novou generaci s extrémním výkonem a vysokým rozlišením displeje. Google koupil Meebo, a MS chce patent na náladovou reklamu.

В программе: — Google заключила соглашение о покупке Meebo; — Google представила карты в 3D; — Яндекс.Перевод вышел из стадии бета-тестирования; — Итальянцы купили 15 тонн пармезана через Facebook; — ООН рассмотрит проект "налога" на интернет-сети; — Яндекс.Деньги зарегистрируют небанковскую кредитную организацию. События недели: — Награда "Cloud Award-2012" — за вклад в региональное развитие облачных сервисов" — "CloudsNN"; — Итоги Международного Форума "Smart House & Office, Open Innovations"; — Встреча игроков "Золотой Бутсы" в Киеве. По материалам timeofnewz.ru и Lenta.ru. Выходит при поддержке "Независимой ассоциации русскоязычных подкастеров".

Espero me disculpen la tardanza en esta ocasión, pero me parece que hay una buena razón para ello. A pesar de que escuché el programa casi en su totalidad el mismo miércoles, la consternación que me produjo lo ocurrido en el me hizo escucharlo una y otra vez y aún así sigo sin entenderlo. No sé si habrá una versión "oficial" de este audio, así que les dejo los acostumbrados enlaces grabados por nuestros amigos.Enlace de ComiCorp (64kbps - 79 MB)Enlace de Mr. Mxyzptlk (16kbps - 19 MB)El Dúo DinámicoEl programa empezó de la manera acostumbrada, con Joey realizando los agradecimientos de rigor e informando que Paco iba en camino y llegaría con algunos minutos de retraso. Después procedió a empezar con la lectura de comentarios en el Meebo y Messenger, respondiendo algunas dudas acerca de personajes que son favoritos suyos, como Nemesis y el Captain Marvel.Cuando llevaba aproximadamente media hora de programa, llegó Paco y fue cuando se dio el incidente que parece marcará el final de ComiConexión. Yo no estaba presente y prefiero no especular acerca de el entorno en que se dio la situación ni tomar partido. Estamos hablando de dos amigos a quienes conozco desde hace casi quince años y esta situación me preocupa e incomoda, así que prefiero que ustedes lo escuchen y saquen sus propias conclusiones.Confuso y preocupado, Paco procedió a seguir leyendo y respondiendo comentarios, además de tomar algunas llamadas al aire. Entre los temas comentados entre llamadas habría que destacar Next Avengers, iniciativa poco exitosa de Marvel de crear una nueva camada de héroes juveniles, y Marvel 2099.Paco comentó que el único título recomendable del universo futuro de Marvel era Spider-man 2099 y estoy completamente de acuerdo, pues Peter David hizo un gran trabajo al crear un personaje interesante, rodearlo de un personal de soporte bastante completo, y hallar el modo de contar buenas historias con él sin dañar la marca y tradición que representa Spider-man en los comics. Solo cabría aclarar que el dibujante regular de la serie era Rick Leonardi, dibujante con una capacidad narrativa bastante sobresaliente pero con un estilo muy poco atractivo para dibujar superhéroes. Paco mencionó a Mark Bagley, pero seguramente estaba confundiendo versiones alternativas de Spidey, pues Bagley dibujó más de cien números de Ultimate Spider-man.Paco mencionó que yo era fan de los títulos 2099, y eso me parece una exageración, pues si bien intenté seguir algunos de los títulos, el único del que realmente me consideraría fan es precisamente Spidey 2099. Doom 2099 tenía algunas ideas interesantes, pero carecía de un rumbo claro, y aún cuando Warren Ellis hizo cosas interesantes con el título un par de años después de su lanzamiento, creo que ya era demasiado tarde para intentar rescatar el proyecto. Nunca leí ni Ravage ni Punisher porque desde los previos aparecidos en otros comics encontré sus premisas y ejecución muy poco atractivas.Paco mencionó a los X-Men 2099 como una serie con aspectos interesantes, pero me parece que también ahí sufrió una confusión, pues esa serie era bastante regularcita y poco atractiva, teniendo como mayor atractivo el dibujo de Ron Lim, aunque se trata de un artista que genera división de opiniones, pues para algunos representa un plus y para otros es razón suficiente para evitar un título.Mi teoría de que Paco se confundió se basa en que mencionó que ahí fue uno de los primeros trabajos de Humberto Ramos para Marvel, cuando en realidad Humberto participó en X-Nation 2099, serie bastante más interesante que X-Men 2099 pese a haber durado solo 6 números antes del colapso de la línea y la renuncia masiva de los creativos como respuesta ante el despido de Joey Cavalieri, editor de la línea.Solo extendería una mención especial a Ghost Rider 2099, que si bien nunca pudo cuajar y convertirse en un título tan interesante como pudo haber sido, tenía una premisa bastante interesante, situada en un mundo cibernético fuertemente influenciado por la obra de William Gibson, además de contar con un arte espectacular de artistas tan visualmente distintivos como Ashley Wood, Chris Bachalo o Mark Buckingham.Alguien cuestionó a Paco acerca de la novela gráfica de The New Teen Titans titulada The Game, misma que él procedió a recomendar ampliamente, pero haciendo énfasis en que se trata de una historia que debía haber aparecido publicada hace muchos años y que mucho del contenido de la historia está ligado estrechamente a la continuidad de la serie regular en la época de su mayor popularidad, cuando Marv Wolfman y George Perez se hacían cargo de las aventuras del popular equipo juvenil de DC Comics, y que por tanto restringía su recomendación para aquellos familiarizados con los personajes y en particular con esa época del título.Lorna decidió ser un poco más participativa en el programa para ayudar a cubrir un poco la ausencia de Joey, y lo hizo hablando de series de TV. Concretamente, Lorna tuvo a bien recomendar una serie producida por el canal SyFy llamada Warehouse 13 (Bodega 13), que por la descripción que hizo suena más que interesante. Además, para aquellos que tenemos problemas para seguir algunas series debido a sus horarios de transmisión, recomendó hacer una prueba con Netflix, el sistema de video streaming que está disponible en nuestro país desde hace varios meses.Kikimoniki, el autor de algunas de las divertidas tiras cómicas que hemos podido disfrutar en este blog a lo largo de los años, llamó a cabina para expresar tanto su preocupación por la intempestiva salida de Joey, como para participar en el tema de series de TV recomendando la siempre interesante serie británica Misfits, comentada ya en alguna ocasión en el programa hace un tiempo.La suya fue la segunda llamada, pues antes que él el Capitán Pamplinas se había comunicado para manifestarse sobre el disgusto de Joey.Paco procedió entonces a realizar las preguntas para participar por la oportunidad de ganarse una copia del número 4 de la miniserie formato Prestige OMAC, realizada por John Byrne hace un par de décadas.Mientras intentaba aclararse la garganta y proseguir con su intento de contactar vía telefónica a Joey, Paco envió a una nueva pausa musical, misma que, al igual que las anteriores, Lorna dedicó a Joey.Al volver de la pausa, Paco decidió dedicar algunos minutos a hablar del que sin duda fue uno de los temas más comentados durante la semana, que fue el sensible fallecimiento del artista francés Jean Giraud, mejor conocido como Moebius. Habló un poco de su obra y del impacto que el trabajo de este importante artista tuvo en el medio y en el desarrollo de otros creativos, de su importancia para el desarrollo y crecimiento de un mercado de comic alternativo y/o independiente, y contó una anécdota propia.En ese momento recibió una llamada de Gus, quien también opinó un poco acerca del incidente con Joey antes de dedicar algunos minutos a hablar también acerca de Moebius, ofreciendo más información sobre su vida y su obra, y compartiendo una anécdota personal ocurrida durante la visita que el extraordinario artista francés realizó a México hace varios años.Finalmente, ya con un poco de presión debido a la hora, Paco procedió a leer las respuestas a la trivia, topándose con que una de sus preguntas parece habersele complicado de manera particular a casi todos los participantes, quienes no podían dar con la respuesta correcta acerca de la primera colaboración entre Chris Claremont y John Byrne.Aparentemente nadie hizo nunca caso acerca de las recomendaciones de los héroes cósmicos de Marvel en mis intervenciones pasadas en el programa, pues ahí habíamos mencionado que el personaje de Starlord fue creado por este par de creativos antes de proceder a su más famosa colaboración en los X-Men.Al final, el ganador de la trivia fue El Zombie de Tlalpan, pues a pesar de que sus respuestas fueron enviadas casi cuarenta minutos después que las de otros participantes, él fue el único que acertó a mencionar la historia de origen de Starlord, nombrando además con toda propiedad el título de la revista en cuestión. El Zombie de Tlalpan es ahora el feliz poseedor del número 4 de OMAC, y sin duda espero que pronto buscará hacerse con el resto de esa excelente serie.Por último, antes de despedirme y esperar a enterarme de cual será el futuro de este espacio y del programa al que acompañaba, les informo que el regalo para la que presuntamente será la última emisión de ComiConexión será el número 18 de Superman Man of Steel, comic perteneciente a la Saga de La Muerte de Superman, misma que diera pie en nuestro país al famoso Boom del Comic hace ya casi dos décadas.Hasta la próxima.

Audio File:  Download MP3Transcript: An Interview with Sandy Jen Co-founder and CTO, Meebo Date: January 16, 2012 [Intro music] Lucy Sanders: Hi. This is Lucy Sanders, the CEO of the National Center for Women and Information Technology, or NCWIT, and with me is Larry Nelson from w3w3.com. Larry, hi. Larry Nelson: Hi. I'm so happy to be here. This is a great series. It has a tremendous impact on young women, parents, bosses, and we're very excited. Lucy: We're not going to disappoint listeners. We're going to have a great interview today with Sandy Jen, who's the co-founder and CTO, that's chief technology officer of Meebo. Meebo is a great company and we have interviewed somebody from there before, Eileen Wherry. We had just a great time talking with her so we needed to go back around and catch up with Sandy. Here's this great tag line that I've heard used with Meebo. It's "together is better." That's a great tag line because Meebo integrates all social networks and communication channels into a very simple single solution so that it makes all those different channels a whole lot easier to use. I was poking around on Tech Crunch, Larry, and found out that-- probably these numbers have gotten even higher since I did it in November-- you have 250 million Unique's a month. Wow! That's astonishing growth. Here's some other stats: now delivering 5.4 billion page views a month, up from 2.8 billion a year ago. Larry: That's a "B"? Lucy: A "B". Larry: Wow! Sandy Jen: That's a "B". [laughs] Lucy: That's a "B". Sandy leads engineering as the CTO, of course, and builds the team responsible for all these great products and solutions, organizing the technology and the innovation and thinking very creatively about how you scale Meebo's architecture. Welcome Sandy, we're really happy to have you here. Sandy: Really great to be here and thank you for calling. Lucy: So why don't you tell us a little bit, other than those astonishing growth statistics, what else is going on at Meebo? Sandy: Let's see. We launched in 2005 so we're about six years old, which I guess is a pretty long time for a startup. We still consider ourselves a startup even though we're roughly 200 people now. We started with three, so it's also been a big growth in terms of just the number of heads we have on staff. Our goal, from day one we started out as a web instant messaging client and we wanted to connect people with other people that were important to them. Back in 2005 a really cool way to do that was chatting and instant messaging. We think as the web got a lot more big and a lot more complex and people are a lot more savvy now on how they use the web. Their expectations are a lot higher on how they connect with people and generally just consume content. So now what we're doing at Meebo, six years later, is connecting people with other people, but also people with content that's important to them. It's been an interesting journey for us. We started out as a web IM client, like I said, and now we're this distributed social bar. You mentioned our growth, which we're really proud of. The growth is now primarily due to this bar that I mentioned. We're on over 8,000 sites around the Internet that you see today and we reach about half the US Internet population, which is pretty cool as well. It's a really cool technology platform to play with to bring great consumer products and experiences to everybody that can touch the bar and see the bar. That goes beyond IM. So, we're experimenting with a bunch of ideas and how to really create a cool user experience using our distribution. Just to give you guys a little bit of a teaser we expect them to come out relatively quickly, in the next month or so. So keep an eye out. Larry: Oh good. We will. Lucy: Early in 2012. We love asking questions about entrepreneurship, as everybody who listens to these now, and we're about ready to get started with that. But I wanted to read a quote from Sandy from a recent entrepreneurship panel, because I think it's going to set up how great an interview this is going to be. "You may not feel as if you are qualified or confident enough. The biggest insight in this entrepreneurial journey of mine was when I realized that someone I knew, who was not super smart,"- I love this- "who failed the same tests I did had started a company, and I realized I could do it too." I loved it. I just love that quote, so I had to start with that. So, off we go. Sandy, we love talking to technologists, and especially CTOs. Share with us how you first got into technology and you've already told us a bit about cool technologies, but any other crystal ball you've got, technologies, on the horizon? We'd love to hear them. Sandy: I was lucky enough to grow up in a household where both my parents were engineers. It wasn't like a foreign thing growing up to be surrounded by engineering concepts like computers and physics and things like that. Getting started, I started pretty early in high school. Again, I was lucky enough to go to a high school that had actually four years of computer science classes offered. Lucy: That is amazing. Sandy: Yeah. [laughs] I started programming as a freshman in high school. Obviously, it wasn't the only thing that I did. I really enjoyed art as well, and English and a bunch of other topics. After I finished high school I was lucky enough to get into Stanford, they offered a couple of choices in Integral Computer Science classes. The first of which was if you've programmed before you could take an accelerated course and squish two quarters into one. Or you could take the two- quarter class that that would introduce you to the concept. So, I was like, "Well, I've done the programming, I'll go and take the accelerated course." Little did I know that those you take that course have the reputation of just doing computer science throughout their career. So, I took that course and here we are today. [laughter] Lucy: Here you are. Sandy: Exactly. I think that he quote that you mentioned was a really, really important one for me, where, going from a suburb high school to a big university like Stanford, one of the thing that's really eye-opening is that there are a lot of smart people in this world, and when you first meet a lot of these smart people, you're like wow, I don't know if I'm really that smart. When you go through your classes, and you may have gotten straight As in high school, but you may have gotten some Bs and Cs in college, it's a little bit of a hmm, like how good am I, right? I think for a lot of women in particular, that question tends to be maybe not explicit, but it does run strongly in the actions and the behaviors that they exude. For me, the biggest light bulb moment, like you said, was seeing someone who I thought, quote, was "as dumb" as I was do something extraordinary, and that was very inspiring. In my logical computer science brain, I was like, there's not a lot of difference between me and him, what made him do that? I think that was the biggest insight for me. So fast-forward six years now, when I talk to young entrepreneurs, a lot of them are like, "Oh, I have this great idea, I want to do this thing, I need to get the time, I need to do the business plan, I need to get the technology in place," and they keep putting up these road blocks. These are self-imposed road blocks. The difference today in terms of technology is that it's so easy to get started, like you have all these Cloud services that are really free and really cheap, you have all these resources available. You could get something launched, a mobile app, in like a week. That is extraordinarily powerful for a young, very ambitious entrepreneur who has an idea. In terms of crystal ball stuff, it's really hard for me to say, but the web is where everything is going, and whether that be mobile web apps or, websites that you get transferred to mobile, like all the things that people are doing these days, there's no concept of sort of a download or an application or even something that you sort of have to buy and pay for, there's all these services and online Cloud things. All those things are very, very interesting, and they're very powerful, and they're so easy to set up that I feel like that's where you'll see a lot of young people innovate, because it's so easy. That's really exciting for me. Larry: Boy. Lucy: It is really exciting. I can remember, I asked for my first promotion at work when somebody who I thought was a stupid... [laughter] Lucy: I really appreciate that. Larry: Yeah. Well, there you have parents that are engineers going through high school and enjoying a lot of different topics; why are you an entrepreneur? Maybe the second part is, what about entrepreneurship that makes you tick? Sandy: I want to go back a little bit. I went to an entrepreneurial organization at Yale called YEI, and I spoke with some of their students there, and one of them said, the interesting thing that I've found was that a lot of young people, especially young women, do entrepreneurial-type things, but they don't self-identify as an entrepreneur. They do things like, "Oh, I started a social club," or, "I started this meetup," or, "I gathered all these really cool people and they got to talk to each other, and now we do this on a regular basis," or, " Hey, I've started this event-planning thing that gets like all these really young people together." Those types of actions are actually very entrepreneurial. I would identify them as entrepreneurs, but they don't, and so they don't seek out help to take the next step. For me, I fell into entrepreneurship. I had the opportunity and I was like, "Wow. This is a really big risk." I'm generally more risk averse, and then I'm thinking, "Why the hell not?" Putting roadblocks in front of yourself like, "Oh. I'm not smart enough." "Oh, I need to do this." Or, "Oh. I didn't go to business school." Or, "Oh. I didn't do X, Y, Z." There's always excuses. I think that once I actually identified myself as an entrepreneur, and I took off with that, the most important thing that helped make me to continue to tick is that self confidence. It's the ability to think, "Oh, wow. I can really do this, and I can learn from this, and I can be respected for this, and the fact that I did this." Even if I have a team around me, the fact that you put yourself out there and were willing to take the risk to do that is amazing. Even today, six years later after we launched, I'm sometimes like, "Wow. Holy crap. I'm an entrepreneur." Or, "Oh my God. I'm the CTO." Because when you take a step back, it's like, "Wow. I was able to take a risk." Or, "I was able to put myself out there more than I would have before, and it really paid off." Even if the payoff is in monetary terms or the success of the company, the fact I overcame this self doubt, and, "Oh my God. I'm so stupid," or, "Oh. I'm not good enough." That in itself is very rewarding on a day to day basis. I think that's the thing that really makes me tick. Lucy: That's pretty interesting. The things we tell ourselves, right? I know. We had a person who we interviewed a couple of months ago, who said, her piece of advice was, I hope I get this right, "Never compare yourself on the inside to what you see on the outside of others." It's the way you feel. It's all about that same thing. Along the way, your career path so far, you've obviously had people influence you. Maybe your parents, the people at your high school. I'm still blown away by four years of computer science, by the way. Who are your role models now? The types of people who have influenced you. Any thoughts on that? Sandy: I was asked the same question at a panel a few weeks ago. My first answer was there's probably two types of people. The first, obviously, would be my parents. My mom was actually an engineer. A funny story, she actually helped me with my computer science classes in college when I had a bug. That's cool. People were like, "Wow. Your mom did that?" I'm like, "Yeah. Totally." Then, facetiously, but I really did mean it were, I called them my stupid goofy friends. Those friends are the one that I mentioned who, also sucked at physics like I did, and also failed that particular test like I did, and had trouble with that problem just like I did. They started companies, and they did it at a time when there was no money going around and the VCs were very wary of startups, given what had happened in the boom. They got funded, and they started a company. They worked really hard, and persevered, and were able to create a company that got somewhere. Them telling me that of course you can do it, like why wouldn't you do that? Or, hey, when I was feeling depressed or really unhappy with my job, because I was thinking, I'm coming out of school and I'm really happy about what I did in school, but now I'm in the working world, and I don't know what I want to do, they're like, "You should just pick something that you're passionate about and actually just go for it." Like there's no reason why you can't. Inspiration comes in many forms, and I think for me personally, the strongest was just the support to say yes, you can do it, and belief in me even when I didn't believe in myself. I think that's extremely important, I think, for anybody to have that kind of support network, because you can be successful and you can be rich, have all sorts of accomplishments in the world, but it's really lonely to celebrate them by yourself. Like to have someone else or a team or friends to celebrate with, and had said, "Oh," you know, "I believed in you from day one, and look what happened," is so much more valuable to me than anything else, so... Larry: All right, now, with all these wonderful things that you've been through, what is the toughest thing that you've experienced in your career? Sandy: Oh, man. [laughs] I probably would say hiring. When you start a company and you get all this money, people actually expect you to do something with it. [laughter] Larry: Yeah. Lucy: That's true. Sandy: You can't just have the money in the bank and be like oh, I got funded, and now it's just sitting there all nice and pretty. You have to build a team, and you're like OK, I'm 20, when I started, maybe I was like, you know, 23, and, you know, you're a 23-year-old who was a sophomore engineer for two and a half years, you've never managed anybody, you've never hired anybody, you've barely interviewed anybody at your old company, and now you have to build a top-notch tech team to support a product that you kind of hobbled together in your spare time and got funded for, and now they're giving you millions of dollars to go and make it big. You're like holy crap, what am I supposed to do with this? The toughest thing was actually figuring out how to hire, how to evaluate people, how to build a culture for the first 12 people in the company, and also getting over the fact that you're interviewing people who have been in the industry for 20 more years than you have, and they're expected to report to you, because you're the founder and you're the boss. So getting over that was huge and very challenging. I think, as you move more towards your career, like it's six years later at Meebo and I've interviewed hundreds of people now, sometimes there's still that little part of you that when you meet someone with a lot more industry experience, you're like, how do I really make you respect me? Because I may not come off as being like the big hotshot, you know, CTO kind of person. That's probably been the toughest, because evaluating other people is actually really, really hard. Lucy: Yeah. That was a very interesting answer. I don't believe we've gotten that answer to this question before. But I think it's very interesting. A plug for an organization we work, Women 2.0...writing a book on certain things like this. Like, hiring or interviewing. I chose the question, "How do you let somebody go?" Larry: Yeah. Lucy: I figured no one would answer that one. [laughter] Lucy: I figured nobody would. But I did it, I wrote it. If you were sitting here giving advice to a young person about entrepreneurship, in addition to some of the advice that we've filtered out of this interview so far around, "Don't make artificial excuses, have confidence in yourself," what are the kinds of things you would say to them? Sandy: One is, to be confident in your own idea. A lot of people have this notion that they have this really cool idea and they're like, "It's really neat, I should really act on it." Then they start to protect it. They baby it, they hide it, they keep it secret, they don't tell anybody. They hide it in the closet and they try to work on it on their own. It seems counter-intuitive but one piece of advice I would give people with ideas, with wanting to start something, is to share the idea as much as you can. Get it out there and get feedback because if you work in a vacuum you're not going to understand how to adapt quickly. I guarantee you, and I've said this many, many times to people, if you have an idea, idea's are never formed in a vacuum, and 20 other people have the same idea and they're already working on it. So, everybody has a different take on an idea, they have a different slant, they have a different perspective, they work on it in a very different way. But the more the idea is out there and the more you can iterate on it the better the idea gets. The more attuned to your audience it can be, whether that be, like I said, an ice-cream store, to a consumer Internet web company, having people give you honest feedback is so critical to creating a really big part. When I tell this to people, they're like, "Really?" I'm like, "Yes. Absolutely. Don't hide the idea." It seems really weird but it's a really good piece of advice that we got early on that helped immensely. Lucy: That's interesting too. Even if you have a good idea and you hide it. You get out there and as soon as you put it out there someone with more money, they're going to do it too, they're going to copy you. Sandy: People are always afraid of people copying them. I'm like, "It's OK." One of the early lessons we had was, if you make five or six changes to your UI, let's say I change the button shape or I move the position of a particular radio button or something like that, there were reasons why I did that. The reasons were for a number of user issues or feedback or A/B tests that we did. So, we moved the button over there. But if someone else went straight ahead and copied those pixels they don't understand why we moved that button. So, they don't get the learnings of why we did that. Without the deeper understandings of the decisions that you make a straight copy can work for a certain period of time but it won't work ultimately. That's the counterargument I give to people who say, "Oh, people will copy me." I say, "Well, generally it's the shallow copy, it's not really deep copy." Larry : Based on all the other things you've said during this interview it should be obvious, but from your perspective what characteristics do you think have given you the advantage of being an entrepreneur? Sandy: Hardworking. You can have as much influence and networking and friends in high places as you can, but if you don't work hard you can't really get there. Also, I didn't have this in the beginning but I think it developed a lot, would be self-confidence, but a sense of humbleness, in a way. Being OK with your decisions and not regretting the decision that you make. But at the same time being open to learning from mistakes, learning from other people who have different opinions and put that into your own system of beliefs. But being able to take a step back and evaluate that from a very non-judgmental perspective is important as well. It's a really long answer but, basically, always listening and asking the right questions, sometimes can be much more powerful than knowing all the answers. Having that perspective as you go from venture to venture or interview to interview is really important. A lot of people that I meet, who I have issues with just working with, like, some entrepreneurs can come off really cocky. I think that's to their detriment, because they may be really smart and really brilliant but if they don't take a step back and think about, "How am I perceived by others? How can I better myself to make other people want to work with me and share knowledge?" I think they're missing that. For me, I've really, really focused on doing that well. That goes into not being just an entrepreneur but as a good manager, as a good leader of the company. I don't have to have all the answers. But as long as I can ask the right questions and get the right issues surfaced, that is extremely effective. Lucy: Really important. This thing around listening and sometimes I say it's around, even, intuitive listening, because when you're listening really well you actually hear things that people didn't say but actually imply. Larry: Yeah. Between the lines. Lucy: Between the lines. There's a lot of value and there's a lot of mischief between the lines. You mentioned, Sandy, about hardworking. Of course, then we all have things we like to do outside of work, I'll put quotes on that. You mentioned your friends and people to celebrate things with. How do you strike that balance there? Sandy: It's really important. In the beginning of Meebo, I was like, "Work, work, work. Work is awesome, Meebo is great." All I would do is work, work, work. Then at a certain point you're like, "Wow, I'm really tired." [laughter] Sandy: The tiredness may not actually come from the lack of enthusiasm or lack of passion for the idea, but you're just physically and mentally very, very tired. If you're really tired you can't be productive. One of the things that I focus really hard in Meebo is work-life balance. I rock-climb, I do yoga, I play Ultimate Frisbee, I run, and those to me are just as important as the work I do at Meebo. So, I have this thing, you work hard play hard, and they're equally important. Because if you don't play hard and balance the "work hard" part you're going to tether one way or the other. Burning out is painful. You see it in an engineer, you see it in people who work all the time. You get cranky, you get demotivated and this spiral that keeps going and feeding on itself. You want the spiral to go the other way. The happier you are and the more balanced you are, the happier, more productive you can be and the more imaginative you can be with the work that you do and you can get more ideas that way. Again, super, super important. I will kick my employees out sometimes from work early and force them on vacation if I have to to get them to have more of that balance. Lucy: It is really important. We heard of some new research, the listeners might find interesting, that there is research that shows, especially in this space, in tech space, and I'm sure it's true in any creative space, that you really can't work longer than eight hours on something without starting to make the crossover mistakes that make it unproductive. Sandy: I can do that. [laughs] Lucy: Yeah. Which is pretty interesting. Larry: Sandy, I love that thought. Yes. Sandy, with all the things you've done, the billions of page views and millions of users and everything, you've already achieved a great deal. What is next for you? Sandy: That's a good question. My personal goal for Meebo has always been, I should be able to go to any city in the world and say the word "Meebo" and people's eyes should light up and they should know exactly what I'm talking about. People are doing that with Facebook a little but they don't do that with Meebo and I'd love for that to happen. Personally, that's self-interesting too. I started out as a software engineer and then you learn how to manage, you learn how to be a leader. Now, as a CTO my role is divided now where I do a lot of internal management. So, team building and hiring and personal development of the people that work for me. But also, the external part of that. So, reaching out to other folks, going to industry events, speaking on panels. As someone who does both, you can't really do both really, really well if you're pulled in two directions. So, I've been learning to really love the external part. This interview, for example, is really fun for me. I really like going to meet young people outside and encouraging them to start their own ventures. I really like mentoring young people, I like going to these entrepreneurial conferences and inspiring young folks. I really love that part and so I'd love to see more of that in my career and my personal development. Obviously, my commitments and my heart is at Meebo. So, trying to find a good balance there is something that I'm trying to do right now, it's a personal goal of mine. To be honest, I don't know what I'll be doing in five or six years. Hopefully, Meebo will be wildly successful and we'll be looking at trillions of page views instead of billions. But once you start your own venture it's hard to go back to work with somebody else. So, either starting something else or seeing where Meebo goes, I don't know. I really don't know. Larry: Well, we're going to track you and follow you. Lucy: Thank you very much for your passion around inspiring more young people to pursue entrepreneurship, technical endeavors, young women to pursue computer science. You're an awesome role model. That's exactly what NCWIT is really trying to do. It's so important. So, thank you for that. Sandy: No worries. This is really fun. Lucy: OK. Well, great. We enjoyed talking to you. I want to remind listeners that they can find this and other interviews at w3w3.com and ncwit.org See you around, Sandy. Sandy: OK. Series: Entrepreneurial HeroesInterviewee: Sandy JenInterview Summary: Meebo’s Co-founder and CTO, Sandy Jen recently discussed gaining the self-assurance to start a new company: “You may not feel as if you are qualified or confident enough…The biggest insight in this entrepreneurial journey of mine was when I realized that someone I knew who was not super smart, who failed same tests I did, had started a company, I realized I could do that too.” Release Date: January 16, 2012Interview Subject: Sandy JenInterviewer(s): Lucy Sanders, Larry NelsonDuration: 24:55

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Seth Sternberg is the co-founder of Meebo, an instant messaging web platform. He speaks about the process of developing Meebo.com and offers advice for entrepreneurs, including how to build a team and acquiring the right funding. Yale Entrepreneurial Institute speaker series: Seth Sternberg, Co-Founder and CEO, Meebo.com. Yale College '01, BA Political Science.

Blogs and Social Networks with Stevie and Stephanie Haile aka Blogheiress and Wavecritter. The Meebo Connection. Chat, Text, Connect, All in One Place! MySpace, Facebook, AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, Jabber, GTalk, and Meebo :) All shows are recorded to listen in anytime :)

Blogs and Social Networks with Stevie and Stephanie Haile aka Blogheiress and Wavecritter. The Meebo Connection. Chat, Text, Connect, All in One Place! MySpace, Facebook, AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, Jabber, GTalk, and Meebo :) All shows are recorded to listen in anytime :)

Meebo is a free, web-based, instant messenger. It makes it possible to aggregate all of your IM buddy lists into one instant messenger, making it possible to talk to all of your friends through one single IM service. Plus, it is also a great tool for libraries in that it allows patrons to interact with the reference desk virtually. This podcast explains the features and benefits of Meebo in more detail.Listen to the Podcast (4:20)[Transcript]

Advice and news from well known entrepreneur and friend Seth J. Sternberg founder of Meebo

Michael Gdovin and Jordan Berman describe the concept of "Cloud Computing" where you keep your data on the internet. Examples include Gmail, and Meebo. (10:14)

Interview with Vincent Everett, HoD at Northgate High School in Dereham about using Nintendo DSs and Meebo to enhance language learning.

Intro: In this podcast we discuss the growing array of online collaboration tools.Mike: Gordon, because I'm in New Jersey and you're in Massachusetts, we've had to rely on online collaboration tools quite a bit. What are some of the tools we use most often?Gordon: If we look just at what we're doing today. We use Skype - the free VoIP client to record these podcasts and we use Google Docs (docs.google.com) to write, edit and share the scripts. In fact, I use Google Docs to collect material and write my blog - ictcenter.blogspot.comMike: Although it's not a new tool, we also use email quite a bit.Gordon: Yes - email is still a very important tool, but more and more we seem to be communicating with other tools such as Twitter and Text Messaging. The iPhone really lends itself to quick communication with email, Tweets, and IM.Mike: Twitter and Google Docs aren't the only options.Gordon: No. in addition to twitter, there are micro-blogging services Jaiku and Pownce, although if you compare the three using Google Trends, we see that Twitter is by far the most popular of the three.Mike: What about Google Docs.Gordon: It's what we use, and probably the most popular, but there are alternatives, including Zoho, Thinkfree and Zimbra. Again Google Trends gives us a nice snapshot.Gordon: There's been some movement with some of these tools.Mike: Yes. Zimbra was purchased in September by Yahoo, and Thinkfree is having some issues with leadership and possibly looking at a change of direction.Gordon: Are there some new online collaboration tools?Mike: Robin Good Online Collaboration Technologies - New Tools And Web Services - Robin Good's Latest News has a great listing of some new online collaboration tools and services. Good also points to Kolabora www.kolabora.com - a great resource for news and information about online collaboration.Gordon: Mike could you give us an overview of the tools Good describes.Mike: Sure - the article describes eight new online collaboration services, including: Tokbox: http://www.tokbox.com/ is a free web-based video conferencing application that enable you to have one-to-one video meetings online. With the service, you create a video room and invite someone for a video conference. You can even embed the conference room on your web-site, or blog. I think this is a great tool for providing technical support, office hours, access to a librarian, or even college counseling.Gordon: What else?Mike: SeeToo: http://www.seetoo.com/ On the surface, SeeToo a free web-based application for sharing videos with friends and family doesn't seem that novel. What makes SeeToo unique is that you don't need to upload your videos - instead you select a video (any size) from your computer, invite others to watch, and click play to start watching together. It's like you're running your own streaming server! SnapYap: http://www.snapyap.com/ Similar to ToKBox a free one-to-one video conferencing room. Create a personal video conference room, invite anyone to join - SnapYap users just enter their username, others get an email with instructions to enter the room.TeamViewer:  http://www.teamviewer.com/ TeamViewer is a free (for personal, non-commercial use) Windows-only application that allows you to share your screen and control someone else's PC. After downloading, you start the program without any installation. You have a code and password you can provide to others to view and control your PC, and similarly, they have a code/password combination they can share with you. Other features include chat and the ability to transfer files. Possible applications include helpdesk/desktop support, application demos, and distance education. FlickIM: http://flick.im/ FlickIM is a free Web-based instant messenger application that allows you to connect to all major IM services (AIM, MSN, Yahoo, GoogleTalk, Jabber, ICQ). Seems very similar to an existing service - meebo. Includes video, audio and other add-ons, as well as an iPhone friendly interface. Meebo has also customized their interface for the iPhone.Loudtalks: http://loudtalks.com/ Is a free, Windows-only download-able application that gives users walkie talkie-like ability to communicate with one another with the touch of a single button(F7). Versions are being developed for other platforms, including mobile phones.AirTalkr: http://airtalkr.com/ Similar to FlickIM, AirTalkr allows you to access multiple IM networks. One major difference is access to Web 2.0 services (Flickr, YouTube, Twitter, and Myspace). AirTalkr is runs within Adobe's AIR (cross-operating system runtime; hybrid web/desktop applications) - Windows and MAC, and also as a web-based application. Looks like the download version doesn't work with the current version of AIR. Here's a screen grab: Global IP Video: http://www.globalipvideo.com/Global IP Video has a free web-based (no downloads, no installs) video conferencing tool MeBeem (http://www.mebeem.com) that uses flash to create video conferences. In a browser, create a room, share it, and click to connect. Not sure how well it works, and seems a little like the wild west. Here are a couple screenshots:

Hey Everyone, As you know, Daniel on Friday December 21st, 2007 went to the meebo offices. Here is the download link to the interview: LINK Daniel also did a YouTube video which is here: LINK Happy Holidays, Daniel Powered by Qumana

本集介紹幾個iPhone 和iPod touch 可以使用的IM client web appMeebo-- http://www.meebo.comBeeJive--http://iphone.beejive.comMundu--http://iphone.mundu.comemail :pigazine[at]gmail.com

  Στο επεισόδιο αυτό παρουσιάζουμε τις μικρές αλλαγές που έγιναν στην ιστοσελίδα, το Meebo και το IMified. Το Meebo μας επιτρέπει να μιλάμε με άμεσα μηνύματα (Instant Messenging) από παντού, αρκεί ένας browser. Το IMified είναι μια διαδικτυακή υπηρεσία έκπληξη, που θα φανεί ιδιαίτερα χρήσιμη σε όσους χρησιμοποιούν μανιωδώς το MSN (ή το ΑΙΜ κ.ο.κ.). Φαντάζομαι ότι θα σας [...]

Audio File:  Download MP3Transcript: An Interview with Elaine Wherry Co-founder, meebo.com Date: June 19, 2007 NCWIT Interview with Elaine Wherry BIO: Elaine Wherry is co-founder of meebo.com and responsible for meebo's product development. meebo provides free web-based instant messaging to all of the major network services and records approximately 1.5 million logons per day. Elaine grew up on a goat farm in southwest Missouri and then migrated west to California where she majored in Symbolic Systems at Stanford University. After graduating, she became the Manager of the Usability & Design team at Synaptics and joined forces with Seth Sternberg and Sandy Jen in 2005 to co-found meebo.com. Lucy Sanders: Hi. This is Lucy Sanders. And I'm the CEO of The National Center for Women in Information Technology. And this is part of a series that we're doing with just outstanding women IT entrepreneurs. Today we are talking to Elaine Wherry, the co‑founder of Meebo.com. Larry Nelson is here with me from w3w3.com. And Larry why don't you say a minute or two about w3w3. Larry Nelson: Well, just quick I have to congratulate you and your team for gathering together some of the top female entrepreneurs in all of America. And it's our honor at w3w3.com just to participate. We're an online Internet radio show. We archive everything. And we just like to share it with the rest of the folks. Lucy: So, Elaine, I have to ask you this question before we get started with the interview. Meebo, what's it mean? Does it mean anything? It's a very cool website by the way. I've been on there looking around. And I just love the fact that you can do all types of instant messaging from the site. And that it's got community around it and people talking to each other. But then I got very curious to if Meebo meant anything. Elaine Wherry: Yes. That's an excellent question. Actually, the name Meebo came about two years prior to our launch in 2005. And so Seth, Sandy and I were at California Pizza Kitchen. And we had been tinkering away on our weeknights and our free weekend just building different types of projects which eventually led to Meebo.com. But around then we realized that we really needed to put a name to our project. And so we sat down and we were looking for two syllable names. We were looking for something that didn't have any higher meaning. And then I had a preference for things that started with M. And one of our greatest limitations was what names were available. So Meebo was available. And our second choice, if it hadn't been Meebo, was Chiba. C‑H‑I‑B‑A. But Meebo was the one that stuck and that we ended up going with. Lucy: So, now Chiba's very cool. I hope you reserved that domain name as well. Elaine: It was already taken. Lucy: Well, Meebo is great. I loved it... Larry: Me too. Lucy: And I noticed that you've got some good vocabulary going there. Meebo me? Meebo.me? Elaine: There's Meebo.com which allows anybody from anywhere, as long as they have a computer terminal, to be able to get web based instant messaging with all of the major networking protocol at anytime. And then Meebo Me allows you to extend that experience beyond just the Meebo.com website. So, you can take a small snippet of embed code and put that on your website or on your blog. And what we've seen is that allows you to be able to communicate with any people who are visiting your site at that time. And so we've seen a lot of people take their Meebo Me and put it... Small businesses love it because then they can see who's visiting their site. And for instance real estate agents, they really like to know, “Hey is there anything I can help you out with?” We've seen librarians really pick it up. And then we actually use it on our jobs page at Meebo.com. So we like to just have an opportunity to just introduce ourselves and give a little bit more information about the job descriptions on our site. Lucy: That's what you need for w3w3.com. Elaine: Radio stations love it. Lucy: Larry. Larry: Well, you're going to have to check us out and let's work out a deal. Lucy: We really could. Well, I think it's a great company. You guys are on a roll. You just had a Series B of Funding. And so congratulations on a great start. Elaine: Oh, thank you so much. Lucy: I think it's also very cool when Walter Mossberg mentions you in the Wall Street Journal. Larry: That's a fact. Elaine: It's a good day. Lucy: That was a good day. Well in talking about the technology, I know you guys are using a lot of cool technology with Ajax and other things. You know that kind of gets us into our first question. How you first got interested in technology and what technologies you think are really cool today. Elaine: Okay. That's a great question. I think personally I think I would probably be considered kind of a late bloomer. I did not get into computer science or into really a scientific field until I entered college. And I think my freshman year I had a calculus course. And I had to buy a graphing calculator. And so when I was on the plane coming back home I found myself trying to program a graphing calculator to do a simple tic‑tac‑toe program and I just couldn't let it go. And I was trying to figure out how to do it. I remember pinging one my friends and asking them how do you try to do randomness? And they're response was, forget the graphing calculator. You really just need to take an introductory computer science course. And I said OK, that's good advice. So winter quarter I enrolled in my first computer science course at Stanford and it went from there. Larry: Wow. Lucy: Wow. And so as you look out in the technology space today. I love technology. I'm quite knowledgeous myself. And I just think there's so many cool things. What things are you seeing that really catch your eye today? Elaine: Yeah. Absolutely. It's an exciting time. I think that one of the things that's happening right now is you see this movement of taking a typical what used to be download applications and all of that, even things like Photoshop‑like applications, are all moving to the web. That was the idea behind Meebo as well. Was how do you take that instant messaging, typically something that's reserved for a client and move that to a browser experience? I think the other thing that's exciting right now is you're seeing a lot of applications revolve around the community experience. And so if you look at things like Wikipedia and a look at Craig's list. All of these products and these experiences, they don't try to define the user experience. They try and put in enough hooks and enough places where the community can contribute to basically evolve their own product. And I think that's incredibly exciting. And I think the third thing that makes this an exciting time to be an entrepreneur is just that the barrier to creating new technology and the cost of just having servers and that. The initial setup it's definitely reduced. And so this is just an exciting time to be able to do prototype. To be able to kind of get out there and look at the open source community and see what tools are already available. Lucy: Absolutely. And I have to say as a side on this. I'm on commission. I'm with the National Academies looking at the IT ecosystem and how it's changing. And all the things you mention are incredibly important trends in the way technology is getting created. Elaine: Absolutely. Larry: You know, I wonder Elaine, if there are many more young women and young girls that are looking into IT and really looking at getting involved. But then you went on to be an entrepreneur. So what is it that drew you to that? Elaine: You know it probably goes back to that late bloomer technology experience that I was talking about when I first came into school. I really hadn't worked that much with computers before. And I think my mother still has her trusty word processor that she prefers much more to her computer that's sitting in a corner. And so when I was approaching computer science for the first time, I was really approaching it with completely fresh eyes. And I remember seeing things that, how to turn on a computer even seemed foreign to me or how to do simple things, like being able to do cut and copy operations right. And there was also this entire jargon around it. And there was just this expectation that you already knew how things worked. And so for me what was really exciting was trying to figure out, after I had gotten over the initial learning curve and deep into C and CQuest Plus coding, was trying to figure out how to make computers and how to make applications be easier for people who were not as familiar with computers. So I think it's probably having been on both sides of being both an office computer science person and also having more experience with it, and just trying to figure out how to create a compelling user experience. Lucy: Moving on in terms of your career and the influences on you in terms of this career path. It sounds like the graphing calculator certainly had a major impact on your journey down the computer science career path. But from a human perspective, you know, who influenced you? Who were your role models? Elaine: Yeah. That's an excellent question. I think that it probably isn't just one single person. I think it really comes down to, for me personally; it comes down to the entrepreneurial spirit that I found within Stanford University. They do a fantastic job in their computer science and their symbolic systems program of exposing students to fellow entrepreneurs in the area and making you feel like everything is possible. Larry: Well, that's fantastic. I bet you've been through quite a few things. But let me just point this out. My wife Pat and I have been married for over 35 years. And we've been in business together all of that time. One of the toughest experiences I had was migrating from my slide rule that my dad gave me to finally getting on to a computer. What is the toughest thing that you had to try to do in developing your career? Elaine: That's a good question. I think people would expect me to say that the toughest thing in my career was probably deciding to leave my previous employer Synaptics, before we had a completely working product. Before we had an audience, before we had investments. But I actually think that my toughest point in my career probably came when I was 18. And when I was 18 I had a full music scholarship at a local university. And I was en route to become, to pursue music, specifically the violin. And so, about two weeks before I was supposed to enter fall quarter, I had this realization that I wasn't entirely sure if that was really what I wanted to do. I had worked very, very hard in high school; and I told my father that I wanted to take a year off. And that was really difficult, because all of my peers were going to the same university. There was definitely a certain path that I was expected to go down. And, just kind of taking a moment to reflect, I realized hey, I'm not entirely sure what I want to be right now. And even though this is the path that is available to me, I really want to spend some more time thinking about that. So I spent a year doing volunteer work, practicing, applying to different conservatories and also applying to different schools, and just getting out into the world and seeing what things were like outside of the experience before I went into university. Lucy: To me, it sounds like an incredible amount of courage. Too often, people don't put their foot on the brake for just a moment and really consider where they're headed and what they're doing. And hats off to you. I think that it probably won't be the last time you do it in your career. Larry: That's right. Elaine: Absolutely. And I have to give credit to my father, who took me seriously that late evening when I came to him and asked if I could do that. Lucy: I think that's great, and I think it just gives you so much more information about which way to head. And speaking of that, we have a lot of people today who asked us about entrepreneurship and if it's a good path for them. What kind of advice would you give them from where you're sitting now, since you're going down the road with entrepreneurship and Meebo? What kinds of things would you say to them? Elaine: I think the first thing would be, it's really hard to be an entrepreneur by yourself. And so I think the first thing that was really important to me was finding good team members, people that you can work beside, when you initially set up on the project. And it's much easier to be able to set deadlines and hold each other accountable if you have another team member besides you. Sammy and Seth are the two best co‑founders that I could ever imagine. And it's just been absolutely fantastic being able to build Meebo beside them. And I think the second thing, after you've found the team members, would be to have built the product and then focus on the business plan second. Just because I think that, often times when you are thinking about the business plan first, you don't necessarily realize all of the value that your product could hold. And it's more important just to get the product out and get it in front of people and get that feedback so you understand how it's going to be used before you start focusing too much on the business aspect of it. And I think the third thing is, after you have a product and it's something that you've initially shown and you have some early adoption, the third thing, once you have the beginning of a business, is to put excellent hiring practices into place. And just to really focus on that early on. Lucy: I have to tell you I'm pumping my fist in the air because, as a computer scientist myself, I totally subscribe to that. I totally subscribe to that. The best products we ever built were the ones where, will I offend listeners if I say where the market plan was kind of done later? Larry: That's good, yeah. Lucy: And they were early prototype. You get them out in front of people. You get the reaction, and you push the technology. Elaine: Exactly. When we initially launched Meebo.com, we really didn't know how many people had similar problems that we did. It all started from Sandy saying that she was having a difficult time being able to do instant messaging from her home and from the library and when she went to visit her friends. And so we initially launched it. And we thought that the initial audience would be people in Internet cafs. And we were wrong. It turned out to be people in the office environment. Lucy: That's right. And all of a sudden you go, whoa! Larry: Whoa‑ho! Lucy: Even better. And in fact, one of my friends today was telling me he uses Meebo and he says, but the IT guys can't catch it! Larry: That's really good. Elaine: Yeah. Actually, it's beginning to reverse itself. Originally, it was something that people would use in order to be able to get around their IT. But now we're finding that a lot of IT people are realizing that it doesn't require download. It doesn't have the viruses associated with it. And so a lot of IT people are now beginning to promote Meebo within their organizations, which is fantastic. Larry: And they should. Lucy: And they should. Larry: And, by the way, I think it's so fantastic that you've got a great team, and the fact that you really honor and respect and appreciate them. That's even better. But I want to go back to you for a second. What would be your one, or two or whatever, personal characteristics that really has given you the advantage of being an entrepreneur? Elaine: I think resourcefulness, just because you have to think about problems from different areas. When you're being an entrepreneur, it probably means that you're solving problems that other people haven't done before. So it's not as easy as plugging your question into Google or into Yahoo! And seeing if anybody has an answer. It's something that you really just have to be able to figure out and kind of really be able to break down problems and think through everything. And I think the second thing kind of is along the same lines, which is perseverance and just not hiring out. And really liking problems and really maintain a passion all the way through. And the third thing is just the respect for teams, just because being able to work beside two other people has been a fantastic experience. And it's really important just to always make sure that the communication is good. Always make sure that you really value what the other people are contributing as well. Lucy: I would probably add one characteristic that I know you have, because it just shows up so much, is passion. Elaine: Oh. Yeah. Lucy: I mean it's just all over everything you're saying and it's so much fun. In terms of you switching a little bit to you balancing your work life and personal life, what kinds of things do you do to bring balance to your days? Elaine: I have to be honest. I really think that probably I'm the worst person of the three of us to ask about the balance between my personal and my professional life. Just because I really enjoy working on Meebo and that's something that definitely extends into my personal life as well. And I think that what does add balance is having a lot of friends in the same space. So, having a lot of people who are doing startups and contributing to startups, who have similar hours, who know where to get all of the pizza places at 11 P.M. on University Street. Just being able to surround yourself with people who are like‑minded really helps. Lucy: Well, and I think the other thing that's really helping, and I think you said it, is what you're working on at Meebo is so well integrated with your passion that that in itself helps bring balance. Elaine: Absolutely. I think that's really true. Lucy: I think it is, too. And actually, I'm a fan of the word integration, as well, in this space. Elaine: Uh‑huh. Larry: She's a really fan of integration. Lucy: Yeah, I'm a real fan of integration. In fact, I've written a blog or two about that. Larry: Isn't that the truth? Elaine: I think it's telling that our original office was my apartment. And so I still have all of the screens and still have the original setup there. So it's just something that's extended into my personal space as well. Lucy: But we also know that you play the violin. Elaine: I do play the violin. I enjoy reading. I enjoy biking. I do a lot of things on the weekends, just to make sure that I have a little bit of contrast to sitting and programming and leading the team. Lucy: Well, and you've also promised to come out here to Colorado to see us and climb Longs Peak. Elaine: That's right, that's right. Larry: There you go. Elaine: Yeah, I did Longs Peak twice when I was in high school, so Colorado is a favorite place of mine. Larry: That's wonderful. Lucy: OK, so we'll count all those things as balance. Larry: That sounds balanced to me. Lucy: The balance to me. Larry: You know, Elaine, at a young age, you have really accomplished a great deal. And I know you are really in the process, knee‑deep, into moving Meebo to a next level and the next level. But, in addition to that, what's next for you? Elaine: That's a good question. I think my first priority...I'm not going to promise. I don't have all the answers. So I think that right now, my immediate focus is just doing whatever I possibly can to make Meebo as successful as it can be. And I think my secondary focus is just making sure that I meet as many excellent, excellent team members and people that I want to work on, work with, so that if there ever is a project beyond Meebo, that I'd be able to continue on there as well. So I think it's really just about meeting other people and surrounding myself with good team players. Lucy: Well, I have no doubt that Meebo is going to be extremely successful. Elaine: Thank you. Lucy: And that you'll go on to lots and lots of extremely cool, fun things. Elaine: Thank you so much. Larry: Well that's a fact. I couldn't agree more. And Lucy was just getting excited hearing the things you were saying. And this is the type of thing that we have to share with many other people, the young people, with their parents. How about them? Lucy: Us old people. Larry: Why did you look at me? Lucy: Haha, sorry. Larry: Well, and by the way, her answer also gave us a very good excuse for calling her back down the road and following up on that. Lucy: Absolutely. So thank you very much, Elaine. This has been really, really fun. And I just wanted to remind listeners where this is hosted. This podcast will be hosted on the NCWIT website, www.ncwit.org, and also on w3w3.com. Larry: You betcha. Lucy: So thanks very much. We really appreciate it. Elaine: Thank you so much. Larry: Thanks Elaine. Series: Entrepreneurial HeroesInterviewee: Elaine WherryInterview Summary: Elaine Wherry is co-founder of meebo.com, which provides free, web-based instant messaging to all of the major network services. Release Date: June 19, 2007Interview Subject: Elaine WherryInterviewer(s): Lucy Sanders, Larry NelsonDuration: 16:42

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