Podcast appearances and mentions of Robin Zander

Welcome back to Snafu w/ Robin Zander.  In this episode, I'm joined by Brian Elliott, former Slack executive and co-founder of Future Forum. We discuss the common mistakes leaders make about AI and why trust and transparency are more crucial than ever. Brian shares lessons from building high-performing teams, what makes good leadership, and how to foster real collaboration. He also reflects on raising values-driven kids, the breakdown of institutional trust, and why purpose matters. We touch on the early research behind Future Forum and what he'd do differently today. Brian will also be joining us live at Responsive Conference 2025, and I'm excited to continue the conversation there. If you haven't gotten your tickets yet, get them here. What Do Most People Get Wrong About AI? (1:53) “Senior leaders sit on polar ends of the spectrum on this stuff. Very, very infrequently, sit in the middle, which is kind of where I find myself too often.”  Robin notes Brian will be co-leading an active session on AI at Responsive Conference with longtime collaborator Helen Kupp. He tees up the conversation by saying Brian holds “a lot of controversial opinions” on AI, not that it's insignificant, but that there's a lot of “idealization.” Brian says most senior leaders fall into one of two camps: Camp A: “Oh my God, this changes everything.” These are the fear-mongers shouting: “If you don't adopt now, your career is over.” Camp B: “This will blow over.” They treat AI as just another productivity fad, like others before it. Brian positions himself somewhere in the middle but is frustrated by both ends of the spectrum. He points out that the loudest voices (Mark Benioff, Andy Jassy, Zuckerberg, Sam Altman) are “arms merchants” – they're pushing AI tools because they've invested billions. These tools are massively expensive to build and run, and unless they displace labor, it's unclear how they generate ROI. believe in AI's potential and  aggressively push adoption inside their companies. So, naturally, these execs have to: But “nothing ever changes that fast,” and both the hype and the dismissal are off-base. Why Playing with AI Matters More Than Training (3:29) AI is materially different from past tech, but what's missing is attention to how adoption happens. “The organizational craft of driving adoption is not about handing out tools. It's all emotional.” Adoption depends on whether people respond with fear or aspiration, not whether they have the software. Frontline managers are key: it's their job to create the time and space for teams to experiment with AI. Brian credits Helen Kupp for being great at facilitating this kind of low-stakes experimentation. Suggests teams should “play with AI tools” in a way totally unrelated to their actual job. Example: take a look at your fridge, list the ingredients you have, and have AI suggest a recipe. “Well, that's a sucky recipe, but it could do that, right?” The point isn't utility,  it's comfort and conversation: What's OK to use AI for? Is it acceptable to draft your self-assessment for performance reviews with AI? Should you tell your boss or hide it? The Purpose of Doing the Thing (5:30) Robin brings up Ezra Klein's podcast in The New York Times, where Ezra asks: “What's the purpose of writing an essay in college?” AI can now do better research than a student, faster and maybe more accurately. But Robin argues that the act of writing is what matters, not just the output. Says: “I'm much better at writing that letter than ChatGPT can ever be, because only Robin Zander can write that letter.” Example: Robin and his partner are in contract on a house and wrote a letter to the seller – the usual “sob story” to win favor. All the writing he's done over the past two years prepared him to write that one letter better. “The utility of doing the thing is not the thing itself – it's what it trains.” Learning How to Learn (6:35) Robin's fascinated by “skills that train skills” – a lifelong theme in both work and athletics. He brings up Josh Waitzkin (from Searching for Bobby Fischer), who went from chess prodigy to big wave surfer to foil board rider. Josh trained his surfing skills by riding a OneWheel through NYC, practicing balance in a different context. Robin is drawn to that kind of transfer learning and “meta-learning” – especially since it's so hard to measure or study. He asks: What might AI be training in us that isn't the thing itself? We don't yet know the cognitive effects of using generative AI daily, but we should be asking. Cognitive Risk vs. Capability Boost (8:00) Brian brings up early research suggesting AI could make us “dumber.” Outsourcing thinking to AI reduces sharpness over time. But also: the “10,000 repetitions” idea still holds weight – doing the thing builds skill. There's a tension between “performance mode” (getting the thing done) and “growth mode” (learning). He relates it to writing: Says he's a decent writer, not a great one, but wants to keep getting better. Has a “quad project” with an editor who helps refine tone and clarity but doesn't do the writing. The setup: he provides 80% drafts, guidelines, tone notes, and past writing samples. The AI/editor cleans things up, but Brian still reviews: “I want that colloquialism back in.” “I want that specific example back in.” “That's clunky, I don't want to keep it.” Writing is iterative, and tools can help, but shouldn't replace his voice. On Em Dashes & Detecting Human Writing (9:30) Robin shares a trick: he used em dashes long before ChatGPT and does them with a space on either side. He says that ChatGPT's em dashes are double-length and don't have spaces. If you want to prove ChatGPT didn't write something, “just add the space.” Brian agrees and jokes that his editors often remove the spaces, but he puts them back in. Reiterates that professional human editors like the ones he works with at Charter and Sloan are still better than AI. Closing the Gap Takes More Than Practice (10:31) Robin references The Gap by Ira Glass, a 2014 video that explores the disconnect between a creator's vision and their current ability to execute on that vision. He highlights Glass's core advice: the only way to close that gap is through consistent repetition – what Glass calls “the reps.” Brian agrees, noting that putting in the reps is exactly what creators must do, even when their output doesn't yet meet their standards. Brian also brings up his recent conversation with Nick Petrie, whose work focuses not only on what causes burnout but also on what actually resolves it. He notes research showing that people stuck in repetitive performance mode – like doctors doing the same task for decades – eventually see a decline in performance. Brian recommends mixing in growth opportunities alongside mastery work. “exploit” mode (doing what you're already good at) and  “explore” mode (trying something new that pushes you) He says doing things that stretch your boundaries builds muscle that strengthens your core skills and breaks stagnation. He emphasizes the value of alternating between  He adds that this applies just as much to personal growth, especially when people begin to question their deeper purpose and ask hard questions like, “Is this all there is to my life or career? Brian observes that stepping back for self-reflection is often necessary, either by choice or because burnout forces a hard stop. He suggests that sustainable performance requires not just consistency but also intentional space for growth, purpose, and honest self-evaluation. Why Taste And Soft Skills Now Matter More Than Ever (12:30) On AI, Brian argues that most people get it wrong. “I do think it's augmentation.” The tools are evolving rapidly, and so are the ways we use them. They view it as a way to speed up work, especially for engineers, but that's missing the bigger picture. Brian stresses that EQ is becoming more important than IQ. Companies still need people with developer mindsets – hypothesis-driven, structured thinkers. But now, communication, empathy, and adaptability are no longer optional; they are critical. “Human communication skills just went from ‘they kind of suck at it but it's okay' to ‘that's not acceptable.'” As AI takes over more specialist tasks, the value of generalists is rising. People who can generate ideas, anticipate consequences, and rally others around a vision will be most valuable. “Tools can handle the specialized knowledge – but only humans can connect it to purpose.” Brian warns that traditional job descriptions and org charts are becoming obsolete. Instead of looking for ways to rush employees into doing more work, “rethink the roles. What can a small group do when aligned around a common purpose?” The future lies in small, aligned teams with shared goals. Vision Is Not a Strategy (15:56) Robin reflects on durable human traits through Steve Jobs' bio by Isaac Walterson. Jobs succeeded not just with tech, but with taste, persuasion, charisma, and vision. “He was less technologist, more storyteller.” They discuss Sam Altman, the subject of Empire of AI. Whether or not the book is fully accurate, Robin argues that Altman's defining trait is deal-making. Robin shares his experience using ChatGPT in real estate. It changed how he researched topics like redwood root systems on foundational structure and mosquito mitigation. Despite the tech, both agree that human connection is more important than ever. “We need humans now more than ever.” Brian references data from Kelly Monahan showing AI power users are highly productive but deeply burned out. 40% more productive than their peers. 88% are completely burnt out. Many don't believe their company's AI strategy, even while using the tools daily. There's a growing disconnect between executive AI hype and on-the-ground experience. But internal tests by top engineers showed only 10% improvement, mostly in simple tasks. “You've got to get into the tools yourself to be fluent on this.” One CTO believed AI would produce 30% efficiency gains. Brian urges leaders to personally engage with the tools before making sweeping decisions. He warns against blindly accepting optimistic vendor promises or trends. Leaders pushing AI without firsthand experience risk overburdening their teams. “You're bringing the Kool-Aid and then you're shoving it down your team's throat.” This results in burnout, not productivity. “You're cranking up the demands. You're cranking up the burnout, too.” “That's not going to lead to what you want either.” If You Want Control, Just Say That (20:47) Robin raises the topic of returning to the office, which has been a long-standing area of interest for him. “I interviewed Joel Gascoyne on stage in 2016… the largest fully distributed company in the world at the time.” He's tracked distributed work since Responsive 2016. Also mentions Shelby Wolpa (ex-Envision), who scaled thousands remotely. Robin notes the shift post-COVID: companies are mandating returns without adjusting for today's realities.” Example: “Intel just did a mandatory 4 days a week return to office… and now people live hours away.” He acknowledges the benefits of in-person collaboration, especially in creative or physical industries. “There is an undeniable utility.”, especially as they met in Robin's Cafe to talk about Responsive, despite a commute, because it was worth it. But he challenges blanket return-to-office mandates, especially when the rationale is unclear. According to Brian, any company uses RTO as a veiled soft layoff tactic. Cites Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy openly stating RTO is meant to encourage attrition. He says policies without clarity are ineffective. “If you quit, I don't have to pay you severance.” Robin notes that the Responsive Manifesto isn't about providing answers but outlining tensions to balance. Before enforcing an RTO policy, leaders should ask: “What problem are we trying to solve – and do we have evidence of it?” Before You Mandate, Check the Data (24:50) Performance data should guide decisions, not executive assumptions. For instance, junior salespeople may benefit from in-person mentorship, but… That may only apply to certain teams, and doesn't justify full mandates. “I've seen situations where productivity has fallen – well-defined productivity.” The decision-making process should be decentralized and nuanced. Different teams have different needs — orgs must avoid one-size-fits-all policies, especially in large, distributed orgs. “Should your CEO be making that decision? Or should your head of sales?” Brian offers a two-part test for leaders to assess their RTO logic: Are you trying to attract and retain the best talent? Are your teams co-located or distributed? If the answer to #1 is yes: People will be less engaged, not more. High performers will quietly leave or disengage while staying. Forcing long commutes will hurt retention and morale. If the answer to #2 is “distributed”: Brian then tells a story about a JPMorgan IT manager who asks Jamie Dimon for flexibility. “It's freaking stupid… it actually made it harder to do their core work.” Instead, teams need to define shared norms and operating agreements. “Teams have to have norms to be effective.” RTO makes even less sense. His team spanned time zones and offices, forcing them into daily hurt collaboration. He argues most RTO mandates are driven by fear and a desire for control. More important than office days are questions like: What hours are we available for meetings? What tools do we use and why? How do we make decisions? Who owns which roles and responsibilities? The Bottom Line: The policy must match the structure. If teams are remote by design, dragging them into an office is counterproductive. How to Be a Leader in Chaotic Times (28:34) “We're living in a more chaotic time than any in my lifetime.” Robin asks how leaders should guide their organizations through uncertainty. He reflects on his early work years during the 2008 crash and the unpredictability he's seen since. Observes current instability like the UCSF and NIH funding and hiring freezes disrupting universities, rising political violence, and murders of public officials from the McKnight Foundation, and more may persist for years without relief. “I was bussing tables for two weeks, quit, became a personal trainer… my old client jumped out a window because he lost his fortune as a banker.” Brian says what's needed now is: Resilience – a mindset of positive realism: acknowledging the issues, while focusing on agency and possibility, and supporting one another. Trust – not just psychological safety, but deep belief in leadership clarity and honesty. His definition of resilience includes: “What options do we have?” “What can we do as a team?” “What's the opportunity in this?” What Builds Trust (and What Breaks It) (31:00) Brian recalls laying off more people than he hired during the dot-com bust – and what helped his team endure: “Here's what we need to do. If you're all in, we'll get through this together.” He believes trust is built when: Leaders communicate clearly and early. They acknowledge difficulty, without sugarcoating. They create clarity about what matters most right now. They involve their team in solutions. He critiques companies that delay communication until they're in PR cleanup mode: Like Target's CEO, who responded to backlash months too late – and with vague platitudes. “Of course, he got backlash,” Brian says. “He wasn't present.” According to him, “Trust isn't just psychological safety. It's also honesty.” Trust Makes Work Faster, Better, and More Fun (34:10) “When trust is there, the work is more fun, and the results are better.” Robin offers a Zander Media story: Longtime collaborator Jonathan Kofahl lives in Austin. Despite being remote, they prep for shoots with 3-minute calls instead of hour-long meetings. The relationship is fast, fluid, and joyful, and the end product reflects that. He explains the ripple effects of trust: Faster workflows Higher-quality output More fun and less burnout Better client experience Fewer miscommunications or dropped balls He also likens it to acrobatics: “If trust isn't there, you land on your head.” Seldom Wrong, Never in Doubt (35:45) “Seldom wrong, never in doubt – that bit me in the butt.” Brian reflects on a toxic early-career mantra: As a young consultant, he was taught to project confidence at all times. It was said that “if you show doubt, you lose credibility,” especially with older clients. Why that backfired: It made him arrogant. It discouraged honest questions or collaborative problem-solving. It modeled bad leadership for others. Brian critiques the startup world's hero culture: Tech glorifies mavericks and contrarians, people who bet against the grain and win. But we rarely see the 95% who bet big and failed, and the survivors become models, often with toxic effects. The real danger: Leaders try to imitate success without understanding the context. Contrarianism becomes a virtue in itself – even when it's wrong. Now, he models something else: “I can point to the mountain, but I don't know the exact path.” Leaders should admit they don't have all the answers. Inviting the team to figure it out together builds alignment and ownership. That's how you lead through uncertainty, by trusting your team to co-create. Slack, Remote Work, and the Birth of Future Forum (37:40) Brian recalls the early days of Future Forum: Slack was deeply office-centric pre-pandemic. He worked 5 days a week in SF, and even interns were expected to show up regularly. Slack's leadership, especially CTO Cal Henderson, was hesitant to go remote, not because they were anti-remote, but because they didn't know how. But when COVID hit, Slack, like everyone else, had to figure out remote work in real time. Brian had long-standing relationships with Slack's internal research team: He pitched Stewart Butterfield (Slack's CEO) on the idea of a think tank, where he was then joined by Helen Kupp and Sheela Subramanian, who became his co-founders in the venture. Thus, Future Forum was born. Christina Janzer, Lucas Puente, and others. Their research was excellent, but mostly internal-facing, used for product and marketing. Brian, self-described as a “data geek,” saw an opportunity: Remote Work Increased Belonging, But Not for Everyone (40:56) In mid-2020, Future Forum launched its first major study. Expected finding: employee belonging would drop due to isolation. Reality: it did, but not equally across all demographics. For Black office workers, a sense of belonging actually increased. Future Forum brought in Dr. Brian Lowery, a Black professor at Stanford, to help interpret the results. Lowery explained: “I'm a Black professor at Stanford. Whatever you think of it as a liberal school, if I have to walk on that campus five days a week and be on and not be Black five days a week, 9 to 5 – it's taxing. It's exhausting. If I can dial in and out of that situation, it's a release.” A Philosophy Disguised as a Playbook (42:00) Brian, Helen, and Sheela co-authored a book that distilled lessons from: Slack's research Hundreds of executive conversations Real-world trials during the remote work shift One editor even commented on how the book is “more like a philosophy book disguised as a playbook.” The key principles are: “Start with what matters to us as an organization. Then ask: What's safe to try?” Policies don't work. Principles do. Norms > mandates. Team-level agreements matter more than companywide rules. Focus on outcomes, not activity.  Train your managers. Clarity, trust, and support start there. Safe-to-try experiments. Iterate fast and test what works for your team. Co-create team norms. Define how decisions get made, what tools get used, and when people are available. What's great with the book is that no matter where you are, this same set of rules still applies.  When Leadership Means Letting Go (43:54) “My job was to model the kind of presence I wanted my team to show.” Robin recalls a defining moment at Robin's Café: Employees were chatting behind the counter while a banana peel sat on the floor, surrounded by dirty dishes. It was a lawsuit waiting to happen. His first impulse was to berate them, a habit from his small business upbringing. But in that moment, he reframed his role. “I'm here to inspire, model, and demonstrate the behavior I want to see.” He realized: Hovering behind the counter = surveillance, not leadership. True leadership = empowering your team to care, even when you're not around. You train your manager to create a culture, not compliance. Brian and Robin agree: Rules only go so far. Teams thrive when they believe in the ‘why' behind the work. Robin draws a link between strong workplace culture and… The global rise of authoritarianism The erosion of trust in institutions If trust makes Zander Media better, and helps VC-backed companies scale — “Why do our political systems seem to be rewarding the exact opposite?” Populism, Charisma & Bullshit (45:20) According to Robin, “We're in a world where trust is in very short supply.” Brian reflects on why authoritarianism is thriving globally: The media is fragmented. Everyone's in different pocket universes. People now get news from YouTube or TikTok, not trusted institutions. Truth is no longer shared, and without shared truth, trust collapses. “Walter Cronkite doesn't exist anymore.” He references Andor, where the character, Mon Mothma, says: People no longer trust journalism, government, universities, science, or even business. Edelman's Trust Barometer dipped for business leaders for the first time in 25 years. CEOs who once declared strong values are now going silent, which damages trust even more. “The death of truth is really the problem that's at work here.” Robin points out: Trump and Elon, both charismatic, populist figures, continue to gain power despite low trust. Why? Because their clarity and simplicity still outperform thoughtful leadership. He also calls Trump a “marketing genius.” Brian's frustration: Case in point: Trump-era officials who spread conspiracy theories now can't walk them back. Populists manufacture distrust, then struggle to govern once in power. He shares a recent example: Result: Their base turned on them. Right-wing pundits (Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino) fanned Jeffrey Epstein conspiracies. But in power, they had to admit: “There's no client list publicly.” Brian then suggests that trust should be rebuilt locally. He points to leaders like Zohran Mamdani (NY): “I may not agree with all his positions, but he can articulate a populist vision that isn't exploitative.” Where Are the Leaders? (51:19) Brian expresses frustration at the silence from people in power: “I'm disappointed, highly disappointed, in the number of leaders in positions of power and authority who could lend their voice to something as basic as: science is real.” He calls for a return to shared facts: “Let's just start with: vaccines do not cause autism. Let's start there.” He draws a line between public health and trust: We've had over a century of scientific evidence backing vaccines But misinformation is eroding communal health Brian clarifies: this isn't about wedge issues like guns or Roe v. Wade The problem is that scientists lack public authority, but CEOs don't CEOs of major institutions could shift the narrative, especially those with massive employee bases. And yet, most say nothing: “They know it's going to bite them… and still, no one's saying it.” He warns: ignoring this will hurt businesses, frontline workers, and society at large. 89 Seconds from Midnight (52:45) Robin brings up the Doomsday Clock: Historically, it was 2–4 minutes to midnight “We are 89 seconds to midnight.” (as of January 2025) This was issued by the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, a symbol of how close humanity is to destroying itself. Despite that, he remains hopeful: “I might be the most energetic person in any room – and yet, I'm a prepper.” Robin shared that: And in a real emergency? You might not make it. He grew up in the wilderness, where ambulances don't arrive, and CPR is a ritual of death. He frequently visits Vieques, an island off Puerto Rico with no hospital, where a car crash likely means you won't survive. As there is a saying there that goes, ‘No Hay Hospital', meaning ‘there is no hospital'. If something serious happens, you're likely a few hours' drive or even a flight away from medical care. That shapes his worldview: “We've forgotten how precious life is in privileged countries.” Despite his joy and optimism, Robin is also: Deeply aware of fragility – of systems, bodies, institutions. Committed to preparation, not paranoia. Focused on teaching resilience, care, and responsibility. How to Raise Men with Heart and Backbone (55:00) Robin asks: “How do you counsel your boys to show up as protectors and earners, especially in a capitalist world, while also taking care of people, especially when we're facing the potential end of humanity in our lifetimes?” Brian responds: His sons are now 25 and 23, and he's incredibly proud of who they're becoming. Credits both parenting and luck but he also acknowledges many friends who've had harder parenting experiences. His sons are: Sharp and thoughtful In healthy relationships Focused on values over achievements Educational path: “They think deeply about what are now called ‘social justice' issues in a very real way.” Example: In 4th grade, their class did a homelessness simulation – replicating the fragmented, frustrating process of accessing services. Preschool at the Jewish Community Center Elementary at a Quaker school in San Francisco He jokes that they needed a Buddhist high school to complete the loop Not religious, but values-based, non-dogmatic education had a real impact That hands-on empathy helped them see systemic problems early on, especially in San Francisco, where it's worse. What Is Actually Enough? (56:54) “We were terrified our kids would take their comfort for granted.” Brian's kids: Lived modestly, but comfortably in San Francisco. Took vacations, had more than he and his wife did growing up. Worried their sons would chase status over substance. But what he taught them instead: Family matters. Friendships matter. Being dependable matters. Not just being good, but being someone others can count on. He also cautioned against: “We too often push kids toward something unattainable, and we act surprised when they burn out in the pursuit of that.” The “gold ring” mentality is like chasing elite schools, careers, and accolades. In sports and academics, he and his wife aimed for balance, not obsession. Brian on Parenting, Purpose, and Perspective (59:15) Brian sees promise in his kids' generation: But also more: Purpose-driven Skeptical of false promises Less obsessed with traditional success markers Yes, they're more stressed and overamped on social media. Gen Z has been labeled just like every generation before: “I'm Gen X. They literally made a movie about us called Slackers.” He believes the best thing we can do is: Model what matters Spend time reflecting: What really does matter? Help the next generation define enough for themselves, earlier than we did. The Real Measure of Success (1:00:07) Brian references Clay Christensen, famed author of The Innovator's Dilemma and How Will You Measure Your Life? Clay's insight: “Success isn't what you thought it was.” Early reunions are full of bravado – titles, accomplishments, money. Later reunions reveal divorce, estrangement, and regret. The longer you go, the more you see: Brian's takeaway: Even for Elon, it might be about Mars. But for most of us, it's not about how many projects we shipped. It's about: Family Friends Presence Meaning “If you can realize that earlier, you give yourself the chance to adjust – and find your way back.” Where to Find Brian (01:02:05) LinkedIn WorkForward.com Newsletter: The Work Forward on Substack “Some weeks it's lame, some weeks it's great. But there's a lot of community and feedback.” And of course, join us at Responsive Conference this September 17-18, 2025. Books Mentioned How Will You Measure Your Life? by Clayton Christensen The Innovator's Dilemma by Clayton Christensen Responsive Manifesto Empire of AI by Karen Hao Podcasts Mentioned The Gap by Ira Glass The Ezra Klein Show Movies Mentioned Andor Slackers Organizations Mentioned: Bulletin of Atomic Scientists McKnight Foundation National Institutes of Health (NIH) Responsive.org University of California, San Francisco

He's jammed with Freddie Mercury after Live Aid, written songs with Beach Boys royalty, and once found himself shooting guns in a backyard with KISS guitarist Ace Frehley…while on Quaaludes. I'm talking about musician, songwriter, and producer Larry Dvoskin. Over the years, Larry has collaborated with legends like Robert Plant, Sammy Hagar, Sean Lennon, Robin Zander, Bad Company, Al Jardine, and MGMT. In this episode, we cover it all—from co-writing “Wish” with Al Jardine, to talking quantum physics with Paul McCartney, to the unreleased David Bowie–Brandy track he's holding onto. He shares the full story behind that surreal Ace Frehley moment and discusses his latest release, “This New Age,” recorded with the band Familiar Faces. We kick off this conversation with a heartfelt look at the legacy of Brian Wilson - and the timeless music of the Beach Boys that continues to inspire generations. Keep up with Larry with the following links: ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠Larry Dvoskin Website⁠ ⁠This New Age- Larry Dvoskin and Familiar Faces⁠ Songs from this episode: The Beach Boys - Don't Worry Baby KISS - Lick It Up Larry Dvoskin - This New Age The Beatles - Yesterday Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven For more information on My Rock Moment and the Host, Amanda Morck: www.myrockmoment.com For more information on upcoming episodes and your regular dose of rock history follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/la_woman_rocks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Xtra Cherries" An aspiring baseball player with a solid fastball, the Illinois-born Chip Znuff put down the glove in favor of the bass and he left home at 17 going west with his punk rock band D-Generation. The D Generation story is told best by Chip himself, so I'll leave that one to him, and I'll cover what happened after that band broke up. Licking his wounds from his first time around on the rock and roll train, Chip formed Enuff Z'Nuff in 1984. Inspired by everyone from The Rasberries to Cheap Trick to Squeeze, Enuff Z'Nuff had pop hearts filled with hooks, but they were marketed as glam metal dudes, which led them into that lane, but it was probably a misrepresentation of the band's real chops. If you listen to the music and and ignore the image, they come across more like a tougher version of Jellyfish. Nevertheless, they made it work; in spite of their image, hits from their debut self-titled album like Fly High Michelle and "New Thing" were catchy blasts of ragged psychedelia that found the band all over MTV. Their follow-up record Strength found them looking decidedly less glam and it garnered rave reviews from Rolling Stone and the Washington Post and they absolutely crushed it on Letterman. Over the course of their career, Enuff Z'Nuff has toured all over the world, been on Howard Stern numerous times, been featured on VH-1, played on the Jenny Jones show, had Little Steven sing their praises as one of the most underrated bands on the planet and have put out close to thirty albums, including greatest hits and live recordings. Although the band has had its share of tragedies, losing members like Derek Frigo and Rickey Parent and its share of personnel changes with singer Donnie Vie stepping away from the band on two separate occasions, Enuff Z'Nuff are survivors. Chip took over vocals in 2014 and the band has never sounded better. Their new album Xtra Cherries has a deep bench, featuring Steve Stevens, Robin Zander of Cheap Trick, Donnie Vie, Gunnar Nelson and Steven Adler, who Chip played with in Adler's Appetite. The album is a refreshing blast of gritty pop that's played with muscle and heart, each track finding the band tearing the cover off the ball. https://enuffznuff.bandcamp.com/album/xtra-cherries https://www.enuffznuff.com/music www.bombshellradio.com (http://www.bombshellradio.com) www.stereoembersmagazine.com (http://www.stereoembersmagazine.com) www.alexgreenbooks.com (http://www.alexgreenbooks.com) Stereo Embers: Email: editor@stereoembersmagazine.com (mailto:editor@stereoembersmagazine.com) BLUESKY + IG: @emberspodcast

In this episode, we speak with Chip Z'Nuff from the legendary band Enuff Z'Nuff to talk about the bands 40 year history and discuss their 21st studio album, Xtra Cherries, which features a list of rock royalty, including Robin Zander, Steve Stevens, Steve Adler, Neal Schon and more!

Ryan Roxie discussed his move from Stockholm to Cape Town, highlighting the cultural and environmental differences. He addressed media sensationalism about South Africa's safety, emphasizing personal experiences. Ryan praised Alice Cooper's non-political approach to rock and roll, citing a 2018 Guardian interview. He shared insights on the music industry, including the challenges of promoting his solo work and the importance of hooks in songs. Ryan also mentioned his podcast, "In the Trenches," and its AI-driven special episode. He reflected on his career, including collaborations with Slash and Cheap Trick, and his admiration for comedians and their truth-telling roles.00:00 - Intro 00:20 - Move From Stockholm to Cape Town 03:23 - Alice Cooper, News & Comedians 05:00 - Metal Sludge, Metal Edge & Hooks 08:45 - Catchy Music & Standing Out 13:10 - Alice Cooper Interruption14:01 - New Roxie Song & Video & Roxie's Voice16:25 - Robin Zander & Liam Gallagher 18:30 - Learning From Alice & Work Ethic 21:45 - GnR, Slash, Cheap Trick, Oasis & More 24:12 - Bands Opening the Door to the Next Band 26:42 - Jackie From Canada and Favorite Song 28:30 - Meeting Famous People & Comedians 31:01 - Traveling & Touring & Seeing New Cities 32:30 - Alice Cooper Sightings 33:25 - In the Trenches Podcast, A.I. Video & Podcasts 36:55 - Having Guests on a Song & Algorithm  39:35 - Jordan Peterson & Eric Weinstein 40:39 - Collaborating & Connections 41:35 - Doing Podcasts 42:42 - Loving Music, New Single & Solo Shows 45:05 - Outro Ryan Roxie website:https://ryanroxie.com/Chuck Shute link tree:https://linktr.ee/chuck_shuteSupport the showThanks for Listening & Shute for the Moon!

Robin Zander is on Celebrity Jobber with Jeff Zito this week. What type of work would Robin Zander be doing if not for being the lead singer and rhythm guitarist for Cheap Trick? Many celebrities will tell you that if not for that one lucky break or meeting, they would be working at the GAP like Kanye West or A Calligrapher like Meghan Markle. Before she was a Suits actress, or hello, a member of the Royal Family. They may have been just a jobber. Thanks for listening. Please rate, review, and subscribe to the Celebrity Jobber with Jeff Zito wherever you pod.

new LA Guns, Robin Zander and Danko Jones plus Tesla, Hanoi Rocks and more! 

Mike Shirinian and Dave Fansler talk Rock & Roll and share their love for Cheap Trick with Marc Kapetan. They also talk about Marc’s new cover band featuring Margot Kim on lead vocals. On the Plate: From Pismo’s Coastal Grill, a Salmon with Dijon Beurre Blanc is served. The meal is paired with Robin Zander's "Surrender" Cabernet. Please Like, Comment and Follow 'The Restaurateurs' on all platforms: --- The Restaurateurs Podcast is available on the KMJNOW app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever else you listen to podcasts. -- The Restaurateurs | Website | Email | - Everything KMJ KMJNOW App | Podcasts | Facebook | X | Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Here's an episode that we originally released on our sister show, Why? but if this isn't Grad School, well, we don't know what is.If you're like us, you need more Cheap Trick in your life. Thankfully, Ross Warner is here with his new book, American Standard: Cheap Trick from the bars to the Budokan and Beyond. It's a look at one of the great American bands and tries to sort fact from fiction. And don't just take us for it- the book is making a lot of year-end best-of lists.American Standard: Cheap Trick from the bars to the Budokan and Beyond is available right now from Backbeat books.

Once in a while, you find a band that just does everything right. Western Massachusetts band THE GLAD MACHINEhas all the right elements, the big hooks, big guitars and the reliable rhythms that make it a joy to discover. The band is helmed by vocalist Brad Thayer with Neal Robinson (Bass), Greg Saulmon (guitar) and Mike Franklin (drums) Tommy Pluta (2nd guitar/vocals). The list of influences is a who's who of power pop; Cheap Trick, The Posies, Jellyfish, and Superdrag.It's been a long time since The Glad Machine's self titled album, but thankfully the quartet from Northampton Massachussets have lost none of their chops. Indeed, there's even more variety on "Hey". The group sound and blend as well as ever and the diversions are interesting and beautifully played.Brad Thayer is still well in Robin Zander territory and the band's default is somewhere between Cheap Trick and Sloan, but the subtleties are more evident on "Hey." Eight songs, eight big choruses, wonderfully produced, "Hey" is an album of songs that rock out, but also two slower affairs that show a very different side of The Glad Machine. The best part is that we have even newer music to look forward to from THE GLAD MACHINE!!! Thanks for listening!!! Please Follow us on Instagram @hiddentracks99Pre and Post roll music brought to you by @sleepcyclespa

If you're like us, you need more Cheap Trick in your life. Thankfully, Ross Warner is here with his new book, American Standard: Cheap Trick from the bars to the Budokan and Beyond. It's a look at one of the great American bands and tries to sort fact from fiction. Ross is a passionate guy when it comes to pop culture, so, of course, we got along like a house on fire.American Standard: Cheap Trick from the bars to the Budokan and Beyond is available right now from Backbeat books.

Send us some Fan Mail? Yes please!Dr. George S. Maurer, Ed.D. grew up in Toms River, New Jersey and currently resides near Temecula, California. He is a retired Air Force Master Sergeant who deployed to Iraq during the Global War on Terrorism. He's an award-winning broadcast journalist with more than 35 years of experience who has interviewed high profile guests such as Sammy Hagar, Pat Benatar, Dan Ackroyd, Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, Robin Zander and many more. Dr. Maurer enjoys RV travel with his fiancé, Adriana. He's a connoisseur of pizza, cheese steak and sub sandwiches and is a die-hard fan of the New York Giants. Dr. Maurer also enjoys California's wine culture.Connect with George: PodMatch & Amazon. . Subscribe, rate us 5, come join in all the other fun we offer, but most of all we hope you enjoy! If you liked this, and want to hear more, give us a follow and let us know! Or maybe you just want to tell us how awful we are? Comments help the algorithm, and we love to see ‘em! And as always, don't kill the messenger. ~Beloved Sponsors~Exotic Fridge Join our DISCORD server!! Whiskey Fund (help support our podcast habit!): PayPalOur Patreon & YouTube Connect with Hermes: Instagram & Twitter Connect with Morpheus: Instagram & Twitter Support the Show.

Jeremy AsbrockHe plays guitar for Ace Frehley AND Gene Simmons in their respective solo bands -- obviously quite the rocket ride for any lifelong KISS fan. Jeremy Asbrock joins us to discuss his band Rock City Machine Co., touring with his childhood idols (and the songs they wouldn't play), his favorite KISS deep cuts, jamming with Robin Zander and how he was secretly “ripped” during Ace Frehley's “Cherry Medicine” video.Created and Produced by Jared Tuten

If there's anything more American than great pop rock, than we don't know it. And if there's anything better than Cheap Trick when you're talking great pop rock, well, you need to get your head examined. And when it comes to Cheap Trick, the second generation of insanely wonderful songwriting is emerging.You know Robin Taylor Zander's dad's work, but wait until you check out Robin. His debut record is a beautiful album, and you know us, we aren't going to lie to you about this sort of thing. So whether you're out by the pool this 4th, or just trying to stay cool, cue up Robin's record and enjoy. You can thank us later.“The Distance” is available to stream now. Check out Robin's website or follow him on Facebook.Your Most Interesting StoryEveryone has at least one fascinating story. We help them tell it. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify

Send us a Text Message.Welcome to artist record your ultimate intimate conversation with your favorite artist…"When you think about rock ‘n' roll, this man *is* rock ‘n' roll. From the grooves to the lyrics, the songs to the anthems, his music defines an era that will never be forgotten. Today, in the hot seat, we have the legendary Ian Hunter. Ian has just released a new album, **'Part Two,'** featuring an incredible lineup of guest artists such as Chris Robinson and Rich Robinson of the Black Crowes, Joe Elliott and Phil Collins of Def Leppard, Robin Zander, Rick Nielsen, and Tom Petersson of Cheap Trick. This album also includes a special tribute to Jeff Beck, featuring recordings with Jeff Beck, Johnny Depp, and Lucinda Williams.We're diving into all of it right now, so don't touch that dial! And don't forget to put your comments down below — we always love to hear from you.Links to order the album are in our description, so make sure you check that out."➜https://amzn.to/3ReuSxc****************************************************"Support your favorite show and channel! Click the link below to donate. Don't forget to include your name for a special shoutout. Thank you!"*MEMBERS ONLY➜https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpDurwXKpDiXuGBdsklxigg/join*MERCH STORE➜https://adika-live.creator-spring.com*PATREON➜ https://www.patreon.com/The_adika_group?fan_landing=*PAYPAL TIP JAR➜ https://www.paypal.me/stephenadika1*AMAZON WISHLIST ➜ https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/30GQNR69L9048?ref_=wl_share* The New Website ➜ https://www.adikalive.com/Theme Song - Mark SlaughterWebsite:  ➜ https://www.markslaughter.com/Support the Show.

Cheap Trick drummer Daxx Nielsen looks back on his musical career and shares his personal and professional insights on the 'In The Trenches' podcast. With an impressive musical background, Daxx talks about his influences, journey in the industry, and drumming techniques, alongside his bandmates Rick Nielsen and Robin Zander. Join us for an exclusive look into the life of Cheap Trick's drummer. Don't miss this exciting episode with Daxx Nielsen! Episode No. 7139 ✔️SET THE REMINDER! Don't forget to Like & Subscribe! For more information about Daxx Nielsen follow his Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/cheaptrickdaxx/ For more information about Cheap Trick follow their Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/cheaptrick/ Cheap Trick - Surrender (from Budokan!) ▶ https://youtu.be/ZbkypX1OhZ0 For more information about Ryan Roxie follow his Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/ryanroxie and In The Trenches visit: https://ryanroxie.com/podcast ***Roxie's Enjoy The Riff*** Watch this space

Tom Petersson is a musician best known as the bassist and co-founder of the iconic rock band Cheap Trick. Born in Rockford, Illinois, Petersson's musical journey began at an early age when he picked up the guitar. However, he later transitioned to bass guitar, a move that would define his signature sound and role in shaping Cheap Trick's distinctive style. In the early 70s, Petersson co-founded Cheap Trick with guitarist Rick Nielsen, drummer Bun E. Carlos, and vocalist Robin Zander. The band quickly gained recognition for their high-energy performances, catchy melodies, and fusion of hard rock, pop, and punk influences. Petersson's melodic basslines became a hallmark of Cheap Trick's sound, adding depth and groove to their music. Throughout his career with Cheap Trick, Petersson has been a key contributor to the band's success, both in the studio and on stage. His innovative bass playing can be heard on many of the band's hit songs, including "Surrender," "I Want You to Want Me," "Dream Police," and "The Flame." In addition to his work with Cheap Trick, Petersson has collaborated with various artists and pursued solo projects. He released a solo album titled "Tom Petersson & Another Language" in 1984, showcasing his versatility as a musician beyond the confines of Cheap Trick's sound. Petersson's influence extends beyond his musical contributions. His distinctive 12-string bass guitar, custom-built by Hamer Guitars, has become iconic in the rock world, inspiring generations of bassists. He is also known for popularizing the use of the 12-string bass in rock music, pushing the boundaries of the instrument and paving the way for its acceptance in mainstream rock. Over the years, Petersson and Cheap Trick have received numerous accolades and awards, including inductions into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2016. Despite lineup changes and the evolving music industry, Petersson remains an integral part of Cheap Trick's enduring legacy, continuing to tour and record with the band, captivating audiences with his dynamic bass playing and infectious stage presence. Tom Petersson's contributions to rock music and his enduring influence on bassists worldwide solidify his status as a legendary figure in the annals of rock history. I hope you will enjoy Tom Peterrson's story. For more information about Tom and Cheap Trick head for the band's website http://www.cheaptrick.com/ or https://watch.countrymusichalloffame.org/videos/tom-petersson-of-cheap-trick-demonstrates-gretsch-white-falcon If you'd like to request a future guest for the show, please get in touch with me through my website https://www.abreathoffreshair.com.au

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El ROCKBUSTERS de esta semana se dedica a una de las grandes voces del rock de las últimas décadas: Robin Zander. Esta semana cumple 71 añitos y nos ha hecho ilusión elaborar un programa especial con todas las canciones suyas o de su banda madre, Cheap Trick. Eso ha hecho que tengamos un programa de 2 horas con 23 grandes canciones. Aquí teneis el listado de temas: 1 - Cheap Trick "Downed" (En el abismo) 2 - Cheap Trick "Everything works if you let it" (Roadie) 3 - Cheap Trick "I must be dreamin'" (Heavy Metal) 4 - Cheap Trick "Gonna raise hell" (Wu Ting) 5 - Cheap Trick "Spring break" (Movida de verano) 6 - Cheap Trick "I'm the man" (Rock & Rule) 7 - Cheap Trick "Up the creek" (Los albóndigas en remojo) 8 - Cheap Trick "Mighty wings" (Top Gun) 9 - Robin Zander "In this country" (Yo, el halcón) 10 - Cheap Trick "Money (that's waht I want)" (El club de los chalados II) 11 - Ann Wilson & Robin Zander "Surrender to me" (Conexión Tequila) 12 - Cheap Trick "Stop that thief" (Another Way: D-Kikan-Joho) 13 - Cheap Trick "You want it" (Un gran amor) 14 - Cheap Trick "Wherever I would be" (Mira quien habla también) 15 - Cheap Trick "I will survive" (Gladiator) 16 - Cheap Trick "Wild thing" (El hombre de California) 17 - Cheap Trick "Ghost town" (La fuerza del cariño, la historia continúa) 18 - Robin Zander & Shudder To Think "American soup" (First love, last rites) 19 - Cheap Trick "Transformers theme" (Transformers: la venganza de los caídos) 20 - Cheap Trick "Just got back" (Niños grandes) 21 - Cheap Trick "Surrender" (Pixels: la película) 22 - Cheap Trick "I want you to want me" (Es la jefa) 23 - Cheap Trick "The flame"

Awesome interview with Robin Taylor Zander, he's the son of Robin Zander. We talk about being a part of Cheap Trick, his influences and his new album "The Distance".

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Robin Taylor Zander talks:-New Solo effort-How he played EVERY instrument on his new album-Did his father Robin Zander give him advice cutting this album-Recording in a 19th century home in Upstate NY-He played every instrument in Cheap Trick at one point-His hat collectionHigh and Low on YouTube 

Robin Taylor Zander joins Ralph Sutton and James Mattern and they discuss Robin Taylor Zander trying to avoid the opinion of nepotism, starting to tour with Cheap Trick in 2017, his relationship with the other kids of the original Cheap Trick members, realizing his dad was different from other dad's, growing up with amazing musicians such as Joe Perry and how he avoided becoming entitled, a live performance of What Am I To Do, Cheap Trick going back to the studio, Robin Taylor Zander's favorite moment performing with Cheap Trick, Robin Taylor Zander's first concert, first drug and first sexual experience and so much more!(Air Date: May 20th, 2023)Support our sponsors!YoKratom.com - Check out Yo Kratom (the home of the $60 kilo) for all your kratom needs!mangorx.com - Use promo code: GAS15 to get 15% off your first order!To advertise your product or service on GaS Digital podcasts please go to TheADSide.comand click on "Advertisers" for more information!The SDR Show merchandise is available at https://podcastmerch.com/collections/the-sdr-showYou can watch The SDR Show LIVE for FREE every Wednesday and Saturday at 9pm ET at GaSDigitalNetwork.com/LIVEOnce you're there you can sign up at GaSDigitalNetwork.com with promo code: SDR for a 7-day FREE trial with access to every SDR show ever recorded! On top of that you'll also have the same access to ALL the shows that GaS Digital Network has to offer!Follow the whole show on social media!Robin Taylor ZanderLink Tree: https://linktr.ee/rtzmusicWebsite: http://robintaylorzander.com/Ralph SuttonTwitter: https://twitter.com/iamralphsuttonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamralphsutton/James L. MatternTwitter: https://twitter.com/jameslmatternInstagram: https://instagram.com/thejamesmatternThe SDR ShowTwitter: https://twitter.com/theSDRshowInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesdrshow/GaS Digital NetworkTwitter: https://twitter.com/gasdigitalInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gasdigital/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dumb Ass News - A fight between brothers included frozen chicken being used as a weapon. (0:00) AJ was barefoot for Stunt or Stupid, for every 5th-grade science question he could not answer he had to snap a toe in a mouse trap. (2:08) Robin Taylor Zander called Chaz and AJ to talk about his latest album, which includes some big producer names from the rock world. Plus, his experience growing up around rock royalty, touring with his father Robin Zander and Cheap Trick. (9:35) Dumb Ass News - How could a woman have been run over by her own car? Plus, the surprising response from police to the accident. (17:40)

On this episode I play show reviews from Lars Lenova and Chuck Speer, talk about the Aerosmith Peace Out tour and more. Music by : Ravagers Ginger Wildheart Cheap Trick Hangmen Listen to all of these bands on Amazon Music and I get a kickback. Donate to the show – Rock and Roll Geek Friends […]

In this episode Phil Lewis returns to the podcast. Phil talks about LA Guns new album Black Diamonds, the virtuosity of Tracii Guns, the grittiness of Ace Von Johnson, the greatness of Johnny Martin, channeling Robert Plant on “Gonna Lose”, his long love for Alice Cooper, Donnie Vie. Rod Stewart, The Faces, the vast differences between recording now and in the 80s, the Cocked and Loaded catering budget, Robin Zander, Cheap Trick, Rammstein, Rival Sons, The Struts, performing acoustic, and a ton more! Thanks for listening, and please share! #podcast #allkillernofiller #phil lewis #LAguns This episode is brought to you by DEB Concerts. Follow DEB on Facebook and Twitter to get updates on upcoming shows, and more! This episode is also brought to you by Med Pharm. Follow their Facebook page and visit medpharmok.com to find out why they are “Cannabis With a Cause.” 30% of profits go towards building no-kill animal shelters in the area. They have a wide selection of products, and they have a doctor on site every Friday and Saturday. Mention Thunder Underground and receive 10% off on your first purchase! This episode is also brought to you by Sunset Tattoo Tulsa. Sunset Tattoo has over 25 years of experience, and is located at 3146 E. 15th St. in Tulsa, OK. They are state licensed and Mother approved! The tattoos are "Done Good and Proper" so be sure to like their facebook page for more details. Become a Thunder Underground #patron on Patreon: www.patreon.com/thunderunderground Stream us anytime everywhere podcasts are heard.

FRIDAY HR 5 Robin Zander lead singer for Cheap Trick calls the Monsters!! K.O.D. - His highness catches up with the official Monsters Photog Jay Vladimir. Monsters BOTW - Clermont Brewing Company - Red Ale

This week LC & Bakko debate Water Parks vs. National Parks. Chris Cornell sings a couple of Ones. Cate Blanchett dismisses metal. Margot Robbie defends it. Bakko takes a cheap shot at Robin Zander. Ground Hog Day comes up for some reason. The Fappening. Ugly Kid Joe tours the US for the 1st time in 27 years. A Metal Fest bans backing tracks. They pay their respects to Van Conner, David Crosby & Jeff Beck. Pantheon Podcasts Reach out to us! Rate, review and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts Join our fanpage on Facebook: (2) Cobras ON Fire: Private Group | Facebook Click like and follow on Facebook: (2) Cobras & Fire: Rock Podcast | Chicago IL | Facebook Follow us on Twitter: Best Hard Rock & Metal Podcast (@CobrasFire) / Twitter Subscribe to our YouTube channel: Cobras & Fire Rock Podcast - YouTube Email us: loosebakko@gmail.com Buy a shirt!:"Cobras and Fire Podcast" T-shirt for Sale by CobrasandFire | Redbubble | cobras and fire t-shirts - cobras fire t-shirts Stitcher: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Stitcher Spreaker: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show | Listen to Podcasts On Demand Free | TuneIn Find it all here: Cobras and Fire Podcast - Comedy Rock Talk Show Music: Blackberry Smoke - Let Me Help You Find The Door Chris Cornell - One Black Stone Cherry - Out Of Pocket The Bronx - Style Over Everything Ugly Kid Joe - Failure Classless Act - This Is For You Screaming Trees - Dollar Bill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week LC & Bakko debate Water Parks vs. National Parks. Chris Cornell sings a couple of Ones. Cate Blanchett dismisses metal. Margot Robbie defends it. Bakko takes a cheap shot at Robin Zander. Groundhog Day comes up for some reason. The Fappening. Ugly Kid Joe tours the US for the 1st time in 27 years. A Metal Fest bans backing tracks. And we pay our respects to Van Conner, David Crosby & Jeff Beck. Pantheon Podcasts Reach out to us! Rate, review and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts Join our fanpage on Facebook: (2) Cobras ON Fire: Private Group | Facebook Click like and follow on Facebook: (2) Cobras & Fire: Rock Podcast | Chicago IL | Facebook Follow us on Twitter: Best Hard Rock & Metal Podcast (@CobrasFire) / Twitter Subscribe to our YouTube channel: Cobras & Fire Rock Podcast - YouTube Email us: loosebakko@gmail.com Buy a shirt!:"Cobras and Fire Podcast" T-shirt for Sale by CobrasandFire | Redbubble | cobras and fire t-shirts - cobras fire t-shirts Stitcher: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Stitcher Spreaker: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show | Listen to Podcasts On Demand Free | TuneIn Find it all here: Cobras and Fire Podcast - Comedy Rock Talk Show Music: Blackberry Smoke - Let Me Help You Find The Door Chris Cornell - One Black Stone Cherry - Out Of Pocket The Bronx - Style Over Everything Ugly Kid Joe - Failure Classless Act - This Is For You Screaming Trees - Dollar Bill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is a special complete episode featuring the great Power Pop band Cheap Trick. The band wore it's 1960's influences openly and you can hear instances of The Move, The Who, The Kinks and especially, The Beatles. They carried the sound and spirit of the 60s into the 70s and beyond. Please feel free to donate or Tip the show at sonictyme@yahoo.comPlease have a look at these special interest sites.If you would, please make a donation of love and hope to St. Jude Children's HospitalMake an impact on the lives of St. Jude kids - St. Jude Children's Research Hospital (stjude.org)Get your Vegan Collagen Gummies from Earth & Elle, available thru Amazon at this link.Amazon.com: Earth & Elle Vegan Collagen Gummies - Non-GMO Biotin Gummies, Vitamin A, E, C - Plant Based Collagen Supplements for Healthier Hair, Skin, Nails - 60 Chews of Orange Flavored Gummies, Made in USA : Health & HouseholdKathy Bushnell Website for Emily Muff bandHome | Kathy Bushnell | Em & MooListen to previous shows at the main webpage at:https://www.buzzsprout.com/1329053Pamela Des Barres Home page for books, autographs, clothing and online writing classes.Pamela Des Barres | The Official Website of the Legendary Groupie and Author (pameladesbarresofficial.com)Listen to more music by Laurie Larson at:Home | Shashké Music and Art (laurielarson.net)View the most amazing paintings by Marijke Koger-Dunham (Formally of the 1960's artists collective, "The Fool").Psychedelic, Visionary and Fantasy Art by Marijke Koger (marijkekogerart.com)For unique Candles have a look at Stardust Lady's Etsy shopWhere art and armor become one where gods are by TwistedByStardust (etsy.com)For your astrological chart reading, contact Astrologer Tisch Aitken at:https://www.facebook.com/AstrologerTisch/Tarot card readings by Kalinda available atThe Mythical Muse | FacebookEmma Bonner-Morgan Facebook music pageThe Music Of Emma Bonner-Morgan | FacebookFor booking Children's parties and character parties in the Los Angeles area contact Kalinda Gray at:https://www.facebook.com/wishingwellparties/I'm listed in Feedspot's "Top 10 Psychedelic Podcasts You Must Follow". 

On the latest Jagbags we talk one of the all-time legendary bands of all time: Rock Hall of Famers Cheap Trick. Are they Top 20 ALL-TIME? A hefty designation, and Beave argues why they belong. We talk their albums, their incendiary live performances (At Budokan, Music for Hangovers), their personnel, their best songs, best cover versions and their colorful personalities. We go through the Beatles' influence on the band, where "At Budokan" ranks as far as all-time live albums are concerned, and much much more! It's a JAM PACKED episode! Tune in now.

Cheap Trick singer Robin Zander says he would be willing to stand in with AC/DC on tour if asked, but on one condition -- Brian Johnson, his neighbor in Florida, would have to give his blessing. Zander tells Rolling Stone: "I wouldn't go there as a slap in the face to him. But if he said, 'Go ahead,' I would do it. And I'd donate the money to somebody. They're AC/DC. People want to hear those songs. Sure, they want to hear them with Brian. But if Brian isn't there, they can get someone else. I don't know what else to say, but I know I'd be heartbroken if something happened to me and I couldn't sing in Cheap Trick." Axl Rose has been rumored for the slot, an idea that doesn't sit well with Zander or his bandmate Rick Nielsen. "I don't know about that. That's weird. Malcolm [Young] left, and if he was still there this wouldn't be happening, I don't think. We love Angus [Young] and all that stuff and Brian's my neighbor for god's sake and I'm afraid to walk over and say hello. To see this happen is sort of like a death in the family."

Cheap Trick singer Robin Zander says he would be willing to stand in with AC/DC on tour if asked, but on one condition -- Brian Johnson, his neighbor in Florida, would have to give his blessing. Zander tells Rolling Stone: "I wouldn't go there as a slap in the face to him. But if he said, 'Go ahead,' I would do it. And I'd donate the money to somebody. They're AC/DC. People want to hear those songs. Sure, they want to hear them with Brian. But if Brian isn't there, they can get someone else. I don't know what else to say, but I know I'd be heartbroken if something happened to me and I couldn't sing in Cheap Trick." Axl Rose has been rumored for the slot, an idea that doesn't sit well with Zander or his bandmate Rick Nielsen. "I don't know about that. That's weird. Malcolm [Young] left, and if he was still there this wouldn't be happening, I don't think. We love Angus [Young] and all that stuff and Brian's my neighbor for god's sake and I'm afraid to walk over and say hello. To see this happen is sort of like a death in the family."

Pat welcomes author Brian "BJ" Kramp to the Zoom Room to discuss his fantastic new Cheap Trick book "This Band Has No Past." This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ROCKSOLID and get on your way to being your best self.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of Redefining HR, I'm joined by Zander Media's founder and CEO, Robin Zander. We discuss his career path, creativity and digital storytelling, and his work in video production at Zander Media. We also talk about his new documentary, “Parenthood @ Home.”

BJ wrote a book, published by Jawbone Press and available now:https://www.amazon.com/This-Band-Has-No-Past/dp/1911036874For this episode BJ covers some of the podcasts he has been on to promote the book, along with some of the reviews that have come out, then interviews Trouser Press editor Ira Robbins, who shares his thoughts on the book, and also some insights and stories relating to Cheap Trick. Also included is a recording of a casual conversation between Howie Klein and Rick Nielsen and Robin Zander from March 1977.

This week we invite Mike Floros from Love In Chains and SteelCity as well as fellow podcast host Kevin Williams from Inobscuria podcast to join us in another fun rocked out version of Scattergories. Join host Sonny Pooni as he leads the other 3 fools down the path of craziness. WE NEED YOUR HELP!! It's quick, easy, and free - Please consider doing one or all of the following to help grow our audience: Leave Us A Five Star Review in one of the following places: Apple Podcast Podchaser Connect with us  Email us growinuprock@gmail.com Contact Form  Like and Follow Us on FaceBook Follow Us on Twitter Leave Us A Review On Podchaser Join The Growin' Up Rock Loud Minority Facebook Group Do You Spotify? Then Follow us and Give Our Playlist a listen. We update it regularly with kick ass rock n roll Spotify Playlist Buy and Support Music From The Artist We Discuss On This Episode Growin' Up Rock Amazon Store Love In Chains Website Inobscuria Podcast Website Music in this Episode Provided by the Following: Love In Chains, Iron Maiden, Steelheart, Warrant, Steve Stevens, Robin Zander, Billy Sheehan, Matt Sorum, Kevin Dubrow, Tony Franklin, Frank Banali Crank It Up New Music Spotlight Love In Chains If you dig what you are hearing, go pick up the album or some merch., and support these artists. A Special THANK YOU to Restrayned for the Killer Show Intro and transition music!! Restrayned Website

This episode features an interview with author, acrobat and entrepreneur Robin Zander as he discusses the importance of bravery and courage and the impact that the COVID-19 pandemic has had on various marginalized communities. Robin discusses what he learned from creating a video where he returned to his middle school and how the painful experiences in his past have made him the leader that he is today. He also reveals the work that he is doing to develop his voice and how taking singing lessons is helping him embrace his fears. 

Hello and welcome back to the Robin Zander show! Today's guest is Merritt Quisumbing Anderson, an employment attorney, former Head of People at Github, a mother of 3, and founder of Merritt+ Consulting. Merritt also happens to be an adviser to Zander Media, and my dear friend. In this episode, we cover Merritt's history, ranging from her experience as a child of immigrants to how she has built a career advocating for employees, as well as the organizations, she works with. Whether you are building a company or contributing to a company's culture, Merritt's experience across multiple industries has tactics and stories you can use. Learn more at www.robinpzander.com

Series 2 kicks off Monday with Tim Farriss from INXS in one of his most honest interviews ever. This is a chance to go back and celebrate the last 23 episodes of Series 1 of The Rider with Becko. If you use Spotify, you can hear a "with music" version, and get the stories behind the artists. Remember you can catch-up anytime on any of the interviews on whatever platform you choose and leave a rating if you have time - it all helps!! Series 1 included chats with: Andrew Farriss from INXS Ben Lee Nic Cester from Jet Andrew Stockdale from Wolfmother Dave Gleeson from the Screaming Jets and The Angels Mark Gable from The Choirboys Fifa Riccobono from Alberts Music Tim Rogers from You Am I Novak from Polish Club The Legendary Michael Chugg Rob Hirst & Peter Garrett from Midnight Oil Gavin Rossdale from Bush Rick Nielsen & Robin Zander from Cheap Trick Eric Kretz from Stone Temple Pilots Todd Kerns from Slash, Myles Kennedy and The Conspirators Brandon Boyd from Incubus Tim Freedman from The Whitlams Dave Faulkner from The Hoodoo Gurus Shane Nicholson Taylor Hanson

Chuck Wright is a bass guitarist who has played with Quiet Riot, Alice Cooper, Giuffria and many others. He has a new solo album out now titled “Sheltering Sky” that features a long list of stellar musicians including Jeff Scott Soto, Scotti Hill, Troy Lucketta, and Derek Sherinian. We discuss all this in the interview plus Axl Rose in the bathroom, Robin Zander in a bowling alley, music royalties, social media and more! 0:00:00 - Intro0:00:37 - Facial Hair & Style 0:02:28 - Military School & Rock n Roll 0:04:18 - Jack Bruce's Bass & Memorabilia0:05:45 - Developing Artists & Music Scene0:07:47 - Axl Rose & Guns 'n Roses 0:11:45 - Alice Cooper & Spinal Tap Moments 0:15:30 - Slash & Guitar Feel vs Technicality 0:18:17 - Chuck's New Solo Album 0:22:20 - Throwin' Stones & Negativity 0:26:34 - Jam Night at the Whisky & Robin Zander 0:31:15 - Social Media Use 0:33:32 - The Other Side & Frankie Banali 0:36:00 - Giving Up The Ghost 0:37:00 - Farewell Horizon 0:38:25 - Writing Lyrics 0:40:50 - Cradle of The Sun 0:42:46 - Performing Live 0:46:05 - Current Projects 0:48:02 - Quiet Riot & The Simpsons 0:50:20 - Two Different Quiet Riots 0:52:19 - Background Vocals & Michael Anthony 0:53:15 - Ted Nugent 0:54:40 - No Picks 0:57:10 - Song Royalties  1:00:03 - New Album 1:02:05 - World Central Kitchen 1:03:55 - Outro Chuck Wright website:https://www.chuckwright.comWorld Central Kitchen website:https://wck.orgChuck Shute website:http://chuckshute.comSupport the show

This is a chance to go back and celebrate the last 23 episodes of Series 1 of The Rider with Becko. If you use Spotify, you can hear a "with music" version, and get the stories behind the artists. Remember you can catch-up anytime on any of the interviews on whatever platform you choose and leave a rating if you have time - it all helps!! Series 1 included chats with: Andrew Farriss from INXS Ben Lee Nic Cester from Jet Andrew Stockdale from Wolfmother Dave Gleeson from the Screaming Jets and The Angels Mark Gable from The Choirboys Fifa Riccobono from Alberts Music Tim Rogers from You Am I Novak from Polish Club The Legendary Michael Chugg Rob Hirst & Peter Garrett from Midnight Oil Gavin Rossdale from Bush Rick Nielsen & Robin Zander from Cheap Trick Eric Kretz from Stone Temple Pilots Todd Kerns from Slash, Myles Kennedy and The Conspirators Brandon Boyd from Incubus Tim Freedman from The Whitlams Dave Faulkner from The Hoodoo Gurus Shane Nicholson Taylor Hanson

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We are so excited to have international bands back on tour with Under The Southern Stars kicking off last week. The band, Cheap Trick weren't an overnight success. They relentlessly toured warehouse parties and taverns until they were signed to a major label - funnily enough, discovered playing at a bowling alley! The first 2 albums weren't a huge success either, but after a 'Beatlemania like' trip to Japan and the release of 'Live at Budokan' it all just happened! That lead to 'Surrender' and 'Dream Police' and worldwide attention. As part of Under the Southern Stars, they are coming back to Australia and a lot has changed! UTSS was revolutionary, trying to bring international bands to Australia while we were cut off from the world during covid. The solution was, they all stay at a resort together for two weeks in quarantine. It would have been wild! Luckily it hasn't come to that, and it's on until March 27 in Brisbane. (Make sure you catch up on the chat with Gavin Rossdale from Bush and Eric Kretz from Stone Temple Pilots) This is Robin Zander from Cheap Trick, on The Rider with Becko and.... bonus, Rusty from Electric Mary

Stone Temple Pilots are one of the great bands to come out of the 90s. Out of San Diego, the original lineup was Scott Weiland, Dean DeLeo, Robert DeLeo and of course Eric Kretz on drums. Their insane debut album Core blew us all away in '92 and somehow this band found their place while the market was crowded with other bands at the time, like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden and Porno for Pyros. The album Purple came soon after in '94 and that confirmed they were onto something special. One thing they couldn't control was their relationship with Scott, who joined Velvet Revolver after the band took a break / broke up in 2002. They eventually reconciled and recorded more music only to have him sacked in 2013 and then the gifted lead singer passed away in 2015. They are back to prove they can carry on with a brand new lead singer, Jeff Gutt and recently released a new acoustic album. As part of Under the Southern Stars, they are coming back to Australia. UTSS was revolutionary, trying to bring international bands to Australia while we were cut off from the world during covid. The solution was, they all stay at a resort together for two weeks in quarantine. It would have been wild! Luckily it hasn't come to that, and it all kicks off March 11 - 27. Still to come next week, the iconic Robin Zander, the lead singer of Cheap Trick. (and make sure you catch up on the chat with Gavin Rossdale from Bush and Rick Neilsen) This is Eric Kretz from Stone Temple Pilots, on The Rider with Becko

Legendary rock scribe David Wild joins Matt and Jeff to discuss Ringo Starr's Time Takes Time on the brink of the album's 30th anniversary. But that's not all -- David came armed with audio from Ringo Starr and additional audio of a conversation he had with Don Was to revisit Don's experience as one of the producers on Time Takes Time.While David's wife just wants him to listen to more Rick Springfield (that's our flimsy tease for one of the subjects of this episode), we somehow convinced him to tell us about working with Ringo on the new book, Lifted. The book is available now in two different editions, with profits benefiting The Lotus Foundation charity.David has also teamed up with Phil Rosenthal (Everybody Loves Raymond) for the forthcoming podcast, Naked Lunch. He shares plenty of details on that exciting endeavor as well.No worries, he tells plenty of rock and roll war stories also. We had so much fun chatting with David and we're already plotting to get him back.Join the Record Club for additional content related to all of our episodes, including this one. We appreciate your support.Show Notes:David's famous experience trying to interview Van Morrison  David's Bob Dylan storyBob Dylan's Hearts of Fire movie ​​ Ringo Starr - Time Takes Time EPKDavid's experience working on Ringo Starr's new book, Lifted.Ringo Starr on Jimmy KimmelDavid spoke with Don Was for this episodeDavid's Flowers in the Dirt storyPaul McCartney - “Figure of Eight”Paul McCartney - “Distractions”Ringo Starr - “Weight of the World”The Ringo audioRingo Starr - Don't Go Where The Road Don't GoPaul McCartney - “1985”David's Paul McCartney Grammy storyRingo Starr - “Don't Know a Thing About Love”Ringo Starr - “Golden Blunders”Ringo Starr - “In a Heartbeat”Mickey Thomas and Robin Zander are, in fact, awesome.Matt's defense of “We Built This City” Starship - “Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now”Mickey Thomas - Alive AloneElvin Bishop - “Fooled Around and Fell in Love”Jeff's UCR article regarding Jefferson Starship and Starship  David Wild's 1992 Rolling Stone profile on Time Takes Time  Ringo's Old Wave album David's new podcast with Phil RosenthalDavid's appearance on Jimmy Pardo's Never Not Funny 

Adam Hamilton was raised in Shreveport, Louisiana, and began playing drums at the age of three. As a child, Hamilton began aspiring to a professional music career through listening to both his father's records and to the music on the radio. While attending Captain Shreve High school, he experimented heavily with production and engineering and produced demos for local bands in Shreveport. After graduating from high school in 1988, Hamilton moved to Dallas, Texas, and then to Austin to pursue music.While Hamilton was performing at a club in Austin, he met Poison guitarist C.C. DeVille, who invited Hamilton to move to Los Angeles. Hamilton lived in DeVille's home for a time, and played drums in DeVille's post-Poison band The C.C. DeVille Experiment. Other members of this band included Joey C. Jones of 1980s glam metal band Sweet Savage, and Christopher Torak of Liquor Sweet. During the time they were together, The C.C. DeVille Experiment also went by the name The C.C. DeVille Experience. The band, minus DeVille, ended up leaving Los Angeles, relocating to Dallas and Shreveport, and renaming themselves Joey C. Jones and the Glory Hounds, with Hamilton's hometown friend Craig Bradford replacing DeVille on guitar. Joey C. Jones and the Glory Hounds released one self-titled album on Tony Nicole Tony (TNT) Records in 1993; the album featured songs written by C.C. DeVille and by Robin Zander and Rick Nielsen of Cheap Trick.His production work includes many titles released by Cleopatra Records, including albums by Leif Garrett, Dale Bozzio of Missing Persons, Vanilla Ice, and George Lynch. Hamilton also produces and writes music for television, and his work has appeared on Family Guy, The Simpsons, The Osbournes, Six Feet Under, Saturday Night Live, Numb3rs, Gene Simmons Family Jewels, Bones, America's Got Talent, and many others.

Robin Zander is a perpetual founder, creator of Zander Media and Responsive.org. YouTube: https://youtu.be/yCskspsQ788 We jump in and Zander helps set the stage with where he's come from, his history, and what drives him. All with a common point of creating great places to work (sound familiar?). Movement away from Hierarchy towards distributed ways of working. Away from top down control and towards people enacting change. Away from privacy and more towards transparency. Building a great culture. How do you make such a big change to a culture or structure when you're in the middle? You can't. Or maybe there are areas of influence that you start to initiate change. How can you give away your power? Flip the power structure on its head. Maybe approach it as an org within an org. The future of work? How does the rate of change play into it? The ability to respond to change. Not just systems but teams, skills, etc. Change is only going to accelerate. Is a business a Family or a Sports Team? For Zander it's a sports team that he hopes to be playing with for a really long time. He is a leader in service of his team and employees. The future of work really is whatever the organization wants to make it. So how about incentive structures that are out there in particular the difference between public vs. private companies. Probably a little bit beyond his pay grade but Zander certainly recognizes the tension of those incentives and how they affect decision making. Can you really be a responsive organization without continuous learning? No. Hard no. Growing as an individual is how the organization grows. An organization is just a collection of individuals.

This is Day 20 of The Dog Days of Podcasting. I attempt to do a show a day for the month of August. Friend of the show and friend of mine, Michael Street , calls in with a Brush With A Rockstar and I do a track by track review of the new record by […]

Former Spin Magazine editor, world's biggest Cheap Trick fan, and author Doug Brod joins us to discuss his amazing new book, They Just Seem a Little Weird: How Kiss, Cheap Trick, Aerosmith and Starz Remade Rock and Roll. Crucial matters discussed inlude: conflicted feelings over Kiss playing without our beloved Ace Frehley; our mutual devotion to Cheap Trick; how CT bassist Tom Petersson's replacement looked a hell of a lot like Tom Petersson; the profound unlikelihood of Aerosmith's second act in the 90s; why Starz is an important band; and much more.